PMS 2.0 1349 - Eastern Conference Finals Game 4 Recap, JJ Watt LIVE In Studio, Quentin Richardson, Peter Schrager, Cornell Lacrosse National Champion CJ Kirst, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk - The Pat McAfee Show

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The Pat McAfee Show – Episode PMS 2.0 1349 Summary

Release Date: May 29, 2025

Introduction

In Episode 1349 of "The Pat McAfee Show," host Pat McAfee, alongside co-hosts AJ Hawk, the Toxic Table, and Tone Digs, dives deep into the exhilarating world of sports, focusing prominently on the NBA Eastern Conference Finals. This episode is enriched with insightful commentary, expert opinions, and unexpected appearances that add layers of entertainment and expertise to the discussion.

Eastern Conference Finals Game 4 Recap

The centerpiece of this episode is the detailed analysis of Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals between the Indiana Pacers and the New York Knicks. The Pacers have surged ahead, leading the series 3-1, and Pat McAfee shares his firsthand experience attending the game live at Gainbridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis.

Pat McAfee recounts the vibrant atmosphere: “Getting a chance to sit second row, but also courtside at the same time... It was a magical night.” [03:43]
The Pacers' dominant performance is highlighted, with key players like Tyrese Halliburton and Pascal Siakam showcasing exceptional skills. Tyrese's ability to facilitate and score, coupled with the team's depth, has been pivotal in Indiana's success.

Special Guest: J.J. Watt LIVE in Studio

A standout moment in this episode is the surprise appearance of J.J. Watt, the legendary former NFL defensive end. Pat enthusiastically introduces Watt, lauding his achievements and community contributions.

Pat McAfee: “He's been drafted in the first round of the Houston Texans... the greatest player in franchise history.” [01:48]

During the show, Watt shares his experiences watching the Pacers-Knicks game, including an unexpected moment where Pat was handed a microphone during the fourth quarter for a live promo. This segment adds a humorous twist while highlighting Pat's impromptu on-air antics.

J.J. Watt: “Has anybody been handed the money mic in the fourth quarter of a playoff game before? Like a fan? That's unbelievable.” [08:32]

NFL Contract Dynamics and Player Relations

The conversation shifts to the intricate world of NFL contracts, specifically focusing on Trey Hendrickson and the broader implications of contract negotiations and player satisfaction.

Pat McAfee discusses the importance of managing contracts proactively: “If you take care of things early, especially when players want to take care of things earlier and say that they'll take less money...” [46:35]
J.J. Watt emphasizes the significance of mutual respect and timely contract settlements to maintain team harmony and player motivation.

Team Depth and Coaching Strategy

A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the Indiana Pacers' team depth and the strategic acumen of their coach, Rick Carlisle. The team’s ability to have multiple players step up, ensuring no single point of failure, is lauded as a key factor in their impending Finals run.

Darius J. Butler: “Rick Carlisle has been a championship coach and a very good coach in his league for a long time... he has extension from himself as far as Tyrese Halliburton.” [35:10]

Western Conference Finals Briefing

While the primary focus remains on the Eastern Conference, the show briefly touches upon the Western Conference Finals, mentioning the Oklahoma City Thunder's promising performance against the Minnesota Timberwolves.

AJ Hawk: “Big game. Big must win game for the Timberwolves coming up...” [29:58]

Audience Interaction: Hashtag Ask JJ

The episode features an interactive segment where listeners submit questions via the hashtag #AskJage. Topics range from humorous inquiries about Pat's on-air moments to more serious discussions about player performance and team strategies.

Pat McAfee: “Hashtag ask Jage... How many people call you Jage on the day to day, would you say?” [158:33]
J.J. Watt responds candidly, adding personal anecdotes and maintaining the show’s lighthearted tone.

Highlights and Memorable Moments

Pat McAfee shares a nostalgic recount of a previous game where he inadvertently handed a microphone to attendees, leading to unexpected and memorable moments on air.
The chemistry between Pat, AJ, and guests like J.J. Watt and Darius Butler creates an engaging dynamic, blending expert analysis with relatable humor.

Conclusion

Episode 1349 of "The Pat McAfee Show" masterfully combines high-stakes sports analysis with entertaining and spontaneous moments, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts. From the Indiana Pacers' dominate performance in the Eastern Conference Finals to insightful discussions on NFL contracts and team strategies, the show delivers comprehensive coverage infused with Pat McAfee’s signature humor and energy. Special appearances by personalities like J.J. Watt further enrich the episode, offering unique perspectives and memorable interactions.

Notable Quotes:

Pat McAfee on J.J. Watt’s legacy: “He'd become the greatest player in franchise's history... phenomenal at tackling quarterbacks.” [01:48]
J.J. Watt on handing Pat the microphone: “Has anybody been handed the money mic in the fourth quarter of a playoff game before? Like a fan? That's unbelievable.” [08:32]
J.J. Watt discussing contract management: “If you take care of things early...” [46:35]
Pat McAfee reflecting on team depth: “We have a plethora of... feels like Oklahoma City too deep, right?” [32:54]

This comprehensive summary captures the essence of Episode 1349, highlighting key discussions, expert insights, and the entertaining flow that "The Pat McAfee Show" is renowned for.

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[00:00]
Pat McAfee
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this superstar Wednesday, May 28, 2025. This program begins now. Sports are happening all around us and let's just get right to it. You saw the massive creature that is sitting on the stage that refused to say anything once the beat dropped. Which is a. Okay. Because I've heard he's a great teammate. We shall see today the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. What a treat it is today to have what a legend with us here on the Thunderdome stage.
[00:31]
AJ Hawk
Unbelievable treat. I you're talking about turning just a dreary Wednesday into arguably maybe the greatest collective day of our lives.
[00:38]
Pat McAfee
Superstar Wednesday, of course.
[00:39]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[00:40]
Pat McAfee
Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is sitting where normally 1/2 of the Hammer Don Cowboys AP tone seats sits. And that's because we got a surprise guest that flew in here to Indianapolis, Indiana.
[00:51]
AJ Hawk
Just shocked as soon as the door flew open. We just felt this presence wouldn't be a Superstar Wednesday without the superstar Superstar.
[00:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you're right. The superstar of all superstars. Your super. Your favorite superstar's favorite superstar. That's right, ladies and gentlemen joining us. I don't know all the accolades. Okay. We did not write them down.
[01:07]
AJ Hawk
No, no, we did not.
[01:08]
Pat McAfee
He's been defense player year before. He's MVP before he. The guy obviously is a hero. He saved a city legitimately. Raised over $40 million for the city of Houston and didn't do it because, you know, he wanted to glitz and the glamour. Did it because he felt obligated to do as such because he was the representative of the city of Houston for so damn long as he was the first round draft pick for the Houston Texans. They actually booed his ass out of town craz. Drafted in the first round of the Houston Texans. They say, who is this white from Wisconsin? Get this guy the hell off our team. What would he end up doing? Well, he'd become the greatest player in franchise's history. He'd become a man that was not only phenomenal at tackling quarterbacks.
[01:49]
Peter Schrager
Oh man, he's so good at it.
[01:50]
AJ Hawk
120 plus.
[01:52]
Pat McAfee
Wow. So many of those future first ballot hall of Famer because of what he did on defensive side. Plus I get twisted on the offensive side too. He's catching touchdowns.
[01:59]
AJ Hawk
Exactly.
[02:00]
Pat McAfee
And then on special teams because he's so abnormally large. Okay. He was given maximum effort, which abnormal amount of effort given at all times. Ladies and gentlemen, maybe the superhero of the superstars, J.J. watt is here.
[02:15]
Darius J. Butler
Yay.
[02:18]
J.J. Watt
Thank You. I'm great. It's great to be here. This place is unbelievable. This is.
[02:22]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[02:22]
Pat McAfee
It's your first trip, huh?
[02:23]
J.J. Watt
This is really cool. Yeah. This place is awesome.
[02:25]
AJ Hawk
First. No.
[02:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's his first trip. He's been doing a show, what, four or five years now?
[02:29]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[02:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Is that what it is? Four or five years? First trip out here. He's also in the middle Midwest. Everyone's. Wisconsin is literally stone's throw. Yeah. I think you could actually skip. Yeah, you could skip a rock to it. So the fact that you came today was a surprise. I want to let you know. Positive. We are very happy you're here, aren't we?
[02:46]
AJ Hawk
That's.
[02:47]
J.J. Watt
I feel it. I can feel it. I appreciate. Yeah, I sense it. I can tell. It's just such a. You guys are so jacked and so excited.
[02:54]
AJ Hawk
We are.
[02:54]
Pat McAfee
When you walked in here, we were super excited about it.
[02:56]
AJ Hawk
The only one not Jack's Tone Diggs, because he can't share the stage with one of his favorite players of all time.
[03:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, let's head over to Hammer.
[03:02]
AJ Hawk
Don.
[03:03]
Pat McAfee
Don. See J.J. jesus.
[03:05]
J.J. Watt
I'll get there.
[03:06]
Pat McAfee
A.P. tony.
[03:07]
AJ Hawk
Love you. J.H.
[03:10]
Pat McAfee
Ton. We had no idea this guy was coming. No, just a nice little fresh surprise that J.J. watt makes an appearance. And obviously it's a perfect time to have him because there's a lot of NFL news happening. And whenever we start talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers and their situation. AP Tunne, we will certainly bring you in. Now, J. Let's chit chat about last night. Did you see what the Indiana Pacers did to the New York Knicks right here in Indianapolis, Indiana? Game 4 of the Eastern Conference Finals. Now the pacers are up 3 to 1. And I'll tell you, being in there, having a chance to sit second row, but also courtside at the same time, right alongside the Pacers bench.
[03:44]
J.J. Watt
Promos, right?
[03:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, J, you always like to bring up a little bit of heat.
[03:49]
AJ Hawk
Just promo.
[03:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was one promo. Did not know I was getting a microphone. Did not know I was getting a microphone. Would like that to be known because there was. There was money paid for the seats that we were sitting in. A lot of them. A lot of it yours, not my money. Was going to be my money. And then it was. Somebody else said we could do that. And I said, yeah, actually, you should. How much with how much it is. You could certainly do that. So I thought there was a chance, like, hey, just come enjoy the game. Do the thing. So I'm watching them do the shots. Around the arena of people, it's like, damn, there's a lot of people here. A lot of ex pacers here. Great to see. Danny Granger was back in the building. Jermaine o' Neal was back in the building.
[04:28]
J.J. Watt
Obviously, Mike, one of the best dirt of all time. If you owned a Jermaine o' Neal jersey back in the day, that is. That was.
[04:33]
Pat McAfee
Jermaine o' Neal was beloved in this. I mean, obviously, big pop for him. There was a lot of superstars out. Everybody was seemingly there. Last Jelly Roll was there last night. I mean, Triple H, I was obviously alongside. 50 Cent was in the building. So they're showing all these people, and I'm like, okay, cool. Yeah. They're not expecting me, you know, to do anything, you know, because that is like. That is a moment in there. You've had to experience it, obviously, numerous times. D. Buch, I think probably has experienced it at Florida Panthers game, which we will get to. They're about to go and win this entire thing again. But, yeah, I was like, co. I don't have to do it. Then fourth quarter comes. Guy with camera comes and he goes, hey, can we put you on the thing? What am I gonna say, no? I didn't say no there.
[05:10]
AJ Hawk
I don't think so.
[05:11]
Pat McAfee
I say, sounds good, man. Sounds good. Cool guy, too. Good, good vibes, good energy. He's carrying around a camera all night. You do his thing. So then the MC in there, who I do know, comes over with the microphone in the ears thing, and he goes. He's standing next to me, and I go, are you interviewing me? He goes, no, I'm giving you the microphone. I'm like, oh, I'm kind of promo here. Okay, so now we got about 30, 45 seconds. So I started looking around. I see Spike Lee down there, literally covered up in like a babushka.
[05:35]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[05:35]
Pat McAfee
I don't know what it was. He had, like, a thing over there. I looked down at him, and I look over to, right? And it was so cool to see Timothee Chalamet. First of all, the way. Timothee Chalamet has become, like, as a child, they have shit from him. As a kid, with trying to meet Amar' E Stoudemire and everything, as a Knicks fan, now becoming the face and also becoming, like, the guy, whenever it comes to being a thespian and being an actor and how he wants to do it and what he did at college game day, seeing him was sweet, like, very cool. Ben Stiller. I grew up watching Ben Stiller Yeah, he's out there for the. I mean, it was just a cool moment, but it was very clear what I needed to do, you know, what the assignment was as soon as I saw him. Because these guys are all front row. I mean, they're a part of the show. They're getting things said to them. They're getting things said back. So, yeah, 30, 45 seconds. Decided to come up with something. You know, let's send these guys out here. How we were gonna get there. Didn't know. Sons of bitches was certainly not something that was on the mind until I was in the middle of it. It's like, hmm. Feel like we gotta bring a little bit of a hammer here. But we'd like to let them all know. Mad respect for coming out. Mad respect for the amount of sport they're showing the New York Knicks and also all love Timothy Chalamet. Knew certainly. Cause he's been inches away at the college game day thing. Whenever I saw. And then I, you know, he clapped. Yeah, he. As I had the mic, I look over and he's got a shit eating grin on his face. I'm like, I think he knows what's about to happen here. I don't think Ben Stiller knows. And Ben Stiller did not love it from, from, from what I read from Ben Stiller's at all. Okay.
[06:54]
J.J. Watt
What do you think?
[06:55]
AJ Hawk
Shut up.
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Pat McAfee
He said this would not happen. Wouldn't not happen in New York. Okay. Okay. Wouldn't happen in Madison Square Garden. And so it was weird, you know, Some people were calling me classless in this entire thing. It's like, hey, it was in. This wasn't on tv. Okay. This was. The assignment was, hey, we blew the game in the fourth quarter in game three. Okay. I knew that. We got a lead right now going in. Let's make sure we turn this shit up a little bit. Let's turn this. I get Carlisle going to. He know sells it. No look at all. But then, yeah, I. I didn't even think about there being a negative reaction. Which once again is how I find myself sometimes in a situation where it's like, oh, that was sweet. This whole place just want bananas. Boys on the bench just went crazy. Sat down next to my wife. She was like, hey, that was a lot of fun. Nick Kong goes, okay. And then Triple H goes, unbelievable.
[07:42]
AJ Hawk
You're the best.
[07:44]
Pat McAfee
Whatever. I'm like, thank you, thank you. It was really cool. And then obviously, you know, it goes how it goes and that's how the world is. But I Just want to let everybody know, hey, the assignment was to turn that some upside down. And that's all it was. I do apologize that some of them said some of the aggregators cut it off before I said, let's send them home with their ears ringing. You know, they just said, let's send these sons of back to New York. Like I was kicking them out of town. That worked well. It was a little bit harder than what I was delivering.
[08:11]
AJ Hawk
Works today, for sure.
[08:12]
Pat McAfee
What I was delivering was the ears ringing.
[08:15]
J.J. Watt
Has anybody been out is what I.
[08:17]
Pat McAfee
Was sending these sons of bitches back to New York with their ears ringing. That's literally what I was saying. So it's like, I think I aggregate a little different. What I'm saying. Send these sons up bitches out of our fucking city. I was not saying that.
[08:33]
J.J. Watt
Has anybody been handed the money mic in the fourth quarter of a playoff game before? Like a fan? That's unbelievable.
[08:39]
Pat McAfee
Oh, thank you. I didn't even. I didn't think about that.
[08:41]
AJ Hawk
And people like.
[08:42]
J.J. Watt
I don't know if I've ever seen that, like a legit major game, fourth quarter. Like, they're like, yeah, like, it's not like here we're going to hand a mic to this guy and we have no clue what he's going to say.
[08:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And he does not know he's getting a microphone. Unless somebody else was told that I was getting a mic and just didn't relay the message. Yeah.
[08:58]
J.J. Watt
And you legitimately had to hype up those guys so much. Like, it had to be just so.
[09:03]
Pat McAfee
On that note, James Johnson, who needs to be talked about more. Dog, dog, absolute weapon. Does his job perfectly. Even when he's not in the game. Does his job perfectly. He comes over, gives me a boom, boom. Love that. Walks away. I'm like, got that guy on my side. That's good news.
[09:22]
AJ Hawk
That's all you need.
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Pat McAfee
That's literally all it turns out. Do you know who James Johnson is?
[09:26]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so he is the enforcer for the Pacers, I believe is how. I don't know if that's how everybody views him, but that's how I was kind of introduced to who he is. Hey, this guy's been brought in here basically to make sure Tyrese and the boys, you know, we got a guy in here can hoop. Has played multiple times during the playoffs, but he is a black belt, I think, in Judah. I don't know. He's. He's a dog. And he's also 6 foot 10. Whatever the case, huge. Sweet. Look Sweet tats, sweet dreads. Everything is. He's sweet looking grill. Yeah, he's got an awesome grill. So his job is to protect the boys, I think.
[10:01]
J.J. Watt
Right.
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Pat McAfee
I thought that was just physically, but in the NBA because of how close everybody sits on top of you, just like in the NFL. I assume you've had fans yell at you a lot about J.J. watt. You suck, whatever it is. There was a guy, three Knicks fans, front row right here. They bought those tickets behind the Pacers bench to do exactly what they were doing at the beginning of the game. They were yelling at Tyrese. I mean, they were giving it to Tyrese. This is over Triple H's head because Triple H is sitting right next to Tyrese. So this is happening over his head, basically. And that James Johnson guy, as are the timeout this guy's getting after Tyrese. He just looks at him, calls him. A very strong word. I will say very, very strong word to the Knicks guy. Now the Knicks guy's attention is completely off of Tyrese, and now it's talking to James. And James delivered a verbal assault of this man. That was a first round knockout.
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AJ Hawk
Yep.
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J.J. Watt
Stronger than sons of bitches.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, much stronger. Much stronger than that. But, old buddy, instead of yelling at Tyrese the rest of the game, he's yelling at James and Tyrese. And I'm like, this guy literally just did his job better.
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J.J. Watt
Jumped on the grenade.
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Pat McAfee
Bingo. Yeah, because, like, Tyrese doesn't have to hear it. Now, granted, Tyrese probably locked in. He was locked in too. It was very cool to watch Tyrese be that locked in. Also yelling on bench like that type of. It was cool to watch Tyrese, like, kind of because we were on their bench. Basically, it was cool to watch Tyrese work, but Tyrese didn't have to deal with these guys. Great shit talkers these guys were. These guys were very adamant, good shit talkers. Instead, their attention goes right to James. It was a. It was a wonderful night. Wonderful.
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J.J. Watt
I mean, Tyrese, Wisconsin guy. I mean, come on, let's give him his credit.
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AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
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J.J. Watt
Oshkosh born and bred. Did end up going to Iowa State. Would have loved him to stay a Badger.
[11:41]
Pat McAfee
Well, did you guys offer them?
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AJ Hawk
No, they didn't. I've asked him the same thing.
[11:44]
J.J. Watt
I know. I mean, we've. I know.
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Pat McAfee
The Badgers didn't think Tyrese Halliburton could play basketball for them.
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AJ Hawk
Crazy.
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Pat McAfee
Wow.
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J.J. Watt
I. I'd like to go back and redo that.
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Pat McAfee
They didn't offer you coming out of high school.
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J.J. Watt
They did not offer me. I was too small.
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AJ Hawk
Is there a Wisconsin problem?
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, the Wisconsin people have problems with Wisconsin people.
[12:02]
J.J. Watt
No, no, not what's up with your state? Not at all. Okay, West Virginia, let's calm it down.
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Pat McAfee
Rich Rodriguez.
[12:09]
J.J. Watt
Calm it down.
[12:10]
Pat McAfee
Everybody's Rich. Rod's back, brother.
[12:12]
J.J. Watt
I see your Iowa flags on the floor. I see you kind of understand what's happening over there.
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AJ Hawk
No, that's Iowa wrestling.
[12:19]
J.J. Watt
I see what's happening.
[12:19]
AJ Hawk
Jj how to the Iowa Wisconsin game go?
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J.J. Watt
This not good.
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AJ Hawk
Not good.
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J.J. Watt
Not good, man. I'll tell you what. That one is the one that. That one hurts because that's like a direct one to one comparison. And to get the kicked out of us. They are hurt. It's coming back around.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. You're a Wisconsin guy. You know Tyrese since high school, I assume. Long time.
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J.J. Watt
I don't. I didn't know him personally.
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Pat McAfee
No. Of him. You're a fan of his, obviously, coming out of Wisconsin. Yeah. Because you had that log cabin, remember, you had in Wisconsin throughout the.
[12:45]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Just had a little log cabin built. His hands.
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J.J. Watt
Yeah. You just got a small studio here. Yeah.
[12:49]
Pat McAfee
No, I've never said. I've never said the Thunderdome isn't.
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J.J. Watt
I said it was a log cabin. It was a log cabin.
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AJ Hawk
That's true.
[12:56]
J.J. Watt
It was built.
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Pat McAfee
I think it was a four season. The thing was built out of log. Yeah. They put logs on the outside of a four seasons. I mean, when I saw. It was a great gimmick. I saw his house.
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J.J. Watt
It wasn't a gimmick. I said I had a log cabin. I lived in a cabin made out of logs. Yeah. It was a little bit large, but it was still made out of logs. I didn't know there was a size limit on cabins.
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Pat McAfee
I think it's the LED lights around the TV in the log cabin. You know, just my thoughts of what a log cabin is. You know, you don't have the.
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AJ Hawk
The Jordan shoe rack, the wood burning stove.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. You don't have a pizza maker. I had a wood burning stove.
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J.J. Watt
I had a wood burning stove.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Nonetheless. Beautiful home over there.
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J.J. Watt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. And you follow Wisconsin. So you knew Tyrese since he was a high schooler. I have not known him long enough. But I do know that he's potentially a superstar.
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J.J. Watt
Well, I mean, probably take the potential off.
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Pat McAfee
Well, there's debate.
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AJ Hawk
Not everybody.
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J.J. Watt
For others, that's the small market shit.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Agreed. That legitimately is what it is, isn't it?
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J.J. Watt
No doubt.
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Pat McAfee
So they pulled up the definition earlier, and we thought that was a Good play. We figured we'd do the same thing. Let's hear what Merriam Webster has to say.
[14:10]
AJ Hawk
And that's the authority.
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J.J. Watt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Miriam, for a long time has been saying, this is what a word is. This is what a word isn't.
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AJ Hawk
Whatever you say.
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Pat McAfee
I've actually had somebody tell me that Merriam Webster. A little lazy on a definition of a word before. One of the greatest lines I've ever heard from somebody. That's a lazy definition. I'm saying you're calling Merriam Webster lazy. Kind of mailed it in. But that's the authority that Merriam Webster has. So let's read the definition for a superstar, shall we? JJ let's do it. One. Okay. This is the first one.
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J.J. Watt
Sure.
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Pat McAfee
This first definition of a superstar. A star, parenthesis, as in sports or the movies.
[14:45]
AJ Hawk
Tc, Tom Cruise, socks.
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Pat McAfee
And biggest, possibly end parentheses. Who is considered extremely talented. Is Tyrese considered extremely talented? Let's go. Last night does something nobody in the history has ever done before. Got to a point. Tyrese actually said during his post game press conference, he said, I feel like we're making up stats now to make me look good. But yeah, whenever you have a triple double with 30 plus points and no turnovers, people are going to say, wait a minute. This guy's doing something we've never seen before. He's on very short lists of very great players to do all the things that he's doing basically every single night. Biggest game of the year, Eastern Conference finals. Everybody on earth knows that whoever wins this game is probably going to end up winning the series. If the New York Knicks come into Indiana and steal two after winning two in the Garden, it's over to be a New York Knicks series. The Knicks are going to the finals in the biggest game. With Triple H there. Yeah. With his pops back in the building.
[15:39]
AJ Hawk
Bingo.
[15:41]
Pat McAfee
With fifth.
[15:42]
AJ Hawk
Exactly. Boy.
[15:44]
Pat McAfee
Jelly roll.
[15:45]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[15:46]
Pat McAfee
Timothy Chalamet, Ben Stiller, travel. He has his biggest night, triple double. So I'd say he's extremely talented. Let's go back to that definition. Post, comma. Stop me if I'm wrong on any of this. J.J. i would. You got a big ring. Has great public appeal. Well, I guess in New York probably not, right? Yeah.
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AJ Hawk
Or Milwaukee.
[16:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But is there anywhere other than those cities, like the places exist other than those cities?
[16:09]
AJ Hawk
La, A couple.
[16:10]
Pat McAfee
Los Angeles. I guess that is a place that exists.
[16:12]
AJ Hawk
Boston.
[16:13]
J.J. Watt
How about Miami?
[16:14]
Pat McAfee
Does our city exist or not?
[16:16]
AJ Hawk
It does. Indianapolis would be included. Sometimes people forget.
[16:19]
J.J. Watt
Sometimes people tend to forget.
[16:20]
Pat McAfee
So let's go to public Appeal does this Is this guy liked. Oh, let's go to one of his game winners from this playoff run. Series winner. Yeah. I'd say he has some public appeal around town. Yeah. But Indianapolis isn't anywhere near as big as other cities are. Okay, so it's not a public place anymore. It's not a public forum. He has public appeal. That's James Johnson hugging him, saying, I got you, dog. If anybody talks in the front row, I'm gonna say terrible things to them, and they're gonna get mad at me instead of being mad at you, I'll keep them distracted. So he has public appeal. Right, J.J. that'd be the second part of that.
[16:54]
J.J. Watt
I agree.
[16:55]
Pat McAfee
Now let's go to the third one there. And can usually command a high salary.
[16:59]
J.J. Watt
That's a funny one. That's a funny one to be included in.
[17:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's a superstar. It's true.
[17:05]
AJ Hawk
It's kind of a Trey Hendrickson conversation right now.
[17:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Which we will certainly get into. Average star, not really paid.
[17:10]
AJ Hawk
Sure.
[17:11]
Pat McAfee
Superstar going to command a high salary. Is Tyrese getting paid?
[17:14]
AJ Hawk
Believe he's a max player.
[17:15]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[17:15]
Pat McAfee
Oh, he's a max player. So we're checking all the boxes of what Merriam Webster says is a superstar. I would say so. We just want to let Tyrese know that our tiny little program here in this tiny little city that does not have racist WNBA fans.
[17:32]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[17:33]
Pat McAfee
Confirmed.
[17:33]
AJ Hawk
That's what. WNBA fans confirmed.
[17:34]
J.J. Watt
That's what they said.
[17:35]
Pat McAfee
Wow, that's crazy. That maybe would be good if it makes it to the finals, as opposed to everybody saying, it'd be terrible if this team makes it to the NBA finals on television. Okay. You don't think you're creating potential we want war with you type narrative. If your team wins, it's terrible for the entire league. Your fans are racist. Your guy is not a superstar. Your player is overrated. It's like, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. We're hearing a lot, but just know that Tyrese Halliburton, Pasco, siakam, Nemhardt, Neesmith, TJ McConnell and the boys have this city rally in this city ready. Last night was a great indicator of it. And, Tyrese, you're our superstar. We're appreciative of you.
[18:17]
AJ Hawk
Love you, Tyrese.
[18:18]
J.J. Watt
We're appreciative of York. They're naming streets after every single player on the roster in New York City. I mean, that's. That's a very large city. They haven't won. What do you do here?
[18:28]
Pat McAfee
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Long time this team has given them a lot of hope. I will say watching Jalen Brunson live is outrageous. Very good. He's able to score whenever he wants. And it's like if he even gets an open look, it's like back when Steph Curry was doing his thing. If he just gets an open look, it's like, oh, that's going to fall. Like it's not, it's not like he might miss this one. Especially when he has that little mid range shit he does. Unbelievable. Three, if he has any room, it's going to fall. He is great to watch in person. Very legit, very Karl Anthony Towns. I think he's getting a little tired. He had that 20 point fourth quarter in game three. He obviously had some big plays last night. Watching the amount of running, I'm like, how is he?
[19:05]
J.J. Watt
You're big, big men. Big, big.
[19:08]
Pat McAfee
I don't know how you keep up with it, to be honest.
[19:11]
J.J. Watt
No, I don't. I like six. Second place. I'm a, I'm a big six seconds guy.
[19:14]
Pat McAfee
Oh, he's not retired yet. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is retired. Played in the NBA for 13 years. Yeah, he's been around, been there, done that, has a great shot, says he doesn't run much anymore. Mad respect. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, co host of the Knuckleheads podcast, Quentin Richardson. We just had to break down the definition of superstar there just to see what Merriam Webster's thoughts were. And obviously we're riding a high with the Pacers getting a big win over the New York Knicks last night. What are your thoughts on the entire conversation? This Pacers team is a real deal. This Pacers team is a real deal. Watching them live last night, that's a lot of running. I don't know how I guess OKC does the same thing, but it's a lot of running fast. And as soon as the other team score, as soon as the Knicks score, their entire bench is like, ah, ah, ah. It's like a, it's high tempo all the time. A lot of teams do this. Is this a new thing and what are your thoughts on this Pacers team? Q.
[20:09]
Darius J. Butler
Man, I like what the Pacers are doing, man. They, they, they're doing what they supposed to do, man. They, they season the moment and now they got a chance to go to the, to the, as far as the, as far as the superstar conversation, man. I think, I think if you ask Tyrese himself, we get like as far as us in the media we getting too. Too big on labels. It doesn't really matter when you look at it. You said it. Tyrese getting a max contract. He's balling, he's making. He's. He's been on the all star team. He was been on the Olympic team. I think the real thing you only desire from the. From a player standpoint, like you say you got the money. Don't lie. We all want the money. That's one of the top first things. You want the money, he got the max money. And then you want the respect from your peers. Like when you get done, like the whole overrated thing. That was a joke. That's a joke. Whatever. But I mean, you. At the end of the day, when you get through playing, I think all athletes want to have the respect of their peers because, I mean, the media that's gonna come and go because some people may like you, may not like you, but I'm talking about when you get down in the trenches and they gotta go and hold hoop against you. I know he has to have a respect to everybody to play against him, because look what he's doing. Like you said, a 30 point triple double. But with zero turnovers and the high usage he has, how much he has the ball in his hand, it's not like he's out here playing it safe. He's doing all type of stuff. No looks and everything else. So what he's doing is incredible. And I think when he gets done, his. His body of work will speak for itself.
[21:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I appreciate you saying that, and I agree. And Tyrese, I think he. He hears the noise because he's young, so obviously he has social media. He bans himself from social media during the series is though. I think that's a good play. I think that's a good play. His dad will keep an eye on things, you know, his family will keep an eye on things. But, like, the way he handles himself, the way he has represented this city has been a beautiful thing. He's what, 24?
[21:56]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, 24, 25 or 6.
[21:59]
Pat McAfee
Whatever he is, he's still young. He's very, very young. And I think we're all incredibly pumped for what the future possibilities are here in Indiana. Okc, Indiana. I don't want to look ahead. Obviously, we still have to win the series against the New York Knicks. Winning in Madison Square Garden would be bananas. Okay. That would be spectacular if that was to take place. If they win another one, hey, that's okay. We'll come back here to Indiana and do our thing. Hopefully And I have nothing but respect for that Knicks team. The way they've been able to battle and play is insane. And Karl Anthony, he's so big. Carl Anthony Towns is so big. Q. Rich. He is. I don't think I expected how, like, he's round. Yeah, yeah. He's a he. And he's. They're running him.
[22:42]
J.J. Watt
A lot of hand gestures going on there. A lot of hand gestures going on there.
[22:46]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.
[22:47]
J.J. Watt
He's driving the big guy.
[22:51]
Pat McAfee
I don't want to call him fat. I don't think he's fat. I think it's. But he is well built. He is like a round yacht. Like, stocky. Stocky. That's good. He's like a. He's a stocky gentleman.
[23:01]
J.J. Watt
So I'm very interested in his girth that's going on. It's just a lot of.
[23:04]
Pat McAfee
Oh, I mean, those are your words, jj. Oh, my.
[23:12]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, but he's probably well hung. I mean, come on.
[23:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think he's good at who.
[23:21]
Darius J. Butler
We talk about hoop, right?
[23:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[23:23]
AJ Hawk
From the rim.
[23:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he's very good. But what I'm saying is watching these guys live and seeing them in person, you always forget, like, watching on tv. You too, I assume. How tall are you?
[23:35]
Darius J. Butler
Six. Six.
[23:35]
Pat McAfee
That's what I'm saying. That's just. That's just like standard. So whenever you see how big Karl Anthony Towns was and how much he was running, I'm like, how does anybody keep up with this Pacers team for seven games? It's like, Pascal Siakam, obviously. He's gigantic. He can run all day. I think he can literally run all day. Does OKC play that same style? And how long has this been happening? How long has this been a style that teams, man, I think since Golden.
[24:01]
Darius J. Butler
State was able to show that they could win a championship, you know what I'm saying? With the. With the. With the small ball lineup that. That was, you know, pretty much everybody tried to copy and paste. So now you see a lot of fours, like one through four, you got smaller guys, and then you got one big guy out there. It's a lot of four out, one in or just flat out, five out with pick and roll being played. And these guys. I mean, like you say, you talking about Cat. He's used to this man in Minnesota his whole career. When he was younger, he. He's a guy who. Who's always gotten up and down the court well and played on the outside and played inside. So, I mean, he.
[24:32]
Pat McAfee
He He.
[24:32]
Darius J. Butler
He's equipped for this. And I mean, most of these guys you look at, like, if you. You look at a guy like Rudy Gobert, who's really like 7 4, whatever he is. The WIMBYs, the 7 4, 7, 5. Like, the league is a strange place, man. Cause you say, like, I'm six, six, and I go out there and I do not look big on the court. I look average and regular size. And then it's a difference when you walk into the real world. But when you in the gym and you playing in the league and even in colleges now, everybody's huge, man. These guys are tall 7 footers, 7, 2, 6, 11, 6, 9. And it's like, man, like, you look at a guy like McDaniels, he's like six, nine out there on the court, and he doesn't look like it when he's out there running around with those guys moving, too.
[25:09]
Pat McAfee
I mean, it is just. It's gassers. There's running gassers. That was my biggest takeaway last. Other than the fact that the arena was awesome. The Pacers are great. Tyrese is a dog. Siakam's a dog. Like, everything about that. But whenever you just think about the sport that's being played in front of your eyes, it's like they're so gigantic and they're just running so much. I don't know how you guys do it. 82 game season physical. Yeah. People are talking about, you know, like, taking a break and what they call it, load man, load management or whatever. It's like, I bet you if I was in the league, which I never would be, but let's say I was born 6 foot 7, and I had it absolutely.
[25:48]
AJ Hawk
Wet jumper.
[25:48]
Pat McAfee
Just a wet jumper. They had me running a lot. If I was given an opportunity, probably. Hey, do you want to take tonight off? I think I would probably. Yeah, I think I would have probably said yes to that because of.
[25:59]
Darius J. Butler
And these dudes are so talented. Like today's game, like the right now at present day is you could go from the top to the bottom of the roster, and there's more guys that could do a little everything that's got so much talent than it's ever been in the history of the game. Like, when we, like, you know, earlier generations, you had guys like a Reggie Miller. He was just. He was a shooter, he was a sniper. That's what he's going to be legendary for now you got guys just like Steph Curry is, like, he's the N1 ball handle KING He's AI. He's Reggie Miller. He's a bunch of guys wrapped up in the one. Same thing when you look at a guy like Pascal Siakam, he's like, you know, he's a wing guy, but he's a post guy. He doesn't miss mid ranges. He'll dunk on you. He rebounds, he defends. It's like, these guys are so talented and so gifted. And then like you said, 6, 10, 6 11, Wimby 7 5. Playing like a guard, doing different things. The level of talent and the abilities these, these guys have all in one player. It's never been seen before. How, how many of these guys can.
[26:58]
Pat McAfee
Do so much stuff that needs to be showcased more? Because on TV, it just looks normal. Yeah, you know, like 6, 6 just looks like 5, 11. Whenever you watch on TV and whenever I go to a game, I'm like, I forgot how fucking gigantic because they're walking right in front of me too. They're walking right in front of me. It's like, holy shit, I forgot that you are one of one. What did you want to say?
[27:18]
J.J. Watt
J.R. i have a question for you. You obviously played 13 years. You've seen the game transition over time. As we talk about this, have you seen the training, whether it's the weight room, whether it's running, evolve over time? I know even in the NFL, we're seeing, obviously kids are in these programs starting young, so athletes are just getting bigger, stronger, and faster. Is the NBA similar or is that more about a skill like shot making?
[27:40]
Darius J. Butler
No, it's all in one. The skills and the shot make. I mean, it's obvious, like you, we replicate what we see. So now they've been able to see all of these different things and they able to put it all together. But the training has absolutely gone bonkers. Like these kids are getting trained at such a high level at a young age. That's why they're able to do so many different things. Because they get in the gym and they train, train, train. The difference between this generation and our generation, we. We didn't train nearly as much. We went to parks, we went to courts, open gyms, and we played all day long, played against each other. And that was like our work. That was. That was more of the work we did. We tried different things, we figured different things out. But now the skill level is so high because of the level of training they're getting. They're getting training. It's starting at 6, 7 years old on up. And they training with these guys grew up and they say, I got a guy, I got a trainer that's been training me for this.
[28:31]
Pat McAfee
This.
[28:31]
Darius J. Butler
This long. And like, they. They develop these skills and be. When you're going in the gym at a young age and you're actually focused and honing in on putting in work on different things, they got no choice but to get better. And you seeing that out on the court, I mean, obviously, you know, the coaches and different things would rather some things be honed in, but when you just look at these guys individually and you look at the level of skill that they have and the different things and the tools they have, it's incredible, man. When you see so many guys that could do so many different things. When the earlier generations, it was kind of focused on, this guy can do this, this guy could do that. And now these guys is putting all of this in their own tool bag.
[29:09]
Pat McAfee
I mean, that goes into a much larger conversation about the state of the game and, you know, the skill of the game versus the quality, like, all that. I mean, there's just, like, it happens in football. It happens in every sport. Certainly happens in the NBA. It was an honor to watch everybody do their thing last night. That was right in front of me. That was early. Yeah. That was nice to see. That was nice to see. And he has such an abnormal shot. Yeah, that thing's falling, though.
[29:33]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
[29:33]
Pat McAfee
And then his free throws, too. The way he shoots him, it's like it's fallen. He's looking to assist every single time. And then Ben Matheran got in in relief of Tyrese. Tyrese got, like, extended minutes of just chilling on the sideline, and it was like, you looked over, he had a heat pack on his back, had a little heat pack on his legs. And it's like every minute they steal with him on the bench, it's like, good for the long term. Whenever they go and run it, it's like, I love what they're doing over there. Now let's go to the West. Shall we debut? Go ahead, sir.
[29:59]
AJ Hawk
Big game. Big must win game for the Timberwolves coming up. That one, two punch kind of been inconsistent, Ant man last game, you know, didn't score a bunch. Didn't get enough shots, in my opinion. And then Julius Randle has been very up and down when it comes to putting the ball in the bucket. What can they do there to get those two guys going against okc?
[30:18]
Darius J. Butler
Obviously, man, I think. I think ants. Ants. Shot, shot output kind of predicated. Is predicated on what everybody else is doing. Like, when if everybody else isn't playing well and nobody's posing any threats, that gives the OKC Thunder more room to load up and to shadow him and to. To put more eyes on him everywhere he's going. That's what he's saying when he's saying that he didn't feel like he had a bad game because he made the right plays. Because you gotta understand as the ball handler, when you come down or you come off a screen or you going to make a drive, and when you look at the basket and look at the lane, you see three to four different sets of eyes and you see long arms in the lane, you see guys shading over different things like that, that's trouble. You don't just drive into that. So to his credit, it was. He was making them better, the best plays, but he still, as the superstar of that team, as the guy he has to find a way with the way they're playing them, to get more shots up and to be more productive for his team. As far as Julius Randle goes this way was the reason that I was nervous in this series because he had been outstanding throughout the end of the second half of the season and going down the stretch in these playoffs, the first two season series, he was. He was out of control ball and hooping for them, and he needed to stay at that level for them to have a chance in this series. And that hasn't happened. So for me, that was going to be the difference in the series. If he could go and still be that guy averaging 24, around 6 and 6, they will be in a different predicament because then Anthony Edwards would have more room to do his thing. But. But with him not being able to do that and being up and down and the other players being inconsistent as well, they've been able to load up and give Anthony Edwards all the problems in the world.
[31:49]
Pat McAfee
Hey, that's why depth is such a, like, important thing this time of year, right? Because if one of your superstars isn't, you know, making everything like they had been for a while, somebody else could step up. That's his Pacers team. The Pacers team in a nutshell is like, we have different guys that will step up every single night. Tyrese is the facilitator who's going to make it all happen. That's why he doesn't always have the most amount of points because he's running the offense. He's a coach on the court. He's point guard, obviously, who can also score, obviously at 30 plus. Last night. But it's like we have a plethora of. Feels like Oklahoma City too deep, right? Is that. Is that the right thing? And if you look at the Pacers, what did Sean say? 7th or 8th? Lowest. Yeah, I assume Oklahoma City. I don't know what it is, but I would assume similar not to big markets.
[32:33]
Darius J. Butler
They about to deliver a whole bank, not the Brinks truck, a whole bank about to be sitting at Shake Jordan. You can believe he about to get about close to 400 million. He gonna be. Oh, you talking about pay. He about. It's. I think. I think the number is like 379, 380 or something, to be exact. But it's. Yeah, they about not a drink.
[32:54]
Pat McAfee
Could you imagine $380 million in Oklahoma City. Holy. Good for him.
[33:02]
Darius J. Butler
You could probably go, yeah, very good for him.
[33:05]
Pat McAfee
You remember Matt Stafford got drafted number one overall. They gave him 60 million or something like that before he even step to the NFL or Detroit. And I thought to myself, like, 60 million at that point in Detroit, I think he could have bought the whole city. Yeah, definitely.
[33:19]
AJ Hawk
That was right off after recession.
[33:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Tough times.
[33:23]
J.J. Watt
I remember he just sold it a couple years ago and I saw pictures. It was a badass.
[33:25]
Pat McAfee
Was it a log cabin?
[33:27]
J.J. Watt
No, it was much nicer. It was on a lake, I believe.
[33:31]
Pat McAfee
Oh, beautiful.
[33:33]
J.J. Watt
Don't fall into this.
[33:34]
Pat McAfee
Qr.
[33:34]
J.J. Watt
Don't fall into this.
[33:35]
AJ Hawk
Don't.
[33:39]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so depth matters. Minnesota might not have as much. OKC definitely does. We, the Pacers have a lot of depth. Watching the Knicks, I think Tibbs played like 10 guys last night or something like that. And on Sunday when they got a win, he played nine guys. I think that matters a lot. But I also think the person that's kind of directing the traffic is very important in basketball. I know in some sports. I think we heard biz talk about the hockey where he said coaching. Yeah, it's a lot of reactionary stuff. Dump the puck, you react, how you do that basketball, it feels like this stage coaching very much matters. Go ahead, con man.
[34:11]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Q. Rich. It feels like Rick Carlisle is kind of the elder statesman of the coaches left. He became top 10 in playoff wins last night with that victory and with them possibly going to the finals in the OKC and Timberwolves coaches being a little bit younger than him feels like they have that advantage. How important is that for Rick Carlisle? And then kind of a separate question as well. Pat talked about James Johnson, kind of the vibes he brings to the Pacers bench and locker room. How important Is it to have that vet kind of OG like James Johnson, who can kind of set the tone for everybody? And is that someone Rick Carlisle uses to make sure his message is getting across in the locker room?
[34:51]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, man. Rick Carlisle has been a championship coach and a very good coach in his league for a long time now. So I'm not surprised at all about what he. The job he's been able to do. He's been coach of the year in his league. His teams always have an identity and they represent what he wants them to represent. And so I'm not surprised at the job he's doing at all. He's been doing this his way for a long time and I think it does work because he's very connected with this Indiana team. He has extension from himself as far as Tyrese Halliburton, who's a true point point guard who checks in and they see out of whole game. So I think he's a huge deal for them. As far as jj, man. Yeah. I'm a firm believer that the teams need that guy in the locker room that's a true veteran and he's also a true enforcer. But I mean, the thing about JJ is that you saying he got thrown in the game the other day, he got right in there, score some buckets and did his thing. He's not just some physical intimidator or enforcer out there. If you give him minutes, he can actually still play. And I'm sure he proves, proves that on a daily basis, the whole season long in practice. And he wouldn't have the voice and the place he has on that team if he wasn't that type of dude who's gonna go out there in practice. He's in the struggle, he's in the fight with him, he's going through the hard, rigorous, all of the stuff they gotta do. So he's boots on the ground. But they all know at the same time that he got hands and everybody know it. And he not somebody that you really want to have problems with. He like a black belt or something. Like he, he known for being about that life. So you know what I'm saying? Like, everybody knows that. And you don't earn that reputation, you know what I'm saying, without doing certain things. And he's taking those steps, he's taking those fines and people who know and are aware of that. And so you know that, that, that, that come with a little badge when you, when you do what you got to do.
[36:35]
Pat McAfee
He. Last night, the way he was able to Direct this fan's attention. I don't know if you heard me tell the story earlier or not. This fan, front row. Great talker, New York City talker. I mean, it was right behind us, so I got to hear it. Great persistence, good tone, good delivery, good emphasis, you know, on the side. Good talker. Clearly was a good talker at Tyrese. Boom, boom, boom. And then just James out of nowhere. Just let me go ahead and take that attention right here, buddy. And then that guy was just talking down the bench to James for the rest of the game. And it's like, now Tyrese doesn't have to deal with this guy who's four feet behind him for the rest. It's like, even that little thing. I'm like, genius. That is such a good play. And then you talk about him getting on the court. I think he still had.
[37:20]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, he still had his bracelet on.
[37:21]
Pat McAfee
I think he had the bracelets on, too. He gets out there, obviously does his thing. It's like, to your point, have to be good at ball for anybody to respect you. That's. That's number one in this entire thing, especially in the NBA. For the NFL, it's the same. If you bring a vet into the locker and the guy stinks, you know, the locker room's probably not going to respect the guy. Even like, you know, they might like him as a person. Probably not going to respect the guy. Even if the coaches are trying their best to make this guy be the veteran leader of the team, you know, giving game balls out and stuff to guys.
[37:53]
AJ Hawk
Sure. You know, usually it's a relationship with that player and that coach.
[37:56]
Pat McAfee
Yes. That comes together.
[37:58]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
[37:58]
Pat McAfee
And it's kind of like half a pressure game ball. Oh, yeah. That happened in our. It was tough. It was putting that guy in a bad spot.
[38:08]
J.J. Watt
No. Well, it's put him in a horrible spit.
[38:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But he had to just walk out there and say, yeah, here we go, boys. And we love them as a guy. But it was certainly a situation where it was like, this ain't real. Okay. We need to maybe pick somebody else to do this with. I feel like the NBA is probably. All professional sports are probably the same way. The locker room knows immediately.
[38:25]
Darius J. Butler
You got to be genuine.
[38:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And James does a lot of talking, too. He is. He is a chirper.
[38:30]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. When he went in against the Cavs, we were kind of reminded about it yesterday. He went in against the Cavs and basically just set a screen on Max Stru and just buried him immediately. Yeah. Incredible.
[38:42]
Pat McAfee
This Pacers teams Might have it. All right. Anyways, we will continue to follow this Eastern Conference finals and Western Conference finals until inevitably it's Indiana versus Oklahoma City, which is good for the NBA, certainly, because we do. We think it's a long series.
[38:57]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
[38:58]
Pat McAfee
If it's the other teams.
[38:59]
AJ Hawk
Oh, no, no.
[39:01]
Pat McAfee
Everybody's talking about business, Business, business, business, business. Seven games probably better than four or.
[39:07]
AJ Hawk
Five without a. Yeah, last year was five, and it stunk. Unless you were Celtics.
[39:11]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So I think. I think that's. That's what we should be looking for.
[39:14]
Darius J. Butler
Now, granted, basketball is good business. That's. That's the good business. Whoever's playing the good basketball.
[39:21]
Pat McAfee
Bingo.
[39:21]
J.J. Watt
Yes.
[39:22]
Pat McAfee
That is sports. That is sports. Now, granted, I can see how New York involved in anything is good for ratings because there's so many people. So many people over there. Certainly a valid conversation, but like six, seven games, a lot better than four or five games if we're just talking business, business, business, business all the time, which is what everybody seems to be. Yeah. It's not bad business if the Indiana Pacers are in this. It's like, what if they're the best team? That's bad business. For the best team to be in the Finals, that seems like a dumb thing. Nonetheless, we will continue to fall this off season, though. Q is about to be. We've never heard. Go ahead, Ty.
[39:56]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, Q. We had Shams on the show yesterday, and he said, I quote, this might be the most craziest off season ever.
[40:03]
Pat McAfee
His words, not ours.
[40:04]
AJ Hawk
Correct. Now, when you take that into account, do you agree with that? Do you think we're going to see a bunch of players changing teams that kind of changes, like the dynamic of the NBA as a whole? Obviously, some of these teams, like the Pacers and the Thunder, probably aren't going to look a whole lot different, but there is, you know, a possibility that KD is on a new team and Giannis is on a new team and all these different superstars. Do you think that's going to happen this season? Are we going to see a lot of household names change teams?
[40:33]
Darius J. Butler
I don't know about how many, but I do know normally when you have that type of seismic activity with a Giannis or KD potentially moving, and there's always moves made after that. So, I mean, you know, when those type of names are looming going into the summer, you can expect that this is, like, gonna be a big summer. I mean, Shams is paid to know way more than I do, so maybe he knows some other things that might be on the brink of happening. That I don't know. But, yeah, I mean, I'm excited for it, man. I'm super excited to just see and watch everything that's gonna happen and see how things unfold and. And how it play out. Because, I mean, I. I definitely think when you got. When it's potentially a KD and a Giannis moving is no telling what else could happen. And on the heels of a kd, I mean, an AD for Luca trade. So, you know, right now, it's. Anything can happen. Everybody's still trying to jockey and position themselves after that Luka ad trade. So I definitely believe it's going to be some stuff going on this summer.
[41:27]
Pat McAfee
You're great for basketball, Q. Rich, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Enjoy your day.
[41:32]
Darius J. Butler
All right, fellas.
[41:33]
J.J. Watt
Appreciate y' all.
[41:33]
Pat McAfee
Hey, Pacers in five or how's this thing go?
[41:39]
Darius J. Butler
I don't know, man. I think. I definitely think they gonna. New York gonna throw the kitchen sink at them. I don't think they just gonna lay down. I think they could get this one in the Garden. And then I think Indiana comes back and does his thing. I don't think it goes past Game 6, because if it goes past Game 6, the Knicks gonna win.
[41:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we know. Yeah. Or let's take it easy.
[41:57]
Darius J. Butler
I don't think it's gonna go down. Like now you about to get the kitchen sink from the Knicks in the Garden, and then when they come back, the pace has got to throw the kitchen sink at them and try and put them down.
[42:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I don't think I helped the entire situation over there. Madison Square Garden. I don't think either. Ladies and gentlemen, Quentin Lucas. Thank you, Rich. What'd you say there, J.J. i thought.
[42:16]
J.J. Watt
You were talking about the next series. I thought you were talking about.
[42:18]
Pat McAfee
No, no, no. Come on, come on, come on. What are you doing?
[42:21]
J.J. Watt
We don't look towards the future. There's a lot of looking towards the future.
[42:23]
Pat McAfee
There is a lot of looking towards the future, especially in the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. So let's talk about it. What do you know, J. Who's going to be the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers?
[42:32]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I don't. I don't have any inside information. I would assume the same as everybody else. It'll most likely be Aaron Rodgers.
[42:38]
Pat McAfee
Your head is. Just kicked that earpiece out of your left ear there. Said, see you later. You think Aaron Rodgers going to be the quarterback? Are you hearing anything from the inside sources?
[42:47]
J.J. Watt
No, I'm not. I'm literally not. But I would assume that seems to be the way that all directions are pointing.
[42:51]
Pat McAfee
Let's go to one half of the Hammer Don. Cowboys currently residing in Hammer Don Don. AP Tone Tone. Any Pittsburgh Steelers insider questions for JJ Walk? Because he certainly has information. This is going to be like an AJ Hawk type scenario, but let's see how he dances.
[43:06]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I almost regret. Regret asking this because it has been so quiet and I don't want people to talk about it, but there is still the. The contract looming out there. J has got. Or. Sorry, TJ has got one year left on his contract. Is there. Is there any update on that situation?
[43:22]
J.J. Watt
You don't need to regret anything. It's okay.
[43:24]
Pat McAfee
All right.
[43:25]
AJ Hawk
I made a mistake.
[43:26]
J.J. Watt
I mean, it's. It's a television show. It's fine. You guys coming off the bench here.
[43:31]
AJ Hawk
I haven't talked in 30 minutes. You gotta get. Sorry.
[43:37]
J.J. Watt
Oh, good segment. Good segment.
[43:39]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, wait.
[43:40]
Pat McAfee
Whoa. He regretted something.
[43:43]
J.J. Watt
No, I do.
[43:44]
Pat McAfee
I mean, I have.
[43:45]
J.J. Watt
I have a lot of information on that subject. I just. I'm. That's not my subject to discuss.
[43:50]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you are jj, not tj. So you don't feel like you should be the one speaking on TJ's situation with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's talk about defensive ends and quarterback tacklers as a whole then, okay? Because TJ is probably seeing the same thing. We won't make you say. We will say the things that we assume TJ has seen in the situation that TJ is currently in. Tj, obviously, I think going into the last year of his contract, very much below what the current market is, especially for the best pass rushers in all football. Myles Garrett just cracked open, okay, a vault in Cleveland. Now, this is a Cleveland move to pay top money, maybe over money for their pillar players if they think they're a pillar player or know they're a pillar player. This has been Haslam's move. $40 million for Miles Garrett. Now, we know you probably wouldn't have retired if you knew that $40 million a year was possible for the defensive end position. So I will speak that for you. But everybody else that got paid this offseason, huge numbers teege down there towards the bottom of the money, let alone the guaranteed money left on contracts. Trey Hendrickson down there at the bottom as well. Trey Hendrickson story is much louder than TJ story because Trey Hendrickson has come out and said, like, hey, you've kicked can down the road three years now. Basically with me, either pay me or trade me is kind of his messaging At Super Bowl. Since then, there's still been no conversation. Ownership of the Bengals said sometimes some of these players just need to be happy with what they got. And Trey Anderson says, what are we talking about?
[45:18]
AJ Hawk
Excuse me.
[45:19]
Pat McAfee
Well, I'm literally the sacking. So whenever you see this market happening and then obviously you have family involved in this type of situation and is brewing, and then you see what's happening with Trey Hendrickson, a man who I assume you know and get along with, well, what are your thoughts on it and how do you think it all ends up kind of settling out?
[45:34]
J.J. Watt
I've long been been a big believer that ownership and front offices obviously treat this like a business, but they do not like it when the players flip the script on them and treat it like a business back. Taking care of your guys earlier does a few things for you. Number one, it gets them locked in at a lower price in the long run. I mean, you look at what prices are doing every single year, you get them locked in at a lower price. Number two, you're keeping them happy. Because even now, let's say, look at Trey Henderson situation, let's say they pay him now, now there's all this resentment, there's all this animosity. And yeah, $40 million or whatever it is cures a whole lot of that. And he's going to act like everything is great and everything is wonderful. But you just went through a whole bunch of time where there was some disrespect, where there's some hurt feelings, and now you're going to go back into a building, act like everything's okay. If you take care of things early, especially when players want to take care of things earlier and say that they'll take less money to take care of things earlier because it sets themselves up long term financially. Do that. Because if you don't do that, that's when the problems start to arise. And now all of a sudden you say, hey, we have to kick this can down the road because of the way everything's working out. You kick the can down the road, the can gets a whole lot bigger. And then the player says, well, the cans a lot bigger now fill it up. And you don't want to fill it up because you say, well, we have to pay all these other guys, we have to take care of these other things. It's like, well, I wanted to fill the can way back down here when it was a little soup can. Now we got ourselves a garbage pail.
[46:57]
Pat McAfee
Hey, that's on you and that's on the situation, the amount of risk, you know, involved in it all. Because if you're willing to take less earlier, there's a reason you're willing to take less because it's setting you up for comfort. There's something else coming alongside of it. But if you're going to make me take the risk of playing this entire thing, potentially ending my career, potentially getting an injury, potentially whatever the case is, and then that means the other thing. The comfort has been very low. So there is a fee for the comfort here. That's how business. That is literally how business goes.
[47:26]
J.J. Watt
Exactly. And we've seen Trey say it publicly. The team says that they're going to talk to you early in the year. We're going to get this thing done. We just. Just let us get through this season, and then we'll make sure we take care of it early. And then you come early in the off season and you say, hey, let's take care of this. We said we were going to do this early. You said it was going to be. All of a sudden it's crickets. All of a sudden it's silence. Or it's, hey, we have to get through the combine. Hey, we have to get through free agency. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. We talked about last year. You said if we kick the can down the road, we were going to take care of it. We're not taking care of it.
[47:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the resentment's a real deal. That's just like Myles Garrett. Everybody was like, Myles Garrett said all those things about wanting to win and not just being a highly paid player or whatever. And then they're like, well, 40 million can make up for it. It's like, it can. You know, I think obviously 40 million, having sat in sheets in a massive log cabin probably over there in Cleveland, can certainly help out. But inevitably, he's going to have. Have to lay his head down at night whenever things aren't going well and be like, is this the right decision? You know, we saw Tyreek down in Miami. Tyreek takes a massive payday from the Miami Dolphins as opposed to potentially less money in Kansas City. Tyreek certainly worthy of the money. I'm not saying he wasn't, but there came a point now where he's like, I would like to win some games and get back in meaningful football. So there's always a fine balance in your decision making. But anytime people sacrifice comfort and make people risk, there's going to be a fee that comes alongside of that. That's why what the Philadelphia Eagles did with SAQUON Saquon Barkley this year. They just re upped him out of nowhere. That came out of nowhere for us. We got a text like, hey, Saquon might be getting a new deal. And I'm like, saquon, didn't he have like two years, three years left on his deal? They're like, yeah, they just want to kind of compensate him for what he did for the team early and let him know. It's like, you tell the whole locker room, like, hey, if you do the right shit here and you perform for us, we're going to pay you. You have Saquon locked in now for three years, whatever, happy that he got paid big in the long run. And then you, you also give a message to your fan base like, hey, we, we invest in the people that do good shit here. It's like, it's such a good thing to do.
[49:13]
J.J. Watt
It's also a conversation that we've seen start to bubble up a little bit about cash rich ownership versus cash poor ownership and who has the ability to pay big money up front and lay it out over void ears on the back end versus other owners who can't afford to put that money in escrow at the moment. Right now. That a conversation I know that they're seeing at the league level that they're trying to start to find a solution to, because there's teams and there's ownership that has the ability to do some incredible things from a contract standpoint that other teams literally can't do.
[49:43]
AJ Hawk
You, you had to nail on the head too. Like it's bigger than just that player. That message to the locker room, that's a big deal, especially for a guy like Trey Henderson, who has been everything, not only on the field, but off the field. As far as character, he's done everything right. You talked about Saquon. Buffalo did with Josh Allen, giving him a brand new deal. But I think three years, two or three years left on his deal and it just says, hey, you do the right things, we're going to take care of you. Continue to do it and you'll fall in line. Philly, not only Saquon, they signed AJ Devonte. Think my lot of got a new deal. Zach Bond got rewarded for his year. So like, hey, you. And to JJ's point, take care of it early. Yeah, two years down the line, it's going to be a completely different ball game.
[50:21]
J.J. Watt
It's a perfect point. You're sending a message to the locker room. If you handle your business, if you do your job, we Will take care of you. I looked at the Texans with Nico Collins. His deal right now looks like one of the best deals in football because they took care of him early. He played well, they saw what he was doing, they took care of him early. Now they take care of Derek Stingley early. Next year, they're going to have to worry about CJ Stroud and Will Anderson. They'll take care of them. It's just one of those things where if you show the locker room, do things the right way, we'll pay you. All of a sudden, your culture handles itself because nobody in the locker room's in a corner talking about, I wonder if they're gonna pay him, are they not gonna pay him? Everybody's just like, oh, wow, this place treats us good, we should treat them good in return.
[50:58]
Pat McAfee
What is the big issue? Trying to deem who's worthy of being a pillar person? Because you're paying your pillars. Because whenever you lock into those big deals, it's like, hey, we gotta. Now we gotta manage this contract over the next four years. Even if it's less than what it would have been in two years from now, it's still a big contract that we just gave to somebody two to three years ahead of schedule, you know, because everything operates on schedules. This is where we think the salary cap's gonna be. This is where we are. This is where we're gonna be. This is what the contracts are. So just picking the right people, I guess, is the fear, is what they say. Why don't.
[51:25]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, I mean, the fear is obviously that it's whether it's injury, whether it's play decreasing, whether it's off the field issues, or you give a guy money and all of a sudden he stops working as hard or whatever that may be.
[51:35]
Pat McAfee
Oh, fat pockets.
[51:36]
J.J. Watt
Like, it might be those. But again, we're paying these guys no matter what. Like, guys are getting paid across this league. Whether it's with your team, whether it's someone else, at some point, you're paying the piper. You can point to a. A handful of deals that didn't work out, obviously where the guy got big money and he had. I mean, Albert Haynes is one that he always goes back to, but no, it doesn't anymore.
[51:56]
Pat McAfee
Goes back to one guy. Who's that now? It goes back to one guy. He plays quarterback. Yeah, you know, he did play quarterback very good.
[52:04]
AJ Hawk
At one point in the land when you were playing.
[52:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, when you were. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That'll be considered the deal that. No, can't do 230 of them.
[52:14]
AJ Hawk
That's the thing, though. You got to not only pay for what that player has done, but what you project them to do. So that's why when you get players, especially once you start getting around that 30 mark, a lot of these people who just crunch numbers and they not necessarily know ball or know your work ethic or know your offseason, how you train all these different things, they make those decisions, like, hey, he's at this point, let somebody else pay him or overpay him. And you got to be in a position where you got to. And if you're wrong, which it does happen, you know, you're going to be asked, going to be there to cash well, and even like the message to your own locker room, but, like, also a message to the league. Like, if you're a free agent and you're deciding between Philadelphia and Cincinnati and you're thinking about, hey, which team is going to reward me when I go there and play super well, you're not going to think the Cincinnati Bengals, because of what has happened. And even for, like, A.J. brown, A.J. brown gets traded to Philly, they pay him a bunch of money and then they give him an extension. Devonte Smith, they pay before, like, all those, you know, top teams that are competing, Chiefs, Eagles, Lions, like those three teams pay guys before damn near anybody else.
[53:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And they're doing well. You know, it feels like you can get into a rhythm. They paid Patrick Mahomes massive deal early. They can play with that contract. Travis Kelsey has got another day. It's like all the teams that are good are seemingly ahead of schedule. They kind of know what's going on. They can forecast what's going to happen. All the people that are just trying to kind of hang on, seems like it doesn't always work out.
[53:33]
AJ Hawk
Quarterback.
[53:34]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, you got to have a quarterback. Yeah, it all starts there. But, like, I mean, we're looking at the Bengals right now with the situations that they're in. Like, they missed the playoffs. Like, you have one of the best quarterbacks in the entire NFL. That's the gold ticket. That's the golden goose. That's the asset that you need to make everything else fall into place. They just weren't able to make everything else fall into place yet.
[53:52]
Pat McAfee
Do you have any questions for J.J. watt? All you got to do is head over to X and use the hashtag Ask J, Y ask J, and that actual picture of J.J. watt will be a part of answering your question. Now, if you make it good, there's a better chance it's going to make the program. Shitty questions don't get asked, but there's no such thing as a bad question. There are certainly dumb ones, though.
[54:15]
AJ Hawk
Certainly.
[54:16]
Pat McAfee
And you should know that.
[54:18]
AJ Hawk
J.J. in your opinion, with the Trey Hendrickson situation, I don't think he really is like this as a person, but do you think it would service him a little bit bit better if he was maybe like a little bit more of a prick because he's been so amicable the whole time. I said it a couple weeks ago like, it's kind of the basketball Squeaks Galari situation, where he basically said, like, hey, listen, if you guys rip on me 16 or 17 more times, like, I'm out of here. I'm done doing this. Like, and again, he's a God fearing man. We've had him on, like, it doesn't seem like that's really his M.O. but you think that's part of it too? The ownership's like, well, like, we can kind of push this guy around because everything we've done, like, he's kind of been okay with it. His stance hasn't changed at all.
[54:58]
J.J. Watt
I mean, you also have to look at it a little bit like the Tyrese Halburn situation. Small market, he's been playing phenomenal football for years. I mean, led the league in sacks and those things. But he doesn't have the national star power that some of these other guys have from bigger markets, bigger cities, or more talkative, boisterous personalities, things like that. So then, yeah, like you said, it almost puts you back in that little box where the guy, the ownership can say, well, he's not going to make us think about it. Why wouldn't we keep doing that? I think that's probably part of the reason that he's been talking as much as he has lately and trying to lay it out. It's such a hard spot as a player, because I, I fully understand. Fans are sitting there like, you're complaining when they're offering you $25 million. You're complaining when they're offering you $30 million. How could you ever complain about that? We understand, like, yes, it's insane. This is all nuts, but it's business. And that's how this whole thing works. So Trey wants to sit there and he wants to lay everything out for the fans. He wants to say, this is exactly what they told me that they would do. And they have now not followed through with that. So what do you expect me to do? I'm coming here just to let you know what I'm going through. So you don't think I'm some selfish bastard trying to get my money. Like I'm just trying to follow through with what they told me they would do. But then you go out and say that now people are like, look at.
[56:09]
Pat McAfee
This guy, this guy, this guy, this piece, this guy. You're lucky to play football. Football for the Bangles.
[56:15]
J.J. Watt
And we also don't.
[56:16]
Pat McAfee
I would love to play football for the Bengals.
[56:18]
J.J. Watt
We don't want our guys to give cookie cutter answers. We don't want our guys to just give the standard press conference lines. But when they do go up there and they tell you exactly what's going on and they say exactly what's happening behind the scenes, all of a sudden, we don't like what we're hearing. This guy's a jerk.
[56:32]
AJ Hawk
This guy's an distraction.
[56:34]
Pat McAfee
I don't like his negative attitude. They're not going to win with that.
[56:37]
J.J. Watt
So I hear it, I understand it. It's frustrating, man.
[56:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you. You were a man that was a hero in a city and then inevitably had to head to another team. I couldn't even imagine what that was like for you. Obviously, moving from Houston over there to Phoenix. Obviously your golf game got better over there in Arizona. So how you playing with those hockey sticks? Our two will be on the other side. We'll be joined by many. Nobody will be as big as JJ Wall. Welcome to AutoZone. What are you working on today?
[57:06]
AJ Hawk
My car is making this noise. Sometimes it's like. And sometimes it's like.
[57:11]
Pat McAfee
Do you have a dash light on? Oh, yeah.
[57:13]
AJ Hawk
Then we don't have to listen for clues.
[57:15]
Pat McAfee
With the free fix finder service, we can read a check engine, ABS or maintenance light to find the likely fix and even recommend a local shop if you need one.
[57:23]
AJ Hawk
So you don't need to hear the.
[57:26]
Pat McAfee
Not with fix finder. Everything you need.
[57:28]
AJ Hawk
Nothing.
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Pat McAfee
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[57:35]
AJ Hawk
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[57:45]
Peter Schrager
And sacrifice towards the composition of champions.
[57:53]
AJ Hawk
An unforgettable journey is nearing its finale.
[57:56]
J.J. Watt
Four more wins to take home the trophy.
[57:58]
AJ Hawk
The NBA finals, presented by YouTube TV, begin June 5th on ABC.
[58:06]
Pat McAfee
People. And welcome back to our humble abode. The thunder day on this superstar. Hey, play the drums, will you? Hour two begins now. Unbelievable.
[58:21]
J.J. Watt
I had a real show right there. Dropped my phone, my earpiece fell out and I missed the sports. I can't get the. I can't get that down.
[58:28]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, that's J.J. y great to have you here. J.J. you look amazing. You look like you're in incredible shape. Still lifting? Still working out?
[58:37]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[58:37]
Pat McAfee
Still not fully retired yet. No.
[58:39]
J.J. Watt
Fully retired.
[58:40]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Put it on the seatgeek ticker down there. J.J. watt is fully retired. Still lifting though. Still getting after it.
[58:47]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Not. Not 100% sure why or what for. Just can't give it up. Old dog, new tricks.
[58:52]
Pat McAfee
What are you doing? What type of workouts are we maybe doing Pilates to stretch out as we get older.
[58:57]
AJ Hawk
Benching.
[58:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What's that?
[58:59]
J.J. Watt
Probably for the.
[59:01]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Cuz you and AQ Shipley have AO 225 off with Tim Tebow.
[59:05]
J.J. Watt
I had a good run where I was ready for that and I didn't need to ramp it back up.
[59:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we're going to do that in the summer when there's nothing. Yeah, just baseball. When did you think it was going to be? You thought it was going to be during the playoffs? NBA and NHL playoff.
[59:16]
J.J. Watt
Definitely not when the Pacers are in. Of course.
[59:18]
Pat McAfee
Thank you. Yeah, that's what we're talking about. You're kind of coming back around on this whole thing, right?
[59:22]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, a little bit here and there.
[59:23]
Pat McAfee
You squatting still? You get under the bus bar?
[59:24]
J.J. Watt
Yep. You did yesterday, but did both yesterday. Yesterday was a good day.
[59:28]
Pat McAfee
How much did you squat yesterday?
[59:30]
J.J. Watt
465 for three. Just a couple. Maintenance sense.
[59:33]
Pat McAfee
Do you have one of those, like super padded bars?
[59:35]
J.J. Watt
I mean, come on, guy, Reddit. What is this, fifth grade?
[59:37]
AJ Hawk
That's what Whitworth does. Are you old school?
[59:39]
J.J. Watt
Oh, you're talking about these guys with the safety. Yeah, it's great stuff.
[59:43]
AJ Hawk
Great. Thought we were getting one of those.
[59:47]
Pat McAfee
Guys are still pulling weight on her back. Just distributed little differently.
[59:51]
J.J. Watt
I could put 700 on that today.
[59:53]
Pat McAfee
Bet you think you're really good.
[59:56]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I score. Yeah. The safety bar with the handles.
[59:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[60:00]
J.J. Watt
I mean, yeah.
[60:01]
Pat McAfee
7. What would you do now with a metal bar? You did 465 for three. I don't know what the math is. 600.
[60:05]
J.J. Watt
I. I could probably like comfortably. If I was saying what I could. I'd probably say 5. 505. 525.
[60:12]
Pat McAfee
Just walking around as a human.
[60:13]
AJ Hawk
Comfortably.
[60:14]
Pat McAfee
He's just. He's just a dad. A husband right now.
[60:16]
AJ Hawk
That's right.
[60:16]
Pat McAfee
And a TV person. Yeah, I can squat. I can squat 500 pounds if I actually, I'm going to do that right now.
[60:22]
J.J. Watt
I was at it. I was at a gym yesterday. It was a public gym and what I needed.
[60:26]
AJ Hawk
You can't be doing that.
[60:27]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, it's okay. It was quiet. It's middle of the day. You got to know your times. But I was asking for a spot and because I needed it on my top set and this guy came over and spotted me. And after the set he goes, hey, I just want to let you know I was your brother's stunt double on the old El Paso commercials. You guys were awesome. It was a lot of fun.
[60:42]
AJ Hawk
That's pretty cool.
[60:42]
Pat McAfee
Where is this? This is in Wisconsin.
[60:44]
J.J. Watt
Was in Wisconsin. It was just at a local gym.
[60:46]
Pat McAfee
I love that they casted it. Hey, we need a stunt double. We need it to be a basic, bland looking white. Need to go to Wisconsin to find another watt looking lad. They all know it's you, obviously. And immediately afterwards they say, of course you're squatting £465 on a Tuesday in the off season as a retired football player. Is that what they say to you?
[61:04]
J.J. Watt
It's. They. There's looks. I mean, there's literally four people in there. Like, you got to know your times. I can't go in there at 9am I can't go in there at 5pm but noon to three is a good, good window for me. Although I'm screwed now, I guess.
[61:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Who runs the office?
[61:17]
AJ Hawk
All right, where is this gym?
[61:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, who runs the office?
[61:19]
J.J. Watt
This is great. No, I don't know nobody. I don't do music. People have their AirPods in, but I don't. I don't.
[61:24]
Pat McAfee
I don't do music. Does the gym do music? You're raw. 465 for three.
[61:30]
J.J. Watt
Now that I think about. They do have like something soft playing. It's not like. It's not like a, you know, yacht rock.
[61:38]
AJ Hawk
Higher level.
[61:40]
J.J. Watt
Raw. Dogging it straight Raw. Yeah, it's. I could probably get a couple more pounds if I put on some good music.
[61:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Waka Flocka was down in Tampa Bay the other night.
[61:47]
AJ Hawk
Stole the show.
[61:48]
Pat McAfee
I heard he was coming. I heard he was coming and I just did a walk. A Flocka's greatest hits on the bus beforehand turned that up.
[61:54]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[61:55]
Pat McAfee
Are you kidding me? The world needs a Walka Flocka back in this world. He. Every song you knew what you were getting. When you talk about somebody knowing who they are and knowing what's coming, whenever his name was attached to it. It's like if Waka Flocka is on a song. Titus O' Neill. Yeah, he's on a dating show. 21 women. Him, Carlos Boozer and Tyson Beckford, living in a house, dating Show.
[62:17]
AJ Hawk
That's awesome.
[62:18]
Pat McAfee
It's coming on Bravo. Yeah. Because he's like the mayor of Tampa, like legitimately knows everybody down there. Obviously legend in the wwe. Also, Q Dog has the entire arena barking alongside of him every single night that he is mentioning. And yeah, he shows up. Looks unbelievable. Jeez, Tice, you look so good. He goes, doug, you know, I'm sticking with her or whatever. And I'm like. He said, I think you're promoting my show tonight. And I was like, oh, what's your show? I had no idea what it was. And he said, dating show. Bravo. 21 women looking for three guys.
[62:45]
J.J. Watt
21 women all living in the same house. Yeah, that sounds a lot less dating show, a little more something else going on there.
[62:52]
Pat McAfee
Look at this crew. I don't know how he's going to catch football. So that guy, I. Do you think he's gonna do a great job? I think so too.
[63:01]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[63:01]
Pat McAfee
It's off season. Refreshing a mind.
[63:03]
AJ Hawk
Let people be who they are.
[63:04]
Pat McAfee
That's nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler right there. Good luck. Tighty saying Boozer and Beckford on Final Love. He'll be on Bravo. I think he. What?
[63:13]
AJ Hawk
Hopefully they win.
[63:14]
Pat McAfee
I think they. Oh, in finding love.
[63:16]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[63:17]
Pat McAfee
That's talk. Stable lovers of love. How do they lose at Boss Connor, at Tai Schmidt? I think in those reality shows you can lose.
[63:23]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah, Without a doubt. The clap, maybe.
[63:25]
Pat McAfee
I think you can. You can certainly lose.
[63:27]
J.J. Watt
There's a few ways to lose in that.
[63:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I. I wonder if it's going to be full on.
[63:33]
J.J. Watt
Oh, a lot of ways to win.
[63:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I wonder if they're going to be flipping tables and stuff.
[63:39]
AJ Hawk
They'll be flipping something.
[63:40]
Pat McAfee
Were you. So you were a. I don't know.
[63:42]
J.J. Watt
How this is going to transition this way. I don't know.
[63:45]
Pat McAfee
What were you ever asked to be like the batch? I don't know your.
[63:47]
AJ Hawk
Good question.
[63:48]
J.J. Watt
No, this is a good question. No, I was not.
[63:50]
Pat McAfee
Because there for a while you were the cock of the walk. Remember? He was on everything.
[63:54]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
[63:56]
Pat McAfee
You're on everything.
[63:57]
J.J. Watt
Correct.
[63:57]
Pat McAfee
You've actually talked about this with other people. Getting offered so much money to do such little work, you feel obligated to say yes to it. And then all of a sudden, six months later, when everything comes out, everybody's saying, this guy's ab. Sick of this guy. It's like, well, I didn't know this was all gonna be at the same time. In the amount of money I was getting paid to do nothing. No work. I had to say yes You've actually talked about that being a part of your life. Life, but that was a part of your life.
[64:17]
J.J. Watt
You.
[64:18]
Pat McAfee
Were you offered movies? Were you offered any reality shows? Were you offered any of those things?
[64:21]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, Yeah, a little bit of. A little bit of everything.
[64:23]
AJ Hawk
A new girl.
[64:24]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, new girl. Loved it. It was great. Yeah, a little bit of all that stuff. But like you said, it's to. It was more about finding your way. I had to go through it all. I had to find my way. I had to understand. I had to go through a lot of hate, and I got to look back at things and I. That I would do much differently if I could do them again. But that's part of figuring it out, and that's everybody that goes through it. You're fortunate enough to have to figure it out, because you got to. And I'm sure you've had very similar things as you go through this entire thing.
[64:51]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah. The only way you learn is to go through it. And then you either quit or you just keep going.
[64:55]
J.J. Watt
And it still gets hard. I mean, still today, somebody will slap an offer down in front of you and you'll be like, man, that's a shitload of money. I mean, I've turned down, like, they're turned down very, very, very significant amounts of money because I. I just didn't.
[65:08]
Pat McAfee
Agree with 10 millions.
[65:09]
J.J. Watt
Multiple. Multiple millions for certain things that I. I just. I couldn't do it. Couldn't. Couldn't agree.
[65:14]
Pat McAfee
I bet, jj, that's growth. Yeah, that is growth, all you're looking for. It is very difficult. I've never been on the J.J. watt level of things, obviously, but somebody will put something in front of you. I mean, it happened during COVID a lot.
[65:27]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[65:27]
Pat McAfee
Hey, here's a coin. Here's $2 million. Basically, you know, what do I have to do? You just gotta basically promote it for a couple months or whatever.
[65:38]
AJ Hawk
Don't worry about it. It's not real.
[65:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they never said that. I know, but they said, we'll handle everything else. Basically, here's $2 million, and I'm looking around like a lot of people are doing it. I'm like, this seems too.
[65:47]
AJ Hawk
The PNP loan.
[65:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the PPP loan. Yeah, ppp. This seems too.
[65:53]
J.J. Watt
You start to get in that pharmaceutical world. There's a lot going on there.
[65:57]
Pat McAfee
Oh, I know what you're talking about all of a sudden. How do you mean? No, you know, you talk about Billy Gardell. Listen, Billy Gardell changed a lot. Hit me up, Oz.
[66:09]
AJ Hawk
Epic.
[66:09]
Pat McAfee
What up? That's a guy looking for an easy paycheck. Joining us now live from Anakin, Ohio. He's a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion, a man that used to say click clack. Yeah, it's great to see him Bick back.
[66:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[66:26]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.
[66:28]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[66:30]
Pat McAfee
Hawk Tone saying, hey, listen, Ozempic, you want to show a guy transforming? I'll be your. I'll be your Huckleberry. Huckleberry. There it is.
[66:42]
AJ Hawk
I didn't think. I didn't think Ozempic, like, initially when Jade said he turned down millions to do something with the pharmaceutical. Me either. It wasn't my first guess.
[66:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I don't think. I think we all know what it was. Yeah, we all know what it was.
[66:53]
AJ Hawk
JJ and I are getting the same offers. Aj, I was playing my.
[66:56]
Pat McAfee
My strengths, okay? He said, hey, I'm a kind of frumpy looking guy on tv. Billy Gardell, a little bit bigger than me. Same city, same town, same accent. Certainly.
[67:05]
J.J. Watt
I'm trying to figure out if I can actually say what it was or not.
[67:07]
Pat McAfee
We know what it was.
[67:10]
J.J. Watt
No, you don't.
[67:12]
AJ Hawk
New genics.
[67:12]
J.J. Watt
No, that's not what it was.
[67:13]
Pat McAfee
We all know what it was.
[67:15]
AJ Hawk
It was new genics. And you turned that down. You and the big herd.
[67:17]
Pat McAfee
Dirt. Yeah. Frank. Frank said, I'll take that off. J.J. was.
[67:20]
AJ Hawk
What is it? Come on, man.
[67:22]
J.J. Watt
I don't.
[67:22]
AJ Hawk
No one's just. What's it.
[67:23]
Pat McAfee
What's it rhyme with?
[67:24]
AJ Hawk
Jj? We could always just dump it, too.
[67:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we'll dump it.
[67:26]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[67:29]
Pat McAfee
I don't think it rhymes with aeroids.
[67:31]
J.J. Watt
No.
[67:33]
Pat McAfee
Huh.
[67:33]
J.J. Watt
Bar fan. I mean, you can get it from that. Narcan. Yeah.
[67:39]
AJ Hawk
Oh, you're trying to save people from overdoses.
[67:42]
Pat McAfee
I think that would have been okay.
[67:43]
J.J. Watt
It was a. It was a bad.
[67:44]
AJ Hawk
What, you like overdoses?
[67:45]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, like, it was like a hefty back and forth where you're like.
[67:49]
Pat McAfee
Well, also, you kind of feel bad taking the money, I assume, too.
[67:53]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. You're. You're taking money because people are over. Like, I. I mean, this.
[67:57]
Pat McAfee
That would have been a very.
[67:58]
J.J. Watt
No, that might be.
[67:59]
Pat McAfee
We just did good commercial for Narans, Right?
[68:01]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, you're welcome. Send the $3 million.
[68:05]
Pat McAfee
No, but it is weird because you feel weird taking the money.
[68:08]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, Like, I'm like, I understand it.
[68:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I understand. I understand completely.
[68:12]
AJ Hawk
Man, you are a fool. Why didn't you.
[68:17]
J.J. Watt
But like those, you know.
[68:18]
Pat McAfee
Yes. That would be a tough thing.
[68:19]
AJ Hawk
That's why.
[68:20]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Like, you have to have those conversations with yourself.
[68:22]
Pat McAfee
That's more like an initiative as opposed to like a. A paid promotion.
[68:27]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, I don't know.
[68:27]
Darius J. Butler
It was.
[68:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I thought it was.
[68:30]
AJ Hawk
They're gonna overdose. Whether they. Whether you do it or not, jj, they're still gonna overdose. True.
[68:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[68:34]
J.J. Watt
But if you give them a solution for the overdose, maybe there's more overdoses. Because now you have an answer.
[68:40]
AJ Hawk
I think they know that solution is there already.
[68:41]
Pat McAfee
Well, and you gotta hope.
[68:43]
J.J. Watt
Why are you getting the commercial then?
[68:44]
Pat McAfee
That has.
[68:45]
J.J. Watt
Why do a commercial?
[68:46]
Pat McAfee
Three million bucks. Yeah, that is why. Listen, now I'm pissed because Now I'm down 3 million and we already talked about talking about. This is. Hey, good news.
[68:56]
J.J. Watt
Send it.
[68:57]
Pat McAfee
Send it.
[68:57]
J.J. Watt
I will accept it.
[68:58]
Pat McAfee
Burnley's back up. Yeah, that's not real quiet.
[69:02]
J.J. Watt
When we started that nominating the whole.
[69:03]
Pat McAfee
World, you think we paid attention? We did not know. We got quiet. Let you know that to be clear, found out you got up today.
[69:14]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[69:14]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations. We're very happy for you. So you guys are back in the Premier League.
[69:19]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. It's literally one of the greatest seasons of all time. Our guys are incredible. 100 points. Only gave up, I think 14 goals the entire season of all time. It's unbelievable.
[69:27]
Pat McAfee
We talk about financial stuff, you know, coming and going. This is good news. You guys are back in the Premier League, right? As an owner of an English soccer team.
[69:36]
J.J. Watt
Yes. Very good. Obviously extremely expensive to try and stay up and try and do everything, but. Yes. Being in the Premier League is.
[69:43]
Pat McAfee
Do we have a chance in the Premier League or are we going to. Are we going to do this dance?
[69:46]
AJ Hawk
No, they're bringing in Premier League. You should hear the plan.
[69:48]
Pat McAfee
You got Cristiano Ronaldo coming to the team.
[69:51]
J.J. Watt
I don't think so. But I do like to keep our transfer plans under wraps. So you never know. What about Lou Messi again, coming to the end of that Miami run? You just never know.
[70:01]
Pat McAfee
Well, Burnley is not a name. I think it's being talked about for Lou or for Christian Ronaldo. But maybe they should.
[70:06]
J.J. Watt
I mean, just keep things under wraps. Like those teams that fly under the radar, and then all of a sudden.
[70:10]
Pat McAfee
We'Re in the Premier League now.
[70:12]
J.J. Watt
Yes.
[70:12]
AJ Hawk
Lou and Ronaldo play together for the first time ever.
[70:15]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God.
[70:15]
AJ Hawk
For the. Claire.
[70:16]
Pat McAfee
They were thinking about that for the FIFA World Club cup or whatever. Isn't that true? That is on the table.
[70:20]
AJ Hawk
Cristiano is going to play for a team in that Club World Cup. We just don't know who it is.
[70:24]
Pat McAfee
I've touched that trophy. It's a real Deal.
[70:26]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[70:26]
Pat McAfee
It is the real deal, this trophy. It's almost also. For how much money for the winner?
[70:30]
AJ Hawk
$100 million. Cristiano free agent right now.
[70:33]
J.J. Watt
So if he wants to play on.
[70:34]
AJ Hawk
Carcaver tst, I'd like to say, you.
[70:37]
J.J. Watt
Know, come on down.
[70:38]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Next week. Tst down in Cary, North Carolina. Cristiano Ronaldo, you have a team. Conceifa. We are paying a little bit of money, too, so don't think it's just a charity opportunity here. We need you to play hard, too, Cristiano. We need you to know that this matters to. And more people are going to see this than what they've been seeing in America, not in the world.
[70:56]
AJ Hawk
Correct.
[70:56]
Pat McAfee
In America. So we need your gun score. Are you guys down on this year?
[71:02]
J.J. Watt
No.
[71:03]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I remember. It wasn't a lot better.
[71:08]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Who's down there?
[71:10]
Pat McAfee
Concave is down.
[71:12]
AJ Hawk
Oh, oh.
[71:16]
Darius J. Butler
Oh.
[71:17]
J.J. Watt
There goes my head.
[71:21]
Pat McAfee
I am suffering from an injury right here. You see?
[71:23]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
[71:23]
Pat McAfee
I'm still suffering.
[71:24]
J.J. Watt
Oh, no.
[71:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. From a brutal attack from going through a few weeks back in St. Louis. So I. I haven't been able to train as much because of this. So I am worried about my amount of minutes that I'm gonna get down there. But I want to let you know our roster.
[71:37]
J.J. Watt
That's what I heard last year.
[71:38]
Pat McAfee
Well, we didn't really know anything about it.
[71:40]
AJ Hawk
You made it to the quarterfinals first year.
[71:42]
J.J. Watt
What do you want from us?
[71:43]
AJ Hawk
How'd you guys do against Burnley?
[71:44]
Pat McAfee
Me? Oh, yeah. J.J. played the whole game and we beat their ass. I remember. I remember. Do you remember that?
[71:51]
J.J. Watt
I do remember you and Zach Knight.
[71:53]
Pat McAfee
Going at it in the back as if two Godzillas are battling on a soccer pitch. Might have been the biggest, most amount of meat bopping on a soccer pitch.
[72:01]
AJ Hawk
No doubt, in the history.
[72:02]
J.J. Watt
We're back.
[72:03]
Pat McAfee
You and Z.
[72:04]
AJ Hawk
No doubt.
[72:09]
Pat McAfee
Zach Knight will be back dying. He's going back.
[72:12]
J.J. Watt
You're not playing down there, am I? What?
[72:14]
Pat McAfee
Is Burnley going down?
[72:15]
J.J. Watt
No, we're not. Because you guys are in the Premier League. Focus locked in.
[72:19]
Pat McAfee
Well, Concave is going to get there someday. Especially with this roster we have this year.
[72:22]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[72:22]
J.J. Watt
Look out who we got.
[72:25]
Pat McAfee
Rosters were supposed to be revealed today. I believe we did get a graphic. I have no idea if it was uploaded. Yeah, because I did not afford it. I believe it got sent to Gumpy, who is obviously coach. One of the coaches of the team. He had two yellow cards last year.
[72:37]
J.J. Watt
I know. He's not gonna be allowed on the sideline. Yeah.
[72:40]
AJ Hawk
Give me. Yeah. Beat the hell out of an old.
[72:44]
Pat McAfee
If coach gets a red card. Do we have to play Donna, man? No, no.
[72:47]
AJ Hawk
You just get sent back.
[72:48]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
[72:49]
AJ Hawk
J.J. got.
[72:50]
J.J. Watt
You got sent out. I waited till after the game to get sent back and choke slammed an 80 year old.
[72:55]
Pat McAfee
Would have been surprised if Burnley was back Would have been surprised if Burnley was back at. Yes.
[72:59]
J.J. Watt
It might have been a mutual. There might have been a mutual.
[73:01]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think so.
[73:02]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[73:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And also it's a lot of time in carry. It's a lot of time in carry. North Carolina.
[73:07]
J.J. Watt
Beautiful play, beautiful people.
[73:08]
AJ Hawk
If we're. If we're being frank.
[73:11]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but teams couldn't survive if you weren't.
[73:13]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[73:14]
Pat McAfee
Like it got to the one game a day thing. That was really what extended the stay. That was really what extended the stay.
[73:20]
J.J. Watt
Your team was nowhere near practices extended.
[73:22]
Pat McAfee
Your team was nowhere near that practice. Your team was nowhere near.
[73:25]
J.J. Watt
Our women's team was. Our women's team was ready to. We were making a run.
[73:29]
Pat McAfee
And then what?
[73:30]
J.J. Watt
Then.
[73:34]
AJ Hawk
They were in the final eight.
[73:35]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, it was.
[73:36]
Pat McAfee
So are we. I cannot wait to get down to car North Carolina next week as we were last year. I don't know about my minutes. Bad injury age. Bad injury on my arm.
[73:45]
AJ Hawk
That's an up upper body, though.
[73:47]
Pat McAfee
You can.
[73:47]
AJ Hawk
You can still take a few nice shots though. You take a few cuts at it.
[73:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But remember, this is connected to this. Connected to this. I haven't been able to do this. And now, you know, there's P.K.
[73:56]
AJ Hawk
Maybe you're the designated P.K.
[73:58]
J.J. Watt
Guy. That's all.
[73:59]
AJ Hawk
You boot one through the stratosphere last year.
[74:01]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, what I realized when I was taking those free kicks and kicking one out of the stadium, which is how my soccer career potentially ended, ripping a hip flexor, kicking a free kick out of the stadium, out of the camera.
[74:12]
J.J. Watt
Shot, maybe out of any human eye.
[74:16]
Pat McAfee
Shot might be the way to go out. To be clear, now, I'm gonna play if I can. Going play if I can this upcoming week. But what I realized I was doing there, I was taking a free kick out of Meat. You know, out of Meats. Kind of like that guy actually should be kicking that ball. Or maybe Derek with the way he was hitting the ball.
[74:34]
AJ Hawk
I mean, Gordo, Gerson. Yeah, Red Boots.
[74:35]
Pat McAfee
I don't think Gordo or Red Boots will be taking any free kicks. But you never know. We're talking about the meat here. So me blasting one out of the stadium, potentially. You don't know who meat is? Meat beats your team's ass. You should maybe sign Meat Burn. Hey, why don't you. Yeah, he did. He gave you one of these. Hey. And you did a. I mean, send.
[74:56]
J.J. Watt
You for a hot dog. I'm a big guy. I'm not an idiot. You know, I like to get out of the way.
[75:00]
Pat McAfee
Well, he took you on a walk, bud.
[75:03]
AJ Hawk
And you like a dog.
[75:04]
Pat McAfee
You should sign him to Burnley.
[75:06]
J.J. Watt
Actually, I said all of our transfers are just me.
[75:10]
Pat McAfee
You should talk to me. We got somebody that'll talk to me.
[75:12]
AJ Hawk
Text Tyler, see if he'll do it.
[75:14]
Pat McAfee
Trying to do perfect.
[75:16]
AJ Hawk
JJ said he's actually the lead scout this year.
[75:18]
Pat McAfee
Well, that's good news. I said he'll do great at it. Ladies and gentlemen, let's get back to some sports. Tst. Next week, our roster will be revealed at some point.
[75:26]
J.J. Watt
AJ's on it.
[75:28]
Pat McAfee
AJ Hawk is vibes consultant.
[75:31]
AJ Hawk
Wow.
[75:32]
Pat McAfee
And our show will be there in Cary, North Carolina, which I don't even. I think you can get tickets to watch the tournament and they can come hang with us. It's a. It's a good setup for us, but not a good setup for, like, audience. You remember, because there's, like, a hill. Yeah. And the sun.
[75:46]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[75:46]
Pat McAfee
Hot. Very, very bright. So we'll be live from Cary, North Carolina, down at the soccer tournament. Fun time, fun atmosphere, fun tournament. I think they do a great job. The facility is beautiful. I mean, it's a great, gorgeous area. Down there for a long time, though. Down there for a long time. We'll have our show down there for two days, and hopefully it'll be a blast. Speaking of a blast, last night the Indiana Pacers moved to three to one against the New York Knicks in the Eastern Conference finals. It was a celebratory evening for everybody in Indiana, except for those Knicks fans that traveled out here to watch their team play in the Eastern Conference finals. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is one of those men. He joined us yesterday. What we learned is smooth.
[76:26]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[76:26]
Pat McAfee
Got a big jumper, six points a game in high school. You know, if you see somebody, ah, splash by, the perfect rotation, elbow tight, forehead to hoop. I mean, just absolutely perfect fundamentals. Six points a game. That's playing.
[76:44]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
[76:44]
Pat McAfee
You know, if somebody averages like one and a half, one point, two points a game, something like that, they're coming in garbage time. They're taking a seat. Six points a game is. We're getting some minutes. Oh, yeah, we're getting some minutes on here. Now, we're not getting the Rock in every situation, but we're fucking bopping A wood.
[76:59]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
[76:59]
Pat McAfee
We're bopping a wood on defensive side. And if we're in the corner and they need one, one bang, we're knocking it down. That's this man out of Freehold Township High School. Ladies and gentlemen, Emmy award winner Peter Schraggs.
[77:13]
J.J. Watt
Did you consider spell checking that tweet before you fired it out? Just a quick check.
[77:17]
Pat McAfee
What happened? What I do wrong?
[77:19]
Peter Schrager
What was wrong here? Six points.
[77:22]
Pat McAfee
Varsity.
[77:23]
Peter Schrager
Yes. Public school education. Jj, There it is.
[77:25]
AJ Hawk
Same here, brother.
[77:26]
J.J. Watt
Same here.
[77:27]
Pat McAfee
Varisti should have showed up up with the blue line underneath or the red line under it, but you capitalized it, so then they probably thought it was a title. Man, I'll tell you what. Smartphone, not smart enough in this situation. But our eyes, there's a trick. I think it's called something. If you just have all the letters of a word and the first letters right, and the last letters right, your brain will normally piece it together. Right. I think that is called something. I forget what it is. But Varisti here, I didn't even notice until you pointed out jj very. JJ Watt move there very to see the Varisti.
[77:56]
J.J. Watt
Sorry.
[77:56]
Pat McAfee
See the Varisti Shraggs. I was impressed with your shooting ability. I was also impressed with the New York Knicks watching them live. Now, obviously the Pacers get a huge win. Tyrese Halliburton goes Halibananas. Okay. He certainly did that in front Triple h, jelly roll, 50 cent, and a litany of people that traveled out to Indianapolis Indiana to watch this Eastern Conference final game, yourself included. What were your thoughts on the way out of there and what is your thoughts on the series now after getting a chance to experience that first off.
[78:25]
Peter Schrager
Incredible game day experience? I came in there as one of the few Knicks fans wearing the Knicks colors. And I've been in other buildings where you wear those colors and you get heckled the entire game. And all these Pacers fans were awesome. Everyone was respectful. And I'll tell you what I loved about it. Thirty minutes before the game, they're all in their seats and you've got Avicii levels just blasting da na na na na. And like, everyone's like, ready to go and it is party. And I'm like, oh, like, this is not going to be one of those where the fans come trickling in with about 10 minutes left in the first quarter. And okay, I'm getting my. This is in la. And in a lot of ways I've seen that Delta Lounge at the Garden, third quarters. Maybe it's not a full House to start the third. Everyone's still mingling at halftime. These Pacers fans brought it, and I felt like there was from no way, no point did the Knicks have control. We were just up one with, I think about a minute left in the second quarter. And I'm like, all right, let's go into halftime with a lead. And then the Pacers, they got that lead. And then, Pat, you talked about it to start the show. I don't know if the viewers at home have a grasp on the promo that you did and just how much it changed the energy in the building because the Knicks were coming and it was a down from like a 13 point game to a 7 point game. They give you the mic, you do this promo, you cut this promo, and you call out the celebrities, and it seems like we're all loving.
[79:50]
Pat McAfee
It's all great.
[79:51]
Peter Schrager
And you tell those SOBs to get on home. And it is such a moment in that building. If you watch it to the end of this video. And I'm not gonna make myself part of the story here, but you call out everybody. They cut to the crowd on this jumbotron, and it was my section, and I'm wearing my dumb Nicks hat, and I'm just sitting there giggling as you're taking everybody apart. Here you, Pat, watch this.
[80:14]
Pat McAfee
Freeze.
[80:14]
Peter Schrager
Frame it right here. You could see me. Wait, keep going, keep going.
[80:18]
AJ Hawk
There he is right there.
[80:26]
Peter Schrager
Loving it. I'm like, this is amazing. Now I make a plea to you. You've got enough connections through the NBA, through wwe, through espn. Dude, if you showed up at the Garden wearing like a TJ McConnell, like, t shirt jersey or something like, sit court side, keep this thing going. Pat, I think you would be a embraced in a way that everyone would love it because here you are, you're gonna pay it forward. We're gonna come to your building now. And B, I think if you haven't been to a game at the Garden yet, a playoff game, a do or die game, you will love it and see if your boys do win, which they might, you'll be on the court when the Pacers beat the Knicks in the Garden.
[81:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that'd be crazy. That'll be crazy. You know, first of all, appreciate you for coming to the city, hanging out with us yesterday, enjoying the game. We got some photos of you kind of going through the game last night and experiencing all the highs and lows sent to us because you were spotted by people that we knew. We love that you just came. Yep, there he is. Yeah, just bummed out Around a guy's ass. I. I think there was a chance that maybe some. Some outfits around you weren't necessarily your favorites as well, but I appreciate you.
[81:38]
Peter Schrager
There's a dude wearing Birkenstocks with no socks. It's like his toenails and my face. I don't know where you people from Indiana get your foot. This guy shows up wearing Birkenstocks. That guy with the Pacers jacket.
[81:49]
Pat McAfee
Nice, dude.
[81:50]
Peter Schrager
He was standing up the entire game. I'm staring at that.
[81:56]
AJ Hawk
His is, you know what?
[81:57]
Peter Schrager
The entire game. And finally I'm just like, I'm gonna sit in the aisle on my hand. Like, I'm just watching like this. But I respect it.
[82:02]
J.J. Watt
Are you wearing a button down over your knick shirt? I can't tell. I can't tell from here. Is that a button down that you're wearing?
[82:09]
Pat McAfee
That's a.
[82:09]
Peter Schrager
That is a flannel sweater, button down type deal, which I was not even wearing a Knick shirt. I was just wearing regular generic clothing. Nick's hat. JJ reporting the brand, but didn't want to go overboard with it. But this dude with the pace, like, I thought the. This was Detlef Shrimp or this was Vern Fleming with this old school Pacers, you know, windbreaker. He was wearing Birkenstocks. His pose all out, nice.
[82:31]
J.J. Watt
Heavy on the perks.
[82:32]
AJ Hawk
All right, bro, You.
[82:33]
Pat McAfee
You saw this guy. Because this guy was standing in front of you, and you were sitting down. You were just eyeing this guy. Okay, so I'm gonna stand this guy. This guy is in public like this. Unbelievable. And then the Pacers start to do what they do. It was. It was a magical night last night in Gainbridge. I was thankful to be there. Lucky to be there. We're appreciative of you coming out there, going to msg. That's a funny thought. I know how much we paid for our seats there at Gainbridge Fieldhouse. I couldn't even fathom, multiplied by three, what Madison Square Garden would be for those tickets. You talked about all those connections. I think even those connections have to pay for these things. From my understanding and how this is all going to.
[83:13]
J.J. Watt
Might want to get Narcan on the line.
[83:16]
Pat McAfee
Need two commercials to get out there to Madison Square Garden. But I thought about it last night, you know, especially after I was getting heckled and I heard a lot of people say, like, this type of stuff wouldn't happen in New York. I think I saw Ben Stiller say, wouldn't not happen, which I don't know if he meant Wouldn't not happen. As if it would happen, because that's a double negative there. I don't know. Wouldn't happen, maybe. And then he added the knot in his tweet. I was trying to figure out. I was trying to see if Ben Stiller was actually like, yeah, yeah, he def.
[83:43]
AJ Hawk
He definitely was. And someone also tweeted the video from last year of when the Knicks went up too low at in msg.
[83:50]
Pat McAfee
And they're chanting, fu, Reggie. Yeah. Yeah. And then Josh Hart comes over to clarify what they're saying. They're saying, you, buddy, is what they're saying in that entire thing. And I love that. I enjoy that. That's what I think sports are. Right. But I just. I found it awesome that, like, there were neat. Because I said, send these sons of homes with their ears ringing. Singing is what I was talking about because I wanted it to be loud because I heard.
[84:10]
Peter Schrager
I missed that part.
[84:11]
J.J. Watt
Everybody missed that part.
[84:14]
Pat McAfee
I did say it.
[84:15]
AJ Hawk
It's clearly.
[84:15]
Pat McAfee
Did he say it, Pete?
[84:16]
J.J. Watt
Did he say that I missed that part?
[84:18]
Peter Schrager
I blacked out once. I heard sobs and send them home.
[84:21]
Pat McAfee
I was like, see? Everybody gets distracted.
[84:24]
AJ Hawk
Turn this up.
[84:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because I heard. I heard the third game. Okay. Which some people might have missed.
[84:32]
J.J. Watt
Sure.
[84:33]
AJ Hawk
Most. Most people.
[84:34]
J.J. Watt
Nobody sleeps through it, right? Nobody.
[84:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Some people did, though, because Indy 500 Day was a long day.
[84:40]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[84:40]
Pat McAfee
Race day, you know, it was the way it was. Get in, get out there. And what Paulo did for first time in the history of Spaniard drivers wins the Indy 500. There's a lot of emotions there. So some people weren't maybe there for that game and were supposed to be certainly paid for a seat there and didn't. Didn't make it to it or whatever. I heard bad news out of gamebridge, though. I heard it was at the end of the game, was a little bit down. It wasn't as fast, wasn't as loud. So I literally. They weren't vrooming. Shregs was at both games. He obviously had much more fun on Sunday than he did on Tuesday. He said it was. He said, I didn't expect it to be as docile as it was now. The pacers were up 20, basically for the entirety, so maybe they got bored also. Long day, tired. So whenever they Hand me a microphone.
[85:22]
Peter Schrager
500, everyone had their vroom, vroom T shirts on.
[85:24]
J.J. Watt
Did you do the Indy 500, Shregs?
[85:27]
Pat McAfee
Did you do the Indy 500?
[85:29]
Peter Schrager
No, I did not.
[85:30]
AJ Hawk
No.
[85:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It would have been a long day. Wouldn't have been Able to do it.
[85:32]
J.J. Watt
That would be a hell of a day, though. That's a. That's an Indianapolis staple day.
[85:36]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you're racing and pacing.
[85:38]
AJ Hawk
Exactly.
[85:39]
Pat McAfee
Now, I just did some racing and snoozing and woke up, saw a game, watched the entirety minute from tip off all the way to the final, and then fell back asleep in that entire thing. But, yeah, I missed it. So whenever they give me a microphone for the fourth quarter, it's like, like, oh, I heard JJ's right.
[85:54]
Peter Schrager
I've never seen that in any sporting event. Forget just NBA basketball. Fourth quarter, I've never seen a fan. First Mike Epps got one, was fine in the third quarter. Then they give it to Pat McAfee in the fourth. I'm like, I've never seen this in the history of sport.
[86:06]
J.J. Watt
Wait, there were multiple mics.
[86:07]
Pat McAfee
Mike Epps? Yeah. You got Mike Epps in the building. You're going to give him a microphone. Mike Epps, Indianapolis legend, by the way.
[86:13]
AJ Hawk
And that was your angle, because Mike Epps was so. He did a long promo. Like pro Indianapolis Pacers. Let's go, guys. So you're only angry angle was the New York news fans that were there.
[86:22]
Pat McAfee
Mike Epps, actually. Yeah, he. He did his promo. And I thought to myself, okay, I don't have to do one. That is literally, I thought they. I did not know I was getting a microphone last night. I did not know that.
[86:34]
J.J. Watt
Come on.
[86:35]
Pat McAfee
Legitimately did not know. Had done it in the past. A year ago, I did one. It was like a regular season game, I think, and. But it was like a full thing. Like, I was there for Tyrese. Tyrese gave me the tickets. It was a full thing. I'm like, okay, so I'm sitting here, got free tickets. I could do a little, you know, we're doing an entire thing.
[86:50]
J.J. Watt
They hadn't shown you the whole night?
[86:52]
Pat McAfee
No, not once.
[86:53]
J.J. Watt
Oh, yeah. You're sitting there. Fourth quarter, like, they haven't shown me the whole night.
[86:57]
Pat McAfee
Third quarter, I was pumped.
[86:58]
J.J. Watt
Coming, like, third quarter, I was like, all right, come on.
[87:00]
Pat McAfee
Third quarter, I'm a. Okay. I literally thought it was not going to happen.
[87:04]
J.J. Watt
You're the king of the castle, okay?
[87:06]
AJ Hawk
I am not.
[87:06]
Pat McAfee
There was a lot of people that.
[87:09]
Peter Schrager
Showed on that jumbotron. Every single Pacers player who's ever played from 1976 to 2025. It was awesome. I'm seeing, you know, Danny Granger is in the house, Jermaine o' Neill's in the house. They also had, like, both Davis brothers. I'm like, Wait a second. Lefty out of Georgia Tech? I'm like, yes, they're all there. Then they go and they do some of the indie legends, which is cool. And you had Mike Epps and John Mellencamp.
[87:35]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[87:38]
Peter Schrager
Then you did get a triple H who was with Pat, but they didn't show.
[87:41]
J.J. Watt
Exactly. You knew this shit was coming.
[87:43]
Pat McAfee
No, I thought, for real, they were not. I thought. I was like, I, I. Because once again, I cannot stress this enough. The price paid a lot for those tickets was a lot of money.
[87:52]
J.J. Watt
You sitting in your seat, did you think to yourself, oh, they're saving him. They're saving him for the right moment.
[87:57]
Pat McAfee
You had to know that they were what was happening.
[87:59]
Peter Schrager
I was so confused because I showed every. I mean, I'm talking literally like, detlef Shrimp isn't here today, but let's show a picture of him. Just every pacer you could imagine. And I'm like, are they going to show? And then it was already like, fourth quarter, jj, Five minutes left. I'm like, I guess they're not going to show. I don't know what the deal is. Maybe he didn't want to be on camera, Maybe he wasn't. And then this moment, I'm telling you, it was like a 10 point game. Pat does his thing and it's like, let me hear that.
[88:26]
AJ Hawk
Boom, boom, boom.
[88:27]
Peter Schrager
Let me hear say way and the place go.
[88:35]
AJ Hawk
They brought in Mariano Rivera.
[88:37]
J.J. Watt
They saved you till the bottom of the ninth.
[88:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[88:39]
J.J. Watt
And they brought the big arm and they said, get him in here.
[88:41]
Pat McAfee
It was an honor to talk for the boys, you know, And I like this team. I literally knew 45 seconds before that I was talking, though. I would just like that to be done. That's a whole nother angle, guy. Good mc. Great MC Brings you, right?
[88:52]
Peter Schrager
Great mc.
[88:54]
Pat McAfee
He shows up with the microphone. And literally right, like 30 seconds before that, I'm like, are you doing an interview with me? Like, how's this gonna go? He goes, no, I'm giving you the microphone. I'm like, okay, shit, here we go. We're off and running. And then all of a sudden, you know, you gotta do what you gotta do. I will say, Timothy Chalamet being in Indiana, like you brought it up yesterday about him spending his Memorial Day traveling to Indianapolis to watch his Knicks play. It was very evident that he is a passion. Like, watching him react to the Knicks was so cool. Especially because he's gonna be the biggest actor on earth. He's the next one, right? He is.
[89:25]
AJ Hawk
He's one of the next guys. Yeah, for sure.
[89:27]
Pat McAfee
He's the next one. So, like, him loving sports as much as he does was awesome. Spike Lee, obviously been doing this for decades and decades in Ben Stiller. I don't think I knew he was as big of a Knicks fan as he is, but he clearly is. Traveled all the way out to Indianapolis multiple times to watch it. So, like, I thought it was, like, cool to see them. So, yeah, I mean, me shouting them out was in a. I'm telling you, it was out of a place of, like, respect.
[89:50]
AJ Hawk
If you wouldn't have done that, though, and you would have been, like, smooching their ass, like, they would have booed you.
[89:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, well, we gotta get. We can't be losing fourth quarter Schragers here.
[89:59]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[89:59]
Pat McAfee
You know, we can't be losing front of Shreks. I'm telling you. Came out of nowhere, had a good time, happy we won.
[90:05]
Peter Schrager
Shalom. When he won, he won, like, the SAG AFTRA Award. And he goes up there and gives a speech. You saw this, where he's like, this ain't a joke. This ain't a hobby. Like, I want to be the Michael Jordan of acting. And like anyone else says that, you're like, all right, tool. Like, get out of here. It was like. It, like, completely resonated with everyone. It's like, finally, someone with some bravado who's coming in here. Stiller, to his credit, this guy lives on, like, the Knicks Twitter page. Like, there's guys like, I hate Sean and Jonathan Macri and like. Like, Anthony msg, like, mixed Twitter people. And Stiller is on Twitter, like, engaging with them all day, all night.
[90:38]
Pat McAfee
65.
[90:39]
Peter Schrager
So he's legit, man. Like, these guys are real deal. That said, if you came to the Garden. I'm telling.
[90:47]
Pat McAfee
It's.
[90:47]
Peter Schrager
It's not. It's not just, like, next to him.
[90:49]
Pat McAfee
Do you have an extra $300,000? I mean, I don't even know what that could be. I honestly. Here we go to SeatGeek. Let's look for some. Oh, this is going to be tough to read. Can we zoom in on that at all? $47,969,000.
[91:06]
J.J. Watt
You got.
[91:07]
Pat McAfee
Is that for one.
[91:07]
J.J. Watt
For one ticket?
[91:08]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[91:08]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So those two right there, 47,000.
[91:12]
J.J. Watt
That whole row's open.
[91:14]
Pat McAfee
You can get it. They said, hey, listen, you can get it.
[91:17]
J.J. Watt
69,000 for about 15 seats. I mean, you're.
[91:20]
Peter Schrager
No, no, you need to be courtside.
[91:22]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[91:22]
Peter Schrager
You need to be court side.
[91:24]
J.J. Watt
I don't.
[91:24]
Peter Schrager
I don't need you seven throw. I need you court side.
[91:27]
Pat McAfee
$47,000 a ticket over there.
[91:30]
J.J. Watt
I mean, you've given away. You instill 10 times that on a kick on college game day. Come on, man.
[91:35]
Pat McAfee
Henry scores. Henry and Daniel, they deserve that. They're great kicks. A great kick.
[91:40]
AJ Hawk
You and still are next to each other.
[91:42]
Pat McAfee
When is that? This is Thursday.
[91:43]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[91:44]
Pat McAfee
Might have something going on Thursday, but if I can, I will certainly make it. I really. Yeah, I would.
[91:49]
Peter Schrager
I would love this so much.
[91:50]
J.J. Watt
That was incredible.
[91:51]
Pat McAfee
Shregs, are you going?
[91:55]
Peter Schrager
I'm gonna go if.
[91:56]
AJ Hawk
If I get back to seat.
[92:02]
J.J. Watt
Let's get a little zoom out. Where are we at? How's that ESPN deal? Where are we at?
[92:09]
AJ Hawk
Top six.
[92:09]
Pat McAfee
I think he'd go. How about right behind there at 3742? That seems like good seats. We got a 7.
[92:20]
J.J. Watt
7:30 up there at the top of State Building.
[92:24]
Pat McAfee
If I get a ticket out. Yeah, no doubt. 600 or 829 bucks up there. You'll see it. You'll see it. They say you'll be in the building. You'll be in the building where it happens.
[92:34]
J.J. Watt
Second to last row is a grand. What are we doing?
[92:36]
Pat McAfee
That's Madison Square Garden, brother.
[92:38]
AJ Hawk
That's me at the.
[92:39]
Peter Schrager
The Raising Canes in Penn Station. That's it.
[92:41]
Pat McAfee
There it is, all the way out there. Well, just know this. If I end up going, which would be very cool, I will say very cool, I will certainly get a ticket for you Shreks. Okay. I can say that you don't have to do that.
[92:52]
Peter Schrager
I just need you in the building. I just need the. I need you to experience. And if you do invite me, I would gladly come. I'll sit wherever.
[92:59]
Pat McAfee
But I really.
[93:01]
Peter Schrager
This is bucket list stuff, dude. The Garden and elimination game for your team.
[93:05]
Pat McAfee
Come on. Okay, so I would say we're gonna spend 70 grand on those tickets. We got 69 grand up there front.
[93:12]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
[93:13]
Pat McAfee
Shrag's up there. In a thousand, you'll be sitting like. That's kind of the Madison Square Garden thing is too. It like they are like on top of you there. Shrags. If I end up going, which is going to be a tall task, literally with my schedule, but if I ever make it, we will get you tickets. Let's talk a little bit about NFL. JJ brought up a Trey Hendrickson story a little bit ago. Is there any movement on that in your eyes? And what do you think is the deadline for that whole thing? Because Rapaport tells us on a regular basis. I think this is Going to get done. Yeah, I think this is going to get done. He said he thinks that the Bengals end up paying Trey Hendrickson. Do you agree with that or what are your kind of thoughts on how Trey Hendrickson ends up being an Indianapolis Colt this year?
[93:49]
Peter Schrager
It's such a unique situation because he's approaching it so much differently than we've seen players in the past. The 30 year old guy who met his wife in Cincinnati, had his kids in Cincinnati and loves being a Bengal. And instead of him going through an agent or doing these cryptic Instagram messages, is he straight up came on your show and then spoke with reporters and was just wearing his heart on his sleeve saying, this is what the market is paying these guys and I am grossly underpaid. I think it's fair that I at least get some sort of bump. And yet the Bengals entered this entire off season with this label of being cheap and being small time. And they broke the bank on what they thought was their top two priorities. Two wide receivers under the age of 30 who everyone expected was going to be one or the other in one fell swoop. They took care of both of them and they thought they had checked the box. Little did they realize that they would have this upset veteran player who happens to also be a wonderful member of the community and a great leader in the locker room who's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I want mine also. Ian might have a different read on it than I do. I just know they went into this offseason with priority one being Jamar Chase, priority two being T. Higgins. I'm not sure they saw this Trey Hendrickson thing approaching like it has. It's been a locomotive, and I don't know if it gets settled by the time we're at training camp.
[95:05]
Pat McAfee
40 million a year is the number Myles Garrett's getting to play the same position in the same state in the same division. Yeah, you know, so that happening Haslam. I genuinely believe that when Haslam agrees to these deals, he does think about the other owners that can't keep up, and especially in the AFC north in the entirety of it all and Myles Garrett getting that deal done. There's somebody in Pittsburgh that's upset. Let's not ask his brother about it.
[95:31]
AJ Hawk
No, don't do that. He'll be pissed.
[95:34]
J.J. Watt
I'm not pissed.
[95:36]
Pat McAfee
You have any updates?
[95:38]
J.J. Watt
I have plenty of. I have. I have all. I have all the information. I just can't share it.
[95:41]
Pat McAfee
Oh, wow. Isn't that nice? Do you have all the information on A.J. hawk's? Best friend. Because I've seen some reports that people are pissed that Aaron Rodgers isn't at OTAs for the Pittsburgh Steelers. He's not even on the team. On that note, DBOT has a question for you, Shreya.
[95:57]
AJ Hawk
Are there any people that are actually on teams that are that have not showed up to OTAs? I know Miles Garrett, he's in Tokyo or something like that. But he probably has his own offseason deal like a lot of vets do. But are there any other players maybe with some contract things going on that haven't showed up to OTAs that are surprising?
[96:13]
Peter Schrager
What's interesting is, first of all, I'm just a total. Darius Butler made about 16 shots at a 16 yesterday from three. And there's a video of me making taking two. Darius Butler did not miss a three point shot for the entire four hour show.
[96:27]
Pat McAfee
Darius is unbelievable in basketball. He is unbelievable. Yeah. You know when they used to do like the NFL, NBA players. NFL, NBA players. Conversation, rock and jock. Yeah. Okay, that was. That actually happened on mtv, I believe. And the four point shot that was way up in the sky was obviously something. Nobody ever mentions D butt as representing the NFL playing basketball. This guy still plays. Runs five on five.
[96:50]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
[96:51]
Pat McAfee
Still to this day. Legit on a regular basis.
[96:54]
AJ Hawk
Defense, though.
[96:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but you're practicing in here. You're practicing in here. You get reps. I mean, the guy's unbelievable. He's unbelievable at basketball.
[97:02]
Peter Schrager
Incredible. And like a very generous passer to gorgeous passes. Now look, I played in the Jersey Shore in a conference called A North, which if you're from New Jersey, you know, that was like the conference in a giant public school conference. So when I average six points a game, that is a badge of honor. That is something I am proud of. I started as a junior, get this. Then I come in as a senior as the captain and my coach, Brian Goll of the Fro Township Patriots, about three games in, it's like we got this sophomore dude who was dunking and I probably played like two minutes a game my senior year, which was heartbreaking.
[97:36]
Pat McAfee
Leadership, Leadership.
[97:37]
Peter Schrager
I was the James Johnson of that team. I was talking to the other coaches.
[97:42]
AJ Hawk
The other.
[97:43]
Peter Schrager
I was there as a song. You ask about A North. I mean, that's Quentin Nelson played in A North. And we had a bunch of dogs out of that conference and, and you know, CBA and Red Bank Regional, like real team. So I'm honored. I'm honored. So ask around. It's good. As for the players who didn't show up. Kirk Cousins not being at practice was a little interesting because there's all these different little milestone markers during the off season and the Falcons could have moved on from Kirk Cousins. Cousins March 10 he got a huge bonus. He collected that the draft everyone's filling out their stuff. They didn't trade them. And then right up here to OTAs it's like, all right, well there's some. And for Cousins as Shefter reported and Raheem Morris basically was being coy with poor. He's like, I didn't see Kirk today. So I, I don't know would he be there where that heads?
[98:29]
Pat McAfee
J J just said, why would he be.
[98:31]
J.J. Watt
I mean like we kind of knew he wasn't going to be there. Right?
[98:33]
Pat McAfee
No. Kirk Cousins leader of the team.
[98:35]
AJ Hawk
Drake still showed up. Show leadership.
[98:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[98:37]
Peter Schrager
You know I was a two points per game senior year guy. I showed up to all those practices. I wasn't making 30, $40 million. JJ so I don't know.
[98:46]
Pat McAfee
Maybe.
[98:46]
J.J. Watt
But you could make the argument that it's literally probably worse. I mean it depends. It all depends on how the attitude.
[98:52]
Peter Schrager
If you were to show up.
[98:53]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, but like because then it could take. Yeah. Who's taking the reps? How are we going to break this down? All these things and there's conversations that don't even. I mean that's my take on it currently.
[99:02]
Peter Schrager
That's actually a really interesting perspective and I love that we have that player perspective on that because to me as a. An outsider, I raised my eyebrows. Well that's interesting because they could have moved on from him and then he's not there and he's always been such a classy veteran and all along has been like I'll do whatever is necessary. But I had not considered that where hey, maybe if I'm there it clouds things for Pennix. Let him be the dog. Let him be the A guy. Let him run this entire three week process and then I'll show up at training camp. That could be very well.
[99:28]
J.J. Watt
I think it might be one of those situations where it's like we're not all going to play this little charade where I'm going to go out here and take reps and from guys who actually need reps and who want to get reps. Like we all know what's happening here. I'm not actually going to be like they have their guy. They, they've made that clear. Just go ahead, go with it.
[99:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Kirk can go build fires with the boys. Yeah, yeah. With the kids. Coop Coop, that's a good fire coupe.
[99:49]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
[99:49]
Pat McAfee
Kirk Cousins is the winner of that quarterback series in my eyes, in the wide receiver one and the other one that they did, which is really.
[99:57]
Peter Schrager
Yeah, everyone came in that.
[99:59]
AJ Hawk
That.
[100:00]
Peter Schrager
That show. Everyone came into that like, ah, Kirk's a little corny. He comes off not only as cool as hell, but also like, so dedicated and tough. And then he did all that stuff in his. In his house with his wife, like, where you're looking at him, like, memorizing plays. Like, I thought to your point, no one's brand or public image was built up more and increase and given a lot of goodwill than Kirk Cousins. And that's the guy he is, I think, from Atlanta.
[100:25]
AJ Hawk
No, we don't know that.
[100:26]
Peter Schrager
That's the thing.
[100:27]
AJ Hawk
It's like everyone assumed he's got a no. Yeah, he can.
[100:31]
Peter Schrager
He controls where he goes with the no trade clause. Great call. And also there was all these different milestones where they've already paid. Like they're giving him millions just by being on the roster throughout this offseason. Every single milestone. And he's still there. And to a man, Raheem Morris is like, he's going to be our number two. He's going to be there.
[100:47]
Pat McAfee
And.
[100:47]
Peter Schrager
And that's what we plan on having as. As our backup in the. In this. In this room. Now, as long as Pittsburgh doesn't have a quarterback, I'll always keep my eyes open on that. And I know that just because they never actually overlapped, the fact that Arthur Smith came from Atlanta and knows Terry Fontenot and knows Arthur Blank and knows what those guys. And like, they didn't end on horrible relations. To me, there's still a connection there. And then, oh, by the way, Mike Tomlin's best friend in the league is probably Raheem Morris. So to me, there's always an open line of dialogue, which is the most important thing. These people know each other. That if Rogers pulls the shoot or does something. Who knows? T.J. watts, quarterback, could be Kirk Cousins. If you're just looking to fill the seats on the carousel, pose the shoot.
[101:31]
Pat McAfee
Does that mean retire or.
[101:32]
Peter Schrager
Yeah, I don't know. I made that up. I don't know what that even means.
[101:35]
AJ Hawk
Pulls the shoot.
[101:35]
Pat McAfee
I think that's pretty good.
[101:36]
AJ Hawk
It sounded great.
[101:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, because, like. Yeah. And then he just kind of in the free fall. It made your point. I think it was a good. A good line because it definitely.
[101:46]
Peter Schrager
Avicii levels. Oh, I love that.
[101:50]
Pat McAfee
What was the song that played immediately after I spoke?
[101:53]
Peter Schrager
Let Me say way out, like, guy in the Birkenstocks lost his mind when they played that song. 7:30 at night. You've got your best Vern Fleming, you know, starter, windbreaker on. What shoes am I going to wear?
[102:11]
J.J. Watt
Socks.
[102:12]
Peter Schrager
Get them out of here. Give me the Birkenstocks.
[102:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I want to be comfortable out there. Might have to go walk a trail, you know, Might have to eat some granola. Maybe chew some bark.
[102:19]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, maybe choose some bark.
[102:20]
Pat McAfee
You never know. You never know what you're going to have to do.
[102:23]
Peter Schrager
By the way, cool as hell. Nice guy. Tatted up the whole thing.
[102:26]
Pat McAfee
I liked him, of course.
[102:27]
Peter Schrager
Just stared at his feet the entire game.
[102:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was better than viewing a quarter with Patriots getting a big time win over the New York Knicks. You talk about the Pittsburgh Steelers, maybe with Kirk Cousins. The story was if the Cleveland Browns don't take a quarterback at number two, they're going to trade for Kirk Cousins. Now, they have a lot of quarterbacks on their roster. Go ahead, Ty.
[102:47]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, Shrigs. Now, there's rumors floating around that there's. There's no way that the Browns are going to, you know, go into, maybe even camp or start the season with the four guys they have. Is there any chance that a. Another team is interested in one of their quarterbacks? And if they were to trade someone, like, are we strictly talking either Joe Flacco or Kenny Pickett here? Like, is there any chance that either one of the guys they drafted this year could potentially be moved before the season?
[103:16]
Peter Schrager
I just don't. What's the value on a Dylan Gabriel? No one knows, you know, what he is. And if they wanted him, they could have drafted him the first two rounds. So I would take Dylan Gabriel off of that Shador. Same thing. The issue becomes with Flacco. He was a free agent and Stefanski knows him. And I do value the personal relationships here. And in this, this case, you know, Flacco had options. Stefanski said you were comeback player of the year. He took us to the playoffs two years ago, like, come back to Cleveland. I, I'd be really hard pressed to think after they lured Flacco back to Cleveland, after he already signed with Indy last year for a year and came out that, that, that he would then be told, all right, sorry, we're getting, we're trading you. It'd be really rough on him. Pickett might just be the odd man out, just based on how it all went down. They traded for him, but it was more, hey, we've already got Flacco we don't know what we're gonna do with the young guys. We'll take Kenny Pickett.
[104:03]
Pat McAfee
Pickett.
[104:03]
Peter Schrager
Now, that said, if Kenny Pickett lights it up in the next few weeks and demands the room and does all that stuff, who knows? But to me, if you're looking at those four guys, who's the odd man out? I would just think based on relationships, value and what they can maybe get in return, I would think Kenny Pickett would be the odd man out of those four.
[104:19]
Pat McAfee
Fascinating. What is going to happen with Shador and Dylan Gabriel that is not talked about right now.
[104:27]
AJ Hawk
No. At all.
[104:28]
Pat McAfee
That's kind of gotten quiet. That's good, right? Just letting people do their job kind of work, do their thing. Do we expect that? I didn't. I don't think I expected that.
[104:37]
AJ Hawk
Wait till preseason.
[104:39]
Peter Schrager
I think. I think training camp will be a real testing ground for all these guys. And with Shador's case, I remember covering the Seattle Seahawks back in 2012 when they had a fellow Wisconsin Badger, albeit for just one year. But a fellow Wisconsin Badger showed up and there was already the late Trevoris Jackson who could play. And they already had Matt Flynn, who just had signed a massive free agent contract to AJ knows well. And Russell Wilson showed up the day he got there. And by the time it was the second week of preseason covering that team being in Seattle, no one could even deny that Russell was the best player in that room. And even the quarterbacks who were the veterans, the late Tavares Jackson and of course Matt Flynn, like they had to concede that, yeah, this guy's amazing. Like, he is a diamond. That was 2012. That was 13 years ago. Shador is going to probably have to have that kind of impact where it becomes undeniable to anybody. And that Kevin Stefanski, the head coach, is like, yes, the fourth quarterback in this room. When we stack it as far as chronological order goes, signing Joe, trading for Kenny, drafting Dylan, the fourth quarterback is by far the best guy and gives us the best option to win week one. That is an uphill battle that he can do because none of these guys are bonafide number ones per by any means. But it is an uphill battle for him as a day three draft pick to be the starting quarterback week one. And I think a lot of people are just opening the door like, hey, that could happen. It's an open competition. It's never really a true open competition because guys come in at different points on the roster and on the depth chart. Today he did take reps as the fourth quarterback taking reps. Yeah, he's fifth.
[106:11]
Pat McAfee
Round draft pick and Dylan Gabriel obviously drafted ahead of him in this particular draft. So that obviously builds up an animal. I don't want to say animosity, but a conversation or controversy just amongst those two, let alone the guy that led the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs two years ago in Joe Flacco being back in Kenny Pickett, who touched the ball last in the last Super Bowl. Good question, Kenny Pickett. So all through that quarterback controversy will obviously be a lot of chatter and a lot of conversation, but it's all because Deshaun Watson got $230 million there is trying to find anything he possibly can correct. And Shador slide to the fifth round. We'll see if it was warranted or justified or if maybe he's able to become a superstar. But what about Dylan Gabriel, third round pick? A lot more third round picks have gone on to start earlier than fifth round picks.
[106:52]
Peter Schrager
And clear clearly they wanted Dylan Gabriel on their team. They wouldn't have drafted him in the third round. They took a quarterback before Shador Sanders in this draft and that was Dylan Gabriel and everyone dismissing him because of what they all thought was gonna happen going into the draft. Granted, Shador might have had the bigger spotlight, but like they drafted Dylan Gabriel over Shador Sanders. So let's not cheat Dylan Gabriel out of that opportunity to win that job as well.
[107:11]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, absolutely. Dylan Gabriel, Big Ten champ. Dylan Gabriel goes over to Oregon, does phenomenal things now. They get doors blown off them in the Rose bowl, which I think is what a lot of people remember of that Oregon team. But that Ohio State team was going to beat anybody on that particular day.
[107:25]
AJ Hawk
That's right.
[107:26]
Pat McAfee
I do believe AJ Has a question for you, Shregs.
[107:30]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, Shregs. What about Jalen Ramsey?
[107:31]
Pat McAfee
I know McDanders came out and some.
[107:33]
AJ Hawk
There's nothing that's really happened. Where does he play next year, do you think?
[107:37]
Peter Schrager
Yeah, McDaniel was asked three questions on it back to back to back today. And usually Mike is so verbose and will go on a real tangent and actually speaks to the reporters like human beings and gives them answers. And today he went to like the company line was like, I'm only talking about guys who are here. So that tells me that they really are at a standstill there. Now the issue with Jalen Ramsey, AJ is that he makes $20 million a year. So someone is going to have to take at least some of that, you know, a big bulk of that. And the Dolphins are not Going to trade him $0.30 on the dollar. So everyone just assumes the Rams because he played there. I don't get the feeling the Rams are banging down the doors for the Miami Dolphins to trade them Jalen Ramsey so they can pay him 16, $17 million this year. As a corner, I think there is probably a better chance he is traded than him being there on the team. But I don't have a line or a list of teams that make sense at the moment just because of the salary and also, also because of this time of year. Usually it'll heat up more towards training camp.
[108:28]
Pat McAfee
Let's go to one half of the Hammer Cowboys. Live from Hammer.
[108:35]
J.J. Watt
Thank you, J. I'm trying. Man, that is hard. You guys are good.
[108:39]
Pat McAfee
I grew up with it. That's AP Tone back here.
[108:43]
AJ Hawk
I forgot about that. That's kind of cool.
[108:45]
Pat McAfee
What's that?
[108:46]
AJ Hawk
Ap?
[108:47]
Pat McAfee
Hey, you have a vote?
[108:48]
J.J. Watt
I gotta see your final ballots. By the way. I never saw him.
[108:51]
Pat McAfee
He's posted him publicly. We have. We believe in transparency around here.
[108:55]
J.J. Watt
I got to go check the.
[108:56]
AJ Hawk
We consulted and the truth.
[108:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Didn't he talk to you about it?
[108:58]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, no, he did.
[108:59]
Pat McAfee
And where'd he put tj?
[109:00]
J.J. Watt
I don't remember.
[109:01]
Pat McAfee
Third, I think.
[109:02]
AJ Hawk
Oh, man. I believe.
[109:04]
J.J. Watt
I believe it was second.
[109:05]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Of course. Tom, you have a question for Shregs.
[109:07]
AJ Hawk
Van Ginke was first. You know, just Van Ge had a great season. Yeah. Shregs, Buffalo Bills. Have we heard anything about James Cook? I know we talked earlier about OTA guy, guys who weren't there. What's his situation? Because I know he. I believe he's looking for 20 million.
[109:22]
Peter Schrager
Yeah, I don't know if it's 20, but it's significantly more than what I think the Bills are looking to extend him with this offseason. So there's going to have to be some. Some, you know, middle ground there. But when all these different running backs, whether it be Saquon or Derrick Henry, got their little bumps in pay here, and they were paid more than what they came in last year as free agents, I think James Cook and his agent probably looked at that and said, okay, well, let's take care of an aspiring or an ascending guy who was the best player on the field for them in a lot of games, and especially during the Chiefs when he had that insane stretch across the goal line. But that Brandon Bean's job this off season was to extend a lot of different guys. And, you know, I think they want to take care of James Cook, but not at the numbers that have Been tossed around at the moment.
[110:02]
Pat McAfee
James Cook let. James Cook was kind of their mantra. He sees Saquon Barkley sign a massive deal. He thinks to himself, excuse me, what's going on around here? I need my first big payday.
[110:15]
AJ Hawk
20 touchdowns.
[110:16]
Pat McAfee
Yep. Yeah. Why not?
[110:17]
AJ Hawk
Playoffs.
[110:17]
Pat McAfee
Good luck. Brandon Bean's got to get that figured out. He paid a lot of people. Yeah, they're in a transition process. I think James Cook is a great player. I hope they get it figured out. That team could go, especially in front of his new Bison.
[110:27]
AJ Hawk
That's right.
[110:28]
Pat McAfee
They got new bison outside the stadium. Have you heard about that?
[110:30]
J.J. Watt
No. I like to hear about this.
[110:31]
Pat McAfee
Okay. They're building a new stadium up there in Buffalo. It's going to be beautiful.
[110:33]
J.J. Watt
It's going to be.
[110:34]
Pat McAfee
Be gorgeous. What a great fan base.
[110:35]
J.J. Watt
Will it be done?
[110:37]
Pat McAfee
Probably not.
[110:37]
J.J. Watt
Okay.
[110:38]
Pat McAfee
Construction.
[110:38]
J.J. Watt
Yep.
[110:39]
Pat McAfee
Always gonna be delayed.
[110:40]
J.J. Watt
How it goes.
[110:41]
Pat McAfee
Always gonna be delayed. There's gonna be things, especially with the weather up there. I don't know how they get anything.
[110:44]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Open air stadium. Probably can't do too much work.
[110:47]
J.J. Watt
Saw the final beam, though. Final beam. That's a big day.
[110:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that is a big day. Have you seen the bison out front? No.
[110:51]
J.J. Watt
I need to hear about this.
[110:52]
Pat McAfee
So you know what a bison is?
[110:53]
J.J. Watt
I sure do eat them all the time.
[110:55]
Pat McAfee
Do you know what a buff. You do eat them because they're healthy.
[110:57]
J.J. Watt
Yep.
[110:58]
Pat McAfee
Do you know what a buffalo looks like?
[110:59]
J.J. Watt
I sure do.
[111:00]
Pat McAfee
What are the differences?
[111:02]
J.J. Watt
I don't know.
[111:03]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you don't know.
[111:04]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I know I, I. You asked if I knew what a buffalo looks like. I do.
[111:08]
Pat McAfee
What's it look like then?
[111:09]
J.J. Watt
The University of Colorado mascot. Ralphie.
[111:11]
Pat McAfee
No. So that's actually a bison.
[111:13]
J.J. Watt
Son of a. Yeah. Kidding me.
[111:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[111:16]
J.J. Watt
That's illegal.
[111:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that is a bison.
[111:17]
J.J. Watt
That's illegal.
[111:18]
Pat McAfee
That's like the buffalo advertising.
[111:20]
J.J. Watt
Thank you.
[111:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So they're gonna have bison. Actually, war buffaloes have these things here. They have these things here off their heads.
[111:25]
J.J. Watt
Well, that's a water buffalo. What's a regular buffalo?
[111:29]
Pat McAfee
So.
[111:29]
AJ Hawk
Good question.
[111:30]
Pat McAfee
That's just what it is. Yeah, it's a bison. Everything we've been calling a buffalo is.
[111:33]
J.J. Watt
Is actually a North Dakota State should take Colorado's mascot.
[111:38]
Pat McAfee
State is the bison. Yeah.
[111:39]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[111:41]
J.J. Watt
What the hell should be running around Folsom Field for a buffalo. Yeah.
[111:45]
Pat McAfee
One of these things.
[111:46]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, that's a water buffalo.
[111:47]
J.J. Watt
They're not called the water buffalo.
[111:49]
Pat McAfee
That's what a buffalo is.
[111:50]
AJ Hawk
Buffalo is.
[111:51]
J.J. Watt
So there's no recipe. Regular buffalo.
[111:52]
Pat McAfee
No, it's a Bison. Everything we've thought has been a buffalo has been a bison our entire. Sure, yes. Remember, we did this entire thing because whenever they. They put the. The new statues anyways. There's new statues coming in front of the Buffalo Bill. They're bisons, which is what the Colorado Buffaloes have.
[112:07]
J.J. Watt
So the Buffalo Bill on the helmet is a bison.
[112:11]
AJ Hawk
Play a buffalo bison.
[112:12]
J.J. Watt
But they're technically that. That's fine because they don't call themselves the Buffalo Buffaloes.
[112:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. They're just from buffalo.
[112:18]
J.J. Watt
It's fine.
[112:19]
Pat McAfee
Anyways, they're gonna have to have bisons. How tall are these things going to be off?
[112:23]
AJ Hawk
About 18ft, I believe.
[112:24]
J.J. Watt
How many of them?
[112:25]
Pat McAfee
Three.
[112:26]
J.J. Watt
Okay.
[112:26]
AJ Hawk
It's that high.
[112:27]
J.J. Watt
We have bulls outside of NRG Stadium in Houston. Bull versus Bison.
[112:32]
Pat McAfee
How big is the bull?
[112:34]
J.J. Watt
Very large.
[112:34]
Pat McAfee
How big? Do you know the feet?
[112:35]
J.J. Watt
I don't know.
[112:36]
Pat McAfee
Does it feel like it's big enough?
[112:39]
J.J. Watt
It's. It's, it's big.
[112:40]
AJ Hawk
Can you walk between its legs?
[112:41]
J.J. Watt
You could. You could walk under it. Yeah.
[112:43]
Pat McAfee
Can you hop on its back? Ride it like a. Like a buck bull? You'd have to climb, but you could get upper.
[112:50]
J.J. Watt
I would say you could.
[112:51]
Pat McAfee
Two J.J. watts could toss up her.
[112:54]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[112:55]
Pat McAfee
So it's about 12ft.
[112:56]
J.J. Watt
I would say 12ft to probably accurate. No, I think it's a little taller than 12ft.
[113:00]
Pat McAfee
You think that's on a pedestal?
[113:01]
J.J. Watt
It's on a pedestal.
[113:02]
Pat McAfee
If the chest or the head.
[113:03]
J.J. Watt
I think the top of the head is probably 20ft.
[113:06]
Pat McAfee
So that seems like a big ass.
[113:07]
AJ Hawk
That's a big.
[113:08]
J.J. Watt
That's a big ass on a pedestal. The pedestal. I am counting the pedestal.
[113:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, because that. That's the base of the trophy.
[113:14]
J.J. Watt
Correct.
[113:14]
Pat McAfee
So do people take pictures in front of it?
[113:16]
J.J. Watt
They do.
[113:17]
Pat McAfee
See, this is what. This is the research that buffalo needed to do for their bison on why.
[113:20]
J.J. Watt
They don't have these things.
[113:22]
Pat McAfee
Everybody thinks that the bison is going to be too small.
[113:24]
J.J. Watt
We don't have a rendering. We have renderings of everything in today's world.
[113:26]
Pat McAfee
The renderings have them very large.
[113:28]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[113:28]
Pat McAfee
And then the real size came out and everybody's like, wait a minute, we got baby ass bison.
[113:31]
J.J. Watt
Oh, no.
[113:32]
Pat McAfee
Show continues. Yeah. Then the mammoths are going to have to put some mammoths outside.
[113:35]
J.J. Watt
Those are going to have to be sick. Great recommendation, by the way.
[113:38]
Pat McAfee
Thank you. We did a little good brain storming. We're going to end here on espn. We'll continue digitally. The show stinks. We know that. You don't have to tell us, but if you'd like to continue to watch. We'll be on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney plus and Tik Tok Live. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. The Indiana Pacers are one win away from going to the NBA Finals. It's going to be a tough one over there in Madison Square Garden. This Knick seems tough. Their fans are dedicated and loyal, but so is the Indiana Pacer faithful. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life.
[114:06]
AJ Hawk
Life.
[114:06]
Pat McAfee
Including Ben Stiller. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. All right, we nailed it. Okay, let's get back. I was just trying to fill their shreds. I was just trying to fill there because we had a heart out. So I went to the Bison talk. You just.
[114:17]
J.J. Watt
There's no way that's correct.
[114:19]
Pat McAfee
All right.
[114:21]
J.J. Watt
Somebody filled me. I mean, I don't. That's insane.
[114:23]
Pat McAfee
We had a tough day. We did it live on the air.
[114:26]
J.J. Watt
Really?
[114:26]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[114:26]
Pat McAfee
That's the only reason I know this.
[114:27]
J.J. Watt
And, like, did somebody from the University of Colorado reach out and say, like this?
[114:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they did, actually. You're right. Right? They did. They called our show because what we did in a brainstorm session, live on air, and they said, you guys, really, you got to get to the bottom.
[114:40]
J.J. Watt
University of Colorado. Somebody out there. I mean, Dion's on socials everywhere. He's gonna see.
[114:44]
Pat McAfee
Look.
[114:44]
J.J. Watt
You gotta see this.
[114:45]
Pat McAfee
Look, brother.
[114:45]
J.J. Watt
We need the buffalo answer.
[114:48]
Pat McAfee
Bison. Plains bison. Bison. Bison. Bison.
[114:51]
J.J. Watt
I agree. That looks exactly like Ralphie.
[114:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Woods, Bison. Bison. The buffalo's got the horns. That's what they are. Wow.
[114:58]
J.J. Watt
Got a Cape buffalo and water buffalo. Two very different things there.
[115:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Similar horns, though just one's a little bit more worn in.
[115:05]
J.J. Watt
So how.
[115:06]
Pat McAfee
A little bit more fresh. The water buffalo have fresher horns.
[115:09]
J.J. Watt
I'm baffled right now at how they have gotten away with this for 100 years.
[115:12]
AJ Hawk
You're allowed to call a bison a buffalo. There's no crime against it. No one's going to fight you.
[115:16]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
[115:16]
Pat McAfee
Nobody's going to arrest you.
[115:17]
AJ Hawk
It's not technically correct.
[115:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[115:18]
AJ Hawk
You're just wrong. 20, 25. Just call anything.
[115:20]
J.J. Watt
So it'd be like the. It'd be like the New Orleans Pelicans having a toucan as their mascot.
[115:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but calling themselves a pelican.
[115:26]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, but calling themselves a pelican.
[115:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I mean, pretty disrespectful, I guess. The bison, I think, kind of through this whole thing.
[115:31]
J.J. Watt
I guess that's really the core of. I'm really upset on behalf and you have the bike. You started this whole thing.
[115:36]
Pat McAfee
I eat them every day. That's what you're eating, brother. You're eating a buffalo.
[115:40]
J.J. Watt
Oh, man. My son eats them, too. He loves. Loves bison, probably.
[115:44]
Pat McAfee
Take it.
[115:44]
J.J. Watt
I mean, it doesn't matter. It's very good for you. But maybe I'm more. I've met Ralphie. I visited the University of Colorado. I feel like I was like. To.
[115:53]
AJ Hawk
You were.
[115:54]
Pat McAfee
I don't think.
[115:55]
AJ Hawk
His name's not even Ralphie. Oh, you're right.
[115:58]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if it's a he either.
[115:59]
J.J. Watt
No, we don't know anything.
[116:00]
Pat McAfee
We don't know anything. Yeah, well, we do. We do, actually, because we told you this.
[116:04]
J.J. Watt
Feel like you got to get Ben Stiller on the show. Random thought.
[116:07]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if that's gonna happen.
[116:09]
J.J. Watt
Has to happen. He needs to clarify his tweet, and I need to know if he's actually upset or not. I don't think he's still around.
[116:14]
AJ Hawk
He needs to clarify.
[116:15]
Pat McAfee
I was reading the tweet. I was literally reading. He. Conor has cinematic questions as well, I do believe. Yeah.
[116:22]
AJ Hawk
Gripes.
[116:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But Ben Stiller has created some bangers throughout my life, which is why when I saw him, I was like, this is pretty sweet. And then I was reading his tweets. I'm like, ben Stiller's not actually.
[116:31]
AJ Hawk
I personally didn't think. I didn't think he was Severance.
[116:35]
J.J. Watt
He woke him on the show. I believe Severance is him.
[116:38]
Peter Schrager
Escape from what is it Anamora?
[116:39]
Pat McAfee
Whatever.
[116:41]
Peter Schrager
He's not a silly guy necessarily. Now he's a director.
[116:44]
Pat McAfee
Okay. He's not either, Pat.
[116:46]
AJ Hawk
He's not an athlete. He didn't know how to go back and forth with athletes like that. You do.
[116:49]
Peter Schrager
He's not Hollywood kid. He's a little different.
[116:53]
Pat McAfee
We appreciate the hell out of you. I love you guys. Soon. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen. He's got a sports center in two minutes.
[117:00]
J.J. Watt
Great guy.
[117:01]
Pat McAfee
He's got to fix that hair.
[117:02]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[117:02]
Pat McAfee
Has a hat on.
[117:03]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. On SportsCenter.
[117:05]
Pat McAfee
Can't be doing that at all.
[117:06]
AJ Hawk
No.
[117:07]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Let's get to a break. On the other side, we have a national champion joining us. We have a man from a family of lacrosse players joining us that we just learned about recently. Should know about dog cj. Cursed is his name. Jj. Do you know him?
[117:22]
J.J. Watt
I do now. Comes from a great family. Cross players.
[117:27]
Pat McAfee
That is acting.
[117:27]
AJ Hawk
Well done.
[117:28]
Pat McAfee
Big cursed. What he was able to do with the stick man. And then second big curse.
[117:33]
J.J. Watt
Yep.
[117:34]
AJ Hawk
Nasty M Third big curse. Cursed three curse.
[117:37]
J.J. Watt
So many of them.
[117:38]
AJ Hawk
Like the Elias family. No different. They didn't grow up in Pittsburgh.
[117:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[117:44]
AJ Hawk
The curse are actually from not Pittsburgh, I think Jersey.
[117:50]
Pat McAfee
Somebody here should have done research on this curse family. We're gonna do that right now. Quickly. We're gonna do that right now. Quickly.
[117:56]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
[117:56]
Pat McAfee
Absolute dog. The cursed family. From what we've been told from other people we know run the curse lacrosse family.
[118:04]
J.J. Watt
I got a lot of questions, so.
[118:05]
Pat McAfee
Perfect. Good. Good family. Represent lacrosse is what I'm being told. What I'm being told is good family. Chit chat about lacrosse. Just had one of the greatest years in the history of college lacrosse. Tied the goal scoring record in the history of college lacrosse and won a national championship. This guy had 6 goals. What was it? How many goals?
[118:21]
AJ Hawk
6 goals. Tie the record at 82. Also has the most points ever in a career. Has the most goals ever in a career. And yet, Yes, I did remember he is. They are from New Jersey and he's.
[118:30]
Pat McAfee
Six goals in the national championship.
[118:32]
J.J. Watt
I did. I saw this highlight reel the other day. I was.
[118:35]
Pat McAfee
He's a freight train.
[118:36]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[118:36]
AJ Hawk
He's a dog.
[118:37]
Pat McAfee
C.J. curse. Cannot wait to talk to him on the other side. Congrats to Cornell. We continue to be a lacrosse. A pro lacrosse show.
[118:44]
AJ Hawk
Absolutely.
[118:45]
Pat McAfee
A Pro Lacroix Go Show.
[118:47]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[118:48]
Pat McAfee
GoPro La Croix Show. Just like we've been saying this entire time.
[118:52]
AJ Hawk
Exactly.
[118:53]
Pat McAfee
Did you ever play lacrosse out there in Wisconsin?
[118:54]
J.J. Watt
No. It started to pick up right near the end. I I in Wisconsin. It was hockey was still the winner.
[118:59]
Pat McAfee
You're a hockey player, right?
[119:00]
J.J. Watt
Yes.
[119:00]
Pat McAfee
Did you hear what the Oilers did to the Stars last night?
[119:03]
J.J. Watt
I did.
[119:05]
Pat McAfee
Oh, it's over. It's over for Texas hockey. Not over.
[119:09]
AJ Hawk
We'll win game five, then we'll see what happens after that.
[119:12]
Pat McAfee
But we ain't dead yet. We ain't dead yet. They're playing labomba up there.
[119:16]
AJ Hawk
You want to know what happened with the Oilers? The Oilers get very hot and they get very cold. You just got to get them once.
[119:21]
Pat McAfee
Congrats to the Oilers 41 win over the Dallas Stars last night. Obviously, we were paying attention to the Pacers Knicks game because we were actually there. Got a chance to catch the highlights. It was only two one, then two empty netters.
[119:31]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[119:32]
Pat McAfee
So score a little bit different than how the game actually went, but four one still a massive win for the Oilers as they move 3 to 1 against the Dallas Stars. And it does feel like we're heading towards a. A potential rematch.
[119:44]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Four series, three. One from both in the NBA and both in the NHL.
[119:48]
Pat McAfee
All right, let's get to a break on the other side. We got a national champion joining us. We can't wait to talk to him, learn about him and his family. Can't wait to learn about lacrosse more. I become an NL Guy.
[119:57]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. The kids all know about. The kids all know curse. Believe me, they all love watching them.
[120:01]
Pat McAfee
Oh, really? The lacrosse?
[120:02]
J.J. Watt
Oh, yes. You're in touch with my son?
[120:04]
AJ Hawk
All of his friends mention they talk about him.
[120:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, for sure. He's got a lacroix family. The Hawks. Yeah, the hawks do. Lacroix.
[120:12]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[120:12]
J.J. Watt
I don't doubt that at all. I bet they beat the out of people with those sticks.
[120:15]
Pat McAfee
They do, yes. Well, in the girls game, you're not allowed to, right?
[120:19]
AJ Hawk
No.
[120:19]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
[120:19]
Pat McAfee
Girls are stupid.
[120:20]
AJ Hawk
They should let them play like the boys.
[120:22]
Pat McAfee
Legit, right? I was watching my daughter.
[120:23]
AJ Hawk
My daughter plays and she wants to wear pads and hit like everybody else, but they don't. The girls, the rules are crazy.
[120:28]
Pat McAfee
It's vastly different, Right? It's like a vastly different game. Different because I was watching. I was watching the college. Because the college girls was happening over the last couple weeks as well. North Carolina, Congrats to unc. So I was watching it and it was like, oh, this is a lot different. And there wasn't. It was.
[120:41]
J.J. Watt
It's like flag football versus real football.
[120:43]
Pat McAfee
Well, we'll get into that too. J. J got some thoughts on that. J.J. got some flag football thoughts. A.J.
[120:48]
AJ Hawk
Oh, what position you want to play.
[120:51]
Pat McAfee
J.J. he wants to play actual football.
[120:55]
J.J. Watt
I can't hit anybody. It doesn't matter.
[120:56]
Pat McAfee
I think that's his whole. We'll talk about that. We'll talk lacrosse. Be a friend. Tell friend something nice about Change your life. Take five.
[121:06]
J.J. Watt
If you want tools that stand the.
[121:08]
Pat McAfee
Test of time without testing your wallet, harbor freight is the place for you.
[121:12]
AJ Hawk
Expert engineers design and rigorously test harbor.
[121:16]
J.J. Watt
Freight tools to bring you top quality.
[121:18]
Pat McAfee
Whether your next project is big or small. Harbor freight carries a wide selection from.
[121:24]
J.J. Watt
Hand tools to power tools to automotive tools and welding equipment. And with prices lower than other top brands, but with the same top quality.
[121:32]
Pat McAfee
You'Re getting more for your money.
[121:34]
AJ Hawk
At harbor freight.
[121:35]
Pat McAfee
There are over 1, 500 Harbor Freight.
[121:38]
AJ Hawk
Stores in the U. S. So come see for yourself.
[121:40]
J.J. Watt
Whatever you do, do it for less.
[121:42]
AJ Hawk
At harbor freight.
[121:46]
Pat McAfee
Sports.
[121:48]
J.J. Watt
That threw me off d. But what I do. I thought you were.
[121:51]
Pat McAfee
I thought I was about to go right now. Oh, you look like Dr. Jeff Landry right now.
[121:55]
AJ Hawk
No, no, no.
[121:59]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
[122:00]
J.J. Watt
I thought that was the. And then I. I'll get it. Maybe. Maybe four. Maybe.
[122:04]
Pat McAfee
Excuse me. The hair looks great review. Wow. I'm happy. Why you didn't want that on tv you said I'm not ready to date. Oh. Cuz you with new hairstyles does become a thing. You remember when he did them?
[122:14]
AJ Hawk
Oh yeah.
[122:15]
Pat McAfee
You remember that.
[122:16]
J.J. Watt
This is hat here. I mean this was just on, but yeah, it is. It is push back.
[122:19]
Pat McAfee
What was your tweet after the. The debut of a new. Do you ever wonder if anybody will notice when you change your hair? They do notice, I believe is what you.
[122:28]
J.J. Watt
A lot of people noticed.
[122:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[122:30]
J.J. Watt
Super Bowl. It was the Super Bowl.
[122:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. This hair. Phenomenal.
[122:34]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Thanks.
[122:35]
Pat McAfee
You're looking like a superhero working on it.
[122:38]
J.J. Watt
I appreciate it.
[122:39]
Pat McAfee
Are you gonna let it grow?
[122:40]
J.J. Watt
I'm trying. I'm gonna see. Yeah. I mean we got obviously on air in the fall, so I got to see if it looks.
[122:45]
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah. Hey.
[122:46]
J.J. Watt
Time.
[122:47]
Pat McAfee
He's commentating games. Full slate CBS2 overall booth. Congratulations, dude. Yeah. Ian Eagle is obviously a pillar of sports commentary, but also very good at his gig. I think he's going to set you up to be fantastic. You wanted to call games.
[123:00]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. I mean I got the taste of it in that Christmas Day game. Chief Steelers and being in the stadium, being around it. Iron Eagle is literally one of the best in the business. He's incredible. He's going to make me look good. So I'm very excited.
[123:11]
Pat McAfee
This hair is good for the booth.
[123:12]
AJ Hawk
Yes, it is perfect.
[123:13]
Pat McAfee
This hair is very good for the booth. We'll get back to that after our conversation with a man who is recently a national champion. Recently a record breaker in our lacrosse source says are telling us that this guy is about to be very important call. I do not need to answer that. Well, I do not need to answer. People are making calls trying to get me to Madison Square Garden now. You know, like that is what happens whenever this takes place. It's like I don't even know if it's possible schedule. It's possible, isn't it? Don't you think it is. I'm like, I don't know a lot of calls. I appreciate everybody doing that. This man who's about to join us from what we were being told by our source says in the lacrosse world is going to be. I forget the number.
[123:56]
AJ Hawk
The fifth. Fifth ever number one pick in PLO.
[124:01]
Pat McAfee
And the Nlock fifth time ever where it'd be the number one pick. This guy's style of lacrosse could fit in box lacrosse and field lacrosse, I believe, is the two different styles of lacrosse. Pll Paul Rabel. Big field, big field. They're running a lot. College lacrosse, same thing. NLL Chase Frazier.
[124:19]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, Chase.
[124:20]
Pat McAfee
A lot of this, a lot of this. Lot feels like lot of that, lot of brawling. This guy's good for both because he's an absolute dog, a freight train, if you will, who has the skills that could only come from a family of lacrosse players that have committed their entire lives to the sport. And he has been repaid mightily. Gonna win the Tuareton.
[124:42]
AJ Hawk
Yes.
[124:43]
Pat McAfee
Has won the national championship, Ladies and gentlemen, out of Cornell. C.J. curse. Oh, yeah. How you doing, bro? Let's go. How we doing?
[124:54]
AJ Hawk
Thanks for having me.
[124:54]
Pat McAfee
Hey, how are you doing, man? Where are you headed right now? And is that the TR trophy? How's it been? Has it been glued to your side since the moment you won it? Yup.
[125:04]
AJ Hawk
There we go.
[125:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we're on the way to D.C. for the tournament ceremony with my buddy, Walker Wallace.
[125:11]
AJ Hawk
All American defender.
[125:14]
Pat McAfee
Wallace, baby. Yeah. Yeah. Love that.
[125:17]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, we're having a blast.
[125:18]
Pat McAfee
How's it been as a national champion? I've been told from my source close to the Cornell camp that you guys have enjoyed this winter, and you are kind of an old school style team where obviously a lot of work, a lot of grit, a lot of time and energy was spent into winning this national championship, not only for Cornell, but the Ivy League, you know, after the ACC kind of was running rampant with the entire thing, and then you guys enjoyed the hell out of it and had good team camaraderie around it. How has it been as a national champion, cj? Is it everything that you had hoped for it to be?
[125:52]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, it's been incredible.
[125:53]
Pat McAfee
I mean, we, Cornell alone hasn't done it in over 50 years. And, you know, to bring the trophy back and, you know, all the support.
[126:01]
AJ Hawk
And just seeing everyone over the past.
[126:03]
Pat McAfee
Couple days and knowing how much work.
[126:05]
AJ Hawk
Everyone'S put into it, it's an incredible.
[126:07]
Pat McAfee
Feeling and it's special being able to hold this thing. It's a dream come true. You had six goals in the national championship that led to you breaking numerous records or even tying some records that nobody thought were ever going to be broken. Absolute dog. And also, as we learned your story and your family story, your mom's an absolute beast, huh? The mom. Mom of cursed is an absolute beast over there. Can you talk about her a little bit? And can you talk about your family being a lacrosse? A royal family in Lacrosse as a whole?
[126:37]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. No, my mom's the best. She's our rock.
[126:39]
Pat McAfee
She's.
[126:40]
AJ Hawk
She's been there, supported us every step of the way. Incredible motivator.
[126:44]
Pat McAfee
And, you know, all my brothers as well, you know, Connor, Colin, Cole, Cadence, and being able to give them a.
[126:50]
AJ Hawk
Hug after the game was an incredible feeling.
[126:53]
Pat McAfee
And, you know, I wouldn't be here.
[126:55]
AJ Hawk
Without them, so I'm super thankful for.
[126:57]
Pat McAfee
All them and all the support they've given me over the years. So your family fully committed to lacrosse? Did you guys play any other sports? And when did you figure out, like, oh, this is the one that Connor, Cole, Kaden and CJ in right there? I was so close. Yeah. Anyway, anyways, when did you guys decide that lacrosse was going to be the sport that your entire family was going to dominate?
[127:20]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, no, we grew up playing everything.
[127:22]
Pat McAfee
Everything you can imagine. And then, you know, our dad played.
[127:25]
AJ Hawk
In college, played at Rutgers, and then he coached us when we were little.
[127:29]
Pat McAfee
And, you know, all our buddies always loved lacrosse. And, you know, when we were younger.
[127:34]
AJ Hawk
That'S what we love doing. And that's kind of what we gravitate. Gravitated towards when we were a little kid. So, you know, that that's the sport we love. And, yeah, we always play lacrosse.
[127:45]
Pat McAfee
Rest in peace to your father. He's looking down watching you guys dominate the sport, and I assume he's incredibly proud and happy with what the boys have accomplished. Your brother plays at Rutgers, I do believe, currently. So obviously, the family is being represented in the sport mightily. Go ahead, A.J.
[128:00]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, C.J. can you take us back to those. I know you guys had some battles in the backyard. I've read about where you guys just go beat the hell out of each other with those lacrosse sticks and everything. What was that like? And how did that.
[128:10]
Pat McAfee
Does that kind of propel you into.
[128:11]
AJ Hawk
The trajectory you're on? Obviously, number one pick to the water dogs. Everything that you've just done, like, how when you look back, did that prepare you for everything going on? Yeah, 100%.
[128:21]
Pat McAfee
I mean, growing up, having, you know.
[128:23]
AJ Hawk
My older brothers never take it easy.
[128:24]
Pat McAfee
On me, you know, and then having.
[128:26]
AJ Hawk
Kaden as my younger brother and trying.
[128:27]
Pat McAfee
To, you know, be hard on him, you know, that's what motivated me to get here.
[128:31]
AJ Hawk
I mean, that's the reason why I'm.
[128:32]
Pat McAfee
Here, you know, playing with them and.
[128:34]
AJ Hawk
Especially being that little kid dreaming about playing on a big stage like this and. And, you know, just competing with them.
[128:39]
Pat McAfee
And seeing how hard they worked, you.
[128:41]
AJ Hawk
Know, and I wanted to Be just like them and, you know, super thankful that, you know, they taught me everything they know, and that's the reason why I'm here. So, you know, I love them to death for everything that they've given me.
[128:51]
Pat McAfee
I love that you continue to compete while getting your ass beat. You know, like, that is. That's a little brother syndrome in an entire thing. And if you keep going, obviously, the benefits will be there from all of it. Why do you think your style is good for the people and the nll? We looked it up. Only five people in the history of lacrosse have been the projected number one overall picks for both very different styles of play, I do believe. Why do you think that is the case for your style of play? And have you always been like this? Yeah.
[129:19]
AJ Hawk
I mean, box across alone is probably, you know, the most physical and the hardest game version of lacrosse there is that's out there.
[129:26]
Pat McAfee
And, you know, being able to play.
[129:27]
AJ Hawk
That in Canada a couple summers ago and. And learning how hard, how difficult that.
[129:32]
Pat McAfee
Is, and then, you know, being able.
[129:34]
AJ Hawk
To, you know, play in college and.
[129:37]
Pat McAfee
You know, learning the game at.
[129:38]
AJ Hawk
At the highest level, you know, it. You got to figure out ways to score. You got to figure out different ways.
[129:44]
Pat McAfee
To play, and, you know, you can't.
[129:46]
AJ Hawk
Do it the same way. You got to bring a different version.
[129:48]
Pat McAfee
You know, on game day.
[129:49]
AJ Hawk
And so, you know, I think that's why the game is so great, because you can be so creative, you can have so much fun with it, but, you know, there's so many styles out there that. That could be successful and, you know, just trying to play the. The version that's best for me, and that's just, you know, playing hard and trying to find the back of the net.
[130:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I'll just score six goals in the national championship. Yep. No big deal. Biggest game. Okay. Need to play the best. You got it. How many times you guys want a touchdown? Walker Walls in the back in defense, doing all American. He's picked up the big fella. Yeah. The big fellas pick by. He's got one of the longest sticks.
[130:20]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, yeah.
[130:21]
Pat McAfee
He's got one of those long sticks.
[130:22]
AJ Hawk
He.
[130:22]
Pat McAfee
You know, we heard about the cursed boys beating the shit out of each other in the backyard. You should have seen what Wallace was doing. He's chopping down trees.
[130:30]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, he was.
[130:31]
Pat McAfee
He was chopping it down. Let's go. Connor has a question for you boys.
[130:37]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, cj, Hopefully I don't screw up this name, but I believe George Boyardi is a big story with the Cornell Lacrosse team. They kind of talked about it on the broadcast, about how you guys, when you're in the gym, you know, working out, you don't do 20 reps, you do 21. Can you just talk about him and kind of the importance and the motivating factor of his passing 21 years ago? And also, did you get to speak to his family after the game? Was there anything with them once you guys secured the national championship?
[131:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. George Boiardi is, you know, what Cornell.
[131:07]
AJ Hawk
Lacrosse is all about.
[131:09]
Pat McAfee
You know, you think about, you know, all the years that, you know, everyone has put on the jersey and, you know, all the long red line that we say with all the alums. And, you know, George is the ultimate teammate. You know, he's the best leader and motivator everyone anyone's ever been around. And, you know, he unfortunately passed away on our field, Shilkov Field. You know, block.
[131:30]
AJ Hawk
Trying to block a shot. And, you know, for this to be.
[131:32]
Pat McAfee
The 21st anniversary of George and be able to get it done and bring.
[131:36]
AJ Hawk
This back to Ithaca is incredible.
[131:38]
Pat McAfee
And, you know, to get all those.
[131:40]
AJ Hawk
Hugs and text messages now from all.
[131:42]
Pat McAfee
The alums, to see his family hold the trophy, you know, it's just an incredible feeling. And, you know, everyone who's ever had.
[131:49]
AJ Hawk
The opportunity to step inside our locker room and. And touch the sign and, you know.
[131:54]
Pat McAfee
Be a part of this special program, you know, everyone is just so happy. And, you know, we did it for George.
[131:59]
AJ Hawk
We did it for Coach Moran. We did it for a McEnany as well.
[132:03]
Pat McAfee
You know, we got it done.
[132:04]
AJ Hawk
We brought it back.
[132:05]
Pat McAfee
That's awesome story.
[132:06]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
[132:07]
Pat McAfee
Love when we pay tribute, you know. Yeah, good things happen now. Lacrosse feels like a tough group. Obviously still paying tribute there. And, you know, I watched Vino celebrate this Cornell team all year. And the alumni are kind of. I think they're always behind or have become fully behind. This particular team at Cornell feels like a beautiful thing. Couldn't imagine how tight the team is, especially with Walker walls on.
[132:31]
AJ Hawk
Come on.
[132:32]
Pat McAfee
In the back end. Yeah, boys. Yeah, boys, that entire thing. We don't know the ins and outs of the culture, though, so JJ has a question for you.
[132:43]
J.J. Watt
This road trip looks incredible. Obviously, you just won a national championship. You got your boy Walkle driving. Walker driving. Who's on the aux? What's on the aux? And what kind of snacks do we got?
[132:52]
Pat McAfee
Good question. Yeah, no, Walker's taking care of all that.
[132:57]
AJ Hawk
Just made a big pit stop at sheets.
[133:00]
Pat McAfee
Picked up a couple things.
[133:01]
AJ Hawk
Chicken tenders, whatnot. But come On.
[133:06]
Pat McAfee
Did we do the MTO order?
[133:08]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[133:09]
AJ Hawk
Here, we'll get. We'll get. Oh, yeah, there it is.
[133:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Walker knows the deal here. Where are you from, Walker?
[133:16]
J.J. Watt
Richmond, Virginia.
[133:17]
Pat McAfee
Okay, nice. I like that you like sheets. Just want to let you know that strong sheets is obviously an incredible staple. What are you playing on the aux, brother? What are we listening to? I don't know. What we're trying to do is put.
[133:29]
AJ Hawk
Together a one of those power hours with the mixes from the commentators this weekend.
[133:33]
Pat McAfee
That's what some of the national championship.
[133:35]
AJ Hawk
That's what we really need to get out there.
[133:38]
Pat McAfee
How has it been the last few days you boys have been celebrating there? I don't really know Cornell types.
[133:42]
AJ Hawk
Bit of a runaway.
[133:43]
Pat McAfee
I apologize. What is the. What is the celebration? Because I play. I heard you guys played in. Obviously, Foxborough was. That was insane. I assume the support from school was pretty wild. Has the celebration been awesome? I assume it has been.
[133:58]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, it's been incredible.
[134:00]
Pat McAfee
You know, we got back to Ithaca after the game and, you know, we're.
[134:04]
AJ Hawk
Able to rip it up with. With just your teammates. And then yesterday we had graduation. All the seniors parents were there, and.
[134:10]
Pat McAfee
You know, we had a little parade, too, which was.
[134:12]
AJ Hawk
Which was epic, but it's been an unreal couple hours.
[134:15]
Pat McAfee
Not.
[134:15]
AJ Hawk
The boys really haven't got much sleep.
[134:17]
Pat McAfee
Because, you know, we've just been ripping it. Yeah, I think you have to. I think you have to, pal. All right. Enjoy the travels. Enjoy the chicken tendies. And congrats on a historic season. Congrats on the national championship. And we can't wait to see what you go on to do, brother.
[134:34]
AJ Hawk
Ah, thank you. Really appreciate it. You guys are the best.
[134:36]
Pat McAfee
Let's go, let's go.
[134:43]
J.J. Watt
Did he say they're going to do a power hour with the commentary? That's pretty awesome.
[134:49]
Pat McAfee
He said. I think they. They said other teams have done this in the past. We got to ask the Kavanaugh was.
[134:53]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I wonder if they've done it.
[134:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I wonder who created the idea. Has that been passed along with the trophy? You get the trophy and on the bottom of it, there's like a little piece of paper. Hey, cool thing to do with this. Have a power hour with commentators.
[135:05]
J.J. Watt
That's great.
[135:05]
Pat McAfee
Power hour, right? That was never my gig.
[135:08]
AJ Hawk
It's a good time.
[135:08]
Pat McAfee
I was a beer trucker.
[135:10]
AJ Hawk
True.
[135:10]
J.J. Watt
It's gets the conversations rolling. I mean, you get to the back half.
[135:13]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But also, I did.
[135:15]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt, no doubt. You got to be. You got to Be able to play Edward 40 hands.
[135:20]
AJ Hawk
That's what I thought they'd be doing.
[135:21]
Pat McAfee
I didn't mind that because I can make things disappear quickly and I do have a active bladder, so that was going to motivate me quicker. But the issue is the more you put down, the quicker it has come out. So you got to really have a mental battle there with Edward 40.
[135:32]
AJ Hawk
What's the power hour?
[135:33]
J.J. Watt
Power hours like shot of beer every 60 seconds.
[135:36]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, every minute. And normally there's like a. Oh, shot of beer.
[135:39]
J.J. Watt
It comes out like six and a half.
[135:40]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Six, seven beers.
[135:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. One hour.
[135:43]
J.J. Watt
Unless you do a double.
[135:44]
Pat McAfee
And there's clever, you know, music where like minute long. As soon as the song change. Okay. Take a shot. So a lot of people took a lot of pride in the list, the playlist and that entire thing. So they're using commentators calls.
[135:56]
J.J. Watt
That's so sick.
[135:57]
Pat McAfee
So, like, that's a pretty. That's a lot of. 60 is a lot of.
[136:02]
J.J. Watt
I don't know if I could do my whole career.
[136:04]
Pat McAfee
Oh, jh. The amount of those moments, they could have just shifted to different. Turned down for Watts.
[136:12]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[136:12]
Pat McAfee
You know what I mean? In the moment now. They might do it for your hair.
[136:15]
AJ Hawk
They might.
[136:16]
Pat McAfee
I'm telling you, this is. This might be the best.
[136:19]
J.J. Watt
Going back to the hat.
[136:20]
AJ Hawk
No, let us. You're not losing it.
[136:22]
J.J. Watt
Your hair, it out.
[136:24]
Pat McAfee
I don't think you can go much longer, though. Jason. Know if you're going to be on tv, you're going to have this middle stage.
[136:30]
J.J. Watt
This is my second day ever trying this. This. So I don't. I got to figure out.
[136:34]
AJ Hawk
Have you thought about doing a ponytail in the booth?
[136:37]
J.J. Watt
See, dad. Will not happen.
[136:38]
Pat McAfee
Exactly.
[136:39]
AJ Hawk
Okay. I mean, it is tough to. To Pat's point. Once the sides get to a certain point, it's.
[136:43]
Pat McAfee
It's hard.
[136:44]
AJ Hawk
It's pretty brutal.
[136:46]
J.J. Watt
The flow out of the back, like some good letters.
[136:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Mark did have a good ponytail. He had good hair. Strong hair. In Sanchez. Yeah. Sanchez had a ponytail.
[136:54]
J.J. Watt
You put that thing on the side sometimes, too.
[136:56]
Pat McAfee
This looks really good, though. I think it shapes your gigantic head. Right. Because you got one of his big ones. You got one of those big melons.
[137:03]
J.J. Watt
Large head. That's partially why I keep lifting, because I feel like if I let my body get too small.
[137:07]
Pat McAfee
Alien type.
[137:07]
J.J. Watt
I'm looking a little weird.
[137:09]
AJ Hawk
Head's going to be so big.
[137:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Like an alien freak. But I think that's good hair right there. I think. I don't think you would look like a freak. But I, I, I think, like Connor implied there, but I do think that looks good. I think that'd be good for the booth. I'm excited for you to be in the booth, too. That's a lot of travel, bro. Aj, isn't it? I mean, AJ and I have called two, three games together, and my only thought is this is so much time doing all this stuff.
[137:30]
J.J. Watt
You travel. You travel four times a week. What are you talking about?
[137:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but my.
[137:35]
J.J. Watt
You might be going to New York in the morning. Like, you don't know. Like, you, you probably in the afternoon.
[137:39]
Pat McAfee
If I had a guess, we're looking at this quick turnaround here. Got a lot of conversations going on. Got baby, got a wife, got family, got business. Got a lot of things going on in that entirety next week. But I signed. Next week is absurd.
[137:50]
AJ Hawk
Next week.
[137:50]
Pat McAfee
I don't even want to get into it. Next week's travel schedule, absurd. But I signed up for it knowing that your thing was like, I don't want to travel, remember? Because you're only doing like 6 CBS's or 7 CBS's because you didn't want to have to travel around for it all. Then you jump into commentating. It's like, that's a lot of. It is.
[138:04]
Peter Schrager
It is.
[138:04]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[138:05]
AJ Hawk
And ownership.
[138:06]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to it. I love being in the stadium. Like, I, I love the NFL. I love the football. I love being actually there. I love the audience. I love the players. I love. So I'm really looking forward to.
[138:18]
Pat McAfee
So the Netflix thing, Christmas was.
[138:20]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, it was definitely an eye opener. Opener, yeah. Being. Because I hadn't been back in stadiums really much like that. And it was just. There's a great vibe about it. I just, I really enjoy it. And I love talking ball. I love having the long gated time to discuss the game and to talk people through what's going on and to talk them through the situations and what coaches and players might be thinking. I'm really looking forward to it.
[138:40]
Pat McAfee
Have you been practicing? Have you been doing fake games?
[138:43]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I did the one last year, obviously. I've been watching a ton of games. I sit down, talk with the producers, talk with I. And we're going through it all. But yeah, I mean, a lot of it comes down to making sure you know the rules, the situations, things like that. Because the actual football stuff is, is A, stuff from your own head, but B, from conversations you have with coordinators.
[139:01]
Pat McAfee
Do you already have your schedule?
[139:03]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I know we're we're the second booth. So we. It doesn't come. You don't know your schedule until sometimes the week before.
[139:10]
Pat McAfee
So the answer is no.
[139:11]
J.J. Watt
Correct.
[139:11]
Pat McAfee
Thank you.
[139:11]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I know when. I know when I'm going to be. Be gone. I just don't know what day you getting in town?
[139:15]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, you get in there like Thursday or Friday. Like, sometimes could be a long weekend.
[139:19]
J.J. Watt
No, Saturday been great. They're very good with me.
[139:22]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, good.
[139:23]
J.J. Watt
Lose Saturday and back out Sunday. I'm trying. They fall out all the time.
[139:27]
AJ Hawk
I mean, it's awesome for us that you're in the booth, honestly, because sometimes.
[139:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I'm excited.
[139:31]
AJ Hawk
Like, some of the booths are a little difficult. Yeah. If you will.
[139:35]
Pat McAfee
The reason why they're shy.
[139:36]
AJ Hawk
Give me your.
[139:36]
J.J. Watt
Give me your top things you like about a commentator and you're about talking COP 2000.
[139:40]
Pat McAfee
We have no idea. Because if you might do something in your own way that's better than what everybody else is doing, it's hard to judge sometimes. I like somebody doing something and then somebody else trying it. I hate it. So it's like, I think you gotta find care.
[139:50]
AJ Hawk
If we feel like you care, I think for me at least, when I see, like, hey, this dude loves ball. Like, I can. I can get into it for sure. That's why people rip on Romo now. They loved him early on, but then now he kind of is just like freewheeling and people are like, oh, this guy doesn't fucking prepare at all. He does play golf all week and gets out there.
[140:05]
Pat McAfee
And that's the negative about Tony, which there always is going to be. Whenever you're calling games, there's always going to be negative about you, by the way, because you're gonna have to call the worst moment in a team's history. So you're gonna be the one that's gonna be the voice over that. You're gonna be the one delivering the news to the fans that love team that, hey, they're up here. As somebody that has pointed out some things to a team in the city that I'm in, a team that I'm pretty close to. Their fans got ma pissed. Their fans are still pissed. Colts fans are still mad at me for pointing out the very obvious about, hey, this is not how a professional football team operates. Very obvious, very low level professional football conversation. Like, very, very low. And they get pissed of me because I'm the one delivering that news. That is what you're signing up for. You know, that is something that you're signing up for. So I think what you have to remain is confident because you're going to want change with what people are saying to you, but no matter how much you change, you're going to piss people off.
[140:56]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[140:56]
AJ Hawk
Stick to your guns. For sure. Like, Brady early on was not good. I think. Think it was pretty clear.
[141:02]
Pat McAfee
I don't think he was comfortable.
[141:03]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Yeah. Whether it was comfortability or just not knowing when things were gonna happen and how much time he had, but like, he just stayed Tom Brady and then by the end of it, he was really, really good at broadcasting.
[141:15]
Pat McAfee
Injured JJ Watt just like he's Tom Brady. Like, no. And aj, I don't know if I'm supposed to say this or not, but it's your sport. So, like, Gorms used to tell this to me whenever I was getting started. He's like, nobody can tell you how to talk about your sport. Like it's your sport. Who's going to tell you your sport better than you? Well, this isn't an interesting thing to talk about in your sport. Well, if I think it's interesting, it is because it is your sport. Like, you are one of the pillars in the history of the game. You'll be a first ballot hall of famer. So whatever you find interesting about the sport, I think you should hammer home, but you shouldn't alienate the doofuses. You know what I mean? Like, that is something to think.
[141:51]
J.J. Watt
I'm very well aware of that. I think that being able to talk to the audience like your fan as well, and being just as excited to AJ's point, the passion, the energy, but also interjecting that experience and that knowledge that you have and some of that.
[142:04]
Pat McAfee
Insider ball and that's what you have. They're going to come to the. They're going to do boot shots.
[142:08]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. All I know is some booth shots on JJ's hair. Call a Steelers game. I'm going to need you to kill tj.
[142:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. If he deserves it. Let's go ahead and talk about it.
[142:16]
AJ Hawk
Can't just be like, oh, my brother.
[142:18]
J.J. Watt
Know, no matter what I say in that game, I will be considered biased. And no matter, like there's. There's definitely. It's to your point. Every single game you're going to get crushed on social media, possibly from both sides. And that's just the way that it goes.
[142:31]
Pat McAfee
I'm crushed.
[142:32]
J.J. Watt
Well equipped to handle that now. Oh, yeah, yeah.
[142:34]
Pat McAfee
Like, you just look any commentator's name.
[142:37]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, it's crushed.
[142:39]
AJ Hawk
I mean, no matter what you do. I mean, pat gave away $2 million and got crushed. But I mean, with you, like, you actually brought it up before the Steelers Chiefs game. You're like, I'm gonna. You. You said it in the booth before the game started, like, well, it's gonna be fun because no matter what I say today, like, it's gonna turn out bad for me because TJ's play and.
[142:57]
J.J. Watt
I'm not gonna act like he's not my brother like that. Like, I'm not. We're not gonna pull wool over each other's eyes here. I'm not a. Like, I know that.
[143:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but what if you say, you know, this is why that contract issue is such a big deal. You know, TJ's clearly not as comfortable. His off season was. His off season was a little bit off.
[143:14]
AJ Hawk
He's not that hurt.
[143:15]
J.J. Watt
It's not off. I can tell you that. I was watching Train the other day. He looks.
[143:18]
Pat McAfee
Oh, okay.
[143:19]
AJ Hawk
We got a little info.
[143:20]
Pat McAfee
Okay, we got a little info.
[143:22]
AJ Hawk
He looks good.
[143:23]
J.J. Watt
He looks very good.
[143:23]
Pat McAfee
Let's go to hammer.com tone teege looks good. That's what we're here. And he's training just like anybody else. That could potentially be a Pittsburgh Steeler.
[143:32]
AJ Hawk
Tone Teege always looks good.
[143:34]
J.J. Watt
That's.
[143:34]
AJ Hawk
That's never going to be a question. I knew there was going to be a little.
[143:37]
Pat McAfee
Little more.
[143:38]
AJ Hawk
More piss in his vinegar this off season. It felt like, you know.
[143:42]
Darius J. Butler
Yep.
[143:44]
AJ Hawk
Little more piss in his vinegar.
[143:47]
J.J. Watt
Not vinegar in his piss.
[143:48]
Pat McAfee
No. Yeah, he has vinegar in the. In the shelf. Yeah, he takes that out big off season, pisses in it, puts it right back up there.
[143:56]
AJ Hawk
Bingo. You guys never heard that one before. That's weird. No, just because, you know, the season before, he definitely should have won defense the player of the year and got robbed in that one. Didn't one didn't win last year. And you know, there was. It got a little bit loud over the last few games. So I. I knew Teach was going to come in and get ready, especially, you know what? He's got Mace's back, too. He. Mason him had a good conversation this last summer and said, mason, I'm gonna need you. And TJ said, I got you, dog.
[144:20]
Pat McAfee
Mason knew this last summer he was going to be this.
[144:23]
AJ Hawk
You know, this. This current summer we're in.
[144:25]
Pat McAfee
Oh, a couple. We're not in summer yet.
[144:27]
AJ Hawk
Memorial Day just happened happen this summer, brother.
[144:29]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you're saying two days ago.
[144:31]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[144:32]
Pat McAfee
Mason and TJ had a conversation.
[144:33]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. I got an inside source. TJ has goatee. Is that what we're hearing too. That would be cool.
[144:38]
J.J. Watt
A goatee.
[144:39]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, like Macy's goatee. Well, Mace's got mustache now, but hadn't seen it.
[144:43]
Pat McAfee
Oh, he's got. He's even paying attention to Pittsburgh Steelers at this point. His brother's on damn tea.
[144:48]
AJ Hawk
Who would you rather have, jj? Someone who's come in prepared, you know, made flash cards for the team. Been there with the wide receivers and.
[144:53]
J.J. Watt
Stuff like that or something.
[144:54]
AJ Hawk
Someone who's squirting squirt guns at Lollapalooza.
[144:58]
Pat McAfee
He's having a good time at a concert for Mike Stud.
[145:00]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[145:01]
Pat McAfee
Eating bark now. Chewing bark. Terry Bradshaw says after he hears this guy talk, it makes him want to chew bark, which maybe that's good for the health. We don't know.
[145:10]
AJ Hawk
Probably teeth.
[145:11]
Pat McAfee
We have no idea what he's indicating.
[145:12]
J.J. Watt
Beneficial.
[145:13]
Pat McAfee
But yeah.
[145:14]
J.J. Watt
What do you think about true embark?
[145:18]
AJ Hawk
Which hypothetical quarterback would you rather have now? The one that's at Lala Blues are playing with squirt guns is a First.
[145:24]
J.J. Watt
Battle hall of Famer.
[145:25]
AJ Hawk
Very, very good. Probably going to make the team better, but, you know, comes with some baggage maybe.
[145:30]
Pat McAfee
What? Fake.
[145:31]
AJ Hawk
What's the baggage? He wants to wear number 12.
[145:34]
Pat McAfee
Well.
[145:35]
AJ Hawk
Oh, is that what Terry's best.
[145:40]
Pat McAfee
I think TB is going to go down easily in that entire thing. Terry Bradshaw won a lot for the city of Pittsburgh.
[145:46]
AJ Hawk
Four Super Bowls. How come we never really, I don't know, hear about it.
[145:50]
Pat McAfee
That's a great question, actually. From Pittsburgh. Grew up in Pittsburgh. Have no idea why Terry Bradshaw is not more.
[145:55]
AJ Hawk
Well, seven was better, so.
[145:58]
Pat McAfee
Okay. But he's free to say that because of how.
[146:00]
AJ Hawk
I mean, that was his generation, too.
[146:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But in Pittsburgh, you would think that there would be like, hey, Terry Bradshaw, you know, that type of thing. But instead it's like Steel Curry hurting everything that happened back. You remember what Lynn used to do in Swan. This guy's unbelievable.
[146:16]
J.J. Watt
Stalwart.
[146:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Like that Franco, Jay Z. Immaculate. Anybody could have played everybody except the quarterback.
[146:22]
AJ Hawk
I mean, that's what, four Super Bowls, right?
[146:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[146:24]
AJ Hawk
And I mean, you can look at his highlights today and they age well. Like what guys are doing today.
[146:30]
Pat McAfee
He put his finger on top of that ball because his hands are so large, let alone the entire story of him going on to be one of the biggest personalities. Personalities in the history of sports.
[146:38]
AJ Hawk
Yep. But instead Pittsburgh hates him.
[146:41]
Pat McAfee
No, I don't think they hate him.
[146:42]
AJ Hawk
He hates Pittsburgh.
[146:43]
Pat McAfee
I don't think he.
[146:44]
AJ Hawk
I don't think he goes back.
[146:45]
J.J. Watt
He might.
[146:46]
AJ Hawk
Does he?
[146:46]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I don't know if he hates.
[146:47]
AJ Hawk
No, there was the end of his career. There's a bit sour because he had an injury and you know, he thought Steelers organization might not have done right by him. And he didn't speak well a couple times about, you know, it's. It's a. He didn't speak 40, 50 years ago.
[147:02]
Pat McAfee
People don't forget AJ take beta and say good things, you know, on the way out. That was half a century ago. Him and Chuck Noel didn't really get.
[147:11]
AJ Hawk
Along at the end. You know, it was the rumors. So Chucky Noel, I mean. And the beginning. Chuck Noel brought us four Super Bowls, by the way.
[147:18]
Pat McAfee
So Terry.
[147:19]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, Chuck Noel was at the wheel.
[147:22]
AJ Hawk
We all know it.
[147:24]
Pat McAfee
All right. Okay. So there's a Tom Brady, Bill Belichick situation in Pittsburgh way back. And just the generation questions of the insurance are like, we don't speak at Terry.
[147:33]
AJ Hawk
We like. I just can't think of another like Aikman, Cowboys, Marino. He didn't even win a Super Bowl.
[147:38]
Pat McAfee
You're right, he's royal on tv.
[147:40]
AJ Hawk
Far Green Bay. No matter what he does, he's still royalty. I wouldn't say that. Like, I mean, I can't think of another quarterback. Multiple championships.
[147:48]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[147:48]
AJ Hawk
City with that type of relationship.
[147:50]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, tb, thanks for what you did for. I wasn't alive. Didn't really talk about a bunch. But the Immaculate Reception is right there in the airport.
[147:59]
AJ Hawk
Thank you, Franco. Ball on the ground and all.
[148:02]
Pat McAfee
No, no. Well, you can put playing card underneath there, brother.
[148:06]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I'm sure.
[148:07]
Pat McAfee
All right, thanks, Tone. Really good work out of you today. Thank you.
[148:10]
AJ Hawk
He's also somewhat forgetful, if you remember when we had. We were supposed to have him on the show at super bowl week and he spent the next like four days just walking around the convention center trying to. Where. Where the hell is McAfee's set at?
[148:22]
Pat McAfee
They couldn't find him is what we were told.
[148:23]
AJ Hawk
Yes, correct.
[148:24]
Pat McAfee
We had a camera set up at Radio Row because we decided not to go down to Radio Row because the year prior we had four people in a two foot by two foot space at Radio Row. So pointless to go down to Radio Row, but we'll set up a camera down there. You see, we beat the game two foot by two foot space. We'll put a camera there, then we could just stop people, they come by. Got Terry Bradshaw tomorrow.
[148:42]
AJ Hawk
Oh, huge.
[148:43]
Pat McAfee
Yes. Can't wait. Probably would have talked about this. Yeah, we were just talking about in there and then five minutes before you're supposed to come on, we can't find Terry Bradshaw. What do you mean you can't find Terry? He was here. We can't find him. And then they were told that Terry couldn't find the camera. So we thought there was a chance he was just wandering around Radio Road.
[149:04]
AJ Hawk
They found him later. He's like, out in the. Like in the middle of a field. Just like throwing a football. Yeah, exactly.
[149:11]
Pat McAfee
He's great on Fox. Has been for some long. When he traveled, I think he went to Japan.
[149:15]
AJ Hawk
Good actor.
[149:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he's.
[149:17]
AJ Hawk
He showed his cheeks in that Matt McConaughey movie. Yeah.
[149:20]
J.J. Watt
Is that why they don't like him?
[149:21]
Pat McAfee
I think Pittsburgh people would be cool with him showing cheeks definitely in a McConaughey movie.
[149:25]
AJ Hawk
Pittsburgh people ain't afraid.
[149:26]
Pat McAfee
I genuinely. We brought that up this morning. Like, why is Terry Bradshaw not. I. And everybody's like, he did something.
[149:33]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[149:34]
AJ Hawk
We'd have to talk to an old. We'd have to talk to an old.
[149:36]
Pat McAfee
Timer that was legit. And then Tim Mac, Tim Mack, that comes in. I go, hey, how come Terry Bradshaw, he was good to me.
[149:42]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I like him.
[149:42]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[149:43]
Pat McAfee
I was moving somebody into the building that he worked at. He came down, him and his lady at the time, something, something Starbucks. And he said, hello, wish me luck. And he's always done right by me. And then Tim just. I don't know why we don't talk about it. Yeah, let's call Caboli. Let's call more Cabo. Caboli will have an answer. You know Caboli, how do you feel about Kaboli?
[150:04]
J.J. Watt
I don't know him well enough to have an appreciation.
[150:06]
Pat McAfee
Hates markable. Sounds like that is what I just heard there.
[150:11]
J.J. Watt
I know he's a friend of the program.
[150:12]
Pat McAfee
So he's correspondent.
[150:14]
AJ Hawk
It is 2:45. He might be on second nap. Might be in the middle. Middle of second nap. I'm not sure.
[150:25]
Pat McAfee
Well, siesta it is, Right?
[150:27]
AJ Hawk
Second nap, third lunch. You know, you might. Well, the right. The right. Right. You know, they coincide. Yeah.
[150:32]
Pat McAfee
If he has a mayonnaise sandwich on deck, like. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, correspondent for our program, also a WWE calmist, ladies and gentlemen, Mark Bowie.
[150:44]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, Mark.
[150:45]
Pat McAfee
Mark. They said you were potentially on your second nap. Third lunch. Nice to see you out at work. What are you doing right now, brother?
[150:50]
AJ Hawk
Of course, I'm actually watching probably something I'm not supposed to be watching inside the Steelers facility. So flip the camera.
[150:59]
Pat McAfee
Who is it?
[151:00]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, flip the.
[151:02]
Pat McAfee
Here we go. I don't think you should show us quick.
[151:04]
J.J. Watt
Probably should zoom in.
[151:07]
AJ Hawk
I can't zoom in.
[151:08]
Pat McAfee
They're probably yelling at me.
[151:09]
J.J. Watt
Don't zoom in.
[151:09]
AJ Hawk
You got it. Now you're good.
[151:11]
Pat McAfee
No, closer to teeth.
[151:12]
Darius J. Butler
Closer.
[151:15]
Pat McAfee
That's where.
[151:15]
J.J. Watt
Can't quite see the nostril.
[151:17]
AJ Hawk
Those hairs.
[151:18]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, you can't see the hairs.
[151:19]
Pat McAfee
Hold on. Wait.
[151:22]
AJ Hawk
I can tell you who it is. It was Will Howard.
[151:25]
Pat McAfee
Oh, Will Hard goal. We like seeing Will Hard one from wool. Hard your teeth. And now get a chance.
[151:30]
AJ Hawk
There he is.
[151:32]
Pat McAfee
There he is. Hey, thank you, Caboli, for the on field boots on the ground with that babe.
[151:38]
J.J. Watt
Will.
[151:39]
Pat McAfee
All right, keep it down. Keep it down. Hey, quick question for you, Mark here. Not about Will hired or the current Steelers team or T.J. watts.
[151:45]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[151:45]
Pat McAfee
Situation. I thought I saw him out there being here. Anyways, Cabos. Hey, how come Terry Bradshaw's never talked about, like, with Pittsburgh Steelers? We were trying to figure it out. We couldn't find an answer. We like me Tone, Nick. We're just like. Like he did something. That's what everybody always says. He's like one of the most famous NFL pundits. Won four Super Bowls in Pittsburgh. I think anytime they show highlights, obviously it's Pittsburgh Steelers highlights. And it's like, I don't think I remember anybody talking about him growing up. Like, Terry Bradshaw is a guy that we love around here. Why is that?
[152:18]
AJ Hawk
Well, you have to be old. First of all, I. I think people still talk about him, but you have to be of a certain age group to talk about him in this city. For some of. Some of the. Actually, people in the city really didn't appreciate him not showing up for, I believe, the chief's funeral way back in the day as well. So some people might not like it. Him is that. But a lot of people still believe that he is maybe the best Steelers quarterback of all time, even though Ben came in and probably super surpassed that a little bit. So I don't know if I'm answering your question here right now, but I think it's more of a regional thing here. He probably should be getting more publicity than he did just with the four Super Bowls in six years.
[153:08]
Pat McAfee
Yes. Especially in Pittsburgh. Like. Like the amount of. I don't want to say autograph signings, but you paint, like, everything that you would think would happen. Never really saw him back around. Would like to let Terry know. Hey, thanks for what you did for Yinzers back in the day, buddy. Not great not showing up. Maybe there was a scheduling conflict or who knows what the case is, but. All right, Caboli, we appreciate you tell Will Howard we appreciate Him?
[153:29]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I think he's in a little bit of a meeting right now, so I can't scream at him. So. Smart. I'll do it.
[153:35]
J.J. Watt
That's smart.
[153:35]
Pat McAfee
Smart, smart. Thank you.
[153:36]
AJ Hawk
Darren. There, there.
[153:37]
Pat McAfee
Is Aaron Rodgers there? I heard he's not showing up at OTAs. Oh, he's not on team.
[153:42]
AJ Hawk
He's not at OTAs. But apparently he was staying at Ace really cheesy hotel in the strip district over the weekend. So.
[153:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, of course.
[153:51]
AJ Hawk
Follower at a radio station 6.
[153:53]
Pat McAfee
Okay. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Mark Cheesy hotel down in Strip district.
[153:59]
AJ Hawk
Great. Nice district. Okay.
[154:01]
Pat McAfee
Strip districts vary. Nice.
[154:03]
AJ Hawk
That was the rumor. Someone apparently saw him at a hotel staying in the strip over the week.
[154:07]
Pat McAfee
At a cheesy. What does that mean?
[154:11]
AJ Hawk
Maybe a not so nice hotel probably meant sleazy.
[154:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Oh, so he just said cheesy. They meant sleazy down the strip. Is there? I thought they redid the strip.
[154:19]
AJ Hawk
They're still parts.
[154:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but they got that indoor putt putt bar.
[154:23]
AJ Hawk
That place is sweet.
[154:24]
Pat McAfee
That place was sweet.
[154:25]
J.J. Watt
Got the cool soccer field there.
[154:27]
Pat McAfee
Really? What is it, indoors stadium?
[154:29]
J.J. Watt
No, no, river.
[154:32]
Pat McAfee
Oh, you're talking about North Shore over there.
[154:34]
AJ Hawk
Hi, Mark. That ain't the strip district.
[154:36]
Pat McAfee
I didn't.
[154:36]
J.J. Watt
I was just saying they have a cool soccer field. I didn't believe that it was real the first time.
[154:40]
AJ Hawk
That's down station scare.
[154:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Dude. Yeah.
[154:42]
AJ Hawk
I'm sorry.
[154:43]
Pat McAfee
Downstation scare you're talking about, not North Shore. Okay, let me tell you about station scare, all right? Used to be the greatest haunted anything in the history. Okay, you go down there, it was like a state fair, but it was haunted. They had this clown that they would put a microphone in front of. Greatest shit talker in history. Do you remember this guy Nick? This clown that used to talk. He should be a professional. I don't know what he does. This clown, as soon as you walk in some sort of athletic feat, he's sitting at the top of it. Creepy looking, obviously. Incredibly creepy. Chirping, talking to every single person in there. Then obviously you got a haunted house down there. You got sign waivers that are going to touch you. They're to going you.
[155:20]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
[155:21]
J.J. Watt
Free reign.
[155:22]
AJ Hawk
Yep. Boy. One, two.
[155:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. They're going to get you.
[155:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. I was never allowed to go because of that reason.
[155:26]
Pat McAfee
Now they turn sign the waiver.
[155:28]
J.J. Watt
Parents wouldn't.
[155:28]
AJ Hawk
No, coach wouldn't let me go. He want me getting stabbed by one of lunatics down there.
[155:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Which they would try to get you cuz their goal was to make you scared. And if you weren't scared from a punch or maybe a shoulder, there's a chance they're going to gut you. Well, coach, that would scare.
[155:40]
AJ Hawk
But Coach then would have to go kill somebody again. You know he didn't want to do that.
[155:45]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Coach ain't kill anybody. You remember when Station Scare had one of the greatest count cowboy bars, country bars of all time. What was that place called? Something saloon, Nick.
[155:54]
AJ Hawk
Saddle Ridge.
[155:55]
Pat McAfee
Saddle Ridge. Yeah. There it is. Not a saloon at all. Saddle Ridge was the name of the place.
[155:58]
AJ Hawk
I mean Tequila Cowboy.
[156:00]
Pat McAfee
Tequila Cowboy is a good spot. That's on the North Shore. That is not on Station Square. Station Square used to be a great spot. Not everybody wanted to go as much as me. I always wanted to end up at Station Square. I wanted to go Station Scare every week that our last.
[156:14]
AJ Hawk
Our last St. Patty's Day there.
[156:15]
Pat McAfee
You wanted to go.
[156:16]
AJ Hawk
Go so bad.
[156:16]
Pat McAfee
So bad.
[156:17]
AJ Hawk
So bad.
[156:17]
Pat McAfee
Get me down to Station Scare cuz they got that country with that homeless guy. Well, brought the homeless guy out with us. He had a great St. Patrick's Day. Probably the greatest holiday he's ever had in his entire life.
[156:25]
AJ Hawk
Last one, right?
[156:26]
J.J. Watt
Don't doubt it. Nick got left on the curb for the homeless guy.
[156:28]
Pat McAfee
That's not true. Nick was with another homeless guy.
[156:30]
AJ Hawk
Needs a ride. Sorry, Nick.
[156:33]
Pat McAfee
That's not true. We actually didn't get in the car.
[156:35]
J.J. Watt
That's tough.
[156:36]
Pat McAfee
Cars came outside. We chose not to get in cars.
[156:40]
AJ Hawk
We're going to hang out with this homeless guy.
[156:42]
Pat McAfee
Nick didn't get the message.
[156:44]
J.J. Watt
Oh man.
[156:44]
Pat McAfee
Nick was a different group. He was a different time. It was a different thing going on. The group he was with, I. I wasn't signing up for.
[156:50]
J.J. Watt
How did the homeless guy earn the spot?
[156:52]
Pat McAfee
He's right there in the corner, has signs, knocking lights for beer. And I said you got it. All the beer you want today, buddy. Come on. And joined us.
[156:59]
AJ Hawk
Their buddy, Joe Hadley of Joe Hadley.
[157:04]
Pat McAfee
That is not true. Anyways, Station. Station Scare used to be a great spot. North Shore is a great spot. Station Scare is still good. They got that stadium down there. Strip District though. Aaron Rogers just hanging out in the Strip District. I guess that would be a place that Aaron Rodgers would go to. The Strip District.
[157:19]
AJ Hawk
Certainly believable.
[157:20]
Pat McAfee
AJ why is he just. He's just hanging around Pittsburgh, but he doesn't want to sign with Steelers. I don't understand. He just wants to see the. Yeah, I guess so.
[157:26]
AJ Hawk
I guess he. Is he really just checking everything out?
[157:28]
J.J. Watt
I don't know.
[157:28]
Pat McAfee
That is.
[157:29]
AJ Hawk
Is there any like video footage of him at the Strip district?
[157:32]
Pat McAfee
No, he's no shot. Call it an array of show calling. DV said he's seen Aaron Rodgers this weekend. Maybe he shows up at OTAs, then he doesn't show up at OTAs for a team that he's not signed to. And people say he's not even at OTAs. And then the reason why he didn't sign with the team is because he doesn't want to go to OTAs.
[157:49]
AJ Hawk
Exactly.
[157:49]
Pat McAfee
It's a wonderful little story. Speaking of stories, anytime J.J. watt joins us, we like to have the people ask the questions that they. They've been yearning to ask JJ since the first time they seen him. Maybe it was hard knocks when he took over. Maybe it was when he was scoring touchdowns. Maybe it was when he was creating a Hall of fame career. Maybe it was when he debuted a new hairstyle, whether at the super bowl or right here today. This one?
[158:12]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Top notch. A plus.
[158:14]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for hashtag Ask J. What do you say? Hashtag ask JJ Nailed it. How many people call you Jage on the day to day, would you say?
[158:31]
J.J. Watt
2.
[158:31]
Pat McAfee
Okay, let's go to some hashtag ash.
[158:34]
J.J. Watt
Just me more today.
[158:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Me and teach.
[158:37]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[158:38]
Pat McAfee
What's Derek call you?
[158:40]
J.J. Watt
JJ? That's two.
[158:43]
AJ Hawk
J.
[158:44]
J.J. Watt
Told I haven't seen them today. So you're the first. This crew is the first one to call me Jage today.
[158:49]
Pat McAfee
Okay. How many people in your life. Wife call you j?
[158:52]
J.J. Watt
Generally? 2. Since I'm here today, 3.
[158:55]
Pat McAfee
What about the wife, though? Wife doesn't go J.
[158:58]
J.J. Watt
She does not call me Jake. No. That would be great.
[159:01]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my dad. I seen dad. Dad looks like he can hammer some beers. Oh, yeah, Hammer some beers. He's never had about 40, 50.
[159:10]
AJ Hawk
Beer.
[159:11]
Pat McAfee
He's not?
[159:12]
J.J. Watt
No.
[159:12]
Pat McAfee
He looks a hard nose. He looks like hard nose.
[159:14]
J.J. Watt
I could see it.
[159:15]
Pat McAfee
He does not. Did you smoke weed?
[159:18]
J.J. Watt
No. Diet coat. Firefighter.
[159:21]
Pat McAfee
Firefighter. Okay. So that. That makes. I'm so sorry. Now, granted, fact, he's a firefighter and doesn't drink. I think that is a little surprising. But also, thank you for your commitment to serving your community, Mr. Watt. He doesn't say J. Get over here.
[159:34]
J.J. Watt
He actually does say J. Yeah, he does.
[159:35]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I'm happy we can get the bottle.
[159:37]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, he does.
[159:37]
Pat McAfee
I don't like that I got to do investigative journalism with every fucking question. Okay. I just want to let you know that J.
[159:42]
J.J. Watt
What of a piece people call you Cuffy.
[159:45]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Pm yeah. Patty. Patty cakes.
[159:52]
Pat McAfee
Patty Mack.
[159:52]
J.J. Watt
I like Patty Mack is cool.
[159:54]
Pat McAfee
I've been called Patty Mac before. I've been called Patty Mac before. P. Mac.
[159:57]
J.J. Watt
Patty Mack.
[159:58]
AJ Hawk
McAfee.
[159:59]
Pat McAfee
McAfee a lot. People call me McAfee a lot. Stadium MC is actually, for my entire rookie year, called me McAfee, which is really cool.
[160:06]
AJ Hawk
Your rookie year. Oh, wait.
[160:08]
Pat McAfee
Well, first of all, they called me Adam Venteri because I was killing kicking off and they didn't know it was me. They called me Adam Penetary. That was pretty cool. Good little pop in some of the places. I was a Hall of Famer out there. Actually gave credit to Adam for one of my onside kicks, which was sweet, actually, to think about. I'm getting called Adam Veterinary. And then other places would call me McAfee. I think Houston did it one time in the punt. Number one, Patrick McAfee. I'm like, yeah, in the NFL. Thought I made myself here. Did not. PM is a new one. Ever been called PM?
[160:34]
AJ Hawk
PM's pretty, though.
[160:37]
J.J. Watt
DM's good.
[160:39]
Pat McAfee
What are you gonna call me? JH.
[160:40]
J.J. Watt
I like Patty Mack. I think I'm gonna go with that now.
[160:43]
Pat McAfee
Every conversation we have, you're gonna say Patty Mac.
[160:45]
J.J. Watt
Should I?
[160:46]
Pat McAfee
I think it's gonna be tough to commit to the people that try to call me Patty Mack. Then they realize, difficult one is a lot.
[160:51]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[160:52]
J.J. Watt
Would it annoy you, or would you be on board?
[160:54]
Pat McAfee
I'd be cool with it, but I think you would feel annoyed saying it.
[160:56]
J.J. Watt
Okay.
[160:57]
Pat McAfee
You know what I mean? Yeah.
[160:57]
J.J. Watt
Let's give it a shot. I mean, if it fails, it fails.
[160:59]
Pat McAfee
All right. Sounds good, J. Patty Mac. Ask J. Let's get to them. This one's from Jacob Slife at slife28. Hashtag Ask Jage. Any hunter wipe shits lately? Official AJ Hawk told me to ask you, says Jacob. I don't know if Jacob is potentially AJ's neighbor or maybe his burner, but would like to know if you've potentially just rubbed your cheeks dry lately.
[161:21]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I think AJ and I obviously have. We're on one side of this, and you somehow are on the other side of this. But. But I think we represent most normal people out there that. Yeah, every now and then, once, maybe twice a year, there's a. There's a messy situation.
[161:35]
Pat McAfee
100 wipes. That was just you saying.
[161:36]
J.J. Watt
Well, I mean, that's just that. That's insane.
[161:38]
Pat McAfee
You mean like 50?
[161:39]
J.J. Watt
There's a lot. I mean. Yeah. I don't know. I don't care.
[161:41]
AJ Hawk
How many?
[161:42]
Pat McAfee
How many?
[161:43]
J.J. Watt
Guess. We don't count. One it's. It's a significant situation.
[161:46]
Pat McAfee
Two over 33.
[161:48]
J.J. Watt
I have a question for you because.
[161:50]
Pat McAfee
Four.
[161:50]
AJ Hawk
That's. Jeez, here we go.
[161:52]
Pat McAfee
Who.
[161:53]
AJ Hawk
Five.
[161:53]
J.J. Watt
Son of a.
[161:54]
Pat McAfee
Six, seven, eight.
[161:59]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Actually takes longer. Cuz you got to get it off the spool and you got to do it.
[162:05]
Pat McAfee
That's only one tenth of what you said.
[162:07]
J.J. Watt
No.
[162:07]
Pat McAfee
You're spending that much time wiping your ass after you poop.
[162:11]
J.J. Watt
There's a once in a year situation. Maybe after a, you know, a heavy Thanksgiving. Beans and tacos or something. Something, you know, that just gets real. Real wild. Gets real out there and it's tough. But no, I would say the standard and dude wipes has helped significantly. Learned how to use a bidet, which is cool, because that helps significantly.
[162:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, those are. Those are a real deal.
[162:32]
J.J. Watt
Big, big fan.
[162:33]
Pat McAfee
If you can afford a bidet in your house, you do the bidet in your house.
[162:36]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[162:36]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[162:37]
J.J. Watt
Took me too long to figure them out. I was. There was water going a lot of different ways and I didn't know how to operate.
[162:42]
Pat McAfee
Now you like aj Are you sitting down to PE too, with the bidet? So it's coming in.
[162:50]
AJ Hawk
Easy. Slater. A bidet.
[162:51]
Pat McAfee
The bidets are crazy. You out to Vegas or something? You end up in, like a suite.
[162:55]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, it was a drinking fountain.
[162:56]
Pat McAfee
Well, I think that's what JJ was doing at the beginning. Didn't sound like.
[162:58]
J.J. Watt
No, I. I didn't understand because, like, you gotta. It's hard to turn it on. You can't turn it on before you get on it because then it sprays and it sprays those ones. I don't know. It's a wild situation. I now have one of those cool Japanese toilets. Those are awesome. Like, with buttons.
[163:13]
AJ Hawk
Goes that way.
[163:14]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[163:14]
Pat McAfee
What are you talking about?
[163:15]
J.J. Watt
Like, it's got a remote control technology a lot of different with the toilet. It's.
[163:20]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations. Taking our job. They are.
[163:23]
J.J. Watt
Hey, you won't know I'm rich, but there'll be signs.
[163:25]
Pat McAfee
Did they take it? There'll be signs. You walk through the house. This guy got a Japanese bidet, I believe is what that is. Got his own remote.
[163:32]
J.J. Watt
Opens and closes on its own. Seats heated. As you're walking up to it. The seat opens, it's heated, and it pre sprays the bowl.
[163:41]
AJ Hawk
It's gonna have any clingers in there.
[163:43]
Pat McAfee
Does it call you Jade? Hello, James. Hello.
[163:45]
AJ Hawk
Jay turns.
[163:49]
Pat McAfee
So do you have a video game controller where you can move it up and down?
[163:52]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, you can do. I mean, you can move it up and down. You can Choose.
[163:54]
Pat McAfee
Does it talk?
[163:55]
J.J. Watt
The strength of it? No, it does not speak to you. I have seen ones recently which I don't fully understand. They'll analyze what's going in.
[164:04]
Pat McAfee
Oh, really?
[164:05]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, it'll analyze your.
[164:06]
Pat McAfee
Wait, what? The poop. Well, the poop is indicator.
[164:09]
J.J. Watt
I thought you'd have like.
[164:09]
AJ Hawk
Medical. What is it? Is it sifting through there?
[164:12]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. I don't know. I assumed you had one. I think it has fingers that come out from the toilet and sensors and then it goes back up and then it.
[164:22]
AJ Hawk
Man.
[164:22]
Pat McAfee
Sprays the poop, though, is something you can get lot of like. Tell us from. Right. Medical.
[164:29]
AJ Hawk
I may need to look into that if it's dissecting my poop and tell me what exactly is in there.
[164:34]
Pat McAfee
And you also need to think about having this Japanese toilet.
[164:37]
J.J. Watt
That's got to get you one. I mean, one here would be. I feel like, necessary.
[164:41]
Pat McAfee
Obviously past in here. There's a question. No, not only that, it's just. I don't know if you understand what happens with that guy. Talk out there. Okay. Talk destroys bathrooms. Not just toilets, entire bathrooms. The guy shuts it down out there. You see him? He looks small.
[165:01]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, but you've been in NFL locker rooms. Like, I mean, you know what it's like.
[165:03]
Pat McAfee
Nothing like this, man.
[165:05]
AJ Hawk
Full pimento loafs. Yeah.
[165:07]
J.J. Watt
Just shuts it down like. Like you cannot.
[165:09]
AJ Hawk
Like a hippo.
[165:14]
J.J. Watt
So what do you. I'm curious now, in this situation, how is that handled? You guys make him do it. Is there a plumber that comes in?
[165:19]
AJ Hawk
No. He's plunging that thing.
[165:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, has to.
[165:21]
AJ Hawk
He used to just leave him plugged until he got called out for.
[165:24]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[165:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Let alone we have people spilling stuff all over the thing.
[165:29]
AJ Hawk
Usually him as well.
[165:30]
Pat McAfee
We potentially him. He's part of the crew.
[165:32]
J.J. Watt
You talk about an NFL game day like an hour, two hours before kickoff. That is one of the worst.
[165:36]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Clear out.
[165:37]
J.J. Watt
About as good as you can. Like as bad as you can have.
[165:39]
Pat McAfee
If you were to add him to one of those. They'd say talks here. Scare the next crack. Oh, what's that?
[165:47]
J.J. Watt
Hippos. That was.
[165:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Hippos. So you understood what he meant. I did talks. Unbelievable. He tried to take down a plane with his ass one time. You remember that? Oh, yeah. First time he got on a private plane. No. March straight to the back. No.
[165:59]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, first time you got us.
[166:01]
J.J. Watt
You can't, man. You got to bite that bullet. You just hold on.
[166:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[166:04]
J.J. Watt
Till you land. How long was the flight?
[166:06]
Pat McAfee
4. No, that's what he was thinking? He's thinking, I can't do four hours with this thing. Once it got out of them, I think everybody understood. Like there's. How was that even inside of you?
[166:16]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[166:16]
Pat McAfee
There has to be another human dumping.
[166:18]
J.J. Watt
Did it make it down the. Like the airplane. The airplane toilet might help them.
[166:22]
AJ Hawk
Actually started to nose that. Excuse me.
[166:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, came up like, you gotta let.
[166:29]
J.J. Watt
The pilot know before you. So you can adjust. Yeah.
[166:31]
Pat McAfee
So you fly on those big planes. We don't get a chance to do that. Is there a toilet in the front of the plane where you. What? The plane you fly on as well?
[166:38]
J.J. Watt
No.
[166:39]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I'm not. Like we had a guy not like you. We got lucky to be on one of these planes and we had. We had a co pilot dump in the front one. So we had the back thing kind of shut. Front was kind of locked away and poop just started like trickling back the door. We started smelling poop. So we. Like somebody ripped ass. And everybody's like, no, actually didn't. Actually didn't. It was like, well, who pooped back there? Go wake a couple people up in the back. Hey, did you dump. No, no, I've been asleep. Okay. Somebody pooped in here. So obviously we opened a thing. Co pilot standing there like, hey, did you just dump? No, did not. Did not dump. And it was like, he certainly did. That guy had a good. I mean, that was pungent.
[167:22]
AJ Hawk
Oh yeah.
[167:22]
Pat McAfee
Took over the whole plane.
[167:23]
AJ Hawk
It did.
[167:24]
Pat McAfee
30, 45 minutes too. Cuz it was just seeping underneath our door into our nostrils as we were playing Euchre. Do you know how to play that game Euchre? Yeah.
[167:31]
J.J. Watt
Not, not. No, not proficiently. Let's get back to being in Wisconsin though.
[167:36]
Pat McAfee
And you don't play no cribbage.
[167:38]
J.J. Watt
I know cribbage. I think they're very similar.
[167:40]
Pat McAfee
I don't think I know cribbage.
[167:41]
AJ Hawk
I don't know Harry Potter. No, it's Quidditch.
[167:46]
Pat McAfee
Cribbage is with a board.
[167:47]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, there's a board. You got pegs. Yeah, keep. Keep going. Not you.
[167:52]
Pat McAfee
I play cards. You play pegs. Get to a hashtag. Ask J question.
[167:58]
J.J. Watt
Great. Thanks. Petty. Mac.
[168:01]
Pat McAfee
That's so cool.
[168:02]
AJ Hawk
I could tell he's already losing. Steve.
[168:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You don't like Steve.
[168:05]
J.J. Watt
I just gotta remember. No, I have to. Have to remember at cdives.
[168:09]
Pat McAfee
Cd.
[168:11]
J.J. Watt
Hey, you know D. No, I'm catching. I'm downwind of a lot of things here and I'm feeling the. I'm feeling the wind.
[168:20]
AJ Hawk
You all Right, dude, he's all dope, dope.
[168:22]
Pat McAfee
Oh, this guy's. This guy's on CBD right now.
[168:25]
J.J. Watt
I'm down. Wins.
[168:26]
Pat McAfee
All right, let's get to the Ask James, please. What are your hopes for Burnley FC in their return to the Premier League? What's the key to their success? Hashtag ask Jage. That's a good question.
[168:35]
J.J. Watt
It is a great question. We are obviously hoping to break the run of three up, three down of the last two seasons. Very difficult to do. The Premier League is obviously extremely, extremely difficult league with continuing funds being pumped in at extremely high levels. But we are extremely excited about our team. Really proud of the season that they had and I think Scott Parker did a great job and our defense is phenomenal. So hopefully we have a defensive stalwart and some good counter attacking. Put some goals in.
[169:02]
Pat McAfee
Your goalie's not gonna be able to stand on his head for two months straight like he did this last time.
[169:06]
J.J. Watt
He's incredible, man. He's a great, great player. Great kid. And I've always said it, and I'll keep saying it, he will be England's number one keeper someday.
[169:13]
Pat McAfee
Is he still under contract with you guys?
[169:14]
J.J. Watt
Yes.
[169:15]
Pat McAfee
Que loan him for tst. No, we already got our goalies. We don't need.
[169:18]
J.J. Watt
We cannot have any of our players for tst.
[169:21]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, cuz they couldn't make the team.
[169:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we'd have to try. They'd have to try out.
[169:25]
J.J. Watt
You're not even on the team this year.
[169:27]
Pat McAfee
Who? You look at the roster. I'm on the roster.
[169:30]
J.J. Watt
Did you register yourself? They were very serious about registration there.
[169:34]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
[169:34]
J.J. Watt
Are you registered?
[169:35]
AJ Hawk
We're registered.
[169:36]
Pat McAfee
We got general, man.
[169:37]
J.J. Watt
Are you registered? Registered? Are you guys registered? We're back on our per.
[169:41]
Pat McAfee
Dude, what are you talking about?
[169:42]
J.J. Watt
There's rules.
[169:43]
AJ Hawk
Sounds like.
[169:43]
J.J. Watt
Like if you're not registered on the roster, you can't play.
[169:46]
Pat McAfee
I'm registered on.
[169:47]
J.J. Watt
You might do that on purpose so you don't have to play.
[169:50]
Pat McAfee
Do you want to see our roster? Is that what you want to do?
[169:51]
J.J. Watt
Is it say Patty Mack? Let's see the roster. I'd like to see the roster.
[169:56]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, our official roster. Holy.
[169:59]
J.J. Watt
What is that for? Conceifa graduating class of West Virginia, 2025.
[170:05]
Pat McAfee
As you see there, top left corner.
[170:07]
J.J. Watt
Ridiculous.
[170:08]
Pat McAfee
Pat McAfee on the roster. Once again, I am honored to have made the roster of this concave a team, this concave a team is going to continue to win and continue to succeed at tst. Jeff Cameron, I have Good news for the rest of tst. I don't believe he will be playing. He suffered an injury in training, much like myself. His is a low lower body. Mine was an upper body. Nonetheless, Jeff Cameron will be in attendance. Don't worry about that gorilla. Back on the squad after a lot of questions.
[170:37]
J.J. Watt
That's checko.
[170:38]
Pat McAfee
I'm out.
[170:40]
AJ Hawk
Grella.
[170:41]
Pat McAfee
I'm out. No, no. Grella was good.
[170:43]
AJ Hawk
Growl was trying to run up the price. He's trying to extort you for what.
[170:46]
J.J. Watt
Kind of prices you pay?
[170:47]
Pat McAfee
He was trying to go to Burnley. What kind of price? Don't you worry about that. Our roster is happy. Our roster?
[170:52]
J.J. Watt
I'm telling you right now, you got 45 people up here. This is a lot of locker room mutiny waiting to happen. I'm not getting enough minutes. I'm not getting no minutes. Why is he on the field? I'm not on the field. That's a mutiny.
[171:01]
Pat McAfee
What do you think? I'm there Long tournament, brother.
[171:03]
J.J. Watt
Don't act like you didn't have one last time. This one's going to be way worse.
[171:06]
Pat McAfee
We didn't have one.
[171:07]
AJ Hawk
We were just fighting each other. Who were playing? Our best players were fighting.
[171:10]
J.J. Watt
There was.
[171:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but how'd they get through it, Gumpy? Yeah, they figured it out through team chemistry. Yeah.
[171:14]
AJ Hawk
And with a guy like Drew Ruggles on the.
[171:17]
J.J. Watt
Everyone loves an underdog, Gumpy. I see your hat says everyone loves an underdog. What kind of underdog? You guys are paying your players more than Ohio State is. What are you talking about?
[171:25]
AJ Hawk
You. Bournemouth has players that are under contract. There's teams openly cheating.
[171:31]
Pat McAfee
Listen, if you want to call us Ohio State, cool. Cuz there's a Texas out there. There's an Oregon out there. And what did Ohio State do last year?
[171:39]
AJ Hawk
National team. Thanks for the compliment, J.
[171:42]
J.J. Watt
We'll see what happens.
[171:43]
AJ Hawk
Listen, you got to pay a guy like Red Boots, otherwise he's going to go to the next highest bidder.
[171:46]
J.J. Watt
So what teams last year that Jamaican team was Fire.
[171:50]
Pat McAfee
Very good. We had that first game. That was tough for us.
[171:52]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Learned a lot.
[171:53]
Pat McAfee
We were still learning how to play.
[171:54]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[171:55]
J.J. Watt
Rules like just learning period. How to play the game.
[171:57]
Pat McAfee
Richard Costanzo, currently college coach for George Mason. Yep. Western Pennsylvania dog. One of the first guys out of Western Pennsylvania to make it into like the ODP world, which is Olympic Development Program. He's a year older than me. I love that dude. He is a grinder. He is going to run people our team this year. You know, last year we had a lot of older guys you know, hey, let's do one for a gipper here. This is tbt. This is Throwback Thursday at tst. This year we got a lot of guys that are in great shape.
[172:30]
AJ Hawk
Who is Philip E. So that's the.
[172:32]
Pat McAfee
Thing about Philip E. He's goalie. He was goalie of the year, I think, in MASL last year or two years ago. Can play with his feet. Feet. So that's a big deal.
[172:40]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
[172:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So instead of having to substitute meat. Stefan Miatovic right there. Who's giving. He's talking to you, jj. He's talking to you, jj.
[172:49]
J.J. Watt
Care.
[172:49]
Pat McAfee
Quiet.
[172:50]
J.J. Watt
We're not.
[172:50]
Pat McAfee
Quiet your mouth. Quiet your moth. That's what. Mia Tova. Quiet your mouth is what he's saying there.
[172:56]
AJ Hawk
Swag.
[172:57]
J.J. Watt
I mean, he didn't.
[172:58]
Pat McAfee
He's not gonna have to play goalie this year. Whenever it gets to target.
[173:01]
AJ Hawk
Cold pile. And last but not least, the Indianapolis Outlaw. Yeah, obviously the kid. Yeah. Thomas Sander.
[173:06]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Sonner's back. I don't think that is the best photo of Thomas Sonner.
[173:09]
J.J. Watt
He looks more like. Like a linebacker.
[173:12]
Pat McAfee
That's what he does.
[173:14]
AJ Hawk
So he plays like he scores goals.
[173:15]
Pat McAfee
Mike Foss looking to get a lot more minutes this year. Hopefully.
[173:18]
J.J. Watt
Been training quite the forehead on him. Love it.
[173:23]
AJ Hawk
Whoa.
[173:24]
J.J. Watt
You gotta hit the ball. You gotta put the ball in the net.
[173:28]
Pat McAfee
I mean, look at it.
[173:29]
J.J. Watt
It's on two different screens.
[173:31]
Pat McAfee
It took up.
[173:31]
J.J. Watt
He had to move up to the next screen.
[173:33]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, he does have an eight head there. You're right.
[173:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Jesus Pacheco is a problem. You know, Gordo obviously back to.
[173:40]
J.J. Watt
Is there.
[173:41]
Pat McAfee
Maybe when you see him play, you go, that guy's running hard.
[173:44]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[173:44]
AJ Hawk
High knees.
[173:45]
Pat McAfee
Emmanuel Ledesma. Oh, my God.
[173:48]
J.J. Watt
Man, it looks like a UFC fighter. He looks like he beat the.
[173:50]
Pat McAfee
Well, that's the thing about our team, as you know, we set the tone and we win games.
[173:55]
J.J. Watt
And you didn't win it last year. What?
[173:57]
Pat McAfee
You're.
[173:57]
J.J. Watt
You're talking like. Talking like the defending champs.
[174:01]
Pat McAfee
We had no idea we were signing.
[174:03]
AJ Hawk
Up for quarterfinals, brother.
[174:04]
J.J. Watt
First run. Congrats. Raise a banner.
[174:07]
AJ Hawk
Raise a banner when we beat your ass.
[174:09]
Pat McAfee
We thought about it. I'll tell you what. If we could raise a banner, we would have. And if we.
[174:14]
J.J. Watt
Quarter finalist Conceifa put it up 61 against Burnley FC.
[174:18]
Pat McAfee
Have you ever. Did you know what you were signing up for last year?
[174:21]
J.J. Watt
Nope. Not at all.
[174:21]
Pat McAfee
Me neither. I know you think that Fos guy with that brain under there knew what he was signing up for? Whenever we went there no way.
[174:29]
J.J. Watt
No.
[174:29]
Pat McAfee
But now you think Tony Meola knew what the was going on last year?
[174:33]
J.J. Watt
Nobody did.
[174:33]
Pat McAfee
How about.
[174:35]
J.J. Watt
I don't know if many would have signed up if they did.
[174:36]
AJ Hawk
Tab was scouting.
[174:38]
Pat McAfee
What is your problem? I think more people would have signed up because of how great it is.
[174:42]
J.J. Watt
I need a team to root for this year.
[174:44]
Pat McAfee
So I'm cona. Let me tell you.
[174:46]
J.J. Watt
I'm open for bidding on fandom. You guys don't have to do it. You guys don't make it. Make you do it.
[175:06]
Pat McAfee
In our first try.
[175:07]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Great.
[175:08]
Pat McAfee
But unlike you, we're going back.
[175:11]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[175:11]
Pat McAfee
We're trying to conquer the beast that is tst and we got a great, great roster this year. You talk about everybody being upset about playing time. Sure, sure. That's going to come. We want that to come.
[175:20]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
[175:21]
Pat McAfee
You're talking about guys maybe being upset about not taking a free kick. Maybe somebody else takes a free kick who is definitely not going to score the free kick. He's just going to kick the ball out of the stadium. Now we got two other people upset about who's going to take the free kick. Maybe that does cause a little drama. We learn from those things. And whenever these fights stop start, that's when a culture takes over. Brother and Concave already has a culture.
[175:38]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[175:38]
Pat McAfee
We like to have a good time. Great time. Some of the team more so than the other.
[175:43]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Miss you. Ed Speed.
[175:45]
Pat McAfee
DJ Ed Speed is going to be missing. He was on the aux court.
[175:49]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[175:49]
Pat McAfee
He's not. He didn't make the team this year. Kind of bummed about that.
[175:52]
AJ Hawk
He got hurt too.
[175:55]
Pat McAfee
Speed was great before the game.
[175:56]
AJ Hawk
Great was.
[175:57]
Pat McAfee
I will say he might be on another team. Maybe he should be. He was our dj. So we're going to have to figure out who's going to take that role. Maybe Tob Ramos, coach. I've been hearing Tony Meola and Todd Ramos have been actually watching. Watching like film for the last couple months on this.
[176:12]
AJ Hawk
Of course.
[176:13]
Pat McAfee
Let's go like trying to. Boys also had a. Had a training camp.
[176:18]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, he did that last year.
[176:19]
Pat McAfee
No, last year. Vastly different. Had nobody knew what they were signing up for last year. We had no idea.
[176:24]
J.J. Watt
I thought you said you did a Florida training camp.
[176:25]
Pat McAfee
They did a Florida training camp. Yeah, they took a day.
[176:27]
J.J. Watt
Oh, so they did do it.
[176:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but nobody knew what they were doing. Now we have like a concentrated goal. Tony Meola's brain wrapped around with TST 7s Bob problematic for everybody else. Don't be surprised when oh becomes a million dollar program.
[176:45]
J.J. Watt
I will be surprised. Well, don't happily, happily surprise.
[176:50]
Pat McAfee
Well, just follow along and watch what Gordo does out there. Watch what D. Hoff does. Mario Alvarez back on the squad.
[176:57]
J.J. Watt
Did Gump have any possibility of making the playing team?
[177:00]
AJ Hawk
He. No.
[177:02]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, he might play.
[177:03]
AJ Hawk
Not at all.
[177:04]
Pat McAfee
No chance.
[177:04]
J.J. Watt
You should see him in warm ups, J. I know. That's what I'm saying. Like, he's got some skills. Gump, was there any lobbying at all you were trying to get out there?
[177:11]
AJ Hawk
I've lobbied a bit. I could be out there. We don't know yet.
[177:13]
J.J. Watt
Is that legal? Are you registered as a coach? Registration battles last year, so I know he's a coach. Are you guys. Are you guys using your ESPN powers to just.
[177:26]
Pat McAfee
Definitely. We tried to change the time of one of the games. We thought we had that type of sway. They went the complete opposite direction, and I was not happy about it. I was like, we fucking needed it this time, but we don't care. Scheduled it the other time. I'm like, I feel like we're doing a lot for this.
[177:39]
J.J. Watt
I feel like you're doing.
[177:40]
Pat McAfee
I feel like we're trying a lot. And you're like, no, the tournament has to remain the tournament. And after talking to them after the tournament, I have massive respect for the people that run this. They have a lot of passion, a lot of everything behind this. They're trying to keep this as a great tournament. Tbt, the basketball tournament, obviously, everybody knows, but about tst. Four times the size, like, the amount of people, tickets sold, everything. TST is like, very. This has become a very.
[178:05]
J.J. Watt
I think you're a massive player in that.
[178:06]
Pat McAfee
Well, we were only there last year.
[178:08]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[178:08]
Pat McAfee
So it's not crazy, but Concave is going to become a mainstay in tst, I think. Especially if we have the success that I think we're going to have this year. Look at Meat. I mean, just look at the eyes of Meat saying, there's a million dollar prize up for grabs. Okay, shut your mouth, jj. Shut your mouth, jj. You remember that night? You remember bumping into him a couple times?
[178:33]
J.J. Watt
I do.
[178:34]
AJ Hawk
Shoulder still hurts.
[178:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You still got a little bruise like I do against Gunther.
[178:37]
J.J. Watt
You guys are watching from the sidelines.
[178:40]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[178:41]
J.J. Watt
That's because we're part of the arena, man. In the arena.
[178:44]
Pat McAfee
Did you have any assists last year?
[178:46]
J.J. Watt
No.
[178:47]
Pat McAfee
Do you have any goals last year?
[178:48]
J.J. Watt
No.
[178:49]
Pat McAfee
So you left with completely zero on the stat sheet?
[178:51]
J.J. Watt
Yep.
[178:52]
Pat McAfee
Okay, sweet. I had the highlight of the tournament with the assist that I had. You talk about, man. In the Arena.
[178:57]
J.J. Watt
I agree with that.
[178:57]
Pat McAfee
I was in the area.
[178:58]
J.J. Watt
I agree with that. I do.
[178:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So check that off the box.
[179:01]
J.J. Watt
Talking about Muller man over there.
[179:02]
Pat McAfee
What are you talking about? He was in. He was in the trenches with the boys. Yeah.
[179:04]
AJ Hawk
We're part of the concave of crazy.
[179:07]
Pat McAfee
Thank you. Equipment managers, athletic trainers. There's a lot of people that go into the success of a team. They're part of that. Yeah. You caught him. A fat ass, actually.
[179:15]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, he was. He's kind of going back that way, but it's.
[179:21]
Pat McAfee
What the hell?
[179:23]
J.J. Watt
No, he's done a great job. Maybe you should hang out with Tone and get on some. There you go.
[179:27]
AJ Hawk
It's a good idea. Not a bad idea.
[179:33]
J.J. Watt
Be careful, man. Next week, I mean, next. That donut cart's gonna be there again.
[179:37]
AJ Hawk
But I'm gonna be outside.
[179:38]
Pat McAfee
I can't wait to enjoy it. I didn't get a chance to enjoy it last year.
[179:40]
J.J. Watt
It looked great. Good coffee. It did look good.
[179:43]
Pat McAfee
I'm gonna have. Just so everybody knows, I will have cleats on. I will have a uniform on just in case we start losing. Guys, we're up seven, eight. You got plenty of them. That graphic. I keep staring at it.
[179:54]
J.J. Watt
That's a lot of.
[179:54]
Pat McAfee
That's a lot.
[179:57]
AJ Hawk
How many guys on at once?
[179:58]
Pat McAfee
So you're allowed 20 on the roster. Okay.
[180:01]
AJ Hawk
On the field, 7v7. I can't wait.
[180:06]
J.J. Watt
You can't even do that. It's. It's 20 minutes. Running clock.
[180:09]
Pat McAfee
We ran out of gas last year, brother.
[180:11]
AJ Hawk
You ever seen Muddy Ducks? Full line changes. The Wednesday night team movie of all time, D2. Well said, coach.
[180:18]
Pat McAfee
Did you ever see it? Some of these people say I have not seen the movies that you promote. Is if you've seen. Oh, no.
[180:24]
J.J. Watt
What are you talking. I'm the opposite. I. I tell people that I openly. There's movies that I haven't seen that I should have seen.
[180:28]
Pat McAfee
Where? Some movies you should mission.
[180:31]
J.J. Watt
Braveheart.
[180:32]
Pat McAfee
What? You've never seen Braveheart? Because now at this point. What?
[180:37]
AJ Hawk
Wow.
[180:38]
J.J. Watt
I know. I'm telling you, these are on my list. I gotta get them.
[180:40]
Pat McAfee
How long have they been on your list? Sounds like this a long time.
[180:43]
J.J. Watt
It is a long time.
[180:44]
Pat McAfee
So you're just keeping this as a thing so you can.
[180:45]
J.J. Watt
No, I just. I like.
[180:47]
Pat McAfee
Hey, what's my movie thing?
[180:48]
J.J. Watt
There was. There was a while where I was like, all right, I. I will say Braveheart now for a big game. And then I didn't. Because I'm there. I gotta watch it. I'm watching Game of Thrones right now for the first time, all way through.
[180:59]
Pat McAfee
How is it?
[181:00]
J.J. Watt
Really good.
[181:00]
Pat McAfee
What season are you on?
[181:01]
J.J. Watt
Last one.
[181:02]
AJ Hawk
Wow.
[181:03]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations.
[181:04]
J.J. Watt
It's really good. There was one bad season in there, but the rest, really.
[181:07]
Pat McAfee
I heard the last season's a bad one.
[181:09]
J.J. Watt
Starbucks ending is really bad. That's what I've heard.
[181:11]
AJ Hawk
I'm pretty sure the last season has aged better than the initial reaction.
[181:15]
Pat McAfee
Everybody at the beginning was just calling this writer sellouts and everything, saying they mailed it in, there's Starbucks cups here, and this is happening.
[181:21]
AJ Hawk
That stuff.
[181:22]
J.J. Watt
Yes, I've heard the last episode. Like, I've heard people call the last. Last episode one of the worst episodes.
[181:26]
AJ Hawk
I think. I think that's just a little overblown in the time, for sure. And it also doesn't help that the fatso who wrote the thing, you know, just kind of keeps pushing off how it's supposed to end. So those. These guys were like, hey, well, okay, we gotta end it. How we're gonna end it then.
[181:38]
J.J. Watt
I'm looking forward to it. We're close. We're close.
[181:40]
Pat McAfee
What's that with George R.R.
[181:41]
AJ Hawk
Martin? You know, this guy, every single year, he's like, the books could be finished in six months. And then they check in. They're like, hey, fatso, you haven't written anything in the last 18 months. Is it still coming out in six months? And, well, you know, I had to go back and alter a few scenes.
[181:56]
Pat McAfee
Well, there's like a thousand characters, right?
[181:58]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, but, you know, the last book came out in, like, 1998.
[182:03]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[182:04]
Pat McAfee
Yes. He got paid mightily. And you want me to tie this whole thing together, huh? Okay.
[182:08]
AJ Hawk
You know how much more money he'd make if he just finished the goddamn thing?
[182:12]
J.J. Watt
I'm definitely in that stage right now where all of a sudden, all the characters are interacting with each other. Holy, you guys came together quick. Yeah, I just did Breaking Bad and Betters Call Saul. Oh, yeah. Great shows. Great, great shows.
[182:24]
AJ Hawk
And the problem is, George R.R. martin did this video game, Elden Ring. He did, like, the story design for it. And people aren't happy about, like, him doing, like that before finishing.
[182:34]
Pat McAfee
What's this guy's problem? He wants to focus on something else that's massively successful.
[182:38]
AJ Hawk
That's what I'm saying.
[182:39]
Pat McAfee
It.
[182:39]
AJ Hawk
What? I mean, Elden Ring is, like, one of the biggest video games of all time, but boom.
[182:43]
J.J. Watt
So, Eldon Ring.
[182:45]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[182:46]
Pat McAfee
You play video games? Hashtag ash. No, no, I don't watch any of the stuff you were talking about, either.
[182:53]
AJ Hawk
Better Call Saul and Breaking Bad.
[182:55]
J.J. Watt
They're very good.
[182:56]
AJ Hawk
Breaking Bad, I think, is a great show of all time. Then Better Call Saul is a prequel.
[182:59]
J.J. Watt
Yes.
[183:01]
Pat McAfee
Really Better than Saved by the Bill.
[183:02]
AJ Hawk
Well, different genre. Different genre. Saved by the belt right there, but different genre. Good points.
[183:09]
J.J. Watt
I saw somebody the other day say we need to bring shows like that back. I think it was Nate Bargazi. He was talking about how, like, we need shows like King of Queens. We need some of those just like classic everyday sitcoms that you just watch and feel good.
[183:20]
Pat McAfee
Why doesn't Bargazzi write it? I feel like he's the genius.
[183:22]
J.J. Watt
I think he might be. I think he was talking about his production company and the type of stuff he wants to produce.
[183:26]
Pat McAfee
He's so smart.
[183:26]
J.J. Watt
He's great. Nate's awesome.
[183:28]
AJ Hawk
Thompson girl just put that out. Thompson girl just put four episodes out that are good old, wholesome fun, like old school.
[183:33]
Pat McAfee
You're talking about bad thoughts. Yeah.
[183:35]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
[183:35]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if that's how it's being marketed. I. I had to. I had to talk about it on Monday Night Raw because Mystic Rick and the Machine were there right behind the desk. What a moment. What a moment for it all. Dragon Lee dives front flip out of the ring, all the way across our desk. And you just see Tom Segura's eyes just like, what the. It was his first ever wrestling.
[183:58]
AJ Hawk
Oh, really?
[183:58]
Pat McAfee
Event ever. Yeah, because he used to be anti.
[184:00]
AJ Hawk
Wrestling wrestling big time.
[184:01]
Pat McAfee
And then that was his first wrestling event. And I think he was just mind blown by it all. I think Tom Segura, people like that. Whenever you get. Have you ever been to a live.
[184:09]
J.J. Watt
No, I was just gonna say I want to come to one.
[184:11]
Pat McAfee
When you get to one and you watch it, you just think to yourself, herb Street. This is the most absurd.
[184:16]
J.J. Watt
Should I start with the WrestleMania or should I start with a introduction? Is there an introduction?
[184:21]
AJ Hawk
You start with WrestleMania. You start with WrestleMania.
[184:24]
J.J. Watt
All right.
[184:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You won't know all the stories going in, but they'll show you a video package. It'll give you. Give you at least enough of like a catch up and then you'll be able to get right into it. Just the app.
[184:33]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[184:33]
Pat McAfee
Obviously the athleticism is insane. The things that they're doing right in front of you is wild. Completely exposed by so many people. Like, what they're doing is insane. Can't miss a beat. Somebody could potentially die. But then all the. That's just happened there. It's. It's insane. It's Kirk. You gotta Take it for what it is. It's professional wrestling. You're watching sports entertainment here. You know, he's kind of got his escape a little bit. Kirk Harbisher. Yeah. Kirk CurbStreet. Went to WrestleMania. And his whole. His face the whole time was.
[184:59]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Legit.
[185:00]
Pat McAfee
He was sitting right over here. I could literally see it. And just then he would look over at me. It's like, yeah, dude, this is just. This is going to happen.
[185:07]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[185:07]
Pat McAfee
This is the whole time.
[185:08]
J.J. Watt
You need to get to one. Yeah, I want to see it. I sat with Triple H at the Arnold Classic years back and, like, tried to get into it, but I have never. I've never gotten into it. I think it's partially because I've never seen it live. I think seeing it live and I understanding I still have that whole thing in my head of, like. I don't want to say it aloud, but, like, what. I mean, I just. I have that in my head, so I just don't.
[185:30]
Pat McAfee
That hurts that you don't want to do it? That you get bruised for two, three weeks. I don't doubt that it hurts.
[185:35]
J.J. Watt
I don't doubt that. There's a lot going on there. I'm just telling you what I. From my perspective on it.
[185:40]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I'm just saying I don't know what your perspective is. What you're.
[185:43]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, you're alluding to kind of being negative about everything.
[185:46]
J.J. Watt
I'm not being negative about it. I want to go see it to.
[185:48]
Pat McAfee
I want.
[185:49]
J.J. Watt
Want to experience it. I'll be negative about ka. I mean, you guys.
[185:52]
AJ Hawk
What's your deal, dude?
[185:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So you should just honor your kings. We're in Premier League, brother. You're down in the whatchamacallit.
[185:58]
AJ Hawk
We're back on our perch. What's your thing that you can't get over? I don't understand.
[186:03]
J.J. Watt
It's not real.
[186:04]
Pat McAfee
What? Yeah, Dump that, please. It is real. Those who are great are rewarded.
[186:13]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, no doubt.
[186:14]
AJ Hawk
Out.
[186:15]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
[186:15]
AJ Hawk
You ever heard of Hulk Hogan, brother?
[186:17]
J.J. Watt
I sure have. I know that. I never watched it growing up. I wasn't. But I know all about Hulk Hogan. Wcw.
[186:24]
Pat McAfee
You tell me this ain't real. Watch tracking Chad Gable, brother. Boom boom.
[186:30]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, geez.
[186:31]
Pat McAfee
Right in front of Mystic Rick in a machine.
[186:33]
J.J. Watt
No doubt. It hurts. No doubt.
[186:36]
Pat McAfee
You know what? You're squatting 465. Six foot six, still look good. Why don't you just go find out if it's what you think it is?
[186:44]
J.J. Watt
No, that's why I didn't do it.
[186:45]
Pat McAfee
Why don't you?
[186:46]
J.J. Watt
After when I retired, people were like, you should. You should do something like wwe. And I was like, that's just as difficult on your body. Why the would I want to do that?
[186:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you could be good, though, at it. Because especially whenever you put those thirst trap photos out there. Yeah, that's really good for business.
[186:58]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, maybe. I mean, who knows? Haven't seen him take a chop, you know?
[187:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. From going through.
[187:04]
J.J. Watt
You think go back to the peanut gallery. All right.
[187:07]
AJ Hawk
I'm just.
[187:08]
J.J. Watt
Stay in your lane.
[187:09]
Pat McAfee
I'm just saying, you think you can handle a chop? From getting there, pal.
[187:12]
AJ Hawk
I've trained in the squared circle, baby. Okay. I've been in there.
[187:15]
J.J. Watt
We could go see if you could take a chop. How about that?
[187:17]
AJ Hawk
Oh, we've seen it. I've taken a kendo steak, too, brother Candlestick.
[187:21]
Pat McAfee
Kendo?
[187:24]
J.J. Watt
What's that?
[187:25]
Pat McAfee
Let's get back to this thing. I'm so disgusted. Let's go to Hashtag Ash Jades. It's from a sweet cavity. Sweet cavity. He's disappointed with you, Jerry.
[187:33]
AJ Hawk
I can't believe he said that.
[187:36]
Pat McAfee
Your thoughts on how teams stopped the Tush push. Also your thoughts on if it should be banned since the Eagles and Buffalo Bills are the only ones that are good at it.
[187:44]
J.J. Watt
Well, the Bills got stopped on it in the playoffs.
[187:45]
Pat McAfee
Yes. Massive moment.
[187:47]
J.J. Watt
But I don't think it should be banned. I mean, if you're good at something, you shouldn't be punished for it. I do. If you want to take the push part of it away, like. Or like.
[187:55]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
[187:56]
J.J. Watt
I just.
[187:56]
Pat McAfee
Why you're indifferent. It's not.
[187:58]
J.J. Watt
They're great at it.
[187:59]
AJ Hawk
It.
[187:59]
J.J. Watt
Don't punish them for being great at it. The thing that I'm most impressed by, hands down, as a player, is that their offensive line manages to stay onside every single time. Because as you're out there on the field, you're for sure they're offside. You're like, there's no way that they're onside, but they are all lined up perfectly. They time it up perfectly. They're incredible at it. The defensive teams often, almost every single time, are offside. You can watch that clip right there. The overhead shot. They're lined up offside. The defense is actually the one technically wrong every time. If you watch it, which is wild.
[188:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And you still can't stop it. Jalen hurts.
[188:31]
AJ Hawk
How do you stop?
[188:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[188:33]
J.J. Watt
You don't like. That's. I. I've been on teams where we played the Eagles while they were tush Pushing, and people are like, how do you stop? I'm like, you can't. Like, you could lay a guy down on the ground to try and stop him low. You could put a guy over the top and try and stop him high. But they know the snap count. You don't. So they have the one advantage that you can't have, and they're going to win age.
[188:51]
Pat McAfee
How would you stop it? It.
[188:52]
AJ Hawk
You got to find a way to have, like, two guys at the point get an absolute jump and just almost hit the ball as it's being snapped to, like, to stop all the momentum, but then they're still going to get pushed.
[189:01]
J.J. Watt
So I. I honestly don't really know.
[189:03]
Pat McAfee
They were doing hard counts in the Super Bowl, Right. Or NFC Championship Washington. Yeah, they were doing hard counts. And it's like, once you add hard counts into it, completely screwed.
[189:12]
AJ Hawk
Unstoppable. Yeah. I think it's just.
[189:13]
Pat McAfee
It is unstoppable.
[189:15]
J.J. Watt
I believe it hasn't. Look at that. You got. Just put the big dogs, like, as big as you got.
[189:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but I don't know how many Vita Veas are out there.
[189:22]
J.J. Watt
No. Well, they got the guy from Florida. Yeah.
[189:24]
AJ Hawk
Who's four, who's 430 pounds. So, like, him and Vita Vea. Like, that might be the only way to consistently stop it is get two dudes who are over £400.
[189:33]
J.J. Watt
But I don't even know, like, if you ask the Eagles, if you ask Jason Kellis or you ask somebody, I don't know if they would give you an answer on how to stop it. I don't think he. I literally don't know. I think he might say, there's nothing you can really do do.
[189:44]
Pat McAfee
Have you seen how good your hair looks up Arrow Nick?
[189:47]
J.J. Watt
I'm not sure on it. It looks love like that. There's way too much hype going on it.
[189:52]
Pat McAfee
Foxy. Let's get a little.
[189:54]
J.J. Watt
It's bad.
[189:54]
Pat McAfee
Can we get a little zoom on it?
[189:57]
AJ Hawk
Looks good. The more you touch it, the worse you get.
[189:59]
Pat McAfee
No, no, I disagree. It's supposed to be. I think your hair is supposed to be.
[190:02]
AJ Hawk
It's flowing. You can do that.
[190:04]
Pat McAfee
Look at that. It looks good, dude.
[190:06]
AJ Hawk
Great volume, jj.
[190:08]
Pat McAfee
That's good hair.
[190:09]
J.J. Watt
Maybe a little straight out of a hat.
[190:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But maybe fade on the side. You could still do the fade, too, on the side.
[190:13]
AJ Hawk
Get this guy a Pantene Pro V commercial.
[190:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's right.
[190:15]
AJ Hawk
Herbal Essences. Yeah.
[190:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[190:18]
J.J. Watt
This. I feel like we're at a point in the show that we have no we got.
[190:23]
AJ Hawk
Are you a head and shoulders guy?
[190:24]
Pat McAfee
Let's get the last question here for Ash Jade, shall we? I don't like how negative you've been about everything. Your hair included. Your hair is awesome. Gumpy, what's this all about? Has he been drinking out of your poutine back there?
[190:34]
J.J. Watt
I've been pretty far.
[190:35]
AJ Hawk
I been pretty positive today, to be fair.
[190:37]
Pat McAfee
I agree.
[190:38]
J.J. Watt
I thought it was going to be.
[190:38]
AJ Hawk
Super positive with JJ in the building, but I guess not.
[190:41]
J.J. Watt
I'm having a blast.
[190:42]
AJ Hawk
Me too. I'd be having a better time.
[190:45]
J.J. Watt
Like you guys are living it. This is awesome.
[190:47]
Pat McAfee
Superstar Wednesday too.
[190:48]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[190:50]
J.J. Watt
Yep.
[190:50]
Pat McAfee
Let's get to the last ash stage. This is case midi. 1734. Long time ago, J. Pay your respects. Hashtag Ash stage. What are your thoughts about Mission Impossible? The final recognition and could you do the stunts? You think? Six foot six, 275. Just an absolute son of a bitch. 66275. Hanging off the wing. What are your thoughts?
[191:15]
J.J. Watt
No, I think Tom's unbelievable.
[191:16]
Pat McAfee
Did you watch the Final Mission?
[191:18]
J.J. Watt
Not yet. I watched, I saw some of your guys interview. That's awesome. That's. That was really cool.
[191:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was.
[191:23]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I. I have so much respect for somebody who committed to being the best at what they do and truly follows through with it every single time. And he has clearly done that and he has. He holds his industry and he holds everybody in it to the level that.
[191:38]
Pat McAfee
He.
[191:40]
J.J. Watt
Expects it to be at. And he lives up to that every single time. I mean, the shit he does is unbelievable. It's insane. And even though he shows us how it's done, even though they show us all the takes, like, I don't think anybody truly understands. And to your point about. About not having to put yourself out there like we talked about working out with the seals or whatever, he has zero reason whatsoever to be hanging off the side of a plane. He has zero reason to be climbing up a building, yet he continues to do it because he feels an obligation. I mean, Tom Cruise is insane.
[192:07]
Pat McAfee
62 years old too. He's committing seven days a week. He's constantly thinking about movies. How can I get better? What? Can I get better? Seven days a week? It never stops. I'm always on Unreal 62. He's gonna do that till he dies.
[192:18]
AJ Hawk
Yes. Oh yeah.
[192:19]
Pat McAfee
Every day of his life. Life is gonna wake up. How can I make a better movie? How can I make a movie?
[192:22]
AJ Hawk
Thank God.
[192:22]
Pat McAfee
It's like he found his. He's found his calling and he is fully committed to it.
[192:25]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, he's just. I mean, his energy seems incredible. Like, he just. I mean. And you talk to people around him and they're like. When you're around him, he just. You feel a different aura. You feel a different energy. You want to be better, to be around him. It's. It's special.
[192:39]
Pat McAfee
Will you watch? Have you watched all the Mission Impossibles?
[192:41]
J.J. Watt
No, I haven't.
[192:42]
Pat McAfee
You have not watched all the Mission Impossible? Oh, my God. It's disgusting.
[192:45]
AJ Hawk
Testing any of them?
[192:46]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I. No, I haven't seen any of them.
[192:48]
Pat McAfee
You don't know Ethan Hunt? Crazy, man.
[192:50]
AJ Hawk
No, that's crazy.
[192:52]
Pat McAfee
We'll have moment of silence for J.J. watt not having a clue what the he's talking about. You watch Top Gun Maverick?
[193:00]
J.J. Watt
I'm trying. Yeah, I did. I'm trying to get where you heard that. I see cocktail movies. Why would I lie about that?
[193:06]
Pat McAfee
That's a. Wear those T shirts and you always say, like, that's super cool throwback thing.
[193:11]
J.J. Watt
I only wear ones that I've actually watched. The Office Ducks.
[193:15]
Pat McAfee
American Made.
[193:17]
J.J. Watt
American Made.
[193:18]
AJ Hawk
It's another TC classic. Great one based on true story.
[193:22]
Pat McAfee
Cocktail is a good one from aj.
[193:23]
J.J. Watt
You ever see that Sherry Maguire mag?
[193:27]
AJ Hawk
Magnoia is under the radar 1y and.
[193:29]
J.J. Watt
Arizona has not changed since that movie.
[193:31]
AJ Hawk
Born on the 4th of July. Yep. Risky Business.
[193:35]
Pat McAfee
12 billion at the box office. You should seen Night Man.
[193:38]
J.J. Watt
I've seen some. I've seen both Top Guns, Collateral.
[193:41]
AJ Hawk
Is he bringing a fat guy back?
[193:43]
J.J. Watt
Last.
[193:44]
AJ Hawk
Last gross? They might.
[193:46]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Was this the last mission possible?
[193:49]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. No, it's called the final, final reckoning. You're just gonna have to see them all to find out.
[193:55]
Pat McAfee
How many of them are there?
[193:56]
AJ Hawk
8.
[193:57]
Pat McAfee
You can watch those.
[193:58]
J.J. Watt
I'll do it for. I'll do it.
[194:00]
AJ Hawk
They're so good. Do it for Tom.
[194:01]
Pat McAfee
Do it for what?
[194:02]
AJ Hawk
From.
[194:03]
Pat McAfee
For the good of the industry. See at the movies. Maybe you should rent out a movie theater to watch all eight of them straight through.
[194:08]
AJ Hawk
Oh, I'll come.
[194:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So. So.
[194:11]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[194:12]
J.J. Watt
That would take about 20 hours.
[194:14]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Greatest day of your life, give or take. It's probably gonna be a great day.
[194:17]
J.J. Watt
That would be a. That'd be fun. A lot of popcorn.
[194:21]
Pat McAfee
A lot of popcorn. Was he eating that popcorn or what?
[194:23]
J.J. Watt
Yes, absolutely. Still, the reason he dropped that one was because he hit the bucket. It didn't drop out of his hand.
[194:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the bucket's spilled. But that could have been the gimmick to make it look like there's popcorn in there.
[194:31]
J.J. Watt
That was cool.
[194:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[194:34]
J.J. Watt
Like the like legend throwing the dice.
[194:36]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[194:36]
J.J. Watt
Imagine him on a craps table. Imagine a night he's probably.
[194:40]
Pat McAfee
He's probably running on top of it. If I had to guess. Stance on top of the.
[194:43]
J.J. Watt
You know, before he throws it. He's just saying think about how much.
[194:47]
Pat McAfee
Popcorn he's had to eat to be that comfortable with the.
[194:49]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[194:50]
Pat McAfee
What's going on, boys?
[194:51]
AJ Hawk
Boom.
[194:52]
Pat McAfee
That's why somebody else's movie. Movie. Shut up and watch a film. Watches a movie a day. Is that what he said?
[194:59]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[195:00]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Big on popcorn. Yeah.
[195:01]
AJ Hawk
Two bucks.
[195:01]
J.J. Watt
He loves the fiber in it.
[195:02]
Pat McAfee
He said two big buck. He said that.
[195:04]
J.J. Watt
Thought he said he loves the fiber. And he did. Said popcorn.
[195:07]
Pat McAfee
Said to us. I didn't think.
[195:09]
J.J. Watt
I don't know if it was for you, but I mean, that was his popcorn take. He was like, I can't eat a lot of things, but I can eat a lot of popcorn. It's got fiber, it's healthy.
[195:15]
Pat McAfee
Makes you feel.
[195:16]
AJ Hawk
I saw he's got a great Daffy Duck impression.
[195:19]
Pat McAfee
Really?
[195:19]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. I saw yesterday for the first time after the Pacers came, I was just like going through stuff.
[195:24]
Pat McAfee
The algorithm.
[195:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. And the algo fed me this unbelievable.
[195:27]
Pat McAfee
I haven't got to the Daffy Duck Tom Cruise yet, but they've sent me all of his stunts in my algo. Shout out to my algorithm.
[195:33]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[195:33]
J.J. Watt
A lot of Tom Cruise in the algo.
[195:35]
AJ Hawk
Rightly so.
[195:36]
Pat McAfee
You might be Tom Cruise someday. Jj. You don't know. Number two analyst for CBS this year on NFL games. And you know, in the future you might be tomorrow, might be the next Tom Cruise.
[195:47]
AJ Hawk
No, it's nothing against you there. There is never. There's never going to be anyone.
[195:52]
J.J. Watt
Correct.
[195:52]
AJ Hawk
Like tc, you know, we're talking about Mission Impossible. And yeah. He's doing some sweet.
[195:57]
J.J. Watt
That is a Mission Impossible.
[195:58]
AJ Hawk
It is In a couple years. This guy is going to be the new test.
[196:01]
J.J. Watt
Glenn Powell.
[196:03]
AJ Hawk
Yes and no. We're still the. The journey.
[196:06]
J.J. Watt
Are you in on that?
[196:08]
Pat McAfee
We like Glenn Powell.
[196:09]
AJ Hawk
I love Glenn.
[196:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[196:09]
J.J. Watt
I mean, no question.
[196:10]
Pat McAfee
Great.
[196:11]
AJ Hawk
TC is gonna fucking do a spacewalk. He's going to spate. That's his next big time stunt actually going. Yes. He is going to be the first civilian do a movie.
[196:19]
Pat McAfee
Right.
[196:19]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. On the moon to actually do a spacewalk.
[196:22]
Pat McAfee
A spacewalk. That's outside the space.
[196:23]
AJ Hawk
Correct. I believe he's going up to the International Space Station for a movie that he's shooting and that's going.
[196:28]
Pat McAfee
So that's gonna be a cold open of him.
[196:31]
AJ Hawk
Outside of that, fixing the Hubble Telescope.
[196:33]
Pat McAfee
With the Earth behind. Yeah, with Earth behind. Yeah. And he's gonna get knocked loose or something and he's gonna come back in.
[196:39]
J.J. Watt
Who's gonna film it?
[196:42]
AJ Hawk
I've been thinking about that quite a bit. I don't know how many, like, directors of photography are signing up for, like, McHugh. No, no, no, that's my thing. That's.
[196:53]
Pat McAfee
He'll.
[196:53]
J.J. Watt
He'll mount the camera.
[196:54]
AJ Hawk
That is probably what they'll end up doing. Because I don't think anyone's signing up to be like, yeah, I'll go walk in space with you.
[197:00]
J.J. Watt
Or do you just teach an astronaut?
[197:02]
Pat McAfee
That's what I think. I think you have an astronaut maybe holding the hand. Hell, maybe that's.
[197:05]
J.J. Watt
I mean, these guys are getting stuck up there. We're going to have TC getting stuck up there for a year.
[197:11]
AJ Hawk
He would just jump. Yeah. TC would be able to pilot back or swim back. He would swim back. You're right.
[197:18]
Pat McAfee
All the way. All the.
[197:20]
AJ Hawk
Through the atmosphere. Yeah. Until he gets to, like, the outer ring of the ozone. And then he could just. And go right into the closest ocean.
[197:29]
Pat McAfee
He'd wait for Earth to spin.
[197:31]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, exactly.
[197:31]
Pat McAfee
He'd swim to a spot where he could get comfortable, wait for Earth to spin, and then boom. That's where I want. Mediterranean.
[197:37]
AJ Hawk
Mediterranean, pick up speed. And then he's just.
[197:40]
J.J. Watt
They'd come out riding a dolphin for sure.
[197:43]
Pat McAfee
The queue would be right behind him the whole time.
[197:45]
AJ Hawk
I got it. I got it.
[197:46]
Pat McAfee
Could I. Space station. They have satellite up there, right? Yeah. So you probably set up a ptz. If I had to guess right.
[197:53]
AJ Hawk
Tommy ain't filming with a ptz. Why, are you kidding me?
[197:57]
Pat McAfee
You don't think they put a PTZ outside the.
[198:00]
AJ Hawk
Not a chance. Tom's gonna look at that. One second. That quality. I'm not doing that for a. This is not good.
[198:06]
Pat McAfee
You're telling me they don't have an 8K?
[198:08]
AJ Hawk
It'll be like an IMAX camera. Probably. It'll be. It'll be. It'll be the only kind of camera that it'll be specifically made for them to go. He's inventing it. I bet he's inventing the cameras that he would. Without a doubt.
[198:19]
J.J. Watt
Good job.
[198:20]
Pat McAfee
That cold open of him sure mess around on the outside of space station. Whistling probably.
[198:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. I hope it's not a cold open because I hope we see him piloting the fucking rocket ship off the launch pad up.
[198:31]
Pat McAfee
Oh.
[198:32]
AJ Hawk
To get up there, because he's gonna do that as well.
[198:34]
J.J. Watt
That's later. The cold Opens throwback.
[198:38]
AJ Hawk
Could be. Start with. Now we're cooking. Start with.
[198:41]
Pat McAfee
Tom's already thought of all this. We shouldn't even act like we know what the fuck's gonna happen.
[198:44]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, he knows.
[198:45]
Pat McAfee
It's gonna be amazing. He's gonna be walking outside with his own camera.
[198:50]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
[198:50]
Pat McAfee
What if it's on, like one of those sticks that he does?
[198:54]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Could be those cameras that just shoot.
[198:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah. So he films himself there. Maybe it's on this. The glasses that have the camera meta.
[199:03]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[199:04]
J.J. Watt
And no, because he couldn't film himself.
[199:06]
Pat McAfee
No.
[199:06]
AJ Hawk
He might go to Mars. He might go to Mars.
[199:07]
Pat McAfee
He's holding a mannequin. He's holding the mannequin up with his glasses.
[199:12]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
[199:12]
J.J. Watt
That could be it. That could be it.
[199:14]
Pat McAfee
You know?
[199:16]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. You could put a camera on the American flag eggpole that's on the moon. And you can just do a moon.
[199:20]
AJ Hawk
Let's not get into that.
[199:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, definitely what he can do.
[199:23]
AJ Hawk
That's a good idea. Because if he does that, that means.
[199:27]
Pat McAfee
He never left Earth, you know, jj, think about this. The moon is. Rest in peace. Jim Mercy. The moon is250,000 miles away.
[199:39]
J.J. Watt
Okay.
[199:41]
Pat McAfee
Mars, 250 million miles away.
[199:46]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
[199:47]
Pat McAfee
I saw Elon tweet that we could get to Mars in six months if the planets are lined up at the right thing is the projection in the future whenever we are inevitably traveling to these places on a regular basis. Seems like that's gonna happen at some point. Are you gonna sign up to do one of those or.
[200:02]
J.J. Watt
No, not first.
[200:05]
Pat McAfee
Would you go to the moon if you're offered to go to the moon?
[200:07]
J.J. Watt
If 5,000 thousand people went before me, I need some. I need some assurance that that's.
[200:15]
Pat McAfee
That's pretty. How many people have gone to the moon?
[200:17]
AJ Hawk
Whole bunch. A whole bunch of nothing.
[200:20]
Pat McAfee
What are you talking about?
[200:22]
AJ Hawk
I don't think you want to get into. Yeah, I don't, but I mean, we're.
[200:26]
J.J. Watt
Definitely going down a road here. My current guess is we never lay.
[200:28]
AJ Hawk
It out on the moon. That's what. That's okay.
[200:30]
J.J. Watt
I know. I mean, it's clearly. We know where you stand.
[200:32]
Pat McAfee
It's a fact.
[200:33]
J.J. Watt
How many claims? What do you look at?
[200:35]
AJ Hawk
Is it is a thousand percent fact that we never went to the moon?
[200:38]
Pat McAfee
People would have to keep a secret. That would be a wild secret to keep. But once again, you know, with the technology advances, there's a chance they could have faked that. What is real? Nothing's real. I like to think we went to the Moon.
[200:50]
J.J. Watt
And did you go?
[200:52]
Pat McAfee
Same thing with you Got to.
[200:54]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Got to get.
[200:54]
Pat McAfee
I need to see others do it. Yeah, that's like in your. You bought a plane?
[200:58]
J.J. Watt
No.
[200:59]
Pat McAfee
You bought two planes?
[201:00]
J.J. Watt
Nope.
[201:01]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
[201:02]
AJ Hawk
Why would you guys want to go?
[201:04]
Pat McAfee
Just because.
[201:05]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I mean, just to be like.
[201:06]
J.J. Watt
There'S a look back at Earth.
[201:07]
AJ Hawk
Hang out.
[201:08]
J.J. Watt
If you got experience.
[201:09]
Pat McAfee
12 people have walked on Earth's moon, says Wikipedia. The first one was obviously Neil Armstrong, and the last one was Eugene Cernan. All crewed moon landings took place between 1969 and 1972 as part of the United States. Apollo, all of them.
[201:25]
AJ Hawk
12 people did it. Then we just stopped. Correct.
[201:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Check the box, brother.
[201:30]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[201:30]
AJ Hawk
It's never happens.
[201:32]
Pat McAfee
There's people that feel that way.
[201:33]
AJ Hawk
I hate. And I didn't feel this way until I learned that they made a call.
[201:38]
J.J. Watt
They made a call from the Oval Office.
[201:40]
AJ Hawk
All the way to the moon in 1969.
[201:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's not me to call my wife, she's right down the road.
[201:45]
AJ Hawk
And what world is that possible? Not this one. This one right here.
[201:51]
J.J. Watt
Space station.
[201:51]
Pat McAfee
Then you look in, you FaceTime with the space station.
[201:54]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[201:54]
Pat McAfee
What'd you say? Hey, team, how we doing?
[201:56]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, just checking in twice. I've done it.
[201:58]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[201:59]
Pat McAfee
Oh, that's Houston. We have a problem.
[202:00]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, once was that from the facility, which was really cool. And then once was from the space.
[202:04]
AJ Hawk
From NASA.
[202:06]
Pat McAfee
Big delay. No. How was the little delay?
[202:08]
J.J. Watt
There was a little delay. I'm trying to remember why the first one was. Because we did it from the stadium. I think it was. I don't know if it was during the hurricane. There was something.
[202:16]
Pat McAfee
That's awesome. Hold on one second. Because we were going to try to put a request in for the two astronauts that were stuck in space or whatever to join the show. Feels like they do.
[202:25]
J.J. Watt
Oh, yeah.
[202:25]
Pat McAfee
Interaction with Earth.
[202:27]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, they definitely do interaction. We. I wouldn't be first on the list for them to call if they didn't.
[202:33]
Pat McAfee
How long was your conversation with them?
[202:36]
J.J. Watt
The one was, when I was at NASA, it was just like, hey, how's it going? But then the one at the stadium, that was like a good five, 10 minutes. We got to ask them some questions and they showed us around a little bit. It was really cool.
[202:46]
Pat McAfee
Well, they do show us around. Water floating around.
[202:47]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, like all the, you know, little.
[202:49]
Pat McAfee
So you basically said, dance, dance. I mean, do the anti gravity thing.
[202:54]
AJ Hawk
And they did it back.
[202:55]
J.J. Watt
That was great. It was really cool. I felt. I felt cool.
[202:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Do the. Did they tell you to do The Watt thing?
[203:02]
J.J. Watt
No, I don't want to. I didn't want to embarrass myself or them or waste our airspace from between here and the moon. I guess they. They weren't on the moon.
[203:12]
AJ Hawk
It's a lot.
[203:13]
Darius J. Butler
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
[203:14]
Pat McAfee
Who?
[203:14]
J.J. Watt
It was in the space station.
[203:15]
Pat McAfee
Okay? I thought you were joining.
[203:17]
J.J. Watt
Thirteen sunrises in one day, I think.
[203:19]
Pat McAfee
Space station says that.
[203:20]
J.J. Watt
I think so. Isn't that the number they see, like, 13 sunrises in one day?
[203:23]
AJ Hawk
Why would they still be up there, not go to the moon?
[203:28]
Pat McAfee
Because they're doing research up there, bud. What are they going to do there on space?
[203:32]
AJ Hawk
We don't need to go to the moon. We already got all the soil samples 50 years ago. What else is there? Oh, no, nothing.
[203:38]
Pat McAfee
1969, 1972. We already figured exactly.
[203:40]
AJ Hawk
You know why we went to the moon? Because we were trying to win the space race. And we won.
[203:45]
Pat McAfee
Congrats to us.
[203:46]
AJ Hawk
Ball game over. Suck my dick, Russia. That's exactly what we said. And that was the end of it. All right? And we haven't had to go back. I'm all for that, man. I just. I just don't. I just don't think it happened.
[204:02]
J.J. Watt
We got our ratings for our four right there.
[204:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. We got to get out of here. It's been a good day. Want to celebrate this Pacers Knicks game in proper fashion? I think we did that.
[204:11]
AJ Hawk
I think so, too.
[204:12]
Pat McAfee
We want to talk about the Dallas Stars potentially being dead. I think we talked about that. We got a chance. What do you think? What do you think?
[204:18]
J.J. Watt
We're not dead.
[204:20]
AJ Hawk
Stuart Skinner has to turn to a pumpkin. He's been playing like Dominic Hasek. It's blowing my mind.
[204:26]
Pat McAfee
He's back to form, guys.
[204:27]
J.J. Watt
Shite.
[204:28]
AJ Hawk
Been shite all year.
[204:29]
Pat McAfee
Oh, the guy who's up 31 in Dallas. Stars of shite. Okay. In the Western Conference finals. Okay, Got it.
[204:35]
AJ Hawk
I mean, he got pulled like he lost his starting job during these playoffs. Then the other guy got hurt. It's the only reason he got back in the net.
[204:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And guess who got a swagger back.
[204:44]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, he's good right now, but he.
[204:46]
Pat McAfee
Has sucked at some point.
[204:49]
AJ Hawk
Feels like it might be McJesus's year.
[204:51]
Pat McAfee
McJesus vs. The Panthers Stanley Cup Final.
[204:56]
AJ Hawk
Zach Hyman's out. Yeah. Oiler's got Noah shot against the Cats.
[205:00]
Pat McAfee
If they get there. Oilers are currently tied with the Florida Panthers.
[205:04]
AJ Hawk
Wow.
[205:05]
Pat McAfee
For the odds on favorite. I like the Panthers a lot. Not because I don't like Canada and I don't like Seeing Canada have a team win, that would be cool. To continue the trend though of American teams winning.
[205:18]
AJ Hawk
Amen.
[205:18]
Pat McAfee
We will thank you. The Florida Panthers and the state of Florida over the last like five years. And Marshy really holding it down for us. And Marshy obviously take taking a trip down to Florida making that happen. But McJesus winning would be very cool. But this Panthers team just feels like the right. They just got the right. I like to cut it their gym.
[205:35]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. So much physicality.
[205:36]
Pat McAfee
So much physicality.
[205:37]
AJ Hawk
Got some guys back too tonight. Rhino's back.
[205:40]
Pat McAfee
Really?
[205:41]
AJ Hawk
Greer's back.
[205:42]
Pat McAfee
Whoa, whoa.
[205:44]
AJ Hawk
Star's got a lot of physicality too. And Oilers are giving it to him.
[205:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's because McJesus can just dance on that ice. He's just dancing on that ice.
[205:53]
AJ Hawk
The guys take cheap shots too. Whacking our guys feet and trying to break them too. I mean, let's.
[205:58]
Pat McAfee
You know, I'm about done with it.
[206:00]
AJ Hawk
All right. The Oilers just do stupid. And everybody says it's playoff hockey. It's okay.
[206:05]
J.J. Watt
It's cheap shots. All right?
[206:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but Edmonton's a great city.
[206:09]
AJ Hawk
Is it?
[206:10]
J.J. Watt
Do it back. Why aren't you boys doing it?
[206:12]
AJ Hawk
We did that. We actually knocked two guys out last game, so.
[206:16]
Pat McAfee
And cheap shots or no, they were great hit.
[206:18]
AJ Hawk
It's just laid them up.
[206:20]
Pat McAfee
Hockey. Yeah, you. You were saying? It's hy funny.
[206:22]
J.J. Watt
Playoff hockey.
[206:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it is.
[206:24]
AJ Hawk
That's what I was told.
[206:25]
Pat McAfee
Edmonton, though. Good town. I heard.
[206:27]
J.J. Watt
Is it?
[206:28]
Pat McAfee
That's what I've been told.
[206:31]
AJ Hawk
Or the ice, if you will. I've heard that.
[206:33]
Pat McAfee
Across the ponds, huh?
[206:34]
AJ Hawk
Got the double double there too. Yeah, they invented the double double double again.
[206:39]
Pat McAfee
Edmonton invented Timmy Horton. So we have video of J.J. watt down there at Nasta. This is him practicing space.
[206:48]
AJ Hawk
Sweet.
[206:48]
Pat McAfee
It's only a matter of time before this is the real deal. And he does have a hockey helmet on. Oh, damn.
[206:55]
AJ Hawk
I'm gonna have down there and practice space for a bit. I'll be back later. I mean, that's neat. Yeah, it was cool.
[207:08]
J.J. Watt
It was cool. I did not. I did not know what to expect. And now NASA's a cool.
[207:13]
Pat McAfee
I mean, so they said we got one triple XL helmet. Okay. We got JJ wallets, loosen the strap, simulator.
[207:20]
AJ Hawk
What was the spacewalk?
[207:23]
Pat McAfee
Is this what Tom Cruise is doing? You don't remember what this is?
[207:26]
J.J. Watt
I remember doing. I don't remember what my goal was. I think I was just experiencing anti gravity.
[207:32]
AJ Hawk
That's why I'll never be tc.
[207:33]
Pat McAfee
How'd you feel? They had your feet locked up too.
[207:35]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. You got everything locked up. It's.
[207:37]
AJ Hawk
Oh, that's scary.
[207:38]
Pat McAfee
Look like a gray everything.
[207:39]
J.J. Watt
They pull the wrong button. You're going a couple different directions there.
[207:43]
Pat McAfee
What's his name? Christian Gray.
[207:49]
AJ Hawk
Ten sets of space. Man, that is. That is unbelievable.
[207:51]
J.J. Watt
There's a lot going on.
[207:52]
Pat McAfee
How long were you up there for?
[207:53]
J.J. Watt
Not that long, I thought.
[207:55]
Pat McAfee
Thank you for your service.
[207:58]
J.J. Watt
I really was vulnerable.
[207:59]
Pat McAfee
Why do they have your ankle like. That's the. That's the. The.
[208:02]
J.J. Watt
Because if they were hanging, what then you're not Anti gravity.
[208:05]
Pat McAfee
You know, I used. I did the 3, 2, 1 fly at Kennywood.
[208:10]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah, me too.
[208:11]
Pat McAfee
It was the. What they call it, swing shot thing.
[208:14]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[208:15]
Pat McAfee
Sky coaster.
[208:16]
J.J. Watt
Oh, yeah.
[208:16]
Pat McAfee
And he put us in a little batsuit and the legs were certainly kind of attached in the back there. You feel like they're in control completely.
[208:23]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[208:23]
Pat McAfee
That's kind of where you were doing there.
[208:25]
J.J. Watt
You ever do the, like, the sky zone where you fly over the. Like you. It's like skydiving, but indoors.
[208:30]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
[208:30]
J.J. Watt
Somebody turns that fan off when you're. And you're.
[208:33]
Pat McAfee
Did you enjoy it? You were able to do that 66275.
[208:35]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Did it with some Navy SEALs. It was awesome.
[208:38]
Pat McAfee
And you're.
[208:39]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[208:39]
Pat McAfee
Did you do any flips?
[208:40]
J.J. Watt
No, I was not trying anything. But staying afloat, those guys can do some really cool.
[208:45]
AJ Hawk
You go sky.
[208:46]
J.J. Watt
I don't like, like, I'm. Like you said, I'm a big guy. So you start to get off the ground and you start to put yourself in some weird places.
[208:53]
AJ Hawk
Break your neck.
[208:54]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[208:54]
Pat McAfee
You think people underestimate how big you are until they see you in real life.
[208:58]
AJ Hawk
Life.
[208:59]
J.J. Watt
I. I don't know.
[209:00]
AJ Hawk
Definitely.
[209:01]
Pat McAfee
I think so. You're obnoxiously large.
[209:03]
J.J. Watt
I can definitely tell, like, I can tell at times, like, if I'm bigger from working out or if I haven't been working out as intensely. Like, people react differently based on. If you're like, oh, like if I'm fully jacked up, like, it's much, much different.
[209:17]
Pat McAfee
Full, strapped up.
[209:18]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[209:18]
Pat McAfee
They say, holy, look at this thing. And then whenever you're. You're me just flopping around, they're not really that impressive.
[209:23]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, I'm trying to lose, like, I. I need to let myself lose some weight. I feel a lot better when I'm lighter. My body, my joints.
[209:30]
Pat McAfee
But you need to get 465 on that back three times on.
[209:33]
J.J. Watt
I mean, when you're in the gym. I'm in the gym yesterday, public, and I got I got. There's like four or five people there. Like, I. I can't just do 225. Like, I got it.
[209:42]
Pat McAfee
No, you can't, dude. It's an audience of one. Always has been, always will be.
[209:45]
AJ Hawk
God.
[209:46]
Pat McAfee
God.
[209:46]
J.J. Watt
He wants to see it. Like, why wouldn't he want to?
[209:48]
Pat McAfee
Or she. Jesus Christ.
[209:49]
AJ Hawk
He knows it.
[209:50]
Pat McAfee
Or Jesus.
[209:51]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
[209:51]
J.J. Watt
I don't know. Sometimes you need something. Like, you gotta have something. How often does the weight room here get used?
[209:56]
Pat McAfee
Very often in the morning. The boys are in there. Do you chug pre workout?
[210:01]
J.J. Watt
No, I don't do pre workout.
[210:03]
Pat McAfee
Creatine?
[210:04]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, I do creatine. I do post. All my stuff's post.
[210:06]
Darius J. Butler
Right.
[210:06]
J.J. Watt
Creatine, bcas, collagen, tremblone sandwiches. We'd love to see what's possible there. It loves. See what's possible.
[210:15]
Pat McAfee
Why don't you?
[210:16]
J.J. Watt
Because, come on, just turn into a full science project that can go wrong. There's a lot of.
[210:20]
AJ Hawk
I will watch.
[210:21]
J.J. Watt
We talked about those Olympics.
[210:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[210:23]
J.J. Watt
People that want. I will absolutely watch.
[210:24]
AJ Hawk
Oh, the enhanced game.
[210:25]
J.J. Watt
Can't wait to see that.
[210:26]
Pat McAfee
The Super Duper.
[210:27]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
[210:27]
Pat McAfee
When.
[210:27]
AJ Hawk
When's that happen?
[210:28]
J.J. Watt
I think it's just next I see some stuff popping up about it. I saw one guy. That's gonna be awesome.
[210:32]
Pat McAfee
There's been some projections on the amount of muscles that are torn at that particular event. It's going to be more than any event in the history of events. But I'll tell you what, they're going to lay down on line for us. Those shot put balls are going to go further than ever.
[210:44]
J.J. Watt
I can't wait. That's going to be so pumped.
[210:46]
Pat McAfee
That could be you.
[210:47]
J.J. Watt
No.
[210:50]
AJ Hawk
Could be, though. Could be.
[210:52]
Pat McAfee
All right, jh, we appreciate you. Good luck this fall. Thanks for stopping by out of nowhere.
[210:55]
J.J. Watt
Thank you, guys. This is awesome. This is really, really cool. And I also have even more respect for what you guys do on a daily basis. No commercials, everything straight through the entertainment speak for the fans. Thank you very much for the daily entertainment. You guys are great at what you do.
[211:09]
Pat McAfee
Thanks, Jage.
[211:09]
AJ Hawk
You're a good guy. Thank you, J.
[211:11]
Pat McAfee
That was very kind of you to say that about us, Jage. When you run for president or maybe have your run with the WWE at some point.
[211:19]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[211:20]
Pat McAfee
Don't forget about us.
[211:21]
J.J. Watt
I'll fly right over your head, Patty Mack.
[211:24]
Pat McAfee
Thanks, J.
[211:25]
J.J. Watt
Maybe we could tag team.
[211:26]
Pat McAfee
I don't do tag team wrestling, brother.
[211:28]
J.J. Watt
Okay. I don't know how it works anyway. Fake you.
[211:36]
Pat McAfee
You did not need to be doing what you're Doing. I understand what you're trying to do. You're not doing it.
[211:40]
J.J. Watt
I believe it's called a heel. I think it's called a heel. Yeah.
[211:44]
Pat McAfee
That's not.
[211:44]
AJ Hawk
You're not healing. You cross the line, you're working yourself into a shoot.
[211:49]
Pat McAfee
So you're looking for heat as a heel, okay? You're looking for heat as a heel. That's what you want.
[211:53]
J.J. Watt
Not fire.
[211:54]
Pat McAfee
Well, fire would be good. Heat to get. There's levels, there's nuclear heat would be good too. But you're getting go away heat right now, okay? That means they don't even care.
[212:02]
AJ Hawk
Yep. Newspapers up.
[212:04]
J.J. Watt
No, pop. No, no pop.
[212:07]
Pat McAfee
You do know a little bit.
[212:08]
AJ Hawk
You know the business, kid.
[212:09]
Pat McAfee
What's that all about? You've been learning, brother.
[212:11]
AJ Hawk
You talked to Bone for a little too long earlier.
[212:13]
J.J. Watt
It could all be at work, you never know.
[212:15]
AJ Hawk
Oh, look at this guy.
[212:17]
Pat McAfee
Oh, J, what are you trying to do, brother? For shoot?
[212:21]
J.J. Watt
I mean, Wayne said everything. Everything's work. Everything. Every interview, Life is every match, every conversation, anything you've ever seen, it's all the work.
[212:31]
Pat McAfee
Guy still working out. Maybe he is trying to get into the biz.
[212:34]
AJ Hawk
He could.
[212:34]
Pat McAfee
I might know some people if you want to shake some hands. Put on a good front though what you've been doing, not good enough. And let's make sure we're swollen up, not a bag of milk like you talk about. Thanks for coming out.
[212:45]
J.J. Watt
I'll turn the spigot back on.
[212:48]
Pat McAfee
Is that to. I'm not going to talk about it. Is that the science to spick it?
[212:54]
J.J. Watt
No, I did.
[212:56]
Pat McAfee
Why don't we see what you can become? Me?
[212:58]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[212:59]
Pat McAfee
I believe in science. Yeah. Not all of it. Like, there's no. There's stuff. I'm like, no, Jack's like, he, he hasn't worked out. Have you ever not worked out though, J?
[213:08]
AJ Hawk
Like there's no way you ever just haven't lifted for more than a week.
[213:11]
J.J. Watt
No, two, two weeks, maybe three. But no, I think two.
[213:14]
Pat McAfee
Oh my God. So hands down the longest three weeks you didn't work out.
[213:17]
J.J. Watt
I mean, it's hard, you know how? Like, like more than a fort. I mean, no offense, we got a punter on this side. Age. I know. We can talk about it, kid.
[213:24]
Pat McAfee
Miro said that earlier today.
[213:26]
J.J. Watt
But like, I don't know, I. It's. It's a. It's an issue.
[213:28]
Pat McAfee
It's literally all American. Thank you very much.
[213:31]
AJ Hawk
Guy was just in the squared circle with Gunther.
[213:33]
J.J. Watt
The ring.
[213:33]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, they're out toe to toe.
[213:35]
Pat McAfee
But with what you're saying. What you're saying, I think is valid.
[213:37]
J.J. Watt
I saved a load. I had a load management joke when you were talking load management, and I saved it.
[213:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. My entire career is load management.
[213:44]
J.J. Watt
It's beautiful. It's a great save, some of those. But no, like, it's. I don't know. Maybe your experience is different. You clearly look jacked. I don't know why he doesn't get as much as I get.
[213:51]
Pat McAfee
Oh, he does not like you.
[213:53]
Darius J. Butler
No, I'm not.
[213:54]
AJ Hawk
I can't. I'm not big like you. I can't lift this heavy weight. I love this.
[213:57]
J.J. Watt
What are you talking about right now?
[213:59]
Pat McAfee
No, he's flexing like we're doing here, too. Covers it up. DBut's absolutely jacked.
[214:05]
AJ Hawk
Is D can 48 inches. Classic, like, old man workout situation. Motion, you know?
[214:12]
Pat McAfee
No, we don't know.
[214:13]
J.J. Watt
No, we're trying to get to that. If I can look like you and not work out, I love that old dude.
[214:19]
AJ Hawk
Cardio mixed in. Jump off. You know, hit the elliptical hard or.
[214:23]
Pat McAfee
Reverse the climbing hard.
[214:23]
AJ Hawk
Jump off it, you know, hit a couple sets or whatever, get back on.
[214:26]
Darius J. Butler
Bam.
[214:26]
J.J. Watt
So it's hit. So it's just keeping the heart rate high.
[214:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, honestly, it's whatever I want.
[214:32]
AJ Hawk
I like working out by myself. It's like meditation.
[214:34]
Pat McAfee
Now, for those that don't know, we actually have a photo of AJ in the way room.
[214:38]
AJ Hawk
Oh, wow. Not me.
[214:40]
Pat McAfee
That is aj. Hawk. Yeah.
[214:42]
J.J. Watt
No, you look great up.
[214:47]
AJ Hawk
What's your tattoos?
[214:48]
J.J. Watt
It's jdt, Justin, Derek, Trent, me and my brothers. And then the Chinese symbol underneath.
[214:53]
Pat McAfee
China.
[214:54]
J.J. Watt
Yeah. Means. Means family or home. Yeah, I. No, I do not have any direct ties or any.
[215:01]
Pat McAfee
Why'd you pull?
[215:01]
J.J. Watt
Reason to have a Chinese symbol on my spot. It looked cool.
[215:04]
Pat McAfee
Is that sunscreen you put on or what? You put on, baby.
[215:07]
J.J. Watt
Oh, no, that's actually legit sweat. Which Sweat? Yeah.
[215:10]
Pat McAfee
What'd that come from?
[215:14]
J.J. Watt
But, yeah, no, it's. Did it need to go out to the world? No.
[215:20]
Pat McAfee
I'm still proud of it. If I take this photo, I'm putting it out. No doubt.
[215:24]
AJ Hawk
Every morning, you jumping on that box. Look at those tree trunks.
[215:27]
J.J. Watt
Geez. Not that one. That one is. Let's see, 20.
[215:30]
Pat McAfee
We did some box jumps at over. Big Mike. Mike, we did some box jumps the other day. Landing soft is the ultimate flex.
[215:37]
AJ Hawk
Big Mike was getting after it.
[215:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Big Mike had everything in that.
[215:41]
J.J. Watt
That box actually. Was that 60. So I've done 61 before.
[215:44]
Pat McAfee
I've been up there how recent have you been up on top of that?
[215:48]
J.J. Watt
60. I don't do that much anymore.
[215:50]
Pat McAfee
What is 60 inches?
[215:51]
AJ Hawk
5Ft. Yeah.
[215:53]
Pat McAfee
You're box jumping out of that. That.
[215:54]
AJ Hawk
I mean, I did.
[215:55]
Pat McAfee
You're stepping into that.
[215:56]
J.J. Watt
No, no steps.
[215:57]
AJ Hawk
0Oh, so you can dunk.
[215:58]
Pat McAfee
You're jumping on top of a five foot person.
[216:01]
J.J. Watt
Yeah.
[216:02]
Pat McAfee
You can dunk.
[216:03]
J.J. Watt
Yeah, I can dunk.
[216:04]
AJ Hawk
You can definitely dunk.
[216:05]
J.J. Watt
Got a ball.
[216:06]
AJ Hawk
Come on. All right. Come on.
[216:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[216:07]
J.J. Watt
I mean, I've been sitting in a chair for four straight hours.
[216:11]
AJ Hawk
Calisthenics.
[216:11]
Pat McAfee
Wait a minute.
[216:12]
AJ Hawk
You got it.
[216:13]
Pat McAfee
I was flat too. Help you palm it?
[216:17]
AJ Hawk
Can you really just get up there and. He definitely can. Do you watch him move around at tst. Like, he can definitely play still dunk?
[216:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
[216:24]
AJ Hawk
Soccer.
[216:25]
Pat McAfee
Well, I'm talking just how he can move so large.
[216:27]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. 16 inch box jump is very impressive.
[216:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What you. Hey, what you do with the combine? 37 inch.
[216:36]
AJ Hawk
Very impressive. Pretty explosive. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. You can dunk.
[216:40]
Pat McAfee
You can jump a foot and a half. You can dunk. Ladies and gentlemen, how old are you now?
[216:43]
AJ Hawk
Jeez, It's a tough one.
[216:48]
Pat McAfee
36 years old, retired future first ballot hall of Famer JJ Walker will attempt to dunk a basketball.
[216:53]
AJ Hawk
Drop step, straight verse, no steps. This guy's a maniac.
[216:59]
Pat McAfee
If he does this, we will give away 20 cans of corn. Autographed by Ty Schmid.
[217:07]
AJ Hawk
Boom.
[217:16]
Pat McAfee
Wow, that was impressive. You got jacked up. When's the last time you did that?
[217:20]
J.J. Watt
I was a little worried.
[217:22]
AJ Hawk
Damn.
[217:23]
Pat McAfee
That had to feel pretty good.
[217:24]
AJ Hawk
That was easy in jeans.
[217:26]
Pat McAfee
I was deaf. 4 hours just from a standstill. I.
[217:30]
AJ Hawk
Damn.
[217:31]
Pat McAfee
Hey, man, keep your eye out for the Pacers on this run. We don't know if we need you. You know what I mean?
[217:35]
J.J. Watt
I'm an enforcer. I'll be another JJ. We'll be the double JJs.
[217:39]
Pat McAfee
Justin James and James Johnson. People running around south. I don't think so.
[217:44]
J.J. Watt
You guys eliminated the Bucks, though, so I don't know. Those are my guys.
[217:48]
Pat McAfee
That was a matter of fact. That was so long ago. That might as well been two seasons ago, brother.
[217:53]
J.J. Watt
I know, I know. Giannis. Maybe the Houston though, so that could be.
[217:56]
AJ Hawk
That was incredibly impressive.
[217:58]
Pat McAfee
Why don't you play? Yeah. What that was. You're 275.
[218:01]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, but he replay here.
[218:07]
Pat McAfee
How do you feel about your explosion?
[218:09]
J.J. Watt
Not great. Honestly.
[218:10]
AJ Hawk
Oh, dude. Effortless. Yeah.
[218:13]
Pat McAfee
Good. You should try to break the room and. Or the backboard.
[218:16]
AJ Hawk
He almost ripped the whole thing off the wall.
[218:18]
Pat McAfee
Not a lot of people are coming in here dunking. By the way, I don't know how many people have dunked on that particular hoop over there. I think you're potentially the only one.
[218:25]
AJ Hawk
No Bone did like last week.
[218:26]
Pat McAfee
All right, let's get out of here. Let's shout it out here. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're gonna send together team on me. Oh. Oh. Ben's still a put a tweet out.
[218:34]
J.J. Watt
I'm going to do it.
[218:35]
AJ Hawk
Oh.
[218:36]
Pat McAfee
He said we had a good time. All good. All right. Good.
[218:39]
J.J. Watt
I'm on the show. Ben, come on the show.
[218:41]
Pat McAfee
That's JJ.
[218:42]
J.J. Watt
Come on the show.
[218:42]
Pat McAfee
Ben. 275. He's done.
[218:44]
J.J. Watt
I think we would do it.
[218:45]
AJ Hawk
Ben also said he wants you to.
[218:46]
J.J. Watt
Come to the next game. Perfect. Ben, come on the show. Pat'll go to the game. We got a perfect J.
[218:53]
Pat McAfee
You need to. You're really comfortable right now. You just got done doing a big dunk and everything.
[218:57]
J.J. Watt
Yep.
[218:57]
Pat McAfee
This is less than about 24 hours from now. Trying to figure this whole schedule.
[219:01]
J.J. Watt
I'm floating.
[219:01]
Pat McAfee
You are Flo. As you should. You're a beast of a man. Thank you for traveling down here, Master Square Gard. I mean game five, the Eastern Conference Final.
[219:10]
AJ Hawk
The Mecca.
[219:12]
Pat McAfee
20,000. I believe they got.
[219:14]
AJ Hawk
They win. You're going on stage for.
[219:17]
Pat McAfee
Oh.
[219:17]
AJ Hawk
Afterwards they do the stage presentation.
[219:19]
Pat McAfee
Me and Rick Carlisle up there punching him in the shoulder. Rick's going to take that trophy and go. I don't.
[219:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, but Tyrese gets the. The Larry Bird Eastern Conference player of the tournament.
[219:31]
Pat McAfee
I knew that.
[219:32]
AJ Hawk
We don't know.
[219:33]
Pat McAfee
He might not be team on me. AJ Great work today, bud. Good luck in your workout tomorrow morning.
[219:38]
AJ Hawk
Appreciate it.
[219:38]
Pat McAfee
Thank you.
[219:39]
AJ Hawk
You too, J.
[219:40]
Pat McAfee
Safe travels home. Thank you for coming out. You're the man.
[219:42]
J.J. Watt
Thank you for having me.
[219:42]
Pat McAfee
Congrats on a CBS gig, too. That's a big deal. Being the voice of the NFL every single week is a lot of pressure. I think you're gonna do a great job with it.
[219:49]
J.J. Watt
Thank you. I will lean on your gentleman's guidance.
[219:52]
Pat McAfee
We do not need to be part of that.
[219:53]
J.J. Watt
Amen.
[219:55]
Pat McAfee
Amen.
[219:56]
AJ Hawk
Amen.
[219:57]
Pat McAfee
Let's have a great day. Team on three. One, two, three.
[220:00]
AJ Hawk
Team.
[220:00]
Pat McAfee
Goodbye.
[220:22]
AJ Hawk
Calling all fun lovers and memory makers.
[220:24]
Pat McAfee
Texas invites you to cheer from our.
[220:27]
J.J. Watt
Stadiums.
[220:29]
Pat McAfee
And dance like no one is watching. Culture seekers can find the art that truly inspires. And from our shopping hubs to our chic boutiques, fashionistas will never leave empty handed. Texas is an unforgettable experience that's waiting just for you.
[220:47]
J.J. Watt
Visit traveltexas.com and plan your trip today.
[220:51]
Pat McAfee
Let's Texas.