PMS 2.0 1252 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 13 Recap, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Bill Belichick, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1252

Introduction and Thanksgiving Reflections

Timestamp: 00:00 – 02:18

Pat McAfee opens the episode with a warm welcome from the "Thunderdome," celebrating the post-Thanksgiving four-day weekend. He shares his excitement for both college football's upcoming playoff rankings and the NFL Week 13 action, particularly the Browns vs. Broncos game, where the Broncos are favored by six and a half points. Pat expresses gratitude to listeners for their support and briefly touches on his recent trip to College Station, Texas, attending a rivalry game and acknowledging Texas A&M’s significant win.

NFL Week 13 Recap and Key Game Analysis

Timestamp: 02:18 – 14:38

Pat and his co-hosts delve into NFL Week 13, highlighting the resurgence of the Buffalo Bills and the consistent excellence of the Kansas City Chiefs. Pat underscores the Chiefs' dominance in one-score games over the past three years, noting their playoff vulnerability despite their regular-season prowess:

Pat McAfee (03:51): "Chiefs are still the Chiefs. So let's never ever forget that."

Conversely, the decline of the Detroit Lions is analyzed, with Bill Belichick commenting on their defensive struggles and injuries:

Bill Belichick (34:12): "They are at a little bit of a breaking point here... teetering on the edge."

The discussion shifts to the Philadelphia Eagles, praising their offensive strategy led by Jalen Hurts and the acquisition of new talent like A.J. Brown and Dallas Goedert. Pat declares the Eagles as possibly the best team in football right now:

Pat McAfee (06:07): "I think I hate to say it, I think they're the best team in football right now."

Injuries and Player Status Updates

Timestamp: 14:38 – 30:38

The hosts discuss significant player injuries impacting team performances. Christian McCaffrey’s PCL injury is a focal point, with uncertainties about his return:

Adam Schefter (25:20): "Christian McCaffrey... it's going to be tough for him to come back."

Additionally, Trevor Lawrence of the Jacksonville Jaguars suffers a concussion, raising concerns about his availability for the remainder of the season:

Adam Schefter (30:23): "I would be surprised if we see Trevor Lawrence play again this season."

Justin Tucker of the Baltimore Ravens is scrutinized for his inconsistent kicking performance:

Pat McAfee (52:42): "There's got to be something going on because they talk about it like, you know, mentally he's going through it."

Coaching Changes and Managerial Insights

Timestamp: 30:38 – 54:16

The episode features Bill Belichick, who provides in-depth analysis on various coaching decisions and team strategies. He critiques the Chicago Bears' recent firing of Matt Eberflus, emphasizing the Bears' history of mid-season coaching changes:

Belichick (32:16): "Matt Eberflus wasn't keeping his job. It was humane to make the change."

Belichick also discusses the stability of the Cincinnati Bengals' coaching staff amidst their struggles, and the defensive challenges faced by the Detroit Lions:

Belichick (40:06): "Constructor's pass rush and how much man-to-man coverage they can actually play."

College Football Rivalries and Playoff Rankings Chaos

Timestamp: 54:16 – 79:55

Pat and the team shift focus to the tumultuous nature of college football playoff rankings following an intensely heated rivalry weekend. Pat praises Michigan’s latest victory but laments Ohio State’s unexpected loss to Michigan, highlighting the emotional and chaotic aftermath:

Pat McAfee (63:05): "Ohio State's on a fast track into the College Football Playoff. Possible one seed got some big... we'll watch the game. We will see how the game unfolds."

The hosts discuss the unpredictability of college football, the impact of the transfer portal, and the passionate rivalries that continue to fuel intense competition. They express optimism for teams like Ohio State and Penn State making strong playoff runs despite recent setbacks.

Special Guests and Segment Discussions

Timestamp: 79:55 – 132:00

The podcast includes a notable appearance by Bill Belichick, who offers his expertise on NFL strategies, player development, and team management. Belichick emphasizes the importance of situational awareness and cohesive communication between coaches and players:

Belichick (95:28): "I always felt like this was a cumulative effect. You put the situation in training camp, you work on it that day..."

Discussions also cover the potential of the Buffalo Bills maintaining their momentum, the challenges faced by the Miami Dolphins, and the evolving roles of key players like Josh Allen.

Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

Throughout the episode, memorable quotes and humorous exchanges add to the engaging atmosphere. Highlights include:

• Pat McAfee (01:40): "Congrats to y'all. And I would take no more Tyler slander. None by anybody."
• Bill Belichick (32:16): "Matt Eberflus wasn't keeping his job. It was humane to make the change."
• Pat McAfee (52:42): "There's got to be something going on because they talk about it like, you know, mentally he's going through it."

Closing Thoughts and Listener Engagement

Timestamp: 132:00 – End

In the closing segments, Pat encourages listener interaction through social media, promoting the hashtag #IDontWantToOverreact for fans to share their NFL emotions and thoughts. The hosts make their game picks for the upcoming Browns vs. Broncos match, with a consensus leaning towards the Broncos covering the spread. Pat wraps up with reflections on the show's impact and listener support, emphasizing the camaraderie and community built around the podcast.

Notable Quotes:

• Pat McAfee (06:07): "I think I hate to say it, I think they're the best team in football right now."
• Bill Belichick (32:16): "Matt Eberflus wasn't keeping his job. It was humane to make the change."
• Adam Schefter (30:23): "I would be surprised if we see Trevor Lawrence play again this season."
• Pat McAfee (52:42): "There's got to be something going on because they talk about it like, you know, mentally he's going through it."

Conclusion

Episode 1252 of "The Pat McAfee Show" offers a comprehensive dive into NFL Week 13 recaps, pivotal player injuries, strategic coaching insights from Bill Belichick, and the fervent world of college football rivalries. With rich discussions, expert analysis, and engaging banter, the episode provides valuable perspectives for both avid listeners and newcomers alike, capturing the essence of Pat McAfee's unique blend of sports expertise and relatable humor.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this magical overreaction. Monday, December 2, 2024. This program starts now. Football is amazing. There's so much going on around the sport. We are so incredibly lucky that we get to talk about it in college. Chaos is about to happen tomorrow night with the new college Football playoff rankings. Especially after everything that happened this past weekend and rivalry weekend with championship weekend ahead. I can't wait. But when you talk about the NFL now. Okay, week 13 has subsided. Now the Browns at the Broncos tonight. Broncos favored by six and a half. That's going to be a great game. Let's assume the Broncos win. Now, Jameis might do something bananas, but let's assume the Broncos win that thing. The Broncos are now in a conversation and that's kind of the beautiful part about this particular time. And you think back to Thursday, we had a snow globe. Last night we had a snow globe and now we're in the time post Thanksgiving. Hope you all had a great one. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

[Ty Schmidt]

Happy Thanksgiving holiday season.

[Pat McAfee]

Hope you had a great weekend. We had a four day weekend. Obviously had a chance to travel down to College Station, Texas, enjoy that rivalry. Learned a lot about the hatred for Texas, but we hope you had. And congrats to Texas getting a massive win down there. I picked against you. Sorry.

[Darius Butler]

Had to, had to do it.

[AJ Hawk]

Right choice.

[Darius Butler]

I do it.

[Pat McAfee]

I just felt good. Yeah. The cannon especially whenever they started selling me the dudes.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Tyler draining a 33 yarder. Exactly. An NFL extra point, 33 yards through. He would have got it up over the line, too. I was sandbagged by those dudes. I want to let you know, I was talking to Tyler all the way up until the night before. He goes, I don't know, it's 50. 50. The more I thought about it, the more I learned, the worst it got. They've been working on it at the facility. Then obviously with that big ass Texas A&M FL flag flying, $100,000 to charity on the line. We knew the dudes were going to show up.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And I'll let you know. Purple hoser had a great attitude. The tall guy, fantastic. The twins, phenomenal to be around. But the beard, Tyler, this son of a bitch could seemingly do anything. Yeah. And whenever you watch him on the Internet, everybody says, yeah, but how many, how many, how many, how many? One try.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep. Ball not even fully inflated. He even says he got a little kirky hold because they've been watching film on Herb Street's holds. He's like in the moment, showed up in a big way. It was awesome being down there. Shout out to the dudes too. $100,000 out of their pocket would have been nothing.

[Ty Schmidt]

Even though it seemed like it would have.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it sounded like they were a little bit worried about it.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And I respect and appreciate that. I do genuinely donate charity. I think they were. One of the twins said, I don't want to donate. That was awesome. That was absolutely awesome from the twins. But if you look up what they've done business wise on the Internet, like, hey, congrats to y'all.

[Ty Schmidt]

Crushed.

[Pat McAfee]

Congrats to y'all. And I would take no more Tyler slander. None by anybody. That kick was good, good, good. Even stopped him, froze him. Which leads to. Is this guy going to be kicking for the Ravens?

[Ty Schmidt]

Whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe a lot of people asking that question with Justin Tucker. I'd like to let Justin Tucker know. Hey, keep swinging, bud. Keep kicking, bud. But that is a massive storyline because Baltimore Ravens are also a team that's ready to go. There's two teams that have one loss in the entire NFL right now and both of them, we have wonders on whether or not they're going to be able to finish this season. The Detroit football L week I said best team in football. Then you start looking at all the injuries. Not only did they have on Thanksgiving, but before that coming in, here's their front seven from the beginning of the season. And all the red lines are all people that have been injured and gone. Gonna be tough to continue to win, especially against great teams down the road. You look at the Kansas City Chiefs and there's some stats coming out about the Kansas City Chiefs who get another big time win. The Chiefs lead the NFL in one score games. Okay. They're currently in nine of them. Oh, the last three years, the people that the teams that led the NFL in one score games, it was the Steelers last year. Two years ago it was the Vikings and three years ago it was the Steelers. They all lost in the first round of the playoffs. As soon as they play against a real team in the playoffs, they lose. Chiefs are still the Chiefs. So let's never ever forget that. Not calling them the Steelers or the Vikings, but speaking of the Steelers, are they all the way back?

[Ty Schmidt]

Whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

They go for over four or Russell Wilson goes for over 400 yards, 500 yards of total on offensive side, but they also give up 30 points. And Cincinnati Bengals. Fun fact about the Cincinnati Bengals is they're the. They've given up 30 points. Here we go. Win loss record scoring 33 plus points, which the Bengals obviously have done six times this year. They're two and four. What the rest of the NFL one scoring 33 points, 52 and one. What? Sorry. The Steelers back. Dang. Are the Steelers all the way back or are the Bengals potentially. What the hell. Then you go over to the NFC side, it's like this Philadelphia Eagles team, they all of a sudden they get a massive win over this Baltimore Raven squad. And Lamar Jackson, what he said afterwards, I believe in the Ravens going on still to this day. What a game. They were in it. Justin Tucker once again missed a couple kicks, leaves on the field. I think he's going to get better or they're going to put him on ir. Don't think you cut Justin Tucker. I think there's something going on. There has to be. There's no reason for him to be missing the same kick every single time. Bam, bam, bam, bam. Then he tries to push. One misses, the one to the right, then another kick goes to the right. It's like, I think if you're missing both left and right, then there's calls for, you know, full panic over here. But he's still Justin Tucker. We have to Remember that made two kicks, including a 50 yarder in this game. Even though all we're going to highlight is the misses. But nonetheless, the Philadelphia Eagles get to win in the way they're operating right now. How they're operating. Remember we told you a stat last week that the top four rushers in the NFL were like Saquon Derek, Josh Jacobs and then Saquon Barkley in the second half. That's the same exact story here with the Baltimore Ravens game. First play of the game, they hand Bo off to Saquon. He goes for like 11 or 13. Then he's kind of stumped for the first half. Now, I'm not saying stumped by Saquon Barkley standards, but then you talk about the end of the game. Saquon pops off in the second half, he goes crazy. They feel like old school Tennessee Titans with Derrick Henry. How they wear you down with this run game, wear you down with this run game. But then Jalen hurts, obviously has the capability with the weapons outside. And Dallas Goddard, who's an absolute beast to kind of open it up, feels like what Kellen Moore's cooking over there for Philadelphia. Fantastic. And then you talk about Vic Fangiol, who they were saying he was Vic too Fangie old or it was potentially Vic Fangie over on the defensive side, this Philadelphia Eagles did, I hate to say it, I think they're the best team in football right now.

[AJ Hawk]

Whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

Right there with you, Buffalo Beals. Now, of course, let's not get it twisted. What the Buffalo Beals can do and have done is nothing short of spectacular. Joining us every single Monday through Wednesday, a fantastic football brain, ladies and gentlemen, nine year NFL vet, host of everything, db, Good D, Bad D. Always looking phenomenally cool. Darius J. Butler, D Botch, Philadelphia Eagles. I think wagon. I think everybody's thinking wagon. And once again, Nick Sirianni is he. You're not even, not even getting into it. They were down. Yeah. Come back and win that game. Which obviously makes Baltimore Ravens even bad. Maybe culture and coaching does matter. Maybe Sirianni isn't just the biggest, dumbest dipshittest of all time. Maybe. We shall see. We all like that AFC side though. This Buffalo Bill, man. Everything that we had thought the Buffalo Bills were going to be, I think for the last like three, four years, we're almost seeing come to life right now. A lot of people say, and I even Talked to Gerald McCoy, who we all have a lot of respect for, obviously great on NFL game day morning. I say, hey, snow globe game tonight. Had a couple Buffalo people say, it's not going to be snow globe. Just calling for flurries. I say, excuse me, I grew up in Joe Nardo's hometown.

[Darius Butler]

Hello.

[Pat McAfee]

I know my way around a Doppler. Yeah, okay. Especially with that. We do miss you, Joe. Rest in peace. To Joe, it became a snow globe game. But remember, the conversation was these Buffalo Bills team, they might not be the right team for this. They should have a dome. Actually, the way feels like they took that all personally.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And from let James Cook to the way Josh Allen operated to Amari Cooper getting dropped into that culture, into that team and seemingly being more comfortable than he's ever been. So comfortable he's just tossing the ball in the middle of a play. This Buffalo Bills team feels for real and it is good for football.

[Darius Butler]

And I'm loving what I'm seeing. Obviously they're keeping receipts. I'm not sure if that was the real offensive coordinator Joe Brady's Twitter account, him putting that out, retweeting a video that they put out about all the talking heads, probably me included, who didn't expect this from the Bills because losing all that leadership and talent on both sides of the ball, defensively and offensively, you didn't expect this from the Bills. I know I did it. But Josh Allen, he's definitely taking that step. He's playing high, high level quarterback. He's efficient with the ball, he's taking care of it and still making special special throws. You got a stable of backs in the backfield. Obviously starts with James Cook, but Davis, Johnson, you can hand the ball off to any of those guys and they stay fresh. That offensive line have been doing a great job all year long. You've seen them on AQ's list. A wide receiver room would probably be the position group which coming into the season you had questions about. But once again with Josh Allen playing the way that he is, he can pick those guys up secure and obviously Coop, he's only been there a few weeks and he's comfortable enough to be doing shit like this. Catching the ball, pitching it back to his quarterback. I'm loving everything about him. Defensive side of the ball. Milano's getting back in the fold. He's getting his legs back up front. They got really good rushers on the back end. They got good DBs, good defense, and they're getting relatively healthy, you know, for the home stretch, the rest of their schedule. They got the Patriots twice, they got the Rams, they got the Lions and I believe the Jets. So you would expect them to win at least three or four of those, you know, going into this home stretch and you'll, you'll maybe have a team to have to go up to Western New York and play this wagon right now. But Bills, Bill's got everything right now. The top of the AFC Rams are.

[Pat McAfee]

Back to.500, obviously after a big win. They're still in a conversation over there in the NFC West. Shout to Seattle, seemingly really starting to do it. But you talk about the Patriots, that's good ball club.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, tough ball.

[Pat McAfee]

That's tough ball. That's a big win. You get a win over the Patriots, which the Indianapolis Colts did. Shane Steichen goes for two after a 19 play game winning drive up there in Foxborough, which is beautiful, but let's get back to the AFC east champions. They've already clinched five games left, this Buffalo Bills team. Let's go to the toxic table at Ty Schmidt. Hey Packers.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, hey, feeling pretty good right now.

[Ty Schmidt]

Damn good.

[Pat McAfee]

Big one on Thursday night against the Lions, obviously three headed monster in the NFC North. You guys, the Lions and the Vikings, a lot of that's about to get sorted in the next couple of weeks. They're all playing each other multiple times. Should be beautiful. And let's go to you. Obviously New England has a guy in Drake May, I think whenever you're watching that, you can tell that you guys lose that game. Colts still in it. Indianapolis Colts are still in it. Still looking for the seventh seed, even though the Broncos, I think are currently there. And the Broncos seemingly playing very good football as well. Still wide open for that game tonight. But the Apes big one, Broncos and Browns, six and a half points. But we will definitely focus on that.

[Ty Schmidt]

Definitely.

[Pat McAfee]

And we definitely talked about that one before we went live.

[Ty Schmidt]

We knew that about how big this.

[Pat McAfee]

Game is tonight after how fantastic the weekend was. But let's get back to AFC East. The first clinching division champion of the year. Five games left. Only happened, I guess four times in history. And I was a part of the team that did it last in 2009. That was the year we were undefeated.

[Gumpy]

Very good.

[Pat McAfee]

And then we chose to lose to the New York jets. And then we chose to lose to the Buffalo Bills the last two weeks. And by we, I mean the people that are on the team who had actual say. And I'm not talking about the players, I'm talking about one specific general manager. He chose a to arrest our guys. Not getting by hurt, I think because he understood that the way his roster was constructed, not a lot of depth. There's no reason to get anybody injured when we've already sealed number one seed. We're already heading into playoffs. They still got five games left. Number one seed in the AFC still up for grabs. Very much so with Kansas City Chiefs. What do you expect from this Buffalo Bills team in the AFC east that you deem dead not too long ago?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I mean, it's hard to say that they're not, you know, up there with the top tier teams that will be competing for the Super Bowl. Deba mentioned the video they put out of a bunch of people saying that the Bills are dead. I very much appreciate the admin of that account not putting me in there because I probably sat on here 4, 5, 600 times at the Buffalo.

[Pat McAfee]

I think the Buffalo Bills like us. Yeah, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Which, which is very nice because obviously I have my qualms. But the Bills window for Super Bowls will forever be open now with Josh Allen. I mean, he's throwing to Mac Collins who showed up without shoes on. Very cool, zany guy. But again, I don't think coming into the season we were like, hey, Mack Hollins is going to be making massive plays for the Buffalo Bills, you know, in week 13, week 14, closing out the season and they add Amari Cooper. That's awesome. That goes to why the Buffalo Bills window is going to be open with Josh Allen because they have, you know, a GM and Brandon Bean who's willing to go out and get guys to support Josh Allen. Obviously he can do everything. He can throw the ball, he can run the ball. But then they're o line like we talked about. Mitch Morse kind of being one of those massive pieces that they lost and there was a few others, but Deion Dawkins has been one of the best linemen.

[Pat McAfee]

I loved him with his snowboard goggles.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that was very, very cool. And they're just solid all around. There's nothing you can really look at and be like, hey, they're not great. Dalton Kincaid didn't even play last night and he was their first round pick last year and he's one of their best pass catchers. And you know, Ray Gates, you know, another rookie, they're getting guys that have contributed from day one, really. And then you add in James Cook. They really are a team that just like the Chiefs, they're going to have a Super bowl contending team for the foreseeable future when Josh Allen's.

[Pat McAfee]

And congratulations to Brandon Bean and the whole crew over there because they had to rebuild this. Yeah, you know, whenever you're great. Now, granted, they haven't won a Super bowl survey. Are they great? Are they? Yeah. Just like the Niners have been. That Christian McCaffrey injury, PCO, they're saying that's it. I mean, they mentioned Fred Warner at the beginning of the game being upset with here and everything that's being said about him. And then Josh just goes bananas against their team in the snow. And it's like there is a thought that The San Francisco 49ers deserve some grace because of the injuries and everything that has happened, but with how great they have been and how late we found out about this guy's injuries. Remember, it wasn't until the first week of the season that we found out that he had arthritis on both of his Achilles tendons. Both of them. I'm not saying that affects the pco, but anytime there's an ailing anything in your body, you know, the foot bones connected to the ankle bone, the ankle bones connected shin bone, the shin bones connected to the knee bone, and the knee bone scag and thigh bone. And then obviously the penis sits in between both of these.

[AJ Hawk]

Exactly.

[Tone Diggs]

Well said.

[Pat McAfee]

That is science. I do believe so. Who knows how much one thing affects another. Whatever the case, he gets tackled on a play, he doesn't know anything's up, then he has A torn PCO is what Kyle Shanahan's early reports are. We'll talk to Schefter in about six minutes. It's like they've just been a different team. Is it because they haven't had Christian McCaffrey also? Maybe because remember, he was the spark plug that got him going. As soon as he got dropped in there, he was throwing touchdowns, catching touchdowns, running for touchdowns, running people over, celebrating George Kittle's pancaking people, Debo Samuels doing his thing. He was kind of, you know, the straw that stirred to drink for that particular San Francisco 49ers offense. But maybe he was for the entire tone of the entire team. And obviously they have other injuries as well. But we would like to say The San Francisco 49ers excited to watch you guys get back to form next year. Not that you're all the way out of it, but. But feels like this year is going to be considered a punt for the Niners team. Now, on the flip side, this. But this feels like the year for the Buffalo Bills, for sure. And if you look at the Chiefs in all these one score games and how close and how the inability, they'll get out game, they'll get out rush that, there'll be some penalties that come.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure, it's going to happen.

[Ty Schmidt]

Penalties that don't come.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, these are things.

[AJ Hawk]

A lot of it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, okay, you know, but like this, if you're the Buffalo Bills, you have to give so much credit to Brandon Bean because just like the Patriots had to do all those years and they won Super Bowls and they had to do it. But whenever you got a great team, that means everybody wants your players, which means there's bidding wars, which means contracts go up. And when there's an actual salary cap, even though you can do gymnastics and you can kind of dance around it for a while, you're going to have to like reimagine your team. You're going to have to be able to draft somebody that's going to have to replace a household name. You're going to have to get somebody for much cheaper than what you've been paying somebody at a very key pivotal position. And the fact that they've been able to just reload as opposed to rebuild in this particular season, you know, and a lot of people talking about at the beginning of season, who's going to play safety back. You put tomorrow Hamlin back here, it's like, yeah, bingo. Yeah, tomorrow Hamlin, he's going to play back there. And he was getting Mocked and ridiculed at the beginning of the year. Now it's like their defense is. I think their defense can win them a game if they have to do it all. It's like congrats to the Buffalo Bills for being able to reload instead of rebuild. And obviously very timely turnovers helped and everything like that. But it's like, I'm so pumped for being in that Bill's mafia. I mean, they want this every single game. They want this every single game. And I think for the first time in the Josh Allen era, we can all confidently say that team's built to play in that type of weather as opposed to home field advantage. May be in a detriment, maybe helping another team, maybe not being what our MO is. It's like last night, you see Ray Davis diving in. You see James Cord looking like he's fine. You see Mario Cooper toss. It was like they look like they were having fun.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

In that weather, they look like they were all in and very confident. It's like that's a dangerous team. If they're against The San Francisco 49ers, they're doing that. Who knows what mentality that leads to going forward.

[AJ Hawk]

And with Josh Allen, I think we were kind of always waiting for, you know, the, the other shoe to drop in past years, but this is like the first time in his career you can confidently say, like, he's not going to try to put everything on his shoulders and have that back breaking turnover, that interception, or him, you know, holding the football like a loaf of bread, trying to create an explosive play. Like he's protecting the ball and just everything's coming up aces. Then defensively, when Matt Milano got hurt at the start of the season, everyone kind of just wrote him off. It's like, okay, well, you look at, they lost all these guys already. Milano's kind of like their linchpin. They lose him like. And that was still kind of when everyone had jets fever. And now at this point, you look at them, it's like it is hard to argue that. You know, obviously there's some other very good teams in the afc, but it's tough to watch them play and not think like, no one wants to go play Buffalo right now. Especially if you're going into Buffalo and playing in two feet of snow.

[Pat McAfee]

If the Chiefs weren't back to back super bowl champions, Right?

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Right now they're just winning games. They're 11:1. Yeah. You know, everybody, they haven't even played their best football yet. They're 11 and 1 if the Chiefs didn't exist, this would be a non starter Beatles vs it the Lions or the Eagles. That would be. The packers fans would be pissed, Vikings fans would be pissed. But the NFC would have its full discussion and then it would be Buffalo Beals and then Lamar Jackson. Yeah, right. Right after. Yeah, it'd be Lamar Jackson right afterwards. But now because the Chiefs are in the back to back, you always have to respect that. Like hey this team wins somehow. Is it the football God's blessing them with a flag or a non flag? Maybe. Is it them being able to squeak one out when other people aren't able to do it? Maybe. Is it them being able to make a play whenever it's needed even though the likelihood of the play actually happening is so slim that on maybe is it because they're able to make the kicks other people aren't able. Whatever the case, they win. Like that is what Kansas. The Chiefs is still the Chiefs into the Chiefs where are no longer the Chiefs and people are thinking that's right now they're 11 and 1. Right? Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

But to the Bills too. Like it's all well and good. We can talk about all this stuff about how great they look but like ultimately until they beat the Chiefs in.

[Pat McAfee]

The playoffs, like nobody cares.

[AJ Hawk]

Exactly. None of this matters.

[Darius Butler]

Including them. Yeah, they know they top that list. Josh Allen, we've been talking about him in MVP conversations for years now. We always talk about how you know how many the numbers he put up and then obviously we remember the 13 seconds. But yeah, none of it matters if they can't get over the humps that Chiefs is 11:1. And still I still can. Chiefs, still the Chiefs. So I know they haven't figured out. I'm more concerned about the defense. That defense surprisingly just is not on the same page as they were last year. But I still expect Patrick Mahomes to still be right there once those would be okay.

[Pat McAfee]

To your point about the mvp, let's go to a person that actually has a vote. 1/2 of the hammer don't Cowboys AP Tone what happened in week 13 that either changed your MVP projection list or what does your watch list look like for your Associated Press vote for the MVP this upcoming season?

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, for my, for my AP vote for mvp I got a top four right now. And you guys been talking about Josh Allen a lot. He is the odds on favorite at all sportsbooks minus around minus 250@ all sports sports sportsbooks is Josh Allen. Now he has 26 total touchdowns to five interceptions. Like those numbers are just absurd. And obviously when you're leading one of the best teams in the AFC and it's basically not on his back. Obviously the running game is incredible, but it all goes through Josh Allen and then Lamar. Even with the loss to the Eagles, Lamar has 32 total touchdowns. The three interceptions.

[Pat McAfee]

So good.

[Tone Diggs]

And if you look at the film, like the three interceptions, like they've been all been deflections and stuff like that. Like Lamar is playing better. This is his best year yet and he's won two MVPs already.

[Pat McAfee]

People are waiting for him to miss too, so they can make fun of him or whatever. It's like this dude throws seeds. Yeah, he overshot Mark Andrews in the first series. Jalen Hurts, overshot A.J. brown the first. It felt like they were like kind of getting there. And then there's a touchdown to Mark Andrews immediately afterwards where the ball is thrown in one spot. And it's right where Mark and Lamar has become elite. Right here, right here and here. And you. Let's talk about Lamar Jackson being on this. Did you hear his post game interview?

[Tone Diggs]

Uh huh.

[Ty Schmidt]

Uh huh.

[Pat McAfee]

Awesome here. You know, and I think what happened against the Chiefs last year in the AFC Championship or whatever, was he. They didn't run the ball.

[Tone Diggs]

Nope.

[Pat McAfee]

He just threw the ball. Threw the ball, threw the ball, threw the ball. And there was a lot of people saying that he could have ran, he could have ran. Then there was a narrative saying Lamar wants to kill the narrative that he's a running back playing quarterback. He wants to win by being a quarterback. And I don't know if Lamar heard that or he thought that, but here's the conversation he had with his mom after yesterday's game. After losing by five to the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Gumpy]

I feel like there were some opportunities.

[Bill Belichick]

To run today for you that you may have passed up.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, my mama just told me that she just, she just cussed me out. So like I'm, I'm mad. So like, we gonna get after it, bro. I ain't gonna lie to you.

[Pat McAfee]

We gonna get after it.

[Darius Butler]

I can't wait to this box get, get on like we got the Giants coming up.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm ready to go. Like that's what I'm saying. I'm just Giants.

[Gumpy]

She cuss you out about.

[Darius Butler]

She said it was lanes I should.

[Pat McAfee]

Have took and ran. But you know, I was just trying to let guys develop routes.

[Darius Butler]

We had developing routes.

[Pat McAfee]

I was just trying to go through my progression. But yeah, she right. I'm going to do my. I'm sorry, I'm sorry for this.

[Darius Butler]

I'm just mad cu.

[Pat McAfee]

We.

[Darius Butler]

I feel like we should win these games and we.

[Pat McAfee]

We not getting them done. Not just tonight, but the last few. Have you been making a concerted effort to run less? It seems like they're having. No, that's.

[Darius Butler]

That's not on my mind. No, that's not on my mind.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm just trying to let things happen and trying to get my guys opportunities.

[Darius Butler]

Of getting the ball.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's all.

[Darius Butler]

They're going through my progressions.

[Pat McAfee]

So hearing that makes me think like, okay, I'm betting on Lamar going forward, but if his mom did tell him that and that's how he took it, it's like Giants. First of all, good luck. Good luck. Yeah, that's tough pulling for you guys. But also the rest of the year, if Lamar is going to get back to. And I'm not saying get back because he rushed for like 79 yards or something like that. This is not a thing like that. But if he does get to the point where he's starting to run a little bit earlier, maybe it's like there's only one Lamar Jackson on earth. So when you talk mvp, those stats that are bananas. You said how many touchdowns? 32.

[Tone Diggs]

32 total to three interceptions.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. And then if he's just going to pick it up more on the ground and those touchdowns are going to keep coming, look out for him to close out strong. But there's a running back up there now, Tone.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah. I mean saquon's averaging almost 150 total yards a game. Like that's. That's crazy. That's. That's absurd. Like we talk about him being the leading rusher in the league and then also the fourth leading rusher. If you only do his second half stats like. And Saquon. Yeah, I mean the offense is great with Jalen and A.J. brown and everything, but I mean Saquon is the creme de la creme.

[Pat McAfee]

He really is. I mean, since joining there, it's just like what happened with Christian McCaffrey with San Francisco. They understood Saquon. It seems like they all appreciate Saquon too. They said he's great. Jamal Singleton, coach Singleton, running back, is a running back coach. He was with Indianapolis. He's good vibes guy. We're talking like love that great energy all the time. I think he told a commentator whenever they zoomed in on him, he had a good beer going. He did look good. So it was late in the season. You know, he comfortable after Thanksgiving, but he had a Good beard there. And I think he took. What's that? Okay. Yeah. All right. So anyways, he said that, like, Saquon's energy in the locker room is, like, infectious, too. You're talking about getting like a home run human and a home run player in Philadelphia. So how last year ended for the Eagles, I think a lot of people over there, like, if Saquon's on our team, obviously we're just going to continue to ride that. And then with the way that defense playing. Jalen Carter played 72 out of 73 of the snaps yesterday, I think. I think 72 out of 70 wreaking havoc. He's playing like 84% of the snaps this year or something like that, which I think is the most among D tag or something, whatever the case is. Or he. It's like Fangio's defense flying around. Saquon is the added P. It's like, hey, it was like when Tordol was offered. Okay. Like, hey, do you want this thing that's going to make you better immediately? Yeah, sure. Yeah, please. It's like when salt was introduced to food. Hey, do you want this thing that's going to make this food better immediately? Yeah. Hey, do you want this running back for 13 million bucks, 107th highest salary in the entire league that's immediately going to make everything on your team better? Yeah, is what the Philadelphia Eagles said. And what do the New York Giants say on camera?

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean, we don't want to embarrass him, but we can offer him like 7 million bucks, something like that, and.

[Pat McAfee]

Then try to trade them franchise that. We're not a franchise.

[AJ Hawk]

We can find a couple other guys.

[Pat McAfee]

That's all on camera. I saw it happens everywhere. But there's a chance running back wins MVP for the first time. Long time. And then you look in college, Travis Hunter's winning. That Highsman, I think he's had like minus 10,000.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Tone Diggs]

Could be.

[Pat McAfee]

In the dawning of a new day, is the old football now the new football, ladies and gentlemen. Joining us now is the knower of all things happening within football, Senior NFL Insider for ESPN Michigan. Man. Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter.

[Adam Schefter]

Hold on. I'm just getting done planting my flag over here.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. All right, Chef. That's a Michigan thing to do. That's very Michigan. Hey, I appreciated that. Mason Graham is doing his interview, doing his interview. Helmet off. You know, Shroom Moore comes in, gives like a 35 second promo and says, talk to him. You don't even talk to me. He leaves. They just got the number one quarterback in the country last week. Future is going to be very bright up there. And then Graham's given an interview, talking about his team, super humble. Then hears the commotion, turns around, immediately puts the helmet on, straps up. It's like awareness. There's a lot of things that happen within this that can't be happening again. Okay. Obviously, can't have people on the ground. Can't be doing this entire thing. Cops having to pepper spray people to settle it down. I think the cops actually started pepper spraying people because there was multiple people on the ground, didn't want to get trampled. Whatever the case, it's all gonna go to it. I respect. Okay. And I know I'm gonna be one of the only people in sports media that says this and understand the mindset of the Jack Sawyer or the people at Ohio State saying, hey, you're not playing a flag on our field. And people are going to say, well, win the game. They won't do it. It's like, these dudes work out on that field. These dudes live on that field that is there. So I can see how if you're still out there and somebody's dancing in your face, you get into a altercation. Rival. Now, do we think that there should be flags just being planted on every field? No. Do we think people should be fighting? No. But I can see how this could happen. Didn't just happen here, though. Shefty. There's like five of them. Yeah. Rivalry weekend I thought was going to be dead. Whenever it comes to large emotions, that's UNC got thrown NC State flag out of the stadium. Then they obviously get into it. Florida, Florida State, they get into it. Arizona, Arizona State, they get in. I mean, it was just awesome. It was like, I thought rivalries in this generation are going to be dead. People transfer too much. They don't have love of school. They don't have hatred of other school. And it's like this was the most heated rivalry weekend there had been. So obviously there's going to be sanctions, there's going to be new rules put in so it doesn't take place. But I think we can find some silver linings in this if we want. Oh, guys still care.

[AJ Hawk]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Mascots can throw bombs and we must protect this house. It's still a mindset that's right. By a generation that a lot of people thought were soft. So there's a lot of good, there's a lot of bad. Hopefully they'll figure it out. But nonetheless, congrats to your Michigan. Whoa. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot. Dude, it was a.

[AJ Hawk]

It was great.

[Pat McAfee]

It was a chaotic Saturday, college football. But congrats to your Michigan team, Chef.

[Ty Schmidt]

What a win.

[Pat McAfee]

Congrats to Michigan, too. Now, what are you gonna say? You gotta break the news right now. Somebody get fired?

[Adam Schefter]

Yep, yep. Hold on a second.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, no, you just say. Just say it's coming out. By the time you say it, it'll tweet.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, Dabel.

[Tone Diggs]

Jesus.

[Pat McAfee]

It is always during our show, he gets an update from the Giants.

[AJ Hawk]

That's true.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

It's always like a Daniel Jones will be the starter. Daniel Jones will the. Obviously, Daniel Jones.

[Adam Schefter]

Daniel Jones is not starting Sunday. We know that. Right?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, he's on a practice squad. You don't know. You tell me. You don't know.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

All right.

[Adam Schefter]

Not a big surprise, but obviously disappointed nonetheless. But tests today showed that Taysum Hills got ligament damage out for the year.

[Pat McAfee]

Damn. Taysom was getting just back to being Taysom. Godspeed on the recovery, Taysom. That sucks. Obviously, down there for New Orleans. The NFC south has become, you know, Falcons, bucks right now with a lot of questions around them. Saints with interim coach Rizzy brought back the Taysom Hill effect. Now it is over. Let's talk about another injury that took place yesterday. Christian McCaffrey. I think Kyle Shanahan said it was a PCO injury. Yeah, it is. Okay. It is a piece.

[Adam Schefter]

It's a pcl. And he did get hurt right here. This was the play. And, and. And Christian pointed it out to me because I thought it was the play before. And he said, no, it was this play. This is the play where he was basically injured, went down, banged in a PCL injury. Not good. And now, again, it's potentially season ending. I would think that in the spot they're in, with everything that he's been through, it's going to be tough for him to come back. We'll see what the tests today shows. He's having an MRI to determine the full extent of the damage. But it is a PCL injury. Look, I mean, this whole season has felt off. We've talked about it on the show. They have lost so many players and have just been unable to generate any positive momentum. Every time they've won a game or done something good, it just feels like there's something that goes wrong. Like it. It's been that way all year long. And you get back McCaffrey, and he looked last night, like, explosive. He looked unbelievable. He looked great in the early part of the game and then he goes and he gets hurt on that play and it's a PCL injury. So we'll see what the tests say. You got to figure Kyle Shanahan said it was a multi week injury and by the time he's healthy, the season's probably going to run out on them.

[Pat McAfee]

So what is there? Acl, mcl, pco. Right. Is the three that are in there. I think the, the acl, the interior, the P is the posterior. And I guess it's not automatically season ending. It sounds like you say potential week to week. Is there surgery for this? Do you know anything more about, you.

[Adam Schefter]

Know, I don't know yet. Again, we'll see what the MRI shows. I'd like to make some calls on it before I speak medically about something I'm not smart enough to do. But I know that we're looking at a multi week absence here and by the time he's able to come back, assuming that he can come back, which he might not even be able to do this season, their season may be gone.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it is. I talked about it at the Open. It's like feels like this is just going to be a season the Niners going to have to, you know, bury the ball and then just hopefully move on to next season. There's no worries over there, right? For anybody.

[Adam Schefter]

I mean, I don't think so. Here's how I always think about it because I think you're asking about the head coach or the gm, right? If they want to.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo.

[Adam Schefter]

Move on from John lynch or Kyle Shanahan, which I've gotten zero indication that they want to do. How quickly do you think it would be before there would be another team that would want to hire both of them?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh yeah, very quickly. Yeah. Which. Let's go to another second. Let's go to another situation that opened up while we had our break. Chicago Bears fire Ebrafluce after whatever that was at the end of the game. Egregious would be an understatement for that entire operation. But the guy who was actually in Caleb Williams head headset during that whole debacle is now the head coach of the Chicago Bears. So obviously Eber Fluss. This is not the first time that something coaching malpractice worthy seemingly took place for the Bears. Why was this the one that inevitably makes them move on from Eberflusse? And what do you think the future looks like for the Bears as a whole with Polls as the general manager?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, as for why they made the change Then I think everybody knew that this was coming. There was a question at the end of last season about whether or not they would keep Matt Eberflust. They made the decision to keep him on. And then what was amazing is if you go back to the Hail Mary game, if they win that game, they go to 5 and 2, 5 and 2. And not only did they give up the Hail Mary, but the play before, there was a lot of questions about where he allowed the sideline pass to Terry McLaurin for about 12 or 13 yards. That enabled the commanders to get into range where they could throw the Hail Mary. And Matty Refleuss defended that. And there were a number of on field decisions like that that left Bears officials and fans wondering what is going on. And I think when that last play happened, it just became obvious the team was all riled up and upset. Everybody knows what's coming. And at that point in time, like Jim Nance was critical of it during the broad. Jim Nance, like, I criticized too many people. Jimmy Johnson said it was the worst coaching decision he's ever made. I mean, everybody weighed in. Matt Ryan's blasting the decision, what are we doing? You know, they're making the change. And in all honesty, it was humane to make the change. Matt Eberfluss wasn't keeping his job. The only inhumane thing was that they didn't delay the start of the press conference on Friday from 10am Central to say, hold on, we're going through some things. We'll let you know when he's available. And then not trotted him out there. I don't understand that still. It's a slight thing, but it's something that means, you know, this guy's getting fired. You didn't have to meet to discuss this. This had been building for weeks. It was coming.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And I'm fully preparing coach this weekend, I think was his actual answer. He had to answer numerous times from people and then he gets off the call. I remember looking at my phone being like, all right, I guess Heber Fluss gets another week. Because that's not what the Bears do. The Bears don't. That's just not their M.O. it's just like when Mike Tomlin fired offense coordinator Matt Canada last year. Like, not his M.O. to fire anybody in the middle of season. I'll take the blame for it. We'll keep it moving. The Chicago Bears, yeah. For the first time, they don't do it. So that's what I thought after his press meeting or whatever was like, all right, The Bears is the Bears. Like, that's just what the Bears are. Then when that comes in the afternoon, it's like, damn. Now Thomas Brown, who's quarterback coach, what, three weeks ago, is now doing okay with the offense. Now you're the head coach, you got to add some more stuff. It's like fascinating times up there in Chicago. Caleb's kind of not been talked about for that last play and the lack of awareness.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, not really.

[Darius Butler]

Definitely his fault, too.

[Pat McAfee]

He's a part of. He's a rookie quarterback. So obviously these are all things you learn from. But it was like while you're watching that whole thing, you're kind of embarrassed for them as a football team. You're kind of like, hey, this is. It's like, what would happen in college ball? And then something would take place and then the coach would be able to say, oh, I made this decision last week, and everybody be like, yep, well, that's what he did in the NFL. It's just a very different operation with how smart everybody is, especially with Nance and Romo on the call. Good luck to Chicago and Caleb, I think Caleb's player. I think Caleb looked better. He's a damn, damn good player. All right, we have some questions about some other stuff popping off around the NFL. Pittsburgh gets a huge win over Cincinnati. Tone Diggs has a question for you.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, Chef, I was in the stands for that game, and so I got a vibe of the. The fans in Cincinnati, and boy, do they. They are not happy with that coaching staff, especially on the defensive side. And I know the Brown family probably doesn't want to want to pay a couple coaches. So is Zach Taylor's job safe? Is Lou Anarumo's job safe? What's the situation in Cincinnati?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I think that that's been a very historically stable organization, and I think those are good coaches. Like Lou Anarumo has been talked about as a head coaching candidate for a number of years now. And now because the season is going the way it is, Bengals fans, obviously not happy. Zach Taylor has done a great job. This team has won in the playoffs. Season is not working out. So I think when a team goes through a season like this and their record falls to four and eight the way it is now, that's something they're going to be evaluating again. I think that those guys have typically been really strong coaches, and this has been a stable organization, so it would surprise me, but when the team is 4 and 8, anything is always possible.

[Pat McAfee]

I watching the stats that Hembo sends over about the Cincinnati team just continue to pile up. It's like Joe Burrows just sitting over there with his head about to explode. Especially, you know, Jamar Chase T the whole everything they're doing over there and then on defense side, can't stop a nosebleed. And Tone. Tone described the sense.

[Adam Schefter]

One thing about this, though, here's what I begin to wonder. Like you bring up the coaches like, you know, just watch some of the guys like more Chase and Joe Burrow like they can't be real happy right now. Of course they can't be real happy right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Or the fans not even giving a high five to Moose mouth is just trying to spread a little holiday cheer, a little joy in Cincinnati. They said there's none of that. The I believe the way Tone described the Cincinnati Bengals defense is not something we should necessarily say. But if you're. Your offense is going through a little bit of a lull right now. You go ahead and visit Cincinnati and all of a sudden there's, yeah, hey, our offense can win Super Bowl. Yeah, that's not good. That obviously that's not good. We assume things are going to change. I said Thomas Brown was quarterback coach, passing game coordinator.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Now head coach after a few weeks feels like, you know, you get in put in that role. It's a chance for you to showcase how good of a head coach you can be. Good luck to him. You know, NFC north is tough. Speaking of the NFC North, Ty has a question for you.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, Chef D. You look at the Lions and for whatever reason, you know, we talk about this 49ers being snake bit, the Lions front seven on defense. I mean, we went through the list. It's like you got maybe one or two bodies left standing. What do you think the level of concern is for the Lions moving forward here? Especially when you consider that the Vikings and the packers just continue to win and they don't really have that margin of error in the division to lose a couple games.

[Adam Schefter]

You know, Ty, that's an unbelievable list. Just put that up there one more time. I want to talk about that. Like, look at how many players they've lost. And I don't.

[Pat McAfee]

Good players, not just players.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, I know. I don't care. I don't care who you are and how good you are. And they have been as good as any team in football. It gets to a certain point where you just have a hard time replacing these guys. And I mean, to me, they're at a little bit of a breaking point here. And this defense just, it's going to struggle to be as good as it was. The pressure is going to be now on Aaron Glenn. The pressure is going to be in the offense because they're going to have to score more. You can't keep losing good players and think that everything is just going to keep going the way that it has. Like they signed Quan Alexander on Friday. That I like that pickup. They signed Jamal Adams yesterday. They're signing guys off practice squads and off the streets to try to keep alive a potential championship season. That's what they're doing right now. And this always is a war of attrition in this league. Always. And the good teams overcome injuries, but there's only. Only so many of those you get to overcome before at some point it begins showing up on the field. And I just kind of feel like they're teetering on the edge there right now. Like, I don't know how many more guys they can lose and still play. Like this great Lions team that we've seen.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You say the good teams get through them, and I agree because there's depth on the good teams where they're able to find a gem that maybe is able to fill in for somebody. There's a lot of misfortune and luck, too.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

If you get the wrong people hurt at the wrong time. Like this Christian McCaffrey injury all year, I think, has been the San Francisco 49er moxie sucker. You know, they don't have the same moxie as they had in years past. These injuries to this particular Lions team, it's, I mean, Aiden Hutchinson, you think to yourself, damn, how you going to go on? And they somehow did. Then Anzalone, who's like their second, he goes down. Then more injuries happen the same. It's like, damn, how can they survive? How can they survive? They're winners up there, though. They're winners up there in Detroit. And that's what made losing in the NFC Championship so heartbreaking last year because we did stay relatively healthy the entire season. And it was like, are we really going to stay that healthy for two straight seasons with how mcdc and Aaron Glenn play football? I don't know. And clearly we're not. And so I didn't even think about that. How there's the Lions hangover. Now. Granted, teams are 2 and 11. Yep, 11 after playing the Detroit Lions because the Colts get a win over the Patriots. But we always talk about the other teams that play the Lions have to take. It's like at some point, you know, it's so Strange, too, because they're all on defense. The offense has stayed healthy all season, so I don't know what's up with that either. That's because you guys just run a wide open seemingly all the time. Got all the code words out, though, huh?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Tone Diggs]

What's that all.

[Pat McAfee]

What does that mean?

[Ty Schmidt]

Come on, what's going on?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, they're gonna have to re. Remember all these code. They're gonna have to use new code words, which they probably already have. But that was certainly. As somebody who has posted a photo inside of a building before, sure. That in the background is about as bad as it can get. There's a lot of them. But be who you can afford to be. Jameer Gibbs is a dog.

[AJ Hawk]

He's a good player.

[Pat McAfee]

He is a great player. We'll get past this. We will change the words. We will be a. Okay, if this is anybody else now, you are. You are cut. And we're gonna actually just erase the whole. All right, that's what we're going to do. But I think Lions are going to be able to figure it out. But the injuries do scare the shit out of me. Speaking of injuries, D. Bud has a question for you. Chef.

[Darius Butler]

We kind of open the show up talking about these two teams in their respective conference. Two of the best teams, the Eagles and the Buffalo Bills, who have both remain relatively healthy. Getting more healthy pass catchers, big time pass catchers that have been on the shelf. Keon Coleman, Dalton Kincaid for the Bills and then Devontae Smith for the Eagles. Any updates for those guys?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, the interesting part is Kincaid hasn't even practiced, so I would think that that may be still a little bit of time here. Keon Coleman was close to getting out there this week. Was limited in practice. They felt like there was a chance he wanted to go. I don't think he's too far away. And I think Devonte Smith will be back this week because he was close to playing yesterday in the game and it just felt like they were erring to the side of caution. But to me, Devonte is the closest one to getting back. Coleman next, and then Kincaid. I think devonte's back this week for the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Pat McAfee]

Man, this. This Philadelphia Eagles team's fun, dude. This Saquon Barkley thing with the hard knock situation with the burial of Sirianni every single day.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

In the 24. 7 sports cycle for the first nine weeks of the season, it's like they look powerful, brother. Is Big Dom. Is Big Dom on? Is he doing more this year than Years past. Do we know?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, they gave him more duties. They gave him a bigger title, a larger role, more money.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

So, you know. Hey, you know that Big Don was approached with a movie deal? They want to do a movie deal about his life.

[Ty Schmidt]

Rambo 7.

[AJ Hawk]

I thought they weren't beating the new James Bond.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no. Only English people, I think, do James Bond. Right.

[AJ Hawk]

Make an exception.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. No, no, it's not. He's not acting in one of these film. They're not doing Rocky again either. Whatever.

[Tone Diggs]

It was like goodwill hunting.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I don't think it's only fans or Goodwill hunt. I don't think it's any of these things. 43 million. Did you see that?

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Jesus.

[Tone Diggs]

To play Gandolfini.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I don't think he's doing that either.

[Ty Schmidt]

Might be the new home.

[Pat McAfee]

He said somebody wanted to write a mo. No, I don't think he's Hulk Marvel.

[Ty Schmidt]

Captain America, Captain Italy, if you will.

[Pat McAfee]

No, and I don't think he's going into Moana 3. But. But there's a chance. What? So they want to write a movie about his life?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, they want to do a movie. His life. Of his life. You know, like, he's a big. He's a big star, and he didn't want the attention. He didn't want the money. He was offered a lot of money to do a movie about his life. Not happening.

[Ty Schmidt]

There is a movie about his life.

[Pat McAfee]

What's it called?

[Ty Schmidt]

Invincible Bradley Cooper.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I mean, we don't know. Boy, Eagles fans are all in.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, my God.

[Pat McAfee]

I might have got a text from one that we just mentioned there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Boy, we're strong. We are strong. Eagles fans are believers.

[Adam Schefter]

It's the. It's the reverse of last year. Last year, they crashed and burned as it went on, and this year they seem to be getting better as the season goes on. It's the reverse of last year. So you'd like to think that they learned something from last year. And. And you go and add some of the players that they did, like Saquon, like Queen on Mitchell, like Cooper DeJean, who hit Derrick Henry yesterday.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. What is his nickname alongside that other white boy on the defensive side? Do you know what they call themselves?

[Adam Schefter]

What do they call themselves?

[Pat McAfee]

Is it real?

[Adam Schefter]

I don't know, but look at that.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. What? What was that? Watch. What was that? What was that?

[Adam Schefter]

There aren't too many people that do that to Derrick Henry. I'll just say that. I don't know what that.

[Pat McAfee]

That's.

[Adam Schefter]

That's Impressive is what that is exciting, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Kind of. Was that kind of exciting or no?

[Bill Belichick]

I don't know.

[Adam Schefter]

It's. It's. It's a. Again, you don't see too many defensive backs in the open field. Toss back Derrick Henry.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, not only that. We're talking about. And then talk your shit afterwards, obviously. You know, if that was an exciting play to you and he is a white boy. I guess they are. They are dubbed the exciting Watts of the Philadelphia Eagles. If you would like to report that that is their name.

[Adam Schefter]

Okay, There you go.

[Pat McAfee]

What did I say? Their names are the Exciting Whites.

[Ty Schmidt]

What was that?

[AJ Hawk]

Kind of like that. I like that collection.

[Ty Schmidt]

Change to that instead.

[Pat McAfee]

Say that over again just for the movie.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm not going to do it again.

[Pat McAfee]

Sorry.

[Ty Schmidt]

We already got it.

[Pat McAfee]

Make sure you put it in a tweet.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm dumb, but I am at that. Dumb.

[Pat McAfee]

Make sure you put it in. Yeah, we already got the clip, obviously. Exactly.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm sure we'll never see that again.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, but if you. That, hey, we're just. This is journalism standards. That is what they're calling themselves, the exciting whites. And I'll tell you what, almost immediately after that play, there was a pick by another white boy in the back of that thing. The Philadelphia Eagles are fun to watch flying around, moxie through the roof. And you talk about instead of crashing at the end of season, they're only getting better. If you look at and you talk about everybody they're adding. You look at Saquon, first quarter, second quarter, third quarter, fourth quarter, it's like they're getting better as the games go on, they're getting better as the season goes on. They're completely built the right way as opposed to what happened last year. And shout, the Cam Juergens going in there, filling in for like the greatest center of all time, Jason Kelsey, and kind of picking right where he left off. Now, from the top of the charts, let's go to the bottom of everything. Conman has a question for you.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Shafty, a little bit of a scary scene in Jacksonville yesterday with Trevor Lawrence getting obliterated. And then, you know, he locked up, clearly got a concussion immediately. What's his status? And then going to Doug Peterson, also in Jacksonville, obviously not much hope for the rest of the season. What's his status going forward as the head coach down there?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, there's been a lot of talk about the Jaguars making changes, and they haven't made any changes. And it sounds like they're just going to ride this out till the end of the season. And what I found interesting yesterday is that their left tackle, Walker little, signs this three or $45 million extension before the game and the general manager, Trent Balki, did that deal. Now, there's been a lot of questions about his future and Doug Peterson's future, but they're handling this organization like they're going to be there, like they're operating now. Do we think that that's going to be the case? No, I think that there's going to be some change that comes there, but it certainly sounds like they're going to wait till the end of the season here before they make any changes. And Trevor Lawrence goes down yesterday on that hit which the Texans linebacker Aziz Al Shire is going to get suspended for. The question is how long. But that'll happen here soon where he's going to get suspended for that hit right there. Trevor goes down with a concussion, carted off. You see the melee in a weekend of all sorts of sportsman like activities. Here was the latest example.

[Pat McAfee]

Once again, I think the fight was warranted.

[Darius Butler]

This is had to have.

[Pat McAfee]

I can see how teammates would fight in that particular situation. I think Aziz, in his response, he apologized to Trevor Lawrence and also said to the Jacksonville Jaguars fans, players, I understand completely why you reacted the way that you reacted after watching it. He said he thought it was a little bit of a late slide. He already made up his mind, bang, bang. Everybody else with eyes said that's not the case. He came out, apologized, always scary. Obviously can't have us in a game. And that's what the suspension is going to be for. Yeah, that's what suspension is going to be it.

[Darius Butler]

Well, I mean that's, that's the kind of player you want, you want players, some players, you know, linebackers, D lineman who kind of toe that line. It was kind of a late slot or whatever. But you see players have gotten so good at avoiding those hits because you know how protected players, especially quarterbacks are and that's a tough, tough spot to be in as a defender for sure. I'm sure we're looking at back for him. He probably regrets it because he's going to miss some time now and obviously miss some money. But at the same time, that's kind of a football player.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he got into a fight earlier. I mean there is, he's got the C chest and D'Amico has went to bat for him a lot of times. Like, hey, this is who we are. If you're on the field, we're going to Hit you. Everybody that watched this one, though, thought this was dirty and late and Aziz has to wear that. That's what he's going to get fined, get suspended. And we hope Trevor Lawrence is going to be ok. Yeah, we hope. Hope that was scared on. Well, go ahead.

[Adam Schefter]

Trevor Lawrence. They're 2 and 10. He's been dealing with a left shoulder injury. He's now got the concussion. I would say, frankly, in my opinion, I'd be surprised if we see Trevor Lawrence play again this season. Like, why are we putting him out there? To me, it's time to rest him up and start getting him ready for 20, 25. He was dealing with a shoulder injury that he was playing through that was hard enough to be out there. Now you get this massive blow to his head where he has to be carted off. Why are we going to go put him back out there at 2 and 10? Like, what are we doing?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, to me, he doesn't play. Yeah, that was his.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, he, he's extraordinarily tough.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

And he plays through everything. But somebody, somebody needs to tell him in his best interest, you shouldn't be playing again this season.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll be excited to see how that works out, especially with the new deal. 55 million. One of the only attractions on that team. The Khan family, I assume, would like the best for Trevor Lawrence as well. Can't get hurt even more going down a stretch. That would be devastating for that entire operation going forward. So I understand where you're coming. Let's talk about Justin Tucker with the Baltimore Ravens. You're talking about goat. One of the goats always has been a part of the conversation since he dropped into the NFL. He's obviously going through it. And yesterday, if he makes his kicks like Justin Tucker normally does, they beat Philadelphia Eagles. Now, if a ball goes into Philadelphia, Eagles operate differently after the kick, probably. So everybody that just puts the points on the board and says, like, look, if you just add these points, you know it's going to be a win. There's probably going to be, you know, different strategies involved whenever there's different points made or lost. But what do you think is the next move here for the Ravens? And Harbaugh said, I don't think cutting Justin Tucker is a move that I'm ever going to make. I've seen situations like this in the past, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong, where a kicker or a punter or something like that gets put on IR for the rest of the year. So then they can just kind of put off this decision, have a restart for next year. Is there anything going on with Justin Tucker that we don't know about? And what do you think ends up happening over there?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, he's struggling right now. It's a very strange thing because we've never seen this guy struggle other than this past season. So, you know, here's the thing. Everybody wants them to replace him. There's been. Should they replace. Who are you going to replace him with? Yeah, I mean, these teams have been juggling kickers all year long. Like, is there somebody you're going to pull on the street that you'd have more faith and confidence in than Justin Tucker? You know, you just hope that the guy's going to come out of it. Of course, you get a ride with him. Yeah, like, we're going to sign up the street to go unseat one of the greatest kickers in NFL history like that. I know. That's the reaction immediately, like, oh, got to replace this guy. He keeps missing. He's had. He's had a bad year. He's been off. But you're not going to get somebody on the street. I don't think that's better than Justin Tucker.

[Pat McAfee]

There has to be something going on because they talk about it like, you know, mentally he's going through it. They think it's.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, you know, it's like a golfer. Like, it's like a golfer that's got the yips, you know, like the game comes back to him at some point. And I believe it'll come back to Justin Tucker, too.

[Pat McAfee]

It just. I agree. I think there has to be something wrong, though. I think there has to be.

[Adam Schefter]

Pulling these kicks.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so.

[Adam Schefter]

All the kicks, he's pulling them.

[Pat McAfee]

I think there's got to be something in here. Every single one's to the left, and then he makes the one, misses the one to the right, and I think it's because, like, this one goes to the right. I believe. I think that's because somebody told him, like, hey, can't miss right? Like, no matter what, you can't miss. Right. Leave that thing as open as possible. And then, lo and behold, he misses it to the right, which is probably so frustrating. I couldn't even imagine how frustrating was. Whenever that ball goes to right. There just has to be something, whether it's up. This doesn't just happen.

[Adam Schefter]

It becomes mental after a while.

[Pat McAfee]

Does it?

[Adam Schefter]

Not?

[Pat McAfee]

Definitely. But he made two kicks yesterday, so it's like, I. Yeah, that's.

[Darius Butler]

But like, with kickers, just in general, when you get to week 13, 14, 15, like is everybody like kind of banged up, feel worn down or most.

[Pat McAfee]

Guys like tired legs definitely happen. But like every miss except for that one is the exact same. So I don't.

[Tone Diggs]

They got the bye week.

[Pat McAfee]

I almost wanted to text Jordan Stout and be like, can we give the fucking guy just some lean? Just some lean. And then he misses their right. I'm like, yeah, never mind, never mind. I'm not going to say. I'm not going to say anything at all. Let's look to tonight's game. What should we be looking at? Browns, Broncos, Broncos favored by six and a half, very much in, I think they currently hold the seventh seed in the afc. So they would be in the playoffs in Bo Nix's rookie year. What should we be thinking about?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, they do and they're in a great spot and Denver's got a buy next week. So if Denver can figure out a way to win tonight and go to eight and five, they're sitting there with a two game win lead over the Colts, who they play coming out of the buy, which would be a big win. And what's amazing to me about the Broncos and what they're doing this year is They've got over $80 million in dead cap money this year, which is the highest number of any team in the league. Russell Wilson counts 53 million against their cap. Tim Patrick is 6.1 against their cap. Randy Gregory 4.6, Justin Simmons 3.8, Frank Clark 3.2. And they are still finding a way to win. And what that's all about secret here, really surprisingly, coaching and quarterbacking.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

They have the coach who understands how what needs to be done and he drafted the quarterback that he believes in who not only can he play but because he's on a rookie quarterback contract helps bail them out of the mess that they got into in the Russell Wilson contract. And by the way, the Browns can take notes tonight when they look at the Broncos and see how they look at it, how they did it because they're about to look at their own situation with DeSean Watson having a cap number next year of like $79 million, the largest in the league for next season.

[Pat McAfee]

Man, it's a lot. Browns fans, dog pond. They're fresh off a big window. Yeah, they are fun. Yep, they had a lot of fun in the snow. They enjoyed the hell out of that. Now, hey, but the other thing about.

[Adam Schefter]

Tonight also that I find interesting, like we haven't spent a lot of time on the Broncos and, and when I watch this team right now, aside from Sean Payton doing a great job and Bo Nick's doing a great job, how about this? Just over a year ago, this very same defense gave up 73 points in a game to the Dolphins. And just over a year later, they've turned into one of the best defenses in the NFL. Like that. That's a credit to the defensive coordinator, Vance Joseph, who, by the way, at that time, everybody's fire. Vance Joseph.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Rex Ryan was going to be there. We were even hearing those rumors. But instead, Sean Payton was the belle of the ball that coaching cycle for a reason. We can't wait to watch. They're now favored by six, not six and a half. If Schefter was to get into a competition at his gig, he'd be favored by a thousand. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen.

[Adam Schefter]

Thank you guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Appreciate it. See you tonight. Congrats. Your Michigan team.

[Darius Butler]

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Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Ty Schmidt]

Delicious.

[Pat McAfee]

I had some delicious turkey. Even had some of the white meat because my wife had it so tender.

[Tone Diggs]

There you go.

[Pat McAfee]

And flavored. It was wonderful. Obviously stuffing took up a majority. Sure of the plate. Had some sweet potato pie. That was certainly phenomenal. Ham obviously down there doing its job. Little cornbread obviously for the delightful taste. And a little tiny dab of mashed potatoes with gravy. Now I will say this is my first time ever trying my wife's mashed potatoes. Just like it was my first time ever trying my wife's white turkey meat.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure, sure.

[Pat McAfee]

I like the white turkey meat a lot more than I like the mashed potatoes.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

But I will say the mashed potatoes didn't taste like asshole. Okay. I actually enjoyed the one two scoops that I put on there. And as soon as it cleared the way, more stuffing, more meat, more Hawaiian rolls. And then I had this bite of apple pie. Oh, it was to die for. And then there was a little pumpkin pie sitting there and I said, you know what, have to. So I want fork into pie.

[AJ Hawk]

Good move.

[Pat McAfee]

Without even being cute. Move complete my house. That's right. My room is. I feel bad about this. I did it.

[Tone Diggs]

That's planting your flag, brother.

[Pat McAfee]

You're right. I did. It was delightful. But I would if I was playing Flack. We're going back to the apple pie. But we hope everybody had a fantastic Thanksgiving. We can't thank the world enough for allowing us to do this for a living. I get a chance to hang out with some of the coolest dudes on earth to talk to tables here at Boss and Connor at Ty Schmidt. Comment how the Patriots do yesterday. Happy Thanksgiving.

[Ty Schmidt]

Scored more points than the Buckeyes.

[Pat McAfee]

Not a bad way to look at that. That was certainly a snooze fest over there. In Columbus, wasn't it? One team doesn't even have a quarterback. Wow. Didn't have complete one one after the Hammer Cowboys. AP Thomas, your nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. And joining us live from an attic in Ohio, this man who I can't wait to kind of test the temperature of. He went to school at the Ohio State University. He was an all American for the Ohio State University. He was a national champion. Boy, those days feel like so long ago. For the Ohio State University. And then he would represent the Ohio State University of the Green Bay packers where he'd become the all time leading tackler for one of the oldest franchises in history of sports. Ladies and gentlemen, the face of Ohio, A.J. hawk.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

21, 23.50 in Columbus. God. Oh my God. What happened? A.J. are you guys okay? I got a chance to chat with Rich on Sunday at NFL game day morning. He had his Michigan shoes on. Oh, yeah. He said with the way the year's going, obviously not what we wanted as reigning national champions. But you go into a horseshoe as three, four score underdogs and get a massive win. Obviously you can jot that down as a basketball of massive success. And he said he's going to carry that happiness all the way through holiday season. And then Adam Shefford comes on. First thing he goes is, oh, where's my flag to come plant right into the ground of Ohio. AJ Ohio State loses in the game another year, four years straight now.

[Gumpy]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

And I didn't think this one was going to be possible. I thought Ohio State by 50. Yeah, I thought Ohio State by 50. Because everything. You were there. What was it like kind of watching this whole thing kind of unravel incredibly slowly and monotonously.

[Gumpy]

I was there. It was. Well, the first drive Ohio State had, they looked unbelievable. They surgically went down the field and they weren't able to punch it in for a touchdown, which sometimes that is tough when you can go and move the ball like that. But they couldn't move the ball very much after that first drive. I feel like consistently at least. And yeah, absolutely disappointed. Especially after this gigantic play by Jack Sawyer. You thought, okay, here we go. Now we're. Now we go. And you know, Michigan's defense steps up and gets some big stops. It's. Yeah. Incredibly disappointing loss. No question for everybody.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so now let's chit chat about the future here. Ohio State will not be in the Big Ten championship game.

[AJ Hawk]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

Instead a team that they beat at their place, Penn State will be taking on Oregon another Team that beat Ohio State.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

So if you just look at the College Football Playoff, you would assume Oregon has been the number one team in the country since the middle of the season. No matter what happens in a Big Ten championship, they're going to go. Penn State is in the Big Ten championship and the Big Ten obviously one of the top two conferences in all football. They made the championship. They're going to make it in. Indiana's only got one loss.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, no, they're going.

[Pat McAfee]

They're going to go. Right.

[Ty Schmidt]

66.

[AJ Hawk]

I was going to say last win 66.

[Pat McAfee]

Nothing. Handled business rivalry game question.

[Gumpy]

That's the question.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know if they were 23 point favorites either.

[AJ Hawk]

I don't think so.

[Pat McAfee]

When we talk about expectations and everything, like, wait, was it 29?

[Ty Schmidt]

29.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was actually. It was more than 23. Yeah, it was 29. But they covered. They covered that time big time. And then Ohio State sitting there, two losses, having beat Penn State, haven't beat Indiana. And now we're just assuming that four Big Ten schools are going to get in and Ohio State is the fourth school now that's going to get. It is insane to think about the implications of literally every single game, especially the game this year, because I just assumed Ohio State's on a fast track into the. Absolutely. In the playoffs. Possible one seed got some big. Maybe got some big wins. Obviously a close one to Oregon. Close one to Oregon. In Oregon, head travel over there. Now you lose to Michigan. It's like there's Ohio State on the outside looking at.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And are two teams that they beat in and they are. What. What are you guys thinking over there? Is the whole place on fire because the loss of Michigan or what?

[Gumpy]

I think everybody's a bit confused because we're thinking, all right, yeah, this is crushing defeat that you didn't expect to happen, you didn't think was going to happen. But then it all could still be out in front of you where you have a chance to win the national championship. So it's kind of a weird situation, I think here. I would hope.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know.

[Gumpy]

I mean, I know myself. I feel like Ohio State's going to get in.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Okay. Me too. I would like to let you know I am on the side that Ohio State is getting into the College Football Playoff. Okay. Would like that to be noted. So for sake of argument, let's just say two teams from the accident kind of make it in there. And if they start doing that, maybe a team from Big 12 or two maybe two, you know, Arizona State, Iowa State. There's no chance it's going to happen, but let's just say now all of a sudden it was going to be four and four. If it's two and one, then it's what, four and three and these ones. And then the SEC now has three, Big Ten has four. Well, what if they. What if it's three and it's four?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And then what team gets lost? Oh my God. In the head of this entire thing is who? Michigan athletic director.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh no.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh no, no. I saw, I saw that. Ohio State. Did you see them? They couldn't move the ball and then.

[AJ Hawk]

They fought after the game.

[Pat McAfee]

Come on, Bush league. That's not what we want representing. And I'm not saying he would do that. Obviously they're all non biased and they're very lucky to be in there. And these are humans making these decisions. It's like I believe Ohio State's going to make College Football Playoff. I would like that to be stated. I think it should be four. I think there's going to be three, I think there's going to be two, I think there's going to be one. And then I think there's going to be a group of five. Obviously has to be. And there's going to be four champions. That's how I see it unfolding. But boy, the people that live in the warmer states are not going to be. That is going to be so loud down there. But whenever you think about the implications of every game, like people thought we were going to lose importance to regular season games because 12 team playoffs, it's like. Nope, I think complete opposite. Yeah, it's like every game matters much, much more now. Especially with the chaos that happened not only this weekend, but like last weekend as well. There's been full chaos in college ball.

[Tone Diggs]

I agree with you. I think it's going to be four big 10, three SEC, two ACC, one big 12, one Notre Dame. And then you know, UNLV, your boy, Boise State, most likely. There's no way they put a 3 loss sec in over Ohio State. The world would explode. The world would burn down.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I agreed. Hey, listen, completely agree. The conversation I guess would be. And we also. No way.

[Tone Diggs]

No way.

[Pat McAfee]

So you're putting Notre Dame in a second ACC team and fourth Big Ten team over three loss SEC team in which there are a few.

[Tone Diggs]

I think there's a chance that if SMU wins, there's a, there's a chance that a three loss SEC goes in over Miami. I Could see that happening. But I think if Clemson beats smu, Clemson and SMU are both in because they're not going to penalize a one loss SMU team for losing in the championship game, are they? Because they're putting. They don't want people to remember.

[Pat McAfee]

We'll watch the game. We will see how the game unfolds. But my biggest thing for any of this is they're never going to get it right.

[AJ Hawk]

No.

[Gumpy]

No matter what.

[Pat McAfee]

Never. Because any team can beat any team seemingly right now. Yes, legitimately. It's like every time one of these college games kick off, you have no idea what the. About what's about to happen. Legitimately, you have no idea. Granted, there's teams that are favored, there are teams that have more five stars. But for whatever reason in college football, 18 year olds, even 17 year olds now, I guess 17 year olds to 22 year olds, anything can happen on any given field. So how are you going to get it right Every single time this team's won, but who have they played? It's like, yeah, but they shut up and win. It's like, is it their fault that they haven't got to play anybody? What do you want to. Well, but what about this team that played it? But they don't. They, they laid an egg against Vandy. You remember Van. How do you think this team would do against Vandy if you were to do this? Well, what about Ole Miss or well, what are we doing on paper for five stars? How big people are, how the games actually unfold. Because there's been so many games that have unfolded in a complete opposite way that we thought it would. Not only in the history of college ball, but this season more specifically. It's been. The parody feels better than ever. Yeah, college ball because the transfer portal. Because the nil. Since we've been paying attention, obviously.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, and that's what I think you said before the show and we were in the think tank just saying like how even if you're in one of these major conferences and you go undefeated or you lose one game, like straight strength of schedule almost shouldn't matter. Like it's, it is impossible, it's seemingly impossible to go undefeated. Like it doesn't matter. We see teams that, I mean look at like we were talking about Ohio State kind of tongue in cheek but also kind of seriously like, hey, they should probably beat Michigan by 50 points on Saturday. And I know that's like a rivalry game and everything, but they just go out and lay an egg. We had all these teams who, like, hey, all you got to do is go out and win. You don't even have to. You don't have to win convincingly even. And they just lay an egg. Like in college football.

[Darius Butler]

It is.

[AJ Hawk]

It is so hard to go undefeated. It's. It's impossible. Even if you're in the Big Ten and you get the cards dealt you and it's like, hey, we avoided having to play Penn State and Ohio State this year. And some of these, like, it's still, you know, you have to, you still have to go out and beat Northwestern on a Saturday at 11:00am like, it's not easy to do.

[Pat McAfee]

And first of all, Northwestern on paper, easy to do. Right? But football, for whatever reason, just footballs, it always does. And that's why we thank God every single day that we are not a part of that community.

[Ty Schmidt]

Amen.

[Pat McAfee]

Good luck in there, though. Good luck. Can't wait to tell you how you're wrong.

[Darius Butler]

Get it right.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Darius Butler]

That's why you're in there.

[Pat McAfee]

Get it right. Yeah, I'm not in there for a reason. Because you're better at it than me. Ryan Day, he's okay?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, I think so. I mean, what are you supposed to do? What can you do? Especially at this point if you do get in the playoff? Especially like there. It's. Everybody's in a weird spot here. I feel like, well, I mean, he, he still has to keep the boys working though. That's the thing. Like, hey guys, this is a devastating loss.

[Pat McAfee]

I know him. I'm talking about you guys. You know who I'm talking about?

[Gumpy]

What do you mean? You know, like the fans. What do the fans think?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the buck makes the Buckeyes. The Buckeyes. We know what they think.

[Gumpy]

Everything like that. Everyone's first emotional take I think is they try to, you know, fire the whole team. What do you guys are getting paid so much money, how you lose a game like that? Whole, you know, fans are going to be fans. And I think eventually they calm down a couple days later and see what happens.

[Pat McAfee]

How about this happened before. You guys sneak in, almost be Georgia. Remember, Michigan wins. Michigan gets in. Ohio State is second best team in Big Ten, but rank higher. So they get into the semifinal. They play Georgia in Georgia. Now granted in Atlanta, not in Athens, but nonetheless in Georgia. Comes down to what? A 51 yard field goal. Is that what it was? Or 52 yard field goal?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, something pretty big. Yeah, we were right there.

[Pat McAfee]

And then Georgia goes on and beats TCU by 60 by 60 or whatever.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was 62 7.

[Pat McAfee]

And it's like, that's a similar. I assume that's how Ryan Day and a lot of Ohio State people are framing this like, hey, sucks we lost to Michigan. We agree, okay, this is not acceptable. But with that being said, we still have a chance to go on and do everything we want to do. That's. That's how Ohio people are viewing it.

[Gumpy]

Yeah. I mean, you'd have to be. It's not like, hey, hey, guys, let's get all juiced up to go play. And, you know, some. I don't want to degrade any bowl by throwing any names out there, but I'm saying we're not just going to get ready for some December 22nd bowl game. Like, we have a chance to go win it all. So. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

What else about the Mayo Bowl?

[AJ Hawk]

Please come on back. Slayer. Gator.

[Gumpy]

I don't know the names.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

You're talking about the Toto toilet, the Pop Tarp toilet, The dude wipes.

[Ty Schmidt]

Dude wipes this year.

[Gumpy]

That'd be sweet.

[Pat McAfee]

Was pretty good.

[AJ Hawk]

Armed Forces Bowl.

[Gumpy]

That is a good one point.

[Pat McAfee]

The Boise Bowl. Not happening because Boise's in.

[AJ Hawk]

Then the Boise famous potato.

[Tone Diggs]

There will still be the Idaho. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Remember that? Boise made a bowl game for themselves to play against people. They still.

[Tone Diggs]

They'll still have it.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you remember that?

[Darius Butler]

I don't.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

What's it. What is it? The Boise Bowl.

[AJ Hawk]

The famous potato. Like the something bowl.

[Pat McAfee]

Idaho famous, and Boise ended up in it. I think, like, every year in my head, I remember them playing in it.

[AJ Hawk]

I think they were accepting bids. Like, they could have went and played later, but it's like, nah, we'll play it.

[Pat McAfee]

We got a home game. We'll play it right here. Let's do that. On the blue turf. I'm happy. That's kind of disappearing. The old. I have however much money it costs, I can create a bowl game and have to act like it matters, you know, like, I appreciate that there's more football. I think we all do. But whenever you're just able to smack a name on anything and be like, this matters.

[AJ Hawk]

Good bowl.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm appreciative of the guys getting their bags and their bowl gifts and getting a chance to play more football and everything like that, but it got a little bit out of control. It got a little bit out of control. Hey, you get six wins. We don't care who's it against. You got a chance to come play in this thing. It's like I feel like you should have to earn a bowl if you win eight games. Nine games, sure. Like, I think like, good.

[Gumpy]

It's been six for a long time though, hasn't it?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. But now they're starting to extend it too to like five win teams. Because teams that go six and six are saying no and then they just have to go right, right down the line. It's like, all right, well, what?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tone Diggs]

They have enough last year. They have enough 6 and 6 this year that it won't happen this year.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so if there isn't enough 6 win teams, they'll sub in a 5.

[Tone Diggs]

Win with by GPA goes off a GPA too.

[Ty Schmidt]

What's WVU playing? Do you know?

[Pat McAfee]

We got a bowl game. Thank you.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's what I'm saying. Which one are they playing in the poop bowl or.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I don't think we're playing.

[Tone Diggs]

Was there news out in the dump bowl?

[Ty Schmidt]

The toilet bowl ups.

[AJ Hawk]

What can Brown do for you?

[Ty Schmidt]

Bull?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, that's the one.

[Pat McAfee]

Brown's out of town, though.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, excuse me.

[Pat McAfee]

But we would like to appreciate Neil Brown for reserves.

[Ty Schmidt]

The Brown out.

[Pat McAfee]

Neil Brown's a good guy. This is a good guy. I think he operated in a super good guy fashion. Obviously a lot of class. Six years team seemingly got stagnant or lesser than. So in a P4 program like the Big 12 that gets an automatic bid seemingly into the call football playoff and it's as wide open as it is. Like, you got to make this move. I think Ren Baker knew he had to make this move. Ren Baker decides to move on after the ass beating from Texas Tech, the drumming that happened on Saturday. Now there's a coaching search taking place. And I'll tell you, it was a wild day yesterday, A.J. a lot of people want that job. A lot of people.

[Gumpy]

It's a good gig. Like for real. They got you. They got you working the phone.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, they don't got me working phones. Everybody that wants the job calling me, that I'm I've ever met or friends with saying would love if you supported me in my bid to become this head coach of this thing. So then obviously I've also donated to the collective. So I guess I deserve a. What's up? What's going on? So I've gotten a chance, you know, with chat with Ren Baker yesterday a little bit. I have faith in him. I do. He got it right with the basketball team. Yeah, he got it right with the basketball.

[Ty Schmidt]

Great.

[Pat McAfee]

He. There's a lot of Options, though, that are trying to get this gig, and those are just the people that I talked to yesterday, let alone the amount of people that I don't know that are trying to get that job. It's like, with the way the Big 12 is set up, with the way it's constructed, and it's going to sound very narcissistic, but with like, a West Virginia presence now, pretty. Pretty good in the sport and sports media as a whole. Without popular. The brand is good logo. Yeah, Great. Good logo. Only team in the sport or in the state. You know, like, obviously Marshall exists. Shout out to Marshall, thundering her. That's good rivalry between that. But those are all Mountaineers over there. That is a. That is the pro team of the state. It's like, there's a lot of really good opportunity for people over there, and there's a chance some real special takes place. If any of the, you know, conversation.

[Gumpy]

Are you going to. Are you going to publicly endorse a candidate for the job?

[Pat McAfee]

Eventually, I mean, maybe. We'll see.

[Tone Diggs]

I can't believe Saman and Belichick called yesterday to enforcement for the job.

[Pat McAfee]

Coach, I saw a lot of people tweeting after my tweet were like, coach Shaven's coming back to save us coming home. I think Coach Saban's having a good time. I think Coach Saban is enjoying college game day. I don't think he's getting back into coaching. I have asked him a thousand times if he's coming to coach West Virginia. He said no. But I do believe he is interested in helping West Virginia, which is, I think, very good news in this entire conversation. But the people and Coach Belichick also joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, the greatest coach of all time. The greatest NFL general manager of all time. Let's hear it from him. Coach Belichick. Coach, there's an opening at West Virginia. Are you applying to be the head coach of the West Virginia University Mountaineers?

[Bill Belichick]

I might talk to you about that, Pat.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Gumpy]

It wasn't a no.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, well, put it on the ticket. Put it on the ticker. We would need it. Okay, we're gonna put that on. We're gonna let that run. We don't even need. I'll follow up. How was the holiday weekend? Hope you're great. This one. Football really matters, right? This is the time when I think, yeah, go ahead.

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah, that's right.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah.

[Bill Belichick]

You got. Now, you got all the conference championship games. You got. The, you know, playoffs are really starting to shape up. Couple teams have Clinched, couple teams are eliminated. So, you know, with each week that goes by, we'll just get a little bit closer on that, that.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's talk about the Buffalo Bills clinching the AFC east with five games remaining. What have you seen from this Buffalo Bills team and Josh Allen? Maybe that hasn't happened in the past. Is there any differences in your eyes on this team versus maybe a Bills team in the past that wasn't able to kind of get over the hump and win?

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah, they look really good. You know, Josh has done a great job of taking care of the ball. Obviously he's a tough guy to stop, but, you know, he hasn't turned it over much all year. It's just really been a couple of drop balls and stuff like that. The plays that really I wouldn't put on him, they're playing good defense, they're playing good, you know, they're running the ball well. It's the best the running game has looked in a while. So I think that they're, they're a really solid team. They're good on special teams and they're just not making many mistakes. They're playing air free football. So I think the big challenge for them is over the next five weeks is not to regress in that area, to keep, keep pressing forward, which is the easiest thing to do when you've got a, you know, you've already clinched and, and you're, you know, barely into December. But, you know, I give them a chance to get everybody healthy, but they just need to be playing their best football.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, whenever you guys went through your dynasty for 20 years, 20 plus years, you had to have different iterations of your team team, you know, because salary cap and everything like that. Brandon Bean, McDermott, what are your thoughts on how they've had to reinvent this team for this year and how it's really come together?

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah, again, they've done a great job. I think they've done a good job all the way through. But you know, especially this year that, you know, moving on from Diggs and kind of rebuilding the receiver position, but they're very strong at tight end. So they're, you know, when they're healthy, they're playing a lot of 12 personnel, which I think has also helped the running game. They look like a very well balanced team, especially one that can play in Buffalo, play in bad weather, which if they, you know, if they keep winning, they're going to be doing, you know, plenty of, they might even have a shot at the home field for the, for the playoffs. So having a team that can, you know, play in those conditions with 12 personnel, a good running game, you know, obviously a good quarterback, and, you know, the defense that can play the run, not just rush the passer and tackle, well, you know, that's a big. That's good formula.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they're 10 and two. Chiefs are 11 and one. The Chiefs lead the league with nine. One score game wins. I think the Vikings are in second with seven or whatever. The Buffalo Bills eye test just looks awesome. It looks like they're playing dominant football and the Niners just vastly different than what they've been in the past. And losing Christian McCaffrey with a PCO for the next few weeks or maybe even season, and for him not to be there, that stinks. But shout out to the Bills. Shout out to the Bills over there in the AFC East. Go ahead, A.J.

[Gumpy]

Coach, I wanted to pivot to it to Trevor Lawrence, obviously, took a scary hit as he was sliding at the sticks right. The first down marker yesterday. I guess when these quarterbacks are running in place, what can you. Like, they're in space. What can you teach your defenders to? Like, I get. He can't make that hit. Like, you can't go forearm to his chin. But also, it's at the sticks. He's sliding late. Like, what can you tell your defenders for situations like this?

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah, that's a tough one. I think I put that one right back on you, A.J. you've been in that situation, you know, way more than I have. You know, he's running for a first down. You're coming up there to tackle him. He slides late. What. What would you tell him to do? I mean, I would tell him to hit him in the face with a forearm, but it's almost impossible to avoid contacting him in the head.

[Gumpy]

My question is, what if he decided there's a clip of Patrick Mahomes. I've seen that goes around where he's Patrick. One guy decide, he comes up, he thinks Patrick sliding, and he kind of just glides right by him and continues. That does happen. But I guess all you can tell him, coach, is what you gotta. You gotta fly in submarine over top of him and try not to make contact at that moment.

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah, that's right. And I think, you know, throwing the forearm in there is, you know, that's. That's not the right thing to do. But, you know, to show that you're trying to avoid contacting him in the head. It's hard not to hit him in the head here. There's nothing else to hit. His whole body's on the ground. But the forcible contact with the forearm, that's, you know, that. That's not. That's not called for. I think you got to show, you know, an effort to avoid that contact as much as you can. I don't know if you can avoid it completely, but you should try.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Intent, I think, is a big deal. And that's why with the brace in the optics of what it looked like, plus with what type of player he is, he is a lives on.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he is. That's type of player. He's come out and apologized to Trevor for what happened. He even said, like, just like I said before the game, it was great that you're back healthy. I still feel that same way. And then he also said a lot of the things that have been said since then, okay, we need. We need to dial it down a little bit. But nonetheless, no player wants that to happen to any other players, especially as we get in the most important time of football. And with the way Houston's going, the way Jacksonville's going, can't be losing their captain on defense, defensive side of the ball. Go ahead, DBuz.

[Darius Butler]

You can. It happens so, so fast. But speaking of captains and great players, Justin Tucker up there, the Ravens, you know, all time. Great. Kirk, obviously, we talked about him on the show with you a few times. He's struggling right now, you know, kind of putting the team at risk of losing major games down the stretch. How would you handle this situation as a head coach? Obviously, it's not a bunch of guys on the street who you just throw in there and trust them. But how would you handle this situation in particular up in Baltimore?

[Bill Belichick]

Probably about the way that Coach Harbaugh is handling it. You know, when I. When I look at Tucker, I don't see a lack of talent. He still has great height on the ball. The ball, you know, travels with plenty of distance. Clearly, there's some fundamental technique thing that he's not doing consistently, and that's caused him to miss both to the left and to the right. So I think, you know, what I would do is keep working on the fundamentals and just the technique of the kick. I don't think there's a lack of talent. I think it's fundamentally, there's just something that's not quite right here. And I know, I'm sure that Justin and Coach Harbaugh and the whole operation, the holder, the snapper, are all trying to get this down. I think he's definitely capable of doing it. But like you said, there's nobody else out there that's that, you know, has more experience or has mentally been in more situations than Tucker has. I think I would go with Tucker, Coach.

[Pat McAfee]

You said it there. Miss him both ways. Every one of his misses up until yesterday was left like the same. Same thing. And I don't like to, like, drop my thoughts into people's life and be like, I know more than you. This is what I should do, especially in this world, because there's so much going on and every kicker is different, every operation different. But I wanted to text Jordan Stout, the punter, and be like, hey, can we just lean the ball a little bit so that he can maybe straighten that thing out as opposed to the draw? You know, let's lean in a little bit, fight the draw. And then he misses one to the right. And I'm like, all right, now, now, I don't know. You know, like, there is. There's real cause for concerning. In panic, I think, whenever you're missing both ways, Coach.

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah, well. And to your point, Pat, just a little bit of lean one way or the other because can definitely affect the flight of the ball. One thing about Tucker's balls, in my experience has been his balls always went perfectly straight. They didn't hook through. They didn't have any draw on them. They were just straight. And when I see his ball start to move a little bit now, that tells me that there's something different than what it was. I don't know exactly what that is. Maybe it's a lean to the ball, maybe it's his technique. Maybe it's, you know, I'm not sure exactly, but. But it seems like that's correctable. Just got to figure out what it is.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so, too. The only thing I'm worried about is maybe he has a little, you know, because maybe he. Something but. Well, but that has not been announced, so we can't obviously assume anything, but. Come on, Tuck. Come on, baby. Tucker, come on.

[Bill Belichick]

There's no doubt, Pat, if there's an injury involved and there's a compensation for that, that could definitely, you know, change the, you know, the mechanics of the kick. And. And then you're trying to compensate, you overcompensate and so forth. And that's something, right, that none of us are. Have privy knowledge to.

[Pat McAfee]

And you got to remember, if you're off by that much, I mean, that's a miss, you know, that's why. That's why. Tyler from. Dude, Perfect.

[Ty Schmidt]

Unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

And making that. I don't know if you saw him. Coach Tyler from Dude Perfect, who they are calling. They're called the greatest athlete of our generation.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Steps up and nails this. I mean, it was. I don't want to hear another slanderous thing about Dude Perfect taking. How many takes? How many takes? Who cares? He buried this thing. It was a wonderful bill. It was awesome, Coach.

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know if he has any eligibility left or if he's on apds.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's got a good beard. He's very jacked. He took his shirt off at the end. He was very jacked. We don't know if he could pass a. We don't know, but we do know he is a absolute stud. All right, let's keep moving forward, shall we? Con man has a question for you, Coach.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Coach, obviously, big story from Thanksgiving was the end of the game with the Bears and the Lions. How often are you guys practicing when you were in the league with those type of situations at the end of the game? And what did you think about that whole entire thing?

[Bill Belichick]

Well, first of all, kind of compliment you on that jacket.

[Ty Schmidt]

Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Skull and Bones, baby. Let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

What about the hat?

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah, Pat, that's what I wore last year. I was Skull and Bones, the Jolly Roger. We'll come back to that.

[Pat McAfee]

Put that helmet on. Yeah, I remember.

[Bill Belichick]

It was awesome on the side there. One more time, Conor.

[Pat McAfee]

I know.

[Ty Schmidt]

It gets me fired up, too, but the Eberflew situation.

[Bill Belichick]

Oh, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Doesn't call a timeout. 30 seconds left to get that.

[Pat McAfee]

Hold on, hold on, hold on. I love it when you're asking that question. He sees your mouth moving, but he's just like, damn, that's cool. Jolly Roger. He's so cool now. Oh, shit. You asked.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Gumpy]

Well, yeah, that's right.

[Pat McAfee]

That's awesome. That's love.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hell, yeah, that's love.

[Pat McAfee]

That situation, though. You're known as the greatest situational coach of all time. Patriots made a mistake in any of these type of crucial situations. It was, like, front page of the news. Worthy always got to write how often he worked.

[Bill Belichick]

If you let this play run. If you just let this play run, It. It looked to me like. It looked to me like there was a play called, and we're signaling the play here and then.

[Pat McAfee]

Still waiting. This clock is still ticking.

[Bill Belichick]

And then we're changing the play like we change. We put. Maybe made a signal out there to the top to probably change the route. And then you know, so, you know, look, unless you're actually there on the headset, I'm not sure if we know exactly what happened. What I would say is, for me, I always felt like there were three people that were critical to the operation. The head coach, the play caller, whether his offense or defense, and the signal caller on the field, where that was the defensive signal caller or the quarterback. And I think those are the people that all need to be on the same page. And whenever they're not, then that's potential for a problem. So you want to make sure that the communication, if the coordinator's making the call that you're in sync with a coordinator as a head coach, or if the head coach is making the call that you're in sync with a quarterback. And so that you're both thinking the same thing in whatever the situation is, whether you're going to try to draw them all side, whether you're going to call a timeout, whether you're going to, you know, and it really was a similar situation in the Raider game where, you know, that was a mix up and the ball got snapped and so forth. But it's just so important for the quarterback and the head coach. But there's usually that third person in there, the offensive or defensive coordinator, and it could be a fourth person. If you have somebody in the press box who's kind of advised you on situations and, you know, clock management and things like that, you just have to make sure that everybody's in sync and on the same page on that. When they're not, then these are the kind of things that can happen.

[Pat McAfee]

One of those conversations happening, though, during the week, before the drive, before the series, before the play. When are that. When's that all happening?

[Bill Belichick]

Well, yeah, they're all done ahead of time, but each situation is a little bit different. And especially when the clock's running, you know, you have to calculate what the time is when the ball snap. Like not what it is when you, when you look up. I mean, of course that's important. But you know, for example, you know, Pat, if you're going to, you know, run the two, the no huddle field goal, right? If you're going to run a no huddle. And then of course, getting sacked here to kind of take them out of field goal range is another part of the problem and that changes the situation for the play caller. But you know, Pat, you know, if there's call it 18, 19 seconds ago on the clock, you know, you run a play, you clock it, you kick the field goal but when the clock's running, okay, and you've got 40 seconds to go and you run a play and you get tackled and everybody's. And now the clock's running. What. How much time is on the clock? Is it 18? Is it 19? Is it 16? Do you have enough time? Do you not have enough time? And that's where it gets a little bit tricky, like this one did. So you can prepare all you want for that, but the decision has to be made at that point in time. Are we going to take a timeout? Are we going to run a play and then take a timeout? You know, what are we going to do?

[Pat McAfee]

Allegedly, even flu came out and said that the ball is supposed to be snapped at 18 seconds. Seconds was the expectation. Then obviously it ran way past that.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, but.

[Bill Belichick]

Right. And if that. And if that was the case, that they snapped it at 18, got the ball in the field goal range, hit a five or seven yard pass, got the ball in the field goal range, okay. And then take a timeout, then kick it on fourth down. You know, that makes sense, but they just didn't execute that at all. So who. Whose responsibility was it to do what? I mean, I'm not sure.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, even after he got sacked and he calls the play, whatever it was, it looked like he was calling the receivers back to the line of scrimmage. Like, I don't know if those guys knew. Like, if you, if you show it again before he does the. The entire signal to the wide receivers, it looks like he's calling them back to the O line.

[Pat McAfee]

So not calling a timeout.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I don't know if they didn't know, like right here, it looks like he's signaling to everyone that's downfield, like, hey, get back here. We're running another play. And I don't know if the entire.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's just obviously assume that they're not on the same page, all of them, whether it's four people, three people, whoever knows in the communication. Let's dive back into why your teams were always so good at it. And everybody chatted that you stressed more and focused more on it. Did you want everybody on the team to understand how you should operate in all these situations? Does that happen in training camp? OTAs during the week? When are you doing your breakdown of situational awareness for these matters? Passive moments? Right.

[Bill Belichick]

So I always felt like this was a cumulative, cumulative effect. You put the situation in. In training camp, you work on it that day and, you know, kind of go through the mechanics of it and kind of take it slow. But then after that, you stick the situation in periodically through training camp and through your regular season, so that when it pops up, you revert back to the, to the foundation that you put in. In training camp. So, so it starts in training camp, but it works all the way through the season. And each time it comes up, you know, the timing's a little bit different. It can be 30 seconds, it'd be 25 seconds, 27 seconds, whatever it is with each of those situations. And there's multiple, obviously that could come up. There's probably, you know, in a neighborhood of 50 different ones that you have to deal with in one way or another. And 1 or 2 seconds difference on the clock makes a lot of difference. And so what we tried to do was have one word that described the situation. So if we wanted to get out of bounds, we had a word, for example, bingo, that just told everybody you have to get out of bounds. Instead of like yelling, hey, get out of bounds. Hey, get out of bounds. Hey, you know, bingo. That's it. One word told everybody what they needed to do. And so as many of those words as we could use, you know, giraffe, seahawk, church, slider, so forth, just those words all, they all identified a situation which then built in what should happen in that situation. I always felt it was important for me as the head coach to be on the same page with the quarterback. And so Tom and I spent a lot of time talking about those situations or watching film of other situations similar that would come up and say, okay, if here's what this team did, we would do that, or here's what this team did. I wouldn't handle it that way. I would, I would do this and then that. And, you know, one of the tough situations is when you have one timeout, do you want to take the time out early and leave more time on the clock, or do you want to save the time out so you don't have to scramble on a no huddle field goal or something like that and substitute at the end? It's just a fundamental. You have one timeout, you can take it early or take it late, either way, but you just want to be on the same page. You don't want the quarterback to be thinking, oh, I thought you were going to take a time out, and you thinking, well, I'm going to save it. And so I always felt it was important for Tom and I to be on the same page on that. And then if there was a timeout, sometimes we'd be able to talk about it. But if there wasn't a timeout, we had discussed it enough in, in multiple other, you know, meetings and practice review that it was kind of second nature.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we all are seeing the same thing. We're all seeing this the same exact way. Felt like the wide receivers potentially had one idea. Caleb obviously had two ideas. Tom Bryan was calling it in, had an idea and then Hebrew flu. So I didn't see him talk one time during that.

[AJ Hawk]

I don't know if he had any idea.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know if he had any idea.

[Darius Butler]

It's tough for it to run out with that timeout, but I know as a young player, you know, playing for Bill, it was almost a level of anxiety, you know, going into practice because something most other teams that I played for, most things were scripted, you know, which periods was coming, you knew when it was coming. But at any moment in practice it could be a special team situation or a red area situation or a two minute situation that the players or the coaches wasn't necessarily prepared for. And then you just go over it and practice. So when it happens in a game, you're kind of more aware of those situations. And we met more as a team, I feel like in New England than other teams like in other places. It was only one or two days that we met as a full unit in New England. I felt like every day, even game day, we met as a team before, you know, going into it. So I think that all those things, like you said, being cumulative, like it leads up to these type of moments.

[Pat McAfee]

I love the idea of instead of everybody having to understand every situation, we're just going to tell you exactly what you need to do here. Bingo. Okay. You don't even know why. You just need to know. Get your ass. I love that, like that is easy communication and understanding that reaches everybody. That's. You need to know though that everybody that leaves your building, comes to other buildings, goes. What Bill does with situational shit is the way to do it. You need to know that. So that's the. And obviously those are ones that win and lose your games. That's literally what wins and loses games.

[Bill Belichick]

Well, and I think that debut's point, one thing I always tried to stress was, as he said, the team meetings. So when he's sitting in there as a defensive player, he's hearing what we're telling the offense. Here's what you want to do in this situation. And so defensively you're already being taught, here's what the offense is trying to do whatever the situation is, seven seconds, nine seconds, you know, get in the field goal range, here's what they're thinking is. And then when we flip that around and say, all right, defensively, here's what our options are, we're going to do one of these two things. Well, then the offensive players sit there and, okay, is it A or it's not A, then it's probably B. And they understand, okay, here's what's going on on the defensive side of the ball. I always thought that was super helpful for the players to understand not just what are we trying to do, but to really be inside the offensive coordinator or play callers ahead of. Here's what they're trying to do. Because if you see there aren't very many situations at the end of the game that are exactly the same, but when you see enough of them over a couple year period of the head coach or the coordinator or the quarterback, whoever's doing it, there's usually a pattern to what they're trying to do. And you can anticipate maybe not exactly what the play is going to be, but what the concept's going to be.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think it worked. You said, I always thought that this would work. It did. Oh, yeah, it did. It did. And seems like it always will. Now, who benefited from this the most? Oh, the Detroit Lions. They only have one loss on the season, 11 and 1 right now. They're in a tough NFC north, but they're going through it. Tone has a question for you, Coach.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, coach. Obviously you had roles as the D.C. gM and head coach. So I wanted to ask you about this. This, because Brad Holmes, mcdc and Aaron Glenn have a situation on the defensive side of the ball where they are just taking injury after injury after injury. Here is where they started the season, and the red lines are obviously guys that have gotten hurt and are out for the season as those roles. Like is Aaron Glenn, is he doing stuff defensively, schematically, differently now because guys are out. What is Brad Holmes doing? What's. What's coach Dan Campbell doing for the team? What's the situation here when you've got a great team that is just banged up on the defense side of the ball?

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Bill Belichick]

Well, I think that the Lions, again, whether that's Coach Campbell or Brad Holmes or whoever it is, have certainly tried to address the pass rush situation, and I think that needs to be addressed. They. They don't get very much pressure on the quarterback. A lot of the sacks that they do get are because the Quarterback holds the ball for an extended period of time and they've gotten a lot of sacks in the fourth quarter when they've been ahead, you know, in obvious passing situations. In spite of the fact that they're statistically a very good third down team. I think that that's, you know, going to be an issue for them against the better teams that they play. Like it was in the first half of the Houston game where they were down by, you know, whatever it was two touchdowns just at halftime. So I think those are the issues that they're looking at defensively, pass rush and how much man to man coverage they can actually play. I think Branch is out of fantastic year. He's been responsible, it looks to me like for the majority of their past breakups, interceptions. He's even caused some interceptions by, you know, taking away or caused sacks by taking away a route and forcing the quarterback to hold the ball. I think he's had really a great year for him. I think the rest of the secondary and the rest of the pass rush is, can certainly be improved and I think they're trying to do it. And so that's what they should do is to try to either schematically or maybe with an acquisition of a player, try to, you know, get more of an edge rush to work with McNeil inside or use some linebacker pressures to, you know, to try to beef up the pass rush. They really haven't rushed the passer very effectively. I think when the numbers are a little misleading because of the amount of time that the quarterbacks have held the ball and I would say the quarterbacks have missed a lot of open receivers that had they seen them or hit them, you know, it would have been, it would have been interesting to see how some of those had gone.

[Pat McAfee]

Feels like you think it's going to be tough to finish this thing out for the Detroit Lions.

[Bill Belichick]

Well, I, I think they, I would say it's going to be tough. I think they, I think they need to do better than they've been doing. I think they've gotten away with some things and it looks good now. I just don't know if it's going to last against really good passing team, playoff or quarter or quarterback. Yes. Or quarterbacks. And it can extend plays a little bit. I mean, like I said, they got into a lot of trouble against Houston and you know, I know they ended up winning that game, but still, it wasn't all about the interceptions. It was about, you know, defensively, you know, some of the things that they gave up and it just, I just worry when they get against a good offensive team, if Love has a good day, if Darnold has a good day, which I didn't think really either one of them did. You know what, what that would look like.

[Pat McAfee]

Lions, Packers, Thursday night.

[Bill Belichick]

Now they can outscore people. And look, if they have to win 42, 41, they're probably capable of doing that. But I think to really be a good, a well balanced team, be a championship team, you know, they're. They want to be better on defense.

[Pat McAfee]

You always see those Super Bowls, just big time shootouts, you know, all the time. Yeah, it's always. That is Detroit Lions fans, obviously, they're pumped to be back, but every injury that takes place, it's like, man. And to coach's point, it was very, very noticeable in the second half. Caleb Williams was a different quarterback in that second half when guys started just dropping. Yeah. And there's been a couple games now the Lions have dominated. Then there's been a couple games, just been close. They got the packers on Thursday night. We shall see. NFC north football is heating up. Go ahead, AJ Coach.

[Gumpy]

The team playing well, obviously, the Pittsburgh Steelers, their offense is just exploding. Russell Wilson playing very well, I guess. What do you think their chances are of going on a deep run in the playoffs this year?

[Bill Belichick]

Well, you know, it was surprising to me that Cincinnati was able to put up as many points as they did against them. And it was equally surprising that Pittsburgh scored as many as they did. Again, that's a credit to Pittsburgh and Coach Smith and Russell Wilson. I mean, look, you can't underestimate this guy. And they are very resourceful team. They find ways to, you know, to win, to block kicks, to make goal line stops, to score. You know, you just can't, you just can't count them out. But yeah, you know, look, I think Arthur Smith's done a great job of protecting the ball and still being able to find productive plays, you know, offensively, you know, on the perimeter and then with Friarmuth inside, with Najee running the ball and it really. They haven't turned the ball over much. I know they had the pick six against Cincinnati, but, you know, they've done a good job of not turning the ball over. And generally with that defense, if you don't turn the ball over, you know, you probably 20 points is probably enough to win most weeks. So I think if they can stay with that formula, they're going to be tough to beat. They've got a good field goal kicker to win close games. You Know, it's a lot to like there.

[Pat McAfee]

Naj, too much of the banana thing from Pat Friarmouth's girlfriend on Thanksgiving. So it sounds like the. They like each other too, you know, that's what I heard from that Naj and Friar Muth and the boys were doing Thanksgiving. Now did he get a little winded? Maybe too much of the sweets afterwards. That's going to happen at Thanksgiving. They're dialed in. Mouth just wants to celebrate football with these Bengals fans. Nobody's home. I like the Steelers team. I like their moxie, you know, and we talk about that a lot. I feel like you can tell how much a team actually believes whether or not they're a team by their moxie and their confidence. Feels like the Steelers are very confident. George Pickens is an absolute weapon on the football field. Yeah. Now that being said, it is a double edged sword with George Pickens. You know, there is a, there's an opportunity for a 15 yarder. Sure. And there's an opportunity for a 90 yard touchdown seemingly every single play. I feel like a lot of greats are seeming. He needs to get that going. And if they do, why not the Pittsburgh Steelers? They feel that way. Last question here from Ty for you, coach.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, Coach. A lot was made leading up into that Thursday night Thanksgiving game about the Dolphins not being able to win in the cold and specifically to his record. And I think a lot of it may be overblown. But then you look at the stats and it's pretty evident that something is going on there. Now obviously over a long time people said, hey, you know, Coach Belichick has a weather machine. He can control it up there in Foxborough. But is there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Is there anything specifically, especially now that the weather is about to change that you would look at on, on film or somewhere else and be like, okay, like this team really can't compete with us in the cold or in the conditions.

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah. Well, as we all know, there's no way to control the weather. So my.

[Ty Schmidt]

Coach.

[Bill Belichick]

And you know, the weather reports are pretty unpredictable too. I mean you look at a buffalo was a great example. I've been down that road before too, where you're at the airport and you're at the hotel and it's windy and cold and then you get to the stadium and there's 4 inches of snow on the ground. We had that one time in reverse where there was no snow at the stadium and I was told after the game we're gonna have a hard time getting out of here because of the snow. At the airport. And so you just have to be ready for anything. But. But my philosophy was always to practice outside in the elements and whatever they are, they are. And sooner or later you'll get snow, rain, hot days, you know, dealing with the sun, winds, cross winds, winds that blow down, whatever it is. And so you just take it as it comes and hope that that practice experience pays off in the games. But, you know, there are certain things that I think you want to definitely emphasize and talk about in practice. Practice, when that comes up, things about the wind, things about the, you know, whether it be the sun, the, you know, handling the ball in the sun, or cold or snow or wet or whatever it is. And re emphasize those fundamentals when they happen in practice. The do you know, I know deep will tell you like, we didn't go inside, we were outside all the time. Whatever it was, put your stuff on and be ready to go.

[Darius Butler]

But get some shoes that work. We're going to play in it. We got to practice with it. All that type of shot. I know as a db, as the, as it got colder, more and more quarterbacks, you know, tried to stay away from those deep outside throws, those outside breaking throws. So as a defender, as a db, especially down the field. Now, Josh Allen is, I think, a perfect quarterback to have a Buffalo who can still drive it through the wind. But I know as the year got later on, that was something definitely as.

[Pat McAfee]

A db, arms get tired and the weather.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, and the ball just, just like you golf, you do anything like the ball just doesn't travel the same. So unless you have that velocity that you can get over it and you're not playing in a bunch of these games. But whenever you do, as it gets cold even it's a nice day, they try to stay away from those deep outside breakers.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, coach, let's forget about the cold weather team. When do you know if your team's like a championship team or not? I guess you knew that a lot for New England. Is there something that happens with your own team that you go like, okay, we got something this year. Is there any, any of that?

[Bill Belichick]

Well, I think being able to perform under pressure is key. So, you know, in the fourth quarter, games on the line, offense, defense, special team on the road, crowd noise, you know, when you can do the things you need to do to, you know, win in a tight situation, whether it's run out the clock in 4 minute or score in 2 minute or stop them when they have a chance to score and beat you and those kind of things. The more you can do that under pressure and evaluate how your team performs when everything's on the line, that's, to me, the best indicator. And, you know, say what you want to be out. Kansas City. And, you know, people say they don't win and all that, but they found ways to win. They make the plays when they need to make them for the most part, whether they've gotten a couple breaks or haven't gotten a couple breaks. I mean, the bottom line is they know how to win and they know how to play in critical situations. There's a lot to be said for that. Now, I would. I would say there's other teams that have shown that, too. Philadelphia, you know, Buffalo, for sure. You know, Pittsburgh. I mean, they're not the only team. But I think the more that your team does that and does the right thing and can consistently do the right thing, that that's a, you know, a good omen.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, well, I appreciate you so much for your knowledge and wisdom every single week. We've appreciated the hell out of you. You look great today, man. No man in cast tonight. What are we doing?

[Bill Belichick]

No Manning cast tonight. Yeah, night off.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, well, good. Enjoy the hell out of it. Ladies and gentlemen, the Goat, Bill Belichad. Here we go. So that's how he could tell if he looks at his team. Week seven, week eight. Did you see we had a four minute drive there. Just kind of just took the life out of that team. Is like, maybe we got something here, you know, and then there's other coaches that are watching situations unfold and they're like, we ain't got it.

[Gumpy]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

We ain't got the bears.

[Gumpy]

Would be scary if you're winning, if you win some of those games, but, you know, like, hey, we're not that good a team. Like, that's got to be scary for some coaches. They know that.

[Pat McAfee]

We have some breaking news here, okay. On this overreaction Monday. Wow.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, no.

[Pat McAfee]

Sal Masquera has texted me.

[Ty Schmidt]

What?

[Pat McAfee]

Boom.

[Ty Schmidt]

Ticker.

[AJ Hawk]

Holy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we have made contact with sound.

[AJ Hawk]

Unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

X Games host legend, icon That's a fish. Yeah. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

That's a whale, my friend.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're damn right. Probably one of them sperm ones.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

Big.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Big sperm whale. Holy. Sal. Yeah. We spent a lot of time with you, girl. Hey, thank you, Sal. I feel bad for this generation. Although they're still fighting. I like that they are still fighting.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sweet.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, as Ohio State legend, we can't have fighting in these games. Obviously. That is not good for sport. It's not good for everything to see people just coming to blows after everything. As an Ohio State legend, though, you had to be pretty pumped to see that your boys were like, not on our field. Are you doing that? And I saw a lot of people say, like, well, if you didn't want that, don't let them win. It's like, agreed. Hey, and a lot of people said if they showed the fight, they showed after the game, in the game, it would be a little bit. Agreed. Everything you're saying, rightfully so. I also understand the positioning of a player going, not on our field. Is this happening? And it happened all across ball. But obviously the game, having it happen was big. What is you think your reaction? Ohio State alumni action? Because Jack Sawyers are saying, not doing it on my own home, not on my field. He's saying it there. What are your thoughts on it all, A.J.

[Gumpy]

Well, especially after I saw a couple different angles. Like, they were down there. The guys were singing Carmen Ohio. Like every team does after win or lose. You put your arms around each other and they sing Carmen Ohio. They saw this happening right then, like, during that. I absolutely understand them turning around and saying, now, we can't. We can't let this happen. Obviously, we lost the game. We know every. You can, you can be. Have both opinions where, yeah, hey, if you want to, if you don't want to let them do this, beat him first. Yeah, we get that. But also, like, you're allowed. Like, yes, it's a competitive situation. That is. That is your spot. It was Senior Day as well for those guys. Like, yeah, there's a lot of emotion.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. I. But also, we can't have it.

[Gumpy]

You know, I like, of course not.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Like, I'm probably in the minority. I mean, I like, I like seeing it. It's a part of the game. It's emotions. The bad part about it, I think, is when the players who usually are starting that type of shit, you look at the players, you look at the jersey numbers. 90% of them didn't even take a meaningful snap in the game. They just start some shit after the game. Obviously, we know Baker Mayfield, his situation years ago, but I like it. None of these kids still care about.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that they care.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that they care still. We can't ever lose that. Can't ever lose that. It also can't just become, you know, full on Wayland Melee after everything. Anyways, we continue on YouTube, ESPN plus and tick tock Live. We'll make our picks and cover more. Be A friend tell a friend something nice. My change your life. I think we hit it.

[Tone Diggs]

You did.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[Tone Diggs]

Was. Was Ryan Day breaking it up or what was he doing during.

[Pat McAfee]

He was. I think he was in LA la land.

[Tone Diggs]

What do you mean?

[AJ Hawk]

He looked like a soldier in trenches. Shell shocked in WW2.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

They're putting those videos out bad. Look like drones flying over. Yeah. And he. They're just sitting down there.

[AJ Hawk]

Just.

[Pat McAfee]

Ryan Day looked like he was in the middle. He was not his body. He was there. How did this happen?

[Darius Butler]

They put a shot on him. Like what just happened?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Right here. He's just learning. Oh. It was a full on.

[Tone Diggs]

So it was awesome. Right?

[Pat McAfee]

He was. Ryan Day was wondering how the hell was my family going to survive this in the state of Ohio. Really? That I assume A.J. right.

[Gumpy]

Yeah. Absolutely. I mean. Yeah. I don't think it even. It never. It felt like this can't be reality. It had to. He had to be thinking like this. How did this happen?

[Pat McAfee]

And it happens all of us. And I hate that I can even say that. That I'm one of the people that happens to. But I could be standing in a group and my eyes are open and I'm definitely, physically, physically there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

But in this brain I'm not hearing a thing anybody's saying. I am not in this room at all. I am. I think they call it daydreaming or whatever. I don't think. I think that was a day nightmare happening for Ryan Day. So like I think he looked very bad in some of those things going what happened. And his guys are. Are starting a full on. There's a full brawl happening behind them. But if you listen to that interview from what hang time or game time with Ryan Day. Yeah. And he was like the worst thing that's ever happened. My dad died. Okay. So that's obviously horrendous. I did everything with him growing up. He was my. But aside from that worst thing that's ever happened to me in my family is losing to Michigan. So then a meet three score favorite immediately. They don't even have quarterback.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like greatest team ever assembled.

[Pat McAfee]

The whole situation ever. And then you lose that. I. I think his body might have been there on the field. And I don't like making excuses for people. But I think if you just think about this from Ryan Day's side in his head, I'm wondering if he's thinking I shouldn't coach here. I should not even. I can't even. How am I even gonna. And they're singing that a Carmen, Ohio song order. He's not. His head is thinking about his family going to the grocery store. Store. Yeah. In Ohio. And going to school in sports and having to live their life and what he's had to go through. Because these Ohio State fans are very passionate. Very, very. Especially about this one. So I think that. About Ryan Day, personally. I think Ryan Day was there physically, but not actually. And then whenever he comes back to it and it's all. I think he did kind of look bad there then for sure. Because I think Shron Moore was in there. He was trying his best.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

That's.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, it's chaos. That's when, you know, leaders are, you know, supposed to step up in the midst. And it's hard once starts and it's just people, you don't know what's going. And you got no helmet, pepper sprayed and everything. Like some, you know, assistant coaches and everybody usually running there. So you want to be somewhere around the mix, making sure you're getting your guys out of there, getting to safety overall. But so, you know, like you said, it's a bad look. A lot's going on in a short amount of time. We saw Mason Graham getting live, you know, being interviewed live.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, that was s. And then he's.

[Darius Butler]

Like, oh, like it's going down. Put my helmet on. But you're going in there and try to sort things out. But once again, he's different. 350 pound man with a helmet on as opposed to head coach, so. But that's why you get paid the big bucks.

[Pat McAfee]

Also. We can't reiterate this enough. The fact that they care enough.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, like that. We gotta keep that. We can never lose that. Everybody thought they were gonna lose that. Remember, we're gonna lose these rivalries. And I think when guys go on the ground is when the pepper spraying starts. Started. I think.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

If there were.

[Gumpy]

Yeah. That's where it gets scary, I think for people.

[Pat McAfee]

Stampedes potentially have a trampling and everything like that. And obviously the cops were going to be outmanned.

[Tone Diggs]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Outside everything. And they were basically the ones that were going to have to keep this thing at bay. Yeah. Graham, what the hell's going. What's this? Oh, excuse me, Excuse me. All right, all right. Sorry, sorry. There. I'm gonna have to get back into this thing. Let me tighten this up as well. There's a couple guys that went flying in there with no helmet.

[Gumpy]

And I thought I noticed that right away. Like, strap it up. No matter what. Strap it up.

[Pat McAfee]

And everybody has to show face. And once again, here's a whole nother concept. Once five of your guys, like Graham right there, once he saw any of his guys, have to. Have to show face because they're actually watching film to see who isn't.

[Darius Butler]

At minimum. At minimum, to get your guys out and like. Like, you know, take it down, take it back. If anything, got to jump in there, defend one of your guys. But it's just a wild situation. And if you played team sports, you've been in some type of scuffle, some type. You know, it's a lot of. A lot of going. A lot of testosterone out there. So definitely a wild, wild scene with the peppers and all that. Emotions are high. These guys, you know, a lot of them should have. Three been there three, four years have lost. Yeah. Losing this game at home.

[Gumpy]

Jack's from Columbus. He from Pington, too. The suburb of Columbus.

[Pat McAfee]

33. The one that was saying, they're not doing that. Owen Forges. He's going to have to live with that forever. They go on and win the national championship this year. Let's just say they do. Ohio State. Jack is going to be asked by his friends about still, you know, they.

[Ty Schmidt]

Get the pants they were talking about. Yeah, like the gold pants you get when you beat Michigan. Ohio State players get them. Like, that'll always be a.

[Pat McAfee]

Why you got gold.

[Darius Butler]

Let me pair you.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, you got special gold pants. What, you sleep in them like. Like the Mormon. The Mormons. Don't they sleep. Sleeping? Yeah, you sleep in special gold pants over there.

[Gumpy]

No, they're. It's like a pendant. You put on a necklace. You get it every time you. You beat Michigan. You get a pair of gold pants with the score on the back. It's comes from a coach way back in the day that gave a speech saying, hey, they put their pants on one leg at a time, just like us. So then, boom, gold pants are what you get when you win.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so you got a couple. Why don't we see the necklace?

[Gumpy]

You got three of them. Yeah, that's three of them.

[Pat McAfee]

When do you wear them? Do you wear them when you go to the game?

[Gumpy]

No, no, I do not. But yeah, I have them.

[Ty Schmidt]

You don't wear them.

[Gumpy]

Oh, buddy.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Of course, that's about safe. If you left those stranded and then you say you don't wear your.

[Gumpy]

Oh, no, no, I'm still. I'm still with the boys. You know that.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. All right.

[AJ Hawk]

This is the type of, though, that I don't understand really. Like, the reaction to like what happened. Like, obviously you'd never want to see like a massive melee like that and like guys getting pepper sprayed on a.

[Pat McAfee]

Promoting it.

[AJ Hawk]

Exactly. But like that's genuine hate. Like Ohio State and Michigan, not only the schools but like the fans, they hate each other. Like it's real. They really do hate each other. So like, you know, we want to and whine about like, hey, this is why college football, it's going to get ruined because some of these great rivalries, we're not going to get these anymore. Like this still got it. And this is the type of. That can happen. Like it can, you know, like obviously, yeah, you don't want. Like it's not like after that everyone's like, oh, that was awesome. That should happen every single year. But like, look at that shit.

[Pat McAfee]

They.

[AJ Hawk]

That's been happening for how long. You beat Michigan and you get a pendant for a necklace. Like they care.

[Pat McAfee]

It matters.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, yeah.

[Gumpy]

And yeah, imagine, hey, quickly imagine the other way. If all of a sudden, let's say they. There's a. Now there's a happy medium. I understand between what I'm going to tell you, but let's say they were out there hugging and smiling in Jersey, swapping. Oh my God, that would be. That would be horrendous.

[Pat McAfee]

Ohio State fans would not go to the. They would say, Ryan, yeah, he. He has his boys hugging Michigan, they don't care. Exchanging jerseys. What are we even.

[Tone Diggs]

I mean the players that were there is. There was during the melee. There's a group of players huddled, praying after the game. They were getting. Praying after the game.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Well, God bless them, right? And. And boy, down at College Station, you can feel Jesus.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh yeah.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, you can. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I got a couple people that were not happy that I said that at the beginning. And I'm like, like, oh, I didn't know you people actually existed. There is people that just get like super pissed off whenever Jesus Christ is mentioned. Oh yeah. It's like I'm just pointing out. I'm just pointing out where. I'm just trying to introduce you to where we are here.

[Tone Diggs]

Were they anti Jesus or pro G's.

[Pat McAfee]

People saying, I I had one lady. Well, obviously I said later that one lady. That was awesome. Yeah. She didn't think I saw just immediately. Yeah. Boom. See you see later lady. Boom. She said I had turned off cuz at pass pat. She wanted me to see it. She wanted. She wanted me. Cynthia, if that's her name, probably a troll. I had to turn it off because there was too Much pandering from at Pat McAfee Show. And I was like, well, just once. Commercial break. First thing that pops up, we gotta quote this on. And later, lady. Go ahead. Welcome to the thunderdome. You know, this is what you wanted, okay. Because other than that, like, getting to experience that place down there was sweet. It was. Went to Cavender's, you know, which is a great western store. Store.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The people were fantastic. My man Juan was the one who pointed me in the right direction for the hat that I was wearing there. Lucasy gave great hat. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Big rig.

[Pat McAfee]

Guess how much that had if you had to get.

[Gumpy]

Oh, twelve hundred dollars.

[Tone Diggs]

That was gonna be my cap. Guess.

[Pat McAfee]

541. That's an American hat. Wow. Yeah. The brand is actually American now. And the deal I was looking at. So as soon as walk in, I think Brendan and Chris, two workers for Cavenders. They looked awesome. We're talking sweet dress to the kn. We're talking very sweet. They. They were obviously, I believe they're fans of program or game day. They knew immediately who I was when I walked in there. And they go, pat Cavenders. Welcome to Cavenders. I'm like, thank you. Where's the hats at, boys? You know, where's the hats at? And they go this way. So I walk over, and there's an entire wall of them. 80 bucks, 90 bucks, whatever. I'm looking all these things, and I'm trying to find a good one because I know I'm wearing black and gray the next day, so I know what the fit is, so I'm trying to match it. And this guy Juan, who's pretty jacked up, he goes, big guy like you, that hat. And he points at it, and it was this one. There he is. There's Juan right there. That's my man, Juan. Juan goes, big guy like you. He goes like this a couple times. He goes, that's your hat right there. And I like, started. I started. I was like, okay, thanks, Juan. He goes. And he hits. He like, like, hits me. He goes, that's your hat right there. And I turned around, and it was this hat sitting up on, like, its own. You know, you go to a car dealership, they got a car up on the thing. It was like this hat was, like, up on, like, a pedestal, and it was like, that's your hat right there. And I'm like, all right. Hell, yeah. Is there show lights on it, too? No, it felt. Yeah. Underneath, it was, like, lit up. It was. I was like, all right, let me check this out. And Obviously it was 4x the price of the other half I was looking at. But as soon as I put it on my head, it was like, oh, that's nice. And then they said like, what type of. What type of shape you want on this thing? I think that's the jb, is what that's called the jb. I want with the jb.

[Gumpy]

They do that in the top. Do they adjust it in the store because it looks sweet? I do like that.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah. They shaped that thing right there for you. And then there's something that you can get around the top, like the little. There's like a little band or something you can put around the top right there. And they were right there at the bottom. And I go, oh, I can get one of these bands. And the guy that works cabinet goes, don't do that. Nobody does that. So this is. These are all just like fugazi goes, yes, yes. This is for people to walk in here and be like, oh, I'm gonna. And we just. Nobody does that. Just do the one. That's what comes on the hat. I'm like, thank you.

[AJ Hawk]

Thank you.

[Gumpy]

Appreciate it.

[Pat McAfee]

Because there was this big ass. Big ass thing I was gonna put around there. Like, nobody that ain't. Don't do that. So Juan Chris. Chris Brendan. I think it was a JC in there. The whole crew of Cavenders, they took care of me, man. It was. It was gumpy. That was a cool place to walk in and out of.

[Bill Belichick]

Yeah, that place was awesome. It was electric in there. There was. Pat's hat is unbelievable. There was so many good hats there. You could spend hours in there.

[Pat McAfee]

We were only in there 20 minutes in and out. It got pretty chaotic.

[Tone Diggs]

Gums, you get a hat.

[Bill Belichick]

No, I didn't.

[Pat McAfee]

It.

[Bill Belichick]

We. It got pretty. Yeah, it was wild trying to get out of there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, there's good people down there, a lot of really good people, you know, and try and do the whole thing. But it was. That was a cool story. I would go to Cavender's if I just. They got shit now.

[Ty Schmidt]

Check it out.

[Pat McAfee]

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[AJ Hawk]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Tone Diggs]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[AJ Hawk]

You just have to score a ton.

[Gumpy]

Of leads and figure out a way to turn them all into customers. Plus manage a dozen channels, write a million blogs and launch a hundred campaigns all at once.

[Pat McAfee]

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[AJ Hawk]

No sweat. Okay, fine, it's a lot of sweat.

[Gumpy]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Gumpy]

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[Pat McAfee]

Football it is wonderful. I, I love that we get a chance to talk about it every day.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

What a joke. What a joke. Happy Thanksgiving, A.J. sorry. You're Ohio State Buckeyes laden egg in Columbus. And I tell you what, Ryan Day didn't really give me that good of an answer on game day either.

[AJ Hawk]

I did notice that a little bit.

[Pat McAfee]

I said, hey, you know, you do that thing at the end of the game against Indiana. A lot of people in Indiana weren't happy. I actually loved it. I love the message you sent to your players. You guys have like an edge. Do you, do you feel like you have an edge? And he was like, yeah, always gonna have an edge. It was like, oh, this guy's locked in. Yeah. Or he hates my guts.

[Ty Schmidt]

One of the two.

[Pat McAfee]

So are we one or the other thankful to him for doing that for us? That was a Fox game, obviously. So him putting a headset on, talking to us was great, but it felt like he was. Was there a lot of anxiety in that stadium? Was there anxiety in that stadium earlier? Really?

[Gumpy]

Who? I don't know. Anxiety, I would say as the game went on. Absolutely. When you looked like, oh, because I don't know how you guys watch a game like when you are cheering for your team. Whatever. First quarter, second quarter, like okay, even a half time, like now we're going to turn not. Here we go, let's go. We're going to turn on. It's 10, 10 half. We're good to go now. And then the later it gets in the game and the closer the game is still very close. Or you're behind. Yeah. A lot of anxiety.

[Pat McAfee]

Here's, here's the. God. I'm trying to figure out which phone number is your phone number now. There it is. I have four different AJ Hawk numbers in my phone.

[Ty Schmidt]

Nice.

[Pat McAfee]

I think you've changed your number a couple different times.

[Gumpy]

I've had the same one. I have a Wisconsin area code, bud. I'm still 20 years ago.

[Pat McAfee]

So do you have an email? Is my email popping up in here? We gotta figure that out.

[Gumpy]

I do have an email. I do use email, but I wonder.

[Pat McAfee]

If it's in my. Do you. You know how to use email?

[AJ Hawk]

What?

[Gumpy]

Oh, yeah. I'm a great emailer, actually.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I don't even know if you can hit keys.

[Gumpy]

You'd be surprised.

[Pat McAfee]

I took the typing class where your WPM, dude.

[Gumpy]

Oh, like 5,000 probably.

[Pat McAfee]

That's where it's making up whatever the top is.

[Gumpy]

Whatever the top is?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. 5,000 words per minute. Of course, we watched Schefter have four words per minute earlier when he was trying to put that T Hill update out. This is the text between me and AJ So Gumpy and I fly back from Texas A and M. So we're following the games on our phones.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, updates. WI Fi. Hit or miss here. Been a couple weeks now in a row. I don't know what's going on. Still bad, buddy. Multiple planes.

[Ty Schmidt]

Interesting.

[Pat McAfee]

Multiple planes now. Hit or miss. Very spotty. Can't even play songs that we don't have.

[Ty Schmidt]

Don't like that.

[Pat McAfee]

Can't, you know, need that.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that's tough.

[Pat McAfee]

Very tough. It's like you're Amish. You feel like you're Amish on a private plane now. Very nice. Obviously, everything is much better than having to travel any other way. But I'm just saying it. Whenever a lot of sports are happening, whenever there's a dump of Updates, like every 15 minutes to your phone, it's hard to keep up. While we were seeing what was going on with Ohio State, Michigan, it was like we were looking forward to the next bump in WI Fi. And it was like, well, Ohio State would have to turn it on. They'll have turned on at some point. And then, no, we're still a 1010, brother. And then, no, we're still a 1010, brother. No, we're still a 1010,' brother. So I sent a text to AJ who's at the game. I go, brother, what the hell's going on? Need score. Td, man. That's what his response was. I had no service. Next text was, will Howard has a concussion. Definitely. That's what you said. For sure.

[Ty Schmidt]

That is what he's got a lot of.

[Tone Diggs]

Bill Levison, I thought.

[Gumpy]

I thought initially, and then I Saw him pop up and he. I don't know if they showed on tv.

[Bill Belichick]

He.

[Gumpy]

He went to the tent and then he ran a sprint down the sidelines. Okay. It got. The whole place went crazy. Like it was an awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so he didn't have a. That's what you followed up with Nails? You followed up with past protocol?

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, he was sprinting up and down the sideline like.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that was your next text. So then I said, we're on a plane. Horrendous Wi Fi. We're getting updates every 10 minutes. And then your next one is, I am in stadium. They have to win. Then next update, they will then need to score a td. Then I get home, I watch the end of that game. Jack Sawyer, big time pick.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Holy hell. The Columbus kid did it. And then what happens? Nothing. We're going back to age. I couldn't even imagine the emotional roller coaster of you with a bunch of Buckeyes too, because I know how those fans are with you. Aj, Good to see. Hey, good to see you. No way we lose today. Go to the next suite. Hey, good to see you. No way we'll score a touchdown. Down you get that final sweep. We might not. We might not. Is that what it was like for you and your fam?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, I would say. I brought a couple of my kids and one of my daughter's friends with us and we went to a suite that we go in a lot. Guys, a man, Tom. This guy Tom, I love him, but he is a big, huge Die hard fan. And just watching his reaction. It's his suite. There's a million people in there. His kids are back from college. All these people are having a good time. And as the game went, yeah, it got a little quieter and quieter and got more nervous and frustrated. And then I think more disbelief then towards the end for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, hey, listen. Still got everything in front of you. That's right. Maybe.

[Gumpy]

What a play here by Jack. What a play by Jack Bates.

[Pat McAfee]

Him. Baits him into it. Everybody's calling a terrible throw. Obviously Kirk Cousins had a couple of those. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Way worse than that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that running, that was. Yeah, it into five guys.

[Gumpy]

That was incredible.

[Pat McAfee]

There was good five guys there. He didn't see it. Of them. He had four picks and it seemed like he didn't see the other team at all. I respect. Yeah, he. There isn't a defense on the field when Kirk Cousins. No. No way. That's what it felt like with yesterday's Kirk touchdown. You know what they're calling for Already? Oh, yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah. It does not matter how good you play. Two weeks ago, what did you do this week? Four picks. Four picks. Is that what we spent the eighth overall pick on? To sit and watch Catherine throw four picks?

[Darius Butler]

The bad picks.

[Pat McAfee]

It's like, well, you paid him 180 million. It's like, yeah, well, maybe we just. Maybe we just not this one. Okay, that's not. Obviously, that's a great place. Shout out to the Chargers being a great football team. I don't even think it's this one.

[Ty Schmidt]

Which, no, that one wasn't grading.

[Pat McAfee]

That one was an easy one too. A duck hunter. Whenever it's coming across the screen. That one, you know, Sean, that one slips out of his hand. Anytime you're throwing it out and it slows. Problematic. This would be the one that makes you go, what the fuck is Kirk Cousins doing? And I think Kirk watches it. Back goes, what am I, what am I doing? What team am I on? You know, that one was the one. And then Derwin James has a game sealer where he makes a massive play here and gets another pick. But with all that being said, they were still a drive away from winning this thing. Yeah, you know, they could have went down there and won this and moved on. Instead, now the Los Angeles Chargers are 8 and 4. The Atlanta Falcons are still sitting atop the NFC south, battling right now with the Bucks. But it's like, hey, that did not look good. Sometimes you're going to have the. Kirk's going to have those days. Quarterbacks are going to have those days. But the Chargers defense made a lot of plays even whenever Kirk wasn't handling them.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, been the best scoring defense all year long. I felt coming into that game it would be a low scoring game, probably come down to a field goal. But yeah, that defense, Tahib still like, he's been great all year long. 5th round pick, rookie out of Maryland, I believe, making great plays. Two of those picks, one pick six. Getting sacks like Kirk Cousins cannot play that bag. Especially when it's a guy like Michael Penix who took in the top 10 in the wings. I don't think they make a move now because you don't want to put a rookie quarterback in there still trying to figure this shit out. You know, when you still are leading your division, you still can host a home playoff game, but it's going, it's going to continue to get loud. That's just what happens when you bring in a talented backup quarterback, whether it's in the draft or free Agency. These things are going to get loud when you start to play like this. That, that. That throw, that was bad.

[Pat McAfee]

It was terrible. Derwin James, though, the game sealer at the end where he jumps around and he's doing stuff that, like, just freak athletes. Yeah, just absolute freak. He was all over the place.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he was unbelievable there. They had a third and one, and he was like five yards in the backfield right at after the snap. Like, he's one of those guys. Selfishly, of course, I think we can all probably echo this sentiment. Like, that's the dude you just want on your football team.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

He does everything. And he's such a sure tackler. Like, anytime he's around the ball, it feels like if he gets his hands on you, like, you're going down no matter what. The thing about that last Kirk interception, too. Or not his last one, I guess his third one. The fuck it. Throw to the end zone. Bijan Robinson is running across his face. And granted, definitely sure could have got tackled, you know, either immediately or right after. But you just give the ball to that guy. There's a chance he makes two or three people miss, and he gets in the man.

[Pat McAfee]

Kirk. Doing a cool Kirk Co. Chain's underhanded shot.

[Darius Butler]

Throw it away. You got the field.

[Ty Schmidt]

You got a field.

[Pat McAfee]

Go.

[Darius Butler]

Excuse him.

[Ty Schmidt]

Tuck it and run.

[AJ Hawk]

He can still move.

[Pat McAfee]

I want to see John.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Darius Butler]

That was. I mean, I can't play.

[Gumpy]

But what if he threads the needle, though? What if he threads the needle?

[AJ Hawk]

That's what he was thinking.

[Ty Schmidt]

But that's the thing. Like the thread the needle thing. Yeah, he's throwing a balloon. Is the needle what I mean?

[Pat McAfee]

So the needle would be flat, like you're trying to lay in a needle.

[Gumpy]

And what if this gets tipped seven times and his guy comes down with it? Then we're all.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, he knows he throws a very catchable ball.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he's throwing a fl.

[Pat McAfee]

That one may be the most catchable that he's ever. He's ever thr. I mean, that one, you. I didn't watch the entire game yet. Okay. I certainly will with NFL Plus Premium NFL Pro, where you can watch through it all or whatever. I didn't get to see it all, but, boy, I did see all of his interceptions in that one. I had to watch it, like 30 times. I was like, they're. Kirk ain't. And then you. Then you fast forward through it. It's like they're still in this thing somehow. They are still in this. That Elena Fox Pockets team Still can go and get it with everything they have, and Kirk's gonna have to limit that. But the Chargers team, they're very much alive. They're very.

[Gumpy]

Number one scoring defense. You say debut number one scoring defense.

[Darius Butler]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

That.

[Gumpy]

That's the number one stat that I care about. If I'm trying to look at a defense. How many points do you give up? Like, that's. You can get lost and all the other stuff. But that is such a huge thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you see who Jim Harbaugh caught up at the end of the game? Who? All defense. Come on. Oh, no. I don't know what that means. I think I've been in there before where an entire unit has been called up and then normally everybody's back in their areas. You kind of just mill up into the middle and then all of a sudden the middle isn't there anymore. Now. Now the middle is moved just a little bit. So now defense has to stand in the front the entire thing. And they did. For he's a jolly good fellow for.

[Ty Schmidt]

He'S a jolly good pair.

[Pat McAfee]

Darwin, James, Jim Hor. Big hug. They're all in.

[Gumpy]

They're both fun to win. It's fun to win, man.

[Ty Schmidt]

Derwin and Harbaugh are boys.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Ty Schmidt]

Feels like after every game you see about Lad Lab.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, sorry. Con. Lad's killing it.

[Pat McAfee]

He's a beast. Quick. He looks like he's, what, literally 13 years old. Yeah, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

He got banged up. Did he come back in the game?

[Pat McAfee]

I saw him do a jersey.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay, cool.

[Darius Butler]

That's the only problem, too. He is their only.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Consistent wide receiver. Weapon on the outside. And he's a rookie. He is phenomenal. But as you get later in these games when you got to beat a Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen or Mar Jax, like, you're going to have to have some dependable weapons on the outside. Hopefully J.K. dobbins get back in there at some point. But yeah, calling up that whole defense, when you have four picks, a force fumble and a touchdown on defense, obviously still is going to get a game ball, but probably, you know, it's a whole, hey, everybody on defense gets a game ball despite performance.

[Pat McAfee]

They love Jim over there. Yeah, you're winning, too. So he can just continue to build on them, you know, whenever they lose. Like, that's why the Detroit Lions thing is so impressive because mcdc was completely defeated for a long time. Right at the beginning, 0:10. He's doing all his speaking the exact same way he's speaking now. But at that time with Only an interim head coach of the Miami Dolphins experience. And they're losing, losing, losing. He's still, you know, man, like, sometimes you eat a sandwich and each bite is not gonna have as much meat as every other bite. And today's the day where we got all bread, no meat, man. And that's just how it's gonna be. He's saying shit like that at the beginning, and everybody's like, fuck this guy. You know, even a locker room's even started. Like, some places a locker room would start thinking like that, but instead, everybody in Detroit was like, yeah, I do hate whenever I have a sandwich with too much. And they just keep buying in, keep buying in. And then what? He cried right after the first win. Yep, exactly. Well, they started out 0. 10 his first year. Disastrous start. Then they did a little bit better second season. They start out one and six, and everyone's like, what the are we doing here? And then they started winning games. So I'm just glad they had patience because Same old Lions. You might fire that guy right away. No. Yeah. Forget the ownership. I'm talking about the players in the locker room. Like, players in a locker room seemingly were like, yeah, we enjoy this mountain of a man who's making us do 30 up downs before practice. Not five, not 10. And he's doing them with us. Like, we believe in this guy. And then obviously it's paid off with Jim Harbaugh, the way he is. Like, him having success helps out so much just for everybody, buying in and being a fan of it. And I'm happy it's happening for him.

[Ty Schmidt]

Over there and him being like an older guy. Right. Because it feels like hiring an older head coach was kind of out for a little while. Everyone's looking for, like, the young guy that's going to be with your team for the next 20, 25 years. Like, Harbaugh is in his 60s, right? Yeah, late 50s. 60s. So it feels like because of that, like a guy like Pete Carroll or Bill or even like Vrabel would be more so on the board just because of, like, the culture setter that they all are.

[Pat McAfee]

So Chicago's open, New Orleans is open. New York, York is open. What other places are going to be open?

[Ty Schmidt]

The other New York.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, because he said it sounds like. Right.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, they're gonna wait till the end of the year to figure that out.

[Pat McAfee]

They said Trevor staying seemingly from the deal, that was appreciated.

[Ty Schmidt]

And he brought up the guy they signed on Sunday, Walker Little. The left tackle.

[AJ Hawk]

Raiders will definitely be open. What I think so Any surprises you.

[Gumpy]

Think after the season that might pop up? Up job opening that we're not thinking of?

[Pat McAfee]

Let's just go across the bottom of each division there. Cleveland. Seems like he's going to be okay, right?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Got an extension a little while back.

[Ty Schmidt]

I think Zach Taylor would be a surprise.

[Tone Diggs]

Yes, it would.

[Pat McAfee]

Mostly. Does he have any years left on his deal?

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So then no way. Oh, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, that is. That's not happening in Cincinnati. Jacksonville, seemingly. Doug was supposed to be fired, what, two weeks ago. Yeah. And then they continue to lose. He's still there and he is awesome on a microphone. We need more press conferences out of him. Tennessee. That was a absolute ass beating.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Will Lettuce was sweet though. That throwaway rolling left.

[Ty Schmidt]

Filthy. You see the screen grab 28. Nothing. And he's just dying. Laughing on the sideline, looking at. Looking at some tablet. It was actually comedy.

[Pat McAfee]

We appreciate Will laugh contributions.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

That would be sport. That would be a surprise. Like, hey, we brought you in here to be like an offensive guy and Will Levis is the worst quarterback in the NFL.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you remember going into the year and I'm not going to say it was any of you guys.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was definitely me. Granted to rile up some Colts fans, but I definitely.

[Pat McAfee]

You aren't the only one, though.

[Ty Schmidt]

Talk myself into it.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of people were believing that Will Levis was a guy like they're going to build around Will Levitate. They're gonna keep doing this draft o line.

[Ty Schmidt]

Go get Calvin Ridley, pay him a bunch. L'Jerry a sneeze alert.

[Pat McAfee]

That was a real Pollard.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Great, great offseason moves. I thought I definitely have faith look a lot better than they look this year. Yeah, sure.

[Pat McAfee]

People are saying Will's franchise quarterback, though. And I was like, what? What? Yeah, this is the. He was just checking something out. No, I know.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was a. It was a full blown. I. I think that's the photo I tweeted out. I got like six photos in a row. Just because, you know, you take a bunch of them to get a good grab. He was laughing like hard.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I couldn't believe what was going on. He couldn't believe his eyes, you know.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Maybe made some plays afterwards.

[Pat McAfee]

You ever laugh at a funeral? Can't understand whatever. Of course.

[AJ Hawk]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, that's. Of course that's what Levis.

[AJ Hawk]

This could be. This could have been different too. Like if he wouldn't have decided week one when they were beating the Bears, like throw behind his back.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[AJ Hawk]

You know like when they were down in the red zone. Just saying it. I'm gonna try to make a play. I'm trying to be number one on sports center top 10 and every week. Yeah. And then inevitably, you know, throwing pick sixes, fumbling like.

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean the jets did it again.

[AJ Hawk]

He had like four. I mean you hate to do this ever, but he had like four games in a row where it was like will ever single handedly lost them that game.

[Pat McAfee]

You do, you do.

[AJ Hawk]

Because it's a lot of stuff happens during a game.

[Ty Schmidt]

Obviously.

[AJ Hawk]

He has, he has.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. The coach goes, what the.

[Tone Diggs]

Mason was in there for a few. Yeah, they probably.

[Pat McAfee]

He was. He was awesome though. It's been.

[Gumpy]

He's not boring. He is not boring. He's fun to watch.

[Ty Schmidt]

My favorite player in the NFL.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah. He plays fun ball. He puts fun in football.

[Ty Schmidt]

He does, he does.

[AJ Hawk]

It's. I mean he's, you know, what do they always say? He's is a children's game for a king's ransom. He takes that to heart.

[Pat McAfee]

He does. Yes, he does. No, place that head down sprint after the. The best. The best.

[AJ Hawk]

This the best thing I've seen in an NFL game in 20 years.

[Pat McAfee]

He has to know that he's a content. He's a content guy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he's a content creator. Playing quarterback.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't mean to laugh at you, but boy, let's get back to the standings here. Tennessee. That would be wild.

[Ty Schmidt]

I think Patriots.

[Pat McAfee]

Callahan would be crazy. What's that? We're not Patriots.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, no. I'm saying would be surprising. I'm not saying going to happen. I'm just saying like that would be a team.

[Pat McAfee]

So we assume the Patriots is safe because like if Kraft was to do that, that would be a massive omission.

[AJ Hawk]

Correct.

[Pat McAfee]

In a very hostile situation. And hostile is an interesting way to describe, but kind of loud. Loud. It's a very loud situation. So. And I'm not saying that Coach Mayo deserves to be fired in they're 3 and 10 same. They got a rookie quarterback first year in this entire thing. They got to build up that team. I think they know that. But if Kraft was to fire the head coach one year after what happened, happened with Bill, with how loud it all was, that doesn't feel like reality.

[Ty Schmidt]

And everything that was said after.

[Pat McAfee]

About both parties.

[Ty Schmidt]

About both parties. But like just what he has said about Mayo throughout, you know, the off season in the past year, it would be. If he were to do that, he would basically be saying like, yeah, I'm the dumbest guy in football.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So Coach Mayo, we assume, is going to get you for sure. Big win for the Indianapolis Colts yesterday. Big drive right down the field. Stay alive, then go for two.

[Gumpy]

Oh, no, but that last. That might be a bit of a holding on that last one, that two point conversion.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I mean, you call it a hold, we'll call it tough football. Sorry, I thought that's a word play.

[Gumpy]

It's a nice powerful run, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Great.

[Gumpy]

Very powerful.

[Pat McAfee]

It was. Whenever he does that, it's tough to stop. That's why he got all the way to third and goal down there. I think for them to score and it's like, steichen, we got to play. Yeah, fourth and goal, Steichen, we got to play. Remember, we put him out on the edge and then he just runs over.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, you can.

[Pat McAfee]

Safety or a corner.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, he just tripped. That was in the hole.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that was good.

[Ty Schmidt]

That was crazy.

[Gumpy]

I like that they went for two. I'm glad they did it.

[Darius Butler]

I loved that. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. It was good for football. Good for football. Colts still very much in it.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Two head. Two head things. Yep, it was. It was a chilly day up there. Certainly a little windy. He looks sweet. He looks sweet. Slide.

[Ty Schmidt]

Getting a 68 yarder at the end.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, almost look good. Almost short.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, by two yards. Barely.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, I mean, it was.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, you think he thought that was in, though? Cold as 27 degrees. They said it felt like trying to hit a 68 yarder.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it was definitely chilly.

[Pat McAfee]

I think it was like two yards, right? Pause. Oh, can you go back?

[Gumpy]

Yard and a half maybe?

[Ty Schmidt]

It was close, but. Yeah, I mean, you definitely wanted to lose this.

[Gumpy]

Oh, he thought he had it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So that's like probably two yards, two yard short. So he hits from 66 and 27 degrees.

[Bill Belichick]

It's pretty good.

[Pat McAfee]

That's fucking bomb. That is a fucking bomb. Imagine that ball goes through, though. Oh, my God, what a win. Sly missed one earlier. I don't know. Did he?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he missed one short and immediately looked at the holder like, what the fuck, man?

[Pat McAfee]

Murders the football. Like a 66 yarder and 27 degrees would be insane. It's going to get colder, though. You know, there's going to be colder games that happen. I hope everybody understands that that was playing in that game yesterday. That it is. It is going to get cold, especially.

[Ty Schmidt]

In those playoff teams.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Which we still. Colts. Sorry. The Indianapolis Colts still have very much in front of him.

[Ty Schmidt]

Drake Mays, he is so fucking good.

[Pat McAfee]

It is. There's a Lot of things he does, you know, like Bill said, he's judging his team on if they can win championship in certain situations. There's a lot of things he does during that game where you're like, oh fuck, this is a guy.

[Ty Schmidt]

He is.

[Pat McAfee]

He got the edge on Quitty Pay a couple of times. It was like he looks so fast. Yeah, I had no idea he was this fast.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's very legit.

[Pat McAfee]

Very much so actually. What are the stats right now that he's leading in?

[Ty Schmidt]

He has the highest average yards per rush by a quarterback in like the history of NFL or the last 20 years over Mike Vick. Granted that'll, you know, he's still got to finish out the year but everything out of New England sucks except for Drake May right now and Christian Gonzalez. Christian Gonzalez genuinely is an all pro cornerback. I hope he does get it. AP tone talking to you. But Drake May himself, yeah, he is the reason there's so much hope in New England. And you know the offensive line, first and goal from the one, you know, flash forward 30 seconds, first and goal from the 21 yard line. Like there are a lot of things that need to be better and it basically starts and almost ends there just because Drake May is that good. Like his, like the receivers, you could say, yeah, they don't really have anyone playing receiver. But that's not that big of a problem. Like Drake May is hitting guys in the chest, even a couple.

[Pat McAfee]

He's very fun to watch.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, yeah. He's electrifying. Like everything he does. It's like the guy can actually do no wrong in New England's eyes right now. And if we figure out that old line, I mean it could be a quick, quick turnaround.

[Pat McAfee]

Anthony Richardson scored a touchdown and two point conversion and big time win to keep everything in front of him. Let's go back to the seating. So Patriots would be wild if they fired their coach. Remember that's where this conversation is. We go over jets already fired their coach. Dolphins aren't right.

[AJ Hawk]

Dolphins aren't going to say is there any chance? I mean I don't think it'll happen.

[Ty Schmidt]

But still without the record with TUA too.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that, buddy?

[Bill Belichick]

Still win.

[Pat McAfee]

We're not talking about play playoffs.

[Bill Belichick]

Oh no, we're not firing Greer tied together.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, so let's continue with teams that are under 500 Raiders. That would be a surprise obviously one year in, but I think there's been more and more chatter about that than I think we could have expected. Like more and more chatter about that.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Him coming out and saying this is the best team in football versus worst team in football.

[AJ Hawk]

Can't say that.

[Pat McAfee]

And we can change the narrative.

[AJ Hawk]

You just can't say that.

[Pat McAfee]

And then you lose.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. You just can't say that. Like, everyone can think it. You can't go out there and be like, hey, listen, everyone knows I fucking suck at my job. Okay, but let's go try to win. Like, you just don't say what everybody knows. Everybody knows they stink.

[Pat McAfee]

You're saying inside voices. Like an Anthony Richardson situation earlier. Inside voices. Inside voices. We do. So maybe the writers. I guess that would be a surprise, though, one year into this entire thing, even though they're only 2 and 10 giants. I think we're all wondering there. We thought that could have happened in the first hour when she was acting like he was getting a text message. Cowboys. It wouldn't be a firing. It would just be a lack of a renewal for Mike McCarthy. I think we're all assuming that's gonna happen.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, until Jerry now said, like, well, it's not another realm of possibility. I give him a five, six year extension.

[Pat McAfee]

And then Mike, I think, laughed into the microphone whenever it was mentioned. All the.

[AJ Hawk]

All the media started.

[Pat McAfee]

Funny about that. Win 12 games every year this year. But I think we're all expecting new coach in Dallas, right?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

The boys are playing hard for us, which you love that, especially without the starting quarterback. And it been an uphill battle for the rest of the season. But, yes, I'm right along with.

[Pat McAfee]

And I don't. I don't. We're not saying we won it. We're just saying that it seems like that is probably.

[Ty Schmidt]

No doubt.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And then Niners don't think that's going to be a thing. Rams not going to be a thing. Gannon Cannon's definitely not going to be a thing. And then how about McDonald over there with Seattle?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Tone Diggs]

Playing ball.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, did you see their post after they beat the Jets? No.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was.

[Pat McAfee]

It was pretty cool. It was pretty cool. It was them on a train, and then Aaron was on the outside of one side of the train, and I think their. Their mascot was hanging from the middle of it. Obviously. There was a bunch of, like, little.

[Ty Schmidt]

Whoa, Mexico, like, hanging like that.

[Pat McAfee]

No, like, what are you. What are you. You're talking about, like, cartels? Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. This is like a celebratory post here. Look. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, Seattle's mascot.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. We're talking about the Seahawks.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like, good.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, you said Aaron I wasn't sure if you.

[Pat McAfee]

Aaron's on the outside over there. Devonte's on the other side. Where? Yeah, man, I don't see you. Okay. Pretty clever. Pretty clever. Obviously.

[Darius Butler]

Spill some sauce.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, spill some sauce. You see the JSPN up there on her? I think it's potentially shot at, you know, Aaron coming on this particular program.

[Ty Schmidt]

Nice.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, jsp, espn. The jets are behind Ellis A. Greenberg, obviously jets fan. Rex Ryan, former Jets coach, potentially future jets coach. He's on tv. A lot of jets talk on television, not a lot of Seattle Seahawk talk on television. We're part of the problem. We agree. With that being said, Gino Smith's a dog. Yeah, his post was fantastic.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Just want to make sure he was dead, bro.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, there was a nice.

[Pat McAfee]

Just wanted to make sure he was dead, you know, just. I believe the original post of said photo said, stop by my biggest header's funeral today to make sure he was dead.

[Bill Belichick]

Rip, bozo.

[Gumpy]

It's got legs. That one's got legs.

[Pat McAfee]

Gino's balling.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes, he is.

[Pat McAfee]

McDonald's cooking. Go for the CEO. Hey, how about the Seattle. Seattle CSPN. Yeah. Huh.

[Darius Butler]

Leonard Williams.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Tone Diggs]

Moving dude.

[Pat McAfee]

How far to go? 92 yards.

[Ty Schmidt]

Moving, flying.

[Pat McAfee]

He said he thought he was going to get caught and then he just realized he wasn't. He was like, wow, I'm already. He was flying. Knee drive.

[Darius Butler]

Former. Former Jet too, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tone Diggs]

26 miles an hour.

[Pat McAfee]

How about the bat? First of all, left handed, back into the air to himself, moving, then he catches. Then we got knee drive, legs flying out running, everybody. I mean, what a moment. That didn't feel so good. And since you scored, they're going to kick extra point and then you're back on the field and you know, 2114 there. I think the jets even had a kickoff return touchdown to help them with the lead. This is the biggest lead that Aaron Rodgers has ever had and then ended up losing, I think in the history of his career.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

At home.

[Tone Diggs]

Happy birthday.

[Pat McAfee]

Happy birthday, Aaron.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Geez.

[Pat McAfee]

Jeez, that was tough. What'd you get him for his birthday, A.J. did you say. Hey, here's a. What was those paintings used to hand out there, buddy?

[Gumpy]

Oh, Picasso. No, I haven't. I have not. I don't know if Picasso is still doing work. I have to check out, check in on him and see if he. I can commission a piece maybe. He does good work. He's passionate.

[Pat McAfee]

Commission a piece.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he's still doing.

[Gumpy]

What do you mean? That's what you do. This is what I'm looking for. Can you use your shafted balls and paint it?

[Pat McAfee]

That's Picasso football, baby. Okay, let's make our picks and then we'll do these overreactions. What was the final? I think you got me this week. And we picked four games. Thanksgiving and Black Friday. Yeah, you want two and two. I want one and three.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, time.

[Gumpy]

When's the last time Kansas city covered?

[Pat McAfee]

Never.

[Ty Schmidt]

September 08.

[Pat McAfee]

I think the good thing about me is I'm picking them every time. Yeah, I know. Me too, too. Oh, yeah, you did.

[Gumpy]

I didn't pick him.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the. The Dolphins. My pick of the Dolphins. What a joke that was as I was watching.

[Bill Belichick]

That was my fault.

[Pat McAfee]

I was laughing so hard. It was literally as the game started, I was like, what the am I? I'm from Pittsburgh. What I don't want. I don't want these South Florida dudes just to walk in and smack the packers in the mouth anyway. What am I. I almost felt like I. I picked against my cell phone. I'm like, why would I do that? Why. Why would I even. And it's because I've been traveling around.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, you're fine with it.

[Bill Belichick]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Travel around with Gumpy. And he's been showing me all. I've seen every good to a thing that has happened in the Tua's life over the last few weeks because he'll have some video and it's like, what is it? It's like this is Tua's little baby boy shaving some hospital. It's like, okay, so Tua can handle the cold. Is what I started thinking to myself, what a fucking joke that was. No shot.

[AJ Hawk]

No.

[Bill Belichick]

I mean, he threw for 370. I don't know if it was on tour.

[Pat McAfee]

Zatua. Okay, I'm not saying to it, but I'm just saying Dolphins as a whole. Yeah, I mean, that is.

[AJ Hawk]

He played like shit in the first half, though. He threw for 370 when the game was over. But I. I mean it. They showed Mike McDaniel on the sideline the first quarter and he was shivering to the bone, his nose so red. And then they were talking about on the. The broadcast, like, you know, the dolphins packed 4,500 pounds of cold gear for this game. I was like, okay, there's no way they're winning.

[Pat McAfee]

That's standard operating procedure for NFL teams to take jackets and parkas and heaters and everything like that. Which is why equipment managers lives suck away cold games. Packing up after first of all, unloading beforehand, man.

[Gumpy]

Give him some more layers, man.

[AJ Hawk]

Icy cold.

[Pat McAfee]

I think that was wind. I don't think that's him.

[AJ Hawk]

That was him.

[Tone Diggs]

Shake.

[Gumpy]

I was watching that real time. I was wondering is this shivering or is this the one?

[Pat McAfee]

You guys think he's shivering right there.

[AJ Hawk]

I do, I do. Look how fucking red his nose is.

[Bill Belichick]

People do actually believe he. Him being cold is the reason the Dolphins lost. Not anything that happened on the football field because McDaniel was cold.

[Pat McAfee]

I would like to let the world know I didn't even think there was a thought that he was shivering there because that big gut you can gust of wind blows the pack paper at first and he's fighting against the wind. But I love the people. I don't want to say are massive haters, but I love that people just go, look at the shivering. I mean, nothing else. Look, that guy's hanging and nothing else.

[Tone Diggs]

Is moving in the video. That's him shivering.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, of course.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, you could hear him going to.

[Pat McAfee]

Get a play call.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

What is.

[AJ Hawk]

I can't.

[Darius Butler]

What's the F. Boy didn't have sleeves on it. He thugged it up.

[Gumpy]

Not many guys on offense had sleeves.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I know. Tyreek didn't.

[Pat McAfee]

They showed the warm up clips. Did you see the warm up clips?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Shirtless.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Packers coming out for warm ups and then the Dolphins coming out for their warm up. And obviously it's a mindset. The cold is. But it's much easier to get the right mindset whenever you've been in it living.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And you're in it a lot.

[Gumpy]

You kind of know what to expect too. You kind of know what it's going to be like. Some of those guys, this is the first time experiencing Knife.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You have no idea that. Yeah. Your knees are going to feel that way. Yeah. You're never. You're never going to get fully warm. Yeah. That ain't. Well, I had a whole game and.

[AJ Hawk]

It could have been like, I mean, they forced a three and out and then dude muffs the punt, Right?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Right away and it's like, okay.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought whin did that on purpose.

[AJ Hawk]

I think so too.

[Pat McAfee]

I think he. He's good.

[AJ Hawk]

He has been an. I mean, I haven't watched every other punter. Obviously you would know much better. But like, I think he should go to the Pro Bowl.

[Pat McAfee]

He's phenomenal.

[AJ Hawk]

He's been un. Unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

This was on purpose too. Like, I think he brought this one down from the sky and there was one later in the Game that almost got him too. Had him moving. This kid's like a bomber.

[AJ Hawk]

He's good. He's very good.

[Pat McAfee]

And it was windy and cold. Ireland, windy and cold.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That ain't nothing new.

[AJ Hawk]

Nope.

[Pat McAfee]

Told buddy it's almost like he's built for Now. I'm not saying all Australians aren't, but I think there's portions of Australia that are like very like warm and everything like that. Ireland is shitty weather.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like great people. Great, wonderful times. That Guinness beer tastes.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh God.

[Ty Schmidt]

Nothing better.

[Pat McAfee]

Two gulps. Want to split the G? Want to make it disappear? That's right. And then you move on to the next and you hup, hup, hup, hup. Up your way through town and it is a blast. But this wheeling character. I'm a massive fan and I don't know know what all the punters are like. I don't, I don't get to watch enough. If they come to Lucas Oil Stadium, I'll try to watch them in warmups. If they play, I'll try to watch them in the games. But it's hard watching on tv, you know, unless you have like a stopwatch to really know who's what and who has good coverage, who doesn't. But every time I watch him hit a ball, it's a big ball. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

He is so consistent. It's. It really does. Every time they're backed up like he is, he is flipping the field every single time. I can't remember one time this year where he's like, like shank the punt or like put the packers in like a bad situation. It seems like he is always putting them in a good situation.

[Pat McAfee]

Obviously very hard place to play. Punt. Very, very hard place to punt. So normally like the Steelers for instance, Steelers hard place to punt. AFC north, hard place to punt. So normally their fans are going to hate the punter. Right? This guy. Yeah. He'll hit one, go one, but then we're going to get a bad one. It's like, well, it was 20 mile an hour wins. There's a chance that as that ball is falling that it moves and he doesn't hit it clean. Like there's a chance that's going to happen in those places. So in Green Bay, I just assumed that it was always going to be like a. Like that's just how it's going to go. Just cuz science. This guy's figured it out. Yeah, he is. I'm. I don't want to say like I have a Pro bowl vote cuz I don't Tone has an AP vote. I. I don't have anything like that, but I think with the limited amount that I've seen, every time I watch this guy, he murders the ball. Yeah. Every single time. And that's what I like to see.

[AJ Hawk]

And the packers have, like, they've kind of been in this situation where they've been looking for, like, a consistent punter that they could. And, you know, they had two guys in the last three years and then kind of just picked him off the scrap heap, and you weren't really expecting much. And he's turned into, like. He's a weapon. He is an absolute weapon.

[Pat McAfee]

I think he brought that one down on the Miami Bosch. He said, hey, listen, let's see how it feels. Coming to. Boom. Touchdown. Gotcha. Let the Irish lad make a play. You know who's back? Who's that? Bryce Young. Yeah. They lose again. They did, but Bryce Young's back. Not his fault, AJ I don't know how much you got to see. Obviously, Tampa Bay and Baker Mayfield get another win. Congrats to the Bucks. Big drive. Great field goal. Good work. But Bryce Young, Dave Canales. This Carolina Panthers team has looked so much better. Better. And it all started when David Tepper said, yeah, you can use my stadium. You can use all of this. It feels like there was a little bit of good karma put into the universe. And then all of a sudden, a football guide said, thank you. Jesus Christ. We just been waiting on this entire thing. And now after the benching of Bryce Young, him watching Andy Dalton for a few, maybe Canales's offense getting more ingrained, maybe the culture of Morgan getting in great. Like, they look like a good team now. Once again, again, Tampa Bay Buccaneers win this game. Carolina Panthers lose again. Carolina Panthers record is not going to be a great one when it's all said and done. But with that being said, I think we got hope that Bryce Young isn't a bust.

[Gumpy]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like a lot of hope that Bryce Young isn't a bust. He's going to be a good footballer. Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Looks much more comfortable since coming back from the bench and had a. Had a great late touchdown pass and then just had an unfortunate fumble from Hubbard and overtime just kind of set the Bucks up. But yeah, he's look great. Him and Anthony Richardson. I felt like the benching, seeing the game from a different perspective, maybe taking some of the weight off of certain things, learning certain things have worked out well for both of them. But Bryce Young looks like a totally new quarterback, so obviously first year still A bunch of holes on that roster, but you can actually look at the quarterback position to have hope going forward. Adam Thielen had an unbelievable game.

[Pat McAfee]

There's an exciting white down there in Carolina.

[Darius Butler]

Hold up. That one head catch he had late in the game, I believe was that overtime or fourth quarter?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it was over time.

[Darius Butler]

Nasty. So they overturned it, Stole that td. Yeah, yeah, but he was, he was unbelievable as well.

[Pat McAfee]

8 receptions, 99 yards. Adam Thielen all the way back. Carolina Panthers team, maybe they don't suck, actually.

[Gumpy]

So is Bryce Young there next year? Is it. I mean, when they benched, they were saying, oh, they're gonna have to go get a quarterback and all this stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I think there, he has to be there. I think that's what I had a.

[Gumpy]

Couple give this to him.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I mean, you, you make that type of catch, it's right in front of your face. Just go ahead and say, I got it right first time. Go ahead, don't worry about it. I'll see you later. I, I appreciate that. They said we're not trading Bryce. This is a part of our plan. We're going to bench him. We're going to let him like breathe maybe for the first time in his, what, whole life? Yep, just let him breathe and then we'll let him watch some stuff, get him back in there. And that's why they said they're. We didn't give up on him. And just like the Indianapolis Colts said, we're not giving up on it.

[Darius Butler]

Anthony Richardson, that's how you respond, man. As a young player, should everybody go through shit rather than football or not? But especially in football, everybody's watching. Especially when you're a high pick. And it's a lot, you know, that we can't really associate with or know what those quarterbacks deal with because you are a CEO in your early 20s of a multi billion dollar, you know, franchise. So you got to get out there and play a show on the field week in and week out. So I'm glad to see this from Bryce.

[Pat McAfee]

Speaking of Andrew Luck.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, pretty cool.

[Pat McAfee]

That was wild. I learned about that. He called me Friday night and said, hey, tomorrow we're announcing that I'm going to be the general manager of the Stanford football program and I'll be on college game day or whatever. And I was like, that's awesome. I had no idea. We caught up for like 20, 30 minutes. It was a good conversation about what he's going to be doing. He's running that program. He is. He's Running that coach.

[Gumpy]

He worked for the ad or he and the AD work together. How's that go?

[Pat McAfee]

I think he reports the school. I may be ad, whatever the case is, but he is like, I don't say football czar, but he is the football operation. Like, and I think that's why Kirk asked him, like, how hands on are you gonna be, like, every day? Like, are you gonna be in there? It's like, I think he is gonna be, like, around. Like. Like a general manager would be like, yeah, around. Hey, I think we should maybe try this. If he wants to. He said he has faith and trust in the coach. He was a part of the hiring process of the coach. So I think he doesn't want to come in immediately. Just cut this guy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Completely off. But I think everybody in Stanford's like, andrew, if you're going to commit your entire being to our football team, we are certainly okay with that. Because in this new world, if you're not able to get money, get funds or get attention or relevancy, it doesn't matter. And it's like, I think with what Oliver's been able to do, because Oliver's an MLS team. He's won a world, he's run a World League team, he's run a college team. Obviously he's run. I forget what else. There's another league he ran, so he ran up.

[Gumpy]

Was he doing the XFL too?

[Pat McAfee]

Xfl? I think he ran the ncaa. I mean, like, Oliver has, like, run so literally his entire life. And Andrew has been a part of functioning and running teams. Not saying that he is doing it, but with how smart he is and his dad's there and he's around it. I think he has a good grasp on how. What it's going to take. And it's like, Stanford is so incredibly lucky he signed up to do that. Now, how it goes, I don't know. I don't know.

[Darius Butler]

They pump out good athletes.

[Pat McAfee]

25 guys in the NFL.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, they pump out good. I know he mentioned it's obviously going to be different than a lot of different programs around, because, you know, I think he said the line, like, best and the brightest, I'm sure is that's only line. And obviously the academics play a huge part in that. But you kind of talked about it. We talked about just the position of, like, gms and this probably being a pipeline to the NFL. Now, I don't necessarily see that for Andrew Luck. I can see. Maybe we'll see, but I can see him being a GM at Stanford for 30 years as well. So I don't see it necessarily for him. But for this position now on the collegiate level with all these big time programs now, I think a lot of these NFL teams will kind of be plucking from those as opposed to, you know, hiring a guy that a lot of us, you know, never hear of until they get that opportunity.

[Pat McAfee]

Strategy, roster construction, negotiations, dealing with people scouting, recruiting. I mean that's like all the. He's going to be doing a lot of. So it's like NFL teams never had a chance before to see how people have been able to handle it. If you had to do this. And everybody's going to be on the same. If you're able to get to the high revenue amount, which is the 22% of overall revenue with a cap at 20, whatever million it is and whatever the process is going to be. So if your revenue can get there, everybody should be on the same playing field. So you're literally going to be able to find out who can and who can. So for the NFL hiring cycles, what a blessing. What a, what a, what a very, very good thing to take place. But for like colleges and I think Andrew's gonna have success, but I think there's gonna be a lot of places that are probably gonna try to duplicate this and get a GM in there obviously. And this person's now our capologist and what if that person's crop.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, then you're true.

[Pat McAfee]

What if, what if that person is a cropologist and not a topologist but you have no idea until what year three or four. Like how do you, when do you know? And that could set back your shit for a long time. Yeah, if that happens.

[AJ Hawk]

That's the difference difference between the NFL and college is like if you that up you can set a school back for like five to 10 years. Whereas in the NFL you can just be like, all right, well we this up, let's get rid of a bunch of these guys and then maybe we'll hit on a couple guys in the draft and free agency. Like if you that up in college, like you're talking about being a doormat for several years.

[Pat McAfee]

Listening to coaches that potentially won a gig for the last 24 hours or so. Talk about roster construction and money and things like that. That's, that's a nice added cool thing. That is a weapon if you get somebody. Like if somebody can make do with lower percentage at the quarterback position, you know, just like the NFL if you can make do or figure out how to not spend as Much at one position and then what the reasonable prices are for the other positions at high levels.

[Darius Butler]

Go.

[Pat McAfee]

It's like if you could put together a good roster, which you can, if you can figure it out, it's like that is a weapon for you. Now granted, you can have some schools that just have, you know, a never ending.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Oregon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or Ohio State or Georgia.

[Gumpy]

I don't know.

[Ty Schmidt]

I was just throwing out big Texas.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, Michigan.

[Darius Butler]

A new yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. Ohio State, definitely.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, does it matter though?

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean?

[AJ Hawk]

You spend all this fucking money, you can't be a 5 and 5 Michigan team. You know, it's like, what we doing?

[Pat McAfee]

Don't be piling on.

[AJ Hawk]

I'm not trying to. I feel so bad for Ryan Day, I really do.

[Pat McAfee]

We gotta win the fucking game.

[AJ Hawk]

You gotta win the game and you cannot look. Be looking shell shocked after the game like that.

[Pat McAfee]

If you're. You'd be a bit shell shocked.

[AJ Hawk]

I agree.

[Pat McAfee]

What? Don't you think you'd find yourself in a little bit of a quagmire? Maybe? Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. I mean, certainly.

[Pat McAfee]

Certainly.

[AJ Hawk]

And then. And he was right to think that way because boom. Right after the game. I mean, and I would never advocate. This is bullshit. Don't do this kind of stuff. But people releasing his fucking address on Twitter.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah. Oh yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's fucked up.

[AJ Hawk]

Which you can't be doing that.

[Pat McAfee]

And so people are wondering why he's.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

At the end of that game. Exactly. He knows that's running through his head. There's somebody that probably sent him an email like two days before the game. Hey, just want to let you know. Know exactly where you lose. Yeah, go ahead and lose this one.

[AJ Hawk]

Got home, had 150 for sale signs in his front yard. People ding dong ditching him all night.

[Pat McAfee]

For sale by neighbor.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Ty Schmidt]

Egging his house.

[Pat McAfee]

Not by owner.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Not by realtor. For sale by Columbus, Ohio. Geez, if you're going through. Through hell, keep on going. Don't slow down if you snap. Basically, Ryan Day's in hell right now. What if he just keeps on going? Go in that Nettie devil might not even know he's there. Yeah, true, the neighbors do. But he might be able to get to that brightest dawn after the darkest day. Right.

[AJ Hawk]

Or tuck tail and go to the NFL.

[Pat McAfee]

Say this.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Either way, I commit my entire life to that. And I can't even get ice cream. No, I can't even go get ice cream.

[Tone Diggs]

No ice cream.

[Pat McAfee]

Because the person at the Ice cream store said you be Michigan. Maybe you can get two scoops.

[Ty Schmidt]

Even DoorDash. Oh, delivering to Ryan day.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, my God.

[Ty Schmidt]

Watch this.

[Pat McAfee]

No, doordash is still door.

[AJ Hawk]

Dash won't enjoy what I put in your. Your fry cup instead of fries.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, cuz it says Ryan D. Bingo. And now they know his address.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, the messages that could be written on bags.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, no. Yeah, we found that out. That kind of freaks me out a little bit. Be honest. A lot of freaking me out lately. People are showing up in my house. That freaks me out. People writing on my bags, coming in doordash. That freaks me out. Like, so, you know, it's. So I said, what's.

[Ty Schmidt]

Don't like that?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't like that.

[Gumpy]

It's always nice things, though, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but then that could be.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

On the other side. And I'm from Pittsburgh, so that's my first thought. People out here in Indiana, they're probably great people out here. But my first thought is, I don't like the thought that anybody knows that this is my drink. And then immediately afterwards, it's like, oh, I'm drinking a lug espresso right now. You didn't spit in this or what? Is he gonna spit in this drink? No, we like you. We just set it on the back. All right. You're good people. Thank you.

[Ty Schmidt]

You sure?

[Pat McAfee]

I'm gonna put four splendors in to cover up your spit. Thank you so much. It's a great time to be alive. We've. We have hit a wild point of being alive. Not complaining. Lucky to be here, thankful to be here, but boy, try to go to Cavender's, get a bucket. And it's like, hey, how you doing? And I want to talk to every person because I like to learn stuff. It's how I learn stuff. People are way too nice. People say too much to me. I learned too much about people too quickly. People are just sharing everything with me. Oh, all right. Well, it's very nice to meet you. Thank you so much. Like, watching our show, like, people watch our show, and then I'll get a story from everybody that watches. Watches the program and, like, everything it does. And it's, like, super, like, cool and, like, very emotional. And it's like, man, I just want to hug this person. And then, you know. Very nice to meet you. Can we take a photo? Yes, Would love to take a photo. Anything else you need? And then all of a sudden, you look up, and it's like, all right, here we go. Here's no. And the story that's coming right behind it is, like, so real. And it's like, golly, man. I didn't know that our dumb ass is actually. If we affect people's lives, you know that. That's not good. We affect people's lives, like, very much so. It's wild.

[Darius Butler]

You win one of those giveaways, I got a little taste of what your mentions probably look like on a daily basis.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a lot, dude. People are so. People really invested in the show. That's what I learned. People all the way. College Station, Texas, way the down there. By the way, Texas is far.

[Ty Schmidt]

Second trip down there.

[Pat McAfee]

Texas far.

[Gumpy]

It's a pretty big state.

[Pat McAfee]

Huge. So big. And if you have a plane that doesn't have, like, a thing that tells you where you're at, you're just in time capsule.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And then when the time zone changes, you don't know if your phone's right or what's right. Oh, yeah. So you don't know what time it actually is. Have we been in here an hour or three hours at all? Oh, I did. I'm not 100 sure how many times we heard this one song, because we can only play 10 songs. So when. How have we. You know, so you start doing that math, and then you get all the way down down there, and then you meet people that just, like, come up to you, like, thank you for your show, and they'll say stuff about you. Con. I hear stories about all. It's. It's really cool. We're lucky as to do this now. That being said, let's make our picture tonight.

[Ty Schmidt]

Here we go.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm one and three. Age is two and two. The line is back to six and a half. Oh, D. Butch. Who do you like? How do you like it?

[Darius Butler]

You know what every six and a half? Broncos. Everything in me tells. Broncos Bo Nicks is playing phenomenal. Defense is great, but I just feel like that's probably three too many points for Jameis Winston. He is a wild card, and anytime everybody's against him, he kind of shows up and puts a thorn in everybody's side. So I'm gonna go. Jameis Winston and the Browns, they cover against the Broncos, who win in a close quarter. Most very meaningful game for them.

[Pat McAfee]

I can't wait until he does a speech tonight that is a take on a speech that everybody has heard. Like lights. It's not about the lights. It's not about the camera. It's not about the action. But it is about the action. I like that what if tonight's, like, good for the goose, good for a gander take. I mean, there's just so many different things.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I kind of wish that we could wait to hear what speech Jameis is giving before making this pick. And since it's a prime time game, we're going to hear everything and see everything that Jameis does tonight.

[Gumpy]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And shout out to us for getting to do.

[Ty Schmidt]

Thank God.

[Darius Butler]

Best part about it, he doesn't even have a clue what he's going to say.

[Pat McAfee]

Nope. That's why whenever he thinks of it. Home run.

[Ty Schmidt]

Got it.

[Pat McAfee]

He's elf as a quarterback. Yeah. That is a phenomenal place to be for all of us. He likes the bronze plus six and a half. AJ who do you like?

[Gumpy]

Man, I do love Jameis. I love everything about him. But I am taking the Broncos here tonight to win by a touchdown or more.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I'll take the bronze plus six and a half.

[Ty Schmidt]

Worked last time.

[Pat McAfee]

It did.

[Gumpy]

You don't want them.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you want the bronze?

[Gumpy]

No. But a lot of times this, like, I. The points usually come back to get me when I do. When I take teams, you know, with.

[Pat McAfee]

This many points, that's against spread.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's the point of handicap.

[Pat McAfee]

Happened again. That's what I'm saying.

[Darius Butler]

Like, you're waffling.

[Pat McAfee]

You want Browns plus six and a half or.

[Gumpy]

No, no, I want the Broncos minus six and a half, and I'm confident that they're gonna do it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Didn't sound like confidence going against Ohio.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh. Especially with what just happened with Michigan. They're planting flags.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's pretty messed up.

[Pat McAfee]

You want the Browns?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, I'll take the Broncos.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I did think he was going with the Browns, Right. I was like, oh, I'm on the Broncos also.

[Ty Schmidt]

I thought we got him.

[Pat McAfee]

All right.

[Gumpy]

Big Bernie Kosar fan growing up. But, you know, I'll take the Bron.

[Ty Schmidt]

Not that big.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I'll take Jim Brown in the bronze.

[Gumpy]

There you go.

[Pat McAfee]

Plus six and a half. And the Miz. Let's see what the. The Miz is doing.

[Ty Schmidt]

Test aver.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

What's the M playing? Golf.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's see.

[Gumpy]

Is he a scratch golfer yet?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dull before the ball is hit. Yeah. Yep.

[Gumpy]

Looks great.

[Pat McAfee]

Then once the ball's hit, we're 152.

[Gumpy]

Great swing I've never seen, but with such a good swing that hits the ball so terribly.

[Pat McAfee]

And setup, too. Swing, setup, conversation, strategy, time, follow through is amazing.

[Ty Schmidt]

Everything he does a green jacket in all those categories.

[Darius Butler]

That's probably why it takes too long, I think. I think bad karma should come to people take too long to golf.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you. Have you seen the Miss Golf?

[Gumpy]

You might be honest.

[Darius Butler]

I've heard about it.

[Pat McAfee]

It's made its way to you.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I've heard.

[Tone Diggs]

I've heard.

[Pat McAfee]

So that that happened the first time Miz was in the tournament. We were in the 10 after, afterwards, and I had bruised heels and toes. I just walked a golf course for the first time in my life. Okay, sit down. I'm tired. I think AJ comes over because he had done the par three contest. And he said, boy, the Miz has pissed off everybody. That's what AJ said. And then he goes. I go, what do you mean? He goes. He does the setup deal. And AJ obviously being AJ doesn't really describe it. And he said as soon as he got to the middle of it. Who? The guy that hosts the that one game show.

[Ty Schmidt]

Anthony Anderson.

[Pat McAfee]

Anthony Anderson, yeah. Goes every shot. This is what happened, right? Didn't you say that that's what he did?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

When everyone's like, yeah, it's the closest to the pin. Everyone is surrounding the Miz on the tee box as he's doing this whole takeaway, his whole thing.

[Pat McAfee]

And Anthony Anderson goes average. I was with this guy today. And then I think. I think Charles Barkley said something. We heard Charles Barkley say something. So I'm just sitting in this tent and the Miz is coming back because he needs to work on his six iron or something.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hitting the range.

[Pat McAfee]

He was coming back to hit the range because he needed to work on his six iron because of the round that he had. And I just said like one thing. I said like, heard you're the worst golfer to ever play with. And he stops. Who told you that? Is everybody talking about this?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, he was really. He was worried.

[Pat McAfee]

He was. It was awesome. I'm like, yeah, everybody. I heard. I heard everybody's talking about it, but who specifically? Because I need to know who all is talking about this, because I don't think. Yeah, I set up. And then he goes on a full on. And every once in a while I'm trying to hit a fade. And like, obviously we know he can't. He has no idea. He's just trying to hit the ball is what he's trying to do. But he thinks he's Phil Mickelson and that's Ms. Football.

[Ty Schmidt]

One day he will be.

[Pat McAfee]

One day he will just the full on, the moving of the hands.

[Darius Butler]

They said a nice wing, though.

[Gumpy]

No, Beautiful. It's a great looking swing. For real, though. I. Okay, you played with the Miz however many years ago, and I. You guys posted some clips. I said, man, did the miss shoot par because it only showed his swing and his follow through. But then you guys were like, no, absolutely not. And I had to see it a.

[Pat McAfee]

Week before or two weeks before the American Century Championship out there. The Miz was driving through Indianapolis because there was like a show in Cincy and then a show in Chicago. And like, let's golf in the morning if you're going to be in Indianapolis. I love. I love golf. We're going to be playing at Tahoe together or whatever. And then we. He was there, the first person there in the morning. He's at the driving range and he has his get up. His get up looks awesome. So I'm like, oh, the Miz must be a player. He must be a stick. And I see a swing. I'm like, this guy's going to be good at golf. And then we got out there and it was. He was the worst golfer. It was so bad. I've never seen anybody like his swing for real.

[Gumpy]

D. But though his swing looks good, like, you know, a lot of people like their swing looks like garbage. And the misses swing is beautiful.

[Pat McAfee]

Like his finish, like, everything he does is what golf is supposed to be.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like every. And he knows. And the reason why we know that he knows is because before every shot, he talks through what like a good golfer would and should do. So him and his caddy, who that guy, He's. He's never be around again. He's part of the problem.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he. He's the one fueling the fire.

[Darius Butler]

So he's like, yeah, I'm gonna draw it and try to just.

[Pat McAfee]

Buddy.

[Gumpy]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

They're doing it. He's doing this. He's doing this number here.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

If I hit it just like this and then I think I landed on the fringe and then it should trickle down. He's like 100 yards out. Right?

[Gumpy]

You're right. I forgot about all.

[Pat McAfee]

You remember that. And I'm.

[Gumpy]

They're talking through their shots as we're waiting to hit. They're talking through it before he's even addressing the ball.

[Pat McAfee]

He's on shot four, we're on shot three. Way up there.

[AJ Hawk]

The amount of times last year where like he was laying four or five and you and AJ Were up at the green, but you kind of just had to wait for him. I mean, it. That round took like eight hours.

[Pat McAfee]

It never ends. It.

[Ty Schmidt]

It this is minus 18.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. This is a little faster, I think. Look how good that swing looks. Look how good that swing.

[Gumpy]

It's pretty good, right?

[Darius Butler]

Holding, holding. The posture.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. See, that's best shot of day. That's why he's doing that.

[Gumpy]

So pumped.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

I'm telling you, that was a celebration for that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, exactly. Yes, yes, yes. I'm telling you.

[Darius Butler]

30. 30 foot put.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he made it probably. I mean, the business partner is alive probably, but we saw several times he's doing all that setup. All that setup, all the talk. That caddy, I've never. He's probably a good guy, but Chad.

[Gumpy]

Miss, I think, has a two and a half hour range session before he even plays.

[Pat McAfee]

That caddy has to sit there the entire time. The patience on that cat caddy, in belief in that caddy. It is something that I will hope to have someday with somebody like something. Well, double bogey is the worst score you can get in that tournament. And to not have the etiquette to be like, all right, I'm going to get a triple, an eight, whatever, and just pick up my ball and keep it moving. He doesn't do that. He's hitting five from 125 yards out. Yeah, he duffs it. He duffs it. Now he's hitting six. Got to make this for max score from 120. Still talking through the whole thing. Change the club. Yeah, we need a different club.

[AJ Hawk]

Give my wedge.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. That's the worst last time I tried for missing. I need to come up from this. Yeah, I need to hit a draw this time. Yeah, you're right. Let's draw. Let's close the hips a little bit. Let's make sure we get through it. Remember, we're trying to get hips clear before. Yeah, yeah. Aim at that tree there, man. Okay. Which one? The third. The third tree. I think that's probably the right place. And then you draw it up in there. It should go in.

[Ty Schmidt]

She run up there talking about the undulation, actually, for a double.

[Pat McAfee]

And I'm like, miss, I love you. I think you're one of the most entertaining people of all time. But like what Anthony Anderson and Charles Barkley said about you. People are dreading getting paired with you for this entire thing.

[Ty Schmidt]

Everything is happening.

[Pat McAfee]

But then he got a birdie. Got a birdie out of nowhere.

[AJ Hawk]

He did.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Couple screams so loud after that bird, the whole golf course heard him.

[Gumpy]

He was in last place, I believe, for the. After the day one, really, I think.

[Pat McAfee]

He'S been in last place every single time. He's RG3. RG3.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And then Don Cheadle actually wd withdraw for first day. Who's the. Dylan Dreyer, I think.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Weather person for NBC. She was. She loves golf, but she was down there. RG3 was down there. And then the miss. And then in the midst. I'm calling. We gotta get his deck. He's gonna be so mad. I've gotten better at golf, I'll have you know.

[Gumpy]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

He lives on a golf course.

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean, he still believes that they got a chance. The Browns just won. Didn't he tell you that?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. Before the game.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, before the game. After the game. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, Forget him. Let's go through some reactions. Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Gumpy]

Is he there?

[Pat McAfee]

I was just FaceTiming another person in the FaceTime list. Yep.

[Ty Schmidt]

S. Huh? Sal Masc.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, what a treat.

[Pat McAfee]

Need to FaceTime. Sal Masc. Yeah. That was a coach. Oh.

[Gumpy]

Oh.

[Pat McAfee]

Who just got a call.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

What I got. I got. I did it.

[AJ Hawk]

I did it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Pack up.

[Pat McAfee]

I do not have to say. I would like everybody know I do not have that say, but I do have. I think I do have say.

[Tone Diggs]

They want your partner.

[Pat McAfee]

I think there's an opinion. I think there is opinion, which is very nice and very cool. And I would like to talk for West Virginia more than anybody on earth. That'd be cool. Into one of these. And on Saturday, if you see everybody else on the table has their team to talk about except for one person, mathematically, you still. That's every week. Hey, just want to let you know. And then Colorado wins. Mathematically, we got no more shots. So then I have to say, mathematically eliminated yesterday. West Virginia. But boy, with everything that West Virginia has, there's a shot he could win.

[Ty Schmidt]

No doubt.

[Tone Diggs]

So they were out when they lost by 50 on Saturday.

[Pat McAfee]

They were already out. Yeah. Colorado's win knocked us out.

[Gumpy]

Who beat them?

[Pat McAfee]

Texas Tech. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. They're minus two and a half.

[Bill Belichick]

Texas Techs had a sneaky good year.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody's talking.

[Bill Belichick]

They have been good all year.

[Tone Diggs]

Covering machines.

[Gumpy]

Good team Lock.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. West Virginia football is absent a head coach right now. The search goes on. Ren Baker. Good luck, bub.

[Ty Schmidt]

Go get him. Ran.

[Darius Butler]

They did make a bowl game, though, right?

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. Interim head coach will be the offense coordinator who's been there for a long time. Excited to watch him do his.

[Ty Schmidt]

Not Victor Cabral.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't know how Cabral didn't get chose or Blaine Stewart, but I believe both of those Men say this guy's the right guy for the job.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Going to win the ball game.

[Darius Butler]

I saw you with a headset on, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I am undefeated as a race coach. Spring game. My team won. Now in the fourth quarter during one of the final drafts, I did have to go take a dump. So one of the biggest decisions that was made, I was not there for, like, Joe.

[Gumpy]

Like old Joe.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I'd figure out whether or not we wanted to go for it. We were up a certain.

[Gumpy]

Wait, what? Did you make the decision that you're going in? Okay, this is. This isn't waiting till the end of the game.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't make that decision, brother. Something else did, you know? Something else did. But once again, the boys made the right decision.

[AJ Hawk]

That's what a good coach does.

[Gumpy]

Natural in that position right there.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you so much. And you know, anybody that's ever been around me in any sporting event, these refs knew my voice. It did not. It did not matter if this was a spring game or not. Felt like our team was getting a little bit. We had four penalties called against us. The other team had none.

[Bill Belichick]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

And it was like, excuse me, I know this all fun of games. Okay. This is not how this is going to go. Okay. I just want to let you know. And to their credit, they got a little bit more fair towards the end.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

A little bit more fair towards the end. And that's all we can ask for. But, yes, I am undefeated as a head ball club coach at West Virginia, and I am not signing up to be a college football coach.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Ever.

[Ty Schmidt]

Fair enough.

[Pat McAfee]

Just put that one down.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe one day. Gm. That would be sick. GM would be a sweet job just to see if you're good at it or not.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, that'd be something. Like, you don't get a lot of opportunities to run a. A team. I mean, once they did it with college ball, there's like, opportunities. Yeah. Bunch at places.

[Tone Diggs]

Whoa. Left the. Left the.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. For the Bon G. Yeah. And remember, he couldn't even shower.

[AJ Hawk]

No, correct. Take a piss or a.

[Pat McAfee]

Now he's a general manager of a college basketball team, so I'm assuming it slowed down a little bit. More so than whenever he was an insider and had to be on top of it. But at some point in my life, maybe be GM of a team. College team, or just an NFL team. If somebody just wants to give me the old Jeff Saturday night.

[Tone Diggs]

That'd be sweet.

[Ty Schmidt]

That'd be cool, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Be a GM of the team.

[AJ Hawk]

Why not?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I manage a couple hundred million dollar salary cap, figure out strategy.

[Tone Diggs]

I know your fantasy team's on a roll.

[Ty Schmidt]

So we are no big deal.

[Darius Butler]

Don't look now we watch Hard Knocks. I think you could have those.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so too. Yeah, that actually gave me. Just so we're all clear.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Watching Hard Knocks, I was like, wait a minute. I can surround myself with people that know ball better than this guy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know what GM contracts look like. What is the head coach of college ball make? What's ryan day making? 8 million? 8?

[Gumpy]

I think they make around 8, right?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Kirby's the highest at what, 13 and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

What's prime making? Coach Prime? Yeah.

[Gumpy]

What is he?

[Darius Butler]

I want to say around 5 something 6.

[Pat McAfee]

Wasn't there percentages though too? There was like escalators, I think cuz.

[Tone Diggs]

Sig just got the upgrade to eight, I believe. If I remember correctly.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Because it was 864.

[Bill Belichick]

Five year 30 for Dion. 29.5 to be exact.

[Pat McAfee]

Is there any escalators in that or is that the. Was that the first deal he signed?

[Bill Belichick]

I'm just looking at the bonuses now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Because I think there was like ticket bonuses, revenue bonuses. I think everything was worked in there.

[Darius Butler]

What if his son has just tweeted out another bonus he just hit, I think for winning nine games and he came out and said that his guys will be playing a bowl game as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Huge news. Sorry.

[Darius Butler]

Bonus big in the. You know.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Winning the bowl game is probably a big deal. But also he was saying, you know, some of these programs have been set back years because they opted out of the bowl game. So he was talking directly about Florida State. Absolutely directly about it. And I think a lot of us who invest a lot of time in a college ball and want to keep some of these bowl games actually a little mean something. I'm happy he said it.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I'm very great to hear. I think so too. And he's got what, two top five guys on his team.

[Bill Belichick]

600K in bonuses just this season alone.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude does that in win success. Is there ticket revenue in there or.

[Bill Belichick]

No, it's just Big 12 and wins in the Big 12 and bowl game here.

[Pat McAfee]

See, I think because I thought there was a negotiation about like I thought.

[Gumpy]

I remember hearing that early on maybe last year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Because. And they didn't have the money to pay him. What the deal was anyway. So like then it became a percentage of earned. Like I wonder what West Virginia's Gonna have to pay the next coach.

[Tone Diggs]

Six.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot.

[Ty Schmidt]

Seven billion.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't wanna. I don't want to actively negotiate against West Virginia right now, but probably gonna have to pay somebody.

[Darius Butler]

And does it. It depends if that's their first gig or not. Because I know a lot of times if it's the first gig, it may be, you know, four and a half, five. But if it's somebody coming back that has a name that's been around, it may be seven.

[Pat McAfee]

And are they going to hire a GM? I wonder. I'm a FaceTime the fuck out of Run Baker tonight. Just add so much shit into his world. He's in the middle of it. He obviously everybody watching, like, Neil Brown, good guy. Good. Like, I think everybody agrees, good dude. Like good human. Represented West Virginia, classy way. You know, never spoke out of pocket about anything. Always gave credit to the other team, which was seemingly every week whenever they lost, you know, credit to this team, credit to this team, credit to this team, credit to this team. Like super good guy. Montages of him saying, credit to the other team. We won, like, super good dude.

[AJ Hawk]

Could be on 10.

[Pat McAfee]

We're five and five. Did you have fun or not? Like, you know, like tried to be a good guy.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Which we. I think the people had personal relationship with them. Obviously bummed out about the whole process, but it's like, could be a huge move for the whole state. Not just school, not just college football, but that entire state. If West Virginia is humming, that whole state is, you know, feeding off of it. Go ahead.

[Tone Diggs]

Neil was making four a year.

[Pat McAfee]

So. So that's probably around where it'll have to be. Four and a half. Yeah.

[Tone Diggs]

The highest paid in the Big 1212 is Mr. Gandhi. Now, he's been there for 18 years and he's at close to eight.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so four million, four and a half million. How many years of these deals? Normally? Five probably. How many years we have, Neil, we owed Neil like what, nine something.

[Gumpy]

Depends who they hire. Your debut, Right. Like a young guy that. A young up and comer you might have to give, you know, to get a little cheaper.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, two and a half.

[Gumpy]

What do you want to hire?

[Ty Schmidt]

I wonder what Dan Landing's first contract.

[Tone Diggs]

Contract was at Oregon.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he was. Remember he drove where from Arizona all the way to Pittsburgh. Yeah. Thanksgiving or something. What the story is.

[AJ Hawk]

Yep.

[Ty Schmidt]

His wife was pregnant or something.

[Pat McAfee]

Living out of his car. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That guy loves wall.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah. Looks like dan's making around 80 year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. How much did he make? Do we can he do that was it.

[AJ Hawk]

Like five to start. I think something like that.

[Pat McAfee]

Brock to see if Grok can go find that Grok will dig up some old news article.

[Tone Diggs]

Might be this one in August 22 this year. Salary increases from 4.7 to 7. And then he got another extension, I think this year, so.

[Pat McAfee]

And who all wanted him? Everybody wanted him, right? Yeah.

[Bill Belichick]

He getting some nice bonuses, too. Making the Big Ten championship. 11 win, 12 wins.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, if you win, why not?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Make the college football playoffs.

[Pat McAfee]

You got to have an nil with you, too. Even with the salary cap stuff. Like the nil stuff's going to matter.

[Gumpy]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Going to matter forever. Absolutely.

[Darius Butler]

The most important that should have happened in Michigan. That's wild.

[Pat McAfee]

Wild. Yeah. The names involved.

[Tone Diggs]

Well, that's gonna go away, but.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that money's very deep.

[Darius Butler]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

That one owns an island. That one, The. The. The money that was getting involved there.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Owns Lanai, which is one of the islands of Hawaii. He bought it. Just bought the island. I'll take it.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, but if he's not. If he. If he goes through a breakup, then he's not a Michigan backer anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

We're obviously not hoping for that. No, we love love.

[Darius Butler]

I'm sure.

[AJ Hawk]

Never bad having a guy around who just like, wipe his ass with a hundred million dollars and whatever.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, and then you had Portnoy into the mix. Yeah, they got. And then Michigan has all these people.

[AJ Hawk]

We'Ve never heard of.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a whole.

[Tone Diggs]

Tom was the third name of that.

[Ty Schmidt]

Tom Brady calling kids. You're not.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. West Virginia has an opportunity here to do something special. Second. Ain't that right, A.J.

[Gumpy]

That is right. You can. Hey, you put a squad together, you can win the Big 12.

[Pat McAfee]

How come you guys don't want to schedule this? Ohio State? I wouldn't either.

[Gumpy]

I'm sure they've tried. I want West Virginia in the Big Ten. I think. I think WVU should be in the Big Ten.

[Pat McAfee]

Why don't you give a call? Why don't you, in the general, go ahead and march up there. I guess you guys wouldn't let us in, right? Whenever we were up, I heard. I've heard from every conference why they wouldn't let us in. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Just looking at the program, we figured, you know what? Let's get Maryland football in here instead. They've showed us a little bit more recently.

[Pat McAfee]

It's not just about the. On the field. It's what all these conferences said.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Public Ivies.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, that's what they all say. Rutgers, I guess their academia is a little bit better in West Virginia.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, Rutgers, they're trying to capture the New York market.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, they brought in sh.

[Bill Belichick]

They got Chance beat the out of Michigan State to end the season.

[Ty Schmidt]

Who didn't?

[Pat McAfee]

Come on. We're a hockey school, though. Number one in the nation in hockey. Wow. When's the frozen Four, Paul? Pretty far away, actually. Oh, yeah, there it is. Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

End of March.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

April.

[Pat McAfee]

I love that. All right, let's do some overreaction, shall we? Every Monday of the football season, I'll put out a post on X. I'll say, hey, listen, I'd like to hear where your NFL fandom emotions are at. I'd like to hear your thoughts on your team. Use it as therapy. Don't feel like you're going to get judged. No, no. The best ones in Ty Schmidt's eyes will actually make the program. All you got to do is use the hashtag. I don't want to overreact today. Got all the way up to number two on the trending page of the United States of X, right behind Hunter. Obviously, it is hunting season in a lot of part of the United States of America.

[Ty Schmidt]

So also pardon.

[Pat McAfee]

Season for turkeys. For turkeys. Pardon.

[AJ Hawk]

Turkey.

[Ty Schmidt]

You saw the two, right? Like flea. Peach.

[Pat McAfee]

Peach. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Pardon turkeys and hunter, obviously. Tim McAfee. Go. Big buck is.

[Gumpy]

On top of that guy. On top of that thing, remember?

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, that was in Indiana.

[Gumpy]

Oh, he's got more. He's got more.

[Ty Schmidt]

That was a different one.

[Pat McAfee]

He no scopes some a buck here in Indiana. And then he walked into 17 mountains at 4am in Pennsylvania at his old hunting spot with his old buddy Tim, you know, and yeah, he got a buck, I think a nice shot. So that's why we couldn't get to number one, because all the hunters are out there in the woods hunting over.

[Ty Schmidt]

A million tweets about hunting.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. A lot of them.

[Darius Butler]

Sweet boy.

[Pat McAfee]

And good congrats to those two turkeys getting pardoned. That has to feel so good. Think about that. You come right out of the turkey farm. Farm and you see all these other turkeys. He's like, you're dead. You're dead. You did what I did. You're dead. You did what I did. You're dead. You. If. If you were to do what I'm about to do, dead. But instead, those turkeys walk right up there. President Biden's like, yeah, you're good, man. All right, man. You too, man.

[Ty Schmidt]

Did see some people saying the survivor guilt on those two turkeys are going to take them to the grave anyway.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I don't think these two turkeys have the ability to do that.

[AJ Hawk]

They don't need to worry about it. Fifteen minutes after that they're getting their heads cut off anyway.

[Tone Diggs]

That's not what Joe said.

[Pat McAfee]

No, that is not how pardons work, brother.

[Gumpy]

You pardon. You pardon you from the first wave.

[AJ Hawk]

Of killing and then at like 6:30pm Ah, I could get some turkey, man. What are those sons of. I just pardon. I cut their heads off.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, that's not how pardons work.

[AJ Hawk]

Deep fry him. I actually, I'll deep fry them on the White House stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

No, that isn't. Those turkeys are a.

[Tone Diggs]

Okay, why are we pardon these dogs?

[Pat McAfee]

I think they were 10 year old turkeys too. I think. And they just said, you're good. You're good, Royal. Yeah. So congrats to those turkeys.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep, congrats.

[Pat McAfee]

Anyways, number two, overall training, United States. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but let's dive into him. This one's from Tone Diggs. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but the Bengals defense might be the worst unit I've ever seen. They like the cocaine of the NFL. If an NFL offense needs a little pick me up, just head to Cincy for four quarters and do a little bump. That little bump is the tune of 414 passengers for Russell Wilson, over 500 yards of offense for Arthur Smith and Pittsburgh Steelers. Something that hasn't happened in Pittsburgh since what, Ban Rothlisberger was kind of manning that offense and they were the Triple B's or the Killer Bees or whatever it was. Tone Diggs, what did you mean by this particular tweet? And are you overreacting as a man that was actually there live in person?

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, Ben did it five times. Tommy Gunn, Tommy Maddox did it one time. Russ joins that illustrious crew. And I may be overreacting. I don't know because the, you know, the, the Chiefs beat him by, by one. The R.A. ravens beat him by one and three, you know, and some people on TV after those wins were like, oh my God, these teams are the greatest teams ever. But when Russ and The Steelers put 414 up over 500 yards total, it's just a piss poor Bengals defense.

[Pat McAfee]

Now.

[Tone Diggs]

I was there in person. They are horrendous. That's one of the worst units I've ever seen. But it's an NFL unit and the boys were rolling. They made no mistakes. I mean, yeah, Russ through the pick six. But what could have been a.

[Pat McAfee]

That was early. They responded, no punts.

[Tone Diggs]

They looked awesome. It was unbelievable. Because you know why last year's team against this Bengals defense. SA Bengals defense would have. It would have been a. They would have. They would have lost 33, 13 or 97. Or 97. Yes, correct. But yeah. But no, this team different. Russ, by the way, second in yards per game since he's started and they are six in points per game since he's a starter.

[Pat McAfee]

So nice time to remind everybody that coach Tomlin De Sac to put Russell Wilson as the starting quarterback over Justin Fields after Justin Fields had won some games. There was a lot of people that weren't necessarily thrilled with that. What has happened since then is an unlocking of an Arthur Smith offense that is fun to watch. Now, what the hell is going on with Luan Rumo in Boys in Cincinnati? AJ and who's the person on TV that Tone Diggs is talking about, you think?

[Gumpy]

I believe. Well, I just know that Tone Diggs been going back and forth with our. With Dano. I don't know if they, they've. They've patched things up. You guys are taking shots. You're taking shots at each other.

[Pat McAfee]

On personal. Okay. He said something about you.

[Tone Diggs]

Well, no. Well, kind of. The Steelers played the Ravens and he said, you know, you can't beat the Ravens just kicking field goals and was talking about the offense, which whatever you say on tv, that's fine. I completely agreed with him. And. And whatever you say on tv, because I say stupid stuff on TV all the time, that's fine. Okay. But then Thursday night against the Brown, Steelers lost and soon as that clock hit zeros, he hit the. He sent the night night Steph Curry gift. And I took that personally because that was a personal attack at all Steelers fans. That wasn't just him on TV talking about the Steelers offense.

[Pat McAfee]

He had to put that in his hand.

[Tone Diggs]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

At night in his bed.

[Darius Butler]

Off.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Tone Diggs]

And he said this team, his fan base, we all took that personal. So yesterday was a little bit of get back. Is he going to be right in the end?

[Pat McAfee]

Probably.

[Tone Diggs]

But yesterday was one of them nice little victories.

[Pat McAfee]

It wasn't just you, it was J too. Right. Because Jade and Dano really went after it. Yeah.

[Tone Diggs]

He also said after Lamar, you know, played the Bengals and did well, that he was, you know, best quarterback of all time. But, you know, Russ does it.

[Bill Belichick]

He stinks so it's okay to say you're wrong sometimes, Dan, we've been wrong a lot.

[Pat McAfee]

I was wrong about a tweet. Morgan Wallen did not offer up $500,000 for the volunteer fans to do fake tweet. That's on me completely. What a fucking dipshit. Of course Morgan Wallen wouldn't put up a half a million dollars. Hey, break the law. He's in the middle of some shit.

[AJ Hawk]

He is.

[Pat McAfee]

Why would the fuck would he do that? I read that on my phone as I was walking up to the thing. I'm like, hell yeah. Another reason to mention fucking Morgan fucking Wallen. And I'm picking Vandy. So this is gonna be. This is gonna be perfect. I sent it out there. Nailed it. Let's go to the next pick. I wake up yesterday, text brother, I did not offer up. That was a fake. Oh, my God. I'm so sorry. I hope I didn't get you in any trouble with that whole thing, but you gotta watch what's real and what's fake out there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it's hard to know.

[Pat McAfee]

I got. Got it yet again. It's getting tough out in Easter.

[Ty Schmidt]

You see the Manchester Airport or what?

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Ty Schmidt]

You guys didn't see this?

[Pat McAfee]

What happened?

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, I don't know if it's real or fake, but there's a glowing orb sitting.

[Pat McAfee]

No way. Don't do it.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, no.

[Darius Butler]

Call back up.

[Ty Schmidt]

This one was right above the. What's the Runway? It was like floating off the ground. All the planes had to stop.

[Pat McAfee]

Please. Globe. Huh?

[Ty Schmidt]

No, no, no, no. And like the planes had to stop. I still don't know what's going on.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll go kick this thing.

[Ty Schmidt]

No community, no notes.

[Darius Butler]

That's this.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that's it.

[Gumpy]

How do we not have a better picture of this if all the planes are shut down? We need better pictures.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's the thing right there.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

And then it just came down to the Runway and was. Just came down and they had to like hold planes. I still don't know if it's real.

[Pat McAfee]

It's Manchester, England.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Manchester, England. Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Can we. Is there any more of these things?

[Tone Diggs]

Like a pinata?

[Ty Schmidt]

There's one that. That is not a real video. I don't believe. That's like a render. That's a real photo.

[Gumpy]

Rendered. Why do we have a rendering?

[Pat McAfee]

So this thing just dropped down like a round drone.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

That. That ain't what me and Foxy saw. Me and Foxy saw a. Yeah, like a glow orange glow.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

But maybe that's what it looks like during the day. Yeah, we. We saw a nighttime thing, right?

[AJ Hawk]

You see it come down from the sky?

[Ty Schmidt]

No, there's no video of that happening.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay.

[Gumpy]

Did it just take off again or what? Did they go pick it up?

[Pat McAfee]

And then he said whatever the it was is now out of our airspace. Back to your regular schedule program. You are number 84 in line for takeoff. Go ahead and buckle up. We're in for a long one. And hopefully we don't see any more UFOs. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

No community notes. So again, I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, a lot of that coming out.

[Ty Schmidt]

There's a ton of stuff happening.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we want to shake their hands.

[Ty Schmidt]

What do I know?

[Pat McAfee]

And if they're in that little thing too, I'll go shake their little hand. What's up, you little thing? How you doing? My name is Pat.

[Tone Diggs]

These are boys seeing the A gap.

[Pat McAfee]

We're here to talk about your sports. Yeah, if we were to Oklahoma drill with you, we would murder you. Okay, what can you bring to us? And then what if they pop up some sport that's just amazing. It's like, oh, then we get a. Beat him at their game.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

And what happens if they can shape.

[Pat McAfee]

We bring it in. Tyler. We're bringing him back. And Tyler. Yeah, I gotta bring it. And he's gonna beat you at your own goddamn game.

[Tone Diggs]

Purple hoser twins.

[Pat McAfee]

Purple Hoser definitely needs to be there. He had good vibes. Tall guy was sweet.

[Ty Schmidt]

Twins too.

[Pat McAfee]

Twins need one of the twins was the one I want to donate.

[Darius Butler]

That's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

That was the least. That was the last thing I ever expected from.

[AJ Hawk]

Without a doubt from.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude. Perfect.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't want to miss it. Thank you. That's awesome. All right, let's get some of reactions. This one's from Josh Gilbert. Hashtag I don't ever react, but the Falcons are dead. Can't walk into a trap, much less protect their own. Kirk no chains has been abysmal the last few weeks. Ra not him. Morris looks lost at times. Boobirds were loud yesterday. Might be time for penix and new coaching in the atl. Holy. The only birds down in Atlanta are the boo birds. They said the Hawks, the Falcons, this team. That's what the fans are saying already. Four picks will get the boys buzzing. That'll get.

[AJ Hawk]

Yes, it will.

[Pat McAfee]

That'll get the boys buzzing. Especially with Pennick sitting there. I'm excited to see how raw. Not him.

[Tone Diggs]

I know that's not his name.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's messed up. Because that was the best game in defense. Defense played all year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's ra him. I think when it comes to certain things. You think they figure it out, the Falcons or you think they're on one way trip to poop time.

[Gumpy]

Oh no, I have to figure it out.

[Pat McAfee]

I like.

[Gumpy]

But if they don't like Penix in a game or two could be in there.

[Ty Schmidt]

They're still going to be in it.

[Darius Butler]

What are you struggling.

[Pat McAfee]

I know.

[Gumpy]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's what's crazy.

[Darius Butler]

Cousins are Baker.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Bill Belichick]

But Kirk back in Minnesota this weekend. They're not taking them out.

[Tone Diggs]

No makes deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Daniel Jones on the practice squad. We knew that.

[AJ Hawk]

But what they have to move him up here soon because otherwise someone else can claim him.

[Pat McAfee]

No, they don't have to move him up.

[Gumpy]

You can, you can sign someone active to your practice squad. Can I steal him if I want him active on my team?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He would just have to decide. Remember this. Just like the kicker from the Jets. Kicker from the jets on the practice squad. Chiefs offer him a job and they go. He could have stayed with the Jets. Instead he goes to Kansas. No doy. But like that's a. That's a decision. I think like practice squad is basically free agency, but you're on assigned to a team like you're in a building. So like him getting accustomed to the building and the offense and everything like that. But I'm interested if how many other offers were there and was there any active roster offers? Practice squad. It's a. A lot of vets have been doing his practice squad thing since COVID though. Remember they opened up the practice squad squad rules during COVID So now you got a lot of vets on practice squads around the league and it's almost like a tryout period for some guys too. Not Daniel Jones, obviously. He was just on a team, a starter a few weeks ago. Tom Brady was not happy about that.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, not at all.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you hear that age?

[Gumpy]

What happened?

[Pat McAfee]

Tom Brady was just like he went back to his time at Michigan when he wasn't playing. He was like, if they want me to be a practice squad safety, practice squad quarterback, I'll do whatever for my team team, you know, especially with how much the Giants have given Daniel Jones. He was talking about the amount of money.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Invested in him.

[Pat McAfee]

That invested in him. He said, I just want to done it that way. And obviously that blew up because it was like Tom Brady speaking about a situation that is very pertinent to the largest city in the United States of America in this whole thing. But that was a fascinating take from Tom. I did. I'm like, I didn't expect that from a former player to say that about a player currently. And I think we all kind of just were like, all right, Daniel Jones did a sign off. See you later. We're not going to do this entire thing. I was kind of like, I thought his apology was good. I thought his message was good. I think I thought he took accountability. And then the greatest of all time is like, yeah, they're giving this guy 160 million bucks and they don't want to play you because you're. And you're just like, get me out of here. I don't know. That was just fascinating.

[Darius Butler]

He's old school.

[Pat McAfee]

Old school. But then the way people frame. Frame it is. Raiders owner, Owner of team Tom Brady hates player requesting release. Like, that's how people can frame kind of everything. And that kind of takes on a life of its own. But nonetheless, I'm excited to see Penic Stoner. Yes.

[Ty Schmidt]

In how many years Kirk finishes the season?

[Gumpy]

Don't you still owe Kirko a lot of money?

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, Yeah, I think four years, 100 guaranteed.

[Pat McAfee]

I bet Kirk, if he was asked to be practice squad safety against Penix, he would.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Really?

[Gumpy]

He'd light people up. He'd light people up.

[Darius Butler]

I don't know about. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Throw his head around.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't think so?

[Darius Butler]

No, I don't think so.

[Pat McAfee]

You think? Zero chance.

[Tone Diggs]

He was. He didn't love the pick when it happened.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, well, he said he was surprised by the pick. Yeah, he said he didn't know what's happening. I don't think he said anything about not loving it.

[Darius Butler]

And that's kind of normal, you know, for a guy. I think they moved Daniel Jones, like, what, fourth on the depth chart after they benched him. So it's only so many bodies on the roster. So he was probably standing at free safety in a walkthrough or something, just like Baker. What was he dn. Yeah, Carolina. So, yeah, you know, Baker young, still trying to find his way in the league, get another opportunity. You're going to pretty much do anything that they ask you to do. That's probably what Tom felt about Daniel. He felt like, hey, you haven't done shit this whole time. You got paid, you know, keep earning your keep. But yeah, I get Tom's, you know, frame, and he's old school. He is in Michigan. He was whatever on the depth chart when he came to New England. I think he talks about all the time. He was fourth, fifth on a depth chart and kind of earned his way up. And you got to think, how long did it take Tom Brady to start making, you know, 15, 20, 25, however many million dollars at the position. So he was one of those quarterbacks that kind of took the league to a point where these guys can make 50, 60 million dollars a year. So definitely get it. But I don't think Kirk Cousins at this point is signing up for that right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And Daniel Jones, whenever he did it, I had no qualms with. I don't think any of us at all. Nope. I didn't even think about, like, this guy owes him. Not at all. But I appreciate that Tom Brady's like, you know, what about this? I have a. Anything he says is going to be like that whole angle of owner mad at play. It's like, oh, owner critiques refs, owner critiques game, owner critiques style owner. Like that. It does add a whole nother element now that he is part owner of that Raiders. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

And he can't do half of his, like, the broadcasting job because of it.

[Pat McAfee]

Wasn't there some report I might have been wrong? I'm not doing it again.

[Darius Butler]

We're more desensitized to it, too. We see it collegiate level high schools, people leave high, go to three or four different high schools. College, you go two, three different colleges. Like, so we see it so much now that we're kind of, I guess, used to players. Like, at some point, you know, you call your dad and tell him, hey, I'm fourth on the depth chart. I might get my dad. Probably hang up the phone, like, figure it out. You know, you went up to. You sounded leviticus.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. There's three people better than you, your own position.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. Figure it out.

[Pat McAfee]

At one school, there's three people already better than you think about the whole.

[Ty Schmidt]

Country probably sick of like, the New York media, too. It's like, hey, no matter what I do here, people are going to talk about it. Like, I can go to Minnesota where there's probably like five media people. You can just get the out of here.

[Pat McAfee]

He's not even on. I mean, he's practice squad right now. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Probably loving it.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, God. Kidding me. They're gonna cut his ass anyway.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

I could be the fourth string, you know, like practice squad, safety, or I can go be on a playoff team. Bye. Bye.

[Pat McAfee]

New York Vikings are number two team in the league with one score, win seven. Eerily similar to a couple years back with this Vikings.

[Bill Belichick]

I didn't like those Vikings fans booing yesterday.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Was it 23 6?

[Bill Belichick]

It's like. Okay, if I told you at the start of the year, you lose Kirk, your first round round pick quarterback blows his knee out and you're nine and two, what would you say?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, Gumps, that's a good perspective. But they start booing down there. Oh, yeah.

[Bill Belichick]

I was told I wouldn't get it because I'm not a Minnesotan.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I think they were actually trying to do that thing and then they were all going to do this, but it didn't get to the end of the. It just boom. They came back though. They did.

[Ty Schmidt]

They did.

[Pat McAfee]

How about that Vikings team, Cardinals team. Are we wondering now?

[Ty Schmidt]

No, they're still in it.

[Tone Diggs]

They're the Cardinals.

[Bill Belichick]

They're favored at home by two and a half against the Seahawks this week.

[Ty Schmidt]

What happened to that Vikings team that won all those one score games?

[Pat McAfee]

They lost to who?

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, Dan Jones and the Giants.

[AJ Hawk]

Maybe that's why they brought him back.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah, he doesn't exist anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

So who?

[Tone Diggs]

Dan Jones. He exists. But he's in their locker room. He can't defeat them anymore. Okay, so he's also the only quarterback nfc. He's the only NFC quarterback to beat Lamar Jackson too.

[Darius Butler]

So we're up until yesterday.

[Ty Schmidt]

Jaylen got it done.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Sa both of them. Coach Mooch told me that. He said, oh, what's that one that has been lost? Who's running back for the team? Saquon. That's our guy. Mooch went on a full PAO rant.

[Ty Schmidt]

Very sweet.

[Pat McAfee]

Those game day mornings were fun. Fun. Have no idea what's gonna happen in there. I have no idea how prepared they are for what I'm saying because I have zero interaction with any of them. All I get is an email with a link and then I email what I'm thinking and then that's about it. And I'll see you guys in there. And then it's just like, here we go. It is Kurt Warner's so handsome.

[Ty Schmidt]

Love Kurt on there.

[AJ Hawk]

How about that salt and pepper?

[Ty Schmidt]

It is good beer.

[Pat McAfee]

When he pops up on the screen, I almost stop what I'm doing every time and just be like, kurt. Wow, buddy.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he's aged well.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Bill Belichick]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys, two stepping, you and the wife. The whole thing.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And then every time I listen to it back and I'm like, God, I sound so terrible. There's an echo and the quality so low. But if I put on the AirPods, it cuts off they need to figure that out a little bit. I need that whole setup that AJ's got at his house, but there's no way gonna be smart enough to do that. I like that Game Day morning show. Rich was buzzing. Rich was floating.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

How could you not be beat?

[Pat McAfee]

Ohio State.

[Gumpy]

He's a Michigan man. I get it, Chef. He's pumped too. Also, if you ask Shefty, why he. Why he was telling stories about fornicating and sending out information.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah, It's a good call. I even asked him about breaking news and breaking backs at the same time. Let's call him.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, just load. Still stuck to him.

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean, he might be doing that right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we don't know.

[Ty Schmidt]

Wasn't stuck to him.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe.

[Tone Diggs]

Might have been.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe on his left.

[Gumpy]

The ceiling maybe, you know?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

V R. Super V. I don't love.

[Pat McAfee]

That nobody's answering cold.

[AJ Hawk]

What's going on?

[Pat McAfee]

Tv.

[Gumpy]

Let's call till we find someone to answer. All right, keep calling. Call somebody. Dano, maybe let's him and Tone go out.

[Pat McAfee]

He did text me, actually, Dan did text me. I think he has heard shifter. No answer.

[Ty Schmidt]

What Dan say? You better watch what you're saying.

[Pat McAfee]

He asked for an address, I assume to send a Christmas card, but it was at about the same time that we were talking about him.

[Ty Schmidt]

So I think it was a bomb to Tony's.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, sure, maybe. Speaking of bomb, how about that guy? Texas A and M picking up a live round.

[AJ Hawk]

Nuts, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Out of the cannon. I didn't know that happened. I saw that during a commercial break. I watched back. That guy's holding a live round. And all the. I know a cannonball doesn't come out of that thing, but there is a full on. Well, that guy loses on game day. I mean.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, he dies on national tv.

[Pat McAfee]

Threw it in a bucket of water.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I don't know what that does.

[Pat McAfee]

I was standing. Yeah. This guy just picks up a live. What the. You hear them all? Basically. Oh, my. That's insane. I don't know what's coming now. Right. I know. I don't know what the full protocol is. I did see some panic in some eyes, so I thought, oh, we're not gonna get one. And then Jimmy G's in my ear going, we're leaving, we're leaving, we're leaving. And then there's a full conversation about it being back. Oh, they got another one. And that's sort of. Oh, there's the beginning again. I thought we're gonna do that guy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Next to cannon turns around, like, it got so loud.

[Pat McAfee]

It was so loud when that thing goes off. But I did move a little bit more out of the way, this part.

[Ty Schmidt]

There you go.

[Pat McAfee]

There's not a lot of room over there. Cannon's pretty big, so I stand in the side. Yeah, I think it's loud.

[Gumpy]

I mean, I don't know if I would trust those people that are standing right in front of it.

[Pat McAfee]

I know. Yeah. It's facing a crowd, which I didn't know. Gun, Texas A&M. Good people down there. Cameron Ward at nine toes. Cam. Oh, no, I lost the toe, but he sold him nine toes. Done. Be where your toes be. Cameron said nine of them right here, Bob. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but Ravens won from best team in the league to an absolute joke. Tuck can't hit.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, Chat.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we're live. Oh, hey, did we ever get to the bottom of you having sex? And breaking news. You said you did that one time. Have you done that? Only once in your entire life?

[Adam Schefter]

I think I'm finished commenting on how many times I've gotten a story while I've been.

[Pat McAfee]

Smart idea. Hey, good luck. We love your wife. All right. We did talk about another woman. Yeah. Well, talk about this. Remember, he was like. My wife wasn't thrilled. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I heard him say, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you just. You forgot about that. All right, so we.

[Gumpy]

I did. I'm sorry. That's on me about what we talk.

[Ty Schmidt]

About on the show.

[Pat McAfee]

No, you don't talk. What's happening immediately. Let's get to another every. That was up. We did that to him. His wife's a great lady.

[Bill Belichick]

Why you say another woman?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I was interesting.

[Pat McAfee]

Because it wasn't his wife. He was. He was in, like, Wisconsin, he said, or something like that. Milwaukee or someplace. That's what he's saying. I don't want to be telling stories about other times. Well, you did.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's probably a fun night. At the bottom of the bed that night.

[Pat McAfee]

Bottom of the bed.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah. I mean, like, the. The thing. Whatever the hell it is.

[AJ Hawk]

Like a little chase at the end of the bed.

[Pat McAfee]

The extender.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

The bench.

[Darius Butler]

Sit.

[Bill Belichick]

Put your shoes.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know if he's in the same room. I still don't know if he's been back in the same room for that entire thing.

[Ty Schmidt]

Be back in the hallway.

[Pat McAfee]

But I like the fact that he's like, listen, this. This committed I am to the gig. And we appreciate you, chef.

[AJ Hawk]

Thank you, Shefty.

[Pat McAfee]

He's In a good suit. Oh, yeah, Great suit. Hashtag I don't ever react, but Ravens won from best team in the league to an absolute joke. Tuck can't hit the side of a cruise ship if it was sitting still. Wow. At what point do we just sign one of the randos who kicked on game day this year and Old Yeller. That son of a. Tucker. Oh, my God. Nine cos Cam said, get rid of this guy. How much of this was there?

[AJ Hawk]

That's all it is. You know, usually it's like, hey, fire Harbaugh. This guy fucking sucks. He's been here so long. We still can't win. Every single one this week was like, we can't keep going on with Tucker. We just can't do it. I understand. He's the goat. This guy stinks now.

[Pat McAfee]

Classic move. And they're in a bye week right now as he either figures it out, which I think and hope is obviously the outcome, but the IR thing is normally a move that would. That would fall into this world.

[Ty Schmidt]

Scapegoat everything.

[Pat McAfee]

So then you just punt it to the offseason.

[Tone Diggs]

Was there any talk of the black.

[Pat McAfee]

Magic you're talking about? Whenever Travis Kelce decided to move his kicking te.

[Tone Diggs]

He hasn't really been able to kick.

[Pat McAfee]

Since he messed with Taylor's boyfriend and Taylor's man's quarterback. Yeah, that is a. I mean, why would you even.

[Tone Diggs]

You know, you don't.

[Pat McAfee]

There's no reason.

[Tone Diggs]

Dark arts, my friend.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know about all that, but. But there's no reason to mess with the aura. Hey, he just walked. Travis just walked off. By the way. Travis would go on to have a great. Win another shoe.

[AJ Hawk]

He would.

[Pat McAfee]

Travis would go on to have a great off season. Traveling around the greatest show in any town. Of all the towns. Yep.

[Ty Schmidt]

Different countries.

[Pat McAfee]

He get a new contract. Be right back in it here. 11 and one. That's. That's one side of that situation. The other side. Where have we been?

[Ty Schmidt]

Worst year ever.

[Pat McAfee]

Was there any tweets about that? That's a good question, dude.

[AJ Hawk]

Maybe one or two, but not. Not really. It's mostly just like, hey, this guy sucks. He's going to ruin a great year.

[Pat McAfee]

From Lamar, Sage, Tuck. All the sage. All of it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Just do the whole energy reset.

[Pat McAfee]

I think that's what you do. Sage dance, right? It's all sage.

[Darius Butler]

Luasa.

[Pat McAfee]

What? I don't know if you're smoking sage or drinking sage.

[Darius Butler]

I don't think sage is enough, brother.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you think he needs a.

[Darius Butler]

He might need a full Reset.

[Pat McAfee]

Go down in a jungle, brother.

[AJ Hawk]

She just started, like, smoking cigs or something. Now we'll just do something he's never done before.

[Gumpy]

Yep.

[AJ Hawk]

Now we don't know smoking cigarettes.

[Pat McAfee]

We don't know if he is a chain smoker or cigs or not. True. I assume he's not right with that opera voice too.

[AJ Hawk]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm assuming he's not changed. Smoke.

[Ty Schmidt]

Maybe that's what he should do.

[AJ Hawk]

Buy a pack of Marlboro Lights.

[Tone Diggs]

Do you imagine he trots out on the field with a stick in his mouth?

[Ty Schmidt]

Like, he should start singing opera as he's kicking. They should mic him up, clear the br.

[Pat McAfee]

What if he. What if he stopped with the opera because we're trying to change things up here, you know, Rally cap. Flip that thing backwards and goes like rage. Screamo. Good.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Cool, Cool.

[Pat McAfee]

What if the next special we see about Justin Tucker singing, he's like, I hate, like, the whole opposite end of opera.

[AJ Hawk]

That's not a bad idea.

[Tone Diggs]

He's rolling, pinning his. His shins like any accountant.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that?

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Ben Affleck.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I hope he chooses to sing differently than that, but if that works in.

[Tone Diggs]

The account, he's just Ben Affleck.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, he's Ben Affleck.

[Tone Diggs]

He's on a comeback tour.

[Ty Schmidt]

Stud. That's. That's what he is, a stud.

[Gumpy]

What he doing?

[Pat McAfee]

He's.

[Tone Diggs]

He's just retrying.

[Ty Schmidt]

Let's just say the mojo. Juan Zoto's coming to Boston, I'll tell you that much. Now.

[Pat McAfee]

Why?

[Ty Schmidt]

Because Ben Affleck's slinging it again.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

Soto's gonna see that and be like, yep, I'm signing with the Red Sox.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's get to another. Let's get to another overreaction, shall we? He's from Brandon at Geek World. Love that. Hashtag. I don't ever react, but Nick Sirianni, this bald Italiano has done it again. Ain't no since he shaved his head. Ain't no since telling that Pip Squeak in the crowd, piped down, I know what I'm doing. That's Nick Siriano. Football, baby. Eagles to the bowl. Hashtag fly. Eagles, fly. Even on the road to victory.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And Sirianni's won a lot. AJ they asked if he was owed an apology last week on tv. I like that. I like what everybody's doing.

[Gumpy]

Do you think people, like. Let's say they have one loss coming up.

[Pat McAfee]

Nope.

[Gumpy]

People gonna. People jumping off the bandwagon.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep, yep.

[Ty Schmidt]

No doubt here.

[Gumpy]

It's a Week by week, day by day. Kind of for him, huh?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He's on an hour by hour contract, I think, with those fans over there. But that's Philadelphia football.

[Darius Butler]

Boys are rolling.

[Pat McAfee]

They are.

[Gumpy]

They look good, man. They look good.

[Pat McAfee]

They're so Saquon.

[AJ Hawk]

He's unbelievable.

[Tone Diggs]

Closer, I think, for their last five at home as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

They don't have to like get on a plane. There's that stat after their win last week.

[Tone Diggs]

Yeah. They're only away games at Washington, so.

[Pat McAfee]

The bald Italian gets the heat at home. Panthers, Steelers, commanders close. Cowboys, Giants. Four out of the last five are home.

[Ty Schmidt]

Man, they can still get the one seed. Just like Buffalo.

[Pat McAfee]

Very much so. Especially with the Detroit Lions being as hurt as they are. But then you look in that division, everybody's got to play other in there still. Lions, Packers, Vikings, all vying for it. They're all in there. Eagles. That schedule looks. We still got to play the Bills and Niners on top of that as well. Niners thing. Yeah. Well, the Niners look might be able.

[Tone Diggs]

To put it together.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bills will be a problem.

[AJ Hawk]

It's in. It's at home though, right?

[Ty Schmidt]

Also.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Also the Bills home because they did that whole entire. Can't play outside last year. We're going to four fields.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right.

[Ty Schmidt]

Home game in Detroit last year for.

[Pat McAfee]

Buffalo, number one overall seed. Will be fascinating. Who gets it like in the nfc.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

It's hard not to be like, Philly's gonna get it. Yeah. But mcdc has just won.

[Gumpy]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, it doesn't. They lose. Aiden Hutchinson. They lose. They lose it or they win. They lose. Anzalone. They win. They lose. Other. They win. They do this, they win. No, they had to have played or done all their trick plays. Nope. There's more trick plays. They got Penny Sew with the Rock about to throw that there five guys trying to tackle him. He doesn't go down. You're talking about. We need to put him in there like the fridge on goal line. Let's get that guy the rock more often. Just because this play didn't work doesn't mean we need to stop. Ben Johnson knows that.

[AJ Hawk]

Agreed.

[Pat McAfee]

Penny still looks so natural. He's about to throw this fucking thing and instead. Ah, ah, ah. And then the whole team goes. Team meeting on this guy's back. Never falls. Never falls, never false. Then just walks it away. It's like, what a beast. It's like more tricks. And I didn't hear what you said, Zito, because we're talking about a team that's potentially looking for home field advantage through the playoffs. We weren't talking about a team that's trying to figure out who's going to be running their home for the next yards there. Okay. All right. Nice. Nice. The pop was awesome, though. The fans were so generous. Yeah, I could. I could imagine. We didn't get the ball to pen anymore. Yeah, I agree.

[AJ Hawk]

Line them up in the slot. Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

Go tackle over. Over. That's right. Tackle way over. You know, run that little Georgia tech. Right. They ran a little bucket and like the seventh or eighth overtime. I don't care what. It was crazy. That game was awesome.

[Darius Butler]

Eight overtimes.

[Pat McAfee]

Eight. And there's people that hate to shoot out. There's people that don't like the shootout thing.

[Gumpy]

It's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

It's great.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's perfect.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so, too. And like, when the first team that goes doesn't score. Oh. It's like, oh, yeah. What is your best play? What is your absolute best play here to win this thing? And then when this second defense makes a stop, that has to feel amazing. But guess what? You're up right now. Yep. I loved it. I enjoyed the rapid fire shootout feel and I also appreciate it. And we're saying how much we like the rapid fire. Feels like they gave him a little bit of a break there, too. A little bit. Like after the fifth one, it started getting a little bit longer. 6 1. It started getting a little. Let's take a little breather here. A little bit. Let's get back in there. The amount of timeouts that Kirby was.

[Tone Diggs]

Calling, I was gonna say I didn't love that. So they get. They get one timeout per overtime.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But I think that rule was written whenever it was like the actual overtime.

[Tone Diggs]

That makes more sense.

[Pat McAfee]

And then now it's like every two point try you get a. Get one time out. It's. It was awesome. I watched that whole thing and it was. It was exhilarating. I also liked the way key you're talking about launching rivalry weekend. Key. Staring at that score or board for like, whatever, two minutes straight while there's celebration happening around him in Athens, Georgia. And then him and Kirby, the embrace they had because the they were saying about each other before then was pretty real sweet. And then Carson beck immediately in his interview was like, that team was very tough. That was one of the toughest teams we've ever. That was like the amount of love that was shown afterwards. It was like, that's. Yeah, that was. That was cinema. Yeah, that was in that game.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, the overtimes were sweet, but it was 27:13 with five minutes left, and, like, they just roared back. That was one of the better games I've seen. I feel like the whole entire year.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I appreciate college ball for showing up the way it has.

[Ty Schmidt]

That was Friday, too.

[Pat McAfee]

That was Friday night before all the tone. Yeah, it did it really. It was awesome. Great week at a college ball. Except for if you're in Columbus, Ohio. Tough weekend in Columbus.

[Ty Schmidt]

The worst.

[Tone Diggs]

Probably Ohio State fans didn't appreciate the game plan. AJ Is what I'm hearing a lot. They didn't love that, you know, all the wide receiver talent. They were just like, hey, let's run it up the middle against Michigan's best 2D tackles in the nation.

[Pat McAfee]

Son of a. Weekend.

[Tone Diggs]

So we can prove we're tough.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that real? People are mad about that? I don't know.

[Gumpy]

I don't know. I don't know if the weather played a huge role in throwing the ball.

[Ty Schmidt]

Or what that is exactly.

[Gumpy]

Well, we did seem like that is the strength of that Michigan defense is those interior D line. We've seen him in person. We know how great they are.

[Pat McAfee]

So 55, real deal, first rounder. They got real size up there, which. Then you start going. Indiana's wind doesn't look too bad against Michigan, does it?

[Bill Belichick]

Wick Martindale said he couldn't believe their game plan.

[Darius Butler]

Shot to don't trust the quarterback.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you guys have another quarterback to.

[Bill Belichick]

Start in the playoffs?

[Tone Diggs]

He's a psychopath.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he wears number 33.

[Pat McAfee]

That freshman from last year.

[Tone Diggs]

No, no, no, he's not.

[Gumpy]

Devin Brown came in on fourth down.

[Tone Diggs]

He's number one passer in the nation. Oh, no. He played for syracuse, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, McCord.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I didn't trust him either.

[Pat McAfee]

Big win. He's a dog. Dog.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's great celebration.

[Darius Butler]

McCain's great.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Everybody was kind of. I don't say everybody, but there was a lot of people in the college football world. They were like, miami's probably losing this one to Syracuse. And Gumpy had to hear him also say it. And Gumpy was like, every time. That's what Gumpy.

[Tone Diggs]

For a month.

[Bill Belichick]

This was a month they've been saying this.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude. A lot of college ball people looking at Gumpy going, it's all gonna end. Syracuse, last night, last game of the year. Gumpy goes, says who? You know, and then turns out McCord. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Great celebration by their coach, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Fran taking a shower, so. You're welcome. Dev.

[Ty Schmidt]

Got you in, baby. Sweet was pretty sweet.

[Pat McAfee]

It was let's go to another overreaction, shall we? This is from chief Chase. Okay. At Chief Cheese, you'd have a better chance of out pizza ing the hut than stopping these Buffalo Bills. Wow, wow, wow. And nobody out pizzas. The hut locked up the division before Thanksgiving dinner. Left my system in the postseason. Looks like dessert to me. Hashtag, I don't want to ever react, but amen, bro. Brother, we're with you. Let's go to the next one. Here's from Jay Clarkson. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact. 49ers need to be in a quarterback market for next season. Brock Purdy is not the answer. Would be a fool to give him a big contract. Oh, no. Yeah, I know. Sad. Is there a lot of that?

[AJ Hawk]

There's a decent amount of that.

[Pat McAfee]

It's.

[AJ Hawk]

It's kind of two handed. Between that and like, Shanahan stinks. This guy's a choker.

[Pat McAfee]

When.

[AJ Hawk]

When are we finally going to admit that and maybe move on?

[Pat McAfee]

Golly, Brock Purdy's catching heat. I guess.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, everybody can get it now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you lose games, man.

[Ty Schmidt]

What happened to the defense is my question.

[Pat McAfee]

Fred Warner heard you. That's what I was told by commentators.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hold D lines out. I get it. But the snowball, they're only running it.

[Darius Butler]

Packers just beat him up the week before.

[Bill Belichick]

It's the curse of Brandon Staley, my friends. Any team he's on stakes.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, he's there. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

He's on the coaching staff.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh yeah. Everybody's saying coach Salah is having fun here consulting for the packers, but he's taking a one way orb from the Manchester airport to San Francisco next year to be the Niners DC again. That's what a lot of people are starting to think. Who knows? Brandon Staley over there is interesting. That's the one addition. All right, last overreaction before we get out of here is from Drew Teske at Teske. Drew Teske's risky. Need to watch him. He's a little risky. Hashtag, I don't want to react, but the Minnesota Vikings are the Most slept on 10 and 2 team of all time. The only ghost slinging Sammy Darnold is seeing is the ghost of Lombardi. The only ghost slinging Sammy. Okay, so that should be a capitalist there. The only ghost slinging Sammy Darnold is seeing is the ghost of Lombardi. Vikings are going to the Super Bowl. Hashtag skull, Hashtag Vikings. Hashtag Super Bowl. That would be crazy. Drew Teske and shout to Kevin O'Connell being a fucking dog. We love what you're doing over there. We appreciate the hell out of everybody so much. I am on the Browns, plus six and a half. Darius is on the Browns plus six and a half. AJ has the Broncos minus six and a half. I have to win to tie him for yet another week against the spread. Hopefully, that'll be the case. Boys, it's been great seeing you. AJ Hope you had a fantastic week. We'll be back tomorrow. Aaron Rogers. Tuesday should be a good one.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hell, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Just turned 41, ladies and gentlemen. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Never forget it. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.