PMS 2.0 1355 - LIVE From Cary, NC at TST with Wayne Gretzky, Johnny Damon, Chris Paul & Clint Dempsey

Summary

The Pat McAfee Show Episode: PMS 2.0 1355 - LIVE From Cary, NC at TST with Wayne Gretzky, Johnny Damon, Chris Paul & Clint Dempsey Release Date: June 5, 2025

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Introduction: A Thrilling Start at TST

Pat McAfee kicks off the episode live from the vibrant Wake Play Soccer Park in Cary, North Carolina, where the excitement of the TST Soccer Tournament (TST) is palpable. With a grand prize of $1,000,000 on the line, Pat highlights the competitive spirit among numerous teams vying for victory. The atmosphere is electric, with legendary soccer figures like Nani and Jeff, alongside NBA star Chris Paul and baseball icon Johnny Damon, present to support their respective teams.

Pat McAfee [00:00]: "Hello beautiful people and welcome to the Wake Play Soccer park in beautiful Cary, North Carolina. The host of TST is here, and our program starts right now."

TST Tournament Highlights and Team Insights

Pat provides an overview of the ongoing matches, emphasizing the strong performance of the Conceifa team, which is undefeated and poised to secure a top seed. The presence of renowned soccer players such as Tyrese Halliburton—referred to as an "absolute weapon"—adds to the tournament's prestige. The camaraderie and competitive edge of the teams are further showcased through enthusiastic interactions among Pat, AJ Hawk, and other team members.

Ty Schmidt [01:48]: "Absolute weapon."

Pat McAfee [02:12]: "We are tighter than ever. Here's Ruggles. He is a problem."

Exclusive Interview with Wayne Gretzky: Insights on the NHL Stanley Cup Finals

A pivotal moment of the episode is the live FaceTime interview with hockey legend Wayne Gretzky. Wayne provides expert commentary on the recent Stanley Cup Finals game between the Edmonton Oilers and the Florida Panthers. He praises Connor McDavid's exceptional skills and underscores the physicality and dedication of both teams.

Wayne Gretzky [12:24]: "There's no question he's the best player in hockey. He's an unselfish young man. He loves playing in Edmonton. He loves being the captain of the Oilers."

Wayne delves into the dynamics of the Finals, highlighting the Oilers' home-ice advantage and the Panthers' tenacity. He discusses the evolving nature of hockey, including the role of physical play and the importance of team chemistry.

Wayne Gretzky [15:38]: "We're copycat leagues, right? Football, basketball, baseball, hockey. Yeah, absolutely."

Johnny Damon Takes the Mic: Baseball and Drip FC

Transitioning from hockey to baseball, Pat welcomes Johnny Damon, a two-time World Series champion, to discuss the parallels between baseball and soccer tournaments. Johnny shares his experiences with Drip FC, his healthy hydration brand, emphasizing the importance of team spirit and resilience despite recent setbacks.

Johnny Damon [39:31]: "I always did. I was always a fan favorite because I learned from Cal Ripken. He signed an autograph for me when I was 10 years old."

Damon also touches on the resurgence of MLB viewership, attributing it to the stellar performances of baseball superstars. The conversation shifts to the controversial topic of Shohei Ohtani considering a dual role as a pitcher and hitter, with Johnny expressing optimism about his potential success.

Johnny Damon [43:39]: "I think he can do it. But stepping back to the mound after taking a year and a half off, it's tough."

Seamus Coleman and Chris Paul Discuss the NBA Finals

Seamus Coleman, a two-time Olympic gold medalist and NBA veteran, joins the show alongside NBA superstar Chris Paul to dissect the NBA Finals between the Oklahoma City Thunder and the Indiana Pacers. They analyze team strategies, defensive tactics, and the impact of player performances on the series' outcome.

Chris Paul [62:50]: "I mean, yeah, I believe that definitely is going to be a competition, but if you're Anthony Richardson, you want every single rep you can possibly get."

Seamus emphasizes the importance of adaptability and mental toughness in high-stakes games, highlighting how the Pacers' fast-paced style poses a significant challenge to their opponents.

Seamus Coleman [73:10]: "Any great team, they want to figure out what their identity is. And that's what the Patriots figured out. And that's what OKC figured out."

Clint Dempsey Launches a New Podcast: The Deuce

Clint Dempsey, one of the greatest U.S. soccer players of all time, announces his new podcast, "The Deuce," in collaboration with the Men in Blazers Media network. He discusses the current state of U.S. soccer, the evolving landscape of the MLS, and the critical need for younger American talent to gain more playing time domestically.

Clint Dempsey [96:56]: "Starting on the seventh, I'm happy to be joining Men in Blazers and the platform they've created."

Dempsey advocates for a balanced approach where American players have the opportunity to develop in both domestic leagues and competitive European environments, ensuring the growth and success of U.S. soccer on the global stage.

Clint Dempsey [104:18]: "I think there's a balance. You can have players that are going to Europe being young and competing at the best clubs, but at the same time, there's some people that got to go the MLS route first."

Live Action and Real-Time Reactions

Throughout the live podcast, Pat and his guests provide real-time updates and reactions to ongoing matches within the TST tournament. Highlights include dramatic goals, strategic play-calling, and intense moments that keep both the live audience and listeners engaged.

Pat McAfee [81:43]: "What are you going to do with it Croy?"

Ty Schmidt [110:54]: "He was working all night."

Conclusion: Celebrating Team Spirit and Future Prospects

As the episode draws to a close, Pat reflects on the day's events, expressing gratitude to all participants and attendees at the Cary venue. He underscores the significance of team chemistry, dedication, and the relentless pursuit of excellence that defines the TST Soccer Tournament and the broader sports landscape.

Pat McAfee [125:56]: "A lot of the boys are getting baptized in soccer here. Getting baptized in soccer here."

Pat encourages listeners to stay connected, tune into upcoming matches, and continue supporting their favorite teams and sports.

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Notable Quotes:

• Pat McAfee [00:00]: "Hello beautiful people and welcome to the Wake Play Soccer park in beautiful Cary, North Carolina."

• Wayne Gretzky [12:24]: "There's no question he's the best player in hockey."

• Johnny Damon [39:31]: "I was always a fan favorite."

• Seamus Coleman [73:10]: "Any great team, they want to figure out what their identity is."

• Clint Dempsey [96:56]: "I'm happy to be joining Men in Blazers and the platform they've created."

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Final Thoughts

This episode of The Pat McAfee Show exemplifies the show's dynamic blend of insider sports expertise, engaging discussions, and entertaining interactions. From the electrifying TST Soccer Tournament to exclusive insights from sports legends Wayne Gretzky, Johnny Damon, and Clint Dempsey, listeners are treated to a comprehensive and lively exploration of the current sports landscape. Whether you're a die-hard fan or a casual observer, this episode offers valuable perspectives and captivating moments that highlight the passion and dedication driving today's top athletes and teams.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello beautiful people and welcome to the Wake Play Soccer park in beautiful Cary, North Carolina. The host of tst. In our program that starts right now, South Carolina is two zero. At this tst, we have a team that is potentially going to win $1,000,000. We aren't the only squad that's hoping to win TST. There are an abundance of teams out here. I just got a jersey from the West Ham United team.

[AJ Hawk]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Go Hammers. They say Dortmund was buying us beers last night. They charged Ty 60 bucks yesterday for those same beers we had last night. Seamus is obviously here. Johnny Damon is here. And the game that is going to be played behind us today. Hope Solo's team is here. Solo FC will be taking on the speedy Turtles as the women's TST kicks off the today as the men's have their last game of the first round today. Now elimination games begin tomorrow and our concave team has punched our ticket. Tonight though, we play Wrexham. We're trying to get a number one seed so that we can take on a bum ass number three seed from another group as we can continue to move on in this electrifying tst. If you've never been, I would recommend you come. If you're not a soccer fan, this is style of soccer I think you would enjoy. If you. And if you are a soccer fan, there are legends walking all over the place around here. Nani's here, obviously. How about Ledesma? Who's on our team? Jeff, Cameron, Brek, Shea. You're talking about legends everywhere. Tony Miola is just strolling around. The soccer community is represented in a beautiful way. And Conceifa is being very, very, very dominant. We got this guy right here.

[Ty Schmidt]

Absolute weapon.

[Pat McAfee]

Absolute west filthy. He played for Cincinnati last year against us and he was doing not that great of a team. That was Chad Johnson's team, do you remember? Not that good of a team. But he was a weapon. So we reached out and said, hey bud, we'd love for you to join our squad. He's got along with everybody. There's Derek Huffman. He's an Arena League star. There is just an entire squad. We're tighter than ever. Here's Ruggles. He is a problem. Yeah, Ruggles is a problem.

[AJ Hawk]

The porch run on the steamer.

[Johnny Damon]

Goal.

[Pat McAfee]

Back porch. Chad Porch. Absolutely incredible. He tried to give me a goal yesterday. I put it into the woods going 100% on me.

[Boston Connor]

Not the worst miss.

[Pat McAfee]

There's porch right there winning the game. Foss with the pass to me. Pass to Richie Costanzo. Kid I grew up playing soccer with as a high schooler. Back to me over to Fossil. Good save, great save, great save. Soon as I put that ball down the line right there, I think to myself, oh no, now I gotta run. Which I did. Back to Foss Str. Mike Foss, senior Vice President, ESPN General Manager of this Conceifa team. A man who's put the entire squad together. He and I had an opportunity to create some magic with Richie Costanzo. It was not to be had. I would then blast the ball over the net so far just about 25 seconds later and in about a minute and 15 I got to the point of exhaustion where I almost vomited out there and was a part of three or four here's porch maybe the best player in the whole tournament. You dawn exit stadium. Great boot place would have won bananas. It has been fun down here. But it's not just Conceifa and TST that has been electrifying. The NHL Stanley Cup Finals started last night. With that being said, we have Wayne Gretzky joining us in about 12 minutes or so on FaceTime. He is not in North Carolina. He was in Edmonton last night. The greatest hockey player of all time, the Great One joins us last night after the second period, in the second intermission, he actually called exactly what Connor McDavid needed to do. He said this Florida Panthers defense is playing a Rick Talkett style. Conner needs to get the puck on his stick, he needs to go behind the net, then he needs to find somebody. Third period, same exact thing happens. Then they go to overtime. McJesus does his thing, dry saddle knocks home a winner and the oilers are up 1 0. We will go through all these highlights. We will chit chat about this game and whenever you talk about the Stanley cup finals, you think of electricity. Last night, game one lived up to the hope, almost had a double overtime. Stanley Cup Final, Game one in a rematch between two teams that are clearly the best in the NHL. We'll see what Wayne Gretzky has to say. And then tonight the NBA Finals start in Oklahoma City with the Thunder being a 9 1/2 point favorite over the great gritty, tough Indiana Pacer team. Now this graphic is filthy. Deebone was in his bag, I believe is what people would say whenever you talk about not utilizing the luxury cap. It's like the first time two teams in a final since 2004 haven't spent over what the salary cap is, haven't bought their team. These are two teams that have been built in similar fashion. Second time in NBA Finals history that both teams had 25 or fewer wins three years ago. These teams have built from the bottom, come all the way up to the top. They play together and it should be electrifying, just like the NHL Finals. We're lucky to be talking about all of that. We have Johnny Damon on the show today. Obviously his team, Drip fc had a big win yesterday and last night he texted me and told me the fans have got on his side. He said they're booing the refs, cheering for his team. I can't wait to chit chat with baseball legend Johnny Damon, especially with the MLB viewership up as much as it is. We'll also be joined by Chris Paul. Chris Paul, obviously local dog from down here in North Carolina, Wake Forest legend, which is right down the street, partial owner of tst. We'll ask him about the NBA Finals. And then we have Clint Dempsey, one of the greatest soccer players in the history of the United States, joining us in the second hour as well. He's launching a new podcast.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, don't, don't give too much away. Okay.

[Boston Connor]

Good tease, good tease.

[Pat McAfee]

One half of the hammer done Cowboys AP tone is here. Tone, as you look at last night, did we expect an overtime game? Did we expect that many goals? And when we're looking ahead to this evening, what is the bet or pocketbooks need to be yearning for as solo FC in the speedy turtles start right behind us.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, when you look at last night at the line and as far as the book is concerned, it was minus 120 for the Oilers, which is basically if you don't know, betting is a coin flip for the game. So you know, as far as the game goes, going to overtime, not a huge surprise. I think the, the expectation for this series was to be a super close series. As far as the goals were were scored 3, 3 at the end of the OT. I believe the over under was 6 and a half. So it was right on point there. So as far as the bookmakers go, it went exactly how they thought that was. And then it's tonight. NBA Finals nine and a half for the Thunder is, is an absolute huge spread as far as the NBA Finals is concerned. Thunder are minus 700 to win the series. But let's not forget Pacers, they go into Cleveland game one of of this year. M down nine and a half. It was same for the series minus 700 against the Cavs. And they won game one, obviously won game two, won the series. So the Pacers are not, you know, they're not ashamed to be a minus nine and a half. They are not afraid to win. Down nine and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

Now they're born. Yeah. Being a nine and a half point underdog this year. Especially with how they've been talked about or lack of conversation about them. I mean, anytime a poll comes out and says, hey, you're superstar, most overrated guy. Yeah, tough. Anytime you're not put on national television even though it's the playoffs, they had them on TruTV. They played iRobot over the Pacers in the Cleveland Cavaliers in the playoffs this year. That was the number one seed in the Eastern Conference. Cleveland Cavaliers had to feel disrespected. The Indiana Pacers are just sitting there going, what about us? What about us? What about them? They've become inevitable. Let me give you some stats here. This from Hembo. Shout out to himbo. Shut up. No team has ever shot 55% from two in 40% from three in a single postseason. Entering the finals, the pacers are at 56% from 2, 40% from 3.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

As an offensive juggernaut, Tyrese Halliburton has scored 11 points in 135 career half court matchups with Lou Dort as his primary defender. That's not good. No.

[Boston Connor]

Lose a player.

[Pat McAfee]

The Dorture Chamber is what they call Lou Dort. And Q Rich, I believe, said he'll be fascinated to see who Dejano puts Lou Dort on Pascal or will you go on Tyrese? Because basically whoever he decides to take out of the game. This is Revis Island. This is See you later. You're done for the series. In the last 40 years, Tyrese Halliburton is the only player to do both in a single postseason. 150 assists. Five times more assists than turnovers. He has 156 assists, 31 turnovers.

[AJ Hawk]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody's ever done it. We'll talk to Chris Paul about that here in a matter of moments. Turnovers this postseason, The Thunder have 188. Their opponents have 288. That minus 100 margin is already 21 more than any team ever in the history of a postseason. So you're talking about a dominant defense in this Oklahoma City Thunder, but they also take over on the offensive side. It should be a great game. Speaking of great games, Solo FC and the speedy Turtles are getting after it behind us. Beautiful setup here. The toxic tables here at Bossy Connor at Ty Schmidt. Ty, I see the Tyrese Halberton shirt on. Is that a homage to what's going to come tonight or just public support?

[Ty Schmidt]

I think a. Well, see, I don't know if they're gonna, I don't know if Oklahoma City's gonna choke, but you could say quite a bit of public support. You mentioned it. I mean they did this with the Knicks and Pacer series, everyone picking the Knicks. Hey, there's no way the Pacers can win. They did it with the Cav series and the Pacers just keep winning. And then will and behold, we get to the finals and it's the same thing. Hey, why are we even playing? You know, Oklahoma City is going to beat the hell out of these guys. They have no chance. All their players need to play perfectly, have the game of their lives. So the Pacers are battle tested. They're ready to go. They understand, they've been through, you know, this song and dance the last several rounds. So yeah, I'm very excited for tonight. Coming off an unbelievable Stanley cup finals game last night, sports. Exactly. We're, we're, we're in it now, boys.

[Pat McAfee]

PST happening. Exactly.

[Ty Schmidt]

We got hope solo in between the pipes behind us right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Sports are happening in a big way. Way. Let's go to college football. National champion, super bowl champion Ryder cup winner, all time leading tackler for the Green Bay packers, father of 10, AJ Hawk. Great to see you. AJ's people of North Carolina give you a resounding applause of approval. Obviously. What have been your thoughts on what sports are doing right now tonight? Do you think it's going to be a nine and a half point spread game last night? Did you expect overtime? Tst? Did you expect it to be this electrifying? Where's AJ Hawk's brain on sports?

[Chris Paul]

I'm at tst. So first off, tst, the Concave boys are playing well. I don't see how anyone scores on. You guys are still have not given up a goal yet this game. The defense is off the charts, the goalies are standing on their heads. But hockey last night, are you kidding me? From the jump we had goals and then we had answers. So me being somewhat of a casual hockey fan, I was, I loved it. I was locked in all three quarters and overtime last night.

[Pat McAfee]

Three periods. Three periods. Yeah. Three quarters. It was actually four. Yeah, it was, it was. Joining us now is a man who played four quarters of hockey a lot. Yes. A guy, nine time mvp. I want to make sure I get these. All right. Four time Stanley cup champion. A man who at the time of his retirement held 61 NHL records. Now he's on TV. He's not a hater. He's not jaded with the new group. Loves the sport, loves the players, loves the league. Ladies and gentlemen, the great one, Wayne Gretzky.

[Wayne Gretzky]

How's everyone doing?

[Pat McAfee]

Wayne, it is an honor to have you on the show. Now, the people of North Carolina so.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Happy to be on it today, and what a great sports day. You guys got it right?

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, Wayne, I'm happy to hear that. I just want to let you know, though, that we are very thankful that you made time out of your life to join us. We're massive hockey fans, and the fact that you're taking time out of your life to chitchat with us, we are grateful. Let's get to last night's game. You know, after the second period, you got on air and we assume this has happened on plenty of occasions this year and last year when you're on television, but you say, hey, McDavid needs to get the puck on his stick, needs to go around the net, then he needs to find somebody. This Rick Talkett defense has obviously been a little bit cagey. That's then next period, he does that. Do you think that whenever you see McDavid play, you see a lot of yourself? Do you think whenever you watch McDavid play, do you think like, man, this guy has the capability to take it over? What are your thoughts with Conor McDavid being the guy that everybody talks about, could be the next great one?

[Wayne Gretzky]

WAYNE O. Yeah, I think we're past could it be. There's no question he's the best player in hockey. He's an unselfish young man. He loves playing in Edmonton. He loves being the captain of the Oilers. He wants desperately to win a Stanley Cup. That's all he wants. That's what he cares about the most right now. And good, good on him. He's just been great for our game. He's been great for the city of Edmonton. And you know what a year. He scored the winning goal at the four nations cup in overtime. He sets up the goal last night by draisaitl. And let me tell you, I know it's a little bit difficult to see on tv, but live, it was a physical hockey game. You had to be a man to play in that game. Last night, both teams played hearts out. Tachuk's playing a little bit injured. Reinhardt's playing a little bit injured, but they still put everything on the line. And listen, it's hard to knock off the Stanley cup champions. It's one game. It's four to seven. I'm sure they're going to bounce back, but Edmonton has to keep home court advantage. That's a must for the Edmonton Oilers to win the Stanley Cup.

[Pat McAfee]

Obviously you played nine years, I think eight years for the Edmonton Oilers at the beginning. 10. 10. Sorry, Jason.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I had one year in the WHA where I started in Indianapolis and we were drawing 3,000 people a game, so they sold me.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, we're thankful that you started your hockey career in Indianapolis, Indiana. We should put that on a statue. Probably a statue of you there. But Edmonton. All anybody talks about is how great the fans are, how great the barn is up there. But obviously no Canadian franchise has won the Stanley cup in forever. Is this the team to do it? And if so, why do you think that is the case?

[Wayne Gretzky]

Well, this is the team to do it. One, I don't think Florida's played a team that's as physical as Edmonton. The speed of Edmonton matches Carolina, but Edmonton's a little more physical. And when you get to three championship series in a row, you're physically beat up. And right now I hope Florida can rebound. But they put their guts on the line the last three years and it's hard to get to the Stanley cup finals and they play hard and they're led by guys like Tachuk and Barkov and Reinhardt. I expect them to bounce back. But listen, Edmonton feels it. The city. That's all anybody talks about. I was beside the arena yesterday and at 12 o' clock noon a band started playing. I thought it was on Columbus street in Manhattan for Labor Day parade or something. It's crazy, but love it.

[Pat McAfee]

I love the shots outside the arena. Yeah. Like that feels like that happens in hockey more than any other sport.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And it is. The entire city shows up there. Let's talk about that Florida team before the boys have some questions for the great one. You mentioned all the leaders of that team and obviously they make the trade for Marshy. And I know back in the day there used to be goons on teams. Okay, There used to be goons. There's always been some, you know. Yeah. Little protectors. But there's always been a little greasy things that have happened in hockey. Then goons come in there. How do you feel about the Florida Panthers culture being like, hey, we're going to hit you, there's going to be some shit and you just know that that's happening. Do you think that is the right style to. Obviously it is, but do you think that is sustainable? And do you think more teams are going to try to Be like the Florida Panthers.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Absolutely. We're copycat leagues, right? Football, basketball, baseball, hockey. Yeah, absolutely. And I will tell you this, last year, Florida was a little bit more physical in that series than Edmonton. Edmonton went out this year. They got a little bit bigger, they're more physical than they were last year. And they got the key ingredient. They got number 97. He can be the difference maker. But listen, in the old days, we had those protectors. Right now, the TV is the protection for the players. Used to be able to get guys behind the camera or behind the scenes and nobody would see it. Now there's so many camera angles. The league protects the players now, and that's how it's done.

[Pat McAfee]

I like it, too. And I like the fact that Batman came out and was like, we just don't want this stage fighting. We're okay with fighting. We're not trying to get rid of what hockey is. We just don't want the staged fighting. So I think the game's evolving and obviously numbers are up. Last year, the NHL viewership was bigger than it's ever been. I assume it's only going to continue because the superstars are playing so well. A.J. hawk has a question for you. Wayne.

[Chris Paul]

Oh, yeah, Wayne, did you. We see all these analytics and different things that teams have to where they can give you these shot charts on how goalies can.

[Pat McAfee]

Can.

[Chris Paul]

Whatever I guess they do well, whatever they stop, whatever they can't. When you play, did you have a book on goalies? Did you have an idea going in on what this guy was going to do and how you were going to beat him?

[Wayne Gretzky]

Yeah, I think everyone has that sort of feeling and belief that the more you study and the more you prepare, the better off you're going to be. But let me tell you this. The game is so fast, you can't tell me that a guy knew exactly where he was shooting the puck because I couldn't shoot it exactly where I wanted to because the game's so fast. And listen, you know, I heard you guys talking at the beginning of the show. The game is better today. These players, these athletes are better athletes. They're bigger. The equipment's better. The ice that they play on is better. So our game is just getting better each and every year. And you look at guys like Barkov and McDavid and Drysilo Reinhardt, these guys are tremendous athletes. They're superstars. I mean, they're great people. They sell the game. They worry about our sport. They want to excel. And listen, I live in Florida. What The Panthers have done Vinnie Viola, Bill Zito, their organization, Paul Maurice. What they've done for hockey in Florida has just been truly amazing. And on top of that, you look at Tampa Bay with John Cooper and his group winning Stanley Cups. Hockey is growing leaps and browns in Florida and that was our problem over the last 50 years. We were good in pockets, but now we're growing in Texas, California, Nevada, Florida, and our game is expanding and kids are going to games saying, you know what, I want to try to play this game. It looks like it's fun and we're getting better athletes every year that are participating in playing hockey.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't you think too the fact that you guys are still like an old school style league? Like we just talked about the fighting there?

[Wayne Gretzky]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Very rarely 2025, unless it's UFC, boxing or slap fest. Is anybody like, yeah, you should go fight somebody. But in hockey it's like a part of the sport. It's like a self government sport. I appreciate that.

[Wayne Gretzky]

And I'll tell you one of the reasons why that's the case. We're the one sport that carries around a lethal weapon, the hockey stick. And the last thing you want to do is hit somebody with your stick. So the natural thing is to drop your stick and drop your gloves. Right. And so if we didn't have fighting, there'd be a lot more stick work. And I'm glad they're. Listen, I always say to people, when they say to me, is fighting real in hockey? I said, well, if it wasn't, I would have been in more fights. Trust me, it's real. And these guys are tough and they're hard nosed and listen, they just want to win championships and take. You can't take silly penalties though, you know, you got to be smart when you do it and consequently if you're not, you know you're going to penalize your hockey team.

[Pat McAfee]

Hockey is such a humble culture. You know, very rarely do you hear any players speak out. Very rarely do you get to hear any interviews or personality. I think that's kind of growing now with the way you guys have been able to open folks up. You biz, the TNT crew, obviously spitting chicklets is doing a great job. I think we're learning more about the players, but all the players are team first guys, tough guys. And the sport is so hard. I think everybody has to respect the work ethic. I think it's. Hockey's only on the precipice of a massive like because I think there's a lot of football fans that be like, we like the way these guys operate. They just got to get exposed to the sport. You know what I mean, Wayne?

[Wayne Gretzky]

Yeah. When I first went to L. A, I said, the more people that we can have come and see the sport and realize the art of our sport, it's physical, it's fast. You gotta skate, you gotta be unselfish, you gotta play hard, you gotta take a hit, give a hit. And the more people we can get to view our sport, the faster and bigger it's gonna grow. And that's what the league has done. And so when I came in, I was so lucky. We had Brett hall in St. Louis and Yzerman in Detroit, Mario Lemieux in Pittsburgh, Mark Messi in New York. Not only were they elite players and hall of Famers, they knew what it took to sell the sport. They were great with the media, they were great with charities, great with kids, and they were unreal hockey players. So we've been lucky, we've been blessed that the people in our sport, from Gordie Howe and Bobby Orr and Bobby Clark all the way down to now, Crosby and Ovechkin, just two of the classiest sports athletes there are in the history of any sport. And so we're lucky we got good culture in our game.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, let's talk about that culture a little bit more. And you just mentioned all the heroes of the past and obviously the future and who's going to carry it. You've never sounded jaded ever about the next generation. You've never been a goat in everybody's eyes, that has kind of weaponized that against the younger generation. Why is that? Is that just how hockey is? Like you showing up for Ovechkin? I think you said something about your dad told you, hey, when somebody breaks your record, you should be the first person at this. You were. You went to two games. You've never said anything bad about anybody. Sidney Crosby comes in, they're saying, hey, this could be the next Wayne Gretzky. You never took that as a shot. Seemingly. Always supported it. Now with Connor McDavid, the same thing. Why is that? And why do you think it's so hard for some goats to kind of have a similar mindset?

[Wayne Gretzky]

I don't know. I can't speak for other guys, but I'm really being honest. I think our athletes today are better in every sport. There's no question. Now, do I think Michael Jordan was the greatest basketball player ever lived? It's my opinion. I'm not a basketball guru, but that's Just my opinion, right? Then you take Tiger woods, you know, probably the best athlete we've ever seen in golf. So it's progression, right? And listen, these guys today, knowledge is such a great thing. Remember those old commercials about I lost my knowledge. We have so much more knowledge today just from physical fitness, nutrition practice, coaching. The equipment. The equipment they wear today, the skates that they wear today, when we wore skates, they were leather and if they got Wet, they were 5 to 10 pounds heavier. It's not the same game. It's a better game today. Simple as that. And so I'm happy for them. Everything I have in my life is because of the NHL and hockey. Why would I sit down and want to be critical of the game that made my life? I got to travel the world, meet some great people. It's the greatest sport in the world to me and I love it.

[Pat McAfee]

You're the greatest. You are the greatest. You guys had actual cement in your boots whenever those leather. Yeah. You had actual.

[Wayne Gretzky]

No, no. We would play on a Sunday night in Chicago, 6am we'd be at the airport for a flight to Detroit, play that night in Detroit, but our equipment would still be wet because the trainers couldn't really hang it. So you put your skates on at 7 o' clock at night and they're about 10 pounds heavier. That's the way it was though.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys also, if, and I don't know you, I don't think I've heard any stories about you. But if I know the hockey culture well, in between that Chicago and Detroit game, we also have to hammer some vodkas and some beers as well for team chemistry. Feels like that is a big thing in hockey. You guys are very much a hangout together group.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Yeah, we're always together. I mean, especially when, when you're playing, you know, it's 20 guys and you go to dinner together, the teams that do that are more successful. The teams that four guys go one place and three guys go another place, they're not a team. It's. You look at the Edmonton guys, they're always together. You look at the Florida group, they're together. Tampa Bay, those teams are year after year successful. There's no secret to why it is. They'll go through a wall for each other and you got to have that in our sport.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I agree. I think teams come together better around a keg than they do Kale, but who knows if the next generation will continue that on. Got to have team chemistry. It's the biggest deal. Boston Bruins fan Who has quit on them. I want to let you know that Connor has a question for you. That's not true.

[Boston Connor]

Congratulations to Marco Stern, new head coach for the Boston Bruins. And I mean great job. He's going to do a great job. Wayne already mentioned Bobby or is one of building blocks of the NHL. So he gets it. Wayne, there's a clip and you talked about, you know, kind of the growing. The growth of the game and obviously they did the 247 series on HBO before they followed a bunch of guys last year with Amazon, I believe. I think if kind of the more layman fan were to be able to see hockey players like yourself go up against other superstars, it might help we have a clip of you just dusting. I believe Sugar Ray Leonard Pele might. Might have been out there and attract me and I. I think most people aren't really sure that hockey players are athletes.

[Pat McAfee]

Then they off there.

[Boston Connor]

Wayne, holy shit. Wayne Grass. He might beat Usain Bolton in 100 meter. Do you think how did this first of all happen? And do you think most hockey players are fantastic athletes, but people don't really think about that and they just think lucky and everything. Sidney Crosby threw a football for a million dollars that big night at in back in April for Pat. And I feel like most people were blown away that a hockey player could even get their hands around a football.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Well, let me say this. First of all, it was a charity event for bjorn Borg in 1982 and he asked me to go. And of course I was a huge Bjorn Borg fan. And I said of course. Now there were six events. The other five I came last, let me tell you. And I remember he said to my dad, he was there with me. I said, I got to do well in the running because I grew up a runner. I said I got to at least show that I'm somewhat of an athlete. So I said okay. And then I looked down and I saw Sugar Ray Leonard and Pele and I'm like, oh my God, I'm in the wrong event here. I think I jumped before even that gun went off. I was going no matter what. But it was a wonderful event. But let me tell you, most hockey Europeans are the Russians. But in North America, a lot of our kids that grew up playing box lacrosse, soccer, baseball, and then they make hockey their priority at the age of 14, 15, 16. So there is a lot of great athletes who play in the National Hockey League, trust me, a lot of them. I see guys that go to batting practice and guys are hitting home runs whether it's in Detroit or Anaheim. It's pretty remarkable. And of course we got so many guys that are good golfers. Everybody. Every time I play golf and my son in law is one of the greatest players ever in two major winner and people go, what's wrong with you? How come you're not a good golfer?

[Pat McAfee]

Do you suck at golf lane? No way.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Oh, I'm not very good. So I would tell you this.

[Pat McAfee]

Compared to Dustin. Hold on though. Compared to Dustin or like compared to you?

[Wayne Gretzky]

Compared to you, I'm bad.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I'm ass. Wayne. I am a bad golfer.

[Wayne Gretzky]

So I always tell people, they go, what hand did you shoot in hockey? I said, left handed and play golf right handed. How come you play right handed? I said, well, at 16, I went to buy a set of golf clubs. My dad said, you know, you should learn how to golf. The hockey players have charity events and you don't want to embarrass yourself. So I went to buy a set of clubs and the guy said, we only sell right handed clubs. They didn't sell left handed clubs in those days in Canada. So somebody said, well, why don't you switch? And I said, well, I got all these free clubs, I'm not switching over to left handed.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you ever?

[Wayne Gretzky]

So no, no. But it all changed when Phil Mickelson came along and Mike Weir, I don't know if you saw this, but Mike Weir, when he won the Masters, he had a handwritten letter from Jack Nicklaus that he wrote to Jack Nicklaus and said, I'm a left handed kid, I play left handed. Should I stay left handed or switch to right? And Jack Nicklaus wrote him back, handwritten, young man, you stay left handed if that's what you're comfortable with. And he became the first Canadian to win a major, which was remarkable.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's talk about that. You, you still golf righty?

[Wayne Gretzky]

Yeah, I'm, and I'm still bad.

[Pat McAfee]

Wayne, I think I know the problem. I, I, I, I think you're supposed to be looking this way. I think, I think you're supposed to be looking this way, brother. Not even a putt, not even putting. Feels like that is.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I tried putting left handed for two years because Mike said to me, wayne, try putting left handed. Well, I got worse every day. So I said, I'm going back right handed.

[Pat McAfee]

Golf is so hard, dude, you gotta.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Practice like any other sport. You gotta practice. I don't practice. How do you expect to be good people go, are you competitive golf? Michael Jordan's so competitive. I Said competitive. I know I'm no good, so why worry about it? If I hit a bad shot, I hit a bad shot.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And then I'll pick it up.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I'm going golfing with Darren Pang today here in Edmonton, so it'll be fun.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, you're gonna go. I think you're gonna go scratch today, Wayne. Yeah. Real low. Yeah, I think you're gonna go real low.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Hanger's about 5 foot 6 and 125 pounds, and he shoots.

[Pat McAfee]

He's doing a lot of golfing, though. Just like. We don't get to practice enough. Wayne, we're working.

[Wayne Gretzky]

There you go.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we don't have time. Just be on the golf. You should play lefty today.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I'm gonna try a few shots left handed today.

[Pat McAfee]

If we get that on camera, we'd appreciate it because everything I know about.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Sports, I'll get Biz to tape it and send it to you guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Perfect. Perfect. That feels. Because it feels like you should be a left. Wayne. I don't even. I don't want to say anything disparaging about you.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I'm. I'm glad. This is my problem. I'm reaching out for you. To you. For golf tips.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo. Bingo. If I was Wayne Gretzky, though, I go left. I mean, I'm. Look, I'm doing. Aren't you doing this? Is this like your thing? This is literally.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I played pebble for five years with Jake Owen, myself, Jordan Spieth and Dustin. I had the greatest group. They're Jordan and Dustin and Jake. So wonderful to me, but they draw the biggest crowd, those two guys. There's 25,000 people on every hole, and I'm shaking like a leaf. And they go, you didn't get nervous playing hockey? I said, I could play hockey in front of a million people, I wouldn't even know they were there. But to play golf, you know how it is when you go to the first tee and everybody's in the clubhouse watching you.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Wayne Gretzky]

And you're like, oh, I don't want to hit a bad shot. Well, try to have 25,000 people down the fairways and you're hitting the ball.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm telling you, Wayne, you go left me.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I think I have a record for the most people hit in playing in pro am tournaments. I played with President Ford one time in 1980. I was a kid, Palm Desert, and I was so nervous standing on the tee, right? First shot I hit, I slice it into these trees. And all of a sudden we heard a thud. And I go, what's that. And President said, that's one of my Secret Service guys. I hit them.

[Pat McAfee]

Ah, that is amazing. I love to hear that you love the game of golf and suck at it, because I do, too. So if Wayne Gretzky sticks at it, that makes me feel a lot better about myself.

[Wayne Gretzky]

My wife Janet is a great athlete. She's a better golfer than I am, and she's more committed to it there a lot. And yeah, she's. She loves it and she. Trust me, she's a better. If. If you're playing partners, you would take her, not me.

[Pat McAfee]

No. We're gonna have some beers with Wayne Gretzky and we're not trying to win. I stink it golf. You gotta remember that you just talked about how people say, hey, are you competitive at golf? Michael Jordan's competitive at golf. You rattled off a couple others earlier. Tiger Woods, I assume we could put Phelps into that conversation. In Sports World. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. I don't know who you put it. Do you guys have a group text? Because you guys are like rare air.

[Wayne Gretzky]

No, but Michael and I played in this charity event for TNT last year, and we were both so nervous on the first hole. You'd think we'd never been in any kind of a sporting event ever before. We were so nervous.

[Pat McAfee]

So what do you guys like? Why do you think? Have you ever done any. This could be a deep question way. I know, coming straight off of you sucking a golf combo. Do you have you looked back and wondered why you were so much better than everybody else?

[Wayne Gretzky]

Because I saw I wasn't better than everyone else. But I'll tell you what, I did my preparation and I had respect for every player I played with, and I had respect for every player I played against. And I have nothing but good, good thoughts. You know the guys I played with, guys like Mark Messier and Paul Coffey and Luke Robitaille, Brad hall, incredible people. And then I played against guys like Brian Trache and Dennis Potman, who played physically hard and they were hard to play against. But when it's all said and done, we're all here for the same reason. We love the game. And that's what it's all about, right? And you're here to try to win championships and practice is everything. And if I tell parents, I get people come up to me and they'll say, will you tell my son how many hours a day you used to practice at? 9 and 10, 11. And I would say, listen, I didn't practice. That's what I loved doing. I'D skate for eight hours because I loved it. Bobby Orr, same thing. Gordie Howe, same thing. We didn't think we were practicing. If you think that at the age of 10, you're gonna have a long, miserable run of it. Right. So I always say, listen, just go enjoy the sport. And the more you enjoy it, the more you want to get better and the more you're gonna want to love it. And that's the way I look at it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Cause if you're considering it, practice, it's. It's almost like it's work. And if you're viewing it as work already as a child, as opposed to just something you want to spend your time doing, you're probably not going to sign up for it for the long haul that you're going to need.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Yeah. Mark Messi had one of the great quotes years ago. Somebody asked him, is there anything about hockey that you don't like? And he thought about it for a second. He goes, there's not one thing I don't like about it. I love being with the guys. I love being on the bus with the guys. I love hanging out with the guys. I love going to hard practices. I love going to great practices. I loved it when we lost, had a tough loss, and we're all together. There wasn't one thing that we didn't love about it. Right. And that's makes it special.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That's what it's about. That is what it's about. That's what it's about.

[Wayne Gretzky]

My wife always says, I say sorry. Wrong.

[Pat McAfee]

So Ty has a question for you. Great one. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Wayne, speaking of, you know, golf and everything like that, there's been a lot of discussion lately, mostly from, you know, biz. He kind of started about how a lot of these teams who are in states with no state income tax are going to have a massive advantage moving forward. Because not only are a lot of them warm weather and guys can go there and play golf and kind of enjoy themselves, but you're obviously not forfeiting a bunch of that money like, you know, some of the places in Canada or California or New York or wherever the case may be. Do you think a lot of those teams that are in those situations are going to be inherently better or have an advantage moving forward over the next couple years?

[Wayne Gretzky]

Well, let me say two things. Obviously, Florida and Tampa Bay is a unique situation. Dallas, Vegas, from a financial point of view, if that's what a player's thinking about, obviously. But if a player's thinking, you know, what I want to play in a hockey culture, like playing and living in the city of Edmonton. I loved it for 10 years I was here and the culture and the mindset of the people. So it's a different feeling when you leave the arena in Florida after a game or leave the arena in Tampa Bay, but you leave the arena in Edmonton, you know you've been in a hockey game and you know there's 1.5 million people who live here and 1.3 million have watched that game and the other 200,000, the only reason they didn't is because they're working. So, you know, it's what you want to do as a player. How you, how you want to approach this. Look, do I want to go to where everything is hockey or do I want to go to a place where financially it might be a little bit better for me? Now, the good news is Tampa Bay and Florida are great organizations and they have a chance to win every year. So that's a business decision that a player has to make.

[Pat McAfee]

Wayne O. Is Florida going to be the state of hockey forever?

[Wayne Gretzky]

Oh, absolutely. It's growing leaps and bounds. I'm so proud of people who done such a great job. The Tampa Bay organization, Florida, more and more kids are playing. I see it. I live there, so I see it. And it's just going to grow leaps and bounds. I think it's going to get bigger every single year. And the thing is, now we're attracting great American athletes into our sport where the guys that used to say I'm a baseball player or a football player, a lot of those great athletes at 10, 11, 12 now are going, you know, I really enjoy playing hockey. This is great.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And I'm going to be a lefty on the ice and then I'm going to golf. Righty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Wayne Gretzky]

You'll buy left hand at clubs now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Hey, thank you so much. Watching for the time and thank you.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Thank you guys so much and keep going. And love the fact you guys promote hockey. Like I said, everything I have in my life is because of hockey. So congratulations to you all and have a great day.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, thank you so much for that, for being kind, being a professional, being the great one. But also thank you for doing television as the goat. I think there's a chance that because you did that, now Michael Jordan's getting into tv.

[Wayne Gretzky]

It's good.

[Pat McAfee]

It's good to hear. It's good to hear from the goats. Legit.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I don't know. I don't know if you saw it last Night. But the guys were calling me goat. And right now we're calling biz gout because he's got goat.

[Pat McAfee]

You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. That is what it's about. And I'm sorry to everybody else that does the hockey. If one panel has Wayne Gretzky on it, they're probably going to have a little bit of a head start.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Start.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That's just like when Nick Saban was at the college game day. It's like sorry to anybody else. Doing sorry. Doing anything else. It's like Nick Saban's words are going to matter. And if you're good at it and if you're like humble and you enjoy the process of doing television and talk about your sport, you can give back to your sport in such a big way, which I think is what Wayne has done over the last few years. Being on tv. Having Wayne Gretzky promote the game is great for the game. You know, some of these goats stay away for whatever reason. They're either jaded and I talked to him about hating the younger generation or not liking the current game or maybe people are getting compared to them so they get a little self conscious on what they're about. It's like he doesn't seem to care at all. And everybody has the same opinion about him. It's good for hockey. He's doing tv.

[Chris Paul]

It's unbelievable hockey. You couldn't have a better ambassador for the game. I mean, the great one, the greatest of all time. And the fact that he says the game is better now than it was when I played. The athletes are better.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Like, yeah.

[Chris Paul]

What a. Hopefully Michael Jordan becomes the Wayne Gretzky of basketball broadcasting. We're all of a sudden here. He gives us that perspective.

[Pat McAfee]

I believe Solo FC is up 2 zip behind us. Hope Solo played the first half in goal. She pitched a shutout. Her team can run.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I was watching.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Her team can move. Yeah. Solo FC is a good squad. Austin Rise is here. I think they have a lot of really good players. The U.S. women's National Team has a team team. They have Carly Lloyd.

[Clint Dempsey]

Okay.

[Boston Connor]

They won last year.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Yeah, they are very good. So I think there's a lot of good quality soccer coming out of here at carry. There are some teams that are ass. Yeah. Certainly some teams that are ass. That's going to happen.

[Boston Connor]

Played two of them so far.

[Pat McAfee]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. We made it look that way. We made him look that way.

[Boston Connor]

That's what I mean.

[Pat McAfee]

Joining us now is a man who put a team Together. That is not as. No, no, they are great. Just like this man was. I want to rattle off all of his two time World Series champion. First on this particular sheet says Boston Red Sox legend.

[Boston Connor]

Well, of course.

[Pat McAfee]

But there are also people who say he is a New York Yankees legend. Oh, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

And also a Kansas City Royals legend. And also an Oakland A's legend. And also a Detroit Tigers legend.

[Pat McAfee]

And also a.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, that too.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, Johnny Damon.

[Clint Dempsey]

Yeah.

[Johnny Damon]

How are you guys?

[AJ Hawk]

Good, how are you?

[Pat McAfee]

Fantastic to be here.

[Boston Connor]

How you doing, Johnny?

[Johnny Damon]

Fantastic.

[Wayne Gretzky]

What's up?

[Johnny Damon]

Great seeing you, my man.

[Pat McAfee]

Brother. Thank you for making this happen.

[Johnny Damon]

Oh, thank you for.

[Ty Schmidt]

You know that. Yeah, well, he is legends.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, Drip fc. Oh, yes, sir. Hey, I appreciate you.

[Boston Connor]

Dude, not you.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you, man. Sorry. All right, Johnny. World Series with the Yankees.

[Boston Connor]

I know.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, so they're back. You got to. You got to put the mic down. It's on the left side.

[Johnny Damon]

Oh, I got it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, there you go.

[Johnny Damon]

I don't do this much.

[Pat McAfee]

Here, let me put. Let me put this behind you.

[Johnny Damon]

Okay.

[AJ Hawk]

Thank you.

[Boston Connor]

Professional.

[Johnny Damon]

All right. You are a pro.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I'm not. Not like you. Did you hear the little bickering that happened here? Because Boston Connor, obviously big Red Sox fan, calls you a Boston legend. Yeah. Ty over there, massive New York Yankees fan, says New York Yankees legend just won a World Series with the New York Yankees. When you look back at your career, the fact that you're beloved on both sides of the biggest rivalry in the sport, what do you think that means or says about the sport and you as a player?

[Johnny Damon]

Well, the great thing is I've been loved and hated everywhere. So I went about my business the right way, played the game. Hustle. That's the only thing you can really control in baseball is hustle. Like your best win can turn into a out. Your bats win can turn into a bases clearing double. So it's. You have to take the ups with the downs. And I always did. I was always a fan favorite because I learned from Cal Ripken. He signed an autograph for me when I was 10 years old at Tinker Field. So I understood the. The fan aspect of it. So I continue it to this day. A bunch of these people love me out here.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell yeah.

[Johnny Damon]

Part of Drip fc.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell yeah.

[Johnny Damon]

And my team is showing up, they're balling out. And we had a great game last night. You know, unfortunately, things didn't go our way.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you lost.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, no.

[Johnny Damon]

All right. No, we didn't lose. We won. We won. Our team balled out. Check out the replay.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you guys now? What are you guys now? One and one. We have the replay. Actually, we have the replay here. I've not. This is my first time seeing it. Drip fc. That's a replay from the first game.

[Johnny Damon]

They tore this down last. Oh, yesterday.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. We appreciated them coming over here last night. We do not have the replay of last night. What happened? You guys got screwed.

[Johnny Damon]

I want you to check it out, please.

[Pat McAfee]

You sent me a text. You sent me a positive text. So I thought you guys won.

[Johnny Damon]

Oh, no, no. We won personally. Our team. We're a great team and we're still in it. We're going to. We're gonna keep on rocking. We're gonna keep on bringing our A game.

[Pat McAfee]

A little controversy maybe with the. The Drip FC game last night.

[Johnny Damon]

Take a look.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. We certainly will. I saw the clip you sent me of you playing some soccer, scoring a goal. Are you coaching the team? General manager of the team. Owner of the team. What is the title you have?

[Johnny Damon]

I sponsor the team with my drink, aame.com. we are a healthy alternative to what's out there. No artificial anything. No forever chemicals. Like. Nope. Yeah. So we are good. Hydration rocket. Yeah. We got Gary Brecker, we got Tyler Adams. Bo Jackson's been with the team for a while, so, yeah, we're ready to rock and roll.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. You just brought up Bo Jackson. How closely do you pay attention to current baseball?

[Johnny Damon]

I started to pay more attention because I have eight kids.

[Pat McAfee]

Was that eight kids?

[Chris Paul]

Eight kids. I have four kids.

[Johnny Damon]

Four kids. 10 earlier.

[Pat McAfee]

He does have 10 kids. They're all over the place. You have eight kids?

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah, man. Irresistible. And I just have to leave, Right?

[Pat McAfee]

Obviously. Okay, so you've been paying attention more. The MLB viewership is up 10% on both networks. Fox and ESPN. Feels like it's because the superstars are playing well. Is that what you agree with? Like, baseball is good when it's superstars, like, you are playing well and the teams that everybody wants to see are playing well. Do you think that's why they're having success?

[Johnny Damon]

Absolutely. There is so much talent out there, and everyone asked me who I root for, and I. I root for the back of the jersey. Like, I'm always going to root for Aaron Judge. I love the way Durant plays for the Red Sox. It reminds me of y. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

No kids.

[Johnny Damon]

There's so much talent out there. And sh.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. Fun, right?

[Johnny Damon]

Amazing. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

It's fun to watch as an X baseball player. What he's doing. Can you. Especially if he Gets in and pitches this year, which I guess there is a chance. When he was starting his career with the Angels and he was pitching and hitting, we were talking about him as people that don't know baseball that well as like, holy, we got an alien here. Why is it so abnormal? And what are your thoughts on Shohei?

[Johnny Damon]

Well, because you do have to concentrate on something and Shohei hasn't pitched in a while. I think he could be very successful. But stepping back to the mound after taking a year and a half off, it's tough. I think he can do it. But for how long? I mean, Babe Ruth was the epitome of greatness. And in our day we had the Brooks Kichnick with the Cubs who could do it, but they just didn't want to take away the best part of a player's game. It's kind of like Travis Hunter right now. What's he going to do? Shohei, he's the greatest hitter going right now with Aaron Judge. And why take that away from him? There's a lot of stress that goes on to being a pitcher. You give up a couple runs and now you have to go hit. I think it's very tough. We did it in Little League, he's.

[Pat McAfee]

Doing it in the big leagues. Okay, so I, I appreciate you saying that. Ty Schmitz, our baseball aficionado, he's been basically saying the same thing. Although it would be sweet to see sh do both. Go ahead, Ty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, actually, I, I wanted to ask you about the Savannah Bananas experience that you had because, you know, like, as I won't say that I dislike it because I don't. But as someone who's like a die hard baseball fan, like, I would much rather watch the Yankees, you know, then obviously, you know, what they do with the kids and everything, and then 80,000 to 100,000 people going to the stadium to do it. But how cool was that experience as a whole? And are you surprised that they've had the, the kind of success that they. Because I mean, it is crazy. They're selling out football stadiums and those guys can still play. It's not just like a Mickey Mouse, you know, hey, show up at the ballpark and these guys are going to kick it around. Harlem Globe Trotters type thing. So what did you think of the whole experience?

[Johnny Damon]

I thought it was so amazing that I decided to go out three times and I didn't go out last year. My last at bat, I got a base hit. We won the inning. We celebrated. The guys got me on the dugout we took our shirts off and I forgot to shave my chest and. But yeah, I kind of forget. You can't step out of the. But it's was so fun. I'm so happy what they're doing because they can probably sell out the Oakland Coliseum more so than the A's did.

[Seamus Coleman]

Yeah.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So it's.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah, I love it. It's fun. It gets the kids into baseball. And when you see the game is fun. I mean, Ken Griffith Jr. Made the. With his smile. He made yeah every. He was the kid and everybody loved it. I played the game. I loved it. I understood the ups and downs. And as I always mentioned, you got to bring it every single day. You got to bring your A game and your best may not get it done sometimes. So you have to keep plugging away the pitcher. He's trying to make a living too, so he's trying to take it from you and you're trying to get.

[Pat McAfee]

How many games do you guys play in a season?

[Johnny Damon]

It's 162. But if you. You count spring training and the playoffs all the way to the World series, it's about 210 games in about 235 days.

[Pat McAfee]

Rock stars.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Just living on the road. I don't know how you do it. I don't know how you stay focused. I don't know how you keep your body together. I don't know how you don't get incredibly lonely on the road. I don't know. The mental battle of MLB player is huge alongside the physical battle, obviously. And you're failing a lot. And there's a lot of droughts that come with that. And they have the mental toughness to stay positive. Wonderful that I think that's the most important thing that baseball players have. AJ Has a question for you. Johnny.

[Chris Paul]

Yeah, John, I know you played for almost 20 years. I just wonder within the clubhouse, how did that clubhouse change from say, your first year in the bigs to your last year? I've talked to some. Some guys that maybe played 15, 20 years and they were just the drastic difference from when they first got into the majors till the end. Just how guys kind of carry themselves, took care of their body, all of that. How did that change for you?

[Johnny Damon]

Oh, it changed drastically because I got called up from double A in 1995. Never had a big league spring training. So I show up and the Royals released Vince Coleman, like one of my childhood heroes. And I'm like, I'm walking into this clubhouse and my childhood hero is leaving. So I never Had a experience of the six weeks of spring training at the big league level. And then there's some growing pains. You know, they love to do the righty lefty. If a lefty's pitching, you might not be playing. But I've always hit lefties well, so you kind of have to understand that. But I learned how to play winning baseball when I got traded to Oakland. Like, Kansas City was great. We had the best offense in the league for about three straight years, but we didn't have pitching at the time. I had Mike Sweeney, Jermaine Dye, Joe Randa. I mean, we got after it. Carlos Beltran. And then I had too good of a year in Giambi and learned how to play winning baseball, learning how to have fun on and off the field, and we got after it. We won 102 games. Seattle won 116 that year, but we had Mulder, Zito, Hudson. But at the end, I became like a father figure to a bunch of these guys because I'm hanging out with the parents after the game and not the players. When I joined Tampa, I was like, wow, this is a little strange. My wife and I were like, all the kids wanted to go back to the room and play their games, and we wanted to go, relax, have a good time. Yeah, we started. Started hanging out with the parents.

[Pat McAfee]

I love that. And especially if you're an OG and does it the right way, which it sounds like you did. Did you drink urine?

[Johnny Damon]

No, never drink urine.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's what he did.

[Boston Connor]

Sure.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah. No, never.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what he did to stay home.

[Boston Connor]

Good move.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, no.

[Chris Paul]

Did you know anyone that did? I never did.

[Johnny Damon]

No. There could be rumors, but. No, never drink. Drag it. No, no.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I.

[Pat McAfee]

What about peeing on your hands? Callous for.

[AJ Hawk]

Was Moises Alo the only one to do that in the league, or was there. A lot of guys peed on their hands?

[Pat McAfee]

I. You guys peed on your hands. Is that something baseball does? Do you? Yeah. Who peed on your hands?

[Johnny Damon]

We don't talk about it. If anyone's going to do it, it's my wife, but.

[Boston Connor]

That's.

[Ty Schmidt]

Right.

[Johnny Damon]

But we're. We're not that way.

[Pat McAfee]

So you guys have so many of those, like, rituals and stuff because of how long the season is, and every movie we've seen about baseball, there's some absurdly ridiculous routine that takes place or ritual that happens before games. Then we start learning about stuff that you guys are doing. It's like, hey, the baseball guy's kind of freaky over there.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah. The golden thong when you went into a slump.

[AJ Hawk]

Hell yeah.

[Johnny Damon]

We shared it in the clubhouse, so slumps didn't last too long.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Hey, listen, let me get my ass cheek some floss here and then we'll get out of this quickly. Tone has a question for you, John.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, Johnny, these two were arguing, but like out in public. Do more people come out to you about the Game 7 with the Red Sox or the 09 Yankees World Series run?

[Johnny Damon]

Man, it's both. I mean, I was a love player.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm a legend everywhere, bro.

[Johnny Damon]

Well, well, I was a fan favorite. Everybody where. It kind of depends. So when I go to New York.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Johnny Damon]

I wear the New York ring when.

[Pat McAfee]

I go to Boston.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah. Smart. Yeah. I don't want to get into any trouble. I want to go about my life. But I do flash both rings certain times and it's. It's a cool feeling because it's only Babe Ruth and I, who were starters, who won for both teams. So I'm in great company and I'm, you know, Yankees need to figure it out, but the Dodgers are the best team out there. They're so deep and they're saying New.

[Pat McAfee]

York is the Mets town now.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, tell them, Johnny.

[Johnny Damon]

No, not yet. No, it's. It's early. It's early, but no.

[Pat McAfee]

They paid Juan Soto 750 million bucks.

[Johnny Damon]

Oh, they can afford it and they could give them a sweet. But the Yankees, the Yankees added like five or six players who made the team better. So I think they have a stronger run against the Dodgers this year. But the Dodgers are so deep. And a. Kiki Hernandez, what a great baseball player he is. He can play every position and he has fun playing the game like he. He became one of my favorites. And I root for the back of the jersey and he's doing great.

[Pat McAfee]

Connor roots for the Red Sox.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, no doubt about it. And Johnny, someone asked me earlier, like, is there bad blood between Damien because he was Yankees? I'm sure there was. In the time, I think most people can agree any. Any player who reversed the curse on that team is kind of good for life. So thank you for all that. But big conversation in baseball this offseason so far. Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe kind of now being okay to go into the hall of Fame. How do baseball players feel about those two guys? Pete Rose, I think Jeff hasn't said it. You can't really tell the story of baseball without Pete Rose. Rose. The players want him in the hall of Fame. Is that how most the players feel about guys who might have made some questionable decisions, or is the gambling kind of separate from the steroids era, would you say?

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah, well, I think it's about time. I mean, it's been forever. They had to wait for him to pass to figure this out. But I was with Sho. This Joe Jackson the other day, D. Sweeney down in Mexico, and we had a great time.

[Pat McAfee]

But.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah, should it, Joe, like the gambling incident. Gambling is all over the sport right now. And if you're going to let the fans gamble, I mean, we all played fantasy football. We're not gambling on the team. And if Pete Rose gambled on his team to win.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Johnny Damon]

I love my manager to say, we're going to. We're going to win. I'm going to make money, we're going to win. But, I mean, let bygones be bygones. I mean, there's so many things going on. I mean, we had the Ohtani incident, whereas. Oh, yeah, just sweep it under the rug right now. I know there's a lot of bigger issues in our world that we need to take care of, but. And even the steroid issue, I. I was against it back in the day because I was a guy who was always accused of it because I was a beast. And. And now you're seeing these guys. Like, I hope to see Barry Bonds get into the hall of Fame. He never got busted, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. His hat size, they say, yeah, we can see it.

[Boston Connor]

But.

[Johnny Damon]

Well, when we get older, I mean, everything grows like our earth. Everything.

[Pat McAfee]

Everything. Yeah, everything's good.

[Johnny Damon]

Like the best player that. If you ask my era, who was the best, Barry Bonds name is first on the list also. Roger Clemens.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Johnny Damon]

He never got busted. He had someone try to tell on him. But Roger Clemens, amazing.

[Pat McAfee]

Hold on. So I have a question for you. During that era, when it was happening, the summer of baseball or whatever, summer slam, when Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire are doing their things.

[Johnny Damon]

Same baseball.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that?

[Johnny Damon]

Saved baseball.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so, too. Biggest ratings of all time. Biggest ratings of all time. We were all very interested. You were. During that era. Now, I. The way I view it from outside looking in is that steroids was just very available.

[Johnny Damon]

No, no. Like, I've never saw anyone take a.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody talks about it in the locker room.

[Johnny Damon]

No. Well, especially me because I wasn't part of it. But I don't know what. They talked behind closed doors because, like.

[Pat McAfee]

In the NFL locker room, nobody brings it up. Nobody talks about it.

[Johnny Damon]

No one talks about it in the big league.

[Pat McAfee]

Back then, whenever that was all Happening. It wasn't just like an open, like, hey, if you need some old. The baboon who's over here, he can help. It wasn't like that. It wasn't that lackadaisical.

[Johnny Damon]

It was in that lack of days ago. And it's grown men making decisions on their life. Let them decide what they want to do. Let them get better. I didn't have to get better, but I found out towards the end of my career, the guys who were getting popped, they were getting four or five year contracts because they cared so much about what they were doing. So I'm like, hey, have at it. Do, do what you want.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But that felt good for you, looking in the mirror being like, these are using full pharmacies. Keep up with me. We're about to hit a heart out. And I just want to say thank you so much for making time. I think you also follow the show, is what I've been told.

[Johnny Damon]

Yes, I do follow the show. And let's everyone follow the game tonight. My guys at Drip fc, they're bringing their A game and we're. We're here.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you guys got to win. You guys got to win.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Especially after the loss last night.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah. Yeah. Check it out.

[Pat McAfee]

Big L last night, Johnny.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah.

[Chris Paul]

I was a score.

[Johnny Damon]

I don't consider it. It was five to three. But our boys B out. Check out the.

[Pat McAfee]

They beat you guys by two. How so? I didn't. This wasn't a one.

[Johnny Damon]

Yeah, check it out.

[Pat McAfee]

We have to check this out. Check it out.

[Johnny Damon]

We had some goals taken away from us. We had a few things happen.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, they're against you? They're working against you.

[Johnny Damon]

Oh, yeah, Yeah. I mean, we're facing a tough team, you know, and we're facing a bigger drink company right now. We're doing our A game, you know, so.

[Pat McAfee]

All right.

[Johnny Damon]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Wayne Gretzky]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Wayne Gretzky]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Seamus Coleman]

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[Pat McAfee]

The Venmo MasterCard is issued by the Bancorp bank and a pursuant to license by Mastercard International Inc. Card may be used everywhere MasterCard is accepted. Venmo purchase restrictions apply. Is obviously the team that we are here representing and a team that we are proud of and a team that is potentially going to win $1 million at this TST right now. Hope Solo's team is taking on the speedy Turtles right behind us. They are currently up three nothing. But let's remember that no game can end without a walk off goal happening in target score time. This is an electrifying style of soccer. We're lucky to be here. This Cary, NC Wake Med Soccer park is one of the most beautiful places as I've ever seen constructed. There's been some rain today. There's going to be some lightning later. But this grass will remain impeccable and the setup and the facilities are remarkable. Shout to Cary, North Carolina. Shout to the TST folks and shout out to Concave Soccer Club potentially going on a run this year. The boys are buzzing. We're undefeated. We got a game against Wrexham. As you know, that is Mr. Reynolds and McElhenney's team. That there was an entire documentary about this. This is not their professional team but I believe this is some ex players from Wrexham that are here. They're a good squad. They'll be our best challenge. That game's taking place at 5:30 Eastern this afternoon. Cannot wait to see how the boys respond after a great day one of tst. Now I'm not alone up here. No one half of the Hammer Don Cowboys AP Tone is here. The toxic table is here at Ty Schmidt and at Boston Conner. Then there's a man who's a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion, a Rodda cup winner and a father of 10. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. hawkins Hawker. The legs look good, bud. You've been squatting every morning, huh? I like you showcasing the calves. There's Some big ass calves.

[Chris Paul]

No, not every morning. But I did see o' Grella in the weight room the other day. He's out there grinding away getting ready for the squad for the, you know, the, the stretch run you guys have coming up.

[Pat McAfee]

Gorilla, a member of Concave, a soccer club at one time during the year he was not on Concave was actually going to cancel all of conceifa and then, you know, we got Gorilla back on the squad, back on the right path and the boys are now buzzing. It's not just obviously tst the NHL Stanley cup finals. Solo FC has. They've done the game, they've done it. Target score time. Solo FC dominating 4 nothing win over the speedy Turtles. Who weren't speedy enough. No, they were Solo FC's team. They can run. You can watch. Just like in hockey, you can see what team's faster and what teams. In TST you can see what teams are faster, what teams can run more. Yeah. Also Solo FC very deep. A lot of players on their bench. That's good news because there's a lot of subbing. This is an exhausting event as Hope Solo puts the golden scarf golden fleece on whoever hit the target. Score time. I had a chance to do that just yesterday. What an honor. It is an honor. NHL Stanley Cup Finals started last night. Edmonton Oilers up 10 in the series and an overtime win in Edmonton over the Florida Panthers. We'll talk to Wayne Gretzky in the first hour. He chit chatted about how he feels it's probably going to go 7. Florida Panthers are going to answer but maybe this is the year that a Canadian team wins the Stanley cup for first time. Long time NBA finals start tonight in Oklahoma City as the Thunder are nine and a half point favorites as the Indiana Pacers flew over there two days ago in the middle of a tornado. Actually got rerouted, plane almost ran out of gas, had to stop in Tulsa, refuel, get back up in the sky, go over to Oklahoma City. Five, six hours of travel time. I do believe with probably some rocky.

[AJ Hawk]

Clouds, I'd say Rocky series in tornado alley.

[Pat McAfee]

I believe Oklahoma is right in the middle of tornado town.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes it is.

[Pat McAfee]

And T's and peace everybody. Indiana also without doubt. This is the shortest distance between two teams that are playing in the NBA Finals. Oklahoma City and Indianapolis represented in the finals. Two small markets, two fan bases that are yearning for a dub and two fan bases that are going to be incredibly passionate. A great style of basketball is going to be on show, on display. That happens tonight. Let's talk a little bit. NFL football. There's been some news out of a training camp happening in Indianapolis. Colts quarterback Anthony Richardson has suffered a shoulder injury and will be out for minicamp next week. Shane Steichen would also go on to say that the hopes are that he will be back for training camp. The hopes are that he's back for training camp in a couple months from now is obviously a little bit alarming, but he has had a shoulder injury in the past, got tackled, had surgery, missed a season, came back last year. Obviously he's had numerous other injuries as well. Well, throughout his short NFL career thus far. Shoulder injury, not good. Hopefully this isn't something that has been lingering and hopefully this is something he can get past because this year is a year where he can explode on the scene as a superstar in the NFL. Live up to the number four overall pick hype that he was just a few years ago. Daniel Jones has been brought in to compete with him. Danny Dimes looking to make Indianapolis his forever home after everything that happened in New York. Obviously, an injury in minicamp and OTAs is not great, but at least we got Danny Dimes. There supposed to be a competition. What does this mean to you, AJ Looking forward for the Colts?

[Chris Paul]

I mean, yeah, I believe that definitely is going to be a competition, but if you're Anthony Richardson, you want every single rep you can possibly get, whether it's otas minicamp. And like you said, the fact that he said he will hopefully be available for training camp is what would worry me thinking. All right, what? We're six, eight weeks out of training camp? Six weeks, most likely. I wanted to make sure my quarterback is. Is 100% going into camp.

[Pat McAfee]

Stephen Holder reported that Shane Steichen says Anthony Richardson aggravated his right AC joint, which is the surgery that he had two years ago. Not great.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, not at all.

[Pat McAfee]

Not great.

[AJ Hawk]

Especially if you're.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, they're not.

[AJ Hawk]

They're not hitting him. Obviously, if you aggravated just throwing, that's definitely not good.

[Pat McAfee]

CJ Stroud also had some soreness in his right arm, didn't throw A at OTAs. We're all alarmed by that. Hopefully Anthony's able to get healthy. Hopefully they're able to have a full roster going into training camp and a full competition. What's that, Connor?

[Boston Connor]

Well, they don't, and it sucks. But if, if you're dating dimes, this shouldn't be a competition anymore. It should be, hey, these next two weeks, this is my team. And after that, they're never going to turn it back over to ar. That's just me personally. I assume Danny Dimes, if he wants this to be his forever home, which hopefully he does, does, he will just say, you know what, this competition's over. This is my team now. I'm not gonna, you know, pitter patter around while Anthony Richardson's getting better. I'm gonna take advantage of the time and basically show everybody, hey, ar, that was a fun time. But it's. It's Danny Dimes time in Indy. Okay, sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

Leading the meeting rooms, obviously, leading the hangouts, the throwing in the summer, everything like that. This does kind of open the door for Danny Dimes to potentially fly. Feel as if he is the starter as opposed to in a competition. Not wanting to piss anybody off because there's going to be allegiances and alliances in the locker room. Battling through that is a part of having a quarterback competition. Especially when you bring in a guy from outside getting paid more than the rookie that was drafted number four overall. Interesting situation. Hate that he's hurt again, but this is kind of becoming Anthony Richardson's story in the NFL. Hopefully he's able to get healthy. Derek Carr spoke about his shoulder injury that is sidelined him for the rest of his life. This kind of came out of nowhere. Yes, it's kind of came out of nowhere. So last season happens. Derek Carr and the Saints obviously don't have a great year, but then the offseason horizons and it's like, okay, Derek Carr is going to be their quarterback. He got back into throwing. He had some shoulder soreness, I guess. Then he goes to the Saints, they start talking, what's the future? What's this? He retires, he's no longer their quarterback. Now we're getting more information. He basically said he would have needed surgery. If you would have got surgery, you would have been rehabbing all season. They would have had to pay him 20 million or whatever the amount of millions it is. He would have been doing nothing. So instead of that, he just retired. Baby face move by Derek Carr. And also, how can you have that serious of a shoulder injury without knowing it for a while? That's seemingly what happened here for Derek Carr. Either he's incredibly tough and he's just like, ah, it just hurts a little, little bit. Or this thing came up out of nowhere. I don't fully understand how we got here.

[Chris Paul]

I don't fully understand either. I would think after the season gets over, that's when you have your postseason. You know, they check you get your MRIs and everything. And you're thinking, if I get this shoulder or when I got injury, let's get it.

[AJ Hawk]

The initial injury.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, he heard his, what was it? Hand or arm or wrist. And then they didn't realize that his shoulder was hurt at all until his wrist completely healed after the season. Wrist heals, he goes to throw. Oh, I hurt my shoulder as well. So they just had no idea that this guy had a bum shoulder until he recovered from the initial wrist injury that he got from launching himself for a first down. Which is comedy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it is hilarious. Especially in the time of the season and the expectations at that point of the season for what Derek Carr tried to do. Kelly Moe down there is the first time head coach of the New Orleans Saints. They know it's going to take a while. Yeah, they know it's going to to take a while.

[Boston Connor]

Long time do.

[Pat McAfee]

But that's why everybody said, why didn't they draft Shador? They need a starter. They didn't really address it early. Shador Sanders threw a touchdown to Cleveland Brown, but he can't do that. Wow.

[AJ Hawk]

I wonder, I wonder if Tyler Shuck is throwing any. Probably not.

[Pat McAfee]

I Shador Sanders looking comfortable spinning it. Touchdown Cleveland Brown. Shador Sanders, will he be the quarterback in the fall? We shall see. If he goes from fifth round to starter with the amount of people that are on that roster, that'll be a great story and he has definitely earned it. Good luck to Shador. Good luck to the Sanders family. I also like the fact that coach Prime's coming out talking going, you guys are lying about my boy. I don't like it. We shall see how it all works out. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's a two time Olympic gold medalist. 12 time all star in the NBA, 11 time all NBA, nine time all defense. He bops the wood. This guy bops the wood. Ladies and gentlemen, a member of the San Antonio spurs, also selected to the NBA 71st, 75th anniversary team. Crystal.

[Boston Connor]

How you doing?

[Pat McAfee]

I did not know that stats okay. I did not know that stat. Most people don't legit. As I read it right there, I was like, oh God. Oh, it should have been 11, should have been 10.

[Seamus Coleman]

Probably should have a couple more. Maybe. Maybe like 11 or 12.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't get the watch because they don't show it enough. You're smacking the wood every time they're coming down.

[Seamus Coleman]

Ain't doing all that.

[Pat McAfee]

Why not? We can't bop the wood a little bit.

[Seamus Coleman]

I play offense too.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, let's talk about you playing offense, you're a point guard. They put you together with Wemby down there. What was it like playing with him? Is he different than anybody that's ever played basketball? And what's your takeaway of the San Antonio spurs going forward?

[Seamus Coleman]

Wemby is different. He's different being 7 foot 4, able to move the way that he does and he just loves the game. He loves the hoop. I think the spurs are going to be great. You have Harrison Barnes, who's a great vet. They brought in de' Aaron Fox, all of us. You know, I think it's just. Team wants to stay healthy.

[Pat McAfee]

Allegedly potential landing spot for a couple free agents. Allegedly. The San Antonio spurs might be active in the market to get some other big time names down there. Everybody obviously chasing the playoffs in the NBA finals, which tip off tonight. You're a member of the Oklahoma City Thunder. Yeah. Great years there. That fan base we've allegedly been told best in all of NBA.

[Seamus Coleman]

Allegedly, huh?

[Boston Connor]

I mean, it's competitive to see that.

[Seamus Coleman]

Hat you got on.

[Pat McAfee]

Go ahead. Yeah, but it just. I'm just telling you, it's being alleged. I've never experienced it myself. I could see and on tv it looks amazing.

[Seamus Coleman]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

What would a championship mean for that city and why is that team perfect for that city?

[Seamus Coleman]

Seemingly everything. Everything. I'm. I'm sure there the same things you would say about the Indiana fan base about every. Everybody just being, you know, hard working and if I played my rookie, my rookie year in Oklahoma, my first two years in NBA, I played in Oklahoma because I got displaced with Hurricane Katrina. So I literally grew up there. Right. My first two years in Oklahoma City. Then I had an opportunity to go back when I left Houston. And the fans there are just genuine. They love their team. Right. They love their team. They. They appreciate you if you played for them before, but when you come to play against them, they're about their team.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's talk about SGA and his crew. Obviously an incredible. He's six foot six. I guess I didn't know that. I had no Idea he was 6 foot 6 from watching him play. Because all the NBA guys, you know this are so abnormally tall. Let alone Wemby. Right. Well, that's the thing. That's when I see you. You're a tall, actual human. Yeah, yeah. You know, walking. Walking amongst us. Tall guy. Yeah. On a basketball court. Absolutely absurd. I had no idea SGA was 6 foot 6. Can you talk about his development from whenever he got there to what he is now? And is that the team you're picking, I assume the Oklahoma City Thunder to win the NBA Finals.

[Seamus Coleman]

I ain't picking nothing. You know what I mean?

[Pat McAfee]

No, say it with your chest, dude.

[Seamus Coleman]

I'm going tell you straight up because I mean, I'm a fan of the game. Not even trying to BS you, but one of the assistant coaches for the Indiana Pacers is. Was in my wedding, like my brother.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, I like that. I like that.

[Seamus Coleman]

De Niro Pargo, who I love, that's my brother. You know what I mean? So I think it's going to be a hard fought series. Obviously, I definitely have ties to OKC with Shea, with Lou Dort, with the coaches, with Sam Prestley, all those guys. But I'm. I'm gonna definitely pull up to a game to see it.

[Pat McAfee]

Can't wait to see you there. Can't wait to see the reaction. Let's talk about Tyrese Halliburton. I feel like he is an old school point guard. I feel like you probably feel the same way. I'm not, I don't want to speak for you. Whenever they look at his stats, I feel like his points are always the first thing that people attack him for. He is the facilitator for that whole team though, and he loves that position. Is that normal in the modern NBA? And how do you view Tyrese's game?

[Seamus Coleman]

Man, he just plays like with a spirit, with a joy, you know what I mean? You can tell anytime you see a point guard, you can tell how they are when you look at their teammates, right? So his teammates, they always know they're going to get the ball at the right time, he's going to make the right play. So it's a fun way to play. But actually my favorite player on their team to watch probably is Nemhard dude.

[Pat McAfee]

He get headbutted by Jalen Brunson?

[Seamus Coleman]

Well, he's a two way player, you know what I mean? He plays defense. Defense. He takes that assignment night in and night out. But also he'll. He'll go get a bucket if you need him to.

[Pat McAfee]

Pascal Siakam, also insane. He can run. That team runs how many? I think Oklahoma City probably known for the same thing. Is there teams that you guys know, like a Carlisle team, for instance, this team is going to run and how do you prepare for that? Is there.

[Seamus Coleman]

It's tough, man. The Pacers are like that. They play fast, right? And the thing is, any great team, they want to figure out what their identity is. And that's what the Patriots figured out. And that's what OKC figured out. Okc, so good. Shade's out there, Jalen Williams out there. But all of those guys, they star in their role, they defend, and they have Fun playing defense.

[Pat McAfee]

Nine time. All defensive selection should have been 11 or 12, maybe, maybe even 13. How many years you've been in the league?

[Seamus Coleman]

Just finished 20.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah, definitely just 12 those first seven years. AJ has a question for you.

[Chris Paul]

Yeah. So if you, if you were coaching the Pacers, how do you, how do you beat this Oklahoma City team? We hear no matter how much the Pacers want to run, OKC can run. They can kind of do whatever you want to play.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. You're a scouting report, you're a point guard. Your coach on the court does kind.

[Chris Paul]

Of seem like to take on OKC and beat them seems like it's very, very difficult task right now. How would you go about attacking them?

[Seamus Coleman]

I guess what's interesting is watching Indiana play in the playoffs, right? Even when they played against the Knicks, most people, if you talk hoops with them, they like, man, look at the score of this game. Usually the playoffs are a lot slower, low scoring games. I think it was tough for the Knicks to beat them because you looked at the, it still looked like a regular season game. So I think that's a lot of credit to Indiana in continuing to pay play at that pace. And that's hard to do, especially in the playoffs when everybody's trying to grind out each possession. Like that's a mindset. Mindset that you have to have that make or miss, get the ball out and we going.

[Pat McAfee]

I think it scored 130. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coleman]

It's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. In a playoff game to watch, man. And if you score on them, they don't care. Like if you, if you score on them, their entire bench, I was lucky to sit at push. Like, literally as soon as that ball's in the bucket, that thing's coming back the other way.

[Seamus Coleman]

And if you can do that consistently all game long, it's like wears you out.

[Chris Paul]

Feel like it would be.

[Seamus Coleman]

It can. But if there's a team that's built for. For is okay.

[Pat McAfee]

See, Connor has a question for you, Chris.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, Chris, a lot of conversation after this whole Dallas Mavericks thing. Getting the number one overall pick, Shaquille o' Neal came out with a story. You know, David Stern asked him if you want to play in the hot or the cold. He said, hot. The magic, get the first pick. LeBron said some things about, you know, it's not as big of a Coincidence that the Cleveland got the first pick when I was there. Derrick Rose. Chicago. Chicago. Obviously there was the situation where your trade allegedly the. When the owner owned the Pelicans Hornets.

[Seamus Coleman]

Then that wasn't a legend.

[Pat McAfee]

That wasn't a legend. I just want to make sure that happened.

[Boston Connor]

That that did happen. David starts to know, we're not letting you go to la. How do you feel about the fodder around the first pick? Because, you know, most people think, of course, the Mavericks trade Luca to la. What is. You know, what do the Mavericks get? They get Cooper Flag, who's everyone's saying is worth 500 to a billion dollars by the time it's all said and done. What do you think about that?

[Seamus Coleman]

Just so you know, I'm just like everybody else, right. Like, I'm a fan. I was. I was at home in LA and I was watching the ping pong balls, like everybody. And then when I seen the spurs, what they popped into like the top four.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coleman]

So we was going crazy. Guys in my team group chat, we like, oh, oh, what's about to happen? And I'm in LA right now and Cooper Flagg has been out there. I've been in the gym with him a couple times or whatnot. So he is as real as advertised. So for me, I don't know, I'd be like, man, that is crazy. Yeah, that is crazy. But just so you know that that Lakers situation, that's not allegedly.

[Boston Connor]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, so what? The team owned the Pelicans at the time, though, right? The league owned the league.

[Seamus Coleman]

Right. So our owner at the time, George Shen, I guess it fell on hard times and didn't have the money. And so he basically gave or sold the team back to the NBA, to the league.

[Pat McAfee]

And they were running at the time. And Stern said, we're not. Yeah, right.

[Ty Schmidt]

I had to go play with you.

[Pat McAfee]

Think I'm trading Chris Paul. Yeah, right.

[Ty Schmidt]

No way.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm gonna see.

[Seamus Coleman]

What's interesting is it was right after the CBA negotiations. Right.

[Pat McAfee]

And you were a pretty big voice in that. The entire thing.

[Seamus Coleman]

I was on the executive committee at the time.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, nice. That's good spot to be in the ownership box. They're really screwed. If it's anything like the NFL, if it's anything like. Are you an unrestricted free agent right now?

[Seamus Coleman]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And you're playing?

[Seamus Coleman]

That's my plan is to play.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So I know 20 years in, you look in phenomenal shape. You have a snack company that's like healthy snacks.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Yeah, I bringing them.

[Pat McAfee]

I assume yeah, thanks for bringing last year. We got a six.

[Seamus Coleman]

Got them right here. We got them right here.

[Pat McAfee]

Where the pickle chips, man.

[Seamus Coleman]

Yo, they're having a conversation.

[Pat McAfee]

As they should.

[Ty Schmidt]

Snacks.

[Seamus Coleman]

Where the snacks?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, snacks. Do we have the snacks?

[Chris Paul]

There you go.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Anyways, you take care of your body. Body. The temple, obviously you're all in.

[Seamus Coleman]

Absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you thought about how many more years is there a conversation? Because everybody right now is doing the LeBron combo.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

It's like, well, how much longer can LeBron go? How much longer can LeBron. Hey, team. How you guys doing?

[Johnny Damon]

Hey.

[Pat McAfee]

Eating good? We eat good out here. Thank you so much.

[Boston Connor]

The Big Dill Ranch.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. Big Dill Ranch.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Big Dill Ranch.

[Boston Connor]

This is my go to.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you.

[Seamus Coleman]

That's my favorite right there. You gotta try that.

[Pat McAfee]

This is good eating popcorn. It has surprisingly plant based ingredients inside of it. No artificial flavors, no preservatives, no synthetic colors. And it's deliciously vegan.

[Boston Connor]

That's the truth.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so this one is popped in coconut oil. Obviously that's what you're supposed to make.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it's good for you.

[Pat McAfee]

I like to cook my steaks in coconut or just get a little fish oils as well for the joints. Everything that Chris Paul is tallow. But Everybody's talking about LeBron. How long is LeBron going to go? How long for you? Similar situation. What is the conversation you have? Like, is it with your family? Is it with your agent? Is it with yourself? Is it with trainer? How does it go about that decision and looking at the future?

[Seamus Coleman]

It's with my family more than anything. You know, I see you, Pat, and how you got one. How many kids you have?

[Pat McAfee]

One daughter.

[Seamus Coleman]

One daughter. I see you with your daughter.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. She's beautiful.

[Seamus Coleman]

I know everybody has their own situations. I. I talked to my family about it. My son just turned 16. My daughter's 12. The past six seasons I've lived without them. Right. So I go to San Antonio, Phoenix, Golden State. No, they were in Houston with me.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Seamus Coleman]

See, but I've been been around a few teams, but I've been away from them for the last six years, so it's a little different.

[Pat McAfee]

That's the conversation.

[Seamus Coleman]

That's the conversation.

[Pat McAfee]

You think body's good?

[Seamus Coleman]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

You think body's good for this season or do you think like, I could still play play for a while if I wanted to?

[Seamus Coleman]

Well, I don't think I want to play for a while. While I'm being honest with you, like I want to be dad, you know, I Mean, I still love to play. I'm. I was up in the gym at 6am this morning.

[Pat McAfee]

How'd we shoot? Pretty good.

[Seamus Coleman]

I didn't shoot this morning. I worked out this morning. But yesterday I was in the gym. Day before, I was in the gym, you know, and it's crazy. My daughter actually hoops now, so before I flew out here, I was in the gym with her for 20 minutes. Like, with kids, sometimes you just gotta do short sessions. So I was in 20 minutes doing ball handling with her, and it was priceless. You don't get that time back.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're right. And it seems to go faster as they get older, from what I've been told.

[Seamus Coleman]

Yeah, but I want to hoop because I love to hoop. But at the same time, I do want to be dad.

[Pat McAfee]

You're kind of battling.

[Boston Connor]

I mean, Boston's a good place to bring family.

[Pat McAfee]

That's really far. That's really. That's the furthest you could possibly.

[Boston Connor]

But I'm just saying, some of those other places, maybe not the best. Boston, the schools.

[Seamus Coleman]

Is that right?

[Boston Connor]

The high schools, the private schools.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That's what we've heard about Boston.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Very welcoming people.

[Boston Connor]

It's up and coming. It's up and coming.

[Pat McAfee]

Ty has a question for you, Chris.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm curious how the players in the NBA feel about it. We always talk about the NFL, like, going into a season. Every single fan base is like, hey, we can. We can win a Super bowl this year. But guys who actually play or people who are in the know know, like, there's probably only eight teams who are going to compete this year. We've seen that. I think this is going to be the seventh or the eighth year in a row where a different chance is. Does it feel like going into seasons, like, with where the parody's at in the league, like, more teams can actually compete and win a title?

[Seamus Coleman]

Yeah. I mean, I've been on all these different committees for years and know how they want parity in the league. But the thing that you can't ever calculate is injuries. Right. Injuries are everything in any league.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Anthony Richardson just hurt his shoulder and OTAs for the Colts were out of quarterback again. Thanks for breaking up. Just happened 10 minutes. But.

[Seamus Coleman]

But those are the things, you know, the. The injury to Jason Tatum. Right. You know, Kyrie Irving getting hurt when he did all these different guys. You know what I mean? What is y' all laughing at?

[Pat McAfee]

Or. I'm just. We're eating your pop. We're getting. We are getting yelled at from the trucks. Man, this is good. Eat, man.

[Seamus Coleman]

Going out here. My bad.

[Pat McAfee]

How.

[Seamus Coleman]

How you doing out here?

[Pat McAfee]

I played last night.

[Seamus Coleman]

Oh, I seen it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Okay.

[Seamus Coleman]

You had a wide open shot.

[Pat McAfee]

Excuse me. The goalie was in perfect position. I. The guy that goalie for their team was really good. They five, but he was really.

[Ty Schmidt]

He was working all night.

[Johnny Damon]

You had a wide open shot from.

[AJ Hawk]

I think that was actually a new goalie that had to give up any.

[Pat McAfee]

Put it into the woods.

[Boston Connor]

This was the one that really should have gone in.

[Pat McAfee]

But look at that assist. I'm Chris Paul.

[Seamus Coleman]

Get that. Get that out of here.

[Pat McAfee]

Chris Paul with the assist. And then here's porch might be the best player in the league. He actually won the tournament last year.

[Seamus Coleman]

That right there Almost hurt yourself.

[Pat McAfee]

No, not almost. Yeah, we're the back spot.

[Johnny Damon]

See the power on the shot.

[Pat McAfee]

I fell a couple times last night. I. I hadn't touched a soccer ball since last year's tst.

[Seamus Coleman]

I remember what you did last year.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you, Chris. Jeez, this is a great tournament. Hey, this is a great tournament. You're a part of it, right?

[Seamus Coleman]

Absolutely. We are so grateful for y' all being here. Seriously, man. Seriously. It's something that I look forward to, obviously. I wish I was in the finals and couldn't be here, but listen, this is a great time.

[Pat McAfee]

Are you going to play ever running your mouth a lot? Are you ever going to get on the field?

[Seamus Coleman]

Absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Seamus Coleman]

Absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe you play for our team next year.

[Seamus Coleman]

Next year if I'm done playing. If I retired, I will absolutely get out there with y' all.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. You're all right. All right. From what I know, with the way you play and the way you operate, you're going to love our team. Yeah. We are a hard nosed team. Is that right? We're smacking a wood.

[Boston Connor]

Talk a lot of junk.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. A lot of being out of our tone. Has a question for you, Chris.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, Chris, last week we played a clip of Joe Flacco. He was asked about mentoring Shedeur and Kenny Pickett and Dylan Gabriel, the younger quarterbacks on his team. And he basically said, if I answer this and say, yeah, I want to be a mentor, it means I don't want to start or if I say, no, I don't want to be a mentor, it makes me look like an asshole. He basically said, if these guys don't pay attention to what I'm doing and realize that I've been in the league for 15, 16 years, whatever it is, like that's. That's kind of on them. How does the NBA treat that? Like, now that you're a veteran? The spurs obviously had the last two rookie of the years. Like, do you feel like you have to be a mentor, or is it on them to kind of follow you and watch kind of what you do?

[Seamus Coleman]

I think it's a combination of both. But you. You got to be who you are.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coleman]

Right. And I've genuinely always just. I'm not a hoarder of information. Right. So I'm. I'm gonna share what I know, what I see to. To all the guys that's been my teammates. But I say this all the time. Guys only gonna respect what you saying if you can hoop.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coleman]

Right. And in this new generation, they don't care about what you did. They want to know what you can do now. And so from the different teams that I went to when I went to San Antonio, Antonio this past summer, the first time I went to go hoop with the guys, I don't know why I remember this. I think it was because it was around my daughter's birthday. It was August 12th through the 16th. It was a mini camp.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coleman]

And I. I treated that like. Almost like the finals. Because your first impression is everything. Right. So I made sure that when I came to the gym that I was in tip top shape. And when we hoop, I was gonna get to it. Because once they see that now they'll. They'll listen to you and the mentorship kind of happens.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's talk about Usain being in tip top shape and showing up like that was the finals. Luca just came out on the Mind the Game podcast and said that when he got to la, I seen this guy do something never see before. He said he was there 10 hours before the game. He said I was getting there and he was already finished with his workout. Feels like I've heard that story a couple different times. And is your generation, like, kind of the last generation that was. Those types of dudes. Do younger generation guys pick it up from you? Like, how do you think that kind of works? And you obviously know LeBron very well. Has he always been that way? And what is your. Are you. I assume you're a very diligent worker as well. You didn't put up any shots today. I actually. Yikes. I put up some shots today. I think I. My jumper got better today.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Chris.

[Wayne Gretzky]

Yeah.

[Seamus Coleman]

I don't know, actually, when you get older, you actually, like, work out more. Right. So.

[Pat McAfee]

Takes longer.

[Seamus Coleman]

Yeah. I mean, we have shoot around at 10 o' clock. This past season, 7. 7:30am Every single day. Myself and Harrison Barnes is at the gym every single day. Right. It's just. It's part of your routine, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Do you drink your own urine? I don't know.

[Seamus Coleman]

Hell no.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what he did. That's what they did to get better. Not.

[Seamus Coleman]

Who told you that?

[Pat McAfee]

He just did.

[Chris Paul]

He just did this with Johnny. Johnny Damon. It's a whole thing.

[Seamus Coleman]

But I've heard. I've heard of that before.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo. Yeah, right here.

[Chris Paul]

Bas players, you know.

[Seamus Coleman]

To each his own.

[Chris Paul]

Oh, no, I don't. No judgment if you do. My pee is so hot.

[Johnny Damon]

I'm not drinking.

[Pat McAfee]

Why not? You put it in the fridge, freeze it.

[Chris Paul]

I would never cost a couple.

[Pat McAfee]

So what do you do? What do you do? You do acupuncture and all that? Do you have like a full.

[Seamus Coleman]

Yeah, I do sauna, cold tub, massage, diet, all this different type stuff, man. But the biggest thing I tell. Try to tell. You got like, keep moving, right? More than anything. Keep moving.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That's why you saw what you saw yesterday. I don't move a lot. I move. Will you work out forever? You think, you think you'll be a guy that wakes up every morning, works out forever?

[Seamus Coleman]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

You won't get like super lazy when you retire?

[Seamus Coleman]

No, I'm. There's a. A level of vanity that goes to it too. I'm. I'm outside a little bit too much, you know, I mean, I go. I go too many places. And you know what? You former athletes, right? Former athletes. When you meet other former athletes, right, and you see them and they. They don't look like they did. As soon as they walk away, what y' all say?

[Pat McAfee]

I'll be like, fast. Conor. Conor has a question, let himself go.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, Chris, another thing, thing. I. I feel as though came up last year a little bit was kind of the changing of how the NBA is getting more physical. How awesome it is now this year, the conversation throughout the playoffs, especially with Brunson and sga has been kind of the free throw artist type of it. You've been all NBA defense nine times. When you're playing someone who, you know, kind of flops, if you will, when you get a little physical with them, how do you kind of get. Get over that? Because we saw Jaden McDaniels at one point say like, all right, screw it. Like, I'm just going to push him as hard as I can to the ground. I know SGA is your guy and you guys have, you know, a great relationship, but that style of basketball as an old school player, does that bother you at all when you, when you see it happening? Just because of how different it is and how the old school guys look at, you know, the free throw artist as like. Yeah, see, this is why they wouldn't be able to play in the 90s and all that.

[Seamus Coleman]

The game has changed, right? And fortunately I've played long enough to be able to see it change. Somebody was showing up. I saw a playoff game on Instagram the other day from back when I first came in the league and the final scores were in the 70s and 80s. Like the game changes, right? And so guys are stronger, maybe faster or whatnot, learn new moves and all this stuff. So I think you just got to study and know what they like to do. Like I play against Shay too, and I know that he going to try to hit me with that forearm or whatnot. Right. But the same thing with Nemhardt. Y' all ever seen them Hart when he drive and he hit guys with that shoulder. There's a physicality of the game, but there's an awareness that you, you got a guard and you got to be ready for that, right? So it's tough. And this is why this is the best players in the world, night in and night out, trying to figure out how to curate points.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you got to change the game. You can't let the game change you. Ain't that right, Chris?

[Seamus Coleman]

Look at you.

[Pat McAfee]

Bars. Well said, Bars. I didn't make it up. That's been said before. Yeah, Shrek, definitely. We actually have a graphic for you to see, Chris, just so you could see what it could potentially look like next year. Wow. Wow.

[Chris Paul]

Potential. Another potential signing with Messi was up here.

[Pat McAfee]

Lou Messi, not Lionel Lou. And we're trying to get him to play for the United States of America too. Because he's lived in Miami for a while now. We think that should be fair. But Lou Messi a potential signing. I. There's a chance he gets a billion offer from Saudi, I guess. Oh, have you heard about that for tst?

[Seamus Coleman]

I ain't heard about that.

[Pat McAfee]

No. There's been a lot of conversation, a lot of soccer chatter. You know, I've been around it.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, him and.

[Pat McAfee]

And Lou Messi's Lionel Messi's contract is coming up.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't know what that was all about.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, I think there's late entry row Rumble.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh no.

[Boston Connor]

Someone.

[Pat McAfee]

So there's been a. Oh, no, there's been a player laying down here from the say Word FC team for the last few minutes. I'd say like 10, 10 minutes. I think there has been a group of people standing over there. Did not know that there was a player down in that group, but there has been a player down. Seemingly got injured. Coach during warm ups, seems to be.

[Boston Connor]

Sitting up, passed out, passed down, pass out.

[Pat McAfee]

A coach. We're getting word that a coach passed out on the field there during warm ups for say word. Fck. Yeah, definitely. It has been a. He didn't move. We did see him move though, right, Z? If we had to. He's up right now. Yeah, he's staying up. All right. All right. So we have. There was a while though. He was. You down?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, while you were giving a great answer. It was a great answer. I didn't listen to any of it. But the, the, the tone you were speaking seemed to be a good answer. I was looking.

[Seamus Coleman]

You are sick.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but I saw. I saw him move, Chris. I saw him move.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, he's up.

[Pat McAfee]

Moving around.

[AJ Hawk]

There we go.

[Seamus Coleman]

There we go.

[Pat McAfee]

That's scary stuff. You never know. You literally never know what it could be. Happy, he's okay. So you could potentially be on concave for next year. Good luck to you and all your decision making that you have to do.

[Seamus Coleman]

And I appreciate y' all and you.

[Pat McAfee]

You would like to make a prediction for the finals. We appreciate you doing that. Who.

[Seamus Coleman]

Who are you predicting?

[Pat McAfee]

Me. Pacers and six.

[Seamus Coleman]

You think so?

[Pat McAfee]

Pacers in six.

[Seamus Coleman]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

A.J. a.J.

[Chris Paul]

Pacers and six, bro.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Connor.

[Boston Connor]

Su and five.

[Pat McAfee]

Disgusting. Ty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Pacers seven.

[Pat McAfee]

Love that tone. Same Chris.

[Seamus Coleman]

Y' all contractually have to say that.

[Boston Connor]

I said. What are you talking about? I said thunder.

[Seamus Coleman]

No, he said, I don't know.

[AJ Hawk]

Do we want our food to get spinning?

[Pat McAfee]

He said thunder and five, quick series. He said, actually, your prediction. Chris falls.

[Seamus Coleman]

It's gonna be a good series.

[Pat McAfee]

Seven games. You think that's what you just said?

[AJ Hawk]

Good series.

[Seamus Coleman]

Said it's gonna be a good series.

[Pat McAfee]

Six games. He says, okay, great series would be seven. Got it.

[Boston Connor]

Smart.

[Pat McAfee]

Anything else? Who has more talent?

[Seamus Coleman]

You know, it's funny, honestly. And I'll tell you this, it's cool for guys to. To get a. Predictions and all that stuff like that. I always say this. I. I play like I'm. I still play.

[Pat McAfee]

Isn't it so stupid, the predictions thing? How are you supposed to know?

[Seamus Coleman]

No, it ain't even that. It's just that the way that I'm like built and orchestrating straight. It's hard for me to fool with you after I seen you say that you think somebody else is going to win.

[Wayne Gretzky]

That's, that's, that's.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You have no idea what's going to happen. First of all, we don't. When we make predictions, people care so much. If you were to give a prediction right there, Chris Paul hates the Pacers. Oh, yeah. It would have been immediately. Last thing here before we let you go and we appreciate your time. Adam Silver talked about a Team USA versus Team World concept that they're going to do for the All Star Game. I believe he was on Fox on.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I believe he was on Breakfast Ball.

[Pat McAfee]

Breakfast ball, Morning Ball. He. He said on there that this is something they've been thinking about. Obviously, a lot of players are interested in this. Do you think this will heighten the All Star Game? Because Pro bowl has a problem, too. We want the flag football, the NHL figured out with four nations. I think Adam Silver seeing that and saying, hey, there's a chance we can maybe capitalize on this. Do you think guys will care if Team World was to beat the Team USA's ass? Do you think that'll matter?

[Seamus Coleman]

I got a lot of thoughts and stuff on the All Star Game stuff. You know, that was news to me when I seen that too.

[Pat McAfee]

What are your thoughts on the All Star Game?

[Seamus Coleman]

I mean, it needs some shaping and some fixing. Hopefully this does it. What they tried last year, wasn't it?

[Johnny Damon]

You know what I mean?

[Pat McAfee]

I'd say that was on the same weekend as Four nations too, with Hawk.

[Seamus Coleman]

You know, a few years ago when it was in. You know, a few years ago when it was in Chicago. I don't know if that was 20. 20. 2021. What not. We took the, the model from the TBT and that was the first All Star Game with the target score.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seamus Coleman]

That was the first time we did All Star Game with that target score.

[Pat McAfee]

I believe in basketball it's called Elam Elam Ending. Elam Ending, I believe is the name of it. It's great. There's always a walk off.

[Seamus Coleman]

Exactly. So we did it in the All Star Game, the Chicago All Star Game.

[Pat McAfee]

Should that do that for USA World should have target score time.

[Seamus Coleman]

Absolutely.

[Boston Connor]

The worry, I know is just like any time it's an All Star Game, like Luka and Jokic make a point to just basically dick around, like, will guys actually try still? I mean, it's not just them.

[Seamus Coleman]

First and foremost, you just got to make sure that the guys, you know, really want to compete or whatnot. You got to have them play for something. You know, being at the union for years. Well, we took the money up. Right. We took the money up to a certain number. Right. So now the number might have to go up again.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Because Four nations get in there and negotiate it.

[Seamus Coleman]

That's.

[Wayne Gretzky]

That's.

[Seamus Coleman]

No, no, no, no.

[Pat McAfee]

That's for you to do.

[Seamus Coleman]

No, no, no.

[Boston Connor]

Four nations was just trophy. And guys were out for the entire season, like Matthew tkachuk and Charlie McAvoy. Both got hurt for the entire. The last thing they did in the regular season for hockey was play for their country. And then they were out until the playoffs.

[Pat McAfee]

They cared, Chris. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

That's why people are like, hey, they're comparing to Four Nations.

[Seamus Coleman]

Baseball doesn't do what's his name anymore, though. Do they like the winning team?

[Ty Schmidt]

World Series? Yeah. They got rid of that.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, Chris, we'll assume you'll figure it out. We appreciate you doing that. Good luck in your free agency journey, good luck in your basketball journey, good luck in your family journey, and good luck next year when you're playing for Conceifa. Okay. We need a goal out of you. Okay. If there's a wide open shot, we need you to put that in.

[Seamus Coleman]

I gotta. I gotta ask Mugler them. Is that in the bylaws? If I can. If I can play on the team.

[Pat McAfee]

The bylaws look good to me. Ladies and gentlemen, Chris Paul. Yeah, Chris.

[Seamus Coleman]

Appreciate y' all, man. Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

Absolutely.

[Boston Connor]

Hey, come to Boston. It'd be fun. Seriously, come.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude, why not? Hey, where are you thinking about going? Anywhere.

[Boston Connor]

We said spurs last year and then he went.

[Pat McAfee]

We're still live. We're still. Still alive. Are you going anywhere? Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

You do. That's a lie.

[Pat McAfee]

That feels like. Ladies and gentlemen joining us now. He'll be on Concave for next year unless he plays again. I mean, if.

[Boston Connor]

If he can cut it. Let's be real. There's a lot of good talent on concave.

[Pat McAfee]

There is. There was actually some talent from last year's team that acknowledged that there was a lot better talent this year and say, you know what? You can have my minutes. There's a lot better team here for concave.

[AJ Hawk]

That's a good team.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe Chris Paul be joining us. Our team would be great. A guaranteed dub.

[Boston Connor]

Amen.

[Pat McAfee]

If this next person that's joining us would join our team. He was pro soccer player, obviously, for 141cap. Wow. For the United States of America. He's a 2016 MLS cup champ with the Sounders, which they talk about.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. A lot of People say that's one of the best professional sports teams of all time.

[Pat McAfee]

He's tied with Landon Donovan for the most international goals at 57. We need him. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who is launching a brand new podcast with the Men in Blazers Media network called the Deuce. Ladies and gentlemen, Clinton.

[Clint Dempsey]

What's up? How's it going, Mr. Concap?

[Pat McAfee]

Concave. I have some respect. Clint. Jesus, we appreciate you joining us, man, and obviously we hope you'll get down here to TST in the future. It is a beautiful celebration of the sport that you were so damn great at for so long. Let's talk about you moving into the media world a little bit more here with the Deuce, with the Men in Blazers Media Network. When can we expect it? What's it going to be? And congratulations. This is awesome news for everybody.

[Clint Dempsey]

Appreciate it, man. Starting on the seventh, you know, I'm happy to be joining men in Blazers and the platform they've created and Raj, the energy he brings to the game. And yeah, covering the US as they have these friendlies go into the Gold cup, it's kind of a stressful time as we build towards the World cup with the performance we've had in the past. But yeah, I mean, it's a platform where you can just kind of keep it real and shoot people straight and hopefully people tune in and watch it.

[Pat McAfee]

You're one of the greatest United States soccer players of all time. You'll be in the Mount Rushmore conversation as Chris Paul just hucked some chips across the stage. Sorry about that. Shouts Chris Paul. Good pass, though. Still got it.

[Boston Connor]

Still got it.

[Pat McAfee]

Still got it. That was a good pass there. You're one of the greatest United States soccer players of all time. I grew up dreaming of being on the United States soccer team. You've won the Gold cup three times. You've had a lot of success. Our U.S. soccer team, our men's team, has not had a lot of success. That. That's just. This was supposed to be the generation in the era that was going to be great, too. What are your thoughts on the state of U.S. soccer and can we win this damn thing? We would like to win it all. We would like us to win it all. Is that ever possible or how long do you think?

[Clint Dempsey]

I mean, I think it's possible, but hey, you gotta look at the scenario we're in. I mean, we're last Copa America. I think we're the first host country to never get out of the group. So that was a failure. And then you have concacap Nations League semifinals where we lost to Panama and then we also lost to Canada in the third, fourth place game. And then for me, this kind of makes Gold cup important again. I mean, back when I was playing, there was a few Gold Cups where if you want it, you got to go to Confederations Cup. But for me, this is such a huge tournament. It's because to get this fan base back on board and get people, you know, believing again in this. In this US Team and what they can do, because you're never going to have moments like this or opportunities like this to have to play in a World cup in your. In your own country. You know what I mean? You saw what happened with 94, how it brought about the professional league of MLS. So it's a big opportunity. If we don't take advantage of it, man, it will be one of the biggest failures of all time.

[Pat McAfee]

Why would it be? Would it be because of the players? Would it be because of the system? Would it be because of the selection process? Like, what do you think is the thing that has held us back?

[Clint Dempsey]

Man, that's a great question. I think there's a few things. I think since COVID you have a situation where you have the same teams just playing each other too often. You have CONCACAF Nations League, got Gold cup, you got World cup qualifying, and you're just playing the same teams over and over. I think it'd be better if you kind of mix it up. Where you had Gold cup, then it was Nations League, was the next year, then another year would be like a Copa America, and then it makes it a little bit more prestigious not to have it back to back to back all the time, but and also give you opportunities to play against other countries and in their countries. I think that only helps you to get better. It gets people more excited about playing in those type of games. I think by playing, you know, each of you know, the same teams over and over and over, it kind of loses the hype and maybe makes people not to want to get called in or come in. But for me, it was always represent my country. I always dreamed about playing for my country, playing in World cup as a kid, that's what I pray to God at night for. So, like, anytime there was a tournament, if I could walk, man, you know I was going to be there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're a dog. I feel like we need more of yous nowadays. Hopefully we'll be able to get that under Coach Ponch, who I assume one of the boys is going to ask about you. Talk about, you know, too many of similar opponents and maybe people lose an interest. I think there's a lot of interest in the MLS right now, maybe more so than ever. I remember when Beckham was brought in, given a percentage of the league and a future team, and I forget how many millions he was making. Like every two days, it was a massive ordeal. It was supposed to swing the MLS into superstardom. Kind of happened. Obviously, Beckham sold places out, but with Messi coming over, every stadium was sold out. The Apple deal obviously was a big one for the league. Who knows what the future looks like in either of those? You're a former MLS cup champ. Do you like where the MLS is? You've obviously played around the world. Is it good enough? Should we talk shit for the MLS more for it being a good league, or what are your thoughts on the home domestic league here?

[Clint Dempsey]

I would say yes and no. I would say yes. It's bigger than it's ever been. Players are making more money than they've made in the past. It's something that's being covered more often. You talk about Messi and what he's able to do in terms of bringing mainstream America to watching soccer here, because in the past, it seemed like it was every four years when a World cup happens that soccer would kind of move the needle. And where Messi coming to enter Miami, he is the needle. He moves that every season that he's around. And the popularity that gets to it. The only thing that maybe I worry about a little bit is, like, the young American that's developing and whether or not we're finding these creative players that are. That are able to take risks, take people on and be into the attack. Or is it going to more South American type players? Back in the. In the days, you seem like more. There was more young guys that were attacking, players that were American, that were making the All Star. And I'm just not really seeing that much lately.

[Pat McAfee]

You think we've lost our pizzazz? Used to take dudes on feet. Yeah, we want to.

[AJ Hawk]

The Gonigal.

[Clint Dempsey]

I'd like to see more of it, man. I like to see people being creative and taking people on. If you don't have someone to pass through, like trying to create something, make something happen. I think too many times people play safe, they play back, they play sideways just to keep the ball. And there's just certain times, hey, you.

[Seamus Coleman]

Need to pull the trigger.

[Clint Dempsey]

You need to get the ball to Pat McAfee. Get that cross into gorilla.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, come on. Amen, Clint. Amen. Hey, we need to have one here.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, why not think about having one.

[Pat McAfee]

Why not have one?

[Boston Connor]

Find the boots.

[Pat McAfee]

Find the boots. RIP1. A lot of the boys are getting baptized in soccer here. Getting baptized in soccer here. There's a 14 year old from Philadelphia, Kevin Sullivan. Kevin, so have you heard about this dude? Have you talked to this guy? They're already shipping him out of the country. It's like, what are we doing? Why don't we let this guy play? Why don't we in that like the type of player that we should be, you know, trying to make a great. Like, I don't know. How do you feel about the treatment of.

[Clint Dempsey]

I mean, I think wherever you're going to play is the most important thing. Wherever you're going to go and get the best and get the best opportunity to get games. If you're not getting in games, then what's the point for sitting on the bench? So I think there's a way that you just got to make the right decisions on the teams you go to. Are they playing the style of play that you like to play? Are they allowing you to express yourself, or are they trying to change your game? I mean, it's all. It's kind of like picking a college, you know what I mean? You got to figure out what's going to be the right fit for you, and hopefully he makes the right decision. But I think there's a balance. You can have players that are going to Europe being young and competing at the best clubs, but at the same time, there's some people that got to go the MLS route first. And I was one of those guys. I, I paid my way in mls, broke into the national team, and then through doing well in World Cups, it got me to go to Europe and play in the Premier League.

[Pat McAfee]

One of the first ever out of the United States of America. Obviously, Tim Howard had quite a run in the Premier League. You as well, Clint Dempsey. Us young lads looked up to you. Tone has a question for you.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, that's kind of what my, my question was around. It feels like the, the lure, the prestige of the Premier League and playing over in Europe is like the young star, young US Stars are going over there and just sitting on the bench feels like Christian at this point is really the only one who's going over there and getting meaningful minutes. Like, do you think the US Team would fare better if the US Talent stayed home more and just got more playing time and kind of were more of a cohesive unit?

[Clint Dempsey]

I think it's a mix Right. You need people that are staying home, getting those regular minutes for their club. But we got Anthony Robinson, Tyler Adams and Christian and West McKinney, who are doing well in Europe. But it's also picking the right teams, picking the right leagues. You know, I like what Holland has there in terms of playing for, like, an Ajax or psb. It's a place that you can kind of go there and develop, or if you're able to go to Portugal, play with, like, FC Porto or Benfica. You know, teams like this that have a history of producing young, talented players. I mean, getting the opportunity, like in Dortmund as well, in the Bundesliga, where you've seen Christian kind of come through, it looked real bright, but, you know, picked up some injuries. But I think you got to have a mix.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm eating chips right now, so I apologize for being disrespectful. But, Clint, we need you down here at tst. Will you play for our team next year?

[Clint Dempsey]

Hey, you never know, man. Hey, have Mike Grella hit me up.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you still got it? You play it all?

[Clint Dempsey]

I play a little bit with my kids, but, I mean, I could go out there, maybe put, you know, do a little something, be a super sub.

[Pat McAfee]

You never walk on that team, Clint. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Hit him up because he's gonna take his.

[Clint Dempsey]

Let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. There it is. Okay. You nailed it. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, one of the greatest of all time, the host of the Deuce from the Men in Blazers media network. And next year, a member of. Okay, ladies and gentlemen.

[Clint Dempsey]

Thank you. Appreciate you.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. Clint. Rapper as well. Yeah. Chess player, very talented.

[AJ Hawk]

He was a dog on the field, as he was.

[Pat McAfee]

He was. And he was. He wanted to try people.

[Boston Connor]

He made it cool.

[Ty Schmidt]

He made it fun to watch Team usa.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Then his raps weren't, like, corny.

[Ty Schmidt]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, oh, no. Clint Dempsey has come out with a song. I was very scared as a massive Clint Dempsey fan. I was like, don't. We don't need to be doing that. That. Then he listened to. It's like, oh, Clint Dempsey's got bars.

[Ty Schmidt]

Actually, name's right in the song Tread on this guy.

[Pat McAfee]

It was great on in for the soccer world. Seriously, I'm happy he's getting back into the. The media world. Him talking about just like Wayne talking about it is good for the sport. With the World cup coming around the concave pod. Clint Dempsey with the deuce feels like soccer's kind of back in it.

[Chris Paul]

Aj The US has to do well this World Cup. I mean, like, Clint Said every four years, World cup comes up, and it does kind of soccer does move the needle. These people become household names. Like, do we have those guys right now?

[Boston Connor]

Pulisic, I know you guys never.

[Chris Paul]

Are we counting on. Who are our marquee dudes for the US that we're focusing our marquee dudes?

[Boston Connor]

We're focused on Kavon Sullivan. Look, we talked to some former Team USA members yesterday, and I'll tell you what, I'm punting on the World cup next year. Word on the street is these boys are already tired. We were pretty worried about their mentality going into it. And sure, they got all the skill in the world, but. And I'm not gonna quote verbatim what they said, but look, you got a guy who's coaching the team who doesn't really want to be there.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Boston Connor]

You got players, he wants to be there. You got players that aren't the best in the country that don't want to play on the team. What we're calling a guy Captain America. Has Christian Pulisic ever even been a freaking captain of a team? I don't know, because I don't know about soccer. But what I do know is the. The vibes aren't high on this.

[Pat McAfee]

I disagree. We're finding our team.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's a little late to a game to be finding our team. The World Cup's right around the corner.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. Have you been doing your part? No. No.

[Boston Connor]

What's on our hats?

[AJ Hawk]

USA Baseball.

[Boston Connor]

The flag.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys haven't done your part at all.

[AJ Hawk]

Tell you what, if I think. What do you mean? Boots.

[Chris Paul]

You have.

[Pat McAfee]

Find the boots.

[AJ Hawk]

Punch does care, but if he does. And I saw a coach down in a lobby hotel this morning watching tape and trying to get better. That's a real.

[Pat McAfee]

You're talking about Coach Meola and Coach Tab Ramos. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Todd Ramos.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. So Todd Ramos, just real quick, I think he was the first ever draft pick of the mls. He's top two United States soccer player of all time. He's been coaching in multiple places. Him and Tony Meola, best friends. And he's our assistant, coached in the.

[Boston Connor]

World cup for Team USA when he. When they went on that run and beat Algeria.

[Pat McAfee]

Just so him coming and doing concave. So I thanked him like 10 different times.

[Boston Connor]

So cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you for doing this, like, legitimately and also invested and has learned. Our players, they're watching film, they're trying to figure out seven on seven. It's a big opportunity. I think it's good for the sport here.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like it's big. Here's Tony Meola and Tab Ramos watching film this morning in the lobby of the hotel. Obviously they had a meeting. Bright eyed, bushy tailed. Let's go ahead 7:00am Tom, you and me will watch film of the team. Who's our guys? Who's not our guys? You think they watched my minute and a half last night?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, no doubt about it.

[Chris Paul]

We're eating breakfast right now.

[Boston Connor]

That's when they were just enjoying it going.

[AJ Hawk]

When I sat with them for a second they were watching the Bournemouth film. I don't think they had made it to last night's game yet.

[Pat McAfee]

Did not love the way we started in the Bournemouth 00kg affair. Very dominant. We gotta start taking more guys on. With that being said, it's been raining like the last hour. There's just people posted up out here. We appreciate you guys.

[Boston Connor]

Rock and roll.

[Pat McAfee]

It's beautiful down here in Cary, North Carolina. Let's go back to the truck. Bubba Gumpino is back there. Gumpy is one of the assistant coaches for Conceifa sc. Gumpy, how do you feel about the tournament and how the team's doing?

[AJ Hawk]

The squad is unbelievable this year. We are just on a different level from start to finish. Last night, I mean Chad Porch. Everybody's getting involved, everybody's getting touched. It's been an absolute joy to watch these boys.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it is good. I don't like that our assistant coach is gassing the boys up as much. Tony Meolo will come in and bury him.

[AJ Hawk]

I heard he was already was pissed at the start of the game last night.

[Pat McAfee]

He was not happy about our warm ups yesterday. So we had five balls for warm ups. Four of them got blasted into the woods. So we had one ball for warm ups our entire team. There's a lot of standing around, dicking around. Yeah, I didn't. I also did not love what I was watching on the team.

[Boston Connor]

And that's when you went and got ready like I guess they're gonna need me because he's gonna put my boots on.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm gonna go put my boots on. Tony Viola says I don't like anything that I just saw. Here's the starting lineup. Figure it out. Walks off. Love that he had like his moment. And the boys did figure it out.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, they answered the call. Five nothing, three nothing.

[Pat McAfee]

Lead at halftime. Five nothing total. And I, me and Foss blew two goals. So I think should have been seven.

[Boston Connor]

I don't know about you and Fossil but I do know what you're saying. A Lot lot of meat left on the bone.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, Reggae Rovers just had a. Oh, they're back. Highlight. Real goal. Oh they're back. The Reggae Rovers are now up three nothing. This was filthy. I don't know if we have the Here it is replay. Watch him. Ah. Gets the pass outside one on one with the goalie. What are you going to do with it Croy?

[Ty Schmidt]

God, that was genius.

[AJ Hawk]

That's a Reggae Rovers.

[Ty Schmidt]

You want to talk about teams who just know how to put boot on.

[AJ Hawk]

Ball.

[Pat McAfee]

Into the back of the. We'll be off tomorrow. These are our. This is our last show of the week. We'll be back Monday live with a full overreaction of everything. Oh yeah. Including tonight's NBA finals starting with the Pacers traveling to Oklahoma City is nine and a half point dogs last night Oilers Panthers dropped puck for the NHL finals. Let's do a full game highlight of that because people need to understand that last night's game was electrifying from beginning all the way to the end. Let's go. One minute into the game Kapanen gets at the dry Sidle. Go Rosso. One zip at home. Edmonton's upside down. Will they be able to hold on to that lead for a long time? Will they be able to ride the momentum of all of Edmonton? 10 minutes later Florida Panthers Sam Bennett puts one home Carter Verheagy in Tachuk with the assists 11 game. All of a sudden we have a tie puck. All of a sudden what happens later in the first two minutes later Florida Panthers go on a run. Another goal. 21 Brad Marshawn within his filthy pass from Nate Schmidt. Top drawer. Two one Florida Panthers. Now what will happen? Will Edmonton answer? Bennett puts the Panthers up 31 with his second goal. Another filthy saucer pass. He goes mid net. 3 1. Is this over? The Florida Panthers gonna go on a run. Clap bomb from Albertson. Listen, this seemed like one that Bob should have stopped but this thing was going on 175 miles per hour. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

A bit of a screen.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Clap bomb in there. Arvidson goal. Then let's go to Echol ties it up three three Right after Wayne Gretzky says Connor needs to go behind the net and find somebody who does this that it goes to overtime. Think it's going to maybe go to double overtime because how long the damn game was dry Sidle snapshot from Connor McDavid who has two assists on the night Edmonton takes the the lead. They are up 10 in a probable 7 game Stanley cup final series. All Right. We have our game at 5:30 here today. Then I am off to a place that I've been invited to go to that I don't think you're even allowed to say no to. But I'm certainly honored to get to. I'll be posting about it on my social medias at Pat McAfee show. From all the boys here, from everybody in the back, from the crowd that's been hanging out in the rain, from everybody here in Carrie, North, North Carolina, thank you so much for hanging out with us. Have the greatest weekend of all time. We will see you Monday. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Goodbye from Kerry. When you're on the go and it's time to refresh your energy, grab an ice cold Celsius where zero sugar, seven essential vitamins and proven ingredients meet pure refreshment. Unlike traditional energy drinks, each sip of Celsius is a perfect balance of flavor and function. So whether you're hitting the gym, the office or your next adventure, grab a Celsius at your local retailer or visit Celsius.com to learn more. If you want tools that stand the test of time without testing your wallet, Harbor Freight is the place for you. Expert engineers design and rigorously test Harbor Freight tools to bring you top quality. Whether your next project is big or small, Harbor Freight carries a wide selection, from hand tools to power tools to automotive tools and welding equipment. And with prices lower than other top.

[Boston Connor]

Brands, but with the same top quality.

[Pat McAfee]

You'Re getting more for your money at Harbor Freight. There are over 1,500 Harbor Freight stores in the U.S. so come see for yourself. Whatever you do, do it for less at Harbor Freight. All right. That was good. All right.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well done.

[Pat McAfee]

Well done. Thank you, thank you, thank you. What's up, man? What's that? Shout out Reggae Rovers. Who? I can't hear you in the glass. What'd you say?

[Boston Connor]

I don't know. Gotta take the ear something. Reggae Rovers.

[Pat McAfee]

Shout out Reggae Rovers. Hey. Thank you, man. Good game. Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

Was he not listening?

[Pat McAfee]

And he just walks on the field. I love that guy's moxie. Love his swag. First half, three nothing. Reggae Rovers over say word. Fc. Over fc.

[Boston Connor]

Last game, I think.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, maybe say word.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure looks like a good team.

[Boston Connor]

I think it's their last game.

[Chris Paul]

Can you go two and one and still not advance?

[Pat McAfee]

No, no.

[Chris Paul]

So if you went two out of three, you're going?

[Pat McAfee]

I think so. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

You're moving on.

[Chris Paul]

But you could go 1 and 2. If you do lose by A little bit.

[Pat McAfee]

I think they take top three. They take top three from a couple of the groups. Like we're in group F. They called it the group of Death. And turns out that the only death that was happening was from us to others.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes.

[Boston Connor]

Group of fun.

[Pat McAfee]

But Wrexham also 2 0. So I think, like, it depends on what your record is. They'll take top three from groups.

[Chris Paul]

How many in a group?

[Pat McAfee]

Four. Oh, that's it.

[Chris Paul]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

But not every group gets all the top three. Three. So if you're a one seed though, you get shitty third place team from other group. So really want to win your group. So like tonight against Rexam is a very important game because in knockout round, you would like to play a team that is not as good as somebody else. Because once you get to elimination rounds, it's target score time the entire game. You're in trouble. It's not actually, but it feels that way. I got you.

[Chris Paul]

You know, that'll be Saturday starts Friday.

[Boston Connor]

Friday.

[Chris Paul]

Friday starts Sudden death.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. One game per day. Friday Knockout run. Saturday Knockout run. Sunday Knockout Run. Championship on Monday. So you could potentially be in Cary, North Carolina for three weeks.

[Chris Paul]

Coach Gump's got a fight Tuesday morning.

[Pat McAfee]

6:10Am Tuesday morning. He's planning on pulling an all nighter if the boys win, as he should not 100% sure I'll be able to be here, especially with the invite that I received like last week hearing that we were going to be down in this part of the country. Also. Money in the bank on Saturday in Los Angeles is going to be electrified. Hell yeah. We got some WWE fans around here. Four letters, one word. Okay. There's a lot of years.

[Boston Connor]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

I respect that. Standing in the rain. Money in the bank is on Saturday. Then Monday night. Raw is in Phoenix on Monday. So there's a lot of things happening in my particular life before the championship. But the Concaver boys are locked in. Okay? They understand that they can win at all age.

[Boston Connor]

They know.

[Chris Paul]

I saw the Indianapolis Outlaw early this morning in the lobby.

[Pat McAfee]

Saunter.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, I saw him too.

[Pat McAfee]

Killing it. He's got an infant. He said Grella's playing golf.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he's going to hit some balls.

[Pat McAfee]

He's a great golfer. And whatever cools the mind, whatever frees your spirit to play your best ball. Especially at 5:30 against Wrexham with McElhenney and Reynolds.

[AJ Hawk]

Boys.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we're gonna play well. We got to show up tonight.

[Ty Schmidt]

We saw, you know, Cap, the old Firm zat was eating breakfast with black boots and Water Bug. So obviously Everyone is Black Boots is Mario Alvarez.

[Pat McAfee]

He's Arena League boy. Water Bug is Pacheco. Arena League guy.

[Boston Connor]

We also told Tony and coach ramos, hey, first two games are fun. I think we figured out the 11 we need. Right. Going forward, I think we seven on seven, of course. But we can knock some guys out. You know the rotation. This 11 man rotation now.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, it's like tonight. I think we need to make sure Ledesma's healthy.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, no doubt about it.

[Pat McAfee]

He had a little.

[AJ Hawk]

He had a yesterday.

[Pat McAfee]

He had a little hammy yesterday. He said it was a cramp. Had a little general soreness. That's always scary. He'll play. He'll play.

[Boston Connor]

He doesn't even play that much.

[Pat McAfee]

He's unbelievable.

[Wayne Gretzky]

So.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Porch. Unbelievable.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Meat still unbelievable.

[Boston Connor]

Rugs.

[Pat McAfee]

Ruggles. Awesome. Yeah. He was. He. He was going to fight a guy.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, he was talking a lot of junk.

[Pat McAfee]

Justin Miram. Here's Ruggles.

[Ty Schmidt]

Give me that absolute firecracker.

[Pat McAfee]

Absolutely. And then he goes. It does the nice little heel toe. Oh, I forget what this was. Remember this? Had a run.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

This dance had a run.

[AJ Hawk]

Victor, provider of happiness.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't think that's a salsa. I believe that's a. What's that Is.

[AJ Hawk]

But mirror is Miriam the provider of happiness.

[Pat McAfee]

Miriam is a dog. Got a chance to hang out with him for a couple hours last night. He is hilarious. He also started a war about 15 seconds after Brek Shea got fouled by somebody. And then a guy stood over Brek Shea. Miriam felt obligated to toe poke a ball into the guy's balls. It was like 15, 20 seconds late. It was right in front of me. I watched. Great shot too. And then that started a fight. Brek Shea obviously goes in there. That's what our concaver boys are about. Absolutely. What do you want to talk about? Fit in the culture too. Justin Miram has really fit the concave culture.

[AJ Hawk]

Really has.

[Pat McAfee]

More than maybe anybody in the the history of concave to a T. Yeah, he's in there.

[Boston Connor]

H. And in another T. What's that? Team culture.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Team high culture.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That is our thing. He was outed by a couple people, I think a few different times for what his profession is off the pitch. But it's legal and he's awesome.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's get out of here. Let's let these people get out of the rain store. Let's prepare for an incredible week where I'm headed. I don't know how many people get invited to go do.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't think not many.

[Boston Connor]

I don't think yeah, damn near anybody gets.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't think it's really a thing. Say word fc it's pretty insane to think about this morning I woke up like thinking this is the first time where I'm like, okay, tonight I'm headed to this place. Yeah, this is tomorrow that I don't think a lot of people really get to go to. And I was like, what? What should my mindset be going in there? Open minded, Pump to follow.

[Boston Connor]

Like pump to see what you're bring a fit.

[AJ Hawk]

You bring a special fit for it.

[Pat McAfee]

No. So every time I ask what I'm supposed to wear cuz I don't want to be an they said just wear whatever you wear. I'm like, do you know what I wear? I'm like, I don't think you know what I wear.

[Chris Paul]

They're going to give you something to wear. That's what that means.

[Boston Connor]

They'll definitely give you some stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

You think so Def.

[Boston Connor]

They definitely will. But I don't know if it'll be at the beginning or the end.

[Pat McAfee]

All I got to say is Ura, my friend.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

And it is an honor, aj, thank you for traveling down here. Final thoughts on Carry, North Carolina and tst.

[Chris Paul]

Well, I mean it's clear that you guys have the top squad. The Con Cafe for boys. How do you get ever score on these guys? Honestly? I told you this morning with Z back here and all the boys like you can't even have a shot at them. You guys have pitched two shutouts already.

[Pat McAfee]

So n. We gave up a goal in a first game.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, it's all right.

[Pat McAfee]

It didn't even matter. Doesn't matter.

[AJ Hawk]

Actually it was, it was an extra time that shouldn't have been extra time. So it was in the 42nd minute.

[Boston Connor]

What are we playing? 50 minutes?

[Seamus Coleman]

Absolute shite.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. We are the biggest team out here by far. No questions asked. It's part of our culture. You know, you got to get in where you fit in. Where you fit in here is you got to be big. We got some small guys. Pacheco a little smaller, but he'll get rolling.

[Boston Connor]

He fights though.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we got a lot of elbows.

[AJ Hawk]

Gordo.

[Pat McAfee]

Gordo will fight.

[Boston Connor]

Gordo laid someone out yesterday.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Gordo cross body check.

[Chris Paul]

There's so much like you guys knock so many people down. It doesn't always get cold.

[Pat McAfee]

What you're allowed to do, you're allowed shoulder. You're allowed sock.

[Chris Paul]

I did see the ref do this shoulder. So I can just run as fast as I can and blast you with.

[Pat McAfee]

My shoulder as long as you're near the ball.

[Chris Paul]

But I can't. What? I just can't extend my forearm.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's a push.

[AJ Hawk]

You got to go shoulder.

[Boston Connor]

Just like basketball.

[Chris Paul]

Okay. This is great.

[Pat McAfee]

If you're running next, somebody balls there, you can shoulder.

[Chris Paul]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

If you go to leverage and lift, probably a penalty.

[Chris Paul]

I can keep my little chicken wing tucked in and. Okay.

[Wayne Gretzky]

I love it.

[Pat McAfee]

Now there's a chance they will flop and they will call it.

[Chris Paul]

Okay. Okay. So it's similar to lacrosse. Like, if I blast somebody in lacrosse, at least sixth grade that I watch, if the kid falls, they're gonna. It's gonna be a penalty if he doesn't fall. I'm good.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, kind of. But these refs will pass up on some dives. They will.

[Chris Paul]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

And then people get pissed because they won't pass up on other ones.

[Chris Paul]

A few unbelievable dives.

[Pat McAfee]

All we're looking for is consistency. Yeah. That's all we're looking for here. It sounds like Johnny Damon thinks the refs really screwed them. It is coming.

[Chris Paul]

That was a one score loss.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, it is poor.

[Chris Paul]

We had to look at it.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, boys, your thoughts on soccer. Toxic table.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I mean, I said it the first day we were here. It shocked me. Kind of took me back a little bit that red boots didn't have his red boots on. And then I saw the way Mario Alvarez was playing out here with the black boots. You know, hey, listen, I wish we could stick around through Monday. That's just not feasible. Not something I'm gonna be able to do. But I'll be locked in and making sure that the boys bring the title home. I know they will. I know coach has been espn. Yeah, on espn. I know coach has been up late, late night, Drawn up set pieces, drawn up different plays, you know, making sure that our rotation is locked and loaded. So I. I mean, it's joy every time we come down here. And it does seem like this thing has gotten much bigger than it even was last year. Like, this is. This is a great tournament.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Exponentially better. That's what that. That's my big takeaway from.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you think it's just strictly where we're staying this year?

[Ty Schmidt]

That is a massive part of it.

[Boston Connor]

I think also the. The set being built. Massive part of it. Not thinking about what. Breaking down the set right after this, what that would entail. A massive part of it. But I think as a whole, you can kind of tell the logistics of the entire Thing and the amount of, you know, craze and buzz around it. Last year, I heard that, you know, couple people from the area, we're going to come check it out. Turns out when they did check it out on the Friday, Saturday night, a lot of people, they're expecting to come back tomorrow with all their friends. A lot of people. So it's not just like us who are kind of a part of it. It feels as though the town rally. Carrie. Have. Have kind of taken it on as their own as well. Except for the one restaurant, but it feels like they have kind of taken it on as their own.

[Pat McAfee]

We got a call from that restaurant.

[Boston Connor]

Yes, did.

[Pat McAfee]

But thank you for the call.

[Boston Connor]

What's done is done.

[Pat McAfee]

No, thank you for the horrendous experience.

[Boston Connor]

Bingo. But it's fantastic. I'm also glad that we understood what the game is coming into it. Last year, we had no idea. I mean, the team was kind of compiled with a bunch of, you know, big field players. Now we kind of understand what the game is. We're not learning the rules. It's a wonderful tournament. Not. Not being, you know, not exaggerating here. This week has been a thousand times better than last week. I just. I just have to.

[Pat McAfee]

Last year.

[Boston Connor]

Last year. Excuse me. Just have to hammer that home as well. And the guests.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, we had Wayne Gretzky on it. Yeah. John Damon watching the. Every team has gotten better, I think, too.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

It's also nice not seeing J.J. watt.

[Pat McAfee]

But I miss J.J. this year. I think we saw him last week.

[Boston Connor]

I think that's why.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're right. Tone your thoughts on this. This is your first time, right? Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

But yes didn't come last year in case lightning struck. I was back in the. The Thunderdome.

[Pat McAfee]

You were gonna host that show yourself. Yep.

[AJ Hawk]

Didn't want to do that. It's kind of nostalgic. Like you. I grew up playing 150 soccer games a year ago in soccer tournaments. Shout out, beadling. By the way, I don't know if you brought that or someone gave that to you. Boss got it for you. But just like how well run There's. What is there. There's 20 fields here, at least, and it's. There's a thousand games a day. How well run it is and how. How much everyone cares and, like, everyone's got sponsors and stuff like that. This is a really cool event. Very, very excited to come back every year.

[Boston Connor]

Close there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, you got the wet pitch.

[AJ Hawk]

Doesn't remind you of being young.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So I watched it Two years ago when Ruggles in Newtown won it. I was watching the finals. Ruggles actually has a, A little boy gets tossed up in the sky in the middle of this rainstorm. I appreciate that happening in the background there. I watched as Ruggles won a million dollars and I saw like a bunch of names that I grew up playing soccer with over there. Little boys getting tossed in the backup. I think you just do the background shot of tone in him and he's down. He's a heavier child. Looks to be a little bit older than a normal. Than a normal. I don't know if that guy's lats are dying off off or whatever. And he's back up. And he's back up. The boy is back up. The boy's back up.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is that Kid.

[Pat McAfee]

What's up, brother?

[Boston Connor]

No, that's okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Kid Rock. You think Kid Rock?

[Boston Connor]

No, we met, we met a guy last year or a kid who.

[Pat McAfee]

Good for that lad. Good for the, the guy that lifted him up has had great energy over there too, by the way. I, I think he was that big night out. That's the only way he could have that hoodie. Appreciate you coming through all of you. Thank you for representing, presenting. Would like to make an early announcement after this show ends, we will take a couple photos. Couple cannot be standing out here.

[Ty Schmidt]

Can't be getting soaked.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So let's have an organized, let's have a good idea of what's going to happen here. Let's take some photos. Let's have a good time. Let's make sure we're not. Did you see what happened yesterday?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Oh yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You brother. I, I, it was, you got screwed. It was awesome to meet everybody.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

But people had no idea who I was. Just saw people coming. There was just a thousand people. I don't know who you are is what they were saying to my face.

[AJ Hawk]

That's always.

[Pat McAfee]

But when you sign this, it's like, sure, I got nowhere to be. Got it. Okay. So with that being said, need to meet this group over here. Need to meet this over here. Need to meet this group up here. The lads up on the hill. I appreciate you so much. If we could set up a set.

[Ty Schmidt]

Up like almost like a buffet line.

[Pat McAfee]

If we could set up, if we could figure out it is right.

[Boston Connor]

One walk up the stairs, up, up.

[Pat McAfee]

The, up the, up the steps.

[Boston Connor]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

And then I head left and then we go.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I don't know.

[AJ Hawk]

It looks like lightning's coming in. Cap, this is insane.

[Johnny Damon]

No, it's not.

[Pat McAfee]

For the safety of everybody. Let's go, Mountaineers, guys. Got a Western genie flag up there. I appreciate the hell out of. He wanted me to start a war this morning. He wanted me to say a lot of things on camera and jump on things on camera. I appreciate where his head is at the TST people. I'd like to say thank you for the hospitality. TST people.

[Seamus Coleman]

It's not lying.

[AJ Hawk]

That's lightning, B. Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

To everybody in the truck. Great work back there, boys. To the entire ESPN production crew that set all this up, we can't thank you enough for. For showing up early in carry, making this go off without a hitch. Figuring it out. We'll also be live at the finals, game three and game four outside Gainbridge field house in Indianapolis, Indiana. Come join us if you can. If not, what a beautiful backdrop downtown. They will all be setting it up. So thank you to them. Thank you to Scott on the jib out of Louisiana. Scott out of Louisiana on the jib. He's a weapon, as are his jibs. Yeah, he's literally jib man. Jib man. He's got a couple other jibs that need a home. He says. Yeah.

[Clint Dempsey]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

He literally just walks around at least three of them things on him. Okay. He's got all the jibs, all the magic he could possibly need. He's from Louisiana. He does eat gator.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Have we had gator other than those gator nuggets? No.

[Ty Schmidt]

Just had the gator nuggets. Have not had any gator sent to the office.

[Pat McAfee]

We need to go down to a Scott gator hunt down there with potentially Governor Jeff L. Down. What's that?

[Boston Connor]

I like one of them Governor Jeff Landry gator hunts. More than one of them. Scott gator.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Boston Connor]

But I think Scott. Scott would also say, I mean, look, I ain't no governor. I'm just. I'm just a normal gator hunter.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you're a corporate. I'm not a corporate gator hunter.

[Boston Connor]

I'm a. I'm a premier gator hunter. And I think that's what GG does.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's pouring out there. I'm trying to figure out if we just go longer and wait for this to slow down before we go out there. Be very selfish of us to do that. Or if we just go ahead and grit and bear this thing and figure out an X. So I think what we're going to do is we're going to head up that stairs right there. We're going to head up that stairs. So I think if we could get along the. No, everybody's going to slip on the hill after that.

[Ty Schmidt]

That might be something that we just have to deal with.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. Hold on to the pool. Sometimes things happen. Look, what would he. No matter what, something. Something's gonna happen.

[Pat McAfee]

Somebody's gonna be pissed.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, we're at a soccer tournament. I assume most of these people have.

[Boston Connor]

Boots on, so could you jump over the fence?

[Pat McAfee]

That guy's got a. What's the state? Indiana, Alabama. Jones hat on right there. He looks like he's got it figured out. That's a good play right there. Tip of the cap to you, sir.

[Boston Connor]

Thumbs up.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's get the hell out of here. Have a great three day weekend. I'm gonna go experience something that I don't know how many humans get to experience, to be honest with you. I will document it all with the ball. I will be on my Instagram and X throughout it. I don't know if I should though. It feels like when they gave me permission to do that, that felt wrong as well.

[Boston Connor]

Well, read the room.

[Chris Paul]

They gave me permission though.

[Boston Connor]

Cuz you also just want to experience it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I want to be in there.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, you need to focus on.

[Pat McAfee]

There is a pretty heavy non vitamin law I guess right where I'm headed.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I can imagine.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah, I think you'll understand when I get there tomorrow. They've given me a heads up though.

[Chris Paul]

Like hey, just keep it right outside the perimeter.

[Pat McAfee]

That's where we're going to head, the perimeter.

[Boston Connor]

Dig a hole.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't be giving too many. Don't be giving too many things away.

[Chris Paul]

I could have said something else, but I did.

[Pat McAfee]

What would you have said?

[Chris Paul]

Start rhymes with no, no starts with a B.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, we're going to get out of here. Thank you all so much for allowing us to be a part of your lives. Have a great three day weekend. Concave plays at 5:30. Then if they. They got an elimination game tomorrow, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, we'll be following along. Money in the bank is Saturday. The NBA playoff. Our finals start tonight. The NHL Stanley cup finals continue. It should be a great weekend of sports. We're lucky as hell to do this. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Shout out to Cary, North Carolina, Team on me, Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.