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Pat McAfee
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this conference finals. Tuesday, May 20, 2025 this program starts now. Sports are wonderful and tonight the conference finals begin for the NBA and the NHL. In the NHL we got the Oilers and the Stars. The Oilers are the last hope for a Canadian franchise to win the Stanley cup for the first time in 2000 years. Good luck to the Oilers alongside Connor McJes and the boys. Oh, never mind, that is tomorrow. Tonight is Panthers and Hurricanes. We don't even get McJesus this evening. We get to Stanley cup champion Panthers and the preview tonight which is going to be amazing. Cannot wait to see the kayniacs show up 20,000 strong and Raleigh and the Florida Panthers try to defend their standing cup run after knocking out the Toronto Maple Leafs in devastating fashion, annihilating all of Toronto and basically every Canadian alongside of that ass beating I got a chance. The glorious Bob Rood last night at Monday Night Raw. He is a Maple Leafs fan, he is a proud Canadian and his interaction with me was basically me walking up to him doing one of these and him going, I want to talk about, I got to work right now. I think that's how a lot of Maple Leafs fans feel. This was supposed to be the year. This was going to be the run for the Maple Leafs. But instead the reigning defending undisputed shout out to Paul Heyman, Stanley cup champions, the Florida Panthers, who add marshy in the middle of the season, continue on an epic run of dynastic proportions. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler has been a Florida Panthers fan since the very beginning. He loves the hockey and right now he's in the middle of a run with Lordo that can only be described as spectacular. How do you feel going into the Caniacs, brother, they just knocked off a capitalist team that I don't think any of us expected the Capitals to potentially lose. Now the Canes were favored in that particular match, but I heavily favored and they certainly did their thing. But the Capitals with Ovechkin, with the run that they were on, maybe were going to have a magical run. And the Kane said, ah, the Hurricanes may be built to go and run this year. Are the Florida Panthers going to be scrappy enough and tonight are they going to get the dub? We asked Darius J. Butler.
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Darius J. Butler
I think so, of course. And I know you said you thought it was the oil this year. People believed in the maple leaf, but no, it was these guys all along. I think we were going to repeat, especially with the trades that we Made the job that GM Bill Zito has done. Another GM was signed to an extension.
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Pat McAfee
That was that knuckle pucker. Did you see that? I didn't know that was a knuckle. That was a little snap. Knuckle puck pop. Chad.
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Darius J. Butler
Yep. Depth. Depth. Guy we traded for from Chicago, obviously Marshy coming over. So yeah, I would be worried if anything. The rest versus Russ conversation you always have. Because the Cane. The Canes will be fresher. But I'm not worried about my guys at all. They're ready for this moment. Third year in a row we're in the Eastern Conference finals and we kick off tonight. So I'm excited.
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Pat McAfee
Boiler Stars will be tomorrow, obviously, as I was saying at the very beginning of this. And the NBA Timberwolves Thunder tip off the conference finals, obviously for the Western Conference. This Oklahoma City team has been awesome all year. Best in the entire NBA all year long. They hadn't proven it though in the playoffs. Were they going to be able to take the next step and become a championship pedigree team is sga, who's been spectacular, been phenomenal, been graded hoops, obviously for this. Some people say he's a free throw merchant, but nonetheless he has been great for this Oklahoma City team. Will they be able to get the job done in the playoffs? And then for the Minnesota Timberwolves, Ant's the next one. He's the face of the league. He's the next guy. Well, is he going to be able to go on an actual playoff run when all eyes are on the NBA? Yes. Both of them have shown up now. They're in the conference finals. Who's going to stop that guy? Okay, who's going to stop Anthony Edwards?
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Ty Schmidt
Good question.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, they're probably calling up the Deutscher Chamber. Lou Dort, that's their guy. I got to take it down.
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Pat McAfee
Listen, maybe. Okay, baby. Who's going to stop them, Julius? I mean, this team right here, the Minnesota Timberwolves, I don't think a lot of people are giving them any respect to go on a run, but then you watch them play and it's like that guy's will to win and will to compete is one that is spectacular. And I know SGA is the exact same and I know this OKC teams could, but this is like a sneaky, incredible matchup here. And I think what ANT is going to be able to draw from this Oklahoma City team and the way he's going to make them react and act, I think in this is an advantage. I think the head game is Always going to be. The mental game is always going to be in Anthony Edwards corner. Sure. And I'm excited to watch this. Congrats to both of them making it to the conference finals. It's the future of the NBA being represented, obviously. Anthony sga, Jalen Brunson, Tyrese Halliburton. Okay. These are four young stars that are about to carry the NBA for the next, I don't know, 10, 15 years, all doing battle. And I think the NBA's got it right. Ratings are up. Ratings are high for the NBA. Ratings are high for the NHL. And also, news just came out. Ratings are higher than it's ever been for the wnba.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Congrats to Caitlin Clark. That's right.
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AJ Hawk
Nice.
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Pat McAfee
It's crazy how it's always the Fever. Seems like. Or it's a game that the Fever game is leading into.
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Ty Schmidt
Sure.
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Pat McAfee
It's crazy how that works.
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Ty Schmidt
I mean, you know, what are you gonna do? Proofs in the pudding.
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Pat McAfee
Get a girl out of Iowa.
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Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
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Pat McAfee
Who can pull up from the state next door. Yeah. And light up an entire arena. Every arena. And I think the reason why I feel obligated to talk about sport that I don't know enough about. Okay. The wnba. Sure. I don't know enough about it. I was never able to play it. Okay. I know it's a different style of basketball. I know it is a different sport. I watch the Fever games. I don't get a chance to watch many other games. What she has done for the business in Indianapolis. Okay. I've gone to a couple Fever games. Pre. We'll say bcc. Okay. Okay.
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Ty Schmidt
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
Before Caitlin Clark, I went to a couple Fever games. Was lucky to go. Had a great team. Fever have had a great franchise, great team for a long time. One like 2012. Yeah. One like back in the day. I got here 2009. So, like the Fever. Good program, great fan base. Okay. We're talking, I don't know, maybe 7,000, 10,000 people at those games, you know, in the middle of the week in Gainbridge arena. Since she has arrived, every game that the Fever play in that place is packed. That means local businesses are having a lot, a lot of uptick. What she has done for the Indianapolis economy in a league that I don't think has been known to be such a needle mover economically wise to the cities. It's like, worthy of respect. Now, granted, all last year she had to prove herself to, I'll say, the OGs of the WNBA. It's not going to be the same as it was in college. It's not going to be the same. Same. Everybody gets talked about this whenever they're a rookie, yada, yada, yada. I think she has finally earned the respect and credibility of her peers. But the league knows every team she plays against knows they're moving into bigger arenas so that they can sell more tickets. The WNBA is putting her into primetime locations because they understand what it is. And I think for the wnba, they need to continue to capitalize off of her. And she's the right one. She is the right one. Great moxie, great personality. Full dog. Full dog. She's been in that gym all offseason.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Little clips will come out from the fever of her just putting up 100 shots or whatever. It's all off season. All work for Caitlin Clark. We're lucky to have her here. WNBA is certainly lucky that she's there. They average either 2.5 million or 2.7 million. One of the two, the tweet said 2.5, the graphic said 2.7, and then it peaked at 3.1 million or something like that, which outdid.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, the Sunday night baseball, which was Mets, Yankees, and that was the best Sunday night baseball viewership they've gotten in like seven years. I think that was like 2.4 million.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. So I remember in the off season, Angel Reese's podcast, they were talking about like, hey, we might hold out or something like that.
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AJ Hawk
Cba.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. With the new CBA coming now, obviously we are an athlete led show that are coming from an athlete's side. Sticking up for athletes more often than not also happen to be okay business person. I think 10, 15 years from now, maybe 20 years from now, they look back at the business that this little doofus group here has done and say, oh, those dudes were probably 10, 15 years ahead of everybody else. Respect business. Love business. Been doing business since fifth grade when I was selling cigarettes for 50 cents. Okay. So, like I enjoy the activity. When you have a cba, you're trying to negotiate a fair amount of money to employees from employer. Like that is what the goal is. When league is losing money and you come out and say, we need more, we need more, we need more. It's just a bad look. You turn people off immediately. But there's an opportunity now with this particular season, with how things are going, especially with Caitlin getting as much. And by the way, you can be jealous or hate Caitlin, whatever you want, you should at least acknowledge that she has a chance to take us to the promised land. Yeah. Like if These numbers continue to be what they are. If Caitlin Clark and the WNBA continue to outrate these other sports, Disney, espn, tnt, you name it, these people are going to shed out bigger deals for the TV deals. Adam Silver, obviously commissioner of the NBA, also the commissioner, I believe, of the WNBA is a great businessman. He's got what, 8 billion or something for the NBA whenever their ratings were allegedly in decline, it's like the WNBA has a chance to become a very profitable league. And I think they just need to acknowledge that it's the CC train that is going to take them there. And also the quality, the product.
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Ty Schmidt
Good.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Product is very not. I don't know what it was like. Okay. I didn't follow every once again did go to some fever games. BCC enjoyed it and everything like that. But I think sports getting better, the eyes are getting larger. Younger kids, younger girls are watching because of her. And it's like, why not the WNBA taking a leap into becoming a profitable business for all parties, which is good for the players. So whenever you're talking about holding out and everything like that, I think you got to get to a point where there's money to be made. And then once the money is made, it's like, now we got a profitable business. Now we're running this shit now we don't have to do the three on three. Now we don't have to worry about these other things because we see these contracts that they're signing that Caitlin Clark signed for the WNBA and we're all offended.
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Ty Schmidt
That's peanuts.
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Pat McAfee
We're all offended by it because it's like two suites that are being sold for one game to come. Watch Caitlin Clark is her entire salary. It's like, that's not fair to Caitlin Clark at all. But I think Caitlin Clark sees the bigger picture, wants to leave WNBA better than whenever she got there. And obviously, I think Angel Reese is a part of this with how big her personality is and how well she's known. But it's like, ride the. Just let's go. It's good for sports. The more eyes on all these things. And I think obviously, as a lot of girl dads in here, it's great that that is where it's headed, but it just needs to be acknowledged by everybody that there is a driver behind it. And it happens to be a bucket from Iowa in Caitlin Clark.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, that's why I just like the argument is stupid, you know, like, you can. You can say whatever you want, but it's very obvious. And I think even the WNBA as like a whole. Like their. Their, you know, front office. Front league office, I guess, if you will. Like, they might not publicly.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, you know, they have publicly, though. They said, hey, all these games are prime time.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
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Pat McAfee
Wwe. All the Fevers games are prime.
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Darius J. Butler
They got more prime time games than the Lakers have.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, definitely more than the Colts have. Definitely more than the Pacers have. Legit. And she fills up a stadium in an arena more than anybody else. She's. And I had somebody tweet me this the other day before we talked about Caitlin's debut. You better talk about the biggest star in Indianapolis this year or whatever. And it's like, I'm not good at talking about the W. I don't know enough about the WNBA to talk about it, but I do know enough about business. I do know enough about a superstar. And Caitlin Clark is both of those things. And she has the work ethic to back it up. Like, this isn't just gonna be a flash in the pan. This is gonna be. This is gonna be for the foreseeable future. Cause of how hard she works. And here in Indianapolis, how gettable it is. Like get toable it is in Indy, she's drawing Ohio, she's drawing Kentucky. She's drawing Illinois, Michigan. You got people traveling to Iowa. I mean, I was even traveling. You got people traveling. Come watch here in Indiana. And then every other arena is the same damn thing. She has home games in every arena she goes to. And it's a wonderful thing. It is a great thing for sports. And it does feel like more and more people are starting to understand, like, wnba, definitely. To your point. More primetime games. They get it.
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Bubba Watson
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Some of the pundits might not be there yet, because I think they're OGs around the league. Don't just want to just hand over a torch to a young buck that's coming in. I understand that completely. But it's like, at some point, if you were to rally around this and everybody was kind of like, to promote this, it's like, then your league potentially becomes. And the numbers are saying, our first weekend, we're in a good spot for the wnba. Yeah.
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AJ Hawk
And hopefully, like, all the other stuff doesn't fall on deaf ears. And like, everybody kind of acknowledges it too. I think it will help, like, the college game building stars there as well, like a Juju Watkins. But even the discourse around the wnba, like, there were a few guys yesterday on the Internet talking about it, and it just brings more light to the game in general, I feel like. And also hammers on the point, like, hey, let's focus on the basketball instead of all the other, you know, BS that can come with sports in general, let alone just the wnba, just every sport.
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Pat McAfee
So this is a sport coming into. I know the league's been around a long time. A lot of great work by a lot of people to have that league for a long time. I'm not saying that isn't the case.
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AJ Hawk
Takes time to get like, boom.
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Pat McAfee
But now it's like you're becoming a league, like a big time dominant draw comparison.
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Darius J. Butler
Yeah, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And like there's going to be some, you know, that's a transition that everybody is gonna have to deal with. Whenever you get more eyes on you, obviously gonna get more hate. So we've learned this. Bingo. We've. The bigger you get, the more people that like you, you assume, okay, that is kind of how it goes. But also just natural human interaction is there's gonna be more people that hate you as well. I said this the other maybe last week and I got the quote from Kirk Herbstreet whenever I was going through some shit in the college football world. He's like, hey, the higher you climb the mountain, the windier it's gonna get. You know, like that is kind of how it goes. The more popular, the bigger you get, there's going to be more eyes, more people are going to like you, more people are going to hate you. And I think the WNBA is currently experiencing that. I think there's a lot of people that are experiencing for the first time an entire arena potentially hating them. That has happened in many massive leagues in the past, but now the WNBA is starting to experience that. So I think there is a little transition here. Everybody kind of has to get used to it. And then once they do that, it's like, let's roll with this thing. Because Caitlin's going to play for a long time. Yeah, angel is hopefully going to be able to play for a long time. There's young superst coming out of women's college hoops that are going to be able to carry some things. It's like they got a real shit here. They got real opportunity here, I think. And I hope they seize it. I legitimately hope they seize it. And I'm happy that Indianapolis is in the dead center of it. Love hoops, love hosting people. And Caitlin Clark has brought a lot to our city. And to your point, Ty and yours, D butt. 41 of the 44 games are on national television.
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Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
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Pat McAfee
They're on Ion network last year and it was like the third highest rated WNBA game that they had all season. Most national TV games for a single team in WNBA history. Most national TV games in franchise history. It's like, well, obviously the second one would lead to the third one there, but I like that we're just putting every single stack that we have out there. But it's the real deal. They are a draw. And whenever you have a draw, you have to understand that it's a draw and you have to take advantage of that. And the WNBA is doing that. Shout out to them for doing good business. It'll be good for everybody.
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AJ Hawk
And you mentioned, like, the league being around for a while, and now it's, you know, approaching like a new stratosphere. And I feel like this is almost like with the Saudi leagues that are happening like the Saudi soccer leagues and like, live, like the era that those leagues are in right now, they're kind of trying to get to where the WNBA is now, where, like, everybody is bought in, the league is very established, and now everyone wants to have eyes on it versus before, where, like, maybe it wasn't as popular. The things that were going on with other sports might have been, you know, even better. And now that they have a Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese and, you know.
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Pat McAfee
Paige Asia, they're superstars. They've got a lot of stars around.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah. And that's.
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Pat McAfee
Caitlyn is the supernova.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah. And that's what. That's what these other leagues have been trying to look for. These new leagues that are forming, like they're trying to poach massive superstars because they know that what comes with superstars are ratings and eyes. And that is what is happening with Caitlin Clark, and it's happening with. With other people in the league as well, but never to the scale of Caitlin Clark. And if, like, we can say the proofs in the pudding, but there's legitimate numbers that you can compare to each other that show you the scoreboard.
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Pat McAfee
Everything for ratings is going down except for football. Right.
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Ty Schmidt
Pretty much.
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Pat McAfee
Basically live television ratings. Basically either stagnant or going down.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
WNBA is having a, like, that's a massive deal, huge uptick. Like, I assume in their front office, in the executives, I think they share offices with the NBA, which is a little bit different than live because they do have a brother relationship with the NBA. So there is always, like, deals that are being kind of encompassing all of it, but watching them kind of do their thing and have their thing. And Caitlin being at the middle of it in Indianapolis, being in the middle of it is a Beautiful thing for us. And it might be parade season around here. Yeah. Basketball might become parade season. Yeah. Don't look now. Everybody on get up. Picked the Knicks.
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Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And if we've seen anything out of these ESPN.
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Darius J. Butler
Oh.
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AJ Hawk
Predictions over 22 in the second round in the Eastern Conference.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. What? Yeah, yeah.
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AJ Hawk
Everyone picked the Celtics in the cavs.
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Pat McAfee
Oh. For 22, brother. Yeah. Nobody 0% from the field, you know. Now granted, Knicks, Knicks, Celtics, Celtics are ranked champs. We get it. Going to be tough. Cavs, number one team in the East. Pacers. Who are they? Well, if you did a little research, Pacer, the hottest team in the NBA outside of okc since January. We've been banging that drum literally since January. I think strictly because I talked to Tyrese and talked to the boys and I go, hey, am I allowed to talk shit about you guys on my show or am I gonna look like an asshole? And they go, we got a good team. We got good. We. We are finding it right now. Post all star break. Tyrese didn't make the all star game. Won a gold medal, has been an all star multiple times. Is the franchise player for the Indiana Pacers. Pascal Siakam made all star game. Tyrese do not bad first half of the year. Post all star break. Like, Tyrese found his shit. Pacers found their shit. And they've been running. And everybody gets hurt against the Pacers. Yeah, everybody gets hurt. Oh, they're playing against hurt teams. That's cause they run their asses out of the gym. They will run you out of the gym. That is the style that they play. Everybody talks about how lucky they get. It's like, what if the style that they play is actually a part of their strategy in making you not be able to keep up? They're in great shape. They're seemingly more healthy than they were last year. They're confident, they're mature. They've been here before last year with this entire thing and them taking on the Knicks, especially with the history of the Pacers Knicks rivalry. Beautiful thing for basketball. Whenever we talk about these sports right now, we got McGes playing in the NHL rematch there. He's the next star with the stars.
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AJ Hawk
That's a rematch.
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Pat McAfee
That's huge. The NHL loves that. McGee's is still around right now in the conference finals. You got the reigning champs with an added heel in marshy to their team. That's great for the NHL, the Kayniacs. 20,000 strong in that arena. They don't get nearly enough love. And then you go to basketball. It's like Anthony Edwards must watch both on the court and off the court. Sga. And that Oklahoma City team is like a college environment down there in Oklahoma City.
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Ty Schmidt
League mvp.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. And then Pacers, Knicks, like right now, sports are throwing a 100 on the paint. Yeah.
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AJ Hawk
Any 500s this week.
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Pat McAfee
Indy 500 is happening this weekend. Going to be outrageous. Don't forget about Monaco.
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Darius J. Butler
F1. Monaco, of course.
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Pat McAfee
So that's their worst race, right? That's F1's worst race.
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Quentin Richardson
Yes.
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Pat McAfee
And you guys happen to have it on the same day as the best race in the world in the Indy 500. That's a tough look for F1.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah. It's easy to compare to remember because, you know, F1's in the morning so you can watch that poop, Wake up.
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Pat McAfee
Wake up, go back to sleep while watching. Holy shit. Are these guys racing or driving around town? Yeah. Oh, those are really expensive cars. Following circles, go foul. And then you wake up in the. Any 500, 235 miles an hour, brother.
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AJ Hawk
Partying in the middle.
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Pat McAfee
350,000 people sold out. 109th. That might be 400,000 people there.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, maybe more.
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Ty Schmidt
Some guy tweeted today that 1 in every 1100 people in the United States will be in Indianapolis on Sunday.
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Pat McAfee
Traffic's going to be great. Getting in now there. Certainly fun. Can't wait for all of us to do that.
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Ty Schmidt
Hell yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, we're going to go to that.
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Connor
Every single one of us.
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Pat McAfee
We're definitely going to be there.
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Darius J. Butler
I mean, I'll be a Monaco.
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Pat McAfee
Safe travels, dude.
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Connor
That would be the cooler one.
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Pat McAfee
And the NFL is obviously happening all the time. Football is obviously lingering. Not just because ex football guys battle each other on social media, okay? We got enough enemies, boys. Yeah, we got enough enemies, okay? We could disagree. We don't need to be disgusted with each other, okay? There's enough people that hate us. Sports, media, world, ex athletes. There's enough. With that being said, good luck to all parties. I don't know how you did that one. That one got real loud, real big. I came out on Monday and I looked at my phone. Holy. Everybody hates each other all the time. We learned a lot. Hopefully we can shake their hands. Yeah, it didn't sound like it. None of it. And then there was a third. You know, it became a triple threat match on the Internet. We're pulling.
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Darius J. Butler
We're pulling City street fight.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, we're pulling for everybody. Hey, boys, enough people hate us, okay? Enough people hate us, but also you gotta do what you gotta do. Good luck. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is an Emmy award winning NFL pundit insider and analyst. He should maybe win an award for the draft Spectacular his performance in the draft cave alongside one half of The Hammer Cowboys. A.P. toad. He won't.
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Connor
No, no.
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AJ Hawk
Should, though.
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Pat McAfee
Should, though. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager. What's up, Shregs?
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Peter Schrager
What's up, man? Awesome opening segment. I live in New York City, obviously, so there's a Knicks fan perspective here on all you're saying. And like, there, I guess there's all. Nothing but respect for this Pacers team. Like, we watched the first two rounds, you guys wiping out those two teams, and I just can't wait for the series. I grew up in the 90s when it was Reggie and Starks and Anthony Mason and you guys had Dale Davis and Antonio Davis. So, like, like, this is a celebration of basketball. There's no ill will right now. And especially as much as you want to make the Halliburton like, Brunson thing, like, they're both dogs and they both bring it every game. Like, I cannot wait for this series. Pat.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, they have a great rivalry because they know each other very well.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah. Friends.
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Pat McAfee
They're friends with each other off. But on the court, both, hey, there's. There can only be one of us here.
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Bubba Watson
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And I like that Tyrese has that mindset, and I love that Jalen Brunson has that mindset. It's perfect timing and it's great for the NBA. You guys say you have nothing but respect. Why'd you guys treat our guy Hans like that New York firefighter Hans like that? Why'd you do that? You were in that. I saw straight was in. Yeah, that was your trash bag.
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AJ Hawk
Messed up.
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Pat McAfee
This is. I love how Hans handled this. First of all, I appreciate that Tyrese Halliburton is flying him out here to the game. Saw a lot of people on the Internet go, Hans just worked Tyrese Halliburton into some tickets. Did this on purpose. Did this entire thing. I'm like, Hans was an industry plant. That's what people say. That was the only negative is, like, Hans worked this entire thing. I'm like.
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Peter Schrager
And it's not like Hans wasn't with an accountant or a marketing guy. Of course Hans is a firefighter. Like a volunteer father.
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Pat McAfee
Yes, of course. Hans is a firefighter. He's a hero. Yes, of course. The Indiana Pacer representative in that entire thing is the hero. And yeah, I'm excited for this, and I think it's Going to be fantastic. I think Pacers in five, probably maybe six, you know, maybe six. If the boys are so deep, you're so deep.
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Peter Schrager
Like I watched that Cav series we run. I know, it's like 40 minutes of hell. Nolan Richardson and like Carlisle, such a good coach. So, you know, you don't know who's going to kill you. It's Mather in one time, it's Nemhardt another time. Like, you guys are solid. I just feel like this is the Knicks here, man.
- [23:41]
Pat McAfee
Put that get up, but to get up prediction up there. So when you're up there, you guys have a little pre production meeting and you got Marcus. You picking Knicks? Yeah. Okay, Bart, obviously you're picking the Knicks. Yeah. Hey, Alan Hahn, I know who you are. Are you picking the Knicks? Works for MSG and yeah, works for. And then you go, well, I'm king of New York. I got to pick the Knicks. And nobody goes. It's probably not good. With how things are going. Was there ever a thought of that or are you worried about this happening?
- [24:14]
Peter Schrager
Not one person is like, actually, if T.J. mcConnell gets in the right time.
- [24:18]
Pat McAfee
There was none of that.
- [24:19]
Peter Schrager
No, Knicks, Knicks, Knicks, Knicks. And I'm like, guys, that's a horrible graphic. We don't want that out there. And then again, all right, I'm not going to be the one who's going to back off the Knicks.
- [24:27]
Pat McAfee
I've been supporting the Knicks since I was a kid.
- [24:29]
Peter Schrager
I had a, I had a Derek Harper jersey as a kid. Like I'm not the one to not do it. So if one of those guys wanted to find. But I work in the NFL and I know all too well when you see Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs, Chiefs. Yeah, you're going to get lambasted when it doesn't work out.
- [24:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the Eagles are going to win by 30 in the Super Bowl. All right, tr. Let's talk about the NFL League meetings happening today, votes happening tomorrow morning on a lot of things. Feels like the flag football thing is going to be a yes. I, we, Darius Butler and I both had our kind of skepticism about whether or not the owners were going to let these multiple hundred million dollar players play in an Olympics that could basically just jeopardize an NFL season so they can win a gold medal from what we were told, and I assume you know more about this. Jerry Jones was in there saying, we need our best shit out there if we're going to showcase his game to the globe. The Olympics is where we need our fucking gas. So we're going to put our boys into the Olympics. And allegedly Roger Goodell's behind as well for the same exact reason showcasing the game. And I mentioned this yesterday and I think it does need to be stated again. The NHL at a time didn't allow their players to play in the Olympics. This is post lockout. They were trying to come back. I as a hockey fan growing up in Hockeytown Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania thought it was the dumbest decision of all time. TJ Yoshi, we all remember him in the shootout whenever he was going after it. We all remember watching obviously Herb Brooks, you go all the way back then, even though that was juniors, that was not professional players. A lot of people that aren't hockey fans are watching the Olympics so they should see the best players on earth. So maybe they fall in love with the sport of hockey. I thought that was a short sighted decision by the NHL owners. They have since changed that. Thought the NFL was already big enough. They weren't going to do that. What is your lean? What is your thoughts? We're hearing one player per team can participate. How do you feel this goes? And America WINS by what? 3,000?
- [26:20]
Ty Schmidt
Correct.
- [26:21]
Peter Schrager
That's the thing. I've had a really wild 24 hours on this one because I came on get up yesterday and I was like, I don't want to see Tyreek Hill get hurt against Latvia. Like I'm not, I'm not looking to. I don't, I don't need Zay Flowers to get injured against Turks and Caicos. And then we don't have them all season in the NFL. And I got pushback from people both on the league side and on the players side. The union and the league both want this and I think the owners do as well. You have to understand the NFL as far as league initiatives. Two major ones are international and flag football. This marries the two. It is a bonanza of what this could be as far as expansion and growth goes. And if you go back to the dream team in 92, they got to Barcelona and yes, they won and they ran over everyone and it was a wonderful celebration and.
- [27:05]
Pat McAfee
And that was that.
- [27:06]
Peter Schrager
But the next generation of players, not only in youth, but also in college and NBA, there was a whole generation that looked to that 92 dream team and what the games brought as far as a global expansion, that's what they're hoping this could be in 2028 in LA. I think it passes. I think it passes today. I think it is that much of a slam dunk. And I have had so many people Come back to me after my comments yesterday being like, don't be flipping about this, this matters. And they're hoping that this can really expand flag football and bring a next generation internationally of football fans saying, hey, I could compete in the Olympics someday. I might not be able to do it in tackle, but I can do it both men and women's. As far as the teams go, it is one player per NFL team per country.
- [27:50]
Ty Schmidt
But if you're the Eagles, you might.
- [27:53]
Peter Schrager
Have Jalen Hurts as quarterback of usa, you might have Jordan Myallotta on the team representing Australia as quarterback, and you have who knows what position you could play.
- [28:03]
Pat McAfee
Something.
- [28:04]
Peter Schrager
The hope is eventually it's not just going to be American players in the NFL and that this could help lead to a great expansion of international players who grew up saying, I remember watching LA 2028 and my country, you know, we've competed against the US and I've always thought I can get there in myself through flag football.
- [28:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And also we got to talk about the academies that have already started in other countries and, you know, football American football academies, I think in Germany, I think there's one in Denmark, I think there's some in Spain. I think there's a lot of these countries have these academies and flag football is obviously what they're teaching, you know, the basics for at the, at the lower level. And to your point about maybe I can't, you know, fly around, hit somebody, maybe I can't afford pads, maybe we don't have a no doubt production of pads where I come from. This sport is potentially something that I can compete in. I'm happy to hear that the NFL owners and the players are thinking from a broader sense in this entire thing. This is good for the sport as we continue to try to grow it. You nailed it.
- [29:05]
Peter Schrager
You can drop a basketball on any pavement in the world and you can get kids playing three on three. You could drop a soccer ball or a football in any soccer pitch in the world and you can get that. You can't do that with American football, tackle football, the way it is. You need the pads, you need the cleats, you need the goalposts, but you can do flag anywhere and you can drop a flag football and you can play with men, you can play with women, you could play all ages. And I think the NFL has been really pushing this and they've been pushing hard to get this being a high school sport on the women's side, especially varsity flag football.
- [29:37]
Pat McAfee
I was in commercial pushing that thing legit. That was Like, a big narrative. And I'm like, I love this thought. Mostly from a selfish reason. Like, my daughter, I think she's going to. From the way she's running right now, she's got some good wiggle.
- [29:49]
AJ Hawk
Here we go.
- [29:49]
Pat McAfee
I. I think her flags are going to be tough. And then you think about if it becomes a state sport in every single state, a sanctioned sport in every single state, then you start thinking about college opportunity. That, like, you know, like, I like this. I love this. I hope it has.
- [30:03]
Peter Schrager
I played. I played flag on, like, a college fraternity team, and we got run around by, like, guys who were half our size who just had to play. It's a different sport. Like, it's a totally different sport. And I think there's also this incredible deal where there's, like, a US Men's team, and the guy's name is, like, who? Stucet? And they're like, no, no, no, no. The NFL shouldn't get, like, we're the guys who are the best. So this should be interesting to see, like, who represents. And whoosh. I love you. But if Kyler Murray wants to play on the Olympic team, I don't think Hoosh has a long shelf life. I do honestly feel that.
- [30:33]
Pat McAfee
Well, he said that he was better than Patrick Mahomes of flag football because he knows the rules. Here's his quote you're talking about. At the end of the day, I feel like I'm better than Patrick Mahomes because of my IQ of the game. I know he's right now the best in the league.
- [30:46]
Bubba Watson
I know he's more accurate.
- [30:47]
Pat McAfee
I know he has all these intangibles. But when it comes to flag football.
- [30:51]
Bubba Watson
I feel like I know more than him.
- [30:53]
Pat McAfee
And I can respect that because it is a different sport. It is. And also the moves are different, but just feels like something Patrick probably could learn. Sure. Yeah. I think you give him a week or two, I think he could probably learn the ins and outs of what's probably to going. Lamar Jackson. Yep. As a flag football quarterback or any position is crazy to think. Tyreek Hill. Kyler. Kyler. Yeah. I mean, you just start listing off these names. It's like, who's gonna. Who's gonna. And the move is that dip. The move is the dip. It's not really. Obviously, this is a big one, but the dip move is the one that we saw out of the men's NFL flag football tournament that they had for, like, a million bucks happening here in Indianapolis. I think we want and watch it live. I Think they could figure out the dip move too? Like I. I just. For some reason, I just think the NFL guys could probably figure it out. Hopefully we get a chance to watch.
- [31:45]
Ty Schmidt
I don't think we have to employ the dip move a whole lot. I think we're going to be able to tell our guys on the outside, hey, just fucking burn that guy. And Mahomes or what?
- [31:56]
Pat McAfee
What is it like seven Mississippi, five Mississippi, something like that?
- [31:59]
AJ Hawk
No, I think that's standard flag. I think it is pretty quick off the bat because we were watching it yesterday. The Titans were playing the Steelers on the field on ESP2. Not the actual teams, but in like kids representing those areas in the country. And it's pretty snap to rushes.
- [32:17]
Pat McAfee
That's what I'm saying. Lamar, though. Tyler, just doing one of these numbers here. There might be a guy. No offense if I say your country right now. I am just saying.
- [32:26]
Peter Schrager
I said Latvia. I've already been banned from the country forever. So you go ahead, say whatever country you want.
- [32:30]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Sir. Is going to be a Chinese flag football player who might puke from chasing down just one play.
- [32:38]
Bubba Watson
Exactly.
- [32:38]
Pat McAfee
From the margin. Might fall on his face three times. There's a chance that that takes place that's good for the sport. I can't wait to watch it. Congrats on us winning another gold medal. We need him.
- [32:47]
Ty Schmidt
We do.
- [32:47]
Pat McAfee
We need him.
- [32:48]
AJ Hawk
We do.
- [32:48]
Pat McAfee
I don't like this.
- [32:49]
Peter Schrager
I don't like this arrogance, Pat. I don't like that we're talking.
- [32:52]
Pat McAfee
You've never heard me talk about the Olympics.
- [32:54]
Darius J. Butler
Forgot we got to work.
- [32:56]
Pat McAfee
Hey, at least put the work in.
- [32:57]
Peter Schrager
We can't just show up.
- [32:58]
AJ Hawk
What happens with the U.S. we do.
- [32:59]
Pat McAfee
But we play the sport our whole life. We put the work in. Yeah.
- [33:03]
Darius J. Butler
Start.
- [33:03]
Pat McAfee
If America doesn't win this, I.
- [33:06]
Connor
The hay is in.
- [33:06]
Pat McAfee
I'll move.
- [33:07]
AJ Hawk
It's same with.
- [33:08]
Pat McAfee
I'm moving out of the country.
- [33:09]
AJ Hawk
To where?
- [33:10]
Darius J. Butler
Whatever country we lose to.
- [33:11]
Connor
Whatever.
- [33:12]
Pat McAfee
No, wait. We got to see what that country is.
- [33:13]
AJ Hawk
Puerto Rico.
- [33:15]
Pat McAfee
Great place. Still part of America. I don't know if that how that whole thing works. It's.
- [33:21]
AJ Hawk
It's weird.
- [33:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's a. They have an Olympic territory. Territory. But. And I said, cuz you only need a driver's license to go there.
- [33:27]
Bubba Watson
Sure.
- [33:28]
Pat McAfee
You don't need a passport. So I don't really know what the rules are. But I said I love that America has this relationship with Puerto Rico. And everybody said, you American? That's not how good. It's like, all right, I showed my driver's license from Indiana and they said I'm good.
- [33:40]
Connor
They're in the Olympics.
- [33:41]
Pat McAfee
Puerto Rico is.
- [33:42]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [33:42]
AJ Hawk
Boom.
- [33:43]
Pat McAfee
Okay, Puerto Rico. I need Puerto Rico. If anybody's winning, it's either the United States of America, which if we don't win by 50 every game, I am going to be disgusted.
- [33:52]
Bubba Watson
Could be some tough teams in there.
- [33:54]
Pat McAfee
Canada is not playing.
- [33:56]
Bubba Watson
What do you mean?
- [33:57]
Pat McAfee
I mean, you guys don't have a team, do you?
- [33:59]
Bubba Watson
We won three straight of that other tournament.
- [34:01]
Pat McAfee
That was against D Bone.
- [34:02]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [34:05]
Darius J. Butler
I completely forgot about it.
- [34:07]
Connor
When Curtis Rourke is their quarterback, he's slinging it around out there three years long.
- [34:12]
Pat McAfee
A long time.
- [34:13]
Bubba Watson
Some of these countries could get a lot better.
- [34:14]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Well, what happens when kid Canada drops back and Fred Warner was rushing the passer? Then what?
- [34:20]
Pat McAfee
All right. I just would like all the NFL guys to know that Shregs is disrespecting them. Everybody in here is kind of disrespecting.
- [34:29]
Peter Schrager
Whoa.
- [34:29]
Pat McAfee
I'm the only one that has faith. And Shrek, have you ever Faith?
- [34:32]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [34:33]
Pat McAfee
What are you talking about?
- [34:35]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [34:35]
Bubba Watson
The Canadian team will be loaded with NFL.
- [34:38]
Pat McAfee
Oh, shut up.
- [34:39]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [34:39]
Pat McAfee
It's four ds. How many dimes is he.
- [34:42]
Bubba Watson
Canadians all over the NFL, brother.
- [34:44]
Connor
The skill positions are just gonna absolutely.
- [34:46]
Ty Schmidt
Cage Canada to Mapletron. That might be.
- [34:49]
Bubba Watson
That's what I'm saying.
- [34:52]
Pat McAfee
I didn't think about that. But who's our DBs? All of them. We got Patrick Surtain.
- [34:57]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he's one of them.
- [34:58]
Pat McAfee
Locking down. And who's on the other side? Probably Christian Gonzalez, Derek Stingley and Patrick. Okay, good luck. Mapletron. Okay. This guy. Are you out of jam in this thing? Oh, yeah.
- [35:10]
Darius J. Butler
No clips, trades, probably. No.
- [35:12]
Pat McAfee
We allowed to jam in this thing. There might be a country that doesn't get off the line.
- [35:16]
Peter Schrager
I think it's like, it's quarterback, two wide receivers, a running back, and then you have one offensive lineman, which I would think is Pene Sewell just drilling everybody across the field and just going up and down. I mean, that's what I would think.
- [35:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Shregs, I don't like the way you talked about my arrogance because that clearly means you have not watched us during any Olympics. I'm expecting. I do expect to win everything. A handball. Handball. We should win that. We should win handball.
- [35:45]
Peter Schrager
We still break dancing.
- [35:46]
Pat McAfee
Speed walk. Yeah. What Australia did the break dancing. Still should be talking about.
- [35:51]
Connor
Break dance is going to make its.
- [35:52]
AJ Hawk
Way back, I think.
- [35:54]
Peter Schrager
Ray gun.
- [35:56]
Pat McAfee
You said that on me. I didn't say any names there. Okay. I don't know if that matters. Matters. But he, he. Let's move along. Two gold medals, especially our women. I watched those high school girls. All Pro bowl weekend.
- [36:14]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Brazil's got some dogs.
- [36:16]
AJ Hawk
Mexico as well.
- [36:18]
Peter Schrager
Diana Flores, she put a.
- [36:20]
Pat McAfee
She's.
- [36:20]
Peter Schrager
She's the best and she's Mexico, right?
- [36:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I mean, yeah.
- [36:26]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, you did. Mexico has some dogs, I believe. Mexico. Mexico won the U16 or U18 World Championships last year.
- [36:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but we're talking about the adults here. We're talking. We're talking about.
- [36:37]
Connor
This ain't a kids game.
- [36:39]
Pat McAfee
That's a word we're talking about.
- [36:41]
Ty Schmidt
Good point.
- [36:41]
Pat McAfee
Anyway, so that's two gold medals that I know America is going to get. Yep. And I like that.
- [36:45]
Darius J. Butler
It's only one, one. One team worried about who for men. Proper name, Asian Pacific.
- [36:53]
AJ Hawk
Oh, okay. Tim.
- [36:55]
Darius J. Butler
Oos.
- [36:56]
Pat McAfee
No, what's that?
- [36:57]
Darius J. Butler
We got tour poker, the Hawaii.
- [37:00]
Pat McAfee
What are you talking about? That's the United States of America.
- [37:03]
Darius J. Butler
Be the same as Puerto Rico as a team, right?
- [37:05]
Connor
Well, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that.
- [37:07]
Pat McAfee
No, no. State. That's the territory.
- [37:11]
Bubba Watson
State.
- [37:12]
Darius J. Butler
Okay. Sorry.
- [37:12]
Pat McAfee
It's all right. You should go to Hawaii. You ever been?
- [37:14]
Darius J. Butler
No, too far.
- [37:15]
Bubba Watson
They might be able to represent Samoa.
- [37:17]
Pat McAfee
No. What are we talking about? Boosties are in America. What are we even. What are we even talking about?
- [37:22]
Bubba Watson
Talking about Team Ooze would be sweet.
- [37:25]
AJ Hawk
New Zealand.
- [37:26]
Pat McAfee
Way up, way out.
- [37:28]
Connor
Luca was born in Vegas.
- [37:30]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [37:31]
Pat McAfee
Dude, I go to Hawaii. I've been to Hawaii. Very lucky to go to Hawaii. Always dreamt of going to Hawaii as a kid. Especially because I watched Pro bowl back when the Pro bowl was great.
- [37:38]
Bubba Watson
Sure.
- [37:38]
Pat McAfee
Okay, everybody. This place seems like a dreamland. Wife and I go out there, you get on your maps and you just do a little couple of these. Zoom out. Boy, you're hiding way out there.
- [37:49]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [37:49]
Pat McAfee
In a tiny little. It gets a little nerve wracking. You gotta zoom back in real quick and be like, where's the land? That is the perfect place. Hawaii is the perfect place. All the islands have their own. It's amazing. But they're part of us, brother.
- [38:01]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [38:02]
Pat McAfee
Jesus, diva.
- [38:03]
AJ Hawk
Did you not know Hawaii was the state?
- [38:05]
Pat McAfee
What happened?
- [38:05]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, I knew that. Oh man.
- [38:07]
Pat McAfee
You're from a military family.
- [38:08]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [38:09]
Connor
That's like. I just. Because I am majority Italian, I don't. I don't think I a play for the Olympics.
- [38:14]
Pat McAfee
For Italy. You could if you got citizenship. Yes. You haven't played for an Olympic team yet, Right? In that part of the thing, if you've already been on, the guys are being very, very.
- [38:23]
Darius J. Butler
Didn't Cat play For Puerto Rico.
- [38:26]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. And plus Tony. If Tony showers in spaghetti, they just give.
- [38:30]
Pat McAfee
Let's move along. I don't know if that's how the Italians work. I don't know. Shregs might know a little bit more about that. Anyways, we're winning a gold medal in both flag football things. And Shregs, I don't want to hear any negativity about any sport. If it's speed walking, the dancing stuff with the thing. All of them. We want to learn. Yes.
- [38:46]
Peter Schrager
Hey, I bleed America, Pat. I'm with you, buddy. Let's go.
- [38:50]
Bubba Watson
Exactly like that.
- [38:51]
Pat McAfee
That is what we're talking about. Thank you, Shregs. Other countries are good. Well, I just don't live there, so.
- [38:58]
Ty Schmidt
That are not as good as us.
- [38:59]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, not all of them.
- [38:59]
Pat McAfee
Especially not flag football. Yeah, exactly. Jerry Jones said we won't win by 100. Don't we? We want to hang three. We triple digits on these teams. We.
- [39:08]
Connor
Who's covered? Jamar Chase.
- [39:10]
Pat McAfee
Who's covering Tyreek?
- [39:12]
Connor
Bingo.
- [39:13]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if Tyree's gonna make the team, though. I am a little bit worried.
- [39:15]
Peter Schrager
Who's covering Jameer Gibbs?
- [39:18]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. No one.
- [39:20]
AJ Hawk
I mean, there's.
- [39:21]
Pat McAfee
Maybe the Lions have a good year this year. Maybe. I think we're gonna lose.
- [39:23]
Ty Schmidt
Well, you said he wants Pen A Sewell. Guess what?
- [39:26]
Pat McAfee
One player per team.
- [39:27]
Ty Schmidt
Jamir Gibbs ain't making a team.
- [39:28]
Pat McAfee
Who's coaching that team? Us. Who has got. We're not letting that USA Football group do this, right? No. They embarrass the entire country.
- [39:35]
Connor
I think it should be Dan Campbell with an American flag tank top on the entire time.
- [39:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I like that.
- [39:40]
AJ Hawk
Or Kid Rock.
- [39:41]
Connor
Yeah. And a cigarette.
- [39:42]
Pat McAfee
Well, Kid Rock's halftime every game.
- [39:45]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [39:45]
Pat McAfee
You could just be Braves D coordinator.
- [39:49]
Connor
He's definitely American.
- [39:50]
AJ Hawk
But McD Ravel ain't a coordinator from Texas.
- [39:54]
Peter Schrager
Can I give it up? Can I give a suggestion?
- [39:55]
Connor
Maybe.
- [39:56]
Peter Schrager
Why don't we bring out out of retirement. Bruce Arians represents the US and he's our.
- [40:00]
Pat McAfee
I would love that.
- [40:02]
Peter Schrager
That'd be pretty good.
- [40:03]
Pat McAfee
Like V8.
- [40:03]
AJ Hawk
What about tuna?
- [40:05]
Pat McAfee
Bill Parcel is making an appearance. Wouldn't be bad. By the way, I don't know if Belichick's gonna go. He loves America, though. That would be something that Belichick would.
- [40:12]
Connor
He's got bigger plans. By the way, Penn Soul is.
- [40:15]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations, by the way.
- [40:16]
AJ Hawk
We heard maybe American.
- [40:18]
Connor
He's from America.
- [40:19]
Pat McAfee
I'm not saying it, but allegedly. What you say, dude?
- [40:21]
Connor
Debut's point. Penny Se was born in America. Samoa. So I think he's probably be on that team.
- [40:26]
AJ Hawk
Dude, we should have like, the Secretary of State might be the freaking.
- [40:30]
Pat McAfee
I don't know who that is, but I do know that Dan Campbell and Kid Rock are wearing American flag tank tops and there's a chance that that is leading the boys. What?
- [40:39]
AJ Hawk
That's AI.
- [40:40]
Pat McAfee
That's not real. I thought they were preparing.
- [40:43]
Connor
Does he have MCDC? Got a nose block on his nose.
- [40:48]
Pat McAfee
500. Yeah, you gotta read, you gotta read.
- [40:51]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, sometimes the hands are screwed up.
- [40:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [40:52]
Connor
Sometimes coaching stuff.
- [40:54]
Pat McAfee
That's America, baby. We're winning the gold. You don't think we're winning the gold? Ball with the ball, the bang, the dang diggy, diggy, diggy. Every halftime. Yeah. Boys are ready to go. Congrats to us and sucks to be you other countries. Yeah. Flag football is ours forever. Now let's get back to the league meetings. Flag football's in. Yes. Okay. Tone has a question for you about your thoughts on one of the rules potentially being changed.
- [41:16]
Connor
Yes, Regs, I heard you make a good point this morning on the Lions proposal of the, you know, playoffs. Being seeded just by record and not by division winner. And, you know, brought up the. The point that not all division record or, sorry, division schedules are created equal. Let's say, like for the Steelers this year, they have to play the NFC North. The Patriots have to play the NFC South. Those two divisions, those two schedules are not created equal. So in that case, I believe you brought up last year that the NFC north had to play the AFC south or the NFC south or whatever.
- [41:47]
Pat McAfee
And all.
- [41:47]
Connor
And all three NFC south north teams, sorry, made the playoffs. So in that situation, you think that's why this won't get passed?
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think.
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Peter Schrager
I think there's enough voices pointing to that, saying that all schedules are not created equal, so the wins are not going to be weighted the same. And what I said today on get up and I'll say again, here is NFC north, their NFC division opponent last year was the NFC South. They ran rub shot off, they beat them all, and then they went to the playoffs. And the Lions, the Packers and the Vikings all lost in the first round when they played other playoff teams. Of course, the NFC south south was not loaded with playoff teams last year. They just had one with Tampa Bay. And that's going to be the case a lot of times. The other argument is every year, this time of the year, may a fan or an owner can look to their team and say, we got a one in four chance of hosting A playoff game. When the Lions hosted that playoff game two years ago and Mike Tirico was on the call and the Rams came in and Eminem did the opening. Like, that's an amazing moment for a city. The Browns have not hosted a playoff game since 1995. The jets since 2003. The Raiders have been to Oakland and then Now Vegas since 2003. Like to take that away because, well, the Jaguars won an extra game or the Dolphins won an extra game out of division. I just don't think there's enough juice right now and there's enough passionate people within the NFL. So as much as this was tabled and there's been arguments made that the Vikings got screwed last year, I just don't see it getting passed over the next two days because of the way the schedule makers have the schedule done with the two different divisions. And also, so the fact that the owners like the ability to maybe say, we hosted a playoff game every single year, they have a chance of doing that.
- [43:17]
Pat McAfee
And also the fact that the playoff ratings are through the roof. Why would we. Everything.
- [43:21]
Peter Schrager
Why change?
- [43:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, exactly. So that was our original take. And then there started to be a little wealth. There aren't 500. And they went, did they earn it? And it was like, oh, maybe there is an argument to be made. And with how loud it's gotten, it's like, well, maybe in the room where it happens, in the voting that they are actually considering this. This feels like one they table for another year. This feels like this feels.
- [43:41]
Peter Schrager
I would add that week 17 and 18 last year there were some dogs on the schedule of two teams that weren't relevant or one team that maybe had a playoff spot already secured and they didn't really care about the seating. This would change that. This would say, hey, you need to be finishing in the top three for wins if you want one of those home games. And that would keep everyone competitive to week 18. But I don't know if there's enough energy in the room to make that.
- [44:02]
Pat McAfee
Happen in the room where it happened. I want to be in the room where it happens. Hamilton super cultured. Look at us. Look at us. No big Broadway. Yeah, I love Broadway, actually. I don't mind those live shows. Oh, yeah.
- [44:15]
AJ Hawk
Lion King.
- [44:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Wife and I forever in New York. We'll go. We will go to as many as we possibly can. I love the weird microphone things on the foreheads, too, because they change costumes and it's like kind of sticking down and every once in a while you can see who's the big sweater. Who's not a sweater? Because that thing's popping straight out through their hair. Still picking up their voices, though, somehow perfectly.
- [44:34]
Peter Schrager
What was the last show you saw?
- [44:36]
Pat McAfee
Oh, I think it was. Jay Sud was doing. What's that? Robin Williams. It was off Broadway. Jason was doing that Boat society in a small little theater. Jason at one point was next. Next to us in the stands in the stairs while doing it. Got a chance to meet him afterwards. Said, well, he didn't crush. Yeah, absolutely. I just like watching people do their. Whatever their.
- [45:01]
Peter Schrager
It's the best in the world. The best in the world are doing it every night and they do it eight times a week. So they do the matinee performance also. Like, I'm always amazed. I live in New York. We try to go. But The Tonys are June 2nd. Like, Pat, I want to go to the Tonys. Forget the sports Emmys.
- [45:16]
Pat McAfee
You know what? Dookie Hauser, right?
- [45:18]
Ty Schmidt
He has, like, several times in the past. I don't know if he is this year, but. Yeah, no, Patrick.
- [45:23]
Peter Schrager
It's good.
- [45:24]
Pat McAfee
That's his name, right?
- [45:24]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he's Doogie House, right?
- [45:27]
Bubba Watson
One of his.
- [45:28]
Ty Schmidt
His greatest character.
- [45:29]
Bubba Watson
What are you talking about?
- [45:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I started with the. The typing, right? That's. That's how I. Yeah, he's talent. That guy's real talent in there. I just like watching people do their personally. That's just it. If they work their ass off, they have to perform in front of people. Especially whenever you're in there, it's like I could see every slip up that you have. I could see every voice crack that you have. And you talk about them doing it like eight times a week or whatever. It's like three shows a day sometimes back to back to back. I think we talked couples. Coop did this. He did a run in London. In London. And it was like eight shows a week or something. Yeah, he just like, absolutely crushed it. It's like, I don't know how you're.
- [46:05]
Peter Schrager
I. I just saw Glengarry Glenn Ross, which is a famous one. And this is the cast. If you want to just know who you get.
- [46:14]
Pat McAfee
Who?
- [46:14]
Peter Schrager
Bill Burr.
- [46:15]
Pat McAfee
Bill Burr.
- [46:17]
Peter Schrager
Kieran Culkin. Okay. From Succession. Then you had Roman Michael McKeon, who you would know he's in like, final tag, all sorts of things. And then Kirk, who is better Call Saul? The four of them.
- [46:30]
Pat McAfee
Bob.
- [46:31]
Peter Schrager
Just an unbelievable show. And I saw it like my wife. And I was like, you want to go see it? Like, you just see that on any given random night. That's Broadway. It's amazing.
- [46:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That's why everybody hates the Knicks.
- [46:38]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [46:39]
Pat McAfee
That's why everybody likes the Pacers, Okay? We don't have Bill Burr standing up there with Kieran and the boys every single night. Okay. That's not an opportunity. We got Caitlin Clark, though, breaking records, you know, down pretty good. Very good. Very good. We got a lot of Applebee Pacers and six Applebee's.
- [46:54]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, we got topgolf up here.
- [46:56]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we do got good Applebee's. You know, I think that.
- [46:59]
Connor
Any chain you want.
- [47:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [47:01]
Peter Schrager
So, bro, I love Indianapolis.
- [47:03]
Darius J. Butler
Truly.
- [47:03]
Pat McAfee
Great city. Great city. Great place.
- [47:05]
Peter Schrager
Great city.
- [47:05]
Pat McAfee
If you haven't been come, come on down.
- [47:08]
Peter Schrager
It's an awesome city. Easy to get to, great downtown, walkable. And I've. I go to the combine every year. I look forward to it. It's great.
- [47:16]
Pat McAfee
Well, the combine is a whole different animal, doc. Everybody's here. That's like your. I mean. I mean, that's heading in the draft season. I mean, that is 500 shraga's getting. Yeah.
- [47:24]
AJ Hawk
Different animals.
- [47:25]
Pat McAfee
You need to come to any 500 at least once in your life. I don't think you need to go a bunch of times unless you fall in love with it, but you need to at least do it one time. As you experience. Sold out this weekend, it's easy to.
- [47:35]
AJ Hawk
Fall in love with it.
- [47:36]
Pat McAfee
Throwing that out just to begin, I.
- [47:39]
Peter Schrager
Looked at flights because I got no plan. It's Memorial day. The Knicks are playing the pace. I looked at flights. I was gonna take my son. Like, you can't get a hotel room or a flight to India this weekend. It is. Is between Indy 500 and the Knicks. Like it is. New York to Indy. No chance.
- [47:51]
Pat McAfee
That's right. We don't want you over here anyway.
- [47:52]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, exactly.
- [47:53]
Peter Schrager
I know.
- [47:53]
Pat McAfee
We want Hans. We need Hans. We want Hans. We want New York. Firefighters. Yeah. Coming here. We want heroes coming here. That's right, Shreya. It'd be nice to have you out here, though. Anytime you want to come, we can find a hotel room. By the way, I think. I think we know a couple people you can stay with.
- [48:07]
Connor
Connor, too.
- [48:08]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, stay at Dumpy's house, which does suck, so he's not gonna be here. Perfect. Yeah.
- [48:12]
AJ Hawk
You could use my apartment if you want. Pete.
- [48:14]
Pat McAfee
He's got a penthouse, too. He's got a. Yeah. Connor's living like a king of Indianapolis. Yeah. And Gumpy, too. Gumpy's got a 5 TV setup in his living room. I don't know if you guys just.
- [48:22]
Bubba Watson
Dialed that up this weekend. Phenomenal.
- [48:24]
Pat McAfee
I FaceTime with Gumpy last night. He's like, look at this setup I got pal. And he just turns and it's just five TVs across the wall. I'm like, holy shit. Tell me you're betting on too many sports without telling me you're betting on too many sports. You can stay there. You and the boy can watch literally everything. All right, last rule change that's potentially coming. This one's confused me a bit, so maybe you'll be able to explain it better. Go ahead, Ty.
- [48:46]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, sure. Can we just get some clarity on the new onside kickoff rules? What they can now declare at any time when they're down, they're moving it up a yard because only 6% of the onside kick attempts were recovered. What's going on with this and how much should we expect this to actually change?
- [49:05]
Peter Schrager
We vacillate as league, and I say we because it's. It's the media. In addition, because you want to make it safe for the kickoffs, but you also don't want to eliminate special teams. And obviously it's close to this show's heart how important special teams is. The onside kick became a nearly impossible thing to convert last year. So this modification which is being presented would make it potentially a little easier to recover onside kicks for the kicking team. And yet I think you're now constricting the field in a way that it's changing things again. I'm not sure it's going to pass if that modification is going to be presented in the room.
- [49:40]
Pat McAfee
It just feels weird. So you see how the kicking team is one yard off the line there. They're going to move them up to the line. So you see they're one yard off, one yard off, one yard off. They're going to now be allowed to move all the way up to the line where the ball is being kicked from. I think they should let back foot be online so you get two extra yards there. So then it's only a nine yard kind of run up there. I hate it all, you know, for the sidekick, because I appreciate the fact that they wanted more returns. I appreciated the hybrid dynamic kickoff. I appreciated all that. But the onside kick was such a special play. Yeah. And the NFL would say we'll sacrifice the onside kick so that we get maybe a thousand more kickoff returns throughout the rest of the year. We get a little bit more explosion. Their angle is that they're trying to save special teams to try to save the Kickoff. Feels like the onside kick might be impossible to save. Feels like this one might be. Might be over. But you can always get lucky, and he can always be in it.
- [50:38]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [50:39]
Pat McAfee
And shout out to Chuck Pagano, kind of letting me do surprise onside kicks basically whenever I wanted. So those were. Those were good times. Those were fun times. I mean, those were. I felt like I was really a part of the game. And I was like, all right. Not only do I just come out here, huge momentum. Yeah, definitely. It was a pick. There was a weapon, dude. Yeah, it was. It was.
- [50:59]
Peter Schrager
No doubt.
- [51:00]
Pat McAfee
It was cool feeling, too. Knowing, like, if I check this, is that common?
- [51:05]
Peter Schrager
Like, what a coach. Would a coach give a green light to the kicker?
- [51:07]
Pat McAfee
Like that.
- [51:07]
Peter Schrager
Is that common or is that just, like, a very Chuck thing that, like, hey, I trust you and, like, you're my guy?
- [51:11]
Pat McAfee
I had to prove it in practice. So I knew, like, every practice rep was, like, more important almost than the one in the game. Chuck needed to see with his eyes the ball go into somebody's hands on our team, and then he needed to see this. He needed to see everything work. Needed to see it in practice, which I think a lot of these kickers, and I don't want to blame kickers because kickers have a hard enough job and nobody really gives them respect. But I think kickers stopped working on onside kicks as well. As soon as the percentages get this low, it's like. Well, it's just a hit and hope anyways. Everybody puts the ball sideways. They just kind of try to spin it and do it. Like, I used to work on onside kicks, I wanted that ball to be real hot. I wanted that thing to be a jump ball. But to work on that, I'm jamming my big toe into the top of a football, and then I'm also ripping my hip, basically. So for kickers just to sign up, to do that with less than 5% chance of it being recovered, Like, I don't think guys were working on onside kicks. Everything just became, like, a very fascinating, very blatant dude.
- [52:04]
Peter Schrager
This is fascinating to me because you also have a budget of your time. You're gonna. You're gonna be punting reps. You know, how much am I gonna be doing this?
- [52:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you're right. You gotta budget your reps. You gotta budget your time. And also, it hurts. Like, the. The high hop thing hurts. Like, that's not a fun thing. You're jamming your toe into the top of it. But if you can get that thing to.
- [52:22]
Darius J. Butler
Boy, that's scary.
- [52:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because on the, on the hands team on the other side. Yeah. They're standing like this and it's like, okay, now there's at least a second guess that you can get it. Haven't seen a good high hop in a long time. Have not seen like a great high hop out of anybody in a long time. Janikowski back in Oakland, when you're playing on that baseball field, he used to take the ball off the dirt and that thing was just like. It was unbelievable. Because he's that lefty too. And the way he wouldn't even take steps. Yeah, just like back up and do his thing. That would go through. Crosby had a good high up. I think I had a good high.
- [52:55]
Peter Schrager
Crosby had. What was the guy in Seattle who had it in the NFC championship game? Ryan. John Ryan. Was that him? It was. Or was it the kicker?
- [53:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it might have been Steve.
- [53:04]
Peter Schrager
Might have been Hauschka.
- [53:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it might have been Hauska.
- [53:07]
Peter Schrager
Canadian.
- [53:07]
Pat McAfee
Vinateri had a great high hop. He's Canadian.
- [53:13]
Peter Schrager
That's all. Maybe Ryan or how one of them was Ryan. Might have been.
- [53:18]
Darius J. Butler
Worst feeling in the world as that hands guy. Did it in college. Went up high. Had to jump my highest fully exposed. You know, somebody touched you get flipped against Pittsburgh Panthers, actually in college. Flip landed right on my head. Knocked out. Told myself never again would I be that guy. Coach McMahon. Midge asked me in the league. I think Reggie was hurt maybe, maybe the year he either tricep or acl. And he asked me to be the guy. I was like, coach, I'm be honest with you. I don't want to put the team in this position. I will not put myself out there for that. Couldn't do it. So. And to your point too, most kickers, when that time comes, we know as a return, as a hands team, they only have one kick in their bag. That coach is going to trust me. You can go through the tape. They probably only kick three onside kicks in there. So, you know it's going to be odd hot. It's going to be a spinner. So you had the middle dribbler and all the different options. So that, that's a headache for like a special teams unit to. To have to prepare for.
- [54:09]
Pat McAfee
I didn't have the high hop left. I. I could never get it. Could never get it. Just kicking it right out of bounds. It's like, I don't think this one's in the bag, brother. I don't think this is it. Okay, we need one last question before we have to get out of here. Debut has a question about a very active offseason, seemingly for John Lynch.
- [54:23]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. Passing out a bunch of money. Brock Purdy got prayed and now Fred Warner got a huge deal making him the highest paid linebacker in NFL history. Any other deals that we can expect around the league and what went into this deal and there's a ton of guaranteed money he got.
- [54:38]
Peter Schrager
Well, I wouldn't say what's coming next. I'll just tell you this. The 49ers, the last few offseasons have been dealing with crap with contracts going all the way up into the start of training camp. And this was a priority for them this offseason to get this done before they got to training camp. And it was Purdy, it was Kittle and it was Warner. They checked all three boxes off. The Purdy one came about in a great way because this was starting really in Santa Clara in a conversation. Then at the combine in Indianapolis at St. Elmo's, John Lynch, Parag Merathi and Brian Hampton met with Kyle Strong and Purdy's agent and that got the ball rolling. The big difference was they got a no trade clause in for Purdy, which the Niners had never given before. Purdy gots a great deal and then Fred Warner was the icing on the cake. We knew Fred Rico Warner wasn't going anywhere. They get them all done, no drama. They have their three cornerstone pillar leaders in the locker room and they can go and move forward into this summer and try to forget last year, which was just a lost season in San Francisco.
- [55:33]
Pat McAfee
I'll say this as a guy that got a chance to maybe have a beer with George Kittle at Wrestlemania, he looks unbelievable. Not that he does.
- [55:40]
AJ Hawk
He.
- [55:40]
Pat McAfee
Not that he never does, but he looks unbelievable. So jacked. Like so, so jacked. Vibes so high around his. His crew too, all the time, they assume. I think that was right before that deal got announced. So he probably knew what was around the corner. Congrats, all of them. They've earned it. Congrats to the 49ers this year seemingly much more positive offseason as opposed to a negative one. Maybe they'll be back. Is Christian McCaffrey going to play big trick? We hope so, yes.
- [56:05]
AJ Hawk
Trent Williams still playing?
- [56:06]
Pat McAfee
That's a good question. What's going on?
- [56:08]
Peter Schrager
All of these guys? This is. They're keeping an eye on all of it. They just wanted to get their guys in and know that there will not be contract talk. So hopefully all these guys Will be healthy playing and all the field come V. That's awesome.
- [56:18]
Pat McAfee
Shregs. We can't wait to watch you cover the Olympics as the Americans dominate every sport. Okay. Don't ever forget it.
- [56:25]
Peter Schrager
I'm sorry.
- [56:26]
Pat McAfee
I. I just.
- [56:27]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [56:27]
Peter Schrager
I appreciate you. I love having me on. And I will tell you this. I will never again doubt the Americans when it comes to those five rings in the Olympic Games.
- [56:34]
Pat McAfee
On this show. On this show, everywhere else. You can tell your real feelings here when you little. We're going to do it. You're the man, laser D.6 and 6. You can't get a hotel in Indiana. All right. All right. See you. Drake's the best. I'm about done with all the text messages from every human that's from New York letting me know that the Pacers are going to lose to them, though. Sure.
- [56:55]
AJ Hawk
Block them. That's what I did.
- [56:57]
Pat McAfee
Hour two is going to be insane. Starts right now. We're lucky to have a great hour two ahead of the US because it's not just me, you know, obviously the talk stables here at Boston. Connor and at Tai Schmidt. Con man. I saw the Patriots are favorite in 11 of their 17 games.
- [57:16]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, pretty sweet. I mean, how's that happen? I think we know how that happens. His name is Mike Vrabel and his name's Drake May. I think we all can understand what is coming for the NFL this year, but, yeah, wonderful day. I mean, I had the greatest morning of my life this morning, so basically nothing can knock me down. And you adding the fact that the Patriots are failing favorite in 11 to 17. Just. That's. That's just the cherry on top.
- [57:39]
Pat McAfee
I heard you had a lot of fun this morning. That's good news. No, I had.
- [57:42]
AJ Hawk
I didn't have a lot of fun. A lot of fun this morning would be a, you know, a nice plate of flapjacks, you know, with some syrup, maybe.
- [57:49]
Pat McAfee
That.
- [57:50]
AJ Hawk
That'd be a lot of fun. What I had this morning was my world rocked, brother.
- [57:55]
Pat McAfee
Okay, okay. I'm sorry.
- [57:57]
AJ Hawk
I basically went to an AC DC concert.
- [57:59]
Pat McAfee
We could say that they're on tour right now. They're on tour now. I think Metallica played at Virginia Tech, too. I saw that place.
- [58:14]
AJ Hawk
Earthquake registered.
- [58:15]
Ryan Clark
Earthquake.
- [58:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That would have been awesome to be there. You know, I'm not like, signing up for a Metallica concert. I do like Metallica, but not signing up for a Metallica concert. Not a big concert. Guy in myself love music. Don't love the whole. All the shenanigans. Sure. Getting in Doing it, getting out, going home. There's a two year old, a lot of jobs, traffic, all that shit. Getting in, getting out. Yeah, that's what I'm referring to. I'm referring to sitting in a parking lot.
- [58:42]
AJ Hawk
I'm even just talking, walking, all of that. Yes.
- [58:45]
Pat McAfee
Sweating. We're doing the whole thing. Like I love the idea of concerts. I don't personally love going to a lot of concerts. With that being said, that one I wish I would have been at that. Felt like a cool moment. Moment there.
- [58:56]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [58:56]
Pat McAfee
Tony Robbins I saw on his Instagram. He was at AC DC the other night. Wow. He was doing a fake clap. The Thunderstruck. I mean it was, it was incredible.
- [59:05]
AJ Hawk
Sand in my boots, dude.
- [59:07]
Pat McAfee
That festival, see, we should have been there.
- [59:09]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [59:09]
Pat McAfee
That feels like one that we were certainly invited to and certainly should have went to. Getting out of that one though, I saw a lot of. That's the thing. Yeah.
- [59:16]
AJ Hawk
You need a copter, a boat to get out of that pack.
- [59:19]
Connor
That's when your jet comes in.
- [59:20]
Pat McAfee
You could just hang out with Wiz and Chevy, Water woods and Will and the boys. Yeah. You just float your ass out of there.
- [59:25]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
- [59:26]
Pat McAfee
It feels like that is something that happens anytime Whiz is around. But I'm happy to hear you had a great morning of fun.
- [59:30]
AJ Hawk
1/2 it wasn't fun, man. My life changed forever.
- [59:34]
Pat McAfee
1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys AP Tone is here. Nine year NFL fun, huh?
- [59:40]
AJ Hawk
Life changing forever. Does that sound fun?
- [59:42]
Connor
Yeah, it doesn't sound not fun.
- [59:43]
AJ Hawk
That sounds glorious. Sounds biblical.
- [59:45]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you had a biblical fun morph morning.
- [59:48]
AJ Hawk
If. No, you can't describe it as fun.
- [59:50]
Pat McAfee
Because it was fun.
- [59:51]
AJ Hawk
Describing it as fun is like, what am I, two years old on a shitty baseball team?
- [59:55]
Connor
Biblical doesn't seem fun.
- [59:57]
Pat McAfee
You know, like biblical means epic.
- [60:00]
Connor
I. I always take biblical. Something bad happened.
- [60:02]
AJ Hawk
Biblical is like you say, epic, legendary. Something I'll remember forever. Something I'll tell my grandkids about it.
- [60:09]
Pat McAfee
Something that's something that is fun.
- [60:12]
AJ Hawk
No, it's not fun, man.
- [60:14]
Pat McAfee
You went on a ride this morning. Nine year NFL veteran Darius J. Butler here. Good to see you, buddy. Lips looking better today.
- [60:19]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, one day better.
- [60:22]
Pat McAfee
Good ice pack this morning.
- [60:23]
Darius J. Butler
Smaller, more compact.
- [60:26]
Pat McAfee
He did walk into this office floating this morning, wasn't he? He came in screaming. He really was. Yeah, screaming from the moment he entered the door through the locker room, all the way down the court into the think tank. You could hear Conor.
- [60:40]
Bubba Watson
Yep.
- [60:41]
Pat McAfee
Conor was radiating. Yeah. And then Gumpy behind him. Oh, buddy, you know he's Doing his thing with his little flip flop. He's flopping around and then Zito comes running in. The boys represented this morning? They certainly did. Now let's go to an attic in Ohio. Ladies and gentlemen, college football national champion, super bowl champion, Ryder cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. hawk is here. Hawker Connor had quite a fun morning. Okay, I think that's more than fun, man.
- [61:07]
AJ Hawk
You can't describe it as fun. If you describe it as fun, it sounds like it was a Mickey Mouse morning. No offense.
- [61:13]
Pat McAfee
It wasn't. It wasn't a Mickey Mouse morning. Aj, do you. Do you want to know what he's all jacked up about, A.J.
- [61:20]
Ryan Clark
Yeah, I would love to. I think a lot of people would love to know what the. How he is describing it I think has a lot of people confused.
- [61:26]
Pat McAfee
We have some breaking news running two, one, action. Good transition talk.
- [61:41]
Darius J. Butler
What?
- [61:59]
Pat McAfee
Tom Cruise is on the show tomorrow. Tom Cruz is on the show tomorrow. Obviously Final Reckoning is in theaters on Thursday. Everybody is gonna go to this movie. It is 2 hours and 50 minutes, I believe of non stop. Right hook, left hook, right hook, left hook. And Connor, Gumpy and Zito got a chance to screen it this morning at 7:30am because it is a three hour runtime. And they showed up with the juice. I believe Connor cut a promo after the screening to some movie site that might get used somewhere. Connor was floating in here this morning. It was the ride of a lifetime is how you describe it.
- [62:43]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, one of the greatest movies ever seen. And that is not hyperbole. I've watched Mission Impossible since the Inception, since the first one came out. I've watched all of them. I've seen them all multiple times. Last night I watched Reckoning Part 1 and then Final Reckoning was today.
- [62:57]
Bubba Watson
And.
- [62:58]
AJ Hawk
And let me just say, I mean there. There's nothing you can prepare for. Okay. Right off the bat, I won't go into it. I tell myself I'm so jacked up to talk about the movie. That's why I gave a 10 minute interview after to the guy who already seen it four times. May I add, he still sat through the entire thing with us because he was so juiced to watch it again. I can't wait to see it again. It truly is the perfect movie, start to finish. I think that's the only real way to describe it.
- [63:26]
Pat McAfee
7:30Am you're watching this thing.
- [63:28]
AJ Hawk
And I was up at 5 because I couldn't wait.
- [63:30]
Pat McAfee
It's got to be the earliest anybody has seen this movie in a day. And I'LL tell you what, from what it sounds like, it is the perfect way to start your morning.
- [63:36]
AJ Hawk
I want to watch it tomorrow morning at 7:30. So I don't know if that guy wants to watch it for his fifth time, my second. But I would go. I would go tonight. I'd see it twice in one day if it was possible. It was that good of a movie. And I just. I just. My heart goes out to TC for everything he's done for us.
- [63:52]
Pat McAfee
Shout out to Paramount, obviously giving us the opportunity to screen that beforehand. I got, you know, a family and also home from Raleigh. I was not able to make it this morning. The boys represented in aj. I cannot wait to talk to Tom Cruise. That'll be on tomorrow, 12:30 Eastern. AJ Hawk. Tom Cruise joining the program.
- [64:12]
Ryan Clark
Yeah, that doesn't. I mean, when you say it out loud, it doesn't feel real. I mean, how.
- [64:16]
Pat McAfee
Since.
- [64:16]
Ryan Clark
I guess probably since the first time I joined you when I was a guest on your program back in the day. I think I mentioned Tom Cruise, probably my very first ever appearance with you.
- [64:25]
Pat McAfee
So.
- [64:25]
Ryan Clark
Yeah, what a. What a weird, strange trip this. This whole situation is, huh?
- [64:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it certainly is. We. We had a meeting with Paramount folks, you know, to set up the screener and everything like that, and shout to Fosso, shout to Faso, kind of navigating the waters here, piecing the things together, you know, Faso kind of piecing things together. What we heard is that Tom Cruise has definitely heard us talk about Tom Cruise is what we heard. So I. There was a whole moment in the middle of this call where I just stopped everything. I go, so Tom Cruise knows the program? And they go, oh, yeah, he has seen a lot of your stuff. And I go, let's just take a moment here. And then Ty's in the back. Yes. Yeah, like screaming in the back. Yeah, it's gonna be, man. Yeah, I'm excited. I am very excited. Ty, I know you're zeked up. You got a little zipper burn there. Whenever it all.
- [65:13]
Ty Schmidt
It's hard not to. I mean, I've been living and dying with TC since I can remember, to be honest. We can go back to Taps, you know, which came out like nine years before I was born. I think I've seen every single movie in TC's catalog multiple times. And I mean, we're gonna get to talk to the guy.
- [65:29]
Pat McAfee
I think we should. We should maybe clip you talking about Tom Cruise just all the time that you have, because it's always the same exact thing. TC did it again.
- [65:37]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [65:39]
Pat McAfee
Did it again. And then every clip we see from the promotional run of all the. That he's doing, he's like this guy's 60 years old. What he is, he's a madman.
- [65:47]
Ty Schmidt
He is a complete psychopath. Will do anything for the. The masses. Entertainment and like con. I mean he, he never loses, he never fails every single time. And he just keeps, keeps pushing the envelope.
- [66:00]
Pat McAfee
12 billion at the box office.
- [66:01]
Ty Schmidt
That's pretty good.
- [66:02]
Pat McAfee
12 billion. Largest non Marvel character all time box office. 12. I just started doing my research on. I'm like, I can't believe what you're do gonna to talk to this guy. I should show some respect. Let me do some research on this.
- [66:14]
AJ Hawk
That's going to be 13, by the way.
- [66:16]
Pat McAfee
Probably more.
- [66:18]
AJ Hawk
I mean, I just mean in the next month.
- [66:20]
Pat McAfee
This one's good, huh?
- [66:21]
AJ Hawk
It is, it's. So you mentioned all like the footage, like even that little sneak peek there. It doesn't even encapsulate what this movie's about. It's way more than that.
- [66:32]
Pat McAfee
Well, shout out to Tom Cruise joining program wtc. He's probably, probably saying this. They said he does know the program. I'm excited for him to experience our show too. Yeah, I'm excited for how that go. I think it's pretty normal probably.
- [66:44]
Ryan Clark
I mean the dude's been, he's been the biggest star for the past four decades, right? I mean if he's 60 years old, I assume he's been acting before he was 20. He was in some of those old school movies. Yeah, like the, the longevity is unheard of with what this guy does.
- [66:57]
Pat McAfee
So there's been a lot of talk about him chit chatting with the movie theater employees and like thanking them for what they do and then diving into the convo about, you know, popcorn, how much they like popcorn. He needs two big things of popcorn when he's at the movies. I think he literally just wants to promote the movie industry. Like everything about him is just movies. We need to promote the movie theaters. And in the way he eats popcorn. It's a man that's comfortable around a bag of popcorn. Yeah, exactly. Is comfortable with popcorn. I mean there's, there's hang time.
- [67:28]
Ryan Clark
May lose a few kernels.
- [67:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's fine.
- [67:31]
Darius J. Butler
The popcorn.
- [67:32]
Connor
Yeah, that's his entire diet.
- [67:36]
AJ Hawk
D But I just want to see the video. If you question if Tom Cruise is eating popcorn again, you can clearly see the popcorn.
- [67:43]
Pat McAfee
Boom, boom. Two of them, maybe three in there. We don't know. Sleight of hand.
- [67:48]
AJ Hawk
There's a ton his Mouth is.
- [67:51]
Pat McAfee
That guy right next to him is going jeez, this guy. This guy's playing catch with popcorn with himself.
- [67:55]
AJ Hawk
There's no cooler his mouth is.
- [67:56]
Connor
I promise you.
- [67:57]
Pat McAfee
You.
- [67:57]
AJ Hawk
I can't believe you just see said that. Just ask me. And you are about to just ask Ryan Clark. RG3.
- [68:02]
Pat McAfee
This.
- [68:05]
AJ Hawk
You keep talking junk about TT I'll go there.
- [68:08]
Pat McAfee
We told him. Well, there was a third party jump in there too. That will probably be tired too. We don't need that. Boys, put swords down. There's enough enemies already. There's enough enemies already. Boys.
- [68:19]
Ty Schmidt
Go see Mission possible together.
- [68:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Seems like Tom Cruise would be able.
- [68:23]
Ty Schmidt
To make exactly squash all beefs.
- [68:25]
Connor
That would end all wars.
- [68:27]
AJ Hawk
I can't believe Deep said that.
- [68:32]
Pat McAfee
Popcorn journal. I did not see a single to debuts credit. He is great act. Greatest act maybe greatest actor of all time. Did you see any popcorn actually go into the mouth? Or is he just.
- [68:45]
Ryan Clark
Let's watch this already.
- [68:47]
Connor
Have you guys never seen an Alpha eat popcorn?
- [68:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, exactly.
- [68:50]
Darius J. Butler
I guess that's what I've never seen it.
- [68:52]
Pat McAfee
He.
- [68:52]
AJ Hawk
Sorry. You've never seen the biggest star on the planet eat popcorn before? Yeah. It doesn't look like us marks eating it. Okay. It looks a little different.
- [69:01]
Quentin Richardson
Fair.
- [69:01]
Darius J. Butler
Fair point.
- [69:02]
Pat McAfee
I wonder how deep he gets sometimes. Do you think he stops?
- [69:04]
AJ Hawk
Like sometimes it hits his stomach.
- [69:06]
Pat McAfee
No, I'm saying like, do you think. You think he always does the full like full throw or do you think sometimes he plays with.
- [69:13]
AJ Hawk
Oh, I think sometimes he tosses like three or four up, gets them all.
- [69:19]
Pat McAfee
D.C. football.
- [69:19]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [69:21]
Pat McAfee
NBA conference final start tonight. Can't wait to watch.
- [69:25]
AJ Hawk
Who cares at this point?
- [69:26]
Pat McAfee
We got Tom Cruise on the show.
- [69:29]
AJ Hawk
Should we watch some highlights like Top Gun or something?
- [69:31]
Pat McAfee
Should we run that clip one more time just to make sure it is real? Ladies and gentlemen, breaking news. Three, two, one.
- [69:38]
Quentin Richardson
Action.
- [69:40]
Pat McAfee
It's running form.
- [69:41]
Ty Schmidt
Gets out of the block so quick.
- [69:44]
Ryan Clark
This pen is faster than anybody's combo.
- [69:46]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah. That pencil died, by the way.
- [69:48]
Pat McAfee
Oh, the old school.
- [69:52]
Ryan Clark
It's a mask I wear for Halloween Now.
- [69:55]
Pat McAfee
Yours was much worse. I know.
- [69:58]
Ryan Clark
Not T.C.
- [70:01]
AJ Hawk
That was crazy.
- [70:05]
Pat McAfee
Actually hanging from planes.
- [70:09]
Bubba Watson
Jeez.
- [70:09]
Pat McAfee
It's real.
- [70:10]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [70:11]
AJ Hawk
Soak it in, boys.
- [70:12]
Darius J. Butler
When did he start doing that type of. I like the stunts.
- [70:15]
Ty Schmidt
Pretty much the first Mission Impossible. I'd say he probably did it before that, but like Mission Impossible too. There's like. It opens like with a massive, massive like mountain. And TC Scaling that thing by himself with no ropes or anything.
- [70:30]
Pat McAfee
Alec Connell.
- [70:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [70:33]
AJ Hawk
Free solo in this.
- [70:34]
Pat McAfee
So he taught our counter quantum. I would assume he and Alec are able to have conversations at us, people with emotion, feelings, you know, fear of, I guess, because we watched that aleconnell thing and I was. My palms are getting sweaty watching a documentary that was filmed years ago in thousands of miles away from where I was sitting. But you watch his. You watch his, like, everything that hits the Internet for his promotion. I get nervous for him. Every single scene. Yeah.
- [71:01]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
- [71:01]
Pat McAfee
Every single scene. There's something bananas and he's doing it all.
- [71:05]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [71:05]
Pat McAfee
He's flying the helicopter. He's flying the plane.
- [71:07]
Ty Schmidt
We showed it last year, like, a hundred times. Like, the big set piece from the. The first movie was when he rides the motorcycle off the mountain and then parachutes. And they were like, tom's done this like 11 times today. He's gonna do it like nine more times, probably. He's just. I mean, he's just a thrill seeker.
- [71:22]
Bubba Watson
He's a joke. He loves it.
- [71:23]
Ty Schmidt
We watched it, you know the other thing, too, and he's like, I'll see at the movies. He's piled in the. The plane and then just goes into a nosedive right after that. I mean, like, he's.
- [71:31]
Pat McAfee
He's.
- [71:32]
Ty Schmidt
He's a helicopter pilot. He flies planes. He BASE jumps. He does this type of, like, he just.
- [71:38]
Pat McAfee
He saves the world.
- [71:39]
Ty Schmidt
He does.
- [71:39]
Pat McAfee
He saved the business.
- [71:40]
AJ Hawk
That's Ethan hobby.
- [71:41]
Pat McAfee
And that's.
- [71:42]
Ty Schmidt
That's another thing. Like, that's why you say, like, oh, this guy, like, all he cares about is the movies. Like, he legitimately. Steven Spielberg said it is. Like, without Tom Cruise, like, people aren't going to watch movies in movie theaters anymore. Like, Kovid would have killed the entire industry. And he legitimately, like, saved the industry.
- [71:58]
Pat McAfee
See you at the movies is how he ends everything.
- [72:01]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [72:01]
Pat McAfee
He, like, wants that to still forever be a thing. I feel like he thinks that is, like, a part of his duty almost as the biggest movie star on earth. And I think this popcorn thing he's doing right now is like, yeah, I'll see. It's movies. And also, let's buy some popcorn.
- [72:17]
AJ Hawk
This isn't right now. Right now. He's always done this. He's always loved popcorn.
- [72:22]
Pat McAfee
No, I know. That's what I'm saying, though. I feel like that's always been his thing. Like, hey, do the movies.
- [72:26]
Ryan Clark
What if he's not. What if he's faking the popcorn? That's even better. I'll be even more impressed.
- [72:35]
Pat McAfee
He's a good actor.
- [72:36]
Darius J. Butler
I'm asking him.
- [72:37]
Pat McAfee
Great actor.
- [72:37]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [72:37]
Bubba Watson
He is probably the best.
- [72:38]
AJ Hawk
I'm the conspiracy guy.
- [72:40]
Pat McAfee
Okay, yeah, but you just, you're fresh off an Ethan Hunt ride of a life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know why we're saying fun so much to him? You know why we're saying fun? Because Paul Skeens posted on his Instagram story.
- [72:51]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [72:51]
Pat McAfee
That it was fun to watch the movie earlier and Connor says, I hate Paul Skeens. If I want to say something was fun, I wouldn't say it was Mission Impossible, Final Reckoning fun. It was a ride, a lifetime. It was right hook, left hook, right hook, left hook. What's fun about a thrill of a lifetime? It was like, that would be considered fun. No. Not enough. Paul needs to say more. Is what you said about Paul Skeez, that's verbatim.
- [73:17]
AJ Hawk
And I know, I'm not sure if he's the one posting all of his stuff, but no matter what, like, you don't describe Final Reckoning. It's fun. Okay, that's just, that's not.
- [73:27]
Pat McAfee
But it is fun.
- [73:28]
AJ Hawk
It is way more than that. You know, you're not, you're not going to describe something that changes lives in the futures of my life specifically as fun. Okay. It is, it is something that is almost undescribable. I, I, the only thing I could probably compare it to is like ayahuasca.
- [73:45]
Pat McAfee
Go.
- [73:45]
AJ Hawk
I, I assume that that ceremony of Mother Aya is very similar to what final. Exactly. Because you can't describe something that changes.
- [73:56]
Pat McAfee
A life changing event. Yeah. That's what you're saying. Here's Paul Skeens. I had an opportunity to watch this last week. Wow, that was a lot of fun. I kind of get it. Con man.
- [74:05]
Ryan Clark
I kind of get it. I do, I understand where you're coming from.
- [74:08]
Pat McAfee
What's everybody's deal?
- [74:10]
Ryan Clark
It kind of knocks it down. Like, this is not a.
- [74:12]
Connor
To be honest.
- [74:15]
Ryan Clark
I'm sorry. It did change Conor's life, it looks like. I can't wait to see what Conor does for when we walk out of.
- [74:19]
Connor
Top Gun Maverick, all of us as a group. If some like, if Bone would have said, man, that was fun, I would have punched him right in the face.
- [74:25]
Pat McAfee
Because we were all like reinvigorated afterwards.
- [74:27]
Bubba Watson
It's all relative though. You gotta consider it from Paul Skeens.
- [74:30]
Pat McAfee
A guy who, for him to describe something as fun, that basically is a transcendental life changing. Anyone's gonna be a fire pilot, understands the entire thing and also his life right now. Not a lot of fun.
- [74:41]
Ty Schmidt
No, not fun at all.
- [74:42]
Pat McAfee
You Know, he. One run, gives up, and they lose. Yeah, that's supposed to be a legacy day. So he had a moment of happiness with Mission Impossible final.
- [74:52]
AJ Hawk
They should have said that. That would have been better.
- [74:54]
Pat McAfee
Bury his team. I had a moment of happiness in my life.
- [74:57]
AJ Hawk
His team doesn't give a. They don't even have a manager or an owner. They don't care. If he said. If he said happiness, that'd be a whole different story.
- [75:04]
Pat McAfee
He watched this after this, and he was like, God saved his life. That was fun.
- [75:09]
AJ Hawk
No, he said last week, see, look, I'm on the skiing, so I know what skiings is bringing to the.
- [75:15]
Pat McAfee
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is not Tom Cruise. That'll be tomorrow. The NBA's version of Tom Cruise. Ladies and gentlemen, co host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richardson. Sorry, we got a little carried away there. You had to watch all that. We got Tom Cruise on the show tomorrow. It's absolutely, sir.
- [75:33]
Quentin Richardson
Hey, fellas. I appreciate you inviting me here.
- [75:35]
Pat McAfee
I'm.
- [75:35]
Quentin Richardson
I'm salty that I missed the invite to the 7:30. I'd have been there. Bush in bracket, ready to go. I'm a Mission Impossible. Huge fan.
- [75:43]
Pat McAfee
I can't believe it. Text. You didn't. You didn't go. You chose not to go, right?
- [75:47]
Quentin Richardson
Wow.
- [75:47]
Pat McAfee
We texted him.
- [75:48]
Quentin Richardson
No way, no how. I can't believe that I'm. I'm over there. I'm feeling Connor's energy through the zoom. I was there.
- [75:55]
Pat McAfee
That's fun. That's fun stuff.
- [75:57]
AJ Hawk
No, see, that's why he's feeling my energy, because I'm not sitting here like. Like, oh, I had a really fun time at Mission Impossible this morning. No, that wouldn't. That wouldn't translate to Q Rich all the way over in his own little Orlando being like, oh, my God, I gotta go see this movie now, because I'm not sitting here like Paul Ski and saying it was fun.
- [76:15]
Pat McAfee
Okay, Q Rich, I'm kind of disgusted that Fost didn't invite you to this. Next time. This next time we have maybe.
- [76:22]
AJ Hawk
I agree.
- [76:22]
Pat McAfee
Jimmy Pitaro's giving a speech. He needs to think about what Foster did to Q Rich in this entire situation.
- [76:26]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [76:27]
Pat McAfee
Especially with TC online tomorrow.
- [76:29]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
- [76:29]
Pat McAfee
I mean, it's a big deal. Let's go to tonight, though, please. Can we get. It's hard to not talk about.
- [76:34]
AJ Hawk
What's your favorite Mission Impossible, Q?
- [76:36]
Quentin Richardson
Yeah, that's a good question, man. It's. It's. It's. It's. It's hard to pick one, man. It's like all of them, all of them give you something and you gotta, you got some, you got a special feeling about each one of them. And I can. Man, all of them are fire to me. I just know that I've been watching. I'm like kind of, I've been watching since Inception and I'm disappointed I wasn't invited to the 7:30 this morning. But I will be seeing it when it comes out. I'm be. I'll see Tom Cruise at the theaters as he said.
- [77:08]
Pat McAfee
Thursday, Thursday it's coming out. Okay, let's talk about tonight. Conference finals start tonight. Obviously the west will lead things off here. Timberwolves, Thunder Ants, sga. Obviously a big part of the conversation is the next generation of superstars is now representing the NBA in the conference finals. How should we be viewing tonight's game? How should we be viewing everything that's going to happen in this particular series?
- [77:33]
Quentin Richardson
I mean, I can, I can see why everybody's saying these two guys can potentially be the face of the league and all of that stuff. And this series is going to be big for me. I like OKC to win this series. I think it should be a six or seven game series, highly competitive. And I, I wouldn't be surprised though if, if, if Julius Randle can continue to show up how he's been showing up. And also Rudy Gobert. I wouldn't be surprised if Minnesota could go ahead and push them. But with things are as they are, OKC opening up at home, I don't know if he's been paying attention. That's the loudest building in the arena. This playoffs. That building gets nuts. I, I'm. And I've seen, I've seen Indiana. I know what they bring. I've watched New York, I know how they bring it. But I feel like that OKC crowd is the closest thing to a college crowd that we got in the league.
- [78:22]
Pat McAfee
Bingo. That's kind of how I've been describing it. It feels like a college atmosphere. Team feels like a college team too. Like a young team, obviously very together. Ant man has enough to will the Timberwolves to six, seven game series. That's why you think it's going to be seven games. Do you think it's just his will or how do you feel about matchups here? Whenever you talk about the two styles.
- [78:39]
Quentin Richardson
Of play, I think he's that special. And I think if at 23 years old, man, if he could do this, he's, he's beating a lot of people to, to even getting the Chance to get to the finals. I don't. I don't know the names off the top, but I know if he could get there right now, he ain't got no choice about that whole face of the league. He gonna at least be one of them if it's multiple or whatever, because some people say it's more than one right now. And if that's what it's gonna be, he's definitely gonna be one of them. If he. If he does this right here and get. Gets these guys to the finals, that. No, nobody expected that. But those guys in Minnesota, possibly.
- [79:10]
Pat McAfee
Go ahead, A.J. yeah. Q.
- [79:12]
Ryan Clark
Rich, with. With SGA, if you were Minnesota, I guess, what would your game plan be to try to at least limit what this guy could do? He seems like he's everywhere, makes every kind of shot, really kind of the facilitator. What would you do defensively to try to slow him down?
- [79:25]
Quentin Richardson
Man, you got to do. You got to send different looks at them. Sometimes you got to double them. You got to send different. Different. Different coverages and do things to try to make him uncomfortable. Because, I mean, One thing about SJ, he's proven he's gonna get 20 to 30 points no matter who he's playing against, no matter what the matchup's been. He's done it so many times during the season and also in these playoffs. And I mean, right now he's facing again, he's going against some young guys as well. It's not like he's playing against some. Some super veterans that outnumber him, inexperience and things like that. So I look for SGA to have a good, good series. I think obviously it's gonna be the, you know, the battle of him and him and aunt Edward. But I need those. Those support guys to come through. And I look at what SGA has a support. He has more. He has more depth. He has more guys that do more than actually than the Ant man does.
- [80:12]
Pat McAfee
On that note, D. But has a question. Yeah.
- [80:14]
Darius J. Butler
You kind of answered what I was going to ask you. Who had the better supporting cast, but with the supporting cast and those role players, what's the difference playing on the road and then playing at home, going into these type of games?
- [80:26]
Quentin Richardson
I think it depends, man. It depends on the group of guys you got. I've been on teams where obviously guys play great at home and play better than they do on the road, but I've also been on teams where we play better on the road. We feel better at banding together and going against the hostility. So I think it just depends on a group of guys you got. And I think that shows itself throughout the time of the season and throughout these playoffs. They know who they are and they know where guys play better at. And I think it just depends on, you know, the group of guys you got.
- [80:54]
Pat McAfee
Okay, let's go to the east now. Pacers in five, maybe Pacers in six. Only people on ESPN saying that. Yeah, I know. You were a Nick there for a while. And you're probably loving the vibes coming out of New York City for the Knicks, which I am as well. Anytime you see an entire city come alive because of sports, it's a beautiful thing. I was over there in New York. Whenever they, Jalen Brunson hit the three to see the last series, the entire city was alive. Obviously, they seal their beating. The Boston Celtics place goes crazy. Like that is a beautiful thing for sports, as a beautiful thing for New York City. That is a beautiful thing for anything in anywhere, whenever that takes place. Knicks fans on television just assume the Knicks are going to win this. Okay? They didn't think the Knicks were going to beat the Celtics, but now Pacers definitely no problem. Pacers best record in the NBA, in the Eastern Conference since January. This hasn't just been like a last couple weeks, last month type thing. This has been about six months now worth of great basketball coming from the Pacers. Why do you think all the New York fans think the Knicks are going to win this? Why do you think everybody on TV thinks the Knicks are going to win this? And is it strictly the bias because it's the big city taking on little old Indiana Rich?
- [82:12]
Quentin Richardson
No, I think, I think it, it's got some merits. I mean, listen, if I had to pick, I would pick New York right now too. But saying that with a caveat, knowing, just like I said in the Cleveland series, this Indiana Pacers is everything you just said about them and more. And they, they, to me, the thing that I think they don't get enough credit for is they cohesiveness, the, the togetherness they play with as a unit and how they, they, they have six, seven guys that you don't know who's gonna kill you the worst first. It's not always scripted like a lot of the other teams. You say shut down this guy, that guy, you can have a better chance. These guys want six, seven, eight guys out there and any of them could get you 20 or possibly 30 on any given night. So I don't say that lightly, but I do say what Jalen Brunson has done the position he's putting himself in, the way he scored in the clutch and in the fourth quarter and the way he's been able to lift this team, I think he's put himself as. Obviously he's not going to be the mvp, but in these playoffs, he's been the best player in these playoffs. To me, with what he's been able to do, no matter what the situation was, no matter how well he's playing or how bad he's playing, when that fourth quarter came, he been money. He's been somebody that you could go take to the bank and he's going to get you something. You don't know how he's going to do it. He's got a little body, big body, but like he's figuring things out and he's been unstoppable when it matters most. So when it comes down to a series that I think this is going to be a 6, 7 game series series as well. But when you got a closer like that, that's, that's the kind of thing that could tip the scales in this series. Doesn't mean that it will, but I mean when he's doing what he's doing, that gives them a high likelihood.
- [83:41]
Pat McAfee
I love watching this Knicks team play. Yeah, I love everything about it because everything you just said about Brunson. But all of them, all the guys in the fourth quarter lock in and it's like you find out who are the dogs and who's not. Now obviously what they were doing to the Celtics and beating the Celtics. People are going to mention Tatum's injury. They were up seven in the fourth whenever that injury took place. They're the reigning champs. New York knocks them off. It's. It's been a hell of a run for this Knicks team and Knicks Pacers in the Eastern Conference finals is a beautiful thing. Yeah, I think so. I think it's a beautiful thing and we're enjoying the hell out of it over here. We know New York is as well should be a great thing for sports as a whole. Now it comes down to who's going to smack the wood. Tone, as a question for you.
- [84:20]
Connor
Yeah. Q. We know all the scores and the stars but. But a lot of people don't know about the defenses at all. Who do you think is the best defense left? Who has the best advantage there left in the, in the NBA playoffs?
- [84:32]
Quentin Richardson
I mean, statistically, I want to say it's okc. That's what, that's what they've really. How they Ran away with their. Their record in the season, the versatility of their defense, the. The.
- [84:40]
Pat McAfee
The.
- [84:40]
Quentin Richardson
The multiple 3 and D wing guys they have. And then, you know, Hardenstein and check kind of anchoring it in the paint. But, I mean, when you go 1 through 4 or 5, 1 through 3 or 4, they got a lot of versatile guys that could. That could guard a lot of different positions and do different things defensively. So I think it would probably be OKC at this point.
- [84:59]
Pat McAfee
Smack the wood, brother. Gotta do that. All right, let's talk about some things.
- [85:02]
Quentin Richardson
Crazy. I let you slide the first time. That is crazy.
- [85:06]
Pat McAfee
That's what you guys do in basketball. Don't you smack the wood? You bop the wood. That's what you guys do in basketball. That's your basketball thing.
- [85:12]
Darius J. Butler
Smack the floor.
- [85:13]
Pat McAfee
No, they bought the wood. You guys get your feet on the wood. Wood. You guys bop the wood.
- [85:18]
AJ Hawk
Rob the wood.
- [85:19]
Pat McAfee
Rob the wood.
- [85:20]
Ty Schmidt
Smack the wood.
- [85:21]
Pat McAfee
Link the wood.
- [85:23]
Quentin Richardson
Help me here, man.
- [85:24]
Darius J. Butler
I can give so many a.
- [85:26]
Pat McAfee
Seems pretty racist. You just did that there. I don't want to get into it, but there's been a lot of RAC. Sports media. I don't want to dive into it, but jeez.
- [85:33]
Quentin Richardson
So I referred to D because the last time it was some meat or wood.
- [85:39]
Pat McAfee
Whoa, pause, bro. Pause. Dude. Hey, yo, what. What's this guy's problem? Jeez. Jeez.
- [85:46]
AJ Hawk
No bread.
- [85:47]
Pat McAfee
Anyways. Sometimes you gotta whack the wood a little bit.
- [85:49]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, every time.
- [85:53]
Pat McAfee
That's your guys, sport, not mine. I mean, Jesus. Let's talk about things that aren't the playoffs, shall we? Ty, is a question for you?
- [85:59]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Q. Rich, I don't think we've talked to you since the lottery, and we mentioned it leading up to it. I mean, people don't want to say it's rigged, but LeBron said he understood the assignment when the Cavs got the first pick. The Bulls getting the first pick with D. Rose. And then even, like I think yesterday, Shaq on his podcast said that David Stern came up to him before the lottery and said, hey, do you want to play in, you know, warm weather or cold weather? And he said, warm. And will and behold, you know, the Timberwolves get the third pick, then Charlotte, then Orlando gets the first pick. I don't want to say, you know, do you think it's rigged? But how shocked were you when the Mavs got awarded the first pick? I think they had the fourth longest odds ever in the history of the lottery. And also, do you think that they'll hold on to that pick and draft Cooper flag. Or do you think they'll use that to potentially, you know, trade for a guy like Giannis or something like that?
- [86:49]
Quentin Richardson
Yeah, I was definitely shocked when they got it. I was. I was. I was excited and happy for. For Nico and that fan base after everything that's going on. Obviously that's been well documented, but as far as, like, the whole. Is it or isn't rigged? This is my thing. When everybody says that the NBA is really like, you know, how many players, how many, like, front office people have been let go from the NBA? And this is why I say unless they out there doing something that I don't know about. I've never seen a huge group of people like that, everybody be able to keep a secret when people leave on good, bad terms. Different. I feel like if it was something like that, somebody would have come out on the record at this point and said something to dispel that, because to me, it's too easy. Everybody talks. I feel like I was in the league, I've been part of the NBA since 2000, and I would know something. Somebody would have said something. Even if I wasn't the person in the room, I would have known somebody that knows somebody. Like, we not that big a group of people. You see what I'm saying? So it's like, that's the part that's tough for me to believe, that it's this big thing going on and everybody's just keeping their mouth closed. Like, come on, man. We watch first 48. Somebody always talk quick two.
- [87:59]
Pat McAfee
First 48.
- [88:00]
Quentin Richardson
Really bring McDonald's in the room. It's over with.
- [88:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, two different rooms. Hey, did you hear what he said over here? This is what we already know. Lying. Oh, if that's what he said, then boom, bang. Played you both. You're both going forever. Yeah, it is. First 48 exposed. A lot of what I thought was real isn't, you know, and then I think it also taught a lot of people, you look out for yourself in there. And to your point about the secrets, there's a lot of things in the world that people, you know, that whole thing, you're putting a lot of faith in humans. You're putting a lot of faith in humans to not pillow talk, to not just want to, you know, brag about knowing something. And in the world that we're in, everybody wants to get in front of a microphone and say something that's never been heard before, seemingly. So a lot of faith in humans if they're keeping that secret. And Also, I don't know. I guess Dallas deserves it for trading Luca, but I don't if that would have gone, if that would have gone anywhere, there would have been some storyline.
- [88:56]
Darius J. Butler
So nobody was saying Dallas beforehand.
- [88:58]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, exactly.
- [89:02]
Quentin Richardson
Too. They taking Cooper flags for sure.
- [89:05]
Ty Schmidt
I assumed it was in the other direction. It's like, hey, this guy could be a generational player. We don't want him going to Utah. We don't want him going to Washington.
- [89:12]
Pat McAfee
Ryan. Steve, you don't think Ryan.
- [89:14]
Ty Schmidt
I love him, but they won like 12 games this year. Like, you know, we don't want him to just go, go wither away in the cold and never to be heard.
- [89:20]
Pat McAfee
It's a beautiful state.
- [89:21]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I know. Fastest growing city in the United States.
- [89:24]
AJ Hawk
It's the Lakers. It's the Lakers thing, you know. Do you know who got the number one pick when Anthony Davis got traded to the Lakers?
- [89:30]
Pat McAfee
Who's that?
- [89:31]
AJ Hawk
The Pelicans. And now who gets number one pick after Luca gets traded to the Lakers?
- [89:36]
Pat McAfee
Who's that?
- [89:36]
AJ Hawk
The Mavericks. So you, you build up the LA Lakers, the biggest, second biggest franchise in the NBA to the Celtics and then what do you do to the Mavs? Hey, we'll give you a Cooper flag.
- [89:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but you see, this is the.
- [89:49]
Quentin Richardson
Thing you, you believe playing over there as he's talking, you need the X Files music over the back.
- [89:56]
Pat McAfee
All, all day, every day, all day, every day. Now let's talk a little bit more about, you know, teams that aren't competing in the playoffs.
- [90:04]
AJ Hawk
Go ahead all day, every day. Except for today because there are some terrible things being said about Tom Cruise's popcorn consumption cure. So you might have missed. But he eats that popcorn. But looking at the odds season completely. Hugh Rich, there's a lot of conversation. Ty mentioned Giannis, the Suns. KD feels like the Celtics are going to be making some moves. The Sixers, maybe even the Clippers, the Nuggets, who knows. But do you think that this is going to be a very active offseason when it comes to NBA players kind of moving homes and the league kind of changing a little bit? And do you think any of that has to do with this draft? It feels like being considered more of a stronger draft with some top talent up there.
- [90:45]
Quentin Richardson
Anytime you have somebody like Giannis come out and it's a possibility that he could be moved. And obviously the KD situation is looming and everybody believes that he will be moved as well. So I mean, when you got two, two all timers, two top 75 guys just on the slate to be moved in the off season. You know, it's going to be a big off season because those dudes are what, what you call seismic activity. Either one of them, anywhere they go, that's like a huge move in the NBA and there's going to be a lot of pieces that move along with it. And anytime those teams go, wherever they end up, you see some of the other teams, depending on where they end up and how. How good those teams are, you see other teams try to go and make moves to try to counter that or try to put themselves in a situation to be ready for that. So I think it's definitely going to be a big, a big off season of moving around and a lot of player movement. Movement led by Giannis and kd.
- [91:34]
Pat McAfee
I like it. That's always good news for us. Anytime big things happen like that Luca trade, you would see how people are like the NBA worked it because when Shams fires off that midnight tweet that Luca got traded to the Los Angeles like Anthony Davis also traded. Nobody even really. That wasn't even a part of the story. Everybody thought Seam's phone was hacked and everybody was talking about the NBA for what, the next three days.
- [91:57]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, that was the night of the Rock Rumble.
- [91:58]
Pat McAfee
That literally. Yeah, it was right after Royal Rumble Rumble. So everybody was talking about the NBA. That hadn't been happening. Remember there was conversation about the ratings. The NBA is kind of falling into irrelevancy for some reason. Yada, yada, yada. Then the Luca trade happens and it's all of a sudden LeBron and Luka are the new tag team that the entire world is talking about for good reason. I mean, we, we obviously were excited about it. Everybody was kind of pumped up about it. And I think the NBA from that point on had like a hell of a. All the way to now. It's been a hell of a year in this entire thing towards the end. So you can see how people would think it was a work.
- [92:33]
AJ Hawk
Adam Silver master class.
- [92:35]
Pat McAfee
You would see how people would think it was a work cuz how positive it was for the entire league of itself. So you could see how that would be an easy conversation for people to have.
- [92:43]
Darius J. Butler
I can see it. But I mean, it's not like, you know, Nico, it was obviously you trading a young superstar, but you got Anthony Davis and you were going to pair him up with Kyrie. So. So they weren't going to be in the lottery at any point in the near future if Kyrie stays healthy. But I can definitely see how the story can be built.
- [92:59]
Pat McAfee
Hey, and Nico likes to do what? He talked about it. What? Wins championships. Q Rich, what did Nico say?
- [93:06]
Quentin Richardson
Defense. He ain't lying.
- [93:07]
AJ Hawk
The wood.
- [93:09]
Pat McAfee
Bop the wood. Whack yourself.
- [93:19]
AJ Hawk
It's not like the Mavericks ownership wanted to move the team either.
- [93:23]
Pat McAfee
All right, we appreciate the hell out of you, Q Rich. Good luck to your Knicks. It sounds like you're pulling for them in this series like everybody else. Just know that little old Indiana is about to run everybody off the court. That's what we're going to try to do, and we appreciate the hell out of your time.
- [93:38]
Quentin Richardson
Yes, sir. Anytime, fellas. Appreciate you.
- [93:40]
Pat McAfee
You still. You play pickup at all?
- [93:43]
Quentin Richardson
Nah, I don't move around. I shoot, though. I like my Achilles. I'm nervous to go do anything sudden. I've seen too many of them. I sat in the doctor's office when Brandon Jennings. When I was with Detroit, when Brandon Jennings sat there and got his. I was there when he got his surgery and stuff. And the doctor was looking at me. He said, how old are you? And I was like, 38, 39. Then he was like, yeah, you guys are the ones that bought me my lake house. He was like, weekend warriors. Once a week, guys at your age, you want to get in there. He was like, every other week, somebody popping one. And I always kept that in my head. I was like, yeah, I never did that in the league. I'm not about to do it now afterwards, playing around. So I. I feel like anybody wants spot shoot, I'll shoot your face off. But other than that.
- [94:24]
Pat McAfee
That'S something you always have, right? Shooters will always have a shot.
- [94:27]
Quentin Richardson
It ain't going nowhere. It's like riding the bike. All I gotta do is get a couple warm up shots, calibrate wherever I'm at the wind, whether it's outside and whatnot. And then I'm gonna light you up.
- [94:35]
Pat McAfee
We need you to come into the Thunderdome. We watch Steve Nash. Steve Nash, maybe two bottles of wine deep at the time. He just got done filming the Mind the Game podcast and we go, steve, you want to play a shooting game? He goes, I haven't shot in like 11 years or something like that. He said, I don't really do that much. And then he gets. He goes from like six feet. It goes in, gets the ball, backs up two feet, goes in, backs up two feet, two feet. Splash, splash, splash. He goes, yeah, I think so. I think I got it. Goes into the corner, Splat. I mean, not even 10 for 10. 10 for 10. Didn't even touch the rim. And he's drunk. The guy was drunk. And it was like, this is unbelievable. For this to happen. So we need in Tyrese Halliburton. Same exact thing. He came in here. I think he won 15 for 15.
- [95:24]
AJ Hawk
Kind of turned the season around legit.
- [95:27]
Pat McAfee
I think that could potentially be a documentary that needs to be talked about. The footage. We talked a lot of shit to him, too. We were talking a lot of. Because he was having a bad. He was having a bad go there for a little bit at the beginning of the year. He goes 15 for 15, he starts talking shit back to us. And when was that? Was that in January? Yeah, I think so.
- [95:47]
AJ Hawk
Just about so.
- [95:49]
Pat McAfee
Q. Rich, what we're saying is we need to see if it's just all NBA guys just come in here and fucking don't miss or how am I missing shot? How are we missing so many shots? Is the hoop bigger here? I don't get it. You guys are just unbelievable. Why? What, so you won't miss, right? When you're no defense, you're kind of standing in a place you're going to make that shot. Like, I watch these NBA warm ups. Guys I've never heard of are just like seemingly 20 for 20 all over the court. You guys all do that and what's the difference? Just a little bit.
- [96:19]
Quentin Richardson
By the time you get to the NBA, man, you've done. You've done that motion. You shot the ball so many times. If you anywhere, even guys that get into the league that aren't the greatest shooters, shooters, by the time they spend 7, 8, 9, 10 years in the league, and you doing this as a job, and you going and shooting every day, every time you show up to work, you shooting. When you go to work out, you shooting. Come on, man. If you don't learn how to shoot, at some point you just, hey, you should have did something else. But like, when we run it, I've been shooting, man, since I was 4 or 5 years old. So to me, it's never going nowhere. I'm always, you know, like, like Stevie, like Stevie on the strip. Give me a little stretch. Give me a couple, couple little warm ups at the end. Let's get it cracking.
- [96:55]
Pat McAfee
All right. We got a game for you. We'll give you some wine too, if you want. We got to get the NBA guys a little, little drunker.
- [97:00]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah.
- [97:01]
Pat McAfee
Got to get the NBA guys a little bit more boozed up. We got some vitamins in here too. Change your altitude. Maybe the ball gets a little lighter and. And I'M gonna. Hey, we will bop the wood, too.
- [97:10]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [97:11]
Pat McAfee
We're gonna play some defense. Ladies and gentlemen, Gwen Richards.
- [97:14]
AJ Hawk
Thank you, Rich.
- [97:16]
Pat McAfee
It's been unbelievable watching these guys shooting here.
- [97:18]
AJ Hawk
It's a different game.
- [97:19]
Connor
Yeah.
- [97:20]
Pat McAfee
Steve, Tyrese. Haliburton was having bad year. Bad year. Not shooting well. People were on him like it was bad.
- [97:27]
AJ Hawk
He was having turnovers.
- [97:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he was just.
- [97:29]
AJ Hawk
That's how bad it was. I mean, he broke the record this year, I believe, for most games, like 10 assists and no turnovers. And he was having like five, six, seven, eight turnovers in a game.
- [97:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. In that four point game that he had on that Friday night against Cleveland or whatever. One for nine he was having. Those was in the beginning of the year. And it. No, nobody understood. I don't think he understood why. I don't think anybody understood why. And I don't know if he had already turned it around or if they were in the process of turning it around.
- [97:54]
AJ Hawk
Process.
- [97:55]
Pat McAfee
But when he came here, it was. It was like he was shooting at a bigger hoop than everybody else. It was. And he was backing up two steps behind the line. Exactly. Just chucking it up. Like what he did the other night from the logo or whatever. He did that in here seven straight times. Didn't even touch the rim. And I'm like, geez, this is unbelievable.
- [98:13]
Ty Schmidt
In Doc Martens, too.
- [98:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he looks. Yeah, he's dressed like an asshole. And then Steve Nash comes in, does the same exact thing. It's like these guys are just. They just got it.
- [98:22]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [98:23]
AJ Hawk
Different level teammate, too. I think that. I think that contributes.
- [98:26]
Pat McAfee
Who's that?
- [98:28]
AJ Hawk
Those guys, when they came in here, they're playing with a pretty good player. Kind of raised their skill.
- [98:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think so, too. You're 100% right. Connor has undefeated as a 33 basketball player with NBA guys as his teammates.
- [98:41]
AJ Hawk
So what does that say about me? NBA guy.
- [98:44]
Pat McAfee
Great. Boom. He does shoot well. Yes. Connor shoots well, too. I think you feel pressure. I think you feel the pressure property. Yeah. Because Steve. Steve Nash was talking a little to you.
- [98:53]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. And then when. And then when I made one, he was talking in my shot, backswing. I'm like, hey, Steve, who the hell do you think you are? Shut up. How about that, brother? And then we put like 30 on you guys in one round.
- [99:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I mean, just to be clear, it.
- [99:07]
AJ Hawk
Was 30 to 3 and we stopped playing.
- [99:08]
Pat McAfee
Me and Foxy. Yeah, we did stop. Me and Foxy are trying to be hospitable to our guests. Yeah. It was a long Day too. So we were a little tired.
- [99:15]
AJ Hawk
That's soft, you know. You know what that's gonna get us? No gold medals in the Olympics.
- [99:20]
Pat McAfee
We're gonna get all the gold medals. We decided that.
- [99:22]
AJ Hawk
No, if we're hospitable, you know, in la.
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- [100:10]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [100:10]
Pat McAfee
Shout out America. Ladies and gentlemen. Joining us now is an absolute legend in the golfing world. Traveled out here to Indianapolis, Indiana to not only chit chat about an event that's happening in August here, but also go see the Indiana Fever. A guy that everybody wants to be friends with. A guy that is currently the captain of the Range Goats Golf Club in Liv Golf. Two time masters champion. Ladies and gentlemen, Bubba Watson. Know we're good. We got to get you a bubble head. Oh yeah. Oh, I will actually. The pink driver. Whenever it came into existence, we all loved it. Electrifying. Cuz you were hitting the out of that thing with no swing coach. Right? Wasn't that the big story?
- [101:08]
Bubba Watson
Lessons.
- [101:09]
Pat McAfee
That's still the same story.
- [101:11]
Bubba Watson
I can't afford a lesson, man. I can't. They're expensive.
- [101:14]
Pat McAfee
I think now you can we. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We all. Yeah.
- [101:17]
Bubba Watson
But just for the record, if it's was 100 million, whatever y' all said yesterday, I watch your show. So whatever y' all said yesterday, if it was 100 plus million, I wouldn't even have read the contract. I would have signed that thing so fast. So it wasn't even near 100 million to get hundreds. It wasn't even close to.
- [101:33]
Pat McAfee
So real quick. So were all those numbers gassed up a little bit, you think?
- [101:36]
Bubba Watson
Well, the Internet's not always true.
- [101:38]
Quentin Richardson
What?
- [101:38]
Bubba Watson
Yes, certainly. By the. And by the way, I really want to talk to you about this. He wasn't eating that, that popcorn.
- [101:49]
Pat McAfee
He's on the show tomorrow. You don't want that smoke, brother.
- [101:53]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, y' all bumped me for him. I mean a day Early. I would have bumped me too, for him.
- [101:58]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Bubba was supposed to be on the show tomorrow. Bubba made an earlier trip. We got Tom Cruise. Bubba. It's going to be a little bit. He is certainly eating.
- [102:06]
Bubba Watson
No, there is no chance he's eating. That's why the first fail, because he. He hit his mouth. He closed his mouth early and it fell. And then you could tell that was it. His hand never moved open. He was.
- [102:15]
Pat McAfee
No. What are you talking about? He was just like Q. Rich. Q. Rich said once he kind of figures out the room, muscle memory and the wind, then he'll figure it out. He was just trying to figure out the room right there.
- [102:25]
Bubba Watson
That's that movie magic. You don't. You don't look like good at 82.
- [102:28]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [102:28]
Bubba Watson
How old? He's 62.
- [102:29]
Pat McAfee
60 something. You didn't watch.
- [102:32]
AJ Hawk
I honestly, I want to remove myself from this stage, to be completely honest, but I won't.
- [102:36]
Pat McAfee
He doesn't have 100 million, but it's close. All right, bubble, let's talk about it. Let's talk about the golf.
- [102:40]
Bubba Watson
Let's do it. Scotty Scheffler is the man.
- [102:44]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [102:45]
Bubba Watson
So boring. He's boring.
- [102:46]
Pat McAfee
No, I don't think so. I think his game is so good. I think his game is so good. It takes up for everything else.
- [102:50]
Bubba Watson
I know also, you love it. If he just started yelling at people.
- [102:53]
Pat McAfee
We got to. Yeah, out of him. We got to. Yeah. Out of him. On the. On the hat. Sl. The hat throw afterwards. I think it's because his driver was not doing well. I think he feels like he probably grinded out that Sunday co Holo. But how long do the people in the golf world. You guys, do you talk about him. Goats that. Like, when does that start happening? Because obviously you got. You got Jack, you got Tiger. And then Scotty is the conversation at this point. What does he need to prove? What does he need to do? And why is he so good? Is this just his ability to focus? What is the difference?
- [103:21]
Bubba Watson
Well, first of all, I think that, you know, he's only been around, what, four years as a pro, so he's got 16, 12, 18 wins, whatever he's got. So I think he's getting there to the goat status. He's gaining on it, but he's still got a long way to go. I think his year last year, when you count even the. The event he had in Vegas, nine wins, I think that was the best year we've ever seen as a golfer. With the competition around the world now, the world's playing. So yeah, I think he's definitely on his way to goat status, but he's still got a long way to go. I mean, you got to get to 80 some odd wins, right? So. And what was the other part you.
- [103:58]
Pat McAfee
Said, why is he so good? It's just his ability to concentrate.
- [104:00]
Bubba Watson
I think he, yeah, his ability to. He trusts himself. He's. He's only focused on golf. He has a great man on the bag, Teddy, who caddied for me for 15 years. And then he, and then he believes in himself. He, he putts unbelievable. But his ball striking, he's swaying on the ball, he's doing all this stuff, but he knows what his golf swing is, he knows what he wants to do. And he's, and he's not. Like I said, he's born. He's playing boring golf. So his heart rate is just staying right here, even under pressure.
- [104:29]
Pat McAfee
So he started pulling a driver a little bit. And then we heard Saturday night he stayed, he was. Ate a five stroke lead and he stayed for multiple hours fixing his grip. Are you guys constantly adjusting things during the tournament? How normal is that?
- [104:40]
Bubba Watson
I think for him, you know, he came out and said that his driver was, was tested as well. And so I think put in a new driver. Your baby is now gone. So he's trying to figure it out. And every time you put a new grip on or a new shaft in there, it doesn't line up the way you want it to. You haven't got the grip worn in the way you want to. So he's trying to figure it out knowing that Sunday is going to be one of the hardest rounds that he's going to face. Right. I mean, he even came back to tied for the lead. They went back up to leading. So it's a hard round of golf when you know you're winning that big. How do you stay focused and committed and, you know, not trying to just par right?
- [105:13]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [105:14]
Bubba Watson
He has to attack.
- [105:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And he does. He continues in on 18. He puts one to one like four feet or whatever with the water to the left. He had already locked it up because Rom had his run. And then he kind of disappears. 16, 17 and 18. A lot of conversation about Rom is you guys only play 54 holes at live. It's a little bit different. Is it different like having a Sunday for Rom? Because Ron mentioned afterwards, he was like, I haven't felt that in a long time. I, I haven't felt that type of thing because obviously, Liv, different style of golf, different form of golf. Different environment of golf. I can't wait to talk to you about what the future is. You guys all think for live that are in it and living it. But do you think that is a little bit working against some of the live guys, those Sunday days and how long these tournaments are?
- [105:55]
Bubba Watson
No, I think what I got from Rahm's interview was more of. He loved the chase. When you get in a major, it's different than any other event in the world. I mean, you're playing all around the world. You. You're playing on the PGA Tour, but a major is different. You're dealing with your. You're fighting yourself because you're thinking about interviews, you're thinking about this could be my next major. This could be my first major, my eighth major, whatever it is. And so you're thinking about that. And then when you're thinking about chasing. He had to attack 17, especially after you bogeyed 16. So it is. It's a birdie double. I mean, that's how fine line it was. So I don't think it was anything of energy. I mean, he works out, he's young. You know, it's just one of those things where he just. That wasn't his day. That wasn't his last few holes.
- [106:37]
Pat McAfee
It was awesome to watch. Ron back in there. DeChambeau back in there. It was nice to see the big names. How do you think Liv has gone? How have you enjoyed your experience with Liv? Because we can talk about it from a golf fan's perspective where the majors. It's awesome to see everybody back together. I assume you guys have similar thoughts about it all.
- [106:53]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, for sure. When I looked at it from a business standpoint, you know, the contract and where Liv wants to be in 10 years, it goes back to yesterday. Your point. Your point was talking about it's a new business. I mean, this is a new adventure. Most businesses don't really aren't successful after a few years. And so you have to have the growing pains. You have to develop. And we're a worldwide. We're F1 racing. We're worldwide sport. We're trying to bring golf to the masses around the world. PGA Tour. We're not fighting with the PGA Tour. The PGA Tour is America. It's PGA Tour. And we're trying to bring around the world. Everybody's watching around the world. Just us. Hasn't got in there yet. And when you think of F1 with the team aspect, where you're playing against your teammate, but also you're trying to win the. The Constructors Cup. You know, that's the same thing we're trying to do. The Range Goats are trying to win the championship, but also you're trying to win individually.
- [107:41]
Pat McAfee
I enjoy the team aspect of it. I think they're. I enjoy the team aspect of it. I think has got sick merch, too. Range guts. Great name.
- [107:48]
Bubba Watson
Well, we, you know, we actually put some thought into it. You know, the golf ball, the golf tee is like that. And then you got swamp rabbits. Then you got. That's. That's the irons, if you can see. Oh, yeah.
- [107:58]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. The bits. Yeah.
- [107:59]
Bubba Watson
And then you got hooks and slices as the horns. Oh, and then you got the. The rough is like the goatee. The.
- [108:07]
Pat McAfee
We actually think, wow, good logo, Bubba. Good logo.
- [108:12]
Bubba Watson
And then. And then when you think of goat, we think of greatest of all time. And for me, it's. It's twofold. I had going through some mental struggles, so it's grow on a team, and then it's golfers on a team. So goat stands for something else to me. And then a driving range was the funny part, because the range is like, where I don't like to go. I like to go play golf. So I hate going to the driving range. So it just. It just tied in some funny parts as part of the team logo.
- [108:36]
Pat McAfee
And you talked about some mental stuff. What was that? I assume golf is a tough game. I was a punter, obviously, kicker in college. A lot of in between the years. I think pitchers experience a similar type thing. It's a lot of.
- [108:47]
Bubba Watson
Or shooting a free throw.
- [108:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, free throw. It's a lot of in between the years. Is that what you're talking about, mental stuff?
- [108:51]
Bubba Watson
100%. And what I. My struggle was, I was putting. I was putting when I played golf, and 24 hours of golf Channel when I was playing golf and I'd shoot bad. It made me think of that's. They were judging me as a person, you know, because I shot 75 or I. Or I double bogeyed the last hole to lose or triple bogey one of the holes. And so I was letting that define who Bubba Watson was. And so I was going the wrong way. It took many years. It didn't. It wasn't overnight. It was started from like 2000, we'll say 2009, all the way up to like 2014. And I went from 200 pounds to 160 pounds. So I went to the doctor, I did all these tests, and the doctor said, there's nothing wrong with you. And I said, well, there Is look at me. And it was just anxieties and stress were eating me alive, and I was just. I was eating foods. I wasn't changing my diet, but I was losing weight. That's when we realized I was just battling anxieties and stress and letting golf dictate who I was as a person.
- [109:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Control your happiness, the outcome of something that might be out of your control in this entire thing. Did you have imposter syndrome out there? You think that led.
- [109:57]
Bubba Watson
I faked it. You're saying no.
- [109:58]
Pat McAfee
Do you think imposter syndrome is. Whenever you. You basically think to yourself, I don't deserve what I am currently doing right now, you. You start to question whether or not you're supposed to be where you are for sure, 100%.
- [110:09]
Bubba Watson
You. You. You think about all.
- [110:10]
Pat McAfee
I had that. I want to let you know. I had that as a punter. I have that on a very regular basis in this current life. It is something I think a lot of people battle with.
- [110:17]
Bubba Watson
I think we all do it right, especially as men, because men don't want. The first thing I had to do is when I fell to my knees, when I finally realized I have to change. I went to my wife. In 21 years of marriage, I had to go tell her the truth. Right? Like, I mean, I. She knows everything about me, like, 98%, you know, like. And so. So you have to tell her the truth, who you are. You're weak. You're not this man, this great man that everybody thinks you are or you think you are. You're weak. And so I had to go and talk to her and share her my true feelings and my thoughts. And then I'd go talk to Teddy. Teddy was on my bag at that time. Now it's better gig with. With Scheffler, but I think everybody goes through it, brother.
- [110:55]
Pat McAfee
Right?
- [110:55]
Bubba Watson
And so that's what I'm saying, I think. Think, as in men in general have that problem.
- [110:59]
Pat McAfee
Come on. Way to battle. Yeah, that's not easy, man. No, that is not. Especially in the sport of golf. I've actually given up the game. So is Connor.
- [111:06]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [111:07]
Bubba Watson
I don't know. You got that new swing now.
- [111:09]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [111:09]
Bubba Watson
Whatever that elbow thing was. That was. I got a pull, brother.
- [111:13]
Pat McAfee
I got a pool, bro.
- [111:14]
Bubba Watson
Oh, my God.
- [111:16]
Darius J. Butler
You got a video.
- [111:17]
Pat McAfee
I watched that video. Good social right out of the pocket. Thank you.
- [111:21]
AJ Hawk
Aj, aj, no pull slot.
- [111:23]
Bubba Watson
You got to get in the slot.
- [111:24]
Pat McAfee
Here and whatever the hell that is.
- [111:26]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, what? Yeah, whatever that is.
- [111:28]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [111:28]
Bubba Watson
You guys, you don't pull with this, man. This is the. I'm. I'm even showing you. Righty. And. And this is what you come through with this. Just going to react to it.
- [111:36]
Pat McAfee
God, I hate this.
- [111:37]
Ty Schmidt
Thought you had it.
- [111:38]
Pat McAfee
I thought I figured out. Watch this. Look at this. Look P. Put it up back here. Look at it. Just like me.
- [111:43]
Bubba Watson
They're pulling. Yeah, but what's leading it? The shoulder. That front shoulder is leading it all.
- [111:47]
Pat McAfee
So I'm pulled. I made up a pulling like when I'm. When I'm accent.
- [111:51]
Bubba Watson
Don't do that. Go. Put. Put them wrists down a little bit. Yeah, it's too far out.
- [111:55]
Pat McAfee
I see. What, what's the. What's the.
- [111:59]
AJ Hawk
The golfer. Yeah, yeah. With Japanese.
- [112:05]
Pat McAfee
The shallow swing. Have you ever seen this guy?
- [112:08]
Darius J. Butler
He's Instagram.
- [112:10]
Bubba Watson
You haven't told me a name yet.
- [112:11]
Pat McAfee
Wow. That's the issue. I kind of.
- [112:15]
Ty Schmidt
Some Japanese guy.
- [112:15]
Pat McAfee
He's a Japanese guy.
- [112:16]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [112:17]
Pat McAfee
Okay. He's at a driving range, which is.
- [112:19]
AJ Hawk
Not just a driving range. Mountain.
- [112:20]
Pat McAfee
Beautifully lit, gorgeous. And then every time he. He just has this nice, smooth, just like easy swing. And it's a draw shot every time. This guy. Yeah, he's so cool. And he says, just do the shallow swing. It's like, I'm trying, brother. Okay. I watch every video you got. I watch this PGA Tour 1. I need to pull that thing into here. Bubba, you want no lessons. No lessons, no less. So you think that's potentially a part of the problem that you were having because I think you rely on your fundamentals in the high pressure moments.
- [112:48]
Bubba Watson
No, I think if you look at. If you look at the greatest golfers.
- [112:52]
Pat McAfee
Right.
- [112:52]
Bubba Watson
I think that they have something unique. Arnold Palmer. You're not going to teach Arnold Palmer swing. You're going to teach Jack Nicklaus swing. Scotty Scheffler. You're not going to teach that. And I think some of the. Some of the. There is some robots, we'll call them robots on golf swings. Nick Faldo was one who was very good. He could get in that robotic mood and just play golf to the best ability. But like Scotty Scheffler, I mean, he's moving everywhere. His feet are dancing everywhere. But you're not. You don't teach that. That's kind of self taught. But then he's worked on the fine details.
- [113:23]
Pat McAfee
We are wrapping up here on ESPN. We'll continue on YouTube, ESPN + Disney + with Bubba or an absolute legend. And remember Tom Cruise on tomorrow Bubble got bumped to today for Tom Cruise tomorrow.
- [113:35]
Bubba Watson
Yep.
- [113:35]
Pat McAfee
Everybody understands. Be a friend. Tell a friend Something nice might change your life. Goodbye. All right. We're still alive. Obviously. Okay, so what do I need to work on, you think? I don't want to quit the sport entirely. Okay. I like the sport. At one point, it was my goal to work enough all the boys can become rich. Got a bet I can disappear? Yeah, I got a 30 year bet. This guy. I got a 30 year bet with this guy. 30 year.
- [113:55]
Ryan Clark
Bubba thinks about that. Yeah.
- [113:57]
Pat McAfee
He owes me 10 million bucks. I make the cut 50.
- [113:59]
AJ Hawk
I thought it was 20. Yeah, that.
- [114:00]
Ryan Clark
I think it's 50 now.
- [114:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you're right. Yeah. All of this, you're 100% right. 100 million. This guy owes me 50 million bucks if I can make the cut at a Senior PGA event. So I got, what, 30 years or whatever to make that happen. What do I need to work.
- [114:15]
Bubba Watson
How old are you now?
- [114:16]
Pat McAfee
38.
- [114:17]
Bubba Watson
Okay.
- [114:18]
Darius J. Butler
Gotta make cut.
- [114:19]
Pat McAfee
Gotta make cut.
- [114:20]
Bubba Watson
If you do that, whatever, that wing thing. But a Champions Tour doesn't have a cut, so that's good.
- [114:26]
Ty Schmidt
Good point.
- [114:26]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [114:29]
Pat McAfee
Give me an exemption, brother.
- [114:32]
Ryan Clark
You get top 20 of a champions Event, then you go, then you can.
- [114:34]
AJ Hawk
That's different.
- [114:35]
Pat McAfee
We never said that. Never said that, brother. But what is 40? What is the number one thing you see amateur golfers doing that you think to yourself, like, doofus, like, this is. This is so simple. Like what? I know you. I don't know how often you get to play. Maybe pro Ams or something like that. You get to see.
- [114:51]
Bubba Watson
I play all the time at home with amateurs. Oh, yeah. I play with the members all the time. I love it.
- [114:55]
Pat McAfee
What is the biggest. Obviously I hit a massive slice of it.
- [114:58]
Bubba Watson
The biggest thing is chipping and putting. That's what changes the game.
- [115:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. My putt. My flask is the worst. But.
- [115:04]
Bubba Watson
But nobody.
- [115:05]
Pat McAfee
But what. What do you think about when you're putting?
- [115:07]
Bubba Watson
Just wants to go put and chip. They want to hit the driver.
- [115:10]
AJ Hawk
Amen.
- [115:10]
Bubba Watson
We want to hit it hard, right? We want to fly it. Yeah.
- [115:13]
Pat McAfee
Get far, too. Yeah. I won't hit that thing long.
- [115:16]
Bubba Watson
Exactly.
- [115:17]
AJ Hawk
Talk about good wood.
- [115:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Great wood. Big wood. You're telling me I need to put a little bit more.
- [115:23]
Bubba Watson
Yeah. Putt and chip. That's where the. That's where you're gonna lose the most strokes. You're only hitting the driver, at most 14 times. So you're chipping and putting a lot more than that. You're putting, what, 30 times at best. So you gotta practice putting and chipping.
- [115:35]
Pat McAfee
We're putting a lot more than that, Bubba.
- [115:36]
Bubba Watson
Well, I was trying to give you something.
- [115:38]
Pat McAfee
Now we're putting a lot more than that. D Bud has a question for you.
- [115:41]
Darius J. Butler
We kind of talked about it. The, the team aspect.
- [115:43]
Bubba Watson
Yes.
- [115:44]
Darius J. Butler
And I don't know specifically through your journey how many teams you played on golf up until that point, but how long did it take you to get used to that? Because golf is such an individual sport, most of us play team sports up here and some of those days when you may feel like, or you don't have your best stuff, you got a teammate to kind of lean on and pick you up. So how long did it take you to get used to that aspect on a professional level?
- [116:04]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, so it's, it's interesting. High school golf is team. You have five guys, four scores count. So then when you go to college, same thing, five guys, four, four scores count. And so I've, I've been at every level I played on the team. And then Ryder cup and Presidents cup are our two biggest events throughout the year. And so for me, when they brought this to my attention about how people are following teams and, and that's where sports are going, it was a no brainer for me. And then it go back to the mental side. For me it was, I get to help people. When I'm done playing and somebody's taken my spot and I'm still the owner, captain and overseer of this team, I get to lay into these boys, trying to teach them, try to help them. Right now Matthew Wolfe's on my team who went through some struggles and so I've been able to put my arm around him and talk to him and show him even younger than I went through it, he's even younger, so he's 26 years old. So I get to try to help him going, going forward. The team aspect, I know that now I'm playing for the guys next to me, so I'm going to not pout as much. I'm going to try to save as many strokes as I can. It might be a, it might be a one over that day or over par that day, but it might be better than somebody else. So I've got to lead by example and show that I'm not a quitter and I'm going to fight through even my struggles. But then at the same time, you're watching three other guys and hopefully you're watching them and you're watching learn from them or want to battle with them. Especially our team championship at the end of the year is when you're where it's match play. So, yeah, you don't want to let them down. And now golf, finally, it's like football. The guy next to you, if he's working 100% and you're working 100%, your team has a chance to pull it out or win that day.
- [117:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Team Rider Cup's always been sweet to watch. Golf aspect. And the idea, who's up, who's down? Who knew? Who do we need? Everybody rallying around it. And I think that was a fascinating thing whenever Liv launched that, like, hey, we're going to make a solo sport, a single sport, into a team sport as well. We think it'll be fun. Then, obviously, the music, I don't love it, the music, but I appreciate what it is. It's like a sign of, like, hey, you can do golf differently. Then, obviously, the shorts, I think that was wild.
- [118:11]
Bubba Watson
We went away from shorts, by the way, Pants. Only pants now. And golf, unless it's over 90 degrees, but then it's still subjective. So basically, pants.
- [118:19]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so we went to the pants. So we're still evolving, trying to create this, which is kind of what Debunch was saying in the entirety. We're not at the finished product of liv. From what you understand of the inside workings of liv, this is going to be. We got Runway for this thing to continue to grow 100%. So the live PGA negotiations that have been chatted about, I don't know how much you know. I'm not going to ask you to be on the inside of a massive negotiation, international negotiation, with a lot of political play and, well, as well. But do you think LIV would need a PGA partnership to continue, or is Liv saying, we're going to continue for the next 10 years?
- [118:51]
Bubba Watson
Regardless of what happens, Liv is here to stay. Liv's not going anywhere. The people behind LIV is. Is. It's not going anywhere. You're looking at changing culture. You're looking at changing the game itself. America is a. Is a small piece of our world, and golf is global. And golf. Golf is getting global more and more. So we're going to places that the PGA Tour is not or European Tour is not. So we're trying to show golf in different areas. It's just like soccer or football is now played in the United States. We never really watched it until now. You know, now it's shown on espn. We're watching, you know, the Euro cup and all these different things. So it's just sports is going global now, and so we're not battling the PGA Tour. The PGA Tour is here to Stay as well. Our Viewer. We have 30% of our people that show up to our events are. Have never been to a professional golf event. So that means we are growing the game outside of the PGA Tour or outside of our country. And so that's what we're doing. We're trying to just show it in different light and get more people to watch and play. And that's kind of what we're doing. And it's global and not just America.
- [120:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I appreciate that. The. You know, the mission is a lot different than how we view it, because we're just like, where the hell is this? We have no idea where we can watch this. We know there's a lot of superstars over there. We're big fans of yours. We're big fans of Brooks. We're big fans of dj. We're big fans of Rambo. We're big fans of Kham Woof. Oklahoma State kid. Yeah, okay. Big fan of him. Like, there's a lot of guys we're big fans of, but we can't find it for you guys. The mission isn't just like, hey, we need everybody in America watching this right now. Right now. Now. It's. We're trying to grow the game globally. We're trying to captivate audiences and maybe markets that haven't been touched before. And then inevitably, America's going to come is the assumption.
- [120:40]
Bubba Watson
That's the hope. That's the dream. You want it to do. You need it to. Not right now you don't, but you want it to happen. Yeah. 100% F1's what got three. Didn't have races before. Now it's got three races in the United States. We have a few events in the United States. We're coming here August.
- [120:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. August 15th through the 17th.
- [121:01]
Bubba Watson
And by the way, I'll give you a Pro Am. Y' all want to play in the Pro Am, I'll. I haven't asked anybody, but I'll make y' all playing the pro if y' all want to play in it.
- [121:07]
Pat McAfee
Hey, I think I've quit the game, but some of the boys here.
- [121:10]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, you got new swing now. You're gonna be chipping and putting.
- [121:13]
Pat McAfee
You said my swing is ass.
- [121:15]
Bubba Watson
That's why I said chip and putt.
- [121:17]
Pat McAfee
Okay. All right. Yeah. Because we need to get to the green. Okay. August 15th through the 17th, you guys are gonna come to Chatham Hills Golf Club.
- [121:23]
Bubba Watson
Yes.
- [121:23]
Pat McAfee
Which. Which is a beautiful place. I assume every course you go to is beautiful. That's why golf is so awesome. Such beautiful Views, such beautiful scenes, such a beautiful sport. Which was why my goal was to get enough money to be able to go to a place I wanted. A gated neighborhood on water, golf cartable to three different golf courses. And that was just going to be my. That was it. That was it. That was going to be my retirement. That was going to be my entire life.
- [121:46]
Bubba Watson
Is there a place like that that exists?
- [121:47]
Pat McAfee
You tell me.
- [121:49]
Ryan Clark
The villages, old people, people.
- [121:51]
Pat McAfee
That's where I'm trying to head to. That's. That was the goal. Yeah, that's in Florida.
- [121:56]
Bubba Watson
The villages in Florida.
- [121:58]
Pat McAfee
Somewhere. This exists somewhere.
- [122:00]
AJ Hawk
Puerto Rico.
- [122:00]
Pat McAfee
Puerto Rico has a place. I was there. This is basically what I've been looking for when I quit the game. So now I don't know. Now I don't know what the future is. And with your motivational tactics you just tried to give me here. It wasn't the right play. You tell me. It was asked. Was not going to challenge me to get better. It actually it was the universe telling me I need to quit sports.
- [122:21]
AJ Hawk
I agree.
- [122:21]
Pat McAfee
So me and Connor will definitely come to the Pro Am. Foxy needs to be in that, though. No, no one wants to watch me play in that. Come on. AJ needs to be. There you go. AJ's a player, dude. This guy. Actual player. Go ahead, AJ.
- [122:33]
Ryan Clark
Yeah, Bubba.
- [122:33]
Quentin Richardson
I.
- [122:34]
Ryan Clark
A question I've always had for professional golfer. Does it help to almost be dumb out there or naive to everything going on around you? I feel like that's why, you know, the weekend warrior golfer, drinks 10, 12 beers, gets catching a little buzz, and he starts playing his best golf. Like, I feel like sometimes it's very easy for people to overanalyze every single aspect of their golf shot. Is that something that professionals struggle with?
- [122:55]
Bubba Watson
100%. I think that the greats of the game know how to block everything out and focus or refocus if they get off for the first couple holes. That's one of my struggles is. Is trying to get away from all the stuff behind the. The ropes. I've been able to do it a few times, but when you get in the zone, you don't even realize what people are saying, what people are wearing or what people are doing. But most of the time I fail because I've only won 12 times on the PGA Tour, but lost 312.
- [123:26]
Pat McAfee
That's a dozen, brother. Yeah. Yeah.
- [123:28]
Bubba Watson
But I've lost, what, 300, 400 times. So mentally, I was going to do the math there.
- [123:33]
Pat McAfee
Percentage on egg.
- [123:34]
Bubba Watson
Yeah. But mentally, though, like Tiger. Tiger Woods, Corey Paven, Was my idol when it comes to mental stuff, he's an old player. I don't know if you know who that is.
- [123:41]
Pat McAfee
I know the history of the sport, pace.
- [123:43]
Bubba Watson
Exactly. And then, and then now you got Scotty Scheffler. Scotty Scheffler looks like he's just, he's not even paying attention. He's barely talking to Teddy when he's out there.
- [123:51]
Pat McAfee
So, so you are trying to lock.
- [123:53]
Bubba Watson
In, you're trying to. Because you're, it's, it's like you said, it's punters, it's pitchers. You're trying to stay in your moment and, and try to pull off that, that, that kick, that, that, that throw. You're trying to hit that swing. You're trying to get in the slot, you know.
- [124:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [124:08]
AJ Hawk
Come out of the pocket.
- [124:10]
Ty Schmidt
I want to get in that.
- [124:11]
Bubba Watson
Bam.
- [124:12]
AJ Hawk
You got that.
- [124:12]
Pat McAfee
Looks good, man. Thank you.
- [124:14]
Bubba Watson
Looking better.
- [124:16]
Pat McAfee
Bubba. I already quit the game. I don't need to hear you go ahead. Connor also quit the game.
- [124:21]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I did quit the game. No, no point to play. But speaking of like kind of getting out of that mental rut as a two time Masters champion, when you see Rory kind of get it done this year at Augusta, obviously we all saw the massive weight off his shoulders, the emotion after he finishes that grand slam. Watching it. As someone who's been through that struggle of a four day bender in Augusta trying to win that green jacket, how did you feel and is there like a community of green jackets who kind of were pumped and excited for Rory and welcomed him in to the clubhouse and everything like that? And could you relate to him, him as he did? Because I remember when you won your green jacket, it was very emotional scene as well, 100%.
- [125:03]
Bubba Watson
When I won mine, I just adopted my son, my first child, two weeks before. And then when I won, I was thinking about me becoming a dad and my dad passed away in 2010. And so just a lot of emotions of battling to get to where I was. And with Rory, yeah, it's a, it's a different kind of battle. I mean, he was up there. I mean, he was the cream of the cry. He still the cream of the crop, but he was up there, had a chance to win the Masters a few times. Yeah, I sent him a text right away, told him how, how awesome it was to see very good player, very good, talented player. And he said, I can't wait to have a locker next to yours and I can't wait for Tuesday night dinner. That was his responsibility.
- [125:39]
Pat McAfee
How much do you guys Judge how shitty the dinner is going to be by who the winner is. And is that already happening, you know?
- [125:45]
Bubba Watson
Oh, that's been. Well for me. It happens all the time. I try to eat. Eat before.
- [125:49]
Pat McAfee
Oh, so you're not worried about their day?
- [125:51]
Bubba Watson
I care what they.
- [125:52]
Pat McAfee
Oh, so this one was good. This past year, Scotty's.
- [125:54]
Bubba Watson
Scotty has the sliders, so it's got an appetizer. So he has the sliders. And this year he put the French fries on top of the sliders.
- [125:59]
Pat McAfee
Oh, Pittsburgh.
- [126:00]
Bubba Watson
Oh, yeah. So I. I was. I was eating that all up.
- [126:03]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So you're in a lot of wine, too, right? In that kind of the. The Augusta thing?
- [126:07]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, there's some guys. Yeah. That they. They provide it. Some guys drink it, some guys don't, and then some guys, because it. Because the past champion has to. He has to pay for everything. So guys are getting bottles of wine and getting him to sign it and so they can take it to their trophy case. And so it's just more money on the bill. Just.
- [126:25]
Pat McAfee
There's a. There's. I don't know. I don't know the place. There's a wine thing down in the basement.
- [126:28]
Bubba Watson
Down. Yeah, there's. Down underground. They have a lot of secret rooms around that place.
- [126:32]
AJ Hawk
Is that right?
- [126:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [126:33]
Bubba Watson
You didn't hear that from me, though.
- [126:34]
Pat McAfee
No, no, of course not. And I've never been there either. There's like some very expensive downstairs.
- [126:41]
Bubba Watson
Oh, yeah, they got some. They got some. Got some heavy duty stuff down there.
- [126:45]
Pat McAfee
They got some presidential stuff down there, I think.
- [126:47]
Bubba Watson
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got some heavy.
- [126:49]
Pat McAfee
From what I've been told, you never been there. How about the. The junior or the amateur crow's nest?
- [126:54]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, yeah.
- [126:55]
Pat McAfee
Crazy.
- [126:56]
Bubba Watson
It's right above, like, champions lockers, so. It's right above champions locker. Yeah, yeah.
- [127:00]
Pat McAfee
So you would go through there, and then you would just go up there, and then you'd walk down around.
- [127:03]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, there's four.
- [127:04]
Pat McAfee
It's.
- [127:05]
Bubba Watson
I think there's four or five beds up there, but then there's like. No. Like, it's like. It's like a dorm room.
- [127:10]
Pat McAfee
It's like a dorm room.
- [127:11]
Bubba Watson
Yeah. There's no doors. Like you're just a lot of research. Just random.
- [127:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I just heard about this.
- [127:15]
AJ Hawk
Well, that Bennett kid. When. Bennett. When the Bennett kid was in it a few years ago, we.
- [127:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's how we learned about. There's a card game up there, too. What's the card there? They have, like, a table set up for a car.
- [127:23]
Bubba Watson
I wasn't good as an amateur, so I never got to stay up there.
- [127:25]
Pat McAfee
Have you ever gone up there?
- [127:26]
Bubba Watson
I've been up there, but I've never like stayed up there.
- [127:28]
Pat McAfee
I think a Manning, the one that played for New York, destroyed a toilet up there.
- [127:32]
Ty Schmidt
Okay. I think so.
- [127:34]
Bubba Watson
They. This year, I do know this year the amateurs got out of there on Tuesday. They stayed like Monday night. Tuesday night. And then they got out like they, then they go stay somewhere else.
- [127:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. The twin beds.
- [127:45]
Bubba Watson
Yeah. It's not, it's not comfortable. And then you want to go stay with your family. It's your first masters as an amateur and all these things. So you want to go stay with your family and friends.
- [127:52]
Pat McAfee
I do think Liv talking about staying in the week before lead up brought a lot of light to what life was like in a PJ Tour before Liv. That I don't think any of us knew about.
- [128:02]
AJ Hawk
Nope.
- [128:02]
Pat McAfee
About how much you can lose money basically, if you, even if you're a big star. And then I think was it Jordan's dad did some rating.
- [128:09]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [128:10]
Pat McAfee
The bonus.
- [128:11]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [128:11]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [128:12]
Pat McAfee
Because they're like not making a cut, losing a bunch of money, but showcasing your downfall basically every Thursday and Friday so that the ratings would go up so the PJ Tour would be making money. It was like a one way contract.
- [128:22]
AJ Hawk
Basically move the needle bonus.
- [128:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. There. That was basically what it was like.
- [128:25]
AJ Hawk
That is essentially.
- [128:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And if you were featured and how much and you get a bonus at the end of the season and everything like that.
- [128:31]
AJ Hawk
Social clips of, of shots, like if it was you and they went and it had a bunch of impressions or views or whatever the hell a statistician.
- [128:39]
Pat McAfee
Or something like that.
- [128:40]
Bubba Watson
Top 10 got paid that.
- [128:42]
AJ Hawk
Bingo.
- [128:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We had no idea that PJ was like a one way road, though. Like I, I.
- [128:47]
Bubba Watson
My last year on the PGA, I was top 10. I got a, I got a little bonus.
- [128:50]
Pat McAfee
Hey, Bubba must watch. That's because his pink driver will be out there. We know this, that the boy was going to be sending some big time big shots. But I didn't know that was what the PGA Tour was for so long. Obviously everybody's lucky to be a professional golfer and they feel that, but we had no idea. Like big stars potentially losing thousands, tens of thousands of dollars whenever they're not making a cut. We just assumed that that was a part of a contract in that entire thing. So I think that was good whenever Liv came out. And I think that PJ Tour has changed because of that. I didn't know that Was your guys life in the PGA Tour. Yeah.
- [129:19]
Bubba Watson
So you don't, you don't. You have to prove to earn right like you to make your money. And so I know of a player now, a caddy, Paul Tesori. I probably shouldn't have called him out, but he played on the PGA Tour. He went to University of Florida, got his PGA Tour card, missed every cut. 17 cuts in a row he missed. So he never made a dollar that year. So think about if you're, if you're at. Let's, let's just make up a number back then or $1,500 a week to your caddy back then and then your hotel, I mean, you know, your flights, your food. If you have a trainer, if you have a coach, I mean you're, you're back then you're probably five, five, six, anywhere from five to $10,000 down. So 17 weeks of $10,000 down. I mean you're in debt.
- [130:04]
Pat McAfee
You're like, congrats, you're a professional golfer. Yeah. You've lost $200,000 on the season.
- [130:08]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [130:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That was crazy to learn about. I think that is something that live kind of change golf for the future, for the professional golf. The elevated events that started taking place with the more prize pools were good. Do you feel, is there a sense of pride by you live guys that that has happened?
- [130:23]
Bubba Watson
Well, I mean for me, you. He was asking about the team earlier. For me, I wanted to, I wanted to do something different. I wanted to be an entrepreneur and for me to have a franchise. It's a golf franchise. I mean it's a dream come true to be able to be in the sport like that and own a franchise. So yeah, I mean I take pride in being able to, to think outside the box and do something different. And if it does help the PGA Tour players, great. Nobody's trying to hurt the PGA Tour players. Nobody's trying to hurt professional golf. We're, we're trying to help professional golf and grow it around the world. And so yeah, it's, it's, it's definitely better than it was for the PGA Tour players.
- [130:58]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [130:59]
Bubba Watson
But it's still top heavy. I mean the guys that are, you know, now there's only what, 70 or 75 guys keep their tour card instead of 125. So there's things that they've changed, positive and negative on all fronts. Same thing with live. We've changed things positive and negative. We're trying to figure it all out.
- [131:16]
Pat McAfee
Q school still happen or no. And what does live have. That's like that? Because I know there is a.
- [131:21]
Bubba Watson
We have. We have guys fall off. There's four or five. Four, I think now six guys fall off our. Our. Our league. And so if you don't finish in the top 48, you fall off our league. There's a qualifier as of right now where one spot gets on to live, and PGA Tour has a qualifier.
- [131:39]
Pat McAfee
So, like, let's say, for instance, Okay, I hit this golf sim up here.
- [131:43]
Bubba Watson
Okay. So you're back into golf.
- [131:45]
Pat McAfee
This is a hypothetical.
- [131:46]
AJ Hawk
For instance.
- [131:47]
Pat McAfee
It's a hypothetical Bubba slot. But let's say I figure out that slot, you know, I hit that shallow, far from the deep end, chipping and putting right down there. I can win a tournament and be.
- [131:59]
Bubba Watson
In the live league 100%.
- [132:01]
Pat McAfee
Do you guys test for weed for you?
- [132:04]
Bubba Watson
No.
- [132:05]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Okay. Maybe we do have a path. Maybe we do have a path to professional golf in this entire thing. I think, like, the US Open, Right. There's a qualifier for it. Yeah, I was like that. Like, Because I watched that break. Make it. Break it. It was on Golf Channel.
- [132:20]
Ty Schmidt
Big break.
- [132:20]
Pat McAfee
Big break. Yeah, I used to watch that. I love that.
- [132:23]
Bubba Watson
Tony Finau.
- [132:24]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [132:25]
Bubba Watson
Was on the big break.
- [132:25]
Pat McAfee
Really?
- [132:26]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [132:26]
Pat McAfee
You break some glass. I mean, the controlling. I love that. But I also love the fact that, like, you got an opportunity. Yeah, go do it. But then people would lose their cards, and then they get back in there.
- [132:36]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [132:36]
Pat McAfee
Feels like a grind. Let's talk about the schedule of the PGA and what your life was like now live. Obviously, Dustin Johnson spoke about it. Hey, it's less work, more money. Like, that is clearly a business model for Dustin Johnson and part of his decision making. You guys are on the road Tuesday through, hopefully, like, Sunday. How does that work?
- [132:53]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, there's no more cut, so we're there for the whole week. But I try to go in on Monday to get practice because nobody's out there. Even if I'm traveling overseas, I try to get in there a little bit early now that my. My kids are older. So now my kids come out and go to the tournaments with me. They're allowed on the range with me. They're. They're allowed to do whatever. I'm the owner of the team, so they're allowed to come ride with me wherever I want to go.
- [133:17]
Pat McAfee
Jerry Jones.
- [133:17]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, exactly. I mean, hey, our team sucks, but we're trying.
- [133:23]
Pat McAfee
We got a great logo.
- [133:24]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, exactly. The logo is the key. And so, you know, I. I love it. We're. We have time off. PGA Tour quit having time off. We started going year round. And so being able to spend time with my kids and watch them play sports is a dream come true. And they love watching me play golf. My son's getting old enough now he can walk all 18 holes and follow me. And so it's a blast out there, like going to Spain and London. We're going to stop over in Rome, let him see Rome for a couple days, and wow, I love it. But now, going back to the PGA Tour schedule, there was 40 events for me. You pick. You pick your top 20 courses you believe fit your game. And so then you can do that. But now on live, it's tougher because you got 14 weeks. You have to play in all 14. No matter if all courses suck for you or off courses are good for you. You have to change your game and try to figure out your game and how you can play and attack each course, even though it might not be the courses you want to play at. And on the PGA Tour, out of 40, you can find some that you can play well and perform at so you can keep your card.
- [134:26]
Pat McAfee
Okay. You said you walking your oldest or walking the court? What happened to hovercraft?
- [134:31]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [134:32]
Pat McAfee
What happened to the hover thing?
- [134:33]
Bubba Watson
Insurance.
- [134:34]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah.
- [134:35]
Bubba Watson
That's dangerous. That thing's dangerous.
- [134:37]
Pat McAfee
Hard to stop.
- [134:38]
Bubba Watson
No, it stops quick. That's the problem. No seat belts. Yeah. Nine inches of air. So when you let off the gas, that thing just drops and it just digs in the ground. It's a paperweight. If you're over water, you better not let go.
- [134:49]
Pat McAfee
You're going on.
- [134:49]
Bubba Watson
You better. You better keep holding that gas.
- [134:51]
Pat McAfee
How so the golf boys. Is that what it was?
- [134:54]
Bubba Watson
I think golf boys. Yeah.
- [134:55]
Pat McAfee
What a time.
- [134:55]
Bubba Watson
I'm thinking about going solo. I've been thinking about this. I still have my overall balls.
- [134:59]
Pat McAfee
You look great in them.
- [135:00]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [135:01]
Pat McAfee
Do you still have the hovercraft?
- [135:02]
Bubba Watson
I can. I can probably pull it out of the garage.
- [135:04]
Pat McAfee
Do you got any bars? Because didn't you guys sing and rap in this?
- [135:07]
Bubba Watson
Oh, yeah.
- [135:07]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. You've been writing songs.
- [135:10]
Bubba Watson
I've always got ideas in my head. Remember I told you I got mental issues? I got. I got. There's all these things.
- [135:15]
Pat McAfee
That was a great moment. Golf has been fantastic. You've been one of the trailblazers of a tie. Has a question for you.
- [135:19]
Ty Schmidt
Speaking of courses that kind of fit your style going back to Augusta, do you feel like anytime you show up there, are you in the mindset? Like, hey, I have a chance to win this week. Like, I always look at a guy like, boom, boom, couples who, you know, no matter how old he gets, come Saturday, he made the cut. He's one under now. He's getting older, so he might, you know, shoot 78, 80 on Saturday and Sunday. But when you go back to Augusta, no matter how you're playing, do you always feel like, hey, if I. If I have it going, you know, early here, like, I have a shot to win another green jacket 100.
- [135:51]
Bubba Watson
And Freddy is my example. Every. You'll see Freddy's name somewhere on that leaderboard the first couple days, and maybe he wakes up too early and he can't tee off at 2 o' clock the next day. That's his nap time. But he, you know, he. He's always up there, right? And so I always believe there's not much rough there. So I believe I can hit crazy shots and get out of the trees. This year is the first time ever I led the field in putting, and it happened to be at the Masters this year. I've been working hard on my putting and. And changing things, but I can remember, remember four shots that cost me anywhere from six to eight shots. And those would, you know, I'd be. I'd be about second place, third place somewhere in there and challenging for the.
- [136:29]
Pat McAfee
And that's golf, isn't it? I'm happy to hear you go through this as well.
- [136:31]
AJ Hawk
Crazy.
- [136:32]
Pat McAfee
That's golf right there. If I didn't hit it, that probably.
- [136:35]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [136:36]
Pat McAfee
And that changes because that is golf. But it's.
- [136:38]
Bubba Watson
It's like we talked about, Rom. If that ball hits soft or. Or a little bit more to the. The right on 17, he might tap in, birdie. And now we're. It's a whole different animal, right? But it's. It bounced into the water, and so it's the same thing. I hit a ball in the water on 16. I hit a ball in the water on 13 on my drive. So those are the two that I know of. But there's four swings that I went back and looked at that that cost me a chance for a. Top three are battling for. For a win.
- [137:03]
Pat McAfee
See, what you just said is why me and Connor quit the sport.
- [137:05]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, exactly.
- [137:06]
Darius J. Butler
No, come back, boys.
- [137:07]
Pat McAfee
I mean, there. There's a chance that I can get back in a league. I. I didn't know there was a chance I could get into a professional golfer. You know, I'm in. Professional wrestler, professional soccer player, baseball. Professional football player, professional baseball player.
- [137:20]
Bubba Watson
Wwe.
- [137:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, right.
- [137:22]
Bubba Watson
It's going global now.
- [137:23]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah, it always has been.
- [137:24]
Bubba Watson
Okay, but think about if. If the NFL network only showed 10 NFL teams, right? Like, we're. We're talking about a global sport. So PGA Tour is. Is America. And Liv is trying to go worldwide. I mean, every sport now is going worldwide because there's other opportunities out there. Football's going in Germany now. Mexico.
- [137:44]
Pat McAfee
Germany had like 2 million people waiting. A million people waiting.
- [137:47]
Bubba Watson
That's what I'm saying. And golf is. People are waiting.
- [137:49]
Pat McAfee
I saw that Australia clip. Right? Wasn't that Australia?
- [137:52]
Darius J. Butler
What's the. What's the best stop you've been on? That's kind of surprised you.
- [137:55]
Bubba Watson
Adelaide is getting. Is bigger and bigger. I mean, we're. We're at a 50, 000 people a day. I mean, and you're just. We're talking about, like. We're talking about the road ropes. Some of the ropes are on the fairway. I'm like, how am I gonna hit this fairway? I'm gonna hit these people. But they just.
- [138:09]
Pat McAfee
I think Australians are down with it. Yeah.
- [138:11]
Bubba Watson
They love their sport down there, and all they want to do is shoeys. I just want to win. So I could do a shoey. I don't want to do a shoe, but I just want to win.
- [138:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. For the people to do a shoe. Yeah. It's very nice. You're one of the guys. I just got shown a video that I did not know existed. You had a jet pack as well. We're talking about the hover. You had a jet pack.
- [138:27]
Bubba Watson
It wasn't legal in the United States.
- [138:29]
AJ Hawk
States.
- [138:29]
Bubba Watson
Just for the record.
- [138:29]
Pat McAfee
So internationally.
- [138:31]
Bubba Watson
I think we. They tested it in New Zealand.
- [138:34]
Pat McAfee
Is that you? That's not you?
- [138:36]
Darius J. Butler
Tom Cruise.
- [138:38]
Bubba Watson
I do my own stunts, guys. I eat popcorn. I literally eat.
- [138:42]
Pat McAfee
So does Tom Cruise. Tom Cruise. Bubba.
- [138:47]
Bubba Watson
There was no butter on that popcorn. You could tell that was fake.
- [138:50]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [138:50]
AJ Hawk
Don't need butter.
- [138:52]
Bubba Watson
You're a butter guy. I can tell you.
- [138:54]
Pat McAfee
I did it.
- [138:54]
AJ Hawk
I get butter this morning. But. I am a. But butter guy.
- [138:56]
Pat McAfee
He was having popcorn at 7:30 this morning in honor of Tom Cruise. Amen. Okay, so I have a little bit of respect. I didn't know you were in a jet pack. These exist.
- [139:06]
Bubba Watson
It's illegal in the United States. Let me make sure I say that again. It's illegal.
- [139:10]
Pat McAfee
Did you feel safe in that? Did you fly in it?
- [139:12]
Bubba Watson
No.
- [139:12]
Pat McAfee
I feel.
- [139:13]
Bubba Watson
I'm scared of everything. I play golf for a living. I walk for a living.
- [139:16]
Ty Schmidt
That seems pretty easy getting in and out of that thing for every shot.
- [139:19]
Bubba Watson
You have it's not about the golf. It's more about the look.
- [139:23]
Pat McAfee
Right.
- [139:24]
Bubba Watson
It's style.
- [139:25]
Ty Schmidt
You're right.
- [139:25]
Bubba Watson
You got to.
- [139:25]
Pat McAfee
I tell you what, you have a helmet on, take a helmet off, pull.
- [139:28]
AJ Hawk
The club, get a hole y amusement.
- [139:31]
Bubba Watson
But at the same time, hard to.
- [139:32]
Pat McAfee
Land in the trees where at the.
- [139:34]
Bubba Watson
Same time you want to do it right.
- [139:35]
Pat McAfee
Definitely. I've been looking for a jetpack for years.
- [139:38]
Bubba Watson
You'll play golf again. If that was the case.
- [139:40]
Pat McAfee
You know what? Maybe too old. If I. If I could throw. If I could throw the ball, maybe that is what I would do. That thing ain't going to be able to land where I am. I just talked about the trees. That ain't gonna be. That's a fairway golfer. Good for you.
- [139:52]
AJ Hawk
But you take a drop, I mean, certainly you fly that thing over the.
- [139:55]
Pat McAfee
Green, I would hit a little club.
- [139:57]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [139:58]
Pat McAfee
Out of the sky, let that thing drop down like one of those. You know, whenever they do the ball drop on the green at those. Yeah. That's what I would be like. Bubba, you're an innovator, brother. The brain always going. I love that you're running your own business. Good for golf. Let's head over to Hammer Dodge. Tom Diggs has a question for you.
- [140:16]
Connor
Yeah, Bubba. There's been a lot of talk about on our show about the difference between regular season and playoff and the atmosphere for that. And then there was a lot of talk at Quail Hollow kind of that it's a regular season PGA stop, you know, And a lot of people were upset that a regular season PGA stop was. Was a major course. What is the main difference between a regular season event versus a major as far as the course go and the atmosphere goes? And then the upcoming. Our hometown. We got Oakmont coming up. How's the setup for Oakmont?
- [140:48]
Bubba Watson
Well, I. First of all, they're going to change the course a little bit. They're going to set it up tougher. They added TE's. I mean, there was a bunch of holes over 500 yards, which I thought was silly. Number nine was one of the toughest holes they play on the regular season. And then to add, I think 40 or 50 yards was crazy. The rough is up, the greens are firmer, tougher pin placements. So they're going to trick it up as much as they can. But then the atmosphere, the knowing what it is going into it. You're trying to win a major for the first time, second time, third time, whatever it is, the media hype behind it is, is really where it just Starts going in your head and your energy level and you start getting pumped up. But yeah, they definitely trick the course up as much as they can. I mean, is that how you guys describe it?
- [141:35]
Pat McAfee
Trick it up?
- [141:35]
Bubba Watson
They trick it up, yeah.
- [141:36]
Pat McAfee
I mean, it's putting these trick pins in his. But it's.
- [141:39]
Bubba Watson
I mean, it's the only sport we keep changing the. The field, right. If there's no other sport, you're not. You're not changing. Three point line is the only thing we've changed in what, 50 years of basketball. So, you know, pebble beach plays at the same place, but pebble beach, When it's a U.S. open, nobody says, ah, it's just a regular. It's Pebble Beach. I mean, it's hard as can be when they set it up. And I think that's. That's the same thing they did with, with Charlotte. Oakmont is. Oakmont is crazy. Even on a regular day. Oakmont with the rough up. I finished fifth there in 07 when Angel Cabrera won. And the rough was. I mean, the rough felt like it was a foot deep. There was nothing.
- [142:19]
Pat McAfee
Pittsburgh, brother. Yeah.
- [142:20]
Bubba Watson
There was nothing you could do. And now there's no trees there. Like, they've changed the trees. You can see the whole golf course now. But they're still going to have the high rough without. Without rain. It's going to be firm and fast like Lynx Golf, but then with high rough. So, yeah, they're gonna. Like I said, they're gonna. We call it tricking it up. They're gonna put the pins in crazy places where you're gonna have to. Missing the green sometimes is better than hitting the green because of the. The chip's gonna be easier than a long putt.
- [142:45]
Pat McAfee
We knew these majors were tricking, weren't we? They were out there tricking it up. Bubba, you said you've been working on your putting and then there. Potential pro am here at Chatham Hills Golf Club, August 15th through the 17th live golf event. Welcome to Indiana. By the way. I don't know where Chatham Hills. Is that in Indianapolis?
- [143:04]
Ty Schmidt
I have no idea.
- [143:05]
Connor
I think, I think Carmel.
- [143:06]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, up north.
- [143:08]
Pat McAfee
Nice area.
- [143:08]
Bubba Watson
It's for us. It's. It's here. It's in Indiana. Indianapolis.
- [143:13]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Indianapolis.
- [143:15]
Bubba Watson
It's close enough.
- [143:16]
Pat McAfee
It's nor. It's north of Indianapolis in Westfield. Okay, Westfield.
- [143:20]
Bubba Watson
Just for the record, there will be goats on the driving range for you. We always bring goats like Chicago and now we're here, so we're going to bring some goats in. So we have a Petting zoo on the golf course. Oh, man.
- [143:31]
Pat McAfee
Little miniature goats or your full size goats?
- [143:34]
Bubba Watson
I think they're all small, right? But no, there is miniature. We had miniature in Chicago.
- [143:38]
AJ Hawk
You guys should sacrifice.
- [143:40]
Pat McAfee
Okay, maybe I'll get turned around here, joined by some.
- [143:44]
AJ Hawk
Some goat meat, slit one throat for a victory drink.
- [143:48]
Pat McAfee
Some of the butt lamp.
- [143:51]
Bubba Watson
In Adelaide, we had. On the sixth hole, we had like, you know, there's a party hole. And then on the sixth hole this year was like the. The family, the kids, party hole. And we had, I think we had 12 goats. So there was like a petting zoo of goats. And so that was their party hole. The kids.
- [144:06]
Pat McAfee
Wow.
- [144:07]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [144:07]
Pat McAfee
So you guys are trying to make it.
- [144:08]
Bubba Watson
Yeah. So we met the Range Goats. We brought it out ourselves and we.
- [144:11]
Pat McAfee
How do you feel about the music? How do you feel about the music?
- [144:14]
Bubba Watson
I think I live you. You've been to some events live, I think it's okay on tv. It doesn't, it. It doesn't mesh well on tv. If there's a way to get tv, no music, but live, it's fine.
- [144:25]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, you've been to a few of them for sure. I mean, the environment, I feel like it's kind of more upbeat, you know, Good vibe. Yeah, it's younger. You still. Yeah, you're around the golf, you still respect, you know, that 10 off and doing his putting and shit. But like, let's go off a lot. They got little stations set up in different places for different vibes, different setups, concessions or whatnot. But I, I like that. I enjoy it. I'm a guy that's new, newer to golf. I got into golf like two, three years ago, so it was great for me to just have another option. Obviously, I want to see the best players playing against each other every week, but it's definitely a different version of golf. And it's kind of how I play golf. I'm out with the boys, we got speakers, we're drinking, we're doing our things. Definitely different. Different vibe for sure.
- [145:04]
Pat McAfee
Definitely. I. I can't golf without music, personally. Yeah, can't.
- [145:09]
Bubba Watson
But you hate music.
- [145:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I just don't want to hear. I love DJ Khaled. Yeah. I don't need him screaming, we the best. As somebody is trying to, you know, make a. A tournament winning putt, it doesn't translate to tv. That's the issue. It's hard for me to be like, oh, this is serious, when it's my playlist being played while Rambo Bombo's about to throw his club In. Into the dam. You know, it's just. I think there's a couple things that golf has gotten right. Like. Hey, golf has gotten right. But I do like that they're exploring the space and we're trying to kind of make it bigger. And what you think about tgl? Did you watch?
- [145:45]
Bubba Watson
I thought it. I thought it was good. I. I'm interested to see how season two will go because they added the.
- [145:50]
Pat McAfee
Motor City machine guns. That's right. Oh, yeah.
- [145:52]
Bubba Watson
But not till 27.
- [145:53]
Pat McAfee
Oh. So they're saying it's going to be two more years. They got to get the team together.
- [145:57]
Bubba Watson
League's going to be around for that. It might not even pop up, so.
- [146:01]
Pat McAfee
Well, that's what we were saying, actually. I was. I was pumped that it got another season.
- [146:05]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [146:06]
Pat McAfee
Whenever I heard Motor City machine guns are going to get a team, that's the name. Yeah.
- [146:10]
Ty Schmidt
Tentatively.
- [146:11]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
- [146:13]
AJ Hawk
It was like the Motor City Hot Dogs or something dumb like that.
- [146:16]
Pat McAfee
No, you're talking about the Weenie Mobile.
- [146:17]
Bubba Watson
It's got a year. It might change. Who knows? Yeah.
- [146:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But I didn't know it's 2027 because I heard 2020 next season is what I thought. I'm like, congrats to tgl. We got another year is what I thought. You're saying. They're saying we got at least two more years of this, which I think is good. I enjoyed it. I think it had a lot of. I think it had a lot of opportunity. Is that how you're feeling?
- [146:35]
Bubba Watson
But, yeah, I think that it had great opportunities. It had a. It had a great concept. I think that. But how are we going to do it if it's the same in the same building in the same shots? And I heard rumor they're trying to build one somewhere else right now, but if it's in the same area, same shots, how are we going to change it up?
- [146:51]
Pat McAfee
And.
- [146:52]
Bubba Watson
And, like, I'm a part of it. How are we going to change it up? But golf.
- [146:55]
Pat McAfee
We will say we.
- [146:56]
Bubba Watson
I would go. You might have to get some celebrities in there, see some shanks. I mean, you gotta. You gotta try to get something in there. Golfers that are not as good. You want some shanks in there? You want to. I mean, Tiger shanked one, I think, Right.
- [147:08]
Pat McAfee
Got bladed one early.
- [147:11]
Bubba Watson
Not Billy Ho, brother. Best TGL player of all time.
- [147:14]
Pat McAfee
Won a championship.
- [147:15]
Bubba Watson
Hang his tarp.
- [147:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he did.
- [147:16]
Ty Schmidt
They do need to have more than one course, though. You're right. Yeah. It's the same shot, like, so. Viewing it Week after week. It's like I've seen them do this shot.
- [147:25]
Pat McAfee
What do you want to do? Put windmills in front of the thing?
- [147:27]
Ty Schmidt
Sure.
- [147:27]
Bubba Watson
Be better or.
- [147:28]
Pat McAfee
Or pick some bumps. Like, actually that would be a good idea. Randomize and make it like a putt. Putt operation. Like, can you even get to the screen to get to the course?
- [147:37]
Bubba Watson
And I was worried. I was really worried about technology. How is technology going to, you know, work instead of have glitches? But I think it works. Worked pretty well.
- [147:45]
Pat McAfee
Our sim is the worst.
- [147:46]
Bubba Watson
Yes.
- [147:46]
AJ Hawk
There's not even a sim. It's just a screen.
- [147:49]
Pat McAfee
It's just. I just hit into a blank screen.
- [147:51]
AJ Hawk
A blank campus.
- [147:52]
Pat McAfee
Don't even turn the computer on because I know it's not going to work. Is that all yours is.
- [147:55]
Bubba Watson
No, mine's good at the house.
- [147:56]
Pat McAfee
That's because you got that money. Now let's talk. Let's talk a little bit about August 15th through 17th as LIV Golf makes its debut in Indianapolis, Indiana.
- [148:05]
Bubba Watson
I think y' all should go live out there. Just do this show live out there.
- [148:09]
Pat McAfee
Bubba, you're a businessman, as am I. There's a chance. Okay. There's conversations are open. We are, we are open for.
- [148:14]
Bubba Watson
We're starting a conversation today.
- [148:16]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Crown Prince, God bless him, would also like to talk to him.
- [148:20]
Bubba Watson
I just now like live golf and music. Music is great.
- [148:25]
Pat McAfee
You know, not bad, actually. Morgan Wallin's new album, just running right through 37 of them. 37 songs, actually.
- [148:34]
Bubba Watson
35.
- [148:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [148:35]
Bubba Watson
I remember correctly. Somebody yesterday said 35. Yeah, I watched the show, guys.
- [148:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think it's actually 36 because.
- [148:40]
Bubba Watson
I thought there was a, an intro.
- [148:42]
Pat McAfee
There is not. There's just an interlude. So it's 36 songs. All of them are currently on the whatever, the top 50, top 100, whatever it is. Good for him. Absolute wagon. Shouldn't he just. I don't know, just as a business person, we could save some of these, can't we, for another album?
- [148:57]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Maybe three albums.
- [148:59]
Pat McAfee
People are putting out like eight song albums.
- [149:01]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [149:01]
AJ Hawk
Probably tour this for the next 20 years, though.
- [149:04]
Pat McAfee
I agree, and he probably will. But if he was to put out a 20 song album, people would be like, like, holy, this guy's got 20 songs. Old buddy just put out seven songs last week and thought it was a big deal. And then he could drop a 17 song album on the back end of that. I just think because of how he's. He sings and how he. I think he just is gonna pump out maybe a thousand. Is he gonna Have a thousand bangers. Is that what the goal is?
- [149:28]
Ty Schmidt
I mean, I guess because he's young. Yeah.
- [149:31]
Pat McAfee
And just like golf. You can do that. Yeah.
- [149:33]
AJ Hawk
He's on his way.
- [149:34]
Pat McAfee
You can do that long. He's gonna have a thousand bangers.
- [149:36]
Ty Schmidt
There's gonna be demand too, you know? I mean, people will listen to this album, but then in like, two years.
- [149:41]
Bubba Watson
It'S gonna be like, but what if his next album only has, like nine?
- [149:44]
Pat McAfee
But that would be a normal ass album.
- [149:46]
Bubba Watson
Exactly. You're gonna be like, well, where are the other ones?
- [149:48]
Pat McAfee
Hey, brother, we didn't. You're missing 30 songs here. But he. There's a chance he has a thou. Think about the song catalogs that people are selling right now. People are getting like 200, 250 million for their catalogs, 300 million for the catalogs. If he has 500 songs that are all bangers.
- [150:02]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, that's.
- [150:03]
Pat McAfee
He's gonna be really. Congrats, dude. Congratulations. Keep pumping out 37. I mean, just. Yeah, 37 hits. I don't know how he does it now. Speaking of hits, I very rarely hit the green, but if I get to the green, I can't putt for shit. We put this in here to try to tempt me into becoming a better putter. Okay? It's right here. Walk across it every single day. Get some putt. To your point. I hate it. I don't do it because there's seven balls out there. I'll miss every single one. You should not, though, Bubba. If you make five, got a lefty putter.
- [150:39]
Darius J. Butler
That's fair.
- [150:39]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [150:40]
Pat McAfee
Is five a good number, you think?
- [150:41]
Bubba Watson
Gotta be a ping. Do you have a ping?
- [150:43]
Pat McAfee
We don't have a ping.
- [150:45]
Bubba Watson
Lifetime. Deal with ping, man. I gotta use ping.
- [150:48]
Pat McAfee
You gotta deal with ping.
- [150:50]
Bubba Watson
What is the lifetime? Make sure you say lifetime.
- [150:52]
Darius J. Butler
Lifetime.
- [150:53]
AJ Hawk
That's awesome.
- [150:54]
Pat McAfee
All right, how about this?
- [150:55]
Ty Schmidt
Will you be able to put with the undoffable?
- [150:57]
Bubba Watson
I'll just put with a wedge.
- [150:58]
Pat McAfee
I bought this. What is that?
- [150:59]
Bubba Watson
The alien wedge?
- [151:00]
Pat McAfee
I was watching the golf fix. Thank you very much. Had pool tubes. It was underneath my pool noodles, underneath my arms. It was 2:15am and they put the unduffable on the screen. I said, I duff all the time. I'm gonna buy that. Guess what you can do with this?
- [151:13]
Bubba Watson
Three easy payments.
- [151:14]
Pat McAfee
You can. Well, yes. And also you can duff. Bye. Bye. I've. I've accomplished the impossible mission.
- [151:21]
Bubba Watson
Did you get your money back?
- [151:22]
Pat McAfee
No.
- [151:23]
Bubba Watson
You're about to say mission impossible. Sorry, man.
- [151:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's why you need to Stop with.
- [151:27]
Bubba Watson
I did stop. Because he didn't eat the popcorn.
- [151:29]
AJ Hawk
He did.
- [151:30]
Bubba Watson
No, he did. Let's watch it again. Put it. Cue it up.
- [151:33]
Pat McAfee
Hold on. So you literally can't pop without a. Do we have a. I don't think.
- [151:37]
Ty Schmidt
We have a ping lefty putter, though.
- [151:40]
AJ Hawk
We do have a lefty putter.
- [151:41]
Darius J. Butler
My life's down due. Boom on bright. Ping. On it.
- [151:47]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, just bleep it out.
- [151:49]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [151:49]
Pat McAfee
Boom. Five. You think five. I don't know. You want to roll one and then.
- [151:57]
Bubba Watson
These golf balls right here.
- [151:58]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they're painting golf balls.
- [151:59]
AJ Hawk
Just nice shoes.
- [152:00]
Pat McAfee
All about the money.
- [152:01]
Ty Schmidt
Those are sick.
- [152:02]
Pat McAfee
Those are sweet. Yeah.
- [152:04]
AJ Hawk
Damn.
- [152:04]
Pat McAfee
Do you want to calibrate one first or do you want this to count?
- [152:08]
Bubba Watson
Let me see.
- [152:11]
AJ Hawk
Count it.
- [152:12]
Ty Schmidt
Smooth butter man.
- [152:14]
Pat McAfee
All right. Okay.
- [152:15]
Darius J. Butler
Smart. Let's see.
- [152:15]
Pat McAfee
He said. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You gotta make.
- [152:21]
Bubba Watson
You want me to keep going.
- [152:25]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Tone, Diggs and Hammer downtown just said. Do you gamble with Phil?
- [152:29]
Bubba Watson
Do I?
- [152:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [152:30]
Bubba Watson
I don't gamble.
- [152:32]
AJ Hawk
Smart.
- [152:32]
Pat McAfee
I like that. I like that. I like that a lot. I like that. Play a lot.
- [152:37]
Bubba Watson
This is easy.
- [152:38]
Pat McAfee
This is easy. Okay. How about this thing?
- [152:40]
Ryan Clark
Why?
- [152:45]
Darius J. Butler
Over here.
- [152:46]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Oh, it's the unduffable. Please have a little respect for.
- [152:50]
AJ Hawk
It's righty.
- [152:50]
Pat McAfee
He said. I'm going to give it to Duffel. Okay, so there's five balls there. What is a good number here for you to make three with this? What?
- [152:58]
Darius J. Butler
No way.
- [152:58]
Pat McAfee
Chipping.
- [152:59]
AJ Hawk
Chipping.
- [153:02]
Pat McAfee
Oh, okay. So two, you got. All right, you gotta go two out of these next four. Here you go. Two out of there. Hold on, bubba. Hold on. Chase in a groove. Darius is going to be at the Pro Am, I assume, at Chatham.
- [153:12]
Darius J. Butler
Absolutely.
- [153:13]
Pat McAfee
AJ will also do the Chatham Hills Golf Club pro am. Right, A.J. i'll do it. Yeah. We're making decisions for live right now.
- [153:20]
Bubba Watson
Yep. Oh.
- [153:24]
Pat McAfee
Oh, no. Oh. I was gonna say, if you make two out of this final four, I'll play in the thing, but. Yeah, great news. All right. Nope. Well, we're not growing the game. Thank God. I don't have to play that thing. I quit the game. I quit the sport. Yeah, I was gonna have to, actually.
- [153:44]
Bubba Watson
This tougher wedge sucks.
- [153:45]
Pat McAfee
No, it's not the wedge. It's unduffable, too. Have a little respect. I bought that off the Golf Channel, okay? They wouldn't put that on the Golf Channel if it was. Wasn't the real deal. Yeah, I'm happy to see you suck with it, too. I. I suck with it? You suck with it. We whack the wood Exactly. Defense.
- [154:04]
Bubba Watson
All about defense.
- [154:05]
Pat McAfee
All right, Bubba, thank you for coming out here. You're going to a Fever game tonight.
- [154:08]
Bubba Watson
I hope so.
- [154:09]
Pat McAfee
Is that tonight?
- [154:09]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, it is tonight. Yeah.
- [154:11]
Pat McAfee
She's electrifying. Oh, yeah.
- [154:13]
Bubba Watson
It's unbelievable. She stepped so I. I believe she's. My wife played in the wnba. She played four years pro basketball. But it. Steph Curry, She's Steph Curry. She's doing things. She's running, she's hitting shots. She's hitting half court shot or just inside half court shots. At ease. I have to like heave it to get it that far.
- [154:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And her teammates are awesome, too. This year the team is like. Yeah. Leah Boston, obviously great. Kelsey Mitchell. Dwana Bonner.
- [154:36]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [154:37]
Pat McAfee
I think she just became a record.
- [154:39]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [154:40]
Ty Schmidt
Third all time leading scorer.
- [154:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. They got a good team. New coach. Stephanie White, I believe his name. She's from Indiana.
- [154:44]
Ty Schmidt
From Connecticut. Connecticut.
- [154:45]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [154:46]
Ty Schmidt
Connecticut. Son, former head coach.
- [154:47]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Now she's from Indiana. She's back here coaching team. It's like. It's like. I think the. It's worth. In that place will be packed out.
- [154:54]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [154:54]
Pat McAfee
Place. Every place that she goes to, packed out. She's like the Beatles. She is literally Beatles.
- [154:59]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [154:59]
Pat McAfee
They're going to bigger venues so that she can come to town now. Congrats to wnba. I hope you have a good time tonight because you sucked with the unduffable. I am not committing to anything in August and that's great news. But D Button AJ will definitely be there. Bubba.
- [155:10]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [155:11]
Bubba Watson
Perfect. Let's do it.
- [155:12]
Pat McAfee
All right.
- [155:12]
Bubba Watson
That'd be more fun with them anyway.
- [155:14]
Pat McAfee
Off, Bubba. Hold on, Bubba.
- [155:21]
Darius J. Butler
Unduffable.
- [155:23]
Ryan Clark
Oh, here it is. Get the slot.
- [155:24]
AJ Hawk
You should just blast one.
- [155:26]
Bubba Watson
There it is. Would be kind of so far, right?
- [155:29]
AJ Hawk
You should. You should just blast one.
- [155:33]
Bubba Watson
You won't.
- [155:38]
Ryan Clark
Try to hit this camera. It's looking right at you.
- [155:43]
Pat McAfee
Right?
- [155:45]
Bubba Watson
You show me.
- [155:47]
Pat McAfee
That.
- [155:48]
Bubba Watson
Hey, that swing you just did would be so far.
- [155:50]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. You want to miss left. You don't want to miss right. You're here.
- [155:54]
Bubba Watson
You're here with it. You got to come who.
- [155:57]
Quentin Richardson
You're.
- [155:57]
Bubba Watson
You're here with it. You got to come across your body. Gotta get the hips to move, man. They look tight.
- [156:12]
AJ Hawk
Aim for the net now.
- [156:13]
Darius J. Butler
You got it. Just see it?
- [156:14]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [156:16]
Ty Schmidt
Right into the crow's nest.
- [156:17]
Pat McAfee
Where are you going with it?
- [156:18]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, crow's nest.
- [156:20]
AJ Hawk
Try to go over that camera.
- [156:21]
Bubba Watson
All right.
- [156:21]
AJ Hawk
I'm zoomed out of the camera. Yeah.
- [156:23]
Darius J. Butler
Okay. Oh, that's easy.
- [156:28]
AJ Hawk
Malarkey.
- [156:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah.
- [156:30]
Ty Schmidt
Just blast it.
- [156:34]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, yeah. Send this Thing.
- [156:39]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, my gosh.
- [156:41]
AJ Hawk
Boom.
- [156:42]
Ty Schmidt
That was a heck of a shot.
- [156:43]
AJ Hawk
Good straight.
- [156:44]
Pat McAfee
Good contact.
- [156:45]
Bubba Watson
Dad.
- [156:45]
Pat McAfee
Did not. No, you don't know me.
- [156:47]
Darius J. Butler
You don't know me.
- [156:48]
Pat McAfee
That's the unduffable.
- [156:49]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, and it works.
- [156:51]
Darius J. Butler
Tight line, too.
- [156:52]
AJ Hawk
I don't see a hole either.
- [156:53]
Pat McAfee
Maybe I'm back. When's the qualifier for you? When's the qualifier for you guys?
- [157:01]
Bubba Watson
It's in December.
- [157:02]
Pat McAfee
All right. I got time.
- [157:04]
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
- [157:05]
Pat McAfee
That's going to be tough. What day of the week?
- [157:08]
Bubba Watson
Monday.
- [157:08]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Before Monday Night Football in December. Playoff football. I qualify for a golf league. Let's go, foxy. Let's go. Is it still raining outside? Still raining outside. Oh, yeah.
- [157:19]
Bubba Watson
You're not a golfer if you're worried about the weather. Weather, man.
- [157:21]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so we got two holes out back. Thanks. Can't wait to see you hit them. Yeah. Can I ask Bubba on that?
- [157:25]
Bubba Watson
You got a golf course across the street, too?
- [157:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [157:28]
Bubba Watson
Who's got a question? Sorry.
- [157:29]
Pat McAfee
Foxy does. I'm sorry. Yeah. This is actually a selfish question. On that note, Bubba, let's say you're 75 yards out, all right? Pretty straight shot, pretty simple, straightforward. How many balls is it going to take you to make one shot? Because I've been doing this for about eight months back there and I can't.
- [157:45]
AJ Hawk
Make a single one longer than that.
- [157:47]
Bubba Watson
Well, I mean, there's so many factors, actors. It was gonna take. It's gonna take me. What? How long you been trying to do it?
- [157:52]
Pat McAfee
Eight months, let's say.
- [157:53]
Bubba Watson
I'm gonna say four for me, then.
- [157:54]
Pat McAfee
Four months.
- [157:55]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [157:56]
Pat McAfee
I thought one day.
- [158:01]
Connor
How many hole in ones do you have?
- [158:02]
Pat McAfee
You're known for being a dog.
- [158:03]
Bubba Watson
Six.
- [158:03]
Pat McAfee
Six hole in ones. In competition or in practice?
- [158:07]
Bubba Watson
Total? A couple in competition, but total is six. First one is how old it was 2010.
- [158:13]
Pat McAfee
When did you start playing?
- [158:14]
Bubba Watson
When I was six.
- [158:16]
Pat McAfee
Jesus. I got no shot. No, I've got six since he's six years old. Bruce.
- [158:22]
Ty Schmidt
Bruce had one his first year of playing.
- [158:24]
Bubba Watson
My dad could barely break a hundred and he had one with a three wood from 189. Sliced the three wood in there and he used to run his mouth to me all the time about how I got a hole in one.
- [158:35]
Darius J. Butler
Did it count? On par? Three courses.
- [158:37]
Bubba Watson
Yeah. Council. Anytime you make a hole in one.
- [158:40]
Pat McAfee
Sim.
- [158:41]
Bubba Watson
Honest. Yeah. Because the sims are hard to make one. You made one on a sim? Fist bump.
- [158:46]
Darius J. Butler
X Golf.
- [158:47]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations.
- [158:50]
Bubba Watson
Where was it at?
- [158:51]
Darius J. Butler
Video, actually. Oh, here. Noblesville. X Golf.
- [158:54]
Bubba Watson
X Golf. Yeah, yeah, I know about it.
- [158:56]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [158:56]
Darius J. Butler
Pretty solid.
- [158:56]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. He's Actually an investor in Expo Bubba.
- [158:58]
Darius J. Butler
Told me it counts.
- [159:00]
Pat McAfee
Definitely does. What if you're just hitting a hundred shots from one tee box at a hole? Is that more of a chip in or a hole in one?
- [159:07]
Bubba Watson
No, that. That. Well, if it's not a real golf course, it doesn't count as though it.
- [159:11]
Pat McAfee
Is a real golf course. Thank you. Please. It's outside back here. Thunderdome golf course. Two holes, one T box.
- [159:16]
Bubba Watson
We get tired after two, we gotta.
- [159:18]
Pat McAfee
Well, and we're not walking to. Here he is. Here he is. Here he is. That was yesterday.
- [159:26]
Bubba Watson
Was it really?
- [159:26]
Pat McAfee
Yes. Every day he has one of those. Golf gods are not blessing old fox. No, not at all.
- [159:31]
Bubba Watson
How many out here?
- [159:33]
Pat McAfee
Small bucket is about 50 balls green.
- [159:36]
AJ Hawk
Those greens got craters and it looks like the fake moon.
- [159:38]
Pat McAfee
I think the turf needs grass. Sand.
- [159:41]
Ty Schmidt
I'll get rust on it. We need to get those trees.
- [159:43]
Pat McAfee
Guys. Names Russ Green. The Hands of the Green. Celebrity greens. He's great. He came out here two days, had the boys on it. We really got. We got two back.
- [159:49]
Bubba Watson
Gosh.
- [159:50]
Pat McAfee
We got two back here. Bubba.
- [159:51]
AJ Hawk
That's this.
- [159:51]
Bubba Watson
I know. I saw him when we came in.
- [159:53]
Pat McAfee
All right, quick. So you're gonna hit something. Sweet. You have your clubs?
- [159:55]
Bubba Watson
No, but I can. Yeah, I think I do. Actually. We just landed, so. Yeah, I got them.
- [160:00]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [160:01]
AJ Hawk
Boom.
- [160:02]
Pat McAfee
That's where we're headed. Look for a video here in a matter of moments of Bubba. Probably put one in here if I had to guess. Quick predictions. Tonight's games. NHL Panthers. Hurricanes.
- [160:13]
Bubba Watson
Panthers.
- [160:14]
AJ Hawk
Yes.
- [160:16]
Pat McAfee
Timberwolves. Thunder.
- [160:17]
Bubba Watson
Oh, my gosh. This is a good one. I don't want to say it, but I'm going to say it. I think it's going to be Timberwolves.
- [160:23]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
- [160:24]
Pat McAfee
Okay. That's in Oklahoma City. Yeah.
- [160:26]
Bubba Watson
Oh, Anthony Edwards is. He is a beast.
- [160:30]
Pat McAfee
He's a dog.
- [160:30]
AJ Hawk
He's a real deal.
- [160:31]
Bubba Watson
I'm not saying that Oklahoma City doesn't have a dog, but he is. This guy's on fire.
- [160:36]
Pat McAfee
He's.
- [160:36]
Bubba Watson
I'm telling you, he's kin to Michael Jordan somehow.
- [160:38]
Pat McAfee
He's awesome. He look alike and they play.
- [160:41]
Bubba Watson
They jump alike. They. There is.
- [160:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he is. And he's. He's. He is an old school player. You know, you talked. J.R. smith talked to us. Golfer J.R. smith. Yeah, he's trying to.
- [160:50]
Bubba Watson
Went back to Copper.
- [160:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. He's in college currently. He's a senior. He's captain of the team. I think he's trying to get down to a zero. He said by the end of the season he'll probably Be scratch golfer or whatever, try to qualify for the US Open. He absolutely loves the game. He said for Anthony Edwards, like they need to just let him do mid range, take to the rack, do whatever the hell he wants as opposed to overcoaching him. He's like an old school player. I think that's why all the OGs love Anthony Edwards. And I think that's why we competitors, athletes love Anthony Edwards too. It's like he's a dog. He can lead that team. Yeah, but I don't call him a city place.
- [161:19]
Bubba Watson
Randall's not too bad either though. Randall's helped him out. Randall's helped him out quite a bit.
- [161:23]
Pat McAfee
Let's go to the Knicks fan, Matt Brown. Hey, Bruce, how do we feel about Julius Randall playing for the Minnesota Timberwolves?
- [161:29]
Quentin Richardson
Absolutely love him.
- [161:30]
Ryan Clark
He's one of my favorite Knicks players of all time.
- [161:33]
Pat McAfee
He came here when no free agents.
- [161:35]
Ryan Clark
Wanted to go to the New York Knicks and he basically built us into.
- [161:38]
Pat McAfee
What we are today.
- [161:39]
Quentin Richardson
Wish nothing but the best for him.
- [161:40]
Ryan Clark
And I, I do think that as a number two option behind an Edwards.
- [161:44]
Pat McAfee
They can take the Thunder to, to seven games and maybe get it done. Okay, we got even a prediction from Bruce. I like that. I like everything about that. How do you feel about Pacers, Nicks?
- [161:53]
Bubba Watson
I'm going Pacers and the reason why.
- [161:55]
Pat McAfee
I'm going Pacers, 15th live event out here. Boom.
- [161:57]
Bubba Watson
Because of cuz Hal Burton is. Is unbelievable. Like it's unorthodox, it doesn't look right, but it's. It gets done.
- [162:05]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [162:06]
Bubba Watson
Yeah. It's unbelievable.
- [162:06]
Pat McAfee
He's flashy. Yeah, Flashy runs. Showman doing. He's got merch@wwshop.com right now, but it reminds me of.
- [162:14]
Bubba Watson
Oh gosh, Sean Marion. Remember when he used to shoot three pointers? It didn't look right, but he's like, yeah, he would make it. That's about what it looked like.
- [162:22]
Pat McAfee
Good shot.
- [162:23]
Bubba Watson
That's what it looked like. He made it happen right here.
- [162:25]
Pat McAfee
Hope you're happy, bubba. That's on you.
- [162:28]
Ty Schmidt
I can't believe that happened.
- [162:32]
Darius J. Butler
More Cat Williams, I think.
- [162:34]
Pat McAfee
All right. Bubba knocking those down. Yeah, he's got check, check back, chest pass, splash. Believers. Cat shooter or cat Williams is a shooter.
- [162:45]
AJ Hawk
He's really.
- [162:46]
Pat McAfee
Yes, yes. You better watch he comes to golf. When's that thing? December.
- [162:49]
Bubba Watson
Did you lower the goal?
- [162:50]
Pat McAfee
No, he's Williams.
- [162:52]
Bubba Watson
He got him up there. Yeah. Isn't he short? Yes, that's why I was just asking. That's a fair question.
- [163:00]
Pat McAfee
No, it's not. Cat Williams is a. Is a beast. He was with Lethal, you know, lethal shooters.
- [163:05]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, Bubba content creator.
- [163:08]
Pat McAfee
He's. He would put bucket. He would make a. He. He makes, like, little gummy bears into, like, the top of water bottles. That's how good of a shooter he is.
- [163:20]
Bubba Watson
Really?
- [163:20]
Pat McAfee
Yes. Real deal. You should look him up.
- [163:22]
Bubba Watson
I'm gonna look him up.
- [163:22]
Pat McAfee
Lethal shooter.
- [163:23]
Bubba Watson
Lethal shooter.
- [163:24]
Pat McAfee
He should focus on golf. I think he'd probably be able to figure that out.
- [163:28]
AJ Hawk
Sounds like it might be too late.
- [163:29]
Pat McAfee
Who's. Who do you think is best sport that turns into golfers? Naturally. Hockey players, I think very good shooters. In basketball, normally pretty good.
- [163:37]
AJ Hawk
Baseball.
- [163:37]
Bubba Watson
Yeah. Baseball. Baseball pitchers.
- [163:40]
Ty Schmidt
Smoltz.
- [163:41]
Bubba Watson
Yeah, Smolty. Yeah.
- [163:42]
AJ Hawk
They're always in it at Tahoe.
- [163:44]
Bubba Watson
They always have time off. They grow, what, once every two weeks.
- [163:47]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, good point. Yeah.
- [163:49]
Pat McAfee
Here's lethal shooters. Last one toothpick into a straw. I understand it now. He misses on purpose, then he makes. Oh.
- [163:56]
Darius J. Butler
So second try.
- [163:58]
Pat McAfee
It's always I understand it now.
- [164:00]
Darius J. Butler
Impressive.
- [164:00]
Pat McAfee
Dane does it.
- [164:01]
Bubba Watson
That's unbelievable.
- [164:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Lethal shooter. Welcome to the world. And we're gonna go do a trick shot out back where you're gonna make a 75 yard shot. Oh, yeah. In the rain, in the wind. You're not a real golfer.
- [164:10]
Bubba Watson
First take.
- [164:11]
AJ Hawk
Boom.
- [164:11]
Ty Schmidt
That'd be awesome.
- [164:13]
Darius J. Butler
That would be so cool standing now.
- [164:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. A.J. you think first take for Bubba?
- [164:18]
Ryan Clark
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't know what the conditions are like there, but I assume he can work it out.
- [164:22]
Pat McAfee
It's drizzling. It's a little breezy.
- [164:24]
Bubba Watson
It was gusted when we came in. Today.
- [164:25]
Pat McAfee
It's Indiana. You need to know that for August 15th through 17th. It's going to be windy here. Yep, Always windy here in Indiana. I was a punter drafted out here.
- [164:33]
Bubba Watson
Oh, you were?
- [164:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So played for the Colts, punting a lot of wind. Did not know that when I got here, it was just.
- [164:40]
Bubba Watson
Was it indoors.
- [164:41]
Pat McAfee
So we had a dome possibility. But Jim Mercy like to showcase also that he take that top off and the window off. So it actually became a wind tunnel. So I was considered a dome punter by other punters and kickers, but we potentially had the worst setup in all of football for about three quarters of the season. So I got the dome in December, which was phenomenal. Great news. But it's always windy in Indiana because how flat it is.
- [165:06]
Bubba Watson
So it created the eddy effect. The wind.
- [165:09]
Pat McAfee
Is that what that's called?
- [165:09]
Bubba Watson
Yeah. So at Augusta, when it comes down 13 and goes to 12 and 11, creates an eddy Effect. So, like, sometimes you feel it's downwind and then seconds later, it's into the wind. So that's probably what happened.
- [165:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Eddie came into Lucas Oil fucking every time they open that side window.
- [165:24]
Bubba Watson
Exactly.
- [165:25]
Pat McAfee
The Eddie effect was all about that thing. Is that amen you're talking about?
- [165:28]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [165:30]
Pat McAfee
You ever hit all in, one downer?
- [165:32]
Bubba Watson
No, I made one. I made one on a practice round on 16, but I've never made one. One in the tournament. Made one in the par three tournament.
- [165:42]
Quentin Richardson
Yeah.
- [165:42]
Bubba Watson
Well, yeah, it's in the tournament. There's a trophy and everything. It counts.
- [165:45]
AJ Hawk
Hell yeah.
- [165:46]
Pat McAfee
I agree. Yeah.
- [165:47]
Bubba Watson
My son. It was 67 yards, hole four. My son goes, dad, you don't have that shot. One hopped it and knocked it in. I said, hey, I got it now. And he goes.
- [165:57]
Pat McAfee
Just a dramatic. Yeah, he's like, he needs to do that every hole.
- [166:00]
Bubba Watson
Exactly.
- [166:01]
Pat McAfee
We need to get off the badge. Dad, dad, this ain't it. That's the worst hole. They're forcing you to play this course. It's not good for your play. All right, let's get out of here, bubba. We appreciate you boys, great work today. Aj. Great work. Tone, over there in Hammer, great work. Boys in the back. I can't wait to go watch him hit these balls. Please make one, baba. I can't wait to watch this.
- [166:20]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, those greens.
- [166:22]
Pat McAfee
Tough greens, bud.
- [166:23]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, they're barely green.
- [166:25]
Pat McAfee
Tough greens. All right, be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're in a send together team on me.
- [166:31]
Bubba Watson
Oh, I didn't know I was part of the team.
- [166:34]
Pat McAfee
You are, buddy. Aren't you trying to promote team stuff anyways. Team on me. You have anything to say?
- [166:39]
Bubba Watson
No. Go goats.
- [166:41]
Pat McAfee
Go goats.
- [166:42]
AJ Hawk
Go goats.
- [166:43]
Bubba Watson
Yeah.
- [166:43]
AJ Hawk
Sacrifice one or two. Or two.
- [166:47]
Pat McAfee
No, it. 10 of them. Yeah, whatever gets the goats on top. That happens. Team on three. One, two, three. Team goodbye.