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PMS 2.0 1310 - The Madness Begins, LA Rams GM Les Snead, Seth Greenberg, Jeff Passan, & AJ Hawk
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Pat McAfee
Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this big time Tuesday, March 18, 2025. This program starts now. Madness. Oh, it's happening tonight to play in games, to get into the dance. Obviously it's been a hot topic to discuss around the sports world on who made the tournament, who didn't make the tournament. Well, we'll move past that tonight to see who earns their spot in the tournament starting at 6:40 Eastern Time on True TV. Now, this is the time of year where we're finding where the hell channels are. Remember, this is a big deal. We're scrolling, we're scrolling, we're scrolling, we're finding. Oh, this used to be impractical. Jokers. I remember taking trips down here before. Okay, great to be back here then. You also obviously have tnt, tbs, and I think that is cbs.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. And CBS in there. But nonetheless, we're going to be doing a lot of truth TV in over the next few days. So tonight is a good time to find where the. That is.
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Ty Schmidt
That's right.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so let's, let's get on board with that. Let's get excited as St. Francis and Alabama State kick everything off. Alabama State favored by three and a half. They got a good team. I. I've been watching film on this Alabama State team. Oh, yeah. I'll tell you what, the way they moved the ball.
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AJ Hawk
Yep. Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And then they. They'll do one of these.
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AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And then they even got a guy who koozie.
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Boston Connor
No, whoa, whoa, whoa. Easy.
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Pat McAfee
And then you'll see somebody tonight. You'll see somebody tonight. Do one of these boom. They got one of the best. One of these booms. And. And then bang, pow. And then that thing might rattle home. For some reason. They can't find just the net they're working around. But the ball does fall. That's why they're favored by three and a half. And then North Carolina, Bubba Cunningham school, if you do recall, West Virginia governor is not happy.
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AJ Hawk
No, no, he's not.
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Pat McAfee
Just would like to let everybody know he's not happy. But we don't need to talk about that. At this exact moment, North Carolina Tar Heels favored by four and a half, taking on San Diego State. Now this team out of San Diego, they do smack the wood table at Boston, Connor and at Ty Schmidt. That's what you saw when you're watching film in the San Diego State squad.
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Boston Connor
Yeah, look, they're the underdog. And so I said, you know, of course we're Betting on all the underdogs. And this is all I saw. I saw. Holy shit. They go this way, they go this way and they're. And they're never like this. They never stay still and their hands are never like this.
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Pat McAfee
They always chopping, always chopping. It's a lot of this, it's a lot of that.
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Boston Connor
You know, a lot of Tim Robinson dancing in the living room. You know, he's always moving and so is this team. And it's also one of those teams, you know, the 11 seeds, we all know, sometimes they go on a run. We saw UCLA madness.
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Pat McAfee
That would be madness.
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Boston Connor
You remember ucla. They started as a play in game.
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Pat McAfee
Kid with the sweet hair.
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Boston Connor
Bingo. Huge throw. And they made it all the way to the Final Four. And I believe one of those players as well is currently a superstar for the Miami Heat. So look, the 11 seed games, you know, it's just a playing game. It's just a playing game. They're going to lose. Look out for these 11 seeds. Sometimes they go on those runs.
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Pat McAfee
St. Francis versus Alabama State at 640 on TruTV. Once again, that's all that's good for all of us to get in there. UNC versus San Diego State, 910 on TruTV.
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AJ Hawk
Like, tip, we're going to, we're going.
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Pat McAfee
To stay up for that one because we're all mad about UNC getting in in the tournament. Okay. Nobody's more mad than the governor of West Virginia. Nope. Okay. Now granted, is he listening to his constituents and reacting accordingly? I'd say so. Is this the fastest you've ever seen a governor put something together?
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AJ Hawk
Thumbs out.
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Pat McAfee
I think so. Is it also the best podium you've ever seen for a speech from a sitting governor to the ncaa? I think so. Check, check, check. Will it get anything done? Certainly not. But maybe changes what it looks like in the future. Here's a couple tidbits from Governor Morrissey's press conference about the National Corrupt Athletic Association. As it says right on his podium, 111 out of the 111 bracketologists projected WVU to make the tournament. And for good reason. The selection committee for years has talked about the importance of quad win wins. Quad one wins.
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AJ Hawk
Now, for those who don't know much.
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Pat McAfee
About a quad one win, this is when you defeat a team ranked first through 75th. Obviously, it depends upon whether you're home, neutral, site or away, of course. Well, West Virginia had six Quad One wins.
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Boston Connor
That's a lot.
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Pat McAfee
And that was combined with an undefeated record against Quad 3 and Quad 4 opponents. Three wins against top 10 teams, and the 24th toughest schedule in America. West Virginia deserved to be in the NCAA tournament. Right. This was a miscarriage of justice and robbery at the highest level. Hell yeah. Now who was the last team to get into the tournament?
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AJ Hawk
Who was it Turn lights ahead of the Mountaineers.
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Pat McAfee
That would be the University of North Carolina. Oh, interesting. Now let's see how their resume stacks up. Oh, let's look at it go. The tar heels went 1:12 in quad one games and even had a quad three loss. Really? And we keep hearing about the importance.
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AJ Hawk
Of these quad one wins, but UNC.
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Pat McAfee
Couldn'T even get more than one. They also had the 25th toughest schedule.
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AJ Hawk
In America, right behind WVU.
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Pat McAfee
Really? So Governor Morrissey saying, you tell me. He also had a quote in there about North Carolina having representation in the room in Bubba Cunningham and the way this kind of worked out. And he said, I just, I would like to talk about the robbery at the largest or highest level. And I think what is happening here. And I reached out to some people that, you know, have close ties to West Virginia, still still live in West Virginia, still have family in West Virginia. I think they all go, you know, don't love that it's us, but had to be done. And it feels like we're the right team and the right time to do it. Now, is there, you know, politicking happening whenever there's any type of selecting taking place amongst humans? Yes. I mean, that is just a matter of fact. You go back to all the BCS bowl games, how problematic it was. You go to the 14 playoff, you go to just championship. You go to now the 12 team playoff. You go to this tournament every single year, the bubble teams. Anytime there's humans making decisions, there's always going to be an opportunity for relationships or maybe agendas or feelings about something or maybe a narrative that you don't even know is coming from person's experiences that takes place in discussion. That's why like jury of your peers is such an important thing, because you got a lot of people sitting around coming to a decision. It's like everybody has a different angle. Wash the angle. And the fact that, you know, North Carolina's guy is leading the entire entire committee. He's the, he's the, the chair of the selection committee and then his team, and then now there's $104,000 or $70,000, whatever the bonus actually is going into his pocket. It's like you're setting yourself up for somebody to say, what the fuck's going on here? Is the right things the main focus for this particular group? Or are the right things the main focus for this particular group? And I'll be excited to see what comes of it. I obviously can't turn around before tonight. Yeah, North Carolina maybe, though you never know. I mean, Governor Morrissey seemed to be pretty quick, pretty direct. How'd they get that thing created so fast? That was high quality. That wasn't just, like, paper taped on.
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Boston Connor
That was all Buddy over his shoulder.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, right here.
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Evan Fox
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because if you can't. If you can't hear what he's saying, you can certainly see what he's about. You know, if you're just watching this on the TV as you're walking by. National Corrupt Athletic Association. Okay, okay, okay. I like what's going on here. And then somebody probably says, yeah, that's governor of West Virginia. The governor standing in front of this. And who's that other guy? Well, that guy's on his side. Okay. We don't know who that guy is. Got a good suit on. Good ties, too. Both of them in uniform. Looks like they dress the same. They are ready to do battle. And will this make the selection committees more transparent? Will this let us in the room when the conversations are taking place so at least there's a little bit of accountability for whenever people are pitching, whatever it is? Maybe, but I don't know what the right answer is. And I would assume since the beginning of time, when humans have got together to make a decision about things and left people out, there's always been fuckery. I assume there always has been, because that's just how humans operate. But if it can get a little bit better from this, I think more power to old Governor Morrissey. And he is no stranger to suing the ncaa. He did this as the Attorney General a few years back. We had him on the program. It was about the transfer rule. Now with the modern nil, some labor law was being broke. Because if a guy can make a million dollars over here and he can only make 300 grand here, you not letting him go there to do that infringes on his employment and wage opportunity and yada, yada, yada. So he sued the ncaa, actually got a ruling changed. The way the NCAA is currently operating also is now a part of trying to figure out how we get the NCAA to operate in 2025. So this dude knows his way around a courtroom and a lawsuit against the ncaa. And I think that's probably why he's in his bag, you know, because this is his first term as governor for West Virginia, so he needs to put a score, you know, he needs to put a dub somewhere. And for the people of West Virginia, going like, yeah, yeah, we should be the ones. What's the worst thing that's going to happen? The NCAA is going to hold us against us. Well, what are they going to do? Make us the biggest snub in the history of the march around this town that that just happened, and we lost our fucking coach because of it. Probably so. West Virginia, interesting spot, but potentially a pivotal moment here when it comes to selection committees for the NCAA going forward. Football, basketball. I don't know if any of the other tournaments have selection committees. I assume that they're taking place in other places, but maybe there's a little bit of. But nonetheless, the madness has begun, potentially in a courtroom with the governor and the National Corrupt Athletic Association. And tonight, the madness begins on the court. And this is still a wonderful time of year. Even though I'm a West Virginia fan, born for West Virginia, it's like, all right, now, what's my team in the tournament? Let's live for the next couple of weeks alongside of them. And hopefully they go on a run. And hopefully we learn some great stories from this particular March Madness, which is normally the case.
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Boston Connor
Well, and that's why we lost our wagon to St. John's because they will be going on a run all the way to the Final Four. But that was kind of the difference with the NCAA and the College Football Playoff. Like, at least there was a face of that committee and kind of came out and explained why, you know, certain teams got in, certain teams didn't. Because we dealt with that for how long during the football season about, you know, South Carolina and Ole Miss and those teams that were right on the edge.
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Pat McAfee
Bama.
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Boston Connor
Yeah, Bama. That lasted a little while, but at least, because there was a face of it at the end of it. And I forget his name, but he did an interview with Reese on the show immediately after the College Football Playoff was announced. Like, at least Lieutenant General.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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Boston Connor
Yeah, Bingo. But there wasn't. There isn't that for basketball? It's just kind of the only thing we heard about the committee was that one of the guys in it was the ad.
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Pat McAfee
Not the guy in charge of it.
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Boston Connor
The guy in charge of it. Yeah, sorry. It was the AD Of North Carolina.
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Pat McAfee
So there was this other guy, Keith, that was next to him. Rhys Davis, interviewed. I think his name was Keith or Kevin I do apologize. Bubba's name is being the one being said, hey, this guy leads the entire thing. There was somebody else with Bubba doing this interview, but they were the ones that were saying, like, Bubba wasn't in the room when UNC was discussed, like, defending him.
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Boston Connor
Only.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's like, okay, all right. Wasn't in the room that. All right. Hey, let Bubba back in. But we have a couple questions. Do you think you're. Well, he can't, because I can't be a part of that discussion. It's like, that's a weird thing. But in football, there's people that have allegiance. I think Michigan's ad. Yeah.
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AJ Hawk
Ward manual.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. People are like, the ads can't be in there. It's like, okay, well, who we putting in there? Who. Who are we putting in there? Media. Well, we can't put media in there. Right. Because media has biased as well. Can't put coaches. Like, who can we put in the committees? I think that is the next question about, like, I don't know if there's ever going to be a point where there won't be conspiracy fodder. No, I don't know if there ever will be because, like, once again, humans are going to act in their own self interest whenever they are speaking. Not all humans, I understand. I believe Mother Teresa. She did not act in her self interest at all. Sure. Our Dalai Lama, of course.
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Boston Connor
The Buddha.
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Pat McAfee
The Buddha, from what I've heard. The Buddha. No self interest. But you would think in the selection committees, if you want to have that type of power, you probably have some sort of moxie. You probably have some sort of got there somehow. Ego, pride. You probably have some sort of, like, it's going to be tough to eliminate all conspiracy fodder, even though this one's the biggest of all time. So hopefully this will pivot and change, make it a little better.
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AJ Hawk
Well, and that's what like, a lot of people were saying. Like, hey, maybe you get like a retired athletic director. But that's the thing with college athletics is, like, the fan bases are rabid. So, like, it's. It's not like, you know, if you're. You're an NFL fan, you're a fan of a team, you could maybe be like a little, you know, kind of more even keel. Like these. These people are always going to go b. Go to bat for the schools that they went to or that they're a fan of, and you can't.
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Pat McAfee
Which is what makes college sports.
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AJ Hawk
Exactly. It's what makes it great. It's why everyone loves it. And you can't really have just like. Like, these people also need to know basketball because if they're going to trot out all this, like, quad one, quad two, quad three, quad four, that's going to be part of the selection process. You can't just have some slap dick in there who's just like, you know what? North Carolina is always good. We should put them in. Like, the person actually has to watch college basketball, has to know what's going on. But you're right. Like, there's. There's never going to be a time where there's not an instance like this, because this will probably. It's probably going to happen next year. You know, there's going to be.
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Pat McAfee
Every year.
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AJ Hawk
Exactly. There's going to be an AD of a school, and maybe they'll win their conference championship, so it won't be a big deal. But there's also a chance that, you know, the. The ad, Their team's going to be on the bubble and they're going to recuse themselves from the conversation again and then come right back in and be like, so do we get in or what?
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. So what you got to do? Remember, I can get you off this.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
No, no, I wouldn't do that, obviously.
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AJ Hawk
But I could.
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Pat McAfee
But I could. Two votes. You know what I mean? I mean, it's just like, I don't know how they fix it. And once we got baptized in the college football world over the last few years of college game day, it's like, whenever we start trying to figure it out, and it's like, well, I don't know if this won. Like, obviously, fans of teams are thinking their team's always either gonna get screwed. Right? Like, that is what fans are thinking. But whenever we're in the middle of it and we're hearing, like, all. Every angle of everything, it's like, I don't know how they ever get the right answer. Everybody thinks it's just tv. It's like, if the TV people wanted everything. Now, granted, UNC would certainly be one of the schools because of the uniform, but it's like whenever it came to the football, it's like, there's like six different. There's like, you know, like, there's a lot of different potential avenues that could go. Everything can be a story, which is why sports are great.
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Evan Fox
Yes.
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Pat McAfee
And it's also why college ball is fantastic. But I don't know how they fix any of it.
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Darius Butler
We just need to teach AI ball. That's the only way to do it.
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Pat McAfee
See, I've seen people say Las Vegas should be doing all of it for both sports, okay? So if the books pick the favorites and who they think would win, that's not a bad idea. But then you're, you know, you don't think those bookies have a favorite. You don't think the odds makers have favorites as well. If they start realizing that they're the fucking, like, okay, we got a lot of action on this team. Just fucking put them right up there. Like, then there's an angle for the odds makers on why they're doing it. There will never be no, you know, and if it's AI, well, who coded it, you know, because now we'll start seeing Stanford get in, Stanford crash. There's just a never ending supply of things. So that's why you just got to hope you get the right group in there. Like, legitimately, you just got to hope that you get a right group of people in there.
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Boston Connor
There just needs to be a commissioner for every sport in college that has, you know, this many eyes on it. Like, that was kind of the takeaway from the college football was like, they need a commissioner. And how many times we tell Saban, like, hey, you need to be the commissioner of college football because without just having that one supreme leader, like we talk about in, you know, the NFL on. In every organization, there is a supreme leader of that team. And you kind of need that when it comes to college sports. Because at least then you are pointing at one person. Like the Goodell scripted thing, People buy into that. But we know obviously that is just.
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Pat McAfee
The amount of humans that would have to be in on that.
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Boston Connor
Exactly. In the scapegoat. Like, that is such an easy thing to be like, oh, my team got screwed. This is scripted like, at least here. Or not at least rather like in this situation, it's more so like, okay, well, this guy. This is a very valid. Hey, the reason UNC got in is because of this ad. Like, at least for the commissioner, it's more so like, oh, this guy sucks. Hate this guy. But it's not as if he's biased to one team or not. With an ad of a school being the leader of the committee deciding, it's like, okay, this legitimately could be collusion at the highest order, screwing over, you know, teams like West Virginia and Indiana and Ohio State, you know?
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Do they take notes of everything said in there? Like, what's that called in those notes?
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AJ Hawk
Stenographer.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, stenographer is the typer.
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AJ Hawk
But what are they Taking the minutes.
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Pat McAfee
The minutes. There it is. Do they have the minutes of these things? Because that would be like, you know, in his Governor Morrissey going, I'm just asking for discovery of the minutes. I would like to see who was where, when and who said what. Okay. And why. I'd like also know why they did. And then if, you know, we all get a chance to kind of see in the room where it happened, I think that'll be. That'll be good for the future. Nonetheless, let's move along. Madness begins tonight. 6:40 TruTV. Find True TV. It's going to be a wonderful tournament. They're saying this is the most talented college basketball tournament that there's ever been. Now, are they saying that just because the SEC has so many teams in there, or are they saying that potentially because the SEC has gotten very, very good, so more good teams are happening, more good coaching, more good recruiting, more good players on different teams? Just like in football, you know, you think about the Vanderbilt story. Vandy added Diego Pavia, and their entire culture just shifted and changed. So they got in there basketball. That can certainly happen in nil. You bring one great player, maybe you get two great players that you're able to afford. You can completely change everything. So they're saying this tournament is going to be magical. We cannot wait to watch madness. We'd like to send our congratulations to BG Brandon Graham of the Philadelphia Eagles. He has announced his retirement. There was a post earlier today that we saw that was kind of alluding to maybe he was done playing football for a living. And we'd like to say to Brandon Graham on the multiple Super Bowls and obviously the toughness of bouncing back this particular Super Bowl. So he knew, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because him coming back was a wild. That was a wild part of the story.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Like, is Brandon Graham actually gonna. That sounds like an injury. That's not. Yep, yep. Next week we'll get it. They open his window, then bang, he's back for the Super Bowl. I bet you Brandon Graham probably knew that this was potentially going to be his last game. What a great way to go out on top. Congratulations to him for that. And also showcasing a toughness and a grittiness that nobody will ever be able to question. I think Philadelphia now loses Jason Kelsey last year. Then they lose Brandon Graham Cox as well. I. I mean, it's like the next generation of Philadelphia Eagles is in a very good spot, obviously, but it's not easy to pass the torch. Brandon Graham obviously, moving along. Hell of a Career Bob. Hell of a career over there.
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Darius Butler
He also retour his tricep in that super bowl.
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Pat McAfee
So I don't think it was ever healed. Yeah, I don't think it was ever healed. So like I think there was a. I think there was a scan saying that it was a torn tricep coming after that game. No matter. No matter what. Which is dog. You know, that's just like who's due for the Panthers. Linebacker Thomas Thomas Davis had like 13 in his forearm look like a football. I watched Dwight Freeney like have a broken ankle and like literally dudes were showing up in geese body experts to work on his ankle. Like I think it was 20 hours a day they were getting treatment on his ankle. He ends up with a sack in the super bowl just to win a super. Like the things people do just like. Yeah, to. With his. Yeah, he's like, like, yeah, that's awesome. Just an incredible way to go out. Congrats to him. Not a lot of guys win a Super bowl and bats. No. You know, that is a Ray. Obviously Jerome Bettis did in his hometown with Pittsburgh Steelers. Brandon Graham did. I mean there's. I'm sure there's a Peyton. I'm sure there's others that have done it. But that's like the dream scenario I think that everybody's kind of looking for.
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Boston Connor
Yeah, kind of a crazy year for Brandon Graham too, because remember during the year when he kind of broke the news about A.J. brown and Jalen Hurts not being friends.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Accidentally.
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Boston Connor
Yeah, Accidentally. Just mentioned that in a radio interview. And then for them to still kind of hang on and go in the super bowl really is storybook.
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Pat McAfee
Let's talk about the Cincinnati Bengals. Obviously they have invested mightily in the trio on offense that is Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. The graphics and the post are coming in abundance. Oh, hell yeah. Cincinnati Bengals already putting out a post, boys. Obviously this trio right here is going to lead Cincinnati Bengals into the next era and maybe back into the relevancy of the super bowl conversation. Obviously an immense amount of talent can win any game on the offensive side, can beat any defense for sure. What will they do with the rest of the roster to get back to the top? Would love to see these three win a Super Bowl. That post was certainly something. Yeah. Came across everybody's feet. A lot of people were wondering what's going on here, but I think what they were doing is just kind of. They were around something, you know, and they were kind of just all looking in there.
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AJ Hawk
Yep.
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Pat McAfee
You know, but the Bengals understand what they have, and. And I love the move of paying both these wide receivers. Now, they're going to have to hit, but I think Duke Tobin has the ability to be able to do so. Them saying, we want to be able to have our guys and be able to move the ball is. Is a full strategy decision, knowing that you're going to have to hit on everything else. And if they can. If they can revamp on that defensive side, they'll be able to score against anybody. It's like, why not the Bengals? Why not this move? A lot is going to be questioned, obviously, about this much of the salary cap towards the offensive finesse football, you know, as opposed to running the ball, which the Eagles just did, and they win, obviously, a Super bowl alongside doing it. But Cincinnati Bengals, if they have the best offense on the field, on any field, they feel like they can win a game. And it's like, why not? I'm excited to watch them go and do it.
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AJ Hawk
And you wonder how much of this has, like, Joe Burrow was very, very loud publicly saying, like, hey, I want my guys here. Like, I want us to get deals done. And with everything that happened with Carson Palmer, them, kind of like, you know, him basically getting to a point where he was like, hey, I'll retire before I play for this franchise again. Like, so you can keep me here or get rid of me or whatever, but I'm never going to be a Bengal again. You obviously got to do whatever you can to keep Joe Burrow happy and make sure that he's going to be around for as long as he will be.
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Pat McAfee
I'd counter that. What the. What is Joe Burrow supposed to say?
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AJ Hawk
True.
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Pat McAfee
Like, Joe Burrow is doing interviews, so I guess he needs to know that he's going to be asked this. But it's like, Joe Burrow is always going to go to bat for his guys, because Joe Burrow is an Ohio guy. He's a quarterback. Like, when Joe Flacco was asked if he thinks he was elite, it's like, what the hell is Joe Flacco supposed to say? I think I'm average. You know, with his little accent that he has, obviously he's gonna say he's elite. So when he's asked about T. Higgins and Jamar Chase, it's like, I think he's obligated to say good things, but I don't think he's obligated to say, need to have them back, like you were mentioning. He has gone out and said, like, we need both these guys back now. He can obviously message it differently if he just wanted to give, like, the politically correct answer and put over his guy. I assume he was even surprised that they got the deals.
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AJ Hawk
Probably.
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Pat McAfee
I assume Joey Burrow was like, I did not think that this was possible. I don't think many people did think it was possible to get both of the deals done, especially over 100 million for both of them.
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Boston Connor
Yeah, I didn't. Didn't think it was possible. Didn't think it made sense. But it goes back kind of to, like the Tennessee.
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Pat McAfee
Jeez, you don't know?
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Boston Connor
No, no, I don't.
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Pat McAfee
I don't.
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Boston Connor
But it goes back to the Tennessee game. Like, do you remember that scene on the sideline of Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow and they're about to win the game. You know, they're up by multiple scores. But, you know, Joe Burrow is basically talking about, like, this is embarrass. You know, who knows what he was talking about? But I feel like we just kind of saw what the Bengals look like with, you know, without the defense, because that was the big thing when they went to the super bowl was how good Jesse Bates. And I think that was the first year they had Trey Hendrickson. So I think that's more so why it is, you know, head scratching. But, hey, it's going to be electric football. We, Tom Telesco has been on here before talking about the Chargers. Like, hey, the brand of football that we want is high flying, you know, scoring a lot of points. Mike Williams, Staley.
- [23:54]
Pat McAfee
You're talking about the Staley?
- [23:56]
Boston Connor
Yeah, a few years ago when. When he was on here talking about, you know, their brand, and that's the Bengals brand. Like, it's going to be incredibly entertaining watching them every single week.
- [24:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And it's, you know, there's going to be some. There's going to be some backdoor covers coming against the Bengals. But, hey, maybe they go and win. Joey Burrow is a winner. Jamar Chase a winner. Higgins is a winner. Feels like the Bengals have won before. Tough AFC north, but why not go and get it tough?
- [24:23]
Darius Butler
And everyone's comparing them. They're saying, like, oh, they're building themselves like, like the Colts when they had Peyton and Marv and Reggie. But I was like, I. That didn't. I felt like the defenses were a lot better. So I looked it up. The year that you guys went to the super bowl, the defense was ranked eighth. The year before that, it was seventh. The year before that, it was first. There's A second in there. Now, the year they did win the Super bowl was 23rd. So there was like the outlier in there. But those Colts defenses were good. Like, those were not, like, yeah, absolutely.
- [24:48]
Pat McAfee
But the way the Colts defense was built and they have a situation in Cincinnati right now is we're going to get the lead and then we're going to get the quarterback, you know. But currently Trey Hendrickson is potentially getting traded or not, so getting to the quarterback becomes very vital, especially if your offense can move, because they're going to have to keep up. Now, granted, there's going to be teams that are just going to continue to run. I mean, the Philadelphia Eagles, down two scores, they're still handing that ball off. But the old adage is if you get a lead, the other team is going to feel like they're going to have to catch up. So you're going to be throwing the ball a little bit more. You take them out of control, controlling the game and the game clock. So I think Bill Polian's idea was, let's get a good offense, let's get the lead, and then we'll have Dwight, Trini, Robert Mathis get. And then they had Bob Sanders, Roman back there for a while, had smart players everywhere. It was.
- [25:31]
Darius Butler
They also did it in a dome.
- [25:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, a little different Animal also invested heavily in the offensive line. Yeah, had the boys there for a while. What a crew. That was a great group. I don't think they get talked about much, but they had, like, the best offense there for a while, like 10 years straight. They don't really get talked. Jeff Saturday gets chatted about, obviously. Charlie Johnson, Ryan Deem, Lilja, they can hammer some beers, too. That crew, I bet they could really do it. That was a fun group. They were. They were a. Yeah, they were a good group. Hey, lads, you did good. If you're watching Charlie Johnson, left tackle, he was awesome. He was cool, dude, card player. So got along with him. I saw him at a WWE event. Like, I mean, I hadn't seen him in probably, I don't know, eight, nine years maybe. And I'm sitting at the commentary table and there's some massive human being, like, sitting over here, you know, with his family. And it's like third row. And I'm looking over and I see this thing and I'm like, holy shit, that's Charlie Johnson. And I'm like. So I like, try to, like, look at him. He looks over at me one time and I go, charlie, good to see you. And he goes, what up? Man, I'm like, why didn't you just. And he goes, ah, don't want to bother. And I'm like, great to see you. It is great to see you. Family, you know, everybody, it's like such a different. It's crazy to watch everybody kind of grow and get older, you know, and kind of mature, I guess, is what they say. But that offensive line never gets talked about. I do appreciate the fact, though, that maybe that is the model. I think they're also thinking about what the Eagles did. I mean, the Eagles paid two wide, receivers, paid a quarterback. They were able to pay a running back. They had a defense, though, that they just drafted straight out of Georgia. Yep. They said, hey, we're going to go straight to Georgia, give us that defense. We'll see how they play in the NFL and it's going to work out. You just have to hit on your drafts. Now let's talk about Philadelphia. Lane Johnson has restructured his contract. Way go Lane. Oh, Lane. Oh, Lane. Oh. Obviously multiple super bowl champion. People talk about this guy as being one of the goats, if not the goat. Right tackle in the NFL. $40 million guaranteed over the next two years. Good for him. Six time Pro Bowler, an absolute stud. I mean, just an absolute stud out Oklahoma. And whenever. Whenever you think about that offensive line, obviously you think about how great they are. But Lane Johnson is obviously a pillar, an actual pillar of that offensive line. Nick Sirianni knows that. Obviously how he knows that, Jeff knows that Bradley Cooper probably had to sign off on this deal and Lane Johnson restruct his contract to be able to give them a little bit more money over there in Philadelphia. They're always working. Feels like they always get it right.
- [28:05]
Boston Connor
Those Philadelphia Eagles, no doubt about it. And kind of the reputation that they have now, you know, they pay their players. Lane also now becomes that Brandon Graham kind of Kelsey role where he is now the longest tenured Eagle left on the team. So he is kind of that elder statesman. Not that he wasn't before, but now he is number one on that list. And you know, especially in that division with Micah Parsons kind of everything that the Commanders, they're linked to. Trey Hendrickson, if they do get traded, like those tackles, him and my Lada, they're kind of like the. The stalwarts of that offensive line now.
- [28:36]
Pat McAfee
Myada miked up is awesome.
- [28:39]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
- [28:40]
Pat McAfee
Singing on the field.
- [28:41]
Boston Connor
Great moxie, great.
- [28:42]
Pat McAfee
The whole Lane same exact. Yeah, I mean, that is, that is. You know, people want to invest in everything. You have a good offensive line. Your team's going to win games. That's just doesn't matter who's your quarterback, does it? Has to be an NFL quarterback. Can't be a UFL quarterback. Are they still.
- [28:58]
AJ Hawk
They might still be picking.
- [29:00]
Pat McAfee
Are they holding out? Do we know?
- [29:01]
Darius Butler
I haven't seen.
- [29:02]
Pat McAfee
Me neither.
- [29:03]
Boston Connor
I think so.
- [29:04]
Pat McAfee
Hey, listen, UFL boys respect that. You're like, yeah, give me my. Read the room.
- [29:09]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [29:09]
Pat McAfee
You know, and I'm not just saying that as somebody that watches ufl, I'm just saying like the only thing that's been reported the UFO is he's lost like 40 million or something like that.
- [29:19]
AJ Hawk
A lot of money.
- [29:19]
Pat McAfee
It was like the most thing I got. Great news. They stopped their hold up. Yeah.
- [29:23]
Darius Butler
They returned to camp.
- [29:24]
Pat McAfee
Hey, that boys thank you for doing it.
- [29:26]
Darius Butler
They read the roof five day holdout.
- [29:28]
Boston Connor
Where they get some pre Gatorade.
- [29:29]
Darius Butler
Seven million each.
- [29:30]
Boston Connor
Okay.
- [29:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah, I bet they did.
- [29:33]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [29:33]
Pat McAfee
Congrats to UFL guys.
- [29:36]
Boston Connor
Maybe cameo in one of Dwayne's new movies.
- [29:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I mean I don't even want to get into it. There's a lot of that happening in the world right now.
- [29:44]
AJ Hawk
Sure.
- [29:44]
Pat McAfee
You know, like, hey, just read the room a little bit. But nonetheless, Lane Johnson gets paid. Congrats to him. I love everything about Lane. You build up your offensive line, you get. That's why there's a lot of new mock drafts coming out. And Will Campbell's not even in top 10. Right. Will Campbell was solidified first rounder. Basically everybody's saying out of LSU, this guy's the next one. This is the one. And run sub five zero at combine showcases. He's an athlete. His arms measure a little shorter though than they want. Now new mock drafts are out. Will Campbell's not even in top 10. And I just got done doing a whole speech about if you have a good offensive line, you're going to win games. It's interesting what's happening right now.
- [30:22]
Darius Butler
Yeah, he's 13th in Kuipers and 10th in Daniel. Jeremiah's in Kuipers. In general, there was not a an offensive lineman in the top 10. Mambu was the first one at 11. DJ did have Membu going 7 to the Jets. So it feels like, yeah, it's a little bit of a down year for the offensive lineman in this draft. That's probably why you saw so many teams taking risks on linemen we didn't know about in free agency. But as far as far as the draft goes, yeah, it's not the best offensive lineman year that we've had in a while.
- [30:52]
Pat McAfee
Congrats all the offensive linemen during free agency, especially those first couple days. A lot of money going to a lot of guys we never heard of and good for them. I mean, I'm very, very happy for them. But there was a lot of dudes that had like 200 snaps. Hey, you're getting paid as if you're now left tackle one. We're going to trade this guy. Who's that guy? He's swing guy. How's he getting $20 million? It's like. Well, I guess because the draft class potentially down somebody that might know a little bit more about that. A man who has absolutely dominated the draft. Even though at one point people said, he said, fuck these pick, he's a Super bowl champion. He's been able to lead the Los Angeles Rams through a all in phase and then a hey, we got a developed phase. They got a young team right now, but they have a couple old core pillars. They were just one play away potentially from beating the Go on. The super bowl champs Philadelphia Eagles in the playoffs. They get Matthew Stafford back. They trade for Devonte Adams. Poka Nakua still on their team. So the vibes are going to be high. The general manager for whose house? Rams house. Les need. How you doing, man?
- [31:55]
Ty Schmidt
How's it going?
- [31:56]
Pat McAfee
You look super cool. You know what?
- [31:58]
Ty Schmidt
I was listening to y'all. I think if you know an offensive lineman's name, usually that's he's jumped off sides or he's had a bad holding call or some unbelievable defensive end like Miles Garrett is ripped him for a sack on third down. So it's probably good that you don't know their name.
- [32:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think so too. You're right. That's like long snappers don't know them unless they send one over somebody's head. Offensive lineman, you don't know unless they get cooked. I, I respect that adage. You had to build up your offensive line though, Les. So let's talk about you in building your team because obviously we respected the hell out of you going all in. Okay, we're bringing in Matthew Stafford. Obviously we got Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey's coming over here. You went all in trying to win and you did wins a Super bowl in Los Angeles. Whenever there was, you know who's going to be the team of this city, especially when it's hosting a Super bowl. And then everybody talks about kicking a can down the road, kicking a can down the road, inevitably that can is going to come to fruition. It did and you have transitioned now into drafting a younger team, a core team that's going to be able to come up. Do you think that is accurate? That there's two different ways that you have to build a team and in your mind is the draft the most important part of the bounce back after you kick can down the road, as they say, with the salary cap? Definitely.
- [33:10]
Ty Schmidt
I think, I think you could call it. There's many ways we've seen it happen, where you look at all the teams that actually cashed in, right, won the trophy, was able to do the the city parade. There's a lot of ways to do that. But I do think there's an element of cyclicalness to it. There's a cycle where teams are going to go through. It's different from or similar to college football, right, where you, maybe you have this senior class, maybe you're in Michigan when Harbaugh had his senior class, and then all of a sudden this year they go to a younger class. So it probably depends on what phase, what window, what stage you're in as a team.
- [33:48]
Pat McAfee
We'll continue this football talk. But I thought that was a picture of you that like somebody drew on your wall there. Why do I have such a good jawline right there on your, on your wall, over your left shoulder.
- [34:00]
Ty Schmidt
You know, this is. I'm in artist Twyman's office and I believe we have someone, it works in our studios. She's an artist and anytime artists allow someone to do a zoom here, she likes to, let's call it, paint, draw, scribble the picture of whoever they think is the most important person on the zoom call.
- [34:19]
Pat McAfee
Okay. All right.
- [34:20]
Ty Schmidt
In this case it's. You think it's pretty good? Yeah, it's kind of a linebacker look. You know, it's not necessarily a punter look, kind of. You gone to West Virginia? Yeah, played inside backer. You know what I mean?
- [34:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, not tough enough. But what it does have that feel with that jawline. I like artists, you know, shout out to artists, hey, I'm a big fan of artists. You let artists know. I respect him. We were not always on good terms. I think that might have been a one way street then at the super bowl, got a chance to chat with him. Good lad. He's a good man and you let him.
- [34:51]
Ty Schmidt
Isn't it good when you come together, you put your differences on the table, you know what, come up with the parameters, the partnership and you know what, let's work this out.
- [34:59]
Pat McAfee
So. Okay, so what he told me though.
- [35:01]
Ty Schmidt
He Told me it all started with a Johnny Hecker kind of misunderstanding.
- [35:05]
Pat McAfee
No.
- [35:06]
Ty Schmidt
And I was thinking about when Johnny just signed with the Titans. I mean, wow, What a guy's 35. What a career he's had.
- [35:13]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Cross City Carolina as well. We're talking about hitting bombs over there. Obviously for you guys at the Rams, he becomes one of the greatest of all time. And he continues at the Tennessee Titans. He's going to love it down there. You know, if they can get a squad, he's going to love Nashville. And speaking of loving people, let's get back to that. You talked about, you know, coming to parameters, sitting down, putting it to the side right there with me and Artis, which we certainly did at Super Bowl. Matthew Stafford. Okay, let's talk about this situation. He was open to go explore opportunities, I believe is how it was being worded. Is that so you can test out, hey, what is a fair market value? What is the market saying? And then when you inevitably sit down with him and I assume Sean McVeigh is there as well, what is that conversation? To continue on and continue to win another super bowl for the Rams.
- [35:59]
Ty Schmidt
That was, it was a really, it was definitely a unique experience. It was, it was really fruitful, very rejuvenating to all of us. And I think at the end of the day, the partnership with the franchise qb, right, is a nickname, franchise qb. And there comes with parameters and there's trade offs with those parameters. But the end of the day, we're partnering right to, to go on this journey, to chase great, to chase good, to be better than good. And there's some stress and drudgery with that. But each year since the super bowl, once we came back and redid his contract and once the contract and he's still under contract and we come back every year, there's this element of working through some of those parameters, those trade offs and sometimes there's, you know, there's element of friction there when you go through those situations. The neat thing about that month, even though it was, it was kind of, it was a grueling month to work through. Hey, are we going to trade Matthew? Is Matthew going to want to go somewhere else? Is he going to want to come back here? At the end of the day, everyone, Matthew, his family, Sean, our coaching staff, myself, our organization, we all realize, you know what, we really want to take on this journey together. And it was a cool op, a cool to, let's call it, rekindle our relationship, get rejuvenated, to go chase great because there's stress and drudgery that comes with chasing great. Especially when you're a franchise qb.
- [37:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, especially when you're as great as Matthew Stafford is and obviously with how great he has played. And Sean McVay's offense is spectacular. And I think the way he and Sean have worked together has been awesome for the Rams. Obviously, has been very fruitful. Allegedly he was offered like 100 million guaranteed to go somewhere else. So whatever the drudgery and conversation and rekindling that you guys had seems like it was great. Leslie turned down, you know, tens of millions. Everybody hates moving, which I assume you did hammer home a couple times. But I, I think watching him go back made me feel like, okay, that's a real ramilly over there. That's a real fantasy.
- [37:58]
Ty Schmidt
No doubt. And the stress and drudgeries is the journey. Right. The climb. It's a steep hill every year, but again, there can be some friction when you're going through. Okay, what are going to be the parameters of what we're. Let's call it paying the QB and what. And also, hey, we're trying to build a team around him. So let's go chase greatness. That's where some of the friction comes into it. But at the end of the day, as we went through that month, you know what, it worked out and we're all jacked to be partner.
- [38:25]
Pat McAfee
Him walking in, 100 million guaranteed. They're offering me. I'm 37 years old, brother. What do you. That's an interesting give and take. Happy you ended up where you are now. I can't wait to watch him work now. Cooper cup obviously is a member of the Seattle Seahawks. He goes home. You guys had a great run together. You've said nothing but respectful things about him, and he has said the same back. Now you bring in devonte Adams, who is, I think, eager to get back into relevant football. Why was devonte Adams a guy that you wanted in your building and Sean McVay cutting up highlights and voicing over them and sending them to him while he's recruiting him? Is that always a part of your guys's process to get people to become members of the Rams? Genius.
- [39:09]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [39:10]
Pat McAfee
Sean would.
- [39:10]
Evan Fox
He would.
- [39:11]
Ty Schmidt
He would do really well in college football. Maybe not in the NIL era, but back in the old days when you. You really recruited. I do know this when, when you're a player and you really, really prioritize being really good at football and you, you appreciate the, The. Let's call it the, The. The collective and what Comes with winning. Sean's really, really good at connecting with those players because Sean's going to mention and he's going to outline how we're all going to go chase that greatness we were talking about. So that, that's. And Devontae just brings a skill set to the element, I mean, to our table. It's the next iteration of what we want to do. As Sean and his staff have worked through, where we've been, where we're trying to go, what we're trying to accomplish, how you're adjusting to the league, how the league's adjusting to the defending you. The enemy has a say sometimes and Sean, his staff is always trying to stay ahead of that.
- [40:02]
Pat McAfee
Gosh, you're messaging, man. It's like, hey, this is how we operate. It's very clear that you guys have a direction over there in Los Angeles. You and Sean being on the same page is, I think, key to all of it. Ty has a question for you.
- [40:16]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, speaking of that, what is your relationship like with Coach McVay? Obviously, he's very passionate and kind of intense and it seems like someone kind of needs to match his energy in order to get along with him for as long as you guys have. So what is that relationship? You know, whether it's personal or your working relationship, like with him on a day to day basis, I mean, over the.
- [40:36]
Ty Schmidt
It's, it's really, really special. One of my favorite ones on planet Earth as we've gotten in the bunker and, you know, tried to do hard things together. So here's what, here's a great story and I tell Sean all this all the time. We hired him when he was 30 years old and, and that, that story's been written, right? You look, you reverse engineer. It's like a no brainer. Should have hired him when he was 29. I've often kidded with Sean. There's no doubt we've changed your life for the good, but boy, did we probably ruin it as well. You just think about how many, how many 30 year olds that you know. I mean, it certainly wasn't me. It's like when you're 30 to 39, you can kind of be a professional, but you can still goof around and maybe not have to be a head coach of the Los Angeles Rams. So there's a, there's an element that I'm a big brother. We have this neat chemistry that, you know what, we can go out and have a boxing match and then go have a beer afterwards, you know what I mean? But you put on some boxing gloves, and I think y'all did a video of him. You've seen him squatting recently. So we're definitely not going to wrestle, because, boy, could he. I mean, I'm getting jealous of him. I used to be a. Back in. Back in high school state champion weightlifter. And, man, now when you go grab Sean. Holy cow. When you grab Sean now, you're like, man rocked up. I have really gotten weak in my 50s. Okay, so there's an element. Go ahead.
- [42:01]
Pat McAfee
No. Yeah, I want to. Oh, yeah.
- [42:02]
Ty Schmidt
I had to bring that on only because I'm jealous. Human nature. Jealous of Sean. Right. He gets the video. I mean, but again, he was using that safety bar. Back in my day, Pat, we didn't do safety bar.
- [42:13]
Pat McAfee
No, no.
- [42:14]
Ty Schmidt
This is straight bar. This is old school.
- [42:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [42:17]
Ty Schmidt
Put it on your back, go down, get parallel. You know, kind of stare at the judges and come up.
- [42:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [42:23]
Ty Schmidt
Not this.
- [42:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Not the safety bar. Yeah. Now, did I immediately text Andrew Whitworth and ask him, where can I get that safety bar from my gym? Yeah. Is that the only bar I'm going to squat with for the rest of my life? Yeah. But Sean getting after it in there with wit, with.
- [42:40]
Ty Schmidt
Look at that WWE championship belt he's got on.
- [42:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Whitworth's wearing one of those as well in there. And, you know, he's got a dumper still. He's still got a big pooper. You know, that thing is way out there. Good explosion. So you don't lift over at the Village. You don't get in there.
- [42:57]
Ty Schmidt
It's interesting. Ryan Sorensen, who. Who works with Wit, who trains. I can tell you this, Pat there. A little bit after Covid got back into working out a little bit with Ryan Sorensen, Witt was still playing then. So they. Wit didn't have his gym then. I can tell you this. I went through about a year with Ryan, and I looked at him, I said, ryan, you know what? I work out to have fun. This is. This is just not fun. I mean, he would wear me out. I would want to throw up doing just bands. A band workout. And I'm like, you know what? I didn't come here to puke doing bands. But you know what? They've gotten Sean into doing it. And boys, he obviously, you know, the tape, the tell of the tape, the tape doesn't lie. They're saying £500 on his back.
- [43:40]
Pat McAfee
They're saying, Puka's puking. All those workouts. Sounds like Ryan Sorensen is a Puke Bucket creator. I, I, oh, there's nothing.
- [43:47]
Ty Schmidt
He's all, yeah, he's Puke Bucket. I can tell you this, though, about Puka. I don't. It seems like Puka pukes all the time. First quarter, it could be after a touchdown, it could be at halftime.
- [43:57]
Pat McAfee
I think he just puked. Can't spell, you know, I don't. That's true. Puka is the best.
- [44:04]
Ty Schmidt
He, he is going back to that. I do think here's the neat thing about Sean and working with him is obviously Sean, his coaches, they design the systems, right, of what they're trying to get accomplished on game day, how they're going to deploy each player. And Sean's got this way and it's why he's going to be really good on television. He can explain it in a madness way where it's playing as sight as, you know exactly right? What type of player, what edge they bring to the table, no matter where they're at in the draft and free agency and how they can really, really help us in a specific role. And I think that's one of the, that's one of the, that's why devonte watched that video and said, you know what? We're going to have fun in la. But you know what? They prioritize football there. Guess what? When we go have personnel meetings or draft meetings or free agency meetings. Yeah, we're going to be, we're going to be throwing around some what's the movie? Wedding Crashers quotes.
- [45:00]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [45:01]
Ty Schmidt
But Sean's also going really, really articulate along with his staff. Hey, you know what? This is what we need this position to do. Right. And it might even be Pat, a punter who not only can putt, but can kick off. So that's why we drafted Ethan Evans in the, in the probably fifth, sixth round a couple of years ago. Right? Because we knew we might have been going with an older kicker. Didn't want to, you know, waste his leg kicking off. So it's, it's very clear and concise on what we're looking for.
- [45:29]
Pat McAfee
That's. I love that you think that deep. And I like that his communication ability probably helps out the entire building. Hey, this is what we need. This what we're looking for. You can obviously go find that Ethan Evans is a dog you're talking about in the weight room now. He, he's posting videos of him squatting and deadlifting and he's a monster. You got a lot of monster.
- [45:46]
Ty Schmidt
You got to get your producers, directors, whoever's down. I Mean, I feel like we should have some clips going of Ethan Evans right about.
- [45:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, director, get to it back there.
- [45:56]
Ty Schmidt
Let's go back to back. Kind of rich Eisen 40. This thing with, you know, Ethan and Sean squatting.
- [46:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Well, I think Ethan's got him pretty good. This is him right here.
- [46:05]
Ty Schmidt
Oh. Oh, that's a hell of a job by someone in your world.
- [46:09]
Pat McAfee
That's all Zito in the back. I don't know if he's directing anything, but he's certainly producing some magic back.
- [46:13]
Ty Schmidt
Think about this. This is our head coach and punter. You know, this isn't an offensive lineman that you don't know their name. This is a head coach and punter.
- [46:21]
Pat McAfee
They're saying £585 right there. Ethan Evans, the punter. It's like, hell, yeah, they got dogs over there in la. Now. Speaking of that, let's go to your drafting process. AP Tone has a question for you.
- [46:32]
Darius Butler
Yeah, last People are starting to notice that you might have a kind of guy that you go, all these stud defensive linemen that you have drafted, they all started at small schools and then transferred to bigger schools and had success there. First went to Albany, Turner was at Richmond, Byron Young was at Georgia Military, and Fisk was at Western Michigan before they all transferred to their schools. Is that, is that just a coincidence or is there something in guys going up a level, continuing to play well that you like in drafting a defensive lineman that has been so successful?
- [47:03]
Ty Schmidt
You know, I think it's probably a very fruitful coincidence. It's not necessarily a prerequisite at the end of the day, but I do think that the moral to that story, or maybe a lesson in there is, is right. Each one of those players bet on themselves along the way. Each one of those players, right, had this dream to play at a certain level of the video game and maybe out of high school didn't quite get to the level of the video game they wanted to, but you know what? They signed up, they persevered, they were resilient, they got better each day and they worked their way up to that next level, the video game. And when they got there, guess what?
- [47:41]
Pat McAfee
They.
- [47:41]
Ty Schmidt
They dominated. And you know what we said, you know, hey, let's make you. Let's bring you to the Rams house per se.
- [47:47]
Pat McAfee
The Young core D line is probably what makes you most excited about the potential next few years and what you think this team could be. You have some pivotal positions on young contracts. That is a massive ordeal, I would assume. And at what moment this past season. Did you know that these guys could be real? Because at the beginning they're going into the trade deadline, it was, maybe you guys are going to be sellers. Like, hey, maybe this isn't the year. Then I think some health happened. Is that the moment that you realize, like, maybe this year is a good year for this team, or did you think you were a year out? How did you kind of view that young defense and defensive line throughout the.
- [48:22]
Ty Schmidt
Season from the start? From the start, we always knew, okay, we appreciate it on paper, right. Who we thought these players could be and where they could get to. Maybe they weren't there then, and probably as individuals and even as a collective unit, but each game you could tell, you could see that group evolving again as individuals and then as a group. And then obviously at the, you know, end of the season, they were applying as much pressure and as. And we even had some of those games, right. Unshawn McVeigh, like games where we're winning. We're winning 10 to nine per se. We were a defensive bunch, so we always felt like, let's just. Let's just hang in there. Let's let this group keep evolving again. When you're one in four and you got a Thursday night game probably against the probably 3 and 1 or 41 Minnesota Vikings, and boy, that's when. When they were rolling and coach Flores had, you know, they were. They were coming. That's not where you want to be. But you know what, that challenge that, you know, that was a pivotal challenge that, that this young team and we were taking on water, too. Some of our. Some of our studs were still injured and we. We didn't have them back, but we got Puka back that night. He ignited a confidence in the building where, you know what, originally he was going to play the following week. He walked in on Monday and said, you know what? Let's do it on Thursday night. And I think. I think from that moment on, them, let's go, let's go. Let's get in the ring and make this happen. And then you just take it one at a time. But going back to the defense, you could see them, that they. You felt like they were going to evolve and they got there pretty quick.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I'd say. And then I remember after that Thursday night, remember you guys ripped the helmet off the guys. Yeah, right. Yeah. Sam killed Darnold right off of Sam's head there. Yeah. That's how you guys want to get. I remember that. You guys cheated, but nonetheless, you guys get a big time Win. I remember that. You remember that.
- [50:08]
Ty Schmidt
Obviously you got to every now and then, you know, you got to get return on. Good luck.
- [50:14]
Pat McAfee
Every now and then.
- [50:15]
Ty Schmidt
Official misses the call. Don't complain about it, you know, either. Sometimes it goes your way, sometimes it doesn't.
- [50:20]
Pat McAfee
Amen. Now, going your guys way multiple times in big situation down in New Orleans. Nonetheless. Nonetheless, I love it. Means you guys are living right. That's why it's happening. But from that moment, I think once you guys started winning, it was like, these guys are going to be trading at the deadline too. Wait a minute. Nobody wants to see the Rams right now. And that's literally how the season and ended all the way up into that Eagles game. Whenever Jalen Carter just decides he's going to become a superhuman again in the middle of that, it's like your team was fun to watch this year. It was like watching a team kind of go, I don't want to say this is a bad example, but I just want to. From JV to like varsity, it was like watching your team evolve into like the team that they can be excited to watch them going forward. Now on that note, you had to pick or you had to fix a very important part of the team. Good con man. Yeah.
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Boston Connor
Another group that involved evolved less was the offensive line. And you guys actually just moved on from Jonah Jackson just because of how good the draft picks that you had kind of worked out. How did that kind of progress throughout the year and how hard is it to find the right lineman for, you know, a Sean McVay system?
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Ty Schmidt
It's. It's a little bit difficult.
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Evan Fox
Right.
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Ty Schmidt
Because we have a specific skill set, but we won't get into that. I think it. We always want quality offensive line going to Jonah, and he's a quality offensive lineman. I mean, we've seen what he's. What he did in Detroit. The interesting thing there is, is we attempted to move Steve Avila, who had played really well at guard for us his rookie year, to center. He had been a center and guard at tcu. And at the end of the day, both Steve, when Steve got injured during the process of, you know, training to be the center, Jonah has a center background to him. So we even said, let's move Jonah there now that Steve's hurt. And then Jonah got hurt end of the day. Now we're training two players who been a guard in the NFL. We're trying to make them center and oh, boy, it's not going well and they're both injured. And so when we're in Camp in pads when you really are, you know, stressing under fire to figure out can we do this? We didn't have either one of those. Then here comes Bo Lemmer says I'll take the job. So at the end of the day, once we got to the end of the season and we were probably again return on bad luck, right? Bad luck being the injury to Steve Avila and Jonah Jackson. The good luck. We drafted Bo Lemmer. So now we felt like we were probably one extra starter in terms of Jonah, Steve and Big K Dot at guard. And we felt like this was the best thing for the team and even Jonah because we could have brought Jonah back. We could have gone to a three guard rotation. You might have an injury and Jonah fits right in. But I know Jonah really wanted to, to, you know, go play, have a chance. And then they got to give Jonah Jackson credit. Pat, you've been in the locker rooms. This guy's making $17 million. He. He goes through feeling guilty like, I'm not starting and I'm making 17. And you're like, you know what? It's okay. We got into a conundrum, but we're winning here. And he goes out and he does scout team. I mean it, it.
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Pat McAfee
He.
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Ty Schmidt
He's like the leader. I mean that, that's a man. And I, I wish him him nothing. And I know why Ben Johnson and. And the Bears and Ryan Poles. I know why they. They attacked and attacked going after him because of Ben's. Ben's probably relationship with him in Detroit and Chicago needing offensive linemen and let's go rest history.
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Pat McAfee
Congrats to Chicago. Sounds like you're getting a dude, you know, like that type of buy in and I feel bad.
- [53:45]
Ty Schmidt
You're getting a dude. That's a dude.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's what. Hey, look at Chicago. Wow. Hey, look at Chicago. Hey, last question here. We're coming up on a hard out. We can't thank you enough for your time. Honestly. This is very, very kind of you. Shout out to artists, you know, shout out to any artist in the office that threw my face as a jacked person. What should we know about this particular draft? You know, there's a lot of conversation about like, is there high end talent? Is there more depth of talent? Like what do you think about this particular draft class as a whole and what will the storyline be, you think the day after the draft, you know.
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Ty Schmidt
Every draft has talent. It'll be a fun draft. Only because you think about last year 7. I think we picked 19 last year 7 QBs went before pick 19. It's probably a reason why someone like Jared Verse got pushed to 19. You never know. Maybe with a fallen 19. Anyway, maybe we've gone pick 15, six, I don't know, a little bit earlier. If it wasn't those seven QBs, it doesn't seem like this year there's going to be seven QBs that go before pick 19. So that is going to be the. For the first time in a While, how many QBs actually go in the first round? How many go, you know, before pick 15? All those things. And what that does now is all of a sudden, let's call it, position players start getting picked right earlier and earlier. So it's going to be a fascinating draft of position players and not just QB dominated. And it'll be fun to, hey, take the day after the draft, whatever that storyline is. That's. That's going to be irrelevant. That'll be good content for maybe your show on Monday, maybe Tuesday. But I can tell you this, it'll be interesting to see, right, how these players who get picked in this first round and even second round things like that, what they're doing two and three years down the road. Only because, hey, it's going to be the first year where it might be the least amount of QBs, you know, picked in the first round in a long time.
- [55:37]
Pat McAfee
I love the general manager saying, yeah, we're judging drafts the day after the draft. Why don't we wait two, three years and see who's a winner, who's not. You certainly, certainly have been. And we appreciate you taking the time. Les. Have a great day.
- [55:49]
Ty Schmidt
Hey, appreciate it. Always enjoy it.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, can artists sign that photo and send that or is that dry erase?
- [55:55]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, we're sending it to you.
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Pat McAfee
Thank you. Artists. I need an autograph from you. Artists. Appreciate that. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Les need. That was awesome, artists. What a relationship.
- [56:08]
Boston Connor
Yeah, that was an interesting little photo there.
- [56:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I don't know what happened there. His example was the person in the office draws the person who's the most important on zoom to put over there. And I think that's less trying to put us over there. Sure. I do wonder if they just had a photo of me in Artis's office there for like the last three dartboard type thing. I don't know if it's a dartboard or exactly because I think, I think some. I don't know about all people, but I think there is a good amount of people at the Los Angeles Rams building who watch our program for sure and are fans of our program, but we never reach out to them because of their PR guy. Artists.
- [56:40]
Boston Connor
Yes.
- [56:41]
Pat McAfee
So then artists at super bowl comes over and goes, hey man, if I I apologize.
- [56:46]
AJ Hawk
I don't know how this gas side works.
- [56:47]
Pat McAfee
I don't know what I yeah. And I'm like, that was very kind of you. And I told him what happened. He goes, I I'm sorry I did that. And it was probably just like a glip, a blip in his world. But for me, I'm like, fuck that guy. He's a good man. So are the Rams. It's playoff time and it's now or never. Don't miss out on the last few weeks of football action with Prize Picks the best place to win cash while watching the playoffs. With over 10 million members and billions of dollars in awarded winnings, Prize Picks has made daily fantasy sports accessible to all. The app is really simple to use. Pick two or more players across any sport, pick more or less on their projection and you can win up to 1000 times your money. Prizepix now offers MasterCard for quick and easy deposits into your account this sports season. Join prizepix, America's 1 daily fantasy sports app available to play in more than 40 plus states including California and Texas. Prizepix the best place to win cash while watching the playoffs Download the Prize Picks app today and use code TPMS and get $50 instantly when you play $5. That's code TPMS on prizepix to get $50 instantly when you play$5. You don't even need to win to receive the $50 bonus. It's guaranteed prizepix run. Your game must be present in certain states. Visit prizepix.com for restrictions and details. It's happening again Bracket Brain that time of year when basketballs backboards and buzzer beaters start bursting into view. You start seeing 12 seeds upsetting 5.
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Seth Greenberg
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Pat McAfee
Showing up at every turn.
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Seth Greenberg
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Pat McAfee
Challenge app and fill out your men's bracket by tapping into the number one bracket game. Your bracket brain will thank you. Presented by Allstate Madness is happening tonight. March Madness officially tips off with a couple playing games on TruTV starting at 6:40 Eastern. Where's TruTV? That's a question you're asking yourself. You find it tonight because you're need it. Okay? You're going to need it this weekend. You're going to need it for about the month going forward. Because we're about to find out who's the greatest college basket basketball team on planet Earth. Madness is in store. Magic is on the horizon. And one team will change the trajectory of their school forever. In one team cheated their way in to the entirety of it in the North Carolina Tar Heels, Allegedly. Now, are they going to beat San Diego State tonight? They're favored by four and a half. Sure. If they were to play West Virginia, would they beat West Virginia? No, I don't think so.
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Boston Connor
No way.
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Pat McAfee
Especially from what I've been looking into. How are you in Quad One games, unc? Not good. How's West Virginia in Quad One games? Great. Ask the governor of West Virginia. He'll tell you all of the stats. But tonight, the madness starts. And I'll tell you, I'm not obviously, clearly the biggest college basketball human. Okay. I didn't grow up in a college basketball town. Although the pit teams were good with Dixon as the coach.
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Darius Butler
Very good.
- [59:44]
Pat McAfee
They were awesome to watch, they were fun to watch, and I did follow along, but I didn't keep track of everything going on. Every single year, it's the same story. Whenever we get captivated by this particular sport. We get captivated by the performances and the storylines, and we get captivated by some small school that goes on a run. Because all you gotta do is get hot for eight games, seven games, whatever it is, six games, whatever the hell it is, you get it. And if you get hot, you steal the show. And some guys will launch themselves into lottery picks. Some guys will change an entire state's economy. Yeah. Some team will disappoint everybody. And that's what the madness is all about. The talks at tables here at Boston Conor hat. Tyson Con man. This is the best fit you've ever had on this show. Wow. Yes, that. Thank you very agree.
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Darius Butler
I thought the same.
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AJ Hawk
Really?
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Pat McAfee
While we were talking in the first hour, you were speaking, and I didn't want to interrupt you and just stop you from what you were saying, but I was like, the hat bill matches the hoodie. And then I believe the under half of. Of the. Yeah. I mean, and then this is blue. And on your hat, there's blue.
- [60:45]
Boston Connor
Blue.
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Pat McAfee
I mean, it's. Yeah.
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Darius Butler
Because a lot of times the pants are black with like a blue T shirt.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. You dress like an.
- [60:50]
Boston Connor
Usually I have a purple T shirt.
- [60:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But that looks kind of bluish, especially next to the.
- [60:55]
Boston Connor
I was gonna wear the purple wolf shirt.
- [60:58]
Pat McAfee
Dude.
- [60:59]
Boston Connor
Thank you very much. I appreciate that. While you were talking about that is magical.
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Pat McAfee
Like, Marty, that's madness. March right there. This is madness.
- [61:05]
Boston Connor
It's madness.
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Pat McAfee
This is one shiny moment for your fit.
- [61:09]
Boston Connor
This is my first good fit. I really appreciate that. I. You know, this is a surreal experience. While we were talking about that, I feel like I just remembered everything about D.J. burns last year. NC State, the big man. We were kind of having a conversation with him before. I believe he is now in South Korea, basically running the entire country, playing basketball over there, leading some team to what is sure the South Korean basketball championship, I would assume. But it is. There's always those players that, you know, change their lives, change the economy, but also just like come out of nowhere and make a name for themselves. Like I'll always.
- [61:41]
Pat McAfee
And then disappear and then. Yeah.
- [61:43]
Boston Connor
And then become nothing.
- [61:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [61:44]
Boston Connor
Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You understand what I'm saying? In the basketball world, like Steph Curry, for instance, became. You know, Steph Curry started as Davidson. I didn't know who that was until that incredible run. And then now he's, you know, considered one of the greatest college basketball players, or, sorry, just basketball players of all time. Then there are DJ Burns who have this incredible run and they just become those players that kind of define March. Because, I mean, what was NC State last year? In 11 seed or.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, something like that.
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Boston Connor
Yeah, something like that. And then DJ Burns became this guy who was scoring 30 every single time they played. Obviously Jimmer for debt, things of that nature as well.
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Pat McAfee
Boom.
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Boston Connor
From Oakland. Yeah, he was incredible.
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Pat McAfee
Who's the. The white dude? Ole Miss.
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Boston Connor
Henderson.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah. Marshall. Henderson.
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Pat McAfee
Marshall.
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Boston Connor
There it is.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. This tournament always great.
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Darius Butler
St. Peter's can't remember his name, but he was.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, Drew.
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Boston Connor
Drew. Peter Eaters.
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AJ Hawk
Doug Eater.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. All right. This is what we're talking about.
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AJ Hawk
Play the game.
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Pat McAfee
And we could have never guessed any of that was going to take place before the tournament.
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AJ Hawk
No.
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Pat McAfee
Which is why this is such a magical ride. You know, for the next couple weeks we get to talk about that's never going to be able to be talked about again. Yeah, there's going to be some coach is going to draw up some play. It's some mid major and he's going to be maybe talked about as going to Iowa. Maybe we're talking about going to Indiana.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Or maybe going to West Virginia.
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AJ Hawk
Three horse race right now.
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Pat McAfee
What the hell is going on with the coaching staff?
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AJ Hawk
I have no idea. Yeah, the. The DeVries situation is crazy. Obviously. There were reports that came out that he was in Iowa City yesterday meeting with their athletic director a Little bit of background for people who don't know. He was Drake's head coach. His younger brother was an All American at Drake.
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Pat McAfee
Is in Iowa.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, yeah. Drake University. Who's in the tournament this year? It's in Des Moines. His younger brother was an All American D lineman at Iowa. Played for the Lions. He played basketball at uni. But a lot of people have said, hey, that's. That's like a dream job. Go back home, be able to coach at Iowa. But now they're saying, hey, Indiana, he's the top. Exactly. He's the top candidate for that. That.
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Pat McAfee
How come West Virginia isn't the top candidate for the Vries?
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AJ Hawk
But that's the thing is he's currently our head coach, but we haven't heard that like, you know, hey, he's done at West Virginia. He's gonna go seek one of these jobs. Now, if he was in Iowa City, then you would think that there's a chance he is looking. But then they're also talking about Drake's head coach where he used to be saying, hey, Indiana also likes him. Iowa likes him. That could be a spot. West Virginia. So it's almost like every coach who is available or who's going to take that next. Next step up, they're either going to find themselves at Iowa, Indiana or West Virginia. So we really don't know what the hell's going.
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Pat McAfee
I talked to Whitey earlier. West Virginia podcast host, of course.
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Boston Connor
Great voiceover guy.
- [64:34]
Pat McAfee
Great voiceover. Did the one whenever we went back to Western.
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Boston Connor
Last place in fantasy football.
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Pat McAfee
West Virginia. Absolutely. Old grandpa West Virginia speed views like a mid major right now. Okay. You just mentioned Drake. Yeah, yeah. They love their coach at Drake. It's like, yeah, West Virginia, we. Their coach might have it. We're in a Big 12. Okay. We have been dancing deep in the dance plenty of times before. Plenty. We have a. Yes. Well, Beeline did it. Huggins did it. Hell, Jerry west played for West Virginia.
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Boston Connor
Okay, let's go.
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Pat McAfee
You need to figure it the out before you start talking. I know you look cool, but let's just.
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Boston Connor
You know, I forgot about Huggy. Same way he forgets, you know, when he's driving.
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Seth Greenberg
I'm a fan.
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Pat McAfee
I like Huggy.
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Boston Connor
I like Huggy.
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Pat McAfee
I love. I believe he is admitted to problems. Obviously can't be doing it. I think he's getting healthier, hopefully, like everybody is. Especially in this particular climate, in world with technology and everything like that. And yeah, I think, yeah, that happened like back to back.
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Boston Connor
It was right. Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Back to back. A lot happened there, but nonetheless, we get kicked out of the tournament for some other team.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
You know, like, clearly 111 bracketologists. They own this shit. By the small school West Virginia.
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AJ Hawk
Absolutely. John stopped almost intentionally, it feels like.
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Pat McAfee
And then now our coach, like, maybe he is okay down there. Down there at West Virginia, it's like, what the. Why is this happening? Ren? Hey, Ren, answer the phone, okay? I don't know who's calling, but answer the phone.
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Boston Connor
I was gonna say he's answering your calls. It's not like he's not picking up the.
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Pat McAfee
Haven't talked to Red in months. Okay. I have not. Months. But Ren needs to answer the phones. I don't know who's calling. He needs maybe pick up the phones. Enough of this. Now. He put out a statement saying DeVries and us have a very good convo. You know, heartbroken for WV hoops. This is after the committee didn't. Last night, Ren put out a quote about, like, hey, the future very bright. Together with De Vries. And, you know, and he is our type of guy. I met him at Rich Rod's press conference. He was there. Cool dude. Very casual. Just walked in, dap up. How you doing? This is what we like. His kid, who was a stud.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Came over from Drake. He gets hurt. Then, like, that was literally the week it happened. Team still goes on to win games. Not enough. They're still in the conversation, which is kind of a tough thing. I think West Virginia, like, oh, this team. How would they do if they did get, you know, like, that whole conversation, they just don't like that they're getting treated as like, a nothing. Like, getting treated like a nothing university in the Devries convo. It's like, yeah, I was going to hire him or Indiana's going to hire him. It's like, I understand Indiana because we live in the state. Love basketball. Okay? Now, Kurt Signetti, what he's been able to do with the football team, how much money he's been able to raise. Has that taken money away from the basketball thing? I doubt it. They fucking. They love hoops out here. They love Hoosier hoops out here. They do not love that. It has been irrelevant for a while at the Indiana basketball operation. So, like, maybe that's like, one of the schools that he could have, like, you know, whenever he was in his thing. I will go back home. I know it's a story and everything like that. Well, you just got to West Virginia, buddy. We got some special stuff to do. Especially after you get job by the ncaa. You can literally use that as an entire motivator. Like my first year here, remember what happened and go on a run. Nobody's saying that, though, for West Virginia. Only thing that's being said is this guy's gone. It's just. Where's he headed to? Where the hell. How the hell is he getting out of the Big 12 to get to the Big 10? It's like, DeVries, we want you, bud. You know, so do we.
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AJ Hawk
So, you know, you guys are gonna have to. Hey, listen, you know, you're gonna have to come to the plate. You're gonna have to come to the plate. Maybe give him a raise or something.
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Darius Butler
I know in football, the coaching contracts are a lot bigger. In the Big Ten, I assume they are a lot bigger in basketball.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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Darius Butler
You know.
- [68:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but the basketball in the Big 12, people been talking about it.
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AJ Hawk
It's good.
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Boston Connor
It is good. Is it because Kansas is like a seven seed now. They kind of basketball, I think Kansas. Okay, and. And Arizona.
- [68:22]
Pat McAfee
What.
- [68:22]
Boston Connor
What's Arizona? Four seed this year. I mean, do they even have a one Bad.
- [68:25]
Pat McAfee
They're under. They're under respect as well. So they got a little chip on their shoulder. Joining us now is a guy whose team didn't make it in the tournament, but they don't care because Ryan Day is talking about football again. Ladies and gentlemen, College football national champions. Super bowl champion, Ryder cup winner, A.J. hawk. A.J. i don't. I don't know if your guys's coach is getting plucked everywhere, but that's happened in West Virginia right now. And I can't wait for these games to start so that the madness isn't just about West Virginia getting fucked. You know, like, I would like the games to start so it can just be that.
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Evan Fox
I tell you what. Governor Morrissey and his presser that you guys showed clips of, that was amazing. When is he citing 111 bracketologists as like his. This is the research. These are the people who are bracketologists. And who names that do you get. When do you go from, hey, I'm a writer to a bracketologist? Like, I'm an expert at this situation?
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Pat McAfee
Well, you just gotta. You gotta showcase an ability.
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Darius Butler
Go to school for it.
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Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, Pete. Yeah. You gotta. You gotta showcase that you're good. You know, like, how do gamblers go from gamblers to professional gamblers? I think it's like a 60 some percent hit or what. There's like a rate that some gambling sites higher again.
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Darius Butler
You gotta quit your day job.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. You Gotta quit your day job, you gotta hit a certain percentage, and then you can become like one of these. At some of these professional gambling sites. Okay? So I think in this particular case, you just gotta get it right most of the time over the years, there's 111 of them. That's a lot. I don't know how many. How many people are getting it right. But we do know, and the governor knows. First time ever, all 111 were wrong. Okay? Not even one in 111 got it right, that West Virginia wasn't going to be in. So Governor Morrissey says they know it better than I do. I mean, I'm about to learn it better than anybody. But I got questions is what Governor Morsi said. Maybe there'll be some transparency. Maybe there'll be some transparency going forward. Speaking of transparency, Pete Damo is reporting that Coach Devries is not a candidate for the Iowa job.
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AJ Hawk
Listen, I love Pete beat Thaml. But he's been wrong several times until. Until. Until it comes out that he is not going to. Yeah, call him. Call Pete right now and I'll let him. I'll let him know. Hey, listen, Pete, back off, all right? I'm telling.
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Pat McAfee
He went over there and he said, this ain't it. That's what he said.
- [70:30]
AJ Hawk
Well, maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But you know what? Pete Thaml is not the arbiter on everything.
- [70:37]
Evan Fox
He's kind of is.
- [70:38]
AJ Hawk
He is.
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Ty Schmidt
He is.
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AJ Hawk
But guess what? Pete's been wrong before and he might be wrong again.
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Pat McAfee
Okay? Obviously, he's taking a lot of hacks in the batter's box every once in a while. You're gonna miss the ball. We are calling, currently the authority. We are joined, ladies and gentlemen, by the authority in college football and back in college basketball, full time, Pete Damel. Yeah, it's great to see. Great to see prison Pete out here. Yes, it is great to see Cool Pete took. What do you guys call it in Canada? What is that? A toque is what you call. That's a toque. Yeah. Beanie, a toque Tossel, you name it. You look awesome, Pete. You just obviously sent some shock waves through this particular Thunderdome because Devries, obviously West Virginia's head coach one year, got jobbed out of that tournament. Everybody knows 111 bracketologist. Probably Pete being one of them, did not see this coming. So he was being tied to the Iowa job. This morning I woke up to a bunch of people saying he's being tied to the Indiana job. I heard nobody saying he was still tied to West Virginia, which obviously had me a bit upset. What is the current situation with Coach DeVries and why is he not a candidate for the Iowa job? I thought that was like dream job for him and they need a coach for the first time in 15 years. Pete. Yeah.
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Pete Thamel
So good. All good questions, Pat. I, I feel like we're going to, you know, this is a little bit of a domino effect, right? I do feel like we're going to get some clarity on the, on where Indiana is headed here in the next couple days and perhaps sooner. There's been, you know, I reported Saturday on college basketball game day that, you know, the Iowa search was focused on three different candidates. Ben McCollum, Darren DeVries and Clemson's Brad Brunell. Kendall. Tom's obviously the Dr. Drake coach. So two of those coaches are in the NCA tournament and one of them isn't. Obviously you can ask the governor of your, the state where your alma mater lies, what happened, what happened with them. So I do feel like Indiana's cards are going to be shown pretty quickly here, Pat. On, on, on where they go and then that will ripple into Iowa's options.
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Pat McAfee
Why is devries not. Okay, thank you for all that information. Why is devries not a candidate for the Iowa job? They just didn't like the cut of his jib.
- [73:00]
Pete Thamel
I, you know, because now I'm a.
- [73:03]
Pat McAfee
Little bit offended that you guys don't want our coach now. Now I'm like, did you see what he did? I don't think that's.
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Pete Thamel
I think Iowa has been interested in Darren Devries. I don't think it's from, I don't think it's from Iowa's side. There's a, there's a large buyout involved which, which could be a factor here. Yeah, I was, I was in an interesting, interesting situation right now. I would expect if Darren Devries does go to Indiana, which is at least a possibility at this point, that, you know, Ben McCollum would be right at the forefront of that Iowa search. He's obviously right there. Drake, he's won four national titles. He's an, he's an excellent coach. So, yeah, it's. These things are always very fluid, Pat, and it's, it's a very interesting situation right now between your home state and ties alma mater.
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Pat McAfee
So let's say Devries leaves West Virginia. Don't love it. What is the percentage of that? And also who would West Virginia hire then? So now we're all of a sudden what behind on the coaching Hiring cycle, and we're jobbed by the ncaa. Where's West Virginia basketball standing all this?
- [74:08]
Pete Thamel
So I think West Virginia basketball is going to be fine. They just ran a coaching search last year. Those pools are there. Ren Baker, the athletic jerk, has a background in basketball, which is pretty rare, and in modern college athletics, most of these guys come through business or football. He came up and was a basketball manager, was actually a basketball coach. So he ran a full search last year. You know, I think they'd be able to go and go and go pretty fast, quite frankly, because they've likely spoken to, you know, within the last 11 months, everybody who would be at the forefront of their list. So I wouldn't think it would take much time to flip that and look like, you know, there's a. You know, everybody's going to want the Alabama job, the cowboy job, like Indiana is one of those jobs. So I don't think it's an indictment on West Virginia. They've certainly been aggressive in trying to keep him.
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Pat McAfee
Pat.
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Pete Thamel
I just think. I just think that, you know, sometimes when you. When you get. When you get called up, you got to go. So we'll. We'll see if, you know, we'll see in the next. In the near future where Indiana turns.
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Pat McAfee
All right, we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, the authority, Pete Thamel. Have a great march. Called up.
- [75:13]
Evan Fox
Get called up to Iowa. You gotta go.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [75:15]
Pat McAfee
All right. He was talking about what he said, right?
- [75:17]
Evan Fox
Oh, I thought he meant both of them.
- [75:18]
Pat McAfee
No, no, he said Indiana.
- [75:20]
Boston Connor
They're both in the same.
- [75:22]
Pat McAfee
Indiana is like Alabama Cowboys is what he said. So, I mean. I mean, I do understand, because these people in this state, like, if I didn't live in Indiana and I didn't marry into a Hoosier family, Indiana Hoosiers fan family. I don't think I would fully understand. These fuckers love the Indiana Hoosier basketball team. It's a big deal, which is why state of ball, it has been such a heartbreaker for so long, which is why it gets so loud, because they haven't been good, these people, the parent, the fathers and the father's fathers and the mothers and the mother's mothers. They came up with Bob Knight, like, they have a basketball hall of fame here. Bob Knight was obviously here. The pinstripe, the. The Hoosier stripes mean. I mean, and you're talking about basketball. You know, the high school basketball here. Thousands and thousands in gyms around here. The high school state tournament, Very, very big deal. Like, they love hoops here. Before Peyton Manning got here. This was a hoops and racing town in a hoops and racing state. Fully, fully. We like racing. We like the Indy 500, obviously. We got hundreds of thousands of people coming here. All the teams are basically hubbed here. This is the home for an entire race league pretty much. We love it here. Take care of them here. And then also hoops, we love hoops here. We got the hall of Fame here, we got the Hoosiers here, the Pacers. You know, when Reggie was going on everything, it's like hoop state. Which is why Signetti being able to win is pretty mind boggling, to be honest.
- [76:55]
Evan Fox
So cool.
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Pat McAfee
That has never been even a thought that the Indiana football team was going to be good and. And nobody cared. Like nobody. It was like a football team. Yeah, all right.
- [77:05]
Evan Fox
Yeah, you're right.
- [77:05]
Pat McAfee
Couple hundred people. Yeah, they didn't. It was like, is our basketball team good or not? Like that was the. And that's.
- [77:10]
Evan Fox
When did Bob Knight leave Indiana for real? That's like he set the stage for. He set the foundation. I feel like obviously the movie Hoosiers back in the day, I don't know. Have young kids seen Hoosiers though? Do they even know about it?
- [77:18]
Pat McAfee
They know about it, yes. And every kid in Indiana has a. Oh yeah, every single one of them. It doesn't matter what they're built like, what they look like, how many sports they play. Have an ability to shoot a ball. You'll just learn that you go to an LA Fitness or something, you'll see some bum looking kid and then he gets the ball in a corner and that thing's gonna go in somehow and it's like, oh, it's Indiana. Everybody here can shoot. Joining us now is a man who knows more about hoops than we do. And we'll ask him about everything that the authority, Pete Thammel just said. Ladies and gentlemen, front of the program now at this point, you know, I think we can say that. From ESPN's college basketball analysis, former coach in the ACC, law time coach Seth Greenberg.
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Seth Greenberg
What's up boys? Good time of the year.
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Pat McAfee
Now it is active time of the year. I saw you on TV last night on a college game night. You guys were pulling different categories and spinning a wheel and giving takes with zooming. I saw you on get up this morning, which leads me to this. For those that didn't see this man on get up this morning, this was said. So it's a fascinating thought from Pitino. And here's my uncle Seth. Seth Greenberg, no relation with thoughts on that. Seth, we live in a world where the. Where football drove conferences to do all sorts of things that made a lot of sense for financial reasons and positively no sense for any other reasons. Basketball, on some level, I guess we could say, was something of a casualty of that. What do you make of the idea. He said the words in basketball. What do you make of the idea of something like the ACC and Big east forming a conference together in basketball?
- [78:55]
Seth Greenberg
I think it makes sense. Two years ago, I had a conversation with the people in the ACC office and exactly said that to them. They got to get back to the roots. The ACC was built on college basketball. I understand the money is in the football side of it, but you know what? You could create a super conference, the best conference in all of college basketball. You got to give these schools the resources. But you know what? Merging the ACC and the Big East. Think about the matchups you would have. They wouldn't be games, they'd be events. You'd get back to the old school rivalries of the old Big east, but then you'd bring in some new rivalries, like a Connecticut against North Carolina, Connecticut against Duke. To me, it makes sense. You've got to find a way to make it happen. And like Chip Kelly said this a couple months ago, he said what. What college athletics needs to do. And this made a lot of sense. Regionalize everything else but football. If you regionalize everything else but football, to me, that's a win for everyone.
- [79:50]
Pat McAfee
Okay, Seth, you're the first person we're hearing it from. The basketball world, obviously, we heard it from Chip in the football world. How likely is that to happen? Because the Biggie still existing whenever the Big east football kind of got rid of, kind of leads me to think there is precedent for basketball being able to make their own decisions. Do you think that's ever possible with the acc, Big east for basketball? Because the more you talk about it and when Pitino mentioned it yesterday to us, that was the first time I had heard of it. And then my brain did the same thing you did. We got UNC and UConn happening at Madison Square Garden. We got duke taking on St. John's and like the matchups are, you know, very. What is the likelihood of that happening? How slow does basketball move? Verse kind of football?
- [80:28]
Seth Greenberg
Seth, Basketball could move real quickly. The problem is the football element. The football is the one that moves slowly because all these TV contracts are tied into football. So, Pat, you've got a good voice. You can make this happen sooner than later. I mean, if you can get behind this. I mean, you could be like the guy behind changing the world of college athletics just by saying, wait a second, regionalize hoops and all the non revenue sports. Obviously hoops, not the non revenue. And then let's take football, put it on its own island because you could play one football game a week and travel cross country. You can't. Like, look, I'm not the smartest guy in the world, but like Stanford and Cal and the acc. I didn't take geography at Fairleigh Dickinson, Harvard on the hack attack, but they're not the acc. I'm sorry. And you've got UCLA and USC going and playing Big Ten games. Come on, man. I mean, it just doesn't make sense. So like we've got to use common sense. And then for the acc, first of all, I don't know how they did bring UConn in when they did expansion. Stanford, Cal, UConn, like which one would you guys pick? Okay, I mean, I mean, I mean that doesn't make any sense. But to me the ACC's got to get back to some way through. They got four teams in the NCAA tournament this year. That's like sacrilegious. You think about ACC basketball, you think about the best teams and great rivalries and great programs. Why not find a way to adopt, partner with or whatever you might want to call it the Big East. Create this mega basketball conference, have all this inventory, share your revenue share. Obviously football money is going to be taken out of it and create something different, special and think outside the box.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so my question for you would be this. We talked to Pitino later in that conversation. He Talked about how St. John's doesn't have a football team. So the revenue share thing is going to be a lot to basketball and it's going to be a lot to these other sports. Do you think the ACC will ever be able to keep up with like the Big Ten has a lot of money. Okay? They have a lot of money and they're putting it into football. I assume they're putting it into basketball and will only continue to do so. The SEC is putting a lot of investment into its basketball. We talked to Greg Sankey yesterday and he's like, there was a mission statement sent out that we need to be better at men's basketball and they all kind of took adhere to it and now they're record breaking with the amount of teams they get in the tournament. Will the ACC every ever be able to keep up with everybody else? Now I'm not saying Big east is underhanded or anything like that, but UConn, all the money is probably going to be going to basketball as well. St. John's same exact thing. The ACC, they still got to compete against their football teams, right? Whenever it comes to the revenue share, do they have enough nil and money to be able to keep up with everybody else for the state of basketball, do you think?
- [83:04]
Seth Greenberg
I think they have the money. Are they willing to spend the money? They're willing to make the investment. Like, you know, Pat's. Like anything else, your investment equals your expectation. If you want to be good at something, all right, whether it's in a work or whether it's in. In athletics, you got to invest in it, man. Like, you want to keep on changing coaches, great. You're going to hire another coach. Don't give him the resources he needs, and you're going to have the same result. Like stupid people do the same things over and over and over again. Smart people, you know what they do? They look at things through a different prism and say, you know what? If we want to be good, we've got to make a change and how we're going to do it, we got to invest. Invest in infrastructure, invest in coaches and invest in nil. Because without that, I don't care how good that coach is, without that, you don't have the resources. You're not with Rick Pitino. He's got Rapoli, he's got the water Vitamin, man, running around, hanging out, you know, dropping hundred dollar bills. Come on, man. I mean, like, you know, you. I'd be a better recruiter, I'd be a much better coach. If I had a dude like that hanging on with me, like, hey, let's go. That dude's pretty good. Can we get him? All right, let's go. Let's get it done.
- [84:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's good recruiting. I think it's good tool, but it's needed now, you know, like it is a necessity. And I do wonder with some schools that are like historic, if their boosters and their money people are going to understand that they need to pitch in. It's not just name anymore. It is. It is a lot that has to go into a lot of commitment. I. That acc, Big east thing would be so cool. Yeah, that would be for basketball reasons. That would be insane. Hopefully they're able to get it done. Done. Sounds like you should maybe be a commissioner this entire thing. AJ Has a question for you. Coach.
- [84:37]
Evan Fox
Coach. When you look at this year, the bracket, obviously we're entering A great time. A great time for you. Obviously it's fun to listen to you on tv. And when you would look at this. What, what games in this first round are you. You pointing out that you want to watch? Do you think some fireworks might happen? Not maybe a big upset, but maybe some exciting games that people may not be thinking about.
- [84:54]
Seth Greenberg
You're the one person who enjoys listening to me, so I appreciate that.
- [84:58]
Pat McAfee
I do as well. We all do.
- [85:01]
Seth Greenberg
There's five of us, I think. I appreciate that. You and my kids are fascinating game. Obviously you got two time defending champions. Obviously you have Danny. The one thing they struggle defending is the perimeter. And Jeremiah Fears is a bad dude. He reminds me of Kyrie Irving. I mean, he can break people's ankles and get in the lane. They play three guards, which is going to, even though they're undersized, will put a lot of pressure on the defense, perimeter, defensive, UConn. I think that game is a really interesting game to watch just in terms of, you know, Danny's going to be able to score. It's whether they can stop him. And then like even right below that. Colorado State, Memphis. A lot of money's on Memphis. Actually, I guess Memphis is being favored. Nick Clifford is a bad dude as well. He's six six. They play him all over the floor. Colorado State is really, really efficient offensively. They assist on about 60% of their field goals. But more importantly, it's the spacing and how they share the ball and play through this guy. Memphis Penny's done a really good job with this team. Tyrese Hunter, one of his players. A lot of injuries in the NC Olympic tournament this year. He did not play in the conference tournament championship game. They need his leadership. But there's a dude on Memphis, P.J. haggerty. He is a stud. About 22 points a game, about eight rebounds, five assists. Goes to the line about five times a game. Like that dude is really different. He'll be a fun guy to watch. There are so many good matches. How about the conspiracy? I'm gonna do you guys. You guys buy into conspiracies.
- [86:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Bubba Cunningham screwed over West Virginia. Yeah, Seth, we're in on.
- [86:34]
Boston Connor
Think about birds.
- [86:35]
Seth Greenberg
You're all in on it. Like, by the way, you know what a wob is?
- [86:38]
Pat McAfee
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
- [86:39]
Seth Greenberg
I'll tell you the wob. West Virginia got beat by the wob not getting in the tournament.
- [86:44]
Pat McAfee
Okay?
- [86:44]
Seth Greenberg
That's wins above the bubble, you see? Look quickly on West Virginia. You can spin that stuff any which way you want. You could say The Nets most important. You could say wins against the field are most important. You can say Quad One wins are most important. We need one way to evaluate teams for the NCAA Tournament because every single person in the room has their own opinion. And look, I know Bubba. I think he's a really good guy, but, you know, walking out of the room and saying he's not in a room when they're discussing Carolina, that, that's great. Breakfast, loss or dinner, drinks after. I mean, and it's not like something that they would say, hey, you got to vote for us. It would be more like, here's our leader. He's our fearless leader. He's the head of the committee, man. How can we leave his squad out? And you know what they did was the team you guys should really be complaining about is Xavier. Well, I just wanted nine in Quad One. Yeah, I mean, so, yeah, I mean, it is. It is what it is. I mean, you guys won two games without De Vries. When you win at Kansas and you beat Iowa State, you're good.
- [87:44]
Pat McAfee
I would say it was number three in the country, I believe, at the time.
- [87:47]
Seth Greenberg
No, I don't want to get you wound up, Pat. I got enough.
- [87:51]
Pat McAfee
The governor's handling it, Seth. The governor's. Governor's handling it all. Just wants a little bit more transparency. But it does feel like we have a lot of good matchups. It does feel like there's a lot of good storylines, which leads to AP tones. Question for you, coach.
- [88:06]
Darius Butler
Yeah, Coach, I wanted to ask it because I saw this floating around the Internet, that this is the. One of the best tournaments ever, if not the best tournament ever. And they were using Ken Palms rankings. And if people don't know, Ken Palm is a website that, you know, basically calculates offensive and defensive efficiency and things like that and has four of the top six teams all time in his rankings with Duke, Florida, Houston and Auburn. So is this accurate? Accurate that this could be or is one of the best tournament fields of all time?
- [88:34]
Seth Greenberg
Yeah, it could, because it's older. Think about the ages of these guys. I mean, a lot of these teams, you know, Mike Brady used to have to say, get old and stay old. Like you've got like Chad Baker. Mazara would be like the oldest guy on the Oklahoma City Thunder. I mean. I mean, you look at Auburn's team, this fifth and sixth year, seniors on all these teams. So these teams are older, they're more mature, they're more physical. And like the sec, that Final Four, the SEC championship in Nashville, that will be as good, if not better than the final four we're going to get in San Antonio. That's how good it was. So like the themes you mentioned.
- [89:14]
Pat McAfee
No, no, no. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
- [89:16]
Seth Greenberg
Now here's the deal, Pat. Everyone thinks I'm a homer for like John Cal Perry, which is my conspiracy thing. Calipari self to play Rick Pitino. Imagine if it's Calipari and Pitino. That's the all time conspiracy game. Humanly possible.
- [89:30]
Boston Connor
Goblet ghoul.
- [89:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [89:32]
Seth Greenberg
Some people say I hate Duke. Some people say I hate Carolina. So I'm in pretty good shape because I hate both Duke and Carolina and they hate each other. So that puts me in a good place.
- [89:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the enemy of your enemy is your friend. It seems like they both hate you. Maybe that'll be something that can rally them together.
- [89:45]
Seth Greenberg
The enemy of your enemies are your friend. I like that. I might have to stop.
- [89:48]
Pat McAfee
I didn't create that. No, no. Do not give me credit. That has been. That has been around a long time. I believe in political warfare. It is something that is chit chatted a lot and I see it about me a lot. You know, people come together around hating me. So that is a cool thing in my mentions. But Duke in North Carolina, completely opposite ends of the spectrum here, right? This Duke team's supposed to be the one they're saying. This is. Even the books are saying very good odds here. This Duke team, everybody seemingly believes, you know, like they are primed to just. I don't want to say Yukon this thing like Yukon did, but seemingly being talked that way.
- [90:18]
Seth Greenberg
I'm going to give you a little secret. There's another team that's going to Yukon this tournament and that's Florida.
- [90:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you've been on Florida.
- [90:24]
Seth Greenberg
Oh, I'm on Florida now like Duke is. Look, I love Duke. Cooper FL got to be healthy. Malik Brown's got to be able to play. They need that experience in the front court. If he's out, he's got that shoulder injury. You're talking about an experienced player that can defend 4 and 5. Terrific passer, always in the right place. Made a couple threes against Carolina. I mean, but Florida, you know, I joke around. They're no Noah's arc. They got two of everything. I mean, they got two six, 11 big guys. Chingulu just blocks every shot, carves out space, rebounds the ball finishes block shots, does everything you need. They bring handlogman off the bench. Walter Clayton is the best guard in the tournament. And now we want to go deeper into the Conspiracy. If Florida gets to the Elite Eight and St. John's gets to the Elite Eight, that's Rick Patino against Florida. Oh, by the way, Walter Clayton played for Rick Patino at Iona. You see, everything goes back to the conspiracy.
- [91:18]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. And 1100 bucks, I believe, is what was offered by iota. Yeah.
- [91:22]
Seth Greenberg
1100 bucks.
- [91:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [91:24]
Seth Greenberg
And a cup of coffee.
- [91:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. A couple T shirts and a chance to be coached by Rick Matino, who, after talking to him yesterday, we'd like to talk to him. More cerebral, dude. Yeah. A lot of paisans in this college basketball. A lot of Jewish coaches of America, too, by the way.
- [91:36]
Seth Greenberg
The Jewish coaches are taking them. We're glad you brought that up, Pat. We only have. The Jewish guys. Only have three to four. Four coaches in on the number one line.
- [91:43]
Pat McAfee
That's all.
- [91:43]
Seth Greenberg
It's no big thing.
- [91:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but I heard.
- [91:45]
Seth Greenberg
I mean, I. I might make a comeback.
- [91:48]
Pat McAfee
Not a bad idea. Especially if you get on the poly in your corner like you talked about. I saw that account. Jewish Coaches of America. Is that the. Is that the.
- [91:55]
Seth Greenberg
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jca.
- [91:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I saw the.
- [91:58]
Seth Greenberg
We can make you an honorary member now. I mean, if you'd like.
- [92:01]
Pat McAfee
Mazel shalom. I mean, you know, we could have a. I'm not a coach. I'm not a good enough coach. I don't have the patience in there. But I did appreciate the fact, you know, I was like, we got to stick together. And then I wonder if the Italians were like, yeah, we'll meet, but we ain't fucking show anybody. That's a little bit of the difference here. I do respect and appreciate all of that. Con man has a question for you, Coach.
- [92:22]
Boston Connor
Yeah, Coach, what do you think is the most important aspect when it comes to one singular part of the game to make a run in March? You know, Rick Patino mentioned yesterday, you know, you need some luck, or maybe that was izzo, but either way, they mentioned, you know, luck. You need some of that during March, especially, you know, the ball bouncing one way or the other. But is it shooting? Is it defense? Is it kind of, you know, getting a specific possession correctly. What do you think is the most important thing when it comes to making a run to the Final Four?
- [92:50]
Seth Greenberg
Besides having dudes, you need a guy at the end of the game you can give the ball to who can go make a play, because there's a more level playing to. All the teams in the tournament expect to win, and all teams in tournament have won a ton of games. When you get you Know, past the first round. And I think you need a guy at the end of a shot clocker at the end of the game to give the ball to. To go make a play. Now, the thing that complements that is, do you have a style, play that's different. Difficult to prepare for the second day of the tournament, whether it's the second day, the first round, the second day going to the final four, or the second day in the championship game. Because styles make fights. And if you have a style of play that's hard to prepare for in a short period of time, that's an advantage. It's a huge advantage. So I'd say style of play, imposing your identity on the game. No different in football. And then the other thing is, dude, do you have a guy at the end of the shot clock you can give that ball to and play breaks down and he goes and makes a play. Do you have a. Patrick Mahomes?
- [93:52]
Pat McAfee
These are all the stories we were just talking about from previous March Madnesses that, that Doug Eater kid came out of nowhere. He was a guy. Henderson was a guy. Burns.
- [94:00]
Seth Greenberg
Like I was a kid in Oakland last year.
- [94:02]
AJ Hawk
Goalkeeper.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, we talked about him as well. Yeah, it's like those are the dudes that you're talking about.
- [94:06]
Seth Greenberg
Like, yeah, you gotta have a closer.
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Pat McAfee
And that's how we find out and learn about these schools and these players and then we never talk about them ever again. Yeah, it's kind of a wonderful time.
- [94:15]
Boston Connor
It's so much fun.
- [94:16]
Pat McAfee
It is a wonderful time. Things that will be talked about is if somebody big goes down, down early. What a bummer. Ty has a question for you.
- [94:23]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, Coach. When you look at all of the national con title contenders going into this, which one of them do you think got the worst draw and is most susceptible to upset? Within like the first couple days of.
- [94:34]
Seth Greenberg
The tournament, the overall number one seat got screwed. I mean, I mean, it's the way. You can't, you can't explain it anyway, I mean, Auburn, now look, they lost three to last four, but they're overall number one seed. I mean, they're going to have to play Michigan to get to it to advance. Now Michigan just won the Big Ten tournament. Michigan's got two, six, 11, seven foot guys and golden and Danny Wolfe. All right? Danny Wolfe's like, he's a lottery pick. He's a homeless Larry Bird. In a lot of ways, you can run your offense through him. The guy is really, really different. They put those two guys in a ball screen together and it becomes an Absolute problem in terms of how you're going to guard. They got a kid named Trey Donaldson, a point guard who made that big shot against Maryland at the end of the game. Another conspiracy, by the way, because they could potentially play Auburn and Michigan could play now. The Michigan point guard was the Auburn point guard last year. Conspiracies everywhere.
- [95:27]
Pat McAfee
Wait a minute, Whoa. What's going on behind the scenes here?
- [95:30]
Seth Greenberg
I mean, behind the scenes here. But I like this Michigan team. They got enough guys who can make shots. They play really fast. Golden gets baskets around the basket. The kick kid, Wolf, he really is a matchup problem. The only concern for Michigan, they get a little loose with the ball. But I think they've got the toughest second round game in the tournament. Even if they win their first game, they get a Creighton team. Like Creighton is good. The big kid Kalkbrenner, he's like a one man zone. They play fast. A really good passing team. Sneaky defensive team because of stylistically. So I think Auburn got the toughest one and I'd say the other one toughest one second would be used to just. Cause Tennessee, they're so hard to play against. Tennessee, they're so physical and tough.
- [96:14]
Pat McAfee
That SEC championship game was fun to watch. Did see your Florida team do what Florida does though, you know, But I think everybody came away from that game. They're like, Tennessee, real deal. How do you feel about all these teams that played in conference finals and then they have to turn around and play the earliest? Because I heard there were some coaches and some people that are like, yeah, definitely bummed we did didn't win the conference tournament. But also we got an extra five, six days before the big game, you know, in the tournament. Is that a con? Is that a common conversation amongst coaches about the conference?
- [96:45]
Seth Greenberg
It is like, I just want to win championships. You want to win championships. You know, hey, players want to win championships. Because probably with nil, they got bonuses bought into winning championships or advancing even in their conference. Things are written. Having said that. Yeah, I mean, like especially the guys who play on Sunday. Like those five championships that were decided Sunday, if you have a quick turnaround, you go Sunday, Thursday. I mean, you think about football. Guys are used to routine, you know, you know, what day, you know what day you're in pads, what day you're out of pads. Well, so is basketball. So you get back on Sunday after your championship game, you find out who you're playing, you have a team meeting, your coaches scatter because you're in a 14 bracket, basically, you're not worrying about a 68 team field. You're worried about the four teams in your bracket.
- [97:30]
Pat McAfee
All right?
- [97:30]
Seth Greenberg
Your assistant coaches are scurrying around putting together scouting reports, your video guys losing his brain, all right? And you're locked in. But then Monday is film concept work. Tuesday you're on a plane probably, if you're playing Thursday, going to your site. So Tuesday you practice at home. Tuesday afternoon, you probably fly into the site, you get there, you have dinner, you do film again. Wednesday you got that practice on your site. And Thursday you're hooping. So like in recovery time, it's real. Especially if you're going. Sent to the, to the west Coast.
- [98:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Long flight change.
- [98:04]
Seth Greenberg
Get sent to the west coast, it changes a lot. Like, I mean, you know, there are a lot of interesting teams going to the west coast. I mean, in the west, Yukon's got to go cross country. They lost early. You know, Florida played on Sunday. I'm not sure exactly what day they're playing their first game, so. So those things come into play. But I do think that we're so much more aware of taking care of players in terms of hydration, rest, load management. Not load management. Load management in college is recovery days. Jay Wright started the recovery day, or at least talking about it, which means basically recovery days is walkthrough, skill work, shooting weights and ice bath. And he started that. He was really big into that and he was one of the first guys. My daughter played volleyball at Villanova, so I. And Gay's a dear, dear friend, so I go watch the practice all the time. And he, he is, he is amazing on nutrition. Like those guys in their meals, like breakfast, lunch and dinner. Like he. They don't eat, put any crap in their bodies.
- [99:06]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It'd be nice to be jacked and rocked up, you know, that would be super jacked over.
- [99:11]
Seth Greenberg
That would be nice too, too. Unfortunately, this body's beyond repair.
- [99:13]
Pat McAfee
No, no, I think he got a chance. I think especially. Hey, the head looks very round. It's like the dome and dome.
- [99:19]
Seth Greenberg
The dome is in good shape.
- [99:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [99:20]
Seth Greenberg
Put a little dust on the dome and send me out. Let me talk about ball.
- [99:23]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Yeah. And we appreciate the fact that you are. You're teaching us a lot about this year's particular ball. Now, with that being said, AJ has the last question for you. Coach.
- [99:31]
Evan Fox
Yeah, Coach. We hear about a team like BYU that relies on on the three so much. Do teams like this, like, other than byu, but teams around the, you know, this tournament that rely on the three ball so much do they worry you? Possibly if they go cold for a game or two that they get knocked out?
- [99:47]
Seth Greenberg
Yeah, I mean 100%. But at the BYU, it's not just their shooting threes, it's how they get them. They get them with their spacing, they get them with step up ball screens, they get them with shallow cuts and slot drives and kick outs and they put you in rotation. So it's how they get them. But that's who they are. Like, here's the thing, like who are you and how do you win? I don't care what sport you play, like, who are you? If you could impose that identity. And all of a sudden now, like if you're a really great transition team, what does that do to your defense? All right, you're not sending as many guys to the offensive glass because if you send a bunch of guys to the offensive glass, then you can't set your defense. People in transition and they're getting shots you want. So like teams like that, people don't. There's a residual effect of that playing style that is interesting. Like, like shooting all those threes, what does that create? Long rebounds. All right, so now we're used to like hitting and going rebounding ball. Now you're hitting, that thing might be flying over the top of your head.
- [100:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [100:40]
Seth Greenberg
So imposing identity on the game. So, you know, like Ryan Odom plays dead. He's my former assistant, he's the coach of vcu. Like we spent a bunch of time yesterday talking about how they're going to defend the ball screens, how much pressure they can put on and then making sure they cover what I. We used to call the elbows and the blocks. The guards have to come back and rebound. Instead of leaking out those guards, you can test the shot. You got to come back and get ready to help rebound the ball because most of those rebounds are going to come either off the corners or back. So of course, you know, if you could impose your identity on a game, even though you're not making a ton, you got to make some. Like Cal Perry had a great line. You don't have to make them all, but you can't miss them all.
- [101:18]
Pat McAfee
I mean, like. Yeah, but some of those three point shooting teams, they go ice cold. And I'm only saying that from like watching, watching West Virginia for a while. West Virginia for a while there was a three point shooting team and boy, when they were falling, you knew early, you knew like the first five minutes what the night was going to be. Like electrifying. And then whenever it was a miss, it was like, this one's going to be a grind. And then inevitably that was their fate. Always they would get cold. Now they make it a long way, but they would get cold on the wrong night. And then the other team would be able to just kind of make most of it. West Virginia is in the topic of discussion right now. Coach Devries, can you tell me about him? And is Indiana one of those jobs? We live here in Indiana. We understand how the people feel about Hoosiers and the basketball and basketball as a whole. Is that one of those jobs where Devries, like coaches dream of, get it.
- [102:03]
Seth Greenberg
He'S got to take it.
- [102:04]
Pat McAfee
Okay. That's how you feel.
- [102:05]
Seth Greenberg
If he gets it, he's got to get the Iowa thing. I'm not so sure because it's almost a rebuild. But Indiana, you've got a built in base of recruiting opportunity. I'm sure the money would be great.
- [102:16]
Pat McAfee
But.
- [102:16]
Seth Greenberg
But let me tell you this along with that. And you guys know, because you guys are right there, the static around the program is ridiculous.
- [102:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [102:24]
Seth Greenberg
And like you don't answer to just alumni, you answer to the whole state. So you got it. You're giving yourself over to the state. I mean, that's basically what you're doing. And there's, you know, because people in Indiana, they all think that they invented the game and they understand basketball. Everyone is coaching your team along with you, you and like, does he want to deal with that? But the opportunity to get better quicker with the look they had big time nil, but they just swung and missed. You know, you got like, you go to the end, you better get winning. Dudes like, you got to get winning. Like this whole thing about collecting talent, you got a roster construction and putting together a team is as important as the number of like great players. Because the players don't fit. It is what it is. But yeah.
- [103:11]
Pat McAfee
Coach, Coach, they want to see this right here. That's what they want to see. That's what they want to see. That is what. That is what they want. That is legitimately what they want and need to be able to make big shots. But we're moving the ball. We are and we are.
- [103:24]
Seth Greenberg
Yeah. And next time around, motion offense, we.
- [103:26]
Pat McAfee
Are right back into this thing. And it's like, that is how the Indiana folks you're talking about, everybody in Indiana thinks that you're. They think they invented basketball. They know basketball. That's because they pay attention. And it's like, this is how we play. Basketball here. And you talked about collecting talent and building a roster that, that is not just in basketball, that's in football as well. How important is a culture, man? It feels like we really get to see culture here during this March madness as well.
- [103:49]
AJ Hawk
Right.
- [103:50]
Pat McAfee
Because adversity's coming and then how can he continue to go? How important is that culture in basketball? Because I outside looking in, have never been in a basketball locker room room or a basketball team setting, it seems like to me, it's like we just got to keep the two guys happy and then everything else is good. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
- [104:08]
Seth Greenberg
I tell you, you've been in a lot. All you guys have been in locker rooms.
- [104:11]
Pat McAfee
Of course.
- [104:12]
Seth Greenberg
Let me ask you a question. You're only as good as your locker, yes or no?
- [104:14]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [104:16]
Seth Greenberg
You got a crappy locker room, you got no shot.
- [104:18]
Pat McAfee
Agreed.
- [104:19]
Seth Greenberg
Right. So like, you're only as good as your locker room. So culture. And that's why Florida, what they've done is they've gone into portal and got multi year portal guys. So it's not a six month rental. So now they, they develop an identity, they develop a culture, they have an investment. But yeah, I mean, like, you're only as good as your locker room. You have a bad locker room. Like that Tennessee team, they got a great locker room because there's a Kai Ziegler made shock. And they coach their locker room. If you don't have a dude coach in your locker room, it's like the meeting after the meeting. Let me ask you this, Pat. You know, you, you give speeches, I'm sure, places, and then you do your thing.
- [104:49]
Pat McAfee
Absolutely.
- [104:49]
Seth Greenberg
And then, you know, everyone gets up, claps, wonderful. They go to the bathroom and they either say like that Pat Maxby, he's full of crap, or they say like, damn, holy mackerel, that was awesome. You know that? And here's the deal. That's no different than you speak to your team at the end of practice and you say like X, Y and Z. And those dudes go back in the locker room and they say, or maybe you gave him a heart, a real hard practice and you, you were like up their ass really, really hard and challenging and pushing them.
- [105:13]
Pat McAfee
And like, you know, you get the.
- [105:15]
Seth Greenberg
Wrong guy walking back in the locker room. Coach, man, he's full of it, man. What's he talking about? We're practicing too hard? I mean, what does he expect from us? And then. Exactly. It blows up. So, like, you gotta have locker room, man. I mean, like, it's not just One, you gotta have a voice in the locker room that. One of those guys goes sideways. He snatches that guy, like one of your guys. Sam Clancy played for me at Pitt.
- [105:34]
Pat McAfee
Of course.
- [105:35]
Seth Greenberg
Absolutely. Love Sam Clancy. First year of Pitt. We have a good team. A little disjointed, and we lost a couple games and we had a couple guys. I literally said, sam, like, that's you, man. Like, you're the biggest, baddest dude.
- [105:50]
Pat McAfee
That's you.
- [105:51]
Seth Greenberg
True story. Next day, I'm walking in chains for practice. 100%. Sam's got. I'm not gonna mention the kid's name. He's got some dude up against the wall, like he's on a hangar. And he go. And he was saying, like, this is my last time, man. I want to play in the NCAA Tournament. Get your crap right.
- [106:08]
Pat McAfee
That's awesome.
- [106:09]
Seth Greenberg
And I'll tell you, we were pretty good after that.
- [106:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I can imagine. Sam Clancy was a Yinzer. It sounds like, what a dog. I love that. And what you're saying, what you're saying about talking to players in policing their locker room, we do a lot of that on this particular show. And it's pissed off some people in some locker rooms because there's some traits that maybe happen for some teams. It's like, hey, you can draft good players, you can coach good players, but the players got. They got to control what the expectations are. And the standard is. I love to hear that. That. That's also in basketball. Hey, you're the man again, thank you for joining us today. And we can't wait to talk. Thanks, guys.
- [106:42]
Seth Greenberg
Appreciate you, guys.
- [106:43]
Pat McAfee
You got it, man.
- [106:44]
Seth Greenberg
Enjoy the games.
- [106:45]
Pat McAfee
We will. Hey, who's winning tonight? Who's winning tonight? Alabama State. And I'll tell you, here's the deal.
- [106:52]
Seth Greenberg
As crazy it is, I'm going to give you. I'll give you two seconds. Carolina's going to win this game. They can miss. Because you know what? Here's the deal. They shouldn't have been in.
- [106:58]
Pat McAfee
All right?
- [106:59]
Seth Greenberg
That's just my opinion. 1 in 12 is not good enough. But yet when the tournament starts, they are good enough to win this game against San Diego State, who struggles scoring but is great defensively. And because Ole Miss doesn't have a legitimate thing, they're going to have a shot at Ole Miss, who I really like, because they don't turn it over. And Chris Beard is an absolutely great dude, but to me, they don't have a bad draw to win a couple of games.
- [107:22]
Pat McAfee
He's a dog. He's a Great coach. We appreciate the hell out of you. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Seth Greenberg. I think he was, he was treated unfairly in that whole thing. Yeah. Oh, well, there was no response to that whole thing.
- [107:37]
AJ Hawk
He.
- [107:38]
Pat McAfee
Did you hear him give a, give a response to somebody that said some pundit or somebody said that his team was fraudulent?
- [107:44]
Boston Connor
I did see that.
- [107:45]
Pat McAfee
And he, he, next person asked a question, he goes, that's a good question. Let me get back to this real quick. He rattles off. I'm like, that was epic. I got a chance to watch Chris be weird work, you know, down there in Texas. His boys ride for him, man. I mean that is just his assistant coaches, his players, they ride for him. And he, he really much like, that's his style too. Like, hey, let's go do this. He's got a lot of moxie. He goes, Ole Miss. All of a sudden, now they're back in the conversation. It's like that was kind of how it was going to go, I think, no matter where happened. And how it ended at Texas was very loud at one half and then nothing ever exactly on the other side and then, you know, kind of up. But that's the world that we live in.
- [108:28]
AJ Hawk
Right.
- [108:28]
Pat McAfee
And then now he's got the guys rolling in this time. Yeah.
- [108:31]
Boston Connor
And I mean Texas, you would assume still has some beard in it because they're, you know, in the tournament again, I believe. Or they're in a playing game. One or the other too.
- [108:38]
Pat McAfee
But are they top five whenever he was there?
- [108:40]
Boston Connor
Yeah, they're very good. Somebody's tell Seth. What coincidence or.
- [108:44]
Pat McAfee
Sorry, conspiracy.
- [108:45]
Boston Connor
Yeah, but what coincidence means. Because I think a lot of his conspiracies are coincidences.
- [108:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Cuz I thought he was saying conspiracy because he talks like he likes those teams and like ESPN's deciding thing. So I think he. I thought he was talking about that. Then he could sit like. Continued to say it. Yeah, like a considerable.
- [109:04]
Darius Butler
This guy played for this team last year. That's a conspiracy.
- [109:07]
Boston Connor
No, no, no, Seth, that's a coincidence.
- [109:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but I was he meaning, like they took all the information over here.
- [109:13]
Evan Fox
Yeah. Or I thought he means like, hey, know the, the, the TV people want these people. They, they know these are good matchups, so they're gonna try to do whatever they can to get these matchups. So it's better.
- [109:23]
Pat McAfee
So he goes, conspiracy. This guy played here and that's what.
- [109:27]
Evan Fox
I took it at.
- [109:27]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Hey, thank you for that.
- [109:29]
Boston Connor
That makes more sense.
- [109:29]
Pat McAfee
Thank you for that.
- [109:30]
Darius Butler
Oh, that's why the Calipari and Patino.
- [109:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because while we were here, while we were here and he was on the full screen, we were all going, I. What the. Does he know?
- [109:40]
Darius Butler
TV conspiracy.
- [109:42]
Pat McAfee
It is radio. Because he hears it just like the college basketball pundits and media people hear it just as much, I assume, as the college football people do. Like Kirk Herbstreak there was the one deciding who was playing where, remember? And he was getting murdered for the entire. I assume Seth gets a lot of heat because he's part of that college game day show. Okay. Yeah. It is a lot of conspiracies. Now that I think about it. College basketball might have more of them than college football.
- [110:06]
Darius Butler
Yeah.
- [110:07]
Pat McAfee
Hey, Governor Morrissey, look into that, too.
- [110:09]
AJ Hawk
He will. He already is.
- [110:11]
Pat McAfee
He's getting to the bottom of that part of it. You know, that is something that we need to take place. Okay, A.J. you need to give us an update because there's a new update. It's a new day on Aaron Rodgers. He's basically waiting out the Minnesota Vikings. Tell them what they want to do. They're trying to figure out what they want to do. That's the newest report from Scoopage Scoop City with Diane Rossini and Chase Daniels, obviously Diane Rossini and inside with the Athletic. So this is another day. This is another piece of information. You know, a week ago it was, he's either going to the Giants or the Steelers and he's holding them hostage. Now it's like, well, the Vikings now in the game. But at one point it was, the Vikings aren't in the game now they're the game. So it feels like a lot of Hail Mary's. Yeah, a lot of whoa. Maybe that's the case. But that also could be because a lot of people, people are getting a lot of different information and a lot of people could have the information. Now, speaking of having information, you're probably the only one that's got it. What's happening and what should we look into at this point with Aaron Rodgers?
- [111:12]
Evan Fox
Well, I mean, so first off, I have, I've not reached out. I figure he'll. He'll reach out if he wants to talk about this whole situation with me. But I go back to what I said yesterday. Like, what could he possibly be doing? Obviously, he's got multiple teams that want him to come in. There's, there's spots open. But I just don't, don't know with the whole Viking situation if that's truly a thing. Wouldn't they say something if it was not a thing? They'd come out and say JJ is our guy. That's all I could think.
- [111:35]
Pat McAfee
They could also say, we're not your puppet. We're not answering every single. I mean there's just, yeah, we have.
- [111:40]
Evan Fox
I don't think they want to show faith in their guy that they could stand up and say, hey, no, JJ's our guy. We're not going after.
- [111:45]
Pat McAfee
I like AJ saying yeah, it's on the Vikings. That's what we like. Cam Haywood said, you either play for the Steelers or you don't play. It's getting loud, but that's football baby. Ever had your deposit blocked by your bank right before a big bet? Ever needed cash at 2am for another shot at the tables but hit your ATM limit? Edge boost has your back. Edge Boost is the first ever bank account built for betters. With Edge Boost, all your gambling related transactions will always be approved. No more headaches for you high rollers. You can move up to $250,000 a day on your Edge Boost Visa debit card with unlim withdrawals. This works 247 for instant deposits. Never wait for a wire to clear again. It gets better Every time you deposit into a qualified gambling account, you earn cash back rewards up to 0.5%. All this for no usage fees and no minimum balance. This is a bank account, not a credit card, so there is no approval required or credit checks. Finally, Edge Boost has a suite of responsible gambling tools to help you manage your bankroll and make informed decisions. What are you waiting for? Go to edgeboost Bet. That's edgeboost Bet. If you want tools that stand the test of time without testing your wallet, Harbor Freight is the place for you. Expert engineers design and rigorously test Harbor Freight tools to bring you top quality. Whether your next project is big or small, Harbor Freight carries a wide selection from hand tools to power tools to automotive tools and welding equipment. And with prices lower than other top brands but with the same top quality, you're getting more for your money at Harbor Freight. There are over 1,500 Harbor Freight stores in the U S so come see for yourself. Whatever you do, do it for less at Harbor Freight. Almost happened in in the bathroom. AJ Hawk is here obviously. Shout out to the Ohio State legend talking about Ohio State in a matter of moments, 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys AP tone is here. Good to see you.
- [113:54]
Darius Butler
Good to see you.
- [113:55]
Pat McAfee
I like the the hat. Hoodie matching, you know.
- [113:58]
Darius Butler
Yeah, I don't always. I kind of like to, you know, clash, but I've really just been rocking the tan lately so, no, really know.
- [114:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you look great. Nice trip to the woods this past weekend. We'll have you buzzing and glowing. Some would say the toxic tables here at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Connor. Ty, a little bit of a buzzer beater there for our friend Boston Connor.
- [114:16]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Anytime Connor has to squeeze out a poop in one of the breaks, usually it's not a, you know, a quick, quick shot. Hey, let's get off this thing. He dropped an absolute nuke in there, and I was thinking he might be gone for 10, 15 minutes.
- [114:27]
Pat McAfee
He was sprinting. As the countdown was happening, he was sprinting across this basketball court and sat down literally at the exact time that the camera came on. That was wonderful timing by you, your bladder and your butt. I think you should be pretty proud of yourself.
- [114:40]
Boston Connor
Sometimes things just line up for me, you know, and it seems as though during that break it did. And, you know, I. I was worried deep down maybe, maybe I was going to come back to you guys talking up here and I was going to have to take that walk of shame. But, you know, some things just work out.
- [114:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, especially when you dress that good. Aj, do you see this fit on this man? This is the best outfit he's ever worn. Yeah.
- [115:00]
Evan Fox
Can we see the pants? So that's. Is that a matching jumpsuit you're wearing?
- [115:03]
Boston Connor
No, no, no. This is a sweatshirt from certain companies. These shoes don't really fit, but they're free, so I. So I wear them.
- [115:10]
Pat McAfee
He wears a half size too small shoe. Yeah, yeah. Every day.
- [115:15]
Boston Connor
Stay light on my feet. It's helped my pingpong game, actually.
- [115:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Ping pong is a good battle every day. You and Foxy have been certainly jousting over there. But he dressed good today, and I think that's why the gods, you know, kind of blessed you with a moment there to make it back in time. Was hoping very, very much so for a walk of shit.
- [115:32]
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah, I. I was ready for it. As I was exiting the bathroom, I was like, okay, let's just see, you know, where we're at. Because I didn't hear anybody talking out here. I figured we were somewhere close to the show, to the program.
- [115:43]
Pat McAfee
There's a nice little social gathering that happens during the breaks out.
- [115:45]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah, that's awesome.
- [115:46]
Pat McAfee
Quick sprint to the bathroom, then a nice conversation about everything going on. Did he say a little bit of that? Hey, I just checked my phone. Did you know that? He said I must have missed that. You know, some people slip some stuff by US Fund that talking about a lot of college basketball, have no idea if it was good coverage of college basketball or bad coverage of college basketball. But I do know we covered college basketball, and I feel like we're doing what we're supposed to do in the sports world, in the sports media world at this exact time. Because, to be clear, when I go home, obviously, hang out with baby girl, hang out with the wife when baby girl goes to bed and we're, you know, in front of a tv, I'm trying to find as much information as I can about this March madness. That is all I'm trying to do do. So literally at night, I'm thinking to myself, there needs to be more. Like, this is going to take over our entire lives here, without a doubt, every single year. It takes over everything. I mean, it's only thing that's on television, only thing that's being talked about, only headlines and everybody's paying attention to it. I mean. I mean, this is just what it is. In some years, we go in and I feel like I'm unprepared. You know, I feel like I have no clue what is happening. It's all. So this year, I thought that we should at least do a little bit of research, shout out to everybody that's come by and made us smarter. Bettino Izzo, Seth Greenberg. Yeah. I mean, he has been phenomenal in this entire thing.
- [117:01]
Boston Connor
Yeah, he's incredible, Especially when you look at his resume. You know, I feel like sometimes we have people on that maybe are younger in the. In the entire thing. Like, he's been. He coached for 60 years. Like, if anybody knows anything about college basketball, it's him.
- [117:14]
Pat McAfee
And he was excited to come on the show. Very rare. Yeah, very rare. And. Which is, you know, that's a cool thing.
- [117:23]
Evan Fox
He loves ball. Seth Greenberg loves ball. And that comes. That comes across when you talk to that guy, like, he absolutely loves it.
- [117:29]
Pat McAfee
And that's all we, you know, it's all that matters.
- [117:31]
Evan Fox
Right.
- [117:32]
Pat McAfee
All we need is you tell us the we need to look at. That's right. We respect your brain. We like how much you love ball. There's some people that obviously think you're wrong sometimes you're on tv. But for us, what you're saying right now. Gospel. Shout out. Florida 1E C. As soon as he told me it was going to happen, he literally was like, florida, they're going to do this entire thing. The SEC best conference by far gave us that information a week beforehand. 14 SEC teams and the thing break the record. It's like, hey, this guy knows byu. This team could have a chance to go on an entire run in this. It's like everything he has kind of said to us has to. I can't remember all the names as you. There's a Haggerty somewhere.
- [118:05]
Boston Connor
Who is Memphis, I believe Memphis.
- [118:09]
Pat McAfee
P.J. haggerty of Memphis. I can't wait to watch him.
- [118:11]
Darius Butler
He keeps Florida comparing to Kyrie.
- [118:13]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. Fears outside. Yeah.
- [118:16]
AJ Hawk
Fears at Oklahoma.
- [118:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because he. He can move now, you know, he can move on a string. Yeah. And Yukon, you know, they got a little bit of trouble there because they can't defend the perimeter. I believe is the conversation. Yeah.
- [118:27]
Evan Fox
So we will take it as like Noah's Ark.
- [118:30]
Pat McAfee
Right.
- [118:30]
Evan Fox
Florida is like Noah's Ark.
- [118:31]
Boston Connor
They got two of everyone, do everything.
- [118:33]
Pat McAfee
So whenever you see two guys down there. Yeah, they got them. You're not seeing things with your eyes. They got two. Two of everything. And then Michigan, this team, they got this wolf cat. Yeah, yeah. He'll take it off the glass. He'll go outside, lottery pick. Yeah. I mean, a tough draw, this Auburn team.
- [118:52]
Boston Connor
And then they got this guy. Conspiracy, former. What was it?
- [118:56]
Pat McAfee
We're talking about?
- [118:57]
Boston Connor
Former Florida, Former Auburn guard.
- [118:59]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. You're not talking about Clayton down there. Florida is formerly Iona. Conspiracy conspiracies. I mean, they're all over the place. Italians taking each other on.
- [119:09]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [119:09]
Darius Butler
I just learned. We listened pretty well.
- [119:11]
Pat McAfee
I think so. I think we. I think that is the difference between our particular program. We are in the moment. You know, we don't have teleprompter questions that are right in front of it, depending on who's.
- [119:21]
Boston Connor
And what we're talking about.
- [119:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I mean, there is a little bit of distraction that potentially happens. There has been basketball shots shot on this particular hoop. Whenever somebody takes up the full screen. Sure.
- [119:31]
Boston Connor
Sometimes it's like, hey, we got nothing to talk about. Why don't you come in here, we're going to ask you six, seven questions.
- [119:36]
Pat McAfee
And we're going to let you run for two weeks.
- [119:38]
Seth Greenberg
Yep.
- [119:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, there's some talkers that come on here. One time you were breaking news during someone's interview. I forget who was on, but you were actually walking on the gym court trying to find some breaking news for us. Yeah. That's pretty. I mean, there's some magic that takes place behind the scenes here, but there's a lot of doofuses going. All right, I'm bored with this guy. Or the fans, I assume they are, but we got to show some respect. We can't just kick Them off. Off like this guy in five, ten minutes. Good person. Bad day. Bad day. So let's at least entertain ourselves around here. But shout out to Seth. We've enjoyed his comments.
- [120:03]
Boston Connor
Hell yeah.
- [120:04]
Pat McAfee
Seth Faso booked less need.
- [120:07]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
- [120:08]
Pat McAfee
Hell yeah.
- [120:08]
Boston Connor
Nice.
- [120:08]
Pat McAfee
How about that?
- [120:09]
Evan Fox
He was good. He was really good.
- [120:10]
Pat McAfee
Faso did the connect there fossil. Yeah, it was good. He knew somebody did something. Sent a thing. Now we gotta. It's like thank you. And the way he speaks. Awesome. I mean that was the parameters of an agreement. Like that whole his angle in which he approaches thing. Heavy lifter in high school he said. Yeah, makes sense with that Champion. Yeah. Kind of approaches some things.
- [120:33]
Evan Fox
You don't like the safety bar, man. I know that you do you have one at. No, I don't but I, I, that does kind of take some, take some strain off your knees and your back if you use that when you hold on to the front like it does there's, there's a use to it. But no, I, I love putting the bar on my back. Okay. You gotta, you gotta load your spine.
- [120:51]
Pat McAfee
I like that you're still squatting.
- [120:53]
Evan Fox
Yeah, have to. Everybody's scared of losing your cakes. You know that?
- [120:57]
Boston Connor
Not everybody.
- [120:58]
Pat McAfee
You're the greatest. We've seen the Ozempic just take everybody's cheeks. I think just lift.
- [121:03]
Evan Fox
If the people get to take it. Just lift weights on it like you can. You're allowed to lift if you take that stuff.
- [121:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [121:08]
Darius Butler
Here's the thing.
- [121:09]
Pat McAfee
Go ahead.
- [121:11]
Darius Butler
People. People who are taking Ozem Big, not real big lifters.
- [121:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Taking ozempic 2 not have to really change much but lose weight. Yeah.
- [121:20]
AJ Hawk
That's kind of why it's the cheat code.
- [121:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That is what it's semaglutide. Well this thing just kind of. You do whatever you want.
- [121:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [121:26]
Pat McAfee
And you're just going to lose weight. You're not going to want to eat as much. You might not feel as good all the time, but yeah, you're going to lose weight quick. Talking about 20 of your body weight. You want to, you want to knock off 20% of your body weight. How's that sound? How's a brand new lifelong. But it does make you look your butt cheeks and everything else. You know, you kind of start looking. You can. Not everybody but it seems like one of the side effects of the Ozempic that is not being chatted about is you kind of look like your body just kind of, you know, starts kind of with it because I think it attacks your muscles too. I think is like the. So you Gotta heard that. You gotta keep working out. You gotta keep working out. I agree. But I'm happy they figured that out for people. And, yeah, legitimizer, legit. I'm happy that happened because there was people that were just wasting away because they got too heavy and then, yeah, their discipline may be not as great, but they also. Maybe they get to a point where they want to change it. It's like you're staring down five years of commitment here, and it's, like, too scary, Too daunting of a task almost. So the fact that medicine was able to figure out something to get people back into being potentially active and living their life again, that's good. But you lose your cheeks, though, you're going to lose your cheeks. Gonna happen. I don't think you should be putting a metal bar on your spine like AJ's doing. Get that safety wreck. I'm definitely gonna.
- [122:41]
Evan Fox
I realized I put the bar low when I got to the Packers. I realized, like, I. When I do squats, I put the bar pretty low on my back. Like, not right on the top of your neck. And I guess that's an Ohio thing. My strength coach, like, oh, yeah. It's like, for some reason, kids from Ohio do that.
- [122:54]
Pat McAfee
And Is that because you don't want it to be right on the bone at the top? Yeah, I think I was a lower guy, too. Too. Yeah.
- [122:59]
Evan Fox
Because some people do put it right, like a right in your spine. That bone. I'm like, I can. Mine's like, well down. Much farther down than other guys.
- [123:06]
Pat McAfee
I never lifted in high school. And then I get to college with Mike Barwis. Okay. And we're lifting. Okay. We were lifting. We were lifting very hard, very rapidly. We're moving a lot of weight, and it was awesome. Like, it was a. A fun time, but, like, squatting for the first time. Like, actually, I was in so much pain in front of everybody, Coach. Couldn't. Couldn't, though. You know, Couldn't. My leg's very strong upper body, not that strong. Spine bone. Not calloused enough to just have a metal bar just sitting on top of it. So I had to grit and bear through that. That was like a tough six, seven months of just that thing sitting on there every single time. So I moved that down lower, too. I started doing lower. But then your arms, much more important to the entire process. I mean, the arms. Hey, we're working together with this thing now, because if that. That slides move, you look like the biggest. Yeah, you're a fool of all time. There's a happy, happy medium.
- [123:56]
Evan Fox
That's how you. It makes it easier to dump the heavyweights. Back in the day, when you're doing one rep max, you dump it and you run out from. You run out in front and it drops onto the safety rack.
- [124:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. We never dumping. We were never dumping racks, though. We were never doing that. Hey, do you still max squat? No way. You. No.
- [124:10]
Evan Fox
No chance. No. I would die.
- [124:12]
Pat McAfee
What are you doing? Like 225 for a bunch or.
- [124:15]
Evan Fox
I mean, depending on how I feel at the moment, but 275 for, you know, a good amount of reps, then go up 315. Go. Go heavy if I need to, like, you know, high threes.
- [124:24]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. You. You talked to Tim Tebow. Remember that?
- [124:27]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
- [124:27]
Evan Fox
How much is so jacked. So jack Timmy.
- [124:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [124:31]
Boston Connor
We're not lifting for reps.
- [124:35]
Evan Fox
You're right.
- [124:35]
Pat McAfee
As we said, protein.
- [124:36]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Verbatim.
- [124:37]
Pat McAfee
In. In iron is all Tim Tebow's on. He is so jacked.
- [124:41]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [124:42]
Pat McAfee
Is he trying to get into one of those shows Things. Good.
- [124:44]
Boston Connor
Oh, baseball should.
- [124:46]
Pat McAfee
He was in the show for a bit. Remember when he was just hitting dingers in those minor league fields?
- [124:51]
Evan Fox
Yeah.
- [124:51]
Boston Connor
Robbing home runs.
- [124:52]
Darius Butler
He had like 67.
- [124:53]
AJ Hawk
That was kind of his. That was kind of his downfall.
- [124:56]
Boston Connor
He robbed too many home runs.
- [124:57]
AJ Hawk
No, he was, you know, taking headers on fly balls.
- [125:00]
Darius Butler
No.
- [125:00]
AJ Hawk
You know, cans of corn that you can't.
- [125:02]
Pat McAfee
I hadn't played in 15 years.
- [125:03]
AJ Hawk
No, I know.
- [125:03]
Pat McAfee
I was trying to get back into the sport. He was under immense spotlight.
- [125:07]
AJ Hawk
You know what he should do is he should play like the competitive softball because he'd hit at 10,000ft, brother.
- [125:13]
Pat McAfee
I did the Oklahoma softball thing. Yeah. Oh, you're talking about slow pitch or fast pitch.
- [125:17]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, slow pitch, low pitch like that. The old dudes are playing. Hitting it. Hey, 7,000 miles an hour on a line killing people.
- [125:25]
Pat McAfee
Stu Ronick pitching for the Big Dogs Bar in Plum Burrow. Sure. Okay. He can throw a knuckler. Yeah, I bet he can throw a. That ain't. Don't think that ball is just coming up and coming down.
- [125:34]
Boston Connor
Not from Stu.
- [125:35]
Pat McAfee
I think you. We got. Got a little shake on that thing. A little bit of bake on that thing. I did the fast pitch thing with those Oklahoma ladies.
- [125:41]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah. That's a chance.
- [125:43]
Evan Fox
That's impossible.
- [125:44]
AJ Hawk
No chance.
- [125:45]
Pat McAfee
What? Dude, that thing started at my shins and then was at my face before it. They call it the riser. And they say the only way you can beat is you don't swing because it's not going to be a strike. But boy, the entire time that thing looks like it's coming right in there and then boom. Right off your face pretty much. And this lady, I don't remember her name. I think she transferred in from North Carolina. I think. I'm not. They were a great team. A lot of moxie on that team.
- [126:11]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [126:11]
Pat McAfee
A lot of mox champions.
- [126:13]
AJ Hawk
A lot of games.
- [126:13]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I mean. Yeah, Patty, absolutely.
- [126:15]
Boston Connor
I guess so.
- [126:16]
Pat McAfee
But they were throwing that and watching it just gets there so quick, you know, cuz it's so 45ft or whatever.
- [126:22]
Boston Connor
Feet.
- [126:23]
Evan Fox
48. Right? 45, yeah.
- [126:24]
Pat McAfee
It's shorter obviously. Very short. But like the motion too is almost like mes. Because you're like baits you. You're like watching the motion, you know. So if you've never seen anything. And I was lucky because like punt snaps, they kind of throw from under here and they have to find the laces. So like I was kind of a little comfortable with. But the first couple times I sat in there I'm like, I don't know how anybody hits this thing ever. And I finally make contact. But it was. It was absolute. Those fast. Those are hard. Those are a. How do MLB guys do against it? Great, I assume. Or they do because the ball is bigger. So.
- [126:56]
AJ Hawk
And I would assume so because those guys, even though it is closer, like you're re. I mean they're. They're facing guys like you know, sk. Who are throwing like 102. Like your reaction time still has to be pretty good.
- [127:06]
Pat McAfee
College guys though, college dudes struggling with fast pitch.
- [127:10]
AJ Hawk
Like the. The elite guys. Probably not, but I. I bet a lot of dudes would because it is. You're just not used. 45, 48. Like that is. Your reaction time has to be so quick.
- [127:20]
Pat McAfee
The ball movement was insane though. That thing was like. And I think because it's bigger, more surface area can actually potentially a little bit more.
- [127:28]
AJ Hawk
Right.
- [127:29]
Pat McAfee
A little bit more movement on that thing, you know. But it looks very good until about right here and then it's.
- [127:35]
AJ Hawk
And if you do square one of those up, like you're hitting homer because the. The fields are you know, 200ft around. So it's like if you make good contact, you're. You're giving it a ride.
- [127:43]
Pat McAfee
It's a great sport. I enjoyed it. It was electric. And they pack out a stuff stadium out there.
- [127:47]
AJ Hawk
Oh yeah.
- [127:48]
Pat McAfee
So I assume the environment is one and that's. That's always something that happens, you know. Omaha takes place. Then the softball One happens, and we watch it for like two weeks or a week or whatever. I'm like, that's electrifying. And then we move on, you know, and then I step in a batter's box and I watch this. I'm like, geez Louise, Oklahoma's gonna win again. I think from what I saw, they are reloaded.
- [128:07]
Boston Connor
Got it.
- [128:08]
Pat McAfee
They got. And Patty Gas will fight you.
- [128:11]
Boston Connor
Yeah, she's a dog.
- [128:12]
Pat McAfee
Baseball started today. The MLB started its actual season today, A.J. i don't know if you know that, Ty. What the hell happened in Japan?
- [128:19]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, the Tokyo Series. So the Dodgers and the Cubs played obviously SH And Yoshinobu Yamamoto, but they also signed Roki Sasaki. So, like, basically all the best players in Japan play for the Dodgers right now, so it kind of makes sense. Hey, we'll go over a little bit early and kind of start the season this way. It's a big deal. Be able to give back to the people in Japan is the first time ever that two Japanese. These pitchers started an opening day for the mlb because obviously he changed his name because he just wants to go by Mike. We had him on the show. Imanaga, for the Cubs, was the starting pitcher. So it is kind of weird because they.
- [128:57]
Darius Butler
They start just Mike Imanaga.
- [129:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [129:02]
Darius Butler
Like G. Carlos.
- [129:04]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. You don't remember that. He basically, he's like, I just want to be one of the guys in the clubhouse. Okay. I don't want it to be so on my nameplate. Just call me Mike. I don't need people messing up my name or anything like.
- [129:15]
Pat McAfee
That is a great name.
- [129:18]
AJ Hawk
Exactly.
- [129:18]
Pat McAfee
Mike.
- [129:18]
AJ Hawk
Also good name, but he was just like, you know what? I kind of like Mike. So just.
- [129:23]
Pat McAfee
So Mike Ibinaga.
- [129:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [129:26]
Pat McAfee
Took on Yamamoto. Correct.
- [129:27]
Boston Connor
Did he change his name or.
- [129:29]
AJ Hawk
No, no, he is Yoshino Yamamoto.
- [129:31]
Pat McAfee
Shohei. Still Shohei Shahi.
- [129:33]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, he. He. You know, if you're a cat casual, you know, watcher of baseball. The thing that, I mean, obviously everyone knows about Shohei, but he is so fun to watch because he tries. He tries to hit a home. He swings so violently every single time, no matter what. I mean, you know, it's just a, you know, run of the mill single, but boy, did he hit the 500 miles an hour. He hits it so hard. He had a double. Later, Imanaga actually threw four innings of no hit ball. And for whatever reason, the Cubs decided to take him out after 69 pitches. They said, hey, 70 pitches is going to be kind of your mark. We're gonna. You're Gonna be done after that, of course, they go to the bullpen, and then, boom, the Dodgers put up four runs. Almost immediately, they lose the game. So it's kind of one of those classic Cubs. Yeah, classic Cubbies. And that's what a lot of people were saying, like, you know, awesome that the Cubs could give us our first bonehead decision of the MLB season. So early in Japan. This guy's there in front of his. You know, he's back home, a lot of fans there. He's pitching. Unbelievable. He had four walks, so his pitch count was getting up a little bit, but they hadn't got a hit off him, you know, and then they decide to yank him. And obviously the Dodgers, right, as they yank him, boom, they just fucking attack the. The bullpen pitcher, the relief pitcher, and put up four runs, almost instantly win the game. We got another game tomorrow. Who? Roki Sasaki. The other big, like, think, you know, kind of the. The next. I won't say the next Shohei, but in terms of, like, pitching prospects, like, he was a guy who every MLB team wanted. He's gonna pitch for the Dodgers tomorrow.
- [131:05]
Pat McAfee
So Central America, big for baseball, right?
- [131:07]
AJ Hawk
Yes.
- [131:08]
Pat McAfee
South America, same deal as well. And Japan has had a deep history, right, in the sport of baseball, and they love it.
- [131:15]
AJ Hawk
They look 40, 000 people were at the Tokyo Dome. They said the cheapest ticket. And like, the nosebleeds up there, I think, was like, anywhere from like 3,000 to 5,000 bucks. So they said, like, it's, you know, it's like, impossible to get into the stadium. But yeah, the fans over there are rabid. They love it.
- [131:29]
Pat McAfee
What was the number, the global audience for Shohei's first playoff? Obviously they win.
- [131:34]
AJ Hawk
It was, yeah, insane.
- [131:36]
Pat McAfee
Fox reported some absurd. Do you remember that, AJ Whenever it was like, the total audience, global audience that was watching because they started selling ads. Ads for Japanese companies. Yeah, 30 million. Yeah, 30 million people watched a baseball game or whatever, and they're like 10. Maybe in America, maybe eight in America. And then like 20 plus in Japan. And the times difference was so insane. It's like Shohei obviously is. I mean, he's spectacular. It is, yeah. Phenomenal to watch this dude, especially the way he goes about it. Like, just like this calm confidence and obsession with baseball. If you listen to what everybody's saying and remember he was a victim. Like, a very, very, very huge amount of money was stolen from him by the guy who was. His mouth and ears and is supposed to be his tag team partner and like, his best friend. I Would assume in this entire thing, robbed him to start his entire career. Almost tanked his entire legacy before it even started. And all he has done is just remain committed to ball and trying to become his absolute best. He goes to the Dodgers, they have great success his first year there. Win it. And yeah, he's one of the boys now, it feels like. And baseball, I assume everybody is very thankful in baseball that show he's playing. But I am as well because I'm intrigued to watch this guy do his thing. Is he ever going to get back to pitching?
- [132:56]
AJ Hawk
He's going to pitch this year.
- [132:58]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [132:59]
AJ Hawk
Which, yes, you know, if you're a Dodgers fan, obviously it's awesome. But because of how special he is at the plate, I do just kind of worry about that because that would be like the one way to kind of to shorten his career. Like if he has any arm issues or anything like that. I mean, he did still hit last year, but like, if he would need. If he would need Tommy John because of it or something, like, he's just so special at the play. He's the first guy ever last year to hit 50 homers, steal 50 bases. Like if he wants to, he could hit 60 homers and steal 60 bases. Like, he's just, he's a unicorn. So it's one of those things where their pitching staff is already so good. They got Blake Snell, who was arguably one of like the top, top free agent pitchers. They have Tyler Glass now, who. Former Pirate. Like, he is also a stud. He got hurt last year and didn't play. Like, they are so deep pitching wise that they almost don't need.
- [133:44]
Pat McAfee
So could they, like put them on an alternate rotation? Like, hey, every two rotations you're gonna get a game or something. Is that ever. Would that happen?
- [133:50]
AJ Hawk
They probably could do that. But I think, I mean, and he is different, so maybe it would be different. But I feel like those guys, like, those guys are such creatures of habit that it'd be weird. And now maybe if it was set, like, hey, you're gonna pitch every, every 10 days as, as opposed to every five days, then it might work out. But for the most part, those guys, like, they just, you know, like, we've never seen that. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
- [134:11]
Pat McAfee
This guy's awesome.
- [134:12]
AJ Hawk
Yes.
- [134:13]
Pat McAfee
I love him. I love Shohei. That's why I was so, you know, bummed out that he was taking advantage of, you know, and I think a lot of people didn't think it was possible for him to be taken advantage of. And then the more that's coming out. It's like, yeah, this guy in jail. Yes, yeah, yes, he better therapy. And there's a lot of, like, evidence coming out now about the phone calls and the way he was working and who he was tricking and how it was all happening is like, yeah, he. He. He over Shohei Ohtani big time. Massive, massive way. And he never. Right. This guy never flinched.
- [134:44]
AJ Hawk
No, I mean, you. Yeah, like you said, like, he. He had arguably the best offensive season ever for a player. And every time, like, they would show him to, like, his. His demeanor, like, he was always laughing in the dugout, always smiling, always having fun. Like, whereas, you know, a lot of guys, especially you're in a different country, like, that could really with you. And if, you know, if he ever needed an excuse to be like, hey, this is why I didn't have a very good season last year.
- [135:07]
Pat McAfee
There's a lot of them there.
- [135:08]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, exactly. And what do they do? Like, he wins a world series and has, you know, a season that people will be talking about 50 years from now.
- [135:14]
Pat McAfee
So you got sh. Then you got Skin, obviously.
- [135:16]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [135:16]
Pat McAfee
You know, and skin was named the opening day starter in a video that was released by the Pittsburgh Pirates. And you got a lot of people going like, yeah, the sky is sometimes blue and everything like that. But remember last year, he wasn't even on the Buckers at this point.
- [135:33]
AJ Hawk
Right.
- [135:33]
Pat McAfee
You know, not too long ago, this dude was pitching for lsu and then he was here with the Indianapolis Indians downtown selling this place out.
- [135:42]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [135:42]
Pat McAfee
I mean, just everybody was coming to watch the AAA affiliate for the Pittsburgh Pirates. Not that they don't always do because it's a beautiful stadium. It is a beautiful night out here in Indy, but, like, you'll get, let's say 60% full every time skeens was on there. That place was packed out. Ticket prices were going up. 50, 60 bucks, whatever it was. Then he goes right to the Pirates. Same thing. Must watch television. He performed wonderfully. Now, it wasn't always good Wood whenever he was pitching, so maybe we didn't get all the outcome we needed. Adds to two pitches. Now he's the opening day ace for the Pirates and he is channel changer worthy without a doubt. And I think a lot of people feel that way. So you got sh. You got skin. He's only upped his game right, SK in this entire thing.
- [136:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I mean, you know, same deal. He had never faced, like, MLB hitters last year, but, like, when you have stuff like he does it, it doesn't matter. And he is another one of those guys where, like, as long as he stays healthy, he's going to be in contention to be like, a Cy Young. Young. Every single year. And that moment where he gets told that he's, you know, starting opening Day, like, that was really sweet because, you know, obviously, like, that's a moment he's dreamed of his entire life, probably. He obviously probably knew that that was going to be the case when he's one of the best pitchers in baseball. He damn near won the Cy Young last year as a rookie. But just like, being told that, like, I'm sure that that is something that he'll remember forever, too.
- [136:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Baseball seemingly has those moments, you know.
- [137:01]
AJ Hawk
When guys get called up to the big leagues and stuff like that.
- [137:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah. Starting, you know. Yeah. There's.
- [137:06]
Evan Fox
How many years till the Yankees snatch him up, though, Ty?
- [137:08]
AJ Hawk
Whenever he's available.
- [137:09]
Pat McAfee
Seven. Everybody needs. Relax. Okay.
- [137:11]
Evan Fox
Oh, it's going to be. They got him for seven years.
- [137:13]
Darius Butler
They got him for a decent amount.
- [137:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That's a long time.
- [137:16]
Evan Fox
He's got to be able to opt out, doesn't he?
- [137:18]
Darius Butler
I see and I want to.
- [137:20]
Pat McAfee
He's Pittsburgh boy. You see that mustache? He's got.
- [137:23]
Boston Connor
He's got a beard now.
- [137:24]
Pat McAfee
He's looking unbelievable. And he. He's, you know, he's got that. He's super calm. Jeez. Super duper humble. Like, unbelievable humility.
- [137:35]
Boston Connor
Very chill.
- [137:36]
Pat McAfee
Wanted to be a fighter pilot, you know, in this entire thing. Still, I think, donates to the military, things like that. He's got a new one. You see, off to the right. Whenever he gets somebody, you know, because there's a couple moments where he gets strike and there's like, he times up the. Yeah, he's got a couple new little. Oh, we're vibing right now.
- [137:54]
Boston Connor
Pizzazz.
- [137:55]
Pat McAfee
And he's added two pitchers. And to your point about last year at this. This point, he had never faced MLB hitters. So, like, now he has, like, half a season of experience, kind of knows.
- [138:04]
AJ Hawk
How to get guys out. Certain guys, like, the really good guys, it's like, okay, he doesn't do as well with this pitch, or, like, he doesn't like this area or I can get him to, you know, look on this pitch, or, you know, what did he add?
- [138:14]
Pat McAfee
What are the two pitches he added? Do we remember what they were. He added two pitches this off season.
- [138:19]
AJ Hawk
I don't know what to pick, but, like, that's something that. That's what they say, like, when these guys actually get to the big leagues and they get like a. Where you're not doing anything else and this is a full time job. Like when you have the ability to kind of manipulate the baseball like he does. Like, you know, they talked about his splinter that no one else had. Like, but a couple. When a guy throws this hard, sometimes they don't have to rely as much on off speed pitches. But that would be the thing. Like he'll, he'll add a couple plus.
- [138:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What were they? What were the two pitches? Cutter and a sinker. So that's junk. Is that what that's considered?
- [138:49]
AJ Hawk
Like variations of a fastball. But just like that the movement is like, you know, those could potentially be a couple more out pitches. Because that is one thing like people would start to know. Like you get O down O2 and they, they talked about the splinter all last year. It's like you kind of understand that.
- [139:04]
Pat McAfee
That.
- [139:04]
AJ Hawk
But also like, you know, like Mariano Rivera threw a cutter. So like if he gets guys on base and he wants to jam guys up and try to, you know, like turn double plays and stuff like that, like these are just options where. Because he, he is a strikeout pitcher. Like, and if you want to kind of manage how many pitches he's going to throw in a game, because it's one of those things when you're striking out a shitload of guys, like they don't want him throwing over a hundred pitches every, every game. Like they want him to have some quick innings. So you implement like a cutter and a sinker where you're going to induce a lot more like ground outs and stuff like that. Like that might be what, what they're thinking.
- [139:36]
Boston Connor
Jeez, is the replay gonna be live this year? Yeah, I think so.
- [139:40]
Pat McAfee
I think I saw some tapping of a helmet or something. No, I was just spring training.
- [139:43]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Not doing it.
- [139:45]
Pat McAfee
So no new rules this year.
- [139:47]
AJ Hawk
Right? Just it'd be the. Yeah. All the same, like pitch clock and all that kind of. Is still instituted. But. Yeah. Not going to the replay for, you know, balls and strikes.
- [139:54]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so are we going to pay attention more to this baseball season because the Mets are now the kings of New York.
- [139:59]
AJ Hawk
They're not, but you know, hey, they could be. Season hasn't started yet. Season hasn't started yet.
- [140:04]
Pat McAfee
Will be good. So what happened, what happened to the Yankees? Yankees are in a bad spot.
- [140:10]
AJ Hawk
I mean, yeah, it hasn't been the greatest sprint, to say the least.
- [140:13]
Boston Connor
The big boom.
- [140:14]
AJ Hawk
But. Yeah.
- [140:15]
Pat McAfee
Nah, but did you see what the big booms did for somebody else? They did something else. Somebody won A bunch. The big Booms.
- [140:20]
AJ Hawk
Who, oh, who's that?
- [140:22]
Pat McAfee
LA King. Six goals straight since they.
- [140:24]
Boston Connor
I thought that was the Rizzler by field. Yeah, the Rizzler was there for that, though.
- [140:28]
AJ Hawk
Well, again, you know, they're. They're just guns for hire, so they can act like they're Yankee fans, but, you know, again, until Aaron Judge.
- [140:34]
Pat McAfee
All right. Yep.
- [140:35]
AJ Hawk
Batters them to a bloody pulp. Whichever one they want to, you know, put up for it, it is. That's their call. But no, we'll see. I mean, I'm. What are you talking about? What do you mean?
- [140:46]
Pat McAfee
Serious, serious business. I'm a Boom fan. We're all big. I was fans.
- [140:50]
Ty Schmidt
I was.
- [140:50]
AJ Hawk
And you know what? I should have known when they went into Texas Roadhouse and did what they did. I should have known a little bit.
- [140:55]
Evan Fox
True.
- [140:56]
AJ Hawk
Maybe I need to look into these folks a little bit more.
- [140:58]
Pat McAfee
The Texas Roadhouse thing was wild. That made me want to go to Texas Roadhouse to show my allegiance to Texas Road. I did, for sure. Yeah, me too. Me and the wife did as well. Yeah. Sat right down there at the bar. Hey, I need one of your chilled salads that are unbelievable.
- [141:10]
Darius Butler
Chicken critters are unbelievable.
- [141:12]
Pat McAfee
Fantastic. The fries, the loaders steak fries. Come on. The ranch dressing there better than anywhere else. And then the chicken fried steak. How you doing? Keep it moving. How many Booms? All of the Booms. So we're going to disagree on some things. Sure. But they did say that the Yankees, since the booms have happened, has not been great. What about the World Series performance? We don't have to throw more people under it all, but Ice Cube out in la. Okay. Today was a good day.
- [141:36]
AJ Hawk
No, no, Fat Joe is certainly to blame.
- [141:37]
Pat McAfee
No, I don't think Fat Joe.
- [141:39]
AJ Hawk
He is.
- [141:40]
Pat McAfee
He was just showing up for the team just like Tracy Morgan was last night.
- [141:43]
AJ Hawk
Well, yeah, I hope he's doing okay.
- [141:45]
Pat McAfee
We are happy to report via Tracy Morgan's Instagram that it was food poisoning and he is a. Okay.
- [141:52]
AJ Hawk
Okay, good.
- [141:52]
Boston Connor
That's it.
- [141:53]
Pat McAfee
He also mentioned. He also mentioned thanks, obviously, to all the staff and his people for taking care of him. And he said, hey, they're undefeated when I puke on the court, so I might need to bring this back into playoffs. And I'll tell you what, he's got the Knicks on his phone cover. I assume that Tracy Morgan would force himself to puke later if it was an actuality of them being undefeated. But, yeah, this hit the Internet and obviously with everything that's happened around Tracy Morgan, I Think a lot of people were like, is he okay?
- [142:22]
Evan Fox
Cranos guy right there.
- [142:23]
AJ Hawk
Bacala.
- [142:24]
Darius Butler
I don't think Bobby Bacala wants to see that again.
- [142:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Bobby goes to every game, though. Bobby Sheets.
- [142:28]
AJ Hawk
He does.
- [142:28]
Pat McAfee
He's Master Square Garden. Tracy Morgan puking over my goddamn shoes. A lot of people. These shoes. Yes, these shoes. So it was puke and then there was some blood. And I think all of us were just like, we hope everything. Is he okay? Turns out it was food poisoning. And he said, he'll be back. Don't you worry about it.
- [142:44]
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
- [142:44]
Pat McAfee
You need some more puke, too. We'll get it. That was a lot of vomit.
- [142:46]
Seth Greenberg
Yeah, it was a lot.
- [142:47]
Boston Connor
That was crazy.
- [142:48]
Evan Fox
That's, like, splashed all over the court, too. It definitely splashed off the. I would.
- [142:51]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [142:52]
Pat McAfee
And definitely. You saw the girl sitting two down. She had boots on, I think. But she was even like, huh, Jeez. Cuz. Some people get a little chain reaction whenever they see it. Yeah, this is. Okay, there it is.
- [143:06]
AJ Hawk
Y.
- [143:06]
Pat McAfee
It was a stream.
- [143:07]
AJ Hawk
It was.
- [143:08]
Pat McAfee
And that was. Get out of my body. You know, there was something in there that was. Give me out of here.
- [143:13]
Boston Connor
Violent.
- [143:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Happy. He's okay, Tracy. We're happy you're okay. Okay. Oh, yeah. You ever watch his Comedians in Cars? Getting coffee with Seinfeld?
- [143:23]
AJ Hawk
I think I have seen it.
- [143:25]
Pat McAfee
He has like a Lambo or a Ferrari or something. They pull up at his house. He's got this gated area in New York City, I think. Beautiful home. You go through it. Tracy talking. I love that show. Great show. I really.
- [143:34]
Evan Fox
It was really good. It was really good.
- [143:35]
Pat McAfee
He.
- [143:36]
Evan Fox
They also made a tank for him on that fish tank. When they used to build fish tanks for people, they built a sweet one for Tracy.
- [143:41]
Pat McAfee
Tanked, I think, is the name of it. Yeah. Yeah, I remember that show. Yep. All right. We've all watched the same things, but you guys have watched a lot more than me. But if I've watched it, I think it means everybody has watched it.
- [143:51]
AJ Hawk
Do you know, did Paul Tootle Jr. And senior build him a chopper as well? Or.
- [143:54]
Pat McAfee
Listen, Gordon county choppers.
- [143:56]
AJ Hawk
Okay, I know, but that time.
- [143:59]
Pat McAfee
And you need to have a little bit of respect for the boys.
- [144:01]
AJ Hawk
I do. I respect those guys arguably more than anyone else in the United States.
- [144:05]
Pat McAfee
I wanted a chopper as soon as I seen one. I think they put a spider one.
- [144:08]
Evan Fox
Out or a. I think it was Yankees one, too. Sweet Yankees bike.
- [144:12]
Darius Butler
Yeah, you should get one.
- [144:14]
Pat McAfee
They were so fiery, you know, they were. They were so fire.
- [144:17]
AJ Hawk
I love yelling.
- [144:18]
Pat McAfee
Junior was just Trying to do his art.
- [144:20]
AJ Hawk
I know.
- [144:20]
Pat McAfee
Senior was like, this is my show still. And it was that kicking through doors.
- [144:25]
Evan Fox
Kicking through those flimsy doors in that office, bro.
- [144:27]
Pat McAfee
This chair right here. No shot. No. This thing's on wheels and grabbable. Paul, Senior is going to send this through a window. Yeah, he's tired of it, too, Junior. Yeah, he's tired of it. I don't have time. What a shot at Mikey. Mikey. Mikey was such a goober, wasn't he?
- [144:48]
Darius Butler
Why does Junior look so small now?
- [144:49]
Pat McAfee
He's not a small guy. Well, this is when he was younger, obviously. Look at the age of Mike, you know? We can tell by the hair and the style of Mikey. Hey, we appreciate what you guys did. All those Orange county choppers look like they're very easy to ride and comfortable, fun.
- [145:04]
Boston Connor
They need to have him play Hogan in the biopic.
- [145:07]
Pat McAfee
Mikey, or.
- [145:08]
Boston Connor
Yeah, biopic. The Senior.
- [145:10]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I didn't know Mikey.
- [145:11]
Boston Connor
They both. He could play his son.
- [145:13]
Pat McAfee
They introduced. They introduced me to the first ever. I believe it's called Suicide Shift or something like that, where it's like an actual gear shift on the bike.
- [145:22]
Evan Fox
Yeah.
- [145:23]
Pat McAfee
As opposed to, like the saw.
- [145:25]
Evan Fox
Brad Pitt had one of those. I saw him riding around doing that.
- [145:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That seems dangerous. That seems like that's a bad idea.
- [145:31]
Darius Butler
The name came apart.
- [145:32]
Boston Connor
Yeah, I think so.
- [145:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. How they getting gas in some of those tanks, too? Some of those tanks were real slender. So I'm like, am I getting down the road here? And then we got to refill or. And then they'd always have an answer. Got a second tank, you know, down here. It's like, thank you, Orange. What have we not talked about today that we need to hit? We hit. We hit baseball. We hit. Not well enough, though. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is the senior insider for the MLB at espn, man, who is the voice of a generation for a sport that is called America's pastime. Oldest pastime, ladies and gentlemen. Jet Pass.
- [146:10]
Evan Fox
Yeah, Jet.
- [146:12]
Pat McAfee
Hey, did you watch the Tuttles make motorcycles? Yeah, I did.
- [146:19]
Jeff Passan
They were brilliant. I loved them. It all goes back to the scene in Pulp Fiction where Butch is confronted by his girlfriend, saying, what's that? And he says, it's a chopper. And she says, can we get on your motorcycle? And he's like, no, that's a chopper, baby. It's Zed's. Who's Zed? Zed's dead. And I love the whole scene. So ever since then, I will.
- [146:46]
Ty Schmidt
Chopper fan.
- [146:47]
Pat McAfee
Since then. Since Chopper fan. Got it. Rest in peace, To Zed. I don't know what Zed did. I don't remember Pulp Fiction exactly, but not great. Zed deserved it. Rest in piss. Rest in piss. Zed. That's what I think. And he enjoyed choppers. Choppers are a wonderful bike. My first bike was a chopper extended front end. You know, it has a longer. That's kind of the chopper. You chop it up, you know, you do the whole thing. And I've always wanted an Orange county chopper. Maybe today's the day we pull on Patrick. I think senior and junior and things separate. I don't know, to be honest. It just got reminded of it. Probably will happen by the end of the week. Speaking of, by the end of this week, the actual MLB season won't have started. But we've already had two games now. This is the second year I believe that the MLB has done this where the games are international to start the season, but it's not actually. Everybody else is still in preseason. I love this move, you know, because it's kind of a teaser to the regular season coming and also the environment. I wasn't up for it, but seeing the clips, electrifying over there now. Is Shohei the reason for this all happening? And how often will we have this type of international crossover going forward?
- [147:57]
Jeff Passan
I mean, Shohei is the reason for everything in baseball now, right? Like it's. It's been a quarter century since baseball's had a star like a. Like a star with international appeal, like Shohei Ohtani and the fact that they can go to Tokyo. And it's not just Shohei, right? Yoshinobu Yamamoto starts the game for the Dodgers. Shota Imanaga starts the game for the Cubs.
- [148:21]
Seth Greenberg
Stay.
- [148:21]
Jeff Passan
Suzuki is hitting second for the Cubs. Shohei is hitting leadoff. Roki Sasaki starting Game 2 for the Dodgers. You know, baseball has been trying to catch up internationally to other sports over the last decade or so. And we had the games in Korea last year and they've gone to Japan. You know, I Remember back in 2008, the A's and the Red Sox started the season there. And that was my first time visiting Japan. So this isn't anything that's new necessarily, but there's just a lot more resonance now because Japan is such an integral part of where baseball is now and where it wants to be. And listen, there are not a lot of. Not a lot of countries around the world, Pat, where baseball is the number one sport. It is unquestionably so in Japan. So to see the game start in that Environment to see Ohtani get to play in front of a country where he's absolutely revered, I think was really cool thing for the sport.
- [149:17]
Pat McAfee
I think we heard whenever Shota talked to us last year through a translator, first of all, he was awesome on our show, said, call me Mike, put the whole thing in there. He is, he is awesome. He is. They need to showcase him more. And obviously starting on opening day here for the Cubs and throwing a no hitter through four and then obviously them pulling him and his Home Country 1 opening day. Nonetheless, that's, it's, it's all, all conversation there. But whenever you, you think about, I forget which direction I was headed with this, but Shohei getting their entire country to kind of rally behind it. And then the numbers are like 30 million, right. For that first playoff game, I think is what they said internationally. It's would behoove the MLB to do more over there, right? Because a lot of these guys didn't they say, and I think, oh yeah, this is where I was Shota. Shota said like he almost didn't want to leave Japan. Like some of these people don't want to leave Japan because of what baseball is over there. So if like Shohei is now playing back in Japan a couple times a year, Shota's playing a couple of times back in Japan, I think that's a big decision for a lot of these Japanese baseball players, right? Isn't that something, if I was hearing them correctly?
- [150:24]
Jeff Passan
Oh, 100%. I mean, think about this, Pat. Think about you wanting to do the thing that you love at the absolute highest level possible. And look, Japanese baseball is very good. It's not Major League Baseball. The level of competition in MLB is just so much higher than everywhere around the world. And so if you want to test yourself as an athlete, if you want to push yourself to be the best you can be, you go to Major League Baseball. In spite of the cultural differences and of the things that you are missing at home, you make yourself uncomfortable. And I think that that discomfort, you know, for a lot of guys, it's what fuels them, that they don't want to be the person who went across the ocean to play the game they love and came back home as a failure. And so having that pushing them and getting to bring that to Japan where they so deeply appreciate the sport and appreciate all the beauties of it. I understand there are a lot of fans right now who are like, why are you starting the season somewhere else? And to that I say, let's remember this is not about Today, for Major League Baseball, this is not about this year. This is about a game that doesn't have as much resonance in the United States as it did once upon a time. And so how can we figure out where to find that resonance? And if you can find that in Japan, if you can find that in other countries, then why wouldn't you bring your product there and spread the love and showcase it?
- [151:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Like baseball, showcasing how much it's loved in Japan, I think is a good thing. Like, for me, I'm watching that. That environment, I'm like, damn, they love. Like, baseball is. Love it huge. Yeah, it's, like, cool for me to see. I didn't wake up for it. But like the clips, it is certainly something. Ty has some questions for you.
- [152:07]
Jeff Passan
I'll tell you. I'll tell you what it reminds me of quickly. Sorry to interrupt there. What it reminds me of is baseball in the Dominican Republic and in Venezuela and in Cuba and all throughout Latin America, where it's. It's not a pastime, it's a passion. And, you know, the lack of passion domestically around Major League Baseball is alarming for the sport. But to go and find it in other places and to show fans in the United States what baseball can be like, you know, baseball in the. In Latin America, in the Caribbean, in Japan reminds me a lot of college football just in how much pride people take in their teams and how, like, truly deeply devoted they are to it to that point.
- [152:50]
Pat McAfee
College baseball. Right, right. Like some of these college baseball teams will see out of the sec, Most.
- [152:56]
AJ Hawk
Of in the south certainly don't want.
- [152:57]
Pat McAfee
To, you know, continue to toot Greg Sankey's horn down there, but geez Louise, it seems like down the south, their baseball teams are very passionate. I still remember, I think it was Ole Miss hit a dinger. First one out of co. First thing we saw, live audience was college baseball. Home run, everybody in the outfield, packed beers, waters going bananas. It's like. That looks like. Like a whole different sport. And then the Savannah Bananas, there's so stadium.
- [153:23]
Boston Connor
No, no, no. Boys won't go there. But what do you.
- [153:26]
Pat McAfee
No, no, no. That is awesome. That's good for the sport of baseball as well.
- [153:28]
Boston Connor
Very cool. But that. That ain't baseball. And even I know that. 1, 2, 3.
- [153:32]
Pat McAfee
Right now, zany.
- [153:33]
Boston Connor
1, 2, 3. Right now is SEC teams for the rankings in college baseball.
- [153:38]
Pat McAfee
So what you're saying, though, is it does exist out there. There's a chance it continues to grow, but showcasing it from other places, not a big bad Thing, especially if it's going home from a place that's 16 hours times different time difference. I mean, it is opposite side of earth and all. Okay, Ty has some questions for you. Jeff.
- [153:52]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, Jet, to your point about how good baseball is in Japan, but still not obviously being on the level of the mlb. I mean, we saw a couple of the Japanese teams win exhibition games earlier here. Do you think the success that some of these guys have had in the mlb, like, do you think the dam is about to break for Japanese players coming over and playing in the MLB anytime soon? I mean, we've seen that kid who was the, you know, the home run record in Japan in high school who played at Shohei High School and he's at Stanford. He just hit a couple fucking nukes recently. So obviously these guys are kind of starting to come over more. But do you think the dam is really about to break and we're about to see a whole bunch of Japanese players coming in and playing in the MLB soon?
- [154:33]
Jeff Passan
Yeah, Ty, you're talking about Rintaro Sasaki at Stanford and, and you know, there are a couple of young right handers, Shumpeta Yamashita and Hiroto Takahashi, who are in their early 20s and thriving in Nippon Professional Baseball. And one of the things about baseball that the modern era and the technology that we have now has provided is like, we know who's going to be good when they come here. We know what pitch shapes look like, we know what, what quality stuff is, we know what a good swing is. So it's not quite as much of a guessing game as it was in the past. And if you have a guy who is going and performing, it's not just about his ERA anymore. It's okay. What is the shape of his fastball and how does he throw his splitter and all these different elements that allow us a better understanding of what a player actually is. And yeah, because of that, I think there is going to be a flood of players who are coming over. It's not going to be in the, in the immediate future, but I think now that Japan understands, okay, this is what players have to look like in order to go to Major League Baseball. A lot more players are going to focus their training on reaching that ultimate goal of mlb.
- [155:50]
Pat McAfee
I've never seen. He's a dog. Okay, that's my first time with eyes. What? Gone.
- [155:59]
Jeff Passan
He's a, He's a thick boy, Patrick.
- [156:01]
Pat McAfee
That's my first time seeing. Yeah, that was my first time with that. Because Ty's been talking this Guy up like he is the next one when it comes to hitting in this entire thing. That's my first time seeing him. I love that. That's good for baseball.
- [156:13]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. He's not going to be getting a whole lot of extra base hits. He's not going to be stealing a whole lot of bases. But hey, that's like one of the.
- [156:20]
Pat McAfee
Things about baseball though. Like you think about football, any body type can play. Baseball's always had that same thing. Baseball has always had that kind of relatability, you know. And I'm not saying this guy isn't a freak athlete, which he certainly is.
- [156:32]
AJ Hawk
That one.
- [156:32]
Pat McAfee
Just look at that swig. Ty loves this guy. I mean, caught him the next Babe Ruth. Is that what, is that what you said?
- [156:39]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. He kind of looks like Babe Ruth too. It is like Stanford Headshot. If you just put like a stubby little cigar and maybe put like a hot dog in his breast pocket. We got, we have Japanese Babe Ruth.
- [156:49]
Pat McAfee
Truth. And he's out. You know.
- [156:51]
Jeff Passan
You know who he looks like? He looks like Prince Fielder. That's what he is.
- [156:55]
AJ Hawk
It's a good comp.
- [156:55]
Jeff Passan
You know, not a tall guy. But. And, and Prince, like. I think there was a mistake among fans who thought like Prince Fielder was fat. He was not fat. They're just these bodies.
- [157:09]
Pat McAfee
I'm telling you, he had some cushion. It's a.
- [157:12]
Jeff Passan
But like it's a bundle of muscle.
- [157:17]
Pat McAfee
Connor doesn't believe. Conor doesn't believe.
- [157:20]
Jeff Passan
I know. Yeah. Oh yeah. Conor's got a lot of room for talking about guys with bad bodies.
- [157:24]
Boston Connor
That's what I'm saying.
- [157:25]
Pat McAfee
Jeez Louise.
- [157:25]
Boston Connor
Takes on the no. 1, Jed. I, I know one when I see it.
- [157:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I, I got a bad body for it too, you know. But if you do add any thickness at all, it's very visible. Yeah. You know, with the way a body is felt. So. Yes, I agree. All these dudes that play baseball and are bigger have to be ridiculously strong. Like that is something they have to have. Have. But they might be comfortable, you know, they might, they might get comfortable.
- [157:47]
Evan Fox
They got hands. They got that hand speed, man.
- [157:49]
Pat McAfee
Ping pong. I bet they are. Oh my God.
- [157:52]
AJ Hawk
Oh yeah.
- [157:53]
Pat McAfee
I bet those big boys dominating.
- [157:55]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [157:56]
Pat McAfee
Ping pong tables. I didn't think about that.
- [157:57]
AJ Hawk
Without a doubt.
- [157:58]
Pat McAfee
Horse games. Probably pretty good.
- [158:00]
AJ Hawk
Not bad.
- [158:02]
Jeff Passan
Best ping pong player in Major league baseball is Bruce Grotto who's like six three, three hundred pounds. So there you go.
- [158:08]
Boston Connor
It's good body.
- [158:09]
Pat McAfee
Bingo. He's a wall too. Six three is a wall. Yeah, you know, that's tough to get back if you just keep it on the table. Obviously that's good. The guy who would probably win if they did have an actual ping pong tournament, just because that's what he does. Paul Skin. Where are we at? Paul Skins. I talked to, I talked to Paul.
- [158:24]
Jeff Passan
Skeens today for about 90 minutes actually. It was like the first real sit down conversation that I've had with him. And he might be the most impressive just like as a human being, as the, like the most impressive a young baseball player I've seen in the 25 or so years that I've been doing this. He just has it together. Like he gets it. He knows who he is, he knows what he wants to be. He has so many of these external distractions that could just waylay him away from his goals. But the fact that he spent those two years at Air Force getting to know himself, preparing him for the time that he spent at lsu, which prepared him for Major League Baseball. Like I, I, I just came away so impressed by the guy. He really gets it.
- [159:10]
Pat McAfee
Absurdly humble, isn't he? Yeah, but you, you're talking about him knowing who he is too. It's like he knows too. Yeah, like he knows he's a guy. Let's not waste it. Let's make the most of it and then also let's try to get better and better. We just talked about it. He added a sinker and a, and a cutter this offseason. Oh, jets connection is. I don't want to talk about the Pirates. I mean, I get it.
- [159:34]
Boston Connor
That does make success.
- [159:36]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, Jeff Passon.
- [159:38]
Boston Connor
Hey, Jet.
- [159:39]
Evan Fox
Thanks, Jeff.
- [159:39]
Pat McAfee
You can learn more about that 90 minute sit down that Jeff Passon had with Paul Skeen somewhere at some time.
- [159:44]
Boston Connor
Jetpass.com probably going to air it somewhere.
- [159:47]
Pat McAfee
All right. What did we not talk about Raw yesterday? Brussels was awesome. That was a bummer not being there.
- [159:52]
Boston Connor
Yeah, start with Sweet John Cena.
- [159:55]
Pat McAfee
He's mad at me. I'm a fan. What's he mad at me for?
- [159:59]
Darius Butler
You guys are making what he doing.
- [160:00]
Evan Fox
He's on the war path.
- [160:02]
Pat McAfee
The invisible joke is funny, dude.
- [160:04]
Boston Connor
Yeah, come on.
- [160:04]
Pat McAfee
It's funny.
- [160:05]
Boston Connor
And don't yell. Don't call that little kid a son of a.
- [160:07]
Darius Butler
Well, the kid was being a son of a.
- [160:09]
Pat McAfee
No, he wasn't. The kid was just having a time.
- [160:11]
AJ Hawk
That kid was in shock after that.
- [160:13]
Pat McAfee
As he should have been.
- [160:14]
Boston Connor
Yeah, that might change the trajectory of his life.
- [160:18]
Pat McAfee
Go on, bub. You can be the next John Cena. When John Cena stood for all good things. John Cena seemed to be a little bit upset with the way he's been treated over the last 25. Five years, you know, because there. There's always been the let's go Cena. Cena sucks, people. It's always been. Even whenever he was going out there, every single day, every single night, living on the road, committing his whole life to it, boom, boom, boom. Lucky to do it, thankful to do it. Making the most wishes in the history of make a wish, you know, boom, boom, boom. Seeing our socks, that was just kind.
- [160:50]
Boston Connor
Of the whole time added on.
- [160:52]
Pat McAfee
And then when push came to shove. What? He too, snapped. He said, I'm done with this. My last opportunity to let these people know that I don't like the way they've treated me. And he said that a lot yesterday.
- [161:01]
AJ Hawk
He did. Bone was weeping in here.
- [161:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, because he called out Bone.
- [161:06]
AJ Hawk
He did.
- [161:06]
Pat McAfee
He said the let's go, Cena people is who he talked. You're the. You're just as despicable as you're pathetic. He's talking to Bone.
- [161:14]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [161:15]
Darius Butler
That kid was Bone in an alternate universe.
- [161:17]
Evan Fox
Yeah.
- [161:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Younger.
- [161:18]
Darius Butler
Started yelling just like.
- [161:20]
Pat McAfee
Like Belgian Bone, Belgium. Bone and Debone here suffered the same fate yesterday, which was heartbreak.
- [161:26]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [161:27]
Pat McAfee
Because the things that John Cena said. I was bummed out as well. I was bummed out. I hope he finds some happiness in there and knows that. There's a lot of us that respect the work you've done, John. Yeah, a lot of us respect. Massive respect, Gratitude for, you know, the work. And just because we said, let's go, Cena, every once in a while, it was us trying to tell you that. That. Yeah.
- [161:48]
AJ Hawk
Trying to get behind you.
- [161:50]
Pat McAfee
I didn't like what I heard from him.
- [161:52]
AJ Hawk
Me neither.
- [161:52]
Boston Connor
Love what I heard from.
- [161:54]
Evan Fox
Start rapping again.
- [161:56]
Pat McAfee
He should start thuganomic. Should have got out there.
- [161:59]
AJ Hawk
He should have.
- [162:00]
Pat McAfee
You know, I thought maybe he was going to come out and just talk about how great he was. Didn't. Isn't that a. Yeah, I thought he.
- [162:05]
AJ Hawk
He could have.
- [162:06]
Pat McAfee
Instead, he came out and said, let me tell you how terrible you are. Jeez Louise, Bob. All right. Some people say he was pat.
- [162:14]
AJ Hawk
Oh, you could argue he was pat.
- [162:16]
Boston Connor
He was.
- [162:17]
Pat McAfee
I saw people saying he was patting AJ. Did you see that? It's. It's 3. 10 in the afternoon, and John Cena's pat. That's what. That's what I saw people saying. Because when you were listening to him, it was. It was a little bit of that. This ain't that John Cena? I know.
- [162:32]
Darius Butler
He was just telling the truth.
- [162:34]
Evan Fox
And that's what he's got off the movie set. You know, he has a quick break from the movie set, whatever. He's filming. Jumping off, off, you know, helicopters.
- [162:40]
Pat McAfee
He's.
- [162:40]
Evan Fox
He's got a lot in his mind still movie sets.
- [162:43]
Darius Butler
He's John C. And he's a wrestler.
- [162:45]
Pat McAfee
You're right. He is a professional wrestler.
- [162:47]
Evan Fox
He's also a professional actor. That's gonna win a academy Award someday.
- [162:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. We would assume that is the case.
- [162:52]
Boston Connor
Wasn't acting yesterday.
- [162:55]
Pat McAfee
I agree. Maybe. Was that the. No.
- [162:58]
AJ Hawk
It better not have been.
- [162:59]
Pat McAfee
That wasn't though. What Ceno has always been.
- [163:02]
AJ Hawk
It better not.
- [163:03]
Ty Schmidt
Maybe.
- [163:04]
Pat McAfee
No way. No way.
- [163:06]
Boston Connor
That's what the champ said.
- [163:07]
Pat McAfee
Because as I was watching, you know, had a good setup in here yesterday. Watching. Wish I was there. Crowd was electrifying. Shout out to the Brussels crowd. Massey. Beaucoupash. Wow. You did it. Thank you.
- [163:22]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [163:22]
Pat McAfee
That was awesome show.
- [163:23]
AJ Hawk
It was.
- [163:24]
Pat McAfee
Adam Pierce was in the middle of it. It was. Adam Pierce was really in the middle of it. I mean, he. He went from one thing, boom. Right to another, another. Just bang out the back. Coming into gorilla. What are you doing with the contract? I need a contract to Rhea Ripley. And then once he. I don't know how it got settled in gorilla, he pokes his head out and boom, there's a fight happening. Jeez Louise.
- [163:44]
Boston Connor
People going nuts.
- [163:45]
AJ Hawk
Trying to put out fires all night.
- [163:46]
Pat McAfee
Literally.
- [163:47]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [163:47]
Pat McAfee
In a different country.
- [163:48]
Boston Connor
Yeah. That's Brussels.
- [163:49]
Pat McAfee
That is Brussels. It was awesome. Over here. Was not happy. He was potting. People were saying of it.
- [163:55]
Boston Connor
He was.
- [163:57]
Pat McAfee
I don't like Body Cena.
- [163:59]
AJ Hawk
No, me neither.
- [164:00]
Pat McAfee
That better not be who actually it won't be. I mean, what does the final boss gotta say about what Cena said there?
- [164:07]
AJ Hawk
Maybe. Maybe scene is taking orders from the final boss and, you know, he's just a puppet again.
- [164:11]
Pat McAfee
He wouldn't do that on location. Wrestle Ops is reporting via P. Professional Wrestling Insider on location, which is the company that kind of does all the event stuff, is offering a special intimate meal with John Cena at a 5 star restaurant during WrestleMania 41 week. Going for 25,000 a person. All right, we're going to do that. So that's it. So how many people? How many people?
- [164:34]
Evan Fox
Is it a table of 100? Like, what do they limit this?
- [164:37]
Pat McAfee
Imagine we just circled John for a dinner. Just us. I think it's just joining us for a dinner. You bone.
- [164:42]
Evan Fox
He's got to sit in the middle.
- [164:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Right in the middle. Bone would be like in the round.
- [164:46]
Evan Fox
And we're all sitting around.
- [164:47]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Bone, Bone, what if it was just you and Cena in there?
- [164:53]
Evan Fox
Oh, can you imagine face to face?
- [164:56]
Pat McAfee
We bought all 10 spots just for you, Bone. But wouldn't you want to tell them, like, hey, I was a. Let's go. Seeing a guy from the very beginning. Is that what you would want to say, Bone? Or how'd you feel about yesterday? Were you. You were a little heartbroken, like that little kid from Belgium, that little Belgian bone boy? No, not really.
- [165:11]
Boston Connor
I went home and did some reflection.
- [165:12]
Pat McAfee
Collecting, and I think we did up. Can you. Oh, my God. No, no, no. Foxy, can we get a camera straight on his face? And then put that kid. Because you do look.
- [165:20]
AJ Hawk
Looks just like him.
- [165:22]
Pat McAfee
You look exactly like the kid. We're gonna probably use this one here, so you can just go right back in the mic quick.
- [165:27]
Boston Connor
He smells so bad.
- [165:29]
Pat McAfee
What? That's because he's been crying all night. That's because Bones been crying all night. Because, I mean, Belgian bone dude.
- [165:36]
Evan Fox
The same face as the kid.
- [165:37]
Pat McAfee
Here we go. Yeah. Oh, no, he was not smiling. Yeah.
- [165:42]
AJ Hawk
A little more shocking.
- [165:43]
Evan Fox
Hey, a little bit.
- [165:44]
Pat McAfee
Act like you were acting whenever John Cena came out and said it was your fault. Yeah.
- [165:47]
Evan Fox
A little frown.
- [165:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [165:49]
Evan Fox
Oh, my goodness.
- [165:50]
Pat McAfee
Two different continents, two different age groups.
- [165:53]
Darius Butler
Same kid.
- [165:54]
Pat McAfee
Two different humans. Same kid, same bum. All right, Debun, let's go. You said. You said you looked in inwards and said you did treat him wrong. You weren't supportive enough of.
- [166:03]
Boston Connor
I think we repeat.
- [166:04]
Pat McAfee
Why. I don't think I necessarily was. No, you were spoke ill of John in my life. What a mark.
- [166:10]
Boston Connor
But as fans, I think we are to blame.
- [166:12]
Pat McAfee
You think the. The iwc, potentially. Is that who you're talking about? The Internet wrestling community or you're talking about all wrestling marks? No, absolutely everybody. Because nobody respected his jorts long or gave him enough credit, could never do anything right. We always wanted him healed. We got him healed. Now we hate him. Just like he said. Oh, geez. Okay, boy. John Cena's got a rating Palm. He's gonna buy the merch.
- [166:35]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [166:36]
Pat McAfee
John Cena went out there and said, don't you even think about buying a new merch, okay? You get no new shirt. You get no new intro music. You get nothing for what you've done. And Debone's like, holy. I never thought about it. We did miss Street Cena. He was a superstar through and through.
- [166:53]
Darius Butler
He was.
- [166:55]
Pat McAfee
And what do we say? Cena sucks. Just for fun.
- [166:59]
Boston Connor
Not fun now.
- [167:00]
Darius Butler
We got our laughs in.
- [167:02]
Pat McAfee
It's the last time is now too. So this. I'm going to remember him forever, is the guy who just was mad at us for supporting him. I guess so. Did you ever ask him how he's doing backstage or anything? All the time. Huh.
- [167:12]
Darius Butler
Thank you.
- [167:12]
Pat McAfee
I think it was one of the first things I said you could say no every time I saw him. I said, holy. It's John Cena. That's literally. I guess that is kind of treating him like he's not a human there. Well, geez, I'm part of bro problem.
- [167:25]
Darius Butler
The guy killed Osama bin Laden.
- [167:27]
Pat McAfee
He announced Osama bin Laden was dead. Yes, that is accurate.
- [167:30]
Boston Connor
He gave the order.
- [167:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, different.
- [167:35]
Evan Fox
He was watching from the Oval Office situation.
- [167:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What's going to go on with that intercontinental title? You see Penta snooping? Yeah, boy.
- [167:42]
Darius Butler
Dom up, too. What else is new?
- [167:44]
Pat McAfee
Well, that's Dom. Dom and Finn are certainly at odds a little bit. Last week, Dom got him a title shot. This week they're back to. I don't know. I don't. I don't know what to make of that. Judgment day.
- [167:55]
AJ Hawk
Me neither.
- [167:55]
Boston Connor
It's time to judge him today.
- [167:58]
Pat McAfee
Judgment disarray. Aren't we judging properly? Yeah, I think so. I don't know how Dom is allowed in all these countries anyway. Yeah, same. You think somebody would say no?
- [168:10]
Darius Butler
He's got to be on a list.
- [168:11]
AJ Hawk
Comebacks.
- [168:13]
Darius Butler
Well, actually, over there.
- [168:15]
Evan Fox
What? This.
- [168:15]
Pat McAfee
We're seeing punk out there. I didn't see him. Him.
- [168:18]
AJ Hawk
Phil.
- [168:18]
Pat McAfee
I saw.
- [168:20]
Evan Fox
What?
- [168:21]
Pat McAfee
CM Punk chick mag. Excuse me? I saw Seth Rollins.
- [168:24]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
- [168:25]
Pat McAfee
But they were still saying Seth freaking Rollins.
- [168:27]
Boston Connor
That's weird.
- [168:28]
Pat McAfee
That was an update from a website. Lost the freaking from the website. If the report, what I read was accurate, sure. I haven't gone to a website a long time. Getting a treadmill. Getting a new treadmill. Big deal. Speaking of websites, I've been to. Went to a website. Went to a website. Yes. Getting a treadmill. Treadmill. Very excited about it. Going to be able to run again without all the.
- [168:48]
Evan Fox
Is it like a little more cushion?
- [168:51]
Pat McAfee
It's a.
- [168:52]
Evan Fox
You got the 0.0G.
- [168:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah.
- [168:55]
Seth Greenberg
Oh, yeah.
- [168:55]
Evan Fox
Like the rehab treadmill. That's sweet.
- [168:57]
Pat McAfee
Have you heard about this?
- [168:58]
Evan Fox
I've seen it. Yeah. I've done it back in the day.
- [169:00]
Pat McAfee
Loved it.
- [169:01]
Evan Fox
It takes the weight off. Yeah. Like, after you get, you know, your knee surgery, you get in there and they say, like, okay, you'll be running with 25% of your own weight. Weight right now and you work your way up.
- [169:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I guess there's full workouts. They have like.
- [169:13]
Evan Fox
Oh, that'd be great. You could open it up too. And run fast.
- [169:16]
Pat McAfee
Bingo. Yeah, I think so. I think there's a chance now, you know, with how fat I've got and how many knee things I've had and how much I ran with soccer and kicked balls, which is just knee sprinting and running is not the most fun, but I do miss the feeling of running, so I'm trying to combat that, trying to figure that out. Out. Found this company. We're gonna make it happen. Now it might be an overpriced waste of.
- [169:39]
Darius Butler
It won't be.
- [169:40]
Evan Fox
Just be getting strapped in. Getting strapped. You'll need. You need some help getting strapped into that thing?
- [169:44]
Pat McAfee
No, I'll self. I'll self.
- [169:46]
Evan Fox
Oh, good. Okay. Nice.
- [169:47]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you just got a zip. I think he's got a zip. And then you're in. And then this thing activates. Allegedly some super genius created it to do the opposite, from what I've. I've been told. So they wanted to add gravity to something. Thing for a workout, I believe is what somebody. And then either the son of the creator or somebody around the creator was like, can we invert the gravity in there? And they did. And then all of a sudden, now they're in every building, basically every single rehab facility in the way. So it's like super genius is figuring something out. I assume that super genius wanted to, I don't know, maybe hit hills. I don't know. What, what would. Why would you want more grass?
- [170:27]
Boston Connor
Any work on speed.
- [170:30]
Evan Fox
Trying to film something that you show people that say, hey, we were here.
- [170:34]
Darius Butler
You want to learn how to run?
- [170:35]
AJ Hawk
Shut your mouth.
- [170:36]
Darius Butler
Run on Mercury.
- [170:38]
Boston Connor
Oh, interesting.
- [170:39]
Pat McAfee
Oh, you're saying, you're saying the moon landed. They did this entire thing that was anti.
- [170:44]
AJ Hawk
When was this technology created?
- [170:46]
Pat McAfee
1990.
- [170:49]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, so way after.
- [170:50]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
- [170:51]
AJ Hawk
Nice try.
- [170:52]
Evan Fox
Oh, I'm.
- [170:53]
Pat McAfee
I, I.
- [170:53]
Evan Fox
Hey, I think the moon landing is real. We did it.
- [170:55]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [170:56]
Evan Fox
We made it.
- [170:56]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [170:57]
Evan Fox
I do. I really do.
- [170:58]
Boston Connor
Do you?
- [170:58]
Pat McAfee
Hey, you know what? I, I'd like to look into a little bit more. Everything I see really makes me wonder, but feels like. Feels like my algo is looking for me to wonder, especially if Seth Greenberg is going to be screaming the word conspiracy. Yeah, yeah. On, on this show, just conspiracy. Conspiracy. My phone's listening. Okay, turn this fucking Siri on. First time ever. Turn it on. Oh, it's listening. Anyways, I knew because we'd be talking about something. I opened my phone. All of a sudden, that thing is on my phone. First time ever. It's like I never turned you on. How the did you know that?
- [171:25]
AJ Hawk
Interesting.
- [171:25]
Pat McAfee
Oh, you're listening without me. Oh, maybe I'll be able to sue you. Okay, that'll take 10 years. And I. Nothing will happen. So it's listening. Okay. And this smartphone needs to get smarter. I agree. I'd say my smartphone is low. Low part of class whenever it comes to intelligence. Sure. I'd say as a whole. But yeah, this thing w. Let's. Let's put this in.
- [171:48]
Boston Connor
Come on.
- [171:48]
Seth Greenberg
Yeah.
- [171:50]
Pat McAfee
For the people. One throw only.
- [171:53]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
- [171:54]
Evan Fox
Okay.
- [171:55]
Darius Butler
One shot.
- [171:55]
Boston Connor
You got this.
- [171:57]
Pat McAfee
One shot in moment.
- [171:58]
Boston Connor
Just let it fly.
- [171:59]
Pat McAfee
Don't even think how many people. Way too many. Yeah.
- [172:04]
Boston Connor
Not that. Not that.
- [172:06]
Pat McAfee
Whoa. Got four people playing tonight. Got four teams playing tonight.
- [172:09]
AJ Hawk
Exactly.
- [172:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [172:09]
Boston Connor
Let's wait.
- [172:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, let's. Yeah. Four people. Now's not. Let's go 25 people.
- [172:15]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
- [172:16]
Pat McAfee
500 bucks. All I'll have to do is make this Duke little softer, easier to throw and catch, probably.
- [172:22]
Darius Butler
Definitely.
- [172:22]
Pat McAfee
And hold on to.
- [172:23]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Science.
- [172:24]
Evan Fox
Oh.
- [172:24]
Pat McAfee
Harder to kick, but everything else kind of problem.
- [172:27]
Boston Connor
Do you want to know why that happened for the.
- [172:29]
Pat McAfee
To this ball?
- [172:30]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [172:30]
Pat McAfee
Cuz. In this thunderdome. Oh, yeah.
- [172:33]
Boston Connor
Cuz it was inside, and it's been really warm out. And then since the weather gets colder, air particles come closer together when it gets colder.
- [172:40]
Pat McAfee
Got it.
- [172:40]
Boston Connor
So scientifically, it was proven that balls deflate when it gets colder.
- [172:45]
Pat McAfee
Oh, okay. So it's like when wood is in because the molecule. Yeah, the whole thing.
- [172:49]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Molecules. There you go.
- [172:51]
Pat McAfee
Well, anyways, it is softer. Makes it easier to hold on to throw, catch, that whole thing. All those stats probably go up with. With this particular pressure. If I had to guess. I'm not saying it was done on purpose. Science, definitely.
- [173:02]
Boston Connor
Well, all balls. They didn't test any of the balls on the other team. Which. What team was that?
- [173:07]
Pat McAfee
That I was team I was on.
- [173:08]
Boston Connor
Okay.
- [173:09]
Pat McAfee
Do.
- [173:10]
Boston Connor
How many points did you guys score? I don't remember, but 10, I think. I think we had, like, four Russian touchdowns, so I don't know. Again, who.
- [173:17]
Pat McAfee
Who scored all this?
- [173:17]
Boston Connor
Was that Blount?
- [173:19]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. I still see him running like 180. I was standing at the end. I was standing at the end of the box, you know. Dinner this way. Yeah.
- [173:26]
Boston Connor
He had a big day, and I just walked 3Ts.
- [173:29]
Pat McAfee
He's just still running. Holy. Go down the other side. Holy. We should tackle that guy. We did.
- [173:39]
Boston Connor
No, it's Hard to that year.
- [173:40]
Pat McAfee
And then we got it rubbed in our face because there was a deflate gate that was happening and we were just trying to move on with our lives. Everybody talk about everybody else. Instead the boys and I got just buried. And I was such a low member of the team that obviously. I'm not saying I got buried, but we were reminded of the outcome of that game.
- [173:58]
Seth Greenberg
Game.
- [173:59]
Pat McAfee
Like a lot.
- [174:00]
Boston Connor
Team got buried for sure. Logo got buried.
- [174:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And the performance.
- [174:05]
Darius Butler
The game tick.
- [174:06]
Pat McAfee
And they haven't even got.
- [174:08]
Evan Fox
Can't believe Tom got suspended for that.
- [174:10]
Boston Connor
Oh.
- [174:10]
Pat McAfee
Two years later.
- [174:10]
Boston Connor
Two years later. Which let do another super bowl. But. And the Colts haven't even sniffed that game since.
- [174:17]
Pat McAfee
To back this year. Remember, I'm off this the year. Yeah.
- [174:19]
Evan Fox
This the year.
- [174:20]
Pat McAfee
T. But had talked to me. All the blogs had talked to me. They had to remind me why not believe you're right. Yeah.
- [174:27]
Boston Connor
Dan Jones has a lot of. Angela kidding him.
- [174:29]
Pat McAfee
Not just Dan Jones. There's quarterback competition. Open competition.
- [174:32]
Boston Connor
Yeah, you're right.
- [174:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. They're gonna bring out the best in each other. That's what competition does.
- [174:37]
Boston Connor
At least. This is the first year that you guys have had like a quarterback carousel thing. And this hasn't been going on for like six years.
- [174:43]
Pat McAfee
I know everybody's gonna point to Matt Ryan and Carson Wentz and Philip Rivers and Jacoby Brissette and everything like that. But we also had some good days too. It's just easy to remember Unitis. Yeah.
- [174:53]
Boston Connor
It's an easy time to get behind.
- [174:55]
Pat McAfee
Play for the Colts. Yeah.
- [174:57]
AJ Hawk
Bring a bell.
- [174:59]
Boston Connor
Fran Tarkington. Was he a cult?
- [175:02]
Darius Butler
No, he's a Viking.
- [175:03]
AJ Hawk
He's a Viking.
- [175:04]
Boston Connor
One of the best.
- [175:05]
Pat McAfee
Of course, at the time. Yeah. And when we're talking Vikings football, we'll definitely talk about fr.
- [175:09]
Boston Connor
He's one of the goats who's going.
- [175:11]
Pat McAfee
To play for the Vikings. Aj do you know anybody?
- [175:14]
Evan Fox
I wish I knew.
- [175:15]
Pat McAfee
We all do.
- [175:16]
Darius Butler
You him and tell him. Hey, what are you doing?
- [175:18]
Evan Fox
I. I'd like to. Yeah.
- [175:20]
Pat McAfee
Cold. Face down right now. You can do it.
- [175:22]
Evan Fox
There you go. Do it.
- [175:25]
Pat McAfee
Passon's phone overheated.
- [175:27]
Boston Connor
Yeah, it makes sense.
- [175:29]
Evan Fox
Start the car. Did he not have the car running.
- [175:31]
Darius Butler
Chemical peels or something? His skin was glowing.
- [175:34]
Pat McAfee
He always looks good though. Remember, though. Yeah.
- [175:36]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [175:36]
Pat McAfee
And he's young, isn't he? I think he's older than we think. Because of how young he looks. I. I believe. Just like Les need said he was in his 50s. What the. Are these people all along?
- [175:45]
Evan Fox
Yeah, I know what he's doing.
- [175:46]
Darius Butler
It was Crazy, too.
- [175:48]
Evan Fox
Oh, okay.
- [175:49]
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
- [175:50]
Darius Butler
He's 44.
- [175:51]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [175:51]
AJ Hawk
If he was 62, that tree branch would have killed him.
- [175:54]
Darius Butler
Yeah, you're right.
- [175:54]
Pat McAfee
I forgot. He's come back from.
- [175:56]
AJ Hawk
He broke his back. Oh.
- [175:57]
Pat McAfee
Near death experience.
- [175:58]
Boston Connor
Well, it's because Kirchen was standing next to him and he held it up.
- [176:00]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
- [176:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What do you say?
- [176:04]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [176:05]
Evan Fox
What?
- [176:05]
Pat McAfee
Crawl out, Jet. Crawl out.
- [176:08]
AJ Hawk
I can hold it for the rest of the day. And he's still holding it like a yard gnome, just sitting underneath the thing.
- [176:19]
Boston Connor
Talk about having that bar on your spine.
- [176:21]
AJ Hawk
Exactly.
- [176:22]
Pat McAfee
That was like his workout, wasn't I? People would walk into the gym and they'd see him and he'd just be in the corner racking it.
- [176:29]
AJ Hawk
Right.
- [176:30]
Pat McAfee
How long has he been covering baseball?
- [176:33]
AJ Hawk
50 years. Yeah, 45 years. 50 years since Babe Ruth.
- [176:37]
Pat McAfee
Has he had the same voice the whole time?
- [176:39]
AJ Hawk
As long as I've known him, yeah.
- [176:44]
Pat McAfee
How do you hit that? That's like rivalries with Coach Izzo yesterday. Yeah.
- [176:49]
AJ Hawk
You just got to dig down in there and find it.
- [176:52]
Pat McAfee
Cuz it's worthy. Cuz he's an icon.
- [176:53]
AJ Hawk
Exactly. One of the goats.
- [176:55]
Pat McAfee
One of the goats. It's for him?
- [176:57]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
- [176:57]
Boston Connor
Hell yeah.
- [176:58]
Pat McAfee
What would he say in this moment right here? Just pat wing it back and fire.
- [177:04]
AJ Hawk
That son of a. Into the hoop?
- [177:06]
Pat McAfee
He would say that.
- [177:07]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [177:08]
Pat McAfee
Would say son of a.
- [177:09]
AJ Hawk
He would. He's a. He's a fiery fella.
- [177:13]
Pat McAfee
Shot to him. Shot the baseball. Shout out to the 25 people that win 500 bucks if I make this throw. Oh. Oh. All right. One shot. This is for the Indiana Pacers. Okay. Who have been dancing with destiny, seemingly becoming a team that has been blessed by the basketball gods in the second half of this particular season, obviously. A few weeks ago, we remember Tyrese Halliburton hitting the shot of the year and 14 point play to beat the Bucs. Well, how about last night against the Minnesota Timberwolves? Obviously, Tyrese is out. Mathurin's out. We got TJ McConnell and the boys battling on the road. Take it to the rack. TJ Makono, Yinzer. Give me that. And then Obie Toppin just goes second best shot of the year. Maybe best shot of the year candidate from the corner. Just like Tyrese. Somebody in his face. Splash. We win. You lose in overtime. Don't look now. The Pacers are getting hot. Now they got to get healthy. They gotta. They certainly have to do the. Yeah, but the Pacers have maybe a team of destiny. Field with these shots falling for them at very, very key, important times. We cannot underestimate that whenever it's going forward. Knicks, Celtics, Cavs.
- [178:31]
Boston Connor
You don't have to say the Knicks.
- [178:33]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [178:34]
Boston Connor
No, you don't have to say.
- [178:35]
Pat McAfee
So the east is Celtics, Cavs and Pacers. Yeah. Knicks are in third.
- [178:40]
Boston Connor
Yeah, they're in safely in third.
- [178:42]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So I did my research. Yeah.
- [178:44]
Darius Butler
Oh yeah, no, no, the standings.
- [178:45]
Seth Greenberg
You're right.
- [178:46]
Pat McAfee
Right.
- [178:46]
Darius Butler
But the team like they don't have.
- [178:47]
Pat McAfee
Knicks just can't beat anybody. Good. Yeah. Oh, they got no Quad one wins.
- [178:50]
Darius Butler
Write us off.
- [178:51]
Pat McAfee
Write us off. We won't. We won't write back. You already have.
- [178:54]
Boston Connor
The good thing is Carl Anthony Towns always delivers when the pressure's on. The.
- [178:58]
Pat McAfee
They just beat the Heat last night. They just beat the Heat last night.
- [179:00]
Boston Connor
Heat are 4:19 in their last 23. But the Pacers are playing their best ball at the most important time. So that is huge for them going into the playoffs.
- [179:08]
Pat McAfee
I still believe in the Knicks, Bruce. Just strictly because of the battle last year with the Pacers that I paid very close attention to. I. They got a lot of moxie over there. I don't know if they're going to be able to survive. That was kind of the conversation last year and now they're playing more minutes. But I do like the moxy of that Knicks team.
- [179:21]
Evan Fox
We'll be healthier this year, but it.
- [179:22]
AJ Hawk
Is certainly a work in progress and.
- [179:24]
Pat McAfee
Have not beaten, you know, the Celtics.
- [179:26]
Boston Connor
The Cavaliers, the Thunder, the Warriors.
- [179:28]
Pat McAfee
The. We have beaten the Pacers.
- [179:30]
Boston Connor
I think we're two and one against the Pacers.
- [179:32]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Don't love that. How many Quad one wins? We got a couple.
- [179:36]
Boston Connor
A bunch.
- [179:38]
Pat McAfee
Certainly. Cavs are the team, right? Yeah.
- [179:40]
Boston Connor
Cavs and Thunder are like head and shoulders above everybody in the regular season.
- [179:44]
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah. I've seen OKCs been on prime time the last couple few times here in the last few years.
- [179:48]
Boston Connor
They're both already north of 50 wins. They both already clinched the playoff berth, I believe. So it's them two like one seeds locked in home court and everything. But we'll see.
- [179:58]
Pat McAfee
And what did Sean said about a week. When was that? Two days ago, three days ago. He's got another week left for LeBron. Yeah, he said that Sunday. Yeah. So that's a big deal the week for LeBron because them obviously. And Luca's going crazy. Austin Reeves going crazy. Austin. They got some exciting whites over there. The Los Angeles Lakers.
- [180:15]
Boston Connor
Stalin connect.
- [180:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Is he back obviously? I believe so. He's been playing because he was the NBA Is not. Hey, I'll turn on a game.
- [180:24]
Evan Fox
Yeah. If you find yourself like, my kids love watching the. The Warriors. They don't kick off till 10pm usually because it's out there. But yeah, man, I. I enjoy watching them. I enjoy watching, watching the Lakers. Like whatever game is on. If you actually pay attention, it's like, oh, this is pretty sweet.
- [180:38]
Pat McAfee
Jimmy Butler, his hair was sweet. I think they played last night on. Was it last night or two weeks ago? Russ triple double Ross is awesome to watch. He still doesn't really have a three point shot, but he is kind of court.
- [180:52]
Ty Schmidt
They let him.
- [180:55]
Pat McAfee
Joker was out last night. Jamal Murray was out last night. They still be the league or the Warriors. Russ was running there for the time that I was watching the game. It was awesome to see. I'm like, hell yeah. Russ love.
- [181:04]
Evan Fox
He plays so hard, man. Russ plays so hard. Like, I point to him like, hey, look, he may not make a bunch of outside shots, but this dude is moving all game.
- [181:11]
Pat McAfee
People are trying to make him a villain there for a while. That dude just loves ball.
- [181:14]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [181:14]
Boston Connor
The bug starts with March Madness. The basketball will continue to be great and then it'll roll right into NBA.
- [181:20]
Pat McAfee
Playoff Pacers winning the NBA title. Boom. It's on me. Oh, now. Oh, just short. All right. Another finals appearance. I guess that's the way it's going to go. Bonus ball, bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Turn left. Ball. No, it feels like we got a little. What, the undulation?
- [181:41]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, some undulation.
- [181:42]
Pat McAfee
What was that?
- [181:43]
AJ Hawk
I don't know.
- [181:44]
Pat McAfee
You see, I think. Speaking of undulation, the masters is happening soon. Oh, body day after big night. The master start and they put out a video this morning and it is. Hey. Celebrating the history of the course. Great video. All the magical moments are there and how pumped all the patrons get and how everybody is not allowed to have their phone out. It's like that's a thing that I hope just. And I think it will, obviously, but I hope everybody continues to, you know, treat it as such. Yeah, Yeah. I may have got to golf here before. It's pretty wild. I. I mean, I suck at golf. It would have been much more fun if I was better at golf, but I got a chance to see a lot of the shots that people fucked up on. Yeah, yeah. Okay. In the pine trees here. Okay. Hey. Back in the woods here. Okay. Hey, this is where, you know, Rory went with his drive. Now he was able to ba, ba, ba. You know, and I stayed in the woods for a night or two.
- [182:39]
AJ Hawk
Sure.
- [182:40]
Pat McAfee
But I'll tell you what. Down there I'd. Amen. No. Lived on a couple birdie, but you know, you gotta, you gotta really perform at the time. But the place is beautiful. There is a, a sense of like greatness and tradition in the air, in the, the way that course is kept up. New trees coming in and out overnight, the greens being perfect, fairways perfect. Everything's just perfect, perfect. It's like that place is cared for. And I think the golf world really appreciates it. Can't wait to watch that. The players got me pretty excited. Did not like that it carried in a Monday. No. You know, the rain delay kind of sucks. But that's Florida, you know, it's going to rain in Florida. That's kind of how it works. So it not finishing on Sunday, I think was not great. I think it going into Monday morning kind of lost the sizzle, you know, almost. And I don't want to say this because I think soccer has an opportunity. Had a soccer feeling on Sunday, like, okay, the guy's tied now they're gonna play Monday morning. It's like, all right.
- [183:38]
AJ Hawk
And we all knew what was gonna happen on Monday, but we still had to watch.
- [183:41]
Pat McAfee
Spawn even knew.
- [183:41]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, he did.
- [183:42]
Darius Butler
We did.
- [183:42]
Pat McAfee
Spawn. Even Rory McElroy said he watched a little devil's wear PR. Devil wears Prada, ordered some room service and went to bed. He woke up 3am he said so. He said he hadn't been nervous in a while. So Rory was a little nervous, he said, for that entire thing. I couldn't even imagine Spawn, you know, Rory's been there, done that. Rory openly admitted, like, yeah, very nervous. And I think Spawn saw that for the first time during the press conference. He was watching in the back. He was like, I thought it was going to be short and that thing just kept floating. He said it's like that juiced up. You know, you get juiced up in those moments, everything's a little bit different. Especially when everything comes like how hard you hit something. It's crazy. Yeah.
- [184:16]
Darius Butler
He said, he said in that when he was watching the pre press conference, he almost yelled go like because he thought it was going to be so short and like when the wind's like that and you got a 10 foot area to hit. That tournament. Yeah, it's finished. Not finished on Sunday was tough, but we're officially in it. We're in a good spot here. As far as sports. Sports right now.
- [184:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think offseason sports, we're all in.
- [184:33]
Boston Connor
Oh yeah, go for us.
- [184:39]
Evan Fox
You Guys know Coop is bashing dudes faces in. In Righteous Gemstones the show.
- [184:44]
Pat McAfee
I heard he had a spectacular performance. I saw a lot of commercials for Righteous Gemstones. Feels like they're really promoting this.
- [184:50]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [184:51]
Pat McAfee
Happy it's back. Shout out to Kenny Powers and squad. Yeah. Cooper's in the first episode, right? Yep.
- [184:56]
Darius Butler
Colonial foot soldier.
- [184:57]
Evan Fox
I've seen some of it. Yeah, man. He's a. He's ruthless. He's doing great.
- [185:01]
Pat McAfee
Well, Cooper will do what you need him to do.
- [185:02]
Boston Connor
Hell, yeah.
- [185:03]
Pat McAfee
That's why he's an artist. That's why he's an artist. You know you need him. Give a speech, rally boys, right before the Super Bowl.
- [185:09]
AJ Hawk
He'll do it.
- [185:10]
Pat McAfee
No problem.
- [185:10]
Darius Butler
Yep, no problem.
- [185:11]
Pat McAfee
No problem. You need him be in the suite talking to the owner when everything's looking a little sketchy. No problem. Need him in the post super bowl party, bringing the vibes. He'll do it. If you need a cheesesteak, he'll cook it himself.
- [185:28]
AJ Hawk
That's right.
- [185:28]
Evan Fox
He's making it.
- [185:29]
Pat McAfee
That's Bradley Cooper. What the hell he's doing? I haven't talked to him. I think he's very busy.
- [185:33]
Evan Fox
Where's his bread? Where's his bread from? I would imagine the bread is a huge part of that.
- [185:36]
Pat McAfee
Philly. He gets it from Philly. So, like, the place that he used to eat at. I don't know if it's Danny's or the place that he used to eat at in Philly. They were shipping him. Remember that, what he said?
- [185:45]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [185:46]
Pat McAfee
And he would be cooking it himself. So then he made it a thing. So it's probably considered a franchise or offshoot of that particular. I tried to do a Rudy's there for a bit just because I wanted their Italian sub. Okay. How do I get you guys? Just to ship me the ingredients, and then I'll cook it myself. And then once we. Here's Bradley Cooper. Righteous episode. He looks. Yeah, he's.
- [186:05]
Darius Butler
There is a company that does that for restaurants.
- [186:08]
Pat McAfee
Belly something. Belly.
- [186:09]
Darius Butler
What?
- [186:09]
Pat McAfee
It is Golden Belly.
- [186:11]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, it sounds. That sounds right.
- [186:13]
Pat McAfee
Gold Belly. Yeah.
- [186:14]
Darius Butler
I've never used it, but.
- [186:16]
Pat McAfee
Great. My wife gets, like, hams from places in, like, New York this. And, like, you can get some Texas this, and it shows up with the. What's the cold ice?
- [186:26]
AJ Hawk
Dry ice.
- [186:27]
Pat McAfee
The dry ice. It's like the whole thing. Yeah, it's a good. I think that's a good app. I think it's only for big things. Situations, though.
- [186:33]
Darius Butler
Makes sense.
- [186:33]
Pat McAfee
Is Rudy's on Gold Belly?
- [186:35]
Seth Greenberg
Should be.
- [186:36]
Darius Butler
Should be.
- [186:38]
Pat McAfee
Come On Nick. Why don't you call him and tell them get on gold belly. Can you do that? They need to. They make a killing just in this office. Absolutely. All right. Let's get the hell out of here. What a day. Today. The madness begins tonight. Aj who are you picking in these games? Let's do this. Yep.
- [186:53]
Evan Fox
Yep.
- [186:54]
Pat McAfee
Let's do this. I'm picking Alabama state to beat St. Francis and I'm picking San Diego State State to beat UNC because basketball gods are going to do it thing.
- [187:05]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
- [187:06]
Pat McAfee
Who do you guys.
- [187:07]
Evan Fox
I will take. I will take Alabama State to win and I will also take North Carolina.
- [187:12]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Just. We'll take favorites, the whole chalk.
- [187:15]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [187:17]
Evan Fox
Point favors.
- [187:18]
Pat McAfee
Let me guess. Tomorrow you want American. Okay, you got it. And we'll give you Xavier too.
- [187:22]
Evan Fox
No, I'll take Mount St. Mary's and Xavier tomorrow.
- [187:24]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I'm gonna take American University for sure. Just strictly because I know what is that. I don't know what America University is, but it sounds like a place.
- [187:31]
Darius Butler
They're good ball club.
- [187:32]
Pat McAfee
Very good this year. Okay. Yeah, of. Of course they are. I'm just learning of them would like American University do well especially now we need them. Okay. So I'm going to pick that. What? I'll save my picture tomorrow. Sure. AJ said he's picking an underdog tomorrow though. Maybe. We don't know if that's true.
- [187:46]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, doubt it.
- [187:48]
Evan Fox
I'll stick with him. Is that where Sister Jean is she Mount Saint Mary's?
- [187:50]
Pat McAfee
No, Loyola Texas is live there tomorrow. Three and a half. What's the one where everybody's hammering? There's one where a lot of people feel good about it. I got a text from. I don't know if I'm on a list or something. I got a stu Finer text message and he. He. He basically teased. Let me see the wording that he sent. I talked to Stew in years. So Colorado State is favored by two and a half and they're a 12 seed against the five. Okay. Memphis is the five. There's a game on Friday that is lineage wager. Hashtag be advised. Lineage. That is a lineage wager is what I was just told. So hilarious text to get. I don't know if that's a tease. Like am I going to get. So am I getting a follow up on Friday? Okay.
- [188:37]
Boston Connor
You probably pay for the. For the follow up.
- [188:40]
Pat McAfee
Colorado State. Memphis is on Friday. So that might be it. Everybody seems to be on Colorado State.
- [188:47]
Evan Fox
We'll see what Steph just said. Pennies has the boys rolling though.
- [188:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I love that Memphis team. I don't understand how their dogs against a 12 is a 5 seed. But have you seen much of Colorado State? Not too much, no. I've watched a lot of Memphis, though.
- [189:00]
Boston Connor
I like Memphis. Not supposed to understand. This is March.
- [189:06]
AJ Hawk
This is March.
- [189:07]
Pat McAfee
It isn't anarchy. It's just.
- [189:11]
Boston Connor
Okay. Yep.
- [189:12]
Pat McAfee
Basketball. Yep.
- [189:13]
Boston Connor
College basketball. That.
- [189:15]
Evan Fox
Yep.
- [189:15]
AJ Hawk
Shout out to Johnny Rothstein.
- [189:18]
Boston Connor
Oh, okay. Yes.
- [189:21]
Pat McAfee
What? You don't know the Rostein we know.
- [189:23]
Boston Connor
No, I do.
- [189:24]
Pat McAfee
I do. I.
- [189:24]
Boston Connor
Now I get the saying. I. I didn't.
- [189:26]
Pat McAfee
It's not anarchy. Yeah.
- [189:27]
Boston Connor
It's just college basketball. Yo, this is March.
- [189:30]
AJ Hawk
This is March.
- [189:31]
Pat McAfee
Well, it's January. February. March is.
- [189:34]
AJ Hawk
His wife said that he just walks around their place in New York just saying, this is March. This is March.
- [189:39]
Boston Connor
Yeah, Ross. So she'll just hear him saying to himself, like, in the bathroom, this is March. This is March. This is March. This is March.
- [189:48]
AJ Hawk
And she smacks him in the face. And then he. And stops for a second. Yeah. And then he'll do it again, like an hour later. Smack him in the face.
- [189:55]
Pat McAfee
Guy loves college ball. Yeah. His entire gimmick is Countdown to college ball.
- [190:00]
AJ Hawk
Correct.
- [190:00]
Pat McAfee
And then in college ball, we're in college ball. He loves it. And then he's on the show right before he was. Yep. What is. There's a reason he's so into it. I forget what it is. There's some coaching, maybe, that. I forget what it is.
- [190:12]
Darius Butler
True.
- [190:13]
Pat McAfee
He's been obsessed with it for a long time, though.
- [190:15]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. That and wrestling. I really like his two things. Because, remember, he. He just had, like, WrestleMania references from, like.
- [190:21]
Pat McAfee
He's in Jurassic park as well. Big Jurassic park fan. Really? You don't have time for a lot. Whenever. College basketball is 24 7. But not the newest one. What is the newest one?
- [190:30]
AJ Hawk
World.
- [190:30]
Boston Connor
Jurassic World.
- [190:31]
Pat McAfee
World, yeah.
- [190:31]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [190:32]
Pat McAfee
That one was kind of shy, right? With the bugs?
- [190:33]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. New one coming out again, though.
- [190:35]
Darius Butler
This one.
- [190:36]
Pat McAfee
Chris Pratten.
- [190:36]
Evan Fox
What?
- [190:37]
AJ Hawk
No, he's not. No, ScarJo. Scarlet Johansson, ScarJo.
- [190:40]
Darius Butler
And Mahersha Ali.
- [190:41]
AJ Hawk
Actually, the trailer was pretty solid.
- [190:43]
Pat McAfee
Is it Cicada's Catching On Fire?
- [190:44]
Darius Butler
I doubt it. The script was so good that Chris Pratt said. Chris Pratt said it's too good.
- [190:51]
AJ Hawk
No, it's Glenn Powell.
- [190:52]
Boston Connor
That's what it was.
- [190:53]
Darius Butler
Script's too good. I don't want to ruin it.
- [190:57]
AJ Hawk
That's not so. I mean, that's exactly what he said.
- [191:00]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [191:00]
AJ Hawk
He said the script is so good, I can't see myself. I can't see a role for myself in here.
- [191:05]
Pat McAfee
So Interesting. That's a hell of a way to turn down a role. I love that. That is something. I didn't know that happened. But maybe he just didn't think he fit in the movie. Does that take.
- [191:14]
Ty Schmidt
No.
- [191:14]
Evan Fox
Maybe he hates it. Maybe he thinks it's God awful.
- [191:17]
Pat McAfee
That's what I'm saying. That's a hell of a way to turn something down there. But also maybe he thinks it's going to be so good. Doesn't want this to be the rest of my life.
- [191:23]
AJ Hawk
Life could be that. Sometimes actors too are just.
- [191:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [191:25]
Evan Fox
Why would you want that?
- [191:26]
AJ Hawk
This just doesn't seem right for me. I don't want to do this.
- [191:28]
Pat McAfee
Some of these actors don't want to be just one character forever, brother.
- [191:31]
Evan Fox
You're right. But I mean they all want to get a. Get part of a franchise that you can make multiple movies and that's when you get the huge money.
- [191:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. In. I guess with Glenn Powell. He's supposed to be the next In Top Gun, right? Whenever it goes. Yeah.
- [191:43]
Evan Fox
I guess you don't want to be typecasted.
- [191:44]
Pat McAfee
That dress part guy.
- [191:45]
Evan Fox
I get it.
- [191:47]
Pat McAfee
I wouldn't mind being a. You know, I think it'd be cool to be dressed. Tone would love it.
- [191:52]
Darius Butler
I mean.
- [191:53]
Evan Fox
Yeah.
- [191:53]
Darius Butler
Dr. Grant did it for years and years and years. And Ellie. Ellie Sadler and all the.
- [191:57]
Pat McAfee
What's going on with the superheroes? We got any of those coming out anytime soon? What happened to them? There was a little bit not. Whoa.
- [192:04]
Evan Fox
What super. I mean, what is a superhero movie? I haven't seen. I. I speak out of ignorance because I have not seen any of them.
- [192:10]
Pat McAfee
Well, you definitely saw the Avengers thing.
- [192:12]
Evan Fox
You definitely saw which one of the Avengers.
- [192:15]
Pat McAfee
So that was the only one I watched. If you do recall, this is a few years back. I knew none of the actual superheroes, but I watched the one where they all came together. That's the Avengers, right?
- [192:23]
Darius Butler
Correct.
- [192:24]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Marvel Avengers, I believe was the movie. Had no idea the backstory of any of them. Okay. And that was a little bit of a. That was interesting thing. I actually tweeted along while I was watching it complimenting some of these people and obviously I guess it was all very well known shit. But I had a. Quite an experience. I mean it was a fantastic movie. I mean.
- [192:43]
Evan Fox
Oh, you enjoyed it? Oh, okay.
- [192:44]
Pat McAfee
Oh, I loved. I absolutely loved it. Endgame and then the next one. Yeah. I was asked, remember this whole thing. I was told that I knew the spoilers and I spoiled it because at the. I watched the Avengers. Only thing I ever Watched. And then I was asked down at super bowl radio row how I think endgame goes. And I was just like easy. This is an easy one to figure out. In the Avengers they were just trying to get the rocks. So you just get all the rocks and then you have all the power. That is the game. And then old buddy Iron man gets all the rocks, gets the. Does the thing. Like that was the entire movie. And that just felt like a very easy thing. I got these people attacking me. They were calling me a spoiler and saying that I ruined a movie and all this. I knew. I knew next to nothing about any of this shit. I'm just literally my thoughts after watching one movie. So I will say this, Nick. Super into the superheroes. I think Ty. I think you do not get into it.
- [193:36]
AJ Hawk
I used to be. I couldn't give two shits about it now.
- [193:38]
Pat McAfee
But I. There are people that like love it. And after watching that Avengers movie I understood. I'm like, this is the amount of money they spend on stuff. It was sweet. Like I really enjoyed it. But I guess a lot of them have done poorly, right? Isn't that kind of. Yeah, they replaced all the main original actors mostly. Pretty much cuz contracts run up and like you guys were talking about. People just got kind of tired of playing the same role for years and years. Years.
- [194:00]
Darius Butler
They made all their money.
- [194:00]
Pat McAfee
They did all these movies and so they tried to turn it over to like newer, younger, different actors. That has not hit in the same. So it's a next generation of all these superheroes has kind of become the issue pretty much. Yeah. There's a couple of them that like Chris Hemsworth still does some stuff from time to time and he's got some other.
- [194:18]
Evan Fox
He's great.
- [194:18]
Pat McAfee
He's. The guy plays Thor.
- [194:19]
Boston Connor
But like Spider man, even the last.
- [194:22]
Pat McAfee
Thor movie didn't do well there. I think everyone just got fatigued. Yeah. Cuz there was a bunch of them there. Boom. Bang down back though, huh?
- [194:29]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [194:29]
Pat McAfee
Robert Downey Jr's back as Iron Man. No, someone else. Who's the next Iron Man?
- [194:35]
AJ Hawk
I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if there will be. These used to be like events though. Like it'd be like there was one. One movie that was coming out a year and now there's. There's so much of it and there's like a new series all the time. Like I think they kind of just hit people over the head with it so much that people are like this. Like it's just too much. I. I Can't. You can't keep up with all of it anymore.
- [194:54]
Pat McAfee
All right, well, I hope it comes back for you, Nick. I do. I don't think it's gonna. Whoa. That's all right. We had it, you know, we had a good run there. All things must come to an end. He don't think it's ever coming back.
- [195:04]
AJ Hawk
I think you also get to a point where it's like, I'm 35. I don't really give a about this stuff anymore. You know, when I was 18, yeah, it was pretty cool seeing Iron man, you know?
- [195:15]
Pat McAfee
Now it's like, the storylines are great.
- [195:17]
AJ Hawk
I don't give a about this crap.
- [195:19]
Pat McAfee
This for the superhero of business.
- [195:21]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
- [195:21]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Holy. Yes.
- [195:28]
Boston Connor
Nice.
- [195:29]
Pat McAfee
A lot.
- [195:30]
AJ Hawk
Still a lot.
- [195:30]
Pat McAfee
Thank you.
- [195:31]
Darius Butler
That's huge.
- [195:31]
Pat McAfee
We got an opportunity. Even better at 37. All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. We'll see you tomorrow. Yeah. Team on me. Great work thus far, boys. We're off Thursday. Friday. Remember that. So tomorrow is a Friday. Attitudes shall reflect that. And we will launch into a March madness like you've never seen before. Team on three. One, two, three.
- [196:00]
Ty Schmidt
Team.
- [196:00]
Pat McAfee
Good night. In case you didn't know, these young men are driven.
- [196:05]
Ty Schmidt
They are prodigies, the savants, the ones we've been waiting for.
- [196:09]
Pat McAfee
Like Damian Lillard, for instance.
- [196:10]
Ty Schmidt
He doesn't seek guidance or mentorship. He's a leader. He isn't waiting for the baton to.
- [196:14]
Pat McAfee
Be passed to him.
- [196:15]
Ty Schmidt
He's taking it for himself.
- [196:16]
Pat McAfee
He's relentless in a pursuit of greatness, always pushing to one up himself. He is accomplished, but far from satisfied. He embodies what it means to have an unstoppable drive and are shaking up the status quo in their community and beyond. And Damian Lillard drives a Toyota.
- [196:30]
Ty Schmidt
A new generation of Toyota drivers are.
- [196:32]
Pat McAfee
Here, and they want you to know one thing. You can't stop my drive.