PMS 2.0 1313 - John Calipari, Maryland Freshman Phenom Derik Queen, Dick Vitale, & Darius Butler

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show - Episode PMS 2.0 1313

Title: PMS 2.0 1313 - John Calipari, Maryland Freshman Phenom Derek Queen, Dick Vitale, & Darius Butler
Release Date: March 25, 2025
Host: Pat McAfee, ESPN
Guests: John Calipari (via Anthony Dijiulio), Derek Queen (Maryland), Dick Vitale

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1. Introduction to March Madness and Arkansas Razorbacks

Timestamp: [00:00] - [00:45]

Pat McAfee kicks off the episode by spotlighting the ongoing March Madness tournament, specifically highlighting the Arkansas Razorbacks' journey to the Sweet 16 under renowned coach John Calipari. He expresses excitement about Calipari’s consistent performance in leading teams deep into the tournament, mentioning Calipari's extensive experience, having participated in "24 of these 32 March Madness tournaments."

Notable Quote:

Pat McAfee [00:44]: "Calipari does. He's been in 24 of these 32 March Madness tournaments. And the guy's experience is obviously fantastic."

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2. Interview with John Calipari (Represented by Anthony Dijiulio)

Timestamp: [16:21] - [26:34]

In this segment, Anthony Dijiulio channels insights from John Calipari, discussing Arkansas's strategic approach in the tournament. Calipari emphasizes the team's defensive strength and adaptability, citing their recent victory against St. John's where Arkansas's defense was pivotal.

Notable Quote:

Anthony Dijiulio (John Calipari) [17:05]: "We're the underdog. We know it. But, Pat, you're just too young. When I was at UMass and Memphis, we were always the underdog, and you kind of like it. You want them to play free and loose."

Calipari also touches on team depth and the importance of maintaining focus despite being labeled as underdogs, preparing Arkansas to face formidable opponents like Texas Tech.

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3. Spotlight on Maryland's Freshman Phenom: Derek Queen

Timestamp: [12:45] - [55:03]

Derek Queen, Maryland's standout freshman, shares his memorable game-winning shot that propelled Maryland into the Sweet 16. Queen discusses his disciplined approach and the mentorship from Coach Kevin Willard, highlighting his growth both on and off the court despite his young age.

Notable Quote:

Derek Queen [12:45]: "I'm one of Big Ten freshman of the year. I will be joining us in about 43 minutes or so. Can't wait to chat with him. He's awesome."

Queen elaborates on handling pressure situations, exemplified by his decisive moment when his coach asked, "Who wants the ball?" to which he confidently responded, "Give me a motherfucking ball."

Notable Quote:

Derek Queen [07:00]: "I said, give me a motherfucking ball."

He also reflects on the evolving nature of college basketball recruiting, influenced by NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) and the transfer portal, noting how players like himself navigate these changes with professionalism.

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4. The Impact of NIL and Transfer Portal on College Basketball

Timestamp: [53:23] - [74:20]

The hosts engage in a deep discussion about the transformative effects of NIL deals and the transfer portal on team dynamics and player commitments in college basketball. They debate the balance between recruiting top talent and maintaining team cohesion, with insights from Darius Butler emphasizing the challenges coaches face in this new landscape.

Notable Quote:

Darius Butler [34:00]: "But nobody's recruiting high school kids or something along those lines, like the team building philosophy has changed."

The conversation highlights concerns about the potential loss of team chemistry and the "Wild West" nature of current college sports, where financial incentives may overshadow traditional team-building principles.

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5. Conversation with Dick Vitale on March Madness and College Sports Landscape

Timestamp: [75:15] - [89:15]

Basketball legend Dick Vitale joins the show to provide his seasoned perspective on the current state of March Madness. Vitale critiques the dominance of power conferences like the SEC, attributing their success to substantial financial investments influenced by NIL and transfer offers. He laments the decline of "Cinderella" stories in the tournament, where underdog teams typically make surprising deep runs.

Notable Quote:

Dick Vitale [76:26]: "The schools that are paying big time cash, it's all about that. And we got chaos going on. ... something's got to be done."

Vitale underscores the imbalance in competitive opportunities, pointing out that smaller programs struggle to retain their stars who often transfer to wealthier schools, thus reducing the chances for upsets and maintaining the prestige of traditional powerhouses.

Notable Quote:

Dick Vitale [76:26]: "You don't see any Cinderellas. You're not going to see many Cinderellas anymore because it's all the schools that can pay the big dollars."

He also touches on his personal mission with the V Foundation to support children battling cancer, sharing his inspirational journey overcoming significant health challenges.

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6. Closing Remarks and Future Teasers

Timestamp: [89:15] - [End]

Pat McAfee wraps up the episode by reflecting on the discussions, expressing gratitude towards guests like Calipari, Queen, and Vitale. He teases upcoming segments, including potential high-profile interviews with figures like LeBron James, and encourages listeners to stay engaged with the evolving sports landscape.

Notable Quote:

Pat McAfee [88:00]: "We just talked to Calipari. Congratulations on a great day. And I like the way he talked afterwards. He was chit chatting about, yeah, for my teammates. Basically, like all 32 teams were here to watch my teammates, which I'm very pumped about and thankful for."

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Conclusion

This episode of "The Pat McAfee Show" offers an in-depth look into the strategic mindsets of top college basketball coaches, the rise of standout freshmen like Derek Queen, and the broader implications of NIL and transfer policies on the sport. Dick Vitale's joining provides a veteran's critique of the current tournament dynamics, emphasizing the need for balance and fairness in college athletics. The hosts maintain their signature blend of insightful analysis and entertaining banter, making the episode a rich resource for sports enthusiasts eager to understand the complexities of modern college basketball.

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Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble above the Thunderdome on this. Are you serious? Tuesday, March 25, 2025. This program starts now. Sports are fantastic, and today we get a chance to talk about a lot of them. Now, obviously, March Madness is still taking place with the Sweet 16 tipping off on Thursday, we'll have coach Calipari of the Arkansas. You know, Woo psui fine folks over there in Arkansas. I've had a lot of Arkansas tell me nailed it.

[Boston Connor]

That's how it goes.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's it.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what they are.

[Boston Connor]

That's it.

[Pat McAfee]

Tell me that we are a disgrace to the Woo pig sueys. Whenever we do it on this particular program, I'd like to let you know we think we're crushing it. So the next time we get out to Arkansas, which will hopefully be sooner than later, obviously you've been out there for a couple boozing evenings and a golf event, and they have legendary alumni over there. If you think about, you know, Jerry Jones, Walmart, John Daly, you're talking about a lot of people that are in on sports over there. So next time we go out there, maybe we'll learn the whoopig suey thing a little bit better. But Western Pennsylvania, Pittsburgh paisan John Calipari will be joining us in about 14 minutes or so. Cannot wait to chat about their next round. You know, this is another team he's led to the sweet 16, and he's saying that this feels like his most fulfilling and most gratifying because of how they started. Remember.05 in the SEC to begin the season, 0% chance to make the tournament. Whenever they were talking about the beginning of this Arkansas Razorback squad and inst. What do they do? Ah, they make it to the sweet 16 because that's what Calipari does. He's been in 24 of these 32 March Madness tournaments. And the guy's experience is obviously fantastic. And his team on defensive side, always going to strap it down. And they certainly did against a St. John's team that wasn't able to shoot. No, that's what everybody. That's what everybody said. And then obviously Kansas, with the incredible history that they have and the amount of success itself has had, it's been a hall of fame coach row thus far for Cal. Why does he think his team is still rolling? We'll chat with him about that. And then at 12:45 Eastern, we'll have Derek Queen of Maryland, who is from Baltimore. Don't know if you knew that and you know, there was an opportunity to potentially Have a game winner down 13 seconds, 3.6 seconds left in a game. Coach Kevin Willard of the Maryland Terrapin says to his team, who wants to ball? That guy says, give me a motherfucking ball. And then some people said he traveled. I don't know, you know, could have had a nice little late dribble. He's 6 foot 10. So I think those steps are very, very long. Whatever the case, they did not call it. He puts it up and touches with the basketball gods. Big fundamental. Tim Duncan watched that thing and said, great work, young lad. He is a freshman, the Big Ten freshman of the year. He will be joining us in about 43 minutes or so. Can't wait to chat with him. He's awesome. Not only in the give me the, you know, ball moment. Not only doing this and this had to feel so good after he scores it and his entire team is jumping around him, but his press conferences. Just talking like he's a professional. And we did a little research on this guy. He played for a team in Florida last year.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's called the Mount Verde Academy. With Cooper Flag and Liam McWhite Guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, exactly him. Liam McWhite Guy and Cooper Flag were part of the starting five. That would have been an awesome show to watch. I would have loved to be able to see them play high school hoops. I assume they beat everybody by at least 50 points per game. But I wonder, you know, these guys have just been treated in acting like they move like Cooper Flack moves from Maine to Florida to go. He moves from Maryland down to Florida to go. It's like these guys have been living like professional athletes for the last few years. I know basketball has been like this for a long time because they're like recruiting teenagers in the basketball world. Shoe companies have been doing it for a long time. Agents, obviously, get in there. But now with the way the nil is and the way college is, they're like professionals already. And this kid says braces, okay? That's how young he still has Brace. Cooper Flag, I think could be getting ready to go to prom because he reclassified like these dudes, seemingly at a younger age. Much more mature whenever it comes to handling yourself. Cannot wait to chat with Derrick Queen. And then the second hour, ladies and gentlemen, it's Dick Vital will be joining us. What? Baby, it is going to be absurd. We'll also potentially have some NFL guests in the second hour. We shall see what comes together. You are the greatest people on earth for allowing us to do this for a living. I was in Scotland last night, woke up here in Indiana this morning and I'll tell you what, it is a great day to chit chat about sports. So much going on. We have pro days, we have storylines developing, we have draft conversation, we have free agency chatter still. Who's going to be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers and the New York Giants. And J.J. mcCarthy was on up in Adams this morning with kay Adams on FanDuel TV and he said the Vikings have not told him he's the number one guy yet. So what is going on everywhere? We shall do our bullshit through it all the talks at tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, con man, New England Patriots. Mike Vrabel joined Don't me with Dan Dawkich today. We have not got a chance to hear much of that. But you guys in a great spot with way the mock drafts are going, sitting there at number four.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I feel fantastic. Especially when Elliott Wolf comes out. Basically the pseudo gm. I believe he is still the director of player personnel and says, hey, look, last year we kind of drafted on, you know, what do we need the most this year we're drafting based on best available. So you feel great hearing things. Feel great because Mike Vrabel is also leading the way. But also, who knows, can't win any games in April in the draft. But you know, maybe we can.

[Pat McAfee]

They're saying number one's locked up. Yeah. Let's go to nine. NFL vet Darius J. Butler.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yes, sir.

[Pat McAfee]

Daniel Jeremiah said that. I think Rapaport said that. Everybody who said that Cam Ward is going to be the number one overall pick. Congrats to Cam. Oh yeah, congrats. Minus 700 is a massive favorite. That seems like everybody kind of understands it. Then he has his pro day yesterday.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Shows out completely and I think he even says to the Tennessee Titans people like, hey, I'm gonna solidify this thing today. What did you see from that pro day yesterday and how much should we be judging from pro day?

[Darius J. Butler]

You know what? Pro day is not a big deal. I think DJ said it yesterday for this guy, for camborders, pretty much a proof of life. He just need to show up, hold that day's newspaper and show that he was alive. But he came out there and did. I heard him speak afterwards. He said pretty much a bunch of their Miami stuff. You know, running plays, game like reps. We knew who he is. Yeah. Three step, five step under center, moving from the pocket. Things we typically see from the pro days. We all remember the Zach Wilson when he flew up the boards. But this guy, he's been a dominant competitor everywhere. He's been watching his pro day again, it made me, it made me heartbroken. Again as a UM fan, how the hell didn't we at least get into the 12 team playoff? But I mean the record breaking season that he had at UM and what this offense did, uh, so yeah, Cam Ward, he did what a ton of people expect him to do. And yeah, he is pretty much locked down and he would be that number one pick.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, his collegiate career is obviously one that it should be chatted about a lot. Started incarnate Ward, then he goes to Washington State and then the NIL and the transfer portal allow him an opportunity to introduce himself to a bigger part of the world. Not that he did it in Washington State, obviously. We knew of him at Washington State and what they went through. And once again we'd like to reiterate the fact we had no idea at the time that Washington State was not going to end up in a conference. I apologize. That's naivety out of me. I didn't know that there was that type of ineptitude at certain leadership positions. Because what Washington State was building up there was awesome. Same with Oregon, there was a lot of great happening. So whenever the PAC12 disappears and with the transfer portal and the nil, him getting an opportunity to go to the U, flip their entire thing and then get prime time push, we all kind of get introduced to him. I think it was a great play. And that's one of the upsides, I think, of the transfer portal in the nil, especially for players.

[Darius J. Butler]

I think last year, correct me if I'm wrong, didn't he put his name, like you said, put his name in the draft and then came back? I think it was between UM and Florida State maybe. So you're talking about coming back and, and really betting on yourself and now becoming, we all assume, the number one pick in NFL draft. Like that's impressive.

[Pat McAfee]

You talk about Florida State and Miami. Florida State gets DJ Uyungalile out of Oregon State. Miami gets Cam Ward out of Washington State. And there's two different outcomes. Two different outcomes there. Not that it's DJ UI Ungulay's fault, but it did not work whenever he went to Florida State at all. It worked whenever Cam went down to Miami. This throw. When I first saw a Tweet, somebody said 82 yards, this dude standing on his own six, throws it to the other 10 or whatever the case is. Then I found out quick, there's no there's no 50 yard line. There's no 40s. Yeah, we had 10, 20, 10. Yeah, it's not. You know, some people watch that video, they're like, that guy started for the five, the other 10. Yeah. Holy. Which is definitely worthy of the combo. I think it's like 54 yards rolling across your body. Fade away. Which is still a dime.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Absolute diamond. He had a lot of time to get it there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hey, whoa, whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you saying?

[Boston Connor]

Plenty laying up there.

[Darius J. Butler]

What are you saying now?

[Pat McAfee]

We've talked about this off air here this morning.

[Darius J. Butler]

Uh huh.

[Pat McAfee]

Restrepo's people should have been doing everything they possibly could to either get a false narrative out there about an injury of some sort or just say, let them just watch the film. Just let him watch the film. Don't need the run. Even in the pro day there look good, Great catch. Have a couple sideline things. Allegedly this guy ran a 4, 8 and a 4, 7, 6 or something, 4.72 or something like that. And then that led to a tweet obviously from he and many others going, you know, it's not about how fast you run track. This is football. Come on. This is football. We looked it up. It is football. There's not a lot of wide receivers in the NFL that are running four eights that are going to get open. Now with that being said, this guy's the all time leading receiver in the history of the University of Miami. University of Miami has a lot of history. He's been rattling through the names of the wide receivers that have played in Miami. You think to yourself, wow, this is. This guy has the most yards out of any of them. Okay. And obviously he was a massive piece of this Miami team last year. He and Cam Ward were spectacular. And obviously whenever you're able to find holes in defenses, that is certainly something that is an upside for a wide receiver. Four, eight though, at a pro day. Because, you know, at the pro day they can even get the numbers out a little bit faster because there's scattered stopwatches.

[Darius J. Butler]

That's tough.

[Pat McAfee]

That's tough. I didn't like seeing that at all because I love watching him play football. And now I think to myself, like, yeah, somebody's going to get him in. Hopefully somebody brings him into a building, they will. And when he gets into the building, hopefully his football speed is still what we saw whenever he was at college. Because in the NFL, you know, the third corner, a lot of people are saying, put him in slot. Those guys are getting paid now like 25, 30 million, they're pretty good. And those guys, if you can get open and run good routes, so can they. You know, they can as well. And they're saying he's more quick than fast. How much should we look into a 4 8, 40, potentially 47 something 40 at a wide receiver position. And what are your thoughts about what he's going to be at the NFL and can he play at the NFL at that speed?

[Darius J. Butler]

I mean, thoughts number one on Restrepo, you know, being a South Florida kid, kind of like how Queen said, when you have that confidence when you leave South Florida as a football player, just like he does from Baltimore to dmv, hey, if I can make it here, I can make it anywhere, anywhere. Thrived at South Florida as a high schooler. Obviously thrived at um to break all those records. So we know without a doubt this kid can play football at a high, high level. Now it's a crapshoot when you go into the draft and all the evaluators, the decision makers, they take this into consideration. The measurable. So running the 48 and not being a big guy definitely doesn't help, you know, the process for him. So he definitely lost some money. I would say we always say, hey, people, earn some money golden. Going to the combine, run the four two people didn't expect that had great tape. He definitely made some money. So I would say he lost some money on the front end. But if he gets into a building, which I think he still will get drafted, I think he'll still have an opportunity and I think honestly, he'll still make plays. I really believe in guys that are productive on, on every level. If they get to the next level, they're going to continue to be productive. But it is important for him to get in the right system because the thing about the NFL, your windows, you get them, but they close really, really quickly, especially when you're not fast. So being able to get open and have a quarterback that can put the ball right on him, he can definitely be successful in the next level.

[Pat McAfee]

Good luck, brother. Pulling for you. We have. There's been some other, you know, slower 40 times documented during the draft cycle. Hunter Renfro. 459. Now, once again, it's not a 4 8. Larry Fitzgerald, 46 3. Once again, not a 4 8, but Larry Fitzgerald played like 14 years. And yeah, 6 4, monster man. Kenan Allen. 471. Now, this came after he tore his PCL, I believe, during the season. So they're saying he wasn't fully healthy whenever he ran his 4, 7, 1. And Jarvis Landry is the easiest comp everybody was making because he ran a 477 at the combine. I guess he got hurt during that. And then his pro day, he would follow up and run a 4, 5, 1. So it's like seeing a 4, 8 number is not normal. Like, that is not something that is normal. But also what Restrepo was able to do at Miami was not normal either. Maybe the football just kind of does. Does its thing for him, and I'm. I'm pulling for it.

[Darius J. Butler]

He's a football player, and I love the part of him that is the competitor. Hey, I'm gonna go out here and compete. I'm gonna go out here and run this time. Whatever it is, I'm going run it. I'm gonna go and do it. If I was his representative, if I was his big brother. Shit, if I was his little brother. Mom, dad, don't go out there and put a 4, 7, 48 on whack. Just don't do it. Let him assume, you know, sometimes you just don't want. Hey, tweak the hammy. Tweak the something. You know, something that we expect to recover in a couple weeks.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that needed to get out.

[Darius J. Butler]

Put the tape on. Put the damn tape on. Watch number seven play. We know he can play football.

[Pat McAfee]

Sorry, I can't. I can do routes with Cam. I don't think I'll be the explosion to get out there. I got a little bit of a tight, you know, this thing out here. This.

[Darius J. Butler]

It band.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

The.

[Pat McAfee]

It band a little bit.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Little bit.

[Pat McAfee]

Little bit. I don't know if I'm able to do that today. If I run, it's going to be slow. You know, it's going to be slow. I want to do that. Obviously, you guys don't want me to do that because the amount of plays he made up. But this comes into the full combine draft process. Now, slow 40s are talked about. Very fast 40s talked about. Yeah, very slow 40s talked about. If you just run, like in the window. Not a conversation. Just kind of keep it moving. Like somebody said who was. We don't even remember who. The guy said he was going to break the record at combine, right? No, because he ran an okay one. He ran like a four, four instead of a four, two something. But it's like he's in the window. He's good. There it is. Isaiah Bond, a Texas guy, golden, ends up running the fast one, too. They were saying they were gonna get four, two or whatever. They didn't, but they ran into window. So not a conversation anymore. If you don't hit the window, it's like conversation all of a sudden. Yeah. By people that don't matter. Like you don't matter. People on the Internet don't matter. If somebody thinks he can make plays, bring him into a building, one team, he's gonna have the opportunity to do that. We're pulling for it. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Another one that kind of popped up was Welker, and he ran a 465. And obviously Wes Walker, everyone, you know, he's one of the most successful slot guys ever. You could argue, but for Restrepo, you're talking about systems. Like, maybe this was planned. Maybe he said, you know what? Tennessee Titans, who am I? The best wide receiver with Cam Ward. So if I just run super slow, I'll go undrafted and then guess where I'm going. I'm going to Tennessee to pull my best friend, Cam Ward, my brother, who, you know, we won a lot of games with at U. Miami. You never know. Maybe that's the case. And, you know, if it is one of those situations, maybe Cam Ward also said to Borgonzi and the boys, like, hey, Restrepo is going to run like shit today. So you guys are going to be able to get him in this in the sixth, seventh round if you want.

[Pat McAfee]

There is a chance too, with the way we've seen that indoor field built, maybe their 40 is actually 41 and a half yard. You know, it might be a little bit longer because it's 10, 20, 30, 30, 20, 10. You know, maybe the individual yardage is a little bit longer as well. It's pivot away from pro days. Good luck, Xavier. Oh, yeah, you're great at Miami. We hope you continue to do your thing in the NFL. Same with Cam. Congrats on having a great day. And I like the way he talked afterwards. He was chit chatting about like, yeah, for my teammates. Basically, like all 32 teams were here to watch my teammates, which I'm very pumped about and thankful for. Like, and he was talking about going under center play action. He was like, there's a lot of shit that I didn't get a chance to showcase. I want to let people know that I do. And seems like he did. Love his mentality. Love everything about it. Good luck to him in Tennessee. Great coming to the AFC South. Let's go to college basketball, shall we? To a goat, ladies and gentlemen. He currently has 59 NCAA tournament tournament wins, most by an active coach.

[Ty Schmidt]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a lot of wins.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

There's coaches that don't have that many wins in the regular season. This is in tournament time. 24 of the 32 tournaments have seen this man's name and face all over it. Out of Moon Township, outside of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach for Arkansas, John Calipari. How we doing, Paison?

[Anthony Dijiulio]

I'm doing good. We're still playing now. We're 16 out of 16 deep 16, but we're still playing.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's talk about it. There hasn't been as many upsets this year. You know, there hasn't been, like, a Cinderella story. Your team is the one that's being talked about. And OB I think, as somebody who is a casual college ball fan, anytime a Calipari coach team is in a tournament, it's normally going to be, this team's going to win, this team's going to do well. Now you're like the underdog. Now you're like the Cinderella. Now you got people like, hey, it's Arkansas. Let's go, Arkansas for the good of it all. How have you been using that with your team? Have you acknowledged that? And how do the boys feel about where they are right now?

[Anthony Dijiulio]

We're the underdog. We know it. But, Pat, you're just too young. When I was at UMass and when I was at Memphis, we were always the underdog, and you kind of like it. You want them to play free and loose. But again, this tournament, you're right. There weren't a whole lot of upsets, and so people were all still alive. The good news, you were an athlete. You guys, you got to get in the ring. You got to step the ropes, and you got to get in. And we bes in the ring, and let's see what happens now. Texas Tech.

[Darius J. Butler]

Whoo.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Are they good? They talk about shooting threes, but they also can post the ball. They also play ISO basketball. They break it down on the dribble. I'm watching like, you know, what are you going to try to take away? Well, coach, team. I mean, they deserve all the accolades. They're getting really good players that make plays. So we know it's going to be a hard game for us, but I tell you, we'll show up, and let's see how we do.

[Pat McAfee]

That'll be on Thursday. Sweet 16 for Arkansas. Take it on Texas Tech. How long have you started watching film on them? Did you do it before? I don't remember if you told us you're looking ahead or not. Not.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

I When we got on the plane after we won that game against St. John's I said, we got a three hour trip, give me some tape. And I watched two halves and I said, don't, no, because I got to get in a different frame of mind. They didn't miss any shots. I'm like, what, that I don't want to watch any more of this because I have to get to where we got a chance.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

So, yeah, I did watch it on the way home. And I've watched some. I like to watch their last five games.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Because the last five gives you an indication of how they're playing. Now you go and try to do something in December, November, who gives sh. As you would say, who gives a shit? It doesn't matter, but.

[Dick Vitale]

And then.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

And the last thing. And I'm kind of. Am I breaking this with you, Pat?

[Pat McAfee]

Come on.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

A dutiero is available.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Darius J. Butler]

Come on.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

He is available. Now I played Boogie, who was available 15, 18 minutes, but he helped us win the game.

[Pat McAfee]

Huge. Huge.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

He made the steal, he made the plays, he made the assistance. Now I do. It's a different deal because we need his toughness in his athleticism the Most. He'll play 12, 12 minutes, maybe 15, maybe I doubt, but it'll be. But you got to prepare now because we're a different team. Finally we got a full roster.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I was about to say, you're getting deeper. You're getting deeper of a bench as you're getting deeper into the tournament. That has to be a good feeling, especially as other teams are going the other direction. Right, right.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Well, that and the fact that we had filed trouble against St. John's my big guy fouled and I told him, look, I'm leaving you in, don't foul. And he fouled. I said, what, what are you doing? He said, I did foul. You can't foul in those situations. Now. I can't play you in the whole half, but. And then the other guy fouls out. Big Z, who's playing better, thank God, because we need him. But now you got. You don't have to go to a four man zone, like two, three guys, like, okay, let's play a diamond zone. We only got four guys, so it's, it's still. Look, and everybody wondered, well, how will he affect the team? Boogie? And I said, Boogie came in to me and I told you last time we were on and came in and said, said, I don't want to hurt this team. You just tell me how you want me to play. Because we're playing good. And I said, listen, you're going to play off the ball instead on the ball, make plays. And I need you to defend and come up with steals. I don't know how much you'll play, but be ready. I'll have the same talk with a dude. A dude wanted to play. He's the only reason he's playing is he said, I'm playing. I want to. I want to help this team.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's talk about that. You talk about his toughness and quickness, and you said the same thing to.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Boogie whenever he was our leading scorer, leading rebounder.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's talk about it. Everybody's chatting about how Patino's team had no offense. You know, these guys have no offense. I feel like a Calipari team. Defense is the thing, right? I mean, that is kind of your animal. That is kind of what gets better throughout the season. How do you feel about your team's current state of defense? And do you think you have a chance to go on a real run here? You say you got to step into the ring and fight, but do you think you have the pillars to have a championship team?

[Anthony Dijiulio]

All the 16 coaches know we're all two. And, oh, no matter what you did all season, we're now 2, 0. You have a chance. We're going to have to defend like crazy. Let me tell you what else I saw on the tape when I watched Texas Tech. Their offensive rebounds are not to stick it back in the basket. They offensive rebound to kick it out and get a 3. Their transition offense to get threes. Really as good as I've seen. This will be a hard game, but I like my team. I like my players. I even let them drench me after the game, which I look. Oh, yeah, I look at him. Don't you do your. And after this game, I said, bring it on, boys. Bring it on.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Look as rewarding. I've been doing this a long time and this. And we've had some ridiculous 38 straight one year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Won a national title. This has been as rewarding as any season I've coached. I can remember busting through at UMass and busting through at Memphis and what we did in a. In a stretch at Kentucky, but we were dead to rights. We were thrown in the coffin. They pushed the top down, but they didn't nail them. They just, they. They said, ah, he can't get out. Don't even worry about the nails. And I'm not talking just me. I'M talking our team. It counted our team out. And so I came in with a shirt because I didn't want to get my suit wet.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

I told him, go ahead.

[Pat McAfee]

Very paisan of you saying, hey, listen, don't touch the suit. Okay? We got a good sport coat on here. We got a good button down. Don't you touch it. But the shirt, you do your thing. And I heard you say, this is the most rewarding. And last time we talked to you, you chatted about the 05 start and, you know, how you felt like everybody was kind of like, hold on. Even yourself. And with how it ended, you know, the last stop, obviously we don't have to bring up that, but you had great times. Great times. And then on the way out, I think everybody was kind of ready for a fresh start. You go out there, starts terribly. Now you get a chance to get back to the sweet 16. I just did some. I got some stats here. This will be your 16th Sweet 16 game. Do you know what his record is in the first 15 Sweet 16 games that he's been in?

[Ty Schmidt]

What's that?

[Pat McAfee]

12, 3. 2 and 1 at UMass. 3 and 1 at Memphis, 71 at Kentucky. Feels like you do a okay in the sweet 16. Excited to watch you do it with this one. But you talk about it being rewarded, starting personally as well. I assume because you talked about the coffee with the team. But at the end of Kentucky, there you were, this guy.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

I just. Look, I. It was great for me and great for Kentucky. They're doing great. You know, we put 16, 15. This is my 16th year in the SEC. 15 years. My heart and soul. You see, my daughter, my wife, they're into this just like I am. And we gave everything we had, but it was time. It was time. Now someone could go in and match what we did over that period of time. I wish them well. I'm in another situation, and I'm at peace. I'm at peace with what went on. I'm not being revengeful. I went into Kentucky. We won that game. I was humble about it. I'm not, like, trying to beat them because they did this. None of that. I'm about these kids. And my job right now is to stay locked in. I'm not listening, reading. I don't care. He's the worst. He can't.

[Pat McAfee]

He.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Okay, I agree with you. Can we get on to something more important, which is I got to coach these kids.

[Pat McAfee]

That's awesome.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

And. And you know what? What they've done, I owe that to him. Them what they've done this year, they could have let go and given up the rope and given up on me. They didn't give up on each other or the staff. And my staff was unbelievable through this because they could have scattered and they didn't. They just kept working and now we're there. But Texas Tech is real.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they are. They are. They absolutely are. I. We concur completely. Sweet 16. Everybody's going to be great. Especially this year you were being talked about as the underdog team because you knock out number two, two ranked St. John's on that note, Connor has a question for you.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, coach. How was the interaction with Pitino after the game was like a Michael Jordan, Larry Bird situation or was it more so like a very jovial good to see, you know, good luck the rest.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Of the way type before the game or after?

[Ty Schmidt]

After, after or both.

[Pat McAfee]

Unless.

[Ty Schmidt]

Unless you guys talked a little. Chip.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Look after the game he said good luck in the rest of the tournament. I wish you well. And that there was. Look, I knew it's heartbreaking when you lose at this time of the year so I, I thought it was a gracious, you know and I was trying to say look, if they made a couple shots, they beat us. So it wasn't like we just bowled them over. But you know, he had an unbelievable year with his team and it's heartbreaking. So he was good after.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. How about beforehand? Hold on. I saw some shit. I don't know enough about it because I'm college basketball. You two obviously in Kentucky. There's a lot in that conversation and rivalry but obviously incredibly Italian. I saw like sit downs of you guys together. What like 20 years ago?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, 96.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. 30 years ago. And then obviously deep relationship because you guys have been in the same. How is the relationship with you and Patino and other legends amongst the sport. Yeah, there it is. Look at well young pyre you.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

This thing is so competitive. It's not like old school. When I was with Ted Owens at Kansas and Larry Brown they would have dinner the night before with the opposing coach. They would have breakfast with the guy. We're ours are. Peace brother. See ya. And it's just different.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

There's so much more. I don't know. I don't want to say what's more at stake but you know, and then Rick was at Louisville, I was at Kentucky.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

We weren't going to be friends with. It was like that game was like life and death in the state and I tried to play it down but it was life and death in the state. And so I've always respected him. I've watched his. What he does and how he does it. And, you know, everywhere he's been, you know, even the last, where he was in Greece and then he was in Iona, he gets it going. He's at St. John's he gets it going. So, you know, you. You have to respect it, especially the number of years he's been doing it.

[Pat McAfee]

I wonder if there's.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

He said he liked my coat, by the way. There are other guys that were hitting me. They didn't like my coat. I don't give a shit if you like my coat or not.

[Pat McAfee]

But he's nice to hear from Patina, though. You know, he's. He has a little extra. Extra salt, you know, you pyzons. He has a little extra sauce with how he dresses as well. Yeah, I mean, that's a. That's a good person to get a compliment from. And hopefully one day, I mean, who knows if either of you are ever going to retire from this. You guys are able to have a little Sunday gravy, you know, a little gabagool, a little bajou together, you know, able to kind of look back on the times the two Italians doing great things for the obvious sport of college basketball debut. Has a question for you about now.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, kind of on that note. I think Coach Patino talked about not even recruiting high school kids or something along those lines, like the team building philosophy. Obviously, you've been doing it for a long, long time. I remember some of your great teams, a lot of the one and done guys. But how much has your philosophy changed when it comes to team building? When you have to pretty much put this whole roster together and then go on this run, and when do you kind of feel like you guys become that unit?

[Anthony Dijiulio]

So that's a great question. Here's what I would tell you. You're going to have to look up the year. It was either 15 or 16. We were in the national championship game. You know how many freshmen I started that year?

[Pat McAfee]

Hold on. Is this when you missed all those free throws?

[Anthony Dijiulio]

No, that was. That was when we were. That was Memphis. I'm talking Kentucky. I started five freshmen. That's not going to happen again because too many players are staying too long. So now I am still recruiting the best freshmen in the country. It's in my DNA to help them and their families and put it together. But I got to get some returners and I got to get a couple transfers to go. We Signed a couple. Now we're looking to sign one more. And they will be a big. They'll be the big part of what we do. Yeah, we'll have hopefully three, four come back and we'll have a couple transfers, couple big kids. Anybody that wants to get better, wants to be trained, wants to be a part of something special, wants to be made to be uncomfortable so you can learn to be comfortable, be in the best shape of your life and be on a team with other really good players which you want to go somewhere. To be the only player that's like going in a gym and you're by far the best player in the gym. You're in the wrong gym.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Don't go to LA Fitness in the gym. Yeah, I got dunked on twice.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So agreed. Okay, so on that note, talk about recruiting and everything, we. We're having Derek Queen join us here in like 15 minutes.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Good.

[Dick Vitale]

Unbelievable.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

So he's always been good.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

He can pass. Yeah, he's like that. Guard skills.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's talk about that. We saw his high school team down in Mont Ver and I don't know enough about high school basketball is what I'm learning. Him, McWhite guy from Yukon and Cooper flag. We're all in the same high school academy team. Is that how it works? These academies are kind of recruiting some.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

But it's starting to move out because, you know why Nil in high school?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

So you're not getting six guys at one school right now. So now if your high school prep school is not able to help them with Nil, you're probably not going to get as many kids. So I think that will kind of the same that like I said with us and I used to recruit six, seven, eight freshmen. Can't do it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Most you can get now or three to four.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, hopefully, you know, college basketball only continues to get better and better because of all this. The NFL I think is getting, or I'm sorry, college football I think is getting better because. Because of transfer portal in nil. Do you think same thing for college hoops or not? Because you didn't even have a team.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Last thing I said I was really disappointed in and it's happened. There are kids in the United States that are freshmen that deserve scholarships to college that are not their 7, 800 will not get scholarships and they're good enough. But we're all waiting for transfers. So now that is what disappoints me the most. And part of the reason I won't change. I just can't do as many. You know, there are kids. I had a friend of mine call. My son's a Division 1 player. He doesn't even have an offer because everybody's waiting for this transfer. How many of my guys are coming back? How many transfers can I get? I may only have one or two scholarships for a freshman.

[Pat McAfee]

That's happening in football, too. Do you think there has to be something with the calendar? Because, like, the. The football calendar people are talking about how there was a transfer window in the middle of the playoff. Okay. Which obviously caused the scene, which I think you guys are dealing with currently right now. And then there's a spring transfer window that is in the middle of some people's spring ball for football. And it's like. It is. There's a lot, like, with that entirety of like, scholarship transfer windows when people are leaving, when coaches find out who they have. Sounds like in basketball, it's pretty problematic as well. Well, with the way the calendar is set up.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

It is. And here's the other thing. There are a lot of kids that are going to put their name in the portal thinking, I'm going to make money on it, and they got nothing. They're not getting a scholarship. You. There are none left. And there are many of us that if you put your name in the portal, I probably say, you got to go now if you're going to do it. I'll see you and we'll. Because you pour in so much to these young people if they're not coming back with the. Loving each other, what is this? One way. And so you probably say to me, I'd be hurt. It hurt my heart. You're putting your name in a portal instead of coming and. Yeah, but I just want to see and maybe I'll come back. Well, no, no, it's not how that works. And so, you know, we got, again, great kids that were raised right, you know, their family. Look, Dwan Wagner, that's DJ's dad, played for me. Carter Knox, his brother played for me. Billy Richmond, his dad played for me. Even Aiden's father played for me. So. So, you know, like I said, these are good people that wanted their kid here. And it was hard. And I am hard. I'm Italian, I'm loud. I'm not going to sit.

[Dick Vitale]

Hi.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

You're okay. Just, you know, I mean, I'm. I get aggressive. Can't help myself.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You're from Western Pennsylvania and you're Italian. We understand completely. We understand completely how it Goes and obviously you've been able to bring out the best in a lot of people. And the fact that family members are saying you should, I think that is the biggest compliment that any of your ex players could show for you. But I'll tell you what that does say. You're an old ass brother. You're an old ass man. But that olive oil making you look young. Speaking of. Anthony Dijiulio has a question for you.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah, coach, Speaking of being old, I'm getting old. So I go to bed Most nights before 10:09 Eastern when your game's going to tip off. Thursday. Now obviously players are kids. Do you guys have to do anything different for a late tip on Thursday day?

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Well, it's not late. We're in San Francisco. So for us it's. Anybody watching on the east coast you got, you're gonna have to stay up. But for us it's fine. The game, that's a hard one.

[Pat McAfee]

Noon.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Oh, hard game. Noon. You know, because at that time whoever shows up's probably winning the game. And even in this they'll be excited. But eight minutes in there's someone will let go of the road. So noon is a tough one. I don't care how late. Now I'll be honest because. Pat. What'd you say I was? Old?

[Pat McAfee]

No, no. Italian. Handsome, successful old. Yeah, there's a lot of things. A lot of things.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

So I don't like coaching at 10pm I'm normally in bed by 9:30.

[Pat McAfee]

All of us? Yeah, all of us. Hey, but this is madness. You know it better than anybod everybody. On that note, Ty has a question for you.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, Coach. I know how every round is basically its own tournament in and of itself. But when you get to the second weekend like this and you have two great wins against Kansas and St. John's is there any kind of residual momentum that you guys are still playing with even though it several days of passing your kind on to the next phase of the tournament.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Anything in the past doesn't matter. My record does not matter. The other guy can be 2 and all in his history and go in and win by 30. It does not matter. Now what I've said is we're in a tournament with Florida, Maryland, Texas Tech and us. That's all we're looking at. We're in that tournament now. All we're worried about is Texas Tech. We know how good they are, how well they're coached, how they shoot, how they drive, how they poach most. I mean I'm looking at them Like, I literally put it down. I'm not. And they weren't highlights. It was the game I was watching. So, yeah, you gotta stay focused now in our practices. I just want them spirited so that they're in that friend. Not one guy better act like, I'm tired or I'm cool. Today I'm gonna end up so cool. You get slapped. It's like you walk in the ring, you think you're cool. Be cool when you get punched in the forehead. How about that punch?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Now you're not cool anymore. You better protect yourself and be spirited about what you're doing.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't want anybody being cool out here. I don't need it, Okay? I don't need it. You see the same Texas Tech team that I watch, I try to watch it on the flight home after we beat St. John's are too good. I said turn this off. I'm in a good movie right now. I don't need to begin a bad new coach. We can't thank you enough for joining us, man. Good luck on Thursday. Thank you for taking time. And we can't wait to see your boys. And congrats on a dude coming back. I guess it's first game since February 22nd is what Rothstein just reported. So let's go.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Thanks, guys.

[Pat McAfee]

No problem.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Appreciate you.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, good luck to the boys. Tell them to be spirited. You playing music? He's gone. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

I thought it was Negative Exit.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought so, too. I didn't know when he was so locked in on, he was trying to find the exit. Yeah, the mouse.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't. Get the hell out of here.

[Ty Schmidt]

Where do I go? Leave.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey. All right. Those are the best. I'll be on a Zoom and I button. Won't pop up for whatever reason. It's like, oh, no. Now the awkward. Sit here with whoever else is having the same problem that I'm having. Let me race out of here as.

[Ty Schmidt]

Quick as trying to hang up a call, and you just can't hit that.

[Pat McAfee]

And then, damn it, then you can stay on too. You know that every once in a while, Zoom will stay on on your phone when you leave the thing. And then it's like, oh, wait, I'm still on this thing. Holy. What? Just. You know why I need to get out of here.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Huh?

[Pat McAfee]

What's that?

[Ty Schmidt]

We know who made Zoom.

[Pat McAfee]

Sports Pope.

[Ty Schmidt]

No.

[Evan Fox]

Ccp.

[Ty Schmidt]

There's chances of ccp.

[Pat McAfee]

You remember Sports Pope?

[Boston Connor]

Oh, yeah. He pretty much did invent it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he said on our show.

[Boston Connor]

He did. Zoom's gonna Be huge.

[Pat McAfee]

This was before. This was before, you know, Covid. Really a lot of interesting stuff coming out about COVID the. Yeah, before COVID Mike Francesa. Yep. The sports pope. The goat of sports. Him and Russo, I guess, created, like, yelling at each other for sports and very passionate. And I'm not from New York, so I didn't. I didn't know them until I watched the documentary, and I was like, holy, these guys are awesome. And sports pup, they used to stay on for. For like six hours just taking calls. You're an idiot. Hang up. Just for six hours straight. You're talking about absolute beast. So we had him on the program and asked a few questions, and I don't know who. Did somebody know. It might have been Ty. Like, yeah, I know you're an investor or whatever. Like anything you're looking at. And he goes, couple things. And he says, zoom. And what else? I. I forget.

[Boston Connor]

I can't remember. I think the other one may have not fared as well. Yeah, but he did. He was ahead of the zoom. The zoom's gonna be huge. It's gonna be big. So take it for what it's worth.

[Pat McAfee]

And then co happens and everybody boom. Zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom, zoom.

[Darius J. Butler]

I'd be careful with these phones, though, man. Add people in group chats, group call.

[Pat McAfee]

What is it that can't.

[Darius J. Butler]

On accident.

[Pat McAfee]

That was a big. I wonder if that was one of those group texts that you have to click and then go into, like, a note section, you know? Yeah, sure.

[Ty Schmidt]

Ipod link.

[Pat McAfee]

I. Some reason, reading that first, like, 10 lines and then has like a little arrow. Do you want to continue?

[Darius J. Butler]

It's got to be a joke.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I do. The hell is going on?

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, the name.

[Pat McAfee]

That was a wild piece of information.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

You can understand how the names could get mixed up. You assume that, you know, the. You know, one of the names was some sort of guard and then the other was exactly like that. That's exactly why at wild times, I'm.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm flying back from Scotland and what a time over there. Shout out to glass. Nice day, active city. The sun was shining. Every. Every local person. I said, I'm like, wow, what a beautiful day. Don't get used to it. You know, they gave me a full on. There's never. I. I legitimately was the. I walked around for four hours. A lot of people walking around. I was the only person with sunglasses on. Okay. Because I don't think they sell them. They probably don't own them. And the only. There was people that had transition lenses. Transition lenses. So I saw a couple of those. But it was. I was like 15, 20 minutes into the walk and. And I'm like, oh, nobody has sunglasses. Like literally nobody has sunglasses on. And it was like perfect sun. And, you know, maybe some vitamins had carried over, you know, from the. The flight.

[Ty Schmidt]

It makes sense or whatever.

[Pat McAfee]

And I was like, nobody's wearing sunglasses. This is very. This is very interesting. So I literally had like a 45 minute deep thought while I was walking around about, could I find sunglasses right now if I had to? I don't think it's even a thing because it's very abnormal, I guess, for it to be such a perfect day. But it was. Was city active, clean. People were very kind. They speak the same language as us. But I'll tell you, tough to. I couldn't understand. They get rolling there and it's a. That's what it sounds like. And I'm like, where we speak in the same language. I think we are. And then every once in a while you hear something and a big laugh out of the group. And I felt like really left out of a couple different things. But I, I would, I'd recommend Glasgow. Quick flight, you know, quick in only four hour time zone difference. Which is good. As opposed to like a 6 or a 7 or. That can happen. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Similar to Ireland. As far as travel goes, it feels like, where did you get the kilt? Because the fit was.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you're talking about McGregor and McDuff, the kings of kilt makers. Yeah, that was a big deal.

[Darius J. Butler]

Clean look.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, thank you. I felt pretty solid about it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Might be the best one.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Had to wear the air forces, you know, but McGregor and McDuff was the place. And I, I did not know. I mean, I guess we should expect this in school. Scotland. But like this was a really happening spot. There was like 10 people that work there. They were acting as if they were like bartenders, but they were kilt tenders. And people were coming in and out just trying to rent everything. Like they try to rent them for big events and everything, you know. And yeah, they gave me all my measurements. They sent it to a warehouse. I rented it for an evening. That thing there is called a spawn. I don't want to get it wrong, but this thing is part of like your family.

[Ty Schmidt]

Scottish belt buckle sock, was that?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh yeah, it's a knife. Yeah. Gave me.

[Evan Fox]

That's a knife.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I had a knife in my right sock there. Just in case somebody comes. Okay, somebody comes. I'm going to the. To the calf, to the knife, to the throat.

[Evan Fox]

You should shake bomb to the top.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom, bang, boom. Now, granted, there's a chance that thing slices my calf, so I thought there was a little bit, maybe an interesting design flaw in it all. But they said I just got to be an athlete, basically, and I get that thing and then, boom. Could kill somebody. So, yeah, I was ready to go. War. The Air Forces were ready.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah. Clean.

[Pat McAfee]

They were. They were. They were ready to go. You know, I. I probably first time those.

[Evan Fox]

Good tie, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I couldn't tie it. Michael Cole had to tie it, obviously.

[Evan Fox]

But I'm sure he's great at that.

[Pat McAfee]

It was very professional evening. I felt good over there. And Scottish people were very welcoming joining us now. Speaking of welcoming, we'd like to welcome this absolute dog onto the program. Just learned of him. That's on me. Should have learned about him a long time. Time. He's from Baltimore. We know that because he was asked why he's so confident in big moments. He said, I'm from Baltimore, which shout out to Baltimore being a city where somebody can say that. We all understand. Yeah, absolutely. He is from Baltimore. Obviously had the game winner for Maryland the other evening. After being asked by his coach, who wants the ball, he said, and we quote, give me the ball. Ladies and gentlemen, Derrick Queen. How you doing? How are you doing, brother?

[Derrick Queen]

I'm doing good. How about you?

[Pat McAfee]

Good. Let's go back to that huddle. That moment. Did I just describe it exactly how it went? Is that. Has this been overblown or is that actually how this goes? And how often has Coach Willard said, who wants the ball? Who needs the ball?

[Derrick Queen]

He don't ask that often, but you said it right, word for word.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, okay. Because we didn't know. Because he said in the quote it was mf. We didn't know if you added the in at the end. You know, we didn't know if it was just, motherfuck ball. And then that sounds a little bit different. Different. Sounds like you're a little bit nervous. But instead, we obviously flowed with, let's talk about this Maryland team. Obviously, your Big Ten freshman of the year. Willard's been there for a few years now, has made the tournament two out of three years. Whenever you get recruited to come back to Maryland and everything takes place. Is this the vision? Is this what Terrapins are possible? And how. When did you know this team had a shot to make a run in the tournament?

[Derrick Queen]

So this was my vision of doing, like, what I dreamed of. And I Figured when we had a shot, probably first game of the season or second game of the season where we really like came together, gel like we all came here to win, do something. I mean it's kind of like a whole new team from last year when they didn't make the tournament. And coach Willard just like got us like an oil machine, like put us together and got us working well together.

[Pat McAfee]

You're a Baltimore kid coming back to Maryland, obviously having this massive moment. How has it been, been going back home? Because we know you went to high school down in Florida. You and Mick white guy from UConn and Cooper Flag. We're all on the same team. I assume you guys won by 50 every single game. Going back to Maryland though, how has it been?

[Derrick Queen]

I mean, it's been great. Like a lot of family members, friends get to see me, camp has been great. Like, like they really love the basketball players. They show me a lot of love, try to like, like they always give me words for encouragement and they also tell them, like, they also tell me that I'm one of their favorites.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, yeah, you're 6 foot 10, you move like a point guard and you just hit a game winner fresh out of Baltimore. Let's talk about coach Willard a little bit there because you said he brings the best out of you. You did a press conference afterwards and I want to let you know the way you handled things was as if you're like a 50 year old man. Okay. I just want to let you know how mature you were. Here's a question about why, why do you guys respond so well to coach and then your answer. Willard's someone who basketball players listen to and what has he meant to you guys in the short time he's been with you?

[Derrick Queen]

First, he did pay us the money and then so we got, so we got listened to him and we all trust him because he's like a player coach and then, and then he want nothing but the best for us and he just, he coaches hard. He, he talked to us other than basketball, he's just always there and just want us to win.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so that answer, obviously, awesome. Just like every time you've been on a microphone, it seems like you give great quotes, but I think it's a great sense of where you guys are at nowadays. In college ball, you spoke basically like, hey, he's like the guy paying us, we are working for him. Is that the mindset that you've had? And do you think whenever you go to Florida for high school, does that kind of like prepare you to be, I don't want to say a professional, but a professional whenever it comes to all of this, including a lot of money, a lot of spotlight, a lot of possibility, a lot of potential distractions as well. Have you felt, like, more mature than maybe most people your age because of the experiences?

[Derrick Queen]

Yes, because I went to Melville for three years by myself and obviously with my team, but, like, I had to start washing my clothes by myself, had to start kind of cooking by myself. I had to do a lot of stuff by myself. So that just really opened, like, opened my mind up and like, and like, ready me and got me ready for college. And then coach Willard, like, like I said, like, he understands me because he know, like, he understands my personality and stuff. Like, that was a joke, but it's like also being for real. But coach Willard, he understands me because I like to joke around, I like to show my personality. And he, he's always there. Like, he always, like, laughed with me. He makes jokes too. Like, and I think I also bring out like, the, like, the happy or the funniness out of him too.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell yeah. Great relationship. Nice tag team for Maryland. Currently having a 610 point guard forward would be. That'd make me happy if I was coach, but also gotta coach your ass too, you know, you're still young. A lot of things that happen. DBut has a question for you, Derek.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, Derek, you talked about being in high high school and that stack roster, the whole squad. I want to know what those, what those ones were like after practice, what that competitiveness was like and how hard was it. I know you said this was a dream you had. How hard was it to. When it came to push, came to shove, to choose Maryland over all the other top programs in the country.

[Derrick Queen]

So at practice every day, like, it was competitive. A lot of drills, like, even in sprints, like, everybody wanted to win sprints. And then like five on five, like, hit.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Derrick Queen]

Coach Boyle switched the teams up and it'd be like, like different players. It was. It was six. It was six seniors. So he had tried to split three and three or sometimes four and two and put us with the younger guys. But we always competed every day because we always wanted to, to win, of course, bragging rights, mess with each other in the locker room and then come. Come back to Maryland. I came on an unofficial visit a day after my birthday, and then I think they played Coppin State, and I. And I was like, like, this is where I wanted to be. And then I. I waited until like February, I think 21st to commit, but I always knew, like, for two months that I was willing to come back to Maryland.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell yeah. Hometown kid coming back, doing his thing. Jimmy's. You ever have any Jimmy's famous seafood crab cakes or anything?

[Derrick Queen]

Yes, I actually have a. A meal with them.

[Pat McAfee]

You have a meal? Like a Derek Queen meal?

[Derrick Queen]

Yeah, it's a. It's like a To go. It's like a meal prep.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, genius.

[Pat McAfee]

Jamie's. These guys are pro. These guys are the greatest. So you're having crab cakes every day of your. This guy's life is on. I'll go back to Maryland for that as well. Ty has a question for you.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. Derek, obviously being, you know, Big Ten freshman of the year and first team, all Big Ten, like, you're. You're one of the dudes. But how important has it been leaning on the upperclassmen throughout the season? Just kind of to help them helping you kind of go throughout your first full season of college basketball?

[Derrick Queen]

So, like, at the beginning of the season and even the beginning of Big Ten play, like, I had my struggles, and then, like, it wasn't really me leaning to them because I'm still the youngest on the team, even though I got first team and Big Ten freshman, like, they just want me to succeed and they just want, like, obviously, like, they want what's best for the team. And they also always pushed me and. And they helped me grown and mature, too, by walking me through things, giving me the steps, talking me through college, and then just always been there and, like, being big brothers to me.

[Pat McAfee]

How come they said you traveled on that?

[Derrick Queen]

I don't know. Like, I just. I just don't, like, understand how they trap, like, how I travel. I just took regular two steps.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I agree. I. I mean, the ref saw the same thing we're seeing as well. Yeah. People will find anything complain about, right? Yeah, they don't know. They don't know. They don't know. They have no idea. And you know what? You got a problem. Why don't you go one on one with Derek? Bald side tone has a question for you.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah, Derek, the. The long sleeve look is awesome. I love it. It's very, very, very, very, very off. Very swaggy, in my opinion.

[Pat McAfee]

It is very swaggy.

[Evan Fox]

Have you always done that or when did you start doing it?

[Derrick Queen]

N. I started doing it this year again, but I. I always wore it, like, occasionally when I had, like, baggy, long sleeves. But when I was on a UA circuit and when I went to Mount Ver, like, they always had like compression tight and then I didn't really want to wear those. And then. And then Merlin, they gave me like. Like a baggy one. Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Ever since. Yeah, they gave you a 7x baggie. So you're 610. Is that accurate?

[Derrick Queen]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

How heavy?

[Derrick Queen]

Like 250, 245.

[Pat McAfee]

And you're 18 or 19. How old are you? You?

[Derrick Queen]

I'm 20.

[Pat McAfee]

20 years old. Wait a minute. How do. So Montverde, you were there for three years. You were there for three years and then you come to Maryland. So you're still 20 years old. We should. I should have done more research. That is 100% on me. But you're still going to get even. I mean, your b. Do you see your body still kind of transforming and shaping into what it's going to be?

[Derrick Queen]

Yes, because my strength coach, he always show me pictures and he called me. He be calling me Honey Buck and like Reese's Cup. So like I have to. I gotta go through that every day. And he just showed me pictures often.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, well, hey, don't be fat because you could be something amazing for sports. And your mentality, your humility, your personality and your ability are all things that are going to make us want to watch forever. So thank you for the time and good luck the rest of the way.

[Derrick Queen]

Thank you. Thanks for having me.

[Dick Vitale]

Me.

[Pat McAfee]

No problem. Okay, so standard two steps there. That was standard two steps regular two steps.

[Derrick Queen]

Standard.

[Darius J. Butler]

Ready for the NBA. NBA ready.

[Pat McAfee]

You can go. Show some love to. I'm from Baltimore. That's why if you go to MD Nil store, this is currently available. I assume there's going to be more quote T shirts coming out. Dare Queen. Your brain is an awesome one, brother. We can't wait to watch you. Ladies and gentlemen, Derek Queen. Thank you, man. Thank you. 20 years old. Jesus Christ. Should have got that one right. What's that all about?

[Boston Connor]

I mean, these pre schools now, you know, it's like you can graduate from high school and they. They still, you know, you do like a postgraduate year and It's. It's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

20 years. And also they're probably paying them in high school too. I mean, the amount of money you're probably making in. In the entirety. Go ahead.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, like what Cal was saying. But that's like the opposite of the reclassify. Like Cooper 5 goes down, down. Some guys go, you know, the opposite way. Go up and kind of do the entire.

[Pat McAfee]

That's old school. You know. Football, Football. Dads hold my kid back. He's gonna be a 20 year old.

[Ty Schmidt]

Senior, five years of high school is casual, man. A lot of people do it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

Up in the New England area, that's a common thing. Okay, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that's what I heard. My family's trying to get me in school as early as possible. Would have been cool to be the older guy. It was the younger guy.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was very cool. Especially in College. She turned 21 before everybody else.

[Pat McAfee]

12 years old, 6 foot 10, having this moment that he's having right now. I can't wait for him to be on the Pacers. He's gonna be a great Indiana Pacer.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't know about that.

[Darius J. Butler]

He had Hoosiers in his, I think, Final four basketball team.

[Pat McAfee]

Really?

[Darius J. Butler]

He throws Maryland, but I believe the Hoosiers.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. I'm pretty sure he doesn't want to come to Indiana anymore because a lot of people in Indiana were saying, hey, best thing that's ever happened was Derrick Queen out? Coming.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, that was.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's what I saw.

[Pat McAfee]

That was double D. Hey, you're gonna take lost shots out there. He's happy with the Vries, as he should be. McCollum's already drafted, recruiting for Iowa. West Virginia still don't have a head coach, but on the other side, we'll have Dick Vital. The second half of the basketball season.

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Boston Connor]

About his fantasy team digging a hole.

[Pat McAfee]

Digging an even larger hole next to that original hole. Unfortunately, TaxAct's filing software can't make taxes fun, but TaxAct can help you get them done. TaxAct, let's get them over with. Spores are happening all around us. We're lucky to talk about it today. Talks to the tables here at Boston, Connor, and at Ty Schmidt. Ty Schmidt, how you feeling?

[Boston Connor]

Feeling pretty darn good. You know, you mentioned it there before the break. You know, Ben McCollum's already just hitting the recruiting trail, hitting it hard, you know, getting guys to transfer into Iowa, which they need because everyone on the roster pretty much transferred after they lost Frank McCaffrey. So we. We got to get going right now.

[Pat McAfee]

This man needs to shave his head.

[Boston Connor]

I love it. I think he should let it recede even more and just leave like a little widow's peak there at the top.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe Hulk Hogan it.

[Boston Connor]

That's not a bad idea. He Hulk Hogan's it. We're in the final four next year, brother. Yeah, well said.

[Pat McAfee]

Now he has all the players from Drake transferring pretty much right to Iowa.

[Ty Schmidt]

Players, good players.

[Pat McAfee]

Just like devries is getting all the players that he knows transferring Indiana.

[Boston Connor]

That's kind of how it works now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. West Virginia doesn't even have a coach, so I'm sure Ren will figure it.

[Boston Connor]

He's figuring out. He's working on it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is he? Have you. Have you heard from him about. About it or.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I saw him. Good luck text. He said thank you. It was good. It was a good interaction. Now, do I think I could potentially help a little bit? You know, if we have some questions and some things may be. You know, I think. But it's all good. Ren will get to the bottom of it. He's a basketball guy.

[Boston Connor]

He was a basketball.

[Pat McAfee]

He's one of hired Devries. Yeah. Hey, everybody. Bell of the ball. Remember? Ren Baker found him and got him to West Virginia before anywhere else.

[Darius J. Butler]

He'll figure it out.

[Pat McAfee]

Not your NFL vet. Darius J. Butler here, your coach, who I'm a big fan of, is going to do a self reflection time, maybe even ayahuasca. He didn't say that, but the answer he was giving me was like, wait, is this a re or a reflect? A refresh and a reset for Dan Hurley. Because I hope we don't get anybody new. I hope we get Dan Hurley. I'm not even more next.

[Darius J. Butler]

I'm not buying it.

[Pat McAfee]

Rapaport. Wants it. You heard him. Yeah, they're.

[Ty Schmidt]

They're cheaters.

[Pat McAfee]

They're.

[Ty Schmidt]

They're doing an investigation in Yukon.

[Darius J. Butler]

We're investigating.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't know.

[Darius J. Butler]

Threatening lies ruin your life. I will. Way I ruined it.

[Ty Schmidt]

The whole RIP Tapestry.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't see this till later. I got a DM from the guy that had the video, and he said, there's a lot more to the story. And I was like, this sounds fake. I'm not looking into this. Also, I'm getting on a plane to Scotland. So I didn't even got to go. Just. Just kept it moving.

[Evan Fox]

Was there threat, Steve?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, allegedly. The follow up to the story, I guess, was that the Connecticut Sid said, oh, that's cute. Delete it now. Delete it. I'm gonna ruin your life. Yeah. Is that how it went?

[Darius J. Butler]

Whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

This mob land happening up there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Allegedly.

[Darius J. Butler]

But, you know, I respect. We stand up for our coaches, and I want that same coach to come back. The evolution has been from Daniel to Danny to Dan, and we would like to remain Dan. You know, I do appreciate.

[Pat McAfee]

I do appreciate Sid coming out going, you're gonna take that down now.

[Darius J. Butler]

So that was his picture on the left, right, Sid, I think, okay, maybe.

[Evan Fox]

We just call him Coach D now. Like, maybe he's gonna become cool.

[Pat McAfee]

To be clear, old buddy, I'm being told, fan of the program. So. No, there's. We just found that out. Obviously, there is reason why we're like, kind of a cool move. I think it's kind of awesome.

[Darius J. Butler]

Basically our Big Dom.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. But big Dom would had that thing eliminated. Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

There'S levels.

[Pat McAfee]

Levels to it all. I do appreciate his entire job is the brand in the image of the Yukon Huskies basketball team and having to work alongside Dan Hurley, who is not like the others. You know, he does not operate like anybody else and in the spotlight because they win. So he's having to put out a lot of fire. He's passionate. So what? Well, why'd he tell the ref he's the best coach in the league and he better turn around and look him in the eyes because he is. Okay, next question. He's handling things like he's a press secretary at the White House with Dan Hurley. And the way it all goes. So that video comes out, and me, he's like, we're back at it. You don.

[Boston Connor]

Now the way he responded to it was awesome too, though, you know, like, after that came out, he's like, yeah, you know, some reporters standing where he shouldn't be. There's no reason he should be there. And it should be about coach walking off with his seniors arm in arm. Instead, this guy's doing it. Now we're all talking about, you know, how. How pissed off coaches. It's not. Not right. It's not right. And I don't think it is right.

[Pat McAfee]

I do like these, like staying in a place definitely not supposed to be there. Trespassing. Okay. So anybody could just break into places they're not supposed to be, take their phone out and all of a sudden it's journalism. Okay. I don't think so. Next question moves on. I. I enjoy it. I like the journalist just said, hey, yeah.

[Evan Fox]

What was he doing standing there? He should stand.

[Pat McAfee]

Great access. He might have went to the bathroom. You never, you know, there's. I've been caught in a. Those situations before. I think we all have, actually. Whenever we're at a stadium or an arena and the nearest bathroom from wherever we are is up one of the bombs or up like a tunnel. And then you go and you come out and, oh, everybody's coming. I am not supposed to be here right now. So there might have been somebody that like stopped him too, as he was coming back from somewhere. Like, not now. Teams coming in. And then he just. It's pretty cool view. I didn't know I was going to be here. Gold. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Always pissed off.

[Pat McAfee]

Gold. Gold. Send it.

[Darius J. Butler]

Tunnel. Not sacred.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

No, not anymore.

[Ty Schmidt]

Nothing is.

[Pat McAfee]

Not anymore. There's not even locker rooms. Not even sacred anymore. I mean, that's real. It's ridiculous.

[Darius J. Butler]

We get. You get what, a 10, 15 minute cool down period before we supposed to be in front of cameras. As journalist, I mean, he needs to face the music.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. He's from Yukon. Obviously, that is how he feels. For me, for the journalist, great git.

[Darius J. Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

And for UConn. Love the response.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so now we move forward. I can't wait to see what Dan. I like Dan Hurley acting like that. Like I do because that's who he is. And obviously his team responds. I don't love the immediate reaction whenever somebody doesn't act. How everybody wants them to act at their position. It's just like, ooh, bad. We hate it. It's like, no, this is just how this could be as well. You've seen the same. This is how this could go at this position now, not saying everybody should be like that. Not everybody will be like that. But there are humans like that in sports and in competitive worlds. And it's just like with Sirianni. Like when Sirianni Was talking his shit, walking out of a stadium. Like, I'm like, okay, that is not normal for a head coach. But Sirianni obviously has the boys rallied around him, and his job is to get the boys to rally and play their best and lead them to a dub. So if these people are winning beginning, I don't think there is, like, any grounds to be like, that ain't right now, if they're losing and acting like that, it's like, clown show. Yeah, get him the hell out.

[Darius J. Butler]

And this is. Basketball coaches have always been, you know, the Jim Calhoun, Bobby Knight, like the. A lot of the great ones. Like, they're more so a part of the action. Even more than, like, football coach football, you know, they got a lot to handle. Heads to them. These guys are right the score. Sometimes on the court talking.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Darius J. Butler]

So Kim Markey and lsu, like, all these coaches, they have their different personalities, and they're part of the game, and that's how they get their teams going. And sometimes it boils over to, you know, right after the game when tensions and emotions are high.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, one half of the hammer done. Cowboys AP tone trends for March Madness thus far as we look ahead to the sweet 16 and as we look ahead to our conversation with Dick Vitel.

[Evan Fox]

So obviously, the money line for the underdog underdogs hasn't. Hasn't been great. You know, our. Our good friend Boston Connor bets on the money line for all the underdogs and that. What was it at 14 and whatever it was.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it was bad. It was 13 and 44 money lines for underdogs, including the playing game. So don't do that.

[Evan Fox]

But as far as. Like, as far as against the spread goes, 28 and 24 were the favorites against the spread. So, I mean, that.

[Pat McAfee]

That's.

[Evan Fox]

That's pretty average. About 500 for that. And then the under was 28 and 24 as well, against the number there. So. So as far as, like, the. The underdogs winning, not so much, but the underdogs, 28 and 24 were the favorites against the spread. And then 28 and 24 to the under as well.

[Pat McAfee]

The ball's too inflated. You hear about this.

[Darius J. Butler]

I did hear about it yesterday. I thought it was. That's real shit.

[Pat McAfee]

Like the players are saying. Yeah, this feels like this is an issue.

[Darius J. Butler]

It sucks when the ball is, like, dribbling, like, obviously, you know, bouncing out of room. That does suck. I didn't know that was a real thing, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they're saying it was a real Thing. Let's go to the NFL and talk about something that's very real. Real Tom Brady.com the 199 Newsletter Y of course, he's a. He's a writer now. He has seven total posts. Okay. Okay. The seventh one being the most notable publicly because he said there was a natural tension after 20 years together with Bill Belichick and the way the Patriots were looking to go and the way they were kind of going. So this kind of is just a little bit more of a stamp of. Yeah, they're. There was some stuff that was happening maybe behind the scenes. 20 years, two alphas, two of the goats working alongside of each other. That's a long relationship. You know, people live with their parents, you know, before they go to school or before they leave for 18 years. Think about the relationship with your parents. Think about how that could potentially go with your siblings for that long. Twenty years, becoming the greats, the greatest of all time next to each other. There could be some differing of opinion. There could be some differing of what the future looks like. Like, Bill Belichick has to look out for the Patriots. Tom Brady's got to look out for the Patriots. And also Tom Brady. And then obviously you got Kraft in there trying to navigate the waters. They. He said the last few years. So that would have been three years. They had success during that time together as well, which is also a wonderful part of this entire story.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah, big time. They won the Super bowl in 2018 with the 133 victory, which was an exhilarating game against the Rams and McVay's first Super Bowl. But I mean, I mean, when you think about just the team construction as well, like you talk about how sometimes, you know, the offense and the defense are damn near two separate teams at points. And you can think you with Mahomes and Andy Reid, like, hey, both offensive guys, obviously the credit goes to, you know, the offense a lot of the time, like with the New England dynasty, because it was so much Brady on one side with, you know, whoever was the OC and then Bill and the defense on the other. You can see where just even credit getting, you know, given to certain sides of the ball. Because early on it was Bill, Bill, Bill. Because Brady wasn't, you know, the guy like 99. You know, those first three Super Bowls, the dynasty, you think about like Brusky and Richard Seymour and Vrabel, obviously in those kind of teams was. Wasn't so much about Brady. Brady was kind of almost in the. The Purdy situation. Then towards the End it became much more Tom Brady. Bill can't do it without Tom. You know, Brady's the reason they're winning all those games. So the natural tension does make sense in the Jimmy G drafting a lot of people point to but the fact that they were still able to, you know, win and who knows when it started because 16 they won the Super bowl as well. 17 they went to the super bowl lost against you know the Eagles and the Nick Foles. Philly, Philly play and then you know the, the Rams super bowl they still won. So there might have been tension.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was tension. Three Super Streets, right? Super Bowls, we're going to win two of them in the entirety of it. Obviously you're in that building with both of them. As a second round pick for the New England Patriots, what is your thoughts on it? Natural tension, I think was Tom saying normal? Yes. Like yeah, there's going to be, that's going to exist, let alone being together for 20 years.

[Darius J. Butler]

I mean it's normal. Anytime something like this comes from, you know, the greatest player in the game, obviously going to be, be a big deal especially on you know, March 25th. But I can't think of any great player that stayed into a place anywhere near 20 years that didn't have some type of natural tension. And you talk about Bill, he wore both hats as far as the GM and the head coach. So.

[Pat McAfee]

And Tom always gave a team friendly deal.

[Darius J. Butler]

I mean, yeah, I mean literally any player that I could think Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan, LeBron, you know, Peyton Manning, Drew breed like any at some point in their career. There was some bumps. Aaron Rodgers been some bumps in the.

[Pat McAfee]

Road with other Wayne, Wayne got traded. Right.

[Darius J. Butler]

Wayne was like everybody if you stay like you said, you mentioned it, it's a marriage, it's a long term relationship. You're going to have some ups and downs, you're going to have some natural tension. So I don't think it's, it's a big deal. Kind of just mentioned like they were, they were winning. So if this was the opposite way and they were, they were losing, they were at the bottom of the barrel, it'd be a different ball game. But I don't think this is a, a big deal. But I can't wait for the next 199.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, eight, eight is coming around.

[Boston Connor]

Well in a lot of those instances with those other guys, like the, the player always wins out because like very, very, very seldom is it like a guy plays with the same coach for 20 years. Like how many coaches did Kobe Have. You know, even MJ went through, like, a couple different guys. Like, Brady is really, like, the only one where it's like it was him and Belichick pretty much the entire time. And I don't think that will ever happen again.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, different relationship whenever you're 22 versus whenever you're 35. Yeah, 36, 37. And I. I do appreciate. I think we all do. That he's come out and been like. Yeah. Because they both all been like, we love each other. Which you will, by the way. Once you. You kind of separate, you know, the heart grows fonder, if you will. And then you look back and it's like a lot of great things were accomplished, but in the moment, there was probably a lot of gripes from both of them about how things were going. And then obviously you get away. You say all the good stuff, but this is the first time where we've really heard them say, like, yeah, there was some shit. It's like we all expected it. We all knew that that was reality. And now we know from the 199 newsletter. He's a blogger now.

[Ty Schmidt]

I guess. So added to the resume. Love that you can do it all.

[Pat McAfee]

You see him?

[Boston Connor]

He might be doing it on a typewriter.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah, definitely.

[Pat McAfee]

Jammed.

[Boston Connor]

Ah, that was supposed to be.

[Evan Fox]

It's actually probably a better chance he's Nora. Linking it.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, straight from brain to paper. I mean, there is a chance. I had no idea this existed until this one. This is the seventh one. Writing takes a long time. I'm not even gonna get into it.

[Ty Schmidt]

What's that?

[Pat McAfee]

I told you guys a couple weeks ago, I learned about the.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Talks to text.

[Pat McAfee]

That's crazy. Really. Smartphone, Other things. It's getting dumber. Which needs to be talked about, you know, with Timmy, Apple. Like, something's going on here where my smartphone's getting dumber. Don't think that should be how this whole thing goes, but for that whole thing, I mean, that makes life a lot easier.

[Darius J. Butler]

You have the new UP update or.

[Pat McAfee]

I have the newest phone. I haven't done the whole song and dance.

[Darius J. Butler]

I gotta. I gotta turn off some settings. I'm tired of Apple Intelligence. Summarizing my.

[Pat McAfee]

My emails.

[Darius J. Butler]

Emails.

[Ty Schmidt]

The whole thing around.

[Evan Fox]

On the playground yet?

[Darius J. Butler]

What's that?

[Evan Fox]

The playground.

[Darius J. Butler]

I haven't. No.

[Evan Fox]

Get on the playground. Have some fun out there.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Ty Schmidt]

What the hell are you talking.

[Evan Fox]

There's a playground app. It's an AI picture app. It's fun. It's a good time.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, so they're grock.

[Pat McAfee]

So they have a Gro.

[Evan Fox]

I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't. What? Chat. GPT.

[Boston Connor]

I don't.

[Evan Fox]

I've never used.

[Pat McAfee]

Actually. Pretty talented.

[Evan Fox]

No, I tried.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, this iteration we're on, like, Grok 3.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's amazing.

[Pat McAfee]

And it always says Beta next to it. It is Grok 3.0 beta. That means they're testing Grok 3.0.

[Boston Connor]

Correct.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, they did that to Grok 2.0 the entire. So then we got to 3.0. We're still testing.

[Ty Schmidt]

Always getting better.

[Pat McAfee]

Are we ever going to not be in the beta stage of Grock or any of these?

[Boston Connor]

Grock may be just the beta stage in general. And then they might change it to, like, Brock or something?

[Pat McAfee]

Alpha.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, Alpha. Exactly. And then that's just the new AI.

[Evan Fox]

I just don't agree with Gro. Like, I'm a big green guy, but I. I hate Tesla.

[Ty Schmidt]

You sound pretty red right now.

[Evan Fox]

I'm a big AI guy, but I hate rock.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. All right. You love news, but.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah, I hate Twitter.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Is. Yeah. It's a wild thing.

[Ty Schmidt]

So what happens when you only listen to Oan, you know, last story.

[Pat McAfee]

The world right now is in a wild spot. Yeah. There are some people that, I mean, you're talking about just way. And have never heard the other side. I don't think that's why those people.

[Boston Connor]

Should just watch sports.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo.

[Ty Schmidt]

Come to our world.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Legit. Come to where we live.

[Boston Connor]

Watch the games on Thursday and Friday. Might change your life.

[Pat McAfee]

What do these people do that don't watch sports? I'm learning now. It's like, oh, they're just.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, this is it.

[Pat McAfee]

They're cementing themselves into more of. I'm a better person than you are.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And I appreciate their passion. Everybody saving the world. Seems like everybody is. Has the right idea for how the world needs to be and how it. And I respect it. And everybody. I'm talking. You know who I'm talking about. And it's like, I appreciate your passion, but, boy, don't get lost in there. Come on. Come on and watch some sports. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Dive into a conspiracy. Look. Look into the pyramid.

[Pat McAfee]

No, there's a lot of those. What we're saying is stay sports. Those things all kind of get into the entire. What is going on? Holy. Joining us now. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. When we talk about sports, we talk about, come enjoy sports. Come enjoy competitions. Come enjoy moments that are magical, that can only be created from a moment. Having to change the course of not only people, but entire Schools. A guy who is voiced over a lot of those moments of our childhood. And not only ours, potentially your parents childhood as well. 41 years he's been working at ESPN, baby. Ladies and gentlemen, the voice of basketball, college basketball. He's in pro and college basketball halls of fame. Dick Vital. How you doing, Dick?

[Dick Vitale]

Well, I'll tell you one thing, Pat. 45 years I've completed at ESPN. 45.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, okay.

[Dick Vitale]

I am honored. I finally got a call from Pat McAfee to be on his unbelievable show. Man, that's incredible.

[Pat McAfee]

Dicky, Dicky, Dicky. We would have had you on day one if we knew this was even possible. The fact that you have blessed us with your presence, especially during March Madness, we are grateful for. Especially with everything, everything you've been through over the last few years. You're inspirational, you're a badass. And we appreciate the hell out of your commitment to sport. For all of our entertainment for over the better half.

[Dick Vitale]

For five guys there, I'm talking to all you football, unbelievable fanatics. Football guys talking basketball, I think it hurts. You guys talking hoops, I think you'd rather talk football.

[Pat McAfee]

Now that is valid. Yes, that is certainly true. But there are times where basketball takes over the zeitgeist, and this is certainly one of them. We just talked to Cal, obviously. Arkansas is like the underdog Cinderella story this year. Calipari is the team that everybody's pulling for to go on a run with all the high ranking teams surviving. What is your takeaway on this year's March Madness? Dicky V. How should we be viewing this?

[Dick Vitale]

You know, Pat, it's Chalk City. I mean, there's no doubt about it. I mean, 13 of the teams there have been to the final four. You got eight of them that have already won national titles since All Ch City. And it's all. Do you know why? The nil, man. The schools that are paying big time cash, it's all about that. And we got chaos going on. I'll share this with you and your guys. They just opened up the transfer portal, which I think is a joke. I think it's absurd to have the transfer portal during the horror of March Madness. I think that's crazy. It's ludicrous. You ready for this? Only one day. About a thousand kids are in the portal. A thousand. It is total wacky. What's going on? Because the question is right away, the question is very simple. When the kids talk to some coach about transfer, what about my cash, man? How much am I getting? Did you ever think you'd see this Pat going on. It's a better free agency than the pros app because in this case you're free. At least in a pros. You got a contract. Yeah, I think they got to think about a contract. I think they think about Dickens deserve money. I have no problem with that. But the bottom line is this chaotic movement. No stability.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's happening in football too. Diggy V. Obviously we're seeing that they had a transfer portal in the middle of the playoffs. Transfer window in the middle of the playoffs as well. And there was actually players that were in the playoff. 12 team playoff. This is what you work for. There was team players in the playoff that were like, I'm leaving, I'm leaving. It's like, how is this what's right? I think they're going to figure that out, though. How much of the chatter has been done for college hoops, like college football, Obviously, we live in that all fall. We got a ruling coming this month or whatever on what the future is going to look like for Rev. Share. We did a lot of that with football Talk. How much of that's happening in college basketball, you think? And is there guardrails on the horizon for how it's all run?

[Dick Vitale]

Well, I just tell you this, Pat. I just think that there's so much chaos. The Wild west and into collegiate sports. It really is. And I just think that somewhere there's no rules and regulations. There's none. Zero. Do what you want. Do anything you want. And the big schools, I'll tell you what else is happening. You don't see any Cinderellas. You're not going to see many Cinderellas anymore because it's all the schools that can pay the big dollars. The SEC has seven teams. Seven teams in the Final Four. Why? Because the SEC has gotten with the times. The ACC hasn't gotten with the times. So they got one team doing Duke who gets. Gets it. Duke has the dollars. They have the unbelievable talent level. But I'm telling you, Pat, something's got to be done. Because you know, you hate to see the little guy rubbed out. The other problem with it, with the transfer portal, if you're a good player, I'm gonna make Pat McAfee dream. Dream. He's a jump shooter. Dream. He's an incredible player. And you're at some Mid American school. You're at my head. Handle that rock, man. Good left hand. I like that left hand. He dies. Oh, no. Look at the wall.

[Darius J. Butler]

Head up.

[Dick Vitale]

You're at a Mid American school.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Dick Vitale]

And all Of a sudden you play really well. You know what happens? You're gone. Just like little brick right there. But you're gone. You're absolutely gone to another school. So they're taking all the stars away that developed in the mid American schools from the actual mid major school schools.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So that's going to take away. You just got to hope that a team is able to build, you know, and everybody stay true. And hopefully the madness will remain in the March tournament because Calipari being the underdog Cinderella story is certainly something out there at Arkansas, but they're one of those SEC teams you talked about. Greg Sankey came on the show and was like, hey, we told the schools our men's basketball has to get better. So they did a concerted effort to invest in it. And to to your point, it has worked for them. Well, everybody else, we shall see. D Bud has a question for you. Dicky.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yes, sir. Dicky V. First of all, absolute honor. I'm a UConn Husky. You've called some of our biggest games from our national championship. So an honor. But you being on the air for so long and being iconic on the mic, I want to know, how did some of these, your most iconic sayings come about? Were they practiced in the mirror the night before? They just come out live, PTP or diaper Dandy? Like, when did these come about? How did they come about?

[Dick Vitale]

You know what?

[Pat McAfee]

Really?

[Dick Vitale]

I steal a lot of it, man. I steal from people. Little notes, letters, suggestions. I use them. I get credit. Not to be serious, it's just I, I always, when I started the tv, I make believe I'm talking to my buddies at home and I just talk to my heart. You guys do that. You talk from your heart. Why you connect so well with everybody? Because you're regular, you're downish, shooting a breeze. I've never looked at the red light light where the red light has intimidated me and I've always had fun doing it. The only that's intimidated me is having five major vocal cord cancer surgeries and all that stuff. Pat, I'd like to get a little, little help here. I'm trying to raise money for kids battling cancer, Pat. It means so much to me, especially after what I went through. I want you to notice the first live interview I've done in three years. Doctors have put me on unbelievable, unbelievable voice rest. Like I said, I had five major vocal cord surgeries. I'm just honored and thrilled and always moved to tears. But I'm even talking because about a year ago I went eight, like, I think it was eight weeks. I couldn't talk, not one word, write everything down. And so I made that recovery. But going through what I went through, I can't imagine a mom and dad with little kids going through what I'm 85 years old, man, I got the energy of a 20 year old, but I'm 85. And I'll tell you this patient that no child should ever go through. What I did in terms of the scans, the blood work, constant, always to the doctor's office, doing chemo, six months. I did radiation, 65 treatments. No child should do that. So my goal is to raise money through the V Foundation for kids battling cancer. So far, I'm so proud of this. Probably in my own career, I'm in, I don't know, multiple hall of fames and all that jazz. But my real part of me is so excited about to tell you this. We have raised my gala. $92.8 million.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's go.

[Dick Vitale]

And this year we're going to go over to 100 million mark because we honoring people like Mike Strayan, running people like Grant Hill and all these stars. And with Calipari. And we have a great event. There it is right there. We have a great event held down Sarasota, the Ritz Carlton. Anybody wants information, they call 941-350-0580. But the best thing they can do and donate. Donate that dick. All you gotta do is go to vital.com it's as simple as can be. Bigflytown.com you can donate. It goes to the Beef foundation and you might save someone you love. I get passionate about this because I'm in Pat. I spoke at several funerals for kids and it just tears my heart out.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Dick Vitale]

Tears my heart out.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And it's not just the kids, obviously. It's the entire family, the anxiety alongside all of the appointments. We're honored that this is the first interview you've done in three years and thankful for it and also inspired by your mission. I will obviously donate and help out with the gala. We will continue to promote your mission to helping out families of kids battling through cancer. And let's talk about the vocal cord surgery. So they told you no talking. So I've thought about this before as somebody who is a professional speaker. I'll lose my voice at the end of like football season. I'll go through and I won't have my voice. I won't know. Like, that's my biggest fear. Whenever we're on a microphone is that I'll have something and I have no idea if it's gonna. If it's gonna make any sound. I have no idea if my voice is gonna be able to created because I'm hoarse. I've been yelling and I'm a very loud person to begin with. But for you, I assume you've gone through times of going horse and losing your voice when you're told you can't speak as a professional orator. I mean, what is the initial reaction? And that that had to be mentally, that had to be very difficult.

[Dick Vitale]

You know what that I was telling my. My friend the other day, I go do a game. Like I recently did seven games. I was so glad to do them. It was like the best medicine in the world. But it's so difficult. Well, when you're going to do a game and you're my position, because of my vocal cord problems, instead of thinking about the strategy of the games and all, I'm thinking about what happens if my voice breaks down right now during the middle of the game. And I shouldn't be thinking like that. But the bottom line is that's what you live with. And the strategy I can do with my sleep. You know, talk of basketball, people write, oh, my God, he has a Mr. Beat. Well, you know, just like you talking football or whatever, I could talk that basketball in my sleep. And let's say this before I wrap up here, my final four are still alive. Michigan State and Florida looking at a board here in my house. Michigan State, Florida south and west in one semifinal, Duke in Houston in the other. When it's all said and done, Duke and Florida. And when it's set to cut the nets down and they're going to scream and yell, I get this all the time and I laugh about it. I was like, Dookie Vital, not Dickie Vital. He loves Do. Well, what's there not to like about, you know this? Pat, Think about why they're good. They're the only team in the nation, the only team that is in a situation where there's the draw. The only team that was in this situation where they're top five in the nation offensively and defensively. Efficiency. Well, when you excel in both those areas, you got a chance to win. And then they got the best player in the land. And no doubt about it, I mean, flags. And Proctor's been on fire. That's Proctor shooting the jumper. He's been on fire. But the kid, when you talk about certainly flag, he is so special, he makes those things happen because his Presence on the floor creates space for guys like Proctor to get free to shoot the three. So he's one of those guys, like, I guess, football, you have them as well. But he's one of those guys. His presence makes everybody better.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yes, absolutely. And also, I think he reclassified. He's supposed to be a senior in high school. He's special, special talent. And that coach down there. I'm learning more about White Mike over there in Chicago and his basketball playing career. Feels like they got it right, just like the basketball gods did whenever they blessed us with you for the better half of the last five decades. We appreciate the hell out of you, Dicky.

[Dick Vitale]

Well, I'll tell you this. I'm.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm hurt.

[Dick Vitale]

For one thing, though. The best linebacker in the history of Ohio State football is not on the show. Aj. Where's aj?

[Pat McAfee]

He's on spring break. He's got another spring break. Yeah. Ohio. That's what we're learning.

[Dick Vitale]

Hey, A.J. did I say it right? You're the best linebacker in football. You told me to say it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Classic. All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, ladies and gentlemen.

[Dick Vitale]

I tell you what, I need a lesson from you, how you connect, man. You obviously connect. And that connection you made. I tell you what, I would love to have my cash register go ding a ling ding. You know it, baby.

[Pat McAfee]

You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Dicky Vital. What a legend.

[Evan Fox]

That's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we put in a request for him a few weeks ago, and we got this big, long response that was like, want to come on the show? Love the show. Love you guys. Love everything about your program, but strict doctor's order is not allowed to talk right now. And we're like, damn. Didn't know it was like that. And then we learned more and more. It's like, he's on, like. Like, right there. We probably took too many of the things throughout the entire process, but imagine being Dicky Vital. Yeah, like, speaker, loudspeaker, Animated speaker. And then being told can't. Yeah, like, think about it. Gatherings.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he loves to. Holding court, shoot the breeze. He said, like, he loves doing that.

[Pat McAfee]

Just talk with the guys, you know, do the entire thing. And then they're like, yeah, by the way, not only are you going to have to battle cancer here and very serious, and go through all these treatments, you're not going to be allowed to speak like that. I. Mentally, that would be a wild thing. But obviously, Dicky Vital has done exactly what he's always done with everything, which is just commit fully and $92.9 million.

[Darius J. Butler]

Crazy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That's unbelievable. That is absolutely unbelievable. Baby, are you serious? How about him saying I Jack other people's. They will. They'll write me letters and they'll have stuff in there. Oh, I like that.

[Darius J. Butler]

That's good.

[Boston Connor]

I'm gonna use that.

[Pat McAfee]

But on a serious note. Yeah, that kind of drops into the other. Other stuff. Shout out to him. And if you can help raise money, I assume this would be a fantastic place to do it. I mean, $100 million, that's a great legacy to have. Shout out to him. And shout out to the V Foundation continuing to raise some money. Let's talk a little bit about NFL hoops. Oh, we should stay in college hoops. Juju.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, that was tough.

[Pat McAfee]

That's like her and Paige are the two. The two that are carrying wearing women's college hoops right now. And obviously we saw the clips from this past weekend where she was chatting with Jaden Daniels and Jaden Daniels mom throughout certain stuff. I think Jayden Daniels, I don't know, I was following on the Internet and then I watched it. Then I checked back in later. I thought Jayden Daniels mom was in between them to start. Then she left and they were sitting next to each other. It was being reported. And once again, I do not know. I do not know which one is real because, you know, timing of it all. But there is a chance, you know, she actually go up and left. Yeah. You know, and then Jaden and Juju sat next to me. I don't. Somebody would have to correct us on that whole thing. But you're talking about this a power duo here. Yeah. You know, just sharing secrets. Just sharing secrets about competing and life in the spotlight. And there's Jane Davis mom. We saw her whenever we were at radio Row at the Super Bowl. I think she said she would come on show and tell us the real. She did. So we were sending. Requesting need that for Jane Daniels, his mom. But Juju, one of the superstars of women's college hoops, tears her acl. That is absolutely devastating. That sucks.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, that sucks. So she's. She's. You know what? She's probably the face right now of women's college basketball. Her along with Paige, who Paige has suffered some devastating injuries as well while at UConn because she was kind of at the top of that level as well. But juju, I mean, she's awesome. Unprecedented. Unbelievable business she's doing off the court as well. I know on court. On pace to be to score the most points in women's college basketball history. I think she broke Caitlyn's two year mark. So she was definitely.

[Evan Fox]

She's only a sophomore.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah. So she. I mean, she cooks and her game. Her game is nasty and aesthetically pleasing as well. So hopefully she gets a quick, strong recovery, man. Cause she's awesome to watch play basketball.

[Pat McAfee]

Godspeed to juju. And also, I guess West Virginia women's basketball team got hosed down in North Carolina.

[Boston Connor]

I'll tell you what, they gave the tar Heels everything they could handle.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But I heard the refs were playing for Bubba's team.

[Evan Fox]

Oh, UNC keeps again.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what I read. That's what I read.

[Darius J. Butler]

What was the score? The close.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's like 67 North Carolina 1.

[Pat McAfee]

Because the refs wanted them to about 11.

[Ty Schmidt]

11. I think it wasn't that close.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, of course I. How many refs are on the court? Three, two, three.

[Boston Connor]

The foul discrepancies.

[Pat McAfee]

Playing eight on five.

[Darius J. Butler]

I mean, got be kidding me.

[Pat McAfee]

North Carolina.

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean, is West Virginia taking sweet 16?

[Darius J. Butler]

Was that sweet 16?

[Ty Schmidt]

Round of 32.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Round. Okay. Yeah, that's. That's close. For women's College basketball, round 32. That's close.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. 5847.

[Darius J. Butler]

You go look some of those.

[Pat McAfee]

5847.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, yeah, it's a barn burner.

[Evan Fox]

There was a double overtime game last night. Maryland and Bama.

[Pat McAfee]

I was watching. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Now that's a barn burner. And I saw one, one of the girls for bama. Yeah. Dropped 45 points. Yeah. And they lost.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Bet on everything. Women's college hoops as well.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. The spreads are tough. The first couple rounds. I. I believe Texas in the first game was minus 48 and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

How do we feel? Okay. Which is tough.

[Evan Fox]

What's your problem?

[Pat McAfee]

What's your problem?

[Darius J. Butler]

That's what I'm saying. Like these games, trust me, you come for four years. Like you knew the first, you know.

[Boston Connor]

Couple rounds like, all right, like USC.

[Evan Fox]

USC won 7125.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Evan Fox]

First game.

[Pat McAfee]

And then obviously West Virginia keeps it close alongside unc and the refs obviously doing their thing. I asked about the gambling because I've seen the commercials. We've all seen the commercials.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah. It's crazy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

About the college player, prop bets. I feel like that's a big push. I think Charlie Baker, who's president of the ncaa, he was in here and I think he said that's something that he's really trying to get behind the college Player preps. I get our props are obviously problematic for like professional athletes, but they're professional athletes for the college kids. They're professional athletes too, or they're not professional athletes. I don't, you know, it's an interesting world that we're in right now because do we view college athletes as professional athletes or do we still view them as college kids? And I think we should still view them as college aged kids because they're 18, 19, 20 years old. Obviously you're still figuring out who the hell you are as a person then can still go through things, still feel things, especially nowadays with the social media world. But I guess the prop bets are the ones that really get people the most animated. Yeah, you know, the team will win. But old buddy did not have 10 rebounds. Old buddy did not have 17 and a half points. So he has 17. Didn't have 17 or didn't have 18 to, to beat 17 and a half. Maybe even has a triple double, has 17, goes for 10 and then let's say 11 boards or something like that. And he'll get terrible things said because he didn't go over on his points. Obviously this is something that is going to happen in professional sports, but I think the college world, they're really trying to get rid of those. I think they are really, really, really trying to get rid of that. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Not even every state has the prop bets for college. Like, I don't know, in Ohio. Ohio, you can't bet props for college games. Indiana, I think you can. So I assume those commercials we were seeing too were specific to India, like lobbying.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Evan Fox]

For a while when you were here, you couldn't even bet on Purdue or Indiana.

[Darius J. Butler]

Connecticut too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think his states are still like that. Yeah, I think like Illinois, you can. Jersey. Yeah, Jersey. You can't bet on a few. The prop bets themselves though, they're thinking about kind of getting.

[Evan Fox]

I don't, I don't, I don't, I, I don't think there's a need for, for the prop bets in college. Like, you know, there's enough options.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, I agree.

[Boston Connor]

Well, I mean, not only.

[Pat McAfee]

This guy hosts a show called Hammer, which is a daily sports gambling show. And you know, let's go to the other half of the Hammer D Cowboys, Bubba Gumpino, Gumpy. How many player props are you doing in college ball? I don't do player props. Just bet the games. Okay. Are you saying that just because you have no idea what's going to happen each night?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, I just rather ride and die with A team.

[Pat McAfee]

Team. I'm not. I'm not a big player prop guy myself.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

I don't.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know many people that are really diving into the college props that much. So I assume it's other college kids probably. It's probably colleges probably doing it to get. Getting into gambling. The first like couple years of gambling, they know, they've seen we understand a little bit more. And obviously if you think you have it figured out, that is going to be what you gamble on and to play your prop bets, it's, you know, easy to. There's some bets that seem like pretty easy, especially, you know, a team, but it is. It does feel like the other side of it is pretty heavy. And with how much they're pushing against, it feels like there is a big effort to kind of get rid of those prop bets. And I. I don't know what the reaction will be, but I assume everybody will be okay with it.

[Boston Connor]

Not that we've seen much of it in like the recent, you know, like the last really since it got super popular, but not only like kids getting a lot of. On Twitter, but I assume they're also thinking like, this is much more susceptible for like games getting fixed and stuff like that, you know, because we just saw it in the NBA with that Johnte Porter, I think that was his name. Like, if that starts creeping into college basketball, like, even in the slightest where, you know, it's like four and a half rebounds or points or something like that, like you could see, like you were saying, you know, a college kid who maybe isn't getting as much nil money as. As he thinks he should be getting, like, that would be a very easy way to be like, oh, okay, I'm supposed to score. You know, my over under is 14 and a half tonight. Like, I can score 12, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

And just I can produce on defensive side.

[Boston Connor]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

I still have a good game, but not too good of a game. And we're not saying most athletes are thinking like, no, but all you need is one or two and then obviously everything goes down. So I'm okay with the push. I. I think that'll be something that'll probably get passed in most places. I think.

[Darius J. Butler]

I agree.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so what's his name? Last. Last week tonight, John Oliver. John Oliver ran a clip of Tyrese Halliburton talking about the player props on his show from our show where Halliburton was like, yeah, I'll still get somebody telling me that I didn't do enough for them or whatever. It's like in pros.

[Darius J. Butler]

Won't be me. Halliburton's player, prop lock, nine assists, locked.

[Pat McAfee]

He's what, like, I don't know how many games straight he's had where Double.

[Darius J. Butler]

Double, double trouble had 11, 11 assists, one. One turnover, I think last night.

[Pat McAfee]

He's unbelievable.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, he's. He's amazing.

[Ty Schmidt]

As hot as you can be.

[Pat McAfee]

He's got so much moxie too. And he's a good friend of the program.

[Ty Schmidt]

Talking a lot of shits against the Nets. It was awesome. I don't know if you saw that clip.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Ty Schmidt]

Also, whoever does the like trash talk leak is so good at it. I don't know how, but they. They can turn up the sound of the players and you can actually hear them talking shit. But he was talking to this guy that was kind of. I don't know if he was badmouth now than Mathurin at the free throw line. Benedict Mathurin. But it was towards the end of the game and Mathurin kind of like went to give the guy on the Nets a handshake, just screwing with them. And then Tyrese and him went back and forth and Tyrese got him real good.

[Pat McAfee]

I.

[Ty Schmidt]

But again, whoever is doing these NBA mic'd up leagues keep going because they also did the Carl Anthony Townsends and Draymond Green one, and that one was pure comedy.

[Pat McAfee]

So are they using like the Dark Knight, you know the. When old buddy goes down the basement and they have that entire board with the super computer and they have all the sounds. They're like, we can do that. Is there like some AI that's just taking everybody's cell phone and every camera that is in there and piecing together the audio? Because how are they turning? Because I'll watch the videos. They'll have the audio. Like, somehow I'm like, where are they getting this microphone from? Are they just gathering all of the microphones and doing it. It. But you're right. We are getting clips of people talking that were definitely not on the live broadcast.

[Ty Schmidt]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

And then somehow hearing them much clearer than you would think. And then all of a sudden I go like, is that fake? Like, is that fake or is that real? And then you got people saying, no, it's real.

[Darius J. Butler]

Every different arena, like, to your point, like, how are they.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't.

[Ty Schmidt]

I think I. I want to say it's league pass. Because with the NBA league pass, you can use so many different camera angles. You can click on specific ones. Typically, they don't go to commercial break, so you're just getting, like, a legitimate look at, like, the stadium camera. And sometimes that is just a hard cam. Yeah, like. Yeah, hard cam. But sometimes even during timeouts, like, they're zoomed in on huddles and you can kind of see stuff. But I also thought, AI, of course this is. But then when you watch, like, Tyrese and them talking, it's. Oh, no. This is exactly what they are saying to each other. It is so cool. But I think it's the league path.

[Pat McAfee]

The lip readers are also cool. And, you know, Internet, I really appreciate them. You know, deaf people have been able to read lips for a while on the Internet. It's like, certified deaf lip reader here.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, yeah, I know this is what they're saying.

[Pat McAfee]

It's incredible. I always go right into it, too. Yeah, they have to. They have to. And then I'm looking at the lips. I can see how that's. I can see how that's being said.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was like the entire thing last year with Harry Styles spitting on Chris Pine when he showed up at the. At the Oscars thing or the premiere of the movie or whatever.

[Pat McAfee]

28 years old, been lip reading for 27 years.

[Ty Schmidt]

You can see it.

[Pat McAfee]

I know exactly what's being said here. Speaking about what's being said, Texas has their pro day leg. Good luck to all the boys down there. We're in pro day season right now for everybody except for anybody that's in the Big 12, I guess what is. They got a combine. I don't like that that's happening. But whatever the case, shout out to DJ and the boys for covering that. Quinn Ewers today is obviously a big story. Golden down there, Bond down there. A lot of superstars on this team. Speed is kind of the story of a Sark offense. Quinn, yours can do a lot of good for himself today. Tone, or what is the conversation around this Texas Pro Day?

[Evan Fox]

Yeah, Quinn's fascinating because of coming into this year after last year. I mean, he went. He took the semifinals, he threw for 300 in basically every playoff game that he's. He's basically ever been in. But coming into the season, he was like, bonafide, guaranteed first round pick.

[Darius J. Butler]

And.

[Evan Fox]

And then, you know, the report comes out that he. He played the season with the torno bleak after he got hurt and he kind of dropped down some boards. But it'll be interesting because him throwing at these pro days is actually important because, you know, you saw. You saw the last season and then how he threw this year was much different. So I think this one's big for him. Yeah, golden ran. Golden ran the 429 at the combine, so I don't know if he's going to run. Bond ran a 43 9, but be because he said he was going to break the record, people thought, you know, not a great time. So we'll see if he runs it then. Gunner Helm, the tight end who I don't almost snapped his ankle doing the 40 and then chose to run it and then, you know, didn't have a great time in the drills and stuff like that because of his ankle.

[Pat McAfee]

So.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah, there's a big pro day down in Texas.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, the corner too, on the top corner. I think he was the top corner on DJs board. I think he had him at 11. Baron interested to see what he does. But yeah, I think this is a huge today for Queen Quinn because of what you mentioned playing through that injury. So I know a lot of people want to see really how much juice does he have on his arm and his throwing motion and how that'll look on pro day. So this would be a big day for him. This would be a moving day for Quinn.

[Pat McAfee]

I think Sark is just going to create NFL guys down there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah, Factory.

[Pat McAfee]

Dicky V just talks about the amount of money that some schools have and everything like that. They have like three different, like, funds or something like that. That's why they were talking about it being hard to coach at Texas. They're like, it's not easy to coach at Texas because there's a lot of hands in the pot. Like, there's a lot of chefs in the kitchen because a lot of people are giving money. A lot of people have ideas. There's a board of trustees, they. They chat about all the bad things that could potentially come with coaching in Texas. And it's always everybody else that has a piece of it. But if you're able to rally all those people and get on the same page, it's like you got a lot of access to a lot of different things. Coaching staffs as well. I think they're going to have like one of the largest coaching staffs in America. That's just becoming like a new thing. And then players, they're able to get whoever they want. And if you get, if you get offered to Texas, like, still holds value. Obviously the name Texas and brand name of Texas is always going to be huge. But the way they take care of the facilities, the football, like, everything about them is a team that if they have the proper backing, which they do, it's sustainable greatness for a long, long time. They're going to have a lot of NFL guys coming out of Texas. Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Big time. And you mentioned it. The long as you can get the players, the top tier talent. And when we watch Ohio State go on their run, I feel like this was the only team that can kind of compete with them pound for pound. Obviously Ohio State went on beat the, beat him by a couple scores, made some big plays down the stretch. But this team from top to bottom is that. We saw it in combine too. We obviously their, their tape is one thing, but then for them to go out there and put the numbers up that they did. I'm excited to see what the future holds with old Arch taking the helm as well.

[Ty Schmidt]

Exactly. Like I, I believe there. It wasn't leaked officially, but people are already speculating that, you know, Jeremiah Smith, Ryan Williams and Arch Manning are the COVID of the next video game for the college football.

[Pat McAfee]

I saw they up that money. They doubled it or whatever. They went to a thousand bucks, twelve.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hundred bucks in the game made over a billion. So you know, think what you want. But also.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but everybody was mad about Arch Manning not signing the deal or whatever. Arch Manning, the only players that he's like, you think the Manning family, like, yeah, you give us 500 bucks. I don't think so. Okay. A lot of people are going to be using old Arch Manning even if he's backing up Quinn yours because he is a dog. Yeah. Arch Manning is about to be a guy.

[Darius J. Butler]

He's on a game this year. All right.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he, he, he was on the game. Maybe it was just number 16. I don't know.

[Boston Connor]

I think he did come to an.

[Ty Schmidt]

Agreement, thought he was still in the game.

[Pat McAfee]

But, but anybody that was trying to make that look as a bad thing, I thought was an. I thought it was an awesome. I was on a complete opposite inspection. I'm like, hell yeah. EA Sports is about to learn quickly. Yeah. Like, yeah. You're not just. Okay, 200 bucks.

[Boston Connor]

600 bucks.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I don't think we haven't worked our asses off for generations. Okay, for a $600, let's get in there. But Arch being a part of now, everything they're building, that's an easy sell too. You got the money, you got every, all the resources. And also we got a quarterback named Arch Manning that you have seen literally grow up in front of her eyes. He's going to be a guy too. Especially just waiting too, you know, like I had a source during the season.

[Boston Connor]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Or I think you can say sis with the way I said that sentence. Reach out to me and say, like, hey, we are not. We're okay with Arch. Like, we're okay with this whole development thing. Like, we do not expect him to just be bum, bum, bum, bum, bum right in there. That was the decision they made going into Texas, knowing everything they were going to know. Then Quinn gets hurt, Arch goes in. That could have got real loud, especially with Arch winning and stuff like that. Now he made some mistakes. Obviously, they're picking apart, like, well, he didn't do this well. It's like this guy's first fucking second game in this entire thing. Did well.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Then Quinn goes back in. Quinn has struggles later. Still nothing. Just, like, understand the process of it. And when he gets in there, he's going to be experienced, he's going to be comfortable, he's going to know the offense and they're going to have dogs all around him. Which goes back to the conversation we're talking about right now.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, and the entire thing of when he did go in, it wasn't as if, like, the guys didn't like him. Like we talked about with Will Howard, like, he's doing dancing with dances with other guys. The lineman after he's throwing touchdowns or turning around and celebrating with him. Like, clearly, he's also just a football guy. Normal.

[Pat McAfee]

One of the boys.

[Ty Schmidt]

One of the dudes. Yeah, exactly. So even that aspect of it. Do you think having all the Mannings around will also be a massive benefit for Texas football or what do you think?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think so. The. Obviously, I think it's good to have the Mannings around, especially whenever they do the Manning Academy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

And the whole family's been doing that for however long down there in Louisiana. I think the biggest thing is the money gets your players. But what players does it get? Well, it gets the guys that run very fast. 40s. Right. Because they go to these Nike Camps and they get these times. It's like all the big recruits that you're paying out of high school, at least, are guys that can jump high, run fast, and are projected to be incredible athletes. So whenever you think about NFL draft picks, it's always like, the guys that are just, like, incredible. I think Texas is about to have a pipeline. The more we think about it here with the resources that they have, with what they've already shown in the last couple of years. Speed, speed, speed is what they're looking for. Sark offense is looking for that feed mat. I think they're becoming a Pipeline, you talk about the defensive side last year.

[Darius J. Butler]

To be beat out. Jeremiah Smith, Edward Simmons. Simmons, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what money gets you though, is the freak athlete.

[Darius J. Butler]

And then you have the coaches and. And then also them been in the sec because now you know you're going to be competing in that. In the best conference in fall football. Even though Big Ten did their thing last year.

[Boston Connor]

It wasn't last year.

[Darius J. Butler]

But I think the SEC is the best conference in football. So that's also a. Yeah. Top, bottom.

[Pat McAfee]

Now, with that being said, talking about resources and money, a lot of teams up North. North have the resources and money for football. That is a. I think that is a genuine conversation that's happening behind the scenes. We should ask Sankey about that next time. Like, hey, Sankey, are you worried about all the yuppies up north who create all the CEOs, all the suits, basically? I'm not saying there isn't great business schools in the South. I haven't done enough research on that.

[Ty Schmidt]

But you just mentioned the Walmart.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. They got money, Jerry. They got people. Okay. You need to have a few of them. Those people at your school, you need it up there in the north, all these big. They got a lot of money. People that are around Michigan. Michigan recruited one.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

They recruited maybe the richest. So I would like to let the world know that for West Virginia, I am currently recruiting billionaires. Okay. Okay. Because it feels like that's the game you're going to need. West Virginia doesn't have a lot of them coming out of West Virginia University. Got Kendrick. Yeah. Great to see him taking a picture with Rod. Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

That helps.

[Pat McAfee]

Need him.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Need him all the way in.

[Pat McAfee]

Need him. In need. Brother, we love you. Okay. We love you. We need you all the way in. In that particular game. But like Penn State, I. I don't want to bring it up every time we talk about this, but literally direct messaging from their school is we can afford anybody at anything in any sport. We got it. And they, they put a seven. They're doing a $700 million rebound over the stadium. They got that cash, brother. Like that is like let alone building a roster. They're Talking about a 700 million dollar just remodel of stadium. We didn't make this place. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boom, boom, boom, boom. I'll tell you what, you donate 10 million, you get access to speakeasy right down here. You can have your own little parking spot. Walk in here, got a place to go to the bathroom and a drink during the game. 10 million a year, no problem. Bang, bang, bang, bang. They're just able to. They're not the only ones. Oregon, you know, Oregon's able to do the same thing.

[Evan Fox]

Has more cash than the SEC at the top.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, definitely.

[Evan Fox]

When you. Oregon, Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.

[Pat McAfee]

Penn State, lot of money. Lot of money and a lot of people ready to give. And like, hey, this is the game now. Deal. We're all the way.

[Darius J. Butler]

Money won't be an issue. But Penn State, everyone in programs where. Got to see it to believe it. Yeah, I got, you know, he's got to see it to believe. Even like A M, you know, Texas A and M for years. Oh, they got all the money, all the resources Jimbo's making, but like, never could really get over that hump. Oregon has, you know, gotten there close. But the guy. The teams that we know have done like, even Texas, Texas have been there before. So we, we can kind of visualize that. We can see them being a dominant program. So I got some of these other programs, I gotta, I gotta, gotta see them.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, and they're not in a conference, but that's why I like Notre Dame this year. It feels like turned a corner just.

[Pat McAfee]

Because they got 12,700 employees.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Bingo. I can't imagine what time. I can't imagine how many employees Texas has.

[Pat McAfee]

They said they were the number. The number one company voted on, I guess by 200,000 employees across the U.S. wow. Status. Number one employer of 20, 25, Notre Dame.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's from Boardroom. I saw something about innovative companies from them too.

[Pat McAfee]

They put the Catholics up there at number one, brother, you know.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, but I mean, once you, is, you know, once you start releasing.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought I was pretty good employer. Weren't we a pretty good employer? Did you guys give, did you guys do any votes?

[Boston Connor]

They didn't ask.

[Pat McAfee]

They didn't ask.

[Ty Schmidt]

And I'll tell you what, that's what.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys would say, though. That's what you guys would say.

[Boston Connor]

I wouldn't put Notre Dame at number one, that's for damn sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

And also, isn't Delta having a bunch of planes blow up?

[Pat McAfee]

Allegedly.

[Ty Schmidt]

Allegedly.

[Pat McAfee]

Whatever the case, congrats to all these companies. You're really doing.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that Nvidia logo looks interesting too.

[Pat McAfee]

They're doing great up there. I. I don't know.

[Ty Schmidt]

Why don't you tell me? Just check it out. I have to go.

[Pat McAfee]

Nvidia, they get. They're worth 100 trillion or something like that. Google, remember they had little sleeping pods. I saw that. They did Those sleeping pods, in and.

[Boston Connor]

Out, inexpensive burgers, right? You know?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but they're the best in the world.

[Boston Connor]

The employees.

[Darius J. Butler]

Happy Stranger Joe's 45 seconds.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Real deal.

[Evan Fox]

I love.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, we will continue on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney plus, and TikTok Live, which is the exact same place other than ESPN plus and Disney plus that big night out will be. We will see you tomorrow here on espn. Goodbye. Okay. Yeah, I announced that last night. Should have done a little bigger announcement.

[Darius J. Butler]

Did you know you were announcing it last night?

[Pat McAfee]

We decided four minutes before Cole's like, what am I supposed to say here? I'm like, what are you saying? He goes, I'm saying, ba, ba, ba. Sell it. And ba, ba, ba. And then do you want to. What are you going to say? I was like, would you say I'm streaming it? I don't think that's been announced yet. All right. Then literally 35 seconds later, kind of comes together. You know, it was. It was kind of forced announcement. Rushed announcement. I say not forced, a rushed announcement. But with that being said. Yeah, YouTube, tick tock live. And X. Didn't know, you know, because didn't know if there was going to be a want to go see it. You know, once there was a want to be in the arena, which I appreciate. And then I saw the reaction. It was like, all right, we should do a streaming version of this particular program. And WWE will be, you know, cameraing, rigging, setting up, and we'll be. Yeah, it should be a good old program. I think it's gonna be a pretty good little program. There will also be giveaways for those watching at home. Okay. Obviously, those will happen via the X platform, you know, because it's the easiest way to search things, find things, and respond in real time. I know there's other platforms that people love. I can appreciate whatever your reasoning is. But on X, for giveaways, it's easiest for us because search hashtag. We can find literally the time that it's mentioned. And if you mess up the hashtag, it's on you. So you gotta. You gotta do the entire thing. So we'll be doing giveaways throughout the entire evening to those watching at home. And it should be a. Should be a wonderful Wednesday night over there in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

[Darius J. Butler]

Those friends, are those their actual silhouettes?

[Pat McAfee]

Those are not their actual silhouettes. Those are bland silhouettes. And also, I don't know if that's the proper amount of people that will be there that evening. Okay, keep guessing.

[Darius J. Butler]

I was about to start making Some guesses.

[Pat McAfee]

There's a lot of people guessing on the Internet. I do appreciate that those people guessing things on the Internet have led to some uncomfortable conversations between me and people you know, hey, I'm coming.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is this real? That'd be cool. I guess I can make it work.

[Boston Connor]

Quick turnaround.

[Pat McAfee]

But it's a cool position to be in where people do want to actually be on the show, which I thought would be the complete opposite, you know. So I've got a couple text messages. Hey, I've got my mentions. Have you. Is there a.

[Boston Connor]

What am I doing?

[Pat McAfee]

Is there something to.

[Ty Schmidt]

This would be fun.

[Pat McAfee]

It's like. I don't think. Think so. Well, why not? Oh, it might be an excellent. Yeah, Would that be cool? But it's been a lot of. That's gonna be fucking cool, man.

[Derrick Queen]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That's gonna be really cool. The people that I'm working with at the WWE to piece the in production shit together because they obviously do arena shows around the world. They are showcasing that it's been a lot of fun because it feels like they're actually pumped up about it. Well, and I don't know if that's just strictly because they want me to feel good about it or if they actually are pumped, but it feels like they are genuinely pumped up. And the amount of ideas that are being pitched now, not only by the WWE and the production folks, but also like the people that have been booked for said show, like, there is a lot of positive energy going around. Too much maybe.

[Evan Fox]

No, no such thing.

[Darius J. Butler]

No such thing.

[Evan Fox]

There's positive energy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're right. Because the universe responds a positive.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's right.

[Darius J. Butler]

Go Mana.

[Pat McAfee]

It is. Oh, it is. You said Oklahoma drink.

[Ty Schmidt]

That was cool.

[Darius J. Butler]

Sounds wild.

[Pat McAfee]

See that? I mean, I didn't know rugby's doing the Oklahoma drill. That was. But I'll tell you what. George Foster, 72, good follow. Former teammate of mine, offensive lineman in the NFL for a while. He is a good follow. And I'll tell you what, the use GLA drill. I don't know they're doing this in rugby or if this is every day happening, but what a ball carrier long. Turns out he ended up winning. They had him in the first half, you see, and then in the second half, he flipped that entire thing around. What a collision with no pads on, no helmet.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Vertical.

[Darius J. Butler]

How to drive your fetal contact. True.

[Evan Fox]

You can't stop your feet.

[Darius J. Butler]

I don't know how to drive your.

[Pat McAfee]

Fetal contact isn't E MC squared. I assume there was a math equation Happening in old buddy's head as he was running at him. If I hit him clean and leave my feet, there's no way this guy stays standing. And at the beginning, he was right. Yeah, that sternum was collapsing a little bit. But then us just respond, no, put his foot in the ground. It runs him over. What a collision. Tyschmitt.

[Boston Connor]

I mean, that both those guys should be dead. Realistically, both of those guys should be dead. And I'm guessing that we didn't get the footage, but they probably popped back up and did this, like, 15, 16 more times.

[Pat McAfee]

Especially with that crowd around you. How could you feel anything with that amount of people? Especially under her lights. What if night? And thank you to them for doing that. There's other magical videos circulating around the Internet, you know? Did you see Luka hit this shot? Oh, my God.

[Ty Schmidt]

What?

[Pat McAfee]

Luka Doncic. From the corner, from a vom. Okay, So I believe those are called voms. In arenas, you take a vom to go back to wherever you need to go. Before he heads back to the locker room. Luka Doncic, who has a million trick shots in his arsenal, hits that. I don't know how that goes in. Okay. I put that one out there, and I go, what the is this? Or something like that. I forget my actual tweet about it. It ended up getting, like, 6 million. A lot of people felt the same exact way, because the physics of that. I. I don't think that is supposed to. How high you have to shoot that to be able to come down the mortar without close. It is. And then also skips off the front.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And it still goes in. It's like, what a shot. He has that bounce shot he has off the jumbotron shot. Luca, you could tell, just grew up throwing a ball at a hoop his entire life. This shot. Unbelievable.

[Darius J. Butler]

I mean, these guys obviously do it for. You know, this is what they do for doing all their life. So they got trick shots out the ass. But this is crazy. I mean, this is like a flop shot, like, right over. Like, that's.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's a flop shot.

[Darius J. Butler]

That's, like, unbelievable. And we saw the. With some other guys doing it too, but this. Luca, this is something you would expect if you. If I had to pick a guy who can make a guy like this, a shot like this would be Luka and probably two other guys.

[Pat McAfee]

The thing about Luka is whenever you do do that, you have to say, wow, hoop looks big tonight. You know, you make. He had 20 in the first quarter after making it. How could you not? After you make that, it's like everything's falling.

[Darius J. Butler]

Lethal shooter got to do now.

[Pat McAfee]

Lethal shooters.

[Darius J. Butler]

Let's see if he understands that.

[Pat McAfee]

Lethal shooter will be able to put a bottle in the hoop and he'll throw a gummy somehow over. I understand it. And somehow that will drop right in there. You know who I don't believe and never will anymore who's. Oh, oh. Great shooter in history. Steph Curry. From one vom all the way to the opposite end of the court. Remember we saw a Sports Illustrated video a few years back where Steph Curry made five full court shots in a row? Then they told us it was just green screen. He wouldn't be able to do that before a game.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, can't fake that one.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow, good. I lost my mind line. I said, holy. Steph Curry's a guy. That didn't go. It.

[Ty Schmidt]

What? Saw it.

[Darius J. Butler]

Are you Me?

[Pat McAfee]

There's multiple other angles that didn't go in. Yeah, look. Didn't go.

[Evan Fox]

That's not Seth's fault.

[Pat McAfee]

Didn't go in. Now they clap for him. Yeah. Okay, so he's just got to kind of take that and kind of move, I guess.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, I'm never. I'm.

[Evan Fox]

Oh, you think he knows it didn't go in?

[Pat McAfee]

Huh?

[Evan Fox]

You think he knows it didn't go in?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he. Steph Curry. Hurry. I mean. No, watch. Watch his reaction after this shot. He like go. He puts his fingers up like just so close. I almost made that. Okay, so you think he was trying to tell the crowd I didn't do it? Exactly. But the Internet didn't understand that I was forced this on my algo saying, look what Steph just did. Wait for it.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, yeah, he should. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Look at that guy. So close. Right there. So close. Okay, okay, okay. So we should apologize.

[Darius J. Butler]

I apologize.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we do apologize.

[Darius J. Butler]

All right.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Not Steph's fault. Internet's fault for sure for telling us it was.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was a makeup, definitely.

[Pat McAfee]

Because we go from Luca to this. I'm like, these dudes need to. These dudes need to go on Thor.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I don't know what all trick shots they got in their bag, but this is an unbelievable thing. So it's not Steph's fault. Sports Illustrated thing.

[Ty Schmidt]

That was his fault.

[Darius J. Butler]

100 completely.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That. That can't be happening. Very makeable. I think he would have been able to make make on the other side.

[Ty Schmidt]

Though, especially after watching that.

[Pat McAfee]

I think he. Cuz he read the curve of that.

[Ty Schmidt]

And where he was in the sports Illustrated video. He wasn't in aal. He was like, in front of the net and in this. Yeah, there it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Here it is.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's like, okay, now, I definitely believe he could do this, but I never would if he did.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Like, why wouldn't Steph be able to do this? Of course he can.

[Darius J. Butler]

Maybe we're not the demo.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean?

[Darius J. Butler]

I mean, because when we were kids, there were some commercials that. That completely captivated us.

[Pat McAfee]

Back on the LeBron.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, LeBron. Was that to.

[Ty Schmidt]

Or Andre Johnson.

[Darius J. Butler]

Andre Johnson. Michael Vick. It was like, okay, it's real. Nobody could miss me. Otherwise, so amazing.

[Boston Connor]

Crosby kicking the bell tower.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, there are some great ones.

[Pat McAfee]

I mentioned it there. Beckham hitting the garbage cans. Do you remember that out there on the beach?

[Boston Connor]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought, yeah, he could probably do that. Yeah, I thought that, yeah, David Beckham could do that. That one I thought, yeah, Steph could do.

[Evan Fox]

Was it Ronald Dino off the goal post?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, like the volleys.

[Darius J. Butler]

Tom Brady just did one in jugs machine.

[Evan Fox]

Well, you can tell. You can tell.

[Boston Connor]

All of his are fam. Marina. You know, throwing it from the boat. That one was real.

[Darius J. Butler]

Let's not go. Let's not go too far. Damn, Marino. It's real.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, I know. I mean, that's what I'm saying. How many Vic actually threw that football out of the stadium at the.

[Evan Fox]

I believed it at the time. I thought he did.

[Ty Schmidt]

The coolest one was the m. NBA.

[Pat McAfee]

Which one?

[Ty Schmidt]

The Jingle Bells one where they actually shot all those balls.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you're talking about the eight hoops.

[Ty Schmidt]

The eight hoops, yeah.

[Evan Fox]

You said that wasn't.

[Pat McAfee]

That was fun. That was to see them kind of all get on the same page like that. That's good to see. Teamwork. I like that type of stuff. Speaking of. LeBron James will be on the show probably tomorrow. What? What?

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Probably tomorrow.

[Ty Schmidt]

Holy.

[Pat McAfee]

That's pretty. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's insane.

[Pat McAfee]

None of us really fully. No, it's to happen.

[Ty Schmidt]

I believe it when I see it.

[Pat McAfee]

That's the big thing.

[Ty Schmidt]

When it. When I. I see that it is currently happening.

[Pat McAfee]

Would be so cool if it was to happen and we'd be very pumped about it. Yes. But a lot of things seemingly have to fall into place here, and we're hoping that it does. Yeah, we're hoping that our. Our. Our show is not based downtown Indianapolis.

[Evan Fox]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

So we are just hoping that that information has been.

[Evan Fox]

It's within the vicinity.

[Pat McAfee]

I've been told it has. Guys. Vicinity is a good. Good Way to say.

[Darius J. Butler]

I mean, we got same state, get a workout in.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I mean, why not do the shoot around here? It's a little bit of a drive, though.

[Boston Connor]

He's used to it, though.

[Evan Fox]

La.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, it's like the same thing, you know, Like, I mean, it's going to take, you know, 20, 25, 30 minutes to get there. No big deal. You're used to it.

[Pat McAfee]

I just. I wanted to make sure that that message was said to him because I don't need him to land and then get told what it is, and I'm not doing that.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, true.

[Pat McAfee]

So I just would like it to be told like, Mark, hey, did you relay the message? Yep. They said he does know. I'm like, that's what it is right now, though. Like, you guys Google the map now, what it will be at that time, right? Yeah, it'll be all right. He's in. Sorry. We can't wait to talk to you. Bronco King James. LeBron James.

[Darius J. Butler]

There's some good songs going on, going around the Internet.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that?

[Darius J. Butler]

LeBron James.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, man, the LeBron James mixes someone did. Listened to was hey there, Delilah. You know that song?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

And someone did hey there, LeBron. And it. I mean, there are these mixes of songs going around in there.

[Pat McAfee]

Are they saying LA City or New York City? What's the next?

[Ty Schmidt]

To be honest, I don't remember specifically. I do. Or it's like, what's it like being the goat or something like that?

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so we're completely saying LA City.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay, sweet.

[Pat McAfee]

So I hadn't heard it, but sounds like I. It's a Tick Tock thing. I understand it now.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Bingo.

[Evan Fox]

Tick tock's wacky, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Zany. We're on there. We're on there a lot. Yeah. A lot of people get their information from our TikTok, I guess.

[Evan Fox]

Oh, yeah, Nice.

[Pat McAfee]

I find that out when I'm out and about, you know. That's a interesting little piece of information. I'll say it every time. They're the most positive community out there out of all social media.

[Ty Schmidt]

So they're real.

[Pat McAfee]

So positive. Yeah, so positive. They're very nice. Shout out to TikTok.

[Darius J. Butler]

Daughter's one of them, your daughter.

[Pat McAfee]

Big tick tocker.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah. Her friend group, like a huge Tick tockers.

[Pat McAfee]

They dance.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah. But not as much that. And that. That kind of gets annoying. You gotta understand that they're kids. So, you know, I'm going to practice. I'm sitting on the sideline and they're over there, you know. Five minutes before practice in there.

[Pat McAfee]

Lock in.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, I just gotta relax, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, we're on Tick Tock. Relax. Okay. I'm gonna be Ban it from the locker room. You can be on TikTok. You just can't dance on TikTok. That's what we're trying to. Yeah, I know they're going to be on it, so I can't just ban the app. I wish I could. I wish I could. They just can't dance on the app. You see, they can open it, but when they open it, I better not see them in tats in our locker room dancing. Okay. Hard edge. What's hard edge about you in your spanx dancing around on Tick Tock? That was Rich Rod's message to the team.

[Ty Schmidt]

Good miss.

[Boston Connor]

Made sense.

[Darius J. Butler]

Great miss.

[Pat McAfee]

And you delete that. I really do wonder how these kids feel going from Neil Brown to Rich Rodriguez.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. I mean, there's a reason.

[Darius J. Butler]

Similar message.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

So many people entered the portal. I would like to see the numbers on West Virginia.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, I couldn't imagine. It just we went from. From Rich Rodriguez to Bill Stewart, rest in peace, who's a legend. But with Bill Stewart came a new strength coach who's still there. Mike Joseph is a great dude, but just the entire culture was very different than what it was with Richard. Rich Rod is like, hey, we're on time. We're working our asses off and we're just. We're all. We are. You are all in. This is all the time. This is what we are. And then everything else is like, you know, like, it's just a little bit different. Like, everybody's culture is a little bit different from what I got to experience briefly with Neil Brown's culture and what we know about Neil. Neil represented West Virginia with a lot of class, and I think he was an incredibly nice guy. Was giving credit to the other coach all the time, you know, credit to this team, credit to that team. He was very respectful. Like, I do appreciate that. But I think they had a different culture than what Rich Rod would have. And I wonder now, now after one spring, especially with that transfer portal thing available, like, what guys are going to do, you know, because I assume there is an easier way that they've already, like, maybe experienced. Like, hey, it doesn't have to be, you know, So I do wonder about that. But are we at a time now where people are understanding where you're. It's good to be held accountable whenever you're trying to become like an adult. Like, it's good to be coached. It's good to go really hard. Hard. It's good to do these things. Like, I think at the beginning of the transfer portal was like, I don't like you and transfer. You're mean, transfer. All those things. He just talked about 700 guys in a portal or whatever it is in the entire thing. I think at the beginning of the portal there was a lot of that. I wonder if we're getting to a point now where maybe there's a little bit more like, hey, got to go through a little bit of adversity.

[Darius J. Butler]

I hope so.

[Pat McAfee]

I hope so too. Need it. You need it.

[Darius J. Butler]

You hear a lot of the coaches talk about. I'm sure players probably talk about spotted amongst themselves. So many people going to the portal and get. Just get left high and dry. And then I feel very, very bad for the high school kids where they don't have the same opportunity that we had. We were coming out. So if you are in a spot, if you are in a spot where you can't compete, you got a coach who cares about the program, cares about your development. Obviously every situation is different and unique in its own. But as a general statement, I would say, you know, grind it out, man. You're going to have some adversity. You may be getting to play. Life is going to have some and take the hard coach or whatever it is, hey, go and have them. Most coaches have an open door policy. I'm sure rich rod was like this when you guys were there to go in there and ask him, hey, what can I do better? What do I need to do better? What I need to do to get the playing time that I want. And most coaches will be real with you because, shit, you got options now anyway. So have that man to man conversation, woman to woman conversation, depending on whatever program you're in and, you know, get it done and fight. Fight through some adversity.

[Pat McAfee]

There is an open door policy over there, but he also will open a door for you to get in there a couple times. Oh, yeah, yeah. There's a good convos. I've heard five different stories from last night. They all start at your house. It was a duplex, you know, I was in bed, whatever. Yeah, well, yeah, you were. It was your house. Yeah, I was in. I was there. I was at my house. How come everybody's saying, I don't know.

[Boston Connor]

What you want me to say?

[Pat McAfee]

We were gathering. We had a camaraderie, chemistry building, cookout. Oh, yeah, yesterday. I guess that's where everybody started out you know where you're gonna start each day for the next week? Stairs. 6am I'm sick of it. All right. Okay. I'm gonna get the out of here. How'd it go in there? Terrible. 6am stairs tomorrow. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. That's how everybody react, acted. That's how we started the season.

[Darius J. Butler]

Is it basketball gym stairs or.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, it's the football stadium. O yeah. 6:00am that was the beginning of the season. Cuz this is after training camp.

[Darius J. Butler]

You see we asked. Yeah, we had 6:00am that was our punishment too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. That was no fun. No fun at all.

[Darius J. Butler]

Sandbags too. I didn't have that cuz our state was. We had to run cuz our stadium was off campus. But the old stadium was still on campus. Memorial Field, much shorter stadium. So was it high enough? 60 pound sandbags chase.

[Pat McAfee]

So yeah, yeah, you guys did have that lower.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, cuz no one cared.

[Darius J. Butler]

Well, the old stadium and then we built the new one that was filled the house that Orlowski built. Exactly. And then, you know, got ranked for the first time. Played on ESPN a bunch went to BCS ball.

[Pat McAfee]

Who'd you play on the ESPN all the time?

[Darius J. Butler]

You guys pissed. Pittsburgh, Rucker, Cincy, Louisville. Even Louisville. A lot of bangers didn't have a great time playing wwe. You know, they were ahead of the game. You know that tricky with Pat Whiteman just running like it was.

[Pat McAfee]

Pat White and Steve Slay were unstoppable.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, that was some video game.

[Pat McAfee]

For like a year and a half, two years it was just like unstoppable. And then packets hurt. I have a terrible first quarter, we don't play well. And now it's like Rich moves on to Michigan and then that's. That whole era just got like. Yeah, forgot about like. Don't even talk about it. Ended bad. We don't want to hear about it. And I'm just like God damn. Like I understand that it ended bad, but I think we should talk about Pat White to see Slayton a little bit more. Cuz what Pat was able to do. Yeah, there is just. He won five straight bowl games, including Senior Bowl. Obviously like one of the best leaders of all time. And whenever he was on a football field, it felt like he was going to score every time he got the ball. And if not him, somebody else was. And we were obviously running the fucking, you know, option zone or whatever. You get it. RPO I guess they call it now. But you had Owen schmidt who was 260, 60 pounds, whatever it was. Hank cleaning like 400 pounds. Just like an absolute monster. He's either taking the. Or Steve Slayton's getting the pitch or Pat White's gonna cut it and go. And it was like. Yeah, it was unstoppable.

[Darius J. Butler]

It wasn't because it was something you only saw maybe once, twice a year. And nobody else had a Pat White.

[Pat McAfee]

The Steve Slayton and Darius Reynard we.

[Darius J. Butler]

Had all out there and they went on to get Divine and all these other athletes. So it was, it was.

[Pat McAfee]

But I mean, Pat White murdered a guy against UConn.

[Darius J. Butler]

Crackback murder.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

It was legal. That would he been kicked out of the game. It was bush league. But those biggie days were some murder days. Good days. Shady McCoy and that crew of Pittsburgh, Ray Rice, Brian Leonard and Ruckers, you know, Kenny Britt.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, I think I just got Shady's number. Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Brian Kelly.

[Pat McAfee]

What's Shady? Shady's on facility.

[Darius J. Butler]

The facility?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

What's it called?

[Boston Connor]

The facility?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think he is on the facility. I just got his number. I just got connected with them. I don't think I've. I haven't talked to him in a long time. Yeah, he was great.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean just. Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Donald Brown obviously can't go out Mitch him.

[Pat McAfee]

First round draft pick, 2000 yard back, Indianapolis Colts.

[Darius J. Butler]

First round. First. First round pick, I believe from Yukon.

[Pat McAfee]

Good dude. Good dude. You guys stopped giving him the ball against us his senior year. He had a fumble in the first half and then the second half you guys didn't give him the ball. We won. But like feels like if you would have given him the ball, he had something going. Yeah, yeah. Something.

[Darius J. Butler]

He was our office.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he certainly was. And he was awesome. He ran like perfect form running. He was a good dude. That was like. We played Calvin Johnson and Roman Reigns in the Gator bowl and they didn't throw to Calvin Johnson in the whole second half. It was awesome. It was like we were so happy and thankful they didn't do that. It was just like I, I was, I didn't fully. I wasn't like a. I, I feel like my football IQ good, not great next to everybody else, but at the time it was very limited. I was just like a football fan at the time and boy, you'd see some teams do some stuff and it's like they got this guy we don't like.

[Darius J. Butler]

Why they not see number 21 out there? I had before we played it, my coach was like, if I was Georgia T, I would throw the ball to 2150 times. Just live with the result. Like, the first time I lined up against Calvin, like, I. Like you see him on tape, but when he stood across from you and it was like his hands were scraping the ground while he stood in his stance. And then he was faster than anybody else in the field. The. He did. Like, even on the video game. Like, it was like he was a video game out there in real life, I think was Reggie Ball the quarterback. Was it Taylor Bennett, the lefty?

[Pat McAfee]

I think it was Bennett.

[Darius J. Butler]

Lefty, white dude.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Darius J. Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Okay.

[Darius J. Butler]

Raw was a Super athletic number one righty.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

It was either one of those T'Challa choices.

[Pat McAfee]

Is this a Yukon hit? Is this a Yukon hit right here? Okay, come on, let's relive this. I think this is on Thursday night. Steve Sutton gets the pitch. Owen Schmidt murders somebody. Somebody fills the gap. Crack back. Coming.

[Darius J. Butler]

I remember that.

[Pat McAfee]

That's bad White. And then a horse, obviously. Horse caller.

[Darius J. Butler]

That was me diving in there late.

[Pat McAfee]

Extra 15. Hopefully we got there.

[Darius J. Butler]

Hopefully. I got a half a tackle.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that was our quarterback, though.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, that's, you know, that's bush league.

[Pat McAfee]

Here's a nice slow mo. Look at the Mountain Maniacs getting after great good times back here. There's a. Here it is.

[Darius J. Butler]

How old are we?

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, look at. Look at the. Anytime I look at old highlights, it's like, wow. It's amazing how much technology has changed. Bang. Dead. That's fat white football, baby.

[Darius J. Butler]

How was it?

[Ty Schmidt]

Good effort, Butch.

[Darius J. Butler]

I was, you know, great effort.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Taking down. Taking away the touchdown.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, there's the dive with Owen Schmidt. Yeah. I mean, just classic. Literally what we did there. Pitch cut back. Now we're running either a dive or a pitch.

[Darius J. Butler]

It's not fun.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. Boom. Took out two. If you're a good man, get one. If you're a great, get two. That's about what I did.

[Darius J. Butler]

Dana D. Big east was.

[Pat McAfee]

That was probably Thursday Night Football, too.

[Ty Schmidt]

Those shoulder pads, too.

[Pat McAfee]

That was before the NFL was on Thursday. So our numbers on Thursday night were absurd. And it was a spectacle. And then on the sideline was Rich Rodriguez. Give me the.

[Darius J. Butler]

We have some coaches, too. Rich Roll, I think Wanstead.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Was it a pit? And Brian Kelly.

[Pat McAfee]

Cincinnati Petrino.

[Darius J. Butler]

Petrino or Louisville.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah, it was either one said or the. What was his name?

[Pat McAfee]

Juan. That was there.

[Evan Fox]

He went to Stanford after. Can't remember them.

[Pat McAfee]

Big east was awesome.

[Darius J. Butler]

Shaw.

[Boston Connor]

Howlin.

[Evan Fox]

No, that's basketball.

[Boston Connor]

Ben Howlin.

[Pat McAfee]

Jamie Dixon.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Also basketball. Big east was great.

[Darius J. Butler]

It was good days.

[Pat McAfee]

It was an honor to be a.

[Ty Schmidt]

Part of it with Go Run Joe. Gentlemen.

[Darius J. Butler]

Was an honor.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's a good run.

[Pat McAfee]

Louisville was really good at that time. Yeah. Brian Braum, Harry Douglas, Mike Bush.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, he was a tank.

[Pat McAfee]

They there was a Bush chant. The one game we played where he came out, he just broke his leg. So he was on crutches and it was. I think it was a Thursday night game. We only. We always played on Thursday like before. It was always like a Thursday night game. He came out that entire place was chan for had to feel so cool. He was so big. Yeah, he was so. And who was the. We just talked about it. D tackle the kid who was super young. Nigerian name. Yeah, I think he was young.

[Darius J. Butler]

Probably like 17 when he first hit that scene.

[Pat McAfee]

He was just picking dudes.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, 16, 17. I think he went to the league like 19, 20 or something crazy like that. Who else was there? Tight end, Barnes Barnage, Gary Barnard. Kelsey was in same with Jason.

[Ty Schmidt]

Kelsey was Harry Douglas you were going to say?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think I saw him run by me one time on our return.

[Boston Connor]

He spit in your face, didn't he?

[Darius J. Butler]

But yeah, he's spitting teammates in my. He kicked. He hit me in the nuts.

[Pat McAfee]

A dog.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

He's a bit of a dog.

[Ty Schmidt]

Check.

[Pat McAfee]

You got some.

[Darius J. Butler]

Made him in. Yes, made him in.

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[Pat McAfee]

Great work yesterday by Ian Raport. Appreciate you doing that. Rap sheet. He took a victory lap on the insiders. I don't know if you saw that, talked about how much he crushed it. And I agree. It was an honor to chitchat with him from Scotland. Obviously last night's Monday night raw over in Glasgow was insane. Did you see John Cena?

[Boston Connor]

Crazy.

[Ty Schmidt]

What's he doing?

[Pat McAfee]

He's calling. He said, you're horrible people. I know you say you're horrible people.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it's over for John.

[Pat McAfee]

Then he talks about that kid like just buried him yet again. And he said, you guys cheered for me burying that kid. You're terrible people. You shot profanities. Your childish. You're terrible people. He's just letting these people know. And I saw some kids in the crowd over there in Glasgow who. What do we do?

[Boston Connor]

And I said, john.

[Pat McAfee]

And John Cena said, what did you do? Not enough. And that was. That was an uncomfortable situation out there. I'm going to say D. BU 9 year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. I was uncomfortable listening to John Cena and talk to the crowd. Like it.

[Darius J. Butler]

I was too. And I was sitting about two seats down right over in the Thunderdome and it think tank from Debone and he was shouting profanity at John Cena.

[Pat McAfee]

Really? He was going along with the chair. Oh yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh yeah. So everything that Cena was saying, he was saying it right to him. So it was good to see exactly who he was talking to. And I'mma stand on what I said last week. They deserve it. Hell, all of everybody that Johnson talked about. Damn right. In every universe. In every universe Debone's in, he deserves.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, I don't, I don't love that about Debo and I don't think Debo loves it either. But those there's supportive. Debone's been a supporter of John Cena since the beginning. Yeah, since the very beginning. We're talking wearing the headband on. On the head.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And wearing wristband on his bicep.

[Darius J. Butler]

And you can't see me joke wasn't funny.

[Pat McAfee]

It was though.

[Darius J. Butler]

Never been funny.

[Boston Connor]

It was funny.

[Pat McAfee]

Look. That is Debone Right. There he is, that kid. He was once that kid. That's how long long John Cena, you know, has. Has been doing it. And Debo was heartbroken. And I saw a little boy over here. Am I right, Last night, who very obviously was being told to boo Cena.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, no.

[Pat McAfee]

But he didn't want to.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah, he's a sweet boy.

[Pat McAfee]

He didn't want to do it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Tearing him apart.

[Pat McAfee]

He was. He was tearing him apart. Cena. Yeah, legit. It was bad.

[Evan Fox]

Who was telling the poo?

[Pat McAfee]

You can tell people around him. People around were like, we don't like.

[Evan Fox]

That's how Scotland rolls.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, I don't think it's just Scotland. I think it's WWE Universe right now. I think there's some people that when that music gets, you know, it all goes natural. Reaction is, John Cen's here. And then people have to be reminded.

[Boston Connor]

We don't like this guy anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't like us.

[Ty Schmidt]

He sold out.

[Pat McAfee]

He said some terrible things. He has sold out.

[Ty Schmidt]

He sold out. He sold out to big corporate fat cats. He sold out to China. He sold out to many things. And it feels like now, John, the clock's ticking, and I'm glad his time is up.

[Pat McAfee]

Now with that being said, D Bone has purchased the newest shirt, fresh off of last night's promo. John Cena said he's going to win the title, then he's going to retire. Forex. Yeah, obviously, 4x is alarming.

[Dick Vitale]

Holy.

[Pat McAfee]

Come on, Bone. Some vegetables. I walked out there, he was eating fortune cookies. He wasn't even taking the paper out of it. He was just housing fortune cookies. And it. He had four to five of them, which means he ordered enough for the Chinese food company to think that this was a four to five person meal. Because they try to give as many fortune cookies to as many people they think are going to be eating. So we need to watch his debone. I saw him eat four. He might have been given six. How many orders did this guy. I want a number two. I want a 10. I want a 38. And then they were like, well, there's got to be a hundred people. And then he's just eating them. Deboned. Good Lord.

[Boston Connor]

Tell me he got Chinese again today.

[Pat McAfee]

Did he do it yesterday?

[Boston Connor]

He got Chinese yesterday as well.

[Ty Schmidt]

After a. I wasn't here. Sturdy breakfast.

[Pat McAfee]

T Bone, enough.

[Darius J. Butler]

Sturdy breakfast.

[Pat McAfee]

You're going to die. Okay? Take care of yourself. I know you're. Huh.

[Boston Connor]

They shrink, okay? The shirts shrink.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh.

[Ty Schmidt]

So, I mean, we know we can't say you know what?

[Boston Connor]

You might be on to something there.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, good call, D. All right. All right. We're happy to see you're not 4x on your way to 5 is what he said.

[Boston Connor]

It also doesn't help. You got to wash it 100 times when you're spilling mustard all over it and all that kind of stuff every single time you wear it. So, you know, most people are washing that thing, what, two, three times a month. Debone's got to wash it, you know?

[Pat McAfee]

Is this first place of work? Feels like we.

[Boston Connor]

I believe he worked for the Kane County Cougars, which was, you know, a ball team. So he was going.

[Pat McAfee]

But was he doing it from home? I think he was doing a lot of like, remote stuff.

[Boston Connor]

Freelance, I assume he said, like, hey, if I can't come in and get at least like 10 hot dogs from the concession stand every single day, I'm not working for you guys.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's part. Part of the contract. Yeah, yeah, and he's got to wash it too, cuz. Boy, does he smell bad right now. He's sweating like a grease pig, man. Yeah, it's. It's.

[Pat McAfee]

Does he know that, D? Multiple times.

[Darius J. Butler]

I was watching last week when he came and stood there. That. That was rude.

[Pat McAfee]

What? What Connor was saying.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, walk my shoes.

[Ty Schmidt]

Butts. Okay? You be sitting over here. You'd be saying pu, just like me.

[Pat McAfee]

No, you're so.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, no, that wouldn't even do it justice.

[Pat McAfee]

De Bone, take care of yourself, okay? We love you, Debone.

[Ty Schmidt]

Graveyards yawn when he's rolling, okay? That's when you know. That's when you know. Boy, oh boy, we got. We got a shite smelling fatso on our heads.

[Pat McAfee]

That's not true, Debone. That is not true. We don't agree with that. But I will say debate. Bone, you're really good at what you do. You got great energy in here. We need you to live. Yeah, okay. You're way too young. Yeah, we love you for these things to be being said about you. Okay? You get to 30, you know, you get a kid, you get married, then.

[Boston Connor]

You let yourself go.

[Pat McAfee]

Those things happen.

[Ty Schmidt]

Fine.

[Pat McAfee]

Right now can't be happening. Debo.

[Evan Fox]

His national champion jersey is hanging in the locker room. Bone or Sorry, D Buds gasped yesterday. He said that's how. That's how the size you used to be.

[Pat McAfee]

No, those are tight jerseys. Listen, we don't need to be make it. This guy is a big guy right now. He's living. He's retired athlete, national champ.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, you're right. Say football player.

[Pat McAfee]

I have not seen. Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

You haven't seen.

[Pat McAfee]

How long's it been hanging there? Maybe I've seen it. I always thought it was a replica. That's his actual.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I believe that's his actual. And I know he's retired, but, you know, you hope for like a fanica retirement, not a. I don't want to bury the person that I was about to.

[Pat McAfee]

Smart. That's very nice of you to do that. And let's continue to lift up. Debone. Debone.

[Evan Fox]

Well, eight or ten of us could lift him up.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Maybe as a team.

[Darius J. Butler]

USO was back. That was Jimmy and J.

[Pat McAfee]

That was great to see. That was really great to see. It was.

[Darius J. Butler]

It was.

[Pat McAfee]

Connor just showed me who he was going to refer to. I. It was good to see Jimmy and Jay. So I'm happy you didn't do that. I.

[Ty Schmidt]

Me too.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Very fan.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm a fan.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody ever talks about those moments. No.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, they don't.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Everybody always talks about when we. Maybe too much. How about when. Whenever we choose not to. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Restraint.

[Pat McAfee]

That's very nice of us. Very kind of us. We're adults. So are you. Jimmy and Jay, last night was great to see.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

How about motivational speech from Big Jim as well? He slipped right in front of me. Go. What was he doing? Gunther was reeling. Then he's going to spear. He slips right in front of me. It's like. What are you. Jay, just spear the guy. Yeah. What do we. You know? And Gunther obviously attacked from a blind side, which we don't like. You eat the whole place. Obviously. Scarlet was yeeting 10,900 plus eating alongside of them. And I'm very thankful we didn't do last week's 10 minute. Yeet. They did remember that we were watching here from the Thunderdome and the entire Netflix commercial break, which is also international. They're watching through the entire time. Just yeeting for 10 minutes straight. I'm happy that didn't happen. I wouldn't have made it. Yeah. Especially in my kilt, obviously. But yeah. Yeet. Okay. And Grayson Waller, Aussie lad. Calls himself an Aussie. I on him and Austin are they. It feels like they could. They have the.

[Evan Fox]

They're strapping young lads.

[Pat McAfee]

They have the. They have everything you just. Right here. It's all right here. When are they going to. When are they going to flip the switch? You know, when are they going to become professional odds?

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

When are they going to take to the next level? We all wait, but we know the USO's are going to be in hall of Fame, and it was great to watch them work in Scotland. One half of the Hammer Cowboys. AP Tone is here. Cam. Cam Ward. Tone did a little chat yet again, this time with Rich Eisen, about Aaron Rodgers potentially coming to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Remember, there was a quote, Cam Hayward said, you want to be a Steeler, you don't. And then obviously that was aggregated and taken out. And Cam was like, I'm just, like, I'm literally just saying that. He clarified a little bit with Rich Eisen. Here it is. You know, it's funny. Everybody gave me crap. They said I called it, called him out. I don't think I really called him out. I just said I was go. I was not gonna go on a Darkness retreat to recruit him.

[Darius J. Butler]

But if wants to be a Steeler.

[Pat McAfee]

He can be a Steeler.

[Dick Vitale]

Like, right?

[Pat McAfee]

It doesn't. That's. That's the pitch.

[Darius J. Butler]

I just want to win games, play good football.

[Pat McAfee]

In all seriousness, and I will give you the floor on this guy signs, you got a problem. Anybody who signs, I welcome to the team.

[Darius J. Butler]

You know, I don't.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't have an ego and think.

[Darius J. Butler]

Like, we can't win with a guy. I get excited for our team. You know, you bring a guy on like that, he's got a good knowledge of the game, and I think you can only help.

[Pat McAfee]

You're 15, man. You want to talk about how things have changed for the Steelers? Trading a draft choice, A for B, a wide receiver, and C, giving him the contract that they gave DK Metcalf. If I told you that over the first few years of the Steelers, you'd say, what team is this again? Right.

[Darius J. Butler]

You know, I think we're in a state of, you know, urgency. We have a lot of guys that, like myself, that are in the latter.

[Pat McAfee]

Stages of their career, and we all want to win.

[Darius J. Butler]

It's not just enough to win a playoff game, which we haven't won in a couple years, and there's a bad taste in our mouth because of that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And. And that's why you're talking about an urgency with a bunch of, you know, OGs that. That are. Might. Might be looking at the clock on the wall a little bit here, to be honest. That's why Rogers is kind of a fit there, if you think about it. Right? I mean, like, I don't know how much time he. He considers in his head that he does have left, but it would be similar to what you might be thinking. Cam, you know and, and, and others on the team. That's kind of why it sounds like it's a fit. So with all that being said, shout out to Rich Eisen, by the way. Him dropping oh geez casually. Yeah, pretty sweet Rich and you know, the editor there making Cam's head the entire screen. I understand different sizes especially for TikTok or a real Cam Hayward does have a gigantic head. It's actually a part of the reason why he's so damn good. It's in his family. His dad's name was Ironhead. So him being on a squad 15 years in, certified hall of Famer. I think everybody says Yin's are a legend. Him talking about the state of urgency I saw as soon as he said that to Rich, you nodded your head as a yes. And also him saying, I wasn't calling out Aaron Rogers. I'm just saying like hey, you either want to be here or you don't. Which I think is what Aaron's potentially trying to figure out right now. I've not talked to Aaron. How'd you take away from what Cam just said and how do you feel about where the state the Steelers is right now?

[Evan Fox]

I couldn't agree more with, with what Rich and Cam were, were both saying. And yeah, I mean Cam's been there for 15 years. TJ's been there for a long time. Mink has been there for a long time. Last year they were the highest paid defense in the NFL. And not only the team are they getting antsy. This, the fan base is getting super antsy. It's at a loud. Yeah, loud. It's at a boiling point to be honest. If it keeps continuing like this. But no, I agree with everything they said and Cam, his original comments I had no problem with, you know, because I think the longer that it goes on, I worry that Aaron is not going to be a stealer and I do want him to be a stealer. You know they had the meeting, the six hour meeting on Friday which everyone said went well. Rap said everything went well. Your sources said everything went well. Not sure what the holdup is at this point let you know.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, everybody assumed my source was Aaron.

[Evan Fox]

I don't know. I just. You just said source says so I.

[Pat McAfee]

Didn'T know because you know we people with Pittsburgh.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Evan Fox]

I reached out everyone but a lot.

[Pat McAfee]

Of people said it went positive.

[Evan Fox]

Everyone said that he was great in the building. Who met him. They said he was great. So I, yeah, let's, let's get a name on a, on a dotted line and let's. Let's play some football.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And oh yeah. What I do wonder, like you said, the longer it goes, the, the less likely you feel like he's going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler. Especially after a six hour visit. It's like I do wonder what all he's contemplating. The, the, the Aaron Rodgers brain though does operate in that fashion. Especially first time ever being a free agent. I think.

[Evan Fox]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

First time ever in his life he's been a free agent also certified career like Mount Rushmore legacy built football. Yeah. Rich just became philanthropist of the year. That's right. And Cali.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, for giving back to everything. Yeah. Like I think everything he's accomplished would already say like, hey, you've done good, you know, and you can just literally ride into the sunset and if that sunset is you actually hopping on a ship and trying to get to the sun or to the moon, whatever, either. Or you could go do all of those things. I do wonder what in. Obviously I, he. He and I have not chatted throughout this entire thing. I assume he's talked to AJ Honestly, I assume that there has been some sort of chatter with aj. Has AJ brought it up? Probably not. I mean that is classic A.J. hawk football. But what do you think? He's all going through his mind and have. The more you've thought about him with the Steelers, where do you kind of sit at now? Nine year NFL.

[Darius J. Butler]

The more I think about it, the more I see it happening. Honestly, you don't want to. Especially if you're still a Steeler fan. You don't want it lingering. But the more I see it happening and if not going into the draft, once the draft hits, I feel like that's where I'll kind of give up hope and start looking at hey, Jackson Dart or Quinn maybe depending on how his program.

[Pat McAfee]

I do wonder if you start kind.

[Darius J. Butler]

Of mind shifting there. But you talk about all the things and the accolades like if those guys, if they come back, you know, it's always more. You know, they always want more. So I'm sure Aaron Rodgers want to go more. You go into a place that is built. They have pieces where they can win right now. And that is a place that is a program where getting to the playoffs, winning a division, those things aren't good enough. You want to compete and win for a title and it's been a long time since they've done that. So up there I saw one of the bullet points said money was not discussed during the six hours it was already agreed to. Allegedly so the money's already, there's already been like. So the money's not an issue.

[Pat McAfee]

The money's not an issue.

[Darius J. Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Allegedly money has already been like yep, that'll be enough. We got it. And they say yeah we'll give it to so like now granted getting down into the nitty gritty, when's everything guaranteed and what do the bonuses look like? That's a whole nother conversation. But allegedly there has already been contract in parameters that both sides got it have said that's good. Back to what you said though. That was a very good point. About once a draft then we'll kind of pay attention. I do wonder if there has been a draft deadline by both sides. Yeah, like I do wonder if the Steelers are like if you could give us a heads up before you know, the draft that'd be great because we'd obviously be looking at who our future is going to be and what we're going to. We already got Mason Rudolph. We'd be looking at the draft or if there's a date before the draft where they're like we, if we don't know by this point we'd like to dive into more draft kind of. I like I just wonder what if there is a deadline because deadlines are the things that obviously draw decisions from people in the entirety of it all.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's why I wonder what the years are because let's say instead of just a one year he does a two year and you would kind of assume almost already like hey we're going to draft a qb. Like we want you to be the QB this year, maybe next year. But no matter what, this isn't going to be a four year deal. Like they need a quarterback and maybe, you know, I, I don't know what the 2026 draft class looks like. Yeah. So maybe they're, they're already looking there as well. But you would think if you know for instance a Will Howard, which we haven't really brought up since the combine or another guy that might be in that second or third round that's available there like Quinn Ewers, that they might be thinking hey we're going to take this guy either way. But if it's a two year deal, like would that shock you would more than one year.

[Pat McAfee]

I think they would definitely put multiple years strictly for the south thing, you know and who knows how many voided years on back like who knows what the game is that Mr. Omar Khan the con artist does. The general manager and Aaron Rodgers representatives in this entire Thing put the deal together but Giants allegedly still into and from what we've heard, he hasn't traveled to New York. Right.

[Ty Schmidt]

Jamis, I feel like that doesn't change it at all. That's interesting to me with well, Ian.

[Pat McAfee]

Rapport said that contract says he's backup contract or something like that. That's what he said. I wonder if that's the Mason Rudolph thing as well. Right. Everybody just kind of assumes for m. Yeah.

[Evan Fox]

Mason got similar. Similar money as well. But no, I, I don't. I don't think whether Aaron comes or not, I don't think it should change whether they take a quarterback or not. Like if. Because I mean like we said, Aaron's 40, 41. Whatever it is, he's not going to be there a long time. If you want to take a quarterback this year where you're picking at I don't think they should probably start this year anyway. So I don't think it should affect or if you want to go and you know, maybe because they got a bunch of comp picks coming after, you know, Dan Moore goes for how $50 million. Justin Fields goes for $30 million. They got comp picks coming next year and the draft is in Pittsburgh. So if you want to, you know, bungle to a couple threes and go up to number one or number two and get. Get the quarterback like Pittsburgh going far in your city.

[Pat McAfee]

Could you imagine the Yinzers There has been a trade. The Pittsburgh Steelers have traded for the number one overall pick. That place would go upside down no matter who got drafted, no matter whether.

[Evan Fox]

Arch stays or not because he's only. He'll be a starter for one year. No, Nico could come out. Drew Aller could progress again. You know, there's a lot of quarterbacks coming out next year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So maybe Mason and Aaron this year and then what happens next year we shall see and figure out. But I'm excited to to figure out when he's going to make the decision, you know and what is the deciding factor. Like what is the whole. Like what is the.

[Ty Schmidt]

The moment.

[Pat McAfee]

What not only the moment but right now what is the.

[Evan Fox]

I thought it was the Vikings for a while.

[Pat McAfee]

I think we all did like. Because I think he wanted potentially like a clearer picture of who. Yes. What is all an option right now.

[Ty Schmidt]

Still kind of do.

[Darius J. Butler]

What.

[Ty Schmidt]

What's that with the Vikings?

[Darius J. Butler]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

You think there's still an option?

[Ty Schmidt]

I. I still kind of do.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

A little bit.

[Pat McAfee]

Really didn't tell Pelro come out and.

[Ty Schmidt]

Say no, he's not Oh, I forget what the report.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, the report was at the Vikings. They haven't said that, but they're.

[Pat McAfee]

They're going with J.J. mcCarthy is what Tom Pelaro reports.

[Darius J. Butler]

Correct. And then J.J. said to K. They told him that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they have not told him.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, they have not told him, but. And he said, I think he said he liked that as well. You know, been a competitor, going there, earn it, which I respect.

[Pat McAfee]

Me too. So who knows? We will certainly ask him if we get the opportunity to. And hopefully the Pittsburgh Steelers or the New York Giants or the Minnesota Vikings.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm just saying, I mean, I'm. I'm reading now what's on that graphic because, you know, during this time, it's so much floating around, but I'm not seeing anything like, they're definitely out on Aaron Rodgers.

[Pat McAfee]

But you heard from JJ that he's not been told he's the guy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. And then I see not pursuing Aaron Rodgers at this time. That kind of reeks of like. Well, at right now we don't like Aaron, but tomorrow we might. But again, I, you know, if Pelosro said it.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Hey, listen, I appreciate the fact that you're like, hold. Let's just, let's not rule out anything at this exact time, especially as, you know, continue to do research, continue to figure things out, continue to talk to each other, continue to learn about each other, which I think was a big part of that trip to Pittsburgh, which is like, let's learn about how this would potentially go. Because maybe you didn't do that last time, you know, with the, with the Jets. Remember, they flew out. They. Him.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, I don't think that he did.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I don't think he went over.

[Boston Connor]

He got the, he got the heroes welcome when he first showed up, but that was like, after it was a done deal. Like, hey, you're going to be the jets quarterback.

[Pat McAfee]

He's already said that he loves the city of Pittsburgh. He respects the city of Pittsburgh. I think he just wanted to know what the building was probably like. And I assume they wanted to know what this dude was like in person as well.

[Evan Fox]

Well, and you talked about it yesterday, I believe you mentioned it yesterday, that Steelers brass Omar Mike Tomlin, they did not go to Michigan's pro day. And there's a lot of guys at that point where Kenneth Grant or Will Johnson who could. Who are all definitely on their board. So I think it was big that they did not go to their pro day to meet with Aaron.

[Pat McAfee]

I wonder if anybody in Pittsburgh has told Aaron Rodgers, that Kenny Wood's back. Oh, have you heard? Have you heard? Well, have you heard? Have you heard the news? Kenny Wood is all the way back. They were up for, weren't they? Guess what they sold. And guess who bought it.

[Evan Fox]

Record time.

[Pat McAfee]

A fucking amusement park family. Okay.

[Boston Connor]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

So they're coming in and they're doing it. And Kennywood has so much opportunity to be the greatest amusement park on earth yet again. And I say that because if you do recall in the back in the past, Kenny was right there at the top. Roller coaster enthusiast said Kennywood at 1, maybe 1A behind Disney World now very close that. What was the publication Roller Coaster Enthusiast number one Roller Coaster Enthusiasm. Never heard of it.

[Darius J. Butler]

I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

Not much of a roller coaster guy then, are you? Yeah. How about coaster heads? I don't know if you've heard about that.

[Evan Fox]

Does Florida even have roller coasters?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, they got the biggest in the world.

[Darius J. Butler]

Orlando.

[Pat McAfee]

Pretty good. I was there, I was there a couple weeks ago. They didn't have the potato patch which was certainly something which Kennywood does have. So maybe score one for the black and yellow here.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

But basically everything else, Disney World did seemingly have more of what Kennywood had. You know, I didn't expect that.

[Evan Fox]

More the bad stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

Sure. You know, I, I, I didn't go to Kennywood, all right. I didn't go to Disney World. Disney World only went to Kennywood, you.

[Evan Fox]

Know, and Disney World, that's they're in.

[Pat McAfee]

Their own category universe. Yeah, well the. Yeah, right. That's a universe.

[Evan Fox]

Kenny would be with Six Flags and some other bullshit.

[Ty Schmidt]

We can gimmick this Kennywood thing a sword for as long as we want. None of you guys have been in Kennywood in 10 plus years. And also yeah, Kennywood might be better now because they sold because whatever was running, whether it's the Kenny family or the Wood family, either family that was running it. Now that they've given up the reigns, it makes more sense. It'll be decent.

[Pat McAfee]

Just please, please, please, before we go any further, further, the Attractions Group podcast has a message about Kennywood. Please. Ricky Spacuza, Kennywood's general manager. I know you're all excited to see.

[Ty Schmidt]

Scroll down a little return and I'm.

[Evan Fox]

Excited for you to tackle this record setting coaster.

[Pat McAfee]

In addition to what work you might have seen during Phantom Fall Fest and.

[Evan Fox]

Holiday Lights last year, we've had columns delivered this off season.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

Going up all around me.

[Evan Fox]

These new colors columns will help ensure that the steel Curtain is around and.

[Pat McAfee]

Ready riders for many years to come say still factory interaction on this tweet. Our maintenance team is going to add the two trains back to the track.

[Evan Fox]

And test runs will begin.

[Pat McAfee]

They'll move that.

[Evan Fox]

Might even see work and testing of the coaster during your first visits this spring. Over the past few months, I've seen.

[Pat McAfee]

This project come to life. And the wait is almost over. So get ready. Ready to go upside down.

[Evan Fox]

Nine times on Pennsylvania.

[Darius J. Butler]

Nine times.

[Evan Fox]

Can't wait to announce an opening date soon.

[Pat McAfee]

Stay tuned. Thank you, Mr. Spicaza. They got a good paisan out there running that thing. You see that? Nine whoopty woos.

[Evan Fox]

You know what day is?

[Pat McAfee]

Huh?

[Evan Fox]

You know what opening day is?

[Pat McAfee]

When is it?

[Evan Fox]

April 12th. So if you want to stick around a couple days, I'll see you there.

[Pat McAfee]

Wait a minute. Maybe we can make a few phone calls, see if we can get in there a little couple days earlier. Holy. You want to talk, we'll pay.

[Darius J. Butler]

Wait, you're going to test out?

[Ty Schmidt]

You guys are gonna.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, I'll get on.

[Darius J. Butler]

You're gonna test them out?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

Have fun. Now sign the forms.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you talking about? Wait till I get Fam's Revenge. Steel Curtain, you name it. I'll be exterminator. Exterminators inside. Oh, buddy. Come on, brother. Kennywood's all the way back. You heard Mr. Ricky there. Mr. Ricky was talking about it. Maybe Connor can go to Kitty Land and ride the teacups. Oh, and maybe the swings.

[Ty Schmidt]

I like the swings. And the teacups. I'm fine with that.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I'll say this. Best swings in the country. Because the music selection during the swings is great.

[Ty Schmidt]

Blocking y'all.

[Boston Connor]

Renegade non stop.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, over and over again. Good vibe, Nelly.

[Pat McAfee]

And also, you get a chance to see a steel mill. You see that in the background as a reminder of all the hard work that has been done to make sure that this place is what it is. They sell it, reinvest in it. Kennywood's back. Just know know that if you get a chance to stop by, you should definitely go and support it and go to the. Go to potato Patch, get some fries and cheese. Okay. And then walk out of there and say, this is the best fries I've ever had in my life. And that's all you need. Maybe Noah's Ark stop by.

[Darius J. Butler]

I'm glad. I'm glad they're still bringing it because I was sure that family bought it. I'm just gonna tear that.

[Boston Connor]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Darius J. Butler]

They're not still watch Something. I mean, I thought they're super. Bring it.

[Ty Schmidt]

They're not.

[Pat McAfee]

So go karts. There are bumper carts there and you can go get after it. And they all go very fast on.

[Ty Schmidt]

The up and up.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't like the swing one, but they got one of the swing ones.

[Boston Connor]

If I do remember correctly, the. The same family who owns Adventureland in Des Moines, Iowa, which might be the best amusement park in the country. I believe they did buy Kennywood, so it makes sense.

[Pat McAfee]

Coaster heads never ranked.

[Boston Connor]

He's back on the up and up. That's good to know.

[Pat McAfee]

What's your place called in Des Moines?

[Boston Connor]

Adventureland.

[Evan Fox]

That's a fake name.

[Pat McAfee]

It's not. That doesn't sound real.

[Boston Connor]

It's not. Kenny Wood's a fake name. I mean, that's Kenny's Woods.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. It's not even.

[Boston Connor]

The family doesn't even know it anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

Well. Well, certainly it's. Kennywood is grown and. Dude, not just a family thing.

[Evan Fox]

Wasn't the movie Adventureland filmed where Kennywood.

[Ty Schmidt]

Because Adventureland was about a scary zombie apocalypse, and that is exactly what they filmed in that dump. Okay, I'm not gonna go that far.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom.

[Evan Fox]

Michael. Sarah wouldn't do that.

[Boston Connor]

He wasn't.

[Pat McAfee]

That was disgusting. Kenny Wood is not a dump. Yeah, yeah, it is in Adventureland.

[Boston Connor]

Jesse Eisenberg.

[Evan Fox]

Same guy.

[Pat McAfee]

No, that's. That's. Yeah, that's a big deal.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm cold anyways.

[Pat McAfee]

I can't wait to take us to Kennywoods.

[Darius J. Butler]

How many rides did he show?

[Pat McAfee]

All of them.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, there's only two.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, okay.

[Pat McAfee]

No, there's two headliners, brother. Come on.

[Darius J. Butler]

I just don't remember showing like.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I can't wait to.

[Evan Fox]

No, because Steel Curtain was.

[Boston Connor]

The detail on the. Steel Curtain's pretty sweet. The football laces on a.

[Pat McAfee]

See that?

[Boston Connor]

That's neat. I do like that.

[Pat McAfee]

I do like that.

[Boston Connor]

I'm guessing that was Pakuzer has that.

[Pat McAfee]

Can we run that name? Can we run that video once again, please? Start from the beginning where he says his name. They don't even put a graphic up his name. That worries me. But that's the. The talking group talking. What's the name of the podcast?

[Ty Schmidt]

Talking co. You're not even that locked in group coaster.

[Evan Fox]

We're getting word here that exterminator's final run is 2025. And then they're going to knock. Knock it down and build a bigger one, so.

[Anthony Dijiulio]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that move. I like that move.

[Ty Schmidt]

These coasters are going to be great in 10 years, huh?

[Pat McAfee]

No overnight. This is Pittsburgh. What do you think this is, bud? Oh, we need some steel to build it. Okay, we'll go down by the river.

[Ty Schmidt]

Let's see.

[Boston Connor]

Also, whatever Ty was trying to sell the.

[Pat McAfee]

The other company already owned that park. They sold it to. Yeah. Cuz they hated your place.

[Boston Connor]

N. It's way better than Kennywood.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys would know if you've seen.

[Boston Connor]

It, if you've been there.

[Pat McAfee]

Do we have this guy's podcast again or. He's looking. Oh, we lost day.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's gone.

[Pat McAfee]

I think we're gonna see that. That. That pisses me off. I will say, I'll open my phone and my natural reaction is just to hit an update and I'll see a tweet. I'm like, oh, and it's gone forever. Never gonna find it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Same on ig.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Watching a video and maybe I'll, like, scroll out of it by accident and I'll try and find it again. It's gone.

[Pat McAfee]

Gone forever. You got no shot. It's gone. I am happy that Instagram seemingly has stopped putting things. Things at the top of the page that drop you into live things.

[Boston Connor]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you remember when they were doing that?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Whenever a live would pop up and it was the entire top of the screen where you would be resetting it, and then all of a sudden, there's one fucking live viewer in this. And who is it? Me. And by the way, the person that's streaming knows that you're here. Stick around. Give me the fuck out. I'm so sorry. Good to see you. All right. There was like four or five of those. I'm like, hey, Zuck, can we knock it off? I get. We want people to go in there, but, like, that is a very pivotal part of the screen here, you know? And you're dropping me into this whole thing. Feels like social media is really figuring it all out, isn't it? Oh, yeah. Yeah, it is. Group text was tough.

[Ty Schmidt]

I mute most of them.

[Pat McAfee]

I think they were hoping one guy did. Yeah, no doubt he was in there. You do got to watch, you know, people getting new phone numbers, sending the old phone numbers. That scares me. Like, I have to check. Is this like, new insert name new, or is it insert name newest? Yeah, or insert name new new newest. You know, always have to check that. Accidentally putting somebody into a group text. Not good. The worst not good. Because now everybody's got their number exposed. If you're gonna send war plans, I don't know if that's the way to do it.

[Ty Schmidt]

No chance Geez, gotta be an email.

[Evan Fox]

Let's put it in a Dropbox.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Or make one big long video that's impossible to text.

[Evan Fox]

Bingo.

[Ty Schmidt]

Or have a path.

[Pat McAfee]

Why is that happening?

[Boston Connor]

I have no idea.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's terrible. It's gotten so much worse back in the day. I could send you three, four, five, six minute video, no problem. Yeah, you can't even do two minute video. Can't do it.

[Ty Schmidt]

They want people to airdrop. They're pushing airdrop.

[Pat McAfee]

I know, but airdrops don't always possible. Yeah, it's not always feasible.

[Ty Schmidt]

I know.

[Pat McAfee]

It's icloud link. That's what they're pushing. They're pushing icloud link and then people's iclouds get full. So you can't send that video. Then what? Guess what? You got to do 3.99 for more iCloud.

[Ty Schmidt]

Got to buy more.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I looked at the number of photos and videos that I have the other day on the flight. Cuz I like put. I started putting things into albums. Sure, sure.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was a cool thing, making playlists. Yeah, it's a cool thing. I'm putting photos in albums, you know, so I. I feel like they're forcing us to do that with the way it all just sit there. Yeah. The number of photos and images that I have on there is absurd. A lot. It is a very, very, very, very, very, very. I assume you pay a lot for icloud every month.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm kind of curious.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a huge number. I don't even know if like I want to say it with how big it is.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, wow. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Huge number. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

20, 27,300 items.

[Pat McAfee]

You're at 27,000.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. That's pretty good numbers. That's pretty good numbers.

[Ty Schmidt]

100,000 in there.

[Pat McAfee]

97,000.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, there you go.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm like, what? And then voice memos. Do you remember when I would send you an open voice memo open every single day for the podcast for the show?

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, those are in there.

[Pat McAfee]

I was scrolling through my voice memos, you know, because there's like, I have like, you know, like some things, like some comedy story concepts that I thought of that I put in my voice memo just over the years that I've created, thought of and had and curated or whatever. So I'm scrolling back through my voice memos. Obviously none of them have a name, they just have numbers. And I'm like, well, this one's two and a half minutes long. Let's see what this is. And it's hello beautiful people. The next one. Same exact same. Exact same, exact. I'm like how many of these things? And I go through the day, it was like 100 something straight of me just sending these voice memos that are still just sitting on my phone. They have to be eating up something somewhere. I have no idea. They exist.

[Ty Schmidt]

Definitely space.

[Pat McAfee]

And then all the, I mean missed text messages. 38 of them. Never going to be able to find them. Where are they?

[Darius J. Butler]

No chance.

[Pat McAfee]

How come I can't just get rid of those? Tim, they're in the cloud.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, they're. They're in the cloud somewhere. That's why I've reset my icloud. I switched my iClouds in 2020, I believe.

[Pat McAfee]

How good of a play is that?

[Ty Schmidt]

It was great but I mean it's already. You already build it back up. But if you haven't ever. If you've never done that then. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

My texts are only for one year though.

[Darius J. Butler]

Where your pre 2020on my.

[Ty Schmidt]

My old laptop as a backup.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I was going to say if you're going to do that back it all up cuz it will erase everything.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah but so like I had a.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah, but what do you need? Pre2020.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's what I'm saying. All the numbers, memories.

[Pat McAfee]

Memories, man.

[Evan Fox]

I didn't have family, I didn't have memories back then.

[Ty Schmidt]

But like all the numbers that you have, you know, like think about all the numbers you just accrue over time that you just don't use anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So I have like the one year for the text. I scroll to the way back to the beginning. I went where these 38 are. Yeah, I literally went all the way this how much time I've had on planes. Obviously whenever you're doing this because I'm sick of looking at this number, I'm like where the is it? I don't know where they are.

[Ty Schmidt]

You got to start deleting.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Ty Schmidt]

Just.

[Boston Connor]

No, there should be an update where it's just like mark all is red.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Cuz like you can do with emails.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And on emails at least you can hit that lower left button to show unread. Right. And then like even if you can't find it, they'll pop up some that second email that down that you definitely saw. But they marked his unread and then you can easily get rid of it. It's like this text 1. I don't know how you beat the game. I don't know how you beat it. It used to Be bigger. And then I responded to a bunch of people like 6 months later I'm like, hey, sorry I missed this. I'm so sorry. Like a birthday response. Cuz I'm trying to get rid of the number and I don't want to be an. And then now there's just 38. I don't know if it's a new.

[Boston Connor]

Update, but you can definitely click read all.

[Pat McAfee]

I just, I just did it. Where? So in the upper left right next.

[Boston Connor]

To the text button there's those three dots.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I don't have.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, it's update then upper left.

[Pat McAfee]

So I can just get rid of. Sorry, upper right. Upper right, up right. That's my fault. Yeah. Upper left. Is edit still right there it is.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, he's right.

[Pat McAfee]

So it's the new update select.

[Boston Connor]

No, I don't have this one. The three dots you hit select messages.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't have it. I don't have it. Of course I don't. This thing I'm so sick of is under edit. It's under Edit too.

[Evan Fox]

If you click on Edit.

[I]

Filter by.

[Darius J. Butler]

Select.

[Evan Fox]

I can filter by.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh yeah. Read at all. Yeah. So if you click Edit, select messages. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh my gosh.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh yeah. Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Zero. Thank you. Thank you. In the back.

[Ty Schmidt]

Great work.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh my gosh.

[Darius J. Butler]

Apple jeans.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh. If you're watching and I haven't responded to a text message. I'm so sorry. It's never coming. Never coming. It's never coming. Got it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Done.

[Darius J. Butler]

Did it.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh my gosh.

[Evan Fox]

What a day.

[Pat McAfee]

I used to have to like do max math. Like okay, 37 is a new text now today.

[Evan Fox]

That sucks.

[Pat McAfee]

38 means one new text and then I have like 47 sitting. I'm like, am I opening up to nine new text messages here or is this potentially a new number? We just beat the game. Thank you, Tim. Hey Tim. Thank you. Great work, Tim. You need to be thinking of that. Tim Apple. Thank you for doing that. Would have been cool. I make that shot with Dicky V. Definitely.

[Evan Fox]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Instead I missed it.

[Evan Fox]

He was on top of it.

[Pat McAfee]

He.

[Boston Connor]

He was.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Stop looking at the ball.

[Ty Schmidt]

Coach. Classic coach.

[Pat McAfee]

How long? So many follow up questions. How long do you think they're doing like the reps thing on his records? Oh yeah. Is that forever?

[Derrick Queen]

Probably.

[Pat McAfee]

Like did we just. Did we just take up like four days worth of.

[Boston Connor]

Cuz he just did the ACC tournament for basketball. Yeah. I mean, mean, like I would assume after that maybe he probably has to go an extended period without really talking, but he was, you know, like he he was doing the games like he had always done them, you know, being very demonstrative and, like, yelling, being excited and everything. It's not like it really changed how he called the game.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Like last week, I bet, is when he wasn't doing.

[Pat McAfee]

Rest it up.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

It is nice to. To go for a while without talking, you know, as professional talkers. It is nice to kind of. But then every time I wonder, is it still there? You know, that's a. That's a wild, weird place to be, you know, when you have no idea if anything's gonna come out. Like, I wonder if that entire combo. He was wondering if it was gonna drop out like he said he was during the games.

[Darius J. Butler]

Scary.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Especially because if you, like, you know, any of that. That's not good sound, and there's no.

[Darius J. Butler]

You know, it's no monotone with him.

[Pat McAfee]

It's juice all the time.

[Darius J. Butler]

All the time.

[Pat McAfee]

We appreciate you, Dicky V. Hell, yeah. Shout out to Coach Calipari, Derek Queen, and shout out to all you for allowing us to do this for a living. We will. Yeah. Well, I think LeBron James gonna be on the show tomorrow. Pretty cool.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I'd say.

[Darius J. Butler]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

LeBron James.

[Darius J. Butler]

LeBron John.

[Pat McAfee]

He's gonna be on a program that's crazy to think about.

[Ty Schmidt]

Insane.

[Pat McAfee]

Have a little fun with the King.

[Ty Schmidt]

Amen.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's learn about LeBron James. Let's peel back the onion a little bit and not do an interview, but have a conversation with him like that. Okay. Every podcast host ever. I don't want to do interviews. I want to do conversations. I want to learn about you as a person, not as your profession. Good mindset, good goal. Hopefully we are able to do that with LeBron. And I can't wait to learn about this guy. How is he in such good shape at this age? How has he been able to kind of navigate the waters of being one of the most famous people on earth since he's, like, a teenager? How's he been able to navigate coming from nothing, having everything at a very young age? Remember that Humber was a massive story whenever he got in high school. Obviously signs a massive deal. I think he was supposed to go with one company. His mom tells him, go listen to another company. Nike ends up signing him. He's rich. Since he's, you know, it's like, put all of his friends on, you know, and family. I can't wait to chat with him. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three.

[Dick Vitale]

Team.

[Pat McAfee]

Good night.

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