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PMS 2.0 1253 - MNF Recap, Alabama Head Coach Kalen DeBoer, Broncos LB Nik Bonitto, Aaron Rodgers, Shams Charania, The Miz, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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PMS 2.0 1253 - MNF Recap, Alabama Head Coach Kalen DeBoer, Broncos LB Nik Bonitto, Aaron Rodgers, Shams Charania, The Miz, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode. The Thunder do on this Aaron Rodgers. Tuesday, December 3, 2024 this program starts now. Football. It's wonderful. And week 13 ended with a Jameis Winston special on Monday Night Football. And we couldn't have expected that Tampa Bay Jameis would be back ever. But boy, we were pumped that he was. Now, if you were a Browns plus six and a half better, you certainly didn't love the way that game ended. But with how it was unfolding with him setting a franchise record for the Cleveland Browns and BAS yards in one night, also throwing two pick sixes, three total interceptions in the same evening, that's Jameis Winston football to a tee. He's electrifying. He is exciting. It's the same thing that could be said about iron Mike Chandler of the ufc. This guy is going to make sure that the fight is exciting. He's going to get punched in the face. He's going to make some mistakes. He might win. He's never going to tap out and stop. That's Jameis Winston. Yep. They're always going to be in it because in a flash, boom. 70 plus yard touchdown. In a flash, boom. He's throwing it to the other team. The other team's taking it the other way. Boom. Then he's making an incredible throw, an incredible decision. Then he's giving a hype up speech on the sideline. Then he's leading men to a massive comeback victory down in the fourth quarter, less than two minutes to go. This is Jameis Winston football. Here we go. And that could have went only two ways. He goes all the way down and they score and it's awesome. Or he throws a pick six the other way. Exactly. And the way this one went, pick six the other way. And now the Broncos cover. The Browns don't win, don't cover. And the Cleveland Browns experience for Jameis Winston, I do fear is going to end after this year. Now, with that being said, this Browns team's got to figure it out. Oh, yeah, they got to figure it out. Boy, this Broncos team, you guys should be pumped about where you're at with, with how much you have been leveraged against in the salary cap because the Russell Wilson deal, who by the way, he just threw for 414 yards for the Pittsburgh Steelers, only making 1 million bucks because you guys are paying the 43 million bucks out of your salary cap this year. And then there's another 40 some million coming out of it next year. But nonetheless, Sean Payton, Bo Nix, this defense that they have is awesome to watch. Even though they gave up a bunch of yards. So Jameis, they're opportunistic to make plays. We're going to be joined by Nick Benito today, obviously fresh off of pick six where he was running 19.88 miles per hour. Move in the first or in the second quarter. It is. It's a wonderful time for Denver Broncos fans in a very tough division. And congrats on a big win to wrap up week 13. That man will be joining us. He was striding out too. Wasn't even running his full speed. Could have topped out at 20 if he really wanted to, but that's Jameis Winston football. Nick Benito is having a hell of a year. Can't wait to chat with him. We'll also be joined by Coach DeBoer, head coach of the Alabama Crimson, Todd. He will be joining us obviously on the same day in which the College Football Playoff committee will be putting out their rankings this evening as we inch closer and closer to this 12 team playoff actually happening as we go into championship weekend, which will decide who gets the first round buys. That's it. That's the only thing this weekend decides, is who gets the first round buys of the Power four or the top four champions of their conferences ranked by the College Football Playoff committee. But how many teams right now are on the outside looking in? How many teams from each conference are on the inside of the playoff? No matter what happens this weekend, that's what we learned tonight. This is last week's bracket. And the more and more chatter is that there's going to be three SEC teams, two ACC teams, four Big Ten teams, one Big 12 team, and then one independent and then one Power Five group champion. But then conversations take place about what happens in games, rivalry games, how teams look, who knows what any of this is going to look like. And his Alabama team is certainly a team that's going to be making a case for like, hold on, we got wins over Georgia. We got wins over a lot of big teams. Yeah, we, Oklahoma, we shit the bed. Okay, sure. And Vandy, we did as well. And against Tennessee, we lost. But if you look at our wins, we got more top 10 wins than anybody else. That's even in this potential conversation. Then you look at Ole Miss, who's also in the sec. They're like two ACC teams are allowed to get. Let's go ahead and check how many they've kind of got in there. We're not going to have a fourth sec. Okay, so there is. Which is exactly what this has always been chaos. Yep. Let's go to one half of the hammer Cowboys. AP Tone obviously wrote a book on college football. He's published, he's an author. Thousands and thousands of books sold going into this college football season. So we appreciate you. You were just kind of given a side eye. Whenever I said there's probably going to be. Not probably, I don't have a vote. Perhaps the conversation is three SEC teams, two ACC teams, four big ten teams. You gave me a little side eye there. What's that all about? I did because, you know, I'm always monitoring the sports books and that 2 ACC, 3 SEC. If you look at sportsbooks, could be 4 SEC, 1 ACC. Basically Alabama has jumped to minus 200 to make the playoffs and those are sportsbooks. Is that only an ESPN bet though? Is that only an espn? Multiple sports books. All the sports books, actually. So there, I mean, there's a case, you know, where, you know, SMU wins and Bama jumps Miami and Miami doesn't get in. So that would be your SMU one accent and four SEC teams. So it's very likely or based on the sports books that Bama could be that fourth. Now Bama, fresh off a win in the Iron bowl, obviously against Auburn, can't wait to talk to Coach DeBoer and how he's been treating all this, you know, this chattering conversation we've been hearing. Lane Kiffin's been very active on social media, you know, making his case, which is, hey, that's why we love him. That's why we love him. I'll be excited to hear Caitlin's thought. First year, you know, at Alabama also. How's that been? Hey, you're the guy that you're replacing, they named the field that you're coaching on after him. Yeah. So how's it going? The fun. It is a good time. And coach Saban reminds all of us every single time we have dinner with him or whatever. 26 guys left Alabama after Saban retired because there's that two week period where it's like actual poaching season. Like, hey, if a coach retires or a coach leaves, I guess there's a two week period where any team is allowed to tamper. Any team is allowed to reach out and basically say like, hey, here we go, this is what we'd like to do. And when you're Alabama and you got five stars all the way through there, that place got. Everybody talks about downs in the center that go up to Ohio State and you know, guys, wide receivers that travel up there was a bond. Yeah. There's a bunch of people in there, I guess, that were like, coach. The way Coach Saban says, like that guy would have been. Yeah. Like, here it is. So he has yet to be able to put his whole program, I think, into Alabama program. But the legends like Jalen Milro sticking around for him and on defensive side, some of the pillars sticking around for him. How has it been, like kind of modeling the future with now and everything like that? He's friend of the program. I can't wait to talk to him. Cannot wait to talk to him. Yeah. And what has it been like down in the South? Yeah. You know, because I experienced on Saturdays, if I have to pick against a school's team, they are so mean. It's tough. They are so mean. These college football fans are mean. Different down there. They are talented at being mean, too. They put some words together that you didn't even know they could put together to say bad things about you. So whenever he loses the Vandy Paul, man, oh, man. Down there in Alabama, just think about Roll Tide Willie. What do you think about? You know, he's like, maybe the most positive and most entertaining Alabama fan I've seen ever, you know, And I think. But just think about the passion that he has. You know, he's not. They. They're. Think about a roll tie, Willie, in a negative way. Yeah. And then multiply that by a bunch. You lose the Vandy. Right on. And now you're coming back to coach and Saban. Fe. This is not how we do this whole thing. So how has Kalyn DeBoer done this one right here? Yeah. Grocery store. We're talking just in life, everything. How is it going? I'm excited to hear that from him, especially coming from Washington where it's just like, he's bulletproof. Walking around there, it's just like, wow, this is unbelievable. Look at us. We just. We win every single Saturday. If we don't, you know, okay, whatever. Like, we've never really been as good as we are now. And then you go and it's like, listen, you son of a bitch. I don't care that everyone left. I don't care that, you know, Saban's not here anymore. You better win 11 games this year, you better get in the playoff, and we better be in that national championship game. Vandy. Yeah, we're losing to Vandy. Talking about state in Indiana, you got coach. Exactly. You got Coach Saban saying, I. Every place in the SEC is tough to play, obviously excluding Van. So like that's how he feels. And he doesn't say that about anything. Like he is like the. So think about what Alabama fans feel like. Oh God. So then that team, they beat Georgia obviously. Massive. Holy shit. Number one in the country. This is a huge. And the way that game went, big early comeback. Have to answer. It's like, okay, his Alabama team is like kind of foolproof. Then you lose to Vandy at Vandy and that's when I'm excited to chit chat with them. Legit. Because our team still very much could make it. Yeah, they have a player that can take over any game on offense in Jalen Milroe. He's fastest guy on the field whenever he's on the field. So they have everything still in front of them if they are elected to be able to. And if they do, people are going to be so pissed. Oh yeah. So everywhere people gonna be pissed at Ole Miss. So that's SEC hate. People are gonna be. The whole ACC is gonna be pissed off. Miami, those fans, you, I mean you met them all, traveled all the way out to Berkeley, they're gonna be pissed. Then Big Ten fans are gonna be like, of course ESPN gets four SEC schools in even though they haven't. And then the Big 12, they might not even be in the top four ranked champions. So they might not even get a first round buy and they're still considered a P4 conference. So I mean there's. Everybody's gonna be pissed. Yep. That's college football and that's why we love it. All right, let's get back to last night's game. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Everything db, Good D, Bad D host. He's one of the, one of the best segments going right now. Strictly because you talk about shit that I don't think a lot of people understand last night. What is your big takeaway? Obviously a lot of points scored on the defenses, but what are your thoughts on the two Ds that took the field? Because these are two defenses that are highly regarded by I think like everybody in football. Oh yeah, absolutely. Coming into the game, especially this dinner. Denver defense, they've been great. Missing one of their corners with Riley Moss. He had Levi Wallace in there who gave up a ton of yards. And obviously the big story was Jerry Judy coming back home to him talking about it, him having a huge game. Most receiving yards against a former team ever with 235. But even when you bend and you give up all those yards, it's about making big time plays. On the football and not only making those plays, but getting them to the end zone. So Nick Benino, obviously he had a big one as a big man out there in space. It was like a quarters coverage. Him being patient, reading Jameis Winston, picking it off and then taking it back to the crib. You, you don't see that much from a big fella, especially a guy that's leading his team in sacks. You know, have 11 sacks this year, career high for him. And that team, that defense as a whole coming into this game was leading the entire NFL in sacks. And then Jaquan McMillan, one of their best nickelbacks, you know, one of the best nickelbacks in the league, has struggled a little bit at times, but had a big, big game last night. Had a bunch of breakups, I think four PBUs and then this huge pick six to pretty much sealed this game. So just wide awhile. You know what, Pat Sirtain is on the outside as well, so yeah, just phenomenal defensive effort when it comes throwing the ball. Are you expecting Cleveland Browns to throw the ball 58 times against this Denver Broncos defense? I mean, that's a tough front to run against. You know, Chubb couldn't really get going early and it is Jameis Whistle football. That's why I picked J. Yeah, but think about that. He's a backup, backup quarterback. Yeah, but. And they're like, yeah, there it is. We know they said Judy was obviously a big part of the game plan and Joku's always a good weapon. Elijah Moore, you know, he got off as well. And Jameis, I mean, you put the ball in his hands and he's going to make great things happen. And he's also going to make great things happen for the defense as well. That's Jameis Winston football. You said it earlier, 500 yards and this game, I mean, I expected kind of a snooze fest coming into it, but it got electric at one point. I think it was back to back plays. 70 yard touch, 70 plus yard touchdown pass from both these quarterback Bo Nicks, he had a good game as well. And then that defense made plays on the ball as well with Denzel Ward, you know, forcing one turnover with a big PBU to Greg Newsome and then having another interception down the field as well. So guys making plays on the ball as DBs, obviously, I love that. But these quarterbacks, I mean, I think both quarterbacks obviously gave their team a chance to win the game, but then it ended. Isn't it crazy? Isn't it crazy that Javis is Like, what was he offered, like, 2 million bucks or 4? Whatever the deal that was. Whatever. And he's what? He's cutting ribbons at, like, opening events. He's saying we about the Browns program. He's coming up with stuff, and then he becomes a starter. And I'm reading more stats here as it comes over. I think Pro Football Talk did the Winston is thrown 218 passes in five stars. Legend. So this guy got paid nothing. Okay. Remember, nobody wants. Yeah, but now Kevin Stevanski's got him in the building and he's playing, and they're like, james wins. It's here. That means one thing and one thing. Yeah, we got Chubb. Okay, but sit down. See, also. Yeah, we got Jameis Winston. So that's 43.6 attempts per game last night. He threw it 50 times. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, that's Jamie Winston. I think Judy is. Obviously had a huge game last night. I think I saw something. He's leading the league and receiving yards since Jamis became the starter. And going into last night's game, he was 30th in the league receive yards and jumped up to number five. So, I mean, look, you're gonna have opportunity. Anybody on the field. I know why. Anybody on the field when Jamie Swizz is playing quarterback has an opportunity to catch the ball. Yes, they do. D lineman, DBs, wide receivers, tight ends, running back, everybody. And once again, that's why we love it. And it is all it is. I mean, and then the speeches. You got speeches literally from before the game even starts. Oh, he had a post game also. Unbelievable. Which one you talking about? Come on, Jesus, please. Pick six is enough. Have I not thrown enough? Here's Jamerris talking about his pick six situations. I know I'm better than this. I know. I'm just praying for the Lord to deliver me from pick sixes. So the reason why that is so fantastic is because obviously, you know, that is something that's prayable, I guess. Exactly. And I'll tell you what, the DB's on the other side are praying that they continue to get them. So we'll be excited to see whose prayers are better and if somebody has to shape the words. And that's how Jesus decides who he's going with. I think James will win that because, boy, whenever he's in front of a microphone, it is must watch. Whenever he's on a football field, it's must watch. Good news. We have an exclusive trailer. What Jameis Winston's going to be a part of. Yes. In that Cleveland Browns organization, what Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and that Cincinnati Bengals organization is going to be a part of. What John Harbaugh, Lamar Jackson and that Baltimore Ravens associate, our organization is going to be a part of. And then Mike Tomlin, Russell Wilson and Pittsburgh Steelers organization is going to be part of. Wow. Ladies and gentlemen, tonight, 9:00pm Eastern on MOX, formerly HBO. MOX, of course, now just mocks MOX, formerly HBO Go, formerly just HBO. Yeah, just HBO before. Yeah, just. And just. Was. Was that. Nope. Don't have to get into it. Okay. I think. I think it was. So now it's just. We're just mocked. Okay? It is mocks. And we apologize to the mocks people. We are very thankful that we get an opportunity to debut. We're trying to make sure everybody's caught up, just so we know, because it is going to be. Must watch. Ladies and gentlemen, an exclusive piece from Tonight's Hard Knocks AFC north in season, debuting 9pm Eastern on Mosque. All right. Good afternoon, guys. Welcome back. Hope everybody's refreshed. All right. Morning, guys. Good morning, guys. Good morning. Good morning, man. We got a great day planned for you today. I'm gonna outline what we're gonna do and why. Man, let's get out of business, all right? We're gonna go here. We're gonna really roll, okay? Because, hey, we got. We gotta go, all right? We got a short week. We got a lot to do. Let's zoom out. Okay? Let's zoom out. Who wants to be in the playoffs? Raise your hand. Guess what? You're in the playoffs. Look at that pool. Look at it. We're a half game behind in the division. We know what's in front of us. Five regular season, okay? Our division. Here, here, here. Good AFC team. Good AFC team. You want to be in the playoffs? Congratulations. You made it to the playoffs. We got to run over and through this group, particularly as this road gets narrower and we determine who is elite and who is. We got to play our best football in December, okay? We always say that going in the season because these games are going to come down to anyone in this room making any play in any phase as such, our preparation has to be on. All right? How we gonna. Wanna know? Stay focused. Wanna know? Mindset. Wanna know Mindset in our football. Wanna know? Good meeting. Wanna know? Good. Take a good note. Wanna know. Make sure I got this defense down. I'm talking football, man. This is my game. I'm playing, I'm showing, I'm helping. I'm doing my part. I'M playing ball because I'm a great player. How do I do my part? Creating turnover sacks being the turning point in the game, to me, man, a lot of it boils down to this right here. Where are you mentally in terms of the things that it is you need to do to secure victory? Your approach to business on a day to day basis, are you thriving or surviving when it gets difficult in practice or in game? Do you thrive or survive when things get tough? In a long season that is designed to weed out the not real contenders, Embrace it. Notorious warriors win first and then go to battle. You gotta put yourself in that position in meeting practice. If this play comes down to me, in that moment, am I ready to go? Am I prepared to take advantage? You got your head buried in the sand. If you don't think there's tangible reasons why these things happen. And if you lack it in that middle toughness area, if you are a survivor, then your ass better grow and grow quickly. And so that's what I'm talking about when I'm talking about back to business, because our business is winning. That's a cold bar to end that thing. I can't wait to watch. You know, the off season with the New York Giants was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. We got to see things that we didn't think we should be able to see. It feels like with this opening shot, Hard Knocks might be back to their fastball. Hard Knocks might be back to saying, hey, every team's social media account has content. Every team's digital team has an ability to display what happens in the building. We used to be the only place you used to be able to do that. Hard Knocks on HBO was the only place you get a chance to see what's happening behind the curtain in these NFL buildings. Now with social media, digital media, you're seeing a lot more. So Hard Knocks, I think, just kind of became a part of the content. But then the big ass brains over there said, hey, we gotta pivot. Then the off season one happened with the Giants and it was like, hold the phone, are they real? There's good shit coming out of this because no social media team's gonna put that out. Then with this one, it sounds like we are in it. Oh, yeah, we are absolutely in it. We did reach out to ask them some questions. And you have to remember, with Hard Knocks, the team is obviously, NFL Films is vast. It is a big thing. It is a. It is literally the 33rd team in the NFL. They've been producing and creating the NFL product into what it is today since the very beginning. And remember Steve Sable senior, his voice and his shots are the things that have basically made the NFL become what the NFL. NFL Films has a lot of power. Mm. A lot of power. They are the governing body of how the NFL is to be received by people. We have great relationship with the NFL Films people. They work their asses off. Now someone say maybe they're stretch too thin. Sure. Yeah, sure. Because everything the NFL is involved in the NFL Films is obviously a part of, because, hey, this is our league. We better make sure this is to the standard in which we have. Which is very high. And if you have NFL Films on it, it's like fucking Scorsese's on this thing with the level of shit that they're. It is very, very high level. They're still finishing the edit of tonight's show, like, right now, like, it is still very much happening. So when I got a chance to reach out and talk to him this morning, I'm like, how are you guys going to do this? What's it going to be about? How long have you been filming Recent filming? They did not start filming at, like, the beginning of the season. So it is going to be all very recent. There's been a lot of rivalry games that have happened in this AFC north, and I think what you're going to learn about through a lot of the conversation is, like, how these cities feel about each other and how the AFC North. Tomlin has said it, and I can't wait to hear more. Tomlin Isms. Yes. And I'm excited to watch another hardball coach. Right. The way that. Go, Stefanski. Interesting go, but have to get to board whenever, you know, you only got three wins and everything like that. Zach Taylor. Fascinating. But, like, whenever Tomlin says, you know, like, everything is going to be about, like, winning, I think they're going to try to showcase that the city feels that way, too. Like Pittsburgh feels that way. I think they're going to try to showcase that Baltimore feels that way. I think they're going to try to showcase, like, the happiness of these cities depend upon these teams. And whenever Tomlin says the AFC north is the kitchen and it's hot in the kitchen, I think they're going to try to showcase that. Like, hey, they do feel different. Just like people in the SEC feel about SEC football, like AFC north towns, and I'm not saying they're the only division in football that are like this, but AFC north towns, the happiness of the cities depends upon the NFL team and I think that is going to be one of the acting parts of this particular Hard Knock. So I think we have a chance to experience things that are a little bit different. I think we're going to get inside glimpses of shit that we haven't been able to see before and teams would never put out. And I also think we're going to get a chance to really ride alongside some teams that have a chance to go on a run. And the in season ones haven't been great because the teams haven't gone on runs. Two of these teams we think for sure have a chance to go on real runs. One of those teams has maybe another MVP in it. The storylines of Russell Wilson only get paid 1 million. Justin Fields with the way they've been handling that, what's going on with Lamar, where they're at, Derek, it's like the storylines. I think it's going to be a good season. I think it's going to be a good season of Hard Knocks. I can't wait. I've never had a team in Hard Knocks and Hard Knocks has been awesome and I just watching that, I can't wait to watch some behind the scenes of the Steelers. But the Steelers, the only, the only AFC north games that are done. Baltimore's played Cincy twice. The rest of them still have to happen. And then you know, the Steelers have to play the Eagles and KC on Christmas Day. Baltimore still got the Texans and a potential division like deciding game versus Steelers. It's all going to be, it's all going to be awesome. And then like the teams like the Browns and the Bengals, like Zach Taylor and Stefanski, like what happens with them? Like how do they finish out their seasons? I mean the Bengals still aren't mathematically eliminated. It's going to be tough, but they're still eye tests. I say yeah, for sure. I don't know. You hear what you said about the defense yesterday, Tony? Yeah. What was that stat? 33 plus points for teams have scored that. They're like one and three. Everybody else is 53. Something like that. It's like the Bengals, you're going to have to experience it. We're going to watch that, you know, and there's two teams on every team. Offensive defense for sure. And then obviously the special teams phase as well, which is, which is very important. I'm interested to see how Baltimore handles that. What's going on with Justin Tucker. But you mentioned it. You got two teams who we expect to be contenders down the stretch. The Bengals kind of there and then The Browns, you know, still trying to figure out a lot of things there. So we get to see the behind the scenes of all those different, different things in this division. And I think it's for good, good head coaches too. I think it's for good head coaches showing their good head coaches in this league. And you saw even in that clip like how similar these team meetings go and how similar and how like repetitive it is to even as players. Like we've been in a thousand of these meetings and you know, you know, if you're three and seven or three and eight at some point in the season, it can get, it can get ugly. And it's really on that coach to kind of get the guys going. Whatever it takes, whatever message, the team, the leadership within those rooms. So I'm interested to see how the rest of the season continues to unfold. But yeah, been in those meetings, watching those coaches and how they motivate like Harbaugh, Tomlin. They've been in those places forever. So you have those, those OGs that been in those meet rooms, hearing Tomlin pretty much preach the Same message for 10, 12 years. And now we get to kind of see it all unfold as this division, we know what this division is as a football fan unfold week in and week out. It's going to be pretty dope. Yeah. Congrats to Hard Knock. Seemingly getting another banger. Smart congrats to NFL Films. We're excited to watch tonight. And joining now is a head coach who has got his team in a spot where they could be selected for the 12 team college football Playoff. Hell yeah. Now there's other teams obviously that are jockeying for position, but he is hoping that what his team has put on film and put on the books is enough to get them into the dance. Once you get into the dance, who knows? Ladies and gentlemen, first year head coach at Alabama. Roll Tide Roll. Ladies and gentlemen, calendar coach. How are you? I'm good. It's good to see you again. It's been a few weeks. Yeah, it's good to see you as well. You look good. You've been fit. We've been working out, not eating. What's going on? You look very. You look fit right now. I appreciate that. That's. That's. That's a comment I guess I'll take right now. So I appreciate that. Absolutely. We were just talking about hard knocks and the way Hard Knocks, they gave us an exclusive trailer and it's basically all four coaches handling a team meeting. And their message is all basically the same gotta win every day. Gotta win this week. We can't think ahead. Do you watch other coaches? Do you talk to other coaches? And how do you come up with your messaging to the team each week? Yeah, I mean, I take what's within because I think the people within are really good on our staff and they know exactly what we're going through. But I think there are people that you can go to here in and there, maybe people that understand you have had the experiences that you can go to, you know, regularly and get some ideas on just how to approach maybe that week. And that's the beautiful thing about the coaching profession. There is a, you know, kind of fraternity of guys that, you know, you can really count on. Yeah. And your messaging obviously matters, and being able to deliver it in ways that your team doesn't get board is obviously a big part of coaching and mindset and framing. Let's talk about this year for you at Alabama. How's it been? Kind of, I don't want to say separating yourself from Coach Saban, but taking a team that was already very successful, obviously legend goat is retiring and leaving now. We're at the end of this season. You just get your first, hey, Iron bowl win. Big, big win. Big win over Auburn at home. Big win over Georgia. A big win over Georgia. Other wins now, a couple losses, obviously. How has this season gone, you think, from your perspective of leading the Alabama football team? Well, I think the whole year has been segmented, Right. There's the craziness of everything happening back in the winter months, and then you work to the point where you get in the fall, and that's where you really, I mean, that's when the bullets are flying, right? And you really find out, you know, who you are, whether it's myself and how to relate to the team or them figuring out who I am and our staff as well. But, you know, you go through those adverse moments, you go through those good times as well, and your response is, you know, what you can control. And so I'm really proud of the resiliency our team has. I think it shows up in games throughout the course of the game, but I think it showed up, you know, over the season and how we come back each and every week. And, you know, I get to see it on the football field and practice every day. And I just couldn't be more proud of the way these guys continue to show their love for the game, the pride they have in the program, the standard that we have set as far as the work being the Work and how that, you know, translates to, you know, game day and the success we have there. You got some special talent, obviously, on that team, and Coach Saban has mentioned it a few times about the amount of guys that left after he retired and what the roster looked like whenever you got there. And then obviously the amount of time you have with transfer portal recruiting and trying to keep your own guys. How do you feel about, I don't want to say your culture being created, but, like, your imprint on these guys and like, your messaging, the way you view things. Do you feel like you guys are all speaking the same language now? Because obviously, anytime humans interact, there's a grace period. But when did you know, maybe this year that you guys were all on the same page, or is that thing still happening? I think it continues to happen, but I think the response after a couple losses is when you really kind of start to understand and when you have the success after those losses and you're able to dial in on what you really wanted, the message, and continue to have the message be. And that's focusing on only what lies ahead, learning from the past and just, you know, understanding what those character traits were, what the work is that, you know, really gets you. The wins, the success which comes, you know, results and wins on Saturday. So, yeah, I mean, the roster and just all of that, that was certainly, again, part of the transition. And that's. I mean, Coach Saban did a great job recruiting guys here, but, you know, in January, there was a lot of turnover and us, you know, filling in the gaps with guys that were coming up through the program and, you know, the youth on our team, getting these opportunities early in the season, I think really paid off here for us at the end with the depth, even with a couple injuries like everyone has, and us being able to play really good football. And now we're probably here this last last week, going in the future, probably as healthy as we've been at any point throughout the season, you know, with the exception of a couple guys that you've lost. But that depth has been really critical for our young guys. It's a good time to be healthy, you know, but how do you talk to the team about everything that goes on? Obviously, you've been around college ball a long time, all different levels. You know, at the lower levels, actually, there seemingly is a better way to deem a champion than there is up here, you know, with the way the tournament is. And then now with the amount of conversation that's going to take place and what is your. What do you tell the team and how do you kind of internalize all of it? Because obviously deeming it a successful season for you, like first year there, you make the playoffs, that is a first year. He does that. But that is kind of out of your hands now, obviously, because of things that your team did. But how do you kind of handle that all? Yeah, I mean, I think we've got a. We've gotten to the point now, again, kind of going with the culture and everything you were talking about. It's gotten to the point where we can be really upfront and straightforward. And you know, I expressed to them that, hey, there's a, there's a committee that's got some tough decisions and we all get that there's so many great teams in college football, but I know from within, you know, we're speaking, you know, in terms of, you know, that we're one of the best 12 teams the way we see it. And that's not egotistical, that's not an arrogant, that's not the way I'm talking. But we understand who we are, you know, and that we have to be ready. So this week it's about, you know, the workouts, it's about, you know, taking care of the things that are away from football to make sure there's no distractions when we get our opportunity and, you know, just, you know, kind of reflect, refract, deflecting on our strengths, you know, and who we are, you know, offensively, defensively, special teams and, you know, just continuing to breathe confidence into these guys and reminding us how far we've come. So that when we get to that point and we were back on the field preparing for, you know, hopefully another team and a playoff opportunity, you know, we continue to hit the ground, run and take off from where we were here this last weekend against Auburn. Hell yeah. Love to hear it. I assume the boys are ready to go, especially if they get the opportunity. You don't want to look at this or know this, but Sportsbook's got you guys at like favorable odds to make the playoffs, so congratulations. I don't know what they know. I don't know what they know, but it sounds like the work is on purpose. You know, there's. There's a reason for everything they're doing. Last question from me before the boys have questions for you. And I can't thank you enough for taking time out of your day to chit chat with us here. What's it been like first year as a head coach in the sec? Because I got dropped into the college football world. Okay, baptized. Boom with college game day. And we're making picks at the end of every show. So I'm going to piss off at least 10 fan bases. Just piss them off. And with the way I do stuff, every once in a while, I'll start, you know, start really rattling some reasoning off on why I feel a certain way for entertainment purposes, for the program. But also, hey, this is how I got to my decision here. And, boy, I learned quickly. Like some of those people down there in the south, it's Jesus Christ. And that school right there, you know, and it's like, if you say anything bad about either of them, you're going to get it. And it's. I couldn't imagine, you know, you're west coast, obviously come from the west coast, and Dakota and Indiana, you were there. But whenever being the Alabama head coach and let's say Vandy happens or, you know, Tennessee or Oklahoma happens. How loud. How do you avoid it? Do, like, what has it been like being a head coach at Alabama? Yeah, I mean, it's a challenge that, you know, that I was excited about. You know, you go through your career and again, there's always new things that you deal with. I don't care what part of the country, what league, it doesn't matter. But, you know, the SEC has just been. It's a grind every single week. You know, just. That's what you sign up for when you come here, and that's what I tell our guys. And, you know, you embrace the challenge, you embrace the competition and everything that comes with it. But, you know, that's, I think, part of what prepares you for a postseason, especially a postseason run that includes now, you know, up to four games for teams. And I think that stacking those games and going through a season, season like you have to that grind, I think, you know, only. Only gives you, you know, what you need. You know, from a resiliency standpoint, I mean, toughness, you know, the physicality from week to week, being able to come back after one week and do it again the next week. I mean, that's what this, you know, league's all about. But I think we have all those character traits that you need as a team. I mean, we have the explosiveness, we have the. We have the physicality. You know, we're very balanced as a football team. When I see championship teams and I've just, you know, a year ago saw what that looked like, I think about what's inside and who you are as a team and also what you. What you have as far as, you know, athletes on the football field and what that looks like, you know, in all the different phases. And, you know, we have some strong strengths in a quarterback that is good as anyone in the country. He's elite, and anytime he's got the ball in his hands, you. You got a chance to hit a home run, you know, both with his legs and his arm. And so up front, offensive line, defensive line, you know, I think again, we're. We're what you're looking for when it comes to the playing at that championship level. And that's why, you know, I said what I said, where I feel like we're one of those teams that is, you know, for sure, good enough to be into the final 12. That's a hell of a pitch right there. That was a hell of a pitch. Which leads to Connor's question for you, actually. And I want to let you know what you said there about J. Lo. I couldn't echo any louder. Like, when he's on the field every time he has a ball, it's like there's only been a few of those guys throughout, you know, football that have happened. And he's electrifying. Been running it a little bit. You know, hey, let's go ahead and let that thing go. Still running it. He's watch. Still running. Boom. That's right. Connor has a question for you, though. Yeah, Coach, with that being said, have you started to, you know, compare your team to, you know, other teams? As far as resumes go, is that something that someone's doing for you and bringing you sheets of paper like, it seems Lane Kiffin has got going on at Ole Miss because he actually tweeted a full comparison between, you know, Alabama, yourself, and Ole Miss. I mean, I think, you know, us knowing who we are and just kind of talking about that here like we are right now, I think that's really all about. And it's easy for me because I'm excited about who we are as a football team, who we've become. And so I think that's really the. The biggest. The biggest piece of it. You know, we understand the games that we've played and the number of ranked teams we've beat. And I think, you know, just talking about that has been kind of the focus. I guess that's, you know, kind of what other. What other programs would probably be doing too. So. But you know, that again, the number of ranked teams throughout the year, who we are, you know, and the strengths we have, offensively defensively, special teams, that's kind of what I'm focused on. I love that this is a part of college ball. You know, like Lane Kiffin's tweeting it. You're laying out like, hey, let's not forget it's a campaign. Let's not forget real quick. And then I'm getting texts from people from South Carolina. They're like, excuse me, mayor of Cocktown, what are we even talking about? Look at what we have been through. And if LSU doesn't get a penalty for a late hit on a pick six, we beat lsu. This is like a full on and this is the world. Hey, you're in it. Hey, congratulations. Congratulations. Now, I don't know who's going to get, I don't know who's going to get in, obviously the committee. I don't even think many, each individual member knows who's going to get in there before conversation. But there is a setup in that first round for something special to happen in college ball. Yeah, Coach, we've been talking a lot about how we think that, you know, some of the conference champions or whoever, the higher ranked teams, let's say in the Big Ten and the lower ranked team in the sec, that SEC school should have to go play a home game in the elements and vice versa. You know, the number two ranked Big Ten team team should have to go down to the SEC and play down there. Is there any way you can prepare for a scenario like that? Because like Pat mentioned, you know, let's not, you know, put the card ahead of the horse here, but there is a good chance you guys get in and if you do get in, there's a good chance you're going to be playing on the road in, you know, an area where there's, it's very cold and there are conditions and stuff like that. And obviously you coming from South Dakota and being in Washington and Indiana, like you're no stranger to that. But, but is that something you can prepare for or talk to your team about as this process kind of rolls on? Yeah, I mean, I, that's something I, I mean, I certainly have an appreciation for the question you're asking and, and understand it, you know, totally just, you know, going to different parts of the country at this time of the year and all that. But again, I, I think about like what our team is, is built for and the physicality, the ability to run the football. I think about a defense that, that forces a lot of turnovers. I think we're, I know we're number One in the league and number two overall in the country. Our turnover margins are right at the top. So the keys to football that exists at this time of the year. And again, I know it's a different level and all that, but, you know, the championship and the playoffs and things that I know I was a part of in the northern part of the country, these things that we have in our team, as far as qualities, they translate over to, again, what a championship team looks, looks and feels like and what you need to go through multiple rounds to get to where you want to be at the end. Do you guys have enough heaters and stuff down there though, to take with you? Uh, oh, you know, yeah, I mean, yeah, I don't. We'll figure that out. I hope we get to figure that out. Yeah. Amen. Obviously got to get to the opportunity, but I think that's one of the beautiful things about this 12 team playoff. We actually hope it extends another week so that the champions get a chance to have home field advantage as well. Because watching a Big Ten school go down to the SEC in one of those environments is going to be awesome. Yeah. And then watching an SEC team potentially have to play in a snow globe, come on, like that is going to be awesome. But to your point about the way your team is built, you think about a snow globe, what do you think about. You think about being able to power rock. You got a guy under center or a shotgun that can do as such. Which leads to AP Tone's question. Yeah, Coach, it's been talked about a couple times in this conversation about Jalen and his just explosiveness. Explosiveness and him running the football. And there was, you know, there was rumors of him being banged up potentially during some of the losses at. In the middle of the year. You talked about how healthy you guys are. Now if you do get in, do get in, and it's a four game run. How have you balanced running Milro versus protecting him and, and keeping him healthy? Because obviously when he's healthy and he's at his top, you guys are at your best. Yeah. And that, yeah, again, great question and I, I think that this time that we're going through right now only continues to help. And you know, you saw, you've seen times when there is a little break or, or, you know, he kind of gets over that hump and, and is, is fresh again. You know, this last weekend was a great example of just, you know, the way he looked. And that's, you know, I think the case when you have more than a Week to prepare like we would have for most of the weeks throughout the playoffs. And you know, that's the. That's the great thing about the way it's set up is it's not. Maybe not just exactly seven days and every day after seven. I mean, it just, it helps the guys in their recovery. It obviously, you know, it is impactful and your chance and to game plan and get ready as a team, you know, so all that, all of that matters. And like you said, when Jalen is fresh, I mean there's really no one, no one like him, you know, at the quarterback. Quarterback position in the country. You talk about that time off, is it either rest or rust? You know, people wonder. Speaking of Russ, let's go to the iron D. Bot has a question for you. Yeah, the iron bow. This was rivalry week. Obviously we saw a lot of. A ton of upsets and this is obviously the biggest one. What was your experience like? Obviously you had to get a big win to give yourself a chance to make it to this 12 team playoff. What was your first experience like in that iron boat? Well, I mean, it's all about the ending, right? And you know, getting the win was what it was all about. And you know, I guess I couldn't have been more proud. And it goes back to just being able to flip the script and how important it is whether it's within the game, but especially that week on Tuesday and the mindset and the way these guys love the game and understand that, you know, people are going to talk and do everything, but what you can control is your mindset, your attitude and the energy that we bring onto the football field. And they have had just a great demeanor about him and that led to the success we had on Saturday. It was an awesome environment. Just happy for our fan base, happy for our guys that everyone was rewarded with a win and was under the whole idea that you really needed it. So there was some added pressure and I thought our guys came through just a great way all around. First year head coach, Iron bull at home. You got. You had to win that one, coach. You had to. I know every play is in of itself. I'm happy you won it. You had to win it. You did. Your team responded every single time they've had a little bit of adversity, they've obviously been able to bounce back. I'm pulling for you. Good luck. And keep crushing it down there in beautiful Tuscaloosa. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah. Every week's its own week and so that's. That's the way we approached it. But thanks for having me on and it's always a pleasure. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach at Alabama, Kalen DeBoer. Yeah, Coach. That was awesome. Yeah. I asked him about life in the sec, you know, and he turned it into a pitch for his team. You know, I think we're the most balanced team. That's where that answer came from. Pitch season. It dude. Legit. Yeah. They are campaigning like, Lane Kiffin's doing that. Yeah. On X. He is just laying out. Hey, this is just a matter of fact. Okay. I'm just letting you know that this is what our team is. Stats just, hey, this is number one or number two in the country and takeaways. Does that matter? I don't. Maybe not. I don't know. Super balance. And then immediately everybody goes, what happened against Oklahoma then? No, there's no. You just. And then who'd Oklahoma beat? So you lost to a team like that. That's what it is. It is every single over and over. And then now we're adding in a different conference. It's like, well, smu, they beat byu. So you're saying they lose in a championship. It's the first game that they've lost since losing to BYU, who was top 14, I think at the time. So now they lose another game in the championship, which worst press reward they don't get. Okay. So they don't get in now because of a team that. And it just. It just goes like this, never ending. It's phenomenal what they've created down there. Can never get in, right? Nope. No. No way. But theoretically, can never get it wrong either, you know, because there's no right answer. Yeah. So in their eyes, they walk out of there. We did it. Yep. And then there's a million people that say you didn't. And then all the people that agree with them are the schools that got in and they're just like, yeah, good job in there. And then let's go to work. It is a wild thing. And once again, we can't say it loud enough. Thank God we are not on the committee. Thank the heavens we don't have to make this decision. Boy. Because once you start comparing 4th SEC school versus 2nd ACC school, now, obviously on paper, when you think about the amount of five stars coming out of high school and like size, speed projection, NFL careers, you start doing stuff like that, obviously you're going to lean towards one particular roster over another. But with this college football season, like that doesn't. That hasn't been been the way games have gone. So how are you supposed to do it? Well, just from watching film, this is what I think. Well then that's just 13 people's thinks, not everybody else. And like who were the in the head of it is Michigan's athletic director. They just came off a massive one with Ohio State. Ohio State would be probably either the third or fourth team from the Big Ten in now. Even though they've beat the second and third team in Penn State and ind. I mean it's just like it is a never ending dog chase tail type situation. And they talk about how like common opponent is so important but then it, with how much parody there has been, it just goes back to that. Like anytime you see in like the NFL, you start with like the worst team in the NFL and it's like well they beat them, but that team beat them. And then you end up getting down to the best team in the NFL and it's like well if so facto you look at all that, it's like we're really better than the best team because you know, it's like the Raiders, Baltimore. Yeah, exactly. Like you can do that. It never ends. Football this year. It never ends. Yeah, imagine if it was four, like of all the years for it to be 12, thank God it's this year because if it was only four this year, like the amount of teams Georgia could win the SEC and not get it. Now who gets in is a big conversation. But that first round, if all those games ended up being. Yeah, massive blowouts. Which is very. Which is very. If, if that happens. I'm not saying it's going to happen, but it could happen. They'll get at least one. Yeah, I agree. I hope. But going into next year the conversation's vastly. Remember what happened last. Are we going to do what we did last year? We're going to let. Okay, so when a team proves us that they'll lose games, then we let them in because they got a lot of talent and then they lose again. Are we going to do that? Or if a team loses and then like a three loss team gets in and then they just steamroll and then the conversation next year is like, yeah, look at the rosters, that's what you need. And then, but then there'll be somebody that says well what about two weeks, weeks ago and what happened? It's just, I don't know how this is what it is but the only way to fix it I guess is a full 60, 14. Yeah, March. That's what they want. Quick fix Is you go to 16. If you make your. If you're powerful and you make the conference championship, you're in. They quit doing. Don't do the top four like they're doing this year. Like where Boise. And do the actual highest. Yeah, yeah. Do the actual highest four. And then obviously the first and second round. Definitely home. If you want to go to Sam to that. Make that recede after the first round. Nah, I don't think you need. Oh, interesting. I mean, I would like that thing. Does the NFL recede after. I mean. No. I mean, we're not. It's not NFL yet. No. It's getting close. What they do. Because doesn't NFL high seed plays the lowest seed no matter what? Oh, yeah. It's not a reseed, though. Oh, yeah. Because technically that's. Yeah. Yeah. But they're staying in the same. Right? We kept talking about that. Oh, yeah. They're not five in the conference. Nobody's jumping. They should do it that way, though. So the lowest seed plays the highest seed. So you don't have a number one Oregon. And then let's say, you know, Georgia wins and Oregon ends up having to play Georgia. The number five spot. Yeah, it's the best one. It's like the spot that you want by far. Five is you got 12 and then four. Yeah, that. That's the way it goes. Can't have that go. That can't be. Like the thought of people like Oregon loses in a Big Ten championship. Not saying they're going to, but if Oregon loses in a Big Ten championship, they are definitely the five seed. Yeah. And then all of a sudden they're looking at it and they're like, this is actually kind of better. Thank God. All right, so we get a home game, still get a bye week and. Yeah. Still get two weeks, I think it is. And we got a home game and then also we got the lowest ranked champion or whatever. It's like five seats, a beautiful place. But then you lose the Big Ten champions. Yeah. If you look at like, I mean, obviously this isn't what the bracket's going to be because of the losses, but right there, you'd arguably want to be Ohio State playing Arizona State, then Boise versus Oregon. Listen, Ken Dillingham. Oregon's first game would then have to be Georgia or Tennessee. Yeah. It's an income. Whoa, whoa, whoa. SEC spn. Watch your mouth. Geez Louise. So I like Notre Dame's in such a good spot because, like, hey, we're not in a conference. Five is what we're Going for every single year, but they can't get any. All those other spots, I think is where they're going to fall in obviously this year, because the Northern Illinois law. Yeah. But like, they will change it if it goes to the top four. Okay. Let's pivot away from college football, which is chaos, but can't wait for tonight to add to it and maybe we'll learn a little bit more. We should. Good. But each week it changes. Yeah. It means nothing. Really. Yeah. Because the football judgment changes each week. Because what happened two weeks ago doesn't necessarily decide what happened last week. And if last week was vastly different than two weeks ago, what football judgment are we going with? It can never get, you know, in the season so long. The board just saying having to win four more games after playing 12. Crazy. Let's go back to last night's incredible game. There was a linebacker that is listed at 6, 3, 2, that ran 19.88 miles an hour, cruising just like kind of striding out in a pick six. First of two pick sixes for the Denver Broncos defense. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, number two in the NFL in sacks, Nick Bonito. How you doing, man? What up, y'all? Hey, sorry we made you wait there. As we finished up our college football conversation. Oklahoma is actually a part of the conversation because of them beating Alabama's ass a few weeks ago. So Oklahoma is not in tournament set. But certainly in the conversation, Nick. Certainly in the conversation. I'm glad we could just be in the conversation. Obviously it ain't been a really good year, but I mean, we got the little bamboo in. So it's not a little, you guys, 24, six or whatever that. Which is a big part of the whole convo. Let's talk about last night's win. Congratulations. Obviously, Monday Night Football, big win. This Denver Broncos team, your Denver Broncos team really has become something I think a lot of us couldn't have expected before the season because the salary cap hit because the rookie quarterback. Why do you think you guys are in the position that you're in right now from a behind the scenes perspective? Nick? Yeah, for sure. And I just feel like we just got a gritty team. I mean, obviously we seen the stuff that, you know, people were saying about us before the season and we looked internally and we knew we had everything we needed in the building. Bo, with the pro that he is, you know, even though he is a rookie, he doesn't really seem like it. Just the way he approaches the game and just all the hungry, you know, Players that we got in the, in the roster. So, you know, I definitely think that we just got that chip on our shoulder and we played like it. So. Yeah, and bo is like 55 years old, obviously, and I'm happy to hear that he acts. Happy to hear he acts like that. But the defense was something that I think going into the season, everybody knew you could hang your hat on Vance Joseph. Obviously you got guys have a star studded cast out there. What is it about your defense? Is it the grittiness or is there something else that kind of makes the magic for you guys? Yeah, I mean, like, hats off to BJ too. Like, he just helps us approach the game the right way. Obviously, starting in practice, just practicing hard, doing the little things there, and then just leading it onto a field. When you have one of the best corners and probably the best corner of the game, just, you know, you get to tell him to just go out and, you know, guard the best receiver and take him out of the game. It makes it easier for not only the front, but just everybody in the deal defense and just everybody's playing at a real high level. Everybody's playing hungry. So Patrick Certain is an absolute dog. There's another 55 year old as soon as he got dropped into the NFL. D. Bud has a question for you, Nick. Yeah. You talked about Pat yourself, you know, leading the team in sacks, a defense that's leading the NFL in sacks. What kind of clicked for you, you know, coming into year three that, you know, you're shining every week in and week out for this Broncos defense. Yeah, I would probably just watching more film, you know, knowing more concepts, you know, whether it's in the run in the past game, just being more comfortable out there, just, you know, going out there and playing ball, not thinking too much. And obviously coaches are coming up with a great game plan for us every week. And with the D line that we have, you know, as long as we're rushing well, you know, we're always going to get the results that we want. So let's talk about last night's game plan. And obviously there's you great hands. I mean, he. Brock County. Come on, Come on. Now, I've seen some South Florida dudes that can run. They can run, they can guard, they can cover, they can't catch. I'm saying a couple. Judy, Judy. Sir, More. I know you guys took over the game. I understand South Florida certainly has its contributions to sport. Okay, I, I agree completely. But let's not just label all of South Florida good hands that is, is, I will say phenomenal. Phenomenal athletes coming. That's the best. 63230. Striding at 19.88 miles an hour last night. Just. Just striding it out. Not even really utop 20. I think that's a, that's a headline this morning that 63230 human being can go 20 plus miles an hour. What a game. Now, on that note, Con man has a question for you. Yeah, Nick, how was it game planning for Jameis Winston? Was it go going into it, kind of knowing, like, hey, we're going to have some opportunities here to score touchdowns. And also there's a chance that this guy spins the pill all over the yard with Jerry Judy. And was there any thought like, hey, maybe one of us should get in the pregame tunnel to hear what his pregame speech is because they're so good. Good question. Yeah, I mean, just knowing, like, with Jew. He's obviously a great receiver, and him and Jamis have been, you know, building a connection those last couple of weeks prior to playing us. So we knew that was going to be his go to. And. And with Jameis man, he's obviously a great quarterback. I feel like, you know, he's a really good passer. He has his tendencies to, you know, give the ball away sometimes, but, you know, he's still a really good player. And I personally love the stuff that, you know, he puts out before the games where he's just getting the team hype and stuff. But, I mean, that's. That goes a long way because, you see, they're playing at a much higher level right now. So I love what he's doing over there. Stefanski had him throw the ball 58 times last night. 58 times. And that's James Winston football spinning it. All right, let's talk last question, because we're coming up on a hard out here, so we apologize that we're taking up any of your time, but also saying we have limited time while asking you a question nonetheless, Coach Sean Payton, what has he been like as a head coach over there? And why do you think he was the guy that every team wanted to hire as their head coach? Yeah, Coach P's a dog, bruh. Like, people just don't understand there's, like, a lot of misconceptions about him in the media with, like. Like, he could be a real dog on the field. You know, obviously he's, you know, been in this game for so long, but off the field, he's one of the coolest guys, too. And at the end of the day, he just wants to win. So he's going to get whatever he needs to out of. Out of the players and coaches to, you know, help do what he has to do to win. Shoe collection still absurd. Or is he more bland Shoe game now that he's older? I got to talk to him because I still, you know, he be. He be walking the Jordans around and stuff, like around the facility. I'm still trying to get a pair from him, so hopefully he'll be able to bless you with one. But he got a lot on him for sure. He always got heat on him. What's this guy gotta do? Come on. What's this guy gotta do to get some shoes? Hey, we appreciate you, man. Congrats on the great year thus far. 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I think the beginning of this episode, the first 2 minutes and 53 seconds, it is electrifying. Here's gonna be good. Shout out to NFL Films. We appreciate it. The talk today was here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer Cowboys. AP Town is here. Nine year NFL vet, Desert South Florida. South Florida boy. Yeah. Host of everything DB Good D, Bad D. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Butlers. Thank you much. Good to see you. Joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a man who's going to have tremendous thought about a situation that is happening around the NFL. Which is why we chose not to talk about it until now. He's a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion. He's also the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. Every one of those tackles he led with his head. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. What's the, what's the topic that you waited for me for? I don't, I don't understand. Ladies and gentlemen, the NFL has made it official that Aziz Al Shair, a linebacker for the Houston Texans, will be suspended for three games. John Runyon, Vice president of NFL Finding and Punishment basically released a long ass statement about him being a multiple time offender. And obviously this has happened before with different things. He's been fined and a three game suspension felt needed. But it's that last sentence that we have highlighted there that is really going to be the thing that is going to draw some electrifying content. Your lack of sportsmanship and respect for the game of football in all those who play, coach and enjoy watching it is troubling and does not reflect the core values of the NFL. Your continued disregard for NFL playing rules puts the health and safety of both you, you and your opponents in jeopardy. It will not be tolerated. Okay, that's from an NFL exec, John Runyon, former player, to him in his announcement that he's getting suspended for three games. First of all, A.J. three games. I don't think anybody expected that. I thought maybe two would be max three games a lot. How do you feel about the messaging and the way he was delivered there to Aziz? That was a bit interesting was the wording of that and of course anybody that's paying attention. This is followed by the clip of John Runyon Goring a 49ers player over the pot back when he was playing, which I, you know, I don't blame him for, for that at all. You know, he was just playing. But it is interesting how they worded this. Like I assumed, okay, they gave him three games, he's going to appeal and get it down to 2. Most maybe 1. I don't know if that's the case now. Like they're wording this so strongly. Like to let you know, like this cannot happen. But also, side note, I love what Nick Casario is doing to defend. I love what they're doing the whole team. I know you're going to get to a but I love that video of him and I love them standing up for their guy. Okay, to your point, D'Amico, Ryan's yesterday spoke about this and gave a full promo about like I am firmly on Aziz side in this entire thing, which is he has, he has had to say before, you know, D'Amico flew around, played linebacker. So he's literally been that and he has the C. Aziz has a C on D'Amico's defense. So like he has a lot of belief and faith in him. And he said, you know, the whole conversation he I shouldn't necessarily say this particular one, but the whole conversation about sliding, when they slide, how they slide, how somebody's supposed to, what somebody's supposed to. I think we all agree that utilizing the brace with Trevor, with how he slid, a lot of people seem to be a bit egregious. And then the Multiple times of being fined by this. Four different hits and actions. But the way here it is. Yeah, here's the list that get up put together this morning. Morning. And the fines that kind of accrued alongside of it. But that's the fifth time that John Runyon has kind of, you know, seen something that has happened with him. Now, the wording at the end of that, to your point, general manager of the Houston Texans, friend of the program, Nick Serio, took to the microphone to talk about it. Quite frankly, it's unfair. And I'd say one of the biggest issues that, that I probably speak for a lot of teams, not only the Houston Texans, but I think that's all teams ask for, is consistency from the league. And I'd say in this situation, I mean, quite frankly, there's no consistency at all relative to the level of discipline. Discipline that's been handed down. So when you go back, let's look at this season. Okay? We had multiple situations, multiple examples, all right, Two really good players, I would say Branch ejected against Green Bay, right. Plays the next week against us. Okay. Derwin ejected, all right, Got suspended for one game. And Derwin is a great player. And Derwent's had some other situations that have come up. And I'd say even going back here, a player that we know well, organizational here, Kareem Jackson. Kareem's a good player. Was eject, was ejected, fined, ejected, fined, ejected and then suspended, ended after three games. So we're going to say Aziz Al Shair, who nobody embodies our program more than Aziz. What he's about, what he's been through. You all know his story. There's not a more selfless individual, more about the team who's earned the respects that represents everything that we want this program to be about. I mean, this morning he was at a Unite Away event. So we're talking about some of the commentary that has been made about his character, about the person that he is, about what his intentions are from people that, quite frankly, don't know anything about Aziz Al Shair. Okay. And for the league to make some of the commentary that Dean made about lack of sportsmanship, lack of coachability, lack of paying attention to the rules. Quite frankly, it's embarrassing. So I think the big thing from our. And they talk about a player who's never been suspended, never been ejected. So now we're saying that he's going to be suspended for three games. Teams. So look, it is what it is. I think the big thing from our standpoint and all Teams want is just some level of consistency. And we've talked to the league. Quite frankly, we don't have a good explanation. D'Amico talked to them yesterday. So, I mean, it is what it is. So very grainy footage from an Ari Mirror of tweet. And we certainly appreciate Ari having his ear to the ground on everything that's happening everywhere in the NFL and ripping and clipping and posting because this is just his media meeting and who knows when we would. But he want to bat fully behind aziz. So did D'Amico yesterday. So if I'm Aziz, I feel good about it. And you're right about the appeal. It probably comes down to two games. But if I'm Aziz, I gotta be very pumped that this is how the Houston Texans are responding. And if you're the NFL, you're gonna have to answer Nick Kissario saying, what are we doing of consistency? Yeah, not only about consistency, but also the way we're phrasing one of our players who was at a United Way event this morning. You're talking about disregard for health and safety and unsportsman. It's like this is a guy, they're almost attacking him personally. That's the thing. They're almost attacking him like as a person in your fine letter. That's the tough thing. It's like media people, they say, I will talk about their play on the field. I'm never going to attack them as a person. And what they do, that's what people will say if they want to be a journalist or want to be somebody that presents the game to people. Yeah. But that is never what happens in this particular time. It's coming from the NFL, you know, and it's a. I like what's happening with K down there. Once again, don't like the hit. Okay. I'm not condoning hit, not condoning outcome. But I like when a team just like we talked about yesterday with the flag. Yes. I like when a team comes out for their team. Yes. Like, I like that a lot, including suits like Nick Love, GM head coach coming out back in their guys. I'm sure teammates will do the same. We got to remember, man, this is a violent, violent, very violent game. A very, very fast game. And AJ And Bill had a conversation yesterday, like, okay, what are you telling to do in that situation like that? I always talk about that quarterbacks are the toughest people to tackle. Any open field. We see Mahomes, you know, fake slide, pick it back in college. Like it happens, you tiptoe near the Sideline. So I think that also needs to be addressed from the quarterback standpoint as far as sliding and protecting themselves, because it is very, very tough on the defenders. And they put up, you know, kind of Aziz, his former infractions or fines wasn't really big fines. You know, a lot of those. A lot of those things are kind of in the heat of the moment. Once again, it's a fast game, a roughing the pass or a face mask, you know, fighting late. Hit like those. That's football. Obviously, the Trevor Lawrence hit was nasty and it was amplified even more because of the fight after, which absolutely should happen, which we like. Yeah, you see that happen. I heard D'Amico Ryan saying, you know, the sideline overreacted. I think that's exactly how he wanted his sideline to react with C.J. stroud was hit that same way. But at the end of the day, it's a fast, it's a violent game. Things like this are going to happen. Hated the wording of those statements from the NFL. And I'm with A.J. i think he appeals this. And it comes. And it comes down to two games, maybe even one, hopefully. But as a linebacker, that's the kind of I want a guy like that who's going to toe that line, who's going to play the game. You know, how it's still, you know, in some ways meant to be played. And obviously you want player safety. You want and you hope Trevor Lawrence is okay, too. Now, don't look now. Houston Texans just lost their tone setter on defense. Okay. Indianapolis goals. Yeah. Now's the time. Yeah, now's the time to go. Big one coming up. There's a chance. Big win by week. There's a chance. But obviously we don't love this. The way this whole thing went down. Anytime it starts getting like this. Not good. Hey. No good for a shield. Yeah, it stinks. It's not. It's not good for the shield. Hopefully it'll get settled. But I do like that a general manager said, I like a press conference, you know, because they don't have to talk till after the season. Yeah, gms don't have to talk until at beginning of season. I think they have to have a press conference or off. I think draft. They have to have a meeting with the press. I think there's a preseason one they have to have, and I think there's a postseason one that they have to have. I don't know everybody else. Yeah. Like you very rarely. GMs don't have to really Talk. It's not like a mandatory. So he definitely had to call that and say, hey, I don't like the way they're talking about the guy that's captain of the team that I am general managing. And I think that shows a lot about who Aziz is behind closed doors down there. Yeah, he was at a United Way event this morning. Yeah. Just trying to, you know, hey, John Runyon, I don't know how you spent. Did you sleep in this morning? I hope you got a good. You know what he was doing? Curing cancer. Yeah. Helping. Okay. That's what. That's what he was doing this morning. Were you. Is that what you were doing, John? You know what he did last night overnight? No sleep. Going in to cure cancer, build a home for the homeless people. By hand. All the way downtown. By himself. By himself. We asked to help. He said, no, I want to do it myself. This guy's hammering nails. That's basically what you said, and I love that. I think everybody's hoping that at some point they have somebody that is in their world going to bat for him like that. So congrats to the Texans seemingly having a very tight culture down there. But look out, the Indianapolis culture. I don't know. Joining us now is Amanda. I assume we'll have a take on this because it is quickly becoming a discussion about quarterback sliding, how they slide. When are they allowed to slide? Can they do the fake slide? Can he pick it in college? And then all of a sudden, boom, we're off and running fake out of bounds, you know. Oh, don't want to hit a guy going out of bounds, but turn that thing right up there. Joining us now is a guy who's played through, like, four different generations of the NFL. He's currently the oldest player in the NFL, just turned 41 the other day. Happy birthday, ladies and gentlemen, four time NFL MVP Aaron Rogers. How you doing, brother? Yeah, doing good, guys. Interesting conversation you're having. How do you feel about it? Okay, so let's dive into it. Trevor Lawrence obviously ends up getting concussed. And it's one of the scary. It's the. It's the lockup one. I forget the name. It's. They have a name. Yeah, I forget the name. Fencing. Fencing. Fencing. There it is. Fencing it is. I'm learning too much about this, by the way. But the fencing lockup. And then a fight happens. Aziz ends up getting suspended for three games. Now, in the wording of the suspension, they talked about, like, on sportsmanlike and disregard for safety and almost attacked him as a person. General manager Nick Serio comes out and says, this guy this morning giving back to the community. Aaron, which part do you want to start with? Do you want to start with the quarterback sliding, becoming a protected play? Do you want to talk about the finding structure? You kind of can take this whichever way you like. Well, I mean they've already done a lot to support the quarterback and keep the quarterback safe. I mean the whole game has changed in the last 20 years. It's not the same physicality. There's protected players all over the field on both sides of the ball. There's no more cutting right downfield. That's changed the way you know that. There's been interactions with the toss plays. You've protected the quarterback from basically the knee to the shoulder. Make it real difficult on defensive players to know how to even tackle the guy. You've protected players going over the middle back then, you know, you didn't go over the middle and throw it. You know, the Ray Lewis's and the Burlackers and the Briggs and the E.J. hendersons and all the guys we played over the years in the NFC north, you had to be careful throwing the football over the middle because those guys are going to get smacked, you know, so now we've encouraged, you know, a lower level standard of play from the quarterback position because you never worried about throwing the ball down the middle because you're not going to get your guy killed. You know, then there's a protection outside the pocket. Now it's changed a lot. You know, I think we've lost a lot of physicality. I think we've done some good things for player safety for sure, you know, but I think it's really hard to play defense in those situations. You know, I really feel bad for the college kids who get kicked out of a half or the first half of the next game or two and a half quarters, you know, if it happens in the first quarter or the second quarter, you know, the entire game because it's bang bang plays. You're throwing a ball to a guy, he catches the ball, he ducks. I'm taking an angle. We've talked about this before. I'm taking a, you know, a shoulder below angle. He ducks it now and getting hit in the head and that's a, you know, getting kicked out of the game for that's ridiculous. Now some of these, you know, hits on defense that are called penalties are not called penalties are ridiculous as well. The interpretation of the rules is very hard for the, for the stripes but it is interesting what they try and. Can I ask you, Can I ask you about quarterbacks? Can I ask you about the quarterback sliding? Because that feels like a big part of it. D'Amico brings it up. I think every defender brings it up whenever they're talking about it. Is there a moment in a quarterback's mind where, you know, it's too late to slide or, oh, I want to slide, but maybe I missed the timing window or I want to dive. Maybe I want to possibly dive for the first down, but you're in indecision between those two. Is that an, is that a natural thought? Is that in a moment? When are you having that thought, you know? Well, I mean, back in the day, I mean, you, you always slid really early, you know, and we in college, Deptford never let us slide feet first. It was always diving because you're worried about getting drilled. Like the play that unfortunately happened to Trevor, if you go, if you go feet first. But it's tough to play defense. You know, there should be some onus, I think, on the quarterback. This slide early, we're pushing it because they like the market where you begin your slide. So if it's close to a first down yardage, you're always trying to kind of push the envelope. But you got to understand what's happening on the other, on the other side now. You don't, you don't get expect maybe to get smacked, but, you know, maybe they should ease the rules a little bit on some of that stuff to maybe deter some of the late slides. Because again, I don't think that Aziz is a dirty player and he, look at his, you know, his rap sheet of fines in the league. It's not like we're talking about some, you know, it's not like, you know, yeah, with late hit fighting, face mask, roughing the passer. You know, I don't think that's, that's egregious of any. Now he's a thumper, though. I mean, he, he, he can really hit. If you ever watch him on film, you're like that dude, you know, if I'm watching film and, and luckily he didn't play when we played the Texans. But if I was out, I would know where. He's number zero, isn't he? I would know where zero's at and I wouldn't, I don't think I'd be worried about a late slide there. I would slide with plenty of time because he's a talented player. But I think some of the rules have really Helped, for sure. Player safety and things that shouldn't be in the league. And some of the rules, I think, have made it closer to sarcastic ball and have not improved the viewing experience anymore. Yeah, the product I understand. Yeah. Because there's a lot of things that just look soft or whatever. And obviously we don't want to see people fencing the field. Like, we're at a point where we understand that, but there's a lot happening and the sport is always going to be violent. And Demo came out and he put the C on them. So he's like, this is my guy. Krio comes out same way. Love what their building is doing behind him. But also I love that the Jacksonville team wanted to fight him. So the whole situation, obviously, hopefully we learn from him, we move forward. You know, I think Demo and Nick K would be pumped about you two. How about you Laying a block with your old ass. Wow. How about you? Now, granted, you ended up on the ground. The other guy's still good. But you got, in a way, made a big time play, made a decision, and he was on the ground as well. I mean, I thought, you know, he. He got knocked down by Witherspoon. I said, he got knocked down by Witherspoon. He got knocked down by me laughing because. Because I went to help him up and he kind of. He kind of slapped me aside. Oh, because you're like offensive lineman who gets a pancake, like, let me help you up. And he's like, excuse me, I got a hip by somebody else. No, he got. Yeah, exactly. But he could have said that as he was getting picked up. He could have said, hey, that wasn't you that knocked me down. Did you get a tackle for that? What are you doing? You're getting your head in there. I love that you're getting your head in there. Doing the entire. You felt alive in there. You felt alive. I assume you felt alive in there. In. Listen, in practice there was always maybe one guy, you know, it was kind of. I could hang back and make sure the end didn't go well. Well, I was kind of out in the open there. There wasn't just one guy, there was two guys. So. I love it. You did it. I love it. You're 40 years old. Incredible. Still bringing it. Yeah, I was 40 on that day. Yeah. Yes, you are. One last time. Let's see if the 40 year old could hang. You know, maybe 41 year old doesn't take those types of hits. Go ahead, A.J. i want to go back to the sliding thing. Is that Something you guys ever practiced? Is it something that coaches talk about in the off season? I don't like. I would imagine they're going to have to address rest this for these guys going in the off season. Well, you don't really talk about it. And it's not like, you know, we're sliding a whole lot in practice. I can't remember a time, you know, maybe one time in like a move the ball period in like a training camp where we were working on like four minutes where I might have scrambled and slid and bounce and I think that could be one time in all the years of practice. Not something you work on. On. I've seen some teams do slip insides for guys who can't slide. I mean he used to make fun of Matt Flynn because he was kind of a double knee slider. Soccer did a couple real kind of interesting slides over the years. I wish we get some video of that, but I don't know if there's any out there other than maybe preseason against the Rams the one year. But what year was that exactly? I don't know if we get a film in that. I don't know if there's any out there except for the Rams preseason 2000. That's what I just saw heard brain doing right there. Yeah, I think it was like 2012 maybe. You've pulled this up before. This certainly exists. Let's go ahead and get that up there so we can watch it. But the sliding, you know, there are some. We hear stories like some quarterbacks having to learn how to slide like this quarterback. Well, I think most of us probably play baseball though. I mean I guess there's way more focus on being a single sport athlete. But if you play, if you play baseball ever, like you know how to slide. I'm a right foot forward left left knee bent slider. Kind of the way I've always been. I think you're kind of one way or the other. AJ's you know, he's a lefty so he's probably the other way but I don't know. I think I can. Yeah, I think I'm left foot forward. I think I tuck in my right leg. No, you're both knees, aren't you? Like Matt Flynn, you're doing. I'm not going like that would. Yeah, they're both PCLs in my body. Yes. Spencer. Spencer Havner, he was a left foot forward guy too. Big sp Spanx. I don't know big spanks. I like that. I soccer slide left leg back, right leg. But John John Coon, he was always face first. You know, he was head first slide. Yeah, well, that. I love that. John Coon did that. And also John K, you're phenomenal on radio. Miss you. We hope you get back on radio. Obviously. We love to chat with you about next. I think, I think, I think he should just start his own podcast. Podcast. He's got one of that for. He's got one. Yeah. Breaking the stick. Him and Schneidman got a pocket together. Yeah. Come on, Aaron. Aaron, you knew that. Obviously. Great mind snake alike. Okay, let's talk about this season with you and the New York jets as we try to find the mat. Flynn, double knee slide. Coach, Coach Brick came out, say you're a starter. Okay. And that's an interesting situation. Obviously that that's even taking place. But that's happening because of all the reports and yada, yada, yada, that is taken. Where are you mentally at with this season with the New York jets and how are you framing the rest of the way here? I just want to finish, you know, finish off as well as we can. Been a rough season. A lot of opportunities to win games that we didn't get the job done. Fourth quarter, some of those games were won and lots in maybe the first, second, third quarter. If you go back to some of the important impact plays and which again was the case on Sunday. But you know, when you have a chance to win the fourth quarter and you come up short, it's always a little extra disappointing. But listen, you know, we get paid for 17 weeks, not, not 10, not 11, not five. So if you're, you're the starter, you want to play all the games. So that's how I feel. I want to, you know, I want to be out there with my guys in battle as long as I feel healthy, body feels as good as it felt. Whether fortunately or unfortunately for the situation, body feels great. I want to be out there. I want to be out there with the guys. I want to battle. I have a lot of pride in playing. You know, one of my goals this year coming back from the Achilles was to play all 17 games. I assume that would be 17 plus whatever playoff games we played in. Obviously that hasn't been the case this year, so. But we still got five games left and would love to be out there battling with the guys. Okay. So everything you were feeling last year when you were away from the team and rehabbing and trying to come back quicker than ever before. Obviously we have an announcement to make at the end of the show. And there's going to be a lot more insight on that than I think any of us could have imagined. But I think you missed the game, right? You missed the boys. And this weekend, when that kickoff return goes to the house and they have a shot of you on the sideline with smelling salt and then go and crack crazy. And although the season hasn't gone the way you still feel, you know, about football, the way that has kind of driven you throughout your entire football career at this old ass age, you know, you're the oldest guy, obviously. Yeah, well, Big Dog's pretty close to me too. I think Big Dog is about to be 40 as well, so he's, you know, in the, in the fifth decade of our lives here, but. And his job physically is much more difficult than mine. But I still love football. Always have, always will. Been obsessed with it since I was 6 years old. Watching Joe Montana and then Steve Young and then Barry Sanders and Brett Favre and my favorite players and dreaming about playing on Sundays. And when I got in the league, I didn't think I was going to be playing 20 plus years. I was just kind of hoping to get five. I thought that'd be cool, you know, five years in the league and then when I got to five, I was like, eight would be really cool. You know, like eight years, like that's like a nice career. And then got to 8. I said, anything after 10 is great. And then you kind of get into this and you're like, I can keep doing this. And you get a little smarter and you figure out how to, you know, get your body where it needs to be. And you little, you know, hacks with the diet and sleeping and meditation and off season workouts and mental clarity and visualization, all different things to kind of allow you to stick around for a while. And I loved every minute of it. And this has been something really, really special in my life. And you know, as much as the game has given me just about everything in my life currently with the status and money and fame and notoriety and connections, at the end of the day, the most important thing are the relationships. I've talked about it many times. You know, this game has given me the, you know, my family, you know, the people that are, that are with me. You know, it's given me best friends and God, kids and people who've stepped in different roles in my life that I needed at various times, showed up for me as parents, as uncles, as brothers, as friends, as confidants. And I'm really thankful for the game and that's the stuff you take with you. And that's what I, you know, figured out at Cal. I was reminded. Didn't figure it out. Was reminded at Cal how important those relationships are. They stick with you for a long time. And that's my message to the guys is, you know, even in a season where there's been a lot of frustration, like if you just turn it off and you just take your mind elsewhere when you're at work, you're going to miss out on the great opportunities to connect with your teammates and conversations that could make a difference in your life down the road or make a difference in somebody else's life. So that's what I'm looking for. I still love the game and just want to finish the season out the right way. Yeah, Watching you celebrate like a little kid was cool. That was a really cool moment to watch you on the sideline, especially in this season. And here's to the lads. It's always about the lads. Amen. Isn't it always about the lads? Ultimately, forever. All those moments, I, I've been a part of a losing season and man, that, that year it is hard to find the silver lining. But the lads, you know, coming together and having a win, a big time win is obviously something that carries you to the next week. And the fan base is feeling and hoping for the same thing. There are some football outcomes that you can affect what's going on in other places. Go ahead, con man. Yeah, Aaron, Is it kind of like a silver line that you guys can still play spoiler to, you know, the Dolphins playoff chances and also the Bills getting the one seed. Is that something that is still kind of a motivator in the building and for you to play that kind of role going forward? Well, I don't know, Connor. I mean, I think we're all. We gotta be self motivated. I think there's a lot of inspiration that can be drawn from whatever it is that we can do on the field. But I think first and foremost there should be, you know, just a real base level of motivation that comes from being a professional. Because being a professional in this job is not a sometime thing, it's an all the time thing. And it's really a 365 day a year job. 66 in the leap years, which everybody forgets about. That we're currently in. Yes, we're currently in that. But, but it's an all the time, all the time thing. And on top of that, you know, being a pro is, is that your, your Habits stay the same. So, you know, you're doing the little things. Because I think what people forget sometimes is that there's always people watching, always people watching. And especially with the situation where in with our GM relieved and our head coach relieved and interim head coach, everything is being watched at all times. And so the habits that you're going to let go or you might not think are as important because we're out of it and we don't have a chance. Says a lot about. Says a lot about you. This business is about people. It's a people business. People talk different teams and you're always auditioning for somebody, whether it's to your own team to get another contract or to get more responsibility or to get, you know, become the face of the franchise at some point, or whether it's for some people that are at this organization, they're going to go somewhere else and tell stories about who you are, because ultimately that's. That's all you can take with you. So I hope we remember that these last five weeks. I hope we have pride and we take the field because we've got a lot to play for. We've got a lot of friendships, a lot of, A lot of special people in the organization to play for and to do things the right way. And you know, it's seasons like this sometimes that can build for the future because you always remember how guys reacted in adverse times or when some people would just want to throw in the towel and say, hey, shit's over. Let's just get to the fucking off season. That goes a long way when you get into those grooves and you're winning and on the march to the playoffs and then you face adversity. You kind of remember how guys reacted in those moments and who you can count on in those battles. It's pretty evident who you are some of the times, who you are all the time. And how you do anything is how you do everything. You know, that old adage, but it's very real, especially in that particular truth. Yep, agreed. I, I completely agree. And I think there are people that forget, like, hey, still profession, still jobs, still year after this year, there's dreams, aspirations for not only this team, but life. I'm excited for that. The way to watch, like kind of how you guys close this thing out, it's going to be very telling. Because what is the future over there, do you know? I mean, I think, I think there's a few different avenues that happen, and one of them is, you know, kind of a. The whole Thing getting kind of blown up. You know, we got a lot of guys on one year, one year deals, so the whole team could look different, Front office could look different, Coaching staff could look different. So young guys maybe don't understand that, you know, who you are, how you got the team. That's part of an old regime now. New regime comes in. You're auditioning, you know, you're auditioning for the new regime. I mean, I think we all who played on the panel here can agree with that. You know, when a new regime comes in, it's different, you know, because they want to bring in their own energy, their own style, their own philosophy. And you got to fit in. They're not fitting into you. You got to fit into that new thing. So there's going to be auditions for everybody that wants to be a part of the jets next year. I was told I didn't draft you. I have zero loyalty to you in negotiation. I was told that. I'm like, damn, okay. I thought I'd done a lot for maybe the team and the town and the community and the city. But, yeah, I guess. All right, if that's how you view. But that's reality. A situation. That's reality, that is. And they have a vision of how they want that team to look. How they want that team to do. And whether you're a part of it or not is obviously up to them. But you could showcase a lot whenever you're wrapping up a year like this. Go ahead, A.J. have you thought about. Whenever you are done playing, have you thought about any more getting into the media, watching Tom and Tony on there call games? Is that something you ever could see yourself doing at any level? One of the things I really love about you and I love about this show, Aiden, is that you can sit there with your fake books behind you. Whoa, what? And your. And your Gatorade cut between your legs to urinate and you can ask me a question. That's a rhetorical question, Woodcock, because you already know the answer to that. But you can ask it straight face to try and get people to think that I'm going to give that. I'm going to give a. A new answer. That's what I love about you. That's why we love it. That's why we love them. Don't ever change, bro. The answer is. The answer is no. No. Why? For now, man. Great question. Great question. I can't wait to. I can't wait to sidebar with you later about this. Oh, you guys are going to sidebar you come on here. You come on here and speak. It'd be the same thing, just, you know, on whatever network calling a game, being a suit. Yeah, your sweet suit, some tassels, some necklaces. Listen, what? After this thing is done, you're not going to, you're not going to see me. You'll see me maybe in, you know, in Tahoe. You see me if I, you know, ever go back to Green Bay and, you know, four or five years and then that's about it. Are you gonna have a sweet beard like Letterman? Remember Letterman? Oh, yeah. Jim Carrey. Yeah, Jim Carrey. What he is Rubin. Are you all Rick Rubin? He's always looked like that. But all these guys, like, when they disappear, they have his full transformation and they show up. Are you going to have a. Have you thought about your look yet, what it's going to be? It's not going to be that. I can promise you that. Are you going to be £400? Are you going to be like 150? Are we, are we going to. I mean, I think, I think DBOC is going to be close to 400 and I'll be close to 200 on a Tuesday. It's a beautiful thing. D but has a question for you. Yeah. You kind of just mentioned a new regime coming in. And this is not about the jets, but a place like Chicago, you know, a new regime coming in, you're keeping the gym, but a new head coach building around that young quarterback. You play for offensive coaches, you play for defensive coaches. What would be your mindset building around a quarterback like that, who you, who I would expect will be the last guy out of the building that you could throw under the bus or move forward from? So how would you go? Is it an offensive minded coach? Is it a leader of men type guy who isn't calling plays? How would you go about that? Building an organization or building a team around a young quarterback going forward? Well, that relationship is going to be really important. You know, if you think he's the face of the franchise and the future of the franchise for the next decade plus, then you need somebody who can come in and work with him and connect with him on a personal level. You know, I think every young quarterback, whether we want to admit it or not, we want to be coached really badly. You know, we don't have all the answers. We'd love somebody to hold us accountable. My favorite coaches, the coaches you want to play for the best. We're always the ones that, you know, that held you to a Crazy level. I tell the story a lot about Tom Clements and how he used to give me minus performances on 100 quarterback rating games. And I just, I got so mad. I just wanted to kind of like show him, you know, that I could, I could, you know, play that perfect game that he was holding me to the level that he was holding me. And I just loved him for that because he made me want to play great for him because I just wanted that smile, that rare Tom Clemens smile that was like, hey, good game plus performance, you know, because it was just his binary plus or minus performance. And it was, you know, semi arbitrary according to me. But he always held me to such a high standard. I think that's what a young quarterback needs, you know, and I don't think, I think he needs some stability. The other thing I'm going to say is really, really important. Diva. And I'm glad you said me up for this question. I think there has to be a movement and I thought there would be. Before I go on that tangent, I thought there would be. When the ownership came out and said it's unacceptable that there's, you know, however, $100 million being paid out to coaches that aren't coaching anymore. Right. Or personnel people. 800, I think. I think it was 800 million, 700 or 800 million. Yeah. So what I'm saying, I think is there needs to be a return turn to hiring the right person at general manager, at head coach and then allowing them to do their job with full backing from the organization. I think there's a lot to that. And I will set an example of the Detroit Lions and say that they're. They've done it the right way. Right. So Detroit, when, when Dan came in mcdc the first year, they were. What was the record? Foxy? They were 0 and 10 to start. Owing to. 10 to start. Yeah, 0, 10 to start. Right. Then the second year, they start off the season after seven games, 1 and 6. Right. And then do you remember what. What, what the sentiment was from the, from the organization, what they said? I just know that they said keep it going. They said, who's the GM in. In Detroit? Holes. Forgive me. Yeah. They said, he's our GM and mcdc is our head coach. And since that statement was made, made. And again, you can fact tip me on this, whether it was week 8th or around that time, they have won a crazy amount of games. They finished the 22 season on a high and went 9 and 8. They came back last year and did what they were 13 and 4 or something like that. Yep. And then they're 11 and 1 this year. Am I right? Yep. I can tell you that there's. That's not a coincidence. I don't believe in coincidence, but that's not a coincidence that that happens. Happened. And then you've seen this shift because that's the energy that goes around a building when the head coaches in the hot seat and maybe the quarterback is on the hot seat or the GMs on the hot seat or any of the kind of the main out there, important pieces in kind of the media mind and the ownership can say, hey, this is what we're doing. I don't give a shit about what your opinion is, is, or what's going on. This is the process. We believe in mcdc, we believe in the gm, we believe in Jared Goff. Whatever the statements was, that goes a long way. And I think any organization would be smart to think about that, especially Chicago. And listen, I played in their rival for 18 years and so a lot of. That's a lot of change down there over the years. You're their lane. You got to hire the right people and then you got to empower them and then you got to let them be and support them until such time comes that you don't see the growth that you need. But to change a culture, to change a program takes time and it takes patience. And a lot of ownership around the league doesn't have the patience to let that thing go through. Now, there are certain situations, and I'll let you go. There are certain situations where after a year year, you see issues that are just not fixable or maybe you see things that didn't come out in an interview that you just don't like or maybe there's off the field stuff that you don't like from. I'm talking about from the upper levels. And you got to make a change. I understand that. But for the most part, whether it's a quarterback development or a team development under a new coach, they need time to do that. But way more important than that, and trust me when I say this, way more important than that, they need the backing of the. Of the ownership. Because when that backing is out there, and I'm not talking about privately, I'm talking about privately and publicly, it changes the energy of the entire team. Change the energy of the entire team. It changes the way the team is talked about too. You know, like. And who you're mentioning up there is Sheila Ford Ham. Exactly. Because the Lions weren't like that. Remember Jim Caldwell had success with getting the hell out of here. And then Matt, Patricia Cubbs. It's not good. Get him the hell like Sheila. Sheila Ford Hamp came in and I think she's the one that's been the most publicly backing of mcdc and Brad Holmes from draft night one day through the entire process. Right, Exactly. It was Sheila Fordham, Chris Spielman and they gave mcdc, I think a five or a six year contract right away. And everyone said that is way too long. But it just shows that they were going to do something different and they were going to have McDc's back, have Brad Holmes back. And Aaron, to your point, when they started out one and six and his second season, you said there was a breaking point. The Lions and the Chiefs have the most amount of wins since that moment. So yeah, it's just. That's what it is. It's a full on support of the team. Get out now. It's super bowl or we're the worst team in football. Right? Exactly. Now we win a Super bowl or we're having. That's what you want. And then the entire energy. Change the narrative. And I promise you that it's. It wasn't fucking just some random thing that happened. They didn't just click it in. That energy is contagious and there's no coincidences when that, when that happened, it changed the whole thing. You've said that a couple times. You think everything happens for a reason. Obviously. I didn't say that. I just said there's no coincidences. So everything's planned. I didn't say that either. Are we being controlled? I don't know. You tell me. What, so coincidence is something just happening, Right. Just a happenstance taking place without any preconceived setup or structure. It's just a coincidence takes place that really potentially goes, oh, that's quite a winky dink. It's. What you don't think that happens is a little. This little wink from the universe. Oh, okay. You think it's like, I don't want to get into the whole thing here, but universe you're starting to though. Universe is pretty active right now. Hey. Pretty active right now. Universe. I don't know other universes too. Getting pretty. Pretty nosy. Getting pretty nosy. Seemingly with our universe, you know, the whole lot of a lot going on. Lot going on there is. You tell them there is a lot going on. All right, let's get back to football. Yeah. You were a part of something that was a weapon. I think for the Green Bay packers for a long time, that frozen tundra is a thing in of itself. With college ball happening, happening, and also NFL football happening these later months, it is a conversation that's getting very loud. Tone has a question for you. Yeah, Aaron, we saw the frozen tundra host the Miami Dolphins on Thanksgiving Eve, and then we saw the Bills host the Niners in a snow globe on Sunday night. And obviously you playing there forever and then playing outside for the Jets. Is there anything these, like warm weather teams or dome teams can do besides, you know, or prepare yourself for the cold? Just. Besides just being out there and just being in it all the time, is there anything that these teams can do? And it's definitely an advantage for these cold weather outdoor teams. Right? I mean, I always thought so. I always thought that the pass rush slowed down, that it was easier for teams to quit when it was really cold. And so starting fast was a premium. You got up on a team and a lot of times you could kind of start to make them fold a little bit. Now there was always a surge. I felt like in the third quarter, quarter, regardless what happened in the first half, there'd be like that, you know, they go to halftime, they warm up, they'd be like it, all right, let's go, you know, let's have a third quarter. She got to kind of withstand that third quarter. And I think you saw that a little bit in the Packer Miami game, right? They, they put together at least one drive or two drive, a couple drives in the second half. But, but JLo and the boys, you know, kind of held on the football and ran the ball and he had a good night throwing it and they, you know, put him away. But, but I always felt like it was a big advantage when, when a warm weather team or dome team was coming to, to Lambeau. And I always wanted, man, you know, give me that sweet spot like 30 to 10, like from 10 to 30, really 10 to 20 was just absolutely perfect because it was cold enough, wasn't going to rain, and it was kind of right in that. Where you're, you know, they're kind of miserable and you're right on the edge of like that mindset, like, damn, it's cold out here. It's like. No, it's. Yeah, it's not bad. Not bad. That was when you used to put out those long jaunts. You'd have those long. Yeah, those long johns. The dicky. The dicky on too. Yeah. Everybody knew Aaron Rodgers had. Dicky was a different animal. We'd See warm ups. We'd actually be waiting to place our bets. You'd come jogging out there in that Long John looking thing, Dickie, and it's like, boom, here we go. This is a Packers night. 10 to 10 to 30, 10 to 20. I think we could up that to 15. I think. I think that could be 15 to 25. No, 10 was nice. 10 was good. 10 keep the window as long as there's no wind. Yeah, but Greenville's always windy. Wind's a big difference, isn't Green? No, no, that's Chicago. Yeah, that Windy City. But I. I think that was actually on the flip flop. If you go back into the. There's actually a flip flop, which right now, Second City. A lot going on. There's a lot going on in the world that we're in. Every time I've been in Green Bay, it's been breezy, though it's not always. That's why I always thought it was like such a terrible place if you had to kick. Not just. Only the cold, I thought was always kind of breezy there. Not. Not the case, I guess. No, not always. I mean, I don't know. I'd have to ask John about. About it. He's. He's kind of the expert of all things Green Bay now. So maybe. Maybe hit up jk, see what I like. Still breezy there or not. I like you saying, I don't even want to give an answer because if I give an answer, I'm going to get a text from somebody saying, oh, you're an expert. You're the. You're the Doppler expert on. I mean, I've done. I've done a little bit of research on the weather patterns over. Over Green Bay over the years, but not a, you know, weatherman. You're not a full BOMBER Like Joe DiNardo or John. Karen, obviously. Let's take a step away from football. Let's talk about life. Ty, is a question for you? Yeah. Aaron, you know, around your birthday every year, it's always a good time for prayer and reflection. Yep. Amen. Amen. Amen. Just curious, you know, football or otherwise, what do you think the biggest takeaway you had from your 40th trip around the sun as you look forward to year 41 here? Hell yeah. Oh, man. I think it was the best year of my life for sure. I mean, last year I posted something about what the. With the. It was like one of those little Internet sayings, and it was something about feeling more alive than you've ever felt before. And more heartbroken than you've ever felt before in the same year. And that's kind of what 2023 was. But 2024 was, was a grind physically for sure. I mean, the, the work to just get back onto the field and then obviously dealing with a couple of little issues I've had this season. But it's been a really beautiful year and I don't have any regrets about coming to New York. In fact, I'm so thankful. If I hadn't come to New York, my life wouldn't look the way it does now. And I was thinking about that, like, how many beautiful blessings have come into my life since being a Jet. And there's a lot of them, people, experiences, memories. But just there's so many individuals that work in the building that I never would have have met. You know, I would have gone my life without getting to meet and get to know, you know, Solomon Thomas. To be locker mates with Tack McKinley and Tyron Smith and get to have great conversations with other guys. To be able to play with Morgan Moses, who's one of the realest dudes I've ever stepped on the field with. Just an absolute G, you know, just a stud, a warrior. To be able to make jokes with Will McDonald every day, you know, to be able to watch Garrett Wilson and Breece hall and Jermaine Johnson and Sass Gardner as they start their, you know, what should be, you know, epic long careers is really cool. To be able to be in the same locker room with Thomas Morstead, you know, a longtime vet, and to watch him in his silly little running after he punts the ball and his crazy ass workouts and schedule. He does, does his CrossFit stuff, but just to tap in with him, you know, every single day is really special. To be able to be able to share a room with Tyrod Taylor, you know, one of the coolest, smoothest dudes I've ever been around. I never would have got to know these guys in this way, you know, I never would have got to be around Todd Downing and Nathaniel Hackett in this way again and get to know Robert Sala on a personal level and get to know Jeff Ulbrich and his family and Robert and his family and get to hang out, play catch with his kid, Adam and Jackson and Junior's kid and have the handshakes and just all the things I experienced, man, I would just. My life would be completely different. And I promise you, not as full and not as rich if I hadn't gotten traded here and been on board with this happening. Obviously there's been a lot of ups and downs, but damn, I'm really thankful for this time and this journey and man, whatever happens again, I'm open to everything and attached to nothing but. But thankful for. For the journey. Open to anything attached to nothing. That has been kind of the mindset about the future, what you just said. There was a beautiful recap of the last trip around the sun for you, but breaking news. There is going to be a docu series about Aaron Rodgers, I believe over the last year or year and a half on Netflix. Dropping December 17th. Oh, here we go. It is titled Enigma. It is about Aaron Rodgers and we have an exclusive trailer right now. Oh, do you really? Yeah, yeah. Yep. Oh, good one. I live between two worlds of the extroverted. One, two, three. And an introverted lover of silence. I'm trying to beat back father time and the expectation Aaron Rodgers ain't for everybody. Rogers has shared controversial and crazy conspiracy theories. It just feels like you're either for him or against him. Losing friendships, family. It was heartbreaking. Here come the Jets. Rogers has something to prove. It is on. We gotta get out. Protection breaks down, goes Rogers. Aaron Rodgers has officially tore his Achilles. It's catastrophic. Is it time for him to retire? What does the future hold for Aaron Rodgers? I'm coming back to do it all. Unless the race complain. That's not normal people getting to see behind the curtain. Have you thought about going into politics? Once I started my spiritual journey, everything shifted. The metamorphosis is happening. Most people are not doing the walking. I'm not most people. I'm trying to find what a new edge is. There's football legacy, Rogers a touchdown, and then there's character legacy. It was gonna be the big dog with me. When that ride comes to a stop, who are you going to be? Hey, that's going to be sweet. And just like I say at the end of every single season for Aaron Rodgers. Tuesday, like, thank you for allowing us to go alongside you for another year, another season. Thank you for allowing the world to get a chance to see your life in opening up and doing this docu series. Are you excited? Are you pumped? Are you nervous? What are the thoughts as December 17th, that debut is about to happen? Yeah, I mean, I'm. I'm thankful for the last year. You know, when Gotham reached out after I got hurt, we had a good conversation and it was fun to. To have him along for the ride and Liam and Sarah and some really amazing people I got to meet along the Way, you know, it's. It chronicles a lot of the rehab. It chronicles a trip down to Costa Rica where we did ayahuasca. There's some great backstory stuff, you know, from my 18 years in green Bay and some interesting interviews. So, yeah, I mean, it's pretty. Pretty wide open. Talking about all different types of topics, you know, in the episodes. And, yeah, it was. It was definitely vulnerable to open up and. And allow, you know, them to be around and to take them to some of these things. But, yeah, I'm. I'm excited. I haven't seen, like, the final cuts or anything, but, you know, I'm thankful for the people I met in the process and that there's, you know, this history of kind of the most difficult and the most rewarding year of my life kind of now to. To go back and look at in 20 years. Well, we appreciate you doing it. We can't wait to watch it. Shout out to the whole team at Religion of Sport, NFL Films, and everybody else that has collabed. I think Skydance is even in there, so. A lot of collabs. Yeah, a lot of collabs. Well, once again, there's NFL footage in it, so, yeah, NFL Films is certainly gonna be like, what? Make sure. Let's make sure this passes the sniff test real quick. Yeah, okay. We're not doing any of that, but congrats on that. I can't wait to watch it. I know a lot of us can't wait to see. How the hell are you going to watch it? You're the busiest human being in the world when you ain't going to watch it. So I'll download it. No, no, I'll watch it. I'll watch it. 3. There's three episodes, I believe, right? If I'm. If I'm learning right, three episodes, I'll don't. I'll download it before we get on a plane. I don't know if you've been having this issue. You have much. You've been traveling Internet on planes. Hasn't been working as of late. It's been tough. It's been sky. There's a lot going on. Yeah, there is. So I don't know if it's just our plane or what the hell is going on. So I would download. I would definitely watch it. I can't wait to learn more about you. You stand. There could be some interference in this guy everywhere, actually. Sh. What's causing that? I don't know. Yeah, there's a lot of. I don't know. Let's keep our eyes field though, okay? Everything ever doing a Dave Matthews song. Lazy. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Good luck the rest of the way. We'll talk to you next week. Happy birthday, brother. Thanks guys. Appreciate you. Hey, they don't make documentaries about nobodies. Especially people that don't know how to hold phones. Ladies and gentlemen. Air Rod. That's going to be cool. Yeah, that's going to be sick. Trailer. Trailer was fire for the good of the program, by the way. Two exclusive Trust. Yeah. Oh yeah. Pretty sweet. Shout out exclusive Tuesday shot the Netflix for allowing us to do that. Shout to NFL Films for allowing us to do that for Hard Knocks. I think what we're all excited about is there's about to be phenomenal content. Yeah, that Enigma thing is going to be insane. Yeah. We're going into an Ayahuasca thing. Yeah. Sign me up. Sure. No one's gonna have any thoughts on that either. I'm sure it's gonna clear it all up. Yeah, it should. Yep. Absolutely. Speaking of clearing it all up tonight, College football playoff rankings are released 7pm Eastern with Reese Davis and the boys. We'll be reacting to that and more tomorrow. Our show continues on ESPN Plus, YouTube and tick tock Live. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. All right, we'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Home run right there, boys. Seconds are getting slower. While I was looking at him, I'm like, wait, my second hand Ayahuasca time might be changing. The week after the Rogers thing as well. Show we all love Squid games is coming out as well. Okay, so I've thought about that. Are we gonna now that we kind of know what about Squid games? What? Oh, they said this next season is different level. Yeah. Way better not believe the guy. The guy who created it basically said like I almost like worked myself into like killing myself trying to outdo the first season so. Well, I'm happy to hear that because every once in a while there's a little cash grab for old number two. Yeah, no, I think it was o always envisioned as like a two season thing. And then obviously it's going to be massive and Netflix is going to say, sorry pal, we need another one. And he's going to say, I don't want to. I can't make it better. And they're going to say, well, figure it out. Exactly. And then we might lose this guy. Yeah. Potentially could run away with the reality game show though, because the Squid games reality game show. I enjoyed that. I Watched that. Yeah, except for the ending, but yeah. I mean, no one dies, so. Oh, rock, paper, scissors is a big deal. It was. It was stupid. What are you talking about? The one doofus had no idea that there were strategies. Well, I know, but I mean, did you hear about. Did you remember that? Do you remember the Squid Games reality show? Did you watch it? I only saw. I only saw a little bit of Squid Games. It ended with a military lady. Right. Yeah, my. My ex military lady who did some sort of, like, intelligence work playing against some guy. Right. I forget. Some doofus. Some guy idiot. Final two. And they're doing rock, paper, scissors. And if you win rock, paper, scissors, you get a good chance to get a key. And if your key works, you end being a winner. The guy openly, after just getting annihilated. Yeah. Goes. I didn't know there was strategy in this thing. It's like this lady was just like, all right, doofus, what are we doing? Yeah. All right. And he's like, he had no chance at all. But that's Squid Games. Football. Exactly. She was count. She was counting how many times he specifically used each one. Each one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was just getting worked. But that's Squid Games. Exactly. You have a strategy. You have rock, paper, scissors strategy. I throw a rock every time and I tell me you get to. Huh? I'll have to believe my trick. Yeah, exactly. There's my strategy. Boom. And then guess what's coming. The first two scissors. Not rock. No, rock. Yeah. Rock has to come. You gotta prove it. Rock has to come. Because, like, this is just like in. When I used to play cards. I don't get to play cards as much. Boy, those first 10 hands, I'm telling everybody what I got. And then I'm showing everybody what I got. And then we're moving on long. But now, for the rest of the rest of the night, what's this guy gonna do? This guy's not lying. Is he lying? There's no way. He's told us the truth a bunch of times. And then I'm always. I'll show you. I'll show you. Listen, I'm not lying to you. Listen, this is not the time for you to want to go, I got it. I got it. And then that's early in the night they call. It's like, what are you doing? I told you not to do it. I told you I got it, right? And now for the rest of the night, I got at least that guy. But everybody around wondering if same thing. Rock, paper, scissors. Same game. Same exact game. Okay, it's poker, but there's only three options and you can hold the nuts every single time. So you. I am. I'm telling you exactly what's coming. At least the first two times. But every once in a while. Okay, once every once in a while. You have to stick with rock the whole time because that's the rock you have to prove to this person you're not willing to lie right to their face. But every once in a while, bust a full on oopsies. Boom. Okay. You thought that was coming? Coming. Scissors is by far the weakest option. I mean, I absolutely. Scissor stinks. Scissors stinks. But it's the winner for me normally. Because everybody. Yeah, you're telling them you're going, rock. I'm doing rock. What do you think I'm. Wrap them up. The weakest option till you stab someone to heart with them. Well, that's what you do. Such a throat. Like AJ did the air. Hey, he's pissed at you. You're gonna get a side tech. Yeah. What a stupid question you asked him for what games did. He didn't like that. Good question. Like that. That. For now. For now. It's not in the cards. I guess maybe someday would you like to go on the record and say that he is going to commentate at least one game a year going forward or whenever he retires? No, I thought about that, but I thought like, what if, let's say Cal asked him to come do the spring game as. Hey, sit up in the spring game with us for, you know, do the color commentary for the first half or something. He may get there and he loves it and he's like, okay, here we go. You count that as a win? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Cal spring game. Yep. There it is. He counts if he. First time. Half. First half. See, in my head I was thinking like, Netflix has Christmas games. No, no, I meant. Yes, but I meant this would get him in. He would. This would like open. He'd be like, oh, I actually do want to do this. Let me go explore this. You know what? Up in the booth, it's pretty easy to tell what exactly what everybody's about to do, you know, because that's like he knows the defense. His big advantage, I think his quarterback and has been is he knows what the defense is doing. That's like his mo. And he does it by reading the D line nine in the front seven. That is how he views it. So I think as a commentator, that's what has to get set first on defensive side. So he's not looking for the offense. He's. He goes backwards, I think from what most people do. That's what made Ramos and a lot of great quarterbacks kind of start with the fronts that would be their tails with certain pressures and behind it. But that's why Romo was so hot out the gates. Oh my God, this guy's calling out all the plays. But like most times, quarterbacks know, okay, single high, got one on ones in the outside, split safety. Hey, tight end, where's the matchup note? So they can definitely limit down to two or three plays or concepts. That's probably going to come up and we're going to get to a point where that Amazon tracker of who's coming, who's not coming is going to be so accurate. Spot on. Yeah, it's going to get to. It's not a hundred percenter. It's got a ways to go. It does. It definitely is going to get better. But we assume it will. Like that is kind of the. Because it's still in its infancy. Once it has four or five years of like data and stuff like that, it'll be, yeah, it's going to start watching film on every defense just like quarterback backs do and it's going to start logging it downs, distance. Have you ever watched Prime Vision the Station? I watch it from the end zone. Yeah, they watch from the end zone view a lot and they had these dudes pop up and talk about different random stats or things that are happening. All those things I think are good for the production of the game. But I think we're going to get to a point where the main booth is going to be able to use that as opposed to having full on. It's going to become like a part of the main thing in the. I don't want to say younger generation because I assume Troy Aikman could figure it out. Sure, I respect. I got mad respect for the way Troy Aikman operates in the booth and obviously Herb street has his telestrator that he's really good with. But at some point the next generation of commentators and maybe Tony Romo will be the guy that is doing it. Just being able to drop all that shit in as if it's just a natural culture. All of the game with the speeds and the who's coming, who's not coming and telling the story without it being too much, you know, like a dash of it without it being over the top. Like this isn't a special feature. This is just how games Are called now. Yeah. Like, I. I'm. I'm excited to watch how that all evolves. Like, I'm very, very excited for that because there can definitely be too much. Yeah. At this point, I think that's, like. It's cool to check in on that, but at a certain point, it's like, okay, there's way too much going on on the screen right now. It almost feels like you're watching one of those Nickelodeon games where you just got, like, popping up and going. Bullshit. What are you talking about? Yeah, I mean, I'm not. I'm not the target demo for those games, you know, unless Lex Lumpkin's on the call. But they did away with. Where is Lumpkin? I don't know. I don't know what happened to Lump? Probably. There's gonna be something back. He's probably on stage. You know who's calling the Christmas game? Who? J. One of them. Right. He's calling the Steelers one. Oh, sweet. I'm excited to see how Netflix does with who? Burleson and an eagle, I believe. Ian or Noah? Ian. Okay, nice. I think. Which one's which? Father. Yeah, Ian's dad. The first. No. Is the boy who was with D. Wade at the Olympics. See, Ian instead of Ian. Feels like a boy thing. That's not a real name. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You can't spell it like that. And. No, it's pronounced ir. It's Ian. Well, what if we see it? What if he's right and everybody else is wrong? You know you would say that. What if his brother's Ian? What if Ian knows what he's doing and Ian has just been the wrong pronunciation. If we didn't know. And that was the first time I've ever seen I A, N, I, N. And that's what his. That's what his parents did. Oh, yeah. But that's what Noah's father's father said. Yeah, but. Yeah. If we didn't know words. If we didn't know the English language. I've been in the spot. Good luck arguing that one with me. With I. Yep. No, with just words. Just call them. That was. Wouldn't that be Wichita? Yeah. No, it depends on which eye you're trying to pronounce which way. Yeah. You know what I mean? Because I guess it could be watch like I. An eagle does. Obviously an eagle is going to be broadcasting a game. Let's assume there's a buck that's going to get on there. Without a doubt. Without a doubt. I hope I don't. No, the Little the boy talent. So I'm not going to judge this damn net, but boy. Yeah. What a water thing. It's weird how just it always works out. Yeah. New brought new platform. Brand new one. I don't mind when they're good, though. Bingo. That's what I'm saying. He's bad. Yes. I'm saying, yeah, they're good, but it's. You know. But they do. I mean, he's doing the fucking biggest game on NBC Big Ten, you know, the night game, every single week, like. And then probably have that job for 40 years, without a doubt. The only person. Yeah. There's only one we've ever had a problem with. No, I was. I wasn't going to say I had a problem, but like, they basically, like Jack Collinsworth did a couple of Notre Dame games and they were like, you fucking suck. Get off the broadcast. They had a whole season, didn't he? Yeah, but not who I. I mean, that's NBC primetime. So there's obviously another. I don't know. I think Jack. I think Jack. Great studio. I think he's good vibes. Yeah, I think Jack has good vibes. I think he's good traffic, too. He's good in and out. Because the way football night in America does, they're in two different sets. So, like, he's. Obviously, there's traffic and everything. Not everybody's better off to be in a booth like a football. Well, they blew up that whole thing. So, I mean, it was him and what? Garrett. Garrett, I think. And they're just like, all right, this is. This doesn't work prime time NBC, though. Yeah, but Garrett, I thought. I like him. I like Jason Garrett a lot. So do I. I thought. I thought he was great. He did the packers game on Thursday night. I like him a lot. So Colin games. You like him? I like. Don't mind him. He's great in studio. Phenomenal. Yeah, he's good at, like, quick sound bites if he needs. Because obviously they're potentially up against it. He's the last guy talking. So I know that what's probably happening in his ear is like, hey, 10 seconds here. And he's able to get a concise thought out. And then he's also able to lay some shit out. He's. He's phenomenal. Until. I think that was a phenomenal hire. Now, with that being said, Netflix, all their events in hires. I don't know how everybody has thought that it's gone thus far, but I think Christmas is going to be great. Amen. Always Ruin our Christmas. Christmas. Jade wall. Jade will be good. If I have to put a table through a window. And then my daughter's crying and my wife's crying and the whole family. And Christmas is ruined because of Netflix. Yeah. I believe Mr. H. Triple. Yeah. H. He said, Paul. Yeah. The game. The cerebral. The game. Of course. Yes. The king of Kings, the CCO of WWE. Mr. H, if you will. He. He was asked about the buffering with Netflix and because Raw is going obviously on the Netflix Live every single week. Huge deal. Huge ordeal. Live sports on there. Them get invested in the amount of money they spent. Good things. Good things selfishly for our show. Good things. Great, great things that they're doing that. But he said if it's buffering because there's 60 to 70 million people trying to walk much, we'll deal with it. With that being said, like, Netflix got to experience that now the NFL's coming. Gonna be gigantic. And the NFL has gone to places where I think they've always been like, hey, we're gonna help you out. We're gonna boost you up. We're gonna do that. Netflix, with their global and how many people they have on that platform, they're helping the NFL out a lot, too. Sure. In a lot of places. So Christmas is going to be gigantic. And I assume the booths are going to be good. Yeah. Games are going to be good, too. Yes, they are. Steelers, chafes, Texans, Ravens. Not bad. That's a great lineup. That's what we're talking about. And we talk about Hard Knocks, AFC North. That's. Yep. Right. Half the team's gonna be a part of. That's. That's good for Mox. You watching Mox tonight, 9:00pm Eastern. I tell you what, I. That exclusive clip that you got, like, I'm in. I'm all in. I not only I like. I'm like looking at everything I'm seeing. First off, I see, man, the Ravens facility is very nice. Nice cozy atmosphere. Like the. Like the cloth on the wall, it looks like a. A ski lodge or something. They called it a. They call it the Castle, their team meeting room. That's the biggest I've ever seen. And then you look at obviously the Bengals, you see a couple folding chairs on the side and it's like hole big. Now, Bengals is big compared apples to oranges. No, you look at the Ravens and then you have that hard cut to the Bengals. It's like these guys in a high school cafeteria. No, I wasn't gonna say that. But the Raven setup was awesome. It did look like a log cat. It's a castle, I guess. So. Sick. I don't know. Edgar Allen pose. They just turned one of the rooms. Yeah. Just one of the hallways into a team. That thing was beautiful. Large. Large. Yeah. The outdoor look. It looks like. It looked like a. Like a golf. Country club. Yeah. Steelers chairs a little tight. Yeah. They split their facility so they don't. They don't have as much space as everybody else. They didn't have the comfy chairs. They had like the old, like slide in chairs. Junior to. We don't want them to be comfy. Oh, you want them to fall asleep in there, like the loud house. Well, they're thriving or surviving. Yeah. Okay. That is the entire message. When you talk to the NFL films people, obviously they're very excited about, like, the stars. Like, there's so many stars. Like, you go from Mike Tomlin talking and Russell Wilson and Justin Fields are sitting there with Danny Smith, who might be up for assistant coach of the year with his own little desk there next to him. And then you cut and it's like, okay, there's Joey Burrow and Jamar Chase sitting right there. And Zach. And then you cut and it's like, hey, Derrick, Henry, Lamar, Jackson, John. Like the amount of names that are just. I don't know how they're going to do one hour. Exactly. Yeah. And the characters like Zay Flowers. He's hilarious. What's the Roquan Smith? And then you go to, you know, Trey Hendrickson, who knows what his, you know, entertainment value is, but, like, there are legitimate characters on every single team. Yeah. George Pickens. Are you kidding me? Everything that has happened, I think that he does get him mic'd up. Tj. He said he was just giving a first down signal, but it did appear as if he saw somebody in the crowd and shot him. But he said it was just first down. Just first. They misinterpreted, interpreted. I mean, if it kind of looks like you literally eyeballed one specific human and shot him in head or her in head. No, I was just first down. Say it, Connor. Go. You're gonna say it. I mean, if Mahomes got fined for what he did, Pickens is going to get a hundred grand for doing that. Oh, you're talking about when Patrick Mahomes did the double go. Yes, but that was just out Texas Tech. But I think the thing about him not only. Yeah, boom, bang, boom, bow taps his Tech record. Ra. They beat the hell out of West Virginia. Yeah. Minus two and a half but the. The double guns. I think the intent. He knows he was no scope. Sure. Oh, yeah. I think George Pickens. They said he did. Yeah, he aimed. Listen, if I know gp, he's not aiming. Yeah, he did have a little. He did have a little death turn inside. He had a side by side with him and somebody else did they. Was it the exact same thing? Was it a frozen frame? Because was there a person? Was it Josh Allen? I think it was. Yeah. It was the exact same thing. Yeah, it was Josh Allen. He found somebody in the crowd. Shot him in the head on a first down. Yep. Really? It might have been a little different. Found his bride to be and. Oh, he like Cupid. Yeah. Instead of a bow and arrow. Yeah. Sending love. Pew, pew, pew, pew. Yep. Point right at her. I think it's the extra finger. Well, I think it's the context of when you watch George. He actually found something. Is that what it. Is it just the fact that it was the conversation. I didn't know. I don't know. That's a good question. That's a good conversation. Nico Collins did it on Sunday and didn't get called for it. He does. He does it every game. Yeah. Once again, did he find somebody? I think the conversation is where on the fields. So you can just shoot up in the air, but you can't shoot directly at someone's face. I think intent of whether or not there was bullet coming out of fingers would have murdered somebody or if it was just a random spray. You know, if it's a random. If it's a you bang. I guess he did. Yeah. Just a little too much recoil. Yeah. I think it was too much re. Too much base in reality, you know. And they're big. Remember that was like the first three weeks we're not doing gun celebrations. They were some good ones. Josh there, man. So good out of his guy shot that dude who was laying on the ground. Shot him 30 times. Yeah. The South Carolina guy, Jackson dart. They pull machete out, start stabbing him. That's where everybody. No remember the one was when. Yeah. The guy lifts up his shirt, Brian Kelly's shuts it down to his face. No, no, no. LSU was certainly. Yeah, that was just it. Did it get him sideline? Yeah. Yes. And NFL was like up there. We're not done anymore. D3 would lost the game inside two minutes. Down by 20. The kid did that. And they're like, all right. On the back first down. I remember he strapped him up. He locked him down. He did. Strapped him up. He added the show. Yeah. NFL. Listen, we're not doing anymore. No more gun stuff. And George, like, I need one last one. You hear what this guy's saying? Recoil. Yeah. What if you were that poor person? What if you're that person in the crowd and you saw him make eye contact with you? You act like you guys. Oh, my God, that's. Yeah. Could you imagine you jump in front of your wife, you jump in front of your kids or something? No. I just saved your life. You have no idea. 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Actually, nothing right now. Why do we have them now because they've always done them. So they're just going to continue to do them. And there's people, obviously, I think it's good for fodder. And then I think Ohio State fans should like that. It goes 2 to 7, I think, in the AP poll. Now, does that have any bearing on 13 people in a room trying to make the College Football Playoff right ranking? Maybe we're not 100% sure. Maybe they take the APs voting seriously into account whenever they're doing their discussion. But what are your thoughts? What if a high state tonight is out 13? What if a high state is out of it tonight? AJ How. How are you going to handle it? Yeah, I mean, I think that would be a bit surprising, wouldn't it, if they are out of the top 12? Yes, it would be. I'm just trying to get a good feel for where we're at. How, how shocking that would be because that would be a bit surprising. Yeah, I would say that'd be pretty disappointing if Ohio State dropped out of the top 12. And then are they going to set up and make the decision already about the SEC and the ACC this week? Are they going to push this off until next week when everything really matters after the conference championships? Like, are they going to make a decision tonight to figure out and answer the question about Ole Miss, Alabama, South Carolina, acc, second team? Are they going to tip their hand on what they're going to do next week when it actually matters? I mean, all TBD well. And like how much is really going to change? Because you would assume that the teams that are already in the conference championships, the big ones, like the Big Ten in the sec, like those four you assume are in. So like aside from the teams that like Clemson, for instance, that's not in the top 12, but they're playing in their conference championship? Like, how much? So Joe Tessitor said numerous times, love Joe, numerous times, yeah, for a win and a spot in the College Football Playoff during that eight overtime game against Georgia Tech. And I think I was watching and I'm very lucky to be privy to a lot of conversations about college football because of game day and everything like that. And I'm like, is that been decided? Like, I actually sent a couple of texts, I'm like, hey, did I have. I miss. Have they come out and said like, hey, you make the conference championship, you're good like that? Have they come out and said that? I don't think they have. So every time Tessitor said that in this Electrifying Yeah. Electrifying game on Friday night. I mean, it was hard to fall asleep. It was hard not to stay glued to it. And there's some people, I guess, that don't like the shootout, the back and forth two point conversions that took place. It was like a buzzsaw of action. And there had golden goal implications. And obviously the anxiety was high for both sides for a long time. I assume everybody was exhausted after eight overtime game. And even though there wasn't as many plays as there could been in the past and that many overtimes, it's like emotionally it's like ah. And then it stop or you need to score ah, then you get it. It was like that was awesome. That was cinema sick. But every single time Georgia was about to win, Tessitor was just saying spot the College Football Playoff. And I guess that's just to be expected. But if Georgia loses to Texas, all of a sudden they have multiple three loss. They're out now they're. Are they in the. I'm not saying Georgia doesn't deserve a spot. I'm just saying you make championship, you should make. That is how I feel. And that is how the committee has, you know, kind of talked as they stress the championships matter. The championships matter. Well, then making it to the championship should matter. But if you make it to the championship and you add another loss to your resume, is that going to be held against you whenever you do The College Football Playoff committee, and we would hope that that would be no. But the reality of the situation is it definitely will get held into account in the entirety of the conversation. If they lose, I think Georgia's okay. But if they get blown out like the way that Tess was talking was. It was guaranteed. But like if. If it looks bad for Georgia, I test and then the quarterback, Arch Manning is quarterback like football. What's that? I'm saying the quarterback doesn't like football. Do they take that into consideration? I think they do. What are you talking. Here's the video football. If we could pull up, please. If he could resend it back. Back in there. He works too hard. He's not upset. The guy can't just watch football stressed out. He. He needs to study what's going on on the defensive side. I don't like the way you phrase that right there about Carson Beck and I don't like that a quarterback doesn't like football. Well said. Well, come on. This clip. This clip. Tone ran it this morning. D. Butch was what, 10ft away? Yep. I don't think he was even in the vicinity of the video running, heard it. He goes, take him off the draft board. I don't want it in. Carson Beck gave an interview. I was at a press conference. He was asked about watching Texas, Texas A and M, and if he learned anything with the way the schedule worked. You know, you got to sit there and watch Texas, Texas A and M on Saturday night. Was there anything, you know, that stood out to you? Maybe that was different that you picked up from watching Texas defense? Yeah, well, I don't watch football, so I know that sounds kind of fun. I really enjoy watching football. It's not fun for me. But then he said, I watch film. So, like, I'll explain for a second what I mean by that. Like, so if I watch that game, like, I'm not just going to be able to sit there and enjoy it. I'm going to stress myself out. The whole entire time I'm watching the defense. I'm like, okay, why this coverage on this down? I'm like, why did he throw it there against this coverage? Like, you know, and I mean, but you can learn from watching. It's. It's stressful for me because I don't ever give myself a break whenever it comes to football. But no, I mean, I've watched the film back, obviously now afterwards, knowing that we're going to be playing Texas in the SEC championship. But no, I mean, their defense is really good. They have a lot of talent on defense, and their defensive coordinator does a good job of putting them in good positions to execute and play at a high level. Very accurate statement. I think Texas defense is like one or two in literally every single stat. Very, very dominant. They've been able to replace pieces that left and went to the NFL and everything like that. But he explained he. He's too. Like AJ Said, he's too diluted. Yeah, he can't just watch. He has to nitpick and understand why things are happening. He likes football too much, I think is what he was saying. Yeah, that was good explanation. I don't know. I just. I've been around a bunch of quarterbacks, Good ones, bad ones, okay ones, the great ones. I've been around. Never heard him say, I don't really watch football. If I do it, I'm too. I'm too locked in. I'm too. We could ask Aaron about, you know, what's going on in college football. He's in the middle of the season. Brady Peyton, like, all. But, hey, to each his own. Hey, these kids are different, you know, And I'm not The guy who, like, hey, if you got any other interest outside of football, I don't want you on the team. You're not watching 10 hours of film. I'm not. Definitely not that dude. But sounds like that to come out, say, hey, sounds like he said, I watch tv. I watch film. Yeah, I watch film. You watch the highlights. If he shows up and. And beats Texas ass, it. It doesn't matter. Again, which has already happened, which was a big part of the conversation for the whole College Football Playoff, because Texas, who they beat, who they. Who they beat, A be inbo. They play one good team, and that team came into their house and beat them. Then they go to Texas A and M, get a massive win. Yeah, they beat Oklahoma. So if we want to do the, you know, who beat Alabama, who beat Georgia? So, I mean, if you want to jumble it all together, Texas got a couple pretty good wins. Texas, hey, Nick Saban said at SEC media days, who's going to be in the SEC Championship? He said, Georgia and Texas. And he got a lot of shit. Remember? Because that was before they even named it Saban Field. It was still a part of the whole thing. Like, oh, he's already turned into a talking head. Like, people in Alabama weren't thrilled about it. I think we were even like, damn, you could have just said, you can. That would have been just an easy way to kind of get through your first SEC media days. But instead, he's like, I look at the talent, I look at the roster, I look at film. This is two best teams. This is two best. And lo and behold, here they are. And I think they're both safe, obviously, for the College Football Playoff, especially with how the year has gone. But every time Tess said, yeah, it's scary. That was. He might have his WWE hat on, though, when he's doing that. He is on Monday night. Roll. Exactly. There's a chance. Drew McIntyre. Drew McIntyre. Big return last night. It's awesome. Claymore. I didn't know him well. There's only one person that does the Claymore. Yeah. Okay. There's only one Claymore around town. Not two Tree. Not three. What, four Claymore. Oh, I thought it was three. I didn't know. Typically is. But, you know, a night with a triumphant return like that, I think it calls for one additional claimer kick. I'll tell you what, I saw the back of him and the hood was up and everything. And, you know, the natural thought in wrestling is, is that. And then obviously, yes, immediately. But that guy's a barn. He Is. He's so jocked. Yeah, just a jock Scottish man. Almost at Seamus's level. Well, Seamus got the Celtic warrior workouts. I don't know if you've seen those. Those have been going. Yeah, yeah. Saw them. Do it. With whom? Who was his last one? I'm not. The last thing I saw him do was slip and fall, but he. He handed it like an absolute. It was with J. Cargill and they did her like ab. Work is absolutely. I can't wait. He's sitting in the. In the room with the Fighting Irish football team, waiting to see where they're selected on selection day. Yeah. Well, if he can make it from Georgia Tech. Well, he knew those Georgia Tech lads were going to fight the way they fought against Georgia. He might be. At this point. He might be in George's huddle. He could. He's. If they want a little boost. They should. We miss you, Seamus. Why they do. Why they do Biggie like that Last night, I didn't like that. I read the longest thing I have ever read in my whole life. Wow. Okay. My whole entire life, it has been talked about. I think Dan Patrick mentioned it today. I have never read a book. Okay, sue me. That's on me. Never been able to get through front to the back. Did the whole school thing. Obviously, everybody did. There's books that are required. Did a quick. Hank, can you summarize what happened there? That bomb gets it in there. I understand what's happening in the books. Okay. I get it. Never been able to sit down. I scroll a lot. I read a lot on a daily basis, but quick. This thing's quick hitters. I'm not gonna. I read his players tribute article yesterday. Yesterday took me, I think, 33 minutes, 34, 35. Like, anywhere between 30 to 35 minutes to read this whole thing. I was 12 minutes in, and he was 19 years old and he was in Iowa, and I didn't know I was 13 minutes. I got down. I scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll. Score. He wrote this whole thing. I look up at the clock, I'm like, holy. Where's the time go? I can see how people get lost in books. Oh, yeah. I. You know, I've never. I've never even thought about reading. Reading a book. But after reading Big E's Player Tribune, I'm like, I can see how you get lost in there and just keep going. Because I was not going to stop until I got to the bus. There was numerous times where I'm like, that's got to be it. And then. Nope. We got another chapter that we're about to open up. But it was phenomenal. And then for that to happen last night from Kofi and Xavier woods and in front of the world, after reading his whole life story, I was heartbroken. Will he ever be medical here? Well, they poked fun at that, didn't they? Yeah. Go back to your desk. He said, I want to be here with you guys, motivating. Inspect what we've done. Get the out of here. Yeah. Right to his face. Yeah. Up, man. Especially if you read his life story like I did just hours before that. Don't cast this guy aside, please. No. Yeah. Hawkeye. He is a. Hawkeye is one of the good ones. We'll always have a spot for him back home if he wants to come back. Well, actually, that's a big part of the story. When he wasn't a part of the team, but he was still in Iowa, they let him work out in the gym. Boom. When he worked out in the gym. Then he met somebody, was able to work out, got bigger. They end up with the connection. Like, Iowa took care of him. We always do. That's what the story that I read yesterday for 30 some minutes told me. And then last night, New day rocks. No more. New day stinks. New day stinks. New day sucks. New day sucks. It's probably what's coming right down the pipe. Should be. I wouldn't mind. You're sad. Me neither. They need to get that pool noodle that guy has. Smack them. Both of them. No helmet. Oh, easy. That's what I'm talking about. I get captivated by those streams. I started watching them. I'm just like, these guys lives. They're just doing. There's a Truman Show. 30 days I'm watching Kai. Just Truman Show. That's what I'm watching. It's nuts. Old buddy. Spider man guy doesn't sleep. Miles. Yeah. See Miles. What a guy. He goes hard. What an interesting guy. Goes hard on the paint. I mean, he really causes quite a. Quite a bit of chaos whenever he's around, you know. That's a boom. Yeah. Kevin Hart almost lost a helmet there. Boom. Good swing last night. Yeah, there was. And then I saw, I think, you know, Internet people kind of got exposed last night or whenever that celebration took place. Somebody said, what was this? It was like, you have not been paying attention at all to the Internet and what's going on. Kai and team over there. Hey. Everywhere. Crushing. Truly got to be so goddamn electrifying to have a camera. You and people want to Watch nothing but mad respect and the way they're doing it at such a young age. Way go, bro. Fun to watch. I watch that Drew Ski and Kevin Hart, what a combo. When they're around Drew Ski just getting to the tipping point there was awesome. That drummer throwing the drum set dud. I can't take it anymore, he said. And then all of a sudden he's going to put it back up. All right, I'm out of it. It was amazing. Amazing. I'm a big fan anyway. Speaking of being a big fan, guy joining us now is one of the leading voices in the NBA. Hell yeah. He's. He's handsome, he's young. He's a senior NBA insider at espn. Ladies and gentlemen, Shams. How you doing, pal? I'm good. People really want to be on Kai's stuff. Kyrie Irving literally flew out to LA on Thanksgiving to do his show to do a stream. What was it called? Mafia Thon 2.0. And the next, I guess later that night or the next day, he's at practice the next day for the Dallas Mavericks. Late morning. So I think my favorite dedication, that's respect. Definitely mad respect and, you know, good for Kyrie. I think he crushed it. Crushed. Yeah. I'm sure he enjoyed it. They were dancing. He got Kyrie dancing again. I mean, it's. It's good content. My favorite. He is an actor. Hey, call the phenomenal stuff. My favorite thing about it is when he took the wrapper off the bottle water, it was like, these people. I don't drink this water. Nobody needs to know that. Yeah, let me throw that away. And it's like that was his immediate thought too. Like, no chance am I doing that. Hey, good stuff. Anyway, so let's go to the NBA. What the hell's going on over there? I haven't heard anything. Have I heard anything about the NBA? No. Have you heard anything? Have you heard anything? No. Celtics are running the title, but I haven't heard that. I just know that I heard T. Tyrese Hal. Right. Halliburton's all the way back. What? I think BC cashed all his checks in the day Kristas Porzingis came back. I think BC was mentally already looking at a championship trophy score. 51 points in a quarter. Someone else do that? Prove it to me. No one else can. It's the Celtics League and it will be forever. Yeah. And he said, eyes on. Championship started then. You gotta remember he sits next to it every single day. I kiss this thing every single day. Really? Yeah. Ty, you Know that he's trophy though. Is that. Is that his gold? Bitch, I don't think that's gold. Pure gold. I don't think. I don't think that's gold. Anything happening in the NBA that we need to know what's going on. Hold on. I did see something. Zion Williamson got a whole new back tattoo. Yeah, that's awesome. You remember that? That was not the conversation though, about that video. Everybody said sweet back tattoo also. What's going on here? What is going on right now with our guy Z? Zion. Zion, Is he playing? I know Bact looks sweet. Everything else everybody was talking about, but what was he. What's going on with Zion down there? Zion Wilson's been out, I believe since around the first week of November. I think November 8th, November night. I can't. I don't have around that early November time period. He's still out. It's about a month later, a little under a month later. He's not close to coming back. He's not gonna be back this week. He's not gonna be back next week. Jesus Christ. The good news for the Pelicans for I'm told he did start to get on the basketball court over the weekend. They were in New York for a game against the Knicks on Sunday. So he got on the court, but very, very light activity from what I was told. And this is going to be a gradual. We know about the steps, the warm up, the warm up. Two on twos, three on threes. Get him through his progression. You know, it's. It is. It is tough for Z though, because he came into the season, guys, he's the lightest, he's weight since his rookie year. He came in great shape and, and to have him hurt already and that hamstring, it's been a chronic issue for him. He's had multiple hamstring strains over the last few years, so he can't catch a break. He's out. We'll see exactly when he's going to be back. Is it going to be at the end of this month? It's going to be into January. The Pelicans don't know. And the other issue that they have now, hold on. Before we move on to any other issue, let's finish up Zion here and I appreciate you having other news and we'll definitely get to that. Zion with the hamstring, he's so explosive. You. No, he's not in shape. What, like soft tissue? Like, you got to be in shape. You got to. Professional video. You got to be Proactive and staying away from that. Like, come on, you're too young to have. What. What's his contract? Do they have an out as a team going forward with his contract? They. There are ways where if the Pelicans were to wave him come off season, you know, potentially. Yeah, they would be able to do that for free. That. I don't believe that. Not something. Table that. As of right now, Republicans have no intention to wave Z win. They want to figure out a way anyway to. To find the people around Zon to do anything to get him to be on the court. That's their number one objective. You don't want to wave a guy that early and then he goes out somewhere else and he's healthy. Because we know when he's on the court, even this year, the numbers he puts up, he impacts winning. He just has not been on the court. He has not been optimized the right way for the Pelicans because he simply just is not on the court. So that tattoo video. So every time I will. I will say that video, from what I understand, that was a video that was taped in the off season, I'd hope before he got in shape. Okay, good. I will say this. It. It did take place, from what I understand, in the off season, not recently. Okay. That's a big deal. I would like to let that be. No. Yeah, because he from that time to, you know, because anytime he goes to media day before the season, and I'm a massive Zion fan. Actually, the day before COVID happened, I introduced the Pelicans, the entire starting lineup down the blender down there in New Orleans, strictly because on the Internet, I was so loud about Zion not being the last person introduced. Like, the only reason you guys are on national TV is because this guy is on your team and they introduce him like second or third or something. I'm like, let the guy come out last, you know, like, what are we even doing here? So that started a relationship with me and the Pelicans. I go down there. That's how big of a fan I am. As I am, because I've said this before. I've been watching him since he's what, like 13, 14 years old, just dunking, doing shit that just like, oh, my God, this is freak show. A special design friendly show. This is a Zion friendly show. Everyone wants him on the court. The league meet. We would love for him to play the Pelicans. We as fans. Any basketball fan, you want to see a guy like that play, he is really one of one. I Mean, I, I, I remember his rookie year. That was a conversation, right? A guy that 280 plus pounds, a guy that's 66 and can jump and move and play way above that size from a height perspective. And the way he's able to move his weight and get off the ground, like, no one does it the way he does it still. He just has not been able to. That's the issue, though, because he's been able to do all that at the weight, there's really been no repercussions for any of his other stuff. Like, you can be a little bit, you know, he's probably a little bit more laxadaisical with the dieting. Laxazical. Lacks a gazelle or whatever the hell he said. I see what he did there. I see what he did lacks ago. Laxado. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You did see and hear what he did there, but, yeah, Yes. I think that maybe he got away with a lot of stuff because of how athletic he was. It happens in football, too. This happens in professional sports. At some point, though, you got to get to the, okay, I got to be a pro. Like, I, I got to be a pro. And I think that's what you were saying. Whenever they're like the Pelicans League, everybody just wants people around him that want him to be great, be a pro, basically, is like, kind of the, the message here. I don't know what team they can assemble of trainers, of staff, of someone they need to figure out a way to get. Zion, Come on, Zion. Whatever. Whatever they have been doing over the last five years of his career or whatever it is at this point, like, it has not worked to a highly. Oh, yeah. And I'm sure it'll flip like that and work now. Okay, what's your problem? Why are you so. Why don't. I mean, how many, how many excuses are we gonna make for this guy? Like, when it's basically like, hey, we need to go out and hire Doogie Howser. That's the only way we can keep him healthy. Guess what? It ain't happening, okay? The guy can't do it. He might need to go somewhere else. It's just the way it is. It's just the way it is. I want to see him play, too, but I'm sick and tired of this happening. Every. Zion tweaks, Tweaks his hamstring. Oh, no. He's gonna be out for six months. He's gonna be out six. There's just, you know, there's just no way we can get this Guy back right now, he's just, you know, he's got a one on one. Yeah. One on ones. Two. One. Two on one. Well, this is the thing. Injury. What's that, buddy? It's a. It's a four to six week injury, but the pelican said indefinitely because they. With Z, you don't know. Could it be earlier? He's not a alien, he's a human being. What do you mean you don't know? This is the fifth year this has happened. No. Jesus Christ. You just want to see him play. Just want to see the guy play. Yes. Joke man. Get on the court. It's all we want. The fucking joke. We would love it if you were just on the court. They don't know that. First picture. First picture of media day is always a big one for us. Yeah. Whenever they put up a picture of Zion at media day, we're always like, how you look, John? He had the beard. Yeah. And I think they even like a little bit of broke a sweat. A little bit. Had a little glistening going on. And it's like, hold on. Zion's in shape, then he gets hurt, then he's out. Then that tattoo video drops in. It's like. Like what? Wait a minute. Not great timing on that tattoo video, by the way, for something to be filmed in the summer to drop while you're out. And your team. This team. What are they, 4 and 17 right now? Jesus Christ. They fucking. No thoughts of moving on. Get rid of it. I know Brandon Ingram, he just. He just. Well, so hold on. I think there. I think that's potentially what you were going to get into. What. What else is the other things happening with the New Orleans Pelicans and also son come up here to Indiana. Exactly. Sure. Change it. Change of. Change of scenery. You think he needs Kilroy breadsticks and his. Listen, there's good food here. Good e. There's good eats here. It sounds like he needs to just go because the team doctor for the pelicans is from 1745. Let's maybe get a guy who knows about modern medicine. Like, well, you know, we could try. They have had so many guys injured this season. They've had like. It's. It's like. Exactly. It's like a hospital. They used to do that too. It's a joke. Six guys at one point out. Like, it's. So what else is that? What's going on? This team stinks. Dude, that was good call. That was a good call. Good show. It's a good show. Good show. Just need that. What else were you about to say before you wanted. You just wanted to move past all that? Yeah, it. And the part is you guys got some more information out of that conversation. Right? Like people didn't know that. That. That fact to the one that we saw that was from the summer also. There's not going to be a Zion Williamson waiver. They. They need to figure out how to get him on the court. But also this whole Pelicans roster, they've had so many guys in and out. You can make the case from an on paper perspective, this is the most talented roster the Pelicans have ever had. The problem. Problem. None of them are able to have consistent health. Dejounte Murray, he's out. Herb Jones, he's been out a significant time. The Young Cliffs. Jordan Hawkins, he's been out. C.J. mcCollum, he's out. Zion Williamson, he's out. Brandon Ingram, he's out. With the calf injury, I do think Brandon Ingram, Herb Jones potentially back on Thursday. So now you're somewhat whole. But you still have John Williamson and Jose Alvarez. Alberto with. With cap with hamstring injuries. And so there's. They have so many injuries. I'm like, calf hamstring. We don't know what it is. So those two guys are still out. But Brandon Ingram's future, I think between now and the February trade deadline, is he going to sign a contract extension or is he going to get traded? He's in the last year of his deal, $36 million. He just made an agency change. And when a player changes an agency in the last year of his deal, what are you trying to accomplish here? And when Brandon Ingram. I think his future is in greater focus now. And I believe these conversations with him are going to heat up between now and January. Will it be an extension or will it be a trade? That's what the future is for Brandon Ingram, he's a guy, from what I'm told, he wants to win, he wants to compete. The problem is this team is not doing that right now. We still have not seen them fully healthy this season. Brandon Ingram, phenomenal. Vibes and altitudes. Right when I saw him. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. I'm a big fan. Same guy. We'd like him to come to the pace. Let him come to Indiana. No one wants to do that either. What's that? He wants to win. He wants to come to Indiana, play for the Pacers. Yeah. Where'd he go from? Because didn't Zion change agencies too? Zion Williamson changed agencies. He. He went somewhere and Then he went to William Morrison Devers and then. And then. And then Brandon Ingram, he went to Clutch Sports with Rich Paul. So you make a move like that, where he's going, and I think everyone understands there's some business that's going to be handled too. Could be anywhere. I think Rich kind of just runs the whole thing. You know, remember he was calling people, don't draft them. Yeah. He's not going to come. So you want him to go play in Australia? Okay. Yeah. All right, go ahead. Turns out there's no chance he's doing that. Well, that's supposedly. Supposedly as part of the game. As part of the game. Okay, let's talk about Rich Paul and La D Botch. Got a question for you. Yeah. The face of the league, one of the great, greatest of all time, LeBron James. I've seen a lot, you know, obviously we're in middle football season, seen a lot about his struggles from three point, what, 20 missed threes in a row. What's, what's going on with Bronbra right now? Just in a tough stretch. I mean, he said it last night, right? He's off offensively. He is, he's bad right now. And he said it himself, he's not making threes at a high level. The prior night, 27 points, I think 14 assists in Utah on a back to back, you know, good numbers. He did shoot, you know, shot 12, 28 from the field. So not the efficient LeBron that we're used to the year after year. We're used to seeing Great field represent 55% from the field, 58% from the field. He hasn't been as efficient. His on off numbers are the lowest they've been throughout his whole career. When you, when you look at it statistically, this is one of his down seasons. There's no, no question about it. I think the offense, they need to make sure Anthony Davis is back at the orbit of the offense. His usage rate over the last five to seven games has been very low. You can't not have the ball. You can't not. You can't have the ball out of Anthony Davis's hands in the fourth quarter of these games. Anthony Davis needs the ball in his hands and so they need to get back to playing around Anthony Davis, Anthony Davis stepping up and having a fluid offense. We've seen LeBron James have a pretty heavy usage in the fourth quarter. And also you saw JJ Reddick speak about it last night. LeBron James has a goal of playing all 82 games. He has a Goal of playing these back to back. They're on a back to back in Utah. On Sunday the team lands in Minneapolis like 3:34 in the morning to ice, you know, to deplane by the time you're in bed, you have a game the next day. I wonder are the Lakers going to reevaluate that situation allowing LeBron James to continue to play back to backs, Are they going to look to manage him a little bit more at the age of almost 40 years old, do you remember like just talking about they get paid a lot of money so nobody feels bad. But landing at 3:30, not going to bed till 5:36am that sucks. Especially as a 40 year old. I couldn't, you know, Minneapolis for real. Just the process of getting off plane in car, travel to hotel, then check into hotel, go to room, set up room. Right. Because we need to plug in. Yep. We need to do the entire thing and sleep. That is just a miserable probably hour and a half there after landing. No doubt. Once again they paid a lot of money. Deal with it. But that is the NBA world. Yeah. You're 22 so yeah. That is probably get, you know, so pissed off when Mosiah's out for six months with a me. Yeah. Cuz you know, 40 year old Bron trying to play 80, 82 games like well Jesus Zion football. I'm bump. Jalen Brown also said last night when you're, when the, when you're, when your best players don't play back to backs, it's hard to be a great team. I don't know who he's throwing those shots around that, but who's he throwing those shots at? Who's that at? Who do you think that's at, Sean? We don't, we don't follow the NBA enough. Who would he be talking Last night Jimmy Butler sat on the second night of a back to back. We know Joel Embiid was very vocal about sitting back to backs this season. Only person who knows is Jay lebron. I don't know. Well, to be fair, Jerry Butler clearly wants to get the out of that dump. LeBron miss what? Hey, LeBron missed 20 straight threes. That's what we're saying. I think he's at 19. What is he, is he at 20 or 19? I saw 26 away from the record with what is held by Grant Williams I believe at 25. Okay, so we'll say 20. He's going to make his next one, so this ain't going to be a problem. We, we are big fans of LeBron over here. That guy has been a professional athlete for as long as I have memories. Like even because he was a professional athlete. He was like a 13 year old. He was doing the entire thing. So with that being said, Shams, just a non NBA player. 20 NBA threes. How many should one hit, you think? Just non NBA player. I not M. I mean five to eight. Okay, so we'll go seven. We'll go seven there. Seven. I mean, that's a pretty good field goal percentage. Nine. Okay, so we'll say it's not bad. We'll say. No, no, no, no, no. That's tough. Let's go seven. Seven's good. That's just common. Common citizen. Because we're talking shooter. I mean, Foxy's a good shooter. Foxy's a great shooter. Okay, so we'll go eight, eight, nine. Eight and a half. Eight and a half was the overrun. Okay, 8.5. All right, so Foxy, will you shoot 20 NBA threes right now? Yes, sir. Okay, so if you hit over eight and a half. Oh, I like that number for Sham Sharania, you know, senior NBA insider, ESPN 45% we'll give. That's really good shooting, right? That's a really good leading NBA. Exactly. That's tough. That's tough. That's putting a lot of burden on my guy right there. Okay. 30 people will win $500 if Foxy is able to hit over eight and a half NBA threes out of 20 shots. I think you just shoot two from all five spots and then go back. So you hit four in this corner and then you'll hit two everywhere else. Okay, here we go. Sean, I don't know how busy you are and if you need to, if you want to stick around and watch or if you need to head out, either or is all good. All Foxy has to do is hit over eight and a half NBA threes here. Out of 20. All right, all right, warm up. It's a warm up. This. Okay. Oh, no. He's got to go 8 for 18. I. I think that's a good. Oh, no. Come on now, Fox. No, there it is. There you go. There you go. He's one for four. Evan Fox out of Michigan, two for five. It's all right. It's okay. Hey, we're still in a good spot on pace. Currently two for six. Has to hit seven more. Has to hit six more. Okay. Got nothing but time, brother. Yeah, I got that was down. Where are we at right now? Okay, there's four. Boom. Do Corner. Tough corner. Doing its thing. Thing. Give it to him in the pocket, bro. What is that? Six, five, five and ten. Five. He's currently hit five. Hey, Bruce. AJ said better passes. Oh, yeah. Come on, Bruce. Five of 11. Snap them off, Bruce. Here we go. That's a big one. He's got it. He's got it. Foxy trying to hit over eight and a half NBA threes out of 20 shots. All right, we're here. Currently sitting at five. These are size 31 waist. Big shot, big shot. Six of 14. That's six or seven. Six has to hit three more shots. He's got five left. Boom. Huge shot. Ladies and gentlemen, if Evan Fox is able to hit, ladies and gentlemen, that's eight. If he makes the this, he is at nine out of 18. Currently shooting at a 50% clip from NBA three. Oh, gotta make that, gotta make that. I mean, especially with the way we were celebrating. Bang. Oh, nine is the right number. Congratulations. Foxy. Surprised me. 30 people, $500. All you gotta do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody and put the easiest way to pay you. That's all. Because our friend Sham Sharania put an X in line out and Evan Fox went in. Splash tag should have been so much better, to be honest. Agreed. That was some of your worst shooting that I've ever seen. But the winners win. 30 of them, 500 bucks. We appreciate you. We appreciate you, Shams. Have a good one, brother. One more tidbit. One more tidbit. Dean Wade of the Cleveland Cavaliers, he's been out for the last several games. Games. He's been out for the last few weeks, a couple weeks with an ankle injury. I believe he will be back in the lineup tonight. The Cavs are 130 with him in the lineup. They are right Now, I think 17 and 3. 18 and 3. So this is a team that's 130 with him, and if my math is right, 5 and 3 without him. But he will be back tonight. Dean Wade of the Cleveland. God love Dean Wade basketball. Dean Wade County, Cleveland, you know, over there, the. The entire Cleveland area is pumped about that because this Cavs team's a real deal. Browns lose all. They're rolling. They are. They're rolling. I don't know. I don't know. BC has any. Any fear in his heart about Cleveland. What are you talking about? You know, we played Cleveland, do you recall, last year? And you played him this year? Yeah. We'll see what happens down the road. Let's see what happens when we get to the playoffs. They had a big win. Big win. I mean, you can't deny it. Donovan Mitchell went off on huge win. Bad call at the end of the game. But once again, you know, we. We'll see what happens if they have the legs to actually last, which they don't. Did I see a clip where Donovan Mitchell say he's blind out there? He's got the James Winston thing going. Pretty Lasik. Do you see that? Ah, I did. I saw that. Yeah. I think he's like LeBron shooting at three rims. Yeah. He said he glasses, contacts. He can certainly see better, but he can't shoot as well. So he. He goes out there with bad eyes. Supposed to be worried about this team. Yeah, I think you should. A guy can't see the hoop. I don't think so. That's great. I think I saw it on a podcast. You saw the same thing? Yeah, I saw it. Yeah, he said that. I did not see it. Shams, we need you to get to bottom of it. How many blind basketball players are out in buckets? That's phenomenal, Ladies and gentlemen. Shams. Yeah, I had those glasses on. It was like. Yeah, I see really good right now. When Channing with Crowder, I think he was talking to Channing Crowder and the crew. Was it the pick pivot? I'm not positive. I feel like I saw Channing, like, you know, react to that, to his state. Could have. Yeah. Okay. So it was on the pivot. Yeah, he. I. The way I listened and heard it was he. He can't see. It is very. So he's saying he currently needs Lacy. He doesn't want it. Doesn't want it. He wants to play blind. He plays blind. Like, that's how he plays. He said, contacts definitely make me have better vision, but I can't shoot with it. So he just. He's out there and he said, you know how LeBron said that one time that there's three hoops. He shoot for the middle one. I guess he said the sim. That's why he got brought up. And then Ryan Clark. Oh, yeah, it was Ryan Clark. Because then Ryan Clark took some shots at LeBron about. He was lying, is what Ryan Clark said to end the clip, which obviously started its own world in of itself. But the guy's blind shooting. He's. He's lighted up. Light it up, bucket. That's. That's insane. You guys gotta be worried about that. Not even. Not even a little bit, brother. We got the best team in the league by a lot. I Mean, there's. I didn't even think about this. Foxy's blind too, remember? Oh, yeah. He can't see Very blind. A guy can shoot. Yes, he can. Not today. You at the O. You got it done. Yeah. I mean, I still won. Foxy wins a win. Warm up. Fresh out of ch. Come on, stop talking. Poor on yourself, Fox. That's right. Be careful what you say about yourself. You're listening. Yeah. Bang. Let's get the hell out of here. Fingers are pointing back at you, brother. Well, he would be doing this right here. We don't exactly ten coming right at you. That would hurt. It would. Especially if you do it all day, every day. Foxy, you hit the over, pal. Who cares? Yeah, you're right. Good work, Fox. And we have a championship right now. So Senior NBA. You're right. See, I don't like what I just saw, but got him out of the system. Okay, good, good. There it is. Senior NBA insider says good number for somebody. Eight. Eight. He said we go above that eight and a half and you hit the over. That's senior NBA insider speaking, bud. You're the guy. I'll take you, Fox. Thank you. I think five would lead the NBA. Can s can shoot, right? Actually can shoot. Well, I shouldn't have said that. That sounds very rude. I did not mean it that way. But when we saw him, we were all surprised. Then whenever he shot, we all went, whoa. Ch be hooping. No, you can say that. Do be hooping, don't he? You should see the w ball get warm. Oh yeah. Well, he's general manager bas. He can dunk from the free throw line stroking. He's doing a double pump logo with the tongue Kirkj. Kirkj. Can. I think he still throws high 90s. He does. What was that? Kirkjin. Kirkjin. Tim Kirkjin. Is that right? Is he here? I don't know if he's here or not. Well, yeah. That good. Go on. What AJ saying. Because he's just being an obviously dick. Kirk doesn't have a 95 mile an hour fastball anymore. He's 54 and he weighs 115 pounds. You think a guy like that's throwing 95, Ty. You're right, Ty. You're right. I don't know if you're that sized body is able to capable or capable to produce enough force to be able to do that. Baseball is happening right now though, Ty. I heard Rob Manford, obviously that's commissioner of the mlb said you know, you might have a chance just put somebody into hit Whenever you want. What's going on here? I like what. Baseball's becoming a state fair. I'm all for it. This is state fair. Yeah. It's cool. This is the most Mickey Mouse thing. What happened to baseball, you know, let's do a golden it bat. So at any point in the game, you know, no matter where you're at in the order, you can just say, nope, we want our Big Bopper to come up. Great idea. What is this? T ball. Get the out of here. Jesus Christ. Rob Manford. What are you doing? What do you mean? He was just floating it out there. Cool gold bat for whoever goes up there. So can Ohtani hit twice? So let's say Ohtani hits first, he hit second, then boom, boom. I would assume it's a ghost runner. You got to remember it's not Ohtani, though. They would say this is Shohei Gold Donnie. He would have to put on the Gold Gloves. I think he would have. Certain gloves you got to put on certain gold bat. Gold vest or jersey or something. Pitcher has to throw a gold ball. Cleats. Yeah. It's a whole presentation, you know, and. Yeah, and there's music, obviously. With the gold ball getting trotted in from the outfit, I think Rob Manford's actually the one running it with. With sparklers and flares coming off of it. Like a bottle. Oh, yeah. Like bottle service. And also bingo it is. There's actually people coming with golden at bat with, like, a board that's able to do this. Yeah. The bat also gets brought. Same presentation from the same exact spot in the outfield one after another. And if that gold ball, let's say pitcher throws it and ends up in the dirt, they don't have another one. No. So it's same ball. What if he bounces off into the crowd? Throw it back in. Gotta go back get it. I thought it stayed fair. Whenever I heard. I thought it was a joke. And then. And it's like, no, it'd be fun, though. It'd be fun to see him try it out a little bit. Hit that golden buzzer like it's America's Got Talent, too. Yeah, that would be cool. Like, the manager comes running out, and then Shohei lifts his hands up like this, and these Gold gloves come floating. Yeah, he goes walking out with that bat. Now we're talking. Yeah, I'm liking it. You don't like it? Hate it. What? Yeah, it's stupid. That's not baseball. You know, there's no need to do that. Puts on gold glasses like Those tactical ones that they're selling at 3:00am yeah. Yes. The Dahmers. If they're gonna do all of this that we just laid out, I'm in. Okay, but they won't. It'll be some Mickey Mouse rollout and it's gonna suck. You just don't do that. Okay, Guess what? The guy get batting in the seven hole is making like $40 million a year. So get in the box. Box and hit. Okay, we're not doing like a. You know, actually, we're gonna take the lead off hitter and bring him back up here for the golden at bat. We'll put a ghost runner on first base. I mean, what the are we doing? What are you talking about? Ghost runner would be so sick. I would choose to have the fast ghost runner personally. Yeah, My ghost runner would be stealing bases all the time. Well, that. That's what's happening next is they're gonna be, you know what, for two innings of the game, you can put a ghost. Ghost runner on and he's. He can seal as many bases as you want. So I could hit myself in? Technically? Probably, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Shohei's gonna have rbi, stolen bases, and home runs all in one at bat. Yeah, he could. Baseball's awesome again. I love it. I think they're gonna do the Savannah Bananas rule too, where if someone in the crowd catches it, it counts as an at. Gonna have to have good eyes on that gold ball. Yeah. Because it's gonna be tough. Whenever it gets in the crowd, it's gonna be glowing. No, that's the gold dust on it. Yeah. So it kind of has like a trail. Like dusty. Baseball could be really good again. Yeah. Hope they do it well. If they also let them. Juice, let's light the ball on fire too. I like that more than the golden bat Deal. The fire juice. What if you had a money ball? A money ball? Sometimes if he strikes you out, it's two outs. If you hit a homer, it's two extra. I would like to get back to what, the Fire or the Juice? Both. Both. Okay. I'm good with guys. Juice and it. Yeah, why not? I'm not a waiver, obviously. Yeah, well, yeah. I mean, if you're gonna put it into your body, you'd be okay with the repercussions. Let's call Jeff Bassin. And who's gonna be able to hit Dongs? Brother, these gold balls are gonna be flying out of stadiums, but you're gonna be taking 10 to 20, 30 years off the back end of life. Whatever. They were hitting monster balls back. Maybe you get to use a metal back bat on your golden net bat. Oh, is that good or bad for these? You gotta put a cage in front of the picture, though, so he doesn't get his head taken off. But yeah, these guys would be hitting it 800. It'd be so fun to watch. So we just fixed the home run derby all of a sudden. Well, see, the issue is with the home run derby particular. You got a bunch of 12 year olds. Yeah, they'd have to because six or seven of those kids would die. Or put them in knight's gear. That's. Now there's an idea. I'm not talking about hockey gear. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give him swords too. It. Yes. Yeah, they do. Get out. They joust a little bit for the ball. They do. Chef Paston did not answer our cold facetime. That's been happening, huh? It has been. He's knee deep in the hot stove right now. So that makes sense. My wife kind of gave me yesterday over two on cold face times yesterday. What's that all about? Who on this show? No, Chef. He answered. No, he called back. That's a win. Who else didn't answer? Yeah. With everything going on. Jet. Pass, Jet. We're live. We're live. We're live. We're live. Love it. Love it. Ty hates this gold at bat, but I want to let you know, he says it's a little state fairy. He wants to say that it's a little bit ridiculous. It is Mickey mouse. No offense to anybody that it could potentially take offense to that. We have brainstormed some wonderful concepts. The add to this. Maybe it is a gold ball that is thrown a gold bat. Those are both presented as if it's a nightclub with bottle service from the outfield. There's golden gloves that you have to wear whenever you're the gold at bat. What are your thoughts on it and what is the likelihood of this actually becoming a thing? Once again, we are live. And if you don't want to give a take on this, it is 100% okay now. Totally happy to give a take on this. I think it's a terrible idea. Thank you, Jeff. The golden at bat. And I think everything you just suggested is a terrible idea too. And you can leave the freaking game alone and it will still be really good. You don't need to spice things up and take away from what baseball actually is. Tell about the fireball game is good enough. And I don't understand why people want to tinker beyond what we have already. The pitch clock has done wonders. Don't get too far out over your skin. Keys. Not worth it. Okay. You bring up a lot of good points and I appreciate it. Ty was saying the same exact thing as you I didn't mention to you. Let me reconsider this. You're getting mocked very loudly in my ear right now. You can't hear. I'm glad to get mocked. What about. What about the ball getting dipped into gasoline and it being on fire? Yeah, kind of like that. Thoughts? I would. You know what? I would be down for the fire now. We're good. Okay. I've had. I've had some fireball nights myself and usually end up great. So if we're talking about a ball that is lit aflame, totally on board with that. Okay, so you were saying this is probably not going to happen though. No, I don't think it's going to happen. Anyway, here's the thing. It wouldn't shock me if they tested it out like in Independent league or in the All Star Game. I. For the All Star Game, metal bats home. Like if you want to give Ohtani an extra at bat or if you want to give Aaron Judge an extra at bat or Juan Soto. Hey, be my guest. That's great. Major League Baseball game, hard pass. Okay, how about metal bats? All Star Game, Home Run Derby. Kids in outfield have to wear a knights costume. Like back in the middle. Medieval times. Hell yeah. 100% on board with that. I have been asking for metal bats in the Home Run Derby for a decade and a half now. So big thumbs up on that one. Happy? We can all see it the same way. We appreciate you, Jet. You're the man. Gentlemen, it's always a pleasure. See it. These baseball people hate the idea of evolving any kind of change. Don't. Like we did make. We did. Not really. We broke some ground, had a massive change to the game, so don't really need another. Another one like this that completely changes everything. And I do think we potentially made a mockery out of the idea. No, no. I think if you're going to do it, then you make a mockery out of it. If you're going to do something that changes the game and is a stupid idea and the commissioner has no nut sack, so he's just gonna. People suggest it and he says, you know, that's a great idea. Let's do that. You know, instead of saying we don't need to do that, we just. We just changed a lot with baseball and it did. It it made the games quicker, made a little bit better. But if we're going to do this, then you're right. Let's do the bottle service. Let's. Let's make it a real mockery because that's what we're already doing. So we might as well take it, you know, 10x. And on that note, let's get out of here. We're trying to help sports, not hurt it, but if we got bad ideas, let's try to make them a little better. Back to the drawing board. You're right. It's the only way you find good ideas. Right? No, I disagree. I think good ideas can just come and they're there. And I think bad ideas can come and nothing good can come from them. I think that is possible. But whenever people say there's no bad ideas, there's a lot of bad ideas that come from that. But there's a lot of good ideas that come from bad ideas. And that's all Rob Manfred's trying to do, I guess, what the NFL equivalent be. So remember when they're trying to change the extra point. Yeah. We pitch. And by we, I mean me, the platformer. Yeah. Platform on the sideline, have it raise up. You know, if you score on the left side of the hash marks, you got a kick from the left stage that is coming up with a spotlight on it and smoke. And you gotta kick like a rugby sidekick. If you score on the right side, obviously the stage comes up from the other side. If you go down the middle, you see you got an opportunity to kick from the back. Back on the field from right behind it. And you stand up on a stage, they got music thinking. All these fields really got a retro. Huh? I just didn't know what we were trying to do. And that is why I was never asked for another idea, you know, because they were like, hey, they're trying to figure out how to save the extra point. You got any ideas? Absolutely, yep. Let's put a stage up there, have that thing lift up like Rey Mysterio's old entrance. Yep, yep. Comes flying out. This is for one point, you know, nobody's going to the bathroom if that's taking place. No way. Nobody. Everybody's watching the extra point. They passed on it. I don't even know if they pitched it, to be honest. Kicking a flaming ball would be sweet. Possible too, because you got obviously shoes on and yeah, the water be tough, but yeah, yeah, going forward. Just get some gloves, maybe instead of onside kick. Going for a fourth to 15, probably be the closest equivalent. I think that's not a terrible concept. Even though we've seen some successful onside kicks now because people are trying. You know, I've always had an issue with the lack of effort by the kicking teams on onside kicks because they just had like the excuse, like, well, it's impossible to get them. It's like, maybe. But also maybe you can. You hit a high hop that's real high. You could still get there. Still get there. You could still have a chance even during save it. But people aren't wasting any practice time to get better at them because mathematically it's impossible. So I think they did kind of kill the onside kick. But this year has been some success. A lot of there's been some success. All like sideways on ground. Little chopper, little chopper boy. He's been really helping out in a couple different occasions. So I'm happy it's back to having some success. But if it was going to continue to go the way that it was going, it was like I was getting to even get on board with like, we got to make this possible for sure. My homes. Get Allen, get Lamar out there, give him another Jamis, get James, Winston. They still need to change it back. You should be able to do an outside kick whenever the whole having to tell the other team that you're going to do it is. Yeah, I hate them. Why do you have to tell them though? Because everybody's up front, everybody's 30 yards away. Dude, that game kicked off last night and I'm in my kitchen, you know, and I just look up at the screen and I'm holding like Mackenzie and I'm like, that looks so the kicker. The. Yeah. You know, and it's like they're trying to save the play because it is electrifying. And when there has been returns especially. Especially with the weather, there's going to be more returns with this rule. So I appreciate like what they're trying to do with it all and everything like that, but it's going to take a while for me to be like, that looks professional because it just does, you know, it just looks weird. Practice. It looks like a practice rep. First year Mickey Mouse bingo. We'll get used to it. Just like the 33 yard extra point I think looked weird for a while. Now it's just kind of standard operating procedure. So it's like, we'll get used to it. But they have to get more returns out of that because it can't just be a weird looking touchback as opposed to just a standard looking touchback. And I think as the weather's changing, we're seeing more, but I don't know what the numbers are going to say inevitably, but I hope kickoff because whenever. I mean old buddy Turpin, that was a. Change the game. Yep, changed the game just like that. There was. Debo was back for a couple. It's like he's been back there a lot more now because he's so good at it. Change the game. Like these things change the game. The weather this last week and you can tell in these cold games there was a lot more returns. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think as the weather turns, guys just going to be able to blast them out. And with the lack of momentum that the coverage team has, you do have an advantage. Even if it's two yards deep, you know, if you are able to get going, you got a weapon back there. So that's good. I think it was good coming from it. But it's going to take a bit for me to be like, that looks. Yeah, it looks. That looks natural. That looks like football. Because instead it just looks like. That's weird for the kicker too. I'm happy I didn't have to do that. Like whenever you had to do the pun after safety and you were with people still but you had no snapper. I used to have to. I had to simulate a snap. So like practice rep simulator, snap, catch it and then do the thing. But always felt so weird. Like it was. They did. I guess you did. That's what you were doing. Yeah, I see guys do that. They're simulating the snap there. Yeah, because in practice if you don't have a snapper and you're just kicking, you're gonna fake the snap. Every single thing. You're gonna toss the ball and snap, throw the ball off the ground and snap. Because there's no reason for you not to. Hands are the most important thing. We learned that obviously Indiana, Ohio State, that kicker or that punter learned that pun for hand. For punters, like the hands are the. Obviously you got to be able to kick a ball that is a big. But the hands are like the most important thing. If you have bad hands, everything else is not going to work. You have good hands, you see the ball longer, you can, you can put it on a platter a little bit easier. The drop is a little bit softer because you're not like, you know, you have a little snap. The snap doesn't have to be absolutely, absolutely perfect every time. Bingo. Yeah, you can make it happen. So the hands matter, but yeah. Simulate snap right there. Somebody told me they wanted to punt against me and Mr. Beast, pro versus amateur thing. Thomas responded saying, buddy, if I was to punt right now, I'd tear 14. Go yourself. You think you're so smart. Okay. Think you can beat me? All right. I will tear this leg off my body before you beat me. And with that being said, I don't have six months to rehab at all. No. I kicked two free kicks. Got a blood pool in my leg. This thing's retired. This thing's retired. Good run done. Good. But I can still kick heads off if I have to. Yeah. Amaze. I thought I broke his neck. Oh, he was the one. You. Same. He responded all after we were talking about his golf. That was a cold call. Did he get back to you? He never answers, though. He's on the course. He's grinding away. Let's see if the Miz answers after another Brown's loss. He listens. He actually listens to the podcast pod. Yeah. Which Ty every single day. We appreciate you putting it together. You bet. People still listen podcasts. We like to say we appreciate those people that listen to the podcast. Telling people. Yeah, real. It's like an actual number. It's Nuge. Mike Nuge listens a lot of people. There's another great. He never sees. We're live. We're live. We're live. You're always live. Amen. Thank you for that. What are you talking about? Well, we're talking about yesterday. Didn't answer. Which we were very pissed off because we were absolutely ragdolling your golf game. Okay. So we're past. Yeah, yeah. We're talking about how terrible where we are and everything like that. I'm getting better. And I think I'm actually going to drop a YouTube golf channel. I love it. That's what I'm doing. That's what I'm looking forward to. Because when I go back to the acc, I plan on dominating and being the biggest golfer out there and being the best golfer out there. And I'm going to spend the next six months dedicating myself in getting myself better. So I beat you. I beat AJ if you even come. I don't know if you have to. Your stupid soccer stuff, likely. And a little soccer thing that you did last year where you're like, oh, this is too much for me. I can't do the golf and the soccer. I got to do my soccer stuff. Well, so what do you. Soccer stocks over. Soccer stops Over. I will say we'll see, we'll see about the American century. Okay. It was a hip flexor. Thanks. It was a hip flexor. It is back. Just want to let you know, and you should know that better name anybody because I kicked your head off at WrestleMania. Dumpy just called you a too. You don't have ears. You can't hear it. He's in the back. This is what you guys got. This is what you guys got. This is your moment. So have your moment. No, my mom was at wrestlemania. I kicked your head off. One, two, three. Undefeated still. George Kittle rag dolled you as well. Let's talk about the Browns. You had to have George KD help you out, which is fine. No, you chose to start something with George K. That's on you. That's on me. I certainly accepted the help. George Kle sat in the front row and sell celebrated you celebrated you and not me. I made 20. 20 years. I've been in WWE 20 years. Pat McAfee for the brand. I want to be for the brand. And the fact is, I wwe, and I am the brand. Okay. All right. Well, obviously, we appreciate your dedication to WWE over the last 20 years. You're a phenomenal superstar, which is why it's even more amazing that I just came out of a bus that I was in for 10 hours kick your head off and beat you. Let's move forward, though. Speaking of losing you the Browns, how do we feel about where the Cleveland Brown season is and what's the future look like? Miss? Well, I enjoyed the pregame speech by James Winston. I enjoyed the 500 yards thrown by Jameis Winston, but I did not like the pick six by James Winston. So I'm hoping, and I've been hoping for, you know, that this next year we get a new quarterback and we dedicate ourselves. Honestly, I didn't want. I didn't want Mayfield to go. I have been vocal. I was a big Baker Mayfield fan from the beginning. I thought he represented. He had the moxie of a Cleveland Brown, and we got rid of him. And I really dislike that, especially now because he's having so much success. I knew he was going to have success, but it's typical what we do. Next year, we'll get a new quarterback. Stefanski will be able to guide him and show him the light, and we will be in the super bowl talks next year. Okay. You're going to take like a $79 million cap hit. If you move on from Desean, are you cutting him or because it's fine because we will be able to have a new quarterback. We'll be able to guide him and go and we already have. He doesn't know. We appreciate you, man. We pray. Am I done? Oh, you're done with me. So you FaceTime me yesterday you gave me a bunch of stuff about yesterday not doing it, and now you're like, all right, we're done. We got it all. Yeah. Yesterday would have been a preview. Yesterday would have been a Yesterday. Yesterday would have been a. Yesterday would have been a preview of the Browns Broncos. A lot more to talk about in a preview than the post game when you lose, you know. So there would have been a But you didn't answer. You're busy. You're working. I assume. You're always working. I am. I answered everything you asked me. Every single question I answered. No, you didn't answer the call yesterday. Oh, I was busy. I have Monday Night Raw. Every Monday on Raw. And guess what? January 6th, I just turn on our trick. Hey, what happened with New Day? How come you didn't go out there and say kofi Xavier enough? You're not talking to Biggie? Like, you know, I'm glad they did that. Whoa. I think we should celebrate the fact that Kofi and Xavier are coming to terms with who they are and what they need to do to succeed in wwe. And it's get rid of the excess baggage, which is Biggie. Oh, this guy's an. You're a terrible. Get him out. You're a terrible guy. Terrible. You just said you kicked my head off at WrestleMania. Good job, that guy. About time he didn't read Biggie story on player tribute. Clearly not. Is he still a tag team champ? He's still talking. I bet you he's still talking right now for sure. No, he's not. Let's get out of here. I don't like that it's golf games rounded in the forum. It sounds like if you see a miz in public, you go ahead and grab a dude wipe. Yeah. Cuz what you're walking into is a little poop. Walking poop into you dude wipes right now for 15 years. A long time. Time to live with a brown streak. Oh, no. Okay, the Miz knows this. Yeah. It's been 15 long years since the Cleveland Browns have had a return touchdown Wild. That's a long brown streak. If and when that streak ends this year, dude wifes will be giving one person $100,000. Wow. All you gotta do is scan this QR code to enter and obviously if you're not wiping your cheeks with dude wipes, what are you doing? I know it might have been taboo back in the day. I use baby wipes to wipe my ass. I'll use cardboard if need be. Boys, let me tell you, life's a lot better with the dude wipe. Life big time. You know, the cheeks rubbing together, maybe a little monkey butt feel. Did it get all dude wipes is a bidet on the go. Only need one. Only need one. You can even fold that thing up. Get a second wipe out of a dude wipe easy. And then whenever your cheeks are clean, guess what? Your day is going to be better. Well said. You don't want to dry, you want to wear. You want to clean it up to make it better. Dude wipes a portable bidet for your ass. Make your cheeks better with dude wipes. Hell yeah. Wow. Wow. Right here. Right here. It's well said. Best of the best. Plant sourced fiber. So nice. Saving the environment maybe. Definitely saving my cheeks. Definitely saving my cheeks. Stars. It starts with you saving your environment. Only you can prevent chafed cheeks in the way you stop. That is you, dude wipe those things. That's right. Austin Cauley, first person person that I'd been around. Training camp rookie year, had the moist towlets in the bathroom. Public bathroom. I go in there 1:30am about to drop something off in a big way. Sure. I guess he had been in there beforehand. It was right on top of the toilet paper thing. I was like, let me give this a go. I floated back to my bedroom. I floated back. Yeah. Next morning at breakfast, I was like, like, who had the baby wipes in the thing? Austin Cully. That's me, bro. Got to do it, bro. I go, you do? He goes, every dump, bro. I'm like, smart. He did it on, I think when he went on a mission to Argentina. That's when it all started. He started doing everything down there. And it's like since dude wipes has been created, made it a lot easier. You can find these things everywhere. Incredible. And it's great for the cheeks. Best of the best really is. I think Kabul says he wipes a toilet papers and he wipes again. If you want triple stamp, a double stamp, you certainly can. But I'm telling you only need one wipe for one flush and you keep it moving. He's full. I can't even imagine what he was dealing with the other day. What are you talking about? After Thanksgiving, he sent me a picture of that. Oh, I didn't even think about that. He sent me a picture of the skyline. Chili in the press box. Cincinnati. Oh, boy. Going in. Looks like that. It looked. Should have seen what it looks like coming out. It looked like the worst. Imagine how loud that is in the bathroom. Poor house. God. Yeah, that is. I wonder if they do like a. Like a let the bodies hit the floor type celebration. When Mark Kabi walks in there, people just open the door. Yeah, I don't doubt it. And if those cheeks aren't wiped with dude wipes, I don't know how he gets from A to B. I assume those cheeks would lock him down. That's how he tore his kill choice. Both of them. Let's get out of here. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. Like, do what. We're in this thing together. Never forget it. Team on me. Team on three. Foxy. Great shooting today, buddy. Foxy. Thank you, brother Fox. Here's a picture of Kabi before it went in. Before it got into Kabi's. What? Are you sure? Are there beans in there in that? That's Ohio, brother. That's your hometown. No, Skyline's legit, but, I mean, that doesn't look good. Imagine what that looked like after it went through a kapoli. Yeah, he drank. Probably yelling. It's a little lighter. Yelling in the bathroom. Get up and drank the whole thing. Put in his growler. Team on me. Team on three. Supposed to put water in there. Right there. He does. Chili. One, two, three. Goodbye.