PMS 2.0 1398 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, College Football Recap Week 1, Adam Schefter, Josh Pate, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Summary

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 - Episode 1398 Summary

Episode Title: OVERREACTION MONDAY, College Football Recap Week 1, Adam Schefter, Josh Pate, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
Date: September 1, 2025
Host: Pat McAfee, with AJ Hawk, Darius Butler, The Toxic Table, Tone Digs
Guests: Adam Schefter (ESPN NFL Insider), Josh Pate (college football analyst)

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Overview

This electric "Overreaction Monday" episode kicks off college football's first full week and ushers in the NFL’s imminent return. Pat McAfee and the crew introduce the "First 15" segment: a whirlwind first 15 minutes hitting the top five biggest football storylines. The show dives deep into wild upsets, special teams heroics, high-profile debuts (including Bill Belichick at UNC), coaching legacies (Coach Corso’s last game), and notorious player performances. The conversation is peppered with infectious enthusiasm, inside jokes, and their signature blend of irreverence and insight.

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"First 15": Top 5 Headlines in Football

Segment: 03:20–21:13

1. Bill Belichick's College Debut at UNC

Timestamps: 05:00–07:19, 60:00–61:00

• Story: Bill Belichick debuts as North Carolina head coach facing TCU on Monday Night. UNC's program is in the national spotlight with celebrities (Michael Jordan, Julius Peppers, Mia Hamm, Eric Church) on the sideline.
  • Stat: “From 2001 to 2019… the Patriots were underdogs 53 times. New England went 32-21 with a .604 win percentage… the best in the NFL as an underdog over that span. UNC is a dog tonight." (Tone, 06:34)
• Outlook: Debate over whether Belichick can quickly turn UNC into winners amidst transfer chaos; tonight marks a “must-see” measuring stick debut.
• Prediction: “I got UNC winning straight up.” (Darius Butler, 07:19)

2. Special Teams Are Special-SPECIAL

Timestamps: 07:20–15:12

• Beamer Bowl’s Magic: South Carolina’s Vicari Swain returns a punt 80 yards, sealing an emotional win as Shane Beamer faces his dad’s old team (Virginia Tech).
• Kick Returns Gone Wild:
  • Arkansas punter Devin Bale pounces on a ricocheted squib — “He was actually looking to stiff arm... I think he was going to stiff arm a couple people.” (Pat, 11:21)
• Clutch Kicks:
  • Miami’s Carter Davis nails a 47-yarder in crunch time.
  • Iowa’s Drew Stephens and Iowa State’s Kyle Conrar smash 55+ yarders; Tulsa’s Angus Davies uncorks an 80-yard punt: “That’s the greatest thing I’ve seen!” (AJ, 14:39)
• Insight: “Special teams are going to be good because Beamer ball... If you’re getting kick and punt returns every game, you’re going to win those games.” (Pat, 09:15)

3. Who's Real? Who’s Fake? Early College Contenders

Timestamps: 15:13–19:04

• Ohio State & FSU: Defensive prowess by Ohio State; Thomas Castellanos’ transfer storyline at FSU.
• Miami & LSU: Both look “potentially for real” after statement wins. Miami’s new QB, Carson Beck, impresses. LSU’s Nussmeier shines over Clemson.
• Takeaway: “Maybe Pitt–West Virginia will be the real game this year. But we do know, there were some highlights.” (Pat, 17:53)

4. Arch Manning: Arch Madness or Arch Sadness?

Timestamps: 19:04–19:37, 45:15–53:53, 86:58–89:24

• Debut Woes: Arch Manning struggles in his first start vs. the ferocious Ohio State defense.
• Discourse: “I was part of the problem. I called him Neo, I called him The One... but what this Ohio State defense did to him... we have no idea what Arch and Texas are going to look like.” (Pat, 19:04)
• Breakdown: Defensive coordinator Matt Patricia confounds Arch with pro-level schemes. Dan Orlovsky and the crew debate how much blame belongs to Arch vs. scheme vs. support.

5. Coach Corso’s Perfect Farewell

Timestamps: 19:37–21:13, 64:33–69:48

• GameDay Tribute: College GameDay and Ohio State fans deliver an emotional sendoff for broadcasting legend Lee Corso.
  • “He was perfect with his picks... all the teams he coached or played for won throughout the weekend... like the proper send-off for the sports icon that is Coach Corso.” (Pat, 19:37)
• Touching Moments: “It was beautiful... he gets his flowers and then all his picks right. I love that.” (Pat, 66:21)

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Notable Discussion Points & Segments

First 15: Extended Reaction & Analysis

• The show’s opening segment sets a frenetic pace, blending humor, banter, and authentic expertise—“a blizzard of information and storylines throughout sports as we cover it in only a way that we can, which is the dumbest out of all parties.” (AJ Hawk, 00:00)

"Players You Probably Slept On" (21:16–29:10)

• Late Night Stars: Utah’s Devin Dampier and Cal’s Jaren Sagapolutele dazzle in late games that most of America missed.
• AJ’s Take: "This dude, Devin Dampier, he's a problem... unstoppable. It seems like you can't tackle him” (AJ, 21:57)
• Cal QBs: “He’s the guy. This guy’s the guy.” (Connor & AJ, 24:51)

NFL Headlines with Adam Schefter (29:10–44:52)

• Cowboys & Packers: Fresh contracts (Daron Bland), Micah Parsons’ back miraculously healed after $188M payday.
  • "It's amazing how much better your back feels when you get $188 million." (Schefter, 34:50)
• Steelers Drama: Cam Heyward’s contract impasse; Chris Boswell also seeking a raise.
  • “Pay Chris Boswell $60 million a year.” (Tone, 41:12, sarcasm intended)
• NFL Hot Seats: Schefter predicts 6–7 head coach openings by season’s end, but cautions, “We have to let the season play out.”

College Football Week 1 Overreactions

Various segments through episode, esp. 53:53–77:29, 87:15–99:27, 100:44–103:39

• Arch Manning vs. Matt Patricia/Ohio State D:

  • "Coaching is a huge part... but having very, very talented guys is another part of it. And they have a very talented defense... if you can get home with just sending four... that is a huge, huge weapon." (Chef D, 47:45)

• Alabama’s Crisis:

  • “Dan Orlovsky said he counted 21 loafs [on tape]... that's the biggest takeaway.” (AJ, 53:59)
  • “If this continues… Saban created a standard there.” (Chef D, 56:14)

• The Florida Triangle Returns:

  • "For me, being a South Florida kid, that was the glory days—UM being good, Florida State being good, and University of Florida being good." (Chef D, 76:08)
  • “If the wheel on that ship has started to turn a little bit, it's the biggest story in college football” (Josh Pate, 80:39)

• LSU vs. Clemson:

  • “Are we being bamboozled by Clemson again?” (Tone, 82:24)
  • Pate: “They just can't scale up... You're probably looking at a team that can do what they did last year... but I don’t know that they’re capable of anything more than that.” (Josh Pate, 82:43)

South Carolina & Lenore Sellers’ Emergence

Timestamps: 100:44–103:39

• “Why shouldn't I believe that Lenore Sellers is going to win the Heisman and why isn't South Carolina being talked about as one of these teams that’s going to compete for a national championship?” (Connor, 100:44)
• Pate: “They may have the best offensive AND defensive players in the SEC... You're looking at probably the Heisman Trophy winner this year.” (Josh Pate, 101:51)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On Special Teams:
  • “We are the far superior athletes... the punter, he ready to move." (AJ Hawk, 11:37)
• On Fan Overreactions:
  • “Season's over if the Steelers lose Week 1.” (Tone, 42:20)
• On Coach Corso:
  • "He is college football... the juice, the energy, the pageantry." (AJ, 69:50)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

| Timestamp | Segment / Topic | |-------------|--------------------------------------------| | 00:00–03:20 | Show intro, setting the “First 15” concept | | 03:20–21:13 | The "First 15" - top five football stories | | 21:13–29:10 | Late-night CFB stars, transfer QB spotlights | | 29:10–44:52 | NFL with Adam Schefter, contracts, injury news | | 45:15–53:53 | Arch Manning breakdown - what really happened? | | 53:53–77:29 | College football deep dives: Alabama, Miami, FSU, others | | 77:30–84:44 | Miami’s staying power, transfer portal, NIL talk | | 87:15–89:24 | Review of Arch Manning’s debut vs. Ohio State | | 100:44–103:39 | South Carolina’s rise & Lenore Sellers hype | | 104:59–108:23 | UNC/TCU and the mystery of Belichick’s UNC roster | | 115:00–124:31 | “Geez Louise” moments: Mascot fails, brawls, and more | | 124:30–end | Band/College GameDay logistics, closing banter |

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Episode Tone & Final Thoughts

As always, the show is an engaging mix of passionate fandom, NFL and college football knowledge, and playful, sometimes chaotic energy. The cast doesn’t shy away from calling out lazy play, celebrating special teams, or giving flowers to legends like Coach Corso. The new "First 15" segment raises the stakes for keeping things quick and punchy, while the interviews (Schefter, Pate) add credibility and depth. The entire episode feels like a rowdy Monday tailgate, full of strong takes, jokes, and genuine love for the game.

Closing sentiment: “Be a friend, tell a friend, something nice. Might change your life.” (Pat, 127:07)

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For Listeners Who Missed It

• If you want to know who's real or fake after Week 1, how Bill Belichick’s Tar Heel debut could rock college football, why special teams are absolutely crucial, who disappointed (or surprised) at QB, and if Alabama’s dynasty is in trouble, this is your essential, no-holds-barred recap show.
• Don’t miss the heartfelt Lee Corso tributes, the NFL contract drama, and a heap of stories “you won’t hear anywhere else.”

For more, catch the full episode or highlights on ESPN platforms and YouTube.

Transcript

[AJ Hawk]

Hello, beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this overreaction. Monday, September 1, 2025. This program begins now. Football. It's happening. Oh, it's happening on Thursday. Obviously the NFL kicks off, but we're already week zero and a week one full slate of weekend through college ball. And it has been electrifying from jump Nebraska, Cincinnati at Arrowhead. Electrifying came down to the final Dr. All the way through last night's games. And then tonight North Carolina finishes it off against TCU where we will be there live for the kickoff show and halftime show. Lucky to be down there as the Bill Belichick era starts. But there are storylines all over football already. Now, granted, the NFL storylines are a little bit, you know, there's a couple guys have been paid, we'll certainly celebrate that. But most of it's carryover from last week. And then as we get into Thursday and then Friday night's games and then Sunday's games, obviously more will develop. But the story of today is mostly college ball. We're going to debut something here called the first 15. It's about to hit you right in the mouth. I mean this is about to be something that's about to happen. I've been thinking about it here for like a year or so. You know, the first 15 minutes of these Monday shows, maybe even every day show, but first 15 on Monday for sure. We need to hit like the top five headlines in our eyes and in the NFL and in football. Obviously you script the first 15. So the first 15 minutes are about to be an absolute blizzard of information and storylines throughout sports as we cover it in only a way that we can, which is the dumbest out of all parties. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Ohio State was awesome this past weekend. Maybe it'll be a of the first 15. The talk to the tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, don't look now. Iowa might be a team. Granowski looked like he couldn't play quarterback there for a little bit, but then he settled in.

[Adam Schefter]

Thank you.

[Connor]

Thank you.

[AJ Hawk]

And Iowa did their thing. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys, AP Towns, sports gamblers. How'd we do this weekend? I saw a top five all lost.

[Ty Schmidt]

Not good.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, the sports books are up early in the college football season.

[Tone]

Texas, Bama, Notre Dame, Clemson and Indiana were your most bet on teams for this College Football Week 1 and none of them covered of them did what they were supposed to do.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Large percentages of people betting on those. And whenever the top five goes the way of the sports books, you can start to expect maybe a little update in the app, you know, maybe some new cars purchased for the people that are running the sportsbook. But know that the sports books already have a good lead on us, so we need to catch up. And we will do so as we learn more about all these teams. And do we know enough about anybody right now? I don't think so, but maybe, maybe we do. Maybe these eyes saw some things and made us believe that they're the real deal. 9 year NFL vet, looking incredibly cool. This appears to be a football costume. Appears to be one that we're looking for is here. How you doing, pal? Good to see you. You look amazing.

[Chef D]

Doing great. Glad to be back with the boys.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Football season. Great to have you. Hope your daughter did fantastic in her golf tournament and we will follow that all year. Oh, yeah. Plum Mustangs lost a heartbreaker. No football.

[Connor]

Tight. Close one.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, real close. Yeah, real close.

[Chef D]

How close is that?

[AJ Hawk]

Good. Okay. He'll bounce. Good.

[Connor]

Probably a good kick.

[AJ Hawk]

We got a lot of time. We got a lot of time. We'll. We'll do it for the break.

[Chef D]

Have you missed the kick?

[Connor]

Missed the kick. That's how.

[AJ Hawk]

All right, let's get to the top five headlines. Yeah, I think so. I was just reading through text. I wasn't there. You know, I was following along via.

[Connor]

Text message back week.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Let's see what these boys got.

[Chef D]

Long scene.

[AJ Hawk]

It is a long scene.

[Connor]

Let's see the grit.

[AJ Hawk]

It is long. It was home opener. Gotta win that one.

[Connor]

Home in front of the new Jumbotronics.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Electronics. Yeah.

[Chef D]

Well, I don't know if you know, but in Pennsylvania they're only allowed like one week of training camp, like one week off because it's like too high and stuff.

[AJ Hawk]

So, you know, it's other states as well. Just so we understand it's not just Pennsylvania leading the way and looking out for their players safety. Now, does it hinder the toughness of a team? Potentially. But the boys from Plum, always going to be tough and they're going to show their mental toughness after bouncing back for a Friday night loss. Got a long season ahead. Daktronics. Jumbotronics head thing looks spectacular. Not a lot of highlights. Show thing looks spectacular. I'm excited for that. I'm also excited for this. This will be the top five headlines in our eyes now, granted. Will our top five headlines match other people's top five Headlines maybe. But on this particular sports day, the five things that we think you need to hear about we're going to cover early in the first 15. So let's put 15 minutes on the clock please. Yeah, we got an actual clock. I mean things are actually happening. And let's start with roll that thing. Let's go with number five. Tonight the Bill Belichick era debuts down there in Chapel. Bill, North Carolina, they'll take on TCU in a game that's going to be on ESPN A that's going to be I think electrifying now with the underhit. We think so. We think what you saw Matt Patricia against Arch Manning, which we will certainly talk about here in a little bit, they were saying Matt Patricia, basically Bill Belichick, Steve Sarkeesian. Well, Bill Belichick is actually now in college ball. What will he do to the high paced TCU offense? We shall see. There was an article written on ESPN.com this morning actually pretty balanced, covered. You know, all the things that have basically happened since Bill has become the UNC head coach. Obviously there's been some drama, there's been a lot of drama, but there's been a lot of good in like for instance tonight I believe Michael Jordan will be on the sideline. Julius Peppers, Lawrence Taylor, Eric Church, Chase Rice, who I was actually there for his last football game as a North Carolina Tar Heel. They lost by one point to the West Virginia Mountaineers. I remember that.

[Connor]

Hell yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh yeah, it was in North Carolina. And Chase Rice will be there obviously same with Blake Snell. So whenever you're talking about the who's who of North Carolina, Mia Ham is going to be swinging by. It's like the attention that this North Carolina football team is getting is obviously at a different level than it had over the years. But will they be able to play football immediately? Will they be a team that will be able to gel quickly like some of these other teams that we've seen around college ball that got a lot of transfer portal people, got a lot of people that maybe didn't know each other just a few months ago, come together, play good football or are they going to be a team that got a bunch of people that don't know each other, come back and be bad at football. TCU is a tough task, but tonight should be electrifying down in North Carolina.

[Connor]

Yeah, at 333 wins in the NFL I think he's going to be able to figure out in college. 5 and 11, I think was his year one record for the Patriots So it might take a little bit here, but they're going to be in every single game.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I think it's going to be an under as well. I think it's going to get a little tight. That's the number five headline as they take off on Runway 23. Remember the Michael Jordan sponsorship there? There is a stat about the betting here for Bill Belichick as an underdog.

[Tone]

Yeah, I do. From 2000. This from Hembo, by the way. I don't want to take this as Miles.

[AJ Hawk]

Agreed. Clock ticking.

[Tone]

From 2001 to 2019, which is the Brady Belichick area, the era, the Patriots were underdogs 53 times. New England went 32 and 21 with a.604 win percentage in those games. The best record in the NFL as an underdog over that span. UNC is a dog tonight.

[AJ Hawk]

So we assume that this is going to go under because we think Bill Belichick will make you play left handed. They said Matt, Patricia Belichick, Steve Sarkeesian. What does that mean? Actually, D. But as a man who was drafted at the top of the second round to the New England Patriots.

[Chef D]

Defense, that really means the defense is very, very prepared. And prepared to show one thing pre snap and then another thing post snap. We're all good liars and we're all on the same page. A defense is tough to stop, especially for these young quarterbacks. So you talked about it taking time early on. He has free agency. He has draft already. Brand new team. I think they'll be prepared. I got UNC winning straight up.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, I like that. Now, he does have connections to. We. We all have connections to Lombardi and Belichick with tcu. Great football. And at the end of last year, they got real hot. They figured out who they were. A lot of tempo. How will Bill Belichick manage that? We shall see. Let's go to the number four headline from the weekend. Hey, special teams are special. Special. Now, we're not just talking about a little special. We're talking special. Special. A lot of great things for the brand across the board. Let's go down to the Beamer bowl, where South Carolina return man Vicari Swain takes this thing 80 yards to the crib. Ten, eight, game. It was a cagey affair. Both teams looked good, actually. Lenore Sellers is a guy. Cannot wait to see what he does in the NFL and also for the rest of the year for South Carolina. And Vicari Swain is an absolute menace. He's a DB who. Great vision, great everything. And then let's go to immediately after the game. They're calling this the Beamer bowl because obviously Frank Beamer, Shane's Padre, his father, coach at Virginia Tech for a long time. Shane Beamer went to Virginia Tech. Shane Beamer started his entire coaching career at Virginia Tech. Now he's a head coach at South Carolina with the highest expectations that he's ever had there. Frank Beamer before the game said he's loved seeing Shane live out his dream as a head coach. And taking on Virginia Tech, obviously going to be a little bit of tear of heart, but blood is thicker than legacy is what Frank Beamer said. And after the game, this is what Shane came up to say to his old man. Oh, man. Glad that one's over. Thank you. Thought you'd like a special teams touchdown.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Perfect. Thank you. Thank you. Love you. Beamer ball in the Beamer ball. Magical thing. Virginia Tech started out much better than they did last year. They had a lot more question marks around the entirety. But South Carolina gets a big win. Special teams are going to be good because beer ball. Lenore Seller seems to be a guy. Yes, they're talking about him being a guy guy now. He's big, he's strong, great leadership as well, which is great. And he can spin that thing. I love what South Carolina did here early. And also if you're going to get kick returns and punt returns every game, you're going to win those games.

[Chef D]

Got to win that third phase. And you know this better than anyone. The cardinal sin with special teams is a re kick on punts. And that was a re kick. Set him up for the DB to do his thing. Special, special play in the Beamer Bowl.

[AJ Hawk]

On that note, he elected for them to re kick. Not every coach does that. It was like an illegal formation or something. Sometimes they'll just take the 10 yard penalty from the end of the spot and move on. Beamer born in, baptized in special teams. That's right. So we'll do the re kick. All the coverage teams tired. Okay. Everybody's very tired going down the field now. He hit a good ball. I'm not saying he did not hit a good ball. Sometimes your second ball too. Mulligan can hit a little bit better, but the people that are trying to cover that thing, they want that second ball not return. We've already run. We've already run down the field. Yeah. We have already done this whole thing again and that ball was murdered. Obviously, I'm not going to blame the punter, but a re kick, you're Right. It's a great decision by. Easy for me to say, great decision for Shane to make, but also for them to make him punish. That's beautiful thing for the Beamer Bowl.

[Tone]

There was also a re kick in Rutgers and Ohio this weekend as well. The second one was blocked. So a couple times this weekend where the re kick has got shoved up someone's ass.

[AJ Hawk]

Let's talk about punter Devin Bale. Okay, kickoff guy for Arkansas tries to hit a squib kick instead. Boom. Right off a guy over his head. Excuse me, scoops that thing. Now you can't advance it, but I do like that he got nasty with it. He put that ball immediately on his outside hand, too. He wasn't going to get stripped. He was actually looking to stiff arm. Fucking. I think he was going to stiff arm a couple people. Hits a guy right in his thigh or his chest, bounce up over his head, grabs it. A lot of people say, hey, do this every time. I agree. I mean, I agree. Off the shin, actually up over his head. We should do this every single time. Now, if he avoids that and that ball continues left and goes out of bounds, this is starting at the 40 as opposed to them getting the ball. So it's a little bit of a dangerous situation. But you rarely see anybody on a kickoff return team standing right in front of a kick. And that is by design. That is so that you don't get blasted with the ball. I respect and appreciate how athletic Devin looked there. And yeah, somebody's gonna stand in that. Go on, Devin. Now, you have no idea where that's gonna bounce, but if that goes right back to you, if you can master it, that's a good trait to be able to have there, boss.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. I mean, maybe we changed the rule too, of not being able to advance the ball because after seeing him catch that, it's like, you know, what if. If he was able to execute this, let's let this boy maybe try to run it back for a touchdown.

[AJ Hawk]

Could you imagine? Because it looked like he was ready to.

[Ty Schmidt]

And he had a full head of steam, too.

[Connor]

He was going and he was natural.

[AJ Hawk]

That's a punter, by the way. We looked that up because I was like, damn, very athletic kicker. No offense to the kickers, but that's a very athletic kicker. Turns out he's a punter. That makes a lot more sense as a punter. I'd like to let everybody know within the special teams group, I think we are the far superior athletes. Yeah. Now the kickers are going to say yeah, but we're like brain surgeons. So who's more athletic? And it's like, yeah, we get it. But the punter, he ready to move. Let's talk about some of these kickers. Miami last night. Yes, big one kid. It's a 47 yarder. Minute left, fourth and now. I did not like the conservative play calls. Okay. I did not love what Miami did there late. I think Carson Beck can get you in and out of a play. I think Carson Beck can execute an offense. I think they look great. Carter Davis came in as just a kickoff guy at fau. Now he's become the full time starter. They put his stats up like, hey, this guy was 4 of 11. I think they were all real long. He was the kickoff guy. So I think he was probably the long field goal guy. And I didn't hear a lot of context being given when he put that stat up there.

[Chef D]

Can't do that.

[AJ Hawk]

I'd assume he was the biggest, the big like 50 plus. Yeah. Sent him out there for the big one because he had a really strong leg. But whenever you stepped out there for that 47 yarder and I only knew that 4 of 11 stat, I thought to myself, I don't know if this one goes through. Pured this thing. I mean absolutely pured it. Well, it wasn't down to center still. That was a no doubter off of his foot. And that thing is clearing the upright. I mean if they would have had the little stat cast thing on it, we're talking probably 60 something yards. What a beast. Another kicker. Absolute stud. Iowa kicker Drew Stephens hits a 50, 65 yarder over there in Iowa. Ty, you got grand ask. You didn't look like a quarterback early, but figured it out. You got a kicker that can hit 55 yarders. I didn't know that.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, this is huge. And this is the long.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

I mean that. That looked like he was good from 65. It was the longest field goal for Iowa in like 12, 13 years. Iowa football, like that, that is. He's a massive weapon for them and he delivers time and time again. So yeah, Drew Stevens is an absolute stud and he'll be vital for the Hawks.

[AJ Hawk]

Big Ten. You got to be able to beat the wind. You got to have a big leg. Yeah, he's probably gonna have some misses. I mean nobody is gonna go perfect in a big ten. Especially with kick, snap, hold everything operation. We saw that on display last night. Miami Notre Dame with the snap being outside, it's very difficult to get a snap hold kickoff with anybody, let alone in college when it's not a full time job for everybody. That's a huge kick. Who do you got this weekend?

[Ty Schmidt]

Iowa Statehawk.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Do you know his, their kicker, Kyle Conrar? 63 yards opening week. Bang. Come on. So clean now obviously that put them up 277 over South Dakota, but what a ball there. 63 just to execute that once again snap, hold, block, K everything. Live in a game. Unbelievable. Especially for a college guy. That was a pure ball as well. I like what I'm seeing.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. And he's slowly becoming like a legend at Iowa State. Last year in the Cyhawk game, he hit that walk off game winning field goal in Kinnick, 50 plus and then another 60 plus yard this week. Like he's, he's unbelievable.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I think he has a 62 yarder under his belt as well. I think they said this would be a record for himself. I don't know. But they also said the record was 58, so. I mean, whatever. He's a dog. I love watching him. Iowa, Iowa State might come down to the kickers.

[Ty Schmidt]

We'll see.

[AJ Hawk]

And it'll be a showcase event. And then obviously there was an 80 yard punt. That's the greatest thing I've seen. Tulsa punter Agnes Davies from Victoria, Australia hits this thing 60 yards in the air, lands at about the 34 and then gets a 24 yard roll. Unbelievable. 80 yard ball, 90 yards from foot to spot. It stops. That's. That's football. When I watch that, I get real excited. How could you not? Watching a torpedo fly that far. Everybody in that stadium. 100, 150. Yeah, yeah, probably around 150. Everybody in 200,000.

[Connor]

It's a dollar beer number.

[AJ Hawk]

It was big. Yeah. Everybody in that state. That's one of those things. You hit that ball in the stadium, everybody goes. That's what you're looking for. When you puny, you hear, oh, that's not good. That means it's check. You hear a, like you just hear air just being kind of sucked. It's like, yeah, you hit a good one. That kid had to feel that immediately coming off the foot and gets a great bounce. Now the return team is telling the returner, you catch the fucking ball. Okay, you catch the ball. But anytime a punter gets a good bounce, they always try to blame the returner. He put it over his head on purpose. He put it to a place that that guy wouldn't be able to get it so that he would be able to get a 24 yard return. Congrats to Angus. That's a big time ball and I love that. Special teams are special. Special. Now, now let's go around college ball. Who's real? Who's real? Who's real? Good question. Who's fake? Is Ohio State all the way back? Because that defense is seemingly unbelievable. How about FSU and Thomas Castellanos? He flipped the entire culture of Boston College. Is he going down to FSU and doing the same damn thing? And there might be some sort of record on the line here for Castellano.

[Connor]

Yeah, funny enough, Thomas Castellanos becomes the first quarterback in the history of football to go into a team as an unranked opponent and beat a ranked opponent, then decide, hey, I'm going to transfer. Transfer to the team that he beat and then that same team that he beat a year later will then play for them and then beat a ranked opponent. He's the first player. Other hashtag stat that.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it might be a real stat. We don't know. But we do know he is real. And anytime you talk mass amounts of shit about an entire institution and you turn around and back it up. Yeah, I love it. Shout out to Thomas Castellanos and Mike Norvell, Utah. Unbelievable. Unbelievable powerhouse. We'll talk about them here in a little bit because their quarterback might be the guy. Miami, obviously, huge win. Carson Beck in and out. He can get it done. And C.J. daniels, one of the nicest catches we have ever seen just so happens to come in week one in a massive to take a lead right before half. Unbelievable catch. Carson Beck looks like he's right at home down in Miami. He's got handshakes for everybody on that team. Oh yeah. I think he's potentially in the second floor getting shoulder rubs down there with the boys. I think Carson Beck's fitting in very well with the Miami, lsu. They could be a squad after their huge win with Nuss Meyer over Clemson. And then obviously anytime you think about college teams that could be real, you think about who's Rich Rock coaching. Bobby Vu could be a real deal this year.

[Connor]

No doubt.

[AJ Hawk]

He's. We're buzzing. They were absolutely buzzing. Terrible first half. Hey, it's going to happen. Week one, 35 zip. Second half.

[Tone]

Listen, Bobby Mo's not going to just go out there and lay down.

[AJ Hawk]

I agree. Rob Morris is a really good team.

[Connor]

Oh yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Rob Morrison, really good team.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

This is Nic Mozzarella here. Now Martial. He, he, he stuck around. Okay. We thought he would leave. He did not shout out to him. Sticking around and then we got a couple guys that are all over the field. Now. If we win this weekend against Ohio University, we're only three point favorites in Ohio. Okay. Which is certainly something. I like us a lot in that. And then Pitt is able to get a big time win. All eyes are on game day. Potentially heading to Morgantown for Pitt, West Virginia. So who's real at this point we're not 100% sure but we do know there were some highlights. They're put across the board. Let's go to the number two headline from the weekend. How about some arch madness or maybe is it arch sadness? Oh no. I was part of the problem. I was very loud. I called him Neo. I called him the one. I said, I know his boss was his young man. He's going to Manning Pass Academy. This is going to be the one. I went to bat for him. Very, very, very, very, very loud. I think a lot of people did that. I've seen him play and obviously people that think of a Manning and automatically think of some traits, he certainly won a few him. But what this Ohio State defense did to him and this Artesian offense as a whole, we have no idea what Arch and Texas are going to look like this year. That is a fact. I don't think necessarily Caleb Downs, that Ohio State defense is the best way to start the entirety of your career. But nonetheless he's going to have to learn quick. Who do they got this weekend?

[Ty Schmidt]

San Jose State.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay, so he might go crazy this weekend. We shall see how the rest of the year goes. Big loss for Texas, huge win for Ohio State who might not give up more than 10 points all year. And then the number one story from the weekend, Coach Corso's perfect farewell game day was an honor to be a part of. The people at Ohio State took care of us so well and cheered and celebrated a man who has given so much to sports as a whole. And he was perfect with his picks. And he was perfect. It was perfect. Very close.

[Chef D]

It was perfect.

[Ty Schmidt]

Pretty damn good. Pretty damn good.

[AJ Hawk]

He was perfect. All the teams that he coached or played for won throughout the weekend. So like everything about it seemed like the proper send off for the sports icon that is Coach Corso. And getting a chance to out on that 50 and be on that desk as he gave that re. It was, it was really cool. Obviously he was emotional. A lot of parties have been around him a very long time. That Friday production meeting, obviously he's ever present, he's always active and you can feel his sense of joy. Of life and energy and everything every single time. He will certainly be missed behind the scenes. I think everybody will understand that. But certainly on television as well as the entire world celebrated one particular person who has given back to a sport and to a show more than maybe anybody in the history. So shout out to Coach Corso, shout out to Ohio State. And maybe he could still send a text for his picks because it feels like he's seeing the board pretty good.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes, yes, Certainly.

[Chef D]

Sell him, Lee.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he should just. What if he makes a substack?

[Ty Schmidt]

That's not a bad idea.

[AJ Hawk]

What if he makes a substack and puts that thing up there? That would be classic. Coach Corsair's only fans just giving out his picks every single weekend. Coach, you're the man. I appreciate you. A luncheon on Friday, the tail end of it, obviously, because our show is during lunchtime. So I caught the tail end of it. Just like Torico, Tom Jackson. You're talking about the people that were just there giving thanks and appreciation and then the stories that were being told about him. Yeah, he's a dog dude. Always has been, always will be. And it was an honor to watch him work and see him do his thing. So that was our first 15, 21 minutes.

[Connor]

Boom.

[AJ Hawk]

Pretty good.

[Connor]

I mean, not. Not to mention the. The other things.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, we got a couple other little things we'd like to do every sing. How about you probably slept on now. There's a couple players that play on the west coast and these games started very late.

[Ty Schmidt]

Very late.

[AJ Hawk]

I was up very late on Saturday, unexpectedly, 3am night on Saturday.

[Josh Pate]

Football's still on.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay. Football still on. These games on the west coast were happening. Two guys that you probably were sleeping while we're playing might be the two best guys in the country. That is just. No bullshit. Now, granted, we haven't seen teams play against great opponents. Some teams play against great opponents. We have no idea what they're going to look like. This dude, Devin Dampier, he's a problem.

[Connor]

Filthy.

[AJ Hawk]

He's an absolute problem. This guy had 19 rushing touchdowns last year. Yeah.

[Tone]

1200 rushing yards last season.

[AJ Hawk]

19. And now he threw 12 touchdowns and also 12 picks last year as well at New Mexico. But he ran for 19 touchdowns. And I'll tell you what, obviously the passes are nice there. They just give them the rock. They this. He's unstoppable. It seems like he can't tackle him now. Does UCLA suck? Maybe. They might. We have no idea. They might absolutely suck. But I know this guy was Electrifying they went on a 21 play drive that was 9 minutes and 44 seconds long.

[Connor]

Jeez.

[AJ Hawk]

21 demoralizing. An absolute 21 drive. I didn't even know that was possible to have 21 play drive. And I think they had another one that was like 19 plays or something like that. Like that. You're talking about an insanely powerful team and you team that up with their defense that they're always going to have in. Yah. It's like, is this the year for the utes? Maybe.

[Tone]

Yeah. Kyle Whittingham has only had three losing season in his 21 seasons of coaching. So last year they went five and seven or whatever they did, but they didn't have a quarterback.

[Josh Pate]

Like they had a quarterback.

[Tone]

Cam Rising, who was supposed to play just never. I don't even know if where he's at. Like he. He just never showed up last year. So now they have a quarterback. They brought him in from New Mexico. They brought the OC in from New Mexico. I love when teams do that. And they have one of the best offensive lines in the country. So if they can run the ball and play defense like Utah does. Could be the favorite in the Big 12.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay. Could be the favorite in the Big 12. West Virginia still exists. But watching him late night was certainly a little bit of a scary sight. You know, this guy's really good. He seems to have it. And also Cal's quarterback, as we know, Fernando Mendoza. Mendoza came to Indiana out of Cal, freshman from Hawaii here, was committed and enrolled at Oregon before even joining the Oregon football team. Goes into the transfer portal first. Get first time ever senior signs letter of intent, goes to Oregon before football starts, Transfers to Cal. Okay, so I guess letter of intent doesn't mean anything, especially if the transfer. You could transfer before your freshman season.

[Connor]

Yeah, not anymore.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay, that happened. And I'll tell you what, who's happy about that? Cal, they got a guy. Saga Polo Television. Sagapol the telly.

[Connor]

Yes. Jaren Kiave.

[AJ Hawk]

Jaren Kiave Sagapolatelli. Boom. This dude might be the one. He's very tall, very athletic. And look at these ball. I mean, yeah, all of them.

[Connor]

He started six and six. First game ever.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, we in. I don't know how far we are into this highlight. Maybe 50 seconds. We're 50 seconds in. All these balls are just right. Perfect ball. Like that's a runner's ball. Obviously that's a touchdown. But that ball is right here. If that was in at the 50 or at the 40. 40. That ball is gone. All of the passes are right where they're supposed to be. He's tall. He's a lefty, so it's a little bit awkward sometimes for defense, I mean. And he's off balance on the run. He's got Vic in him. He's got two in him. He's got some Pat White in him because he's able to move. I mean, he is the real. This guy's the guy.

[Connor]

Look at that. Oh, yeah.

[Chef D]

Very, very calm.

[AJ Hawk]

He could have bought wings and handed it to him and dropped that thing over. The guy's wrong. I mean, that guy had no idea that was. I thought it was a back shoulder. Nope, sorry. It's front shoulder, actually. You're going to drop it, right? It is. He was outrageous. And people will probably fell asleep and had no. And nobody's going to talk about a cow. Oregon State. Oregon State. Now we don't know what they are either. Sure. Okay. Their coach was not happy. Obviously. There was a lot of bickering. Malik Murphy, who's their quarterback now, formerly at Duke, he and the coach were getting into a little bit on the sideline late. Feels like Oregon State might be in some trouble football wise, but can always bounce back. But these two dudes were playing very, very late night, and you probably didn't see. See him. They were a show and it was. It was a cool way to not fall asleep, I guess. Sunday morning kind of hated these guys. Sure.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Sunday morning kind of hates guys. Mackenzie's up early. How you doing? We need breakfast. We're up here doing it. I'm like, you'll know last night Saga. Paula, tell me.

[Connor]

Yeah, okay.

[AJ Hawk]

Evan Dampier. We're going crazy. I'm so sorry. Into the early morning. I know you're up there snoozing. We're very thankful for that. We'd like you to continue to do that. But boy, it was a late night on Saturday and I think that's going to continue with these two.

[Tone]

Yeah, it will. It's crazy how week one works because everyone. Everyone was super down on Cal coming this year. They had a ton of transfers out things they just. Just didn't feel like good vibes around the program. And then this kid comes in week one and now everyone's super high on them. They're like, oh, anything could happen this season. And then on the, you know, on the other side, there's teams that just laid an absolute egg this this weekend and their season's done.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Oregon State fans probably feeling that way. Alabama fans are feeling absolutely.

[Connor]

Exactly. Well, that was my first thought.

[AJ Hawk]

Florida State might be real though.

[Connor]

Yeah, for sure.

[Chef D]

Maybe.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, they might be real.

[Josh Pate]

Real estate might be real.

[Connor]

Bama will be real. Once Sago. How do you say his name?

[AJ Hawk]

Sago? Politely.

[Connor]

Yeah. Once he's the quarterback for Alabama next year, they'll be real good.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Well, so that's what happened with Fernando. He comes over to Indiana. He was quarterback last year, the lead Cal into the spotlight, into the, you know, everything that they were in and he goes to Indiana. Kurt Signetti was like, okay, we need to reload. Let's get a quarterback that has experience, some wins and some big time games and everything like that, which is becoming a blueprint for a lot of these teams. And then now Cal didn't even have a quarterback post signing day. Really. And then who knows what happens with Sagap. I assume maybe he thought it was going to be a comp or what. Like with Dante Moore, who very good with Oregon. Very, very good with Oregon. Maybe he thought, I need to play right now, I need to go find another thing. And then cow is just sitting there originally his team and it's like, hey, you need to come. Yeah. Dante Moore is a guy, but sa. He needs to be on the field because of what you just. I'm not saying Cal's gonna lose him. Ron Rivera is their general manager, right? Yeah. Okay. So he's gonna do everything he can to keep them. Him for sure. And I assume they got a lot of money out of Cal. If you can drum up the alums. A lot of finance people out there.

[Tone]

I think of the NFL.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay, exactly. Aaron Rodgers. You want him to give money maybe to keep this kid around. Maybe. But if they can keep him, he's gonna have. He's a game changer for them. People want to come play with him. Yeah. And I. Hawaii. A lot of us's travel to a couple different schools, you know, byu, obviously. Utah, why not California? Cal. Oregon gets a lot.

[Connor]

Why not Boise State gets a lot.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. So I love assuming he's.

[Chef D]

Was he like a top quarterback in his class?

[Tone]

Yes, he was.

[Chef D]

Okay.

[Tone]

Four or five star, depending on what.

[Ty Schmidt]

Site you looked at.

[Tone]

And he actually beat out Ohio State's backup last year. Went to count. He beat him out pretty early in camp, so.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it makes sense.

[Connor]

Yeah. I mean you're. You're looking at the future of the NFL. Let's not, let's not get it twisted here. Saga. The future. Yeah. I love this guy.

[Chef D]

I mean it looks like he was impossible. Seven against scout team.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Chef D]

Yeah, that's legit how it looks.

[Connor]

That's exactly right, though. I wanted to go to bed so bad. In the two games that were on, were both these guys just going bananas out of nowhere?

[AJ Hawk]

It's 1am and these two dudes are just all over that 21 play drive you would think would put you to sleep. But he was on the other. There was two of them. He was on the other one. Just crushing. You look back, Utah still has the ball. Some. Somebody must be hurt over here. You're watching this game. Utah still has the ball. Something must be going on in this game. No, it's. No, we're watching saga, Paul. And then you look over here and they still have the ball. 21 play drive 944. You can do that when the quarterback can run hard and also run outside. It is. You need a quarterback that can move.

[Connor]

They, they run hard, too, when they're getting the ball to, you know, some of their tight ends, some of their other receivers. Those guys are not going down.

[AJ Hawk]

All right, let's. Let's change speed a little bit here. Let's go to the NFL. Joining us now, senior NFL Insider for espn, Ladies and gentlemen, at Adam Schefter. Sorry we were delayed.

[Chef D]

Gentlemen.

[Adam Schefter]

What's going on?

[AJ Hawk]

What are you doing? Where are you at? You're at the Open.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm at the US Open. It's a. It's become something of a little bit of trip, like end of summer, take my wife and daughter. So this is the day we're doing it and. Yeah. Nice little day.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, I appreciate you calling us in the middle of it. Hey. Hey. Sorry. Go. Good. Go work a little bit here. You know, we. You see where we're at here? Open. It's the ESPN event. Yeah. It's good. I got to go work. You know, those situations. Please tell the family we said thank you for allowing you to have a little bit of time here. How is the U.S. open? I've heard the Wimbledon is a great vibe. Our people, a lot of beers. US Open, good time. What is it like?

[Adam Schefter]

You know what? Last year we came and it was awesome. Literally, I got here five minutes ago, so they're now wandering and doing whatever they're doing. I'll join them in progress. But by the way, I heard you say we'll see if Florida State is for real. I watched them on Saturday. They're going to be for real.

[AJ Hawk]

Real.

[Adam Schefter]

They're going to be for real. Florida State. I'm just telling you right now, they're good.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, they're big. They look big. I think that was the. My biggest takeaway is if you see a team that's big and very athletic and they're winning, like Miami. Yeah. Big, very athletic and winning. It's like, whoa, that team can go. Florida State. Big, athletic and winning. Whoa, that team can maybe go Ohio State. Big, athletic. That team can maybe go West Virginia. Big, athletic, like that team can go. Bryce Underwood from Michigan. Buddy. Big. That guy can go. It looks like you guys paid the right guy. Looks like you guys are in a good spot. He was very comfortable.

[Adam Schefter]

You know, it's amazing. That guy is 18 years old. Like I met him last summer, last month. He was. At that time, he was 17 years old. And like to come into all this pressure and money and status like at that age, I just, I think that that is incredible. That's a lot to ask of a young man. He looked apart on Saturday night and you'll see. What time is that game against Oklahoma on Saturday? Do we have any idea?

[AJ Hawk]

We do have an idea. It's either at noon, 3:30 or 7.

[Connor]

3:30 or 7. Just because it's.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it's not going to be big. Noon.

[Connor]

Yeah, it is.

[Tone]

Or maybe it's eight at 7:30 on ABC.

[AJ Hawk]

7:30, ABC. Let's go. That's a big game. Hey, Venables and the boys over there very pumped about where they're at. Underwood gets his first real test. I like like that he's blocking people too. He just blindsided, blocked. The guy so big, the college so big, so big. So two freshmen. Did you see how comfortable he was?

[Chef D]

Oh yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Like, I know it's New Mexico State. No offense, New Mexico. I, I don't want to, I don't want to say, you know, no offense to anybody. Okay. Because some of these smaller teams can give people hell, you know, and I don't think we give them enough credit either when that happens. But he was just sitting back there and just reading and going through his pro progressions. It was like that play with.

[Chef D]

When he was backed up and is close to his own end zone and kind of threw it over the top. Think this tight end, 17 over a couple like that was like some, some next level stuff.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he's really. You guys got a guy. You guys haven't had a guy a little bit, you know, JJ leaves, you ain't got a guy. Now got a guy.

[Connor]

Hopefully they play.

[AJ Hawk]

We pay a lot of money from a guy that owns one of the islands in Hawaii and all of a sudden we got the best guy to ever play Football. That must be fun up there in Michigan.

[Adam Schefter]

Chef D. Well, we'll see again then. It's early and the guy I think will have a great career and I don't want to expect too much of him early on, but it was an encouraging start. He looked strong, he looked the part and we'll see how that plays out.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay, let's talk about some deals that got done here. Cowboys and Daron Bland, were they waiting on the Micah stuff to pay other people or was this always in the works?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I think when you have all the money that you save on Micah Parsons, you can go allocate that elsewhere like Daron Bland gets done. I would think at some point they'll wind up signing Tyler Smith to a contract. And it's a lot easier when you have all this money that you're planning on spending on Micah Parsons to spread it around. So Daron Bland is the first benefactor. The fact that Micah didn't get a deal done, he will not be the last one in Dallas. I'm sure there'll be others and also benefit. Tyler Smith will be my guest for the next one and we'll see how that plays out. But the Ron Blaine gets a big deal over the weekend. Four years, 92 million.

[AJ Hawk]

All right, let's go to the Kingdom D. Bud has a question for you.

[Chef D]

Yeah, Stan, with cornerbacks. One of the best cornerbacks in the league, Trent McDuffie, saw a report saying a deal may not get done out there in Kansas City. What's the update there?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, again, I think eventually some deal will get done. They're going to want to keep Trent McDuffie. He's a frontline, elite cornerback. But they're not going to get a deal to done before the start of the season. Nate Taylor reported that for ESPN.com and the two sides have not had significant discussions recently. Not a big surprise that it won't get done. But again, I would think the Chiefs will revisit it at some point. They're going to want to keep them. It's not like they're moving on from the guy. It just means that they're not going to get the deal done by the time they open the season. Friday night in Brazil. Amazing, right? It's Monday and the Chiefs in charge. Let's play Friday night. Night in Brazil. We got the Cowboys, Eagles Thursday. We got the Chargers, Chiefs Friday in Brazil. Football week is here.

[Connor]

Here we go.

[Adam Schefter]

Kind of a neat little thing.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, we got UNC TCU tonight. I mean, we're back in ball, brother. And it is great. Speaking of Cowboys, Eagles, there's a player that will not be playing in that particular game. He is now playing in Land of Cheese. Go ahead, Ty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Chef. He kind of like everyone assumed, you know, after Michael Parsons gets traded to the packers and gets paid, his back is fine. We got our first glimpse of him at at practice. Don. And number one for the packers, how do we feel?

[Connor]

One should have been zero.

[AJ Hawk]

Hold on.

[Adam Schefter]

I'm just watching these videos today. I'm watching him running around. I'm watching him hit a tackle dummy. And I said, man, it's amazing how much better your back feels when you get $188 million. It's amazing.

[AJ Hawk]

It's a proven. I think it's a proven method to fix somebody ham. If you a got got a little hammy tightness, we know the remedy. Yep. You got a little back tightness or a little soreness that might need a second or third opinion. We know the answer. This is kind of a sports doctor thing. This is kind of a sports medicine. I don't know why everybody else isn't it.

[Ty Schmidt]

You're right.

[AJ Hawk]

If you're give them 100 million.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly. To your point, though, I would have appreciated if he was zero and Matthew golden was one and not the other way around. But I get it. First player since Curly Lambeau to wear number one. It's a big deal. They want to show up like, hey, we wanted you really bad. So they do that. But shefty. Any word on what the packers plans are for his usage going into Sunday against the Lions?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, they have not committed to using him yet on Sunday. Again, I'll say this as a general rule. If you're getting $188 million, I would be surprised if he's not out there on Sunday. Now. They want to make sure that that pack feels okay this week. Let's remember he hasn't gone through camp at all, hasn't participated in any of the drills he's been working off to the side. So obviously there's going to be a conditioning level. We'll see whether he can play the whole game. But I'm going to guess he is out there. I'm going to guess he is a factor. And you bring up the numbers right, he's wearing number one. The last time Curly Lambeau wore that number was 100 years ago. A hundred years. We haven't seen a pack in that number in a hundred years. That's pretty incredible to me. 1926 was the last time a packer wore number one.

[AJ Hawk]

Curly Lambo's a G, though. He is, yeah. Curly Lambeau got into some. I mean, Curly Lambeau. I did a little research on him as I was going to call, I think the Lions packers game about where it was, why it was. He's founder of the packers, basically. And this dude is a dog. Curly. Yeah. Curly Lambeau is a dog. Everybody knows Lambeau Field. Lambo Field. Curly Lambo started the Packers, I do believe. And there's some. There's some things that have. Where he had to be really, you.

[Connor]

Know, stand on business.

[Tone]

Every.

[AJ Hawk]

All of them. Yeah. He wore number one. I think he was star.

[Tone]

All of them.

[AJ Hawk]

Zero would have been sick, though.

[Ty Schmidt]

I, I think so too. And I just. I, I don't love Matthew golden wearing zero. I. I think you got a speedster.

[AJ Hawk]

Golden one one too.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's pretty sweet.

[Connor]

And then Micah becomes the first player ever to wear zero for the Packers. Like he's a. A Packer forever.

[AJ Hawk]

Problem. Curly Lambo, fullback, quarterback and kicker.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, whatever you need, of course.

[Connor]

Head coach.

[AJ Hawk]

That's Curly Lambo football. That's right. We're expecting the same out of Micah. It is amazing. His back is healed. I'm excited to see. They haven't said if he's going to go or not, I would assume. I saw him bouncing around his house. Yeah, I think he's in pretty good shape.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I think he's ready.

[AJ Hawk]

He ain't get blown up there even if he.

[Chef D]

Pull drain.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Mulatta, let him know, hey, we're not going back. Dallas go ahead and be pretty confident about that entirety. We have tried to get David Mulgetto on the program. We think tomorrow we'll be excited to go behind the scenes on how it all came together. Let's go to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Go ahead. Tone.

[Tone]

Yeah, Chef. I know there hasn't been any contract adjustments or at least it hasn't been reported. Is Cam Hayward playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday?

[Adam Schefter]

We're going to see that he's to going got a decision to make there. It was actually the first thing I thought of when I saw that Jaylen Warren has a new deal.

[Tone]

Yes, he does.

[Adam Schefter]

For the next two years. Tying him to Pittsburgh through 2027. They have not resolved that. They've not been able to figure it out. And so I would think it's going to be really interesting to see if Cam Hayward is on the practice field on Wednesday as the Steelers get ready to open their season on Sunday against the Jets. Of a decision to make Wednesday, I would imagine I'LL have a decision to make Sunday, probably. We'll get an idea where he's at on Wednesday. If he's not practicing, it's not going to be a great sign, but I don't know what's going to happen there. It's. It's kind of lingered out there all summer long. It has not generated the amount of attention that some of these other issues have, but it's about to get interesting there. And again, maybe Cameron Hayward says, I'm going to play on this deal. It didn't sound that way early in the summer, but we'll find out.

[AJ Hawk]

Cam Heyward not playing for the Steelers this year. Holding out because of money. Money with the whole year. One base dealer. You don't think. Yeah, it's just like, oh, so much, you know, that's why whenever you do a podcast and all those things, people are gonna hold everything you say against you. Even if it's out of context or not the same situation at all. They're gonna do it. Cam Hayward knows that he puts his big boy paid, so he'll be in the Pittsburgh Steelers Ring of Honor hall of Fame, whatever the hell it is, at some point in his life. It seems to be a little bit of a disconnect right now. He's been in practice, though, talking to Coach Tomlin. He's had pads on this year, but he hasn't. He's been open about it, but he hasn't really been a distraction. Interesting. It's kind of a Trey Hendrickson situation happening right in front of our eyes. I don't think Cam wants to do this. Feels obligated to do it because you guys can't just disrespect me because I've been here for so long. Probably has people behind him and around him being like, they're taking advantage of you because you're a Pittsburgh Steeler. They, you know, they have your brother on team. Your dad was on a team. You've been here second longest tenured guy alongside Mike Webster, right behind Ben Rothsberger. Like they're going to try to take advantage. They just paid DK Metcalf 33 million bucks. That's a lot of money. Pittsburgh Steelers just paid DK Metcalf 33 million bucks a year. He's. He's never done anything for Pittsburgh. You have 45 different foundation events you do every single year. You go to everything. You're like a mascot of Steely McBean or whatever the hell his name is. Is not even a mascot. You are our mascot around Town you go, somebody needs Steeler, representative, you go. And his people around him are like they're taking advantage of all this. They're just giving him money. Jalen. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

You bring up DK Metcalf. They paid DK Metcalf. They paid Jalen Ramsey. They paid John Hugh Smith today. They paid Jalen Warren, who's been there. So they've paid a lot. Darius Slade, they've paid a lot of different players, not to mention T.J. watt. And so everybody seems to have gotten paid except SAP Cam Hayward right now, by the way, I know it's a different deal, but Chris Boswell's in the same boat, too. We haven't talked about that either. I don't know that a kicker is going to walk away and retire before the season begins. But Cam Hayward wants a new deal or wants it to be addressed. Chris Boswell wants his deal addressed. So it's not just. It's not just Cam Hayward right now.

[AJ Hawk]

Shafty, Pittsburgh Steelers fan. And Yenzer Tone has.

[Tone]

I'd like to be on record, requested the floor pay Chris Boswell $60 million a year.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay. Okay, That's.

[Tone]

Pay him what? That man, whatever he wants because he's been the best player besides Ben Rossberger and T.J. watt for the last, I don't know, however long he's been there.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, whatever you need to pay him. What is the kicker number right now? What is the kicker number right now?

[Adam Schefter]

I don't know what he's making, but the top kickers are making five, six million dollars a year, probably.

[Tone]

I think he's like a million below.

[Josh Pate]

Whatever the top is.

[AJ Hawk]

So, I mean, think about that. That's one vet min contract. You can up that thing a million million bucks and make him happy.

[Connor]

You know, the Steelers were disrespecting all their vet players, trying to win for their veteran playoff.

[Tone]

They don't normally pay people unless it's going in their last year or whatever. And I believe he has two years left on his contract. So, you know, they did it with tj they did it with Ben, but, you know, they're special people.

[Chef D]

They don't usually trade and pay wide receivers either.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, they also don't normally fire offense coordinators in the middle of season. They've been doing a lot over there.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's a good point.

[AJ Hawk]

But will it work out? Will it win a Super bowl, or will this be the first time in Tomlin's tenure where he's under fire? 500. Oh, no. Got the jets, week one. Justin Fields could have been your Quarterback.

[Tone]

Better win that one or the season's over.

[Connor]

Yeah, I love it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Do or die right out of the gate.

[Tone]

They don't win week one. Season's over.

[AJ Hawk]

All right, on that note, Chefy, last question here. Shout out to Sunday. Take it. By the way, that was really nice. Whenever they were having their dispute with, you know, Fox and everything, they came out quickly and were like, Sunday Ticket won't be affected by this. Really needed to hear that.

[Connor]

Goaded.

[AJ Hawk]

Thank you for doing that. Cannot wait for Scott Hansen to be one of the four, and then it's a Colts game somewhere. Disappoint me if I'm not there. And any other two, no Colts going to win this year. Yeah, that was rude of me to say, but two of them are always going to be the Colts. And then Hanson Red Zone channel, and then the other two top games. I can't wait for that. Oh, my God, I cannot wait to get there. Shout out to YouTube TV Sunday Ticket. Go ahead, pal.

[Connor]

Yeah, I mean, Colts play in Indianapolis this week.

[AJ Hawk]

Pretty absurd to think about against the Miami Dolphins. Need to win that one.

[Connor]

Another dirt.

[AJ Hawk]

That's.

[Connor]

That's another team. Probably you could throw in there.

[AJ Hawk]

Into this.

[Connor]

Yeah, into this. Shefty. I'm assuming Indy might be involved in this, but these last two years, you've basically hit the nail on the head when it comes to the projection of how many head coaching openings there will be during the off season. Looking at it right now, obviously there's some situations that might happen that could change things. What's your projection as of now, as far as, you know, head coach openings go, when. When you look at it as a whole, who right now do you know has to win going into the season?

[Adam Schefter]

Kind of what I would say is it doesn't really matter now. We haven't seen a team lose a game yet. And so I've seen over and over where a coach looks like he's on the hot seat and that team all of a sudden plays better. Like, oh, look, I think everybody feels like Brian Dabel's on the hot seat, but I think the Giants are going to have a better season than people expect. So all of a sudden, if they're ripping off, win, wins and playing better, he's off the hot seat. And somebody else who we weren't expecting is going to be on the hot seat. I think you have to let the season play out. But we've seen on average about 6.8 head coaching changes per year. I believe a couple of years ago there were 10. I believe last year it came in lower. That tells me this year will probably be around at the average, but a little early to ask the question. I understand why you would. I'm not prepared to give you an authoritative answer right now. I would say just going in, my guess is 6 to 7, usually the number and I would imagine we'll be around that number. But let's see how the season's shaking out before we're putting people on the hot seat and running them off.

[AJ Hawk]

All right. Well, you certainly will do that as soon as the call time calls for it, which we appreciate. Yeah, yeah, we do appreciate that. Have a great time at the U.S. open. Tell your family who said hello and sorry for keeping you so long. Oh, good.

[Adam Schefter]

Happy Labor Day. You guys will be in touch next Monday. If not you shooter.

[AJ Hawk]

Happy Labor Day. Is, is there a game happening or match happening anywhere near you right now?

[Adam Schefter]

Right behind me. We're, we're about to go into the coco golf, Naomi, which supposed to begin here about 45 minutes or so. All right, 45 minutes.

[AJ Hawk]

We appreciate you. Enjoy yourself, man.

[Adam Schefter]

Thank you guys. Have a great one.

[AJ Hawk]

Ladies and gentlemen, Michigan man Adam Shepherd. All right, let's talk a little bit more about the. Those stories that we ran through at the beginning. Arch. Arch Manning. That was a tough go. Tough. That was a tough go. Matt Patricia's Dan Orlovsky did it. Now Dan Orlovsky was pro Arch Manning. So Dan Orlovsky is going to get on the side of Arch being screwed here. Arch being held back. Sarkeesian is giving him a limited offense, which might be true. Sarkeesian might have done that. And then he also pointed out a lot of things that Matt Patricia was doing to Arch Manning. We've seen numerous film breakdowns now from Dan Orlovsky where Patricia would show one thing almost like the amoeba defense that the Ravens do. And then they have somebody hand in dirt, then they're dropping back. It was kind of like a high level NFL type defense was taking place for that Ohio State Buckeye defense. Now they're obviously studs, won national championship, best defense in the country I think last year. They lose their defensive coordinator. Ryan Day has to rehire at that position. Position still have studs all over the place. Lost some guys to the NFL. Jtt, Jack Sawyer amongst those two guys that are gone. But they were able to reload and then they bring in Matt Patricia and Matt Patricia kind of gets laughed at because at the Detroit Lions he was horrendous. Yes, he was horrendous. He was out of shape. Most of it he was on quad because he had broken ankle. There was really nothing good that came out of his time with the Detroit Lions so bad. Like everything was bad at the Detroit Lions. We actually got a of lot with him, like friends with him because Benitari and him have known each other since he was a ball boy with the New England Patriots. So I've known him a long time. I think he's a good dude, I think he's a funny dude, I think he's an upbeat dude. But I think whenever he became a head coach, he might have thought he had to be a hard ass, might have thought he had to be a different person because of how much he saw Bill Belichick and how much he learned from Bill Belichick. For whatever reason, it didn't work. And nobody worked in Detroit before mcdc got there. So, you know, just jot that down as a walk. Bingo. Everybody forgets this guy used to draw plays on every desk that he's ever been at. Loves ball, addicted to ball. Whenever he was at the Patriots and Bill Belichick, now everybody talks about Tom Brady getting learned defenses from Bill Belichick. Matt Patricia was defense coordinator with Bill Belichick, you're talking massive brains. Everybody remembers they should have handed it off to Marshawn lynch situation where the boys actually practiced this exact situation leading up to the thing because Matt Patricia saw something early. Yada yada, yada yada, he's a super genius. And it was on display on Saturday. Is that what you're thinking? And is this a problem for everybody in college football? Is this the blueprint for Arch? Other teams just need to do what Matt Patricia did. Or is this Ohio State defense going to be different than everybody else that Arch is going to see?

[Chef D]

Coaching is a huge part of it, obviously having your guys prepared, but having very, very talented guys is another part of it. And they have very talented defense. That secondary is probably the best, if not one of the top three best in the country with the guys that are that are still there and the guys that they brought in. But yeah, they show some things pre snap, they show some things post snapping. That third Buckeye is the biggest one to me. Pressured him 14 times, 12 of which only came with a four man rush. If you can get home with just sending four and having those other seven guys have eyes on the quarterback, break on the ball, anticipate right routes, communicate them, pass them off, that is a huge, huge weapon. When you don't have to sacrifice the guys from the Coverage to get after the quarterback. So that was a big deal for Matty P. And the players, you know, taking onus on that. He did a great job. But in my opinion, I'm still going to put some more. More than Dan O. Did on Arch. You know, you got to come out there and you got to make throws.

[AJ Hawk]

He's starting quarterback in Texas.

[Chef D]

He started quarterback in Texas and you know he. This is his first time being the starter but you know, he's a junior, he's been there for a couple years and I was surprised that how his mechanics look like his three throwing mechanics. You know, he has off. Yeah, I don't mind his sidearm but just the, the total body not stepping into it, doing some things off the back foot. Not something you expect especially from a Manning. I'm sure Sark will clean some of that stuff up. I don't think. You know Sark, yeah, you're going to be somewhat conservative when you're facing a coordinator in defensive talent like you're facing. But you still had opportunities all the way up until the end of this game where if he puts that ball. You talked about a runner's ball earlier, earlier, you put that on that receiver across the field. Who knows what the rest of that drive looks like. He did make some big time throws late in the game. We know how athletic he is. So long, long season. I think Arch would be just fine. But this is a hell of a test to come out of the gates with against Matty P in that Ohio State defense.

[AJ Hawk]

Fourth quarter was definitely his best quarter, no question. And is that because he finally figured out what the hell Matt Patricia was trying to do to him? Is he like a Manning where he's trying to dissect and learn and go forward or was he just kind of caught in a blender and holy. We just need to bury the ball and move along the Texas defense too.

[Connor]

Great.

[AJ Hawk]

Very, very, very, very, very good. So I mean you're talking about these are two best defenses in the country last year, right? Texas and Ohio State. So literally that a lot of carryover in that particular realm. But what a tough start for both sane having to take on that Texas defense. He gets a win. Congrats, Ohio State. Congrats to Ryan. Dead huge tight shirts.

[Connor]

Very tight.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he's wearing tight shirts. We're seeing a lot, coach. We're seeing a lot.

[Connor]

Every part of your skin.

[AJ Hawk]

He's in better shape than he has been in a long time. He looks very good, looks very fit. Huge win and I'm Excited for him. Cardinal Tate. Damn, what a catch. Bounce off his chest, off his shin. Double grab catches for a touchdown. Sane can spin it. He can certainly do that. Arch can. As well as what everybody was saying in that fourth quarter being his best quarter, I think we're kind of looking, looking for like, okay, maybe that'll carry in. Maybe he just kind of settled in too little too late. But also, it's like you're starting quarterback in Texas. Everybody's expecting you to be great from the jump in this thing.

[Connor]

Yeah. No one cares if. If your right tackle is a turnstile and he turns around to block the pass rusher with his back, basically. But it is going to be all on Arch. But the other thing with Patricia is that's not getting talked about is people are thinking like, hey, Belichick's probably going to do this, you know, tonight with Uncle See, with Caleb Downs, that's probably the only reason they can do what they're doing. Like, you talk about amoeba defenses and moving guys all over the place. Like Caleb Downs is probably the. The only reason he's allowed or able to do those things because he probably makes up for half of the that they're doing. He's the chess piece that's confused in Arch. And Patricia's just the one letting him know.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he had him down on the line multiple times and he would drop back into coverage. They only brought pressure. They got pressure. Pressure with four man or whatever. 12 times out of 14, they're showing six, though every time, like, did not blitz them. It looks like a blitz every single time. And then who's backing out? Well, you have to try to decipher who's going where and whenever. They're showing zero or cover one and then they're dropping somebody from COVID two back there. Are you and wide receivers on the same page? Probably not. Are you able to have an out of this? Probably not. Are you making the right read? Maybe. It's like, I think Sark, Arch and that Texas offense got a big wakeup call with a very, very talented defense.

[Tone]

A lot was made off of, you know, they lost their entire D line. You talked about Jack Sawyer and JTT and the two boys in the middle. They lost off.

[AJ Hawk]

But.

[Tone]

But Downs is back, Igbosan was back. Matthews who had the interception.

[Josh Pate]

They.

[Tone]

Those three all started on the back end last year. So, like, while they were not as experienced up front in the back and then Sunny Styles at. At linebacker, like, they were very experienced there off of a championship defense.

[AJ Hawk]

Caleb Dons I met his dad Friday night. It was cool to meet him. Has a good presence about him, his dad and obviously Caleb and Josh Downs brother Josh Downs, now with the Indianapolis Colts. I think there's a three year age difference, I think. And one of the stories that I was being told is that whenever he was very young, he was taking a picture with his family and Josh is like out running away and Caleb is like directing him to come back and stand in line. Mr. Downs is basically like, Caleb's been like this since he's 3 years old. Just has always been very mature. He's been great at ball. I guess there was a return or a punt return or a kick return or something. Whenever he was like a very, very little kid where he was like seeing the field and cutting back and I was like. Because I asked him, when did you know? He's like very young. He did something and we were like, oh, we might have a guy here. And it's like almost been written since he was a kid like, this guy is a guy. He goes to Alabama. Soon as he steps foot on the campus, they're like, that's the one that is. There's a gold jacket on that guy. As a true freshman at Alabama, that was savings Alabama too. Which? Boy, oh boy, it ain't savings Alabama anymore. No, no, no, it is not.

[Connor]

This ain't your daddy's Alabama.

[AJ Hawk]

This is not. Or your daddy daddy. Daddy's Alabama either. I mean, it is a. Is a wild time down there. But Caleb was a guy as soon as he gets there. So when that Ohio State gets them plucked up there, it's like they immediately we got the best player in all college football on the defensive side wins the national championship. Couldn't try to do it again. It's like he's the guy and Matt Patricia knows he has that. And now it's like if you can keep that culture on that defensive side, especially Big Ten football, you can really confuse and beat people up. Especially if you're going to continue to get Ohio State type athletes. Good for them. Let's talk about that athlete. Alabama team.

[Connor]

Boy, do we have to. Don't do it.

[AJ Hawk]

Dan Orlovsky said he counted 21 loafs. Yeah, that means you would have to watch every single game, every single player, every single play.

[Connor]

And he did 21. And that's why he's the goat.

[AJ Hawk]

Counted 21 loafs on Alabama staters. You got 21 traders is how Rich Rodriguez would describe that. But I think that was the biggest takeaway is like, not only are they losing to Florida State, who's completely reloaded. Yes, completely. And teams have been able to be very good whenever they use the transfer portal hard and get the right guys in there. Thomas Castellanos, right guy? Yeah, right guy. Everybody else insanely athletic. They brought in five new offensive linemen. Felt like Thomas had some time. They brought in D lineman, felt like they were getting to the quarterback. Felt like who they brought in big, fast, very athletic. And Thomas Castellanos has to give the entire team a lot of confidence. Especially whenever he comes out and says they ain't got saving there anymore. I don't know know who the fuck's going to stop me. Basically he said that? Oh, yeah. Then he comes and now he's got shirts that say like, Nick can't save him. Basically.

[Connor]

Sweet.

[AJ Hawk]

It was a wild thing to say, especially because Alabama still most five stars committed to the 2026, still got like one of the best offensive lines in all of college ball. Still got five stars and blue chips all across the board. Kaylin DeBoer also another year in his culture. He gets his offensive coordinator back that he had at Washington and he had in Indiana. Whenever they. They had a bunch of success, it's like, this is going to be the Alabama team. And then you're watching. It's like that Alabama, they got bullied, beat up. Yeah, lazy. Yeah, lazy. Wearing the Alabama stuff. It's like, is there not four or five stars behind every one of those guys waiting to take their spot? Like, you want to loaf and be lazy, you better be a fucking Heisman winner. If you're just another guy on the team. There's four guys behind you. There's are willing to sprint full speed even if they're not going to make the play. It's like all those things kind of made, I think not only Alabama fans who are obviously disgusted now, they're making up stories. I hear guys are getting door dash, fast food. 1am Day of Hotel at the hotel. Not the hotel. They're walking around flip flops after curfew. Nobody's saying anything. Friends are there.

[Chef D]

Tik Tok.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. It's like all these things. It's like now this, if this continues. It's only. Those are only to get more and more. Cuz Saban created a standard there.

[Chef D]

Yes.

[AJ Hawk]

And that is one standard. You're going to go. And if we're going to play like ass, there's only going to be one reaction when you show me on camera, says blue polo guy.

[Connor]

I don't want to hear that was awesome legend.

[AJ Hawk]

Legend waited for his moment, moves along.

[Ty Schmidt]

I like Kin deboer a lot and we don't know how he is like in practice and behind closed doors, but it seems like he's just emotionless on the sidelines. You guys always talk about looking behind you. Vinnie always thinking, hey, I got to do do like saving. Those guys were scared to death at all times, so they all always performed with that hard edge or whatever. It seems like they just don't give.

[AJ Hawk]

A yeah, that's what Alabama fans are saying. Yeah. And you know we're gonna stop giving a right. I'm gonna stop giving a piss. Yeah.

[Chef D]

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[AJ Hawk]

Football this is the greatest. We're so lucky that we get a chance to chat about tonight. UNC will take on tcu. It'll be the debut of Bill Belichick as the head coach of the North Carolina Tar Heel football team. I along with alongside the college game day folks. We'll be doing the kickoff show and the halftime show. So we will be boots on the ground in chapel. Bill we cannot wait to see what this new era of Tar Heel football will look like. And they're taking on a tough horn frog squad. This team moves. This team's quick. What will Bill Belichick try to do alongside his boy? And an entire team with 70 new transfers. But stars are going to be out. Michael Jordan's going to be out on the side. Yeah, that's right. Julius Pepper's going to be on side. Oh hell yeah. Mia Ham's going to be on the side. What? No more? Yeah. No, I. Hopefully.

[Connor]

Okay.

[AJ Hawk]

I mean right?

[Connor]

I hope so.

[Ty Schmidt]

You would think so.

[AJ Hawk]

How about Eric Church? Whole heard of him.

[Connor]

Talladega.

[AJ Hawk]

What's that? I don't know. That nine year NFL. I don't think we do either.

[Connor]

It's all right. You won't hear that one. Lambo's just going to fall. Yeah. Hey, Springsteen. Come on. Hit me again.

[AJ Hawk]

Doc's tables here at Boss Connor and at Ty Schmidt, 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys, AP Tone is here and joining us live from an attic in Ohio, fresh out of a dinner that I'll tell you what, I don't think I've ever seen a group of people like that together before. AJ was certainly there. Ladies and gentlemen. Aj, JJ Hawk. Hey J. That was awesome. Were you holding court at that dinner? What was going on on Friday night? We just so happened to be getting dinner. Two separate groups, our backs two feet away from each other. Okay.

[Connor]

That's incredible.

[AJ Hawk]

He's looking one way, I'm looking the other way. He seemingly spotlight of that conversation.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Not even close. That's bold face. I barely even spoke at that Situation.

[AJ Hawk]

But, yeah, you were there, though. You were at the point of the circle.

[Connor]

That situation said, I did her.

[AJ Hawk]

It was. It was awesome. It was. You look like a very powerful group. I'm gonna let you know. You look like. Shout out to Giuseppes over there in Columbus. Great. Wow. Giuseppe founder. Unbelievable. On his road to recovery right now. Okay. Just. I don't know how long ago. Do you know how long ago it was?

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

I do not. No.

[AJ Hawk]

Do you know what happened to Giuseppe?

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Not really.

[AJ Hawk]

Where do you live?

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

That's like 40 minutes from where I live.

[Ty Schmidt]

Special occasions now.

[AJ Hawk]

Go there. You need to know what happened.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

His son was there. His son was doing great. Son was doing Giovani.

[AJ Hawk]

Just Pisan that created Jeppes, he and his family. Wow. Wonderful Italian. He was driving home. This, you guys are going to feel like right now. Just want to let you know, this is going to be a very, very serious story. He's on his road to recovery. Not a lot of Giovani talk over there and a lot of. I don't know, situation sitting over there. Just happy. Got t boned. Oh.

[Tone]

Oh, thanks.

[AJ Hawk]

Connor. Paralyzed.

[Connor]

Oh, no.

[AJ Hawk]

65 years old. Now he's back walking. Okay. 65 is like, he's gonna get his ass back into that restaurant, I do believe. Talk to the family. Obviously, the family's like. As the story was being told, we're like, holy. We're so sorry. He's like, no, he's gonna. He's gonna get back. Like, that's how it is. 65 years old. Guy's a grinder. His food immaculate, his restaurant packed to the gift on Friday night. And me and AJ just like two feet away from each other. He was talking. I. I just met Caleb's dad about a minute and a half before that, so I was the only person I knew at that table. He's talking to a table of what seemed to be bigwigs. I mean, we're talking. This is a big deal over here. I think I saw some people potentially watching. Securing. Wow. Okay, what's happening here? And we're just having a light little dinner over here, you know, light little dinner on this.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Light little dinner.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Light little dinner. Light little dinner on this side. You look like you were having a good one, though. I want to let you know. I looked over once a while. I'm like, AJ's really chopping it up in there. A lot of laughs. A lot of big time laughs.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

I'm a great listener. I'm a very good listener.

[AJ Hawk]

People say, yeah, but you're dissecting. As you're listening.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

You know, I'll jump in if I. I'll jump in if I'm asked to or it's needed. But I'm not going to, like, you know, shoehorn myself into conversations. I don't know anything about you.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, I do. That's made a living out of that. The. You know what they say, the quiet lips, loud brain.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, that's right.

[AJ Hawk]

That's what they say. You never know what's going on in there. Something. So there's words somewhere. Where. If they're not coming out of here, where are they? Let's talk about the words coming out of there. For you and all of Ohio State alumni and fans, how do we feel after week one? Obviously huge test against Texas? Your defense looked phenomenal. Obviously Arch did not look good at all. A lot of people blaming Sark. A lot of people giving Matt Patricia a lot of credit. Obviously, the players are insanely good over there at Ohio State State. Julian Sane gets his first start, his first action as an Ohio State Buckeye quarterback. Other than just the spring game. What do Ohio State fans say? You guys got to feel great about this national championship repeat, huh? After week one.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Ooh, I think people feel pretty good.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

I mean, you talked to Ryan Day going in. They said, like, oh, what's your expectation for Julian saying? He said, just a win. Let's go out there and let's get a win. Let's get a victory. And they did. I mean, 14 to 7, you would like to have a little bit more of a cushion. But I think they, like, they did everything they needed to. Texas is an awesome team, Their number one ranked team in the preseason. So, of course, anytime you get a victory over a team like that, especially to start the season with all these new guys, some inexperienced guys, I should say, coming in. Yeah, it's a. It's a good win for the Bucks. They're going to keep it moving. But, yeah, I think it was a positive situation.

[AJ Hawk]

I think so, too. Great setup. The. The tribute and how you guys paid your respects to Coach Corso was cool. That was really cool. I think, obviously the game day people are probably going to send their thanks to the Ohio State folks, as they should. But, you know, everybody we've met over at Ohio State has been very gracious to us, which is why we didn't want to hate them.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly.

[AJ Hawk]

We didn't want.

[Connor]

We were ready to, though.

[AJ Hawk]

We had to. If we had to, we had.

[Connor]

It would have been easy.

[AJ Hawk]

That's just.

[Connor]

But we didn't I don't think it.

[AJ Hawk]

Would have been easy. That's what I'm saying is it would have been hard.

[Connor]

It would have been oh so easy. But again, I did not want to do it like genuinely enjoy the. The Ohio State. State. The team and also like the players, the alumni that, you know, Will Howard, you just talked to him like they were. He was very nice to, you know, us, the other guys when we were at the ESPYs, which is funny.

[AJ Hawk]

Talk about another guy. I mean, Bobby Carpenter's facility for. Yeah, everybody there. Very kind to us and has been very kind to us. So we're happy that we don't have to act like we don't like them. Even though Conor's like, really we can. We still act a little bit like that.

[Connor]

I. I could go. Go.

[AJ Hawk]

It was cool. It was very cool how the Ohio State people treated Coach Corso. That was awesome. With the band lineup behind him and the whole place. I mean that was just. That was an epic moment and proper send off and him being absolutely perfect on all of his picks and every team that he ever coached or played for winning throughout it. I think it was a great send off for a sports icon. How did you feel about it as an Ohio State fan and did you guys chat about it at all about, you know, I'm happy our band did. I'm assuming your band has never done that for anybody or anything thing ever before, let alone the horseshoe doing that.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Yeah, I don't think so. And when you were telling me like the schedule and how they were doing it, you know, okay. Course was going to come out after the all this stuff, I was thinking, man, that's a lot of moving parts. How in the world do you like put that together logistically? And they, they nailed it, man. It was great. Like I thought it was. It was a beautiful situation for coach and I love that he wore the tux and then he gets all the picks.

[AJ Hawk]

Right.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

All this stuff. Like it worked out exactly how it should work out for a legend like Lee.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. And it very rarely does. Right. Doesn't it feel like that never happens? You never get the right send off. Feels like he got his flowers and then all his pictures. Right. He's right. I love that. The tuxedo was awesome. Nobody knew that was coming. Get up there. See him in a toxic start. Yes.

[Connor]

So quick.

[AJ Hawk]

Yes. Immediately what I said, you know, he was getting a little emotional, I think multiple different times. I kind of taking it all in as was everybody, you know, because it was like we're not going to see him around as much anymore. The Southwest flight thing that came out on Thursday or Friday, whenever they paid tribute to him. Yeah. I started getting a bunch of messages asking me why Coach Corso is flying Southwest and I'm not. It's like, I don't know. But I also do know that I think I have offered up for Coach Corso and he said, oh, way too much money. Don't you do that. Like, Coach Corso is literally like, old school, the oldest of schools. And like, traveling through that airport that he did for the last 30 years through Orlando is like his thing. Like, I think he loves it. I think he loves seeing the people. I think he likes the energy. Energy and everything. And now, granted, if I was Coach Corso or his agent, okay, he was the same one. I met him. Same one for 38 years. It's like, I think we would try to talk him out of that whenever he gets 80 years old, you know, he's like 90 now. 80 years old or whatever. But I think Coach Corso is very much like, nope, this is kind of how I operate. This is the way it goes. And that's like another. A nutter. Yeah. Another reason why it's like, this dude is such a legend. There will never be another one. Like, there'll never be another Coach Corso. And there's little story lines like that through everything.

[Connor]

The. The flight thing made me think of the Peter King story about Lamar Hunt, when Lamar Hunt was flying from Kansas City to New York or Dallas, whatever, and he was sitting in like, 38B in the middle, reading a book, and this guy essentially invented the NFL. Like, some people are just in their routine and like to travel that way, too.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's a football coach at heart, so he's like a creature of habit and everything. He's probably been doing that for decades now. And. And like you said, you know, I'm sure he enjoys, like, people see him in the airports. Like, holy, that's Lee Corso. You know, like, it helps you feel young and. And it's just.

[Connor]

It's.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's what's easy to do. So, you know. Yeah, I mean, if he wanted to fly private, I'm sure he'd be flying private.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, that's what I think, too. Now, granted, should somebody have pushed a little bit here maybe last time?

[Connor]

Yeah, maybe.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Like, I think there was a ball drop, but I don't know if Corso would necessarily say, right, you got it. Like, genuinely, I do not know. That's the type of Guy. He is. But I saw. I saw the video, and I just was like, sick. I'm happy they're celebrating him because we know the backstory. I didn't even think about everybody being like. Because this is how we acted as well.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

When we learned of this, I did the same thing. I went right to the top of the. Coach Corso can't be doing this. What are we talking? Like, he likes it. Like, he. Like, that's like his social media. It's like, his thing. Like, and it's like, really? I didn't know that was the case now. Is he just saying that so he doesn't step on any toes? And he said. Because he's always just trying to, you know, dance. Who knows? But other than the South Utter, than the Southwest thing. Yeah. It was like, what a perfect. All of it. The luncheon that we stopped by was magnificent. The production meeting on Friday, they captured it. It was great. Like, everything about it was very, very good. So we'll miss him, but what a perfect way to kind of go out. And if. If you're ever doing anything for a profession for that long. And at the end of it, every person, including the other network.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Wants to say thanks.

[Tone]

That was cool, too.

[AJ Hawk]

You done good, you know, A.J. you done good.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

There he is. I mean.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Like, Lee Corso is college football. He, like, he.

[AJ Hawk]

The.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

The juice, the energy, the. The pageantry that college football is like, Lee has embodied that for, what, 30, 40 years now? @ least. More than that, Most likely.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Yeah. Good luck to whoever has to follow.

[Connor]

That would suck.

[AJ Hawk]

That would suck. The whole sport. Yeah. Both networks, documentaries, more stories coming out about how legendary he is. Good luck.

[Connor]

Have fun.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, you're gonna do great. You're gonna do great. It's like, I. I was thinking that as he was doing it, I was like, bro, there's no. What the. How the. What are you supposed to do there? Yeah. Legend, dude. Dude, you just got 127,000 people to go absolutely crazy. Even the Texas fans are doing it, you know? Even the Texas fans are squabbing. Yeah. Well, yeah, it's just like, wow, all right. What a legend. Dude he was. He's always been very kind to me, which is what I appreciate, you know, because I told the story before, but it's the truth. When I get dropped into college, game day full time, it's like week three or whatever. Week two, week three, whatever it was, I get dropped in there, A lot of people in the SEC hated me because they thought I was taking time From David Pollock. The people behind the scenes, though, hated me because they knew that I was probably brought in there to potentially one day add the entertainment, the energy, the spice, if or when Coach Corso was to step away. So the SEC fans hated me because one of the greatest players in the history of the Southeastern Conference, David Pollack, was potentially going to lose some time because that was going on there, which once again, David Pollack, incredibly kind to me. I get along with David Pollock. I respect David Pollack. David Pollack was great for college football and he was a great football player. Got hurt when he was with Cincinnati Bengals. So he was all, he's been great. He was great to me, very nice to me. But the SEC and Georgia fans, more specifically, boy, they hated me. You know, big, loud dumbass from Pittsburgh's coming in here and this guy's taking time away from a great. One of the greatest dogs. Dogs in the history. Why is this guy here? They were loud. Boom, boom, boom. But what people didn't know is behind the scenes, people hated me. Not for that, for the. The guy who created this entire sport and the guy who created this show and the guy that created this entire being is basically. You're potentially. You're never going to basically, you know, so it was an interesting little thing there for a couple years up until now and still kind of happening, you know. Yeah, sure. So that is certainly. It's been an interesting environment for me. It's been a very. But like, the thought of being on that show is just such an honor. It's like I love the fact that I get to represent football. Like that is a cool thing getting to do. And I tried to tell Coach Corso that whenever we did like the roundtable shout out session to him, and I got a chance to say it on tv. And I've said this to him off air, too. It's like he loves ball. Like, that guy loves ball. Everything about he loves ball. And it's like, I think that is why I'm initially drawn to him. And then the way, like he goes about it, it's like that that guy's speaking how I would speak, like as a kid growing up watching him. So, you know, I have nothing but respect for these. But there's a lot of people who don't have a lot of respect for me being the guy that's coming in there. And I've certainly felt it. And I will try my best to represent for football is what I'm saying, and for college football, especially in this magical time that we're in right now where you have no clue what team's going to become the greatest. You can be out ass absolute shit a year beforehand and then become a perennial power yet again. Looking at you, Florida State, you can be great and then become. Oh no, what was that? Looking at you, Alabama. Will they be able to find their way back with Crimson Tide? We shall see. Top 10 teams competed this weekend, six of them against each other. So obviously there was going to be at least three top 10 teams with an L. There were four. Penn State though. No, haven't talked about them. They beat the hell out of Nevada. Drew Aller looked good. Yeah, Drew Aller looks like what we wanted him to look like after the terrible ending to his season last year. He could have either crumbled or used that as motivation to get even better and maybe become top pick in the NFL draft this year. This Penn State team is for real. Ohio State, obviously they get the massive win over Texas. Texas, Texas defense not getting talked about because Ohio State's defense is getting talked about. Julian Sain and the boys couple drops Claire Jeremiah Smith early. We don't know what that's all about. We assume that'll get cleaned up. Heart line. Now the oc it's like tough sledding against that Texas defense. But I think that's going to be for everybody this year. Obviously Clemson loses the LSU in the Death Valley bowl. And LSU is a real deal. They are. Georgia defeats Marshall. That's Tony Gibson's first game as Marshall's head coach. Sorry about that. Sorry about that. Notre Dame, close one in Miami. CJ Carr, you know, he, he seemingly was. Had some moments where it's like he's a guy. The running touchdown obviously is crazy. The scramble all the way back to his own 30 or 40. Then the no, look throw for his first touchdown. I mean, this is filthy. Watch number eight. Just go ahead and jump. Yeah, I got you. And number two. No, yeah, we're going back that way. I mean, he just made the guy even more wide open. And those are throws that a lot of guys can miss, especially in their first start. Get a little nervous, the guy's wide open and then he does the billionaire strut with the big ball dance. So I like what C.J. carr showed Miami, obviously all the way back in my eyes. I can't wait to watch them all season. I put out a tweet D but I don't know, I said we're about 45 minutes away from the month of September starting. I've only seen four Quarters of this Miami team. I believe in them. I do. I believe in them this year. Not that I didn't like last year. So many miracles last year. So many miracles last year. And you know, they were back for the first time, long time. But whenever their fans traveled out to Cal and I got a chance to see him before game day, the Miami fans are like, this is different. This is different. Crystal Ball's got his culture in. So now you get a new quarterback, get a new everything. Is Carson Beck going to be able to continue to lead him? Yeah, he is. And they're big, strong and fast. And if Carson Beck can get him in and out of the huddle, Carson Beck can get everybody lined up on the offensive side. The defensive side is going to have dudes that can hunt, which they did. Did. They decided to just end the game. You got guys making catches like that. Michael Irvin's losing his on the sideline. I think there was like 60 some thousand people at this game. 66, 000 people at this game. It's like, is Miami back? Is the U back? And then Florida State's back, Florida's back, Florida State of Florida back. And college ball as a whole.

[Chef D]

Hey, we need especially our age group. For me, being a South Florida kid like that was the glory days for college football. Un being good, Florida State being good, and then the University of Florida being good. Um, and Florida State beating two top 10 teams opening week. That's huge. And in Florida doing their thing against Long Island University, I believe, you know, good start to their season. So we'll, you know, they'll have tough. They'll have a tough schedule, so we'll see what they're about. But Lagway still looks like the real deal. But yeah, if these three teams can be good, which they look like they will be, that'll be huge for college football as a whole and for these two new quarterbacks, you know, coming in new places. Carson, Beck and Castellano is like getting wins over top 10 programs. That's huge. And everything that I heard that has been going on behind the scenes with Carson Beck. I grew up a Hurricanes fan, still a Canes fan, so everything I heard that he's done with his teammates and then how he clicked instantly with this OC where he has much more control at the line of scrimmage to get in and out of plays. Like, as a player, I know even as a defender, we can kind of change and have adjustments to coverages, to bunches to do. That just gives you so much more Ownership over the defense or the offense as a player. So I love what I saw. Malachi. Tony was unbelievable. He was electric from the jump. True freshman Ty Hilton s for sure. Great, great player. So, yeah, it's. Everything's looking good for, UM right now in the state of Florida as a whole, which is big for college football as a whole, in my opinion.

[AJ Hawk]

What are you saying, Gumpy? You're saying. Yeah, let's keep watching. Hurricanes. Not the Dolphins. Is that Hurricanes?

[Josh Pate]

Hurricanes.

[AJ Hawk]

Hurricane. Hurricanes. Is that what's going on down there in South Florida, Gump?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, it was nice to see the defense. That new DC we got from Minnesota was electric on the sidelines compared to what we had last year. Just that one bust at the end of the game I would have liked. They threw it a little bit more. They got way too conservative in the second half. I know the defense was playing well, but would have liked to see him kind of end it a little earlier.

[AJ Hawk]

I don't like three straight runs there in the fourth quarter when you put the game away, especially when it's only a 47 yard field goal. Like, if that's. That's a 27 yard field goal, sure, we got it. We understand that kid makes the kick, obviously kind of puts him in a better spot than they could have been, but they got. They did rest on their yawnies there. They rest on their yawnings a little bit. AJ this is a huge ball here, though. Opening night with a minute left in the 4th. 47 yarder for a guy that was 4 of 11 in the past at FAU. I think they were all very long kicks. I think he was sent out there for, like, the long balls, so not high percentage kicks. But that. That graphic didn't say that. This guy's come out here 11 times. He only made it four times.

[Chef D]

He had the pot snap earlier, too, so I know that has to be somewhere.

[AJ Hawk]

And then the first extra point almost hits off the upper.

[Tone]

Mario is a great recruiter. He's a great coach. But sometimes in that fourth quarter, he.

[Josh Pate]

Gets a little tight.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he does need to get somebody in his ear that lets him know.

[Connor]

That was the thing for Miami, too. That really pushed it over the edge for me. Was Mario crystal ball kind of talking about all the guys being back, like, about how much more means the, you know, Notre Dame rivalry for him. And then, like, Andre Johnson was there. I think Clinton Portis was there. Lewis, yeah. Ray Lewis, obviously. Michael Irvin. Everyone saw, like, the amount of players that came back. If all that is happening, I mean, it reminds me of tonight with unc. Like all these dudes are going to come back for all their home games and they're going to continue to go.

[AJ Hawk]

And Miami's a scene, dude. Yeah, there's a lot to do afterwards too. And I think Carson Beck's doing all.

[Connor]

That for sure from the reactions I'm.

[AJ Hawk]

Seeing with his team. Yeah, I hope so too. That's quarterback. Yeah, that literally is joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football analyst for ESPN now. Oh, wow, really? Founder of State, ladies and gentlemen, the host of Josh Pate's college football show from on three Sports and Yahoo Sports still a thing. Ladies and gentlemen, Josh Page. Hey, what up dude?

[Josh Pate]

I watched what you watched last night. You just hit on, I think the underrated storyline of college football the past decade. So you're talking about all these state of Florida teams. You sit next to Saban every Saturday. Last title he won was the 2020 year. You know, he won that with a defensive backfield made up entirely of starters that they got from South Florida because none of the South Florida kids were staying home. Ohio State's roster has been littered with South Florida kids. Clemson, Georgia, they all go into Florida. Not cause those kids are dying to get out of the state per se, but because for the past decade, decade, Florida, fsu, Miami, combinations thereof have not been able to present a viable path to play for a title to those in state kids. So you're right. If the wheel on that ship has started to turn a little bit, it's the biggest story in college football. Not just because you may have two or three premier programs back. Think about what it does to pluck two or three premier players per recruiting cycle off the rosters of the other contenders. Because that's been the dynamic shift the last decade in the sport.

[AJ Hawk]

Who was the name of the guy that had the yachts and thoughts and ended up on a cot eating two hots in a cart?

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Nebin Shapiro.

[AJ Hawk]

Shapiro. Is he back? Does Miami have money? Does Miami have the money to be able to keep up with everybody? Seemingly. I mean, they've paid a quarterback now back to back years. But are they, do they have enough money to be able to keep up with the likes of the Big Ten?

[Chef D]

Dana White was on the sideline too.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, his daughter goes there ready, just checked her in. He's. He's become a Miami guy. Do, do we know that information about every team before we go into the year? Because it feels like that is the piece of information that we need as we project what the Future looks like for all these parties.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah. So I'd say yes tentatively already to your question. Then I would say you've got just an utter assassin as your head coach who also happens to recruit 25 hours a day. But I've always thought of Miami kind of like I think of usc. Like if you ever were to get the forward momentum, you saw who was in the stands last night at that game. You know how deep they're pockets are. You just got to convince these people that, hey, hey, ball's moving, it's starting to roll downhill because then everyone wants to put their sticker on it. Everyone's. They won't all have the rub with it. It's just they happen to have deeper pockets there. So if you initiate Miami, which they've already got a lot of money, but if you really initiate South Florida behind the cause of Miami football. Yeah, it's a runaway freight train.

[AJ Hawk]

I'll tell you what, I'm. Florida boys are good at football. Yeah, they are. They certainly are. And everybody was really fe Houston on South Florida. I still think the big money schools will be able to. But if crystal ball can keep the boys home, I mean, why not? Norvell is able to just turn over a team and make them big, fast and strong. And then Napier's got his culture set in Florida. Is Florida a good state of football? It was must change television whenever Florida was on there for a while. Must become must watch. Let's go to another top 10 school. Go ahead, Tone.

[Tone]

Yeah, paid another top 10 matchup we watched on Saturday night. Was LSU heading to Clemson. Did we get bamboozled by Clemson again? You know, we all the returning production. Did that make us forget that they haven't beat an actual good team in probably the last three or four years? Or is Ellis, do you think LSU is a really, really good football team?

[Josh Pate]

Both are probably true. Tone, let's. Let's be careful when we say we because I backed off a little bit the closer we got to the season. And you made a point though, that it kind of extended itself into this LSU game. So Clemson last year, great year. Everyone thought they'd build on that this year. And you returning starters sometimes an overrated stat, by the way. If you return guys who have reached their ceiling, you're just banging your head against your ceiling again. So they faced three SEC teams last year. They go oh, and three. They go 14 of 40 offensively on third down against them. They then go 3 of 12, 12 on third down against LSU. So they're like 17 of 52 on third down against highest levels of competition they face, they can't scale up. They can't scale their competition level. So what we're probably looking at, just until I see otherwise, we're probably looking at a team that is absolutely capable of doing what they did last year. Banging on the door of a playoff spot. Who knows, maybe they win the ACC again. I'd be very careful of that trip down to Georgia Tech in two weeks. But I think they're capable of what they did last year. I think just don't know that they're capable of anything more than that. Your eyes play tricks on you. Every summer you open that preview magazine and you see X number of returning starters. And then you watch a quarterback coming back. Oh, he's got his same offensive coordinator, same system, same head coach, best receiver room they've had there in quite a while. All of those things are true. You convince yourself that means things just scale up another 20%. Sometimes you just are who you are. Ironically, he may have himself. Himself. Hey, Clubnick. In the same mess that Nussmeier was in last year. Nussmeier was a good quarterback for LSU last year. He had no run game. And the other night Clemson had no run game. And if that's the case, you. It's unfair to put those guys in a position to just expect them to, you know, mount up and shoulder the entire load. Nussmeier threw 12 picks last year because they couldn't run the ball. Kate had a really good touchdown to int ratio last year. This year, my instinct is if they can't run the ball any better than they did the other night, you're going to see him more turnover prone, which will lead to is he a bust Conversations. No, they're just putting him in an unwinnable position.

[AJ Hawk]

If that's the case, yeah, desperation will lead you to throw the ball into double teams. And like that is what I believe Josh Paid is talking about at this exact moment. They need to run the ball with Dabo. Did you see him? Yeah, he came out. Hey, that was one of the better hill runs. It was. I've seen. I mean, that thing was tucked in. The pants were up to the belly button. But he was, was. I mean, he was really striding. How old is Dabo? Can. Can we look up how old this man is?

[Connor]

35.

[Josh Pate]

How old are those hip flexors? Chip, the. The hip flexor. His stride length has not shrunk. His. His stride length is still every bit the same as it was 10 years ago. And you know good and well he works on that one.

[AJ Hawk]

55 years old with those hamstrings. Those are 55 year old hamstrings he played. Yeah. 55 years old. You're not supposed to be full. I mean, you're talking. He striding out now. Tom Cruise. Yeah, but even more forward lean. Whoa. Yeah. Tom Cruise has got to work on his base because he doesn't know where a bomb is.

[Connor]

That's a good point.

[AJ Hawk]

Dabo just knows that he's got to get to that 50 faster than anybody else. He's trying to catch up to the band in front of him or whatever the case is. So he's got a little bit more forward lean, especially because he's coming down that goddamn hill. That thing hits a little whoopty woo there too. Oh, yeah. You know that thing's like, what? What's the place? Cedar Point in Ohio. That thing is like Cedar Point's best roller coaster. Of course it's not Kenny Wood.

[Adam Schefter]

It's not.

[Connor]

I saw someone from Kennywood this weekend. Some sort of event or something.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, there's a ride outside too. It's called keep your head on a swift. Oh, yeah, sue us.

[Connor]

We like the booze and fight.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, sorry.

[Connor]

They will if you booze and fight.

[AJ Hawk]

They shut it down. Actually, they shut down Kennywood 21 plus nights because there was six straight nights of fights.

[Ty Schmidt]

That lady's voice.

[AJ Hawk]

Hurry up, let's go. So we get on a ride. So good inside jokes here. Josh.

[Josh Pate]

I'm from rural Georgia. I know nothing about what you're talking about. It sounds great.

[Connor]

It's just really poopy roller coaster and there's a fight.

[AJ Hawk]

It's an amusement park called Kennywood, actually. Here's the hat. Thank you. It's in Pittsburgh. It is the greatest amusement park in the country outside of Disney something, you know. So if it has Disney before it, it ain't keeping up with it. But if you want to have a good time with the family, go during the day. Yeah. You keep that family out of there at night. You keep that family out of there at night, I'm gonna tell you that. Go ahead, A.J. back to paint. Sorry about it.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Yeah, Josh, obviously everyone's talking about Arch Manning and how he performed against that Ohio State defense. What do you think of Arch's performance? How's he gonna do the rest of the year? But also the Ohio State defense and Matty Patricia, what he was able to do with some of these guys that have not played a ton of football so far at the College level. Like, what do you make of Arch and what do you make of this defense Ohio State has?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, I wish. I almost wish you asked the question in reverse, AJ Because a lot of people are leading with Arch. Arch is not the story here. Ohio State's defense is the story. I. I got to be real with you. There were two instances this Saturday where I looked and I said, if you didn't know any better, but you just knew the storylines, you wouldn't know which team is which. Bama, FSU is one of those, which we can talk about whenever, but this one right here, like, if I tell you one of these teams just won a title title, then they're replacing both coordinators, huge chunk of their roster. That's an operation that is ripe to have a reality check, especially against a hungry team equally as talented. Still on a mission. Got Arch Manning as your quarterback and they stoned him, made him so indecisive. I'm standing there on the field. It was one of those games where if you just watch the quarterback don't even follow the ball, don't even look at the secondary, don't look at the line of scrimmage, you can tell he's got time to throw. Either he's missing wide open guys or there's a blanket of over that Texas wide receiver core. Mostly the latter instead of the former. I don't think they have the kind of speed at receiver they did last year. They can play that in the building all they want to and let it echo through the halls. They don't have the kind of speed they had in their wide receiver room last year. So they're going to have scheme guys open a little bit more. But, dude, there should have been something. Imagine, imagine this time last week if we had Sark just like quad box him here and we said, hey, you're going to hold Ohio State to 14 in the shoe. Will you take that? He would have signed his name on whatever dotted line he could and it wasn't enough. That was pretty. That was pretty surprising to me. Dude, Ryan Day has gone from people questioning whether he's the guy for his own job like seven months ago to he's a genius. He was always the same guy. Nothing's changed about Ryan Day. He was always the same guy. It's just his Wikipedia page different.

[AJ Hawk]

He's thinner. He's in much better shape now. He's in much better shape now. Tighter clothes. We all saw it. We all know we're talking about. But he is in such great shape right now.

[Josh Pate]

Can we, can we please? Can we please? Someone needs to air this out nationally. There is a big difference in hard nipple versus nipple ring.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

There's a big difference.

[AJ Hawk]

That's not us. That's not. We don't need to be doing that. Go to somebody else and do that whole thing. We just know that he was jacked up and how could you not be? He had chills. Yeah.

[Connor]

Big time.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Connor]

Like Dewey, who also is slimmed down.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Dwayne Johnson looking very thin. He. He looks like he's becoming like an iron man type thing. He might be. Hey, Rock, whatever you're doing, you look great.

[Connor]

Might be working out together.

[AJ Hawk]

You look good. Maybe you talked about the Alabama FSU game. You don't know who's who. That's good time to talk about this. Go ahead. Ty. Yeah, Pete. How.

[Ty Schmidt]

How much do you think Kaylin DeBoer needs to be worried about keeping his job this year? Right after the game. We saw that, you know, hey, is buyout $70 million are we looking at, you know, hey, Alabama needs to go to the playoff this year. He's likely out. Or how do you see this whole situation panning out?

[Josh Pate]

I don't know if it's that. I just. I don't know where we are with them. I mean, that's my national championship pick. You think Saturday was bad for Bama? Imagine picking them to win the title and then that gets thrown in your face. I think the new reality of college football, okay. Is for big time programs. Bama, Ohio State, Georgia, ET Etc, you're used to there being a really high floor. So like the worst case under Nick Saban ever was going to be nine wins. Kirby at Georgia, worst it could ever get is like eight or nine wins. That's what you think. That's not the reality anymore. So they're. You're driving down the interstate still. Same interstate, but there's no guardrails, there's no median. It's just edge of a cliff both ways. Florida State found this out last year, by the way, where if. If a tire falls off, there's no limit to how bad it can get. Like you think Bama can. They can't miss a bowl game. They absolutely could miss a bowl game. Or he could get the ship righted. But your question is he need be worried about his job, dude. He needs to be worried about the competitive character of his team. There's a big difference in, oh, I mean, Arch Manning, a little inaccurate. Or, you know, your guys miss assignments, they drop balls. Like the fundamental competitive Character being called into question, Running back, stoning your linebackers and basic run fits. Can't shed that stuff. Stuff turning down blocks, in some cases dropping balls left and right not because you just misjudged it, but because you maybe turned it down over the middle of the field. That's like non negotiable stuff. That's stuff you took for granted under Nick Saban. It's stuff I take for granted, frankly, as a viewer from every major program. So that stuff, if it doesn't get corrected, I don't even know what the answer, like $70 million is not even a real number to me. That's monopoly money. I don't, I don't know what the answer there is. I just know that that high floor is not in existence anymore. So there's no limit to how bad it can get. If that stuff doesn't get corrected, you, you don't look down the road to Georgia. You don't look past this Saturday. I don't care if you're favored by five touchdowns, you don't look past the next opponent. And we've just been so accustomed to being able to do that with these big time programs. I don't know that you can do that right now.

[AJ Hawk]

Josh. I don't know if you saw obviously the pictures of Coach Saban's office and then Kalin's office, obviously drastically different. And then Kaylin, the way he goes about doing stuff versus how Saban goes about doing stuff. Multiple different ways of doing things. You know, like there's a lot of that that had to happen. And following Coach Saban in Alabama would be a. Be like trying to follow Coach Corso on college gambling. That would be a very, that'd be a very, very difficult task. I, I think with all parties, let alone the fact Saban still lives there, still has an office in the building and obviously is still very prevalent in college football world because he is great on television on college game day. So everything he's saying on college game day, Alabama fans are like, yep, that's what's being said hopefully to the boys. That's what's being said right now because that's what it has been. But what Kaylin DeBoer is doing is trying to build his own legacy at AL Alabama. And he's going to be compared to this guy who is not a, this guy is out of some never ever land. Yeah. Unbelievable competitive stamina and an incredible ability to lead, adapt, evolve, listen, let alone gut decisions just in the moment, being able to make a decision that Nobody else I'm going to. Yeah, I'm changing quarterbacks. Halftime, national championship actually. Bang. Put another guy in here. Multiple. So I'm going to do that actually. And then let alone who goes where, how he recruited. It's like Kalin had a very tall task of becoming an SEC coach to begin with. Okay, that's tough. Tough conference from Washington coming in there, but then to follow the guy actually. And then now he is the guy on TV for college football. Seemingly an impossible job. Is he going to be able to. He's had success when he was a D3 coach. Had success, Indian had success, Washington has success. We assume he's going to win. But is that just. Is that the right assumption? I guess would be the question for you. Who's kind of down in the middle of it all down there in the South?

[Josh Pate]

I had the same assumption. I still think the dude's a stuck. Like I think he's a winner. I, I mean I've, I've sat in that renovated office and point blank asked him, taking over for a legend. Not the stuff you say on tv, like we're off the record, just shooting with me. That guy's got a lot of intensity. He's got the right mentality, like the right mentality. Is this all right in college football and sports for a long time that thing you just said has existed. 99 percenters out there say, boy, you don't want to take over for a legend. Well, 99 percenters aren't qualified for the Alabama job anyway. So by default you have to be a 1%er. You have to be different. You have to mentally be wired a little different. He is the big secret in college football has always been, yeah, you don't want to take over for a legend. Call of the situation. The legend left Paterno at Penn State. Forget about the off the field stuff, just him on the field. Yeah, he was a legendary coach, but the program had waned by the time he stepped away. So if you took the Penn State job, if you took FSU post Bowden, you were taking sky high expectations with a rebuild on your hands. Saban's last game at Alabama was a playoff game. So he left a pretty full covered. He left a really good situation. So guys like deboer look at it and see say, well, I mean forget about the expectations. Forget about people saying take over for a legend, this and that. I think I'm really good too. And so I look in the mirror, I think if I'm given the right resources, I can build my own legacy. And I think he, yeah, he may have taken a dive into the SEC waters and realized, boy, there's something beneath those shark fins. Like, yeah, there's, there's a little something more to this conference than I thought there was. But more so than that, dude, pat it. If you're just getting out executed, if you're getting beat by three at the gun. That happened to Saban occasionally. It's not that. It's the non negotiable stuff. He didn't have to question this at Washington. You didn't have to question toughness about his Washington teams. So that's what I wonder about. That's why it's such a mystery to me. I went and watched him scrimmage twice. I went and watched him in spring. I watched him a couple of weeks ago. I had no inclination that that FSU result was even possible. It.

[AJ Hawk]

It was maybe just bad, bad day. Rain was hard, hard. You know, Tom Segura, Burt Kreischer out there shirtless. Sure. You know, maybe it's just a bad night. Maybe just laid an egg on opening night. Maybe they just didn't have energy on opening night. Maybe they just didn't have maximum focus on opening night. Maybe. Maybe that's just what it is. Maybe this is the one game. Breakfast ball.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, breakfast ball.

[AJ Hawk]

Maybe they need a breakfast ball. Should we, should we give up on Alabama or no?

[Josh Pate]

No, I'm not going to give up on them. But look, hey, God gives us 11 more games. So if you're right, you'll see it like they got. They got Wisconsin coming in. They go to Georgia in less than a month. So if that's just a one off, which I have suspicions about, but let's just grant the floor to you, it is your show. If it's a one off, we're going to find out really, really quickly.

[AJ Hawk]

I don't think it's a one off. I am just living in hypotheticals.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure.

[AJ Hawk]

I did not like what I saw either. And I don't think that's just something you can fix. Which is why I say some things about some players in the NFL and people get mad at me for pointing out the obvious. And then they say still can change. It's like, I don't know. That feels like something that you either got or you don't. But if the team can flip the script after getting embarrassed by Florida State, who might be all the way back. Maybe Kaylin DeBoer makes his own legacy diner. Maybe. Maybe he's got a deboer Street Diner. That'd be cool. Maybe he's the Goat Diner.

[Connor]

The Boulevard.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Maybe it is the boulevard.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Right down.

[AJ Hawk]

Kalin.

[Connor]

The boulevard right here.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, that would be great. Kaylin Da Boulevard.

[Connor]

Boom.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, that is a great street name. I mean, that would be fantastic. Let's go back to the Big Ten. You talk about the sec, how there might be some things underneath the shark kills. You know, obviously in the south, very competitive for every recruit. A lot of recruits from the South. We understand that the north has the national championships and the north has a lot of money. Let's go to a school that seemingly has more than anybody could imagine or anybody actually gives them credit for. Go ahead, A.J.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Yeah, Josh. Penn State obviously feels like they're all in. Everyone's talking about him. Everything they're doing, the resources, whatever. Everything about it is James Franklin is this the year he finds a way to go and win those, those big prime time matchups? I guess that we've seen him kind of fall short in the past.

[Josh Pate]

It's the year he better do it. That's a weird kind of pressure, by the way. They're too pressure, but he's not.

[AJ Hawk]

They're not going to fire him.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Doesn't.

[AJ Hawk]

Right.

[Josh Pate]

It's a totally different kind of pressure. There's. There's the job security pressure, which is winner, you're fire hired. Then there's just flat out competitive pressure of I could be the Penn State coach for the next 30 years. I won't be able to win championships all those 30 years. This is a year I could win a championship and I don't know when it's going to come around again. Maybe I'm wrong, man. Maybe they could do it every year. But I do view this as sort of a window year. Look, they're embracing it. They're all in on it. We went up there a couple of weeks ago. They are not shying away from that at all. They went and hit the portal for receivers, which, and I agree with them on this, they thought was the one missing link between them and being dynamic enough to make plays like Miami did last night. Just a few plays. 5050 balls turn into 7,030 balls. You win 2317 on the road in Columbus. One of these times. I think they have the pieces. They're smart, by the way, while all the rest of these folks have bullets flying left and right. They're up there playing Nevada, favored by 5 pounds. They got a couple of. They got a couple of tuneup. Then they got a by week. Then they got Oregon coming In there.

[AJ Hawk]

Got a preseason boys that's smart. That almost makes that.

[Josh Pate]

You got to win that game. It's the Ohio State game down the road, and you're going to go to the playoff no matter what. I have no idea how Penn State misses the playoff, but there's like two hurdles he's got to clear. One of them is winning those big games. The other one is at least getting to the national title game. And at that point, you got to win it. I don't know. But, yeah, I do think they got the mixture of talent to do it.

[AJ Hawk]

I like Drew Aller bouncing back and playing well instead of crumbling, you know, like, that sucks that that's how his season ended last year in the biggest moment. A lot of eyes. I forget what the ratings were, but it was at least 13, 14 million people.

[Connor]

Huge.

[AJ Hawk]

Watching him throw a terrible ball game, probably. Yeah. I mean, that is. They should have won that. I mean, and then he's got to sit all off season up there in Penn State, walking around, going to class. Oh, there's a big, tall dip.

[Connor]

You blew it.

[AJ Hawk]

Thanks.

[Connor]

You working on your stuff?

[AJ Hawk]

He's trying. He's trying to go out and have a drink at one of these restaurants. All these restaurants are right on top of each other. Obviously. Happy Valley, very, you know, kind of a smaller area. He gets out, just gets done having a little bit, maybe a Sai bowl or something like that. Hey, why don't you stop eating and go practice throwing a football? That's happening every day of his life afterwards, as somebody can speak kind of from experience. And it's like, which way do you go? It's like, if he steps up, that's huge. There's a quarterback, though, for South Carolina that every football team in America is looking to get to him. I saw a lot of NFL teams pulling for him. I also saw some XFL teams pulling for him. I think even some G1 teams were trying to get him to potentially lead the way. Go ahead, Conrad.

[Connor]

Yeah, Josh and I can't believe you just did the whole F1 thing. That is not a real sport. We're never talking about. Don't be disrespectful, Josh.

[AJ Hawk]

Who won?

[Chef D]

Who won Oscar P. No one cares.

[AJ Hawk]

Josh, let's talk about football. Josh. Hey, Josh. Josh.

[Connor]

Josh. Just me and you here. Lenore Sellers. Okay. On Sunday, kind of let off the entire game against Virginia Tech. They walk right down. He looks massive, he looks fast, and he threw the ball about 100 yards to nick harbor in the air. Why shouldn't I believe that Lenore Sellers is going to win the Heisman. And why isn't South Carolina being talked about as one of these teams that is going to compete for a national championship? I know they're definitely being taught about as a playoff team, but when we're talking those, you know, top four teams. Do you see South Carolina making that run this year?

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, they can. I mean, that's just foreign language. People have this preconceived notion in their mind, frankly, about a lot of programs that they need to reprogram because the sport has changed. And so when you get an alien as your quarterback, you got another one out wide, by the way. I mean, when your fastest player on the field, 65235 and spells his name Nick with a Y, you just need to pay attention to him. So that guy has learned to catch the football now. Now, which was so funny. Like what.

[AJ Hawk]

What?

[Josh Pate]

You asked the key about Nick Harbert, wide receiver. What does he need to learn to do? Dude, if he can learn to catch, man, he's gonna be. He's gonna be nasty. Well, you learn to catch all American track.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, you got.

[Josh Pate]

You got Lenor Sellers, who. I know a lot of people are doing the NFL draft talk like, I stick to college football. I think he could be the best player in college football. They may have the best offensive and defensive players, respectively, in the sec. This is not Alabama or Georgia. This is the University of South Carolina. Carolina that we're talking about. And they. They knew they had them. My only question throughout spring is, why didn't they go attack the portal at wide receiver? More like, who do they have behind Harvard? So to answer your question, the thing that would keep him from winning the Heisman is supporting cast. But as the deeper we got into fall camp, all these people from South Carolina, they kept telling me, you watch out. Now, our wide receiver rooms underrated week one. I don't necessarily know that I saw that. But that's okay. It's week one. If even a fraction of what they said is true.

[AJ Hawk]

True.

[Josh Pate]

And that dude just is who he is, you're looking at probably the Heisman Trophy winner this year. And if that's the case, you got a. You got a ceiling on South Carolina that's way, like up here off the screen somewhere. Someone's going to have to deal with them. If they don't win it, someone has to have beaten them. And it's just crazy. We're talking about South Carolina like this. They haven't hit their ceiling, by the way. That was. That was A week one version of them. So there's probably still some upward mobility with them as well. Well, and that's a place that's gotten told forever. Those are players that got told we don't quite have room for you here. So go to option B. Like South Carolina was an option B for some of these guys. Those defensive guys that went in the draft last year, those weren't all former five star top ten guys. Those were other teams, backup options that Shane Beamer and his staff took, developed them, pumped them to the NFL and now lo and behold, they've backfilled which you're not supposed to be able to do at South Carolina. And they, they show shut a fairly good desperate ACC team down week one. So now they dive into conference play. And now, now that's just another of those teams. Stack of pancakes of these teams in the SEC that they may not be elite but they're really good and they're tough out.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. And all we're going to hear is you SEC people talk about, oh, you're telling me South Carolina, our sixth best team couldn't beat the six best team in the Big Ten? Is that what you're saying? Why don't you come on down here and play Stoops in Kentucky at night. They we'll go to Northwestern one of these games and then you guys come down here to Kentucky one night. That's what we'll do. We'll play a fun little game and that'll happen all year. But the South Carolina team, remember end of the year they had a little bit of a gripe to get in the playoffs and instead of making big noise, Shane Beamer said, we're just focused on our bowl game. They had all of everybody play in the bowl game. It wasn't like they weren't going to play Shane Beamer. We showed that the punt return there. It's like they're always going to play Beamer ball in all three phases, which you can steal a win in college ball or you can lose a game in college ball through special teams. And it's like they're going to be locked in there because they have so many great athletes in the state of South Carolina. Creates some freaks whenever you talk about athletic ability. So if Shane Beamer can become the school of the Carolinas, especially down there with in front of a great fan base when we were down there, I mean it's hot as is thick down atmosphere. It is very thick football town though. But it's, it is a football cocktown.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Is A football town down there. I hope they're able to pull it off. That moment between Shane and Frank afterwards was beautiful. All right, let's talk about tonight's game. Obviously, week one wraps up in Chapel Bill. Go ahead. Debudge.

[Chef D]

Yeah, go up to North Carolina. I expect, you know, Bill Belichick team to be prepared. What I don't know is who these players are. I know 70 new players, but what are the expectations for this roster? And can you tell me something about some of these players on this Chapel Bill roster? And we'll see Don that that baby blue tonight.

[Josh Pate]

All right, everyone check in here. This is your North Carolina breakdown, okay? I got no clue. I have no clue who any of them are. I'm not sure if that's new to espn.

[AJ Hawk]

This is not what he's normally like. He normally has all the answers. He normally has all the. I want people to know that. That are watching for the first time. Maybe not a lot of people may be seeing Josh bait for the first time, as you've seen thus far, has all the answers. Very well versed in all things college ball. Now, when this pops up here, one of the biggest conversations of the week. One season only game tonight, only one on Monday Night Football here. That's it. Okay. He says, let me tell you, I got nothing. I don't think anybody does, though. Josh. Is that kind of the thing.

[Josh Pate]

That's. Look, if I flash carded that roster in front of that coaching staff, do you think even they're just all those names?

[Chef D]

Absolutely not.

[AJ Hawk]

Tcu.

[Josh Pate]

TCU is one of however many teams are in the Big 12. Every one of them thinks they can win that league. TCU is one of them. They're one of these teams that, you know, like the sneaky, better types out there that are getting down legit money in May on team totals. They were big on tcu and most people don't know anything about them either. I happen to know a little more about tcu. It's a perfect stage for them. It's going to be all about Bill Belichick, all about North Carolina. Like, this is the one shot that a Big 12 team gets on a real, real premier eyes of the world stage on it. And North Carolina is such an enigma, but yet I watched Matt Patricia do what he did the other night. So it's not like I'm sitting here dumb enough to say, oh, I don't know Belichick. I don't know if he can coach these college kids. I just don't know the caliber kid he Has. Patricia's got freaks everywhere. I don't know that Bill Belichick necessarily is dealing with that in year one at North Carolina.

[AJ Hawk]

All right, well, we'll watch tonight, part of the Kickoff Show. Can't wait to get down there.

[Chef D]

We'll all find out.

[AJ Hawk]

We will all find out, and we will judge accordingly.

[Connor]

Is there any down there?

[AJ Hawk]

What? I don't know. I hope so. At night one, Ernie will be downer. He'll be. Yeah, he'll be dying. I think Lombardi and Ernie both on headsets. Yeah, for sure. I'm gonna both.

[Connor]

It'll be good to see, though, in a blimp, maybe.

[AJ Hawk]

Hey, did you see that cow kid? He's the one Sagola today.

[Josh Pate]

It's tough to pronounce Sagapola tonight.

[AJ Hawk]

La.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah, it's tough for me. He's good, though.

[AJ Hawk]

Everybody was good.

[Josh Pate]

They all keep saying. They all keep saying the cow kid. And I kept saying, no, if you're so high on him, say his name. No, no, no, no. Just the cow kid. That's all you need to know. This cow kids dominate. Yeah, I. He was the talk of the late night. He was the talk of the late night, for sure.

[AJ Hawk]

Very late. He wasn't the only one. Did you see Dampier for Utah, too? He won for 19 rushing touchdowns last year with New Mexico.

[Josh Pate]

Y' all are doing. Are y' all going to Oklahoma Saturday, right?

[AJ Hawk]

Yes, sir.

[Josh Pate]

Okay. So that was the talk. Like, you get Matier and you get his offensive coordinator and you package them up. Utah did the same thing. It was just. They went to New Mexico and got the coordinator and the quarterback combo, and no one really paid attention to it. Utah looks like the best team in the Big 12. Like, they went out there and just balled out. Everyone saw Whittingham lose one year, and they said, oh, he's done ride his Harley off into the sunset. Maybe he'll retire. And he's like, no, I think I'm gonna stick with it a few more years.

[AJ Hawk]

Years.

[Josh Pate]

I don't really feel like retiring yet. I'm gonna go get a coordinator and a quarterback from New Mexico, and I'm gonna be right back in the picture. And they are.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I mean, they're in West Virginia's conference, you know, and Arizona State obviously has got to do what they got to do. And let's not even talk about the Cougs, which are right down the road. That's going to be quite a battle. But he was awesome to watch. Where to start? The Incarnate Word right Didn't their OC and quarterback get hired first?

[Tone]

Yeah. And then I believe. Where did they go?

[AJ Hawk]

Was that Washington State with camp and then.

[Tone]

Yeah, they went down there. And then last year with Diego Pavia. That worked out really well for Vandy. It's happened. Who did UTSA bring someone up to Oregon too.

[AJ Hawk]

Nil. But for the OC as well.

[Connor]

It's genius.

[AJ Hawk]

Yes. Yeah, it's. It's. Well, look like you've done pretty good job, Donner. Congratulations. Welcome to the big leagues. Come on up here. It's like what the Knicks were doing to everybody else in the NBA, but happening in big time college ball versus small time college teams. You got to watch yourself.

[Josh Pate]

You.

[AJ Hawk]

You can't even develop your coordinators too good. I know. They'll be gone.

[Josh Pate]

I love this.

[Connor]

Can't let them talk.

[Tone]

It's the best move in col.

[AJ Hawk]

These things like to gossip.

[Connor]

Yeah, these things like to gossip. These things like to hang out. You can't let them hang out. You gotta.

[AJ Hawk]

You gotta keep them isolated in their caves. Yeah, yeah.

[Connor]

Keep them away from each other.

[AJ Hawk]

Keep them in their case.

[Connor]

They'll start talking and they'll leave you together.

[AJ Hawk]

All right. Josh, we appreciate you, man. Congrats on the espn. More of the world needs to see you. You're good at what you do and you obviously love ball, so we appreciate that.

[Josh Pate]

You know I appreciate you, man. Anytime. I appreciate you having me.

[AJ Hawk]

Ladies and gentlemen, Josh P.

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[AJ Hawk]

Gatorade is the number one proven electrolyte blend designed to hydrate better than water so you can lose more sweat and raise your game. Gatorade. Is it in you? If I was to flashcard that roster to those coaches, you think I get it right? That's a great call. That's a great call. Bill Belichick just calling numbers. He's number they didn't even have.

[Connor]

Yeah, right.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't know.

[Connor]

He was wearing a different.

[AJ Hawk]

That had to be something. Was that in that article? That 8 scroller?

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't know that there wasn't much about that. No.

[AJ Hawk]

Connor, what do you have to say here about Jose Cuervo?

[Connor]

To be completely honest with you, I drank Jose Cuervo all weekend. It was the greatest thing ever and I didn't even get hungover.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, Devil's Reserve is the perfect drink for when mischief is on May.

[Connor]

Amen.

[AJ Hawk]

It's time to listen to a little devil on your shoulder. Pour around shots. Get ready to raise a little. Hell yeah. Stand right there.

[Connor]

Let's go.

[AJ Hawk]

This is. This is my first time. Okay. This is my first time reading. I feel like. I feel like an Ron Burgundy right now reading this.

[Connor]

Yeah, he'll read anything on the to.

[AJ Hawk]

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[Josh Pate]

Hell yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Devil's Reserve. Go to your local liquor store. Go to Cuervo.com to purchase your own bottle of Mischief. Okay. I'll tell you what. They're sweet bottle of Mission.

[Tone]

They're tropical raising hell.

[AJ Hawk]

I was gonna say that's an interesting.

[Ty Schmidt]

Way to go about that, but I.

[Josh Pate]

Like like it serving.

[AJ Hawk]

What's that?

[Chef D]

It's probably what they're serving in Kennywood.

[AJ Hawk]

Sweet drop going that last one spicy. Yeah, Kenny was a little spicy. Late night. I don't know if you saw that. It's all over X. You just go ahead and type Kennywood and then it'll pop up. A lot of yinzers letting each other know that they weren't happy about the disrespect that you certainly showed. While we're in ride for.

[Tone]

I hope this doesn't ruin Fright Nights.

[Josh Pate]

Cuz I'll be so mad.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. When I thought you went last year, right? Stand on Fright Nights. Yeah, I go over here. Really?

[Connor]

What's your favorite part?

[Tone]

I go for my daughter here.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Cool.

[Connor]

You guys drive over there for it on like Friday or Saturdays in two weeks.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, there's actually about to be potentially a direct flight.

[Connor]

Is that right?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. If we do recall.

[Connor]

Yeah. I'm more worried about the one in Nashville.

[AJ Hawk]

Huh. Says who? Just know. We know people.

[Josh Pate]

So long.

[AJ Hawk]

We know people. Ladies and gentlemen. We didn't get to it earlier, but we got to get to to it. We watch all the games. You watch all the games this weekend? H. We try to.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Yep. Oh yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Watch all the world. Everything's going on world.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Yeah, there's a lot going on.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. We tried to. We try to watch it all and we Gathered up what we thought would be the greatest GE Louise moment of the weekend. Because we don't want to, you know, just kind of handcuff ourselves to just one moment. Correct. So if there's more than one moment moment, we'll do the moment, but if not, we'll just do the Geez Louise moment of the weekend. Ladies and gentlemen, stop right in. You might have seen it. New Mexico guard Richard Pierce, they call him Dick Pierce, running away after starting a little bit of a brawl with Michigan. You see him in the middle of a father 78, little late push. After they push him back, he goes, whoa, whoa. Stumbles, falls all over his face, gets the hell out of there. I appreciate it. He said, I'm not fighting. I'm fighting. I did one cheap shot after the play. I'm not doing all the other stuff. AJ how do you feel about Richard Pearson? Do you think the next play or maybe the next play after that or another time down the road today, Earhole this guy. How would you have reacted here?

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Yeah, I'm sure they tried. I mean, this is nice. You always get the flag when you retaliate. So if you're the first person and then you let them retaliate, hopefully they get the flag and then returns and runs. That's the best your. I've never seen one turn their back on a guy.

[AJ Hawk]

Hey, not a bad hip flip.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, not at all.

[AJ Hawk]

Not a bad hip flip. Debut your thoughts here?

[Chef D]

I mean, he got to pick him up, put him down a little bit. He almost stumbled. But, I mean, if you're gonna do it, stand in there and take the push. You know, get the penalty. You know, if you go.

[Connor]

Turn away to go.

[AJ Hawk]

Did you hear what he said as he turned around? He said, jeez, let's go to the next one here. Brian Kelly did a backfall and a full roll. Getting trucked by a ref. Smacks his head off the ground, loses his headset, wants to chew out the ref. Then he quickly realizes he's in the wrong. I'm not supposed to be standing in the white ref, not throwing a flag on him. Very cool of the ref. I think the ref saw Brian Kelly's face tumbling around and said he suffered enough. We don't need to give another 15. Our source have told us that Brian Kelly went in for an MRI this morning. Morning. Real talk, real source. Tease and peas. Brian Kelly. Congrats on a win. We hope you're okay in our last J's of the weekend. Comes from a Duck, a mascot. Montana State taking on Oregon before he even gets on the air organ Duck face plants loses his head and everybody loses their shit. Now, there was an alternate angle from the backside here. What do you think? Why work?

[Connor]

It's closed.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

I don't think it's, I don't think it's a work.

[Chef D]

He cares too much.

[AJ Hawk]

Full panic afterwards. We hope he's okay. Some would say it's a bad omen. The Oregon Ducks football team didn't even know what happened.

[Chef D]

Nope.

[AJ Hawk]

Steamrolled. Kept it moving. Clip to that thing. And that's our. You would think they would. Yeah. Seems like maybe it was. Nope. Jeez Louise. Moment of the weekend. We continue on digital, but not for long because we got to hit the road to get down to North Carolina. Have a great happy and happy Labor Day. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Yeah, we got to get down to Chapel Hill pretty soon.

[Ty Schmidt]

Chapel Bill, if you will.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

You have Michael Jordan on the show.

[AJ Hawk]

He's going to be on ESPN tonight, I guess, really soon.

[Connor]

Idea.

[Tone]

AJ we're in the watching it. We get to watch in the box with Blombo, right?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Do we get a headset? I don't know.

[Tone]

That's what I think.

[AJ Hawk]

Right.

[Connor]

I'm wondering, I'm assuming you guys might get a, a couple. Hey, let's try the 70 power here.

[AJ Hawk]

We're calling plays.

[Connor]

I'm thinking you're gonna remember this is.

[AJ Hawk]

A Belichick coach team. He's tattooed on your arm still.

[Connor]

I know, but the when I got this tattoo. There's a lot of different things about Bill that are true today. But again, I, I, I do think.

[AJ Hawk]

To your point, that's pretty sweet, tropical and spicy.

[Connor]

Amen. And the times with Bill were sweet, tropical and spicy, baby. But now I do think, think there is a massive chance that, you know, this, this run mobile quarterback Bill's got Lopez. They're going to be doing some crazy with this guy because Bill's always wanted a mobile quarterback.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. I mean they had Cam Newton. A lot of people were saying we're watching back what he did with Cam. Cam I think would even admit that wasn't the fullest Super Cam Cam was a superman on the field. Dude. I watched some of these guys and obviously everybody wants to compare everybody Josh Allen as you should. Josh Allen. Allen unbelievable football player as well. Cam Newton was just, he was a defensive end like Josh, not Josh Allen isn't very tall and very athletic and very strong and everything like that. Cam Newton was a D end, clearly that his body was made to be a defensive end, and he just so happened to also be the fastest defensive end that was ever. And it's just. And, oh, yeah, he can dissect the defense, and he has a work ethic, and he's a phenomenal leader. And it's like. Like, yeah, me and Ven. He walked by preseason. I think it was preseason or early in season. He walked by his rookie year. And we both just say, if that guy could figure out football, we are done.

[Tone]

He's one of those guys.

[AJ Hawk]

We are absolutely done. And he did. He did figure it out.

[Tone]

He's one of those guys that's a big guy that when stands next to other big guys, looks bigger than those big guys.

[Chef D]

Yep.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. People are talking about him like, he's not who he is right now, though, too. There's a lot of things being said about Cam, and it's like, won an mvp. You ever seen him in real life, too? I don't think he'd be saying as much as you're saying right now. Everybody's doing this. Damn, dude.

[Connor]

He gets you, too. We've seen it at the camps.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. He's not scared to throw down.

[Connor]

Not.

[AJ Hawk]

He's about it.

[Connor]

Sellers. That was your big thing with Sellers.

[AJ Hawk]

Sellers was the big boy. Huge this weekend. If you're huge. I think that's why I like Drew Aller so much. Drew. Will Howard. That's why I like Will Howard so much. Especially whenever you're talking about going from college. The NFL. Like, I think you have to be big like Drew Brees. I. Hey, Kyler Murray. These are anomalies.

[Tone]

More power to.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, these are incorrect. Incredible. Incredible athletes and players and everything like that. But if you're big, you can see first of all, which is a pretty big, massive thing. But you can also absorb more, and you're gonna get hit like in the NFL, unless you're Peyton Eli Tom, who had an incredible ability to. Hey, you know, literally just going out. Nope. Which not a lot of guys these days are ever going to do because the mobile quarterback is such a thing. It's like. Yeah, what Cam was. Was. He was special, man. He. He was special.

[Connor]

That's a great point about the NFL now, though, we. We don't get any more of the, like, cool, like, ball snapped. DND wins quarterback. Instead of throwing it away or trying to run away, just goes down into a ball like that.

[AJ Hawk]

That literally looked like they were screaming.

[Connor]

Yeah, that error is done.

[AJ Hawk]

Johnny Hecker had one of those. The punter I forget who. He pushed somebody. He was punting. He was jogging backfield. Then he pushed somebody. Remember Elvis Dum. That person came running back and the full. You could hear through the video. I was like, man, I would have done the same thing. I would have. I mean, you chose to push him. You set that up there. I don't know if that would have been the play. And as soon as you push that guy, eyes are not leaving him.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, right.

[AJ Hawk]

That is. That is not.

[Josh Pate]

It was Cliff Averil.

[AJ Hawk]

Cliff Averil. Yeah. Okay. Pretty good. Pretty good. He's a dog, too. Pretty strong. Yeah. And. All right, let's go. Wrap up college football tonight, aj. Congrats to your Buckeyes, dude. That was cool. Seeing over there.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

It was. Hey, I, I. It was great atmosphere. I don't know how you felt, but. Yeah, like, it was. It was awesome. The, the Lee Corso thing, like, I'm glad it worked out how it did. I really, I didn't know how, how. Well, it would shout out to the.

[AJ Hawk]

Production crew that built a second desk and then also on wheels moved it and had the tech work.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Think of the pressure on them. Like, if you think about the. To move the whole set and then to get it all to work too, like, there is no time to wait.

[AJ Hawk]

Well, then your band. Yeah. As soon as that Corso tribute is over, they're doing the script, Ohio. And it's like they literally have no idea what's happening on Earth other than what's two inches in front of their face. They are just watching each other. And the only reason why I know that is because they were like, kind of. Kind of. If you had to go up a hill on a bicycle, which you would do, like, kind of back, back and forth, I guess, to kind of do this. And they were making their way to us, and Coach Corso was getting off the stage at the time. And I'm like, holy shit. Like, this is because they said immediately afterwards, the band's coming and they need the whole field. You guys got a little bit of time, but you need to get out of the way. That was like a big message as we were leaving a production meeting. And then as we're getting off, you. Everybody's bullshitting because it was so cool. What a moment. Taking pictures. That delayed it getting off the stage. That delayed to getting off stage. So now we had a short amount of time. It got shortened even more by the. Of everybody being so happy that it worked. And then I get off and I see that band coming, and I see Coach Corso literally just like kind of starting to get off the stage. I'm like, holy. How's this going to work? You know? Like, is the Ohio, the Tobital going to stop?

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

No, no. Once they get started.

[Chef D]

Yeah. What we learned about band members this weekend, they. They get out of their way.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Chef D]

Talking about they got out of their way. Coach, you too.

[AJ (Ohio State fan)]

Get out of Tuba guy.

[Chef D]

Get out of your way.

[AJ Hawk]

The band's real deal dogs. West Virginia has a good band. I'll never forget. I was flying back from the Fiesta bowl cuz you get a. I forget the amount of money you get per mile if you drove. We played in Arizona, so I drove back home, of course. Gimmick.

[Connor]

Holy. Yeah. That sucks.

[AJ Hawk]

No, you take the money.

[Chef D]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

You buy a plane ticket, the cheapest plane ticket, and you fly back. Yeah. So you get like 1800 bucks. You pay 300 ticket, 250 ticket. Now all of a sudden we got 1500 extra bucks. I can't. The game now. Yeah, we're going downtown. Yeah, that was the game. Okay. Yeah. We're driving back. They're gonna pay us for every single mile I have fear planes, whatever the it is, who knows? And I get on the planet and I'm in the back and I look like a standard white. You know, just pretty casual standard. I think at that time a lot of people knew they wanted to kill me. But not everybody kind of knew me at that time. And I'm sitting next to a West Virginia fan and there was a couple football players scattered throughout. I mean, we all kind of did the game, you know. And I asked the lady, I said, were you out here for the Fiesta Bowl? And she goes, yeah. I go, well, how'd it go? You know? And she was like, the band did amazing. The band absolutely trusted. And then she said, and the team won. So that was good. And I was like, that's awesome. Okay. Like obviously a family member of bandwidth. And it was like literally go to the game. How to bando it. Murdered it. Halftime. No flubs, kept it moving, crushed it. And I was like, that was really cool to hear because I think you do. And you should think of that. Of like every performance should be our greatest and we should steal the show. And I think there's some bands you watch. It's like this. These are. It's like the tabito is definitely. Everybody's locked in. It's no doubt about it. Big production, them spelling out corso straight in this. I mean, it's like the amount of. The amount of this that they're doing. They used to practice. I think it was Plum High school. They did. On a soccer field. They practiced on a soccer field.

[Josh Pate]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

And it just became trenches because they're. They like. I think our entire practice field just got ruined. Ruined. Just completely ruined. And it was like we didn't think this through, I guess, cuz they were practicing a parking lot. It was too hot. So they gave him a practice field to march on and by like a weekend. It was just literally just paths we don't even have. We have a cornfield here, basically. We should put some seat. Because of how like militant they eventually.

[Tone]

Were able to practice in the football field.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, you guys were kicking them off, huh? That's why I came. We practiced.

[Tone]

I don't know what to tell you.

[AJ Hawk]

We did too. We were running over. You know what I mean? Balls rolling on the ground, balls rolling on speed bumps. It's like, oh, are they drawing a goddamn horse or whatever, you know, it was a whole. It's pretty impressive. That's just high school. So I got respect for the band also. If they're going to throw some rights. I like that.

[Connor]

Need more of that.

[AJ Hawk]

I like if we're fighting out there. All right, let's get down to unc. Let's wrap up week one. I think Reese Davis and Herb Shooter on the call.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Chef D]

Nice.

[AJ Hawk]

That'll be a good call. Me, I think saving gonna be done there. Dead's gonna be done there.

[Connor]

Got all those.

[AJ Hawk]

I wonder who's hosting. Yeah, I don't know. Is the other guy gonna be there? I assume.

[Connor]

He better be. I'll be on the other channel.

[AJ Hawk]

Hey, will you FaceTime him real quick? Will you FaceTime Steve the other guy here? I'll FaceTime him. Just see what I'm walking into down here at least. Hey, who's all down here?

[Connor]

Steve, Outer D guy hosting.

[Ty Schmidt]

He better have a UNC polo on.

[Connor]

I know if he don't.

[AJ Hawk]

We're live. We're live. We're live. You're live. I was just watching you. Yeah, we're live. We're live. We're still live, though. People are watching. Not on ESPN2 anymore. Are you down in North Carolina or no? Yeah, yeah, I'm down here. I'll see you tonight, buddy. Who's hosting? Is Reese hosting? How's that going? Are you hosting? I was going to host, but I think Matt Barry's here. Okay, okay. Sick, sick, sick. All right, I'll see you down there in a little bit. I'm about to hop on a plane all six teams that play in those top 10 matchups are still going to make the playoff.

[Ty Schmidt]

Love it.

[Connor]

Hell, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Hey, the winners and the other guys. All right.

[Connor]

We'll see.

[AJ Hawk]

We'll see. Let's see.

[Connor]

We'll see.

[AJ Hawk]

All right. S. Okay. Cool. Matt Barry. There you go. Oh, I cannot wait.

[Tone]

Other guy would have been great, though.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. I mean, Matt Barry. This is my first time working live with Matt Perry, right? Yes, I think so. I watch him in tg. Yeah. Tg. Yeah.

[Chef D]

Oh, have you seen a European team?

[AJ Hawk]

Ryder cup their ass. Thanks.

[Chef D]

They are, but I just want to.

[AJ Hawk]

Know if you've seen them, are they good?

[Ty Schmidt]

They got a pretty good squad.

[AJ Hawk]

Pretty good.

[Ty Schmidt]

They got a pretty good squad. Yeah.

[Connor]

Yeah. But they left off the guy that cares the most. You see the guy on the DP.

[Adam Schefter]

World tour.

[Connor]

I think his name is. I want to say, Matt Wallace, and he gave an interview, and I don't think I've ever seen someone that emotional about not making it.

[AJ Hawk]

William Wallace's boy is going to have energy.

[Connor]

Exactly.

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, at a. Certainly to be a thing.

[Connor]

After watching the interview, I thought, oh, okay, so USA is going to win because they left this guy off the team, and this guy wants to win more than anybody.

[AJ Hawk]

You. You saw the European team and got a little nervous?

[Chef D]

No, I didn't get nervous. It was just, you know, just saw the name of the players, the Zoom Calls. That was funny to see.

[Tone]

They're a deep team.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Chef D]

Their team on the Zoom Call and our team.

[AJ Hawk]

Which team did you like more?

[Chef D]

Our. Our team had their game faces on. So I go the Europeans.

[AJ Hawk]

Much more entertainment. I sound a little like.

[Connor]

Which is why they called us up for World War I and 2.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. And also, I assume their continent togetherness isn't as good as a country. No, it's not.

[Connor]

No doubt.

[AJ Hawk]

You know, they just feel like they're taking on us. We feel like we're fighting the world. Yeah.

[Tone]

No one says for God. Incontinent.

[Ty Schmidt]

Good point.

[AJ Hawk]

Great point.

[Tone]

God and country, brother.

[AJ Hawk]

Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in the same together. We're heading down. North Carolina should be a blast. Team up. Me team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.

[Tone]

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[AJ Hawk]

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[AJ Hawk]

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