PMS 2.0 1312 - Rece Davis, Greg Sankey, Daniel Jeremiah, Gable Steveson, Darius Butler, & Ian Rapoport LIVE In The ThunderDome

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Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show – PMS 2.0 1312

Episode Information:

• Title: PMS 2.0 1312 - Rece Davis, Greg Sankey, Daniel Jeremiah, Gable Steveson, Darius Butler, & Ian Rapoport LIVE In The ThunderDome
• Host: Pat McAfee
• Guests: Rece Davis, Greg Sankey, Daniel Jeremiah, Gable Steveson, Darius Butler, Ian Rapoport
• Release Date: March 24, 2025

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Introduction: Pat McAfee Hosts from Glasgow

• Timestamp [00:00]: The episode kicks off with Ian Rapoport introducing himself as the temporary host in Pat McAfee's absence.
• Timestamp [00:35]: Pat joins via split screen from Glasgow, Scotland, sharing his experiences in the city, including a delightful breakfast at Cafe Sono and a fresh haircut from a talented Syrian-Kuwaiti barber, Tyler.
• Highlight Quote:
  • Pat McAfee [00:42]: “Glasgow is lovely. I've been waltzing around this town all morning, getting a lay of the land.”

March Madness: SEC Dominance and Tournament Insights

• Timestamp [03:12]: Boston Conner discusses the disappointing performance of underdog bets in college basketball, highlighting a 13-44 record in underdog moneyline bets.
• Timestamp [04:19]: Darius Butler shares excitement over Daniel Hurley's UConn team, despite their exit, praising Hurley’s competitive nature.
• Timestamp [09:00]: Pat McAfee contrasts college basketball's chaotic moments with the NBA, emphasizing the unique thrill of March Madness.
• Highlight Quote:
  • Darius Butler [04:22]: “I love that type of moxie. I love that type of juice in the huddle and then backing it up.”

SEC Performance and Coach Greg Sankey’s Victory Lap

• Timestamp [20:15]: Daniel Jeremiah expresses concerns about SEC teams playing slow-paced basketball but remains optimistic about future Cinderella stories.
• Timestamp [50:47]: Greg Sankey, SEC Commissioner, joins the show to discuss the SEC's impressive performance with seven teams in the Men's Sweet 16.
• Highlight Quote:
  • Greg Sankey [50:50]: “It's reality. You put it at risk. If there's nothing at risk competitively, like, why would people be interested?”

NFL Quarterback Landscape: Aaron Rodgers and the Vikings

• Timestamp [45:47]: Discussion shifts to Aaron Rodgers’ visit to the Pittsburgh Steelers and potential reasons behind it.
• Timestamp [64:42]: Ian Rapoport delves into the Minnesota Vikings' quarterback situation, contemplating J.J. McCarthy’s role versus Ryan Tannehill as a backup.
• Highlight Quote:
  • Ian Rapoport [64:45]: “I think most teams that are contending and have a large number of players who have moved up, they have to ensure they get the best quarterback.”

Bengals’ Contract Strategies and Player Acquisition

• Timestamp [72:12]: Discussion about the Bengals' proactive approach in signing key players like Jamal Adams and Jamar Chase, emphasizing their commitment to building a strong roster.
• Timestamp [73:14]: Ian Rapoport highlights the importance of drafting well, especially when investing heavily in top-tier players.
• Highlight Quote:
  • Pat McAfee [73:14]: “They lock up their guys really early because they're smart. It’s an awesome way to prove that you’ll spend money on your people.”

Personal Anecdotes: Beards, Travel, and Banter

• Throughout the Episode: The hosts engage in light-hearted banter about beards, Pat’s experiences in Scotland, and humorous interactions with Ian Rapoport.
• Highlight Quote:
  • Pat McAfee [46:08]: “He looks very athletic, very cool, very calm. That's very nice baseball.”

Interview with Gable Steveson: Reflections and Future Plans

• Timestamp [104:23]: Gable Steveson discusses his recent match, expressing disappointment over his loss but emphasizing his passion for wrestling and future endeavors in MMA.
• Highlight Quote:
  • Gable Steveson [105:58]: “I've always wanted to go out there and give one last good push for the University of Minnesota.”

Closing Discussions: Draft Speculations and Future Moves

• Timestamp [164:12]: The conversation turns to NFL draft strategies, with speculations about team movements, quarterback trades, and the Bengals’ approach to maintaining a competitive edge.
• Timestamp [174:51]: Banter continues with humorous exchanges about Pat's interactions and team strategies.
• Highlight Quote:
  • Boston Conner [171:27]: “My perfect draft for the Patriots is they take a Hunter or Jinty or Tyler Warren or something at four and then trade back in to take one of those top pass rushers.”

Advertisements and Sponsor Messages

• Timestamp [15:01], [56:04], [58:30], [124:10]: The episode includes advertisements for Prizepix Daily Fantasy Sports, LinkedIn Ads, and Harbor Freight Tools. These segments are brief and separate from the main content.

Conclusion: Final Thoughts and Sign-Off

• Timestamp [177:00]: The hosts wrap up the show with final thoughts on March Madness, NFL dynamics, and personal anecdotes, maintaining the show's signature humorous and informal tone.
• Highlight Quote:
  • Pat McAfee [177:17]: “It was a fantastic day as something pops up on my screen. There you are.”

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Notable Quotes:

1. Pat McAfee [00:42]: “Glasgow is lovely. I've been waltzing around this town all morning, getting a lay of the land.”
2. Darius Butler [04:22]: “I love that type of moxie. I love that type of juice in the huddle and then backing it up.”
3. Greg Sankey [50:50]: “It's reality. You put it at risk. If there's nothing at risk competitively, like, why would people be interested?”
4. Pat McAfee [73:14]: “They lock up their guys really early because they're smart. It’s an awesome way to prove that you’ll spend money on your people.”
5. Gable Steveson [105:58]: “I've always wanted to go out there and give one last good push for the University of Minnesota.”
6. Darius Butler [171:27]: “Yeah. That contract is going to be yikes.”

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This episode of The Pat McAfee Show offers a deep dive into the intricacies of college basketball's March Madness, the SEC's surprising dominance, and the evolving landscape of NFL quarterbacks. Alongside insightful discussions on team strategies and draft predictions, the show maintains its hallmark humor and relatable banter, making it both informative and entertaining for listeners.

Transcript

[Ian Rapoport]

Welcome to the Thunderdome. I am not Pat McAfee, but do not adjust your sets. This is actually real and it is actually happening.

[Pat McAfee]

Crushed it.

[Ian Rapoport]

I told Pat before the show that I would nail it and I did. Yep. I am Ian Rapoport, also known as Rap Sheet, and I am Hosting the Pat McAfee show today in place of Pat. We don't know where Pat is. He is in another country, Parts unknown is how it was described to me. But I am told he is joining us right now.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm splitting the screen with you. Yeah, yeah, I'm putting the screen with you.

[Ian Rapoport]

I'm just saying I don't know where you are right now. It could be anywhere.

[Pat McAfee]

Hi, Pat, I'm in Glasgow, Scotland. Look to your right. It's right above my picture on the big screen. Yeah, it says in Glasgow, dirty. Probably piece that together. Hey, great work back there, boys. Great work back there, boys.

[Ian Rapoport]

How you doing?

[Pat McAfee]

I'll tell you what, rap. I've never been in Scotland. This is my first time over here. And obviously we have Monday Night Raw here tonight on Netflix. I believe it kicks off 4:00pm Eastern, 8:00 local. Only a four hour time zone difference, as opposed to, you know, some places in Europe that are like five, six hours. And I'll tell you what, Glasgow is lovely. I've been waltzing around this town all morning, kind of getting a lay of the land, seeing some things. Had a nice breakfast at Cafe Sono. My guy, Fahey from Turkey, this spot was unbelievable. And, you know, Fahi didn't speak a lot of English and I don't think he understood everything I was saying, but I pointed at Scottish breakfast and he knew exactly what I wanted. Even gave me some extra fried eggs. So shout out to Faheed and his mom, a wonderful Turkish duo that run Cafe Sono underneath the train station here in Glasgow. That's him cooking right there for me this morning. As soon as I got into town. Then I waltzed around, you know, got a chance to get my hair. Did you know, I got my hair cut by a guy named Tyler who was Syrian. Okay, he was Syrian, but he learned how to cut hair in Kuwait from his father when he was 13. And I got the fade in Scotland. So I don't know if this is a Syrian f Kuwaiti fade or a Scottish fade. Nonetheless, this guy was an artist. We're talking about a magician with the scissors. And his guy Steve in the shop was also fantastic as well. I walked around, maybe met some guilt makers, maybe kings and kilts. Yeah, shook some hands, got a chance to meet the Scottish folks and the sun was shining over here in Glasgow because it's a wonderful day. Rapaport, thank you so much for traveling to Indianapolis. Obviously it's great to see you back there with the lads and what a perfect day for you to be here. Obviously not because the NFL is the topic of conversation, even though we'll have Daniel Jeremiah in the next hour, but because sports are popping off in a big way, especially for degenerate booze bags like you. March Madness. More like March Sadness Rap in my right boys, boys talk to table at Boston Conner at Ty Schmidt, 1/2 of the hammer nail down Cowboys AP tone and 9 year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. Let's start with the toxic table. Start with the toxic table. Con man, I know you bet every single underdog. Sorry about it bud. It's been a rough couple days for you. What is your takeaway? What is your thoughts on the weekend that was in college hoops?

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, it was a fantastic weekend. Overall 13 and 44 were the underdog Moneyline Bets. So yeah, you could say we didn't do too well. But we actually kicked it off in a fantastic fashion at what is it Pins Mechanical company on Thursday got properly boozed up, a crack was had if you will. But you know, as much as it stinks with the no Cinderellas and I know the conversation this morning has been, you know, Cinderella's dead. Nil is going Cinderella forever. I don't know about that. I more so think, you know, looking ahead is where the, you know, madness is really going to be had, where these 14 matchups, some of the, you know, three verse two matchups are going to be incredible. Arkansas is kind of the only double digit seed that has made it and even there with Cal Pari, with them being one of the seven SEC teams in the Sweet six team, it does feel as though it's going to be a great close to the tournament. But yeah, it's sad. You know, everyone likes to see an underdog likes to see a Cinderella. And personally I want to see some buzzer beaters and immediately, as soon as we do finally get a buzzer beater, everyone starts bitching about a travel.

[Ian Rapoport]

Traveling is real.

[Boston Conner]

Nah, nah, travel is not real.

[Pat McAfee]

Hold on and listen. First of all, I think if you were to slow that down, D Butts, I think he takes a dribble. This dude's 6 foot 10. Yeah, obviously he's a freshman from Baltimore, which we learned. But the story behind this dude being asked during the timeout right before this, who wants the ball? And he says, give me the motherfucking ball. I mean, what an answer, D. But I'm a Maryland Terrapin fan going forward now that the Johnny's are out strictly because of this dude.

[Darius Butler]

I don't know if I'm a Terp fan with you, but I love that type of moxie. I love that type of juice in the huddle and then backing it up and actually getting the bucket. I believe Gene Stertor gave the explanation after the play as to why it wasn't a travel thing. They call it a gather step. We know traveling isn't real on the big time basketball level, but that's an unbelievable play. A great shot going to his left, fading away, Getting that touch off the glass was a beautiful buzzer beater to a great, great game. Now my Huskies, they got knocked off yesterday. Great battle with the Florida game.

[Ian Rapoport]

Took it well, Took it real well.

[Darius Butler]

Dan Hurley, of course he took it like, like a championship. I like my losers to be sore losers. So you got to take the good.

[Ian Rapoport]

Of the bat for that dude.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, why wouldn't I?

[Ian Rapoport]

I'm just saying.

[Darius Butler]

Back to back, natural chair.

[Ian Rapoport]

Well, he's a great coach. No, he's a great coach. I'm just saying. Minutes, Pat, minutes at like seconds after he knows cameras are in the tunnel.

[Darius Butler]

Right, of course.

[Ian Rapoport]

And, and this is what I mean. It's the refs. Hey. What?

[Pat McAfee]

Rap. Hey, Rap. Listen, listen. Rap. You and your journalist committee have decided that this isn't how a guy's supposed to act. This is not how a coach is supposed to act. How about Dan Hurley gets to decide how Dan Hurley acts? Guy wins back to back national championships. The boys absolutely love them. But I understand you journalists don't like a super competitive coach. You know. Let's go to the super bowl real quick. Nick Sirianni, you. You and your journalist friends got a lot to say about how he operates. But the boys love him, you know, I appreciate that. D. Hurley is always Dan Hurley. Rap. Did you hear what he said though, afterwards, whenever he was talked, when he talked about where he is now versus where he has been the last couple years and talking about the scrutiny and everything. And he said he's going to readjust, refresh, reset this offseason, get back to coaching. I think there is a chance we see a different Dan Hurley going forward. But I don't think it's a bad thing that he acts differently than everybody else because he always does it. He's always a psychopath.

[Ian Rapoport]

Rap.

[Pat McAfee]

And the boys know it and the boys love it.

[Ian Rapoport]

So the Sirianni sort of corollary is a good one, I think, because, like, you know, look is in the, in the head coaching manual. Is there a page for like, trash talking your own fans? Probably not would be my guess.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, because the guy wanted to run the ball.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, I get it. But I'm saying they love him so much in the locker room that it's sort of like that's the currency. Right? Like, so, like, did I love to see Danny Hurley or Dan Hurley, as he's now become known, like, tossed, trash talking the refs after? Probably not. But you know that his guys are like, that's my guy. And I think that's the most. I mean, that that's the real stuff, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

You're looking for Daniel Hurley. That's what you would like.

[Boston Conner]

Yes.

[Ian Rapoport]

None of this Daniel, Dan. I'm looking for Daniel. Correct. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I wonder if he had the dragon underwear on. Tone, have we got to the bottom of that? Was he wearing the same skibbies as he was the last two years? Maybe that's part of the problem.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm not positive, but I know. All I know is in the gambling world, Dan Hurley is. Is the goat.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

He covered 14 straight. Has covered 14 straight tournament games. That, that run is still going now. He won 13 straight until the close loss against the number one Florida Gators. But in the gambling world, you can always trust Dan Hurley just like his boys can. And if he's firing, he go, listen, basketball. That's how basketball coaches are.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like, I have never met a basketball coach in my entire life that isn't just an absolute psychopath like our, our high school basketball coach off the court, great guy, nicest history teacher of all time. Shout out Ron Richards on the basketball court in practice. Absolute psychopath. That's just who basketball coaches are.

[Darius Butler]

I love it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they kind of have to be, I think, to kind of rally everybody and, you know, because you need every single ounce of energy, every single possession, because you never know what's going to happen. And I will say that's another thing about these college hoops. I did forget about how chaotic some of these moments of basketball. I mean, we're talking air balls, we're talking throwing layups through the backboard. We're talking about passing it out of bounds, dribbling out of bounds. We're talking about some madness still happening on the court. But dbuts, my question for you is, you know, obviously we follow the NBA a little bit closer and I don't want to give anything away. LeBron James is going to be on the show this week.

[Ian Rapoport]

Why today?

[Pat McAfee]

Just not. Not. He said he didn't want to come on when your dumb ass was on.

[Ian Rapoport]

That's actually fair.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't like that. Yeah, LeBron James. Yeah, he's going to be on this week. And we follow the NBA. We don't follow college hoops as much. Indeed. But obviously you do with the Yukon Huskies, obviously, being who they are. But I forgot about the style of basketball that college hoops is. It is vastly different. And I think that is something that I enjoy every single March Madness. And I'll tell you what, if you. If you get cold, you can lose quick. That's St. John's team. And obviously Pitino dog. And he was surrounded by a lot of people that were all in, you know, whenever he went and saw his kid coach. But whenever you talk about what Calipari has been able to do with his Arkansas team, and then St. John's getting ice cold. It's like whoever gets hot at the right time wins this whole damn thing. D Bucks. And I think that's what's special about this March Madness every single year.

[Darius Butler]

That's why we love it. That's why we all become college basketball experts around this time of year. Always in a kind of a neutral site. So nobody really has the full real home court advantage. So I love that part of it. And like Connor was talking about earlier, usually there is an underdog story. There is a Cinderella story, a player or a team or a coach that just kind of takes, you know, the college basketball world, the sports world by storm right now. Should we got all. All the top seeds still remaining on each and all four. I'm excited to see how it ends up. Cooper flag him being the, you know, we all assume he'll leave and become the number one pick. They've been dominant, Florida's been dominant. Auburn, everybody's doing their thing, man. So I'm excited how this is kind of when I was telling Connor before the show. Sweet 16 outside of my team, outside of UConn, this is when I really dial in. This is really, really when the games. Everybody's watching the games, everybody's excited. But it is a completely different sport than the NBA game. The NBA game is different. This one is much slower half court. Who can get stops, who can have the ball in their hands and get a finish, make a big play down the stretch. So I'm excited about how this thing's gonna finish out every it feels like.

[Pat McAfee]

Every team has a dog as a guy, you know, and gotta have it.

[Ian Rapoport]

There's.

[Pat McAfee]

There's a lot gotten. They got a guy in this guy right here. I mean. Oh, Duke. And listen, we didn't. I thought McWhite guy up at Yukon was potentially going to be the exciting white of college basketball. Okay, I. I did think that was gonna be the case. I didn't pay close enough attention to Cooper Flag. What a fun. I mean, he re. He re. Whatever. He's supposed to be a senior, I think in high school. He's supposed to be seen in high school, this guy, and obviously what he's able to do. And his dad's a basketball player. And the high school baske. A story they told during the kickoff show. And I got a chance to learn about him. I mean, he is special. And this Duke team, I mean, they. Yeah, they don't look like every Duke team I've seen in the past. Feels like Shire's team. A little bit different than Coach Case team. Might I say likable. I almost kind of like them. And I know that's not an easy thing for Duke. So congrats to them being as dominant as they have been. And how about January, February in azo. Sweet 16 again. Way to go foxy. Go green, buddy. Go white. Hell yeah. They didn't even play their best ball, especially last night. Best player on the team, Jace Richardson. He didn't score until about 3 minutes left in the game. Only had 6 points total in the game. They still were able to pull it off. That's how this team has been all season long. They got nine guys that all can play, that all can score. It's been awesome. I'm very, very happy for them to be in the sweet spot. Sweet 16. Oh, look, he's all choked up about. Jesus Christ.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm fired up.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, so go ahead.

[Ty Schmidt]

I would say. Did you. Did you notice he talked about, you know, Jason only scoring six points and what was the first thing that we saw Thursday when we were watching those games together? The ball looks a little overinflated, doesn't it?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Connor was yelling about it because we bet all the overs, you know, because we're on points. Right. You know what I mean? Right. We want. Let's celebrate both teams.

[Ian Rapoport]

Let's have fun.

[Pat McAfee]

By the way, shout out to pins. Mechanical. I think Mechanical pins. That place was.

[Ian Rapoport]

That's where you guys were headed on Thursday?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, dude.

[Ian Rapoport]

Good. I saw this. I follow you on Instagram. Look good.

[Pat McAfee]

It's very kind of you. Thanks for following along. We had a good time out there. You know, some would. Some would say talk was a little bit too high. We don't know where he got those because it's not necessarily legal in Indiana. He found some CBD that really took his ass to the moon. But we wanted to have a good time and we wanted to just see points, points, points. And then everything was. And it was out. Tony, I see some people been talking about this for years, about the NCAA maybe spiking these balls, double rim effect everywhere.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. There was a player who came out this. A few players who came out this year who said, you know, they have to adjust their shot potentially because of the overinflation of the ball. And then Dalton Connect was talking about it. This.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, yeah, the dark web. I have not gotten.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, it's on. Just the normal web.

[Ian Rapoport]

Really.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. X.com or whatever it is.

[Ian Rapoport]

I know.

[Pat McAfee]

I know that this is called research Rep.

[Ian Rapoport]

I've been researching for this moment. Right.

[Ty Schmidt]

He was boozed up all weekend. He admitted to us earlier.

[Boston Conner]

He did.

[Ty Schmidt]

Very boozed up all weekend.

[Pat McAfee]

So March Madness. How could he not be?

[Ian Rapoport]

I. So I stayed home. I sat in front of my TV to research this for this. Well, I wasn't home home. I was at a different. Someone else's home. Very nice in Montana. But I was. I watched. When I took a break from skiing, I watched homes. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

When I took a break from skiing and counting money, then I would watch these basketball games take place. And I appreciate you doing that for the good of the program. For the good of the program.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. I do it for you guys. And. And I am. I'm well researched. I know all the players on some of the teams I watched last night.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, who.

[Ian Rapoport]

At the game winner for Maryland, Derek Queen.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, good.

[Darius Butler]

Paul.

[Ian Rapoport]

And I mean, can I just. That's like four steps.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh.

[Boston Conner]

Four of your steps. Maybe one, two.

[Ian Rapoport]

Not entirely wrong. I mean, look, here's what I understand. If this happened in maybe six.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, yeah. Little. Yes. Especially if I get real excited.

[Pat McAfee]

Guy, 6, 10. Yeah. Guy, 6, 10. Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Right. Which I'm a small bit shorter than that.

[Pat McAfee]

4, 4, 10.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. This happens in football. This is the conversation all day long.

[Ty Schmidt]

There's no traveling in football.

[Ian Rapoport]

That's true. But there's other stuff that we all talk about. It's the Chiefs and this if it's the Chief. I mean, is this not the. And this is not the conversation today? It's a quick stereotor hit. It's fine. He was, you know, Maybe bobbling. I don't know. Was he. Was he not? Who knows? And then everyone's like, all right, moving on, and right. It's so. And I don't know why football's like this and this, but it is so different, Pat, the, like, level of ref scrutiny that happens. I mean, I've watched it 100 times and I've counted 65 steps.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, but you could, you could say, like, you could say that, like, traveling kind of equates, if we're doing the NFL comparison to like a hip drop tackle. Like, hip drop tackle barely got called, you know, last year when they said it was going to be a 15 yard penalty, but it didn't get called. People still did it.

[Pat McAfee]

And then go ahead. Sorry. No.

[Boston Conner]

And traveling is just like that. Sorry, you got.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Well, what I was going to say is the refs also heard that he said, give me the motherfucking ball.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So they said, you know what, we'll let this guy kind of have a basketball moment here. And I don't know if we have the press conference clip afterwards of him talking about his coach. He was basically, yeah, here it is. This is a beautiful moment here. And also a sign of current college ball.

[Gable Steveson]

Derek, I know you were saying you.

[Ian Rapoport]

Were kind of due this is your.

[Boston Conner]

First game winner ever or.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I would have given it to him if I had known that. Magical moment. He also said in that press conference, he was asked why the players were asked as a whole, why they respond to this particular coach so well. And Derek Queen's answer was like, I'll answer this. He goes, well, he paid us the.

[Ian Rapoport]

Money, first of all.

[Pat McAfee]

So, yeah, that's kind of the reason why, like, they almost said, like, we're working for this guy, like, he's the boss. And I kind of appreciate that that mindset is happening, you know, because we're in this modern college world where nil is happening and, you know, trusts are paying and schools are having to pay these players. And obviously it's a wild, wild west with the rules and when they can pay, when you can't pay, yada, yada, yada, you name it. But I appreciate the fact that it seems like the way they operate is like, hey, we're paying you the money. You work for us. Okay? And that's how they view it. Derrick Queen spoke for the team. He was like, he's the boss. He's the one paying us. He's a hard coach, I guess he's a players coach. He talks about him more than about life. It's like, and Derrick Queen saying, why are you that confident in him? Just saying, well, I'm from Baltimore for the Maryland team. I mean, it's like, that's a beautiful story. That could be, that could be the March story. I thought it was gonna be Colorado State. 3.7 seconds of magic and then Derrick Queen shoves it down our throat with a sick fundamental. Obviously, sweet 16 is going to be great. Can't wait to continue to watch that. Indianapolis is hosting a site More college basketball news. Ty. Congrats, dude. Wow.

[Gable Steveson]

Got our guy. Got our guy. Hey, listen, I, I, it got released yesterday that Iowa had basically come to terms with drake's coach, Ben McCollum. And because I didn't want to get burned again, I was, I kind of pumped the brakes a little bit. I was like, you know what? Not, I'm not going to pop the champagne until we actually get him. And then Pete Thamel today, he, he announced, hey, Iowa has agreed to terms with Ben McCollum, Iowa City Navy native and apparently, you know, West Virginia. I thought they might have been in on it, but yeah, but yeah, because he, Ren Baker was his athletic director at Northwest Missouri State. So they have ties together. Obviously what he's done, you know, he was only a Drake for one year, but they have their best year ever. But I mean, he was born in Iowa City, he played, you know, high school basketball in Iowa. It was dream job, you know, which is crazy because Iowa just seems to be the quote, unquote, dream job for so many guys. I guess, I guess you keep hearing that, but that's. No, it'll be crazy because I his style. Drake had the, they allowed the least points per game per possession of any team in the country this year. So, like, they play good defense, they kind of take the shot clock down to, you know, five or less, get a good quality shot every single time. And that is not what Iowa has been for the last 15 years. They run a bunch, they score a bunch of points, they don't play any defense. So it'll be very interesting to see, you know, kind of who stays, who goes, all that kind of stuff. But yeah, I couldn't be more ecstatic that Iowa got Ben McCollum.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I'm bummed out West Virginia was supposed to get him. Obviously he needs cut his hair if he's going to play Big 12 basketball. Big 10 basketball, Big 10 not messing around. Neither is the SEC, obviously. Seven teams still remaining. Greg Sankey will join us here in about 25 minutes or so to probably take A victory lap, you know, because after the first round they got buried because the Big Ten was 10 0. You know, the Big Ten was kind of doing their thing. SEC had losses and then teams end up in the sweet 16. So Sankey. Yeah, and he predicted that he thought it was going to be seven before the tournament started. So we will provide him an opportunity to take a victory lap. Go ahead, Rap. Have you. Do you know Sankey well?

[Ian Rapoport]

No, I met him briefly when I covered the sec, which I'm. My first question. I know we got a guest waiting so I want to get to. But I'll just say my first question to Sankey is going to be, do you remember me? And how sad are you that I left? But we'll get to that. We'll get to that in a sec. Go ahead, Pat.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, okay. Make it about you, Rep. I do respect that. Now joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who knows everything about everything happening in college sports. He knows college game day for football and for basketball. Ladies and gentlemen, the consummate professional, Reece. Dave.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I'm a little worried about, I'm a little worried about Ty though, because I mean, Iowa is going to play slow, slow, slow. But the guy does have four national championships. I love you. Got 14, two national championships.

[Pat McAfee]

So you know, hey, Reese, he's been watching Iowa football, brother. They play slow, slow, slow.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That's a great point.

[Pat McAfee]

I was hoping for that. I was hoping for that slow ass basketball to come to West Virginia, but they were. That wasn't the only hire. Xavier beats Texas, knocks him out of the tournament, coach gets hired there. How often is this the kind of musical chairs for coaches? This is kind of the status quo here. And how many more do you think we see before the end of this whole tournament race?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't think a lot more. I think most of the musical chairs have been filled. You were making a great point earlier about sort of acknowledging the realities of the system with the players with Derrick Queen and Kevin Willard. I think the same thing happened with NC State and Will Wade. You know, he told them straight up the idea was to get a powerful job and maybe there would be opportunities for them depending on how things went. And it's a very professionalized model. I think the thing about Sean Miller going from Xavier to Texas that's interesting is that Crystal Conti, the Texas athletic director, who I know you guys know, loves to, loves to make the big hire. Sean's been very successful both at Arizona and in both of his stints at Xavier, you know, kind of tough I'm sure from their standpoint, because Xavier extended him a lifeline. But hey, look, they, they knew if this opportunity came up, he was going to move on. And, and he did. And he'll, he'll do a great job at Texas. But I think, I think we're close to done because they. Most of the big mo, not all, obviously, but most of the big jobs are filled and I don't know that we'll have any more pop open right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Ooh, West Virginia. Still wide ass open, Reese.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay, that's why I said not. Not many. Not many. I said. There's obviously that one. Who do you want, Pat? I think you should. I think West Virginia. You want to bring back hugging, you brought back rich Rod, right?

[Boston Conner]

Not a bad idea.

[Pat McAfee]

A little sooner, a little different. I mean, 15 years, like a year and a half. I mean, there's, you know, there's different conversations for everybody. Whoever's going to win, we can't wait to see them get their thought. McCollum was coming, maybe that Calhoun fella, maybe Coach Fraser, who's already on the staff. I'm sure Ren will do it. Okay, let's move to the tournament itself as opposed to the coaches. Did we know that it was going to be heavily favored for the favorites? And Reese, a lot of people are saying nil and transfer portal and everything like that potentially killed Cinderella stories forever. Is that real or is this an overreaction, you think, to potentially what's happening right in front of us? Reese?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think that there is some truth to it, but I don't believe that it's killed it forever because the guys who are having opportunities to move up have to be at the other level at some point. And you're going to have the Cinderella teams that have veteran guys we've had in the past make runs. I mean, almost saw it with Colorado State last night. I think there will still be Cinderellas. I do think it will be maybe a bit more rare than it's been in the past, simply because, I mean, look, every, every team that's contending, virtually every team that's contending and that's a high seed, they have a large number of players who have moved up. And, you know, I think that's just the reality of where we are. I'm for it. All of us look for better opportunities in life and I don't have any problem with the players moving up too. But, you know, it probably does come at the expense of it will be rare to see multiple Cinderellas like make it to the sweet 16 or more rare than it's been in the past.

[Pat McAfee]

Go ahead, Rap.

[Ian Rapoport]

So one of the things we were talking about kind of coming in here, Reece, is Daniel Hurley, UConn coach, you know, went a little viral. Danny on the way. I appreciate the. Daniel on the way to the. On the way to the locker room, but, you know, look, it's a brief moment. It's probably the most memorable one here, but he's had a lot of memorable moments as UConn's coach. Now that they are out, can you help us appreciate the run that UConn's had over the last two into three years?

[Darius Butler]

Thank you, Rhett.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you, Rhett.

[Ian Rapoport]

Good one.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think it's one of the great runs in modern tournament history because it is so difficult to keep a team together, because if you have great young players, they go to the NBA. If you have great older players, somebody bids a lot more money, you have to manage your salary cap. Then you also have to deal with complacency, which is, as we've been told many times by people familiar to all of us, is the enemy of greatness. And they were able to. They were able to fight that off largely because of the force of Danny's personality. And he has to have his kind of guys playing for him. Not just anybody's going to be able to go and play at Connecticut for Dan Hurley. You got to have a little edge to you. You got to have a little bit of thick skin, and all of those guys want to be coached that way. And I was. I was not. I think Ford is the best team in the tournament. I do. And I was not at all surprised that they had to fight with every ounce of their being to take that away from UConn, because UConn wasn't going to hand it over for a second. As far as the aftermath, look, I mean, he is. He is the best coach in the game, in my judgment, but that's just him. He's going to do that stuff. He's going to have these fits of peak, you know, in the. In the moments afterward and feel like that he got hosed and all of this. So I'm not too bothered by it. I think he got a little bothered by some stuff I said earlier this year when, you know, he's lying on the floor and screaming the officials and stuff like that. But, you know, he'll get over it. He's a great coach.

[Ian Rapoport]

Did he say something to you?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

No. He sent word that he didn't appreciate it. So it's okay.

[Pat McAfee]

But I don't know. He sent a capo. He sent, like, one of his captains.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I don't think he sent word. I think he just shared it, and then it was shared with me. But it's okay. We're good. I think the world of him. I enjoy talking to him. I think he's. I think he's a fascinating dude, man. And I know he's a great coach. And, you know, he gets. You know, he gets mad. It's okay. And we all do sometimes.

[Pat McAfee]

Reese, you know, Rapaport came in here and he didn't know he was talking to a Dan Hurley. Friendly crowd. You know, he came in with his journalism degree.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Oh, really?

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't like the way Danny Hurley acts, you know, in this entire thing, and he is a bit much. And then we immediately went to Sirianni, who operates in his own fashion as well. If you can get the boys to buy in, who cares how yak? That's what coaching is all about, to bring out the best in people. Let's talk about Calipari with the job he did with this Arkansas team. We talked to Calipari, Western Pennsylvania Italian, Paisano. We talked to him last year when he took the Arkansas job. They didn't even have a team. I don't even think they had a player. I think everybody was gone. They didn't have. Anyway, Calipari tells you. He's like, we don't even have a locker room, was basically what he was saying in the entirety. Now they go 05 to begin the season against the SEC. Now they're in a Sweet 16, obvious knocking off all paisan patino, St. John's team, who couldn't make a shot for the life of them, which he knew was a potential problem for that St. John's team. Let's assume they get that fixed for next year. But when you talk about goat conversations, Calipari's in it. So is Patino. I guess. So is Izzo. Like, where does Calipari rank in all that? And what does this year's team look like in comparison to his previous teams, Reece?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I mean, they're not nearly as deep. They're. They're talented, but certainly not as talented as some of his great Kentucky teams. But you're looking at a team now that is two wins away, making John Caliperi the first coach to take four different programs to the final Four.

[Pat McAfee]

Four.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

And Patino was. We thought Patino might be the guy to do that because he. He also has taken three. And now it's Cal with a 10 seed that you know, if you the death of Cinderella is suddenly John Caliperi in Arkansas with a double digit seed and the sweet 16. I think it's one of his best coaching jobs and while I think he was underappreciated Kentucky, I think the fresh, if you want to use the the metaphor, fresh shot clock was really good for both parties. It was good for Kentucky and it was good for John and he's done a fabulous job with, with this team and he seemed like the old cow yesterday. We had him on game day yesterday morning and he's, he's cracking jokes and being self effacing and you know, talking about all the things that have gone wrong and all of this stuff. So he seems to be in his element, a little bit of an underdog and he seems to enjoy life a little more that way.

[Pat McAfee]

We're hoping it stops by here tomorrow or maybe the next day to chit chat before this week 16. LeBron James also on the show this week. I don't know if you know that Reese. Anyways, let's stick with the March Madness convo D but has a question for you Reese.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, sticking with March Madness. We're talking about teams and obviously great, great coaches. But for the casual fan out there, tune in. Now who are the most exciting players left in the tourney? Now we're in the sweet 16.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Well, everybody knows about, about Cooper Flag, Janai Broome. They've been battling for player of the year all year and this is not going too far out on a limb because it's a one seed but man, Walter Clayton Jr. At Florida is, I mean he just looks like an NBA guy. Such a quick and pure release. I didn't think he was playing his best offensively yesterday and then when Florida needed clutch shots, he made them. I think he is as much fun to watch as anybody in the tournament. I think he is, you know, he's just a sensational guy. Jace Richardson of Michigan State is a guy that's really come on in his freshman year. That's terrific. I think. And you know there, you know, there are a number of other guys. You know, I think Alabama has a couple of young players that are fun to watch. Everybody knows about mark Sears, but LeBaron Filon is, you know, one of the fastest players that you'll see in the country and them playing byu. And I think you guys are familiar with the tater tot king, Richie Saunders and grandfather I think invented, developed or whatever you do with a tater tot you know, that's going to be, I mean these guys are going to be both. That's going to be the most entertaining game of all. Both those teams will score, you know, in the 90s, I think in that Sweet 16 matchup. So there are a lot of, a lot of really fun players to watch out there.

[Pat McAfee]

Happy birthday to J.J. watt. Heartbreaker for Wisconsin to go down to BYU. But also I didn't know the Mormons had Tater Tots in their back pocket.

[Boston Conner]

That's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't know that. That was a big, that was a big deal. Go ahead, con man, go ahead.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, Reese, obviously the first couple rounds were mentioning and talking about the Cinderella's being dead. Do you think that kind of continues into these Sweet 16 Elite 8 games? Do you think those top, you know, Duke, Bama, Kentucky, some of those teams, Houston, are they going to continue to just roll or do you think that some of these four seeds like a Maryland, like in Arkansas and Calipari might be able to kind of upset those big programs?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think Arkansas has got a chance because of its matchup and I do think Alabama has a massive challenge. They're not shooting the ball great from three and that's not really what you want against byu, but Florida, Auburn, Duke, I think you see all of them move on. I think you see Michigan State move on. So I think for the most part you'll see that the Tennessee, Kentucky thing is interesting because you know, Kentucky's beaten them a couple of times this year, so Tennessee's had their issues with them. So you know, I, I think for the most part I expect you'll see, I think you'll see three 1 seeds in the final four and I think there's a possibility that maybe for just the second time in tournament history that you know, you could. Wouldn't be surprised at all to see Duke, Houston, Florida and Auburn. I'll make the final Four.

[Ian Rapoport]

Is this better? Sorry to interrupt, but is this like. I know we love, we love the buzzer beaters and we love the Cinderella but like when you know, you get to the final weekend and there's a nine seed that we don't know any of the players like it always feels like, ah, you kind of wish like you know, I know the pair players Pat. I'm just saying people who are more layman, isn't this in the end normal humans?

[Darius Butler]

Normal.

[Ian Rapoport]

Right. Normal. Right, Exactly. You know what I mean though?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I, I think that once you get here it's always nice to have a mix. Last year was a Pretty cool mix because you had two behemoths in Yukon and Purdue. You had an ultimate Cinderella story in NC State who had, you know, who had saved their coach's job, won the ACC tournament and made it all the way to the final four. And you had Alabama breaking through for the first time. So you had a mix last year. But I also remember being there in 2008 when all of the one seeds made it, and it. It felt huge. And I think if you have all one seeds or maybe three one seeds and, you know, a Tennessee or Michigan State or whoever it might be, you know, as a two, you have those huge brand names. That's good too. So, you know, there's good theater either way. So the one price you pay for the massive upset early is that it often turns into Sweet 16 Elite 8 type blowouts. You may still get blowouts. There's no guarantee against it. But I do think you get. Had bigger matchups when you have a little more chalkiness in the bracket up to this point.

[Ian Rapoport]

Rap.

[Pat McAfee]

You look very athletic, very cool, very calm. That's very nice baseball. That's. That's actually from Ireland, brother.

[Ian Rapoport]

Isn't that where you are?

[Pat McAfee]

No, I'm in Scotland, you prick.

[Ian Rapoport]

It's not the same.

[Boston Conner]

You disrespectful.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, we're gonna beat the piss out of you. I'm just saying it's like very similar. I. When I was talking to. I kept this very, very quiet, but I was talking to. To some people close to me, and I mentioned that Pat is in Ireland, which I assumed was.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm in Scotland. It is a different country than Ireland. Just like Wales is over here.

[Ian Rapoport]

Knew that one.

[Pat McAfee]

Including. Including Tyler, who did this fantastic fade even. What's that? Straight edge razor. Oh, yeah. Is that what. Yeah. Lit the thing on fire?

[Ty Schmidt]

No, he did lit the thing on.

[Pat McAfee]

Fire, actually put a little salt on it. Lit the thing on fire right in front of me. And then he put the thing on. I'm like, yeah, it was exactly like that. Little. Little fire, little shock. And I don't know if they put 151 Bacardi on there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

And then lit it on fire. But Tyler was a. And then he comes in, attacks the neck. I'm like, I got sensitive skin, Tyler. He's like, I got you. And then he goes through the entire thing. It was a magical time. But this is Scotland, you prick. Okay? And this is a great country. Good people come to Glasgow. It is. It was a very activ. Active downtown. Very active. It might be the nicest day in this town's history. Sun shining, clear skies. I was the only person with sunglasses because I don't think they fucking sell them over here. It's been a wonderful, wonderful morning, legitimately. Let's get back to some college hoops, though. You sound so typical. Journalist Ian Rapaport. We need the big names in there, but, Reese, let's go to you. We're gonna have Sankey joining us here in a moment. Sec, sbn. This is exactly what you and Seth Greenberg wanted, isn't it, Reese? What you guys wanted. Reese Staley. This.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You know, the funny thing is, is, boy, we. We got a little blowback from the picks made immediately on bracketology, with all the ones and two seeds and all the SEC teams. And then when the SEC teams lost, which is bound to happen, there were 14 of them in there. People saying, see, they stink. And now they've got seven of the sweet 16. And if they don't have three in the final Four, then everybody will say, ah, they. They stink. They were overrated. It was the best conference I've seen. And, you know, whether. Whether someone says, well, the conference play wore out a team or they peaked too soon, or whether someone says it, you know, got them ready for the rigors of the tournament, all depends on whether they win games or not. You know, Ole Miss after, it's. When, yesterday? Well, we had all these battles in conference play. It got us ready. You know, there have been some concern about Auburn, whether they had peaked too soon because of the level they played at. So a lot of this sort of is revisionist history based on your outcome, but it was the best conference. Doesn't mean the other teams can't beat them. Doesn't mean that the other conferences weren't good. But it was historically great in conference play this year, and they're reaping the benefits of it now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Ole Miss making it is just so funny to think about because, you know, we were obviously a part of the conversation here very late, that the SEC is very good. Seth Greenberg, SEC SBN host alongside you. He came in and was just like, the sec, the sec. Then Sankey comes on and Sankey's like, like, what do you want? We committed fully to basketball. We knew it was a down thing. We have gymnastics, we have baseball, we have softball, we have football. Our men's basketball, we have women's basketball. Our men's basketball was kind of down, so we invested in men's basketball, and they kind of go about, you know, doing the entirety. Then you watch The Ole Miss team, it's like they got Chris Beard as their coach. Like coaching matters in this tournament. And then all of a sudden the Ole Miss team, which is way down I think in the SEC pecking order at this moment, I don't know about what it's going to be in the future they got be coaching down there. It's like that dude creates dogs. Like that's literally that's what his team is. So you watch it all kind of fall into place. It's like it makes sense that they are as dominant as they are. I can't wait for the Sankey victory lap here while they can still do it. Go ahead. Ty Schmidt.

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah, Reese. Speaking of Seth, we had him on last week and he kind of said how in years past or starting a couple years ago, he said, hey, we, the ACC and the Big east should form some sort of super conference for basketball. Now, obviously football kind of muddies that up a little bit. But after, I mean, ACC used to be the king of college basketball and now Duke is the only team in the sweet 16. I can't imagine they're very happy about that. Is there a chance that this kind of gets brought back to the table and they do kind of explore this a little bit more after how dismal of a performance the ACC had in the tournament this year.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think it was a wake up call ties if they didn't have it already. I don't know that it will lead to any type of merger, maybe some type of scheduling arrange to, you know, boost their resumes come selection Sunday. But I think you've already seen a lot of the ACC teams respond to this. You know, a year after going to the Final Four, NC State makes a coaching change. You know, Virginia has hired, you know, Ryan Odom. Now North Carolina is changing the way it operates in terms of general manager. I think they were a little bit, if not a lot slow on the draw about the way things you guys were talking about it earlier. Derek Queensland, they paid us the money. I think North Carolina was still of the mindset of, well, Michael Jordan and Jerry Stackhouse played here. You know, you should just come play here. And you know, they weren't as competitive as they needed to be in some situations in terms of acquiring talent. I think that's about to change. Duke obviously has been on the cutting edge of this and leading the way. So I think you're going to see a bit of a resurgence from the accident. Scheduling games against Big east would be great just because it would be entertainment. Good and, you know, good content. But I don't think it's necessary for their survival.

[Pat McAfee]

Reese, I love that. I knew there was no way you were going to be on board with an ACC Big east, you know, I knew that as soon as it's like that. That ain't. We don't need to be rearranging everything just for one particular year to be kind of changed.

[Ian Rapoport]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

It is fast.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

If you're thinking. Thinking, I mean, Duke, Yukon at msg, that would be. I mean, granted, that's just one week of the year.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Let alone everything now.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Scheduling array. I'm all for scheduling arrangement. More Duke and more Yukon, you can put me down for that. Which is a strange thing. The Yukon fans really, as a whole, they can't stand Duke. And I don't understand that because if anyone historically has had Duke's number in big spots, they always win, you know, and yet for some reason they hold this. They hold this contempt for Duke that I don't quite get.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

I don't know. We are the bluest of bloods when it comes to programs, so why would we be jealous? You look at the last however many years I know, five.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

You always beat him.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not of that. Of that part. That part of the group who has this jealousy or this hatred for Duke. Don't really care that much about him. It's all about UConn, baby. Women's and men's. We've been dominant, so why would we be. You know, Dukes are.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, if we want to talk about who. If we want to talk about who's been more dominant as of late, how come the Freeze wanted to get out of West Virginia and go to Indiana? Reese, last year's West Virginia. Go ahead. Go ahead.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know the answer personally. I mean, unless you just had a thing about, you know, Indiana, historically, one of the great programs is sort of. I mean, West Virginia has been great, too. I'm not disputing that. Just, you know, the championships and Bob Knight and Hoosiers movie and sort of in the DNA of the culture. Would you argue, Pat, that West Virginia is more of a football culture? Most of America is a football culture, but more of a football culture than a basketball one. Even with Jerry. Jerry west and the greats that have been there.

[Pat McAfee]

Definitely, you know, coal mining, you know, that's a football place. But the history of basketball is obviously very serious. You talk about the logo for the NBA coming through there now, with that being Said stick natty down in Indiana, you know, don't get it twisted. You know, Bison came in and brought a football thing. I think that's why Indiana is in such a good spot. With that being said, as somebody who married into an Indiana family, I understand why DeVries went to Indiana. Okay. Hate it that West Virginia is still currently coachless. But I very much understand. I got respect for Red now. Now, Helen has a question for you. And I think it's probably going to be about the gambling and those of us who cheer for the little guy and bet on the underdog. Kind of a bummer these last few days. Go ahead.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Pat knows me super well. It is going to be about the gambling. And I was, I was kind of thinking about this when we had the College Football Playoff, you know, we. There was 12 teams in there, but we're like, not all 12 of these teams can win the national championship. Not going to say, like, hey, we knew SMU probably wasn't going to win the national championship. Indiana, whatever, whatever. But now that we are here with 16 left in the basketball tournament, is there a chance, like, can all 16, since there was no super, like, upsets and there, there is not the true Cinderella in this, is there a chance that any of these 16 could actually win the national championship?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I. I don't. I would be surprised.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I think, I think there are still. I think there are still levels to 5 or 6.

[Boston Conner]

6.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

I would say the one that. I think Florida is the best team. I think Duke is right there with them. I think Auburn is not far behind. Houston can win it. And then after that, after those four, I think some things would have to fall right. It's fall right for Tennessee, Alabama, Michigan State. I think it would have to fall right. And beyond that, I would be. I would be surprised. I don't think I've left anybody out. So I think it's really four and then a couple of others that have a shot at it. So. So seven wouldn't stun me. Anything beyond those seven teams would. Would be very surprising to me.

[Ian Rapoport]

Rhys, you keep talking about Florida being the team you think is best. The public generally seems to be on Duke. Why do you think. What does Florida have that Duke doesn't have?

[Daniel Jeremiah]

They're a little bit older, although Duke does have some veterans, and I think Seth Greenberg has put it very well. Florida has two of everything, and they're gargantuan. And I think, you know, Cooper Flagg is great, but so too is Walter Clayton Jr. And I think Florida's Got just a ton of size. They can play with great pace. They've got. They've got guys off the bench who can produce. And the shot that you're showing right now is just a fantastic shot. And Clayton, just them time and time again. Got Final Four experience with Elijah Martin, who went to the Final Four with FAU a couple years ago. Look, it's not by a wide margin. I'm not saying Duke can't beat them. They certainly can. But, you know, if I have to rank them in order, I'm putting Florida at the top of the list.

[Pat McAfee]

I love watching that Florida team. They were humming early, they were running fast. It was going. Now, obviously UConn was able to get back into it, and it became a great game. The offensive rebounding that they did at the very end. End obviously seals it for him, but a lot of fun teams to watch. When are you guys back on TV? It was fun watching you this weekend.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Saturday morning, 11am Eastern time slows down a little bit, and we'll have a. Have a big show around the Final Four.

[Pat McAfee]

I like Jay Billis in his. In his bedroom looking in a sport coat and a suit to be professional. I like that. I like Pete Thammel checking in with some breaking news. Hopefully he'll tell us that a great coach is going to West Virginia. We appreciate the hell out of you, Reese.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Likewise, guys. Have a good one. Enjoy Scotland.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. That's the country. Ian, you piece of trash. Ladies and gentlemen. Hey, Rap. Before we have the SEC commissioner join us here in a matter of moments, why don't you tell us about what's going on with Aaron Rodgers. Did anybody know he was traveling out to Pittsburgh on Friday and that was just a meet and greet? What was it from your end of the source spectrum? And what do you think got accomplished here, and what do you think we're looking at here going forward?

[Ian Rapoport]

God, I love these Photoshops. That is. He looks.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's not a Photoshop.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, yeah. It looks so old. As far as healthy fit. He's 42. Anyway, it doesn't matter.

[Boston Conner]

Look at those biceps, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Random vascularity.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

That is a gray beard right there. Just for men. Seems a great product anyway.

[Pat McAfee]

Never dye your beard. For those that are listening, we know you're dying your beard. Don't do it. Don't Bob Solace, you name it. We can go through a lot of names of people that dye their beard, and we just want to let them know we know. Like, I'm 37 and I got a lot of gray and white in my beard. You can't dye it because it turns purple. We can see. We know what's happening. Just do it. Anyways, back to you, rap.

[Ian Rapoport]

I'll tell you what. Not a lot of dyed beards on this set right here.

[Pat McAfee]

You're right. We would never do that, rap. That's what we were just saying.

[Ty Schmidt]

Everyone's.

[Ian Rapoport]

I respect it. So as far as who Ton, you'll.

[Pat McAfee]

Dye your beard to. Hold on, let's kick him out.

[Ty Schmidt]

So the.

[Pat McAfee]

These.

[Ty Schmidt]

These things right here get super white. So, you know, just a little Touch of gray. Throw a little just. Just for touch of gray in her.

[Pat McAfee]

Wait, I. I haven't been able to tell that's. You got me stuck on past the goal either.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's touch of Gray football, brother.

[Boston Conner]

What the hell?

[Darius Butler]

Good product.

[Pat McAfee]

I did not know that. Never mind. Go ahead, rap. Anyways, on the Aaron Rodgers stuff. Geez.

[Ian Rapoport]

This is called. You know what this is?

[Pat McAfee]

You found it.

[Ian Rapoport]

You know what this. This is called reporting. This is literally reporting. This is journalism, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Journalism.

[Boston Conner]

Gray Cowboy.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Ian Rapoport]

I would say this on the Rogers, the Silver Cowboys. That's fine. It's true. It was amazing to me. And we've sort of talked about this before the close circle that Aaron Rodgers has. Not a lot of people knew about this visit. People very close to him did not know about this visit. Which. Look, this. Leaked or not leaked. I hate that word. It broke from a reporter who's covered the Steelers for a very long time and is very tight in there only once he was in the building. Right? So, like, for a lot of us, I think, you know, we sort of thought a visit would be coming. But just to be frank, like, I was also, like. I saw the news and was like, okay, I guess it's today. I didn't know either. And so I think there were a lot of people real close to him that were sort of a little bit in the dark, which I think he likes. Now, as far as the visitors, it. And we'll. We'll get into this a little more when Greg Sankey's not waiting for us. And you let me know when to shut up so he can get on. But it sounded like it went really well. That was my sense. I'm like, yeah, really well.

[Pat McAfee]

I think he wanted to. I. I think they both probably wanted to get to know each other, you know, the way Jerry Dulak has been reporting on the Steelers for a very long time. I assume as soon as he walks in the building, somebody sees him that Jerry knows and Tips him off and Jerry reports it and then everybody else kind of follows suit. With that being said, I think it was both sides wanted to get to know. You know, the Michigan Pro day was allegedly happening on this Friday. They opted not to go to the Michigan Pro day to meet with Aaron ownership. Obviously the con artist, Omar Khan, Mike Tomlin, probably numerous others around the building. I don't know if this was necessarily just him trying to get a feel out for what the Pittsburgh Steelers would be like, but also Pittsburgh Steelers may be getting a feel out for Aaron Rodgers. Will this thing work? Maybe. You know, I'm. I'm pretty excited. But you saying that it was good, the reporting, the message that I got afterwards was a positive message as well from my source. Now. Now obviously no agreement happens during that day. And is Aaron still contemplating whether or not he was going to continue to play New York Giants allegedly still very much in on this. Right. Rap. Is that accurate even though they signed Jameis Winston?

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, I don't think. I mean, the Jameis Winston thing is sort of like we need a backup quarterback. Right. So. And that, that to me makes sense. The con, you know, these things. Contract speaks. Right. So James Winston gets 4 million a year. That is backup quarterback money. Right. That is to me the best way to tell. It's like look at the contract. That will tell you everything. I would say Giants are still in it now. You know, as far as I can tell, there's not been a visit to the Giants, but I know there's been communication there. So I. It seems to me that he knows what he needs to know. Right. Like visited the Steelers again, really positive from both sides. I think they came away with it being like, all right, like this, this could work. And look, when. When Rogers talks football, like really when he talks everything, it's kind of compelling and fascinating from whatever, especially in this.

[Pat McAfee]

Show is 500 page report before anybody else. This just everything he says. Yeah. People listen to. I just on the record, I'd like to let that be known. Maybe too much. Too much, I'd say. Too much, I'd say. But with that being said, incredibly deep thinker. Like, I think people just kind of shoo him off as a prima donna and everything like that. He's a hippie, deep thinker, wants to make sure everything's the right decision. Especially because to your point, he is older. This is the last decision he's probably going to make.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

In football, let's pivot away from Aaron Rodgers. We'll talk more about that. What Ian has Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the commissioner of the Southeastern Conference who currently has seven teams in the Men's Sweet 16. Ladies and gentlemen, Griff Sankey.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Coach Commish, we know you have something here in a few minutes, so we appreciate you taking the time. After the first round, you guys were getting killed. You know, you guys lost a few games and then now you have almost half of the teams left in the sweet 16. How was the emotional roller coaster for you over the last couple days and how do you feel about your conference and their performance thus far?

[Ty Schmidt]

I'll start at the end. It's always nice to break records, so we've done that. On the men's side, I think we have probably have a chance today. On the women's side, I know in particular, you guys are cheering for Oklahoma over Iowa and women's basketball. Shut up.

[Ian Rapoport]

Shot right out of the gate.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, yeah, it's a. There's like an irrational anxiety. If you were like, next to me during these games, there's nothing I can contribute. Right. And you're watching the highs and the lows. I pounded my fist on the table a couple of times over the, the four days of the tournament, but good news is we had a pretty good Saturday. Sunday went 7 and 1.

[Pat McAfee]

Go ahead, rap.

[Ian Rapoport]

I was actually going to get right to that. No, look, I want to. I was going to open the floor to a victory lap, but you seem to have already taken that when you're watching. As you should, by the way, I'm an SEC guy. Covered Mississippi State. Way to go.

[Pat McAfee]

Way to go, Greg.

[Boston Conner]

Columbia.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. Hey, I got a cowbell in my, in my NFL Network studio. All right, we're all in. I'm sure. Commissioner New. I was wondering, how do you watch? Like, can you take us into like, like as. Like, are you full throated, like, for every team? And then you move like what? No, not in a weird way, Pat. Not a weird way. Like how. Describe to us what it's like for you watching the NCAA tournament, knowing what you said, knowing what a lot of people think of the sec. What's it like?

[Ty Schmidt]

I'll show you.

[Pat McAfee]

Example.

[Ty Schmidt]

Here's a, Here's a visual example. When I'm at games, I have a little card and I have the time, the timeout and the team. You know, Bass College basketball in particular is a game of streaks, like scoring streaks, defensive streaks. And so my nervous energy is the outlet as I track the games as they go based on the timeouts. I was sitting next to Steve McLean, Senior Associate D works in communication to Florida yesterday because I attended games in Lexington and Raleigh over the weekends. He probably has a bruise on his upper thigh because I punched him them when things went well.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Punched him harder when things went poorly. You're. You're sitting at a table where decorum is important. You guys know this from a media perspective. You're all in the media. You can't hear and stand. So I try to manage my emotions under the table. How's that for an explanation? But I track the games. I'm interested in what happens and, and you know, fouls that happened. The end of the Yukon Florida game, I went, you know, through both sides of my little note card onto another note card because there were so many reviews and timeouts and moments.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, Dan Hurley has something to say to you, I assume, and hopefully he'll get a job.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, not to me. Everybody else, not to me.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm like the good guy. Definitely. Do you. Debo, we'll have the last question for you here in about a second, but my question for you is if you guys don't win the national championship, now bust. This was a. This is all big fan scale. SEC stinks at basketball. Is that. Is that how we should view it and talk about it?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, people write that. No, not at all. I think we've achieved things that aren't there now. I want to be on that trophy stand. But every one of these games is unique. You guys are competitors. You understand that, right? The ball bounces a different way, bounces off the rim. Funny. You know, yesterday it fell our way. You want to keep that momentum going and having seven of 16, I like our chances. But there's at this point, at this point in the tournament, every one of these teams is a great team. So be fun to watch games be played.

[Pat McAfee]

That.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's reality. You put it at risk. If there's nothing at risk competitively, like, why would people be interested? The fact that it's competitive, close. That's what's cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, there's been a lot of great games. Go ahead, Debug. Last question.

[Darius Butler]

Speaking of, you know, obviously the commission of the sec, probably one of the top three most powerful men in sports. Something that kind of took over my timeline. I don't know about the rest of the boys here. What's like your morning routine, you know, getting ready for. For your days, whether it's a tournament, college football playoffs, whatever it is.

[Ty Schmidt]

Usually I'm up at 5:30, go for a run, eat breakfast at home. Pretty, pretty boring. Drink my coffee. In the office usually before 8. We had a. Had a power outage because of a storm so I couldn't get my garage door to open.

[Ian Rapoport]

A little bit of a technical happens. Hold on. Are you like from the bottom thing or how.

[Ty Schmidt]

I was, I was texting staff for a rock actually. A little bit of design flaw we have to work on there. I don't know if this is good TV or not, but that's what happened. So usually I get up and run and and read a little bit and today I was trying to figure out how to get inside my garage so I could drive to work.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey commission, why don't you stick your face into some sparkling water with ice in it to tomorrow and good luck the rest of the way. We appreciate the hell out of you stopping by.

[Ty Schmidt]

Cheers.

[Pat McAfee]

Cheers to you brother. Ladies and gentlemen, the commissioner of the sec. Great st. That guy's former football player, right? Old buddy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. So Alcorn State.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. Tone was watching his film this morning.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Good huddle tape. Good huddle tape out there.

[Pat McAfee]

He can move, dude. This guy can move. You know like I saw Lethal shooter once again hit a gummy bear into a bottle yesterday and then I watched this guy run and it's like some of these fitness influencer little bit different than the others. Some of these trick shot people a little bit different than the others. This guy sticking his face in sparkling water at 4am Certainly something but I got massive respect for this man. Massive respect for this man.

[Ian Rapoport]

That seems terrible.

[Ty Schmidt]

What do you mean?

[Boston Conner]

There it is.

[Pat McAfee]

545 say this.

[Ian Rapoport]

I did. I did a little cold plunging in Montana. People don't know that. It was awful. We will be back after this.

[Pat McAfee]

Pat.

[Ian Rapoport]

Don't go anywhere. Don't go go anywhere. We're coming back.

[Darius Butler]

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[Ian Rapoport]

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[Ian Rapoport]

Terms and conditions apply. Welcome back to the Thunderdome. I am looking at you over there because that's where this camera.

[Ty Schmidt]

Camera is.

[Ian Rapoport]

And there's other cameras, but I found this one. I am Ian Rapoport Madness. See, I paused for dramatic effect. Pat. I am in for Pat McAfee today. Pat is in Luxembourg with the WWE.

[Boston Conner]

Jesus.

[Ian Rapoport]

WWE it is on.

[Pat McAfee]

You need. Hey, some Scottish fella is gonna run into you one day and smack you right in the mouth for disrespecting this country of Scotland. I'm in Glasgow, Scotland. Okay. I mean, Glasgow, it's former shipbuilding town. Okay. Then they started working on the docks. Then they started getting a little finance in tech. Okay. Yeah, you need to show a little bit of respect. A lot of history here, while also evolving into the modern day active Glasgow this morning. Shout out to Cafe Sono. Okay. My guy Fahi and his mom from Turkey making a wonderful Scottish breakfast this morning. It's been a. It's been a fantastic day as something pops up on my screen. There you are. Something. Okay, great. Yeah, it is. It's great. Monday Night Raw here tonight live, 4pm Eastern on Netflix. And you're disgusting, Rapaport, the way you talk about this country. It's a beautiful place.

[Ian Rapoport]

What? I mean, I would love to go there and play golf.

[Ty Schmidt]

I hope they Scottish psychopath Drew McIntyre smacks the taste out of your mouth.

[Pat McAfee]

He's actually quite calculated.

[Ian Rapoport]

Rap.

[Pat McAfee]

Disgusting. Everything you're doing is disgusting. But we appreciate you traveling to Indianapolis. Rapp, why you do that?

[Boston Conner]

Thanks.

[Ian Rapoport]

I had the middle seat on the way here. It was tough. Comfort plus.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but for you. But for you, that's like King, right? Isn't that like a king size ride? Because then you get two shoulders to kind of shimmy.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, it is. I must say. I was in comfort plus and I didn't need it. I had enough. I was almost too much legroom.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's surprising.

[Ian Rapoport]

Interestingly enough.

[Darius Butler]

You sleep off lights work.

[Ian Rapoport]

No. So I do this. I. I was watching the Netflix golf, you know, golf swing, full swing, which was amazing. But usually what I'll do is I'll put my playlist on, put my AirPods in and go to sleep, but only to my music, which is very weird. But that's how I roll. So full. Like coma. Coma pose.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you put the eyes. Do you put eye covers on? And the neck. The neck.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, I'm. I'm not only do I. Not only do I not do that, I am anti neck pillow. My wife has five of them because she always loses them and then has to buy a new one in the airport. So I think they're dumb and don't work and also are weirdly shaped. So I. I hate them. And I'm out on neck pillows.

[Pat McAfee]

I would like to let everybody know that the plane I was on and like huntered up 100 down.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, really?

[Pat McAfee]

Never experienced anything like this before. Got a FaceTime from Tyrese Halliburton while I was flying up over Canon, Canada. And I'm sitting there and this FaceTime comes through and I answer it 4K. The greatest connection I've ever had. Shout out to Starlink. I know there's everybody mad about things. I think if. I think if Starlink infiltrated people's lives a little bit more, they'd be like, hey, thanks for that happening. Wild. I was watching the games last night on my phone while I was flying in this place.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, no, no street now this was a commercial flight, I assume. Delta Frontier. No, no, they have. They do have TVs on JetBlue. I know that.

[Boston Conner]

That's true.

[Ian Rapoport]

Not one of those.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, it was Big Bird. Have to get back. LeBron James, you know, is gonna be on the show this week. Had to get back, you know, have to do that type of thing. Obviously want to save the world. I thought we were all trying to do that. But nonetheless, the talksy tables here at Boss of Connor at Tash make good a senior. Boys. Man, you just got absolutely brutalized in the shins, huh? Gambling this weekend. Is this the worst weekend you've had a gambling in some time?

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, it's probably the worst weekend ever. And I saw some people, oh, yeah, by far. I mean, when you're betting every single underdog money line, there's a chance you're going to get kicked in the teeth. But typically it is kind of a record like this where it's, you know, not 13 and 44, but you know, you're losing about 30 times. But one of those wins is going to be a plus 800, a plus 650. I think the biggest one was Arkansas against St. John's and even that wasn't massive like we saw last year with an Oakland or you know, one of those FAU runs that Rhys Davis kind of just mentioned there. But you know, that's okay because some of these underdogs in the next round now are going to be fantastic teams. Like we already looked at those matchups. I'm assuming Kentucky is going to be a dog that'll be fun to bet on. Ole Miss, byu. I mean the BYU team I feel like was one of the most entertaining teams. The BYU Wisconsin game, they were lighting it up from all over the court. Both teams really were. So I'm still looking forward to the next couple rounds. I still have hope in the underdogs, but yeah, as far as success goes, I saw limited to none all weekend. It was pretty brutal.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. It was great sports for all of us. Arbutler is here obviously nine year NFL vet. We'll have Daniel Jeremiah joining us in about 15 minutes to continue to dive in the draft and everything that he's here and 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys, Silver Fox AP Tone also here talking about everything going on around the NFL. Let's do some NFL stories because we have rap sheet here and obviously you have different takes than us. We chatted about the Jameis Winston deal to the New York Giants. You said that. Backup money. It's easy to see the contract. We talked about Aaron Rodgers obviously going, going over to Pittsburgh. We haven't discussed Ryan Tannehill potentially being the veteran backup for JJ McCarthy or how are the Vikings kind of viewing this situation? Because what kind of seemingly got leaked over the weeks from free agency to Aaron Rodgers? A prima donna diva needs to make a decision to. We're sick of this guy too. Wait a minute. Maybe the Vikings are trying to figure out what they want to do with the quarterback and Aaron is kind of weighing all options. Where do we stand with the Minnesota Vikings? I think Tom Pelicer was the first one to report that this is J.J. mcCarthy's job. Is that where we are? And is Ryan Tanne Hill a guy that they're going to bring in to sit behind him. What do you think, Rap?

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay, we'll start with the J.J. mcCarthy part.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Schultz, by the way, don't fight him. Don't fight him.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. Careful. He almost. He almost spit in my coffee this morning. Rap. She was pissed.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I saw Rap clench his fist when he saw you drinking that Starbucks.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, this non labeled coffee from the lovely Marriott that I stayed. That was. They do a great job. Whatever this coffee is, is delicious.

[Pat McAfee]

Not as good as my Americano I got over here in Scotland from our friends at Starbase.

[Ian Rapoport]

It is so hard to find good coffee in. In Europe.

[Boston Conner]

Anyway, what's your strategy? Are you gonna take them down, like by the knees when you fight him or what?

[Pat McAfee]

Shoot.

[Ian Rapoport]

I was a. I was a high school wrestler. People don't know this. I was. I got to be 500 my senior year, so I was terrible. And then I was average by the end, so I could be scrappy, but just to be. See, I have a problem with this. Oh, no, wait. Oh, there you go. You fixed it. All right, great. I was gonna say I have a problem with the graphic, but you got the stories broke. Unlimited is really. That's a good one. The weight's probably a little low. No, there's gonna be no public fight. I don't really fight. I'm more of like a. Hey, can you.

[Pat McAfee]

Security.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, see, I had a problem with that too. I had a problem with that too, because that's not real. People will. You might not know this. People will believe anything they see on the Internet.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, really?

[Darius Butler]

I knew it was.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Really? Yeah. See, you're talking about always happening.

[Ian Rapoport]

It was.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. That didn't sound like you. He tried to send.

[Pat McAfee]

Wasn't there. What are we talking about?

[Darius Butler]

No, but I knew that's not rap sheet football.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yep. You guys, I think my man's got me potentially just.

[Pat McAfee]

I think debug may be lying there for a little bit. We all thought maybe you did call security and then. Oh yeah, you know, once you. You once you told us that you didn't, you had to tell your boss about it because it was obviously in a public place. A lot of people then your boss obviously reports that. That makes a lot more sense. But I am appreciative of you being like, hey, we need to get the word out there that I did not call Mama and Data. And the reason why that'll happen is not because of me. And we try to do that for you.

[Ian Rapoport]

Appreciate that.

[Pat McAfee]

Unlimited stories broke. Unlimited amount of cash available. For Schultz. Nonetheless, Vikings, they're in on Tannehill potentially to be the backup quarterback. Or how do you see this?

[Ian Rapoport]

I would say Pelissero is right and it is J.J. mcCarthy's team going forward. He's going to be the guy in OTAs. He's going to get the reps. And it did sound like in training camp last year they thought he was excellent. Now, obviously the knee injury kind of pulls him back a little bit, but the, the, you know, he did the full meniscus repair. Generally that means full recovery and no issues going forward. He's got a lot of time. Health wise, I think he's going to be good. The ten hill conversation, which I didn't get the sense were much like, it's not like conversations being like, all right, we'll offer you 20 million. And he's like, I want 25. Like, that's not the conversation. If there was any conversation. It was more like, all right, like, might you theoretically be available if we need you? Because Ryan Tanhill sat out all last year. Right. I think would probably come back for the opportunity to start for an awesome team and maybe make like some decent bridge quarterback money, maybe 10 or 15, something like that. But I don't think it's like, I don't get the sense anything's imminent. And I think they hope that they don't need him because the hope is your future's now roll with JJ McCarthy, who's really talented, and just move forward from there.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so they were going to be in on Daniel Jones until the Colts said, you know what, we're actually going to get Daniel Jones. And then once Daniel Jones is off the market, because he was already in their building last year, they say, okay, we're going to roll Full Force with JJ McCarthy. Do you think that's how that went or do you think there was real conversation about what the hell happens in the quarterback room over there?

[Ian Rapoport]

Well, I would say they were in on Daniel Jones till that morning. Like they were. They were in. They made an offer. It was, I think, similar, or maybe it might have been a small bit more. Trying to remember, I can't remember the actual. The exact numbers. Free agency was like a blur. Plus Twitter went out. It was all mess.

[Pat McAfee]

No nightmare.

[Ian Rapoport]

It was a nightmare. But they made, you know, they offered him real money, I think similar to what the Colts offered him. So they were, they were definitely in on. But even if Daniel Jones had signed with the Vikings, I got the sense it was more they were going to let them battle anyway. Right. Because, like, let's say they signed Daniel Jones to a $15 million contract and then JJ McCarthy is clearly the better quarterback in camp. Players know, all the, you know, players in the locker room know who the starter is. So if it was JJ Then he was going to start. So, like, that's what I think it would have been anyway. And that's why I think Daniel Jones did a great job, Pat, of being like the Colts is a better spot because I could start there and then just roll forward.

[Pat McAfee]

On that note. D. But had a little bit of a take about like, you know, Daniel Jones all of a sudden became the bell of the ball right when that kind of combo there. Debug.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. You know, once he, you know, wasn't starting and seeing him a lot on prime time wasn't, you know, necessarily stinking it up or blowing people away. Once you kind of go away, kind of like how coaches. Coaches kind of go away for that year. Year, and then they become the bell of the ball. I'm sure Mike McCarthy will probably experience that this offseason just like Sean Payton. Other guys have. So it's interesting now that some people are excited about him being in Indianapolis, potentially either push Anthony Richardson or to actually get in the starting job. I'm. I feel like, hey, he comes here, he pushes him, get a competition. But you want to see this bring the best out of Anthony Richardson and hopefully that's what it does for. I'm sure a lot of Colts fans probably feel the same way.

[Boston Conner]

Well, in Stike and.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead, go ahead.

[Boston Conner]

Well, like, KOC gets a bunch of credit for being a QB whisperer and he absolutely is. Steichen has had success with other quarterbacks. Like it happened with Gardner Minshew, where Gardner Minshew came in Pro bowl, and then he gets a deal with, you know, Las Vegas. Granted, Vegas went how it went, but it's not as if coming to, you know, Indianapolis is a huge step down as far as, you know, play caller goes. Because we all know Steichen is, you know, one of those top guys at maybe not culture, but at being a play caller on offense.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, the culture is going to get turned around. Okay. I've heard they're working hard.

[Boston Conner]

Okay.

[Ian Rapoport]

Are they? You talking about Colts?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Colts just had to mature a little bit. They became professionals. They're all working hard. It's awesome. You're right, D. But we're optimistic.

[Darius Butler]

Very optimistic. What is March 24th? Very, very optimistic. Things change around. I do love the people that Chris Ballard has brought in the building and paid big money. Cam, bite him. I love him. Heard great things about him off the field. Ward, same thing with him. And then it's been rumors. I don't know how true this is. Trey Henderson, are we getting him or what? Oh, are we reuniting him and Lou or what?

[Pat McAfee]

Good question.

[Ian Rapoport]

Not. I'm sure there's interest, it seems to me. So here's sort of the Bengals stance. I mean, obviously we saw they paid the two stud receivers, right? They paid Jamal Higgins. He's got nice contract Jamar. I mean, great contract Higgins. Really nice. Really nice deal as well. The Bengals do not like letting good players leave the building, even if it's for, like a huge draft pick. They don't like it. They like to develop, draft, develop, sign their own guys. And I think they get annoyed that people think that they don't sign their guys. So Hendrickson is awesome. He deserves a lot of money. I think his next contract is going to be above 30. Is it going to beat Max Crosby? I don't know, but it's going to be above 30. And I think the Bengals are working not. I think. I know the Bengals are working on it, and I know they would like to keep him in the building. They would like to pay him, and I think they would like people to stop saying, why don't the Bengals pay their guys? Because they do. And I think getting Hendrickson done at a money and a value that makes sense for both sides will be a great way for the Bengals to be. Like, see? Like, see.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

You know, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The interest wrap. The interesting thing about that is in the Bengal social media dunked on me and many others. Oh, yeah, none of us. Yeah, it was great. I thoroughly enjoy that type of shit. Now. There's a lot of people that were in that video were like, okay, we'll see how this works out. You know, they have to, like, defend their entire stance. For me, I love, like, hey, if you want to. If you would like to, Vince, go starter. You know, take off and dunk on me for something. I say, I am 100 cool with that. I like that. I think that's good social. I think that's good digital. But I don't think any of us thought they were going to be able to get T. And Jamar done. They do over $100 million for both of them. Now, the way the contract is being set up for T. Higgins, I think there's a lot more question marks on how the deal is as a whole versus what was originally reported by journalists like you and many others. But if they were able to get T. Jamar and Trey Hendrickson all signed in one off season season, that would be very much opposite of what the Bengals are, but also a great way to prove that you'll spend money on your people and then what do they do with the rest of the roster? It'll be. It'll be fascinating.

[Ian Rapoport]

Better draft. I mean, they look. You spend a lot of money on these guys, Pat. It's awesome. It's what everybody wants. You have to draft well when you're paying top dollar. Have to.

[Pat McAfee]

Eagles. Eagles were able to do this. Eagles were able to pay a lot of people. Now, granted, not as much, but at the time with where the salary cap was, when they paid the people, Eagles and Halle and everybody over there were able to do it because they drafted very, very well. It's like Bengals now got to do it. And I love that they're at that era of this team. They have an indoor practice facility, they sold sponsorship, their stadium. They have a franchise quarterback. They're paying players. Let's go, Bangles. Let's go back. Let's go. I love everything about it. Go ahead. Ty Schmidt.

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah. Rap sheet. Speaking of the draft, we've gotten a lot of people's takes on this, but I don't know if we've necessarily gotten yours yet. The closer we get to the draft, it seems like Cam Ward is kind of like the surefire number one pick. Now with the Titans at this point, are we thinking that him and Shador Sanders are both going to go in the top three, top five? And where does that leave a guy like Jackson Dart? Like, are we going to potentially see three quarterbacks maybe go in like the top 15 or so? Because that's starting to pick up heat.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay, so I'll start with the last thing first. I think the way it's looking to me now, I would say my guess, and we'll get Daniel Jeremiah's taken in a second. But my guess is we get three in the top five. A top 15. Three in the top 15 because quarterbacks.

[Pat McAfee]

Very different statement, sir.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, no, I'm sorry. Three in the top 15 is my guess. The biggest. Where Shador Sanders goes is the biggest draft question mark that I could remember in a very, very long time. And I know that Coach prime, who we love, my former colleague, great dude, done an incredible job at Colorado, has talked about the haters. I don't know that it's haters, but people have a lot of questions because he is for sure talented. He has put two programs on his actual back and led them back to national prominence. Like what he did at Colorado is awesome. When he did it at Jackson State's, unbelievable. I mean he is, he is a rock star. But he's, you know, it's not a slam dunk. Number one overall selection. Like I think a lot of people think Cam Ward is so like, could Shador Sanders go two to Cleveland possible. Three to the Giants possible. Could I see him going past the top 10 and be the biggest question mark of the draft with every single team, you know, on the clock being like, are they going to take Shador? I could see that too. Like, it is absolutely fascinating. And a month out now, I have absolutely no idea.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. Yeah, I think, you know, you talk about Shador transforming two schools and two universities. That's very real. It has to be talked about. It's not just him, obviously there's a lot that goes with it, but like what him and Travis Hunter were able to do. Travis Hunter certified top five pick. Right. He's gonna be the first non quarterback off the board. Or is Abdul Carter?

[Ian Rapoport]

I would say it's a toss up. Abdul Carter maybe has a little bit of a better chance now just because.

[Pat McAfee]

Because the Browns. Because if the Browns don't trap Shador, they have Abdul Carter and Miles Garrett.

[Darius Butler]

I position that position like past rusher. Yeah. Once if you get elite A guys, they're calling him a blue chip, elite type of guy. Usually those guys go first. But we haven't, you know, necessarily seen anything like Travis Hunt. I don't anticipate him playing full time on both sides of the football. But we haven't seen anything like Travis Hunt, Hunter and Abdul Carter. If you have, if you can get an elite pass rush at the top of the draft, usually those guys are next valuable right after the quarterback.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a great graphic right here, by the way. I did not see this one before we go live.

[Ty Schmidt]

Really?

[Pat McAfee]

Is this bone. Is this a bone production, Gertie? Dirty. Great work. Dirty. Oh yeah. That's a great. That's a great. That is a. That is a great graphic. It looks. Abdul Carter looks super cool. You know, he looks super cool in the front of that thing.

[Ian Rapoport]

The Zeke Elliott jerk jersey pull up is really what sells it right there.

[Pat McAfee]

And he's a dog too. You know, we learned about the shoulder and then the foot and everything that's kind of been happening. He just shows up and wants to play ball. So you would understand why The Browns might want to team him up. But, like, the Browns need a young quarterback, don't they? And it's like they.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yes, they do. But like. So the Browns are in conversations with Russell Wilson, right? And they obviously he visited them. And so it seems now he's got mostly like Browns and Giants. And obviously, obviously, everyone's waiting for Aaron Rodgers. So that's sort of up in the air. But it's interesting because if they sign Russell Wilson, first of all, I don't get the sense it's going to be a huge contract if he signs there. Second of all, everyone's going to say, well, obviously the Browns aren't taking a quarterback. And I would say, I'm not so sure about that because I could actually see them doing all of them. Just all of them. Like, if Russell Wilson signs a cleave, it's not going to be for a lot of money. Then take them out of anything. Anything. You're going to take the best available player at 2, no matter what, if that's a quarterback or otherwise.

[Pat McAfee]

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a mock drafter, a man who actually had a top five, top three trade predicted a couple years back that made us believe that this guy might know everything about everything when it comes to the draft. He enrich Eisenhower combine. Move the sticks. Ladies and gentlemen, Daniel. Jeremiah.

[H]

What's going on, boys? Ian. I was watching Ian's face when you said that about the trade. I just wanted to see his reaction to that because, look, there was a lot, A lot of information got pulled in. In to make that prediction. But, you know, and I, I rightfully. So I should give. I should give Pelissero some credit there. So. My bad, my bad.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay, this is the biggest nonsense. I'm sorry, hold on.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't know this was.

[Ian Rapoport]

Quick story time. So me and Pelissero are driving. Tom is our VP of restaurant reservations. So we always will go to dinner at good places when we're together for draft week, which we will be this year.

[Pat McAfee]

Classic arrow shredding.

[Ian Rapoport]

So we're. DJ comes on speakerphone. He's talking through a mock draft with us, and it comes up in conversation. Now, I think I said it. Oh, Pelissero claims he said it. D.J. believes that he said it. Anything could have happened that maybe the Texans want both, meaning Will, Anderson and Stroud. And so maybe they trade up. Now he does. He mocks it, puts himself way out on the limb. And so even though I broke the trade of the Texas trading Up to three. He's the one that gets the flowers on set. And so obviously I'm not jealous.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I'm happy.

[Ian Rapoport]

Me being happy for him anyway.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, the funny thing is, Pat, as.

[H]

You know, unfortunately, there's this thing called the the record of the Pat McAfee show where I went on and gave the full explanation of why I was doing that and talked about how I wanted to get at least one of the picks.

[Ty Schmidt]

Right.

[H]

I feel like they're taking one of these two players. So if I make the trade, at least I get credit for having, you know, one of the two be correct. And that's actually on record on the Pat McAfee show, if you care to go back and look at it. That's right. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Do some research, wrap, go back and look it up. Nonetheless, however it came to be in our eyes, you predicted it accurately. Now, did you use your source to get to that? That's good mock drafting. So let's talk about what your sources are saying now. Number two overall, obviously, we were just chatting about it. We think that is like a linchpin, potentially for the rest of the draft. Does another quarterback go there or does that cause chaos for people to trade up to get another quarterback, maybe Jackson Dart? If they think they're going to be in there, there, from what you're leaning at right now, and obviously 3.0 went out last week. We're waiting on 4.0. You have Abdul Carter going. Him and Mouse Garrett being teamed up would be absolutely absurd in Cleveland. How sure are you that? Are you just trying to sit in Andrew Barry's shoes and what do you think is going to be the next shake, maybe from the information that you've received in your mock draft?

[H]

Yeah, I wouldn't say sure. I mean, the thing that feels sure right now in this thing is that Cam Ward feels is very, very likely to go number one. And then I think all bets are off. I would say this about the Browns. They're going to take a quarterback. I feel confident about this. They're going to take a quarterback with one of their first two picks. So is that a situation where they take Shooter Sanders right there at 2? If they were to take Abdul Carter at 2, I think 100%, I would keep an eye on the Browns as a team that could be trading back into one to maybe get into the Jackson Dart sweepstakes.

[Darius Butler]

So.

[H]

So that's where I kind of see everything with them. And then that leaves the Giants. If Shador gets to the Giants and if the Giants decide You know, that they're not going to take Shador. Then what Ian was talking about, I think that really comes into play is like, okay, now, now it becomes a little bit trickier trying to find where that, where that landing spot is. So I think Shador will know after the first three picks what kind of night it's going to be, because if he doesn't go in the first three, I don't think the jets will do it. And the jets, you know, bringing in Justin Fields is still young. I think they want to see what they have there. You know, I thought the Saints, you could make a case there, but the way they're kind of trying to piece everything together and bring everybody back, you know, with the Derek Carr situation, I don't know that I feel great about that being a landing spot. So for Shador, all eyes are on the first three picks. And if somehow he doesn't go to one of those three teams, then it becomes pretty interesting before the boys have some questions.

[Pat McAfee]

Dj, Are you going to be at the draft in Green Bay?

[H]

Yes, I will be there. I will be there in Green Bay for that entire week. So we'll pop on with you during.

[Pat McAfee]

The week or actually, will you be there?

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, I will be there. I'm excited.

[H]

They haven't told the. They haven't told the end yet, Pat, so let's, let's not get ahead of ourselves.

[Ian Rapoport]

I got my reservation. Are you. We're not gonna see you there, Pat.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, well, you know, the more and more I think about it, you know, maybe we shake their hands. Maybe we do go shake their hands. You know, I'm trying to mature. I'm in Scotland now. You know, I. I am. I'm well voyaged. Maybe we try because it's going to be an electric factory over there. That place is amazing. I can't wait to see. And also who our guest host potentially would be, would be a good thing to be over there. And it's, it's awesome what the NFL has done with the draft. So maybe we, you know, maybe we're go shake their hands and make it happen. It hasn't happened. This is me potentially thinking about it, you know, and obviously the way this will get aggregated in the conversations and the half truths that will get pushed out.

[Ian Rapoport]

Welcome to my world.

[Pat McAfee]

Somebody has to say, like, you guys are acting ridiculous. And I feel like I've done that now with that being said, don't need to be that guy all the time. But it seems like I am, and I'm almost done with it. Especially after eating a Cafe Sono this morning with Fahi and his mom, I realized that there's a lot more important things about life than always having to take a stand. So maybe it's maturity, maybe it's my daughter, you know, maybe it's the wife, maybe it's Cafe Sono this morning. Nonetheless, hoping to get out there. That place a beautiful city. AP Tone has a question for you.

[Ty Schmidt]

DJ yeah, DJ I'm fascinated by the conversation you guys were just having. So if Stir doesn't go at 3, could he go at 21 to the Steelers? And I know you had Jackson Dart mocked to 21 at the Steelers. Do you have him mocked there because you actually think he's a first round quarterback or you think that he could potentially go in the first round because a lot of Steelers fans are saying no way to Jackson Dart at 21 strictly because they just have PTSD from Kenny Pickett going at 20.

[H]

Yeah, I understand that. I get that from the Steelers fans standpoint. My thing is is was pretty simple on that. I have him, you know, right on that borderline of being a first round graded player. And in a draft where there's a lot of parity and the high side is not as good as some of the other drafts we've seen, I think it's easier to justify that. And then more importantly, you know, I think Jackson Dart, based off where they are now, we'll see what Aaron does. But as of right now, I think Jackson Dart would have a good chance of winning that job. So to me he's a better option than what you have on on the squad right now. So that's why that one made some sense to me. But I'm curious, you know, when Ian said he thought three in the top 15, I'm just, I'd love to get Ian's take on that one because to me, if Jackson Darter was going in the top 15, is that new Orleans or is that. Are you talking about maybe a team coming in, you know, from back half of the first round coming up?

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So yeah, Ian.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. No, so first of all, here's what I learned last year. Okay. I mean look, so we can go through it right now and see who the quarterback teams are going to be, right? I would say The Raiders at 6 are a team if they slide back, I don't think, I don't think it's going to be at 6, but I think if they slide back they could be a team the Saints potentially if they slide back as well. And I think they would like picks. I would say Colts, probably not. Falcons, no. Seahawks. Could they actually trade up? I mean, obviously they have Darnold, but that's a, it's a great contract for him. But they can get out of it after one year. I would say that would be another one. The Steelers potentially as well. And then you have some teams sort of in the back. I mean, how long is Matthew Stafford going to play for the Rams? Could they come up. They could F them picks and they come up as well. So everybody gets overdrafted at this time. Last year I knew for a fact that Bo Nix was going to be a second round quarterback. I would have, I told everybody. We knew it for a fact. And he went 12 and then showed that he probably should have gone earlier. Like everyone gets overdrafted and no one knows anything.

[Pat McAfee]

So that's sort of my argument panics as well, you know, especially the quarterback.

[Ian Rapoport]

I would have said, I would have said second rounder and I could have told you all the reasons. And then he gets in there. First of all, he gets picked in the top 10. Secondly, he gets in there and has an absolute cannon and looks great.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, yeah, I mean Kirk Cousins and is Kirk Cousins gonna back up down there? Rap.

[Ian Rapoport]

I think he is until he, until somebody trades for him.

[Pat McAfee]

Until he isn't.

[H]

Is that where you go with.

[Ian Rapoport]

Aggregate that? No.

[Pat McAfee]

That was really good.

[Ian Rapoport]

Here's what I could see is. And look at me. D.J. you know how I'll ask you this in a sec. But there's not a ton of surefire, absolute day one starting quarterbacks in this draft. So if someone doesn't get one who maybe thought they were going to get one, all of a sudden Cousins becomes a very interesting trade possibility down the line. DJ I want to ask you though, today is Cam Ward's. He's going to throw. It's Miami's pro day. It's a little later today you talked about him as sort of the overwhelming favorite to be the first overall pick. What do you need to see today from Cam Ward?

[H]

Yeah, I mean, first of all, I'm, I'm at the network right now. That's why you see that fancy.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, you're in the green room.

[Darius Butler]

Whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, tell some of those middle, hey, tell us some of those mid level execs that, that there's a chance I'm gonna extend the olive branch. There's a chance.

[H]

Okay. I will go up.

[Pat McAfee]

Great work done. Great work setting all that up and everything. Tell them we appreciate them. Tell them they're great at what they tell them. They do.

[H]

I'm telling. I'm gonna tell them. You're gonna need some of those rice cakes to make their way to Green Bay and then try and seal this deal. Get Pat back in the mix.

[Boston Conner]

Rice cakes.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm currently on keto. No rice cakes. Thank you. I'll take some.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay.

[Boston Conner]

Or something.

[H]

Yeah, yeah. They'll get you like a beef steak stick. We'll be good. So to me, at the pro day today, we're covering.

[Pat McAfee]

Grab the meat sticks. Sorry. Go ahead.

[H]

So for the pro day today with Cam Ward, I mean, really, it's one of those pro days where it's like a proof of life pro day. Just show up, show that you're healthy, hold up a current newspaper. I mean, I don't really need to see anything. Like the arm strength is excellent. He can make every type of throw. You see every type of. Type of throw on. On video. The. The things that got him in trouble were being a little too over aggressive and trying to force some things. You know, cross body throws, kind of some recklessness at times. Like that was the, that was the knock. Well, the pro day is not gonna. You're not gonna see anything from that standpoint. There's no defense. So to me, this is, this is set up for him to shine. But I don't know that he necessarily has a lot at stake either because you can see all the good stuff in his tank. Tape.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he. I think your conversation about him being able to threaten that ball right there is absolutely absurd. His leadership is there. I'm excited that we have a clear favorite at quarterback. I'm excited to watch him kind of take the. You stinky into the NFL. Especially in a city like Nashville that needs something bad. Go ahead. D butt.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. DJ We've been talking about kind of mo. I know Ian just mentioned a couple times moving in the draft and this is the first year high, however many years that all the teams have come in with their own first round pick. So it's kind of a two part question. How much movement do you expect on draft day and who are the deepest. What are the deepest position groups in this draft in your position? Obviously we don't think it's quarterback this year, but who are those position groups that are deep?

[H]

Yeah, I would say first of all, the first part of the question, like the movement thing is going to be hard because normally the movement positions are quarterbacks and pass rushers. Well, well, we, we don't have a ton of quarterbacks, so if we do see movement? I think it would be at the top of the draft. And then from pass rusher wise leads to the second part of the question. It's the defensive line is the deepest position in the draft. There's a million of these guys and it's edge rushers as well as, as D tackles. It's, it's just a stacked, loaded group where we're going to see, you know, the first round is going to be heavily dominated by defensive linemen and that's going to carry on in the second round as well. So, you know, that, that's, you know, that's kind of where we are with that. I just don't know. We're going to see a ton of movement because of that. So, you know, everybody coming in with their picks, it, you know, it could be kind of a stick and pick draft for the most part. That's at least where we are right now at this point in time in the process. Unless, you know, maybe you're a team that, you know, that has an offensive tackle need and you feel like that's a little bit of a shallow pool, maybe you'd move up a few spots, but I don't know. I'm not anticipating a ton of movement at this point.

[Pat McAfee]

Go ahead, Ty.

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah, D.J. at the start of the draft process, Ted McMillan was, you know, like a top five pick. And then as we get closer to the draft here, it seems like the receivers just in general, their stock has gone way down. Maybe outside of golden running how he did at the combine, is there a chance that we only get, you know, maybe one or two receivers in the first round? Or do you think when like McMillan goes whenever that is, I think you have immaculate at like 22, that the dam will kind of break and we'll get a run of kind of all these guys who are potentially fringe first round receivers.

[H]

Yeah, I think we're going to get more than two. I, I, I, Matthew Golden's going to go in the first round. I think when it's all said and done, a Buka will end up going in the first round. McMillan's going to go in the first round. Grades are a little bit all over the map on him. I never had him up there, you know, throughout the process as a top five guy, he was kind of in that, you know, know, I think maybe 13 to 15 range for me for, for most of the process. So that's kind of where I've had him. And you talk to teams in the league, some are lower than that, some are a Little bit higher than that. I have not talked to anybody that had him as a top 10 guy, you know, throughout the process. So sometimes that can kind of, you know, get out there on the media side of things, but it doesn't necessarily always carry over to the team side of things. But I think those three guys go, and I think we'll get another one in there. It wouldn't be surprised if Luther Burton ended up getting in the first round out of Missouri. Iowa State's got two really, really talented receivers that there's some. Some buzz and some heat on them, so we'll see what happens there. But there's enough options and enough candidates that I think, you know, we're going to get three, four, somewhere in that range.

[Pat McAfee]

Do the teams that need to rebuild through the draft, like we just talked about, the Bengals, they're going to have to have a great draft, obviously, in a lot of different positions, because, you know, at one point, maybe after these picks and rap. What did you mean by that when you said that earlier? F. What did you mean by that? You said that? F these pitch.

[Ian Rapoport]

A lot of times F is sort of used in place of a word that I can't say on tv. I mean, I could say it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Whoa, whoa.

[Boston Conner]

You better be specific.

[Ian Rapoport]

Means.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, amen.

[Boston Conner]

It's a good point.

[Pat McAfee]

What F word are you talking about?

[Ian Rapoport]

Screw these pics would be another way to say, kids might be watching. My kids might be watching. They're not. They're in school, but they could theoretically be watching.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I understand, but I just. Whenever you say F word like, you make my head say it, so just know that you're saying it. Okay.

[Ian Rapoport]

Without saying you're like my Google Translate. Like I say, you're in your head goes, hold on. He means I got it.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly. But these teams that need to transform, allegedly, there's just a lot of depth in this particular draft. There's going to be people looking for more picks that need that. Is that what you're thinking, DJ in this entirety?

[H]

I think in talking to teams that I've talked to, there's an interesting conversation about in trades, trying to get picks in next year's draft and even, you know, going out into the future.

[Pat McAfee]

So F these bits. So F this draft class is what they're saying.

[H]

Well, I mean, yeah, there's. There's some thought to that of just like, hey, let's try and get resources. There's some teams that are already loaded up with comp picks next year because of what they lost in free agency and now, if you trade down a little bit, you could be, you know, you could be in a pretty good situation with next year's draft. So. So if we do see movement, this. I'll go back to the question that Debo asked, because if we do see movement, I don't think you're going to have to pay sticker prices on movement. Ian. I would, I would. That's the way I would phrase that. If you are going to see movement, I don't know that the prices are going to be super high to move around.

[Ian Rapoport]

So it's interesting. First of all, I would agree, because it doesn't seem like there's that high, high end guy who's kind of floating out and we'll see. But the. You mentioned the teams looking to get future picks. The Philadelphia Eagles have done as good a job as maybe anyone in a very long time of exploiting teams desperate for picks this year to move up. And they collect future picks like nobody else. So that to them organizationally from Jeffrey Luria all the way down has been like, this is how we get value. We acquire picks next year because people, you go, ah, that second rounder, I'm not going to worry about him next year. Eagles have exploited that. They have collected those and used it to absolutely load up. And so, like, I think you're right. I think we're going to see the teams that like Eagles, Ravens, like teams that are perennially good collect picks for future to be like, we'll take them because you need this guy and we don't.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Bradley Cooper knows what he's doing over there in Philadelphia.

[Ian Rapoport]

He and I got to get a selfie of the super bowl somehow.

[Pat McAfee]

They just after he gave the motivational speech to go win the super bowl, he, they, it's unbelievable what they've been able to do with that roster transformation, with how much money they've paid everybody and then they still pay Saquon, top of the class, three years in advance. It's like, if Philadelphia is able to continue to win, that'll be absolutely bananas. Connor has the last question for you here. D.J. we appreciate you.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. D.J. obviously the Patriots don't need a quarterback because Drake May is a future hall of Famer. But in this scenario where Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter go, you know, know one or two and three back to back, and then, you know, Shador being that other pick, obviously the Patriots aren't going there. Elliot Wolf actually came out and mentioned, hey, we're in a spot now because of free agency where we don't have to take biggest need we can take, you know, best available. With, you know, Hunter and Abdul gone is the next best available. Like Ash and Jinty, like, is there a world where that's who New England goes with? Because, you know, you have Will Campbell go in 10 and he wouldn't be considered next best available.

[H]

Yeah, I would say, I would say it. If you don't, if you don't get Abdul Carter or Travis Hunter, I would add a little line to the end of best available. I would say best available player that can help your quarterback. So it looked, I would be looking on the offensive side of the ball and Ashton Genti, I have him as I think the number three player in the draft. So if you just go on pure best available player, it'd be Genti. And if you're obviously looking on the offensive side of the ball, he's the, you know, he would be the guy there from the offensive side of the ball standpoint. So I just feel like that's got to help. Unless you can get Abdul Carter, like somehow Abdul Carter there. I get it. But man, like, if you draft Travis Hunter, you play him at receiver. He helps. He helps. Drake May this, this first pick after a defensive heavy free agency, it just feels like, man, this has got to be a pick that's going to help.

[Ian Rapoport]

Drake May, you think. I'm sorry to interrupt. You think that Travis Hunter at 4 to the Patriots playing receiver makes sense value wise.

[Pat McAfee]

That's.

[Ian Rapoport]

That's pretty interesting.

[H]

I would, I think he's dynamic. I think he'd be their most dynamic weapon on offense and I think they would have a lot of fun watching those two guys, quarterback and receiver, kind of grow up together. Yeah, that would, I would have a lot of. I would be excited about that if I were a Patriot fan and somehow Travis Hunter would be there and I would be interested when they say Travis Hunter, you know, the Patriots select from Colorado, Travis Hunter. I would be listening. I would be listening though to say is, is it wide receiver? Is it corner? Is it combo? Like, how are you going to write that on the card? Because the team does get to decide how that's going to be announced. Oh, I, I would, I would curious that to me, that would be wide receiver slash corner, not the other way around if you're the Patriots dog.

[Boston Conner]

He had the. He had the dog on his chest.

[H]

He did.

[Pat McAfee]

You're right. Could it be dog? Could be ath could be wrcb. I mean. Hey, hey, Pat.

[H]

Go ahead, Pat, real quick. You guys brought Ian into the studio. Do you have to pay for security for him or how does that work?

[Pat McAfee]

Nah, he's so little, he just kind of, like, squeaks by. You know, people are looking for him. They just can't, you know, find him. And that's a. Yeah, that's a gift and a curse.

[H]

Stay out of the coffee shops.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo. 22A or B. He's able to fly in. He could get comfortable.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

And at Starbucks, whenever the owner's kid walks in, you know, he's able to kind of weasel on out of there.

[H]

Like Ashton Genti. He's like the action Genti of insiders. Just kind of make you miss. Bounce off. Get out of there.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Look like in that photo. That's what he looked like in that photo. Hey, dj. We appreciate the hell out of you, buddy. All right.

[H]

See, boys?

[Ian Rapoport]

Thanks, dude.

[Pat McAfee]

How Was the Big 12 Pro Day? How's the Big 12?

[H]

Oh, it was fantastic. We had a great time. Yeah, I thought you besmirched it a little bit at the end of our interview, but it was.

[Pat McAfee]

It was fun.

[H]

We had a good time.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't love that West Virginia doesn't have their own pro day. Okay. I don't.

[H]

I know. I. I gathered that. I gathered that.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't love that. Once again, we need to get back to having our own pro day. But I like that the Big 12 comes together and does their thing. Just like we appreciate the hell out of NFL Network's finest. Joining us, ladies and gentlemen, Daniel Jeremiah.

[Ian Rapoport]

So you mean finest, except obviously Rich Eisen. Rich does a great job.

[Ty Schmidt]

Wait, is it still NFL Network or.

[Ian Rapoport]

It is still.

[Pat McAfee]

Tell us what you're hearing, brother, because this has been rumored for, like, two years now, hasn't it? It's kind of been a rumor. It's kind of like at one point, allegedly, there was a deal done where Disney, ESPN was going to purchase NFL platforms, and then NFL plus was added into play a little bit. Might be able to get a little, little bit more on the digital side. Maybe the direct to consumer line with NFL Plus. What are you hearing about NFL Media? Because this has literally been like two years of talks, and then another report hits the Internet last week. What are you hearing?

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, my attention was slightly divided last week, so I didn't get to fully listen to the podcast, which I'm definitely going to subscribe to it when I can figure out how to do it. Here's my problem is I am such a gossip that no one tells me anything because they think I'll just tell everyone, which is actually generally True. So I don't have valid. I don't have great intel. What is that? I'm a huge follower of cord cutters, news.com or whatever. If this is what our people think is best for everyone, I will fully support it. I have literally not idea if it's going to happen. I'm sure it would be great if it did, but I'm kind of like you. I can tell it, like if it happens, if it's real, then I think that's. If that's what they want, I'm good with it. But I have no idea.

[Pat McAfee]

There's just so many rumors about it, you know, because it would be a huge price. I mean, that would be a hefty number, especially to take over the NFL's media. And then if you were to take over NFL Network, and I understand the way NFL Network operates more so now than maybe ever before in the past and certainly interesting, but it is the best league or best network that a league has, the NFL Network network. And I think you're a masterpiece of that rap. You should be incredibly proud of the work that you've done over there. And Rich and Mooch and everybody, you know, the. And Kurt and, you know, I don't want to go through a list of people that I've appreciated their time on NFL Network, but the NFL Network is definitely the league's best network whenever it comes to all the leagues. But this been rumored for years now and allegedly there was a deal done and then it went back to a group of people on both sides and then that was kind of thrown away. And then there's been. I mean, it's a lot. It's all a lot, you know, but we'll see. As long as we're able to see the game that we love in the league, that we love in more ways, I think we'll all be very appreciative for it. But are you guys operating as if you are for sale over there at NFL Network? Is that kind of day to day? Like anybody could be the new owners?

[Ian Rapoport]

I am operating as if I only focus on what I have to do. So I have no idea.

[Darius Butler]

Do your job.

[Ian Rapoport]

It is not to like, speak for. Yeah, I mean, literally, like do my job, but not to speak for everyone. But I would say, like the only way to go to do this. And it's interesting because it's a little bit like a player whose sort of like name is in trade talks. It's like either you can become obsessed by it and it'll just eat you up, which doesn't feel like it's the case with the people I work with or just kind of do the absolute best you can, roll with it and if it happens, we'll all adjust. But like, I feel like psyche and mindset are pretty good. Like really good.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, good. Happy to hear that. It's good. It's, you know, the NFL having a deal with ESPN more so than just Monday Night Football. And then obviously what we do day to day and everybody does day to day coverage of the NFL would be cool. And obviously the people at ESPN would want to continue to grow sport and grow league. So I'd be excited to see what would be next. A con man college sports happening this weekend, not just college basketball. There was some magic. Magic. There's a magic in some college sports, brother. I look down here and I see one glorious lad, one Canadian glorious man in Robert Roode. What happened in college ball this weekend?

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, the glorious Bobby Rood has a boy, Pat, and let me tell you about this boy. He scored a game winner. Nick Rude for the Michigan Wolverines against the number one team in the country, the Maryland Terrapins. Third overtime cuts down the slot, little goal basically making Michigan season. I believe this put them back into the top 25 of men's college lacrosse. But if we're talking college lacrosse, especially on the men's side, I'd be remiss if I did not say that the Fairfield Stags, yes, those Fairfield Stags in Connecticut are the only remaining unbeaten team. They are 9 0. They are absolutely rolling right now. A couple different sites have them ranked in between between 12 and 15. Because I saw them at 12, I'm going to say, yes, they are the 12th team in the country right now. But college, men's college cross kind of taking over here, boys, once March Madness ends, you know, we had Matt Madness, which also was electrics. But well, once it is kind of college cross season. So look out for, you know, Fairfield men's lacks. But yeah, Nick Rude kind of stole the show this weekend, beating the Maryland Terps path.

[Pat McAfee]

Pat, shout out to Nick Rude. I got to meet him a few weeks back at a Monday Night Raw and obviously I'm a massive fan of his father. He wasn't necessarily thrilled about the entire Canada Pat McAfee situation that was brewing because he is obviously a proud Canadian. But I'm happy for Rude and the Michigan Wolverines. Notre Dame still got a good squad in lacrosse, I assume.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, they're still playing. They're still playing. Well, Chris Kavanaugh still One of the best players in the country. I would look for them to be around in the end as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, let's continue with college athletics. You mentioned it there, Matt. Madness. And obviously, every single year that we've gotten a chance to watch on that madness, we thought to ourselves, damn, they need to move this before March Madness. Leading in to March Madness because it is electrifying. The arena's roof gets blown off multiple times, showcasing the best of the best, a man who's no stranger to the national championship for the ncaa, former national champion, former Olympic gold medalist for former WWE Superstar. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Gable Steveson. How you doing? Hey, I'm great. Thank you so much for joining us. And obviously, I've gotten a chance to get to know you over the years, and with what happened this weekend, I didn't know if you would be open to joining us or not open to joining us. Then I watched you next to Hendrickson whenever he was up on the podium, and you, like, kind of gave him a pat on the back. Is there a sense of relief that the season's over? Is there a sense of disappointment? Disappointment, because obviously, the way it went, they're talking about it being the biggest upset in the history, and the reason why it's the biggest upset is because of how damn great you have been as a Minnesota Gopher and a wrestler. Where's your head space at and what are your thoughts on everything that kind of transpired this past weekend?

[I]

Man, you know, I'm not happy with the results that happened this past weekend, but, you know, it's a blessing to go out there in front of the crowd, in front of the biggest stage. And. And, you know, since. Since leaving in 2022, I've always wanted to. To go out there and give one last good push for the University of Minnesota. And so that's what I try to do. I try to make things. Things as big as possible. And I love. I love the show. I love going out there and feeling the jitters, having your heart race and having a great opponent across from you. And. And it's win. Win or loss, the. The road doesn't end for me, and I keep going forward.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so what is next for you, Gable? Obviously, I saw some haters. You know, anytime you're a superstar and you're dominant like you have been in the modern world, there's going to be people that are haters. This guy couldn't even make an NFL team team. This guy, he didn't even play football. He can't make An NFL team on his first try. Okay. And then you. You have all this success, and you still choose the hard road, and you make it all the way back to the national championship, which is why I respect you. Your work ethic is awesome. You're an absolute dog. Nothing you've done has been easy. What is next for you? Have you thought about that, or. Or kind of. Where are you at right now? Whenever you look at tomorrow, as opposed to what yesterday was, oh, man, the.

[I]

Sun always comes up the next day. You know, that's a saying that everyone's always talked about. But what's next for me is I've been boxing, I've been putting on the gloves, doing jiu jitsu classes, trying to get ready for an MMA career, or right after I stepped off the mat Saturday night, just a couple calls from a few new teams in the NFL, and just the roads keep opening. And I'm just so happy that I can go out there and put on my best performance, win or lose. Like I said, I'm always a showman. I go out there, there, and. And I. I turn the crowd up. I show love, and. And. And if a guy gets his hand raised across from me, it's his respect, as always. And so the. The doors are still opening, and I'm. I'm just so happy where I am today and where the future is going to take me.

[Pat McAfee]

I like the way you operate, man. You've been kind to everybody that I've seen you interact with. And the way you were gracious in that situation, especially with the way that the reaction was like, oh, my God, Gable Stevenson has been coming toppled. Like the way Daniel Cormi. I don't know if you watch it back and if you ever will. Like, the reaction was stunned by everybody and the way you handled it when you could have gone the other way. Nothing short of awesome, brother. You need to know that and can't wait to see what you do next. Rap Sheet has a question for you, Gable.

[Ian Rapoport]

Gable, you mentioned the. Your. Your time in the NFL. You mentioned some teams called, by the way. First of all, if you sign, please make sure I get the scoop.

[I]

I got you.

[Ian Rapoport]

Just. Just being real. Hit me up.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll.

[Ian Rapoport]

I'll send you my number anyway.

[Darius Butler]

You know, it. You.

[Ian Rapoport]

You. You had some experience with the Bills. You have seen wrestlers really thrive, especially in the offensive line. Stephen Neal with the Patriots. I know. Zach Frazier with the Steelers. His dog. What is it about wrestling that translates so well to, I guess, all positions, but specifically the offensive lineman.

[I]

Just the offensive Line and defensive line too. You go out there and it's a one on one battle with the guy in front of, of you. And just growing up wrestling, you look at a guy across from you and it's just like you go out there and you want to kill. And so that's just what it's about. It's the trenches. It's going to be hard. It's going to be, it's going to be desperation to get to the quarterback, or it's desperation and I'll let the D line get to the quarterback. So whatever position I can get in that, I'll be grateful. I'll be thankful. And when I was in Buffalo, I put my best shoes on. A lot of people don't know that was my first time ever playing football and first time ever put on cleats. Von Miller and the guys had to put on. Von Miller had to help me put on my pads and strap them because I had no clue how to put them on the first day of camp. So I appreciate Von Miller for that.

[Pat McAfee]

But no, yeah, but you weren't able to make it. You weren't able to make it. Yeah, the guy didn't even know how to strap his fucking pads.

[I]

Yeah, we got this. Me and my strength coach, Scott, we got this saying, man, a lot of people say a lot of things, but they just talking to talk and, and, but we're out there walking and walking, doing the best we can and in our life and everybody else's life too, just to make sure everybody can see a great show for me and see the next path that I take.

[Pat McAfee]

I love that. That's a great quote. And obviously that's going to continue for the rest of your life. You become a superstar at a very young age. D Bud has a question for you. Gable.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, Talking about what's next. You talked about mma. Do you already have a trainer? Do you already have a regimen in mind going into that next step? That's a completely different avenue. You've done it before, but what pieces have you already put in place?

[I]

Just, just making sure I can get my hands certified and ready. Just making sure that I can see punches coming and make sure that I'm comfortable in the cage and comfortable with guys in front of me that are going to be throwing these huge haymakers and, and getting it, getting in and getting out the way. So, I mean, I got a great mentor right now. I hope a lot of people know a guy named John Jones, just a fantastic dude and, and, and the greatest fight of all.

[Pat McAfee]

Time.

[I]

He's pretty. He's pretty damn good, you know, he's pretty damn good. So, man, I appreciate his efforts of trying to lead me into the right direction and kind of, kind of taking my. Taking my back and kind of giving me the direction I need. And, you know, I'm really young and he's been there and he's done that before, so it's. I'm really appreciative of how he's kind of walked my. My steps leading into this next chapter, if that's what it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so amateur wrestling, obviously, they tried to kill it a few years back. I think whenever it wasn't an Olympic sport anymore, the entire wrestling community came out and said, that's not real. And then we watched Matt Madness every single year. It is electrifying. We think the sport is obviously very healthy, but whenever it goes from amateur wrestling, the professional step next is either wwe, which you had obviously been around a few different times, or you get into mixed martial arts and ufc. Have you already talked to Dana? Have you already had those conversations? And how long have you been preparing potentially for a life in the cage after wrestling, knowing that that is one very viable professional outlet for good amateur wrestlers?

[I]

That's. I think that's the best outlet for amateur wrestlers overall. And I think I've not spoken to Dana personally. That's one meeting that I would love to have face to face. You know, I've been waiting a long time to see him. I know after the 2021 Olympics, he reached out to me and wanted me to come see him in Vegas and everything else. And so that's one meeting that I would love to have and love to see. So if I can. If I can get in front of his face and really pitch who I am and pitch who. Who he can see and who I will be, I think that'll be the. The greatest thing.

[Pat McAfee]

See tomorrow. Perfect out on you, Gable. Maybe you get into tv. You saw the countdown right there. We are still live. I saw it on YouTube. You great work out of you. Good time. Hey, perfect time. We're still live.

[I]

I've been on the block a little times. I can see.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. I've been a superstar. Been a superstar a long time. We're on ESPN Plus, YouTube, Disney plus and tick tock Live. Still talking to Gable. Stevenson, obviously would be pumped to watch you in the ring. The jiu jitsu is the thing, right? And that kind of the thing. Thing like because those can break both your arms at the same time. And that kind of the legs, they.

[I]

Break your legs, your kneecaps, your elbows and arms and all that. So hey, just, just try to jump out the way if you can. But yeah, it's gonna be tough. But yo, I've always, you, you know me, you know me for a long time. I've always been out for the battle. What a, what a, if it was good or, or if it was bad, if people doubted and you know, you know, they're always gonna doubt. But I've been here before and this is not new.

[Pat McAfee]

That's awesome. Gable, Connor has a question for you, brother.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, Gable, as far as environment, environments go, how was it yesterday? You know, obviously the president was there, but then you're still looking around and you know, there's a lot of history made. I believe one of the Penn State wrestlers became a five time national champion as well. What was the environment like in that place all day yesterday?

[I]

Crazy Philly showed up for Matt, for Matt Madness. Carter Storachi, a five time national champion, probably going to go down as the greatest NCAA wrestler of all time. I get to go out there in front of training Trump, in front of Elon Musk and everybody else can and go out there and showcase a great matchup and that's what we want and that's what wrestling needs. Wrestling needs to grow. Wrestling needs that spotlight for guys like myself, Wyatt Hendrickson, Carter Storace and and so many other guys that go out there and put on good performances and, and like I said before, win or lose, I've always been that showman and I've always wanted to show the crowd who I am and, and leave that lasting legacy of, of who is Gable to the casual viewer that is watching on ESPN that has never heard of, of me before.

[Pat McAfee]

I wasn't paying attention close enough whenever they're doing the commentary because the moment was so gigantic. Had you wrestled Hendrickson before? Did you guys know each other very well? And there you were. Hey, when he shoots and gets your leg, you know, you're there. Like when do you like legitimately take me into your mind a little bit?

[I]

Nah, you, I mean, I, I, I'm a great counter score wrestler and so when he got to my legs, you can kind of get a sense that you might be, but you're not fully.

[Pat McAfee]

So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[I]

Like so, you know, you're in between of halfway of like, gosh, am I, am I gonna get fucked or am I about to. So I mean, you get the sense of like, okay, it's about to happen. And so I Get taken down. With 20 seconds left, I'm looking at the clock like, gosh, I gotta get up. But, you know, in wrestling, if you've been around wrestling and, you know, starting in the parterre position and getting taken. But getting taken down and having to build up from the stomach is a lot harder because guys. Guys can hang on. You don't have to start in the regular position. So, man, I'm getting full weight on top of me. I'm trying to build up and. And it was just. It just wasn't my time. And I'm cool with that. And there's nothing wrong with not having your time and not having your day, because I feel that out of all the other times that I probably could have pulled it off, but that day, it just wasn't my day. And it happens.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Anytime you're going into a gladiator like sport, you're exposing yourself, obviously, in front of millions, hundreds of thousands of people watching in, and every once in a while, you're gonna get caught. You've only lost three match. I mean, your records are absurd. That's why when I was reading the. On the Internet of people like, celebrating your loss, I'm like, let's not forget here, the reason why this is such a big thing is because of how damn dominant you have been. Tell me about Hendrickson, though, a little bit. Obviously you have massive respect for him, and you have to have respect for every one of your opponents. But tell me about him as a wrestler, because if I go back to the Olympic gold medal, you wrestled a big dude too, right? Dude that was bigger than you. I think you had to get a win.

[I]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Bigger than you. Go ahead, keep going.

[I]

You can.

[Pat McAfee]

I was gonna say, felt like the same situation there. He was a little bigger. It looked like he was a little bit bigger than you, maybe.

[I]

Yeah, he was just a little bigger. But, you know, I. It's a gladiator sport. You want to go out there and fight. You want to go out there and battle, and. And that day was not my day to win a battle.

[Ty Schmidt]

And.

[I]

And there's nothing all. Always at the end of the day, I think people were. Were going to get a reaction, and we're waiting for reaction. Me to act in a negative way towards the crowd and towards Hendrickson and bring out a different side of me. But we go toe to toe, we put it on the line, and a lot of people are going to say a lot of things about, hey, he lost. But what I've done for wrestling, I think, is unimaginable. I've done out there and won Olympic golds in the last second. I've won two Dan Hodge trophies at heavyweight, which no one else has ever done, two national titles, three time in the finals, five time. All the marriage. My resume stands for itself, and I could probably keep going on it, but a quick search can help that out. So, I mean, like we talked about, it wasn't the day, and it happens. It's a gladiator sport, and I'm a warrior.

[Ian Rapoport]

Well, Gabo, that's why I wanted to kind of follow up and ask, because I'm kind of, you know, your comeback, which has been one of the cooler stories in college that we've seen you. You lost at the end, but you don't sound like. Like you lost. I'm wondering at the end of all this, considering where you came from, what you've been through, the different things. Yes. Coming back to the top and the brink, do you consider it a success or are you, like, it would have been a success? Because, like, how do you view this entire climb and the way it ended up?

[I]

Man, I. That's a great question. I woke up today, you know, it's crazy. Oh, yeah, it's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

Like.

[I]

Like, I think we. I think for. For a long time now, I've been. I've been like, damn. Like, I get to wake up. I get to, like, I have a home, I have a house. Like, I get to eat, like, good food. I get to see the world. I get to go places that nobody may ever see. And. And I think a lot of people were expecting just a really bad reaction from me.

[Ian Rapoport]

And.

[I]

But. But at the end of the day, like, I've done so many great things. I've met so many great people. I've been to so many great places and that I'll never take that for granted. And that's why. That was the main reason why I wanted to come back to University of Minnesota after leaving in 2022, was I wanted these kids to see that you can be something special whether you win or lose. You can change the sport. You can be a guy that people want to look at and take pictures with and. And hang out with after the duels and after the matches. So it. It's not the end of the world for me. Like I said, the sun. The sun is shining right now. I'm happy to see that the skin is glowing. I'm smiling, the teeth look good, and I'm ready to be here.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they certainly do. And the resume is packed, and we can't wait to see what you do next. Thank you for taking the time and thank you for doing to wrestling what you did. Man, you're the best.

[I]

No, I appreciate you, Pat. Thank you. Everyone else, I appreciate you.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Gable Stevenson.

[Ian Rapoport]

So cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Part of the program cable under the program Gable, Steve. So he. That was so fascinating to watch. And obviously that's a reaction, you know, that you're gonna get, especially when you have that much success and you're that notable and you're that known, especially in that heart of a sport. Sport like. That's my big takeaway. He goes after his resume is already made. Okay. Already created. He's already rich. He's got nil deals, everything. Everything's already been talked about. Then he goes back, chooses to go back in. Like, day to day of wrestling is miserable. Like, that is just. It is miserable. It is so hard. It is. So they're showing clips of him just running laps in the wrestling match in Minnesota. It's like, that guy's already a millionaire. You know, he's already successful. He's running around these college kids still just like going all the way back in because he still had eligibility. I got massive respect for work ethic. And I believe Hendrickson will be joining us at some point this week as well. Nice to talk about his win over words, but over Gable. But Matt Madness is electrifying. You. You find yourself watching and there hasn't been as many because I think it's because the underdogs haven't really continued to go. There hasn't been as many. Just like blowouts, you know, there's been a lot of games that, like, you kind of are sticking around. There's some games obviously over early. You could tell, but whenever there's bad game, we were able to hop over to Matt Madness last couple years.

[Ty Schmidt]

Years.

[Pat McAfee]

It's fucking electrifying. They need to move that to the lead up to March Madness.

[Ian Rapoport]

Have you ever been, like, I was just thinking, for me, like, I have three sporting events that I've never been to that I would die to go to. Masters, obviously. One College World Series in Omaha. Two. When I covered Mississippi State and Alabama, they never went, which is annoying. Matt Madness to me is. Is up there because it seems unbelievable in the building. And like, I have like, my oldest son Max did wrestle. And we have talked about going like that. I think that event would be live in person would be absolutely insane.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I agree. There's also that cheese chase that happens over here in Europe we'd like to see you be a part of.

[Ian Rapoport]

We'd like to see you go down the hill.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is that one.

[Ian Rapoport]

I've seen the Netflix on that. It's. Yeah, count me out.

[Darius Butler]

What country is that in rap?

[Ian Rapoport]

I swear. Switzerland.

[Ty Schmidt]

Higher.

[Boston Conner]

Switzerland?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, sure.

[Ian Rapoport]

Germany, is it.

[Pat McAfee]

You're a scumbag, dude. They're not all the same.

[Ian Rapoport]

I've been to some of them, by the way, bag of bones.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm sure you have. They didn't want you there. They were happy you left. Especially if you ever come here to Scotland. I don't think they're going to treat you too kindly. With that being said, I have to go roll and do my thing. Rapaport, if you could please wrap up this show in a epic fashion, I'd be grateful.

[Ian Rapoport]

I got you.

[Pat McAfee]

It's been fun, boys. I'll see you tomorrow, boys. I will see you tomorrow.

[Boston Conner]

Oh, yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Good show, brother.

[Pat McAfee]

Rapaport, thank you so much for traveling over there. I will see you next time. Thank you for taking the time for the boys. I'm gonna go do my thing. This is gonna be a beautiful time here in Glasgow. These fans are pretty insane.

[Ian Rapoport]

What building? Like, what. What is usually in that building you're at?

[Pat McAfee]

So this is the Ova hydro oval. Hydro 10,000 plus. I don't know the exact number. They do all the good stuff here. They do all the good stuff. Stuff. So many. So much good stuff. So much, so much, so much good stuff. It's almost hard to list it all out because there's so much good stuff. Like, if these seats could talk, it would say so much good stuff. And that's what I'm expecting. Tonight is gonna be awesome. Very, very updated arena. Like, the chairs, seats are very nice. The in the back, very, like, it is very clean. I don't know how many events happen here, but I will say it is wonderful. And these European crowds are insane. Rap. That's kind of my first European WWE show. Not just. They take their soccer energy and their hooligan energy into wrestling. So they sing. They understand that the fans in wrestling really matter.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, that's cool.

[Pat McAfee]

So, like, I've. I've only got to watch European WWE shows, like, basically my whole life. As of late, they've been coming over here more. Wasn't able to get to Belgium because it was the day after Selection Sunday for March Madness, and there's a lot going on. We had a lot of coaches joining us. So this is my first European show. I am very, very pumped to be in the building. And feel these fans because they are a massive part of the show and these are wild. And today should be no different. I can't wait for it. I appreciate the hell out of you boys. I'll see you tomorrow. Okay, boys.

[Ty Schmidt]

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[Ty Schmidt]

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[Ian Rapoport]

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[Ty Schmidt]

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[Ian Rapoport]

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[Ty Schmidt]

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[Ian Rapoport]

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[Ty Schmidt]

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[Ian Rapoport]

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[Ty Schmidt]

Whatever you do, do it for less at Harbor Freight.

[Ian Rapoport]

Have you guys ever been. You've been to soccer games over there, right?

[Boston Conner]

No, no, no, of course not.

[Ian Rapoport]

None of you guys?

[Boston Conner]

No.

[Ian Rapoport]

Hell no, actually.

[Boston Conner]

I mean, we're a big soccer show, but. No.

[Ian Rapoport]

Are we a big soccer show?

[Boston Conner]

No. Maybe Guppy Gumpy. Maybe he's been over there.

[H]

I've never been. Only games in the US Rapture.

[Darius Butler]

What did you think about Cena's heel turn in the promo he cut last week?

[Ian Rapoport]

What'd you think I was. I know all about it. Obviously.

[Darius Butler]

Jeez.

[Ian Rapoport]

I saw the memes. I saw the memes. Everyone sent it to me in varying fashions.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Ian Rapoport]

It. I was. I couldn't believe that he stunned turned heel.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was shocker.

[Boston Conner]

Just sad.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, I was. I took down all my posters.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, sure figured that.

[Ian Rapoport]

Which I think was. Is too bad.

[Boston Conner]

Max and Jude just tearing each other apart, man.

[Ian Rapoport]

When they, you know, they came to WrestleMania with me, they could not have loved wrestling more.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Boston Conner]

It's infectious.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, because, you know, obviously they love you guys and they love Pat, and so they've watched his match like a million times in my house. And they are. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

What state do you send them to for school?

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. What's that place called? Is it bivouac?

[Ty Schmidt]

We know you send them away for the summer.

[Ian Rapoport]

I send them away for the summer, not for school. Although some people do that. I know one of my neighbors actually is from one of those other countries, and he went to school starting at like, seven, like, sleep away school. Like, that's what they. Oh, yeah.

[Boston Conner]

Boarding school. Very legit.

[Darius Butler]

7.

[Boston Conner]

Oh, yeah. AM or in the Northeast, there's. I mean, Bjorn verner. He wasn't 7, but he came over, what, 14, 15 years old.

[Ian Rapoport]

That's so crazy.

[Boston Conner]

And he was. That's like very common prep school, private school, Northeast, like p. I mean, I.

[Darius Butler]

Went to states away.

[Boston Conner]

Oh, I went to countries. I went to state school with a kid who was from Mexico City. High School.

[Ty Schmidt]

I had a foreign exchange. We had a foreign exchange.

[Gable Steveson]

They say Kim Jong Un went to a high school in, like, Switzerland.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Learn something new every day.

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, it seems insane now. I mean, people will say it's insane when I do it to my kids, send them away for seven weeks. So I don't know if everyone's down for that. But I. I justify that. I think it's awesome for them. School seems like sending away for the whole year seems different. No, I was saying for soccer, though, like, what Pat's talking about with, like, their energy. They do not. Nobody has conversations in soccer games. You sit next to you, you cheer, and that is it. And then you also, when it's halftime, you go drink your face off, like, as much as you can at halftime, then you come back.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. Because you can't drink in the seats.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

That's stupid.

[Ian Rapoport]

Stupid.

[Boston Conner]

I mean, soccer is. But just that in general is stupid.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That's wild.

[Ian Rapoport]

I. I may or may not have taken to the Dortmund soccer game. That is going to happen, I think, in MetLife in the summer.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, they always do that. They always do that tour. Yeah.

[Gable Steveson]

All the good guys always play in those ones, right?

[Ian Rapoport]

Marco Royce, Sure.

[Ty Schmidt]

I believe they switch.

[Ian Rapoport]

I have a Marco Royce jersey. I don't think he still plays for.

[I]

Them, but he plays For LA or.

[Ian Rapoport]

LA Galaxy now does he? Yeah, I think I remember. I've actually been following extremely closely, but yeah, it is. Anyway. All right. Dorman's doing well in the Champions League. Are they doing well?

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, we don't care.

[Pat McAfee]

Not in the league.

[Ian Rapoport]

In the Champions League.

[Ty Schmidt]

Take it easy. F1.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. Coming from the F1 guy.

[Darius Butler]

Exactly.

[Ian Rapoport]

I told you I was the fakest F1 guy.

[Darius Butler]

I respect that, though.

[Ian Rapoport]

You watch. I watch my Netflix.

[Darius Butler]

You're going to Montreal. You're going to Canadian, right?

[Ian Rapoport]

We're thinking about. Think about like the guys I was in Montana. Montana with. We're discussing maybe going to a little Montreal.

[Gable Steveson]

Oh, boys trip to Montreal.

[Darius Butler]

I gotta connect you with gay Gabriel.

[Ian Rapoport]

Don't tell Mrs. Sheet. She's not gonna be thrilled. We have not actually. Hopefully she's not watching because I have not mentioned her yet. But we'll see. No, she went on a girls trip to Montana. The same thing. So the girls.

[Boston Conner]

Kind of a double whammy.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, exactly. All right, good stuff. I want to go back to what our good friend Daniel Jeremiah was talking about. I like football and I want to talk about football.

[Boston Conner]

Okay.

[Ian Rapoport]

Which is the quarterback landscape. Right. Because we obviously talked about. We talked about Aaron Rodgers. We talked about where he's going, which I think. I think the Steelers sort of seem like the most likely choice at this point. Although the Giants have certainly not ruled out.

[Ty Schmidt]

He has a visitor.

[Ian Rapoport]

Has. Has not visited the Giants, which I don't know that that really matters.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's never been to MetLife.

[Boston Conner]

He's not going to like competing with Jameis.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, he's not the.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay, it is. I'm just. I'm going through it in my head. And the reaction to Jameis signing with the Giants was so weird to me.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like, he's a starter.

[Ian Rapoport]

I think people maybe didn't watch last last year.

[Ty Schmidt]

What are you talking about?

[Ian Rapoport]

He got beat out. Like he got benched. Right. Is this the same guy?

[Ty Schmidt]

Listen, let's not judge what happens in Cleveland about what happened because also remember Joe Flacco led them to the playoffs, was one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL for that 10 game stretch. And then they said, see you later. So that could happen.

[Boston Conner]

And everyone was loving Denver's defense. What did JMO do? Oh, he just put up a casual 40 on them.

[Ian Rapoport]

I don't understand how that could be the same guy who was not good at his dtr.

[Ty Schmidt]

Listen, Djaring story, he's a great young kid, but like, they benched him for him and.

[Boston Conner]

And they traded and they traded him.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

And then traded him for Kenny Picket.

[Gable Steveson]

They couldn't let Jamis start because they knew what would happen. Hey, this guy's going to take the, the starting quarterback job. He's never going to look back. And we're paying another guy $800 million. So we need to make sure he's out there.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, I was thinking back to. It was the five year anniversary of Brady signing in Tampa this week. Right. And five years already, I mean, which also was like, like that was early Covid. So I remember Brady couldn't get a physical. Had to go to like New York or something like that to get the whole thing was crazy. But I was reminded you talk about like the NFL revisionist or like, you know, going back to sort of like sliding door. What if. Do you guys remember that the Bucks offered Jamis a contract around the time in Mobile because he was going to be a free agent? He didn't accept and then they pivoted to Brady.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, I did not. Like literally offered him after his 30, 30 year.

[Ian Rapoport]

This was right. I think at that. I think it was, it was either pre Lasik or right when he got Lasik. And that was going to fix everything, which it has not had. Jamis accepted the contract. I have like, it's kind of like, I don't know the, the NFL. Like what might have happened had that sliding door closed for the Bucks is like, I don't know. This is what I found myself to do.

[Boston Conner]

Brady playing with Rabel in Tennessee. Maybe. Cuz it. Who was it? It was Darlington. When they, I remember on ESPN they had like a whole entire board and it was like Tennessee was one of the teams. There's one other. I don't know why I can't remember it. And then Darlington. Actually I think it was the.

[Ian Rapoport]

Weren't the Chargers in on it? I think they also made an offer.

[Boston Conner]

Because that's when Philip Rivers left. And then Darlington grabbed the, you know, the pen and he went over and wrote on the led board like Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And that's. I, I assume that was probably around the time that Jamis kind of slid out and then Tampa won a Super Bowl.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. And Brady held up four fingers and people didn't remember, didn't know what down.

[Boston Conner]

It was against the Bears straight on Thursday Night Football.

[Ian Rapoport]

Nick Foles was the starter then in the.

[Boston Conner]

For the Bears.

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He refused to shake his hand for that game too.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh my God. That's.

[Boston Conner]

It's crazy.

[Ian Rapoport]

I respect the pettiness so absolutely much.

[Boston Conner]

The NFL's best. I. I wish someone did the entire entire theory last year where, like, they shouldn't release free agent reports. And then week one, you find out where all these new players go. Like, that's the one rule I would want to impose.

[Darius Butler]

I would be sued.

[Ian Rapoport]

Wait, hold on.

[Boston Conner]

Sweet.

[Ian Rapoport]

Hold on.

[Boston Conner]

So you wouldn't know where free agents sign? You wouldn't know off season trades. You want to know anything? And then week one of the NFL.

[Darius Butler]

Season suck for you.

[Boston Conner]

Boom. Yeah. Your job gets completely.

[Pat McAfee]

We turn.

[Ty Schmidt]

We turn the team.

[Boston Conner]

You're fired.

[Ty Schmidt]

And we're like, holy, Rogers is on the Steelers now.

[Boston Conner]

Dk. He's throwing a dk.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is George Pickens going to be part of that wide receiver core?

[Ian Rapoport]

I think he is. If they. It's not. I want to be careful about the aggregators because I'm aware of. But I would say it's not 100. 100% because there's always a little bit of like, first of all, like, let's say they don't sign Rogers and it's Mace dog. Yeah. Like George Picken's going to be that. That happy. I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

Probably.

[Gable Steveson]

He loves.

[Ty Schmidt]

He loves Mace.

[Ian Rapoport]

Does he?

[Ty Schmidt]

Big fan of Mace.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay.

[Boston Conner]

Although Pickens did say the one guy he'd want to play with is Aaron Rogers.

[Ty Schmidt]

He did say that too.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, those two should be together. If George Pickens is like, if George Pickens is.

[Boston Conner]

That's really. Someone asked him, one teammate you could have, and this is years ago, and he said Aaron Rogers. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Might get it. Might get it.

[Boston Conner]

Pretty cool, man.

[Ian Rapoport]

It's so. The. The angst around Rogers. I find it so hilarious. Like, Pat sort of alluded to it a little bit. It's like everyone's like, why won't you make a decision? And I'm kind of like, what are we going to talk about when he makes a decision? Like, true. Just.

[Boston Conner]

It's all draft. He's the last thing. And then it's all draft.

[Ian Rapoport]

And Russ. What do you mean?

[Boston Conner]

No one's giving.

[Ty Schmidt]

It feels like nobody wants Russ.

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah. You said you're. You're like, that contract is going to be yikes.

[Boston Conner]

Tiny.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

I don't.

[Boston Conner]

I mean, that speaks to how much people care.

[Ty Schmidt]

Now, did I want him to be the Steelers course quarterback again this year? No.

[Ian Rapoport]

Did you want him last year?

[Ty Schmidt]

I talked myself into it. You did. But he didn't. I don't think he played bad enough to get kind of how he's being treated.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Ian Rapoport]

Sorry. My wife just texted me. I guess she Is watching.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, I thought that that face.

[Pat McAfee]

Bye bye. Mount Real won't be going up there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sorry, I thought that was a breaking news face.

[Ian Rapoport]

It's worse. She says you're going nowhere big.

[Darius Butler]

Sorry.

[Ian Rapoport]

Not man.

[Boston Conner]

Good run for you though. Hope you enjoy Montana.

[Ty Schmidt]

She no.

[Ian Rapoport]

What I really. It's not a. As I told her very nicely, it's not a quid pro quo, but I want her to go on all the girls trips she possibly can because I want her to enjoy herself and have a great time with her friends.

[Boston Conner]

Well, and you guys get that cool eight weeks like we talked about, where you send the kids away. Like you guys get to do anything.

[Ian Rapoport]

We have to plan it this year. We got, we got to get on. We've been a little busy. We have to figure out where we're going. It's a whole.

[Ty Schmidt]

You went to Europe last year, right?

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, now she's texting me again. Yeah, went to, went to Europe last year. I learned all the different countries that Pat was talking about.

[Darius Butler]

Of course you did. He did a great job of that. Some we have had this offseason though, some record breaking contracts, market, changing contracts. Miles Garrett, Derek Stingley, Jamar Chase, now they all kind of reset the market. Can we expect any other big time extensions before the draft?

[Ian Rapoport]

Before the draft. I don't know. Talk about the Steelers, right? If, look, T.J. watts got a year left. I know getting something done with him is something that the Steelers want to do. I mean, that's a guy, you know, you want to, you want to make sure he's around till the end of time. So like, could he become the next to eclipse 40? I think he could.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[Boston Conner]

Okay.

[Ian Rapoport]

I think he could.

[Boston Conner]

With Pittsburgh.

[Ian Rapoport]

With Pittsburgh. Because if you're TJ Watt, like, why would you sign unless it's like if you're as good as Miles Garrett, and I think he is, no doubt, then that's what he should be getting.

[Darius Butler]

Is that the consensus around the people that you speak to that he's in that same. I know a lot of people see him, you know, 1A, 1B maybe. And some people that I've talked to may see Miles Garrett as clearly the top guy at this point.

[Ian Rapoport]

Football people.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Numbers would suggest otherwise.

[Darius Butler]

Well, I mean, numbers, you know, numbers are numbers.

[Ian Rapoport]

Numbers don't lie to me.

[Pat McAfee]

It's.

[Ian Rapoport]

It's 1A and, and 1 like. I, I would. I think they're at least comparable, certainly just as decorated. But I think the problem is if you're TJ Watt and let's say you accept a contract that's 35 million a year. Great deal.

[Ty Schmidt]

28.

[Ian Rapoport]

Gonna be rich, whatever it is. Right. But then everyone's gonna know that you're a bit lower. Like, it really does sort of set where you are as far as, like, in the hierarchy. Like, why would you not, like, you want higher?

[Ty Schmidt]

So everyone knows numbers do matter when it comes to contract contracts, for sure. I think.

[Ian Rapoport]

I know.

[Ty Schmidt]

I've never been in a negotiation, but what about Micah?

[Ian Rapoport]

Mike is gonna be higher.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. See, Micah's younger, too.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah. So like six years younger.

[Darius Butler]

How old is T.J. walker?

[Ty Schmidt]

One. I think they're the same age, Miles.

[Boston Conner]

29. But it'll be.

[Ty Schmidt]

Or. Yeah. Like, basically a year apart.

[Darius Butler]

That's a big year.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, it's a big, big.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, Mike is only, like, 25.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, he'll. I think. I think Michael will probably just me assuming Micah probably Hutch probably be the next guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. What about Hutch coming off the broken leg rap sheet? Does that change anything at all?

[Ian Rapoport]

I don't think so. Now? Well, timing wise, I don't think so.

[Pat McAfee]

All right.

[Ian Rapoport]

I'm sorry. Timing wise? Yes. Actual, like, what it'll end up as? I don't think so. Like, the Lions have been very, very proactive in locking up their studs early. Like, Penny St Got a huge deal really early. St. Brow, Amon Ra, Ali, McMahon, Neil. Like, they lock up their guys really early because they're smart. I mean, this is. It's like they. I'm trying to remember what amaz deal. I think 28 million over the first three years average. Right. I think that's what it was.

[Darius Butler]

I thought it was 30. I thought he got to the 30.

[Ian Rapoport]

I think the overall number was 30.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, I think it was four for 120 overall, it was 30.

[Ian Rapoport]

That sounds right. Right. And then 28 over the average. Over the first three. And so, like, that's an awesome deal.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

But they end up saying saving them money because all the receiver deals after, like, Brandon Ayu comes in at 30, and then it's sort of like, well, you'd rather have Amon rather than Brandon Ayuk. Right?

[Boston Conner]

No doubt.

[Ian Rapoport]

Like, so that's. That ends up saving the money. So doing that early. So anyway, I would imagine Hutz gets. Hutch gets done as soon as they are absolutely 100% sure that he's healthy and ready to roll.

[Boston Conner]

What about Purdy? We've been talking about the P contract for, like, two years now, and now it's kind of time, and they've obviously.

[Ian Rapoport]

It'S time moved on from a bunch.

[Boston Conner]

Of people I don't know. Are they. Are they still trying to ship people out of the building? I know IUK was kind of rumored rather by some people to get traded. Is that still happening or are we going to get Purdy this year?

[Ian Rapoport]

It was. Well, first, the IUK thing that was more than rumored, like that was confirmed by John Lynch. That was the craziest thing is like, usually that kind of stuff, like sign a guy to a contract and oh, you might trade him. Usually people are like, ah, that's ridiculous. John lynch was literally like on local radio was like, well, you know, you certainly have to consider everything. I'm like, but, you know, is he going to be ready for the season? Is he going to be healthy? I'm not sure. Like, I could see him sitting out the first couple of games like that was a serious injury he had. So who would trade for someone when you don't know The Browns.

[Boston Conner]

Well said. People have said that. They.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, they actually tried to trade for him last year.

[Boston Conner]

Same in New England.

[Ian Rapoport]

New. Yeah, that's New England. Being the other team for every free agent and every trade. Wide receiver was like my favorite sort of side storyline of legacy.

[Boston Conner]

Me too.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was the Steelers for a while.

[Ian Rapoport]

Until they got D. Obvious.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, you know Stefan Diggs in the building now.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Sounded like that went well.

[Boston Conner]

He didn't sign, so how well could it have gone well?

[Ian Rapoport]

But he's only, only. He's only like four months out from ACL surgery. So like it's. I'm like a. You know, during free agents, free agency is so hectic. Right. You go to the combine and it's like, you might have some drinks, you stay out late. Brain is all.

[Gable Steveson]

Getting a fight with a guy in a Starbucks.

[Ian Rapoport]

I didn't get your pants.

[Boston Conner]

Scream for security.

[Darius Butler]

You know, all those things.

[Ian Rapoport]

All those things. I was so annoyed when people were like, you got into a fight with something. Like. I didn't get into a. A fight with anyone. I just stood there while somebody else tried to get into a fight with me.

[Darius Butler]

Did you. Did you cross your arms or did you.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, cuz you should have ball tapped.

[Ian Rapoport]

Him in a fight cup check. No, I was standing there. I. I carry coffee around all the time at the coma because I'm always so freaking tired. And so I had coffee in one hand. So like, even if there was some sort of something, I probably would have had to like, ruin my suit. But not because of what you said, but because I would have spent they reported that.

[Boston Conner]

I didn't know if that was legit.

[Ian Rapoport]

Who reported that? I think sounds like a Flor.

[Boston Conner]

Is that my Floro?

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah, it might have been. Florio said that, like, the. They had, like, pictures from, like, the hotel. You soiled your, you know, floral pants.

[Boston Conner]

And crying into tissue.

[Ian Rapoport]

That was the only thing Florio had. Literally the whole thing, word for word, like, two hours.

[Gable Steveson]

How many people were in there? It was packed.

[Ian Rapoport]

50.

[Boston Conner]

Holy sh. And everyone, like, record scratch stopped what they're doing.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Holy shit.

[Ian Rapoport]

The most ridiculous thing is, I mean, I guess it doesn't necessarily hurt to say this. It's like, so you've seen the picture, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike Garofalo took the picture and then sent it to literally everyone. I mean, that's not sent to. So it's like, how did this picture get out?

[Ty Schmidt]

I love that move.

[Ian Rapoport]

I know how this picture got out. Like, Garafalo sent it to everyone he knew. And which, like, holy shit. She getting confronted by Jordan Schultz right now. And, like, he's a good friend. You would have thought that he might have been. Doesn't sound like it raps. No, it's like, shouldn't he have jumped in and be like. Instead, he was like, all right, like, let's take this picture. And we all would say, that's good reporting.

[Gable Steveson]

I mean, he knew that was going to.

[Ian Rapoport]

He's all a man.

[Gable Steveson]

This is going to just steal all the headlines this week is all anyone's going to be able to be talking about.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

It was honestly a bad move for him not tweeting it. Who's the third gentleman here? Right.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, Jeremy. Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

So, Jeremy, did he tuck tail or did he jump in, like, stood there? And you were talking to Fowler before Schultz came over and said, what's up, motherfucker?

[Ian Rapoport]

I was talking to an agent, like, who you can't see was actually to the left picture his. There's two agents, one to the left and then one is behind. Yeah, but. Yeah, Fowler. I love Fowler. Like, he just. But he just stood there. How about someone like.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, and Schultz has the tweet. He's that right. Eyes on.

[Gable Steveson]

He's got the crazy eyes going.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, big time.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Yep.

[Ian Rapoport]

And you can see me kind of like.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. Leaning left, like, geez, weirdo, get away from me.

[Darius Butler]

Is this the first time some, like, this has happened to you in your career? Is that. Yeah, yeah.

[Boston Conner]

I mean, didn't Dellinger confront you after you tried to have sex with his wife?

[Ian Rapoport]

What? It's not try to have no. That is a no. She changed her name to sex.

[Boston Conner]

Oh, I forgot. Weird.

[Darius Butler]

Like, guy's wife is watching.

[Boston Conner]

He told the story on the phone.

[Ian Rapoport]

His wife is like a very well respected White House reporter, by the way. And I'm sure she's not watching, but.

[Pat McAfee]

If she is, well, I'm glad we're.

[Boston Conner]

Getting this out of the way then, because that's the rumor you started on the show.

[Darius Butler]

Clear it up.

[Ian Rapoport]

I start lots of rumors.

[Ty Schmidt]

God, that's your job.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, it's part of it.

[Ian Rapoport]

The people are always like, you know, can you believe? Like, you, like, was that weird to be, like, in the center of all that in the combine? I'm like, I'm in the center of nonsense all the time.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, true. It feels like it's free agency week, week before you do.

[Ty Schmidt]

Love nonsense.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, this is why I'm in it. Like, I was. I mean, not. That is the reason.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure.

[Ian Rapoport]

That was the first time that's ever happened. Usually people, if they have like a. Like an actual beef, we'll be like, can we talk about this? Like, you know.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure. You mean, let's.

[Ian Rapoport]

Let's sit and discuss as, like, gentlemen?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

That was not a.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was a very gentleman.

[Boston Conner]

Do you get sick of it? Like, how long do you think you'll keep going?

[Ty Schmidt]

Can you take a shower?

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. It's so much. And like, when wo's retired, I feel like it did kind of give some people the perspective of, like, oh, this stuff completely takes. Takes over insiders, lives, like, woe. His whole entire thing about, you know, his friend's funeral, and he was like, holy, I need to legitimately change my life. And that's why he left.

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah. He couldn't take a piss anymore.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Couldn't shower.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, poop. I do all those things.

[Ty Schmidt]

You shower?

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, I showered this morning, but.

[Boston Conner]

Are you just anxious doing it?

[Ian Rapoport]

No, I have my phone with me all the time.

[Boston Conner]

In the shower.

[Ian Rapoport]

In the shower.

[Boston Conner]

Okay.

[Ian Rapoport]

Every time and every, like, going. If you got to take a piss, it's a great time because you come out, you check your phone, and you do your thing.

[Ty Schmidt]

You put it one of those, like, beach lanyards that you put in a plastic. Plastic Ziploc bag.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, I just let it ride. But when I was skiing, I had an attachment on, like a. It was tethered to my ski jacket so I could check on the lift.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. That's smart.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay. Yeah. No, did you have, like, the homeless.

[Gable Steveson]

Guy gloves sliced off at the top so you could still use your fingies?

[Boston Conner]

If you needed to.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, boy. Sticky Bandits caught that. Yeah, exactly.

[Gable Steveson]

The Marv merchants, if you will.

[Ian Rapoport]

I.

[Boston Conner]

They sell Marv ones.

[Ian Rapoport]

Those. Those. Watching those idiots fall on the traps is still one of my favorite sequences.

[Boston Conner]

Best part of Christmas every year.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, I still, like. My humor is not exactly, like, high brow. There we go.

[Boston Conner]

Bang.

[Darius Butler]

Classic.

[Ian Rapoport]

The Marvel ones must be very weird for them to be like, Joe Pesci is like a legitimately accomplished actor who. And this. I don't know if it's his most famous role, but it's definitely in the top.

[Boston Conner]

He's like a goat farmer now. He actually just dead serious.

[Ian Rapoport]

Is he a goat farmer?

[Gable Steveson]

Daniel Stern?

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. The guy on the right.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. Joe Pen is a goat farmer.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Gable Steveson]

He has like a massive farm and, like, does like, like art inside, like this massive warehouse. Yeah, he's kind of off the grid. Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

Like Giovani Karmazi.

[Ian Rapoport]

Giovani Karmazi's off the grid? Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

He's go.

[Ian Rapoport]

Huh?

[Boston Conner]

No, no, no. One of the Brady six. Oh, the quarterback that the Niners drafted that thought Brady was going to be him.

[Ty Schmidt]

Gino Gadoli.

[Boston Conner]

No.

[Darius Butler]

Thought Geo went off the grid.

[Ian Rapoport]

There was a guy. Do you guys know who Jack Johnson is? Singer.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, of course. Banana.

[Gable Steveson]

Banana pancakes.

[Ian Rapoport]

Come on, dude. My wife and I danced to that at our wedding. By the way.

[Boston Conner]

That was your song.

[Ian Rapoport]

That was. That was our. Our couple song.

[Boston Conner]

That was your wedding song.

[Ian Rapoport]

It's good.

[Boston Conner]

Banana pancake.

[Ty Schmidt]

Waking up to her.

[Darius Butler]

Jack Johnson. I don't know.

[Ian Rapoport]

Anyway, I hear he is an avocado farmer now. Has, like, taken himself completely off the grid and is like a wildly successful cow.

[Ty Schmidt]

Avocados from me. Mexico.

[Boston Conner]

Those are from.

[Ian Rapoport]

From. Yeah.

[Gable Steveson]

He still lives in Hawaii though, right?

[Ian Rapoport]

Does he? I do.

[Gable Steveson]

So he's touring a couple years.

[Ian Rapoport]

His vibe seems like Hawaii. I don't know. Anyway, that would be. I mean, it's like. Talk about the Woj thing.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

The amount of people who've asked me, like, oh, are you gonna, you know, retire and become like a GM of college? I was like, that's not me.

[Gable Steveson]

Like GM of the Columbia Cruise.

[Boston Conner]

I would be Lions.

[Ian Rapoport]

Do we need. Do we have nil deals? No, I would change the game.

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

25 bucks in new OR for your boat. I get it done.

[Ian Rapoport]

There's money in crew.

[Boston Conner]

I know.

[Ian Rapoport]

You go. You go do crew and then you become like an investment banker or something. That's what everybody does.

[Boston Conner]

So it's not in crew. It's in the people in crew. I know what you're saying. So is Purdy going to get paid?

[Ian Rapoport]

What do you think? Oh yeah, Purdy, that's. I think he's going to get paid. The contract is so hard because, because it's like. I think what you'd sort of like is like, all right, well he, he made almost no money the whole time, so like maybe he'll sort of inch his way up. But like all those guys, like he should be in the 50s, right?

[Darius Butler]

Yep.

[I]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

But I think when people think about him, they talk about him more like he's a 30s or 40s, not a lot. You know what I mean?

[Boston Conner]

People do. Oh yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

They talk about him like he's going to get like a Darnold Contractor, a.

[Ian Rapoport]

Baker contract, except it's like if you didn't know where he got. And I hate, I hate, I hate this about the draft because like, because he was drafted last.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

People still think about him like he's the last pick, but it's like who's more accomplished, Justin Herbert or Brock? Purdy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Purdy.

[Gable Steveson]

Purdy.

[Boston Conner]

I mean Purdy's more accomplished than basically everybody up there except for Jalen Hurts.

[Ian Rapoport]

And Lamar and Jared. God. Burrow similar, right?

[Boston Conner]

Jared Go. I would say Burrow's similar, but I would damn near put Per to either Adam or above them.

[Ian Rapoport]

Right. I mean that's. But that's. But this is the problem because no one, I mean you saw this like, it's like players get dis. Oh no. Players get discussed from their draft.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. That draft position sticks with you for. That's why we saw. Partly why we saw Stingley just reset the market the way he did. He was a number three overall pick. He lived up to the. All the most. The guys that kind of break that barrier and reset markets usually those are top tier first round type picks and that just sticks with you throughout. Miles Garrett, obviously, he's been great first overall pick. You don't expect that from him. That's why Hutch. Hutch be the next guy. Michael Parson, same thing. But I think Brock Pie will definitely jump into that 50, 50 year. I don't think anybody in the next couple years would jump that 60 million mark. Once Josh Allen kind of redid his deal and stayed at 55, I think that's kind of going to hold. Hold it back.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Four.

[Boston Conner]

Sure.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Hold him back. You mean that's.

[Darius Butler]

No, the next guy. I mean the, the salary cap, it jumps up so much next year. So I'm sure there will be a guy soon. But once I think that surprised me that Josh Allen took that 55 a year. Obviously the guarantees are huge. But that gap right now, where Dak is at, I don't think anybody jumps that. Just, just like Miles Garrett, just like Stingley with that big five million dollar a year gap. I think that'll, that'll remain at least for another year.

[Ian Rapoport]

How, how about Lamar? Yeah, got a big number coming up. Big cap number coming up.

[Ty Schmidt]

What about Patrick?

[Boston Conner]

What about Mahomes? Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Oh yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Mahomes is tougher because he took, took the long deal obviously to help, you know, during. To help them build. But I do wonder if at some point like with trying to figure out where the Josh Allen deal comes in is tough because basically what they did is something no teams ever do. They ripped up the deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Deal.

[Ian Rapoport]

They just said we're going to give you a new deal and it's 55. Right. Instead of like we're going to attack on two years and in many years you're going to be at 60. Took a new real deal that like, you know that, that with three years left, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Ian Rapoport]

With. I think it was four years. Okay, four years left, you know. And so like would Mahomes do that knowing it might hurt the Chiefs? As far as far as like player acquisition, Like, I don't know that he would. I think he's more of along. I think he's more along the Brady plan of like, you guys can say I'm undervalued but I'm going to keep competing for shoot bowls, you know.

[Gable Steveson]

Don't you think he's good enough though? Where like even the guys they bring in and like they bring in some of these older veterans who aren't going to be making a bunch of money anyway. It's like, it's not like D Hop was going to be getting a ton of money from them. Like he could be like, you know what it's been, I've done this enough. Like I'm already the, the, the best quarterback in the NFL. Arguably the, one of the best court, maybe the best quarterback ever. Like this time I'm the highest paid guy in the NFL and I'll, I'll make the guys we bring in better anyway.

[Ian Rapoport]

God, I think about this all the time. I mean you like if you're Mahomes, like do you get annoyed? And I think Brady, I mean you knew him better than I did but like I don't think he cared really about, about what people said about. I mean he took below market deals for years.

[Boston Conner]

Oh yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Did he? I mean it didn't seem like he cared. Right.

[Darius Butler]

He didn't seem like. But for homes not to be on this like as long as this, it's crazy. It's. That's, that's asinine. And obviously Brady and all these big time franchise. Yeah. They got so much shit going on off the field for him, you know, endorsement wise and things like that, that they're going to be good and you know, you know, part of the people that represent, you know, my homes and all those things. But for him not to be on this deal and this obviously list will only get longer is crazy.

[Ian Rapoport]

At this point you guys were talking about. I didn't even, I, I didn't even think about it. He's literally not on there.

[Boston Conner]

I don't even think he's close.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's like 40 something or obviously. Obviously.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, his deal was kind of.

[Gable Steveson]

Funky last year, but so maybe he doesn't care. But like also that's, you know, like I, I can't imagine if he sees this and he's just like all, whatever. I've won a couple Super Bowls. It's like.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, I, I mean like we were talking about with, with the edge rushers. It's like sum of money is what you are not worth money wise. But like your ranking. So like I like to your point, like I kind of wonder. I don't know, like, we know he's the best. Where's. Where's he at? What's the. So 40. Yeah, I mean, that was the original deal. And then where's the cash? Can you hit the cash button? There we go.

[Boston Conner]

So yeah, 40.

[Ian Rapoport]

So 50. So 50 this year. Yeah, so 45 and a half last year or whatever. So 50 this year. But like would be a good time. I mean he's got, you know, a cap number that's large. This would be a good time for it. I just don't know, like, is he gonna demand it, do you think? He just doesn't give a fuck or he's happy.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Maybe he wants people to be like, this is the least, least selfish guy because like he's made money.

[Gable Steveson]

He's making a lot, a lot of money outside of the NFL as well.

[Darius Butler]

I was a couple of teams, I'll.

[Gable Steveson]

Say with that car ownership, Royals and soccer team.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's my whole thing though, because I know he's into that stuff and more money definitely helps bring it in too much. Like if he wants to be in ownership groups for teams, more money would definitely help with that.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, and like Brady, you know, it's Brady Obviously gets some criticism or whatever you'd call it for being part owner of the Raiders. And obviously he's with Fox, and it's sort of like, you know, like, Florio rips him all the time, for better or worse. I wonder if that's going to be sort of the new currency to be, like, when you're Mahomes and you see Brady doing it, and God forbid he wins in Vegas. Like, is Mahomes going to be, like, what's my team? Because everyone talked about Peyton Manning doing this. Never did it with Denver. Yeah. Or like, I think we thought with Tennessee Saints maybe don't. It was Tennessee. That's right. Where people. We kind of thought he would buy and he didn't. Like, I wonder if Mahomes is like, this is me. Like, this is my next kind of frontier. But you're right. You need money for that, so.

[Darius Butler]

A lot of it.

[Boston Conner]

The NFL, baby.

[Ian Rapoport]

I don't know. I. I would say, like, to. To Brady. And I was thinking about this because I was in, you know, where I was skiing, there was a lot of Brady talk and actually talking about the Jordan Schultz thing. I did talk to a source, really close source, who witnessed the Brady Rogers meeting on the slopes. Literally witnessed it. And I was told, according to a source, they skied into each other. Not like into each other, but chatted, skied together, and then that was it. Good source.

[Boston Conner]

Did they race?

[Gable Steveson]

They probably had to have raced.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they raced.

[Darius Butler]

They didn't talk about it, but they just did it.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, I assume Brady's pretty good skier, right?

[Boston Conner]

Oh, yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, he's not that great of a golfer. You think he'd be better?

[Boston Conner]

He's pretty good.

[Ty Schmidt]

Not bad.

[Gable Steveson]

He's hit that hole in one, remember, from the middle of the fairway.

[Ian Rapoport]

All right. Was this the drone shot?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember?

[Boston Conner]

That was real.

[Gable Steveson]

So, I don't know. Is he a good golfer? I think.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, he's probably better than me, I assume. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, but. But anyway, like, I want, you know, the. The Brady angst over his Vegas stint. Like, I kind of wonder if he. If he makes them good, if he helps them be good. Like, I think this is going to be probably the biggest story in football is, like, led them back, helped hire Pete Carroll, got Gino, who. We'll see what he is. But, like, I don't know. Like, I. I mean, I don't know how bullish you guys are on Brady and the Brady ownership and Brady steering of these. Of this team. But I think it's going to be pretty freaking interesting going forward.

[Boston Conner]

Definitely high on it. But you know, Denver, Chargers, Chiefs.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

Tough to be. Do we think any of those teams are getting worse? I think Brady is a great story. I think it is cool. And I don't think it really matters what he does in Vegas because he's already, you know, the greatest of all time. But it's like, are any of those three teams doing worse?

[Ty Schmidt]

But ownership is. He could. This is in 10 years. He could turn around.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. Freaking 30 years.

[Darius Butler]

If he brings the Raiders to the national contention or contending for titles and in the next however many years or there year after year, like, that'll be as impressive as what he'd done as a football player.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

With what the Raiders. With the. What the Raiders have been for the last, what, a couple decades?

[Ty Schmidt]

25 years.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. @ least since just when baby. I feel like Al Davis days. If he brings them back to promise because Raiders, you know, is a iconic brand, you know, in the NFL. But if he does that from the ownership level, you know, gets a team in there that can contend, you know, as decades year. You talk about how tough that division is in the same division as Patrick Mahomes, who is in most opinion the second greatest quarterback right now. That'll be. Wow, that'll be crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

Put some respect on Rich Gannon's name. I think 2001 foremost, but 2001.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

So how.

[Boston Conner]

How. How do you think they do do that? Like. No, with is G. Do you think Gino, like right now? Oh, looking at the team like, I.

[Darius Butler]

Think it'll be better be better be competitive.

[Ty Schmidt]

They still got great pieces there than Geno Smith.

[Darius Butler]

No, I do not. Absolutely not.

[Boston Conner]

But it will be.

[Gable Steveson]

It'll be the next iteration because Pete Carroll's only going to be around for probably like four more years tops. Like, he's not coaching into his 80s.

[Ian Rapoport]

I was thinking three would be like. And. And that's why I think so.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Or 70, something like that.

[Boston Conner]

Turn in 73, I think.

[Ian Rapoport]

And that's why it was so interesting. And like, it's funny, like, culture is like, you know, culture is like so insanely important and I don't know how good they're going to be this year. My guess is better because certainly we're not going to be worse.

[Boston Conner]

It's an easy guess. Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean that's not exactly going on, but like. Right. But like getting someone to teach everyone the culture and understand how to like be a professional is so much of it. Like the stories you would hear out of the Raider years building the last couple years, not exactly a bastion of professionalism. Like, not great. And like, even people who did a really good job there, like Dave Ziggle was the gm. I would argue he drafted well. Tesco drafted really well his one draft. But like, there was so much other clutter, noise, nonsense dealing with all the time that, like.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, now they also have the whiz kid at gm, too.

[Ian Rapoport]

So that's. I think that'll be good, too.

[Gable Steveson]

Jimbo Gladstone was with the.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well before Jimbo Gladstone got hired. The whiz kid.

[Ian Rapoport]

Spytech.

[Ty Schmidt]

John Spytech.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. One of the Bucks. Bucks disciples.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Tom met him down in Tampa and said, well, this guy's the Wiz kid.

[Boston Conner]

So, like, what would you say is bringing them back success, you're saying this.

[Darius Butler]

Year or next five, ten years.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Competing like playoffs every year and then.

[Boston Conner]

So, like a consistent thing. Not like a confidence.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, consist. Yeah. Consistent. And should. He's the ownership. So he's going to be there, I would assume, for a while. And if he's coming in day one and Mark Davis is kind of giving him. It seems like from what we've heard that, hey, you're kind of running the show. And for the next, you know, 5, 10, 15, once again, Pete Carroll era will be short. We all assume. Gino, we don't know how long he'll be there, but if you get a coach, gm, quarterback, and you have. Have, like, okay, the Raiders are in the conversation, you're in and you're out and then actually competing, you know, AFC titles, you know, division wins, like, finishing fourth every year. Yeah, that'll be Brock. I mean, they got some pieces. Max is still there. Brock Bowers is still there.

[Ian Rapoport]

I kind of wondered if Max would kind of be like, well, I wonder.

[Gable Steveson]

If that's part of the reason why they get someone like Pete, like a serious head coach who can kind of stabilize things and get them going in the right direction. Because, like, one more year of them being really bad, he might have been like, this place. I. I want to go win somewhere.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, like, going into the. It's funny, like, I always look back at our, like, super bowl storylines. Like, well, we talked about Super Bowl Sunday and it was like, is Max Crosby going to stay or is he going to ask to be traded? Is Micah going to stay or is he going to. And, like, it seems like everyone probably stays. I mean, we got some good clicks out of it, but it seems like everyone stays. But, like, that was really a question. It's like, is he going to believe in this place enough to where, like, I'll actually stick around? And the other thing thing was, is we all thought that Gino was going to get an extension in Seattle. And this was like, the arc of this was so crazy because, like, free agency week. It's like, I knew they were having negotiations with Gino. I knew they weren't getting anywhere. I knew it was like. Sounds like it was like a full communication breakdown in Seattle with Gino. And then all of a sudden, you start to hear confidence from these Sam darling world of like, okay, wait a minute. Like, something is going on. And, like, that's how we ended up figuring out that he was going to be traded. Because it was like, hold on. Like, I remember here. We heard of a secret conversation with Raiders in Seattle during the combine where they talked about a Geno trade that involves Metcalf and Max. I think if I remember this correctly, everyone kind of laughed about it, but they didn't stop talking. It was just kind of like, whoa, that's crazy. And I was like, all right, if their secret conversations there, if they're ready to move on from Geno because they didn't get a contract extension, like, what the heck is going on? And then trading him and Darnold was like, once that happens, like, that's obviously where Darnold's going.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

So did the other teams make offers to Darnold, or was that the best offer?

[Ian Rapoport]

I think that was. I think that was the only offer. I think it was, because I don't. It wasn't like. It wasn't like Gino was on the block. It was like, this team has engaged. And then I think they were sort of like, all right, we know each other. Obviously, Pete and John know each other.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, I mean, for Darnold. Was that the only offer Darnold got?

[Ian Rapoport]

It wasn't the only offer, but it was the only offer close to there. Well, I. I don't know that there were other formal offers, I would say, but, like, it did seem like. Like, unless it was. That's not true. Vikings had an offer.

[Boston Conner]

They offered him. Vikrakers had an offer, but it wasn't that close.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, their offer, the Vikings offer, I believe, was more in the twenties.

[Boston Conner]

How many years?

[Darius Butler]

Damn.

[Ian Rapoport]

I think it was one.

[Boston Conner]

Oh. So they wanted to give him just like, a tag, but half a tag.

[Ian Rapoport]

I think that's what it was. So, like, they were actually. I know the Vikings were, like, considering tagging him. Darnold and Then it's like, tag him. Tag him to trade him. And then they didn't end up doing it because there wouldn't. Wouldn't have been a market.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Ready to go to jj? Yeah, but you offer that, you don't tag. Like, you're ready to go to jj. But what about Gino now that he's traded? Where are the conversations with Vegas in the new deal?

[Ian Rapoport]

Doesn't sound like they've really kind of got off. Got off the thing. Like, I don't. I mean, I'm. I'm sure they start. I mean, I was actually surprised. Like, I would have thought a, like a deal would have come with the trade because that's. If you're, you know, that'd be a way to do it. But. But I mean, maybe they don't. Maybe. I mean, I don't know. They'll make them play it out. But that gets interesting if that happens because it's like. Yeah, then they're in the same situation the Vikings were in with Darnold where it's like, do we tag him? Do we keep going? Like, do we move on? Like, I don't know, maybe we see.

[Darius Butler]

How the draft plays out.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say because obviously Brady in New England, if Hunter and Carter are gone and Shadir is there at 4, could you see vacation? Brady and New England trade and they go back to six and then, you know, take whoever the fuck is there.

[Ian Rapoport]

And the Raiders trade up.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, Raiders go to four, New England goes to six.

[Ian Rapoport]

I. I don't think. I hate doing this with the draft because, like, everyone lies.

[Boston Conner]

It's all just fodder. Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

But I don't believe that the Raiders consider any quarterback to be that high.

[Boston Conner]

Okay.

[Ian Rapoport]

Like, so I don't think they would come up now maybe if Cam Ward suddenly was there. But that's what's like so interesting. And I think Daniel Jarrett, I did a really good job of explaining it is like the prospects are good, the middle of the draft is good. But like it feels to me now that Shedor. And then a little bit later, like maybe a couple other quarterbacks maybe. But like it like Jackson Dart sort of be in the 20s maybe. But it doesn't seem like there's that many high end. So it's like, like he's right. Like if Shador doesn't go three, that's the biggest story of the draft.

[Boston Conner]

And we know J goes.

[Darius Butler]

We assume Jacksonville is not taking the quarterback two with Lawrence, so. And Brady, I mean, he Knows Shador.

[Ian Rapoport]

Can we see the draft order again?

[Boston Conner]

Well, and yeah. Like the whole Shador Gino thing and the fact that they haven't given him a deal.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. Makes sense.

[Ty Schmidt]

There's a chance if he doesn't go three. That, you know. Or saints at nine, like 29.

[Ian Rapoport]

I've thought about.

[Boston Conner]

I mean, Jets. I'd say jets at seven. Yeah. Talking about anybody that needs a quarterback with. Especially with players like Garrett Wilson, who are one of those, hey, I'm not going to sit around on a shitty team.

[Pat McAfee]

Go get your door.

[Ian Rapoport]

That would help.

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean, Fields didn't get bad money there. He didn't get started. 20, was it 20 million or so?

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. I mean, he got good money. That's most money. But you're right, it's not like. It's not like, all right, we're set at quarterback. Like now, I happen to be a big Fields fan, so I think he's going to be. I think he's going to play well. I mean, him and Breeze hall and Garrett Wilson.

[Boston Conner]

Oh, yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, that's. But. But I mean, there's. There's a lot of teams that like, sort of could use one. Like, the Saints are an interesting one to me. They're doing all the quarterback homework. I could see them. I know he mentioned the Browns being a team that could come back. I could see the Saints coming back into the first round, trying to take one late, you know? Cause like, that'll be Jackson Dart will be sitting there. Quinn Ewers, who's got his pro date tomorrow. Like, might he be a late one? Maybe someone could come up. Like, I don't know.

[Boston Conner]

Because there's six teams in the top 10 that need courtbacks. The first three and then Raiders, Jets, Saints.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. Which, like, it's funny, like, from my standpoint, like, all I want is just draft chaos. Right?

[Boston Conner]

Of course.

[Ian Rapoport]

Absolute. Like, that's why, like, we're talking about the Will Anderson trade. It's like that was freaking chaos. Like, count me in for that. But if we see, like, if Shador slides. Biggest story of the draft right there. Like, no doubt about it. And then it's like. Cause the crazy thing for him. And you guys will have to let me know what you think of this. But this is what I think about if Shador Sanders goes to a team without a fully solid coach, with a coach who might be on the hot seat, he goes there. Is anyone talk, like, how many times are we going to mention, could Deion be the coach of this team next year? A lot Right, Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Boston Conner]

No doubt.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, that's.

[Darius Butler]

That was a big conversation storyline with Dallas and he was, he was. In my opinion, he was obviously never going to Dallas with that contract, but that was still a big conversation. Hey, Dallas, you replaced Mike McCarthy, Dion, Shador. So yeah, that is definitely. You always talk certain prospects, prospects and then certain players, even, you know, once they. It's just other. That comes with them. Good, better and different. Aaron Rodgers. It's going to be. A lot of that comes with Aaron Rogers, Tim Tebow, towards the end of his career, you signed to be a tight end, a backup quarterback. It's going to be a lot of Cam Newton. It's going to be a lot of that comes with certain people. I think it's going to be the same with Shador. So, yeah, that's. That's a, It's a fair point. And obviously owners and people are tuned to what's going on with Sar story. They probably love it, though.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. And that was like the let Dak walk lock thing because his contract wasn't really locked in. It was like, hey, this guy could be a free agent. And then they just trade up and trash your door and hire Dion. But if you had a bet right.

[Ian Rapoport]

Now, which obviously I don't.

[Boston Conner]

Which you can't. Yeah. Would you say shoulders going in because Gambor's going one. It feels like that feels like. Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Whether it's Titans or not.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

And I, And I. I think the Titans are still in evaluation mode on whether they're going to trade or pick. Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

If it's not Titans, who is it?

[Ian Rapoport]

Giants probably would be. My guess.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is Bill Levis on the market, then?

[Ian Rapoport]

He's not on the market, but I would say he's definitely someone I'm watching. Like, I think there's a couple backup quarterbacks which. Look, he was benched last year, so I think it's fair to characterize him as. I think there's a couple guys that I'm sort of monitoring to be like, all right, like you mentioned Aiden O'Connell, like, could, like, didn't come in with Pete. Teams need a bat. Like, could he be on the move? Like, I think there's Carson.

[Gable Steveson]

Malik Willis.

[Boston Conner]

Malik Willis.

[Ian Rapoport]

Malik. Although Malik Willis played well last year.

[Gable Steveson]

That's what I'm saying. You wonder if second round pick, first round pick who came in did not lose a game.

[Ty Schmidt]

First round pick.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Maybe two. First round.

[Gable Steveson]

There's a. There's certainly a chance. There's certainly a world in which that happens.

[Boston Conner]

I mean, Joe Milton Joe Milton's going for first.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, Joe Milton is very, very interesting. Which would you, you follow them as closely as anyone I know. What would you think of a Milton trade? Are you well?

[Boston Conner]

I'm good. Go ahead.

[Ian Rapoport]

You go ahead.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Tell me why personally. Give me your argument.

[Boston Conner]

My perfect draft for the Patriots. Well, they already brought in Dobbs, so why carry three quarterbacks? But my perfect draft for the Patriots is they take a, you know, Hunter or Jinty or Tyler Warren or something at four.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay.

[Boston Conner]

And then trade back in to the first round towards the end and take one of those, you know, the Oregon tackle or one of those type of tackles that they really love. And you, you know, you really wouldn't have to give up that 38 pick because, you know, you trade Joe Milton for a third, would you say, you know, 2/3, get you back into the back half of the.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, I think that's probably right.

[Boston Conner]

You know what I mean? So like, then you still have a pick in every single round. You're giving up Joe Miller, Milton, and you're giving up, let's just say 69 because it's the higher pick.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, that's why you pick 69?

[Boston Conner]

No, I picked 69 just because, you know, I don't think 77 and Joe Milton get you there. But maybe, you know, saying that top 70 pick does. And so then all of a sudden you're getting two first round guys and at 38, you know, everyone's talking about Abdul Carter at 38, then you're getting one of those top pass rushers. So you're legitimately getting a, you know, top tier player right at the top with a Hunter or a Ginty or someone there to help Drake May. You're getting a tackle in the back half of that, you know, first round, whoever that is. And then you're also getting a pass rusher, which, you know, I would put third in the list of things that the Patriots need just because Harold Landry, Milton Williams, Keon White, Christian Barmore, that would be. Is that for the Patriots?

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

So a lot of people say Donovan Jackson saved Ohio State season because of all the O line injuries and he basically was the rock on that.

[Boston Conner]

On an island. Yeah. So. And like Travis Hunter, like all, all cases is definitely who I, I would want the Patriots to get and I would. He's wide receiver one, and then he comes in, you know, in the red zone to play corner, and then we just lock it down.

[Ian Rapoport]

It's so in like it's. I was, I mean, I don't know, I felt surprised to hear Daniel Jeremiah say that. Like I say that he would be.

[Darius Butler]

A. I'll turn the card in.

[Ty Schmidt]

So I've. I've listened to DJ on and move the sticks a ton. Him and Bucky and then also Field and Kuiper. They all say that if Travis Hunter was just a wide receiver, he would be the number one riders receiver in this draft class by far.

[Ian Rapoport]

Crazy.

[Ty Schmidt]

It would be a top 10 wide receiver by far.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

If he was just wide receiver.

[Boston Conner]

So that's why I would want. And we don't need him at corner. You got on Gonzalez and Carlton.

[Ian Rapoport]

I know but like if he is a lockdown corner, him and Gonzalez playing it in the dude.

[Boston Conner]

I mean, that's why I think the red zone. You bring him in and then it's just like, okay, you have to throw it. You. You leave Gonzo on an island. Hear me out here.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay.

[Boston Conner]

You leave Gonzo on an island. You double whoever Carlton Davis is on and then you leave Hunter on an island and you send eight and you make him throw it at. You make him throw it at. Engage it. Engage 8. Throw it at Travis Hunter. Let's see if we can get a couple red zone picks. That is legitimately what I would do. But also if Hunter and Abdul Carter are gone, I think Jeanty would be awesome because like, look what just happened, you know, the last two Super Bowls. God running the ball.

[Ty Schmidt]

Loves a running back.

[Boston Conner]

He loves good running back. You know, Ramandre Stevenson and him, you know, that kind of. That kind of has shade to David Montgomery and Jameer Gibbs, wouldn't you say?

[Ian Rapoport]

I would. I would. Huh. Tell you that much.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Think about it.

[Ian Rapoport]

Rap. The fact that a running back could be taken so early and no one's like laughing is amazing. Like it has come all the way.

[Boston Conner]

It's flipped. D.J.

[Ty Schmidt]

Thinks there's a chance that him or Genti and Amari on Hampton both go in the top 10. 6 or Genti 6.

[Darius Butler]

He has Gent special too.

[Ty Schmidt]

And then Hampton attended the Bears potentially.

[Ian Rapoport]

That's interesting. God Bears.

[Darius Butler]

I don't know.

[Boston Conner]

Connor was. They would have been better Bears.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, I, I. Bears are another team. I was actually thinking when you guys were talking all about. We were all talking about Gino. Like people ask me, like, you know, who's the team that could. I mean, I feel like it's always the Bears. Yeah. Seahawks would be one that I was thinking of Bears again, like with the Ben Johnson addition and like feel like it's gonna. I feel like they could be pretty good.

[Gable Steveson]

Say that every year with the Bears.

[Ian Rapoport]

Has it been every year?

[Pat McAfee]

It's our year, though. It's our year.

[Gable Steveson]

Pretty much.

[Boston Conner]

Sure Been them for a lot.

[Gable Steveson]

Packers fan. So, yeah, I'm pretty sure that every off season, say, see if the Bears in free agency. Bears might win 10 games of sh.

[Ian Rapoport]

There were years. Look, these.

[Boston Conner]

Those top four teams, I feel like there's just one clear team that has the best chance next year.

[Ty Schmidt]

Titans.

[Boston Conner]

I think we know which team. I'm talking about commanders. They're not in the top four.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, that is.

[Boston Conner]

That is. Is clearly New England, my friend.

[Ian Rapoport]

Okay, so you think. I mean, there is one. One every year who jumps out and has.

[Boston Conner]

Like, it's happened the last two years.

[Ian Rapoport]

I said commanders. I was thinking of the commanders as that team.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah. And the year before is the Texans. They had the 2 pick. I'm just saying.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm just saying.

[Gable Steveson]

I mean, the Bears are going to be much better than 5 and 12.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

That's for sure.

[Ian Rapoport]

Probably.

[Gable Steveson]

Who knows, though? You know Jimbo Gladstone and Liam Cohen.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Gable Steveson]

They might flip that thing around. Around.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. Quarterback.

[Boston Conner]

I mean, Houston's got half an O line now.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, I like that Gladstone. I have no idea how good he is going to be. I mean, it seems like he has.

[Boston Conner]

McVeigh loves him.

[Ian Rapoport]

McVeigh does love him.

[Boston Conner]

Said he was a dog.

[Ian Rapoport]

He has, but he is a little bit like. Like, McVeigh got hired too early by the Rams, but they were like, he's special and we don't care. Like, we'll work with it because.

[Darius Butler]

What do you mean too early?

[Ian Rapoport]

Well, so 30 years old. But no, but like, when he. When the Rams are interviewing him, everyone said the same thing. They're like, he is. It's. He's not ready. It's too young. But we have to hire him because we might lose him. And I'm sort of like, why would you hire a 29? But turned out to be one of the best.

[Gable Steveson]

Les Sneed said that when we had him on the show last week. He was like, in retrospect, we probably should have hired him earlier. So we probably should have hired him when he was 28.

[Ian Rapoport]

God, Les does so many things that seem at the time to make zero sense and then just crushes it. Mad scientist who's done.

[Gable Steveson]

He's probably gonna take a piss.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, we have been standing here for a very long time.

[Gable Steveson]

More poop.

[Boston Conner]

More poop.

[Gable Steveson]

He could have to poop. I think he had steak and eggs this morning. That's kind of A recipe for a.

[Boston Conner]

Little fettuccine Alfredo right after.

[Gable Steveson]

Yeah, exactly. That's kind of a big dump recipe that's gonna happen.

[Ian Rapoport]

We got six minutes left. I don't know if he's gonna come back. Is that.

[Pat McAfee]

That.

[Ian Rapoport]

Do we have to say goodbye to him if he doesn't come back?

[Boston Conner]

No, I don't think so.

[Darius Butler]

You're running the show.

[Boston Conner]

You're steer it in this boat.

[Pat McAfee]

What'd you call him?

[Boston Conner]

Oh, no.

[Ian Rapoport]

God damn it. Went through the whole show.

[Boston Conner]

So close.

[Pat McAfee]

What the man.

[Ian Rapoport]

Wow. That hurts. You did it to me on air.

[Darius Butler]

Austin guy, too.

[Boston Conner]

We're at the league meetings last year.

[Ian Rapoport]

I remember. It hurt my soul.

[Boston Conner]

I'm sorry. Rap sheet. You know how I feel about you.

[Ian Rapoport]

I appreciate that.

[Boston Conner]

I fucked up.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Boston Conner]

Listen up.

[Ian Rapoport]

You gotta own it. That's.

[Boston Conner]

I mean, hand up, no excuses.

[Ian Rapoport]

I fucked up. It's all right. You know, when I was covering in the locker room, you always appreciated those guys who give up a big play and stand up and go, that's on me.

[Boston Conner]

So that's on me. That's what I do. You know, I've never shot away from that. I cheated on my math project when I was in high school. Teacher called me out.

[Ian Rapoport]

Did you really?

[Boston Conner]

Oh, yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

You cheated on.

[Boston Conner]

Copied the whole stop. No, you did not. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Did you get caught?

[Boston Conner]

Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

What?

[Boston Conner]

I got caught, Mr. Pine.

[Ian Rapoport]

How'd you get caught? How'd you get caught?

[Boston Conner]

It was bar for bar, my friend. It was the exact same thing as someone else in my class. And Mr. Pine called me in and I said, I up. I the whole thing. I got a Z. A zero.

[Ian Rapoport]

You got a zero.

[Boston Conner]

I got a zero. Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

He didn't even give you the answers, right? That like you had on your own. It was all just, oh, every.

[Boston Conner]

I didn't do one thing. I basically changed the names on it. And then I submitted it. And then I, you know, I just. I. I just kind of ate that bullet.

[Gable Steveson]

And up.

[Ian Rapoport]

I up.

[Daniel Jeremiah]

Okay.

[Boston Conner]

That's what I said. Mr. Palm was like, I honestly respect. Because I did this with three other people that cheated. And none of they all denied it. And you're the only one that said I up.

[Ian Rapoport]

That is amazing.

[Gable Steveson]

That being said, you're going to get a zero in detention for a Monday.

[Boston Conner]

Got a zero. I already notified your parents. And you're going to have to ace the final to pass this class. I said, all right, Mr. Pine. That's business, baby.

[Ian Rapoport]

Notified the parents. God.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, that was tough. That's tough. You know, going home didn't get ice cream that night, tell you that much. But, I mean, that's the risk you take when you cheat. Don't cheat, kids.

[Darius Butler]

That's the lesson here.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't.

[Ty Schmidt]

Don't get caught.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, I would say that'd be the other.

[Boston Conner]

Well, that was the only time I got caught. You don't want to hear about my Latin class.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, certainly don't.

[Boston Conner]

Oh, wonderful lady. Taught that one. This is, you know, all stupid conversation, though.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, I would say that's probably.

[Boston Conner]

I apologize for calling you that.

[Ian Rapoport]

Thank you. No, I don't think we'll ever. I can't come back from that. I think we've done a great job of today, of carrying this through.

[Boston Conner]

You, too. Great work. Great work.

[Ian Rapoport]

I appreciate. It's always fun to hang out with you guys. It's the best part of my day.

[Boston Conner]

Yeah, it is a good time.

[Ian Rapoport]

All right, that's all we got.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[Gable Steveson]

What do we need to keep an. Keep an eye out for?

[Ian Rapoport]

Hold on, I'm listening. In my ear. All right, keep an eye out for. Glad you mentioned it. Pat McAfee is going to be on RAW, 4 o'clock on Netflix. I will be watching.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[Ian Rapoport]

Obviously, like I always do. I'm a huge wrestling fan, as you guys know. I think the Twin Towers are going to be on tonight.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure.

[Ian Rapoport]

Who? I don't know. That's my only wrestling record. That was a old wrestling tag team.

[Boston Conner]

Don't look at me. I'm pretty new to Hulk Hogan.

[Ian Rapoport]

I think is. No, Anyway, here's where you asked where we're watching for before we go. Real quick, where the heck is Aaron Rodgers gonna sign? Sure. Where does Russell Wilson go after that? Which direction?

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Ian Rapoport]

That's the big boss man. No, they were the mere con.

[Gable Steveson]

Oh, man. That kind of does look like him a bit.

[Ian Rapoport]

Z, the boss man's outfit was just.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Top notch.

[Ian Rapoport]

I cannot comment on that. Oh, my God. It actually.

[Pat McAfee]

I've never seen that guy.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, my God. Akeem. That's Hakeem. Right?

[Darius Butler]

See? Bode.

[Ian Rapoport]

I mean, the ultimate in racial appropriation there or ethical appropriation. Anyway, what do the Titans do at one? These are my storylines for the next month. What do the Titans do at one? Do they decide to pick? If not, do the Giants come up? And then where the heck is everyone going to get drafted? Plenty to carry us through over the next month. Thank you guys for joining us. You guys rock. You make me feel at home and I love hanging out with you. Join us tomorrow when the actual host, Pat McAfee will hopefully be here assuming his JetBlue flight makes it on time. Thank you very much for joining us. Take care.

[Ty Schmidt]

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