PMS 2.0 1244 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 11 Recap, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Bill Belichick, Jonnu Smith, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show - Episode PMS 2.0 1244

Release Date: November 18, 2024

In Episode 1244 of "The Pat McAfee Show" titled "OVERREACTION MONDAY," host Pat McAfee, alongside co-hosts AJ Hawk, the Toxic Table, and Tone Digs, delves deep into the NFL Week 11 recap, Monday Night Football (MNF) previews, and various player and team analyses. The episode is enriched with insights from notable guests like Bill Belichick and Adam Schefter, providing listeners with a comprehensive overview of the current NFL landscape.

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1. NFL Week 11 Recap

Pat McAfee opens the show by highlighting the excitement surrounding Week 11 of the NFL season. He emphasizes the intensity of rivalry games, the emergence of young stars, and the unpredictability that makes the current NFL season particularly riveting.

Pat McAfee [00:00]: "Football is amazing in the Week 11 Sunday slate of the NFL season, delivered in a way that I don't think we've seen the NFL do in some time."

2. Dallas Cowboys vs. Houston Texans

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to the primetime matchup between the Dallas Cowboys and the Houston Texans. McAfee discusses the dynamics of the game, focusing on Cooper Kush leading the Cowboys and the Texans' offensive strategies with CJ Stroud and Nico Collins.

Pat McAfee [04:08]: "I'll take it as the Cowboys are seven-point dogs at home to the Houston Texans, who have Nico Collins back as a weapon for CJ Stroud to utilize."

3. New York Giants Quarterback Decision

The conversation shifts to the New York Giants' recent decision to bench Daniel Jones in favor of Tommy Cutlets. McAfee critiques the decision, highlighting the financial implications and speculating on Daniel Jones' future prospects.

Pat McAfee [02:05]: "Daniel Jones has an opportunity to maybe restart his career elsewhere. He's already been broken off and paid very, very well. But it is Daniel Jones for the New York Giants."

4. Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Baltimore Ravens

McAfee and co-hosts analyze the Steelers' triumph over the Ravens, commending kicker Chris Boswell's historic performance of six field goals in a game—a feat he has achieved four times in NFL history. They also discuss the defensive prowess of both teams and the ongoing rivalry dynamics.

Boston Connor [05:42]: "They weren't a great game on either side of the offense... but the defense was unbelievable."

5. Chiefs vs. Bills and Josh Allen's Dominance

The episode covers the Buffalo Bills' victory over the Kansas City Chiefs, marking the Chiefs' first loss of the season. Pat McAfee and Adam Schefter discuss Josh Allen's leadership and the Bills' potential as a formidable team moving forward.

Adam Schefter [28:13]: "Josh Allen is as good as anybody. We haven't given him the attention he deserves."

6. Green Bay Packers vs. Chicago Bears

A notable segment revolves around the Packers' walk-off blocked field goal against the Bears, echoing similar occurrences from the previous week. The hosts debate the legality of the Packers' blocking techniques and the implications for future games.

Pat McAfee [06:07]: "They pushed the entire pile. It was a great play."

7. Los Angeles Chargers' Transformation Under Jim Harbaugh

Bill Belichick joins the show to discuss the Chargers' cultural shift under new head coach Jim Harbaugh. The transformation has led to improved performances, increased discipline, and a more formidable presence in the AFC.

Bill Belichick [28:20]: "Justin Herbert is as good as anybody. We haven't given him the attention he deserves."

8. Jacksonville Jaguars' Organizational Struggles

The Jaguars face scrutiny over their disappointing performance and potential staff changes. The conversation speculates on the future of their coaching and management under Tony Khan's oversight.

Bill Belichick [36:53]: "They have to sort it out and figure out what they're going to do and who's going to be in and who's going to be out."

9. 49ers vs. Seahawks Analysis

The hosts dissect the 49ers' loss to the Seahawks, attributing it to repeated setbacks, injuries, and inconsistent performances. They also highlight the Seahawks' resurgence and Geno Smith's impactful gameplay.

Bill Belichick [44:35]: "They need to play their best football going forward. They've kind of stumbled around here a little bit."

10. Detroit Lions vs. Jacksonville Jaguars Blowout

The episode covers the Lions' dominant performance against the Jaguars, labeling it one of the worst football games. The hosts express concerns over the Jaguars' ongoing struggles.

Pat McAfee [94:26]: "The Jaguars are destined for failure as long as Zach and Duke are in charge."

11. Player Spotlights and Injuries

Throughout the episode, key players like Jonnu Smith, Darius Butler, and Micah Parsons are spotlighted. Discussions include their performances, injuries, and their impacts on their respective teams.

Darius Butler [10:18]: "Josh Allen puts the team on the back, pulls out that cape, have that unbelievable touchdown."

12. Special Segments and Quotes

The show features various memorable quotes and interactions, especially with Bill Belichick, who provides deeper insights into team strategies and future prospects.

Bill Belichick [26:03]: "People are going to call you a bandwagoner, but who cares? You're going to have a blast."

13. Upcoming Games and Predictions

As the episode wraps up, the hosts discuss upcoming games, potential playoff implications, and offer their predictions based on the current standings and team performances.

Pat McAfee [101:00]: "It's going to be one of those weeks where everybody's expecting something, but it just comes down to four quarters."

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Notable Quotes

• Pat McAfee [00:00]: "Football is amazing in the Week 11 Sunday slate of the NFL season..."
• Bill Belichick [28:20]: "Justin Herbert is as good as anybody."
• Darius Butler [10:18]: "Josh Allen puts the team on the back, pulls out that cape..."

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Conclusion

Episode 1244 of "The Pat McAfee Show" offers an in-depth analysis of NFL Week 11, highlighting pivotal games, strategic decisions, and standout player performances. With expert guests and engaging discussions, the episode provides both casual fans and football aficionados with valuable insights into the evolving dynamics of the league.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this overreaction. Monday, November 18, 2024. This program starts now. Football is amazing in the Week 11 Sunday slate of the NFL season, delivered in a way that I don't think we've seen the NFL do in some time. We're talking about rivalry games, living up to the matchup, big hype. Living up to the hype. And then a Sunday Night Football game that showcased one of our young stars and one of our teams that we've wondered are they going to be able to be a, that can maybe win in the big moment doing just as such. Now, there's some teams that people are saying are dead. There's some teams that are saying are going to be able to go maybe. And then there's some teams that are in a purgatory still that have the next couple weeks to figure out whether or not they're going to be contenders or pretenders, whether they're going to be champions or rebuilds. It is all in front of us. And tonight, week 11 of the NFL season wraps up with the Dallas Cowboys on primetime football once again taking on the Houston Texans. Now Cooper Kush will be leading the Dallas Cowboys, who are seven point dogs at home to the Houston Texans, who have Nico Collins back as a weapon for CJ Stroud to utilize and be explosive with it should be fantastic. I believe there's a Manning cast alongside of it. And Bill Belichick will be joining us in the next hour. Adam Schefter will be joining us in about 19 minutes. There's some breaking news out of the New York Giants facility doesn't warrant long conversation because the team sucks. Yeah, but Daniel Jones getting benched, not for Drew Luck. No Tommy Cutlets, Tommy Davido, he's back being a starting quarterback in the NFL for the New York Giants. Congrats to all parties over there. Except for Daniel Jones. Yes, not an easy decision to be made, obviously. And Daniel Jones has an opportunity to maybe restart his career elsewhere. He's already been broken off and paid very, very well. But it is Daniel Jover for the New York Giants. And I'll tell you, the four year, $160 million deal was certainly a topic of conversation this offseason door to hard knocks whenever, you know, GM Shane and the owner Mara were having a con about Saquon Barkley's future and say, well, we gotta figure out whether or not we paid this quarterback $40 million for a good reason or not. Well, it was very apparent that everybody thinks that that was a waste of money. Now Daniel Jones, I assume, is a great guy. I've seen him play flip cup before out of Duke with a big brain. We've seen a resurgence of a lot of quarterbacks that have stunk early and then come back on different teams and play well. Maybe Daniel Jones will be one of those guys. But now Tommy DeVito, oh, the picture Prince is returning to action for the New York Football Giants. Does it matter? No, but we're pumped for Tommy Cutlets. At one point trending in the United States on x was Tommy DeVito number four, Tommy Cutlitz at number five right there behind him. We hope this will bring some electricity to the Giants fans who have obviously had to suffer through watching Saquon Barkley go absolutely bonkers for the Philadelphia Eagles in the same division in the same conference at the same time. Whenever the Eagles are going to the sky and the Giants are going down to the pits of Now Diana Rossini, formerly of espn, now working for the New York Times the Athletic says, you know, Daniel Jones best friend was Saquon Barkley. He's watching him go to a new place and have much success. Look out for Daniel Jones. And we all assumed immediately Diana were big fans. But comparing Daniel Jones to Saquon Barkley is a bananas thing to do, which is why we all wondered why they picked Daniel Jones over Saquon Barkley in New York, which is exactly what they're probably still doing to this moment. Now enough with this this convers. Daniel Jover let's talk about the Sunday slate. Let's go to 1/2 of the hammer. Don Cowboys AP Tone Pittsburgh Steelers, Baltimore Ravens Old school rivalry, old school tradition. Two teams that play very similar to each other. We're going to be physical, we're going to be smart. We're going to be known as a tough football team doing battle once again. Now there were some stats that we learned going into this particular game, especially with the Steelers being three and a half point dogs at home. Three and a half point favorites in this particular rivalry have gone like 2:18:2 or something like that against the spread. John Harbaugh as a favorite of three points or more in this rivalry had gone 0102 against the spread. Three and a half points, way too many points in this particular rivalry. I think we knew that was going to happen and that's exactly how the game played out. AP Town, your team is sitting very, very pretty. Russell Wilson's winning games and Chris Boswell, your kicker, even though every other kicker in the AFC north yesterday had a case of the shanks. Chris Boswell goes 6 for 6 to win this game. No touchdowns needed. We're just going to score 18 points off of Boswell's toe. Had some hembostats sent over to me here in the last few moments. Chris Boswell is the only kicker in the NFL history to hit six field goals in a game more than twice. He's done it four times. Okay. In 2016, week 15, they beat Cincinnati off of that six field goals. 2017 divisional round, they beat Kansas City City off of him hitting six field goals. That seems like so long ago. 2017 beating Kansas City in the playoffs. Pittsburgh Steelers did that. 2024, week one against Atlanta. Boz hit six field goals. They beat him. If you do recall, T.J. watt ended that game one on one. And then just yesterday in the rivalry game for the Pittsburgh Steelers of the AFC north, fighting for supremacy not only of the north but of the entire AFC. Boswell goes 6 for 6. Russ almost in the fourth quarter with that pick with about nine minutes left or whatever gives way, but instead gets a big time win. Where do Steelers fans sit right now and what are your thoughts on the Baltimore Ravens after the game?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, if the offense doesn't get in the end zone, we're going to get three points off of Chris Boswell's toe.

[Pat McAfee]

That's from a song.

[Boston Connor]

That is from a song. That's a Super bowl song. And that's how I'm feeling today. Pat. Eight and two sitting atop the AFC north two games up on the Baltimore Ravens. And the more things change, the more they stay the same in this rivalry. The last eight games, neither team has scored more than 20 points. Okay, last eight games. This is awesome. Always a defensive affair. So what's going to come down? It's going to come down to turnovers, which the Steelers got three of them to the Ravens one. It's going to come off a special teams. Tucker misses two kicks. Boswell obviously just said six a six. Time of possession, the Steelers had 36 minutes. Time of possession to the Ravens 23. Was it great on either side of offense? No. The Steelers went 4 of 17 on third and fourth down. But the defense was unbelievable on every single level. Obviously you see Patrick Queen, who we brought over from the Ravens, who I.

[Pat McAfee]

Didn'T know the big storyline was. I didn't know this was the case. I guess I learned this yesterday. I should have known this at the time. Baltimore did not offer Patrick Queen anything. No, they basically just offered him crop trash because whenever he Came to the Steelers. He said I was supposed to be a Steeler. I thought the entire thing was he picked the Pittsburgh Steelers over the Baltimore Ravens. Then it was very clear yesterday the way they were telling the story and the narrative was like, nah, they didn't want Patrick Queen, Pittsburgh Steelers Mike Tomlin says, come on home, get in here. Come on home. And he certainly showed up in a massive way for the Steve and he.

[Boston Connor]

Fits in so unbelievably. He obviously he made the play. Defensive line, Herbig making plays. Cam Hayward making plays. T.J. watt making place. Peyton Wilson, the rookie out of NC State who doesn't have any ACL. So he fell to the Pittsburgh Seals and he is perfect. Obviously making the interception there, which was unbelievable after the rust pick in the secondary. Joey Porter Jr. Was awesome. Like it was a just an incredible defensive effort. And then you talked about it. Now dogs are three plus points or more in this rivalry. Rivalry 19, 2 and 3. Harbaugh is 0, 11 and 2. Pittsburgh has won eight of the last nine against the Ravens. Feels good to be a Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, let's talk about the Baltimore Ravens. Obviously this is a game that, you know, Derek Henry didn't do much early, had a fumble. TJ Watt blows him up in the third quarter. A lot of people wondering why he wasn't on the field for the two point conversion that inevitably would have tied it up at the end. I don't know if you can really take this game and utilize it as something to judge the rest of the season. And that's what real rivalries are. And this is an actual, real rivalry. I am pumped that it showed up the way that it did. I think these two teams are going to go on and have great seasons. I'm excited to see who ends up where. Now speaking of that, in the afc we now have no undefeated teams left. Damn, I saw 1972 dolphins pouring some drinks out, doing their thing. They're the only team that is still undefeated for an entire season, all the way through the Super Bowl. Now the Kansas City Chiefs have suffered their first loss to the Buffalo Beals. Now if you do recall with the Buffalo Beals Kansas City Chiefs rivalry that has obviously blossomed between Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes during the regular season, the Bills win this game. Okay? That is they're undefeated in the regular season. In the playoffs though, it's the other way. Chiefs undefeated against the Bills. So a lot of people are going to say, what does that mean? What does it mean? Well, I don't think yesterday's game was indicative of the previous pass in records. I think that the Kansas City Chiefs had some flaws. Okay. I think all season we had seen him. They have a loss to a very good Buffalo Bills team. Hopefully that'll maybe make them fix that. But for the Buffalo Bills, this Josh Allen guy and I talked about it after getting a chance to watch him and what a signing Amari Cooper was go and get him at the trade deadline. So smart by Brandon Bean, who's an absolute dog, always going to make his team better. But watching Josh Allen in person, you really get to experience him. It's like an aura that comes from him. There's a moxie and a confidence that radiates from his body all the time and with how big he is, how fast he is and what that team has become, which is, hey, this is Josh Allen's team. We're going to build around him. We're going to trade some players out of here. We're going to have to re or overhaul our roster. We might not know everybody, but we'll make superstars because our quarterback is capable of doing as such. He definitely did that yesterday. And it all came down to a fourth and two with the Buffalo Beals being up to and having an opportunity to kick a field goal very much in Tyler big ball Basset's range. Even though he's got to start making all his kicks too. There's a lot of missing going on. Instead they go for it on 4th and 2 and Josh Allen does something that only Josh Allen can do. Now there is a runner in Indianapolis at quarterback who probably do something similar in Showcase yesterday. But watching Josh Allen lead this win yesterday, watching Josh Allen play the way that he's played, watching this Buffalo Beals team get over the proverbial hump against a team that they now know they are definitely better than. So if they run into him in the playoffs, maybe they'll be able to beat them. But what did you learn yesterday, nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler about this Buffalo Beals team and Josh Allen that maybe we didn't know going into the week?

[Darius Butler]

You know what, I wouldn't say I necessarily learned learned anything new going into the week because we knew he was a special player. You talked about the regular season success against the Chiefs over the years. Knew he was kind of right there. If Lamar faltered, he could jump right up and be at the top of that MVP ladder. And the thing about Josh, man, it doesn't matter who's been in there like Dalton Kincaid, he's been one of his biggest weapons. He's out. Keon Coleman, he's been coming along as a rookie. He's out. Coop gets back in the lineup. Shakur just catches everything he throws to him. So whoever he has around him, he's going to elevate that game. And that's what you always want at that quarterback position. Got a great offensive line, good run game. So they have all the pieces in the defense. The defense kept this chief's offense in check, which, you know, a lot of defenses seem have been able to do that this year. But it seems like every time soon as the game, it's one possession game. Okay? Yep.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay.

[Darius Butler]

They need a touchdown. Boom, they drive down and score. And you thought that would happen again, but for Josh to just put the team on the back, pull out that cape, have that unbelievable touchdown. I mean, you talked about the guy we have here that you looking at, Josh Allen. That's who you want, you know, AR5.

[Pat McAfee]

To become everything to your point about Patrick Mahomes being able to do whatever he wants whenever he has to. We all remember the 13 second thing, but like that's the reason why that that was called right there. Fourth and two in field goal range, two minutes left. Go up five.

[AJ Hawk]

Love it.

[Pat McAfee]

Go up five. Touchdown losers. But don't have to worry about a field goal with a new kicker in there anyways. But don't have to worry about a field goal instead. McDermott says, I've seen this before. Yeah, I know what this is going to be. We are going for this and Josh Allen shows up for him. Now let's talk about some stats that Hembo sent over the last five seasons since 2020. Most two touchdowns games, okay? Throwing two touchdown games. Josh Allen has 65 of them. Patrick Mahomes has 53 of them. Most three touchdown games. Josh Allen has 38 of them. Patrick Mahomes has 28 of them. You're talking about the two leaders in performing for their teams battling here in a week 11 showdown in Buffalo. And Bill's mafia showed up. Oh yeah, I enjoyed that CBS kick show being in front of their crowd. I enjoyed everything about the atmosphere. And I appreciate the fact that these Buffalo Beals and Brandon Bean not only trying to get better all through throughout the season, but they got this, they got something about them moxie. And you saw a lot of people tweeting it like, hey, if your team sucks. I think I saw Ryan Whitney spitting Chiclets NHL legend. He said, if your team sucks and is already out of it and the Buffalo Bills aren't the team you're cheering for, you're wrong. That is the team to get behind. They're fun, they're physical, they seemingly answer all the questions the right way after the game. Everything they say is that and they're built to go ahead and win. Congrats to the Buffalo Bills get a big time win.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, yeah, they've never.

[Pat McAfee]

Congrats to the Pittsburgh Steelers getting a massive win. I think you're gonna say they've never won. Yeah, we don't need to rain on. No, no.

[Boston Connor]

That's a fun. That's a fun team to get behind. If they, If a team that's never won something you want to versus like.

[Darius Butler]

Getting behind the Chiefs, they win their first one.

[Pat McAfee]

Agreed. Yeah. Now granted, I do think they've been hyped as a good team for a few years. So people are still going to call you bandwagon, but who cares? You're going to have a blast. Josh Allen makes every game entertaining. More so in years past because he was just turnover heavy, you know, this year it's different. No, he's a different player locked in. It is fun to watch that Buffalo Bills team. And good luck to the Kansas City Chiefs bouncing back. You have to weight of the undefeated season off. Yeah, exactly. So Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Ravens in that rivalry again. Buffalo Beals beat the Kansas City Chiefs in that rivalry game. Let's go to like the oldest rivalry in the NFL. Green Bay packers get a massive win over the Chicago Bears. Now Chicago Bears have a brand new offense coordinator Thomas Brown, remember, was put in place for Shane Waldron who was fired last week. What is that going to do? And then there was a report from Albert Breer. Well, you know Caleb Williams, this guy don't have a brain. So I know how to do a huddle. Don't know how to do a center quarterback exchange. I know how to do a meeting. And it's like I wonder where Albert's here and all these things. Okay. There was an offense coordinator that was literally just fired a couple days before that. We're not saying that's a definite, but maybe somebody from that world told Albert because we know Albert's tied in. So we wondered what the rest of the season was going to look like, how many changes could be made. Well, Chicago Bears look pretty damn good. Caleb Williams played his best game. I think they've made him more on schedule. They made it much easier for him. I think they showed up for him and they knew you beat the packers in the way this season has gone. That's quite a morale boost for every Bears fan and Bears worker in that entire building. Swift goes crazy in this entire game. But in the end, winners win, losers lose. Yep. Packers up 2019 in the fourth quarter. Caleb Williams does everything he has to do to get them into field goal range. With where that ball was spotted right there is now a 46 yard field goal. There's 30 seconds left on the clock. The big debate was they should have won for more yards.

[Ty Schmidt]

Come on.

[Boston Connor]

Three more yards.

[Pat McAfee]

They should have went for more yards. 46 yarder. If you get that to 44 yards, his percentage is much higher. They were saying under 45 yard kick is how he does versus over 45 yard kicks. How he does has a 53 yarder earlier in this day. 30 seconds left. You get well within the field goal line. You're playing the Green Bay packers whose defense has been very good. If I'm it's going to be hard for me as Zebrafluce not to be like, all right, yeah, we send a field goal operation out there now winning football. Exactly. We're way within range of where he should be make the kick is what they're thinking. But what they didn't know is that the Green Bay packers all week with Rich Bsaccia the special teams coordinator, he said yesterday I Garrett the day before the game, I guess to the team he would be surprised if they didn't block a kick because of how low Cairo Santos ball trajectory is. Now let's break down this particular fundamental flaw. Okay. Now there was a couple rules that were certainly bent a little bit. Not supposed to be able to blow up the center. Not supposed to be able to have people pushing each other either. Go ahead, play it a little bit. Let's go ahead. Play. Yup. Play, play, play, play, play, play, play. Stop that thing. Okay, so the snapper is the one bent over right in the middle with three guys around. Okay. I don't think you're supposed to be able to just blow him up. But I guess there is rules expert Schefter will maybe be able to tell us more from that entire thing. But this is a technique that is also practiced. Drive, drive, drive. Three steps, arms up. Okay. Because if you look at the physics. Or is it geometry? Maybe. Maybe it's geometry. Flight trajectory, where it's supposed to be. If you're able to get to it and you are in line with where the is, you're obviously going to hit the ball. Green Bay packers attention to detail. Beautiful. The physicality they're showcasing at the point of Attack, which is right over the center, which once again, I don't know if that's legal or not, but I don't know. I have no idea. They executed perfectly. They get a hand on the rock. That's a block kick. The Green Bay packers win on a walk off blocked field goal. Has to be the first time in NFL history where back to back weeks a game is won on walk off blocked field goals. But it's the attention to detail. It's winners win, losers lose. And you talk about hail Mary to the Chicago Bears a couple weeks ago, now you got a blocked kick up the gut. To lose for the Chicago Bears, they have to assume that the football gods are just working against them at this point. But maybe on the flip side, the football gods are working for the Green Bay Packers. Let's go to an owner of the Green Bay Packers. One half of the toxic table at Ty Schmidt. Big win over a rivalry pub. Yeah, big win over a rivalry, Bob.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, it was huge. And I mean I did on Friday, like I felt, you know, five and a half with everything that's being said about the Bears was like, all right, this, it is still a rivalry game. Granted The packers had 110 in a row, 11 in a row now. But then before kickoff I started getting even more nervous because, you know, they had the shot of Brady on the field with Caleb Williams talking to him a bunch of times. And then the quote came out that said, you know, Caleb Williams in the team meeting kind of addressed everybody and like apologized for, for basically being the reason that, you know, Waldron got fired. So it's like taking some accountability. It kind of just, just added up like, oh, here we go. The Bears are going to play their best game of the season. And then the opening drive, the packers went right down the field and scored. And it was like, okay, they're going to beat the shit out of them, like they should do. But for whatever reason, offense just didn't look great. Jordan love another red zone interception, which obviously you'd like to see those get cleaned up. But like you said, I mean ultimately like they did not play well. They probably shouldn't have won the game. But good teams find a way to win when they're not playing well. And this was massive for the packers because they're two games up now in terms of like the playoffs and they also jumped Washington, so they're the sixth seed right now. If they look like the, their percentages to make the playoffs, winning this game as opposed to losing it skyrocketed. So it was huge. And yesterday actually was the first day in a while where Jordan Love looked healthy. It's like, okay, the quad or not the quad. The ankle isn't an issue anymore. The groin isn't the issue anymore. So I think, you know, same deal like years past. Packers don't block that field goal. They just don't. The Bears make that, they lose and then you're on Monday. It's like, okay, what the hell happened? We did it again. But that's why it does feel like this team might be a little bit different now.

[Pat McAfee]

To your point, the Bears are in the position that a lot of teams have been in where they lose the heartbreakers. Okay. The bears are now five and 17 in one score games under Matt Eberfluss since 2022. Key that's the worst record in the NFL over that span. And we'll talk about the primetime game last night where feels like the charges might have exercised some demons in the middle of the game. And also over the last couple years about losing those ones you're supposed to win. But if we go back to that field goal block, we have a side view here. Not only did they like go right over top of the center, they also pushed. It was a great play. It was an absolutely great play by Versace. And if you what? And we get a push. Look at that. Can we put this here? Yeah. So this guy is the reason why this guy gets blocked.

[Boston Connor]

That's a big no, no.

[Pat McAfee]

So they have 1, 2, 3. Go ahead. Here we go. So it's a 1, 2, 3 up rule. That is basically the rule. 1, 2, 3, up. 1, 2, 3, Up. Go ahead, play pa. Go ahead. Keep going. Pause. So he's there. Okay, look where that is right now. Watch what old buddy here does. Ball is here. Okay. One, two, three, up. He's doing everything perfectly. This guy's about to get his arm up too. Go ahead and play that thing now. He moves the whole pile, pushes him into him up into the back of it. It's like if I'm a Bears fan, if I'm a Bears fan, I'm certainly wondering about some things. And once again, I don't know if they eliminated the push just from a pre snap alignment because guys used to.

[Darius Butler]

Go, there used to be two dudes.

[Pat McAfee]

On each of the shoulders of long snappers and then there would be a guy standing behind each of those dudes. So six dudes over the long snapper shoulders. And the guy in the back would just be hands on cheeks pushing ass. It was Tush, push through. And then 1, 2, 3, is all they were trying to do. And long snappers were just getting destroyed. I mean, just absolutely destroyed. So then there was some rule changes made where they had to go outside, but they were still allowed to loop in. Then there were some rules changes. You're not even allowed to be in the frame of the long snapper. And then I think it got to the point where it was like you're not even allowed to touch the long snapper. They touched them and they pushed. But I don't know if it's. If they did it legally with the rule that it currently is because it has changed numerous times. Because what it used to be to then what it became to what it is Now, I'm not 100% sure of all of them. We should have. Should have looked into that beforehand. But that's great work by the Green Bay packers special teams. Rich Batch. And once again, I mean, they pushed the entire pile.

[Darius Butler]

So isn't it a rough drift, like.

[Ty Schmidt]

Right behind, there are two of them.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

I feel like that push gets called.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. The. Yeah. Biggest problem, that was like the first thing that was eliminated, let alone like.

[Boston Connor]

Over the long snap of the. Like. I feel like today in these, if you don't. As long as you don't line up over them, if you get pushed into that direction, you're normally okay. But the push from like Van Ness, I feel like it's called a ton.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Hell of a play, though. Hey, listen. Winners win.

[Gumpy]

That's right.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo.

[Gumpy]

He made no bones about it either. Like post game, they asked him about it and he was like, yeah, you know, I just. Carl told me, hey, give me a little push. You gotta get.

[Boston Connor]

What's the worst case scenario? You get a penalty, they get whatever.

[Pat McAfee]

It was great block two weeks in a row. Now you got walk off field goal blocks. And let's talk about the prime time game, shall we? Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, we love the head coach of Los Angeles Chargers. We would like to proclaim that there is no hashtag journalistic standards. Do those exist? Hmm. Whenever it comes to judging whether or not we like Jim Harbaugh as a whole, we love him. As soon as he becomes the head coach of the Chargers, we immediately think, this guy's going to change the culture. This guy's going to flip this team around. And if you follow the Chargers over the last couple years, not as closely as Chargers fans, obviously we haven't, but we have somebody on our program. And also we have been a massive fan of Justin Herbert since his days at Oregon. We love this dude. The more we learned about him, the more we liked him. He grew up in his house. His parents would clear out the furniture in the living room and they would actually tape uprights onto the wall and they would play pickup football in the middle of the snow in their house. And they would have to kick extra points in their living room. When you're talking about loving ball, Justin Herbert and Herbert family love ball, great personality, doesn't showcase a lot. Super humble, hard working. But that Chargers franchise over the last few years for the beginning of his career kind of crop, yeah, he's dunk kind of crop. They would lose the games that they were supposed to win. They'd be in the lead to win games and they just give it away. Insert Last night Cincinnati Bengals come to town. Justin Herbert and the Los Angeles Chargers would cook early. We're talking dime after dime after dime. We're talking about having the time of your life on Sunday Night Football for a half for the Los Angeles Chargers. They would go in at halftime with about a three score lead. He'd be throwing things like that. Quentin Johnson, by the way, congratulations to you. People were talking a lot of shit about you. You've become a massive weapon for this Chargers team. And Justin Herbert showcased. Look at this long ass run. No, sell it. Ball back, walk it off, keep it cool.

[Ty Schmidt]

Next play.

[Pat McAfee]

This is who I am. Justin Herbert has been a phenomenal leader for this team. J.K. dobbins has been a great addition to this team. Not only here but at the very end of the game. Then it would get to the third quarter and all hell would break loose. A 21 point deficit would basically be eliminated by Joe Burrow in an offense that would show up and crush. All of a sudden Chargers fans are starting to get ptsd. Oh no, no. We're the same old Chargers. Oh no. This is the Chargers of the past couple years. Oh no. Another prime time game in which we're supposed to win. We should win. We could win, but we're just going to let guys get wide ass open and we're going to lose again. Joe Burrow would lead the Cincinnati Bengals all the way back to a tie. And then what would happen? Well, what I was talking about yesterday morning on NFL game day morning is the Harbaugh effect would be felt for the first time for the Chargers fans in a game in which they could have given up, in a game in the past in which they would have lost in a game that Chargers fans would be saying on Monday Morning. We suck again. They come back and win this thing. They had to battle through adversity lab. McConkey goes for two completions for 55 yards on this final drive. And then J.K. dobbins, when I assume they were just trying to get in field goal position for Cameron Dicker, ends up taking it to the absolute crib. This is Harbaugh being jk. Dobbins is so fast, so quick. Get off me. Get off me. This is Harbaugh being the guy that we all thought he was going to be, coming in and cultivating a culture of winning. And although Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals offense has done fantastic, they're out of it. They stink. This year is going to be jotted down as an L for the Cincinnati Bengals team, but for the Chargers, it's the complete opposite. Joining us now is a Michigan man who obviously got to experience Michigan man Jim Harbaugh's rise as the Michigan Wolverines head coach all the way to a national championship. Ladies and gentlemen, senior insider for the NFL for espn, Adam Schefter, Chef D. How you doing, pal?

[Bill Belichick]

How's everybody doing? I'm glad you started on Jim Harbaugh, Pat, because first of all, we've seen the job that he's done there in la. He's been unbelievable, which surprises nobody who knows him. And it also allows me to pump up something that our network has spent a lot of time on because during the owners meetings when we were together there outside that little meeting, remember we did that little sit down with Jim and John Harbaugh back in March?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Bill Belichick]

It was like 35 minutes of mirth and merriment. And then I went to Ann Arbor on the day that the jets decided to make the head coaching change and spend a day with his lovely parents, Jackie and Jack. And we had an unbelievable time. And so ESPN has put together all this stuff and we've worked on it for months now and it's going to start airing on the network this week. We do like a 30 minute primetime special be on ESPN Plus. All about the Harbaugh is the brothers. Some really, really funny stories that I didn't know.

[Pat McAfee]

That's amazing. And I assume the people at ESPN NFL who put this together have enough of a brain to understand that they should put that on YouTube as well and social media platforms so that people will be able to see it.

[Bill Belichick]

I'll let you tell. I'll let you tell them what they should do. I don't know any stuff about that. You're much better in that area than I am. But I appreciate your input and I will certainly pass it along. And if you want to say that as well, that's great.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, I'll put the word in. Let's definitely make sure people can find this, because we assume this is going to be fantastic because we were right outside the room. Room. And like, literally right outside the room before, during and after your conversation with him. And the vibes from the Harbaughs were immaculate, Wide open. I think you got a lot out of them, I assume, because they seem to be chatty. They seem to be very chatty. Jovial whenever we're down there. Very jovial. I can't wait to watch it. And let's talk about that Chargers team. Last night was a night in which they lose. That is just a heartbreaking loss for the Chargers. Normally, that is how it's been for the Chargers.

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And that's just the matter of the fact. That's a reality of the situation. But instead, they're able to battle through the adversity, win that game. J.K. dobbins goes bananas. Herbert goes bananas. What are your expectations? What are expectations around the league for this Chargers team? You know, because D. Butch said, you know, why not? They'll win a Super bowl this year. I think a lot of people thought this was going to take a little bit. Feels like it's happening right now with them. Shefty.

[Bill Belichick]

I think. I think this is a team that people are sleeping on. I think that they are good enough to stand with the Giants in the AFC and play with any of them.

[Pat McAfee]

And not the New York Giants. Not the New York Giants. Like the Big dogs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The good teams is what you said, man. Yeah, yeah.

[Bill Belichick]

They. They have the ability to stand with the Giants in the afc, with the afc, Giants with the standout teams in that particular conference and play with any of them. Justin Herbert is as good as anybody. We haven't given him the attention. He hasn't been healthy. They haven't won.

[Pat McAfee]

We have.

[Bill Belichick]

There's been a whole host of factors, and that's. Look, that's why this organization hired Jim, to change the culture, to get the team playing the way that it has this season. Would it surprise anybody if this team was good enough to go toe to toe with the Chiefs or any team this postseason? No. Could Justin Herbert make a push here for the mvp? Absolutely. Could this team play with anybody and have a deeper postseason run than anybody? Yeah. And that's Jim. That's what he does. He goes in, he changes the culture. The Chargers, I think we all could agree they were a team that always has been soft. They folded under pressure, they had tons of injuries. They just weren't reliable. And it just feels like Jim has changed the culture, the narrative, the expectations, everything. And, and they were able to prevail last night. Another tough loss for the Bengals, but the Chargers are going in the right direction. I expect them to make the playoffs and I expect them to be able to make some noise.

[Pat McAfee]

I think Bill Belichick said it last week whenever I said, doesn't every football team want to be tough? And physically goes, no. And he starts thinking about, he starts talking about the decisions that teams have made or franchises have made whenever they made changes. And he said, then look what the Harbaugh did. Instead of losing any of their high cash, high cap hit, interior people. They got rid of Keenan, they got rid of Mike, they got rid of everybody on the outside. They keep Khalil, who's out, they keep Bosa, and then they use Ult as their top 10 pick. It's like that was a very big message, like, hey, we're going to be a tough team. We're going to be a physical team. And then Harbaugh's in there shirtless and khakis lifting every single day. It's like, this is who we are. I think Herbert loves it. I think we're seeing the best, Justin and congrats. And I'm happy for the Chargers, man. I am happy for the Chargers.

[Bill Belichick]

You go back to the draft, remember all these mock drafts coming out and a lot of people were mocking a wide receiver there because they didn't have a great wide receiver. A lot of people felt, and they felt like the Chargers, that would be a natural at number five to go. Marvin Harrison Jr. If he felt there, or Malik knit. And I just think when you spoke to people in said football, you look at who Jim has been, what he's like, he's not going wide receiver with his first pick with the tree. He's going, he's going big man. They like he said himself after the draft, we view offensive lineman as weapons. He drafted a weapon of mass destruction. And Joel, that's what he did. It was what he was always going.

[Pat McAfee]

To do, I think so. I think the video came from the Charger social team. Joe Alton, his dad show up.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And Jim goes, wow, who's taller? You guys stand back to back, back to back. And he's doing like, they're standing back to back like this with their head. He goes, goes, I Think Joe's got you by a little bit. You know, like just such a hardball move. I would assume in the scouting process. As soon as Harbaugh saw this with Joe. Al, I like this guy for Justin because we know how he feels about Justin Herbert. Like, we've obviously all heard how it is. Justin, wait till you see the guy I got you. He's the biggest human. He's big. His dad guess his dad almost as big. Just a big f. A lineage of big people. Yeah. Couldn't one people could be able to get under him is what they thought. That has not been the case at all. Go ahead.

[Bill Belichick]

Hey, Pat. We're coming on. It's 12:32 on a Monday, so we're roughly 10 minutes into the start of this. We've been talking to Chargers. I'm curious, when's the last time you had this much charger talk on a Monday morning?

[Pat McAfee]

So I just want to let you know. Well, we cover the Chargers over here. Okay. I didn't say you did. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

This positive, though.

[Boston Connor]

It was bad news.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was always bad. It was always like, ah, the Chargers are so good. Justin Herbert so good. The team's so cool. But they lose again. Maybe. Maybe Guy stays inbounds. When they don't have any timeouts and they run out of time. Fourth down. Maybe a fourth down goes for it and they choose to do something. Maybe they go out of bounds instead of staying inbounds. Team gets ball back and comes back the other way. It's like there was just a comedy of errors for that Chargers team every time they were set up to win. Now they're winning those games. And on the flip side, since Bengal Shifty.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, no.

[Pat McAfee]

Bengals. What's going on? Is it Joe over over there? Because obviously T. Higgins has a big game.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Joe Burrow has had a massive game. Seemingly every single game he has played defense. They can't do anything. What do you think happens with the Bengals going forward? And we know how that Brown family operates as the Bengals ownership. This is obviously a massively disappointing year for this team. I don't think anybody expected this, including us, including Joe. What do you think the conversation is in Cincinnati about what the future looks like for the Bengals?

[Bill Belichick]

Well, I think there's a short term and a long term. Right. And I think that they're focused in on the short term. What I would say would be that at 4 and 7, despite this being a disappointing season, I mean, they're competing, I think, for one playoff spot. It looks like you come down To Denver, Cincinnati, Miami, some teams making a push for that final spot. And the interesting part about it is I think there wouldn't be a team out there that would want to face the Bengals. Like that's a dangerous football team. And especially when they got the two wide outs out there together chasing Higgins. Like they just seem so formidable and they didn't get it done last night and they, they've had tough losses this year. I still think they're capable of making a playoff push. It, it's getting late early there. They have the buy this week. They got to sit on that loss for two weeks, but they got a chance to make a push down the stretch here. It's going to be tough, it's not going to be easy, but they still could do it. And if they can make the playoffs somehow I think that's another team that can make some noise. But they got some work to do and some catching up to do before they could even get there.

[Pat McAfee]

Agree they have heartbreaking loss seemingly. Now that's their thing alongside many others. But McPherson got to start making those kicks too. Come on money. Come on money. Mac the AFC north kickers did not do well well yesterday other than Chris Boswell. Let's talk about a team that didn't do well yesterday. Detroit Lions were favored by the most in the history of Detroit Lions football over a team against Jacksonville Jaguars, 14 point favorites. Whenever that thing kicked off In Detroit, they covered 5x against his Jacksonville Jaguars team, that seemingly absolute crop unless they're playing the Indianapolis Colts in Jacksonville. Going into the game the conversation was like Peterson, Balkan are on very thin ice here. Then they get their asses beat in front of all of Detroit Rock City by the brand new Lions. Where do we stand there and how come nobody's bringing up chief football strategist Tony Khan? Is he also on a hot seat down there in Jacksonville? And what does the future look like in Jacksonville?

[Bill Belichick]

Well, look, change is coming to Jacksonville. We just don't know whether it's going to be today, tomorrow, next week, next month or when the season ends. Now is obviously a natural time to look at it and to my knowledge there haven't been any decisions made. I would think that at some point today there may be some conversations between the owner shot Khan, the head coach, Doug Peterson. I think there's a feeling in the building right now where everybody is anxious, uncertain, nervous about what's going to happen. Would you be surprised if something happened today? No. Would you be surprised something happened tomorrow? No. Like something's coming that that was a horrendous performance. The worst loss in franchise history. It was an organizational failure. When you're looking at those types of issues, you know that there are going to be decisions that have to be made and changes that take place. So the only question is, when does that happen? And the bye week always is a natural time for those types of things. Again, the players, I think, are going to be leaving the building about 130. So about an hour from now. We'll see if anything comes out of there today. So far. It's been quiet so far today.

[Pat McAfee]

Has it? Was it Florio? Who was it that. Yeah, that tied him? Belichick. Florio. And obviously Florio has been around the game a long ass time. He's part of Football Night in America. So he talks to a lot of people. Before his reports, they were saying Balki. I think he reported that Balki might be safe because Bill Belichick might be the one that they're actually looking at to go down there in Jacksonville. And Balki and Belichick worked together in 1906 or 96. I forget which one. Either way, it feels like about a similar length of time in there. Whenever you think about who's going to lead the future down there, it's all the same contenders or is there anybody that we could potentially link to? Anybody. And once again, is the chief football strategist potentially in trouble down there in Jacksonville?

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah, that's like one of those splashy Sunday night things that I don't know, you know, Bill Belichick, I don't know that he's waiting around to go work right now.

[Pat McAfee]

We love you, Florio. We love, love you. We love you. We love you. But go ahead.

[Bill Belichick]

I think right now, again, I don't think anybody is safe in Jacksonville and again, they have to sort it out and figure out what they're going to do and who's going to be in and who's going to be out. But I think again, when there's an organizational failure the likes of which experienced, everybody right now is under the microscope.

[Pat McAfee]

Tony Khan, jeez, make some changes. Well, he had that broken neck at draft night. I think that could have been an indicator. Yeah, he took that Tony Khan driver the night before the draft or whatever and he's making calls with a neck brace on to free agents. And now they're the worst football team in the NFL. Who would have thought?

[Gumpy]

His dad did say this is the best roster we've ever assembled.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I think that's because chief football strategist Potentially put numbers down. It's like, I hope for the good of the Jacksonville fans and for the good of Shad Khan, who has invested a lot. This guy. This guy wants a winner. This guy. I mean, you're talking about rebuilding up the stadium, talking about rebuilding up a city, talking about paying whoever. It's like, I hope for his sake they get a winner at some point. But, boy, it has been an abysmal.

[Darius Butler]

Situation for that report to come out, you know, before Sunday, and then for them to show up and play like that as an organization like that was a bad bat. I mean, at least. At least. At least Tony showed up. You know, at least he had to. He had to brace. If the guy showed up and had some grit, I mean, that was. You're right, that was bad. I mean, obviously, the Lions are a wagon. And Jared Goff is. Is he back in the MVP conversation?

[Boston Connor]

Because I heard he was never out of it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

You're an AP voter. I guess, so. That would be in your world. But there were certainly people who were saying, you throw five picks in one game, you can't be considered mvp. Well, the next week, he has another perfect game. Congrats to golf. Hell, yeah. That's the Detroit Lions showing up and doing what they're supposed to do. That's not what the old Lions would have done. That would have been a close one. Oh, yeah. Seven possessions, seven touchdowns. I've watched a lot of bad football in my life as a Detroit Lions fan. I've never seen a team worse than the Jags yesterday. Well, I don't know if you saw the Colts jets game. I mean, there was a lot of conversation around that as well. Shafty, let's talk about another team that isn't playing as good as we potentially thought they were. Unless you have.

[Bill Belichick]

Here's. Here's one final little factoid on that game, just so you know, about the Jaguars Lions. It's just a little afterthought here. I thought it was kind of interesting. Somebody said the lions yesterday had 38 first downs and no punts. 38 first downs and no punts.

[Ty Schmidt]

Damn.

[Pat McAfee]

That's. That's playing against air, brother.

[Ty Schmidt]

And their pun is great.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I would argue they only had three negative plays the whole time. It was insane. That's awesome. What a performance.

[Bill Belichick]

That if you had ever punted for this Lions team, that would have been the best job you ever had.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Bill Belichick]

The best job you ever had.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And a lot of people think, like, the punter, you know, like, When I was punting for the Colts. Jog off the field before a game. You have no punch today, bud. As if they were shit talking me. It's like that means I'm going to have a great night tonight. We are going to have. I'm here to celebrate. I'm here to have a good time. Jack Fox is a dog. Maybe they should put him at quarterback in the fourth quarter late to get that guy some reps. I like that. So he can feel like he's a part of it. 38 first downs. You can't even script that in practice.

[Darius Butler]

That's.

[Pat McAfee]

You can't even script that in practice to go that well in. The Jags happen to be on the other side of it. Once again. The Jags are only good against Indianapolis Colts. Everybody else seems like it's a dub. Good luck, Duval. You guys don't deserve it. You don't deserve it. Let's get to a team that isn't playing anywhere near what we thought they were going to play. And I am starting to worry a little bit. Con man has a question for you.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Shifty. Yesterday, the 49ers, in a game that kind of everybody would have thought maybe they do squeeze it out somehow. Kind of the opposite of the Chargers effect of recent memory. They lose to the Seahawks after a Geno smith touchdown with 13 seconds left. Obviously no KD, so they were a little banged up. But is it time to start worrying about the 49ers a little bit? They're last in the division even though the division's very, very close. What's going on over there and do you think they're going to be able to figure it out? Here I was.

[Bill Belichick]

Time to start worrying about the 49ers. All season long, they have not been the same team. It's just been. It's just been a challenge all year long. Like things continue not to go right for this team. And it's like all the injury breaks that they've gotten in other years, they don't get this year. Like Nick Bosa goes out of the game yesterday with a new hip injury. Gino has time down the stretch. He's running around making things happen. They've ill timed penalties at the wrong time. They're missing George Kle. It just, it's one of those years where it just feels like every time it seems like it's starting to go in their direction. Boom, setback. Okay. There they get back McCaffrey. They pull out the win. They lose to Seattle. It's. They can never String it together. Every time you think, okay, here come the Niners because they're the Niners. And that's what we all expect out of the Niners. Something happens to alt that momentum and the scramble yesterday from Gino late in the game on second down with 12 seconds left to go into the end zone to win the game. Game for Seattle. I think they had beaten Seattle eight straight times. Gino hadn't beaten the Niners in Seattle. Most of these Seahawks players had never beaten the 49ers. And here they are in San Francisco, a team that finally got back Christian McCaffrey. You think that here come the Niners. And that's not what happened. So the good part for the Niners is nobody is running away with that division. The Cardinals are coming off a buy in first place. Cardinals play the Seahawks this week. There's a lot of football left. But the 49ers have already lost their divisional games. They put themselves behind the eight ball here. They've made life tougher for themselves and it just, it just has not felt like their year all season long.

[Pat McAfee]

Now on the flip side there Seahawks right in the middle of this whole thing. Yeah. Awesome. 5 and 5. With the way the NFC west is set up with a win over the Niners here for standings and everything, it's like with what the Seahawks conversation has been like, is this team going to be okay? New culture. They forced Pete Carroll out. Is the football God going to remember that they did that to Pete. They paint over the walls. It's not going fantastic. Get rid of some players that all that. Then Geno Smith's dancing around skirting in the end zone against the Niners and now they're right in the mix for the NFC west and the entire nfc congrats to the Seahawks Hawks. That's a massive win. Now obviously we phrased the question and by we I mean Boston Connor, because it's very real. And maybe we have a few of the San Francisco 49ers making it to the super bowl and some of our long term parlays in this entire thing. But it's like congrats to the Seahawks being all the way back and Geno Smith playing great ball against a very, very good team. That NFC west is going to be, oh yeah. Dynamic down the stretch to watch it all. Cardinals is also awesome.

[Bill Belichick]

You put, you pointed out the Niners are in last, but they're also within a game of first.

[Pat McAfee]

Like yeah.

[Bill Belichick]

And it's just going to be these divisional battles every single week that decided but nobody's been able to get real momentum going. The Cardinals have looked like frankly the strongest team so far. 10 games in for them and we'll see if they can keep it up. They've had. They play with an energy and enthusiasm, you know. Back to the Niners a sec. It just seems like, like the defensive line not getting the pressure when it needs it. Allowing those runs late in the game. It's just not the same defensive line that it was last year. You see some of the guys leave. There's only so many losses you could withstand. But there's an opportunity there for Arizona, for the Rams, for the Seahawks. Seahawks took advantage of it yesterday and this division is going to go back and forth like this a few different times. There'll be a few more twists and turns left before we can figure out who's going to win the NFC West. But Seattle's right in the thick of it right now and if Geno plays like that at crunch time, they're going to have a good shot.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, congrats to the Rams getting a massive win over the Patriots too. Yeah, long flight. That's a long flight all the way over there. Get a big time win over Drake May who we believe is going to be great in the future. But the Rams with Puka and Cooper are going to be tough to stop. I mean that is just a matter of fact. What was the percentage that Cooper and Puka made up of their offense?

[Darius Butler]

70% of their catches, three touchdowns between the two.

[Pat McAfee]

Congrats. The Rams getting all their weapons back. Remember there was a time they were going these sellers at the trade deadline, maybe mailing it in. Instead they get Puka back. Cooper's healthy now this. I believe he lost his breath. I believe he had a scary moment. It is the worst. If you've never experienced it, it is a nightmare. You think you're going to die. You think, oh, this is the new normal now I'm not going to be able to breathe for the rest of my life. And then inevitably it comes back just like Puka did. Made some plays later in that game. Congrats to the Rams. Now we got to couple more burning questions out of the nfc. Let's go to Ty in another blowout.

[Gumpy]

Yeah. Similar situation. Chef the after they signed Kirk Cousins, I think everyone was high on the Falcons, especially when you look at that division and they had looked good until last week against the Saints and then again yesterday just getting embarrassed by Denver. What do you think the cause of concern is for the Falcons with the Buccaneers kind of still being Right on their heels there.

[Bill Belichick]

That probably is the cause of concern that they haven't played well in the Buccaneers. The Buccaneers, to me, have played really well down there, and they haven't won and they've lost. What is it, four straight. But when you watch them, they look so tough and gritty out there, like. And they're going to get some people back here and they're going to get healthier. And I think Tampa is going to be formidable and dangerous. And Atlanta had an opportunity here to separate itself. Can we put the standings back up there again to take a look at the NFC south here? But Atlanta had an opportunity to separate itself, and it squandered that opportunity. It squandered. And now it's still, what, a game and a half up on the Buccaneers right now. So they're still in a good spot. The Falcons are. But they were 6 and 3 and rolling and playing a Saints team that frankly, they. They should handle that.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh game.

[Bill Belichick]

And they did.

[Pat McAfee]

This is the new Saints brother. Pay some Hills back to doing Taste of Mill, too. I put that tweet out about Taysom Hill. I'm like, it feels like Coach Riz walked into the offensive meeting room, said, I don't know what it is, but I haven't seen Taysom Hill do Taysum Hill stuff in, like, two years. Has anybody? Am I the only one that's missing anything? You got t throwing touchdowns, catching touchdowns, throwing interceptions, fumbling. I mean, you had real tum hill experience yesterday for this New Orleans Saints team, and I know their record says that they're mathematically close to being out of it, but why not? Riz in the Saints getting hot. But to your point about the NFC south, the Falcons last week should have won that game. Then they lose this game. Now they're going into a bye week. And I know Kirk Cousins is going to be on Football night in America, so might be able to answer some more questions, but what is happening? What the hell is happening down there? And then when Pennocks gets in at the end, nine minutes left, you look. Wait a second. You know, it's like, I don't want to be that person, but if they continue to lose. And we had Kirk on, what, two weeks ago? Yeah. Yep. We had Kirk on two weeks ago. And we're like, remember those conversations that were happening around draft. It got loud. It got loud. It's like, that's the reality of the NFL, especially when it looks as bad as it did against this Broncos team that don't look now. Yeah. Bo Nix is Very much in the rookie of the year conversation. I don't know what Jaden Daniels season looks like the rest of the way. Obviously he is by far the leader in the clubhouse in that particular world. Brock Bowers breaking records for rookies and receptions, he's also in there. But like what Bo Nicks has been able to do over the last few weeks, they're on a trajectory upward. They're yodeling. Yodeli, yodeli. But on the flip side, Atlanta Falcons just looked bad. Just looked, looked bad.

[Bill Belichick]

Well, that touchdown run by Javante Williams, that, that to me, that's all about will, effort and force. And he just showed like he wanted it more. You watch this run like he's at the five yard line, there's four or five guys on, and he just pushes everybody into the end zone. Like, I mean, I, you know, look.

[Pat McAfee]

Like those DBs thought that was going to get blown dead.

[Darius Butler]

You know, a couple. That's what, that's what offensive lineman is supposed to do. Big boys got behind him, pushed him in there. But yeah, that's, that's effort. That looks bad.

[Pat McAfee]

It does look bad. But I think the DBs all thought that was going to get blown dead. But to your point, you lose bad. You got that on tape. And then everything happened and going into a buy, it's like Raheem Morris got some real shit on his desk right now.

[Darius Butler]

You're healthy too.

[Bill Belichick]

But you know what, here's the thing. They ran into a Saints team that hired a new coach. So there was going to be a new energy there that day. And it showed. And the Saints came out and beat the Falcons as they deserve to. And then yesterday, Denver has been a good team this year. And Denver is coming off two straight losses on the road at Baltimore, at Kansas City in a game they should have won. I felt like yesterday was going to be a tough, tough, tough game for the Falcons no matter what. And it went exactly the way I thought. And Bo Nicks. So Darren Rizzi happened one week and Bo Nicks happened the next week. You see the numbers right there. Rookies don't do that. It's over 80% completion rate, four touchdowns, no interceptions. Bull Knicks is getting better and better and better. You mentioned the offensive rookie of the year, Jaden Daniels had the rib injury and he's not looked to run at all. His rushing yards have dropped dramatically and one of the biggest elements of his game has not really been a factor since he hurt that rib. So whereas he's been running around making things happen, not as much so lately and they've lost the last couple of games and Bo Nix is coming out there and throwing dimes to Devon Bailey and whoever it is. They have all these receivers out there and you know, Sean Payton looked like the cataw ate the canary a little bit this summer talking about this draft class and how it was going to be special and these rookies going to make he. I think he's known all along what he thought he had in Bo Nicks and now everybody is getting a glimpse at what he thought he had in Bo Nix and right now it's worked out great. Bo Nick's getting better and better and better. He's elevated himself into that conversation and he's been along with Brock Bowers, the hottest rookie in football the last month or so.

[Pat McAfee]

We were very lucky to talk to coach Peyton on draft night and he told an entire story about the first time that Bo Nix came and visited them in Denver and he got to hang out with them for a while. As soon as Bo Nix got out of the car to get to the airport, he said he was a part of the drop off for him. He said everybody has to feel the way we do about this guy. He was obsessed in love with him, the human in love with the style of player that he was and in love with the competitor that he is now. There were some moments on the sideline, you know, this guy still got some Ferris Bueller in him.

[Gumpy]

Yep, that's right.

[Pat McAfee]

His was champagne. I still had no idea what that means. Maybe he thinks he's young, maybe he thinks that type of stuff. But nonetheless they seem to be perfect for each other. And Bo looks jocked in that particular photo and I assume everybody's jocked about what's going on over there. One player that's not in conversation for offensive rookie of the year, Malik Neighbors of the New York Giants. They just bench Daniel Jones for Tommy Cutlets. D Butch, nine year NFL vet, has a question for you.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. Talked about the benching at the quarterback position. Now you talked about the Rizzi Bump. They got fired after they lost to the Pacific Panthers. Giants just did the same with benching the quarterback Brian D. Ball, head coach, how safe is he for the rest of this year and going forward? Obviously we've seen a lot of what happened behind the scenes on Hard Knocks with Joe Shane. So with Joe Shane, the GM and the head coach Brian D. Ball, how safe are those guys the rest of the way?

[Bill Belichick]

I believe they're safe right now. John Mara came out and said that they were Going to be safe. I think that they are right now going to be safe. I think, look, this team's got to play better down the stretch. Everybody knows that, that. But I think right now this ownership wants to believe in continuity, wants to not make any changes. That's what. That's what they're planning to do. Could their plans change? Sure. But I don't believe they're planning right now to change the head coach in the gm. That's not in their plans. Now we got a lot of time left. Let's see how the rest of the season plays out. Things always could change, and they always do change in the NFL. That's what happens. But John Mario, I mean, he. He said himself, we're not going to be making any changes in season, and I don't anticipate making changes after the season. Those are his words.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay?

[Bill Belichick]

Take him at his word.

[Pat McAfee]

Amen. Well, his words were, I'm not going to be able to sleep at night if I see Saquon as Philadelphia Eagles. So he might be a tired guy too right now, you know, because he has had to see a lot of that in prime time at a high level. Allegedly. There was a report that picked Tommy Cutlets over Drew Lock because Drew Lock wasn't healthy in training camp. So he doesn't know the offense as well. Tommy Cutlets has had success in that offense. Is that accurate?

[Bill Belichick]

I think the reason he went with them is that last year, Tommy Kotlitz provided a spark. They felt like he could do it again. Last week someone called and they were saying to me, hey, FYI, when. When you watch this team practice, supposedly Tommy had been the more impressive, picked up things faster than Drew was, was more impressive. They had a familiarity there with him, him with them. And I think that they were aware of the spark that he brought to that team while last year. And I think that they're hoping that he can do the same thing for them this year.

[Pat McAfee]

Tommy Mozilla going out there, do his thing. We got about a minute for this question, but it's a very important one. We all see all Tyson's butt cheeks. We also saw a lot of buffering. Go ahead, Tone.

[Boston Connor]

A ton of buffering. I had to X out a few times. I know. Foxy couldn't even get to work at all. That was a fight. Okay, we got Christmas Day, NFL games, big games. Was there any concern over at the NFL? Do you know if they made any calls to Netflix saying, hey, this cannot happen on Christmas Day.

[Bill Belichick]

What game? What can't happen on Christmas Day, the.

[Pat McAfee]

Buffering, the streaming, the crashing, the everything. Ah, ah, ah.

[Bill Belichick]

I got. I got it.

[Darius Butler]

Listen, cheeks.

[Pat McAfee]

Not. But I mean, if Tyson wants to show up with his cheeks out, that's on Christmas. I mean, we can see it. He's going, holy jolly butt cheeks. I. I don't know if that's going to happen, but the buffering, the crashing, that. That's. That felt amateur of Netflix, that felt like an amateur podcast platform that was trying to put on. You know what?

[Bill Belichick]

I knew. I heard about it. I didn't watch it. I'm going to. I'm going to guess that when your pockets are as deep as Netflix's are, that you're going to be able to get that figured out by the time Christmas Day rolls around that the NFL is going to make say, hey, you know what? We don't want any buffering. We don't want any issues. We don't want any butt cheeks on Christmas Day. Let's get this all straightened out, right? And it's okay to have it in the boxing match, which a lot of people weren't happy about, but we're not going to do this again on Christmas Day, by the way. Isn't it. Chief Steelers.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Ravens. Texans. Chief Steelers. It's going to be.

[Bill Belichick]

And Beyonce. Beyonce. Halftime.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. It's going to be gigantic. And you would say Netflix got deep pockets, so they'll be able to figure it out who was doing the whole. I mean, I didn't need to hear a lot of those people. I mean, a lot of question marks around that entire operation. You know, they're just getting into sports, though. They'll get figured. I'm sure they got it figured out. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL Insider for espn. We'll see you tonight on Monday night Countdown from home, apparently.

[Bill Belichick]

Thanks for having me, guys. Appreciate. Have a great day.

[Pat McAfee]

From home, apparently, yet again. Go on the road. Go see these people. Adam. Chef.

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Football it is awesome. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. It is Overreaction Monday and we are doing as such. We still have overreaction tweets from around the X verse that we put out a bird call for this morning ended up being the number three trend on X, which we appreciate everybody for participating. We have Bill Belichick joining us in a matter of moments and the talks are tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, con man. We talk about Bo, Nick's going bananas and then obviously Jaden Daniels has done what he has done and Shafter brings up a good point since the rib injury. Feels like the movement hasn't been as good as it was early. But Jaden Daniels, heavy favorite for the offensive rookie of the year for what he's already done a lot to play. Caleb Williams already has an offense coordinator been gone and is he going to get better and move forward? And there's your guy, Drake May. We all just kind of assume he's a guy, right? In a losing effort against the Los Angeles Rams and in weeks past in losing efforts against the teams that they play against, we all think Drake May is the future. Is that how you feel and is that how New England feels?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, absolutely. Everybody is all aboard the Mayflower right now. People are very excited about what he's doing. Some of the throws he makes too. It's not Just, you know, the off target or off balance ones like the play right before that. But that one, like that's a dart that is three steps back. Sling that thing. A little sidearm action he had going yesterday too. And he can move. I don't think there's been a quarterback like Drake May that the Patriots have had with the mobility. That's something that's very exciting. Obviously loves his offensive lineman. We saw him last week after the Bears win. Hey, let's get dinner. Let's get dinner tomorrow. And then he's throwing touchdowns to him. But everyone in New England's very, very excited. The team as a whole stinks. Not to, you know, be negative about it, but overall the team isn't good. Obviously we're three and eight. I assume this might be the last time we talk about the Patriots this year. Just because every week it is what you said. Hey, the Patriots lose, but Drake May is great. People are kind of sick of that. They are. We actually ended up cutting receiver this weekend. On Saturday, only two guys left from the 2022 draft class. So right now it is kind of a reset when it comes to the New England Patriots as a whole. But you know, we bring up the Chargers, you know, what do they do? They go get Justin Herbert, a big old white son of a. Joe Walt playing left tack, big old.

[Pat McAfee]

Playing right tack, big old.

[Ty Schmidt]

And that's exactly what the Patriots are going to do. They're going to load up on offensive line, kind of online D line Howie, like Sirianni would say and then we'll see what happens from there. But you know the wide receivers, Drake May still slinging the ball, slinging the pill. He threw for 282. It's not as if, you know, we don't have anybody to throw to. If I still feel good about that, feel good about the run game defense, I mean, got to clean it up. Two guys on the Rams you would assume get circle during the week. Hey, puking a cool and Cooper cup and they go out there and absolutely slaughter you. So I don't know what the hell happened there, but no still feel good overall about the Patriots. Drake May is for sure the future. He's going to be a Hall of Famer. He's going to play for 20 years in New England. Probably won a couple Super Bowls for us too.

[Pat McAfee]

So we like Drake, love him. We like Jaden.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

We like Bo. Yep. Yeah. Penix. He's playing in trash time. He looks good. Good. So Caleb, I guess is a question but who knows if anybody would be able to be successful in that current operation up there. He looked good of Chicago, made some massive plays.

[Gumpy]

He did.

[Pat McAfee]

And was. Felt like he was on time too. Like everything that was kind of being said.

[Gumpy]

Option stuff. He ran for 70 yards like.

[Pat McAfee]

And I guess he spoke to the team and said like owned up to a lot of stuff. Has a rookie. It's like, does this draft class quarterbacks potentially the future. Congrats to all of them. That's not normal. Normally. No, that's not normally the case at all. At all. Which leads us to last year's draft class.

[AJ Hawk]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

There was one particular quarterback that a lot of people had questions about. We didn't get a lot of answers because he only played like three games last year. Then he gets injured, has a season ending, surgery isn't round. Out of sight, out of mind. Now this new draft class comes in and boy, there's a lot of shiny objects, bright toys. CJ Stroud does what he does. Last year, Jaden Daniel's starting to do what he's about to do and. And then there's a guy who's a Florida Gator, didn't play a lot of football at Florida, didn't win a lot of football at Florida. But whenever he was playing in the NFL and he was healthy boy, he was electrifying. Ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to say it. If Anthony Richardson seemingly has figured out how to be a professional off the field.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Watch film, go to work, do your work, be a teammate, be a professional, be a face of a franchise. Understanding that you're 22 years old, but this is a multi billion dollar operation where it all revolves around you and how you act and how you show up. Well, yesterday he showed up. Anthony Richardson, the roller coaster ride, the experience that is one of a kind. His back end, he's 250 doing that to people now. DB had no chance and he had stand up and go, what the hell? How'd we even get here? I like the fact that the DB thought he was going to do what he had to do. But AR not only makes this guy's head a PEZ dispenser. In his first touchdown of two rushing touchdowns on the day, he also bounced back up, didn't get hurt there. That is a big deal. He not only didn't bounce back up, he was talking shit. You want to say your stuff could have been talking to us to be 100% clear. Don't care. Love what he's doing playing football. The team rallied around him. Now the jets look bad. Bad jets look bad at football. That was. This was a tough game to watch, to be honest with you, because of how the jets looked in its entirety. The only thing that was a saving grace is the fact that AR is electrifying when he's on the field and feels like he has a much better sense of who he is, what he is for the Indianapolis Colts. Nine year NFL vet, former Indianapolis Colts Darius J. Butler, Alec Pierce continues to do his thing. Josh Downs does his thing. AR is doing his thing. Jonathan Taylor has a chance to be great. Always has been, always will be. Offensive lines, moving defense is the reason why everybody is saying what they are saying about Aaron Rodgers right now. They're burning jerseys. What? They're burning Rogers jerseys.

[Ty Schmidt]

Come on, guys.

[Pat McAfee]

We'll talk to them about tomorrow. But nonetheless, Colts make the jets look bad, make the jets feel bad. And Colts are right in there for a wild card playoff spot. D Butch, you and I both have watched the Colts more than anybody that's watching. Yep, okay. I have invested more money than anybody that's watching this show in the Indianapolis Colts because the other people that have paid for the suites that we're in that are the most expensive suites aren't watching the show. We know that. And they're all entities. They're not human beings. So whenever you say invested in a team, that is a very real thing with this watching AR play is a spectacle. Yesterday had an edge about him. Team was around him, but also wasn't making massive mistakes. He missed a couple layups, but other than that, hit every single shot off the field, seemingly going great. We're in it. And that's a nice little reminder to everybody, I believe. Chuck Pagano gave me the stat yesterday before my NFL game day morning hit. He said, Colts only have one team left on the schedule that has above.500 record and that's the Lions this weekend. So this weekend at home against the Lions, with the way the Lions are playing, gonna be tough for anybody. We'll see. But the rest of the way, after the bye week, the Colts are in a good spot.

[Darius Butler]

And this is he.

[Boston Connor]

He is correct. That was before the Broncos won yesterday. So they are six and five now. That would be the second team.

[Pat McAfee]

But the Broncos are going to be competing with us for a wild card spot. So that's going to be a potential playoff game. So in it all, the Colts literally have it all in front of us if we're able to do it. And this is the reason why we're so passionate about winning now, because A lot of people are like, no, just kick on E or we need to do whatever. It's like, this is a good team. This is a team that has a lot of money spent on it. This is a team that has a lot of veterans on it. They get a huge win against the Jets. They might have been able to kind of unleash something in ar. If he's going to do this to people and pop back up every time, let's go.

[Darius Butler]

Huge game. Huge game. A lot of coming into this game, both teams were pretty much fighting for their life. You know, both teams still alive. The jets are still alive, mathematically. Colts still alive. Obviously, you know, those couple teams were chasing for that last spot. And anybody invested in the Colts, you and me both, like, as a fan, as a, as a team, whatever. This is what you want to see from Anthony Rich. And now it's going to be some bumps in a row. And it definitely. He got benched for two games and he said all the right things in the media and he showed up most importantly, like efficient. He was efficient from the pocket. They jumped all over the jets in the beginning. I think they went up 130 before the jets got a late touchdown before halftime. But efficient from the pocket. They used his legs, had some QB design runs. Obviously the one that went and ended the game. And in this drive right here, this drive, this read, this throw, you know, they had a specific play for that specific cover. Shane Steichen talked about it after the game. It was a Palms coverage. So you waited, you know, for the out to break and then hit that whole shot right down the sideline of Pierce. So this is everything we wanted to see, everything you wanted to see from Anthony Richardson and obviously all the things between Monday and Saturday. This is how you get these type of performances. Now it was obviously one performance against the jets, but week in and week out, we know this guy is talented enough to be the best player on the field at any given Sunday. So this what we. I mean, that throw, like it's not. It's not three or four guys in the lead that can make that throw, the guy on his back. So this is what we want to see. This is obviously what we want to continue to see. And I love this for Anthony Rich and bouncing back with all the shit that has been around him for the last.

[Pat McAfee]

Us included, of course, us being the shit included.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, we got. You got a job to do. You talk, you call. I call it how I see it, you know, and it is what it is, good, bad or Indifferent. You call this shit how you see it. And as a player, that's what we're used to as well. We go in at meetings. Coaches aren't, you know, kissing our ass. Teammates aren't kissing her. Hey, Pat.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Just keep doing. You figure it out. Like, nah, get your. Together. Everybody's got to be accountable to each other. So it's not about what happens to you as a player or a person. It's about how you respond to. And he responded.

[Pat McAfee]

And also, if he. And he's not. We get. We. We know he's not now, but if he was to waste all that just because he was not invested as being in the court, like, yeah, it would suck. That sucks. That completely sucks. So it's like, something had to be said. Something was said by a lot of people, both in the building and out of the building. But there's still enough time and everything in front of him. He's young, he's learning. 22 years old, you still got a lot of things that you can figure out. It's not like, old dog, new tricks. He's still developing his traits, his routine, his schedule, his weekly, everything. It's like.

[Darius Butler]

And it's. It's not like us either. It was like, you show up, you do your job, you'll be all right. I show up and do my job as a db, I'll be right as a quarterback. It's not just. Just, oh, I just show up and like, nah. You got to be an example for guys. They could be 30 years old, but that guy's. He's, you know, first one in the building, last one out. Not necessarily, but when you in there, you're doing your work, you're doing extra. You. You're leading the guys, you're saying the right things in the media. All that counts when you're the quarterback, CEO of that franchise.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. And, like, they are 5 and 6, and sure, like, okay, whatever. They beat the Jets. Still an NFL team, still on the road, still have to come back, face adversity after being up, you know, 10, nothing. But when it comes to the jets, like, it might be time, you know, I had the Lions playing the jets in the Super Bowl. So to say that I'm disappointed. Hand up. To say that I'm bummed out about the jets would be an understatement. But, like, when you're looking at that type of situation, who knows? Joe Douglas, I think you can also assume he's probably, you know, out the door, especially with how the whole Hasan Reddick thing happened. I'm not calling for him to be out the door. It just feels like, you know, you really. And the tea leaves. Ambassador Woody Johnson, he's probably going to, you know, leave that building for a little while, pass it back on to his brother. Hey, I'm sick of this. I don't know why I, I came back to America to run this team. It stinks. And then when you talk about Rogers, we love him. I, I love Aaron. Not just a football player. Everything he's about, I'm about. Okay, okay, so, so this stinks to, you know, kind of have it set in. But they, they might just have to call it on the entire year. Not, not, not Rogers as a whole, but like on this year when it comes to, you know, the future of the team. Now, who knows who in that building is thinking about the future of the team? If you think that a lot of those people in the building are going to be out, they're probably not. But when you're, when you're just looking at it from a bird's eye view, I think you bench everybody.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. We don't need any injury guarantees.

[Ty Schmidt]

Don't need any injuries. You don't need anybody missing next year. I mean, Devonte's gone, You know, it's not as if he's on a multi year deal. So, so maybe you run him into the ground, but Garrett Wilson, you don't, you don't really need him to be playing very much. Breece hall, who had an unbelievable game, he is, he's awesome. Yeah, he's awesome to watch. Don't need him getting hurt. You know, he got hurt, blew his knee out against the Broncos a few years ago and then he missed a little bit of time. Like you don't need that to happen for a young running back. Like it sucks in New York as a whole. But here's the thing, you know, if you don't want to do that, maybe you do. You know, keep wheeling everybody out there. You win a few more games, you don't get one of those top quarterbacks. You go get Dan Jones in the off season.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, he's got a house.

[Ty Schmidt]

Danny Dimes. You don't got to put your house up for sale, brother, because you're just trading that blue and white for green and white and you go be a jet.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a, the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. He's a college football national, national champion with the Ohio State University. He's a Super bowl champion with The Green Bay packers, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. hawk. A.J. i watched that jets team yesterday and obviously we've seen the jets on primetime a few different times. The Colts needed that one. Okay. The Colts needed that one. Thought they were going to give it away. Thought the jets were about to say and do their thing. They inevitably don't. Anthony Richardson runs over some more people. He has a fourth quarter comeback drive that has been beautiful. But watching that jets team, if I was a Jets fan, it would be hard to find. You'd be grasping for a lot of things to hold on any positivity.

[Adam Schefter]

AJ I mean, yeah, it's just. I cannot imagine how green he is feeling. I know I got to see the still shot that his wife took of him when he got home in time to see the end of that game. But yeah, it almost feels like. What is. What's the term? Snake bit and whatever it is, like what. Whatever they do, they just can't seem to either get out of their own way or I mean this. But I can, I gotta give AR some credit, man. This dude runs hard. Like an absolute monster. Like, can you imagine anytime you're trying to defend this team if they get down to the red zone how dangerous they can be when he is such a big physical back, but then he can obviously get out there and throw when needed, but it's just a whole nother dimension to try to stop.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And I think, you know, I like the fact that Shane Steichen said we had to tush push in Philly. That's fun. But everybody hates it on the offensive line and the quarterback, quarterback. So I'm just going to run my guy out to the outside and we're going to have a 250 versus 175 battle. Every single idea that was like he was just going for it. Like we got a fourth and one. I think there's a good chance and I assume other teams are going to know this. They're going to be trying to get AR out on a safety or a corner every single time. He's fast. I mean he can.

[Adam Schefter]

He had no chance. I credit for putting your sticking your head in there, buddy. But you had no chance at that angle. There's zero chance you're stopping him from scoring. So yeah, I love him throwing his.

[Pat McAfee]

Zero fun sir there taking that one off and hopefully. Right. We talk about everything that happened off the field. It's like if AR over the last few weeks has been able to craft a perspective of an NFL franchise quarterback too, with his immense talent on the. I mean, immense talent on the field. It is all over the place. I don't know how you flip the switch on everything, but if he has been able to do that, which it looked like yesterday, making little to no mistake and also being super invested. We talk about the halftime high fives he sprinted over to be able to give it everybody. There was a two point conversion though where he gets like visibly pissed and then like back to it as opposed to being a cool guy. Like, oh, we didn't get it. Damn. It was like showed emotion but then was professional immediately afterwards. It's like, we got a guy, we got a guy. And he won't be up for offensive rookie of the year, which is a damn shame. But he is damn near a rookie at this point and every week he's only getting better. I hope. Hope so. Congrats to the Colts on a big win into the jets fans. Boy, I, I watch that game through your lens as well, you know. Cuz we got to talk tomorrow. I was like, I don't know.

[Adam Schefter]

Still a lot of season left too. That's. That's the scary thing. Still a lot of games left.

[Darius Butler]

They tackle better.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, actually they don't really do anything.

[Pat McAfee]

It was all bad. It was all bad.

[John Smith]

Sauce didn't play good.

[Pat McAfee]

I saw he did a jersey swap with Alec Pierce because Cincinnati. Yeah, that was pretty cool to see.

[Gumpy]

The coup de gras too though. You see that tweet going around, that's you just. You assume like, okay, this is a Barry McCocker tweet when it shows Rogers win percentage with the jets compared to Zach Wilson and some of these other guys. I mean, are you kidding me?

[Pat McAfee]

272 or something like that? Yeah, just like lower than Donner Darnold. Lower than Zach Wilson.

[Gumpy]

Crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

I think you put Joe Flaccos up there if you want. I think it's lower than that.

[Gumpy]

Casta Verde.

[Pat McAfee]

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who Connor I think does have. He's a man who beat the hell out of jets for a long time. Yeah, was a Jet for a little bit. Ladies and gentlemen, the greatest coach of all time. Greatest general manager of all time, Bill Belichick. Coach. Tough one, tough one for Navy this weekend, but nonetheless, shout out to America this jet.

[John Smith]

Yeah, well, yeah, lost the quarterback and that was tough. But yeah, head coach suggest twice undefeated, unscored on.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. I don't know if they have you in the hall of Fame over there. They certainly should.

[John Smith]

No, no, I'm not saying. I'm just Stating the facts. Undefeated.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, you put the records up, you put this, the percentages up. You put the records up. That's a. These are just facts, Jack. Those are hall of Fame numbers. On the other side, though, Indianapolis quotes. Obviously a team that your Patriots squads had a massive rivalry with for a long time with Peyton, that's a brand new team in there. Now, I don't even know most of the guys that are in there, and I live in the city. If you're one of these teams and you still have hope, you still have chance at a wild card and you're playing good football, what is the messaging to the team you think that Shane Steichen's given to them? Because I think it's them, the Broncos, the Bengals and the Dolphins who are all fighting for that seventh seed. Pretty much, they're in it still very much in front of. What do you think the messaging is to that type of team at this exact time of the season?

[John Smith]

Yeah, keep grinding. Yeah, just keep stringing good days together. Yeah, he had a very exciting game. And I really think, you know, when you've watched Milroy Milroe from Alabama, you see a lot of similarities between Milro and Richardson. Milro is probably a little faster, but that same kind of big, strong kid that can run over people, can run 50 yards, 80 yards for a touchdown, can throw the ball, you know, make all the throws a little inconsistent. But the people like Richardson, they'll probably like Melroe, too. This kid's tough. He's a great kid, too. First one in, last one out. Love his work ethic. There's a lot to like about him.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. In the people that are fighting for that seventh position, obviously quarterbacks are going to have to play great. Let's go to one of them, the Bengals, Joe Burrow, he's playing fantastic. They run into a Chargers team last night on primetime that ends up getting a win when usually they would lose those particular games at the very end. How much do you think Jim Harbaugh helps this Chargers team kind of change their mindset and win these games that normally they would lose?

[John Smith]

Coach no, I think he's definitely changed the culture out there. I mean, honestly, it's the same thing he did at San Francisco and then at Michigan. Just develop a hard nose work, very workman like culture with, you know, a lot of positivity and, but really demand a high work ethic, play good defense, run the ball, don't lose the game and then take advantage of the opportunities to win it. And they, they've done a good job. You know, Cincinnati can certainly move the ball. They had a couple chances at the end of the game there when they, if they had moved it, they probably would have won or been in a position to win and ended up, you know, going three and out and giving the ball back and finally, you know, Chargers score it. Some tough loss for Cincinnati for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, tough loss. Big win for the Chargers, though, especially Coach Harbaugh and Justin Herbert, who we've all been massive fans of, I think, since he came into the league. But now they have a real opportunity, it feels like, because just like you said at San Fran, just like you said at Michigan, Jim Harbaugh makes winners, baby. Go ahead, A.J.

[Adam Schefter]

Coach. The Bills got a big win over the Chiefs, and we're, we're big Josh Allen fans here. And I. Speaking of Anthony Richardson, too, I'm just thinking, if you have a big, physical running back that is not scared to throw his body in harm's way, how do you balance that as a coach? Obviously you want that and you love that competitive nature, but is there any way to, you know, back him off a little bit or somehow protect him or is that something you think that you could, you can be successful for a long period of time doing?

[John Smith]

You talking about backing Josh off?

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Like trying to. Yeah, maybe. Hey, don't, don't throw your head in there so many times, like, yeah, we want you to get those tough yards. But, you know, is there any way, like, how do you balance trying to keep them healthy and also keeping that fire in them?

[John Smith]

Right. I think if you watch Josh, what you'll see, AJ Is him making a lot of those kind of plays in the fourth quarter in a two minute situation or near the goal line or in the red area. He does it when the game's on the line, when, when things are the most important. That's when he's gonna, you know, take banners into his own hands and, and he's a hard guy to stop. So I don't think you can take that out of him. I think that's his competitiveness. We had Cam Newton for a year. You know, Cam, these guys have been doing this their whole life. They just been bigger and stronger, faster and more physical than, than everybody since they were in, I don't know, whatever grade it was. So they're just kind of used to doing this. They still do it. And I think it's going to be hard to just change this, but I think picking the spots is the right thing to do. But, you know, Josh did it here in the fourth quarter again on a fourth and one, and that's when he's going to rise to those occasions, just take matters into his own hands.

[Pat McAfee]

Now, you talked about that fourth going forward on fourth down there, fourth and two for the Buffalo Bills against the Chiefs. I remember I was a part of the game where you go for it on fourth down against Indianapolis Colts because, you know, Peyton Manning and the boys had figured out or whatever, Sean McDermott wasn't going to let that happen. They could kick a field goal there, go up 5. McDermot said, no way. We're not doing this whole thing with Patrick Mahomes again. You think, or what was his mindset?

[John Smith]

Well, I don't know, but it's probably something along the lines of, you know, rather than let Mahomes have the ball on 4th and whatever and one play to win, we've got one play to win here, let's let Josh do it and see what he can do. You know, Pat, when I came to Indianapolis, they always, you know, used to really give me the Bronx cheer. They would boo the heck out of me and call me every name and everything. They hated me in Indianapolis. Then when I went for it on 4th and 2 and we didn't make it ever after that, it was, hey, Coach, good to see you. How's it going? Hey, you know, gonna go for it on fourth down this time. I got a lot better reception after I did that. So indie fans like me because that decision.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, well, get you a nice St. Elmo, Harry and Izzy Steakhouse. You. You had a lot more wins against Colts after that. Oh, yeah, and before that. But I will say that was an electrifying time. Melvin Bullet makes a big time stop. But you came out afterwards and we're like, yeah, I didn't want to give the ball back to Peyton. We're either giving the ball back to Peyton, he's scoring, or we're going to go ahead and control that. And I think you saying that was a huge deal because we all view you as a genius coach, defensive mastermind, but that's just how football goes sometimes. So watching McDermott make that decision yesterday, I think Bill's mafia was pumped up about it. Now in that game, go ahead, db.

[Darius Butler]

Now, I was a rookie DB on that field. We were glad you went for it, too. That was definitely the right decision at that moment. How Peyton had a rolling and to your point, Bill came in the meeting, the team meeting the next day, I believe, and was like, hey, look, I'm gonna make A call what I feel is best for the team. I'm not scared. I never will be scared. And that's what. We moved on from it. But speaking of those moments, obviously Peyton and those great teams that the Colts had, you obviously coach a bunch of great teams as well. It's only one team, one team that has ever gone perfect throughout the regular season, then the playoffs, winning super bowl, the Miami Dolphins, obviously, 1972, you were close. You became the closest to it. Why is it so hard in the NFL when it's only. It's only, you know, 20 games max to go perfect? Why is it has. Why hasn't it been done again since.

[John Smith]

There'S so much. So much equality in the NFL. Every team's got good players, good coaches, and they work hard. So it's. It's tough to do it every week. But look, these two teams are two of the best teams. It was a great, great matchup, heavyweight fight. I thought that the leadership that Mahomes and Allen both gave after the game was really, really impressive. And I think that shows me why these teams are what they are. They both took it in stride. You know, Mahomes is like, we can learn from it and we can move on. Allen's like, it was great, but we haven't beat him in the postseason. That's when it really matters, which is the truth. So I think that these two guys showed a lot of maturity. And you know that, hey, there's a long way to go. The team that wins the next game between these two teams is the one that's going to really matter. Was this a big win for the Bills? Absolutely. Not taking anything away from it, and they deserve to win. But Kansas City is. Somebody's have to go through Kansas City. Somebody's going to have to go through Buffalo in order to get any further. It looks like those are the two. So certainly two of the best teams in afc.

[Pat McAfee]

I appreciate afterwards, we'll do this again. You know, both of them, Pat and Josh. Yes, we'll do this again. We will see you later. And then you talk about the press clippings, too. It's like, well, run organizations that are having a lot of success. Let's stay in the AFC with that exact same thought. Massive rivalry game yesterday. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Coach.

[Boston Connor]

You talked about those two being to the top at the afc and Pat talked about, well run organizations. The Ravens and Steelers, I believe, fall into that category as well. How did. What did you. Was your takeaways from that game yesterday and do you think those two are also going to be there in the end.

[John Smith]

You know, I was being. Two great games. Yeah, of course Baltimore and Pittsburgh, there's, there's no love lost there. And they played like another great job by the Steelers defensively, really limiting the quarterback yardage, limiting the points and just, you know, really playing good football. Got, got a couple turnovers and that was big for him. You know, Henry hasn't fumbled much, but it seems like when you play as Steelers those things are more prone to happen. And they did a good job on, on Lamar certainly got him on the, on the two point play. They're, they're ready for that and you know, just an outstanding, outstanding game. You know, Pittsburgh kind of made it close there with, with Russell's interception in the end zone, which is kind of uncharacteristic of him to make that, you know, mistake. But Steelers played well and they've got a good football team. They know how to win, how to play. And you know, I guess I was a little surprised. You know, you're just so used to seeing Tucker make all these kicks and we know Boswell is really good. He doesn't miss either. But, but you're just used to seeing Tucker make all these kicks and, and he's just not making them this year. And once again that kind of, you know, was, was a big impact in the final score. So hey, if he starts making them, maybe it's a little different story, but it's kind of been that way all year and you know, I'm sure he's working hard to get it back, but just not there yet. Yeah, two good football teams. Two good football teams.

[Pat McAfee]

Great, great football organizations. Great football teams. Obviously great rivalry, which is always good for the NFL. The AFC north kickers as a whole did not do great. Other than Boswell, McPherson's missing as well. D Hop Hopkins missed a 27 yarder after missing a 32 yarder where he was given a mulligan because of a penalty. And that was his second miss of the day. Seems like there's a little bit of tightness on all these guys missing left, Coach. They're all missing left.

[John Smith]

Well, they're getting a block too. Yeah, which is getting a block too.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, good call. Second week in a row with a walk off block. Field goal. Ty has a question.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, Coach, speaking of that, with the whole Bears, packers situation, a lot of people today saying, hey, you know, Lucas Van Ness pushing the pile like that and pushing Carl Brooks and then on top of that, they're all over the center. No, no flag Is called. It stands, the packers win. When you look at that play, do you think, did the packers do that by the letter of the law as it's written in the rule book, or should have that been a penalty and a re kick?

[John Smith]

You know, it's a tough one. You know, they've all. Most made it illegal to block a field goal. I'm surprised that they haven't passed the rule where you're not allowed to cross the line of scrimmage like they had in the Pro Bowl a few years back. You can't overload, you can't jump, you can't push, you can't hit the center. It's so hard to block a kick that, I mean, I don't know if we're going to start. I don't know. It's just frustrating because that used to be such a great part of the game and kicks weren't automatic. And, you know, going back in. In the days when, you know, those guys could jump over the line of scrimmage and block kicks and, you know, you had guys like, you know that the Minnesota and teams like that that were blocking eight, nine, ten kicks a year. You know, you just. It's so hard now. And even kicks like this, you know, it really needs to be a little low in order to get it. You know, most of these balls get up so fast that honestly, we would have plays in practice where we would let the defender go through almost untouched, really untouched, and still couldn't block a good kick because the ball just had so much rise on it that he just couldn't get it. So. But look, we see how important every single job is when you walk out of the field, whether you're the left guard, the right tackle, the right end, the snapper, or whatever it is. Like, if you don't do your job on that play, there's a chance it's going to cost you. And, you know, we saw it last week. We saw it in a Giants game against Seattle. Got another field extra point blocked yesterday at New England, which kind of changed the dynamics of that game a little bit, you know, and so, yeah, yeah, they, they're. They're. They're not making them as much as they did earlier in the season. And those block kicks have continued to go through the year.

[Pat McAfee]

What was the conversation, Gov? They wanted to thin the uprights, remember? They didn't want to.

[John Smith]

Yeah, it was too easy for the kickers at the start of the year.

[AJ Hawk]

Remember?

[John Smith]

Let's make it impossible to kick.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Long season, man, you got muscles that are operating there. Long season, a lot of reps. Hopefully some of these guys, and I mean this in the most positive way, are tweaked. Something's twice tweaked. That's why they're missing. And it's not just they've lost their technique completely because like this Tucker stuff. I'm baffled, coach. Just like you. Whenever I see. Because he was dead center, perfect up and down flight pattern, and that thing was flying perfectly. Never undercut it, never, never hit it too fat. He was a perfect ball striker for what, 12 years, however long it's been. And then all of a sudden it just changes. I don't know how that works.

[John Smith]

The ball didn't move. It just. It always went straight. It didn't move. It didn't have any curve or hook or anything to it. But look, we know it's a very, you know, it's, it's a high skill. Yep. And that's right, just a quarter of an inch changes the way that ball goes. And there you go.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And they. I think I read something and once again might have got fake news. McCaught here. Tucker maybe change kickoff stuff this off season because maybe he had to make some more stuff. I don't. I don't know what it is. I hope, I hope he figures it out. Hey, Tuck. Come on, Tuck. Come on, baby. Full quote. He said it was a part of it. He didn't just say that. Now, Boswell goes six for six on the same surface. Three from 50 plus. Yeah. So people are going to obviously exploit that. But Tucker wasn't making it. He was just adding all the things that could. Tough job. And he's a goat. And they're talking about McPherson over there in Cincinnati. They're like, this guy needs to get the hell out of town. They just paid him. Yeah. This guy hasn't really met wrist. It's like Nadi, you're four misses away from your fan base saying.

[Ty Schmidt]

Do we like this guy?

[Pat McAfee]

Do we really like this guy? I don't know. Con man has a question for you. Coach.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Coach. How do you feel about the job Sean Payton's doing with Bo Nick? So out there in Denver? Obviously they absolutely dismantle the Falcons yesterday. Why doesn't every coach just do what Sean Payton is doing with his rookie quarterback? And do you think that they're going to continue to roll this season and make the playoffs here?

[John Smith]

Well, I think Denver's played really well defensively. Let's start with that. And I think that that's been a Big. A big asset for the entire football team, especially the quarterback. Look, there's no better feeling for the quarterback than to know that if we don't turn the ball over, we're going to get it back. We don't have to go out and score 47 points to win that we can count on our defense, and that's a good thing. Sean's a great coach. He does an excellent job of attacking defenses and, and mixing up personnel, but obviously Nix is really a smart guy. He has a lot of experience, you know, a full college career, and has adapted very well to the adjustments. You see him changing things, the line of scrimmage and getting people in the right place and all that. So his experience and his poise. But if he just doesn't go out there and, you know, make a lot of mistakes, they can win with, you know, 20 points, 24 points. They don't have to go out there and score, you know, 49. So take what's there. Take the positive plays. I think Sean really should, you know, be in the running for whatever executive of the year, whatever you want to call it. I mean, to play with, you know, a team that's whatever, 30% under the strength based on a salary cap and the dead money that they had to carry. Like, they don't even have a full team here. And, you know, from a salary cap standpoint, but these guys are playing really well. And, you know, they're in a tough division, but seems like they're getting better and they're good on defense. They're good on defense. I know they had a tough day last week, but overall, this has been a good defensive football team. They didn't do well against Baltimore, but they played pretty well all season.

[Pat McAfee]

Great defense, Bo. Nick seemingly made for the Sean Payton offense. Yeah, you go back to some of his organ tape, it looks a lot like what they're doing here with the Denver Broncos. Now, the first couple weeks, obviously there was some time, and then there was that Ferris Bueller comment, but it was like these two seemingly match made in heaven. Just like he told us on draft night after you reached out to Sean Payton to join us. He loved him from the jump. How important is that? Or is that kind of overblown, you think?

[John Smith]

Well, I just think that he was a good fit and, you know, he didn't throw the ball down the field very much at Oregon statistically, but when he did, he was. He was productive with it. And I don't think it's an issue of arm strength or anything like that. It's just something that he wasn't asked to do a lot, so. So he had a high completion percentage, which he still does. He's a pretty good decision maker, and that's gotten better. And certainly he's matured a lot through the year. He's gaining a lot of valuable experience, but really helping the team operate the way Sean wants it to. And Sean runs a tough offense. He does. They substitute almost on every play. They change formations a lot. They don't repeat plays. They repeat concepts, but not plays. There's a lot for the quarterback to do to get things organized cleanly, and it seems like Nix is doing a good job of it, and I'm sure Sean is, you know, adding to it as we go. He didn't give him everything at once, but it's a pretty smooth operation in terms of, you know, lack of false start penalties, delay games and bad formations, things like that. That they're just. They're clean and that, you know, that puts a lot of pressure on the defense when they operate like that.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a massive conversation around a rookie quarterback, too. Like, hey, handling it all. You know, handling it all, moving it forward, getting better each week. Week. It's been fun to watch the Bo Nicks experiment with Sean Payton, you know, because they almost got into it on the sidelines. Was that four weeks ago. They have a little moment and he.

[John Smith]

I mean, thank you. That's all right.

[Darius Butler]

Thanks. Shotgun. Like, I know Sean loved it.

[Pat McAfee]

He came out. It was like, you got a little. He got a little fire. Yeah. Caused him in the office the next day.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You got a little energy, huh?

[Darius Butler]

It's a Bill's point. He played a lot of football in college and played for different systems, different, you know, different players, different coaching styles. So well rounded coming in even I think one of the safeties for the. For the Falcons. Talk a little about his extended college career. So for him to show up like.

[AJ Hawk]

That, I love it.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell, yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Go ahead, AJ Coach. Niners lose a tough game to the Seahawks. And I guess I know, me and myself, like, as a fan, I look at the Niners, and I just assume they're going to win every game they play, because the roster, the firepower they have, everyone just looks so good and. And Shanahan calling the plays. I know they've had some injuries, but when you watch this Niners team, team, what are you seeing out there? Like, what's. What's going on and why have they not really put it. Put everything together yet?

[John Smith]

Yeah, well, A.J. as you know, Every game in this league is not every game, but so many of the games in this league are so close. They come down to a player, too. And, you know, you win them one year, you don't lose in the next year. And you think the gap is an ocean, and it really isn't. It's just a handful of plays. But look, Indian, their season will be defined on what happens, you know, in the last six games of the season. I mean, they're. They're close enough to be in it. They're going to have to play their best football going forward. They've kind of, you know, stumbled around here a little bit and been, you know, disappointing in themselves, I'm sure. But you look at teams like, you know, Tampa and the Giants and their Super Bowls, I mean, those teams barely got into the playoffs, they barely had a winning record and then played their best football when it. When it really mattered.

[Pat McAfee]

So.

[John Smith]

So I think the 49ers are capable of doing that, but obviously they have to do it, and they just haven't consistently done it. But they've lost some good players in the off season now. I mean, this isn't quite the same team that they had, you know, a year ago or two years ago. They've got a lot of good young players, but they're still obviously putting it together here, and we'll see what happens. They need to get it going, that's for sure. And they know that. That's no secret.

[Pat McAfee]

That NFC west is wild right now has been for, like, the last four or five weeks. It's still, Joel, just right across the board. 6 and 4, 5 and 5, 5 and 5, 5 and five. Everybody's still very much in it for a home playoff game. Who's going to make it out of there or whom? He's going to make it out of there. Go ahead.

[John Smith]

Keep your eye on those Cardinals. I mean, they've quietly, you know, having a really solid year. Murray's playing well. The running game is good with Connor. You know, offensive line doesn't look good on paper, but they're productive. And. And they've been playing well defensively. You know, coach done good job down there with the defense, so it'd be interesting to see how this plays out. But again, they're all right there. It'll be a question of who plays good from here on, not who played good. You know, in the first 10 games, it's a wash at that point. It's. We'll see what happens in the last seven.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's move to Tonight, Coach, there is a man in cash. You'll be on in the first half. First quarter, Jim Gaffigan will also join the Manning cast. And then in the third quarter, the last guest will be J.J. watt. J. Watt fresh off a appearance in Buffalo that those people will be talking about forever. Texans favored by seven in Jerry World. Nico Collins back for the Houston Texans. Cooper Kush starting for the Dallas Cowboys. What do you expect from this evening and how do you think this Cowboys team responds to all of the noise that is currently happening without their starting quarter back?

[John Smith]

Well, those things are always tough to measure, Pat. As you know internally in teams, sometimes the teams respond, you know, real positively or real negatively to those out exterior comments and kind of what the outside thinks the team state of the team is. It could be quite different than what the perception is. But in the end, I think defensively, you know, Coach Zimmer is going to challenge the Houston offensive line. They certainly had their issues all year with, with pass protection and inconsistencies, getting picked inside and blitz pickup and all that. And I think whichever, honestly I think whichever team can get ahead is going to have a big advantage. Cowboys have had trouble on their offensive line too. I think that's going to be a tough matchup for them against the Texans. So I think whichever team can, can get off to a good start and can play from ahead will have a big advantage on the other one. Running the ball would help both offenses, but we'll see how well they're able to do it if, if the defenses are, are more than what they're matched for.

[Pat McAfee]

You think C.J. is going to stay up right here? You talked about Zimmer question or attacking that offensive line. How do you think they'll be able to respond to Zimmer attacking the offensive line?

[John Smith]

Well, I think the Texans have had trouble with that all year. They've had this goes all the way back to the Baltimore game last year in the playoffs they've had, you know, blitz issues against, against Minnesota, against Green Bay, against the jets, you know, and the same thing with a lot of the inside stunts in there with pick games and picking the center, picking the guard. They've had a lot of trouble with that too. And in the games they lost that showed up a lot and it hurt them. So we'll see, we'll see how. I'm sure Zimmer will try to do that, which that's part of his package anyway, so it's not like he's got to come up with anything new. But we'll see whether the Texans can handle it better than they have in the game. Games that they've lost. It's really been an issue for them against the Jets, Minnesota, I mean, Green Bay was a competitive game that they lost, but still it was the same issues. So I think they're going to keep seeing those until they can show that they can handle them. Now, Stroud does a good job of getting out of some trouble, no doubt about that. But still it's, you know, overall it's an issue.

[Pat McAfee]

Got to put the fire out, you know, and if not, just keeps on happening. We'll put on ESPN2 this evening. Get smarter whenever you're alongside Peyton and Eli. We appreciate you so much, coach. Have a great one.

[John Smith]

All right, thanks. Have a good week. See you next week.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, Bill Belichick. Are they gonna be able to protect C.J. i haven't really thought about tonight's game that much. You know what, at all.

[Adam Schefter]

Get the ball out of your hand quick. If not, you know, have not thought.

[Pat McAfee]

About it at all because how awesome yesterday was. And then I saw what the night's game was and I was like, week?

[Gumpy]

Why?

[Ty Schmidt]

Let's not think about that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you know, like yesterday was awesome.

[Ty Schmidt]

With the prime time game delivering too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Every prime time. And then Thursday. I mean.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly.

[Boston Connor]

You go all the way through, it's.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, this has been an awesome NFL week 11. And then it's like, all right, now you got the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, great. But on the flip side, Houston Texans, C.J. stroud, a lot of question marks. Micah is obviously big in the middle of a lot of discussions that don't involve being a good football player. It's been everything else that has been Micah Parsons conversation on a primetime night in the prime time game against an offensive line that has some, you know, question marks. He could take this thing over. I mean, Micah could take this thing over tonight if he really wanted to silence some shit that was being said about him. So the seven points feels like a lot. How'd the public do this weekend when it came to the gambling against.

[Boston Connor]

So the favorites had a bounce back weekend. The favorites were. What is that, nine and four. So it was a good bounce back weekend for them. The thing that the Chiefs, okay, Packers and Ravens were three of the most bet teams though, so they didn't cover. So it was kind of an average weekend for the public. But I would say the Texans are a tough defensive line. If you're trying to get right as an offensive line, you know, you got Daniel Hunter Will Anderson on one side, Daniko Autry up the middle. I think he's healthy, but yeah, it's a tough defensive line to go up against. If you're the Cowboys tonight.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And if you're the Houston Texans, everything that you have had problems with is right on the other side. Feels like it's almost a good matchup.

[Darius Butler]

I feel like it gotta be seven points.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of points.

[Adam Schefter]

The Cowboys score, though.

[Darius Butler]

That's the question.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Cooper Kush, they haven't had a run game. Really.

[Gumpy]

CDs kind of banged up, but probably going to play.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Pretty good game to really. As we try to. As we try to. Actually not that terrible of a game.

[Ty Schmidt]

Texans might start a little slow because their locker room still smells like Mike Tyson's butt cheeks.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah. Was he. Anyway, now I bet you Jake was in. Who do you think was anyways?

[Ty Schmidt]

I just assumed. Yeah, Tyson was. But that's a good point.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know to your point about Netflix though, figure it out.

[Boston Connor]

It was bad.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of it was bad.

[Adam Schefter]

Mikes were cutting.

[Boston Connor]

It wasn't just above her. Mics weren't working. The people that on the money.

[Adam Schefter]

Ariel did well. Ariel was good.

[Pat McAfee]

Ariel, I love that he gets an opportunity for all these independent things that happen and he is. I think he's supposed to be at those things. Yeah. There was a lot of people there that I was like, how is this.

[Adam Schefter]

It's Rosie Perez. What's her connection again?

[Pat McAfee]

I did not understand that she was awesome.

[Adam Schefter]

She's great. Yeah, she's great. And white men can't jump as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Great at Jeopardy with you. I think things that start with yeah, I believe that was her stupid. Billy was so stupid. But I got her on Jeopardy. So that's great. But the whole. The whole thing, I had a lot of questions like this is. This is what. Netflix is rolling out here. You know, this is. It was their test.

[Adam Schefter]

It was their test run for football.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Boston Connor]

It was a good fight.

[Darius Butler]

They had a good car, you know, leading up into the main event.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Like Serona, man.

[Adam Schefter]

Serrano's cut. I can't believe it didn't fall. That was a nasty cut.

[Pat McAfee]

Congrats to Jake, Paul and the way. And everybody's really happy for him. Yeah, everyone is.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Are they?

[Pat McAfee]

Everybody's really happy. Jake was in the Cowboys locker room. That means Tyson was in where the Houston Texans will be this evening. So you're right. We do wonder if Tyson's cheeks will still be on maybe some of those seats over there. Boys, let's make a scan. Let's get some photos. Maybe rip the leather, get it autographed. Get that thing out there. But I was watching that. I think we're all relatively disappointed because Netflix is getting into sports. We like that they're getting into sports, but you can't be worse than. What was that? What was that one called? Trumbull. What was the one that was happening? Those fights? Trill.

[Adam Schefter]

Triller trailer.

[Pat McAfee]

I felt like a Triller event. Yeah, like, that's what it felt a little bit. Your Netflix, like, what the hell? And they're getting Monday Night Raw. Okay. Every single week. It's like, you guys got a lot.

[Ty Schmidt]

To sort out coming here.

[Pat McAfee]

And like, thank God the WWE were handling the content, you know, so they don't even have to worry about hiring people to run things. But, like, has there been that big of a buffering issue since, like a low budget podcast platform was operating legitimately? That's what I felt like I was watching. I'm like, is this my Internet? And then I go on the Internet, then I go on X. It's like, no, this is Netflix's phone. Yeah. It's like Jerry Jones has built a stadium that's the most connected, the easiest to operate out of. So if you can't get something off the ground in Jerry world, how are you going to be able to do it anywhere else? That. That's.

[Adam Schefter]

How many live events has Netflix had? How many live events have they actually put on?

[Pat McAfee]

Plenty. They've done a lot. They've done a lot of stand up. They had the tennis shit. They did the biggest. Correct.

[Adam Schefter]

This has got to be the biggest, right? At one time.

[Pat McAfee]

Certainly the biggest. And you would assume every next thing is going to be the biggest.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, yeah, I'm not making excuses is for Mike, believe me. You drive down any, any street in the Midwest, you see gigantic, huge buildings that are all like server farms and server factory, where. I don't know if Netflix has them as well, obviously, but you would think they would have some kind of AI equations that would realize, hey, this is what we need.

[Pat McAfee]

So when Amazon was bidding on a bunch of these things, you know, I think they bid on Big Ten, I think they bid on Big 12, I think they bid on NFL. More NFL stuff they got Thursday night. Obviously, a lot of the people that are making those decisions were like, can you even get a game on the air? So then like Thursday Night Football with the NFL with the numbers that are coming in, 13 million, 15 million, and it didn't crash and There was none of that. I think that kind of eased the worries of a lot of people. But like Netflix and Amazon are in that same fang conversation about the top corporations and companies that are happening. So for Amazon to never really have this issue. I don't remember for any of the NFL.

[Gumpy]

Not like that ever.

[Pat McAfee]

And then for Netflix to do it, you just look amateur like that. That's just what you look like whenever it all happens. It's like that was kind of. That was my biggest takeaway is like I'm kind of bummed out that these people are the. The people that's. And they're getting invested in a lot of shit that we are involved in.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And it's like who's. Who's making decisions over there? If there was bombs making this. How do we. How do we get to the point where nobody can see the shit in the sports world everybody wants to see? And you're Netflix. It doesn't make any sense.

[Gumpy]

If there was one thing they should have been prepared for, it should have been the traffic.

[Pat McAfee]

Like they.

[Gumpy]

It's not like they were expecting 20 million people to watch and then all of a sudden 60 million people get in there and it's like, oh, we. Like that should have been the only. And they have it in place already for the most part. Like anytime one of these massive TV shows debuts on Netflix, like people are slamming the. The app and like their servers.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like their.

[Gumpy]

There. There should have been no. And to not to not even think that that could happen. So not having like a. A backup plan where, hey, if this is going to go wrong, like certain people couldn't watch the whole thing.

[Pat McAfee]

I couldn't get in. Yeah. I literally couldn't even get into the fight. It was awful. That's great Netflix. Good job. You'll figure it out. Yeah. Really smart people over there. We assume.

[Boston Connor]

Don't ruin Christmas.

[Ty Schmidt]

Don't screw that up.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't ruin Christmas. Do not.

[Ty Schmidt]

Especially with the Thanksgiving games we got.

[Pat McAfee]

Peacock did an NFL playoff game last year. Imagine if that happened. Happen for an NFL playoff game. I don't even want to get a two minute drive. And I would assume the amount of money that is at Peacock's disposal is a little bit different than the amount of money that is at Netflix's disposal. So go ahead and figure that entire thing out over there. Then. Let's go to Saturday night. Michael Chandler, great to have you back. Great to have you back in an octagon. I know you had been waiting a long time. I think he said 700 and some days since the last time he got in there, there, him and Oliveira doing their thing. And then him ending with a couple backdrops back body drops, trying to break either his spine or his head or his hold on it. And then at the very end, once he lays down for the second time and he taps Charles arm to say like, respect. I thought the ref thought he was going to tap out. Like, I thought he was like, no, no, you're not tapping out right now. This thing's got to go to the distance with the way you've been able to handle this. Iron Mike Chandler is must watch. Always has been, always will be. And he lives by that like that is what he wants to be known as. Even said that in his post fight interview. And then getting to watch the goat do. See, that could be considered a tap there. But instead it was.

[Darius Butler]

I thought it was, yeah, it was.

[Pat McAfee]

Him saying, hey, great fight. But I was like watching in my house, I'm like, holy sh. Don't. You're not. Don't smile. And thank God the ref took some judgment. There was like, yo, are you. Is this a quit or are you just saying great fight? It was clear they were saying great fight through each other, which is very cool. I don't know. I didn't know Chandler could speak Portuguese to talk to Oliveira nonetheless. And then the goat doing his thing against Stipe and geez, a lot of people are saying that wasn't Stipe that we know. Obviously he is older in this whole thing. But just like when you talk about execution, when you talk about just like everything about it, let alone the body flip, the judo toss that he did to Stipe early, where he was just like toying with him, the elbows at.

[Gumpy]

The end of the first round, doing.

[Pat McAfee]

Everything and then obviously hitting the Trump dance to make everybody super pumped. That potentially voted to the opposite direction. That lineup of, oh my goodness. It was Ari Emanuel, I believe Ari Emanuel, who owns the TKO group. And then I believe Kid Rock, Elon Musk. No Donald Trump, RFK Jr. Behind him. Then I think Saudi Arabia, big time player there. And then Triple H is there, Stephanie McMahon's there, the whole lineup there. Dana White has. Hey, everybody. That is currently in the middle of the political conversation universe. Why don't you come to Madison Square Garden? Let's have a good time. The USA chant that radiated through New York City, Madison Square Garden was a beautiful thing. But yeah, whenever you talk about a spinning heel kick to the body landed numerous times. He started early with just some straight ones. And he saw Stipe kind of like a little bit. And you can tell Jon Jones is calculating the entire time. It's weird because he looks here and Stipe looks eyes. So you know, John is like feeling everything. John is like, who's that Russian guy? Federer? Who's the. The Russian fighter? Fed. Fed.

[Darius Butler]

Fedor.

[Adam Schefter]

Fedor.

[Pat McAfee]

Matt Mitre fought Fedor in Maza Square Garden. And he said when he was fighting him, he could tell Fedor was just calculating everything the whole time. Like the distance, the stand. It's like you watch Jon Jones do that throughout the entire fight. He gets a distance check on you. Let me go ahead and check this. It's like a first 15 plays for an offensive coordinator. Jon Jones is just kind of seeing what. What's all possible. And in between rounds, standing, not sitting, just kind of casual. Heaviest.

[Adam Schefter]

Think of mentally. Think of mentally how. What that does to your opponent when you're. When you see that, look at as he's coming at you and measuring and then he's standing like in between round. Like that's what John does to everybody, though. Like, John is an absolute free, pound.

[Pat McAfee]

For pound, greatest fighter of all time. And I appreciate that he has come out in the face of the fans, you know, because on Friday night we asked. On Thursday night, we asked Dana about it on Friday. Hey, Tommy. Everybody wants the winner of this to take on Tommy Aspinall, you know, for a unified heavyweight champ. And Jon Jones goes like, I'm 37 years old, okay? I'm the greatest of all time in this thing. And he almost talked about Tommy being like a splash in the pan. So is every splash in the pan that is a heavyweight, I just is supposed to bend over backwards to go fight. He said, I want to. I want super fights. I want people that have already accomplished a lot in this, that are in the same sphere of me in this whole thing. And if they're gonna have me fight Tommy, I'm gonna need some fuck you money from Dana. And it's like, I think Dana needs to be like, all right, let's do it. Because watching Jon is awesome. Awesome. And it relieves some of my worries about these aliens because I forgot that there's Jon Jones out there who's going to be able to beat the shit out of any of these people or things that come from other places. He is. He's fun to watch, man. He is fun to watch. I couldn't even imagine being in there whenever they shut that door and just being like, all right, now I got.

[Adam Schefter]

He's like an artist he's like an artist, man. Like, how he fights, like, how violent he is and everything he does, he always seems to be in control. He's so calm and collected and then just vicious, man. It's fun.

[Pat McAfee]

It's fun to watch.

[Darius Butler]

Full bag, just so. So many different things, like. And his. His entrance, always electric. Just the confidence. I've seen his family, we know his family seeing him. And like you said, once that cage closes, like, I couldn't imagine, like, just pure violence. Like, when you watch him, I'm just thinking about taking those shots. I saw that kick land, like, oh, my God. Like, you. You don't see heavyweights or even light heavyweight with that type of bag, that type of full arsenal. I listen to the guys after the fight try to explain. They were like, look, we can't even explain. It's not like he's one of those guys that outworks everybody, you know, Last one in the gym, he's. No, he's going to show up, he's going to prepare his way, and he's just going to dominate.

[Pat McAfee]

His brothers are brothers, super bowl champion NFL players, and he's the baddest one of them all ever. And the baddest ever. And it's. I'm 38. He. He's 37. It's been an honor to watch you, brother. No matter what's next. He said, maybe I retire. Maybe I go do these celebrity fights. I just saw 20 million. He said yesterday. You don't think I could. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Aaron Rodgers, Tuesday. Have fun tonight. We'll see you then. Goodbye. That was awesome. But, yeah, those front kicks.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

In the first round to Stipe, like, heavyweight, you know, heavyweight. We're throwing bombs, you know, not normally is there like a. A crafty, you know, exact. So CPE's just standing there and he's got a kick coming to the inside of his leg. Okay. All right. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

So fast, so quick. It happened so quick.

[Pat McAfee]

And there's a kick to his body. Okay. But you can't protect the body because he'll kick that thing right to your ear, too. He did like a question mark kick, too, I think, just to kind of check it early. And.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, my God.

[Pat McAfee]

And Stipe had, like, a little bit of protection, but then Jon Jones immediately was like, oh, he's just leaving his body wide open here. Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

What are you doing right here? You know, these elbows are coming, like, what are you doing if you're on the bottom?

[Pat McAfee]

Those elbows have always been a part of the Jon Jones Masterclass. I chat. I chatted about it. I don't know who he fought in Baltimore. I should figure it out by the amount of times I've told the story, but it's like he literally just held the guy's forehead and just for three, four rounds, just with this guy. And then, boom, elbow right to the guy's face and then. Right. That one right there. There. Those little front kicks. That's all because Stipe, scared to death he's going to kick him in the head. So John is literally just kind of toying with his food here. Just kind of let me beat him down a little bit. And the. The strikes, whenever they put that up, obviously it just wet. Far outweighs the other. But, like, steep. A legend. We appreciate you going in there, brother.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

We appreciate everything you've done. I'm done. I think he actually. You see his hand going tire right there? All right, dude, I'm. It's over. I can't. I can't breathe. He said, I'm 40. I'm done. I am retiring. And thank God. I think he said afterwards. And obviously, it's big payday for Stipe. Not as big as, obviously, one of these celebrity fights, which a lot of people are bringing up. And Jon Jones is utilizing his potential leverage in it all, as he should. You do whatever. Yeah, I thought Jon Jones was able to go create his own fight. Like, I actually was on a big run about that. I think it was when our show began.

[Adam Schefter]

I remember that. Yeah, I used to talk about that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Like, Floyd Mayweather is able. Able to put on his own fights. Floyd May was there to put on his own fight. So he owns pay per view, owns the tickets, everything like that. Normally you need a group of people to be able to do that. Ufc, obviously, look at our fight card. This is our main event, obviously. But boom, boom, boom. Jon Jones was at the point where he could have been selling out arenas by himself. He could put on super fights and own the entire pay per view and people would be interested. Like, that's the type of guy that Jon Jones has been. So him coming back. I think the first fight was 230. This one, obviously middle of the second round, everybody on earth knows he still got it. And if you wanted to box, I think for sure, I think he'd be able to figure that one out pretty quickly if he had to. And his name is big enough, people would want to watch. Business wise, it's going to be good for him. But he is. He's awesome. Yeah, you Talk about his family. Arthur Jones, obviously teammate of ours, friend of ours. Nice to see him. He looked happy.

[Darius Butler]

Look good too.

[Pat McAfee]

He looked good. Looked happy.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Moving. Look at. He was moving. Moving. Chandler. We saw him. He looked good.

[Ty Schmidt]

He looked good.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. It was good to see him out and about. Dad looked phenomenal. It was like the entire Jones family had a great Saturday night. And Madison Square Garden looked electrified. Yeah, awesome. I potentially had an invite to go. Was not able to make it while I was watching. I should be in there right next.

[Adam Schefter]

To kid.

[Ty Schmidt]

Secretary of the liquor cabinet.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, he made it.

[Pat McAfee]

Imagine if I look at him and go, well, imagine that picture ball with the ball. Diggy said the boogie. Said up jump the boogie. And he goes ball with the ball. Could you. My name is he. Him being right in the mid McDonald's afterwards. Wild. Wow, that's crazy. I did see a couple quarter pounders with cheese lovers in there. They have better pallets than everybody else they know. My dad works in B2B marketing. He came by my school for career day and said he was a big roas man.

[Bill Belichick]

Then he told everyone how much he.

[Pat McAfee]

Loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friends still laugh at me to this day.

[Bill Belichick]

Not everyone gets B2B. But with LinkedIn you'll be able to reach people who do. Get a hundred dollar credit on your next ad campaign. Go to LinkedIn.com campaign to claim your credit. That's LinkedIn.com campaign terms and conditions apply.

[Pat McAfee]

LinkedIn, the place to be.

[Bill Belichick]

To be.

[Pat McAfee]

It's awesome. That's A.J. hawk. The talks to tables here at Boston Conner. And That's. Hi, Schmidt. One half of the Hammer Cowboys. A.P. tony's here. Nine year NFL vet, host of everything. D.B. good, D bad. Darius J. Butler's here. Looking super cool. You know what would be? You know, it'd be super cool. We'll say if I was a tight end, okay. At fiu. And on one particular Sunday for the Miami Dolphins, I go for a historic amount of yards and touchdowns in Miami Dolphins history.

[Ty Schmidt]

That'd be cool.

[Pat McAfee]

While scoring one of the two touchdowns that I scored going over 100 yards. Being the first time I'd ever do that. I actually, in celebration, I throw the football up into the air. Holy. I'm so pumped. Guess what? That ball lands where? With my family. It's in the States. No. Yeah. Sounds like a storybook, right?

[Gumpy]

It does.

[Pat McAfee]

Movie? No, it's this guy's life. Ladies and gentlemen, tight end for the Miami Dolphins, John New Smith. How you doing, man?

[AJ Hawk]

Going on, guys. How we Doing, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Congrats on the historic day down there, brother. I hope you feel good. I hope you're excited taking it in. Now let's start talking about everything happening in Miami. Okay, so we had the opportunity to see you guys play the Indianapolis Colts without Tua, and then obviously we watch you guys in prime time with Tua and with Mike McDaniel cooking. What is the difference with Tua as the quarterback with that offense versus anybody else seemingly? Jonu?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, man, I would just say, you know, simply, just to simply put it, it's tailor made for him, you know what I mean? You know, Tua, man, you know who he is who he is for a reason. You know, I've alluded to that, you know, plenty of times. And you know, those guys that stepped in, they came in, did a great job and, you know, you know, we got, you know, we were able to, you know, come in there and continue to establish our offense. But, you know, he is who he is for a reason, man. And that guy's. He deserves all the credit in the world, man. Like I said yesterday in the interview, you know, you got the best quarterback in the planet, man. So excited to be in the system with him and just watch him go out there and, you know, make the plays that he makes, man. It's sight to watch.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's watch. Let's talk about the offense that is tailored to him because we watched you go absolutely bananas yesterday. Why is this offense perfect for you? Seemingly. Obviously you're with the Titans, the Falcons, the Patriots. Now you're with this Dolphins team. Why do you feel so comfortable in this offense? And is it because you are a freak athlete, Jonu? Is that the reason why?

[AJ Hawk]

Man, Mike just does a great job of getting guys the ball, you know, utilizing our skill set, you know, just, you know, getting guys the ball in space. And you know, when you got monsters like, you know, Jalen and Tyreek, man, you know, that gives you. It gives any. It would give anybody, man, the opportunity to have a lot of space down below and just go to work. So, you know, you got guys like that that's going to draw a lot of attention. And, you know, we got a lot of playmakers that will take advantage of that, man. So this is a perfect fit for me. It's like, you know, match made in heaven, man. So, you know, just continue to try to, you know, carve this thing out and continue to, you know, take this thing head on and keep going on the street.

[Pat McAfee]

Dolphins fans are thinking the same exact thing you are about the match made in heaven. Gumpy came all over his pants. Four times yesterday. You were two of them. That's awesome. Go ahead, aj.

[Adam Schefter]

Johnny. One time when Gumpy was busting big time, you. We just showed it was four, fourth quarter and you can see you come off the line and you look back at two right away you knew like, hey, these guys, something's up. They busted this coverage right here. You see you. What was, did you have it? What was the design route and what exactly did it happen on this play?

[AJ Hawk]

Nah, nah, that was, that was off schedule. That was just me, you know, using my instincts, just playing ball, you know, hoping that, you know, two was thinking the same thing. And, you know, we got away with it right there. We know that, you know, you know, it's not too many plays that you could, you know, go off script in the league and they turn into, you know, 50 plus yard touchdowns. But, you know, it was a big, big, A big play in the game. A big moment for us, you know, to continue to get that thing up to more possession. So, you know, the red seas part of man, you know, just play ball and just found the open space and tool felt me.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's not talk about that touchdown. That goes off script. You do your own thing. The other one, you throw that ball up into the air.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay, man, this is crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

This is crazy. Okay, so you did not do this on purpose. I assumed you were just so athletic that you made it look like, like you weren't trying to do what you were doing. But this lands with your family, right?

[AJ Hawk]

Not only with my family, with my oldest son, man, that him right there, right there, that's picking up the ball on the floor. That's my oldest son right there, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, my God.

[AJ Hawk]

Oldest son and my two nephews. That's. That's on the right and to the left of them, man. This is. I didn't even know they were sitting over there. Had no idea. I think I found out later they was probably in the second half that I, that I saw them, you know, they. Yeah, he was calling my name. So I mean, I realized then. And then later in the fourth quarter, one of the guys came over to me and was like, yo, my girl is sitting over there. And they said, your family caught the ball. So I was like, what? That's, that's crazy, man. And then literally after the game, they come and tell me that it dropped in my, my oldest son's lap, literally. And that's him right there, man. Like, I'm glad we got the footage. Because nobody would ever believe us, you know, Nobody would ever believe us.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's not a movie. That's a storybook type thing. You just, you lost your shit. You were so jacked up. Throw the ball.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, had an out of body experience right now, man. And just, just chuck the ball up and, and literally just, just landed in my son's lap, man. I, I, you know, listen, man, God makes no mistakes. That was, that was, that was God's Thomas right there for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, man, that is awesome. Hey, that's beautiful. Hey, universe. Hey, is this team of destiny?

[Ty Schmidt]

Could be.

[Pat McAfee]

Wait, wait a minute, hold the phone. Especially on the same day where a team who was undefeated loses, you know. So the Miami Dolphins continue to be the only team that has ever gone undefeated. Then he scores a touchdown, throws that thing in. Then he has another touchdown late that cements the win. Are the Miami Dolphins a team of destiny?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, possibly.

[Pat McAfee]

Massive Miami Dolphin fan from south Florida. He has other teams too.

[Darius Butler]

Darius always South Florida key. Always going to be a Dolphins fan and to be a team of destiny. So obviously one thing to have great play on the field, but off the field the vibes are definitely important, especially with your quarterback. Want to show you this clip. Obviously you were there, but tour crash of your post game press conference. Didn't want to ask you. Obviously balancing coaching and playing and then how's your squad doing?

[Pat McAfee]

How does it translate with you being.

[Bill Belichick]

On the field to the coaching mindset with the kids?

[Pat McAfee]

How do the kids look at you?

[Darius Butler]

Do they look at you as, oh.

[Pat McAfee]

Like that's, that's just coach, like he's supposed to do that or do they look at you when you have a game like this, it's like, dude, that's our coach, man.

[AJ Hawk]

I say this, I had. So it's funny to accept that I had my guy, my pups come in, man, we just won two championships. My seven year. Milan, you team. We came in Saturday, Saturday's walk through yesterday and I, and I brought him back because we just won two championships. So I wanted to show them around, bring her on the guys. But it is, you know, obviously.

[Darius Butler]

Okay, so you answered the question of how the squads do obviously very good. But how is that balancing during the season?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it's crazy, man. It's coaching. It's a big commitment, I'll say that, man. It's, you know, demand some long hours. It's funny because, you know, when Mike saw that, you know, I had all my guys, all of my kids at the walk through, man, he was like, when do you have time to coach? You know what I mean? And literally, like, it was, you know, we had to get it in. Like, I would leave after Wednesday's practice, you know, Pat, you play, man. You know how, like, Wednesdays are, you know what I mean? So you know, you too, A.J. you know what I mean? Like, you guys know, man, like, you leave after Wednesday practice and you want to get home, you probably watch film you in bed by nine, ten, whatever it is. And I'm literally heading to another football field to do some more, you know, X's and O's, man. So, you know, man, shout out to the 7 you9 U. Optimus Cooper City Dolphins team got it done. You know what I mean? Won a championship in both. Both age groups. So I'm excited about that.

[Pat McAfee]

No big deal. The Optimist Dolphins. Is that. Is that their name? You said the Optimist? Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Cooper City Optimus. Yep. Cooper City Optimus. Yeah. The team name is the Dolphins. Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Cooper City Optimist Dolphins rolling out there. What type of coach are you? A hard ass out there? We a hard ass, man.

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, when I need to be. When I need to be. I try to be a players coach. I try to be a player's coach. I understand, man. You know what I mean? As a player, I understand. But kids this age, man, you kind of got a little beat. You got it. You got to be a little bit more hands on just because the attention span can slip a little bit, you know what I mean? So. But they listen, man, they did a great job of differentiating, you know, Coach New and John New Smith, the tight end, you know what I mean, for the Miami Dolphins. That's why we won two championships, man.

[Pat McAfee]

So can I get done? Can I get an autograph? Yeah, go run and then I'll get it on the other side. I'll. Giving back to the community is obviously a beautiful thing, especially the football world. And if you have a wealth of knowledge, sharing it with the younger group, that is beautiful. Connor has a question about coaching.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, excuse me, Johnny. Coach. Johnny. Coach. When, you know, you played for New England and Bill Belichick, and then obviously Mike McDaniel comes into the league and he coaches a little differently, you could say, than everybody else. What is it like playing for a guy like that? And does he ever say things in that slow kind of the odd surfer guy demeanor, and you're like, how the hell did I go from Bill Belichick to this guy? Because this is not how what I've been used to in the past, I'll.

[AJ Hawk]

Say this man is definitely night and day. It's definitely night and day. You know, Mike is Mike, Bill is Bill. Two different human beings that come from two different places and have two different outlooks. Both great coaches. You know, I would say that's the one similarity that they have, is they're both great coaches, but they go about it in different ways, man. You know, I play for, obviously, you know, one of the greatest coaches of all time, if not the greatest coach of all time. Much respect to Coach Belichick. And, you know, now with, you know, the young. The young phenom Mike McDaniel, man, he's a heck of a coach, man. You know, personalities is, like I said, man, it's night and day. It's night and day, man. You know, just Mike. Mike's all about, you know what I mean? You know, setting an easygoing environment, you know what I mean? Coming there and, you know what I mean? The players feel at home, you know what I mean? I think that's kind of where the league is just going nowadays, man. You know what I mean? I think that's just direction it's going, and guys are winning this way. And Bill approached a little bit more militant, you know what I mean? But it worked for him, and he did a great job doing it, man. And it was all ball. And, you know, that's just the two differences between those guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, pretty. Pretty big. Pretty vast differences. Feels like if you got to go from one place to the next, that would be the one going in there. Obviously, both have had success. One of them has won so many. Could you imagine the Miami Dolphins winning the Super Bowl? John, I don't know how closely you have followed the Miami Dolphins history. We got a guy in the back who's one half of the Hammer Cowboys. Bubba Gumpino, Dolphins fan, buddy, everything. And every time you guys do anything positive or win, this guy thinks you're winning the Super Bowl. Know that you got people out there that are living and dying with every single play. Is that an accurate depiction? Gumpy, spot on.

[John Smith]

We've been waiting for a tight end like you since Mike McDaniel came on. You're perfect for the system. You and Clayus Campbell. So thankful you're on our team. Feels like you guys really kind of changed the culture in my Miami this year, man.

[AJ Hawk]

I appreciate that. My God. Much love, man. Much love. Appreciate you, my guy.

[Pat McAfee]

You like Kaleyos? You ever walk up to him and go, jesus Christ, you are so tall? Do you say that? Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

I'll say this, man, Calais, is one of my favorite teammates in all the sports that I played. One of my favorite teammates in all the sports that I play. He. To me, I think I said this the other day. He's like the LeBron James in the NFL right now. You know what I mean? Just as far as his age and his production that he brings to the game. Still playing at a high level. I mean, a guy who's a thousand years old, he's a dinosaur.

[Pat McAfee]

This guy's an actual dinosaur.

[AJ Hawk]

Literally, man, one of my favorite teammates of all time. The best leader I've been around. Good dude, good person, you know, deserves everything that's coming to him. And, you know, it's guys like that, man, when you come in here and, you know, your season could be looking kind of cloudy, you know what I mean? You like, man, this guy's like that.

[Darius Butler]

I'm.

[AJ Hawk]

You know, I'm gonna go through a brick wall for you know what I mean?

[Pat McAfee]

Hell, yeah, Calais. Way to go, buddy. Dinosaur. Yeah. Bones, body, age, years in a league. He's a dinosaur.

[Ty Schmidt]

Almost bought the punt.

[Pat McAfee]

On the punt.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

On punt. Safe. Calais Campbell is out. Almost goes through his arms. Guy would have had a blocked punt. Talk about sacks last week. Forced interception. Then he would have a blocked punt the next week. Year 17, given that, I mean, absolute talk.

[AJ Hawk]

I had the pleasure to be with him last year in Atlanta, too. So it was, you know what I mean? This is my second year back to back with Calais, you know what I mean? We played against each other. We battled a lot. I was in Tennessee. He was in Jacksonville, you know, when he was over there winning defensive MVPs and, you know, going to championships and, you know, so we battled a lot, man, but I'm glad he on this side now.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, man, Walt's paid man of the year as well. I mean, just everything about Calais is awesome. Happy to hear. Just like, your point. Point. Everything that's coming to him right now, he is very well deserving of. Now, let's talk. Let's go back in time a little bit. You talk about one coach being a little militant, one being a little bit more easygoing. I think one coach would fit in well at a stadium and another would not fit as well. This is Tone Diggs with the question.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, I think your current coach would fit in a little bit better at Mr. 305, Mr. Worldwide's Pitbull Stadium down at FIU. Now that FIU's got that Pitbull money, what is it, two, three years before national championship.

[Pat McAfee]

Championship's coming? Good question.

[AJ Hawk]

Yes. It's coming soon, man. You know, we got. You know, that's. We got it. We gotta. We gotta, you know, get some. Get some more. These. Is this local South Florida talent rolling through, man. We got a lot of talent in our backyard, man. We got to get some of these kids, you know, staying home, you know what I mean? So we got to get Pitbull to come and sponsor the stadium for them to stay home. Let's do it. You know what I mean? A lot of talent back here, man. So we got it. We got to wreck them all up.

[Pat McAfee]

You're. I think that is the greatest recruiter you could have in South Florida, right? Pitbull. Oh, man.

[Darius Butler]

One of those.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Pitbull.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

A house Ty Hilton built. You know, former teammate Ty's a beast.

[Pat McAfee]

He supposed to go to West Virginia. Chose FIU over wvu.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, yeah. Another baller right there. Ty. We got. We got a couple dogs, man, that came out for sure. Got a couple dogs that came out that far. You gotta get some more, man. Gotta get some more.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, Pitbull needs to open that pocket up. Yeah, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Come on, get out to backstage passes. Maybe he goes from.

[Pat McAfee]

I watched his documentary back whenever he had the cornrows. He was doing a whole thing.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Now Mr. Worldwide, like switch it up. If you guys are gonna want to win. Pitbull's gonna have to open up not only performances. He's gonna have to be banging.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, that's. But I mean, like, you know, you get. I mean, yeah, obviously pit bull, you know, but we got. Man, we in Miami like what, 18. You bring your 18 year, 18 year old to Miami? You like, man, listen, where you else. You want to go? You want to go to Nebraska? Where you want to go? Like you want to go to, you know. You know, saying like the middle of nowhere, Arkansas. You know what I mean, man? So it's. You know what I mean, man? I don't. You know, we gotta. We gotta figure out ways to.

[Pat McAfee]

Your boosters. Your boosters actually getting them private planes to fly to those cities like in December, January, where you want. You want to go to Nebraska? That's the second world. Let's. All right, let's fly up there right now. Let's just drop in. Let's just drop in and see what's going on. Then we'll come back and then you got pit bull coming out. I mean, there's a whole opportunity there. All right, John, good luck. The rest of the way. We appreciate your time.

[AJ Hawk]

Hey man, appreciate you guys man. Thank you for having me.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, fresh off a two touchdown day, historic tight end for the Miami Dolphins, John Smith. First tight end Dolphins history with at least 100 yards and two scores in a game. His 57 yard touchdown late in the fourth quarter was the longest play by Miami tight end since 2020. So I believe it has happened before. That was off script. Hey yo, yo, yo, yo.

[Adam Schefter]

Look at him. He's looking right away like oh, these guys do not have me accounted for.

[Pat McAfee]

That's eight years in the league right there. Yeah, you know that's the type of.

[Adam Schefter]

Credit to Tua for getting back to him though, for real.

[Darius Butler]

That's what could have missed that. And since he been coming back them off script, off platform, you know, second reaction type plays that you didn't see a bunch of before and then you were like okay, once he's coming back off the concussion, definitely more throwaways, probably just falling down. But he's been playing fearless out there.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's talk about a couple of the teams we have not chatted about. The Vikings defense dominant yet again. They beat the Titans. Will, that was fun to watch though. So far.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he's the best man.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't get to watch the whole game, but I was just following in clips. Will Levis is electrifying.

[Adam Schefter]

He leaves it all out there, man. He leaves it all on the field.

[Pat McAfee]

He certainly does. And in Nashville they have an L against this Vikings team. Even though you know, 16:3 becomes a one score game in the second half. Congrats to Sam Darnold and the Vikings continuing to win. Congrats to doing that. They were a good squad. They played the Colts really well a couple weeks ago. Everybody forgot, hey listen, Minnesota Vikings aren't the same old crop. Vikings, that NFC north course is producing good football outside of sure that one Chicago, but they could have two more wins if it wasn't for literally the last second place that are like very slim to non happenings.

[Ty Schmidt]

Kind of why it's bad football.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly. Feels like the football gods event kind of looked down at them and said nah, Hail Mary off a tip from your own guy and then a blocked field goal. Do you see them talking to this morning? It felt like it was everybody in uniform and they all had big brains so I'm not going to judge them. But felt like they wanted the Chicago Bears to run a couple more plays. They had 30 seconds left, they had a timeout. They get in the field goal range, they're in Field goal range. They continue to move in the field goal range. It's a 46 yarder there. 30 seconds left. A lot of people were wanting them to maybe run and get a couple more yards because his percentage under 45 yard field goals versus 46 yards 3ft longer, vastly different. And he gets it blocked after a low kick. And they certainly blew up the long snapper and had a pusher in there. And I guess the Bears a few weeks back were actually called it for this. Somebody tweeted me during the when I went to the bathroom. They're like, check back two weeks ago against Cardinals what the Bears got called and it was just one guy over the shoulder of the long snapper, let alone three dudes getting pushed over the shoulders of the long snapper. So the lack of consent, consistency, I think is probably what people are going to complain about. But nonetheless, a winning team gets a win, a losing team gets a loss. What are your thoughts on how that ended for your Packers?

[Adam Schefter]

I mean, I was thinking, I was thinking about Z and, and Bears fans because they absolutely, they thought, here we go, we got to win. We beat this packers team. No one thought we could win. And then that happens. But also the rule though, I thought you just can't line up head up on the center. You can line up, offset and get in there.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought, no, I. I think they've changed the rule like four different times. Like, I legitimately think they've changed the rules so much that nobody really knows what's the call or what's not to call. Eberfluous, I said, came out and said he's going to send it into the league. We'll definitely send it into the league. We'll get an email back saying, yep, we change rule that you're not allowed to because they're doing a couple different things now, AJ And I know you're Packer legend here, so you feel like you got to say this, but they were pushing as well.

[Adam Schefter]

So, you know, I don't think that was designed push. I think they kind of fell into the push.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I agree. No, I agree completely. But none of it was lined up as. So I think that would be the Packers. Basacio would say we didn't line up in any of this, but it ends up over to snapper. There ends up being a push that matters because that guy in the front gets like. You literally see him getting whoa. I think he probably in his head's going, whoa, whoa. As if he's like a bull rider. In that entire thing, he gets a block. Great technique, though. Like, if you're going to comment about it. And once again, we do not know what the current. It's been changed so many times. That rule has been changed so many times. I think almost by design. So, like, people could be like, no, that was the old no, you're allowed to. You know, I think if they were to explain it to us, we'd all be very appreciative. But let's say what they did was legal. Let's just say that was the case. You're talking about technique, detail, buy in, you name it, everything in that one particular play to win the game in the biggest moment. I think if I'm packers fan, I'm very pumped about that. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Jacked up. And the crazy part too is the guy who blocked it was coming down like he wasn't even at like the top of his jump. It almost was like, no matter what was going to happen, and Richard Passage already said it, of course, but they were going to block this kick. This is just Bears football because you would assume, like, sure, if that guy gets all the way up there, times it perfectly, like, okay, that's one thing. But I mean, he. He already. He jumped almost a little early to the point where he was falling back down. And I mean, this is just Chicago Bears football now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And Green Bay packers football. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Amen.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, maybe that's Green Bay packers football and it doesn't matter. You know, I guess it does matter, right? Complete opposite. It. All you have to do is get in the trajectory. So the closer to the ball, the lower you got to be, you know, so it's just like. Like the more kick's gotta be a.

[Adam Schefter]

Little bit low, right? It's gotta be a little low, huh?

[Pat McAfee]

Definitely.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, anything Santos can do, or is that just like kind of his. His stroke, like his golf swing, basically.

[Pat McAfee]

Cairo Santos has become like a Chicago Bears kicking legend. And everything about his kicking style I don't think is very, like, Chicago Bearsy conducive. Like, he came up short from 56 against the Colts in Lucas Oil. He's definitely no Robbie Gold, but. Yeah, yeah, but he's done great for you guys, right? 100%. He's done like, very, very well. So I. I got to get the ball up quick, but Basha knew that he doesn't get the ball up quick. And there's some kickers who've made full careers that don't get the ball up quick. But then the op time so quick that they don't have to worry about it. It's like I don't want to say situations are situational but very much so situations are situational. Cuz Cairo I don't think he's ever been known for being like the I'm hitting bombs.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah Bill said he would let guys guys in practice just go straight through. So I'm assuming you know Vinitari or Gustavski like they obviously had a different trajectory where it didn't matter if you got through.

[Pat McAfee]

What's the OP too So like how fast that thing's getting off. Like the, the guys who hit the ball lower normally their ops a little bit faster. So like when Everybody's working at 1, 2, 3 up they're already, it's already, it's gone, it's gone. You know like they utilize that as like an advantage. Like almost is like you're not going to be able in you're not going to be able to move forward enough to get to the point where you can also get your hand up before the ball's off. So the fact that they had that much time to get back there and still get the hand up and get the block, I think that is kind of a conversation piece that hasn't been hit yet. Is the op time. I don't know what it was. Also Cairo said after he said the OP time was absolutely perfect and like all that. So again operation or up time? He said he said operation. So I, I, I thought that so operation would be snap and hold. If the snap was in a good place. Your hold optime is actual how fast it goes.

[Darius Butler]

Were you in Vinny's what was the mark?

[Pat McAfee]

130 is what you're trying to be. If you're under that obviously fast. If you're too far under that you're chaotic. So I bet there's some people that go like one two five. There's some guys that are like one two one. Then there's some like one four one four five. You're asking to get blocked like that is your ass.

[Adam Schefter]

Does it have to do with when you take your step? Who like can you as a kicker can you make that quicker if you it depends on hey I'm some guys I would imagine like to see that thing. I don't know some guys probably start their, their step earlier. Right.

[Pat McAfee]

And what I think Everybody's aiming for 1.3. I think that's what like is just the standard time that has become 8 yard field goal operation, 7 yard field goal operation in college I don't Know what it is. But they have an 8 yard or two. Some colleges do 8 yards instead of 7, which is fascinating. I like that they're doing that. Anything similar to the NFL, but. Yeah, like, 1.3 seconds from ball moving to being K kicked is about standard operating procedure there.

[Adam Schefter]

When do you move? When do you start moving as the kicker?

[Pat McAfee]

It depends. Yeah, it all depends on how long your steps are. Like, Vintary moved as soon as I would lift my left hand to go catch ball. That was like a green light. That was like a green light form. But some guys have shorter steps. So they can kind of wait until balls caught and then they can go, you know, nobody's waiting until the ball set. The balls. If you're waiting until ball set. I mean, blocks blocked for sure, but 1.4 is normally like. Block like that is in that crazy tenth of a second. Yeah, yeah, that's. Everything's close. Like, if you want to slow down a kick and they're actually rushing, you can find somebody in there, whether it's off the edge or something like close. Like in a team meeting or a special teams meeting, if a special teams coordinator wants to find one and says, we're close, we're almost there. Garrett. Every kick, it's like, we're close, close. We're close. It's like, yeah, you're close.

[Adam Schefter]

That's.

[Pat McAfee]

That's kind of the whole thing. So whenever it starts getting blocked, it's like, is it the kick? Is it the operation? Is it the block? Like, everything starts coming into question. But if the op time is slow, like, you got no chance, no matter what it is.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. I mean, that would have been so close if that guy didn't block it. How close? The dudes right next to him were like, could you imagine that? That would be the same conversation? Like, they were this close to blocking. If this guy is just here. Yeah. If you don't get pushed. Yeah, Bingo. If he didn't get pushed forward, actually probably just a really, really close attempt at a.

[Pat McAfee]

Almost got it. You know, that would be the conversation. And that one seems going a little left, too. I don't. I don't know if it's coming back. I don't know what Cairo's ball flight is, but, I mean, that's a great block. Attention to detail. As I take some ibuprofen.

[Boston Connor]

This tooth still hurting.

[Adam Schefter]

It's got to. It's probably hurts worse now, doesn't it?

[Pat McAfee]

It did there for, like, four until, like, this morning. Morning. It hurt worse than before the thing. And I'm like, what did I do? Why did I. Why did I do this?

[Gumpy]

Makes no sense.

[Pat McAfee]

Saturday, I blew out one of the things when I took a bite out of that sandwich. I'm. Everybody's happy. They bring that sandwich up. Yeah. And they're like, look at this sandwich. They put it right in front of me. Normally that would be my bag. Sure. Thanksgiving stuffing was on there. Turkey gravy is big ass bread. I mean, that is right in my wheelhouse. And they panic the camera right to you, waiting for you to eat that. Yeah. It's like, okay, everybody and the. The whole. The restaurant was just staring. What do you think of it?

[Ty Schmidt]

Do it.

[Gumpy]

Good, huh?

[AJ Hawk]

Do it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Come on.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't even know. I can barely open my mouth right now. I got a jaw that's swollen like. I just got a kick from Jon Jones. I'm. I'm slobbering in between taking drinks with this guy. I can't even shut my mouth because of this entire thing. And then, yeah, I bust. I was looking at the peanuts. Give me the these. Give me these, give me these. Look how small these are. Night before, for dinner, we were at an Italian place. I was having to shove this pasta in my mouth side because I couldn't open my mouth. I was getting, like, pasta sauce on my nose and my chin because the entire thing. Hey, why don't you get that sandwich? All right, we have break. Jeez. Just blew out, swallowed some blood. Immediately afterwards was great.

[Darius Butler]

Clean fit.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, Very much.

[Pat McAfee]

So shout out to David Allen on the jacket, the jeans, very comfortable. I don't know the brand. They were relatively expensive, though. Nice.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

He had some real fashion stuff on.

[Boston Connor]

Nice.

[Pat McAfee]

It's because I forgot my jeans. Had to buy them. Classic. Classic situation. They were very nice, very comfortable. I appreciate that. Yeah. And then Shaquille O'Neal shirt. Nice. That's what that was. That's from the Shaquille O'Neal brand. Got that at JC Penney. That was my favorite part of the fit. It was perfect. Yeah, it's a big and tall. Nice. Big. It's so. It's longer. I like. I like longer shirts. And yeah, that's from the Shaquille O'Neal brand. Very comfortable.

[Darius Butler]

Shaq have everything.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, yes, he does.

[Boston Connor]

Everything.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, yes, he does. Yes, he does. Speaking of inside, the NBA has been licensed to ESPN for the 2025, 2026 season. Congrats all parties, man.

[Adam Schefter]

That's awesome.

[Ty Schmidt]

That is huge.

[Pat McAfee]

That is huge news. That is very good news. Their show is being Licensed through espn. Just like our show is licensed through espn. So congrats to whoever negotiated that deal. I think it was somebody at Turner that did that. And. And then in return, there's like 12, 13 big 12 games that ESPN has that maybe don't have a proper prime time slot for that. They're given over to Turner. So in the negotiation, not only they get some football, they get inside the NBA. I assume there is a lot of money exchanged, but nonetheless, Jimmy Pitaro gets a deal done. And now the best show in sports media is headed to espn. That's a beautiful thing. Congratulations.

[Ty Schmidt]

Great trade.

[Darius Butler]

Good for basketball.

[Pat McAfee]

Great for basketball. Great for us too. They want to come on the show.

[Ty Schmidt]

Absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

My feel.

[Adam Schefter]

Will they still film same spot like that or how will it go?

[Pat McAfee]

Do you know Turner show license just.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, sweet.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. And I'm sure all the sports media people will be able to understand it this time when they're reporting it because they have respect for those people, you know, because business wise, that's an incredible move. They're able to keep full creative control. That means the show won't change at all. That means they're still running their show that they have run forever. It's just being licensed through espn. Somebody else did that within the last couple years. Didn't get any fucking respect for it. But pretty historic whenever people look back on it. Ten to 15 years from now, I assume. And all the dipshits now that have pens will be fucking doofuses then too. Even more so. I assume it did.

[Boston Connor]

All the inside M. NBA's fans call them sellouts and stuff, I guess.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I don't. A little different. No, I guess. No. Yeah. They did not. That was very. People were saying very mean things.

[Boston Connor]

Very mean.

[Pat McAfee]

People still say very mean things to me on a regular basis. I don't even know you guys. I assume you guys get a bunch of too. I think it's just part of life these days. I'm about sick of these college football fans in their though.

[Gumpy]

Oh, I can imagine a lot of.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm giving away $800,000. Okay. On a Saturday day. Lucky to do it, thankful to do it. But then I got a bunch of people this selfish piece of is probably not even his money. I'm like, all right, dude, I. I don't know what to tell you. I have no idea. They're passionate, brother. They are very, very passionate. I didn't even hear my first time listening to this kind of shot back. I watched his kick a bunch of times. Bunch of times. What A beautiful kick.

[Gumpy]

He drilled it.

[Adam Schefter]

It was a cool situation. The whole thing was awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

I am so proud of Henry Silver, obviously, Indiana boy who. His Instagram profile pic is one of the coolest things that I've ever been a part of. Picture of me and him from training camp back in the day. But he got there at 6pm on Friday for game day. She got there at 3am you're talking about being committed to the program and to the show. Like, I am so incredibly thankful for Bell Session and Henry Silver for doing that. But. But then I've been waiting for somebody to do what Bell did. Waiting for it. I've actually mentioned numerous times in conversations didn't want to say it on this show because they want to give people ideas. Somebody needs to think of this themselves. But how has nobody said, like. Because I've never made the rules against it. The rules are the first 300 people get tickets, raffle tickets, if they want it, participate, then the ticket is drawn, and then whoever it is gets a chance to do the kick. Now, now, we have never said that that person who wins the drawing can't say, I pick you. Do you want to. How do you want to go about doing this? And go in there. So whenever I was told of the happening, they're like, the person who won doesn't want to kick. They want to kick. They want to pick somebody else or whatever. I'm like, genius. That was my reaction. I don't think the person. His name is Jeff. He works. I appreciate the hell out of him. He's a massive piece of this entire thing. I don't think he was expecting that reaction from me. I think they were trying to figure out, like, is this even allowed? Or whatever. And I was like, immediately, genius. Yeah, good. He was like, so we're good? And I'm like, definitely good. So I meet Belle and I'm like, did you plan on doing this? Was this a work? Like, hey, I'm going to get here in the first 300 and I'm going find somebody that can kick. And she was like, no, he was just standing next to me. Like, didn't know him. She didn't even know who he was. He just was standing next to her. And then whenever she looked nervous after she won, he looked at and was like, I can make that kick. And she was like, deal, let's do it. So it was like, that was like a beautiful. I was very, very pumped that it came together like this because I think it's a great depiction of, like, understanding the situation. How do we beat the situation? How do we at least put ourselves in a best situation to beat the. The entire opportunity and they did it. And then for him to strike that ball. I don't care if he had been a high school kicker, he obviously played soccer. I think here. Hamilton Southeastern, I saw a lot of people talk about it, but for him to strike that thing, that was good. From like 40.

[Adam Schefter]

Those are not good kicking shoes either.

[Pat McAfee]

I feel like not good kicking shoes, not good kicking ball, not good kicking surface. You've been standing. He's been there since 6pm the night before.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So it's not like he's warming up, you know, and then the crowd.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, the pressure that's like. I'm sure it's a lot of good golfers that once that crowd around you. Oh, exactly. It's a lot different. So for him to step up now, did he, did he tell you like about meeting you in the most training camp, like in the moment or not at all?

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't know until afterwards. We were, we were in the car, I think leaving the set and I opened my phone and I think it was. I don't know if it was somebody from West Virginia. Somebody texted me and was like, yo, did you see this kid's Instagram profile? And I was like, no go. And it was. They sent the picture. It didn't load. Didn't load because everybody's around. And your phone, I think is the worst one. I think I have the worst. I think I do. Dumpy used to have the worst one. I think I now have the worst one. That is out in the wild. That's what I think. Can't upload anything, can't download anything, can't send anything, can't connect Internet. Oh, she can't do the worst. And then there's no Internet on. Okay. Nonetheless, there's a whole thing. Thing. But once it loads, I like almost got emotional. Like, I almost got like pretty teary eyed because I thought about Henry and like he wanted to do this. That's why I got there at 6:00pm yeah. You know, like, I don't know when he made this his profile pick. Did he make this his profile pick on Friday before he got there? Because he like kind of all saw manifest it all happening, you know, it's like there's so many parts. So I can't wait to catch up with old Hank. I assume whenever he comes home in the summer, we will have him through here, the Thunderdome and we'll see if that makes another one. No Joke. But he was awesome. So was Bell. And then obviously another 400,000 hurricane relief, which puts us way up over a million, let alone Lenny Lemoine down there in Louisiana and vans and Tim's and everybody else that's donated. It's like. That was a cool moment, man. Great, cool moment all time. Could barely open my mouth to yellow and that whole thing. But then Henry going to the camera too, immediately like this.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's a good solid.

[Pat McAfee]

I was like, this kid's a dog.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, this kid got some moxie.

[Pat McAfee]

He does. He absolutely does. Yeah. I was proud of a man. That was a cool moment. Expensive. Very expensive. But a cool, cool moment. And then I, I explained on Instagram because all those people that say, it's not my money, it's tax write off, it's okay, okay. Given two college kids, $400,000 at tax rate. Off. Okay, no, that is not how it works. Do a little bit of research. Not everything is just a tax write off. And also tax write off, look at the percentage of money that you're getting back versus what you actually have to give. It is nowhere near what you think it is. And also with the amount of donations we've given, that whole write off thing is normally checked off by the end of January each year. Okay. So like that is. I just. That shit really does piss me off. But then also I think it's very. I think it is kind of confusing to think like, whose money is that? You know, whose money is that? Because normally this wouldn't take place. Normally it would be like a big corporate sponsor. Okay. Normally it would be some business, but with the amount of that, you would have to get through to get an actual good segment. And I put on Instagram, they would have like a fifteen hundred dollar kick because I mean a forty five yard or something for ten grand. This weekend at halftime it was like sponsored, obviously a big thing. It's like that's a much farther kick and everything like that. A $500 kick would potentially be offered. I think we saw at one of the games we were at Penn State.

[John Smith]

They offered a thousand right before halftime.

[Pat McAfee]

1,000 bucks for a 40 yard kick? Yeah. For somebody on the field, it's like that is what corporate is. And whenever this idea was pitched and everything, it was like, I want to make like a. I want it to feel like I want there to be a. A palpable. Also how you get nervous if you're 500 bucks, it's like, ah, it like I'm just here or not. That kid having 800 and I watch his ass, which is another cool thing. $800,000, you only get one shot. I watched him like lock in and that was cool to watch. Like, I think, I think he's going to med school. I believe he's going to utilize this money hopefully going forward. To go to med school, he needs to be in surgery because those surgeons have to execute with a lot of pressure. Watching him flip the switch was cool. Henry, you should be incredibly proud of yourself. You really should be. And Belle, genius.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, smart move.

[Pat McAfee]

Absolutely genius. Belle is the second girl that has been randomly selected from the raffle drawing. First one was at Alabama last year. She missed kick, as did many others. Now Belle is the second ever winner. And yeah, I, I, I'm excited to see what this turns into. You know, I'm excited to see what it is and who knows how long this game kicking thing will last.

[Adam Schefter]

It's already turned. What do you mean? I mean, every, I don't know. I'm sure you see it, but yeah, like every. So many little kids love the kick. Like young, young kids. My, my own kids, they like, they freak out if they feel like they're not going to get to watch the kid, whoever's going to kick it. And they think it is absolutely hilarious when they shank it hard and you guys go crazy. Like, that's, it's a great segment. The whole thing's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

It was the display, you know, that college kickers aren't the worst humans on earth. Just kicking his heart court, you know, that was kind of the, the evolution of it. And now we got governors saying, hey, way to go, buddy. And what's turning positive wise with people donating. It's cool. It's very, very cool. Anyways, shout out to Georgia. Damn good dogs down there. They get a huge win over Tennessee. That was a massive win for Georgia. Massive in the way they went about it. Carson Beck's best game by far. Oh yeah, by far. Able to run the ball a little bit to with Frazier. Haven't been able to do that for some time. Defense showed up. They were able to stall that Tennessee offense that's been rolling. And Tennessee's defense has been phenomenal. And Carson does his thing. It's like, what a win for the Georgia Bulldogs, who I assume tomorrow night are going to be very in to the college football playoff. And shots. Cody Rhodes. Bang, bang, bang, bang. AJ do you not know the songs or.

[Adam Schefter]

I know I like to give you guys your space. I like to give you guys your space. And not Step on you. Because you know, I'd be like, like a tiny bit behind you guys. You know that.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so you do know this. You know, obviously.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, come on, Cody Rhodes, we're talking. Let's go. And I know that's. I don't want to step on Tone. That's like Tone gets rocked up to do that to finish.

[Boston Connor]

Only during mania season. I don't care right now.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's always mania season.

[Pat McAfee]

He knew his.

[Darius Butler]

He was down.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Dialed in.

[Pat McAfee]

He knew his. He really does. Like there was a couple people whenever I would go do raw or whatever and I get there that I don't want to say, like don't have anybody else to talk to about these things. But it does feel like, hey, I would like to let this person know. College ball fan. Let's talk about ball. And also expecting me to have answers for everything that they're asking in this thing. Cody Rhodes, very much college ball fan. Very, very big Georgia Bulldog fan. And I think obviously he did his research for all the other games in the slate. There was one of those games in the slate. There was a Big 12 game. Yeah, that shout out to Arizona State. Shout out to Arizona State. I think Des was just trying to crack a joke, you know, and that ended up going the other way. But yeah, they're good team out there. Yeah, they are.

[Ty Schmidt]

They are rolling.

[Darius Butler]

Even picking this.

[Pat McAfee]

That was now whenever he says that I look over, I'm like, there's just on a Big 12. There's no reason he potentially is talking to me in that moment. So you know, cuz I big 12 advocate on that particular program. You know, a lot of talk about, you know, this, this is, this is a wide conference, not really a deep conference or whatever. It's like everybody needs to slow down on just half a beat here for a second. But what Arizona State has been doing this year, I'm happy we got to talk about. I'm happy I got to pick him because as Des was saying that and he makes his pick Kansas State. I think to myself, like, oh, I'm be the only one. And then I the Kansas State happens. I'm like, oh, I don't think they know. I don't think they know. I, I as I'm and I go Arizona State and then I go next to me I'm like, Cody might give me though because I'm on a. And then everybody kind of picks the way they do. And I'm like, I don't know if you guys have watched enough of this. Tone's A big fan of this particular coach and this particular team. So it's like a thing that I see and I'm like, hey, the way they've been playing 7 and 2, it's like, yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Scattabo is one of the best running backs in country too, dog.

[Pat McAfee]

Now they're eight and two. How you doing? Keep it moving.

[John Smith]

They got BYU at home this weekend.

[Pat McAfee]

Too, which with BYU reeling the past couple weeks, how that has gone massive game. Huge. And Colorado obviously has an opportunity at.

[John Smith]

Kansas, who's rolling now too. There's a couple of huge matchups in the Big 12.

[Pat McAfee]

Kansas is absolutely rolling. They're like how they were at the beginning of the year, but it could be Arizona State, Colorado.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

In this entire thing at the end.

[Darius Butler]

Who you guys got? I see you guys are doing a West Virginia whiteout.

[Ty Schmidt]

Big Brown out. No, Brown out. Yeah. They're wearing their brown jerseys.

[Darius Butler]

Brown out?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

For Neil Brown.

[Darius Butler]

Never heard. Oh yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

What happened?

[Ty Schmidt]

West Ginger's brownout this week. Weekend.

[Boston Connor]

Everyone's gonna poop their pants.

[Adam Schefter]

Serious?

[Ty Schmidt]

They've been doing that every weekend, but they're doing everyone wear brown for Neil Brown.

[Pat McAfee]

What? What happened?

[Adam Schefter]

I didn't, I didn't hear this.

[Ty Schmidt]

In support for Neil Brown. Everyone is going to wear brown in the stadium. So it's a Brown out.

[Pat McAfee]

So brown out is a support of Neil Brown. Yeah, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like we're all wearing the color of his name. Like, let's show him some support.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So they're all coming in saying. And we're wearing your last name.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo. We're we staying with the Browns. So it's Brown out.

[Pat McAfee]

I read that different. How come it's not a Brown in then?

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, they are also brown in because that's where the poop pants comes from. Since Brown in their shorts.

[Pat McAfee]

You're right. So Brown in, brown out.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Which I think they are supporting you. Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Or it's just a nice little send off.

[Boston Connor]

What do you mean?

[Gumpy]

Okay, give this guy one nice moment, one last nice moment before we fucking shit can him and get him out of here.

[Pat McAfee]

So, for instance, senior night night for my class. I just so happened to be so lucky to be Pat White's, you know, classmate. Senior night. White out. Bingo for Pat.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, that makes sense.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, there you go. Same exact thing.

[Darius Butler]

Packed house. I would assume for you.

[Pat McAfee]

Massive snowstorm. Oh. Like actual feet in feet of snow. So people showing up during game like first time time where like you saw like people actually weren't like battling through conditions to get to stadium.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And, yeah, it ended up being packed out, but it was. It was a real snowstorm. We were taking on South Florida. I think usf, if I do recall.

[Darius Butler]

Had to smack them.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I think we did win pretty good. We did win. The only thing I really remember from that game is at the very end, you know, it's your last game there I stood in the middle of the field, and I, like, looked up to one side and I did, like. What's that called? A panoramic. Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So I did, like, a panoramic view of, like, the stadium one last time. And I still, like. See, that's how I see the stadium whenever I think of it. And then walking off pretty emotional.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Walking off pretty emotional. Because on that field, so many things had happened to me in my life, you know, let alone the two kicks against Pitt in the first quarter. But then you're talking about all of our strength, strength and conditioning and all our running was on that field, you know, so it was like, I've had my life threatened on that field and I've almost died, actually.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

On that field. And then, you know, question a lot.

[Darius Butler]

Of things on that field.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo. Yeah. That field presented a lot for my life. So walking off was a pretty surreal moment. I don't know if that's what the Brownout's supposed to.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's what I assumed that that's how I read it.

[Boston Connor]

I can't think of what else it would be.

[Pat McAfee]

Who wrote it? Do you know?

[Ty Schmidt]

No, I have no idea who wrote it? I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you write. Is this a Cockner thing?

[Ty Schmidt]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe.

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean, I don't know.

[Adam Schefter]

All brown. Brown pants, brown shirt, brown hat. Everybody's wearing all brown.

[Boston Connor]

Looking at it right now, I think it's got. I think the university's doing it.

[Pat McAfee]

The university's doing a brown hat.

[Ty Schmidt]

Nice, Gordon.

[Darius Butler]

Gee, I hope Neil does a panoramic, too. Takes it all in.

[Adam Schefter]

Why?

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean?

[Darius Butler]

Just take it all in.

[Gumpy]

He might be coaching flag football next year.

[Pat McAfee]

Stadium's a little bit smaller with Johnny Smith.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, maybe.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe. I don't know if he qualified out.

[Adam Schefter]

If they're winning down there, they're winning 9U in South Florida, then seven years, you got a squad because you are playing some studs, I bet. It's unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

Good coaching.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

It has to be.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I'm excited to see what happens with West Virginia. I saw a basketball team, played pit the other night. What happened? You know what happened.

[Darius Butler]

I did.

[Pat McAfee]

That's why you asked that question. I did. See, I thought our basketball team was supposed to be a real deal.

[Gumpy]

Supposed to be good.

[Pat McAfee]

I was talking a lot of.

[Boston Connor]

They got blown.

[Pat McAfee]

I was talking a lot of. About our basketball team to some pit people, you know.

[Boston Connor]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

And then I just got updates throughout that game and it did not get better. Halftime was bad. And I go second half team. This is new squad. And then I get pictures sending the score to worse. It got worse.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

We were not a second half team. We were. We weren't a first. You're gonna have nights like that.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. Have nights.

[Darius Butler]

Long season.

[Pat McAfee]

West Virginia soccer won the Sunbelt Conference.

[Ty Schmidt]

There you go. You hang your hat on that going forward.

[Boston Connor]

That's huge.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know where the sun.

[Adam Schefter]

You're in the Sunbelt. You're in the Sunbelt in soccer.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that.

[Adam Schefter]

You're in different. Different sports, your different conferences.

[Pat McAfee]

I have no idea. I saw the picture. I saw how happy everybody was. I had so many questions.

[Adam Schefter]

How does that work?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. Wow. And why is it Sunbelt? I don't know if the sun. Who's all. Does the sun come to every state as much as it go. I don't. I don't. Yeah. We want it though. We fucking beat it.

[Adam Schefter]

Congrats. Congrats.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. Shout out to Sunbelt champs.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hold on to that. Be a while. Everywhere else.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Yeah. Rifle team.

[Darius Butler]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hold on to that too.

[Pat McAfee]

We're ready. Yep. The rifle team actually has this new heart controlling breathing exercise they've been doing. They created it, so.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. But unfortunately no one gives a fuck about rifle teams in college sports. You know, we do.

[Pat McAfee]

Really?

[Ty Schmidt]

But nobody does. You know, I want to hear more.

[Adam Schefter]

About the heart breathing thing they invented.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, well, they won't tell anybody. It's. Oh, it's like 51.

[Ty Schmidt]

What's college football playoff looking like for the rifle squads this year?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, well, obviously we have a first round by because we're a champion of the Sun Belt. Yeah. Okay. Which we know.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, you're in the rifle team, so. Oh, okay.

[Pat McAfee]

The Sunbelt is the best. The best marksman.

[Boston Connor]

Men's soccer. Sunbelt is so weak. Weird.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Ton just looked up some information.

[Boston Connor]

No, I'm just saying, like, W's in it. Kentucky's in it. South Carolina's in it.

[Adam Schefter]

Kentucky.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what I thought. We champs too. Marshall. Wow.

[Ty Schmidt]

Congrats, Marshall.

[Boston Connor]

You said Marshall makes sec.

[Darius Butler]

Bunch of schools not have a men's.

[Bill Belichick]

I don't give a.

[Gumpy]

About soccer.

[Adam Schefter]

Kidding me.

[Pat McAfee]

Canceled.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

No thanks.

[Gumpy]

Go play in the Sun Belt. It's football season. I'm playing soccer.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Western soccer team's real deal.

[Gumpy]

Just Sunbelt chance.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. In the NCAA Tournament's right around the corner. We're going to win that one, too.

[Ty Schmidt]

Can't wait.

[Pat McAfee]

We're going to win that one. The Sunbelt is going to be represented properly in the NCAA by West Virginia.

[Ty Schmidt]

You need to know that biggest, best season they've had.

[Pat McAfee]

Rich Rodriguez has won like seven straight games down at Jack's first date.

[Adam Schefter]

Bring him back. Bring him back.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't look now, don't look now. You know, Signetti grew up in the West Virginia program. You let him get hired by Indiana. Jimbo Fisher, obviously. Name and thrown around a West Virginian college football legend. He's out of coaching a little bit. How did it go at the end of Texas A and M? Would it be different in West Virginia? You know, there's a guy who has a massive chip on his shoulder. Massive. He would have to exercise some demons for sure. But there's somebody who is motivated to get West Virginia back to being great. More than maybe anybody that could possibly do it. Could you fathom Rich Rodriguez going back to West Virginia? I could not. I thought maybe Jon Gruden does it, you know, because he's been talking about it. He's now in barstool, run up numbers. I don't know if he's ever getting back into coach. And he's about to. He's about to take over digital. He's about to take over the digital landscape. I mean, no questions asked. Jon Gruden is about to take over the Internet as a whole. You know, for those of us that have been watching him on the Internet over the last, what, few months? Yeah. It's like, this is good. And he was using old school camera. Oh, yeah. No lighting at all, no mics.

[Darius Butler]

Perfect.

[Pat McAfee]

Now he's barstool Gruden. And it's like, ah, they're gonna have some play and some ideas, some critiques, and then he's all right. So maybe he'll never get back in the code. Who knows what he's gonna do. Maybe he's just coaching all of us on the Internet, which we can hope for more. But it's like Richard going back to West Virginia would be crazy. That would be a wild, wild team.

[Ty Schmidt]

I hope they do it. I thought they were looking at Shane Waldron. Bring him in. Could kind of revamp that off.

[Boston Connor]

I mean, bring it. They're doing a brown out to celebrate the coach. Why Would there to be.

[Ty Schmidt]

No.

[Gumpy]

No.

[Ty Schmidt]

For O.C. not to be.

[Darius Butler]

Oh.

[Gumpy]

Coached guys got NFL experience.

[Adam Schefter]

The brownout is a thing. Right. But we're not sure on the motivation. We're not sure on the intentions.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't know.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm pretty sure it.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, you're pretty sure on an existing.

[Adam Schefter]

Pretty sure on.

[Ty Schmidt]

On the intentions being this important deal.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's do some overreactions and get the out of here. Let's make our picks before we do the overreactions.

[Adam Schefter]

Did I go undefeated this week?

[Ty Schmidt]

You had a great week.

[Pat McAfee]

Ah. For.

[Adam Schefter]

I tell you what, I legit thought I might have gone defeated this week.

[Pat McAfee]

Completely defeated. Couldn't see the board very well.

[Boston Connor]

Swing a hotback.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's a wrap.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm swinging a hot back, unfortunately. Do I. I'm winning this one tonight.

[Pat McAfee]

I guess the picks are doing pretty well here in the NFL. I don't know about college.

[Adam Schefter]

I know you're killing the NFL picks. You kidding me?

[Pat McAfee]

I think college okay too.

[Adam Schefter]

I think you got eight. I feel like you got eight. Nine wins every week.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's been okay thus far, you know. And I've waffled a couple times obviously on this Friday segment.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure.

[Boston Connor]

Tough not to.

[Pat McAfee]

I've waffled a couple times this evening, though. This is a tough one. This is a very difficult one because there's so many question marks. It's like, will the Houston Texans offensive line be able to protect CJ Stroud? We have no idea now if they are able to protect CJ Stroud. What happens with Nico Collins edition. Back to the offense. Well, you would think electricity. You would think big numbers. You would think Cooper Kush would never be able to keep up. Especially without a run game. How are they going to be able to do anything? This is a tough one to pick in my eyes. D. Butch, what are your thoughts? Who you taking? How you taking it?

[Darius Butler]

You know what with all the surrounding Michael Parsons as of late, I know him and CJ Stroud spend a bunch of time this off season together. So they'll probably do it again going forward. A lot of shit talking to B Had. I think this. This is the Michael Parsons game. I think he is an absolute game record tonight. And I think the Cowboys cover and speak with my heart. Bet with my heart here. And they win. Texas stumble. Cowboys win straight up.

[Pat McAfee]

Was your heart. You want the Cowboys?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I want. I love CJ Strap in Texas, Nick, all those guys but need him to lose. What AR because AR is cooking, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I hate culture all the way.

[Darius Butler]

So give me Dallas straight up.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Doesn't even want the plus seven.

[Darius Butler]

Well, actually I want the plus seven, but.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Good call. I would like the touchdown. Yes, for sure. AJ who do you like? How do you like it, man?

[Adam Schefter]

I. I don't know how much, how many points the Cowboys are going to score on offense? I don't know. Maybe. Maybe Coupe has. Has some magic tonight, but I'm taking the Texans here. I know 7 does feel like a lot, but I feel like this is Texans get back on track a little bit. But I think D. But that's one thing that does worry me a bit. I could see Micah being an absolute game wrecker, especially feeling good, feeling healthy. But I will stick with the Texans here. Minus seven.

[Pat McAfee]

What was the tweet I just saw about the Texans money? There's some insane stats around the Texas right now.

[Boston Connor]

It's all on the Texas.

[Darius Butler]

Nico's back.

[Pat McAfee]

It's like 87%. I think I saw.

[John Smith]

It's over 70% at every book. Over 80 at most.

[Adam Schefter]

How's that usually go?

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, this weekend, public as well.

[John Smith]

Favorite Stroud's also 3 and 8 ATX as a favorite of 3 or more points.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[John Smith]

Never been favored by 7 in his.

[Ty Schmidt]

Career and he stinks in the road. But it's still in text Texas. So is it really Cowboys home?

[Pat McAfee]

That's a good question. How is he with no sun?

[Adam Schefter]

It's game time, though. Nighttime, right? So the sun's down.

[Pat McAfee]

No sun. What are you gonna say, Tone?

[Boston Connor]

Cowboys at home this season lost 44.19, 28, 25 to the Ravens. That was a good one. That was close. 47 nine to Detroit and 34 six to Philly.

[Pat McAfee]

Jesus Christ. Jeez. I'll take the Cowboys plus seven. Wow. I don't like it. I don't. I don't love it.

[Adam Schefter]

I want to see a good game. I want to see it back and forth. Let's see a game.

[Boston Connor]

Good call.

[Pat McAfee]

I think that's their sizes. Like it? Really?

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

That's cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah. It was on doordash the other day.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, I didn't know.

[Boston Connor]

No free ads, but last night, boy got a cookie dough with extra cookie dough. I don't want to mention where I got it from. It's cold. It's blizzy. Just so. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So much better than cold stone.

[Boston Connor]

So good.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude, cold. Cold stone's too creamy. Like the ice cream is not good.

[Adam Schefter]

Custard. Is it like custard, they call it?

[Ty Schmidt]

It's not.

[Gumpy]

It's ice cream, but it's nowhere near DQ's ice cream.

[Pat McAfee]

It really isn't blizzards.

[Adam Schefter]

Blizzards are the apex of things like that.

[Pat McAfee]

I have no idea what they're putting in their ice cream vers other people. Like, I'm sure there's a full conversation about that whole thing. Dairy Queen is. I mean, they reign supreme.

[Boston Connor]

If they. If they're not putting good stuff in it, we got a guy. We'll get to the bottom of it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Who's that?

[Pat McAfee]

Did you see the Canadian Fruit Loops in the United States? Fruit Loops? I did a couple things different. I don't know what he's talking about.

[Boston Connor]

I hope that's changed.

[Pat McAfee]

Where's the journalistic standards? Do they exist? I don't know. All right, let's go to some overreactions. I'm on the Cowboys. You're on the Texans. You're on the Cowboys as well.

[Darius Butler]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

That was a good point about us wanting the text. Texans lose. I almost got caught up in the fact that I like cj.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And I like the Texans as a whole, Nick, but we need them to go.

[Darius Butler]

Need it. Sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's do some overreactions. Ty, how was the batch this morning? If you had to give it a one word description.

[Gumpy]

Okay. I would say we're getting to the point where it's tough because a lot of the overreactions are just kind of the same week in, week out. It's like, how many times can, if you're a Jets fan say, like, fucking Woody Johnson needs to go back to England? Like, I've seen that a billion times. You know what I mean? Getting a little stale. So hopefully, hopefully, kind of next week we. We jog the creative juices a bit.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Let's not listen. These are still going to be great.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Cannot wait to read them. Ladies and gentlemen, I put out a bird call and said, happy overreaction Monday. Would love to hear your thoughts. All you have to add in your tweet is hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but best ones make the show. We ended up being the number three overall trend in the United States.

[Ty Schmidt]

Shout out to got solid at 2.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Shout out to the people. We appreciate the opportunity to read through. And if you're bored taking a dump or anything like that on your phone, go ahead and scroll through all these. These are the ones that Ty picked to be on the program. This one's from Tone Digs. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but we're from the town with Decree football team. We cheer The Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. Here we go. Cheer the Steelers black and gold. Here we go. Tie the Pittsburgh's heart and soul. Here we go. I love it. Break out all the super bowl songs because that is exactly where we are going. Season everyone in NOLA tone, I don't think it's an overreaction, brother. You just knocked off a very good Ravens team.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, very, very good. And we talked about it last week was the belief was starting to build and now it's. It's. We just talked about the apex. It is at the apex. I fully expect the Steelers to be in the super bowl. And all those songs are going to be awesome. We're going to party. NOLA all week on seven's Coming home.

[Pat McAfee]

I saw there was a couple tailgates that were moved. Moved this weekend.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, saw that too.

[Pat McAfee]

Around Axure. Still looked like the injured showed up and had a good time.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, they did show up. They had a good time. The people that bring their, you know, their pictures from home, from their house, they take them off their walls, they hang them up. That's just Pittsburgh Steeler tailgating football.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. What?

[Ty Schmidt]

So sick.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a wall. Just good for you.

[Adam Schefter]

Good for you guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Need to put the chief up there. Go ahead and do that. That's awesome. Pittsburgh is a great football town. I'm so happy they have a chance to go because when they were just a good football town, obviously they're in it, they're excited, they're thankful, but the national audience isn't paying attention.

[Boston Connor]

Correct.

[Pat McAfee]

But now that they can really go on a run, like, everybody has to pay attention to Pittsburgh. And I saw Yinzer smack a Ravens fan right in the mouth.

[Ty Schmidt]

Need that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Something smack right in the mouth. No fight. Just get the. You need to relax.

[Boston Connor]

That's respect. Because that would have been a closed fist against the Browns or the Bengals. That's a.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Boston Connor]

Slap.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Darius Butler]

I think a slap is more disrespectful.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, that's a robbery.

[Adam Schefter]

Very.

[Boston Connor]

Well, depending on, you know, the end result.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Well, Pittsburgh Steelers get a big time win and Yenders are obviously celebrating everywhere. This Bones guy, man, oh, man, he is through the roof. He's on the moon. Yeah. With this Pittsburgh Steelers throwing mud right now. Absolutely. Speaking of, Paul Scheen's at the game, having a great time.

[Gumpy]

He looks good. That's a great peacoat.

[Pat McAfee]

It was, wasn't it? Yeah. Strong.

[Gumpy]

Yeah. And now he doesn't just have the mustache. I tell you what, mustache is great. Look but his facial here hair is fucking top notch.

[Pat McAfee]

He looks like goddamn model.

[Gumpy]

He does.

[Pat McAfee]

And that Pico was covering up. You gotta remember that dude's base is a fault barrel. Both of them bang trunks. Two whiskey barrels hanging off his hips.

[Boston Connor]

Actually, I. I completely forgot. I got a picture from one of the tailgates yesterday. One of my buddies. Is that. That's Danny Smith and that's who they're praying to.

[Pat McAfee]

Special teams coordinator right there. And you see all that gum? That indicates every piece of gum that's in his mouth at all times. That is a concurrent gum rate, not a full gum rate. Okay. He's up for assistant coach of the year, I think for a lot of people. And Bo and 6 for 6 yesterday. And winning that game.

[Boston Connor]

Thank you, Dan.

[Pat McAfee]

He's obviously only helping it. I. This Steelers team is going to be fun for people to continue to learn about. All right, let's go to the next one, shall we? This is from Gumpy. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but that was the best NFL Sunday we've had all season. Shout out to Sheamus. Banger after banger after banger. I think it was on the New York jets pregame show. Shout to Sheamus, still doing his thing. But you're right, Dumpy. Yesterday was awesome.

[John Smith]

Yeah, usually we get all stinkers in that afternoon slate. It was nice to have that. Bills, Chiefs, and then the Sunday nighter was unbelievable. Huge comeback. And then the Chargers to win it like they did was awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Steelers, Ravens, lived up to the hype. Chiefs, Bills lived up to the hype. Colts, Jets, Colts, jets played wasn't really that hyped. Bears, packers played. Was lived up to the height.

[Darius Butler]

Seahawks, Niners.

[Pat McAfee]

Seahawks, Niners. People didn't expect to be as good, especially with Gino going crazy. Gino does. And then you write the primetime game lives up to the hype. It is. It was a great NFL Sunday slate. And tonight we're in for another banger. Oh, yeah.

[John Smith]

Good to see Sheamus back on the field. I think it been like a week since he wasn't at a game.

[Pat McAfee]

We need him at more fields.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Notre Dame needs to just. Hey, you're our mascot now.

[Pat McAfee]

I saw Navy lost to Tulane 35.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, they did two lanes. Good football team.

[Pat McAfee]

Two. Lane's very good idea. I did not expect him to do. I was picking America always.

[Boston Connor]

Which I saw you can always respect. You know, Army's got a big one this weekend against Notre Dame. Before they play? No, before they play Tulane in the AAC championship. And army's got some sick uniforms this weekend.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh yeah. So I just got reported.

[Boston Connor]

Battle of the Bulge, I believe. Uniforms. They are really.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is that real?

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, yeah, they were sweet.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

They tweeted out within the last hour or two.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That's awesome. Awesome. I didn't see him in depthly but I just opened my phone. I saw it.

[Adam Schefter]

I was like not a brown out. It looks sweet. All right, look at this.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

So they actually did.

[Gumpy]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That's sweet because we were.

[Ty Schmidt]

We weren't joking. We were just like saying earlier how sweet it would be. Battle of Bulge. That's. That's incredible news.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, I'm happy to hear that. Battle the bulge big time.

[Gumpy]

WW2 battle. Very band brothers kind of showcases it.

[AJ Hawk]

It.

[Gumpy]

It's in insane.

[Pat McAfee]

Walking through.

[Adam Schefter]

Okay, okay. Should have a gun.

[Pat McAfee]

He does some American Eagle just sitting there on the shoulder. How you doing? Keep it moving.

[Adam Schefter]

Give him two rifles in that picture.

[Ty Schmidt]

Maybe four strapped to his shoulders, brother.

[Pat McAfee]

Four of them. Army. Exclamation point. Love that. All right, boys, going to be not picking against army.

[Ty Schmidt]

No way.

[John Smith]

Can't.

[Adam Schefter]

Nope, can't.

[Pat McAfee]

Picking against too late again, I guess. For the sake of America. Well, they got Notre Dame this weekend, I guess. All right, let's go to another overreaction, shall we? It's from peep@peep NATO hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but if the Jaguars don't fire the whole staff by the time you go live, I'm going to drive to Jacksonville and take a shit on the deck of. Sean, come on. You said these are bad. Over. I love.

[Gumpy]

This is why it's leading off.

[Pat McAfee]

I love this one deep NATO.

[Gumpy]

Good one.

[Pat McAfee]

Where's this yacht? I'm going to take a shit on it. Listen, Sean Conn. I don't think he's to blame at all. Now granted, he's done all the hiring. Sure, he's obviously been a part of leading the culture, but I feel like he's invested as much as he possibly could into an NFL team and has tried to be as hands off.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

As possible in an NFL team. Now maybe that's the issue. Maybe the guy that created bumpers and got bazillions of dollars off it should be a little bit more hands on. We know his son, chief football strategist Ball. So if your football team sucks, does the CFS have to fall in the before the GM and the head coach? We shall see. I this Detroit football Lions team is just ruining days. It was incredible. Too. I mean, the Jaguars started with the ball. They went down, they got a 57 yard field goal. Three nothing. And then it was touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, touchdown. And they could do anything they wanted. Didn't matter if it was Gibbs, Monty, St. Brown. It was. It was everyone. It was honestly one of the worst football games. J J so fast. He's awesome. With the Marshawn in there. I mean, the line had so much time for golf.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was Ma Jones, though.

[Boston Connor]

I mean, he spun it pretty good.

[Ty Schmidt]

There were a couple o.

[Pat McAfee]

That guy.

[Ty Schmidt]

That guy might still have something in the tape.

[Pat McAfee]

How about Mac Jones being a part of so many things that you're not supposed to be a part of, you know, that you don't want to hang after any type of a word for after.

[Ty Schmidt]

Statistically the greatest college football season all time. After Burrow. Yeah. Beat Burrow's records.

[Darius Butler]

Poor Jacks fans. I mean, they. They were so getting Trevor Lawrence. He was one of those guys that was hype. Just like this time last year, they.

[Boston Connor]

Were first place in afc.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, but I mean, just the last few years, they went AFC championship with Brock years ago. Then you get Trevor Lawrence, you get Urban Meyer. Hoop. You know, that was obviously split, but now it's ugly.

[Ty Schmidt]

They're up 2414 in that AFC championship.

[Pat McAfee]

Kneel it out. Remember, that was the big deal. Kneel it out.

[Darius Butler]

Changes quick.

[John Smith]

Urban didn't do that bad of a job. Looking back.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, well, okay.

[Adam Schefter]

Who's gonna be the next coach?

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean, Doug Marone didn't do that bad of a job.

[Adam Schefter]

Looking back.

[Pat McAfee]

Mike Florio is reporting that maybe Trent Balki, Bill Belichick kind of recognized rekindle, you know, rekindle. And you would think we'd just be able to ask Bill, but he won't give us a answer, though.

[Adam Schefter]

He loves Milro.

[Pat McAfee]

He does. He should love whoever's thinking about hiring me as a coach. I got an idea. Melro.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That is who we need. You. Everything about ar. I love him a lot. Like Jaylen Milro, now that I'm thinking about it. And Jaylen Milro, first in, last out guy. I mean, this is. This is a no doubter here. Sounded like he was saying he loves Milro. Yeah, because you're not that Alabama team. You know, they have that situation in the middle of season where everybody's wondering if they're going to go or they're going to go. Now their strength of schedule is better than everybody. The football judgment, watching them better than everybody. And if Jaylen Milro Is going to continue to just kind of do Jaylen Milro. I mean, they're Debor's. They're almost unstoppable.

[Boston Connor]

First Bama coach to ever win a game in his first year at family.

[Pat McAfee]

That a boy.

[Ty Schmidt]

There it is.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of people transferred out of there, too, Remember? Just poached that entire roster for two weeks. Coach leaves, you got two weeks to just go ahead and take this entire thing. Good roster, too. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Good fishing.

[Pat McAfee]

Caleb Downs leaves.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And they're still good on it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is there a bond?

[Pat McAfee]

What? Ohio State. You guys feel good? Ohio State. You got Indiana coming up. College game days.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. Big test for the Bucks. Yeah. I think people are super juicy. Kidding me. Indiana, followed by Michigan. We got Thanksgiving and holiday season. Yeah. Great time of the year.

[Pat McAfee]

I know it's. I was about to say big noon game. I think everybody's pretty pumped up about it. I've heard.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, Michigan's always. Michigan was always a noon game. I know this whole situation. Yeah, these. These noon games, people are pissed.

[Pat McAfee]

What is it? Six straight. I think six straight noon games for Ohio State, Buckeye fans and.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, well, I guess I don't hear it as loud from Ohio State fans as others.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, really?

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Adam Schefter]

Are they. Are Ohio State people losing their mind about it as much?

[Pat McAfee]

I think there was a couple tweets, but obviously, like, tweets are things that can get echoed into a. Into a frenzy to get a little bit larger than maybe what everybody's feeling on Boots on the Ground. So I'm happy you said that. But with that being said, I think there are some people probably at Ohio State that are like, our fucking light show is sick. I did see. We've invested millions.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, I saw that.

[Pat McAfee]

And millions of dollars into this light show to make this one of the premier buildings in all of sport. And yeah, because we're the of the walk now. Every week we're at noon. Nobody can do. We try to run our fireworks in the middle of the day. It don't work as good.

[Gumpy]

Can't see them.

[Pat McAfee]

We try to run our light show. Middle of the day doesn't work as good. I think we got a cloudy weekend coming, so we might be able to put a little bit of it. But it is. Penn State also said the same thing. Ohio State said the same thing. I wonder how big that combo is going to go in the off season. You know, I wonder because it's loud.

[Gumpy]

It makes. It just makes no sense. Like, I understand there are, like, metrics and they've done a bunch of on why it's there. But like, the best game on your slate shouldn't be at noon every single week. It just shouldn't. Like when you have a bunch of top five matchups, like, maybe let's throw one of those at fucking 7:00pm like, it just, it makes no sense.

[Pat McAfee]

And the teams. Yeah, like, I know, aj, I don't care what time we play in or whatever, but it's like, no, I want.

[Adam Schefter]

To play night games as well. I. I agree there. You should have a couple night games a year in your home stadium. Especially when you have an unbelievable light show that you don't get to show off.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's like prime time. Like, that is actual. Like, hey, I thought we're. This is the. We're doing this entire thing.

[Adam Schefter]

We've been waiting all day. We've been waiting all. Like it's a whole buildup of all of it. And then all of a sudden. Oh, they're actually come out to warm ups. Like, you know what it's like for those night games when there's so much buildup and you see the first. Like. Yeah, man, there's something about it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the lights. Playing under the lights is like a part of anything, you know, you're a kid, you don't see like heavyweight boxing mat fights happening at noon. You know, for good reason, because it's like under the lights at night. Like, that is the. That is the prime time legitimately. And like, I'm a Colts season ticket holder. It's like we have no prime time games, which sucks.

[Ty Schmidt]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

Hate it completely. That's what you're like aiming for though. Like, that is what you want. You want your team to be like that. So in college ball with the noon thing happening, it's very. I could see how fans would be pissed. But also Fox is like, what do you want us to do?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, it's our best.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we pay billions of dollars for this.

[Darius Butler]

When they get the schedule to begin the season, is it like, like us in NFL, there's a lot of tbd.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, tbd.

[Darius Butler]

Okay. Because I know us.

[Boston Connor]

We.

[Darius Butler]

That's one of the first things you look at how many prime time games we got Thursday night football by week, obviously, but so it's just TBD after.

[Pat McAfee]

Big noon kick is decided.

[Darius Butler]

Kind of like, oh, okay, got it.

[Boston Connor]

You know, because then CBS 3:30 and then, you know, ESPN, ABC is the night one.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Sucks.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm excited to get over there because last hour of game day will be on field. Nice shout out to being on field. And then you just turn around after the show ends and Indiana High states playing. This is awesome. This is the. This is the greatest setup for us now. Not being able to do the picks in front of the people and doing the whole thing. Real bummer in iu. Ohio State, you know, I don't know which way I'm going. Yeah. No.

[Darius Butler]

How could you still lie?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know.

[Boston Connor]

12.

[Ty Schmidt]

I need to take over the game day.

[Boston Connor]

I don't know whose favorite it might be.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. To your point.

[Ty Schmidt]

I. You need to get over there and.

[Pat McAfee]

Take over SA I college game day at some of these schools. Some of these schools who have had it a lot, you know, could get a little comfortable with game day being there. You know, like game days here. Okay. There is an opportunity with how close Indiana is.

[Ty Schmidt]

That never happens.

[Pat McAfee]

Indiana I. We talked about this morning. Not wishing for it, but just the opportunity is. Is potentially there for Indiana fans who are very jacked up about this Indiana season is not real.

[Gumpy]

Once in a lifetime.

[Pat McAfee]

This is what's happening right now. Now they just extend Kurt Signetti or whatever for until 2032. And he said we're a powerhouse or emerging superpower. Emerging superpower in college football. Why would I go anywhere? I love that. But it's like we had a conversation earlier in here about, like, Indiana fans could potentially just be like, where are we parking now? We'll figure out parking where we tailgate. We just go to game day and then just go to the game.

[Adam Schefter]

There will be. There'll be a bunch of Indiana people there.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so. I think so. And it's. It wouldn't be the first time, obviously, that has happened, but I think Indiana understands the situation here. Fans base because how close? It's very close. Yeah. Like, this isn't traveling three hours. This is very close to get two.

[Boston Connor]

And a half hours.

[Pat McAfee]

And then the game being a noon as opposed to being at night.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So then you don't have to wait. Like, hey, why would we drive over early and then have to wait 12 hours and then drive it? No, it's like games of noon. We head over there. Six Amish. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

We're home by six.

[Pat McAfee]

We're kind of. You know, there's a chance for that. That entire thing. So I'm very excited for the game day atmosphere and the game day vibe that we're gonna have. And then getting down in there. That place is so cool. That stadium is so cool.

[Adam Schefter]

You what you make the walk through the. Like, the rotunda. Right. Right down the. Where the band Comes down that ramp.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And I don't deserve to be doing that every time I'm walking through there. I'm just. Anytime we do that at any of these stadiums, but at Ohio State, it's. You literally make the walk. I think that the team does, right? Isn't that.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, yeah. It's exactly what the team does.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, I should be walking here. And there's, like, a line of fans, too, because they're waiting on.

[Adam Schefter]

I think the stadium was built, like, in 1908. Like, there's. There's some history there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And they're like, yeah. I'm like, I do not. I'm not doing. I'm going to talk on a microphone in there. I got better seats than you guys. Somehow I don't deserve it. You didn't. You should not be doing that for me. But. So I try to give as many. I try to run through it, get through it as fast as possible. I'm uncomfortable. We should not be able to do this. Thank you. And then get inside and it's like, oh, thank God. And then we walk down the. Where you guys are walking through, I think where the band walks through. And it's like, all eyes are on you as soon as you get there. Like, I do not deserve this either. Like, I wish we could go through a. Like a side door, because it's like a gladiator through the people, down through the thing. I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna go talk into a microphone. You know, it is. It's a really cool setup over there. It's college ball, man. Ohio State is one of those just OG college ball places that. That the entire state loves them. And they're in it right now with India. Hey, it's a good Indiana team, AJ It's a good Indiana.

[Adam Schefter]

Great Indiana team. What do you mean, great team?

[Pat McAfee]

What's that Northwestern guy doing a Jeremiah's foot? That's dirt.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. That was. That was.

[Boston Connor]

Didn't love that.

[Ty Schmidt]

Don't.

[Pat McAfee]

It was like, you know, like an ankle lock, like a. Sit back on it. Yeah. It's like, what are we, Northwestern?

[Ty Schmidt]

Come on.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, I've heard things about you guys. Yeah?

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, many things.

[Pat McAfee]

What you hear. Well, I didn't know that was one of them. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

They love the movie Shrek.

[Pat McAfee]

Wrigley Field looks sweet.

[Boston Connor]

It did.

[Pat McAfee]

Wrigley Field looked very cool with that state or with the field in there. Because sometimes those places in the bullpen is that where they were.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I think it was a super long walk. Bobby told me the day before that. I think he's like, oh, Ryan's having him dress in the bullpen because it's such a long walk to wherever their clubhouse would be. So, yeah, whatever. I saw them make their way at halftime.

[Pat McAfee]

They're.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, they're heading down to the bullpen or whatever.

[Pat McAfee]

So whenever I said it looked cool, everybody in Ohio State that was actually there was like, it is not cool.

[Adam Schefter]

No, they loved it. No, no, they loved it. I think everyone loved it. I know a lot of people that actually like before the season. Okay, I want to go to Wrigley and watch this game. They. They wanted to go, but I think just like, like the old Minnesota, the old Metrodome, you. You walked up 75 stairs to get to the plane surface. So when you got there, you got there, you were going back and forth much. I think he just wanted to limit that.

[Pat McAfee]

That's like up there in Detroit. Detroit has that long ass walk up that tunnel. You're right. You remember that.

[Adam Schefter]

Both teams come out the same tunnel too long.

[Pat McAfee]

Way, way, way up there. Wasn't Houston.

[Adam Schefter]

Houston has Houston.

[Pat McAfee]

Makes you walk a mile maybe from where the bus drops you off. You have to walk through stadium, down field, all the way down the sideline of the field, all the way up in another town tunnel, and then back down a hallway. It's like, yep, only way you can get dropped off right over here. Mile away. Sorry about it. That's what you gotta do. I love those places. I think it's an advantage. Yeah, absolutely. Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? Here's from Haggle. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Bengals are destined for failure as long as Zach and Duke are in charge. Joe and Ball out every week, and the rest of the team shows up with skyline chili in their diapers. Oh, and money Mac. Okay, okay. He's been replaced by Evan Ms. Fearson. Guy's cooked, says Haggle. Pretty clever there.

[Ty Schmidt]

That was good.

[Pat McAfee]

Ms. Fearson out there, anytime you're missing kicks, they're going to come for you. Obviously, no matter what you've done for a program, Zach Taylor's taking a lot of heat, a lot of hunt. I saw him taking a lot of heat for a lot of decisions last night. And then Duke, obviously he has to operate in a fashion that the Brown family will allow him to operate in. So how much is it all on them? I don't know, but that was that A common sentiment there about Bengals fans.

[Gumpy]

A lot of that. Because I think a lot of people, you know, they're saying the. The stuff about the Brown family, like the sell the team stuff, it's like, well, guess what, the Brown family isn't going to sell the team. So, you know, that's kind of just a non starter. So yeah, a lot of that stuff about Duke and mostly Zach Taylor, it's been like that all season.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, we love them, but I mean, whoa. They won 86 yards in four place.

[Gumpy]

A lot of that too.

[Ty Schmidt]

Vlad McConkey won bananas 86 in lab McConkey. We've mentioned Quentin Johnson. Quentin Johnson had two catches. Like if you're going to zero in on somebody, it's probably just Lab McConkey there at the end when they need to get some, you know, big plays. So, you know, Lou Ann Arumo probably doesn't feel too great today.

[Darius Butler]

They play better in the second half too. They for sure the second half played better. Created some turnovers, but yeah, you can't finish that way.

[Pat McAfee]

Bengals. Speaking of them, I guess they're with the Cowboys on Monday night football.

[Ty Schmidt]

Stop that. Can we just watch that game?

[Adam Schefter]

Say why? Tell us why.

[Pat McAfee]

Love this. Okay, thank you. If anybody could. For those asking, the Bengals Cowboys Monday night football game is not eligible to be flexed out because of all the drawings, voiceovers and other work that has been done for the Simpsons alt cast that we are that night.

[Darius Butler]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. So I used to be a firm believer that Matt Groening was a time traveler, the guy for the Simpsons. Yeah, this kind of goes right against that. This kind of goes right against that entire thing. So I don't know how I feel about it, but nobody wants to read that. Nobody wants to hear that. Nobody wants to watch that. But the Simpsons thing will be cool. There'd be a couple.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, he was a time traveler. He would know that it was getting flex and he would already have that.

[Pat McAfee]

Artwork and he would. He would also already know that that's not good for the Simpsons there. Right. That they're part of the reason why. Yeah. Shitty ass game.

[Boston Connor]

He still could a human groaning.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, there's a lot of alien talk right now. I'm seeing a lot of clips.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Too many clips coming out.

[AJ Hawk]

A lot.

[Pat McAfee]

Too many clips. A lot of underwater stuff. We need to talk about that.

[Boston Connor]

Ton of underwater stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe. Maybe we not need to go in an ocean as much. I don't think it's our land.

[Gumpy]

I agree.

[Pat McAfee]

This land is our land. That water is their Land and up in spacey. I think it's their placey. I think they're everywhere. I think from what I'm reading, they're amongst us. Yeah, well, that's whole nother thing. Like do we know if they are?

[Adam Schefter]

Nope.

[Pat McAfee]

I saw this cloud just moving. Yeah. You know, it's like so whatever. What do you mean? I've always had a thought that what if these are just clouds? You know, Everybody's like, where's the ufo? Where's the ufo? What if it just fucking decided to look like a cloud? What if it's just, you know, and then just that cloud's moving real fast. Well, it must be windy up there. And it's just like a, you know.

[Boston Connor]

Are you saying there?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I'm not getting. I'm not saying like definitely that's the case, but could be.

[Adam Schefter]

Anything's possible.

[Boston Connor]

Are they tornadoes?

[Pat McAfee]

I. You're talking about them being devastation two places. I mean there's something happening. Water too. To some boat. I think that came out.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Are they hurt?

[Pat McAfee]

When are we going to find out? I'd like to find out. And let's go Shake their things. Hands wherever they go.

[Adam Schefter]

Shake their thing, hopefully.

[Pat McAfee]

What if they only have a dong? What if that's it? What if that's how they talk?

[Boston Connor]

You got to shake it.

[Pat McAfee]

What if it walks over seven feet tall and it's just got a stick coming out of the middle of it?

[Gumpy]

Got to shake it, you know, I.

[Pat McAfee]

Just got to walk over and just grab.

[Adam Schefter]

That's just customary for them. That's customary.

[Pat McAfee]

Good to see you. Good.

[Adam Schefter]

You got two hand now. You got two handed.

[Pat McAfee]

We don't know.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, no idea.

[Adam Schefter]

Some of them.

[Pat McAfee]

What if that is.

[Darius Butler]

They probably won't want to shake your hand.

[Pat McAfee]

What if that's their hand Dick?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, you would probably just have to.

[Ty Schmidt]

Go, yeah, wrap dongs, go.

[Darius Butler]

What you guys figure head to head, fill in the.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you talking about?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, you're gonna dock.

[Adam Schefter]

You're gonna dock penises.

[Ty Schmidt]

That'd be a pound situation.

[Pat McAfee]

You think we're. Yeah, fist bump.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, you gotta pull your meat out and pound it. Like here you go.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom.

[Adam Schefter]

With your tip, your meat.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, we're going meet. Meet. Are they always nice to meet?

[Ty Schmidt]

Meet and greet.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but what if. What if it was to pop out a little hand at the end now what if it does? What if it like that and he.

[Adam Schefter]

Grabs your tip of your meat. He's like, haha, I got you, buddy.

[Ty Schmidt]

That'd be sick.

[Pat McAfee]

We don't know like that's These are the questions I have to ask.

[Adam Schefter]

What's the little hand do?

[Pat McAfee]

Good to see you.

[Boston Connor]

I think Austin Power Shadow did that.

[Pat McAfee]

Intent. Right. I mean I just. We need.

[Adam Schefter]

That would scare the hell out of me. The little hand came out of the tip of that dude's meat. What's Is it that part we don't know person thing?

[Pat McAfee]

Bean. Bean, we need to know more because we're going to continue to think like this until you give us the answer. That's right. So let us know, please.

[Ty Schmidt]

They have biologics.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Like I said in my interview, non biology. Yeah. That's kind of the issue we're talking about. And then all this Lazar stuff's popping up. Now, just to reiterate what they said in this UAP hearing, here's Lazar actually explaining what he saw in this entire thing. And it's like, all right, why do you say that? In the 70s, we haven't learned to. What is the deal? Can we shake their hands? And also do they want to fight? Cuz Bones is in shape. Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Bones is in shape right now. You got your little dong with your hands sticking out. Bone's going to break them.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Bang.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Spinning back elbow right there has ever.

[Boston Connor]

Been put in a choke hold.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. What if he does do a spinning kick, right. Boom. Be risky and the thing just melts inside. What if it catches like a hammer. Hammer to a nail inside of a. A deck. That's what this guy's dick just goes inside. You want to talk now? You want. You don't even got a dick.

[Boston Connor]

There's a chance is worst case scenario if that hand catches Jon Jones's foot.

[Pat McAfee]

And we're like, oh, well then we know it, John.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

No, it's over.

[Ty Schmidt]

Worst case scenario is that we do that, that thing dies and then the aliens are like, oh, okay, so we. We have to obliterate your planet then. I didn't realize we were fighting.

[Boston Connor]

Well, we shake his hands first.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I think they have to showcase. Yeah, we should. We want. Would like.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Good. Guys.

[Adam Schefter]

Shake their dong hand. Shake their dong hand first and then see if they want to.

[Pat McAfee]

We're not sure if they have dong hands, but if they do, we will have to do that. Yep. Testimony. Welcome America. You know, if we go to a planet where it's all dogs, we assume we'll have to sniff an ass to say hello.

[Gumpy]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, if that's. That's how it all goes. Sometimes you gotta do that type of stuff to move forward. But with that being said, we will try to talk to him, but if they don't want to talk. John Bones Jones is in great shape right now. He's in great shape. Elon, like. Oh, what do you call, like, be the guys in between and, like, base. Tell us what's going.

[Boston Connor]

Mediator.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. So Elon's. We know that.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. He's on our side.

[Darius Butler]

A clone. John.

[Pat McAfee]

John's. Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

We can't just have one. We need, like, army of Bones Joneses.

[Pat McAfee]

So then once you talk about the clones of them, then what do we. Who is it you know, and who's running it? Who's in control? So many questions.

[Boston Connor]

There's rumors on the Internet that that's where Brock Lesnar is. He's just been training for aliens.

[Pat McAfee]

Saw. I think I saw a picture of him.

[Adam Schefter]

Good.

[Pat McAfee]

Pop up, in and out. I think he's very j.

[Boston Connor]

Training for aliens.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, he's very jocked. Could you imagine? Imagine them seeing him for the first time. What the.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is that one of us.

[Pat McAfee]

Does that guy's arms go to the middle of his shins? How does that work? And he jumps up on top of the shoulders. Yeah. Let's get to another overreaction. We need. We need more information.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Brock's not shaking those dong hands. You know that.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, no. Brock's not shaking dog hands.

[Adam Schefter]

He's fighting right off the bat.

[Boston Connor]

He's not part of the shaking hands crew. He's part of the fight crew.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. We call that them in. Call them in. John Shelly, wasted talent. Golf. This guy's so good at golf. Just can't put it together. This guy's got, like, 13 holes, 14 holes. Great golf. Puts a snowman on the scorecard, one hole carries into the next, he's got a nine. All of a sudden, he's not in tournament anymore. John Shelley. If he could piece together 18 holes. Oh, my God, three straight days, this guy's life would be so different. Guy can't putt. That's what they're saying. Yeah. Flat stick will get figured out at some point, but then he can't drive, this guy. It's. If it's not one thing, it's another. And that's John Shelly. Golf, baby. I don't want to overreact, but the Niners are dead. Shanahan's the most overrated coach in the NFL, and the world is finally starting to see it. They'll never win with him as the head coach. Jeez Louise.

[Gumpy]

A lot more of this, too.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, yeah, you're right. I'm seeing a lot of lot of Shanahan slandered now.

[Pat McAfee]

Really.

[Boston Connor]

A lot of which I didn't. NFL's figured out his offense slander.

[Pat McAfee]

Really.

[Ty Schmidt]

And people are not happy with.

[Adam Schefter]

Slow down.

[John Smith]

There's no good head coaches. Dude like Niners fans do this every year. I don't think you know how good you have it with Shanahan.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I mean I guess that's a good point. Cuz if your team doesn't win, we need to blame somebody. And the head coaches we would assume in charge of strategy and over there play call offense idea, roster construction. You know it's a lot over there with Shanahan on board. So if they don't win, I guess it does fall at his feet. And John lynch as well. They've made so many moves. They have so many. Like did Shefter tell us it's a very different team than last year. I was like, really? I don't.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bill.

[Boston Connor]

That was.

[Pat McAfee]

Bill.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bill. Bill.

[Pat McAfee]

Is it.

[Adam Schefter]

I mean Green Law is not back on defense. We know that. I think that's. That has a bigger impact than we might think.

[Darius Butler]

You know he lost. He lost a child so I think he missed his game as well. You know.

[Ty Schmidt]

Banged up.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Kind of a different.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Boston Connor]

A little bit.

[Darius Butler]

And their offense, they just haven't. You know. Yeah. It's always. They've never had their. For your kiddo. CMAC just getting back in the fold. I use for the year. Jennings had a big game but like you know that continuity.

[Pat McAfee]

I haven't given up hope on him. Nah.

[John Smith]

They'll be in the playoffs and then you don't want to see him in the playoffs.

[Ty Schmidt]

Being hurt is bad.

[Adam Schefter]

Groin.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hip, hip, hip.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like hopefully that's not a thing that just continues throughout the rest of the season.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's go to another overreaction, shall we? This one's from way out. This guy lives way out, way out there. Take this road, turn right on dirt road, take a left. Then you just go way out. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Bills are a wagon. I can't believe some dipshits picked them to finish third in the division. Coleman Kincaid and Milano are coming back. And Josh Allen is a fucking junkyard dog. No one, and I mean no one, circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills. Amen, AJ they do look like a God in the way they showed up for that CBS kickoff show. And then how they show up for Games. That's a real home field advantage. Josh Allen's balling. I love this Buffalo Beals team.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Matt Milano.

[Adam Schefter]

So I know they opened up his window. He's been practicing. Do we know when he's going to be back on the field?

[Pat McAfee]

I do not think so.

[Adam Schefter]

Either way, the fact that he's coming back is huge for them. I think he's a stud. He's a monster on their defense and they're already playing very well. And I mean Josh Allen's. Josh Allen. What are you gonna do? The guy's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

He's on the undeniable. Josh Allen. He really is just.

[Adam Schefter]

And he's smart too. Like, hey, yeah, cool. This is a big win.

[Pat McAfee]

We know.

[Adam Schefter]

Like this is a great win. Whatever. Let's see if we can beat him when it actually matters.

[Pat McAfee]

And he's not turning the ball over.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Which.

[Ty Schmidt]

The biggest difference I love.

[Darius Butler]

Huge.

[Pat McAfee]

I absolutely love for them. Good luck to the Beals in way out. Let's go to the next one, shall we? This is from free Lamar Jackson. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but John Harbaugh has got to go. Gets out class year in and year out against Mike Tomlin. Same lame ass excuses after every loss. Oh, and I forgot to mention, Justin Tucker is washed. Time to take old Yeller behind the shed and put him out of his misery. Geez Louise.

[Ty Schmidt]

Uh oh.

[Pat McAfee]

Justin Tucker miss a few kicks, take him out behind the shed and murder him.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Baltimore Ravens are the real deal, brother. Their fans are real. Yeah. Very passionate. John Harbaugh, he's won a Super bowl in the past. Yes. Now can he do it with this particular team? Always loses to the Steelers. Feels like. What's the record in the last 9?

[Boston Connor]

8 and 1. Steelers record is 8 and 1.

[Pat McAfee]

So sometimes you just got him. Right. Isn't that a case? Sometimes some teams just got him. And I guess if you're the Ravens, you just hope you don't run in the Steelers again in the AFC playoffs.

[Adam Schefter]

That's. That's the hope.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Let's not lose to them when it's an elimination game. That's the whole thing. But I still like the Ravens. I really do.

[Pat McAfee]

Me too. Great game. Robbery game. Don't think you can project the rest of the year because of what happens in the Steelers game. For both teams. I don't think either team can say, hey, this means we're going to do this or this means we're going to do this. It's just four quarters. Smash mouth football. Hell yeah. My town hates your town. Your town hates my town. My town has beat you a lot and we're going to continue to do that.

[John Smith]

They do have something going on that was very uncharacteristic. They are the most penalized team in the NFL and it's not even particularly close.

[Pat McAfee]

Damn. Most penalized. Tucker's missing kicks, obviously the defense, secondary, not great. So it's not a lot of Baltimore happening over there. People are mad at hardball for it. Is that hardball?

[Boston Connor]

Tucker didn't.

[Pat McAfee]

Sorry.

[Boston Connor]

Good.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, there's that likely play too, the two point conversion people are talking about now where like, Aguilar's lined up, likely comes over, basically like moves him offline. I have no idea what happened. I don't know if it's like they had a different, like, play in one of their heads or likely just put himself there instead of Aguilar because AQ show plays too, where Aguilar is lined up kind of as like a tight end. He's walking and likely kind of like slid in there and then the whole play was kind of from there.

[Pat McAfee]

Isn't it crazy when you win?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, right here.

[Pat McAfee]

Everything's great. Who's this from? So I can give credit to Lamar's.

[Adam Schefter]

Looking to throw it, or either. And they look like they're both set in the edge.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's what I mean. It's like a weird.

[Pat McAfee]

There's nobody out.

[Adam Schefter]

It's likely supposed to leak out or something. I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

Derek Henry. Not on the field. Who'd that come from there? Forget it. They probably just stole it from the NFL anyway. All right, let's go. Sarah Ellison. Great work, Sarah. Way to find it.

[Boston Connor]

Tucker did make a. I think it was a 54 yarder after he missed those two. And he was kicking on a different field than Boss, so, like, you gotta give him credit.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's go to another reaction, shall we? A word on life. A word on life. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Detroit Lions aren't just playing football, they're waging war. Golf is a war machine. Offensive line, fucking juggernauts, defense, terminators. They're not the best, they're The Apocalypse. Hashtag 1. Pride is no longer just a slogan. It's a statement out of a foxy. Ooh, yeah, I love this. Couldn't agree more. They have broken so many team records at this point, I can't even keep track of them. But their schedule after Thanksgiving will get really interesting. Packers, Vikings, Niners, Bills, are in there. So it's going to be very, very fun to see what they do in that stretch. Just got to stay healthy because losing hands alone, that's going to hurt a little bit. Oh, yeah. Broken arm, right? Yeah. But he'll be back for the playoffs. Okay. Yeah. They said he should be back in time for the playoffs. Who knows with Ricardo on what it actually is, Especially when you're talking about broken bones. Hope he's okay. That happening. And then what happened to Hutch? Incredibly unlucky to a couple of your defenses. Yeah. After Thanksgiving, you need to look at. Yeah. Because it goes Colts and then Bears. Okay. Yeah. This weekend. When's Thanksgiving? Thanksgiving's next Thursday.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, next Thursday.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So let's worry about the week before Thanksgiving, too. Okay. Let's make sure we're doing that. Packers, Vikings, Niners trap game. Bills trap game. No.

[John Smith]

Lions don't do well against quarterbacks that can run. We all know that.

[Adam Schefter]

They look different with AR playing like he does legit. Like I. I view them differently.

[Pat McAfee]

And AR in the film, in the meetings, learn his lesson, everything. He's all the way. He's the best version of himself, too. Let's go. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's going to be bad for the.

[Pat McAfee]

Lions over the Colts. What? What?

[Ty Schmidt]

The. The Lions are so dominant. They're going to come to Indianapolis. There's going to be a lot of Lions fans because we know how that goes.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Ty Schmidt]

Especially in recent memory.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Ty Schmidt]

And there's a chance we they get another.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, the lies. Anthony Richardson.

[Darius Butler]

Hell, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And the Detroit Lions need to be running from it come Sunday. So I actually saw tickets have gone up in price because so many Lions fans want tickets to come to. Oh, is that how you saw it? That's how I saw it. Ticket prices went up because AR is the best AR has ever been. That's why. We'll see. You guys have no idea what's about to happen in Lucas Oil in the LOD house.

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean, that'd be nuts.

[Pat McAfee]

I believe I saw. We are minus seven and a half. Wild card spot still on the line for us.

[Gumpy]

Yeah. Everything's out in front of us.

[Boston Connor]

Seven and a half front.

[Pat McAfee]

Then we gotta buy, I think.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Leave it all on the field, boys. Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Boston Connor]

Taking Thanksgiving off.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, no. You got New England.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's right. Can we see our schedule, please? Because we Colts got left here.

[Darius Butler]

Lions betting. Super bowl favors.

[Adam Schefter]

Good schedule.

[John Smith]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Lions, Patriots. Bye. There we go, boys. Got two games. They take a break.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Broncos is your Super Bowl.

[John Smith]

Need you to win that Broncos game so the. The Dolphins can sneak in the playoffs.

[Pat McAfee]

We need to win that Broncos game because we are trying to sneak into the playoffs, bud. We're also trying to win the AMC south still, depending upon what happens tonight. Yeah, we are still very much.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't even. I mean, I guess no matter what, you're kind of screwed. But whoever gets that four seat has to play the Ravens. Week one, probably, or the first weekend of the.

[Pat McAfee]

We're not worried about nothing. We're getting into the dance.

[Ty Schmidt]

We're not worried about bridging.

[Boston Connor]

Come to it, you better hope Cut isn't still.

[Pat McAfee]

If we were to win the AFC South, Tommy DeVito. I know. Week 17, he's going to be seasoned. He's going to have it all figured out.

[Ty Schmidt]

Seasoning.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, listen, Tommy Mozadell is a great story. Yeah, he is. Okay. But when Cutlitch has to play against Anthony Richardson, there's a real difference in what the hell's going on here. Just remember that that Week 17 game, we're going to be talking about the Colts still in it to win the AFC South. So we got to figure out how we take Tommy Cutlet serious is going to be the question. That's what we're going to be talking about Week six.

[Adam Schefter]

Yep.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, if he's still in there could be Drew Lock in there could be Daniel Jones.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Yeah. D.J.

[Ty Schmidt]

Might be bad.

[Darius Butler]

They're going to save that.

[Boston Connor]

Make sure they say 23 million.

[Darius Butler]

3 million. It won't be.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, okay.

[Gumpy]

I said it was strictly a football.

[Boston Connor]

Decision because the 23 million.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no.

[Boston Connor]

This isn't a Derek Carr situation. Why don't you just stay home?

[Pat McAfee]

They kicked him out of the building. Get out. How about this? How about this Saints team? How about this Saints team? Coach, that's.

[Boston Connor]

Hey, that's Riz.

[Pat McAfee]

Football. Did he tell. Yeah, that's what I'm wondering.

[Ty Schmidt]

Wait till they get the Rizzler in there.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's call him.

[Boston Connor]

Were they home? Yeah, they were home.

[Adam Schefter]

His legs didn't go numb. This game at least?

[Darius Butler]

Mvs.

[Ty Schmidt]

What do you mean?

[Boston Connor]

Last few weeks.

[John Smith]

Where's this guy.

[Darius Butler]

Cookie?

[Pat McAfee]

He has green text, so.

[Boston Connor]

Okay.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, no.

[Boston Connor]

Take action.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't trust anybody.

[Ty Schmidt]

Just construction phone. Surprised he doesn't have a ring back to him.

[Adam Schefter]

It was cool to see T some.

[Pat McAfee]

Hill do T some hill. That was cool, wasn't it? Throwing, catching, running.

[Adam Schefter]

Where's he been?

[Ty Schmidt]

Hanging out, eating weights?

[Gumpy]

He might be bringing the boom in.

[Pat McAfee]

Front of the mirror.

[Adam Schefter]

What if he answered taking a dump?

[Ty Schmidt]

He might Be waiting on a zoom with the rizzler. How do we get. How do we get you down?

[Pat McAfee]

We gotta do one of these. Red. Do one of these. We're doing these. I guess Little Costco said there is his actual name.

[Gumpy]

He did, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Go to another overreaction, shall we? Kyle in Cleveland Hashtag I don't want to overreact. Big dicks Bo Nicks is the truth. If this team makes the playoffs with a 50 million dollar anchor tied to their ankle, I can't wait to see what the Broncos can become in the next few years. On Fuck waiting for Arch, we go with Bo Hashtag Broncos country. Congrats to Kyle in Cleveland who's a Denver Broncos fan and amen. What Sean Payton's doing over there is creating a winner. Remember had to have full buy in from ownership whenever he decided to do what he did with Russell Wilson after they paid him the amount of money that they paid him before Sean Payton got there. He completely revamped that entire building, that entire team and said listen, I can make a winner if you let me. If you let me make a winner, I can make a winner. It's going to cost us more money than anybody else in the history of the NFL, but if you let me do my thing, we'll be able to win. They're doing that. Congrats, Sean. Congrats, Bo. Congrats Denver and thank you for all the hashtag. I don't want to over react but tweets. That man is on The Houston Texans -7 tonight. D Butch and I are on the Dallas Cowboys plus seven. I think all of us would say though, this is not one to bet on. This is one. Yeah. To just kind of make a pick against. We have no idea why the spread is what it is. We have no clue what Cooper Kush is going to be able to do. We have no idea if CJ Stroud is going to be able to be protected from Michael Parsons in a prime time game. We don't have a clue what's going to happen. But we do know week 11 should end with some fireworks. This game's either going to be complete ass and we can make fun of it. Sure. Or it's going to be electrifying. And we can say week 11 was the best weekend by far of the NFL season. Hell yeah. So let's enjoy this evening, man. And cast on ESPN too. AJ Great work today, pal. Can't wait to get over to Columbus, your city.

[Adam Schefter]

Boom. It's going to be sweet, man. I don't know what the weather's gonna be like. Probably a nice, awesome, crisp fall day.

[Pat McAfee]

I already got a text, I think, from Brocio that said. Oh, he said it's gonna be freezing on Friday. Okay, Friday, freezing.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm about freezing.

[Boston Connor]

Is high of 44 with rain.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He said 33 to 43 is what this one says here.

[Adam Schefter]

That was like last time. Remember last time? It was rainy and cold when we were there.

[Pat McAfee]

Absolute crop. We gotta figure out where Football West. The thought was to potentially take show there, you know, because you're there. So we don't know what to do. We'll figure it out. We're not gonna do that.

[Adam Schefter]

Just let me know. I'm good. Whatever.

[Pat McAfee]

We're not gonna do that. We're not gonna do that one right there. Maybe it's you and me standing next to that thing at that. At that table. Me and AJ just standing for three hours with you guys back here arm wrestling. Maybe Jocelyn. Like those aliens. Yeah, exactly like those aliens right there. Maybe we'll figure it out. Can't wait to get to Columbus legitimately. But that game day crowd. I'm excited to see what it is. Yeah, I'm excited to see how it works, you know, because Ohio State has hosted so many game days. So many. And we're lucky.

[Adam Schefter]

Pumped to be more pumped, though. People are juiced.

[Pat McAfee]

Not the Michigan game. You know. Still a new one, though.

[Ty Schmidt]

Which is better for game day.

[Pat McAfee]

That's better for that time. Game day.

[Adam Schefter]

It's good for those players. Good for the players. You get a good home win. You get to experience college for a night.

[Pat McAfee]

I know you say that. And I don't.

[Adam Schefter]

I say that as like. But that's one tiny part of it. And they're like, oh, this is kind of cool. I'm home and it's 4:15. I get to watch the rest of the games and do what I want.

[Pat McAfee]

As somebody who was such a low part of a totem pole that my opinion doesn't matter. I hated Newton games. I need. We need to at least feel. Feel as if this one's a. You know, could you go up for.

[Adam Schefter]

Warm ups at like 1040? And there's not a lot of juice out there kicking.

[Pat McAfee]

It's like 9am I'm out there. I'm out there like 9am for these things. There's nobody out there. I'm. I'm not a morning person naturally to begin with. Anyways. The music's crop because who's running it? Who knows? It's an empty stadium and it's like. Okay. We had more juice of practice yesterday than we do today. And it's like my job is to not this whole thing up.

[Darius Butler]

Y.

[Pat McAfee]

We got. Wait. Hey. Let's.

[Ty Schmidt]

Here we go.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's wake up a little bit here, buddy. Can we. Can we get some of those? That's. But obviously Ohio State, Indiana. You don't have to do that cuz it's a big one and the vibes are high. But I can see why Ohio State people would be like, so. Cuz we're good. We don't get to have night games anymore. All right. Sweet. Sweet. O o my kids. An opportunity to see a night game at the Horseshoe. Don't you think. Don't you think that is. This entire generation is not even going to get a chance to experience the greatness of the stadium. Why? Because the big corporate fat cats want to have this. Like that is how. That is how people at Penn State were talking about. I assume people at State are doing the same exact thing. It's still. College football season is awesome. It's electrifying. Indiana. Ohio State having the weight that it has and the gravity around it that there is. I think Oregon is guaranteed pretty much to go to the Big Ten championship.

[Boston Connor]

They are.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So now who. Who. Who else? Is it the Hoosiers? Who we find out this weekend. All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Like our friends at Dude Wipes. I need to take another thing from my mouth start. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

That's a long recovery, man. I had all four of mine taken out in high school. It's serious.

[Pat McAfee]

It's just annoying. It's just like. Annoying. Yeah. Because it's right.

[Adam Schefter]

Does it feel like a big hole? Can you. Does it feel really weird like there's a big old painful hole?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So I wasn't able to really get there because of the amount of swelling there was before and I wasn't able to open my mouth. Now I'm able to open my mouth a little bit and I can't feel it. But I think my tongue's doing too much feeling though.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

It goes over there constantly.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So now it's like almost doing too much in there. I did not know what I was signing up for.

[Adam Schefter]

I think whenever it was a big tooth though.

[Pat McAfee]

That picture.

[Adam Schefter]

That tooth. That was a bit. Actually. No, you had it. I think it was. Is that the office I think I saw it sitting on? Yeah. That thing is huge.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. It's my tooth.

[Adam Schefter]

And got some big old. Those roots. What is that? The bottom of that.

[Pat McAfee]

Gosh, Roots.

[Adam Schefter]

Good for you.

[Pat McAfee]

Those are roots. Y.

[Adam Schefter]

Good for you.

[Pat McAfee]

No cavities either. I haven't been to a dentist in 15 years. No cavities.

[Ty Schmidt]

Big ones.

[Pat McAfee]

Other than a tooth completely. That's going to happen.

[Gumpy]

You charge that to the game?

[Ty Schmidt]

Part of it.

[Pat McAfee]

Much cleaner teeth right now though. Like I look, I'm like, oh, nice, nice. They do look. Yeah. Oh, that wasn't work.

[Gumpy]

Maybe there is reason to go to the deck.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly, exactly. Maybe in like three days if this stops hurting, I'll be like, yeah, that was definitely worth it. But up until it stopped it, there's been a lot of why did I do that? I should have just kept. Because at least I could eat and drink. I couldn't have ice cream, which is a bummer with that tooth. Now I can have ice cream, which is sweet, but that's like basically the only.

[Gumpy]

It's basically the only trade off.

[Pat McAfee]

The only trade off has been this thing because with my old tooth, that big ass one, I could open my mouth, I could talk. My. Wasn't sworn. You know, I say sometimes, I mean it was. We're going through it every day. There's an opportunity to get better though. Sure. Adversity actually makes you better. Does this pain in my mouth is going to make me a better human going forward? Because I remember how much this hurts, where my mouth feels good and I'll be worrying about some little thing and I can think back like, hey, you remember when you couldn't open your mouth? Yeah. And you're a professional talker. Yeah. You remember that? That was a shitty ass time. I'll be like, oh, yeah, it was. And then boom. Perspectives put right back into place. Let's do that every day. Could be dead. Never forget it. You're alive. But are you living? Go live and experience something live. Shout to sea, geek. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. Like dude wipes. One, two, three, team goodbye.