PMS 2.0 1411 - TNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Nebraska Head Coach Matt Rhule, Mike McCarthy, & AJ Hawk

Summary

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 Ep. 1411 (Sep 18, 2025)

Main Theme:
A high-energy preview of NFL Week 3, headlined by the Dolphins vs. Bills Thursday Night Football (TNF) matchup, with deep dives into sports betting trends, quarterback injuries, coaching hot seats (esp. Dolphins), and expert interviews with Adam Schefter, Nebraska HC Matt Rhule, and Mike McCarthy. Throughout, the panel mixes serious insight with their classic humor, the heartbreak of fandom, and the sheer unpredictability of the league.

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Key Segments & Topics

1. Opening & AFC East TNF Preview (00:00–13:00)

• Hosts: Pat McAfee, Tone Digs, Ty Schmidt, Connor Rogers, Gumpy, Tony Reali

• Preview: Miami Dolphins (0-2) at Buffalo Bills.

  • Dolphins are huge underdogs (+11.5 to +12.5).
  • Bills have won 11 of last 12 vs. Miami.
  • Dolphins “backs against the wall” narrative: historic 0-2 underdogs in Week 3 are 37-17 against the spread.
  • Panel debates whether Miami can “show pride” and cover, if this is do-or-die for McDaniel, Tua, Tyreek, et al.

  Notable quote:

  • “Wounded teams, teams that are backed in a corner, normally cover a spread for us... Eleven and a half. Twelve and a half feels like a lot of points for a Thursday night game, especially a division game.”
    — Pat McAfee (01:30)

  • Gumpy (Dolphins fan) on hope: “Show some damn pride. Don’t lose by more than 12 and a half. Come on, boys.” (07:43)

  • Connor Rogers on Miami’s peril: “If they lose by 50 tonight, there needs to be some conversations potentially had... That seat’s getting blistering hot down there on the butt cheeks of McDaniel.” (10:14, 09:32)

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2. Injury Updates & NFL Insider Talk (Adam Schefter, 12:52–35:48)

• Adam Schefter Interview

  • Debates if Dolphins are “done,” injury situation across QBs (Purdy, Burrow, Fields, J.J. McCarthy, etc.).
  • The “Week 3 as a must-win” effect: 0-3 teams almost never make playoffs.
  • Dynamics of backup QBs: “Jake Browning and Carson Wentz in Week 3 feels like a Week 17/18 matchup.”
  • Deep dives: Vikings with Carson Wentz, Bears’ Caleb Williams/Ben Johnson dynamic, Chiefs’ 0-2 panic meter, Tom Brady controversy (owner in booth).
  • Run-down of Dolphins/Bills key injuries: Storm Duck out for Dolphins’ already decimated secondary; Bills missing Ed Oliver, Matt Milano. Jalen Waddle questionable.

  Notable quotes:

  • On Dolphins: “They don’t have the horses to match up. Tua himself said he’s half the quarterback that Josh Allen is this week. That was an interesting comment.” — Adam Schefter (14:28)
  • On Tom Brady-in-the-booth debate: “He’s a limited partner in the team. If he wants to go sit in the booth with headphones and offer cold plays, go do what he wants to do. It’s his team.” (28:23)
  • On Chiefs’ 0-2 start: “118 teams started 0-3 since 2000; only one made the playoffs. The Chiefs’ margin for error is gone.” (33:08)
  • On Bears: “He has a lower completion percentage this season than last. Ben Johnson’s talking about practice through the media—sometimes you have to.” (25:09)

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3. College Football Block: Michigan vs Nebraska & Matt Rhule Interview (35:53–56:51)

• Hype for "Bussin Bowl": Michigan @ Nebraska — higher stakes than ever (coach hair-shaving bet, $50k charity).

• Matt Rhule (Nebraska HC) Interview Highlights:

  • Anticipation for Michigan: “This is an excellent football team coming in... We think we have a pretty good team, so expecting a heck of a game.” (40:42)
  • Honoring boxer Bud Crawford’s influence on Huskers.
  • QB development, team culture/leadership, and thoughts on the transfer portal moving from 2 windows to 1.

  Notable moment:

  • “Playoff eliminators every week in the Big Ten... There’s really good teams up and down this conference.” — Matt Rhule (52:07)

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4. Post-Schefter/NFL Panel Discussion (60:15–68:51)

• AJ Hawk joins remotely; focus shifts back to Dolphins’ franchise despair and Gumpy’s heartbreak.

  • Pat reflects on how McDaniel/Tyreek/Tua era hype has fizzled, ties to earlier Dolphins fan betrayals (Brian Flores alleged tanking scandal, etc.).
  • Panel laments: Is Miami headed for “total rebuild” if blown out?
  • Debate: When did it go wrong? Last year’s collapse, Tua’s diminishing record, fanbase unity in frustration.

  Notable quote:

  • “The whole fanbase, all of them are pissed. This is the first time I can remember. Usually some love, some hate Tua — now everyone’s pissed.” — Gumpy (68:12)

  • “He’s finally made it to Cuck Mountain.” — Pat McAfee on Tua, referencing fan anger memes (68:50)

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5. WWE x ESPN Breaking News (70:34–75:10)

• ESPN and WWE partnership launches with "Russell Palooza" in Indianapolis; John Cena vs. Brock Lesnar to kick off event live.
  • “That fight will be taking place at the top of the show. Must-watch. Show-stealing. Talked about for generations.” — Pat (73:02)

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6. Mike McCarthy Interview: Coaching Insights & Backup QBs (75:17–95:14)

• TNF preview: “I definitely think this is a favorable game for Buffalo, but that’s a lot of points.”
• Defending Josh Allen: “He can make any throw... extending plays is a tough task.”
• Locker room motivation stories; “Gallagher” watermelon-smashing anecdote.
• Why division games are always close, regardless of personnel turnover.
• The critical role of confident backup QBs, historical anecdotes (Hasselbeck, Gannon, etc.).
• On COVID-era player development: “The time clocks on development can be a little skewed...” (97:53)

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7. Extended Panel: QB Evaluation, Drafting, More NFL Talk (100:01–116:08)

• Why is it so hard to scout college QBs? McCarthy: Physical tools are easier to measure; “it’s really the emotional development.”
• Chemistry matters: “When the boys like each other, teams are great.”
• COVID impact on development — discussion about Trevor Lawrence/2021 draft class being an outlier.

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8. Final TNF Picks & Analysis (123:14–133:53)

• Betting segment: All pick Bills to win and cover -11.5/+12.5, citing Miami’s injuries, negative trends, Buffalo’s high chemistry.
  • Gumpy, loyal to the end, pleads: “You gotta show up tonight. If you get killed tonight, it’s Jover.” (118:11)
  • Ty Schmidt: “I think it’s very likely the Bills win by at least two touchdowns.” (125:36)
• Deep dive into first quarter lines, public betting percentages (~72% Bills), what Miami must do for hope.
• Closing call: All eyes on the Dolphins for a moral-victory fight, recognition of Gumpy’s emotional Dolphins fandom.

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Timestamps of Key Segments

• 00:00–13:00: Dolphins-Bills TNF preview, betting trends
• 12:52–35:48: Adam Schefter NFL insider segment
• 35:53–56:51: Nebraska coach Matt Rhule interview, CFB talk
• 60:15–68:51: Miami Dolphins despair/Fandom pain discussion
• 70:34–75:10: WWE/ESPN partnership breaking news
• 75:17–95:14: Mike McCarthy interview (NFL coaching, QBs, TNF)
• 100:01–116:08: QB scouting, team chemistry, COVID ramifications
• 123:14–133:53: Final TNF picks, betting discussion, conclusion

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Memorable Quotes

• “Tonight could be career-saving nights... for Tua, for McDaniel. Maybe even for Tyreek.” — Pat McAfee (63:34)
• “With how paranoid all NFL teams are... this is a perfect storyline for some real conspiracy fodder.” — Pat McAfee, on Tom Brady/owner/booth drama (31:06)
• “Division games are always tight... there’s nothing like them. Just the competitive spirit is always high.” — Mike McCarthy (80:47)
• “The only thing that stops all that [noise] is a W. That’s it. If they don’t win, the noise increases.” — Adam Schefter (25:32)
• “Tonight we fight, fight, fight, fight with all our might.” — Pat McAfee, rallying Dolphins fans (119:17)

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Podcast Tone & Style

• Signature McAfee blend: serious X’s and O’s, real emotion, fast-paced humor, inside jokes, and raw fandom.
• Candid, jargon-rich, playful banter with sharp turns to deep football analysis.
• Quotes and discussion sections show the camaraderie, pain, optimism, and lived experience of sports and sports media.

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Summary Useful for Fans Who Missed the Show:

• If you want in-depth TNF preview (Dolphins vs. Bills), historical betting trends, real time injury intel, and expert viewpoints (Schefter, Rhule, McCarthy)—plus unfiltered Dolphins fan pain and locker-room stories—this episode is a quintessential Pat McAfee Show: equal parts sportsbook, therapist’s chair, comedy hour, and NFL war room.
• Notable moments include real worry for the Dolphins’ direction, exclusive takes on QB injury chaos, and a high-profile WWE/ESPN event announcement.
• For fans of both NFL and college football, the episode lays out the emotional and practical stakes as Week 3 begins—with plenty of laughs and betting advice along the way.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the ThunderDome. On this NFL Week 3 kickoff Thursday, September 18, 2025. This program begins now. Football is the greatest sport of all time. And week three of the greatest league on earth will kick off its wonderful weekend tonight in the AFC east as the Miami Dolphins will travel to take on the Buffalo Bills. The bill is 11 1/2 point favorites at ESPN. Bet you can find them as 12.5 point favorites at a couple of the books. The dolphins, a wounded, wounded. They're a mammal. Yeah, yeah. Wounded mammal. Big brain. Big, huge brain. We appreciate dolphins, the mammals, they do like to reproduce and even if they don't have a chance of reproducing, they will certainly hit that thing on your arm or your body if you're in there swimming with them. But they got big brains, okay? I believe the Navy seals actually use them to circle our ships out there and they protect us. So we appreciate the dolphins, the mammal. And I'm pumped that Ace Ventura was able to find that, that snowflake, the dolphin who was able to kick field goals because that's a wonderful thing. But whenever you think about this Dolphins team of now, you do kind of think about the Ray Finkel era of the Miami Dolphins. You think about the 1972 dolphins and how they were undefeated. You think about Dan Marino in the run that he had, but he was never able to win a Super Bowl. But at some point this Miami Dolphins team is going to be legendary. They reset the market for wide receivers when they brought Tyreek Hill in. Tua Tongovailoa is an absolute star. He's going to change it all. McDaniel, this big brained offensive guru wakes up at three. That's right. This guy loves ball. Obviously. Everywhere he's been, he's been successful and he's unique to himself. He's obviously one of one. We've never seen a head coach like him before. The Miami Dolphins were going to return to their glory days post Brian Flores head coaching run there, which has resurfaced, it has into the news cycle here as of today. But this was supposed to be a great run. And now we sit here three years into the experiment, Tyree Kill potentially not going to be a Dolphin by the end of the year to a Tongvaloa potentially not being a guy. And McDaniel, the conversation is, is this guy a good head coach? Well, we got a fun little stat for you as the dolphins are 02 traveling to take on the Buffalo Bills as anywhere from 11 and a half to 12 and a half point dogs. NFL teams that are 02 and are dogs in week three have gone 37 in 17 against the spread. Wounded teams, teams that are backed in a corner normally cover a spread for us. Now, that's not outright wins. No, that is not outright wins. That is just covering the spread. Eleven and a half. Twelve and a half feels like a lot of points for a Thursday night game, especially a division game between the Dolphins and the Bills. I believe the Bills have won 11 of their last 12 against the Miami Dolphins. But they've been games. Oh, yeah, they've been games. Just at the end of those games, one team is able to execute, one team isn't. Which has kind of been the story of this Miami Dolphins team who were in a dog fight with the New England Patriots just a week or four days ago. Now what will they do tonight? We shall see. Obviously Kirk and Al will be on the call.

[Tony Reali]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

We'll be waiting all day for Thursday night. Time's always good for Amazon Prime. Pretty good little kickoff show they got over there. Great, great production value. And tonight Buffalo will be alive. Is this the last. No, it won't be the last game that we see in this stadium.

[Connor Rogers]

No, not yet.

[Pat McAfee]

No. Because they're gonna have a lot of primetime games this year. Josh Allen. We're see Josh Allen under the lights a lot. We talked about everything about the Miami Dolphins. On the flip side, this Buffalo Bills team is now they're ready to avenge the four falls. Yes, this team is the one that's ready to go. So in your head you think to yourself, maybe Josh Allen and Bosa's interesting photo there of Bosa.

[Connor Rogers]

Chet.

[Pat McAfee]

That's up. Bosa. I don't know. Bosa and Josh Allen obviously there for the. What an interesting show.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's not Bosa.

[Pat McAfee]

Is this a bone graphic? Is this a bone graphic? Dirty graph. Yes, Bone is a bone graphic. He's a Buffalo Bills fan. Did he try to make Bosa look center? Is that Jake Laser? Where? Right there. Yeah, I guess I could see.

[Connor Rogers]

I could see a young Jake later in there.

[Pat McAfee]

Nonetheless.

[Tony Reali]

I thought it was Braun breaker for a second.

[Pat McAfee]

It does have a little bit of a Bron breaker feel there on the right side. The Buffalo Beals, who are Deebone's team that he just adopted three weeks ago, they are potentially going to win it all. They potentially. Best team in ball. Dolphins potentially worst team in ball. So them blowing out the Dolphins is certainly on the table as well tonight for Thursday night. And I think that massive question mark gives Us a great way to kick off this week three. The toxic tables here at Boston. Corner at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer done. Cowboys AP tone is here. Eleven and a half. Twelve and a half point spreads depending upon the book. ESPN BET has it as eleven and a half. That's big for a week three game, especially on a Thursday night game. That feels like a lot of points for any NFL game, let alone early Thursday.

[Tony Reali]

Division yes, huge. And that'll be tied for first or second depending on where the line closes at for largest spread of the season. Last week the Ravens and Browns was also around 11 and a half. 12 and a half. The Ravens did cover that number. It wasn't on a short week though. And this is one of those things. And you take a look at the stats. The 37 and 1702 teams in week three as dogs again. And a lot of it is like, people think they just look at that 02 number and they're like, oh, this team is absolute trash. It's not always the case. A lot of the time it's not the case.

[Pat McAfee]

But the sports books kind of think.

[Ty Schmidt]

That, yeah, they build it in, they.

[Tony Reali]

Build it in the public, you know, to, to take away from the risk that they have. They, they got to cook that into the number as well. But I have always been a guy who, if losing bets upset you and you went to bed after tonight, like at midnight, and you picked the Dolphins and they lost by 30, you'd be.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, what was that? Yeah, you're right. It is. You know, the pillow talking. Whenever you have to pillow.

[Tony Reali]

You could probably live the other way.

[Pat McAfee]

When you say I picked this Miami Dolphins team, this one that we saw week one in the loud house against potential best football team of all time.

[Ty Schmidt]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

Indianapolis Colts. We have no idea what it's going to be at the end of the season. All these team stories could be anything. We could be looking at the greatest season of all time from 10 different quarterback, 10 different running, but 10. We have no still so early in it all. But the way we're viewing the Dolphins at this moment, they could also be the worst team in the history of ball. Yeah, they could be one of the only teams to go completely defeated. They'd be the first team ever to lose 17 straight games in a regular season. They're also the only team to ever go undefeated throughout the entirety. So the Dolphins fans have certainly lived both worlds, especially if you're 95 years old and you saw those 72 dolphins, because if you're younger than that, you haven't really seen that part of it. You've only seen. Seen this particular shoe drop in the entirety. But we have no idea what the rest of the year is going to look like. And maybe tonight, tonight that tua sure. And Tyreek get on the same page and maybe the Miami Dolphins come flying out. Maybe HN stays in bounds on that cut and it's a long run. Let's go to the other half of the hammer, Don. Cowboys, bubblegum Beno. Great Jersey. You look fantastic. I know in your heart of hearts you're hoping that the Dolphins do turn us around. And maybe you do have a Super bowl team in there somewhere. And maybe you do have a head coach that can make adjustments and rally the boys and keep everybody on the same page. But in your brain, I think you're a little bit more negative than your heart is. Is that an accurate depiction of how Dolphins fans feel? Yeah.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Josh Allen never lost to the Dolphins at home as well. Only lost at Miami W once. But you got to show some pride tonight.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm telling you, we're at the show. Pride.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Oh, yeah, you got. Yeah, you got it. You got to fight. Because after this, you got the jets and you got the Panthers. So say you keep it close tonight. Say you lose. Then you come back, you win two in a row, all of a sudden you're two and three seasons back on. You gotta fight tonight, boys. Your back's against the wall.

[Pat McAfee]

Show some damn pride. Don't lose by more than 12 and a half. Come on. Come on, boys. Gumpy's getting a dub tonight. If this thing is less than a two score game.

[Ty Schmidt]

Sounds like it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it sounds like he's been. And also I assume he's gonna cook together alongside Conor and they'll keep it in their inside voices.

[Connor Rogers]

Not true.

[Pat McAfee]

Share it with anybody.

[Connor Rogers]

Don't even have an inside voice.

[Tony Reali]

That's true.

[Pat McAfee]

That is true. That is true. Won't talk about it when other ears are around, you know. Won't do. They'll have some sort of touchdown parlay and tonight Gumpy will find a win, is what Gumpy's saying. Con man, from listening the way you're speaking, you are almost maybe all the way in the aquarium with the Dolphins right now. Is that accurate?

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, I'm swimming with the fishes and my fins are up. I'm not going to go out there and say, hey, my fins are jumping out of the water and you know, I'm having fun and the Dolphins are going to win tonight. I just think with the Bills, you know, They're a great football team no matter what. You know, they could have played the two worst teams weeks one and two and we would still know that they're a great football team. With Miami, like they lose to the Colts week one, you're not really sure. I think right now you can say the Colts are a very good football team. So, like that loss now, sure, after week one, it was terrible because they got their asses handed to them, but now it doesn't look as bad. The Colts beat the Broncos. Like, okay, hold on. Maybe the Colts are good. Patriots, you don't know. Patriots lose to the Raiders and then they beat the Dolphins. You really don't know if the Patriots are a good football team yet. So for Miami, you're not sure and like the idea that they're going to get blown out. Completely believable. Josh Allen in, I mean, he just threw for 274 yards in the fourth quarter of a, you know, primetime game against the Ravens. He can definitely do that against the Dolphins, without a doubt. But hungry dogs run faster, baby. They need one. They need one so bad. Or it really is over. Not just for the season, but Mike McDaniel, all of a sudden you're starting to think, does he even get a chance to play the Panthers in the stance? Like tonight is kind of one of.

[Pat McAfee]

Those saying that seats getting blistering hot down there on the butt cheeks of McDaniel.

[Connor Rogers]

Definitely hot. Miami, you know, you're about to experience it. It's hot. No matter what, he's going to be sweating, you know, especially if that's like a metal chair in the sun. He's going to be sitting down and his axe cheeks will get burnt. But I more so think just like Thursday night, if you're going to fire a coach, right, you got 10 days. You can at least three. You can at least turn it around a little bit. Well, it's not week three. We've got, we've done this gimmick. We've done the two years, we've seen what has happened. They've traded play, they've let players go who have then gone on to be all pro. Van Ginkel. And that felt like a layup. It's not like he was $100 million. He sounded like a two year 15.

[Pat McAfee]

You're saying they lose by 50 tonight. There needs to be some conversations potentially had or possible conversations to be had.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, exactly. Just, just about the whole thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Like not gotta show some fight, boys.

[Connor Rogers]

Gotta show some fight. Like Tyree Kill was number one player in Football. Last year at this time, he got the huge award. He got the number one award. So it's one of those things where they don't have shitty players, they have good players. So why they shouldn't be getting beaten by third?

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of distractions in Miami. I don't know how anybody does football down there. To be honest. I'm happy I didn't get drafted down there. I don't know if I would have actually survived. I have no idea if that would have happened. And the best truck down the line. Oh. Is a Ram truck. No question about it. Yeah. The Hemi V8 is back. Fired up and rare. And to go get in on a. Motor Trend has chosen Ram 1500 as its truck of the year. Hey, we know Motor Trend.

[Ty Schmidt]

Motor Trend's big deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. They're not just giving that out.

[Connor Rogers]

It's like the Oscars.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. They're checking every bolt. They're looking into every V. Yep. You know, even those four banging pieces of that are outside that Debone showed up in his first couple weeks here. They're checking them all out to see who's superior. Motor Trend said, boom. Ram truck's got it. The V8 Hemi being back is good. You got a Hemi in there. Yeah. Happy that's back in our society. And Rams truck also back on the track. And returning a NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh, Love it. That's game.

[Pat McAfee]

That's all we're doing. Yep. That's what it's gonna be. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Jimmy credit.

[Ty Schmidt]

You've watched it so far.

[Tony Reali]

They're in New Hampshire this weekend.

[Pat McAfee]

Truck series. Live for your die, baby.

[Connor Rogers]

They're gonna have fun up in New Hampshire.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, they need to get comfortable because next year, whenever Ram trucks get back in that we already showed what's going to be.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

It's going to be flawless. It's gotta be the worst ad.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, that's what's great in the history. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who drives a ram truck every day. And when you look at him, you think to yourself, that's a ram truck, man. You actually think to yourself, holy. Does that guy actually have a Hemi inside? Because all he does is just his way through all the NFL news, opinions and obviously headlines. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for espn, host of the Adam Schefter podcast. Adam Schefter.

[Adam Schefter]

What's going on, guys?

[Pat McAfee]

What does a Ram truck sound like? Yeah, there he goes. Close.

[Ty Schmidt]

Pretty close.

[Pat McAfee]

Especially whenever it's kind of wide open.

[Connor Rogers]

There a Third of a way there.

[Pat McAfee]

I think you nailed it. I think you nailed it. Okay. Hey, let's look at tonight. We saw a stat from Josh Applebaum. Applebaum, which we appreciate. Great name it said that teams that are dogs in week three that are also 02, they've gone 37, 17 against spread. Seemingly a lot of fight in week three because this does feel like the stats of a team making it to super bowl or making playoffs after being 03, obviously much worse than anybody else. But oh, and two, you have a little bit of a shot. 03. History tells us that's going to be a long road. That's a long hole to get out of. So is that why you think teams show a little bit more fight in week three and at least cover and do you think this Dolphins team is going to be on par with that now we watch them against Colts Week one. We're. We're best team in both. We understand. Eyes on him in the loud house. And then against the Patriots, they were in that thing. Maybe should have won that game. Are we giving up on the Dolphins or how do you feel about them going into tonight?

[Adam Schefter]

Listen, I think that they've played fairly well in Buffalo. Better than people think. And they played well in Buffalo when it's been cold out. It's 68 degrees there right now in Buffalo and so the weather is not going to be a factor. And yeah, the Dolphins gave away the game. If they hadn't given away the game last week and come back and beat New England, you might have a totally different perspective on the game tonight. But it feels incredibly lopsided. I think it's the biggest spread of the week on any of the week three matchups.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[Adam Schefter]

And it just feels like Buffalo should do what it wants. But look, we all know what happens in these games. Weird things happen, strange things occur. And all of a sudden a team like the Dolphins that not many people are counting on comes through and plays better than people think that I think we get a better Dolphin outing. They don't have the horses to match up. The Buffalo to himself has said he's half the quarterback that Josh Allen is this week. That was an interesting comment.

[Pat McAfee]

Half the stuff.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, he's very self aware.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I appreciate that. But you know, that should have been followed up. But Josh also can't do. Yeah, but it was.

[Connor Rogers]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

Which is part of the problem. The issue. Everything's negative coming out of Miami from our experience right now. And Gumpy obviously diehard Dolphins fan. So we live with every single news break Every player release, every Pro Bowler left out of the building, every leader get out of the building. Every conversation that seems to just come back up every two months. Is this guy on the team? Does he like being here? Does he not like being here? Coach everything about it. We've lived through Gumpy, and Gumpy's always literally. That is the relationship that Gumpy, as a Dolphins fan, has with the Dolphins. So tonight would be huge for them, is what I'd like to say, and huge for Gumpy.

[Adam Schefter]

I got a good friend who's a Dolphins fan. He starts ranting to me during these games that they're losing, and he doesn't understand. I love him, but I don't really care, you know, when he's going through his frustrations, like, I love him, you know, Shout out to Mark Patrickov. Love you, Mark. That's your concern.

[Pat McAfee]

I love that Schefter is like, hey, Mark, you know this. I don't have personable conversations. You either have information or you don't. Okay, I don't. This is the opinion game. I don't need to hear. Okay. Now let's talk about some other topics, obviously, tonight, too. And Josh Allen will be playing. We are now officially maybe at 5. Backup quarterbacks getting some playing time. Brock Purdy might be back. I guess that is kind of the report coming out of San Francisco yesterday.

[Adam Schefter]

Possibly, like, they think there's a chance. I guess we'll know more today. I still think it's, you know, it's.

[Pat McAfee]

Possible.

[Adam Schefter]

We'Ll get a better idea today and tomorrow. They felt last week when. When we spoke with the Niners over the weekend, they're like, brock Purdy's gonna have a chance next week. Not a great chance, but he's got a chance. And that was exactly what they said yesterday. So I think they've been holding out hope that he can make it back. But Mac Jones showed last week that he's capable of stepping in and playing well. He helped San Francisco beat New Orleans in New Orleans last week. So if they have to roll with Mack this week, they'll do that. Obviously, they'd like to have Purdy back, and we should have more clarity here in the next 48 hours, I would think.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. We're polling for everybody's health. Obviously, this is a lot of quarterbacks out early. Early. You kind of alluded to Jaden on Monday before any of us really knew anything about that potentially being a possibility. He's out with a mild knee sprain. Then J.J. mcCarthy, he's obviously out. Joe Burrow. He's obviously out. Who am I missing there? No, that's Justin Fields. Fields is out. It's like, this is very early for this many quarterbacks. Or is this something we just don't remember until it happens?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, you know what's funny? I said to Ty this morning, I said, like, when you get Jake Browning and Carson Wentz in week three, that's the kind of matchup that you feel like you normally get in week 17 or 18. Like, oh, it's Wentz and Browning. And by the way, the Bengals like Browning and believe in him. And Carson Wentz has been a great quarterback in this league for a while, but it just feels a little odd to be getting that matchup in week three when we could have and should have been getting Joe Burrow versus J.J. mcCarthy. And it doesn't go that way because of a couple of injuries here. It is early. This is an unusual amount of injuries this early in the season for quarterbacks. There always seems to be a stretch in the season where all of a sudden quarterbacks start dropping. It occurred a little earlier this year, which is never good for anybody. It's not good for the teams. It's not good for the quarterbacks themselves. It's not good for the NFL. Not great for fans. So hopefully these guys will get back soon. You know, Joe is going to be on the show for a minimum of three months, but JJ by two to four weeks and Jaden may miss a week or so. Brock Purdy, we'll see if he can get back Justin Fields in the protocol. The jets play on Monday night next week against the Dolphins, so he'll have an extra day to get ready. I would think that he'd be back, assuming he can clear through protocol. But yeah, a lot of, a lot of quarterback questions for this early in the season.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, you mentioned Carson Wentz. They're playing for J.J. mcCarthy. We obviously experience the Carson Wentz experience here in Indianapolis and his good ball is so awesome. It is electrifying. It is great. And then his wild Carson Wentz experience stuff is obviously very cardiac worthy, I would say. Through it all, what is KOC and what are you hearing out of Minnesota about Carson Wentz, the quarterback that he's going to be for them and his sixth start for six different teams in six years? Obviously people are talking about how that's pretty wild in an NFL record, but what are they expecting from Carson Wentz?

[Adam Schefter]

Look, they went out and signed him and they traded Sam Howell to the Eagles knowing that they can get Carson Wentz as the backup in there. Carson Wentz is somebody who grew up as a Vikings fan, always wanted to play for the organization, went to Vikings games as kids, did the school chance, and now he's got a chance to kind of live out his childhood dreams there to go be a quarterback Minnesota and look, if he can succeed, that's going to be interesting because that's going to be a direct reflection again on Kevin o' Connell being a quarterback whisperer that he is. If he steps in and lights it up, you're going to start like the way the Mac Jones did last week for San Francisco. Frankly, when we think of Kyle Shanahan elevating the level of play of quarterback. So now that's at stake here for the Vikings, Kevin o'. Connell. And by the way, if he plays really well, all of a sudden you'll be like, okay, now you don't have to rush JJ McCarthy back with them going to. With, you know, they got to go to Ireland.

[Pat McAfee]

London. Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Back to back games before a buy. So again, if and when wins, plays well, then I think that takes some pressure off you in terms of getting JJ back.

[Pat McAfee]

Who? McQuaid's covering the game.

[Ty Schmidt]

McQuade is covering both games.

[Pat McAfee]

I think McQuaid is on the call. Congrats to McQuade. You need to meet McQuaid. He's an Irish legend. He's your job. He does your job. My job, Ty's job. Did those job.

[Connor Rogers]

God's job.

[Pat McAfee]

He does in Ireland. He is one of the. Him and the Irish pro football. Irish guys, they are. They've really been. They've been banging the drum.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

For the NFL in Ireland. For a long time. The pipe they're getting. Yeah, I'm sorry.

[Connor Rogers]

They've been playing the pipe.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. They smacking the beers. They've been splitting the G. Playing the live music. They've been doing the whole thing for the NFL for a long time over there and getting a chance to see them get a chance to do like the NFL, taking care of them. Yeah, I think is very. I'm happy to see that. Okay, let's say in the NFC north, you talked about Carson Wentz potentially being the starter for the Minnesota Vikings for the rest of the season, is what I heard.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Chance, what I heard right there.

[Adam Schefter]

No, no, that's not what you heard there, but okay.

[Tony Reali]

No rush.

[Pat McAfee]

Got it. Got it. No rush to get JJ Back, though. That is good. Got an experienced vet. That's why you pay him. Allegedly. They also offered Daniel Jones. They were looking for an experienced veteran for whatever happens, whether it's injury or, you know, if JJ just plays not great at all, which we still have yet to see. Very young in his career. I'm excited to see how that all goes. Carson Wentz experience could be. Oh, yeah. I mean, but it could also, I guess, have a little bit of a. Huh.

[Adam Schefter]

Like Sam Darnold stepped in there and Sam Darl lit it up.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, different styles play. I, I, I think different style. Carson Wentz, you know, they say Brett Favre gunslinger that guy. Okay. Because he was. He had trust in his arm, his faith in his arm. Carson Wentz not only gunslinger, he's a runslinger as well. Like, he thinks his legs can beat everybody. He thinks his shoulders can beat every. He thinks every play he can. He can beat everybody. And it is awesome when he does it. When he does beat everybody. It's amazing. Bouncing on a ball, throwing that thing into five. What, five Penta. Yeah. Yep. Penta coverage.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't even know if that's what that would be. Throw it into five people on somebody and still make the catch. Yeah. Zero.

[Connor Rogers]

Cover.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah. That would be exactly what it is. And then if he can. Sam Darnold not same as Carson, but if Kevin o' Connell can wrangle Carson Wentz into all the positives, that boy's going to. Flyce might get $150 million, might have an MVP. All right, let's move forward. Let's stay in the NFC North. Go ahead, con man.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Shefty. I'm going to have Foxy run this clip about the Bears. I'm going to ask you about Ben Johnson here.

[Tony Reali]

I think our practice habits are yet to reflect the championship caliber to team.

[Connor Rogers]

He's just, he's a psychopath. I love Ben Johnson. I think this is awesome, him talking about practice habits. Everyone was kind of saying, hey, buddy, you're the head coach. Like, why don't you fix it then? That is a question for sure. I think another thing would be, what about the quarterback? Feels like the quarterback and the leaders of that team would be someone who kind of figures practice out what's going on in Chicago. Shefty. It feels like it's much worse than, much quicker than anyone could have really thought. And is there a chance that we do see Agent Bagen, Tyson Bagent play football this year?

[Adam Schefter]

We're getting to the Tyson Beijing question. The early part of the program.

[Connor Rogers]

It's not good, Chef.

[Pat McAfee]

They're paying them money. Yeah, they're paying them money.

[Adam Schefter]

Listen, Caleb Williams, they Brought in Ben Johnson to fix him. I'm not going to tell you that eventually at some point, if Caleb struggled, they couldn't get there. That's a down the line thing. And if they do, that's going to be quite the story and quite the conversation. I think right now, obviously they're focused on getting Caleb Williams right, but there are issues. He has a lower completion percentage this season than he did last season. So, Scott, again, the idea was to bring in Ben Johnson, elevate Caleb Williams, beef up the offensive line, get everything humming. And I think this just shows you it's going to take a little bit of time for everybody to get acclimated. And when Ben Johnson's talking to reporters about the practice habits, sometimes Jimmie Johnson used to say that you don't speak to the media, you speak through the media. So I wonder if that's a case where he's speaking through the media to get a message to the players that our practice habits are not at a championship level. They're not where they need to be and they need to be better. Now you could say that to the team, you could say it publicly and have people carry the message for you. He chose to go the public route and these questions are all going to come up as long as they don't win. And now they got Matt Eberfluss coming in there. The Bears have lost six straight home games. Like there are a lot of issues that they have to quiet down. And the only thing that stops all that is a W. That's it. They don't win. The noise, all this noise and increase.

[Pat McAfee]

But is the feng shui of the suites going to be good? Remember Kevin Warren?

[Ty Schmidt]

That is. That is perfect right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Because Arlington Heights is where. Remember that from hard knock. Yeah. I watched John Taffer on bar rescue. And the people will bottleneck here. But if we do this with this particular direction, we'll have good feng shui. I had no idea Kevin Warren was designing the suites in the stadium as well. He's pretty. Yeah, he did. If the feng shui is good, maybe they'll be good there. Maybe they're waiting to get to that stadium to be good at football.

[Tony Reali]

Smart.

[Pat McAfee]

Or maybe Ben Johnson is just trying to put his there. We have seen this before, right? Matt Patricia, whenever he went up to Detroit, tried to institute something that didn't end up working out, Cleveland, Mangini went over there. He had like 6am Rookie Oklahoma drills taking place. I think I heard horror stories about that coming through to our locker room. Flores, Miami Flores trying never really worked out, but there has been, obviously, places where it has worked out.

[Connor Rogers]

Yes.

[Tony Reali]

I mean, better than them. It's better that way. Right, Than letting the team walk all over you.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, if you suck and you never get the whole team to buy, doesn't matter either way. So that's what I'm saying. Like, Ben Johnson's going to stay steadfast on who he is. From what we've learned, the Chicago Bears obviously paid him a lot of money to be the head coach. We're assuming that they stick with him. Instead of, like, locker room needs, get on board with. Ben Johnson is how everybody feels in Chicago.

[Adam Schefter]

No, it's his show there. Like, he's the guy, and he's got a lot of security there, as it should be. He waited a long time for the opportunity that he wanted and that he chose. He chose Chicago. And obviously there are issues to address. That's why he was being hired.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's talk about some issues to address. Got big money problems happening. Go ahead, Ty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Shefty. Earlier, when Tom Brady first became a minority owner of the Raiders, people brought up the, you know, hey, this is a conflict of interest. This cannot happen. And then it kind of just went away until we saw him in the booth on Monday night with a headset on. And then the report came out, hey, he's actually talking with Chip Kelly five to six times a week, you know, kind of breaking down the game plan and setting up what they're going to be doing on Sundays. And a lot of people weren't happy about it. From what you're hearing around the league or people that you're talking to, is this going to come to a head at some point? Because I assume that most teams think this is bullshit and they're irate about it.

[Adam Schefter]

I think there are certain people, like, there are coaches that don't like it. But look, here's the deal. Tom Brady's on the production team. He's coming into your building. You could tell him whatever you want or not tell him whatever you want. And Tom is smart enough in the senior football that he could scout those players and nobody needs to know about those players without hearing it from the coaches, too. I understand the appearance of it all, the conflict at all, but I'm not. I'm not worked up over it like some people are. I don't think it's a huge deal. To me, like, he is a limited partner in the team. If he wants to go sit in the booth with headphones on and can offer Coldplays.

[Pat McAfee]

Shit.

[Adam Schefter]

Go do what he wants to do. It's his team.

[Pat McAfee]

Score nine points this day. Yeah. Tom Brady's in the building. He owns the team.

[Connor Rogers]

Might help.

[Pat McAfee]

Can't score. Damn. Touchdown. Let me get these headsets. Chip Kelly. Hey, you need to tighten up. What if he is just doing what Carly Ursay had been doing on the sideline? What if Tom just wants to hear what all the coaches are saying? Let me see how they're communicating with each other. Let me see how they're talking. Because he could just be trying to evaluate his own business that he currently runs and currently owns. With that being said, a lot of other teams saying, well, why the hell would we let. If this guy's strategizing for another team, why would we let him in? And then Ben Johnson came out and said, yeah, we don't care. Yeah, this is what Ben Johnson had to say about Tom Brady being in the booth and then also having to play the Raiders.

[Adam Schefter]

He wasn't the only one.

[Pat McAfee]

He's affiliated with the Raiders, obviously. But you play next week, are you going to do that? How much you divulge?

[Tony Reali]

I mean, I've been careful. Everything I've said since the season started, I've been in pure coach speak mode. To me, it's just business as usual. I'm just fine. I like Tom and we have a really good relationship.

[Adam Schefter]

So to the next question on Brady.

[Pat McAfee]

You've got one of the most competitive.

[Mike McCarthy]

People in the history of the sport.

[Pat McAfee]

Crying around for information.

[Matt Rule]

How do you reconcile the conflict and.

[Pat McAfee]

Interest that exists with all situations?

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, like I said, I'm really not worried about it.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, we change week to week in terms of what we do.

[Tony Reali]

Schematically, he's going to be able to turn on the tape and see what everyone else in the world seeing right now, personnel wise, really the same thing.

[Pat McAfee]

It's.

[Tony Reali]

It's not like I'm going to sit down with him, hey, don't do this to Caleb Williams.

[Pat McAfee]

Or you might get it. Like, I'm not. There's not going to be any trade.

[Tony Reali]

Secrets that are going to be exchanged, but.

[Pat McAfee]

I just.

[Tony Reali]

I really don't think it's that big of a deal, to be honest with you.

[Pat McAfee]

On that note, Shefty, our source SIS have told us that a lot of those meetings with Tom have become coach, coordinator, player, PR person, asking Tom questions about what Tom would do in situations or how, like, quarterbacks have been taking the opportunity to pepper Tom Brady with questions. And he's been very open, allegedly wanting to give back to the game. So. So, interesting storyline here that's developing, but with how paranoid all NFL teams are and how paranoid NFL fans have become, especially with what the Patriots have been caught up in, you know, in very public stuff, this is a perfect storyline for some real conspiracy fodder. But I think what the actuality of it right now, now, who knows what, two years now, three years from now, four years from now, however long this goes. But right now, I think it's a lot of people getting info from Palm. And what if that production meeting actually becomes Tom spilling the beans on Chip.

[Connor Rogers]

Kelly's what we like to do?

[Pat McAfee]

It's interesting, Shefty. It really is interesting.

[Adam Schefter]

By the way, everybody should be going to him for advice. Everybody in the organization. He can help everybody. Like, he should be helping the coaches on play calls and giving the personnel department ideas on players he likes and talking to the players about being more pliable. There's a reason he's the goat, you know? And by the way, Ben Johnson wasn't the only coach. Brian Schottenheimer came out and said he doesn't care what he says to Brady in a meeting. And Sean Payton came out and said he doesn't care. So you're hearing a lot of hate coaches. Are there people, other people who are leery? Sure there are. I'm sure there are. Big deal. Again, if he's coming into your building, you control what you tell him. Just like if there's a reporter that calls up, like, I could ask, hey, what's going on with the draft? They're not going to tell. Well, here's our board. Adam, like, okay, but. But don't tell anybody, right? Like, I mean, you're going to be selective with what you share and who you share it with. Use some discretion.

[Pat McAfee]

It's not hard. I appreciate the head coaches coming out being like, let's not talk about how those meetings are going, actually, because. Tom, two minutes left. We have one timeout. Okay. What are you. I think that is what BA Said. The same thing. BA Was like, this. Production meetings are all bullshit. They're whatever you want them to be. Literally whatever you want them to be. And we have Coach McCarthy joining us here in the second hour. I'll be excited to hear his take. I assume he's on every coach's side that we have heard, but it is weird having an owner just waltz into a strategy meeting with people. First time ever. But Tom Brady's the first ever of who the hell he is. Go ahead, Aptone.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, Shefty. I wanted to talk to you about zero and two teams. I think there's different levels to zero two teams and the, the top level everyone I think assumes is the Kansas City Chiefs, but they are still 02 with tough games against the Chargers and the Eagles last weekend. Is there, is there any sort of panic that you're hearing coming out of KC or is it, or is it not panic at all because they've started season slows just like the Patriots. You start some season slow and they're probably going to be there in the end.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I don't, I don't think there's panic there, but there are issues that they have to work through and correct to turn it around. Because we looked at it since 2000. I think there have been 118 teams that have started on three over the last 25 years. And of those 118, one, the 2018 Houston Texans turned around and made the playoffs. So you know, the Chiefs margin of error is gone and they're in a division where the Chargers are better than people realize. The Broncos obviously lost last week, but they're expected to have a good season. The Raiders have been tough, so I think they're in a tough division in a tough conference you can, you can lose games. And yes, we all know the talent and brains that are there, so we expect them to turn it around. But you know, if they happen to lose Sunday night in New York to go to 03, that's a little bit of a problem. And right now, you know, they're missing explosive players on the offensive side of football. It looks like they have a chance to get back Xavier Worthy on Sunday night. Jalen Royals, the rookie wide receiver could be back. That'll also help some. So they need some reinforcements until Rasheed Rice can come back in week seven. But 02, you're behind the eight ball and so you just feel like you're playing catch up all year long. It's tough physically, it's tough mentally. They're, they've won Super Bowls, they've got a champs mentality, they've got talent. But at 02, you've got some things that you gotta work through.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, let's go to tonight's game talking about things to work through. Here's the full injury report that we have it right here. As we look, it's week three. Gee, so anything that we need to look at here, anything before we make our picks at 12 and a half or 11 and a half that we need to know.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I think it's Interesting that Storm Duck is out for the Dolphins. He was a starting cornerback at a position where they've already been decimated with injuries. And so that's a tough one to lose the number of players that they have.

[Pat McAfee]

Perfect name for a Dolphin. Yeah.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Absolute dog.

[Adam Schefter]

Storm. It's a great name and he's a good player. And they're going to be missing him tonight. The Bills, obviously missing those two defensive guys, Ed Oliver, Matt Milano. Those are two losses for the Bills, obviously. Jalen Waddle, questionable for tonight. With the show that they're hoping he goes, we'll see whether or not he's out there. If he's not, then Malik Washington would have to step up and they'd have to rely on other people. But that Storm Duck one is the one that I think to me, if I'm a Dolphins fan, worries me.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, Shefty. Thank you for joining us, brother.

[Adam Schefter]

Thank you, guys. Have a great day.

[Pat McAfee]

You have a great weekend of football.

[Adam Schefter]

You too, my friend.

[Pat McAfee]

Numbers are. Numbers are up across the board for football as a whole. It's a good time. How about Michigan, Nebraska? How do you feel about that?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, do you see the. The bet that those guys have for the. For this weekend?

[Pat McAfee]

The boys. The boys? Yeah. Not guys. The boys. The bus with the boys. Yeah, the boys. The boys. Yeah, the boys. The boys.

[Adam Schefter]

The boys losing their hair. You know, for the team that loses. Somebody's losing their hair.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And I think there's a $50,000 donation and also a concession of the 1990 code title. Wow. This particular game.

[Connor Rogers]

Holy shit.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Obviously, Michigan at Nebraska, favored by one and a half. Will Compton has to feel very comfortable with this team versus any of the other team since the busing with the boys have started the bus and bowl. So the one that. This one's the big one. This one's worth 50,000. Shaving the whole head. And also a former national championship. This is a big one. Yeah. It's a huge game, Shafty. Good luck to your Michigan.

[Adam Schefter]

Where's college game day Saturday, Pat?

[Pat McAfee]

We are in Miami. Florida Miami.

[Adam Schefter]

Nice. Okay, great. Well, that'd be fun to go down there for the Florida Miami game, right?

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, it'd be great.

[Pat McAfee]

Chefy, I am pumped to get down. I've never been down to the U. Okay. A lot of.

[Matt Rule]

Never been there.

[Pat McAfee]

Never. I've been to the city of Miami before. Yes. Played in a Super bowl down there. But when you talk about the. You. Its history to football, it's importance to ball. I'VE never been on their campus down there. I guess we're gonna go check it out this weekend. I can't wait. Florida versus Miami. Can there's some other games. Sure.

[Connor Rogers]

A few.

[Pat McAfee]

There were some other games that were certainly being chatted about. But I know the people at Miami from my conversations with them thus far. Very pumped to have us down. Like, very eager to have us down. The juice. I would say that is a good way to describe the Max Juice for us to be down there. So that's. That's really what I think is most important is, like, is the fan base pumped for us to be there? You know, because that changes the whole show.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, but are they never. Are they ever not pumped for game day in an area?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, you're right. I mean, every very shout out to the college football fans that show up to game day. We are very thankful for them. But there are some schools that get game day a lot. And like, I don't want to say that, you know, maybe there has been a little luster lost by some in some places.

[Connor Rogers]

Going to Bama in Georgia sucks sometimes.

[Pat McAfee]

And even potentially Columbus every once in a while. Sure. Every once in a while we'll go there and people are like, yeah, because Tennessee, when it was ice cold, like, took game day. You know, like, those places get it a lot. So it's like they're very used to it kind of being there. So whenever we go to places it isn't normally at, which, for instance, since last year, Indiana was insane.

[Adam Schefter]

That's awesome. Right?

[Pat McAfee]

James Madison a couple years ago. Absurd.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, absolutely absurd.

[Pat McAfee]

Kansas was sick. Cal, Berkeley was unbelievable. Now, obviously big games have to happen those weekends, but like Miami, we haven't been. Game day hasn't been there since I've been a part of it. So I think there should be some real excitement.

[Connor Rogers]

They were great last year.

[Pat McAfee]

Now, with that being said, Illinois, Indiana, the place would have went crazy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes. Big game.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, the bus and bowl. Yeah. You know, maybe the bus and bowl would have gone absolutely ham. Missouri, I think has.

[Ty Schmidt]

They do.

[Tony Reali]

South Carolina.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So that was a big one. I think that people like, there's obviously big games each week, so there's a lot of conversation here. But I'm excited to get down to Miami. They've seemed to be very eager to have us down there and obviously showcasing this Miami team and also, I guess Napier's Florida team, because this could be the end. Yeah, for sure it's gonna be the end if that thing goes the other way. So it's There's a lot of implications this weekend, but yeah, we're in Miami. It's gonna be hot as hell.

[Adam Schefter]

Shefty, my last thing for you before you kick me out of here. How cool. Pat, there's no reason you can't come back and volunteer to punt for the Colts these days. Like no reason. Just go.

[Pat McAfee]

Right. Good one, Schefter. Rigoberto Sanchez, when his time is called, we'll be up to fourth quarter. Backed up in your own end. Gotta flip field because field goal would win it for the other team. Rigoberto's first punt of the season.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Week nine.

[Pat McAfee]

Good luck out there, buddy. Go hit a big one, bro. Need you to hit a big one. He will. He will deliver. Just like you do every time. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Yeah. Joining us now, one of the coaches of the Bus and Bowl. Ladies and gentlemen, we're incredibly lucky that he's been joining us every single week of this college football season. He's the host of a podcast called Haas Rules. Ladies and gentlemen, he's a college football coaching legend. He coached in the NFL and now he loves his time with an undefeated Corn Husker squad taking on Michigan at home as underdogs. Ladies and gentlemen, coach Matt Rules. How you doing, coach?

[Matt Rule]

What's up, brother? How you doing, man?

[Pat McAfee]

Life is good. Thank you so much for joining us. How is life over there in Nebraska? Obviously we've been winning by a lot. We've been setting precedent. Now we got a huge one. Where your underdogs at home. What is the mindset this weekend?

[Matt Rule]

I think we're excited. You know, this is an excellent football team coming in. It's the Big Ten opener and as you said, it's a ranked opponent. It's going to be a crazy atmosphere here and we think we have a pretty good team so expecting a heck of a game, a lot of fun.

[Pat McAfee]

The Bus and bowl is obviously what this has been dubbed because Taylor Lawan, I think five star recruit out of high school, first round draft pick, incredibly handsome, very tall, represents Michigan. And Will Compton, the walk on undrafted, busted grill, nine year linebacker, special team dog, represents the Nebraska Cornhuskers from the Bussin with the boys podcast. Obviously they've tried to make this a thing for a few years now. This year feels like getting very real in the momentum and I feel like you guys have your best team for this and I think Michigan as being favored, they feel in a good spot as well. Is this the perfect time for the bus and Bow to actually launch into real in season hype and expectation.

[Matt Rule]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know, we played the game two years ago and it was, you know, everyone was here, Will was here, Taylor was here, and you know, we didn't, you know, they were a much better team and it wasn't a very close game. And so, you know, it'll, it'll be a great game. Two really good teams and it's what the Big Ten should be all about. You know, good rivalries. You know, we're not too far away from each other. I'm sure they'll bring a lot of fans. Our fans will be ready and it'll be, it'll be a great college football game to go along with all the other games.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's talk about the on field stuff. Cincinnati was able to run a little bit first night. Obviously quarterback able to move as well. Is that the big conversation point for your team is we're going to have to stop Michigan's run? Even though Biff is the acting head coach and he let Bryce spin it a little bit more than maybe Sharon. But that is that the. We got to stop the run is the only mindset on the defensive side.

[Matt Rule]

Yeah, they're 15th in the country in rushing offense. And to your point, last week, you know, quarterback was the leading rusher. So, so the things that bothered us against Cincinnati, you know, they ran for 200 yards and over 100 of that was the quarterback. Just, you know, Sorsby from Cincinnati dropped back and found a hole and ran. And we didn't have a great answer for it. Obviously that hasn't hurt us the past two weeks. But we're facing, you know, we're facing a whole different animal now. So big physical O line, you know. You know, that's what Michigan football is. Right. They're going to, you know, they're going to run the ball and stop the run. It's, it's true. Big Ten football and now they have a quarterback who can also run. So our guys are going to have to, our guys have to defend the run and defend the quarterback run, you know, to play well.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you seen Bryce at Big 10 days? Have you seen this 17 year old as of a month ago now, 18 year. Have you had eyes on this guy in real life?

[Matt Rule]

No, I haven't. It's weird now with the Big Ten because there's 18 teams. They do three days and they do, they do, I think six teams each of the, of the five other teams in US, the only team that we played while we Were there was Maryland, you know, it was Rutgers, it was Ohio State. It was, it was a bunch of teams that, you know, we don't even face this year. So it's, it's really like the NFL, man. You don't know who you're going to face. Even the bus and bowl. Like, you know, we faced him two years ago, not last year, we faced him this year. It's a rotating schedule, but he's really talented, elite recruit, and he's done a great job for them. You know, we think we have a really good quarterback too. And so excited, excited to go compete.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Tell me about Dylan. Obviously, this is the biggest game of the year. Much more comfortable where he's at. Emmett, obviously a dog in the backfield. Tell us about your off offense a little bit. Taking on this Michigan defense with, you know, a defense that hunts over there in Michigan. Always going to bring a lot of different disguises and everything like that.

[Matt Rule]

Yeah, I mean, it's Wink Martindale, you know, I mean, he's, he's, he's one of, one of my favorite coordinators in the National Football League. He's brought it to college. I mean, they, they, they're, they're lead up front, they can blitz, they, they can show a bunch of different stuff to you. But you know, we have a, we have a really smart quarterback in Dylan. He can, he can try to get us in the right play, he can try to get us in the right protection when he's full. He's done a great job. You know, he's completing 70 some percent of his passes, yet he hasn't thrown an interception and really only one that even had a chance to be intercepted. So he's a really, really smart football guy. You would love him. He's a football guy. He's in here all week studying. Like last week I, we finished the game last week. I went to Vegas to watch Bud Crawford and he's texting me pictures of him in his house. He's already watching Michigan. He's, you know, he's trying to outwork me. And so I respect our quarterback Dylan quite a bit. So it'll be a great chess match, him versus that Michigan defense with what they do.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Coach, hope you're enjoying Allegiance Stadium. Las Vegas is what I got going on. How about Bud, obviously, Nebraska guy. Anybody can be a nobody. We had him on the show earlier this week and he was talking about how everybody doubted all the people that he fought in his record. And he basically said anybody can turn into a nobody whenever he Looks at it. I seen you kind of adopted that as well with the messaging that you're sending the players. I think your strength coach was talking about it in your office.

[Matt Rule]

Yeah, no, no, no doubt. Since I've gotten here, you know, I've always known who obviously Terence Bug Crawford is, but getting to know him, I mean, he's elite. He talked to the team last year, let us out against Colorado, and. And literally there was no chance you were going to lose. Once he, once. Once he spoke to the team and he started walking up that tunnel, I was like, man, this is different here, you know, pound for pound king. And then, you know, I went to his send off and he had so much respect for Canelo, and he was talking about how they're both. Both first ballot hall of Famers, yet when they went to the weigh in, I showed our team. He wasn't talking about if. If I beat him, if this, if that. I mean, he risked his whole legacy. He was talking about when, you know, when he's never even been knocked down. And so we went to that fight, man, I was just. I was so fired up, so happy. You talk about a big day for the Cornhuskers, man. I mean, he's got the Nebraska N on his mouthpiece fighting. You know, we go backstage afterwards and see him and all his guys are all wearing Husker red. I mean, he's loyal, and so it's a great message for our guys. Man, no stage is too big for you. When you put the work in and you believe in yourself.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, I love that. Coaches being able to utilize anything for their own motivation, for their own team hype is glorious, let alone when you got the guy literally in your backyard. I was talking to people that were in the boxing world a little bit, and they're like, you know, Canelo moved. He's, you know, he's living his life. He's had a couple hundred million dollars for a long time. You know, maybe things a little bit different. Bud still lives in Omaha. He's got seven kids. Like, he is, you know, still. I don't want to say in the grind, but still very much, like, doesn't even realize basically the money or hasn't done any of that. And I picked Canelo to win because I thought he was heavier on the show. I did that and I got a call that night from, like, three people that were like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, Bud still. Did you see Bud? Did you see what he looked like at the weigh in? Did you. Have you heard the way Talking, it's like. And he's American. We need him right now. It's like, I messed up. And then you watch that fight, and it's like, in the ninth round, Bud wasn't scared of shit. Bud was like, let's go. Let's go. He's heavier. He should be a harder puncher than he's ever faced. Yeah, let's go dance here. I could lose the entire fight just with one catch, and instead, he stepped right into the fire. It's like, massive respect for both them, but also definitely for Bud. And we saw that end. Oh, yeah, we saw that in a lot. In the biggest fight of the century. They're coming, calling it Ed right on the mouth. I mean, it's a. It's a cool thing for the brand. Good for you. Tone has a question for you.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, Coach. You have one of the best play callers in the country, if not the best player caller in the country, a veteran, and Dana Holgerson. But it was a very rare move. You brought him in. I think it was week 11 last year. How big was that for him and Dylan to get some actual live game experience last season before the. Before spring ball, before summer. And then the offense looks like it's flourished this year.

[Matt Rule]

Yeah, you know, no one had ever really done it. You know, we lost to UCLA a week after playing pretty well against Ohio State, and I called him and said, hey, I need you here. I need you to, you know, get this fixed. The guys are working hard, but we need. We need something moving forward. And so I think it was pivotal because, you know, Dana had to decide if he wanted to be here this year, and he finished that year out. And he said, yeah, I'm all in for this. Like, can him and I work together? And it's been an unbelievable relationship. And then he and Dylan, I mean, every. Every team in the country came in and recruited Dylan. Hey, hey, come play for us. Come play for us. And, you know, he believed in what we're doing. He's a. He's a Husker. But he also believed in Dana. And so I think that time. And then we kept the staff. Like, I said, dana, you want to change anybody out? How do you feel? And he's like, no, I like these guys. They're good coaches. We'll make this work. And so it's. To me, it's been a unusual move, but one I'm glad we made, because everyone came back this year, and we're significantly better.

[Pat McAfee]

I bet Dana loves just being able to focus on the offense side of the ball than all the bullshit that comes with being a head coach, too, at this stage of his career. Yeah.

[Matt Rule]

A couple times I've said to him, like, what do you think? And he'll give me both perspectives, like, well, you know, you could do this, this, but that's your job now.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm so happy. Where's my Red Bull at? Right. I got to worry about one side of the ball for you. That sounds like a you problem right there, buddy. I've been there before. He, he was great offensively for West Virginia and obviously down to Houston. And him just being able to lock in on that without having to deal with all the politics and all the handshaking and everything like that feels like it's great for him. Sounds like it's great for you as well. Connor has a question for you. Coach.

[Connor Rogers]

Coach. With the last two weeks being not cupcakes, but teams that aren't ranked like Michigan, it feels like, you know, the videos we saw of you were very rah, rah, you know, getting the team going, making sure they stay locked in. Is it different this week when you're playing in Michigan where everyone is kind of, you know, zeroed in, laser focused at all times because it is such a tall task. And, you know, you did just mention right there, Bud Crawford leading Nebraska out, and you went to Bud's game match rather last week. Can we expect Bud maybe to lead the Nebraska Cornhuskers out on Saturday?

[Matt Rule]

You know? You know, I don't, I don't know that. I mean, he, I tried to call him the other day, and he's like, hey, I got the McAfee show right now, bro. I don't.

[Pat McAfee]

Know.

[Matt Rule]

I mean, I, I, People have reached out to me. I mean, I'm talking about superstars that don't know me, but they're called someone out. Like, I mean, what he's done is to your point, so. Fight of the century Chappelle, front row.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Going crazy. It's like, that's one of the biggest. Yeah, yeah, I understand. He's big.

[Matt Rule]

Oh. Now, I mean, so.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So I don't know.

[Matt Rule]

I don't know how that'll play out. I mean, he's got a lot of things going on, but we know he's. The day that he decides to come in, we'll be here ready for him. And, you know, I think the thing that the videos that we released, I mean, those were both at halftime. And so to me, like, leading up to the game, though, you always have a different approach Every week, depending on who it is. Like, if I have to sit here and yell and scream about, hey, we better be ready, this is a. You know, I think everyone here knows what the University of Michigan means and they know how good of a team this is. You know, we better be pretty locked in. For me, that was about at halftime being like, hey, this isn't good enough. And, you know, year one, I couldn't have done that, you know, with all the team. Year two, we kind of could, but some guys have been like, why is he saying this? Year three, they were. You see, our players, I mean, it's one thing when they show me, but our players are saying, hey, this isn't good enough. And so we understood, playing, playing the teams we faced, we're trying to get ready for the Big Ten because the Big Ten is a different animal. And it starts this week. You know, we. We've been working to get ready.

[Pat McAfee]

On that note, Ty has a question for you.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Coach. I believe the Big Ten is currently like 42 and 5 or something like that in that, in that neck of the woods. And a lot of people, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

There'S top 15 teams, I think. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

There's still a lot of the talk about, you know, the SEC being the superior conference. And then people were even cherry picking early in the year saying, hey, look at all the cupcakes the Big Ten teams are playing. But every week when you have a game like this, does it almost. Because we know who's at the top of the Big Ten currently, and we have a couple, you know, you guys are one of those teams who are kind of right there. Does it. Does it feel like a lot of these games are almost like playoff eliminators? So. Because, you know, every week in the Big Ten, you're going to have a team that, that, hey, if we don't play well, we're going to get beat. And we might only have, you know, one or two opportunities, you know, for the rest of the year to actually solidify our, our chances of being in the playoff.

[Matt Rule]

Yeah, I think. I think the SEC is an elite conference. I think the Big Ten is an elite conference. I think, you know, two things can be true, Right? I think the one thing that the SEC has done a great job of is they've branded themselves as the SEC. And when you look at the last 25 years, I think four teams have won national championships. You guys, can. I could be. I might could be wrong. Yet when we talk about the sec, we talk about all the other teams as well, it's not just the Alabamas, the Georgias, the LSU's, the Florida's. It's, it's, it's the whole league. And so people, you know, the tier of guys that are like 9 and 3, 10 and 2, they, you know, they still get a lot of street cred when we do the voting and all that. You look at Illinois last year, you know, took Penn State down to the wire, they finished nine and three and they're, they're barely in the conversation. And the Big Ten, we talk a lot about the top four teams, but, you know, this is the. I said on a podcast to house rules not to, not to, not the free. Free shout out. Just joking. But I said, like, you know, Division 1 football is the only football league where weather doesn't have an impact in the off season, in the postseason, like in the NFL. Being in Buffalo, being in New England, being in cold, being Kansas City, when it's cold, that you have to play through people's homes in the fcs, Montana, North Dakota State, those places matter. The Big Ten, man, you gotta, you gotta go on the road, you gotta play in the weather, you gotta play in different. We're trying to plan out going to Maryland and coming back and going to all over the country. And so, so I think as a league, we have to do a great job of talking about the Big Ten. Not just Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, those are great teams. But Illinois, Indiana, usc, there's a. Washington, played for the national championship two years ago, hopefully us, I mean, there's a lot of them. So to your point, you know, you don't have a lot of free chances if you're not in that upper conversation. But there's really good teams in the Big Ten, and I think the Big Ten is really strong, top to bottom.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think the conversation is going to change. I've mentioned this a couple different times. I don't know if you've heard me say it, so if I said it to you, I apologize for repeating myself. But all of a sudden, whenever the ranking happens at the end of the season and the College Football Playoff is being talked about, we have an SEC team, a good SEC team traveling into Big Ten, and the style of roster that you have to have in the Big Ten at that time, and the most important ball certainly paid off. Going to have to be a little bigger. Can't be as fast. You got to have a little bit more physicality. You can't just run four threes everywhere because it might be negative 55 degrees or whatever the hell it was was at Ohio State for that game. So interesting dynamic obviously being added into it. Everybody understands the Big 10 sec are at the top, but the Big 12 got rich, Rod. Let's not forget that acc. We'll see how it goes. Hey, last question here quickly, because I need to get your opinion on this. I've talked to a couple different coaches now about the transfer portal going from two times a year, both in December, January, and then also in May or April, I forget which one is spring and winter one. They've cut it down to just one transfer portal and it'll be the one in the winter. Okay, what are your thoughts on the December, January in the middle of College Football Playoff transfer portal being the only transfer portal window? And what are your thoughts on going from two to one? It feels like everybody's on board with that.

[Matt Rule]

Yeah, I think it needed to go to one. You know, you would negotiate with a player in all power to the players, but you would negotiate with a player in January, December, January, and then have to renegotiate three months later when there's no, you know, you haven't done anything so that, that doesn't happen in the NFL. And so it should be once a year, you know, you make a decision and then you play that year out. Number two, I and most of the Big Ten coaches wanted it in April and May because, you know, we pay the guys July, July 1 to June 30. So in the NFL, like the league year ends, you know, you get paid for the year we're going to have in college football, we're going to have players getting paid by two different teams in the same year. That doesn't make. Doesn't make any sense to me. And we're doing it that way because basketballs, you know, everyone's using the same, the same money, so it doesn't make as much sense. But I would, I would have had the portal in the middle of September for all I care to get one portal. It's, it's. It's better for the players. They don't need to be transferring to twice or in the sprint. I mean, I just think it's way better, but I would have done it in May. Yeah, I think. I think the playoffs should never be touched by players saying to themselves, you know, am I staying? Am I going? Last year, Penn State's backup quarterback left in the middle of a playoff run because he know he had to do what was right for him. I'm not saying anything about Lebow. I Just, just those, those things shouldn't happen, in my opinion with the portal. But some really powerful coaches wanted it. They wanted it in January. And you know, no one, no one asked me.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so on that note, everybody I talked to would have preferred the April, May one. Everybody preferred two to one. Yeah, everybody's like need to only have one. Everybody agreed on that. But everybody to your point was like the one in after spring feels like so we know what we have, you know, and then also we don't worry about the playoff conversation. Nonetheless, it'll all get figured out, right? Always does. Well, we'll see.

[Tony Reali]

Always does.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Pat McAfee]

Football is the greatest sport on earth and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chit chat about it today. Week three of the NFL season will kick off tonight as an AFC east battle will captivate us all. Will the Miami Dolphins show any fight and cover anywhere between a 12 and a half and 11.5 point spread? Or the Buffalo Bills continue to be the team that we all think they could be this year, the most dominant team in the entire NFL with a reigning mvp Josh Allen continue his back to back MVP MVP run? Or will Tua, Tonga Valoa and Mike McDaniel figure out how to be a football team again and win against the Buffalo Bills and change the trajectory of their entire season? Maybe their careers? We shall see in front of a captivating crowd up there in Buffalo that'll be celebrating the hell out of the last year in this stadium before they make the big move to the big Bison Stadium that is right across the parking lot. Tonight we're in for one on Amazon Prime. We got Kirk Herbstreet, Al Michaels and Kaylee Hartung on the call then for the kickoff show. Dogs everywhere.

[Ty Schmidt]

Look at everybody.

[Pat McAfee]

Richard Sherman's there. What? Wits there, Fitz there, Chris is there. Tony Gonzalez is there. What? And all the other participants, in which there are many, always got some gimmicks and games to play. And then the post show if you're up after the game, they do a full 2am That's a full thing there. If you just happen to be a little bit of a night owl, they will certainly take care of you with a nightcap. I do believe. Not that nightcap, right? But Primes.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

Two Shows with nightcap right now.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I think primes is. Yeah, you get it a little different.

[Connor Rogers]

No doubt there it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Vastly different shows. That's one half of the hammer done Cowboys AP Tone, the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. And joining us live from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, he's a man who's a college football national champion, super bowl champion Ryder cup winner, Ladies and gentlemen, a man who's in the middle of changing his hairstyle. You can't tell because how good he looks. AJ Hawk hasn't even been a topic of conversation over the last few days. I think we've gotten to a good stage of it all. How you doing, A.J.

[AJ Hawk]

I'M doing great. How are you guys doing? I really enjoyed the Ram truck advertisements you guys ran a little bit earlier.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, we did run that. Yeah, we ran that. That was a pre recorded advertisement that had to get approved obviously by all parties and signed off on. And I'm sure that really moved some Ram trucks.

[Ty Schmidt]

I bet it did.

[Pat McAfee]

I assume people are going down the line to get themselves a Ram truck tonight though. AJ AFC east battle. Everything negative seemingly about the Miami Dolphins are my thoughts. You know, especially after watching them now. The Indianapolis Colts might be the greatest team in the history of football. That is tbd, period. Okay? Not question mark, not mockery voice.

[Connor Rogers]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

That's actuality brother. Danny Dimes is on a loaded roster with an offensive guru, but they made the Miami Dolphins look very bad to start the season. Very, very bad. Not a great way to kick off an entire vibe run for a Miami Dolphins team that was maybe entrenched in a little bit controversy. First time that Tyreek Hill has been on that team. He's not been named captain, obviously. At the end of last year, there was what it was where he said, I don't know if I need to be here. Then Tua came out this year during training camp and said, you know, it takes a little time to heal from some things that are similar. And it also takes some time to heal from shipping all your pro Bowlers out of town and seeing if you can be a football team. Jalen Ramsey, John Hugh Smith, Calais Campbell, you name it. Get the hell out of here. We don't need you. How's the team going to be? Well, they start out 02, put up a lot of fight against the Patriots last week. Will they do the same against this Buffalo Bills teammate, Jayhawk?

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, I think they are definitely going to put up a fight. I mean, I think I said A couple days ago, like, this is a great opportunity for the Dolphins. That's the way they have to approach this. Yeah. We know they're up against what, 12 and a half point dogs, Maybe even more, depending on where you look. But if the Dolphins, like, just think of what it could do for their season if the Dolphins find a way to win this game, this is like a turning point. It's a turning point. We're going to go one way or the other. And if this is one of those years that we can hopefully have some kind of success, like, we'll look back on this week and say, hey, there's where it kind of turned around and there's where we find a way. We, you know, kind of found a way to put it together against a great Buffalo Bills team.

[Pat McAfee]

I know we're talking about the season and everything like that, and I don't want to be dramatic. Okay. Okay. Not a dramatic person.

[Mike McCarthy]

No, never have.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't really. I wouldn't overreact anything. No, not in the moment at all. No. But you're talking about maybe career saving nights tonight.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, sure. I mean, you. You mentioned it. I think if, if for a lot of people, if the Bills throttle the Dolphins, like, I don't think. I don't think it's crazy that both those guys get fired. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, you already tie like this. Irwin tie.

[Ty Schmidt]

I think.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. Connor mentioned it earlier. Week three is so early, but if it is a drumming on, I think there's a chance. I really.

[Ty Schmidt]

I really do. Especially with how flat they were against the Colts for it being week one. And then like, they basically gave away that game last week. If they, like Gumpy said, hey, they just got to be competitive. If they get beat by 28, you know, four touchdowns or three touchdowns tonight, I think there is a chance that, that at least McDaniel gets fired.

[Pat McAfee]

I think I'm being a little dramatic, but it's very early in the season. But. But we happen to be around a Dolphins fan, so I think that is why maybe we cover a little closer. Could be it's just like the Detroit Lions before they became the brand new Lions and they were still the same old Lions. We covered a Lion strictly because Foxy, who is here, was a Lions fan. So I would like to watch this Lions team so that I can understand what mood he's going to be in and maybe talk shit to him about what's going on with his emotions and feelings. So we've been covering this Lions transfer transition and Change throughout. Very close. Close. I say closer than anybody that has had. Although we were just a small regional show, much closer following of the Detroit Lions here over the last five years than anybody else I was. I will say that other than local media talking about, you guys witnessed the heartbreak that Lions fans went through for all those years. You understood it. So then. Now they're good. It's awesome. Yeah. It's a brand new Lions now with the Dolphins. It's the same thing with guns. And boy, I remember the excitement when this era was starting.

[Connor Rogers]

Trading for everybody, signing everybody.

[Tony Reali]

They're going to win a playoff game, paying people.

[Pat McAfee]

Remember, there was rumors, all alleged. We did not make this up. This has been reported out there. There was rumors that maybe the owner was trying to lose games for the. This came out after the season, a season in which Gumpy, who's a Dolphins fan, said, it feels like they're trying to lose. So then when the owner comes out, allegedly was potentially. This is all reported. We are not making this up. This was alleged. We did not. This is the thing was telling the coach, I'll pay you more money. You lose some games. 100 grand. Okay. So the fans have to go through that. Fans have to be like, don't even want to win.

[Connor Rogers]

What the.

[Pat McAfee]

Can we get some money? Maybe for us trying to. How does this even become a thing? Not saying it's real. I'm just saying it was talked about. So for that moment, from that moment of Gumpies fandom. Okay. When it's like, I knew it. They're definitely trying. They're not trying to win. That's, of course. Then that gets debunked, goes to court, whatever the case is, kind of disappears. Whatever happens there. I don't know. Other stuff started coming up.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. A little bit more prevalent in that particular story. But from Gumpy, at that moment of life when that was being alleged, once again, not real. I don't think. I don't know. Actually, we don't. Do we know?

[Connor Rogers]

Not sure.

[Ty Schmidt]

Find out.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I don't. Not real. We'll say it wasn't real. Allegedly.

[Tony Reali]

Yes and no.

[Pat McAfee]

Legend. It wasn't real. Okay. We'll say it wasn't real. But at that moment when it was being reported Gumpy was down here. I committed my whole life.

[Connor Rogers]

They're not even gonna say I'm sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

Not one time. No. What's that about? This team I've given so much to, they're down here. Then McDaniel, Tyreek Hill, they pay the most amount of money in Wide receiver. Yeah. We're not paying money to lose. We're paying the most money for a weapon on the offensive side so we can be explosive. So that ride, just watching him go from the depths of hell all the way to Euphoria Town, and then now what we're staring down. Week three with this team is just. It's heartbreaking for our guy Gumpy, and he painted too many ships for him to be this heartbroken. Week three, in my eyes, I think that he probably represents not all Dolphins fans, but at least some Dolphins fans that are like, man, are we ever going to get it right? Tonight, I guess we find out if they can correct it or if we're on a path to full rebuild.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. And that's what stinks too, is like, that taking, you know, us back all the way there. When it was. The Flores situation was crazy because then I remembered the first initial McDaniel thing. Like, Gumpy wasn't sure about Tuo, really. No one really was, because he wasn't getting a fair shot. McDaniel comes, comes in, he's like, hey, you're the guy. Like, I'm gonna make you great. Tyreek Hill, they also signed that year was the number. The number one free agent was the left tackle, Toronto.

[Ty Schmidt]

Armstead.

[Connor Rogers]

They signed Armstead. They got a good old line all of a sudden, like, going back to that time.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

That year.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

When did it go bad, though? When did it start going bad?

[Pat McAfee]

Last year.

[Tony Reali]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

Last year. The end of the season, I think, is when it really started. Because that's good question, AJ with that be when it was Gump.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Yeah. Tua's record over the last 16 games has not been good. Like. Like actually like every other season. You could say if Tua was hurt, we were bad. Whereas the last little while, even if two is healthy, we are bad. Like, we haven't been a good football team. That is the biggest worry. This is the first time in as long as I can remember all the Finns faithful agree. Everybody's pissed. Like, usually there be like, some people love Tua, some people hate Tua. The whole fans, all of them are pissed.

[Pat McAfee]

And everybody did I see Tua on that mountain?

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

He was at the top.

[Ty Schmidt]

Tua was on Cuck Mountain.

[Connor Rogers]

You've seen a lot of Tua.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

The tweet actually said, enough is enough. He's finally made it.

[Pat McAfee]

Was I on that mountain? Years and years ago, I was on that mountain. Which means I am enemy number one, basically, of the Finn fam on the Internet, basically. That. That is that. That's what it felt like at least whenever I got put on there. It was an honor to not be mentioned amount amongst the Mount Rushmores of mountain down there in the Finns family. It was nice that I got out of there because I did become a believer. Because I think you became a believer. They put two on there now. Wow. That's.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's how you know.

[Pat McAfee]

That's how you know it's over. That's how you know it's like a big one tonight. Big one. I go Dolph.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh man.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that?

[Connor Rogers]

Just, just going. Going back through it again. Not to mention just like the ups and downs of the concussion. Stuff like that. Yeah. Did you like going all the way back to like when it started with Josh Allen to the third to the prime time with the Bengals where he got slammed by the D tackle. Like it has been quite the ride. And then he came back from that too. It just. It sucks. But they're going to show fight 12 and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, they are. We are two of fans. We are Dolphins fans. It has not looked good but almost beat the Patriots last week.

[Tony Reali]

I GPT earliest firing since 1990. Scott Linehan for the Rams was fired after 04 start in 08. Dennis Allen. 04 start in 2014. Joe Philbin a one in three start in 2015 and Bill O' Brien and 04 start in 2020.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so it feels like you're gonna make it at least four months.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Philbin was in Miami as well. That was him getting fired.

[Pat McAfee]

And is that when mcdc won in interim?

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Yeah, I believe so. I'm not positive.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. Wild times. Obviously Dolphins had mcdc in the building and Ben Johnson.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, you're right.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, we'll see how that all goes. We have some breaking news. A.J.

[AJ Hawk]

What happened?

[Pat McAfee]

What happened? Great. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

I'm trying to ask.

[Pat McAfee]

Greatness happened. Do you remember the announcement of the WWE and ESPN partnering? The world's greatest entertainment company, Sports entertainment company. Going with the worldwide leader in sports finally coming together to become a superpower partnership of sports and entertainment. Do you remember that announcement?

[AJ Hawk]

I do remember.

[Pat McAfee]

So then you know that Russell Palooza this weekend in Indianapolis, Indiana at Gainbridge Field House is kicking off this partnership and it's going to be a massive night. You know that, right?

[AJ Hawk]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

The show starts at 7pm Eastern Time on the ESPN app. WWE is bringing it in a big way. John Cena, Brock Lesnar on the marquee. You have in a lot of people's eyes the greatest of all time in John Cena, a man who had a 20 plus year run at the top where he didn't miss a show, an absolute workhorse. A man who is absolutely shredded. Goes from being a guy laughed at, basically, who worked his ass off, to becoming the guy in the business for over two decades, then obviously goes into Hollywood, takes over, does his thing, he's on his last run right now in the WWE world, is saying thank you to him all across the world. That's because he has done such amazing things, the guy. He's taking on the alpha male of our species. A man who was so fucking good at wrestling that he got to the top of it, maybe at the youngest and the quickest in the history of wwe. Then whenever he conquered wwe, he said, in my body, in my mind, he's built a to do more. What do I need to do? Oh, I'm going to go trial for the NFL. Raina 44 in jeans becomes a D tackle. Never playing the sport before for the Minnesota Vikings. All parties agree. If you were to put about a year of work into this, two years of work into this, you could potentially become like a Hall of Fame NFL player, even though you've never played the sport before. He goes, oh, thank you. You know, and then he decides that I'm going to go into the ufc, becomes their World Heavyweight champion and beating people. His arms are so long, his hands and fingers actually dangle and touch his shins whenever he's walking around. He's built to be a destroyer. He knows that and he has executed that. He's become a goat in multiple places. And him and Cena are going to be battling for one last time here in Indianapolis, Indiana. And it's going to be must watch. It's going to be show stealing. It's going to be something that's talked about about for generations and generations. And that fight will be taking place at the top of the show. Kicking off the ESPN WWE era will be John Cena vs Brock Lesnar here at Gainbridge Field House in Indianapolis, Indiana. This is obviously gigantic. What a way to start the best partnership I've ever seen and the smartest partnership I've ever seen between ESPN and wwe. And also, two goats going at it. So that's breaking news, aj, and I'll let you kind of digest that and take that all in. But just know 7pm Saturday, it's coming out with a bang, brother.

[Connor Rogers]

Hell yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Hey, do we know if the roof and the window will be open?

[Pat McAfee]

It's a Gamebridge field house.

[Connor Rogers]

Come on.

[AJ Hawk]

I assume These legends are going to go in the stadium.

[Pat McAfee]

So listen, this would be a stadium mat. This is a stadium match. These two are stadium match. Oh, yeah. Russell Palooza, though in Indianapolis has not played. I mean, we had Triple H on. What was that? Last week? And he was like, hey, ESPN had a date. They asked if we would be able to do a show. We certainly love that idea. Here we go. So I don't know if. I don't know if stadium was pitched or presented, but whatever the case, this is a stadium. This is a history box office. This is a must watch fight and it'll happen to kick off the entire partnership. That's good shit.

[Connor Rogers]

Let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

That's good shit. Yeah, that's good.

[AJ Hawk]

7:00Pm Kick off the show. Right. So boom, they're coming out first.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Good move.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom.

[AJ Hawk]

Genius.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That old thing. Yeah. And then John Cena, I love the way he's coming out with the black screen. Oh, yeah. And then we're dropping into there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Connor Rogers]

I wonder if it will be.

[Pat McAfee]

What? I wonder if they.

[Connor Rogers]

He goes old school. Just goes. No black screen.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you're talking about him going thuganomics.

[Connor Rogers]

Going off all the way back.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. If he comes out with the chain and the hat, that'd be sick for sure. I mean, your time is up, his time is down.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Who knows anything?

[Connor Rogers]

That's what he said.

[Tony Reali]

That's Wrestle Palooza football. Anything could happen.

[Pat McAfee]

What if he comes out as peacemaker?

[Connor Rogers]

I mean, there's shoots him in there.

[Pat McAfee]

Ricky Sticki, maybe. I mean, there's. Yeah, I think. I think John CEN is probably going to be the one that shows up, but anything is possible.

[Tony Reali]

Is Dimes going to be there?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Danny Dimes.

[Connor Rogers]

Saturday night he's going to be screaming.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's more of a Sunday night goal.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he sent his manager for this one as like an honor being in.

[Pat McAfee]

Welcome to the city. Yeah. Thank you for coming to the city. Says Danny Dimes. I respect that. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a Super bowl champion head coach. He's from Pittsburgh, which obviously makes us love him immediately. He is currently enjoying a year off from head coaching after coaching the Dallas Cowboys. What does the future look like? We don't know, but we're appreciative that he joins us every single week. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach Mike McCarthy. Gentlemen, Coach, you see John Cena, Brock Lesnar leading off that show. How you. You all right with that or what are your thoughts?

[Mike McCarthy]

I'm heading to Indy as soon as I get done here.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Hell, yeah. Good place. We would love to have you here. Obviously, we're very pumped that you're coming. I'll let. I'll let the WWE know. You might be. You might be sitting right, you might be in the ring.

[Connor Rogers]

Might need you.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, go in.

[AJ Hawk]

Get in there.

[Pat McAfee]

Might have you in the ring. You want to slide in there, maybe hit some. Hit the ropes a little bit. Coach, thank you for joining us. Week three obviously kicks off tonight. AFC east battle, 12 and a half point spread now at ESPN, BET, and multiple other books. I don't even think you can get 11 and a half. 12 and a half feels like a lot of points for a division game on a Thursday night. How do coaches view these short weeks? And if you're these coaches, what is your messaging to your team?

[Mike McCarthy]

Well, I mean, I've always liked the short week because, you know, I think particularly when it doesn't go great on the prior Sunday. But, yeah, this is. This is a tough one here because, you know, division game, like you've already stated, Thursday night, you know, Miami going up to Buffalo. I mean, but, you know, you look at the numbers and you watch the first two games. I mean, Buffalo is really rolling right now. I mean, just the way the ball distribution. Josh Allen's playing at an MVP level. I just like the way their defense is coming on. You can see that at the end of the Ravens game and then obviously last week. So, you know, in Miami's, you know, they turned the ball over a little bit. So, you know, I definitely think this is a favorable game for Buffalo, but that's a lot of points.

[Pat McAfee]

Go ahead, A.J.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, coach, let's say you're trying to defend Josh Allen on this offense. What can you do like a quarterback like Josh that is so dynamic, can beat you so many different ways? What are you telling your defense to do to try to contain this guy?

[Mike McCarthy]

Well, it's. It's twofold. I mean, they do such a good job of staying on time. When I watch him play, you know, they're in sync. I mean, this is an offense that's played a lot of ball together, and I think that's really, you know, things I always watch for September football. You know, you look at the teams that are playing well offensively, it's. It's usually, you know, illustrated by a group of men that have some time on task together, and they look really, really sharp. But his ability to extend plays, you know, and when you got quarterbacks that can, you know, exit through the A gaps or Exit through the B gaps, extend plays and obviously turn them into huge gains. I mean, that's a tough task for the defense, especially early in the year. Defense is, you know, their timing, the rush, lane, discipline, all those things. Part of that September football, you know, they're going to Miami is going to have to have it tonight because this, he's going to make plays and then the other part of it, he can throw to any spot on the field. He can make any throw out there. So I just been so impressed with him the first two weeks.

[Pat McAfee]

Josh Allen, reigning MVP of the NFL every off season. He's only gotten better this offseason. He got married. We'd obviously like to congratulate him for that, but he's also gotten better somehow. This Buffalo Bills team, very fun to watch, watching. On the flip side, people are saying the Dolphins have gotten worse. Ty has a question for you.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Coach. I remember a couple years ago in Dallas when you guys were in a little bit of a rut, you, you went with the Gallagher gimmick and you started smashing watermelons in the locker room. We all heard about it, we all loved it. When there is this much negative surrounding a team like there is the Dolphins right now, do you, would you encourage Coach McDaniel, hey, maybe smash a few watermelons in the locker room, get the boys going? Or is it a little early to bring out something like that?

[Mike McCarthy]

Well, in honor of the great Gallagher. He was 2 and, oh, in my time in Dallas. So rest in peace, by the way.

[Pat McAfee]

Great Gallagher.

[Mike McCarthy]

Rest in peace. Rest in peace. But no, you know, actually that was going to pandemic times too. So we were probably caged up a little bit too much just thinking about it. Too much, probably. But no, I think, you know, you have to have fun. You got to keep the energy up. I mean, that is so important. All part of the group dynamics and the challenges of every single year. So, yeah, I think the most important part is you want these guys clear minded. But, you know, Miami is going to have to go. It's a division game. These division games are always tight. We talked about this a little bit last week. September division games, I think, are a real, real challenge. So they're going to have to really do a good job taking care of the football. And as you know, Joe, Buffalo just look so good right now. So Miami's going to have to shorten the game, you know, win the time of possession. The first two weeks, they've been on the wrong side of the time of possession. But division games are Usually tight. You know, like I said, that's a lot of points to give up to a division opponent.

[Pat McAfee]

Why is the division game normally tight? Because don't rosters change every year? Like, why is it always. I mean, we were a part of them with the Colts. They were always tight and it's always like, well, you know exactly what the person's going to do. You play them so much. But what if It's a new OC, new D.C. what if it's a new coach? Not that it is in this particular case, but why is it just. Is it the vibe of the game just feels bigger so people are a little tighter? Like, is it the knowledge of the other team that just naturally comes from playing each other so much?

[Mike McCarthy]

I mean, personally, they're my favorite games of the year. I mean, they are the best games of the regular season. I mean, I know as a coaching staff, you always put time, you know, into the division games in those June weeks before you go on vacation. It just carries so much more weight, you know, plus, did the fans, the tradition, the rivalries, all that play into it? So there's nothing like the division games, you know, I know there's so much made of the night games and so forth, but, you know, the division games, just the competitive spirit is always high. You know each other fairly well. Even like you've stated with the change of rosters, I mean, there's definitely a familiarity to your division opponent.

[Pat McAfee]

What's behind you there, coach? What do we got? The photo.

[Mike McCarthy]

Oh, Roberto Clemente. That's how you do that. Roberto Clemente bridge. My favorite all time professional athlete.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell yeah. Is that your favorite bridge?

[Mike McCarthy]

Is it my favorite bridge? Okay, that's a good question. I'd have to say the Homestead High level bridge.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a good one. Closest one to the highest diner, obviously.

[Tony Reali]

Beer distributed right at the end of it.

[Pat McAfee]

Pittsburgh, actually. Most bridges of any city. Pittsburgh in the world. Right. Isn't that world record bridges everywhere? I mean, it's architectural engineering marvel as you walk around town. That one right there, though, leads to a lot of good times.

[Tony Reali]

It does.

[Pat McAfee]

And that one, that one's named after a phenomenal human in the history of sports. Go ahead, Tone. Yeah, Coach.

[Tony Reali]

We were talking about Daniel Jones earlier this week and how great he was against the blitz against the Broncos. And we talked about it with Bruce Arians a little bit and AQ Shipley, and they were, they were saying, like some of these teams, they don't have sight adjustments anymore. They don't have hots, like, and Is I was asking you like overall, is that what separates a good quarterback from a great quarterback is against the blitz, knowing your sights, knowing your hots. And, and is that why young quarterbacks sometimes tend to struggle coming into the NFL?

[Mike McCarthy]

Yeah, definitely. I think that's a great point. I think schematically, you know, when you do put together an offensive system, you know, we always talk about proactive adjustments and you know, some, some teams don't believe in having sight adjust or a hot system built in. It's more, you know, make, make the protection adjustments. So it kind of varies scheme to scheme. But definitely that's something that you know when you go back and you look at the training and training camp because, you know, the live work, the live teamwork, because the speed of the pressure is so important for the development of quarterback. You know, flipping to the other side of the ball. And I learned this from dom capers back in 09 when he came to the Packers. You know, we were talking about the preseason, you know, how much pressure to run in the preseason versus not showing your pressure and you know, just playing coverage and standard defense. And the point that he always made, which I still see this true and I obviously use it on the other side of the ball offensively is the defensive player's got to learn to play to the speed and the time clock of pressure defense. So having pressure defense for a young quarterback in the training component is critical. And I think that's probably, along with I think Bruce's comments is, is a key to their development.

[Pat McAfee]

Can you tell me a little bit about confidence and what that can do for a quarterback? Especially when you come out like Danny Dimes, new home. Obviously a lot of shit has been said about you. And then the first two weeks you're playing damn near perfect football. Your choices, your options are all right. Your throws, all on the money. Your decision making on when to run seemingly right. You're taking huge shots, you're bouncing right back up. It's like that's a great way to start a new relationship in life, but definitely with a new team. Right? Confidence has to be a weapon for Danny Dimes and Shane Steichen at this point.

[Mike McCarthy]

No, absolutely. I mean, you get the big win over there in Denver too, is awesome. No, confidence is really what it's all about. That's what moves the needle. That's what moves the needle for the player. That's what moves the needle for the offense, the defense, and ultimately moves the needle for the team and then the fans and everything. You know, the external Energy increases. But I'm really happy to see his success. You know, he's had some tough moments, but, you know, I always thought he was an excellent prospect both in the pocket and out of the pocket, and it's great to see him have the success he's having in Indianapolis.

[Pat McAfee]

Was it against you? We saw him just running, striding out. Was that again, it feels like it was on primetime games, which is normally against him. Yeah.

[Mike McCarthy]

No, I mean, I think the one year he had, what, three touchdowns over 50 yards. I mean, he's. I mean, he can run. He can definitely run, but I just think he needed a little more time in the pocket in the earlier days because, you know, he definitely has that ability.

[Pat McAfee]

Our source says close to Danny Dimes tell us that he's only 28 years old. The body feels like it's only getting faster. So enough with the wow, surprise. You can still run stuff, you know, because this weekend against Denver, defensive end or outside linebacker, I don't know who it was within a foot of them. He switches gear, gets around this guy. Like, it looked like a Tyree Kill, kind of like getting out of a phone booth almost. And it was right in front of us. I'm like, I didn't know Danny Dimes still had that. And then I was told, promptly, 28 years. What are we talking about? He's still young and he got blasted before.

[Connor Rogers]

We've seen him get crushed and pop up, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's. He's really hitting his climax here. And so are we. You know what I mean? Just like those glory holes. We're always looking for those glory holes right down there in Dallas. I've learned the glory hole is what we're all seeking, right? Is that right? I heard Jerry Jones say that, Coach.

[Mike McCarthy]

Are we jumping to the oil business now, Pat?

[Adam Schefter]

Or.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll tell you what. After learning I could buy an $800,000 rig and potentially make $100 million, I certainly thought about it. I'm certain we thought about it. I don't know how the modern age is with oil, and I don't know if we're trying to find it. Still think we should. Sounds like it's the right move. But if I could get one of those rigs to get down there and cough like any mammal would, and then start to bleed and then start to hiss and start to howl out, and I knew it. I said, we found it. There's a glory hole down there. And this $800,000 rig just penetrated that thing beautifully. You never know what's on the other side, you never know. You don't, because you might run into a, you know, something you don't want to run into down there. That's why you keep your eyes off it. But every once in a while, you find that glory hole and magic starts happening for everybody. Right? That's what we're doing with Dallas Cowboys. We're trying to. To do.

[Mike McCarthy]

You talking with the Cowboys or with the. With the oil in the glory hole?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I mean, go ahead.

[Mike McCarthy]

I don't know. You're asking me?

[Pat McAfee]

You don't want to get in trouble, you know, more. Whoa. We're talking about glory hole.

[Mike McCarthy]

I'm going back to the production meetings. I'm sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Jeez, Jerry. Jj, what is this guy's problem? We're talking about Jerry Jones this week. Okay. On radio show, he explains what a glory hole is. Please run this from 105. Okay.

[Mike McCarthy]

I haven't seen this. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

1053, the fan. Glory Hole talk.

[Matt Rule]

Jerry, his agent said, really? I'm getting him signed over there because I want to know Jerry's definition of glory hole and if it's the same as mine. That came from Jadevion's agent. So could you just clarify that for him?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, he knows it's an oil field term. Comes from that. When you're in the business of drilling wells, and it's when you've basically made a big well mentally or physically pictured just drilling a well and all of a sudden having all the oil start coming out at once and going in the air. And that's when you've known you've hit a glory hole, Jerry. Coach, how many times have you been either forced or heard the glory hole reference or metaphor to your football team down there in Dallas? Bring a guy in. We struck glory hole with this guy. Is that used on a regular basis? Is the oil terminology used on a regular basis down here with the Cowboys, with Jerry Jones?

[Mike McCarthy]

Definitely. No, it's definitely a term.

[Pat McAfee]

And.

[Mike McCarthy]

And, you know, it's part of his great storytelling and analogies, you know, both the oil business and the pro football. Yes, definitely. I've heard it a number of times.

[Pat McAfee]

So you have had to utilize the words glory and whole as motivation to a locker room in the NFL?

[Mike McCarthy]

Well, you know, a lot of things that are said in the locker room stay in the locker room.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah, of course, of course, of course. That's good call.

[Mike McCarthy]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Hopefully.

[Mike McCarthy]

So AJ can help. Help me out here. But yeah, so definitely. I think everybody that's worked there has heard. Has heard the term Glory hole.

[Pat McAfee]

I've never heard it before this one, so. Oh, really? Yeah, I never heard it. But you know, things aren't always staying in that locker room. As soon as your mallet hit that watermelon, we learned of it. Yes. So, you know, we need to keep this shit tight. We need to keep the sheep a little bit tighter out there. Now, can we talk about the rooms that you do have in the rooms you have to monitor as a coach in the most important position? We got a lot of question marks going into this week. Go ahead, con man.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Coach. A lot of backup QBs playing. We got Mac Jones for Purdy, Carson wentz going for JJ McCarthy, Jake Browning going for Burrow, possibly Mariota for Jaden Daniels, and Tyrod Taylor going for Justin Fields. You were basically dominating with Cooper Kush when he was playing for you guys when Dak was hurt a few years ago. What is it like coaching and preparing for a team when you know you're going to be having your backup quarterback going in and are you asking for some of your superstar players, maybe even your defense to step up, have a big week, or is it kind of, hey, let's keep this thing rolling, this is a train. Let's just get the backup in there and, you know, continue to play?

[Mike McCarthy]

Yeah, definitely. It's, I would say it's part of the rhythm of the season. I mean the 17 game season is real and you know, 16 game seasons, I mean to see quarterbacks, you know, go through a whole season, I mean that's, that's the most important statistic for any starter in the NFL, let alone the quarterback position. And as we all know, it's the most important position. So yeah, when you talk about the backup quarterback position, I mean, philosophically, I think it goes back to your roster development. You know, in the old days, sometimes you like to have a different athletic profile to your quarterback and maybe have a change up. I personally always try to prefer the skill sets to be as similar as they can because, you know, with the training regiments and being able to train, you know, all three quarterbacks, hopefully a fourth one in a room is so important. And I go back to the quarterback room. You have your starter, then you have your number two and your number three. They all have responsibilities, you know, during the off season, during training camp and ultimately in season. So quarterback rooms are critical. Who you have in that room as far as coaching, the diligence that go into it, you're really preparing yourself for this situation. You know, back when the off season program starts in My opinion. So it's all about the quarterback room. And I think every one of these guys that, you know, they're going to have their opportunity come Sunday and they'll have to support not only the quarterback room, but the whole football team. Some of the best leaders that I've come across have been backup quarterbacks before they, you know, before they got their ultimate opportunity as a starter.

[Pat McAfee]

Can you talk about that a little bit more? Whenever we had Andrew Luck, we had Matt Hasselbeck as the backup quarterback, and he acted like a buffer almost for Andrew as he was kind of finding his way in the entirety. Obviously you had success with Andy Dalton as your backup quarterback for Dak. Cooper Kush obviously had a good run. Cooper Rush, sorry about that. Cooper Rush had a good run with you. But having that veteran leader type person as a backup quarterback outside looking in, some people can say, is there going to be a little conflict here on who's alpha in room? What have you experienced with maybe two top dogs in the same quarterback room?

[Mike McCarthy]

I've been so blessed throughout my career to experience it so many different times. Back in 1993, my first year, you had Joe Montana as a starter, but Dave Craig was the backup. And Dave was incredible. I mean, you know, Dave played so much football at a successful rate up there in Seattle and so forth, so they complemented each other so very well. So. And Joe missed games. Dave stepped right in there. You know, later in Kansas City, we had Rich Gannon backing up both Steve Bono and Elvis Gerbach and. And, you know, those. And then he went on to a phenomenal stretch over there with the Raiders. I had Matt Hossenbeck as a young guy, as a backup to Brett in Green Bay. So, so many times, Aaron Brooks is a young guy behind Jeff Blake. Jeff goes down, he steps up. Aaron goes down. Here comes Jake De Loan. So I've just been very blessed to have so many guys that were ready to go bought into the, you know, the system of always being ready, you know, the development of, you know, each quarterback through quarterback school, which was a different era back then, you were able to spend more time with them. So I've experienced it on a number of different opportunities, and the latest is obviously in Dallas with Cooper Rush. He actually did it for us two times, both in 22 and 24.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you think you're the first guy that all those backup quarterbacks had ever heard speak with a Yinzer accent?

[Mike McCarthy]

Good shot. Because, you know, it's something I had to be conscious of, you know, during the week because you know, as a head coach, you kind of don't always want to have to be in charge of calling place, particularly in the headset. You like to be more, you know, mobile on the practice field. But I was told I had an accent and probably they needed to hear me, so. But yeah, there's a pretty good shot.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I love just the thought. Aaron Rodgers talked about a couple times about you calling plays in a headset. Whisky, the ends or accent just sounding. So I. I couldn't even imagine how spectacular that had Myron Coke dropping a play call. Recipes. Recipes.

[Mike McCarthy]

Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Mike McCarthy]

Old school today.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. We're paying our respects. Roberto clemente.

[Mike McCarthy]

Absolutely.

[Tony Reali]

Joe DiNardo.

[Pat McAfee]

Joe Nardo. Rest in peace, Joe Donardo.

[Connor Rogers]

Miss you, Jo. Jeez.

[Mike McCarthy]

Go.

[Pat McAfee]

He's the greatest Doppler operator of all time. Y Rest in peace, Joe.

[Mike McCarthy]

Oh, wow.

[Pat McAfee]

We appreciate you, Joe.

[Connor Rogers]

Love you, Joe.

[Pat McAfee]

Appreciate you, Joe.

[Mike McCarthy]

That's strong right there.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Joe. Said it would and it Shout out to Joe. Rest in peace, Joe. Ty has a question for you about a lot about what you just talked about, actually.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Coach. Of all those situations, when you look at San Francisco, a lot of people have been saying, hey, if.

[Pat McAfee]

If.

[Ty Schmidt]

Especially the way Mac Jones played on Sunday against New Orleans, if he continues to do that and he looks really good. And we know that Kyle Shanahan, initially, when they traded up to number three a couple years ago, it was because he wanted Mac Jones. And then, you know, through discussions and. And what. Whatever happens, they ended up going with Trey Lance. Is there ever a situation you can remember, or do you think Shanahan might be going through this right now where you almost get enamored with the backup quarterback because he's playing so well and it makes it a little bit harder to go back to whoever your starter was?

[Mike McCarthy]

Well, I think the biggest thing is, I mean, it really focused on winning games right now. But going back to the draft process, you know, it's something that I learned from Ron Wolfe back in 1999, and he always talked about always trusting your grade on a player. You know, and the irony for Mack to come back around and then for Kyle and the 49ers to now get him as part of their team. I think you have to trust the draft process, because when you look at the draft process, there's so much time and energy goes into where you put these, the grade you put on these young men at the time, and then they have their experience that could be different from each opportunity. Injuries and so many things can go a different direction. So I think this is clearly a case of trusting their process and. And now he's having success there and then with that. I think it's a great situation to be in for the 49ers, because now you have two players that you feel really good about that can win and play at a high level. So hopefully Matt keeps going and keeps playing at that level. But I think this is a great spot to be in.

[Pat McAfee]

You said trust your draft grade. That's a Trey Lance trade that you guys bring back to Dallas. You guys really liked him, and what are you.

[Mike McCarthy]

Yeah, definitely. I mean, that'd be definitely an example, you know, when trade, trade became available. And it was definitely. The conversation was, you know, we talked about the grade that initially had on him and the value that we thought it would take to get him there. So, absolutely. I've seen it happen over and over and over again where you just. You got at least bring the guy. You got at least bring the player in. At least bring him in and take a look, you know, have the conversation, and it's. It really. You got to trust that draft process.

[Pat McAfee]

So you think Shanahan after that game was like, we knew it. I knew it. I knew after he goes against the Saints and goes. I knew this is what I thought whenever we initially did that. And on that point, Trey Lance goes to you guys. You liked your draft grade on him. You get him to the Dallas Cowboys, currently with the Chargers. Right. How do you feel about Trey Lance whenever your time with him?

[Mike McCarthy]

Oh, I think he's definitely on the up. You know, he's improving. I think he's. He's. He's getting to point, the point now that he'll be. He'll be ready to be a starter in this league at some time. I was very high on Trey in my time there. I just thought he was very young, very, very raw, hard worker, you know, excellent athlete. I think he has so much more in front of him. I think you just got to really look at these players here in the last five or six years. I mean, this pandemic and things leading into it. I mean, I had, you know, I had a young. One of our youngest son. Senior year was the pandemic. So, I mean, I think that time clocks on development can be a little skewed as far as guys, you see it. We talked about a lot in the O line room, offensive line room, letting those guys have a next year to develop. So I just think patience is something that we all wish we had, you know, in the development outlook. And I think Trey is definitely someone has turned a corner. I, I really enjoyed my time working with him.

[Pat McAfee]

I forgot there was a world stoppage of events being around each other and everything. And crucial development years too. Whenever everything kind of changes. I, I don't even think until you mention it right there. Yin's are genius. Obviously football. I don't think that has even crossed my mind about like football development for players because of COVID Obviously you think about life, people being locked in their houses and separated from everybody and people, people maybe getting more deep into the Internet and believing things and seeing things and yada yada yada, that's life effects. And then high schoolers not being around each other so them interaction and how they feel publicly. That's a whole thing. Whenever the developmental years obviously. I hadn't thought about football development though much. That is certainly a thing. Oh yeah. If you go through Colts, what Colts got going on with AR at quarterback and then you talk about Trey Lance, I assume this is that other position you said, offensive line. That makes a lot of sense because that's a year of that you miss out on that you certainly need in the development phase. Wow. Hey, that was pretty profound. I want to let you know that. That was pretty profound what you just said right there. No, no, go ahead.

[Connor Rogers]

What you expect?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, go ahead A.J. go ahead A.J. coach. Why?

[AJ Hawk]

Why for so long as. Why is it always so difficult, I think to evaluate college quarterbacks coming out of their college program and making that transition to the NFL? I know so much relies on what's around a QB to make him successful. But it seems like since the dawn of football it's really tough and there's a lot of different opinions on who's going to be the guy at the next level and who's not. What do you think that is like, is it ever going to get easier?

[Mike McCarthy]

It's, it's. I think it's always going to be a challenge because of the access because you really, you know, the pro experience of getting access to really truly understand the guys is so important. I personally think it's a little, it's better because you're seeing more quarterback driven offenses as far as them running the ball that's now transferred to the NFL where you used to have to project, you know, a quarterback that was, you know, in a primary, you know, run first, you know, throw it second offense and how would he do in third downs and things like that. Evaluate his drop back passing game and so forth. But I think you see so much More of the quarterbacks with the athletic ability being used in college that now is being used in the NFL. I think that part has gotten a little easier, but it's just like anything. I just know for years, and the video is so much better. It's light years compared. But, you know, in the old days, if you didn't. If you really didn't get to get right next to the quarterback and feel the ball come off his hand and be at the workout, you truly didn't know the velocity. Now you got the instrumentation that, you know, there's so much data out there. It's. It's. Now you're on the opposite side of the evaluation curve of having maybe too much to look through and really sort down. Because at the end of the day, you know, these guys don't, you know, when you look at players that make it versus ones that don't, I don't think it's their physical capabilities. I think there's so much more data and information where these scouting departments do an excellent job there. It's really the emotional development and the emotional projection of how they're going to project to the professional sport life.

[Pat McAfee]

How do you go about doing it? We've seen like rock, paper scissors people do. There's a basketball, basketball shooting. They try to figure out the competition level, try to find out if they love ball. Like, what is the goal of trying to figure out if they're going to become somebody that's an asset to your locker room or a turd, you know, for lack of better words, is there anything you try to do in the process of scouting a player that makes you feel one way or another about what they could potentially be in a few years as humans?

[Mike McCarthy]

Yeah, I think, I mean, from the head coach perspective is different. I mean, but I think it's, you know, your scouting department. I just go back to the last one. I'm very blessed to work at two organizations who have, you know, they're different in their scouting approach, but I thought both organizations did an outstanding job of clearly understanding the player, you know, and, hey, and there's ones where, you know, there's times where you may not have all the information that you would like to have, but it really comes down to the scouts and the whole process, you know, the testing and just once again collecting the data and having an understanding of how it's presented and setting.

[Pat McAfee]

That board the right way.

[Mike McCarthy]

But I thought both the Cowboys and the packers did an excellent job in that area.

[Pat McAfee]

We appreciate the hell out of you, coach. And I know you don't like to pick games. Obviously you wouldn't want to do that or do that. But if you were over the last couple weeks with what you said, you'd be undefeated right now. Picking games. Congratulations. Congratulations. Two for two. Last week you picked the Packers. Felt like that was going to happen regardless. They showed up for you. It was a big one. You didn't pick them. By the way. You said all green goal. We put words in your mouth and had you pick the packers tonight. I think I heard you say earlier that's a lot of points. That's a lot of points for a Thursday night game. How do you see this game going for us? That will be picking games here in a matter of moments.

[Mike McCarthy]

I think Buffalo is going to win the game. That's a lot of points for division game.

[Pat McAfee]

But say no more.

[Mike McCarthy]

I'm going to go against my. But you know, it's the grain. I'm gonna go with the Bills tonight.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, geez. Okay. Oh, no.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, no.

[Connor Rogers]

Good night for the blue and white.

[Pat McAfee]

You said it's good. All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, Coach. You're the man.

[Mike McCarthy]

All right, man. See you next week.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, coach Michael McCors.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, coach.

[Pat McAfee]

He's the man.

[Connor Rogers]

The best.

[Tony Reali]

All right, man.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm not making actual picks, right? No.

[AJ Hawk]

Sounds like you like the. He likes 12 and a half though, right?

[Pat McAfee]

What are you asking me here? Well, he just kind of walked a little bit.

[Tony Reali]

He's taking a bill.

[Pat McAfee]

He's taking a good night for the blue.

[Connor Rogers]

When Joe Denard popped up, his face.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. Oh, wow. He had some profound. We're on the opposite end of the evaluation scale or something like that where we know too much. Where at one point we didn't know enough. We had to go see him. And then what was the other Covid effect and development of football? Didn't even think about that. Didn't even. Didn't even cross my mind because we had football during COVID But there were some places that didn't. Yeah. And there were some places, high schools and things like that that didn't maybe had two games or something like that because they couldn't get through all the COVID stuff in a lot of. I mean, California obviously had very heavy regulations during COVID A lot of football players come. Yeah. From the state of California. You know, there's a lot of. I didn't even. It was pretty profound. Thank you.

[Connor Rogers]

Yes, I know.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I know. Yeah. That is. It is, though it hadn't even really crossed my mind and it is hard to be patient with these guys, but also just understanding that their development kind of got by the. The world actually. Like the, the whole. We're not even diving into that. But like. But everything legitimately, like the state of the world has affected how these dudes can play ball. I know the rest of the world. World too. And that matters a lot more than just a game in a sport. I'm understanding that, but I'm talking about just in ball. I'd never really considered that the only.

[Connor Rogers]

One that's still on the same team is Trevor Lawrence. Like you look at that entire draft class. Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance, Mack Jones, Justin Fields. Trevor Lawrence is the only one who's still there. And you could argue he had some of the worst development because of what he had to go through between the coaches he dealt with when it was Urban. And then Doug Peterson who had the whole play call and debacle. And now it's Brian or Cohen. Brian Ryan Cohen already or whatever the hell his name is. Liam Cohen. There it is. I blinked on. I don't know why, but a lot of Cohen but. And then you look at Mack, he's bounced around. Fields is the only one who's actually gotten like a true second opportunity to be a starter. And even then, you know, we're. They're 0 and 2 and he's not playing this week. So it's one of those things where that. That entire covet era, I never even once thought of that. Just I think probably because the guys after them ended up being. Well, who were young.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that was. Thank God I wasn't going through high school, college during that stuff.

[Connor Rogers]

Dude. Especially with the Aussies.

[Tony Reali]

I had so much fun.

[Connor Rogers]

It's a lot of Aussie punters and kickers.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh yeah. Over for me, brother. Yeah, it would have been. But also just life development.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, like you said, like they still had. They still had football in a lot of places. But it. Can you imagine? It is nothing like it was the year before. Like, it's football, but it's like this isn't. This isn't what I'm used to.

[Pat McAfee]

Not allowed to be in meetings together, not to be in a locker room, not allowed to really train or practice against each other. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Could hear Big Ben at Acrisure, you know, that's how different it was. They were hearing him yell slay, slay, slay. And they could hear him on defense.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, don't you guys are playing the Steelers next week? Yeah. Ben is just going to tell you exactly what Everybody's doing. Just don't let him know that you can hear him because we're all kind of playing it so you guys can't hear.

[AJ Hawk]

What's that act like you cannot hear whatever he's saying.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Please.

[AJ Hawk]

As you slide to the proper leverage as the ball is snapped and you hopefully get interceptions and tips and over.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't ruin this for all of us. Please don't run this wrong. We got him next week. Don't just act like you didn't hear him.

[Tony Reali]

He didn't care. 11 0.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah. You gotta stop him. Want you to know about it, actually. And then he probably. We know Ben. Now that we know Ben, he was definitely working that. Oh, yeah. Hey, when I say slain, I mean go.

[Connor Rogers]

If I say hot route twice, go deep.

[Pat McAfee]

You know what we're talking about. Rothenberger's a dog, dude. His show is good. He was wearing a hockey helmet the other day. He's really.

[Tony Reali]

He's really stretched his leg.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

A tape job on a stick.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's. He's exploring the space, which we are grateful for. Him and Spank are doing it down there in Chef. Keep going, boys. Football. Good show. Great show. My. My TV, when I do. So YouTube TV. Probably like an app. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The TV I have. I gotta go through YouTube. What? Then I gotta go into the bottom. Yeah, to the left. Really?

[Tony Reali]

That sounds horrendous.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I don't like it at all. And I know YouTube TV doesn't like that. That's what I gotta do either. But it is what my TV offers and is the only way I know how to get in there. As somebody that's not great with this entire thing. Anytime I go to YouTube, you know, it gives you suggestions. It's bluey. Yep. Okay. Metallica. Enter Sandman at Virginia Tech. Nice. Daughter loves it, which is great. Love that. She loves that, by the way. She'll literally, alongside of it, does the entire thing. Classic Metallica, though. They don't let the whole video play. They cut it off.

[Matt Rule]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Awesome. Love the way that guy operates.

[Ty Schmidt]

Shout out.

[Pat McAfee]

Lars. He just lives. He's like, you are operating how I am operating or you're not operating at all. Mad respect. You do what you got to do. Lars. Great performance at Virginia Tech, too. I wish I would have been there. I watched the first minute of it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, right.

[Pat McAfee]

With my daughter. I feel like I got it. And then there's Rothesberger. Their newest episode. Not even our show. Not even our show on it. Not even somehow. But Roethlisberger's on there every time. So it's a new bench face that pops up on the screen whenever I'm trying to get in my bedroom. Saw him with that hawk. There it is. There it is. That was what pops up. Big pop out of me. Ben. I just want to let you know that's a big, big pop out of me. Spank's going, I'm not doing this. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

I thought this was football, not hockey ball.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I enjoy.

[AJ Hawk]

I enjoy trying to tape it with the gloves on.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's from Ohio. You know, he grew up around hockey. You know, he understands what's going on. He gets it. Him and Sid, boys, you know him on the ice. Problem.

[Tony Reali]

My God, he had 100 goals one season.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he took that. He took the stick from here.

[Connor Rogers]

It's like combining Patty Maroon and Gretzky.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Tony Reali]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Y. I think so, actually. Hockey. Better be happy he chose football. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Bingo. You're welcome.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's go through some news of the day before we make our picks and get the hell out of here. I don't want to talk about it. Oh, no. Oh, no. Everything's going right for Danny Dimes. Everything. That's not what I. Okay. Yeah. Every. Yeah. What's wrong? Please.

[Tony Reali]

Thought you'd bring up something very bad.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, no, I'm not even talking about the alien in Panama. Okay. I'm not even talking. Okay. But certainly saw it last night. Whatever the hell's going on. Wild. Yeah.

[Tony Reali]

Rest of the. In peace of that guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Everything's. Also, we'd like to thank that guy for whatever he's documenting right now. If it is real, Obviously, it is a profound discovery. But what I would also like to talk about is Danny Dimes. Everything's going his way. Him and Riley Leonard were outside the Indianapolis Colts practice facility. I don't know if you saw this, aj. And they did a closest to the pin challenge on the 105 yard hole, which goes over some water. Danny Dimes knocks it off a rock that's right next to the water, close to the pin. Beats Riley Leonard. Everything is going Danny Dimes way. I will say, Danny Dimes and Riley Leonard both have beautiful swings. Yeah, they do. I mean, it was this middle season. There's no way they've been able to play in a long time. And riley Leonard puts one to, like, 15ft or something like that. 16ft. And then Danny Dimes goes off the rock to within 10ft. As soon as I saw it, I said, colts might win the super bowl this year. It's a Beautiful thing. I'm happy we put it out there. And welcome to Indianapolis and welcome to the Colts. Danny Dimes, I think you're going to be here for a long boom right there. Boom. And to six feet.

[Tony Reali]

Everything's coming up Dimes.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what we're talking about. We need more of that happening. We need to maybe have Danny Dimes go down to the gas station, grab some scratch offs.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Because he's going to hit. We need him to just randomly start selecting money numbers so that maybe if the Powerball gets up to what it is, Danny Dime zone, what we like to call a life heater. And we are going to be the ones that are going to benefit from it here in Indianapolis. Let's enjoy it all, aj let's enjoy it all.

[AJ Hawk]

I'm saying I'm looking forward. I mean, when I see that and I think everything's going well.

[Pat McAfee]

Like.

[AJ Hawk]

Like, let's say Danny Dimes goes out, he leads you guys to a Super Bowl. You guys win the Super Bowl. He's gonna be hosting snl like February, March next year. He's gonna be all over the place to cover a gq, muscle and fitness, all of them.

[Pat McAfee]

So I think Danny Dimes understands that. He doesn't want that. Now Saturday, will he host Saturday Night Live? Maybe It'll be good.

[AJ Hawk]

He'll be really good.

[Connor Rogers]

The only thing he wants, wants to be on the COVID of is the Hard Work Times. Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. A blue collar magazine.

[Connor Rogers]

Bingo. Ain't doing anything but that. He ain't doing no gq. He ain't Joe Cool Burrow.

[Pat McAfee]

He's gonna have gloves on that are gonna have holes where the calluses are to showcase his calluses. He's gonna have boots and big jeans on. Maybe a car heart jacket. Yeah, yeah. That's what he's gonna do. He's gonna maybe have some duck paint on because he just got done shooting some ducks out there.

[Connor Rogers]

Lumberjack Weekly.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom. Him maybe. Yeah. Over his shoulder out there. That's what Danny Dimes is out here.

[Connor Rogers]

Doing that other stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. GQ magazine. You had your opportunity at the New York kid, okay? He ain't out there anymore.

[Connor Rogers]

Think about Playboy, though.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that?

[Connor Rogers]

He'll think about Playboy.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't think so.

[Tony Reali]

They might.

[Ty Schmidt]

You got to keep Danny Dimes away.

[Matt Rule]

From the duck blinds, okay?

[Ty Schmidt]

We went over this once with Carson wins. We don't need this guy to fall in love with malard hunting. And then he comes back and that's all he cares about. He doesn't care about football.

[Connor Rogers]

Sounds like a hick.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll tell you what. I've seen some. I've seen some real pictures from duck hunters. Do they ever not beat the ducks? No, they feels like they always.

[Ty Schmidt]

They kill 500 every single time.

[Pat McAfee]

Now I watch Riley Green on Jimmy Fallon. Still a show. Crazy what's happening in the world. Him. I watched him on Jimmy Fallon and Riley Green hit that duck call. He made that thing sing pretty good. It'd be hard, not if you were in the sky as a duck, to be like, oh, get me down there. And as soon as they get down there, all they hear is, yeah, oh, you think him. And they don't win.

[Ty Schmidt]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

Ever. These guys have mastered. And women. There's a lot of women duck hunters out there. They have mastered the trailing. It's almost as if they know the exact speed that each duck is going to go. I don't think they ever miss. I don't think they do either. No. Congrats to them. That got to be. Hey, those ducks, though, a lot of practice there.

[Tony Reali]

You think him and Devlin Duck Hodges go out together? Riley Green, country world together.

[Pat McAfee]

I do wonder if duck Hodges can keep up with Riley Green. I know he's a world champion. That was back in the day. Riley Green might be the big.

[Tony Reali]

You know, he might taught him something with the voice.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. All he's doing is singing Jimmy Fallon.

[Pat McAfee]

Jimmy Fallon took that thing backwards. Riley Green said, you probably don't even know which ended blowing. And then immediately on c. Back end of that thing. It was good to tv. We're out. That thing's off too. In two. Two seconds. I will say.

[Ty Schmidt]

That was an important thing to bring up.

[Pat McAfee]

We had to talk about.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yes, it was.

[Pat McAfee]

If we didn't get that on there.

[Ty Schmidt]

Then it's like, why did we even do a show to today?

[Tony Reali]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

You gotta bookend the show.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, agreed.

[Connor Rogers]

Love a good bookend, don't you?

[Pat McAfee]

That's why we always appreciate seeing your book.

[Mike McCarthy]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Shelf back there. Which one's the most recent book that you have read?

[Tony Reali]

It's a good question.

[AJ Hawk]

That's a great question. That one, the green one with the green pages, probably.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah. And we've talked about this before. You don't have a cover to the book because you don't want to judge the book by said said cover. So you actually asked the publishing companies to send them without any words on the COVID We need a blank cover around all of them except for that one. You wanted people to know what you Hand wrote it on there. You want people to know what book it was. These books, though. Did the kids. Are the kids starting to read these yet? Or any of the. Any family friends asking about maybe sharing one? Maybe leave a book?

[AJ Hawk]

I don't share these books now. You don't get. I don't share these books. No kids. This is too advanced for my kids. Maybe when they're 35.

[Pat McAfee]

What. What was that thing that they did at that place next to. I'm not a big book reader. Sorry. Actually never done it. What was the. Yeah, they had like a book. Take a book.

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Very popular deal. You go in there, you drop off a book, you see one you might like and I. Shit, I'll take this one.

[Pat McAfee]

Which book did you leave in there? While taking a very good book.

[Ty Schmidt]

I put Coach JB's book in there because I just figured someone's got to read this.

[Pat McAfee]

What does that hate me now, love me later?

[Ty Schmidt]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Coach jb.

[Ty Schmidt]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Still doing it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Tony Reali]

The audio version is unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

It's.

[AJ Hawk]

I would listen to that.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know if that includes the. Does it. Did you leave a little thing on top to plug in for the audio version, like an MP3?

[Ty Schmidt]

I should have. I didn't. I left a stick on top for.

[Tony Reali]

Whoever was gonna grab it next.

[Ty Schmidt]

Enjoy this with a stick.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah. You need to. Need to take down a stick there. All right, let's get to a break. We'll pick the game on the other side. Sounded like Coach Picard. He went against what he always says, 12 and a half all points Thursday night.

[Connor Rogers]

Josh Allen, man division game.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm gonna go against.

[Ty Schmidt]

Dolphins are gonna get throttled.

[Pat McAfee]

He didn't say that. But he did.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

And his brain said that.

[Ty Schmidt]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

At one point. That was a thought. And what came out was those look real good small points but gumpies. That make you feel better or worse about this evening? That people are going against their own rules.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Normally I'd rather everybody go against us at this point.

[Pat McAfee]

Are you going against you?

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Not a chance.

[Pat McAfee]

You said you wanted to fight.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

And guess what? You know who's going to score a touchdown tonight? Alec in gold plus 2500.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Okay. There's this touchdown. Bet they've been here.

[AJ Hawk]

Have hope he has some hope.

[Pat McAfee]

We want something to fight. That's what he said. I just.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

I know, I know there's no moral victories. But you have to show up tonight. You could. If you lose by a touchdown. Lose by three. The season's still alive with the next two Games. If you get killed tonight, it's Jover.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. If they get killed tonight, kick them.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Off the tour legitimately. And I'm not. I'm not you. That's that. You gotta fight tonight. You gotta show up. You talk, you say the culture change. You gotta do something. Please show up. You guys can't see this, but by on his hat, it literally says low bottoms and high hopes.

[Pat McAfee]

Right here, right now, we're at low. We're just pulling for him to fight.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

I'll take a moral victory tonight. How about that?

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

I will.

[Pat McAfee]

Week three fight.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

That's where I'm at.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that. I like that. I think I've been in your position maybe a couple times throughout my life in history of sports, either playing or watching. It's great that we're not. You just want to. It is great to not be in your seat right now. But I want to let you know, low bottoms, high hopes. Maybe tonight changes everything. Good. Maybe tonight brings the Miami Dolphins back to that team that scored 70 points against the Denver Broncos.

[Tony Reali]

70.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. That was recent. Oh, a long time ago. A lot of football has been played since that has happened two years ago. A lot of hopes have been smug, bothered since then.

[Tony Reali]

Might have been week three, two years ago.

[Pat McAfee]

But tonight we fight, fight, fight, fight with all our might.

[Matt Rule]

Fight.

[Pat McAfee]

Viper clues. 12 and a half take moral victories tonight. Moral victories, week three, division game.

[AJ Hawk]

There's moral victories I love.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

I watched that. I watched that live with week one. All right, that's where we're. I saw it live, week one. I watched every snap. I saw Zach Wilson come in and throw balls into the husk. Okay, I just. Just show up, please. Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

He's talking about the coconut husk, which is obviously the rubber that is used on our turf at Lucas Oil Stadium as opposed to tires. Coconut husk. Better fruit joints. What we've been told.

[Tony Reali]

Quick track.

[Pat McAfee]

And with that being said, Gumpy not only saw every snap, he heard every snap that he was the only Dolphins fan that was within. And he took. He sat there, Dolphins tarp, Dolphins hat, Dolphins flag. I think over his head, just sitting there, just taking it from everybody. And he walked out of here. We suck this and then fight against the pat. Fight against the Patriots.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, it was a fight.

[Pat McAfee]

And then tonight, maybe more fight. And then week four. Guess what? Maybe a little.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

We're winning Monday night against the Jets. Prime time again for the Fins, boys.

[Pat McAfee]

And don't worry, it's not a double header.

[AJ Hawk]

It's not.

[Pat McAfee]

Flex it out. Get it out. Of there. All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Gumpy. We love you, man.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Love you too, man. Fight.

[Pat McAfee]

Fight. I'm Christian McCaffrey, pro running back, and.

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Connor Rogers]

And so does my wife, who keeps.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Connor Rogers]

Online and in store.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Tony Reali]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[AJ Hawk]

Oh, those shacks.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, a little shack gnosis here, brother. I'll tell you what, it's getting. Saw him on Amazon. Had to pull the trigger. Yeah, don't. Don't look too old. Sweet. They're gigantic. It's a nice reminder of what shoes used to be like. These things feel like I'm putting on like old school football cleats. That's what they feel like right now. And obviously you're just supposed to wear them on day to day and whenever you're about to go wreck a rim, obviously. But these things are gigantic. I mean, there's a lot of. There's a lot of stuff around them. My toes are at the very tip of this thing. I do think they make me. Do they make me shoot better.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, I don't know if that's what they're meant for. I think so.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, I. I think that. Shout out. Hey, Shaq. Shout out, Dude. Appreciate that. That ball falling. There is good vibes and good signs as we head into week three of the NFL season. AJ Last week you won in the picks. Congratulations, you're back on the board. You know, first week you were horrendous. This past week you got hot. Is that going to continue? We shall see. Tonight, Dolphins taking on the bills at ESPN BET. It's back to 11 and a half. It was 11 and a half at ESPN BET to start the show. Some other books had him at 12 and a half. Middle of the show, ESPN BET moved it to 12 and a half. Everybody was kind of sitting at 12 and a half. Now we're back to 11 and a half at ESPN BET. Let's go to 1/2 of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP Tone, what does that mean?

[Tony Reali]

Everywhere is 11 and a half, except for one book is at 12 and a half. I assume it's just fluctuating money coming in on the Bills. So they jumped it up to 12 and a half for a second and then there was some money coming in on the Dolphins. So then went back down to 11 and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so kind of a mixed bag. What's the percentage of bets here?

[Tony Reali]

72% are on the Bills tonight, which is not surprising. I thought it'd probably be more, to be honest.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Mike McCarthy also likes the bills, both at 12 and a half and at 11 and a half. Remember, he made his pick at 12 and a half. Okay. So let's hold him to that.

[Connor Rogers]

Don't forget that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, let's not forget that. Coach Michael McCarthy, he want that type of standard.

[Tony Reali]

There was 11 and a half out there when he did bake the pick.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So I guess with our unrulys, we kind of have to go with the best option available. So he's at 11 and a half. Connor, anything you're thinking about for tonight's game?

[Connor Rogers]

The only thing is the desperation. Miami backs against the wall. That's it. I mean, no. Ed Oliver probably going to be big. Didn't really hurt the Bills last week with the jets, but with a chain and Ollie Gordon, you would assume maybe they do run the ball a bit. I don't know. It's just one of those games. Just like the Dallas Cowboys and the Philadelphia Eagles. It's not as dramatic of a situation because it's week two and not week or week three. Excuse me, not week one. But they are desperate and these games are always close.

[Pat McAfee]

Ty Schmidt 2714 can happen.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly. That's kind of what I was thinking. Especially with hearing what Sheffield said about their secondary being super banged up. Miami's. I mean, like, it's tough to envision that they won't win by at least two touchdowns. And I think even, you know, if you're a Dolphins fan, maybe that's not the end of the world you're just trying to avoid. Hey, we, we can't get beat by five touchdowns tonight. But I, I think it's very likely that the, the Bills win by at least two touchdowns.

[Pat McAfee]

Gumpy, you're hearing what everybody's saying. 72% of the world is on the Buffalo Beals right now. From the website that, that we're reading. Gumpy, you've heard it all morning. Obviously it's been a little emotional throughout times of both the pre show and even during the show. You got a little worked up there. How do you lean here? As we final. And why should we pick the Dolphins?

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Jaylen Wright also back tonight, one of our running backs. If you get Jaylen Wright a chain going and Ollie Gordon, you could control possession a little bit. That's what you have to do.

[Tony Reali]

Like, this is the thing.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

No, we have. We run for a lot of yards, but we don't run the ball is the issue. Like McDaniel, you have to run the ball. They're. They're making gains. They just refuse to run the ball. You have three good running backs. Pound the rock.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that why you're wearing that jersey? Is it like a subtle reminder to McDaniel maybe if he saw you on TV today, like, oh, we got a pretty good running back in a chance.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

He's actually my favorite player on the team now.

[Pat McAfee]

More intuit And Tyrese, this guy I like.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

This guy's always kind of big. I didn't. I had the waddle. Jersey's hanging in my locker as well. He's banged up though. I didn't know if he was playing or not.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, this is. That's what it's all about. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

He didn't do it on Sunday.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. The owner was doing it. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

And then he scored.

[Pat McAfee]

He didn't walk and he stopped because the owner was doing it. Like, you know what? This jumped Shark maybe jump the Dolphin here. Yeah. AJ 11 and a half is the spread. I know you have been seeing the. The board well here for the last few days. The NFL is unpredictable. Division games are unpredictable. Thursday night games unpredictable. Or are they? You know, they're unpredictable until they're not correct. And we got to remember there's been 90% public bet that has covered. Oh yeah. In the past.

[Connor Rogers]

Usually around this time is when the public does hit.

[Pat McAfee]

There's been games that have seemed too obvious to be true and then they were as obvious as we thought they were going to be. But there's always that thought that the games that we also have seen Is a team change who it is for one game, for four quarters, they piece it together and they're able to beat anybody. Could tonight be the turning point of this Miami Dolphins team, this Miami Dolphins franchise, this entire program organization's trajectory, does it change tonight? Do they beat the Bills? Do they keep it close? Or do the Bills win by at least 11 and a half? AJ Hawk, you will go first.

[AJ Hawk]

A lot of times in these situations when I take like the obvious pick with all these, with so many points in the NFL, I think it's tough to cover when you have 11 and a half a spread like this. We don't see this a whole lot, but I think the Dolphins know they have a great opportunity. I don't think they find a way to capitalize on it. I think the Bills win by 14 plus.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, AJ's got the Bills.

[AJ Hawk]

So what are you worried about?

[Connor Rogers]

Just hold on. He's thinking, I mean, it's a big.

[Pat McAfee]

Spread and you're seeing the board process. Yeah, you took the Bills. That does change. You're seeing the board right now. To everything Connor just said and Tone, I take into account if other people are seeing it. You know, you're one week right there. What I was doing. Is that one week of seeing it or is he actually understanding what's going on right now?

[Tony Reali]

Who are you talking about talking to.

[Pat McAfee]

Right there in my head? Me. Okay.

[Tony Reali]

I didn't know there was some sort of shaman or.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I would hope it is actually a much smarter version of me. Every time I do that have the self talk, I'm always hoping to God it's a better me that's answering.

[Tony Reali]

I picture you like Ace when he was in the, in the den and then he hovered above himself. Venture. Ace Ventura, that is.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh yeah. I remember when he was talking about whenever he was down in jungle.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, yeah, I understand probably too.

[Pat McAfee]

Your balls are shut. Yeah, go ahead.

[Connor Rogers]

I mean, I was going to say it's basically it like this is the last time all year you can bet on the. You can pick the Dolphins.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you really would like. And that might be because you're a Patriots.

[Connor Rogers]

No, no, I. I just think that the Colts are really good and I think that the. There's a chance here that the Patriots end up being a pretty solid team and the Dolphins aren't that bad.

[Pat McAfee]

And you're saying. I watched every stamp of the Dolphins last week and also I saw them week one. They look like a much better team against the Patriots than maybe they looked against Indianapolis Colts is what you're saying yes.

[Connor Rogers]

And I genuinely think the Colts are like one of the top eight teams in the NFL right now. So, like, can we really hurt them that much? Like, it's the same with the packers.

[Ty Schmidt]

But you know who else is one of the top eight teams in the NFL right now?

[Pat McAfee]

Buffalo.

[Ty Schmidt]

The Buffalo Bills.

[Pat McAfee]

Give me 2714 at least. Buffalo Bills winning that game. I, I mean, it might be. I like the Buffalo Bills.

[Connor Rogers]

I'm just really, in the end, I'm just.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't watch that whole New England Miami game. You see, that's the problem here. I haven't seen. Because I think they had good moments, great moments in there, right?

[Connor Rogers]

They had really good moments. But again, the, the other thing with the, the Miami Dolphins game is just that the Patriots, you know, their defense isn't all out there. You know, it's hard to even judge.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

That our defense all also can't get a stop.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, give me the Bills. Thank you. That was awesome. Appreciate that. Gumpy, I know you're pulling for the Dolphins tonight. I know Connor is pulling for them. To keep it close, I assume there's going to be a lot of money potentially on it. Let's go, AJ let's win this thing. Let's do this. Let's get a perfect board this week.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, why not? I think we can. I told you, I'm. I am very biased from the 10 minutes of hard Knocks episode I watched of the buffalo beals, like August 17th airing. And I saw the, the camaraderie of that team. And that is. That has stuck into my brain when I see how much these guys enjoy being around each other.

[Pat McAfee]

Shane Steichen just said that yesterday about the Colts team. He's like, hey, they hang out. They go to dinners. Multiple dinners a week. They hang out. It's just the vibes are vastly different. It's like that means something. I think we look at that a lot more than other people do. Anytime there's a mic'd up, I'm trying to see how they're interact. That's all I'm trying to see is the interaction. How's the interaction when we're watching a sideline? We're just trying to see the interaction. Hard knocks stories are cool. Guy does rocks and shit. Okay. Sick. How do they. How do they interact? That's all I want to see legit. All the teams that I've been around and been on that are good or great, the boys like each other. Whenever it's clearly that they aren't all on the same team. It's. Teams aren't good. It's just an X factor that seems to show up with great teams games and doesn't get talked about as much. I agree with what you're saying about that. Buffalo Bills hard knocks. I do. Division game. No. Thursday night. That's a short week.

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, the Bills, though, it's big for the Bills. The Bills are rolling and everyone had like. They have everyone's respect and everything. They know they don't want any let down if they go drop a game to the Dolphins. That changes their season too pretty quickly. Even though they'll be fine either way. But they don't want this to happen.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, it's. You start thinking about how the game goes and what happens. Like if the Beals with all that energy at home come out and get an early big lead, then we're talking scorched earth.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And also potentially Miami.

[Connor Rogers]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You know, turning down a little bit maybe at that moment, maybe some disagreements, maybe some miscommunication happens. But if Miami's able to battle there.

[Connor Rogers]

Gets the ball first.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. If they're able to keep that thing.

[AJ Hawk]

Then Dawson, they got to get a deep ball to Tyreek early. Like Miami needs something like that to happen early. Let's get Tyreek involved. Let's get some excitement early and get on the board. That's Miami's chance.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So let's watch that first quarter. What's the. I mean, that's a bigger question mark, I think than the overall game because how the first quarter goes, I think is how we're going to find out what the game is. If Buffalo's dominant, that's going to be.

[Connor Rogers]

Even that first drive. Because if the Bills, you know, Buffalo faithful Bills mafia gets going after like a three and out from Miami and then the Bills go score and then they play Mr. Brightside or some shit. It's going to be real hard, you know, end in the first quarter. 14.

[Pat McAfee]

Both teams want the ball here. Right. I think I would start probably. Yeah.

[Tony Reali]

I think both. Both offenses are better.

[Connor Rogers]

I could see Buffalo being like it. No kick it.

[Tony Reali]

Bills are.

[Connor Rogers]

Let our fans eat here for a second.

[Tony Reali]

Bills are minus three and a half first quarter.

[Pat McAfee]

If that if fans issue what's do we have the percentages on who's on what there?

[Connor Rogers]

What's he over under the first quarter.

[Tony Reali]

The over under the first quarter. The first quarter total nine and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, I like over there.

[Tony Reali]

I like over for that. And the whole game.

[Connor Rogers]

73.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, you're going over.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah. I want to feel alive today.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh, I love it, Tony.

[Pat McAfee]

You like that, Tony? Fifteen and a half is a lot of points.

[Connor Rogers]

It is.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a lot of points.

[Tony Reali]

Bills rush defense stinks. Dolphins stink.

[Pat McAfee]

So, okay, points, points, points.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

Once again, I would love to see Willie Gay get some. Burn the guys up. Ball of energy. He's so good. He's played two snaps all year. He's great.

[Pat McAfee]

Two snaps.

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

He's so good at football. He just does.

[AJ Hawk]

Why isn't he playing G?

[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

I have no idea. I. I put out a clip. It has like 500,000 views. No one knows why this guy doesn't play. He had two snaps. He had a tackle and another tackle for a five yard loss where he hyped up. Everybody took him off the field. New England made a third and 17 screen.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, we're excited for tonight. We're excited for Gumpy. He said Willie Gay, one of the best players of all training camp. They're saying, God, I can't. What does he.

[Connor Rogers]

Let's see what I feel then.

[Pat McAfee]

They were saving him for Thursday night.

[Ty Schmidt]

Buffalo must be.

[Pat McAfee]

It must been what it was. Tonight could be the night for the Miami Dolphins and their fans. And for that reason and that reason alone, we're pulling for him. Yeah. But on the flip side, this could be the year for the Buffalo Bills and tonight could be a big one on national prime time. Only people on to say, hey, this is who we is. If you were wondering about the Buffalo Beals, I'm excited for tonight. All right. We're going to toss to a conversation we had a chance to have with Stanford Steve and about college ball, especially this weekend. I think you're going to enjoy it. It's a segment that we're calling a Nutter College football convo with Stanford Steve. We think you'll enjoy it and also we think it'll give a good breakdown on the storylines that you need to know going into College Bowl. And on that note, be friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. Let's enjoy tonight. Oh, yeah. Okay. Let's enjoy this life. Hell yeah.

[Tony Reali]

Don't feel alive.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's enjoy ball. 50 and a half's a lot of points. I hope the overheads for all of us. Team on three. One, two, three. Team. Goodbye. You've seen the headlines, heard the debates. The three point ball has created a.

[Ty Schmidt]

Monotonous rhythm to the game.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Gumpy (Dolphins Fan)]

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