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Pat McAfee
People, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this NFL Week 2 kickoff Thursday, September 11, 2025. This program begins now. Football is happening on this September 11, 2025. And I am an old man, and I happen to be at an age of, you know, memory and remembering whatever September 11, 2001, took place 24 years ago. I was in high school, and obviously it was a devastating day. It was a crazy day. It changed this world, not just here, but obviously around the globe as a whole. And what I remember about that, and we will never forget all the lives that were lost and all the badasses that ran towards fire and buildings collapsing and the heroes that stepped up amongst us in the middle of the crazed, terrible chaos that was taking place in our biggest city. And then, I'm from Pittsburgh. There was a plane that went down outside of our city, and then obviously, the Pentagon had a plane hit it as well. And it was just a bunch of news, and it was crazy. I don't think any of us fully understood what was happening, but I do remember on September 12, 2001, it felt like our entire country, no matter what you believed, no matter where you were from, we were all together as one. We're unified more than I think I have ever witnessed in my entire 38 years of existing. And I think that is something that a lot of people that were able to live through it who, you know, believe in the good of people instead of the bad of people, we hope that we'll be able to get to that level of unification in our society at some point yet again. It's almost like we're chasing that in hopes that we can be. You know, I don't want to say everybody has to get along and everybody has to agree, but at least we can move forward without hating each other, which is seemingly what social media has done to us in a way that I don't know if anybody could have predicted. Whenever we thought that the entire world should be connected in the palm of their hands, now it feels like there's a lot of people that get satisfaction as being known as the most something, the most this, the most that. And whenever people try to compete on who's the meanest to the other side of the aisle, I think you're going to inevitably run into some chaos happening in our world. And I am not a politics person. I've been dropped into the political world a couple different times by my own mistakes, but also because of my own opinions. And it's a blender over there. And to Be a person that wants to go in and stand on your beliefs and try to change the world and have the courage to do so and also welcome and embrace debate in that world with how much anger there is, I think is a pretty admirable trait to have. So although I did not know Charlie Kirk, I certainly saw his clips from afar. I thought he was a crazy person for embracing and welcoming the interactions that he wanted on the topics that he believed so mightily in. But I also believe that he believed in what he was doing was making the world better. And I think the people that are willing to hear the other side and maybe extend a hand and maybe change their own opinion are the people that we should be modeling ourselves after. I am not always right. I am a doomfus. I am an idiot that talks about sports, but I love hearing other people's ideas on things. Now, I am not in the politics world and I know there's much more serious things out there, but in the sports lane that I live in, it is nice to hear the other side. So when I learned of Charlie Kirk on the Internet, and once again, I did not meet him, I did not know him personally, I thought it was admirable to hear somebody who was so firm in their own beliefs, but wanted to hear why other people were against him. So yesterday, whenever we see a public execution of this man happen in all of our palms of our hands in real time, you can't help but wonder, damn, first of all, he has a family, he has kids. But also, are we a society that's really going to become that? Is that who we are? Is that what we're going to be? Just strictly because we think that we're better than the other side? It's become a wild time, I think, in our existence and hopefully yesterday was a pivotal moment for us on this September 11, 2025, to maybe have a September 12, 2001 moment. So that's my thoughts, positive vibes, prayers to his family and friends that have been there, but also I hope, to our entire society, like, yo, you can disagree with people, you can disagree with people and you don't have to hate them or have disdain for them forever. You have. Everybody has different backgrounds. I grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Somebody that grew up in Miami or South Florida is going to have different views on shit. I would assume somebody that grew up in Compton, California, who I've had the chance, an opportunity to hang around and get to know people probably have a little bit of a different view on things. And maybe people that grew up in Columbus, Ohio. I mean, we're never going to all agree, but we all have to exist and we might as well try to shake the hand and hear from the other side more so than try to fight them every single time. And I think even though you might not have believed in or felt the same way that Charlie Kirk felt about a lot of things, and I'm not saying anybody on this set agrees with everything that anybody believes in this whole world. We can't just hate people forever because we disagree with one thing or two things that they feel. We gotta move forward. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three, team. Our jobs are to distract people from the real world and kind of make a little bit of levity and maybe let you know and kind of reconfirm the fact that there's good shit happening in this world, there's good people in this world, there's great things in this world. And although, you know, one terrible thing or yesterday two terrible things happening, another school shooting in Colorado, obviously devastating all this. I have a daughter, 2 year old. Think about it all. It's like there's also a lot of good happening in this world. And although these terrible things happen, we hope that they all will not happen in the future. We can still understand that what we're doing right now, we're lucky to be alive. And there's good people out there trying to make it better. We hope and we wish them all good luck. And yesterday's a day that I think we're all going to remember forever. The toxic table is here. Austin Connor and I Schmidt one after the Hammer, Don Cowboys AP tone is here. Wild day. Obviously yesterday. Perspective putter for a lot of us, especially people that potentially speak for a living and also live on the Internet getting a chance to see that obviously wild. But tonight, week two of the NFL kicks off. We got a full college football slate this weekend that is incredible. Sports are about to deliver for us and bring us back to the ha. It is a badass time to be alive as well. Tonight, Washington commanders take on the Green Bay Packers. Jaden Daniels taking on Jordan Love. Michael Parsons. Is he going to wreck the game? Ty Schmidt, you obviously owner of the Green Bay packers. What are your thoughts on how tonight's going to go and is Lambo ready for these Washington Commanders fans to maybe infiltrate on a Thursday night football because they're excited about this team again?
Ty Schmidt
I don't know about that. I mean, I'm sure, you know, Commanders fans are going to be out in droves. I don't question that. But I think packers fans are going to show up, especially after Sunday. That's kind of the big thing, you know, the. The packers next to the Bills and maybe a few other stories. The Colts were kind of the talk of week one. It's like, hey, this team kind of feels like maybe a little bit of a juggernaut after one week. You know, we all expected the Lions to not, you know, drop off as much, losing both their coordinators. And then the, you know, the packers came out and just put belt to ass. And then, you know, the commanders on the other side, it's like, hey, this might be the year. I don't think last year was an aberration. I don't think the commanders got lucky. I mean, they won a bunch of close games, but Jaden Daniels is the real deal. He's unbelievable. And it is still a short week. Micah's not 100%. He's not going to play the whole game. The packers, potentially, we haven't heard, heard yet. They might have two starting offensive linemen down. So I'm very confident. But also more than that, like, what a treat getting this game as the first Thursday night game of the season. Like, here, Here we go. We are fully in it. I'm super excited for tonight.
Pat McAfee
Kirk and Al waiting for Thursday night. I think we'll have Kirk in the next hour. They obviously have production meetings throughout the day. It's their first one, so obviously this is going to be huge. They've done really well, I think, over the years. Yeah. Yeah. I think we'd like to commend the folks at Amazon who are just people that used to be at NFL Network and espn. Correct. Whenever they were initially hired to run Amazon's NFL Us as people that were considered outcasts by the sports media people. All of the suits, all of them, that entire generation of suits that finished. They just got new gigs now because there's new platforms that need to do football. Yeah. So as soon as these people all just leave the two networks, they were like, nah, we don't need anything with you, buddy. Sorry about it. Then they go to the new streaming platform. We had hopes, like, whoa, future's here. We got good things coming. And then all of a sudden, it's just, nope. Just same people here. And they were like, nah, all right. So naturally thought they were going to ruin it. Sure. Naturally. Just thought these people were going to do a terrible job. They did not. I think they've done a great job. It's gone off without a hitch. Very rarely. Unless your Internet potentially like a spike or a drop. There's been high quality, the, the stats and shit that they do. Great Touch has been a great addition to it all. I think people understand the world now of getting onto a platform and streaming a game a lot better than they did before. And I think it's been a good relationship. But to your point about it being a great first game, I think there is a chance at that. Wedding. Bezos wedding.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I think you might be right.
Pat McAfee
He's like, hey, Goodell, you. You want to give us a wedding gift? We shut down the whole fucking country here. Yeah. Why don't you give us some good games one time? Why don't you give us some. Some good games? I feel like the Thursday night success is going to happen strictly because of the relationship, I assume, but also because they're pretty much trailblazers in welcoming the NFL into this new era of streaming money and they've been grabbing it from Everybody. Oh yeah, YouTube, Netflix can get some. Yeah, absolutely. Amazon could do that. We got ESPN app. Is that a ESPN plus? No, it's the ESPN app. Well, what was ESPN plus? Well, that was. It's the espn. Okay, well, we want to do something there too. Don't. Yep.
Ty Schmidt
Peacock.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Pete. Oh, how you doing? That's a nice looking bird you got. Let those feathers fly. We'll do something there. You know, Amazon really did kind of kick it all off and I'm happy for them. I think they've done a fantastic job and their entire crew has done very well on the tv.
Boston Connor
Yeah, that's the other thing is that, you know, now we get commanders, packers and what is this, year three or year four of Kirk Canal. I forget when Thursday night primetime started, but boy, those two guys who have called, you know, Miracle on Ice and then you go to Kirk and you, you know, they're calling the biggest college football game every single Saturday night. They were doing the worst games of the week for one to two years with some of these primetime games on Amazon. It's nice that they also acknowledge, like, hey, this kicks off the entire weekend. Like you've talked about it before, the Thursday night game so important because it's like, hey, we're back. We had this two day hiatus after Monday Night Football. It's now, you know, the football time for the entire weekend. Not just NFL, college, high school, everything. It's starting here. And the fact that they're doing a game like this where, you know, it's two of the premier quarterbacks in the NFL like we always talk about, the primetime games stink when the teams don't have one of the better quarterbacks. Like why wouldn't they just put the best quarterbacks on primetime? And here we are, three and a half point spread, week one. You know, Kirk and Al's first game is two teams that were in the playoffs last year. Two teams that could win their division this year and be in the NFC championship. And we get that in September. It feels like Texas, Ohio State, like getting that week one damn shout out to football.
Pat McAfee
And also the NFL primetime games.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Have hit. They have certainly hit. Let's talk about the numbers tonight. Obviously we got one half of the hammer done. Cowboys AP Town. There's the tale of the tape record against the spread. They are good for the batters. Okay, how are you doing? We would like to ride with them. Total offensive yards now 432 to 266 to 46. Total yards allowed for the Green Bay Packers, 231 for the Commanders. Total points per game. There's only one game, 2721. If they were scored the exact same as they scored in Week 1, the.
A.J. Hawk
Score would be 2721.
Boston Connor
Packers cover.
Pat McAfee
And then opponents points per game. Oh, this commander's defense is stingy. Six points. That's all they're giving them. Who all is just. Is that an average of a bunch of teams or. That was just one game.
Ty Schmidt
That was just one game. It was the New York Football Giants.
Pat McAfee
Jesus.
Ty Schmidt
But a lot of people said going into the year this Giants team is who you need to look out for.
Pat McAfee
So a lot of people were telling.
Cowboys AP Tone
Us is Russell Wilson's here.
Pat McAfee
Six points. Bruce, what happened? I didn't know it was that bad. I saw the graphic and I was like six points. I think I just six points all off season. We've. We've been preparing all off season for this game. No, I mean it's terrible.
Ty Schmidt
It's the third straight season that the.
A.J. Hawk
Giants have not scored a touchdown in week one. We just show up, just show up.
Pat McAfee
Every single year and look like we.
Ty Schmidt
Got no idea how to play offense.
Pat McAfee
I'm already out on Russ.
A.J. Hawk
Give me Jameis, give me dart, Give.
Pat McAfee
Me, give me anybody that can get us towards the ed zone.
A.J. Hawk
But yeah, it was, it was an abysmal start.
Pat McAfee
Defensively, okay, we were talking about defensively, okay. I like that. Always going to have a good st over there. I like how we were talking about with the Indianapolis Colts. They haven't scored an opening drive of the opening game. Touchdown since 2006 or something like that. Bruce. Like we haven't scored a touchdown week one in the last three years. Think about that. The whole. The whole. They have they practice all offseason.
Ty Schmidt
That doesn't sound.
Pat McAfee
They're trying to figure it out.
Cowboys AP Tone
I know we love Dave all, but that doesn't. That doesn't shine brightly on him.
Pat McAfee
He's been looking for it.
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
Pat McAfee
And we saw on Hard Knocks what happened. The super bowl mvp. Yeah. Shipped out of town. He wanted to be back. Hey, we ain't got it for him. Well, somebody else does. Will you let me know who it is before? Sure. Eagles gone. We've seen it all in there. That place is crazy. This has been a must win season too. That's how it's been kind of heralded coming in for the New York Giants. So the first game didn't go your way, you guys would be all right. Maybe Jackson dart. He was ready to play. He was. I didn't like that he. I didn't like that he didn't get to play with how he looked. Sure. Now that I know you guys only scored six points at some point, day ball's got to look at that, see the ice, see the swag, the accessories and think that guy can at least get us four more points.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Maybe the defense will get two safeties because of this guy.
Boston Connor
That'd be cool.
Pat McAfee
You know, like I think that that has to happen at some point.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
We. We still can't block though. So that might be the heads of. Yeah.
Boston Connor
Was the commies defense good? Because I thought the big. I mean the big question mark coming in.
A.J. Hawk
Commander Dan Quinn hasn't much improved, I would say.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so let's talk about tonight. The gambling aspect of this evening. Obviously the sportsbooks have been winning by a lot. Okay. Sportsbooks have been winning by a lot thus far in all of football. The top five most bet bets each week for college football and for the NFL have all hit for the sports books in grotesque ways. 4 to 1, 4 to 1. 4 to 1, 4 to one. Sportsbook, sportsbook, sportsbook, sportsbook. Tonight, three and a half point spread in Lambeau. Tone, how's week two start? And what are the numbers saying right now about the gamblers and how they see the game going?
Cowboys AP Tone
Yeah, three and a half at ESPN bet. Other books have it at three. So if you were looking to take the Packers, I would search somewhere else for a better number. Just be a good gambler in that way. 59% of the tickets right now against the spread are on the commander's plus the three and a half. Which kind of surprised me because the packers looked so good in week one. The commanders looked really, really good as well. But I expected it just like the home team would get more action. But that's not how it is currently right now. And then Bruce and I looked at multiple sites.
Pat McAfee
What is this?
Cowboys AP Tone
I'm a little skeptic. It says 96 of the money is on the under. And maybe that's because who's it.
Pat McAfee
The Internet. Yeah. But what would be the place that would normally give this information?
Cowboys AP Tone
There's multiple websites. There's Action Network, there's covers, there's Yahoo.
Pat McAfee
Has a.
Cowboys AP Tone
Like a thing where you just. You go and you click on the game and some of them are just sponsored by a certain sports book. So the sports book feeds their. Like it could be like 96% at BetMGM or whatever, but it could be 70% at FanDuel. Like so it's.
Kirk Herbstreit
It's.
Cowboys AP Tone
It's kind of a flawed system. Like all polls are, you know.
Ty Schmidt
Sure.
Cowboys AP Tone
But it's normally generally decentralized as far as the against the spread is concerned. This is over under number is I.
Pat McAfee
96% on the under is wild. Because most football fans just want to see points anyways. Natural over betters we humans are. Which is a good thing about us, which we have to remember.
Ty Schmidt
Love.
Pat McAfee
We love that. We naturally think good. We naturally think, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to have success there. So 96 on the under. Is that strictly because maybe that's one sports book. Maybe it's only five betters. But also the trends right now, 12 and four to the under.
Cowboys AP Tone
That would be the only reason that I could think of this. Because primetime games are always bet over packers and commanders. Everyone knows they both have really good offenses. So normally this would be an over.
Pat McAfee
Bet for the general public and but tonight might be. Might be a cagey affair for a boys.
Boston Connor
The weather.
Pat McAfee
Maybe Micah going, what is the weather? Beautiful. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
I think we have a perfect night in Lambeau. I don't think.
Pat McAfee
What's the song. What's the song they sing over there? There's a.
Ty Schmidt
The Packer Polka.
Pat McAfee
Or maybe it was the Packer Poker. There's another song they played us in preseason. 150 something to nothing against us. And they played a song every time.
Cowboys AP Tone
Supposed to be 65 and just beautiful preseason.
Pat McAfee
It was like perfect. I think the sun was setting as we were playing. Oh yeah.
Boston Connor
Magical.
Pat McAfee
Everybody was still in there.
Ty Schmidt
Out of a postcard.
Pat McAfee
You guys were Pounding us. I mean, we had no shot. I still had to punt. Everybody's having a good time. Preseason game. I'm still having to go out there and hopefully not break my leg, but, boy, it was electric in there. I mean, it was. There's a song that they sing. It's a. It's a. I remember it because it was.
Boston Connor
Kept playing.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Unrelenting.
Pat McAfee
Play it again. Play it again. And that's basically what they were doing. That place is special, man. Yeah. That is a very special place. I'm excited. It's going to be the perfect night for football. You know the best truck down the line. Boom. Dodge ram truck. Hell, yeah. You know what we love about ram? They got the Hemi V8 back, fired up and get in on it. Motor trend has chosen a Ram 1500 as its Truck of the Year for 2025. Ram trucks are also back on the track in returning the NASCAR craftsman truck series for the 2026 season. Look at that. There's a hemi coming Back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back, back. To the NASCAR craftsman truck series.
Ty Schmidt
It's a big deal.
Pat McAfee
Huge.
Boston Connor
Love that series.
Pat McAfee
So when I'm about to buy a new truck, uh, there's always a lot of question marks. Why don't you fucking go see him race?
Cowboys AP Tone
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Let me see which one's the one. Yeah. Okay. Cause Toyota had a good run there. Remember? Toyota was. They almost took over our office. Yeah. Ford always old, steady. Yeah. F150, 350, 450. We can't get a 4500. Yeah, we can get that entire thing. You know, Then we started looking around, and we saw this ram truck, and they're like, excuse me, you own a 1500 here that rides on clouds but has enough pool and power to pull.
Cowboys AP Tone
Any fucking truck in the vastly superior machine.
Pat McAfee
Boom. And I said, yeah, let me check it out. Boy, it is great. Now they're going to have a chance to get on track with the boys. Wow. And win.
Ty Schmidt
Love that.
Pat McAfee
That used to be on the track, from what I've been told.
Ty Schmidt
In fact, somebody give an advantage.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Cowboys AP Tone
They were too good.
Pat McAfee
I don't know if they got kicked out for dub after dub after dub. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Must have been.
Pat McAfee
That might have been it. We have not looked into it. That. We don't know if that's true.
Ty Schmidt
That'd be my guess.
Pat McAfee
But now they're back. Okay. And you can watch that this weekend.
Ty Schmidt
Or whenever the hell it's on.
Pat McAfee
Geez.
Ty Schmidt
I'll tune in.
Pat McAfee
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, this weekend, I. But they're not starting till 2026.
Boston Connor
Yeah, but this weekend.
Pat McAfee
Next year.
Ty Schmidt
But if you want to get eyes on it this weekend and kind of visualize, hey, what's it going to look like when a ram truck's out there? I'm sure you could probably check it out.
Pat McAfee
I think with technology now, too, you could probably get glasses that say, hey, turn that truck into a ram truck.
Ty Schmidt
Put me in the cockpit.
Boston Connor
Yeah, V.R. that thing. Oh, yeah. Get in there. Yes.
Pat McAfee
Now you're riding shotgun. Are they drifting, these trucks? I don't think I've so. Oh, yeah. I wish my world war.
Cowboys AP Tone
I don't think it's dirt.
Boston Connor
The ram truck's the only half.
Ty Schmidt
I thought you had to have a full towing capacity filled up.
Pat McAfee
Maybe that's why the ram truck got out of it, because they got rid of the dirt. So I'm a truck.
Cowboys AP Tone
We were watching tractor pull the other.
Pat McAfee
Day, and what was winning?
Cowboys AP Tone
That was the ram trucks.
Kirk Herbstreit
Yeah, you're damn right.
Pat McAfee
My truck can pull your truck.
Cowboys AP Tone
Somebody was talking on tractor. I can't remember who it was.
Pat McAfee
They don't understand.
Boston Connor
Yeah, exactly. Which is exactly why we have no idea what tractor. When we say we, I mean me.
Pat McAfee
He was a child. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might have a little bit more information on the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series. He's senior NFL insider for espn. He's a Michigan man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter.
Adam Schefter
Gentlemen, what's going on?
Pat McAfee
When's this? The truck racing season? When's that?
Cowboys AP Tone
You're an insider.
Adam Schefter
You got me there. You got me. I got no inside there.
Pat McAfee
We need you.
Boston Connor
It's bush league, dude.
Pat McAfee
I think the ram truck is going to win all the races that happen whenever the races happen.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So we're pulling for him whenever those races happen. At that one. Big one, too. We want them to win that one.
Boston Connor
Yeah, the big truck.
Pat McAfee
Schefter. Talk about a big one. We got a big one tonight, man. Thursday night kicking off in beautiful fashion over there in Lambeau. Football heaven. What are some storylines here that we need to be paying attention to as we make our picks? We've been told 59% are on the commanders getting three and a half in Green Bay. And then allegedly, there's a lot of bets on the under, but the trend has been towards the under this NFL season thus far through week one. What should we be thinking about tonight, Shefte baby?
Adam Schefter
Well, I think tonight is supposed to be one of the higher scoring games of the week now, whether it actually happens or not, we'll see Thursday nights. I mean, that's always tough when teams are on short weeks to come up with points. Obviously, these are two of the best teams in the nfc. The Commanders last year went to the NFC Championship game. Jaden Daniels, that guy just handles himself so well. In addition to being a great player. He just gets it. He's on it. He is going to be a successful player for a very long period of time. He makes magic with his feet, with his arm, can beat a lot of different ways, and they're really lucky to have him. Great player. Now, the packers, there's a lot of juice there. The mica trade, it's interesting to me. Green Bay's home again tonight. They were home on Sunday against the Lions. They cleaned up against the Lions. They're home tonight against the Commanders, two of the better teams in the nfc. They will be home one time in the next six weeks. So one time after tonight through week eight. There's a buy mixed in there, but there's a lot of road action for the packers, important for them to take advantage. And obviously Micah Parsons will be a huge deal tonight again, as he was on Sunday. He played 29 plays. Now, their plan has been to ramp him up, get them ready. They know it's a long season. They're preparing for it to be a very long season in Green Bay. We'll see whether or not that comes to fruition or not. So they don't want to rush Micah along any faster than he has to, But I would imagine he'll play more than 29 plays tonight. And there is a matchup on the road. We talked about those road games. There is a matchup on the road in a couple of weeks with a team from Dallas named the Cowboys. I'm sure by then Micah might be full speed up and running by then. My guess is he'll be ready for a full workload at that point in time. But Micah brought a lot of juice to that defense on Sunday and will bring more juice to that defense again tonight.
Pat McAfee
I assume as Micah continues to get comfortable over there with his relationships with people and how everything's going. I assume he's going to be the one deciding how many snaps he has, I assume as they roll on. Or is there an actual snap count in mind? Because I think it was, what, 45% or something like that. Last year you said 29 snaps. I think it was 45% of the snaps. I don't know if they would do a percentage per Snap or an actual snap count number? Is that him kind of deciding as they go or is there a play, anything?
Adam Schefter
I think it's give and take from both sides. I would think he tells them how he's feeling and I think. I think they're going to be very mindful of not overusing him and exposing him more than they want to. Again, the one thing that was told to me was it's a long season and he didn't play any football this summer. And so they have to make sure that everything is up to speed with him and that it works out the way that they want over the long term and they don't want to abuse that in the short term.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, if he picks up a sack in the first quarter, you know we already got one. Okay, let's go ahead and limit him back. He gets a sack at the end of that. Okay, let's take him out now. Let's go ahead and have the. Let's make sure it's a happy start here. Let's make sure it's a free flowing start here. But also, let's not be stupid. We hope he's completely healthy. We hope he's back in full action soon because we love watching him. And obviously that packers defense looked very different. If you have to break some news, feel free to do as such. Shafty. We appreciate that.
Adam Schefter
Now, I think getting a call there, like, you know, when certain people call, you're like, okay, something's going on here.
Pat McAfee
So answer it, answer it, answer it, answer it, answer it. No.
Adam Schefter
Well, I just texted the person.
Pat McAfee
All good. Okay. Who is the person? Do they have glasses?
Adam Schefter
No.
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
Boston Connor
Do they have hair?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it's not Sam.
Cowboys AP Tone
Mustache?
Pat McAfee
We'll see. Facial hair? Any facial hair? No. Wow.
Boston Connor
Brandon Beach.
Pat McAfee
Oh, that's a pretty wow. Wow. Good for us. Okay, so.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Okay. All right. Shout out to that entire situation there. We'll continue to ask about tonight's game. Any other news? Go ahead. Ty.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Shefty. Do you have any injury updates on either Zach Tom or Aaron Banks? I know both of them didn't practice yesterday or questionable for tonight. And then on the flip side, does Washington have anyone kind of on the bubble to play tonight?
Adam Schefter
Trying to think of Washington. What's interesting with Washington last week was Chris Rodriguez, the running back was a healthy scratch and they decided to dress four tight ends and less running back. So if they do that again tonight, Rodriguez could be down. Jakory Crosby, Merritt or Bill Crosby. Merritt stepped up and played pretty well in his first role. He, he looked Pretty good there, right? Oh, yeah. It worked out. Yep. And so we'll see whether Bill Crosby Merit comes in tonight and has the same type of impact on this game. The Packer. I haven't heard whether Banks or Toms. Zach Tom is going to be able to go tonight. I would imagine. Tom played last game. I would think that I could send that a text here and hopefully by the end of this show we get an answer to that.
Pat McAfee
I saw. Were you reading a text across the top of your screen there while you're talking on. Yeah, yeah. Just in the middle of that, you're getting information.
Adam Schefter
It feels like that's what we're trying to figure out right now.
Pat McAfee
Okay. I appreciate that. Hell yeah. I really appreciate the way you're operating right now. Multitasking to a tee, having to juggle 45 different conversations all at the same time. A true talent, a true trait and also an incredible work ethic to be in your business. We appreciate you joining us. We're going to run a clip right now. If you would like to potentially go ahead and handle your business. Go ahead, con man.
Boston Connor
Yeah. Chef D. I need you to be honest here. You're going to watch this clip of mcdc giving a, you know, answer at a press conference. And it doesn't sound like old jovial Applebee's. Dan sounds like MCDC's a little pissed off. Fox, why don't you run that?
Matt Rule
Just how good the offense was last year under Ben Johnson. People are just wondering, myself just included, would it have been feasible just to even.
Pat McAfee
I know John's a different coordinator, but.
Adam Schefter
Would it have been feasible to just.
Matt Rule
Jared talked about changes in communication. There wasn't a lot of pre snap motion. Would it have been feasible just to run the. Really the exact same offense as last year?
Pat McAfee
What are you asking? What did Jared say?
Matt Rule
I'm saying the. Your offense last year.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Well, no, you said something.
Pat McAfee
Jared said so let me hear it.
Matt Rule
Changes in communication.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but you said something about emotions and keep.
Matt Rule
I'm saying that. Would it have been feasible to.
Pat McAfee
And people are wondering.
Matt Rule
The offense looks drastically different than it does last year. Would it have been feasible to just exactly run the exact same offense?
Coach Mike McCarthy
So after one game, tell me what.
Pat McAfee
It looks like that's drastically different. Explosive plays weren't there.
Matt Rule
Wasn't as creative.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Wasn't as. You didn't see any pre snap motions.
Pat McAfee
In that game as much as we've seen before.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Once you go back and look at all of our.
Pat McAfee
Our motions, pre snap motions, fast motion shifts on the road.
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah, look at them, bitch. But no, seriously, the Lions, I mean, the. The vibes are not good right now. And mcdc, you know, taking shit for responding that way is ridiculous. Just because. Of course those questions are going to come. But what do you think? Should we be genuinely worried about these Detroit Lions, especially with how good the packers and Vikings look for a quarter?
Adam Schefter
I think. I think there are fair and legitimate questions to ask about how the offense is going to operate in the absence of Ben Johnson. Not just Ben Johnson. There's a coaching staff that lost eight assistant coaches. Tanner Engstrand, who is an offensive coordinator now with the New York Jets. The jets offense looked great on Sunday. He left Detroit, too. There were a lot of people that were big. Tanner Angstrand fans. And so this is an offense. I think that the talent is there. They have a boatload of talent. They lose some coaches, they lose. Frank Ragnow offensive line has some changes. And I just think that these are going to be questions that are going to come up throughout the season. I think it is going to be a little bit of a question mark until they answer them, at the very least. And that offense on Sunday lacked explosiveness. Maybe it was one game. Maybe it was just the opener. It lacked creativity. Maybe it was just the opener. Maybe it was being in Green Bay. But I think there were signals that you're taking out of the first game and say that didn't look like the Lions that we've seen the last couple of years. Now, again, they may come out on Sunday against Ben Johnson and the Bears and they may go back to being themselves. But I can tell you there are people around the league who question that and wonder if this offense will be the same. Now it's up to them to go out and prove those naysayers and doubters and skeptics wrong. And there's certainly enough talent to do that. But through one game, that was a flat performance. Jameer Gibbs right there caught 10 passes for 31 yards. It was the lowest number of receiving yards that a player had ever had for 10 catches in an NFL game in NFL history. And so they didn't play great. They didn't look great. By the way, the Texas come back packers holding out hope that both those offensive linemen can go tonight. But they don't sound overly optimistic. And it sounds like we're going to get Canard at right tackle and Morgan at left guard and both guys could be down tonight.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Put on a ticker. Short week, obviously going to be difficult. People are always optimistic. You Know, hopefully. But then whenever push comes to shove, are we really going to put them out? Beginning of the year, short week like this, have a chance to maybe steal a couple recovery days. Why not?
Boston Connor
Got a real chance to win the whole thing.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you got a long season ahead. Now, on that note, about the packers and about the Lions, maybe the packers defense is just the best defense in the league. And maybe that's why the Detroit Lions offense wasn't that good. Maybe it's a combination of new people talking new everything. But also this Packer packers defense could be the real deal. They put up two first rounders for this defense to be what it is. So maybe they're just going to be. That's how I feel about the Dolphins. Maybe the Dolphins aren't ass. Yeah. Maybe the Colts are just the greatest team in the history of football.
Boston Connor
There's a chance.
Pat McAfee
Maybe they go undefeated. Schefter, there's so many questions still to be left out there. You know, like the Detroit.
Adam Schefter
Look, we go back to week one. The ultimate teaching example of week one was when the New England Patriots went into Buffalo. I think they lost 31 nothing or 31 seven the week in which they cut lawyer Malloy. And it was a disastrous opening for New England. I think they went out to win the super bowl that year.
Pat McAfee
Right.
Boston Connor
That was in the Duck.
Pat McAfee
I like that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, also think about what the Chiefs did to the Patriots opening night.
Boston Connor
Yeah. And then Jimmy Garoppolo finished the game and they asked Belichick after if Tom Brady's still the quarterback and he laughed at him.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So then I think you guys win.
Boston Connor
That was Rhonda. Cincinnati.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I think you guys win the super bowl that year, right?
Boston Connor
Yeah. Yeah. That was the. Yeah. That you year they wanted. I think that was the flight gate year.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So you can. You can be very ass early and win, but the stats are not heavily in your favor.
Ty Schmidt
No, no.
Boston Connor
Especially after an 02 start. I think it was. There was some graphics and it was like four teams have made the Super Bowl. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Boom.
Boston Connor
Have made the super bowl after an 02 start.
Pat McAfee
So it is possible.
Boston Connor
It is possible.
Pat McAfee
It is possible. But, you know, it is a long shot. But the whole season's a long shot anyway.
Boston Connor
Amen.
Pat McAfee
You know, maybe the Lions are all the way back and I like that. I'm sorry. DC's got a little heavy breathing up there. Same little ruffling of the papers.
Boston Connor
That was hilarious.
Pat McAfee
This guy. Super genius. That's what he is. Did you watch what we did on Road, you know, maybe we're slowing it down a little bit here to start this entire thing. I like that. I like where we're at with the Lions. Everybody's rolling them out. Just got to fix the offensive line. If you fix the offensive line, you get a run game going. Play action works. Boom, we're back in this thing. But Jordan Love and Michael Parsons are in Green Bay, and it's a J.J. mcCarthy era in Minnesota. He had a great fourth quarter. That's a sign of things to come, brother.
Cowboys AP Tone
Player of the week, Lions.
Boston Connor
Now, I think the Lions.
Pat McAfee
We are in must win territory. I'll say that. We play the Bears on Sunday. We're in must win territory. J.J. mcCormick, by the way. Go ahead.
Adam Schefter
You know the lot before we get to Jason. I am anxious to get to J.J.
Pat McAfee
But okay, go ahead.
Adam Schefter
The Lions. The Lions. After this game, I mean, look, they play the Bears. It'll be an interesting game. And then after this game, the Lions play at Baltimore.
Pat McAfee
Oh, no.
Adam Schefter
At Baltimore.
Pat McAfee
Oh.
Boston Connor
Monday night, they lost by 40 at Baltimore with Ben Johnson rap.
Pat McAfee
Oh, and three in the Bears game. Obviously, Ben Johnson revenge game. Because they. Yeah, yeah. And they're talking.
Boston Connor
I'm on St. Brown's, like, yeah, when Ben Johnson comes on, I don't even care. We're all saying this.
Pat McAfee
No, he didn't say that.
Boston Connor
He said something like that.
Pat McAfee
No, he didn't say that. He didn't say that. But there was a lot of negativity towards Bengal and Chicago over all the other places he could have went. So he's gonna have revenge there. There's no. You got no cupcakes coming up here for the Detroit Lions. Schedule is absolutely brutal, and the fans are gonna boo the hell out of Ben Johnson this weekend. I'm here for that. Let's talk about J.J. mcCarthy, because you obviously, Michigan man, you knew the inside stuff about him. Any inside stories about him long before I got a chance to learn them through college game day and getting a chance to. To talk to their coaching staff, and then obviously through Desmond Howard talking about him, and just basically everybody that's ever met him saying the same exact thing about him. And I don't want to do the promo once again, but basically everybody that's known him since high school said, in between the ears, he's one of the ones. He is one of the ones. That is what he is. And I think Darius Butler said it sounds like the right comparison for JJ Is actually Tom Brady. Because the in between the ears thing is what made Tom Brady. Tom Brady like we assume JJ McCarthy's work ethic is insane because of everything we've heard about the way that he operates. So he's only going to get better and better. And with Kevin o', Connor, we assume they're only going to get better and better. He's the one. Is that why everybody in Michigan thought that was the case? And that's why Jim Harbaugh was saying this guy had the greatest quarterback workout in the history of quarterback workouts. He's by far the best quarterback in this. What are your thoughts on the Michigan man and his debut? And obviously a fourth quarter that we'll all remember in his hometown of Chicago.
Adam Schefter
I don't know that there are a lot of quarterbacks that could struggle the way that JJ did through three quarters. Throw a pick six, a pick six that I think a lot of people thought the game was on ice at that point in time. And then he responds with three fourth quarter touchdowns, including the bootleg around the corner where he dives into the end zone. And honestly, it was very J.J. mcCarthy esque. It just was. That's what that guy does. And Ty and I talked about it this week, but that guy is the epitome, the epitome of poise, positivity and productivity. That's who he is. He's always upbeat. He always believes he's going to get it done because throughout his entire quarterback life, he has gotten it done. He is somebody that uplifts others. Where some people like to bring down people. JJ's just the opposite. He raises people. You could see the reaction he got when he ran into the end zone and how many people went running around him. It's just kind of who he is. It's in his DNA. It's the intangibles. There are some people that play the game, they just don't win often. There have been enough quarterbacks through history. We don't have to name any names. They just don't. They don't get it done when it matters. This guy, high school, college, and in his first NFL game on the road after a pick six down in the fourth quarter, he does get it done. Watch how many people. Watch how many people come over and celebrate with them once he goes into the end zone there.
Boston Connor
It was like sprints.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I think I called him a sicko or psycho too. I forget what it was, but it's like very. It's like very, bro. Like very much like they're in this thing together. It was awesome. You're right. 75 is who Conor's pointing out in the background. He's not the only one. While we've cut it short, there are.
Adam Schefter
A lot of people now. I think it's great. Sunday night football, of course, Sunday night, you know, we get Sunday night. J.J. mcCarthy versus Michael Penix. A rematch of the national championship game. First time they've met since then. Kind of cool, right?
Boston Connor
Another prime time hit too.
Pat McAfee
This is a banger storylines. Things are going to go well, we assume for both guys. Yep. Okay. NFL swinging a hot bat. They are Monday Night Football doubleheader. Not to mention game kicking off at 10 o'. Clock.
Cowboys AP Tone
Definitely going to watch.
Pat McAfee
Who is it? Who? Who? Yeah, for that. That's really cool.
Boston Connor
So stupid. They got it right last year. Why'd they change it, Chef?
Pat McAfee
We don't know. They might get right this year. Well, they're trying to do 7pm for the West Coast.
Boston Connor
Yeah, because remember though, they had the, they had the 7pm and then they started the next game at like, I don't know, it was 8:30 and it was right when the 7pm game was at halftime. Like they got this done already. I don't know why they're going back.
Pat McAfee
Well, you can't watch fourth quarter and second quarter at the same time.
Cowboys AP Tone
I think it was, I think Orloski was bitching saying nobody listened to my game last year. We need to have them separate.
Pat McAfee
Is that what happened, Shafter?
Adam Schefter
I, I don't know what happened there. Went back to the 10 o' clock game as, as, as a older guy here, a 50 year old guy. I don't like those. Late start for me to make it up for the whole thing. Like it just is like I'm going to try.
Cowboys AP Tone
But you don't have to.
Adam Schefter
My chances of succeeding are not very good, as my wife can attest. I'm sure I'll be, you know, drooling by the second quarter.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I like that. You're a mouth open drooler sleeper. I like that a lot. I'll get into that every once in a while with some deep sleep. 10pm Good for the west coast people though. Happy for the West Coast. Go for the West Coast. We're happy for you. All right. Speaking of the west coast, last question here for you, shaft. We appreciate the hell out of you.
Cowboys AP Tone
Speaking of the west coast, is there just a constant injury bug in Santa Clara? Because it feels like the Niners have been bitten by it the last three years. Right now George Kittle, he goes on the ir. So that's four weeks. And then I saw earlier Today Purdy maybe two to five is a potential. Is he an IR candidate as well? What's, what's going on with the, the Niners in their injury situation right now?
Adam Schefter
Well, Kyle Shanahan said multiple weeks and when the head coach is saying on Wednesday that the quarterback is a long shot to play and that it's a multiple week injury that tells you what need to know like Kyle Shanahan's being as transparent as he could be about that. And so right now it'll depend on how Purdy feels as he's coming along. Whether he misses two games, three games, four, they don't know yet. They're wait to see how he responds to these injuries. The toe is the bigger issue than the shoulder right now. He heard it when he got tackled out of bounds by Julian Love on Sunday. They knew was hurt during the game. They knew it was an issue and now it looks like it's going to sideline him Sunday and beyond. And so, I mean it sets up a great storyline here. You prefer to have Brock Purdy out there, but Mac Jones finally playing for the 49ers. Everybody, everybody expected to see Mac Jones running a Kyle Shanahan offense. We just didn't think it was going to be in Week 2 of the 2025 season. But that's what we got here on Sunday in New Orleans against the Saints. And again that, you know, I'm just telling you that when the Niners made that trade to go up to number three, it was with the intent to draft Mac Jones. And then during the process and the evaluations, they changed their course of thinking and decided to go Trey Lance and they went away from Mac Jones and Mac Jones obviously signed with San Francisco this summer trying to follow like the Sam Darnold plan. Sam Darnold went to San Francisco for a year before he went to Minnesota for a year before he got the big deal in Seattle. And so Mac Jones now gets a chance to show what he can do in the 49ers offense here.
Pat McAfee
I love Brock Purdy. Okay, Yes, I appreciate Brock Purdy. I respect Brock Purdy. I feel like I have banged the drum for Brock Purdy louder than most people because of how much respect I have for his story to be drafted where he was drafted, become the starter against all odds and just ball out and then immediately have success. And then everybody's still thinking, oh, easily. There's a reason they didn't draft him. He could walk all water and they would say it's because he couldn't swim and I didn't create that line, but that was really what Brock Purdy was being judged against, and I didn't like that. I thought he was a baller. Now, him finishing the game with his toe, that's going to keep him out a couple of weeks is certainly something that we should respect his toughness as well. Because if it is something that's going to keep him out for multiple weeks, that had to be a real deal. He finished the game there. So I think a lot of people just assumed he was going to play because he finished the game. If you can finish the game, what are we talking about? What are we going to. Well, adrenaline through the roof. You're doing this entire thing. But I say all that to say this. Shanahan liked Mac Jones right from the draft process. If Mac Jones balls out, okay, possible. Mac Jones balling out is possible. And he again next week and again the week after that. Kyle Shanahan is a guy who will say, we just gave you how much money, we don't care. We are going with Mac Jones. He is a hot hand. Mike is my quarterback type of guy. And that's insane to even think about at this point, especially because of how much I respect rock birdie. But if Mac Jones is the perfect quarterback for a Kyle Shanahan offense, which is possible, especially with the years of experience he's had now, failing, you know, failing is a good thing because you learn a lot. You know, you get humbled. Maybe I don't know how many gritties we're going to see tonight.
Matt Rule
Maybe.
Pat McAfee
Maybe we see a few. But it's like maybe he's at a perfect spot for a Kyle Shanahan offense and his brain is thrown. Maybe that's why, you know, there's a possibility here. There's a huge storyline.
Boston Connor
Yeah. And his number one target in New England while he was there was Kendrick bourne. And the 49ers brought in Kendrick Bourne to be another receiver because Juwan Jennings hurt his shoulder and they weren't sure about him. So Mac Jones is, you know, basically his best target throughout his career thus far, you could say, because, you know, that's the only place he started and played with him would be Kendrick Bourne. So him mccaffrey's healthy and Shanahan wanted.
Pat McAfee
Him like I tongs. What's the guy's name?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Jake Tongas.
Pat McAfee
Are we on the right track here? Am I speaking out of pocket saying that she.
Adam Schefter
Listen, they're committed to Brock Purdy. The money's committed to Brock Purdy. They'd Love to have Mac Jones develop. I think that that's. I mean, there are always a bunch of scenarios that it can unfold with any scenario. I don't see that happening right now. I think there's a lot of steps that would. That you'd have to get through to get to that point in time. If Brock Purdy were unsigned and hadn't signed the deal this past summer, then I'd say that's interesting. Pat. We might be onto something. But they committed big money to the guy, so he's going to be there for a while.
Pat McAfee
Three overall pick.
Boston Connor
Probably trade him.
Pat McAfee
Traded a bunch for it. They put Mr. Irrelevant up in there. It's a wild move, but if you're going to win, you're going to win. I miss Brock Purdy, but I'm excited to see if this is Mac Jones at his full potential. Good luck to him. Good luck to all parties and tonight we'll follow along as you keep us updated on everything that's happening. We appreciate the hell out of you.
Adam Schefter
Thank you, guys. I appreciate having. Nice to be with you. See you Monday.
Pat McAfee
Amen. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Shafter. First 15. First 15 on Monday. Prepare. Prepare. Prepare. Prepare. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a man that said this at halftime of his last game as he was beating a team 33 nothing in the first two quarters of the game.
Matt Rule
Maybe I just have a different stance. I don't like them freaking moving the ball.
Pat McAfee
They're dropping back at the end of the half like we're on the sidelines. Me and Jon are saying they'll take a knee here. They'll run the ball. They don't fear you. They don't respect you enough yet. And if that sounds like coach speak, then you have the wrong brain. They're dropping back against our starting defense. They're cutting our own line at the end of the half. All you young guys just go back there and chill. Shut them.
Matt Rule
I want my opportunity. Some of you guys will get an opportunity right now.
Pat McAfee
I told you I don't care what the score is.
Matt Rule
I told you I care what the tape looks like.
Pat McAfee
Did I trip when the ball was fumbled? No. I don't care what happens in the game.
Matt Rule
I want to see what the next play is.
Pat McAfee
You have one half defense, you have one half. If they try to drop back and throw it and that quarterback's not on.
Matt Rule
The ground, I want new guys in there rushing.
Pat McAfee
I want them hit. I want them never to say our name again. You believe the fact of 43 seconds left, another minute 30 of that. Ladies and gentlemen, the coach. Coach Matt Rule.
Matt Rule
What is up?
Pat McAfee
Hey, I want to let you know when that video was leaked, okay? Snuck out of somebody's phone. Shout out, Will Compton. The boys. Great job on TV this morning, boys. When we see that, I think to myself, here's a guy trying to set a precedent right now. Here's a guy trying to let the boys know, like, hey, in the past, maybe we're okay winning by a touchdown or winning by four, letting people come back on us. Or you said a couple different times through there to the defense, you have an opportunity at a shutout. You don't get a lot of opportunities at a shutout. I love that mentality. Is this new speak from you to the team, or is this a new angle? Or is this kind of how you've always been at all your stops?
Matt Rule
Yeah, this is kind of, you know, who I am and who we are. I think the great thing is, is I just have a team now that's ready for it. That's. They're all there for it. Like, you know, you know that video in the end, there's a couple senior safeties that are shaking their head. And, you know, it was really cool at the end of the game. Like, the one safety, Marquis Buford, he was like, I've Never beat someone 68 nothing. He's like, this feels great. And, you know, it's not supposed to be easy. So, you know, you have to have moments like that where you're just reminding everyone what the standard is. And that was directed at the coaches, too. Like, I don't want to see us chilling. Like, we're supposed to, you know, we're supposed to beat people. If you're at Nebraska, you're supposed to win like that. So. But yeah, I have a team that likes that kind of stuff. Like, they weren't. I wasn't yelling at them. I was yelling with them, and they were all about it.
Pat McAfee
I love the competitive spirit. Gonna have to have that. You know, having the killer mentality is a real thing, and you have to have it. And I think it is something that is practiced. I think it is something that is trained. And it sounds like you were thinking of the second half against Akron there. 33 nothing at halftime, 68 nothing after four. So that's a bigger. You do some quick math. That's a bigger second half than first half there. And no relief syndrome for this Nebraska team. Obviously, you have Houston Christian Huskies on Saturday. Now, I assume there's going to be a lot of similar Chatter to the boys going into this one. Nobody has really heard of this team. Now, I certainly did because I love college ball. And we talked about this Huskies team down there for the Houston Christian folks.
Boston Connor
One of our favorites.
Pat McAfee
They're tough dogs are barking down there. Yeah.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
In the name of the. Yeah, that's what they do pregame. Yeah, that's the, that's the entire thing.
Boston Connor
They're dogs.
Pat McAfee
They're husky dogs.
Cowboys AP Tone
They don't pray for winning because, God willing, they shout.
Pat McAfee
That's right. And where else would they rather be than right here underneath this Lord? So I understand that they are a problem. You're going to have to keep your boys locked in for real because that's the type of game that blows an entire season, especially if you think you're going to do something special. Is that the messaging and how do you not look ahead to the rest of the schedule? That is very, very good. You got a, you got a pretty solid lineup coming right around the bend here.
Matt Rule
Yeah, no doubt. I think the way we've, we've talked about it all along is, you know, the guys, guys want to go to the NFL. So I've said, like, hey, we have three preseason games just like you have in the National Football League. And that's not to diminish them, but it's, hey, we're in the Big Ten and we have to go coast to coast with the, play all these good teams. So we have three games to establish kind of our identity. Guys, the players on our team, they have three games to establish their role. Like, I want to be a starter. I want to. I want to be the starting kicker. I want to be the starting. Okay, well, go play well. Like, like, I'm not going to make you the starter if you don't play well against Cincinnati and then against Akron and against Houston Christian. And so that doesn't mean that the games don't. Don't matter, aren't important. It just means, like, we are trying to build our team up into the Big Ten. And so there's a lot of guys this weekend who have a lot riding on this game. Like your role, your. How people see you. Like, when the Big Ten teams turn on this tape, what are they going to say about you? Like, are, is there going to be a fish next to your name? Like, oh, that's the guy to go after, or are they going to, are they going to circle you and say, hey, watch out for this guy? And Dominic and Sue, great, great Husky. He said that on Bustle with the boys And I'm going to show that to the guys tomorrow. Like, who are the guys on our team that you have to circle? Like, hey, we got to be ready for this guy. And that's my challenge to our guys. I like that that video's out there because our guys answered the call. To your point. We haven't shut someone out here since 2009. And so to finally shut someone out. Okay, great. But now the standard set. Now you have to go out and play that way each and every week.
Pat McAfee
I like the reminder, though. Like, hey, you have a chance here to shut somebody. Like, that is a new goal. All of a sudden, we're moving the goalposts. Like, hey, we have a new goal right now that we didn't know we could potentially be staring down. And we all know Mac teams tough.
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah, Tough.
Pat McAfee
No doubt. If you let them hang around. If you let them hang around, Love ball. They're going to be scrappy in there. And that Ohio University team, I would not schedule them if I was you guys.
Matt Rule
Yeah, I. I have a couple rules. I have a couple rules. Not rules, but when I meet with my ad, when I get a new ad, I'm like, just please never mention the word Dakota to me. And then we. We have Ohio U next year. I'm watching them, you know, almost beat Rutgers. I'm watching them last week. And then my ad, Troy Dan, who's a great friend, he's like, you do know we have them next year. I about fell out of my chair. Like, well, it was before scheduled, before I got here. Like, who scheduled. Who schedules a hot Frank Solich? I mean, those teams know how to win.
Pat McAfee
At Ohio. West Virginia was. We scheduled Ohio at Ohio. Who did that? Your question? Same thing I asked. I'm like, how are we playing in Athens? And they got Navarro back. He's in, what, his hundredth year, it seems like over there. Yeah, they're scrappy, T. So if you don't put them away, though, your team could have been on the other side of an embarrassment there, you know? Like, I. I appreciate the way you address that with your team. I would say 45 seconds to a minute. Too long. You agree after watching it back?
Matt Rule
Yeah, well, I'm always too long. I'm emotional. Like, that's not. Like, I'm not walking in, like, hey, Pat, what should I say here? I was legitimately mad that they drove the ball down and kicked and almost made a field goal. They hit the goalpost. I was like, at some point. That's my point. At some Point at Nebraska. We gotta be Nebraska. Like, you just gotta end the game. Like, the quarterback drops back, you gotta go sack him. And I respect Joe Morehead. I respect Akron. They played. They played hard to the end. It was a good game in terms of, like, there was no fights, there was no traffic. But, like, we're supposed to be Nebraska. And so I'm just trying to get our guys to realize, like, when you say the word Nebraska, you got to think the way the guys at the preeminent programs in the country think. So I was legitimately mad, but, bro, I. I'm always too low. That's why my wife cuts me off. She's like, matt's not talking.
Pat McAfee
No. Yeah. I want to let you know, me and D. Bunch were watching it. We're watching it. We're like, this is really good. And then we found ourselves looking at the clock. We got another 90 seconds here. Okay. I'm excited what he does, but I love, though, that your team responded, brother. That's the only thing. Doesn't matter how I view it. Doesn't matter how Will Compton view it. He was ready to go. Yeah, Will Compton was ready to go play. Doesn't matter how anybody else views. It's how your team views it. And you're obviously getting through to him now when it comes to coaching, teaching, elevating this particular roster. You said three weeks to kind of build for the Big Ten schedule. Go ahead, Tone.
Cowboys AP Tone
Yeah, Coach. First off, shout out. Coach Morehead. He's a great Pittsburgh guy, but talking about that, Saban was on the show last week, and Connor asked him about playing FCS schools, and Saban said he would use those games to kind of work on things that he thought weren't good. Like if their passing game was. Wasn't good, they would throw the ball 50 times. But you talked about, in preparing for Big Ten games, are you, like, in these games, are you using it to prepare for Big Ten or using it to. For your team to get better in areas that, you know they're not good? How do you. How do you approach these games against FCS schools?
Matt Rule
I. I think it's one and the same, you know, and I. I think it's great that we're playing fc. I mean, I. I coached at fcs. I coached at Western Carolina. Like, the. You know, those schools need games like this to serve, to survive and pay the bills. So I think it's awesome. I think. I think you're preparing for the Big Ten by fixing the things that you're not doing well, like you know, we're one of the top pass defenses in the country right now, but we're not sacking the quarterback. So, like, this week, like, you know, that's. That's been a major, major, major factor. You know, we haven't had a chance to go no huddle, two minute yet. Very much so. You know, we're working on that during the week, and then we'll probably show some of that. We'll probably work on some of that in the game. So, yeah, when you guys bring Coach Saban on, he says those things, I write them down. I'm like, oh, wow, that's a great way to think about it. But I'm also trying to make sure the guys on our roster, like the twos and the threes, like, you know, they got to play a lot versus Akron. And that was important because now in college football, we want to play 16 weeks. We want to go to the College Football Playoff. And so guys who might be a three right now, they could be a starter come December and January. So I'm trying to make these games, like, the feeling should feel like a playoff game, because for some guys, it really is for them, this is their chance to show what they can do.
Pat McAfee
How's Raiola? How do we feel about it? We like it.
Matt Rule
I love it. I think he played. The big thing is, you know, I said to our media and I think nationally, like, it's just so easy to be like, oh, you know, like the Mahomes thing. Like, I want him to come out with amazing numbers and not a lot of highlight plays. I don't want you to see him, you know, running around and throwing the ball behind his back and under. You know, he can do all that stuff. I want him just to play quarterback. And I think he's so underappreciated nationally, but, you know, we'll have to do it in the Big Ten. But I think as time goes on, his, his. He's throwing the ball from under center. He's throwing the ball from the gun. He's. I mean, he's doing everything you're going to do on Sundays. I think he's. I think he's one of the best players in the country.
Pat McAfee
What is true sophomore right now, right?
Matt Rule
That. That was game 15 for him. 12 games a bowl game. And then this. I mean, this will be game 16. He's not even like. I mean, he's so young. I mean, he's going to be so good, dude.
Pat McAfee
Great player last year had a lot of flash, I think, right? That's what you were talking about, all the flash this year. You're saying he feels like a more mature quarterback. He said under center, he's no flash plays. We're just doing football. Basically, you're saying.
Matt Rule
Exactly right.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Matt Rule
I mean, you know, last year, early on, he had some plays, he ran around, he made some crazy throws. Some throws that you're like, no, no, no. Oh, yes. All right, cool. And so that was kind of the storyline, like, hey, look at these exotic plays. But now it's like he's playing quarterback, like, the way. The way you need to play it. He's getting the ball to the right guys. We completed balls to 4, 14 different people this game. So it's not like, hey, we're just throwing to one guy. He's doing. He's doing quarterback play at the highest level through two games. And now we'll have a chance on Saturday to try to go back to the other point, do some things maybe we haven't done as well, push the ball down the field. Maybe some. No huddle. We'll see how the game plays out.
Pat McAfee
Oh, dump that. Dump that. Houston Christian's gonna. They're gonna know the game plan. They're gonna know the game plan.
A.J. Hawk
They're.
Pat McAfee
They're definitely gonna hear this last question. A lot of packers fans out there. The. In Nebraska.
Matt Rule
You know, there's a lot of packers fans here. You know, we got a lot of Chiefs fans, and there's a lot of packers fans here.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I can imagine. Right out there in that part of the world, part of the country. How do you feel about Michael Parsons joining the Packers?
Matt Rule
I think it's such a great move. I mean, you know, you. You give away. You give away. You know, you give away a good player, fine, Clark, you give away two ones. But you mean, you get the. You get the best defensive player in football, and you're a running team. You know, you get good quarterback play from Jordan Love. But now you've added a dynamic element. And how do you win games in the National Football League? They're all going to come down to the final five minutes. Having somebody who can affect the other quarterback is vital. And so you give away two ones. But they're going to be in the playoffs. Those are. Those are going to be picks in the 20s or whatever. I mean, I think it's such a great move. And him coming out there, he's out there at number one, you know, an old Harrisburg guy, my kind of guy. Like, I think he's just a great player, and I think It's a great move by Matt LaFleur and the people there.
Pat McAfee
I forgot there was a Penn State connection there. Of course. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. How's House rules? How's House Rules? I almost called it Rules House again. I just want to let you know.
Matt Rule
Listen, listen. You went with the who's House Rules House, Little Run DMC last time and I loved it.
Pat McAfee
We.
Matt Rule
We debated on the last pot. Should we just change the name to Rules House? If you say it, I'm good with it. But we came out with another episode today. My boy, Danny Woodhead, Alec all American volleyball player here. So we're having fun with it. You know, we're getting some. We're getting some people in and, and it's, it's, it's fun for me to be on the other side.
Pat McAfee
Hey, I want to go to the volleyball game with you out there.
Matt Rule
Oh, they're amazing, dude. It's, it's. It's an unbelievable atmosphere. Come on, let's do it.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, absolutely. Love the sport. Love the sport. All right, ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the undefeated Nebraska Cornhusker football team. I. Rules. House rules. Rules. US Rules. It is us. Just tell them. This is Joe Button.
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Boston Connor
Thank you very much. Wanted to support Tyler, you know, the best way I knew how kind of rep one of his favorites. I didn't want to wear packers gears a little much but I know that a a Dale intimidator shirt will help.
Pat McAfee
And is that true, Ty? Does it feel as if he is riding alongside the Green Bay packers tonight because the 3D is next to you?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, without a doubt. Almost brings a tear to mind actually.
Coach Mike McCarthy
What I'm going to do, I'm going.
Pat McAfee
To go ahead and hand you one.
Ty Schmidt
Of these for the show. You put that in front of you son, and you just left. Lord, do the rest.
Pat McAfee
Holy.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
Pat McAfee
Right there on top of the popcorn. Get your popcorn ready actually.
Ty Schmidt
Well said.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's not a bad little. Yeah, that's not a bad little tie in there. How do you feel about the packers tonight? Because I've heard some, some voices around the Thunderdome saying really like the commanders all of a sudden plus three and A half. Are people forgetting about Cliff Kingsberry and Jaden Daniels and what they were able to do in week one? Or is everybody blinded by the Michael Parsons magic sand? Oh, we all hypnotized by the number one flying around there in the fourth quarter. And you say, do we not remember who the Washington Commanders are now that they're in this new era, new ownership, new time, they're a good team. Getting three and a half feels like a lot of points for Washington Commanders team, especially of this stature. Are you hearing the same things that I'm hearing around the Thunderdome tie? And how does that make you feel? Yeah, a little bit.
Ty Schmidt
But I think kind of the prevailing notion has been, hey, three and a half might be too much, think the packers win, but maybe the Commanders cover, which I could see that being the case. I'll tell you what I, I did, I told Connor this morning. Had the packers looked like hammered dog last week or just squeaked by the Lions, I would have been very nervous going into tonight because I do think there's a lot of talk of Jaden Daniels, like, well, you know, hey, we'll see. Maybe he has a step down after slump, which is kind of weird because typically we hear about like, no, actually, if you're good, like, that's when you really take that jump is like that second and third year when you're a guy like him. So, yeah, obviously, you know, Jared Goff's not back there again this week. Their play styles are certainly a little bit different. So that does concern me a little bit. But again, it's at home. And this is just. It's a great opportunity for the Packers. You have all this talk, you have all this pomp and circumstance surrounding them this season. It's like, okay, go prove it. You know, you have a.
Pat McAfee
You.
Ty Schmidt
You had a great win week one. Flush that. That doesn't mean shit. Go out and beat a team who you could potentially see in the NFC Championship.
Pat McAfee
Earlier, we chitchat that 59% of the people are on Washington Commanders +3/2, which also echoed the sentiments of the Thunderdome earlier before we went live. Let's go to 1/2 of the Hammer Dad Cowboys. AP Tone, where are we at now with the public trying to beat the sports books? For the first weekend of.
Cowboys AP Tone
For the football season, we have had some significant movement. It's down to 58% of the money on the Washington Commander. So a little bit more packers money.
Pat McAfee
Oh, that's from 59% to 58%. Wow. Plus three and a half still got an opportunity. What states over there? Maryland has sports betting. Oh, yeah. Virginia.
Cowboys AP Tone
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yep. I think majority of mass. You think all what states don't? Utah, California.
Boston Connor
Does Florida take Hard Rock?
Pat McAfee
Florida. I don't think California.
Cowboys AP Tone
No, you can't, because. Yeah, Hard Rock.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You can only do that through hard rock.
Boston Connor
Texas.
Cowboys AP Tone
38 u. S. States have it.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so there's quick Math.
Cowboys AP Tone
Plus Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so D.C. also in there.
Boston Connor
Shout out to PR man.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Puerto Rico. By the way, great place.
Boston Connor
Love that place.
Pat McAfee
Great place down there. Puerto Rico is a great island. I know Tony sure had a joke, a little misdirection about the place. I. I don't. You know, Bad Bonnie, obviously, right from Puerto Rico.
Boston Connor
Oh, teasing. Pizza.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. He blew out his knee.
Boston Connor
His knee?
Pat McAfee
Stop.
Boston Connor
Stop hopping like a bunny.
Pat McAfee
He's doing a 30 day or 30 show. What's that called? Residency in Puerto Rico. Just the island of Puerto Rico. And I happen to be down there in the middle of the show. Resident. And his show was like an hour maybe away from where I was. But they're talking about tourism just on the whole island being up because bad bunny's doing this entire thing. So when you talk about representing for your homeland, I mean, he is actually doing that, like bringing so much money to the island. Yeah, he's a showman too. He's entertaining.
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah, ple.
Pat McAfee
He's doing a lot of stuff, you know, and then he's hopping around. His knee blows. He toughed it out to the back. He did. Which I appreciate. So what we're saying is maybe more people betting on the commanders at this standpoint because Green Bay packers fans have yet to wake up and start gambling. Or do we think + 3.5 is the right play? Feels like that's what everybody is alluding to. That's chit chatting about.
Cowboys AP Tone
It's not the side I'm going to be on, but if the majority.
Pat McAfee
Hey, Tony. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is live from an attic in Ohio. He is also a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion, and a Ryder cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. hay Hawk.
A.J. Hawk
Hey, that song you're looking for is called Roll out the barrel. What they play in Lambeau? Play it like you usually like, Heading into the fourth quarter, towards the end of the game, just get everybody really juiced up.
Pat McAfee
Let me hear it. Because we lost in the preseason there.
A.J. Hawk
By a lot more of an instrumental thing. I mean, there's some words to it. More of an instrumental, just kind of.
Pat McAfee
Vibe Just do it. What's it sound like, though? What's the instrumental sound? Throw out the barrel.
A.J. Hawk
There it is. And then there's some words like barrel, tad, taba, taboro. There's like some weird words in it, too. It's like old polka situation.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so maybe that is what you were referring to. Roll out the Barrel is the name. Bruce, can we maybe try to search that Roll out the barrel. We assume it's called Lil Wayne did it.
A.J. Hawk
Hey, Lil Wayne introed it, I think. I don't know, four or five years ago at Lambo. He was like the guy that started it.
Pat McAfee
He hit the Roll out the barrel with the Wayne train. You're telling me Lil Wayne got on the Roll out the Barrel?
Cowboys AP Tone
That's sick.
Pat McAfee
Barrel song. That is nasty testing.
A.J. Hawk
Yeah, he was on the 50. I think it was on the 50. He kind of introed it and bam. Place went crazy.
Pat McAfee
So he introed the song or he was. He put a verse on the song.
A.J. Hawk
I don't think he put a verse on the song. At least not in the moment. Not in the video I saw.
Pat McAfee
Need a mixtape remix with Lil Wayne. I can do it on top of Roll out the Barrel.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, if you want to, sure.
Pat McAfee
But can you find the song, though? Can you find a video, Bruce, so we can hear the thing as opposed to just read about it, you know, because AJ Refuses to do it. What do you say?
Ty Schmidt
Roll out to the barrel.
Pat McAfee
Roll, roll, roll.
Cowboys AP Tone
No, There you go.
A.J. Hawk
They throttle on me. Is it. How's it look?
Pat McAfee
I think it was an auto focus situation there. And they got those books in the back. You got some new books this year, I see.
A.J. Hawk
Yeah, a couple of new ones add to the collection. But, you know, the usuals are here.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the usual is always going to be around. Always going to want those words of literature, obviously really close to you, your brain, so that you can maybe osmosis it. I appreciate you doing that. Did you ever think about maybe changing the books for this year? Was there ever even a thought of that?
A.J. Hawk
No, I. No, can't. Can't fake that. I. I did.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I don't think I've even put thought into that background, but I have had people recently come up and say, so are those his favorite books? Why is he always in front of the. And I'm like, why you turn them backwards?
A.J. Hawk
Why do you turn those books backwards?
Pat McAfee
They tell me that's because you're mysterious.
A.J. Hawk
You meant because it's art.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it is art. You're right. You take. You never want to Judge a book by its cover.
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
Pat McAfee
So you actually completely cover the COVID so that there is no cover. So you go in blind going in, which is, hey, not a bad thing to do. And that's why we appreciate you tonight though, obviously. Great bias. You're the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. The Washington commanders are coming to town. We've heard 65 degrees tonight should be a perfect night in Green Bay, Wisconsin. AJ your thoughts on what will win the game for the packers or what you're worried about? Maybe for the Packers? Either or.
A.J. Hawk
So what's the final injury situation from Chef? Did he say do we know about the O line?
Pat McAfee
What's going Likely it's not.
A.J. Hawk
Not a great thing. But you know what? I still think they'll be all right. Obviously we need Jordan Love to play. Well, I think we need to find a way to run the ball too if we're Green Bay. Jaden Daniels is awesome. I. I think the Commanders are awesome. I love what they do. But I think another home game in Lambeau, night game. They're going to play Roll out the Barrel head in the fourth quarter. That place is going to be alive tonight. It's going to be awesome. I think the packers figure it out.
Pat McAfee
We found it.
Cowboys AP Tone
Is it like Renegade?
Pat McAfee
I mean.
Boston Connor
Yes.
A.J. Hawk
It's kind of a hokey version.
Pat McAfee
Bruce found it.
Boston Connor
Had a boy Bruce.
Kirk Herbstreit
Roll out the barrel.
Pat McAfee
We'll have a barrel of fun.
A.J. Hawk
You know the dance too, already.
Pat McAfee
We've got the blues on the run. Sing.
A.J. Hawk
It's so Wisconsin, it is so brave, baby.
Pat McAfee
Bring out a sorrel. Really? A. So now it's time to roll the barrel for the gang. That's sick.
Boston Connor
That sucks.
Pat McAfee
What? What?
A.J. Hawk
Pretty sweet.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Boston Connor
I'm sorry. That sucks. And honestly, I'm damn near speaking for Ty here because I know he won't say it's tradition.
Ty Schmidt
Sorry we don't have Sammy Adams, you.
Boston Connor
Know, coming out for the Patriots.
Pat McAfee
You know, I'm lazy comparing.
Boston Connor
I'm not comparing anything like that. I'm strictly comparing it to the only one I know and that's Renegade. And I'm sorry.
Cowboys AP Tone
Yeah, but that's no, that's one A1B situation.
Pat McAfee
I think you're thinking about Frankie Yankovic and his Yanks here singing Roll. He's a Yank thing. Yeah, that's what we're talking.
Cowboys AP Tone
Listen, if it gets the crowd fired.
Pat McAfee
Up, that's all it meant. What you say? It was a hokey version. That took me back to that preseason game we were getting Our ass.
Kirk Herbstreit
Reminds.
Pat McAfee
Me of the Pittsburgh polka, dude.
A.J. Hawk
Hey, the best ones we played, you know, in Green Bay. We're used to all like the Lambeau Field that play raw at the Barrel. We went to San Francisco I don't know how many years ago, and titty boys performing on the top of the dugouts at the Old kids. This is not. This is not Lambeau Field, guys. This is much different atmosphere.
Pat McAfee
That's a great performance. So, I mean, I've never seen him not have a great performance, by the way. Yeah, I've seen him a couple different times at different times of the night. You know, I've seen him at one place at 10pm I've seen him in another place 2am Both times, nothing but home runs out of titty boy. I mean, he's ready for the moment. Always will be, always has been. But yeah, it is interesting how different stadiums operate, how different fan bases are. You know, like here in Indianapolis, I think we have a very hospitable bunch. Is it Nebraska that's like the greatest.
Boston Connor
Fans, the nicest of all time.
Pat McAfee
The football fans are just like Philip. They do the entire thing. And then you got like the old school Raiders fans. I'm not saying Las Vegas is like this, but they take pride in like. Yeah, it sucks playing here because of us. It's a fascinating dynamic, these stadiums. I think whatever you empower the city, though, to be awesome. I think that's a good thing. You should just know your identity in there. You know what I mean? A.J. you should know your idea.
A.J. Hawk
How do you get that? Does your. Your team has to have a good run of being really, really good to create that kind of identity, doesn't it? You can't be like mediocre and have great traditions, can you? I don't know. Maybe you can.
Pat McAfee
I think the people are the culture in any city. Okay. That's what I think. So, like in Pittsburgh, for instance, there's a chance there's going to be some booze bags fighting each other.
Boston Connor
Sure.
Pat McAfee
Like that is going to happen probably in this. At a game that is probably going to take place. Philadelphia, probably. Go ahead and check that box.
A.J. Hawk
As Cincinnati.
Pat McAfee
Boom. Now, Zach Taylor, I'd like to talk to you about this. Now that we're at Cincinnati. Bang. Now let's get into an actual story. Love this. This is head coach of the Cincinnati Bengals, Zach Taylor, who, we will add, is a man who has taken a game ball to a local bar, dive bar and given a game ball to them and the people of Cincinnati. I think he has had a beer or 10 with the Cincinnati people. Here's him chit chatting about opening night. Yeah, here's exactly what I'm looking for. I know how loud we're going to be and so let's do it early. Let's show them right out the gate. I think when Sam Hubbard is up there as the ruler of the jungle, every seat is packed and I'd love to look up just for. I'm just asking for one game, a 10 minute sacrifice from the parking lot. And so that might just mean getting up 10 minutes earlier and getting to the stadium 10 minutes earlier than you normally would. And so do whatever you want in those extra 10 and then that extra 10 getting in the stadium. And so when Sam's the ruler, I'm kind of looking up at that escalator that's to my right and it's blank, you know, and maybe people just appease me and stand at the bottom so I can't see as he's up there. But I would love to hear that just week one, the rest of them, you can, you can tailgate a little extra longer. But I think for this first one to be awesome, just to send the message to the team, we got to do our best to start two. And oh, and for all the great things that we want to do this year, it starts with playing great at home. And that's a collective effort from our players, our coaches, our fan base. And so I'm excited to set off 20, 25 the right way at home. And orange, we're oranged out, you know, and the jersey look great and our guys will be fired up. That's a one o' clock game. He's saying maybe we get there a little bit earlier. Okay, let's go ahead and fill that place at the beginning of this. This isn't a Miami Heat game or a Los Angeles Lakers game, especially when Sam's up there as the ruler of the jungle. They got the Jacksonville Jaguars coming into town. The Jacksonville Jaguars vastly different than the Jacksonville Jaguars have been in years past. If you listen to AQ Shipley with the offensive line in wait, they're designing plays and everything they got going on down there. That's a situation where Zach Taylor tells Ohio people, need you in here. Okay, enough with the boozing. Need you to come inside. If Jacksonville starts hot, right? I don't know Ohio people perfectly, but I do know them pretty. This guy, why don't you show up 10 minutes early? There is, there is a chance that that happens. But how do you think the response will be from this? And what do you think Bengals fans are thinking heading into a big orange out in the jungle?
A.J. Hawk
I think fans, the response will be positive. I think they do need to have a hot start to this game. That would definitely help. But yeah, I think the fans are probably pretty upset that they've started so poorly in the past that they're like, all right, hey, we need to do our part to make sure that we have a hot start, because we are. We know we have a good team, but we've kind of got behind the eight ball the last few years.
Pat McAfee
Welcome to Jungle Guidings. They play that a lot over there, I assume?
A.J. Hawk
A little bit, yeah. A little bit.
Boston Connor
They better.
Pat McAfee
What do you mean a little.
Boston Connor
The hell.
A.J. Hawk
I don't, I don't even call a bunch. I, I do remember after. I remember Andy Dalton tell me one time they came out to I think Katy Perry roar or something and it just, it didn't work. Andy said, I don't know who came up with it, but it did not work. Probably shouldn't have happened.
Pat McAfee
Hey, some of those stadiums are ass whenever it comes to music playing, game day atmosphere, the vibe, the in between quarters, what we're doing, the timeouts, you know, they try new games. We had a new game at Lucas Oil Stadium. Tic tac toe with the garbage can toss. Used to be just the garbage can toss. The thing about the garbage can toss or the, the little like you had to hit it like a circle here. Very rarely did they. If they hit, it was a celebration. Right. So now they had to hit at least three times to get the tic tac toe board. There was a lot of misses in there.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I bet.
Pat McAfee
So we're waiting for the next one. People are getting a little bit eager in there. But the teams that do that, right. I do think it's an advantage. I think the home field advantage is real and I think the stadium and the DJ and how they can help, you know, they can kind of guide how we do this thing. Don't you think, A.J. with where we've been and what we've seen these days. Yeah.
A.J. Hawk
And like you talk to the, the people that run like that are in pretty good franchises. They, they, it's their full time gig. They have a whole team that, that's what they do. Like game day environment, atmosphere. When they play the music, when you stop it, when you start it. I mean, think of like, think of. Was it Buffalo in between when they're. During the timeout and all the players are playing air guitar and all that stuff. Like, it's a real thing. I think if you're in the NFL and you don't know it, you don't have a great atmosphere. Go talk to some of these college places, because we've been to some of these college stadiums where they have it dialed in. They know what to do.
Pat McAfee
Juice, you know, because there's a lot of distractions in the modern world, okay? So we need to keep everybody dialed, and we need to keep everybody's energy up, because as soon as they sit down and get tired, you're going right to their phone and probably right to whatever drink they have. Right to. This ain't a benefit. You're in this building. You're not helping anything right now. You're certainly there. So it's like the juice and the way you have it all flowing is a big deal. Zach Taylor said, can we get there for the beginning of the game, please.
Boston Connor
Please, Just this one.
Pat McAfee
Cincinnati has a great tailgating system. I will say I got a chance to see it one time. They got great setups everywhere. I'm sure there are people that like to celebrate football. Zach saying, just for the first one, is there any way you can be in there? This Jacksonville Jaguars team ain't the same old Jaguars, okay? Actual good team this year from what everybody is saying. Shout out to Liam Cohen and Stoner. Joining us now, super bowl champion head coach of the Green Bay packers, formerly with the Dallas Cowboys, now a man that we get a chance to chat with every single week, Yinzer legend. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Mike McCarthy. Oh, Coach. Coach, you look amazing. I like the Kangal, but. Oh, it's not a Kango.
Boston Connor
It's a hat with a sticker on it.
Pat McAfee
Oh, wow. Who's that behind you, Coach?
Coach Mike McCarthy
A.J. hawk. I mean, he made the request last week, so we accommodate him.
Pat McAfee
Hell, I.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Even when I got me an AJ Hawk microphone, too. I'm just trying to. AJ's lead here, so I'm trying to.
Pat McAfee
Fit in around AJ. What does that mean? You called for a photo of yourself behind Coach McCarthy.
A.J. Hawk
I sent a text. Actually, I sent a text while he was still on the show for my keyboard. Say, hey, Coach, you got to put a picture of me next time, please, in your background.
Pat McAfee
Hey, go photo aj There. Coach, don't you think he should grow his hair back? Is that what he's doing right now, you think?
Coach Mike McCarthy
Yeah, it looks good. You have to ask Laura that. I'll stay out of that one, Coach.
Pat McAfee
That's a smart man. That's Good coaching right there, coach. Obviously, you have a lot of history in Green Bay. You're currently in Green Bay, obviously, the ties, the mica are very deep as well, with not only your connection at the Dallas Cowboys, but now he's potentially living in the neighborhood that you stay in currently. What are your thoughts on where the Green Bay packers are right now? What are your thoughts on their debut against the Detroit Lions, and is there a buzz up there? I know you haven't been able to be around the city since you left, but is there a buzz in Green Bay? Like, hey, maybe this is a year that the packers can go on a run?
Coach Mike McCarthy
Oh, definitely. No, there's definitely a big buzz. I mean, everywhere I know I go, that's probably the first or second question is, you know, how's Micah doing? And, you know, how's it going to be here in Green Bay? So being at the game, definitely felt the buzz. I mean, just to hear him, you know, when they announced and really, I kind of. I got a kick out of watching him, you know, on the sidelines because he was chomping at the bit. It was like a cage lion, you know, getting ready to go in there. I think they played him around 30 plays and. But just, you know, from the first time he got in that first, third down, you know, the pressure, because, I mean, Micah has an effect. I mean, the defensive backs are going to. Are definitely going to benefit from it in the defensive pass, you know, in pass defense, and I think, you know, definitely the other guys up front. But I was very impressed with the Packers. I thought they played at a really high level from the start of the game all the way through, and. And I was very impressed with their defensive front.
Pat McAfee
Are the Lions dead, Coach? Are the Lions absolutely dead? That's Foxy, who's a Detroit Lions fan in the back going in there. But whenever all this starts happening, with all the turnover and change, and obviously you hope that you're able to just pick up right where you left off. Is there growing pains? Like, what are your thoughts on the Detroit Lions after watching their game with the Packers?
Coach Mike McCarthy
Well, I'll say this, and we talked a little bit about this last week before the Cowboys and Eagles game. I mean, division games, to me, division games are the most important of the best games of the regular season. I've always loved the format of playing the division games at the end of the year. I thought when the league went to that 10 or 12 years ago, that was a great move. But division games and week one are a bitch. And I think it was what, nine of the 16, nine to 16 games in week one were division games. So that's a tough deal and I think for especially opposing teams, you know, going into that stadium week one. So, you know, by no means are the Lions. I mean, it's their own one. I think that's just the reality of the situation. And you know, coming out of training camp, you got September football and things like that, but, you know, the speed of the game is, you know, is something you're always very conscious of as a coach. You know, play style, getting your play style established. You know, the time clocks in both the run protection in the pass game are all things that, you know the details of that. But no, by no means. Detroit will be fine.
Pat McAfee
Okay. I think Foxy likes that. Yeah, absolutely. Love that coach. And how hard is it to have a rookie lineman, a second year guy that hasn't played that much on the line in the week one and they didn't get any time in the preseason. How hard is that for a Week 1 offense and should they play in the preseason? I think Foxy would like to know. Yes, definitely want to know.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Well, I think the biggest thing is, I'd say offensive lineman is a whole, have the biggest challenge, you know, coming out of training camp just from the pure training regiments. You know, if you look at the way, you know, the off season programs are established now and definitely the amount of padded work you can have in training camp, but that's a big challenge. You know, we had, we had two rookie offensive linemen start last year and you know, and the best thing that can happen to them is they practice every day, keep playing, get connected with the, you know, with the other guys. And that's no different than in Detroit or any other, any of the other teams that are playing, you know, offensive line for the first time in year one, they just gotta, they gotta be honestly, they gotta stay healthy. That's the most important thing. You have to go through it. It is week one. He'll be better off, you know, Ford, as time goes on. But that's just part of the challenge in today's NFL.
Pat McAfee
I think that's happening tonight to Green Bay, right? There's gonna be a couple rookies out there.
Ty Schmidt
Looks like it's second year guy, one of them. But he didn't, he didn't play much last year. So yeah, I mean, all intents and.
Pat McAfee
Purposes, pretty much two young offensive linemen on a short week. Okay. Against Detroit Lions defense and team that has been kind of counted out all Week. You know, I wonder how it'll go for the Green Bay packers offense. Did we know that you were going to be getting introduced back there? That was awesome. When we saw the video, it was fucking sweet.
Boston Connor
So cool.
Pat McAfee
How was this? What was this? And we should have known about this. We should have been sending congratulations that you're getting on it. Turn it up.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Well, I feel. I'm sorry I failed to bring it up in the.
Pat McAfee
Listen to that place.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Hey, that had to be old, that's for sure.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, tell us about it. What was that? You're just getting back?
Coach Mike McCarthy
Yeah, no, it was a celebration. This is the, you know, alumni weekend for the packers, and I was invited to go as part of the Super Bowl 45 celebration. And obviously, a lot of guys weren't. Weren't able to attend for the timing of it, but it was great. We had. Saturday night, we had a dinner. A lot of laughs. I haven't laughed that hard and that long into the evening in quite some time. So that was a great time. And then just to hang out with, you know, the players from all the different generations and get to see guys. We haven't. And we obviously haven't seen each other in quite some time, so it was really. I had a ton of fun. And then, to be honest with you, I didn't know what to really expect with the halftime. You know, I actually thought we were just going to walk out there and as a group and say hello, but that was obviously very, very special.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so. Man, that had to feel so good getting out there. Well, that was a loud Bob. That's a loud Bob. The head. The tip of the cap is the right play, too, by the way. I think that's good because it's more demonstrative. Everybody could see it. I think that's a good play by you. Natural in the pocket right there. I think you did well.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Well, when a hair stands up on the back of your neck, you got to definitely acknowledge the crowd. That was. I was blown away by it. It was. It was definitely special.
Pat McAfee
Well earned. Well deserved for a yinzer out there in Green Bay. Go ahead, AJ Coach.
A.J. Hawk
After week one, I feel like a lot of these teams, a lot of fan bases freak out one way or the other. Like, if they. If the team lost, like, oh, we suck, we're done. And then there's some teams that get a big home victory, and, you know, some of their loudest fans are saying, hey, we're the best. This is the best team that's ever existed in Indianapolis right now. And they're going to make a run and go undefeated when the Super Bowl. How do you kind of temper it either way? I guess, whether you win or lose week one, like, how do you not overreact?
Pat McAfee
We don't know.
Coach Mike McCarthy
No, I think that's. That's the part of our job as coaches and players, you know, just keep it above football. And that's where I think I know every team I've been a part of. You know, that's that. That's why you grind the way you do and that's why you schedule the way you schedule during the week and so forth. But, yeah, that's obviously very normal. We understand it. You love the fans and their energy and so forth. But you got to keep things in perspective, especially now. I think it's a 17 game season. There's so much football that needs to be played, you know, and then the fact that the packers have two linemen out tonight is a great example why you're not going to overreact to a big game, a big NFC football game. And I know we'll talk about that here in a minute, but it's a long, long year and you have to keep that in play here. And it's all about, you know, stacking success and success. Sometimes early season doesn't always come with the final score.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But with the way Indianapolis played, you could see how those people would be excited. You could see Danny Dimes. Dimes, yeah. He's putting the dimes in. Danny Nelson. Quentin Nelson leading, screaming, talking, motivating. Did you see that, A.J. quentin Nelson's the vocal leader of this Indianapolis Colts team. Danny Dimes throwing a ball over the yard. We got a Sasquatch in the first round out of Ohio State. This guy's unbelievable.
Boston Connor
He's a rookie and he's a savant already.
Pat McAfee
And the defense, don't even get me started. You know, about Gabagulu and he's got a full charcuterie board.
Boston Connor
Eyes on in front of Danny Dimes now.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Bortolini is snapping the ball out here. I mean, it's unbelievable. We got the squad now. Shane Steichen's job is to let all them know that we haven't won yet. Right. That is kind of what the coach's job and the messaging is. Or do you hope your culture is already established that everybody understands that after week one?
Coach Mike McCarthy
Well, culture never stays the same. So that's all part of the ride. It's all part of the development and the maintenance of it. So it's obviously Great to have that energy. I recall you and I talked about Daniel Jones, you know, during the draft. I'm. I'm excited for him. Did a lot of work on him back in 2019, and I'm just happy to see him have that success because I think he definitely could be a hell of a quarterback in our league.
Pat McAfee
He can run, brother. He can run. Nobody's talking about it.
Boston Connor
And he can take a shot.
Pat McAfee
Helmet to helmet. First quarter, who cares? Gets right up. Wow, that was pretty big. Little shot there. Am I going to fl. No. Flex. Don't need one. Don't need one. Ty has a question for you. Coach.
Ty Schmidt
Coach, you mentioned Micah Parsons was kind of chomping at the bit on Sunday to get out there. If you're the head coach of the packers, if you're Matt LaFleur, how do you handle, you know, how many snaps he's going to get tonight? You mentioned, you know, 45%. I think he played 29 of the 65 defensive plays. How difficult is that when you have a game like this, you know, on prime time and everything? And also, like, you know, he's going to affect the game. But you also understand, hey, we have a lot more we want to accomplish here, and maybe I don't need to be putting him out there on every single third down to get after Jaden Daniels.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Yeah, I think the biggest thing for Matt is just stick to his plan. I mean, he's going to obviously have a play count plan going into the game, and I think, obviously make sure you have plenty of time for the fourth quarter, you know, to adjust that, you know, make sure that plan accommodates that because, you know, trust your people, too. I mean, sports science will obviously tell you, you got to listen to it. It's week two coming off of a, you know, short week. Obviously didn't have much time in training camp, so you just got to be smart. And hey, if. If you tell Mike at 20, he's going to want 30. If you tell him 30, he's going to want 40.
Pat McAfee
So.
Coach Mike McCarthy
So I just think the most important thing is stick to the plan. And I think. And I think Micah knows that.
Pat McAfee
I'm excited to see Micah get out there and get after it. Third down's got to be out there.
Ty Schmidt
Has to be.
Pat McAfee
I mean, third downs. He has to be out there. Especially with Jaden now.
Boston Connor
Yes, you know.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely. I think you go to the first, third down in the game, I mean, he, you know, when he came onto the field, it's. The crowd erupted and you know, he had a defensive pressure, you know, affected the time clock. So, yeah, definitely. I mean, I. And situationally, I think you'll definitely see him there.
Pat McAfee
Defensively, what do you do against Jaden? What are you trying to get? The middle of the pocket. You're trying to keep him in pocket. We're trying to keep him in there. He's got to.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Oh, you got to keep him in. You got to keep him in there, number one. You got to set the edges. You know, speed to power with the anchor. But he is really good at A and B gaps. His A and B gap escape is, you know, for young guys, good as I've seen. I mean, Aaron to me was the best that I've seen and, you know, he did it forever from 2008 all the way through. But that a, that A and B gap release you saw last week on the Thursday night with Jalen Hurts. I mean, these guys that can step up and, and slide through the A and B gaps and make big plays, that's. That's going to be the huge challenge to. For Green Bay's defensive line, who I was. I mean, I thought those guys played exceptional. You know, I thought that the defensive line for the packers, you know, all the way across played well, but they got to keep him in the pocket, especially the rushing yards that, that, that he can produce. And I think he's, I think he's being very smart, selective when he does run, too. And, you know, all the way around, you know, this is a, this is an offense that's going to move the ball. You know, ball distribution is, I think, is excellent, but his ability to run is second level. You know, on top of this guy can make all the throws too now, so he is a young, special quarterback.
Pat McAfee
Let's talk about Cliff Kingsbury. Obviously, he had some hype around becoming a head coach. He's the offensive coordinator for the Washington Commanders last year, obviously sensational year with the rookie quarterback and Jaden Daniels maybe the best of all time whenever it comes to rookie quarterback, especially if they were able to go in the run that we all thought they were going to be able to go on this year. Only getting better, it seems. What is he like as a play caller? Do you do a diagnosis of all other play callers or how do you kind of judge other guys that are making play calls?
Coach Mike McCarthy
Well, first of all, like I said, you got four really good play callers up this week. So I thought, you know, both, you know, Matt Hafley called a very good game in Week 1 for the Packers. And same with Joe Whitten and Cliff here for the. For Washington. So I think all the way. I know that's what I'm going to be watching, but yeah, I think Cliff does an exceptional job getting the ball distributed. I mean, their perimeter, they got, they got playmakers throughout the perimeter. And the thing I've always looked at is the number of rushes, first completions. And you know, Washington, I think was probably 82% of their plays last week were either rushed or completed. And I think the packers were. It was even higher, probably 87%. But you know, they both didn't have big numbers of total plays, but they do a really good job getting the ball distributed. Both Jordan love and Jaden, 82% rush.
Pat McAfee
And completion percentage for the Washington Commanders, probably more for the Packers. What is like a winning number there? Is that a stat that you rely on?
Coach Mike McCarthy
75%. Yeah, something, I mean, as a goal. I mean goals and offense, we always would talk about, you know, 72 plays. Our goal is if we get 72 cracks at the defense, we are going to have a huge day. So obviously, you know, time of possession benefits your, your whole football team. Field position. Keeping your defense off the field, obviously taking care of the ball is a priority. But on a 72 play game, 75% of that would be 55. You know, 55 was always. That was the golden number. If you had rushes plus completions, it was 55 or more. You're going to have a big day on offense. So the fact that they didn't have a lot of total plays last week, which, which happens, you know, the kind of games that they were in. But the fact that is their, their efficiency on offense, both for Washington and Green Bay was really high.
Pat McAfee
Well, if you can get 55 out of 72, that's obviously dependent upon the speed, power and anchoring of the defensive line. You know what I mean? So there's a lot.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Oh, there you go.
Pat McAfee
A guy you made a lot of magic with, obviously on the offensive side of the ball. Aaron Rodgers now started his brand new era in your hometown of Pittsburgh. Go ahead, Tone.
Cowboys AP Tone
Yeah, Coach, I don't know if you've seen. No big deal. Aaron is leading the league in touchdowns. That's four touchdowns, zero interceptions. How did you think the first game for Aaron went? And how do you think him and Artie Smith kind of went through the game together?
Coach Mike McCarthy
I think it went just like his whole career has gone, you know, touchdowns versus interceptions. I mean, it's just, it's just amazing. You know, his Discipline, you know, in decision making. But no, I thought he looked very comfortable. I thought he just, you know, played to the tempo of the offense. I mean, the only negative was the sacks. But, I mean, he just has to get a feel for those guys, because as I touched on earlier, you know, the A and B gap release in the past game, I mean, you know, that's. That's a huge strength of his, so. But yeah, I thought those guys, I thought they definitely looked on the same page. And he looked really comfortable on the offense.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And he was happy to get a win against the Jets, I'll tell you that.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Yeah, that's what I heard.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he was pretty pumped up about it. Brother Connor has a question for you, Mike.
Boston Connor
Yeah, coach. Young quarterback. I won't say rookie, we've been saying rookie, but it was his first career start and he missed his entire rookie year. J.J. mcCarthy, in primetime, he had about two and a half, three quarters of absolute shites. But then he turned it on, you know, turned the whole game around and ended up winning for the Vikings. What did you think about his first performance? Did you expect kind of a slow start and then for him to settle in? And when you were a coach and you were dealing with quarterbacks, you know, whether it was their first year or first start or, you know, first start with a new team, was there any advice you would give some of the younger quarterbacks, you know, some tricks of the trade, maybe while you were coaching some of those younger guys?
Coach Mike McCarthy
Yeah, I'll just work backwards first. I think you definitely coach it. You definitely want your guys to, you know, make that first impression when you do have the rookie quarterback. You know, I just remember one story. We had Alex Smith in San Francisco, and Mike Nolan wanted to make sure he made a huge impression on the offensive guys in the first minicamp. So we had spent a bunch of time with him, you know, prior to that minicamp. And then when he first stepped in the huddle, you can almost look at the other quarterbacks because he, you know, technically wasn't on campus at that time. So when he stepped in the huddle and was able to communicate very well that, you know, he definitely made that first impression. So it's something that you're very, very cognizant of. And, you know, as you go through it is. It gives. It gives the young man an opportunity to really express himself. And that's really what I would go to, is be yourself within your personality. But, you know, the command is critical for the offense and especially for young Quarterbacks. And going back to the first part of the question, you know, I didn't see the early part of the game, frankly. I actually. When I got home, I actually saw the. All the good stuff for Minnesota. I just think back in my conversation up there, I went to the Michigan pro day or two years ago when JJ and that whole group was coming out, and it just made me think of all the things that have been said about him, all the great things that have been said about him this week is I had a conversation with Jack Harbaugh, Mr. Jack Harbaugh. And I think anytime, you know, Mr. Jack or Mrs. Jackie Harbaugh speak, I always listen. And Mr. Harbaugh was just talking about how the kid is loved by everybody in the university. He would, you know, play baseball with his grandson up at the indoor facility in the winter. But, I mean, he's just that guy, you know, he was that guy at Michigan. And, you know, and that always, to me, always plays well in the leadership role in the locker room with your teammates and so forth. So it was nice to see him get off, you know, not get off to that start, but have that kind of. Have. Have that kind of. Those kind of moments in a game because, you know, that's now, you know, that's a standard that I know he will hold himself to. And obviously that's a bit. That's a big day for the Minnesota Vikings.
Pat McAfee
Jack Harbaugh, who's got it better than us? Nobody. And then you think about Jim Harbaugh being JJ's grand coach, the amount of things that he has said in leadership and framing and mentality. And then the story comes out about JJ in the huddle saying, is there anywhere else you'd rather be, boys? That's why I thought little Jack Harbaugh in him, you know, maybe a little. Maybe a little Jim Harbaugh in him throughout its entirety, was fun to watch him. Okay, tonight, three and a half points spread. Coach Mike McCarthy. Now, you didn't make an official pick last week, you won't make an official pick this week, but you lean leaned heavily into an undefeated start in picking games. Just wanna let you know that three and a half points is what Washington is getting in Lambeau. If you were a friend of yours, like, let's say, I don't know if you consider us friends, but let's say me. Yeah. Okay. And you were to be advising me on how you think this game goes. What would your prediction of the game be if that was the case?
Coach Mike McCarthy
Well, I. I definitely gotta put Everything out here, you know, I'm technically a fan this year, so I got three teams I'm really rooting for as a fan, you know, Pittsburgh, Green Bay and Dallas. So those. Those are my. Those are three teams I'm really watching closely. But as a pure teammate of your show, I think, number one, this is going to be a hell of an NFC game. You're not. Not too many times, you know, especially when you think about as a player coach, they go, man, you know, week two could have playoff implications. You know, I think this game, when you look at Washington, you know, you think about, you know, NFC championship game. You got a playoff team, an older team, an established team. I really like the way they played in week one. I thought they established their playstyle. I thought they were fast. I thought they were physical. I mean, you know what you're going to get. But also being there live, watching Green Bay, watching Green Bay last week, you know, I think I was really, really impressed with their team speed and the way they were flying around. I love Jordan. Love. Especially early in the game, I thought Matt did an excellent job sticking with the run, you know, after they struggle a little bit in the first half. So, I mean, this is going to be about stopping the run. I think both. Both teams are definitely going to have to stop the run. Green Bay is going to have to keep Jaden, you know, keep his rushing yards down to have success. But it's at Lambeau Field, and I think it's going to be a great night for the Green.
Pat McAfee
Okay. All right, we appreciate that. We will read into that exactly how I think Tone was reading into that to make himself feel a little bit better. We appreciate the hell out of you, coach. Thanks for the AJ Hawk photo in the back. Thanks for the great lighting. You look cool again. I mean, you're really crushing it for us.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Just trying to fit in. Just. I gotta get some black shirts, it looks like, but trying to fit in.
Pat McAfee
Trying to hang out with the guy, ladies and gentlemen. Man, that's good. Go. Great golf, coach. That's observance.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Yeah, it definitely helped me a little bit.
Pat McAfee
Let's be honest. I'm not saying that that was you. That was.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Yeah. Get mom on the Internet here.
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, super bowl winning coach Mike McCarthy. It's going to be a good night for Green. Goal here. You think he's going to the game again?
A.J. Hawk
He's the man. Good question. I don't know. I.
Pat McAfee
Such good gate, aj why weren't you at that? I didn't want to bring it up in front of your coach.
A.J. Hawk
But I texted with it beforehand. Yeah, no, you know, I had. We got a lot of kids games and stuff happen on weekends they couldn't get there.
Pat McAfee
Would love to make all the alumni.
A.J. Hawk
Maybe like, maybe November, December, it's a little easier to get there on Sunday.
Pat McAfee
That happens a lot. A lot of so many things, like, hey, we're doing a blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and I feel like the biggest asshole of all time. And then whenever they're there and I'm wherever I'm at, which I certainly could not make it, get a couple of texts making me feel bad about it, and then it's always like, man, you don't think I wish I was much rather there now? There's a couple times sometimes get a chance to hang out with the dollar a little bit. You miss it all. You want to do that, but it's like, that seemed like a magical weekend there. How about Mike McCarthy getting a chance for the first time probably whole career, so just like, kind of reap an applause that he had definitely sowed for years and years there in Green Bay, and now he's calling the place home. That had to feel so good for him. I'm happy that happened for him.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, that was awesome. You heard it, especially the way he let, like. And it wasn't even really his fault. It's just, you know, things kind of ran their course. There was always the. The stories about, like, him and Aaron stopped getting along or, you know, whatever the case may be. And he did kind of have, like, an unceremonious exit from Green Bay, which wasn't necessarily fair. A lot of fans kind of on him on the way out because that was one of the years that, you know, the Packers, I think, were like 5 and 9 maybe or something like that, and they fired him during the season. And Joe Philbin was the interim coach for the rest of the way. So the fact that he got to come back and celebrate like that, and also the fact that the packers were kicking the lion's ass. So, like, the environment in the stadium on top of this, like, it was just. It was a perfect day. Like, I'm super happy before him. It was awesome.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, good for the Packers. Get a chance to celebrate the boys. AJ I assume a lot of your friends were there getting a chance to get recognized.
A.J. Hawk
Oh, yeah, I was getting text from him, but yeah, you. I like that that coach can, like, he accepted it. Like you were telling him, hey, this is awesome.
Pat McAfee
And he's.
A.J. Hawk
He's not trying to Deflect or whatever. He's very humble, dude, but he's like, yeah, this was amazing. He said, it doesn't get old, obviously. I think it's really. I think it's really cool that he, like, he understands. He's like, yeah, this place is amazing. That's why I moved back here. Like, he lives there now. It's pretty sweet.
Pat McAfee
The hair standing up on his neck. He said, you know, it's like, well, I had to do something. Yeah. Yeah. My body was like, yo, yo, look at this. The hair's okay. I'll do it.
Cowboys AP Tone
Would have been cool if Aaron could.
Pat McAfee
Have been there, but he's too busy throwing four touchdown passes. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who could probably sling four touchdown passes right now if he had to. If not him, at least Darren. Yeah.
Boston Connor
Yeah. Four.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Boston Connor
Okay. Double it.
Pat McAfee
Ten.
Boston Connor
Yeah. With 250 on the ground.
Pat McAfee
Derrick Henry High School numbers.
Boston Connor
Bingo.
Pat McAfee
55 touchdowns in one season. That's what this guy could do. This guy happens to know this guy. This guy also talks to that guy.
Boston Connor
This guy is kind of the other guy.
Pat McAfee
This guy is the other guy whenever it comes to this particular setting. He's also the voice of Thursday Night Football on Prime alongside Al Michael Michaels. Kicking off every NFL weekend for us in a wonderful fashion, ladies and gentlemen. Commentating a huge game tonight. And then we'll have an electrifying weekend both at game day and Tennessee, Georgia. Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Herbstreet.
Kirk Herbstreit
How we doing, boys?
Pat McAfee
I like. Okay, so where you're at a hotel in Green Bay right now. We got some great. I'll give you the. I'll give you the view. Oh, yeah.
A.J. Hawk
I know where he's at. We know where that is.
Pat McAfee
AJ Tracked your tail number.
A.J. Hawk
No, I know what hotel it does, though.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Okay. Peter. Love that. All right.
Kirk Herbstreit
How about this? There you go.
Cowboys AP Tone
That's the hotel we were in for the draft.
Pat McAfee
Isn't it history right there, brother? I mean.
Kirk Herbstreit
And by the way, look. Look at the. Look at the weather.
Pat McAfee
I mean.
Kirk Herbstreit
Aj Ty, can it get any better?
Ty Schmidt
No.
Pat McAfee
Wow. Hey, where's those. Oh, zoom in. All ammo. What you're looking at here is a place that was basically one of the front runners of leading the way for the NFL's growth and development. Their passion, their fan, their history. The historic Lambeau Field with Steve Sable and the NFL films became the standard of television and production for a sport and a league. Saying Curly Lambo way back in the day had a vision of all these things. And now they're hosting Thursday Night Football on a streaming service. Wow. This is the future. This is everything. How do you feel about tonight's game? We just got done talking to Mike McCarthy. He feels good about the green and gold. He will be going to the game. I hope you get a chance to say hello. He's a Yinzer legend, obviously. Good guy, loves ball, loves the Green Bay area and loves the Packers. You love Jaden Daniels coming out of college. You actually told us, hey, the one nobody's talking about right now is Jaden Daniels. He's going to be the guy it was army, navy game. We're in the parking lot in Foxborough and you said it and end up being very true last year. And it seems like it's only going to continue and grow. How do you think tonight goes and who do you think should be getting a little bit more of the conversation this.
Kirk Herbstreit
This game? I, you know, I think Micah Parsons coming in adds to the intrigue. But. But I think even before that, this game is about as good as you could hope for for us, you know, for our opening game to start our season. You mentioned Jaden Daniels. You know, this is a team that went all the way to the NFC championship game a year ago, and. And Dan Quinn's first year just changed this really, the. The trajectory of the franchise. And I think having Jaden Daniels has obviously helped. But you bring up. Bring over Debo Samuel now for Cliff Kingsbury, another weapon, another opportunity to kind of move him around. Good news is Terry McLaurin is locked in. And I was just talking to Jaden this week about just trying to get the timing down. And they've spent a lot of time after practice to try to get some makeup reps to try to get things right. And they're going up against. I don't know about you guys. That opening weekend, that was the best defensive effort not only of the weekend, but. But probably the best the Green Bay packers have looked as a unit in a long, long time.
Ty Schmidt
I know people 10 years, 15 years.
Kirk Herbstreit
I mean, you're gonna. I think a lot of people are gonna point to Michael Parsons, but I think it's Jeff Halfley. And the combination of just second year in the system the entire. Every time I stop the film, there's 11 green jerseys flying to the football. And I think Parsons helped you really get this stadium engaged. And. And Mike being back probably helped with that. But it was as an electric of atmosphere. In fact, Matt LaFleur told me this week that it's been a long time since he's heard the stadium that loud if ever since he's been the head coach. So there's a lot of juice right now in Green Bay. There's a lot of belief. Jordan Love has really grown up. You know, he sat there behind a Hall of Famer for three years and very proud by the way, from what he told me this week to be able to, to sit there for three years and learn from Aaron. And then, you know, he was kind of a young guy and not only was he young, there are a lot of young pieces around him. And now these guys have all had an opportunity to work together for these last couple years and now in his third year as a starter, they have grown and I think they are now a team. Not only that's going to be fun to watch tonight, but as Ty will tell you, I think all year I think they're a legit team, NFC championship contender if they can stay healthy. I think the defense is real and I think with this offense now in the third year of Matt along with with Jordan Love and the pieces that they have, don't be shocked. I mean, Matthew golden is a guy that, you know, I think you go back to the draft, a lot of people were talking about a lot of different guys. Golden, to me, I don't know if it'll happen tonight, but at some point that I think he's going to be a guy that could potentially be in the rookie of the year conversation. I think he's the guy that could be electrifying ridiculous ball skills and you put him into this system with the, the pieces that they have. I'm excited to see what he can do. But then again, he's going up against the defense that's got a lot of new faces up front. I don't know if you saw Ken Law last week. Holy cow. Just a game wrecker. Finally healthy. So yeah, there's a lot. Dude, this is, this is excited as I've been for a Thursday night game in a long time.
Pat McAfee
Let's go. We like that.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
You talked about Laur talking about the environment being the loudest it's ever been. He has tried to get that stadium since he got there. He is a big one of these guys, you know, he's a big one of these in his pants with the eyebrows. Unbelievable. He will be super intense. He will do this one here. He understands the value of a good home field advantage. And I was told that when Micah went out there, the pop was outrageous. I mean it was like a huge welcoming to it all. And then Whenever he went out for the first, third down, Mike McCarthy said as soon as he went out there for first, third down to place one.
Ty Schmidt
And when he got his sack, the.
Pat McAfee
Place went absolutely crazy. And then the boys went crazy too. It's like the vibes feel like very, very good for them. And if you're the Washington commanders, they held the Giants to how many points last week? Six. Six points. Yuck. They got to feel damn good about where they're at and talking about feeling good. Amazon should feel great about this. Yeah. And this is. I'm pumped for you guys. We are all very pumped for you guys that this game is happening. Go ahead, A.J.
A.J. Hawk
Yeah, Kirk, I don't know if the coaches, you know, give you any insight when you have your production meetings, but the packers offensive line is a bit banged up. Going to have some, some new guys in there, maybe not a ton of experience together. What do you think they do to try to help those guys out? If you know, to maybe slow down this Washington rush? And is Josh Jacobs going to be able to find a way to pick up some, some valuable yardage on the ground?
Kirk Herbstreit
Not surprised. You're all over it. It's a huge story. Zach Tom, especially the right tackle, it's really sad that, you know, he ends up getting injured on a play that didn't even count. You know, the potential pick six that Aiden Hutchinson pushed Jordan Love into him. He goes down and I think it's going to be a game time decision. They're very, very hopeful. Obviously he can go, but if he's down, he cannot go. Significant loss. Jordan Morgan also may have to go in and play some guard. Darian Kennard, who I think he's had one start in his career, that was last year where he gave Lane Johnson a little bit of a break. At week 18 in Philly. He if Zach Tom can't go, he'll probably be the guy that ends up starting. Anthony Belton, who's a rookie as well. Kid out of NC State, probably get some reps, but that is a big time concern. This is an offense that wants to be balanced. Last week you saw what they can do throwing the football. But if you really watch these guys, Josh Jacobs, I don't know if you could hand pick a better back because of his physicality, because of the weather as the seasons change, he is a perfect fit for what LaFleur likes to do. But that line of scrimmage I think is a massive conversation tonight. Especially if they're dinged up going against Payne and Ken Law and Armstrong and Wise. Dan Quinn said, hey, we got all the way to the NFC championship game, but we had to make some changes. They brought in four guys to that defensive line. They upgraded a corner. So this is going to be a real test. This is kind of a litmus test to really find out how much Washington has improved as a unit and especially on the defensive side of the ball and against his Green Bay offense.
Pat McAfee
Dan Quinn always has good deeds. You would assume hold Giants to six. I assume they're going to want to hunt tonight, especially if there's a couple guys out on an offensive line. Offensive line not good. Nothing good. That is just the story of every single game. Last question about tonight before we move on to different subjects. Go ahead, Ty.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Herbie. A lot of people are talking about various different things. Pack packers offense, Micah Jaden Daniels, etc. Etc. But no one's really talking about Bill Crosby Merritt and you know, no one really knew who this guy was when he got drafted. They trade Brian Robinson, he gets the lion's share of the carries on Sunday and he looked unbelievable. Like how big of an impact do you think he's going to have not only tonight but the whole year on this, this team's offense?
Kirk Herbstreit
I think it's huge. And, and I, and I, I don't know if he just is Bill, straight up Bill. I was talking to the, to their coaches about, you know, Jakory, Crosby, Merritt who was Arizona and only played one game last year because some eligibility issues and by the way when he only got to play one game. They're trying to figure out the eligibility issues in Tucson. Dudes down at the scout team running against the first team defense, trying to instead of just saying this is BS why am I doing this? He's kind of gives you a little bit about his attitude. Typical 7th round draft pick playing with a chip on his shoulder. Runs hungry and with Eckler more of a third down guy and with Brian Robinson who's, who's obviously no longer here, they moved him. It's, it's a huge story. And this guy kind of came out of nowhere, won the job essentially in camp and it's one of these feel good stories because of his, his story and where he came from. But guy didn't play hardly at all. Nobody including the Mel Kuipers that were probably as much as they build their list of the draft. Not a whole lot of people knew much about this guy. But who goes by the just the name Bill, no last name, just call me Bill. But tonight if they're if they're going to, if they're going to do their thing off. As much as we're going to focus in on Jaden Daniels, our boy Bill 22 is, is going to have to be featured and have to have a big night.
Pat McAfee
All right, last question before we head to the digital world of YouTube.
Kirk Herbstreit
What's the clock say?
Pat McAfee
Got three minutes. Got three minutes. Okay. But.
Kirk Herbstreit
All right.
Pat McAfee
It's worthy of a good three minutes. Well, obviously wrap this thing up in about two minutes and 30 seconds. Talking about tonight's game.
Boston Connor
Sure.
Pat McAfee
And we will expect you to give some sort of lean. Even though I'm calling a game, I can't pick it. Okay. All right. Yeah, I hate that. But let's talk about the big weekend for college, especially for us. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah.
Cowboys AP Tone
However you guys are going to knock ville Tennessee where Georgia has had their number the last eight. I believe in hypo hasn't been good against Kirby since he's been there. But do you think there's a chance that this year with this new Tennessee offense with Agalar has a has a chance against the the Dogs?
Kirk Herbstreit
Ton, I love your college football knowledge. I, I, I love it, man. I, you, I know you know the NFL inside now, but I love how you, you get knee deep in the college world. I waste, I'm, I'm really falling in love with Aguilar. I don't know if it should be just because of the circumstances. I turned on the film this week, you know, getting ready for this game, getting ready for that game. And I was excited to kind of look at Georgia and Tennessee because they just been a little bit, both these teams a bit off the radar these first couple weeks. Let me tell you that this offense of Tennessee's is. They've reloaded out at wide receiver. They got some new backs, obviously a new quarterback, but they, they're still running that Josh Hyple scheme. But this is Georgia, right. And this is a, this is where you really find out where you are as an offense but what he's doing. And for the guy that went from app State to ucla, then Nico comes to ucla, he goes to Knoxville. The guy again two weeks in seems to be in complete command. Just a guy. It's nil transfer portal era looks to be a guy that you kind of know what you're going to get. But Josh Hyple has done great work with him up to this point. But this will be a big test because, man, when I turned on the film to look at Georgia because there's a lot of new faces on that Georgia defense. They are still recruiting and developing.
Pat McAfee
Wow.
Kirk Herbstreit
They can fly their physical, athletic. They've just completely reloaded and they can get after it. So great game. Being in Knoxville obviously gives them an advantage, but historically, since Hypo has been in Knoxville, he has struggled against Kirby smart defense. So they got to come up with some answers this week, even though this game's at home. But Georgia, I feel like people are forgetting a little bit about Georgia, forgetting a little bit about Oregon as far as, like, who are teams that can make a run and be there at the end. And I think Georgia this week will be fun to kind of really see where they are because this will be a good test for them, obviously, going on the road in Knoxville.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I think for both of them, it's a hello to the entire world, you know, like, hey, remember us? And tonight it's hello from the Commanders and the packers with Kirk Herbstreet on the call alongside Al and Kaylee Hartsong. We'll see you then. Yeah, yeah, we got there. Good answer by you. Good answer by you as well. Good answer.
Kirk Herbstreit
Hey, by the way, really, really appreciated your. Your tweet under, you know, the last 24 hours. What's, you know, 9, 11 today, what happened yesterday. I thought your. Your words. Of what you said about yesterday. I've looked at a lot of things that. That was about as well stated as I think anything, and it's. It's really hard to put your.
Pat McAfee
Your.
Kirk Herbstreit
Your. Your thoughts together, you know, like, how do you even express how you're feeling? But of all the things I've. I've seen, that was about as well said as. As any of them. So I appreciate you putting that out there.
Pat McAfee
Well, thanks, man. It's obviously not easy. I felt an obligation, you know, because, like. Yeah, I, I legitimately did because what he. I didn't know him. Okay.
Kirk Herbstreit
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
He followed us, which I learned. Wow. He fought. He followed a lot of people, though. 100 some thousand. He didn't have information on everything. Yeah. From watching, he needed. Needed to know everything about everything. And he had some sports takes that I had seen in the past. But just like being the guy that's kind of known as. I want to go talk to people I don't agree with. Yeah. Like, that is something that we need, I think. You know, so I was always, like, pretty inspired by that. Doesn't mean that every word that comes out of his mouth is something that I'm gonna. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kirk Herbstreit
But it's like, also, my kid, my kids know him better than I do. I, I obviously, you know, seen some of his stuff over, over the last few years. But I'm with you. I think it comes to, you know, from what I understand, you know, he'd go on these college campuses, and it was basically an open mic, and people would go up there and give him an opportunity to get into conversation a lot of times, a debate, and it's crazy, you know, the world that we're currently living in, so divisive and just so. It's hard to really understand it a lot of times. So I just thought that your, your words were, Were well put together and.
Pat McAfee
Thanks, man.
Kirk Herbstreit
Like I said, I, I, I don't. I never really followed politics my whole life. You know, AJ and I from Centerville, we. All we did was play football. And, you know, we, we loved each other and, and, you know, we, we cared about each other. And I didn't really get caught up in a lot of that. That stuff and seem 2020, it's been very radical, you know, one way or the other. And, man, it's, it's wild when you don't really partake in that. And then to see how, how crazy it can be. It's either one's what seems to be one extreme or the other. It seems like when I was growing up, everything was more in the middle. Kind of agreed a little bit here, kind of agreed a little bit here. Everybody lived in the middle, and now it just seems like it's really out there on both sides.
Pat McAfee
I agree. And everybody feels as if they have to one up the other person that they feel the most that way. I feel like that has become like a complex on the Internet, I think, like, yeah, people want to prove that they're the most this, you know, from both sides. And I've been dropped into a fire, political fire, multiple times.
Kirk Herbstreit
I know.
Pat McAfee
And I've had both sides, you know, kind of come in there. And I always joke that the only thing I really know about politics is that they yell at each other all the time, that they just yell at each other all the time. And it's like at some point we gotta get to the realization. And with all the information we have nowadays, we have to get to the point that we understand that we're gonna disagree with people. And then we can still.
Kirk Herbstreit
It's okay though, right?
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we can still move and not just necessarily be disgusted and hate the person. Like, hey, maybe let's try to engage here so we maybe have a better understanding of how we all so that we can just have a more, you know, kumbaya existence. But Jesus. Yeah. Yesterday is an eye opener. And then you think back, I mean, the fact that today is September 11, like September 12, 2001, you obviously older than I am, but in an age and AJ as well, it's like I remember what that was like. Like, I think that was every neighborhood and the entire country felt the exact same way. And it's like, we need to figure out how without having something like that happen, we have to figure out like, hey, let's go, you know, So I appreciate you saying something, but I felt like this can't be in my eyes as somebody that has certainly gotten my fair share of people not wanting me to be alive. It's like, hey, come on, we're allowed to disagree with people. And then we got like, this can't be what we become. And obviously Charlie Kirk and him just. You talked about what he does. Him just sitting there and welcoming thousands of people that he disagrees with is like such a thing that I would not be able to do. You know, that's a scary situation. Just I think from everything that happens on the Internet, what we read, and it's like watching it all unfold, it's like, golly, man, this can't be who we are. This can't be who we are. And obviously dad, husband, everything like that, human, 31 years old, old, you know, like all that stuff. It's like for me as a 38 year old, it's like that with a daughter and a wife and it like everything happening, it's like I felt obligated, but also like, we can't do this, you know, so rest in peace to Charlie Kirk, but also our country. We cannot be like that. And tonight we celebrate the greats that our country has to offer. The best league on planet earth is the NFL. Kicking off week two tonight on prime with the commanders and the Packers. Kirk, I think we're in for a great game tonight. I'm excited to hear you guys on the call.
Kirk Herbstreit
Yeah, we're fired up. This should be a great one. Great way to set the tone for the whole weekend. I think it's going to live up to the hype. These two quarterbacks, as you guys know, are a lot of fun to watch every single week, let alone going head to head against each other. I think both these teams are playoff teams at the end of the season, and it's great to get them against each other early in the year to just kind of find out Who. Who these teams are and Micah Parsons coming in. I was just talking to Jeff Halfley, the defense coordinator from Green Bay, before I hopped on with you guys, and he was just talking about. I mean, he's like, we probably had 25 real snaps with this guy as far as practice reps. And so this is not a guy that's, you know, that. That has had a lot of opportunities to learn our scheme. He said. But I'll tell you what, his football IQ is awful. The charts, because he's not just lining up playing backyard football. He's playing within the structure of the defense and doing a lot of different things, moving around. And, you know, this is going to be fun to watch how he impacts this game tonight against. Not. Not Jared Goff, but a very athletic Jaden Daniels, who's a handful and creating and QB run. So should be. Should be a fun one tonight, man.
Pat McAfee
How about how happy Halfley has to be that Jerry Jones comes out and goes, maka can't stop to run. So Micah now is like. Is that right? Yeah. Is that right? So, you know, like, he literally. Go ahead.
Kirk Herbstreit
You're all over it. You're all. I mean, it's exactly. I said to Jeff, I said it was. It was fun to watch. We all know what he can do off the edge. I said, but, man, against Sewell, one of the best tackles in the game, he's out there just throwing it, you know, just in there battling against the run.
Pat McAfee
And.
Kirk Herbstreit
And I. And he said exactly what you just mentioned. He said he's incredibly motivated right now to show people not only is he a great pass rusher, but this dude's the total package, you know, so he's. He's. He also gave us a great quote last night about when. When people you love kind of let you down. It's an incredible motivator. And so this guy, like, it happens often. This guy's in the middle of the. Just knocking on the prime of his career and feels that he was let go and denied. And I think because of that, this, he's just playing with a lot of intensity, embracing his new teammate in a perfect fit.
Pat McAfee
What a mistake. What was Jerry thinking?
Ty Schmidt
Got his feelings hurt. He traded away a Hall of Famer.
Cowboys AP Tone
That's not how you do business.
Pat McAfee
In the middle of the documentary, too, about how we did business.
Ty Schmidt
I love it. Thank you, Jerry. Thank you, Jerry.
Cowboys AP Tone
And for the motivation.
Pat McAfee
And for the motivation, I guess run a little bit fat. Yeah. Okay. Anything else? You can't catch either. Put them on off it.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
Pat McAfee
Send them out there. All right, Kirk, we appreciate you, buddy. We'll see you down in Tennessee.
Kirk Herbstreit
You can't wait. You guys have a great one.
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, Kirk Hershey. Tonight's game is going to be epic.
Boston Connor
So good.
Pat McAfee
All right, let's take a break on the other side. We'll make our picks and wrap up all the storylines that we haven't hit yet on this glorious September 11, 2025, where hopefully our world comes together more than it's ever been.
A.J. Hawk
AJ Yep. Hopefully.
Pat McAfee
I don't know. That sounds like a lot of pessimists.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Good attitude.
A.J. Hawk
No, no, no. I'm just. I'm all for, like, rational humans and common sense.
Coach Mike McCarthy
Yes.
Pat McAfee
Hell, yeah.
Cowboys AP Tone
That would be nice.
Pat McAfee
Amen. Amen. But in reality, you got to have to deal with stuff that isn't like that, you know? And I hope, as we continue to move forward. Forward. We understand that. Hey, just. Because we don't have to literally. You think like this on one thing. Okay, Well, I hate you. I learned that. Hey, Canada, don't boo our national anthem, okay? That's what I said. Because I grew up playing an Olympic sport. And if you ever hear me talk about anything, I'm very proud to be from the United States of America. And it's like, yeah, anything. Time the Olympics come around, we're beating them. We are America. Like, that is how sports people, I think, feel natural. Now, I learned through that entire thing that there's a lot of people that don't feel that way. And also, if I feel that way, that must mean that I also feel boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And it's like, I just didn't want these to boom. My national. What do we. What do we even. They're booing my dad. You know, I don't like the thought of them booing my dad, my mom, my family, my friends. I. I don't. I don't like that. Well, since that's the case, you also. It's like, come on, man. We don't have to be like that. I don't have it. Because that's not reality. We all understand that that's not reality. So, like, let's just. Let's pour our source down. Crazy day yesterday. Yeah. All right. We'll be back on the other side. Let's make our picks. Hell yeah. Big one tonight. Hey, we're seeing the board, too, aj. Remember that? Yeah.
A.J. Hawk
Oh, yeah. What? Three and a half? Is that the line right now?
Pat McAfee
Yep.
Cowboys AP Tone
Or three.
Pat McAfee
Or three.
Boston Connor
Three for the Packers.
A.J. Hawk
Oh, okay. All right, I'll take that into account.
Pat McAfee
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Kirk Herbstreit
You've seen the headlines, heard the debates.
Pat McAfee
The three point ball has created a.
Ty Schmidt
Monotonous rhythm to the game.
Kirk Herbstreit
Has the three pointer ruined basketball? And how did we get here?
Pat McAfee
The rise of the three point shot.
Kirk Herbstreit
Can be partially traced to an eccentric.
Pat McAfee
Kansas genius named Martin Manley, whose story didn't turn out quite the way he imagined.
Boston Connor
I decided I wanted to have one.
Pat McAfee
Of the most organized goodbyes in history.
Kirk Herbstreit
30 for 30 podcast presents Chasing Basketball Heaven.
Pat McAfee
Available now wherever you get your podcasts. Football magical. That's college football national champion, super bowl champion Ryder cup winner AJ Hawk, the talks tables here at Boston. Connor and that Ty Schmidt. Big one for the packers tonight.
Ty Schmidt
Massive one. This is, I mean, you know, you could almost say this is a do or die game.
Pat McAfee
I love that. Week two, we're already there Thursday night. Week two, we're already there. First Thursday night game for prime of the season. Do or die for both teams. One half of the hammer done. Cowboys AP Tone is here. Tone, what is the update on the public percentage of money on what tonight?
Cowboys AP Tone
58% of the money is on the commanders currently at +3 and a half.
Pat McAfee
And then the over under number that.
Cowboys AP Tone
Is still at 96% on the under.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so people really like the under and we think we're getting some faulty information here. This seems very weird to have 96% of public human beings wishing for bad football or very defensive heavy football. There was a trend of the week one of the NFL season 12 four to the under is what happened there. So AJ maybe this is just going to be the trend and the sports books are overshooting or what are your thoughts on whether or not this is a cagey affair or maybe a blockbuster?
A.J. Hawk
I don't know. Didn't Coach, didn't Coach McCarthy say that he thought there's this could be a high flying, high scoring game?
Cowboys AP Tone
I looked it up earlier. Just a little tidbit. Matt LaFleur against Dan Quinn. Dan Quinn, obviously the head coach and, you know, the defensive mastermind of the Commanders packers, scored 48 against him in the playoff game against Dallas.
Pat McAfee
Right?
Cowboys AP Tone
31. The meeting before that, the packers scored against Dallas the year before that, and then 30. In Lafleur's first year in Green Bay, when Dan Quinn was in Atlanta, they scored 30. So 48, 31, and 30. LaFleur has scored against Dan Quinn.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so Mitt said it's going over.
Boston Connor
He did earlier today.
Pat McAfee
Whenever he heard about the under in there, it sounds like AJ feels the exact same way. 48 and a half. Is that still the over under? 96% of the money is on one side, and they haven't moved it.
Boston Connor
Yeah, it's the tale of two numbers here, like the 12 and 4 to the under. So that's the trend for the NFL. But then the public sucks right now, and now the public's on the under. So it feels like one of the two is wrong. And unfortunately, it feels like our very own McMahon is a genius. Baby, it's going over.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he was very excited about that. From the other side of the room, that bad boy's going over. Yeah, man, that's crazy. Couple of NFL stories that we haven't chatted about, and then we'll get to our picks before we get out of here. On this glorious Week two of the NFL season. Kickoff Thursday. Lamar Jackson was cramping. You hear about this, obviously, big conversation towards the end of that Baltimore Buffalo game. 4th and 3. 4th and 3. Harbaugh doesn't go for it, decides to punt. Josh Allen do what he do, and they go ahead and win that game. Josh Allen cements the MVP maybe. And for Lamar Jackson, he has to answer questions about. Is he drinking pickle juice over there? Here he is. I was actually cramping a job before, a job before that. You know, the turnover happened. But I went to the sideline. If anybody paid attention, I was drinking pickle juice on the sideline already. I'm like, sarah, I need to get hydrated. Like, I'm cramping. I'm starting to feel cramps. And then we went back out there and. And obviously, you know, my fourth and three happened. But if I wasn't cramping, we definitely would have went for it. We definitely would have went for it, I believe.
A.J. Hawk
Where was it cramped as you were?
Boston Connor
Both of my calves.
Pat McAfee
Like, you know how they said, like, the Browns game? I had a poop game or something. That's how I was. But I was like, I was better off. Cause it Wasn't like, happening right then and there. Like, I just felt it like, coming on. But yeah, I was cramping again. I don't know where that come from. Cuz if I had used the bathroom, I would have said it. Like, I don't got no problem with saying that. I'm a grown man. I'm a grown man.
Kirk Herbstreit
Everybody poops.
Pat McAfee
Okay. I would tell you if I was taking a dump in the middle of the game, but now that we think about it, calf cramp and big dumps. Kind of a similar.
Ty Schmidt
Similar waddle.
Pat McAfee
Similar waddle. Now we know that we learned that through Lamar Jackson. Yeah. And two boots, you know, two springs out there, you kind of get a little of piece poop. Two calves. Cramping sucks. That is a nightmare. And I know a lot of people are saying, well, stay hydrated. It's like sometimes that just. You're just gonna get cramped up. I mean, it is a lot of.
A.J. Hawk
Like, low body fat guys there. There are some guys like that that are just all muscle, no body fat.
Boston Connor
They.
A.J. Hawk
They tend to cramp sometimes. Yeah. I don't know. You got to try to get ahead, get ahead of it. Pickle juice. Everyone has their own little thing that they think helps them say, I don't.
Pat McAfee
Know, we'll drinking urine, piss. Yeah.
A.J. Hawk
But yeah, I don't think that's part of it.
Ty Schmidt
It is loaded.
Pat McAfee
Did you ever get any cramps?
A.J. Hawk
I was not a cramper.
Pat McAfee
No. There you go.
Cowboys AP Tone
You can't cramp if you don't lose anything.
A.J. Hawk
I cramp after games. I would camp after games. You know, like when you're like sitting down, all of a sudden you catch a hamstring cramp. You jump up and. Yeah, that kind of thing.
Pat McAfee
The night cramps, awesome. The ones that just wake you up in the middle.
A.J. Hawk
That'd be in high school all the time. That used to have me in high school after high school, Friday, playing both ways, when you're just. You can't even move. Yeah, it's. It. If anyone has. I mean, I would assume everyone's cramped up like in their hamstrings or calves or quads. Right. Like, it's a. It's a different kind of situation.
Pat McAfee
Ah, you think it's over. Yeah. You think it's the first time that you. You talk about high school. That was when I used to get a soccer football. You know, you name it. And it's like middle of the night, just every muscle in your leg locks up and you feel like it's never going to end. And it's like, oh, my God, this is terrible. I'm happy. I wasn't. I mean, kicker, punter, you're probably not going to be a cramper. Although I was a heavy sweater. There's some guys who are. Were losing like 13, 14, 15 pounds of sweat during, like, training camp practices. Maybe 20 pounds of sweat. It's like IV Pedialyte. Need to reload in its entirety. But is that even right? Because remember, bananas were supposed to stop cramping back in the day.
Boston Connor
Yeah, but that picture. The picture proved that that was correct. The cramp. The banana cramp video. I don't know if you guys recall. This was last baseball season, I believe. And it's. It was just an. An interview with. Before a game that went viral. Bruce. You could probably find it. And it's this picture talking about. And he can't really speak. It's very broken English.
Ty Schmidt
Oh, you talking about the Japanese guy? Yeah, yeah, for the Blue Jays.
Boston Connor
Yeah. Bingo. Yeah, he talks about how banana stop crap. But it's broken English, so it sounds like crap. And it.
Pat McAfee
It's 11 years old. Bruce says this is quite a deep cut is what Bruce said. But he does have.
Ty Schmidt
It is a bit of a classic on the Internet.
Pat McAfee
We do have the video, though. Here. There's an ad right now. Oh, Jesus. 11 years old.
Cowboys AP Tone
What happened to you?
Pat McAfee
Huh? What happened? Just crap. Just a cramp. Yeah, just crap.
Ty Schmidt
So you told me.
Pat McAfee
What. What can you eat to help you.
Ty Schmidt
Make you feel better?
Pat McAfee
Bananas. That helper brew. Why bananas? Monkeys never crops. You know, monkey never crap.
Ty Schmidt
Because monkey every day.
Pat McAfee
Bananas. Two.
Ty Schmidt
So how many did you have today?
Pat McAfee
Three. How about three? No more. No more cramp for you. I need three banana. Because monkey never claps. Okay, perfect. She didn't ever stretch. You know, Coach prime talks about how he didn't stretch before running. Cheetah never stretches. I. I've never heard the. You ever see a monkey get a cramp? Actually, we don't know. I don't think I've ever seen one in any of the nat. National Geographic things. Potassium was the answer. And then it was obviously salt. I think salt became a part of the entire process. They're always trying to figure that out. Cramps. I'm just happy I'm not a cramper. Throughout my life. Cramping sucks. Like, you know how they say people like, once a fumbler, always a fumbler. I feel like crampers are crampers, aj don't you think that is accurate?
A.J. Hawk
Yeah, you're right. You never really out of the woods even. They can do whatever they can to try to prepare. I don't know what we had guys that would cramp in college, and they're always trying different things, like different pedialytes or different pickle juice before the game to try to figure it out.
Pat McAfee
I agree. I. I'm happy that that is something I don't got to deal with. Sucks that Lamar has to deal with that.
Boston Connor
Yeah, Often kind of a little bit here.
Pat McAfee
Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like one of those. It's like people that get migrant. Like, I think it's like a natural always there. It all goes away.
Cowboys AP Tone
Like once you get in October, November, like, there's not a lot of cramp.
A.J. Hawk
I don't know. You can cramp in the cold. I've seen guys cramping, freezing cold.
Pat McAfee
I think they don't drink any water. I think it's a muscle. I think it's like how they're is.
Ty Schmidt
Like a genetic thing.
Pat McAfee
Almost more likely to cramp. I think there are people that are that way and that sucks. And I'm thankful that I'm not one of those people. Cramps are the worst. I'm getting them now at my age again. Starting to happen where I'm getting in better shape. I'm not eating as much. Nowhere near as hydrated. Start getting the hammy. We'll start pulling a little bit. I'm like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo. You got to beat that. You got to beat that. You got to straighten the leg out there. Can't let that thing, you know, kind of hit in there. Quads starting to tighten up the a little bit. No, no, no, we're not doing that. We're not doing that one in there. Both Cavs would suck for Lamar.
Boston Connor
Nightmare.
Pat McAfee
That would suck.
A.J. Hawk
Can't walk.
Pat McAfee
Why didn't they go for it? Fourth and three. Yeah, he said they're definitely going for it there. If he's in there. He thought so they're in field. Go range on the other side.
Boston Connor
Last time it was the Chiefs Ravens where Harbaugh asked him when he was jogging off the field. He's like, do you want to go for it or not? And he was like, yeah, obviously.
Pat McAfee
Absolutely. And they want. Let's talk about another story. Obviously, Jacksonville coming into Cincinnati. Cincinnati. Zach Taylor would like their fans to be there for the beginning of the game and for Sam Hubbard. Hubbard, who'll be the ruler of the jungle. Sam Hubbard, local legend, Cincinnati legend. Guy who score a 99 yard touchdown in Cincinnati. He went to Ohio State as well.
A.J. Hawk
Yep, yep. Mayor of high school as well.
Pat McAfee
High school in Cincinnati. Guy could be a mayor. He'll be a ruler of the jungle.
Boston Connor
No doubt about it.
Pat McAfee
Okay. And Zach Taylor doesn't want to see anybody on those people escalators. I'm sick of. You're already in there. Sam Hubbard. If not Sam, then who?
Boston Connor
True.
Pat McAfee
Will you. Will you be here for Zach Taylor saying. And on the other side, brand new Jacksonville squad. Hey, this Jacksonville Jaguars team's a little bit different. Their offensive line is getting credit from AQ Shipley. He's talking about the play design being like one of those play callers that goes ahead and sets things up for the offensive line to be successful. Like, hey, do we have the best offensive line? No, but we will set it up with play design and maybe we do have the best offensive line in football because of it. ETN want bananas. They felt so good, they traded away their backup running back. Trevor Lawrence was making some throws and Travis Hunter was a part of the offense this week. He's allegedly going to be a little bit more part of the defense. Now, if you were to listen to Darius J. Butler speak about this, I think this could have been a little bit predictable. Now debutch like two weeks ago started hypothesizing about the plan for Travis Hunter. And if he said, well, if he's going to major in wide receiver and he's going to have a minor in db, it'll probably be when necessity based on the defensive side. So you start looking at who has a plethora of weapons, who has a lot of passing options for their offenses. That's probably when you're going to see Travis Hunter on the defensive side trying to get rid of one of the superstars, Cincinnati Bengals. It's obviously very well talked about. They got a lot of weapons out there, so Travis Hunter probably going to be seen on the defensive side. Aside, do you think this is an accurate hypothesis here from Darius J. Butler? Do you think the more weapons the other team has, obviously, situationally we'll see more of Travis Hunter on the defensive side of the ball?
A.J. Hawk
Yeah, I think debut could be spot on here. I think you probably sit there to the week, you know, six days out from a game and you look at the matchups that you have. You, you know, NFL at all levels of football, it's about matchups. How do we exploit the matchups and get them in our favor? So, yeah, the more weapons another team has. Yeah, maybe the, the more time Travis Hunter gets at corner but is it going to cut into any of his time at receiver, do you think?
Pat McAfee
I think he's going to major in wide receiver. I think he's always going to be a wide receiver. Liam Cohen, HEAD COACH and PLAY CALLER I think that is a real thing. Like, hey, I got a dynamic guy here that we took number two overall, and I have a great offense. That's why I became the head coach. I think he's going to eat on the offensive side. And then I think what D. Bucks was saying is, like, there'll be packages on the defensive side, which might be a lot of the game. Like, if they got a lot of weapons, if they're three, four deep at weapons, like, they're going to need Travis Hunter to play a lot more that particular week. So picking and choosing ultimately is kind of how he thought maybe they would do. He wasn't guaranteeing this. He was like, maybe this is what they're doing. It's holding true seemingly here going into week two.
Boston Connor
Yeah. And, like, this is the perfect world for him where they can pick. But even just the depth of it, you know, we're talking about already with the packers and the commanders guys being out and being hurt, like, if they go down one of their corners or If Brian Thomas Jr. Goes down, like, well, at least you have that in your back pocket. Like, okay, well, instead of having him split time if one of those guys is injured or if, you know, they don't have good depth, it's like, hey, you're not doing anything but be in a corner this weekend. Being, you know, wide receiver this week because we have dudes out. Like, having that in the back pocket, too, is huge.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I. It's gonna work in it.
Boston Connor
Jags are gonna be good.
Pat McAfee
Jacks are gonna be a good football.
Boston Connor
They wouldn't trade Tank Bigsby if they weren't pretty confident who they got right now.
Pat McAfee
Are they. Are they good for right now or.
Ty Schmidt
Well, it looks good right now, but hopefully this lasts forever.
Pat McAfee
What was that?
Ty Schmidt
Well, this is what they envisioned in January. Okay. It's happening in September, and it's going.
Pat McAfee
To go on forever. Sean Khan gave a motivational speech after the Big Time dub in week one. This is what we envisioned in January. Okay? Yes, sir.
Boston Connor
It's happening here in September.
Pat McAfee
Gonna go on forever.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
I love everything about it. I love everything about it. Legit, too. We might run that every day. If an owner is going down there saying, thank God. Yeah. Which is what he is saying. He's been trying to for a long time to get that team to be sustainably good. Long time. What do I got to do? It has to be what he is thinking. And then in that moment, let's bottle this. I can see it. This is it. We need this forever. Young coaches, young gm, young players. Trevor Lawrence still young in his career. It's like, what. I don't love it. Yeah. Because AFC south that need to be this difficult. Sure. But boy, it feels like they really are turning the corner after Week 1.
Cowboys AP Tone
For reference, Week 1, he played 42 snaps on offense and six on defense. But when you like when you're talking about matchups, Bengals a little different than the Panthers. The Panthers probably one of the weaker teams as far as wide receivers are concerned. And the Bengals obviously being the strongest potentially. So, yeah. 42 and 6 in week one will be interesting to see what the actual split is for for week two.
Pat McAfee
Over under 20 on the defensive side this week.
Boston Connor
Week over.
Pat McAfee
I think so, too.
Adam Schefter
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Over under 35 on the offensive side this week.
Boston Connor
Under.
Cowboys AP Tone
I think it stays the same on an offense.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think. I think his offensive.
Cowboys AP Tone
They might run less plays, though.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because Cincinnati might keep the ball for a long time, but on the defensive side, Travis might get a couple turnovers. He's a magnet. That guy's a magnet to the ball.
Boston Connor
Well, and the Bengals, like, they got Trey Hendrickson up front. So if you want to slow him down with ETN, he got what, get like 18 carries. He had 140 yards. He might get 25 carries this time around. Maybe.
Pat McAfee
What if. Are we in a time where the Jags. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it yet.
Ty Schmidt
Still got to see it.
Boston Connor
Date better than the Colts, baby.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Ain't nobody. Okay. Ain't nobody. How many points did a Dolphin score, Gumpy? Nice. Eight right at the very end. HN fought to get over the line.
Ty Schmidt
On a fourth and goal from the 15 screen. It was a great call.
Boston Connor
That is. That is it scored.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it's kind of sounds like it worked.
Pat McAfee
I don't know if you know this, But Danny Dimes, Mr. Indiana Jones. Daniel Jones, captain. Yeah. The Indianapolis Colts, hottest quarterback in the NFL. Yeah. Danny Dimes won the Nickelodeon Super Duper thing.
Ty Schmidt
He got the mvp.
Boston Connor
Oh, and Jonathan Taylor gave us to him. That makes sense. He's a nickelodeon guy, right?
Pat McAfee
Well, he won this multiple times. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did. Oh, Blue got it instead. Blue Goo. Jonathan Taylor told Danny Dimes, he said, listen, getting actually slimed sucks. Okay? So we need to turn this into something. And they're like, you know who will take it? Blue, number one mascot of the 2025 NFL season, got an award opening day before the game started.
Boston Connor
You were there 20 total.
A.J. Hawk
The Colts voted on that. That's cool.
Pat McAfee
No, it was the International Super Duper Mascot Federation. Oh, okay. Well, yeah. And he won the award. It was before the game started. They made an announcement. Ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to congratulate the number one mascot of the 2025 NFL season. It's. The season just started. We were just kicking it off. Blue. Blue came out.
Cowboys AP Tone
He's not even top five.
Pat McAfee
Yes, he is.
Boston Connor
You're talking about a salute to service award. No, Blue did. Because he's such a dog. Way better than that Braves mascot.
Pat McAfee
I know.
Boston Connor
That Braves mascot's not getting any awards.
Pat McAfee
No, he. Blooper. Yeah.
Boston Connor
He is a fucking blooper. They need to get a new one in there now.
Pat McAfee
A lot of headlines out of blooper. I think he's doing just fine. Blue hit his throw. Yeah, Blue hit his throw. It got close, though. Oh, yeah.
Boston Connor
Down to the wire. They were on, like, five seconds. I think when he made it.
Pat McAfee
He gets 30 seconds to hit this throw. It's an absurd throw. It's from the upper deck down to a barrel down on the field. We're dude perfecting. Okay. We're doing this entire thing. Couple games last. Last year, he hit it, like, too quick.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Right away, people forgot that. Didn't even know the thing was happening. All right, all eyes towards the window as Blue attempts the long range shot for charity. All right, Blue, go. And then he's first throw, hits it. He did it. Nobody even has a chance to look over there. So if I was him, I would say, hey, you need to start lethal shootering this. You need to start missing a few so people understand it's missable. And maybe that's what he did the first week. But it got real close. It got real close. This one got. Yeah. It came down to the final, like, 2 seconds or 30 seconds. And then he thought he might have jinxed himself. Putting shirt on underneath.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, sure.
Pat McAfee
And putting a snap off on. We. We got a chance to see that possible.
Boston Connor
Pat, I was just gonna say, is he naked? Is that a tattoo or is that the shirt?
Pat McAfee
That's a T shirt. Put T shirt on shirt. It. Yeah, he is. He is Shirt. Always blue. He very rarely even puts pants on.
A.J. Hawk
That might be. That might be Tyler. Tyler might jump into Blue's costume for this event, I would imagine.
Pat McAfee
It does look like it could Be Tyler. How often he hits. And he'll roll around on a little standing scooter thing. He'll do all this stuff. Blue does all this stuff.
Cowboys AP Tone
You know what's better than a fake horse? Real horses.
Pat McAfee
Okay.
Cowboys AP Tone
Thunder, Kansas City Chief's horse. Or War Paint. The Denver Broncos horse. Okay, Those are just two much better live horses, not fake horses.
Pat McAfee
So much more moxy than both those.
Cowboys AP Tone
The Thunder and War Paint.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, both of them combined. You can even add that Colorado Bison into this thing, Hedrick.
Cowboys AP Tone
Oh, yeah, that's a. That's a tough story.
Boston Connor
What happened?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, the old.
Pat McAfee
Look at him. Look at Blue. He's an asshole.
A.J. Hawk
Doesn't anyone punch Blue after this, like I should?
Boston Connor
These people.
Pat McAfee
These people don't. Yeah, you're right. What am I doing?
A.J. Hawk
Either way, Even if I knew. Even if I knew it was coming, like, hey, man, you have to blast me that hard.
Pat McAfee
Well, he's a cream pie. He's the best cream pie in town. Anytime that he's in.
Boston Connor
You got to run into Blue in Atlanta.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he'll cream pie you pretty good, Donner. He will. Certainly this weekend. Denver Broncos cream pies all around town. True. Everywhere, Blue, just cream pie. Cream pie, cream pie.
Boston Connor
Sean Payton's gonna lose his mind, and.
Pat McAfee
He'S gonna get cream pied right in the face.
Boston Connor
Exactly.
Cowboys AP Tone
But anyways, the.
Pat McAfee
That's the number one mascot is Super Duper Federation.
Cowboys AP Tone
The Colorado Buffalo. The old one, Ralphie. Ralphie, Whatever it is, eight or nine, refused to run anymore.
Pat McAfee
Just said, nah. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
So now they're disinterested. So they said, all right.
Cowboys AP Tone
So now they're training a new one. It's not ready for live game X.
Pat McAfee
Oh, they weren't ready for the passing of the torch. No. And the baton was not yet to be passed. Maybe another year or so. And instead, Ralphie said, actually, I'm calling shots. Adam Rittenberg, espn. Rittenberg. This guy's always on it. Colorado announces Ralphie six. Its live Buffalo mascot named Ember is retiring. An indifference to running contributed to the decision. The school is training Ralphie seven for her debut, but the team will take the field without its live mascot in the interim. I'll tell you what. They always said that about Ralphie six. This motherfucker operates on its own time. Yeah. Bold move. Just indifference to running. Love it. I've decided they do a little preseason run with Ralphie. All right? We're going to go through this, all right? Ralphie takes four. Four steps with each hoof. So 16 total steps. Boom. I don't like this anymore. I've decided. And they go, oh, we got to go around the field. You do. I don't. And then just walked it off. Walked up the tunnel. Retirement took. Shrugged the thing off. Shrugged the thing off. See it?
A.J. Hawk
I love to see when they finally had to make that decision. All right, we're going to put this one out the pasture. You don't want to run.
Ty Schmidt
Oh.
Pat McAfee
Oh. They're not killing Ralphie Six. They're not killing Ember. Oh, yeah.
Boston Connor
What? You kidding me? We know they definitely want to pay.
A.J. Hawk
To take care of them in America.
Cowboys AP Tone
You just can't kill buffalo.
Pat McAfee
Buffalo. Okay. You can't just snipe Ember. Yeah, okay. That's not how this is gonna go.
Boston Connor
They're not gonna snipe Ember. I think we can all picture what the hell is gonna happen to Ember. Okay? I mean, there's a spot in our own damn building for Ember's head. And unfortunately, the pasta jerseys.
Pat McAfee
That was a gift.
Boston Connor
Hey, hey, Ralphie Six. Take a long look, brother, because that's what you're gonna look like for the next hundred years. Your sister, whatever.
Pat McAfee
Ember's going to be running wild out there in Colorado. Motivating the. Sorry. Not running. Ember is going to be standing out there in a while, Motivating. Maybe a jaunt.
Cowboys AP Tone
Yeah.
Boston Connor
Most animals once they don't walk or run anymore. They stay alive for. For a long, long time. Ralphie's dead.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, they're.
Boston Connor
They're taking peace, Ralphie Six.
Ty Schmidt
They're taking. They're taking the cattle prodder. They are shooting the. Ralphie Six right in the.
Pat McAfee
No, they're not taking.
Ty Schmidt
Taking her to the butcher. And guess what? You can get a bison burger at, you know, Buffalo Stadium for 650 on Saturday.
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you what's not a good time to be a bison. Feel like people are really getting after the bison burgers.
Ty Schmidt
They are.
Pat McAfee
Those things kind of came in the real stuff. They had to have had a meeting out there amongst themselves. Hey. Feels like they're killing us at a much more rapid rate.
Boston Connor
They found out we taste good and.
Pat McAfee
We'Re healthy, as they found out. That's because they run a lot. You know, their muscles. Because they run so much. That's why it's such good meat. Healthy meat. And then Ember's just not even good to eat. Got a lazy bison.
Ty Schmidt
I guess they need to do a.
Pat McAfee
Better job scouting these fucking things. Don't. Don't you think? Yeah, this was definitely the scouting Report. Ember will give you 12 good years. Okay. But inevitably, Ember's gonna want to get back out in the field. Gonna be out there doing it.
Boston Connor
Lazy, arrogant, terror, bad work ethic.
Pat McAfee
Entitled is a little entitled.
Boston Connor
Not a lunch pail guy.
Pat McAfee
Name image like this. Maybe getting m. Ember a little bit on a couple schedules. A lot of people showing up in the crowd. What if Ember wanted a renegotiation? What if she didn't fully comprehend that Coach prime may be the reason why this is all happening here? And Ember says that's weird. Last time I ran out here a little smaller. We start winning games, I start running out here, everything's bigger. What the will I get?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I just looked it up.
Cowboys AP Tone
They did. They just retired to her.
Pat McAfee
To her.
Cowboys AP Tone
To her sanctuary, which can be not disclosed because they want her to be living.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Oh, mom and dad. The dog went to the.
Kirk Herbstreit
For.
Pat McAfee
Okay. It's not.
Ty Schmidt
Don't go looking for her. We obviously can't tell you where she's at because we don't want her.
Pat McAfee
You know, I'm gonna go see. I'm gonna take a selfie with Ember. I. I would like Ember to know.
Boston Connor
Go on.
Pat McAfee
Go on.
Boston Connor
Get one right now. It's right there.
Pat McAfee
That's not him.
Cowboys AP Tone
It could be Ralphie 5. They had to retire because it got too big and too fast that the. The run couldn't see.
Pat McAfee
Now that's. Now that's a buffalo.
Boston Connor
That's still alive. Bison that's still alive. The bison. That.
Pat McAfee
That.
Boston Connor
Hey, I'm too tired. Guess what happens to those bites and guillotine, brother. They cut those. Yes, they do.
Pat McAfee
I do believe, though, that because of Ralphie5's tenacity and want to get better and faster and stronger. Too fast for the humans that are trying to control Ralphie 5. They got blinded by the fact that they could find a lazy bison and they got one of them. They didn't even think that was possible because how much Ralphie five had him distracted.
Boston Connor
So they need those. Those two bison to. To bison each other. And then maybe the offspring is the perfect one.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but that's a long time from now. How long are these things not going to be running on the thing?
Ty Schmidt
I mean, I'm not condoning it, you know, but if you got a lazy bison, you know, you ever seen old school what Sean William Scott does to the. You know, the pony at the petting zoo? You want to get that thing going a little bit.
Pat McAfee
Dart in the neck. Or you want to Come here.
Ty Schmidt
You know, you take that thing and you know, you Yankees.
Pat McAfee
We're not doing that. That's what I'm saying.
Ty Schmidt
I don't condone it. But if.
Pat McAfee
If. If we're not doing.
Ty Schmidt
If you got a bison that's not running.
Pat McAfee
Hey, you get.
Ty Schmidt
Before you get out there, you maybe take his leash and jerk that thing all around and get them all riled up before.
A.J. Hawk
Give him some meth. Give him meth would help.
Cowboys AP Tone
Shot of adrenaline.
Pat McAfee
We're not doing that. Okay. Amber's gonna live a good life.
Cowboys AP Tone
Shot of adrenaline straight to the heart and then see.
Ty Schmidt
Watch that thing run out.
Pat McAfee
Let's move along. Let's make a picture.
Boston Connor
We could wait, actually, what we could do is have those two bison, and we can have them wait while the baby's getting ready.
Pat McAfee
Be perfect.
Boston Connor
And we have the other guy serve as the bison spurting out onto the field, leading the Colorado Buffaloes every single week.
Pat McAfee
The Face had, like, a good idea. I did not.
A.J. Hawk
It's a good idea.
Pat McAfee
And what we hope is Ember lives a full life post running on the. Anywhere. I guess. Post running. I hope post running life is good. And I don't know if Stanford Steve's going to be running them on the field every single week, but we do hope that whatever bison's next is one that showcases a good passion for what they're doing. Yeah. You know, it felt like Ember was just showing up for the paycheck. Yeah. Just showing up for the claps wasn't showing up for the. She's not. She's in a sanctuary.
Ty Schmidt
Beautiful. Undisclosed sanctuary.
Boston Connor
Okay.
Pat McAfee
Yep.
A.J. Hawk
Can't just put her in the zoo.
Boston Connor
Does the tooth fairy visit there?
Cowboys AP Tone
She's a sanctuary.
A.J. Hawk
Maybe she's buried under the sanctuary.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Boston Connor
There you go. She's actually the first speed bump at the sanctuary when you get there.
Pat McAfee
Amber. They wouldn't do that to Amber. Amber won a lot of games out there.
Boston Connor
They would do that to Ember because she's a quitter and she's lazy.
Pat McAfee
Let's go to tonight. They might respect that, to be honest. I mean, have you ever met a wild animal that just says, nope, not doing it? I guess there's been a couple throughout.
Boston Connor
Koalas, bulls.
Pat McAfee
I think in bull riding, there's probably been a couple that said, I'm not playing the games. I'm not with the. Over there in Spain with the running of the bulls. I think there's been a couple bulls that said, we're not with it. Everyone. We'll see something like that. But A bison just known to be pretty happy. Go lucky, I think. Right, the bison, yeah.
Boston Connor
In the plains. Well, no, they're bison or dogs. I mean, they run towards storms.
Cowboys AP Tone
I've dug in a little more. Ember is now living with Ralphie 5 in a companion buffalo role.
Boston Connor
So.
Pat McAfee
So they are. That's. But I think they're both women, right? I think they're both females.
Cowboys AP Tone
I don't know if Ralphie5 was.
Boston Connor
Ralphie5 sounds like an ox.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, might have been. Might have snuck in a little ox in that thing. All right, tonight, packers commanders three and a half point spread could get it at three. We got an update on the bison.
Cowboys AP Tone
Ralphie Five's name was Blackout.
Boston Connor
That was actually Tuck's nickname in college. I am dead serious.
Pat McAfee
Okay, that makes sense. That makes sense. I assume for similar reasons there. Ralphie5 just had no brain out there. Yeah. Just get out there and just, you know, we don't really know what's going to happen, but if we can steer it, we know it's going to be electrifying. I'm done doing research. Hey, I like that. I like you doing that. Tonight, commanders packers in Green Bay. Packers could get three at a sportsbook somewhere. Or you could get the Commanders plus three and a half at espn. Bet. Jaden Dano's Jordan Love, Ty Schmidt. How's this game go?
Ty Schmidt
This morning I, you know, I woke up and I was thinking, you know what? This has got 27, 24 packers written all over it. But the more we've talked today, I mean, coach Mike McCarthy said it's going to be a good night for a green goal. So I'm going to take the. I'm going to take the packers. And I think we're winning by at least a touchdown tonight.
Pat McAfee
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Boston Connor
Touching all the base.
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Ty Schmidt
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Boston Connor
It's just nice. They change it every week.
Cowboys AP Tone
The people that use it should Know how to spell?
Pat McAfee
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Boston Connor
So no spaces.
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A.J. Hawk
Man, I think, you know, Michael Parsons gets more time out there. He just absolutely wreaks havoc. The rest of that defense has been flying around. Give me the packers at minus three. Give me the packers and the over as well. I think they win 30 to 21.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so I'd be very close with the over 51 points. That'd be very close. And with 30, 21 is a high scoring affair.
A.J. Hawk
Oh yeah, it is very.
Pat McAfee
That's a lot of points. 25, 24 is an over there. That's a lot of points. That's a lot of success. Will the Green Bay packers be able to be successful with two brand new guys on the offensive line like Shefford was alluding to? Is Jordan Love going to be running for his life? Is Josh Jacobs going to get stunted before he even gets going? Is there going to be a little bit of. Oh, no. All of a sudden I see a little disagreement happening right, with Micah and the rest of the.
Ty Schmidt
Oh no, we're way too early for that.
Boston Connor
Lucas Van Ness and Micah.
Pat McAfee
Wait a minute, is that What I'm saying right there, the offense fails. If the offense is not good for whatever reason, maybe because there's two offensive linemen that we don't know.
Boston Connor
Terry McLaren's back.
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. Diva Samuel last week was his priest. He can run the ball and go all over the place. Bill.
Boston Connor
I'm just a.
Pat McAfee
Bill. Is that what's happening tonight? I. What? It's. It. Nah, I think packers do it minus three.
Boston Connor
Yeah.
A.J. Hawk
Okay.
Pat McAfee
Really? Oh, Hunter doesn't like it.
Boston Connor
I'm just sitting numbers.
Pat McAfee
Game wise.
Boston Connor
If you like the packers minus three and they win by three, it's a push. But if you take the three and a half, it's a win.
Ty Schmidt
Do you think it's going to be a big night for a green goal? That's what it comes down to.
Boston Connor
Good question.
A.J. Hawk
I do.
Pat McAfee
Or is it the Maroon?
Boston Connor
Sing that song again, A.J.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we play that from Frank Yankovic in the Yanks. Frankie, why? Rolled the barrel Roll out the barrel we'll have a barrel of fun Roll out the barrel We've got the blues on the run yes, we do Sing, Bo.
Kirk Herbstreit
Ring out a song of cheer.
Pat McAfee
Now it's time to roll the barrel for the gang's all here I'll take the Commander's plus three and a half. Oh, yeah. I just listened to that too many times and I didn't think it had the juice. I think Commander's plus three and a half. I think packers win. How about that? Another one. It's close one. Another one of those. That's a. I think the NFL continues its prime time spectacular.
Cowboys AP Tone
That's a mean parlay.
Pat McAfee
I hit it last week. I'm not promoting it. I'm not promoting it. Okay, but I think it.
Cowboys AP Tone
But I think if you think the Packer win. The commander's cover, it's + 515.
Boston Connor
And if you think that, too, you might as well throw Joshy Jacobs in there for a touchdown.
Pat McAfee
Really? 10 straight games with a T. Josh.
Boston Connor
Jacob. He's on. Yeah, he's on.
Pat McAfee
Oh, hold on. Now. The boys here. The boys here are pretty hot with their parlays. And now you haven't been giving them out publicly, which has certainly been a topic of conversation with you guys over other members of the office without. Yeah. Whoa, whoa. We gave it out on Monday. We gave them all out on Monday. Nobody took it. Yeah, Nobody listened.
Boston Connor
Slander Sunday, fine. But Monday, we. We told everybody and they wouldn't listen. And now they're coming crawling back asking for who's gonna score.
Pat McAfee
Who do you Guys got. Who's gonna score?
Boston Connor
I don't know yet.
Pat McAfee
Josh Jacobs 10 straight. Sounds like you like him.
Boston Connor
I mean definitely, definitely. If you're do. If you want to put like a touchdown with from like the winning team. If you want to do.
Pat McAfee
No, no, let's do a touchdown parlay like you guys. 215. So.
Cowboys AP Tone
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Tone said what a super genius you are, Josh Jacobs.
Boston Connor
Well, I mean that I was getting. That's what I was saying. Like if you're gonna do it with a spread just to make it a little better, you just throw in the favorite of the touchdown.
Pat McAfee
But I. I mean what you guys said. You guys hit a plus 800 or. Plus a couple big ones. Yeah. I'm running it backwards with the quarterback. Touchdown parlay. It was Monday.
Ty Schmidt
It was Caleb and jj.
Pat McAfee
I'm running it back.
Ty Schmidt
Jordan Love and Jaden Daniels.
Pat McAfee
Okay. What's that?
Cowboys AP Tone
I think that's 50 for a TH000, I believe.
Boston Connor
Plus 2000 plus. Yeah. 2200.
Pat McAfee
That feels like good. Are they letting Jordan Love run? I didn't see week one.
Ty Schmidt
Not much.
Pat McAfee
They got to unlock that. Let that thing. It's over.
Cowboys AP Tone
Under is like six yards or something.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. All right, so I'm on the commanders plus three and a half. You're on the packers minus three. I don't know. I think we got a great game. Yeah. Just no shit. Which is exactly where we want to be on this glorious day. Let's remember to be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change our life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. We'll see you tomorrow. Overreacting all over the place. Hell yeah. Kicking off the greatest weekend of all time. Why? Because it's the next one. Mitt loves the over. Just a reminder. He does. I used to. Because of Mitt? Yep. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. Jesus Christ. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team, goodbye. Talk about stepping up. It's time to level up your game. Introducing the all new ESPN app. All of ESPN all in one place. Your home for the most live sports and the best championship moments.
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Airs: September 11, 2025
Main Guests: Adam Schefter, Matt Rhule, Mike McCarthy, Kirk Herbstreit, AJ Hawk
Topic: Thursday Night Football Preview: Packers vs Commanders, NFL & College Football Stories, and Remembering 9/11/2001
This episode kicks off with heartfelt reflections on September 11, 2001, then quickly pivots to an action-packed preview of NFL Week 2's Thursday Night Football: Green Bay Packers vs Washington Commanders. The show features a dynamic roundtable of former NFL pros and major sporting personalities providing insider analysis, sharp betting talk, and lively banter. Regular updates come from Adam Schefter, live check-ins from Kirk Herbstreit, interviews with Nebraska coach Matt Rhule, and Super Bowl–winning coach Mike McCarthy.
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A mix of heartfelt reflection, enthusiastic football fandom, witty snark, and camaraderie—a unique blend of honest takes, locker room humor, and genuine sports insight.
This episode encapsulates The Pat McAfee Show’s signature blend: revered sports guests, fast-paced analysis, betting savvy, and comedic riffs, all filtered through the lens of real-world perspective and a call for empathy and togetherness.