PMS 2.0 1380 - Ian Rapoport, Kyle Busch, Brownie the Elf Debuts New Cleveland Browns Alternate Helmets, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show – PMS 2.0 1380

Release Date: July 23, 2025

In this episode of The Pat McAfee Show, host Pat McAfee, along with co-hosts AJ Hawk, Boston Connor, Ty Schmidt, Darius Butler, Shane Lechler, and guest NFL Insider Ian Rapoport, delves into a comprehensive discussion covering the latest in football training camps, standout players, exciting NASCAR updates, and the debut of the Cleveland Browns' new alternate helmets featuring Brownie the Elf. The episode also includes a heartfelt apology from Pat McAfee to the Cornette family, addressing a previous show's impact.

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1. Season Kickoff and Sports Appreciation [00:00 – 02:39]

Pat McAfee opens the show with exuberant gratitude towards various sports leagues and events that have recently concluded, celebrating the return of football as the NFL's training camps commence.

Notable Quote:

Pat McAfee [00:00]: "Everything that took place from last football season until now, we would like to give a hearty thank you. Thank you so much."

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2. Special Guest: Shane Lechler [03:05 – 05:12]

Former Pro Bowl punter Shane Lechler joins the show, reminiscing about his career, his time with Sebastian Janikowski, and reflecting on the evolution of the NFL. Pat extends heartfelt congratulations for Lechler’s Hall of Fame candidacy.

Notable Quote:

Pat McAfee [02:42]: "Ladies and gentlemen, a man who should be in the hall of Fame yesterday, Shane Lechler. Good to see you, dude."

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3. The Legend of Tyron Matthew "Honey Badger" [08:37 – 10:23]

The conversation shifts to Tyron Matthew, affectionately known as the "Honey Badger," a standout NFL player whose athletic prowess and leadership have left a significant mark on the league. Co-hosts and guests share anecdotes highlighting his impact both on and off the field.

Notable Quote:

Shane Lechler [09:35]: "Tyron was amazing as a teammate. I remember we were in training camp and Tyron got extremely emotional. He told his life story and we all had mad respect for that guy."

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4. Training Camps and Quarterback Competition [12:14 – 20:00]

The discussion delves into the intense quarterback competitions unfolding across various NFL teams, including Indianapolis, Pittsburgh, New York Jets, Seattle, and Las Vegas. Guests analyze the implications of these competitions on team dynamics and season prospects.

Notable Quote:

Pat McAfee [17:00]: "He's always been a dog. I've watched your film on a very regular basis because we had similar styles."

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5. Ian Rapoport’s Training Camp Insights [24:21 – 33:39]

NFL Insider Ian Rapoport provides live updates from multiple training camps, including the Los Angeles Chargers, Detroit Lions, Kansas City Chiefs, and Dallas Cowboys. He highlights key player performances and emerging storylines.

Notable Quote:

Ian Rapoport [26:33]: "They are fully camping, boys. The Falcons and Steelers replace reported today. All teams are officially at camp."

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6. Cleveland Browns’ New Alternate Helmets [67:05 – 74:03]

A significant segment unveils the Cleveland Browns' historic introduction of their first-ever brown helmets, termed the "Alpha Dog." The hosts engage in playful banter with Brownie the Elf, the team’s mascot, celebrating this milestone.

Notable Quote:

Pat McAfee [67:18]: "It's the first time in the history of the organization that a brown helmet will be worn."

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7. NASCAR Spotlight: Kyle Busch and the Pennsylville 250 [46:07 – 56:33]

The show transitions to the world of NASCAR, featuring a conversation with Kyle Busch about the upcoming Pennsylville 250 Brickyard race at Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Busch discusses team strategies, car performance, and his aspirations for the race.

Notable Quote:

Kyle Busch [46:24]: "I'm looking forward to it. We want to make that this Kyle, this time."

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8. Apology to Mary Kate Cornette and Family [114:00 – 118:35]

In a sincere and emotional segment, Pat McAfee addresses a previous episode's impact on the Cornette family. He apologizes publicly, acknowledging the hurt caused by inaccurate reporting and emphasizing the show's commitment to positivity and unity.

Notable Quote:

Pat McAfee [116:30]: "I deeply regret the pain that was caused. I hope that this can be something that we all learn from going forward."

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9. Closing Remarks and Future Plans [118:36 – End]

Pat McAfee wraps up the episode by highlighting upcoming events, including attending training camps in Pittsburgh and Canton, Ohio, and preparing for the bustling football season ahead. The hosts exchange lighthearted moments, reflecting the show's signature blend of sports analysis and humor.

Notable Quote:

Pat McAfee [119:15]: "Football's back. Here we go. And hey, why not over the next few days, make amends with some people. Let's enjoy life together."

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Conclusion

This episode of The Pat McAfee Show offers a rich tapestry of sports discussions, heartfelt moments, and engaging interactions. From honoring legendary players like Shane Lechler to celebrating the Cleveland Browns' new helmets and exploring the high-octane world of NASCAR, the show provides listeners with insightful commentary and entertaining banter. The genuine apology to the Cornette family underscores Pat McAfee's commitment to integrity and positive influence in the sports community.

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Note: All timestamps correspond to the provided transcript and reflect the approximate times of quoted segments.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello, beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode. The ThunderDome on the NFL's back. Wednesday, July 23, 2025. This program begins now. Football. He's all the way back. Don't look now. All 32 teams are in their training camp. Don't look now. Next Thursday is the hall of Fame game. Don't look now. August 30th is the first college game day. Holy hell. We made it to football. We did it together. We did it. Having a blast. And thank you to the season. Truly impeccable stuff. The NBA run that the Pacers had so much fun. Yeah. Jeez Louise. WNBA all star weekend with stud buds down here in Indianapolis crushed. Great time. Baseball, so phenomenal. College hoops, you name it. Everything that took place from last football season until now, we would like to give a hearty thank you. Thank you so much.

[Boston Connor]

Thank you, sports.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you, sports. Even S banana baseball.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Everything that was happening in this, the X Games. I think I saw some craziness take place for the first time. Long time. All the sports things that took place from the super bowl when the Philadelphia Eagles just beat the hell out of Kansas City chase, which Patrick Mahomes now has like a spite year coming, which is crazy to think about going in until now. Thank you. But boys and ladies in Olds and youngs, all NFL teams are trying to get a Lombardi. All NFL teams are in a building. All NFL teams have started the journey to the top of the mountain. And for that we will celebrate. We have Ian Rapaport joining us in about 14 minutes or so. We'll see if he knows anything. We'll see what he knows. Yeah, he's been golfing a lot. Going to Pez Dispenser factory. Yep, that's right. And Legos. Museums.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Harry Potter museum.

[Pat McAfee]

And I believe his kids, currently Max and Jude are out in the woods for their eighth straight week of the summer. Correct. But nonetheless, we love Rap Sheet. We appreciate Rap Sheet. We can't wait to catch up on everything happening in his world. And also, what do we need to be looking at at these training camps? Obviously, there's quarterback competition in Indianapolis. Early reports are saying it's a close one. Now there's going to be a lot of chatter about who's going to be the starter here. There's also going to be a lot of chatter about a lot of new starters. More specifically, over there in Pittsburgh. How about the New York Jets? How about in Seattle? Nobody's talking about Darnold coming off a potential MVP Year. Now he's out in Seattle trying to revive them. Geno Smith in Las Vegas. So many storylines, it's absurd. And we're lucky to be here. The talks to the tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt, 9 year NFL vet, Dairy State Butler. And the reason why he's sitting over there is because we've come become a little bit of a farm, you know, a petting zoo of sorts. A goat is here. Whoa. Did you hear it walk in?

[Boston Connor]

I did a little bit.

[Pat McAfee]

What's the noise that a goat makes?

[Boston Connor]

Usually it's like.

[Pat McAfee]

Not 100% sure if that's a horse or a sheep or a. Anything else you got going on, but that's it. That's what we heard coming in here. Because this guy, he's a little bit of a stallion. A little bit of a stallion as well. Ladies and gentlemen, in my eyes, the goat of punting a football. He was a Raider and he was a Texan. Then his ass got fired.

[Boston Connor]

Geez.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, a man who should be in the hall of Fame yesterday, Shane Lechler. Good to see you, dude.

[Shane Lechler]

Man, it's great. This is my first time here. I've seen it on the show a lot. And this place is legit.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, thank you. Shane is a man who loves the spotlight. Since retirement, he has tried to find every camera that he possibly can. He hasn't just kind of isolated himself in Texas around his daughter's sports and fishing, I believe in the Gulf of Mexico, of America. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. Gulf of America. You've been in there closer than I ever have. I've gotten some videos of him hauling ass through the Gulf with four fishing rods going out the back end. Him having the time of his life. And I'm thinking to myself, shane, you've earned that. You've deserved that. And you know what else you've earned and deserved is a Hall of Fame nut. So I just want to let you know, and I would like to let the world know, as somebody who punted and as somebody who's been nominated now three times for the Pro Football hall of Fame, Congratulations.

[Boston Connor]

No big deal.

[Pat McAfee]

No big deal. Thank you so much. That's certainly real. But with that actually being real, this guy deserves to be in there. We all respect and appreciate the hell out of you. And the way you went about your business was special. He was the guy that would have beers for you for the trip back. You know, that's old school. Hey, you got some beers delivered. Who are these from? Shane Lechler. Enjoy a Ride out of here, boys. Have yourself a good time. You and Sebastian Janikowski, absolutely legendary. You're a nine time old, all pro, seven time pro bowler. You're a special athlete, dude. Special athlete. I appreciate the hell out of you, man.

[Shane Lechler]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

And a hick too, which I think we all very much appreciate. Football season around the corner. You get any itch, go back and punt.

[Shane Lechler]

No, I'm not. But I'm ready to watch some football. It seems like it's been a while. I'm a huge college football fan and. But I'm ready. I'm ready to go. I don't miss what the guys are doing right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Training camp.

[Shane Lechler]

Training camp was great in Napa.

[Pat McAfee]

Why is that, you guys?

[Shane Lechler]

I mean, the weather was awesome. You had, you know, the winery and all that. I don't drink wine, but it was there, you see, you know, the big air balloon, hot air balloons and stuff flying over practice, you know, Napa was fun. Janikowski and I played golf almost every single day.

[Pat McAfee]

See, that was part of the narrative that when I got into the league about kickers and punters. Now granted, you guys were dogs and I think your teammates absolutely loved you. I think you've told us a few stories about, you know, the house that you and Janikowski lived in together and what mornings look like in that place. As you were. What. When were you drafted?

[Shane Lechler]

2,000.

[Pat McAfee]

What round?

[Shane Lechler]

Fifth.

[Pat McAfee]

And when was Janikowski drafted?

[Shane Lechler]

First round. 17 pick overall. Same draft, same team.

[Pat McAfee]

Al Davis. That's right. I love Al. We love Al Davis. He also drafted every person at ran a 4, 2. He was specifically drafting for the punt team, I think. And you were the perfect punter for it. As you go. Whenever you look at this NFL, are you one of the old heads because you're in the league for so long that think the game soft or do you love where the game of football is at right now? Because you quarterback college. I don't know if you're a college quarterback.

[Shane Lechler]

I was a backup quarterback. College played a little bit, but that was it.

[Pat McAfee]

Always spinning it though. Warm ups, you know, whenever there's pat and go happening on the field. Yeah, you're always going to see Shane Leckler on the other side, probably have something, you know, and then there's going to be a ball spinning.

[Shane Lechler]

That was my favorite part of the game was pat and go before. Especially if one of the quarterbacks wasn't throwing like well. And you get in there, you spend like five perfect balls. You're like, get your shit Together, Ready?

[Pat McAfee]

But the punter and. But how do you feel about the state of football? How do you feel about it right now?

[Shane Lechler]

I mean, I like it.

[Pat McAfee]

It's.

[Shane Lechler]

You know, it's high scoring and stuff like that. But there's still. I feel like the officiating is still in the way of some of the stuff because, of course, I played for Al Davis, so we always felt that way in Oakland back in the day. And, you know, you can watch how Al was such a maverick. Whenever there was league meetings, there would be 31 yeses and one no. And we all knew who that was.

[Pat McAfee]

Literally, it was expected that it was Al in the entirety.

[Shane Lechler]

You know, we. We kind of grew up after the. I guess after the Tuck rule game against New England. Whenever that happened, it just felt like, dang, you know, the whole world's operating against us. Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

And so do you want more technology or less technology? Do you want more. More phone in the ear to the refs, or do you think that builds for conspiracy fodder?

[Shane Lechler]

Well, I mean, you know, like. Like the whole bringing the chains and stuff out needs to stop. Like, we know when a damn first down is right. And then ordering your scoring, you know, you don't need to, like, replay. Like, this would be something to say. Yeah, the ball cross. Like, let's move on.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're talking about.

[Shane Lechler]

Let's add baseball up. It seems like some football games are getting slower sometimes to me.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I agree. I think.

[Shane Lechler]

I mean, I still love it. It's a great game and it's fun to watch. And I love the fact that, you know, it gave us our livelihood and everything that it g. But, you know, there's always room for improvement.

[Pat McAfee]

How do you feel about the players, the goats at the top right now? Patrick Mahomes, special individual.

[Shane Lechler]

That kid is unbelievable. And, you know, whatever they thought, I saw something somewhere. I'm not on Twitter or Instagram. I'm not on anything. I. I'm not even on my own email. You know, I don't even check it. So you need to get a hold of me, call me or text me, and I might get you.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, I got.

[Shane Lechler]

You know, I saw where somebody kind of made fun of how Pat looked at a. At a beach or something. Look out. He might. He may. Yeah, he may break every NFL record this year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think people operate that way. Speaking of players that we have massive respect for and chip on shoulder and I guess, you know, Patrick Mahomes is passed up by a lot of people. We all know the story Chicago Bears fans are still doing their thing about that entirety. Tyron Matthew, the honey Badger coming out of college. He was the guy at lsu. I mean, he captained the world. Did he win a Heisman finalist?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, finalist.

[Pat McAfee]

He was a Heisman final punt returner. I think they give him ball on the offense and on defense, side of the ball. He was a magnet to every. I mean, he was electrifying. Obviously, everything that happens with lsu, you know, maybe a little bit of marijuana, Ka maybe maybe a little bit of a weed. Still dominant on the field. Never really. Everybody talked positively about him. It was just a little bit of a different road than we all expected. Nothing was handed to him. I think BA tells a story about drafting him, how happy he was and pumped he was and basically was like, hey, here's your opportunity, basically to prove everything right about yourself that you've always said. And he did all of that and more. I was very thankful to watch it his entire football career, I think, is what I would say. But his LSU times, all the way through these Saints days, he seemingly maintained this magnetic ability to the ball. The dude was everywhere. Electrifying player. You played with him.

[Shane Lechler]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

What was he like as a teammate? I've only got a chance to watch. Obviously. He hung it up yesterday. Congrats to him on a phenomenal career. What was he like as a teammate?

[Shane Lechler]

Man, Tyron was amazing as a teammate. I got to play with him a short time in Houston. But you talk about people that gravitate to leadership. They gravitate to him. And he doesn't speak a lot. He's quiet. He's a very quiet guy. I remember we were in training camp and Bill would have a player speak kind of towards the end of the training camp. He'd pick like six guys that would speak either every night or every other night. Have one. When Tyron got up there, you could hear a pin drop and he got extremely emotional. He told his life story and mad respect for that guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, I love that. I love to hear that. I think the most transparent leaders are the best leaders, no matter how much you talk. He's a Super bowl champ, obviously. Just showed the photos whenever he was with Kansas City Chiefs, what a run that was. He goes back home to the New Orleans Saints D body. He was great, it feels like. And he was able to do everything, absolutely everything.

[Darius Butler]

On the football legend, you talked about being a ball magnet, but just his overall football iq, like, that was why he found the ball just like a guy like Charles Woodson. It's like, how's this guy always around the ball like those guys study, those guys anticipate. He was on everything. Db I feel like every year, at least a few times every year, just making big time plays. I'm glad he got to finish his NFL career back at home. I'm sure that was special for him. And then his journey. You talked about his journey. We all saw it from, you know, being a Heisman finalist and then having his. His pitfalls or whatever and then get drafted to Arizona. I think he went, what, third or fourth round when he was clearly like a top 10 or 15 talent. And then that's. That's a big. That's a big moment. We always talk about mistakes that happen in your younger years and then how do you respond to that? How do you. And he's a part of. Perfect example of that. I'm sure we'll see more of him, you know, giving it back and pay. Paying it forward, because that's the type of guy he is on and off the field.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. Hopefully we do get more of them. We always talk about dogs, it feels like. And Tyron Matthew, for me at least, him talking to Tom Brady in the super bowl when he was still with Kansas City. And granted, we know how that turned out. You know, maybe it didn't go exactly how he wanted because Tam ended up winning that super bowl by a lot, but it feels like that kind of encapsulate who. Who he was at least on the field. So, you know, I don't know him, but him talking junk to basically everybody. And then you think about in the biggest moments where like, you don't want to maybe talk shit or poke the bear, if you will, but he just didn't care. I mean, him getting in Brady's grill, talking shit. That. That to me is like what football is all about, especially because it's Brady.

[Pat McAfee]

I enjoy the fact his name's Honey Badger, too, which is phenomenal nickname. Yeah. Yeah. Phenomenal nickname. Obviously, the Internet is always going to do its thing. Congrats on a hell of a career. The game will miss you. The game will miss you, man. And I'll be excited to see what he does next. A lot of platforms have a lot of football.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

When are you going to get in tv?

[Shane Lechler]

Right now. And this is it.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you doing? What are you doing right now? Why are you in Indiana? Do you want to tell?

[Shane Lechler]

I'm here for my daughter's softball tournament and we, we travel quite a bit and this is one of our big tournaments, last tournament of the summer. And then she'll turn around on Monday and go right into high school volleyball. So she'll finish up this weekend and. No, actually she'll have one week off and then start up high school volleyball. But Emerson's, you know, she's got offered scholarship to Baylor. Couldn't be more proud of her. My older daughter's playing volleyball at UTSA in San Antonio. So meet me. It's going to be busy, busy after they both are in college and one's playing in the fall, one's playing in spring or summer. It's going to be a lot of traveling, but I'm down a little empty nest.

[Pat McAfee]

But the birds are going to take a little bit of a flight over there. Meet me pretty and to Baylor. Beautiful Texas schools. I am sure you absolutely love that. Let's talk about a Texas school that you love. Texas A and M. Hey, can I tell you, I went. We went down there two times, I think this last year.

[Boston Connor]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

We were there early and then obviously later in the year. I love that place. What a town. Traditions are insane. I mean, people say you guys are weird with it all and you know, everywhere is a cult. I think that is what makes college football awesome is the cultiness of the fans and the passion. I mean in a positive way, not in a negative way. Obviously there are negative cults. I'm not talking about those cults. I'm talking about this being a positive cult, which is what these colleges are. And down there, you know, the cultness is all aligned because it is like obviously the Aggies is agriculture, but I believe it is a military type setup as well. If my research kind of reminds me, well, what a place, what a school, what a town. Who were you in school with down.

[Shane Lechler]

There when I was there? College roommates with Dan Campbell, the head coach, Detroit. Everybody knows Dan.

[Pat McAfee]

How is that?

[Shane Lechler]

How was that? He was my roommate. Like roommate roommate. There was two beds in one room like we had. He came from a. He came from, you know, a family that didn't have that much money. And I came from two teachers too. So it was. That was it. And in the other room was Billy Lucci who runs Tech Sags and Seth McKinney who played 10, 11 years with Miami and then I think Cleveland. But yeah, it was awesome. And being, you know, being with Dan growing up, I guess our whole college career, except for one, he was one year ahead of me, you know, that was awesome. And then winning the 98, we just talked about it the other day. Went in the 98 Big 12 championship game against Kansas State. Getting home late that night from St. Louis. And then I think we went to bed like two nights later.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, so we did it. Yeah. So mcdc is who we thought he was.

[Shane Lechler]

Oh, yes. He is exactly who you think he is.

[Pat McAfee]

You thought he would be a incredible coach.

[Shane Lechler]

I, I just knew his work ethic. I mean, he, he was that type of guy. In the, in the summer before summer off season program started, we were already in there because Dan was kind of like, hey, guys, let's go. You know, let's get, let's get this right. And. And he was kind of the nucleus of that group. It was him. Datwin was the linebacker then. And it was just a great, I guess, probably the tightest team I've ever been around. We all hung out. We all did everything together. And I wouldn't say we were the most talented team that year in the Big 12, but we won it because we were a legit team.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And dogs, I think that's a big deal. And I think the teams that like each other play better. I think that is kind of just like on the record at all levels, High school, college, in the pros, definitely. If you like each other, you're certainly going to be better. Dan Campbell is beloved by every person he's ever met. Is that kind of how that goes?

[Shane Lechler]

I mean, I don't. I've never heard someone say something negative about him.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, when he said he was going to nast, they, they took some shots.

[Boston Connor]

The helmet.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. They're going to, they're going to. They're going to let their jokes fly. This guy isn't normal. This isn't what I'm used to seeing. I hate it. And then whenever he remained that person and they were ass. You guys were ass there for a while. So bad. So, so, so bad. And he just stayed the course. Yes. And didn't change, didn't waver. I love that. And then they get their first win. He cries. Yeah. It's like, yo, this guy says he's going to nod. Kneecaps. He's so proud of his team for finally getting a win. And then the weeks leading up to it, he was like, we're close. We are doing everything right. Never turned his back on his team. Never did anything like that. Took all the shots.

[Shane Lechler]

All of them.

[Pat McAfee]

All of them. And then I think he actually did get bigger. Would like his nutrition routine, please. Everything he's doing. Would love to see what that is. He is an absolute monster, an absolute animal. He said he works out at home. He doesn't work out at the gym.

[Darius Butler]

What do you think his routine involved? You think he's like vegan?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think so.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. Mcdc is not a big meat guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Texas A and M. Yeah, I think that's going to be tough for him to ever be a V. I think he's eaten the dechambeau diet that whenever he was trying to put on the £40 protein shakes a day. Looks like he's always adding.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he might. He might just be eating like 45 pound plates from the gym.

[Pat McAfee]

Like the actual.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, like the actual weight.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I didn't think about that. At least at 25. Because that's a little thinner. Yeah, exactly. You can really get your little treat teeth in. Yeah, there's. He's so big, massive, and he's only getting bigger. I have no idea how it happened. He's always been a dog. So have you. You've always been so kind to me. I appreciate it. Because you're the best in the world. And then I didn't really know how to punt when I got into the NFL. Was kind of learning as I go. And you were always so cool to me, so nice to me. And I watched your film on a very regular basis because we had similar styles.

[Shane Lechler]

Bang it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, sir, we absolutely did. So I appreciate you, man. A lot.

[Shane Lechler]

Yeah. Remember, remember that? The whole saying, oh, he out kicked his coverage. You know, Al would be like, you can't do it. I'm just gonna get somebody faster.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And that must have been nice. Thank you. Yeah, that was dope. Every time somebody. Al Davis drafted somebody for the Raiders and I was younger than, I wasn't a punter at that point, so I didn't have the mindset yet. But every time they were like, Al Davis going to draft the top five fastest guys in the draft. As soon as I got in the NFL and I started learning that, I'm like, all we're looking for is one guy that runs a four. Four. That's all we're looking for. We got a guy, Darius Hayward Bay. He was drafted by him. Drafted by the Raiders. We get him to Indianapolis and for one reason or other, he was making plays for us, which I appreciate. But he wasn't in the full rotation. So I just asked him, like, will you. Will you be a gunner? Will you do that? He. He's like, yes, would want to be a gunner. We put him in a gunner. What a life. What a life. That was. Yes, that was a very good time. He was one of the greatest special.

[Darius Butler]

Play probably six or seven more years after he went to Pittsburgh. Had some good years.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, he was unbelievable.

[Darius Butler]

So fast.

[Pat McAfee]

Wide receiver. Get off, too. So getting off the jam and then he was 4, 3, 4, 5, 4 down the field, and it's like, holy. And then the Raiders team.

[Shane Lechler]

And he wasn't small either, no big.

[Pat McAfee]

And people were scared when they saw him. So fair catches were going up very, very quick.

[Shane Lechler]

Early hand.

[Pat McAfee]

Speaking of Tyree Kill, that's one of my favorite stories.

[Shane Lechler]

My. I punted the ball to Tyreek in. In Kansas City. And at that time, you know, we were outside the numbers against him. Like, to get every ball outside the numbers. If not, get it on the boundary, you know, And I hit a ball and I'm like, oh, this is perfect. You know, it's spiraling, it's tailing right towards the sidelines, and he plants his foot. And you know how, like, when they rush, they run right by you. You hope no one loops back around to come get you.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Shane Lechler]

So I turned to make sure he didn't loop, and when I took. Picked my head up. Tyreek was on the other numbers already and hauling ass.

[Pat McAfee]

Here he comes. Yeah. Antonio Brown, Tyreek Hill, obviously Devin Hester. Cribs was just a different animal.

[Shane Lechler]

Cribs was just so hard to bring down.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, it's fearless.

[Shane Lechler]

Yeah. And I, you know, and I played with Dante hall in college. Dante. And then Dante, you know, the human joystick whenever he went to Kansas City. That guy was unbelievable that he had against Denver.

[Pat McAfee]

Unbelievable.

[Shane Lechler]

Oh, my gosh. There was six blocking the backs on that one.

[Pat McAfee]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. There's always a block in the back.

[Shane Lechler]

No doubt.

[Pat McAfee]

On a long return. I'm like, you throw the flag anytime you see somebody run a little bit. You're just immediately scanning the field is.

[Shane Lechler]

Where'S that yellow shit?

[Pat McAfee]

There is no flag here. This is a real deal here. Oh, the stat's ruined forever. And they're scoring on us immediately. Job fair. You know who doesn't get a lot of love? Pac man was a dog back there. Pacman never had a fair catch. Yeah. There was a season when I turned to the Aussie and I was just hitting it like, 49 yards to the left every time, which turns out obviously very effective. Like, if you can do it. Yeah, you're swinging really hard at that. I was swinging very, very, very hard.

[Shane Lechler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, looking back on it, I'm swinging like. It's basically punting. You know, those wooden drivers that. They have those wooden drivers. And you gotta like really, you gotta hit it out of like the 30s or whatever it was. That's what that is. Basically because the thing, the sweet spot's so small.

[Shane Lechler]

Oh, it's yes.

[Pat McAfee]

So small. And I'm trying to hit it to an exact spot as opposed to just like an area. And it's like I just started swinging so hard at it. And Pac Man, I think I had like, I maybe had zero return yards until like maybe week eight or nine kickoff and punts. I felt pretty good about that.

[Shane Lechler]

That's pretty good.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's pretty good. Then there was a year where I was doing pretty okay and we were playing Pac man and I had a bunch of fair catches and he comes up to me before and he's like, I'm not fair catching one of these things. Not one of them.

[Shane Lechler]

Don't you love when they always come talk to you in pregame warm up?

[Pat McAfee]

I'm like, bro, just fair catch it, we're both out of here.

[Shane Lechler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't fumble it. I get my.

[Shane Lechler]

Everything's good.

[Pat McAfee]

It's going to be 49, 50 yards. Could be worse for you, could be worse for me. This is good. This is a perfect thing. He said, I'm not doing that. Not one time. I'm like, come on, bro, dude. West Virginia, Royal Mountaineer, country road. He just wanted to be known as the guy that never fair caught the ball and he would have somebody right in front of him.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Head straight up like this. Casual too. Like what you're not gonna do shit. He had a fearless mindset. He never gets the, like the punt return talk because I don't think he has as many crib right. But I think he has a lot of block in the back. I think there's a lot of flags potentially against him. Some of those returners are just phenomenal athletes. Tyreek changed the entire game, though, when he showed up back there.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, and they're so good, both those guys, like Tyreek and Pac Man. Tyreek will get talk as a returner, but like Pac Man, I feel like won't just because he was so good at corner played so long. Some of those other guys, they're, they're specifically returners.

[Pat McAfee]

And Tyreek, you know, Antonio Brown's another guy we're not getting talked about as a returner. Yeah, Unbelievable returner. If he was just a full time returner, he'd probably go down as best ever. Yeah. And same with Tyreek. Edelman. Unbelievable.

[Boston Connor]

Edelman was so good.

[Pat McAfee]

Return, unbelievable return.

[Darius Butler]

Pat P. Was. Oh, he didn't play, obviously been in all pro corner. He wasn't back there his whole career, but he was a dog. And reason Pac man, he missed a little chunk of his prime, too. Missed a chunk of his prime with some off the field. And then playing in the same era of Devin Hester. Yeah, that combo just kind of is like playing in the safety area with, you know, Ed Reed and Troy been a punter when Shane's in there, like, it's just certain. Vinny, when he's kicking, it's like, okay, you're not gonna get that recognition. But yeah, if you played against those guys, if you ever. Game plan against those guys. Absolute animals.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Congrats to all the pun returners that literally do make our lives awful. Like, you need to know that. I do think. We do think about you. We do going in. We do think about you. And we all wish that you guys just be cool down there. Just fair catch it. Go on to next week. It'd be good for all of us. Shane, I know you got to get to a game.

[Shane Lechler]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Good luck.

[Shane Lechler]

Thank you, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Appreciate it.

[Boston Connor]

Appreciate it.

[Pat McAfee]

Appreciate you. Let's go get one of these. What is the thing you guys do down here? What is the. The Aggies thing? You know what I'm talking about. I know you do know what I'm.

[Shane Lechler]

About, but I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, you know, it's a war now.

[Shane Lechler]

You're gonna get me in trouble with all the Aggies.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, you know what I'm doing?

[Ty Schmidt]

You know what he's doing.

[Shane Lechler]

It.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that what it is?

[Darius Butler]

Put it on the video game.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What is the saying? Will you tell me at least so I don't look stupid?

[Darius Butler]

I don't know, it's just whoop.

[Shane Lechler]

Like.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, you can't do that.

[Shane Lechler]

Not with the hip.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, they do. They do that.

[Shane Lechler]

You don't need to do that.

[Pat McAfee]

We appreciate you. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a man who's a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion, a Ryder cup winner. No, no, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good, you're good. Yeah, you got. You missed it that time.

[Shane Lechler]

Good luck.

[Pat McAfee]

I knew his face was gonna get. Yeah, yeah. Shane, you're the man.

[Darius Butler]

Bump says Spike.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, good call, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, hit that riser.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Needed that riser.

[Boston Connor]

Offer from Sit Dead Red.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now live from an attic in Ohio is a college football national champion, super bowl champion, Roddy cup winner Friend of the program, family of the program. His family. Ten kids. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J.

[Boston Connor]

Hawke.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Hawker. We're letting our hair grow. It's summer.

[Shane Lechler]

Whoa.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I guess so.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

I don't have any plan, but, yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm letting it grow for a while, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you hear a conversation about the returners and how incredibly freaky athletic they have to be?

[AJ Hawk]

How about the Honey Badger? Honey Badger retired. He was as well. Like, he was an absolute monster.

[Pat McAfee]

What are we talking about? That was. Isn't that was everything? Yeah, yeah. Back there, they. There's an interesting little game that kind of happens pregame that Shane was referring to there where the returners do come up. And I would like to have a conversation with them as well. I would like to talk to them. You know, where is it normal?

[AJ Hawk]

Did most all of them speak to you?

[Pat McAfee]

I would try to speak to everybody. I don't. I don't know. Edelman didn't talk.

[Boston Connor]

I was gonna say Edelman would just. Cold shoulder.

[Pat McAfee]

No, Edelman wouldn't talk to me. I could break everybody else. I could get everybody else. Because my thing I want them to.

[Darius Butler]

Know is, who Jules? He's a prick.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, certainly. I mean, he wouldn't even crack. And then I saw him, like, in the offseason, I'm like, you know, everybody else, I might have. And then I think he was even empowered by that.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, I gotta talk even less.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I think he felt. I just wanted to tell that I wanted to get in their mind. Hey, don't run me over. Sure. Okay. That's all I wanted. All I wanted to get into their head was like, hey, just don't run me over. If you get a thing, you know, juke the shit out of me to do what you got to do. Because then that put in their head that they can run by me, you.

[Ty Schmidt]

Know, bait him a bit.

[Pat McAfee]

That would be. So it was literally a little bit of like, hey, just being cool. Like, hey, if you break one. When you break one, you're so good, man. Just don't run me or my family's here. You know what I mean? Like, just don't do that, because that Antonio Brown.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Can't have that. My family's here. Yeah. My dad can't have that happen. Football is happening, though, in a big way, and we're pumped up for it. I think it's time we go camping, don't you think? Hell, ayyjay. You want to go camping?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I love camping. Let's do it.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's go camping. Ton Digs, what do we have going on?

[Ian Rapoport]

We are fully, fully camping, boys. The Falcons and Steelers replace reported today. So all teams are officially at camp. 26 teams reported yesterday and then we already had four teams in camp before that. So we are going to focus on some things of the teams that were already practicing. You know, there's some videos out there, some teams that you know aren't practicing that people got got. But that's for a different day. Let's start with the Chargers in la. Early indications that Justin Herbert and Quentin Johnson are having an unbelievable first week of camp. They are linking up every single day with a lot of highlights. So I'm looking early and often to see what Quinton Johnson and Justin, her.

[Darius Butler]

Big year for him.

[Pat McAfee]

Can't wait for the Los Angeles Chargers to be who they can fully be. Is what we all expect. Another year in the Harbaugh system. We assume it's only going to get bigger and better out there in Los Angeles. And they got a brand new practice facility. Yeah. Beautiful. How many hundreds of millions.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I, I want to say 3.

[Pat McAfee]

3, $400 million the owner just put up in 2025 to build a practice facility. We love that.

[Ian Rapoport]

As you guys know, not a lot of, you know, fan. I don't know if all the fans know. But the best part, I assume for you guys and for a lot of people watching practices is good on good. So we're going to have alliance camp. They also started early. We got JMO versus Brian Branch here in Lions camp. One on one. That's awesome. Those are like two of the best players on the team. I assume that's all you guys are watching. Especially as a punter in practice. Is good on good in that situation. Debut.

[Darius Butler]

Yes, absolutely. I mean you, you always get jacked up for the one on ones. And aren't both of these guys Bama boys too? So they probably played against each other a bunch in college doing this. But this is a moment where yeah, Pat, Vinnie, everybody's going to be on that sideline watching big on big, good on good. Sharpen that sword.

[Pat McAfee]

Front row. And depending upon who's going in the big boys, like are our guys going offensive line D line like our guys going this. If they're going, we're going to want to go watch Robert Mathis. But if we got our guys going wide receiver, db, that is certainly one that we would like to have eyes on. That is when spectacular things happen. That's when people make the team in those Ones, I mean that's where the stage is yours. Like that's literally what's happening. And that is also where some guys get caught with a four string quarterback. Oh yeah, you can't have it. Well, it's good for you guys.

[Darius Butler]

Don't feel good though because in the training camp for the pros, AJ knows too. We don't really get to go against the starters as much any outside of training camp. You know that early part of training camp, that's when you know Brian Branch, hey, you want to go against, you know a Ty Hilton or whoever those top guys are because you're not going to get those reps, you know, once that season kicks off. So yeah, those are high competes.

[Ian Rapoport]

Let's head back to the the AFC champions from last season. The Chiefs is still the Chiefs in our eyes. A lot of people were talking about it. Travis is looking slim.

[Pat McAfee]

So tall.

[Ian Rapoport]

Pat's looking slim. Super motivated. They were hooking up in practice.

[Boston Connor]

Whoa.

[Darius Butler]

Just jump.

[Boston Connor]

Everyone was watching.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're hooking up. Look at the connection right there. Side. Good connection, great chemistry.

[Ian Rapoport]

They put out a tweet about Xavier Worthy catches even though it was just one catch, which really pissed me off for some reason. But the Chiefs are backing back.

[Pat McAfee]

They said passes. It was only one pass, but it was a great pass. And I forgot that Xavier Worthy was a wide receiver for them. Yeah. And I forgot how fast he is.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, very.

[Pat McAfee]

And then I saw that clip and I was like, chiefs are still the Chiefs. Chiefs are still the Chiefs. And now they're a little bit more. Yeah, these passes were worth the, the weight.

[Darius Butler]

I like it.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's a good tweet.

[Pat McAfee]

You could have just this passed it. Yeah, I agree.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Whenever I looked down and saw the number and it was six seconds left on a video, I wanted to. What the fuck's going on here? I thought we had it.

[Ian Rapoport]

We're back at football. I wanted more highlights.

[Pat McAfee]

We need more is what we were thinking in that.

[Ian Rapoport]

Which speaking of, let's head out to Oxnard, California where the Dallas Cowboys were were in camp. They had their first practice yesterday. It was good to see CD and GP together. Those two are going to be an absolute problem together. And then there was a couple highlights coming out of that camp of Dak getting to GP early. Obviously he's an athletic freak. He looks quick, he looks fast. That's going to be a situation, a fun situation to watch this year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I love Dallas Cowboys have a lot going on and we forget that they got to play football. And Dak and GP are going to be amazing. Micah and Trey held a little bit of a press conference conference out there. Yeah. We see other people getting treated good. We wish that was us. We're here to work for our teammates, though. It's kind of how we view it and we'll just move on. Basically what they said. Yeah, we're not happy. We don't love it. We certainly think we deserve it. But if I'm not going to be here, Micah said I'm about to go show out and it's business at the.

[Darius Butler]

End of the day, you know, it's unfortunate. I'm not sure if he's practicing or what the situation like, I know he has some back tightness, so I hope, Yeah, I hope that gets cleared up soon. And then Trabon Diggs coming out saying, like, they knew where I was training. You know, I'm. I am on pace to recover and be back in time. So it was interesting to have these guys make themselves available together and speaking, you know, when you see TJ get his deal, when you see Miles get his deal, when you see Max get re upped early, you're a top guy. We talk about it going into your fifth year and you've done everything imaginable since showing up to the organization. You expect to get paid.

[Pat McAfee]

Did Saquon and Ed Barry, new president of football at caa, congrats to him. Get that deal done three years early or two years early? It was, I think it was three.

[Ian Rapoport]

Years after his first year. Yeah, obviously.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Who knows if it was three or four year deal. Whatever the case, he got that multiple years early. First year at the place, obviously they have massive success, but it's like players around the league see that. It's like, yo, yo, they're taking care of people over there in Philadelphia. Good for them. They're the reigning champs. Joining us now is senior NFL Insider at NFL Network NFL.com and also the host of the weekly wrap up the Rap sheeting Friends. Us being friends. He being Rap Sheet. Ladies and gentlemen, Ian Rapapore. What's up? Great to see you. Happy Summer Wednesday to you. I hope life is good. Football's back, training camp's happening. Let's start in Oxnard. Over there in California, Dallas Cowboys. Lot of noise, lot of drama. What gets settled? Michael Parsons, Trey Hendrickson. Which one happens first?

[Mike Vrabel]

My sense this whole time is that Micah Parsons will be last. Now, you know, if you're Trey Hendrickson, like, I'm not sure that Trey's deal directly affects Micah because he's going to get a raise if he gets a deal done with the Bengals. Which just to be totally honest, like I thought a couple days ago was today Wednesday, so I thought Monday there was a real, real chance that a deal was going to get done. I think the overall numbers were probably a route about where they should be. The guaranteed money was certainly not, which is where this broke down. And when you have guys like TJ Watt, I mean, the Steelers historically have not done multi year guarantees. They did it for T.J. watt, actually did it for T.J. watt last time, now did it for him again. You know, you see that, and if you're Hendrickson, you want that multi year guarantee. The Bengals weren't where he wanted to be, so that thing kind of blew up. And then he posted a pic from, from Florida.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's gone fishing, brother. See you later. He's gonna be in shape, though. He's gonna stay committed to the sport.

[Mike Vrabel]

He said, I'm, I'm sure I kind of like the geotag, like, you know, Lexus more. It's like, that's a beautiful pick. And then it's just like Florida, like, all right.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, just letting you know exactly where I am. And the sky is beautiful. Look at this sunset.

[Ty Schmidt]

Or maybe, I mean, that's actually sunrise.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Because you could be getting to work, maybe trying to go get a swordfish too. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Or coming back.

[Pat McAfee]

The owners at both these places, Cincinnati and Dallas, seemingly saying very interesting things here to start training camp. What are your thoughts on that? Did they have a call and say these players thinking they're a little bit too important in this league. We got to remind them or why do you think this is taking place?

[Mike Vrabel]

Well, you know, Mike Brown came out and was like, you know, Trey deserves a raise. We offered him a raise. You know, he was optimistic about a deal getting done, which sort of for me was like, all right, I think a deal is probably getting done. It did not. Jerry Jones, you know, was a little different. That was a little bit of a different press conference. I, I, I can't say that I've really seen that many press conferences like that. It's not zero. You know, I remember when Dan Snyder was, was mispronouncing Kirk Cousins name, that kind of what this reminded me of. I mean, Gary Jones called him Michael at one point, which is, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, Brian called him Trey Henderson.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

These guys are old. Give them a break.

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, no, I hear you, I hear you.

[Pat McAfee]

They're close.

[Mike Vrabel]

But you know what's so interesting about Jerry's press conference is like, he really did tell you everything that was on his mind. Like, you want to know why he waits for a deal? Why. Why he's not proactive, like say the Eagles. He really explained it to. He wants more information now. I think with Micah, you know, you don't need more information. Like, I think Mike is content to be the last of these deals. To have, you know, Aiden Hutchinson get paid to have Hendrickson. I was going to say Henderson Hendrickson get paid. I think Micah would like to be last because he probably comes in above all of them, as he should. So, like, yes, I think a deal you'd always like a deal you always would like money now rather than later. But my sense is that Micah ends.

[Pat McAfee]

Up last and most well next three years. You sign a four or five year deal or anything can happen. You ever hear about guys getting mono? Drink out of the wrong bottle, lose 20, 30 pounds. All of a sudden you're not as fast as you once were. All of a sudden, that bull rush ain't too bull anymore. It's more like a young bull rush.

[Ian Rapoport]

Young calf.

[Boston Connor]

Calf rush.

[Pat McAfee]

It is a little calf rush. Had the old bull. Now you get to young cat. All right, go ahead, grab somebody rap sheet.

[AJ Hawk]

You mentioned the with Trey Hendrickson. You said the overall numbers may have looked somewhat near what they should be, but the guarantees do not. For Henderson. What does that mean? I mean, all he cares about, I would imagine is guaranteed and then number of years in the contract. Is that a big holding point or what he said?

[Mike Vrabel]

Okay, so I believe the overall number of years. It's fine.

[Pat McAfee]

It's not fine. We're not disrespecting. We are on this guy's side. He's a sad king right now. Can't get money.

[Boston Connor]

And we can call him by the right name. Okay, this guy's whole entire life sucks right now.

[Pat McAfee]

He's got a beautiful. He loves ball, though. He wants to be a training camp.

[Boston Connor]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

He's fishing.

[Boston Connor]

I bet he loves fishing.

[Pat McAfee]

He wants to be the painted grass.

[Boston Connor]

There's two things he loves, and that's Jesus in football. And guess what he can't do right now?

[Pat McAfee]

Football.

[Boston Connor]

Play football.

[Darius Butler]

Hopefully still talking.

[Boston Connor]

Hopefully he's still talking to Jesus.

[Pat McAfee]

He might be thinking, only talk to God when I need a favor. What a song.

[Darius Butler]

No, that ain't tr.

[Pat McAfee]

Now Trey ain't singing like us. He's talking to God all the time. Every day, which we are appreciative of. You. He actually prayed and twice. Oh, that was a Good prayer. During that prayer. He should have.

[Ian Rapoport]

That was a great.

[Pat McAfee]

Because you would not think that you would shoot.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, you could.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. He should have wished for Mike Brown.

[Pat McAfee]

To maybe, you know, pronounce his name.

[Darius Butler]

Right, give him a new deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Anyways, go back to the. You said the guarantees were at the same. Because he said. Yeah, yeah, go ahead.

[Dan Orlovsky]

So.

[Mike Vrabel]

So my sense is the overall numbers were probably okay, right? So, like, he was going to get a huge raise, like very large raids this year, which basically what you do is you do a two year extension, right? And then you take some of the money and you front load it. So he gets a big raise this year. So he gets more in line this year with what some of the other top, top guys are making, which, you know, would probably put him somewhere in the middle of that graph. And that is good raise this year is good. And that part is guaranteed because he's going to get it.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Mike Vrabel]

But then what a player wants is they don't want to have to go through the same thing next year and say, I'm not guaranteed. Like, what if, God forbid, something bad happens, he has an injury or he doesn't. He's not as productive. Sacks are tough, right? You can play great and not get a lot of sacks. What if he doesn't have the numbers? Then he's like, he doesn't want to be at risk next year. He wants the protection that he has earned, and that is why he wants the guaranteed money. And that really is what the deal broke down over. It's not like, well, the Bengals don't want to pay him. They made an offer. It just. It was not enough. And they are at two sides of the country and like, one's like in the middle and the other is kind of like down here.

[Pat McAfee]

Dutch, it's still a long flight. We did it last week to the ESPYs. The. The. The thought of shitty flight. It was a long flight.

[Darius Butler]

No, I remember it was like an hour. Actual plane, but it was those damn cars.

[Boston Connor]

What happened to you?

[Pat McAfee]

You guys got murdered. They got you in euchre. 40 to 4. Aggregate score. Four games. A.J. did you hear that?

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah. You guys stunk.

[AJ Hawk]

Four points in. In four games, you only got four points.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, and we probably actually had like 42, 43.

[Darius Butler]

I need to start playing like A.J.

[Pat McAfee]

Ch.

[Mike Vrabel]

That's not good.

[Pat McAfee]

Winning.

[AJ Hawk]

You want to win the squad.

[Pat McAfee]

Ian, you said in there. You said in there at one point, you know, sacks are hard to get. What if his numbers are down? Well, he's sacking. He gets that they are hard to get. So pay the guy is what everybody's thinking. Interesting that he was offered a 1 year, 34, 35. If we go by the hints that you were kind of.

[Mike Vrabel]

No, no, it was multi year. Multi year. It's just you take them, you take the money, you front load. So he was going to get a big raise this year. Then there was years on the back end as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, so he wouldn't have been a free agent. It would have been.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, here we looked good, though, Pat. It would have looked good. But then he could have cut him after a year or two, I'm guessing.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Cincinnati Bengals don't here. No offense to Cincinnati Bengals, but you're kind of grandstanding on this particular contract design for a guy that's a sack king at this stage. Nonetheless, good luck to everybody. Rapaport. We. We have one final question for you here from Darius J. Butler.

[Darius Butler]

Terry McLaurin, officially a holdout now up in Washington. Any, I guess, anything going on there with that front office and getting his deal done?

[Mike Vrabel]

Yeah, they're. They're trying. This is another one where, like, I kind of thought maybe they would get it done. Right before the start of camp. They were. They were in talks. There's a lot of conversations. You know, Garrett Wilson gets done at 32.5 yearly average based on new money. Like, sounds to me like that's where Terry McLaurin would like to be in the 30s. Believes he has earned it. He has been one of the faces of this franchise. It's not great now, but he's in town. I saw a picture of him doing yoga earlier today, so he is at least there. If things happen, they are going to keep talking about this one.

[Pat McAfee]

He's doing a power pose right there. I love everything about it. Is this the power pose? That's a good picture. Yeah, it's power pose.

[Boston Connor]

That's strong.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. We hope everybody gets their business settled and handled.

[Mike Vrabel]

I got one quick thing for you.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Mike Vrabel]

You guys did. People might not remember this. It was a long time ago. You guys did a Home Run Derby announcement. It was awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you.

[Mike Vrabel]

I got a text from my mom, who's very excited about it. Do you mind if I read it?

[Pat McAfee]

By all means. Okay.

[Mike Vrabel]

McAfee is on the Home Run Derby. He's on now announcing the players with some guy take out an All Star.

[Ty Schmidt]

Your mom sucks.

[Boston Connor]

Tell her I said that guy's an All Star.

[Darius Butler]

Jeez.

[AJ Hawk]

Guy plays for the Yankees.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, brat. Tell your mom you appreciate her following along. I Don't.

[Boston Connor]

And tell her what Ty said.

[Pat McAfee]

And I think in the state of journalism, you should tell her what. What Ty said. That guy. That guy said. All right. We appreciate you again. All right.

[Ty Schmidt]

At least call me Utter Guy.

[Mike Vrabel]

See you, rap.

[Pat McAfee]

See you, rap. Thank you, Rap Sheet. Have a good one. Jeez. Ladies and gentlemen, have you looked to the left here? It's been kind of hard to focus on this entire thing. Bronnie from the Cleveland Browns is here.

[Ian Rapoport]

Son of a.

[Boston Connor]

Bring some cookies.

[Ian Rapoport]

Sucks every time he's here.

[AJ Hawk]

What's he.

[Pat McAfee]

What is that? Little march here.

[Darius Butler]

I like a good mascot.

[AJ Hawk]

I think he's gonna talk to you, con man.

[Boston Connor]

Is that a bomb? If he talks to me, then that'll be the last thing he does.

[Pat McAfee]

It does have a problem.

[AJ Hawk]

What if that blows up and everyone dies?

[Pat McAfee]

What if that. What if.

[AJ Hawk]

That'd be tough.

[Boston Connor]

Where'd you get that?

[Ian Rapoport]

Carry on our legacy.

[AJ Hawk]

Wait, is Miz gonna jump out of this box?

[Ty Schmidt]

That would be awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Do what? And I'm awesome. Is that. Is Miz in here?

[Boston Connor]

Oh, ball.

[Ty Schmidt]

Maybe.

[Pat McAfee]

I see.

[Ian Rapoport]

I see.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. What is this here, pal? What's going on here? I see the clock in front of it. There's. Yeah. Watch the basketball. So I don't want to trip you. Box is time. Right in front there.

[Boston Connor]

Open.

[Shane Lechler]

This.

[Pat McAfee]

What was this? What was this? Ronny, you're doing a little bit bomby. That was a little bit of a bomby.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, there we go.

[Boston Connor]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Slow, Jack, slow.

[Ian Rapoport]

I like that.

[Pat McAfee]

He doesn't talk like that whole. Blooper. What's in there? Anything? Hey, man, we'll find out.

[AJ Hawk]

Dynamite.

[Pat McAfee]

How you doing? Who's your quarterback? Yeah. No. One, two, three, four. Only got four fingers. That's interesting. You made an adjustment there at the end.

[Boston Connor]

Perfect.

[Pat McAfee]

That was really good play out of you.

[Boston Connor]

You know Blooper? Brownie?

[Pat McAfee]

You know, Blooper, The Atlanta.

[Boston Connor]

The Atlanta Braves mascot.

[Pat McAfee]

Got those big ears you can't hear.

[Boston Connor]

Do you know Blooper?

[Pat McAfee]

Sounds like he's got something. Yes, he does.

[Boston Connor]

You would know, right?

[Pat McAfee]

That guy's a fraud.

[Ian Rapoport]

These things talk, Connor.

[Ty Schmidt]

These things.

[Pat McAfee]

Like the gossip?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, these things talk. Now, don't.

[Ian Rapoport]

No, no.

[Boston Connor]

Just a handshake.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. Nice. Who won that?

[Ty Schmidt]

Hey, dude.

[Pat McAfee]

Brownie. I didn't say, because his head.

[Ian Rapoport]

I gave him. So he looked up here and I shook his head.

[Boston Connor]

Hey, we did not talk. Brian.

[Pat McAfee]

Saw it happen there. Appreciate you, bro.

[Darius Butler]

Respect.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got.

[Boston Connor]

Hey, Brad, you know, let me get a D. Brownie. Come on, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Come on. Brian. Oh, my God. That can't happen for you. Brownie. Brownie. A.J. he's Ohio guy. He's Ohio. Look at his fingers.

[Boston Connor]

Dirty.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. Thank you, Brown. So this is going to go on. Poop.

[Darius Butler]

You brought dog out there to yard.

[AJ Hawk]

No gloves, buddy.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, why'd you throw up? That, like the Star Trek thing. Why is your finger Star Trek?

[Ty Schmidt]

Live long and prosper.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Is that Star Trek?

[AJ Hawk]

I can't even do the Star Trek thing.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, you do your hands always doing it.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, well, I got. Yeah, my. These left too. Yeah. Ring finger pick. They don't work normal, so it's kind of. Yeah, naturally does that now know.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ how do you feel that all NFL teams are back at training camp and that there's a box counting down? Right?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, kind of.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Shane Lechler]

What?

[AJ Hawk]

It is kind of unsettling.

[Pat McAfee]

You're right.

[AJ Hawk]

Like it is. It does make you a bit anxious when you see that counting down. You only have 25 minutes.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, until break it open, chop it open.

[AJ Hawk]

Get Bill out here and chop it open.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he has.

[AJ Hawk]

He has wire cutters with him.

[Boston Connor]

We should just open it right now.

[Pat McAfee]

You should. You're not gonna be able to open.

[Boston Connor]

His brother, I guarantee.

[Pat McAfee]

This is Oakwood. Probably just full of dog anyway.

[Ian Rapoport]

They're super. This is all they have. Let's let them have it.

[Pat McAfee]

To be clear, you guys were dancing in his face when he gave him the old hootie hoop.

[Boston Connor]

I got him so good.

[Pat McAfee]

What if this is just dog? That'd be so good. That would be good. I don't think it is, but I do appreciate the box. I guess we should get the clock.

[Boston Connor]

The result could be dog. There's no doubt.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, we have somebody else in the Thunderdome joining us. He is the. The racer that we love the most. The racer that we. Well, obviously one of sh. Dale.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Shout out. Shout out.

[Ty Schmidt]

Senior.

[Pat McAfee]

Shout out.

[Boston Connor]

Shout out.

[Ty Schmidt]

Shout.

[Boston Connor]

Junior.

[Pat McAfee]

Shout out. But with that being said, a man smoke as well as very good smoke. Jeff Gordon.

[Darius Butler]

Lewis Hamilton.

[Boston Connor]

Carl Edwards.

[Pat McAfee]

I talk about fake race. We're not talking about fake racing. We're not talking about parading around a track driving racing. We're talking about. We're talking about race. Yeah. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Frying pro Kyle Larson, who joining us.

[Pat McAfee]

Now loves as well, ladies and gentlemen, he's a man who is about to race here at Indianapolis Motor Speedway this weekend at the Pennsylville 250 brickyard. Yeah. The cars are going to fly. The attitudes are going to flare. And if this man's racing this man's winning. Ladies and gentlemen, KY. Kyle Busch.

[Boston Connor]

Trying to call Rowdy.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude. I do. I love it. I love it. I love it. Thank you for making this happen.

[Boston Connor]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Why?

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay, well, how we doing?

[Pat McAfee]

I like that. Go around the horn there.

[Boston Connor]

Put on a box, maybe. Is that. Is that now a countdown clock for the race this week?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, the race is right around.

[J]

The race is this weekend. Let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, welcome back to Indianapolis.

[J]

I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me. Great to have you here.

[Pat McAfee]

You are loved here. Obviously racing city. You are obviously racing, man. And for us, you've always been so kind. We appreciate you this weekend. How do we feel?

[J]

I'm looking forward to it. You know, we had a fast race car here last year at Indianapolis. We were right there in the top five. They're coming down towards the closing laps. Kyle Larson stole the win. So we want to make that this Kyle this time.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we certainly do. I think there's been some conversation about your car team, I believe, this week and throughout this entire season. Yeah. How do we feel? Get on the same page as everybody. Do we feel like we're working toward championship operation?

[J]

I tell you, it is. It is not due to lack of effort, that's for damn sure. You know, everybody at RCR back there at the race shop, they're working as hard as they can. Engineers are trying to figure it out and. And look at all the notes and figure out where the speed's at, you know, so balance of the race cars has been pretty good this year. You know, like, the drivability feels okay. It's just the lack of speed. Like, there's just guys that are out there, more speed, they have more potential. You know, they're just a little bit faster.

[Pat McAfee]

So the team aspect of racing, I think, doesn't get talked about a lot. Obviously, in super duper G1 drive to survive, they documented behind the scenes. I've yet to watch the entire series. I don't know how much they talk about how important important that is. Obviously growing up or becoming an adult here in Indianapolis, getting to know you have. I think at this stage, we got kids now, dude.

[J]

I know, I know.

[Pat McAfee]

Isn't that crazy?

[J]

Yes, it is. Damn sure is.

[Pat McAfee]

It is. It is a wild thing.

[J]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I've known you a long time.

[J]

I know it's been good.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I've become an adult out here in Indianapolis, so I learned a lot about the Indy 500 stuff and, like, the racing world is.

[J]

Did you know much of that as, like, a Kid.

[Pat McAfee]

Not at all, really. I didn't know any of it. I know Pennsylvania. No, I was in pennsylvania. But I know pennsylvania is a big racing place, too.

[J]

Right. For indycar stuff with nazareth, Nazareth was around there forever. You never went there either.

[Pat McAfee]

Never A Pittsburgh. We're football town. Football town, Hockey town.

[J]

Yeah. Sixburg.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. Absolutely. Looking for seven with aaron. You know, that's what Aaron's trying to do. But I didn't grow up around racing. Then you realize the engineering, the computers, Everything happening behind the scenes Are just as important. What's going on on race day and at all. How many years is this now for you, Professional driving?

[Ian Rapoport]

Let's see.

[Darius Butler]

This is 20.

[J]

My 22nd season, I believe. 21st. 22nd. I've lost track.

[Pat McAfee]

And you guys race forever.

[J]

Guys are starting to, like, tap out around 44, 45 years old somewhere in there. That's about the number. So, average career, I just. What's that average? 20.

[Ian Rapoport]

20 years, I would say.

[Pat McAfee]

So if you make it past, what, three years or four years. Yeah. Yeah.

[J]

Like, if. If you're a guy who's sort of, you know, if you're winning each year. And you're making your way through after about 4, 4, or 5, you're pretty much. You can go all the way. 20, 25 years.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. How many different styles of racing have you done? Have you done any indycar? You. You wanted to do indycar. I think I would. We would support you if you were to do indycar, by the way, I don't know how that whole process, it.

[J]

Would be the pat mcafee car. Is that what it would be?

[Pat McAfee]

Sure. Done it before. I mean, I've been here before, and we would certainly enjoy that, Especially if we make it a good car. Especially because I know how important that is.

[J]

We're busting news wide open today. Let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So I don't know if the indianapolis motor speedway, the Indy 500, would be on board with that. But if you were to try to do that and get into that. Had you ever raced in an indy car before? Have you ever driven an F1 car before? Have you ever felt how those cars are vers? How?

[J]

I have not. No. Obviously, I've made my way in nascar. I've been in nascar cup series forever, the xfinity series, I've raced. The truck series, I've raced. So I've done all three of those. I've done a couple sports car races Just here or there, and I've never gotten in an indycar. Now.

[Pat McAfee]

So would you think you'd be able to do an F1. He's a massive F1 fan, literally.

[Ian Rapoport]

Do you think anybody could do it?

[J]

It's just a matter of doing it.

[Pat McAfee]

Fast if you're good or not.

[J]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

What is the mentality? Because I think there's, like, a cut off for some speeds for drivers. Right. Like, there's some guys that are. And girls that are able to operate at higher speeds than other people. Like, that is a real thing, that it holds back drivers.

[J]

Yeah. I mean, I think it's a. It's a feel thing. Like when you're a race car driver and you're going out there like you want to push the car to its absolute limits. And for me, what always sort of made me as successful as I was, like, I could push it to that 100.5% line and just a little bit over the edge and yet keep it under control where everybody else sort of lies within that 97 to 98% range. So you can get that little bit out of it. You can. You can make a lot more hay and being able to get those wins.

[Pat McAfee]

We're going flat, right? You know what it's called?

[J]

IndyCar is wide open around Indy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah.

[J]

Stock cars are not. No, we got to lift. We're just so big and we're so heavy, and we.

[Pat McAfee]

We.

[J]

We don't have.

[Boston Connor]

Amen.

[J]

We don't have the downforce either, though.

[Pat McAfee]

D bot has a question for you.

[Darius Butler]

Ky. F1, the movie just came out. Obviously, there have been other movies that have covered motorsports. We know when we see, like, football and sports movies. Some realistic, but a lot of. How realistic are those movies with the team aspect of it and what the drivers are going through?

[J]

Yeah. My favorite movie as a kid growing up was Days of Thunder.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell, yeah.

[J]

Days of Thunder was always my favorite movie. The nickname Rowdy sort of came from that a little bit. I certainly caused my own headaches, let's say one in my younger years. But, you know, the. The Days of Thunder one was. Was pretty real. Like, there was a lot of, you know, the crew chief talking to the car and, like, souping it up and getting it ready to go for the big race and all that. And then the drivers having their rivalry and hitting each other and not liking each other. Like, that was all pretty real. And then you had Ricky Bobby come out, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, his documentary and. Exactly. And.

[J]

And that was sort of a spoof, you know, a little bit of a comedy to what we do and things.

[Pat McAfee]

Like that, but some real shit in there, too. I Bet, Right.

[J]

Yeah. No, no, for fact. I mean, I'm a driver's wife. I don't work like. Yeah, that's real.

[Pat McAfee]

There's some things that they definitely captured in that particular. Obviously they did in a comedic fashion.

[J]

Right, right. So I haven't seen the F.1 movie yet, but I'd be interested to see it. But, like, you know, there's been some other F.1 movies in the past where they were. They were pretty good. Like, they gave you that rivalry of those two drivers back in, and they told the true story of them battling for championships and then one of them obviously getting in a bad crash and, you know, burning and things like that. And so, yeah, it's. I mean, it's. It's. It's the nature of how much you want to put into it and believe in it. But I would say, you know, 80%, probably.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So we need to know that Ricky Bobby thing. Real. Yeah, 80% real. That's what I got from that Pepe Le Pew comes in here and does. Go ahead, Ty.

[Ty Schmidt]

So you mentioned, you know, last year that you thought you had a really fast car here in India and you had, like, the opportunity to win. Is that still. I mean, given what we heard, you know, about your car from, like, the last race. Like, are you. Is that the expectation going into this weekend? And are there specific, like, tracks or courses around where it's like, you may be just. I don't want to say put more into it, but you understand, like, hey, we have a much better shot winning this week than maybe we did last week.

[J]

Yeah, I mean, I would, you know, with. With Indy. I love Indy. Coming to Indy is a lot of fun. I've really gotten pretty good here over the years. I won the race in 15, 16. Should have won it in 17, but we got screwed. We got wrecked out in a late caution restart. But that's bull. I feel pretty good about me here at Indy. And then, you know, the Chevy camp has obviously been really fast here over the years as well, too, Kyle winning the race last year. So I would think that our bases should be pretty close, that we can go out there and we can have a good shot.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ Has a question for you from Ohio.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I know you've been driving for over 20 years. What's your car like now compared to back then? Like, does it take more skill now to be a driver or maybe less? Because I know there's so much parity between the team.

[J]

Yeah, that's. That's a really good question. So the cars the last three years have become more sourced from a single source supplier. So you buy that. Everybody buys their chassis from the same place. The bodies all come from the same place, the parts and pieces all come from the same place. Where years prior to that, everybody always built their own stuff in house. You would build your own chassis, you would hang your own bodies, all that sort. So I would say now the engineering aspect of what little tricks of the trade there are is huge. You know, having the smart people of being able to kind of go manipulate the little bits of gray area is, is way bigger nowadays than, than maybe what it once was. You could always manufacture and build your parts and pieces better than everybody else. Where now all, all of that's the same. So how you assemble those Legos and manipulate those Legos, you got to be better than, than all the other teams.

[Pat McAfee]

Big deal.

[J]

And that's engineering.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you think you would have been a good moonshine runner or no?

[J]

Oh, hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Back in the day.

[J]

Oh yeah. I love the back roads.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what they said started the whole thing, right?

[J]

That's right. Yeah. Moonshine running back in the days, guys souping up their cars. They had to run from the cops.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. Boy, what a time.

[Shane Lechler]

That's all.

[Pat McAfee]

That is literally how it started. Yeah. And then now let's go and get them. On massive tracks in front of hundreds of thousands of people. This weekend in Indianapolis Motor Speedway, there was an announcement as we're coming up on a hard out. We can't thank you enough for coming through. There's a street race, I'm reading it right now at Naval Base Coronado. Do you know about this? It sounds awesome.

[J]

Yeah, it just came out. So we've raced in the streets of Chicago the last couple of years. We've had our a big race there. And so that race has kind of moved off the calendar for now. And we're now going to the naval base in San Diego in replace of that event. So yeah, it's gonna be sweet.

[Pat McAfee]

That's amazing. Happy 250th birthday to the United States of America. And I can't wait to see you.

[J]

Guys ripping big NASCAR drivers right there. They made a huge commercial about it, man. I wasn't invited.

[Pat McAfee]

They're always against you, Ky.

[J]

I know.

[Pat McAfee]

Always against the rowdy one.

[Boston Connor]

Stick it to them.

[J]

I've always got a battle with the sheets over me, man. We gotta go. We gotta get back up to the top.

[Pat McAfee]

Geez, that's a awesome. We can't wait to watch you this weekend. Thank you for stopping by. You are the man.

[J]

I appreciate it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. We'll be on the other side. What the hell's in this?

[Ty Schmidt]

I have no idea.

[Boston Connor]

I'm going with poop. I think that's.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you think? What do you think is.

[J]

There's zone in there.

[Pat McAfee]

There's what?

[J]

Zone. Nicotine pouches. That's full of it.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, geez.

[Darius Butler]

Off Tik Tok.

[Pat McAfee]

What up, bro?

[Boston Connor]

Smart.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep. Right there on his chest.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hell, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, Kyle, you're the man. That's NASCAR right there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that was Ricky Bobby.

[Pat McAfee]

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[AJ Hawk]

Missed it.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Missed it.

[AJ Hawk]

We're already at football. I thought we're still in sports. That's on me. 100. I was not. I did not jump into it all the way either. I tiptoed it, and that's on me. I'm sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I appreciate you making that move.

[Boston Connor]

Petty move.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Because you. You let the. The pack kind of thrive. You didn't hold anything back because you were out of the conversation cycle. And what I want to let you know is we were that way as well. Whenever it kind of all settled in, whenever we drank it down and really let it simmer. Every NFL team is at training camp right now, aj. Every single one of them. Now, these training camps are certainly long, monotonous, and when it comes to news and conversation, they kind of suck. But day one, everybody's at training camp. We are jacked up, aj. Literally. We've made it. And I started the show by saying thank you to all the other sports. Thanks for what you did. We appreciate the hell out of you. Honestly. Tst even. I didn't even mention it. Yeah, it's like TST thing. Soccer, even a Little bit, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

NHL.

[Pat McAfee]

NHL. About the NHL.

[Boston Connor]

Lacrosse.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, there's so many things that are amazing in the sports world, but it feels like today. I talked to Kavanaughs the other day. It feels like today is a day that we would. We can really say we did it. We made it to football season.

[AJ Hawk]

The first day of the year. This is basically the first day of our year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. First day of the rest of our life.

[Darius Butler]

Happy New Year.

[Pat McAfee]

First day of the rest of our lives.

[AJ Hawk]

Seven minutes. We might be dead, but, yeah. Seven minutes and 28 seconds. We might die.

[Pat McAfee]

Very good tech, by the way, that you're that on because some have a delay where you would be at least a second off and then let alone the audio coming from and to. To our ears. Incredible setup we have here. Shout out to Zito production and everybody else has kind of come through. This is a little bit eerie. I will say. Bronnie and Elf.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Walked his ass out here. Big ears, the whole thing. Mascot for the Browns. Brought it out last hour, set it down. Brought a table like him. Don't know where this table's from.

[Ty Schmidt]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't know where this table is from.

[Boston Connor]

Keeps that thing on him legit.

[Darius Butler]

Truly.

[Pat McAfee]

Always strapped. Yeah. Always strapped. He. He dropped this box off, and we assume that. I mean, is this account down to him showing up? What if he pops up out of here?

[Boston Connor]

That.

[Ty Schmidt]

Now that'd be a good trick.

[Ian Rapoport]

Like Chris Angel.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yes. What if he's. What if? That's why he has this.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's why he's in there right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh.

[Darius Butler]

Still holding our hope is miss.

[Ian Rapoport]

Elves are mysterious creatures.

[Pat McAfee]

There is a chance it's miss. I mean, we don't know what's in here. I would like to let everybody know. I do not know what's in here.

[Boston Connor]

If it's the Mason Rudolph helmet without the face mask.

[AJ Hawk]

Possible.

[Pat McAfee]

Anything's possible.

[Boston Connor]

They might have it.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly.

[Ian Rapoport]

That guy's still in the list.

[Pat McAfee]

That's not your NFL vet. Darius J. Butler. Toxic table at Boston. Connor and at Ty Schmidter here and one half of the Hammer Don Cowboys. AP Town. Incredible shirt.

[Ian Rapoport]

Thank you. Thank you. I think you did something on purpose in the first hour. I don't love it. We did a little camp run around. We went through.

[Pat McAfee]

We're going. We want camp.

[Ty Schmidt]

We camp.

[Pat McAfee]

We want camping. Did you see us go camping, A.J. we want camp.

[Ian Rapoport]

We had the Chargers. We had Lions. We had the Chiefs, the Cowboys. And you knew something was. Was coming. And I feel like you're like, you know what? We need to get rappers on right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, maybe.

[Ian Rapoport]

There is one situation in the NFL that's actual quarterback competition. That's Colts. And boy, we got a. A view of that competition today. And the boys are sl. Danny D. Ar.

[Darius Butler]

This is.

[Pat McAfee]

That's one.

[Boston Connor]

Kim Mo, Ali Cox.

[Pat McAfee]

Jump. Good Lord. This is one throw.

[Ian Rapoport]

Well, I'm just saying, maybe these people didn't see this yet and we were just out here. We won.

[Pat McAfee]

There's no reason to take that down.

[Ian Rapoport]

We gotta let people know how people got to know what the competition's doing.

[Pat McAfee]

Frozen. It's frozen.

[Boston Connor]

It's frozen on this.

[Pat McAfee]

What are we doing? Stop, stop, stop. Can we get this? We put a picture up there. Can we put something different up there? Thank God.

[Boston Connor]

Jesus, what a ball.

[Darius Butler]

I saw a lot more throws from here, and they were all good. Right on the money.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, dimes, throws.

[Boston Connor]

Was anyone move on?

[Pat McAfee]

Let me tell you, it's the first couple of days of training camp. Defense has a head start always. Please agree. True, AJ Agree.

[AJ Hawk]

Defense definitely has a head start. This was routes on air, but yes, defense does have a head start. When you go team drills.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, that threw me off, too.

[Pat McAfee]

That's freaking me out a little bit. That's my first.

[Boston Connor]

What happened, seeing that the top right.

[AJ Hawk]

It's like Inception.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, shit.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no, no. I think it's. I think it's good. People are wondering what is up here.

[AJ Hawk]

What if it just slings. It just slings human turds in four minutes?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, it could.

[Pat McAfee]

420. All right, let's talk a little bit about. Let's talk a little bit about some other news happening around the NFL. Head coach of the New England Patriots, Mike Vrabel has introduced himself to the local media. Run it. This is awesome. AJ How'd they do? You know, how do you feel about how the guys came back?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, whether you were in a.

[Pat McAfee]

Coma when I answered Tom's question or typing on your phone or tweeting. I don't know.

[Dan Orlovsky]

But I spent five minutes answering that.

[AJ Hawk]

Question, and I can go back through.

[Pat McAfee]

It, but I'd rather not, you see, So I don't know. You might have been doing your job. Okay, well, I was answering this question. You're gonna have to go back and do it. And that's. We believe, Ben. Ben Bolan and Tom, that he referred to Curry, guys who have been covering New England and the Patriots for a long time. I assume Vraybold knows them. I would assume definitely Tom. I would assume that Vrabel knows them. And I appreciate the fact that that is the Vrabel we have seen in press conferences in the past. And I assume there will be some sort of conversation with him and Ben at some point throughout this season that we will enjoy. But I like the VRA, was not scared to be himself at all. Day one feels like he's entering his 10th year as the coach of the Patriots with how comfortable everybody seemingly feels about him being the leader.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, a thousand percent. Everyone's so pumped about the season in New England, of course with Drake, man, everything like that and you know, Vegas having them being favored in 11 games, all that type of stuff. But this is why everyone in New England thinks the Patriots are back or knows the Patriots are back is because Mike Vrabel's doing this type of stuff. He's probably I'm assuming when he's talking to the team it isn't as much as hey, we're going to help these guys along like we ran earlier in the offseason. I expect today being the beginning of oh, Mike Vrabel, hard ass. Here we go. We are really starting to do this thing. But it's just great to have this back in the NFL regardless that that it's the Patriots. Just Mike Vrabel burying reporters is just good for everybody.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's good for the season. I mean it's been. Probably don't feel that way. It's the first day of training. Yeah, sure. It's like it's like Jerry Jones or Brian Barry and their players in the first day of the entire thing. It's been an interesting start age. It's been an interesting start to this season.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. But don't you think this will at least I know that reporters are obviously typing up his answers, but they're going to be. They're going to be making eye contact. I would imagine from here on out when Braves is answering one someone else's.

[Pat McAfee]

Question, I would think they'd already talk about that.

[Darius Butler]

Set a precedent.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. For every across the league. You know, I think you guys should say thank you to variable. If I were you guys, I would be saying thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't give a lot of press conferences but I do feel as if like somebody wants me to give a comment on something. It's like I talk for anywhere between two and a half to four hours a day. I assume I have said I've touched.

[Boston Connor]

On that a thousand.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you can go get. That's a little. Sorry. You got to do a little bit of looking. You know, it's like we are so. I couldn't even imagine if Rabel did that. I still have yet to hear the.

[Boston Connor]

Answer I have not heard.

[Pat McAfee]

I've yet to hear the answers that Ben clearly did not hear. But you could see how frames immediately after answering that, just being like, nope, this ain't how this is going to go. Yeah. Just want to let you know that. What a dog. They good this year, H?

[AJ Hawk]

I think so, yeah. I don't know what that means exactly, but, yeah, I think they're much better.

[Pat McAfee]

How'd you feel about Pete Carroll saying, we're going to win? Man, I don't care.

[Darius Butler]

I like that. Set the tone early and.

[Pat McAfee]

And they play each other.

[Darius Butler]

He's a winning coach. You got a quarterback. It's not like you got a rookie quarterback trying to figure it out. You got some good piece. They signed some vets, so, yeah, I came here to win.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, we are under.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, did the clock disappear right now?

[AJ Hawk]

No, it turned red for death.

[Pat McAfee]

I can't see it from where I'm at.

[Ty Schmidt]

40 seconds.

[Darius Butler]

Fire.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, no.

[Pat McAfee]

Let me know when it gets to 30.

[AJ Hawk]

Would you rather be dog poop or human poop in there?

[Boston Connor]

Dog, human, for sure.

[Ty Schmidt]

30.

[Boston Connor]

Love human poop. Who does it.

[Pat McAfee]

Get?

[Ty Schmidt]

My ball mid on.

[Pat McAfee]

Just in case.

[Ian Rapoport]

Don't trust the bride.

[Darius Butler]

I just need to tell you.

[Pat McAfee]

What's it at right now?

[Ty Schmidt]

Just hit 20.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

18, 17, 16, 15, 14, 13, 12, 11, 10.

[Pat McAfee]

Good luck to everybody.

[Boston Connor]

Nine, seven, six.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll jump on it. Five. Boys. I will jump on it.

[Boston Connor]

Thank you, sir.

[Pat McAfee]

Two, one.

[Ian Rapoport]

It's unlocked.

[Boston Connor]

It's close.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Second.

[Pat McAfee]

Shoot him. We missed his run. We missed his run. Oh, my God.

[Ty Schmidt]

The lock did pop.

[AJ Hawk]

I thought it did on its own.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, it's the helmet.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's a new Cleveland Brown helmet.

[Pat McAfee]

What? Okay. Okay. So, Bronnie. What? This is the alternate helmet. Is this thing gonna beep the whole time, Brownie, or.

[Darius Butler]

Sounds good.

[Boston Connor]

It's still be.

[Ty Schmidt]

Shut that goddamn thing up.

[Boston Connor]

Your ears are massive. It must sound. Well, this is the last one we do here with Brownie. Thanks for coming, Brownie.

[Darius Butler]

He's all. You got four fingers.

[Pat McAfee]

Brownie, I got good news for you. Don't worry about any of that. Yeah, the only thing that's left standing. Jesus Christ.

[Darius Butler]

Of course.

[Pat McAfee]

I think that's good news for the new alternate helmets for the Cleveland Browns. How often will we wear this this season? How often will we be wearing these? Three times. Wow. Three times. Okay. These are beautiful. What color jersey probably will be worn? Same color. Oh, we're going color rush.

[Boston Connor]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Matte Brown. What is that? We like this. Yeah, it is a matted brown. Obviously. Got to earn your own stripes out there in Cleveland. I mean, that's what you got to do. Brownie, you getting one of these helmets on that big ass head of yours. Congratulations. This is really cool. I like all the alt uniforms, alt jerseys, alt helmets. I like the way the NFL creates. And this one is called the Alpha dog. Oh, great name. Yeah. I'm just getting out, getting information here. The Alpha Dog. It's a helmet that features a matte all brown shoe shell, brown stripe between two orange stripes in the middle of an all brown face mask. This will be the first time in the history of the organization that brown helmet will be worn. Wow. Cleveland Browns wearing a brown helmet. First time ever. Respect that Alpha dog embodies what we set out to be. Is the Cleveland bronze leaders of the pack.

[Darius Butler]

I can't wait.

[Boston Connor]

See, that's a master. You see what I'm saying? That's a master.

[Pat McAfee]

Pros pro right there.

[AJ Hawk]

Get right in his face.

[Pat McAfee]

Right in his face. Alpha Dog.

[Boston Connor]

No flubs. That's a mascot.

[Pat McAfee]

We're excited about this new alternate helmet. In the ode it pays the rich history of the color brown as part of our organization switching it up from our iconic orange helmets said J.W. johnson, who's the Cleveland Browns all executive vice president and partner.

[Ian Rapoport]

Those are cool.

[Pat McAfee]

These are the Alpha dogs. And as the presenting sponsor of Alpha Dog dude wipes.

[Ian Rapoport]

That makes sense.

[Pat McAfee]

Makes sense.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

All brown.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Remember they were gonna give away 100 grand. Yeah. A brown streak. First one says it's ever happened.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Still never happened.

[Pat McAfee]

Initiated. It's one of its kind. Stunt on Lake Erie with a covered object on a 20 foot barge 100 yards offshore from Huntington Bank Field yesterday. Following the announcement of the alternate helmets today, the object was unveiled to be a large inflatable dude wipes and browns brown helmet to help bolster excitement. Okay.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep. And it did.

[Pat McAfee]

It did. And it's pumped. Yeah, I can't wait to watch anymore.

[Ian Rapoport]

Because you're moving away from the city.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You guys are moving a little bit into the suburbs, huh?

[Darius Butler]

You don't.

[Pat McAfee]

Ah. Moving on up. You guys still gonna have dogs or not up there in the suburbs?

[Boston Connor]

I mean, he's got our favorite player pet.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. Rock, paper scissors right now.

[Ian Rapoport]

Jerry.

[Pat McAfee]

Jude, am I keeping this helmet? Rock, paper scissors. Rock, paper, scissors for the helmet.

[AJ Hawk]

Best of three with a box and.

[Pat McAfee]

A table and all my. Yeah. You knocked over Olympic gold medalist. Tyrese out. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about. Don't keep your four fingers. Fingers. Eight fingers.

[Boston Connor]

Don't. Don't touch.

[Pat McAfee]

Touch of a.

[Darius Butler]

That an advantage.

[Pat McAfee]

What should I throw? What should I throw?

[Boston Connor]

I would.

[Darius Butler]

You always start scissors.

[Boston Connor]

I. I would go scissors. Because he can't really.

[Ian Rapoport]

Scissors would be hard for him to throw.

[Pat McAfee]

So I'm a guy who throws rock every time.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, I think. I think that's all he's got in his bag, though.

[Pat McAfee]

No, he can do scissors.

[Boston Connor]

I don't think he can. I don't know if he can.

[Pat McAfee]

Big ass ears. He might throw plate or something like that.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, that'd be a good move.

[Pat McAfee]

Move. Satellite with the ear maybe gone. That's what his ears look like.

[Darius Butler]

He's not going scissors.

[Pat McAfee]

Best of three. He's four fingers. We don't know if you can even throw scissors.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, he just. Oh, he just did.

[Darius Butler]

Now you know he's not throwing it.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you wouldn't do that again. Look at. You're an elf. You got a little baby brain. A big head, though. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, I'm throwing rocks. No, go back to your tree, elf. I'm throwing rock to you. I'm throwing rock right now.

[Ian Rapoport]

Are you supposed to be blue?

[Pat McAfee]

It's rock, paper, scissors, shoot, right? I'm throwing rock. What are you throwing? Oh, we'll see out there.

[AJ Hawk]

He won't. He won't.

[Pat McAfee]

Rock, paper says he shoot. You said we'll tie. You said. He said tie.

[Boston Connor]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Smart. I'm doing it again. We got off. Are you doing it again? I'm doing it again.

[Darius Butler]

You guys always.

[Pat McAfee]

Are you doing it again or no? I'm throwing rock. Rock, paper says yeah, you're a liar.

[Boston Connor]

Wow. Elves can't lie. They die if they lie.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm throwing rock again. What are you throwing? Scissors. You've told me that twice now. You haven't thrown it yet.

[Darius Butler]

I like this guy.

[Pat McAfee]

He's got a little moxie.

[Boston Connor]

You know why he has moxie? No words.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I don't like that. I can't see. Yeah. Can't hear.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, poker face.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, I would like to be able to see, you know, the soul in there. You know what I'm saying? What are you throwing?

[Boston Connor]

Elves on our souls?

[Pat McAfee]

You're throwing scissors. No, they don't. You've lied to me twice, though. All right, I'm gonna throw a rock again. Or am I? Oh.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, here we go.

[Boston Connor]

Game seven.

[Pat McAfee]

Game seven.

[Boston Connor]

Swing off is a one.

[Pat McAfee]

Swing.

[Boston Connor]

Swing off.

[Pat McAfee]

Ready?

[Darius Butler]

What we live for?

[Pat McAfee]

This is for. It's for the alpha dog. We need that helmet, man. It's for the Alpha doll. We need it. He won't throw a rock every time. Woody, you think I would. No, I wouldn't do that. What are you throwing? Oh, wait a minute. Wait a minute.

[Ian Rapoport]

Son of a.

[Pat McAfee]

You ready? Oh, he threw.

[Ian Rapoport]

He was.

[Pat McAfee]

God, he's first rodeo. Not afraid. I'm throwing. I'm throwing rock. What are you throwing? Scissors.

[Darius Butler]

Sticking with it. Got him.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you, sir. Yes. That was a great game.

[Boston Connor]

With a Gold cop.

[Pat McAfee]

That was a great game. That was a great game.

[Darius Butler]

Good luck this year, Brown.

[Pat McAfee]

That was a great battle. That was really a good battle there. Holy.

[Boston Connor]

I'm told Brownie.

[Ian Rapoport]

Six five ish.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, okay. Good luck all four of your quarterbacks.

[Ian Rapoport]

Six, five, six, six.

[Pat McAfee]

Good luck on these new helmets. Great performance today. Brownie said, what's up? Go word, Brownie. Yeah, tell Jerry Judy we love them.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, tell Blooper.

[Boston Connor]

He says, shut up.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't know Blue.

[Boston Connor]

He said. He did.

[Pat McAfee]

That was a big win.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, that was huge.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, that was a good game.

[Boston Connor]

Dude, throw that helmet on. It's yours now.

[Pat McAfee]

It was hard. I couldn't, you know.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I couldn't see him. It's tough.

[Ty Schmidt]

And Brownie had good pizzazz there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he really did. He had. He had solid. It's got the thing in it.

[Ian Rapoport]

Oh, it's fake.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, it's a fake gimmick.

[Ian Rapoport]

Shocker for that organization.

[Boston Connor]

Brownie Brown's a good mascot.

[Ian Rapoport]

I like Brownie.

[AJ Hawk]

These are a lot cooler than those Indianapolis Knights uniforms we saw last year.

[Pat McAfee]

She grew up tall and she grew up right with them Indiana boys on them Indiana night. It's great jersey. What are you talking about? Yeah, they got the.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, just like your helmet usually matches the jersey and stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, it was a daytime game because we didn't have any Prop Top games. Cuz that stayed franchise at the time. But now we're all the way back, so it doesn't matter. Those are cool. Brown's never having a brown helmet. Yeah, that feels weird.

[Boston Connor]

That's crazy. I guess the orange is pretty iconic.

[Shane Lechler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Anything we haven't covered before? We launch into a beautiful conversation with Dan Orlowski that we had earlier today. Things that we need to hit. Brewers almost gave away the city of Milwaukee. George Webb in his restaurants almost gave away hundreds of thousands of burgers. The brewers actually, if they win 12 straight games, these George Webb's famous restaurants around town gives away free burgers. It's something that they've had in place for a long time. In 1987. It happened. And they had the same thing. They give away 170,000 burgers. They feel like they were doing their part to motivate the brewers and motivate the city to be invested in this brewers team. And it was about to happen again. This would have been the third time in the history of the promotion. 2018, I think it happened. They gave out vouchers and stuff. It was a little different than it was in 1987. 1987 is the greatest year of all time. Anyways. It's phenomenal year. Such a good year. So there was a chance that hundreds of thousands of burgers were about to be given away last night. And guess who was on the bump.

[Ty Schmidt]

Big Miz.

[Pat McAfee]

Big M. The heater. The flamethrower Miz. This guy is awesome. Remember, everybody's pissed off that he was in the All Star Game. Well, it turns out Maze loses. I don't know if it was his loss. It was somebody else.

[Ty Schmidt]

He only threw three and two thirds, but he didn't give up any runs. He had a bunch of strikeouts. He threw it really, really fast every time. He's unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

And Cal took him.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Big Dumper was the guy who Milwaukee is collectively going to hate now for eternity because no free burgers.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, there's a chance they can win the next 12 games.

[Ty Schmidt]

Could you could, sure.

[Pat McAfee]

The next 12 games.

[Ty Schmidt]

They are the best team in the NFL, MLB right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Rumors are the real deal. What's the other big time story out of baseball right now? There's about to be a guy that has a lot of dongs about to be traded. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Eugenio Suarez, the third baseman for the Diamondbacks has I believe 36 homers now. He's hit five homers in like the last three games. And Jet passing basically said, yeah, there's like a 90 chance that he is going to be traded. All the teams who are really good, who are kind of going all in want to get him. Also sh pitch yesterday. He's homered in four straight games. So he's kind of starting to heat up a little bit. But the Dodgers are a sliding a little bit. They have not been good over like their last 13 games or so. And then the last big thing I'd say yesterday was SK day. His er is under two. He threw another gem like he. He's unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He said, I saw some stat that he would be 29 and 1 with average hitting or something like that. Is that real or not? Does that even mean.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, anytime I see stuff like that, I think that's just like, you can't really do that. But he gets no run support. Like, he. He should not have the record that he has. And obviously we talked to Jet and he kind of said, like, there's a good chance he still wins Cy Young because his stats are unbelievable. He just doesn't have the win losses because, yeah, they. They don't hit for him, but they don't hit for anybody.

[Pat McAfee]

Baseball is doing its thing, though.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, without a doubt.

[Pat McAfee]

And we're about to have a little baseball time. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

With trade deadline will really start heating up now. So, like, all the teams who are kind of. You'll. You'll see who's going to declare it, like, themselves as, like, hey, we want to go win a World Series this year. There'll be several of those teams kind of be making big swings, and then we'll see what else happens.

[Pat McAfee]

You're talking about the Pittsburgh Pirates.

[Ty Schmidt]

Pittsburgh Pirates are going to be the other direction. Basically, Paul Skeens is off limits, and everybody else can be traded.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. Okay. Baseball's awesome. Football is amazing. Hey, guys, it's CD Lamb, wide receiver for the Dallas Cowboys. I'm partnering with Abercrombie this season to tell you all about their viral denim. All you need to know is denim should fit like this. My jeans need to check a lot of boxes. Fit first, trend second. They need to go with whatever I'm feeling. And Abercrombie Denim has it down whether I'm throwing on a tee or putting a whole fit together. Shop Abercrombie denim in the app, online and in store after Zumi's at the dog park, it's time for drive up at Target. In goes a big bag of kibble and one squeaky chicken toy for the good boy. Drive up. That's ready when you are. Only in the Target app. Just tap Target. And our conversation with Orlovsky earlier was special, too. Let's go to that now. Oh, we got the windshield wiper fart thing right back in play all of a sudden. Let me guess. You didn't fart today when it happened. Can you please not fart? Last time I seen you in this vehicle, you all over yourself.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Well, not fart, I promise.

[Ian Rapoport]

Dan, this is the best your beard has ever looked.

[Pat McAfee]

And also your hair. You look kind of cool. You look kind of lit, bro.

[Shane Lechler]

The touch of touch salt.

[Ian Rapoport]

The touch of gray. Yeah, it looks real good.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, wait till you get to mine. Just straight white, bro. I'm getting straight white.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Summertime.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm Bob Summertime.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Tell you one thing.

[Pat McAfee]

How old are you? Patient 38.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Dude, I'm 41. I turned 42 in a month. Thanks. I'm. My body is changing. I feel like I'm like a 60 year old person. I have no idea how people my age can. My hair is gray. I stubbed a toe yesterday on a bounce house.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that's after. Broke it more than anything. Bounce house also soft. Yeah. Yeah. I think maybe mentality is a part of your problem. But also I agree with you.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

I used to. I used to not stretch. I used to not warm up. You know, like what prime says. Like, you ever see a cheetah stretch? Never see that. You know, that whole thing. I firmly believe that. I think I was the only kicker and punter in history to not believe in stretching and everything like that. I'd be able to just wake up. It happened training camp. I took a nap. Haptics and sounds. Did not get the Alarm. Punt period's first period. It's 11 minutes from when I wake up to the start of punt period. And I just. Locker room pads on to the field. Bombs. Just fucking bombs. And I was like, pretty proud of me. I was like, look at me. I still got it. If I was to do that now, it would require three surgeries. I think my hamstring would be gone. Hip flexor and probably my back. And also not even think about the amount of anxiety I would have sprinting over. That might pull a muscle Achilles in my brain. It might blow an Achilles. Yeah, you're right. It's crazy how fast it happens. So that leads to this so quick. Aaron Rodgers like 50 years old, playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers right now. Now there are some Pittsburgh Steelers fans who obviously will hold against you everything you've been saying this offseason about the Pittsburgh Steelers. But on that note, we are now at a point where the Pittsburgh Steelers are loaded. TJ Watt back highest paid non quarterback in the history of the NFL. Obviously they got DK for 30 mil. Darius Slay comes in, let alone Jalen Ramsey. And oh yeah, Aaron Rodgers now already stacked roster with a lot of vets who have had a lot of success. Just haven't been able to really get over the hump. What are your expectations on this Pittsburgh Steelers team? And we talked about this earlier. Aaron Rodgers slept in the dorms that night before training kick. When you want to talk about being excited to be there, I think that is how you would be describing that situation. So what are your your thoughts on the Steelers now after all the shit you talked this offseason, Dano, the season.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Comes down to three things. Reality when it comes to the ultimate goal. Number one, this is the biggest question mark in the offensive line. Not only get improved, but stay healthy for an extended period of time. This isn't Rogers of four or five, six, ten years ago where he can move and kind of COVID up for that stuff. And this was a very poor offensive line last year when it came to pass protection. So can that offensive line take a massive jump? If they do, then I think this offense has got a chance to be good. The second part, Roger's health. Can he stay healthy? Not. Maybe not for like as close to 100 as possible, but can he be at least 80 plus percent health? November, December. Like, can he feel as healthy as he kind of looked at the back three or four games of last year? And then the third thing will be reality of him and Arthur Smith when things go poorly. Like, him and Arthur Smith are both strong personalities. I've sat with Arthur Smith before. You guys have had him on your show. Great dude, good coach, strong personality. So, like when things maybe hit lulls, when they have some moments of struggle, when there's some lack of continuity, how does. How do they work together and figure it out for. For the great. The. The big scheme of the offense? And I think those three things will determine kind of how good this offense and team will be. I still find it to be a good football team now that they've made their final moves. I do not believe this is a Super bowl contending football team.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Okay, so that's a wild thing for all the moves they made with all the vets that they had have with the amount of success that they've had without this type of roster. You saying you don't think they're a Super bowl contending team? I think goes against what everybody in Pittsburgh feels like this team is supposed to be. I think everybody views this as a, hey, we're going all in. I think Cam Heyward even mentioned in the off season about how, you know, we don't know how many more years we got in this entire thing. We got a lot of vets here. And Omar Khan, obviously the con artist. Shout out to him. General manager of the Pittsburgh Steelers, who's been in the Pittsburgh Steelers organization for a long time. I like the fact that he's got the Rooneys on board too. Like, hey, let's go make some plays here. The inserts are happy. I assume the Steelers are happy. And you brought up a good point there with Arthur and Aaron's relationship that I haven't thought about. November, those two. Holy shit. I hadn't even thought of it until he mentioned it was like, how are they going to get along? I see them getting along swimmingly. I think both of them very deep thinkers, even though people wouldn't give a lot of credit to either of them or football players for that. Love your takes there, Dano. We'll see how it goes. You're going to get clipped though, if it goes well for the Steelers. On that note, AP Tone has a question for you.

[Ian Rapoport]

Yeah, Dano, I appreciate you saying that you do think the Steelers do have a shot. That's super bowl just then. I do appreciate that. But besides them in the afc, is there a world that we live in that it's not Chiefs, Ravens or Bills?

[Dan Orlovsky]

I do not see that. I think the AFC championship game comes out of those three teams. You know, I think the Ravens have the best roster in the afc. This is like the third year where we said it's the year for Baltimore and I think that Buffalo is going to be just as good as they have been and they've got a quarterback that you know is as good as anybody outside of Patrick. And then obviously the Chiefs will be an improved football team and specifically offensively what they were last year. But I will say this Tone digs like because we all expect those three to be the top three players. The next group, like the next two, three, four teams that you realistically sit there and say, yeah, they got a chance.

[Darius Butler]

Dolphins.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I'm going to tell you, I think Houston's going to be awesome this year. I think Houston has like a little bit of a massive bounce back here. Their defense is absolutely loaded and there's a little bit of a mixed mismatch or mix in match with their offensive line. They missed or moved on like three or four pieces. New offensive coordinator. I think they're going to be awesome this year. Everyone stupidly talked about this regression for C.J. stroud last year. His numbers weren't all that different than they were his rookie year. More interceptions, no doubt, but offensive line was bottom five in the NFL. He's lost his number one, number two, number three wide receiver. So like I think that that football team is.

[Pat McAfee]

It was tough here. Absolutely.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I think it's going to be fantastic. I think Denver is going to be absolutely awesome. They'll have the best defense or second or third best defense in football and I think Bo Knicks will only improve but their offensive line and be top six, top seven in the League. So I think if I had to pick two other teams that I really believe, like deep down, full roster can get there, it would be them. Obviously, Cincy with their defense is massive question marks. Their offense can score with anyone but the Chargers. I want to see how good their weapons play on the outside. But those would be two teams outside of those top three that I'm like, yeah, watch them.

[Pat McAfee]

Denver's fun to think about just because what Bo Nix became at the end of the season, you know, in the way he is fiery too. I mean, Bo Nix is a fiery guy. Him and Sean Payton's interactions on the sidelines last year were incredible. I really enjoyed Sean Payton came out and said he still got some Ferris Bueller in him. And I didn't know what that meant. I did not know what the. I'd seen the movie. I did not 100% know what it meant. But I think what he was trying to say is, yeah, he's still. Yeah, we're still growing in this entire thing. Sean Payton loves this dude. Yeah. And Sean Payton is a great ball coach. So we just assume if Sean Payton and the quarterback get along, they're going to win games. But that is a tough division over there. Dude, you just mentioned the Chargers. I mean, I just watched Jim Harbaugh poke his head out behind a big tarp, you know, two of them being. I watch him explain. It's a peripheral view exercise. Basically, I'm just moving these things. So then Justin Herbert can't see the wide receiver, don't know when he's coming out. Also, wide receiver doesn't know when the ball's coming. It's my job to watch the quarterback. So he's right there watching the quarterback and then with his other hand, he's directing the person behind him to either go one way or the other. So Justin Herbert doesn't know which way the person's coming and then he's going to throw it to him. So he has to have his head there because he's got to see the quarterback, but he's got to have it closed because Herbert can't see which way wide receivers going.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I've never seen this drill before in my life.

[Pat McAfee]

He loved it. He broke it down for a minute and a half. I watched him yesterday break it down. Yeah, it's just, you know, because you can't always see the ball. You could tell he was a big fan of the drill. I've never seen the drill either. And then as you're watching him played, it's like, this is A pretty genius for both the quarterback and the wide receiver. It's smart. Quarterback, wide receiver. That ball pops up out of nowhere and it's like if you drop it, get him out of the league. Get him out of the league. And for a quarterback, you're standing there, sometimes you, you can speak to it much better than me. Can't see you're just throwing to like a window, basically hoping they get there. That's the difference between NFL and college, I think. Right. NFL is like you're this room. College is like you got like this amount of room.

[Dan Orlovsky]

And I often say it like covered in. College is open in the NFL.

[Pat McAfee]

Has to be mindset wise.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah. Like you can great quarterbacks throw guys open. Like there is, you know, there is no quote unquote defense or for the perfect throw. And so, you know, in the NFL if there's an opportunity to throw the guy to a space, and that's why so much of it comes down to ball placement. So much it comes down to touch. Can you throw a guy that might be covered out of his cut to a space that he's open two or three yards from the opening of that cut or the top of that route. That's what makes guys like, you know, Purdy's great at it. Two is great at it. Honestly, I would tell you that guy was probably one of the best at it. That doesn't get enough. And Geno Smith is one of the best at it. Stafford's ridiculous at it. Joe's ridiculous at it.

[Pat McAfee]

So obviously your best of all.

[Dan Orlovsky]

These guys are special. Aaron's been ridiculous at it.

[Pat McAfee]

Best of all time, they say. Right. I don't want to, I don't want to speak out of pocket, but like Aaron's ball placement and shit is what he is. That's. He is the guy. Right?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, Aaron's, Aaron's ball placement is as good as anybody's. I think you know, would tell you. Yeah, Montana. Yeah. But Stafford's is Marino ridiculous, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Marino. Montana. Aaron Stafford, I think are the conversations for prettiest dots that gets thrown.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I think Elway.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yep.

[AJ Hawk]

La.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I guess Peyton too could throw. But he, he was a timing guy, you know, I mean he is timing everything.

[Boston Connor]

I mean we watch Josh Allen.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, Josh Allen's got a hose. Yeah. I mean we can go through them all. Yeah. But Aaron like created the back shoulder all but like he was the one that like started just taking over. Hey, so if I put this thing on your back shoulder while you're running 22 miles an hour. It's unguardable, right? That's basically what it was. I remember for.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I'll give you a quick Aaron story about like that type of throw we were playing there, I'm going to call it 10 years ago, so 20, 13, 14, 15, somewhere around there. I think our defensive coordinator was. Who's the D coordinator? Terrell Austin down in Pittsburgh. And he was our defensive coordinator in Detroit at this point. And our secondary was good. We had like Darius Slay, Quandary Diggs, and we were. I was running the scout team in practice and it felt like every rep, our defense down in the red zone would just all out blitz. You like play zero play, man to man coverage. Everybody was blitzing. And like on Thursday or Friday that week, I was like, ata, like, I don't think you guys should do this against Rogers. I was like, he's going to know you're doing it. He's like, oh, we know that. He'll know we're doing it. And I'm like, well then you have no shot. And he was like, we have no shot whether we do it or not. We're just hoping that, that, that our guy will make a play on the ball or not. So I remember first quarter, third down in the red zone. It's like third and 12, I want to say like the 18 yard line, something like that. And I remember looking at staff and I was like, there's no way we zero here, right? Like, there's no way we're just gonna play cover off the field. He's like, we're gonna zero. And they zeroed. And he threw the ball. I believe it was to Slay and Darius Slay was in like Jordy's face mask, like perfect coverage. And Aaron put the ball literally like on Jordy's ear. And Jordy turned right at the last second touchdown. And we just looked at each other like I was like, hey man, good luck. Go score 35.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a real thing though. If you got a guy that can spin it, I mean, that is a great place to be. Now granted, not every strong arm can put the ball exactly where it needs to be, which is why the development of Josh Allen was so spectacular. And anybody that is a young quarterback who has a lot of athleticism and maybe a lot of potential talent, everybody points at Josh Allen and they go, hey, look at the development from year one to year two, year two to year three, year three to year four, year four to year five. He's only gotten better and better with his arms and his Mechanics and everything like that. Which leads us to Indianapolis Indiana. Ty has a question for you, Dan.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh yeah, Dan, it seems like the Colts have the only true quarterback competition going right now. I don't know if you've seen it, but we saw a pretty spectacular highlight of both quarterbacks earlier today. Foxy, if you want to show Dano.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Ty Schmidt]

So Dan, you know, you see that obviously you got both guys just ripping it out there, looking good. Okay, sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

It's one throw.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, I, I get it, it's one throw. But AR looks different. He looks like he's in very good shape from the pictures we've seen and obviously that. What do you think of this whole QB situation? Because it kind of seems like it was dimes and now it's kind of more of an open deal again.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah. For Anthony one stay healthy obviously, but to take the, take the easy things and make them easy things, I think that's really going to be the challenge for Anthony Richardson is when you know, Shane Psych and these, these play callers with all these young quarterbacks. One of the things that I learned so much from Gary Kubiak when it came to calling games and I think Shane Steichen calls a really good game is like there's times when I'm just calling this play for us to get five yards. And sometimes it's whether you're a great athlete, when you're seeing these clips running, sometimes it's trying to give an offensive line of break or I haven't gotten Michael Pittman Jr. The ball in five plays. I want to get him a touch or I just want to get to second and five because when I call this second and five play, I'm setting it up for another second down play call in a quarter from now. And so I think the more Anthony learns that and realizes that and makes the commitment to treat that four or five yard completion like the third and ten run or the, the fourth and goal run, like it's the most important thing you can do in that moment and to have that high level of focus, the high level of commitment to execution, that it's not just a completion, how you complete it, the timing of it, that you do it in the placement of the throw to maybe steal a yard or two is a big deal. And so, and this happens to a lot of young, ridiculously physically talented young quarterbacks is you think because you're so physically talented the next you can make it up the next player. Something like that. And the more discipline that you get, the better you become with that consistency and then those big plays happen. So I think if you're close, you obviously want Anthony be to the guy. But that's the big challenge for Anthony. Yes. Stay healthy, stay on the field. But, dude, you gotta make the layups all the time in that league.

[Pat McAfee]

That was fourth quarter right there. Drive at the end of the game. That's how it ended with him running. It was awesome to watch that. And as you watch these highlights, you can't help but get incredibly excited. I mean, he is. Has the potential to be a unicorn. Unicorn. He literally does. And you talk about taking, like, first down, second down, third down, check down, seriously, and everything like that. I think that's just learning to become, you know, a professional athlete that's on a little bit of a different playing field than you have been your entire life. Because he's always had the fixer you talked about, hey, his athleticism will make it up for the next play. It's like his arm, his athleticism. He's always been a fixer. Like, hey, if this one doesn't work out, who cares? I throw a pick, I'll be able to get back. I miss a throw, I'll be able to get it back. Now it's like, hopefully at this stage of his professional career, he knows, like, hey, everybody has that. That's on the field, you know, like, everybody has that. You have an advantage because you are more athletic than basically everybody on the field. You are. It is spectacular to watch. And also, everything you're doing off the field, everybody's watching as well. Because you're the quarterback of the team. You're the number four, the overall pick. You, whether you like it or not, are CEO of a locker room. That is what a quarterback is. We go as you go, brother. We operate how you operate. So everybody watching every. His every move. If he's able to dial in being a professional quarterback, which is focusing on every play off the field, leading and being a person, you know, you don't even have to talk. If he just wants to do as I do, as opposed to what I say, it's all good. It's like the chance is there. Carly has come out and said he's got enough time to save it. Chris Ballard said he's got enough time, more than enough time to still save it. It's like with everything that's gone on and how slow of a start it's been for his career as a whole, it's still all out there in front of him. Possible. And I go ahead.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I think this Too Pat. Like, there comes. And I remember Kyle Shanahan saying this, dude, as a quarterback, like, you have to fully understand top to bottom, like, when we give you the ball, everybody's job is in your hands. Everybody's. Everybody within the building's job is in your hands. And that's a big burden and that's a lot of pressure, but that's just the reality of that position. So, like, the more when. The more you can understand, like, dude, everyone's job is in you. Your decision. Decision making hands. You have this.

[Pat McAfee]

You.

[Dan Orlovsky]

You go to this reverence of, like, no, I can't be careless with that. I can't be reckless with it. Oh, this actually does matter. And there's a rally like, yo, Chris Ballard chose you. You know, like, he chose you. He. He chose shame for you. And you. They chose you. And so, like, you got to prove those guys right and do right by those guys, because their future and those roles in the NFL, very much so, is dependent on what you do every single play.

[Pat McAfee]

He's got backers, he's got supporters, obviously in the building and in a genre of fans here for the Indianapolis Colts. And I think we're all hoping for him to do great. I am. I know that.

[Shane Lechler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I am at the. The point of realization that, like, he could be so special and he could be so, so special. I can't just hold things against him. He's 20, what, 2 years old? Yeah. 23 years old or whatever it is. It's like, let's go, dude. You have the chance. And that team, they've invested on defensive side.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Got a great offensive line seemingly all the time. Got Jonathan Taylor, a lot of weapons. And it's like in Daniel Jones. The Colts weren't the only team that wanted to sign Daniel Jones. Yeah, there was other teams wanting to sign Daniel Jones. And is he going to have the Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield type situation where his first team for some reason doesn't work out, takes a. A little bit of a road and then finds a place and goes absolutely apeshit? He could. And he plays very similar to how Anthony Richardson plays. A lot of people wouldn't think that. Obviously, if you just look at Daniel Dimes and you say he's a Duke guy, he looks like he's a little bit of a nerdy guy. It's like he will run. That dude will run people over. He will stride out on people. I think Colts are in a good spot quarterback competition, though. I think you need to get those over with quick. I Think the team needs to know who the guy is personally, but they know a lot better than I do. And they've named the starting quarterback in years past and it hasn't worked out.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Now, on that note, real quick on Indy. Yeah, I'm sorry. I think they also give whoever they choose a month. I think they give the guy the month. And you either are getting it done and we're good, or if you're not getting it done, we're going to the next guy.

[Pat McAfee]

You're saying the least should be at least a few weeks. Shouldn't feel as if. Or the Yank should be at least a few, few weeks. We don't need to feel as if every single play we're looking over our shoulder who's next. I assume they'll handle it, right? Shane Steichen, Chris Ballard, a lot of respect for them. Good luck to them as they do it. And Deebot, you said the locker room knows. Yeah, I think that's evident. I would assume because the locker room can't pick and choose favorites. Okay. Just because of personal feelings. Because everybody's job to Dan Orlovsky's is reliant upon said person. There might be people pulling for somebody.

[Darius Butler]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, I hope. Hope you ball out. Like, there's been times where I've witnessed a competition happen at a position and there's one guy who's really good at special teams and there's one guy who's not. So I would like to go motivate the guy. Hey, need a big day out of you. Seven on seven. Need you to learn this. Okay. Well, I need you personally to do that. Like, that'll certainly happen. But it all plays out on the field and everybody kind of sees it. Yeah, everybody kind of sees it.

[Darius Butler]

On Dan mentioned it. When the quarterback has the ball in his hands, like, you have the team's fate in your hand and every. Everybody on that team, you want to win. You want to go to playoffs, regardless of what situation you're in, free agent, whatever, Every team wants to pluck from a winner. So you want to be in a good situation and you can't lie to the locker room. But moving on, I'm going over to the NFC side. We talked about the top of the afc, NFC side. I don't know why. I. I honestly don't. But for some reason, I'm really, really high on Dak Prescott and the Cowboys. I love the George picking the dish pick. I don't know why I'm never in on the Cowboys, but I like. I like shotty I think he'll surprise a lot.

[Pat McAfee]

We like Shotty too.

[Darius Butler]

As. As a head coach. There's always headlines, you know, dealing with Jerry Jones and organization with Michael Parson. They'll get that figured out. What's your expectations for the Cowboys?

[Pat McAfee]

Dak Prescott D connection's unstable.

[Darius Butler]

He's out on the co ch down.

[Pat McAfee]

Jerry Jones. I don't want to hear.

[Darius Butler]

I want to hear.

[Pat McAfee]

How about him just actually being like five year deal. I'm committing to somebody for five years. That's a long time, bro.

[Ian Rapoport]

Is there still cars on the road in this fort?

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of water.

[Ty Schmidt]

A lot of water under that bridge.

[Pat McAfee]

And that water under that bridge. Let's talk about it. Might have E. Coli in it. Yeah. And one of my guys, I pay five years gets in that water, gets sick. He's out of his ass and his mouth can't play. Two, three weeks now. I'm still paying the guy. Do you want to do that? I don't want to do that. Are you going to pay Micah? You ever pay a bunch of money to somebody and they suck? I have. I have. And the press conference. Jesus. That's how we're starting the season. I don't think we need to. A little bit of heat. He was. Somebody said something to him before he gets up on that press conference. He's like, I need to. They need to remember who's doing what around here. Yeah. It's Jerry's world, literally.

[Boston Connor]

And figures between him and Mike Brown. I don't know what they said at the owners only meeting, but there had to be someone in there getting them riled up. Like, hey, it's kind of weird. All. All these players seem to have a lot of power. You guys still. You guys own these teams or no. And then all of them left. Are people really saying this? Are you okay?

[Pat McAfee]

Fine. I own the Cowboys. The players don't own the Cowboys.

[Boston Connor]

That's not what they're saying, Jerry. Yeah, everyone's saying Jerry, Dak and Mike.

[Pat McAfee]

They're saying we're the NBA. Is that what.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, kind of.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll set that straight. Call Mike Brown.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey. We're done with him. Mike. Where the ending and be eight. That's seemingly. What. Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Shoot.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what happened. I mean, the first day of training camp, you think teams would be pumped like, football's back, our business is back. Everything's good. Instead it's about. Sick of these players. Aren't you all right?

[Darius Butler]

I love that Micah and Trevon just went out there and had their own Impromptu. Hey, we're available. What's up? Got any questions?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Go get a haircut.

[Pat McAfee]

What? Okay. Dan, will you answer about Dak? Will you answer about Dak?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, yeah, sorry, I got a haircut. What was the question? Debut, like you're just high on them and you're.

[Darius Butler]

Well, I am high on them. I do love, you know, the moves. I love what they did in the draft. But what's your overall expectation? I know we haven't seen Dak for a while with the, you know, with his injury becoming coming back. He is the highest paid quarterback in NFL for a reason. But what's your expectation for that team going forward this year?

[Dan Orlovsky]

I think, I think Dallas is a good football team. That is going to be a playoff contending football team. I, I agree. I think the offense would be a good offense. A bunch of high picks in their offensive line. I think Shoddy's going to be like sneaky good. I think Schottenheimer is going to be who Mike McCarthy kind of set out to be initially, which was, you know, once he took over the placeholding. You know, they want to be dominant running the football and a heavy play action team. I think we're going to be much. There will be much more of a reduced split offense, which is something we've talked about a little bit on the, on NFL Live is like how much the offensive football in the NFL has changed, cut, splits. And so I think that's going to help their offense. I think this is a top 10 offense in the NFL that will be very much so dependent upon is their defense. Okay, Is their defense. Top 15, top 16 in the NFL. But I think Dak plays well to your point. He's got to stay healthy. I don't think we're going to see Dak Prescott, which would, you know, four years ago when he had to throw for like 38 touchdowns for them to win some games. I think there'll be a little bit more balanced on offense, but more big play centric.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, well, we appreciate the hell out of you stopping by. Who's won the Super Bowl, Dan.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I thank God they're Philadelphia or Baltimore.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, pull on ticker. We appreciate you enjoy your summer Wednesday out there. Good, good. Shrubbery behind you. Is that the house? Are you somewhere else?

[Dan Orlovsky]

No, no, I'm going to walk in to get a haircut right now. I'm in the parking lot.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, where, where are you at? Sport clips or great clips like Kirk Cousins?

[Dan Orlovsky]

No, no, I'm at Westport. Cut and shave. I gotta get Cut up one of the best.

[Ian Rapoport]

Don't touch the beard, Dan. It looks too good.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't touch the beard. Do they use heated foam with the straight edge on that thing?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, but I don't shave. I. If I, I don't like shave, shave, I use an electric razor. But they, they do my neck.

[Darius Butler]

Put some beige.

[Pat McAfee]

You're telling me they don't. They don't straight. They don't. They don't do the.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Not for me. They do it for other humans.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe just let that thing continue to flow.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I don't cut this. I don't cut the top in the summer.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, it's kind of like long hair.

[Boston Connor]

Don't care, bruh.

[Pat McAfee]

Ragtop down. So this long hair can blow too. I see you up there in the jeep. All right, good luck. Enjoy your day. Congrats on another contract with espn. Yeah, congrats.

[Boston Connor]

Subtweets worked again.

[Pat McAfee]

Master businessman. All right, we appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. Danner loves. He does weapon, those X's. Oh, yeah, he really does.

[Boston Connor]

All the time.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, boys. What a. What an incredible week it has been. Hell yeah, it has been.

[Ian Rapoport]

It really is.

[Pat McAfee]

Now people are going to make fun of us for taking another couple days off here. And I want to let you know there's more to come. Yeah, you know, there's more.

[Ian Rapoport]

They're doing the same in summer.

[Pat McAfee]

Well. And we have logged a lot of. Because of the run that we've been on. There's a lot of days where like, hey, we got the 50 and 50 thing. If you guys would like to maybe have a three day, four day weekend. What, you want to take this off? This is happening this week for the first time, I think, in our career. I've gone, you know what, I will. There's a lot of me out here at Disney. Maybe we do slow down. Maybe we do slow down a little bit at Disney.

[Ian Rapoport]

They don't carry over either. If you don't. If you don't use them, you lose them.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's a year thing. Gone.

[Boston Connor]

Ridiculous.

[Pat McAfee]

Gone. It's not ridiculous.

[Boston Connor]

What happened to the carryover minutes?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I was say, as the person who negotiated the contract, I would like to say I'm appreciative of those off days. We very rarely have taken them, though. Like that has been. We kind of feel like we've been lucky to have this platform, this opportunity, and also we appreciate the people that follow along with us so much. And a lot of people send us messages about they spend their afternoon or maybe they're going through something Whether it's an injury or some sort of treatment. So I hate us missing days. Just know we got a lot logged in there you can go catch up on.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, true.

[Pat McAfee]

There's a lot of terrible show that you can go watch.

[Boston Connor]

Tons.

[Pat McAfee]

Because we did a lot of it. And we're gearing up for the biggest football season we've ever had. So can't wait. I'm very excited. Next Wednesday, we're in Pittsburgh. Next Thursday, we're in Canton, Ohio, at the Pro Football hall of Fame. Come see us. Come see us. We're going to be at both those things. I have no idea what setup's going to be like. I assume a training camp you're able to go. I was up there as a child. There's places for fans to sit and hang out. And they get a hug from Kevin Green.

[Ian Rapoport]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Where. What's the name of the city that training camp?

[Pat McAfee]

La Trobe.

[Darius Butler]

Okay, sure. Because I get a lot. I look, I do a little extra research. Now I'm pronouncing city's names, so are you sure?

[Pat McAfee]

So what I've been told is, you know, I've heard it pronounced this way my entire entire life. I've heard people say Lay Trobe. Okay. And I saw a couple people in the comments say it's La Trobe. And Nick Moraldo is certainly a Lay Trobe guy out there. I think everybody in the state calls it Latrobe. People from Latrobe, though, I believe, call it Lay Trobe. So maybe we should pay respect to the La Trobians old school, and call it Lay Trobe down there at the Trobe. Yeah, but you just skipped it there, Donner. Latrobe is what you would have to say there if you were really rolling there, Nick, you've never said it like that before until the last couple days. Once I started getting comments on how I said it. It seems like you are potentially trying to make me feel like an idiot. Or is this now Latrobe going forward in your eyes?

[J]

I think I'm gonna respect the good citizens of Latrobe. And I saw those same comments, so I said, okay, you know what? I will change the way I've said this way my entire life.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes. Yeah.

[J]

It's been Latrobe.

[Pat McAfee]

It's all I've ever heard. And.

[J]

And now all of a sudden, we're saying late robe.

[Pat McAfee]

So I've been up to Latrobe. I've been to training camp as a little boy. As a little boy, I was up to Lay Trobe.

[Boston Connor]

Sounds Canadian. Latrobe sounds American. Les Trobe sounds like it's right outside Calgary.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But it's not L, E, S, which would be like the French. Like les, not les tro. Yeah. It is L, A T, R, O, B, E, which I think in our language would be Latrobe. I think some idiots would say Latrobe, and then the people of La Trobe say, it's late robe. Anyways, we'll be there on Wednesday. Cannot wait to see the inserts and cannot wait to see the Latrobeans, brother. Yeah. Cannot wait to see. Hopefully. Come on, say hello.

[Ian Rapoport]

The only way to get the bottom of this is you got to go look up an Arnie Palmer and interview and see how he said it's. Since he is the, you know, greatest person to ever be from Latrobe from there.

[Pat McAfee]

Great drink, too. He had to make billions of dollars off of the license. His name for that. You think we're going to see a lot of those on your. On your chest there on Wednesday. Yeah.

[Ian Rapoport]

Italian yinzers.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Bring nose shirt.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I have that mug. I have that mug. It really makes me feel Good morning. While I'm drinking my nest morning, I.

[Ian Rapoport]

Was like, that's coming off my chest.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

On that note, not the first time you said that note. Geez Louise, it's all over your chest talks table. Great work. Thank you. Have a great weekend. Everybody in the back. Great work. Getting lazier as we get older. But football season's gonna be big. Boom. Football season is going to be close. Very big. August 30th, college game day. Texas, Ohio State. Lee Corso's last headgear pick. Cannot wait for that. Going to be an emotional start to the college football season, but also a massive start to the college football season. Obviously, the hall of Fame game on Thursday. We'll be there helping kick it all off then. Hall of Famers go in in the weekend. Great class. Great of hall of Famers. All the teams are a training camp. Yeah. Football's back. Here we go. And hey, why not over the next few days, make amends with some people. Yeah, yeah, go talk to some people. And maybe you haven't had a chance to chit chat about. Go learn about some people. Maybe show some people some love. Like I got to do. What an honor it was. And as a lot of you know, on February 26th of this year, we were down to combine on this particular program. We discussed a very viral Internet story about an Ole Miss college student. We weren't clear at that point where the story originated from it was all over the Internet, yet by the time we talked about it, the story was everywhere. I have since learned that the story was not true and that my show played around role in the anguish caused to a great family and especially to a young woman, Mary Kate Cornette I think you all know from tuning into this program that I never want to be a source of negativity or contribute to another human's suffering. And I can now happily share with you that I recently got to meet Mary Kate and her family and I got a chance to sincerely apologize to them and acknowledge that what I said about Mary Kate was based solely on what others were saying on the Internet or had been previously reported by others and that we had no personal knowledge about Mary Kate or her personal life as a girl. Dad I also was very thankful for the opportunity to let Mr. Cornett know that I was wildly regretful for the part that our show our program played in his daughter Mary Kate's Payne I know many of you are wondering why I or we haven't addressed this topic until now. It's a fair question, but as you might imagine there was a lot going on behind the scenes since since this all happened. The most important element on the timing is I personally a decision that I made wanted to talk to the family first before addressing it publicly and I can now say that I had the opportunity to meet them, chat with them and they're wonderful people and I'm very thankful that they gave me the opportunity to tell them how sorry I was that this all happened and that our program was a part of this. I deeply regret the pain that was caused caused. I hated watching what our show was a part of in our interviews and reading about it and my hope is that this can be something that we all learn from going forward. I know we certainly have. Our goal with this show is to make the world a happier place, a better place to celebrate life and sports and to unify folks. I and we don't always get it right but we'll never stop trying. Thank you to the Cornets for the time and the conversation. Now we will all try to get back to trying to make this world a little better place, a little happier place and we hope you have the greatest weekend of all time. Thank you to the Cornets for allowing me to introduce myself chit chat to you with you and also let you know that I am so sorry that we were a part of this portion in story in chapter of your family's life. On that note, greatest summer weekend of all Time is right around the corner. Have a great good one. Don't be scared to go shake some hands, meet some people you might disagree with and understand that we all get to live this life just one time. We have no idea what's happening tomorrow. So let's enjoy it all. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Give me espn. Fantasy football is more than just a game. It's thousands of stories in the making. Like that one league that has missed a draft since the 20th century. Or the one that decides their draft order by competing in a legit athletic combine. Or the league where if you come in last, you have to sit in a closet and assemble a 300 piece puzzle in the dark. Yeah, that stuff really actually happened. The football may be fantasy, but the stories are 100% real. So download the ESPN fantasy app, sign up and start your story. Today. Insights with IBM WatsonX. Good. Liberty. Our WNBA champion. We can't get enough of the WNBA. A fresh draft class has arrived.

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