PMS 2.0 1410 - Watt Wednesday, In The Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Dan Orlovsky, & AJ Hawk

Summary

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 #1410 (9/17/2025) – Detailed Episode Summary

Main Theme & Purpose

This Wednesday’s episode dives into the major storylines after the NFL’s Week 2, including emerging quarterback injuries, evolving offensive/defensive trends, deep-dive film breakdowns, and a panoramic view of the league. Usual cohosts (AJ Hawk, the Toxic Table, Tone Diggs), regular Wednesday mainstays (J.J. Watt, AQ Shipley, Darius Butler), and guest NFL analyst Dan Orlovsky all bring their unique energy—alternately insider, analytical, and wildly irreverent—to unspool the latest in pro football. Segments also touch on college football, soccer, and the quirks of new stadium designs before wrapping with their signature “everything DB” and “in the trenches” features.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Quarterback Injury Plague and Backup Mania

• Topic: Early in the show, it’s highlighted that 5 starting QBs are out or expected to miss time (Justin Fields, Tyrod Taylor starting, Mariota possibly in for Jaden Daniels, J.J. McCarthy out, Purdy and Mac Jones mentioned, Joey Burrow out for 12 weeks).

  • “Two years ago, the NFL season was all the quarterbacks got hurt. We had like 90 some quarterbacks play or something like that. Is that going to be the story this year? Early trends say yes.” (Pat, [02:05])

• Backup Quarterback Market:

  • AJ Hawk and crew stress the importance of having a solid veteran backup in today’s NFL, referencing Jake Browning and Carson Wentz in Minnesota as potential stabilizers.
  • Tone Diggs: "You gotta kind of look at those backup QBs, see which ones you trust going into the week—might be your gambling edge." [64:00]

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2. Offensive Trend Watch: Running Game Down, QB Ascendancy

• AQ Shipley’s Takeaways:
  • Rushing Offenses Down:
    • “Running game is down. It is hard right now to find offensive lines playing really well across the league.” (AQ Shipley, [09:04])
    • NFL rushing output is down by ~30 yards/game compared to last year.
  • Why?
    • Less preseason play leads to defenses starting faster.
    • The boom in Cover-2/bend-don’t-break has shifted toward more aggressive first-down defense.
    • More teams adopting Philly’s former “ground and pound” model, but results not materializing league-wide.
    • Dan Orlovsky adds: “I don’t think we have a ton of backs right now with great vision. Gun run track is different than under center run track.” ([54:44])
  • Passing Is Up:
    • More passing yards, frequent 300+ and 400+ yard games.
    • "Rebirth of the quarterback, being able to be the option for an offense." (Pat, [11:59])

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3. Daniel Jones' Emergence as ‘Blitz Conqueror’

• Deep Breakdown:
  • Danny Dimes had monster numbers against the Broncos, with 268 yards and a 117 passer rating against a Vance Joseph blitz-happy D.
    • “What Danny Dimes did is he understood what was coming. Send the line one way, send Jonathan Taylor the other way...All that's happening in processing while Danny Dimes looking at the defense, it's all happening in a blink of an eye.” (Pat & AQ, [13:27])
  • Pat and Shipley detail how this “post-Giants” Danny might’ve always existed, but was hindered by New York’s O-line/offense.
  • Dan Orlovsky: “Daniel Jones is playing in a way we’ve never seen. He’s dealing with chaos and he’s been flawless in it...That shows mental callousness.” ([26:41-29:54])
  • Big point: QBs who survive failures (see: Mayfield, Darnold, Geno, now Danny) tend to develop teflon confidence.

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4. Innovation and Scheming: Offensive Playcalling Evolves

• Lions & 49ers Get Their Mojo Back:
  • Detroit Lions: Week 2, back to heavy motion, deception, and creative run-game wrinkles. “All the eye candy, the shifts, the motions, and running the football...That’s why they had so much success last year.” (AQ, [32:03])
  • 49ers: With Kittle/Usecheck out, still able to run at will thanks to Shanahan’s schemes—a true system fit.
  • Both show how offensive coordinators can support less dynamic positions (tight end, line) with next-level play design.
• Details from Dan Orlovsky:
  • QB details—like hand-faking in outside/inside zone—still matter for hunting big runs and masking play action ([34:56]).

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5. Defensive Characteristics and "Everything DB"

• Chargers ("as complete as anybody") and Falcons on defense:
  • Darius Butler highlights the Chargers’ “zone/man-match” system that forces offensive patience, and how Derwin James’ flexibility disrupts opponent plans ([41:09, 155:30]).
  • The Falcons’ four rookies on defense getting major props as impact players.
• Steelers Issues:
  • Problem: Teams running away from T.J. Watt with massive success (“six legitimate one-on-one pass rushes this year...that’s it,” says J.J. Watt, [95:59]).
  • Solution: Must adjust with stunting, shifting. AQ says he “likes running at the player” with a double team [97:33].
• Philly’s Predictability:
  • Orlovsky points out Philly’s offense lining up and calling the same A.J. Brown route 10 times in the same spot—defenses are adapting, despite the team winning.

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6. The Mac Jones/Brock Purdy/49ers QB Intrigue

• 49ers QB Situation:
  • Mac Jones steps in for Brock Purdy, plays extremely well.
  • Pat and crew debate possible outcomes: “If Mac plays well...what does Shanahan do when Brock’s healthy?” ([140:11])
  • They joke about Kyle Shanahan’s original man-crush on Mac and his willingness to make a ruthless switch if it helps the offense—a “personality profile” of adventurous coaches.

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7. Soccer Silliness and J.J. Watt’s Co-Owner Life

• J.J. Watt checks in (73:15):
  • His team Espanyol is 3rd in La Liga (“drinking coffee in the morning, rum in the afternoon, then we play soccer and win, everyone!” [73:56])
  • Banter over red cards and referee calls; JJ feigns ignorance over which Spanish insult drew a red.
  • Also, brief Burnley mention (“not getting relegated after this season”) and light hammering of La Liga refs.
  • J.J. and Pat joke about sideline height jokes during his TV booth appearances.

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8. AFC Playoff Race Parity

• The Table Is Wide-Open:
  • Multiple “projected contenders” (Bengals, Texans, Chiefs, Broncos) all at risk of sliding to 0-3 or 1-2, opening doors for surprise teams.
  • J.J. Watt on why 0-3 is so hard to overcome: “That's what sucks about this league, it’s so hard. Now they’re sitting in the locker room trying to figure out, talking to each other, what do we gotta change?” ([108:52])

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9. Lighthearted/Epic Segments & Notable Quotes

• On Vanity & Fitness:
  • Dan Orlovsky: “I gotta kinda get to a point of physical pain almost on a daily basis...for my brain. If I don’t, I just become crazy edgy.” ([22:28])
  • Pat, on Dan’s fashion: “Your suits look extra snug, brother!” ([23:17])
• Podcast-inside-the-podcast Meta Moments:
  • Extended, hilarious back-and-forths between Orlovsky and J.J. Watt on who ‘invented’ the under-center, two-tight end resurgence narrative ([173:31]–[177:38]).
  • Playful sniping about Twitter film breakdowns, who is ‘first to coin’ trends, and poking fun at their own analyst “ego economy.”
• Stadium Design Tangent:
  • “AI football stadiums are the future, not beholden to budget or zoning boards. Why not a moat?” (Pat, [116:10]–[119:05])
• Pat’s Missed Shot Gags:
  • Ending with basketball shots predicting Dolphins-Bills, Colts/Steelers fortunes, Steelers run D fix, etc. (e.g. “If I make this, the Dolphins beat the Bills. If I miss, the universe wants Buffalo!”) ([183:54]–[186:25])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:00] — Discussion of QB injuries and backups
• [09:00] — AQ Shipley: Run game is down, why?
• [12:34, 13:27] — Daniel Jones “blitz conqueror” breakdown
• [22:28] — Dan Orlovsky joins (“Working out for mental health and vanity”)
• [25:00] — Dan on Daniel Jones: trust, scheme, transformation
• [32:03, 32:52] — Lions shift back to motion and deception; 49ers scheming without full starters
• [54:44] — Dan O: “Under center, first down play-action, and two TE sets are dominating early”
• [64:49] — AJ Hawk on backup QBs, importance; Ty and AJ on Carson Wentz “experience”
• [73:15] — J.J. Watt soccer banter, Espanyol 3rd in La Liga
• [106:42] — Pat: “Danny Dimes is perfect for Indy—a fit!”; J.J. reacts to Colts' offense
• [155:30] — Everything DB: Chargers D principles, Atlanta rookie defenders; Good D/Bad D
• [134:52] — In the Trenches: AQ Shipley’s Top 5 O-Lines (ATL, SF, SEA, DET, BUF)
• [183:54+] — Show wrap, bizarre predictions with basketball throws

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Notable Quotes & Moments (w/ Timestamps)

• On adversity making QBs:

  • Dan Orlovsky [28:49]: "There's something to be said for these younger quarterbacks just getting absolutely embarrassed publicly...and not breaking, then using it as a positive."

• On the NFL’s copycat league:

  • Pat [10:00]: "If somebody sees success, they go, oh, that is what we're supposed to do. That is what wins. Let's do that...But seems like that's not the case. Rushing might not be as good as we thought."

• On Mac Jones in SF:

  • Pat [140:11]: “If Mac Jones plays really well here and then Brock comes back—first drive a three and out, second drive a fumble, third drive an interception... Maybe Kyle looks over at Mac, and there’s hearts popping up. ‘I gotta go with my heart, damn it.’”

• On Chargers D:

  • Darius Butler [41:09]: “You can’t dink and dunk your way down the field against this defense...and you’re not going to hit big explosive plays that often. You’ve got to be able to control the line of scrimmage and hit your shots.”

• About the Steelers D run-stopping woes:

  • J.J. Watt [94:55]: “Run defense in general needs to improve, whether it's left or right. And it doesn't help when you have so many guys out. But yeah, teams are running away from T.J., and they're having success.”

• On “Inventing” Trends:

  • J.J. Watt to Dan Orlovsky [176:37]: "You have to have the multiplicity now...to do whatever you want. That was what was interesting talking to McVay—last piece was under-center drop back. Now they have it."
  • Pat [177:49]: “Snooze, you lose, Dan.”

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Episode Structure

1. Opening Monologue & Immediate News — [00:00–04:00]
2. Quarterback Injury/Backup QB State — [04:00–15:00]
3. Trends: Running Game, Passing, O-Lines — [09:00–32:00]
4. In the Trenches/AQ Shipley’s Takeaways — sprinkled throughout, main segment [134:52]
5. Film Deep-Dives (Daniel Jones, Lions, 49ers) — [13:00–35:00]
6. Dan Orlovsky Segment (QB progression, Rushing, Play-Action, Scheme) — [22:28–55:54]
7. Soccer/Espanyol/Burnley w/ J.J. Watt — [73:15–78:36]
8. AFC Power Structure, Team Parity — [106:42–107:45]
9. Everything DB (Chargers, Falcons, Eagles, Bears, etc.) — [155:30–168:17]
10. Meta-Media Banter (J.J./Dan O. on ideas, trend ‘theft’) — [173:29–177:38]
11. Bonus: Stadium/A.I. Futurism, Pat’s basketball “prophecy” throws — [116:10–186:25]
12. Closing Table/Teasers/Sign-Off — [186:27–end]

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Original Language & Tone

• The entire show is a mix of earnest football analysis, locker-room storytelling, and off-the-wall banter. Pat’s high-energy hosting, the panel’s inside jokes and ribbing, and open irreverence are central to what makes the show distinctive.
  • Examples: “Snooze, you lose, Dan.” “Wet wipes Warren.” “I don’t know if this is reality—Shefter told us it’s not. But we like the conversation!”
  • Robust meme-ing and self-parody: “Playcalling meta takes,” basketball shot predictions, the “fight” over who invented the two-TE/under-center trend.

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Summary Takeaways

• The NFL is in flux early—lots of key QB injuries, offensive/defensive performance volatility, and perennial questions about who’s next.
• Veterans and previously maligned QBs (Daniel Jones, Mac Jones, Carson Wentz, Baker) are proving valuable.
• The best teams and throwers are those who can “take a punch” and respond—mentally calloused, not broken.
• High-level scheme and offensive/defensive innovation, not just raw talent, are separating teams.
• The “in the trenches” and “everything DB” deep-dives remain essential listening for those wanting to understand what really impacts wins and losses.
• The show itself is as much about big NFL themes as it is about celebrating (and lampooning) the personalities covering the game—blurring the line between broadcast, barstool, and football meeting room.

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For a listener who missed the show, this summary gives the flow of topics, the unique humor, and exactly what’s being said in the NFL right now, with key moments, time-stamped.

Transcript

[A]

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this white Wednesday, September 17, 2025. This program begins right now. Football is magical and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. Today is going to be a special one because not only are we going to look back on the weekend that was in ball, but also the weekend that is right around the corner. Got a lot of big storylines developing. We've got a lot of big conversations today. Dan Orlovsky will join us in about 20 minutes or so. I called him this morning. He was doing a bodyweight workout and then he had kettlebells. He was doing hang clean's work and he dropped down to a couple burpees. And I had wildly short shorts on. Had my FaceTime phone on the ground.

[B]

Oh, back grip.

[A]

Thought I was gonna see Dan O's. Dan O. And it was kind of distracted, sure. But I didn't. Just so we all understand his quad, the bones attached to his hips.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Okay. He's got these tiny little legs. They were kind of blocking the entire. But he was doing. He was getting half. We're talking hoodie up. Sweat, full sweat. The burpees were very intense. I mean, he hit the. He was hitting the ground.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Hitting the ground, going up. And then he grabbed his kettlebell, did a clean. And I was like, what is this? Every day? You know? And then. Yes. And I'm obviously interrupting. He's breathing and I'm like, 12, 20. And he has. Can't even say. And I'm like. I just hang up and I'm like, what song was playing there? You think that I interrupted? Was that a song? Was it somebody, a life coach maybe talking him through that?

[B]

Yeah, the Wiggles.

[A]

Was it like Jocko yelling at him right there? Because he was getting after it. It was still dark outside. I mean, you're talking about like. I didn't know Dano had it like that.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

He's got three kids, though. I guess he's going to have to get after it in the morning. And he also has his. He's a model, remember?

[C]

He is a model.

[A]

He's a model now, so he's got to get after it. We appreciate that, but Dano will join us in about 18 minutes or so. He called a game on Monday night, excited to see how that all went. And also his thoughts on some of these quarterbacks. And also a lot of quarterback injur. Yes, it has been official. Let's go to talks to the table at Boss Connor and at Ty Schmidt who just got Rudo fifth quarterback, fifth starting quarterback, already out for at least a game it seems like.

[B]

Yeah. Justin Fields officially out. Concussion Tyrod Taylor starting. And there were reports this morning about Mariota possibly being go on Sunday instead of Jaden Daniels.

[A]

And that adds to J.J. mcCarthy, obviously we've learned about that. Also goes to Purdy. Okay, so we, we've already had that situation with Mac Jones and then Joey burrow out for 12 weeks or whatever. It's going to be with the broken toes. So 32 teams, five starting quarterbacks already about to miss games or have already missed games. So that's kind of been a story of like two years ago the NFL season was all the quarterbacks got hurt. We had like 90 some quarterbacks play or something like that. Is that going to be the story of this year? Early trends say yes. But also we got more points. We got a lot of magic happening here early in the NFL season. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. We got everything. Db, good D, bad D coming today. How were the defenses around the NFL? Was it easier or harder to find good D? Or was it easier or harder to find that? That.

[D]

I mean it's over that quick D.

[A]

That give up quick D. We'll pause.

[D]

We'll pause first.

[B]

It's all a D. But looking for.

[D]

Defense, it's always good to find it, but sometimes you just kind of stumble upon a theme for the week. So we got a little theme for this week.

[A]

Oh, I can't wait. We also have a theme in another segment that we absolutely love, and that's every Wednesday we get an opportunity to not only catch up with J.J. watt, who'll be in the second half. Sure, his espanol team. In the morning they drink coffee. In the afternoons it's rum.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

And at night I think they win. Yeah, almost everyone. I mean they literally this third in La Liga. Almost at the top of the table behind Real and Barcelona. What, you've heard of them?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

JJ's Espanol C number three in there. Yeah, that is. And then Burnley lost the heartbreaker against Liverpool. Terrible last minute. Liverpool never walked alone the entire time. Time they got some interesting kits and a billion dollar investment from Adidas and they got a new coach. And boy, they're top of the table. Yeah. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Don Cowboys, Bubba Gampino. Liverpool's walking alone this year or no. Top of the table right now.

[C]

Champions League today we play.

[E]

Oh, geez.

[A]

Big game against Athletico Madrid, my apologies, but Burnley has played a lot better this season. They're fighting with the very good teams.

[C]

I think they will stay up this season.

[A]

Okay, and that's the conversation we have had on this day's show about Burnley. Correct. And Espanol.

[B]

How long into the season are we good?

[A]

It never ends. Five games. Oh, five games in from the end or from five games?

[D]

Just started.

[A]

Seasons all off season. What season is this one? This one's the big one. This is La Liga Premier League just started. But what were they doing? That was the Club World Cup. 100 million, I heard. Yeah, they won.

[D]

It's a hell of a preseason.

[B]

Burnley won.

[A]

No, Chelsea. Chelsea got 100 million for winning.

[C]

I don't think they got invites.

[A]

Yeah, they didn't make. Some of those teams gave up 25 goals.

[C]

That's a good point. Some of those teams are also really.

[A]

Pissed because a lot of their players are getting hurt early in the season now. Oh yeah, they've been playing all year round. Yeah, they never stop, which is kind of. There's a new super Duper cup coming around the corner in soccer all the time. So we'll talk to J.J. watt about American football and also congratulate him on Espanol and Burnley doing. But the segment on Wednesdays that we all get excited about also has a theme today and it's a word theme. Ladies and gentlemen, the host of AQ's Takeaways and In the Trenches top five perform. No lines. Ladies and gentlemen, 12 year NFL vet, Super bowl champion player, coach for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, also a member at one point of the Arizona Cardinals. For now, he is the color commentator. The Indianapolis Colts, the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Philadelphia Eagles, ladies and gentlemen. He had short arms. The only man to ever play offensive line in the NFL with under 30 inch arms. He is AQ Shipley.

[F]

True journeyman.

[A]

Whip you a hall of Famer, Penn State cultist. Definitely a member of that. Firm believer in Penn State. What do you think?

[F]

I think they're pretty good. They better get it figured out though. That's what I think.

[A]

What does that mean?

[F]

I mean you're playing Florida International and all these cupcakes early.

[D]

That's a good program.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

You're struggling. It's 14 to nothing at HA. No, we need 65 to nothing. That's what Ohio State, that's what Oregon, that's what the good ones are doing. I'd like to see it. I know he's trying to.

[A]

I was in a battle with Ohio. Navarro got Hurt. And then Ohio State pulled away. Still early in the season, man. Still early in the season.

[F]

Do you know what's happening next week?

[A]

What's happening next week?

[F]

Penn State, Oregon. Not early anymore. We're going. Time to go.

[A]

Oregon. Now that is a team that has just been pounding teams. Yeah, Oregon's been doing it. Also. Nebraska has been pounding teams. So congrats to Penn State. Let's go win a national championship, huh?

[B]

Hell yeah.

[A]

Come on. There's a chance that Penn State is actually the home of Song and Politelli next year. Especially because the better pray. I believe the bidding is going to get into that. And Drew Outer will be in the NFL at that point, we assume maybe the number one overall pick depending upon how the year goes for him in this entirety. But Penn State's always going to be in it for the foreseeable future because they have more money than everybody else. No, Oregon has more money. Maybe Michigan has more money. They actually have Larry Ellison, the richest guy in the world, as one of their bank. Oracle, one of the guys, one of the companies that just bought TikTok, which is like the biggest sale in the history of sales or whatever, now backs Michigan because significant other is Michigan. So they were just able to collect that everything like Texas has three different funds, four different funds who dumping money in there. They say Penn State's got one AD who has a phone call to the largest base of CEOs. They were able to raise $700 million just to rebuild stadium. And oh yeah, that's going to happen quicker than ever because they're hiring every Amish person, I assume in Pennsylvania to build up that as quickly as they're going to be able to build that up to. It's going to become the biggest place and then they can get any athlete, any player, any sport. Right now, Penn State is in a golden era potentially. Right? Do you not feel that way?

[F]

Absolutely. They got the number one hockey player. They're killing it in every sport. I mean, they're top 10 in every sport in the fall right now.

[B]

Okay. Yeah, that's. I was just going to say, like you talk about the CEOs, like this continues to happen. The players that are then going to be alumni at Penn State and like Drew Aller maybe is the number one overall pick by the end of the year. McKenna, the hockey player is for sure, no matter what, going to be the number one overall, but he's the next, you know, one as they deem.

[A]

I don't think anybody that's ever met a Penn State person is necessarily pumped that they're going to be good at every sport going forward.

[F]

I don't like that one bit.

[A]

I don't know what that means.

[B]

You know what it means.

[A]

You know what that means.

[B]

I mean, they're switching to Adidas next year.

[A]

Yeah. Well, that's a big time deal that we've read about some of the other deals that are happening around the place. Feels like people are making bad deals all the time. Adidas is in the game, though. Yeah. Hey, Adidas. We're open for conversation. We love what you're doing for sport.

[B]

Love it all day. After you about sports, baby.

[A]

Boom. Adi, Dawson, Hammer, of course. But Penn Staters, you know what that means. I mean, if you guys get good, you're going to get loud and for good reason. Your teams are seemingly all in great campus, great university, great school and great sports will be great news for all of you. But let's talk about the NFL. Hey, Kyush, what were your big takeaways from week two? Was there anything that we missed maybe or things that you need to emphasize a little bit more?

[F]

Well, running game is down. We can clearly see that. My eyes have not deceived me as I check the stats to. It is hard right now. It is hard right now to find offensive lines playing really well across the league. But we got five good ones later today.

[A]

Okay. On average, the top rushing teams gained almost 30 fewer yards per game in 2025 compared to 2024. That's a lot of yards. Three first downs just by itself, let alone those are coming in like a four yard clip normally. So that's a lot of plays. That's crazy that it's down. What's that mean? We're not blocking anymore. We're letting the quarterbacks kind of do their thing a little bit.

[F]

Well, let's echo coach BA sentiment and the fact that we don't play in the preseason anymore. So defenses will always be ahead and whenever you start training camp, it's very similar to the first week of the season. And when you look at defenses across the league, I think over the last couple years we've seen rushing yards go up, we've seen the fullbacks climb, we've seen running games go up, we've seen a lot more cover to right play. Bend, but don't break defense. Now we are attacking on first down. We don't want to get behind the change.

[A]

I like that. Yeah. I like everything about it. I like that the sport is potentially evolving. We thought it was going to be ground and pound Season. We thought I was going to go back to old school football strictly because the Philadelphia Eagles won. So that was almost like a green light to everybody else. Hey, this is how you build a team. It's much like when Steph Curry in Golden State win. Okay? Everybody sees that and they're like, oh, you can win doing this. So every human on earth got a jumper. It's very similar in the NFL. If somebody sees success, they go, oh, that is what we're supposed to do. That is what wins. Let's do that. That's just natural for people to do. But it seems like that's not the case. Rushing might not be as good as we thought it was going to be. Yeah, exactly. I think so too.

[D]

Especially with the amount of athletic quarterbacks that can run to that can. I mean, I feel like most of the quarterbacks get like 25, 30 yards when they take off and run. Most of the ones that aren't pocket quarterbacks. So that's very surprising, especially to start the season.

[A]

These linemen stink. Whoa. Kind of sounds like they probably soft.

[F]

I think, I think the game plans have changed. If your running game is good, your entire playbook is open. Right. And I think if you look, just look at Cleveland this past week, not a good team. Obviously heard you guys all talking about it yesterday. The Browns will be the Browns. Right.

[A]

But not all of us said that.

[F]

Derek Henry 23 yards and Lamar Jackson had 13. So they're stopping the run now. You also got to stop the pass.

[B]

Well, yeah, like quarterbacks are playing better, I feel like. And like the under stats have still been hitting. So I'm not saying there's a bunch of points but like Russ has already thrown for 450. I don't know the stats, but I'm assuming it wasn't two weeks in last year where there was a 400 yard passer. Dak, he threw all over the yard against the Cowboys too. I mean, or against the Giants in that game as well. And then even if you go Back to week one, there are multiple 300 yard passers. Think about Rogers, Rogers, week one. I mean that was Rogers from four years ago and we saw him week one against the jets and he had four touchdowns. So it's almost as if if all the teams are with that mentality, hey, we're just going to stop the run and see what happens. Now all the quarterbacks are like, okay, sweet.

[A]

This is spotlight back on quarterbacks getting man to man coverage or single coverages or anything like that. Yeah.

[B]

And like even just like, it's the.

[A]

Rebirth of the quarterback, being able to be the option for an offense.

[B]

And the one thing that, you know, in preseason that might not matter as much in games is that connection with your number one wide receiver. Like, I wonder if you look across the board as well, how the number one receivers are doing, because it feels as though a lot of them have been, you know, pretty dominant thus far.

[A]

All right, let's get to your takeaway, shall we? Rushing down around the league. We don't like that. Hopefully we see a wrong game, come back out there. What else do you think we should talk about more? Yes. Daniel Jones, Blitz. Conqueror.

[C]

Love it.

[A]

See the word conqueror there with an or at the end. That might be a theme here. How many of those words exist? Enough is what we would say. And I'm happy that you brought this up because BA Actually recorded this in the Thunderdome immediately after the show ended. He sat down, may or may not have had a little glass of vitamins with one big ice in it. He took a couple sips and he said, we didn't even talk about Danny Dimes and recorded this for us today. Great show today. Okay, we did not talk enough about Danny Dimes. What he did against the blitz was amazing. Denver is a hell of a defense. This guy kicked their ass. Okay, so that's what BA Thinks. Aq, is that exactly what your point is as well? And is Danny Dimes on pace to be the mvp? Are the Colts on pace to win the Super. Is this the best team around the NFL at the moment? Or are they at least in the same exact rushmore of teams that have been so damn dominant and good?

[F]

Vance Joseph, defensive coordinator of the Denver Broncos, loves to bring the blitz early and often, and they did that. And against the blitz, 268 passing yards, 117 passer rating for Danny Dimes. It's incredible. It's incredible. If you look at him here, he's looking all around. He's trying to see what's going on. Looking left, looking right, trying to survey the field. Where's the blitz? Send the line right. Jonathan Taylor coming back. Pick it up. Deep ball down the right sideline to Pierce.

[A]

Hey, shout out Pierce, by the way.

[B]

Filthy.

[A]

Yeah, Pierce making big time plays is great, but you're saying what Danny Dimes did is he understood what was coming. Send the line one way, send Jonathan Taylor the other way. Unprotected. Got to get it out quick. Alec Pierce has a go in single coverage out there. Let me take a shot. All that's happening in processing while Danny Dimes looking at the defense, it's all.

[F]

Happening in a blink of an eye. And whenever you talk about Week 1 of the preseason, who was the quarterback? Anthony Richardson. He got a blitz that you're taught on day one. Didn't know if he was protected.

[A]

Wasn't a blitz. They weren't bringing blitz.

[F]

Oh, yeah, it was a blitz. And he didn't know if he was protected or not. Boom.

[A]

How we get. He got hurt on this.

[F]

There it is.

[A]

Bruce got hurt on this. We could. On that note, though, on that the entirety, Anthony Richardson has played such a limited amount of games in comparison to Danny Dimes. I mean, you're talking high school, college into the NFL. Big learning curve, big upside. We are still pulling for him to reach his potential because his potential would be great for the NFL. But what Danny Dimes allegedly has been doing since the very beginning is understanding what the offense is and also understanding what the defense is. BA Brought this up about how a lot of the young guys nowadays can't dissect what the hell is going on in front of them defensively because they've never been asked to do it. It's not really their fault. It's not really the guys. Well, they've literally never done something. So then whenever they show up at the highest level with the best disguises, the best everything, the fastest guys, all of a sudden now they're being asked like, hey, you got to figure this out. And then once you figure that out, now you're gonna make your decision. And by the way, if they do this, your decision goes from this to this. If they do this, your decision goes from this to this. If they do this, you need to look here, then there, then there. And all that's happening in real time with people flying faster than they've ever found flown. And then also it doesn't take into account one of your offensive linemen gets beat. So now you got to figure out what it is you got to get out of the way. And now you got to dissect which option is the best in real time. What if 1, 2 are covered and the offensive line messes up? Happens now you got to avoid three things in the middle of a play and also look things and get to your third person. The amount of mental stress that is, let alone physical stress, because you got to be able to make all those moves, plus a sense of feel that you have to have that this is all happening in real time. To get there, you got to play a lot of ball. I don't think you just kind of show up on day one like that. And I think this is the biggest reason why, you know, college offenses have changed completely. College offenses now are utilizing their weapons that they have the most athletic guy on the field. And we'll just continue with Anthony Richardson in this conversation. Anytime he's been on any sporting anything, he's been basketball court, most athletic guy on there. He went down at tennis court, if you want to. Most athletic guy on there. Football field, most athletic guy. So his entire life, all the coaches see a lot of success because they got the most athletic guy. It's like, we just. We need to keep this very simple. If that guy comes here, you're going there, that guy stays there, you're handing it off. And then once the offense just gets like, basic. And it's basic and it's basic, but it has success, the coaches and I think the other people around him at those levels are like, why would we. This is. This is successful. He was the number four overall pick because of that stuff.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

But then once it all starts happening at the highest level, I think a lot of these young guys just have no idea what the hell is going on. So Baker has a chance to have a lot of success because he's had a lot of failures in the past and he's seen it before. At least he's not being dropped into the fire immediately upon. Sam Darnold has a chance to have success because he's seen it before. Not that it's because he's had great success in prior places, even though he did it in Minnesota, but it's like he's seen it before. Mac Jones potentially has a chance to be very good. Not saying that Brock Purdy isn't, but Mac Jones has a chance to be very good because he's had so many failures and he's seen so many things. And if you can remember those situations, you can kind of take advantage of them in the future. And it's like Anthony Richardson, I don't think is close to getting to that point yet. Not that it's like an easy thing to get at. Everything I just laid out, it's hard. But Danny Dimes coming in and knowing all that shit, I assume Shane Steichen and the boys, everybody on the offense is more comfortable, would you say, kind of going into games knowing that, hey, we at least got somebody on the field that can put us in the right position in most cases, because that's a big deal for a quarterback as well.

[F]

That's half the battle. Understanding Protection might be the biggest thing a quarterback needs to know whenever he's playing the quarterback position in the National Football League. In college, you can get away with a lot of stuff, but if you don't understand protection, you don't understand when you're protecting, when you're not protected, your coach can't play you.

[A]

You learn that by getting. Yeah.

[C]

Blasted.

[A]

And Danny Dimes got blasted a lot.

[D]

Yes, Too much. And now you got to have talent, so you got to have guys that. Who can block and protect. You got to have a back who can protect. We've seen clips going around of backs not being in a good pass protection and obviously good coaching because you can't be thinking, you got to be prepared. You got to be able to just be free and play ball.

[C]

Yeah, it's small sample size, but are we sure that this hasn't just always been Danny Dimes and it was the offensive line in New York and it's like you get blasted that. I mean, you. Who knows how many times he got hit from the blind side and fumbled and then we're just killing him. Like, this guy sucks. He can't protect the football. It's like, are we sure that he wasn't this guy the whole time? And now it's just perfect situation. He has an old line that's good. He has a coach that, you know, he pairs well with and he's got. He's got playmakers on the outside as well.

[B]

And just think about his weapons. Yeah, the playmakers. When he, you know, the best standing dimes you ever saw was him going into Minnesota and beating the Vikings the year. The Vikings, when all those one score games, Danny Dimes on the road with, you know, Saquon and Isaiah Hodgins, who I believe is on a practice squad somewhere, still doing it, but still that's who Danny Dimes was thrown to. And Darius Slayton, also still a good player, has been paid. But Michael Pittman Jr. Has had a thousand yards with every single quarterback he's played with, and there's been six of them.

[A]

And Alex Pierce, Alec Pierce is an actual deep threat. Just never really had the opportunity, I think with sustainable offense. And maybe he's just finding his stride right now. O line has Josh Downs, another weapon. Unbelievable. He has Jonathan Taylor in the backfield. Yeah, he in the offensive line, like.

[B]

Just the continuity at quarterback. They've never. The O line has been solid, but they've had to change their style of protection since Philip Rivers because it's been different damn near every year.

[A]

And added to the team this year, maybe the best player in football, Tyler Ward.

[F]

He's unbelievable. And they go to him in so many different ways. This. I think this is the play right here.

[A]

Yep.

[F]

They're gonna motion him into fullback and then he's gonna go through the A gap on a little seven route over top of the linebacker. Just get him the ball out in space. Watch out. Doesn't go out of bounds. Lower the shoulder at the end. Always let your presence know.

[A]

Where'd he go to school?

[B]

That cult.

[A]

Which one?

[F]

Penn State.

[B]

Yeah, he was off the board.

[A]

Yeah. Coast and Loveland was out of Michigan. Now they were saying he wasn't fast enough. They got him releasing out of the A gap, making it look like he's a lead blocker in a run. I mean, he had the Broncos defense. Feels like Shane Steichen schemed up this Broncos defense pretty good as well. D. But you're on the call.

[D]

Yes. Very good scheming. You mention they. They blitzed him the entire game. He just kept figuring out when you got a guy like, you Never know where 84 is going to be. He can be in line. He can be split out of wide receiver. He can be lined up at fullback. Shit, he can be under center and taking a snap. And when you're running routes like that, we don't go over those type of pass concepts. You're not going to see. You see Puka do this. We saw Calvin Austin do it kind of through the B gap. But you don't see a tight end running the 7 route from the A gap. And he's always open because of his size. He's always a mismatch because of his size and his speed. His shiftiness is pretty. I think that's the. That's the surprising element. Usually you see a big boy like that in spades. You're like, okay, I can saw him in half. Like, nah, he. He's giving guys the business in open field.

[A]

And now. What were you calling Shane Steichen last year?

[B]

I think we're calling him shite. Stinking, I believe. And. And to.

[A]

To be honest, that's not. We weren't. No, you. You were. I think.

[B]

Well, I. I don't know. I think I heard it a few times from multiple people. I know a lot of people on the Internet were saying it, but. But I mean, that's the thing. If we're. Maybe we keep calling him Shade Styk and we start calling him.

[A]

He's clearly in his bag. So he just did. With Tyler Warren coming out as a fullback. 7 Rod through the A gap. I mean, that's Shane stinking in his bag.

[B]

Exactly. I'm thinking maybe we go with the poop theme. Danny Dumps.

[A]

You know, that's what I'm saying. There's never gonna that day.

[B]

Wet wipes, Warren. I mean, we can go all the way.

[A]

There's a chance that that day comes. But I'll tell you what, with these eyes, boots on the ground, I ain't seen it anytime soon. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is the ESPN pundit of all things NFL. He is literally the expert on anything you need to know when it comes to American football. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. Dan. Oh, you're really getting after this morning. Is that an everyday thing? We didn't have a full conversation while you're getting after it this morning with the kettlebell and the bodyweight stuff working out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[G]

I, I always say, like, one of the benefits of being fortunate enough to play like, sports so long is it's had such a good impact on, like, post actual sports playing life. I used to do it for vanity, you know, I still think I do a little bit, but I can't really go a day without working out for my brain or like, I feel like I just become crazy edgy and, you know, not fun to be around. So, yeah, I got to kind of get to a point of physical pain almost on a daily basis.

[A]

I respect that. Just beat the hell out of yourself. Whatever gets you by. Whatever makes life the best and I need it. Man, from a vanity perspective, you look good. You look good, brother. Just want to let you know it's all paying off. You know, Those suits this year look extra snug, don't they? Oh, yeah, they got tight. Yeah.

[G]

And maybe I've actually put on a couple pounds and that's why they look as tight as they do now.

[A]

See that you were doing the whole thing about not having confidence about the shape that you're in. Vanity stuff. You look good. You need to know that you look unbelievable. But it did feel as if the suits, instead of getting them a couple sizes too big because, you know, we might get through holiday season. This might be a little bit. It feels like you were aggressive in this one. Said, take it in. Yeah, this is me. This is me.

[G]

I always, I always say that. I always say it to my wife when my wife is like clothes shopping or something, because my wife is such a small lady and she's like, man, this is too small. And I'd be like, get It. It'll force you to stay in shape, girls you to stay in shape.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

How's the trail mix?

[A]

Yeah. What are you doing?

[B]

You're such a dick.

[A]

Yeah. You're not, are you? Are you Brad Pitt in Ocean's Eleven series?

[G]

The great movie?

[A]

Yeah. And he's always Brad Pitt. You see what I'm saying? Vanity purposes.

[G]

No, No. I don't remember him and his character always eating in that movie.

[B]

It's his thing. Dude, you're being a doucher eating those pretzels.

[A]

No, I don't think that's the case. I think you look like.

[G]

Have you seen a mirror, bud?

[A]

Oh, geez.

[B]

Am I eating right now? And just so you know, respectfully, go to hell.

[A]

Okay. I like that. I appreciate that, Dana. We're doing AQ's takeaways. We're through the first one or the second one. Rushing down was the first one. Second one. Danny Dimes, blitz conqueror. Because of what he was able to do, the Denver Broncos, they blitzed him over 70% of the time. He had a 117 or something like that. QBR against the blitz for 268 yards and everything like that. Is there anything you want to add to the Danny Dimes conversation that maybe we've left off that you have seen?

[G]

No, I think the overall thought in Indy, in relation to everything is, like, you got to give Shane credit. He had a lot of noise on how it was handled and what quarterback he should go to. I thought he should have gone with Anthony. Obviously, that would have been wrong because Daniel's playing so well. So you got to give him a lot of credit. I think the second thing is it's just a high level of trust right now. When I watch play calling, oftentimes you can. You can watch play calling from a quarterback's perspective, and you can get the information of are you trusted or not. And I think that that's the thing that pops off the tape is they just trust Daniel right now because they're so aggressive throwing the football in early downs. We did something yesterday. I think, you know, they've thrown the ball 18 or 20 times on first down. That's an indicator of, like, we. We believe in you. I think they've thrown the ball, like, 13 times on second down, so that's something that stands out, and you're starting to see a little bit more of that creativity. I just, you know, AQ's blip. I mean, that really for you guys, like, and, you know, this is like that sale. It's just somebody Deep somebody, middle somebody, short. And they just are super. This is sale. Daniel's run this play over a thousand times in his life. Not in that regard, though. Not the way that they got to it. You see those three levels, That's a perfect shot of it right there. And so just the ability to take a very basic concept. You're going to see a deep guy, middle guy and a short guy and make it look like something completely different even though it's not. And so now Tyler being a huge part of that. So you're seeing the creativity back for Shane and then give credit to Daniel. I would say that Daniel is playing in a way that we never seen him play.

[A]

I've.

[G]

Daniel Jones coming out of school was a guy that would always panic under pressure, panic with the football. That's why he had those turnovers. He's actually under pressure a decent amount in these first two weeks. Like he's dealing with chaos and he's been flawless in it, you know, and it's. That's what's been remarked. I mean, this throws big time now. I mean, it's big time. Throw downs is great, by the way. So, yeah, a lot of good stuff on their tape. A lot of it.

[A]

Yeah, I agree. And he's been tough for us. The Dimes dive has three touchdowns in the first two weeks. Even if we don't get it the first three downs, who cares? Run it again. Yeah, this dude is tough for us. He's big for us and he's much more athletic, I think, than most people give him credit for. We've always hit the Danny Dimes over rush yard prop. Okay. That has been since the beginning. He's a much better runner than you would think just by looking at him. And we're saying that strictly because of all the stereotypes. Yes, that is why we're saying it. Out of Duke, what he looks like, everything like that, you would think this guy, there's no way he can move. He can. He still has got a different gear too. This past weekend. Somebody breaks free, I think, right offense looking out, right defensive end or pass rusher. And Danny, he's two feet from Danny Dimes, maybe a foot. And Danny Dimes turns, runs double clutch, puts it in new gear, hits a different gear on this guy, gets to the edge, gain of like four, I think, as opposed to a sack that happened. And obviously I'm not comparing that against Anthony Richardson, but I certainly was comparing that against my thoughts of Danny dimes. And he's 28 years old. He's just Hitting his physical prime young like he. Everything that is up or has been potential upside for Danny Dimes is seemingly all hitting right now. His recollection of coverages, his recollection of everything that's going to happen, his knowledge of the plays, which is like that Duke education is all coming together. Like he learned it all very quickly. His feel for the game after getting his aspect beat. I think for so long with the Giants. Good. His humility, not that it was ever gone, but now he literally can't listen to anything because outside noise has been so loud for everything. Never even had an opportunity to dive into that stuff. It's like, we got the guy. We got a guy here in Indianapolis. It's like a perfect fit for us too.

[G]

I think one of those things too that I feel is consistently showing itself maybe a little bit more recently or not. And so this is the. Okay, this is the conversation around Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Geno Smith. And it seems at least through two weeks, Daniel Jones is like, and I know Geno didn't play well Monday night, but there's a big body of work that Geno Smith is. It's like there is something to be said for these younger quarterbacks just getting absolutely embarrassed publicly. Like getting, you know, they're. They're just going through hell essentially professionally and not. Not breaking and like not allowing that to break them and then using it to a positive way, like continuing their process, continuing to work, believing in yourself, not allowing doubt to become more than self belief. And it's paying off. Now, I'm not saying it's going to be that case for everybody, but it does seem like that is a overwhelming common theme between those guys.

[A]

Yeah, being mentally calloused is a good thing, I think. Think, you know. Yeah, they're embattled. Whenever it comes to everybody thinking or them thinking that everybody has the same opinion about them, which is a negative one because they can get real loud and those ones steal thoughts. You know, for me, I still go through it because they can get real loud, negative things said. It's like, man, how many people feel that way? Does everybody feel that way? Should I feel that way about me? Yeah. And then all.

[G]

Is it true?

[A]

Yeah, exactly. You start going in like, yeah, that is exactly the. That is true. Actually. I never really thought. And then you start getting in there and then you lose your confidence. And if you lose your confidence as a quarterback, it's everything. I mean, as anything, you lose your confidence. So you got to like fight through that. And the fact that Danny had it in the biggest market. Yeah. In the biggest way.

[B]

Following a Super bowl legend quarterback.

[A]

Eli. He was supposed to be the next one. Same coach. Remember Coach Cutcliffe? Great man. Got a chance to meet him this past weekend down there in Tennessee. Good guy. But it was like, this is the next. Hey, you got him. Good job. Why'd we draft this guy? He's Eli. He's Eli, but more athletic. We drafted who? He's Eli, but more athletic. And then it doesn't work out. And it's like bang, bang, bang, bang.

[B]

And then when it does work out, they pay him because he wins a playoff game. And because they pay him and it doesn't work out, he gets killed.

[A]

This guy made more money than Eli Manning ever made. Yeah, it is a. It's a lot. But, you know, mentally calloused, physically hardened, you know, and his mind seems to be sharp with what defenses are currently doing, and he. He fits Shane Steichen's offense perfectly. You see what Shane would do. Obviously, with Phil Rivers at Chargers, it was a lot more throwing, not a lot of moving, but whatever. Shane Steichen really came into his own is with Jalen Hurts in Philadelphia. Jalen can move. He's physical, he's strong. Anthony Richardson was a guy I think, that they wanted for Shane Steichen because they were going to be able to do that. Danny Dimes has all that shit. Danny Dimes has all of that shit as well. We're in a good spot. Okay, what's the next takeaway from week two that we should talk more about?

[F]

Akush, the Detroit Lions got back to doing what they did last year.

[A]

Oh, you're talking about the great resurrector. All the way back. The Detroit Lions. Go ahead, aq. What did you see from them?

[F]

Yeah, they got back to doing the shifts and the motions and running the football. They look like a completely different team from week one to week two. And right here, you get Laporta in motion, you get the crack toss at the point of attack. You can see in motion, and boom. Crack, get around, bend outside. Touchdown on the next one. Unbelievable play here. Unbelievable. We're gonna send the whole line right. We're gonna motion Laporta, we're gonna run the bend back, the fake zone, right. Get everybody out to the left. So much eye candy, so many shifts, so many motions. This is exactly. Line goes right, they get Taylor Decker. Taylor Decker out in front. They get laporte out in front. They get Gibbs bending it back all the way against the zone, over the top, ball handling Defense has no idea where this ball is going. This is exactly why they had so much success last year, was all the eye candy, the shifts, the motions, and running the football.

[B]

The ball fake there too. Got that left D. And very, very badly. If you saw golf on that, on that counter too, how important is that, Dan, when it comes to play action, fakes for the ball fake. Because we all saw Rogers get another guy like he did back in the day.

[G]

Yeah, that's actually a good observation. A good point too. It's a huge deal. And I think it's something that. Yeah, I was being serious there. I think it's something so that there's obviously a lot of conversation about quarterback development that has, you know, kind of been a hot button topic over the past, you know, week or two. That is a. Something that is the way quarterbacks used to get taught in a lot in certain offenses was a massive thing like AQ knows it. The run game works because all 11 are attached to the run game. You know, it's not like the offensive line blocked good and the running back ran well. It's, you know, in your run game, it's the proper scheme. And everybody is synchronized with the way that they're going about their blocks. And the quarterback and his handoff or his, you know, his fake after the handoff on a bootleg or the way he snaps it. I remember getting taught when I was early, you know, when like the. The Shanahan Kubiak three of like, you know, we would run zone and I would hand the ball off and we would do drills where like, I would put the ball in the running back stomach like Arian Foster or someone like that or Steve Slayton. And we would have a drill where we would hand the ball off or be in the process of. And our coach at the very last minute would be like, like, pull it. You know, and so we had the process of like giving the ball to back. No, I'm not. And so. And then snapping our head downfield. And so I think a lot of that stuff has gone away from the position in many ways because it's just not emphasized as much anymore. And, you know, I think that Goff's a guy that was trained under Sean and knows how important those details are to the run game of the bootleg or the. The hand. I always talk about with these quarterbacks who are handed the ball from underneath. Like, you know, we were always taught like, it's a dealer at a casino and you're dealing.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

And your offhand has got to Be, excuse me, in the stomach. Because a defensive end, if I'm a quarterback and I open up to my right to hand the ball off, the defensive end is trying to see is my other hand like hanging off of my body. Because if so it's. They're thinking that's a tell is maybe he does that on the handoffs. And so that defensive end can then crash down the line of scrimmage, you get the backside. And so you're trying to all make it look the same. And so that's actually a good observation by Boston. Connor is like, you know, golf's got that stuff that it's all connected.

[A]

I love that Connor and you just had a good football moment. I was trying to find a ball.

[B]

I mean, just wait for the moment that's coming between me and Dan O in three weeks.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

When we can really talk about a future storyline of the NFL season this year. And that's Drake May football, baby.

[A]

Okay, on that note, let's go to Hamilton.

[C]

He played good.

[A]

Tone has a question for you.

[C]

Yeah, I was just looking for it, Dan. I couldn't find the tweet, but you put out a K. Moore tweet from week one about his film that I thought I saw a Drake May tweet about his film from week two.

[G]

Yeah, you did. Yeah, you did.

[C]

Did Jake May look awesome as well?

[G]

I would tell you that I thought this was the best game of him as a professional.

[A]

Wow.

[G]

I thought with when it comes to some of the stuff that Drake May did now, a little bit of his credit to Josh McDaniel, I thought they moved him a lot more. I mean he's such a big time athlete. They moved him so the athleticism was a, a bigger part of the game in his game. And he throws so well on the run. I thought some of the ball placement throws that he had versus some decent coverage was big time. And then his ball fakes have, you know, grown a lot. This ball to booty is absolutely perfect on the, on the one on one down the red zone, the ball to the back down the sideline, this one to Ramandre, like that's that this ball, I don't care if the guy's in his back pocket, it's perfect. And so I think when it comes to this, you know, like Drake last year, there was a tremendous amount of growth in his feet into pocket and his movement and throwing in rhythm and timing. And then this game, it was like, listen, there's a lot of remnants in this game of Ben Roethlisberger and Josh Allen and just the style of play. If you just took the jersey, there's a lot of stuff that look like early guys of Ben Roethlisberger and Josh Allen. Style wise, big time.

[A]

Yeah. Conor was just squirming in his seat.

[B]

Well, then I remembered I need to temper what I. What. What I am, you know, hearing, because it is Dan Goski and I'm not sure, you know how long.

[G]

We had a moment. We had a moment.

[A]

You're talking about the Dan Wagon, where the Dan Wagon does get latched to a lot of different players earlier in.

[B]

The season and he lasted to Cam warden. They lost 33, 19 and he played great. Did you set up a throw film? Yeah, the film. I know I'm a player, but I.

[A]

Think everybody has said, including Dan Cam Ward good, Titans bad.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

So he's saying Drake made good at least now. Patriots good.

[B]

Tbd.

[A]

Question mark.

[G]

Yeah, they're not. They're not talented enough to be like good, I don't think. But I think that Drake, you didn't.

[A]

Have to give an answer there. I. There was. That was not an expected answer.

[G]

But I do appreciate swing at it.

[B]

You know, it see something.

[G]

I swing at it, man.

[A]

Yes, you do. Geez. All right, let's give you something to swing at. That's great. Out in Los Angeles. D, Bud has a question for you.

[D]

Yeah. Another quarterback who I wouldn't say has had development issues. He's been a star since he stepped on the scene, in my opinion, but has had to change a lot of coaches and things like that, playing very, very good football. Justin Herbert came out of the gate swinging. Offense looks different under Greg Roman as well. What's your early thoughts on Justin Herbert in the Chargers? Offense is.

[G]

I think the Chargers as a team are as complete as anybody in football. I think they're as well coached as anybody in football. Offensively, it just feels different. It feels like in their belief, they've got the best player in the NFL and they just cut them loose on early downs. Nowadays it is just play action pass after play action pass and early downs. In their words, the health he has this year is a big deal. You know, Greg Roman talked to us last year about Justin in relation to last year and he said they watched 23 and 24, 2023 and 2024 tape and they were like just the ankle and how it affected all parts of it. That's a sick throw. All parts of his game they under appreciated and so his legs are a big deal this year. I think this diva, like just from a Phyllis, this is fourth and one and he gets to the third read Keenan Allen. Keenan Allen, by the way, got a chance to be a Hall of Famer. Okay. Like legit when you look at his numbers. Got a chance to be a Hall of Famer. So, okay, like this is what I want to say about the Chargers offensively. Again, I mentioned the early down passing and whatnot. They're huge on offense physically, like their offensive line. Think about it in this old school Baltimore, in a way. Massive offensive lineman Joe Alter, left tackle looks like Jonathan Ogden. Then they take like Matlock, who's their 300 pound tight end or fullback. They put him on the field. So you got six cats on the field that are £300 plus. And then they go play action passes and so you can't get to the quarterback. And then McConkey's got great speed and feel. Greg Roman told us or Coach Harbaugh said McConkey reminds him of Marvin Harrison. Just his ability to get open. Quentin Johnston's downfield getting open. Their tight ends are good players. Their backs average 235 pounds and so they're just a difficult matchup right now. And offensively, man, dude, they're playing at a high level and then defensively, but you could talk to it better than me. But like I told you guys, Derwent, Pat, I told you Derwin's great. Like Derwin's great man to talk to. But like I think the thing that makes them difficult on defense debut is they force you to be patient as a play caller and quarterback with their style. But you know, you have to get explosive plays against them. And those two things I don't think can happen at the same time, you know, and so I. You like, you end up chasing stuff, but you shouldn't. They don't give you completions. They play a zone defense, but it's not your traditional zone defense where they just go to areas they're matching concepts, then they're matching routes and they're matching, you know, three level stuff where it's like, yes, it's a zone, but it feels like zone, man, but it's a zone. And so it's hard to play against.

[D]

That unit, man, they just suffocated. And they have players that can do multiple things. The guys on the outside they play well, but you can have Derwin James depending on the week. Okay, we got Brock Bowers and Brock wasn't, you know, fully healthy, but hey, we got Brock, we got Kelsey. We need you to take that guy out of the game or, you know, we'll use you more in a run game or we'll use you in a deep run through. Like just a bunch of guys on the same page, flying around, no egos. It almost reminds you of like a college defense. Like, like that Michigan defense that Mentor had in Michigan. He carried that shit right over. You saw glimpses of it last year, but this year everybody's on the same page.

[A]

So will OCS be able to figure this out or no? I guess that's a question for you, Dan. Like, is it so early in the season that it's like towards the later end of the season, are people going to be able to understand what they're doing?

[G]

No, Pat. I mean, this was the number one defense points per game in the NFL last year. They gave us 17 points a game last year, too.

[A]

How come nobody talked about that? Dan? I expect you to.

[G]

You know, like, I would tell you this.

[A]

You and Fowler and Riddick were talking about it maybe on Monday night, but before that, I didn't hear that one one time. Come out of the.

[G]

I think it's a great question of like, how do you play against it and have success against it. I think you have to be able to get bigger than them at the line of scrimmage and control the run game. So two teams that I think immediately have the ability to do that are Buffalo and Baltimore. AQ would know a little bit about that more than me, but I, I just think you, you're not going to think and dunk your way down the field against this defense. You're just not over the course of four quarters and you are not going to hit big explosive plays that often. You're just not. So you've got to be able to control the line, scrimmage, you got to hit your shots.

[D]

It's like, it's like when you playing the great quarterbacks, like going into the game with like great quarterbacks, like, you're playing Brady, you're playing man and you're playing Patrick Mahomes. They may give you two opportunities to make a play on the ball.

[G]

You got to make them, you got.

[D]

To make the play. You can't drop interception. They're going to drive down and score or get a touch that field goal, whatever. So it's the same way with this charge defense. You got to run the ball and respect the run and maybe they drop it. Say, maybe they do something a little out of character. You get them off. But if they stay on schedule and they're playing, you're not beating them. And when you do have an opportunity to hit an explosive play, you better hit it because you probably aren't going to get another chance for the next two or three drives. So that's. It's the same mindset as a defensive player. We're playing those guys. That's the offensive mindset with these guys.

[A]

So that guy's a head coach very soon.

[D]

Yep. Harbaugh said it.

[G]

Mentor.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Stud.

[G]

Absolute studio.

[A]

So if he was up for a job and you were up for a job, you'd be like, you should take him. Yeah, no question. Not even close. Hey, actually, I'll do your offense book. Something to think about out there. Yeah, he's. That building is awesome, too. I don't know if you're out there, obviously, or have been out there. Brand new practice facility. Huge, beautiful place. Brand new, state of the art everything basically there, the vibes from equipment room, training room, the food, the chefs, you name everybody is all going in the same direction. It is wonderful out there. And Harbaugh feels like the perfect guy to bring it all together. And Herbert is a dude certified. What we all believe. Speaking of another guy certified won a Super Bowl. Some people say average. Maybe won a Super bowl last year and I think even called his own shot dagger to win, I think. Go ahead, Ty.

[C]

Yeah, Dan, where are you currently at on Jalen Hurts? Because I remember you came on, you know, when we were at the hall of Fame and you basically said, hey, last year he didn't play like a top half of the league quarterback, and we kind of gave you hell for it. And then, you know, promptly got you off the show. And then a couple weeks later on Get Up, I believe you said that, you know, him and Sirianni are like the modern day Belichick and Brady. And I think a lot of people didn't listen to what you said. They just said this guy said he sucked last year and now he's calling him Tom Brady two weeks later. So they were like, Dano's a. Yeah.

[A]

You kind of got out of context. Quoted pretty good.

[C]

You did, you did. And by your own showing, that's neither here nor there. That's going to happen.

[D]

Used to it.

[C]

Obviously, Jalen, he hasn't really been filling up the stat sheet like crazy, but they continue to win. Where are you on Jalen Hurts right now?

[B]

Yeah.

[G]

So I. I feel the same that I did about his performance last season. And then the reason why I said the Belichick Brady thing was like, it was like in relation to their style of just whatever it takes to win. Like, the obsession, no noise, hyper focus, all that. So I think, like, this week one, I thought he was tremendous because it was what the defense was giving him the opportunity to do, and it basically pitched a perfect game. And then when I watched week two, I don't think there was a ton more that he could have done with the football. I. I just like right now, their past game through two weeks, so no one. I'm not, like, you know, burning it up, but, like, they ran the same route with A.J. brown 10 times from the same location. You know, it's. And there's A and D, but, like, there's a beauty in this, like, of doing the simple stuff, and I can appreciate that. Like, hey, our guy, we're gonna line up and we're gonna run the same route and.

[A]

Stop it. No, it's happening again. It's happening again.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

They just beat the Chiefs. And people are calling for people to be fired.

[C]

Oh, yeah, they want this OC5.

[F]

No, I'm not calling for anyone to be fired.

[A]

You're just saying, hey, this guy's running from same route, from the same place 10 times. It's a fact, though.

[G]

That's. That's. It's a fact today. So, like, if we're sitting there going, dissecting, maybe why the stat sheet's not getting filled up or, you know, you're not throwing for 300, you got one of the best receivers in football, and 10 times in that game, he runs up five yards and breaks in. So, like, there's a predictability element of that. And there's also, like, okay, we completed. We got eight yards, you know, and so there. There's just that stink. Yeah, yeah, but you're not trying.

[A]

Never go broke making a profit, brother. That's never seen red if you only take green. You know that's right.

[D]

Peyton went to the hall of Fame off that indie route.

[B]

Chiefs have been back to the Super Bowl.

[D]

But, yeah, I get Dan's point, though, for a defense. And the Chiefs had. I think they held the Eagles to their lowest output since like 2021 or something like that. But, I mean, you lost the game. You lost the game, so that's the big thing. But when you. When you're coming into it, you have a weapon like A.J. brown, you have a $30 million year wide receiver, and he's been. He's been doing and saying all the right things, so kudos to him. But you want to have some type of mystery where you know number 11 is going to be where number six is going to be. How they going to use them Like Justin Jefferson. Slow start this year, young quarterback. But 18 is going to be moving all around. It's tough to gain. We talked about with Tyler Warren. It's tough to game plan. We know coming this big, big problem in the past game, but where the hell is he going to be? How they going to use him this week? How are they going to use them every week?

[G]

It's also like deep, but if you're, if you're killing them, like, if you're killing them with it, keep doing it. It's. It's just their offense from last year to a point, like, hey, they keep running the football well. No one was stopping the run. And then in the super bowl, we're going to stop the run well, we're just going to throw vertical routes to AJ And Devonte. And so like, if you're killing the defense, not a big problem. But when your offense maybe isn't firing on all cylinders and you're not playing the way that you maybe want to, or you're not as successful doing so, then, yeah, I think that you're trying to figure out the why. The why would be like, I have no serious. Right decision. Right decision, right decision, right decision. I could pick and you know, even like their runs that they scored on, I think those were for the most part the same formation and same action. Aq like they get, they. They put formation in the boundary and we ran like weak counter, weak zones. So it's like, yeah, it worked, but you can play better.

[A]

Understandable. Last year, Sirianni beats the Saints down in New Orleans, everybody's calling for his job the next day they get another win the next week, everybody's calling for his job. The next day they get another win the next week, everybody's calling for his job the next day that offense coordinator is like, oh, now it's me. She wants Super Bowl. And with that being said, feels like everybody feels the same way about this offense coordinator. Maybe this offense coordinator looks in the mirror like Dan Campbell did after that first game whenever the reporter says to him, couldn't, in theory, you have run last year's offense and had success. It looked nothing like last year. What do you mean, man? No motions, no shifts. No, it was just boring. It was lame. It was terror, basically, is what this reporter says. And they goes, go see what we did on the road. Dan, like, gets kind of offended. Then you just talked about their offense this week. Shifts, motions everywhere. Dan clearly on the board.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This is our shit. Yeah.

[B]

Lot of shifts, lot of motions. Okay.

[A]

Did it. This guy, whoever the reporter was, he could do that. If you're the O.C. right? In theory. Could change the way he goes about calling plays, designing plays. Yeah.

[D]

It's still early. We were weak too. And you're winning games and to Dan's point, making the right decision. That's what it comes down to playing quarterback. That's what Jalen Hurts has done. I think this is what, 16 straight games where he started, including the playoffs, where he started and won. So if you're making the right decision, you got, you know, 130 yards passing or 80 yards passing or whatever it is, talking shit to Chris Jones or Chris Jones talking shit to him. That's all. If you're down in victory formation at the end of the game, nobody cares. What? Well, Jalen Hurts doesn't care with the stat sheets because there are some quarterbacks who, they come into their locker room after the game and they only have 190 yards pass. They don't feel great. They want to be the reason why and the reason, you know, that team is where they are. Jalen Hurts that's not. Hasn't been as his motive since coming into the league. And I'm sure Eagles fans are fine with that. But you know, fantasy betters, you know, people want to see points, points, points.

[A]

Want to see A.J. brown doing different routes. Yeah, I drafted A.J. brown in the second round. Why is he scoring? I got big Batman. You got to run five yards. Okay. Send the cape down to God damn field a couple of times here. Yeah, I understand.

[D]

Modern day Belichick Brady, because Brady, he will hand it off 47 times. We were a part of, what was it? Garrett Blunt, Jonah Gray, like it didn't matter. Whoever, Boom. Yeah, still run, still running, still running.

[A]

Like Garrett Blunt is still running. I actually see him from the sideline. Watching him just run from my right chin, shoulder, shoulder. From right chin, shoulder, shoulder all the way to left shoulder. It was, it was chin shoulder. There was Legarit Blunt couple times. Maybe the other way too.

[G]

Yeah, Geezy was a good dude. There was a stat like a week or two ago that like Brady is like second or third all time with wins when he's thrown for like a less than 150 yards or something. I believe, you know, it's, it's not.

[A]

Aaron's probably close. Aaron's probably close to Aaron. Rodgers will hand that thing on. Oh, yeah, no problem at all. Like every time his MVP Conversation started like a couple years back. You're like, look at the stats, look at stats, look at stats. It's like, did they win the game or they did win the game? That's all he cares about. It's the right call here is running the ball. Tom Brady, same thing. Now Peyton, I believe the best option sort of sky we're not going to.

[C]

Win if I don't throw for 500 today.

[A]

Now, on that note, super bowl, you got Joseph Adai Dommy Rhodes going crazy in there. And Peyton continued to. Yep, let's go ahead and do this. And it opens up the Reggie old Super Bowls. Yeah, yeah. Joseph. Yeah, definitely. That's. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[B]

When he was. When he went to super bowl with the Broncos, he had 143 passing yards and two picks.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

Like, I think who is the back? Who is the running back?

[B]

No. Sean Marino? Is that.

[G]

No Sean.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. I think personally the quarterbacks that are very good understand like, hey, this run game is only better for me, brother. Like this is because now everything is here and we're getting ones on the outside. Which leads to AQ's questions because they thought we were a question. We thought there was going to be a ground and pound kind of resurgence in this all. And stats aren't saying that's case. Aq you.

[F]

No, we talked about it earlier, Dan. We saw that run game is down this year. And the question that I have for you, are you seeing anything specific on tape or is it a combination of things that you see from defenses?

[G]

Yes, you.

[A]

So.

[D]

Yes.

[G]

Dang it. I'm in a tough spot right now, aq, because I like to figure stuff out and hold it. So I would tell you this. I think that there's going on.

[B]

You're a loser.

[A]

I think people didn't see you because the stat was on the full screen. Dan had a. On his back screen as AQ was saying that he had a full look like daughter. My daughter did one of these because say this first. Yes.

[G]

That's.

[A]

That's.

[G]

That's. That's my win. Like that's our wins. That's the competitiveness. So let me answer it.

[A]

Okay.

[G]

I think there I would tell you I think some of the things that are attached to the run game being down are. I don't think that we have a ton of backs right now with great vision in the league. I think that there's backs that are missing holes at times with. And I don't know if this is because gun run track is different than under center run Track and the way that back sees it, the spacing and timing behind some offensive linemen, I think some of the teams that we've seen very, be very successful over the past couple years in the NFL are dealing with that right now with just a lack of kind of that necessary vision from their backs. So that's part of it. I also think, and I sent a tweet out AQ the other day is like there's a lot of commonalities between the offenses that are performing well and a lot of commonalities between the offenses that are struggling. I think one of the things that is a standout in the NFL for two weeks is. And I'm getting ahead of it right.

[A]

Now, getting ahead of it because I.

[G]

Don'T want anyone else to think of it too late.

[A]

No, no. Aq. She got his multiples. What is yours? Shout out to Dr. Pepper. By the way, the official drink.

[B]

Love you, Doc.

[G]

Listen, we've, we've talked about for a couple years now quarterbacks underneath the center. I think that's a commonality between the offenses through two weeks that have played well. I think the offenses that are being aggressive on first down and play action. Aggressive on first down, play action. Not just drop back play action. Those are the offenses that are performing well. And I think the teams that are willing to play with two or more, two or more tight ends on the field on early downs are the teams offensively that are performing well.

[A]

Wait to get ahead of that one. That one's yours. That's dan. Roll off. TM.

[B]

TM.

[A]

I need 12 personal personnel says Dan L. Here in 2025. I need at least, I need. Yeah, I need at least two tight ends on the field. I need people going to center. Rich Rodriguez heard you loud and clear. I don't know if he stole it from you, but I am appreciative that you thought of that ahead of time. I can't wait to see your full report on that. You're the man, Dano. Oh, we end eating. Of course. Yeah, go ahead and get you. You've earned that snack, I think.

[D]

Well, why are you always farting on tv, huh?

[A]

Yeah. Just can't stop feeding the gullet. So that means it's coming out of the ass at some point. Point. Go ahead and get the microphone there. Great work on Monday night. No farts. Also thought you did a great job. I didn't stay up for it, but I, I heard it was awesome. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. Heard the highlights. Dan was great.

[C]

He was awesome.

[B]

He was great. And he also doubled down on Senna.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

John Senna.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

He's.

[C]

He's got that really stole the show. I'll be honest, I don't remember much from their calling of the game other than Fowler calling John Cena.

[A]

John Senna and what he said. John Cena takes on Brock Lesnar this week. Yeah.

[C]

Big main event at Russell Palooza next Saturday as John Cena takes heavy news. Who's an all timer.

[A]

He had Fowler so locked in on everything he had to know.

[E]

He tripled.

[A]

He tripled down on it. Said it three times in a row. Maybe he's one of those guys not happy WWE could be.

[B]

Yeah. And Riddick did this thing too. He kept doing that.

[A]

Was just with that being said this weekend, Wrestle Palooza.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Espn. John Santa, Brock Lesnar. Yeah. It's about to be a huge night. We can't wait to watch it here in Indianapolis.

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[D]

So add 2 bad cuz it was just we'll see them but they I think we all if we watched Sunday football red zone anything, you definitely at least saw one of the bad Chicago.

[B]

Come on bear d bear.

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12 year NFL veteran and super bowl champion player. Coach Jackie Moonstyle for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers AQ Shipley Q. How you doing Akyush?

[F]

Fantastic.

[A]

A lot of Tampa Bay Buccaneer representation on this program. Okay. Good team it is. They are a good team. Baker Mayfield's a dog.

[C]

Yes, he is.

[A]

But I'm just saying a lot of people that I know from the football world ended up down there in Tampa Bay. And if we would have been worse with our Covid, I'd be Super bowl champion.

[C]

You have super bowl, right?

[A]

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay, we'll get into that with BA someday. We're too good. I didn't have the antibodies because I didn't have to.

[F]

Thought you were coming.

[A]

Beat Covid kicker punter for you guys suck up and pinion right? Yeah.

[F]

And the long snapper all the whole.

[A]

Operation was down go down go down with COVID They think it was a failed test. Goes down in that world or at that time if you had the antibodies tested for the antibodies means you already had Covid, you had the antibodies, which at that time, I think a lot of people thought if you're vaccinated and you have the antibodies, you won't be able to get. Well, a lot of people thought if you were just vaccinated, but the antibodies too in there. So the NFL's rules were. I think it was like seven days. You had to be in a hotel if you didn't have the antibodies and you were coming down there before you could join the team. And no team had a kicker and a punter on the practice squad who had already passed through the coach. But if you had the antibodies, I think it was only like two days or something like that. Yes, two and a half days or something. So you guys, kicker and punter goes down. I'm already retired. I get a call, hey, do you have the antibodies? We might need you to kick and punt this weekend. I was retired. Never kicked in the NFL. Pretty good kicker. Not the greatest, but pretty good kicker and hadn't punted in a while. But if I got the antibodies, I'm joined Tom Brady and Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Let me go get a test.

[C]

Sign me up.

[A]

Let me go get a test. Right now I remember. I think it was blood. It was.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Finger prick.

[A]

I had to prick my finger. Couldn't get blood out of my finger for a while. Which may be more alarming than any of the other.

[C]

You did like eight of the tests.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Through the whole thing. Put it down there. Now we wait. Am I gonna be teammate Tom Brady or not? And it comes back, no antibodies. So I didn't have covered yet.

[B]

I think they didn't punt that game. Yeah, I thought you. You guys.

[A]

I think they both got back.

[C]

Yeah, they both cleared protocols. You would have been able to just stand on the sidelines some sweet.

[A]

Sweet. I would have got sweet Tampa Buccaneer and. And knowing everybody, I would have been a part of the boat, the whole thing. Awesome. We did covet too good. Yeah.

[D]

People won't.

[A]

Nobody will talk about that enough. That was late in the season.

[C]

It was. It was unseasonably cold. I think that's why it was a little tougher for the blood to come out. Cuz, you know, you're a little bit cold.

[A]

It was unseasonably.

[C]

It was.

[A]

That was a long time into the.

[B]

COVID It was a long time ago. It feels like.

[A]

Oh, but it's not. We need to remember it, you know, as we go forward. Let's go to Hammer Don Don AP Tones over There, Tone. I do remember taking eight of those tests, just hoping that one of them would tell me I had the antibodies. All of them came back negative. Week two gambling. We talked a little bit about it yesterday. Anything you're looking at for Hammer today that we maybe need to keep an eye on whenever it comes to the gambling world? Yeah.

[C]

I'll never forget you sitting at that picnic table taking like eight tests, trying to get blood out all the time. Just this absolute all time.

[A]

What about to be team at Tom Brady, boys. Okay, I. I know we got a little thing going on here. Show's going to have to wait about seven days. So I got to go do something I've never done before in the NFL for a team after I've been retired and also go punt and to be Tom Brady's teammate instead. Too good. They both come back. I would have had to do nothing but congrats to you guys winning that Super Bowl. Happy for you. I would let you know as you were doing it all, I was super happy for you. I was very. I was very pumped about it. I. I was very, very pumped for you. Always will be. Beautiful ring you got.

[F]

I was hoping you were coming down. We were talking that whole week.

[A]

It was so positive. Everything was so positive except for the antibodies test.

[F]

But to your point, originally negative.

[A]

Go ahead. I think the story this week is.

[B]

Is literally the backup quarterbacks.

[A]

We could have potentially five backup quarterbacks playing.

[C]

So, you know, you got to kind of look at those games. There's two of them in one game.

[A]

The Vikings and the Bengals play each.

[B]

Other this week and you kind of.

[A]

You got to look and see like.

[C]

Which ones you trust and which ones you don't and kind of try to find an edge in that situation. I mean, both of those quarterbacks have played a ton. Those backup quarters, Bengals and Vikings in.

[A]

That game have played a ton.

[C]

And like Mariota and the Raiders, like.

[A]

What'S going to happen there? If that's the situation, I would take a look at the backup quarterbacks this is this week and see if you.

[C]

Can find any edges there.

[A]

Okay. I like that sportsbooks don't really know what's coming with the backup quarterbacks. Joining us now is a man who's alive and an attic in Ohio. He's a college football national champion, super bowl champion Roger cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Hawker. Good to see you, Hawker. Thank you for joining us today. I know you have busy schedules, so make it time for us is good news. Five backup quarterbacks already getting playing time, getting Some rub. How do you feel about that? That seems like it might be a long year if we're already this early into this trend.

[H]

Yeah, it does seem early, but don't we talk about this every year? We think, hey, if you don't have a good veteran backup QB or a guy that you feel like is an up and comer, like, it's worth paying a dude to have somebody back there that can. Can right the ship if you need a guy 3, 4, 5, 6 games or something, it's a. It's a huge deal, I think. I honestly, I think Jake Browning, I think the guy's pretty legit. People sleep on him a little bit. He's not Joe Burrow, but nobody else is. So I think the Bengals might be all right.

[A]

I think Jake Browning has proven that he can be all right. He's got a lot of moxie, obviously, a lot of athleticism. We respect the hell out of him, has got a chance to play in the past, so he understands the moment, what he's stepping into. You talk about having a good backup and a veteran backup. Whenever we were with the Colts, when they drafted Andrew Luck, they brought in Matt Hasselbeck. Matt Hasselbeck was a starter for the Tennessee Titans. Before that. He talked about how he had to come to the realization, like, I'm at the backup quarterback stage of my career. I'm gonna go in there, be a veteran. I'm gonna try to be everything that I would have wanted in a backup quarterback when I'm in there. And we had to rely on Matt Hasselbeck a lot as Andrew Luck was getting injured. Now you're talking about a lot of places paying backups, a little bit more money, and we go to Atlanta, Michael Pennock's going to be the starter. You guys trading, you got to trade Kirk Cousins. Like, we're not. I mean, if we get the right offer, maybe they didn't never said they were fielding offers, but I assume if the right offer came, they would have certainly said yes. But on a side note, they're like, we're okay with having Kirk Cousins as our backup quarterback as well down there in Atlanta. It is something you need, especially this year.

[D]

It looks like it's huge, not only for when the guy actually have to go in and play, which is out, obviously, most important, but even throughout the week when you're getting the defense ready to play like that, though I'm going against Matt every week. That made me much better going into the week. We're playing, you know, Peyton Manning on Sunday Night Football, I got Matt Hasselbeck and Griff Whalen and slot being west worker like that, that's a great look. You know, Monday through Thursday, whatever the practice up until Friday. So getting that defense ready to play them bending the building. So yeah, you got to have like, I'm sure the Niners right now, they got having Mac Jones in the building making that signing like that's huge for however long he has to play. Just a guy that can just be 500. Just keep this ship afloat until your big money quarterback comes back.

[B]

And even thinking about that, Minnesota, I, I bet they're thinking the same thing with Carson Wentz. Like Carson Wentz at one point was playing MVP football. And so far, from what we've seen, every quarterback that has gone to Minnesota, except for JJ. Except for JJ yeah. With prior experience, seven quarters. Yeah. Under Koc, they put. They've played well. So like Carson Wentz, 32, you know, he.

[A]

Why not?

[B]

He goes out, plays well.

[C]

He.

[B]

He could get, you know, a couple, you know, gap years, if you will, for some of these young quarterbacks coming in.

[A]

Ari Miroff stat, in fact of the Internet, which is something no QB in the NFL history has ever done. And that would be start for six teams over six seasons. What? Ty, wow. Wow.

[C]

I mean, yeah, we can do this with, with Carson Wentz if we want.

[A]

I'm.

[B]

I'm.

[C]

I'm done. Okay. I.

[A]

What do you do?

[C]

I wish no ill will. I hope he plays well on Sunday, I really do.

[A]

But just because he's in the NFC.

[C]

North, because let's not do the. Hey, we could be looking at Carson Wentz, you know, throwing eight touchdowns over the next few weeks. He might get $100 million for somebody next year to play quarterback. No, he's not. Okay. No, he's not. It's not happening. So we can just end that right here. And this is no slight to KOC because obviously everyone who goes in there is great. But we'll see if KOC can coach out the urge to just get him to throw so far as I can. There's eight guys down there on the defense. I'll throw it as far as I can. Might throw a 90 yard touchdown right here. Be the number one play on Sports center top 10. I'm done with it. I'm done with it. And on the same token, I cannot wait to watch on Sunday. And that's kind of the Carson Wentz experience.

[A]

That is right there. That is all of it right there. We lived it, brother. Yeah, I mean, we lived it over here. I was so excited once I met him. He walked into our office downtown.

[C]

He's so big.

[A]

Gigantic human being. He's so big. And then you see him move. He's so athletic. And then you hear the way he talks. Just love ball. Just loves ball. Just wants to do his thing. And then you watch him play and it's like, how have his parents survived watching their boy play the cardiac. Ness of me, he's not relation. I just met this guy. Okay. I know. I'm watching him play football. In every play, it's like, ah, okay, okay. Oh, yes, that's my guy. Or, oh, why would you. Why did you shot put the ball with your left hand in your own end zone in the fourth quarter against a division rival. You have to win into the sky for the shortest pick six in the history of football. Yep. Okay. I think that is an actual stat.

[B]

Yes, it is.

[A]

And then the next play, the next, they kick off. Sorry, extra point kicked. Then they kick off. Touch back. Then we get the ball back. Carson Wentz wiggling, moving, takes ball, balances with it on the ground. On the ground, Balances. Stands up, sees triple coverage. Might Michael Pittman. Give me that. Yeah, Michael Pittman through the three dudes, catches it, comes out. It's like, what a ball. That is. Literally, that is the Carson Wentz experience that I remember. And then you can add on Aaron Donald in the Rams where he thought he was going to break free from free Aaron Donald grabbing him and then him trying to shimmy out. So of Aaron Donald for me, get both feet. Sprained both his ankles on one play. One play.

[B]

I. I don't know the goat.

[A]

If anybody's ever done that.

[H]

It's a risk reward. The risk reward, man.

[D]

He's all about it.

[A]

Loves ball.

[C]

He does.

[A]

Cannot. And that's why, like, Ty. I think Ty knew that I was going to get into this, which is why he did that entire thing. If KOC can get all the good. Oh, and you're talking about with that Minnesota fan base and the whole thing. Oh, you're talking about electrifying. Justin Jefferson's the guy down there now. Yeah.

[B]

Real word.

[A]

When's Addison coming back?

[B]

After this week. So three weeks for Ireland.

[C]

He'll be back for Ireland versus Steelers, of course.

[B]

But he can't.

[A]

Oh, think about Carson in Ireland. Carson's playing in Ireland. The country of Ireland.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

They're going to win by 30.

[A]

Oh, my God. International Carson Wentz experience.

[C]

Two weeks easy. Ireland and then London the next week.

[A]

He's going On a Europe tour. He's got a European leg of the Carson Wentz experience.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

I talk about growing the game. People are going to see him play for the first time, be like, this is what I'm talking about, lad.

[A]

Why is the sport not more like this one?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now, granted, we have no idea what he's going to look like this year. Okay. KOC people look different in that offense. They look better. They look good. They look their best. I get it. I understand that. But if Koch with maybe let Carson cook a little bit and let a little bit of that experience out, it's good for the game globally. Just talked about it. But also, there's a chance with that offense, with the amount of weapons they have, a lot of people getting open, there's a chance he goes for eight touchdowns.

[B]

Yeah.

[H]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Over the next couple weeks, one game. Okay. One game over there. And there's a chance this goes horrendously. Okay. There. There is both sides of the coin here. Yeah. But with what JJ started in that one fourth quarter, I think every Minnesota Vikings fan is understanding, like Carson, we just need to kind of get through the game, just take the snap, kind of do the thing. I don't know if Carson ever has heard that in his entire life of playing football, but I think they're very excited to kind of see what this team can become. And it's just like a little bit of versus a little bit of versa kind of stumbling out of the gates here. The J.J. mcCarthy era. And then you get the Carson Wentz experience thrown right in from the side. This could be exhilarating for this Vikings. This could be exactly what the doctor ordered for this Minnesota Viking.

[B]

Kingston, there's a chance he can play so well in Ireland and England that after he plays there, London does decide. You know what? It's time. Let's build a NFL stadium. And we want Carson Wentz to be the franchise quarterback of the London Big Ben Towers or Clock Tower or whatever team they're going to end up putting there.

[A]

Carson might become a knight. Dan and Boom. Good. I mean, we honestly don't know what we're about to see out there.

[F]

Aaron Jones is out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Also just a drop out of the clouds there. Hey.

[F]

I mean, he lost his running back. He doesn't have one of his receivers. This isn't exactly what you want for your first start.

[A]

This is CWE.

[D]

It can't look much worse than J.J. mcCarthy outside of that fourth quarter, seven.

[C]

Quarters, NFC Player of the week, offensive player, of course.

[B]

Son of a.

[A]

Joining Us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is an AFC Defensive Player of the Week 72 times throughout his career.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

This guy is once a Walt's Pate man of the year. He's been an MVP four different times. Wow. This guy is hockey sticks for golf clubs. Because he's abnormally tall, he's very strong, explosive, and he owns two soccer teams. Ladies and gentlemen, a future first ballot hall of Famer in the NFL, J.J. watt. Yeah, J.J. in the morning, we drink coffee. In the afternoon, it's rum. And then we play soccer and we win. Everyone were Espanol. Espanol. Oh, looky, looky. Another goal. Okay. I like it. I like what we're doing here.

[E]

They're gonna sing that. They're gonna sing that this week. No question about it.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

What a song.

[A]

I don't know if their English is great, but we're number three in La Liga. Let's go, dude. Let's go, jj.

[D]

Never doubt.

[E]

Wild match this week. Wild match.

[A]

Had it all.

[E]

Red cards, penalties. Just crazy. But, yeah, we pulled out the win in the cauldron of chaos. Sitting in third. We got Real Madrid this Saturday.

[A]

I don't know if I love that. Should we be dancing with Real Madrid in Barcelona at this stage, or do we need to still maybe sharpen the iron before we run into the top of the table? Or do we feel like we are the top of the table right now?

[E]

I mean, you got to play them all twice anyway, brother. Let's do it. Let's rumble.

[A]

Are you guys the team that's getting scrappy and getting the red cards, or are you guys the other team doing that?

[E]

This wasn't even scrappy. It was a. It was a word to the official.

[A]

Word up.

[E]

Don't know if it was worthy of a red card. Little. Little questionable, but they knew what words.

[H]

Give you red cards? Is there a rule? Like, he's in a rule book somewhere.

[A]

They write them out, you know, that's a.

[E]

That's a question that I honestly don't know the answer to.

[A]

Well, this should be. This is you protesting the red card. Because if it's not listed out, how are we ever supposed to know? Because the line is only considered a line depending upon who judges what the line is. That's always, like, the fighting press conferences where, like, cross the line. The person's like, says who? They can cross the line with me. I want the line where it's supposed to be. You ask cj, GJ what the line is, and then you ask some other people What? The line is going to have different lines, so they should have that. A rule book, I think. Espanol. It's got a case here some people don't have.

[E]

We came back, don't worry. We got resilience, we got heart, we got desire, we got grit, and we got a whole lot of pericos going crazy in the stands.

[A]

What word do you think it was, though, if you had to guess? That's a good question, right, aj? If we had JJ just try to guess and maybe say these words right now.

[E]

See what. See what gets you banned off of ESPN or.

[A]

Don't worry. Well, you'll get muted on here. The. The. The digital one. TikTok. Probably kick us off pretty quick if I had to get. Yeah, that's the one. They drop us every day somehow. I don't know. It's a. We're appreciative shout out to the new ownership.

[C]

Shout out.

[A]

It's not getting banned, but they'll drop us quickly. YouTube, I've heard others get dropped pretty quickly. I don't think it's really happened to us, although we have been buried a couple different times for really unknown reasons. Yeah, unknown reasons. You shadow band just kind of disappear. But that didn't happen. But it definitely did, though. No, it didn't. Okay. We keep it moving forward. We're very appreciative of all them. I'm excited to hear what the word is once you finally say it. No.

[H]

Do you know it?

[A]

He definitely knows it.

[H]

He knows what?

[E]

Yeah, yeah, no, I know it. I'm not gonna rhyme with.

[H]

Can you say what it rhymes with? Maybe.

[B]

Was it one of the robot ones?

[E]

No, he's. He's one of our. It was. The guy's playing the lights out and it's pretty awesome. But no, he. He got himself a red card. Not ideal. We came back, nobody.

[A]

What is he saying? Talking about the ref, the atmosphere, somebody on the other team.

[B]

Someone's family member on the other team.

[A]

Yeah, maybe the officiating.

[E]

No, the officiating.

[A]

Officiating. Oh, he said the officiating was absolutely. It's.

[E]

Yeah, it was. It wasn't to his liking. It wasn't to his liking.

[C]

He brought red card for sad.

[A]

It's not to his liking. Probably in Spanish. It sounds.

[E]

There's ways you can say it does.

[C]

Happen in La Liga more than any other league, because it did happen at.

[A]

The game I was at in Mallorca.

[C]

There was a red card for the same thing.

[A]

Oh, the refs aren't taking any shots.

[D]

Do we Have a picture of the ref.

[A]

Yeah, the refs aren't taking any gruff, are they? No gruff. No gruff from those La Liga. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, it sounds like the La Liga refs stink. And the fact that it's 120 on a Wednesday and we're talking about soccer fucking sucks, dude. Can we just talk about football?

[A]

All right, let's do football Espanol, though. They're top three in the street. Try. He said. He says to the referee, you're awful, aj. Why would. Or jj. Why wouldn't you say that? What's. Come on.

[E]

I mean, I think there was. I mean, I don't know if that translates directly.

[A]

Oh, there was a. A slur maybe mixed in. No, no, no, no, no, no.

[D]

All right, let's go to.

[A]

Let's go to football Espanol. Boys are mixing in a little sauce with them Espanol. Polo table.

[E]

Just put the table back up. See where we're at. Actually tied for second with Barcelona.

[A]

You have to love that your guys are going after the refs, though. I. I know that is something that you love and. Oh, absolutely, yeah. We're not promoting it. Obviously not promoting it, but these refs.

[B]

Need it right post retirement. Still still kept doing it.

[A]

Yeah. Refs need to get it right. You're very important. You get paid. You're a professional. We appreciate you doing what you're doing, but also get it right. Okay, let's talk a bit little of football. You got a chance. Call game this past weekend. How'd it go? How'd you feel? Saw you sitting down. That was. That was clever. That was cheap.

[D]

This is.

[E]

Was funny. Even my wife thought I was sitting down. I was kneeling because we were trying to make it a bit like we. We're doing it one time.

[A]

We were.

[E]

We said one time we'll play into it and then we're done for the year.

[A]

So the national anthem's playing right now. And you said, you know what? Is that how we got to this?

[D]

This is.

[E]

I mean, you're just in it today. You're just in your bag. You're just in your bag digging deep.

[A]

I'm sorry, that was rude. You did not deserve that. But I did like that this was happening. I appreciated you guys both acknowledging it. How did it come together in the moment? Or was this pre rehearsed? And will you do this for the rest of the year to make your partner feel more comfortable in the booth?

[E]

Nah. So we. We saw the reactions week one, which was completely unplanned on anything. We didn't know it was going to even gonna. I didn't even know it was that big of a difference in our heights from week one, but obviously the Internet took it and ran with it. So then we said, all right, we have to acknowledge it in week two because of how big it was. So he's on two boxes there. I'm on my knees, and we said, we'll let it die after week two. So that was our. That was our shot at it, and now we're done.

[A]

Very active booth. Go ahead, A.J.

[H]

J.J. To pivot off of the booth there. Ben Johnson, Dan Campbell. It seems like they got some real heat there. I don't know if you've seen any of these clips from people. Like, in the stands. They're showing their little. Their little greeting after the game. Have you ever seen anything like this where an offensive coordinator leaves, obviously, in the division team rival? Like, it seems like these players are actually really upset, the Detroit players and coaches at. Ben Johnson. Do you think that's real?

[E]

Do we have the clip? Because I've seen, like, a couple little handshakes here.

[H]

That's not bad. I'm not saying they kill each other. I'm saying, to me, Ben Johnson walking off the field and not going and seeing a lot of his Detroit players. I understand he lost the game, but Carson. Or you see Jared Goff comes over and finds. But he doesn't. You know, he knows everybody over there. I'm just thinking, yeah, I guess it's a loss. You're dejected, you want to get off the field. But he still knows a lot of these guys.

[E]

Great.

[A]

That's a.

[E]

That's a great part of it. I think that part's better. The way that he handled golf there and the way that he handled, you know, some of the other guys. I'm with you. I do think that just like the human. And you sees people that you just spent a few years with and. And some real. Like, I think you give those hugs and maybe he did it back. We don't know. Maybe he did it afterwards out of the locker room. He went to the family area and said hi to everybody. So I don't want to stand on that and say something. And then he comes out and is like, no, I saw every one of them. But seeing that on the field and just kind of knowing how you handle it after a game, I do think that there's clearly a little something there. I mean, there's. He's pissed.

[A]

They lost.

[E]

There's no doubt. And they didn't exactly lose in Like a close game where it was down to the wire. They got. They got it handed to him a little bit. So he's a competitor. He's frustrated. But that's a quick handshake that, like the quarterback that you were in the room with for the past couple years and the guy that, like, worked hand in hand with. That's a very quick.

[A]

They definitely still talk. Mcdc right here just kicked your ass, man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Got out of there. Now we don't know what he said. I'll talk to you in the background. I'll talk to you later, man. Or how's that feel, bitch? And then kind of walk out. There's a lot of different things that could be. And maybe he did say that final one, which is why Ben Johnson was like, I don't like this.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And was pouting off quick with the Jared Goff conversation. But also, I assume him and Jared still talk. I assume they still text with each other. I assume there was a plan. Some of the players came out saying they didn't like it.

[E]

Jared Goff, I mean, there's. There's zero eye contact there. He doesn't. He literally doesn't turn his head.

[A]

Well, they say Ben Johnson's one of the most intense guys. Got their asses beat. I think everybody's like, stay out of the Ben Johnson storm. I think we all understand what's happening here. That might be the case. Or follow up. They actually do hate this guy for going to the Chicago Bears. And is that kind of how the Ohio State, Michigan thing started?

[H]

What do you mean?

[A]

Didn't one coach go to Michigan from Ohio State or something like that and turn it into the big thing? Wasn't that, like the. The history of.

[C]

Of Woody or something?

[D]

Woody.

[H]

Woody wasn't. Woody didn't go over there. Coaches have. I mean, running back coaches over there.

[A]

Now, from what I remember, I think there was. There was. I think there was some sort of.

[B]

Flip, like, kind of like Yankees, Red Sox and Babe Ruth.

[A]

No. Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. Is that what happened?

[B]

Yeah, he would. From the Red Sox to the Yankees.

[H]

Woody Hayes and Bo Schambeckler both coached at Miami of Ohio.

[A]

Okay.

[H]

So I think that may have been.

[C]

The origin story of their personal hatred with one another.

[A]

Did they? Yeah. So those two are the reason that made the Michigan, Ohio State game. Right.

[B]

And then Woody goes to Ohio State.

[E]

I feel like this should be a class at Ohio State. I feel like A.J. you should have some insight here.

[A]

I agree. So I'm just. The re. The fact that AJ did not have the answer. There was a shocker to me.

[H]

That wasn't an answer.

[A]

There wasn't.

[H]

It's a big game because it's a big game. And Bo and Woody elevated the game to where it is right now. That's what it is.

[A]

So Bow and Woody information, that would have been a great answer right there. But Bowen, Woody, I think work together and then they went through separate ways and then turned into massive.

[H]

Two good coaches coached two good teams for many years and it was a great rivalry and that's why it continues to be a great rivalry. So yes, thanks to Woody and Bo.

[A]

How many did what was Bear Bryant's coach intrigued? Bruce Aaron?

[C]

Was it 47 or 67 head coaches?

[A]

47 head coaches or something came through the Bear Bryant system down there in Alabama and everything like that. There's going to be beef amongst them, you know, and if Ben Johnson and mcdc, the Bears and alliance have some sort of beef just because of this move here, I think we would all love that football fans would enjoy a Lions Bears beef, I think so. I will say after the game, golf defended Ben Johnson because there were Ben Johnson chants within the stadium and golf said, I didn't like that. I didn't like that at all. Ben did a lot for us here. So I didn't like that they did that. So I personally watched this video and thought it was nothing. Ben Johnson just got his ass ass kicked 50 burger on him and I think he was trying to get the hell out of there. I know what fans are going to.

[E]

Do and people are going to say.

[A]

But yeah, I mean I just thought nothing of this whole thing.

[E]

And if Foxy, I'm trying to remember was there like am I misremembering? Is there. Was there something that went down like. Like he was the number one candidate, didn't he a year before or with the Commanders or something, spurn them and stay with the Lions?

[A]

Yes, he essentially stayed an extra year from what we all thought. They gave him a little bit more money and they were like, hey, we're going all in. We're going to try to win a Super Bowl. And we all knew he was leaving after last season, but it was because he went to the Bears that fans were not happy. I don't know about the players. Brian Branch was kind of mad after the game about it all, but from my perspective, the handshakes were pretty much not. I thought so too, but. But the re you said he spurred spurned the commanders, went back to Detroit. That's What Lions fans are saying in the though, yeah, you could have won anywhere and you chose to go to NFC north. You decided to stay Indian. That's what the fans are saying.

[E]

Didn't he get like 13 million or something from him?

[A]

Like.

[C]

Oh yeah, they don't give a.

[B]

That doesn't matter. J.J. remember?

[E]

But that's like saying a player. So a player can never ever go within your division if they. If that's where.

[A]

Dude, the Patriots fans, Tom Brady went down to Tampa. Do you remember?

[E]

Oh, did he? Okay, jhope, listen, now's not shocking to me.

[A]

I'm trying to make a good point.

[E]

Weren't you going to go to Tampa? From what I heard, that was so close.

[A]

If I would have just sucked face with somebody, if I would just look at somebody that had Covid. But whenever Tom went down to Tampa, I mean there was like two teams. It was like Belichick or Tom and everybody just joined Belichick and look at all the things that Tom did for New England. And it was like, you know, we don't want them. Not everyone.

[B]

I think, I think you worked with one. But I think it was, it was. It was very much 50, 50 at the beginning, at the be at the beginning. It was very much like a line in the sand. And then once Bill started to lose after Mac Jones's rookie year, that's when it really became like, you know what? Never mind. We love Tom.

[A]

No, I'm saying though. But we're still in the beginning stages. We're at week two of Ben Johnson being.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You know what I mean? Like there, there is like how mad would Bears fans be if he was all lovey dovey, dapping every single player up and you just got 52 points scored on. I can't be set down here for all Chicago.

[B]

Well, and imagine too if their offense, if the Lions offense just like sputters a couple more times here in. In the first quarter of the season, they'll probably, you know, change their tune too and be like, never mind Ben Jones. It's awesome. Goski sucks without him.

[A]

Okay, well, I can't wait to see if the Lions are still the brand new Lions after one week of dominance and Ben Johnson and Lions Lions hating each other. Good for ball. But I don't think it's possible. I don't think it's real. I don't think it's a real thing.

[C]

Keep drumming it up like it is a real.

[A]

Yeah, it is fun. Oh, that's a Lions fan saying it is fun. And that's a Packers fan saying, yeah, I love it.

[C]

I love it. I. I mean, we don't have enough.

[A]

Of it in the league anymore.

[E]

There's a lot less of that.

[C]

I agree.

[E]

Legitimate anger. And so even if it's not real, I agree. It is fun to consider it because the old days there was that real, real hate.

[A]

How do you feel about the Vikings?

[E]

In what capacity?

[A]

Carson Wentz, brother, Come on. You know what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the.

[E]

I heard the Ireland talk. I mean, it fits, right? Gonna. He's gonna be walking around town. People are gonna be like, yeah, just another guy. He's one of us.

[A]

No, he's six foot six. He's walking. They're gonna say, this is a super version of us walking around here. Obviously this is the side that we are going to be on. The Carson once experience definitely successful with the Minnesota Vikings because KOC is getting a veteran quarterback and that seems to be the M.O. or maybe J.J. mcCarthy wasn't playing great because the whole offense wasn't playing great. Is that possible a situation?

[E]

I mean, I agree with AQ and the fact that he's stepping into a tough situation without Aaron Jones, without Jordan Addison. It's not exactly what you're ideally drawn up, but AOC is a great coach. Like you said, Carson's a competitor. I'm interested to see what he looks like. I haven't seen him in a few, few, few years. Right. So I'm very much looking forward to seeing how he's out there. You never know. Those guys get a second third chance and all of a sudden.

[A]

You ever sprained both ankles of a quarterback before in one play? No, but I did.

[E]

When you said that, it really. It's triggered something in my head. I had a teammate who tore both quads on the same play.

[A]

Oh gosh. That would suck so bad. Oh my. Think about that. I don't want to.

[D]

How does that. How.

[B]

Jumping into a ring maybe. I don't know.

[E]

It was the worst.

[A]

Well, something happened in the Royal Rumble. Yeah. So there was a full situation. Yeah. All right, let's move along. Let's move along. Excited for the Carson ones experience. Also, this Tom Brady as an owner thing has certainly drawn some conversations that I assume you have delve into. Go ahead. Debut.

[D]

Yeah. I would assume you have a unique perspective. I asked you about Travis Hunter a couple weeks ago which I have different thoughts on that because of your perspective. And now being a team owner obviously in a different sport and been in the booth. How do you feel about Tom Brady's, I guess, conflict of interest. Now that, you know, it was a big story last week when he was in the Vegas booth. What do you, what's your thoughts on that as an announcer and as eight owner?

[E]

Yeah, it's, it's, it's an interesting conversation because, because people think that you have all this inside access, which they've kind of stripped most of it away. Obviously, the one thing he is able to do is attend Zoom production meetings. So then you think, okay, well, he has inside information from these Zoom production meetings. Truth of the matter is the team can choose to give you as much or as little information as they want to give you in those meetings. And now, yes, his crew and his other people on the broadcast team can go to practice and if they wanted to, they could share things with him from practice. That is, that is legit. That's their ethical decision between them if they're, if they do that or not. But in the actual production meetings, I mean, I've faced it myself. I mean, you've got this week, I'm calling the Steelers Patriots. Week one. I called the Jets Steelers. I think that there might be a little more guardedness there, knowing that my brother's on the team. Not that I'm going to tell him anything. Not that I'm going to give away anything, but okay, different weeks and different teams are definitely giving you different information depending on what's there.

[A]

Yeah. Definitely not telling JJ Watt shit about what TJ Watt is going to be facing. Especially when we see them shirtless on golf courses, training all off.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

We see their kids all hanging out. Of course, you're not going to give them a heads up. Hey, who's starting at center for you guys? Wouldn't you like to know? Oh, I'm sorry. Wouldn't your brother like to know? So he get his attack. So I could see how that would happen to you on a very regular basis. Actually. Two Steelers games, first three weeks. How do you feel about that? And also how do you feel about the game? Steelers Patriots.

[E]

I like, I'm obviously I, I, I look forward to being able to watch my brother because it was really interesting this past week. I didn't get to see a single snap at the game. Obviously I'm calling, calling my game, so it is nice, but I enjoy it. I think it's going to be a good matchup. The Patriots played well last week against the Dolphins. A little bit of a back and forth wild one. The Steelers obviously weren't able to keep the success going from week one. So this should, this should be a good matchup here, which I'm looking forward to. But I, I really, I do enjoy it. I do try to be extremely non committal on either side when I'm calling his games because I know exactly what people think and how it looks. So I hope the Patriot fans find it the same as jets fans, fans did in week one that I'm calling it straight down the middle and just giving my honest thoughts.

[A]

Journalistic ethics.

[D]

Yeah, damn right.

[A]

I respect that.

[B]

Yeah, we'll see.

[E]

I mean, I saw Dan Orlovsky earlier today. He kept it in the bag and then he let out that big reveal that teams are running under center and having success. I mean, we had a full conversation about it on our game because the Rams were. I've had a lot of success under center, so thank. Thankfully you retroactive actively told me that a week ago so I could look, you know, look like a genius.

[A]

Oh, no. So that's not even Daniel's either. Oh, no. Dano. Need a new one. Dano, throw it out. Can't win with it. Let's follow up with more about the Steelers. We head over to Hammer.

[C]

Yeah. Jj, I'm not sure if you saw, you know, where else teams are having.

[A]

Success running away from tj. Six yards of carry going away from tj. Two and a half going towards him. And if I see one more. If I see them get gashed one.

[C]

More time away from him, I'm gonna lose my. Oh, they were also supposed to move.

[F]

Him around the line of scrimmage.

[A]

Nope. He's been over at his normal position every snap. What's going on, jj? Okay. All right.

[E]

Brian Kelly, calm down. Oh, I saw, I saw Dan put this out and, and I was honestly glad he put it out because I didn't want to be the one to bring it up on game day and have people say, oh, yeah, of course you're going to bring that stat up. It's your brother. This has been happening. This is a very legit. And if you turn on the tape, it is extremely evident to see what's happening. The ball is running away from him almost every single time, and they're having significantly more success over that way as opposed to when they run towards him. So it's an issue and it's something that. That you have to recognize and you have to try and combat. Whether it's shifting fronts, moving guys, stunting. I mean, it's a. The initial answer you want to say is, well, yeah, in the run game, flip them to the other side. Well, offenses have alerts, they have checks. They'll just flip the plate to the other side. That's kind of how it goes. So you do have to just also be better. And their run defense in general, whether it's left or right, just in general needs to get better. They know that. They've talked about it. And it doesn't help when you've got guys down. Derek Harmon, Loudermilk. So they need to stop that run quickly. But yeah, these are the type of charts you see every week.

[A]

Okay, so is that. Why would. Is it because TJ is such a good run stopper that they don't want to run towards him? And also, by the way, I don't think that gets talked about a lot with guys that get to the quarterback a lot. So this seems like a massive compliment to your brother in his ability to play all three downs, brother, all four downs if needed. But what is it? Is it scheme? Is it strategy? Is it humans? What is kind of of the way you answer this? And also on Tone's follow up question, there was a conversation about him playing different positions. And we know checks, but is that still a thing? Did he prepare for that and what are your thoughts on what that would add to a Steelers defense?

[E]

Yeah, I mean, for your first question, if you're having success doing something, you're seeing other teams have success doing something, why would you go the other direction? Like if you're having all those long green lines run to the left? Well, I'd probably keep doing that until it wasn't successful. And then there is the fact that he is extremely good against the run. It's something that he's done very well, something he prides himself on. So you can watch it on the film. It's standing guys up at the line of scrimmage, it's setting an edge and it's turning the ball back inside or it's making the TFL himself. And then when it comes to moving around in either the run or the pass game, it's one of those things that a is a little bit comfortability. It's scheme, first of all. It's also comfortability. He's been rushing in one spot his entire career. So it's old dog, new tricks. It can be hard to get a guy to do that if. But he actually, if you watch, has had a couple successful rushes on the right side so far this year, but they have to do something there. A lot of chips, a lot of double triple teams. I mean, I think he's if you look at the numbers, I think he's had literally six legitimate one on one pass rushes this year. That's it. It's really, really tough.

[A]

Yeah. How'd that happen? What idiot let that take.

[D]

Yeah, with a game record like that. Aq, I want to ask you when you are putting together like the run tape plan because I know there are checks but like how much easier is it when you know where a guy like 90 is going to be even like pass pro. Cause you see Micah in Green Bay, he's all over the line. J.J. when he played in Houston, he would move all over. So how much easier is that on the offensive game plan wise?

[F]

It's easy because you know exactly where he's going to be. He's going to be on the offense's right. So you can just kind of go left, left a lot of times. But with jj you can put checks in. Right. Like we'll just keep both Watt brothers in here. When he was down in Houston, we would have when he was lined up in a three technique versus a five technique, we would run, run, check it wherever he was at. So we could get the double team with the tray tackle, tight end or if he was in the three we can get the deuce block, go counter the other way. So if he was in the 5 technique strong we would run 5 technique. Please explain 5 technique outside of the tackle. So in between tackle and tight end so you get the double team there. So regardless of where he was at, we were putting a double team on him.

[H]

What if they're stem and pre snap AQ and he lines up in a five and drops to a three or whatever.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

So that's part of game planner.

[E]

Right.

[F]

Like if a team doesn't show that in any weeks in the previous four or five weeks, when you're doing your breakdown, then you know exactly what's going to happen. If they start doing that and playing chess during the game, then obviously you're going to have to adjust and then come up with your own game plan and adjust during the game. But you know with them from your.

[E]

Experience with old lineman. Did you like. So there's two in my mind, at least what I've seen in my career, there's two philosophies. You either run at the best player and put a double on him or you just say, hey, we're going to run away and try and not let him chase it down from the backside. Which did you prefer as an offensive lineman?

[F]

Liked running at the person. Because then you know exactly what's going to happen. And for you specifically, we'll just go back to you as the example when you played in that five technique and we weren't checking and you were on the backside, you were so good at that backside swimming chase down the line and you made the play anyway. So it was like you kind of have to play that feast or famine game, but at the end of the day, I'd rather have two guys on the. On their best player.

[A]

Yeah, the people at what, what year did you become a check? And did you know you were a check? Like you just heard that from another team there? Just talk about when JJ was in, when he was at three technique. We got a AC Doocy here. Then when he's outside, we got a trey block out here. We gotta do this like every snap, though, it was like, check 99. Where the hell is he? This is what we're doing. What year did that become? And are they saying that aloud? Like you're hearing them say that? You know what's taking place?

[E]

Yeah, so that was after 2012. So it was my first defensive player of the year. Next year came out and you started hearing all sorts of different things. And so the way you try to combat that milk, milk turn down for once. And what you guys are talking about with moving guys around. So we had our way to combat that. I would line up in that five technique and me and whether it was Jared Crick on the other side at the last second, we try and flip so that they couldn't switch the play, but they would literally then pause check and then run exactly the opposite way. And so you'd. You'd be trying to stay ahead of it, you'd be trying to bounce around. But these offenses, they know exactly what you're going to try and do to combat it. So that's why, like, it's not as simple as moving around. Yes, it makes a little more work for them during the week to have to plan for it, but they're really good too, man. They're smart on offense. Those guys know what they're doing.

[F]

To say exactly what you were just saying, if you're trying to do that and you get us maybe one time, then we just go to a double cadence to get you show your to. To show your little stunt or your little flip and then we'll just get you to show it.

[A]

Okay, cool.

[F]

Now we check the other.

[A]

He got us, he got us that first time. We. We need to make sure that that happen. Yeah, we, we need a double cadence here. And then Guess what? We're going on three. The next. If he gets us, if he starts to figure out that we're going on too, we're going four. Okay. We need to figure out where the hell this guy is. What a compliment to you, JJ Legit. That had to feel so cool. I mean, you got a player of the year, obviously, that's a huge compliment. But then whenever you're hearing entire professional football players, just entire game plan is revolving around what your abnormally large athletic ass is doing on every single play. That's a cool thing.

[F]

The other thing that's absolutely hilarious, and I remember it specifically with Aaron Donald later in my career, is because defensive lineman sub out. Out, right? Like o lineman play the whole game or defensive lineman sub out. So literally, when I was coaching in 21, we wouldn't have any play actions called. And then over the. Over the mic you hear, he's out, he's out, he's out.

[B]

And then BA goes with the chunk.

[F]

Play with the play action.

[A]

And that's because Aaron's not on the field. Bingo. I assume that happened to you, J.J. on a regular basis. The big one's missing a play. Why? Who cares? Yeah, let's go ahead.

[E]

That's why you play every play. That's like the Max Pro Crosby thing. He plays every snap like it's that competitor in you. You're like, if I go to the sideline, that could be the play that changes the game or that could be the sack opportunity that I miss. So, yeah, it's. It's a very real thing.

[A]

Go ahead, A.J.

[H]

J. Speaking of great offenses, the San Francisco 49ers and Mac Jones at the helm, they are doing very well at his. His early start this season. What do you think? I think con man has been talking about some. Some Internet rumors that possibly if Max steps in and plays well, who knows, Bur Purdy might just stay on the bench. Because we know how much Shanahan loves this Mac Jones character. What do you think of him? Do you think he's just going to continue to get better and better as this year goes.

[A]

Where.

[E]

Where are those rumors?

[A]

Shafter told us those are not real rumors. We must clarify this. We were just doing personality profile on Shanahan saying that he is certainly a guy that if he was to have success with Mac Jones, a guy he originally traded a lot of pieces for at the beginning was that massive amount of success. Nobody's safe. And that includes a guy that we lost of in Brock Purdy. But then Schefter said That's not reality. That's. I don't think that's reality at all or whatever. So then. So we're off of that rumor. But we certainly created that, and I think there was maybe three people that were saying it on the Internet. Jj, if you would like full transparency.

[E]

We're. We're at Wednesday of week two here. So you got to create something.

[A]

Week three. Week three. Yeah.

[E]

Have a little respect.

[A]

It's week three. Thank you. Please.

[E]

I'm in end of week two. Week three.

[C]

Sure.

[E]

Started week three.

[A]

Sure. I did. See, spaceships don't come equipped for three review mirrors. They dip, brother. We're on to week three. Okay. We are all eyes ahead, and I apologize for interrupting. But with that being said, Mac Jones looked very good.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Shanahan wanted him originally at the number three overall pick. He's been through a lot. He looks damn good. There's in a good spot now that they got two great quarterbacks.

[E]

You think this is. This is a fascinating part of being on the broadcast on the week. Like, I. This is my first time seeing a few of these throws, and he is slicing and dicing out there. So it is. He is having some success, it appears. And that's very nice to have an option like that behind your starting quarterback. And I'm sure the Vikings are hoping that they have a very similar situation in their locker room.

[A]

Carson Wentz and Mac Jones, similar styles.

[B]

Yeah, similar. Kind of.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You could say in a way.

[E]

In what way? In what way?

[F]

Max.

[B]

Like the pocket passer version of Carl White.

[A]

Potentially. Potentially.

[B]

And if you sack him, you got to be careful because you might grab your leg and twist it.

[A]

Yeah. And kick you.

[B]

He might kick you right in the nuts.

[A]

Right in the nuts. We don't know if he's doing that anymore. We do know that he had a. I don't know if it was an allergic reaction. Anytime he was sliding his foot, just found the nearest junk.

[B]

It was a phobia, not an allergic reaction phobia.

[A]

Oh. As soon as he's. And maybe it was just. You know that when you're a kid and you guys.

[E]

I was going around the NBA for a bit.

[A]

That. That.

[E]

That.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

It's kind of an epidemic every once in a while. You know, when the kids go to the doctor and they have that hammer and they hit him in the knee and it kicks up. Mac Jones has this weird thing. He had it. I don't know if he got it fixed. Anytime his left hip, ass cheek would hit ground, his right foot would Just find Dick. And it was. It was a crazy thing. We'd never seen it before. Yeah, doctors said. Doctor said he got it handled, though, so it might have been his nuts.

[E]

Speaking of kicking, do. Do the Indianapolis Colts hate punters? We said we'd get into a Wednesday. I mean, it seems like you guys hate the brand up there now, to.

[A]

Be clear, punters are cool with that. If we're not punting, that means we're winning. Rico Barto Sanchez, one of the best in the game, has been around for. I think this is his ninth season now. We love him here in Indy. He's battled through cancer throughout his time here in India. I think he also tore Achilles. Achilles, yeah. He's been through it. He's very talented. He's good dude. Beloved here. And all he cares about is winning, brother. That's all Rigoberto Sanchez cares about. He's had great holds for Spencer Schrader, including a game winner. Two of them can't be doing leverage. Jj, you know, that can't be cheating. While you're trying to block punts or block kicks, especially on a 60, do.

[E]

You consider giving some of your paycheck to other guys on the team? Oh, if it didn't work at all.

[A]

Okay. Change on a Sunday. He did work. Game winner, brother. Game winner.

[B]

You imagined.

[A]

Boom. There he is. Right? Pause it. Go back, go back, go back. There it is. That's him.

[D]

Operation a lot of field.

[A]

I don't want to be the holder.

[H]

I know. I don't want to hold what's score.

[A]

J. What score? Right there. Just So I know.

[E]

28, 26.

[A]

How many defensive ends, outside linebackers, are on the field right now for the Indianapolis Colts? I don't know. I. I mean, how.

[E]

How would I know?

[A]

Should they give their check maybe to Rigoberto Sanchez for having such a big time play here on a game winner in there. A little bit of money that maybe should be spread over to Rigoberto Sanchez here. Absolutely. Yeah, exactly. That's what we're saying. That's what we're saying this whole time. But on that note, he hit like a 60 some yarder in week one. Bomb. Miami Dolphins, dude. Miami Dolphin stuff. Running into the punter, first down kind of gets wiped off. Boy, that's a great punt. First punt of the season. That is setting you up to be in a great spot. 60 some yards. Bomb.

[B]

It sucks that it got taken off.

[A]

Bingo. Yeah, yeah. Gone, Gone. Absolutely gone. And also, you're not going to punt.

[E]

Average would have been 60 yeah. Week three average, 60 yards.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah. So he is ready for it. He's enjoying it all. He's been around, too. He's not a new guy, so it's like he's enjoying the vibes. This is much better than what it's been, but, yeah, I love that. Danny Dimes in the Colts offense.

[E]

What's going on up there, man? What is going on?

[A]

What's going on, brother? You tell me, Jade. First ballot hall of Famer. You're watching the tape. Your eyes are seeing what we're all seeing live in person, in loud house, both games home. So we've seen literally the start of this entire era. He understands everything that's going on in front of him. He makes the right decisions. He's still incredibly fast, and I think the team is really talented. There's been a lot of money that has been spent on this roster, which is kind of what I've been saying all off season. And even last year, I was saying, like, hey, we got a lot of money on this roster. We got a lot of really good guys on this roster. We just couldn't win, you know, we didn't have a lot of consistency from one position, and it happened to be the most important one. And now he's. He's unbelievable to watch, man. And he's. I mean, like Barry Sanders, you know, ball to the ref and everything like that. He has three touchdowns on the season already, and we've seen two of them right in front of us. One of them was on the other side, and it's just like, immediately up. Balder reference. Lineman, lineman with the boys, and then we're just jogging off the field. Like. He does not. There's zero. He's perfect for us, jh. He is perfect for our team.

[E]

Very, very good defense. He was dicing up, too. Speaking of money, there's a lot of money on that defense. They have a ton of great, great players on that defense. Vance is a great D coordinator. He had a really nice game against a very tough defense.

[A]

Okay, so are you a little bit worried? Because there's a chance now? Connor was reading off some potential storylines in the afc. The Texas Texans are involved in one of them.

[B]

Yeah. Jj it feels like the AFC has now kind of gone for a loop. The division winners are kind of still up in the air, but teams like the Bengals, who are two and. Oh, still now, but with the backup quarterback coming in, they're a projected playoff team. That's going to change, possibly with Browning. The Texans 0 2. They go to Jacksonville at 1 o' clock Sunday. Them going to 03 would be wild. The Chiefs, the Chiefs are 0 2. Them going to 0 3. The Broncos, they're 1 and 1. They go to the Chargers. They could end up being one and two. It feels like the teams that were expected to kind of go aren't going right now. Are you worried about some of those projective playoff teams that might kind of not live up to the expectation?

[A]

Oh, and three is tough, brother. Very tough. Stats are not good for oh and three. J. Yeah.

[E]

No, I think. I think there's a very big underestimation about the first place schedule. Like, like the Texans have played the Rams and the Buccaneers. Two very good football teams. Two first place football teams. It was 14 to 9 against the Rams. A very, very close game. And then obviously this last one on Monday night. Multiple different things go one single way. And we're having a very different conversation today. But that's how the margins are in the NFL. It's so fine, it's so small. They add them to 4th and 10 and obviously just missed that tackle in the backfield. And Baker slips out. All the credit in the world to Baker. Unbelievable competitor. Has an incredible final drive. Uses his legs, uses his arms. Just seems to have that belief that he is never going to be out of a game and never lose. And his team rallies around that. But I mean, 14 to 9 against the Rams and then losing on the final, you know, play drive of the game here against the Bucs, couple plays away from having a completely different conversation. But that's what sucks about this league, man, it's so hard. And now they're sitting in that locker room trying to figure it out, talking to each other, like, man, what do we got to change? What do we got to do? And it could literally be one single play.

[A]

There's a lot of teams still thinking that they're in it at 02. And there's teams that are one and one that think they're still in it. Then there's a couple teams that we all just think are dead. Ty has a question for you. Jj.

[C]

Yeah, jj, if you had to guess, how bad do you think things are in Miami right now? Because from what we hear from the media, I mean, I guess there have been a couple people who said, like, hey, listen, the Dolphins aren't. Aren't as bad as everyone thinks they are. And then they've looked like Hammer Dog two weeks in a row, kind. I mean, maybe not as much against the Patriots. But then we hear Mike McDaniel and his press conference, kind of doing the too cool for school thing, which doesn't really work when everyone wants you to get fired, but he did it anyway. You. You haven't been exactly in this situation, but you obviously had a couple tough years. I mean, I guess, Pat, you know, you guys as well, like, at this point in the season, we've only had two games. But, but what's the, what's the feeling in that locker room right now? Like, do you think they think they can turn things around? Or are we already kind of starting to think like, oh boy, we might be looking at a, you know, 2 and 15 record this year?

[E]

Well, you, you actually did hit on it there. In your, in your question, there's two different types of 02 feelings. Like, there's the one where it's like, damn, we. We lost two really tough games.

[A]

We're.

[E]

We easily could have won those.

[A]

And we're.

[E]

We're a great team. We're going to be just fine. And then there's the own two where you're looking like, boy, would have been nice to steal one of those because it's going to be a long year. You look at theirs this, this last game, the Patriots, I mean, I was just watching the film earlier, they have that return touchdown where all of a sudden you're like, oh, Dolphins, they kind of got this one and then immediately the Patriots run the kickoff back for a touchdown.

[B]

Another one that's very.

[E]

Everything is just crushed. So, yeah, it's tough, man. And then it's just when it starts to snowball and when everybody's already kind of on your ass already as it is, and then you go 02 and then the snowball gets bigger and bigger, man. It's really, really tough. And they're kind of in that snowball right now, so they have to find a way to stop it. And it's much easier said than done. And I mean, it's been talked about a ton of the players only meeting in week one. And I mean, who wins?

[A]

Who wins? Talk about that before. Who wins in a race right now? Commentator JJ or 50 year old Vrabel. You saw him on that return on a sideline. He had good knee drive, bro. Did you see the lean? See the lean and the knee drive? I mean, you're talking Hammy getting busted for me. But there's a photo right at the beginning of that angle. He still got it. I don't know how he's able.

[E]

Chin angle.

[A]

Yeah. Great.

[E]

Sh. We in our game had Sean McVeigh, did apparently pop his planner fascia. So coaches on the sidelines running. Brian Kelly's going down flute.

[A]

Brian Kelly's getting worse than anybody. He had to go get a MRI after week one, and then he got hit again this week.

[E]

Vrabel's the one way.

[A]

Doing it again. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Again. Yeah. Brian Kelly watch is real right now.

[B]

It was awesome.

[A]

He's gotta get that man out of the white.

[B]

He needs to get back.

[E]

Get the man out of the white.

[A]

Great. But his LSU team is good. For the first time since he's. He's eager to be out there. You know, he. Broken neck, broken hip. Whatever the case, he wants to be out there. And the refs are sending out the memo.

[C]

Brian, get the out of the way.

[A]

We're gonna kill you.

[C]

No one's signing up to be his get back coach. No Brian Kelly.

[A]

Why?

[B]

Not kidding me?

[C]

Are you kidding me?

[A]

Why?

[C]

If some low level staffer. Hey, you're gonna be Brian Kelly's get back coach. That guy's getting 5,000 times a game.

[H]

Peripheral vision.

[E]

He didn't see anything.

[A]

He got the timeout, though. He got the timeout. We should say, in the face of adversity. He held in the pocket. The guys were crashing down and he completed the timeout. I think we should talk about that. Brian Kelly, you're way too old to be taking these hits. Oh, he looks good. He does. And I want to say, Brian Kennedy, congrats, dude. Yep, Just keep on chugging. This guy's taking two huge shots this season.

[B]

Big bumps. You get a health update.

[A]

Huge shots.

[E]

That's great. That is great.

[A]

Okay. We would like to say thank you to you for joining us on this day. And we would also like to say congratulations to your espanol team. And we've been told the Burnley team not going to get relegated after this season.

[B]

Let's go.

[A]

So congrats on everything. Your calling. Game's great. Great. Obviously, we're very appreciative of your time on Wednesdays. Your teams are good. Good for you, jj. Everything seems to be going great. Hope the family's amazing.

[E]

They are. I hope your family's amazing. I very much enjoy being here every week. I'm very thankful for the opportunity.

[A]

Have a great day. We love you, jj. That's JJ Wallace.

[B]

Yeah, jj.

[A]

We love you, jj.

[B]

Love you, J.

[A]

Love you, jj. Bill's new stadium's coming along.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Have you seen this?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Some photos have come out of it. So they look nice.

[B]

Very nice.

[A]

It looks very, very nice now. It's one thing missing from the photo. Unless you guys saw and I didn't.

[B]

Nope, nope. Zoomed in on every corner. Did not see it.

[A]

Where the Bison. We need to see the now granted they're spending billions of dollars on this state of the art stadium.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Beautiful. Just would like that to be known. Think you guys are doing great. The overhead photos every time it's shown make you guys look even better. This is what it used to be. Stadiums which are great. Got us to the place we are Now. Here's what stadiums can be if you want to invest in them. But we're going to have to see those Bison. AJ we need that thing. I need to be walk under a chest of that thing is what I'm kind of hoping for.

[H]

The top of the Bison need to be halfway up that stadium. The facade right there in the front needs to be halfway up.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

On this side you're saying? Yeah, this side. Right.

[H]

So you see that orange crane? Almost to the top of that orange crane.

[A]

D. But your thoughts?

[D]

How much did I spend on this?

[A]

I don't know.

[D]

I think this kind of stinks. What you put. Put up a Legion stadium. Put up so far stadium and then put up this.

[A]

You're saying they're a little ufo?

[D]

This looks like the that was sitting outside of Matt Stafford's practice.

[A]

You know what that does look like?

[B]

A Pittsburgh toilet. Now that I'm looking at.

[A]

Does look a bit like shite. They're in the winter. You're talking about places that have sun all the time. This thing's going to be a total stadium. It's gonna be a futuristic stadium. This thing's gonna have Bison Roman outside. That's gonna make you say, damn, I don't want to play the Bills today. On that note, if you don't want to watch the show anymore, we understand we continue digitally. We'll see you tomorrow. I think I got it.

[B]

Yeah. Nailed that one.

[A]

Nailed it. Think I got it in. Can I say something about the stadium tole? Absolutely, Tom. Listen, Allegiant great. I'm sure this stadium is gonna be great.

[C]

But last night, after those AI stadiums.

[A]

Started coming out all over the Internet.

[C]

Every NFL stadium out there now sucks.

[B]

Okay?

[C]

My eyes have been open to AI football stadiums and that's what the future needs to be.

[A]

Well, I want to let you know those AI football stadiums certainly are working without a budget and a plan and people having to agree on things.

[F]

Agreed.

[A]

On that note, they are cool.

[B]

Some great ideas in there.

[A]

They are cool. We need 3D printers now, right?

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

We put a 3D printer with an AI and give them like 10 years or so and just say, hey, here's what you need to make. They'll stay and they'll do that. I think that's the state. That's the world we're in right now. And I appreciate that because if we do get like. I only saw a few of that. I didn't stay through the whole video, but. Oh yeah. I mean, Edgar Allan Poe actually thought of this thing. Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So cool.

[A]

Down here in Tampa Bay. They got a pirate ship. Sure. That's cool. How about this?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. How about this? This would be better. Maybe a moat in there. How about the Pittsburgh Steelers? Oh, mama. I'm in fear for my life from the smoke coming out of the stack. Things right there. Boys will be playing a game. Pittsburgh going to have a little bit of a soot home field advantage. How about the Cowboys having that big ass cowboy hat. Cardinals, obviously. Let's get a little shade from what big fucking bird. That's what we are. Bird gang. Bird gang. Let's go ahead and do this thing. And then how about the Niners? They got the gold Gold rush happening. People went out there and flocked there thinking that they were going to find gold and hit home and hit rich. Then he got Avatar with the Jacksonville Jaguars.

[D]

Okay, wait a minute.

[A]

Shot Khan could put this together.

[B]

Yes, he could.

[H]

That might be the one.

[A]

This might be what the future is. Yeah. Shot Khan down there and then obviously the Miami Dolphins. Yeah. There's a big fish tanks. Yeah.

[H]

It's kind of cool.

[A]

The kingdom.

[B]

Yeah. They did. They did some weird type of witchcraft thing here.

[A]

No, the fire at the top is pretty cool.

[C]

It's neat.

[A]

It is neat. Cincinnati Bank. Welcome to the jungle. We got fun and games. Our quarterback got hurt. It's pretty lame. They. They really did though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Joe Burrow getting hurt. Sucks for the Bengals.

[B]

Brutal for Ball.

[A]

And Jake Browning. We have faith in. We think he's going to do great in the Lions. That would be cool. Foxy. That's awesome.

[C]

They.

[B]

They don't.

[A]

I love everything. Gladiator season. Caesar type. Feel here.

[H]

The Colts.

[A]

Well. Comment.

[B]

That's America. Better.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Boom. Every single Sunday a military parade.

[A]

What is that? Like 50, 000 people there? Right? Probably in all these. 30 to 40, 000.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

If that.

[A]

But it looks cool.

[C]

It does look cool.

[A]

Oh, the Beals outside with a waterfall in Buffalo.

[B]

Nice design.

[F]

Buffalo Falls.

[A]

This is what AJ this is what AI can't do. They don't know. How cold is Denver?

[B]

Oh, that's awesome. That one is cool. Holy.

[A]

See what I'm saying? There's a virtual reality ping pong stadium. That is. That is the backdrop in there. It is really sick. That would be cool if they make that stadium so the Waltons have enough money to do it. Maybe it's an alternative stadium you guys have.

[B]

Okay. Like an alt weekend.

[A]

Yeah. Like an all week at the new stadium up in the mountain, up there in the Rockies. That's a good idea. Not a bad idea. I didn't see the Colts. That's casino's stadium.

[B]

Yeah. They can't do it. They just. They're staying.

[H]

Why'd they do Cincinnati then?

[B]

Boring.

[A]

I don't. You know, I think they're throwing him a bone because they threw sponsorship on it. By the way, Rest in peace. Forest Lucas, founder of Lucas Oil, which is obviously sponsor Lucas Oil Stadium. Indiana businessman, he passed away last week. He paid a lot of money to have that beat Lucas Oil Stadium. I think he was a big part of maybe the Colts even staying in Indianapolis. I think with the investment of the sponsorship and everything like that. Recipes to him. But Cincinnati Bengals, they started doing business. You know, they sold the name of the stadium and the AI people were like, okay, we should throw them a boat. That jungle looks cool.

[B]

Yeah, it is sweet.

[A]

There's a couple hotels that I've had the opportunity to seeing that have like a lot of like flowers and hanging from roof like that is the design of the ceiling over big space. Really cool looking. That's really cool. I wonder if like in 20 years that's gonna look so terrible. You know how like we go through fashion things where there's like obnoxious designs that we're all in on. And then you walk into one of those buildings 20 years ago, from 20 years ago and you go, this is disgusting. The fuck is this? Whoever decided you're like everybody. I wonder if that's gonna be the. The green, the plant ceilings. You know what I mean? Yeah. A lot of flowers hanging in there. It's awesome though. I would like to let everybody know. And they stay on this day, September 17, 2025. I love that. And if stadium, that Jacksonville stadium down there. Awesome. They should think about taking some ideas shot because I think they're building their right now. Yeah.

[B]

And they can build it probably. And it'll end up standing forever.

[C]

We had a good run with that, unfortunately.

[B]

What happened?

[A]

Why is it done? They lost. Yeah.

[C]

Week two. I mean, you can't say it's going to go on forever and then promptly get beat next week. It just doesn't work like Sha Khan.

[A]

Gave his all up.

[C]

He did. He did.

[A]

I heard eight beef pregame.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. He was out on the field.

[A]

Yeah. Warming up the boys. Yep.

[B]

Pat and go.

[A]

Yeah, he was shotgun. Yeah. Trevor, give me the ball.

[B]

I'm going to spin.

[H]

I already got a gun.

[B]

He does, he does.

[A]

He can spin it. Dude.

[B]

That's why he bought the te.

[A]

What do you think?

[B]

Damn near forced him to.

[A]

I love, I love shot shot con.

[C]

Me too.

[B]

Me too. That stash him in ballmer. I need, I need a ballmer shot con. Sit down.

[A]

Well that maybe some of the trees that Ballmer has can be in the.

[B]

There we go.

[C]

There we go.

[A]

Be the thing. All right, let's get to a break. What's gonna happen with that? It's a lot of big names, a lot of money.

[B]

Yeah. There, there's one guy who's definitely going down.

[A]

Okay, that's a teaser. You'll find out about who that is. Probably never.

[B]

But no, no goverly. It was reported on yesterday. There's one order there. There's one minority owner who I believe invested $2 million into it was 1.99.

[A]

Please excuse me.

[B]

Sorry. Pablo Tori. Sometimes I get confused on what the exact reporting is but again Paul Tori said that it, it was in fact there's some money being invested by owners of the Clippers and Baldwin probably didn't.

[A]

Know Pablo Tori I think just on this particular one just started turning over thing. And then what? And then what? And then what? And at what point did he like this is gold. Yeah.

[C]

Massive conspiracy.

[A]

This is a huge story. And then he just starts leaking it and then they combat him and he's like is that right? Part two.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then he said no, no. Okay, just wait for this one here. Boom. There's part three there. Anything else? Any more brain busters out there is basically what Pablo Tori is doing. It's like how many now you immediately got thinking about everybody else.

[B]

Well, and you can stay in that city. You know the Clippers in la. I, I, I wonder if Pablo checks in on Shohei.

[A]

And then there's a lot around that man. Yeah, there's a lot around that made.

[D]

Us through last night again, by the way.

[B]

Yeah, it was unbelievable.

[A]

Believable the amount of that has gone on around him. Both actual in court and allegedly stuff and things are being said about him for him to remain like that. Unbelievable. I think as an athletic.

[B]

Yeah. But does he stink at Pitching now?

[C]

No, he pitched.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Five innings.

[B]

No, no, I just saw. I just saw seven runs and I didn't.

[C]

They lost. They blew it for him. But, I mean, he pitched a hell of a game. Also hit two run homer. I mean, he's, you know, he's doing everything he can.

[A]

And it gets real loud. It gets. It's real loud around him.

[B]

Real loud.

[A]

And I guess maybe it just has been since he was a kid. Is that kind of what it is? I don't know how he's able to.

[B]

No, it.

[C]

It.

[A]

Baseball is a big time.

[C]

It got like this when he got to the Dodgers because that was the thing is, like, the. The Angels were never making the playoffs. Like, he was unbelievable, but they were never in a position where it really mattered. And then he got to the Dodgers, and they're a super team and they start winning all the time, so it's a lot easier to start poking holes and stuff. Like, wait a minute. Like, let's look into this guy a little bit more.

[A]

Yeah. But I think he. Once again, I am on sh side.

[C]

His play has not dipped at all. He's gotten better every single year, which is crazy. When he first came in, they. They were like, this guy might be the best baseball player.

[A]

And he's got moxie. Remember we talked to him.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

He's got like actual mox. And he understands what we're saying. Saying.

[C]

He does.

[D]

Every word.

[B]

Yep. And he can speak English. It's awesome.

[A]

No, some things I assume he can't pull everything. I assume, like, if he had word bank, probably be able to figure it out. But I don't think, like, sitting on our show. I know there was a lot of people are like, he. He answered you literally a couple different times. He knew exactly what you were saying. It's like, I think he probably has a limited amount.

[C]

If he's talking about baseball, I'm bet. I'm guessing he can have a conversation in English. You go too far. Far outside of that. I. I don't know if he could.

[A]

That Japanese language is so different than. Yes, it is so different.

[C]

There would be times when we were at the All Stars.

[A]

You think he speaks full English everywhere?

[B]

How the.

[A]

I mean, you think expert level of English?

[B]

No, absolutely not.

[H]

Expert. But they could do it. But you could. There's guys that play in major leagues for 20 years that still act like they can't speak English when we all know they can.

[A]

In hockey. In hockey, they have the story of the Russians potentially being like, I can't west can't do media. You don't understand what you're saying. And then behind the scenes they know it. But I don't know, man.

[D]

Great gimmick.

[B]

Without a doubt. There are guys who come into the majors and learn English in two years. This guy's been in the major leagues for seven, eight years. Like I get it for sure. But then. And with, you know, our conversation. There's a translator. There's been conversations where he doesn't have a translator. Been plenty of.

[A]

Who is the guy? Say, need to eat more banana.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Crop.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I don't remember who that was for the Blue Jays. It was like 10 plus years ago. But he's a player.

[A]

How many years was he in the mlb? I'm sorry? In mlb.

[C]

Probably for a while.

[B]

I.

[C]

Again, I. I can't think of his name. I mean, now I'm not gonna say that because it's not him. He does look like him, but never mind. But he's. He's probably.

[A]

Yeah, we don't want to.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Because boy.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

People get very bad at it. We don't want it. Mean it that way.

[C]

I'm really not taking a shot.

[A]

It is Muori Kawasaki.

[C]

Yeah. Wouldn't have guessed that.

[D]

It's easy lesson.

[C]

Yeah, I don't. I honestly. He's definitely not in the.

[D]

That's what I'm saying. Very popular. But now he. He doesn't look anything like that.

[A]

I know you're talking about.

[D]

He don't look like that guy.

[C]

They look exactly Al.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you. D. But thank you for saying that. Let's get to a break. I don't think Shohei's just got complete range of the handle of the English language. Okay. Oh. It's a sticking point for some people to be like. Because the translator obviously caused a lot. So still having one, everybody.

[B]

I think so he's smart enough to get a 10 year, $750 million and get it that none of that money gets tax, which is a very savvy money move.

[A]

Is he representing himself?

[B]

No. I don't know. But I assume he has smart people around him. Those smart people around him who negotiate that deal, they never thought, you know, there's no communication or anything like that with Mitsuhara.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

I'm just. I'm just saying this is why I want Pablo S Tory to look into it.

[A]

We want to know if he could speak English or not. I want to.

[B]

I genuinely want to know the whole story. And also if Shohei is Completely clean. He should want it, too, because then all this bullshit is like, I never even have to think about it again.

[A]

It got real loud with a lot of shit it did. And he just continues to do his thing. Posture, special, poised, composed in there. The game's bigger than it's ever been. 30 million people are watching in Japan. All right, watch me hit another one out here. Bang. Welcome to the show. Hey. Guy's a beast. He is. How is basically Spot doing? Paul Ske still undefeated.

[C]

I mean, he's still. He's unbelievable.

[F]

You know, he got smoked yesterday, Got pulled in three innings. Gave up, gave ups.

[C]

Those are. Those are probably, like, the. The most runs he's given up maybe in, like, four months.

[A]

Oh, thanks for picking and choosing stats.

[F]

I just happened to see it.

[C]

He's minus 50,000 to win the Cy Young. So I know. Is that good enough for Yaq or.

[F]

You want to throw out. He's not good at.

[C]

You want to throw out the Nardo?

[A]

You want to spit on Denardo's grave, too, today?

[B]

Oh, here we go. Yeah, just keep.

[A]

Keep run off Pittsburgh over there.

[F]

Relax.

[A]

Well, maybe you need to show a little bit of respect to the city.

[F]

I mean, you're going to have a coronary over TJ Wat not flipping sides. Relax over there.

[A]

Nobody speaking. How many people speak good about Pittsburgh? You need to speak good about Pittsburgh.

[F]

I love Pittsburgh. Sorry. I just saw on the plane last night, yanked after three beginnings.

[A]

And how's your dad feel about it all?

[F]

He shut it off after the first run.

[B]

Guaranteed.

[A]

Ah, they're done.

[B]

They've been done. Why aren't the young guys up first?

[A]

Buck. Biggest Buckos fan I've ever met is his dad Now, Tone, also actual Pirates fan. So I respect that. I don't know how you guys do it, but I respect it. I'm Paul Skeen's fan.

[C]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

Cy Young winner again, right?

[C]

Did he win it last year, the record? I don't think he did.

[B]

He won rookie of the Year.

[C]

Yeah. And that was the big talking point is like, this guy probably should win Cy Young, but he didn't get it. But I think the idea was, like, he's probably gonna win, you know, eight or nine out of the next ten. So we'll just. We'll give him rookie of the Year. Give someone else Cy Young.

[A]

And then Cal Raleigh still doing his thing.

[C]

He slowed down a little bit. I don't know if he's gonna break judge's record. He's really gonna have to be hot because I believe there Are. Are eight games left, eight or seven for the regular season. So he's hit two last night, and he. I either tied or broke Griffey's record for the Mariners. So he's still. He's still, you know, really hammering the bay ball. But now it'll. It'll come down to, is he gonna win the mvp? Is it going to be him or Judge that wins the MVP in the al?

[A]

And we know who you want.

[C]

The better player.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Who's Aaron Judge? By a long shot.

[A]

Shot. This guy's part of every single play.

[C]

I love Cal Rally.

[A]

He's got his ass down there, a catcher. Every single play he's in there calling, he's mixing it up.

[C]

Every single play judges minus 450 to win the MVP.

[A]

Well, that's because they got people like Ty out here saying, we love Aaron Judge. I love Aaron.

[C]

You know why Judge is going to win the mvp? Because he's the best player in the league.

[A]

Cal.

[C]

Cal. Rall. He's b. His batting average is 80 points higher than Cal rallies, and he missed 20 games with an elbow. Lucky, you know? I mean, his elbow's hanging on by a shred, and he's out there playing the outfield, still hitting home runs. I love Cal Raleigh. We met him. We talked to him. But we're talking about. We're talking about MVP awards here. We're talking about legacy, okay? We're talking about that kind of stuff. I get it. Catchers aren't supposed to do what he's doing.

[A]

Both sides of the plate, too.

[C]

He ain't hearing Judge.

[A]

Okay?

[C]

There's only one judgy.

[A]

All right?

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Let's get to a break. We'll be back on the other side. That was baseball. We did baseball, AJ how they're Reds.

[H]

Oh, they're doing great. Schwarber's killing it, though. I know he's doing well. See him celebrating.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

What about NL MVP Schwarbo or Shohei.

[H]

Somewhere on the red.

[C]

Shohei's minus 50, 000. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Bryce Schwarber's good, but that's again, that's what these guys. You know, you hitting a lot of home runs is awesome. You still, you know, still got a hit for average in baseball.

[A]

Schwarber's gonna get a bag this offseason. He's a free agent. Congrats to him. We love that. I can't wait to see what he buys. I think that guy likes being out there in the country. I think he really likes being out there in the woods. I appreciate him. He was great on game day. Game day this weekend down there in Miami. At the end of this show, we will. I don't know if we'll run it.

[C]

It's long, 38 minutes or so.

[A]

It's available though.

[C]

It is.

[A]

It is available. Another college football convo with Stanford Steve. This is back to back weeks where we really did it. We're really doing a college football show. AJ Like a real one.

[H]

Another one.

[A]

Another college football combo. It. We don't. The title is a work in progress here. Do you think that sounds negative the way you laughed and said it? Is it a negative?

[H]

I love everything about. About Stanford Steven. Just another podcast out there for another guy.

[D]

It's.

[A]

It's beautiful.

[H]

I love Stanford Steve.

[A]

You know that we're gonna call it not a nutter college football convo, but if you say it the way I said it sounds negative, but if you say it not a nutter college football combo, it's a little different. So we're trying to make sure it sounds positive because it is. It is positive.

[C]

You could.

[H]

I never thought anything negative about it.

[C]

It could. It could be like not your grandfather's.

[A]

There we go.

[C]

College football combo.

[A]

Not your grandfathers or utter fathers or another father.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Just really. Yeah. Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

All right. Work in progress. But we are a college football podcast host now and it's fun. It's fun to learn about Stanford Steve does a lot of research. He needs to stop burying cow bears though. I know Stanford Cal hate, right Runs deep. But wait till the Calgorithm catches hold of what he said.

[B]

I know it was.

[A]

That's tease. Who's the guy you teased earlier?

[C]

Clippers. Minority owner.

[A]

Yeah, they just Alam.

[B]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Well, I didn't say his name. I don't know his name.

[A]

Boom.

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Pablo.

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You've seen the headlines, heard the debates.

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The three point ball has created a.

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[G]

Has the three pointer ruined basketball?

[A]

And how did we get here? The rise of the three point shot.

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Hey, it's magical and we're incredibly lucky that we get to chat about it. That's AJ Hawk. The toxic tables here at Boston. Connor and at Ty Schmidt, nine year NFL vet, host of everything db Good D, Bad D Coming in a matter of moments. Opponents dare say Butlers here and 12 year NFL event Super bowl champion player, coach host of in the Trenches Top five performing lines. Thank you. Shipley's here. That'll happen in just a matter of moments. And then live from Hammer is Tone Takestone. Tony, how do you think AQ Shipley's top five rankings is going to go this week versus last week? Do you think it's going to be the same five lines? Do you think it's going to be new lines and you think it's going to be riveting and entertaining? Or do you think you're gonna say I hate that? I watch that. What are your thoughts on it, Tone? That's right around the corner here.

[C]

I think it will be riveting and entertaining and insightful because AQ is always all of those things. But if I know AQ, it's also probably gonna be the same 5, 0 lines. Cause that's just kind of what he does.

[A]

Okay, little lazy sage Tone, let's dive into it. This is in the Trenches Top five performing offensive lines from week two. Let's go with number five, aq. Shoot Shipley, who's the number five offensive line after week two?

[F]

Number five is the Atlanta Falcons.

[A]

One and one down there in the NFC South. What did you see from them?

[F]

First of all, they ran for over 200 yards. Bijon was electric. Algier was electric. They ran for over 200 yards. Let's watch this pace. They're going to run a little run blitz on the left side of the offensive line right there. Twist it off. Pick it up. Werner picks up the backer on the little cutback Bijon.

[A]

Wow, that's well blocked. Remember, you always liked the Atlanta foul Falcons when Artie Smith was down there because of the way they set up runs. The new offense coordinator setting up runs pretty well down there. And do you enjoy what they're doing with Pennix? Obviously young starting quarterback.

[F]

If you guys remember back to week one, whenever Kirk Cousins was there, they went with a completely, completely different scheme and Then in week two, they went back to what they do best and got to the zone scheme. Last year. They have picked that up. They pick up Charlie Werner from San Francisco doing a lot of stuff from the Shanahan scheme. They're doing some really good stuff. And Bijon's bit a little electric with the ball.

[A]

This you're talking about just finding asses. That's what Bijan Robinson's trying to do. Good vision. You know, Dan Orlovsky said he thinks some of these running backs have bad vision. Did you see that?

[B]

Oh, yeah, No, I did. I mute him.

[A]

He was talking to us.

[C]

It was earlier today.

[B]

I meet him. I meet him in my brain. My bad.

[A]

Okay, I appreciate that. Any words coming out of his mouth aren't going into your ears?

[B]

No, no, they. They did.

[A]

It's like Rain X. You got like Dan O X.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

Outside of the ears. Just words just kind of just deflect that way. He said he thought running backs nowadays aren't seeing holes as good as maybe back in the day. Bejon doesn't have that problem at all.

[F]

Did you guys see the video that I posted by chance?

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[F]

Of Bean. That was. That was a pass play. I don't know if you guys saw this. It was a pass play in the game.

[A]

I'm happy we have it on here.

[B]

It's.

[F]

You can pull it off. You can pull it off my ass. I'm trying to give him enough time. You can pull it off my ass. Talking about vision. Right?

[A]

He's got good follow, by the way. Keep shippers. That's right.

[F]

That's right.

[A]

That's right.

[F]

That's right. But anyways, they run a pass play. Here it is. They run a pass play. The scent. There's two linebackers in the aap. See how they are not blocking the one linebacker. This is a pass play. Okay? It just hits Bijon in the arm because the center had a bad snap. He grabs it and. Talk about vision.

[B]

What?

[F]

One little cut. This is a pass play. This isn't a draw. If this was a draw, the left guard would be blocking the linebacker in the left. A gap pass play. Bad snap by center, hits him in the arm, grabs it.

[A]

Are you gonna run the play on this thing? What is. When does the play. Are we gonna see it? What's going on right now?

[F]

We'll get there. It's coming right now. It's coming right now.

[A]

There it is. It already happened. I missed it. They threw you. Very subtle. I missed it. We could go back to the beginning of this thing, you're saying no direct snap.

[F]

It was not a direct snap snap. Because if it was a direct snap, the left guard would be blocking the left. A gap. Both all three wide receivers out in the route. Every single offensive lineman never turned this into a run block. If it was a direct snap, they would turn into run block.

[A]

Add it to the playbook. Add it to the playbook. A direct snap where Bijon steals it, basically. But you're talking about finding holes, I think there. Wow.

[F]

Bingo.

[A]

Look at how skinny he got in there and kept. They're using Bijon. Atlanta Falcons offensive lines doing their thing. They're number five performing offensive line coming out of week two. Who's the number four offensive line out of week two?

[F]

The San Francisco 49ers out there.

[A]

Mac Jones. Who? Who?

[F]

It was great to see this unit perform the way that they did because after week one, they. They said Trent Williams was dead.

[A]

Who said that?

[F]

They said Trent Williams isn't the same. Trent Williams, not us.

[D]

Said he stunk.

[F]

They did. They said he stunk everybody out in Seattle. And I think that has a lot to do with Seattle being better than we're giving them credit for. But this unit back. They looked back. And when you look at this play right here, watch. We always talk about creating matchups. Send the tight end in motion. Leave them for the fullback. Cam Jordan thinks he's getting blocked.

[A]

Boom.

[G]

Easy reach.

[F]

Look at 64 Brendle downfield. Keep going, keep going. Put Werner on his ass.

[A]

Okay. A little bit after the play. But I do appreciate him driving all the way through the final whistle there. San Francisco 49ers had been staple of your best performing offensive lines. Then last year, maybe not as much. Now they're back to being who they are. Is that because Christian McCaffrey is the running back?

[F]

Let me be very clear about one thing. Christian McCaffrey is almost there. We are going to see the explosive Christian McCaffrey that we used to see. It is almost there. The burst is coming back a little better after week one into week two. Watch out this week.

[A]

Congratulations, 49ers back in the top five. Go.

[B]

Are they going to be okay without. I mean, I know know it's the Saints and there's still a good football team, defense, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Kittle and use check on that play. Not in obviously, but still able to do it with a backup tight end, backup fullback. Will that, you know, will they still have that success without those two?

[F]

Absolutely. I was talking about it earlier with some of you guys before the show and listen. Shanahan does such a phenomenal job. You could put my 3 year old son in at quarterback. You could put him in a tight end. You can put him in a fullback, put him in a running back. He will find success. That's how good this guy is at design and plays.

[A]

I love everything about that and I appreciate the fact that Mac Jones was the guy he wanted.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Brock Purdy's a guy that he. He loved.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Fell in love with.

[B]

He's the other guy, though.

[A]

But in high school, Mac Jones was the one down the hall. That Shanahan. Really? Then he got distracted. Trey Lance. Holy. Look how athletic.

[B]

Went to college.

[A]

Found something.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Bounce around a little bit. Got a super bottle and Jimmy G. Yeah, right. Him and did the whole thing. Bounce around. Oh, new talent. But now he's got a chance to go. What was that trip down the hallway like in high school that I never experienced that I wanted. Everybody knew I wanted one regret in his life. Got it.

[F]

You know the difference though?

[A]

They want ham. I guess. Go ahead.

[F]

It was about 250 million million reasons why they won't go away from Purdy this time around.

[A]

Hold on now.

[B]

We're talking about love and the heart.

[A]

Does some crazy things. Yeah, I agree. Especially if you throw no picks. Three touchdowns, 200 in the first time.

[C]

That doesn't hurt.

[B]

There's a couple. Couple of those throws and tight windows. I bet Kyle Shanahan said made his heart skip a beat.

[A]

He said that's what I thought the hallway was. A.J. do you think that Kyle Shanahan is maybe gonna fall in love with that one sweetheart that he let go, you know, and then now he has a chance to experience life alongside and it's been good times now. Brock Purdy, Unbelievable. Will they trade Mac down now? The whole conversation is Mac will play himself into being coming a big time trade target because of how many hurt quarterbacks there already is. Or would they want to keep him as a backup to have good quarterbacks? How do you see The San Francisco 49ers situation shaping up in the long run?

[H]

Man, I think they're going to want to keep Mack on the. On the roster as a good solid backup when they. When they possibly could need him in the future. But it is going to be weird if Matt goes on a big run and then all of a sudden Brock comes in and maybe struggles early on. That creates some issues.

[A]

Oh no.

[B]

Purdy for Miles Garrett and Jerry Judy. I don't know. Does that. Does that help the Niners a Little bit.

[A]

Does that help the Browns? A lot of it, yeah. What's that? Did I just create the. The move? I don't know if Miles Garrett will be in the there, but, hey, Jerry Judy going out to the San Francisco 49ers. Now, granted, we love Jerry Judy and Dog Pound.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Jerry Judy is our favorite player, but.

[B]

I want him to win a Super bowl, damn it.

[A]

And maybe he'll be a part of assisting the Cleveland Browns into getting one. You know, sure. Maybe Brock Purdy goes there and he is the guy that leads him. Maybe he's the perfect guy for the Cleveland Browns and what they need, you know, for everything he's able to do. But if Mac Jones becomes the guy and you got Jerry Judy out there alongside and everybody's healthy, he's backup tight end guy. Unbelievable.

[F]

Unbelievable.

[A]

Imagine him and George both. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, now we're like, stop. And Brock Purdy, right? That's the ball.

[B]

Yeah, he likes Piersaw has been really, really good. And then of course, Joanne Jennings, who got hurt week one, he had like a massive day. Yeah. 50 yard touchdown.

[A]

So when Brock Purdy gets back in this offense, we believe that it's going to be great. But boy, if Mac Jones plays really well here in the.

[B]

And then Brock comes back and the first drive, they go through and out. And then the second drive, maybe someone fumbles. And then the third drive, is there an interception?

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

Maybe Kyle. I don't even know. I don't know if he even gets out there because maybe the third drive, Kyle looks over at Mac and he, you know, hearts are popping up in. In his brain. He's like, I got to go with my heart.

[A]

Damn it.

[B]

I'm sorry. All this money out the window. We want Miles Garrett anyways. Give me Mac Joe.

[A]

It's crazy situation, especially for Brock Purdy. Now, Brock Purdy just got paid a lot of money, so he can laugh all the way literally to the bank on any situation if you had to. And he's earned that money in there. But if The San Francisco 49ers are good, the NFL is good. Sounds like their offensive line is going to be great. Who's the number three offensive line coming out of week two of the NFL season?

[F]

I love this unit. The Seattle Seahawks.

[A]

Wow. One more record out there.

[F]

Seattle very easily could be two. And, oh, I mean, they played really well against the 49ers in week one. And it starts with their offensive line. They got a fullback again, ousts the rookie out of Alabama. Also the other circle gray zable Rookie out of North Dakota State, first round pick, single. Let's beat the shit out of the nose guard, double pancake at the second level. Pittsburgh Steelers defense, dead.

[A]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. On this play, you're saying. On this play, two rookies obviously have three pancakes in one drive in one play is obviously something you're not used to hearing about the Pittsburgh Steelers defense. Defense. Are you saying. This play. Are you saying. Are you saying in general.

[F]

The one thing that's concerning about the Pittsburgh Steelers defense is they've been punched in the mouth. The first two weeks, they've been punched in the mouth. Both teams have ran the shit out of the ball. And this is the second run play from scrimmage.

[A]

Jalen Ramsey just made a tackle with a corner there. I don't know if anybody saw that. Go ahead, Debug.

[D]

I know AJ Mentioned it yesterday, but did they just get caught in a stem here? Aq, like, what happened was Cam and.

[F]

Yeah, they got caught in the stem. So they start to stem down, which that obviously helped. They tried to go from an under defense to an over on the snap, and that creates the huge hole. The fullback also helps because now everybody's working back. Fullback, double pancake.

[A]

A.J. your thoughts? Yeah. What were you saying?

[H]

Oh, yeah, they got caught in the stem, I feel like. But then that 40. Is it 41.

[A]

He's got a.

[H]

It's called box. It didn't hit it with his other shoulder. Knock it back into your linebacker running. But, you know, I. With the late stem, it. I. I see where the confusion might be. He might not know where your help is.

[A]

What is it? Inside shoulder on the outside shoulder. Right. Isn't that normally thing in Same short, same foot.

[H]

41 was to hit it with his left shoulder and knock it back to your linebackers. Running over top.

[A]

Yeah. Inside shoulder on the outside shoulder of the fullback, I do believe. Right. Is what you're trying to do. Yeah. That's special teams talk. Right. Because we're all trying to stay in the lane.

[H]

Boxers. What do I mean?

[A]

I.

[H]

Either you spill it or you box it. Spill it, you hit it inside, make it bounce outside, or box it, you knock rocket back inside.

[A]

I love that. And he could have thought that maybe his fill and his help was coming on the other side because of the late stem.

[H]

I would imagine the late stem, too. It took away his gap. May have changed. And he's like, oh, okay, here we go. There's a lot of space here. What am I doing inside? Like, what am I? Box, spill. I don't know, and then that happens.

[A]

So he's gonna shoot his gun there, basically, whenever all this happens, and he's gonna try to go through the bad feeling.

[H]

Yeah, it's a bad feeling, too, where he's probably. I wonder if he's thinking, like, oh, maybe. I think at the last second, he's probably like, oh, no, I need to box this one. And then all of a sudden, sudden it's too late.

[A]

You're already.

[H]

You're down, and you're taking your buddy with you.

[A]

Tone, what are your thoughts on what AQ just said about defense? And maybe AJ Saying, like, hey, this is just communication error. Maybe this is not a sign of a huge problem. It's actually just maybe something they can get cleaned up going forward.

[C]

Tone, I tend to agree with AQ.

[A]

Because it was a huge problem at the end of last year and it didn't get cleaned up over the summer.

[C]

So I assume, you know, in these.

[A]

Short weeks preparing for games, they'll probably clean it up. Escape. Two different answers there, it sounds like. But the second one, very condescending. Let's go to the number two offensive line coming out of week two, Foxy.

[F]

The Detroit Lions make their way back.

[A]

A lot of questions after week one. No Ragnar, no Big Zeitler, no Rutledge might stink. But also no. A lot of offensive linemen that we've come to learn and love are all of a sudden no longer on the Detroit lines alongside the offense coordinators. Week one, we thought maybe they were done. Now they're back at number two. Why is that?

[F]

Well, because they fixed their scheme. They went back to doing some of the stuff that they used to do. They got Brock right in the wing right here, and they are going to run the Wham, which we saw quite a lot last year. They send Ratlage, who's been struggling at the point of attack, but they sent him behind the center.

[D]

Boom, boom.

[F]

Two traps. Gibbs out in space, got brought in by the Wham block. The corners lost in the sauce.

[B]

Yes, that's what happens.

[A]

That's what happens.

[F]

You see the receiver go in. You're just done right there.

[A]

Hey, the Detroit Lions are back. Back to doing the motions and the shifts and the skips and the stuff like that. Did they stop doing that? Week one?

[F]

They didn't do any of that. They didn't do any of that.

[C]

And we won.

[B]

That was right.

[A]

D.C. looked in a mirror after looking at the film. He's right, man.

[C]

Holy.

[B]

He was right.

[A]

Why did we stop? I'm gonna talk about that tomorrow. Man, and they got right back into it.

[F]

Right back into it.

[A]

And it worked. They did it.

[F]

All game long. They run. Yeah, you gotta hope. I mean, that's what they're good at. That's their bread and butter. And look at Penny Soul, that little kick out block right there. And to be able to hold that at the point of attack is incredible. Look at that. He's by himself on an island right there.

[A]

Foxy, are we all the way back? Is this what the rest of the season's gonna. Yeah, we're all the way back. This is literally all I care about is that the Detroit Lions are on this segment because if they're not on this segment, the offense isn't going to work. Jared Golf isn't going to work. Nothing will work if we cannot do what AQ just showed us. And I'm very, very happy that he pointed out the rookie guard Tate Ratledge, because he has been taking it on the shins for the last two weeks. So I'm happy he kind of bounced back. You bring up a really good point there about if you end up on this segment right here, the team's probably going to be good. Isn't it crazy that that is the least sexy part of football? The offensive line is the most pivotal and you have been pretty accurate in projecting on who's going to end up lasting, which is why this is an important segment, which is why we don't love whenever you're showing bias and stuff. Yeah, yeah. You know, when you stop that, we don't like that. We feel like this week maybe a little bit less biased. But we haven't seen the number one team yet.

[C]

No, we haven't.

[A]

We have no idea what's coming here. We hope that this is an actual judgment and an actual read and an actual opinion as opposed to maybe one that was bought or, you know, positive message or something like that.

[B]

I'm a kid.

[D]

Huge. No, never.

[A]

You're wrong.

[F]

Thanks.

[D]

Too much. Only tape.

[B]

Are you kidding me? I thought it was going to be.

[A]

The number one offensive line coming out of week two of the NFL season.

[F]

Is the most dominant team in the NFL.

[B]

The Buffalo Bills.

[A]

Buffalo coach Fun on here. Okay, sounds good. I love that the Bills are the number one offensive line in the NFL strictly because we are such big Josh Allen fans. Fans. I like that they're teaming those two up together. What did you see from the bills in week two?

[F]

Well, let's take a look at this. We got 13 personnel. We got a tight end to the left. We got two Tight ends, right? Here's what. I love it. This is a full zone to the left. But why this play works so well? The inside tight end on the right, they block out, they wrap, knocks around. That creates the hole. Then you just wash the rest of the offensive line. So you are stretching one side, cutting the back backside. That creates the big gaping hole for James Cook.

[A]

And they let James Cook. All right, Buffalo Bills. New stadium, new vibes. Hard knocks.

[H]

Great play design. Aq. Sorry, Pat. That's great play design. Wasn't AQ with that little fold block huge?

[F]

I mean, it doesn't always work out because tight ends are probably the worst blockers. They. They have the hardest job, in my opinion. They have to learn the whole offensive line scheme and they got to run routes, right? So they got the hardest job. But when you can do that, you make it easy for them. And Knox does a great job just getting up there.

[A]

A.J. to your point, it feels like AQ always appreciates when an offensive coordinator helps people out on their blocks. Like everybody tries to help out. People get open. I think that's like a mindset. Like, hey, the way this play designer runs the routes or gets the routes, this guy's going to be open and get people open. Aq, it seems like you've pointed out a lot of offense coordinators or play design that set up an offense of lineman to be able to block somebody. Like, hey, we're going to actually fake a block on this guy so that he slows down so then you can ear hole him. It's like the advancement of that type of. I think is good for all parties.

[H]

AJ that's like, that's next level thing. Those guys that can scheme it up and figure, okay, hey, this is the front they run. This is how we're going to block it. We're going to straight just like make little tweaks here and there. That's what. That's what's really cool. That's why I'm glad AQ does this, because he. He can find those things and find those little wrinkles that the offensive coordinators can change from week to week because it's tough to actually execute it come game day, usually.

[A]

And he's watching every snap. Yeah, right.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Every team, every snap.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Every game. Every game day. That's right. That's aq, Shipley. That's in the trenches. And here's your top five coming out of week two. This is just week two performances. It's not it. And we need to make sure we remind people of that. Yeah.

[F]

There's a lot of people last week, especially the Baltimore faithful, they don't like fall lele.

[B]

I got to be honest with you. That's the one thing I noticed coming out.

[A]

What do you mean?

[B]

They want this guy.

[A]

They want to.

[C]

I. I remember that. Dating back into overreactions from the end of last year. You're right. They're. They're not a huge fan of this guy.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Gee.

[A]

Good team. Great team. What do we.

[D]

Top O line.

[A]

How about Philadelphia Eagles wanting the offense coordinator fired, undefeated.

[F]

They got to get. They got to get going going.

[A]

Exactly.

[F]

They gotta get going up front. I'm being honest.

[A]

I love that. I agree.

[F]

Hey, 60 yards rushing or less in the first two games.

[C]

Oh, what's that about?

[A]

That's disgusting.

[D]

I thought he had.

[B]

I thought he had 80.

[F]

He might had 80. Yeah, but 16.

[A]

What are you doing?

[F]

You're not seeing the big holes. You're not seeing the big.

[A]

This is what we're talking about.

[B]

And this is what I was gonna say, by the way. And I wasn't gonna say it until you just said that.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

The Bills played the Jets. The Lions played.

[F]

I got a great picture for this. I can't wait. Keep going. I got a great.

[B]

The Colts played the Broncos and rushed for 190 yards.

[A]

I like where your head's at. I don't know where you were going. I like that that's where you went.

[B]

The Broncos are like, were considered one of the best defenses and so I. And again, I genuinely don't know. And maybe like, their O line sucks and Jonathan Taylor was nasty.

[F]

I just.

[B]

I assumed the Colts were number one and that was the angle school Pat was saying.

[A]

No, I didn't know. I actually did.

[F]

So I don't wanna. I don't want to kill the Colts O line because they don't deserve to be killed. He did have one big run. It was mostly on his own, to be quite honest with you. And they got beat up in the interior of the pocket pretty consistently in this game. But getting back to the original point, you played a lot of football. You played a lot of football, A.J. you played a lot of football. You guys know a lot about football. Can you control who's across the line?

[B]

Nope.

[F]

Nope. Just show up on Sunday and block the out of whoever's across.

[A]

Okay, so you're going performance based, not necessarily competition based on what the game is. I understand. I appreciate that. And your biases are not showing. I think the Colts could have cracked into the top five, but hey, Lana.

[F]

Falcon had him at six, actually.

[C]

Oh, okay. Room for improvement.

[B]

First two out.

[A]

Hey, first two out on the bubble, how far do you go?

[F]

I. I normally put, like, eight or nine, and then I, I. And then I go back through, and I re.

[B]

Watch.

[F]

And then I. Okay, these guys got to move up. These guys got to move down.

[A]

Do things like, you'll see one player, two plays.

[B]

You're like, yep, that's number four material. That's exactly right.

[A]

That'll happen. Yeah.

[F]

You can ask Bruce and Debone. I sent them a list yesterday and then sent him a redo.

[A]

Oh, I like that. And that list, that first list that you sent was not the first draft of that either. Well, maybe the coach need to start creeping into that a little bit.

[F]

They were last week.

[A]

Yeah, but I feel like you're not watching the right place. We'll send you the right place. We'll send you the right place.

[F]

Actually, the clips you showed earlier showed the entire interior of the pocket at Daniel Jones feet on the one cross.

[A]

They got a good defense. They got a good team. They got a good team. And Borlini certainly did not know he was signing up for bro. Broncos defense.

[F]

This is good.

[D]

This is good.

[F]

This one's good right here.

[A]

Yeah, there's a lot of good ones. Broncos defense.

[F]

I'm talking about the. The highlights that we showed whenever it was the TV copy, we were showing.

[B]

Off day and time.

[F]

Yeah, a little crossing route over to. Over the middle to number 11, and boom. I just looked down in the entire three in his shins.

[A]

The Denver Broncos got good defense.

[F]

Hey, let's watch Quentin Nelson right here. Let's watch this real quick. Since we got this play.

[B]

Boom. Yeah.

[A]

That'S what I'm talking about. And also, he's motivating, inspiring, and leading the boys. Now feels like he is one of the vocal captains of the Indianapolis Colts, which is good for the Indianapolis courts. Okay, we will hope to get on to the list next week. Thank you for all the work. Now we're just talking about the Denver Broncos. Everybody considers them a great deep. Dana Dimes is a master conqueror of the blitz off. Obviously, we learned that earlier today, but what other good D needs to be recognized? Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for everything. Db, Good D and bad D. Here we go.

[D]

Let's go. Let's get to it. We had Derwin James on yesterday, so we'll start with his team, his defense, his secondary had a great, great night on prime time. 15 pass defense, six TFLs, three takeaways, zero TDs allowed. And you know what they started. Fast pass. Let's get to the first pass of the game. Got a motion coming over. Free safety out of the middle field. Defense is on the stream.

[A]

Boom.

[D]

Great break. Great anticipation. And when you run to the ball, good things happen. Henley, the Power Ranger, had the flu game running to the ball game one tips and overthrows. You got to make them count. And that's kind of the theme of this week, those turnovers coming to add up. And you talk about turnovers coming in bunches. A lot of the times it's not all. All the time the first guy that gets there, but it's the second, third guy. Just look at all the white shirts around the ball. Down, in and down, out, pause. This is who. Yeah. If you go back and just after that tip is made, when that ball is in the air. I'm sure AJ has heard this a thousand times. Even the old line O line is always taught to run and chase the ball as well. But just look at that. That's the picture in the defensive room. You're counting guys on the first pass of the game. So you always talk about setting the tone as a defense. They set the tone. And Geno Smith never got comfortable this entire game.

[A]

Now at the end of this thing and pause, pause. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Obviously all the Chargers, everybody's in the frame. They are a swarming defense. They are relentless defense. The Derwin James stats, obviously crazy. Him playing D tackle and also playing deep safety is an insane thing. But like, they are a group that is all in. And the way you guys are talking about is they'll play zone, but it won't be a normal zone. They'll shift the man concept whenever it's in there. That's just understanding what each other are going to do more than anybody else.

[D]

And it's just. It's the opposite of what we talked about with the Steelers been on the tape. Like, you got to have trust. You got to have trusted. Because it's not like, hey, it's man to man. You get your guy, you get your guy. And even with man to man, you still have to have trust and understand where your help is. When you're playing a zone defense, when you're keeping an umbrella on things, it's very important that you're confident you're being accountable in your roll. If I got a hook curl, I'm inside out and I know that flat defender is coming outside in. And we should be vicing tackles. So every time A ball was thrown and caught. You saw even Genti. Genti had a couple great broken tackles, but you just saw another white shirt, Another white shirt, another white shirt. And guys on the offense, they get tired of taking those hits. Quarterbacks, their feet get happy. They stop. They stop taking their ass from downfield and start to look at the rush as opposed to. As opposed to feeling the rush. So it's great for this defense, especially when you don't have. Khalil Mack is still good, but they don't have, like, that Michael Parsons or T.J. watt or Max Crosby, one of Miles Garrett, one of those guys who just change the math every day. They do it as a team collectively.

[A]

Congrats to Charge.

[F]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

Hell, yeah.

[F]

Do you think it was a good idea on that play to block Khalil Mack with Ashton Genty? You think that was a good idea?

[D]

I don't think that's ever.

[F]

First pass play of the game.

[D]

Yeah, I don't think. I don't think that's ever good.

[F]

But he did a good job.

[D]

Yeah, he did a jack.

[F]

I don't know if that's the best design.

[D]

Yeah, the concept, I mean, especially with his own defense, everybody's kind of in this. You know, that's pretty easy, especially if you're post safety. Look at Geno's helmet. Like, the reason we have that stripe down the middle of the helmet. So coaches, when they're watching film, they can see where players are looking. That black stripe, it went right to that scene route. And if I'm a post safety, that this is literally the ball I want you to throw.

[A]

Oh, my God. He thought he had that crip. Yeah, he thought he had. That's awesome.

[D]

But, I mean, Chargers. Yeah. Yeah. You don't feel bad dropping a pick or bouncing one off if your guy gets up there and get one. So still a turnover. Great. Great job. And now this. So Liam Cohen, some people, a lot of Jacksonville Jaguar fans, I don't know how the overreactions were with Brian Thomas Jr. Had an unbelievable rookie season. And sometimes, you know, I don't know, if you start hearing footsteps, you have alligator arms. But as a defense, and this is a different game with player safety coming across the middle, you'll see alligator. You see, he. You know, Trevor Lawrence maybe throws a hospital ball here, but you'll see it much better from the back. Copy. You never want to be a football player on tape, you know, turning down contact, avoiding contact. You can see it bright as day right here. And once again, tips and overthrows the Theme post field safety, wide receiver tips it. You'll see so many times a db, a linebacker, a D lineman just drop this ball because they don't expect it or the trajectory has changed by getting tipped. But Jordan battle back to back weeks making great interceptions off of tips. But as a wide receiver, as a quarterback, first of all, you want to protect them. If you are going to throw that across the middle, put it low, protect them, let them go down and get it. But as a receiver, you don't want to be, you know, on tape putting this on tape because now every defense knows, hey, if seven comes across that field, whether it's a reroute, whether it's a hit, we want to hit him early and off often because we want him thinking. Because now this is what you are, who, what you put on tape. And I expect Brian Thomas to bounce back. I think Trevor Lawrence is a good quarterback. I like Liam Cohen, I love Thomas Jr. But, yeah, you don't want to be putting this on tape if you're the quarterback or the wide receiver.

[A]

Yeah, you said something about injury.

[B]

Yeah. Liam Cohen came out after the game because this, this has been the loudest thing for Jacksonville and said that Brian Thomas Jr. Went into the game. Yeah, there it is. With a ring wrist injury already. And that, that was, you know, part of the drop.

[D]

We don't give a. Yeah, I know Kelvin Shepard, you heard, if you do your job, don't be out there.

[A]

So, yeah, that's a tough look for him for sure. Great pick, though. There's no way that he thought that ball was getting through like that.

[D]

You got to make that count. You got to make those counts because these turnovers add up this game, especially with their quarterback turning the ball over the way he did. When you can get it back against your offense, great reaction you can get Jamar Chase, Jason T. Higgins, you know, more opportunities in offense.

[A]

He was on the ground. Wow, what a play. All right, that's good for Cincinnati, that's tough for the Jaguars, but they're going to get better. Yeah, they will get better.

[D]

They will. And I expect the Eagles to continue to get better. They got some young players in the secondary, kind of seems like they always do. But Makuba, the safety, rookie safety, he's a post. If you pause it right or he actually get circle right now we got Travis Kelsey. I don't know what you guys used to call this route. A.J. we used to call it Zampisi, but it's kind of like the follow route. Number three goes across, number two goes out and then comes back in. Everybody runs it in some form or fashion. This is a staple in the west coast type of offense. Travis Kelsey, I don't know how many touchdowns and first downs he has from this route. Mahomes anticipates it, puts a good ball on him. But Makuba, great eyes going to that second guy. Boom. Tips and overthrows. Running to the ball and not only catching the interception, but setting your offense up. Offense has been getting explosive plays. Hasn't been doing this, hasn't been doing it. And pause on that side. Go back to the wide copy real quick. I want to see the end of that because we always talk about. One of the things Shane Steichen said too is the biggest difference of this year's team and teams in the past is the camaraderie, the brotherhood. And you can see it on the sideline, you see it during TV copies. But when this rookie gets tackled, you just see that whole line of white shirts just converging on him. You don't see guys buckling up and talk. We're all converging. I'm going to congratulate young boy and then everybody kind of go where they need to be. That's what you want to see. If you're a fan of this team, if you're a player for this team, if you're a coach of this team.

[A]

That'S offensive coaches, that's offensive players, that's everybody on the team celebrating him right there. That's good vibe.

[B]

That's a rookie.

[D]

It's a rookie.

[A]

Hey, that's Sirianni football, by the way.

[B]

That's right. Hell of a play by Josh Simmons too. I keep pointing out right away, but that, I mean, maybe Hollywood Brown catches him 71.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

You wearing number 71 and catching somebody that far down the field an hour.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Watch his momentum. Jesus, he's.

[H]

He's running so fast and he's so big. After he makes this awesome tackle, he. He goes backward like does a backflip because he's going so quick. Like his momentum takes him so far.

[A]

Sliding out.

[D]

That's impressive.

[A]

Yeah. Unbelievable. Never want to be in that position, obviously.

[C]

Right.

[A]

But geez. And Travis Kelce never gonna die again. We've heard. Yeah, that's what we think.

[D]

And Mc Co, he will hear about.

[A]

That from the boys offensive line.

[D]

Walk down by. Let me pause that. Who's that? 71?

[A]

Is that. Is that number seven? That caught you. No, there's a one on there.

[C]

Oh no.

[B]

What? 17. He had a good.

[H]

He had a Great angle he did exciting whites.

[A]

Have you guys ever been caught? What a moment.

[D]

Cooper to Z had a great reroute in this game too. We'll make the tape but. But great reroute. Put a guy on the ground which is tough to do in the NFL. Sticking with kind of the rookie theme. Billy Bowman Jr. Playing a slot for them, he's been phenomenal. But the Falcons in their front office, they did a great job bringing these young guys in this year. The two guys off the edge, James Pierce Jr. Jalen Walker, they've been playing great. Then Billy Bowman Jr. And Xavier Watts on the back end have been playing great as well. This is first two games in the league playing in that slot. It's tough to do as a young player, as any player, but especially a young player. 9 targets, 5 catches allowed 6.2 yards. Perception 34 passer rating, 0 TDs in a pick. And this was a beautiful pick by him. Pre snap you're going to get some motion. Young quarterback offense, boom. Comes out, squares up, gets there. Watch the break out route. Eyes break and then make a great catch at the top to catch that roll over top. Obviously rolled out of bounce. But this is is great from start to finish. Pre snap and post snap been on the same page. That is a tough route to stop from a stationary position, let alone the guy running and using that momentum and breaking outside. Just an unbelievable play by unbelievable player. A young player at that.

[A]

Big time ball from Billy Falcons offensive line. Top five offensive line. Now we got this on everything. Db, good D, bad D. Well as good D. Wait a minute. Atlanta Falcons down the NFC South.

[C]

You nailed it.

[F]

I mean those four rookies are playing awesome.

[D]

Yes.

[F]

The two edge guys are incredible. And then I think both had. Yeah, Watts had a pick in this game.

[D]

Yeah. One late on the another overthrow. So this wasn't a tip or an overthrow. The last one from Watts was an overthrow. Maybe just Jefferson got grabbed a little bit but whatever they didn't call it big time catch and they're playing good ball. So even when they aren't making the plays of PBU or interception or sack like you turn on the tape, it would be hard for someone to believe that these are four rookies playing their first two games in the NFL. Unbelievable play by this guy.

[A]

Can we go back to the sideline shot there? I think Rahim Morris is that his. He has the joggers on. Pulled up with the J's down. He looks very cool. That's head coach Swag on the sideline. That's him right there. I believe J's on.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah, that's it. That, that's, that's a great look, especially because I got the Cavs. You play the next one. I think the side shot has a better shot of him. Sell. Look at him right there in the middle of it. Yep. Well, that's ours. That's ours. That's ours. No way he caught that. Did he catch that? Yes, he did.

[D]

Unreal.

[A]

Yes, he did. Yes, he did catch that there. Yeah. Off his face.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Jason McCarthy, we saw it at the Rose Bowl. He almost had a. He would have had an interception, but he threw the football 100 miles an hour, so the guy couldn't catch it. It was. It was awesome.

[A]

Congrats, Elena. Foul. Falcons. You really have a team. Go ahead.

[D]

D5 trending in the right direction and someone else trending in the right direction. Another team that made the in the trenches. Now, when you talk about bad D, this is just inexplicable. Like, you got one of the fastest guys in the NFL. He's going to end up in a cut split in the slot. Right now you got a corner and a safety. You, you, you, you. Like. I don't know. I know you got the crosser that kind of took Kevin Byer. I don't. I couldn't even tell you what coverage they were in, what they were trying to do. But one thing, you know, coming into the game and look, the Lions, that's jmo, they're just.

[A]

Yeah. And the Lions, look, they got all he does.

[D]

That's literally what he gimmick.

[A]

Two catches for 108 yards for JMO. Boom.

[D]

So that's his gimmick. So, you know, game record wise, it's going to be a long list with the Lions. You got St. Brown, it's going to start there. Then you got Gibbs in the run game, even Montgomery.

[A]

Maybe.

[D]

But number one, you always have to be aware this guy. You know, teams love taking shots when around midfield in the alumni section. But number one, you got to be there. Just. I. I don't get it on the back end. This is as bad as it gets when you get to defense so early.

[A]

In the year, miscommunications are going to happen. You move forward now, I.

[B]

That's preseason football.

[A]

Exactly. Exactly. It's week two. Yeah. They got a lot of football left to play there. That's tough, though, that stuff, especially just because. And obviously I've never been on the field, on defensive side of the ball, so I have no idea about a Lot of shit. But I have it in the meetings and it's like number one there was certainly showed very large like very like a picture of them probably. And then it probably just very bold words and very simple message. Real fast deep ball. That's probably what it said. If I guess here is the message that you need to know about number one one. Here's the scouting report. When he is on the field, we're go. He's going deep. Like that is what he does. There's been a couple other guys throughout the history that is similar. He's obviously had a lot of success here early and did in college as well. And I remember him playing with like a broken leg or something like that in college. He's incredibly tough. But to not to just it. Yeah, that's. That's not good. I don't know.

[C]

An interesting move.

[D]

I mean.

[B]

Yeah, that.

[D]

That's. That's why this is this. This the ups and downs I guess in that National Football League a couple weeks ago against JJ McCarthy he had a pick six, you know on prime time Garden Justin Jefferson. Then this week you are on bad D. But this is tough. You got to figure it out. The Bears will miss Jalen Johnson, but I don't expect that from a Dennis Allen Coach defense. That's wild.

[A]

Good luck to the Bears.

[B]

Yeah, Chicago.

[A]

J O's fast. Oh just know next time you play him because you are going to play him again. He's. He's probably something.

[B]

He's fast.

[A]

Coach Pagano's game planning for J ammo right now. Yeah. Ravens on Monday. Oh no. I don't know what the they were doing in Chicago.

[B]

That's why I got the hell out of there.

[A]

Chuck's showing that clip. Yeah. Okay.

[B]

Jesus Christ.

[A]

What are we doing? What do you think this. His name's Jamo. What the do you think Jamo? Deep ball. Okay, let's look what the Bears do.

[B]

You see the number ones?

[A]

That.

[B]

That's the route he's gonna run.

[D]

He's gonna run.

[F]

He's gonna run straight just like the number ones.

[A]

Try Bears to figure it out. And obviously we are staring from a actual probably 200 foot view here or 50 foot view. Whatever. It is much easier up here than it is on the ground. But that seems bad. It's week two though. Football. Week two football.

[D]

Yeah, week two football. And you got your backup playing with Mac Jones in here. But he. He was spinning it. He was figuring out this is a big down. Third and 11 up five points right here. Now these two guys are highlighting this is cover two. But if we rewind it a little bit. So third and 11. I'm not a big fan of like an overdramatic disguise if you're playing a too high defense because if you are that deep safety, you don't want your disguise to kind of mess up you actually getting your job done. So right here you'll have the left side deep half safety and he's about what, seven yards off on the hash down here. You let it run. So he now on the snap, he's trying to haul ass to get to his depth. You got three receivers over there, so pause, two guys run short. So now you only have one guy deep. Some defenses, the middle linebacker, that circle that, that run through. I don't know how you guys play AJ but you have Tampa too. He would run with number three vertical to the passing strength and continue to carry him some defenses. If number two and number one, which are these two short receivers outside, if they sit down, that'll tell that run through defender that they can shut it down.

[A]

Why?

[D]

Because I have two deep safeties behind me. And now they can converge on the deeper routes because there's not as many of them. They don't have that same stress on them in any regard. The job does not get done. But it's not that route that hurts him down here to the front side. It's the route coming from the backside. Jennings right over the top of the defender, he catches it. And because of that disguise, in my opinion, because of that disguise pre snap, that safety never got in a good position to play his response responsibility correctly. So even if this throw is made, it's a throwing catch at worst. As a safety, it's in the definition of your position. You get them down on the ground, you line up again and it's, you know, first and 10 from the 12 yard line. But instead it's a big touchdown. They go up the game, obviously they never look back. But this is a big time throw by Mack Jones. Reading it, seeing it and I think defensively not being in position pre snap kind of set him up for failure. And yet, yes, great game by Mac Jones. I know there are some rumors in the Internet that probably started in the Thunderdome. Brock Purdy will be the quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. But when you have a guy in there playing, this is about, you know, being ready for your opportunity, showing up and showing out. And that's what Mac Jones did.

[A]

We just hypotheticals just talking here, just talking about maybe predictive markets out Here, you know, we're just trying to project what the future potentially looks like in this whole thing. But Mac Jones throwing seeds like that, obviously we all expected that was gonna happen. And the Saints. Exactly. He said if you were to put. Oh, we didn't bring that up. Call him. Can you call him back? Because he should take a little bit of a victory lap.

[B]

I'm surprised he didn't.

[C]

Me too.

[B]

He just pats himself on the back.

[C]

He's probably got a big one planned for this afternoon.

[A]

A big pat on the back.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

A huge. It'll be a full breakdown with an iPad. Pat on the back. They will actually try to go to the back to get more hands so they can give a bigger pat on the back. More pats on the back. Yep.

[B]

There's a chance he can't pick up, though, because he's got to figure out something else that someone else already said. But he says that he's the first to say it.

[A]

Yeah, but J.J. watt said that he was the first one to say what Dano said, that he said first. So Dano actually kind of got cucked seemingly twice here with ideas that he had right in front of his eyes. Who knows what people outside of just this show have said before?

[D]

He has said it's kind of wild cuz, like, it's a lot of football guys out there. Like, a lot of guys sat through meetings, been in meetings, and we're being told the same.

[B]

So people watch the film.

[A]

You.

[D]

You have stack guys that, you know, the picture starts to come together.

[A]

But Dano. Dano. Dano joins us. Dan. Holy. Maybe he should be eating Brad. You know what I mean? Maybe the vanity is paying off in the mornings. Beating the shit out of your body so you can operate. Hey, we didn't give you an opportunity to celebrate the Mac Jones to the Shanahan offense thing because you did to us and we buried you. So we would like to provide you a moment to go ahead and have your moment of victory.

[G]

It's good. No, I appreciate that. We'll see how this week goes. But I always believed in Mac in San Francisco, man.

[A]

I was right.

[G]

No big deal.

[A]

Go.

[D]

What you think about this play? This. Him beating his cover too, right here. Juan Jenn.

[B]

Oh, you haven't seen.

[G]

Oh, this. The good ball to Jennings.

[A]

That ball's early.

[G]

That B ball is early. You know, dude, I mean, that's his strength, D. But you know that. I mean, anticipation. The. The ball to McAffrey for the. That throws sick. The ball to McAffrey. For the touchdown is really good too. Like, it's good design. That ball gets cut loose, man.

[A]

Yeah. Maybe put all info live something. Think about this. You know that.

[D]

You know that looks like.

[A]

Who's it look like?

[G]

No, that.

[A]

That look like. Who are you going to say? Because you've called people Tom Brady. And then maybe you're going to say Brock Pie or. Who are you going to say?

[G]

I mean, it looks a lot like Brock Purdy.

[A]

Yeah, but this is the victory lap. Yeah, we. That to get to that. Yeah. Okay. Got it.

[G]

I mean, the real.

[A]

The real.

[B]

The real love.

[G]

McAffrey's been insane, but Mack played very good.

[A]

Very good. Okay. Sick.

[G]

Well, we're appreciating he's perfect for that offense.

[B]

Go call him Bill and Brady then, you fucking asshole.

[A]

Tell. Hold on, though, before you. Hey, jj, I don't know if you heard what JJ Watts said. Did you hear that?

[G]

I did, and I sent it to multiple people.

[A]

What? You're saying that. Hey, JJ said. He already said this. I don't have any ideas today. And nobody else has had. Is that what you said?

[G]

Oh, J.J. didn't say he already said it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You missed that clip. Yeah, he did your whole thing on Sunday during the game.

[B]

Gotta add that to the film right now.

[A]

Maybe you should listen to what he said and then maybe you say, you know what? I want to echo JJ's kind of sentiment here. You know, that'd be cool.

[G]

Wait, JJ said it during their game?

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Two tight ends. The whole thing. Yeah, he did the whole thing, man.

[C]

He said he did it while talking about McVeigh's offense.

[B]

Yeah.

[F]

Under center.

[A]

Back to the drawing board, brother.

[F]

Under center, throws.

[B]

He saw that, Dan, you copycat.

[A]

No, I didn't see. Can we call jj? Actually, I didn't see it.

[G]

I'm just saying, like, that's the. That's. That's the. That's like that. That's the model.

[C]

I see it, bro.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sorry, big bro.

[A]

Okay. Hold on. We don't know. Hold on. Let me see if he'll answer this. Hold on, though. You guys should at least talk this out a little bit, just to see if. Yes. Maybe collab on ideas.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Might be able to unlock the secrets to the universe in there.

[A]

He might be also talking to the espanol boys. It could be. Could be. Everybody put in your airpods. I'm not going to speak your language, but they can. Hey, you're not talking to espanol. Okay. Hey, we're still alive. Dan Orlofsky's on. We just broke the news to him that he did not come up with his genius idea. But two tight ends under center. You talked about it during the game. Is there any other things or ideas that you have that maybe Dano can claim? No.

[E]

I mean, the Rams are obviously always ahead of the curve on anything, Dan, so I'm sure you've seen their three, five and seven step drop from under center.

[G]

He's all over it.

[A]

He's all over it. He's all over it.

[G]

Here's the only team he. They're the only team in the NFL that's put on the court, quarterback, underneath, center, drop back.

[A]

He's all over it. They're all over it, man. Yeah. This is his entire take. This was his thing he was about to do. Live.

[D]

This must be what happens when you.

[G]

Work with the ano, man, the whole NFL.

[B]

Yeah. It's all equal.

[E]

Everything's going to be under center. You have to be able to have the multiplicity and the option to do whatever you want. And that was what was really interesting talking to Sean McVey is he said that last bit piece of our under center offense that you didn't have to plan for before was the drop back pass. And so now we're adding that element in so basically they can run their entire offense out of under center.

[A]

Thank you, jk. We appreciate you making football better. Thank you for your brain. Thank you for everything, for you're doing for us for football. See you, buddy.

[B]

Talk about a guy who knows.

[A]

Wow, Dan, he's on it. He got it.

[C]

Beat you to it.

[B]

Too slow.

[A]

Maybe you should say.

[G]

Let's not say.

[A]

Let's not.

[D]

Let's not say beat you to it.

[A]

I mean, let's not.

[B]

Let's not say that Snorlovsky.

[A]

He did, though. Snooze, you lose. Yeah, Yeah, a little bit.

[G]

Been talking about it.

[A]

No, no, we haven't heard it.

[B]

No, you haven't.

[A]

You haven't heard it.

[G]

I got open ears.

[A]

Okay. All right. We appreciate you, Dan. Good luck. Maybe just say as JJ said and then you can get into your whole thing, do a virtual reality thing about it. Maybe have JJ come in the virtual reality. Oh, actually, Dano, I said this. Yeah. That could be a whole thing.

[B]

Or you could break his ankles.

[A]

Oh, Carson Wentz. Maybe break both of your ankles.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Something to think about. All right. We appreciate you, Dan. Good luck out there. Thank you, Daniel. What? His eyes and JJ was going three, five, seven, step. Oh, my God.

[B]

He's all over it. He's over it. Oh, my God. That was awesome.

[H]

Sounds like Jade's got some good info from their production meeting.

[A]

Yeah. Sounds like Sean McVeigh actually gave him a little bit of game. Now with his planar fascia being torn, will he still be like that in those meetings? We do wonder. Sean McVeigh in great shape, still runs routes, is what everybody says. That's right. And that's how precious everything can be. One day you're standing there running routes with the boys, lifting with wit in that one gym, the village or whatever. Then the next day, your coach on the sideline, you tear your plantar fascia. Okay. And now your whole life is different. That sucks. Yeah.

[B]

Tough.

[A]

I've never had it, but I've seen people deal with it. Your foot's part of everything. Your foot's. Foot's part of everything. You know, it's like when you get an ankle.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like a part of everything. Toe even get a. The worst 12 weeks.

[C]

Joe Burrow.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Three months.

[A]

Foot's good, said McVeigh. I did. I did tear my planar fascia. I said, yeah, well, that's a good thing because I guess it allows you to heal a little faster. But I was being dramatic, limping around towards the end of the game. But the MRI confirmed I. I did hurt myself because there's a lot of people telling him, jeez, are you okay? I mean, you look terrible. Good news is I'm not playing. I'm just on the sidelines watching, watching. So I have a little cool limp to add some swag. Then you'll know why he said a little dramatic. That's because somebody talks to him. Yeah. And then he went and got the mri. Yeah. Oh, really? Brought it in.

[H]

Brought in the film.

[B]

Told you.

[A]

Well, McVeigh. Hey, way to tough it out.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

That's not fun. That planet fascia sucks. All right. Telling. Why don't you come over here, brother? Good day today.

[B]

Great day.

[A]

Yeah. A lot of segs. Yeah.

[C]

A lot of sex.

[B]

We got a game tomorrow night. Now back into it.

[A]

We made it week three.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Good game tomorrow.

[A]

Who is it?

[C]

Bill's Dolphins.

[A]

Really?

[D]

It would be good.

[H]

What's the line that one?

[A]

12 and a half.

[B]

Stop it. This week for Thursday night football.

[A]

What's that, bud? We're getting off this week for Thursday night football. He said off night sleep. We can just go to bed and not have to worry about it.

[B]

I love the fins at 12 and a half.

[A]

Yeah. Bills.

[C]

Bills.

[A]

I don't think Josh Allen's ever Covered as a fit favorite of more than 10 points. Yeah, this is a different Dolphins team. A bill is 11 and a half. You like it or just 12 and a half?

[B]

I like 11 and a half. Touchdown on the field goal. Anything over 10 and a half.

[A]

I'll tell you what, I didn't see the field as well last week as I did the first week, but my brain has nothing positive about the Dolphins. Sure. Even quotes coming out of the quarterback Debone. Now that we have a Bills diehard fan part of the group text. We see everything that's coming out. Allegedly bleach report reported that Tua said, I can't do half what he does.

[B]

Yeah. There's a video of it.

[A]

It happened now out of context, obviously. It sounds like something he's probably going to say that I'm a different quarterback than Josh Allen does. Is Josh Allen's the MVP of the league, though. And all Dolphins fans go, we need. We might think that. You can't be thinking, you know. Yeah, we. We can't. We. You. You can't be thinking. We might be able to think that at times. We can't have you thinking that. It's just. And I like Tua. I appreciate Tua. I like McDaniel. I like a lot of the shit, you know, that revolves around Miami. But just like nothing is positive in my mind coming out of Miami.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

Nothing. And I assume there, that could all change. Okay, you have one big game. You have one good game. You know, everything can kind of flip. Aura can flip. That's a very negative. Very negative. I mean, insanely. Is that just because we're around gumpy? You think A.J. you're not around Gumpy every single day. Do you think that's just why it is like that?

[D]

I don't know.

[H]

It's weird. But they. It is a great opportunity for them to turn their season around if they do beat the Bills, which nobody's given them a chance. And here we go now. It's a little spark that we need.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[H]

What happened now the question is, can they beat them? Can they beat them?

[A]

I heard Debone just sent a text into the group prime time.

[D]

They could do it.

[H]

I know which way I'm leaning.

[A]

All right, well, we'll figure that out tomorrow.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, it's going to get real bad if the Chargers continue to go, because that's when people will come back and be like, the Dolphins could have had Justin Herbert. And they haven't really gotten there yet. And I know it. It had worked out at one Point for both teams. And it was a situation where like, hey, either guy you're good with. But if Herbert does end up going, that is going to come back around and the Dolphins will get for it. And there are a ton of teams that do that every single year. Yeah, yeah. Like that's not like a Miami thing. But I'm just saying you can kind of see that on the horizon from Fins up nation.

[A]

And Gumby's been fighting it for a while. He knows it's coming. Oh, everybody's so fucking smarter. There was a lot of people saying.

[C]

To take Herbert before Tuo.

[A]

Before that draft. I remember.

[B]

Yeah, there weren't. Herbert was the guy that was like, this guy's just a smart guy from Oregon.

[A]

He. He won the.

[B]

He won the. The. The smart Heisman, not the football hus.

[A]

Well then Tom Tesco came out. Who's GM of the Chargers. He was like, yeah, whoever the Dolphins took, we're just gonna take the other guy. So he was like, completely. Yeah, I'm cool with both guys. Revisionist history, whatever the hell you.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[D]

Herbert at one point he was like, okay, this is the prince who was promised the number one pick. And then it was, oh, we're tanking for tour. The league wide tank for tour for sure. So yeah, I get. But I mean, he did have some big injuries coming in.

[A]

All right, if this goes in. Dolphins beat the Bills. Here we go.

[D]

Here we go.

[A]

Gumpy. What do you. What was that? Gumpy did a full. Look, look, I'm gonna. I'm gonna do. I'm gonna throw on my Dolphin start tomorrow and I'm gonna have hope for whatever, however long it is.

[C]

5 minutes, 10 minutes. You hit this shot.

[A]

First quarter. Look, I'm gonna strap up for game day. You hit this shot, you know I'm gonna believe. I'm gonna do it all over and over again, cuz that's what I do. You know, it's just. It is what it is.

[C]

We're terrible at football.

[B]

Part of the dream.

[A]

Hey, if I make this, the Dolphins are going to win. Gumpy. Oh no. Now I got to act like I care if this thing goes in. It's going in. Gumps.

[B]

You got this.

[A]

It's for the Dolphins. I really tried. Oh, I was close. I went to university.

[F]

Yeah, good line.

[B]

Now you can do the Bill Bills.

[A]

This one goes in. Colts win the Super. I did the Steelers win the Super Bowl.

[B]

Yeah, no, do the. Do the Bills to win tomorrow now.

[A]

All right. No. Cuz then the universe isn't talking. Maybe the universe is not here.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We'll find out right now. Find out right now. We'll find out right now. If the universe is listening, it's for the Bills.

[C]

Oh, sounds like the universe really wants the bill.

[A]

Right now. We. Oh, I think that other ball went out situation. The universe counts it. Universe counts it.

[B]

Wait, what's this for?

[A]

Good call.

[F]

This is incredible. I haven't touched a back door in 15 weeks.

[B]

This guy's on it. Yeah.

[A]

Fourth down. Quarterback brother. Okay, so this one's for the Colts.

[B]

Super Bowl.

[A]

Super Bowl. Okay. I already did a Steeler Super bowl bowl, though. So that would kind of be.

[B]

Did they win the Super Bowl? Did they make it on that?

[A]

Well, that would be this year.

[F]

You can flush that one down the toilet.

[A]

Okay. Three guys want a big game that first week.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I have eyes. It's done. Oh, no. Week three.

[B]

It's done. Yes.

[A]

Were we putting over unders on how many weeks did the Steelers believe? No. We should have been through week three. I think we were pretty early. Yeah. Especially to beat the Jets. Now they lose to the Jets. I think he said that everybody was going to be out week two. Yeah.

[C]

Right.

[A]

Beat the jets though. Now we're still at week three going that teammate doing it.

[B]

I have an argument that I'm thinking in my head that I. I think.

[A]

Your team not being able to stop the run is the worst thing that.

[B]

You could be a fan of.

[C]

I agree.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yes. Because you're just soft is what what everybody says.

[B]

And you're on defense a ton like, then you're just watching.

[A]

Your team are quick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Cuz the ball is just moving right down there. Not a lot of possessions.

[D]

Demoralizing.

[C]

Have to score on every possession. If you don't, if you punt once, you are going to lose.

[A]

This one's for the Steelers to stop the run. Boom. Okay. Okay. For the good of Pittsburgh. Lot of pressure. Oh.

[D]

Turner. Run defense.

[A]

Yeah. All right. Okay. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Congrats to Steelers.

[B]

Thanks a lot.

[A]

Small too. We didn't know what you first heard.

[C]

Good point.

[A]

So it could be Colt super bowl or the Steelers. Run game. Run defense. So we'll see. I guess we'll see Sunday.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes, we will. Guess who will against who.

[B]

New England, baby.

[A]

What's Bravel going to try to do this?

[B]

Punching dicks.

[A]

Okay. All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Winston. Yeah. The team. Mommy. Great work today, aq. Great work this week. We'll see you all tomorrow. We're gonna sing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team, goodbye. This isn't just another ESPN Fantasy football season.

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