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Pat McAfee
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this Feel Great Friday, June 20, 2025 this program begins now. Sports are happening and the reason why this is a feel Great Friday, not just a feel Good Friday is because the Indiana Pacers in a dominant fashion last evening have forced a Game seven in the NBA Finals against the number one overall seed Oklahoma City Thunder. Last night, Game six in Indianapolis Indiana was electrifying. We were lucky enough to be in the building. A lot of records have taken place with this Indiana Pacer team. A lot of times they were counted out, pushed aside, said it was over. This team ain't trash. They actually have the most overrated player in the NBA voted on by his peers leading this bunch who gritted his ass through a calf and an ankle injury last night, didn't even have to play the final quarter of the game because of that big of an ass beating was taking place. Foxy, show the play, show the play, show the play. Lucky to be the building when Tyrese gets a steal. Ah, give me that in the pink Halle ones. The Puma beauty get shoved. Been happening all series. They let him play last night. I'm not judging it. How about the no look deal to who? The all Star Pascal Siakam poster in Indiana. That place want apeshit. That place was electrifying. This place last night was celebrating an incredible Indiana Pacer season. Knowing it was going to be the last home game regardless of the outcome. And what the Pacers did was show up for us in a massive way. Game 7 obviously taking place for the first time long time in the NBA Finals and our city is getting a chance to experience it all. We know in Oklahoma City on Sunday. It is going to be a wild atmosphere. We know them Smackers and Tigers are going to be out in a big way. We know the Oklahoma City fan base is going to fuel the Thunder as much as hopefully the Indianapolis folks fueled the Indiana Pacers last night. And we know that a game, Game seven is always going to be must watch. We are so incredibly proud of the boys. We are so incredibly pumped for the boys. And we know that Game 7 in Oklahoma City at 8 o' clock on Sunday on ABC is going to be something that's talked about forever. Good luck to all the boys.
Ty Schmidt
Good luck boys.
Pat McAfee
Shepherd hits the buzzer beating at the end of the third quarter three gets it off perfectly, swishes that thing turns around in the center of the court with one of these roof blown off. It was like last night. Watching that particular game was pure Euphoria. It was great to see the boys come out in dominating fashion. And it was great to see them respond when everybody thought it was over. The Indiana Pacers and the Cambridge field house, more specifically, their employees, Security, arena, sure. Pr, marketing, basically all the different departments. They had to rehearse the Larry o' Brien ceremony on the court yesterday, the night before. Four hours, five hours. How the ceremony is going to go, you know, where the lighting is, where the camera goes, where Larry o' Brien goes, where the Oklahoma City Thunder will go. Let's practice. Let's get to Oklahoma City Thunder colored confetti. And like they had to go through the entire Pacers building, basically visitors locker room. Had to go through. Yeah, had to go through it all. You have to go to the other. The whole thing, like numerous times. And you could sense that it was like, this is not how this is going to. This cannot be how this season ends. And Tyrese Halliburton, niece Smith, great shooter, great shooter, Start out a little ruff. Great shooter. Nem hard, big time shots. Pascal obviously doing his thing. And then whenever you think about OB Toppin going for 20 plus off the bench, and when you think about this bench, you can't help but say, TJ McConnell, absolute dog from Pittsburgh. We got a chance to meet his dad last night on the post game interviews. He said he's incredibly proud. You know, he's got a daughter in wnba, got a son in the NBA. And on Sunday, I'm going to Oklahoma City to watch my son play for a world championship. I can't believe it. I can't believe it. It's just been all so like authentic out of this Pacers team. Every answer Tyrese gives, it's not like a canned answer. Hey, do you try to stay off social media? I try. You know, I try my best. Every once in a while I got to catch up with what's going on wwe. So I'll hop on X real quick. Some stuff. Got to get out of there, you know, trying to isolate myself. I see. Obviously what's said about me on espn. He's told us that in between series maybe he'll get back on social media. Whenever it's serious times, he gets off of there because he doesn't need to get flooded with any type of doubt or thoughts from anybody else. And it's like this team is very easy to root for. This team is a team that you can like and Oklahoma City is the same way. I'm not saying that they are not. But this finals showcasing two cities that have really shown up in two states and fan bases that are yearning for a title, showing up in a big way, going to seven games. It's a beautiful thing. Congratulations. Congratulations to the NBA Toxic tables here at Boston. Conor at Tai Schmidt Con Man. We were in there last night. It was awesome.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Unbelievable. One of the best environments I've ever been in. I said that about games three and four last night would definitely surpass all of that. The Siakam play you mentioned, when we rewatched it back after the fact, it looked even more electric on the broadcast, which was very exciting to see. It's incredible how well the team just answers. You know, TJ McConnell's dad also said at game seven, anything can happen. And that's kind of where we're at right now. Hal Burton goes down Siakam. I mean, he had the slam, which was filthy. I forget what song was put over that, but it looked and sounded immaculate. But him going off for 33 the bench, doing what they did. Tyrese Halberton, his over under last night was 13 and a half points. He scored 14. So way to hit that over, Tyrese. But if you were to tell me, hey, Tyrese Halpern was going to have 14 points, five assists, and a rebound in game six, I would be a little bit worried. And then you look at what everyone else did. Everybody stepped up. Mostly everybody stepped up. Tony Bradley came in TB13, TB13. He had some big minutes for the boys. Kind of got everybody going. Played a little, you know, tough defense. We've been Tony Bradley guys since day one. And the finisher, if you will, you know, we might.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he is the finisher.
Ty Schmidt
James Johnson coming in. And it wasn't the loudest pop of the night because of that Siakam dunk, but when he comes in with 2:30 left on the clock, people go ballistic. And they don't go ballistic because, like, oh, James Johnson, some dumb minutes. They come in because he's setting the tone for. For game seven. He's not coming in just to get in and say that he played in the NBA Finals. He's coming in to send a message to the OKC bench. He's barking right there to them, letting them know, hey, we're not screwing around. He's crashing the boards, even though he knows that's going in good. Nice little elbow. Maybe even a. Maybe even a. You done? Is Haslam, locker room, right now.
Pat McAfee
Shout out to the officials, ejecting him. So he gets two ovations. Played for two minutes, one ejection Two ovations. And the JJ legacy will continue to only build here in Indianapolis, Indiana. He was brought to the team to protect the young boys. Like that is literally what he was brought to the team to. To do in the way he leads. Everybody sees it, everybody loves him. And he'll come in and put some in. Hey. Oh, there was one time he had. I think he still had some.
Ty Schmidt
He had a couple bracelets on.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, bracelets on. Came in, knocked down a shot, does his thing. It's like you really experience and feel the team's culture in this entire thing. Had a lot of people traveling in for the game. Justin Jefferson was in town last night. He was. We saw him as we were entering the building. Say he just wanted to experience finals atmosphere. It was like, yo, thanks for coming Justin Jefferson to the city. I assume last night was electric for him. The city was alive after a big time win. Also, Jett Passen was there last night, got a chance to see Jeff Passin. He brought his boy and one of his boys friends over here from St. Louis. Right. Where does he live?
Boston Connor
Kansas City.
Pat McAfee
Kansas City. Okay. Missouri. Yeah. He's. He's left on the map from us. Correct. I don't think that far. I think it was a doable driver.
Ty Schmidt
He looked good.
Pat McAfee
He did look good.
Ty Schmidt
Good fit.
Pat McAfee
He had. He had like thong toe sandals on.
Boston Connor
He had the deep V neck. I do know that.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, deep V neck and cargo shorts. Hair looked immaculate.
Boston Connor
Always does.
Pat McAfee
And just kind of just living, just doing it.
Ty Schmidt
You look like a billionaire tech guy. Like if you were to imagine. Yeah, well, like Zuckerberg look like when Facebook had a million.
Pat McAfee
Who has a. Who has a surfboard?
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
Pat McAfee
Shot Steve. Shot Steve down there in Outer Banks.
Boston Connor
Oh, the obx.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah, Steve. Steve T. Down there, you know, Outer Banks sends me this surfboard right here. I was on it, trying to find some barrels, you know, a little bit earlier. That's some fine wood right there. That is some fine wood.
Boston Connor
Great craftsmanship.
Pat McAfee
It is. Have you got a chance to feel this thing?
Boston Connor
No, I haven't.
Pat McAfee
Real deal, brother.
AJ Hawk
Steve lives in obx.
Pat McAfee
I believe he lives obx. He supplies everybody in OBX with surfboards. I believe he is the OBX lifestyle.
AJ Hawk
So he's a pogue.
Ty Schmidt
He's a pogue, yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Certainly from the Outer bank show. They call themselves pogues.
Pat McAfee
So Steve might be Pogue then. Yeah, he's a pog.
AJ Hawk
You want to be that? Yes.
Pat McAfee
Well, if that's what you want to be. I think Steve is that and shout Steve doing that. But nonetheless, Last night, electric T.J. mcConnell takes over. James Johnson comes in, gets a big time pop. It felt like everybody in there believed Indiana pitchers. I think some people after, you know, game five were a little bit worried.
Boston Connor
Sure.
Pat McAfee
Especially with Tyrese potentially being game time decision. Like, if Tyrese is not going to play, then we're kind of, you know, we are, Don. I mean, the entire thing, the moment, the moment the guy. And then as the day rolls on, it's like Shams is like he's playing and then you. Donis has them. Yesterday, as we were talking to him, just at about, I don't know, 205 or whatever, he goes, it just hit me. Tyrese is going to be just fine. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, who told you that? He goes, nah, I just. I just think he's going to be okay. And I'm like, what do you mean you think he's going to be okay? He's like, we would already know if he wasn't going to be okay is basically what UD was saying. Sean, Somebody would already know if he wasn't going to be okay because they'd be trying to set expectation levels maybe for fans and the other team's already preparing for him and for him not to be there. So it's. And Udine's like, he's going to be fine. And then as it rolls on, it's like, wait a minute. If Tyrese is playing, that's a big pick me up for everybody in the city, not just on the team, but in the building. And then if they're able to get a lead like they against game six against the Denver Nuggets, where they kind of what you called expertly yesterday, you said, hey, Oklahoma City. These Game Sixes just kind of relax. Game Sixes for the Indiana Pacers have been very, very good for the Indiana Pacers. So it's like it was a dominating win. Tyrese got the rest. Tyrese got to play. Everybody else showed up in a big way. It's like when they needed it most, crunch, somebody else is about to have the confetti fall in their faces on your floor. And your entire organization has had to walk through the other team's championship ceremony a couple times. It's like, I love the fact that they all bought in and said, I don't think so. 1/2 of the hammer done. Cowboys ap tone. The underdog mentality for this Pacers team throughout the entire postseason has been great for them.
AJ Hawk
I mean, entire postseason they've been more than five point dogs, basically. Every single series, especially on the road at home. This series, obviously against okc, they've been legendary underdogs and taking it to seven. So yeah, the, the mentality of the underdogs has been great for them. But as far as last night, like on the broadcast, and they couldn't have stressed this enough, the pacers only had 11 turnovers last night. They had 23 the game before that. Like, if OKC isn't getting turnovers, like that's basically their whole game. And then this whole series it's been like, who besides the stars is going to show up? Last night it was the Pacers role players who showed up. None of the OKC role players showed up at all. Their third highest score behind SGA and Jalen Williams only had 11. So it's like, who else is going to score in this series? And then the Pacers. The Pacers were the ones who were playing defense last night. They were getting it after it. They were out running and they looked like OKC on defense last night. Honestly.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I, I really enjoyed watching this Pacers team play. Like it was just good basketball. Yes. Like the way he was just like methodical ass beating by the Indiana Pacers last night. And anytime we needed a shot to put a fire out, we did. And it's like there was a 20, I think it was 28 points or something like that with like 10 minutes left. And it was like, can't give up a 28 point lead, right? And everybody in the building is like, no. And they sub out their starters. And then the thought is like, well, the backup guys are going to try hard. And then we got our backup guys and you start seeing that like lead disappear. And I'm like, still in there. I'm like, no, no, no, this cannot be how, this cannot be how this goes. And then the Pacers bench just answered. Far Fee was in there. Like we're talking about just answering out there. It was a great battle, man. And the fact that the NBA has a seven game series in the Finals, what a win for basketball, for sports as a whole.
Boston Connor
Well, and that's what's so ironic is everyone wants to talk about the ratings and how it's two small market teams and how does the NBA have a problem? Because still no one's like, I guess casual fans, like super casual fans maybe aren't watching it. But for a guy like me who loved the NBA, but in like years past not having an actual team, my interest in the finals have kind of waned a little bit just because it's such a long process. Like, this is arguably the best Finals series since, what, like, 2016. Like, this, the. The basketball. So for everyone to say, hey, no one's watching it. This has been one of the most entertaining finals of all time. Like, it just. Every single night, you're. It's almost a guarantee. Maybe with, you know, a couple of those games late, it kind of got out of hand, but for the most part, for 48 minutes, like, you are going to be entertained by both sides. Like, and it just. You're right. I mean, the NBA, you know, I. It'd be nice if more people were watching it because this has been a hell of a series, but it's unbelievable that we're getting a Game seven.
Pat McAfee
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who picked the Oklahoma City Thunder to win last night. No horse in a race, he says played 13 years in the NBA. Is co host of the Knuckleheads podcast, friend of the program, ladies and gentlemen, Q. Rich. How you doing, man?
Quentin Richardson
I'm good, I'm good. Probably not as good as you fellas, but I'm doing good, man. I enjoyed the game last night. It was a. It was a. I mean, obviously it was a blowout, but we.
Pat McAfee
Oh, no. Cat got his tongue.
Boston Connor
Coach Dags.
Pat McAfee
That could be Coach Dagg. You cut out right there. We lost you completely.
Quentin Richardson
Oh, my bad, my bad. I said no, I had. I enjoyed the game. I mean, it was. It ended up being a blowout, so it was a little less enjoyable on that end. But the fact that we get a Game seven, I'm super hyped about it, man. We got. We got more basketball.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, absolutely. More basketball is great for the NBA. I think it's great for sports media as a whole, especially with the way these games have gone. Ty just kind of mentioned it there, the style of play that is being played. I mean, there is great basketball happening by, you know, one of the teams, I guess both of the teams in most of the games last night being a blowout and everything like that, but it's like the atmospheres have been electric. The basketball has been fantastic for Game seven. All anybody has said is it could be anybody's game, T.J. mcConnell's day. Say anything, Happy. It's game seven. I mean, that is very true. What are your thoughts on going into a Game seven if you're the home team? And what are your thoughts on going into a Game seven if you're an away team? The Pacers went into New York, Madison Square Garden Game 7 last year. One did some gardening. They have some experience going into another building and winning. But in this case, what is your thoughts on both teams perspectives of a game seven in Oklahoma City?
Quentin Richardson
I mean, I agree, I agree with TJ's there. Anything can happen in this game seven. This is why, you know, if you was in OKC's situation, you wanted to try and end it last night, but clearly that didn't happen. But I mean, if you okc, you do feel, I mean they got to feel some comfort going back to they, to their home, to their home court where they play really well, they bounce back from games they lose really well. They got all those things. But to me, game Sevens, man, you throw all of the narratives out and that was just, it's one game, man. It's who feels good that day, who's in a rhythm. All of these different things, all of these different reasons can go into it and you never know what's going to happen. It's all about one single solitary game. And so now it's come down to that. And as a fan, like, like we say in basketball, as a fan, those are the best two words in basketball. Game seven. So this, this is what you want. This, you're getting it to take it the distance, the furthest it can in this series. And we get to watch as much basketball as possible. Because after this, this is it for a minute before the draft next week, you gotta kind of wait the summer league and you know, that's, that's a bummer for me.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, bummer for you. It's also a bummer for a lot of us. Yeah. The NHL, six games. Okay.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Could have been cool, have another one. But congrats to the Panthers. Yeah. Down there in Florida Hockey State. And this now game seven, obviously in anything can happen, it's one game. Who shows up that night. What do you think Coach Carlisle and Daggs are thinking? Is this simplify offense for Game 7 or is it, are they throwing their best shit here? Is this a chance that there is a masterclass that could be had by one of these coaches that can maybe, you know, win them the game? Or do we just expect them to kind of treat this as if it's any other game?
Quentin Richardson
Man, I'm like, ud, you never know what tricky Ricky thinking over there, what he gonna do. He's a mad scientist. So, I mean he's got a lot of experience, he's been in a lot of different situations. I feel like Coach Dagnaut is a great coach and he's doing a great Job, too. But I don't know, man. I don't know if these guys stick to the. Stick to the script. I mean, I think for okc, it's kind of easier to stick to the script because you got your lead man and he's the mvp and he's always kind of had that position with that team. So for me, it'll be interesting to see. Like you said, you guys talked about the others playing well and. And T.J. mcConnell getting instantly in the game and going crazy the way he did. Will he be able to have that type of impact, or will it be an OKC player doing that? Man, it's going to be crazy to see all this play out now.
Pat McAfee
I wonder what. I wonder who Rick Carlisle is going to, you know. Yeah, there is going to be because Nemhard last night hit some massive shots. We've seen Neesmith whenever he's been called upon massive shots. Shepard was knocking down massive shots yesterday. It's like everybody. Pascal, obviously, for the first quarter, it's like, hey, we got a Pascal show where he's going to deliver. It's like every guy on that team can get it. Miles Turner still.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
He has yet to play anywhere near his best offensive basketball, and it's going to a game seven. So, like, think about that. If Miles can get hot, which he certainly can. A couple. Just a couple. All he needs is to see one go in.
Ty Schmidt
That's it.
Pat McAfee
He had a foul shot last night early, I think. No, Tyrese did. I think Miles did, too. They had a foul shot go in early, and I'm like, here we go. Take the bucket off. Yeah, take the top off. This entire thing. Miles just needs to see a couple fall, I think, and then we'll see how it goes. Now there are a couple stats that are telling a story. Go ahead, Tone.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, Q. Last night, Pacers only turned the ball over 11 times. I think it was 20.
Pat McAfee
Choked up about it. Look at the hatch right there on your head.
AJ Hawk
Game 7 shot, Moose shout out. Moose choked on a jelly bean. That's on me. 11 turnovers for the Pacers last night, 23 for OKC. The team that has turned over the ball less has won five of the six games. Only game one was different, and that was the Pacers comeback. So, like, when it comes to turnovers, like in the NFL, there's quarterbacks that just throw interceptions. That's what they do in the NBA. Is it like teams. Teams are gonna. Like there's teams that are just gonna commit turnovers, or is it like A mindset going into game seven, like, hey, we need to protect the ball or what's the mindset going into that?
Pat McAfee
Yeah, talk to us. Football differences on this?
Quentin Richardson
No, I think, I mean, obviously after you have a game where you have a high turnover game, that's something that you focus in on when you talking game plan, when you in walkthroughs and different things like that. So I think they'll be more focused on, you know, taking care of the ball. Cause I did feel like they were very loose with the ball yesterday and that that turned into, you know, an avalanche of problems for them. But yeah, I mean, back and forth each team. I mean, I felt like the Indiana's defensive pressure and the way they were all over the place, they, they, they created those turnovers. It's not like, I mean, I did feel like OKC was lackadaisical on some of the passes, but without those guys being ultra aggressive and being in passing lanes and shooting gaps and doing things like that, they still don't get those steals and create those opportunities. They create. They were first to the floor and a lot of times to get on the ground, to get to the ball, all the little 50, 50 balls Indy was getting. So they gotta change. That's what OKC has to change. And when they get in, they build and they gotta make sure that they try and get and create those same type of, of situations for themselves.
Pat McAfee
I love, whenever we were A defensively, the Pacers were locking it down. Yeah, they were trapping a lot. I mean, we had, we were, I mean, it was good defense. They ran a whole highlight during the TV copy, I guess, of the Pacers D and the Pacers pace, I do believe. And it's like every once in a while the Pacers either fall into a good, good situation with how the other team's playing or they just decide that they're going to lock down and they will. I, I mean, like the Pacers, everybody's talking about Oklahoma City coming into the series. They're the best defense in all of the NBA and everything like that. It' like I feel like the Pacers and Coach Carlisle have felt challenged in that aspect in this particular series. And there's been a couple times where they've ratcheted it up on the defensive side. I assume game seven going to be tight, right? Do we think that's going to be a little bit tighter than usual? I Wonder what Game 7 stats say. Is that more of a cagey affair or is that wide open, you think?
Quentin Richardson
I mean, I think it's wide open. I mean, I expect this game to be a, you know, a down to the wire game, hopefully. But like I say, man, this is. Anything could happen. You never know. It could. It could go either way. It could be big. It could be a big blowout, or it could be a close game. I'm hoping it's a down to the wire game and we get a real. You know what I'm saying? A real game seven. Epic moment at the end from one of the teams.
Pat McAfee
The Pacers enjoyed a blowout last night. There are some things that come alongside that. Go ahead, con man.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Q.
Ty Schmidt
Rich, fourth quarter, no starters playing for okc. I know Hal burned in playing the fourth. I think Siakam played, you know, two, three minutes as well. Does that time at the end of the game matter? You know, today people are saying, you know, Tyrese did not play the four, so he'll be a little more rested up. Is that real? Same with okc. Do players kind of get that almost transition over to, you know, getting ready for game seven or things like that while the game's still going on? Because it feels as though that might not be something, but if they're already on the sideline kind of talking about what went wrong, can that actually help a team going into game seven?
Quentin Richardson
I think it can, but I think. I think. I think more so, like, like you said, the rest of. The impact of the rest and the impact of you not being out there for those 12 minutes and. And nothing being allowed to happen, you can't tweak anything. You can't do anything as far as injuring yourself. So when they sitting. When they off their feet and they just sitting on the. On the bench, whether they talking about things for the next game or not, I think that's a positive on both sides. Like you say, Tyrese didn't play in the fourth and a bunch of the OKC players, so I feel like they will have a little more juice from that because they didn't have to be out there for those 12 minutes exerting energy and fighting either. Either way, whether it was a blowout or a close game. So I do agree with that. But as far as, like, talking game plan, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I saw Shay, He. You could hear. You heard him mic'd up him saying, like, you know, this is gonna be one for every, you know, one game seven for everything. And, you know, trying to. Trying to mentally move past that game, so maybe that could help and be positive for them. But, like, I say everything comes down to Sunday, man.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Who shows up? You know, that's who shows up. Who decides that it's gonna be their night. I think I was going through the scores of the previous game. Sevens here, 2016, 93, 89, 2013, 95, 88, Lakers 83, Celtics 79, you know, 81, 74. They all seem to be relatively close games, also low scoring games. Then we get into the hundreds there back in the 80s in this entire thing. So it does feel as it may be a cagey affair maybe, because game seven, everybody's a little bit tight in football games get like that, where it's like we're not going to make a mistake. So everybody's kind of just a little bit tighter and the defense is easier, I think effort wise than maybe offense. If everybody's a little bit nervous, let them settle in. We'll see. But last night, beginning of the game, it felt like that was. That was being officiated in a way. Like, hey, physicality is allowed here. Go ahead, Ty.
Boston Connor
Yes, speaking of that, Q. Rich, do you think game seven will be officiated like last night? Because to Pat's point, like they were letting them play and, you know, a lot of bodies on the floor, a lot of very physical defense. Do you think it'll be officiated like last night? And if it is, who do you think it favors?
Quentin Richardson
I think that. I think the players set that, set that tempo. I mean, if you come out and you playing so physical to the point to where they can't call everything, then that means that the players have set the tone, that it's going to be a very physical game because the refs are never going to call every single call, every single time. So it's like if they come out and they get into the money and they playing and bumping and getting to the physicality of it, that means that them as the players have set that tone. And I think whichever team is being the more physical and putting imposing that will on that part, I think that'll favor that team. I mean, whichever team it is, you know, that could go either way. I felt like last night Indy was a more physical team throughout the game. I mean, early to 10 to 2 start, I felt like Aaron Nemhardt was huge for y' all. Cause I mean, it was. It was a silence. It was. It was 10 to 2 and it was no answers from nobody. And he hit a couple threes here and there and got a couple buckets that kept it from going to like 14, 16, like 4 or something and maybe going the other way. And then y' all got. Y' all got a handle of it. So I think he was huge. That three right there. The step back was big. He made a couple early buckets. That was like. They were big buckets to keep y' all right there. And then y' all took over after that.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was not pretty early. You know, it was. It was reminiscent of game five where early we were just completely flustered and nothing was falling. You know, it was like nothing was even having a chance of falling. We shot a. We hit the back of the backboard on one of the shots. Where we were sitting is like right on the baseline, like, kind of up a little bit. So we could basically tell if everybody's shot's going in. It's actually a great location where it's at. As soon as it leaves the hand, you can tell, like, oh, that looks like. Like it's going to be short because you can literally, it's. It's a perfect view. It's like a video game type view of this entire thing. And we see this shot and it's just. That's. That's veering towards the crowd behind. I'm like, did that thing get blocked? It's like, no, we're just completely out of sorts right now. And then for our ability to be able to settle back in, it's like the mental toughness of these two teams has been on display throughout. Cannot wait for Sunday. You go into that game, Q Rich.
Quentin Richardson
No, no, sir. I will not be attending the game. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not, you know, I'm not in the arena and being on the sidelines and all that. I'm a watch from here.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. We'll see if I'm doing the same. You know, not from there, but maybe. Maybe from here. A lot of people tell me, I need to go, need to go, need to go.
Quentin Richardson
Hey, so up. Pull up. Pete, pull up. Pull up with the. Bring the energy. Bring you and the boys.
Pat McAfee
Bring the energy. Yeah. The ticket prices of these things, I don't know, you know, if the grandstand of me being an asshole in the other arena is. Is also worth the price of everything else that goes alongside.
Ty Schmidt
I'm assuming they're damn near sold out.
Pat McAfee
They couldn't find them on secondary market. Could not find any on the court sides on the secondary market. Look, definitely looked at now. Big perk. I said, you got telling me I gotta come. And he said he's gonna connect me with the people over there or whatever. And it's like, it would be cool to experience a game over there. C. Also could also not true. You know. Yeah. There could do it from house.
AJ Hawk
You got a good set up at your house, I bet.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Good. There's a good TV set up right there.
Ty Schmidt
Probably a nice couch.
Pat McAfee
And then whenever the boys get home, you know, at the FBO that you're there, we're there.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, we're there.
Boston Connor
Yeah, we're there.
Pat McAfee
Every person in here is there.
Ty Schmidt
Absolutely. I will. I will do that for sure. The Pacers. We had a conversation about this. The Pacers do need to send one man to sit outside. His name's Larry Bird.
Boston Connor
Oh, that's something.
Ty Schmidt
Larry should be there for Indiana. That's just my thoughts on it. I think Larry brings good vibes. I don't know if I thought you.
Pat McAfee
Were gonna say Hans. Bingo, because Hans was there last night.
Ty Schmidt
Same kind of juice. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Appreciate Hans representing yet again last night. He was on a couple different videos. I think he maybe was even on local news. Yeah, I mean, Hans absolutely crushing it. Welcome to Indy. We're happy you're here. It was a hell of a night. We appreciate you, Q. Rich, you're the man.
Quentin Richardson
Yes, sir. Anytime, fellas.
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, Quentin Richardson. I don't know, you know.
Boston Connor
What do you mean? Just cut a check for $1.5 million. You know, I know all the seats are gone, but they'll. They'll pop a folding chair down for you.
Ty Schmidt
Say.
Boston Connor
See, it's pretty nice.
Ty Schmidt
Maybe the drinks are free.
AJ Hawk
Thunder will cover it. They'll cover the plane and.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I don't know the. I don't think they will do that. I will be trying to, but I'm gonna be a reason. I'm gonna be a reasonable human.
Ty Schmidt
They should stick chestnuts right next to okc's bench and have him just eat stuff down. Yeah, just. Just. Just crushing dogs and farting on the.
Pat McAfee
Bench just the whole time.
Ty Schmidt
The whole entire night.
Pat McAfee
I need 45 more.
Ty Schmidt
Actually.
Boston Connor
He should do that.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Maybe right underneath a hoop. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Or right behind Coach Daggs. Like, Coach Daggs, he's trying to make adjustments, and all he sees is chestnuts.
Pat McAfee
Eating $80 right across from their bench.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
AJ Hawk
And then he makes himself throw up all over him.
Pat McAfee
Whoa. I don't think he does any of that.
Ty Schmidt
All over his back. When the clock's winding down to zero as the Pacers are about to win, Dag just gets puked on.
Pat McAfee
It was electric last night. We had one too by the way, we were thinking about having one and we, we said, you know what? We should. And then we actually did.
Boston Connor
When presented with the chance, you. You kind of have to have one.
Pat McAfee
And you actually had one.
Boston Connor
Yeah, I had one. I said I was gonna. Had. I have one. I'm not gonna be having one. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna have one. And that's what I did. And then I went home and I. Obviously, when I got home, I, I had one during the game. But, you know, hey, you got to be responsible sometimes.
Pat McAfee
Speaking of having one, baseball is having one right now. We got fights. We got real drama with big names in baseball now. College World Series this weekend. Coastal Carolina, lsu. Best of three series. Good luck.
Ty Schmidt
Good luck.
Pat McAfee
Good luck, boys. You got a lot of pros, future pros playing in this College World Series. And the cost of Carolina story is obviously the story of the tournament thus far. Lsu, obviously powerhouse, always will be, always has been. Coast Carolina has won a World Series in the past. It'll be a best of three this weekend in Omaha. Good luck to all the boys over there. Thank you for what you've done with your metal bats. Your pings have sent us into true moments of. Of joy as sports fans engage wood. Thank you for doing what you're doing. That kept like, competitive spirit alive for all of us. But in the majors, there's some big names do. Getting into some big. Ty, can you talk about baseball etiquette a little bit, please?
Boston Connor
Yeah, sure. So this is basically right now, the Dodgers and the Padres, who they play in the same division, so they play each other, you know, 30 plus times a year. They see each other a lot. They've seen each other in the playoffs before. It's kind of been like a growing rivalry. One of those things where the Padres for the longest time were not good. The Dodgers were. So it's kind of a little brother, big brother kind of thing. But then the Padres started spending a bunch of money and kind of not exactly doing what the Dodgers are doing, but they're trying to get on the same level. They have a bunch of superstars. They so to kind of take everybody into what's happening here over the last 10 days. Fernando Tatis Jr. Who is arguably the star of the Padres, has been hit three times by the Dodgers for 10 days. Yeah. In 10 days. First one right there, a little innocuous. It's in the first inning. You're probably not intentionally throwing at a guy in the first inning. So that. That is probably one that just got away. Let's go to June 17th here. Okay. And this is in the third inning. Tatis.
Pat McAfee
Not.
Boston Connor
It's a little higher. That's a little higher. That's a little up near the head. Which, you know, again, maybe he's trying to get him off the plate, perhaps. But that you could argue is, you know, Lou Trevino is. Is throwing at Tatis to try to get him off the plate. But still, you know, at the. But it happens. Well, the. The Padres basically say, okay, you're going to take one at our guy, we're going to take one at your guy. Shohei comes in and boom, he's trying to hit him right in the kneecap. So that, you know, I mean, there's. That's a meaty part of the leg. So, you know, I mean, it hurts, but, you know, he. Shohei's going to recover from that one. He's going to limp a little bit. He's not playing in the field. He wasn't pitching that night. So, you know, you go ice that thing up in the dugout, no big deal. Well, then, let's fast forward to last night. And this is in the top of the night. That one gets to tease right on the hand. And after the game, he had to. You can see Mike Shield is pissed. He's had it. This is three times in 10 days. We're paying this guy $300 million and you guys are trying to kill him. Okay, enough of that. Is right after he gets hit, the benches. Bench is clear and we actually have a video. This is pretty sweet. So this is right when he hits. This is the bullpen. You see these guys just right away. Okay. Nope. And they storm out. Yeah, the entire bullpen. So that's sweet. And that's how, you know. I mean, this is. This is real deal. Holyfield. Like, this is actually a thing. Now again, Tatis has to get an mri. They're hoping that he doesn't have like a broken hand or something like that, because you see that a lot. Guys take an inside fastball when they're gripping the bat, and they might break a couple fingers and be out a little bit. Very important in baseball having the use of your fingers, obviously, inside a glove and on a bat. So the following inning, Shohei comes up, same deal.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Boston Connor
You take one of ours, we're going to throw to show his head. And you can see Shohei acts like he got hit by a shotgun there 100 mile, but the guy's throwing 100 miles an hour and he's throwing it and. And you could see like at this point the umpires are trying to like, hey, we don't, we don't need another bench is clearing brawl. We don't need a bunch of. Shohei's pissed though. He's pissed.
Pat McAfee
He was telling the boys not fight.
Boston Connor
I think he was saying like, because you know they're going to try to send like the medical staff out there to like see if he's okay. I think he was saying like, no, piss off, I'm good. I'm gonna go take first base and I'll be okay. Because after the bench is cleared, like a lot of times they're just not gonna let you know. Another benches clearing brawl happen in the next half inning. But this has been going on. I mean the, the Dodgers and the Padres will play each other probably another, I don't know how many times they've played so far this year. They'll probably play each other another 15 to 20 times this season. This is going to be something to keep an eye on. This is a legit, legit rivalry. Bad blood between these two. And anytime you Got pitchers throwing 100 mile an hour Fastballs at Shohei and Tanish Head at Fernando Tatis Jr's head, who is also a, you know, 350 million dollar guy, like this is kind of, this stuff happens in baseball. You kind of likened it off the show. You're like, you know, I kind of like this. It's kind of like fighting in hockey. It's very similar. It's an unwritten rule. Like you, you come at our guy, we're gonna come at your guy.
AJ Hawk
They have six games left against each other.
Boston Connor
Okay, so not that many. But still that's, you know what, he'll get three at bats. I mean they could still hit Tatis 15 times in the next six games if they wanted to.
Pat McAfee
I love a little rivalry. I also like when baseball does a little hockey.
Boston Connor
Sure.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Hockey's a big. Oh, is that right sport? And then we're going to get you back. Baseball showing that it is as well to its biggest star, shohei Ohtani getting 100 mile an hour fastball at its head. At his head. I mean that's an insane situation. And him just eating that. You said, well, he did do an ouchie ouch.
Boston Connor
Which I get it. That's, that's 100 miles an hour. That's cheese.
Pat McAfee
That hurts.
Boston Connor
That hurts.
Pat McAfee
Why did he do that?
Boston Connor
I, I go back, go back. Watch it.
Pat McAfee
Hold on. What should I be looking for? Can you do that again right after he Hits.
Boston Connor
He kind of does like, and then starts walking.
Pat McAfee
Really?
Boston Connor
Yeah. Just watch it.
Pat McAfee
I will, I will. I will watch it. It.
Boston Connor
See, you see how he kind of.
Pat McAfee
Does the next thing and then spot on, spot on, little thing. See, I saw him go, ah. And then do one of these and then jog like this.
Boston Connor
It really is just the neck positioning. You can see he really.
AJ Hawk
He just ate 100.
Boston Connor
No, I know, I know. I get it. I'm saying rightfully so. I mean, that would have killed me.
Pat McAfee
If you just ate 100 mile hour fast.
Boston Connor
He did. He's a big son of a show.
Pat McAfee
Hey, you're a dog. Hey, I like what baseball's doing, though. For sure. I like that.
Boston Connor
If I were the Dodgers, too, I'd stop throwing it to tease, because guess what? One of these times they're gonna hit Shohei in the head. They're gonna, you know, and if it's not him, it might be Mookie Betts or it might be Freddie Freeman, you know, like that. This stuff can get off the tracks pretty quickly, and I think we've kind of reached a fever pitch.
Pat McAfee
All right, shout out to baseball. College World Series this weekend will obviously be following along. Is Paul Skeens gonna pitch this weekend?
Boston Connor
He pitched yesterday, so probably not.
Pat McAfee
How'd it go?
Boston Connor
He pitched great, obviously. The Pirates.
Pat McAfee
Is there any pause?
Boston Connor
Pirates blue.
Pat McAfee
Who's there? Yeah, this is a problem. Where's this at? This is in Detroit. We're the best team in baseball. No one's there. It was a double header, though. School ball was the first game, so I assume they said, hey, we're gonna go to school. Best pitcher in the league. We'll go to that game. We're not going to skiing's game. This is school ball obviously. Moves the needle. I get schools. Paul Steam deserves more.
AJ Hawk
There was a lot of weather days yesterday or weather delays yesterday between those two games. I get Detroit. What are they? The best team in baseball.
Pat McAfee
They show up.
Ty Schmidt
Well, if they want to fill it up, take notes. Beating someone in the head and get people in those.
Pat McAfee
I think Paul would do that for his teammate.
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
It feels like that is a natural thing happening in baseball. Okay, let's move along. Shout out to baseball. And I like. I like what San Diego and LA are doing.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Good for baseball. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's great for football. Is he about to become great for goth? Ladies and gentlemen, fairway side reporter for the Travelers yesterday and senior NFL insider at espn, Adam Schefter. How you doing? Man.
Adam Schefter
Hello, gentlemen.
Pat McAfee
Did you see our report on baseball there about shohei Ohtani eating 100 mile an hour fastball to the shoulder? Don't you like that about. I like that about baseball, that you're allowed to do that.
Adam Schefter
Baseball is becoming a little bit like hockey, right?
Pat McAfee
Bingo. Okay, big sports guy, let's talk about all the sports that you cover now. Golf. Yesterday, Rory has his best day he's had in a long time with you following him along. How was yesterday and what was your experience as a golf reporter for the first time?
Adam Schefter
Honestly, one of the thrills of a lifetime. It was incredible to be alongside Mark Dameron right there. He was kind of telling me where I couldn't, couldn't walk. My great fear was that I would walk into somebody's backswing, be in the fairway and get drilled in the side of a head with some four iron. Like you don't know what's going to happen. So I'm like, mark, where are we going? Just follow me. Okay, great. So I'm following Mark Dameron along all day long. We're out there with Keegan Bradley. We're with Rory McElroy and Pat. I don't think it's a coincidence that both men both shot six under and finish in the top three golfers that day. Like, I don't know, is me following them or is it them just being on their A game? I don't really know, but it was a great day with them.
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah, it sounds like you're certainly leading to one. One reasoning. It sounds like.
Adam Schefter
Yep, yep, yep. I'm sure the fact that I was out there had everything to do with the fact that Rory and Keegan Bradley both shot 6 under. But I will say that honestly, both guys were tremendous. After the round, got a chance to spend time with both. They were gracious, they were great to watch, they were great to follow. I thanked them for allowing me to trail in the footsteps of their greatness. And it was a memorable day. Anytime you step out of your comfort zone, like right there, that ball went into the sewer grate. We're trying to describe what's going to happen. There were so many things about the day that I'll remember, but I remember doing the NBA sideline reporting five, six, seven years ago, pre pandemic. And it was tremendous being around those people. And this was the same kind of experience and I love doing it.
Pat McAfee
You, you mentioned how much you watch golf, how much you bet on golf. You're in like a couple different golf pools. It's like you're an actual golf now. Are you a good golf player? Like, were you trying to watch them and compare them to your golf game, or were you just talking about what you were observing in front of you? We didn't get a chance to watch your entire coverage yet. We have it bookmarked for this week. We'll go back to Thursday's round on Sunday. Then we'll get into Sunday's round, see how Scotty and Rory and Keegan are doing on that day.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Adam Schefter
No, Pat, I am not a good golfer. Not only am I not a good golfer, I suck at golf. And there was no part of my game that would resemble their game at all. Okay. But I do watch a lot of golfing. Yes, I'm in a fantasy league, and yes, I'm in this pool with my college buddies where we pick one, one golfer each week. So, like, from that perspective, I watch so much of it, and I just find it to be captivating, mesmerizing to watch these guys, how good they are at what they do. They hit shots like that that are just incredible where I would be buried. It would take me five shots to get out of there. They're right up on the green, like. And I teased Mark damner yesterday, and I heard a couple times, I watch a ton of PGA Tour live all the time, and these guys are saying, I don't know how they're going to get it on. This is a terrible lie. They're 180 out. Like, this is not the position you want to be. And all of a sudden, you know the guy's six feet from birdie. And Mark said it yesterday. When I go, mark, that's Rory McElroy. I don't care that he's got a side hill lie in the row. He's going to be on the green. And he was on the green.
Pat McAfee
You're saying seeing some of the shots that don't make any sense up close and personal is really the game changer for you. Got it. These golfers are great. I suck at golf. Golf as well. And I'm always mesmerized by those who are great at golf. I also think golf coverage, they figured it out. That's why our big question with Liv golf is like, hey, I don't think you need to reinvent the wheel here. Like, golf coverage is good. And like, the person walking with the groups. Great.
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
Pat McAfee
Great addition. Easy drop ins, too. Everything feels smooth. Obviously, they have the good shots docked. You can hear them. It's like, golf coverage is wonderful. I think it's why it's great background TV for everybody throughout the weekends, especially if Scheffler's T1, without a doubt, coming into the weekend. It's like, hey, there's going to be some magical moments. And Rory's in the dancing again after something now. Is it because of. What were they calling you out there yesterday, Adam Schefter? What were they calling you?
Adam Schefter
Yeah, by the end of that, some people call me Adam Scheffler. You know, we got Scheffler, Chefter, Shopley. We had a lot of. A lot of stuff going on. Right.
Pat McAfee
So, gee, a lot of shift going on. Yeah. Okay. Let's talk a little bit football, shall we, over the next few weeks.
Adam Schefter
Let's drum it up. Right.
Pat McAfee
Thank you. Yeah. Yes, let's do that. We had a good conversation earlier today, Shafter and us, about what day to day looks like, you know, for sports shows on a regular basis. And, you know, I think we pointed out to you something that you already know and I think something that ESPN knows, because I believe we know the deal that you signed and what it was and what other insiders signed for as well. You guys are the news generators, the news creators. One tweet from your particular account rattles not only a sports fan base or fan bases, but an entire sports ecosphere. Basically everything that could happen inside of it. So is there anything over the next few weeks that are brewing like that you know, of that you can foresee? Is there any outstanding storylines other than than Shemar Stewart and Trey Hendrickson in Cincinnati, other than, you know, is TJ Walk going to get signed? Is that basically the big ones that we're waiting on? And I guess Micah Parsons as well. Is there anything else that's kind of lingering through that maybe we haven't seen or heard of?
Adam Schefter
You know, first of all, let's go back to Wednesday a second because we bring up Jair Alexander, and as I'm on the phone, I misread the text. I get a text, Jair is here in the building right now in Baltimore. So as I'm on the phone with you at 12:36, I get a text that Jair is in the building right now. So I misread it because there was a text with an emoji prior to that. So there's always something going on in the NFL. That's the point, right? There's always something going on. So I would say this, that the Dolphins continue to have conversations about trading Jalen Ramsey, and I think that a trade there will get Done. The question is, when does it get done? Does it get done next week, the week after, prior to the start of training camp? I don't know exactly when it's going to be, but Jalen Ramsey will get traded. It'll be, I would expect, before the start of training camp. We'll see how it shakes out, where he goes. I think he would like to go to the west coast, to Los Angeles Rams, Chargers, somewhere like that, and we'll see how that happens. Now we're waiting on these contractual situations. We have a number of unresolved matters that I would expect that there would be some resolution with a lot of them. Trey Hendrickson, yes, he and the Bengals are talking. They're talking, but they haven't made a whole lot of progress so far. Now, that could change with one phone call and things could get heated up very quickly, but there hasn't been a lot of progress so far. They're stuck on the length of the deal. Bengals want fewer years. Hendrickson would like more years. And I think before you can figure out a value, you've got to figure out the length of the deal. And they haven't even been able to to do that right now. This deal isn't TGY would expect them to figure out something. He's the heart and soul of that team, just like Trey Hendrickson is for Cincinnati. Got to get a deal done for him. Micah Parsons is going to become the highest paid defensive player in NFL history at some point this summer. But here's the whole thing, Pat. Honestly, like these front offices, these coaching staffs, they go so hard all during the year. Most of them have finished wrapping up mandatory minicamps. Many of these people are going away, they're taking a break. They know how intense the next 10 months are going to be. So this is their one chance to get away. Which doesn't mean that something can happen in the next month. It always can. But nobody's in a rush to make anything happen till we get to, say, the week before training camp again. I would imagine some things will trickle in here and there. Couldn't predict what they will be, but there'll be some things that happen here between now and the starter training camp. But I think people in the NFL, they're trying to make the most of their quiet time at this time of year. I will say this. Keegan Bradley yesterday before the start of the round said, hey, if there's any Patriot news, please let me know during the round. I said, we'll see if we can make something happen. So I would have interrupted a significant enough. If there was significant enough Patriot News yesterday, I would have interrupted Keegan, and I don't know that he would have minded dropping a shot if the Patriots would have acquired the right guy.
Pat McAfee
Imagine Keegan lining up. We're about 210 yards out here on the third. He's lined up as Sheffield. Run you off, microphone yellow, Polo doing the entire thing. Okay, so you could have broken the Jair Alexander story on our program. That would have been cool. Especially because how big of fans we are of Jair Alexander. Those emojis and, like, the previews, and I don't like the AI email preview. You need to get out of my face. I don't need that. Just let me see the first line. Yeah, let me just see the first line there, Trey.
Adam Schefter
I like to see something factual, right? Like, I'm on the phone with you. I can't have a conversation. So I get an emoji and I get. He's in the building now. And I'm like, okay, well, okay, he's in the building. Like, I. So the deal is getting. I'm on the phone, so I can't really follow up in the emoji. I wasn't smart enough figure out what the emoji meant.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Hey, sometimes you're gonna miss some every once in a while, especially with this modern technology, with the way words are being transferred from one side to the other, which is kind of how you basically stated the Bengals and Trey Hendrickson's going. They're talking, but it's like a lot of what we said. What we said. All right, see you tomorrow.
Ty Schmidt
That's it.
Pat McAfee
All right.
Boston Connor
We're thinking 15 a year. What do you say?
Pat McAfee
We're still one year, right? That's what you reported. They're thinking, like, one year, maybe a boost of the contract, right?
Adam Schefter
Something like that. Right now that's on the table. That's been discussed. Who knows where it will come in?
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but they were thinking about, like, hey, we'll just boost this year for you, Then you have a chance to do a thing. That would be a Duke Tobin play. That would be a Cincinnati Bengal play. They wouldn't be the only team in the history that has done that where somebody feels undervalued. Well, let's do a negotiation just for this year. We'll get you an extra 7 year, 21 million. We'll give you an extra 7 million for 28 million. We'll give you an Extra 9 million for 30 million for this year. And then, bang, you're a free agent and he's like, no, I think I've earned long term security. We've done this now a couple different years. You could see how there would be at odds because I think Trey's entire thing is like you've told me for a year and a half now that this is going to get kicked down and now you're trying to literally do it again in this entire thing. Fascinating standoff between those two. TJ Water everybody assumes is going to get done. Jalen Ramsey being back, actively talked about. I think that's a nice reminder. I don't know if that's more breaking news. Jalen Ramsey, highly sought after, though. Is there a lot of teams that are looking at him?
Adam Schefter
Because there's definite interest. But again, the price tag is something that I think if it weren't there and let's just say we're a free agent, I think there would be more interest in him than there is now. There aren't a lot of teams that are ready, willing and able to foot the bill for what it would take to take on Jalen Ramsey. And so that's why there's got to be some discussion with the Dolphins and what they're willing to take on and what the team's willing to pay and how the trade would work out. But I would expect that he gets traded at some point here.
Pat McAfee
All right, we appreciate the hell out of you. We know you got a busy afternoon. Hurt. He's going to.
Boston Connor
No, really.
Pat McAfee
What?
Adam Schefter
Oh, oh, yeah. Conor will be interested in this. I have a conversation on the main stage at Fanatics Fest here in a couple hours with. With somebody that Keegan Bradley would like.
Boston Connor
Larry Kai.
Ty Schmidt
That would be my Robert Kraft.
Pat McAfee
Oh, you and you and Bob Kraft just having a conversation on the main stage at Fanatics Fest. You have prepared questions or we just rolling? Do you have one question to start the conversation or do we got. We got them all.
Adam Schefter
I have a couple of topics in my mind. Nothing really prepared. And we'll have a conversation and I'll play that conversation. And another conversation I'm going to schedule to have there with Chris Weber, another Michigan man, on my podcast next week.
Pat McAfee
Wow, Shafty's cooking. You're there.
Adam Schefter
Hey, you know what? Hey, Pat, it's mid to late June. You gotta have some fun, right? So you do golf one day, you do Fanatics Fest the next day.
Pat McAfee
The next day we do a little podcast and do a little news break, do a little gaff. But we never play golf because we suck. And I appreciate You.
Boston Connor
Amen.
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. He's on a main stage.
Boston Connor
That's a big deal.
Ty Schmidt
Bobble Craft, let's go.
AJ Hawk
I just want to throw this out there. I know Schefter said that Jalen wants to go to the west coast, but if you read tea leaves like we do, if you pay attention to Instagram like we do. Jalen has recently followed DeSean Elliott, DK Metcalf, Joey Porter Jr. Darius Slay. Those are all Pittsburgh Steelers. And he just liked a post on Instagram from the NFL that showed the new additions to the Pittsburgh Steelers this year. So just something.
Pat McAfee
Oh, so you're saying Shefty thinking that he wants to go back to the west coast might not be 100% accurate information at this exact time.
AJ Hawk
I'm just saying something to watch.
Ty Schmidt
You know what they say. West coast on the East Coast.
AJ Hawk
Bingo.
Pat McAfee
Pick up that 20 million and he's yours.
Ty Schmidt
Gladly.
Pat McAfee
No, I think that's probably a massive part of the negotiation. You said gladly. I'll take the 20 million. Because you're paying a quarterback 10 million.
Boston Connor
It.
Pat McAfee
Jalen Ramsey, DK Metcalf, Aaron Rogers, Darius.
AJ Hawk
One year, rest of our lives.
Pat McAfee
Cam Hayward still there.
Ty Schmidt
TJ Walk gets traded four quarters for.
AJ Hawk
The next 40 years of our lives.
Pat McAfee
So you're gonna pick up 20 million for Jalen Ramsey? This is a good question, actually. They just paid desean Welly Elliott. Well, put the W in.
Boston Connor
Elliott paid him well.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they did pay him. He's bringing the W. He's well off of you.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, good for him. As he should. He's certainly earned it. And TJ's deal is you're sitting there, and that's gonna be around 40 million a year.
AJ Hawk
If he doesn't want to take it, he doesn't have to.
Ty Schmidt
At a certain point, I think what Tony's saying is these players need to be happy with what they're making.
Pat McAfee
Is that what you're saying? Are you. Are you repeating the ownership from the Cincinnati Bengals at the owner's meeting?
AJ Hawk
I'm not an owner, so, yeah, I can say that.
Pat McAfee
All right. I don't think you need to be talking like that.
AJ Hawk
No, I don't.
Pat McAfee
Hey, tj. I hope you get a chance to see that.
Ty Schmidt
I mean, Tony. Tony might just know what we know, and that's that Nate, her big, is due for a 15 sack season.
Pat McAfee
Her big's a dog.
Ty Schmidt
Nick.
AJ Hawk
It's Nick.
Pat McAfee
Shit.
Ty Schmidt
Nate's brother who plays guard, who also might switch over to D tackle and get 15 sacks.
Pat McAfee
This year, Cam Hayward could teach him. Yeah, yeah, no problem. All right, let's talk a little bit about the NHL Florida Panthers go back to back in Stanley Cups, and they certainly are experienced and celebrating. And down there in South Florida, there's a lot of opportunities. Obviously. We saw the Elbow Room yesterday morning. Then they were on golf carts traveling around. Then they're going to different people's houses. Brad Marchand's actually a Dairy Queen. They're calling him the Dairy King. This morning they're serving the Brad Blizzards, which is his blizzard of choice down there in South Florida. I mean, they're getting. And last night they were down at 11, which I've never been inside of. I do believe we have some people in the building right now that have maybe frequented 11 whenever they head to the 305 area. Gumpy, what is 11 known for and what was last night like if you were to be there? You think it's a phenomenal establishment. You get a table there, have a.
AJ Hawk
Great time, and it is cranked and.
Pat McAfee
It never shuts down. It's a adult ballet, though, as well in there. It's a nightclub with an adult ballet. Okay, so it's a slash operation. We're having a good time.
AJ Hawk
Multi purpose arena.
Pat McAfee
And they were in there last night having a blast. And at one point throughout the evening, Sam Bennett, who is an absolute dog, there's no other way to put it, stats wise, leadership wise, he. There's one play from the series where he hits a guy, takes guy out, then he skates around, comes around the other side, just. Just everything that is Florida Panther hockey beast. And he's a free agent. And we were talking to Bill Zito the other day, and Bill Zito was talking about how we are going to spend to the cap. Ownership wants us to definitely do that. He's fully committed. We love what we have here. Our team's the tightest it's ever been. We hope we're able to keep everybody. Sam Bennett last night at 11 was like, I'm fucking staying, so don't you worry about it. Now he's a little boozed up. It is at Club 11. Sure. I don't know how le legally binding any of it is, but it sure feels like this entire team is planning on sticking around, staying together. And that's a beautiful thing if you're from South Florida because this team's a wagon and they're clearly the best team in the league and everybody else is just kind of looking up at them right now.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, especially when you look around the other teams in the Eastern Conference that are kind of not in shambles, but definitely aren't going to be coming back next year with as much firepower as, you know, the Panthers are. The Maple Leafs, obviously. Obviously. They're kind of up in arms. The Capitals, who had a great regular season, didn't play too well in the playoffs. Who knows with them? And then even the Carolina Hurricanes. It feels like the Carolina Hurricanes can do anything they want and they'll still get swept in the Eastern Conference finals. If you're a Panthers fan, you're thinking back to. Back to back three peak.
Pat McAfee
They're thinking, let's have a good time down here. Changing what Lord Stanley Cup's trips are normally like. If they put the itinerary on, I guess it's live on Sunday, King of Diamonds Monday swagger. Just dumb. They're calling it Kelly Bundy. That's what they're saying, right?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, probably.
Pat McAfee
About Lord Stanley Cup.
AJ Hawk
That's exactly what they're saying. You think they take tomorrow off? Tomorrow, Saturday, because the parade's Sunday.
Pat McAfee
Like, off. Off of what?
AJ Hawk
Drinking?
Boston Connor
No, certainly not.
Pat McAfee
These are hockey boys. I know hockey boys. This is just a part of the culture. I think it's potentially because there's so many Rush. Russians involved.
Ty Schmidt
Sure.
Pat McAfee
And the Russians, from what I've been told, just vodka is just like booze, I think, is just a normal thing, especially for European cultures. And then the Canadians, obviously, they have. They have one on a regular basis. So I think, like, alcohol culture is a little bit different in hockey. I think you are expected to have one with the lads if you ever do it. So I think they'll probably be having one tomorrow. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Barky's a Finnish lad. I know he fancies the gin a bit.
AJ Hawk
His father's Russian.
Boston Connor
I did feel bad for Rhino because he was hammered, still boozed up, and he had to go to raising canes. He had the hat on, the shirt on. And they asked him. He was like, thank God there was no sobriety test this morning.
Pat McAfee
No. Yeah. But he was talking about just to get to the event. Not because he was driving.
Boston Connor
No, sure.
Pat McAfee
No. He said he needed to be sober here to come.
Boston Connor
Right.
Pat McAfee
And he said, well, are you gonna be texting me or. Yeah, you're supposed to be drunk all day. Celebration Taylor Cup. You all started last night. Yeah.
Boston Connor
You want to check your figures or not?
Pat McAfee
Raise some chains, baby.
Ty Schmidt
Good cops down there, they're taking care of those boys.
Pat McAfee
Absolutely. Congrats to the Panthers. We'll be back on the other Side Game seven on Sunday. Sports are great. We'll see you then.
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Pat McAfee
Sports are happening and the Indiana Pacers last night just put on for the entire sports world. They obviously put on for Indianapolis in the state of Indiana and they forced the game seven down there in Oklahoma City on Sunday night in convincing fashion where everybody on the roster showed up. And now their record breaking unfathomable run continues. This Pacer team has been a lot of fun. They've been doubted, they've been counted out, they've been overlooked, they've been wished upon to disappear numerous times. The NBA actually didn't even put them on prime time television basically until like Eastern Conference final in this entire thing had to find the Ion network. Whenever they were taking on the Cleveland Cavaliers at the beginning of this, throughout the regular season, never, never saw this team. The world didn't, but Indiana did. And since the All Star break, all we thought to ourselves is, this team's got it. This team's very good. Tyrese came into full form. He went back to himself after having maybe a little bit of off season that was filled with a lot of chaos and maybe even a little injury that hindered him a little bit early. Then after the All Star break, which Pascal Siakam went to the All Star game and dominated, this team learned how to play again like they were last year, but even better. They were experienced. After what happened to them last year. Whenever they made it to the Eastern Conference finals in the Boston Celtics, switch swept them. They'd been there. They had done that. They understood the big stage. They knew what was waiting for them every step of the way. And now, for the first time since 2016, they will be playing in an NBA Finals game seven. In the most rumpus barn in all of sports is what they say. Sunday night is going to be historic. Legendary. I know both teams are ready for it, and I'm excited to watch the Pacers and how they show up for the city yet again. Again. Last night was awesome. We were lucky to be there. This has been an absolute thrill to watch this team do what they do. The toxic tables here at Boston, Connor, and at Tyschmitt. Sweet shirt.
Boston Connor
Hey, thank you very much. You know, I had to do it. And this is the best part, you know, I mean, you throw all the talking head bullshit out the window. I mean, it's all coming down to one game, you know, so everyone can pick against the Pacers time and time again. Hey, they're not good enough. OKC is the best team. We heard TJ McConnell's dad. It's game seven. Anything could happen. And that. And that's.
Pat McAfee
What else did he say?
Boston Connor
You know, he talked a little bit about how you're not okay. He missed two file shots. Didn't love that. Yeah, he missed two foul shots. I get her at because we won a game, but my son's going to play for an NBA championship. My son, he's gonna be part of it. It was awesome.
Pat McAfee
He's very proud.
Boston Connor
He did awesome.
Ty Schmidt
Isaiah Thomas.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
I love this guy.
Pat McAfee
Growing up, I'm happy there's a yinzer in the NBA Finals.
Boston Connor
Yes.
Pat McAfee
Like tj. We don't have a lot of Pittsburgh guys that go and make it to the NBA basketball. Obviously, we do not have a professional team. Although I think Pittsburgh good sports time. If the team was to be good, if there was an expansion of the NBA and it was placed in Pittsburgh, if the team was good, immediately got it. Team wasn't good for a bit would be very difficult. That'd be very difficult to get in there. Here we're city champions. Okay? Look around here. Look around. Pirates are a laughingstock. Penguins certainly in the middle of a transition here. Pittsburgh Steelers going all in. But you're not just getting dropped into our seawater. But Pittsburgh people being in the NBA Finals is a great thing for sports.
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
Pat McAfee
T.J. mcConnell exemplifies boppin wood. I mean, he is like the perfect player to represent Pittsburgh basketball technically. Sound, fundamentally sound, not scared of anything. We'll obviously lock it down, do the things that nobody else is willing to do, which is work for the entire game in the entire floor. What's that?
AJ Hawk
There's just been some great TJ McConnell tweets. So there was one that said he's the first special teamer to play in the NBA.
Pat McAfee
Bingo.
AJ Hawk
There was a lot of them saying, like, I'll tell you what, this kind of kills the narrative that the old school players couldn't play in today's nature.
Pat McAfee
NBA.
AJ Hawk
And then tell you what, he kind.
Pat McAfee
Of, you know, he kind of come.
AJ Hawk
I think he's a modern day Bob Koozie. If I had to, you know what? If I had really put a. Put a pin in it, SGA is no TJ McConnell.
Ty Schmidt
I mean, look, I love TJ like I love my brother, okay? But if. If we're talking modern day Koozie, we're talking Wemby in Kyrie irving combined.
Pat McAfee
Nonetheless, TJ McConnell was breaking some records throughout the entirety this 10, 5 and 5. He was the first player to do that in a game off the bench. He's become the first bench player in the history of the finals to have 60 points, 25 assists, 15 rebounds. He is getting TJ chants every time he walks onto the court. They show him up on the Jumbotron. The whole place obviously erupts. It would be like that in every city, I assume, with TJ McConnell. But it is perfect for the Indiana pacers to have T.J. mcConnell. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
And even in Philly. I don't know if it was like that when, when he was in Philadelphia with the Sixers, but he has kind of become T.J. mcConnell the guy for the Pacers and just for, you know, bench players, people who appreciate dudes coming off the bench and just going Bananas Celtics, Peyton Pritchard, kind of similar. This is also now going to be the second year in a row where Netflix will have the NBA champion on their starting five. Last year, they had Tatum. This year, they're. They're going behind the scenes with Tyrese and SGA throughout the entire season. So, like, you're talking about that. That is probably what. What every single documentary in the history of sports has been looking for. We saw it with quarterback and Peyton Manning doing it following Mahomes. They wanted to do Jalen Hurts, but Jalen Hurts kind of said no one. You know, it was the first round of the Eagles, Chiefs, super bowl. Now having two of the five players that they are following for the entire 2024, 2025 season being Tyrese and SGA, one guy wins the MVP, maybe, hopefully the other guy wins the NBA Finals. I mean, that. That is perfect.
Pat McAfee
I think people are going to fall in love with Ty, I assume with SGA as well, because of everything that we've heard about him as a teammate and how he operates. People are going to fall in love with Tyrese.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
If you get to know Tyres. Good dude.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. He feels like they did, even with the Olympics. Like, when. When. When it wasn't because he was playing and going off, it was because, like, he was the ultimate team guy on the bench. And then the tweets, of course, after, when you do nothing but still get an A on the group project, like, that's. That was kind of the beginning. And now here we are where it's like, yeah, this guy is the dude.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Life is wrestling for Tyrese. You know, he understands his role. Gotta do what he gotta do. All right. I'm not playing on 15. I mean, I'm certainly lucky to be here, though. It's not getting crazy.
Boston Connor
I'm gonna have a good time.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we are at the Olympics.
Ty Schmidt
Got the emoji next to my name while on X. Yeah, I'm gonna bring these vibes.
Pat McAfee
I get whatever my role is. But, like, around, obviously, he's a dog and a killer on the court. Like, that has been proven time and time again. Clutch shot, clutch shot, clutch shot, clutch shot. Gritting through whatever he's got going on, Excited to hear what it is whenever the series is done like, that. They're doing, like, an NHL approach to this whole thing. By the way, you'll find out what everybody's got after this thing. We're all battling through it. I love that, because that's not really the NBA's kind of narrative. You know, they're all playing through, but they are the entire team. The entire series has been. I love that. And Tyrus is funny too. Like actually like talker.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Normal human from Wisconsin, you know, obviously went to Iowa State, which he deems the best school in Iowa.
Boston Connor
And that's one of the few things that Tyrese is wrong about. But I love the guy, so I can. I'm willing to look past that.
Pat McAfee
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, from an attic in Ohio is a college football football national champion, a Super bowl champion, the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay packers, ladies and gentlemen, A.J.
Ty Schmidt
Hay.
Pat McAfee
How you doing, Hawker?
Mark Kriegel
Yeah, I'd say that was the definition of like a team. Hard fought victory, wouldn't you say, last night?
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I'd say good basketball team buckled down. It started terribly. Eight people score over 200 points in a single postseason. That becomes a record. There's a. They were underdogs, 10 wins or something like that. If they were to win obviously the Finals, they would have the most underdog wins in a postseason run. Since the Miami Heat, I believe. I think was the team.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. When they were the eight seed and they went all the way to the Finals.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So it's like they've been. This team is literally. And we don't have to do Bucks. Yes. They're going to win. Cavs number one overall seed in the East. Yup, they're going to win. Everybody, literally everybody had a microphone. And then you roll into that Knicks series, everybody wants the Knicks to win. So literally everybody picks the Knicks. And then in this one, everybody's picked Oklahoma City. It has literally been every single series this Pacers team supposed to lose by everybody that knows ball. You know, everybody that talks about ball is like, this Pacers team can't do it. This Pacers team can't do it. And then all of a sudden they show up and they went, they're up by 30 some in game six of the NBA Finals. And it's like, will there ever be a conversation about how great this Pacers team is? Not that the Oklahoma City team isn't. But I'm saying this Pacers team as a team, you're talking, they are a great basketball team. And I think they're proving a lot of things in 2025 for the NBA and basketball as a whole? AJ all right.
Mark Kriegel
I mean, they continue to, I guess defy the odds of what people think of them especially they're a seven and a half point dog on the road in game seven. I'm sure, like Rick Carlisle has to love this. Like, he has to love the narrative that no matter what we do, no matter how many games we win, people are always going to doubt us. And that's. As a coach, like, a team can absolutely rally around that. I feel like these guys, like, they own that. That's. That's their identity. Like, hey, okay, cool. We're gonna prove everybody wrong.
Pat McAfee
Tyrese Halliburton loves it, you know, hates that everybody talks, loves everybody talks. You know, it's kind of one of those. We were pulling up the scores of all the game sevens, 2016, 2013, 2010. I think there is one I was trying to figure out from memory because I just saw it on my screen. It was up there. Seven and a half feels like more than any of those scores were. Game seven, they were all pretty tight. They're all within like four or six.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
I think seven and a half feels like a big game seven spread. Like that legitimately feels like it. For a couple games there, though, the sportsbooks were right on. I mean, they knew exactly what was happening last night. They're obviously wrong. I do wonder how people will tend to bet in this particular game seven, because in my eyes, game seven, tight. Little bit of a cagey affair. Yeah, A.J. that's how I kind of view it. Don't you think? The same thing?
Mark Kriegel
Oh, for sure. I mean, this game last night was an elimination game for the Pacers, but not for Oklahoma City. Like, Oklahoma City know they have a little bit of a buffer and we can possibly go home and win this thing at home. Pacers.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Mark Kriegel
They knew backs against the wall, like, hey, every shot I miss is one step closer to us going home for the year.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. But even for the. That mentality now, too, like for okc, all the pressure's on them, and it has been the whole series. They're the favorites, you know, one of the best seasons ever, all that stuff. But now for. For them, it's, hey, we had a 32 lead. So if we. If we're going into game seven, hey, we can't be the team that blew a 32 lead. We. We've dominated this postseason run. This is also now going to play into the. The whole, hey, we haven't lost a back to back since last year. Like, everything is kind of in our favor, so to say. You could. But this, the seven and a half, I mean, it feels as though if they made it any smaller, even if. If the odds makers would want it to be smaller, they know all the money would come in on okc. And I bet it's still going to.
Pat McAfee
The stats say if you're trailing three to two and then you win game six, you'll go on with. You'll go on and win game seven. You know, Cavs, Heat, Lakers, obviously you see the graphic there. Good luck to the Indiana Pacers trying to do that. First back to back losses for the OKLAHOMA CITY Thunderson's 2024 is what it would take in a building that is going to be vibrant and alive. I think the Pacers might be the team to be able to do it. They thrive in that type of setting. But this Oklahoma City team's a real deal. Let's go through some of the scores here of the NBA game. Sevens there. 93, 89. What's that for? 95, 88, that's 7, 8379, that's 4, 8174, that's 7, 90, 84 is 600. 853, 111, 102. There's nine pointer in 1984. 105, 99, that's six in 1978. So seven and a half would be the biggest, you know. Yeah, yeah. Since 1984, I mean.
AJ Hawk
And the Pacers, that would be the.
Pat McAfee
Biggest Red Larry Bird in 1984.
Mark Kriegel
I can't believe they scored 111 points in 1984.
Ty Schmidt
That's Larry Legend, baby. That's what Larry Bird does. That's why he doesn't get enough respect. And that's exactly why I think he needs to be there for the Indiana pace.
Pat McAfee
He should.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Pat McAfee
I think he's. I think he's been around from what I've been told for some of these workouts for the draft, you know, because one half of the building right Now, I guess 80% of the building right now is trying to win a title. Yeah. And then there's 10 to 15, 20% of the building. That's like, oh, we got a draft next week. We got crazy free agency happening. Like they're really on top of each other. I mean their seasons are very much on top of each other. Like the NFL, obviously, if you go to the Super Bowl, February, everything kind of starts in March, but you still have like a month to do things. Right now this draft is next week about to kick off and really get rolling. Trading is supposed to happen before draft. Like everything's happening and the Pacer in Oklahoma City are all eyes on the finals. That's a weird thing for the NBA. I appreciate them like kind of double stamping when they have all the attention though. Okay, we got the finals and then guess what? Draft is coming in three days. Like you can kind of steal some, maybe rollover. But for the teams that are in this finals, this is, this is a nightmare. This is a nightmare situation as you look ahead to the future.
Mark Kriegel
Didn't we hear, wasn't it last year, Bill Zito even told us, like, the NHL is in somewhat of a similar situation. I don't know when their draft is, but I know they're absolutely working on next year when you normally would have already been out of the playoffs for three, four, five, six weeks by now.
Pat McAfee
Good problem to have the Pacers.
Mark Kriegel
Great problem.
Ty Schmidt
Traded one, I think either traded for a first round pick or traded a certain pick while they've been in the finals for next week's draft. So to your point, yeah, the GM has still been making moves and getting different picks for next week.
Pat McAfee
Let's talk about some stories that happen around the sports world outside of the Pacers forcing a Game 7 on Sunday. In about 25 minutes or so, we'll be talking to Mark Kriegel. Do you know who Mark Kriegle is?
Mark Kriegel
Yeah, I definitely recognize his face when I see it.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he's like one of the most noted boxing writers of all time. Has biographies written on, like, so many.
Mark Kriegel
I read his Pistol Pete book when I looked him up. I read his Pistol Pete book a while ago.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, a lot of books. New York Times bestseller. Like, I think he's like a very, very focused writer. Has a new book coming out or has already out his new, newest book, Baddest man, the Making of Mike Tyson, that was released on June 3rd.
Mark Kriegel
Great cover.
Pat McAfee
Great, great cover. And Ty tried to skim through as much as possible because we got sent a version of it. Anytime Mike Tyson's a part of it, people are going to want to read and learn about this one, I think. Good. I think like a lot of research has been done into this.
Boston Connor
Yeah, for sure. The kind of the. The sheet they sent us said that Kriegel early on followed him in his career. Like when Tyson, Tyson first came up and he said, I probably wrote like more scathing articles about this guy than anyone else. And he said in time, just like due to his upbringing and what he had to go through, like, he felt like he kind of needed to set the, the story straight and like, what actually makes Mike Tyson tick, and it goes into his upbringing, his relationship with Cuz the Amato, who was, you know, like his, his trainer and ended up actually, like, adopting him. And then there's just a bunch of other, like, very interesting tidbits that I saw in there. Like, they. A lot of people say that the rise of HBO is basically solely attributed to Mike Tyson because they didn't really have, like, serialized series or anything like that, but they got the boxing rights. And it said that HBO during his prime, during his run was like, making. You know, I think they were like, the subscriber base was going up, like, by millions and millions of. Of people every single month because they had all his fights. But, yeah, it's basically just a complete look at his life and. And kind of how he went from, like, you know, being hated by most people, you know, for a long time due to different, you know, like, situations. Situations, I guess a bunch of different situations. And how now he's kind of come back on the other side and he's like America's sweetheart and everyone loves him again.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, him. I wish I would have been more of age. Whenever it was the. Whoa.
Ty Schmidt
Come on.
Pat McAfee
It was my. They said he used to be swinging refrigerators. That is like, it was before Mythbusters or before they had the technology to test everything. They were just saying, yeah, hardest puncher in the history of punching. It's like two refrigerators thrown around. And he was trying to knock people out on a regular basis. Obviously, we all know the stories, but we can't wait to talk to Mark Kriegel about this particular book. I actually got to work with him at NFL AM on NFL Network. Back in the day, we used to have called times about 3am, 4am sure, that was a good time. He was always very good to me. Obviously an incredible author, but also big deal in the boxing world. Terence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez will have their first press conference for their mega super duper fight that's coming in September. I cannot wait to see what this new TKO and Riyadh season in the Ring magazine and Turkey and the crown prince, God bless him relationship is going to look like. But I know that if they're going to be Putting on Canelo vs Crawford in stadiums as their first one, and that's the game plan, I think boxing is about to be in a really good spot. Can't wait to ask Mark if he feels the exact same way.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, like, these are the fights that we talk about as me personally, at least that's more of a casual boxing fan. Like, these are the ones that you do really, really want to see. It's not, you know, Canelo versus some random guy. It's two guys that you are very well aware of whether you follow boxing or not. You know who Terence Crawford is, you know who Canelo Alvarez is. And like, if. If these guys kind of perform after what happened last time in Times Square, like, this will be a massive fight. This is like a Tyson, Fury, Wilder kind of type of billing.
Pat McAfee
Turkey came out and said, we want guys to fight in here.
Boston Connor
Yeah. No more of this Tom and Jerry bs.
Pat McAfee
Yes, we are. Because they did. They invested. Invested so much money in boxing. They, like. You hear all the boxing purists, people that we were a part of the weekend May 2nd in Madison Square, not Madison Square Garden. I'm sorry. In New York, Times Square. Sorry about that. In Times Square, they had a boxing event. We were there. The amount of money that's being invested into boxing right now to take care of the fighters, to take care of, like, everybody. And then the fights were. Or the punches were, like, the least in the history of boxing or something. They're like, nah, this can't be. We cannot ruin this right now. This is a great thing for boxing. Let's make sure we're fighting and we're setting the stage for a big one in Allegiant Stadium. Cannot wait to ask Mark his thoughts on it all. Wyndham Clark, golfer has apologized for beating shit out of the locker room in Oakmont.
Boston Connor
Yep.
Mark Kriegel
I mean, that's like one little kick. That's barely anything.
Pat McAfee
What, There's a couple different lockers here?
Mark Kriegel
Oh, yeah, I do. There's a couple. Couple. But, I mean, he could. He could flick those and that little mesh would go in.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I don't think the Oakmont has anything that's a little soft and meshy. Okay. This is Pittsburgh. Let's not forget that. But he. He could have certainly been so mad. He could have certainly been so mad that he. He. He walked up there and he actually did a. Boom. Yeah.
Boston Connor
Double kick.
Mark Kriegel
Double knees, double knees or double kicks.
Pat McAfee
Boom.
Mark Kriegel
Oh, I see.
Quentin Richardson
You got.
Pat McAfee
You gotta. Really. He walked in there.
Quentin Richardson
Oh, son of a.
Pat McAfee
So bad at goal. I hate. I hope.
Mark Kriegel
I hope there's footage.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because it could have been just one motion.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I think it was.
Pat McAfee
A lot of people are saying that's too different.
Boston Connor
No, not necessarily.
Pat McAfee
Boom. Kind of like Hawker maybe taking a. Maybe taking a. Yeah. That is kind of like the AJ Hawk mixed martial arts that we know. We know if it's him. But people are saying he was taking a lot of different hacks. Until I'm told otherwise, he still could have very. He might have even did one like boom.
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
Just one moment of bang, you know? So seems like it might have been a multiple attacks on the Oakmont locker room from Windham Clark. But that course would make you pissed off. But it could have been just one big act of frustration. So until we hear anything otherwise, I. I think we shouldn't just.
AJ Hawk
I think it was probably the one big act. He had a. One big act of frustration a few weeks before that when he. He hooked one off the tee and then just whipped his driver back into the. Into the gallery. So Windham's had a bit of a hot streak recently.
Pat McAfee
Into the crowd. Yeah. That's good.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. He strikes me as one of those guys, though, you know, like even after he won his major, just listening to him talk in an interview, like, oh, yeah, this guy's got a dark side. This guy taps in.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Now obviously Hatton has that unbelievable moment.
Boston Connor
Oh, he hoed it. Unbelievable.
Pat McAfee
He is awesome.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
But the way he gets frustrated, pissed.
Mark Kriegel
Every single shot, every day. Like he's. He's so fun to watch.
Pat McAfee
But he's so fun. I agree. For us to watch, but I worry about him when he lays down. It's just him, you know, when it's just. I used to be pretty hard on myself whenever it came to, you know, my. I would get upset. I mean, there was loud, if there was a shank on the field whenever practice in a game. Certainly mad.
Ty Schmidt
Training camp.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, training camp. Chuck Pagana had to move a drill because there was a bunch of like not make a wish, but like there was like a make a wish operation happening behind us. And I was punting backed up out of the end zone. And this is one of Chuck's first. I think it's Chuck's first year. Whatever River. And this is first period, obviously we're doing punt backed up punt. This sucks. I hate this. Got a one step it get a quick off. It won't be this fast, but we're making it ridiculously fast because it's training camp. Okay, I got it. All right. There should be a sense of feel though, right? If they're coming or.
Quentin Richardson
Nope.
Pat McAfee
We need this. Okay, so I hit a shitty one bad. First punt of the day. Bad, not good. You know, we want to see that ball go through the thing, especially with the crowd there. Teammates watching too. Always want to hit a bomb when teammates are watching, you know, want everybody to know, hey, the guy that's doing the punting here is a bomber. That's all. You just need to know everything. Start a practice, we get Something. Yeah, like, this is a big deal. Like, in my eyes, like, let's have a good time. Hit a shank immediately drop a mother loud. Right? And then we walk forward. Now we got the next rep or whatever. Chuck comes walking over. Make a wish. Pitch.
Ty Schmidt
What are you doing?
Pat McAfee
They're right here.
Ty Schmidt
Jeez.
Pat McAfee
They know.
Mark Kriegel
They gotta know.
Pat McAfee
J. An 8 year old. There's an 8 year old here right behind you. Sheesh. Move the drill up. Moves. Blows the whistle. Moves the drill up. That's my. That's like me and Chuck's first. One of our first interactions.
Ty Schmidt
I love.
Pat McAfee
Awesome. I laugh so hard afterwards just thinking of, like, also Chuck. Not my fault. Bike. Hey, listen. No, I apologize.
Boston Connor
I'm working.
Pat McAfee
I'm trying to become. This is how I become Tyrell Hatton. Though, like, when he lays down that. That's still. I hope it's not.
Mark Kriegel
You think he takes it home with him? I don't know. He might leave it at the course.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
I feel like the guys that let it out in the moment are the ones that do kind of like, okay, whatever. I can be pissed and continue to golf. It's the. It's the dudes who go into the clubhouse. Windham Clark and I'm sure there's a couple others.
Pat McAfee
One big act of frustration that then they go.
Quentin Richardson
Go home.
Ty Schmidt
Because now they're thinking about how bad they played. You can tell Wyndham Clark has been thinking about.
Boston Connor
Holy.
Ty Schmidt
I destroyed Oakmont's clubhouse for. For a week at the US Open, looking like a fool.
Pat McAfee
Well, that's what I'm like. I think Hatton's funny. Yeah.
Boston Connor
Hilarious.
Pat McAfee
I think he's very, very, very funny. The amount of times people have probably told him, you can't do that.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
He's like, what? Unbelievable.
Boston Connor
What do you mean, it's unbelievable? It's good tv.
Pat McAfee
He is great tv. Look at this. I hope he starts winning, you know.
Boston Connor
Well, we'll never see him.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
What?
Boston Connor
He's. He's on live, so.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but.
Mark Kriegel
Oh, he is live.
Pat McAfee
But we could get him in majors.
Mark Kriegel
Majors.
Boston Connor
Yeah, true.
Pat McAfee
I would like him to win majors because I would like to Sunday. I would like a Sunday with him.
AJ Hawk
The Opens.
Pat McAfee
His best chance in contention. I would like him in contention. It. I'm sorry, Mr. Hatton, I know this is not what you would want to do, but, boy, it would be great if he just accidentally, you know, we.
Ty Schmidt
Played one on 18.
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. That would be a special.
AJ Hawk
That's how Rambo used to be. But he kind of chilled out A bit unbelievable. Well, maybe it's because I haven't seen him go.
Mark Kriegel
Maybe you just don't see it.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Mark Kriegel
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
That being said, new PGA CEO.
Ty Schmidt
True.
Pat McAfee
Let's see.
AJ Hawk
Figure it out.
Mark Kriegel
Shake their hands.
Pat McAfee
Let's see how many we can. Yeah, we'll give you guys a couple scrambles.
AJ Hawk
And for those that don't know, he's the one on the left.
Pat McAfee
Yes. Oh, on the left there. Tiger woods is the one on the right. And the future of golf, in my eyes, very, very bright. I. I think we are very excited about what's to come. And I think what we just said there about people not being able to compete against each other, I'm thinking. I'm not have. I don't have any inside information. If a deal is to be made, there will be a deal. It's got good deal making. So I got faith. All right, let's do some. Something we don't normally do.
Mark Kriegel
AJ what would that be?
Pat McAfee
Well, let's take some questions from. From the people.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Pat McAfee
This morning, about 30 minutes before the show went live, I was going to the bathroom. Had a good night last night.
Ty Schmidt
It was a great time. Thank you for that again. That was. That was.
Pat McAfee
It's been a fun run with this baser.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, that's what we were taught. Like, all the games we got to go to.
Pat McAfee
This has been. It's been long and expensive, but it has been. It has been a very, very fun, enjoyable experience. I was like, you know what? We need to take some questions from. From the people. Haven't done in a long time. But I don't want questions just for me, you know, I don't want that type of situation. So it was just. Good question, good program question for the boys. Okay. Good program question. Sure. We found a couple. Nick found a couple. Let's roll through those right now. A.J. you will be asked to answer these questions as well. So please pay attention. Just like this one's from Nolan Gorman. Nolan Garman loves his dog up there. If the NFL ever expands, our NHL ever expands more, would Indy be a viable expansion spot? Seems like the Pacers crowd was giving hockey playoff vibes through tv. Hashtag good program question. I like how loud you. You thought we were. I like how excited you thought we were. Like, the NHL playoffs atmospheres are. I think Indianapolis would be a great hockey home. I've actually said that to people that need to hear it. I've said that to people that are in that world, in that sphere. There used to be a hockey team that played here. I Believe it was called the Racers. Maybe the Indianapolis Racers.
Boston Connor
The Indianapolis Ice were also here.
Pat McAfee
The Indianapolis Ice is the team. So I guess the Indianapolis Ice used to play here downtown. And they were like a semi pro pro team. They had a goon and everything. And my wife talks about as a child coming downtown Indianapolis to watch Indianapolis Ice. And when the Goon would come on, they made like a big thing. He was fighting. I mean, it was a whole thing. Well, by the time I got to Indianapolis, they were no longer like a semi pro team. They were like a high school junior B team. I watched three periods of this hockey. I'm from Pittsburgh. There was not a single fight or a single goal scored. Sure. So I had never seen worse hockey in my entire life. Like, I. Even high school school hockey has at least one of those.
Boston Connor
Yeah, one kid's real good.
Pat McAfee
Or at least kids that are so bad, they're just there to fight. Like, it was just. It was bad hockey. People were still there. It was like 10, 15,000 people in the arena watching this. The Indie Fuel are currently a hockey team up here in Fishers. They sell out, they fill up. They're I believe the Chicago Blackhawks or the la Chicago Blackhawks, I believe, affiliate team. They sell out here in the Fishers area. So, yes, I think Indianapolis would be a great NHL city if they would ever expand. And we would certainly love to help out with that happening. That would be great. S.A. crosby over here.
Boston Connor
Sure.
Pat McAfee
McDave. Connor McDavid saying he's doing best for his family. Families love Indianapolis.
Ty Schmidt
Marshan, bring in Marshan.
Pat McAfee
Bring in definitely Marshan for sure. Because, you know, how are you gonna be able to pay everybody? I don't know how you're gonna be able to pay everybody. Well, actually, yeah, we'll take Otter off of Dallas and say they don't want him. Yeah, he's locked in.
AJ Hawk
We fired our coach.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, that's actually a good point. Otter. Otter's lost in. In the past. Why don't we go after someone like Bob to what AJ's saying?
Pat McAfee
Bobrovski.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, we. We should.
Pat McAfee
All right, we'll take Bobrovski, too. Whatever. What we're saying is we'll start in the expansion draft. We will certainly be aggressive if they're to get a team here. And we would like to win immediately. Yeah, no doubt.
Boston Connor
Without a doubt.
Pat McAfee
But yes, this would be a good city for the NHL. Let's go to the next question, shall we? Good program question from C.J. stroud, enjoyer, Sean Bomb, real life if when T.J. mcConnell wins the finals MVP trophy. Could we maybe start thinking about having one? Yeah, I think we should think about having one. What were the odds on TJ McConnell winning the MVP trophy? And also, what were the odds on Tyrese? There's a couple good odds on these MVPs, so you're gonna have to shop.
AJ Hawk
Around for TJ not every book has TJ odds. I did shop around. I did put in a TJ ticket this morning for plus 11,000, which would mean what? I put in 25 to win $2,775. If you put in.
Pat McAfee
Oh, that's tasty.
AJ Hawk
If you put in a hundred, you'd win 11,000. So, you know, that's. That's not bad. Tyrese is. Is plus 15 or 1100.
Pat McAfee
Sorry. Right.
AJ Hawk
Right now. Which is. I think that's worth a tasty little treat, don't you think? Like, I mean, if they win game seven, I mean, P. SEM has been great, but he had 16 last night. Let's say he has 16 again. And Tyrese has, I don't know, 30 in a game seven win. Plus 1100 is a 100 to win $1100 is a tasty little more. So I believe.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Especially with the moments Tyrese has. Like, he had one game where he damn near had a triple double. It was you, like, 219 and 13 or something. And then he has the buzzer beater from game one. Like, let's say Tyrese does go out there and have a 30 point game or, you know, hopefully another buzzer beater to. To win it. Like, then all of a sudden we're talking about, yeah, Tyrese for sure.
Pat McAfee
And with that being said, Pascal Siakam could once again take it. Watching him play, I mean, that steel to the path, to the push, to the no look past to him going on that guy's head. It's like this Pacers team is awesome.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
They have so many great players. So much death. Pritchard, the president of basketball operations, and I don't know who all is a part of his staff. I guess I should learn more names in that department. It's like the team they've put together, the way they play, the way they've bought in, the way they've managed egos and salaries and talent. It's like unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Boston Connor
It's unbelievable.
Pat McAfee
Pascal traded from the Toronto Raptors. Thank God for that. Thank God for that. And obviously Tyrese traded. Thank God for that. TJ McConnell kicked out of town. Thank God. It's like our guys Nemhardt Neesmith, like literally, you start rattling off. Miles Turner was just kind of in transition era in the Pacers this entire time for 11, 11 years now he has yet defensive side, he's locked down, locking down. On the offensive side though, he is not. He's not getting a bounce. He's not. He's getting very unlucky. It's like if he was to spring a couple, all of a sudden we're rolling. Yeah, I think so. I like the Pacers on Sunday.
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure.
Ty Schmidt
And every.
Mark Kriegel
What about obi Top and MVP? Is there a line on that?
Pat McAfee
No, he had 20 last night, obviously. Yeah, Obi Top and Chance are awesome. He was just knocking down threes last night. No problem, right away, no questions asked. As soon as he gets on the court, he's like four seconds on the court right there. Yeah, he was just sitting on the sideline high fiving the security lady, like thanking her, giving. And then he's taking a bottle. Then he's high fiving people in the stands. Then he gets on the court, four seconds later, it's game six, elimination game. Pop it. No problem. It's like Obi Toppin's a problem.
Boston Connor
The tough, contested rebounds that he gets to like, he'll go up in just one arm. His paws must be so. I mean, they have to be. But like that. That is one thing you notice too. It's like a lot of the early on it felt like Oklahoma City was getting a bunch of offensive rebounds and he has. He comes in and it's just like he. He's just. He's just been rock solid. I cannot believe that the Knicks got rid of him and he just winded up being a Pacer.
Pat McAfee
Diggs has looked up Obi Toppins MVP.
AJ Hawk
I found him. He's plus 22,000. So TJ was plus 11,000. Obi plus 22,000.
Pat McAfee
That's the team, though. Eight players, over 200 points. It's like there's a lot of different stories that you could kind of go with here. Nam Hard's had some big minutes. I don't think anybody's talking about him.
Mark Kriegel
Being to the whole squad. First time ever. Give it to the whole squad. We couldn't single one guy out. Here we go.
Pat McAfee
And is it the same people voting that voted for like the Eastern Conference finals?
Ty Schmidt
I'm pretty sure to say maybe a couple more. It might be 11 people instead of nine.
Pat McAfee
Because once we saw that list, we're like the this is who is it? In real time. I think Reggie was Calling the game. Reggie Miller's calling the game. And then he has to cast the vote. It's like Reggie's probably vastly different than I am as a human, but when I'm on, it's like I'm just rolling, rolling. I'm not like thinking like, hey, who's.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
I'm not breaking down all this stuff. And then those votes have to happen in a two minute period.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
Boston Connor
Instantaneously.
Pat McAfee
And that was crazy. That's a crazy situation.
Ty Schmidt
That was a 5, 4 vote too. So I'm trying like, yeah, split down the middle. That is why the Pacers are so fun to watch, though. Like last night it's 10 to 2 okc. Like, I assume if you're a Thunder fan, you're just looking at SGA like, hey, let's see early on if SGA is going to be good when the, when the pacers are down 10, 2 and there's not like a standout player, like, because you know what you're going to get from Tyrese when you know he's a little banged up. There's never any doubt like that they can come back. Just because Everybody can score 20 points at any point in the game.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I, I've enjoyed this basketball run with the Pacers.
Boston Connor
Six guys in double figures last night.
Pat McAfee
And Carlisle, you might as well jot him down for a 30, 10 last time.
Boston Connor
Yeah, exactly. Maybe 30, 10 and 10.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, maybe 30, 20 and 10. Yeah, maybe something like that for Coach.
Ty Schmidt
Carlisle and TJ McConnell's dad.
Pat McAfee
I love every. TJ McConnell's dad had a big night. We had no idea. TJ McCall dad and Halliburton's dad. Oh, man, those guys need to just go do life. Need just ship them places and just.
Boston Connor
Say, hey, Amazing Race.
Pat McAfee
Bingo. Them taking on Talk and Mitt.
Boston Connor
Yep, sure.
Pat McAfee
You know, traveling in the mate. Yeah.
Mark Kriegel
Tough competition.
Ty Schmidt
They could do anything.
Pat McAfee
We got a little bit deeper into the reality conversation for mitt. We're not 100 sure which one's perfect for him at this exact stage. Amazing Race Race would be great for talking Mitt, but does anybody watch Amazing Race anymore? I don't.
Boston Connor
I don't even know if it's still a thing.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I used to love that show.
Pat McAfee
Great show. Yeah. I couldn't imagine the logistics is setting up.
AJ Hawk
I think any of them.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but does Amazing Race exist? That's what I'm saying.
AJ Hawk
Oh, no, for sure. Any of them that exist, like, even like Survivor would be Big Brother.
Boston Connor
Any jeopardy for me.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, for Jeopardy. That's not what I'm not. I don't know which celebrity. Jimmy, could you imagine every time a question. Oh.
Boston Connor
Minus 63,000 after the first round.
AJ Hawk
Cuz he has confidence that he'd be right.
Boston Connor
Getting a question wrong.
Pat McAfee
Dude. And then when they give the right. I was going to say that last question here. We're not getting into that. Well, what Connor just wrote on his dry race board. An idea. And we will certainly visit that off air. Last question here from the Internet is from Skippy with cricket at the Olympics in 2028, will it overtake NFL in North America? And when will there be a cricket correspondent on the show? All right. That's why we don't do the question.
Boston Connor
That's a good joke.
Quentin Richardson
Yep.
Mark Kriegel
Thank you. Appreciate you answering that properly.
Ty Schmidt
Trying. Trying to get into USA Soccer, brother. Cricket's got no chance. Okay?
Pat McAfee
Yeah, right. Lacrosse we're trying to get into. I'm already. Massive win last night. Who? USA Soccer. One nothing over Saudi. That's a big win for us.
AJ Hawk
On to the quarterfinals, boys.
Pat McAfee
I heard. Who's that? Ber. Halter's son. Handsome lad. Also proper delivery here as we just knock it home. Yeah, that's a big time. Who's that guy that scored there? Gumps Richards.
AJ Hawk
He's filthy.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so I think Ponch is trying to find his team right now, boys. Ponch went after the other coach last night. There's a little bit of a dust.
Ty Schmidt
I like that.
Pat McAfee
That's what I'm saying.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Pat McAfee
This. This what I been trying to say the entire time about this new Team usa. We fire our coaching staff this close to the World Cup. Co new coaching staff is going to have to try to find their team. Here we go.
Ty Schmidt
Is that the. Is punch a ball one?
Pat McAfee
No. Here comes punch Blue Blazer. You. You'll feel him. Get out of here. Take a seat. Bu. Get your hands off my guy. I'll fight you right now.
Boston Connor
Okay.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I mean. What a dog.
Boston Connor
I thought he was gonna go in there and throw punches, not just put his hands.
Pat McAfee
It's a soccer field. So what? You knew what was coming.
Boston Connor
Yeah, you're right.
Pat McAfee
You knew exactly what was coming.
Boston Connor
You're right.
Pat McAfee
Anyways, Ponch is trying to find his guys. He wants dogs. That's why he doesn't have.
Ty Schmidt
I like. I like the moxie of Chris Richards. I mean, the hair on that guy. It's. It's cool.
Boston Connor
I.
Ty Schmidt
Look, I'm not. I'm not just writing off team USA Soccer just yet, but I'm gonna need a little more a Little bit more of that.
Pat McAfee
A little more pizzazz.
Ty Schmidt
A little bit more pizzazz. A little bit more winning and a little bit more of punch being cool.
Pat McAfee
Winning. Yeah. I need a little bit more of.
AJ Hawk
That two game win streak.
Pat McAfee
Speaking of winning. Amen. And we're in a gold cup right now. We could win the entire concave.
Ty Schmidt
Trinidad Tobago I can't count.
AJ Hawk
That's two.
Pat McAfee
They had 11 guys on the field.
Boston Connor
Yeah, so did Saudi Arabia.
Pat McAfee
So that is both guys on the team. That's a whole nother conversation. That's. They should get more guys on team like we did.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Bunch guys we never heard. So this before we move to the boxing world there's been an update, a lot of updates from Ross about the new NIL commission clearinghouse thing and interesting the way it's kind of being handled. 133rd party nil deal have been submitted for athletes to the new commission and several remain under review while many others have been approved. We've talked about this before, we don't know how any of them are ever going to be able to get turned down because if a company wants to pay somebody a certain amount of money, who's to say what the window is of what the cash can be unless that commission is given power to put tiers onto certain things from. I think they would have to get that from actual government. I think they would have to empower this commission to be able to put like this is what a top end deal can look like at this position which that would be very difficult to do I think in a capitalistic society. So I don't know how it all works out but it's already off and running AJ it's already up and running. You upload your deal terms. This can include a contract or any correspondence with your payer that clearly describes the terms of this deal. You can skip this step for now but your deal terms will be required. Okay, you're gonna have to do that then you can confirm your deal. 3,700 in total. Here's the contract obligations. Social media for Instagram posts three pieces of content Unboxing videos for payer Social media website Appearance 2 hours 1 meet and greet so maybe this is just legitimizing these deals. So we know that they're going to get paid. We know that they're going to happen. Maybe this commission isn't here to turn down the money that people want to offer up for players but they're certainly there to make sure that the money is paid to the players and that they're Signing a good deal. I love that. If that's how this is being viewed, A.J.
Mark Kriegel
Yeah, I like this whole, like, how they're. They're showing how they can set it up to try to make it as easy and streamline the whole process so it doesn't take forever to try to get something approved. But you're right. I guess I would assume if you ask these people, they would say, hey, we're doing this to try to protect the athlete. Is that what this is for?
Pat McAfee
Feels like that's exactly what this is for. Because now it's being written and checked with a commission of people. This is exactly how this is supposed to go. Because remember, there was a lot of chatter about guys never getting paid.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
There's like three different lawsuits happening for a lot of millions of dollars because they were told they were going to get paid something, then they never got paid. And then you hear stories of everybody else getting paid big money. It's like these players are getting overpaid. It's like there's players getting screwed over right now, too, from these deals that are taking place. So if this is to legitimize the deals, I love that.
Boston Connor
I love everything about that and not letting these companies. I feel like we heard a bunch of times where, like, the guys would do what was initially agreed upon, and then it was like, like, oh, no, you didn't fulfill the terms of what you know, and you just. Then you're just left in the lurch. It's like, okay, I guess I'm not getting. So, like having that. Hey, you got four Instagram posts. You got one meet and greet. You do all that stuff. Like, those are the terms of this deal. I think that's very helpful as well.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I appreciate what they're doing. Good luck over there. Sheriff Seeley, good luck from the mlb. He's been tasked with taking this on. Former attorney General, I believe, and former lawyer. So he'll get to the bottom of it, and hopefully college sports will remain great forever.
Boston Connor
Close your eyes. Exhale.
Pat McAfee
Feel your body relax, and let go of whatever you're carrying today. Well, I'm letting go of the worry that I wouldn't get my new contacts in time for this class. I got them delivered free from 1-800-contacts. Oh, my gosh, they're so fast.
Ty Schmidt
And breathe.
Pat McAfee
Oh, sorry. I almost couldn't breathe when I saw the discount they gave me on my first order. O. Oh, sorry. Namaste.
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Pat McAfee
Speaking of sports, that will remain great forever. Feels like boxing is about to hit a big time resurgence. And obviously boxing was at its peak whenever there was a man throwing reference refrigerators around off of his wrist, that was Mike Tyson. There's a new book called Baddest man the Making of Mike Tyson done by the greatest biography writer in the history of sports.
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, a guy that was a co host alongside of me for about a week or two at NFL am. That's because how long I last, I don't remember how long he was on NFL am, but he was always very nice to me and he's incredibly talented. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Kriegel.
I
Thank you.
Pat McAfee
No problem. How are you doing, man? I remember those days, 3am NFL AM. And I remember being introduced to you as obviously knower of ball, knower of sports, but also this guy's like one of the greatest writers to ever exist at that time. I was mentioned that. Now I think Ty said you still got the fastball. He read through this. Absolutely love it. So writing, writing has always been your thing. And then punditry and commentary off the side. Or is it all kind of come together, Mark, work?
I
I don't know if it came together. First of all, I don't remember any of those NFL AMs.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I mean, like I remember you.
I
I remember you coming in and I flubbed something and. But I don't know. Writing doesn't come natural. Like I'm a bleeder. You know, someone once asked the great Red Smith, how do you do it? Oh, it's easy. I open up a vein. It ain't fun, man. I didn't want to do this. I owed the publisher money.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Yeah, I heard that. Whenever you talked to Scott Van Pelt. So you're, you had a book deal with a publisher, you owed them a book, I assume. And then you were trying to figure out what book to do. They mentioned Mike Tyson and then you said, okay, I'll do this.
I
No, I said, hell, there's no way I'd rather impale certain body parts. No. Than revisit Tyson in the 80s and 90s and who I was as a newspaper columnist. There used to be distinct newspapers. I wrote a column. That's right. I started writing about sports. I didn't want to revisit all the crap that I had written about him. Some of it was justified, some of it was overboard. But I wasn't really crazy about going back there. But I had just torn a hamstring and I was severely overmedicated. The guy calls and says, hey, listen, man, would you consider Tyson? No way. A friend of mine says, you can't give money back, man. It's like against the writers code.
Pat McAfee
Which probably.
I
Correct. And. And being overmedicated, I conned myself into thinking I could write a little slim, elegant, nice book about Mike Tyson. Like a kind of essay. And the thing about Tyson is once you get into him, he generates more story than anyone I've ever come across. And the other thing is that finding new stuff about him, that's a daunting task. It's not like he hasn't been discovered. It's not like there's anything that in the large parts of his life, we don't know. But I was. I was pretty surprised by a couple things, starting with I actually liked the guy.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because I think you were pretty critical of him back in the day when you were a sports columnist. I believe that was a big thing. Now you've learned about him. And I think one of the parts of this book is telling the story. And I think you told Scott Van Pelt this when you were talking to him. It's like how he has gone on this roller coaster of how the public feels about him and how you actually had a chance to chit chat with him and how it changed your opinion on who he was. And you viewed him, I believe you said, as a human for the first time, long time. Because he kind of let you in. I think the resurgence of Mike Tyson has been a cool kind of visit through transparency. You agree with that? Do you think Mike Tyson has just been more transparent about him? Why do you think there has been this revolutionary shift of respect and appreciation of what he's able to do in a boxing world, but also an understanding that he wasn't a perfect individual in his life. Why do you think that is happening at the moment?
I
There's a whole bunch of reasons, I hope in the book. This book has the, like, the cheat Code of why we're still addicted to Tyson. But part of it has to do with, you know, he was groomed, and you know this. He was groomed as a face. He was groomed as a good guy. And then he had a heel turn in real life. But he played that role better than anyone in the history of combat sports, certainly boxing. And at certain times, he did it with a wink. And the way that he's evolved and the way that he manipulated fear and the idea of him as the erstwhile, the former scary guy. And now you see him. And my book begins in a place I swear to God, I could never have imagined, with him watching his daughter play tennis in Orange county, like, of all places. And this guy was doomed. But he plays that heel role now that he doesn't have to fight and he doesn't have to be a bully, and he doesn't have to always shift his fear on you. He plays that with great style. I mean, there's always a kind of wink to it. And, you know, when you have bad guys and they have that wink, they get over, you know, exponentially. People become absolutely fascinated by him. And I think that's, in large measure, what happened with Tyson. The other thing is that for someone like me, as you get older, you get your ass kicked a little bit, that you admire a guy for what he can stand up against. Like, one thing that haters like me and Tyson's acolytes and Tyson himself never envisioned was that he would be here. I once asked him when he was 45, like, could you have imagined being here? He goes, no, I couldn't have imagined being alive. So I think you judge a guy by what he's passed through. In the case of Tyson, it's a neighborhood that was absolutely nuts. Like, calling it a ghetto or calling it violent is completely insufficient. It was like growing up, like in Mad Max. Addiction to booze, coke, the death of a child, incarceration, molestation, and boxing itself. Like, the typical script in boxing is, you know, the third act is the tragedy. Mike had tragedy during his fighting career, and then afterward, and now he's sitting there watching his kid play tennis. It's hard to not love that.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I got a chance to meet him at Times Square with the Ring magazine, City of Wolves. And it's like, as soon as Mike Tyson walks up, I'm like, oh, shit, this is Mike Tyson. I think, to your point, Rawle is going to be addicted to the Mike Tyson name and the Mike Tyson brand. And I'm happy as hell that the Baddest man, the Making of Mike Tyson is available now. We appreciate you doing this for a legend in sport. Now on that note, you, you've not only done it for Tyson, you've done it for many others. Go ahead, Connor.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Mark some of your other books about Pistol Pete, Joe Namath, Tyson. Now, do you notice, like, similarities between the greats? All three of those guys are all at, you know, the top tier of their respective sports. You notice like a similarity between some of them, whether is, you know, psychology or their training or how they are, you know, post their football or basketball or boxing life.
I
I mean, Tyson was a breakthrough for me because it was the first book I did about a guy who wasn't from like Western pa. Like Mancini was from Youngstown, which I think still had includes, you know, was part of Western pa. Alex Whip.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah.
I
Bieber Falls his name, something together. I mean, when you get that good that you need to have a certain perfectionism about you, I think that's it. The other thing is, is ego. You need a huge ego to succeed. But I think whatever holds true for other sports is true in spades for boxing. Like, you need an incredible set of balls to get in that ring. You're essentially naked. And there are three elements. It's you, it's the other guy, and there's the, and there's the audience and, and you know, the audience is what the audience is, what changed it. And if you ever get up into a ring to spar, you look down, you go, oh, shit. People are looking at me. And I think that what fighters, what fighters fear is not, is not the physical violence. It's not getting your ass kicked, it's humiliation.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
I
And that, that changes the whole thing. I'm sorry, my camera's.
Pat McAfee
No, you nailed it. You got it. You found it. You found it again. That was good. You actually slipped your way back right into that. Yeah. Yes.
I
We were slipping a punch.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, a little bit, but I think that's it.
I
But it's the ego and the whole Tyson story, the whole story of boxing today. Writing about Tyson reinforced this thing for me in a way. I didn't anticipate the whole damn thing with any combat sport. And again, I think boxing most is, it is a symphony of ego. The promoters, the managers, the fighters. And in this case, in the case of Tyson, it's the trainer. And I think, you know, Cus d' Amato, the guy who got him out of lockup as a juvenile, as a 13 year old, is often Sainted. And he may well deserve it, but it was a little bit more complicated than like this beautiful fable of like the old white guy and the kid he gets out of jail. It was really.
Pat McAfee
He would.
I
Cus d' Amato had such a huge ego, and he instilled in Tyson, or inflamed in Tyson, this huge ego. What he was really asking him for my money is make me live forever. Now Tyson pushes back on this with me and he says, well, didn't I? In other words, yes, I made him immortal. As long as they know my name, they're going to know his. My question in the book is like, hey, what price was that, man?
Pat McAfee
Yeah, well, Tyson gave it all. I mean, he was fully committed to the game. Go ahead, aj.
Mark Kriegel
Yeah, Mark, have you, like, what are, what are Tyson's views on some of his old press conferences? You know, he's talking about eating people's children. All of those colorful pressers that he gave us, that I thought was just a golden age in boxing. I appreciate him for that. But how does he view that now?
Pat McAfee
I don't.
I
Look, I mean, I don't want to give you the idea like we're pen pals or we, like, we video chat every day. I. I asked him one great favor. I said, listen, I probably wrote more bad stuff about you than anybody. I'm just asking you, do me a solid and, and let me do my work. And typically, people would call up and they would say, is it okay to speak to Kriegel? They call his wife. She said, yeah, it's okay. And that's all I could ask. People know his story. So we had a couple of like, zoom conversations. It's very interesting. Those pressers are part of why he stays with us. And especially the Eat yout Children stuff, what happened there. And we keep replaying it because again, he's the greatest heel ever. And to me that means as scary as he is, there's also something that makes you laugh. What in fact was going on with that was he had just knocked out a guy in a couple of seconds in Scotland, and he was hyping up a fight with Lennox Lewis. But he was in like the deepest state of grief because a kid, a famous stick up kid he was locked up with in Brooklyn had died. So he spent the last part of his camp just grieving. He was inconsolable. And that's what no one gets from, like the eat your children thing. He was half out of his mind with that. He was, he was really beside himself with, with grief.
Pat McAfee
You're saying there's context basically to everything that kind of happens. And in this book, hopefully we're going to explain a little bit more of that. Let's move off of Baddest man, the Making of Mike Tyson. And let's talk about the current state of boxing. At 2:30 Eastern, Canelo Crawford will have their first press conference. And obviously this is going to be the first big fight with Dana in Turkey and the crown prince and obviously Nick a part of it all in TKO kind of coming together. This is huge for boxing. This is good for boxing. What are your thoughts on like, kind of the state of boxing at its moment and what the future could be with the new group kind of trying to run things?
I
It's. It's huge for boxing. I think, think that boxing, at least in this country, does in fact, need some salvation. It's a great, great fight because on paper, I mean, Crawford. Crawford's older, he's smaller, and he's technically, in economic terms, he's the B side. So everything in boxing history says Crawford should lose. I don't think that's going to happen. I think that he's the savviest predator there is. I mean, he's giving up a huge amount of weight. But what is really cursed, boxing certainly in this country, are fights that you know the outcome to. If I know who's going to win, if the disparity between the A side and the B side is so damn big that I know who's going to win or it's a huge upset, why am I going to tune in? And that's what's plagued the sport. Because you haven't seen Crawford lose. It's difficult to envision in your head him in losing. And he's. He's incredibly resourceful. He's very violent. And I think that he feels like he's been cheated out of his prime. He didn't get the recognition he needs. That all that to me makes him dangerous. For Canelo, it's this pride. Has he been. Has he been living in silk pajamas all these years? Has he gotten, you know, metaphorically fat? I don't know, but we're going to see.
Pat McAfee
All right, well, Mark, we appreciate you stopping by. Will continue to chat, hopefully as the lead up for Canelo versus Crawford happens and everything taking place in boxing. Congrats on another great one, man. Congrats on.
I
Thank you so much. Appreciate it, fellas.
Pat McAfee
No problem. Ladies and gentlemen, Mark Kriegel. Yeah, I was a columnist. I had newspapers. Okay. I did a lot of writing.
Ty Schmidt
I talk more on Tyson than anybody.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I had to do. I have. It's part of the job, part of the profession. Just do me a solid, man. Let me do my job. Please. Yeah. Do this entire thing. Please. Please. I know what I did. Mark was always very nice to me. He was very serious, though, you know, like a very serious lad. And none of us remember what that NFL AM show was like. I know.
Mark Kriegel
Is there a. I did a couple days on there.
Pat McAfee
I did a few in LA.
Mark Kriegel
Yeah. Went out there. I think I did like three days. One week. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
3:00Am yeah. Yeah.
Mark Kriegel
Very weird. I said, why isn't this filmed on the New York studio?
Pat McAfee
Well, because it's out here.
Ty Schmidt
We get.
Mark Kriegel
We can lock your guest. They said we get guests and stuff. Being in LA, I was like, you got guys coming at 4am coming here.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we did. Look at us. We did go. I won a couple days. Sounds like you won a few days. Mark was there a few days. I remember that Molly was part of that team. Molly Caram. Oh, she was a part of that there at the time. Lavar Arrington, I believe, was there. Rhett. It was early. That's.
AJ Hawk
That's real early.
Pat McAfee
That's a different LA life for. You're living.
Boston Connor
Yeah. Going to bed at 6:00pm every night.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. See, I. I didn't do that well.
Boston Connor
Right.
Pat McAfee
You see, what I did was I. For every time.
Boston Connor
That's kind of just stay up until.
Pat McAfee
3:00Am yeah, kind of. We're in Los Angeles. Good to catch up with everybody. Also, we're doing TV all night here. Here we go. All right, Have a Great weekend. Game 7 of the NBA Finals on Sunday night, the Travelers is taking place. Scotty Scheffler tied for the lead. Should be an amazing weekend of sports. We can't wait to talk about it all on Monday. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. That's AJ Hawk, the. From the boys in the back. Everybody out here, you're the greatest people on earth. Thank you for allowing us to do this for a living. We'll see you on Monday. Goodbye. Baseball's happening as well.
Boston Connor
Oh, that's all right. Yeah, we. We covered it.
Mark Kriegel
By the way, I love the rivalries. I love everybody hitting. Everybody. Old school baseball. This is good, bro.
Pat McAfee
Oh, Tawny's getting beamed. 100 mile an hour fastball. Is that his head?
Mark Kriegel
The fact that it's 100 mile, like you're firing gas at him, like throw like an 88 mile an hour went off his ribs.
Boston Connor
That's not the point.
Ty Schmidt
Why the would they do that, aj?
Pat McAfee
What? Why are you not just saying it's Otani?
Ty Schmidt
I think it's only.
Pat McAfee
Dodgers is getting 300 million too, brother.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I think it's only cool because it's a hunter.
Boston Connor
And.
Ty Schmidt
And that's not to say I think the kneecap one hurt more, but I think it's only sweet because it's 100 in the back.
Boston Connor
I don't know that hundred off the shoulder blade, I'm sure.
Pat McAfee
Did you see Ty's reenactment, aj? He was nothing like. Yeah.
Mark Kriegel
Can I see it one more time? I did see it once.
Ty Schmidt
I saw.
Boston Connor
I almost need to see the video. If I remember correctly, takes it off the shoulder blade and then wears it. Yep, there it is.
Mark Kriegel
Oh, it's the head.
Pat McAfee
I couldn't even imagine the head to the sky.
AJ Hawk
I get it because we wore an 80 and that hurts.
Boston Connor
Yeah, very bad.
Pat McAfee
What, in high school or something?
Mark Kriegel
Yeah, it all hurts.
Pat McAfee
Ty told me that he's aiming at.
Boston Connor
Somebody'S jaw if they're on the plate.
Mark Kriegel
I mean, if you are standing on the plate, you can't get too upset if you get clipped.
Ty Schmidt
That's business.
Pat McAfee
You played baseball, A.J. high School.
Mark Kriegel
Yeah. Not in high school. I just played all growing up. Did all the travel stuff. Got burned out by end 8th grade.
Pat McAfee
Sounds like a Dan Orlovsky story. Were you up there on the. On the plate whenever you're in the batter's box. Is that your plate? No. Wow.
Mark Kriegel
No, normal, Normal, you know, stance. I wasn't crowned the plate. We didn't have big pads on our elbows and all that bag.
Pat McAfee
Well, it would have been cool. Just go out there. Knee pad, hip pad?
AJ Hawk
Sure, yeah.
Pat McAfee
Right over top of the bat, Right over top of the plate. People do that.
Mark Kriegel
I mean, I do now.
Boston Connor
Not. Yeah, I guess I. I really haven't seen what kids in high school are wearing, but I. I'm sure they're pretty swagged up, but like. Yeah, when we were in high school, no one was wearing elbow pads or any of that shit.
Pat McAfee
And they were lining up where in the batter's ball.
Boston Connor
I cried at the plate like a son of a bitch.
Pat McAfee
You bet you're trying to get hit.
Boston Connor
No, just. Let's shrink this strike zone down big time.
Mark Kriegel
I would hit dudes all the time when I was. If I got down, I pit. Like, if I'm pitching, and I've told you this before, if I get down 30 in the count, I'm hitting the dude on the fourth pitch. Because I know I'm not throwing three straight strikes to this guy.
Pat McAfee
Okay?
Mark Kriegel
I didn't have. I didn't have that control, so I had to.
Pat McAfee
This is just a law of averages here. I need to do as much damage as I can here. I'm not going to be able to throw three straight strikes. This was three zero, by the way. Oh, okay. This is the fourth pitch. Good call, A.J. that's what this guy said. I'm not going to be able to get three strikes past this guy. Might as well just go ahead and send him on his way with a nice little. How you doing? 100 miles an hour to the shoulder. Clayton Kershaw, 38 years old, 39 years old. He was halfway over the. Hold on now, Texas boy. Hold on now.
AJ Hawk
He said, this is not going to surprise you because you know how he was back then. CFO Phil would stand basically on the plate and then just wouldn't even flinch. He got hit 100 times, maybe.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. He would probably get that shoulder and just right over top of the plate. They called that kid out in Gage Woods. No hitter for leaning into it, though. Hit that guy.
Boston Connor
Yeah, that's.
Pat McAfee
That's what I think. You just threw the third ever. No, no. In the history of the College World Series. What are your thoughts on that? Shouldn't have hit that guy. That's it. That's all I got.
Boston Connor
Okay.
Pat McAfee
Okay.
Boston Connor
Go have fun with your teammate.
Pat McAfee
Good luck. He was awesome. What a week it has been. Let's go around the horn here. Favorite thing that happened this week. We'll start with you, AP Tone.
AJ Hawk
I mean, it's very simple. It's very easy. It's the Pacers making it to game seven.
Boston Connor
Ty Schmidt, you Yankees. I mean, it's also the Pacers, but the Yankees snapped their six games losing streak.
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah, they were the Pirates there for a bit.
AJ Hawk
They were.
Boston Connor
For a week they were the Pirates. And now, you know, they're the.
AJ Hawk
Oh, they were playing salty ball.
Boston Connor
Sure, sure, they were playing salty ball. But they've snapped that and they are now going back to, you know, being the kings of the AL East.
Pat McAfee
Boston. Connor.
Ty Schmidt
Favorite thing this week, mom, was SpaceX blowing up. Because I've never seen anything like that before in my entire life. But I thought it was cool.
Pat McAfee
Those things have to happen, obviously, for us to get to the point where they don't blow up. Any tiny little mistake with that much gas.
Ty Schmidt
Never seen that. I've only seen the movies.
Pat McAfee
Things are gonna go. Here's the video that Connor is referring to because we have not showed it on this particular program. And it is over.
Ty Schmidt
Oh, there's another one. Double boom.
AJ Hawk
How many astronauts?
Ty Schmidt
That's five. Big boom.
Boston Connor
Yeah, I don't.
Ty Schmidt
No one died. No one died.
Pat McAfee
Nope, nope, nope.
Ty Schmidt
It wouldn't be my favorite thing if someone died, man.
Pat McAfee
Obviously. Good thing this week that happened at the euchre table yesterday, I think. Oh yeah.
Ty Schmidt
I mean that. Yeah, that might be my favorite part too. D Butts and Bone were euchre partners. Bill and Foxy and me and Pat. And me and Pat went 5, 0. Beat the piss out of those four. Just over and over again. Actually started game one. Pat and I were down 9, 6, which is kind of like what the Pacers were down three, two. And then two rounds. Sorry, not two rounds. Two, two hands back to back down. Nine, six. We go euchre. Hold on.
Pat McAfee
Oh, nine, eight.
Ty Schmidt
All of a sudden that's a two pointer. And then we go clean sweep. Five, zero.
Pat McAfee
Oh wait, ten, nine.
Ty Schmidt
All of a sudden that's a ten, nine victory. And then that was just game one. And like I said, we played five total games. We had four more wins after that. We beat Foxy and Bill three and a half hours. Yeah, I mean long time we were.
Pat McAfee
Downtown, you know, with where we live. Whenever the Pacers have a game and we do our show live from the arena. It's like with tra. Like what is the last night. I think we had enough time. I could have made it home, made it back, maybe should have done that. Instead we just stayed downtown at this place called Commission Rose. This restaurant down here in Indianapolis. I think it opened in June or January.
Boston Connor
I mean, man, phenomenal.
Pat McAfee
It's awesome.
Mark Kriegel
The whole area was cool. I haven't been. I haven't been down there in a while. Going to Gainbridge and seeing the whole area, how it's developed around this. The arena's sweet.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That restaurant that's right next to the arena there, Commission Row, that might be the nice restaurant I've ever been in.
Boston Connor
It's the nicest restaurant in Indy, hands down.
Pat McAfee
Might be the nicest restaurant I've ever gone in. And the food is good. It's not like you go to a nice place and it's terrible food.
Ty Schmidt
Delicious.
Pat McAfee
It's like very, very good food. They, that place is brand new. They know they got to fight for, you know, like I don't say clientele every inch customers. It's brand new. Cuz there's a lot of restaurants downtown off obviously like historic restaurants. In downtown Indianapolis, Commission Row. That place is very nice. I mean, and they've been very good to us, obviously. But the location, the food, the service, the way. There's a speakeasy down in the basement, I think.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Mel's.
Pat McAfee
There's a speakeasy down there. Yeah, it's.
AJ Hawk
They got a different menu for the speakeasy too. It's pretty cool.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So, you know, Indianapolis, really done here. Really done it. And a pasture is obviously the straw that stirring the drink in the city right now. That's right. And you know what that drink is? Gel view. It is. You know what that drink is? Good time. You know what that drink is. It's down to its final sip. It's game seven on Sunday. Yeah. AJ how do you feel? Game seven goes for the Indiana Pacers, Oklahoma City Thunder to determine in four quarters, maybe overtime, maybe, who are the NBA champions of the 2024, 2025 season. At this moment on Friday, 2:04 Eastern, the Thunder are seven and a half point favorites. That would be the. If the spread was eight, that'd be the largest spread in the history of NBA game sevens six since 1988. Good year, A.J.
Mark Kriegel
Well, sitting here Friday a couple days before the game, Tyrese, how he looked, how he played. I feel much better about his cap and his leg, everything that's going on, his lower body situation. He has. But the more I think about it, I just keep seeing Pacers 109, Thunder 101 and the Thunder arena being heartbroken. The Pacers come in there and find a way.
Pat McAfee
I like that. Tyrese will in those Pacers boys will operate accurately in another arena if they were to win a title there. It has gone down to six and a half now on espn. It's been moving, been moving back and forth. A little bit of dancing, little bit of dance at six and a half. Seven and a half. Nonetheless. Tyrese Haliburton did look healthy last night.
Boston Connor
Yes, he did.
Pat McAfee
Got to rest all fourth quarter. Got an opportunity here for a couple days now. Friday, Saturday, all of Sunday, 8pm late start on a Sunday.
Boston Connor
Yep.
Pat McAfee
So we move that to 6:30 on Sunday.
Boston Connor
Just a thought.
Pat McAfee
So in the Super Bowls play, 7 o' clock on 8 o' clock. That's a late one on Sunday. West coast, though. We want you to come enjoy. Yeah, sure. Come enjoy. Five o' clock. That's actually pretty good time.
Boston Connor
Yeah, not bad.
Pat McAfee
Five o' clock on a bad start anyways. Eight o' clock, ABC Sunday. I agree with you, A.J. indiana P. Take it home. Let's go, boys.
Ty Schmidt
Here we go.
Pat McAfee
Let's have one. I don't think I'm. I'm going to be. I don't know if they're releasing any tickets.
AJ Hawk
No, No, I don't think so.
Ty Schmidt
Definitely not. Keep that demand high.
AJ Hawk
I reached out and they said no.
Pat McAfee
You did? Yeah. Thank you for doing that. That's my favorite thing of the week, is that you reach out to Oklahoma City.
Ty Schmidt
Nice.
Pat McAfee
AJ what's your favorite thing of the week? Aaron Rodgers walking around on a beach all jacked up.
Mark Kriegel
I mean, that's nice. I. I have a hard time not going with the seokum dunk, the Tyrese Steel Siakam dunk. I'm sitting there watching live like, okay, this game. Here we go. Let's go to game seven already.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That was a good moment. The. The. The place.
Mark Kriegel
It's awesome. So awesome.
Pat McAfee
Steel, give me that. In my pink H ones. I had my H golds on Reggie Noah right there. There. Regimel right in front row. He almost passes it to Tyrese Barkley jacket. Do it. No, look. Do it.
Mark Kriegel
No, look at that.
Pat McAfee
He said, you got it. No, look. Oh, put him in a blender. Dort Williams. Ah. OB toppin in the back. All of Indiana goes insane. What a moment. What a moment. What a moment.
Boston Connor
What a moment.
AJ Hawk
Oh, also this week, complete close second. JJ spawns putt.
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah, man.
Pat McAfee
64Ft for immortality.
Mark Kriegel
How's he doing at Travelers?
Boston Connor
He was three over day one.
Mark Kriegel
Understandable.
Pat McAfee
He was doing a tour. He was doing a tour. Yeah. He did it today. Show. He did. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
He got 4.6 last week. He's good.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. This. This one's worth three and a half.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Three five, three, eight.
Pat McAfee
Three and a half million to the winner.
Mark Kriegel
Is JJ going to be on the Ryder cup team?
AJ Hawk
As of right now, he is. Yes.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Pat McAfee
Those putters we've been told, are on away.
Boston Connor
Okay.
Pat McAfee
Maybe I'm on a Ryder cup team, too.
Ty Schmidt
Look out.
Mark Kriegel
Never know. Keegan Bradley might be watching. He knows. He saw you coming out of the pocket.
Ty Schmidt
He's the coach.
Mark Kriegel
Captain.
Pat McAfee
We know that my issue isn't necessarily coming out of the park.
Boston Connor
Sure.
Pat McAfee
I'll come out of the pocket now. Do I know where the driver's going? Not really, but the deuce. I kind of got that one figured out. It's not going to be as far as. But the two wood will put me in play. My iron's not terrible. If I'm in a bad lay, I'm in trouble because I don't have good ball. Contact. I'm mostly. I'm meeting through that thing every single time. But when I get to the green, that's where the trouble really begins. For some reason. Just can't knock it down. Haven't been able to find my putter. That's why J.J. spawn told me with the putter that he won with. When I start putting, all of a sudden, I'm Mr. Walter Putt.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
That's what he said was gonna happen. I seen him do it from 64ft. There's a current US team. Scotty Scheffler. Xander Shoffley. JJ Spawn. D. Sham Bro. Justin Thomas, Colin Morikawa. I like to hear that. So the lift guys are in? Yeah. Yeah.
Mark Kriegel
Well, he's automatically. Yeah, because he is. Yeah, he's qualified because he.
Pat McAfee
What?
Mark Kriegel
Bryson won the major. Right. But everyone else would have to be a captain's pick if they're a live dude.
Pat McAfee
You need to look out for Maverick McNeely.
Ty Schmidt
Good locker room guy, good player.
Pat McAfee
And Andrew Novak. Once he gets Yachin, that's when the.
Mark Kriegel
Boys could pick himself.
Ty Schmidt
Too good.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, and he probably will. I mean, Russell Henley certainly put up a good fight to make the team. And Ben Griffin, we know, obviously, the Griffin family.
Ty Schmidt
Novak.
Mark Kriegel
Yeah. Novak.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, no win. He's yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck, yucking it up. And. And then the. They don't call him hard man for no reason. No, they don't. He is a hard man.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Oh, Brian.
AJ Hawk
Need a lefty.
Pat McAfee
Need a lefty. Respectfully, to this list, we need none of those guys at the bottom.
Boston Connor
To be honest, couldn't agree more.
Ty Schmidt
Foxy.
Pat McAfee
What are you talking about? No, I like the guys at the top. They're all big names, and they're all great golfers. Let's keep it that way.
AJ Hawk
Brooks will get added.
Pat McAfee
What about Windows? I like the way Brooks is operating. He looks like he's having more fun than ever. It does, because I learned on Super Swing he was not having a blast.
Boston Connor
True.
Pat McAfee
What's this for?
Boston Connor
There's only one thing it could be for.
Pat McAfee
What's this? What's this all about, AJ what do you mean?
Mark Kriegel
I think there's only one thing it can. Like Ty said, this has got to be. Pacers.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Boston Connor
NBA championship ball.
Pat McAfee
Wow.
Mark Kriegel
Imagine that. That's great. Here we are, game seven on the horizon.
Pat McAfee
It all comes down to this.
Mark Kriegel
You got it. It's going in.
Boston Connor
All right. So the Thunder going to dominate the first quarter.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Yep.
Mark Kriegel
Here we go.
Pat McAfee
Second quarter, that's been happening. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Which Is expected.
Mark Kriegel
Let him have it.
Ty Schmidt
Second down by ten and a half. One. Yeah. Uphill battle.
Pat McAfee
And then tricky Ricky saying, this second half, it's ours, boys.
Ty Schmidt
It's ball wood. And now the fourth quarter.
Pat McAfee
See how flat that ball?
Boston Connor
That ball's flat. That doesn't count.
Ty Schmidt
T ball so flat.
Pat McAfee
This is the best ball counts. It all comes down to this. You got it?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
I said right for us.
Ty Schmidt
This is a world championship.
Pat McAfee
Yes, it is.
Ty Schmidt
You need an international ball.
Pat McAfee
Oh, no.
AJ Hawk
See, a lot of people. A lot of people say since you're shooting for the thunder that you're missing on purpose.
Boston Connor
Yep.
Ty Schmidt
Yep. Paddle barrel. Barrel. Barrel.
Mark Kriegel
Pull him. Tell Mitt to come. Pull. You pull him.
Quentin Richardson
Mitt.
AJ Hawk
Come on.
Pat McAfee
M got. Pull the surfboard.
AJ Hawk
Don't touch the lava.
Ty Schmidt
M. From the board. From the board.
Mark Kriegel
Oh, yeah. From the board.
Ty Schmidt
Riding the storm or the hol.
Mark Kriegel
Do a holly.
Pat McAfee
Thank God Steve sent that. No kidding. For the pace.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Oh, all right.
Ty Schmidt
I mean, if.
Boston Connor
If you want. It is on YouTube.
Pat McAfee
Presented by. Forgot about that. I'll tell you what. YouTube TV makes it easier to be a fan.
Boston Connor
They do.
Pat McAfee
You can watch all the sports and live TV in one app right now. You go ahead and scan this QR code two months 59.99 at YouTube TV, you can get the quad box experience. 59.99. Are you kidding me? Wow. Shout out to YouTube TV. Shout out to this universe ball too. Here, here. Oh.
Mark Kriegel
Heavy or something.
Boston Connor
You got rocks inside that thing. Ball was covered with paint.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, of course.
Pat McAfee
I thought it was going in lacquer.
AJ Hawk
All over that thing. Much goddamn lacquer on that thing.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Just start throwing something nice. Might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team. I don't love that going in a week. Let's have a great weekend.
Ty Schmidt
It's okay.
Pat McAfee
Have a good week. That doesn't mean anything.
Ty Schmidt
Mean?
Pat McAfee
That means nothing.
Ty Schmidt
Missed him yesterday.
AJ Hawk
Tell you what, I'll eat one here. Those balls were. See if I was going to have a good weekend or not.
Boston Connor
Thank you, Tony.
Pat McAfee
Thank you. Ton's going to have a terrible weekend for the good of all of us.
AJ Hawk
That's right.
Pat McAfee
For he loved us so much. He gave us his terrible weekend so we could have a good one.
AJ Hawk
Joseph314 thank you, Tone.
Pat McAfee
Tone317 what?
AJ Hawk
Hell yeah.
Pat McAfee
Be a friend. Tell a friend something I said. Change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. We'll see you on Monday. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. In 1979, the first words spoken on ESPN weren't just an announce announcement. If you're a fan, they were a sports prophecy. What you'll see in the next minutes, hours and days to follow. Glad you're with us tonight. May convince you you've gone to sports heaven. And right now you're standing on the edge of tomorrow.
Adam Schefter
This fall, the next era of ESPN begins Sports forever.
Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show – PMS 2.0 1365
Release Date: June 20, 2025
Guests: Quentin Richardson, Adam Schefter, Mark Kriegel, AJ Hawk
Topic: Indiana Pacers Force Game 7 in NBA Finals against Oklahoma City Thunder
On this Feel Great Friday, Pat McAfee and his dynamic panel delve into the electrifying developments of the NBA Finals, where the Indiana Pacers have forcefully advanced to a decisive Game 7 against the leading Oklahoma City Thunder. The episode offers comprehensive analysis, insider insights, and enthusiastic discussions, ensuring listeners are well-informed and entertained.
The episode kicks off with Pat McAfee's excitement about the Indiana Pacers' performance in Game 6, which led to the forcing of Game 7. He describes the atmosphere in Indianapolis as "electrifying" and praises the Pacers for defying expectations.
Pat McAfee [00:00]: "Last night, Game six in Indianapolis Indiana was electrifying. We were lucky enough to be in the building."
Pat highlights the resilience of the Pacers, particularly focusing on Tyrese Halliburton’s determination despite injuries and the overall team performance.
Pat McAfee [00:50]: "Tyrese Halliburton... gritted his ass through a calf and an ankle injury last night."
The panel discusses the standout performances from various players:
Pat McAfee [05:10]: "He was incredible. T.J. McConnell's dad said he's incredibly proud. 'On Sunday, I'm going to Oklahoma City to watch my son play for a world championship.'"
The discussion shifts to the strategic adjustments made by the Pacers and the anticipation surrounding their trip to Oklahoma City for Game 7. The team’s underdog mentality and strong fan support are emphasized as key factors for their continued success.
Ty Schmidt [02:26]: "Unbelievable. One of the best environments I've ever been in."
Mark Kriegel [68:01]: "They continue to defy the odds... this is a nightmare situation as you look ahead to the future."
Quentin Richardson shares his excitement about the Pacers forcing a Game 7 and offers his professional perspective on the team's dynamics and the potential outcomes of the upcoming game.
Quentin Richardson [14:30]: "I mean, anything can happen in this game seven. This is why, you know, if you were in OKC's situation, you wanted to try and end it last night, but clearly, that didn't happen."
Adam Schefter provides updates beyond basketball, touching on football trades and contract negotiations, particularly focusing on Jalen Ramsey's potential trade from the Dolphins and Trey Hendrickson's ongoing negotiations with the Bengals.
Adam Schefter [43:38]: "The Dolphins continue to have conversations about trading Jalen Ramsey, and I think that a trade there will get done... Jalen Ramsey will get traded."
He also discusses his recent experience covering a golf event, highlighting the challenges and excitement of reporting in a new arena.
Adam Schefter [38:19]: "Honestly, one of the thrills of a lifetime. It was incredible to be alongside Mark Dameron right there."
Mark Kriegel, a renowned boxing writer and NY Times best-selling author, discusses his latest book on Mike Tyson, offering deep insights into Tyson's life and the transformations that have shaped his public persona.
Mark Kriegel [103:12]: "When you have bad guys and they have that wink, they get over, you know, exponentially. People become absolutely fascinated by him."
He also shares his thoughts on the resurgence of boxing, particularly the upcoming Canelo Alvarez vs. Terence Crawford fight, emphasizing its significance for the sport's future.
Mark Kriegel [113:45]: "It's a great, great fight because on paper, I mean, Crawford's older, he's smaller, and he's technically, in economic terms, he's the B side. So everything in boxing history says Crawford should lose. I don't think that's going to happen."
AJ Hawk contributes to the conversation with his perspective on the Pacers' performance, the potential for Indianapolis as an expansion city for the NHL, and discusses his experiences with the podcast.
AJ Hawk [85:38]: "It's a team that could potentially win immediately. Absolutely no doubt."
The panel briefly touches on the College World Series, notably highlighting Coastal Carolina and LSU's performances and the excitement surrounding the best-of-three series in Omaha.
Pat McAfee [30:23]: "Coastal Carolina, LSU. Best of three series. Good luck."
Discussions include the escalating rivalry between the Dodgers and Padres, focusing on Fernando Tatis Jr. being hit multiple times by Dodgers pitchers, leading to bench-clearing situations.
Boston Connor [32:01]: "Fernando Tatis Jr., who is arguably the star of the Padres, has been hit three times by the Dodgers in 10 days."
Adam Schefter shares his recent experience covering a golf event, praising golfers like Rory McIlroy and Keegan Bradley, and discusses the upcoming World Golf Championships.
Adam Schefter [38:19]: "They were gracious, they were great to watch, they were great to follow. I thanked them for allowing me to trail in the footsteps of their greatness."
The hosts engage with listener questions, addressing topics such as the viability of Indianapolis as an NHL expansion city and the potential for T.J. McConnell to win the Finals MVP.
Listener Question [97:00]: "If the NFL ever expands, our NHL ever expands more, would Indy be a viable expansion spot?"
Pat McAfee [85:38]: "I think Indianapolis would be a great hockey home. We've had teams like the Indianapolis Racers and the Indianapolis Ice have had their moments."
Additionally, questions about T.J. McConnell's MVP chances are discussed, with the panel expressing optimism about his potential impact.
AJ Hawk [87:59]: "I put in a TJ ticket this morning for plus 11,000, which would mean if you put in $25 to win $2,775."
As the episode wraps up, Pat McAfee and his guests reiterate their excitement for Game 7 of the NBA Finals, congratulate the Indiana Pacers on their remarkable postseason run, and express anticipation for witnessing history in the making.
Pat McAfee [93:16]: "It all comes down to this. You got it?"
Mark Kriegel [124:04]: "It's going into Oklahoma City at 8 o'clock on Sunday on ABC, something that's talked about forever."
The panel also touches on their favorite moments of the week, ranging from thrilling sports achievements to humorous anecdotes from their own experiences.
Pat McAfee and his guests provided a thorough and passionate analysis of the Indiana Pacers’ journey to Game 7, enriched with expert opinions and personal reflections. The episode not only celebrates the Pacers’ underdog success but also offers a broader perspective on current sports narratives, making it a must-listen for sports enthusiasts eager to stay ahead of the game.
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