PMS 2.0 1292 - Live From Super Bowl Radio Row in New Orleans, Fred Warner, Trey Hendrickson, Thomas Morstead, Pacman Jones, Chris Fallica & More

Summary

The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1292 Summary

Release Date: February 5, 2025

Introduction: Live from Super Bowl Radio Row

Pat McAfee kickstarts the episode from the bustling Convention Center in New Orleans, gearing up for Super Bowl Lix between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Philadelphia Eagles. The atmosphere is electric, with podcasters, local and international media alike converging for the grand event.

"Football. It is wonderful and it is an absolute honor to be able to feel the buzz. It is palpable in New Orleans for the Super Bowl." — Pat McAfee [00:00]

Super Bowl Preview: Chiefs vs. Eagles

Pat delves into the matchup, highlighting the Chiefs' strengths led by Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce, and the Eagles' defensive capabilities under Nick Sirianni. The discussion touches on defensive coordinators' experience, emphasizing the elite coaching staffs of both teams.

"Defense win championships." — Darius Butler [06:30]

Featured Guests and Their Insights

1. Fred Warner – Linebacker, San Francisco 49ers

   Fred Warner joins the show, sharing insights from his experience and discussing the challenges his team faced during the season. He emphasizes the importance of team cohesion and resilience.

   "I felt like I went to end of the game, thinking, oh man, I'm about to win Super Bowl MVP." — Darius Butler [06:30]

2. Trey Hendrickson – Defensive End, Cincinnati Bengals

   Trey Hendrickson discusses his journey, overcoming injuries, and his role in the Bengals' defensive strategies. He provides an in-depth analysis of offensive lines, particularly focusing on Joe Tunney's transition to tackle and its impact on matchups against the Eagles.

   "Saquon's vision, once he gets to the second and third level, like angles, safeties, they're 15, 18 yards back." — Fred Warner [15:25]

   Hendrickson also highlights the cyclical nature of football strategies, predicting a resurgence of run-heavy offenses in the coming years.

   "The run game's got to be there in order to open up the pass game." — Trey Hendrickson [42:08]

Heroism Spotlight: Trey Howard’s Brave Act

A poignant segment features the heroic story of 10-year-old Trey Howard, who saved his sister during a tragic plane crash incident. Trey’s bravery and quick thinking amidst chaos exemplify the extraordinary moments that transcend the sports narrative.

"As debris was falling... Trey here ended up with a piece of metal in his head... he saved his sister." — Pat McAfee [16:08]

Defensive Strategies and Player Performances

The conversation shifts to defensive tactics, with Fred Warner and Trey Hendrickson dissecting the Chiefs' and Eagles' defenses. They discuss the importance of experienced defensive coordinators like Vic Fangio and analyze key players’ performances, such as Saquon Barkley’s explosive run game and Jaylen Hurts’ versatility.

"Defensive masterminds executing well-coached defenses make for elite teams." — Pat McAfee [08:03]

Interactive Segment: Fred Warner’s Basketball Challenge

In a lighthearted interlude, Fred Warner attempts to shoot a basketball into a hoop set up at Radio Row. The segment blends humor with promotional content, highlighting Warner’s camaraderie with the hosts.

"If you make that ball into that hoop right over here, 50 people will win $500." — Pat McAfee [43:21]

Discussions on Offensive Lines and Player Positions

AQ Shipley and Trey Hendrickson engage in a detailed discussion about offensive line dynamics, specifically Joe Tunney’s role and the strategic adjustments made by the Chiefs to counter the Eagles' defensive prowess.

"Joe Tunney has moved out to tackle, and it's phenomenal what Andy Reid has done with the offensive line." — AQ Shipley [12:33]

Salary Cap, Coaching, and Team Strategies

The hosts explore the complexities of NFL salary caps, player contracts, and coaching decisions. They debate the impact of consistent offensive line performance on team success and the implications of upcoming contracts for key players like Trey Hendrickson.

"38 years of NFL experience... The coaching staffs for both of these teams, elite." — Pat McAfee [08:03]

Closing Remarks: Looking Ahead to Super Bowl Week

As the show wraps up, Pat McAfee reflects on the ongoing Super Bowl festivities in New Orleans. The hosts express their excitement for the upcoming game, anticipate engaging discussions in future episodes, and extend gratitude to their guests and listeners.

"We're lucky to be here. Trey Hendrickson will join us in about 10 minutes from the Cincinnati Bengals." — Pat McAfee [59:05]

Key Takeaways:

• Super Bowl Lix Preview: Chiefs vs. Eagles, emphasizing elite defensive strategies and coaching.
• Guest Insights: Fred Warner and Trey Hendrickson provide expert analysis on defensive plays and team dynamics.
• Heroism Highlight: Trey Howard’s courageous act during a plane crash.
• Strategic Discussions: In-depth talk on offensive line adjustments and the cyclical nature of football strategies.
• Lighthearted Moments: Engaging interactions with guests, including Fred Warner’s basketball challenge.
• Future Predictions: Anticipation of evolving defensive strategies and the importance of team cohesion for Super Bowl success.

Notable Quotes:

• "Defense win championships." — Darius Butler [06:30]
• "Saquon's vision, once he gets to the second and third level, like angles, safeties, they're 15, 18 yards back." — Fred Warner [15:25]
• "The run game's got to be there in order to open up the pass game." — Trey Hendrickson [42:08]
• "38 years of NFL experience... The coaching staffs for both of these teams, elite." — Pat McAfee [08:03]

This episode of The Pat McAfee Show seamlessly blends expert sports analysis with personal stories and engaging banter, providing listeners with a comprehensive and entertaining preview of Super Bowl Lix.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello beautiful people and welcome to the convention center down here in New Orleans for Super Bowl Lix. It's Wednesday and this sports program starts right now. Football. It is wonderful and it is an absolute honor to be able to feel the buzz. It is palpable in New Orleans for the super bowl which kicks off on Sunday at 6:30 between the AFC champion and also the back to back super bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs led by Patrick Mahomes. Travis Kelce in Taylor Swift. Ooh. Yep, she's part of the fan base and anytime she's part of anything, you obviously have to mention her name. But on defensive side, Spagnolo, Chris Jones and a litany of boys are ready to run wild in the Superdome. And then the Philadelphia Eagles led by Nick Sirianni, who might not be a big dumb tip, potentially might not be the dumbest guy in football. Like everybody on TV was saying for a large portion of this NFL season with Jalen Hurts, who was throwing the ball all over the yard. A man who was able to throw seeds if he had to, even though all season long people been saying Jalen Hurts can't.

[AJ Hawk]

He can't throw the ball, can't throw football.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Saquon Barkley can run, but the quarterback can't do shit. Who was saying that? AQ?

[AQ Shipley]

Not sure. You tell me.

[Pat McAfee]

You and many others were stopping that. Yeah. Saquon Barkley in an offensive line over there have a run game that reminds us of the good old days whenever football was grand in pound or all the time. It's going to be a fantastic game to wrap up this wonderful NFL season. And we are so incredibly honored to be a part of this Radio Row operation. You know, there's a lot of people that think Radio Row is beneath them. Radio Row is the Super Bowl. I don't fully understand people that come to a city to do media and don't come here. Foxy, hit that top camera once again. Look at this convention center. It's filled with podcasters, local radio, local tv, international tv, international podcasts, college kids. The future of media is here. And every single one of the companies that pays money to the NFL throughout the season for commercials or for ad spots or for appearances. They pay a bunch of people to come through here. So the amount of guests we're about to have over the next three days is about to be fantastic today. Fred Warner. Yes, that Fred Warner, Mormon friend of program San Francisco, 49er madman linebacker, will be joining us in this seat in a matter of moments. And in the second hour, Trey Hendrickson, defensive end, pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals, will be joining us. He doesn't wear gloves and he also doesn't talk to the media much. So I had a chance to catch up with him just yesterday. He's babyface Assassin too. Oh yeah. Dude looks like he's 13 years old. Has 35 and a half sacks over the last two years. Was the NFL sack leader in this particular season. Now there's a contract coming up here for Trey Hendrickson. There's a lot of that in Cincinnati. Can't wait to talk to him about the year that was in Cincy and also what his future looks like and also how's he not getting wrinkles in a high stress position of being a pass rusher. It's about to be a glorious time. I'm obviously not alone. The toxic table is here at Boston. Connor and that Ty Schmidt. Ty Schmidt. Another radio row. How's it feel? It feels good to be back down here.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean, you mentioned it, you know, the buzz, the energy, it's palpable. We get pretty comfortable, you know, being in the Thunderdome, kind of doing our own thing, you know, just day after day, hey, let's grind these shows out. So getting down here and being in front of all these people, it's incredible. And you know, New Orleans, what a host city.

[Pat McAfee]

What a host city.

[AJ Hawk]

What an unbelievable host city.

[Pat McAfee]

What a beautiful place. Gorgeous.

[AJ Hawk]

Absolutely. You know, we have so much history here. So much history. You know, I, I, I love the Cajun flavor. So being down here, we talked about it yesterday. Our first radio row in Miami. Inside of a shoe box. Look at this set. You know, we've, we've come a long way. It's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Foss, ESPN mystic scene set and all the people behind the scenes that set this up for us. It looks way too nice, incredible, way too cool for something for us to be a part of. But we're very appreciative also. Shout out to Hell yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Sweet Uni.

[Pat McAfee]

The Louisiana State Troopers boys in blue, they were in some clean ass blues as we walked in here. They, they said there's going to be something left on your set that you can't just buy. We just want to say thanks for spending time with. I guess they listen to us while they're in the cars. I think I'm learning about that a lot with state troopers. And also we got this license plate play for Shout out to the troopers. Shout out to troopers.

[AJ Hawk]

Shout out.

[Pat McAfee]

Shout out Troopers first responders. You know, the whole thing we are very grateful and. And thank you for welcoming us into the city. We are very thankful to be here. Boston. Connor, you got a nice welcome last night. Down to casino, pal, huh?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Formerly Harrah's, now Caesars. It was fantastic. You know, me and Ty D. Buch, a couple others. Foxy, we went over there, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

Just Foxy made it out. Foxy made it out.

[Ty Schmidt]

Now, I don't know why. His eyes were barely open, but he was there in spirit either way. And, you know, we had one very zany dealer who was kind of screwing around a little bit. A little bit too much. But one of the other dealers gave us a couple spots to go to. He said, look, this is southern Detroit, brother. This is exactly the type of city.

[Pat McAfee]

You want to be in.

[Ty Schmidt]

And I said, that's perfect.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean, this is southern Detroit?

[Ty Schmidt]

People are just saying, this is warm Detroit. I know you said there's a lot of history in this city. I would say, sure, I guess maybe there is, because all the buildings are old and shitty. But again, I'm a huge fan.

[Pat McAfee]

You have no respect. You have no respect for anything.

[Ty Schmidt]

You're taking it wrong. You're taking it wrong. We were just in Detroit in April for the draft.

[Boston Connor]

I love that place.

[Pat McAfee]

Great time. It's awesome.

[Ty Schmidt]

Everyone was super nice out there. That's not true, but everyone was super nice.

[Pat McAfee]

By far. Best draft ever. They said there were, like, 2 million people there, but Detroit certainly held up their end of the board. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

And this is just warm Detroit, and. And I'm pumped to be here, and I'm excited for the week that's going to be.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know who you're taking a shot at there.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm nobody.

[Pat McAfee]

Everybody.

[Ty Schmidt]

I think you guys are just making it seem like I'm taking winners in.

[Gumpy]

That scenario, but I'm not.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

No one's losing here. This is a fantastic place to be. It's warm outside. I mean, you really can't ask for more in the casinos handing out money.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah, I heard you won last night. Congratulations. If this was all to get to that, congrats. We heard you won last night.

[Ty Schmidt]

I was just telling you what I was seeing. I was.

[Pat McAfee]

We.

[Ty Schmidt]

We lay of the land. We kind of know where we are now in the city. And again, I love Detroit.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

New Orleans is just warm Detroit with a few more outdoor places to go. I love it.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. All right. That certainly. Certainly sounds like the case. And shout out to you guys for making that happen. Going over there. I Took a nine hour coma as soon as we got here. It's hard. It was great way to start this Super Bowl Week 9 year NFL vet looking as cool down here as he does at the Thunderdome. One of the biggest brains in football. Hosted everything db, good D, bad D all year, ladies and gentlemen. Darius, you look super cool, man. What's something we need to think about going into this game that maybe hasn't been chatted about? You think?

[Darius Butler]

I saw a cool stat. Now, you know, Spags gets talked about a lot. Rightfully so. Defensive mastermind. But Vic Fangio chasing his first championship as a defensive coordinator. His defense, five and, oh, on turf, which the super bowl will be played on a Sunday.

[Pat McAfee]

Five. What's that mean?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, defense win championships.

[Pat McAfee]

No, but faster.

[Darius Butler]

Faster turf. But I mean, you know, some of these stats, you know, they all mean something. So I saw this one and they're only giving up 11 points a game, so we know Chiefs haven't been as explosive on offense. That's something I'm keeping an eye on. You know those exciting whites back there got dogs up front, dogs up and down that defense. You know, defense wins championships. So I'm excited about my Eagles and how they're performing.

[Pat McAfee]

Are you doing a postseason everything DB team? And is there maybe any Caucasians that might make it a great.

[Darius Butler]

We'll see some good ones.

[Pat McAfee]

And Bonds. There's some good ones out there.

[Darius Butler]

Bond's halfway there. He might be defensive player of the year. We'll have Fred. I'll probably ask him about Zach Bond, his running mate on that second level with the linebacker position. But yeah, it may be some. Maybe a couple of athletic white guys that crack that team.

[Pat McAfee]

Both these defenses are obviously incredibly well coached and they execute well. We actually have a graphic about the amount of experience at the defensive coordinator position and it is bananas. Whenever you have the top left corner there, it's Dick LeBeau. Obviously, he's been around long, long time. Feels like if you're a good defense coordinator, you're going to have a job forever if you want it. 38 years of NFL experience for Paesano Fangio and 21. Or, I'm sorry, 27 years of experience for Paisano Spagnolo. Look at the 34 years of combined defensive coordinator experience on this. The coaching staffs for both of these teams, elite. Even though everybody thinks Sirianni's a just.

[AJ Hawk]

Some big dumb dipshit.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's not. Everybody out there has got big brains. And the 5, 0. On turf. The Eagles defense is Suited for that because of how fast they are or.

[Darius Butler]

Is this just, you know, it's one of those stats, you know, you can take it for, you know, grain of salt, you know, it's the Chiefs, it's the Eagles, two very good teams. It's going to come down to the fourth quarter. I think it'll be a close ball game. We know Spags when all the marbles on the table. He's probably going to bring some pressure. It's kind of, you know, keep everything in front, rally and tackle and get after the passes. So we'll see.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. And ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, super bowl champion Rider cup winner, wearing a thick hoodie down here, which is a good move. Sweat it out.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

I got work on anywhere. Just walk around town. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. paul Hawker. You said something earlier that you said. Nobody's talking about it, but it's real. Especially in this particular case.

[Boston Connor]

Well, I feel like people are talking about, at least to me, when they ask me who's going to win the game. Random people will say, oh, are you one of those people that's against the Chiefs? Are you? You want the Chiefs to lose with the whole Taylor Swift situation? I think if the Chiefs do win this three and they get this three peat, the people that have been hating on the Chiefs, they can thank themselves because I think that's the motivation that they gave them. I feel like when you've won two in a row, like, it's very easy to get comfortable and get complacent, I think in that whole situation. And you need something to rally around as a team so the Chiefs easily can feel like, hey, it's us against the world right now. Everybody wants to beat us. Everyone wants. They're watching the super bowl to see us lose. Like back in the day. Floyd Mayweather, either you love Floyd Mayweather or you were watching to see him get beat. I feel like that's where the Chiefs are right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, and Floyd Mayweather utilized that in promotion and in motivation and everything in the gym. Also the refs getting added into it. I feel like you heard Travis talk about how, like, hey, media people, okay, you don't want to talk about how good we are, okay. You don't want to talk about how much work we've had to put in to be able to be in the place that we're in. You don't want to talk about how talented this particular roster is or how lack of talent this roster has maybe compared to other people and how good of A football team. We are. I think they're using all of that shit. All these people, we hear about them at the top. They're finding reasons, finding reasons, finding reasons. It's the people that are walking around. They hate the Chiefs on the Internet because everybody sees everything. I think the refs narrative has become one of the new ones as well. A lot of people against the Chiefs. A lot of shit for them to draw inspiration from me.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, yeah. And they don't even have to talk about it. You know, like when a team collectively comes together and you have one common, like, opponent or someone that you hate as a team together, like not one singular person could even be your coach. Absolutely. Teams have definitely. There's a lot of motivation and hate.

[Pat McAfee]

That's the thing.

[Boston Connor]

You can't live on it, but it can. It can wake you up early in the morning when you don't want to wake up if you truly, you know, despise what's going on or you feel like you're being painted in the wrong light. And I think the Chiefs right now feel like, hey, everybody wants us to lose. What better motivation than to go out there and win and stick it to everybody?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And it very easily could turn into a fist fight, you know, get physical out there, especially with how tight it is. That means it's going to come down to trenches. Always does. Ladies and gentlemen, 12 year NFL veteran, Super bowl champion AQ. Thank you. We handed out the trenches this year. I don't know if you saw. Dion Dawkins said he would like the NFL to acknowledge the best offensive lineman in the NFL should probably do tackle and then interior. The two awards if they're going to do it. So then it's not all tackle, tackle, tackle, tackle, tackle, tackle, every single time. Even though that particular position currently is talking about an interior offensive lineman. Joe Tuney is. There's stats coming out now about Joe Tunney, about what he did in New England, now what he's doing with the Chiefs. He goes from a Hall of Fame career inside out to the tackle. Has he done anything that makes you think to yourself, maybe this Kansas City Chiefs offensive line is ready for this Philadelphia Eagles defensive line? Or do you think the advantage in the offensive line is still heavily skewed into the Philadelphia Eagles favor?

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, I think it's still heavily skewed. The Philadelphia Eagles have the best offensive line in football. There's no question.

[Pat McAfee]

Is there like a historic conversation with them or no?

[AQ Shipley]

Well, listen, I mean, I think you've mentioned it so many times about the amount of yards that Saquon has before getting touched, that speaks specifically to the offensive line. So they're phenomenal. But when you talk about Joe Tunney and what he's been able to do, it's phenomenal. And for him to move out to tackle at being a 62 guard with shorter arms. But listen, a lot of the credit has to go to Andy. A lot of the credit, when you watch them, they are not putting him in drop back pass very many times.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, chip, chip, chip, chip, chip, chip.

[AQ Shipley]

They're running more RPOs than they've run all year in the playoffs. And that is literally he can come off and run, block, and then it's either a run or it's a pass. Most of you saw the big play to juju Smith last week and you know, there's so many times that they're doing nakeds and rollouts and then they're peeling the guard back and peeling the center back. So they're not putting them in bad situations. That's because Andy's such a smart coach.

[Pat McAfee]

Which is what you're supposed to do with your players. Let's go to the other side. Coach Sirianni, he's the one that I allegedly. If you listen to Stoutland say, you know what, we need to put Tony, or I'm sorry, we need to put Makai Becton, who has all the talent in the world at 6 foot 7. Let's try him out of guard and see if it works out. It has. They've become the best offensive line in football. He's become a person that that team revolves around and is like, I don't want to say banking on to have success, but yes, as opposed to a guy that got kicked out of town for not living up to the expectations of being a tackle. What a change in life for Makai Becton. And allegedly that was Sirianni's kind of idea. And then Stoutland's a perfect guy.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, I heard Stoutland say that yesterday and I was like, wow, what a move by Sirianni. Because he's right. I mean, I heard Stoutland also say, when you look at the history, six, seven guards don't usually work out. Like you need to be low man wins in the interior. You got to get underneath them. And when you have him, he's a brawler. And the one question mark coming into this season was that right guard position and he solidified it.

[Pat McAfee]

So he'll be there forever. And now will more 6 foot 7 guys be guards?

[AQ Shipley]

I think it's an Anomaly, honestly, I mean like listen, at the end of the day they're meant to be out attack. What's hard to bend, especially if you're against an Aaron Donald, a Grady Jarrett, some of these six one guys that can get up underneath you. It doesn't matter how big you are if you're tall and you don't play low. But he is so physical. So many of these big runs. He's climbing on a linebacker and just ejecting guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And you talked about Saquon yards before contact, which is certainly a compliment to the offensive line. We got some new stats from Hembo on Saquon. His average touchdown length this year, 32 yards. What?

[AQ Shipley]

Good Lord, that's absurd.

[Pat McAfee]

32. He's the only guy in NFL history. I don't know if we were able to get it up in time or not. Yeah, here it is. Only guy in history has 20 plus touchdowns and the average length of the touchdown was more than 30 yards. Now this includes playoffs. 32 and a half yards. And then the immediate thought is, well, you know who steals it all? Yes.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Jalen Hurts takes the two yarders down there at the goal line so that then that isn't kind of offsetting the average 32 1/2 yard average debut.

[Darius Butler]

I mean that's insane. It's insane. And part of it, I mean obviously is the offensive line.

[Pat McAfee]

That's explosive. Who's only explosive vision is crazy.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Who has the second like, is the second place like 12 yards?

[Pat McAfee]

29. 1984, Mark Clayton, 1984. They're playing good ball. Yeah, they're playing good ball back, back in 1984, 1989, Jerry Rice and then Gil Sayers, 27 yards. So I mean there has been home run hitters I guess for 20 plus touchdowns throughout a season. But if you're scoring on a 32 and a half yard clip every single time, that is must watch football. I mean that is must watch football and that's old school football because it's offensive line depending upon. Now Saquon's different too. Let's not.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, his vision, once he gets to the second and third level, like angles, safeties, they're 15, 18 yards back. And he just outruns angles, breaks, tackles. His home run speed is unbelievable. Just the total package that he has paired with this offensive line, unstoppable.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, his DBs don't want to make tackles.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, no, they don't.

[Pat McAfee]

No, they don't. No, no, I'm saying Cole, they don't.

[Ty Schmidt]

It speak to Jaylen too, though, you know, kind of have to watch him. Like some of those middle backers who just fly over the top for Saquon. It's like, well, you kind of have to sit in the pocket a little and wait to see if Jaylen's pulling that thing and taking it because he's had a few 40 yard touchdowns. He started the playoffs this year with a 45 yard touchdown to kick off the entire thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Jaylen's special, isn't he?

[AQ Shipley]

He, he's playing a lot better.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, geez.

[AQ Shipley]

I will say this. Listen, he does, I think the most impressive thing that he's done since week five is not turn the ball over. He's been fantastic at that. He, he's leading the team. He's obviously running, doing what he's done and he, he's throwing the shit out of the ball. I can't, I can't say anything else.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, let's talk about a awesome story that is in the middle of a terrible event and this kind of popped across the news. Our Twitter feed, our algorithm showed us this and we just wanted to show love. 10 year old Trey Howard, okay, was near where the plane went down in Philadelphia, obviously. Terrible tragedy. TCPS to everybody involved in that situation. In the middle of that though, this dude right here laid and saved and protected his daughter. As debris was falling after the plane crash, Post dad explained that it sounded like there was like war happening with like metal things hitting cars. And Trey here ended up with a piece of metal in his head. Okay. When this whole thing happens, goes to the hospital, everything happens. And then he comes out of it on Monday, I believe. Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

So they rushed him to the hospital. He had to have emergency brain surgery. He comes out of it on Monday. He comes out of it and he asks, he asks his dad what day it was. His dad said it was Monday. And he was like, did I miss the Super Bowl? Did we play yesterday? And he said, no, you're fine, we play next Monday. And then his second question was, did he, did he save his sister? Which he did. Yeah. The dad said it was like, it was like the shrapnel was like gunfire hitting his car and he took care of his other, his other children. The 10 year old jumped on his sister like Tyrese Maxey, his favorite 76er, came and visited him in the hospital. It turned out being a great story for them. It's, that's like, and you never know like what's going to happen, but as a 10 year old to go to protect your sister, Just awesome, dog.

[Pat McAfee]

Try. We appreciate you, buddy. Hero. We assume he's going to be going to the Super Bowl.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah, if he could travel.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we assume. Yeah, if he could travel, he'll be going to the Super Bowl. But I think his relationship with the Philadelphia Eagles is probably only beginning. Yes. Because there's not. I mean, just like to your point, you always hope that in the moment of these situations you would act that way. And I think there's even a show on abc guys been hosting forever. Like, what would you do where candy camera, where they set up situations and people can find out if in the moment of somebody getting robbed or somebody in front of you and it's all filmed, does the person act? How you know you would hope that that person would act? You have no idea until a terrible situation pops up. How you're gonna do it as a 10 year old just to be like, I got it. Like, hey, you're gonna go on to do amazing things, brother. And we cannot wait to watch and know that what you're going through with the brain surgery and everything else is only going to set you up to do it. And Trey, you're the best, bud. We're lucky to be in the same world as you at the same time as you. And that's badass stuff. That dad's got to be incredibly proud.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, hey, this is my boy here. Like, that is. You almost get emotional whenever you, like, think about the amount of pride that that dad had to have.

[Chris Felica]

His dad said he was super. Like, his dad said, you know, that's not his job, that's my job. But he did it in that moment. So, yeah, he was very.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, that's dope. Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. I like, I like that that happened, especially, you know, Philly Brit.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Are they going to win a Super Bowl? Huh?

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, they might. They certainly might. There's a chance. I mean, it's. Again, it's hard to bet against the Chiefs because it seems like for the last, I don't know, five years, that's all they do is they win and they win close games. It's kind of what I've thought the entire playoffs, if you're going to beat the Chiefs, you have to beat them. You can't give them an opportunity, you know, when late in the game, for them to drive down and either kick a field goal, like, if they're going to win this game, I think they have to win by 10 to 13 points. But the way they've been playing, you know, who knows? And, and you know, we talk about the Chiefs having a chip on their shoulder. Sirianni's been, you know, had talked about him all year. Same with Jalen. Like this, this Eagle squad has a lot of chips on their shoulder as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I, I think it's gonna be a great game.

[Ty Schmidt]

I think so Flip flop it.

[Pat McAfee]

I think we're. Yeah, me too.

[Ty Schmidt]

I woke up this morning, Eagles and I went to bed. Chiefs like have no idea.

[Pat McAfee]

So since, since the NFC championship, I've been on the Eagles. I'm like, they can do it. They can do it. They. Everything I believe is that you got to be tough. Like that is my entire belief in football. I think. I don't care if it's 2025, I don't care if it's 2045, if football is still being played and it is tackle. I think you got to have a tough team. Like, I just think that is because of how long the season is, how the sport is, everything it involves. I think you gotta be tough. And this is like what one of the toughest teams of all time. And it's like all Sirianni wanted his dogs. Yeah, we're built. Kibbles and Bits were built. We are building a tough team. That's. And they got it. And it's like Saquon was the piece that really ignited this entire thing to another level. And Saquon's like very happy to be there and bought in. So he's a dog as well then. You know, you watch Travis Kelsey get pissed off. The people are talking about the refs and it's like, oh, the phone.

[AJ Hawk]

Now, wait a minute.

[Pat McAfee]

Now they got a little bit extra too. AJ's point. It's like feels like Andy Reid and the boys are able to always win. And then you start looking at stats about Spagnolo is like he's four time super bowl champion. As defense score there for a reason. In the biggest moments, he does not get scared at all. Nope. He is emptying everything he has every single game. And his players love it and his players love him. And it's like. Then you think about Andy Reid. He runs trick plays in the super bowl all the time. Like he actually just runs shit. So it's like he's not scared of anything. And then Tobe, it's like, Bucker's been here. He's at a game winner.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, it's like that team. How do you say they're going to lose a game? I don't know how you say they're Going to lose a game, especially the Super Bowl. But then it's like, well, the Eagles are tougher, I don't know, every day. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

There's a stat, too. I saw it this morning, where it's of the rematches in the super bowl between quarterbacks. The guy who won the first match is 4, 0 in the second match. The quarterback, you know, returning has never won. So it's one of those things.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And then there's all the betting stats that contradict each other. Yep. Like, hey, this happens if this happens. All 18 out of the last 19. Yeah. And then on the complete opposite side, last seven straight times this. And it's like, well, that doesn't tell us shit. That doesn't tell us a damn thing. So I have no idea. I think that's a good thing.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

I think that's a good thing. Joining. Joining us now might be a guy who might be able to give us a little more information. His team's not here. His team had a season that I don't think anybody could have predicted. Can't wait to get his kind of thoughts on it all. Ladies and gentlemen, four time All Pro, absolute stallion out of BYU. Linebacker for the San Francisco 49ers, Fred Warner. How you doing? Hey, at least stand up for him.

[Boston Connor]

So sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't care. Guy just walked quarter mile. Here you go, brother. Hey, I'm great.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hopefully you didn't hear that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Is that all right?

[Gumpy]

That's wonderful.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. We should probably get that on the other side so it doesn't go across your body there. That's 100% on me. We did not test that until right now. Your first guest on. Hey, thank you for joining us.

[Gumpy]

Absolutely. Thanks for having me.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so tell us about your work with Experian. So I think, if I remember correctly. Sure. From watching Experian's like, hey, they're auto paying the shit out of you right now. Right. That's their thing. And experience, like, we can figure it out for you.

[Gumpy]

They're trying to save you time and money, which is what we all want. Right. You download the app. App, you can cancel your subscriptions that you don't use because everybody knows you. You get on a subscription, you forget about it and you're over here just reoccurring payments every single month, every single year. So they help you do all that. They do all the work for you and help you save time and money.

[Pat McAfee]

I think that was pretty good promo there, buddy. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

How'd I do it on the field. Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

How many of those is this? How many of these Experian interviews have you done?

[Gumpy]

This is my first one.

[Pat McAfee]

Crushed it. Wow. I don't know what the rest is going to look like because you're going to have to deliver with the same energy. Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

But it is a good message. Yeah. And I love it. I think in the world that we're in currently, especially if it's like 3.99.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Something's like 3. 9. If something is the same price as an express order on doordash, you're gonna take it and then you're never gonna see it again. Yeah. And these companies are just living off of it. Yeah. Just.

[Gumpy]

You just. It slides under the radar for so long, but then it just accumulates. Accumulates. And then it's like, damn, I'm like, I'm out.

[Pat McAfee]

I just spent 900 on something that I'm never gonna use in my life.

[Gumpy]

That's it.

[Pat McAfee]

We appreciate you joining us. And you talk about saving time and money. We're just gonna forget in the memory capsule last season, Fred, what we. Did you guys know about Christian?

[Gumpy]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

We had no idea, dude. We had no clue. I think whenever that popped up out of nowhere for us, they were like Achilles arthritis. I think it pops up on both. On both. That came out of nowhere for us. For you, if it came out of nowhere, obviously, that's incredibly startling. But what is the mindset going into the season? And do you feel like that's just kind of what the season became?

[Gumpy]

Yeah. I mean, it came out of nowhere for him. Honestly, I feel like talking to him. I've talked to him throughout all the off season since he's been here, and he felt great. You know, we got married and was on cloud nine thinking that, all right, we're coming back to win a Super bowl. Coming off an offensive player of the year type of year last year. And so it was a shock to him. Shock to us. He's one of our best players, if not the best. And so. So I'm excited for him going into this season to just get back healthy. Right. Get back out on the field. We need him. We need him in order to be successful. You saw it. And then obviously dealing with a bunch of other injuries this past season, we just got to wipe that. Put that away. That didn't happen.

[Pat McAfee]

Save time and money in your bag.

[Gumpy]

Save time and money and, man, save stress off of my back and just go ahead and eliminate that.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So it comes out of nowhere for him. It comes out of nowhere for you guys. And you said, he's one of our best players, if not our best player. The reason why it's not easy to say best player is because you guys have so many. So many good players legitimately. That's why the season, as we're watching along, like, that had to be. I don't want to say excruciating, but that had to be a miserable time. I just. Punter, okay. On team. Just punter on team. Whenever Peyton was quarterback and that whole crew was there. Right. We went undefeated my first year. Wow. Until they chose to lose once again. I'm very small. Then we win again, Then we win again, and then we go 2 in 14 and almost lose every single game. Life is miserable whenever you're losing. Then we get back to being good. And when Andrew gets there again, thank God Andrew comes in there. But it's like when you're losing, life is terrible. You guys haven't experienced that much, right? Exactly.

[Gumpy]

It's different when you've only experienced losing because that's the standard. Bingo. We've developed a standard of winning. We've been to NFC championships year after year, two Super Bowls, obviously haven't surpassed, you know, the mountaintop to hoist that trophy, but we're so close, right? And so this was the season. This was the one. We were going to do it, and then all of a sudden, everything falls into shambles and it's like, damn, I thought we were past this. Like, my rookie year. I think we only won, like, six games. I thought we were past this. But, hey, it's good for you, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe long run, you'll be able to look back.

[Gumpy]

Exactly. It humbles the hell out of you, and you learn from it and then you grow from it to ultimately get back next year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. We can't wait to watch you guys back. AJ Has a question for you.

[Boston Connor]

First off, how's your ankle feeling? We know you played the whole year on this fractured ankle. When did it happen? How did it happen? And how were you able to actually play through it and have such an unbelievable year?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, I appreciate it. It happened in Week 4 against the Patriots. You know, it was a simple frac. A simple ankle sprain that happened to pull the bone, you know, and it's just one of those nagging things because injuries, it's like, all right, they're either bad enough to keep you off the field or just good enough so you can keep playing. Right? So it was one of those things where I was good enough to just keep playing. And try to work through it.

[Boston Connor]

Did it get better as the year went or worse? I would imagine worse.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. What are you doing? We doing needles? We're doing acupuncture.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, I won't. I won't get into the. To the specifics, but there was a lot behind the scene work, you said.

[Pat McAfee]

What.

[Gumpy]

What, your urine baths?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

That's what you was doing.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I was not doing.

[Boston Connor]

I don't know. I mean, see all your money.

[Pat McAfee]

I was good. I'm just saying, people, no stone left on turn.

[Boston Connor]

You know, to get healthy, how you got to fill a bathtub with pee.

[Pat McAfee]

And then, from what I heard, they go just one in, one foot. Missed.

[Gumpy]

Okay, good.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't. I didn't do this. I'm just saying there is a lot of weird things people do to try to get back to being healthy.

[Gumpy]

We'll see what the hotel room's talking about.

[Chris Felica]

Bingo.

[Gumpy]

I might, you know, try that out.

[Pat McAfee]

What about those seats in the corner? We don't have to talk about it, but. So whenever we're. Whenever we're talking about the angle. What. What was it? What. What did you do? Like. Like, what was the. Every day was trying to get that thing healthy. Right.

[Gumpy]

I mean, every day, you know, you're trying to obviously get it to a good enough spot to then go out and perform at your best on Sunday.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, we appreciate your c. But it's.

[Gumpy]

Not just me, man. That's what everybody does. It's the NFL.

[Pat McAfee]

Not everybody. Listen, you need to know that if that's happening with everybody in your locker room, you need to be pumped, and you need to bottle that.

[Gumpy]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Because there's some places it's not happening.

[Gumpy]

I hear you.

[Pat McAfee]

Darius has a question for you.

[Darius Butler]

People. Coaches always talk about, you know, this game, you know, trying to make it just another game. What was your experience like compared to your first super bowl, to your second super bowl, as far as the preparation and actually playing in the game, like, everything that leading up to it and actually when that moment is.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, I mean, it was. It was super helpful my first time around, having a guy like Richard Sherman, who had been there, one, one, and, you know, to pick his brain about how to. How to approach the game. So I did. I felt like I went to end of the game, you know, well prepared, thinking about the game the right way, had an interception in the game, and late in the game, I'm thinking, oh, man, I'm about to win Super Bowl MVP. Like, we finna win. We up by what, 10 points in the fourth quarter, not a lot of time. And then things unfolded how they did. So then I learned from that experience, like, man, you better not get too high on your horse before the clock hits triple zero. And I feel like I carried that over into the second game, right where I stayed, even killed. But we had this situation with Dre Greenlaw where he turns his Achilles crazy, and it was just such an emotional dump. Like, it was. I mean, going in at halftime, seeing him, like, going through those emotions. So it was just a lot. And then obviously, it was a long game because you go into overtime and you have to try to be one of the best to ever do it in overtime. And so it just didn't go our way.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, on that. Diggs has a question for you.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

You talk about that overtime game last year, and I was watching it a little bit of it back yesterday, and the Chiefs, they just do so much off of the same formation, and a lot of teams do that now, but the Chiefs do it a ton. They do it a lot in the playoffs, and it's a lot of Pat on the edge on short yardage, like, going back. Did you like your game plan last year and what do you think the Eagles game plan could or should be going into this one to just, you know, try to slow that Chiefs offense down?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, I mean, I loved our game plan. I thought we came out hot. I mean, you got to remember, if you go back a year ago in those play in that playoff last year, we were getting a lot of. A lot of heat on defensively because of the way we were playing the run game against the packers against the Lions, you know, they were running through us.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Gumpy]

And so we were going in the cheese game with a huge chip on our shoulder because nobody gave us a chance to halt, you know, Patrick Mahomes in the Chiefs offense. And so we came out humming, you know, and we were. I felt like we played well for three and a half quarters, you know, until it wasn't. So that's. That's the super bowl, man. You got to keep your head down and stay present in the moment all the way through to the very end until the clock hits triple zero and ultimate to hoist that trophy at the end.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Patrick's special, though, huh?

[Gumpy]

Man, he's all right.

[Pat McAfee]

It's crazy. It does feel like there's just some people that just have, like, the it.

[Gumpy]

Got the it. Yeah. There's such thing as, like, having been there, done that, and being able to win the big game, and he's been able to do that.

[Pat McAfee]

Obviously, over and over again, Travis Kelsey.

[Gumpy]

This guy, it's pretty good.

[Pat McAfee]

Why? Why is he so good, you think? Now, obviously, George Kittle, we were big fans of Top of Game too. Like, let's not. We're not gonna act like there's what Brock Bauer is seemingly about to go. Yeah. Like there's a lot of incredible. But Travis Kelsey, for how long he's done it.

[Gumpy]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

And everything he's done in the playoffs, he's gonna go down. Goat conversation. For good reason, by the way. Ohio guy. But what is it about him? He just runs his own shit.

[Gumpy]

They say, there you go. I mean, it's honestly his mind. I don't know what he thinks about. I don't know how he approaches the game. But the savvy that he plays with is unlike any other tight end. Because when you go and you watch a tight end all week long and preparing for the guy, you're like, okay, he runs his corner out. Like he's gonna run a corner route or he's gonna run an in route. With Travis, he's. He might have a corner route on, but he'll run a post, you know what I'm saying? Or he'll just kind of find some space and just sit down. And then you think you got him in coverage and then he just works away from you.

[Pat McAfee]

And he's got a Hooper.

[Gumpy]

He's a Hooper.

[Pat McAfee]

That's where it really feels like. He's a Hooper.

[Gumpy]

He's a Hooper. And he talk a little trash, too. So then he getting in your mind game too. So it's like, dang, do I talk trash? Do I not talk trash? So, hey, are you a trash Travis here? Nah, I don't talk no trash, man. I just go out there, I play the game, baby.

[Pat McAfee]

You said if Travis hear this, though, you're about to send him a message. I was about to hear. You're about to trash talking.

[Gumpy]

Hey, listen, hopefully this is his last season. You know, he retires, goes off into the sunset, and we ain't got to deal with him.

[Pat McAfee]

It's not. He said he's back three years, maybe four years, maybe five years.

[Gumpy]

He just keep going and going.

[Pat McAfee]

Speaking of. Not next season, though, Connor has a question for you.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Fred? A few years with different defensive coordinators, and now you guys are bringing back Bob Sala, who, you know, obviously he's running stadiums, he's doing all that cool shit. How do you feel about him coming back? And you think that is kind of like a consistency that you'll get Back in the building after having those years of different coaches.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, super excited, man. I love Salah, love everything about him. He was one of the few coaches, the draft process is horrible when. Unless you're like the first overall pick, maybe I don't know how it is for those guys in the first round. They might get talked up, but for a guy like me who's trying to.

[Pat McAfee]

Prove himself, you're in third rounder.

[Gumpy]

By the way, I was a third round draft pick, but I was. I had a bunch of teams telling me like, oh, you can't do this, you're not this, you're not that. And then I took my 30 visit with the Niners and I'm in there with Coach Salt and his obvious like, man, I really like your game. Like, this is how I see you playing in our system and this is the first time I'm hearing these things. So I'm like, man, this guy, Coach Salad, he's the best. And so they drafted me and I'm super excited. And then. And just had all the belief in the world to stay with me even through a rocky rookie season as a starter, you know, and see it through. But, man, I love them. Happy to be back with him.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you. Your conditioning seemingly better than everybody. You're all over the place. It is insane to watch you fly around. So is that all year? Are you taking time off after season? What is the. How do you get to be you?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, no, I mean, I'm flying. I'm on that treadmill tonight. As soon as I get back to hotel, man. Just getting back in. No, I'm just playing, bro. You got. You got to take some time away. You got to take some time away. Do stuff like this with you, man.

[Pat McAfee]

And then, you know, come on. And also save people time and money.

[Gumpy]

Time and money with experience. Download the app today. Where's the camera?

[Pat McAfee]

Either one. You want camera shot. Hey, Experian, let's. Let's go. Let's get some more of my Warners wife in a commercial here. This pro.

[Gumpy]

We'll get another. We'll get another commercial going soon. Don't worry.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, and then another one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuz it's such a good product.

[Gumpy]

Absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

And you're such a good representation of obviously time and money. You want to save that? You pay the money to Fred and he'll speed things up. Dude never stops.

[AJ Hawk]

No, he doesn't.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, you're a maniac. I went to that. What was it, the Seahawks game? Yeah, Seahawks, Niners game. And I'm up in the booth with Kirk and Al. Okay. Because we're doing game day somewhere. So it was just like, stop at the Seahawks game. Never been there before. I want to see what it is. Bosa looks like a jungle cat.

[Gumpy]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

He literally takes up like an entire five yards somehow. That's 15ft. I don't know how he. See, it's like, holy, this thing is much bigger in person than you could ever imagine. And then he is just a thousand miles an hour. And then you said you don't talk trash. You guys all talk. Now that I'm thinking back, your entire defense chirps.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, there's a little bit of an alter ego there. I'll say it.

[Pat McAfee]

You just lied, though. I literally just had to relive this because the reason why. Remember, I came back and I was like, they're fast. They all talk. Everybody, literally.

[Chris Felica]

You said super bowl immediately.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but, like, is that defense the same. Like, Salah's going to be able to come back and you guys are just. Have you been running the similar defense, same defense with the crew? Because the. The people you have. Because you have pillars on that defense seemingly everywhere that we see every single season.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So is it the same defense?

[Gumpy]

It's a similar scheme, yes. You got to continue to try to evolve. Obviously, teams don't just pick up on what you're doing and just attack you, but similar scheme will make some. Some adjustments, though, for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

NFC west, it's only getting tougher.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right.

[Gumpy]

Is.

[Pat McAfee]

Is.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, I know It's. It's tough.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys were the Kings for a long time. Remember that?

[Ty Schmidt]

Kind of this year.

[Gumpy]

Don't worry. I know. I know you hate her. Don't worry about that.

[AJ Hawk]

What's your relationship like with Brock Purdy? Because we've been big fans of his, and for the last several years, regardless of what he's done on the field, it's kind of been like, hey, this guy stinks. They have Christian McCaffrey, they have George Kittle, they have all these weapons. And even last year, now everyone's saying, like, hey, you can't pay this guy. The Niners can't pay this guy. They were in their window when he wasn't making anything. Have you noticed him kind of take more of a leadership role? Because everyone talks about how he's just quiet, kind of docile, played at Iowa State. What's your relationship like with him? And have you noticed, like, has he kind of taken that next step?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

I mean, anybody who listens to me knows that I love Brock Purdy. You know, I love everything about him. The way that he's made up the player that he is. His story, I mean, that's my thing is like, how can you hate on a guy when he has a story that he's had and the success that he's brought to our team as mystery, relevant last pick in the draft. Right? Like, I don't know of anybody else who's been the last pick in the draft, has been a starter, even a starter for a football team, nonetheless, a franchise quarterback. You know what I'm saying? And he took a huge leap this year in leadership, I think, just being in command of not only the offense, but the team as well, you know? And so, I mean, he's been awesome, man. The sky's the limit for this kid. I can just go all day with him. But. But he's. He's been.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you talking about here? John Deere tractors? What do you think in that picture right there?

[Gumpy]

Oh, we were talking about the good old Bible right there.

[Pat McAfee]

Really?

[Gumpy]

No, I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know.

[Gumpy]

He. He is a man of God, man.

[Trey Hendrickson]

So.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, how does that work? How's that work? Mormons verse. Non Mormons. Legitimately.

[Gumpy]

We got to get Kyle on we go have a full discussion about it.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I am. I. Massive respect to the Mormons, Mass respect to all religions. Hey, listen. What? Somebody's gonna be right. Can't wait. You know, like. And hopefully it's. It's the side that you were on, but, like, and all that legitimately, that's how I feel. And I have nothing but respect for the Mormons because Austin Cauley. I think I've told this story before.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, no, Austin.

[Pat McAfee]

Austin Cauley. And I got drafted in same class. Even though he's 14 years older than me, you know. Yes, I know how the entire thing. But he was married, had a family. He was awesome. And who was gonna be the president? The Mormon.

[AJ Hawk]

Mitt Romney.

[Pat McAfee]

Mitt Romney is gonna be the president. And I knew nothing about Mormons. I'd never met a Mormon. I'm from Pittsburgh and went to West Virginia. So I literally just through one conditioning period with Austin Cauley. 30 minutes. I'm like, I just want to hear it. I just want to. What are we all. And it's just like, you broke it down. Broke it down. Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

But I do not know the ins and outs of it. Totally.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You and Brock.

[Gumpy]

Nobody does.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, that's John. John.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Joseph.

[Ty Schmidt]

Joseph Smith.

[Pat McAfee]

Joseph.

[Gumpy]

Joseph Austin. Obviously didn't do a great job years ago.

[Pat McAfee]

Years ago.

[Gumpy]

Basic fundamental.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, yeah, that's the bottom line. Yeah. That is how you get into this entire thing. Locker room, though. Everybody likes each other. Yeah. A lot of. A lot of superstars, right?

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of egos. Too many.

[Ty Schmidt]

Too many. Some say.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, no, no, no, we won't say that. You got to have ego. All right. If you want to be the best in the game, I'm not going. There's got to be a little bit of that. But inside the locker room, I feel like everybody's. Everybody's great, man. Everybody's homies, everybody, you know, you got cool. Chop it up. Yeah, we got cool dudes all over.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ has a last question for you here.

[Boston Connor]

What about John Lynch?

[Pat McAfee]

How.

[Boston Connor]

How involved is he day to day? And do you guys and the rest like the rest of players on your staff know how good of a player this dude? An absolute headhunter back there when you could take dudes heads off at the safety position.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, we wouldn't know unless Kyle Shanahan played clips of it in our team meetings.

[Boston Connor]

Really?

[Gumpy]

Yeah. You know, there's been. There's been times, I don't know if it's offseason in season where, you know, John might talk to the team and then we'll play a little clip of him.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, good.

[Gumpy]

Back in the day, just beheading cats.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. Like he gets like an entrance video.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Entrance. Well, I mean, rightfully so is John lynch. And it's like crazy to even think like John lynch is your GM him, you know what I'm saying? But that just tells you everything you need to know about who he's looking at to add to the roster and add to the team who, what type of players that we want because of how he played.

[Pat McAfee]

I also like to Cal Shanahan's like, hey, just for you that are in the room that do not know born.

[Gumpy]

In the 2000s now, it's like they don't even know what this. Hey, you see why is the film grainy?

[Pat McAfee]

You see this bland looking white right here in this, in this suit? You see what's going on here? Let us remind you real quick. Quick. Okay. This guy is a man. He's in two ring of honors.

[Gumpy]

Oh, yeah, he's a gold jacket.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Hall of Famer.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's two ring of honors. That like good enough career in two different places. Like. Yeah. Greatest of all time through the first.

[AJ Hawk]

Pitch in the history of the Florida Marlins franchise as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo. Wow. Yeah. Hashtag. Hashtag. Yeah, actually, you should drop that to John. Every year you guys have some contract track thing.

[Gumpy]

Yes. That's what happens when you have really.

[Pat McAfee]

Good players because of every. Yeah. Everything we're talking about.

[Chris Felica]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

How do you guys handle it? Like, when somebody. There was a lot of those videos. Old buddy was just walking around practice. IUK was walking around practice with a backpack, and we were. This was the stories. We were talking about what's going to happen today on the IUK front, because he was maybe going to be a Steeler, he was maybe going to be a Patriot, so he was in our world a lot. And it felt like pretty big news, too, what was happening. So whenever he's just showing up at practice and then we're trying to guess what the conversations are, locker room is like, hey, you got to do your business. And as soon as he's back, all good.

[Gumpy]

That's it.

[Pat McAfee]

That's how you guys view it?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, it has to be. You know, I mean, because at the end of the day, like, the whole business side, nobody knows outside of football.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Gumpy]

How that whole business side goes. It gets. You know, obviously both sides are competing to see. Obviously, I want the most versus I want to give you the least.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Gumpy]

And so it's like, at the end of the day, you got to come together in consensus to get something done that both sides can agree on. The players have nothing to do with that, that are not involved in the deal, you know, and that's. That's their situation. Let them handle that. And then when he gets back, welcome open arms, and let's get to work.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, that's good, because I think we said that that's probably exactly how it went. But, boy, whenever he was bopping around that practice. That was awesome. Yeah, that was an awesome day on the Internet.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, that was awesome. That was just so much drama from us, you know, like the outside looking in, especially with how the year was going. And DBUT has a question for you.

[Darius Butler]

I just want to ask which way you leaning? It's early in the week. I know you're pretty more familiar with these teams than we are. Which way you lean?

[Pat McAfee]

If you.

[Darius Butler]

If you are leaning a certain way.

[Gumpy]

Yeah, no, I mean, if they could both lose, then that. I think that ultimately be the best result possible, right? I don't know. I don't know, man. I mean, there's something to be said about having been there and done it, but the Eagles are loaded. I think it's going to be a great game. I don't know who's going to win, but it's going to be a good one to watch.

[Pat McAfee]

So when you play a team like the Eagles, like, what's Saquon doing? What he's doing. Do you think. Okay, you're the right person to ask this question to, as I'm fully prepared to this entire interview on what I should ask you.

[Gumpy]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

We think run game becoming much more prevalent.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

It's like cyclical happening right in front of our eyes, Right? Yeah. It's a cycle went through pass game, which I think you benefited from because you were fast. You could run. Sure. Side to side. So I think linebackers had to get smaller because they had to be able to take over.

[Gumpy]

Call me small.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that's what he did.

[Gumpy]

Smaller.

[Pat McAfee]

Smaller.

[Gumpy]

All right.

[Pat McAfee]

How much you weigh? How much you weigh?

[Gumpy]

235.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Erlacher was like 265 or something. Oh, yeah.

[Gumpy]

So it's been a dramatic change.

[Pat McAfee]

I think AJ was playing, like 245, 250. Okay.

[Boston Connor]

Early on.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah. So it was big. You had to be big because you were hitting, hitting, hitting.

[Gumpy]

There you go a lot more running these days.

[Pat McAfee]

Then it got spread out. You got to be able to run for sure. Now there's teams that are trying to take advantage of maybe the size of that and run games coming back.

[Gumpy]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys can feel that in your game planning week to week and everything like that.

[Gumpy]

Yeah. I mean. I mean, I think for forever in time, the run game's got to be there in order to open up the pass game. For that to be effective, you have to have an effective run game. And I know for a fact that our offense. You know, for as long as I've been here, I've heard Coach Shanahan talk about how important the run game is. So, I mean, it is cyclical, though. You know, I think it is a matter of smaller guys playing out there on defense. You want to take advantage of that, so then you get bigger guys, and then you spread it out a little bit more. So it's just going to continue to just go around and circle.

[Pat McAfee]

Are you an NBA fan?

[Gumpy]

A little bit. I. You know, but I. I saw the news, Luca.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Yeah. You.

[Pat McAfee]

You're.

[Gumpy]

You're a huge fan of. I see the basketball at your feet.

[Pat McAfee]

No, that's because there's a hoop over here. You wanted to try to give away some money.

[Gumpy]

Give away some money? Yeah, sure.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. You'll get a chance to shoot. All right.

[Gumpy]

I might make myself look a little silly. Right here. But I don't mind.

[Pat McAfee]

Bad balls.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, no.

[Pat McAfee]

Football.

[Darius Butler]

Too light.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's too light. Way too late. Way too late. I think you're.

[Gumpy]

How about you give a shot?

[Pat McAfee]

No, your granny shot.

[Boston Connor]

Give me.

[Gumpy]

No. Give a shot.

[Pat McAfee]

No, your granny shot. You have four opportunities.

[Gumpy]

Four opportunities. I can't just do a regular shot from right here.

[Pat McAfee]

He can whatever you want. You doing everything.

[Ty Schmidt]

Watch out for the light.

[Pat McAfee]

I think that's going to be a tough line. Driving liner.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I think what you are attempting to do right now is going to be very difficult. You got it.

[Boston Connor]

Is that boat really Warner?

[Gumpy]

It's Fred Warner Liner Markets.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Gumpy]

Like.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, Fred. Fred, if you're able to make this shot right here.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Gumpy]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

We will give 30 people $500. Wow. To repost this video. Say something nice to somebody and put the easiest way to pay them. Shout out to Fred and Experian. If that happens. This is on.

[Gumpy]

What is it?

[Pat McAfee]

The platform formerly known as Twitter.

[Gumpy]

Okay, good.

[Pat McAfee]

Fred, you do a lot of social.

[Gumpy]

I'm not big on the socials.

[Pat McAfee]

No. You dance on Tick Tock, huh?

[Gumpy]

No, I don't do the Tick Tocks. Here we go.

[Pat McAfee]

30 people. 30 people. Oh, yeah, right.

[Gumpy]

There's no weight in the ball. That was going in.

[Darius Butler]

That was close.

[Gumpy]

Oh, my goodness.

[Pat McAfee]

Fred, here's the thing. If you met. Let's double it. Come on.

[AQ Shipley]

Whoa.

[Boston Connor]

All right.

[Gumpy]

It's all part of the plan right here.

[Boston Connor]

Shout out Experience.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, shout out to Experience. You want to say time and money. Download the Experience app today. Shout out to Fred Warner delivering that mess.

[Gumpy]

Come on, Fred.

[Pat McAfee]

If you make that ball into that hoop right over there.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

We'll give 50 people 500. Wow. All they'll have to do is repost this video, say something nice to somebody, and put the easiest way to pay them on X. And if you make it, I think they'll say, wow. Fred Warner is a hero.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that guy.

[Pat McAfee]

I think they'll say, wow. Experian is such a good ass. Wow. How convenient is that? Not only. Not only did I win 500, I saved 500. Wow. That's what you could do for 50 people who win 500. Here we go.

[Gumpy]

Everybody got their cameras out for this right here.

[Pat McAfee]

There is a big camera on you right now. Oh, oh, oh.

[Ty Schmidt]

You got too jacked up.

[Pat McAfee]

You're too jacked up. We've seen that a thousand times.

[Gumpy]

We said I was gonna have four tries, though, so. Same, Same deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Same deal.

[Ty Schmidt]

Run the tape.

[Pat McAfee]

Run the tape back.

[Gumpy]

Run the Tape back.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I agree. I agree. But you're saying same deal, we'll jack it up a little bit more.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Experience.

[Gumpy]

Save time and money.

[Pat McAfee]

You're right. Let's. You're right.

[Gumpy]

You got to spend money to save money.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, well, not with experience. All you gotta do is download the app.

[Gumpy]

That's it. Just download the app and you. You good.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, four time all pro linebacker Fred Warner from the San Francisco 49ers here with our friends at Experience Experian.

[Boston Connor]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

What a great app. Great.

[Boston Connor]

Great commercial too, honestly.

[Gumpy]

Thank you, man. I appreciate it.

[Boston Connor]

Made me want to go.

[Chris Felica]

I already have it.

[Darius Butler]

I got the boost too.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Experian Boost.

[Pat McAfee]

What? Wow. Yeah, your credit.

[Chris Felica]

Credit score.

[Darius Butler]

Quick boost instantly.

[Chris Felica]

Also my credit file. My credit file is locked, so nobody.

[Pat McAfee]

Can steal my idea. Yeah, I got. Yeah, it's already on. It's already on.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Fred, if you're able to make this shot for the good people at Experian.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

A hundred people will win $500.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Holy shite.

[Pat McAfee]

Here on our first day down on Radio Row. Fred, you could be a hero to 100 people.

[Boston Connor]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. 100 people.

[Gumpy]

This was all a part of the plan. By the way, I've been missing on purpose to try to get you to do this.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you said, let me throw this one through the backboard on the last one because you knew something bigger was coming. 100 people. 500 shout out to experience. Saving you time and money.

[Gumpy]

Me, we got to get you on a commercial. By the way.

[Pat McAfee]

No, thank you. Oh, this guy sucks.

[Gumpy]

All right, we'll just do it anyway. How about that?

[Pat McAfee]

That's not actually works. Winners and losers. Fred, if you were to shoot one more time, you think you football shots.

[Gumpy]

Are over with, you're done with it. I mean, I'll do it again.

[Pat McAfee]

Why.

[Gumpy]

But you know, do you think you.

[Pat McAfee]

Would make it though? That's what I'm saying.

[Boston Connor]

You got the next one?

[Gumpy]

Absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Okay. You got to splash. This was the plan all along. The plan was to build a little bit of hype, a little bit of.

[Chris Felica]

Excitement right in your shooting pocket.

[Pat McAfee]

A little bit of. A little bit of wonder. Is Fred Warner, four time all pro going to be able to bury a basketball shot here down at Radio Row for Super Bowl 59? If he is able to do it. Very light ball. That ball is tough to control. Slick, Very slick. Just one gusto through here and that thing would be blown off course.

[Gumpy]

I've hit it in the same exact spot.

[Ty Schmidt]

To be fair, there are jingle bells on the rim.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

You know what that does?

[Gumpy]

It's a combination of a lot of things, I think. Mostly because I. I can't shoot. But all the other factors are, you.

[Pat McAfee]

Know what you can do. You can spread a great message on saving time and money.

[Gumpy]

That's right.

[Darius Butler]

It.

[Pat McAfee]

And that's what I learned today. Thank you for revisiting the worst year since your rookie year.

[Gumpy]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

With us today. I know that's not 2020 wasn't good either, but as you were giving answers for anybody.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Not just you, man.

[Pat McAfee]

That 2020. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Boston Connor]

It was all of us.

[Pat McAfee]

I remember it forever. But yeah, yeah, you're 100% right. Yeah. Fred. Yeah. 2020 was.

[Ty Schmidt]

What do you think?

[Pat McAfee]

That's a good call. Yeah. Yeah, I guess. Football wise, football, it wasn't too bad.

[Gumpy]

It wasn't too good either.

[Pat McAfee]

But actually we appreciate the hell out of you, man.

[Gumpy]

Thanks, brother.

[Pat McAfee]

Hopefully we get a chance to catch up soon. And we all know next year is going to be much different than this past year. For the night. And we're sorry you had to go through that, but.

[AJ Hawk]

The sun is brightest before the darkest dawn.

[Pat McAfee]

After the darkest dawn. You get it sometimes. Yeah. You never know. You got the main part of it.

[AJ Hawk]

Kind of works both ways.

[Pat McAfee]

Bolton Hour. Well, the thing about it is I think it gets. The reason why is because you've experienced the darkest.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

So now anything would be the brightest practicality though. What?

[AJ Hawk]

It's a cloudy day.

[Pat McAfee]

Never. Yeah, you're right.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's cloudy sky morning. You know.

[Pat McAfee]

Sailor take warning. Red sky at night Sailor's delight. We know it all. We know that you know. Ladies and gentlemen, Fred Warner. Than Fred. Fred. We know it all. Good.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That was 20.

[Boston Connor]

20 years.

[Pat McAfee]

Tough.

[Boston Connor]

20, 20 year. He wasn't wrong.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hey, coming to New England, we needed.

[Chris Felica]

That reminder too, man.

[Boston Connor]

Man, think about it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Think about it. Fra's cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, see you later, Fred. All right, Fred, work on that. Hey, save time and money, Fred, with Experian.

[Chris Felica]

Careful with that rope.

[Pat McAfee]

That was really good work. Thank you. Shipley will rejoin us out here, I think. I think Experian's going to be pumped that they got.

[Boston Connor]

They got really good at selling the product. Like he. Honestly, like, I understand why they hired him.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, have I ever met a Mormon that isn't good at talking? Talking?

[Gumpy]

No.

[Darius Butler]

Good point.

[Ty Schmidt]

Good question.

[Chris Felica]

I just learned a lot about the Mormons in American primeval. Primeval.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Some bad people. Yeah, just. Just throwing that out there.

[Chris Felica]

They killed a lot of people.

[Ty Schmidt]

Some of them are some bad people.

[Chris Felica]

I think that's. I think religion kills a lot of people.

[Pat McAfee]

They kill a lot of people.

[AJ Hawk]

Joe Smith was a bit of a savage, really.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. On the battlefield, I did not know anything. That is what American primeval is. Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah. They're a big part of.

[Ty Schmidt]

There were gangs and not a good one.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Because there is good gangs.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, of course.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. There is the Teamsters. Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

What are we talking about?

[Pat McAfee]

Welcome back, AQ Shepard.

[AJ Hawk]

Alan Clay.

[AQ Shipley]

Was great.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought so, too. What'd you take away from it? Anything. When you were listening in the back, what do you think? People watching at home are like, ooh, fascinating there. They didn't know about Christian McCaffrey. I think that's a big deal.

[AQ Shipley]

Well, he doubled down on. You know, it works in cycles. I think that's coming. I don't know when it's coming, but the big boys are coming back.

[Pat McAfee]

You think?

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, I think everybody's starting to run the shit out of the ball. It's going to happen in the next five years. We got to start getting bigger.

[Pat McAfee]

I think it's going to be with the modern athlete. You know, every combine, there's a new fastest human. Every combine, there's a new biggest guy to jump that high. So I think we're going to be able to have the size to stop the run game. And I think there's going to be guys that can still fly. Like, I think this linebacker position is going to be awesome to watch going forward, especially if they're going to have to thumbnail.

[Boston Connor]

You gotta be able to do it all. Now. You definitely. You used to be able to get away with being like a, you know, in the box backer every once in a while. Now there's no, like, purely in the box back where I'm just going like B gap to B gap. You got to be able to do everything. I think you're still going to have to. Even though the, you know, the big boys are coming back, but they're just looking for matchups. Hey, if you're trying to play nickel against us all day, we're going to put some big dudes in. We're going to overpower you. Like, they just want to. They want to get matchups.

[Pat McAfee]

Darius, you aren't scared to tackle. You know, that's why I saw your body lifeless on a couple fears fields. And part of it.

[Darius Butler]

I do it all. Yeah. 185.

[Pat McAfee]

That was not a stinger off the field. Right.

[Darius Butler]

That's a good teammate shout out to you.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, yes, but DBs are gonna have to. I mean, that's gonna become more and more and more and more and more. Not that, you know, DBs, there's corners, there's outliers. I think I'll watch through like NFL films to show me something and it'll be like, like Dion will go make a hit. But we're not looking to do that. Everybody single. Dude, that is not the thought. There's going to become times now where the nickel is going to be expected to make a tackle on a very high percentage of plays.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah. Nickels are starters now. And when you come in as a nickelback, you're replacing a backer. And the best run teams on offense, they force the guys on the edge to make tackles. You know, they crack, block. The best teams have good blocking receivers. So they'll go and block a safety and just leave that cornerback unaccounted for. You can see the cycles with the numbers of carries. Like last year, I don't think it was one back that had 300 carries. And this year we had five or six. All the guys that move around got paid. They did well in their new spot. So, yeah, guys get drafted higher in the position Again. Gibbs, you see what he's been able to do. So yeah, it's definitely coming back around.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so too. And what was the stat? Hembo told us like 715 rush attempts, 519 pass attempts for the Philadelphia Eagles. They are very much a run heavy offense and they happen to have the best offensive line in the game.

[AQ Shipley]

Well, I think too, just to piggyback off what DB says.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[AQ Shipley]

Like, I think there's so much speed on the outside that it forces teams into too high. And when it's too high, we're hammering the run all game.

[Boston Connor]

Yep.

[AQ Shipley]

And then once you start hammering the run game all game long, now safety's down in the box and then we, then we throw it deep.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm impressed with Kelly Mo being disciplined, sticking with the run game, especially because.

[Chris Felica]

That was not the story about Kelly Mo.

[Pat McAfee]

I know. Kel Mo scoreboard trying to get a head coaching job. Hey, I've been there before.

[Darius Butler]

You take care of the program, take care of the football. Jalen Hurts seven postseason games, no interceptions. So you take care of that football and play good defense. Usually. Good recipe.

[Pat McAfee]

On that note, with Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes and the run game. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for AP Tones battle of the day. AP Town Battle of the day. Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

Yesterday we talked about a player on each team to get a catch on Their first drive. We love the tight ends. We talked about Goddard, we talked about Kelsey, we talked about how the history was there. Today's bet is going to be about the fourth quarter and the quarterback. Rushing yards. Patrick Mahomes. Over, under fourth quarter. Rushing yards. Four and a half. Jalen hurts over under six and a half in the fourth quarter.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[Chris Felica]

There are so many ways.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. Over feels like all day. Hey, scary though, you never know.

[Chris Felica]

That is the one way to lose this because we've seen it. They take the Neil especially if there's too much time on the clock and they're trying to waste time and they got to go back 10 years or 10 yards or whatever. But both these guys like we've seen Mahomes in the fourth quarter a thousand times. Whether it's a pass play and he's flushed out and he runs for a four style way over or I talked about it with Fred. 3rd, 3rd and 1. 4th and 1. They are always putting Patrick on the edge. Run, pass option. He is easily getting the four and a half there. And Jalen different, a little bit different. He will take off and run in the pass game. But they, I mean there could be. He could have three or four like scheduled called runs.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey Juice, how do you feel about that? I didn't even think about that. Picks it up by itself automatic. The reason why that was the bat of the day I think is because when Tone presented it we all said that seems too easy. Doesn't that feel too 100%?

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, he's gonna, he's gonna break some contain and tightrope the sidelines. And they're not gonna hit him. He might get it just on the extra four yards. He gets on the tightrope that he takes advantage of the rules.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, even Mahomes last time they played the Eagles he had the ankle and that was the story. He got tackled in the second quarter or first quarter, was super injured and it was like oh okay, so Mahomes can't move. And then on their game winning drive he escaped for like, like 25 yards at the middle of the field. Cuz they weren't watching him. And that would be e easy over.

[Pat McAfee]

Also it's a Super bowl. So fourth quarter. Let's assume both these guys are going to do anything they possibly can. Yeah. And everybody scrambling for their life. Either catch up or to extend the clock. I mean it's just like he's get.

[Boston Connor]

Flushed naturally too with Phillies into your D line like they're. He's going to get flushed a little bit and have to run.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey that was AP turns better the day. What's the worst that could happen? Well they probably change the odds on it minus 110 for the that seemingly how we all feel. Yeah good odds. And now remember we did have a parlay a couple years back where all we needed was Patrick Mahomes to throw for like 220 yards or something. He had like three touchdowns and somehow only threw for 100 like 70 or.

[Ty Schmidt]

Something Burrow the year before.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah sack so you everything always looks obvious. It does which is why we're saying that's not guarantee there.

[Chris Felica]

No but we like it no such thing better.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Darius Butler]

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[Gumpy]

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[AQ Shipley]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[AQ Shipley]

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[Pat McAfee]

I suppose you could hold your computer mouse while you chat with the expert.

[AQ Shipley]

About capital gains or whatever, which is sort of like holding hands.

[Pat McAfee]

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[AQ Shipley]

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[Pat McAfee]

Tax act let's get them over with. Breath Football it is wonderful. It's a celebration this week down here in New Orleans. I think it is every week, most weeks down here, but this week we're celebrating ball in. Everybody that talks about sports has come to this wonderful town that's known for hosting people and having a good time. We'll be trying to do as such while chit chatting with people we don't get to talk to all year because everybody's here now. The bathroom is about 70 yards that way. So as soon as that clock struck 57 and we went to a break, there is a full home alone at the airport. Sprint to the bathroom over here. Almost didn't make it back. But I'll tell you, this place is beautiful and it is certainly filling up. We're lucky to be here. Trey Hendrickson will join us in about 10 minutes from the Cincinnati Bengals. He's. He knows this area.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Very well. He knows this area very well. Can I wait to check chat with him. The toxic tables here at Boss Connor and at Tai Schmidt. Sweet shirt, con man. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Thank you very much. I actually screwed up the order on it. It shouldn't have been all black, of course. Slop them up, sloppy steaks. We all know what we're doing here. I can't wait to slop them up later on too, with you fellas. But no, no, this is a nice one. I've been waiting to break this one out. It's. It's a good. It's a good little shirt.

[Pat McAfee]

It looks very professional. You look like you're dressed up and the hair. A lot of people commenting. Really bringing your A game at Super Bowl.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Daniel. I figured this is the year, you know, hey, let's stop. Let's stop screwing around. We're growing up, you know, this isn't our first rodeo. I might as well act like it for.

[Pat McAfee]

We've been here a lot.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it's kind of. It's kind of crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

It is wild because although this is like, you know, we've only been on ESPN now last two years, two seasons here. We've been coming here a long time.

[AJ Hawk]

Long time.

[Pat McAfee]

And we never understood why ESPN didn't come here. No, I legitimately never.

[Ty Schmidt]

Still don't.

[Pat McAfee]

Still. Still don't get it. Still still don't fully understand. Still not doing it because you can really feel it, you know? And everybody in here loves the game. Everybody loves sport or at least covers the game and loves the sport. And it's. There's an actual palpable buzz. It's like, it feels like super bowl week.

[AJ Hawk]

It does.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, while the show has gone on, I've been like, thinking to myself, yeah, it's Super bowl you know, it's almost like. I don't want to say I was kind of forgetting about that, but then as it was going, it's like, man, Jake Laser just walked by over what? Yeah, I mean, it's just like the amount of people that walking by, it's like we're in the. We're in the game now. And shout out to New Orleans for being the host and shout out to the football community coming together to celebrate a hell of a season.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, without a doubt. And like you said, you know, if we were, you know, at some restaurant or some beer garden, you're not getting that. You're not getting Glaze walking by and just everybody on the set, you know, I mean, is it a little distracting?

[Pat McAfee]

Sure.

[AJ Hawk]

Because, you know, you see Jay Glazer, your eyes go right to him.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, that's the thing. I was talking to Fred here, and then literally everybody in the back head.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. Turn that way. And Mark Ingram said, hi. Okay, so my. I still didn't. To this moment, I had no idea who it was because I didn't want to disrespect Fred, but I couldn't wait to hear who was potentially walking by because it could be anybody. Exactly one half of the Hammer Cowboys AP Tone is here. Just gave out his bet of the day. The over under on quarterback rush yards in the fourth quarter. Seemingly lower than we would expect for both of these quarterbacks. I like that we're giving those out. Maybe a little. Hey, something to think about.

[Chris Felica]

We got plenty. I mean, there are thousands and thousands of bets for the Super Bowl. It is the greatest spectacle of all time as far as the betting world is concerned. So we'll have more tomorrow, more the day afterwards.

[Pat McAfee]

What's the national anthem time?

[Chris Felica]

So, you know, since sports betting has moved to not offshore and legal, they don't really do that anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, that's bull.

[Darius Butler]

Who's singing it?

[Chris Felica]

I don't even know who's singing it.

[Pat McAfee]

You got to pay attention. Mentioned who did it at the Royal Rumble. That lady.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't know, but it was the over.

[Pat McAfee]

Incredible. It was good and it was wrong. It was good. I mean, good lord.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it was long.

[AQ Shipley]

I get it, but it was long.

[Ty Schmidt]

Look, there's one thing you don't remix, okay? And that's national.

[Pat McAfee]

She said all the words out of herself.

[Ty Schmidt]

She was giving herself 10 seconds in between words.

[Boston Connor]

Beautiful.

[Pat McAfee]

She was breathing because she wanted to make sure she hit it properly. Absolutely beautiful. It was long. It was a long one, though. Yeah, very long.

[Ty Schmidt]

But good.

[Pat McAfee]

I actually got 120 seconds, allegedly is what Chat is saying at the moment for the national anthem. But as I was sitting there, I like kind of got emotional for a second because it was like Lucas Oil stadium, you know, and you're like doing it and the place is packed out and it's like, oh, this is, it's pretty cool little thing here. Yeah. You know, for my life, it's a pretty cool thing. So I started like getting a little emotional and I'm staring at that window and I'm like, I fucking hate that. Yeah, like that window was my, my, that's my enemy there. Right. Because when that window was open, that thing was a wind tunnel. And my life was worse than everybody else's on the field whenever that happened. So I hated that thing. So literally as I was standing there, I was like, you know, talking through the window. Good to see you again. You know, and then look over at the Jumbotron. It's in there. Then I'm having a moment like it's pretty cool. Looks all stadium feel like this is a good moment that, you know, I should take in this pretty cool thing. And then all of a sudden I'm like, where are we? She was two, she was two sentences in.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh yeah, yeah, that's it. We were 15 second pauses.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean I looked at Cole at one point. Holy the bears here. But I looked at Cole at one point. I think we were both like, we got a long way to go here.

[Ty Schmidt]

What's going on?

[Pat McAfee]

But it was great. She nailed every note.

[Gumpy]

She did.

[Pat McAfee]

She nailed every single note. So it was great performance, but it was long. I agree. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butlers here looking incredibly cool.

[Darius Butler]

Yes, sir. Appreciate that.

[Pat McAfee]

Super bowl champion, college football national champion AJ Hawk is here. 12 year NFL vet, Super bowl champion AQ Shipley's here. And ladies and gentlemen, a man who works for Fox now used to work for ESPN and for Game Day. He goes by a professional name now.

[AJ Hawk]

I believe he does.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, Chris Felica, also known as Bear, wandering by and figured I'd stop by. How are you? How's life? I'm good. The College football season, 12 team playoff biggest season, longest season of all time. You've been around college for so, so long. Your thoughts on it? I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. I was not pro expansion, but it was pretty cool to have that many games and keep that many fan bases interest in it. Now the wait between the games, that's another story. But you want the seat? You want to change the seating, I assume. Yeah, the seating. The seating was a joke. You should just do it 1 through 12, 1 through 1, 2, 3, 4, get bys and we go from there. How do you feel about how cold that. Damn, those games were? That was awesome. Yeah. But if they move it to, like, a lot of us were pitching, There needs to be another round of home field games. Yes. Hell, no, dude. It would be so cold. I honestly, I don't know. And maybe this winter was different. Maybe this winter was colder.

[AJ Hawk]

I think it was cold.

[Chris Felica]

I mean, the NFL does it every year.

[Pat McAfee]

This winter was cold as shit. Yeah. And the NFL does do it. You guys look very comfortable in Columbus that night. It looked good as I was sitting on my cab. Like, I was like, disciplined. Like, ah, I wish we were doing big news, doing a show there. And I'm like, nah, actually, I know my couch is kind of nice. Ice cold. But that was a part of the conversation. Like, you know how the conversation goes around SEC bias, You know, SEC bias, SEC bias. There's a lot of that that happens. Okay. ESPN's the SEC bias is the Big Ten bias. Do you guys get that? Do they say that about you guys? Absolutely. Okay, so everybody gets attacked that. Because it is attackable. Okay, that makes sense. That helps me out a little bit more. But the conversation was like, in the sec, you got to play these big ones every single week. You know, that's what the SEC coaches say. Nick says it, Kirby says it, Lane Kiffin says it. Everybody says it. You know what the north never said back is every week late in the season, we got to play in freezing cold temperatures. So we can't be built as fast. We got to be built a little bit more physical. And that cold weather being an equalizer, I think was big for college football. It was awesome, especially with how it was, like, the coldest. It was like the north showed up too. It's like, I'm gonna make this as miserable as possible. The North. The north remembers. We're going Game of Thrones there. Will Howard did. Yeah. How'd you feel about Will Howard? Awesome.

[Boston Connor]

That was great.

[Pat McAfee]

But that. That's what the. That was the best part about the portal is like seeing a guy like Will Howard go somewhere, do, well. Indiana, like the season that they had, bringing all these guys and revamping their team with Vandy. Yeah. But. But Howard was. Was a guy who. Remember earlier in the year, it was like, ooh, is this the guy at a terrible game against Michigan? Like, can they actually do this. But he was great and that throw to Jeremiah was ridiculous. But third and 11, baby. Unbelievable. CHIP Kelly's last call basically. How about that? How about ship back to the NFL? Like it or don't like it. Good for him, Billy. He got. He got his college redemption, won his name, won his ring. When it's Chip with the, with the Buckeyes, they maybe go out to the. The Raiders there, repeat and make playoffs and life division. Life is good as an offensive coordinator, as we know.

[Boston Connor]

Yes, it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Bear. We miss you, brother. Good to see you. Tony, you have any questions for Bear?

[Chris Felica]

Yeah, we. We have to ask the Bear. Do you have a favorite bet for the Super Bowl?

[Pat McAfee]

I played under 49. Okay. I don't think it's as high scoring as people think. I think we had long time consuming drives and I don't think we're both seeing both teams in the 30 under 49. As we chit chat about how we felt about the fourth quarter rushing yards, I'm excited to get his answer because how we all feel. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So we all feel one way. Yes. So that would normally mean how do you feel about this particular prop 4th quarter rush yards for the quarterbacks. Jalen Hurts is like six and a. Six and a half yards in the fourth quarter. Patrick Mahomes four and a half yards in the fourth quarter. Obviously the kneel down is a thing, right? Exactly. We all love the over though. We all love the over for how these offenses operate and what this season has been. How do you feel? Have you thought about that? Have you heard about that and what is your immediate reaction? I got burned on Mahomes over against the Niners in 2020. We will the negative seven, negative eight.

[Boston Connor]

And that cost me by.

[Pat McAfee]

But. But I like that because I think if you probably. And I'm going to factor in that's one of the things I like. Mahomes is first carry over four and a half yards because I think you're going to see pressure. He's the one thing that the defense can't contain and prepare for is everyone's covered. That gain is seven. First down move the sixth. But I look quick there. Didn't he bear very quick. But I like that in the fourth quarter as well because you figure these teams are going to be third and third and five pass rush. Everyone covered takeoff first down. I'd go. I'd go over on both of those. Okay. All right. And we appreciate you, Chris. Good luck. Love you Bear. Love you Bear. Love you Bear. Bear's man, he's like a dancing bear there. Did you see him?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Whoa.

[Ty Schmidt]

He has so much knowledge with the.

[Pat McAfee]

Everything he really does. Yeah, that was kind of the thing at game day. I didn't get a chance to experience it, you know, because he was on his way out, basically, as I was coming in. So we got like one ear together, just. You fire something over at him, and it's just like a Rolodex actually opening in his brain. Like the way his eyes are just go through the pages, calculating, search through here, and boom. Yes, it was Jack. It was. Yes, it was. Yeah. The kid from Ohio. Yes, he's from Ohio. Yeah. Five star. Like, you see him, like, unraveling things. Like, more information. It's like special guy, special talent. I mean, I. I love my time with Bear. Hilarious human being.

[AJ Hawk]

And the other guy's not half bad either. Love.

[Pat McAfee]

Stanford Steve. Hey, he's locker room guy. Oh, yeah, Stanford Steve. Speaking of AQ Shipley here, ladies and gentlemen. All right, Kyush, what have we not talked about enough? You think in the sports world, Luka Doncic being the dumbest thing that has ever happened? Do you think Crazy. You're an NBA guy at big NBA guy. People forget. High school basketball hall of famer.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep, that's right.

[Boston Connor]

Okay, who used to dunk on that big guy?

[Pat McAfee]

Nate Hartung.

[Boston Connor]

There it is.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, he didn't dunk on Hartung.

[Pat McAfee]

Hartung dunked on him. Yeah. The toughness you see from him is because.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah, still bringing it.

[AJ Hawk]

Still bringing it.

[Darius Butler]

I thought I saw in the G League.

[Pat McAfee]

No, BYU guy, he's out. He went to BYU for, like, a cup of coffee.

[Ty Schmidt]

They don't drink.

[Boston Connor]

There it is.

[AJ Hawk]

Couple decaf Te.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so Luca Doncic y gets traded out of Dallas. We've talked about this numerous times off air as well. I. I'm trying my best best not to be like, I hate the Dallas Mavericks, okay. Like, I'm trying my best not to. Luka has become maybe other than Tyrese Halliburton and the Pacers, okay. Because I love that squad. TJ McConnell, spicy P. And the boys love them. Okay? Good people, too. Been great in Indianapolis. We appreciate the hell out of him. It's all of a sudden, like, Luca's big baby face of mys. Oh, yeah. It's like Luca put this place in this organization on his back. From what we're watching, from what matters on the court, what the actual business, what the actual thing is all the way to the finals. And then a couple people in the building we don't like the way this guy goes about doing what he's doing. We want. And they just run his ass out of town. Pretty much. That's crazy to happen to a star in the NBA. But I guess it should kind of reframe our idea that all the stars run the NBA. Sure. You know, like, maybe it's not like that. Maybe it is. Maybe it does have some NFL in it where people will let pettiness or think that their super geniuses get in the way of decisions. I mean, it's. It was a wild move. What are your thoughts on it?

[AQ Shipley]

I mean, he's 25 years old, and he's a top three player in the NBA.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[AQ Shipley]

I mean, at the end of the day, in his prime, and you just let him walk out of the building. You don't let Good.

[Pat McAfee]

No, you don't want him walk you actually.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Kick his ass out.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. Get out.

[Darius Butler]

Hell.

[Boston Connor]

Out.

[Pat McAfee]

Out.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, you just don't let that happen. You just don't. I mean, it's. When you got good players and you got good people, keep them in your building.

[Chris Felica]

It's so crazy that, like, there's rumors of Giannis being traded now, and, like, normally you'd be like, well, that's definitely not happening. But now this year, like, maybe it will.

[Pat McAfee]

I only know if Seams tweets it. What did he get off the call for?

[Ty Schmidt]

He got off the call for schlub. He had a big one today, though.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you talking about? These guys are in the NBA.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's fantastic player, but when you go from Luca to a guy who isn't Luca, it is going to be a schlub. But the Milwaukee Bucks did trade for Kyle Kuzma today. They moved Chris Middleton. Yeah, that was the big one this morning, which is kind of a massive trade. But also Kyle Kuzma. Who knows?

[Pat McAfee]

Washington Wizards. We're looking into Kevin Durant, potentially.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, Pack's here. Smell me, Pack. Pac Man Jones shows here. Pac, what are you doing? Are you live down here? Yeah, I'm live. Pac Man Jones show. No, not live on the show.

[Darius Butler]

Just making my rounds.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Hey, how is great season out of you. Proud of you, buddy. Proud of you, man. Proud of you, dude. Good year, good interviews. How. How'd you get into flow? Did you enjoy the season as a whole? Yeah, I did.

[Darius Butler]

It took me a little time to.

[Pat McAfee]

Find my groove, but found my group.

[Darius Butler]

Enjoyed talking, watching you guys stealing a lot of things from y'all.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, it's all right, my brother. Over there, man.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Like the hair.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, look.

[Ty Schmidt]

Look at your jacket, man.

[Pat McAfee]

That's so cool, dude, you know, everybody can't wear whatever. Yeah, I know. Any day I could not wear any of it. But I like two mics on you smell me? I mean, you are rolling co host here. Hey, what's up, man? Dude, how you doing? So you're originally. I looked it. I looked it up a little bit. Originally from tmz, now working with Pack. Yes, sir. You guys are creating. He became Inside Pac, became an insider. You guys started breaking news after. Are you excited to be in the sports world with Pack fired up about it. Nice.

[Gumpy]

It's a rocket ship, man. We're having a blast.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so how often are we recording? Twice a week. Let's go, let's go, let's go. How's family? Family's great. They run around here. Hey, what's up, Tish? Good to see you. Good. Boys are doing good. Yeah. Hey, a lot of conversation around West Virginia right now. A lot of conversation, my boy. Hey, I think we're gonna have a quarterback that's able to throw. So maybe, you know, there's a. Maybe there's a wide receiver. Sources. How has it been going, though? It's going good, man. He's, I would say, 95% healthy. Now coming back off the knee injury. I don't know. It's going to be interesting where he picked to go. We're talking about Chris Henry Jr. Here, obviously baby boy of Slim who has been, you know, in the Pac Man Jones residence and house since then. Whenever you think about West Virginia bringing Rich Rod back. I know, I'm. We've talked about this. Obviously off air. We're back. I think he's back. We're back. It might take us a little bit, but we're back.

[Darius Butler]

We've started.

[Pat McAfee]

Start with the quarterback. We got quarterback. So, yeah, I'm pretty eager that we're.

[Darius Butler]

Win over six and a half games.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that. I think that's where we're starting. I love that that's where we're at. Easy schedule. Yes, sir. It looks pretty doable. All right. Hey, keep crushing it. We're proud of you, man. I love y'all, man.

[Chris Felica]

Sick jacket.

[Boston Connor]

It's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, AQ will do the Shipley Shuffle as our next guest will get suited and booted. This is an honor here. I feel like this is a pretty cool opportunity.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah, it does really hit you, too, like. Oh, shit, the super bowl is on Sunday. Like the last game of the year. The entire Season boils down to this. It's the best.

[Pat McAfee]

We've been a fan of this dude for a long time because doesn't wear gloves. Old school. Goes about his business.

[AJ Hawk]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Has had quite a showing for the Cincinnati Bengals. Yeah, he's from the warm, too, so. Grew up in Florida. Doing it in Cincinnati day in, day out. I respect that. Ladies and gentlemen, one of the greatest in the game in history. Sack leader from the 2024 NFL season. 35 1/2 sacks over the last two years. Years. Ladies and gentlemen, Trey Hendrick.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, what up, man?

[Pat McAfee]

So stand up. Looks like. He looks like a teenager, bro. Looks like a teenager.

[Boston Connor]

I like these little Nike.

[Ty Schmidt]

Nice, Nice.

[Boston Connor]

I want those. Nike slip.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's got tape on his finger still.

[Boston Connor]

He probably just broke his finger.

[Pat McAfee]

Check him. Packer. Famous Teddy Karras is over to the right.

[Ty Schmidt]

The goat.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the Goat. Hey, baby. Teddy. Good to see you, dude. Good to see you, Teddy.

[Boston Connor]

Great to see you, Pat.

[Gumpy]

Got a hat for you.

[AQ Shipley]

You know I do.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, okay, let me. I can't wait to hear what you're bringing out of this. You got it. Okay. Trey, obviously teammate there. Teddy Karras, what a absolute legend. Do you know that in his sophomore year of high school, he drank a gallon of milk every day because he was trying to gain weight?

[Trey Hendrickson]

I've heard the stories. I heard the vomiting stories, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. He said he got sick and he made him feel terrible, but it didn't work. Work. But he just committed to it because he wanted to be an NFL guy. Family and NFL guy. Let's talk about you, Trey. Incredible. Hey, getting to the pastor, buddy. Yeah, appreciate it. And I mentioned it there. You're from Florida. You play in the cold in Cincinnati is where I think you've kind of done your hello, world. I'm a real player. How is Cincinnati? Been being in a cold ass city during football season? How has that been and what are your thoughts on The Cincinnati Bengals 2024 season? Season that was.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Well, you know, first off, I love Cincinnati. I mean, it's been a. It's a home to me. My son was born there. You know, tremendous opportunity to play football at a high level. You know, 2024 season. I think playoffs was the goal. You know, sitting out last two years was kind of tough, but end of the day I think we did great, you know, to rally around the guys we had and playing for a cause.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was a weird year. We were just talking to Fred Warner. Weird year for the Niners. Felt like a weird year for you guys. Because so many people were playing great, including you. So many people were playing great, but for one reason or another, it wasn't working out. When you look back on the year and you guys went on that late run, obviously when you look back on it, always had faith going to make the playoffs. Always had faith we're going to be in this thing in the end. Thought you had it on this team.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, I think, you know, when you have a guy like Joe Burrow spinning at a high level. Jamar Chase T. Higgins catching the ball, Chase Brown running it. Great O line too. You know, like you have that offense set, you know, our defense kind of found our own groove coming into the end of season and credit to Lou Anarumo for, you know, putting that together for us and leading us to a winning season.

[Pat McAfee]

So Lou Annarumo now with the Indianapolis Colts. He's friend of the program. Oh yeah, he's been on pies on. We've got a chance to chit chat with him. What type of defense do you think he brings in Indianapolis whenever it comes to like the humans he's looking for. And how did you feel as Luana Rumo, the coach for Trey Hendrickson?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Well, I was blessed to be productive under, you know, his scheme, you know, and I think he does a good job of making it a very open room. Meaning, like you can talk to him about scheme. This doesn't necessarily fit to what we think we're going to do to attack him. Very organic and, you know, he's a leader of elite men. You know, you got guys at 4 and 8 to kind of rally behind a cause and, you know, continue to win football games. And, you know, I love him. He's. He's a great friend to me. You know, he was a mentor to me as well with the kind of some of the struggles that happen as you become a successful player, you know, and through that, he's been a tremendous mentor and I wish him nothing but the best.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean about those struggles that come? First of all, I love hearing that about the new Indianapolis Colts defense coordinator. Shout out to Lou Anne Arubo. But whenever you say the struggles, whenever it comes to like becoming great, like, what do you mean by that?

[Trey Hendrickson]

You know, like it was one of those things that there were some question marks when I signed in Cincinnati originally and, you know, he's always been there and supporting me and every direction that I had to go, you know, and as I continued to grow as a player, you know, to stay humble and, you know, to be productive under his defense was. Was special.

[Pat McAfee]

Did. Did he say you should put gloves on?

[Trey Hendrickson]

He mentioned it a couple times. He saw me getting a little bloodied up and he's like, you probably should throw gloves on, but, you know, I'm too far gone.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so what is it you like to feel?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, it's an old style mentality. I think tape does the job. You know, Sam thinks I'm not, but, you know, it is what it is.

[Pat McAfee]

And what's on your finger there?

[Trey Hendrickson]

So this is like one of those boutonniere fingers. You know, you got to keep it straight. Actually, this is like Sam's like his brace. Like he, like, designed it. Obviously it's mine, but this was his, you know, baby on paper, so it works like a dream. So it's healing great.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So your fingers are going to be nasty when you're done.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Hopefully not. They're doing well so far.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Trey Hendrickson]

But yeah, he does have straight fingers.

[Pat McAfee]

What happened to yours? What happened to you? This guy, Straight shape.

[Boston Connor]

I wear gloves. That was my problem.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you think that?

[Trey Hendrickson]

I think that's the problem, yeah.

[Boston Connor]

No, I wasn't tough enough.

[Pat McAfee]

So what is it? You just. You put gloves on and you say, yeah, I cannot imagine playing. I couldn't either.

[Trey Hendrickson]

It was definitely one of those things that I slipped off Tyrod Taylor a couple times in preseason. Sweaty gloves, you know, it's just like, I've had enough of these, so.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Trey Hendrickson]

And then since then, it was just kind of like a mentality. And from there we just.

[Pat McAfee]

How are the hands? How are the hands?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Hands feel great.

[Pat McAfee]

Now catching. Can you catch?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh, yeah, I'm pretty good. Good.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm all right.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I played tight end in high school.

[Pat McAfee]

So they need to let you get in there. And Debunt has a question for you, Trey.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. How frustrating is it now? How different is it now now that you're at the top of the league? You're not creeping up on anybody. You are a game record. So on Wednesdays offensive, going in, putting you on the screen, just let the league and sack. So now how. How has your prep changed now going into Sundays?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Well, I think, you know, it's. It's. You want. You don't want to go too far away from the fundamentals and technique. They get you to where you want to. You know, it's the small steps in life that get you. And it's the consistency of, you know, chopping wood every week that makes the tree fall. So, you know, I've been blessed to have an opportunity to rush at a High level. All credit to my Lord and savior, Jesus Christ. You know, I'm very thankful of that. And, you know, obviously, being with great teammates and great schemes, like I said, wish nothing but the best to Lou and all the teammates I played with.

[Pat McAfee]

So when Jesus Christ blessed you with life. Yeah, okay. He said, this guy's gonna have a high motor, good get off explosion. What do you think you work on most, and what do you think is the thing that, like, you do well? Like what. What do you know is, like, the thing that you're great at?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh, well, you know, I've. I've been explosive. You know, that's a. That's a good way of putting it, I think, you know, you can kind of see at a young age that you can do those things and play football that way. But, you know, I. I've been blessed to have a lot of great coaches in my life. You know, Ryan Nielsen, when I was first drafted. Charlie Partridge, who's with the Colts as well, was my head coach at, you know. Yeah, he's good, dude. So, you know, it's not just me, you know, it's the people I've met along the way that have molded me and shaped me into who I am today.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you've done the work, though.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, it's fun to put in work. So you're from Orlando, Florida. Yeah. North of Popka.

[Pat McAfee]

And then you were down here in, obviously, Louisiana.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yep. Four years.

[Pat McAfee]

And you have hello, World party in Cincinnati.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And now the big question is, and I don't like to do this, but we got to. I want to let you know, we asked Fred Warner some tough questions, very tough ones.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like the Mormon one.

[Pat McAfee]

He sat. He sat in the pocket.

[Trey Hendrickson]

That's a tough question.

[Pat McAfee]

He certainly.

[Trey Hendrickson]

It was for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But he got it right. I think. I think I'm gonna act like it. I'm gonna act like it was. Right. Journalism. So when we're chatting about the Bengals, everybody needs paid.

[AJ Hawk]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Everybody needs faith. The same thing with the Niners. Every single year, the Niners deal with a similar situation when you have a lot of great players, especially if you draft them. So they're coming up on their first big paydays. You kind of. Or you kind of make them, and it kind of happens there. You got massive paydays around the corner, especially with where the NFL salaries are going. $275 million projected cap next year, but that could even go even more through the roof. You are at a position that is always going to be very, very important whenever all this shit is happening around you on your team. I don't think we've ever heard you talk about it at all. What is your mentality? Do you say, like, the business will take care of itself. I got to focus. Like, how do you handle it all? And do you guys know the situation that is happening around you, business wise?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Well, credit to my wife. She has to listen to me when I go home, so, you know, she's been such a blessing to kind of bounce ideas off of. But I think there's a time and a place. You know, I think the offseason is a good spot to kind of address these kind of issues that do come up. And during the season, you know, when you're talking about OTAs or camp, you know, you don't want to become a distraction for the team because inevitably, the goal is to win a Super bowl for Cincinnati. You know, what that looks like this season? You know, if it's something that we can agree on in terms, you know, that would be great. Ideally, my wife and I would love to stay in Cincinnati if it's something that helps the Bengals win a Super bowl, if they get picks or anything like that. I want to help win a Super bowl for Cincinnati if I'm. If I'm there or not.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Interesting, because Duke is speaking about it now. Duke Tobin, general manager for the Cincinnati Bengals. He was at the Senior bowl, and he chit. Chatted about it, and I don't even think we really were like, oh, Trey, there is a situation because everything's on the offensive side. So going forward, do you see something you have to experience and live life with right now? This is a part of your life right now, having to deal with what the future looks like.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, I would have preferred to kind of heard it differently than my dad texting me a tweet. You know, that would have been great to kind of figure it out that way, but, you know, obviously, the. The table is being set in that way. But I just. I love to play football. I love the. For the. For my play to do the talking. And at the end of the day, I think the chips will fall where they're going to be. And like I said, whether. Whatever happens, I want to win a Super bowl for Cincinnati.

[Pat McAfee]

Good time to be a sack king. Pay the man. Yeah. Very good timing.

[Trey Hendrickson]

What are we talking about?

[Pat McAfee]

Good time to be a sack king. Yeah. I. Good for you, Trey. No gloves. Don't want to talk about it. I don't want to be a distraction. Everybody else pissed about their money?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Me too. I mean, there's stuff. Not pissed, but I think you're doing all right. Wondering.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I think you're doing all right.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I think you're wonder. No, you. I'm talking about you now. You're doing. Yeah. Well, thank you. We are doing good. The crew is doing good. But we. I could see how you were wondering about, like, well, when am I allowed to. Is there even. I don't know how this. I don't want to distract anything from anybody. And you talked about winning a Super Bowl. It's hard to win a Super bowl, dude.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Well, look, it's. It's a kind of. There's a couple things that you want to, like, you know, you have to separate the business and the personal. You know, like, with my wife and my family, you know, we're looking for, like, long term security guarantees. Those kind of things matter when you're playing a violent sport and when you take the risk. We talked about it last year with the front office and things like that, and I have nothing but respect for them. They've taken care of my family beyond my wildest dreams. You know, I was running down on special teams at, like, L3 in 2019. So to come this way and to be rewarded for the way I played in New Orleans, I'm very humbled and appreciative of the opportunity they gave me. You know, I continue to chop wood, like I said, continue the hard work that the Lord has put on my heart and, you know, let the chips fall where they will.

[Pat McAfee]

The Lord dropping you at L3 is a wild place. You're way too big to be an L3. You are way too big to be an L3. I appreciate you saying that. AJ has a question for you. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

We know you've had a lot of. You've had success playing against this Chiefs team, like, especially individually. We. We know you can rush the passer. What does this Chief's offense do that makes it so tough to beat him?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Well, I think you got a really special head coach, and then you have really talented quarterback, tight end, and a lot of key pieces. You know, then they like to have fun out there. You know, like, they're. John, can you feel like.

[Boston Connor]

Can you tell, like, are in the biggest games? Are they. You can hear them talking. Like, does it look like they're all. It's a collaborative effort.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah. And they look like very, very smooth too, you know, But I mean, again, credit to Lou. You know, we've had their number a couple times. They've had our number. It's been great games, you know, and it's fun to sack, you know, Pat Mahomes.

[Boston Connor]

It's fun to watch your highlights, too.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, I saw it over there in the corner. But he's. He's a tremendous quarterback, you know, and he's been in such big games very often and, you know, credit to him and what he's done for his team.

[Pat McAfee]

What was that celebration there? What was that celebration there? I saw at the end? We gave a kiss up to the Lord. I believe you do. Arms straight out.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, that's a credit to, like, Demario Davis. He had that one. That's the Lord. Been good to me. Yeah. So, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's Jesus on a cross right there.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Everything that I am, I want to be, you know, given to the Lord. It's not for me to take ownership of these things. You know, I've. I've been blessed to have very humble parents and, you know, humble upbringing. My brother's here with me today. Tall, great kid, big sob. So, you know, like, Lord planted tall trees, but just good people, you know, and everything I am and everything I do, I want it. I want to glorify the Lord with it.

[Pat McAfee]

Love everything about it. Connor has a question for you.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, true. I mean, you know, we'll see how everything works out, but it feels like you and T. Higgins are going to look great in New England. But when it comes to the season, how was the Hard Knocks experience? Obviously, you know, you mentioned you don't really do media that much. Ted said it, too. Like, how has. How was that kind of dealing with cameras and microphones all over the place when obviously, you know, that. That hadn't happened in the past.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, I think it was just good to be yourself, you know, it was different for sure. I mean, you got cameras that would rotate every once in a while, and then you're on. You're on camera for the rest of the day. You know, you got guys mic'd up that normally aren't. You know, it was an interesting experience. It also got to see, like, how other teams practice in our division, you know, and that was a cool experience, but would I sign up for it every year? Probably not.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I think everybody that's ever done it says the same exact thing. We enjoyed watching. If it means anything, do you lotion five, six times a day face?

[Trey Hendrickson]

No. No.

[Pat McAfee]

How old are you?

[Trey Hendrickson]

30 years old.

[Boston Connor]

Look great.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[Chris Felica]

Good skin.

[Ty Schmidt]

Could have been 20.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Appreciate the compliments.

[Pat McAfee]

Makes.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Am I blushing?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't think. You can't blush Unbelievable. Tone has a question for you. Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

Speaking of division, what is it about the AFC North? Obviously, you. You're the sack king now. Miles has been the sack king. TJ's been the sack king. The Ravens always have someone. I think Kyle van Noy had 12 or 13 this year. What do you think it is about the AFC north that just breeds pass rushers?

[Trey Hendrickson]

It sounds a little bit like the 2017 draft, but. Yeah, no, it is.

[Pat McAfee]

It is.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Groups 2017.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah. Vanoy might not be, but he's amazing. He was just at the Pro Bowl.

[Gumpy]

Great guy.

[Pat McAfee]

He's seven, I think.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, he's someone like that.

[Gumpy]

Yeah.

[Trey Hendrickson]

But yeah, no, I think it's a. It's a gritty division. I think that's like. It's like old style football, you know? And these old rivalries to be a part of is so sick. I love the AFC North. I love playing for the Cincinnati side of it as well. It's been so fun to get into these fist fights with really talented quarterbacks, really good defenses, and obviously watch Joe spin it.

[Pat McAfee]

Joe's. What's Joe like day to day?

[Trey Hendrickson]

He's great. You know, he definitely keeps to his own, but he works hard. He's an example for other guys on the team. He's also super cool looking. Yeah, yeah, he's.

[Darius Butler]

He's.

[Trey Hendrickson]

He's a cool guy, but, you know, like, the want to and the grit, I think those are the things that go under unnoticed. You know, he doesn't complain when he gets hit. He doesn't really do any of that stuff. And he spends it at like an extremely high level.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, very high level. I mean, he hits a keyhole if he needed to. He. His first couple years, he wanted to take a hit. Remember that Ohio guy? I actually like taking a shot. He said everybody. I'm not saying it was just us, but everybody was like, hey, we need to get over that. We need to start waking up without taking hits. He was taking massive shots. Was it the Eagles?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Head dislodged from body and then he came back. Yeah.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Then he came back in the game. Yeah. Joe's absolutely tough. Nobody really talks about it when he's playing. You guys are much different. Why do you guys start slow?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Well, you know, that's a. That's a question for you. You know, we.

[Pat McAfee]

Tell us because I was talking about Joe. Joe didn't have training camp for multiple years. Right. And initially had training. So we thought that this was going to be the best year. That's how we got There, Trey, that I just want. Little peek inside my mind.

[Trey Hendrickson]

No doubt.

[Pat McAfee]

That is how we got to where we were saying, how. Why do you guys start? So.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Good question. Yeah. Starting slow is not something that I think we all have on the. On the drawing board to do every year here, but it has happened that way. But we do a good job of digging out of a hole. I mean, we find a way to have winning seasons for Zach, and, you know, that's one of the things in football, is facing adversity. I think it's a great teacher in life, you know, so to kind of find out what we're made of early. And often it's worked.

[Pat McAfee]

So that's so dangerous. You do that from the beginning of season. Imagine if they play, like, from the beginning of the season.

[Ty Schmidt]

They'd probably be playing right now. I don't know. I'm just saying they had been here.

[Pat McAfee]

Imagine you guys get into the dance. I don't think anybody wanted to see you.

[Ty Schmidt]

That was a conversation.

[Pat McAfee]

I was like. Everybody was talking about it and then lurking. No Dolphins in the Colts.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I think, like I said, that's the talent of our offense, you know, And I can't say enough about, like, you know, Joe Jamar and T and, you know, specifically T, you know, because there's a lot going on in his situation as well. I mean, for a guy to take that kind of a role where on 31 other teams, he's going to be wide receiver one, and then here he's accepting a role in wide receiver, too. I think that. I think it's a very. I think it's a very. Oh, you know, maybe a similar role. Maybe a similar.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Trey Hendrickson]

LSU guys.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm sorry to get through it.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, LSU guys. Well, you got to give him a shot.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, we'll give him 28. We'll give him 20.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Wide receiver first, and then let's see where the chips fall, because he's a monster.

[Pat McAfee]

He'd be one. And, yeah, I mean, T is an absolute beast.

[Trey Hendrickson]

You gotta give him a shot at wide receiver one for a season. Let's see how it all plays out, if it does or if it doesn't.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, Trey saying, yeah, I'm talking. If he does, let's see what this guy does.

[Chris Felica]

Well, in games where tomorrow's been out.

[Trey Hendrickson]

He'S gone off and everything's gone crazy. So I'm just saying, like, I respect his game. I respect that he's very humble. I think he's a great guy. Same thing with Jamar, you know, for how he handled adversity as well. Tremendous respect for him.

[Pat McAfee]

An interesting perspective that we haven't talked about yet. If T is just cool with being the number two guy, just goes about his business signs, franchise thing. All right, I'll do it. Let's go. Whenever at the wide receiver position.

[Boston Connor]

It's pretty rare.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah. If it ever happens.

[Pat McAfee]

Very rare.

[Trey Hendrickson]

If it doesn't happen and we're all there, that's the ideal. I mean, I love being his teammate. I mean, he's a fantastic guy and works hard. You know, I got that jersey for my. For the room at the end of the. At the end of the career, so.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Trey Hendrickson]

He's a special talent.

[Pat McAfee]

Where. End of career, you'll be back in Florida. How's the fishing? You fish, you golf? What Florida shit do you do?

[Trey Hendrickson]

I'm working on all those things. You know, those are things that we, we. We definitely did growing up. But I don't think I'm at any level to be like an expert fisherman or expert golfer.

[Pat McAfee]

Any hobbies.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Both of those are pretty great. Bowling's fun too.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, hell bowling. Oh, hell. Love bowling.

[Boston Connor]

Got your own ball.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I'm telling. Yeah, I got. That's the only way. If you. Somebody says they love bowling and they don't have their own ball, just walk away.

[Boston Connor]

So what's your average then? Do you have like an average what you shoot?

[Trey Hendrickson]

You know, that's something that we were kind of working on for a groove there. My dad was over 200 a lot. I was right in the 175s.

[Boston Connor]

Okay, you guys are real.

[Pat McAfee]

You grew up in an alley.

[Trey Hendrickson]

We were in and out of them. You know, it was something that my brother and I, my dad started to pick up towards an off season here and there.

[Pat McAfee]

How's the billiards?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Not as good as I should be.

[Pat McAfee]

You smoke cigs in there when you're both.

[Trey Hendrickson]

No, no, no, no. No cigarettes.

[AJ Hawk]

Can you read the oil patterns?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Say what?

[AJ Hawk]

Can you read the oil patterns on.

[Ty Schmidt]

The lanes or no?

[Pat McAfee]

What do you do?

[Trey Hendrickson]

You check the watch, you definitely see if it's. If it's slick or not. Real quick, because if your ball's not spinning, it's. It's a bad lane.

[Pat McAfee]

Which one are we staying on? Are we going the two triangles? Three over three triangles.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah. And give it a good.

[Chris Felica]

Who's the goat?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Once over. Who's that guy that has that two handed. We know who we're talking about.

[Ty Schmidt]

Pete Weber.

[Boston Connor]

Pete Weber.

[Pat McAfee]

What about the two handed water from Don under Rick Kenmore Yeah, I really changed the game.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Now you guys are watching bowling. This is a completely different discussion.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you watch into this. We don't get to talk about bowling much.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Let's go back to fishing. I'm reeling this one in.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Kevin Van Dam. Talk about Kevin. Kvd. O o, o. Yeah. He. He's pulling fish out of any water, brother.

[Trey Hendrickson]

This is tremendous.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. It's a show. Ty has a question for you.

[AJ Hawk]

Going back to the slow starts and you mentioned. Yes, I. I feel like in this Super Bowl, a lot of people all season were talking about. About Nick Sirianni and saying, hey, this guy's a big, dumb dipshit. Okay? He's kind of just lucky that he's the coach of the Eagles. It seems like Zach gets a lot of that as well. And we saw a little bit of how he is, you know, in team meetings on Hard knocks and everything. But what's your relationship like with him? Because when he went to the super bowl, everyone's saying, okay, here's the guy. You know, this is the MC. MC. McVeigh's protege. But then the next couple years, it's like, we got to get this guy the hell out of here. He's ruining Joe Burrow. What's he like in front of the team, and what's your relationship like with him?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, I definitely think it's not the same narrative as any that would be. I think he's tremendous. Like, he's a leader of elite men as well. Makes a lot of big decisions. I've had some good conversations with him. I love him. I think he's great. He calls a great offense, obviously, when you're talking about the guys had the success that they've had. He's put guys in the right position, guys are getting open, and he's smart enough to be in that McVeigh system. I heard some of the calls on Hard Knocks. I didn't listen too much because, you know, we do play against him every day.

[Pat McAfee]

Day.

[Trey Hendrickson]

It's kind of little low blow, but. But, yeah, no, they have. They have a great system. I think he's a great coach. You know, I wouldn't want to be anywhere else or coach by anybody else, you know, and that's obviously the goal for this offseason.

[Pat McAfee]

You go down to that watering hole, he always takes the game ball, too. What's that bar?

[Chris Felica]

I was just there.

[Pat McAfee]

You were just there?

[Trey Hendrickson]

That's a Ted question. Did you walk away already?

[Chris Felica]

Steelers, Bengals game.

[Pat McAfee]

He's.

[Trey Hendrickson]

He's in all those watering holes.

[Pat McAfee]

Love Ted.

[Chris Felica]

It's an Irish name.

[Pat McAfee]

There's an Irish name to it, ladies and gentlemen. Oh, there's Thomas right there. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now as the Marines are celebrating their 250th birthday, I believe we have the two Marines that are going to be doing the flyover. Gentlemen, we appreciate the. Hey, hold up. We got. Turn on your mic. We got you muted. These guys hate the troops. In a minute. Wow. Hey, first of all, thank you, gentlemen, for your service. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you. Appreciate it legitimately. Okay, so you guys are doing the flyovers. What are your name? I'm Justin Pitcock. Yeah, but title. What should I.

[AJ Hawk]

Major Justin pitcock. I'm a V22 Osprey Pilot.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[AJ Hawk]

I'm Lieutenant Colonel Mike Thiesing.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so we got a major in lieutenant colonel here. That's right. Okay, you guys will be doing the flyover on Sunday?

[AJ Hawk]

We absolutely will.

[Pat McAfee]

Wait, okay, what are we flying over there?

[AJ Hawk]

We got four MV22s. And then there it is right there. That's sweet.

[Pat McAfee]

Sexy machine, right?

[AJ Hawk]

That's actually me flying. Yesterday we did a practice run. Run. And so I'm in the. I'm in the right seat, but we got four of those bad boys, and then we're gonna have two F35s.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So the timing, obviously, is the biggest part of this whole thing.

[Gumpy]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

How much practice are we doing? How much we rehearsing? And when do you guys find out you're doing it? So we. We practiced yesterday.

[AJ Hawk]

We're practicing again on Friday. You're invited to that if you'd like to come.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

You want to go flying on Friday?

[Boston Connor]

What can you parachute out of it?

[Pat McAfee]

We don't.

[AJ Hawk]

We don't want to have anybody. We don't carry parachute.

[Pat McAfee]

Parachutes.

[AJ Hawk]

Parachutes are for quitters.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yes.

[AJ Hawk]

But if you want to go. If you want to go, we'll grip it and rip it and do another practice run.

[Pat McAfee]

The grip it and rip it thing is the thing that I fear, you know, because I will yawn it all over that entire place. What is the. What time is that all happening?

[AJ Hawk]

So we're it. We're gonna do the. The flyover around 16 to 1800 or so. So 4:00 to 6:00 for all. You're not military folks.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Yeah, thank you. We're doing the math there. Twelve, I think, is involved. I got to subtract this entire thing. How many years of service from you two gentlemen?

[AJ Hawk]

So I've been in for 19 years.

[Pat McAfee]

18 for me. We appreciate you. Where are you guys from? Where are you from, Major? I'm from Texas, from East Texas right now, Nacogdoches.

[AJ Hawk]

Not far from where Patrick Mahomes was born and raised.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so you always been a pilot? You got in the Marines to be a pilot or. How'd this work?

[AJ Hawk]

911 happened my freshman year, so I.

[Pat McAfee]

Was looking for a way to serve.

[AJ Hawk]

But always been interested in the air, and Marines afforded that opportunity.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so a lot of Marines, air. You know, everybody thinks Air Force obviously in the sky, but the Marines, we. A lot of history, right in the sky. Absolutely.

[AJ Hawk]

Naval aviation goes way back, and the Marine Corps has been part of it from the beginning.

[Pat McAfee]

And how about you, Lieutenant Colonel?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. So I grew up in. In Houston, Texas, originally from Ohio. I'm an Ohio State alum.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, buddy.

[AJ Hawk]

And great win. Oh, I loved it.

[Pat McAfee]

Congrats, Maddie. Congrats on the National.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes.

[AJ Hawk]

So. But, yeah, so I grew up outside of Texas, but then lived all over, and right now I live in Charlotte.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. We're always going to be in the sky. We're going to be pilots.

[AJ Hawk]

Always want to be a pilot from.

[Chris Felica]

From birth.

[AJ Hawk]

Absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. And you, when you're pulling the GS, you're not puking or any of that because you. You.

[AJ Hawk]

It depends on you. That's not my problem.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Okay, so you never.

[AJ Hawk]

I've no. Never thrown.

[Boston Connor]

Did you puke early? You didn't puke early when you first started out?

[AJ Hawk]

No. No, never.

[Pat McAfee]

What all have you flown? What's the crazy, craziest thing that we have that we don't know about? Maybe that we've flown? Yes.

[AJ Hawk]

Or that we've done?

[Pat McAfee]

That you've flown and done? I guess you could do both.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, I can tell you some crazy stuff that we've done. Not on the mic, but on Friday.

[Pat McAfee]

When you come on a Friday, we'll.

[AJ Hawk]

Tell you all types of crazy stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

But I won't be able to hear it. I'll be puking.

[Ty Schmidt]

Ever seen a UFO?

[Pat McAfee]

How about. Yeah? Well, what about UFOs? UFOs? Oh, major.

[Boston Connor]

Sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

What are we talking about? All right, you got me. You got me.

[AJ Hawk]

I cannot confirm nor deny.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. Have you flown anything that you thought to yourself, wow, this is like a ET type vehicle here. There's some technology on this.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, if you look at that Osprey again, I mean, that thing. So that Osprey is. Can take off like a helicopter and fly like an airplane. So those big rotors on the side there, we'll flip them up and so we can take off and land like a helicopter. And then we'll transition them down to that vertical. Let's be honest, some people look at what we look like and they think.

[Pat McAfee]

Whoa, that must be not from this planet. Right. So we get mistaken maybe. Yeah. Cuz we got some like, this is insane. So it takes off from a standstill. How fast can it go?

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, so we're gonna for the flyover gonna be about 250 knots, which is just about 300 miles an hour. We're gonna be humming.

[Boston Connor]

Does it make the flyover different? The fact that it's a dome down here?

[AJ Hawk]

So. No, it's a great question. So that we're gonna have. We've been working NFL Films and all the video Fox and all those guys. And on Friday they're gonna be doing a lot of filming and they'll have stuff on top of the dome. And then during the actual flyover day, there'll be cameras everywhere capturing it. So the folks inside the dome will get to see it.

[Boston Connor]

Nice.

[Pat McAfee]

What's the helicopter jet thing that we have? That's awesome. Normally used for. What would that be used for?

[AJ Hawk]

Laying scunion.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

We're bringing.

[AJ Hawk]

We're bringing marines. We'll drop off marines and deliver hate and discontent all around the world.

[Pat McAfee]

Get to love sometimes you got to go through. Hey. And we appreciate the help out of you. Happy birthday to the marines. Thank you.

[AJ Hawk]

Thank you very much.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell yeah. Thank you guys for serving. And when we scream. Is that massively disrespectful to you guys?

[AJ Hawk]

No, it's not massively exciting.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. It's massively exciting. Keep it going. Actually get pretty jacked up right now. All right. Hey, we appreciate you, Major, Lieutenant Colonel. Thank you so much. And can't wait to see you on Sunday.

[AJ Hawk]

Thanks a lot, guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Good luck.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I qualify for that invite, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yes, you can. So you take my spot. Actually.

[Ty Schmidt]

Need you to go.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we need you to film it too. So we could say, you know, that was part of. Is an honor to get asked and I've been very fortunate to do a lot of work with the military. Very thankful for the military and the people that I've met. Went over to Japan on USO tour, been to a bunch of bases. It is. They're a great group of people. Obviously heroes walking amongst us. And it's always an honor to be, you know. And anytime you get a challenge coin, obviously it's something that is incredibly humbling. I'll say in the Moment. I don't think you're gonna see me on one of those planes. I don't think you're see me on that thing.

[Darius Butler]

Have you been in one before?

[Pat McAfee]

So Blue Angels, they asked me to do it. I watched a couple videos, people doing it, and I'm like, yep, that's who I am. I'm not gonna do that. I'm not gonna puke all over this thing. Incredible honor. I went watch the show. Great job. Yeah, that was amazing. Watch. I can't believe we have that much control of fighter jets. Right? I can't believe they're just flying.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, my God.

[Pat McAfee]

400 miles an hour, just like that. And then just. Yeah, we're all gonna turn left. And that happens in India every single year. And since we're so close to the airport, their practices fly over the Thunderdome, and we're seeing them at like 400ft above the sky and then straight up in the air, and it's like, I'm not built for that. My body's not built for that. Tom Cruise in that. Exactly. Yeah. That's what I am at one G, going supersonic. Yeah. I can't be getting into it, but shout out to them. That's awesome.

[Chris Felica]

Did a documentary on it, was awesome. But I felt disrespectful to ask them, do you think it's possible to fly one of those? Not get rocked up?

[Pat McAfee]

All right. I don't think I would have been disrespectful.

[Ty Schmidt]

No chance.

[Boston Connor]

You think they're rocked up the whole flight every time when we did 30,000 hours in that.

[Chris Felica]

I don't care.

[Ty Schmidt]

All natural Viagra, brother.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't need no blue pill, pal.

[Boston Connor]

Right?

[Pat McAfee]

All right. You don't need it. Congrats to you, Trey, by the way. On. You're going to enjoy that, bro. You're going to have a. You're going to have a good time on that. Let's talk about Joe Tuney, especially with Trey Hendrickson here. He's guard, obviously. The story has been told numerous times on this program and throughout all of sports because it's a big deal. This guy's like a Hall of Fame guard. They've had to cycle through tackles. He bounces out to tackle for the playoffs, has done well. They've won games. Now AQ Shipley, offensive lineman says they're kind of protecting them. They kind of protect them a little bit. All RPOs, not putting them out on their island. That's because Andrew Reed's a good coach and everybody needs to do that. But what he's saying is the guy's body type is not built to be a tackle. That's just a matter of fact. Whenever you're looking at a tackle that you're going to be taking on, what are you studying, what are you thinking about? And who do you hate the most? Who do you. What style attack would you hate the most?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Well, ironically, I think it's. It's all going to kind of come together. So I actually played him at tackle. Orlando went down with a calf. I think it was 20, 21. And we went. We went a full game that way, Me and Thuney. He was great. He played well at tackle. I do think he got a little bit of that, you know, help a little bit there. But he's a heck of a talent. Heck of a talent. But Orlando Brown, now that we got him in Cincinnati, he was. There's just not a lot of ways to attack a guy like that. I mean, he's got long arms, quick feet, incredibly talented. You know, I can talk about my teammates for a while, but when I went up against him, him, you know, we. We would not only go at it physically, but we were drawn, too.

[Pat McAfee]

How about like a Deion Dawkins? Whenever he does that, I'm smarter than you move.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, Deion's a problem, too. Like, he. He knows how to play the game within the game as well. You know, he's got a quick get off off the line. He definitely anticipates things, and his set is very unique as well. He drops, like, a lot of vertical depth. That poses a couple challenges if you're trying to get a guy like Josh Allen as well, because he's very mobile. So you don't want to go inside too quickly because then you're leaving your whole defense pretty exposed.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you looking at? Ball or knee?

[Trey Hendrickson]

I think every good rusher should have, like, a triangle where it's, you know, ball is key, and then the man is obviously anticipating the ball, and then the quarterback who's calling for the ball is going to give you a tell or two. But some of the vets are flashing hands and stuff like that. I didn't jump.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Okay, good.

[Pat McAfee]

That's incredible.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I think. I think a part of me left earballs.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought I had pretty. Adam. Yeah? Could you imagine if you jumped? I would have.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Got him.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh, that's great.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's great.

[Trey Hendrickson]

That's great.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm not. I'm not your puppet, dude. Okay. I'm not jumping offside just because you yelled in my face. But that would be impossible. I don't know how. You don't. Especially with some of these cadences.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I've had a couple. Cam Newton was. Had a great. You know, he'd get after Drew Brees as well in practice. Two minute drills. I gave Dennis Allen a couple gray hairs, you know, so it's. It was a grind.

[AJ Hawk]

You ever play against Romo? Romo's hard count, I think.

[Pat McAfee]

Let me. Let me.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I think that might have been one of the special teams years, but.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay. I was like, you know, just like a.

[Trey Hendrickson]

His was better. Yours was definitely better.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I wasn't riding.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Was Romo.

[Chris Felica]

I mean, just.

[Gumpy]

Just on.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Making me jump off sides. I mean, you got to give a real set. Go ahead, give.

[Boston Connor]

There we go.

[Pat McAfee]

That's Tony Ro.

[AJ Hawk]

That was Tony Romo.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't.

[AJ Hawk]

I don't really have one of my own.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I did my own. He did Tony Romo.

[Trey Hendrickson]

You just said my can, so yours is better than.

[AJ Hawk]

Good to know. Yeah, good to know.

[Trey Hendrickson]

An impersonation of Tony.

[Pat McAfee]

I got some people on field goals.

[Trey Hendrickson]

All right.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody's going to talk about it.

[Darius Butler]

No big deal.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Is that the hand? Is it the.

[Pat McAfee]

No. I think it's because they made rules. You weren't allowed to move your hand towards the line of scrimmage. I wasn't allowed to move my head at all. So it had to be like. It had to be a. It had to be. Had to be that number there because the guy on the edge is up on a razor's edge.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Hair trigger.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. If you.

[Trey Hendrickson]

He's going.

[Pat McAfee]

If you can get a little bit, it's like you can steal. First down. I got a couple of them. It's a big deal now also, I got called for a couple and Vinny had to kick a further kick. So he's about done with that shit. We'll say that. Okay. Still made it. Yeah, yeah. No big deal. AJ has a question for you, Trey. As we wrap up hour two here from Radio Roll.

[Boston Connor]

When you talk about pass rushers, I know a lot of guys have, like, separate pass rush specialists they work with. Do you work with anybody like that? I know there's guys that sometimes will come into a camp or maybe in the off season where you work on a guy like a hand dude, we see all these martial arts people. Do you do anything like that in the off season?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Not. Not really for me. But I'm never one to say that that stuff doesn't work, you know, but for me, I like to do what my coach is teaching me me. You know, I think that's something that a lot of players get lost in. You know, you can learn a lot of things, and if your coach isn't coaching it, I don't think that helps too much for the defense or the scheme. So, you know, I tend to kind of shy away from that. You know, I'm trying to get faster and stronger and mentally sharper every off season. And those are the things I keep stacking bricks and then, you know, we let the chips fall where they will.

[Boston Connor]

Does everything come from, from you're the threat of power, like speed to like, this dude needs to know that I can bull rush him and I can do everything else off of that. I think you're so good with your hands, but your power, like you just take dudes right into the quarterback and then your, your hand work is impressive. Getting off and getting to them.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, I think a lot of people just see that rush, right? Like, they don't see the setup that comes, you know, within chess we're playing, you know, you're kind of, you're kind of setting that up with power rushes and they really, they're feeling power. You know, this is like driving them.

[Pat McAfee]

Back as you feel power.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Trey Hendrickson]

But, yeah, like that's, that's kind of like the game within the game. You know, you get, you get tackles that'll do that too. They'll throw like soft set on the outside and you make, you think in different, different rush as well. So it's all kind of, it goes that way. And obviously playing with the lead helps with Joe Burrow, so, you know, that's, that always makes things easier.

[Pat McAfee]

Is it fair for me to say, like, it looks like this guy's trying on this play but not this other play, or is that a potential setup play on the one where he's not trying? And maybe I'm misjudging. Go ahead. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like, when Patrick Ricard's in the game, do you maybe, you know, kind of take, take it easy, a little business decision.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I think I'm just shocked that he's still a fullback. You know, at some point they got to say he's like a T tackle. You know, he's, he's £320 and every bit of it. And he's a, he's a stud. You know, I, I, I met his family at the Pro Bowl a couple times. He's a good dude. Heck of a, heck of a competitor as well. So nothing but good things to say about it.

[Pat McAfee]

You got a locker there It's Pro Bowl Hunter every year. I'm coming.

[Chris Felica]

You tried the Pro bowl or.

[Pat McAfee]

I was, yeah. What did Pro bowl games like this year?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh, it was fun. You know, I can't believe that guys like, you know, all over the place come together in one. It gets. It's a really special environment, you know, elite players all over the country, I think.

[Pat McAfee]

So I felt like there's more effort this year too.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Felt like there was a little more effort.

[Trey Hendrickson]

And they make it so fun too, you know, like the Pro bowl games, they're interacting, you know, it's all for the kids as well. You know, it's like, it's inspiring kids to flag football and stuff like that and, you know, taking miles off the car before it starts.

[Pat McAfee]

So to debut point, that's. You're a Florida boy, right?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Have a lot of family there, friends watching at Pro Bowl. They filled that stadium up.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you see that?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Trey Hendrickson]

We won a state championship in that. Apopka High School 2012 in that stadium. It's now Camping World. It was like it was renamed, I think, but that was a fun environment.

[Pat McAfee]

I thank you for joining us for this hour. To wrap up our day here on ESPN. As we continue on ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, YouTube and TikTok Live, there's some local chefs. It appears this was not set up. This was not prepared. This was just something that just literally showed up. Shout out to radio Row having this. What do we got here, boss? What do we got here, chef?

[Chris Felica]

We got a 12 hour smoked bone.

[Trey Hendrickson]

In short rib sandwich, little crystal hot.

[Chris Felica]

Sauce vinaigrette on top.

[Ty Schmidt]

Henny gator.

[Pat McAfee]

Appreciate you guys. Where's this from? Where's this from? This is from Sodexo Live. We appreciate the hell out of you guys. Have a great super bowl week. Thank you, chef. Thank you, chef. That's a lot of meat. Dare try Hendrickson. That's a lot of meat. We'll enjoy all of that and the rest of this particular program. Live from Radio Row. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life in this thing together. Never forget it. We'll see you tomorrow on espn. We continue on the Internet. Goodbye. I think we nailed it. We're still live train. Still Live train. Crystal Live tr. Don't say anything easy. Yep.

[Chris Felica]

Still live on the YouTube.

[Ty Schmidt]

Unless you want to say you want to go to New England or you.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe want to come all over Indianapolis, Indiana.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I think I like where I'm at in Cincinnati, but let's.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's see.

[Trey Hendrickson]

There's a lot of things that have to happen, but, you know, all of that's out of my control money for you.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a big piece of beef. That's a sandwich. And I don't know how you eat the sandwich with the bone in it, but the bone, that's gonna be a tough eat, I think. But I do appreciate the fact that they're like, hey, listen, we don't want to take off bone for you because that gets away the flavor. I don't know if I'm beating that, but it looks good. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Some of that beef, you don't need.

[Pat McAfee]

To eat the bread. New Orleans food is like, something they're known for, right? The food down here, the chefs down here.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Everything like that. What's your favorite food? Are you a super, like, super diet?

[Trey Hendrickson]

No, I've been blessed to have a chef. Obviously. She cooks for my wife and I.

[Pat McAfee]

Jesus Christ brought a chef.

[Chris Felica]

Thank you.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yeah, definitely. You're blessing the food for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

But what are we eating?

[Trey Hendrickson]

You know, it changes up week to week. You know, like, I'm a big chicken vegan fajitas guy, though. I think that's a staple in the family. So, you know, that's the. Definitely the cheat.

[Chris Felica]

She's coming out, sizzling on the plate.

[Ty Schmidt]

Any good?

[Trey Hendrickson]

How was that?

[Pat McAfee]

Solid.

[Darius Butler]

Any gator?

[AJ Hawk]

Top notch.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah?

[Ty Schmidt]

You like gator down here?

[Pat McAfee]

You ever eat gator, boy?

[Trey Hendrickson]

I have had gator, and it's all right.

[Pat McAfee]

What do we do? We eat that on a sandwich with a gator. The Gatorade on a ste. Got gator on a stick.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, one of my favorite.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Been a while since I've been in New Orleans. Back now, like, he's home. You ever go hunting in g. You know, occasionally. Yeah. It happens.

[Pat McAfee]

That's. Have you ever gone?

[Trey Hendrickson]

I've been invited for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

So I've gone hogging and frogging. I've never gone gator hunting, though, but I've done, like, a Louisiana thing.

[Trey Hendrickson]

You watch the swamp. You know, the swamp people. It's.

[Chris Felica]

Sure.

[Trey Hendrickson]

It's a gator on, like, a string. Yeah, no, not much of a. I.

[Boston Connor]

Got right in a drip in his.

[Pat McAfee]

Brain guy or swim.

[Trey Hendrickson]

It's like you're tracking them down and stuff. I don't hunt either. I'm just saying.

[Pat McAfee]

What? What? You just. You just said a guy. You don't hunt.

[Trey Hendrickson]

It's like a bang stick, right?

[Pat McAfee]

No. You don't know about those gangsters.

[Boston Connor]

You hit him in the head with a bat.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh, that's right. I forgot. It's like sharks. They lure them in.

[AJ Hawk]

Them gators pop up and they shoot them right in between the eyes.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they got you because they got an arm roll. Exactly.

[Chris Felica]

That's Gatorade, hun.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I'm now educated.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's good gator kid.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm happy we could bring something to you. I love eating that gator. I love eating gator boots.

[Chris Felica]

Gator wallets.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. We appreciate you stopping by, Trey.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Appreciate it.

[Pat McAfee]

We really got better today.

[Trey Hendrickson]

So did I.

[Pat McAfee]

We hope you feel that way.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I did.

[Pat McAfee]

We hope that you. You exit the stage a better you than whenever he came on here.

[Ty Schmidt]

And you did great. And sucked.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Are you selling something?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Approved approval.

[Pat McAfee]

No, you're selling approval.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Let's see the shots. Like, come on. You talked about the.

[Pat McAfee]

You want to shoot?

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, God.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Now, I heard they're like foam, though.

[Boston Connor]

Those beads are trying to kind of mess up. Those beads on the rim are making it a little.

[Ty Schmidt]

I recommend going with the bank here.

[Trey Hendrickson]

So how many shots before? Because, like, Fred was talking about the discretion, too. How many? How many?

[Pat McAfee]

Don't give away the gimmick, brother. Every time is the first time. All right.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Everybody times first.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah. Because.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. Right? Quality. It's a bad.

[Trey Hendrickson]

No, no, it's.

[Boston Connor]

How is it good?

[Trey Hendrickson]

It's well done.

[Pat McAfee]

Hold on, Trey. You're kind of.

[Trey Hendrickson]

I. I said it's well done.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but you're looking at us as if we bought these. Yeah. Okay. We did it. Hold on.

[Darius Butler]

It's good defense.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, Trey Hendrickson, pass rusher for the Cincinnati Bengals, a man who wears no gloves on a football field in 2025, when technology got to a point where they make gloves that don't even feel like gloves anymore. He says, I don't want to hear it. I don't want to be tracked, don't.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Want to be trapped.

[Pat McAfee]

I want these bare mitts to be ripping jerseys in tackling quarterbacks. He's here with no business. Tomorrow, you will be here for business, which is the company of Old Spice. Nice.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, nice.

[Pat McAfee]

Solid, quality company.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Dove men care a little bit. Whole body deal. I wish we had some, right?

[AJ Hawk]

I know.

[Pat McAfee]

So good.

[Ty Schmidt]

I got some in my backpack.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's make sure we have those out here for the future.

[Trey Hendrickson]

No doubt.

[Pat McAfee]

It's.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's an old bottle I've had forever because it lasts so long.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. It never ends.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yep. Old Spice.

[Pat McAfee]

We don't know about their. But we don't know their bottle.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's tomorrow, Trey.

[Pat McAfee]

So we don't know their bottle.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Got it.

[Pat McAfee]

We know our bottle. The Dove Main Care, Whole Body. Do two different smells, one great outcome.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Like the clash of titans.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't smell like anymore. Shout out to Dove Men Care, Whole Body, Dio. And also shout out to Old Spice. Paying our guy, representing our guy, getting behind our guy.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

This guy just wants to provide for his family by tackling quarterbacks. Wants it to be fair. Well, how about winning 50 people? 500 Traeger. Wow. You come down here to New Orleans, sit on a set that was put together is way too nice than what we deserve. Put one basketball that's kind of like analytical, very slick into a basketball hoop right over here, and 50 people will win 500. Be an athlete, Trey. Be an athlete, Trey. For the people.

[Boston Connor]

I thought that was it.

[Pat McAfee]

You gator armed it. You did kind of gator on.

[Gumpy]

It was a little bit of a gator.

[Pat McAfee]

A little bit of a gator.

[Trey Hendrickson]

All right, so how many? Two more. All right, the next one's the first one. Next one's the first one.

[Pat McAfee]

You get the ball in your hand and you just like, I'm coachable. Great to be here. Yeah. You know, like, I'm coachable. And I'm even holding this, so it looks like maybe it was the first shot, you know, because I'm holding the backup ball right here. You have no idea. These people are certainly gonna remember that. You missed one. Pretty short there. 1.1 pretty short. And to be clear, I don't know if you got to a point where it would even get into who. Especially with the jingle bells beads across the top, which. What did our rim do to get those. You know what I'm talking about? Jesus Christ ain't talking about it.

[AQ Shipley]

Oh, gross.

[Pat McAfee]

Trey Hendrickson for the good of first shot 70.

[Boston Connor]

Here we go. First shots, right?

[Pat McAfee]

You don't have to. 75 people, 500. What? All you gotta do is put that basketball with a busted ring finger. Finger into that hoop right over there. And 75 people win $500 because thank God for Trey Hendricks.

[Chris Felica]

Thank God for Trey.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank God for Trey Hendrickson. Too many.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Too many straight shots.

[Pat McAfee]

Banks open, fellas. Thanks.

[Darius Butler]

Open.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. All right. 75 people. 500. All you do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody in the reply and put the easiest way to pay you. What a start. Welcome to super bowl week down here at the convention center. This episode is brought to you by Meundies. Underwear drawers are like the Wild West. You never know what you're gonna pull out or what shape it's in. So upgrade your collection with the buttery, soft comfort of Meundies. Meundies signature fabric is as soft as a warm hug from your favorite sweater. Plus, it's breathable and oh, so comfy, making it ideal for all day wear. Get 20% off your first order, plus free shipping at Meundies.com Spotify with COD. That's Meundies.com Spotify code Spotify Football is the greatest. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We are live down here in New Orleans and Wednesday's the day where everybody really starts filing in. You know, in years past, we maybe came down on like a Monday night and did Tuesday here at Radio Row, and it was an echo within the convention center as they were setting things up and there was beeping because there was buildings being pieced together here in Radio Row. But Wednesday, all the way through the weekend, should be absolutely electrifying in here. People from every town in the country, maybe even every single country in the world, are here to chit chat about Super Bowl 59 on Sunday. Now I'm not alone, obviously, I'm with the boys. What a time to celebrate football and life. The talks at tables here at Boston. Connor at Ty Schmidt. Ty, how you feeling?

[AJ Hawk]

Feeling great. That beef was delicious.

[Pat McAfee]

Was good.

[AJ Hawk]

Absolutely delicious. Little fatty, little bit of gristle on there. But hey, that, that, you need that late in the season. You know, you need something to kind of toughen you up, let you know what we're here for, what we're playing.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you talked about the flavor. Seems like there was a lot of seasons down there. It's bayou down Cajun flavoring, which I love. Yeah, absolutely. We're going to be eating good the next couple nights. Oh, yeah. You know, like a basketball player down here maybe. Whoa.

[AJ Hawk]

Not anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

No, he's. He's shredded.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's shredded in that beef. Maybe some of that.

[Gumpy]

Gator.

[Pat McAfee]

The Pelicans have traded a player in some assets away from the Pelicans to the Oklahoma City Thunder for nothing in return. So I don't know what that means for the New Orleans Pelicans, but we do know it's gonna be a great week down here. One half of the hammer done Cowboys. AP Tony's here. Nine year NFL vet. You look super cool, especially with the Duke in your head. Darius J. Ball, A.J. hawk is here. You look great. A.J. what you learned from the guest today.

[Boston Connor]

Trey Hendrickson seems like a really, really good dude and he's obviously an Unbelievable player. But is he going to be back in Cincinnati?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I think he's got one year left on his contract. I think so.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes, he does.

[Pat McAfee]

He's going in the final year of his contract. So this is when the rubber meets the road.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

This is where we try to figure out if we're going to do this or we're not going to do this. Cincinnati Bengals have been in this situation a lot. Cincinnati Bengals, in their eyes, say last year contract means you got two more franchise tags. On the other, we got three years left, or what The Cincinnati Bengals have said in the past and done in the past, but maybe they operate a little bit differently now because they have so many damn megastars and they have a chance to go to the super bowl every single year. Trey Hendrickson, he's the NFL sack king. He led the NFL in sacks. Everybody talks about Miles Garrett, Everybody talks about T.J. white, everybody talks about the Bosas, Max Crosby, you name it. The guy who had the most sacks this year, Trey Hendrickson, guy who wears no gloves. And he's going in the final year of his contract in Cincinnati with a lot of people, people that are eager to get paid. I'm excited to see how it works out. And he was saying that television shows about Gary Hunt is fake. What? No, that's what he said right here.

[Ty Schmidt]

He didn't mean it like that.

[Pat McAfee]

He did. He was saying, this ain't real.

[Ty Schmidt]

He didn't mean it like that.

[Pat McAfee]

These guys are hunters.

[Chris Felica]

What would he know?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Florida boy down here in New Orleans, I think there is a chance he knows a lot, actually.

[Ty Schmidt]

Tell a gator hunter it's fake. You gonna turn into a gator, they gonna haunt you.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right.

[AJ Hawk]

Well said.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep. Thank you.

[Chris Felica]

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's just what I've heard.

[Pat McAfee]

You're talking to locals? Yeah. You were talking to the locals?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I was at the casino last night.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And they're paying you talked all about.

[Ty Schmidt]

The gator and they're.

[Pat McAfee]

They're paying you in those casinos, you're not paying them well last night.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hopefully we can keep it rolling tonight if we have that zany dealer again.

[AJ Hawk]

If you see Melissa at the Caesars, it you hightail the other way.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Why?

[Boston Connor]

What happened?

[Ty Schmidt]

She's the worst.

[Pat McAfee]

Great lady.

[Gumpy]

Tell the bus.

[Chris Felica]

Tell the bus thing, because that's all you need to say.

[Ty Schmidt]

So obviously, you know, blackjack, you're playing against the dealer. It's the team. And you know, it gets to her, and she Goes over, she busts. But she'll go 21 even though she has 26.

[Chris Felica]

I would lose.

[Pat McAfee]

And she's. She's Ms. Mathing. Allegedly. I was not there. Yeah, but this sounds like this is. This is fireable offenses in my eyes. Never experienced it at any blackjack table I've ever been on. Same feel like I played a lot of blackjack in a lot of different places. Never heard of a dealer doing wrong math to you?

[Darius Butler]

Same.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, 14 when you actually have 17 in front of you. Oh, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, that's wild. That's their job. That's. Hey, let's make sure these things get shuffled. Let's make sure we're doing this right and let's make sure we got the math right. That's the biggest part of the entire thing. I like that her gimmick is kind of of like, nah, I don't do it. Actually. You got to do the math. Do you want a card or not? I don't know. What is it? You tell me.

[Ty Schmidt]

Ty had 21, said 12.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Cuz I. Four aces out there. I was like, hey, listen, Melissa, I've had 12 Jack and Cokes, all right? I'm not, you know, just tell me how many I. I have here, T. I hate it.

[Pat McAfee]

She's like, no, I'm just kidding.

[AJ Hawk]

Like, yeah, well, there's a lot of cards out there. Okay, so. Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

She was bullying you a little bit.

[AJ Hawk]

No, no.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Melissa was questioning your math. Not allowed to have your phone out. I'm not allowed to have calculator. So quick math get do it. No.

[AJ Hawk]

And I just said after that, hey, Melissa, enough of this. Just throw me the cards.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay?

[AJ Hawk]

This isn't, you know, we're not at the. At the Marat here in downtown Indianapolis. Isn't your comedy special. Okay, you know, I understand. This is Caesar's. This ain't Caesar's Palace. Shut up and deal the cards and.

[Pat McAfee]

Tell me what number.

[AJ Hawk]

And she was training. She wasn't even, you know, she. We had the. Our guy behind her who was kind of just like, what is she doing?

[Pat McAfee]

Like, are she thought she was right or no, she knew she was wrong when she was telling you these numbers.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Gimmick.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that is awesome.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. No, no, it ain't awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't want to play at her table.

[AJ Hawk]

That's what I mean.

[Pat McAfee]

But I like that. That's the gimmick she's gone with. What if I'm a blackjack dealer who tells him the wrong math? That's awesome. Think about deciding that you're a real heel. Yeah, that's a real heel. She was. She's true heel out there. You even, you lost, you won. Yeah. Maybe you should have been a little nicer than Melissa Gimmick.

[AJ Hawk]

No, no, I didn't lose that much. And actually you know what? Now that I said that, I'm coming back for scalps tonight.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Be on the lookout. Melissa, I want you bub. AQ, how we doing? To be honest, I'm not 100% sure what part of the super bowl we haven't talked about a hundred times. Yeah, exactly.

[Chris Felica]

I have a question for AQ actually.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

How has since Toon he's been kicked out. How has his replacement been pin? It's because he's going up against Jaylen Carter this week.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, I'm nervous like I'm nervous for him. I mean, honestly, again, they, they do such a good job protecting the entire group. It's always running the football. It's always RPOs. It's always play action very few and far between or you ever just drop back pass. And if they feel like that's going to be an issue, you watch they will find a way to chip Jalen Carter if need be. They can rpo send a tight end here and chip on the tackle. So. So like there's so many different ways that they can help guys on that group and they're all interchangeable. It's really good with how come every.

[Pat McAfee]

Coach doesn't do that or play caller do that? Why is Andy Reid the one who says, you know what, we got a little bit of an issue with our offensive line, let's try to protect them a little bit. Maybe we try to win. Why is he able to do that and others aren't seeing me?

[AQ Shipley]

There's so listen, I mean they want to get as many. Most coordinators want to get as many guys out on a route. And the more times you keep people in to chip and help. Now it's two man routes. So your two guys better win, right? That was Bruce Arian's like famous quote. Like every time we'd ask for like a chip, like, hey, we got Aaron Donald this week. We'll get a fucking chip. He'd say, I tried to chip. Who was the. Who was the freak? They called him the freak down in Tennessee. He's like, when I was in Pittsburgh, we chipped him. We kept this guy and we kept this guy in. And Javon Curse still had five sacks. Figure it the fuck out. Win your Matchup. We're getting five guys out.

[Pat McAfee]

He's going to get to the quarterback at some point no matter what we do. Yeah. So we're going to get our guys out. At least have an opportunity to do some shit. Okay, let's talk about a team that you know well. A team that you did know well. You were a player, a coach and a Super bowl champion for them, although you weren't there that long. Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Greenberg Not Get Ups ESPN's Mike Greenberg Tampa Bay Buccaneers Mike Greenberg, salary cap guru, salary cap gymnastics expert, absolute dog in piecing together rosters and handling it all. He is not going to be the Jacksonville Jaguars gm. He has pulled his name from contention for that particular gig. Your thoughts on this. Is this Tampa Bay Liam Cohen stuff still happening here or is this Greenberg not thinking he's getting a gig? What are your thoughts on this?

[AQ Shipley]

It'll be taken that way. But listen, that's the way they've operated all the time. Like they feel like if they have good people. And I know you guys mentioned it last week where you thought maybe like, you know, they were doing that to shun Liam Cohen by blocking coaches from taking those jobs. Listen, the way they're looking at it, at least from the offensive line coach stuff that they did last week is they went from bottom five in the league for the last however many years to all of a sudden being top five in the league. They're not letting those coaches just walk in this case about Tampa. Yeah, Tampa. Like they blocked Carberry, the O line coach, and I think the assistant guy. They wouldn't let any of those guys when it comes to him. This might be a little bit of. This might be a little bit old. Fuck you, Liam.

[Pat McAfee]

Really? I don't know. Who knows?

[Boston Connor]

Whoa.

[Darius Butler]

Maybe only 32 of those jobs.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And Mike Greenberg, I guess his name was up for a couple of the last couple GM jets this year too. So, like what he did in Tampa with Tom and everything that happened afterwards. Mike Evans, deal, relationship, everything that he's done has been in the spotlight. I assume he just thinks maybe he'll get a job in the future where he doesn't care. I wonder how he actually thinks there. And what's Jacksonville gonna look like?

[Darius Butler]

What are they going.

[Pat McAfee]

What is Jacksonville going to look? Good question. Got a yacht out here.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

Really nice yacht.

[Ty Schmidt]

That looks cool.

[Pat McAfee]

We talked about this yacht before because I watched a documentary. He's got a yoga like gym.

[AJ Hawk]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Inside of there.

[Boston Connor]

We need to go see that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's in the Back he goes, down, does yoga, cold tub marina, you.

[Chris Felica]

Can walk right on there.

[Boston Connor]

I don't know about that.

[Pat McAfee]

Three pools. Gotta have more pools than your stadium has on a yacht. Yeah, I understand that. Only two pools in the stadium. Down there in Duval.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is Tony Khan still involved?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, chief football strategist.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I assume he's still cfs then they'll still suck.

[Chris Felica]

They just hired Tony Boseli for a role down there too.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Oh yeah.

[Boston Connor]

He's like vp evp. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Who is that up in Detroit? Who is that up in Detroit?

[Boston Connor]

Chris Spielman.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Big part of that, that type of role.

[Pat McAfee]

So Jacksonville still needs a general manager.

[Gumpy]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

New Orleans needs a head coach. Yes. That's where we're at in the top cycle, correct?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[AQ Shipley]

New Orleans is done though, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Kelly, Moe, Mo.

[AJ Hawk]

Kelly, Mo.

[Pat McAfee]

The interesting thing about that is, is it'll be his first time being a head coach and he's going into a place where a lot of people think they're going to have to suck for a while because of the setup. Contractually, yeah. Is he going to get any grace, you think?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, you would assume so, but I mean we do a lot of assuming. You assume when he comes in, comes in his first opportunity, what are they going to do with Derek Carr, you know, in the foreseeable future? And obviously we know the salary cap hell that they're in. So you would assume that we give him at least a two, a three, four year, you know, grace period. But who knows?

[Chris Felica]

They'll give him grace if it looks a certain way.

[Pat McAfee]

Right?

[Chris Felica]

Like if it look like if they're not getting beat by 20, who's quarterback car? Feels like it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

But there's a report that came out that said, you know, the Saints really, really like Spencer Rattler. So they're kind of already setting him up like he. You better win with this guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, who is the model?

[AJ Hawk]

Jay Ker.

[Chris Felica]

Jake Haer. He could sling it.

[Pat McAfee]

They had a good quarterback.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's a dog.

[AQ Shipley]

Spencer was on my flight down. I got a lot of respect for Spencer. He was on a Southwest flight in a middle seat basically. On the flight.

[Pat McAfee]

Spencer Rattler. Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

So he got on last cuz Southwest. You picked careful.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. Probably last minute.

[AQ Shipley]

Just like just blending in.

[Pat McAfee]

I just need to get downer.

[AQ Shipley]

I just need to get down.

[Ty Schmidt]

A lot of people saying if they do suck, it will be the return of the Manning to New Orleans. And granted, who knows what that is.

[Pat McAfee]

Arch.

[Ty Schmidt]

Arch following in his grandfather.

[Chris Felica]

The march for arch footsteps.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you see the video of Him Windmill Duncan. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Arch freaking nature.

[Pat McAfee]

Two feet too. We didn't get like a big run up. This was like just a casual jump straight up in the air. He was at that basketball game two weeks ago. Whatever. He did like. Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

I saw him do the fake jump shot. And from that.

[Chris Felica]

Well, Red Bull gives you wings.

[Darius Butler]

Definitely not a Hooper.

[Pat McAfee]

What from the fake jump shot?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I didn't like elbow tight. You can tell a lot of what it look like.

[Boston Connor]

What it look like. I missed the fake jump.

[Pat McAfee]

Look.

[Darius Butler]

It look bad. It look as bad as. Right. They running the first base.

[Boston Connor]

That can't be true.

[Ty Schmidt]

That can't be true. That's the worst video ever.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. How do we feel about that over there in Ohio Law interviews. A lot of Bass running. How do we feel about the post?

[Ty Schmidt]

Neil Bryan.

[Boston Connor]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

We lost both coordinators. How do you. What do you.

[Boston Connor]

So I did see reports. Neil Brown, like, he didn't. He wasn't brought in for an interview, was he?

[AJ Hawk]

No stun deal. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

I mean, I'm still pushing for Ryan Hardline. Put him in.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

Brian's brother.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that's Ryan and Brian.

[Boston Connor]

Well, he does have a brother. Not Ryan. Maybe his brother's name is Ryan, actually.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So now we just offended. He and that we definitely have met.

[Boston Connor]

They were talking about we can't offend him.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Brian Hardline dog. He was up for a couple head coaches jobs.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's allegedly the recruiter. Oh, yeah. He's the one that everybody enjoys being.

[Boston Connor]

A wide receiver developer.

[Darius Butler]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Coaches his ass off. That offense going to be good. Who's going to be your quarterback?

[Boston Connor]

It'll be a battle coming through the spring and summer. Julian saying. A lot of people are saying, but there's honestly two, three guys in the mix.

[Pat McAfee]

Who are you going to say?

[AQ Shipley]

They lost their line coach, too. Went to the Cardinals.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Fry, how do you feel about. About plucking Jim Knowles from the Ohio State Buckeyes? Oh, yeah.

[Boston Connor]

You guys got him.

[Chris Felica]

Oh, yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

We're all in.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that was you moving chips in. Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

You see what I did there?

[Pat McAfee]

Middle of the table's here, though. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but it was like a. Metaphorically. You're pushing the chips all in. Is that Craft?

[AQ Shipley]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

We talked to him. You know that.

[Pat McAfee]

That's Pat Crafty.

[AQ Shipley]

He's ready.

[Pat McAfee]

This. This guy's the guy. Dude. This is what you would want.

[Boston Connor]

Drew the guy, too.

[Chris Felica]

We saw him on the sidelines of the Notre Dame, Penn State game. He. His Shoulders are as this wide Big Ten linebacker.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Now he's the running the ship up at Penn State. Shaking hands, getting massive amounts of money. Yeah, Penn State. You guys feel like you're back, huh? Cuz everybody talking about Ohio State going on and they got to win it all. You guys now going all in. You got to win it all.

[AQ Shipley]

That was a huge thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that going to happen.

[AJ Hawk]

Franklin?

[Pat McAfee]

Coach Franklin's got to win. Win it all. But yeah, he's ready to be a guy.

[Chris Felica]

Michigan went all in. Ohio State went all in.

[Pat McAfee]

They won. They won. Here we go.

[AQ Shipley]

It certainly seems like if they don't win at all, there's one guy to blame, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Who's that?

[Ty Schmidt]

Drew Aller.

[AJ Hawk]

Jimbo.

[AQ Shipley]

There's gonna be one guy to blame.

[Pat McAfee]

He's gonna give him.

[AQ Shipley]

We've given it all. We've given them all to it. We've given them the coaches, we've given them the players. We've went all in. You gotta win.

[Pat McAfee]

Now. How do you feel about your say in the Penn State ranks at this point of being in a alumni? You were the guest, you were the celebrity captain.

[Darius Butler]

Did the coin toss.

[AQ Shipley]

Went out for the coin toss. That was cool. Old king of mammals.

[Chris Felica]

Are you in the ring of honor?

[AQ Shipley]

I don't have one.

[Boston Connor]

Got it.

[Chris Felica]

Hall of fame.

[AQ Shipley]

They don't have one.

[AJ Hawk]

What the.

[Ty Schmidt]

The who they got rid of pictures on the wall.

[Pat McAfee]

Nice. Have hair. That's cool.

[AQ Shipley]

I did have hair.

[Pat McAfee]

Looks so cool. I bet.

[AQ Shipley]

So cool.

[Pat McAfee]

God, you look so cool. Yep. All right. As AQ does the Shipley shuffle out of here. Ladies and gentlemen, joining will be a guy who was drafted in the same draft class as me, A guy that taught me how to punt at one point. I think he signed like a seven year deal to be the New Orleans Saints punter. Won a Super bowl down here and oh yeah, he's gonna hit the surprise onside kick coming out of halftime. Ambush. Ambush. Ambush. Out of smu. Ladies and gentlemen, New York jets punter Thomas Morrison.

[AJ Hawk]

I love it. Love the team. Glazing shirt.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Jacked, man. Holy.

[Chris Felica]

So jacked.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's absurd.

[Chris Felica]

How do you get so jacked?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I love that. Thank you, man. Yeah, I appreciate that. I've been working out. Not as much as you, but I've been working out. Boys are pumped to see you. See you.

[Ty Schmidt]

As always.

[Pat McAfee]

Here's the. The head, if you can put it on. Okay, so let's talk about the shirt. Let's talk about team Gleason, obviously. Steve Gleason, former Saint. Former teammate of yours during the glory days, coming out for the Saints. Glory day. I was on the other side. You were? Yeah. When you hit that little thing and then win a Super bowl and then.

[Thomas Morstead]

Remember, my mom was crying in the stands, she thought I missed the kick.

[Pat McAfee]

What a duff. What? He just shanked it so bad. Oh, no. Shake it. 13 yards. This guy. Guy. I've been watching him forever, Mom. English, I believe. Yep. Mom. English soccer.

[Thomas Morstead]

Jamie Cole was sitting with her, so he. He talked her off the ledge and said there's no way he missed it that bad.

[Pat McAfee]

Jamie Cole, kicking, punting, snapping, coach, legend. I have a lot of thanks to him and also a lot of thanks to Thomas Morstead, who's been a punting coach. So I don't know what the percentage of guys that have been. Are in the NFL or been in the NFL over the last 20 years, but basically all of them. This guy guy is absolute legend. And with your season, you are raising money for Team Gleason and ALS research, I believe, so we can.

[Thomas Morstead]

It's mainly for technology to help people that are diagnosed with ALS continue to live with als, be able to. Continue to be human, be able to communicate. And they also send ALS patients and their families on adventures all over the world to inspire people to keep living. They do so much. The last I checked with them, they're getting 800 applications a month for technology for people to just. To be able to talk.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so ALS is a. And we watch Steve Gleason's story, I think, from blocking punt, the whole moment with Falcons, all the way through. Now, ALS brain, good body stops. Is that what happens? Like, you're. Yeah.

[Thomas Morstead]

So basically your muscles just atrophy. They stop working, and they just atrophy. And without medical intervention, most people will end up would suffocate because you can't even continue to breathe. And so you can get kind of like a pacemaker, like for your heart, but for your diaphragm now, and basically be kind of like you're on a respirator, essentially. And that's how Steve continues to be in a chair and continues to move around.

[Pat McAfee]

And there's no cure, right, for als?

[Thomas Morstead]

Not that snow. Not that's known. So.

[Pat McAfee]

And you said they're getting 800 applicants a year? A month. A month. So how many people have a lot of people available? Every time I go to an ALS fundraiser in an Alzheimer's, like, anything, the people talk about the amount of people that are suffering from it. And we don't have a cure for, like, it is just something that happens. There's a lot.

[Thomas Morstead]

And I think what's scary is that the rate of. The rate of it's growing. So more and more people are getting it for some reason. So which is the reason for continued. I mean, other than getting support and people hearing about Team Gleason and what they do, they're getting more and more applicants because more and more people are getting diagnosed. So this has just been a thing for me to do. Steve's really helped me through my own trials that I've been through in the past number of years. And I want to do something to thank him. I'm like, who's encouraging this guy that's doing so much good shit for people all over the world? And. And you just be around him for two hours and you, like, feel kind of what he goes through, but then you go back to living your life. That's his everyday in perpetuity right now. And so I think any way that we can continue helping him be encouraged, feel loved, feel supported. He's doing so much for so many people, and just him being alive is important. And so it's been an honor to do it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Shout out to you. And shout out to Steve for, you know, being a. A familiar face that people can connect with to understand the story of what's happening to everybody else. With that you donated money this year, right? I remember we talked about this. It was punts inside to 20 and you were donating money. Right. And I said I would match. Right. So how much have we raised? How much do we owe? And how magical was the year?

[Thomas Morstead]

Well, the mat. The year was not magical.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought better, but not for the Jets.

[Thomas Morstead]

It was a cool thing. I've a lot of support. Punters and kickers all over the league donated their jerseys after games to kind of keep weekly donations going. And, yeah, so my contribution was 19,000. And if you decide to match that, that'll put us over the $100,000 mark.

[Pat McAfee]

I would definitely match it. And congratulations, punters raising money, helping out with Team Gleason. And, yeah, let's continue to innovate that technology so people can continue to live. And please tell Steve that although we have not met, he has inspired all of us. And he's a badass. And that block was a thing of beauty. You're talking about picture perfect form. I assume everything else is awesome. Let's talk about the season with the Jets. What year are you going into?

[Thomas Morstead]

This will be 17.

[Pat McAfee]

Congrats.

[Thomas Morstead]

Crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

And we've talked about it. You Said go to the wheels, fall off and obviously have a lot of history here in New Orleans. Bounce around to a couple different teams, end up with the Jets. Now have become a mainstay for the Jets. I feel like another year under contract up there with them. Right?

[Gumpy]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

What was this year like? Chaotic, hectic. How do you kind of view it? As a guy who's been there, done that with everything from super bowl to getting released and going somewhere else?

[Thomas Morstead]

I would just say it was a really weird year.

[Pat McAfee]

We.

[Thomas Morstead]

We, you know, expectations are high, results weren't there, and that makes it a really kind of. It's the worst kind of season to have. You know, if you're a team that's rebuilding and you don't expect to really be that good that year, that's a different thing. We were. We had high hopes. We had hopes of being playing this week, this season. It just didn't happen. And I was. You know, I was. No one wants to hear this, but I was proud of how our group stuck together. It was a tough year. And being in that New York media market is something that's. I'd heard about my whole career, but I've seen it now for the past few years, and, you know, guys came to work every day and continued to grind and continued to work, and there wasn't this fracturing that I think maybe gets reported here and there. So, you know, just a tough year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, we followed.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah, we did pretty close.

[Pat McAfee]

We learned a lot in an athletic article that was reported.

[Chris Felica]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

And then there was a lot of other things that were said. You've been in a lot of buildings. You've been around a lot of people. Woody Johnson, this guy is a topic of conversation, especially for the New York jets and everything that happens. What are your thoughts on Woody Johnson, and what do we get wrong about Woody Johnson, potentially from behind the scenes?

[Thomas Morstead]

Well, I don't know what you guys think are right or wrong or what's even being said. I don't follow too much of it. But I will say this. If there's one flaw that he has, he's. He's. He's the biggest jets fan in the world. He loves the team.

[Pat McAfee]

He's obsessed with team.

[Thomas Morstead]

He just loves the team. And. And so, you know, that's all I say about it. I see a little bit of stuff that's said, but honestly, I'm in my own little world. I see things from a different perspective. As a specialist, you know, you kind of. Kind of have the blinders out a little bit but most of the days you just go in there, do your work, and you're really only in the realm of people that you spend time with is the guys in the locker room and the equipment guys, the trainers, the people you interface with every day. So all I know is every time I talk to him, man, all he wants to do is win.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Thomas Morstead]

Loves a team.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He said in a press conference whenever they were introducing a new coach, which AJ Has a question about. But, like, he talked about how I had to look in the mirror and be a better owner, too. If he's obsessed with the jets, that would make a little bit more sense. He's around, I could question. I like that he loves the team, though. That's good news. I like that he seemingly wants him to be great, too, which, you know, not every owner seemingly wants to do. So nonetheless, big turnover. Transition time for the Jets. AJ Has a question for you.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. Thomas, obviously, Aaron Glenn comes in there, great player for the jets, and he seems to, like, embody everything that the New York jets want to be. Have you had any interaction with them and what do you think of the hire?

[Thomas Morstead]

I've texted with him a little bit. Biggest thing I would say that I could speak on is he was our cornerbacks coach in New Orleans for my last four years there, and then he obviously left with Dan Campbell to go to Detroit. And so the thing I remember about him, again, not a ton of one on one time or things like that. He was super professional, just very, very professional guy. And, you know, I've kind of. I'm a huge Dan Campbell fan. So watch. I've kind of watched the Lions Path over the past, you know, four years. And so I've seen a lot of AG on the tv and I know for the past few years Dan's really hyped him up is, you know, look, I hope we never lose him because he's a great. He's a great coach, but at some point, somebody's going to have to give him an opportunity because he's. He's going to be a head coach in this league. So I think just from a personal side, everybody that's in this business is striving to get to some goal and for him to be able to get a head coaching opportunity with the team that drafted him, I mean, that's like storybook.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's really cool.

[Thomas Morstead]

So it's pretty cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we're excited to watch it all unfold. We can't thank you enough for stopping by. Thanks for raising money for a Great cause. And keep going, man. And thanks for everything you did for me, buddy. I appreciate you.

[Thomas Morstead]

My favorite jersey swap of all time is the Pat McAfee number one jersey. It just says, Thomas, you're my favorite punter.

[Chris Felica]

Got that one up in the house.

[Thomas Morstead]

So I appreciate you.

[Pat McAfee]

You are, man. He taught me how to do it. Ladies and gentlemen, Thomas Morris. All right, Thomas. Hey, a lot of good times down here, huh? We're live. We're live. We're live. All right. Yeah, yeah. We're live. We're live. We're live. I was excited. Yeah. Who knows where he's at? He said, are you staying? He was about to make a bunch of recommendations. I assume the NFL is in a great place as AQ Shipley Shuffle takes place as he joins us back here. Hey, thanks for coming back, aq.

[Boston Connor]

I legit. I almost heard, like the stone cold music as I saw him turn to cold.

[Pat McAfee]

It felt like a big punter. Huge, right?

[AQ Shipley]

I didn't know he was that tall.

[Pat McAfee]

Huge. And you should see his workouts. His workouts are asinine.

[Boston Connor]

He had a shaker. He shows up with a shaker, shaking up, drinking some kind of protein in the off season.

[Pat McAfee]

He goes and lives up at altitude in Colorado somewhere, and he, like, runs trails and shit. I mean, he's just like. He is all. Do you see how hairy is?

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

Rocky.

[AJ Hawk]

Four workouts.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I mean, he, like, taught me how to punt. Like, actually taught me form and everything like that. And he did. He went about doing his stuff so much different than me. But, you know, know, the form was kind of all the same. I was at a. I went to a camp in the offseason with Jamie Cole, and we were just going to have like a morning session with some of the NFL guys. And, you know, I may or may not have sure shut it down the night before, as you do in Wisconsin, young lad. You know, don't get to see these people all the time. Like, it's good to see you guys. Let's chit chat. Let's have a good time here in Whitewater, Wisconsin, I believe. Great town, good times, good. Nice little bars. Hard to get out of there at night, though. Not a lot of Ubers and stuff.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

But I had one, you know, Wasn't the only one. Yeah, definitely. Great setup. I mean, it was a fantastic place. So we do that. We go out like 8:39am we're gonna go hit some, you know, and that's a good place to, like, kind of work on some stuff, watch somebody Else do their stuff. I assume this is what quarterbacks do. I assume it's what tackles do. Everything like that. And also, you know, compete a little bit. Let's go ahead and do this. I get there. Thomas Morstead houses like three pre workouts. Workouts. Okay. Starts flipping tires on the sideline. Flipping tires down a thing. How did it hammer? I don't know where the hitting. They think 35 minutes. I watched him put do a workout to warm up. And I was just sitting there the entire time to warm up. To warm. This is to warm up. And then he had music blaring. And then you see him on the jets on Hard Knocks. He sprints the length of the field before he goes out and does a kickoff or a punt or a hold or whatever. It's like he is whenever it comes like his workouts and stuff, super intense. But that's why he's able to blow up 17 years. We got draft the same class. He's having more than double my career and I love him and his Gleason stuff's crazy. ALS is crazy. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Worst it is.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's something you would think like neuralink would be involved with hopefully going forward.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

How about them saying the big issue is your body becomes like. Like chokes you.

[Boston Connor]

Eats itself.

[AJ Hawk]

It's not really a brain thing. I don't think.

[Boston Connor]

Scariest thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Cuz your brain remains.

[AJ Hawk]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

So you're trapped.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yep.

[Boston Connor]

You just don't have the muscle even to speak. Like it's what Lou Garrett's disease. I mean that's what it is. Like that. It's the scariest thing you think of.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And you're watching this glean story. His.

[AJ Hawk]

His life expectancy. Like he has outlived it by far. I went to a Pearl Jam concert in like 2015 at Wrigley Field and they brought Steve Gleon up on stage and he said like, you know, he introduced one of the songs and he was like I feel better today than I. I did like when I was playing football. Like it's just.

[Pat McAfee]

It's wild 10 years from then. What. What's a pro jam song that I would know or. Or debut would know even flow to keep going. That's them Daughter. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you don't know. That's them.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Deba. You know that.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. Pink Floyd.

[Pat McAfee]

What it Hell yeah.

[Chris Felica]

Same region.

[Boston Connor]

You know you too.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I better. I know the bottom of the catalog.

[Boston Connor]

We didn't see the hit so.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I know the bottom of that thing. I got a chance to see it live, 30.60k. What was it last year?

[AJ Hawk]

60K?

[Pat McAfee]

60,000.

[Boston Connor]

Maybe our expectations were too high this time last year.

[Pat McAfee]

60K, no doubt.

[Chris Felica]

This time last year, he was sitting in a. In a full NHL Vegas nights. And we were going that night to. Yeah, see.

[Pat McAfee]

Are you still a member of the Las Vegas Golden Knights?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I just. Honestly, just, you know, wait for the boys to call on you and you show up, so. And I don't know, you know, I think I want to say they're first in the Western Conference right now. You don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

A big deal.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, maybe not. Maybe the Winnipeg JS jets are up there.

[Pat McAfee]

But how are the Panthers? I saw there at the White House.

[Darius Butler]

I would assume we're cooking. I think Gump showing. We got a loss last night. Night. We've been cooking your first.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's go to the back. Let's go to the back of the set here at Radio Row. Hey, Gump, are the Panthers good? Gumps?

[Darius Butler]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they're still good.

[Chris Felica]

Tough loss last night, but they're all right.

[Pat McAfee]

Keep scanning to that whole island there, boy. Island in the back. Great.

[Chris Felica]

Great set of, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I mean, that's Billy coding YouTube back there. Dumpy obviously splunking.

[Darius Butler]

That's the entire toxic laptop he's missing.

[Pat McAfee]

Talks. Not a laptop. No, that's his home rig. Pack that thing. He. I don't go anywhere without it.

[Chris Felica]

Takes it everywhere he goes.

[Pat McAfee]

He got dirty, obviously. Sitting next to talk, getting the job done. And then there's Debone.

[AJ Hawk]

Looks good.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, and that's. Look at him. Yep. Debone's at Super Bowl M playing slime soccer.

[AJ Hawk]

I was going to say miniclip.com and putt.

[Pat McAfee]

Putt.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And that's. Hey, that's my football.

[Boston Connor]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. And then on the other side, Foxy, go back to you guys there. It's a hell of a setup. The people that did this did it. Fantastic job. You got Foxy, Zito and Nick on the far side. Right next to Nick is a curtain there. There is other people less than three inches from Nick's arm right there. Oh, really? Nick's in it like a different show. Great work, boys. You guys did a great job of CFO Phil sitting up there housing coffee, overseeing Zito. Good setup. I think. I love it. Foxy, how do you. Okay, that's good. That's glowing. Oh, yeah, that is a glowing review. Foxy, how's it been? One of the smoothest sets we've had in so long. I Feel like. Wow.

[AJ Hawk]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

Look at this. Wow. Barcode nt.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The whole set.

[Chris Felica]

Like, I. I just look around. I keep not. Did you know that there's. There's a drum on the front of your desk?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Actual drum.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Trophy, too.

[Chris Felica]

That's a drum. I think you play that thing.

[Darius Butler]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

It's heavy.

[AQ Shipley]

Like, be. I thought it was gonna be, like, hollow. It's not hollow.

[Chris Felica]

The lantern above your head, like, just the. The detail of this classic.

[Pat McAfee]

This is Mystic Scenic Studio, I believe is the company. They did the same. This is the same frame, I think, as last year. Good. They just redone. It was wonderfully done. Got a banjo up there. Oh, that's cool.

[Darius Butler]

It's awesome.

[Ty Schmidt]

A trumpet. This is awesome.

[Boston Connor]

New Orleans.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Look at him. Hey, Mary Flagner.

[Boston Connor]

A gator out of football.

[Pat McAfee]

There's a guy here, too. Can we couple guers Troopers. Appreciate you, boys. Hey, they clean?

[Boston Connor]

Yes.

[Ty Schmidt]

Some of the best.

[Pat McAfee]

I wonder if you can't be fat because it's too hot down here.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

To wear that costume.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm sure we can find one or two troopers.

[Chris Felica]

There's always one or two.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but they're, like, probably administrative. Yeah. Desk guys. Yeah, they're administrative. Fair. Not in the.

[Ty Schmidt]

Not on the road.

[Pat McAfee]

I think it's way too hot to just. If you had to be in a. That uniform and mobile to be fat. It's too hot down here. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's like Arizona. It'd be tough to be fat in.

[AQ Shipley]

Arizona, but there's no. There's no humidity in Arizona. You can get away with things in here.

[Boston Connor]

It's 125in the summer, though.

[Pat McAfee]

It doesn't matter.

[AQ Shipley]

You don't sweat.

[Pat McAfee]

Are you doing a chef?

[AQ Shipley]

No, no chef.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't sweat.

[Boston Connor]

You don't sweat in the summer.

[AQ Shipley]

No, because it literally evaporates separates. That's why so many people, like, they'll go hiking and they're not sweating. So they're like, I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. And they're not drinking water.

[Pat McAfee]

Pass out.

[AJ Hawk]

Heat exhaustion.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[Gumpy]

Boom.

[Chris Felica]

Dead.

[Pat McAfee]

Dead. Rest in peace to them.

[Chris Felica]

Rest in peace.

[Pat McAfee]

Fools. But they.

[Chris Felica]

They should still rest in peace.

[Pat McAfee]

Absolute fools. Humpback, right? Camelback.

[Boston Connor]

Camelback. Humpback.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, they got humpbacks. You go on top of camelback and you see.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That's what we're talking about. Age. Favorite thing thus far since we got down here in New Orleans.

[Boston Connor]

Well, I saw a few people cruising the halls that, you know, we get to see at super bowl every year. Good to see Glazer. I haven't made the. The rounds exactly yet, but I'd say right now Trey Henderson coming in here and Fred. Fred Warner, honestly is one of my favorite players in the NFL. Might be my favorite player in the NFL. So it was great to have him on.

[Pat McAfee]

Is he your favorite Mormon?

[Boston Connor]

I mean, I guess I, I haven't put them into categories yet. Like, haven't said favorite more. Brady Pipinga was a guy I played with.

[Pat McAfee]

So he's your favorite four or five.

[Boston Connor]

Year, five years, roommate, home and away games. He really schooled me up on almost.

[Pat McAfee]

So Fred Warner, top five Mormon, definitely.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, definitely top three.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, Kyle Van Neuer.

[Boston Connor]

I don't even know all my friends that are Mormons.

[AQ Shipley]

Andy Reid.

[Pat McAfee]

Andy Reid's your great Mormon?

[Chris Felica]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that your top Mormon?

[Ty Schmidt]

Is he a great Mormon?

[Pat McAfee]

Andy Reid, Is he a Jack Morrison?

[Ty Schmidt]

He's done great things as a Mormon.

[Pat McAfee]

Cool.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, it's a good way to put it.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of Italians coaching here.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The all Italian bowl, you might as well say for the Philadelphia Eagles.

[Chris Felica]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

As you got Big Dom running things, Sirianni doing his thing. Vic Fangio, who was Fangiover not too long ago, you guys kicked him out.

[Darius Butler]

Of Miami, ran him out of town.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that all about? Cuz? He, he top.

[Darius Butler]

You know, it's relationship business. You know, sometimes guys just don't make mesh. Meeting rooms don't mesh personalities.

[Boston Connor]

Players was a scheme, honestly. Why didn't. Was it his. His scheme didn't fit a soft organization.

[Darius Butler]

I know part. I know Jaylen Ramsey was, you know, he, he wanted to follow and you know, be kind of that guy, be around the ball a little bit more. He, he is very scheme specific. Been running a similar scheme for a long, long time. But he landed on his feet in Philly and it's, it's been working wonder so far.

[Pat McAfee]

Gumpy, you think that says more about the Dolphins or Vic Trangio?

[Chris Felica]

I think it's a little of both.

[Pat McAfee]

We like lost six of our starting defensive players at the end of last season as well.

[Chris Felica]

So we, we had nobody going into Kansas City, but nobody remembers that.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, you guys blame Vic Fangio though.

[Chris Felica]

We had Bruce Irving who we signed like 24 hours before the game out there.

[Pat McAfee]

I love Bruce. Let's go ahead and remember West Virginia.

[Chris Felica]

Legend Justin Houston was a great player.

[Pat McAfee]

There was a lot of players that used to be great though, so. So why is Vic Fangio getting blamed? Why does he get run out of the players?

[Chris Felica]

Just didn't like him. Jaylen Ramsey, Javon Holland both didn't like him. I don't know why.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, that goes back to. Is this more about the Dolphins or is this more about Vic Fangio? I'd say a little both.

[Darius Butler]

Anthony Weaver had a good year.

[Pat McAfee]

He did. He was very good.

[Darius Butler]

Some head coach consideration.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah. The Dolphins were lurking that whole time. They were lurking that whole time. What happens with the Dolphins?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, Tyreek Hill put out a groundbreaking tweet, so hopefully listen to him.

[Pat McAfee]

What'd he say, Gumps?

[Trey Hendrickson]

He said, I hope we add better.

[Chris Felica]

Players and win more games.

[Ty Schmidt]

Holy.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you agree?

[Chris Felica]

And I couldn't agree more. I never thought of that. I never thought of winning more games.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Figured obviously.

[Pat McAfee]

That's great. Retweet, Gumps. Maybe you guys be in super bowl next year.

[Chris Felica]

We're only 20 million over the cap.

[Pat McAfee]

Going into next year.

[Trey Hendrickson]

A lot of spots to fill.

[Chris Felica]

We'll be fine.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Super Bowl 60 though. Could be the Dolphins coming in to be back up. Schefter pushing Mario. Dude, that was wild. Like, wow. I love us those like a crazy.

[Chris Felica]

He thought that was like league changing.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I saw somebody posted about fantasy football conversation. I'm like, what? Who is. Are we missing something, fools? Maybe that's where the Dolphins are now, though.

[Boston Connor]

It's two a good. Are we good to go for TUA all season? Oh, yeah, he's healthy.

[Chris Felica]

His hips good. His head's good.

[Boston Connor]

We're not worried about his head anymore, which is good.

[AJ Hawk]

No, he'll miss six games next year, but you know.

[Pat McAfee]

No, he won't. He's going to be healthy next. Next year. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Until he's up. But. But I agree. He's gonna start like gangbuster.

[Pat McAfee]

What about Anthony Richardson? Let me tell you a thought I had the other day on Anthony Richardson. I was sitting there, I was scrolling, I saw something. I said, you know what? This guy's so young. This guy's got such good opportunity and promise ahead. This guy one got the laser thing done like Josh Allen did.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Look out, NFL. Anthony Richardson is the next NFL Envy mvp. That's gonna happen next year.

[Ty Schmidt]

Love it.

[Pat McAfee]

Anthony Richardson's gonna win the mvp. This young guy got it figured out this offseason. I can already tell. I haven't heard anything from his team. Haven't seen anything. But I can just tell in my heart of hearts that he's got it figured out.

[Chris Felica]

I could be wrong, but I think he's younger than Shedeur and Cam Ward.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[Chris Felica]

And Will Howard and Quinn years and all.

[Pat McAfee]

Those guys. Exactly young.

[Ty Schmidt]

Not 10 years to get better. Not seeing anything's almost better. They're not doing the hyper videos.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Ty Schmidt]

Look at, look at me. They're just doing the work.

[Pat McAfee]

Just doing the work. And he's so young. He can still learn. Yeah. I'm all in.

[Chris Felica]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Look out for AR5 next year. Winning the MVP 20, 25, possibly you AR5. Bingo. Look at. I mean it's all kind of written in stars. The NFL is at a place that is so strong that it's going to be hard for anybody to catch up. You know, people talk about the NBA's ratings and they talk about the NHL's ratings. Ratings. They talk about baseball existing. I, I don't hear anybody talk about baseball ratings. Have you ever.

[Boston Connor]

They're so good that you don't.

[Pat McAfee]

I couldn't even guess the number of people that watch games. Like what's he expecting, a hundred thousand?

[Boston Connor]

I was gonna be a big local market.

[AJ Hawk]

Probably the biggest World Series they've had.

[Pat McAfee]

In a long time because Shohei's in there.

[Darius Butler]

Freddie Friedman.

[Pat McAfee]

Dodgers, Yankees Skins is a star game to game though.

[Boston Connor]

What about regular season games?

[AJ Hawk]

It doesn't matter.

[Boston Connor]

I guess there's so many of them.

[Pat McAfee]

Them. Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

Because World Series average 15.8.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a good number.

[AJ Hawk]

Huge. That's a massive number.

[Pat McAfee]

But the season. There's no. I like in my head for the regular season. I couldn't even if. If it's not a prime time game, if it's just happening. What is a number?

[Chris Felica]

Very local market, probably.

[AJ Hawk]

I would say like Dodgers probably have huge numbers. I mean it's goddamn end tables the size of a thimble. I don't know what you want me to do.

[Pat McAfee]

Came out of nowhere. How long have you been waiting to roast that side?

[AJ Hawk]

Since I saw the thing couldn't fit.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, it does look cool.

[AJ Hawk]

It does look cool. I would say like Dodgers probably do huge numbers. Yankees probably do huge numbers.

[Boston Connor]

Pirates?

[Ty Schmidt]

No, definitely not.

[AJ Hawk]

Braves maybe. But like outside of that, Phillies I guess was probably pretty big too. But outside of that, I very. Cubs.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe it goes up.

[Darius Butler]

How do they make so much money?

[Chris Felica]

Ticket sales.

[Pat McAfee]

Selling hats. Well, that's it.

[Darius Butler]

I got on the buckles. Hat right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Selling hats.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Think about the amount of hats and.

[Chris Felica]

80 home games a year.

[Boston Connor]

The cream in the helmet sessions. Ice cream in the helmet.

[Pat McAfee]

They need. Definitely baseballs.

[Chris Felica]

ESPN games were 1.6 million per game on Sunday night. You're saying prime time espn.

[Boston Connor]

That's not true.

[Pat McAfee]

What? Okay, all right.

[Boston Connor]

No, I heard it was 2.6, Gump.

[Chris Felica]

I mean, TGL's doing that number.

[Boston Connor]

You think TGL throw numbers out? If you say average, yeah. If we're taking 15 mil.

[Pat McAfee]

Internet, you.

[Boston Connor]

Okay, Gump, I'll let you finish. If we're gonna take 15 also let me finish. If we take 15 mil for the world Series game, you're putting that into the games that have 22,000 watching.

[Chris Felica]

15 mil was on Fox.

[AJ Hawk]

He said on ESPN.

[Pat McAfee]

You.

[AJ Hawk]

The world Series was on Fox.

[Boston Connor]

Even. Okay, then it holds even lesser value than what he said, I guess.

[Chris Felica]

National TV ratings, both ESPN and Fox.

[Boston Connor]

I'm not even listening.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm not even listening. Can you put it behind me over here?

[Boston Connor]

And I love baseball. The Reds are going to be great this year. They're going to win it all.

[Pat McAfee]

Espn, Sunday Night Baseball finished the season with its most watched season.

[Boston Connor]

That's prime time, Pat.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a prime time game. With average audience of 1.5 million plus 6% increase year over year. Fox's audience was consistent with last year's average. 1.8. Slightly up from last year. 4,000 more. That's big deal.

[Chris Felica]

Pretty good.

[Pat McAfee]

Meanwhile, MLB games on FS1 have increased 9% with an average audience of 370. So that's probably the one. Right?

[Ty Schmidt]

Average.

[Pat McAfee]

That's probably the 375 is probably Sunday night's prime.

[Boston Connor]

That's legit. Like Sunday night. Baseball's fun to look.

[Pat McAfee]

It's good.

[Boston Connor]

Those are good matchups. Those are cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Anyway. Sports still dominate. If you look at the NBA's numbers and compare it against other things that are happening that aren't sports. NBA still doing great. NHL is still doing great. If you were to compare it to like a show. Baseball still doing great. If you're compared to a show. The NFL got 4.7 million views average for the Pro bowl games.

[AJ Hawk]

And it was a disaster.

[Pat McAfee]

And it was a blowout. And it was a lot of things. Drake May was in. No offense. Drake May offense that in there.

[Ty Schmidt]

You do not have to throw that in there.

[Pat McAfee]

He threw a great pick. 6. Also some great touchdowns. He was.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's unfair.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Ty Schmidt]

That's unfair what you're doing right now. But I agree. It's awesome that sports. Let me all the way up.

[Pat McAfee]

Let me reiterate or clarify what I meant by that. When Drake May was an announced to go to the Pro bowl, it prompted people like J.J. watt to say, let's just call it the Participation Bowl. Please, let's not call it the Pro Bowl. So no matter what is out on the field. It can be flag football. It can be a tug of war. It could be a punt. Perfect. Which was the most exhilarating and electrifying part of the entire thing.

[AJ Hawk]

The great football race.

[Pat McAfee]

It could be the football race, obviously, where Micah Parson blows right through the.

[Ty Schmidt]

The big cool spike.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it could be. Well, that's Thursday night. So with that being said, let's strictly Talk about Sunday. 4.7 million viewers is a huge number.

[AJ Hawk]

Massive.

[Pat McAfee]

And this is exactly why people say, you know, let's just get rid of the Pro Bowl. They never will. They're going to continue to try to tweak with this particular thing. But if you're getting almost 5 million on the Sunday, that is not supposed to be anything. That's just the Sunday in between championship weekend and super bowl weekend, let alone whenever they add another game and another bye week and then the Pro bowl games continue to go. The NFL's numbers are only going up and up. That projected salary cap of 275 is only going to get more and more and more with these TV deals. The NFL is king AQ Shipley. And this weekend is basically a celebration of that as they'll topple another number that nobody's ever seen before.

[AQ Shipley]

The ratings are always insane, especially for the Super Bowl. Do you think that number ever stops or it's just going to go forever?

[Pat McAfee]

It has to stop at some point. Point, no.

[Darius Butler]

Because the game is getting more global and we get more women and young ladies into the game.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh my God. I didn't even think about that.

[Darius Butler]

I would assume it. It just keeps going up. We talking about what's going on with flag football on the high school level and the international level Olympics, all that type of. You would assume. And you know, the, the average football for the day one football fans aren't going anywhere.

[Pat McAfee]

I, I completely forgot about the fact that I just assumed America would get stagnant at some point.

[AQ Shipley]

Agree.

[Pat McAfee]

But we are at such an early point point of this girls flag football. And I. There's people that get mad at me for talking about this that was happening on Sunday. I was having a lunch date with my wife. Cheesecake Factory. Fantastic.

[Gumpy]

Delicious.

[Pat McAfee]

No sound on TV though. Just tv. Okay. And I'm watching this flag football, girls high school showcase flag football game. The NFC is dominating the afc. Okay. So normally that'd be an immediate what are we doing here? But literally nothing. Can't change the channel and it's on right in front of our face. So I started watching the shit I was seeing I'm like, hey, they're playing ball out here. Zoom in. And on safeties, reading the formation, making checks, they're doing audibles, they have pitch read through. I'm like, I didn't know. I did not know they were playing ball. Like, they are checking audibles, deep shots now, are they going to overthrow? Yes. Is there shit, yeah. It's high school football, right? It's high school football. Let alone that it's girls or boys. They're not like pros at this point. This is high school. It was like, I was incredibly impressed at the level of this shit at this stage, let alone where it's going to go. You know, I was very lucky. And we got a chance to showcase a teaser yesterday. Like, I was very lucky to be a part of that NFL commercial spot. And Principal P is the dog. He hates those kids. Sure. Just wait. I mean, Principal P ain't got time for these kids. These kids, aren't they? But he loved adding girls. Flag football as a varsity sport. And then as you're kind of learning about what the mission is, it's like, hey, they want this in all 50 sports. And it's like, why not? If you have a football field on the field and they have the setup, they have the rules, they have the champions, they have, they understand it all. It's like football might be just getting started with a very large portion of people just going forward, let alone where we're at now. And it's like, I guess the game can only contain to grow. Yeah, that's a whole nother half of the population that I think can see themselves potentially playing or the future playing. And it's being an Olympic sport. It's like, yeah, yeah, I guess.

[AQ Shipley]

I think the game, the Olympics are huge.

[Pat McAfee]

Huge.

[AQ Shipley]

Because now every. Every guy that global sitting there is like, daughter's playing football now.

[Pat McAfee]

That's all I could think of when I saw she's going to the Olympics. When I saw they were running this direct snap to running back who was also a quarter quarterback, option play with a bite pitch. And then that person would sneak out into the flat and then they're running this other one and the quarterback had to decide whether to run it or throw it. I'm like, there's a lot happening in that one play right there. Like, there's a lot of reading that has to happen. There's a lot of pitching that has to happen. There's a lot of everything. All I could think of was Mackenzie going crazy out there. Just, yeah, Mackenzie. I think she's a lefty. So just like, scooping and like, moving. I'm like, yes, we are going to do that for sure. I think it's great. I think the game's a great spot.

[AQ Shipley]

I do, too. I think, Covid, it was the only year probably in the last 50 years maybe that the salary cap has gone down.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[AQ Shipley]

I mean, that's the only reason. Like, that's the only way we can expect it ever to drop again. So it's just going to go.

[Pat McAfee]

I heard people are going to boycott Super Bowl.

[Darius Butler]

We'll see the numbers.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You think bigger than ever?

[Darius Butler]

I think so.

[Pat McAfee]

That's been the trend for everything, I think.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it might. There might be, like, a little dip if the Chiefs go again, but that's only just because. Because people don't want to wash the Chiefs. But to your point, like, more girls with Taylor Swift and everything are going to still watch, so it might just even itself out.

[Pat McAfee]

Are we going to get to the point where people are. Are just understand that, like, she's good. It's good that she's a fan of the NFL. No, no.

[Ty Schmidt]

People hate her now.

[Boston Connor]

They're locked in right now. Whatever they feel they're locked in.

[Pat McAfee]

Minds don't change.

[Boston Connor]

Just like politics, probably, because whether they.

[Ty Schmidt]

Don'T like her music or whether they don't like the fact that they even show her during the game, like those people who hate that are always going to hate.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but why can't you just, like, see it as good for a leak? Oh, I don't know. Okay. I don't know. All right. I don't think they.

[Boston Connor]

Sky blue.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't think they think that broadly.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, to be honest, I think it has something to do with the ocean in the sun reflection. I haven't really been able to figure that one out.

[Boston Connor]

I can't anything out.

[Pat McAfee]

I haven't been able to. There's people yelling. I love that. A lot of excitement, a lot of juice. Oh, there's some good juice. Guys. Got sunglasses on. Yes. Let's get that thing there. Let me see you. Let me see.

[Chris Felica]

That's Bruce Brown. Look around.

[Boston Connor]

Like Bruce out there directing traffic.

[Darius Butler]

Five minutes.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, okay.

[Pat McAfee]

That's not the right spot. I don't think.

[AJ Hawk]

Is that the Oikos booth?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. No way.

[Chris Felica]

Oikos yogurt?

[Gumpy]

Yeah, think so.

[Pat McAfee]

There's Philly right there. I'll tell you what, East John's got a good shot. Who. Who is that? Who's on there, you think?

[Boston Connor]

Phil Jackson.

[Pat McAfee]

Run the triangle. That's who.

[AQ Shipley]

Less. Less something less.

[Pat McAfee]

Need a Rams.

[AQ Shipley]

Les Bowen.

[Pat McAfee]

Less.

[AQ Shipley]

Bowen, I think is his name.

[AJ Hawk]

He's A Philly reporter 60 years.

[Pat McAfee]

Who's this guy? That's. That's a radio. That's a radio station in Philadelphia.

[Chris Felica]

Got me.

[Pat McAfee]

Hold on. I like this guy. Look at this guy right here. That guy's. Yep.

[Ty Schmidt]

I agree that field the eight.

[Pat McAfee]

I agree field.

[AJ Hawk]

It's better field.

[Pat McAfee]

I love everything about that. Shout out to local reporters. By the way, covering the sport, the passion that is brought every single day to cover one team. Absolutely bananas. Place is filling up pretty good.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yes, Big time.

[Chris Felica]

It's gonna be a mad house the next two days.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ Francis is here. Shout out to aj.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Not nada. It is for filling up.

[Boston Connor]

Holy Dongo here.

[Pat McAfee]

Fondango down at NXT last night. Welcome back. Dongo back.

[Boston Connor]

Don't do it now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're right. Right in time for Mania. I didn't even think about that.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, look out, guys.

[Darius Butler]

That is real cyber.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you. Yeah, look at them. What do you think?

[Boston Connor]

The moxy on.

[Darius Butler]

I got to see one more time.

[Ty Schmidt]

Don't do that.

[Boston Connor]

I mean, what do you think it's painted on?

[Ty Schmidt]

Come on.

[Pat McAfee]

But that's his face.

[Darius Butler]

Looks like a goofball.

[Pat McAfee]

He actually doesn't even shave. That's. That's it, guys.

[Darius Butler]

Goofball.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, listen, we definitely don't like him as much as we like Dongo there. F. Dong.

[Darius Butler]

This guy's cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, you should have. You should have seen the run he had. Debuts.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, debuts rivaled the tribal chief. You don't think that's real? Okay, pause. You don't think that's real?

[Darius Butler]

You know, now. Now that I'm looking. Looking at it again.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, yeah, super real, for sure.

[Chris Felica]

I'm starting to think his whole face isn't real.

[Pat McAfee]

What? You think it's a mask?

[Boston Connor]

Is that one of those masks that they say some of these celebrities or politicians wear?

[Pat McAfee]

What AJ you talking about?

[Boston Connor]

The Internet says you're talking about the mask that.

[Pat McAfee]

The old man mask that we have. You're talking about one of those. Yeah, I got one too.

[Ty Schmidt]

Those are clones. They're not masks.

[Pat McAfee]

That guy's not a clone, okay? That's not a mask. That's his face. And he actually doesn't even have to shave. But that's the way his hair grows naturally. That's what I've been told.

[Ty Schmidt]

And it stops right there.

[Pat McAfee]

And then it's. It's got a crisp straight line.

[Darius Butler]

Eyebrows, too.

[AJ Hawk]

Boomers.

[Pat McAfee]

It's war paint. But just natural his hair. And on the other side, Donggo, don't worry about that. Saying he's next.

[Chris Felica]

Steve Austin.

[Boston Connor]

He's got it.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. We're going to get the hell out of here. We'll be back tomorrow. What a time. Good to be here. Who do we have tomorrow?

[AJ Hawk]

We have big good day tomorrow.

[Ty Schmidt]

We have Puka, Jaden Daniels, Hayden Hutchinson.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow, that's a good lineup. Good lineup.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, I'd say.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Q, are you going to be here tomorrow?

[AQ Shipley]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You doing that chef thing? I've tried to ask you a couple times in conversation.

[AQ Shipley]

I've said no.

[Boston Connor]

What do you mean?

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[AQ Shipley]

Said no a couple times.

[Pat McAfee]

Why aren't you doing it?

[Boston Connor]

What chef thing?

[Pat McAfee]

So he does it every year. Might be a little bad blood here.

[AQ Shipley]

Different group now.

[Pat McAfee]

Now you got bad blood.

[AQ Shipley]

Different group. Covid put them out. So a different group bought it. They're running it now. That guy that used to run the one that I used to do does one out, actually, in Phoenix at the. It's called Taste of the Tour now because of the Waste Management open out there.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, that this week?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it is.

[Pat McAfee]

He was there. He slept in bunk beds with somebody because his little. His group.

[Gumpy]

Top bunk.

[Pat McAfee]

Ain't that right, Thunderbirds?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The T Birds run that thing. Hell, yeah. This is your first year as a member of the T Birds run into Waste Management?

[AQ Shipley]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Are you. You guys excited about how things are going?

[Boston Connor]

Wait, why?

[Pat McAfee]

Are you.

[Boston Connor]

Bunk beds?

[AQ Shipley]

No, it's not the bunk beds, but we stay up there late nights, early mornings.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[AJ Hawk]

You said you guys sleep naked except in your red jackets. In the blue jacket.

[Gumpy]

Same thing.

[Darius Butler]

The beats.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So it's not bunk beds. But it is. You guys are twin beds next to each other.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, basically.

[Chris Felica]

Is it true that you sat down.

[AQ Shipley]

It'S like training camp, and you put.

[Chris Felica]

Your balls in the 17th green hole?

[AQ Shipley]

I did not do that.

[Chris Felica]

I thought that was initiation tradition. No fire answer down there.

[Pat McAfee]

Who'd you sleep? Who'd you sleep next to? The guy snored.

[AQ Shipley]

Darcy Horichuk, enforcer in the NHL.

[Pat McAfee]

Horichu. He's got a busted nose for sure. What if he snores so loud?

[AQ Shipley]

Wow. I snore, too.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys got a TV in there?

[AQ Shipley]

Tv? Got a little kitchenette. It's nice.

[Pat McAfee]

Really?

[Ty Schmidt]

What do you do with your lotion? You just kind of say, hey, turn over. Or what? It's kind of one of those things where you do your thing, he does his thing, and nothing leaves this world.

[AQ Shipley]

Trying to get past.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. I don't know how it works.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm asking a question.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly. What happened this guy's problem? I don't know. He sounded like he was talking from experience. With you maybe.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't know what that was. It's just, I mean, look, I know what you like to do.

[Pat McAfee]

Hotel rooms.

[Chris Felica]

This man can't help himself.

[Pat McAfee]

So what you do? You guys are plying the course in the morning and stuff like that to T birds. Why you got to.

[AQ Shipley]

Oh, we run all the venues and stuff. So all. All like the sweet areas. We got to make sure everything's. Everybody's happy.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so you're filling up.

[AQ Shipley]

Everybody's got a different job.

[Pat McAfee]

What was your job?

[AQ Shipley]

I got a couple venues on. On the 18th hole overlooking the winning putt.

[Pat McAfee]

To do what? We got to get drinks in here. Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

So if, like, anybody needs anything, I make sure he's happy. Wheeling and dealing.

[Chris Felica]

Are you on call this week?

[Ty Schmidt]

Like big dumb.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, no.

[AQ Shipley]

When I get back, I get. I get a service industry there.

[Pat McAfee]

You're in the. The service industry thing wouldn't go on without us.

[Boston Connor]

What do you do?

[Pat McAfee]

We love the team.

[Boston Connor]

What do you get from being a T bird?

[Pat McAfee]

You get to do that.

[AQ Shipley]

Volunteer. Get to donate $17 million to the city of Phoenix.

[Boston Connor]

Okay, so do it. I got it.

[Pat McAfee]

You get to be a good person.

[Boston Connor]

That's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

It is fulfillment.

[Ty Schmidt]

D. But you get to skip the line. Hey, I'm a T bird. Okay.

[Boston Connor]

You go house or something.

[Pat McAfee]

You do got a house cup. Cuz I. I know you guys wear that belt.

[AQ Shipley]

Kind of watch anything you want, which is kind of cool too.

[Pat McAfee]

Just go walk up on you guys. Walk up there with like a T bird Stein.

[AQ Shipley]

No, we don't. No, we don't have one of those.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't have.

[Chris Felica]

Can you get hammered while you're working there?

[AQ Shipley]

Can have some drinks.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[AQ Shipley]

Can have a good time.

[Ty Schmidt]

Good time.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, I can't wait for you to be in the hospitality tent. Beat the out of some patron. Cuz you've had one too many.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Cuz those kids, like, slide down. They get hammered.

[AQ Shipley]

Oh, it's a party. It is a party.

[Pat McAfee]

So you got to deal with a bunch of booze bags out there.

[AQ Shipley]

A lot of them.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys love it. That's. That's right. Where the T birds warm.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's why I train.

[Pat McAfee]

We like to. We like to have fun, but also we like to make the world a better place.

[AQ Shipley]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

That's T birds.

[AQ Shipley]

That's right. Anybody's getting out of line. You're out of here.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you guys are kicking people out.

[AQ Shipley]

Kicking people out.

[Boston Connor]

You guys can kick them out.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, I got two hours of post time to, like, literally crowd enforcement, help.

[Pat McAfee]

Helping police out on St. You're staying in post?

[AQ Shipley]

No, I got two post sessions. Yeah, four hours of post.

[Boston Connor]

Take them down. Do you take people down? Like, spear them or point them out?

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, work with Scottdale pd, Phoenix pd.

[Boston Connor]

So they give you a Taser. One of the protections.

[Ty Schmidt]

I wish I had that gun.

[AQ Shipley]

You don't think.

[AJ Hawk]

Give him gun.

[Pat McAfee]

Actually, yeah. I got a clock. Stays at the post.

[Boston Connor]

He just puts it right to their temples.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, I'm not playing. I'm a Thunderbird, you know? So do you guys go through training? They show you videos of what's allowed, who you're allowed to kick out, who you're not allowed to kick out, all at your discretion.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, my.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, my God. The Thunderbirds got a lot of power. A lot of power. You got a bunch of booze bags rolling around a golf course, and all of a sudden you got blue jacket on and. Don't you look at me sideways.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, that's right.

[Ty Schmidt]

I know who AQ's kicking out.

[Boston Connor]

Who's that?

[AQ Shipley]

Who's that Con.

[Ty Schmidt]

Let's just say D. Bus.

[Boston Connor]

Not going to.

[Pat McAfee]

That's him.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's not me.

[Pat McAfee]

That's him.

[Boston Connor]

D. Because he's an athlete.

[Chris Felica]

Problem.

[Boston Connor]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't. Hey, kid, would you like to clarify anything that was just said about you? This is.

[AQ Shipley]

That's just typical conversation.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Con man.

[AQ Shipley]

Typical con man.

[Ty Schmidt]

Pouring gas on the fire. Yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

There wasn't a fire. You actually started one. Yeah, I do believe.

[AQ Shipley]

But that's it.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll tell you what. It's great to be down here in New Orleans, and let's enjoy it all. Football's for everybody. Football's awesome. Football's gonna grow. 126 million. Was the viewers last year's Super Bowl. 4.7 million on a flag football game. I assume it's gonna do big, but what does that mean? Who doing the numbers? AJ doesn't believe any of it. TGL last night.

[Chris Felica]

Huge.

[AJ Hawk]

Great game.

[Ty Schmidt]

So good.

[Pat McAfee]

Great match.

[AQ Shipley]

Another blowout.

[Pat McAfee]

Foxy. You watch every single time. Yeah, I missed this one, though. It was an absolute blowout. Again, there's only been one good match. Last night it was 6 to 2. The Boston Golf Club lost. Sorry, I would have switched my camera, but it's on Gump right now. Okay, well, Gumpy doesn't deserve credit for that day because Gumpy Isn't watching tgl. No. Austin team stinks.

[Chris Felica]

They lose every time.

[Pat McAfee]

Every team loses every time. I think.

[AJ Hawk]

I believe LA is undefeated in the last. Last night was the debut of Tommy.

[Pat McAfee]

Fleetwood, L.A. is Alexis Ohanahan's team guy who founded Reddit.

[AJ Hawk]

It is in Serena. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I believe they are founders of that particular team. We must say, if we're talking tgo, rest in peace to Tiger Wood's mom.

[Boston Connor]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

That moment at last week's TGO where Tiger looks at her and has that moment. Here's the video. Hey, mom, not gonna suck tonight. Okay. Just like a childlike interaction with his mom. So happy that that got captured. Obviously, she passed away. So rest in peace to Mama woods, obviously. Massive piece of one of the greatest athletes in the history of sport. And I'm happy Tiger got to have that moment at TGL legitimately. Now, I assume it's going to be difficult for Tiger to walk into the TGO arena a lot because the last time he. You know. But nonetheless, TGO's still happening and it's only getting better.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

They should have took this week off.

[Chris Felica]

I would assume there's not many more weeks left because it's like once they get into the players.

[Pat McAfee]

What happened in golf? Something happened in golf. Big news.

[Boston Connor]

Rory. Rory won Pebble Beach.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I watched that.

[Chris Felica]

He 20 -21 exemption for. So the. Was it the USGA who runs the US Open said they will give an exemption to a live player in the top three.

[Pat McAfee]

I believe in top three of the live rankings. Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

Flip points.

[Pat McAfee]

Got it. So everybody's thinking this is going to be D Shambro or Rambo.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Chris Felica]

Does anybody know the Rom already has. I. I see now. I would assume so. Has ROM or I don't deshumbo won a US Open? Because you already have an exemption if you've won it in the past.

[Pat McAfee]

And this is not the pga. This is the usga.

[Trey Hendrickson]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Which is different group, remember? Because US Opens golf course is always so terrible. That's right. And it's always the usga.

[Chris Felica]

USGA is basically because of the US Open there. USGA is basically the organization that keeps track of everyone's handicap in the entire world. Basically.

[Darius Butler]

Got mine.

[Chris Felica]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

What's your handicap?

[Darius Butler]

I haven't checked. I think around 12. 1112.

[Chris Felica]

It's pretty good.

[Pat McAfee]

That's birdies.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's not bad.

[Pat McAfee]

What about you? AQ like an 8.

[AQ Shipley]

2 right now.

[Boston Connor]

Jeez.

[Pat McAfee]

Really? I thought you quit.

[AQ Shipley]

I just. I. I take enough swings where whenever I do go out, I'm all Right.

[Chris Felica]

You still get lessons?

[Boston Connor]

Good enough. Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

So I go like once, once a week or once every other week to like get 200 swings in. And then when I do go on.

[Pat McAfee]

Once a week, you're going to a lesson and you have an 8.2. You're a golfer, buddy. That's a. That's full time golfer.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he's T bird now. There's not time for it anymore.

[Chris Felica]

T just pulled up 11.4.

[Boston Connor]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[Boston Connor]

So what do you shoot Nake if you go. What's the range that you can.

[Ty Schmidt]

You can shoot.

[AQ Shipley]

That's the problem. I mean I can 77 to 92.

[Pat McAfee]

Which makes sense cuz what, you're 80, right? That's where you'd be sitting.

[AQ Shipley]

Yep.

[Ty Schmidt]

So perfect range.

[Pat McAfee]

77 to 93 maybe.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Or 83.

[AQ Shipley]

Let's see where I'm at. Yeah, I mean, I mean typically I'm like 82 to 80, 84. It's really good somewhere in that range. It doesn't work completely. It's all based on like how hard the course is too.

[Chris Felica]

The slope.

[AQ Shipley]

Slope. So you can go shooting 82, but it's at Oakmont and they'll put you at like a 3.2.

[Pat McAfee]

You're playing at Oakmont?

[AQ Shipley]

No, but like hard courses. There's hard courses in Arizona, dude.

[Pat McAfee]

Oakmont there is hardcore scenario this year. Arizona is beautiful. The US Opens at Oakmont. Oh, yeah, I love that. That's East Hills of Pittsburgh, baby. That's over by Plum. 85. Wow. Hey Q, I didn't know. That guy's kind of a stick. All right, let's go. Enjoy New Orleans. We'll be back tomorrow. Big time show. Hey, Q, great work today, buddy. You really did good.

[AQ Shipley]

Appreciate you guys. Always fun. Fourth year down here with you guys, it's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

How many years have we been here?

[Ty Schmidt]

All right, 19, 20 off. 1, 2, 3.

[Chris Felica]

So we did Minnesota, we did Topgolf. In Atlanta.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep. Miami.

[Chris Felica]

Miami. The little set.

[AJ Hawk]

Then it was Covid.

[Chris Felica]

Covid, then la, then Vegas, then here, now Phoenix. Oh, Phoenix.

[AJ Hawk]

Vegas.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

It was Pickleball.

[Pat McAfee]

So how many is it?

[Ty Schmidt]

So I think radio row 19 was the first. Right. But including, including the 17.

[Pat McAfee]

18. That's crazy.

[AJ Hawk]

I think it's our fifth.

[Pat McAfee]

I guess they said Mike and Mad Dog. Mad Dog and a Mic.

[AJ Hawk]

Mike and a Mad Dog.

[Pat McAfee]

Mike and a Mad Dog. They created Radio Row. That's what people say.

[AJ Hawk]

He would probably say that. I'm sure. I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know him well enough, but I guess they said that they are the ones that kind of create a radio row. I think that's, like, kind of the notion, I think.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, Mariency.

[Pat McAfee]

Well.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, we'll see about that. What about that?

[Pat McAfee]

Celebrate some ball. Being a friend. Tell a friend something nice, it might change your life. We're in this thing together. We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. See you tomorrow. Goodbye.