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Pat McAfee
Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this overreaction. Monday, July 21, 2025. This program begins right now. Sports are happening all around us and we're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. Obviously, sports had a massive weekend and we'll be chit chatting about it all. Huge contracts handed out in the NFL. Congrats to everybody getting paid. The WNBA All Star Weekend happened here in Indianapolis. They're calling it in Diami. Oh, they're saying it was Miami in Indianapolis. I'll tell you what, I saw a lot of videos. Looks like everybody's having a great time. Looks like everybody's having a blast. Now, there is a big statement coming out of the wnba, obviously with them saying, pay us what you owe us shirts. There's different takes on all different sides. We sent an invite to Kathy Engelbert, the commissioner of the wnba, to come on. On this particular day, Obviously schedule is crazy. Look for us to chit chat with her here in a while.
AJ Hawk
Hell yeah.
Pat McAfee
Because I am trying to figure it all out. I am trying to figure it all out because whenever we found out what the WNBA pays their players through Caitlin Clark, she. She's making like 70 grand or something. They're charging 70,000 bucks for a suite at some of these games that Caitlin Clark is playing. And now I know the league's been around for 20 years. I know that it's lost money for a very, very long time here. I know they're saying like $40 million in losses potential now, $200 million in revenue is the total. $40 million in losses. Just quick, you know, business Everybody understands is PNL, you know, profits and losses. $200 million in revenue, that's your gross. Then your net revenue is what you. Right. Every business has expenses. Every business has costs. For the WNBA, it's a lot. Obviously you got like 140 players or something like that, depending upon the at the time, how many are hired, how many are employed, the buildings, everything else like that. They are then from that $200 million gross revenue allegedly back here at 40 million in the red as a loss. Allegedly. We don't know what's real and what isn't real. But allegedly everybody has said they'd never turn a profit. So the immediate reaction is whenever you say, pay us what you owe us, it's like, you're not making any money. So what do we owe? You owe us money. This is actually one of those things. But if we're already losing 40 million, could you not just bump them up to at least six figures? Like $70,000 as a paycheck is a very. That's an embarrassment.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Especially for like Caitlin Clark or all these people as a professional sports. Now, with that being said, my dad, his job, if he would have got paid $70,000 a year growing up, would have been incredibly pumped about that. But with how long WNBA has been around to say the $40 million loss is the reason why you can't give them money, that should be pretty easy to make happen is just why. Because if you. If you just add 30 grand to each one of them, get that up over 100,000 bucks, it's another like 4.6 million. So you're for 44.6 million in this way, there has to be 4 million you could find somewhere in here that you can give up to give the players at least a little bit more money. Because I don't think the $70,000 thing is right. But I think that negotiation is going to be tough. I think it's going to be a very tough negotiation. Now it seems like the players, though, all in on their side of it. And then if you listen to everybody else talk, it's like, hey, business. This is how business works. You know, you make money, you get money. That's kind of how it goes. But it's like if you're operating at a $40 million loss of a, there's a lot of things going wrong. We could sneak in an extra 30 grand per player for it to get up to $100,000. Hopefully that'll be a conversation. Hopefully there'll be incentive base for it to go forward. But that was the big story out of the weekend. I don't love that that's a big story out of the weekend because I thought it was a great weekend here in Indianapolis. Yeah. Every city, every place downtown was rented out. There was massive events everywhere. Nike took over an entire basic block block of Indianapolis and built it up. It was awesome. And we had a great weekend here. Even though, you know, collective bargaining is going to be the conversation going forward. And there's no reason for anybody. Hey, anybody. Especially after his stud buds basically brought the whole world together.
AJ Hawk
That's right.
Pat McAfee
Shout out to the stud buds. They were just streaming their entire time here in Indianapolis. You're welcome back anytime you want. They're getting after it, too.
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
I mean, they were having a good. Yeah, Stud buds were a great time.
Boston Conner
Stud buds football.
Pat McAfee
That is. Stud buds football. That is kind of what we realized this weekend. So shout out to the WNBA coming through our city. We hope you enjoyed it. And shout. Sky Scheffler, Scotty Scheffler. As I was, you know, watching what he was doing yesterday, you know, with my daughter, run around so you catch it back. It's great backdrop. Great, great. A little earlier in the day, you know, because they're in Ireland so obviously they're six hours, seven hours ahead. So in the morning you get a chance to watch it as opposed to just the afternoon. So there are some pros and some cons. Long day afterwards with nothing afterwards. Yeah. So that is certainly a give and take that we had there. But watching this dude, it's like, what words do you use to describe them? I guess inevitable. I guess that is a word that you could describe him as going into any tournament. It's just like, Scottie Scheffler's probably going to win this thing. I even put out a tweet that's like every three weeks I get a chance to see his family. Oh, Bennett, this boy's growing so quick.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Last time I seen this guy, you know, was at his previous win was just a few weeks ago and then previous wins before, a couple weeks before that. We're keeping up with him every couple weeks here. It's like I'm following him on Facebook. It's like I, I'm catching up with their family portraits basically as they're going. Beautiful family, happy family, little boy almost getting up that hill to get to the green. Fantastic. But all in all, the only word you can really say about Scottie Scheffler is obviously it's like, hey, he has a four stroke lead. He's going to go right for it. There's going to be a lot of danger in between. It doesn't have to do. It could play safe. Well, he's going to. And he's going to get it to six feet, actually. Obviously that is what Scotty Scheffler is going to do. Hey, for the 10th consecutive time, he's had a lead going into Sunday, four strokes or more. And now is the first hole. Is he going to be nervous? He's going to come out a little gunshot. He's going to go ahead and put it to tap in length on the first hole. Let the rest of the field know, like, hey, this Sunday is exactly how every other day is going to go. Then we go, obviously, what a stroke. Middle of the fairway. What's that mean? Oh, he mashed his drive to a perfect location, hangs that thing up high, Right. What's the topography going to do for you? Oh, it's going to put it right next to the hole. It's like anytime he needs a shot, he shows up and does it. And I hate to, like, kind of harp on this because it does feel like it steals the chatter a little bit. People are like, scotty's not entertaining enough to be a top man, a leading man. Does he have the personality of the guys in the past? You know, Tiger, we had the red shirt on Sunday. We had the fist bump. We had the intensity. We had the entire thing. What do we have with Scotty? What do we have with Scotty? He's just like, every shot's a good one somehow. Yeah, every single shot, somehow is being great. And he's starting to show a little bit more emotion. He's starting to introduce himself to the world a little bit more. He's given some deep perspective takes about life and golf and his deal as a professional athlete and how he views it over the last few days. And I want to let Scotty Scheffler know, we love you, buddy. You're great for sports. And people watching you do your thing at the highest level in the biggest moments, with the most amount of pressure and you not cracking at all, you staring down the biggest moment and the hardest moment. Because in golf, if you're off by that much, I mean, it's over. He could still score a nine on a hole. There is still a chance that that could happen on any swing. He said, can't wait to get to Memphis. Now everybody's even par yet again. Here he is on 12 for birdie. You know, 11 was toug. Everybody's talking about 12. You bounce back, get a birdie here, no problem. How you doing? Keep it moving. Then he wraps it up on 18 with like a three foot tap in. As the guy that he's playing alongside basically said he was a joy to play with. The guy's happy. He doesn't seemingly have any, like, bad traits about him at all. The way he views life is spectacular. Think there's a chance he might start smoking a little weak? Sure. Which I'm obviously. I am a huge proponent of. If not, he's been at the top of the mountain long enough now. He's been able to look around and be like, hey, I. All I wanted to do was get here. This is all I wanted to do. Become the best I could possibly become. Be the best in the world, get to the top of this mountain. He gets to the top of the Mountain. He looks around. This is it. This is what I committed my entire life to. He told me. He gave an answer yesterday. Afterwards, it was like, when I was like four or five years old, I used to wear pants to golf course because I saw professional golfers do it. All I've ever wanted to do is become a professional golfer. My entire life, I've tried to become a professional golfer. And then you get here and you realize that the only good time is right after you win. And then it's like a two to three minute feeling. And then it's like, okay, gotta get home, back to America. Gotta get to my family. Got Memphis on Tuesday. Everybody's even par. This is kind of the same notion that everybody that gets to the top of their respective fields kind of starts to feel. It's either your win is a relief and a loss is total devastation. He's at that point now in a sport that it's not supposed to have that type of expectations, where if he's in a tournament, he's supposed to win, it's. And if he doesn't win it, it's like, what. What happened? And if he does win it, it's like, well, he was supposed to win it. Let's see what happens next. I hope there's a chance for Scotty to continue to be able to play as well as he's playing while viewing the world this way. And I hope he continues to balance life and golf at the same time, because I think he's doing it better than any megastar has ever done it, any phenom has ever done it. And then you listen to Jordan Spieth talk about him afterwards. Didn't. Kind of could have been. Kind of felt like a shot. Kind of felt like a shot about how he does things differently than all of us. And he doesn't do as many corporate events. He's not chasing money. He's not chasing any of this. He just wants to play golf and be with his family. And he's able to turn it off when he goes home. And he said he was going home with him and he wasn't able to. It's like, Scotty Scheffler might be the most relatable, normal, awesome dog in the history of sport. He is a dog. To get this good, you have to have a maniacal work ethic. You have to be dialed in. You have to know every little thing about your swing, the golf ball, the golf course, and everything else that's happening around you to do that. The amount of work you have to put in is absurd. So we'd like to say to Scotty, we appreciate the hell out of your commitment to your sport. We appreciate the hell out of your commitment to you and us. Watching your baby boy grow up into inevitably becoming a champion, which we assume will happen in anything. Doesn't matter what he does. If it is golf or something else, we can't wait to follow along and thank you for what you're doing for sports. Because when your name's on a leaderboard or when you're in a tournament, it is must watch because there's a chance that he goes seven straight holes and hits the best shot you could possibly hit on every single shot. Let's go to one half of the Hammer Cowboys. AP Tone. He's untouchable right now. And the only person that you can compare him to is Tiger Woods. And he and Tiger, polar opposite. Human beings both wear the check mark, though.
Boston Conner
Yeah, they do. The only person, like the current run that he's on is. Is Tiger like. And I hope he continues to do it, you know, like Koepka, Spieth, Rory. They had all. They run similar to this. But the difference between that and Tiger was that Tiger just did it forever. But you talk about being on the leaderboard and being in the tournament. He has put the PGA Tour on his back. He's got 11 straight top tens and 30 of the last 36. That's the last two years he's been top ten. If he's in the 30 of 36, he's been finished in the top ten. So, like, if Scotty's playing in a tournament, he's going to be in the top 10. He's going to be there, and everyone's going to tune in to watch Scotty. He's literally putting tour on his back.
Pat McAfee
And if we know anything from swing to survive.
AJ Hawk
Yep, correct.
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
Gumpy
Full swing.
Boston Conner
Drive to swing.
Pat McAfee
There it is. Full swing on Netflix. Their schedules are horrendous. Oh, yeah. Because he's back in Memphis Tuesday or Wednesday. So he was just obviously in Northern Ireland. Has to fly back to Dallas, Texas. Then he's in Memphis. That's on Tuesday, Wednesday. She has to go in there, get the course, get a practice round. Pro Am, I assume he's not doing those pro am anymore. Who knows? I hope not. I hope he isn't either. Yeah, guys making top 10. He's in every single weekend. He's doing his entire thing. But it's like him being able to balance being a human while they're. Their touring schedule is Insane over there. Not a lot of time down, not a lot of time with family. The fact that he's been able to balance it all and figure it all out. I'm proud of him. I'm pumped for him. Let's go to the talks table at Boss Connor at Ty Schmidt, Con man, your thoughts on old Scotty Scheffler carrying golf right now for all of us. And even I think the live guys and PGA guys, they're all saying that's the motherfucker right there and that's a good place to be if you're him. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
And thank God we got him. I feel like without Scotty, it is a much different tournament. Obviously. Obviously, it's a major. No matter what, you're going to tune in. But I think that was my biggest takeaway, is that when it is a major, you want, you know, 18th hole coming down to the finish, you know, everybody's tied in. You're damn near going to go to a playoff. But when it comes to Scotty, when it is like that and you're just watching Scottie Scheffler golf because that's all it was. You weren't watching for, you know, competition. You weren't watching to see who's going to win. You know Scotty's going to win. You're watching Sunday just to see what he does and he delivers. Like, that's why I think I have grown to love Scotty so much, is because it's not like a walk in the park. You mentioned it. The first hole, he's going. He's basically going for the hole. He's going for a damn albatross and he doesn't need to. I think that's why it is so entertaining and it is great to have a dominant golfer because even when all those guys were going, you know, Brooks was making his run and everything, there wasn't like the clear cut number one. Tony just said it, in the last two years, he's been top 10 in 30 events. Like, he is by far the greatest goal. He's head and shoulders above whoever you want to put at number two. And I think that's why it has been so entertaining to watch some of these matches because, you know, he's just balling out.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I enjoy watching him golf. And what can't be lost in all this debut nine year NFL vet is the amount of work that has to go in to get to this point, you know, because he's just so ho. Humble time, you know, it's just like, I just hit it 350. I just put it to 2ft on a Sunday at the Open, a major that I have never won before. Well, I just made a huge putt. He made. I forget what his putts were. He has the best day he's ever had putting. I think. I think he's figured out the putting because the putting was kind of the question mark here. How good was Scotty's putting? Says Jamie Kennedy. Great account. Pulled up some great stats. He finished a week 59 of 63 putting inside 10ft. Okay, so those are the ones that are. First of all, they piss you off.
Ty Schmidt
The knee knockers.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the knee knockers are the ones that piss you off. But also, if you're able to make those, you can gain a lot of strokes. Scotty Scheffler used to miss every once in a while at this distance, and everybody was like, his only weakness is his putter. His only weakness is putter. It's like the guy's won three majors. I don't know if his putter is that weak. I understand it's not as good as his irons or his driver, but he went to work on his putter. Very clear, very evident.
Darius Butler
Changed his grip. Yeah, changed his grip. And he went to the claw grip. And it's been different since. And you talked about everything, man, how his peers speak about him. I think Deshambo, he spoke about him after. I think they're both like Dallas area kids. He was like, look, I used to play against Scottie all the time. He was never that good. You talked about the work ethic like he was bogey free up until that part put. That was when he showed, like, the biggest, you know, emotion. He had the big fist pump. He had a double bogey a little bit later. But that kind of shows you, even though I'm head and shoulders above the field, I'm going to win this tournament. I care about my next shot, my next stroke. He's just dumb. And it's not like he's perfectly fundamentally sound. He's not like an Adam Scott or like a Rory like, you look at that. Okay, this is the perfect swing. His feet are always different. His finishes with his hands. So a guy like me, who's kind of, you know, fairly new into golf, and watching him do it and watch him doing his way and still be kind of like just himself, it's almost like watching Barry Sanders. Like Barry Sanders, he was dominant. He did freaky on the field every Sunday, but he was just. He wasn't like speed. He wasn't doing all the other things. And obviously this is an individual sport so he can win. Unlike Barry on those old Lions who had to struggle with some tough teams. But it's been special. Special watching Scotty, man, it's unbelievable.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's good comparison there. Barry Sanders. I really. I never thought of that.
Darius Butler
As you're saying, you know Barry.
Pat McAfee
Where's he from? Where's Barry Sanders from?
Darius Butler
Kansas.
Pat McAfee
What? What's that?
AJ Hawk
Whereabouts?
Darius Butler
Wichita. I'm not gonna lie. The first, it's tough.
Pat McAfee
You're really trying to put some sauce on. Yeah, like a little Spanish. The I. The first I. Hard second eye. Pronounce that thing as an E. Accent. Yeah. Well, Cheetah, Kansas is doing best. What? But yeah, obviously, Barry Sanders obviously handed the ball. Ball back to the official after a touchdown. People still are told that to this day, it's like watching Scottie Scheffler. Will he be like this for 20 years? Possibly. And you talked about his swing. Being new to golf. Everything they tell you you're not supposed to do, hey, those feet need to remain the same. Those feet need to stay there. Somehow. Scotty's been able to dance. Obviously not in his irons, but in the driver in the tee box. He does the hokey that some. Right foot in.
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
Left foot in, both feet out.
Ty Schmidt
Bombs jumping.
Pat McAfee
So it's like, obviously you got to find your spot.
Darius Butler
Every time you see that target, boom.
Pat McAfee
The triangle, the little triangle. Hey, this is where you need to aim. It's like they were golfing in Pittsburgh. Third tree over this way. You need to hit it. And then all of a sudden, Scotty's ball is just. And then. Oh, wait, is it going to come back? Of course it is. Like a magnet. Guy's unbelievable. All right, congrats to Scotty. Also congrats to all the NFL teams that are currently showing up at training camp. Tell them we don't have time to break it all down. How many teams are currently already checked into camp?
Boston Conner
So the Chargers and Lions already in camp. They're playing in the hall of Fame game. They've been there. And then today the Chiefs and Cowboys report 22 teams report tomorrow. And then two more report on Wednesday. Steelers being one of those.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so I think it's 26 tomorrow or. Sorry, 20. Yeah, 26 tomorrow. Two today, two yesterday or whatever the lines. Charges reported. And then two on Wednesday. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, live from a golf course, I do believe, believe a Michigan man, Senior NFL insider for espn, Adam Schefter. How's it going over there? You guys hitting it like Schefter.
Adam Schefter
Yeah. Like, I'm Adam Scheffler today and I will say you were talking about Scotty Shuffler before Pat, you know Jimmy Sexton, the superpower agent who represents athlete coaches in college football, correct?
Pat McAfee
Yes, sir. Yeah.
Adam Schefter
Do you know who Jimmy Sexton son Parker's college roommate was?
Pat McAfee
Of course, he's just Scotty. I guess it would be Scotty there.
Adam Schefter
Scotty at Texas. And I like to tease Jimmy all the time that you can represent, you can represent all these college coaches, you can represent some of the biggest players in the NFL. But you had the greatest money making prospect within your grasp as you were grooming through Texas. He was sleeping at your house and you didn't even get him as a client. That's a big whiff.
Pat McAfee
Hey, Jimmy Sexton rarely misses. Jimmy Sexton, an absolute beast, a weapon. The fact that obviously that makes everybody's connect, it feels like. Let's talk about that. Shout out to Jimmy Sexton and his boy and Scott Sheffield. How was that networking event up there? Just billionaires walking around everywhere at that Michigan golf outing that you're currently at.
Adam Schefter
This is a fundraiser for Michigan. And so we've got the Michigan football program today. And it was very nice because it was very opportune. The last time I believe I spoke to you, I was at Oakland playing with Wink Martindale. And when I got home from Oakmont after my flight was canceled and I had to drive seven and a half hours from Pittsburgh to New York, after I got home and went to go play golf that week, I realized that my five wood wasn't in the bag. They left it behind. It turned out it was in Wink's bag. But Wink left his clubs in Baltimore, went to Florida for three weeks. So Wink conveniently returned my five wood to me today. And the five wood has been glorious so far.
Pat McAfee
Pat, that's amazing. I assume you hit that five wood, what, 155? 160. 60?
Adam Schefter
You're giving me credit that I don't deserve? Maybe 125.
Pat McAfee
Happy you're joining us. Thank you for joining us. Tell your partners there, we apologize for the interruption. Let's talk a little NFL news, shall we? T.J. watt gets his deal done. 41 million PER, three years. 123, 108 fully guaranteed. Every insider, every Pittsburgh person was like, this deal is getting done. This is a no brainer. He held out of mandatory minicamp. I thought that was a big deal. I thought to myself, maybe this is uglier than we thought beforehand. How did this deal end up getting done? And three years, 123. Was this the number it was always going to be for tj?
Adam Schefter
Well, I think the issue really when they were sitting down and talking was length. I think the Steelers would have preferred a shorter term deal and TJ Watt would have wanted a longer term deal and they always were going to resign him. As we talked about, the fact of the matter was I think it's very convenient for a lot of these guys to take a stand in that mandatory minicamp going in, whether it was T.J. watt or Trey Hendrickson or Terry McLaurin or some of the players who didn't show up and incurred over $107,000 of fines that is collected and mandated by the collective bargaining agreement. You basically say, okay, I'm going to make $107,000 statement to my team that I'm not happy with where the talks are at. And as you go into the summer, if you're getting the deal that TJ Watt gets done eventually, what is $107,000? Even at the end, the agent can say, hey, I need you to throw in $107,000 more to cover the fines. And it was pretty incredible because T.J. watt has 108 sacks in his career and the guaranteed money was $108 million. And I asked, is that. Was that coincidental? Did we know? They didn't even realize it. So that was by.
Pat McAfee
So you actually presented that piece of information. So this is good. Did you guys do this on purpose? 108 sacks, 108 million guarantees. That's cute.
Adam Schefter
And they didn't realize it until it was raised that that was exactly how it matched up his career sacks and the guaranteed money. But what's $107,000 on 108 million guaranteed? You're not talking about anything. And that's why TGY can make that statement, even though they were just really far apart disagreeing on the length of the contract. So I think he would have want years. I think they would have liked two years. They compromised, met at three, and there's the deal right there for 123 million with 108 guaranteed.
Pat McAfee
That's a sick graphic out of Debone. Payday for TJ was sitting right there. But I do appreciate payday for.
Ty Schmidt
Yikes.
Adam Schefter
You know what's is very interesting about this to me is that to me was probably the last big move in a Steelers offseason that was probably unlike any Steelers off season in recent memory. You Think about all the moves that they made. This is usually a conservative franchise. Laid back, relaxed, not very aggressive. And here's an off season where they go and they trade for DK Metcalf, they sign Aaron Rodgers, they trade for Jalen Ramsey, they trade for John Smith, they trade away Minka Fitzpatrick. And then they signed T.J. watts to the richest deal. That's a non quarterback deal in NFL history. And it gets. I mean that would. I said it before, these are not your father's Steelers and they did not operate that way. And I think they're tired of losing six straight playoff games and are being very aggressive to try to do something to snap that streak and make sure that it doesn't repeat itself.
Pat McAfee
Well, yeah, my father knows that Bill Carr could have built the boys up no matter what the roster was. You know, that is, that is what Bill Carr. But my father and my father's friends would say, yeah, it's about time we try to win some fucking games. Like I think that all of Pittsburgh is pumped about this. But expectations now are only one thing. Here we go, Steelers, here we go. Pittsburgh's gotta go Super Bowl. There they go. Good luck, boys. Congrats to con to getting all those deals done. We are very proud of them. Speak about another deal, especially for a pass rusher. George Carloftis gets his deal done. Congratulations to him. Obviously the Chiefs have been making moves. Quarterback tacklers have gotten paid. Obviously in this world that we're in, disrupting the quarterback is a massive ordeal. A lot of people are saying you need four number one overall type picks on the D line. D line seemingly becoming a place of interest for all teams. Not that it hasn't been in the past, but a lot more money going there. Carlaftis is a beast. Seven sacks in the last two postseasons, which is all seven games most in the NFL. 23 pressures, seven games most in the NFL. 15 quarterbacks hit seven games most in the NFL. So this guy, whenever the lights are the brightest, shows up, he gets paid. Now let's move to another quarterback tackler that is obviously sitting on deck. Go ahead, debut.
Darius Butler
Yeah, we got an elite pass rush out in Dallas. Michael Parsons set to play on his fifth year option. I believe it's around 24,4 million. And with these new deals getting done. Miles Garrett now TJ Getting his done. What's the latest with Micah?
Adam Schefter
The Cowboys are slow playing it again. Surprise, surprise. And they had not been in any rush. Now Mike is going to go to camp and Mike is going to be there. And Mike is going to do what Micah does. But I could tell you that going into camp, the two sides were not very close to a deal. And I don't think the Dallas Cowboys have been overly aggressive about getting a deal done. There have not been very many conversations. And I still think that everybody believes that at some point this deal is going to get done. But if we go back to last offseason as a roadmap, CD Lamb got done, I believe late in August, Dak Prescott got done on the opening day of the NFL season. And we'll see when they can get something done with CD Lamb, with Micah Parsons, who they want to get done, obviously. But it doesn't sound like it's on a fast track right now. Now that can change. And I do think that when they get a deal done with him, it's going to make him the richest defensive player in NFL history. It'll be the richest non quarterback deal in NFL history. But again, not close right now. And we'll see if they could find a way to get there this summer as they have in the past with some of their other premier players.
Pat McAfee
Mula gets a 1000%. Waiting on TJ, no questions asked. Waiting on TJ, wait on TJ.
Adam Schefter
Yeah, but that's fine. But. But the Cowboys have not exactly been pushing the envelope either, Pat.
Pat McAfee
We'll see.
Adam Schefter
Been very slow about this.
Pat McAfee
I. I respect Jerry Jones and his business acumen. I do. Personally, I love it. Ever since I watched him on that Joe Buck interview show where he said. He said something along the lines of, there's people that are 230 yards out from the green, a par 5. It's going to be their second shot and there's a little bit of water and they lay it up and then they try to get a bird. He said, I'm standing over that ball and I'm going for the green every fucking time. And then he talked about how he went all in for the Dallas Cowboys and he talked about how he always goes all in for all of his businesses. And then you watch him lead the most valuable franchise in the world. Basically you think to yourself, wow, this guy, great businessman. Then you watched the way some of his contracts get handled. It's like, Jer, if you were to get these done a little bit earlier, this wouldn't be as big. CD obviously massive. Dak Prescott, he was like two years late on that deal for it to be as big as it was. He always gets it done, always takes care of his guys, but it always comes at some sort of significant Cost. Which led to one of my favorite quotes I've ever heard, which he said, anything I've ever loved or has become very good for me, people have told me I've overpaid for. It's like got an excuse for it. I love it. But we all just know Micah's deal is going to get done. Even if he gets hurt, even if he doesn't play well, we all assume the deal is going to get done. And now it's just like when, I guess when maybe it's after a Cowboys loss happens. Cowboys loss happens. Like week six. What happens?
Darius Butler
Boom.
Pat McAfee
Congratulations. Michael Parson just signed for $42 million a year on a four year deal. It's like we all know it's going to happen, Jer. We all know it's going to happen. Might as well just get it done.
Ty Schmidt
Like a Chris Jones situation with the Chiefs where they open up week one against suite. He's up in the suite. Chiefs end up losing of the lines. David Montgomery runs all over him. And then what next the week after, two weeks after that, Chris Jones gets paid $90 million.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's going to happen and the market's been set. Miles, T.J. mike is going to expect the same exact thing. Mulligata is going to do it. Okay, we know we're taking up your time. Let's continue to roll around the NFL. Quickly, Tone has a question. Speaking of the Lions.
Boston Conner
Yeah, Shefty, it feels like, you know, new year, same situation potentially for the Lions. Levi Ozerique comes, shows up for camp and then, you know, had they we get reported that he's out for the season with an acl. Dan Campbell actually had this to say.
Pat McAfee
All right, let me start with Levi. Levi is out for the year. All right. Levi's surgery was, you know, it was, it was significant, but it needed to be done, you know, out of his control and it needed to be done and so he will miss the season.
Boston Conner
So Shefty, we were talking about like the wording there from the MCDC was like a little weird. Did he show up with an ACL injury? Did it happen in the first day of practice? What happened there for the Lions?
Adam Schefter
I, I, I, look, he's missed parts of the last three seasons with injuries. He had the injury last year and from the sounds of that, without knowing it sounds like they went in there and the damage was greater than they anticipated and he's going to miss extensive time. I don't know whether there was more damage than just the ACL or what the situation was but obviously it was a significant injury that's not going to allow him to play the season. It's the third straight year that he's missing time. You just hate to hear it. You could see how emotional Dan Campbell was about that. And he's been a great player when he could stay healthy. And that's what's frustrating and disappointing because you want somebody like that out there. And now they have another setback. I don't know whether he aggravated it or just so extensive the first time he did it that when they did the surgery, it was more than they thought.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so he said it was out of his control. Was there a previous surgery that was maybe not completed? Why would the out of his control line happen? I don't. I don't.
Adam Schefter
Well, I think sometimes I'm guessing I'd have to make another call, but I think they go in there and sometimes the damage is just greater than you'd ever imagine. It's more significant. And that looks like it was the case here. But I can't answer that definitively because I do not know that.
Pat McAfee
Okay, well, we would like to let old Cuz. No. Godspeed, brother. Sorry this happened. And for the Lions, that's only one thing that's kind of happening. Go ahead, Tom.
Boston Conner
Yeah, we have a list of things for the Lions here. Obviously, Aylin McNeil is out until November with an ACL injury from last year. Aiden Hutchins returning back from his leg surgery. Malcolm Rodriguez tore his ACL on Thanksgiving. Frank Ragnow retired. Zeitler goes in free agency and then both coordinators are gone. It's a list of things alliance has worked.
Pat McAfee
You're up there at that Michigan alum golf outing side.
Adam Schefter
Aside from both the coordinators, they lost eight assistant coaches in all eight. So that is the coaching staff that got raided.
Pat McAfee
We're not going to panic. Okay. We still have mcdc and Jared golf. You're up there at that Michigan golf outing. Probably a lot of Lions fans around there. How's the temperature on the Lions this year? The NFC north has not gotten worse.
AJ Hawk
No, it certainly hasn't.
Adam Schefter
No, it's. It could be as tough a division as there isn't them football. It's going to be loaded. Every team is going to be tough. I still think the Lions have a really good team. There are a lot of people believe that they're just going to continue on. Johnny Morton's going to take over on the offensive side and do great things. Calvin Shepard on the defense side can do great things. But there's no, there. There's no way that you could lose that amount of coaching brain power and think it's not going to impact you.
Pat McAfee
Agree. Plus, with all those players that are already injured last year, that was kind of their problem. But. But I have faith in mcdc to get. And I have faith in Shep.
Darius Butler
Hell, yeah. I mean, look what the Eagle Eagles did it.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It took them a year. Coordinators every year took them a little bit, and they have a top 10 quarterback just like Detroit does. H. We're not going to get into that.
Gumpy
Number one.
Pat McAfee
Not going to get into that. I enjoy. I enjoy people going crazy. Hey, before we ask you another question, are you going to gol. What's going. Are you guys in the middle of your round or what's going on?
Adam Schefter
They just played a poll without me because it's a best ball. Did we birdie that or was.
Jamie Kennedy
Pardon it.
Adam Schefter
Yeah, yeah. They just informed me that we par because I didn't get the puck.
Pat McAfee
Come on. Okay. So is Eisenberg a player or no?
Adam Schefter
Yeah, he's good. But he's been gone for three weeks. He's been, you know, touring the world. My friend Steven Eisenberg has. And so he's blaming it on being, you know, out of the country. Comes back, he shot an 81 at Oakmont. 41 on the front nine.
Boston Conner
41.
Adam Schefter
And he comes. He hasn't hit a shot yet today.
Pat McAfee
Was he at Bezos's wedding? Was he over there at Bezos's wedding?
Adam Schefter
Were you at Jeff Bezos's wedding? Is that where you were?
Pat McAfee
No, no. Eisenberg could be, though. We just looked him up. He's the president of Ken Wall Steel Corp up there in Dearborn. Michelle. Okay. Hey, guys, just stick when he wants to be. Stick when he wants to be. Hey, stay away from concerts just in general, pal. All right?
Adam Schefter
Hey, Pat. I'll also say this, being that we started on agent work and we're gonna end on agent work here. All I know is that I flew in, I was supposed to do a post round, round table with Desmond Howard and Kirk Herb street talking all about Michigan football. Because Herbie's son goes to Michigan. Herbie's come over to the right side. It's great to see he's now a Michigan fan. We love to see him being part of the Mission family. I was going to do this thing. I showed up today because I was told, Desmond Howard's here. Kirk, Herb Street's here, and I'm going to be doing this discussion with them. The three of us. I get here and Kirk Herb street is not here. Oh, he's shooting a dog food commercial. Now last I checked, we've got four dogs. I think Herbie's got one or two. I got more dogs. So whoever is representing me is doing a poor job that I'm not included in a dog food commercial with Kirk Herb street and a cabin that I came to where he was supposed to be here that he blew me off. Yeah, that's not right.
Pat McAfee
Who would have thought? Cooning. Yeah, come on buddy. Conan, get to the bottom of some pet food for this guy. He's got four dogs. Kirk has four or five dogs as well. Yeah, Kirk has a lot of that. He has a fleet. He is a fleet fleet of these.
Darius Butler
They're all the famous dog in the country.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, and Peter is also one of them. Maybe you need to do a little Peter izing of one of your dogs. Cuz Peter dog.
Adam Schefter
I gotta start taking my dogs to Sunday countdown. The oldest one is 19 and is blind and she can't hear and goes to the bathroom everywhere.
Ty Schmidt
So I don't mind.
Adam Schefter
Yeah, I don't think Greeny will mind. When Ella will go to the bathroom all over the studio on Sunday.
Pat McAfee
I don't think so. Yeah, it's not going to be on his red bottoms. Hey, real quick, didn't Pft had his dog breaking news, right? Yeah, Pft had his dog rest in peace, I think breaking news for a while. Leroy. Yeah, Leroy. I think Leroy rest in peace. I believe you.
Adam Schefter
Leroy was a real newshound.
Pat McAfee
Yes, he was. I agree. That is the case. You should think about maybe one of your dogs becoming an insider. Then you get to Pete because Peter's part of game day. Yeah, Peter is a part of college game day formally. He's just wherever he, he's, he's a part of. You need your dog to start breaking some news, then you. Now we start getting the pet food. The dog food.
Ty Schmidt
Maybe not Ella though.
Pat McAfee
Maybe the fresh pets. Yeah, the 19 year old's gonna be a tough sell. But hey, maybe, maybe that's a good play in the background there.
Adam Schefter
Brady and Apple. Apple, they're about five years old. They're prime for this. Like if Herbie wants to share the spotlight and I have an agent that does it, you know, his job, worth his salt, you know, and he gets one of these dog food deals.
Pat McAfee
That'd be great. All right, enjoy yourself out there. I think there's a lot of people in that course who probably get you a deal. Yeah, you're the man, ladies and gentlemen, I'm Chef.
Ty Schmidt
Blind and. Dude, dude, what did I do?
Pat McAfee
Sitting here and all of a sudden I need to get. What do you want me. Kibbles and Bits.
Boston Conner
Dude, I think Herbie might be lying too.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think they already shot the commercial. But there could be another commercial.
Boston Conner
Oh, there could be.
Pat McAfee
There was. There was a time last year, middle of college game, college football season, where it was Friday night. Maybe Herbie was in town because his boy was playing high school football.
Boston Conner
Sure.
Pat McAfee
He has since committed Michigan on scholarship. Congrats to Chase. And that is an interesting dynamic. Herbie's dad, I think, coach at Ohio State. He obviously was Ohio State. Quarterback, captain. He's on that college game, they said Ohio, you know. And he starts saying some stuff, obviously about Ohio and everybody. Herbie's Herbie, Ohio. People get mad at him. Then all of a sudden, his boy does not get offered a scholarship from Ohio State.
AJ Hawk
No.
Pat McAfee
Does get offered scholarship to Michigan. His boy's worked his ass off, played football his entire life trying to create his own path. I got a scholarship offer to Michigan. Go blue.
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Hail the Victors, baby.
Darius Butler
Be a fool not to take.
Pat McAfee
And then all of a sudden, Kirk there got all of Ohio going. You told him to go there. We know you did. And Kirk's like, no, I actually love Ohio State. Kurt gets like emotional talking about Ohio State and what it means. His dad, I think his father was coach there a long time. So Chase going to Michigan, first of all, Chase, we love Chase. A lot of moxy on Chase.
Ty Schmidt
Little too much and I easy on the love. Okay. I like.
Pat McAfee
I love Chase.
Ty Schmidt
I like the kid kinda. What I hear what you're saying.
Pat McAfee
I love Chase. If we're to go around the room.
AJ Hawk
He'S a good boy, I think Chase.
Pat McAfee
Ty, love and tone. Good boy.
Darius Butler
Good boy.
Pat McAfee
He's a sweet boy.
Jamie Kennedy
Love is a strong word, you know.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Gumpy also has his dots about love. He likes. I don't really know him that well. Okay. Nick's never been around. I will say Chase has some takes. Every once in a while, Chase will fire off some takes. He's a young kid. He's a high schooler. College, obviously, but he's lived a life.
Ty Schmidt
You want to know why Herbie's not up there? Because he's going to be chirp, chirping for balls. State in a year. Okay. I love Herbie. I. I do. It's real tough coming in as a quarterback when you're coming in with the number one recruit overall in the Entire.
Pat McAfee
What do you think? What do you think this is? What do you think? Chase doesn't understand the situation he's walking into.
Ty Schmidt
I know he understands the situation, and it is sweet. Hey, I'm going to Michigan. It's sweet. You know, you don't have to deal with, you know, a year into college.
Pat McAfee
Hey, I'm.
Ty Schmidt
I'm transferring to Miami. Of Ohio, actually. Let's go, Mac.
Pat McAfee
Chase might end up being a West Virginia boy. He can run, bigo.
Ty Schmidt
That's what I'm saying.
Pat McAfee
Chase can run.
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
Pat McAfee
I'm not saying he's going to leave. I'm. You need to watch.
Ty Schmidt
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Pat McAfee
You're starting to dance too much. Ohio.
Ty Schmidt
The Ohio Bobcats.
Pat McAfee
A little bit too much, buddy. Okay? We're Big 12.
Ty Schmidt
Dancing too much. You know who's dancing too much? Oh, shifter. Cuz if I was 19 years old and blind and deaf, I'd want to get shot in the head so bad.
Pat McAfee
You talk about that dog. 19 years old is a long time. So mad. Why, if I'm there, I got my Valerie. Yeah, our dog, Pitbull Sharpe. She's like 12 years old right now. Okay, 12, 13 years old. That.
Ty Schmidt
That makes sense.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but she's obviously an older dog and, like, just hanging out with her.
Boston Conner
I'm talking about quality of life those last five years.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's still sweet, though. She has, like, a bed basically in every room. You know, like, it's a really cool thing. When he said 19, I thought to myself, seven more years of Valerie would be wild if that was to happen, especially at this case. But, man, those dogs. Valeriel I hung out with Val Saturday a little bit late with her, and I gave her a speech, basically. I was like, hey, you've been a good dog. Just want to let you know that whenever you need to go, you go. You have a good one. Well, could you imagine doing that for seven years? 19.
Ty Schmidt
No.
AJ Hawk
Oh, he's. He's talked about that dog, like he legitimately has to pick it up and take it outside every single time it has to go to the bathroom.
Ty Schmidt
Pooping dust.
Boston Conner
That's what I'm saying.
Ty Schmidt
That's what they're saying.
Pat McAfee
Pooping. Probably not happening, if I had to guess. Poop. Poop is the toughest thing.
Ty Schmidt
Just puke and poop.
Pat McAfee
It's a lot of energy to poop. I got. Jeez. All right, let's. Von Miller has signed with the Washington Commanders, also the Washington Whatevers. First of all, we love Von Miller. We are Von Miller fans. There was a time where Von Miller was coming on a show once a week. Yep. Remember that. It was great chit chatting with him. He signed an exclusive deal with the place. Couldn't join us anymore, which is a bummer. But we still continue to follow along. Future hall of Famer, probably future general manager in the NFL. He is now signed with the Washington Commanders. Washington Commander is obviously in the middle of trying to get a new stadium built in Washington D.C. that's potentially going to be put on hold. And we learned that from a truth social post from the President of the United States who said they need to change their name back immediately. And I'll tell you what, I don't know if the President has read the tea leaves on the Internet or has talked to the Washington fan base. I will say this from a personal opinion and my own personal research. The name commanders at the beginning didn't love it. Who are we? The Commanders. Tough name. Sure. Couple years later here now after them having some success. Commander's not a terrible name. Not a. Not a. Not a horrendous Washington football team. Didn't think it was a horrendous thing. I think if you win, anybody will like any name name. What I will say though, for the Washington football fans, they played here away game a couple years ago. They took over a lot of Luke Stadium. Okay. They got a big fan base.
Ty Schmidt
Just wild.
Pat McAfee
I didn't see a single Washington commander's piece of merch. What did you see anybody?
Ty Schmidt
Football team?
Pat McAfee
No, I didn't see that either. There's no WFTs or WTFs. It was all from the, the days.
Ty Schmidt
When Alex Smith was there.
Boston Conner
Joe Theisman.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Doug Williams. Doug Williams. Every piece of merch, shirt, hat. I mean, I think I saw towels, blankets, and there was like 35,000 scary. Terry went off that and they're insane. Deep touchdown to win in the fourth quarter. We should have beat him. It was an awesome environment. It was electrifying. But there was Washington fans everywhere. All of them had Redskins merch on all. All of them. Every single person that was there. Now is that because they are not from there. So they've been generational fans. Like my dad was a fan. My, my father's father, my mother's mother was a fan of the team. And this is the only merch that they had. They had not bought the new stuff yet or whatever the case is. I think President Trump knew that there is a contingency of people that are very much on board with getting back to the Redskins day. With that being said, I think it's going to take a lot. I think it's going to take a lot for that to happen. Is the threat of a stadium being stopped from being built enough to change it back? Yep, that's true. I think the new ownership group certainly has something to figure out.
AJ Hawk
That's a bold play.
Pat McAfee
Now, obviously there is a former, I believe before he was president, Donald Trump tweet about this, saying as president, was president, talking about the name of a football team.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. More important things.
Darius Butler
There are some important, important things out there.
Pat McAfee
Huh? Situations are situational, obviously, and you can kind of do this whole number. But I think what people need to realize, especially the people that are very against whatever he says, and if he says something this time that you're against, it's like there is a contingency. People on the other side that are very loyal and pumped behind that. And now we find ourselves yet again at a beautiful crossroads of Boom. I'm right. No, I'm right. Until nothing happens. All I know is they need a new stadium bad. The poop pipes were bursting so bad all over the place. People are damn near dying with rails cracking from fans doing this. People are having a drink of beer. All of a sudden, what's in their beer? Poop and water and urine. What's that from the pipe right above me burst. Boom. John took a dump two seconds ago. Now it's in my beer. Because this stadium stinks. Things cracking, people potentially falling. This is a massive organization. This is the biggest league on earth. This is the most profitable league on earth. They have been an embarrassment. That stadium has been an embarrassment to the league. We used to see it and think to ourselves, is that a MLS stadium? That can't be an NFL stadium. That's gotta be old NFL stadium. They got a new NFL stadium. They moved out of that stadium. Now the XFL's playing there. Is that where the DC defenders are. Defenders are playing or. No, that's where the Washington NFL team is still playing at. It's like, that's an embarrassment. Can't have that. So can't have the stadium hold up happen for the. For the good of the league, for the good of the game. But boy, feels like if actual politics are getting involved and the president's involved and there's a lot of. On both sides. I think it's a big classic. Washington D.C. i don't think anything's happening.
Boston Conner
Feels pretty simple to me.
Pat McAfee
Feels like we're playing that stadium for the next 20 years.
Boston Conner
I don't know, you want to want it. You want a new stadium, go back to one of the most recognized names in NFL history.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Clearly, that is how one side definitely feels.
Ty Schmidt
They can't play in that state, like, for the. And you just said it. It is for the next 20 years. And we're all going to watch because Jaden Daniels is there. Like, this is now becoming a premier place. I mean, they have Debo Samuel and Terry McLaren. Like, they have notable. Notable names. And now Jaden Daniels is, what, 24. So for the next 15 years, this team's going to be on prime time and competing for Super Bowls. They gotta get the stadium done.
Pat McAfee
I gotta get that guy's deal done. First of all, how about. How about the ownership being like, terry, we want to get your deal done? Do you know what we're dealing with?
Ty Schmidt
You see this post?
Pat McAfee
You on truth. You on Truth Social?
Ty Schmidt
You know who this is?
Pat McAfee
Okay, that's president.
Boston Conner
You're not on it.
Pat McAfee
Okay. We're talking multiple billionaire. Terry, we're trying. Will you just tell them we can't, please. We're trying to get this whole thing done. That's the president. Yeah. Can he. Can he veto us getting a stadium?
AJ Hawk
Yeah, sure can.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he certainly can. He certainly can make it a lot harder. Then there'll be judges and this and then some regional judge will bump up. Sure. I've been learning a lot about all this. Way too much. My algo, especially now, because it actually is football related.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
So my algo is like. I don't know if you've heard, but the time has come. Politics and sports. Boom. Here's it right down your feed. Here's everybody that's pissed off about it. Here's everybody that's pumped about it. Wow. You'll be surprised to hear that these people actually want this. It's like, who are that? Well, that's actually a Native American society of blah, blah, blah. They are against. No, they're for it. Well, I just read that this Native American society.
AJ Hawk
Well, two separate entities.
Pat McAfee
Which side different? How they ever get anything done?
Darius Butler
That's exactly why they won't go back.
Pat McAfee
That's what I'm saying.
Darius Butler
Everybody from. From the top down, they've been doing everything right, you know, and they. The stadium will get done. I think this is just, you know, just. Yeah. Yapping on social media. I am concerned about what's going on with the nil, potentially limiting what they can make. But wherever they play, whatever the team name is, which I think it will be commanders, that guy, those Highlights that you've been running. That's the guy they need to keep in the building. Because I think when he was drafted, he was. It was still the Redskins and he's been dominant. He's been productive year in and year out, regardless of who's that quarterback con man just called it. Jaden Daniels being there seems to be the face of the franchise. Should be a guy for the next decade at least. You want to get your guy who's been a pillar in the organization in there and standing there comfortable. All these wide receivers getting paid. All these people are getting paid. He should be the first guy on the list to get taken care of before camp. They report tomorrow as well, so hopefully they can get whenever they report.
Pat McAfee
Let's go back to the NIL thing because that was a big storyline. I saw a bunch of headlines. I didn't see what was actually said. Same, because this is once again politics meeting sports, which is great. Which is absolutely great.
Boston Conner
People love that.
Pat McAfee
We love everything about that. The NIL Commission committee thing. We've talked about how that's impossible. Impossible. That'll be an impossible feat because if somebody presents a deal, an advertising deal from a company, how is a group of people in America in a capitalist world that we live in, hopefully forever. Jesus, that's a wild thing to think about. But if you're able to make money from a company, how is a group of people allowed to say that it's a worthy deal or not? Like in America, an adult who's allowed to get a deal done gets presented an opportunity from a company to advertise for them and it's worth 2 million bucks, then a committee is supposed to say whether or not it meets the window or the criteria of what a deal looks like. Who says what a deal looks like? This kid just negotiated a better deal than anybody in history. If it's only two posts, if it's a million dollars a post, then this person maybe should be representing the United States government, negotiations with other countries. If that's the case. How can you ever turn any of those down? Like, what's the purpose of a committee? I don't know how you could say no to anything. I think there's just lawsuits on top of lawsuits. So unless there is some form of. Hey, you're allowed to rule that there is a window in these things, which I guess could limit some. But they. They're. That committee is a waste of time, I think, personally.
Darius Butler
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Unless there's some sort of. I. I don't. I don't know how you. I'm very worried about how they stop all that. And by very worried, I mean, like, the game's going to be great, the players are going to get paid grotesquely. Only some schools are really going to be able to do it. Everybody else is going to have to catch up. And it's like, has that always been happening just at a lower level? Kind of. So I'm not worried about the game itself. And just like Sankey said, it's strained, it's not ruined. But it's like that committee thing. I don't see the purpose. I don't know how that is going to do anything. I don't know how. Because how you turn down any deal. If I was to go to a committee of agents with the deal that I negotiated with ESPN for the licensing fee, and these people who I could run circles around at the negotiating table tell me that that's not. That's not allowed deal, I'd be very pissed off. Yeah, I would be very pissed off. Just because you couldn't get this deal doesn't mean that somebody couldn't get this deal. And by somebody, I got this deal done and this is how this goes. Here are the reasons why I got this deal. And oh, yeah, we'll be profitable for the company very quickly, which is exactly what happened. So I don't know how that committee. I don't know, man. So I think there has to be some sort of something.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Like there has to be some sort of something if they're even going to have that committee and if they're trying to make it fair. I don't know how you.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
AJ Hawk
Needed to.
Pat McAfee
I don't. I don't know how you. In my head, I have a small brain. There's people a lot smarter than me, obviously. But I feel like we've dealt with all the things that are currently being dealt with in this world, whether it's advertising, digital deals, linear stuff, social stuff, all the brands, basically, that they're working with, where. That we've kind of worked with and know all the people. So it's like, I. I don't know how you. I don't know how you get on track. I. I genuinely don't. So if they're trying to make some sort of, you know, something. I guess you could word that as limiting. Nil. But I guess until we see it, we have no idea.
Ty Schmidt
Well, and is that like a. The Ryan Williams situation? Like, Ryan Williams just signed a deal with Nike.
Pat McAfee
Second player ever.
Ty Schmidt
Second player ever after Shador. Is it a Situation where, you know, Alabama is an Under Armour school. So if Nike were to offer Ryan Williams, like is that the checks and balances type of situation where Ryan Williams could have an offer but because his school is an Under Armour place.
Pat McAfee
Just real quick, whatever the school is, what you're going to be wearing on that field.
Darius Butler
Yeah, yeah, we had a situation like that because kids are getting deals in high school now like these apparel deals and obviously you go to a university and they have these huge, huge contracts, apparel contracts with said company. So off the field though they'll still be able to do appearance, say, you know, you're an Adidas guy, you go to a Nike school, you'll still be able to do Adidas signings, do Adidas commercials and things like that. But just like you said, like it's no going back. Like you think about the young lady in Texas Tech who just kind of reset the market. You assume Arch Manning probably resets the market. The young kid we just saw in the flag football game who has offers from the entire country making one handed catches. You assume when that guy goes to college these guys are going to reset the mark so you can't set them back and say oh, that's not a fair market deal.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Darius Butler
Who said yeah, it's going to.
Pat McAfee
Is TJ walking 41 million a year a fair market deal? I guess because Miles Garrett got that. Well before Miles got it, who got nobody. So it's like here's the Based on recent guidance issued by the College Sports Commission and stipulations within the House settlement, the Nil GO clearing house overseen by the CSE is rejecting or expected to reject the following types of deals. Deals lacking a valid business purpose. This refers to deals where the entity providing the compensation doesn't offer goods or services General public for profit to post on social. That's a business purpose. Deals solely designed to funnel money to athletes for school. For example, a collective holding an event or selling merchandise with the primary purpose of raising funds to pay athletes rather than offering goods or services to the public will be rejected. So funds have to go to them. See, can we raise funds? That doesn't make any sense. Deals that are not within a fair market range of compensation. Who says what's fair market exactly?
Ty Schmidt
Who be the two posting?
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like who says that? That? I don't know, I just, I feel like they're going to have a lot of trouble unless there is some sort of power given to them, which is what they would have to get. I Think. Which goes back to what the headline.
AJ Hawk
Could be, but based on this too, like this committee, wasn't the whole point, like, hey, we need consistency because that's, that's what we're lacking here is there's just no consistency. And it seems like with this type of thing, it's the kind of thing where the rules still might change year after year. Because like, if you're going to do that, the fair market range of compensation, they need to go through every single player in the NCAA and figure out what that is.
Pat McAfee
Not only ncaa, because some of these guys are entertainers, they stream as well. They go through streaming. I mean, social. It's like, I don't know how you in these suits are going to be able to figure it out and how much time to go through all that.
AJ Hawk
That take years and years to do that.
Pat McAfee
And who's the regulator on what the market is. Like, who's the one that regulates what a good fair deal is?
Ty Schmidt
NCAA football.
AJ Hawk
He's only 75. We can't be giving this guy.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you're gonna go off ratings on Duke.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Is that right? I don't, I don't know. I don't know. They got a lot to work on on this. I don't. This feels like a lot of lawsuits. Just. Yeah, so many. Just. I'm feel I'm, I'm viewing me as an 18 year old and once again, I pitched the NFL in a. I think it was NFLPA meeting, or maybe it was a team meeting. I forget what it was. No, it might have been an NFL meeting. I was like, how come the Colts are allowed to have scratch offs here in town? I'm not allowed to have scratch off. How come I'm not allowed to have the McAfee millions scratch off here with the state lottery or whatever. You're not allowed to do it. It's gambling. I'm like, you guys got to scratch off. How come I'm all I get scratch off and then. Next question. I have my own merch deal. I don't want the NFLPA to handle my merch deal. Well, the NFLPA has everybody's merch deal. Well, I'm not joining the nflpa. Do they have my merch deal still? Well, I guess technically not, but they already have it. It's like, nope, I'm not signing up for the NFLPA then. So I'm just thinking, as somebody who has always been a little bit of a fucking prick whenever it comes to getting money like that is, you know, come from not a lot not telling a story that not a lot of people have. But I've been getting to the money since, like, fifth grade selling cigarettes at 50 cents a pop. Great business. Great ROI. Now, granted, whenever they catch you with a curtain in fifth grade in your backpack, they're looking for you to get kicked out of that school forever. Sure. And Sally McAfee had heard it. You had to help me. So it's like carton. Carton. Yeah. I was moving, dude. I was selling high school off camera.
Darius Butler
I need to know.
Pat McAfee
The plug. I was good. The plug. Hindsight. Terrible. Human.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Might be nine. Pour them. There's no way.
AJ Hawk
Well, he was making sure you weren't.
Pat McAfee
Smoking them, of course. Well, you never get half your own supply. Obviously understood that. But I was around a lot of people that smoke cigs, and I just figured, like, okay, if you guys are gonna smoke cigs, I might as well at least be able to get a grapefruit at extras here. Yeah. A grape juice at extras. Yeah. First couple were stolen from friend's mom's ashtray. Okay, let me go ahead and pluck that. She had massive lipstick, so I had to cut off the tip. So it was a shorter filter.
Ty Schmidt
Love it.
Pat McAfee
So obviously sold it that way. Shorter filter, shorter stem. And then once I sold it quicker, I sold it. Yeah. I sold it for, I think it was like a half sig for, like, 50 cents or something like that. And immediately it was like, I got to get more cigarettes. So I started finding ashtrays, and then I found a guy, a kid, I guess he's 18 years old, to start supplying me. Yeah, I was moving. I was telling the high schoolers it was not good. I mean, obviously, terrible thing. But they were going to smoke cigs regardless. I might as well at least get my grape juice.
Boston Conner
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
And then whenever they caught me, it was hell. I mean, it was. I saw the girl get caught. I remember her name. She was at recess, smoking on school property. One of the main rules. Don't do that. Teacher comes around the corner.
Boston Conner
We have a system.
Pat McAfee
We had a system. At least can we obey the rules a little bit? We're not smoking on the elementary school property. Street's gonna get real hot, flicks that thing up. It lands right. She was next to a dumpster. She flicks it up to. Into the dumpster. Doesn't go into the dumpster, lands right next to her. Then Obviously, I think Mr. Gregory caught her. Mr. Gregory catches her. Shout out, Ms. Gregory. He was a good guy. He was actually a masterpiece. May not get sent like jail, juvie or anything like that. Shout. Miss Gregory. Saw her walk in. I watched her walk in. And I was just like.
Darius Butler
Knew she was snitch.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I just stood there. Pat McAfee, please come down the office. Here we go. That was a. That was tough walk. That was a bad walk. I thought I was over then. I'd been in some. Obviously not a great kid, but that one, I thought it was over sitting this. They took me in the back room. Never been in this room. I was just gonna immediately deny it. And then they brought my back back in.
AJ Hawk
So what do we have here?
Pat McAfee
That feels illegal?
Boston Conner
That feels illegal.
Pat McAfee
Entrapment? A little bit, yeah. I didn't have an attorney.
Ty Schmidt
Doctor.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It was Dr. P. He and I had quite a runner. He became super superintended, this guy. I mean, it was me. And Dr. P did not have a great place. For good reason, I assume. But my mom went in there and said, like, aren't we kind of impressed with the business acumen of this guy? My mom very against me normally. My mom is very much a. We got to keep this guy humble, you know. That was the first time she's ever really gone to bat for me. Thank God. Certainly she spent it like two weeks or whatever catch up on all of it. But I stopped moving cigs that day. And I'll tell you what, I don't think I've had a grape juice thing. They were so good.
Boston Conner
The Welch is stock.
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. That's all I wanted. That's how it started, those little grape juices. Everybody's having these things. They look so good.
Boston Conner
Better than stealing them.
Darius Butler
True.
AJ Hawk
Bingo.
Pat McAfee
I think Sally probably said that at one point to Dr. Piscopia. Your kids selling the juniors in high school right now need to get them out of here. It's like, well, aren't we kind of impressed? He set up a whole elaborate business. I was pretty proud of me. But what I'm saying is, how are they going to turn down my deal? You can't.
AJ Hawk
Can't do it, boss.
Pat McAfee
Unless there's some. Hey, you can't be selling a cigarette for 50 cents. Says this guy's buying it. Supply, demand. I got it. He wants it. That's just kind of what happens.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, they set a max.
Pat McAfee
They would have to. But that's what I'm saying. That would have to come from a. Some sort of law to empower the committee.
AJ Hawk
Right.
Pat McAfee
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Julia's a complete dog.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah. I saw you at the WNBA skills competition with Tyrese and it made me think about how damn, these guys are just the beginning of their rehab and they have so long to go. So, yeah, a little love for Tatum. Yeah, he's still one of the best in the league. People forget about him.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Tatum is an absolute dog. Never gets talked about in that fashion ever. Even though he's already won and everything like that. I think the Olympics, the way he was treated by coaches, Kerr and didn't play much, it certainly added into it all. I hope he keeps all the chips on his shoulder through this Achilles recovery and we can't wait to see him back. Tatum, we're pulling for you, Bob.
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah. Jason Halliburton, we're pulling for you, Bob.
Pat McAfee
Good luck, boys. On that note, Tyrese Halliburton will be joining us tomorrow. What? Hey. Yeah. Live in studio. I think he should have saved it. I don't think we've talked to him since it all happened. I don't think he's talked to really anybody since it's all happened. It's been cool to kind of keep up with with his entire process here. I can't wait for him to chit chat about his mindset and who all he's been talking to and how it's all gone. He's been at every single Indiana Fever event, every single WNBA event. If there's an event that he can get to, that he can kick, push, kick, push, kick, push, kick, push, and coast his way into. He's going. He's looking for. He's not allowed to leave. He's not allowed to leave. So his entire rehab and recovery is all happening here in Indianapolis. Did he have massive plans for the off season? Hopefully after winning a title, after dropping 40 in game seven, after everything like that? Of course, now he's at his house, he's doing recovery. He's at his house, he's doing recovery. And then if there's anything happening, anything at all, he would go to the Fisher Freight games if they were happening. And he could roll into that thing because they see you rolling as he's coming in there. He's just trying to break up the monotony of it all, but he's fully focused, locked in. He's got a little bit of a shaggy beard.
AJ Hawk
Okay, like that. Oh, like that.
Boston Conner
Why did you make that?
Ty Schmidt
How bad is his beard?
Boston Conner
So he's really becoming part of that.
Ty Schmidt
How bad is this beard?
Boston Conner
Is he starting to look like the memes?
Pat McAfee
I don't know. I don't know. He is starting to look. Which was my exact first thing I said.
Darius Butler
What me?
Pat McAfee
First thing, you know. That's nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler, who lives online. He knows what I have. It had to been during the Nick series. There was a lot of the memes. But anyways, yes, he does kind of look like that, but it feels like his spirits are high, but he understands that the process sucks. You know, like an Achilles recovery sucks. You got to work on all the little muscles in your feet and your calves. You got to build back everything. And then whenever you think you're back, you're probably still six months away from being back. It's a. It's an entire mental game as much as it is physical. Can't wait to catch up with him. No. Tomorrow, hopefully we'll get a chance to catch up on how his dad's doing.
Boston Conner
We gotta pull up, too.
Pat McAfee
Pop should pull up.
AJ Hawk
It's not a bad idea.
Pat McAfee
Hey, John. Come through, dude. Listen, I had a night with Papa Halliburton. What? It was incredible.
Ty Schmidt
And a morning, if you know what I mean.
Pat McAfee
What? No, that is actually the complete opposite of who he is. He. That's why I believe he was so mad, because. Because somebody said that he cursed them out. Cursed somebody out. Somebody said. I don't know who said that? Giannis said that. He cursed them out or something like that. This dude has never sworn a day in his life. Okay, Talk shit. Has never sworn. One of those guys.
Darius Butler
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Moxie through the roof. I. I mean, I've obviously witnessed him courtside. I've gotten a chance to chat with him a couple times. Friday night, Gumpy and I go to the skills contest. Congrats to Sabrina.
Boston Conner
Congrats.
Pat McAfee
She wins the three point shooting contest yet again. Almost beats, or she has in the past, I guess one other time, but she almost beat Tyrese Halliburton's men's record one more time. 30 is what he got. So he has the men's record, I believe, for the three point shooting contest. Did we know that about Tyrese? Absolutely not until we were at skills contest. We learned that Sabrina wins again. She just won unconscious for like three of the racks. I mean, and I was there for it. I got a chance to witness the entirety of it, and it was spectacular. Their skills contest about an hour long.
Boston Conner
That's nice.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Pat McAfee
A lot of skills packed into a short amount of time. You know, if you happen to show up just a little bit late to this thing, you know, because it's downtown, you got to get through traffic. There's a lot of this, a lot of that. You know, like, you're missing a lot of this. Let's say you were to get there about 8:30. You missed.
Ty Schmidt
Ms. Half the episode.
Darius Butler
You got half left.
Pat McAfee
Let's say you get there about 8:40, you know, because you're thinking, I got at least hour 20, 20 left of this thing. It's in an arena. It's a skills contest. They're gonna try to drain every dollar out of this thing.
Boston Conner
Well, maybe that's the issue.
Pat McAfee
That's what I'm saying. That thing was over 9:15 quick. I don't think I've ever been in an event that was that like, kind of commercial break.
Ty Schmidt
Perfect.
Pat McAfee
Kind of. It was as a viewer, it was pretty. It was nice, quick in and out. Now, I wonder about families that pay the tickets. Get it all the way down there. You're like 10 minutes later late. You got an hour show, then you're able to get out of there. Who cares? There was a weekend of stuff, but that could be a problem. But yeah, if you got in there late, imagine you get there like 8:55, 8:50.
Ty Schmidt
You're only there for the whole thing.
AJ Hawk
See a trophy presentation.
Pat McAfee
What's that?
Darius Butler
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
But if it's a two hour event, you're getting there at the perfect time. Don't be late.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah. Simple.
Pat McAfee
Agreed. I mean, if you got nothing else going on in your life at all, you could get there right on time for every event. That happens all the time.
Jamie Kennedy
Has any event ever been an hour in an arena?
Pat McAfee
I don't think so. That had open tickets? I don't think so. I actually, I was dumbfounded. I. I'd never been more impressed and flustered at the same time. When it was over, I was like, it's over. They're like, this is over. And I saw everybody getting up and leaving.
Ty Schmidt
I'm like, when's the next event?
Darius Butler
I mean, if you got our.
Boston Conner
Is it only the three point contest?
Darius Butler
If you got Diplo and the ones of twos.
Pat McAfee
I heard Diplo was well received.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, the EDM orders.
Pat McAfee
Now to be clear, Diplo did need to pass the aux to the stud buds. Yeah, I don't know what he was thinking. Stud buds ran Indianapolis. Not everybody. Now, numerous times the stud buds did call for Caitlin Clark to fix things, you know, hey, the bar's closing. 3:00am Somebody called Caitlin Clark. Hey, keep this thing open. Probably stayed open if I had to guess. But the WNBA here in Indianapolis from we heard streets were buzzing. Yeah, we heard the place was live and WNBA players are calling it Miami. That's great. If you'd like to experience Miami, just much more affordable. Come to Indianapolis.
Ty Schmidt
It's the same thing.
Pat McAfee
That's what WNBA players are saying. Not me. I'm just telling you what WNBA players are saying. Great weekend here in the city. Congrats to not Caitlin's team for winning.
AJ Hawk
Correct.
Pat McAfee
And didn't show up for anything either. I think Kelsey Plum personally was trying to shit talk Sabrina. I hope so. I believe she was on Kaitlyn's team. I believe Sabrina was on Caitlyn's team. So I think she like basically was shit talking her. I don't think she meant to throw Caitlin Clark under the bus as much. And she did say immediately afterwards. I'm just trying to keep it light here. And it was not taken that way at all.
AJ Hawk
No.
Pat McAfee
But a lot of people were saying like, hey, come on, do you know why you're in the city you're in right now? She don't want to come to a T shirt meeting. I think we're okay with that.
Darius Butler
It she wore it.
Pat McAfee
But I don't think Kelsey was saying though she did wear it. Yeah, they all wore that shirt.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Kelsey don't give a damn anyways.
Pat McAfee
They all wore that shirt.
AJ Hawk
It's a good point.
Pat McAfee
How about them coming out on the court.
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
All wearing it. And then, bang. The only conversation about the entire weekend T shirts.
Boston Conner
There it is.
Pat McAfee
Let's remember Indianapolis, Miami. That's what they're saying. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who does not live in Miami. Indianapolis. A man who lives in Ohio. He's college football national champion, super bowl champion, Ryder cup winner, Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Paw. What's up, Hawker?
Connor
Yeah. Diplo was not as well received as I thought he might be in that situation.
Pat McAfee
Huh. My wife knew of people that were trying to get into Diplo's event, so if that means anything, there was a. There was maybe a text or two sent, hey, could you potentially hook up ba, ba, ba. To get into Diplo's thing? So there was. We'd like Diplo to know that there was some buzz.
AJ Hawk
High demand.
Ty Schmidt
There's a demand.
Pat McAfee
There was some demand in the city for you. I didn't know anybody in the camp, so I can't. Sure, I can't. I've seen Diplo. I think I've seen him perform.
Connor
He's like a run. The dude's everywhere. He has a running club, like, he's. He has a whole movement behind him.
Darius Butler
Sitting right next to us at mania.
Boston Conner
He was 40.
Ty Schmidt
Was next.
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
What city?
Darius Butler
Philly.
Pat McAfee
Philly.
AJ Hawk
Philly, yeah.
Pat McAfee
Diplo was sitting next to you? Yeah, yeah. Diplo's a mark.
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Diplo's about. Diplo's kind of the man.
Pat McAfee
What's Diplo's song?
Ty Schmidt
Just so I know you know that one that's like so many.
Pat McAfee
I am Diplo.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Boston Conner
The one with.
Ty Schmidt
The one with Parker McCollum is Diplo.
Pat McAfee
Lonely long.
Ty Schmidt
Lonely long. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Okay. That's a banger. Okay, I got it.
Ty Schmidt
That whole album has songs similar to that one that he's got a few I respect.
Boston Conner
You heard the one with him. Where are you now?
Pat McAfee
Why you gotta be so that's a banger. It seems like Diplo's name's on. It's probably.
Ty Schmidt
Is the one with Dua Lipa on.
Pat McAfee
There with the baby.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Levitate.
Boston Conner
Express yourself.
Ty Schmidt
Is that.
Boston Conner
No, he does have one with the baby.
Pat McAfee
That Diplo needs to come back to Todd. Diplo's kind of Diplo needs to come back to Tom Town. All right, let's. WNBA was great. AJ. My take on it all was. They're already losing 40 million. Everybody's talked about it. Why not just add an extra 4 million bucks? Give them all $30,000. Now they're up over 100 grand at least. That's a respectable amount for a professional league to pay their professional athletes, especially one that has a TV deal. AJ now them losing $40 million in profits, everybody's attacking the players, saying, hey, you guys create a product that isn't like, that doesn't generate capital. It's like, okay, what are we spending this money on? You know, how can he have $200 million in revenue and then spend $240 million each year and just keep rolling? Like, is there. Is there never a who's percentage of getting too.
Connor
That's what it is.
Pat McAfee
They.
Connor
They got to fight for percentage, I would imagine. But do we know if there's any other professional sports leagues that are losing as much money like do other sport, like, I don't know, lacrosse, allegedly.
Pat McAfee
Stephen Colbert's losing. Learning a lot about a lot of things. So it's. It's an interesting kind of process here because we've been very lucky that we've been forced to just basically only do business with our show. Ours. The only way our business has worked is our show has worked is business. We have to make money for the people that we are working for. Like, that is how I kind of view it and everything now. We've been very lucky to negotiate a lot of deals. Every time, though, I give a road back to how your company profits with us. Now, I don't know how many people are doing that. I assume a lot of agents do that as well. I've never been in there with an agent while that's happening, but that is my. That is my negotiating style. Hey, here's how this thing goes in my eyes. Here's your road back to your amount of money. And plus, here's where you can help us. Here's what we think we can bring you. Now, all of that ends, though, with profit, okay? Which is all any of these people care about. Now, granted, if we can make the world a better place, cool. If it's going to have massive success, cool. But if it's going to make the world a better place and have massive success, it's probably going to. Probably going to turn a profit. Probably going to profit as well. So for me, from a standpoint as an athlete who actually does negotiations and has been in there with people and generates some capital, and I think the valuation of the company that I've guided is probably going to come out here in a little bit and people are going to be like, holy fuck, maybe this guy isn't the dumbest dipshit in the history of sports media. But with that being said, I think WNBA players making the statement that they did. I appreciate their commitment, I appreciate their passion. I appreciate, I appreciate their togetherness. Like the collective. Everybody was wearing it. Now, how do you get the road back to make that a profitable company? Now is that just on the players or is that potentially on all the business people too, from the league, you know, that are doing their entire thing? What are we spending money on? Is it the same as what the NFL Pa. Well, age can't have it.
Connor
Did we have any idea all of this was going, kind of going on behind the scenes? Like, did anyone know the magnitude of all of this? Like everything happening?
Pat McAfee
So in my head, this is straight out of let's take advantage of dumb professional athletes.
Connor
I mean, but we can't, first off, like, we can't be turned in strip club receipts as business expenses, transportation, how.
Darius Butler
To get there, how to get there.
Pat McAfee
You think I'm alone in here? You have rights. There's another NFLPA exec in here too. Did we talk about the NFLPA in here? Absolutely. We're bettering the nflpa. This is a meeting, is it not? Yeah. Certainly expensive. Charge the dumb ass players. Now, I could see how somebody would want to do that, especially whenever you just have an actual war chest of money. That is what they call we got to build up the war chest for whenever the CBA negotiations happen because these deals aren't negotiating themselves. They up the fees. We need more money to get to war chest because these deals aren't negotiating themselves. When you guys get fined, you need somebody combative. We want to hire the best lawyers. You know how we hire the best lawyers? Well, we got to pay them a high per hour rate. How do we get a higher per hour rate? Well, we need more money from you guys. We go from 20,000 bucks from each of you guys. 22,000. 22,000. You guys, that ain't nothing to worry about it. Where's all this money going for you? That's where this money is going. Don't you worry about it. Everybody before you has joined it. And look at what the union has done for for you in the past. Roll a video. Bang. There was rats running around in a locker room. There was E. Coli in the water bottles. Jeez. And then your union changed the entire NFL and got you guys contracts. Veteran men's and rookie men's and yada yada. That's because of us. And I'm like, you weren't even Alive. When that happened, you were handed the baton of this entire thing. And all I've ever seen you do is try to let the world, world know that you are the head of the nflpa. Now tomorrow, Smith had very difficult job. Very difficult job. Demori Smith being head of the nflpa. I heard his first speech. What? When were you drafted?
Darius Butler
Same.09 rookie symposium.
Pat McAfee
A week after we were drafted in Jacksonville.
Darius Butler
I think the can.
Pat McAfee
No, I think it was Jacksonville.
Connor
It was San Diego.
Pat McAfee
And I went, I think it was Jacksonville when we won. I think it alternates. I think it was Florida. I'm almost preaching. I saw Gator. We were doing a conditioning test. This thing. I think it was. I think it was in Florida. He gave a speech, though. This is the first time I'm hearing any union person.
Boston Conner
Palm Beach Gardens.
Pat McAfee
Which Florida? Florida. Okay. Where's that at?
Darius Butler
Palm Beach? Like South Florida.
Connor
You know where Palm beach is? Yeah. You know, a lot of stuff happened down there.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Didn't you have a house in West Hollywood, A.J.
Pat McAfee
A.J.
Connor
West, actually, no, never have.
Pat McAfee
Anyways, I went down there. This guy gave a full speech about war. We're going to war, war with the NFL and yada, yada, yada, we need this. And gave a bunch of quotes and all this. And I'm like, man, I didn't know that's how, like, the best business was done. It's just like, I'm going to punch somebody in the face. And it's like, well, I guess they feel that way as well. Inevitably, lockout happens. They beat us in a negotiation, Jeff. Saturday allegedly has to come in, get the deal done. Well, how'd the deal go? Well, it just got done. You know, Owners win yet again. They're going to be in the city's life long after the players are. They're going to be billionaires long after these players go broke. They have all the leverage. We lose. It's like, shouldn't we try to just, like, do business with these people? Shouldn't we try to, like, you know.
Connor
We need each other. We need each other. Absolutely.
Pat McAfee
And there has to be other avenues to create money other than just your negotiations with the NFL. Well, we have licensing agreements with fanatics. Oh, how much do the players make? Oh, 30 cents a T shirt. Oh, great deal. That's a great deal. Way to really negotiate that entire thing. Hey, I need your help. I'm getting drug tested. The max amount of time. Times every single month for 27 straight months. Because I think this guy hates me, because he thinks I'm lying. Yes, I'm hunting for bigfoot in Georgia. Yes, I'm hunting for gators in Florida. Yes, I'm hunting for ghosts in Louisiana. I'm tired of this guy testing me everywhere I go. He thinks I'm hiding, but I'm here every single time. Can you guys help me? We'll call you back. Two years later, I get a call back, you good, bro? No. I just took 230 tests in 27 months. Feels like I was getting targeted a bit, but I won't let you know I pissed cause clean every single time. And I don't need your help anymore. I have a bad relationship with the nflpa, always have. And when they hired this Lloyd Howe guy, I think to myself, this guy's in the middle of a fraud case right now. His previous company was in the middle of the biggest, I think, payout in the history of something, 350/some million. He was the finance guy for this thing that was happening. They're like, yeah, but we like that. We like that he was doing that. So I was like, I think the signs were there, you know, I think the signs were there that this potentially was not going to work out well. But is it ever going to work out well, that's kind of my question in the entirety, because immediate response is, we need this guy that's been in here for 30 years. It's like, I don't think so. I think you need somebody that is never the guy to do it. And it was mentioned this morning, there's one dude for this job, perfect dude for this job. And I don't think, now, granted, this is me like lobbying for him, I guess. I'm sure there's other good people out there, but this guy, he's dealt with crisis management before. That was his actual job. He was a former player, actual job at one point, career, long career. And then he ran a team, was a president of a team. Jason Wright. Jay Wright is the right guy for this job, I think, for the NFLPA crisis management. Ran a team, had to create businesses, had to do his thing. And he was a player at the same time. It's like feels like he's the right guy for the game, but I have no idea how much you pay at that job. If I look at the Maury Smith, he had six different suits at one super bowl day that I saw him at. I couldn't imagine what the next day was and how the whole thing goes. But it's a wild situation. With the NFLPA age legit. It's a wild situation.
Connor
Well, J.C. treader, too. J.C. treader resigning. So I played with J.C. for a year in Green Bay, and then the fact that he has to resign because of all of this, I just. I guess I didn't know how.
Pat McAfee
How.
Connor
I don't know, confusing and how unorganized and how messed up the whole PA was until all this stuff.
Pat McAfee
You didn't know that I knew.
Connor
I knew the PA was not. I. I was not a gigantic fan of the PA ever. I never said it was, like, smoothly run or, hey, everything's going well. I just didn't know it was this. Like, I didn't know it was this much in disarray. I guess.
Pat McAfee
I. When did they decide to delay the player performance bonuses? I forget what year that was. We're gonna delay these bonuses to build.
Connor
The war chest, right?
Pat McAfee
Yeah. We're gonna save these and we're gonna delay. We're gonna pay you in two years or whatever. I was like, where's my money? That's a lot of money. Where.
Connor
Who's making the interest on that? Who gets that interest?
Pat McAfee
Who's using this? Who's. Oh, we're just keeping it away for you for a later day. It's like, why? Want it today?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I need it.
Pat McAfee
I'm about to go buy Dairy Queen. About to go buy a franchise. Yeah, a Dairy Queen franchise. Go to Montreal, and that's what I'm going to do. So. It's just I never saw the. The business the same way they did, let alone them having their meetings in Hawaii. Remember that? Oh, yeah. We're going in Four seasons. Where at 4. Wahoo. For what? NFLPA meetings. Two weeks. Who's paying for that? We're making the players better, silly you. I can't. I just couldn't. I. I just. All of. I'm sure there's good people in there. I'm sure there's good people in there. And somebody within the NFLPA had to point that this was happening. So that gives me hope that at least there's some people in there. But, man, I think a new vision would be a good idea.
Darius Butler
Yeah. I mean, it's a tough job, so.
Pat McAfee
And tootsies, by the way, first.
Darius Butler
Yeah. First of all, you get it. It's a great restaurant.
Pat McAfee
Good food, Good food, overnight food.
Connor
You're making, like, four, five, six million dollars. You don't need to turn in a $700 receipt for a car ride, though.
Darius Butler
We know they were there.
Ty Schmidt
Not a car ride.
Pat McAfee
Well, you think his. You think his family wanted to see those VIP rooms? Absolutely.
Boston Conner
Two VIP rooms for the meeting room, Extra creme brulee.
Pat McAfee
What they have back there, they might have. They might have a spread of food, like JJ water. Did you see that post?
Ty Schmidt
Jj?
Pat McAfee
Is that his cheat meal? You think he was acting like that?
Darius Butler
You think this was stayed overnight breakfast? I never.
Pat McAfee
Maybe this is in the back. Maybe this what Lloyd how was looking.
Connor
For is he drinking all that liquid and all the syrup, all that down himself?
AJ Hawk
Badlands Booker was actually eating breakfast with him too.
Pat McAfee
Call jj.
Darius Butler
That's not. It's not just for him, right?
Pat McAfee
Get better, is he not?
Boston Conner
That's like that.
Pat McAfee
That'll play. He's on. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, JJ Watt. Jj. What.
Connor
Looks sweet.
J.J. Watt
What's happening? Sorry? What's happening?
Pat McAfee
You tell me, dude. We. Hey, real quick.
J.J. Watt
You don't know what breakfast is? That's apparently what's happening.
Pat McAfee
No. Okay. You were kind of alluding, by the way, the hair was great.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, go back.
Pat McAfee
I did not expect the hair. You were. Were you alluding that being a cheat meal? What was. This was your meal. This is like a Dwayne Johnson type cheat meal type. Just got done with Moana. Now we're doing this type. Is that what you're doing here? Because that's how I took it.
J.J. Watt
I was alluding to nothing. I was just proud of the breakfast I made for a little family gathering. My dad and I put it together out on the Blackstone, and I was just proud of it. It looked good. No illusions, no nothing. Just. I mean, that. That French toast down there, that's some cinnamon swirl French toast. I mean, eggs were straight off the grill. I got a lot of people saying eggs had to be cold, eggs had. Those eggs were straight off the griddle. Hot, fresh, ready.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so how many people ate this?
J.J. Watt
Six adults or. Yeah, six adults.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Connor
Okay.
Pat McAfee
That's a great breakfast. Hey, congratulations on making a great breakfast. Because the way I write that was valuable. I apologize.
J.J. Watt
I mean, five slices for myself on the French toast alone.
Pat McAfee
Oh, no big deal. No big deal. You made it yourself. You should enjoy it. Chef Watt, congrats on espanol.
J.J. Watt
PA combo. I heard there was a PA combo going on.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So that's how we got to your breakfast here, actually. We thought Lloyd Howell potentially in the back down there at Tootsie's, got two of those spreads. That's where all this money was coming from. Especially because he stayed overnight. Little early bird gets the worm down there at Tootsies. Lloyd Howe says, give me the J.J. watt cinnamon swirl French toast egg spread. Down there at Tootsie's. Yeah, disarray is a bit of an understatement. AJ Said he wasn't the biggest fan of the NFLPA throughout his career, but he was surprised about how ridiculous this all is. I think that's probably an accurate way to depict it. How do you feel, J?
J.J. Watt
Yeah, I mean, I have a similar thought. I mean I. The PA is an extremely difficult job because you're trying to get the entire National Football League on the same page, fighting towards the same cause. And you have to remember the hardest part of it all is that it's 3.3 years or less. That's the average NFL career. So most of these guys are in the league for three years or less. They do not care about long term goals of the pa they don't care about long term objectives. We want to play and we want to get paid. And that's how I was as a rookie. I came in during the lockout and they kept talking about all the big picture things and everything and I was like, guys, I don't care. I just want to play my pay. Trent Williams got drafted in the same slot the year before me got a lot more money than I did. I didn't care. I was like, put me on the field and let me play. As I went in my career and as I saw how this business works, I started to understand, oh, there is a whole lot you should be fighting for here. And there is a whole lot that we could do if we all banded together and decided to use our leverage. But I understand why we don't, because like I said, I was in that spot. So the number one objective of whoever's going to lead this thing next, which is a near impossible objective, is to get every single player on the same page understand that you're fighting for percentages of multi billions and billions of dollars. Not for little practice things, not for these little things. In the off season, in the OTA days, you need to get everybody on the same page and stand together to fight for one massive goal. But it's extremely hard to do because guys just want to be on the field and get in the paychecks.
Pat McAfee
Brother team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. That's what we need, J. That's what we need. Are you going to lead it? And plus also the bubble probably. Are you going to lead it?
Darius Butler
Should.
J.J. Watt
No, because I said like I, I literally don't know if somebody can do it because you're, you're fighting against guys dreams, you're fighting against Everything they've worked their whole life for. So you got all these rookies and all these first and second year guys that have dreamt about this movie moment and you're trying to get them to stop it. You're trying to get them to say, no, I don't need to play right now. This is a bigger thing and it's really, really hard to do. You've been to those meetings. You schedule a meeting for Wednesday after practice at the end of a long day and it's 4 or 5pm and you've been working your ass off. Everybody's bolting out of the building. They're not sitting there listening to the PA guy talk about the 401k plan everybody wants gone.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I. I actually didn't sign up for the NFLPA the last two years of my career because I didn't want to sit in those meetings because I felt obligated to say something. Everybody's tired. I'm the punter. I don't need to be the one holding up this entire meeting. Everything he said is bullshit. Do you have any questions? I don't. I hate that I'm here. And then I just, I stopped going, so I stopped signing up for it. And I missed out on a Madden check or two. But at the end of the day, I feel like I wanted to be a part of. Because it can be special. You talk about how much leverage they have. Think about all the businesses. And I put this in my very long tweet post about it. Think about how many businesses want to do business with the NFL. It's like the Players association should be operating as an agency for players getting more money. Money, protection, opportunities. That is all we're looking for here, for the players. Money, protection and opportunities. You should be able to act and get deals that done and you should be able to. I don't know. Jason writes the right guy for it. All right, J, we appreciate you.
Boston Conner
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Pat McAfee
Hold on. Big family congrat. Yeah, me, oh boy.
Boston Conner
You Derek, Te, Omar, Coach T. The Rooneys. We did it, brother.
Pat McAfee
Congratulations.
Boston Conner
How do we feel? How do we feel? Come on. How's. How's Teach feel? How do we feel? Come on, give it to me.
Pat McAfee
About.
J.J. Watt
About the new jerseys.
AJ Hawk
Those are.
Pat McAfee
Did we see those yet?
Boston Conner
They're better than the Bubble. They're better than the Bumblebees.
Pat McAfee
Okay, I hate them. Let's go.
Boston Conner
They're from 1933. That's what jerseys looked like.
Pat McAfee
All right, I hate them. Let's go to the next one. That is Cool looking out.
Boston Conner
How do we feel?
Pat McAfee
We're done.
Boston Conner
We got it. Done, huh?
Pat McAfee
We did it. How do we feel?
Boston Conner
Stage feel?
J.J. Watt
Oh, I'm happy for him, man.
Boston Conner
One helmet guy.
J.J. Watt
He's excited. He's extremely excited.
Pat McAfee
It's.
J.J. Watt
It's a very rare thing in today's NFL, so it's really special. He's earned it. He deserves it and couldn't be more proud for him.
Pat McAfee
Did you see how jacked he looked? His right arm?
Connor
Does he gained weight? He looks huge. He looks very jacked. Did he change anything, Jage?
J.J. Watt
I mean, he's in a great spot. I know he's. I know he feels extremely good. He's been training his.
Pat McAfee
Is that a thigh? What the hell's hanging off his right shoulder?
J.J. Watt
Yeah, he's doing. He's in a good spot. He's really excited about camp. He's looking forward to being back with the boys. It's going to be great.
Pat McAfee
Herbig's awesome.
Ty Schmidt
Jesse, great moxie.
Pat McAfee
The guy that's with TJ and his.
J.J. Watt
Herbig's great. Underrated, Herbig, very underrated.
Pat McAfee
I hope Herbig has a massive year so that the world gets to know him a little bit better. He's a dog. Tj, though, looks unbelievable. Unbelievable. Congrats you entire family. I'm happy to hear that wasn't just a cheat meal for you. That was for the whole group. And congrats on espanol. Congrats on espanol.
Boston Conner
Did he learn to speak?
J.J. Watt
I am. I'm. I'm working on my Catalan and Spanish. We got a. We got a dual language going on and I'm not fluent in either, so I'm working hard on both of them. But yeah, we're very excited about espanol. It's going to be a lot of fun. Gonna make some trips to Barcelona. We obviously are gonna make. We'll do a McAfee Boys tour. We'll do Barcelona and we'll do Burnley and then we'll swing through the Berg and then back home.
Pat McAfee
That's actually not that bad.
AJ Hawk
Sounds pretty sweet.
Pat McAfee
So call it the B. The B Tour. Killer beast.
AJ Hawk
Yep.
Pat McAfee
We'll go through Barcelona, then to Burnley, then to the Berg and then we'll come back home. You see B. B, B, B, B Squad B. That'd be great. This team sucks. What are we doing? How's this? I never heard of this thing. I never heard of this team. Who. I'm. I'm. Hey, I don't know what. Let's go is.
J.J. Watt
You were the same about Burnley. You were the same about Burnley. We're all. Don't worry.
Pat McAfee
Vamos Espanol. This is my team now. What. What league are we're in? The super duper league over there.
J.J. Watt
La Liga. La Liga.
Boston Conner
Same as reality.
Pat McAfee
Hold on.
Ty Schmidt
Hold on for now.
Pat McAfee
We're. We're here. Aren't we? Normally. Don't we want to live. Don't we want to do this one and then get to here and then you bought. We're here.
J.J. Watt
Hey. Hey. You just. You just leave conceifa. All right? You just. You go to the quarterfinals on a yearly basis.
Pat McAfee
Have your trip semi.
Jamie Kennedy
Make sure you're asking for more money from Man City for that goalie yours. They just got a billion dollar deal from Puma.
Pat McAfee
Puma just gave them all the money. And you're not the first person that Gumpy is told that you need to get more money from Puma. He was telling Tyrese Haliburton that on Friday. Have you seen this? Holding his phone up. You need to renegotiate with Puma immediately. They got a lot of money. Vamos Espanol. That's my team in La Liga, I guess.
AJ Hawk
Is that their catchphrase?
Pat McAfee
Yes.
AJ Hawk
What's their. What's their.
J.J. Watt
Glad to have you aboard.
Pat McAfee
We'll.
J.J. Watt
We'll get some kits over to the boys soon. We got the blue and white in Spain. We got the claret and blue in England.
Pat McAfee
What's the chant? V?
J.J. Watt
Working on learning it. Working on learning it.
Pat McAfee
You don't even know the chance.
Ty Schmidt
What's their mascots? Is it the clerics too?
J.J. Watt
We are the parakeets.
Pat McAfee
Parakeets.
Boston Conner
Like that?
J.J. Watt
Parakeets.
Pat McAfee
What the. A parakeet.
AJ Hawk
Little bird.
Pat McAfee
That's a canary, I believe.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Same thing.
Connor
Don't parakeets teach you to speak like Twitter?
Pat McAfee
That's the parakeet.
J.J. Watt
That's the best.
Pat McAfee
Just a bird.
Boston Conner
I think you mean like.
Pat McAfee
Well, it's dead now.
J.J. Watt
It's got a beautiful stadium over there. Got a beautiful stadium. I think we should try and get an NFL game in RCD stadium.
Pat McAfee
I don't want you pay. Put together a bid. You're the owner.
J.J. Watt
Putting that out in the universe. Putting that out in the universe right now.
Pat McAfee
Okay. So how many people are in on this? We know dude was perfect. Was in Burnley.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Is it same group buying this one?
J.J. Watt
Yeah, same group. Alan Pace leads the group.
Pat McAfee
He's.
J.J. Watt
He's doing a great job for us. He's incredible what he does. He bought Burnley and now has purchased Espanol. And we got a Great, Great organization, great system. It's a lot of fun.
Pat McAfee
Who's Alan Pace?
J.J. Watt
He's the head of our group. He does a great job. He runs the day to day of everything. Burnley and Espanol.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but what do you do beforehand, though? You don't just fall to the position of buying teams for Tyler and J.J. watts. He's a very.
J.J. Watt
He's a very smart businessman. He's a very smart businessman.
Pat McAfee
We need ass at the NFL. Pa. He needs. Stop buying up Espanol. We need his ass over there for the players. All right. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, JJ Wall. Yeah, he didn't really compliment TJ's arms much.
Boston Conner
No, he didn't like that.
Pat McAfee
Cuz he's. I bet you he's probably. They're not that big. Dude. He's angling there.
Boston Conner
TJ's doubled his career earnings too.
Darius Butler
So it's like.
Pat McAfee
I saw that. That. Yeah. Which, by the way, thank God for the nflpa.
J.J. Watt
Yep.
Pat McAfee
They did it.
Connor
They did it. They did it.
Ty Schmidt
Why does that guy just like to buy poopy teams in soccer?
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I don't know, Gumpy. You'd have to. You'd know this better than us. I thought if you buy him like Wrexham did. Rob Mack.
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
Pat McAfee
And Boyce down there at the bottom, and then it climbs up, it gains value, then you try to sell that shit off whenever you go up. Right. Like that's business plan. If you're only looking at it as a business as opposed to a team that you love. Feels like JJ actually like, loves Burnley too. Like very much so. You can see him get a little heat whenever we start bringing up how Burnley's doing. Feels like he's attached to them. But business wise, he's bought both of these teams now when they're at the top leagues. That's interesting than what I've ever heard. Right. Is that different or.
Jamie Kennedy
No, I think with where he bought espanol, they finished 14th in La Liga. So if you make the Conference League or the Europa League in UEFA now, you'll get so much money. And the way La Liga works, there's only kind of the big dog. So if you can get into that top eight, you're getting a shitload of money.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so Alan Pace was like, I got eyes on esp.
Connor
Could they play? Do they ever play each other?
Pat McAfee
How's this work?
Connor
I don't get it.
Pat McAfee
Well, you could get in a Champions League.
Boston Conner
They could.
Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Right.
Connor
If they make it to the very top, they could. They could face each other.
Pat McAfee
Top Four in each league. Right.
Jamie Kennedy
Top four. And then there's also Europa League and Conference League as well. So if you finish like top eight in your league, you'll get into one.
Pat McAfee
Of those tournament and there's a chance. Espanol and Burnley are dancing with each other in the JJ waffle.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Jamie Kennedy
I would say more Espanol than Burnley, but yes.
Pat McAfee
Oh, you think Espanol is ahead of schedule?
Jamie Kennedy
Espanol is a historic team in Spain. They've been around forever.
Pat McAfee
Well, so is Burnley. Right. Burnley's like, very old. This is kind of JJ's thing. Like, hey, here's a good brand. Cool brand. Maybe this is the one that we latch our wagon to.
Jamie Kennedy
Yeah. Burnley signed Kyle Walker too, from menci. That was a pretty big signing. One of the greatest right backs in England.
Ty Schmidt
If they do like a top.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they're doing like a methy type thing with Burnley.
AJ Hawk
Love that.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Which I like an MLS type. Right. Isn't that kind of how they're doing? They're getting some legends over there.
Jamie Kennedy
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Like older legends coming to Burnley. Good move up the clttes.
AJ Hawk
Okay. I like that.
Connor
Like Maurice.
Boston Conner
I like Maurice and the jug that Scotty drinks out. I don't know. Scotty probably didn't party last night. He just flew home.
Pat McAfee
I appreciate it. He put that thing down. He gets it, puts it down, goes and gives a speech. Certainly supposed to hold the. That while you're giving this. Without a doubt. That thing's sitting on a table next to him. He's got hands on hips. Yeah. Thank you all so much. Turns out, checks his notes. Yeah. Hit everybody. Obviously this guy's unbelievable, is he not?
Connor
He's a freak.
Pat McAfee
He.
Connor
And I guess he. For him. I just wonder what's going through his mind because he is. I look at him like I looked at Tiger when Tiger was rolling. Like, of course he's going to win. Of course. The guy doesn't feel any pressure. Of course. Like, he's going to hit, like, the first hole. Like we said. His second shot goes to like three feet and he taps it in for birdie to start the whole tournament or the whole final day. Like, I don't know. Like, the guy's just not human right now. It's ridiculous.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. He's unconscious. But then he is more human than he's ever been. He's given more human answers than we've ever heard before from him and giving answers that we've never heard before from the. The top of the top. You know, the way everybody talks about the intensity and Everything the way they view it and the mindset, you have to have. Have to be great to conquer all these mountains that you have to conquer every single day to become this damn good in this big of a moment. It's like you got to be a real dog. He is a real dog.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Scotty Scheffler is a psycho. I. I would like everybody to understand that Scotty Scheffler, whenever it comes to golf for his entire life, has been a psycho about it. Had to be to get to this point in the ability to be able to manage that and still be who he is. I think golf is the perfect sport for that type of attitude. Obviously. Obviously, Tiger was a little bit different, but, like, how he's been able to do that even when he was getting arrested at his tournament. He's number one player in the world. It's his tournament that he's showing up at. Basically, he's getting arrested. He's like, where are we? Okay. Just like, completely cool. As opposed. Imagine if that was. I don't want to start saying everybody's names. Imagine Peyton Manning gets arrested driving to a playoff game outside of the stadium. You think Peyton would be cool with everything, how everything would just go. Think about Tiger in the same situation, having that happen to him. What he would be like Wayne Gretzky, I think maybe coolest goat that we've heard in a long time. If he was to get stopped right outside, I think that would affect you a little bit. He just. No big deal. I'm a stretch in jail, actually. It's just like, obviously he's a very man full of faith and everything like that. And he says, you know, a lot about the Lord and Jesus Christ and everything, which I respect and appreciate. But here on Earth, having to deal with all the adversity that he's having to deal with while leaning on that, I. Nothing but a hat's off. We are lucky to be around while this guy is around.
Darius Butler
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
I don't know how long this lasts. I have no idea how long. Seems like maybe forever.
Darius Butler
Hopefully he fooled me this weekend. I thought, you know, when he was talking all the deep shit, because you mentioned it. You know, talk about all the greats, Peyton, Tom Jordan, Tiger woods, like, they weren't speaking on any of this. They just spoke on dominating and killing the. The opposition. So for him to be having those deep answers going into it. Do we have the video?
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah.
Darius Butler
Okay, let's go to.
Gumpy
Feels like you work your whole life to celebrate winning a tournament for like a. A few Minutes. It only lasts a few minutes, that kind of euphoric feeling. And I like to win the Byron Nelson Championship at home. I literally worked my entire life to become good at golf, to have an opportunity to win that tournament. And you win it, you celebrate. Get to hug, hug my family, My sister's there. It's such an amazing moment. And then it's like, okay, now. Now what are we going to eat for dinner? You know, life goes on this.
Pat McAfee
There's traffic outside. We got to win.
Gumpy
Is it great to be able to win tournaments and to accomplish the things I have in the game of golf yet? I mean, it. It brings tears my eyes just to think about, because it's literally worked my entire entire life to become good at the sport and to have that kind of sense of accomplishment, I think is. Is a pretty cool feeling. You know, to get to live out your dreams is very special. But at the end of the day, it's like, I'm not out here to inspire the next generation of golfers. I don't. I'm not here to inspire somebody else to be the best player in the world, because what's the point? You know, this is not a fulfilling, don't do life. It's. It's fulfilling from the sense of accomplishment, but it's not fulfilling from a sense of, like, the deepest, you know, places of your heart. You know, there's a lot of people that make it to what they thought was going to fulfill them in life. And then you get there, and all of a sudden you get to number one in the world, and then they're like, what's the point? And, you know, I really do believe that, because, you know, what is the point? You're like, why do I want to win this tournament so bad? That's something that I wrestle with on a daily basis. It's like showing up at the Masters every year. It's like, why do I want to win this golf tournament so badly? Why do I want to win the Open Championship so badly? I don't know. Because if I win, it's going to be awesome for about two minutes, and then we're going to get to the next week, and it's going to be like, hey, you won two majors this year. How important is it for you to win the FedEx cup playoffs? And it's just like, we're back here again, you know, so we really do. We work so hard for such little moments. And, you know, I'm kind of a sicko. I love putting in the work. I love being Able to practice. I love getting out to live out my dreams. But. But at the end of the day, sometimes I just don't understand the point, you know, because I don't know if I'm making any sense or not. But am I not? It's just one of those deals, you know, I love the challenge. I love being able to play this game for a living. It's one of the greatest joys of my life. But does it fill the deepest wants and desires of my heart? Absolutely not.
Pat McAfee
What do you find fulfilling?
Gumpy
I mean, I love playing golf. I love being able to compete. I love living out my dreams. I love being a father. I love being able to take care of my son. I love being able to provide for my family out here playing golf. And, you know, every day when I wake up early to go put in the work, you know, my wife thanks me for going out and working so hard. And when I get home, I try to thank her every day for taking care of our son. It's just, you know, that's why I talk about families being my priority, because it really is. You know, I'm blessed to be able to come out here and play golf. But if my golf ever started affecting my home life or it ever affected the relationship I have with my wife or with my son, you know, that's gonna be the last day that I play out here for a living. You know, this is not the be all, end all. This is not the most important thing in my life. And that's why I wrestle with, why is this so important to me? Because, you know, I would much rather be a great father than I would be a great golfer. You know, that at the end of the day, that. That's what's more important to me. When I sit back at the end of the year and, you know, I kind of try to reflect on things like having that sense of accomplishment from winning the Masters Tournament, from winning the PGA Championship. I have a deep sense of gratitude and appreciation for it. But it's just hard to explain how it doesn't. It just doesn't satisfy. Is. Is how I would describe it. It's an unsatisfying venture. And so I guess what. What I'm trying to say is this is not. This is not the place to look for your satisfaction. This is something that's where you can have a great appreciation for and a great. Like a great amount of thankfulness for being able to do this. And it's. I mean, like I said, it's. It's literally one of the Most fun things that I can do in my entire life. I love being able to come out here and play golf and compete, but at the end of the day, it's just not what satisfies me.
Pat McAfee
He says all that before winning the Ocean. He says all that before winning the Open. Whenever. Golf is an in between the ears game, more so than any other sport because of, you know, if you miss by that much, it's shank. It's a whole different tournament. You got to hit the thing pure every single time to know where you're going. And I am at a much different level than Scottie Scheffler at all things. Being human, it sounds like being a father, being a husband. He checked all the boxes in there about how, hey, whenever we prioritize what's important at this stage in life. Now if you were to ask him at 18, okay, it's vastly different now. He's generated a lot of capital. He understands what's available. He understands what life is. At this stage of my life, if you were to ask me what's important, it's this and this. Now this being great is amazing thing. And there were some people that took it negatively. And that's always going to happen. I think what Scotty Scheffler just said was incredibly profound. Yeah, I think it was amazing to hear the insight of what it's like to be one of the greatest of all time at something and at a much smaller level. Whenever I talked to Jim Ursay about retiring, I told him. I was like, I thought, because I didn't really know how to punt when I got drafted, the NFL. So my entire chase was like, I want to become the best in the world at this. I want to figure out how I can become the best at this, the best at this, the best at this. I want to get better for my team every day. Work bomb, bomb. Ba ba ba. Every decision I was making was like, am I going to be a better punter or a worse punter because of this? Can I kick balls further because of this? And then I finally get to the point where I think, I don't want to speak out of pocket here, but I think everybody kind of realized that I became the best in the world at my jobs. I was doing multiple kicking off, punting and holding. We almost had two perfect seasons. So, like, I think all those things, I got to the point where some would consider me the best in the world at it. And I got up there and I was like, I thought, I feel different, you know, still still get Diarrhea, still have traffic. My power still goes out of my house. Plumbing still an issue. I still have all these problems that I thought were just going to disappear if I became great at it. And I was very confused by that. I said that to Jim. I was like, that was a tough thing for me to kind of grasp because this thing that I was chasing was vastly different whenever I got there than what I thought it was going to be. In. Jim immediately, he had a vape. His vape smoke was going out. He could have been a professional cloud vape blower. I think the amount of smoke he said he was talking to one of the Beatles. I think it was Ringo Starr. He said, I was talking to Ringo brother. And he said, they got all the way up to the top and they stayed up there. And at some point, you're at the top of the mountain, you look around and you go, this view isn't as good as it was. Why did I. This view is nowhere near what I thought it was going to be. Whenever I was puking on the way up here, when I was sacrificing my entire life on the way up here, when I was giving up friendships, when I was giving up moments, I get all the way to the top of the mountain because this is what we're trying to get to. And the view is not worth it. Just not worth it. So now we're to going. You do well now you just got to hang out up there and look at something that you almost feel is like a regret because this is what you chose to focus on. And he said, but what the people at the top of the mountain forget is that there was a time when he couldn't see that view. And the view kind of gets lost behind the mountain. And then every once in a while you see a reset. People kind of get reset. You get dropped back down. And then all of a sudden it's like, wait a second, that view wasn't that bad. Then you come back. And he said, it's very natural in, like, people's lives. So I wonder if that'll happen for Scotty inevitably. I'm not saying it's going to happen anytime soon. Obviously, he's incredible. But inevitably, it feels like whenever you get to the top of the mountain, you're not always going to be able to remain fulfilled. You're not always going to be remain satisfied. Everybody has to find something to continue to work for. That's why, like Nick Saban, whenever he wakes up, every day, Bill Belichick every day that mamba mentality at a Kobe every day. It's unique. It is a very, very unique thing that I think a lot of people from a lot of different people field struggle with. And I think Scotty's in the middle of it. Like, I've sacrificed my entire life to be this guy, and it's amazing. And then all of a sudden, Bennett just blew up his diaper. Okay, we needed some wet wipes here. We need to move on. I'm still a human. I've loved everything he said.
Darius Butler
Yeah, it was perfect. And that's why I think a lot of people, you know, find other things. Like, you know, like even like ayahuasca. So find like, okay, what's the true meaning of this? But like, when you have, you know, you have kids and you know, you reach all the those different pinnacles, whether it's drafted, whether it's signing 100 million dollar deal or doing whatever it is, and then you realize, okay, there are things that are much more fulfilling. But you rarely hear that from a guy that's entering his prime. Like, dude's like 29. Like you, you heard like Kobe, God rest his soul. Like, he was that guy kind of towards the end of his career after he was done. But it's usually when guys are old and washed up and it's kind of behind them, they're looking back. You rarely hear a guy speaking like that when they are at the pinnacle. So I love everything about what he's doing. You know, obviously, you know, on the course and then off the course is what I think. It's a great message, not only to athletes, but just to everybody.
Pat McAfee
I think so too. And aj, you think this is potentially a little mental game he's playing with himself. I think it's like, hey, this ain't that important.
Connor
Yes, for sure. I think it's hugely beneficial, especially as a golfer, because think of. I think that frees him up to go out there and play because, like, what's the worst that could happen? I'd lose this tournament.
Ty Schmidt
Cool.
Connor
I still got my awesome. Some life outside of this. And we know golf. Like, look at the stress that these guys are under every single shot. Like, say you're a dude that's a stud, but you're trying to get your first major or whatever, and you have the lead heading into the last, like the last day. You have to sleep on the lead and tee off at 3pm like, the amount, like just golf is a sport where you have to be free. You have to feel like you can, you can let it go. And I feel like Scotty, because of his mindset, because of his perspective, it gives like it frees him up. He's like, hey man, like, yeah, I work my ass off all day every day, but I understand this isn't who I am. But yeah, it's awesome. Why don't. How about I just become. I'll be the best dad and husband and the best golfer in the world. Let's see how many years I can.
Pat McAfee
Make that go well. And Jordan Speed saying he's able to turn it off when he goes home and everything like that. That's rare. Like this dude's a rare, this a rare mindset that people at the top have. And it might be a mental game, you know, to minimize golf in his eyes. Like, hey, we already have it all, you know, and then Nike ad was sick. You've already won so dope. But another major is nice or whatever it is. It's like it certainly is. That mindset in golf can be a very, you know, weaponizing. That could be a very good one. Knowing that, hey, alternate plans here. Go hang out with my kid. That's not a bad little fallback plan. But you talk about the guys trying to make it, how nerve wracking it all is. There was, stats came out. Obviously we all saw it. I think we posted in the first hour. That's ten consecutive Sundays he's had to lead going into the day and he ends up winning only 27 more straight to catch Tiger Woods.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Now he's not even 30 years old, so this could happen, right? Tiger had 37 consecutive Sundays where he woke up with the lead and ended up winning. That's unbelievable.
Boston Conner
He was an assassin.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That's why that red shirt meant something, you know, when that red shirt showed up, it's like this dude's either catching up because Saturday was moving day, okay? So we're either catching up or we're taking the lead. And then Sunday, what are we doing? We're watching this jungle cat prowl this grass and mow down everybody. And it was like he did 37 straight times. Scotty only at 10 now that's he's young, so he's going to have to catch up. But it is crazy once you start putting the Tiger records in, it's like if Scotty's able to do this for another 15 years, okay, there's a chance he can catch him. But that's what golf is. Golf is a very much like a 50 year olds can play professionally. Even shit 60 year olds can Play professionally. It's a good sport whenever it comes to that. Yeah.
Boston Conner
Tiger also had 11 majors at the same age that Scotty is right now. But Tiger, like, when we're talking to.
Pat McAfee
Men, what, 11 majors?
Boston Conner
Yeah, Tiger had 11 at 28. But then he had. You know, he had that decade where, you know, some things happened and he didn't. Like. So Scotty.
Pat McAfee
If Scotty in his 30s, just driver, window, SUV. But Tiger, that glass shattered, hit him in the head from the driver to hit him. Was at a driving range, took the driver back like this, like I did with that. That tv.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
AJ Hawk
Yep.
Boston Conner
I think that's something like that. But Tiger, mentally, like, I feel like Tigers, like, you know, like Kobe, like Jordan, like Tom, like. Like, got. Like Peyton, like, guys that are just. Yes, yes. Wired to be the greatest of all time. I don't. I feel like Scotty's wired like that, and I feel like him trying to get away from golf is better because we've seen runs like this with, like, speed and. And Rory and Brooks and they. Where they won four or five majors. But then, like, it did feel like mentally it got to them, and they. I mean, it took Rory 10 more years, and speed hasn't won again, and Brooks hasn't won again. But it does feel like if I able to get away, I'm gonna admit.
Pat McAfee
Because everything you just talked about, mentally, when I heard him give that answer, just like, that was up. Yeah. I said, I don't know. I don't know if this weekend's the weekend for him. Yeah. Feels like he's thinking about too much. And then it turns out, looking back on it, it's like, nah, he's thinking about the right things. Yeah, he was thinking about all the right things going in.
Darius Butler
I didn't pick one offense.
Pat McAfee
Is he ever gonna lose?
AJ Hawk
I think. And like, you mentioned it earlier, and it's. It's no bullshit. I think you almost.
Pat McAfee
Ha.
AJ Hawk
He almost has to frame it that way because it hasn't been since Tiger where if you see him playing, there's an immediate expectation like, oh, he's gonna win.
Pat McAfee
Like.
AJ Hawk
And you don't get that with anybody else. So it's like, you start to feel that pressure. It's like, hey, if I'm in the field, like, look at the. Look, you. You go on any book, like, his odds to win are so much better than everyone else's. If he's playing in a tournament, the expectation is he might not go wire to wire, but he is winning this tournament. So, like, even if you are as good as he is. Like you could see how that would eventually kind of get to you a little bit.
Pat McAfee
Scotty, we appreciate you. Congrats. Congrats on the open. Now he's a u S. Open away from the grand slam. We assume that'll come at some point. Point this weekend probably.
AJ Hawk
Yep.
Pat McAfee
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Pat McAfee
This past weekend we saw some filthy football. The NFL flag championship took place this weekend and there were some great highlights debuts. Did you see what the boy from the bills did you see what the boy from the bills did? Ladies and gentlemen, Brady von stiller to Sean Finnegan to win the game. Bobbles the snap. Oh shit, he's down there somewhere. Yes, he is. Sean Finnegan goes up to catch the hail Mary. Big win for the bill squad over there at the NFL flag championships. Now there was another highlight right down the sideline. One handed grab. How you doing? Doing. Keep it moving. This is from Jalen Paguero. Give me that fingertip catch. Now a lot of people are saying the gloves are great nowadays. That's not Jalen's fault. No, that is not his fault at all. What a grab. What a snag, what a play. Shout out to Jaylen Paguero. And then the highlight of the weekend, this dude is going to be a West Virginia mountaineer. Bryson Wright, give me that. Of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Liam Cohen is trying to get him on the actual Jacksonville Jaguars. What a catch. Unbelievable. Inverted. Okay, the right hand invert catch is a filthy catch all by itself. If you're standing there playing catch with somebody and you have gloves on or if you're able to do it without gloves, the right handed over top snag will steal the show. Okay, if you do need a good throw to be able to do it, but if you do that just playing catch, people will be like holy shit, what a catch. That's filthy. Because the amount of power you have to have in your hands to beat gravity and the force of it throwing and the dexterity to find the tip of the ball. Yes. I was very good at this one right here because it was holding. You know, that thing's right there always looked much better and harder than it actually was once you figured out how to do it then to dive over a guy for a touchdown while that kid is being thrown from 50 yards or 20 yards, 30 yards away. That's nasty. That is absolutely filthy. This kid's 15, 16 years old.
Boston Conner
15, 16 highlights hit the Internet.
Pat McAfee
This dude is unbelievable. Six, two, what is he?
Darius Butler
I saw six two, 200 pounds, 15.
Pat McAfee
Years old, already holds offers from LSU, Ohio State, Alabama. And I would like to say shout out to Hayes Fawcett, by the way, he does great work on over there. On three, I would like to say Bryson Wright, congrats on scholarship offer from West Virginia University.
AJ Hawk
Wow, a fish.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Official.
AJ Hawk
Okay.
Pat McAfee
I don't know if I could do that. I did not ask Rich Rodriguez if that was cool, coach Rod. But I would like to say, Bryson, you officially have an offer from West Virginia University. Brother, I have no idea what the nil things going to be four years from now when you graduate high school or two years from now when you graduate high school. But just know if you want to come to Morgantown, brother, and do a couple of highs or a couple of those, we'd love to have you sophomore in high school.
Darius Butler
It's crazy.
Pat McAfee
How about that Atkinson? He's going to play high school right now. Yeah, that Atkinson kid that was here. How about Manny over there in Maryland?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Bingo.
Pat McAfee
That offensive lineman. All these guys that we're watching and some of them were lucky enough to be a part of their commitments, which is such a cool thing. These dudes are adults, bro, and they're handling business like adults off the field as well. I have massive respect for this next generation of footballers.
Boston Conner
I saw he led his, his football team last year as a freshman in receiving, in yards. And one of the guy who was in second was a five star who went to I think Texas or Ohio State or something like that this year.
Pat McAfee
So this kid's from Pennsylvania, is he?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, no, he's a mask guy. Moved down.
Pat McAfee
He's from Massachusetts. No, he is not.
Ty Schmidt
He's a mask. I moved down to Florida, I, I believe right after he learned.
Pat McAfee
A.J. what? I mean, think about this. As a sophomore in high. The kid that's on defense. Yeah, right.
Connor
Not even fair to think this kid's going to be playing against high school kids here in a couple weeks.
Ty Schmidt
I mean, the kid covering him in his route plays Left, left tackle for.
Boston Conner
His local Mandarin in Florida.
Pat McAfee
Three guys covered him on that particular play. They all passed off. Smart play. You, you, you, you, you, you, you zoning flag.
Darius Butler
I mean, yeah, if this dude's on the field, zone, double T, whatever the hell you can do. But this is, I mean this is unbelievable. You talked about these and he's not at this point yet, but these young kids sounding and speaking and carrying themselves like grown ass men. We all talked about and expected and everything is blown up about the negative part of the nil. But every young guy that we've kind of come across, whether it's Rider, Lions or Atkinson who was in here, like you're talking to him, you're having a conversation with them. They sound like grown ass dudes.
Pat McAfee
25.
Darius Butler
Well, way mature, more mature than I was at 17 or 18 years old. It's unbelievable.
Pat McAfee
And then you're making plays like that.
Ty Schmidt
That's why the 8th grader scholarship thing, like you, it sounds insane. And then you see some of these kids and what they can do on a football field or you know, on a basketball court, whatever it is. And then it makes sense why these kids get offered 30 scholarships when they're in eighth grade. Because they are clearly head and shoulders.
Pat McAfee
Shout out to the NFL flag championship too. There was highlights all over the place. A lot of great football happening. AJ do the boys play yet? And daughters play. They had a girls tournament as well.
Connor
My daughter wants to play actually. She, she's big into basketball, but yeah, she's played a little bit back when she was younger. But that, I mean girl. We know girls flag football is becoming huge. But obviously boys as well. This is what they do. Like there's high school circuits where you travel around and you have these all star teams, like you're an AAU team going around playing flag football.
Pat McAfee
Great for the game. And the girls high school flag football mission was the super bowl commercial that I was lucky to be a part of. I think it has been commissioned in a lot of states. I think it has been made an official. That's great for the sport. That's great for a lot of these towns. That's great for obviously a whole generation of girls growing up, you know, watching. And I don't want to like, you know, always make it about Taylor Swift, but like Taylor Swift has welcomed a lot of people into football. Having an opportunity to play football, Football as well. At the same time, it's perfect for the sport. And think about what flag football can be. Can be, it can be worldwide. Yeah. All you need some flags.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
It's in the Olympics already. But you're talking about like that can.
Darius Butler
Really on a collegiate level, get scholarship. Yeah, that'll be a thing.
Pat McAfee
Absolutely. It's not going to take over tackle football. That's what every old tackle football fan says. That's what Roger Goodell wants. The NFL. Different. No, no. Different sports. Different sports. Got to keep those things different. We'll continue digitally, YouTube, ESPN plus Disney plus and TikTok live. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice about change their life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Really hit that one. Fresh out of break there.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, big time.
Pat McAfee
It's been a good summer for us.
Darius Butler
Great zone, dude.
Pat McAfee
A lot of. I've seen the tweets in the mentions about you guys used to never take this many days off. We agree. It's been great. Yeah, it has been, hasn't it?
AJ Hawk
Without a doubt.
Pat McAfee
Awesome. Oh, my God. We're living. Yeah, we really are. We are humans right now, aj. It is.
Connor
I saw you hitting good. Hitting bombs on the golf course, actually. Train the putts.
Pat McAfee
Huh?
Connor
Look at you.
Pat McAfee
Where was that, brother? I've been golfing a little bit. I've been golfing a little bit. I play. I played three rounds this year. I hadn't played in two years, obviously, but even having the capability now, three rounds. I played nine holes, I played 13 holes and I played 18 holes. Walk the 18 holes, though.
Darius Butler
Walked 18.
Pat McAfee
Walk 18. You played great. Was given no other option, which interesting little.
Boston Conner
Those nice places tend to do that.
Pat McAfee
No, there was carts.
Boston Conner
Oh, really?
Pat McAfee
The person I was golfing with, I was in a cart. The person I was golfing with, you didn't walk? No. Set up the carts.
Darius Butler
What is that about?
Pat McAfee
The. The person that I was golfing with set up the carts and was like, you guys can use the carts. An immediate alpha type move. It was awesome. It's like, I'll fucking walk. Are you walking? Is that what I just heard? He goes, yes, I'm walking, but you guys use the car. I'm like, I'll walk, dude. He goes, you don't have to. I walk out here, right, every day. I'm like, I will walk. So I walked. And I'll tell you what. Hole 6. Those blisters really started. You know all those shoes. I had J's on too, so. And I've only played three rounds and two years. These things. Not really. I started getting blisters on the feet about sixth hole or so. Legs started getting real lactic acid around like 1340. I mean, you're hiking these.
Boston Conner
Oh, yeah.
Darius Butler
But did you feel warm with the course?
Pat McAfee
I did. And I also played better.
Darius Butler
Okay.
Pat McAfee
And it kept me more locked in.
Boston Conner
Okay.
Pat McAfee
I enjoyed it, actually. I would like to do that every time I golf, but. And it wasn't that long of a round.
Ty Schmidt
That's the thing. We played three hours.
Pat McAfee
We played very fast. It was very, very fast.
Darius Butler
That's the best.
Pat McAfee
It was good, though. It was really. It was. I've been playing Pretty good golf, A.J. pretty good golf. You don't move. I tried to be Scotty Scheffler, but can't be, I guess.
AJ Hawk
No.
Pat McAfee
I just can't be Scotty Scheffler. So I've been keeping the feet still, you know, and that's really changed a lot of my game. Literally all I focus on is don't move your feet. Because last time. You know, because I'm all flexible. I'm out here. Yeah.
AJ Hawk
You know, I'm digging in.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Boston Conner
You're still coming out of the pocket.
Pat McAfee
I'm ready to do it.
Darius Butler
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
What you see is because I watch.
Boston Conner
Are you cow with solid Key was solid.
Pat McAfee
So, so much k shallow I've been watching. I think feel vers real. Two different things. Sure. But I think just osmosis. Watching key with shallow's techniques, I think it's starting to.
Boston Conner
You look like it's Kia shallow.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Thank you.
Darius Butler
I take you over k any day you're playing.
Pat McAfee
Do not.
AJ Hawk
He's a good player.
Pat McAfee
I. I would say.
Darius Butler
Have you seen him play?
Pat McAfee
I've.
AJ Hawk
I played hold with him. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
So you know what? You know what he has that I don't?
Darius Butler
A hammer.
Pat McAfee
Whoa.
Darius Butler
Other gimmicks.
Pat McAfee
How big is Unbelievable. Yeah. I would assume he was shallow. He could throw it over his shoulder. By the way this guy hits the golf ball. I understand. I'm not taking any offense. Unbelievable. But with that being said, he does have a hammer. We can tell by the way up. Yeah. I could tell everything about. There he is with his hammer, actually. And that's small. He's actually pretty comfortable with that in his hands. This guy has helped me out immense just by watching. He should be charging for these videos because that's what I used to do right there. Ever use your hammer like this? Absolutely not. That's not how I swing that thing. Use a hammer like this, he says. And I get the driver in my hands and then bang, baby drop. Just like kiwashalo and gone. See ya.
Boston Conner
Into the night sky.
Pat McAfee
Perfect. Perfect shot. And the reason why I didn't put the tracker on is because that green tree line in the back is the perfect background for that ball to fly perfectly out there. He knows the distance of his clubs. You see, I had a lot of that. We're 107 yards out. I got a 54 in here. I got a W in here. I got a. A 60 degree in here. Where. How far do these go? No idea. Let's find out on the course with real shots. So doing a lot of that do.
Boston Conner
Ear to ear it couple, I thought.
Pat McAfee
To myself, yeah, Keegan Brown, I died a thousand times. Ear to ear, buddy. And I thought to myself, what does full swing go? I have no idea. Ear to ear swing. I have no clue. Just got to play more. Yeah, we don't have. Well, actually, we have had. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
I was gonna say it's been pretty.
Pat McAfee
The way you played. You should play more.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. And you should play with the caddy every time.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Steve was a dog. That was my first time ever playing with a caddy. I. That was awesome. I love that experience. Steve was great. Steve was. Steve was a caddy there. Are we supposed to say the name of the place?
AJ Hawk
I think you can.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Boston Conner
You definitely could.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so we play. Some places are not supposed to.
AJ Hawk
No, this isn't that bad.
Pat McAfee
We should.
Ty Schmidt
That's just one place.
Boston Conner
That's. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
It was the nicest golf course I've ever played in my life. Rivier. We played at Riviera there. Over there in, I think Los Angeles somewhere. Yeah. I have no idea where we were. All I know is everywhere is two hour drive.
Ty Schmidt
Santa Monica, I think it was.
Pat McAfee
I think I put it in the gps. It's in the Palisades area. Okay. Yes. Beautiful course. Yes, very, very, very, very nice course. Very nice course.
Darius Butler
Perfect weather, I assume.
Pat McAfee
Perfect weather. Great sun. I mean, it was a perfect day, to be honest.
Ty Schmidt
A little wind, transfusions.
Pat McAfee
It wasn't busy. Yeah, it was. It was very nice to. Dude. It was very nice.
Ty Schmidt
The dog.
Pat McAfee
And then. You're watching Ari Gold play golf.
Connor
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Pat McAfee
He's playing.
Connor
Yeah. Yeah.
J.J. Watt
That's.
Connor
That's a big one. Oh, is he. I would assume he's very good.
Pat McAfee
Very good. So good.
Ty Schmidt
I think par at that course. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Really?
Connor
Now we just never in trouble. Probably never hits any bad shots, I'm guessing.
Pat McAfee
Just always his driver. He has this, like, really patient swing is what I'll call it. Just like up high and then Boom, right through. 285. Right. Perfect draw with it.
Connor
Okay.
Pat McAfee
285. Yeah. Not a big mayor Tempo Town at all. Yeah. Tempo is his thing. I think that would kind of be it. Yes. And then he gets his iron in his hands. It's like, can't have touch this thing. And then he's two up in it and he's birdie putting basically every hole. Yes. And it's just two butt. It's unbelievable because early wanted to talk. He wanted to talk shit to me. He said I didn't know how to put a ball on a tee because there's a breeze and knocked it off. So then I put the ball back on tee. He goes, you only teach how to put a ball on a tee. I know how to put a ball in a tee. And then I nuked one. Great. Time to nuke one.
Darius Butler
Yep.
Pat McAfee
That was on the first tee there. So that. That held him off for a moment. You know, that held him off. Then he started teaching me how to putt. But we wanted to talk shit to him. I wanted to talk shit to him. That's all I want out there for like, I would like to talk. Couldn't. Never. He had two bad shots, like a par three. He like pulled one into the sand and then put it to like four feet out. Yeah. It was unbelievable. Couldn't even see him. I don't think his little head was. I couldn't even see him out there. Ball comes out. He was unbelievable. He was unbelievable. And I thought about it while he does all these meetings, I assume out there. Oh, yeah. And he just. Because he doesn't really talk, doesn't really talk about how he is a golfer. He's kind of goes about his stuff. Just keeps it moving.
Darius Butler
The good ones.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, exactly. And then all of a sudden you look at it like, what are you? You're one. I'm one under through six. Like, actually, dude, this guy isn't even like no mulligans. Just here we go. Stress free. Yeah. Casual on the phone. Yep. He's doing re Gold.
Boston Conner
Places like that, they sell dogs at the turn.
Ty Schmidt
It was so good.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. We did get some dogs. We did. Juicy, Foxy's dog.
Boston Conner
I ate it the exact same way.
Pat McAfee
Way. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know why there's some big anti ketchup narrative going on. From Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, the home of Heinz.
AJ Hawk
Sure.
Pat McAfee
The most delightful and delicious thing.
Boston Conner
57 flavors on Earth. Ingredients.
Pat McAfee
Put it on everything. I heard somebody say 57. 57 different somethings.
Ty Schmidt
Condominium.
Pat McAfee
Condiments. Natural things. Condiments is ketchup. I heard somebody say, I love ketchup. I put it on everything. Eggs, put it on chicken, put it on sandwiches, yada yada. And then the person said, I would never put it on my hot dog though, ever. And I'm like, what the are you talking about? Why would you not. Why do they do that? Yeah, what is it? I don't understand why that's such a big deal. Why is that such a big deal?
Connor
I think foodies, people that are foodies claim like, oh, ketchup. Oh, you're so basic. You're a loser. That's what it's is.
Pat McAfee
How many? How many on your tweet?
Ty Schmidt
I think it's like half a million. I. I grew up as the strictly ketchup like you guys did. But then once I tried the ketchup and mustard.
Darius Butler
That's my.
Ty Schmidt
I assume that's why. Because it is better with both.
Boston Conner
Well, you could do one. Yeah, but I do ketchup.
Ty Schmidt
But I did see the, the outrage strictly about the ketchup which was just so.
Pat McAfee
Connor just put foxy into the fire. Yeah. Puts ketchup only on hot dog. Thoughts. And then a beautiful photo of our photo of our H and M model right there. Just. Did you know what was happening with this picture? I had no clue what he was.
Boston Conner
You knew.
Ty Schmidt
I actually just took this for us cuz we were having a conversation and then as soon as I looked at the photo I was like, I got it.
Pat McAfee
World's got to say, I'm not lying. I just legit turned around and then he's like, hold the hot dog up. Conor immediately said, goes, it's going platinum. That's what that is what he thinks. So I'd say the number one take way that everyone was saying is that it's like what five year olds do. And like I grew up my entire life, I had no. I thought the most American thing you could do is put ketchup on a hot dog. This was. I learned all of this from this tweet. There were so many people calling me a five. It's got to be Chicago people, right?
Ty Schmidt
That's it.
Pat McAfee
Just hating against Pittsburgh. Is that why you guys want your own thing? Like we got the hot dog. And then people from Pittsburgh are like, we make it much better in Chicago's like. I think the propaganda goes more is we just put mustard and relish. We have a Chicago dog. We don't really call out people for having ketchup. I think it was a lot of Chicago people probably, if I had to guess, calling out for the most part with that being said, shout out to Chicago people. I got no problem with Chicago people. But I do think, like, just having an argument that something that makes everything better isn't good on a hot dog just doesn't make any sense to me. I'm from Pittsburgh, though.
Darius Butler
You're an. You put ketchup on your egg.
Boston Conner
So I agree.
Ty Schmidt
See, I don't think.
Boston Conner
Absolutely doesn't belong.
Pat McAfee
Are you serious?
Darius Butler
That's so. That is terrible, dude.
Pat McAfee
You order six scrambled eggs with the cheese inside the scrambled. Now, American, if available. But some places you go to, they're not gonna have American cheese, which I don't love. Yes. So cheddar is automatically the alternative. And he says, cheddar. Okay. You go, do you have American? It's America. And they say, no, we only have cheddar. That'll do, I guess. And then they put the cheddar in there. Okay. Then that thing comes out, and you just go ahead and you put a big blob of ketchup right there on the side of it. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
And you dip.
Pat McAfee
You dip. It's gross.
Boston Conner
I'm a believer ketchup doesn't belong on breakfast food.
AJ Hawk
What about, like, homestyle potatoes?
Pat McAfee
Hash browns. Okay. You don't do ketchup on hash browns.
Boston Conner
And I love ketchup.
Pat McAfee
You're telling me McDonald's hash brown comes in. In that little bag.
Boston Conner
That thing is so good by itself. It doesn't need anything.
Darius Butler
It is agreed.
Pat McAfee
You can eat it raw if you'd like.
Boston Conner
I'm sure I would love it with ketchup, but I've just always had a rule. It doesn't belong at the breakfast table.
Pat McAfee
Oh, See, I'd like to wake my day up with Heinz. I will put.
Boston Conner
I get that.
Pat McAfee
I. And I respect hot sauce, too. You do hot sauce on eggs? Oh, yeah.
Ty Schmidt
No, for sure, I do not.
Pat McAfee
Hot sauce on eggs with ketchup. Kachat sauce on everything that's available, including the Dino nugs that my daughter loves.
Darius Butler
If you got some good eggs, they don't need anything. It's like a good steak. Like, you don't put. Well, you know, A1 Sauce.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Kirk Herbstreet was certainly. Certainly heal. Excuse me, do you got the.
AJ Hawk
Well, he has to, though, because he orders his steaks medium well, if I remember correctly.
Boston Conner
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Because him and the dogs are eating the same.
Ty Schmidt
Eat it with applesauce. Yeah.
AJ Hawk
Well, Right. No. Yeah, it is well done.
Pat McAfee
Excuse me. Well, well, yeah. Hi. Me, Peter, Theo, Mitch. We need steak.
Ty Schmidt
We'll all take.
Pat McAfee
Can we get some A12? And also, don't tell the chef. Little Ketchup. I'll order fries if I have to. You got fries? Ketchup?
Darius Butler
Of course, yeah.
Pat McAfee
Oh, okay. Of course.
Darius Butler
On the side, I'm the same way.
Connor
What about nugs? What about nugs? Do you dip in nugs? And ketchup, I hope.
Darius Butler
No nugs.
Pat McAfee
Kachat sauce. You put a circle of Heinz, okay? Circle.
Boston Conner
Hines, good ketchup noise.
Pat McAfee
Frank's in the middle of that dump it, fill up the volcano. Okay. Then we Heinz on top of it. Then you go ahead and take a little fork, spoon, whatever, stirring it. We whip that thing. Now you got Kachat sauce. Welcome to heaven, brother. Now you got those dino nugs going right down in there. And all of a sudden, it's the greatest, that is. I sent an email to Hines. I think I was in high school. You'd have to ask my dad what year it was. He found the email for me, told him, I got an idea. I got an idea. You guys are good. Not great. We can make you great Kachat sauce Senate. And then like two years, three years later, they had a fucking full line of. We got green ketchup, we got purple ketchup, we got hot sauce ketchup. We got all this. It's like, of course they thought of it way ahead of me. I wasn't the first person to ever think of that. But what I'm saying is I felt like Bobby Flay whenever I started that. It still holds up. Still holds up. Okay, you should try it.
Darius Butler
I'll try it. Sure.
Ty Schmidt
There are mayo and ketchup also.
Pat McAfee
Oh, fancy sauce. Oh, my God.
Connor
Disgusting.
Pat McAfee
What?
Connor
Yeah, it's gross.
Boston Conner
Oh, he doesn't, like, give it to Kaboli.
Ty Schmidt
Shut up, Mark.
Connor
I'm not. I'm not the target audience.
Pat McAfee
I get.
Connor
That's why I'm not jumping in.
Pat McAfee
But you. Yeah, yeah. You don't eat anything, so I don't need to hear.
Connor
No, I do. I just. I like plain stuff. I like ketchup on hot dogs, for sure. Hot dog ketchup only nugs. I'm definitely dipping them in ketchup. But eggs. No eggs. Straight up.
Pat McAfee
Okay, well, that's kind of.
Ty Schmidt
I mean, that's tough to argue with.
Pat McAfee
Do you use hot sauce for anything?
Connor
I do more now. The older I get, I would say I'm into hot sauce.
Pat McAfee
What? Yeah. Do you do plain. No. You do plain wings, don't you?
Connor
No, I'll get. I mean, I'll get, you know. No, I get hot sauce.
Pat McAfee
Dry rub. You do dry rub? You say, give me a little Bit of that local driver.
Connor
I'll eat them if they're. If they're there. Those are good, but no, I want them, you know, hot, medium to hot.
Pat McAfee
Well, we had some little lemon pepper fresh out of wing stop on the flight. Oh, that was very good.
Ty Schmidt
Driver up too, right?
Pat McAfee
I think that one.
Boston Conner
They were just plain.
Ty Schmidt
Those are so good.
Pat McAfee
They were very good.
AJ Hawk
Actually.
Pat McAfee
I'm a franks guy. Over all the other hot sauces. Same Tabasco, a little bit too watery. I guess every place has their own hot sauce. Give me the franks. Give me the franks till I die.
Boston Conner
Nick always steals the cholas or whatever they're called.
Gumpy
Not anymore.
Pat McAfee
Who is it?
Gumpy
Cholula.
Pat McAfee
Cholula, that was started in, like, a guy's basement, I think if I do.
Darius Butler
Recall, it's the Mexican one.
Boston Conner
All. All the great ones are.
Pat McAfee
It's good at it. Yeah, it was great basement, I guess.
Gumpy
For brewing that stuff.
Pat McAfee
That had a good run. I think cholula had a really good run. That was during Fireball. Whiskey run, too.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, probably.
Gumpy
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
If I think. If I'm recalling at the same time, I think I met Mr. Cholula and Fireball.
Ty Schmidt
Mr. Fireball, Mr. Ball.
Darius Butler
They were together.
Pat McAfee
I think so.
Ty Schmidt
If my memory might be the same.
Pat McAfee
Person, I think so. Was it chal. A whiskey? I'm 100% sure. Anyways, ketchup deserves and belongs on a goddamn hot dog. Thank you.
Connor
You like relish, Pat? You like relish on a hot dog?
Pat McAfee
I'll do it.
Boston Conner
What?
Connor
I'm not a relish guy at all. I think you. You're the into relish or you're not?
Pat McAfee
No, I'm not into relish.
Ty Schmidt
I hate relish.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But I would do it if said.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Pat McAfee
You got to remember, I went to Plum community days, okay, where hot dog guy who was an artist. This guy was an artist. I helped him set up his rig every single year. No questions. He was great. Tip, tap, tip.
Boston Conner
He goes.
Connor
What about a hamburger, though? Put ketchup on a hamburger, right? Or cheeseburger, I hope you.
Pat McAfee
I hope.
Connor
Put ketchup on a cheeseburger.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yes.
AJ Hawk
He just said he ketchup on everything. What do you mean?
Pat McAfee
Do you even have anymore? You just have little thin steaks with cheese on top of. On top of it. That's what you. You don't even have a burger anymore.
Connor
Oh, no. I love. I love a cheeseburger by putting ketchup on it. No question.
Pat McAfee
Are you putting that in a wrap or are you putting a lettuce wrap? What are you Doing?
Connor
I'll either eat it on a bun or I'll get, like, four hamburgers and just put ketchup all over all of them. Eat them with a fork.
Pat McAfee
Oh, like a meatloaf.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, that is like.
Connor
Yeah, meatloaf. I'm not touching meatloaf.
Ty Schmidt
That's disgusting.
Pat McAfee
Well, ketchup on meatloaf, by the way, that's a whole nother. That's actually one of the main ingredients of meatloaf. You said you're not touching meatloaf.
Connor
Meatloaf. I will not touch. And don't worry. I'm sure you're gonna tell me, oh, my mom or my aunt is the best ever. Well, congrats.
Pat McAfee
I don't want my. My mom. My mom didn't start cooking until recently.
Boston Conner
Cheeseburger in shape of a loaf.
Pat McAfee
It's literally what it is. Wait, ketchup?
Connor
No, it's a bunch of weird, nasty stuff in there. It's just nasty.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Never been a meatloaf guy.
Darius Butler
Yeah.
Jamie Kennedy
If it's cooked right, it's good. No, it's got to be cooked right.
Ty Schmidt
I've only had it once.
Gumpy
I'm with you, gums.
Jamie Kennedy
Well, so a.
Connor
Everyone takes so much pride in their own meatloaf. No, you don't try my meatloaf. Well, I don't.
Boston Conner
People, if it's cooked right, it's good.
Connor
Good turds cooked right don't taste good.
Pat McAfee
Meatloaf is not a turd, bub.
Darius Butler
Similar.
Connor
It's may as well be.
Boston Conner
It's all your favorite things I watch.
Pat McAfee
How about this, aj? Go ahead, please.
Boston Conner
Ground beef, egg, onion, milk, and seasonings like salt, pepper.
Connor
Got milk in there?
Pat McAfee
Okay, I'm out now. I didn't know milk was in there. Count me out on meatloaf. I didn't know. I smother it in gravy. I just smother it in ketchup every time. I love. Tastes so good.
Ty Schmidt
Love ketchup.
Pat McAfee
Just a thought of milk and meat. I don't want to do it.
Darius Butler
Sure, Bobby Joe.
Pat McAfee
Sloppy toes. You know, I watched a guy order a bucket of mashed potatoes for dinner at a. Like, a five star steakhouse the other night. Friday night, they loaded just. No, just butter. Bucket of potatoes. That's it. Nothing else? Potatoes. Serving spoon as his utensil. That's real. This is a really nice. It was. It's one of the greatest things I've ever seen in my entire life. Thought the waiter forgot something. Held up eating. Then I watch person take serving spoon and fucking dive right into that Thing and start mixing it up and. Is that your meal?
Darius Butler
I'd have a beer with that guy.
Pat McAfee
This is my meal.
Boston Conner
Is there any chives on there?
Pat McAfee
Had sour cream. Ask somebody else to take it off. Sure had somebody else take it off. Great move. Great move. You want some sour cream?
Ty Schmidt
How much sour cream? It was so much baseball.
Pat McAfee
It was like one scoop. Pretty much, it was a bucket. So you gotta have it in proportions. It was a scoop of sour cream. On top of that. He wants to watch. Take some. Hand it over. Take off the sour cream, bring it back. Serving spoons, the mouth. This is your meal. Don't you worry about my food, Pat? Well, I am a little bit. Is it. Is this is the whole table eating from this or just you? This is my meal. Stop talking about my food. You know that man was John Halliburton. That was Tyrese Halliburton's dad. He is the most electrifying human I have ever encountered. I've never got a chance to hang out with him. I got to hang out with him at the WNBA contest night hour, 15 minute show. Did not expect that. So we still had some time. We go get dinner across the street at prime shot to prime. Setting us up in his, like, back room area more. So shut up. Set up Tyrese for sure. Especially for him to roll in there, but that's kind of his place. And I sat right next to John Halliburton and I laughed for two hours straight. I mean, I. Yeah, you can definitely. Here's. Here's me and him. We. He is the man. I cannot. They need to apologize to this man now. They need. Instead of kicking him out, you know, they have me on the microphone some of these games. The NBA should have him on a microphone full time, whole game. He should be miked up for every single espn. This guy's fucking unbelievable. That's his. Can we zoom in on that photo? That's just a tub of mashed potatoes, nothing else. That's his meal.
Connor
Big old spoon. Yeah. You can see that's a serving spoon.
Pat McAfee
Serving spoon, yeah. So I asked the waiter. I go, just. Can you clarify something? Why did you put a serving spoon? He goes, don't talk. Don't stop asking this man. This guy John, as I'm doing this, why'd you give him a serving spoon? Why'd you do that? And he goes, well, I thought obviously it was for the whole table. Of course you did. Everybody thought that. Even the guy that was bringing food. He said, don't you worry about what I'm I'm not worried about what you're eating. I'm like, I'm eating chicken parmesan. This is standing. He is. This guy is the greatest. I'm so thankful I got to sit next to him. Weapon, dude. Weapon. Got a chance to chat more about the entire situation that happened.
Ty Schmidt
Of course.
Pat McAfee
Obviously wasn't thrilled about how it all went. Didn't like, you know, doesn't love that that's the attention towards Tyrese, but he does have a side, you know, definitely has his side of things on. On everything. I love him. They need him. They need John next year to maybe dress for the basement.
AJ Hawk
That's not a bad idea.
Connor
Maybe at least. At least warm up like Romo did that one game.
Pat McAfee
Do that, hit a couple of these.
Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Doesn't swear, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke. Never has. None of it. Has the confidence of a, I don't know, 25 year old prize fighter. Okay.
Darius Butler
He ran up on Yanis.
Pat McAfee
He did not. He. If he. If he was to explain just standing there, the story. He didn't even know. I didn't. He was just in his zone. You know, he was in his zone. You always happened to be there, then there was a whole situation. You know, everybody. He's the man. Tyrese will be in here tomorrow. Hopefully, John will stop. Yeah. Please, Mr. Halliburton, if you're coming by, we will have a bathtub of mashed potatoes. Leave that man alone, Pat. John told me about a couple things.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. And he's right.
Boston Conner
He is right.
Pat McAfee
I said, john, I'm a Murray's guy. This guy deserves to get married. Murdered. Leave that man alone, Pat. Thank you, John. I needed to hear that, actually.
AJ Hawk
Well said.
Pat McAfee
That is very, very good. I am proud of me. Obviously, I tweeted it publicly because I. I just wanted it to be out there. Like, hey, there was another war that was averted.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Is that a word? Yeah. So I just want to let people know, hey, this is growth.
Darius Butler
It would have been a war evolving.
Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
There would have been people on his. I mean, it's just. You just. I'm dropping into a.
AJ Hawk
It's kind of more of like a public execution, though.
Ty Schmidt
Bug, windshield.
Pat McAfee
The boys did see everything I was gonna say, too, about who I was gonna say it was some of my finer work, not my greatest. I have some emails that are better, but these. These, you know, it's pretty.
Connor
It's pretty good. It's pretty good.
Pat McAfee
Thank you. I felt pretty good about it. Yeah. I took. I had time. I had time. Baby girl was sleeping. I was home alone. Wife was out of town, just kind of hanging there. It was from some time ago. And I was like, I didn't know this happened. Sending in the group. What's this? What's this? What is this all about? Get some intel. Is that right? Let me go ahead and see if this is who I think it is. Yep. That guy's messaged me a lot, asking for a lot. Can't be that guy. Let me go back. Same guy. Sure is interesting. Let me learn about this guy. He doesn't think I have time. 45 minutes, deep dive into this guy's life. This guy has no idea how much I know about him. Can't wait to run into him. And it's like, yeah, all right, you said your piece. Now I believe I should probably stick up for myself. Had an X version. Had an Instagram Stories version. Had an Instagram post version. Okay, really put some time into this Threads. I'll do the threads.
Ty Schmidt
It's automatic.
Boston Conner
600 million posts.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I was gonna say everybody is.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. People are saying threat. I saw a post saying threads has more active users than X. Yeah, 2 billion. Wow.
Darius Butler
Boom.
Boston Conner
Trillion. Actually.
Ty Schmidt
Excuse me.
Pat McAfee
That doesn't feel real, does it? I saw Dana holding microphone that said threads. That might have been a part of his deal with Zuckerberg. So maybe Threads is becoming. Didn't have a Threads. Was gonna make a TikTok, was gonna record a video, have talk, kind of piece it together. And I didn't. I said, you know what? Today's not the day. Send them all the drafts. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. I put my phone down so people were allowed to feel the way they feel. And I walked a little bit further. I said, I'm allowed to feel how I fucking wanna. I don't know. It's a good summer. We're having a blast.
Connor
Boom.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Shout out to the MLB Blast.
AJ Hawk
Shout out.
Pat McAfee
Shout out to the Espies. Shout out. That was a good time. Yeah. Did we have more fun than anybody else at the esp?
Darius Butler
Certainly, yes. Great, great time. But in Atlanta, mlb, like, my favorite part and I forgot about this was Ty, you know, not. Not forgetting about the kids, like, you know, heading to the field, you know, that point back, coming back, signing autograph for, you know, who knows how long. I mean, good old you, man. First allstar. Congratulations.
AJ Hawk
Well, you know, we're just trying to grow it for the next generation. You know what I mean? Who am I to be? You know, I was obviously trying to take everything in myself. My First All Star experience. But I thought, how special, you know, for one of these kids, you know, who's been waiting all day so far.
Pat McAfee
Back in my library, I'm trying to scroll back and find it right now. Kids so much since that was me.
AJ Hawk
And I said, you know what? I ain't gonna. I ain't gonna leave these kids standing here.
Pat McAfee
I'm walking behind Ty as he's about to make his way onto the field for the first time, dressed in his full regalia. And I just wanted to get him jogging on the field because I knew he was probably going to skip up over top of the the chalk and everything. And instead what I caught was just absolute magic. True moment in time, true MLB magic. I just texted it to you, Zito, so you can pull this up, kiss.
Darius Butler
And never forget it ever.
Pat McAfee
You know, they talk about. A lot of people say, like I remember Mickey Mantle stopped and said hello, Ken Griffey Jr. And inspired me to become a professional athlete and treat people the right way. Well, Ty, you're kind of. You're kind of becoming that guy. Maybe for an entire legion of baseball fans with how you acted as an MLB All Star. And I know that there was some. Some blowback by the baseball purists for us. Sure. I think this video right here will kind of put it all at ease. We're trying to get back to the game. How about you, kid?
Ty Schmidt
Come on, get over.
Pat McAfee
Come here. I'll sign your ball, I guess. Mr. Schmidt. Mr. Schmidt.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Mr. Schmidt.
Ty Schmidt
Go Yankees.
Pat McAfee
Mr. Schmidt. That's all they kept saying. Mr. Schmidt. A lot of that.
Boston Conner
I saw one of those things. $8,000 for a signed Tasha.
AJ Hawk
So I tell you what. A couple of those, when I was signing them, I saw some of the other signatures on there. I was like, oh, God damn, show me. I really shouldn't, but hey, guess what?
Boston Conner
They're.
AJ Hawk
I'mma play the part. They think I'm an All Star. I'mma do it.
Pat McAfee
Hey, now. Yeah, exactly.
Boston Conner
Allar.
Pat McAfee
Sign the baseball.
AJ Hawk
Yep.
Pat McAfee
Go play. That's what he did. Didn't we?
AJ Hawk
We did.
Pat McAfee
Then they saw us out on the field. Those kids. What? Yeah.
AJ Hawk
What are these guys doing?
Boston Conner
No, they wouldn't have asked if they didn't want it.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they didn't know who he was. We were coming right from the clubhouse. Yeah, I mean, it was a setup for those kids. Hey, no hope.
AJ Hawk
No. Without a doubt.
Pat McAfee
You had the hat on the whole thing. They might thought maybe you're manager clubhouse.
Boston Conner
Was the music still playing in there?
Pat McAfee
Did the AO win Or lose.
Ty Schmidt
They lost.
Boston Conner
They lost the swing short.
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah. Cuz we talked. We need the swing off.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Okay. I re my take if it goes more than one extra inning.
Boston Conner
Okay.
Ty Schmidt
Swing then swing.
Boston Conner
I like that.
Pat McAfee
Have a tenth inning.
AJ Hawk
Okay.
Boston Conner
Of baseball gives the purists what they want.
Pat McAfee
Then let's go to the swing off. And I think we only do two. I don't think we do three guys. I think it's two guys. One of them hits three times, one of them hits two times. Best of five.
Darius Butler
Well, not one guy.
Ty Schmidt
I, I, I like one swing. I think that was because both. Because both guys you would assume could hit or both most likely miss. So then it's like okay, we yeah, we know we're making it same guy.
Pat McAfee
Like Olympics with T.J. yoshi.
Ty Schmidt
Bingo.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Like it's swing for swing.
Pat McAfee
Or do you go. You have to go to a next battle. You have to line up who the batter is. Like soccer.
Ty Schmidt
No, just one regular. Just one batter.
Boston Conner
Regular season hockey is how one, one.
Pat McAfee
Swing, three guys, one swing per guy. That's what you think?
Boston Conner
Three guys?
Ty Schmidt
I think one guy, one swing. Let's.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but then it's over before it even.
AJ Hawk
And you run into the potential of it being so anticlimactic if you do that.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it could be over so quick. But I mean we want to best of three. Best of five, don't you think?
Ty Schmidt
I suppose. Personally, I think no matter what, if they make the change, they'll do like just exactly what the NHL does which is once it gets to the playoffs, the most meaningful stuff, they'll get rid of it and they'll just do extras no matter what.
AJ Hawk
Oh yeah. That's definitely not doing that in the playoffs.
Pat McAfee
World Series. Yeah. Game seven swing on Shohei versus Judge.
AJ Hawk
That'd be sick. But that is never going to happen.
Pat McAfee
Well, that'd be the asterisk. The first time ever.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, you're right.
Pat McAfee
Dominant off champ.
Darius Butler
I wouldn't want that in the playoffs.
Ty Schmidt
In the playoffs.
Darius Butler
Regular season for sure.
Ty Schmidt
I think the one will be in the playoffs. I mean they don't care about the climactic.
Pat McAfee
It would be so sick though to watch best of three. We would all watch. Oh yeah.
AJ Hawk
Oh yeah, for sure.
Pat McAfee
I think we would all watch.
Boston Conner
Next would come into the group say hey, so and so's in a swing off right now.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Dong off happening.
Ty Schmidt
We don't see the highlight.
Pat McAfee
We would watch. We would talk about about the clip the next day.
Ty Schmidt
For 1000% the clip would be massive.
Pat McAfee
Just as somebody that's New to baseball, becoming a fan of baseball. You guys are already making changes in the rules anyways.
Ty Schmidt
I'm getting all the socks games.
Pat McAfee
I'm going to get into it like 13 innings. Do. Is that good? Is that fun?
AJ Hawk
No, no. I mean that's. That, that is like. That's why they put guys on second base now to start extras.
Pat McAfee
Because they don't want a gimmick.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, they don't want.
Pat McAfee
You guys are already doing gimmicks. You're already. You, you guys put the person on second base. Ghost runner on second, which sucks. Okay. Does. It's.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
So you're already doing gimmicks. If we're going to do gimmicks, let's do fun gimmick.
Ty Schmidt
Here's a better one.
Pat McAfee
Boom. Banging a pile. Have one inning, extra inning. Do your thing. Do the baseball.
Ty Schmidt
Good luck.
Pat McAfee
Hope. Hope somebody wins.
Ty Schmidt
Go score.
Pat McAfee
But then best of three, one swing per each. I think is the right play.
AJ Hawk
I like it.
Jamie Kennedy
Maybe two. And it's.
Pat McAfee
Whoa, Gumps. I'm just saying two hours and. Right.
Jamie Kennedy
I'm just saying though, as like purists, I think if you said two innings, they. They take the bait on two.
Pat McAfee
If you go one.
Jamie Kennedy
If you go one, I think they. They'd still be pissed off.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Four outs, one inning.
Ty Schmidt
I like that.
Jamie Kennedy
I don't mind.
Boston Conner
Good.
Jamie Kennedy
That's a win.
Pat McAfee
Okay. 4. You guys already doing it. You got the ghost man on second.
Ty Schmidt
Purists can't be pissed about four outs in one.
Pat McAfee
No way. We gave him more than it is. That's cool.
Boston Conner
That is cool.
Pat McAfee
How about pitcher has to throw alternate hand.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Other.
Boston Conner
Or pitcher is not allowed to throw any breaking balls.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Boston Conner
Gotta be awesome.
Pat McAfee
Falls right down the fastball. Does the other person have to throw? No.
Ty Schmidt
No more strike zone.
Boston Conner
You know what?
Pat McAfee
Forget the pitcher.
Jamie Kennedy
Put it on a tee.
Gumpy
Let him swing away.
Pat McAfee
Would guys hit dongs off tees? Yes.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. That's a fair question.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
The speed coming in.
Boston Conner
I was gonna.
Ty Schmidt
I also, also, I thought he was gonna say no.
Connor
Dude.
AJ Hawk
If you put a ball on a tee at home plate, judge would hit it 9,000ft.
Ty Schmidt
Judge. But.
Pat McAfee
But that's our guy. Most guys, he wears a size 15 shoe.
AJ Hawk
Most guys would.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Pat McAfee
Most guys would be able to take it out.
Darius Butler
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Very far.
AJ Hawk
I would assume so.
Pat McAfee
Yes.
AJ Hawk
Hitting a ball off a tee. These guys do so much tea work. So much tea work.
Pat McAfee
So that's a dumb question. Yeah.
AJ Hawk
I mean certainly for a non baseball person.
Ty Schmidt
Not a dub class.
Pat McAfee
I assumed. I assumed they needed the velocity. Dang. And then the bp. They're still throwing. They're not. Do adults hit off tee?
Connor
They do in practice all the time in the majors. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Do they?
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
Darius Butler
I didn't know.
Connor
Big, big deal.
Pat McAfee
I've never seen it. We need to start doing that for next year.
Darius Butler
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
We need to start getting on the goddamn te.
Ty Schmidt
We need to bring it.
Pat McAfee
We need to start throwing some. Yeah. See if they can do it.
Ty Schmidt
See if they can do it.
Pat McAfee
All right, boys, who can do it? Right before the Home Run Derby starts, boys, take a second to see if you can hit a dong off of this goddamn tee.
Ty Schmidt
The Tea Derby.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we're trying to find out. Those dudes were sweet over there. Yeah. Yankees have a game tonight?
AJ Hawk
Yes.
Pat McAfee
What's up, Yankees?
AJ Hawk
Big one in Toronto.
Pat McAfee
Good to see you dudes.
AJ Hawk
Well, who knows because they're in Toronto. So they might be watching on Sportsnet today and not.
Pat McAfee
No, they watch on YouTube probably, right? I believe so you can catch the.
Jamie Kennedy
Naughty language show plays on TSN in Canada.
AJ Hawk
Oh, does it?
Jamie Kennedy
The sports network?
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I didn't know that.
Boston Conner
I believe ESPN owns them.
Jamie Kennedy
They do not.
Boston Conner
No.
Darius Butler
Who owns the Rogers?
Pat McAfee
Who gave permission? Hold on, I have a question. Still to this day, right now, I'm.
Jamie Kennedy
Pretty sure a lot of people watch on tsn. Back off.
Pat McAfee
Can't wait to meet you people. Tsa.
AJ Hawk
Well, no wonder the Canada stuff got.
Pat McAfee
So loud after they know I exist up there. Yeah, Golly.
AJ Hawk
Shoved down their throats the next day.
Pat McAfee
Oh, great, we got to listen to the. Hey, buddy, the American's on TV again. Jesus Christ. You think there was a chance old retired Trudeau was watching our show the next day? I got to say. So he'll be.
Ty Schmidt
Now he's watching other stuff.
Pat McAfee
Well, now he's retired. Speaking of retirement, retired Washington football team name was retired. Will the commanders be just another. Oh, you remember when your president, AJ Made a statement about the Washington whatevers. How do you feel? How do you feel about it? I mean, this is.
Connor
I don't know. Have we ever seen a president before, like, dip his toe into the NFL waters on what a team should be named?
Pat McAfee
Yes. And the reason why we know that is because there is a pre presidential Donald Trump tweet saying, shouldn't do that. President shouldn't be doing that. Because President Obama at the time was, I believe, talking about the name of the Washington football team. So I. Yeah, there has been a little bit of dancing, I guess. And this is a wild thing, especially if the stadium stuff gets held up. You Know, and obviously the art of the deal. President Trump is a deal maker. That's kind of his entire thing. Everybody saying why he got a rich dad. It's like, okay, a lot of people have rich dads.
Boston Conner
You're fired.
Pat McAfee
A lot of people have rich dads. He's been able to make deals, I think, throughout his entire life is kind of his thing now. Do all of them withstand or whatever it is? I don't know. I guess the. I think not. I think there's some deals that happen then don't happen, and then I think that causes a lot of problems. I think some people get real happy, some people get real mad, and then they just kind of build like this, and it's. And that's politics. Yeah, I think that's how it works. But I think he can probably withhold fund. I, I, I don't know. I don't know all the ins and outs of being a president. He won't. All right. Debut says he won't.
Darius Butler
Politics. Jews just yapping.
Ty Schmidt
Plus back. I think a president that's on truth.
Pat McAfee
Social truth.
Darius Butler
Are you on there?
Pat McAfee
I do not have an account over there.
Boston Conner
That's where you sent me the link for.
Darius Butler
They're probably battling with threads, I would assume.
Pat McAfee
Well, 600 million active users on threads. You know, Facebook's become interesting because I'll post on Instagram or we'll post on Instagram, and it posts on my Facebook that I don't have to log in for over there. And then my mom would tell me she saw me on Facebook, and I'm like, what did you see, Mom? I think she's like, your post is on Facebook. And I'm like, holy. It is over there.
Ty Schmidt
Threads, too.
Pat McAfee
Really?
Jamie Kennedy
I get only post. Only post threads.
Pat McAfee
Only posts go to not reals. Reels go to Facebook.
Jamie Kennedy
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
What? And my mom saw some. Something we posted on Instagram on Facebook. And I'm like, mom, I think somebody's ripping my. You know, you should continue to tell me about that. She goes, is this your account? I haven't been in there in years.
AJ Hawk
My God.
Pat McAfee
Holy Zuck figured out my password and connected us. How's that whole thing go? So then you got to go into what email I had that goes back to my West Virginia email.
AJ Hawk
I think things have been deactivated for 15 years.
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. What alternate email could it have been?
Darius Butler
It's crazy.
Pat McAfee
And then at the time, what was my favorite drink? Yeah, what was I at the time? That might have been a Roman Coke, though.
Darius Butler
Incredible Hulk.
Pat McAfee
I'll Tell you what, that one really put some people to bet. Hypnotic in Hennessy, right?
Connor
Hell yeah.
Pat McAfee
I'll take the Incredible Hulk. Are you sure? Always follow it up there. Yeah. Well done. Make that thing green thing. The color of the hypnotic. How do they do that?
Darius Butler
Interesting color, right? Dye poise.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's really bright. Like really bright. Looks so cool.
Ty Schmidt
Some sort of ooze.
Pat McAfee
What is that up there?
AJ Hawk
Probably is some sort of ooze.
Pat McAfee
What is that nectar up there that is glowing up there? Well, we can actually put this together with Hennessy and really up your whole night.
AJ Hawk
Done.
Ty Schmidt
Do it.
Pat McAfee
Give me that one. What was the other one? The four shots?
Ty Schmidt
The four.
AJ Hawk
Four horsemen.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That was terrible.
Boston Conner
Jack, Jose.
Ty Schmidt
That's Jim.
Boston Conner
Jim.
Pat McAfee
And that's when you knew you walked into enemy territory. You know, you walked in there, somebody goes, hey Pat, good to see you. Let me buy you some stuff. Send you down there. It's like, oh, this place hates me. Got it. You guys trying to make me.
Boston Conner
I went to a place that had a wheel. You just spun it. That was one of the options. And if it happened, it just happened.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but there are some other good options.
Boston Conner
There was a couple good ones, there's a couple real bad ones.
Pat McAfee
Those days were crazy young. This generation has no idea what it used to be like. You're right. The cameras on the phones, I think change everything. Everybody's kind of a little bit more docile. Used to be wild world out there.
Ty Schmidt
They do other ridiculous.
Pat McAfee
Still is a wild world. It's not going to twist. You can get punched in the face shot, all that stuff. I'm not saying you can't, but I'm just talking about like going out. That just changed immediately.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, they do other like the galaxy gas, all that. Like they have a whole.
Pat McAfee
What's that? Nitrous?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I. I don't even know what it is.
AJ Hawk
It's like computer duster or some. Isn't it?
Ty Schmidt
It's insane.
Pat McAfee
It's their form of nitrous.
AJ Hawk
I think so.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we have that too. Yeah, it's fine. That's like a 30 second thing you should not be killing brain cells with.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, you guys had it but you didn't have a phone that added like the. Oh, do the most ever and we'll get it on camera and post it. It'll be cool.
Pat McAfee
It means anything. I was trying every time to break every record.
Boston Conner
I don't know. You seen sticks clicking around, bumpers?
Pat McAfee
What's that?
Boston Conner
You ever see the video? Video Stevo clinking around?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying though. Like. Like with the Stevo era, you're going. You're buying a specific camera video recorder. Now it's more so like, hey, everyone's got one. So if you think you can do something absurd, let's film it and see.
Pat McAfee
You can make a business out of it.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
And you can get a good business out. You can become a millionaire.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
I don't know if I would have survived.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. And you can die.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That's part I think would have got me because those incredible hawks. I mean, can you chuck four of these? Yeah. Can you chug four of these in a minute or whatever? It's like. We're gonna try. We're gonna try this entire thing.
Darius Butler
Good nights.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And terrible mornings. Yeah.
Connor
Drink strong Islands. We used to get pictures of strong.
AJ Hawk
Oh yeah.
Pat McAfee
Love.
Connor
There's. There's a lot that goes into those. You feel really good the next day after you chug those.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And why do they taste so good? They're always like, this one's got 10 shots in it. It's. Hold on, wait.
Darius Butler
What's the strongest?
Boston Conner
I think it's cuz we were young.
Darius Butler
Ingredient.
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
Darius Butler
I didn't know.
Connor
Strong. Just more booze. Long island. Just more booze.
Pat McAfee
They got like eight, nine shots in this.
Darius Butler
Oh, yeah.
Ty Schmidt
A legend of different alcohols.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's mixing everything.
Connor
When's the last time you heard someone order a Long Island? Now give me a Long Island.
Boston Conner
I had one two weeks ago. They do not taste the same. I feel like that was just a young.
Darius Butler
Is it top shelf? We're at the age now. You need a top shelf.
Boston Conner
I don't. I don't know. Was just on the menu.
Pat McAfee
Do they. Do they have top shelf Long Islands? Y never been.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I got s in them the only places.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I was about to say the only places I've ever been. They're making these Long Islands are. Yeah, exactly.
Darius Butler
Hit it with the guts.
Pat McAfee
What else we got back there? Yeah. Well, no, put that back. Yep. Here you go. You won't taste. It's in the middle of there. Here you go. Thank you. That'll be 10 bucks. The did I pay for it? Everything. Pulled all this out. What do you think it is?
Gumpy
You'll love it.
Pat McAfee
There's Mario shot wheel down there in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Boston Conner
Referring to.
Pat McAfee
You can get a black and gold shot. You can get kamikaze. I'll get your Vegas bomb. We'll get you going White gummy bear. Hey, how you doing? Three wise men. Good night. And puke.
Boston Conner
That's the one I owes.
Pat McAfee
There's a jaeger. There's an obom. Love the O bombs. The Obamas get you going. Tequila, green tea, pineapple, royal flush, lemon head. Is that what that is?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
AJ Hawk
Yep.
Pat McAfee
That one tastes like. Yep.
Boston Conner
Very sweet.
Ty Schmidt
And Obama.
Boston Conner
Just tequila.
Pat McAfee
Obama is just tequila.
Boston Conner
No, there's the two o'.
Pat McAfee
Clock. Are you just hoping for a green tea? That's the easy way. Well, it depends on who you are.
Boston Conner
Back in the day, we were definitely hoping for Vegas balls.
Darius Butler
If you're spitting this, you're not hoping for a green tea.
Pat McAfee
No.
Ty Schmidt
Or a good time.
Pat McAfee
What's that? Or.
Ty Schmidt
Or a good time. You were looking to end up under a dumpster if you're. If you're ending up at this slot wheel.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
AJ Hawk
Okay.
Boston Conner
We did it every weekend.
Pat McAfee
First stop. Get a free shot on this thing. The. Yeah. It's awesome days. Crazy world back in the day. Good times.
Ty Schmidt
The eye is taped off.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible on that wheel. Me Tone, Nick, we. We've had our hands on that wheel. Let's talk about the throwback uniforms for the Pittsburgh Steelers. My immediate thought upon seeing was I didn't like them. Then I think about like what throwback uniforms are and I immediately go, that's not bad. All they're trying to do is move some more jerseys and pay tribute to the past, which I respect. This one interesting form of the bumblebee just kind of inverted the entire thing. I would certainly like stripes up and down as opposed to flat. I think that is good. The pants color. Don't love it. You make that black. I think you got a cooler looking thing. But hey, I guess that wasn't what it was back in the day. Do they feel obligated to make it not look as good as it could look? Does that make sense?
Boston Conner
I feel like they feel obligated to make it historically accurate so that the steelworkers of that time, if they were to magically come back today, like, oh, those are Steelers. Steelers are back. And so they look. You can see they're historically accurate. I mean I like them better than the Bumblebees. Would they black pants been a lot better. Yeah. But I mean it's just not what. It's just not what they were.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I. I understand. Then in 1933 they didn't have the black pants on, but we could say the steel ash.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Char make it look worse.
Connor
The new style helmets really distort what the Throwbacks look like, I think.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Connor
Get the old school helmets that weigh 400 pounds and put them in. Put them in those guys for one game.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. If we're gonna do it historically accurately, we should do the same helmets. Yeah, Shoe. Same helmets. I agree.
Ty Schmidt
Callers.
Pat McAfee
I just saw the clip of. We just posted it on Instagram. It was from radio row. Somebody was talking about the new helmet and J.J. walt was like, I finally put it on my last year. It's so nice, so comfortable. I didn't want to take it off. It's not heavy. And AJ was sitting there. Well, you look. You look stupid though. It was like. It was like clearly JJ was like attacking you in the entire thing. It's like helmets have transformed a lot. I mean from. From what they used to look like to what they are now. But I guess inside they feel good. I guess it's like a fun. Because remember and I didn't grow up in a football world, so. Forgive me. Man, my ears. Putting that thing on especially my ears are bruised.
Connor
Your ears? My ears get bruised all the time.
Darius Butler
Ears are always.
Boston Conner
And forget if it was cold, could.
Pat McAfee
Get cauliflower ear from putting on a goddamn helmet. And then let alone I have a big head. I have a large head. So they're like, well, we'll give you a bigger head helmet. It's like, I don't. I still going to have to bend that thing up. Cuz it's. You're kind of. It has to be tight, right? Is that what you're saying? So you bend that down. Then the side of your head is just getting compressed, let alone if this thing stays down. Yeah, if you got your ear just like stays down. It's. It's a whole thing. Putting the helmet. I'm happy they've made it.
Darius Butler
Better get pumped up.
Ty Schmidt
Fill the pads.
Darius Butler
I miss it.
Pat McAfee
I want a few pumps right now.
Darius Butler
Oh, too much, Too much. Take a little bit out.
Pat McAfee
There's a couple helmets behind you right now if you want to run into a wall.
Darius Butler
Not those two. New too fancy too.
Pat McAfee
No, no, no. They want it. They. How about that one? Steelers. That's Steelers helmet.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Go do it.
Pat McAfee
You can put on Maverick helmet too if you want.
Darius Butler
Too nice.
Pat McAfee
That is old school. That is beautiful.
AJ Hawk
Game worn.
Pat McAfee
So if they're gonna do the gimmick helmets, why don't they do gimmick pants?
Boston Conner
I'm with you.
Pat McAfee
Are you gonna buy that jersey?
AJ Hawk
No.
Pat McAfee
Which player would you buy the jersey of this year?
Boston Conner
T.J. watt.
Pat McAfee
Okay.
Boston Conner
I don't have a teach jersey. He's now.
Pat McAfee
You were real excited. T.J. wal was a Pittsburgh Steelers.
Boston Conner
He's now a one helmet guy. I, I do this a lot. I do this all the time where, you know, I put out both sides. I put out some mixed feelings. Then once it finally happens, you get your true. Your true soul, your true heart, your true north.
Pat McAfee
Who else do you think he did that for? Quarterback as well?
AJ Hawk
Yep, for sure.
Boston Conner
PR for sure.
Ty Schmidt
For the last three years.
Pat McAfee
Years. How about DK Metcalf? Did you do that for dk? How about Johnny Smith? Did you do that for John? No, you didn't.
Boston Conner
Because I didn't even know it was an option. When the news of the original news. John, who came out that it was potentially trading for him. I, I said that's, that's not gonna happen.
Pat McAfee
And then Khan gets a job. Yeah.
Boston Conner
And then it happened. It was crazy.
Ty Schmidt
Legend.
Boston Conner
Like, I never thought DK was an option ever. So I never even had.
Pat McAfee
Are you guys winning a Super bowl this year?
Boston Conner
I would be highly surprised if we did debut.
Pat McAfee
Pittsburgh Steelers go to an AFC championship this year.
Darius Butler
Oh, no, that's. I mean, you know, AJ Pittsburgh Steelers.
Pat McAfee
Go to an AFC championship this year.
Connor
I've been thinking about this lately. Like, if their own line holds up, I think they definitely have a chance.
Boston Conner
That's the question.
Pat McAfee
Definitely have a chance.
Ty Schmidt
If that was the same.
Connor
That's everybody. That's everybody's team. But I'm telling you, the Steelers look around, man, they, they got some studs. Jalen Ramsey's on the squad now. Like they got a team.
Pat McAfee
I completely forgot about Jalen Ramsey over there.
Darius Butler
A top. Those are.
Pat McAfee
You think Ravens, Bills. Yeah, Chiefs.
Darius Butler
I mean Chiefs. I'm g. Start. Chiefs, Ravens, Bills.
Ty Schmidt
Pain goes are way too high.
Pat McAfee
What?
Darius Butler
I agree.
Ty Schmidt
That's ridiculous.
Pat McAfee
They're talking about Trey Hendrickson a little bit. Thinks he's going to get deal done. Mike Brown came out and talked about it.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I think he said that two months ago too.
Pat McAfee
Well, his family, though came out and said some of these players need to be pretty happy with what they got.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, the Texans are that low.
Pat McAfee
Shemar Stewart needs a sign.
Darius Butler
Niners.
Ty Schmidt
He's not. Yeah, because they're not changing the contract.
Pat McAfee
That's what it feels like. Yeah. Cincinnati Bengals are not going to change. He has taken a stand on this clause about guarantees and voided years and everything like that. He said that. We learned that it wasn't in the Bengals deal last year, but it is in 16 different teams, organizations, deals. We would have assumed the Cincinnati Bengals would have been doing something to save themselves money. If other teams were doing it already, certainly right. Don't we think that we would have. I think we all kind of assumed that was the case. So I, I'm kind of torn on this, but I'm definitely at the case where I hope Shemar gets money, hope he gets all of his money and I hope he gets back to work with the boys because he could be a difference maker in the NFL with how talented he is.
Darius Butler
Yeah, but he needs, I mean we all need reps coming in, but he, he, he needs some bad. So them not getting this or Trey Hendrickson Dunn is crazy. But speaking of contracts, guarantees and all that, a lot of these second round picks finally getting signed, fully guaranteed deals, which is great for them.
Pat McAfee
Before we get to that, Mike Brown's quote about Shemar Stewart. If we get a player who does something unacceptable, guess what? I don't want to pay him. I really don't. If he's sitting in jail, I don't think I have to pay him. Obviously injuries, jail, I guess is certainly things that you could void contracts for. Hopefully they get the deal done. Mike Brown ever transparent. Now back to what you were talking about, about the second round deals finally getting done. Kind of an abnormal year for the CBA and for these players in the second round.
Darius Butler
Yeah, people still showing up. Most rookies have already had to show up for camp. So all these guys getting paid. We had Carson, I think he was the first one to get paid with being the first pick in the second round. But I mean, I love this. You know, they took somewhat of a stand. It didn't take too long. We're right on training camp. And once you, these top, once these dominoes start to fall, you assume the rest of the guys will fall in line. Obviously we know Judkins is dealing with some issues off the field which would probably hold his up, but most of these guys are either fully guaranteed or north of 90% guaranteed, which is awesome.
Boston Conner
Yeah. So the originally last time we talked about this, Swishinger and Higgins were the only ones that were paid and they were, were paid fully guaranteed money. And the holdup was right there with number 35, Nicky Minwari from Seattle. I think he was the next one in. He, he said, oh, the two guys in front of me, they were fully guaranteed. Why aren't I fully guaranteed? So now at this point, picks 33 through 40 are all fully guaranteed. Obviously you talked about Judkins. He is not done yet. So they were all fully guaranteed. 33, 240 and then the next one, TJ Sanders out of Buffalo, he was like 95% fully guaranteed. As you go down the list, I mean, most of these are, are north of 80% fully guaranteed. So that was kind of the hold up. But once, like, once the, once you got the shuck, who was the quarterback and they said he has leverage because he is a quarterback to get the fully guarantee he might be a starter. Yes. And what. But once that, that first domino fall fell at 41, then it was like, okay, this is kind of how it's going to fall in as far as percentage of fully guaranteed.
Pat McAfee
I do appreciate the fact that Bean was like, we'll give you guarantees, not full. I mean, yes, 10.07 on 10.6. We'll get. Come on, come on. I love play ball.
AJ Hawk
Let's go.
Pat McAfee
There's a lot of guarantee with $10 million and then you kind of go down throughout the rest of it. Mason Taylor, obviously from the Taylor family, absolute beast over there with the New York Jets. 9.6 million of 10.4 fully guaranteed. I like the angle. I like what the boys tried to do. I think it all worked out and now we're at camp.
Boston Conner
It was funny because, you know, as soon as, like, soon as that, it was like a few days ago that first second rounder that hadn't been signed got signed and then literally they like 20, 20 of them signed within two days.
Pat McAfee
Yep. Shout out to the second rounders. AJ you wouldn't know anything about that, would you? Are they doing anything outside top five? Who cares?
Connor
You think football ever gets to fully guaranteed deals like basketball and baseball?
Pat McAfee
Is Scott Boris coming over or No?
Connor
I don't think it happens. But yeah, I mean, that's probably part of the reason why football is great though, because every single day, and you know as well, like, I know we've talked about it, like you need to have a healthy fear of your job like you really do.
Pat McAfee
Agreed. I think, I think, yeah, product can potentially dip if people get too comfortable and don't try to work for everything in the future if you have to earn it. Now, granted, I am a very much a pro player guarantee. Get all the money you could possibly get. But if we're talking strictly from the product standpoint, when people are chasing bags, that's when they're playing their absolute best ball. The NFL knows that. But I think taking care of the players is a very val. Especially the guys, you know, like the guys at your league are. That's why when I went to that first pro Bowl. It was out there in Arizona. All the guys that make money for the NFL were there. Okay. Like Tom Brady opted out. I think Aaron opted out. But basically JJ's there. Luke Kely's there. Drew Brees is there. Patrick, I think Patrick wasn't at that time. No. But like, basically everybody else that makes money for the NFL was there and they didn't even like rent out the entire hotel. And I was like, what the are we doing, man? Like, you got to at least take care of these people, the people that take care of and. And move the needle for your entire league. So I think like older players getting fully guaranteed deals, if they've already proven who they are, I think it's something we need and I think will be something that happens. But boy, that DeShawn Watson deal up a lot.
Darius Butler
That's what it up a lot.
Pat McAfee
I think, you know, everything. Like, if that works out for them up there. Think about if Cleveland wins.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, yeah.
Pat McAfee
Then. Then it's like everybody is going to be able to pull the trigger. But the fact that it's gone the way that it's gone as terribly as it's gone, both on the field and off the field, it's like, that's a lot of reasoning for the NFL to say, no, we're not going to do it. But I hope we get to a point where like, vets are getting fully guaranteed deal. There has to be like a year. Like, hey, if you get to this point, you can opt into this or something like that. I don't know how it all.
Darius Butler
Yeah, I don't.
Pat McAfee
I don't.
Darius Butler
I mean, I'm not concerned with you there. I'm pro player getting paid. I don't. I'm not concerned with the, the product dipping.
Pat McAfee
We.
Darius Butler
We have seen a lot of guys get paid and then that next year they don't play as well. Because obviously you do have that motivation when you are in a contract year, but once you start getting to that big, big money, those are usually, you know, like guys who've been playing for 6, 7, 8. Like this would be the Josh Allens, the Lamar Jackson, like Jalen hurts. Like, these guys aren't just going to stop being pros once they're getting these huge bags. And then the other guys who are, you know, say early 20s, like a stingley or a saucer, just got paid. They want to get paid again, you know, because three, four years down the line, new CBA, new salary, they're going to want $50 million a year. So, you know, we always Want more money, especially at football, you want to maximize your 3, 5, 10 years, however long you play in the league. So I hope it happens. With the violence and the guarantee of injury in this sport, it's going to be tough.
Pat McAfee
It's very scary, the injury thing. That's why the franchise tag everybody gets so pissed off about. It's like, I've earned it. You think that I've earned it. That's why you won't let me go to the market. And now you're holding me down for a year, and I only get one year worth of guarantees when I could. This all could end next year. This could all end one play. So there's that. That balance of it all. I think it's a tough negotiation.
Darius Butler
We have anybody on the franchise segment this year?
Ty Schmidt
Not this year, no.
Pat McAfee
Because Trey Smith got his deal done. Shout out to Jimmy Sexton and Tory Dandy.
AJ Hawk
That's right.
Pat McAfee
Right?
AJ Hawk
That's right.
Pat McAfee
Tory Dandy. Both Jimmy and Tory A.J.
Connor
They'Re a team, right? They do it together.
Pat McAfee
Yes. I only talked to Jimmy and then Jimmy told me what was going on. I guess I should also call Tory and ask him what the fuck's going on.
Ty Schmidt
One voice, one band. Yep.
Pat McAfee
One sound. All right, let's get out of here. I think we did it today. Yeah, I think so, too. Shot se, by the way, go see a show. We've been living a little bit. We got to see a show. Shane Gillis.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, we did.
Pat McAfee
I saw somebody say nobody was laughing in a theater. That's a lie. I was having a good time in there.
Ty Schmidt
Great time.
Pat McAfee
We were laughing. I was like. Some of the things. I was like. But that's Shanghill's football.
AJ Hawk
Exactly.
Pat McAfee
That is literally what Shanghillis football is. I did appreciate. I didn't want to say it. I said I didn't want to say it. Yeah. It's right to the next.
Ty Schmidt
They wrote this.
Pat McAfee
What an angle. There was certainly some. But this is going to happen. You know, obviously, with the way the ESPYs has been for a long time. You drop a Shane Gillis in there, who's going to like, hey, we are here to get. We are. We are.
AJ Hawk
Push the envelope a bit.
Pat McAfee
We are going to go. But who says it's an envelope, you know, because who says what the envelope is?
AJ Hawk
Right.
Pat McAfee
Especially in comedy, in the line between humor and hate for a lot of people, just kind of blends together. It's like, hey, these are jokes. Trying to laugh. Well, you didn't make me laugh. All right. Well, hopefully the Next joke will, you know, like, that is the thing I. I don't love whenever people are like. I guess it happens to me a lot, too, when people are like, I didn't think that was funny. It was like, well, there's other people that find that funny. It's like, well, it's not funny. It's like, well, who says you say that? Like, this is like food taste, man. Like, everybody has their own taste. Everybody views things a little bit differently. A lot of people are less serious than other people. We understand you're trying to change what world, make the world better every single second. But this is a comedian making sports jokes, and the purpose is to laugh at these things and point out potential hypocrisies and problems or just a thing that we've all seen. Like, that is what comedians jobs are since the beginning of time to kind of regulate society. I think personally, they have a very important role in our entire world. Not all of them do that. Obviously. Some of them are different forms of comedy. Once again, different. Different styles. Some of them represent different political parties, you know, in their styles. And, yeah, as soon as we heard Shane was the guy, it was like, all right, we would like Shane to succeed in this entire thing. And also, we very much understand how some of this is going to go and what the next day is going to look like.
AJ Hawk
They also didn't help him out. When we went last time, it was a full open bar. And this year, so, like, you had people getting, like, boozed up and, like, going in there and, like, enjoying themselves and having a good time. It was just. It was just beer and wine and, like, seltzer this year. So I wonder if just like, the general, you know, like, people weren't as drunk in there.
Pat McAfee
I know people were laughing, though. Like, I don't know if it wasn't coming through the tv. And I saw some people say they weren't in there and nobody was laughing.
Ty Schmidt
It's like it didn't come through for years, though. Number one, you did it. I guess.
Pat McAfee
We had some pops. We had some pops. Sounded quiet, but people.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, but people online were like, no one's laughing during McAfee monologue. But that wasn't the case.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, there was some people popping and just like, for Shane, there's some. Oh, yeah, there was certainly some.
Darius Butler
Oh, yeah, it was definitely even for me. Like, and obviously I was sitting right next to you and that camera was, you know. So it was some jokes.
Pat McAfee
I'm like, yeah, I didn't love that. That's a Joke that offends a lot of people. Where's McAfee put them on my daughter.
Darius Butler
Like, oh, I saw. I saw you yucking it up.
Pat McAfee
It was funny.
Darius Butler
He hawed, you know, so. And if you don't know if you're tuning into, you know, the ESPYs, you. You don't know because obviously Shane Gillis is wildly popular, but there are a lot of people who don't really know him who aren't that familiar with, you know, his brand of comedy they make. Oh, yeah, this is espy. Let me tune in. So maybe you're taken aback by some of it. And I, you know, the demo. Our. Our role was definitely.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, we were laughing.
Darius Butler
He was getting some pops.
Pat McAfee
Some of them. Our role that we would like to say to. To the people who are going to get mad about us saying that we laughed at some of his jokes. You people need to lighten up a little bit. Maybe try weed. Maybe try weed. Just something to think about, you know, Just something about. But also, there were some things he said where we were like, Jesus, you know, there was a couple that were like, oh, my.
Ty Schmidt
I pissed my pants off on everyone. I don't know if I even had any of those. But I, I also assume that people at home watching, you know, didn't think people were laughing because I assume maybe the, The. The audience mic was turned down. Maybe he was turned down during the purpose.
Pat McAfee
You think?
Ty Schmidt
Applause, laugh times versus when he was. You think it was against him again, who knows?
Boston Conner
I wouldn't be surprised.
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you what. I enjoyed that esps.
AJ Hawk
So did I. It have been awesome if they were selling or liquor in the lobby, but.
Connor
Outside of that, that's weird.
AJ Hawk
It's great.
Ty Schmidt
I, I enjoyed the monologue.
Pat McAfee
Gumpy missed the entire.
Ty Schmidt
I still can't live.
Pat McAfee
That'll be a story for another day.
Darius Butler
Him the whole time.
Pat McAfee
It was awesome.
Jamie Kennedy
First time in my life that's ever happened.
Pat McAfee
Gumpy had a code red one block away from the theater. Had to get out of the sprinter van, go to a random restaurant, dump his.
Ty Schmidt
Talk to a manager.
Pat McAfee
Had to get to a manager because the front person was like, you can't just dump it on a bathroom. Buddy. Can I talk to a manager, please? Buddy.
Darius Butler
Mr. Group Pick.
Jamie Kennedy
We were sitting at that light for 10 minutes. Dude, I was dying.
Pat McAfee
Did you see me put him in the photo? So the one I posted on ig, I put Gumpy in over my shoulder.
Ty Schmidt
Really?
Pat McAfee
Right here. If you look.
Boston Conner
Hanging from this.
Pat McAfee
No, he's got his little shipyard painting Hat on his helmet, the whole thing. I put him right there because he was in the area.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
He just couldn't get to where we. There's like six different levels of security. Aj it was outrageous.
AJ Hawk
Right after he got out. It was the most complex. Take a left, go down this. Take a right. Take a left, take a right, take. Go through another secure. I mean, it was.
Pat McAfee
At every turn. Aj, we were like, gumpy will be able to get here.
Connor
What did you do during the show?
Jamie Kennedy
Yeah, I just ran.
Connor
Okay.
Jamie Kennedy
It took a while to get to where they were, but I found it somehow.
Pat McAfee
Missed the group photos. Missed the first three drinks, but got there in time to go into the theater. That's right. It was great to see him. But he didn't his pants. Which I guess we were very close to happening.
Jamie Kennedy
I definitely would have.
Boston Conner
I forgot all about the beard wine.
Pat McAfee
But yeah, I wasn't happy about that.
Boston Conner
No offense to Mickey Mouse, but that.
Connor
I wonder what. Who made. Why that was. Why that. Why that happened.
Pat McAfee
I know. It was cool stuff. I mean, soon.
Ty Schmidt
Someone got blitzed last year a little bit.
Darius Butler
The same place.
Pat McAfee
Same. Yeah. A couple years back.
Boston Conner
That theater's supposed to be nice.
Pat McAfee
Thought it was nice. All right. If you were to go to a show and do a nice theater, you should use our friends at Se Geek. I thought the theater was nice. You didn't think theater was nice.
Boston Conner
No, I didn't.
Pat McAfee
I went backstage. I thought stage was beautiful, you know, cuz we were setting up the whole.
Boston Conner
Looks nice. Sure.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. For the whole thing. Had a microphone that came up out of the stage. That was pretty high tech.
Darius Butler
That was cool.
Pat McAfee
Stage was very nice. The design of it all seats were Mickey.
Darius Butler
Oh, we got a bust of R before.
Pat McAfee
Oh my God. How'd break your neck? Not come immediately afterwards. Whenever he said. Now granted, Bus is still throwing his fastball. Yeah. This was literally the next day. We were driving so somewhere and I'm like, hold what we just did right here. Holy Busta Rhymes last night. Hit it.
AJ Hawk
Yes.
Pat McAfee
Everything. It's like, how has he still got it? And then he said, if you know how we do or something like that. I'm like, we do know how you do. I thought we were. I thought we were about to. Yeah, I was about to. On top of my chair, stand up and do that entire thing. But I think he biggest reaction was Busta Rhymes.
AJ Hawk
Yes.
Pat McAfee
The entire theater stood up.
AJ Hawk
Yep.
Darius Butler
By far.
Pat McAfee
Ty started a standing ovation.
AJ Hawk
I did.
Pat McAfee
I did. Ty started a standing ovation. I forget which one it was.
AJ Hawk
It was either. Now it wasn't Simone Biles. It might have been for Diana Terazi and Alex Morgan.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because there was clapping happening, you know, a lot of clapping happening. And Ty was like, nope, that's literally what he said. Stood up, big claps in the middle of the theater and then you see everybody through. Yeah, it was. Ty started it. Ty. I started. Didn't know. It was pretty sick. And then they gave a good, they gave a good speech deal. And then we learned Tausi is an absolute dog.
Ty Schmidt
It's Diana.
Darius Butler
Big fan of the program too.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we learned that. I don't know Truly.
Darius Butler
She gave, she wouldn't lie to me.
Boston Conner
She gave gumps to slap on the chest.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. She big dog gum.
Pat McAfee
Did she?
Boston Conner
I wouldn't say big dog.
Ty Schmidt
I thought it was out of respect, I guess.
Pat McAfee
She is a legendary talker.
Darius Butler
Yes.
Pat McAfee
I, I, I guess, I guess I.
Connor
Saw an interview she did outside in the red carpet when she was saying like very humble saying, yeah, I can still take all these girls.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, she's a dog. From what I, from my understanding. Yeah, I guess she knows the show, which is pretty sick. We would love to get Diana de Rossi on the show. Would love to hear. I watched that documentary when she's playing overseas.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Darius Butler
She had to play over in rush for first 12 years of her career.
Pat McAfee
Career. Did you watch that doc on her?
Darius Butler
I did not.
Pat McAfee
She was coming back WNBA season, then going over there. Then she couldn't play in some things because of the contracts. Speaking of, we're in the middle of it, I guess. What WNBA contracts right now. Yeah, I watched the whole daca. She's beast. Absolute beast.
Darius Butler
Oh yeah.
Pat McAfee
I had no idea she would, I'd assume just immediately that she would have hated our guts. That's how still do Still a chance.
Ty Schmidt
Still.
Pat McAfee
She still think. She thinks, you know, and Shane probably did it on purpose, but she probably thinks that's how we feel as well. Yeah, we clapped for that.
Boston Conner
Four time NBA or WNBA all star. What was her name?
Pat McAfee
Wicks.
AJ Hawk
Brittany Hicks.
Boston Conner
Brittany Hicks.
Pat McAfee
Hicks, yeah. What a moment.
Connor
What a creative little situation that was.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I don't know if people were thinking about that particular situation. I heard Sarah Spain's pissed and I. Okay. What? Sarah Spain was pissed? Yeah.
Boston Conner
No way.
Pat McAfee
I, I got a chance to meet Sarah Spain and her husband. They were very nice to me and Foxy. I mean they're very nice.
Ty Schmidt
Steve Spain.
Pat McAfee
She is. I don't know his name. Steve. I don't know his name. I forget his name. They're very nice to Us. But Sarah obviously pissed off. But that's her. You know, she's like, hey, we don't need to be taking anything down. So I think we expected Sarah's Payne to not love that entire thing. Him saying Deanna Tausi. That had to be on purpose.
AJ Hawk
Had to have done that on purpose.
Darius Butler
They went right to her, too.
Pat McAfee
The short reaction and then the whole make some noise for four time wnba like you're talking about it, like calling that a low level thing. I don't think she was talking about that. I don't think she was because. Couldn't be. That was a super genius.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Connor
I mean, it worked. How do you argue? It worked perfectly.
Pat McAfee
Well, any amount of levels to that.
AJ Hawk
Like, I assumed she was talking about the Caitlin Clark Waffle House deal.
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Because the whole make some noise for fourth time, that's just.
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Raucous applause.
Darius Butler
Yeah, I was looking. She's kind of short.
Ty Schmidt
Well, then you see.
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
She could dribble.
AJ Hawk
The out gets buckets.
Pat McAfee
Obviously I happened to meet her afterwards. I told her congrats on a four time all star. And then just kind of kept it moving. Big laugh. McCusker look losing his mind.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he's inside of.
Pat McAfee
All right. Shout out to the sp.
AJ Hawk
Shout out.
Pat McAfee
It was. That Cora thing was sweet. Yeah. Great speech was phenomenal. Speech was phenomenal. No ad libbed because I was watching. He was. I think August 30th is going to be awesome. Oh, yeah. Be very Ohio State. Texas. He's. It's going to be his last, you know, headgear, his last pick and first college game day of the year over there in Columbus. And he looked good, man. Energy moved. Talking in the band. Yeah.
AJ Hawk
USC band. I forgot about that.
Pat McAfee
Sweet. That was sick. I had no idea what they were gonna do. I was just told, hey, USC bands coming out at the end. If you could bring them up. You got it. I had no idea. They're coming from the floor.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Darius Butler
Everywhere.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Holy. We're doing a full. I actually I was standing in a place and a guy slid in front of me for their performance. I look at dez, I go, holy. And I move this way and DEZ is literally done because I almost interrupted and tripped this entire guy. So I'm like, where is a safe place? Where was it? I don't know. We should have paid attention a little bit more. So we just kind of stood still.
Ty Schmidt
Should have told you a little more.
Pat McAfee
But it was awesome. Nah, I think it was better that way. I think it was Better. How it all went. Shots. Kirk Erbstreet. Desmond Howard. Shut up. Kirk Herbstreet's hilarious. Thanks for the dinner, herbie. After the SPs. I was very kind of him. Indeed. You got a quesadilla?
Ty Schmidt
How the. How'd you know?
Pat McAfee
Delicious quesadilla. You should have heard Darren.
Jamie Kennedy
These brain is still in la.
Pat McAfee
You should have heard Darren.
Ty Schmidt
How'd you know to order the quesadilla box?
Pat McAfee
So Darren is. We appreciate Darren. We love Darren. Darren's around. We know Darren. Darren a lot. We know D very well. He's always trying to get things done, which I respect and I appreciate. He set up this entire thing, I would assume shout out to D for doing that. We're at a Mexican place, though, and Foxy orders a quesadilla in Darren's head. Just. Was that off menu?
Ty Schmidt
How'd you get fries?
Pat McAfee
In the case of Full Explosion. It was. It was great. It was one of the best. D Bone. I guess. Can't call them debone anymore. Really great.
Ty Schmidt
D Money.
Pat McAfee
D Money moments of all time. D hey, he looked good. Yeah.
AJ Hawk
He was in white pants, great fit, great tan.
Pat McAfee
He looks good.
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
D Money's ready for football season. Yeah. He's swinging a hot bat right now, cuz that Mexican place was very good. So good. Very, very good. Very, very good.
Ty Schmidt
You can get chicken in a case of ds since.
Darius Butler
What?
Pat McAfee
Holy. What? I would have ordered that, dude.
Ty Schmidt
Just cheese this whole time.
Pat McAfee
How about this? D? They got tacos right here.
Darius Butler
Wow.
Ty Schmidt
What the. A taco, man.
Pat McAfee
They got it right here. That was great. Herbie is hysterical. Kirk Herbstreet's one of the funniest people existed. So funny.
Boston Conner
He's in his bag right now.
Pat McAfee
He is. That's because he's been.
Boston Conner
He's in his. I don't give a. Yeah, but I.
Pat McAfee
Also think he's been kind of. Who's he been talking to? The dogs. He's cooped up. You can tell. Yeah. He's got a lot to say. A lot has happened. And it was all funny. All of it? Yes. How do we feel? And then you knew. He's a lot like you. You toxic Ohio. Hey, so drop something in there that you know a lot more than you want to lead on about. Just want to kind of start the conversation. Classic Herb Street. So fill me in something. Oh, Jesus. Wow. Wow. Is that right? Even him on the show, just like casually putting in the background and acting like. Like he wasn't doing anything to be on the show. I want to see if you guys would see me back there. Yeah, he did make a 25. He did left. Only got to make a putt out there.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Boston Conner
Yeah.
Darius Butler
You can tell he's ready to get back in the ball, too. Cuz regardless of the conversation, you could be just shooting 30, 45. Who you got in AFC?
Pat McAfee
This like, who you what?
Darius Butler
Quarterback.
Pat McAfee
Let's go around the ball club. Let's go around. That's his move. He wants to hear everybody's answer. Really? Wow. Wow. He's awesome.
Ty Schmidt
Five months ak he'll do that.
Pat McAfee
Hey, he looks good.
Darius Butler
He does deserve it. You earned it.
Pat McAfee
He looks very good right now. Tanned 30 years. Yeah. Fit 22 years. He did four hours local radio.
AJ Hawk
Yep.
Pat McAfee
These are the dog days, boys. Yeah, we know. Yeah, we're in it. Not so much this year, though, Herbie. We've gotten lazy. Yeah, we've gotten lazy. It has been great. Can't wait for football season. It's here. On that note, we have an announcement. It is here. Yes. We have an announcement. Next Wednesday, we will be at the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp. And next Thursday, we will be at the hall of Fame for the hall of Fame game.
Ty Schmidt
Boom.
Pat McAfee
Football is back in a huge way. We'll be at a training camp next Wednesday live with some of your Pittsburgh Steelers favorites. And then we'll be at the hall of Fame game live with all of the legends of the NFL. Shout out to the NFL hall of Fame Football Pro Football hall of Fame. Shout out to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Burt. Making magic happen. Thank you for the invite, Aaron. Thank you for obliging Coach Tomlin and Omar Khan. And shout out to the hall of Fame for allowing us to be set up over there. Come hang with us. We're gonna be. I don't know about St. Vincent setup. I have no idea what that's gonna be like, but I know at the hall of Fame there's a massive parking lot. You can come hang and chill. We're gonna be right at the steps. I don't know if anybody's ever been set up on the steps there. I think a lot of the legends of the game are gonna swing through. And then obviously we kick off. NFL football that night with the Lions helmet taking on the Chargers helmet on a football field in Ohio. Harbaugh's gonna be on the sideline. Mcdc is gonna be on the sideline. There's some quarterbacks that we know that are going to potentially have some time, and we know that football is literally right around the corner because this game's happening. We can't wait to celebrate in Pittsburgh. More specifically Latrobe. And we can't wait to celebrate in Canton next week. Come see us. Ain't that right, A.J.
Connor
That'S awesome, man. What a great two days. So when does camp open for the Steelers? Will they be in full pads this time?
Pat McAfee
So they start Wednesday in two days? They start. Yeah, they'll be probably. There'll be a week in, they'll be full pads in. They're one of the last two teams to start their training camp. 26 teams will start tomorrow. Four have already started and then two start on Wednesday.
Boston Conner
Yes, correct. I can't. I think it's the Cardinals who also.
Pat McAfee
Start Wednesday, but they've already been doing working out. I. I seen Kyler Murray traveling with Marvel.
Jamie Kennedy
He was that Morgan Wallen, too?
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I said, what happened? Night one, Morgan Wallen something put him in. He had Randy Johnson.
Boston Conner
I saw that.
Pat McAfee
Awesome. Morgan as baseball player growing up, had to be. That had to be so cool for him. I was. I hope Randy knows that. That. I assume that was very, very cool for Morgan and his entire team. His great group of dudes around him. And then he had Joe Dirt. Yep. Walk out with him. But I think the reports were saying the night one's crowd was a little bit rowdy. Really? Yeah. Fights, bottles maybe being thrown.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Things like that. I guess it was a little bit outrageous.
AJ Hawk
R up they were letting the liger talk.
Pat McAfee
Unfortunately, last night they let the li. I bet that show is phenomenal. Yeah. He just released an album with 37 songs on it. Hey, Morgan loves golf. Ooh, loves golf. Loves, loves, loves golf. Very much so. Good golfer. It's ball far. Golf needs to know that Morgan Wallen is a big golf fan because I think he like respects game. Loves game, treats game, goes out of his way to play game, trains game. Then obviously fitness, everything he's doing for these stadium shows. He's a. He's a beast. He's a fucking beast. 37 songs on an album, brother. I could be four fucking albums.
Ty Schmidt
850,000 copies, I think.
Pat McAfee
No big deal. More $850,000 more than second.
Ty Schmidt
There it is.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Yeah. I think he had what, 25 of the top 50 or something like that songs. He's just walking out there. Thank you very much for coming out tonight. Bang. 100 some thousand tickets sold. Jesus Christ. Think about all that. Congrats, dude.
Ty Schmidt
Hell yeah, Morgan.
Pat McAfee
I guess they're pretty wild out there in Arizona.
Connor
It's not his fault.
Pat McAfee
No, I mean, I'm trying to think of what Song could have been there in there. He says throw a bottle at the stage.
AJ Hawk
I don't know, you might have ad lib something.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, maybe right in the middle of that. Just go ahead and let that thing. All right, this one goes in. This one goes in. We'll use C key code PAT30. Nope. C key code pat. Just pat.
Boston Conner
Okay.
Pat McAfee
To get $30 off morgan wallet tickets.
AJ Hawk
Done.
Pat McAfee
All right. Full price, I guess. Yep.
AJ Hawk
Sorry.
Pat McAfee
That. That stinks, cuz. Where's he at next? Can you look it up? Where he. Where he.
Darius Butler
I was debone.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, debone. Where's he at next?
Boston Conner
I think he has a tattooed on his back.
Pat McAfee
He was in Arizona last week. He's got the entire set list. Tour you should see in Seattle. Where's he at after Seattle?
Boston Conner
Glen Allen, Virginia.
Pat McAfee
And.
Boston Conner
And Santa Clara, California. Cleveland, Ohio. Boxborough, Massachusetts.
Pat McAfee
Hell yeah. Which one should we give tickets away to if this goes in? None of them. What? Cleveland.
AJ Hawk
Cleveland, Ohio.
Pat McAfee
Cleveland, Ohio. Feels Jerry Judy. Boom.
Boston Conner
They did some good in their lives.
Pat McAfee
We're going to give four Morgan Walls falling tickets away because Jerry Judy's our favorite player in the NFL.
Ty Schmidt
Hell yeah.
Pat McAfee
Jerry, if this goes in.
AJ Hawk
Yep.
Ty Schmidt
Well, it can't be full.
Pat McAfee
Never was meant to be. All right, let's get out of here. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're gonna sing together. Shout out to you, A.J. we'll see you tomorrow, boys. Great work. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Team on me. Team on three. We'll see you tomorrow. One, two, three.
Darius Butler
Team Dubai.
Podcast Summary: PMS 2.0 1378 - The Open Championship Recap, Adam Schefter, J.J. Watt, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
Release Date: July 21, 2025
In episode PMS 2.0 1378 of "The Pat McAfee Show," host Pat McAfee, alongside co-hosts AJ Hawk, Ty Schmidt, and Boston Conner from The Toxic Table, delves into a diverse array of sports topics. This episode offers listeners a comprehensive overview of the recent WNBA All-Star Weekend, Scottie Scheffler's dominant performance at The Open Championship, significant NFL contract negotiations, and evolving discussions around NIL policies in college sports. The conversation is enriched with personal anecdotes and lively interactions, making it both informative and entertaining.
Location: Indianapolis (referred to as "in Diami")
Pat McAfee opens the episode by highlighting the excitement surrounding the WNBA All-Star Weekend in Indianapolis. He emphasizes the league's financial struggles, noting that despite generating $200 million in revenue, the WNBA reportedly faces a $40 million loss.
“They’re charging 70,000 bucks for a suite at some of these games that Caitlin Clark is playing... I know that the league's been around for 20 years, I know that it's lost money for a very, very long time here.” [00:55]
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The conversation transitions to golf, focusing on Scottie Scheffler's impressive performance at The Open Championship. Scheffler's consistent lead and composed demeanor under pressure are lauded by Pat and AJ.
“The only word you can really say about Scottie Scheffler is inevitable... he has a four stroke lead.” [04:32]
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A significant portion of the episode covers major NFL contract signings, with a spotlight on T.J. Watt's historic deal with the Pittsburgh Steelers.
“TJ Watt gets his deal done. $123 million with $108 million fully guaranteed... a historic deal for a non-quarterback.” [19:19]
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Adam Schefter joins the panel to provide expert analysis on these negotiations, offering insider perspectives on the balance between player demands and franchise capabilities.
“They didn’t realize it until it was raised that that was exactly how it matched up his career sacks and the guaranteed money.” [20:36]
The episode delves into the complexities within the NFL Players Association (NFLPA), addressing challenges in collective bargaining and player representation.
“The number one objective... to get every single player on the same page... is extremely hard.” [J.J. Watt]
Key Points:
J.J. Watt emphasizes the need for cohesive efforts within the NFLPA to secure better deals for players, highlighting the struggle against individualistic tendencies.
Pat and the panel discuss the recent developments in Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) policies, expressing skepticism about the effectiveness of new regulatory committees.
“I don’t see the purpose. I don’t know how that is going to do anything.” [Pat McAfee on NIL committee] [45:44]
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The panel debates the practicality and fairness of external oversight on NIL endorsements, fearing it may hinder athletes' ability to capitalize on their market value.
Pat McAfee shares personal stories from his youth, including his experience selling modified cigarettes and the consequences that followed. These anecdotes serve to illustrate negotiation tactics and personal growth.
“I started finding ashtrays, and then I found a guy, a kid, I guess he's 18 years old, to start supplying me.” [Pat McAfee on teenage entrepreneurship] [53:20]
Additionally, reflections on Scottie Scheffler’s comments about achieving career goals and the subsequent sense of emptiness resonate deeply with themes of success and fulfillment.
“I reach the top of the mountain... the view isn’t as good as it was.” [Pat McAfee referencing Scottie Scheffler] [92:29]
The episode concludes with announcements about upcoming live segments from the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp and the Hall of Fame game. Pat encourages listeners to join them for exclusive on-site coverage.
“Next Wednesday, we will be at the Pittsburgh Steelers training camp. And next Thursday, we will be at the Hall of Fame for the Hall of Fame game.” [Final minutes]
The hosts wrap up with light-hearted banter about various topics, maintaining the show’s engaging and dynamic atmosphere.
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Conclusion:
Episode PMS 2.0 1378 offers a multifaceted discussion on current sports events, blending in-depth analysis with personal insights. From the financial intricacies of the WNBA to Scottie Scheffler’s golf prowess, and from monumental NFL contracts to the contentious NIL policies in college sports, Pat McAfee and his co-hosts provide a rich and engaging narrative. The episode not only informs but also entertains, making complex topics accessible to listeners who may not have tuned in.