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PMS 2.0 1389 - Country Music Superstar Riley Green LIVE in the ThunderDome, Pete Thamel, Chiefs Owner Clark Hunt, & AJ Hawk
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Pat McAfee
Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode. The Thunderdome on this feel good. Friday, August 15, 2025 this program begins right now. Football is amazing. There's games tonight, obviously throughout the entire weekend. We'll be chit chatting about the preseason games and what we should expect. Adam Schefter will join us later in the hour. We can't wait to catch up with him and break it all down. The talks tables here at Boston Kona and at Ty Schmidt. 1/2 of the hammer done Cowboys AP Tone is here and also Clark Hunt will be joining us in the next hour. The owner next hour, the owner of the Kansas City Chiefs currently. And they have the Kingdom documentary series that's running on espn. And I will tell you what. Lamar Hunt, okay, Clark Hunt's father, this dude was a bad motherfucker. This guy was brilliant. This guy basically laid down the groundwork for what we know of football. And they're telling that story all the way to passing over, I assume, to Clark becoming the ownership, to them being a storied franchise that I don't think any of us knew started in the AFL in Dallas, and then they moved to Kansas City because of, you know, a little, little bit of contract stuff with the NFL. And this, this, this Hunt family has done a lot for football. And I think that's what the Kingdom is kind of showcasing while also putting a spotlight on the current dynasty that's being built with goats at every single position. It's a home run, I think, from what we saw last night. We'll talk to Clark Hunt in the second hour. Can't wait to catch up with him. But ladies and gentlemen, it is our honor on this feel Good Friday. I think we, we don't say that lightly.
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Ty Schmidt
No, no, no, not at all.
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Connor Stallion
At all.
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Pat McAfee
You know, people come in here whenever they're. They try to fit into their schedule when they're traveling through Indianapolis. Right. A lot of people come and go through Indianapolis. Not everybody that comes through the Thunderdome ends up on the show. You know, some people show up at a time where they were not filming or they're like, let's just keep it moving or whatever. Then there's some people that, like, try to go out of their way to join us, especially if we put the request in, which we certainly do. We got a chance to catch up with country music superstar country music superstud. Yeah. Riley Green this morning, and we hung out with him for about an hour before this conversation. There's a real deal.
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Connor Stallion
Yes, he is the man.
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Pat McAfee
Former quarterback At Jacksonville State. And he walked right into the locker room, it felt like. And in his own country ass way, fit in beautifully. It was a beautiful conversation. No better way to start off. Start off this feel good Friday. Your accent, your mustache, your look, your vibe. I think everything about it. When you walk in, we think that's country guy. Yeah, you are. And also incredibly jocked up. Yeah. Country music seemingly going to be the end game, even though obviously you're a great football player, great athlete. Yeah.
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Riley Green
There's no going back to that. I'm 36.
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Pat McAfee
It's.
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Riley Green
36 I'm beat up from.
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Pat McAfee
No, he's not. He's 27. Yeah, sorry about that. What you say? He was commenting about a Louisville quarterback that got drafted in New Orleans Saints who's a little bit older.
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Riley Green
I was number 36.
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Pat McAfee
You were number 36. No, no. But football was your thing, though, right? Athletics was it. And then when you stopped that, that's when you get into music or was music.
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Riley Green
I would never say that I was really musically talented. Like, I never thought there was nothing about me as a kid. We're like, yep, he's going to. You know, I just. I liked it. My granddaddy Buford loved country music. And he had a C. Buford.
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Connor Stallion
It's a great shout out. Granddaddy. Buford.
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Pat McAfee
Granddaddy, too. Just the whole. Everything you did there, just.
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Riley Green
And he had like a. He had a little epiphone guitar. So when I go to his house, we'd sit around and try to play it. So that was how I got into, like, liking country music and playing guitar. But I played football, baseball, basketball, all the way through school. Played a little football in college. And I think I started playing in bars because girls liked it. Thought it was cool. I thought guitar was cool. So I'd played cover shows for probably five or six years. And then I just got tired of playing the same songs over and over again. So I started writing songs. Somebody's like, man, I like this one song you wrote. Go record it. So I went to some guy like Bob's Garage, spent like a couple hundred bucks recording a song I played on everything. Had no producer, no manager, nothing like that. And it. A couple of songs, really. To Georgia, Time Bear, Me and Dixie, a couple songs.
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Pat McAfee
Did really well. Yeah. That was from that.
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Riley Green
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
That moment there.
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Riley Green
Yeah. And started. I remember I was playing a local Mexican restaurant called Loco Mex. Played it every Friday for, like, five years.
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Pat McAfee
Such great margaritas.
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Pete Thamel
Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
I saw the tacos, chips and salsa.
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Pat McAfee
Bottomless burritos. The size of your head.
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Connor Stallion
Yeah, the guac.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. Let's not talk about the guac. Yeah, we've been there. Local met.
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Riley Green
Yeah, there's only one and should be two. I was still doing construction work at the time, so I was framing houses during the week. I actually post football. This is. Yeah, this is 25 years old. Probably 20, 14, 15, something like that. And a guy called me from Birmingham. There's a venue called Iron city that held 1300 people. And I remember going and watching Chris Stapleton play there, and it was, like, empty. This is before he really blew. And I was like, man, there's no way nobody will be there. It'll be empty. And he said, man, I keep hearing your name. Come down here and play it. And 1300 people showed up. I had no clue anybody knew who I was. In Birmingham is an hour from where I grew up. And so I was like, oh, well, there's something going on here. And I didn't realize, like, I was getting paid for streams. I had money in an account on TuneCore I didn't even know about.
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Ty Schmidt
You know, Forgot the password for sure.
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Riley Green
Yeah. And I had a buddy that worked with Sam Hunt call me and. Cause he knew I did music. And he said, man, we gotta offer to go open for Travis Trip. We can't do it. I'm gonna put your name in the hat. I was like, oh, that'd be great. And then he called me back, said, man, you don't have enough followers on Facebook. And I was like, I don't even really have Facebook. What does that got to do with anything? You know? So then I realized social media was a big part of it and all that. So I got all that stuff.
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Pat McAfee
You love that, I think, just from talking to you for, like, the last hour. Yeah, it's great.
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Ty Schmidt
And it's a big social media.
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Riley Green
I actually need to check my tick book right now. Where's my phone at?
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Pat McAfee
Exactly.
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Riley Green
Actually, I was very accidental in my success to sell that. It was just. I enjoyed playing. I thought it was cool. I liked playing of music, and labels started to come to shows, and I signed a record deal in 2018.
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Pat McAfee
What's your congratulations on all of it, by the way?
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Riley Green
That's really what I was wanting to get at all that. Just a simple congratulations.
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Connor Stallion
Congratulations.
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Pat McAfee
This guy's working construction. This guy was working construction.
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Connor Stallion
Roofing.
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Pat McAfee
Plenty. You know.
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Connor Stallion
I'll start with Granddaddy Buford.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, Granddaddy Buford did love a little music. I think that is when it started there. Your songwriting Process. How do you go about doing it? I know there's plenty of different ways. I've gotten a chance now to learn about a lot of the music world, country music, mostly because of the tie with college game day. So I think college game day and college football very synonymous with country music. Like, I think all of it kind of all comes together every single weekend, at least in a big celebration. Other than the tailgates, everything, like, it is kind of all one world, but also it feels like all you country musicians, like sports, feels like you're all big ball fans because you grew up in the south, and that's kind of what you did. Yeah, but, like, learning about your guys and the way you go about operating is a very cool thing. I'm gonna let you know that.
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Riley Green
Well, I think tradition is what I think about when I think college football. You know, what I loved about. And I'm from Alabama, we don't have pro teams. We were all Alabama or Auburn. And, you know, when I hear Alabama, I think about Paul Bear Bryant. You know, like, the tradition of certain things in Auburn was. I remember when I started, like, in Auburn, it was a toss up for me. My family's Alabama fans. It was Freddy Kitchens was at Alabama, and I remember they put him in the game. He was a backup, and they had one Hail Mary pass to try to win the game. And whoever the starter was, they took out. And they put Freddie Kitchens in because he could throw it further. And I thought, that's who I want to be. I want to be the guy that can throw it further. And Auburn had Damien Craig, and I thought he was the coolest guy ever. So I ended up being an Auburn fan. But country music, to me was tradition, you know, like, there's something in there, that storytelling that doesn't get lost. No matter how much the music genre changes, with getting a little poppy or trap beats or whatever you want to call it, I just like the storytelling of country music. You know, there's some trap beats. There's a couple trap and some. Some people love that, you know?
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I like to get.
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Riley Green
Hey, I like to get in my car and get trappy every once in a while.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, I can see that. Yeah, I can see that with you. Yeah, yeah. Go bobbing on the steering wheel, you know, doing it all.
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Riley Green
Rapping forte. I know what you're talking about.
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Pat McAfee
Been there. Yeah. Actually, I got this boar one time, and then immediately afterwards, I was like, kill that boar. Want some more bon on bone. Yeah. I understand that you are a rapper. That is kind of do that all the time.
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Riley Green
Yeah, that's good.
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Pat McAfee
Do you want me to. Hey, listen, I. I'm all day. I'm all.
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Riley Green
Trust me, I can see it.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, you've heard it.
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Riley Green
I think I had a triple espresso, but it wasn't enough.
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Pat McAfee
No, they were going to compete. There's enough. Somebody get this charity.
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Riley Green
You don't need it.
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Pat McAfee
There's another altitude. Well, I'll get tired. The legs will get tired. I'm not as good a shape. You. I will sit down. But your songwriting process, you talk about the storytelling. Where do you find inspir. What do you go do, do you go disappear? Because I know there's like some people that like go deep into like I think like woods or farms or things like that. Like have cabins and like take a couple of the boys out there, have like a weekend. Some people, I think we saw Bieber go to like Europe. Yeah. But obviously vastly different Taylor Swift style music. Taylor Swift, yeah.
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Riley Green
But the disconnect is.
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Pat McAfee
Is what that is.
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Riley Green
I feel like it's probably the same for everybody. I. I don't know that I've written a song the same way twice. I do know that I get a lot of inspiration from Jacksonville, where I. Where I'm from in Alabama. You know, I obviously spend a lot of time in Nashville, but I don't have a lot. There's not a lot there that inspires me. I don't really have a lot in common with the big city. My whole family still lives in Jacksonville in my hometown. There's a store called Green Store right down the road from my farm. And my granddaddies both used to go in the morning at 5:30 and play dominoes with the old men. I would get up, I hated getting up in the morning, but I'd go over there and sit with them for work. And I got a lot of titles from just what old guys say sitting around, you know, I mean it's.
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Pat McAfee
They do say you smell like an 80 year old man too, don't they? And that kind of the.
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Riley Green
When you said it like that, it sounds off. I looked at it like I smell like your grandpa. Like that's a comforting scent, like safe.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. If you smell like an 80 year.
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Riley Green
Old, that doesn't sound good.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's Pittsburgh delivery verse like, you know, Alabama delivery there. I was saying it was a compliment. Granddaddy Buford smelled like this. That is what I'm saying.
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Riley Green
Yeah. I wrote a song about my granddaddy London. It's called Hell Of a way to go. And I remember sitting out at the store in the morning. I was still doing construction work, and I was playing on the weekends, you know, and old guys are sitting out there and they're like, hey, man, I need to get on the bus and ride with you one weekend. You know, like, there's a lot of girls out there at the show and stuff like that, you know, have a good time. I said, well, yeah, it's pretty fun. I said, but I don't. You might have a heart attack out there. You can't go with me, old man. And you know how you are with old guys. You always give them a hard time. We're back and forth, you know. And he said, man, that'd be a hell of a way to go. And I thought, there's something there. And I didn't write that song till six years later. But there's something in that, you know, just those old sayings and the mindset of those. That generation, I find a lot of inspiration in.
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Pat McAfee
And I think that's why people love you, brother. That's a generation that is obviously revered and throwback in this modern time is obviously appreciated. Go ahead, con man.
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Connor Stallion
Yeah. So when it does come to making your music and you've been with Your label since 2018, you said, does it hard? Is it hard? Rather, if you fall into, like, a lane, like, do you feel like you have to make a certain style of music for your fans? Is there part of you that wants to make different music, but you feel like you can't because you might lose the fan base you built with the songs that you've already had? Like, what is that kind of thought when it comes to actually making and writing the music?
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Riley Green
That's a really good question. I feel like I'm probably the opposite of a lot of folks, because when I signed a record deal, I'd already had some success and I had a brand, so to speak. I mean, I was the all shucks guy from Alabama. I'm glad to be here. I ain't never been nowhere kind of guy.
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Connor Stallion
Yeah, sure.
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Riley Green
Anyway, it was true. I didn't have to fake it. But I feel like what people liked about my music early on, before it was ever pushed, before it was on the radio or anything like that, it was something that was really simple. I think how I say things is very simply. I don't overthink lines, and I don't complicate it and get songwritery and dance around, try to get cute. I just kind of tell a story. The Way that, you know, I think I could tell it. And I always thought there's so many people that were better singers than me, better performers, that I'm the only person that could tell a story from my eyes. So I thought that was the only thing I had to set me apart. And I remember playing cover shows and, you know, I went to Tootsies and.
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Pat McAfee
Played open mic in Nashville, not Tootsies in South Florida.
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Riley Green
Yeah, there was 30 people in line to play after me that were all better than me. And I thought, okay, well, I've got to figure something out, you know, and maybe because I'm not all that musically talented, I kind of stay in my lane. But I also think if I did stray too far from what got me here, I'd lose some fans. I would alienate the fans I already got. So what I do is, in small ways, try to push the envelope. I've got a song called Worst Way that was a really big hit for me, that came out on my last album. And it's a very, like, forward love song. And I don't write a lot of love songs, but I wrote it by myself. And I just remember sitting there thinking, I was like, man, I need to write something that's a little more for the girls. I write a lot of songs that have a lot of anthemic type themes about home and values and stuff, and that one worked. So I still wrote it. It was still me, but in a small way, it was a little bit of me branching out. I think Small Steps is how to.
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Pat McAfee
Do the photo of you that we have on this graphic. Yeah. I think you should write a song for the women maybe every once in a while.
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Connor Stallion
Just a heat, man.
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Pat McAfee
And what you can't see in that photo because pictures don't put it into proportion.
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Riley Green
See how good my legs look?
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Pat McAfee
Exactly.
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Riley Green
That's not what he's going to say.
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Pat McAfee
You're in a big thigh Thunderdome right now. But just so we have that all clear.
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Riley Green
No, I appreciate you cutting that off.
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Pat McAfee
What?
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Riley Green
Sometimes they don't try to make you look good.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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Riley Green
So amazing what AI will do.
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Pat McAfee
Hey. No, it's not AI. This is you, brother. And that's not working there. When did you decide I'm gonna be the most jacked guy?
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Riley Green
When did you get me to sign it?
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Pat McAfee
We stole that from you. Yeah, yeah. And we'll say it's real, though, for sure.
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Riley Green
I'm like you. You know, when you played ball as long as you did, you. You enjoy working out to a certain extent. You like being in shape. Then you start to get a little older and you think, okay, well, now I need to. You know, being on the road, I remember when I first got on a tour bus. I was still kind of broke, and we would go on tour, and I was out with Brad Paisley and he had great catering. I felt like I need to eat everything I can, every meal, because who knows? Yeah, this may end. And then you get on the bus after a show at 11 o' clock and there's three pizzas stacked up or a pile of chick fil a nuggets is high, you know, so. And then, you know, you're drinking out on the road and all that. So I started realizing, okay, I gotta take care of myself a little bit. So I've always worked out for that purpose. But, you know, also, I just feel like there's a lane in country music that ties really well with, like, you're talking about with college sports, certainly. That's a great fit with the demographic of country music. So is hunting. I've always loved hunting. I grew up hunting. And then, you know, I realized that I got a lot of fans from that. You know, I'd be out at the bar and some girl would come up and go, hey, you're the guy that sings that song. And her boyfriend would go, I saw you on realtree road trips or hosted a hunting show. So I started thinking, man, I got moody.
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Pat McAfee
I should have done more research. I did not know you hosted hunting show shows that I should have led with that. I should.
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Riley Green
I don't mind telling you. I'm Riley, by the way. I don't mind. So good to meet you. No, man, there's a. Jeez. Yeah, I'm like an onion. We're peeling back layers here. I got a. Where's my sheet? On Pat. I. Look, I got some questions for him too.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, really?
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Connor Stallion
Interesting.
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Pat McAfee
That was unbelievable. Sorry.
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Riley Green
But no, I realized that hunting was something that could help my music career. And so I started being motivated to go hunt for a different reason than just, I enjoy doing it. And working out for me was kind of like that. You know, there's a lot of opportunities, obviously, there's a lot of fitness influencers and stuff out there. I'm not trying to do that. But there is a world where being in good shape can help my music career. So I got motivated to try to work out. And we take a really nice trailer on the road. It's got a gym in it.
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Pat McAfee
You know, it feels like nowadays with modern technology, you can do that. There's Been multiple guys that have come through. Obviously Jelly roll has lost like 200 something pounds.
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Tony Meola
Zack Brown, we talked to him about.
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Riley Green
He has gotten in great shape.
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Pat McAfee
I think Kenny is like a three trailer operation where he's got cold tub, hot tub and a gym. Oh.
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Connor Stallion
Popping up in rows, brother.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
What'd you say to me when he.
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Pat McAfee
When he with his bat cape completely out there, when he rose from the ground to go fight somebody in the crowd? Yep. That was the moment where I was like, hey, Tim McGraw is not around.
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Connor Stallion
He's about it.
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Pat McAfee
He is in that gym and he'll be in your ass if you got a problem with it.
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Tony Meola
Marker's in.
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Pat McAfee
Good. I kind of like that, you know?
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Riley Green
Yeah, I think, I think he's one of those guys too, that that like gets after working out like I work out, but you get after. But I don't know like that.
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Connor Stallion
I'm not like just drinking, screaming in his gym.
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Pat McAfee
He just told me he's doing triceps and biceps blowout till max exertion every night before bed.
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Connor Stallion
Okay, well.
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Pat McAfee
So, yeah, I don't know if everybody's getting after. He says I don't get after like those guys. He does. Just want to let you know that you're a dog dude. Yeah, you need to be incredible once. I mean, obviously I know the name and coach Rod, who we will certainly get into talking about now back at West Virginia, was coach at Jacksonville State, where you are an alum. You did not play for him, but obviously he was living in your hometown and loved it down there. In this entire thing, he was introduced. He was talking about you for a while or whatever. And I started seeing clips of you showing up and I'm like, what the hell?
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Connor Stallion
Who the fuck.
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Pat McAfee
What is that thing? What is that? He's incredibly jocked out there. I think it's a good angle, brother. And obviously if you can look like that, you. You probably should try to, you know, that's kind of God. God blessed you there. And he's also 6 5, which you can't see. That doesn't hurt with his cowboy boots on, you know, I don't know. Six three, six three and a half, six four.
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Riley Green
What are probably so. Yeah, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And then cowboy boots. 65, just. We were sitting down next to each other. I didn't even. And then he stood up and I'm like, jesus, you're a basketball drink of water.
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Connor Stallion
Still can't dunk.
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Pat McAfee
You're dog.
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Riley Green
It's a fun show.
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Tony Meola
Thank you.
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Riley Green
Just brag on me while I'm here waiting on the other part.
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Pat McAfee
Never.
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Riley Green
Well, nice, man.
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Pat McAfee
I mean, again, we'll try to do a giveaway. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
There we go.
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Pat McAfee
And if you embarrass yourself doing that, there will be.
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Ty Schmidt
Yes.
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Pat McAfee
Okay.
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Ty Schmidt
Couple mortars.
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Pat McAfee
Ty has a question for you.
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Ty Schmidt
So kind of going off what Connor said in terms, like, do you like, where the industry has kind of gone in the last couple years, like you said, you know, a little bit more poppy, maybe. And we see all these people crossing over from different genres. And how difficult is it to kind of maintain, like, the artistic credibility that you want to have when you also know, like, well, if I did this, though, and I don't want to say sold out, but you know what I'm saying? Like, dude, go in that lane a little bit more. Like, I could have several massive radio hits.
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Riley Green
It's. I was so fortunate that I had a pretty decent following before I came to town. If I hadn't, if I'd have went to Nashville when I was in my early 20s, I probably would have made a lot of bad decisions. Because it is tough when you're in that town to have blinders on and not look at what everybody else is doing, especially when they're being successful and you're not, you know, And I saw it a lot when the pop country thing really started off, and it was, you know, Hunt and FGL and I had the FGL records, you know, those first records, it was. I'd never heard that kind of thing before, but then you saw a lot of that stuff coming out, and everybody kind of had that same pop country thing, and they call it bro country, I guess. But it's because people go up there and you got an artist that's talented or whatever, and he doesn't have success and he's going, oh, well, I gotta write with these guys that are writing with so and so. Well, then you have the same three people coming up with all the songs for every artist in town, and they all start to sound the same. I was really fortunate. I wrote all my songs by myself early on. So I, you know, I at least had something that was kind of unique in my sound. And then, you know, I got to town and started having a little success and I realized, I think the best thing you can be right now is different. And. And yeah, there's a lot of crossovers, a lot of pop stuff coming in the country, but it's really just making the country music genre bigger, which I have seen. We went to Australia and had three sold out shows down There we did the. Me and Morgan did the show in London at Hyde park last year. It was the biggest country show they ever had. We're going back to the uk. All our shows over there sold out within, like, hours, like, so. It's getting huge everywhere. I think it has a lot to do with Yellowstone and those shows and popularity.
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Pat McAfee
Well, he became a cowboy because of that.
- [19:51]
Riley Green
Western lifestyles made it pop popular everywhere. But I think that it also leaves room for things that are different than that to kind of stand out. Zach Topp's a good example. I love that you can have a guy come on the radio and you hear a song go. That's a tough thing to get, where you know who it is from the first note. You know, there's so many guys that struggle with having hits, and you go, oh, I know that song. But who sings it? Could be one of five people, you know? So for me, it doesn't really affect me all that much as long as I keep going back to that place in Alabama, that small town, in getting my inspiration from there and not just trying to come up with songs, you know, off of ideas that I see on the computer.
- [20:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but it's. There's a chance that a banger comes. You never know.
- [20:36]
Ty Schmidt
It's a good starting point.
- [20:38]
Pat McAfee
You talk about people becoming cowboys because of Kevin Costner out there in Montana. He was actually one of them. Got Covid, went into a cave for, you know, the proportion, the proper amount of time. Yep. It was the exact seven to 10 days. Seventeen days, I think, is what we learned. He was. We all know that that is 100% the way it was supposed to be. The whole world.
- [20:59]
Connor Stallion
And it worked.
- [20:59]
Pat McAfee
And he wasn't allowed to see his family or anybody. He was locked in a. In a cave, literally in his house. And he watched that show the entire time. And he gambled. He basically went through, like, sports books and learned about all the bets and history and stats and everything. So we started a new gambling podcast. Podcast called Hammer Done. You missed it. Hammer Don. Got it. Okay.
- [21:20]
Connor Stallion
No, he didn't.
- [21:21]
Ty Schmidt
No, he didn't.
- [21:21]
Pat McAfee
Watch his mouth.
- [21:24]
Riley Green
What are y' all saying?
- [21:25]
Pat McAfee
Hammer Don?
- [21:28]
Tony Meola
It's down.
- [21:29]
Pat McAfee
Down when you're on it.
- [21:30]
Riley Green
Oh, don't do it with an accent. What kind of accent is that?
- [21:32]
Tony Meola
Pittsburgh.
- [21:32]
Riley Green
D. Okay.
- [21:33]
Pat McAfee
D. Nailed it. Okay.
- [21:35]
Connor Stallion
Pretty good.
- [21:35]
Pat McAfee
Maybe you should launch that artist, the Pittsburgh Artist, and that's where you have, like, a two Garth Books thing. Then he could do the. With the Pittsburgh accent.
- [21:46]
Connor Stallion
Yeah.
- [21:46]
Pat McAfee
But nonetheless, he became a cowboy and a gambling show. Host because of COVID Nobody talks about that.
- [21:52]
Connor Stallion
No.
- [21:52]
Pat McAfee
He went from being a Pittsburgh guy.
- [21:54]
Tony Meola
Culture's the best.
- [21:54]
Pat McAfee
To an actual cowboy. It's amazing. Thank you. It is. Thank you.
- [21:59]
Tony Meola
I needed that.
- [21:59]
Pat McAfee
But you.
- [22:00]
Tony Meola
You talked about signing with a label in 2018. That's, you know, that's huge for the career. But did you feel like you really made it when you got a bar in Nashville? Like, after playing in Nashville, like, having a bar in Nashville, I feel like that's when you finally made it as a country.
- [22:13]
Riley Green
I don't even know that I was there yet when that happened, but, I mean, what's so cool about it is it's not on Broadway. It's not over there with all the other artists on bars. And it was full circle for me because Losers and Winners is where I spent all my time. And everybody I met in town, every artist, every songwriter was in that building. I don't know a lot of artists that go to Broadway, that go downtown. I mean, it's kind of a mayhem down there. So touristy. So it was cool that it was in a local hangout like that. And there was Whiskey Jam, used to be in the same building where the Duck Blind is now. So I've got a bar where guys come in there and get their start kind of the same way I did. It's really cool to go in there and. And I can't get thrown out of that bar in town that they cannot throw me out of.
- [22:53]
Pat McAfee
It feels like that place is a bar that you want to go to. Just as somebody that's been there a few times. The ice cream, first of all, fantastic. Nobody's going to talk about it. Yeah.
- [23:02]
Riley Green
I've got to say this. I was with my partner that owns.
- [23:05]
Pat McAfee
A bar, and Steve, dog legend, he.
- [23:07]
Riley Green
Told me he wanted to put an ice cream bar in there. And I'm like, yeah, that's cool. You know, like, nobody's going to eat ice cream at the bar, you know? And then I don't know where we were, but you and Ern FaceTimed, and that's all they talked about. They were like, is this ice cream, man?
- [23:23]
Pat McAfee
Whatever. And then I was like, y' all.
- [23:25]
Riley Green
Had some ice cream today? She said, no, no, we had ice cream today while we were at the bar. We left, came back up to the bar just to get some more ice cream. And I was like, okay. This whole time I've been wondering, who is going to get ice cream? And I was like, that's okay.
- [23:40]
Pat McAfee
No, it is a great.
- [23:41]
Riley Green
Everybody likes it. Honestly, I've heard that everybody likes it.
- [23:43]
Pat McAfee
It is a nice little pick me up because you think to yourself, holy shit, is cookies and cream ice cream here. Yeah, I will, I'll take some of that. But that is cool to have because I think getting that, that bar, I think there is a lot of conversation about who's allowed to get a bar, who's not allowed to get a bar. A lot of respect for you amongst your peers. I think that has to be a pretty sweet.
- [24:01]
Riley Green
Yeah, man, it's a cool. It's a very validating thing. And there's been a lot of that stuff in my career. You know, playing country music is a grind like anything else. I had a lot of guys that played, played professional baseball about the same time I kind of had my career take off. And I remember having conversations with them and kind of seeing the similarities because there is such a battle to stay relevant. You know, if you're 28 years old in major league baseball and there's a guy that's coming out of school and he's 22 and he's good as you, you know, it's kind of it for you, you know, and there's so much now with Tik Tok and all these ways that these guys, I mean, overnight, these guys can kind of have somewhat of a career. So knowing that, I think the thing that keeps you motivated even when things can get a little monotonous, because I tell people all the time we play the same songs every night, you know, and 120 plus shows a year is when you have those moments where you're like, okay, something's working, people are buying in, whether it's a bar getting to play Red Rocks or you know, having a tour, sell out or whatever it is, awards. It's just those things keep you, keep you going, you know, and it's like having success in a ball club, you.
- [25:03]
Pat McAfee
Know, I think it's an impossible thing to do, that music world.
- [25:07]
Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah.
- [25:08]
Pat McAfee
Especially after hanging out down there a little bit. So many people.
- [25:11]
Riley Green
Well, so many talent, but I mean, so many.
- [25:13]
Pat McAfee
Everybody. So many, so many people.
- [25:15]
Riley Green
There's a lot of great, great athletes too though, you know, no shortage of great ball players. What, what I figured out from my little stand of play. And, and you remember Kevin Green?
- [25:24]
Pat McAfee
Oh, oh, kg, come on. Rest in peace, brother.
- [25:26]
Connor Stallion
Saw his boss from the hall of.
- [25:28]
Riley Green
Fame, Oxford, Alabama, right down the road from me. And he came and spoke to us a couple of times and, and he said something that was interesting. He was talking about ballplayers being in the NFL. And he said the difference in a great player is from the neck up. And I, you know, when you're, when you're playing, you hear stuff like that from somebody and you go, eh. When it comes to Kevin Crane is a little different. But there's a lot of that in the music industry. You can kind of be as successful as you want to. Yeah, you gotta have some breaks, you gotta have a little bit of talent. You gotta get with the right people, surround yourself with a good team. But like with me, when, when I'm not on the road, I feel like I need to be right, you know, and if I'm not writing, I feel like I need to be in the gym or if I'm not in the gym and it's hunting season, I need to be in the woods somewhere because that stuff is working for me. It's all helps.
- [26:10]
Pat McAfee
That's football for sure. Don't you think? Yeah, I think that is all like, for me, I think football has helped me immensely in this world. It's like not only like work ethic and when you're tired, you still got to do stuff. And working as a team, having other people do stuff and kind of relying on. I mean, like, I think sports are the greatest thing of all. I think everybody should play.
- [26:28]
Riley Green
There's an, there's an accountability that I didn't have 18 years old when I got out of high school. Everybody's making you go to class, they're making you this. And then when I got to college and you know, they kind of say, be here at this time. And if you're not, we're not going to wait on you, you know, And I mean, I wasn't good enough. They were going to stop practice for me. So I learned a lot from my little stint playing ball. But it. I have to assume that that's rolled over into my music career because I've. I'm motivated to. To have the biggest career I can for the fact that I know I've got an opportunity.
- [26:59]
Pat McAfee
You know, football, I think we're all still amaz. You should write a song about football back in the day.
- [27:17]
Connor Stallion
That'd be sweet.
- [27:18]
Pat McAfee
I might. We might have had one right there for you. We might. We might have literally just, oh, football, we play way. But it's not. You don't just talk, Riley. You're a singer. Good.
- [27:29]
Riley Green
We play way back in the day.
- [27:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And then I'll jump in.
- [27:34]
Riley Green
Okay.
- [27:35]
Pat McAfee
Oh, you're so jacked. I think we're all still amazed.
- [27:41]
Riley Green
I wish I had a Dr. Pepper.
- [27:45]
Pat McAfee
Don't we all? Don't we all? Riley, before we let you get out of here, and thank you for hanging out with us. You were very cool. You are good vibes.
- [27:54]
Connor Stallion
Great time.
- [27:55]
Pat McAfee
You are very good vibes. Your team too. Good people.
- [27:57]
Riley Green
Thanks for letting us make this work.
- [27:59]
Pat McAfee
When we were here.
- [27:59]
Riley Green
You know, this is nice.
- [28:00]
Pat McAfee
He's playing the live golf tournament kickoff celebration festival at 5 o' clock at the club at Chatham Hills here in Carmel, Indiana. I do believe you also have an album coming out August 29th, a deluxe album, which I think we will certainly be jamming in here. Absolutely jamming.
- [28:19]
Riley Green
Going to send y' all some. This little sneak preview about.
- [28:23]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Look at us. I might be able to make some.
- [28:27]
Ty Schmidt
Make some adjustments.
- [28:29]
Connor Stallion
Good idea.
- [28:30]
Riley Green
I'm not going to send y'.
- [28:31]
Pat McAfee
All. No, no, no, no, please. I won't. I promise. I promise. Okay.
- [28:33]
Riley Green
That's the last thing I want is a parody, though.
- [28:36]
Pat McAfee
No parody.
- [28:39]
Riley Green
Serious, like really heartfelt song.
- [28:40]
Pat McAfee
No, no, no, no. I promise we will not touch your art, but we would be honored to hear it for sure. And thanks for hanging out. Thanks for being cool. Thanks for representing football, by the way. Yeah. And would you like to do a little bit of something and maybe have a giveaway here on your way out? Let's do it.
- [28:54]
Riley Green
Let's give it away.
- [28:55]
Pat McAfee
Okay. What do you want to do? Oh, there's a Give it away, give it away, give it away. Maybe add that tonight. Maybe do that. Do you want to. You want to throw a football? You think you still got it? Balls are flat, so it might be a little bit different. You want that? Good. Didn't they.
- [29:07]
Riley Green
Didn't that work?
- [29:08]
Pat McAfee
Well, wow. Yeah.
- [29:09]
Connor Stallion
Let's not get into this because we can go into the science of it and we don't have to forget about it. Exactly. There you go.
- [29:16]
Pat McAfee
Nailed it.
- [29:16]
Ty Schmidt
New York.
- [29:17]
Pat McAfee
But okay. So do you want to hit one of those three holes?
- [29:24]
Connor Stallion
Jeez, your legs are tiny. Holy.
- [29:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but he can move. He said he can move.
- [29:29]
Connor Stallion
Okay.
- [29:29]
Pat McAfee
They said they're pogo sticks, but he said I used to be able to move those things.
- [29:32]
Connor Stallion
I didn't realize. They didn't realize they were so small. You were right.
- [29:38]
Riley Green
Bad boys is hard.
- [29:39]
Pat McAfee
That's not what we're talking about. Okay. Okay. You're incredibly jacked. I don't know how easy it is going to be to throw a football or anything like that. As we start lifting, Connor can attest to this office. Of course, as we get after it, it's hard to do, you know, okay, so we'll give. We'll give 30 people $500 who repost this on X and say something nice to somebody and put. Yeah, dude, 30 people, $500. But it's not just giving it away. You're earning it for him. Our hero, Riley Green, new album deluxe album coming out August 29th. You can see him right now at 5:00'. Clock. Well, I guess not right now. 5:00pm today at the live golf tournament. Super Duper Kickoff Special Classic.
- [30:25]
Connor Stallion
Let's go.
- [30:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, start your thing with that live Indy. Riley, if you make it into any of those three holes over there, we'll give 30 people $500. All they got to do is repost to say something nice to somebody and put the easiest way to pay you. Thanks to your friend Riley Green, you can go to Riley's duck blind down there in Nashville. Good. You can go down. I don't know. That was Pittsburgh. I thought there was a little Southern in there.
- [30:50]
Connor Stallion
Yeah, there was some 20.
- [30:52]
Pat McAfee
Oh, wait a minute though. I really like what. I like that all the way back too. That was the. See, that one might be too flat. Is that too flat? You don't know that's too flat. Too flat. You need. You need to look for the. Throw college ball. Throw a college ball. College ball. Also throw ball.
- [31:10]
Connor Stallion
That's the Duke.
- [31:11]
Pat McAfee
But you could be.
- [31:12]
Ty Schmidt
Sling that thing.
- [31:12]
Connor Stallion
I don't know if he can get air pump.
- [31:15]
Pat McAfee
Well, the funny thing about that is it is cold in here. Now hold on. All right, you hit the. You want to hit the bear on the bear. Right on the forehead. Okay. If you hit the bear just in.
- [31:30]
Riley Green
General, everybody gets $10,000.
- [31:32]
Pat McAfee
Sorry.
- [31:34]
Connor Stallion
From you.
- [31:35]
Pat McAfee
You're giving away 10 grand. We'll give away all the profits from his next album foundation. Oh, yeah. Okay. Riley Green, if you're able to throw that football and hit that bear or put it any of those three holes. So you. If you have to audible last second if you hit anything over you've basically. But there is a lot of air out there that you can hit as well. Yeah, there's a lot of miss out there. We'll get forehead. Bare forehead. If you hit the bear in the forehead, we'll give 50 people 500. Oh, bonus ball. Bonus ball.
- [32:09]
Connor Stallion
Dead grab the college ball.
- [32:11]
Pat McAfee
You still haven't spoiled. You have not thrown a college. And look who's on that West Virginia right there. Coach Rod, bless that ball.
- [32:16]
Tony Meola
Did you play baseball too?
- [32:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [32:18]
Tony Meola
Did you pitch how fast?
- [32:19]
Riley Green
I couldn't throw a baseball. I could.
- [32:21]
Pat McAfee
Football. I could.
- [32:21]
Riley Green
I mean, I Can throw it all over the place.
- [32:22]
Pat McAfee
Sure.
- [32:23]
Connor Stallion
Yeah. We. Well, we know that.
- [32:25]
Pat McAfee
Danny. Be all right.
- [32:26]
Connor Stallion
Jeez Louise. One more there.
- [32:28]
Riley Green
There's another.
- [32:28]
Pat McAfee
Take some shrapnel.
- [32:30]
Connor Stallion
There's another college ball.
- [32:31]
Ty Schmidt
I love how hard you're throwing this. I love this.
- [32:35]
Riley Green
My golf pant all over hard.
- [32:37]
Pat McAfee
Riley, if you're able to hit this, people are going to win some green. Okay. 50 people, $500. All you have to do is take that ball and hit the bear. That is seven foot tall.
- [32:55]
Connor Stallion
Glide country worked out, Riley.
- [32:58]
Riley Green
I might as well throw the last three.
- [32:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yes.
- [33:00]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [33:01]
Pat McAfee
It's not gonna be 50 the whole time. You might. No.
- [33:03]
Connor Stallion
Yeah.
- [33:03]
Ty Schmidt
You might need to throw it a little bit harder.
- [33:05]
Pat McAfee
Oh, they got more ball. Yep. I'll feed you Alabama ball. That's what we needed.
- [33:15]
Ty Schmidt
Enough of this Sally shit. Throw it as hard as you can.
- [33:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah.
- [33:18]
Connor Stallion
What happens?
- [33:19]
Pat McAfee
30 people. You're getting unlucky here, dude. 30 people. $500 covered. A little more Bears. Yes. You did all right. You have to get the bear. This. Hey, this is final ball. Okay. Enough with the. Somebody got snapped. Oh, football. We play way back in the day. Cause you're so jacked. Why don't you make 30 people? Okay. 30 people. $500. Yes. Another incompletion. All right. That's why he does music. Okay.
- [33:57]
Riley Green
Story my college career.
- [34:00]
Ty Schmidt
You got a hell of an arm. You got a hell of an arm.
- [34:03]
Pat McAfee
You. This guy's got a real.
- [34:09]
Tony Meola
You impressed us today.
- [34:10]
Pat McAfee
You're throwing. Yeah, I know you're not gonna love that. That's how that went.
- [34:15]
Connor Stallion
We've had real quarterbacks come in here.
- [34:16]
Pat McAfee
Walk all the way up to the.
- [34:17]
Connor Stallion
Net, stand right next to and throw it in.
- [34:19]
Pat McAfee
So just throwing that, man. But what you need to know is a lot of people miss. And also you will be remembered. Yeah.
- [34:25]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [34:25]
Pat McAfee
Not only from our spirit in mind. For what you.
- [34:28]
Riley Green
It's like a tin cup thing, you know? I got a 13 on the last.
- [34:31]
Pat McAfee
Yep. We will watch. We will see Riley Green all over this office.
- [34:35]
Riley Green
Yeah.
- [34:36]
Pat McAfee
Forever. Yeah. I don't know if we'll ever clean that wallet. You hit one up near the cfb. You hit one right above, obviously, the bear's head. We see you there. We got Riley Green all over this place. That's how it's supposed to be. That's right. Yeah. That was. Appreciate you, man. Good luck at the live Super Duper Golf kickoff class.
- [34:50]
Ty Schmidt
Don't play during. Rams back. You'll beat your ass.
- [34:52]
Pat McAfee
Rom will fight you. He's got a good base.
- [34:57]
Riley Green
I get A I get a redemption dunk.
- [35:01]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [35:01]
Ty Schmidt
Hell yeah.
- [35:02]
Riley Green
If you dunk a basketball.
- [35:04]
Pat McAfee
You can't, but yeah, there's no chance.
- [35:07]
Riley Green
Now we got a white man can't jump thing going on here.
- [35:08]
Pat McAfee
Well, you're 36 years old. You're in cowboy boots.
- [35:12]
Riley Green
I got tennis shoes.
- [35:13]
Connor Stallion
No, you can't change.
- [35:14]
Pat McAfee
What are you gonna change? What do we have? What do you think we got?
- [35:18]
Connor Stallion
Good. Are you gonna do it in jeans?
- [35:20]
Pat McAfee
That was a good looking boot.
- [35:21]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah, is fair.
- [35:23]
Connor Stallion
I mean, a lot of people would say if you're a real cowboy, you dunking boots, but are those ostrich?
- [35:27]
Tony Meola
No, we don't need a Tom Segura situation in them boots.
- [35:29]
Ty Schmidt
Good point.
- [35:30]
Connor Stallion
I. I need a Tom Segura situation with Riley.
- [35:33]
Pat McAfee
You don't love Riley. That was Riley.
- [35:34]
Connor Stallion
But if I were to see that in person, my life would be fulfilled.
- [35:37]
Ty Schmidt
I don't need him breaking that right arm. I need you throwing footballs that hard for the rest of your life.
- [35:41]
Pat McAfee
Forever. Fire that pig skin, boy. And Riley said, I will. You were told that maybe that's a song. Oh, football play way back in. See? See, it's about to happen.
- [35:54]
Ty Schmidt
I'm gonna throw this thing so hard.
- [35:58]
Pat McAfee
I don't care what they say. Huh? Okay, hold on. You're just gonna hold on if you baby. Okay. Larry, you're from Jacksonville, Alabama, 36 years old. Riley Green, if you can dunk right now, we'll give 30 people. Count it. No way. Count it. No way. No way. Of course his hands gotta touch the rim. His hand didn't touch the rim. He threw it done.
- [36:22]
Connor Stallion
He said, one more, one more.
- [36:24]
Pat McAfee
I need another one. He says, excuse me, let me go ahead and get up there and get this thing. Let me wreck a rim. Oh, yeah. 30 people. That's an athlete. $500. Because Riley Green, still an athlete. Now, we don't know how this is going to carry. Yeah, that would adds a lot of explosion. I don't know how often you're doing that. You're incredibly jacked and you're incredibly talented. We appreciate you. That's Riley Green, ladies and gentlemen. Riley's a legend. Obviously, this is a sports show. He was a college football player. That's right. Got to keep in touch. Obviously, he's performing at a golf tournament. That's a lot of sports stuff. And he was awesome. You need to know, off air, he was just as awesome as he was on air. And we're pulling for him hard as we continue to go. Now, what happened while we were talking to him? And while that ran well, we have now learned of what the Michigan sanctions are going to be from the NCAA final from the Connor Stallion situation. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's been on the case literally since the beginning. Almost too much on the case that people told him, hey, it seems to be a little bit of a work. Ladies and gentlemen, the authority on college football and college basketball from college game day, Pete Thamel. Yeah. How you doing, Pete? I know you were catching the tail end of that. Did you think Riley Green was going to be able to dunk that second one or no?
- [37:33]
Pete Thamel
I thought he had no chance, Pat. I thought he had no chance, as.
- [37:36]
Pat McAfee
Did we, to be clear. Very much. Because he's very jocked. You think he'd be a little too stiff. He said he worked under the hoop. That was kind of his thing. New album, August 29th. Now, fam, let's get to this. Whenever we heard the NCAA was going to announce their punishment for the Michigan infractions, we wondered which one it was. Then he came in and said, well, this is the Connor Stallion stuff. This is the last of the Connor Stallions investigation. And basically it's a money game and a money play and Sharon Moore suspended one more game and it's the opener for 2026. Did I miss anything in there? And can you break it down for us a little bit?
- [38:09]
AJ Hawk
Bit sore, Pat.
- [38:11]
Pete Thamel
So it's going to end up being an unprecedented monetary cost for, for Michigan in this. I did some back of the napkin math. It's going to be, I would say, easily over $30 million. The two year postseason fine of what they would get for the post Michigan would normally get from the postseason. That number is a little bit nebulous just because of some of the vagaries, the CFP money and such. But that number is expected to be well over 20 million. There's an additional 7 million $10 budget fine and then a couple other fines. I won't bore you with the details. So it's going to be a significant amount of money. But that's, that's the main stick in this shroom. Moore had self imposed a two game suspension this year, which will still be served game three and game four. There's an additional game for him in 2026. Michigan oddly opens the season in Germany against Western Michigan. Moore still has the option of whether or not to appeal that singular game suspension for 2026. So we'll see if he ends up doing that or not in the, in the upcoming weeks. And then Connor Stallions himself Ty's personal hero. He has a eight year show cause coming to him which is essentially a employment ban. So Connor Stallions. It's highly unlikely we will see him on the sideline or on some watching someone else's sideline.
- [39:32]
Pat McAfee
Okay, one final one, one final one in there Pete. Take advantage, take the lap.
- [39:39]
Pete Thamel
And then. And Jim Harbaugh somewhat amusingly has a 10 year show cause which is inordinate length for one of these NCAA penalties. He obviously is the coach of the Chargers and doesn't really care. You would probably be amused. That is actually a 14 year show cause because this 10 year show cause starts in 2028. He has a four year show cause from one of the prior Michigan NCAA investigations. So I think that that would keep Jim until 2038. Eight off of, off of the collegiate sidelines. But that probably matters as much as me being banned from the Cathedral High School parking lot at this point.
- [40:13]
Pat McAfee
Well, I hope you're not banned from any high schools parking lots. Just going for.
- [40:17]
Pete Thamel
I went to high school, Pat.
- [40:19]
Pat McAfee
Okay, well shot to Cathedral and yeah, shout to you being a great grad of Cathedral and really breaking this all down for us. So basically it's money. Why would they suspend Sharon Moore in 2026 and not add another game to this particular season? And is there any punishment on the team? I saw the 10% of the revenue thing which off of 77 billion or whatever. 77 million would go down to 7 million which you addressed there. Does that carry over into next year or are they completely clean? Basically other than money, like is there a loss of scholarship? Is there anything that they can't do? Prohibited from football wise recruiting restrictions.
- [40:56]
Pete Thamel
But that stuff doesn't matter as much anymore in the NIL era. Just I think it's official official visit. So as far as the Michigan team, I think there's two big picture takeaways here, Pat. One is that there was no postseason ban in this despite, you know, being significant findings. And I think we've officially essentially ended the era of the postseason ban that the NCAA would give out. And within the 74 page ruling that the NCAA had, they kind of explained why it happened. And what they're doing is they're essentially taking the money from postseason as opposed to the postseason ban. This is a paradigm shift. But also dovetailing into that, Pat, this is really the last great NCAA case. The College Sports Commission is now going to investigate things that, you know, if there's vagaries and I L deals and such. But this is really the last Explosive, significant NCAA infractions case. NCAA will still oversee some gambling stuff. They're going to have their hands in a few eligibility things. So I'm not going to say we're never going to talk about the NCA making a decision again, but just in terms of NCAA enforcement investigating something, you know, significant and holistic like this, this is, there's a very good chance this is the last big NCAA case and we've seen these decades.
- [42:12]
Pat McAfee
Okay, let's dance on that grave. For sure. Thank God they're done. Jesus. Thank God. Yeah, I mean, they had a little bit of a terror on there for a while. Long time picking and choosing burgers and this. And you want to go back home. We let these other people, but you can't do it. Just kind of showcasing a power wielding his heavy sword, if you will, because they were the ones in charge of everything. Now, I assume it's a lot of work doing all the investigating. There's a lot of lawyers. I get it. It's not easy to do anything. But I believe you described, or in an interview with you, Charlie Baker described it as quagmire, you know, and you actually used the word, I believe, quagmire. You've previously said that this was a bit of a quagmire before you got here. Would you like to elaborate on that? And I was like, well, that's a great word. And then he said it was a quagmire. And you guys did all. The NCAA finding its new lane, whatever it is, is good for sports. Hell of a run in the investigating.
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Connor Stallion
Great job, kind of.
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Pat McAfee
Now, on that note, they, they couldn't help themselves. They had to do one last NCAA thing. They said, you know what, we're going to suspend them next season. So I have to talk about it again next year. Can you answer that? Why is.
- [43:19]
Pete Thamel
I believe, Pat, it's a timing issue because of the timing of when this is coming down. They are, they are moving it to next season. I don't think that the, the self imposed game three and four was what Michigan and Sharon proposed to them. And then this is an additional penalty. And I believe the timing of it being pushed next year is just simply because where we are right now. But I don't have a, I don't have a clear linear answer on that. And I don't think one is in the, in the materials, at least from what, from, from what I've seen. But it is, you know, it is a little strange. I mean, that certainly these, these things.
- [43:51]
Pat McAfee
Are never easy, sir Morris saying Guten cog. You said he had German classes lined up now he can't go to the game against Western Michigan next year. That's a real. I saw Portnoy, obviously a very distinguished alumni of Michigan. He had a cigar lit pretty good. Sitting down in a very luxurious place it appeared. And he was saying 20 million bucks, that's ashtray money for us. What are we even talking about here? That's real. Michigan has so many very, very, very wealthy. What is their Dow or whatever, the endowment?
- [44:22]
Tony Meola
I think $17.5 billion or something like that.
- [44:25]
Pat McAfee
You got Bentley's and Rolls Royces in front yards up there in, in the university. So it's like it being a money situation mostly for that school, they're probably saying all right, let's move. And I think we're all doing that with this, right? We're all just moving on now. It seems like it. And the 10 year show cause, 14 year, I guess in total show cause for Jim Harbaugh. I think we read Nicole our back tweet. That's basically like show cause means if you were to get hired back in, they would have to pitch basically for you to be able to get your job at that place to like the ncaa. They would have to make a ruling on it at the time. And then also if he was come back, I think she said he would be suspended for like a year or something like that. Which seems like a lot when he's already been suspended, what like four or five games. So that'd be a year and five games, 10 year show cost. Feels like that's heavy on Harbaugh. Is that because he's just been non compliant in this entire thing or what is that you think?
- [45:17]
Pete Thamel
Yeah, I think it's a confluence of things, Pat. Remember he started that 2023 championship season, self imposed three game suspension for the recruiting violations he served the three game Big Ten sportsmanship suspension at the end of the 2023 regular season before they went and won the title tied to the Stallions case. And he was not generally cooperative in this. So I think this is, this is the two parties agreeing that they'll never meet again.
- [45:42]
Pat McAfee
Hey, good to see you. Go see your phone? No. Who are you? You guys the FBI? Yeah. Oh, the ncaa. We gave up everything. We talked to you.
- [45:54]
Connor Stallion
Yeah, put it there.
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Pat McAfee
High five. Get out of here. I'll see you. That's unbelievable. I'm happy it's all over legit and I'm happy they didn't have to vacate a national championship. Yeah, I'm happy, you know, just strictly. And I know Ohio State fans are probably thinking the complete opposite. I know there's probably some people that are wishing they did have to vacate some things, but it's like there's no way the players knew that all this was happening at the same time or whatever was happening. And it's like they still had to go execute. And congrats to Michigan I guess moving on and all college football. And on that note, we got a couple more college ball questions for you Pete, if that's cool. Yeah, sure. Go. Big money coming to a school that I don't think a lot of us expected. Pete.
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Connor Stallion
Kansas. David Booth, basically a legend I'm sure before and now I believe his name is on the stadium. He donates $300 million to Kansas. Assuming this is going to all of their sports, should we expect, you know, Swagu Jr. To be a Kansas Jayhawk in 2027 for his freshman year? The number one basketball player in 2027. Do you think all that money is going to make Kansas unbelievable at sport? Should I bet on Kansas to win, you know, a college football playoff national championship in 2030? What is this 300 million going to be used for?
- [47:07]
Pete Thamel
Great question Connor. And I don't think I've ever seen a school shift like Kansas has had and go so hardcore in investing in football as it has in the past, I would say four or five years under athletic director Travis Goff. A majority of that money is going to go towards, towards the stadium that you see in the picture here on there David Booth Memorial Stadium. Not surprisingly, Kansas didn't play home football games in Lawrence last year. If you remember they played some in Arrowhead. They played at the MLS stadium in Kansas City because they were amid the, the multi hundreds of millions dollars refurbishment of of Booth Stadium. So this is part of this is going to go to, towards phase two of this project that is named obviously after, after David Booth. But you can't give Kansas administrators enough to getting there a few years ago realizing if we don't have vibrant big time football, our whole athletics department could get left behind in this new era which is so football forward. Obviously Kansas is that unbelievable basketball. You know, since James Naismith was there, right. Bill Self has had a run of dominance there. That's you know, generally the consistency has been unprecedented in, in modern times. But Kansas sat back and said look, if we're not good in football, the basketball stuff is going to get really hard. And so they went and hired Lance Leipold. He's done a great job. They were dismal for an extended period of time after Mark Mangino and before Lance Leipold. You remember the Charlie Weiss era. I mean, they were just. They were. They were the laughing stock of college football. And this is another sign that they are contenders again. Pat, you remember the energy that was there when we were there for game day a couple of years ago, and you can. You can feel the momentum growing. Jalen Daniels obviously has his last season of eligibility this year. They should be good again. I don't know if they're going to be at the top of the Big 12. They should be another very good competitive program again, which is giant progress for Kansas football.
- [48:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And if they got that type of money investment now, we assume that's going to continue. And I think that's what they were telling us when we were out there for college game day. It's like, hey, we are. This school is backing us right now, actually, our alumni is backing us. And we thought they were kind of bullshit. I think I thought they were kind of bullshitting, you know, and then all of a sudden they start building, building quickly, rapidly, and they're winning games. It's like, wait a second. You can. If you have a supportive alumni, you can turn some things around, especially in this modern era. In shutter, I think it was the Bell Tower. The Clock Tower.
- [49:18]
Connor Stallion
Campanile and Carly. Carlyon.
- [49:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. The. I remember we did. It was a super paisan name of the Bell Tower. That campus was awesome. They're giving away beers, I think at one of those places.
- [49:29]
Pete Thamel
Wagon Wheel, maybe. The Wagon Wheel.
- [49:31]
Pat McAfee
They were very. That place was alive. I was tcu. Right.
- [49:34]
Connor Stallion
That's when TCU went to the national championship, too.
- [49:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And that's when they walked by us.
- [49:39]
Connor Stallion
Yes.
- [49:39]
Pat McAfee
That was when. That was the first time that TCU team walked by. And I said my first reaction was, holy hell, yeah. These dudes are gigantic. They were so, so tall. It's like being on the field. Obviously, you see that. But that Kansas team had that run. Now they got money behind them. Why not keep it rolling? Speaking of money behind them, last question here for you, Pete. Actually, two more. I'm sorry. Go ahead, Ty.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Pete, speaking of the money, the. We've seen basically what Texas Tech is doing with their entire athletic department, and now they're kind of like the hot pick to click. Like, hey, this team could potentially win the Big 12 this year. Is that going to do we expect Texas Tech to be one of these teams over the next however many years to Be a major player in the Big 12. And do they have a realistic shot of winning the Big 12 this year, you think?
- [50:26]
Pete Thamel
I'll start with the second question, Ty. I think they have a realistic shot of winning the Big 12. I don't think they're the favorite. But look, if I had told you at this time last year Arizona State was going to be the Big 12, you would. You would have thrown me off the air and, you know, throwing some smelling salts under my nose to make sure I was okay. The Big 12 is a wide open league. They went out and spent a gargantuan amount of money in the NCAA transfer portal and brought in offensive line, defensive line, skill positions. And now in the recruiting space, they're significantly investing. And look, college sports have changed. It used to be stadium size. It used to be weight room. It used to be, you know, those types of budgetary numbers. Now it's what you can pay players. And Texas Tech, clearly, through Cody Campbell, their billionaire donor, has a competitive advantage in that space. I think they're very good this year. I'm not ready to call them Big 12 champion, but they have announced themselves as relevant and contenders in that league. As long as those finances follow.
- [51:18]
Pat McAfee
We know who's running the Big 12, and we have massive respect for everybody else down here. We know who's running the Big 12. You know who it is? Authority. You know what it is.
- [51:28]
Connor Stallion
Those Cyclones, man.
- [51:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. No.
- [51:30]
Pete Thamel
You want to hear a good West Virginia nugget?
- [51:32]
Pat McAfee
Oh, so you didn't know who I was talking about?
- [51:34]
Ty Schmidt
There we go.
- [51:34]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [51:35]
Pete Thamel
I got a great West Virginia nugget yesterday.
- [51:37]
Pat McAfee
Little hard edge nugget. Okay, let's get that search.
- [51:39]
Pete Thamel
Yes. So what, Rich Rod, your. Your former coach and friend, is a maestro of tempo, correct?
- [51:45]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah.
- [51:45]
Pete Thamel
Like that is. That is one of his things. He's one of the godfathers of tempo, really and everything. So I was told, reliably, Pat, that they will now bring eight ball boys on the road with them this year just to get the ball in quicker because four wasn't enough for Rich.
- [52:01]
Pat McAfee
Well, I think if you have the right four, four is enough. I think what Rich saw was, yeah, we got to turn over a lot of things around here, okay? And if you saw what happened at practice the other day, that would be that department. So if you saw. Yeah, that right there. You talk about ball boy. That's equipment manager. And the stripes there, he. He didn't spot the ball accurately. I think he's probably on the hot seat. If I had to guess that guy's got eyes on because Rich Rod said, hey, we need competition everywhere. Ball boys. Yep. You're talking every single part. You talk trainers, we're talking nutritionists, chefs, we're talking everything. Everything in the building. We need some competition because, boy, how was running here before I got here? A little bit different, a little softer. Now we're going to try to be the hardest program in all of United States of America for football. And I'll tell you what, if you're tough, West Virginia's place for you, we're gonna find you. But I'll tell you what, Arizona State, byu, I mean, there is. You start going through the Big 12, all of a sudden it's like, wait a minute. That is actually a real conference. Even though nobody talks about it, because the SEC in the Big Ten run everything and for good reason. Look at all the national championships. That's where they're coming from. But everybody with money has a real opportunity. And I know some people hate it, but if you're a school that has it like Texas Tech, you gotta love it. Kansas, you gotta love it. Even in West Virginia, we're enjoying kind of a little rebirth there. Tony has the last question for you, Pete.
- [53:17]
Tony Meola
Yeah, I do. Pete, I asked you about quarterback competitions yesterday. One that everyone said I left out was the Oregon one. I had a. I, I thought that Dante Moore was most likely going to be the starter there. Is that the case that you're hearing as well?
- [53:30]
Pete Thamel
I think that's. That's the expectation right now. Tone, as you, as, as you look at. As you look at Oregon, he's obviously been in the program. They paid him a lot of money to be the backup last year. But it wouldn't surprise me if we do see some real snaps from Austin Novasad this year. You know, really talented young guy coming in. But yeah, I would think that. I would think that Dante Moore is ahead there right now.
- [53:54]
Clark Hunt
And.
- [53:55]
Pete Thamel
But, you know, I don't know if it's. If it's just a hammer lock on the job.
- [53:59]
Pat McAfee
Oh, a hammer lock job. Yeah. Lock it. Yeah, I got you. I understand completely, Pete. We appreciate you. We'll see you on the road here soon. Way to really be at the beginning of this story. Yep. And now at the end of it. Way to. Way to really journalistic. The. Out of a couple bookends. Yeah. You are the Pete Temple bookend Connor Stallion story has ended. What new story will begin? How about the greatest college football season of all time? We're very close. Pete, you're the man. Have A good one, brother like Connor.
- [54:27]
Pete Thamel
I'm gonna throw my phone in the pond now. We could call it a day.
- [54:30]
Pat McAfee
Love that. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete's Hamill. Yeah. Get on a plane and go somewhere too, you know? Yeah.
- [54:36]
Connor Stallion
Should definitely go. Enjoy himself a little bit, dude.
- [54:39]
Pat McAfee
The calluses that he has had to build through this story.
- [54:42]
Connor Stallion
I mean, you almost had to put him in.
- [54:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [54:45]
Ty Schmidt
Rise here.
- [54:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Remember when I was. All right, we can talk about it now.
- [54:49]
Connor Stallion
Yeah.
- [54:50]
Pat McAfee
So whenever the whole we want it to Michigan after Pete Thamill has already broke this story situation was happening, you know, and Desmond talked his. Desmond is a Michigan guy. A lot of people got like, des just. He's representing Michigan. Like, I don't know. I think the Internet reacted in a way, and I think DEZ obviously understood what Pete was going through. I mean, it was just. I don't think there was any real heat behind the scenes. A lot of people were talking about it. And I would like to let everybody know, Pete and DEZ are two people that I very much enjoy. Like, I very much enjoy these people, and I'm very appreciative of them. So we're trying to figure out how they're gonna handle. Because they thought Michigan people were gonna potentially be a little. Yeah, because the shit that was being said on the Internet towards Pete was like, very, very, very serious. Like, you know, it's college ball, and these are cults, and you're attacking their cult. And, yeah, we think you're lying and you're being paid by Ryan Day. I mean, he was called everything, let alone he needs to die and everything like that. So we, I don't think, understood the severity of what was happening. We should have understood what the severity was happening. And we came up with an idea. He needs to be in war.
- [55:51]
Ty Schmidt
Media regard or correspondent.
- [55:52]
Pat McAfee
We're talking helmet thing, bulletproof vest right across his chest, and we need to drop him right in the middle of this thing. Yep. And everybody was like, we. We're gonna think about ideas or whatever. Like, we got the idea. This is what.
- [56:05]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I just told you.
- [56:06]
Pat McAfee
This is the idea. There's no. There's no. This is. And then they were like, you. You should go look at what's being said to people now. It's like, oh, we should not keep it. You should be away from here. There should be a little safety, I guess. Yeah. Smart place. Smart place.
- [56:16]
Connor Stallion
Although if he was.
- [56:17]
Pat McAfee
If he would have had that helmet. Crooked media thing. Yeah. Connor Stallion. Great.
- [56:23]
Ty Schmidt
It would have been incredible.
- [56:24]
Pat McAfee
It would have been the greatest moment of all time. But I think with those college fans, you do have to worry that, you know, a little early in the morning, maybe very late in the night.
- [56:30]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I was gonna say a couple.
- [56:31]
Connor Stallion
Cocktails, couple bottles get thrown.
- [56:33]
Pat McAfee
Especially with what we saw Bruce do to Pete.
- [56:35]
Connor Stallion
You know, true.
- [56:36]
Pat McAfee
And that was after the national.
- [56:37]
Ty Schmidt
But no one was also talking about Pete Thammel. You know, someone swinging on him and him just like. And then, you know, karate chopping some guy in the throat, incapacitating him.
- [56:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he looked a little James Bondi with those glasses. Exactly. That's why I put mine on. I was like, holy shit, that's a good look.
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Pat McAfee
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Connor Stallion
Halftime show.
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Pat McAfee
Everything that is marketing and the spectacle of football the Hunt family was behind. This guy also was a no nonsense trailblazer. I mean he was in a letter that we saw at the NFL hall of Fame that he wrote in the second bullet point, there was somebody he wanted executed. This guy is not allowed to be around anymore. So he was stern. I think he was fair. And he was a super visionist for football and his family obviously continuing to carry the torch. Right now there's a documentary out first two episodes of a seven episode docu series called the Kingdom on ESPN plus and Disney plus and obviously it's showcasing the current dynasty that the boys are on. It's. I think it's gonna be a really good show. The toxic tables here at Boss Connor at Ty Schmidt. You spent a lot of your night last night, con man with the Kingdom. Yeah, yeah.
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Connor Stallion
It was, it was interesting. Definitely. I was Patriots fan. It was one of those things where you're watching something and wishing you were the fan of the team that you were watching just because of how much cool information there was in there. The stuff that they still have. You mentioned the afl, the they showed in Kansas City. They have the original piece of paper that Lamar Hunt created the AFL on as he was in a detail oriented fellow a lot. Yeah.
- [60:30]
Pat McAfee
Back in the day you had to do a lot of. Right. Lot of writing back.
- [60:33]
Connor Stallion
Yeah. And he also, also too. It wasn't just football, it's just sports in general. He. I believe he started the world international tennis circuit. He's in the International Tennis hall of Fame. Lamar Hunt. And I believe he was one of the first investors in the mls. He tried to start a national American soccer league, the nasl. And that didn't Work out. So then that was in like the 60s. And then later on it actually said.
- [61:00]
Ty Schmidt
That he was very instrumental in bringing the World cup to the US in 94. And now his son has. Was very instrumental in bringing it back. When we're going to have it this next time.
- [61:09]
Pat McAfee
It's cool to learn about these stories, you know, because I would never thought that Obviously I understand that the Kansas City Chiefs fan base is awesome and the faithful is incredible. But like learning why, like, hey, this is one of the original brother. Like this is way back football. You know, I'm from Pittsburgh, so we're just like, hey, this is blue collar football town. Green Bay, you think the same exact thing. Kansas City, you think this town loves football. Then you learn the history of. It's like this is one of the founding towns of football. And also Lamar Hunt, one of the founding fathers of the league, like no questions asked in this entire thing. I think that's a nice piece of information because obviously the AFC championship trophy is named after him, right? And we hear that every single year, especially with the Chiefs winning. Everybody's like, well, isn't that just convenient? It's like there's a, there's a. That super bowl probably would have been, you know, if he didn't name it the super bowl in the Lombardi. It's like it's wild to learn about it. And there's Chiefs haters right now, of course, and boys address that in the doc. Chris Jones goes, man, we done turned into Patriots. They used to love us. Now everybody hates us or whatever. And it's like, that's what happens when you're successful. And they've been doing a long time there in Kansas City into your point.
- [62:10]
Connor Stallion
About them being a football city. When Lamar Hunt started the afl, he started in Dallas. He was the Dallas Texans. And then people in Kansas City after the NFL started, the Dallas Cowboys, they were like, hey, we probably have to move in the Kansas City, like mayor, people who worked in the city, like the city council, they basically sold Lamar Hunt like, hey, Kansas City will be perfect for a football team. And to your point, it really is a football time.
- [62:35]
Pat McAfee
It's certainly showcasing the Chiefs okay in that. But it's a lot of football history in there because this Lamar Hunt guy, I think is going to be remembered now after this. And I think, I think that's why we want to talk about about it so much is like, this dude deserves his flowers.
- [62:50]
Connor Stallion
Definitely.
- [62:50]
Pat McAfee
I mean, this is a dog and they're talking about him flying and coach and we're talking about actually using band aids to keep his glasses together. He was a photographer for the team. Like, you're just talking about like one of the most interesting people of all time who happened to love football, which we're incredibly lucky for one half of the Hammer done Cowboys. AP tone is here. Football is really close, brother. And this documentary has given us a little bit of a taste. A lot of big games being revisited in that thing.
- [63:13]
Tony Meola
Yeah, we are very, very close. And things like this kind of just like feed your itch in the meantime. And while the preseason get. Preseasons are nice. Preseason games are good. You could gamble on them. You can watch these. There's some starters playing here this weekend. But in the meantime, like on these, these lowly Thursday nights when it was just high school football or this pretty.
- [63:29]
Pat McAfee
Good high school game, though.
- [63:30]
Tony Meola
Great high school down in Georgia.
- [63:32]
Pat McAfee
Great.
- [63:33]
Connor Stallion
Great for Georgia.
- [63:34]
Pat McAfee
I know a couple Buford Dogs down there. Yeah, they got some beasts down there. That was good football.
- [63:38]
Tony Meola
But like, if, if you're not into that, this was, this definitely scratched the NFL itch last night.
- [63:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, certainly did. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, who is a man that was on a field yesterday with a whistle around his neck teaching the next generation of footballers how to properly tackle. He's a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion, a Ryder cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hobbit Hawker. Can we please talk about what you were doing last night? I love this. I love everything about this photo. I like that there's a house in the background because it looks like it's just a field in a neighborhood. Neighborhood. I like that there's a bunch of little boys wearing helmets and pads. And I like that the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay packers is right in the middle of it, trying to crowd it all. What are we doing here? What are the drills? Is this first day? How many days into this whole thing are we.
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AJ Hawk
We haven't had a game or anything yet. We're, you know, we're a couple weeks into this. First time tackle football for a lot of the guys on the squad. But yeah, we're, we do a little Oklahoma type drill where, you know, block and tackle and all that stuff. You got to teach them the basics. If we can block and tackle be all right.
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Pat McAfee
I love the fact that you're giving back to the game, to the next generation. That's Ohio right there. That's very Ohio. Yep. Okay, let's go to Pittsburgh guy. Aaron Donald in his living room or in his game room with his boy helmet on pads, on saying, hey, kid. Goes right for the temple. And he. Aaron laughs. Mom goes, hey, hey, can't be. And Aaron's just laughing down there. It's like passing the game on to the next generation is such an important piece, I think, of our sport. I think it's a very valuable piece of our sport. And in doing so, I think the game is only going to continue to grow. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man whose family has been a part of the NFL since its inception. A man whose family is obviously in the middle of a dynastic run and also in the middle of a documentary series about them and their family that I assume is an anxiety riddled type of situation beforehand, but also getting a chance to showcase it. Ladies and gentlemen, owner of the Kansas City Chiefs, chairman and CEO of the Chiefs, ladies and gentlemen, Clark Hunt. How you doing, boss?
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Clark Hunt
I'm doing great. So glad to be on with you.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, thank you for joining us. Legitimately, we've gotten a chance obviously to watch your operation from afar and obviously have been big fans of this dynastic run that you guys have all put together. But watching this documentary, learning about your family's contributions to the sport has been very cool. Are you excited for the world? This may be a generation that hasn't really fully learned about what your family has done for the sport and your dad has done for the sport. Are you excited for everybody to kind of learn that story through this documentary?
- [66:07]
Clark Hunt
Absolutely. I think one of the best things about the documentary is not only does it chronicle the success that we've had over the last six or seven years, but it also goes back all the way to the founding of the franchise back in 1960 when my dad pulled together the American Football League, got got the group of owners, which he nicknamed the Foolish Club, together to take on the NFL. And shows the early history of the Chiefs organization as the team moved to Kansas City and then of course, transitions into the Andy Reid era.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, the Andy Reid era has certainly been a great one. Them showcasing Brett Veach and his big brain. The story of them talking about Patrick Mahomes.
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Connor Stallion
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And how they found him. Go ahead.
- [66:50]
Connor Stallion
Brett Veach was watching the left tackle from Texas Tech and then was basically after a couple plays said, who the hell is this quarterback? And then watched every single play from Patrick Mahomes. Texas Tech career is unbelievable.
- [67:01]
Pat McAfee
And then there's a story, allegedly that Andy Reid walked by his office and said, what are you doing? And Brett Veach said, I'm watching the next quarterback of the Kansas City Chiefs, allegedly from this one wormhole, Brett, that each one. And he knew that this was going to be the guy. You guys trade a future first to move up to 10 to draft Patrick Mahomes, and then obviously, it all goes how it goes. Whenever you're making all these decisions and you're putting trust in Brett Veach and Andy Reid to kind of guide the football side of the Chiefs, are you expecting greatness immediately out of everybody? And through those hard times, did you wonder if we're ever going to get back on top? Was there ever any worry?
- [67:35]
Clark Hunt
Yeah, absolutely. We'd been through a tough couple of years back in 2011, 2012. Actually only won two games in 2012. That was a very tough season, both on the field and off. And we were so blessed to be able to bring Andy Reid to Kansas City. And I knew he was the type of coach that we needed. We needed an experienced coach, somebody who had been there and done it, somebody with tremendous attention to detail and an ability to really, really connect with his players. And all Andy does is come in and we win nine straight games. Right. You know, basically the same team that only won two the year before. And that just shows you the immediate impact that he had on our culture. And then you mentioned Brett Veach, who came with Andy from Philadelphia, did a fantastic job in our scouting department. Obviously, the fun story about him scouting and finding Patrick Mahomes, and I remember Andy telling to me about, you know, Brett would put a tape on his. His desk every week and say, you've got to look at this tape. And it was a tape of Patrick, you know, doing amazing things at Texas Tech. And eventually Andy was like, I got it. I got it. You're right. This. This guy's special. We got to figure out how to get him.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I guess Andy Reid also said in there, when Brett Veets, when they were together in Philadelphia, whenever he said something about a player, he was never wrong. And it's like that eye for talent is something only a few people have. You seemingly got multiple people in that building, let alone you. Your coordinators are all hall of Famers as well. Run a good operation over there, boss. You should be incredibly proud of that. Go ahead, A.J.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, speaking of Andy Reid, as far as this documentary goes, how did you talk him into. How do you present this to him to where he would be okay with all the access that you guys have given, all these cameras and microphones, obviously inundated with everything you do?
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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Clark Hunt
Well, last year, before the season, we were approached by several Groups that wanted to do a documentary about our pursuit of the third straight Lombardi Trophy. And at first we worried about the distraction that would come with that, but we got comfortable as we went through the process, particularly with words and pictures. Who's the team that pulled this all together and made it happen? We knew the great work that they had done with the Chicago Bulls, which our families also involved with in putting together the last dance. And so we really thought they were the right group to do it. Andy at first was a little reluctant, but we got him comfortable with the fact that it wouldn't be too intrusive, it wouldn't distract too much from the mission, which was to get back to the super bowl and hopefully win it. And at the end of the day, you know, Andy ends up being one of the stars of the show, of course, which he typically is. Right. That that episode lasts night, you know, which really focused on him. The don't, don't judge episode, I think is really special and it shows what an incredible person and coach Andy is.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, we even visit his punt passing kick days, which. We've all seen the clips. We've all seen the clips. Andy Reid's always going to be a star. You got a lot of stars on that team at this point. And I appreciated. One of the clips was Patrick Mahomes telling the cameras, like, hey, turn them off or whatever. Cameras stay on. We're just going to go, hey, we're still going to get your audio though, bro. And then we'll ask you later if it's okay if we put it out. It's like, I think they did a very good job kind of piecing it all together. Ty has a question for you. Mr. Hunt.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Mr. Hunt, do you feel pressure to be like, a visionary and very forward thinking due to the legacy that your dad has within the NFL? And for all he accomplished for the league, obviously the league is much different now than when, you know, he was kind of, you know, building it from the ground up. But do you feel, feel that pressure on a day to day basis?
- [71:13]
Clark Hunt
You know, my dad was an incredible individual, and you guys have talked a little bit about all that he accomplished in professional sports, which extended beyond American football to soccer and basketball and tennis. I mean, he truly was a visionary and pro sports in this country wouldn't be where it is today without him. You know, when I took over the reins from my dad almost 20 years ago, I thought a lot about how I needed to lead the Chiefs. And at the end of the day, I decided that I needed to rely on my own strengths and be my own person, because there's no duplicating Lamar Hunt. But something that my siblings and I always talk about is we've got to make sure we preserve his legacy because it's so special. So really, every decision that we make, we make that decision with a framework of, you know, what would Lamar Hunt have done? We think about that and how this continues to shape his amazing legacy in pro sports in the United States.
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Pat McAfee
What a brain on that guy. And obviously you as well. But this is a showcase of your dad there. Early in this documentary, when we were at the hall of Fame, I'm telling you, we were, I mean, a little tuned up, I think we had a couple drinks. You know, we had a couple drinks, and they were giving us a tour of the place, and we went down the vault, and we were talking to Ted. Oh, Bruce, can you help me? What's his name? Bruce?
- [72:35]
Clark Hunt
John at the.
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Ty Schmidt
At the hall of Fame.
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Pat McAfee
John at the hall of Fame. Okay, Jake, let us. To John, we apologize. John, though, like, historian like you guys have for the Chiefs, Bob Moore, I think I saw the guy that was showcasing you guys. We go into the hall of Fame vault, pulls out the letter, the actual letter that your dad sent, I believe. And that's what they say, at least if you have it in yours. I mean, there's conflicting reports, but the way the hall of Fame said was the actual letter, and we were reading it, and it's like you could just kind of feel the type of person your dad was as a visionary. He said, we need something like the Gray cup or like the Stanley Cup. We. I've jokingly called it the super bowl, but we can obviously revisit that. Like, that was like a throwaway at, like, number five at the bottom of the. The page. And then he started showcasing these other things back whenever. I think it was 19. Oh something, 1906. 19 guys died playing football. So then they had to go five by five on the. Like, we did a full history of the game there with John, and your dad was ever present through the entirety of it. And then this documentary kind of shows up here two weeks later. We just want to let you know, we didn't know for a long time, and we're football people. It's been an honor to learn about your dad being a beast, man. He. He was an absolute beast. I think he had to be. And whenever you guys are working with him while doing this, and you have to. Let's say nowadays, and you say, what Would Lamar. Lamar Hunt, do you think this documentary he would have loved? Is there anything that you have to do in a modern age that you think, like, maybe he wouldn't have liked doing this or he would have loved this particular thing that we're kind of doing right now. Do you ever have those types of moments with your dad? Yeah.
- [74:07]
Clark Hunt
And thinking about the documentary, I think he would love it because at the end of the day, he believes the game is all about the fans. And this documentary gives our fans a real behind the scenes of look. Not only that, at everything that took place at our practice facility and at games to get back to the super bowl, but it also tells a lot about the personal lives of some of the key figures on the team, including Travis and Patrick and Chris Jones and Andy Reid really shows what goes into it from an emotional standpoint and the tremendous character that those individuals have. So I think he would absolutely love it because at the end of the day, he was about making the fan experience as good as it possibly could be.
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Pat McAfee
I love that. I love to hear it. On that note, Tone has a question for you.
- [74:55]
Tony Meola
Yeah, Mr. Hunt, I have a. I have a question about the stars on your team. Obviously, Patrick is. Is a ginormous star in the NFL world and doing quarterback and stuff like that, but we just saw it this week with Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift on the New Heights podcast. They broke every single record in world. Obviously Taylor coming to your games and stuff like that. But Travis being as big as a star now as he is, I assume that. That you guys don't hate this and. And this is all good for business.
- [75:22]
Clark Hunt
Yeah. Well, first of all, let me just say how happy we are for their relationship. They're an amazing couple and watching the two of them together is really special. And, and you know, that podcast, seeing them side by side talking about the relationship was absolutely amazing. It's been a wonderful whirlwind, I would say, for the organization over the last two years since Taylor literally stepped into our lives. She's done an amazing job, unintentionally of increasing our female fan base. We used to be about a 5050 ratio male to female fan base, and now 57% of our fans are female, which I think is probably the highest in the National Football League. So there's absolute, absolutely been a Taylor Swift effect. And I should just should say that my daughters couldn't be happier that we have her as part of the Chief's kingdom now.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, they're not the only ones, brother. I mean, it is great for the entire sport. We think we are big football people. So we love it that the biggest star on earth is involved. I couldn't even imagine being actually the owner of the team. We love it too, brother. We certainly love it it as well her though the securing the stadium and getting her in there. And obviously the story goes, we learned on the New Heights podcast, 1.3 million concurrence that's at that time, let alone they put out the numbers afterwards. We're talking records all over the place. She just walked in the front door I guess of Arrowhead the first time she went there. Then obviously it's become an entire thing. We've heard about the three floor suite potentially in the stadium. It's kind of like rumor allure about it. But have you guys had to change anything because the biggest star on earth is coming in there and obviously once it's known that she's coming, it becomes an even bigger kind of chaotic shit show almost outside of that thing.
- [77:10]
Clark Hunt
Yeah, it's been a little challenge for our security folks, but they've done a great job both at home games and on the road. She's attended a number of away games as well and they do a great job of getting her safely into the stadium. But I think the most amazing thing about that first game, which you know, caught us all by surprise, was the fact that she literally walked in the front door and you know, we had offered to get her some special security and she said no, I want to be just like a typical fan. I'm coming straight in the front.
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Pat McAfee
She's a dog, dude. She's a dog. I mean we all need to understand that at this point. She is an absolute dog. She's a great football person. Like we are very thankful she's in the football world. I obviously you have are as well. Yeah, we don't do that. Clark, we appreciate you man. What's life like right now for the preseason for you? What, what, what do you have cooking on a day to day during these days?
- [78:01]
Clark Hunt
Yeah, well, I'm headed to Seattle later today. We play the Seahawks tonight and obviously the focus this time of year is evaluating your young players. And I think Brett Veach has done it again. We have an amazing draft class. They looked great last week. I can't wait to see them play tonight. I think they'll play a big part in our success this year.
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Pat McAfee
Hell yeah. Connor has a question for you, boss.
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Connor Stallion
Yeah, Mr. Hunt. Speaking of the draft you guys kind of hosted in 2023 and that was one of the first big Massive draft nights. You know, Nashville comes to mind, and even Green Bay this past season. It feels like the draft has become a massive, you know, fan experience in the offseason.
- [78:41]
Pat McAfee
Lamar Hunt would love.
- [78:42]
Connor Stallion
Lamar Hunt would love it. Yeah.
- [78:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he would add. Yep, yep.
- [78:45]
Connor Stallion
Big nod in the head.
- [78:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [78:46]
Connor Stallion
How was that experience, kind of hosting the draft in your own city? And then also, how much better is it for you as an owner now that you aren't picking at the top of every draft and you can kind of hang out and wait till the end of it?
- [79:00]
Clark Hunt
Yeah, well, of course, you know, picking at the end of the round makes it tough, but Bretton, his staff are up to the challenge every year, and it seems like, you know, they find some real gems and hopefully did it again this year with Josh Simmons. But, you know, going back to hosting the draft in Kansas City, what an amazing opportunity that was to showcase Kansas City. And I thought Kansas City did a fantastic job. It was an amazing event. 300,000 people attending. It was just a lot of fun all the way around. I think that's one of the best decisions that the NFL has made in recent years, is most moving the draft around to different cities and letting them have that opportunity. Because there are passionate fan bases across.
- [79:44]
Pat McAfee
The US Especially in these cities that probably won't get a Super bowl, you know, because weather restrictions and it all. So you have the draft that is a celebration of football. It's still a festival. It's multiple days. Obviously it's not super bowl, but it is awesome. And it's all because Radio City Music hall said, we don't got time for you. Sorry, NFL. The Raw Cats got to do a show, and then it's become one of the biggest nights of the offseason for us combine. First couple days, draft the only thing that carry us in the offseason. So if you guys want to think of more, you know, super duper things in the off season, we would be very grateful. Just know that whenever you guys do that, the people that talk every single day would love everything about that. Last question here from A.J. go ahead, boss.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, Mr. Hunt, I was curious how competitive you may be with the other owners. I think if you guys getting together at the owner's meeting, maybe other events where you. You guys are together, and we know, like, everybody wants to win. We know that you've. You've been in a great spot here for a while now, but are you guys competitive? Do you guys talk? Do you joke around back and forth about your franchise and how they may.
- [80:41]
Clark Hunt
Be doing Yeah, I think everybody who's involved with the NFL is incredibly competitive. You know, my dad used to say this is a really unusual business because six days a week you're trying to work together to make the NFL better, and then on Sundays, you want to punch your best friends. And that's absolutely how it is. Everybody cares a lot about winning. I think that's something that our fan base understands. And, you know, I'm lucky to have, you know, so many great partners in the NFL, but certainly on Sundays, I want to come out on top.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, let's talk about a couple of those partners that you might be able to either gain knowledge from or give knowledge to. Here in Indianapolis, obviously, three daughters of Jim are taking over the team. Second generation now, third generation. Ownership in the family. Obviously you would understand a situation like this, even though it happened to you, I think, at a little bit older age than like, Kaylin or Carly Casey. Do they reach out? Do. Do you guys reach out to the. To the daughters or the next set of ownership whenever teams have a situation arise like the one we have right now in Indianapolis?
- [81:48]
Clark Hunt
Yeah, I think that's one of the great things about the NFL ownership group is how collaborative we are. I remember when I took over for my dad that John Mayer reached out to me and said, hey, if you want to, you know, bounce any ideas off me, you know, if you've got some questions that you need to answer, I'd love to talk to you about it. So it is a group that works really well together. Obviously, when you have these transitions, they're very difficult. Difficult. There's a lot of responsibility. Even though I got to work with my dad for many years before he passed away, you know, the first time that that spotlight is on you, it is really, really challenging. And, you know, there definitely, in our case, were some. Some hard days. I made some mistakes and hopefully learned from those mistakes and certainly had a lot of good resources to balance ideas off.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Where's the man? You know, when he sits down, is it in this drawer? And then on the flip side of that, did you reach out or have you reached out to Kraft about. Because obviously now post their dynasty run. 20 plus years. Absurd. Insane. None of us really know. You guys are obviously going to try to attain that and, you know, supersede that and everything. But now we've learned that there's been a lot of shit that he had to deal with while they were doing their dynasty as an ownership, as an owner. Have you reached out and chit. Chatted about that or do you think you have a different kind of culture than what was happening in New England and it's not really the same operation?
- [83:15]
Clark Hunt
Yeah, well, we're very close to the Kraft family. My dad and Robert were very good friends and I consider Jonathan Kraft a close friend as well. We've not only been involved in the NFL together, but we've been in Major League Soccer since the start back in 1996. So we get to spend a lot of time with him. When we started going to the Super Bowl, I did reach out to Jonathan, you know, just to ask his perspective because they'd been to so, so many games and, you know, what were the do's and don'ts and, you know, how did you need to maximize the opportunity and make sure that the team remained focused on. On the task at hand. So they were a tremendous resource to me and, you know, I feel very blessed that we've been able to have this dynastic run, you know, following the amazing success that they had for over a decade.
- [84:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they. Yeah, yeah, true today. They were a long time. I was in the NFL during a portion of it. I was in high school during a portion of it, and I was. It was a long, long ass time. Off topic, your family, I think soccer, obviously, you talked about, you know, Major League Soccer, nasl, everything in America. I think your boy plays, I think. I'm not 100% sure, but I think I've seen he plays down at smu, I think, which is your college. Are we ever going to win this thing? Do you think our team's ever going to get. What do you think? I have faith. I like Ponch, the head coach of the U.S. men's National Team. You think we have a chance?
- [84:43]
Clark Hunt
Yeah. Well, first of all, getting to host the tournament back in the US Is going to be tremendous for the sport. And typically the host countries do very well in the World Cup. In fact, you can go back to 1994 when the US hosted the tournament, and we made it further than that tournament than we had made it in many, many years. So I would expect that we'll get a boost from hosting the tournament. I do think we're doing a much better job developing players. And at the end of the day, you know, that's really what you have to do. We've got to have world class players if we want to one day aspire to win the World Cup. I would hope that we're going to advance deep in the Cup. I don't know that we'll win in 26, but I certainly expected in the coming years, we're going to win in 2026.
- [85:28]
Pat McAfee
We're going to win. We're going to be loud, too, over here. We are going to be very loud and obnoxious about it. Just know that. I know you can't, but just know that we will be the obnoxious Americans through that entire World cup run. And we are expecting a title. Yes, it's coming home. It is certainly coming home. Tony Meola, Kobe Jones, Alexi Lawless in the Boys back there. Oh, 1994. He wasn't around. Tab Robust, but yes, Jeff Cameron would.
- [85:53]
Ty Schmidt
Have fit in with that guy. Yeah, he would have for sure.
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Pat McAfee
Clark, safe travels out to Seattle. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Congrats on everything, by the way.
- [86:00]
Clark Hunt
Yeah, thank you very much. Great. Great to be on. Fun to get to talk about the kingdom. We couldn't be more pleased about it as an organization.
- [86:08]
Pat McAfee
All right. Hey, did you know our show existed before they told you to come on this show?
- [86:12]
Clark Hunt
I'd heard rumors about it.
- [86:15]
Pat McAfee
Sweet.
- [86:16]
Clark Hunt
Absolutely.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, we appreciate you taking the time. You're the man, Laser gentleman. Clark Tyne.
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Connor Stallion
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Whenever they show up and then it starts going how it's going. What is this? This is not what I expect.
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Ty Schmidt
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Connor Stallion
I assume full happen with Riley Green.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, Riley Green. Is this what. This is great.
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AJ Hawk
That dude's got a cannon, bro.
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Pat McAfee
How about him? And he's dunking.
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AJ Hawk
He's one foot dunking too that's amazing.
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Pat McAfee
So he did like, before the show, before we recorded. He was awesome. I'm telling.
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Connor Stallion
He was the best guest we've just had in the, like, excluding interview, just hanging out. He's one of the top three, for sure.
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Pat McAfee
I think so. Yeah. Just came and sat down and just immediately right into the fire. I mean, no questions asked with his accent, in his own way, you know, in a very southern country way, you know, it was. It was spectacular. And he walked in and we saw a silhouette first sideways, and he had that hat. And then his mustache. Mustache was just like. So. Yeah, it was. It was like an.
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Ty Schmidt
It was billowy.
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Riley Green
It was.
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Pat McAfee
It was. Yeah. And it just. He had like that. Hey, how you doing, Riley? It was like this guy. Yeah. Holy hell. Shirt tucked in immediately upon enter. I mean, you're talking just. Absolute gentleman was doing construction. Yeah, we appreciate him. Okay, let's talk about the news that broke today. Obviously, I'm excited to get your take, and I would like you to not only speak for yourself. Okay. I'd like you to speak for a legion of people that you represented as the president of Ohio for a couple of years. Ohio State fans, reaction to the Michigan punishments that have been kind of announced today. It's basically money. It's going to end up being like 25, 30 million all in. If they end up playing, they won't be able to receive any college Football playoff funds. They got fined like 7 point something million dollars on top of that. Sharon Moore suspended in 2026. There's a $50,000 fine to the football team as well. I think that they're taking away one chamber, one hyperbaric chamber. 50,000. I think they're keeping a quarter of it, though, because I think it is like 75 or. I think they're keeping 33% of the hyperbaric chamber. I think it was 75,000.
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Connor Stallion
Sure.
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Pat McAfee
So they took $50,000 of the hyperbaric chamber out. So I don't know how they're going to be able to close the end, but there is still a little bit, seemingly, if I'm a Michigan fan, very excited that this is over. Now, as somebody who respects the hell and appreciates college football as a whole, had no idea we were still in the middle of this. You know, like when the tweet came out that the NCAA will be making its final ruling on Friday for a ruling on Friday, I thought to myself, this can't still be Connor Stallions. It is. That'll carry all the way into 2026. With Sherro more suspension, how do you think the people of Ohio are feeling? I'm sure they're very reasonable about it all.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah, I mean, I can't exactly speak for the people of Ohio. I'm sure there's.
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Pat McAfee
You're the president.
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Connor Stallion
Yes, you can.
- [90:21]
AJ Hawk
I can speak for myself, I guess. I think there's definitely people that are fans of Ohio State that expected something like this. Especially when we had Pete come on yesterday and Pete basically told us it's not going to be some gigantic situation where they, you know, there's a postseason bull ban or anything like this. Like, I'm, I'm personally like torn on it because I don't think you should. I don't want the players there now to get punished. Like, I don't think you should punish players that are there now for something that happened before they even got to school. Like, I don't. I think that's stupid. It rips those dudes off and the head coach is gone. Already coached the NFL 10 year show clause. Might as well be 100 year show. Like, who cares? That doesn't matter.
- [90:56]
Pat McAfee
We know that's four years and 10 and then it didn't run concurrently. You, you know, those are, those are stacked on top of each other. But yes, I think as you read through it all in Connor Stallion, eight years, I think he has a show cause. But if you read Nicole Erbach's tweet about Jim Harbaugh, everybody's like assuming that Connor Stallion just kind of banned. It's like, no, they just have to make a pitch for why he's allowed to coach there. And they just gotta showcase that they have certain things in place that'll make sure he doesn't cheat again or something like that's basically how it was worded. And you know, that's just kind of. I think Connor Stallion is probably pretty excited about everything. That's hard.
- [91:34]
AJ Hawk
Think someone hires him?
- [91:36]
Connor Stallion
Yeah.
- [91:36]
Pat McAfee
From what we learned from watching that doc, it's like, I don't know how he doesn't have a job in the NFL already just doing data shit, you know, just like he's a data analytics guy. He went, he was obsessed with it. He was a raw with this entire thing. We're talking about sleeping on the side of the road in a car in between, you know, like, this dude was committed to the game and now did he go too far? Everybody in football was like, yes, if he was recording and going too far. But everybody in football was also like.
- [92:03]
Ty Schmidt
Man, why don't we hire that Guy.
- [92:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you should have done that. It's always, it's just like up in New England with everything that was getting caught, like Spygate, everybody still kind of holds over Belichick. Not everybody, but there's some people that still hold that over. But every NFL player and coach was just like, let's move along, let's move along. Let's not dig too deep into this thing. Like obviously can't do it. He got punished. Let's not start turning over stones in everybody else's backyard. Let's not. Let's just keep it moving. And I feel like this kind of fell into that same thing and inevitable, like at the beginning it was like, this is scumbaggery. And I think as we continue to learn, as it continue to go, is like, all right, the ten year thing though, the hard boss. Why.
- [92:41]
Connor Stallion
Yeah.
- [92:42]
Pat McAfee
Are they trying to guess how long his career is going to be with the Chargers? If this guy thinks he's going to come back after a 10 year career in the NFL, he's got another thing coming. He'll be suspended for a year, allegedly is what Nicole Auerbach reported. If he was to come back during this 14 year show. Cause suspension that he having is having going on. But yeah, I think if you're a Michigan fan, you're, you're a. Okay, moving forward here. They paid Bryce Underwood, what, 16 million. Yeah. That kid's going to be there for three years.
- [93:09]
Connor Stallion
For year.
- [93:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So. And they just picked up what's his name, the guy that owns Lanai.
- [93:14]
Ty Schmidt
Larry Ellis Allison.
- [93:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Larry Ellison is not a booster of a school that he never went to because he's second or third wealthiest person or fourth wealthiest person in the world. He's the one that paid for the price Underwood thing. Just. I don't know. Yeah. You got how much we need? Yeah, he actually wired it from the island of Hawaii that he owns in Lanai up through his own satellite and then dropped it in directly into Bryce Underwood's bank account that he probably owns too. Somehow it's like they're not worried about money up there in Michigan. The NCAA should have been like $150 million. And we're going to get a renovation of the office. Yeah. You know, we're going to use Michigan to do it. And they would have still acted the same exact way. Yeah, we move along here.
- [93:52]
AJ Hawk
Where's that money go?
- [93:53]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
- [93:54]
Connor Stallion
It's a good question.
- [93:55]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. The NCAA, it's a lot. Yeah. 20 some million. Yeah, it's A lot of money. Also Notre Dame. How much money they make for College Football Playoff versus everybody else. Oh, yeah.
- [94:05]
AJ Hawk
Smart all. Why would they ever join a conference?
- [94:07]
Connor Stallion
Bingo.
- [94:08]
Pat McAfee
Why? Well, why wouldn't anybody else be trying to get out of a conference?
- [94:11]
AJ Hawk
Exactly.
- [94:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You know, like, true. Wow. If you're a big brand who can.
- [94:16]
AJ Hawk
Split it between 36 other. Other sports or what?
- [94:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, for instance, let's say Ohio State. And Petit is not going to like this. And we like Petiti and we like the Big Ten. And we. We like Ohio State. You can throw Michigan in there, too. But Ohio State. Let's just talk Ohio State. Ohio State. Columbus. Highest rated on everything college game day. Columbus. The rating is insane. Ohio State games are playing Anybody? The rating is insane. Why is Ohio State playing in the biggest game of the week for Fox, who just paid billions of dollars for the Big Ten deal, literally at noon every single. Why do the people of Ohio State hate the situation that the primetime game on their network. Network. Is at noon instead of at night? It's because Ohio State moves the needle no matter what that is. What if Ohio State was to be an independent operation? Seamless.
- [95:01]
Connor Stallion
Yeah.
- [95:01]
Pat McAfee
It would be an absolute seamless operation. Now, Petit doesn't hear that. I understand that, and I assume people at Ohio State don't want to hear that either, but that's like a very real thing. There's probably, what, like four schools that could do it, five schools that could do it and just kind of have their own fans will support us.
- [95:16]
Connor Stallion
Texas.
- [95:16]
Pat McAfee
So we go. No matter. Texas has the opportunity to do that.
- [95:19]
Tony Meola
They did it.
- [95:19]
Pat McAfee
Kind of. Yeah.
- [95:20]
Ty Schmidt
Longhorn network.
- [95:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Notre Dame. Obviously able to do it. They are currently doing it, but it's not like everybody could do that. But if you had the capability and had the platform and the base and knew that your fans were going to support wherever you want and TV deals are going to be ready for you as soon as you went there. It's like, why wouldn't you want to take the full allotment of a College Football Playoff bonus as opposed to having to split it with literally 18 different people? That's an interesting little thing. Shout out to Notre Dame.
- [95:46]
Connor Stallion
Yeah.
- [95:46]
Pat McAfee
Like literally from the jump having this. But if you're those other schools that could do this, you got to be at least snooping around a little bit on how this would be possible.
- [95:54]
Ty Schmidt
Probably won't ever happen because that's kind of like the benefit for a lot of the other teams in the Big Ten. But it will be interesting if in like, four years, let's say, like, the only teams from the Big Ten that have made the College Football Playoff are Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State and Oregon. Yeah, I forget they're in the Big Ten. Like, they might go back, be like, hey, we're done doing this. Like, everyone gets an equal distribution of, like, we're the only teams that are making to the playoffs. So, like, we're not just going to let our continued success kind of let all these other schools eat, like you wonder. I mean, obviously there are bylaws in place that probably make that impossible to happen, but it is interesting because if you just continually have those teams kind of setting the bar in a conference and you could go to the other conferences, too, it's the same deal. It's like, hey, what? Why are we the ones who are having all the success and we're kind of getting punished by it? Because we have to give, you know, the Northwesterns of the world two and a half million dollars because we make the playoffs.
- [96:47]
Pat McAfee
Pete Bavakwa and Marcus Freeman up there at Notre Dame, like, how much money you guys getting for this game?
- [96:53]
Ty Schmidt
Two and a half million.
- [96:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That's nice. 20 of them. For what? What you guys just did. Yeah.
- [97:01]
AJ Hawk
Why would they ever. When people try to get him to join a conference, why would they have.
- [97:05]
Pat McAfee
Well, especially if Marcus Freeman is going to continue to lead the boys. Yeah. You know, like, that's a huge payday. Obviously, March Madness and everything is big money for universities as well, but if you're Notre Dame and your football team can get to the College Football Playoff, we're going to have new buildings up there on a very regular basis. And not that that campus isn't already beautiful, which it is, but it's like they got it figured out up there, and good for them. All right, let's move along. Let's go to the NFL. There's preseason action happening. There's some notables playing age. We got some big names. Prime time. Caleb Williams will make his debut on the Ben Johnson offense. And allegedly, you know, Zito found a tweet from somewhere deep in the annals of the Internet. Caleb Williams having a good day today against the Buffalo Bills. You got Herbert playing. Obviously, hardball's gonna have the boys spinning a little bit. Geno Smith. Bruce Purdy. Bruce.
- [97:52]
Connor Stallion
Yo, hold on, hold on.
- [97:55]
Ty Schmidt
He should think about that.
- [97:56]
Connor Stallion
Bruce? Is that his dad's name?
- [97:58]
Pat McAfee
I'm sure there's a Bruce in Purdy Field.
- [98:00]
Connor Stallion
His grandpa got to be Granddaddy. Granddaddy.
- [98:03]
Pat McAfee
Bruce Grandpappe Granddaddy Brock Pie playing Cam Ward, Anthony Richardson, Danny Dimes continue their quarterback battle. Sam Darnold. How you doing? Seattle Seahawks learn something about gingers from Marshawn. I didn't know that.
- [98:17]
Connor Stallion
Sweet.
- [98:17]
Pat McAfee
I, I got, I got a couple gingers in the fam. I guess they got green light from what I've been told. I'm excited for them to try that going forward. Shout out to Marshawn lynch and then obviously Joe Milton can throw to core miles. We'll see if he does that. Dylan Gabriel getting some time because Shador Sanders hers oblique. He'll be out. So that week one awesome play out of Shador will carry into at least Week 3 of the preseason as he sits out in this oblique. Great play, by the way. Not saying we're happy he's hurt, but for the Shador Sanders conversation, let's see what Dylan Gabriel does.
- [98:49]
Connor Stallion
Oh yeah.
- [98:49]
Pat McAfee
And if he doesn't, which it's going to get a lot.
- [98:53]
Connor Stallion
We've seen dejuan Jones before and we've seen Dylan Gabriel.
- [98:58]
Tony Meola
You keep attacking this guy for his height.
- [99:01]
Connor Stallion
I'm not attacking him. I just still think it's crazy that what Shador did in the first preseason game and what Dylan Gabriel is that one of them was picked in the fifth round. Was picked in the third round.
- [99:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's still pretty crazy to all of us. Remember, Dylan Gabriel though, is absolute dog in college ball and can spin. He has a little Kellen Mory thought whenever I see him, not just because he's lefty, but the style of play. Maybe the timing of a Stefanski offense will be great for Dylan Gilbert and he's been having to deal with finding throwing lanes his whole life. Now it's a little different with, you know, the Giants of the NFL, but we shall see how they go. It's going to get loud for Dylan. Whatever happens here, I hope he does very well. I heard Joe Flacco too was spinning. Nobody wants to talk about it. I heard Flacco still out there doing what Joe Flacco.
- [99:44]
Tony Meola
I'm going to make a a guess here. Joe Flacco is going to start week one.
- [99:48]
Pat McAfee
Okay. And then week what is another quarterback.
- [99:52]
Tony Meola
Playing next next season?
- [99:54]
Pat McAfee
Joe Flacco is running the gamut. He's back with Stefanski. The last time he played with Stefanski he came from the couch to the playoffs with the Cleveland Brown.
- [100:01]
Tony Meola
If Joe stays healthy, he's going to be starting.
- [100:03]
Ty Schmidt
It's going to be tough to bench FLACCO when they're 100 after, you know, 10 weeks.
- [100:06]
Pat McAfee
Weeks. Which is definitely possible. Joe flag. Everybody will laugh about that.
- [100:09]
Connor Stallion
Oh, that's Jerry Judy's gonna have 1500 yards in 10.
- [100:12]
Pat McAfee
You see Jerry Judy shouting out today.
- [100:14]
Connor Stallion
Oh, yeah.
- [100:15]
Pat McAfee
Oh, Jerry Judy's mid season four mage. I know you like to see that. I love him.
- [100:19]
AJ Hawk
I want. I, I am curious to see what Dylan Gabriel does. We watch him in person. That dude can play. We know that you're right. If he comes out there and lights it up, it's going to be. It's gonna be some fun talking points up in Cleveland.
- [100:29]
Pat McAfee
Didn't play great against Ohio State. Jackson dart. And you just wanted to bring that game up that's you doing play great at all. Yeah. In that particular game. But he is on that game.
- [100:38]
AJ Hawk
I mean first time he did. First time he played him, he did.
- [100:41]
Connor Stallion
True, true.
- [100:41]
Pat McAfee
Jackson darts playing. They say he's a guy for the future. They say Russell Wilson once again probably started there. Jackson dart. When does that happen? When's the New York Giants bye week? Bruce, when's your guys's bye week for the New York Giants?
- [100:54]
Riley Green
He's looking.
- [100:55]
Connor Stallion
Oh, I'd assume.
- [100:57]
Pat McAfee
Doesn't know. Wow.
- [100:59]
Clark Hunt
Week 14.
- [100:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That's very late.
- [101:01]
Connor Stallion
That's crazy.
- [101:02]
Pat McAfee
That's very late. That would, that would have seemingly been the, the transition time if you had a week 14 is way too late. We'll see how that goes. And then you got Rattler and shuck playing ball a little bit. AJ out of all that, I think Caleb Williams is obviously all eyes on that whole Ben Johnson situation and can't wait to see what happens in Indianapolis. I didn't like the swag who laughed in my face whenever I said crazy. That was crazy.
- [101:24]
Connor Stallion
I was messed up.
- [101:25]
Pat McAfee
He was hitting his head like he.
- [101:27]
Ty Schmidt
Was literally the funniest thing he's ever heard.
- [101:28]
Connor Stallion
Crying a lot.
- [101:29]
Pat McAfee
I still think there's a chance somebody was underneath his feet.
- [101:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [101:32]
Pat McAfee
Tickling.
- [101:33]
Connor Stallion
I can see that. Maybe his son.
- [101:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I don't think his son. I think his son's probably in the gym or something. Maybe he had like a little robot down there just like, hey, tickle my feet.
- [101:43]
Tony Meola
Tickle me robot.
- [101:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he had a huge one. So let's not talk about the Anthony Richard and Danny Dime situation which will obviously be must watch. But Caleb Williams operating Ben Johnson's offense is all anybody's going to talk about. So we are actually going to judge him in the huddle when he's getting a snap off on the play of games, all that.
- [101:59]
AJ Hawk
Don't you Want to see like, hey, when do they break the huddle with three seconds on the clock? Like how just the full operation is what I want to see. Like that's what. I'm sure the coaches want to see that too. Hey, let's look professional tonight. Let's look like we know we're doing.
- [102:10]
Pat McAfee
I do wonder if they didn't have enough faith last week in it and they're like, we're not putting anybody out there who cares. It's first week of preseason because the conversation was if the offensive line's not in, why are they going to have Caleb in? It's like, well, maybe the reason why he chose not to have the offensive line is because maybe we don't, we're not all on the same page. Maybe now is not the time. And they got to learn a brand new offense that has a lot in it. I mean we've seen the Detroit Lions over the years. There's a lot of shit in that offense. I assume there's a foundation, I assume there's like basics of it and then there's only like 10 million different things that can come off of it. In learning all of those different things, you know, if you're the tight end you got to learn all the tight end shit. If you're X, you gotta learn. If you are these positions, you only got to learn your. Caleb has to learn everybody's multitude of things that they could do. So maybe it's just taking a little bit. I would not blame him if that was the case, especially from what we've heard of Ben Johnson's offense and hopefully he'll be able to light it up in that particular offense that has had a lot of success over the last four years in Detroit.
- [103:07]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I mean obviously he's not thinking about this, but Caleb's one of those guys where no matter what he does, there will be no middle ground in terms of, of the way it's discussed following the game. If he plays really well, people are going to be like, see this is what we were talking about. Ben Johnson. Like this guy could be one of the five best quarterbacks in the NFL. If he doesn't play well, it's going to be, hey, this guy sucks. Like, you know, like there, I don't think there's going to be any like, oh, he, he played pretty well. He played okay. Like I, I don't think we're going to get any of that.
- [103:33]
Pat McAfee
Be a little bit worried in the NFC north because I heard that the Colts impacters joint practices have you heard?
- [103:42]
Ty Schmidt
I heard that the packers defense was pretty dominating. And I'm not worried about the Colts D. Because Jordan loved in practice. So, you know, it's kind of a win. Win for me.
- [103:49]
Pat McAfee
No, we're playing low scoring football. Yeah, we're not worried about that.
- [103:53]
Ty Schmidt
I did. I did read that defense is dominated the day, but that's a. That was actually a very good kind of reminder for me yesterday. I was like, you look at the Colts beat reporters and Colts having the best. Best goddamn day they've had so far. Packers guys are saying the same, same thing. So it's exactly okay, like, what do we do? Like, this doesn't matter.
- [104:11]
Pat McAfee
I read a tweet. Colts are awesome. Boom. Then I scrolled a little bit. Packers have dominated the Colts.
- [104:16]
Pete Thamel
Yeah.
- [104:17]
Pat McAfee
I'm like, all right, well, let's mute this account. I don't need to hear that. Let's go ahead and move on. That's preseason, baby. That's training camp. That's these joint practices. There's a lot of joint practices that are. Obviously have been happening and are leading up to this particular weekend. And there's also a cancel. I believe the Ravens and Commanders have canceled their joint practice due to a schedule and how the team feels. They said we'll just get ready for the big game. What's that? Why are you.
- [104:43]
Connor Stallion
I don't know if we have it. I'm assuming we don't. I'm not sure if Randy Orton has the capability to kind of hop on the football fields and put pads on, but someone basically got RKO'd yesterday. I don't know if you saw it. I don't think you did. There's a massive scrum between where the Ravens and the Commanders at their joint practice. Exactly. One guy, one of the guys that the scrum started with, it's. It's almost over. You know, it's like just offense and defense. Both teams didn't run on. Someone from the Ravens ran over and grabbed this guy by, like the back of his shoulder pads and slammed him down.
- [105:21]
Pat McAfee
Where? Like a bulldog? No, no.
- [105:23]
Connor Stallion
Like he was looking this way. Guy comes from this way. This dude doesn't see him. Grabs the back of his jersey and.
- [105:31]
Pat McAfee
Yanks him down to his back or to his face.
- [105:33]
AJ Hawk
To his back.
- [105:34]
Pat McAfee
Oh, so it's like. Like a break. Like, exactly. Just.
- [105:37]
Connor Stallion
Just like, was awesome. I don't know if you can find it.
- [105:41]
Pat McAfee
Sounds like.
- [105:42]
Connor Stallion
Yeah, something.
- [105:42]
Pat McAfee
A back bump.
- [105:43]
Connor Stallion
Someone. Yeah, it was a back bump by Zeno.
- [105:45]
Pat McAfee
Said he found one from two years ago.
- [105:46]
Tony Meola
Oh, nice.
- [105:47]
Connor Stallion
Let Me see it.
- [105:48]
Pat McAfee
Oh, what is this?
- [105:51]
Connor Stallion
Two years ago? It was a quote tweet. No, the tweet I saw was a quote tweet from. It was. It was a quote tweet from something. Yeah, because that's Emmanuel Forbes right there.
- [106:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but we didn't know if this was. We don't know if this ends with you. The back bump you're talking about.
- [106:07]
Connor Stallion
Oh, there it is. Okay.
- [106:10]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [106:11]
Connor Stallion
There you go.
- [106:12]
Pat McAfee
So they have canceled their joint practices. They were never having any this year. They decided because of a delay of a game happening one day later for the commanders, I believe the Ravens put out a statement saying, we're trying to make sure we meet each other.
- [106:25]
Connor Stallion
Someone quote you with that video? That's why.
- [106:27]
Pat McAfee
That's what happened two years ago.
- [106:28]
Connor Stallion
We know why.
- [106:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the Internet's filled with that. And by the way, that is out there.
- [106:31]
Connor Stallion
Good.
- [106:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's out there. At any moment that that potential situation getting got for sure. But also joint practices. I heard Max Crosby talking on his podcast. He said, I have 100% fight rate at joint practice. 100%. They're practicing with the Niners. I believe Raiders and Niners are joint practicing. And he was just openly talking about like, yeah, because I know how this is going to go and it's just like a guarantee that there's a fight. We've talked about this numerous times. I don't know how you don't. I don't know how they. If your teams don't fight, it's almost a bad thing at this point.
- [107:02]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, almost every play. If they don't, it's like you guys are your brother in law and each other and you're going too easy. Because there's always. Especially think about all the drills you do. One on one pass rush, tackles and ends and outside rushes. You also sometimes do one on one pass rush with like inside backers and running backs. That always gets heated and then let alone you're going. You're going 11 on 11. Usually to finish those practices, guys are getting up, dancing in dudes faces. Yeah, you're going to. We're going to fight.
- [107:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And speaking of brother in law and each other, Jeff Schwartz actually found a clip of the Browns and Eagles. Lane Johnson, Miles Garrett. This is like a perfect rep. Both of them were won. Both of them won. Neither got embarrassed. Nobody got hurt. Let's move on. All right, take the helmet off. We did our rep. Now let everybody else do it. That's legit. AJ between those two right there.
- [107:46]
AJ Hawk
Absolutely. I saw when I Saw this happen. Like, that's so perfect. I read the tweet and then I watched the Quit Mike. Oh, yeah, he. He explained that exactly how I. How I would think. But it's true. Like, two unbelievable professionals going to the hall of Fame taking a rep at the end of training camp.
- [108:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And they also. I don't think anything needed to be said either. They both understood what was going on. Yeah. There was no, hey, we're doing this. We're doing this. Miles wanted to work on a get off, I assume, which he did. Lane probably wanted to work on a get off as well. You want to work a move or two? Sweet. I'll go ahead and brush it down a little bit. We both win. There's a moment where Miles could have got a sack. Lane can say, I got a thing. Helmets off, boys. Twos and threes. Good luck the rest of the day. That is. I mean, that is a perfectly executed hall of Fame practice rep. One on one. And then I saw.
- [108:31]
Tony Meola
I believe, Believe. The day after his surgery, Landon Dickerson walked out on the practice field with a bunch of. A bunch of beers for the bunch of lights.
- [108:37]
Pat McAfee
There was like 10 of them.
- [108:38]
Tony Meola
Cleveland Browns online just, hey, boys, good.
- [108:40]
Ty Schmidt
Practice out there today.
- [108:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I love if Landon's bringing out beers. Okay. He feels pretty good about where his knees are. Yeah.
- [108:46]
Connor Stallion
Yes.
- [108:46]
Pat McAfee
You know, he's feeling pretty good about where he's at. Good for him. Good for the Eagles. And I love that this still exists in 2025. AJ It's a beautiful thing.
- [108:54]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. We don't see it too much. It's a. It's a lost art thing of the past. I think the beers in the locker room or on the field, like, it doesn't happen a whole lot. But we're getting back to it. We're going back to some of those old school football things. Like when we turned on. You know, when you see the guys in the 70s smoking cigs and stuff, I don't. I don't think it'll quite get there, but you never know.
- [109:10]
Pat McAfee
In the kingdom you're talking about, there's a lot of those types of highlights from back in the day age. I'm telling you, two hours of is out right now. I wasn't able to watch the entirety of it because, you know, that's a lot of time in one night. It was literally released yesterday. Last night. I can't wait to watch it. I, like, literally cannot wait to dive into. If you're, like an NFL fan, I think this is a doc. Not Just obviously Trav and Patrick, right? Chris Jones. Yeah. Who's always so jovial, but he's given some real speeches in there. Chris Jones giving some real speeches in there. So is Patrick. So Travis, it's like a completely different light than what you see him. It's like, oh, yeah, these guys are still animals. We forgot. We forgot that these dudes are still absolute beasts. These dudes are competitive freaks. And whenever they're talking to the team, it's vastly different than whenever talking to media or they're having a couple curious lights out on a golf course like it is. You get to see the reason why they are who they are. I think it's very well done here early now. Can it get ruined? Sure.
- [110:06]
Connor Stallion
Absolutely.
- [110:07]
Pat McAfee
Sure. Certainly can. But I think they had a hot start.
- [110:08]
Connor Stallion
From what I saw, like the first episode, you really learned Brett Feach is one of the smartest guys in the entire NFL when it comes to just evaluating players. And then the second episode Mr. Hunt kind of mentioned is all Andy Reid. It's like Andy Reid's entire story. It's really cool. Bless you, Tony.
- [110:24]
Pat McAfee
We have huge news out of the college football world. Oh, no. Hawaii. Yeah. Yeah. Has approved plans for a new stadium. Yeah. Have you heard about this? Front Office Sports has reported Hawaii has approved plans to build a new Aloha Stadium. The state will will contribute 400 million for the new 22,500 seat home of the Rainbow warriors football set to be completed in 2029. Every year I'm hoping they get really good and there's a game day.
- [110:54]
Connor Stallion
Oh, sure.
- [110:56]
Pat McAfee
Every year there's a chance. I'm like, come on now, let's go. I've been out there, obviously, a lot. I've been in Hawaii a lot. I run into a lot of Hawaii fans out there. I think I know a couple of the assistant coaches. I think I've run into them at different places out there. That place is my favorite island. And if we could just so happen, you know, to accidentally have to do a couple days out there of this show leading up to potential Saturday show out there, it's like, it's okay. That'd be okay. So I'm happy to get a new stadium. I don't know how they'll ever be successful. You know, like, I know they were. That traveling is insane. And if they're ever, ever able to get good, I'll be happy and pumped for the entire island. But I'm pulling for him.
- [111:38]
Ty Schmidt
I mean, we'll see. You would think. And again, it's it's so far out there and a lot of kids probably don't want to go out there and be that far away from their families. But like, they could be like the transfer portal capital of the United. Like you play decent or whatever and you're in some cold weather, bad area, not really playing in like the Big ten or something. It's like, you know what? I'm gonna go to Hawaii and let's turn this thing around. I'm gonna enjoy my last two years I college. Gonna be playing in a beautiful stadium, it looks like.
- [112:03]
Pat McAfee
I think they need a mainland base, so I think they need to do all their home games straight and then all their away games. Yeah, straight. Because it's just like. That's at least six hours. At least six hours everywhere. That's Europe from, you know, eastern part. That is a long flight. So if they were able to figure out the. They should treat themselves as a European NFL team.
- [112:25]
Connor Stallion
Yeah, the NFL.
- [112:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. They should have a base and they should have class options there. You know, like, hey, we'll stay on. We got a little campus here. I don't know how you figured that all out, but I think that's the only way to do it because of how much the travel is, plus school, plus football. It's a lot of things going on.
- [112:40]
Connor Stallion
But I'm pulling for the NFL should try it. The NFL should legitimately sponsor that type of idea just to test to see if it would work for the London teams that we've talked about.
- [112:50]
Pat McAfee
I like that.
- [112:50]
Connor Stallion
Yeah. Because then.
- [112:51]
Pat McAfee
Then you know why to have a home game, though, if we're going to go out there, we don't need it to be one of their.
- [112:56]
Tony Meola
Unfortunately, they can't do it because of school and stuff like that.
- [112:59]
Pat McAfee
No, but they. Everything's online campus.
- [113:03]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [113:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You just set up a little couple.
- [113:04]
AJ Hawk
I don't think you have to go to class anyway. I think mo like you can choose to take pretty much everything online.
- [113:08]
Tony Meola
Oh, I'm sorry.
- [113:09]
Pat McAfee
A.J. west Virginia.
- [113:10]
Tony Meola
I just want to let you know, student athletes.
- [113:12]
Pat McAfee
You're student human athlete. Okay.
- [113:14]
AJ Hawk
I. I hope they do. You know, I feel like kids don't get the full college experience if you don't have to actually go on campus a couple times a week.
- [113:21]
Pat McAfee
School. I should have tried that when I was in school.
- [113:24]
Connor Stallion
But you went on for fun.
- [113:25]
Ty Schmidt
You.
- [113:26]
Connor Stallion
You went on to campus for fun.
- [113:28]
Pat McAfee
I should have tried class.
- [113:29]
Ty Schmidt
You went to a couple classes.
- [113:30]
Pat McAfee
I did. I enjoyed some classes.
- [113:32]
AJ Hawk
Rich Rod didn't check your classes. I thought for sure Rich Rod would Check.
- [113:34]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah, he did. Yeah, they did. They all did. Yeah. Yeah. And then we had to negotiate. You know, everything's a negotiation. Everything is a negotiation. You know, I can't do it. I don't know what you want me. I'm not a good morning person. Also, this thing, easiest class of all time. There's no reason I should be sitting in this.
- [113:50]
AJ Hawk
Keep making. Just keep making them kicks and we'll figure it out.
- [113:52]
Pat McAfee
I will be eligible. I made All Big east the first. So when I negotiated the thing, I made the all Big east academic team that semester. So I feel like it, you know.
- [114:01]
Connor Stallion
Kind of stamp of approval.
- [114:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So then I got myself a little bit of leeway there. So then I did not ever make that team again. Sure. You know, but I did get a little leeway. Sure. Never missed the test. You know, I had certain sociology. Love Nancy Feather. Love that lady, Professor Pat. Loved you too, dude. I mean, there was psychic class. Yeah. There was a couple in there that I really enjoyed. Everything else, though, I'm not coming here to be a doctor of Lord, bro. Do we really need to know? Silent film class. That was great. Oh, really enjoyed the Artist. Yeah. It was the train. The Train Robbery. Yep. That's like one of the original ones. That's a first class. First class. Because I realized after that, first class is probably. It's probably aloha hello and goodbye. Sure. For that particular class. And it was fun though. Yeah. I. I should have experienced the education part of school more though. I look back and think about that. But these kids today, they don't even have to. I mean, you just open your computer.
- [114:55]
AJ Hawk
I hope they get to hang out. I hope they get to hang out and go to a bar every once in a while.
- [114:58]
Pat McAfee
That's all I hope. Yeah.
- [114:59]
AJ Hawk
Give them a chance.
- [115:00]
Pat McAfee
Have a beer with the lads. They are. They are. It's coming back. Yeah. Speaking of coming back, I'll see you guys in a while. The boys then will be back with surprise guest host. Whoa. Yeah. You guys will see it on Monday. Where do I be? I don't know. Huh? Maybe we'll do a little guessing game like that. Where is the. It's far. Yes. I love you all. Goodbye. I will be back, obviously in time for season. But there will be an extended amount of time where I will be in places unknown.
- [115:35]
Tony Meola
Where in the world is Patrick McAfee?
- [115:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's a good question. Is it in the world? Have you thought about that? Have you thought about that?
- [115:42]
Ty Schmidt
He's going to the space station.
- [115:44]
AJ Hawk
What do you mean that's the world.
- [115:45]
Pat McAfee
Iss There's a lot going on. This is an incredibly cool opportunity and I'm very thankful for it and lucky for it. Don't know if I'm prepared enough for it, but I've tried my best.
- [115:54]
Connor Stallion
You're an ayahuasca.
- [115:56]
Pat McAfee
Maybe now. Now's the time. Yeah.
- [115:57]
Ty Schmidt
Are you going overseas to get a.
- [115:58]
Pat McAfee
Bunch of elective surgeries? Maybe head to Turkey? Get some new hair. Hashtag mate. That might be. That might be where I. That might be where.
- [116:08]
Connor Stallion
Go to Egypt.
- [116:10]
Pat McAfee
Might go see the pyramids, you know. Yeah, I think it was. Was it Despicable Me where they give away that the pyramids are just inflatable?
- [116:19]
Tony Meola
Yes.
- [116:20]
Pat McAfee
First scene.
- [116:20]
Tony Meola
Yeah, because he stole it.
- [116:23]
Pat McAfee
What's that? Yeah, he stole it and left the.
- [116:25]
Tony Meola
Written inflatable and that fat ass fell.
- [116:27]
Connor Stallion
On it and grew. Man.
- [116:28]
Pat McAfee
That kid though. The kid.
- [116:29]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [116:30]
Pat McAfee
He had a harness on. He broke the harness. Yeah.
- [116:32]
Tony Meola
He was a real piece. His parents were.
- [116:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But he had a relentless. I mean we should really think about that kid's mentality whenever we. I'm sure you don't know what we're talking about right now because your kids are a little bit old.
- [116:42]
AJ Hawk
Me, I've seen it. I've seen them all. But I. I take it to the theater. I fall asleep usually. So I don't really follow the storyline much.
- [116:49]
Pat McAfee
All right. All right, kids. What do you want?
- [116:53]
AJ Hawk
No, you know, it's great. Whatever, the new. Whatever the newest one. Hey, let's do it guys.
- [116:57]
Connor Stallion
Let's go.
- [116:57]
AJ Hawk
But you know, the seats lay all the way back. I'm going to take a 45 minute nap at some point in that movie.
- [117:02]
Pat McAfee
I'll say Despicable Me does keep you. Cuz the music is great.
- [117:05]
Connor Stallion
Yeah, the Minions too.
- [117:06]
Pat McAfee
The Minions are incredible. Yeah. For real, right? Despicable Me is good. What else? Yeah, Hotel Transylvania.
- [117:12]
Connor Stallion
Yeah, that's good.
- [117:13]
Pat McAfee
Has got us through for a while. Lot of animation.
- [117:16]
Tony Meola
You seen Sing yet? Because I know you're a Netflix guy.
- [117:18]
Pat McAfee
Love Singh, Greatest showman. Hey, what do you mean? I was watching Sing while we were putting together big night out and he's trying to put together a show. Mr. Moon. That's what he's trying to do. Yeah, it was. That was a really cool thing for MacKenzie. Could never understand what was going on. But like, hey, your. Your dad is literally doing what is in this movie right now. Just with, you know, sumo wrestlers as opposed to just singers in there. So there's. It's been a good time.
- [117:43]
Connor Stallion
Have you guys Dove into Pixar yet.
- [117:46]
Pat McAfee
We did Toy Story. She was a big fan.
- [117:47]
Connor Stallion
That's right.
- [117:48]
Pat McAfee
She loved Toy Story.
- [117:49]
Connor Stallion
Nemo.
- [117:50]
Pat McAfee
You haven't gone in Nemo.
- [117:51]
Connor Stallion
Haven't done.
- [117:51]
Pat McAfee
That'll be a big.
- [117:52]
Ty Schmidt
Nemo's an A1.
- [117:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That feels like. That is very.
- [117:55]
Ty Schmidt
It is stimulating.
- [117:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Monsters Inc. We have Journey 2.
- [118:00]
AJ Hawk
That's big.
- [118:00]
Pat McAfee
Who? Journey 2.
- [118:02]
Connor Stallion
Descender of the earth. The bird one with Brendan.
- [118:03]
Pat McAfee
Fridge with Mysterious Island. You're talking about the rock. Oh, yeah, sure. It was made in 2012. That popped up on Netflix. Thought it was a new movie. I'm like the rocks in a new fucking kids movie. This is Uncle Final Boss here. And then I turned it on, you know, and it was clearly 2012. Clearly. I mean, it was. There was really nothing that mackenzie was looking for in that. Sure. You know, it was. Sure. We're gonna have to wait a few years. Story was good. The.
- [118:31]
Connor Stallion
Oh, yeah.
- [118:31]
Pat McAfee
They were going on a hunt to find something. Mysterious island. Obviously he's stepdad. Step boy does not like him until they kind of fall in love with the same thing.
- [118:39]
AJ Hawk
I never heard this movie popped up on Netflix.
- [118:41]
Pat McAfee
There's the number two show on kids. Netflix yesterday. And I'm like, holy shit, the rocks got a number two show on Netflix. How come we never talk about Moana? We talk about. We don't talk about this. No, they just. I guess Netflix just got this. And I'll tell you what, that feels like a platform that if you get on there. Yeah. Right to the top. Yeah. People are just looking for on Netflix.
- [119:02]
AJ Hawk
Showing her Tommy Boy yet.
- [119:03]
Pat McAfee
She's not seen Tommy Boy yet. We. She does know Adam Sandler that very well. So she should have me boy.
- [119:09]
AJ Hawk
I think. I think Tommy Boy, Chris Farley. Any era, any generation.
- [119:13]
Pat McAfee
He.
- [119:13]
AJ Hawk
He works. Which makes me very happy.
- [119:15]
Pat McAfee
I. I have. She has seen Letterman. His entrance on Letterman. Okay. So she does know of Chris Farley, which she certainly will. As she continues to grow older. She will understand the greats before she was around and all. She's got a lot of rhythm. I don't know if that's all. Like, that's my thing. Never really wanted to be around kids, you know, like, ever. And I remember I had that book on how to be a dad. It was gonna teach me about a bunch of kids. But she came two weeks early. And I was gonna read that, you know, like maybe a week out.
- [119:46]
Connor Stallion
So keep fresh.
- [119:47]
Pat McAfee
Fresh. So I never got the. So I don't know really anything about the development and where and all that. And I'll keep the updates. And she passed the speech thing. Okay, that's great news. She's doing this. Yeah. We're hitting all the milestones, I think, whatever it is. But, like, she can really keep a beat. Like, she is actually rhythmic and loves music. I assume that's every kid, because I kind of see the way it goes, but she will go right into the middle of a group and start dancing and everything like that.
- [120:14]
AJ Hawk
That's great.
- [120:15]
Pat McAfee
Might have a little. You know, she's a child star, but she ain't gonna be a child star. Sure, sure. She's gonna be a star, but she's gonna play sports first and then be a child first. Exactly. She's gonna have a good time. A lot of temptation out there these days. All those decisions. Marcus Spears was talking about his kid, both his kids. All these people. Just so many ideas at this moment. Think about all the ideas we get pitched. Just some of them completely ass. Somebody wants to do 1,000 things for very limited amount of money. And I'm 38 years old at this point of career and have seen all of these contracts for a long time now, and it's like somebody tried to get me with a fucking terrible contract, and it's like, couldn't even imagine what they're doing to 15, 16 year olds at this point. That's scary, AJ. All of that's very scary.
- [120:59]
AJ Hawk
That's. I mean, taking advantage of kids and their parents and their family who's trying to help them. They're all trying to navigate it and figure it out in real time.
- [121:06]
Connor Stallion
So.
- [121:06]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I don't. I don't get it. I don't know. The good thing is, like, if you're good, they'll find you. You'll figure it out.
- [121:11]
Pat McAfee
Look at this. This is cool, right? Your family's never had this. Don't worry about.
- [121:15]
AJ Hawk
We own you and everyone that's coming after you.
- [121:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's what we're expecting out of you, though. Don't worry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We also need you to bum. Just read through that.
- [121:27]
Connor Stallion
Excuse me.
- [121:31]
Pat McAfee
Has anybody ever agreed to something like this? Just need to know. Call a couple of people. Hey, have you guys agreed to these types? Why? Why are these deals allowed to exist? What. What is this? What has happened here? We would obviously never suggest that somebody should call to another agency. Are you guys agreeing to these fucking deals? Why do these people think that this is okay? This cannot be something that people think is okay. We would obviously never. Okay. All right. So.
- [121:53]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [121:53]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So I don't know who's allowing these to be a thing. But we need to stop that. We need to make sure we understand. But also, if you want to grind away and make a little bit of money, I guess those opportunities are out there. I couldn't imagine as a teenager having to deal with all that. Yeah, good luck, mackenzie. I'm pulling for you.
- [122:10]
AJ Hawk
You imagine. What if you're a teenager? What if you're a teenage kid and you have a staff of like. You know how these guys have managers and bodywork people? No, but I'm saying, what if you have all these people in high school and you don't even get one offer? You don't have an opportunity to play in college? That probably happens.
- [122:25]
Connor Stallion
Oh, yeah, that happens.
- [122:26]
Pat McAfee
You think all the money's wasted on that and then they're in debt now forever.
- [122:30]
Connor Stallion
I don't know if they use the entire team for the entire four years, but I'm assuming there are definitely kids who, after their second or third year of high school are like, okay, clearly you're not going to.
- [122:42]
Pat McAfee
Is Jake firing these people? Who's firing them?
- [122:45]
Connor Stallion
I. Yeah. Is it.
- [122:46]
Pat McAfee
What if they're not good?
- [122:48]
Connor Stallion
Is it a till college type deal? Or it's like, hey, we'll take care of you. And then once you wonder, by the.
- [122:53]
Pat McAfee
Way, it is work for J. Crew. We're not saying that that's something that's wrong.
- [122:56]
AJ Hawk
I know it's good for these guys that are really good players.
- [122:58]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [122:59]
AJ Hawk
But I'm saying all of them aren't going to be superstars and all these.
- [123:01]
Pat McAfee
Coaches aren't going to be good coaches. Like the. I think Jake Cruel had three sacks on three consecutive plays in one of the series last night for img. I think he had four or five sacks. I forget what it was to start the season. That's game one. Let alone what he's about to do going forward. That's insane. Numbers. That's like basketball numbers. How much he averaged? He averaged like a five and five. What was it? Five sacks, five swats. What was that? One get one game? Yeah, that's just. Some of these dudes are outrageous, but I assume some of these coaches are ass. And it's like, can a high school player just fire them? I don't know who those deals go.
- [123:34]
Ty Schmidt
I mean, I would assume so. I also wonder how much of that stuff is IMG adjacent. Like, he probably maybe had a couple. But I wonder if once you go to img, obviously, like, they're. They're preparing kids to go play college football and college sports. So I wonder how much of that is like once he gets there. Hey, we have this guy you can work with. We have this guy you can work with. We have this guy you can work with. Like, I don't know, what about.
- [123:54]
Pat McAfee
The other guy is always there.
- [123:57]
Ty Schmidt
The other guy is always there.
- [123:59]
Pat McAfee
Jeff Gardiner. J Mark G. 1962. Feels like quick math. He is 63 years of age, he says. IMG Five Star Edge J. Crewell, Oklahoma commit, talks about his first. His multiple sack effort. Just say how many sacks so we could all know. Jeff, next time, please. Including three straight in one drive. So.
- [124:17]
Ty Schmidt
So he had like 10 sacks.
- [124:18]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. Yeah. That could be anywhere from I. Literally four or five. It could. If he got three and three straight plays. I assume the rest of the series were pretty easy for him as well. Jay Cruel currently has 14 sacks.
- [124:30]
Connor Stallion
Leads the concert through one.
- [124:32]
Pat McAfee
And it would make sense after watching his film. How about the show of the hands dip thing that he did? Just like so smooth. Right to the your mind. Thank you. He's going to just be toying with people out there. Is this from last night? Oh, you can't be scrambling with Jake Crow on your side.
- [124:48]
AJ Hawk
His pass rush, his pass up press rush clips always pop up. My algorithm, you heard me. I stumbled through it.
- [124:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It's easy for us all to say. I've had a few of those this week. Don't love it. Hopefully that'll go away on this man. His motor.
- [125:00]
AJ Hawk
I love his motor to go with his skill set, too. Like, the dude is relentless.
- [125:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And his. He does the eye black around the eyes. So I think that's kind of his thing. Like, it looked as if. Yeah. In the video. He does the eye black around the eyes. Love a little moxie. Do what you got to do. Starts going with different colored contacts. Let's start talking. What was the guy, the white Bosch there.
- [125:19]
AJ Hawk
He is the best.
- [125:21]
Pat McAfee
Never forget walking out to the captain's thing.
- [125:23]
AJ Hawk
Scariest human ever to be on a football field.
- [125:25]
Pat McAfee
Maybe. I literally just stared the entire time. We want to kick that way. It's a dome. It doesn't really matter. Is that every game? Of course. We're not talking. Yeah. Guy's got red contacts in. All right. Robert, Fucking call it right. Yep. This dude's got red context. So then handshake after boom, bang. Right to him. That's awesome. All right, I'll see you. No games, no nonsense.
- [125:58]
Connor Stallion
He didn't give you like a nothing.
- [126:00]
Pat McAfee
He didn't. I don't even know if he noticed. I Was there. I still don't know if he knew that I was there. I honestly have no idea. But I was certainly intrigued by it all. There was another one with Adrian Peterson. I mean, those captains, coin tosses. I used to really take in the entire experience. Really used to explore the space. Whenever I go out there, Adrian Peterson got him in a handshake, was prepared for that moment. He was not. He did not know what was coming. I did. We go ahead and fucking sneak in there. Boom. Gotcha. Boom. Bo. That was a gift from either ESPN or the Kansas City Chiefs. That little Locker Locker thing right there, there's an album inside of it, and this football was inside of it. So this thing.
- [126:50]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [126:50]
Connor Stallion
Incredible.
- [126:50]
Pat McAfee
It's like a baby Duke. Baby baby. Actual baby baby Duke here. This is real leather here.
- [126:56]
AJ Hawk
Looks like it.
- [126:57]
Pat McAfee
Lamar Hunt would love seeing these things sold.
- [126:59]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, man.
- [127:00]
Pat McAfee
How about talking about the draft scene? Hey, Lamar would love the draft. He was like, yeah, yeah. Yes, he was. Would have. That Lamar guy, dude, innovator, legit sports innovator.
- [127:11]
AJ Hawk
People don't know that. That's what I hope with this documentary. Hopefully it shows people that, hey, yeah, this guy. They don't. I guess he's not spoken, at least. I don't know. Is he nationwide as the guy that, like, did so much for the NFL?
- [127:21]
Pat McAfee
I will say, growing up in Pittsburgh, obviously you hear the Lamar Hunt trophy, like, you know that for the AFC championship, but it's never really followed up with, like, hey, the reason why, by the way.
- [127:33]
Connor Stallion
Yeah.
- [127:34]
Pat McAfee
But all of this. Basically, this guy without him. Because the commissioner talking at the time. Burt Rail.
- [127:40]
Connor Stallion
Oh, the NFL commissioner.
- [127:43]
Pat McAfee
What's his name?
- [127:43]
Riley Green
Burt Bell.
- [127:44]
Pat McAfee
Burt Bell. There it is. I was trying to see the name Rail. I didn't see the bottom there. Burt Bell. He was. We don't need expansion. Yeah. We've got enough talent. What are you talking about? They'll ruin the league, Kill the NFL. And then he was trying to. You know, it's like, you need guys like that in a lot, in women like that in a lot of different worlds to try to get to where you're headed. And it's like, I think football fans should be a little bit more thankful for Lamar Hunt than we, because, I mean, Pittsburgh town, football town, Ohio football place. Oh, yeah.
- [128:15]
Connor Stallion
New England football.
- [128:16]
Pat McAfee
Did you know? I didn't.
- [128:17]
Connor Stallion
No idea.
- [128:18]
Pat McAfee
None of us knew it.
- [128:18]
Connor Stallion
Not. Not a clue.
- [128:19]
Pat McAfee
And I think it all goes into. Oh, it's Chiefs.
- [128:22]
Connor Stallion
Yeah.
- [128:22]
Pat McAfee
Like, who cares? Especially for a large part of our childhood, they weren't that great. You know so it's like it's chief.
- [128:28]
Tony Meola
We had the Rooney so it didn't.
- [128:29]
Pat McAfee
Really exactly that's how football fans feel. It's like they better horse racing get enough money to buy. I don't think so. I don't want to hear it. It's like no. This guy actually just wrote out the entire fucking business plan of the NFL. Pretty good guy.
- [128:42]
Connor Stallion
That's what's insane is that like what he has done for football and because of like us and how connected we are to football. It's easier to like understand. It feels like. And granted I only read a couple things. It feels like he did just as much for tennis as he has done for the NFL. The the open era tennis which is what it is now he essentially created it is how is how they framed it at least on his page on Wikipedia that he was the creator of open air tennis.
- [129:11]
Pat McAfee
Happy American heroes getting you know kind of showcased a little bit especially for our sport and our game. All right AJ Maybe you're one of the surprise guest hosts live here in maybe possibly.
- [129:25]
Connor Stallion
That'd be cool.
- [129:25]
Pat McAfee
Who are the guest hosts going to be while I am out doing something that is a huge honor. I can't say stress this enough like non turn bounnable thing I think.
- [129:37]
Riley Green
Yeah for sure.
- [129:38]
Pat McAfee
Now. Is it time consuming? Sure.
- [129:41]
Ty Schmidt
Hey you know what? Anything worth two salts is gonna be a little time consuming.
- [129:45]
Connor Stallion
Amen.
- [129:46]
Tony Meola
Ain't that the truth.
- [129:47]
Pat McAfee
Amen. I love you all. I appreciate you all. Hold it down please. And when football season starts back up. We're off and running train rolls. We are. I might be a completely different person when I come back.
- [130:04]
Connor Stallion
You might be. There's a chance. Probably have to be prepared for that.
- [130:07]
Pat McAfee
Have to be prepared for that. I have. Have you?
- [130:11]
Tony Meola
I just thought about it.
- [130:13]
Pat McAfee
What you need to start thinking that.
- [130:14]
Connor Stallion
We'Re all going to be different people though when you get back. Just because. Probably be so much happier because football have started. No, but technically yeah. I guess not yet.
- [130:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [130:23]
Connor Stallion
Unless. Well as it has.
- [130:25]
Pat McAfee
Ah. Keep them guessing. Who knows.
- [130:28]
Tony Meola
Interesting.
- [130:29]
Pat McAfee
This is the stupidest life of all time. We thank you all so much. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. A lot of preseason football going on. Let's enjoy it all. Let's enjoy this life. I'll see you guys in a few. The boys in a surprise guest host. I think everybody's gonna really be happy. Is back on Monday then Tuesday, Wednesday rolling this thing together. We appreciate you AJ Team. Hey in the work in the back. Great work, boys. Graphic boys. Really good.
- [131:01]
Connor Stallion
Good work, boys.
- [131:03]
Pat McAfee
Talk guy. Really good mitt that a baby. Had a lot of special guests this week here. Yeah, a lot of very. Right?
- [131:13]
Connor Stallion
Oh, yeah, it's been great.
- [131:14]
Pat McAfee
I mean, this has been an insane week. This has been an insane week here at the Thunderdome. And then Riley Green coming in today being carry on top, an absolute dog. That was great. All right, team on me. Team on three. One, two, three.
- [131:27]
Connor Stallion
Cave.
- [131:28]
Pat McAfee
Goodbye.
- [131:29]
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