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Donald Trump is pissed off. He's not happy. This afternoon after multiple court losses across the country in front of the United States Supreme Court, he missed a deadline, a key deadline he missed his team missed to ask for a rehearing the birthright citizenship case. He desperately wanted a rehearing in the birthright citizenship case. All for not. It will not happen in the reflecting poll cases. More charges are being dropped as we speak because there is no evidence of vandalism at all. And I speak with Ivy Meirpol, who is the director behind the documentary that is enraging the White House. Eugene Ask E. Jean documentary about the fact that Donald Trump abused E. Jean Carroll and then proceeded to defame Eugene Carroll. You're not going to want to miss that conversation. As always, hit that subscribe button. Get us to a million subscribers like Comment Share. Get the word out. The big news right now. Well, the Trump team missed a key deadline. This is an official order issued by the United States Supreme Court in President Donald J. Trump versus Barbara. This is the birthright citizenship case. This order was handed down. And, well, it says June 30, 2026. That is the date that the Supreme Court entered the order opinion published the opinion whereby it said that birthright citizenship is and will remain the law of the land, overturning Donald Trump's executive order that would have gutted birthright citizenship. Now, the United States Supreme Court, if you know anything about it, it takes about 32 days to publish an order officially. So that 32 days ran yesterday. We now have the order today. And, well, the reason why it takes 32 days is because a party, a litigant in front of the United States Supreme Court has 25 days, 25 days to essentially ask for a rehearing by the justices. It's very uncommon, if not almost impossible, to get a rehearing by the justices. Because to get a rehearing, you'd have to provide something new. You'd have to show the justices, hey, there is a reason why you should hold another hearing on this, why you should reconsider the merits of this case. Here's new evidence or here's new case law or whatnot. This hasn't happened. And it's very abnormal for the Supreme Court to ever consider a rehearing. But Trump demanded it on multiple times. He demanded a rehearing. He said that there needs to be a rehearing, that the justices need to reconsider it. He was furious over the fact that his birthright citizenship executive order was struck down. Well, they had 25 days to ask for that rehearing. They missed the deadline. They didn't ask for the rehearing. And while that's almost certainly going to upset the president. So Trump versus Barbara. The birthright citizenship case is officially the law of the land. Nothing can change it. There will be no rehearing. It will not change. Birthright citizenship is and always will be the law of the land. It also comes as more cases are being dropped by, by Jeanine Pirro, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, over Donald Trump's objection concerning the reflecting pool. As you know, the reflecting pool liner, Trump says there was vandals. It was vandalized. Jeanine Pirro in court saying otherwise. In fact, in fact, more cases have been dropped. Three more cases have now been dropped by Jeanine Pirro's office saying that there simply is not evidence of vandalism, that people did not vandalize the reflecting pool. Instead, it was due to a shoddy job by the contractor that was handed a no bid contract by this administration. That pool guy who owns, what is it, something like Green Water Solutions? Well, the water ended up being green. And I spoke with Ivy Meirpool, who was director behind Ask eg, the documentary filled about E. Jean Carroll that is making major waves right now because it tracks E. Jean Carroll's case on all the way up to the United States Supreme Court. And as we know, E. Jean Carroll won over $80 million in total, but won in front of the United States Supreme Court recently as the court rejected Trump's appeal. Now, before we get to my conversation with Ivey, I do just want to quickly note that we do have a sponsor for this video. It's Chapter. I've worked with Chapter before. I want to remind you that I work with them right now. And the reason why I work with them is because right now health care is too damn expensive. And oftentimes people are on the wrong Medicare plan. Medicare plans change every year. What your options are, what you're paying now, what's covered now, it may not be what it was when you signed up and you'd never know unless actually. Unless someone actually took a look. That's why I work with Chapter. They're independent Medicare advisors, the only ones that compare every plan nationwide. They don't get paid to push certain plans. Their advisors are salary, they look at your doctors, your prescriptions, what matters to you, and they tell you the truth. If you're on the right plan, they'll tell you. If you're on the wrong plan, they'll Help you switch. It's free. Help in under 20 minutes. Call Chapter today. 8645-3806-6486-4538, 0664. Here's my conversation with Ivy. Excited today to be joined by Ivy Meirpol, who is the director of Ask E. Jean, a new film about E. Jean Carroll's story. Ivy, so great to be here. I want to kick it off by asking you one question. How's the film doing?
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You know, it's been going gangbusters, really. We're going across the country to theaters. You know, we are operating on a shoestring budget to get it out. We don't have a studio supporting this rollout, but we have many kind of individuals supporting this. And we have a, we have a company called Abramorama who is getting it out into theaters. That's the only way you can see the film right now. Independent art house theaters. And we're just doing everything we can to get it out as far and wide as possible against all odds.
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What do people need to know about this film and about E. Jean Carroll? What did you learn about her when making this film?
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I mean, I learned what an incredible, indomitable person she is and that her eccentricity and her kind of, she's such a strong person that she actually, you know, forged a path in the 90s for herself in the male dominated world of magazine writing and was a gonzo journalist on par with Hunter S. Thompson. Yet all of that and her success as an advice columnist did not protect her from the predations of men as we discuss in the film. And that is something she did not really come to terms with until she was 75 years old. And, and what I discovered was that she was inspired by the young women of the MeToo movement and the act of journalism that brought those stories to light. As a journalist herself, that was incredibly moving to her. I learned that at age 75, if you have a story that traumatized you, if you have something that happened that traumatized you and you didn't understand it or didn't even want to grapple with it as Eugene did, because that she's a member of the silent generation, that you can still change your, how you, you can still reckon with your past and the advice she gave other women and which was the advice which was what she was following herself. She was not quite in touch with how to care for herself. And I think so many women can relate to this. So that's a long winded way of saying, like, she is an Incredibly rich. She has just incredibly rich story. And you have to understand who she was and what she accomplished when she was a young journalist making her way in New York City to understand how she could have been the one to take Donald Trump all the way.
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Well, take us through the film a little bit more. Where does the film start? Where does it take us? How does it end? If someone has never watched it, what do they, what should they expect?
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Sure. Well, I mean, what you're, what you're going to expect, and I, and I like to say this when I'm introducing the film as well, is I know people kind of are, prepare themselves if they know a little bit about the film. They're going to hear some pretty tough material and it's going to be, it's, and it's, and it's graphic and it's painful. And you're going to witness Eugene going through it almost in real time, you know, understanding what had really happened to her. So that's the painful part. But it's also really fun and hilarious story and exciting and inspiring. So what you're going to, you're going to see her in her video depositions being deposed for these two trials, two lawsuits where she took Donald Trump. And that's a very unusual experience for audiences to get to witness something like that. So you get to see that, but you also are going to see this incredible time in New York City. It's really an ode to this period of time in New York City as well, where the magazine Life and magazine world was booming and serious writers were writing long reported pieces just as Eugene was doing. So you're going to find, you're going to be surprised. And then on top of it, we have footage of Eugene with her own advice show that Roger Ailes gave her in the mid-90s in his, and it was his first network called America's Talking. And so I think what, what, what audiences are going to experience is something like they, they have no idea having just maybe met Eugene on CNN maybe, or being, you know, defamed by Donald Trump and being, you know, that you're going to see something, you're, you're not going to go get through this film without completely believing Eugene but also being inspired by her.
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Was there a ever a moment during this entire process where you thought, I don't know that we'll be able to produce this film?
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Oh, yeah, numerous times. I mean, Aaron, this film took six years in the making and I made another film in between because it was taking so long. And, and you Know I was having to deal with an ongoing litigation and that's not, that's. It's a sensitive time to be having a film film crew around. And so I understood that completely. And so we were shut down numerous occasions and rightly so. Robbie Kaplan was quite protective of her client and wanted to make sure that we weren't doing anything to interfere with that process. So that was one aspect. The other aspect was we couldn't find, we couldn't raise the money. People really didn't. We were having a hard time finding a way to support this. We could not get a major streamer on board though. We still don't have a major streamer on board but slowly but surely we have some well heeled individuals who have the money, donated money, brought equity investment. But then he was elected again and here we are, we were trying to finish the film and the shock of him being elected again did scare off some people who were supporting the film. To take their names off it put had a chilling effect on all of us really. But also on the flip side then it kind of fires you up even more to say this is a film that people do not want you to see. So we're going to make sure you see it.
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How did Eugene, to the extent that, you know, react after winning each of the trials?
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Oh boy. Well, you know, I think the first one she really was, it was so much energy and effort, you know, going into and that she really shut down for about a week. I will tell you. I don't think she'd mind me telling you that she treated herself. She ate like an entire cake. And that's the kind of thing Eugene does to treat herself. She's not, you know, an extravagant person. She, I mean she literally, she likes. And she, I said what kind of cake was it? She oh, you know, just like a shoprite sheet cake. She, that's what she liked. Just very basic like just straight sugar to the. But she indulged, she treated herself and then she gets right back to work because if you remember she wrote a book called Not My Type. That title and it became came out, you know, she wrote it in within one year after the first trial. So she, she is someone who puts her head down and keeps working. But she, she took a little time to celebrate. Now, I mean it's been, I mean the 83 million I think was the shock. And you see in the film, her having her, she says I have to get back to my human beingness. I mean what. How does someone become someone who wins 83 million. It just seems impossible now. Of course, she hasn't gotten that part of the money. We'll know that you're not yet. Yeah,
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yeah. No. And before I let you go, you mentioned that a lot of people don't want this film ever being aired, people seeing it. If someone wanted to go watch this film, where can they watch it? If someone wanted to stream the film, how can they stream it? How can we get it out so that folks see and hear Eugene Story directly from her?
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Yeah, I mean, the first thing is to go to our website, ask egenefilm.com and you can see where all the screening, theatrical screenings are, and we keep adding them. And if you in your community think that you could even gather enough people to fill a small theater for one screening, we will provide you with the film. So that is one way, because it is such a community action, to see this film together. I really feel that strongly. And it just, it's really galvanizing. So you can do that. We hope. We are hoping to do, you know, video on demand or YouTube release, something that gets out much further, far and wide. But for now, we are at theaters kind of scattered across the country. But we can do more. And I like to do the Q&As. I like to bring the film and talk to audiences. So in the fall, we hope to go do a university run as well and really get it out there.
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That's so great, Ivy. Thanks so much for the time.
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Thank you, Aaron.
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