PMS 2.0 1363 - The Florida Panthers Win Back-To-Back Stanley Cups, Adam Schefter, Florida Panthers GM Bill Zito, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show - PMS 2.0 1363

Date Released: June 18, 2025
Title: The Florida Panthers Win Back-To-Back Stanley Cups, Adam Schefter, Florida Panthers GM Bill Zito, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

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1. Florida Panthers Crowned Back-to-Back Stanley Cup Champions

The episode kicks off with an enthusiastic celebration of the Florida Panthers securing their second consecutive Stanley Cup, marking them as the eighth franchise in NHL history to achieve back-to-back championships. Host Pat McAfee warmly congratulates the team and its fans, highlighting the transformation of the Panthers into a modern-day dynasty.

Notable Quote:
Pat McAfee [00:00]:
"Ladies and gentlemen, last night the Florida Panthers completed the journey of a back-to-back Stanley Cup championship run for the 13th time and have become the eighth franchise to accomplish such a feat."

2. Player Celebrations and Injuries

Darius J. Butler shares his excitement, humorously noting the celebratory (and non-alcoholic) beer poured by Marshawn Butler. The conversation delves into Butler's perspective as a long-time Panthers fan witnessing the team's rise from underperformance to championship glory.

Notable Quote:
Darius J. Butler [01:30]:
"Over the last few years though, they have become a dynasty through and through. Two Stanley Cup championships, three straight finals, and a team that is locked and loaded to represent hockey how hockey is supposed to be played every single night."

3. Team Culture and GM Bill Zito's Insights

Bill Zito, the General Manager of the Florida Panthers, joins the show to discuss the team's winning culture. Zito emphasizes the importance of character, teamwork, and a fun environment in building a successful franchise. He highlights the team's camaraderie, such as pre-game dinners and community engagement, which contribute to their sustained success.

Notable Quote:
Bill Zito [72:56]:
"We asked them for an inordinate amount of work. But when we're not working, it's, you know, enjoy your life, have fun, enjoy each other. And we're blessed that we have guys who have bought in and truly are..."

4. Free Agency and Future Prospects

The discussion shifts to the challenges of retaining key free agents within the Panthers' roster. With three of the top five pending free agents in the NHL being Panthers players, Zito addresses the financial and strategic decisions necessary to maintain the team's championship lineage.

Notable Quote:
Pat McAfee [06:51]:
"We have some good news. We'll be talking to General Manager of the Florida Panthers, Bill Zito in about an hour or so, and I cannot wait to ask him a lot of questions about what he does going forward."

5. NBA Playoffs: Indianapolis Pacers vs. Oklahoma City Thunder

Pat McAfee and his co-hosts discuss the intense NBA playoff series between the Indianapolis Pacers and the Oklahoma City Thunder. The focus is on the potential game-deciding factors, including the availability of Pacers' star Tyrese Haliburton, whose participation remains a game-time decision due to calf soreness.

Notable Quote:
Ty Schmidt [07:05]:
"Maybe Bill can figure it out, but I mean the boys, the squad is stacked and everything that you've seen after just shows you who they are as family."

6. NFL Contract Negotiations: Trey Hendrickson and AJ Watt

The conversation turns to NFL contract negotiations, particularly focusing on Trey Hendrickson of the Cincinnati Bengals and AJ Watt of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Adam Schefter provides insights into the ongoing discussions, highlighting disagreements over contract value and length, which have led to Hendrickson's frustration.

Notable Quote:
Adam Schefter [44:40]:
"There is a disagreement over value. And I think most important, there’s also a disagreement on length here. Length of deal."

7. College World Series and Lacrosse Highlights

The hosts briefly touch upon the College World Series, emphasizing the upcoming championship games featuring Louisville and Coastal Carolina. Additionally, there’s a segment on lacrosse, praising the growing popularity and competitiveness of the sport in the Midwest.

Notable Quote:
Conner Marshy [56:13]:
"If Coastal Carolina wins this game, they are going to move on to the championship series."

8. Special Segment with Adam Schefter: Golf Coverage

Adam Schefter joins the show to discuss his new role as a golf reporter for the Travelers Championship in Connecticut. He shares his excitement about covering top golfers like Rory McIlroy and Keegan Bradley, reflecting on his previous experiences and future aspirations within the golf broadcasting arena.

Notable Quote:
Adam Schefter [38:10]:
"And so try some different things. And that’s all this is when I did the NBA sidelines, that was unbelievable."

9. WNBA Insights: Caitlin Clark’s Dominance and Team Dynamics

The episode delves into the WNBA, focusing on standout player Caitlin Clark. The hosts discuss her aggressive play style and interactions on the court, highlighting her role in pushing the team towards championship success. Additionally, Sophie Cunningham's defensive prowess is noted as a key asset for the Fever.

Notable Quote:
Pat McAfee [34:05]:
"Caitlin Clark is going to get treated in a certain way in this league for a long time. She's not a rookie anymore, okay. She's already proved herself."

10. Community Engagement and Charitable Initiatives

Bill Zito highlights the Panthers' charitable efforts, particularly the "Panthers on the Prowl" initiative supporting the American Cancer Society. He emphasizes the team's commitment to community involvement alongside their on-ice success.

Notable Quote:
Bill Zito [90:44]:
"We're trying to combine the hockey and the Panthers with the charitable element to try to raise money to fight cancer and then to get people something tangible that they can personalize and make it their own and then display them."

11. Closing Remarks and Upcoming Events

As the show wraps up, the hosts reflect on the day's discussions, congratulate all the involved parties, and tease upcoming sports events, including the NBA Finals and the College World Series. They also mention giving away signed Topps cards to listeners as a special promotion.

Notable Quote:
Pat McAfee [144:34]:
"Tomorrow night, obviously, the Pacers take on Oklahoma City Thunder. And all eyes are on that to see if, you know, the NHL ended last night."

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Conclusion:
This episode of The Pat McAfee Show offers a comprehensive look into the Florida Panthers' historic back-to-back Stanley Cup victories, insights into team culture and future challenges, in-depth discussions on NBA and NFL playoffs, and highlights from other sports like golf and the WNBA. With interviews from key figures like Bill Zito and Adam Schefter, listeners gain a multifaceted perspective on current sports dynamics and upcoming events.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this back to back stanley cup chomps. June 18, 2025 this program begins now. Sports are happening and a champion has been re crowned. Ladies and gentlemen, last night the Florida Panthers completed the journey of a back to back Stanley cup championship run for the 13th time and have become the eighth franchise to accomplish such a feat. Congratulations to all the Florida Panthers fans and the Florida Panthers. Okay, Darius J. Butler's pouring a beer into Babylon here in celebratory of back to back. Obviously that would not be a celebratory beer. Of course not. Darius J. Butler here, nine year NFL vet, lifelong Florida Panther fan. And if you go back five, ten years from now, Florida Panthers were absolute shite. Nobody talked about that boy. Over the last few years though, they have become a dynasty through and through. Two Stanley cup championships, three straight finals, and a team that is locked and loaded to represent hockey how hockey is supposed to be played every single night that they step onto the ice. So many stars, so many studs and a guy in the net that you never put a question mark next to. Congratulations to the Florida Panthers becoming an official dynasty down there. And the elbow room has been popping off just like Darius J. Butler has been all morning walking around with this particular tarpon.

[Darius J. Butler]

Hey, great, great time to have one. You mentioned five, six years ago, that.

[Pat McAfee]

Is not water or pop, that is beer. That is gold.

[Darius J. Butler]

So apple juice maybe. But yeah, you mentioned five, six years ago. I remember growing up being in elementary school, middle school and you get like the honor roll. You get a little, you know, coupons. Get two, four tickets to the Panthers game, you know, get some a publix, get a pub sub, maybe get a couple Panthers tickets on the way out. So Barry Zito and the boys have built down there back to back champions. You know, been in the Stanley cup final three times in a row. I mean unbelievable. Shout out to the last everybody that.

[Pat McAfee]

Who'S that Scary Barry, Scary Berry's guy that runs the facility.

[Darius J. Butler]

I'm sorry, Bill Z though.

[Pat McAfee]

God damn it.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, but everybody down in the Elbow room celebrating for you, for all the last down in South Florida. Here we go.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep. To the head we go. Congrats to the Panthers.

[AJ Hawk]

And full beer in that thing.

[Pat McAfee]

That'd be there in spirit.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's what it's all about.

[Pat McAfee]

You're there in mindset.

[Darius J. Butler]

I'm on a beach.

[Pat McAfee]

You're there in sobriety. Yes. Stanley cup is going to be taken into the ocean and Stanley cup is going to be taken onto a beach. And the Stanley cup is going to be dumping beers off the top of the Elbow Room for the next foreseeable months. As you look in the summer, we currently have a live shot from the patio cam down there at the Elbow Room. Obviously the place is packed out outside, it spills into the streets. Everybody down there is having a blast. Enjoying being the state of hockey back to back Stanley cup championships is obviously incredibly difficult to do. A lot of people say you gotta get lucky with injuries. But then we learn afterwards that their stud, Matthew Tkachuk, the man who represents what American hockey is all about, hell yeah. Dog dawg, guy who's been good to our program, has come on our show and chit, chatted about the culture down there, had a chance to get interviewed after winning his second straight Stanley cup. And this is what he had to talk about is an update on how his life has been since the four Nations.

[Conner Marshy]

Basically, I, I tore my adductor off the bone and then had some hernia.

[Pat McAfee]

Thing and all on the same side.

[Conner Marshy]

And wanted to throw in the towel.

[Pat McAfee]

A bunch of times. Sure.

[Conner Marshy]

I, I, I got to thank a lot of people, I mean for getting me healthy enough. I'm sure I wasn't the easiest to deal with. I mean my fiance did a great.

[Pat McAfee]

Job at the house on days where.

[Conner Marshy]

I probably wasn't the in the best.

[Pat McAfee]

Mood coming to the rank, the trainers.

[AJ Hawk]

Maybe when I wasn't in the best mood when pain.

[Conner Marshy]

I just owe them so much to doctors and I really didn't think I'd be playing and or at least playing to my capabilities. So the longer the playoffs went, the better I felt. And I owe that to the guys for giving me some wiggle room to feel good.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, just got a skate. Don't worry about the adductor that is ripped off the bone and then hernia on the same side. And then you think about that compounding on top of all the physical, other physical ailments I assume happening through a hockey season, you earned the right to have that particular moment in the middle of the change room as the entire place is going upside down to Pink Honeycomb. What a banger. Absolutely banger. Daughter Mackenzie loves that song by the way. I would like to thank Ms. Roan for that song because that was the first one me and my daughter really started dancing to. And now she has the rhythm of the beat every single day of her life. But they were celebrating with that afterwards, having the time of their lives because this is so much hard work, the hockey life. Okay. Obviously they Play a shit ton of games. Let's go to Nikki skates in the back. How many games in a regular season? 82. Then you play all the playoffs, best of seven series. Then you obviously have preseason, everything like that. So you got like, you know, 95, 100 games. Okay? And hockey is brutal. The ground does not give at all. You know, like, people talk about the surface of turf being hard. The old Astroturf is hard. Obviously grass can be hard, but at least there's a little bit of give. Even if it's on top of concrete, you put it there. Ice is just concrete. Okay? That is hard. That is what that is. The amount of follows the pads they have on. They have pads on. But it's if it's what kickers pads used to be like when they're walking out there, just not real pads. And then obviously they're playing with a puck that's getting shot, you know, 100 miles an hour and they're putting their face in front of it. So the amount of beating that these hockey players take throughout a season just playing hockey, let alone if there's something a little extraordinary like a big time shot, maybe a cross check to the teeth, maybe to the back, something like that, you just get your ass beat for 82 games during a regular season, then, oh, yeah, now it's the most important time of year. So for a team to be able to do that all season, then to be able to climb the mountain of the best seven series in the, some would say the most intense playoffs because of how fast it's going, how much is at stake, how much can change and how these barns get. These barns are outrageous. You think back to some of these teams that were involved, Carolina Hurricanes and the Kaniacs. I mean, that was a hell of a run. During this entire playoff run, there was none of the big six, the original six teams that were in the playoffs this year. So everybody wondered how it was going to go. Well, the hockey was fantastic. The stars showed up in a big way. Connor McDavid was all the way to the finals yet again. They lose yet again. Now people are saying McDavid needs to get the hell out of.

[Conner Marshy]

He's gone.

[AJ Hawk]

Maybe.

[Pat McAfee]

So many different storylines developed, and then one came to a beautiful. Maybe beginning this dynasty in Florida is seemingly going to be impossible to stop. They have a lot of free agents.

[Conner Marshy]

Yes, they do.

[Pat McAfee]

We have some good news. We'll be talking to general manager of the Florida Panthers, Bill Zito in about an hour or so, and I cannot wait to ask him A lot of questions about what he does going forward. Hey, let's live in a moment, okay. This guy used to be an agent, obviously used to be a coach for hockey. He loves the sport of hockey. Now he's general manager of a dynasty in the middle of it. And he got some big names that are up there. I think three of the top five pending free agents in the NHL are all Florida Panthers players. This group is very, very good together. Gonna have to lose some people. Obviously not gonna be able to pay everybody. How do they keep this going? Who knows? We shall see. What's that, Dee Buck?

[Darius J. Butler]

Maybe Bill can figure it out, but I mean the boys, the squad is stacked and everything that you've seen after just shows you who they are as family like. And I love like every team kind of does their own thing when they win the Stanley Cup. Obviously it starts out with the captain getting out there, but them passing that thing off to all of the first time winners of the of a cup. Regardless of what role they played on the team, how much time they played. Some guys didn't even play for them to get in. Obviously it gets to Marshall, who's won one before and then it goes around. It's just unbelievable moment. And that whole squad is that hopefully, hopefully Zito can bring the guys back. But it's tough. You know how it is, a lot of money.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know how I'll be able to pull it off, especially in the NHL. But maybe they will because they understand what they're in the middle of, which is chasing all time greatness when it comes to conversation. Let's go to the talks table obviously at Ty Schmidt at Boston, Conner Marshy goes down to Florida. Fits in perfectly for them, especially as Kachuk is out. Marcy was able to fill a role. Then he finally are all able to get back on the ice and it's magic immediately. Culture fit the way he plays. He's not scared to be a menace. And that's a team full of menaces that play hockey in a tough, menacing fashion, but they're also wildly skilled. He got a chance to play on a third line against maybe lesser opponents than he had when he was at the Boston Bruins. Wins a Cup immediately, his second ever Stanley Cup. You know, maybe this is just the beginning of his Florida Panther run. Is he going to be remembered forever as a Florida Panther because of how great he played in this particular postseason? What a time for Marshan to get traded to a team that's in the middle of a dynasty.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it's awesome. You know, when the Panthers first won the cup, those first few moments, you're pissed off. Okay, As a Bruins fan, not only just because hockey's done, but just the thought of Brad to what you just said, hey, people might only remember. Remember him as a Panther. I don't think that'll happen because it has occurred in the past where legendary Bruins have left. Ray Bourque wins the Stanley Cup. He actually brought it back to Boston. But I was so pumped for Marshy immediately. You know, you're kind of cursing the television, dropping names that probably don't need to be named, that have nothing to do with hockey. You know, I was still mad at some Knicks fans. I called them all pissed off. I'm pretty sure I said some bad things about John Mellencamp again last night.

[Pat McAfee]

We don't need to do that.

[AJ Hawk]

No, no, exactly. You don't, because then you remember, like, oh, it's so nice that Brad Marchand's able to do this, and he's one of those free agents. I think he does end up staying. There was a tweet about just the team in general, about how close they were, how, you know, on the road. Sometimes people get dinner at different points, but usually it was the entire team. Usually it was Bill Zito picking up the tab for the entire thing. I think something like that. Yeah. Ekblatt, who's another free agent, one of those top guys, is the one that kind of talked about that entire thing. But it does make sense for everyone to say, you know, Florida being the no state income tax, we talk about that with football, be how important that is. I'm sure with hockey, it's just the same. And then you think about, you know, the scene that they have right now in South Florida. That is the coolest place to win anything, whether that be, you know, a Stanley cup or Marshy with the cup.

[Pat McAfee]

Right now at Elbow Room. Live shot down there from Elbow Room.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, that is. It's unbelievable. And I don't know if you guys saw Marcy's family kind of to do the Players Tribune thing, and they, you know, we're leaving voicemails for Brad or. I don't know how they do that. If they send them to the Players Tribune, then they put together a video, like, just being pumped for Brad, especially after the disappointment the Bruins have had the last few years and how big of a part of the Bruins he will always be, having him, you know, lifting the cup. How sweet that is. It is. It's awesome. It stinks. If you're Not a Panthers fan, but it's cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Early reports are that there's already been a couple dings to Lordo in the overnight celebrations. There are some shots at 1:30am Of Ryan, I believe Barky Barkov, captain, goes onto the ice and lifts up the cup alongside the arena employees. There's been a lot of celebrating, obviously. We just saw Marshy out there at. Yeah. 1:35. Barkov brought Stanley cup back out to the ice and he's celebrating with you. Yeah, yeah. Who knows how the suite is, but that's an entire building operation. I think last time we talked about two people in the Florida Panthers organization after they won the Stanley cup, they're talking about how the entire building counts. And it's like when you talk about culture, they got it. Yeah. You know, you talk about going out to dinner and 99% of the time, Bill Zito picked up the check. We need to check what that does with a salary. Capsburgh Penguins fans have some questions, but with that being said, your GM is paying for your guys meals. As you're all eating out together at this professional level, it's like that's what you're looking. You're trying to bottle that as much as you can. And whenever. It's a lot of the, like, I saw a Dairy Queen trip too, I believe was reported about how they on the road, they all went to Dairy Queen together, then they lost or something. They were like, you know what, we need to maybe do this at home as well. So they all went, went to Dairy Queen. It's like they all live in the same area of town. They all do the same thing. They're all enjoying warm weather and being on the beach like 35 minutes away from here as Foxy's computer rings, I believe. And yep, yep, yep. That was. That is what it was. They're living like a great community life down there now. Business is going to get in the way because you win a Stanley cup, you're a part of a dynasty. Everybody wants your shit. You know, like, there's going to be some people that are going to offer a lot of money, I assume, to some of these guys, because they're going to want whatever that is in their building. Will they be able to sell the future down there in Florida? I have no idea. But I do know Sam Bennett's back.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And this guy won the Con Smythe. He was the favorite through this entire thing.

[AJ Hawk]

He's free. He's one of the free agents.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, it would chant eight more years.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

Oh, no way. They're gonna let him go.

[Pat McAfee]

So the future's gonna be good. The future's gonna be good. Sam Bennett's gone. Marshy potentially leaving their saint act. BL Ain't going nowhere. Just. I'm telling you, though, this is a lot of work for Bill Z to have to do this offseason, and it sucks that we're looking ahead already because how great they were. But it's like Sam Bennett with 15 goals in the postseason. They said he was the odds on favor to win a Con Smythe. Brad Marchand made a run at it. They're late because how great he was. And obviously the whole team is incredible. But it's like, what a. What a run by a group. Coach Mo afterwards was asked, you have been on the record as saying this is the most talented team and your favorite team you've ever been around. And it looked like he didn't want to say his favorite team because obviously all your former players listening, and he said that, but he said, this is by far the talented team and the tightest team that I've ever had. What a beautiful thing. Especially when you're already been to the top of the mountain. You have that type of culture in place. It's. That's going to be tough to. To emulate. If you're anybody else in the league right now, you got to be hoping that Bill Zito can't get the deal deals done with these guys. And if he is able to. And it's like, how long can this go? It feels like they're very, very, very ready for the run.

[AJ Hawk]

It.

[Ty Schmidt]

It does look like. Because, I mean, you look at Marshy's 30, going to be 38. Like, does he really want to go to a new team, a different team game, a worse team and try to win there? Or would he rather just, you know, take whatever deal the Panthers can give him and try to go on a run to end his career and potentially get into the NHL hall of Fame? And then, yeah, I mean, Sam Bennett's the one.

[AJ Hawk]

He's.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's 28 years old. He's the one who's gonna get, you know, the biggest price tag. But if, like, when you. We talk about this all the time in. In the NFL, Florida, that state tax is a real thing. Like, there's. There's gonna be a lot of teams that can't compete with that in that situation. So there's a chance these. All these boys stay together.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, there's a lifestyle, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Go golf. You know, do you think I mean.

[Pat McAfee]

Look, this is tampering.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, no, no, no. I mean everything they're saying is, is, is basically recruiting as well the pitchers. I mean it's just part of it. It's real. You just telling the story. But you talk about the, the, the talent and like the culture, how much they love each other is one thing. Obviously you need the talent as well. But you mentioned Sam Bennett. Kind of been the odds on favorite. Like it was like four guys that could have realistically won it. Obviously Marshy Bobby in net. He's been all world pretty much the whole run throughout. Rhino, obviously he wasn't gonna win it, but Ryno in the closing game like so you talk about depth. Seth Jones coming over from Chicago, fitting right in. I mean this is unbelievable. These guys done from the, from the ownership. Obviously it starts with ownership, gm, head coach, and then the whole, the whole squad.

[Pat McAfee]

Man, I thought about Rhino at that hat trick last night. People at the Stanley Cup Final like I. This is a good hat.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, sure, but, but, but got a, got a new 2025 Stanley cup champion.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're right. Right. Replace. Throw that thing out there. What a moment in the Stanley Cup Final, having a hat trick. That is the way they've been celebrating. I mean there's more videos coming out of the elbow Room, obviously dumping beer. I mean the South Florida as a Pittsburgh person, Pittsburgh Penguins person. When South Florida wins a title, it's very easy to just say hockey. They're not. It's too, too warm down. You guys don't even got ice. Don't want to hear it. You know, it's hard not to just say that. Then you watch the way they act. Then you watch the way the team plays. Then you watch how the fans react to how the team plays, which is a hard nosed style. It's like the team and the fans go hand in hand. Like the fans love that that's how they play. And it's like they got some dogs down there. And I think their fan base obviously only going to continue to grow if you continue to win. Now speaking of continuing to win, we need the Pacers to do that because the NHL is over now.

[Darius J. Butler]

It's a good run. It's a sports good run. Or this. Maybe next year Connor.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, maybe he goes to another team.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I thought he was talking about me and the Bruins. Now you're talking about McDavid going to the Bruins.

[Pat McAfee]

No, he was talking about McDavid.

[Ty Schmidt]

He needs Sid to teach him how to win.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, Connor McDavid.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, he should think about coming to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

[Conner Marshy]

I know he's very close to Stoner as well.

[AJ Hawk]

Is he?

[Pat McAfee]

You think he's going to Las Vegas? He might.

[Ty Schmidt]

He needs someone of his peers. Stoner is great, but he's not.

[Pat McAfee]

People in Edmonton right now are like, boys, please. We saw this with Wayne. Okay. We don't need this again.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, sorry.

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, yeah, you could finish the Gretzky story. To be honest, I wouldn't mind him at the Utah Hockey Club.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, the Mammoth.

[AJ Hawk]

Excuse me. I wouldn't mind him there either. I think that would be kind of cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Hockey town would love him. You guys got a team still. That's great. Yeah, you know, one of the most historic teams in the whole league. We could really use a Connor McDavid, who owned that team for a long time. You know, Mr. Pizza Pizza himself owned it when the team was very, very good. Father Ilitch, we love him. Rest in peace. Ever since he has passed away, it hasn't been quite the same in hockey town. That's why we need a Connor McDavid. Yeah, I think, you know, the Red Wings are certainly one of those teams that's been playing hockey a long time.

[Darius J. Butler]

Time version 6.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you for your service to hockey Detroit. Thank you. But I mean, no problem.

[Darius J. Butler]

Say Hockey town. I mean you go back to that live shot of elbow room.

[Pat McAfee]

That's hot. I mean hockey beats you guys.

[Darius J. Butler]

That is if you paying a little more to the east, you will see the Atlantic Ocean. But that.

[AJ Hawk]

That's why this one's so much cooler, man. Like you just mentioned it about the fans, like last year there was probably so many people who are like fans of the Panthers who probably hopped on the bandwagon towards the end in the playoffs like that. That's what happens when you know, a team is in your city and you're not really a fan of them. This year probably all those people followed the team the entire year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[AJ Hawk]

The amount of new Panthers fans that are like newly die hard, good for hockey. Yeah, great for hockey. And not like new bandwagon fans, like new genuine Florida Panthers fans being there. Like it just, just. It is sweet that they went back.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know if anybody's drinking out there that look like more of like a bomb pour of beer. Yeah, that's like a couple later. I guess there's a couple people just ah, boom. Yeah, I guess you get a couple drops. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Might be one guy with a huge.

[Darius J. Butler]

Evans out there, you know who's that.

[Pat McAfee]

Guy that DJ throws the cakes?

[AJ Hawk]

Steve Aoki. Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

Steve Aoki.

[Darius J. Butler]

Shows what.

[Pat McAfee]

Unbelievable.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he's a gun case.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, you never seen this?

[Pat McAfee]

Have you ever seen this guy?

[Darius J. Butler]

No. Know. I mean, I know who. I know.

[Pat McAfee]

Sheet cake or whatever I think is what it's called. It's this huge thing of cake and there's like a. A. Like a. I don't know, what's that thing you put down to like bake so it doesn't get stuck like a baking. Like a baking sheet underneath. And this guy with no handle, I don't think no handle. Just takes this thing and then he.

[AJ Hawk]

And we're talking like, dude, like that wall.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Like 15.

[Darius J. Butler]

What?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he doesn't miss 15 yards. Like I'm thinking first down.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Basketball.

[Pat McAfee]

Right. Bum bang right here. Boom. I don't know if he's still doing it.

[AJ Hawk]

I'm pretty sure he did actually. Funny enough, I think like last month I saw. I saw one of him doing it at a festival.

[Pat McAfee]

You've never seen this?

[Darius J. Butler]

No, I know. I know.

[Pat McAfee]

Steve.

[Darius J. Butler]

Smokey is. I've never seen this gimmick.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a great gimmick.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He was just busting out these sheet cakes too.

[Conner Marshy]

I mean, who wants them?

[AJ Hawk]

Someone on someone's shoulders.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. Duck hunter with the shoe.

[Darius J. Butler]

It'll be in my algo now.

[Pat McAfee]

Anyways, NHL. Yeah. Here he is. Hold on. No handles. Okay. You want it? Yup. You asked for it. Let me get you.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, shoot.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Look at that. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude.

[AJ Hawk]

Skill.

[Pat McAfee]

This was the video that I was actually referring to. Good find in the back, Zito. Yeah, that's. And you can get it. Pretty square shot too. That wasn't like a glass shot between the arms?

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, that's.

[AJ Hawk]

That's incredible.

[Darius J. Butler]

Some pretty.

[Pat McAfee]

And we'll see if he gets down to elbow room. Maybe toss some sheet cakes. As the boys continue to toss beer from the Stanley cup to the wild Panther nation that is now celebrating being back to back Stanley cup champs. But once again, a reminder. Cold one ice cold like the ice they were skating upon in the beers that they are drinking currently. The NHL is over. Yeah. Now all eyes are on tomorrow night here in Indianapolis, Indiana as the Indiana Pacers look to extend the series. They lose in the Oklahoma City Thunder are NBA champions. They win and we got a game seven down there in loud town Oklahoma City. All eyes are on that man. That is the biggest on the right side of the graphic. Tyrese Halliburton. It is being chatted about that he will be a gametime decision for the Indiana Pacers. Obviously he's the Olympic gold medalist. Some people are calling him the Moment, which I don't think is a nickname that will carry past this particular playoff run, although he has shown up for all of the moments up until this point. Incredibly clutch, even though he's voted the most overrated player in the league by people around the NBA. So this guy, friend of the program, absolute dog has changed the way this Pacers team and culture is in Indianapolis since getting traded here from Sacramento alongside Pascal Siakam who's been traded here from Toronto last year. Fit in perfectly, was an NBA all star, was the Eastern Conference finals mvp. Is a guy who would be a star on any team he played on. We got a great group here, but will Tyrese play or not? There's a calf soreness reported. There was an ankle before that reported. It's been a few games. It feels like if you've been watching and now obviously he has not played his best basketball. I think it is potentially difficult as a basketballer when your ankle and potential calf and all the other stuff I don't foot the reporting has all been like lower leg injury. We all see it though when he's running. I've sent messages of well wishes. Have not pried though. Do not want to get involved game time decision. If he can walk, he'll play. And that's why we love you. On the other side, there's Oklahoma City team. They seem we are fit, fresh and ready for the challenge.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

They're a very good ball club, aren't they? Yeah, they're good outfit. Yeah. And their fans, I think if they were to win, would appreciate the moment. And that parade.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh man.

[Conner Marshy]

Oh man.

[Pat McAfee]

Legit.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Think about the scenes that are. You remember Cleveland? Yeah. When Cleveland had the parade and it was like the whole state came out. I was in Indiana. I even thought about going out, man. Think about it. Over to Cleveland. This looks like this would be a good time. You know, fall Braun around and then they were shutting down flights into Cleveland. Do you remember that? They were shutting down transportation into Cleveland at one point because there are so many people flocking for the parade. The first ever shutting down transportation in there. So then you think about what Oklahoma City will do. We've already seen them at 3:30am at the FBOs on their flights back from finals game. I assume that entire state will show up for this Oklahoma City Thunder team.

[Darius J. Butler]

What's the population Oklahoma City?

[AJ Hawk]

20,000.

[Ty Schmidt]

You don't know the population of the team you're trying to take down?

[Pat McAfee]

That is an issue. Interesting thing I should know. I think they got 13 guys on the roster. That's what we're trying to beat. That's who we're trying to talk. Fifteen.

[Darius J. Butler]

Fifteen Big three and a little twelve from. Who said that?

[Dan Orlovsky]

You did.

[Pat McAfee]

Population of Oklahoma City, 702,767. That's of 2023. You never know.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay, sure.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of people updated since Indianapolis. Well, Indianapolis, 879. 293. Tulsa, Oklahoma, 411,894. So that's Tulsa and Oklahoma City. We know there's other cities out there.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Still water. We love those cities out there.

[AJ Hawk]

Boomer, Sooner land.

[Conner Marshy]

Norman.

[Pat McAfee]

Absolutely. Norman, Oklahoma. That place is awesome, huh?

[AJ Hawk]

What's the. What's the Oklahoma City?

[Conner Marshy]

Stillwater said that one.

[Pat McAfee]

Check that one off the list. Hey, that Oklahoma University of Oklahoma. That place was awesome. Yeah, that place was beautiful.

[AJ Hawk]

Great game, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Great game. That place was awesome. They have a stadium for their software softball team, who I am a big fan of.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I wanted to showcase a little bit better. Yeah. And it's as opposed to the complete opposite in that entire potential conversation piece. But that place was wild.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That fan. And now the Oklahoma City, you know, with the team that they have, they're young, ready to go. So you talk about, like, the Florida Panthers fans enjoying all year Oklahoma City all year, their fans have been like, hey, we're the team. Nobody's talking about us. We're the team. So the amount that they have to feel like fulfillment about what they've been saying about their team, I assume that parade and that celebration would be epic out there in Oklahoma.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. And they've already been through it. Like Kevin Durant, Russell Westbrook, they go to the finals, they have like a potential dynasty on their hands. And then those guys, they lose, I believe, to the Heatles and, you know, they end up blowing that team up eventually. And so they never get back to the finals. Like, they've been waiting for this for a long time. The reason, you know, Seattle wants a team so bad again with the supersonics is because they moved that team to Oklahoma City because Oklahoma City was such a great fan base. And now, you know, unfortunately, it looks like they are going to get the job done on Thursday and then think about that parade possibly on a Sunday or a Saturday. I mean, it's the summer, so it doesn't matter as much. But still, if no one's working, I assume they call off work.

[Pat McAfee]

Work.

[Conner Marshy]

Oh, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

In the state of Oklahoma, no matter what.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. The governor will come out and say that it's deemed a holiday or something like that. Like that's what it means. I don't think that gets talked about enough. You know, I don't think it gets talked about enough like how much these teams do for these cities. You know, it always comes up whenever there's a new stadium or a new arena that needs to be built and there's potential tax dollars going in. Once again, not a fan of that. If I was a billionaire, I would want to own my building. I wouldn't to want the state to own the building. But there is a business method that owners use that have state funds get used during taxes and everything like that. So it's always a debate on whether or not the state should send money to a new stadium or not. That is kind of the reason why teams leave. Usually that is the big talking point. So I feel like you should always own it. But whenever you like. Like when you get a team that is representing of the entire city, there's nothing that can bring or cultivate people more like these Indiana Pacers games. The people that are showing up at those games, the people that are outside of those games, everybody in our city, like, everybody in our city, like, surrounding areas, everybody in the state, even parts of Ohio and Illinois, it's just like it rallies everybody. The amount of business, obviously downtown, the amount of money and revenue that takes place, obviously immense. But just a sense of, like, pride that these smaller. Not that New York doesn't. I'm not saying that because I was in New York whenever everybody was in the streets, you feel it. But out here, it is like. It feels like it's an entire state versus everybody. Like, whenever Canada had Toronto on their run, they were like. It was the entire country of Canada was representing for Toronto. That's how it is. And I feel like Oklahoma is the same way. It's that entire area. Pull in for them. And Indiana's the same. And I hope Tyrese plays and I hope this thing goes seven. But if Oklahoma City wins this, which there is a chance, I. I don't want to, you know, there is a.

[Conner Marshy]

Chance that Oklahoma City wins.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

The whole thing.

[Pat McAfee]

I've come to the realization that there is a chance.

[Darius J. Butler]

What are the books?

[Pat McAfee]

That's the Oklahoma. Yeah. And it's changed. It's only gotten worse.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. The numbers as well.

[Pat McAfee]

And the sports books have been on, but it's like I've come to the realization that Spacers might not win.

[Ty Schmidt]

It was a good season.

[Darius J. Butler]

Got to play the game start over. Got to play.

[AJ Hawk]

You can celebrate this season at least. Last year we talked about how, you know, after the Eastern Conference finals, you can't even talk about it being a good run this year. You can talk about this Pacers team as legendary. They felt they fell short, but still.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, we got a game to play that way.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't like the way you. That's why I haven't even let it creep in. Because the way you guys are acting, I don't need you getting me into.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, who did we pick yesterday in the hockey game so we could get another hockey game in Game 6 7? The Oilers. And I'm not doing it again, okay? Because I came in here this morning. Bone that idiot. He. He goes, oh, I thought everyone was on the Oilers. I thought you were on the Oilers. It's like, no, I just want the Oilers to win for another game. I'm not doing that again. Okay? We all see the writing on the wall. It's over. I. I like.

[Bill Zito]

It's not over, man.

[Pat McAfee]

We got another game.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, you're not going that far.

[Pat McAfee]

But these Pacers have been good to.

[Conner Marshy]

Us, great to us. If Tyrese isn't somehow miraculously 90 to 95% come tomorrow.

[Pat McAfee]

90 to 95%? Nobody's 90 to 95% at this stage.

[Conner Marshy]

Exactly. So it would be a miracle. But that's. That's currently what they need.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[Conner Marshy]

They need that. We can't. We can't be trotting Tyrese out there at 60% and say, hey, go do.

[Ty Schmidt]

What you did all season when TE comes triple top.

[Conner Marshy]

Well, we know teach is going to be going 125%.

[AJ Hawk]

We need tricky Ricky to pull a rabbit out of his house.

[Pat McAfee]

That.

[AJ Hawk]

That's what we really.

[Pat McAfee]

And he does. He has and he does.

[Ty Schmidt]

Maybe we come out at 1 3.

[Pat McAfee]

1.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

Tomorrow night. Just trapping it, trapping the ball, trapping.

[AJ Hawk]

Maybe they come out and just walk off the court and say, you know what? No, we're not playing without our best player. What the.

[Pat McAfee]

And then nobody will ever know if they would have won.

[AJ Hawk]

Bingo. And then what?

[Conner Marshy]

Oh, it's not a bad idea.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's at home. That's going to be a tough move to do at home.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, but everyone will cheer for him. Like, they'll.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't think so.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, I don't think so.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't like the way what's happened. I think it was a two point game, boys. Come on. We can't give up. Thank you, Foxy. Foxy's on my Side. Yeah. Yes, sir. That's why I didn't. Yes, sir.

[AJ Hawk]

Yes, sir.

[Pat McAfee]

More Tony Bradley, please.

[Conner Marshy]

Wrong.

[AJ Hawk]

Bingo. Yeah. Let's get Tony Bradley running the point. Maybe Todd.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's talk about some what we. We have breaking news from the Elbow Room. Oh, Lordo is leaving the building. Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

You know where it's going now.

[Pat McAfee]

Matthew Kachak, I believe, has his golf cart outside of the Elbow Room to go back to the lifestyle that the Florida Panthers players are living. They just roll around from their house to different places on golf cart. Go to practice, get better. Go get on a golf cart, pick up the kids. Go. Go have some ice cream, go back to the house, maybe go golf a little bit, get a lift in, and then just put that on repeat for their entire life. That's what life is like as a Florida Panther.

[Conner Marshy]

It'd be tough not to want to be a part of this if you're coming back or if you're a free agent.

[Darius J. Butler]

Recruiting video.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that Rhino next to him? Who's next to him? It's Rhino right there. Sam Reinhardt.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. It's so hard to tell because some of them shave their playoff beards.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And it's also hard to tell because.

[Ty Schmidt]

That thing's going to the ocean.

[Conner Marshy]

You know what these guys look like.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we. We don't really get to do the FaceTime as much.

[Conner Marshy]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

With these. Tkachuk. We know Tkachuk Sunglasses. Veteran play. Been there before. This is second Stanley cup, you know, he knows, like, hey, by the time 12:30 comes around Eastern, my eyes are gonna be pretty bloodshot. Might be tough to keep them open with where I'm at, but would like the body to continue to party without getting judged by how my eyes look. Yeah, I'm tired. I haven't slept. Yeah. I'm pretty drunk.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Been drinking out of this thing.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Dehydrated, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You think I'm expected to keep up my hydration levels? Look at these. I can't open my eyes.

[AJ Hawk]

Finished 105 games.

[Pat McAfee]

Put sunglasses on, nobody questions. Goes, this guy looks cool.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Look how cool this guy looks. He's got it all figured out. They're veterans in celebrating the Stanley cup now and them giving it to the first time winners. First is awesome.

[Darius J. Butler]

It was awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

That is a cool play. That's like that team in a nutshell. Cannot wait to talk to Bill Zito at 1:15 Eastern Time to chit chat about how do you create a team like that? What do you look for? Right.

[Conner Marshy]

Right. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And maybe dubas up there in Pittsburgh, we'll hear he's taking note or share ideas or think to himself, man, that's how I feel about picking a team. Because it feels like they got it figured out down there. Yeah, feels like they got hockey figured out right now. And I assume they are a monkey see, monkey do league as well. So people trying to build a tough, physical, skilled team is a good thing for hockey as a whole too, because they are fun to watch. All right, let's pivot away from the NHL because it's over.

[AJ Hawk]

Hell of a season, though.

[Conner Marshy]

Good run.

[Pat McAfee]

NBA. Still got two good games left.

[Conner Marshy]

Hopefully two.

[Pat McAfee]

Two, two.

[AJ Hawk]

No chance.

[Pat McAfee]

Two more games left in the NBA and then what are all eyes upon.

[Darius J. Butler]

The W?

[Pat McAfee]

Agreed. Club World Cup. Agreed.

[Ty Schmidt]

The Opens, not the club World Cup.

[Pat McAfee]

Definitely the W. Especially if Sophie Cunningham is going to continue to fight people for messing with Caitlin Clark. Because it feels like Caitlin Clark is going to get treated in a certain way in this league for a long time. She's not a rookie anymore, okay. She's already proved herself. She's won. And then there were some, you know, ladies last night that were trying to go a little physical. And in last year, I think something we noticed and I think a lot of people noticed is when Caitlin would get bullied, nobody would do nothing.

[Conner Marshy]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody would do nothing. It was like, hey, they didn't know. Like, whoa, whoa. I can't believe this is happening. I can't believe people were doing this to Caitlin Clark. Teammates weren't jumping in there. They bring in Sophie Cunningham. I had no idea Sophie Cunningham was a black belt at the age of six.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah. Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom.

[AJ Hawk]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

J.C. sheldon. That's cute. You want to poke her in in the eye, then push her into a boom. Mayberry thing. Go ahead. I'll take a take foul and you'll eat the deck a little bit here and then we'll get out. I love it. I like also, I know people aren't gonna like this. I like the Connecticut take team doing what they did.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I don't like the blind side cheap shot. I don't like the poke in the eye, but I don't mind the physicality. Yeah, I don't mind a little bit of, like, competitive. How you doing? Keep it moving. Especially at the WNBA with how much is at stake. You know, right now they're at a pivotal time.

[Conner Marshy]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

There's CBA coming up. I think. I believe there is a some sort. Because remember, they're talking about hold now.

[Conner Marshy]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So there is some sort. I believe there is a CBA coming up. So it's like there's an opportunity now. Now what is the pivotal time? It's like having good. Having good basketball. Good. Having cheap shots not good probably, but having like good competitive fire. I think Great. And if Caitlyn's going to continue to pull up from the logo, she will. And drop it with no hesitation last night. Double team. Step back sideways. How you doing? Keep it moving. Then how about her to the side, to the bench afterwards with a you like that? Yeah, he was a. You like that. But that last one right here, this is a. Get to it, get to it, get to it. The punch is a. I'm the one. And she punched somebody. No, she punched herself. Oh no, she punches herself and she basically says like yelling in the face, like with me, basically. It was awesome. As soon as I watched it, I was so excited. Let them know is my entire thoughts because they were both. They were trying to body her.

[Conner Marshy]

Oh yeah, they were trying to body.

[Pat McAfee]

Her bit and she just in their face answers. I dog Sophie Cunningham coming in there too.

[AJ Hawk]

She was barking the whole time too. Underneath the hoop at that when she.

[Pat McAfee]

Was grabbing the head.

[AJ Hawk]

Uhhuh. Uhhuh.

[Darius J. Butler]

Is that who is that like who she is? She's like an enforcer.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. It feels like she was potentially brought in like a James Johnson type role for Tyrese Halbert. And it's like, thank God we. I think this is a good play, not a bad play.

[Darius J. Butler]

You always, you always need, need some. I don't know if they still call them. You need some goons on your team for sure. Especially when you have start a star like that. Yeah. When you have the golden goose, just like MJ was when you had his teammates who were kind of protecting the times when the dirt bag Detroit Pistons had those MJ rules. So this, this is what the grace is going to go through. Candace Parker kind of went through this. She came in the league. But yeah, Caitlyn Carr's going to continue to deal with it. And you know, she's a dog.

[Pat McAfee]

She's.

[Darius J. Butler]

She's an asshole. She's a competitor. She's cutthroat and I love it. And what did this get him into? The Commissioner's Cup.

[Ty Schmidt]

They won the East.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's go.

[Darius J. Butler]

Wait, what?

[Ty Schmidt]

They won the east of the Commissioner's Cup?

[Darius J. Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we're representing on the east and Commissioner's cup and then on the west we shall see. You know, there's a lot of great teams up there. And we'll be excited to see who we got to take on for the first ever commissioner. Second ever.

[AJ Hawk]

I. I think it's the second or third.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, say.

[AJ Hawk]

I think Commissioner's Cup.

[Conner Marshy]

Come on, let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

We want that. Caitlin. Caitlin's awesome in. Watching her in the games are electrifying. Even if one of the reasons is because how the other team acts towards her. That's a part of the reason to watch. And then, like, watching her figure it out. Last year, she's a rookie and she was being treated like she. Like this, but the whole season and her just having to transfer from like, okay, Iowa into professional basketball and then how she navigated it, changed her game and then also pulled over. She started taking over.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

She's the one. It's. It's a league filled with a lot of greats. I'm not saying that she's the only talented person in the wnba. I'm not saying that. But she. Yeah, this is a part of the reason why she is awesome to watch. Like, she is a needle mover. She's done a lot for Indianapolis already. We're appreciative. All right, let's move away from the wnba. Good call. We won't be focusing on the mlb, but we will pay attention to MLB stories.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

That's.

[Conner Marshy]

I mean, a lot of baseball left, so.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But mostly NFL future conversations.

[Conner Marshy]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

And golf, ladies and gentlemen. Let's put those two together. Joining us now, a man who will be a fairway side reporter for travelers.

[Conner Marshy]

Inside the ropes.

[Pat McAfee]

He's inside the ropes.

[Darius J. Butler]

You got a golf insider?

[Pat McAfee]

Mm. I believe pundit analyst insider.

[Conner Marshy]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

For golf. And then senior NFL insider at espn. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. All right, what are we doing out there?

[Adam Schefter]

Let me get my. Let me get my voice ready for tomorrow. Let's whisper and see how it's done. How Rory McElroy and Keegan Bradley are going to hit him from the fairway. Are we all ready for tomorrow? I think we are.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Bill Zito]

We are.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So what are you. You're going to have that little pack on your back that you're going to have the. The connection and the ears. You're going to have a handheld and you're going to be following them on the course. Is that your role hole tomorrow?

[Adam Schefter]

That's my role tomorrow. Basically, it's 18 holes with Rory and Captain Keegan be walking. And honestly, look, I mean, Robert Dameron is going to provide golf commentary. Old people back in the studio. I'm just There to observe, have a little bit of fun.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I love golf.

[Adam Schefter]

I love watching these guys. In all honesty, on Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, I watch ESPN plus. I'm like in this golf pool. I watch my golf or whoever I picked that week. I watch every shot that he hits. So this is just taking me up close and personal to these guys. And I had the chance to meet Rory last October. Jack Tarraputo, the producer for Happy Gilmore, invited me out to New Jersey. They were filming for the day and it was a day where Rory was there, Scotty Scheffler was there, Bryson was there, Brooks Koepka was there. Got to hang out with those guys for a morning. Was kind of cool. And yeah, now we go out tomorrow to Cromwell, Connecticut, to the Travelers Championship. And I'm honored to be a tiny, eeny bitsy part of the broadcast.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, ESPN plus obviously has a lot of different streams to cover golf this year. And more specifically the Travelers, which is a signature event this year for the PGA who's got a new CEO who we are all pumped up about in the roll up world. Let's go, Brian. Let's go, Brian. How much of this do you plan on doing in the future? Because I remember whenever Woj retired, there was a thought that the other insiders are maybe just pick up basketball and then you are potentially going to become a basketball insider alongside of a football insider. Are you thinking about becoming a golf insider as well? How much more of this coverage are you going to do and what are the opportunities here other than just tomorrow?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I mean, just tomorrow is the opportunity, to be honest. But I do think there is an opening in the golf space.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Adam Schefter]

And I think that in time that's something that would interest me. Like, I love what I do. I'm very happy doing what I do. I want to keep doing it, but I've done it for 35 years too. And you know, if you have grilled chicken every night, every once in a while it's nice to have the stir fried chicken and just mix it up a little bit, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

And so try some different things. And that's all this is when, when I did the NBA sidelines, that was unbelievable. Like, I love it and you know what it's like in the sports world. Like when you were playing football, Pat, if there are athletes and entertainers that show up in your universe, they love to be a part of the football world. And people in the football world love to be a part of the athletes and enter or the entertainment and artist world. So there's a little bit of overlap there and I love stepping into a new venue where I don't know what the hell I'm doing tomorrow. Tomorrow I'm just there to try to observe, watch, learn, have a little bit of fun and we'll see what happens. I have no idea. All I know is I'm thankful to have the opportunity and hopefully I don't disrupt Captain Keegan and Rory in their backswings or anything like that.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, Rory needs a pick me up, so maybe you'll be the one that does it and. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, Rory's been tossing clubs.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Pretty good club tosser though, if I might add, maybe the biggest, best in tour's history. That little bounce pass to himself with the club. I thought he was going to maybe throw it again. Could you imagine? He throws it once, not good enough, throws it again. That would have been two club throws and one club throw. That would have been a couple, a combo record. We hope he's in a better move, better spirits. Hopefully you're able to do that. Let's talk a little bit about football, shall we? Big conversation in Baltimore right now. Go ahead, Debuz.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, yeah. Lamar Jackson is making a little wave, speaking about his former college teammate Jair Alexander. Got a little video right here.

[AJ Hawk]

Accomplished cornerback available.

[Darius J. Butler]

Have you got a go get him, Eric. I love all our corners, don't get me wrong, but go get them, Eric.

[Ty Schmidt]

Have you gotten a chance to talk.

[Evan Cohen]

To Jair about coming here?

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, I hit him up, I hit him up. But you know, you don't know. You never know. What Jair, that's my boy, man. Obviously that's a franchise quarterback speaking there, so that's going to make ways. But what is the market out there for Alexander right now?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I think the thing is, is that he's got interest from other teams like Carolina is interested in Jair Alexander and there are other teams that are offering him, I think more money than Baltimore can. But that relationship right there cannot be underestimated. I think there were college roommates together, Lamar and Jair, and we're talking about Lamar speaking to Jair, but it's gone both ways. Jair's also reached out to Lamar and I think that there's a mutual interest on both sides in somehow having this happen. Now if they can get it together, great. If not, then they can't. But definitely the Ravens are in the conversation and I think wherever he goes, the chances are it's going to be a one year deal. He gets to become a free agent. After the season. I think that's been part of the goal here and he can hit the free agent market with a fresh slate after hopefully having a strong season. But I think Carolina's in play. I think Baltimore's in play. I think there are some other teams in play and we'll see ultimately what Jair wants to do.

[Pat McAfee]

Love the Carolinas in play. Love everything about that. And shout out to the Panthers fans and maybe seeing some happy times with your team as opposed to laughingstock, which they had been for a long time. Let's talk about him saying he wanted to be a free agent after this year. Basically approve it year. Well, you would want to win then. You would want to win like so you would. You would certainly. Right. Because prime time games probably what you would.

[Darius J. Butler]

Same conversation we have with the Panthers like you want to. Obviously you always want to pluck if you're another team and pay guys that are coming from winning organizations.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So you would think that the Ravens would have let alone him being best friends seemingly with Lamar Jackson and anything we know about that Baltimore Ravens culture like Jair would be great. Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

As a Baltimore Raven coached by Chuck Magano.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Chuck Magano's in that building. Jair would love Chuck. I mean, that would be a great relationship between the two, but why not? Hey, come to Indianapolis.

[Darius J. Butler]

Come here.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, come to Indianapolis. Giant piece.

[Darius J. Butler]

Only thing, thing with Jair's health, if he stays healthy and he can he plays how he's always played in the league, he will be one of the highest paid corners in the league, I think.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's talk about the sacking of the NFL. Go ahead, con man.

[AJ Hawk]

Shefty reports about Trey Hendrickson and the Bengals talking again were reported. Is that real? Is that kind of bs? Is this the Bengals front office getting this out there so that they kind of look like the good guy here? And do you expect this deal to get done for about 30 minutes? Million?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, they're talking again, but they're not any further along like they're talking. It doesn't mean a whole lot right now. It'll mean something if and when they can figure out a way to get a deal done, which they've been unable to do so far. And you know, I think there's a disagreement over value. And I think most important, there's also a disagreement on length here, length of deal. I think that's also an issue here. The Bengals would like a shorter deal. Hendrickson would like a longer deal, and they can't even find common ground on the length of the deal right now. Now, again, it's June 18th, so if it's still not solved by July 18th, that's more of an issue. If it's not solved by August 18th, then that becomes a real issue. But I think Trey Hendrickson is absolutely frustrated right now and disappointed with the way this whole thing has gone. And we see some of these other pass rushers getting paid. And look, it's in the best interest of both sides here, the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson to get a deal done. There are your highest paid guys right now. The list is going to be increasing. Micah Parsons is going to become the highest paid defensive player in history at some point this summer. He's going to pass up Miles Garrett. And so I don't know that that has a dramatic effect on Trey Hendrickson, but it could have some type of effect. And look, Trey Hendrickson, the last two years, more sacks than anybody led the league in sacks last year. A guy you want in your locker room. But again, they're talking, but they're not any closer to a deal today.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so they're talking, not closer to a deal, but at least there's communication happening, you know, because for a long time there hadn't been, which I think Trey felt kind of disrespected by. If I'm picking through the way he has handled this entire situation, even going to a voluntary day. Hey, how you guys doing? Where's the media? This is all bullshit. You know, he didn't say that exactly, but basically how he explained it is. Last year, two years ago, I thought this was going to happen. Last year I thought this was going to happen. I was told if I do this again, I've just got the most sacks out of anybody. Three years feels like the right one in my. Normally this would be a three year type deal. Are you thinking that Trey wants longer? Cincinnati Bengals won less than that. But I. I think that.

[Adam Schefter]

I think that the Bengals would like a low deal, like one year.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, okay.

[Adam Schefter]

One year.

[Pat McAfee]

They would like a trial run here.

[Darius J. Butler]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

I think they would like to boost what he's gonna make probably for the final year.

[Ty Schmidt]

Wow is right.

[Pat McAfee]

Like kind of what the Giants did was Saquon right when he wanted that running back deal. Yeah, they like boosted it for like 3,000 or something.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it wasn't that much.

[Pat McAfee]

Or maybe Austin X Eckler.

[AJ Hawk]

No, Echler had the boost, but with Saquon, he had the tag and then they gave him like 10.5 million 800,000.

[Pat McAfee]

So maybe they're just trying to Give a boost. And, hey, you're gonna make this. We're trying to boost it up to this, and then you'll be free. Interesting.

[AJ Hawk]

Eckler's was the one that was like 3,000 more dollars. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Pretty good. That one was disrespectful. Yeah, that one we thought, oh, geez, I don't know if we want that one to be made publicly. Okay, so that's Trey Hendrickson in the AFC North. Let's stay in the AFC north with a quarterback tackler. Go ahead, Tone.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Shetty, you talked about Micah being the highest paid defender of all time, passing Miles Garrett. You did not mention T.J. watt. Passing miles Garrett. What's the latest on that situation? Do you think he will get more than Miles Garrett?

[Adam Schefter]

I don't know that he's gonna get more than Miles Garrett. I think T.J. watts gonna get a nice, strong, healthy deal. And I think at some point in time, the two sides will be able to figure out a way to get this done. And I can't imagine that T.J. watt wouldn't be there for the start of training camp, that Pittsburgh would not get a deal done. We heard Mike Tomlin last week at mandatory minicamp saying that both sides working to make it happen. But T.J. watt serious here. Like, he's seen all the money that's gone around and. And he wants to make sure that he gets rewarded in the appropriate way. And again, I just think that these two sides will be able to figure out. I think Miles Garrett is in his own class.

[Pat McAfee]

Like.

[Adam Schefter]

Like Micah Parsons is four years younger, I believe, than Miles Garrett and had more quarterback pressures, more wins against opposing offensive lineman. And Miles Garrett is a Hall of Fame defensive end, a Hall of Fame pass rusher. But Micah Parsons had numbers that beat his, and he's four years younger. And that's why I think Mike is going to become the highest paid defensive player. T.J. watt's going to get a really, really strong deal, but I don't know exactly where it's going to come in. I think I'd be surprised if it was higher than Myles Garrett.

[Pat McAfee]

How come everybody just assumes that deal is getting done? You know, that's. That's how it's been. He missed Mantori minicamp. Everybody's like a D.J. watts.

[Adam Schefter]

It's the Steelers.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, thank you. Just because you think the Steelers will definitely get it done.

[Adam Schefter]

They'll figure out a way. And he's so important to that team in that city that it's hard to imagine that they wouldn't figure out a way to get it done.

[Pat McAfee]

But he has to think that they're not going to get it done. Right. That's why he didn't go to mandatory.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, yo. No, no. He said he opted to absorb the 107/,000 in fines by not showing up at mandatory minicamp. That's a big statement to make. Like $107,000 is a lot of money, but if you're talking about 35 plus million dollars a year, what's $107,000? So he could afford to make a statement. That was what he opted to do. Tell them that he's not happy. He's so unhappy that he's willing to stay away. And that will continue if the deal is not done in the right way.

[Pat McAfee]

So when this is like 38,107,000 a year for the next three years or whatever it is, we can obviously laugh about the fine, but everybody's just saying, the deal is going to get done. The deal is going to get done. The deal is going to get done. And it seems like with the way TJ is operating is he doesn't think a deal at this stage is gonna get done. I'm very intrigued by that. Like, I. And I think JJ talked. JJ walk came on and was like, I just feel like from my perspective, whenever you do these deals earlier, you save yourself grief, you save anxiety, you save money, you do all these things. So whenever it continues to roll out, it's like Trey's dealing with it. Now, obviously TJ was dealing with it. Miles Garrett was dealing with like, money can solve it, but it. Ultimately, Jerry Jones normally has to deal with this because he passes it off. It's like that number just goes up and up and up. And it's like, if you're going to get a deal done, inevitably get. Just let's. Let's get a deal.

[AJ Hawk]

Especially with tj. The record of when TJ plays versus when he doesn't for the Steelers. I forget the exact number, but it.

[Darius J. Butler]

Wasn'T with Aaron Rodgers.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, like, who wants to hold out longer? Does the team want to hold out longer or does the player want to hold out longer?

[Darius J. Butler]

Somebody the Cowboys love. Jerry Jones likes it.

[Pat McAfee]

The drama.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You think that he likes.

[Darius J. Butler]

Shefty just said, Michael Parsons will be the highest paid. Like, why not just get that done now before somebody else?

[Pat McAfee]

I remember when Jim Hersey said, Andrew Locke's going to be the highest paid quarterback in history, brother. Everybody was like, just lost a lot of leverage there. Don't care. Don't care. We all see it, brother. It's like, yes, we do. Yes, we do. All right. Intrigued by it all, especially decision makers and how they go about doing things. Last question for you. Speaking of that, there's a brand new decision maker in the land of cheese. Please go ahead, Ty.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, Shefty. We've heard from packers new CEO and team president Ed Policy about some of his new policies and he basically said, hey, I'm not ready yet to give extensions to both Matt LaFleur and Brian Goodekinst. How pivotal is this season for the packers, not just for the team, you know, to kind of take that next step, but like, I don't want to say these guys are on the hot seat, but how pivotal is this season that the packers perform well?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I thought that was a very interesting statement. He said a couple of interesting things yesterday. He mentioned something about the fact that the packers aren't exploring options of moving. And I'm like, the Green Bay Pat. When did we ever hear about the packers moving? So clearly there's something going on with the stadium that the team is not happy with right now that he's trying to get rectified and using some leverage. And he brought up the fact that he's not ready to extend Russ Bull ball, Brian Gudekenst and Matt Lafleur. And I think Gudekinson and lafleur have two years left on their deal. This is a time that a lot of teams would be doing deals if you believe in your guy. Right now, Ed Policy is taking over and I think he's just taking a wait and see approach. The coaching market, the GM market is what it is. It's not like by waiting, it's going to cost them a whole lot more and each guy will have another year left on his defense deal after this year. But I just thought it was interesting that he would even open the door there to start that conversation because at the end of the season, everybody's going to go back to Ed Policy and say, where are we at on Brian Gudekinst and Matt Lafleur? And he set precedent by talking about it now. So you would expect that he would be once again willing to talk about it after the year and we'll get a stance. If he all of a sudden says after the season guy, I'm not talking about that. Well, that's not a very good sign for those guys. So I think we have an idea of where he's at right now. Wait and see. Both guys have done a great job. I Would have thought that they'd be taken care of, but he's waiting and seeing on both.

[Pat McAfee]

I think if you asked him, he'd say, ed, policies. Policies are stern but fair.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's saying, I'm gonna have to see with my own eyes. You know, I got ideas. He's appointed by a board.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So then if the board has appointed this guy and he brings up the. We're not thinking about leaving Green Bay. That means there's probably some sort of something. Could you imagine the Green Bay packers leaving Green Bay?

[Conner Marshy]

That'll never happen. We can just.

[Pat McAfee]

Kai's an owner of the Green Bay Packers.

[Conner Marshy]

We can end that. Ed Policy was also the guy who basically started, like, the title town expansion. So, like, he. He knows what's going on around there. He's going to make sure that that.

[Pat McAfee]

Policy'S policies are good. Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

Bingo. He was also general counsel. Like, Ed Policy is a bit of a big swinging dick, so he just needs to kind of get into his own here, and he will. I like it. I kind of like it. Put their feet to a. To the fire a little bit. I'm tired of hearing, hey, this is the youngest team. Like, packers are coming on. They might challenge to win a Super bowl this year, and then you get, you know, a first round playoff exit. I like it. Hey, let's go. Let's go. Let's have a deep playoff run, and then we'll talk.

[Pat McAfee]

Great. First round of the draft. Great. Host of the draft. Anything else? We should be chitching, chatting about either golf or football with you, Shefty, as we come up on a hard out?

[Adam Schefter]

No, but we wish good luck to your Pacers here tomorrow night. That's a big game for your team here, and we'll see whether Tyrese can go. That's a big deal. Certainly sound like he was going to go. And now they're listing him as questionable. I'd be surprised if he didn't play.

[AJ Hawk]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

Love that. Ladies and gentlemen, senior golf, NBA and NFL Insider at espn, Adam Scheffer. Thank you, buddy. The Bond Band. The band, man.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Brad Maran looks awesome on top of a car down in Florida right now. Cigar in hand, coffee in hand. Saw that Surfside. Spiked coffee or iced tea? Spiked iced tea, elbow beer.

[Darius J. Butler]

He ain't leaving.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Darius J. Butler]

He ain't going.

[Ty Schmidt]

I saw a video of Sam Bennett just, like, just taking in everything and speaking to the crowd. He ain't going anywhere either.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, as we get out of here, we head to ESPN2, the college world Series. Continues on the other side of this break. Ty, who's playing and what do we need to know?

[Conner Marshy]

We got Louisville and Coastal Carolina next. Coastal Carolina is undefeated. If they win, they will move on to the championship series. If Louisville wins, then there'll be like a little bit of a mix up. Basically right now we have two teams who have not lost. Lost two teams that have one loss. We're. If you lose two games, you're eliminated. So we're just trying to get to the championship series here, which will be a best two out of three. Should be a great game.

[Pat McAfee]

The game starts at 2:00.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh.

[Conner Marshy]

Oh, well, okay. Hey, so we got an hour here to kind of, you know, chew through some of the stats and everything.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, deeper dive. Yeah, we'll do a deeper dive on the other side.

[Conner Marshy]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Like one hour from right now. Okay, perfect.

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[Pat McAfee]

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[AJ Hawk]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[AJ Hawk]

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[Pat McAfee]

You are getting more for your money at Harbor Freight. There are over 1,500 Harbor Freight stores in the U.S. so come see for yourself. Whatever you do, do it for less at Harbor Freight. Sports are happening all around us. We have a Stanley cup champion for the 2025 NHL season, and that is once again the Florida Panthers.

[Darius J. Butler]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Big win last night as Darius J. Butler, 9 year NFL vet, South Florida native and Florida Panther die hard fan celebrates here in Indianapolis as all of South Florida has turned once again into hockey beach. Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Lordo has been bouncing around down there near Fort Laudi DY and Sunrise, Florida. From the elbow Room, two houses I assume, to a golf course later this afternoon as the Florida Panther boys enjoy the hell out of being crowned the best team in hockey for yet another season in the middle of a dynasty. Congratulations to you, Darius Butler having a hell of a run.

[Darius J. Butler]

Thank you. Congratulations to you giving us a team to be proud out to root for.

[Pat McAfee]

And yeah, is that going to happen in any other sports?

[Darius J. Butler]

I mean. Dolphins. Dolphins are on the clock. With the Heat and like, you know, the Heels, they had their run when they went to four straight finals. Now we got three straight finals with the either Marlins. Marlins won a couple of those things. So Dolphins been, I think, 26 years now since we've had a playoff run. So that's great. Time to have one here.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys might be trying to trade for Kevin Durant, allegedly. That could maybe change some things down there. I don't know if that's going to be his final destination. I did, I saw some people comment whenever we posted another Kevin Durant update that is there anything being talked about? Every day we're talking about Kevin Durant. Nothing really. Huh? Just kind of.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

It's fluid, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, it is a fluid.

[Conner Marshy]

Say, like, hey, this could happen in the next couple days. So that kind of creates the urgency of like, hey, we got to be talking about this because Durant's about to get traded. Will and behold. It's been several days since he said that.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, and then now there's a report that Sean said that the Phoenix Suns are going to trade for whatever the best is for the team, even if it is not a part of Kevin Durant's desired destination. I saw that as a lower third. I didn't hear the interview, though.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, saw that as well. I think the. Sean, the biggest Shams tidbit that he has shared with us that, that he didn't even mean to was that the spurs are going after a different somebody, a different superstar.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That on their timeline. As opposed to the Kevin Durant timeline.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I think that, that. I don't know if he meant to say that because he just kind of slipped that in and then you kind of pushed him on in a little bit like.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, because he said they're packaging pieces for maybe another star on their own timeline.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. What does that mean?

[AJ Hawk]

I think it means there's. I mean, there's one team, the Boston Celtics, that have stars that are in the range of the Spurs. Stars like kd. I love kd. I. I want Katie on the friggin Celtics. Okay. But he's 37 and all their players are in their early 20s. So if you were looking at the Boston Celtics like a Jalen Brown who's still in his 20s, who's still in his prime, who would have not just one or three years. He is the exact piece they need. They have a point guard with Fox, they have Wemby, they have Castle. If they were to add like a wing like Jalen Brown, they they would, legitimately.

[Pat McAfee]

So you guys would get the number two overall pick, too, or what would you guys do?

[AJ Hawk]

I mean. Yeah, that. That would be the thing. The Celtics would get probably the second overall pick, I'm sure. You know, Brad Stevens has some sort of plan. And then, I mean, whether they stay at 2 or they like someone who was probably projected a little after those top three guys, maybe that's what they do. Maybe they try and trade that pick someone else.

[Pat McAfee]

Most craziest off season ever.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

What Seams called this off season. We shall see if it live up to the hype. You know, Joe Nardo would never do this, and I don't think any meteorologist or weather people here in Indianapolis would do this, but it does feel like every once in a while, seemingly every storm's the biggest storm of all time.

[Conner Marshy]

Correct.

[Pat McAfee]

Sky man.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Bunker dies, you know, and then they get the Doppler up. Oh, this one broke up here. Actually, we're interrupting the show that you want to be watching right now to show this Doppler of this area that is nowhere near where you live. Live. And you're being forced to watch it because you see we got these triangles here and it could potentially hit you. And then. Oh, we're going to go back to your scheduled program. Okay. Because it wasn't that big of a deal. Every once in a while, a big storm will come, but normally it's a boy who cried wolf type situation, you know, and that type of thing for the NBA, it's like whenever. I don't know about the NBA, but in sports, whenever they say something big is about to happen, it's been a dud for us throughout our run.

[AJ Hawk]

Most of the time.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. As they show. Right, right. And that kind of. So whenever I hear shams go most craziest ever in the moment, I get real excited. I'm like, oh, that's going to be great. And then once, like, reality settles in, it's like we always kind of get sold that there's a dream. And I think it's because a lot of teams are very active. And then when it push comes to shove to make an actual play, do you do it? That's why that Luca to the Lakers thing was so huge, because it's like what. That type of conversation happens, it never really takes place. So maybe the NBA is wild. Maybe Kevin Durant moves. Maybe the. The Boston Celtics do a big time trade. Maybe there's a lot of movement. Maybe there's none, which has happened in the past. There has been Some movement on a massive, massive free agent in the NFL. The toxic tables here at Boss Connor and at Ty Schmidt. You're going to want to hear this 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys. AP Tone, you're definitely going to want to hear this piece of news live from an attic in Ohio. A college football national champion, a Super bowl champion, the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, A.J. hunter Hawk is here. A.J. and I know you know this former captain of the Green Bay Packers, Jair Alexander has signed with the Baltimore Ravens.

[Conner Marshy]

Wow, that was quick.

[AJ Hawk]

Damn.

[Pat McAfee]

Lamar Jackson's words to Jair Alexander's ears. And the Baltimore Ravens have signed Jair Alexander to join that Baltimore Raven team that is yearning for a Super bowl from what Schefter told us is probably a one year deal. Looking to become a free agent after this year. Did that change in negotiations? Who knows? Jair feels like a perfect fit with the Baltimore Ravens culture. And once again the conversation is can he stay healthy? Right? That's the entire combo, D. Buck, that's.

[Darius J. Butler]

The only conversation when it comes to him. He's still in the prime of his career. Great ball skills, can play man to man, can play zone. Then you put him in the secondary with a guy like Kyle Hamilton. Young superstar Marlon Humphrey coming off one of his best years in the NFL. Nate Wiggins, young corner, they got out there with a lot of talent as well, man. Some great pass rushers up front. Chuck P. Back in the building. This is a great, great signing for the Baltimore Ravens. Love that Lamar came out, spoke publicly about his guy. I'm sure he already knew kind of the wheels were in motion, him being in the building, getting it done. While Shefte could have told us Shefty had to know he was in the building. But this is great, great news from Jair in the room. Ravens.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Eric the Costa getting the deal done. Let's go to A.J. hawk, who said in the group text he'd be a great fit. Why do you think that? Just because of personality, style of play. What are your thoughts?

[Evan Cohen]

Yeah, I mean all of the above, D. But you know, there's not really like Jer can kind of do it all when it comes to how he covers. But I think just especially if he's on a one year kind of prove it deal, let's get to a big old contract. Jer would fit in beautifully with that secondary because this dude has some moxie. We know what he's done. Like we know know the whole captain situation where he thought he was going to Be captain, he was in his hometown, all of that stuff. But I just love, I think he'll fit in beautifully because I think when you get a change of scenery like this and all of a sudden he's going to be like, reinvigorated. The question obviously, can he stay in the field? If this dude's on the field, he absolutely makes plays every single game.

[Pat McAfee]

And also it's going to be very easy. Everybody knows who Jair is in the NFL. Like, everybody knows exactly how he's going to be when he gets in there. But you have the franchise quarterback back basically co signing you immediately upon getting into the locker room. That makes transition very, very easy. Not that it wouldn't be for Jair, but I'm just saying, you get dropped in there, it's going to be just like Marshan, whenever he got put in the Florida Panthers team. It's a perfect fit all the way down around there. And then you have to wonder, the Green Bay packers have said enough. They're just moving on. Ty Schmidt?

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, I think it was more so just like they wanted him to take a pretty big pay cut and he was just like, no, you know, you, you signed me to this deal. Like, I'm not, when, when I'm healthy, I'm one of the best, best cornerbacks in the league. So I think it was, it was always trending towards this. But for him too, like, this is by far the most talented secondary he's ever played in. You know, for the longest time when he was in Green Bay, he was kind of the glue that was holding everything together. And it was, you know, kind of just like a bunch of, a bunch of dudes and then Jair. So for him to go out there and not have to be the one who's necessarily always shadowing the number one receiver, you know, he can kind, you can kind of just fit in. Like, I, I, if he can stay healthy, I expect him to have a massive year for the Ravens.

[Pat McAfee]

God, the Ravens are loading up. What are the Steelers doing?

[Ty Schmidt]

We brought in a four time NFL mvp.

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, the underachiever.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that conversation's awesome.

[Ty Schmidt]

You know. No, I mean the Ravens, the second.

[Pat McAfee]

Four time NFL mvp. Underachiever, dude.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I mean, look, I get it. What's this guy done? Well, that's, we're talking about the heels.

[Ty Schmidt]

You know what that is? That's ring culture. And that's. Ring culture is.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, all right. Well, that whole thing, I think it has to matter a little bit. You know, I think there's, there's such a. Such an interesting, you know, like, underachieve. Okay. I guess he didn't win enough rings. But then whenever you compare, I think this is definitely why Tick Tock Tok for sure.

[Evan Cohen]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

It has to be.

[Darius J. Butler]

It's good game.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. 1,000%. But good news.

[AJ Hawk]

We just got back on at 109.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, we got banned from TikTok for gambling.

[Evan Cohen]

For what?

[Pat McAfee]

New LRAP. So ESPN bet obviously has been doing the LRAP here. We don't have commercials during the show, so that's a little bit different, I think whenever it comes to linear marketing and sponsorship and kind of creation of the show and innovating the entire industry. So, you know, the L Raps, though, are some certainly very real. Not that we created L Reps, but you get it. And they made a new one and they added this whole thing here. And Tick Tock was like, you just think, yeah, no, they banned us. Yeah, you're banned.

[Darius J. Butler]

It's a good deal. TikTok didn't like good deals.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You bet 10, you get 100 bucks in bonus bets.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Wow.

[AJ Hawk]

Right away there's a fine print.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Yeah. Well, you always got. It must be 21, obviously, and then down there. But you can get. Get 100 on your promo code at DSPN BET. Okay. Tomorrow night, obviously, the Pacers take on Oklahoma City Thunder. And all eyes are on that to see if, you know, the NHL ended last night. We'll talk to Bill Zito in about five minutes about his team going back to back. And then now we got a basketball title game happening tomorrow night. And that means the NBA season could be. Be over as well. I have just come to the understanding that there is a chance that Oklahoma City could win. Sure.

[AJ Hawk]

Huh.

[Conner Marshy]

That's possible.

[AJ Hawk]

Larry O.

[Pat McAfee]

Will. I did not come.

[Darius J. Butler]

I don't like that because of that.

[Conner Marshy]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

At all.

[Evan Cohen]

But if the Pacers win, possibly explosion.

[Pat McAfee]

Sure all around town, but this could be Oklahoma City dancing with their confetti on our court. And obviously it's been a great year for the Pacers no matter how this ends up. But we need the Pacers to win. Not only for the good of Indiana and the good of this program, but for the good of sports as a whole. What's your problem?

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, I just. It's thinking about it now, about the entire situation that could unfold tomorrow. Could you imagine if OKC wins and they roll out that stage and then, you know, maybe the owner, maybe SGA, maybe Mark Daggs says, you know, in 49 states it's it's just a trophy.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, my God.

[AJ Hawk]

But in one state. It's ours. And they. And they raised. They need to do that.

[Pat McAfee]

You should send that.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. How do we TM. Dump that? How do we send that to.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, we don't need that. Okay. That is not what we're looking for.

[AJ Hawk]

It's a good line, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it is a very good line. That would.

[AJ Hawk]

That would hit hard, especially with the T shirts.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. They bought. This is Indiana.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I have come to realize that this is a possibility. Yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

I don't like that you come to that realization because now Pacers fans out here, they're watching you. They're going to.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, no, no.

[Darius J. Butler]

You're.

[Pat McAfee]

You're.

[Darius J. Butler]

You're the spokesperson for the Indiana Pacers.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, no, I'm not. There's a lot of other people for.

[Evan Cohen]

The runner that steers the ship. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I believe the Pacers are going to enforce Game seven and win this entire thing in Oklahoma City, and they're going to do the whole. The whole thing right there in Oklahoma. I believe that's going to happen.

[Darius J. Butler]

But I got a Game seven hat for you if you really believe it.

[Pat McAfee]

Two of them right over there. Bottom, shout out. Boost. Shout out. Great hat. Yeah. Great Game seven. Everybody knows what it's about.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a beautiful hat. With that being said, the game time decision thing with Tyrese, I didn't like that news. Okay. I did not like that news at all. But I like the depth of our team. Our team. Anybody can go off on any night and it feels like in the NBA it would be very wild if. Now I think Tyrese is going to play, too. If he can walk, he can play. So if they're giving him an opportunity, he's going to play. Schefter said it feels like he's going to play. I don't know if Schefter knows, but Schefter said he feels like he's going to play, which is great news. If that's the case, there isn't even a sense of reality being Oklahoma winning. But if there is a chance he doesn't play, it's like we're going to need. Need the people that have big games like every three games to, like, all have their big games, like on one night.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And I think that can't happen. Tricky Ricky can have the boys ready.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he can have the boys ready. I just fear that no matter how ready they are, Oklahoma City is just.

[Pat McAfee]

Just a better team this year, ladies and gentlemen. Well, it's who's a better team tomorrow night.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right. Amen. Well said.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, it's not about this year.

[AJ Hawk]

A true.

[Pat McAfee]

We just need to look at 1. One series at a time.

[AJ Hawk]

Exactly. One possession.

[Pat McAfee]

One possession at a time. One dribble at a time. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

One breath at a time.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

One step.

[Pat McAfee]

Every single sip of water matters tomorrow. Every pregame dance, every pregame handshake. The introduction which they showed Oklahoma City's. I hope they show ours as well. And they should get Obie toppin rocking that rock rim. Yeah, he takes off from the foul line, grabs that thing and then he lands back on the foul line. Could be halftime entertainment.

[Conner Marshy]

Could be. Well, what he does, make sure they get red pan tomorrow too. We can't have the BMX guy back.

[AJ Hawk]

Bike guy.

[Pat McAfee]

I know.

[Conner Marshy]

We won that game. That guy cannot be out there tomorrow night.

[Pat McAfee]

What about the national anthem? Oh boy.

[Conner Marshy]

That guy can't do a national anthem again. The one we saw. They need Saxman.

[AJ Hawk]

They need Saxman.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man who knows everything about winning championships. All his team does is win. Especially the last two years. They become the eighth team franchise to win back to back Stanley Cups. Only 13 times in the modern era has it happened since 1967. It's obviously a compliment to the culture, the players and the building. The man who pieced that together, together or helped piece that together, he's actually a Pittsburgh dude. His dad played for the Steelers. This man played at Yale. An absolute hockey mastermind. General manager of the Florida Panthers, the Stanley cup champions yet again. Bill Zito. How are you? How you doing, Bill?

[Bill Zito]

Actually my. I'm doing great. Thanks for having me on. My dad played for the Ducane Ironman who was the taxi squad shout out. I guess he played at pit and then graduated. And I don't think they had. They didn't have a reserve squad. So whoever kind of lived in town played and I think they were just there for practice.

[Pat McAfee]

So you think you were a football guy. You think you football guy growing up obviously have that.

[Bill Zito]

Oh yeah, I have my Franco's Italian army T shirt. The whole thing.

[Ty Schmidt]

Big as we all do.

[Pat McAfee]

We love that Bill. Obviously everybody in Pittsburgh. Jones, of course. Yeah. Penn's going back to back couple times. Pittsburgh guy down there in Florida taking it to south beach. And that place has become an immaculate fan base. Let's talk about the culture down there. Whenever you get the gig, do you obviously dream about the Florida Panthers and the Panthers fan base and the experiences that you're Having right now and then for it happening, Is it better than you could have expected at this stage of building a dynasty? At the beginning of building this dynasty? Do you. Do you dream of these times? Are you nowhere near done? Like, where do you currently stand on how you feel about the job you guys have done down there?

[Bill Zito]

So I'll answer the first part first. So when, when I took the job, we. We absolutely had a plan and a script for a destination franchise. It was part of my interview process saying, listen, you've got everything. People should want to come here. People should just independent of the hockey. And then let's make the hockey grade great to sort of match the weather, the environment, the travel and everything else that comes with it. Then once we started the hockey, I think it started with Patrick Hornquist. I know another Pittsburgh.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yep.

[Bill Zito]

And he came in and. And he had that pedigree and he had the energy and the personality very similar to Brad Marchand. And it's almost like it kind of went full circle as far as the culture and moving forward. You know, I think almost by definition, because of the culture that we've been able to start, we don't feel that it. That it's finished or that like it's always evolving and always trying to be better without trying to. I listen to you talk about the basketball, every drink of water, everything to be as efficient as we can and professional and trying to be excellent, but without going overboard or wasting time and energy on silly things.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's talk about things that aren't silly in our eyes, especially because we've been on teams before. The boys going out to eat before every game publicly on the road. You picking up the tabs allegedly for this entire thing. Them going to Dairy Queen the night before every. Like, them talking about how together they are as a team. I mean, that's exactly what you're trying to build whenever you piece these players. Players together. Right, Bill?

[Bill Zito]

And it's all sincere, it's all true and it's all real, even the coaches. So the night before every road game, coaches meet at 6:30 in the lobby and Rob Tallis has the restaurant picked and we all go. That group has figured out a way, both the coaches and the players, to enjoy each other and to try to have as much fun as they can. We asked them for an inordinate amount of work. The work. It's hard when they do it and there's a lot of it. But when we're not working, it's, you know, enjoy your life, have fun Enjoy each other. And we're blessed that we have guys who have bought in and, and who truly are. I think right now they're having a lot of fun.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I would say.

[Bill Zito]

I'm not, I'm not sure I like that, but. No, they've earned it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think they're just beginning to. If it's anything like last year, boss man, you know, just next couple days you're gonna have to give a green flag that there, you know, the, the elbow. The elbow room's getting a lot of the franchise's money right now. You know, that is currently happening.

[Bill Zito]

Go ahead, put mattresses in on the apartments upstairs.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly. Lordo's got one and the boys all have one. Die hard Florida Panther fan D Butt has a question for you, Bill.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, yeah, thank you, Bill, first of all for building this team, putting it together. I was telling the boys earlier, I remember the, the day, back in the day, a few decades ago, go how the Panthers were viewed from the outside, looking in and even being a Florida resident. So thank you for that, number one. But what are some of the things that goes into, I guess, identifying a Panther who's going to fit into that locker room? We all play sports up here. We know how, how difficult it is to bring in new guys, new energy, new contracts. So what goes into identifying a Panther? You talked about Marshawn, obviously, Jonesy, and even the other guys you brought into the building.

[Bill Zito]

Yeah, I think, think when we started, you know, you're looking and you say in the scouting meetings, we want someone with character and all this and what have you. And, and of course that's part of it.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Bill Zito]

And the scouts is part of their job. It's, it's to try to figure out the character of the players who they've been assigned, you know, to scout. But we've reached a point almost where the room can accept almost anybody. And they pull the, they pull all the good qualities out of that person. And I think, I think it's because it starts with Paul Maurice and the leadership in the room. Fail. It's okay to fail. So come in and be yourself because you're going to screw up. We don't really care. We all screw up all the time. But we have a lot of good players around us who will help us when we do. I think that puts people at ease. And I think it's easy to fit in with Seth. I knew him from Columbus. I know him as a person. He's as good a guy as there is. That was a no brainer. That's easy. And then. And Marshy is the same. He's almost like a planet. He has so much energy. It's unique. And he. He has that presence. He walks in the room and it's. It's on. It's just he. It's the Marshy show, but in. In a really good, positive way. And then the final piece of it is, is they're really kind to each other. Everybody. They're just a decent, Decent fellas.

[Pat McAfee]

Decent boys down there. The Florida Panthers. Good man. Is there a way to identify all those things? You said the room can take anybody. Is there a way to identify people that can't fit into there? Or do you legitimately think any person that is good enough hockey player will buy into the culture immediately upon getting to the Florida Panthers? And with that being said, I don't know if you know this TSN up there in Canada, three of the top five free agents, all Florida Panthers. Good luck. Good luck, Bill. Good luck, Bill.

[Bill Zito]

Good luck, Bill. You know, so there's going to be some poor soul who we're going to ask to move down here, maybe get a big house on Los Olas, have to take a golf cart to work in flip flops. And you might have to play with Kachuk or Barkov or Horsling. And it. It. I know it's a tough ask.

[Darius J. Butler]

Goalie.

[Bill Zito]

You know, someone will want to.

[Pat McAfee]

A.J.

[Bill Zito]

Will come out of retirement, put skates on.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, A.J. actually.

[Evan Cohen]

Yeah. Bill, you. You mentioned earlier, we're talking about the culture and everything. And you said, like Pat was saying, hey, every sip of water, every single moment, like, intentional.

[Pat McAfee]

We're.

[Evan Cohen]

We're all working for the same goal. Like you mentioned, you got to do. You got to have that culture but not go overboard with silliness. As you said, we've seen coaches and GM try to come in and, like, implement a culture and go over the top and almost be corny and cheesy with it. How do you find that balance in how you do, like, what you do? Ask of your players.

[Bill Zito]

So, for me, trial and error, right? And I look back, and I was probably that cheesy guy that was over the top trying to, you know, are the shoelaces tied? Right. You know, is. Is the print on the water bottles the right way? I don't know. I'm making that up. But I think what happened was, as these pros, like, pretty good at what they do, and so they know the details. And the coaches. The coaches will specify, okay, here are the things we need to work on. And then the other things it was. I had been an agent for a number of years, so that helped me as well. Like, there's just things you don't need to worry about. We used to wear a suit and tie on the plane, on the road. So you'd go to an FBO where you'd see no one with a suit and tie on, and then fly three hours, land at an FBO and not see anyone. So we got rid of that. Little things like that that maybe make life easier and let them focus on hockey, but at the same time, there is a time and place for suit and tie. And so that's when we wear it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Once you establish the discipline and the attention to detail, if it's already there, then you can kind of evolve with the culture as it goes. I just from somebody that our show, I think, is big on, like, the locker room mattering. Like, the locker room matter. I think we talk about that a lot more so maybe than any other show in the history of sports media. Sports television, because it matters more than anything. And with what you guys have, it's very evident that it is working, that it is a good one. And I think hockey people appreciate the culture that you guys have in representing hockey as the champs. Now, you mentioned a guy there who walks into a room and takes it over. Let's go to Boston Bruins fan, Boston Conner, Bill Zito. You stole hockey love out of his heart with one trade this year.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Thanks a lot, Bill. Really ruined the entire hockey season for me, and I blame that solely on you. When you guys trade for Marchand, obviously, I believe it was right after he got hurt or during his injury. What's that like, kind of trading for a guy where, you know, right when he gets there, he's not gonna, you know, get on the team immediately. He's gonna have to go through a little bit of a process there. And also, did you go to Dairy Queen at all? The DQ seemed to be sort of a good luck charm. And Brad said the boys did it before game six.

[Bill Zito]

Yeah, well, when we, you know, when we acquired him, we knew what his injury was, and we knew sort of the time frame of recovery. And so that wasn't that big of a deal. We. We thought that he had enough time to play meaningful regular season games, to prepare. And I mean, he's Brad Marchand, so you know what his playoff pedigree is. That part wasn't really a big concern. I guess if he had arrived and had struggled, we would have been, oh, boy. But that worked. Out. Okay. Yeah, I'd say I did not go with the boys to dq, but they, they went. I think it started in, in Carolina and then, then they remember Marcia had honey during a game and someone asked him, he said oh yeah, that was a blizzard. And then it took off and then I turned do think that they went in Edmonton. So you know what, that's just a great example, a great example of something that you pointed out, Pat. They have a good time. They're having fun. Yeah. They like to eat ice cream. They're burning the calories.

[Pat McAfee]

They got good taste buds though too, Bill. They got Dairy Queen blizzards. I put Dairy Queen blizzards at the top of snacks, dessert.

[Bill Zito]

They'll bring it back for everybody. That will tell you as much about the trip there is when you come. You know, they were there because in, in the lounge there's DQ for everybody when Barkov comes back from Finland. There's finished chocolate on everybody's desk and in everybody's stall. And I heard a great story about Barkov from last night. Apparently he went home at like 5 in the morning to change and clean up before they kept going and walked around his neighborhood and banged down everybody's front door. Hey.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. That is like the perfect team. You have like the perfect team right now. Oh, the boys go get Dairy Queen blizzards for everybody. You hear about this in like youth camps like high school. This sounds like a high school type operation. Can you bottle it? With that being said, it is professional. You guys have won a lot and you got some great players that other teams are going to want to try to pluck. Go ahead, Ty.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, Bill, Pat mentioned it. You know, you obviously, obviously got three massive guys who are free agents right now who made, you know, a huge impact on your team when it comes to those guys in particular. And then maybe just free agents as a whole. The, the hockey speaks for itself, obviously. Winning back to back cups. How much when you go into negotiations are you hammering? Like hey, the no state income tax, the amenities you talked about being able to drive a gar. A golf cart, you know, to the facility and flip flops, the golf, all that kind of stuff like how, how much of that is coming into the negotiations. Whereas these guys probably already know what the hockey is going to be like. You guys are going to compete for a cup, you know, year after year.

[Bill Zito]

Yeah, well those guys know, right, because they live here now. So. So that one it's we're going to spend to the cap and the Viola family ownership has, has empowered us to try to do everything we can to have the best team we can. So it. I don't. We're going to spend it all. It's just trying to keep everybody together and have a meaningful team. And if players sign up to come here, we want to be able to also have other good players. So hopefully they. They can appreciate that. Sometimes when someone's coming in from the outside and we're trying to sell them on what we're trying to do, there's the hockey piece piece, but the environmental piece, I'll call it. Right. The weather, the fun, the. The flip flops, that's all part of it. Because it's too hard to not be happy when you're at the rink. We're asking an awful lot of you. It's an 82 game schedule. It's constant travel, it's away from your family, it's the grind when you're not doing the work that you're doing at the rank. Drink, enjoy yourself, be happy. And that and that. Look, it kind of works here in our environment, but it's also a mindset of how we're trying to do things. So I think they work in tandem. And, you know, so far, a few guys have bought in. The other, the other piece of this, our coaches have managed. If you look at the people who have come to our team, whether via trade or via free agent agency, almost to a man, they've had their best career years with us. And that. That's the room, right? That's the players making other players better. That's the coaches making other players better and using them to their strengths. When Seth Jones came here, his job was just be Seth Jones. You don't have to be anything more. Just you be yourself because you fit here with us. And to the extent that we can keep that going for, for most of the players that we bring in, I think it'll work.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Marshy is a third liner, you know, like that is. Yeah. Him getting to take on people that he would have never faced with the Boston Bruins because where he is and then obviously he's. I mean, we're dangling, folks. Not that he didn't do that before, but it's just like his confidence, everything just fitting in with you guys was beautiful to watch. We're big fans of Marcy. We are big fans. Fans of the way he operated. Liked him in Boston hard. He is a Florida Panther legend, isn't he? Yep. Absolutely.

[Bill Zito]

And what he did for those kids on his line, so they're men, but I mean, they're They're. They're young players, and he made them better. He pulled them into the mix. He helped them. It was like having a tutor with you at work all day, every day when you're doing your tasks.

[Pat McAfee]

And a hilarious one. Yeah, you know, also. Absolutely. Yeah, exactly. Last question here from Pittsburgh native AP Town.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Bill, it looks like you're at the facility. So do you get no time off? When are you going to go see the boys again? And are you. For those free agents, are you allowed to take advantage of them today? They're pretty inebriated, probably. Are you allowed to just throw a.

[Pat McAfee]

Contract today, get them on microphones?

[Bill Zito]

Yeah, if I can, I will. I'm not sure they'll even be able to write. I have to do fingerprint.

[Pat McAfee]

Early reports are. No, they would not be able to write from what we've been seeing from elbow room. Don't want to out anybody.

[Bill Zito]

I think. I think we might all get together as a group tonight, and so we'll see everyone again there. And I mean, these guys are really earned this. They're having a great time, and they're with the fans. It's. It's a neat relationship. If you saw the parade last year, it was. It was a dangerous thunderstorm and. But nobody left. Everybody got drenched, and you sort of that galvanized kind of that relationship. So I know that it's important to them, you know, just to go with a cup to the local watering holes and just kind of have a good time with the fans.

[Pat McAfee]

We talked about this in the last hour. We talked about this in the last hour. There's people probably down there in South Florida. We don't want to judge a book by its cover. From Pittsburgh, a hockey. You know, South Florida, everybody judges a media like, oh, they don't deserve it. They don't deserve it. But the people down in South Florida, I think last year, if they weren't hockey fans or maybe new hockey fans, they saw how awesome it was to be a Florida Panther fan, and then they follow you guys all year. I think it's only growing. I assume you feel that as well, right? The fan base.

[Bill Zito]

Oh, yeah, it's growing and then. And. But the feeling from the players, it mirrors that. It's real. Like, they're like, these fans are awesome. We have so much fun. They feel totally comfortable. I don't know where they are right now, but I guarantee you they could walk into any place and right now in Fort Lauderdale, walk in and have a great time with whoever's in there and laugh and sign autographs and take selfies and have a couple beers and enjoy themselves.

[Pat McAfee]

How many beers go in Lordo, Bill? Do you know?

[Bill Zito]

Say it again.

[Pat McAfee]

How many beers are in the cup of Lordo? Stanley Cup? How many beers in the top?

[Bill Zito]

I don't know.

[AJ Hawk]

It was six and a half to seven.

[Pat McAfee]

Seven beers. Okay. Good luck. I think you. That's what you got to do, Bill.

[Evan Cohen]

All at once.

[AJ Hawk]

Could you imagine like a boot? Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. Yeah, like the boot. You got to turn it, too. Congratulations, man. I know you're not only doing amazing things with the Florida Panthers, but you're also doing amazing things in the community. Panthers on the Prowl is an initiative for the American Cancer Society that you and your wife back. Wonderful, amazing stuff happening down there with the Florida Panthers. You obviously a massive piece of it. It's beautiful to watch hockey kind of captivate an entire region and obviously make the world better. So thank you for what you're doing for sports and your community, Bill.

[Bill Zito]

Thank you guys so much. Yeah, we're just trying to. This was a nice way to combine the hockey and the Panthers with the charitable element to try to raise money to fight cancer and then to get people something sort of tangible that they can personalize and make it their own and then display them. And we're going to have a whole kind of an elaborate auction in the fall as well.

[Pat McAfee]

All right.

[Bill Zito]

It's a lot of fun.

[Pat McAfee]

I think I read that if I donate 5,000 bucks, I get to design a Panther statue that'll be placed around town that will then be auctioned.

[Bill Zito]

You do, you do it, and in this, I'll accept that as a contract in the state of Florida.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. No problem. I'm not even boozed up like the boys are. You need to go get Sam Bennett to do this. Darius Butler also absolutely in.

[Darius J. Butler]

Thank you, Bill.

[Pat McAfee]

The Butler fight is going to do it as well.

[Bill Zito]

All right, we got. I got two down.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. Hey, no problem. I'm sure.

[Bill Zito]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm sure there'll be more Panthers on the Prowl helping the American Cancer Society. A.J. will also like one, won't you, A.J. absolutely like one.

[Evan Cohen]

I'm in.

[Pat McAfee]

I think the elbow room needs to buy one, too, don't you?

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, maybe a couple.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we'll put one in the Elbow room.

[Bill Zito]

I volunteer to go down on that. On that sales mission.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I think right now would be a good time. Time to do that. We appreciate. Congratulations. Back to back. Stanley Cups. 8th franchise in the history of the league to be able to accomplish that. Feat 13th time in total in the modern era. You're the man. We appreciate you, Bill.

[Bill Zito]

Thank you very much. Appreciate it. And thanks for the support on the cancer initiative.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, no problem at all. Thank you for offering up the opportunity. Ladies and gentlemen, Bill zito. Yeah, Bill. A.J. wasn't going to do it.

[AJ Hawk]

No, no. I had had to throw his hat.

[Evan Cohen]

Wait for 5k. I get to make a statue that goes up somewhere.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's called Panthers on the crowd.

[Evan Cohen]

Can the statue be anything that I design? Like it's my design.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Evan Cohen]

I'm an artist.

[Ty Schmidt]

By the way, we saw on TV the other day, we saw one of your favorite artists.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Picasso was on true tv.

[Evan Cohen]

I heard he's going mainstream. Be careful, be careful. A little different version, a little different versity, but they're related.

[AJ Hawk]

Same to type of paint.

[Evan Cohen]

He uses all his tools. He uses every tool he was born with to make painting cool.

[Pat McAfee]

It was on True. We have one of the TV set up for True TV because there was a sport happening. And then we turn on all the TVs in the morning and then there's this guy, cheeks out. Blurring blur left corner. Painting cheeks out.

[Evan Cohen]

Feel like a mainstream thing.

[Pat McAfee]

It was on true tv. And Danny Bond Ducci was there.

[Conner Marshy]

He was.

[Pat McAfee]

Saw him on True TV Legends back this morning.

[Conner Marshy]

He's a well on True TV.

[Pat McAfee]

It's interesting. True TV's diverse portfolio very. They got coffin flop all the way to like NHL Final Four. Final Four. Seriously, Coffin flop.

[AJ Hawk]

Dude still trying to save it, man. Corn cob tv.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what true TV kind of is. And then they got contracts through the Turner deal where they got like real. So we put on the sport and then the overnight, you know, for a long time for linear television, a lot of ratings is overnight for games. So people have their TVs on at night. As we're Lord Stanley Cups beating the hell out of a microphone.

[AJ Hawk]

He'S thinking about run away.

[Pat McAfee]

But the overnight, you know, keeping the TV on, falling asleep, wake up. Those linear numbers have been something that have been a big deal. You know, like overnight into the morning. Kind of just carryover for us as true tv. Carryover has been pretty electrified. You have no idea what's coming on that lower left screen in there. NBA Finals resume tomorrow night. Game six in Indianapolis, Indiana. All eyes are on whether or not Tyrese Halliburton will be playing. It'll be a game time decision. Coach Rick Carlisle on local radio here in Indianapolis said they are obviously preparing for him to play and for him not to play. That's why he is a game time decision. Sure. So that's. Did you see that? That got taken. There's a couple people that just said he's preparing for Tyrese Alberta not to play. And then the other half of the quote was. But also. Yeah, it's game conversation. We have to have two different plans here. And I see him, Oklahoma City. Guess what they have. They're probably having two different plans as well.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

If Tyrese is playing, if he's banged up, if he's not playing. Depending upon what it is. This Oklahoma City team is unbelievable. And they have. They've certainly showed their teeth here. Like they.

[Conner Marshy]

Yes, they have.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, like Oakmont on Sunday.

[Conner Marshy]

Very similar. Very similar.

[Pat McAfee]

I believe Dan Orlovsky will be joining us here in a matter of moments. He. He and the 23 others that he golf with yesterday raised $400,000 for.

[AJ Hawk]

Wow, that's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

When he did 100 holes of golf, it was raining all day. He said it's been nothing but rain in Connecticut this summer. I guess Connecticut just getting rained on. I assume it's very green out there. The rain can obviously, obviously affect things. He was wearing two gloves.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Might have saved him.

[Conner Marshy]

Oh yeah, definitely.

[AJ Hawk]

For sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Might have saved him from this entire thing.

[Evan Cohen]

He played 100 holes.

[Darius J. Butler]

How long did it.

[Evan Cohen]

100 holes in one day your hands would be gone.

[Pat McAfee]

He said he felt okay. He said we'll ask him whenever he joins us. We got a little bit more information on Jair Alexander's deal. $4 million deal, up to $6 million in total, with 2 million obviously in incentives there. Wow. Who knows what the incentives are. There's team based, there's it personal based. I, I assume we'll learn at some point. But if that's like playoff bonus and then super bowl bonus for the 2 million or if it's Pro bowl, all Pro, different stuff. We shall see. Go ahead.

[Ty Schmidt]

Tone from Garofalo. Alexander can earn 500k for each of the following playing time thresholds. 35%, 40%, 45% and 50% of the playing time.

[Pat McAfee]

Those are each 55%.

[Conner Marshy]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

So if he's healthy. All right. That's exactly, exactly what the deal is.

[AJ Hawk]

Great deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Brilliant incentives too, for both sides and Jair. And approve it deal one year. You make more money if you play. And also you get a bigger deal if you play.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Feels motivated. What a great idea.

[Evan Cohen]

I mean, it makes sense for everybody. You get J. Alexander a franchise type corner on a great deal that he is going to be Highly, highly motivated. Not only to chase a ring, but also he knows what it can do for him as an individual player, too. Like, if he has a great year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, maybe Baltimore ends up having to pay him a shit ton of money after this year. There's a chance. I mean, that defense can be legendary. Joining us not steal. Six million bucks in total is a steal. J. Alexander, if he can remain healthy.

[AJ Hawk]

But top corns, we're getting 20 even.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. At least 15, 13, 12, 10. Something. Something in that where I assume 10 million bucks.

[AJ Hawk]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Is what J in my head. Jer Alexander, 10 million bucks. Especially if it's going to be a prove a deal. Instead it's a 4 million with 6 million. Congrats to the Baltimore Ravens and congrats to Jair getting a deal. Seemingly he was able to get more elsewhere, I think is what Schefter was saying. But he's picking the Baltimore Ravens.

[Darius J. Butler]

Talk about him going to a winner.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, exactly. Baltimore Ravens have a chance to go do it all. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who golfed 100 holes yesterday and helped raise $400,000 for ALS research. He is the guru for the NFL on ESPN whenever the football season takes place. In the off season, he's just dad. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlofsky. Dad season. That's what he's in right now. Did not know you were wearing that works out perfectly. Dano, thank you for doing what you did yesterday. You're a good man.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Oh, man. I'm the smallest part of the big puzzle. It's. I was. I think the people, if I get it right, the people who. Two guys who coordinated the most, I think are Corey Sullivan and Alex Litt, who I think both lost parents. I want to say to ALS and those guys, I mean, Pat, you know what it's like to put on events like they hustle for and grind for sponsorships and people and, you know, kind of airtime, I guess, or awareness. And they've done a remarkable job. I think in three years. They started three years ago. They've raised over a million bucks. So they've done an awesome job.

[Pat McAfee]

Unbelievable work by them and shout to you for putting it onto our radar. We saw you were wearing two gloves because it was rainy. Do you think that helped with the fingers? Do you think you didn't get as many blisters because the fingies and how does the body feel after golfing a hundred holes?

[Dan Orlovsky]

I feel totally normal. It doesn't feel like a put on your holes yesterday at all. So I. I don't have any muscle though. Like, so I think people who had, like, A.J. like, if he had to swing and turn that much. But I don't. Look at me. I don't have any muscles, so I feel normal. The two gloves, they're rain gloves, so the two gloves that, like, they. It wasn't just me rocking two gloves. They're rain gloves. So how often do you. My hands feel fine.

[Pat McAfee]

You a two glove golfer? You get those weird sun lines?

[Conner Marshy]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

On both hands. I do. Looks like you got the white gloves on like you're a mortician.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, I got a good. I got a good 10 there for my apple watch. So. Yeah, this a good ball right here. I absolutely tattooed this drive.

[Pat McAfee]

You remember every shot or just this particular post?

[Darius J. Butler]

Swing 63.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Very Ernie Ells, like.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay, slow down.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I hit it well yesterday. Yes, yes, Yesterday I hit it well. I missed some big putts at the end, though. Chuck and I finished in, I think, like a bunch of different groupings of how they do gross and net. We finished, I think, in third in one of them. And I missed three birdie putts in the last four holes.

[Pat McAfee]

So. So. Oh, are you guys playing as, like a scramble or is everybody playing their own ball?

[Dan Orlovsky]

So the first. The first 72 holes, maybe first 54 holes, everyone plays their own ball, like, and it's a two man team, Chuck and I. Everyone plays their own ball. Each team, each two man team's got to get a score right. And then it's, you know, they added up score. And then I believe the next 36 holes were a shamble, which is everybody hits the drive. You choose the drive that you like the best out of your two man team, and then you play your own ball from there. And then the final nine holes were a scramble, which is everyone's hitting the shot, and then you choose the best shot going into the green. And then the final hole, everyone played together. 18th hole, everyone played together.

[Pat McAfee]

Love that. When did you start? When did you finish in the day? First tea.

[Dan Orlovsky]

First ball went in there at 5am so we use like glow in the dark balls for the first, I want to say two holes. And then we like sprinted to get done at 8:35. We probably finished putting 8:35, 8:40.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Hey, great work. Great work.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you been able to keep up with all the news around the NFL? I know you have your own own.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Contract negotiations going on.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, no.

[Pat McAfee]

We heard it was good news, didn't we? We heard it was good news.

[AJ Hawk]

He's out of here.

[Pat McAfee]

But we don't know. We don't know. No, that's not great. That would not be great news.

[AJ Hawk]

You never know either beholder, as they say.

[Pat McAfee]

And from what we were reading on the Internet and some of the reports, it sounds like things are slowing down in that particular world. I don't know if you're back to focusing on ball now or what are we. What do we got? And being dad, you know, are we. Where's Dan Orlovsky at right now? Life cycle, by the way.

[Dan Orlovsky]

There's so many people that now that I'm around that say the word Dan or Dan the way you do with your Pittsburgh accent.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. It's a better way to say Don to be.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, yeah, I agree. I probably do it too much now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yesterday, though, can be left.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah. Yes, yesterday. Yeah, yesterday.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That can go down the pipe a little bit. Yeah. You know, if I had to.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I would say that that report feels accurate. It's close. It's not done.

[Darius J. Butler]

Welcome back.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I haven't signed anything, you know, I haven't, you know, nothing, I guess is in. In concrete till it's on paper and signed, but it. It feels to be in a good place. Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

We're proud of you. Happy for. You've earned it, buddy. You've earned it. Dino, you've earned it.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

You have earned it with great football. Takes some of them great in their own ways. Sure driving a lot of chatter, you know.

[Conner Marshy]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

That chatter might have been negative towards Dan, but it's still chatter matter other takes. Wow. I didn't think about that. Thank God Dan watched all the film, so we didn't have to. We're appreciative of everything you've done and we're proud of you. We're happy for you as well on that front. Let's talk a little bit about football. Aaron Rodgers to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Whenever you were given one of your last takes before this entire contract negotiation thing became a thing, you said the Pittsburgh Steelers have the worst quarterback situation in the history of football. You could see them losing the first six games because all the other quarterback rooms are better than the Pittsburgh Steelers. You put the jets in there. Jets obviously just signed Justin Fields to $20 million a year quarterback. You put the Vikings in there. The vikings obviously have J.J. mcCarthy. We assume they'll be okay. I think you put the Cleveland Browns in there. They have literally the worst. If you were to accurately describe the situation with their quarterback room with Deshaun Watson's Deal maybe the worst quarterback room in the history of football just from a contractual setup up, if you will. You said they're better than. All those teams are better than Steelers with where they were with Mason Rudolph. Now Aaron Rodgers on that team. Arthur Smith had been building an offense for Aaron Rodgers. Obviously the bullies are buzzing over there. What are your thoughts on the Pittsburgh Steelers with Aaron and how does he fit in with that particular offense in your eyes?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, ever since Aaron signed there, my, my thought is that they're in the worst place they can be in as a football team and as an organization for the future. So the reason I say it is this. Anyone who tells you that Aaron can't play at a high level anymore just doesn't like Aaron the person or some of the things that he said. Aaron can still play. So he's good enough with where their roster. I think their roster is a solid roster to probably win you 10 games which is going to flirt with being in the playoffs or you know, having a playoff game. They're not good enough to go beat the Baltimore Ravens, the Buffalo Bills, the Kansas City Chiefs, the Denver Broncos. They're not so to matter in the playoffs if they peak out. They're not good enough. They're also not bad enough to get a top five, top seven, top ten draft pick because of again the head coach, the talent around the roster and Aaron. So it's like you can we continue to kick the can down the road, so to speak. So Aaron's an absolute upgrade. I still think the offense has some big question marks. This offensive line was a issue last year. Unless they get markedly better. Markedly better. Better in their pass protection, that'll create some problems. DK is a superstar. They don't really have somebody opposite DK that's viable to hurt defenses. And nowadays in the NFL like Friar Moose are really good tight end, but I'm talking a perimeter guy. I don't have anybody that's really going to fear or scare defenses.

[Pat McAfee]

So.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, good player.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, potentially. There's a lot of guys out there, Steve. And also.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, but like, but look at it from this perspective like just with the way football is played in the NFL nowadays, it's very different offense wise than it was five years ago. The game is. And Deebot and AJ would know this, you know, really from the, the X's and O's point. Football is so different than it was five or six years ago. Five, six years ago in the NFL was so spread out we were trying to stretch sideline to sideline Nowadays in the NFL. And Mina and I were talking about this the other day because of. Of, I think, the infusion of the Shanahan tree and so many formations being shrunk down, people are playing a little bit more compact on offense, so they're trying to play a little bit more physical football. And they're also trying to shrink you down on a defense and then take advantage of some of the space on the perimeter rather than the space in the middle of the field. So Buffalo's got like seven guys that are really good options. Baltimore's got like seven guys that are really good options, plus a dominant run game. Kansas City, multiple options that are legit. Top two guys. The Denver Broncos have added offensive talent. The Cincinnati Bengals, we know. So it's like as far as Pittsburgh goes, you got two guys in the past game that you really have to focus on. And then everyone else is like, okay, we're going to make you beat us.

[Pat McAfee]

Seems like you don't want to say the Steelers are going to be good. And I want to let you know, people in Pittsburgh have heard that as soon as you start talking, Tone over there started getting his little evil eye. And when you said the Denver Broncos the first time he said. Did he just say the Denver Broncos? And then whenever you reiterated the Denver Broncos again, the Broncos are going to.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Be better than the Steelers.

[Pat McAfee]

Tyler, would you like to say anything to Dan Orlovsky about his take about your Pittsburgh Steelers? This could become second take you from.

[Ty Schmidt]

Now until week six. Just pre. If Dan's on, pretend I'm not here.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean?

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't want to talk to this guy. I don't want to look at this guy.

[AJ Hawk]

Respect.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't want to do. All right, well, let's move on then. I guess. There's real heat between Pittsburgh and Dan Orlovsky. Dan, you asked for that, though. You asked for the city of Pittsburgh to act the way that they're acting towards you. You did. You decided, I've got a full folder of Dan.

[Dan Orlovsky]

So like I said last year during the season when I said the offense wasn't going to be good enough and everyone told me I was a complete idiot, and then we get the. The, you know, the end of the season and the offense wasn't good enough.

[Pat McAfee]

Heavy is the head, says Dan Orlowski.

[Ty Schmidt]

If you watched any ball, it was the run defense.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't know ball says Pittsburgh. With that being said, excited to watch this team. Got hopes up. You know, got my hopes up. They gotta sign TJ Watt. Why isn't that done? Who knows? All right, let's move along, shall we? Connor has a question for you.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, Dan, I was just joking around. It's great to see the stuff you did yesterday was really cool. I'm not going to ask about the Patriots because I know how you feel about them. 11:12 wins probably this year. Mike Vrabel, Josh Drake, May, they're going to be fantastic. But quarterback questions in Atlanta, what do you think the Falcons are going to do or should do with Kirk Cousins? It feels like not everyone's going to take that that contract, but that many teams could use him as their QB1 what do you think happens down there?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, I think that's the nicest 30 seconds you and I have ever had. So I'm going to say thank you to the to you in that regard. It's a good step in our relationship. So by far I think Atlanta is interesting. 2 regards so when we did their Monday night game during the season last year, sitting down with Raheem Morris is their head coach coach like he was so adamant in regards to the drafting of Penix after they gave Kirk all that money was like I know what it's like in this league to not have a good starting quarterback. I'll never experience that. I won't be the head coach of a team that doesn't have that plan in place. And so while Penix is the future, there's no question, I really don't think that Atlanta is just going to move off Kirk because, you know, it makes sense in other people's eyes or you know, they're paying him all that money to be the backup. They were going to pay him that money to be the starter and get to the playoffs this year anyway. So whether they're paying him that money to be the starter and Penix takes him to the playoffs or they're paying him that money and at some point they have to turn to him and he can re kind of regain some of his past success and form and get to the plus. That's all that I don't think this organization is going to move off of perk just because they're paying him a ton of money to be the backup. And I do think Atlanta is really, really, really interesting because there's a lot of strong belief in Penix. They loved them last year. What happens if Penix comes out and is just an absolute dog? Like what happens if Penix their offense is loaded, they got really good perimeter players, their offensive line be top 10 in the NFL. Penix could be and then all of a sudden like Atlanta becomes a really, really big player in the nfc. So I, I think there's really high expectations at the quarterback spot for Michael Pennix in, in Atlanta and I honestly think he's capable of like being in a problem in that division.

[Pat McAfee]

So he might be the answer to this question from dbut.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah, you talked about very highly of Pinnock, obviously Connor brought up Drake May. You got Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels, Bonix, all these guys. Guys. Which, which one of these guys out of that bunch do you think makes the biggest jump this year, this season?

[Dan Orlovsky]

If I had a bet on one it would be Bryce. I would tell you. Bryce Young, I just, I think the, what he went through last year and not breaking and then having some of the success he had at the end of the season and then the addition of Tet McMillan. You know, one of the things that probably doesn't get talked about enough in regards to the whole situation in Carolina is Canal is a really good coach and we've got three different places where he's gone and been their coach and he's had success. So I, I believe in their head coach, I believe in the young quarterback. This is also an offensive line that's going to be really physical and really good. And so I think Bryce Young just rebounding the way he did last year. I love the Tet McMillan addition, you know, like D. But think about their perimeter players. You're talking 64 and 6 4. So they're just physically a problem. And I go back to you know, when the Titans probably under Arthur Smith six years ago, seven years ago had AJ Brown and gosh, who was else was the other big bodied receiver that they had, Western Michigan, but they just.

[Conner Marshy]

Had overall Corey Davis.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, big bodied guys that just physically present problems. And so you know, Bryce was the number one pick. Not because he wasn't talented, he just went through some tough times his rookie year and some. So I do think highly of a lot of the young kids but I think Bryce is on the board to take a really big jump.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's talk about another young kid in the league. He's an adult. Yeah, grown ass man. As we lead into a college World Series game here on espn, who's going to be be playing? Ty. And why should we be watching?

[Conner Marshy]

We got Louisville and Coastal Carolina, first pitch at 2:00pm If Coastal Carolina wins this game, they are going to move on to the championship series. Louisville has to, you know, beat them and then they're looking at, you know, winning another game. So right now we got four teams left, two teams with one loss. Two teams who have not lost yet. If both those teams who have not lost yet win, we have our championship series set. And you should watch it because all these games have had many fireworks probably going down to the late innings. Louisville yesterday won with a walk off in the bottom of the ninth.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom.

[Conner Marshy]

So, yeah, you know, coastal Carolina's won 25 in a row. Something's got to give today. We'll see. We got a spot in the championship series online.

[Pat McAfee]

Louisville was up 6, 3 going into the ninth inning. Oregon State tied it up. Then Louisville gets the win. Win. That'll continue here. We'll continue digitally. Goodbye. I think we did it.

[AJ Hawk]

That was, that was, I think that was very great work by you guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Good time. That was really good out of us. I'm so proud of us for pulling.

[Conner Marshy]

That off, you know, I mean, what, what a lead into that game too, you know?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Highlights. Walk off. See, you said walk off. And I think a lot of people who maybe didn't know the outcome thought walk off. Bomb. Sure. Especially as no sacrifice. That's calling baseball. Walk off.

[Conner Marshy]

Sack fly, baby.

[Pat McAfee]

Can't corn. And they celebrated with the guy who hit the sack fly, not the guy who was injured at home plate for sliding into home plate.

[Conner Marshy]

Correct. Which is what you do.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Why would you throw two, one hook?

[Pat McAfee]

What's that, Dano?

[Darius J. Butler]

Why? I was thinking the same thing.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Why would you with bases loaded, tie game, count two, one, throw a hook.

[Pat McAfee]

It's his best pitch.

[Conner Marshy]

I mean, he missed it.

[AJ Hawk]

He was trying to see, he was.

[Conner Marshy]

Trying to throw, you know, he's trying to get the, the bottom half of the plate there and induce a double play.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Induce a ground ball.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I don't know.

[AJ Hawk]

It's hard to like. He's not a flamethrower, man.

[Dan Orlovsky]

If you're not a flamethrower, you gotta hit your spot dunk.

[Pat McAfee]

What's the guy's name? What's the guy's name? You know his bag of pitches, Dan.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, the gourd on you.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't know.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Apparently, apparently you guys all do.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, we know that what you know is nowhere near what his coach or catcher coach is calling the pitch pitches.

[AJ Hawk]

Question.

[Darius J. Butler]

He gotta go slaughter.

[Pat McAfee]

You think he actually on the ground?

[Darius J. Butler]

Maybe a 2 Sam, is he a two pitch guy?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Is he just a fastball, curveball guy?

[Ty Schmidt]

Barry Zito of college baseball.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's got them all, dude. He's got them all. He's in the college World Series. How are you as a pitcher? Pretty good.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I was like the, like the, that story Little league baseball player. Like I was a ridiculous, ridiculous 12 year old baseball player.

[Pat McAfee]

Player. You're taller and bigger than everybody.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I, I would strike out everybody. I hit a home run, every at bat type of thing. And then I turned 13 and I stunk.

[Pat McAfee]

Man, those are good old days though. When you were that kid. Oh, oh my God.

[AJ Hawk]

Showing up to school in sixth grade.

[Pat McAfee]

All the girls, six home runs last night. Oh my God.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Then you get to junior high. Oh no.

[Dan Orlovsky]

This became batting practice.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, you couldn't throw the curveball ball.

[Bill Zito]

Dude.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I don't know what it was. I threw hard as a 12 year old and then I threw pus as a 13 year old. I didn't throw a good curve. I couldn't like I just wasn't good anymore and I, I was like a ridiculous hitter at 12 and then I just wasn't good anymore. I don't have any fast twitch muscle though.

[Pat McAfee]

So. How'd you play quarterback? Weren't you a pretty good quarterback? Don't you have pretty good arm? You talk about having no muscle and everything like that. Don't you have to have a pretty good arm play quarterback? Didn't you do good at Connecticut too?

[Conner Marshy]

Cover Sports illustrated?

[Darius J. Butler]

Like a 95 video game?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, I could throw, but it wasn't like I threw gas.

[Pat McAfee]

Like oh, you were a touch passer.

[AJ Hawk]

You were a little noodle arm.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I was a precision guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Precision guy. That's why you almost want us out of the Andrew Lux sweep stakes.

[Darius J. Butler]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

This precision was so good.

[Dan Orlovsky]

What a run. What a run.

[Pat McAfee]

It was. It was a good run. Classic, classic IRSA story there. So what are we doing here? We win it? Are we winning?

[Darius J. Butler]

Can imagine what's going.

[AJ Hawk]

What the hell.

[Pat McAfee]

We've, we've three quarters this season we've been fucking ass terrible. What are we doing?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Can't win a game. Why are we trying to win a game now Dan, I think if you.

[Pat McAfee]

I think if you would have played quarterback all year. I think Dan, maybe career Indianapolis Colt quarterback.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Bring honor potentially.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Probably now you'd still be playing.

[Pat McAfee]

I think probably he'd still be our quarterback. Dan, you came in.

[Dan Orlovsky]

That was some good times, man. Those are some fun games. I'll never forget like that Houston game on Thursday night. Because Houston cut me. Like fired me. Like told Rick Smith was the general manager and like that training camp. It was the third year of a three year deal. They gave me a three year Deal to go back up shop job. I got overpaid. There's no doubt about it or how good I was after the first year. Come to me second year, have to take a pay cut. And I'm like, what the fudge, dude? I don't want to take a pay cut, man.

[Pat McAfee]

It's like through 10, pick sixes.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, I want to take a pay cut. Gotta take a pay cut or like, you're gone. I'm like, gosh, third year you're gone. So they fire me. You're not good enough anymore. I think I got replaced by like Rex Grossman and Matt Leiner, Dogs. And so absolutely got.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, understandable.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Fired in camp. I think I went to camp with you guys that year. Fired in camp. I think I got cut like the last week of camp. And so I wanted. We've played Houston on Thursday night. TJ Yates, who's a coach in Atlanta now, was the starter. They had drafted him. That's when they went to the playoffs. But I think they like the two seed in the playoffs that year. I wanted to beat them so bad. Reggie, game winner.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Were you captain that game? I assume you were. Were.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I don't know if I was or not. I don't know if I was.

[Pat McAfee]

Should have went out there too.

[AJ Hawk]

Locked in, listening to music.

[Pat McAfee]

It was awesome watching old Dano. He had a great run. I thought you were going to be a guy. I thought you were get paid money and nobody views.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I'll never forget that sideline story. Remember the sideline story when we beat Houston and you're like, you are going to get so rich. Like you're going to be so rich because of this game.

[Darius J. Butler]

Good teammate.

[Dan Orlovsky]

And I was like, yeah, you're right. You know, there's no doubt I we are going to make. I'm going to get so much money this off season. That didn't happen at all, like remotely close.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But just know that that message was coming no matter what that message was from me at least, you know, did.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I ever share you the. The story with Clyde Christensen and going into week 17 at that point, so we had one, two in a row. We win week 17, we'll get like the two pick or something. The three pick. We get the three wins. We're playing at Jacksonville. We went on that Thursday night to get the second, second win of the season. So the second to last game. We win Thursday night. Coach Caldwell gave us that weekend off, if you remember. You guys got to be back I think on Wednesday or something, or Tuesday, whatever. My Wife was pregnant with triplets, and so I went home for the weekend. She had a routine doctor's appointment on Tuesday. I think we had to get back for Wednesday practice. Routine doctor's appointment Tuesday. She's like, a doctor's like, hey, let's just get the babies, like, get the kids out Tuesday or something like that today. Like, just because my kids were born the 28th, you're getting near the first. The first of the year. I think hospitals maybe are a little bit less staffed around that time because of holiday whatnot. Let's get them out. So I'm like, all right. So my kids were born on Tuesday. I flew back Tuesday night. Sleep at the facility. Wednesday morning, I'm trying to catch up, get ready for the game because again, you're trying to prove yourself all that. I'm busy as all get out during the week. Friday, I'm meeting with Clyde, who was our offensive coordinator. Clyde Christensen is the greatest human being on the history of the planet. You know, Clyde, like the nicest person. Great coach. And we're meeting for the game plan Friday afternoon, and we're going over things like, don't like plays. Hey, Clyde, call this play. Don't call this play all that. We get to third down. The first third and three call was like a sprint out, pick throw the flat route, and I go, clyde, call this to the right. Do not call this to the left. I cannot go left.

[Pat McAfee]

I can't flip my hips, Clyde.

[Dan Orlovsky]

What, I'm not athletic enough? Can't go left.

[Darius J. Butler]

Tough throw.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Gotcha. First third down of the game, we're backed up on, like, the six yard line. It's third and two, and I'm like, fudge, Clyde, do not call that play. Blah, blah, blah, blah. Sprint left. I'm like, dude, Paul, sprint left. I sail the flat route, hick return to, like, the five yard line. We end up losing that game.

[Pat McAfee]

I had a shank in that pun in that game as well. I had a shank. I think the guy took it to the house. I was not throwing.

[Dan Orlovsky]

You did?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Oh, yes, they did return a punt for a touchdown in that game.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I hit a shank last game of the year. 2 Average is what it is. You know, just trying to get through this whole thing.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I'd already been potential quarterback, I think, at this point, a couple different occasions.

[AJ Hawk]

So this is Houston.

[Pat McAfee]

No, Jacksonville.

[Dan Orlovsky]

This is at Jacksonville, Bill. Last play before the half, we call Hail Mary. I rip all the ligaments in my ankle. Like, I show up to the hospital after the Game and like crutches. My wife's bent over from a C section.

[Pat McAfee]

I was trying to hit the ball far when I shanked it. Just for the good of everything. Hindsight. Pretty pumped that we, you know.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Bet Jim was too.

[Pat McAfee]

Jim?

[Evan Cohen]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. What interest. Interesting situation. Dan, you were a great teammate and you're great on tv. I'm happy they got that deal done with you. Well, not yet, but I'm happy that you will continue to join us every hour of every day of our life for football season. Right? Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah. Can't wait.

[Pat McAfee]

Weren't we talking about that in the kind of our thing?

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, you know, we need Dano on TV every day of football season.

[Conner Marshy]

It's unsettling when he's not, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

And then there was a fear that.

[Conner Marshy]

Maybe he wasn't exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

We couldn't live with that.

[Conner Marshy]

No, I don't want to see this guy on CBS Sports hq.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Conner Marshy]

You know, no one.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody was going to see him.

[AJ Hawk]

Nobody.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Or any of the other places that were potentially offer.

[Darius J. Butler]

We do want D. We want. Look, new contract. New you. We want your own takes. All right? Just you. We don't want you fighting off, you know, just. You're good enough.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Thanks, D. Bud. I. I'll do everything I can to. Not to steal from Evan.

[AJ Hawk]

I want.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, everybody, not just. I mean, Evan, the latest victim.

[Darius J. Butler]

I think he's got some good stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

He starts the day.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Stop stealing from KY all around it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Dan watches it every morning.

[Pat McAfee]

Dan is on that show. And aren't you on that show sometimes?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, I'm usually on it during the season on Mondays, I think.

[Pat McAfee]

So that's when you steal their.

[Darius J. Butler]

It's a good day.

[AJ Hawk]

Take it for the rest of the week.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Nah, don't. Don't steal. No stealing from me. No stealing.

[Pat McAfee]

That's good. That's one of the sins, I believe. Want to do that? Steal from Evan Cohen and anybody else. You talk about young quarterbacks, Tone, as a question.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Can't choose from the chosen people, huh? You can't steal from the chosen people, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. What does that mean?

[Dan Orlovsky]

And steal from the chosen people.

[Pat McAfee]

People.

[AJ Hawk]

Chosen people.

[Dan Orlovsky]

What's the question, man?

[AJ Hawk]

What's the pop.

[Pat McAfee]

Sorry, I don't think I understood that. I like the way we're wording it, though.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sorry about earlier, Dan. That was Pittsburgh Tone. This is Hoosier Tone. I had a question about J.J. mcCarthy.

[Pat McAfee]

This is Indiana Tones.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Transplant. Are you still super high on J.J. mcCarthy? You think he's still going to be An All Pro this year and he's, you know, guaranteed to be successful.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I think he's going to be awesome this year, honestly. I totally believe, believe production wise he'll play very similar to what Sam did last year. There's one, there's, there's just a scheme and a, a roster talent in space that Minnesota is the easiest place in the NFL to play quarterback this year. It's the best as good an offensive roster as that we have in the NFL. And then you combine it with play scheme and, or scheme and play caller and Kevin o' Connell. A lot of guys would go to Minnesota and play good football. I think JJ's the, the skills that he has and the foundation that he has of he's a play on rhythm, listen to his feet. When it comes to where and when to throw the football, the timing of the way he plays the position, the way that he was taught to play the position at Michigan is perfect for what is the necessary stuff at playing that position in Minnesota. There's positions in the league that ask their quarterback to do different stuff. Like maybe that's not mandated to play on at time as much as the Minnesota offense is. It's not mandated to be exceptional in turning your back to the defense, losing sight of the defense and then snapping my head back and trying to find what or who I'm looking at. That's a skill set and that's something that takes hundreds of reps of getting comfortable doing with. He's got that from his time in Michigan. So you know when Kevin o' Connell can dial up these plays of these play action things, JJ doesn't have to think of, oh, it's a seven step drop to my left so it's really going to be an eight or nine step drop and when I do that I've got to flip my hips and when I try to, you know, see rotation and find the bat, he doesn't have. It's muscle memory for him. And so I think because of the offensive line and the people that they have, I think he's going to play really well.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, all right, Dano, we appreciate you taking time out of your life to join us. What's next? We got lacrosse. We got sports all summer. Baseball, golf. What's that?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, a bunch of lacrosse. My, my sons have a tournament in Massachusetts. My sons had a tournament in Long island this past weekend. We got, they play for Eclipse which is like mainly comprised of Darien, New Canaan, Westport kids. They won the World Series last year. The club team won The World Series last year. So. So Little League World Series.

[Pat McAfee]

The lacrosse World Series, yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

So in usually in sixth grade. Yeah, it's new in your 12 year old year. That's Little League baseball, Williamsport. That's usually when it happens in lacrosse. It's usually your 13 year old year. So your seventh grade summer. And so their eclipse team, so the kids who are like 20, 29 graduates, it goes by, it goes by. The World Series goes by age. They won the World Series last year. So the eclipse team of 20, 30 has the chance to win the World Series this year. This year. So yeah, a lot of that. My daughter's playing club lacrosse too, so she's got a tournament at Yale this weekend. A lot of lacrosse.

[AJ Hawk]

That team is probably nasty. Those towns in Connecticut are all very good.

[Pat McAfee]

Really?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, dude.

[Dan Orlovsky]

They're so good. They're so good. I would tell you this though. In Boston, Cotton, you the kids in Long island are freaking ridiculous, dude.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh yeah, they're different.

[Pat McAfee]

That's like all they call themselves cross people.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Yeah. Long island is damn near, you could argue the capital of, you know, high school lacrosse just because of how many recruits from Chaminade and some of the schools, St. Anthony's even some of the schools out there.

[Pat McAfee]

You're a PLL.

[Dan Orlovsky]

It's ridiculous.

[Pat McAfee]

You give a lot of love to PLL. What about the NLL? You watch the NLL ever?

[Dan Orlovsky]

I've seen clips of it. I. The PLL. I think Rapel has been great to, to my family. I love their, you know, watching games live for the pll. You know, like my, the, the coach that coaches at the high school here in our town, Westport. Staples High School, they won the state championship again this year. Third time in four years. So like lacrosse? Yeah. It's the best public program in the state right now. No doubt. Staples High School is the best public and they beat Darien in the state title. I mean Darian are still great, but right now Staples is the best public program in the state. Probably top five in the country.

[Pat McAfee]

And the Orlovsky's are going to carry that for the next 10 years.

[Dan Orlovsky]

If they work hard enough, they have a chance.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that. Always coaching, always getting better. And we get better every time you come on. We appreciate you, brother. Have a great one.

[Dan Orlovsky]

You're a good man, bud. Later, boys.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Connecticut is like one of those towns, New Canaan he mentioned. I'm pretty sure one of the best recruits for high school across played for New Canaan this year.

[Pat McAfee]

Bruce. A lot of lacrosse out there in Connecticut, eh? I didn't know that. Yeah.

[Evan Cohen]

On the women's side, Chloe Humphrey, freshman at UNC from Darien, won the Tuareton.

[Pat McAfee]

And the national championship. A freshman won the Tuare Ton. Yeah. Pretty wild.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[Evan Cohen]

Playing with both of her sisters.

[Pat McAfee]

They.

[Conner Marshy]

They transferred in for. For one year, and all three of them played together.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's stay with that microphone. Do we think lacrosse gets bigger or soccer gets bigger post Olympics?

[Evan Cohen]

Come on, now.

[Pat McAfee]

That's.

[Ty Schmidt]

Come on. In America.

[Pat McAfee]

We'll count Olympics.

[Evan Cohen]

We'll say we're talking the usa, so.

[Pat McAfee]

We'Re talking United States of America. America. Do we think the World cup spurs growth in soccer fandom more than the Olympics, spurring lacrosse fandom? After the Olympics, I'm going with lacrosse.

[AJ Hawk]

Just because how big the Big ten is getting into it. And I also saw a kid from an SEC club team got drafted to the pll, so the SEC teams, I assume, might start playing a little bit more lacrosse, which would be nice. I'm just saying if. If soccer's had its chance.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I think Ty's agreeing with you.

[AJ Hawk]

I think.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

I'm not a lax guy, but when we go.03, you know, in the World cup, that's not gonna happen. Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you, Gumpy. Lacrosse.

[Ty Schmidt]

Great sport.

[Pat McAfee]

Canada sport will never catch soccer.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, but he said. He said in America, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

It still won't America.

[Pat McAfee]

Soccer's massive in America.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I know.

[Pat McAfee]

No one was at the South Korea South African game last night. I get that.

[AJ Hawk]

Was it the only one?

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, come on.

[Conner Marshy]

But Gump, I'm saying, like, what about the U.S. national? Yeah, I'm saying our team is not going to perform well enough in the World cup that it's going to like.

[Pat McAfee]

That was not practice, AJ. That was a game. There's $100 million on a.

[Darius J. Butler]

No way.

[Pat McAfee]

That is a game.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's soccer. And it's not even close. That's like a pll normal game.

[Conner Marshy]

Right?

[Ty Schmidt]

Where people showing up.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so then we have to talk about what does success look like? Because it sounds like all Orlovsky's kids play play lacrosse. I think all of AJ's kids play lacrosse. I think there's a lot of people in Plum that are kids that are playing lacrosse. I don't know how much out here in Indianapolis, Indiana, how much it's really caught on, but it feels like a lot of kids are playing lacrosse. Would you say that as well, aj, as you're in the middle of it right now? Yeah.

[Evan Cohen]

My son had an 8am game against a team from Missouri this morning that I was at, so. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

How'd we do?

[Evan Cohen]

Oh, we won. His. His team. He's got some studs on his team. Yeah, it's one of those tribal teams. We got some. They got some dudes.

[Pat McAfee]

Got some Ohio guys out there. Huh. We playing a little physical brand of lacrosse or no?

[Evan Cohen]

Yeah, they got everything. Yeah, physicality, speed, talents.

[AJ Hawk]

These guys are crazy.

[Evan Cohen]

These. These kids are nuts.

[Pat McAfee]

For real.

[Evan Cohen]

Some of these couple of these kids are ridiculous.

[Conner Marshy]

He.

[AJ Hawk]

He would never say it, but he showed me some clips. His boy's got some skill now. Who's this if. If it's the same?

[Evan Cohen]

Hendrix.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Hendrix. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Really? Hendrix. Your oldest boy, he's good lacrosse player.

[Evan Cohen]

Yeah, he can be. I mean.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he can if he works hard. Yeah, I like that himself. I like he's watching this potentially you're seeing this clip. So he needs to know he has an opportunity. I think lacrosse does have a little bit of a boom going on.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I think soccer is already big in the United States. But like, if we're talking about people in the United States, like, I get Leo Messi is Leo Messi. Like no one gave a shit about the MLS till Messi got here.

[Pat McAfee]

Really.

[AJ Hawk]

And like, is that soccer being big or is that Leo Messi being big? Like, lacrosse will never be as big as soccer. Cuz the professional league, I don't think their wages are the same or even close to the mls.

[Pat McAfee]

Quite a head start.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. But as far as like growth of the game goes, I think if Team USA were to compete for a gold medal, like that's the thing about the US Soccer team.

[Conner Marshy]

Bingo.

[AJ Hawk]

They're not going to get to the semis or the quarters. The t. Team USA should make it all the way to the finals. At least the semis.

[Pat McAfee]

USA soccer team's going to beat her.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, they. Well, they have.

[Darius J. Butler]

I'm going to soccer too.

[Evan Cohen]

They have to be there in North America. They have to be there.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Evan Cohen]

They got to get in. We can't be locked out.

[Pat McAfee]

Right. We will physically be there. No, our team will physically be there and win.

[AJ Hawk]

They have.

[Conner Marshy]

I hope so.

[Pat McAfee]

We will. They will make it to the knockout round. There's no way they don't make it to the knockout.

[AJ Hawk]

Did Qatar make it to the knockout round?

[Pat McAfee]

We didn't. You're better than Qatar. I don't think we made it to the tournament.

[Evan Cohen]

The how many you have to win for that? How many games you got to win to get to the knockout?

[Pat McAfee]

You can even a win and a.

[Ty Schmidt]

Draw maybe get through.

[Pat McAfee]

Depends on what happens in your group. It all depends on what the group.

[AJ Hawk]

Looks like too, isn't it?

[Pat McAfee]

Sorry for supporting America, A.J. i apologize. Sorry. Yeah, sorry.

[Evan Cohen]

I'm sorry for saying our standards need to be higher. Maybe in America.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, you need to be sorry for not supporting this American team and nobody support them. They had a game the other night against Trinidad Tobago. 2000 people are in a 30,000 seat arena. I mean, that's not good.

[AJ Hawk]

Where at St.

[Pat McAfee]

I believe San Diego.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, so soccer State. Damn near. You could argue. I. But I do think the. The World cup is in our favor. Just because isn't our group USA and then Trinidad. Trinidad and Tobago. Trinidad and Tobago.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Conner Marshy]

Now if they made that stipulation and that's what we did for group play, I'd be. I'd be all in.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That we get a chance to play Trinidad Tobago every time.

[AJ Hawk]

Three times.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Evan Cohen]

Maybe Guam. Throw Guam in there.

[Conner Marshy]

I'm pretty sure we had our hands full with Guam last time we played him. So.

[Pat McAfee]

So lacrosse is sport of the future. Actually, no. It was for a long time.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's not.

[Conner Marshy]

I just.

[Ty Schmidt]

Be honest.

[Pat McAfee]

It's definitely not the future.

[Ty Schmidt]

For 20 years.

[Pat McAfee]

I know. But now it feels like it isn't.

[Evan Cohen]

Dipping because there is no. But there is no like. You're right. The professional game is not what other professional games are. But I feel like at least. Least in the Midwest for sure there's definitely more kids playing lacrosse now than ever.

[AJ Hawk]

And college lacrosse is. Is getting bigger. The pro, the pros, who knows as far as that goes. But I think like as a college sport, it'll definitely get bigger.

[Pat McAfee]

I think the NLL needs to continue to grow as well. That's good. That's good. Style across. Oh yeah, that's good. Style across. Not that PLL isn't. That's just big field, you know, see a lot of running. I enjoy that. That when they're in there mixing it up. Yeah, I mean that's when we really enjoy. We're going through the links.

[AJ Hawk]

How about old cuz highlights trainer Chris Cavanaugh?

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, Matt Trainor. Yeah. He had a filthy behind the back too.

[Pat McAfee]

Trainer goes behind the back like his first goal or whatever in pl. Filthy.

[AJ Hawk]

And that wasn't like a catch in front of the net behind the back. That was like he was. He was dodging down the right side. It was a long behind the back goal. It was nasty.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was absolutely nasty. Speaking of nasty, Caitlyn Clark. Clark and the Fever and the Connecticut sun got into it a little bit last night. Obviously it all started with an eye gouge into a knockdown from J.C. sheldon, who is an Ohio girl from what I've been told by A.J. hawk, who said she's not scared of nothing. And I believe Marion Mabry, who knocks her down later in the game, Caitlin Clark would pull up on jc, splash it and then talk her shit to the entire bench at the very end. But we weren't able to get. Before she hits her chest. Yeah. Boom. She is. She's the one. Yeah, she is everything she'll get after the refs, she'll get into some scraps. And immediately afterwards she said, I want here to talk about basketball. I mean, she's a needle mover and she's got an enforcer on the team now and a black belt having Sophie Cunningham. Don't look now. The Fever about to win WNBA title just like they're about to win the Commissioners cup. Also in WNBA, Sabrina Yanescu goes absurd. She has another 30 plus game, 34 points and goes absolutely maniacal out on the basketball court. And I think if you think about the future after this NBA series is over, after seven games, okay.

[AJ Hawk]

If needed, God willing, yeah, sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Amen. If tomorrow night isn't the last NBA game, which we don't think it will be, we think it will go to a game seven. We, we believe that. Then all eyes are on WNBA baseball in the NFL. Okay. Golf. And I think the WNBA rate and golf a lot of golf. F1, I think w tennis, Wimbledon.

[AJ Hawk]

Forget. Forget the F1 movie. Definitely.

[Pat McAfee]

Brad Pit.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Good early.

[Conner Marshy]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's going to be amazing. But the wnba, if you just kind of zoom in out a little bit, there's a lot of good story lines brewing. I mean, there is a lot of. There's a lot of stuff brewing out there. Now, is Caitlin Clark going to continue to just go splash, splash, splash, splash, splash, splash, splash for the rest of the season? Possibly. There is a chance that that happens. And if she continues to play like this, which is, you know, Caitlyn Curry Clark is where she's pulling up from everywhere and it's fallen. It's like she's going to continue to be must watch. I don't know if it's going to get to 20 something million. Okay. Like a.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

A parody account reported and everybody did that. But I think, I think Caitlyn and Sophie Cunningham, I think they are going to become must watch and I think it's good for the city of Indianapolis.

[Darius J. Butler]

What are the odds right now for the Fever to win it? I know Caitlyn is up there with the mvp, probably with big, big feast out in Minnesota.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't like these cheap shots, though. She got gouge in the eye. Yeah. Big time gouge in the eyes.

[Darius J. Butler]

Guy was in potential act out.

[Pat McAfee]

You see the fan cam? Smack right. Smack right. Now here it is. Boom.

[Darius J. Butler]

She got to wear goggles for the rest of this.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. Right to her eyes.

[Evan Cohen]

Some rec specs.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom.

[AJ Hawk]

And then she bops her too.

[Pat McAfee]

Then she bops her J.C. sheldon. And then maybe comes in and goes, what are you doing?

[Evan Cohen]

Rivalry's great. Rivalry is great for the league.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. But every team does this. Like last year with her, I feel like she didn't respond as much because she almost looked at it like, okay, I'm a rookie.

[Conner Marshy]

Cut my teeth.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, let me cut my teeth in the W. That makes sense. This year they're taking no. It is so awesome to see.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I enjoy it. I'm happy she's got Sophie on team.

[Conner Marshy]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

She needed that.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

She. She needed that on the team. And I, I wouldn't mind maybe some of the other members of the team, you know, doing some stuff, send some messages. I think rookie year, I know it's hard to just. It's a tough pill to swallow. Like, hey, this new one to the league is the one nobody really wants to acknowledge that. I think now we understand, right? I think now we're at the point of, hey, let's go. We got it. And that Fever team's filled with stars. Oh yeah.

[Darius J. Butler]

We need need him start finishing at the racks. Catch a finish.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Who you talking about?

[Darius J. Butler]

The Fever, the teammates. Because. And you got to get used to playing with a player like Caitlyn Car because obviously she's a scorer. She can shoot from anywhere. But her passes like it's something very different as well. Like if you're playing with the Joker, LeBron, Luka, those things like you got to catch and finish. I mean that's four or five more assists, obviously 10, 12, however many more points like got to catch and finish. But yeah, she's a dog. She's a stud. I. I will be excited to see how the rest of the season.

[Pat McAfee]

How's the league, you know, continue to. You know, because if there's just going to be Ohio Girls on every team. Just cheap shot her gouging.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

A.J. you love J.C. sheldon, you said last night.

[Evan Cohen]

Oh yeah. I mean she's from Dublin, Ohio.

[Pat McAfee]

Y.

[Evan Cohen]

She. I watched her play at Ohio State a few times. I mean she never stopped. She's like Steph Curry, always running, always moving. But yeah, I didn't. I haven't really seen this kind of scrappy side to her. So yeah, this is Robbery's great for. For any league. We know that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. I agree. Cheap shots can't be happening. And it always happened. Caitlin is certainly going to be a storyline but with that being said, the Fever know that they're targets.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Caitlin understands it at this point and I love that she is yet to waver. It's just like we're singular focus of next game. I'm getting better. Let's keep it rolling. She's a star. She's a dog. And the WNBA seemingly on the rise.

[AJ Hawk]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's get the hell out of here, AJ let's do some universe shots actually. Okay. Oh yeah, Universe. Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

Kind of hot, right?

[Ty Schmidt]

Kind of hot.

[AJ Hawk]

No OT last night.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, missed that one, I guess asking Tyres Halberton playing tomorrow or not.

[AJ Hawk]

Boom. Yeah, let her play.

[Evan Cohen]

But what can he do? Is he going to have different role? Is he going to post up in the corner turn train threes?

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so what's this one for?

[AJ Hawk]

That's just if he's playing. Yeah, for him to play.

[Pat McAfee]

That's.

[Darius J. Butler]

Yeah. Halber been 90% at least.

[AJ Hawk]

Come on.

[Pat McAfee]

At least.

[Darius J. Butler]

We need him now. We don't need him out there. At 60%.

[Conner Marshy]

Yep.

[Darius J. Butler]

All right, might be 89.

[AJ Hawk]

Maybe we do 100H at 80%. At 80.

[Conner Marshy]

Okay.

[Darius J. Butler]

This is.

[Ty Schmidt]

You never know.

[Evan Cohen]

You never got time.

[Darius J. Butler]

You go keep too. It's money. Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. It's gone.

[AJ Hawk]

Damn.

[Pat McAfee]

75.

[Conner Marshy]

We can live with 75.

[Pat McAfee]

75.

[Conner Marshy]

We can live with75.

[Evan Cohen]

I think he would love to be 75.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

No, that was man Halbert just playing tomorrow.

[Pat McAfee]

That look like Miles Turner.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, yeah. Him just playing. More like Nemard.

[Pat McAfee]

This is for this for Tyres to play tomorrow.

[AJ Hawk]

Just a friend to play. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Come on, Tyrese, we need you.

[Darius J. Butler]

It's a big shot.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, yeah. He slipped coming out. Yeah. That's like the universe is screaming louder than it's ever yelled before.

[AJ Hawk]

We're doing them today though, for a reason.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Cuz we got some more.

[AJ Hawk]

And it's game time decision. So tomorrow's the only day that matters.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're right. Because that's game day.

[Conner Marshy]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

Game time. Game day.

[Conner Marshy]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

What are we even shooting for?

[AJ Hawk]

Fun.

[Pat McAfee]

It was fun.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

To be doing so many more advanced techniques of healing tonight.

[Pat McAfee]

He said that. That they're doing everything to it. They're doing everything to it.

[AJ Hawk]

Whoa.

[Evan Cohen]

Is it a calf?

[Pat McAfee]

Calf strain, I believe is the most recent conversation calf strain.

[Evan Cohen]

So not a whole lot you can do. Not a ton you can.

[Pat McAfee]

You can do.

[Evan Cohen]

Do everything.

[Conner Marshy]

Do it all.

[AJ Hawk]

He's got it.

[Pat McAfee]

Mitt had some stem on his back.

[AJ Hawk]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

At the office the other day.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yesterday.

[Darius J. Butler]

He's moving around much better today.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. If. If Tyrese's calf responds to stem the way that Mitts CVS purchased say. Yeah.

[Evan Cohen]

You get the Walgreen as seen on TV IO and you see the stem unit.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He strapped himself up to a two of them because he hurt. Oh, my back.

[Ty Schmidt]

How do you explain when he. What did he. How do you explain having the stem.

[Pat McAfee]

On magnetic for magnetic Bols?

[Ty Schmidt]

I never seen a kid that age.

[Pat McAfee]

As stiff as that kid all the time. I know I'm stiff. Yesterday I was too.

[Evan Cohen]

We get to the car wreck every other week.

[Pat McAfee]

I feel like he's done with the car wrecks, which is kind of cool thing. Hopefully he's done now he's doing two days in the gym and I think he's just, you know.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, he's muscle bound.

[Pat McAfee]

He is. He's getting ready for Love Island.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Heard that was back. Is Love island back? Oh, yeah. It's almost like every single night. It's every night, but like two days of the week and it's absolutely chaos. Let me tell you guys, this America has control over these people, and they have no idea what's going on. It's awesome. Okay, so we're getting into that time of year right now.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, there's some great shows coming out soon.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, go on.

[AJ Hawk]

Next week is the Bear season four, Chef.

[Pat McAfee]

That's Yes, Chef.

[AJ Hawk]

That's Yes, Chef. Which is fantastic show. The F1 move movie is coming out very soon. The Friendship movie with Tim Robinson. Really good. Highly recommend that movie. Let me see, what else?

[Evan Cohen]

Happy Gilmore 2.

[AJ Hawk]

Happy Gilmore 2. I mean. Yeah, I'm not gonna go. Yes.

[Evan Cohen]

Come on. Gotta have hope.

[Pat McAfee]

Scotty was there. Rory was there.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Scotty's, I bet, a great actor.

[Pat McAfee]

I agree.

[AJ Hawk]

No, it's Sam. I know. It's gonna be a big.

[Pat McAfee]

I just watched Hotel Transylvania 2 this morning with my daughter. I'll have you add Sandman's only throwing bangers.

[AJ Hawk]

Stick. Oh, yeah, Stick. On Apple TV with Owen. Owen Wilson. I have watched the first four episodes. It's got some Ted Lasso in it. I don't know if it's as funny as Ted Lasso thus far, but just Wilson being Wilson. And there's cool golf shots.

[Pat McAfee]

We were going to talk to Owen for that show, I think, and then it got moved. Oh, that's a bummer. I would have liked talk to Owen. I would thank you him for everything he did for our development. You know, him and Vince had quite a run there.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, they did.

[Pat McAfee]

Now they're both at Apple.

[Conner Marshy]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Bad monkey. Stick.

[AJ Hawk]

Stick. Yeah. Feels like whoever was like the leader of shows there was like, hey, our age. Yeah. Like, let's. Let's bring in the old guns and let's have them throw some heat.

[Pat McAfee]

Anything we haven't covered that we need to talk about. John Morant says he's going to be in Memphis. That's been an interesting conversation. Yeah.

[Evan Cohen]

Yeah, it has.

[Pat McAfee]

That's got really loud.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. He's got a huge contract.

[Pat McAfee]

And also they fired the coach, I thought, because.

[Conner Marshy]

Correct.

[AJ Hawk]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

They were going with J. But then there's conversation about maybe jaw in a move. Who wants to go to Memphis? It's like we've been in Memphis a few times. Yeah, we've been in Memphis a few times. I was walking in Memphis.

[AJ Hawk]

Walking in Memphis.

[Pat McAfee]

Walking.

[Conner Marshy]

Walking in Memphis.

[Pat McAfee]

Feel the way I feel.

[Evan Cohen]

That's where Graceland is, Correct?

[Pat McAfee]

Outside of Memphis a little bit. Yeah, certainly is.

[AJ Hawk]

And Elvis land.

[Pat McAfee]

That song's about that a little bit. I watched in America's Got Talent. Talent act still going on. On. Yes, it is. This is not now this is not from the current version of the show. I don't know what the current version is. That used to be my dream job. That used to be my end game. I would like to get to America's Got Talent and be a judge. That is where I want to end. Because I just wanted maybe. Maybe 60, 70 milligrams. Okay, sure. Maybe have some vitamins and then just have what the world's best performers come in and do the most obscure shit.

[Darius J. Butler]

Great gig.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a great gig. That is a great. Especially as somebody that. That likes to watch people. Yeah. The amount of whole. That would be. That would be. That was dream gig for. I don't know where they are now. Obviously, everything runs its course. You kind of do your thing. I assume there'll be a new talent coming out of there. But they. The flipper. There was flippers. Guys that did flips. Like, there was like a. A flock of like six flippers.

[AJ Hawk]

Cirque du Soleil.

[Pat McAfee]

These dudes hit back handsprings, back flips. All the way down Beale Street. It was like six. Six blocks.

[Evan Cohen]

Seemingly gymnast.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, like six of them just banging a boom. Got one guy at music jukebox, and he was like. Like running in between them as they were flavors. Like, literally, like a flock of flippers were coming down. And I just had it from. That was in Memphis.

[Darius J. Butler]

Oh, black dudes.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I think the. The guy on the beatbox was a white gentleman.

[Conner Marshy]

Okay.

[Evan Cohen]

Was a white gentleman, but he wasn't flipping.

[Pat McAfee]

He was. I think he was keeping.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He's a big vibes guy. Big vibes guy.

[Darius J. Butler]

Or a car.

[Pat McAfee]

We saw him down at tst. Does have good. Or it almost. Yeah. Say hello. And I could feel it, you know? But that was. We've had good times in Memphis.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, Memphis is beautiful. I love Memphis.

[Darius J. Butler]

I haven't.

[Conner Marshy]

You haven't.

[AJ Hawk]

That's just you. You got to go back.

[Pat McAfee]

They have a Cabela's diner that's shaped like a pyramid.

[Conner Marshy]

Oh, yeah. Some good Q down there too.

[Pat McAfee]

Great chew down there. Memphis barbecue. Yep.

[Conner Marshy]

Tough fighting off the flies. We're trying to get on top of it.

[Pat McAfee]

But there was homeless as well. That were flocking Part of it.

[Darius J. Butler]

Interesting city.

[Pat McAfee]

It is interesting city. Good luck, Memphis. Good luck. Good luck.

[AJ Hawk]

Good luck.

[Pat McAfee]

John Moran say he's staying. Diner in a 900 one. I like that. A lot of things getting so loud these days. Like, maybe too loud. How about this not being loud enough. Yankees are dead.

[Conner Marshy]

Nah, they do this every June, unfortunately. It's the most goddamn frustrating Thing of all time. But you know, they get a massive lead in the division, which they have done. And I don't know if Aaron Boone just says, all right boys, just take off the next 15 games. We can lose 15 a row. That's fine. It happens all the time. It sucks. I mean, for them to go, yeah, basically, you know, four or five games scoreless, that's not good.

[Pat McAfee]

You've heard.

[Conner Marshy]

I have heard.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ what's the best thing to find out about a team you're a fan of players only meeting happening?

[Conner Marshy]

I think this is different. I think this is different in baseball than it is football though.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean?

[Conner Marshy]

Because you're playing so many games and like coach, coach. The only, really the only thing like Aaron Boone has control over are like pitching decisions when guys are going to come in and then the lineup. But like these guys can re. I think they can like everyone like listens to judge. He's the cat. He can look at a guy be like, hey, you're pressing. You need to take better at bats. Like stop swinging at the first pitch every single time you're up there and grounding out to third base. I'm looking at you, Anthony Volpe. Stop doing that. Let's get deeper into the counts here and maybe, hey, listen, I'm the big swinging dick in here. We got John Carlos Stanton back. So you guy who's batting 8th in the order, guess what? You don't need to be trying to hit a floor home run every single at bat.

[Pat McAfee]

And Sean Carlos back. Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

And he's been matching the baseball only two games, but he's, you know, I believe he's currently in three for six.

[AJ Hawk]

He's bad.

[Darius J. Butler]

Okay.

[Conner Marshy]

500 on the season. So. But this is one of the kind of things where like if they don't nip this in the bud right now, like you could end up losing 12 games in a row. And then all of a sudden, guess what? You're not leading the division anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

I know. I think you guys are still the kings of New York. I think. Think cuz I saw Juan Stto get thrown out on a fly ball.

[Conner Marshy]

I don't know what the he was doing.

[Pat McAfee]

750 million.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's starting to hit dingers though.

[Dan Orlovsky]

He's mashing.

[Conner Marshy]

He's starting to come up. Yeah. Which this, this was. It was always coming. It was always kind of just let's laugh and get our jokes in while he's not playing well because he's gonna start hitting.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Juan Soto. Yeah. Jet Passin is reporting from an airplane that players only meetings are not bad in baseball.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, there you go.

[AJ Hawk]

Keep your fucking eye on the ball.

[Ty Schmidt]

What would he know?

[Pat McAfee]

I guess face of baseball. Let's talk about another sport. Obviously only one day a year do we get to watch it. Competitive eating. The goat has returned. Ladies and gentlemen, Joey Josh Chestnut, the world record setting hot dog eater, will be back at the Nathan's Hot dog eating contest on 4th of July. Thank you so much. Thank you, Joey. Thank you, Joey, for doing it. He made the announcement himself in a three poster, as you can see there, one of three. And he talks about how while I have and continue to partner with a variety of companies, including some in a plant based space, those relationships are never a conflict with love of hot dogs. To be clear, Nathan's is the only hot dog company I've ever worked with. A lot of people were saying that I was potentially eating vegan dogs. They weren't vegan dogs. They. They were vegan burgers. I respect that there were differences in interpretation, but I'm grateful we've been able to find common ground. I'm excited to be back on the Coney island stage doing what I live to do in celebrating the 4th of July with hot dogs in my hands. Stay hungry, Joey Jaws Chestnut. So Joey Jaws is back. Sorry about it. To fucking everybody else trying to down dogs. The goat is back. And I remember when he stopped the rank brainstorm and he said, we're gonna eat these hot dogs. Yeah. The good of America. I think we all remember where we were when that took place.

[AJ Hawk]

Amen.

[Pat McAfee]

I can't wait for that to be back. That's a story tradition that is run by one man, an American man who loves his, his duty on 4th of July. And that's Joey Josh Chestnut.

[Conner Marshy]

And if I'm not mistaken, he was also the one who put the protester in the mean, mean headlock when the.

[Pat McAfee]

Guy came up on.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

And still broke a record with the dog.

[Conner Marshy]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Put them down.

[AJ Hawk]

You got to respect it more too. I, I witnessed firsthand at the Colts game this year, I think it might have been the Big ten championship. What the aftermath of is. Joey. Oh, that's right, Chestnut eating. And it's, it's violent. Folks. This isn't, this isn't just like, hey, we're going to eat and have fun. I've seen him banging on the door of a stall trying to get in there. And it is a, it is a sad, sad sight for one, because the guy inside is panicking and it is a scary sky for two because the guy on the outside, Joey, Josh Chestnut, in this situation is about to explode at about what, 40, 50 ounces of St. Elmo's cocktail sauce. And let's just say I know he brought multiple pairs of pants to with him to that game.

[Pat McAfee]

Connor comes back to the seats that we were in for that game and he goes, I just witnessed history and what happened. He goes, joey Jaws Chestnut is currently evacuating everything from the St. Elmo's shrimp cocktail contest in that bathroom right there. And we asked him how he knew and he obviously told the story of Joey Jaws panicking, coming in, trying to open the stall. It's locked. Banging on the outside of it. Code red. Code red.

[AJ Hawk]

Hurry up, please.

[Pat McAfee]

World record. Code red. And we've also seen Joey Jaws Chestnut. Not only is he great with shrimp cocktail sauce and wings and hot dogs, we saw him down 13 pints of beer in 70 seconds. That's right. And then he took down I think a bottle of vodka and I think a bottle of tequila.

[Conner Marshy]

Yep.

[AJ Hawk]

Bud.

[Pat McAfee]

And he's not a professional drinker, he's a professional eater. There are professional drinkers as well. He could dabble in that world if he wanted to. From our own experience, Joey Jaws Chestnut, Indiana Hoosier, lives here in Indiana. We're very proud that he's been back representing on 4th of July. Love you.

[Conner Marshy]

J. I would. I mean, I understand he's a Nathan's guy. I just implore you, Jaws. Try a Hebrew national. Change your life.

[Pat McAfee]

Thought you talk a ballpark.

[Conner Marshy]

What do you mean? Well, ballpark Frank Shoot. Yeah, course kid me.

[Darius J. Butler]

I thought I was.

[AJ Hawk]

They go.

[Evan Cohen]

They had the race.

[Conner Marshy]

The Indy 500 Meer is not the creme de la creme. It's.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you talking about? I seen. Yeah, they're Indy 500 racers. Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

The Oscar Meyer wiener guy.

[Pat McAfee]

I wish. Shower and I'll scare.

[AJ Hawk]

My.

[Conner Marshy]

Hebrew Nationals are top notch. Unbelievable hot dogs. Unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm. I like hot dogs.

[Conner Marshy]

Me too. And I haven't. I haven't put hot dogs on the grill and.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, my God, I don't know how.

[AJ Hawk]

Long I'll do it tonight.

[Conner Marshy]

I know. I think I might.

[Darius J. Butler]

So we just welcome in Joey back. Just open arms. Just.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Darius J. Butler]

Just left us high and dry and forth and we just.

[Pat McAfee]

No, it was a misinterpretation.

[AJ Hawk]

After what you said this morning, I'm.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't like that there was an opportunity for a misinterpretation.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, the opportunity was Joey Jaw's chest on. He said a hot Such a hot Kamali. Some vegan place wanted to give him some burgers.

[Ty Schmidt]

Did he do the hot dog eating competition last year?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he off Kobayashi on Netflix.

[Darius J. Butler]

On what?

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

Netflix.

[Ty Schmidt]

So, no, he didn't do the hot dog eating.

[Darius J. Butler]

What day?

[Pat McAfee]

He didn't allow him to do that. That's not his fault contest.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh. They just out of the blue said, hey, you're not doing the competition anymore.

[AJ Hawk]

You don't want Jaws to get paid, bro.

[Pat McAfee]

Just don't.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't like it either.

[Darius J. Butler]

I don't want to hear you guys talking about my live guys. Then they going, we don't live.

[AJ Hawk]

We talk about the. About the organization, not about the players.

[Pat McAfee]

I think that's all going to get sorted, by the way, relatively quickly. I hope so.

[Darius J. Butler]

Roll up.

[Pat McAfee]

I think. Roll up, roll up, roll up, roll up, roll out.

[Conner Marshy]

Well, fingers crossed he can beat Turkey a la Turkey in a game of Fatal Fury, Streets of Wolves, because that's what it's going to come down to.

[AJ Hawk]

Which is a tough game. It is tough game.

[Conner Marshy]

Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. No, I've. That's kind of, you know, just a nickname for him. Turkey Island Turkey.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Great gamer. Yeah, yeah, he is great gamer.

[AJ Hawk]

Great game.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's his game.

[AJ Hawk]

Great game.

[Pat McAfee]

Game. Great game. City of W. Booker T. Took on, I believe, Boston Connor in that game. Oh, me, I did. I play. I played a game.

[AJ Hawk]

You played a few.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah. You played. Me and Booker T. I'm doing a.

[Pat McAfee]

Lot of finger button mashing, all that thing.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Good.

[Pat McAfee]

Travis Kelce is talking from mandatory minicamp. First of all, I never said that. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. I am down some weight. Okay? Jeremy Fowler reported. He's look out for him. Maybe d be down 25 pounds, he said. Whoa, whoa, whoa. 25 pounds. That's a lot of weight. That's a lot of weight. Maybe 10, 15. Yeah.

[Conner Marshy]

You can tell.

[Pat McAfee]

Noticeable. Good job. Looks taller.

[Ty Schmidt]

Was he at the game last night?

[AJ Hawk]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. Actually. No, we would.

[Darius J. Butler]

You would have known.

[AJ Hawk]

You would have known. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But maybe they said we just came here to watch Puck.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah, sure.

[AJ Hawk]

Who was getting with a beard, you.

[Pat McAfee]

Know, let's get out of here. Ladies and gentlemen, we're the luckiest people on earth that we get to do this for a living. We appreciate you so much. We have. We're gonna announce some winners of the Topps card.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, nice.

[Pat McAfee]

So the reason why it took so long for the Tops card giveaway to happen is because we didn't receive our. Yeah, so I'm giving away signed cards. Didn't get until very recently. So now that we have them, we will announce the winners. I will sign those. We'll get those in the mail so soon. Congrats to Darius J. Butler and the Florida Panthers fans for winning bucks. You're boozing pretty good today.

[Darius J. Butler]

Had to.

[Evan Cohen]

You going to go get in the golf cart with the boys?

[Darius J. Butler]

Maybe while we down there. Sunday parade.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that when it is?

[Darius J. Butler]

You got to be.

[Evan Cohen]

Got to be there.

[Pat McAfee]

Got to be there.

[Darius J. Butler]

Try to make my way on the float.

[Evan Cohen]

Just hammered.

[Conner Marshy]

There it is.

[Pat McAfee]

There it is. Yep. He'll have a hoodie on, too.

[Darius J. Butler]

No, no.

[Pat McAfee]

100 degrees down there, by the way. Temperature not bad today.

[Conner Marshy]

Not bad at all.

[AJ Hawk]

I wouldn't have worn this if it wasn't strictly for USA keeping the cup.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you change it?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I put it on right before the show.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you change the temp?

[AJ Hawk]

No, I was just saying I would never do that.

[Pat McAfee]

Same.

[AJ Hawk]

Same 68. I don't think it's the same.

[Conner Marshy]

But it is also hot as outside. It's so humid outside today.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of steam coming.

[Ty Schmidt]

A lot of steam storms coming this afternoon.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, if you can feel it, you taste your friend, tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're in this thing together. We're back tomorrow. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.

[Dan Orlovsky]

In 1979, the first words spoken on.

[Pat McAfee]

ESPN weren't just an announcement.

[Adam Schefter]

If you're a fan, they were were a sports prophecy.

[Pat McAfee]

What you'll see in the next minutes, hours and days to follow. Glad you're with us tonight. May convince you you've gone to sports heaven. And right now you're standing on the edge of tomorrow. This fall, the next era of ESPN begins.

[Adam Schefter]

Sports forever.