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PMS 2.0 1412 - NFL Week 3 Preview/Picks, TNF Recap, Miami Head Coach Mario Cristobal, Josh Allen, Nick Saban, & AJ Hawk
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Here we go.
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Welcome to Pat McAfee Show. I'm A.J. hawk sitting in Pat's desk here. Friday, September 19th. Feel good. Friday, fellas. Football, football, it's a beautiful thing. It was played last night. The Buffalo Beals took on the Miami Dolphins, beat them 31, 21. I guess they did not cover the 11 and a half, 12 and a half point spread that we, we all were talking about before the game. It was a beautiful game. Dolphins showed a lot of fight, a lot of fight like we talked about. Fellas. I think there's somebody down in the Miami region right now we might call into.
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Pat.
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What's going on, buddy? How you doing down there?
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How we doing? Miami Dolphins did show a lot of fight, didn't they? I mean, they came out there yesterday and they listened to one of their commanders from the Internet. Hailing from Victoria, Canada, now living in Indianapolis, Indiana, also down here in Miami, that man right there was saying, hey, I just need to see a little bit of fight, boys, to see a little, little bit of fight. And also shout out to the esp getting gumpy a camera because today was going to be epic. If the Dolphins got their asses beat last night by the Buffalo Bills, just to see this man's reactions, but I think flying with him this morning, the reaction from him and I think probably a lot of Dolphins fans, hey, we're in that thing until very late. The Miami Dolphins defense also got some big time stops. Kirk Herbstrey last night a couple different times was like, goal for Miami would be to just stop the Bills one time. Like, can you stop the Bills one time, two times. That's how we're speaking about this Buffalo Bills offense. By the way, Josh Allen comes into the season as the mvp and all they've done is just motor people Don. So people are wondering like, can anybody stop this? Is this going to be the greatest offense? Is this greatest show on turf all of a sudden up there in Buffalo? And then the Miami Dolphins defense, whenever they need to get a couple big time stops, they do that. Now Buffalo Bills punter says, I'm getting a first down, you know, and I like whenever that happens, especially in big moments. But the Miami Dolphins fans I don't think are incredibly pissed off about how it went for them. And I think Buffalo Bills fans are like, yeah, we won by two scores inevitably, and we missed a go pretty bad to the left. I mean that wasn't, that was not Matt Prater stuff at all. So I, I think Buffalo Bills fans come out of there pretty happy I think Dolphins fans come out of there pretty happy. And I think we see Ryan Fitzpatrick shirtless, AJ and that's what the magic is. You see Dion Dawkins stomach. You see Ryan Fitzmagic celebrated all night because obviously he played for Buffalo and the Miami Dolphins. But I'm pumped. I'm excited that the Buffalo Bills have continued to be great. And although we didn't cover, I. I think the Miami Dolphins fans have a little bit of fight left in them. You know, I think there's a chance on Monday night, at least the Dolphins fans that I know are the fan that I know, and I assume I'm gonna be around a lot of them. I'm here at the Shalala Student center down here in University of Miami. We got palm trees in the back here, about 100% down here. I'm gonna run into a lot of Dolphins fans. I will certainly ask them how they're feeling, but I think they were ready to maybe go ahead and ship the whole thing out of town. And if there wasn't a good performance last night, there was now. We got Monday Night Football coming up. Okay, Monday Night Football coming up for the Miami Dolphins. Darren Waller is going to be back. Gumpy, I know you're excited about that, big fella. Massive news. Darren Waller's first game Monday night against the Jets. Here we go. Win the next two.
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See what happens now.
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For all of us football fans, you probably just learned that the Dolphins are playing the jets on Monday Night Football. Yeah, about that either. Yeah. But last night was a great game, I think. Toxic table at Boston, Connor at ty Schmidt, we 1/2 of the hammer done Cowboys AP. Tone, tone. Let's talk about the numbers. Last night, obviously, I think Connor was on the Dolphins with the points. A lot of people were talking about how many points that was on a Thursday night, especially being a division game. What was the public percentage at the end and how much did the sportsbooks win here to start Week 3 of the NFL season?
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So the public percentage at kickoff was 72% on the bills to cover the 11.5 or 12 and a half, depending on where you were betting at. So the books won on that one. They lost on the total of 50 and a half. 80% of that money was on the over. So the public got the over. But if we know anything about betting, a lot more people bet the actual side than the total. So the sportsbooks, another win on primetime for them. And then the stat that we talked a little bit about yesterday, teams that are 0 and 2 and are also dogs in week three now move to 38 and 17 since 2017. So that is a solid trend to start week three right now.
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That was before last night's game there, 37 and 17 to Tone's point. So week three is like the desperation week, I think. And obviously if it's a division game on a Thursday, you're potentially going to show a little bit more fight backs against the wall, especially in the division. And we learned the stat, you go in three, AJ There has only been one team in the history that has made the playoffs and it's the 2018 Texas that were able to do it. That's a huge hole, AJ Hawk yeah.
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It'S a huge hole. But like I know we joked about it yesterday about these Miami Dolphins team, we said, hey, we gotta, we need to see some fight. A moral victory. And even I think there was people were talking about it before the game. I actually looked up Pat on ESPN maybe in second, third quarter and it says Dolphins fighting to hold on against the Buffalo. Be almost like it was like in the headline already, like this is exactly what we said. So I mean there's no moral victories. Absolutely not. But there is hope in Miami still, I would imagine, isn't there?
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Yeah, Gumpy certainly has some now against the Jets. What's that, con man? You said there's no hope. Are you thinking though, and this is a direct AFC east conversation here, I guess Patriots, Dolphins, a little bit of a dogfight last week. Then whenever you see the Bills and the Dolphins have a little bit of a game, does that put you more at ease and what are your thoughts on the AFC east now as a whole?
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Definitely puts me more at ease. Thoughts of the AFC east still remain the same. Just like, hey, Buffalo is levels above so many teams, teams, let alone the division, that it's just hard to be looking up. I can't believe there's hope. I'm very surprised that that is Gump's sentiment. Nothing looked easy for Miami. Nothing looks easy at all for them on offense or defense, let alone the punt block debacle. But when it comes to Tua, Tua seems to put everything into every throw, whether it's two yards down the field or 50 yards down the field. And I don't know what it is and maybe it's the kind of the evolution of what has happened. And it feels like the Miami offense hasn't changed since that first year where it really did revolutionize, you know, offenses and people started stealing their, you know, sprint outs before the snap. But nothing has really, you know, kind of evolved out of that. Like, me and Ty were talking about it. When it comes to, you know, LaFleur, it feels like LaFleur's offense has, you know, progressively changed and gotten better over time since he's gotten to green bay, whereas McDaniel, maybe it. It has changed and the stuff isn't working, but everything feels like they're pulling teeth to get a first down. You know, you FaceTime Rich Rodriguez and he says, shit, I'm just trying to get a first down. And, you know, he's serious. And it feels like, you know, the same thing with Miami. Like, it seems as though it is just so difficult. And it still was, you know, one of Tyreek and Waddle's best showings of the year.
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To echo your sentiment, I think we all believe that McDaniel is an offensive wizard and guru and has contributed to the sport in a massive way. And a lot of people are trying to do what he was able to do a few years back. Now it's the fourth year in that system, though, and I don't think it should. It should regress. I. I think that your culture should be all the way in there. Your offense should continue to evolve, especially when you've been with TUA throughout this entirety. So I think, you know, what you're saying about not evolving it, and I don't want this to be considered a shot. Okay. Okay. Just be considered a shot. Yeah. Especially to find people of Buffalo, because people in Buffalo are good people, love it, great people. But the Anchor Bar created the Buffalo Wild Wing. Okay? The Buffalo wing, Anchor Bar up there. Wings have gotten better since the beginning of Wings as a whole. That's correct. Anchor Bar has never changed anything. They have maintained their wing. So do I think they're the best wing in. In America? No, I do not. But is it the first wing? Yes. You know, so I think they could have, though, you know, maybe evolved and they said, no, we're the orig. This is how it's always going to be. You others can, you know, juice up the wings with things that aren't real to make them big and monstrous and, you know, cook up different sauces. And did you see the boys last night with the sauces? Did you see the TNF nightcap last night? The sausage, Tony Gonzalez? I didn't know if Tony Gonzalez was going to make. Make it through tonight, to be honest. I'm. They're. They put that guy through a lot. They get him out there in a. The kind of cold. Oh.
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Oh, looks we got me.
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They are.
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You're back cold.
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You're back now, but you're good.
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Am I. You got me? Yes, we got. We got you. Is there anybody out there? Can anybody. Hey, boys. Good to see you again. You look great, A.J. i thought you did a great job. Your face popped onto my screen as an ISO there for a second as I was kind of frozen through there. Your jawline looks spectacular. But back to the Miami Dolphins offense. I do think it should look better. Tyree Kill scored a touchdown. He also dropped a deep ball, like, a couple years ago. I think he catches that one, scores the touchdown. Interesting night, obviously, for Tyree Kill in its entirety. Didn't think that was going to be coming there in the fourth quarter, but whenever you think about Tyreek and Tua, like, this was the norm. This was like two times a quarter a few years back, and now it's like Tyreek scores a touchdown, and everybody's very excited because, oh, that can still happen for the Miami Dolphins. Is that the Bill's defense doing well, or all these other defenses catching on to what McDaniel does? Do you think, A.J. is it like the rest of the NFL caught up, the rest of the Wings Around America caught up to the anchor bar? Do you think the defenses have figured this out and he's going to have to change? Like, what are your thoughts on it?
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Yeah, I mean, they're definitely doing what they can to take Tyreek away, but I think sometimes it's everything we. We hear the comments going back and forth, like TUA and them talking about, you got to earn trust and all of this stuff that's real. Like, it's a real situation. And when you're struggling, imagine if you're Tua and you're thinking, not only am I trying to find a way to win this game and hit who's open and not turn the ball over, but also, like, I need to feed my star receivers. Like, I gotta. I don't want to have to force the ball to these guys. I just think it could be tough to manage all that. All the great quarterbacks do it. They find a way. Every receiver wants more targets, but, man, it's just. I don't know. Like I said, Miami's father. What's that?
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On that note, Richard Sherman was asked in a pre show, he was asked, is it easier to defend a team, an offense that has a star wide receiver, like a clear one, and then everybody else or just an entire committee, kind of like Buffalo has? And Richard Sherman said, number one, wide receivers are Number one wide receivers for a reason. Okay. If. If somebody's got a one, you don't. You'd much rather not have a one on the other side. But it does feel for Josh Allen like he. There's no pressure for him to put the ball anywhere. Like he's just doing whatever. Kincaid. What a weapon. How about 85? He gets the. He gets a penalty called on him when it was the other guy. 57. I think in. I think it was a punt player, maybe a kickoff player or something like that. He gets a penalty, 85 gets a penalty. Then the next time we see him on the field. Touchdown. Sick. Touchdown. Josh Allen doing backyard football. Touchdown. It was like, what a nice little night for him to have. As opposed to what he was thinking about the rest of his night. He scores a touchdown. It's like, good for you, bub. Happy for you. But it feels like Shakir can get it. Obviously, Keon can get it. James Cook is unbelievable, unstoppable. It's like they got a lot of weapons up there, and Josh Allen is just kind of doing what he. What he. Whatever he wants. Doesn't feel kind of obligated to do anything.
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Imagine not being a quarterback, I guess. Of course, quarterbacks want the best possible receivers you can get, but there is that dynamic of making sure everybody's happy, keeping them. Making sure they get enough targets. And the fact that if you're playing this Buffalo Beals offense, you can't point at one guy like Calvin Johnson with the Detroit Lions. Yeah, we got to find a way to stop this guy. We're going to put two on him, sometimes three on him, and he's still going to get his catches. He's still going to catch deep balls on us and in the red zone. But with the Bills, yet you can't. You can't zero in on anybody. They can get you from wherever you look. Tight ends, backs out of the backfield. Shakir. Yeah, I don't know. There's something to it. I mean, Josh Allen definitely feels like he. He's not putting up crazy numbers, but this guy's awesome. Look how.
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How well he is putting.
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How confident you have to be to do this.
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Kind of three touchdowns, 267 last night or something like that. There's still big numbers, you know? I mean, it. You're right.
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I guess I am. Like, I'm biased because people throw for 350. Not early on this season as much, but in the NFL, people can just put up massive amounts of yards. I feel like I agree.
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Yeah. Like cuz we see the 400 yard.
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450 game, Russ, we saw. You're right.
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Yeah. So those games do exist, which certainly is the case. And he'll probably have one of them. You know, he'll probably have one or two of those things, but he's still throwing for three touchdowns. Like last night, I would assume Josh Allen and that offense had not our best night. There's a couple big time third downs that they did not. They were not able to pick up. They got off the field. Defense got off the field multiple times against his Buffalo Bills offense. And I'm not saying anything against Miami Dolphins defense. I'm just saying the Buffalo Bills certainly did not have their perfect night on offense, so they got a lot to work on. Still. Josh Allen with the visor with a broken nose. Really cool. Yeah, I think that looks, I think that looks really cool. Ty. He said he wore a visor back in college and he said he didn't think it was the right play to come in and swag out with the visor in the NFL. Sure. Ty, can we talk a little bit about Josh Allen's story here? From Cowboy at Wyoming to guy that couldn't throw a football in the NFL, just guy with big hands all the way to where he is now. Kirk Herbstream. I say this again because I. Kirk does all the research. He grinds his ass off for every game and he's like, hey, I think this season, basically, if you stop the Buffalo Bills on any drive, you should feel like that is a massive success. That's crazy to think that that's where Josh Allen is right now. Ty.
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Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, I say it a lot. I remember watching him play against Iowa when he was at Wyoming and it was his last year, you know, when he was about to go in the draft and he was starting to get a little bit of hype and Iowa just beat the hell out of him. Absolutely waxed him. And you know, so you kind of just, you forget about that for a while. And you remember around the draft like all the talk was, you know, hey, he's got a big arm and he's got massive hands and that was kind of it. And we talked about this the other day, like that first season he was so inaccurate. It was crazy. I mean it was just the highlights we were getting were him in the open field jumping over linebackers and then it was like, hey, is this guy going to be able to survive a full season? Obviously, you know, watching him now, he's one of the toughest sons of in the league. But how much better he's gotten every single year he's in the NFL. I think it was Greeny said this morning on Get Up. He said, no, no quarterback has ever played better than Josh Allen is currently playing right now. And you know, that might be recency bias and a bit high, like a bit of hyperbole, but you look at the receivers like he is. He's just unbelievable. Every time you're watching him, you feel like you're about to see something special happen.
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Josh Allen will be joining us at 1:10 Eastern, fresh off a big dub last night on Amazon prime over the Miami Dolphins, who good fight, which we really appreciate. But yeah, the Buffalo Bills, the thing they're the things they're talking about, you know, have them going down in history. And obviously Kurt Warner would have an argument for the greatest show in turf with what their offense was able to accomplish. I'm sure there's other seasons that I'm forgetting about right now where an offense seemed unstoppable, but they're clicking and it's because of that man who's the MVP. We can't wait to chat with him at 110 now. Ty, back to you, buddy. And you too, AJ Tucker Kraft got her to practice. What the hell are they doing over there? A.J. what's going on in Green Bay? Tucker Craft pretty important piece of this Green Bay packers offense, pal.
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He is tight. Sounds like we avoided disaster, right? It's not going to be a season end or anything.
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Yeah, I mean, initially, like so even the Shefter tweet doesn't make you, you know, feel great. But yesterday Rap Sheet tweeted it out like he blew his knee out in practice, which is what I believed. I was like, okay, well this isn't great. And then, yeah, they run some tests. Sounds like he may have just tweaked it. And you know, Schefter said there another source said he thinks he'll be fine. So that, you know, if you're a Packers fan, that doesn't really give you like a clean slate of, hey, we're going to be okay. Because packers like the Bills are another one of those teams that doesn't really have a number one receiver. Like this guy is their kind of weapon X on offense. So, yeah, I understand they're playing the Browns this weekend. But yeah, as things are starting to really get rolling here, the packers cannot afford to lose a guy like Tucker Kraft for multiple weeks.
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Packers going to be worried about this. A.J. hawk, I mean, okay, yeah, He's a monster.
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I mean, Tucker Craft, he's like an emotional leader and he makes plays all over the place. So, yeah, I don't know. When you say they. It seems like it was. They got a scare, but he's not out. I don't know what he. Is that like mclp? I don't know. Something to where it's a sprain. I don't know how many weeks. Maybe put a brace on. I don't know. Scary.
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Maybe he scored a touchdown in practice and he wanted to show the boys. He said, hey, boys, Tony Gonzalez tonight is going to eat the hottest hot sauce, or maybe not even close to the hottest hot sauce of all time. He might see the end of turning Gonzalez. So in honor of him, I'm going to do a dunk on the upright. You know, maybe he yammed one. So hard, ball comes down, lands on ball, right foot, quick roll of the ankle. You know, like when you're playing hoops back in the day and everybody, oh, we saw that thing. And Tucker Craft said, my ankles are pliable, bro. And he's back. Maybe that's what happened. We have no idea. Right. There's been no exact reporting of what happened in practice.
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Yeah, correct. Other than he went on the injury report. And I did see a lot of people saying, you know, they were taking a picture from back when he was in college and just saying, hey, you just got to give this guy his medicine and he'll be fine. And his medicine in this case would be a bush light and a cigarette. I mean, he is that kind of, you know.
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Okay, good.
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You know.
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Yeah, exactly. Throwback player. So we'll see. Hopefully he can still go on Sunday. But, no, I. I haven't heard anything other than they avoided a major scare.
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Maybe he tried to run through a wall over there.
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I could see, actually.
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Hopefully, you know, maybe. Maybe it was. Yeah, because he didn't have a stud finder, you know, for the wall, so. Didn't have that.
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Right.
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So when he was running through a wall for the Green Bay packers, stud caught him in his shoulder. The reason why they said he avoided catastrophe is because if that's six inches, that's potentially right in the beat mass. Yeah, yeah. And that's a whole thing.
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But they hung the tv. They were able to find the studs and hung the tv. So it helped the team in the end.
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Yeah, he helped everybody out. And that's Tucker Kraft Football speaking about helping a team out. Jaden Daniel, mild knee sprain. We did not really think that that happened during the game. Makes sense with how he looked while he was playing against the Green Bay Packers. Obviously, Green Bay packers defense might be outstanding this year, might go down as historic whenever it's all said and done, there's a real possibility of that. But Jaden Daniels looked different than what we had seen him. And then it comes out of the game a little bit injured after woobling here. Knee sprained. Adam Schefter alludes to it on Monday. Then he misses some practices. He missed practice again today. Tone, what's the update on Jaden Daniels right now?
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Yeah, I mean this is huge. He has not practiced yet as this week and they said, hey, if he's not going to practice, he's not going to play. So that's the, that's the latest as far as like his current status. Marcus Mariota will go if Jaden Daniels went go. Mariota played two games last year. We had extended action where he went 18 of 23 for 205 and two touchdowns and then 15 of 18 for 161 and two touchdowns. So he had a good showing. Yeah, Mariota had a nice little showing last year with him and him and Cliff. But like last year, the story was Jaden like he was the story of NFL, of the NFL in large part last year and they took him to the NFC Championship game. I like, I like. You don't need to like, I don't think you need to force Jayn Daniels to play Week 3 at home against the Raiders. And that's nothing against the Raiders. I could have said any team there and I don't think you need to force to play Jaden Daniels, even though you came off this loss against the Green Bay Packers. But the line opened this week at 7. Then the Jaden Daniels news comes out. It's down to three. The Raiders are plus three at the Commanders. So I mean but as far as the season is concerned, this is huge. Like, this is. I don't know if you got like you guys had knee things like is this something sprained knee that just goes away with rest or one week of rest through a season?
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I don't know Pat. I don't know. Sprain knee usually meet. There's usually not an acl. You don't sprain your acl. It's usually something around it. Mcl, lcl, pco.
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Yeah, yeah. Spraying. Also there's something that's like around your knee. It's like a netting, I think of some sort and you can twist that, that can get twisted and it like the only Reason I'm saying that because it happened to me in a training camp right before hall of Fame game. Ball gets snapped overhead, I go back to get it, I go to pivot and turn and my cleat just kind of gives out. Now I keep my feet, my feet surely being an athlete here, but like there was like a little twist, like a quick little twist. And then obviously we still go through the period. And then immediately afterwards I'm like, holy, like something happened here. Like, this hurts. And then the diagnosis I got is like, there's a netting outside. And then, you know, that can get kind of convoluted a little bit so I can get like a little bruising. And they're like, well, I was like, how long is this going to be? And they're like, whatever your knee does. So I think it's like, I think it's one of those potentially. And I was back, I think maybe four days, three days later or whatever. And that was in my kicking leg. So very violent parts. I'm not saying that Jaden doesn't do much more running, but I'm just saying it was a very important part. And for me it was just like a few days, four or five days that I was able to get back. But for him, we have no idea what it is. Right. That's kind of the. The entire story is. We don't know what it is, how severe it is. We just know that he's missed practice. Jaden, we'll miss you. But Mark Smariota, this is a revenge game.
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Oh, yeah, big time.
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He had some big time plays for the Raiders. You remember that was a Covid.
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Yeah. And remember when Derek Carr got shot in the hamstring? Is that the one you're talking about.
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In the Monday Night Football?
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Yeah. And then he threw the. The dime to Darren Waller. Definitely Mario. To make sense, how about Pat Brock Purdy? Brock Purdy's basically forcing himself back into the starting lineup. Kyle Shanahan said that he might be able to play on Sunday. Is this strictly because Mac Jones is Kyle Shanahan's promise boy? And maybe Purdy saw Mac Jones and Shanahan make eye contact a little too much.
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I don't know. I don't know if it was us.
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I think it was more so Mac Jones on Sunday looking like freaking Brett Favre out there putting the ball wherever the hell he wanted to. Dude.
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Here's another follow up to that same knee story. They bring in another punter, Michael Polardi, lefty from Tennessee. I think he was on The Carolina Panthers. At that point, he comes in to do punt drills. When I'm out, this guy's murdering balls. I mean, just murdering balls. I'm like, oh, this GM already does it. Like me and this guy. Yeah, this guy's hitting balls. So there was a sense of I gotta, I gotta get back out here as fast as possible. And then we put on a fireworks show, you know, and then you go ahead and let the boomstick do its thing. And then it's all of a sudden like, hey, let's make sure we all remember reality around here. But then Polardi goes on and has like a seven year career after that because he was so good. I. I literally think the camp that he had with us springboarded him to go. And that might happen with Mac Jones here. That might happen with Mac Jones in this entire thing. Like he balled out. And if there's another offense that has a similar style to this, where it's quarterback decision making, accuracy needs to be real and obviously you need to be able to lead a group. It's like Mac Jones has set himself up perfectly for this. Baker Mayfield run here again. A.J.
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Yeah, I know, I know. They reports that Brock could possibly be what, the emergency backup quarterback? They say sometimes. Excuse me. I don't know, I feel like if Brock is either. Either healthy or not, either you play or you don't play. The emergency backup. I guess if you had to put him in. But I'm protecting Brock Purdy. If I'm. If I'm the Niners. Okay, Brock, we don't need to force you back in this early in a long season.
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We paid you a bunch of money. He had toe and shoulder. He had a throwing or non throw? Double whammy. I thought non throwing.
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Okay, yeah, that makes it much better.
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I was trying to see if there was any. Like, did he have a bigger boot on there on the one foot where his toe is hurt? Like how much is he. Yeah, how much is Ben Rothberger used to wear? What, like two sizes bigger? Cuz his ankle was so sprained.
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Put a metal plate there up to his knee.
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Yeah, I mean it looks. I don't know, but I, I don't.
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D
I don't see why you wouldn't go with Mac.
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It's like a. Is it like a baby version of turf toe? It's not turf toe, but it's.
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They said it's turf toe, but it's not. It's clearly not whatever Joe Burrow has.
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Yes, there's levels.
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A
We hope Joe Burr was okay. A lot of people talking about the cleats he was wearing there. Yeah, a lot of people talking about. Yeah, hey, what were they? They were saying, hey, that that version of the Jordan was being worn by Michael Jordan whenever he said in his own documentary that his feet were bleeding and they were terrible design shoes to actually play it. But it is modern day, it is modern era, so we assume that it got. But a lot of people are saying, hey, can't be wearing this. Can't be wearing these nice shoes. Oh, dude. If you want to be healthy. So cool though. They are sick. They are. I saw a lot of people talking about him. All I know is I'm going to miss the hell out of Joe Burrow being on a football field. We hope you come back better and healthier than ever. Speaking of healthier than ever, the NFL ratings, gigantic. College football ratings, gigantic. And I think if you look at this from just football fan perspective, where the NFL is, is giving an indicator of where college football can go to. Because these are just football fans happening now. I know, like, I grew up in an NFL city, okay? So the Pittsburgh Steelers, whenever they would win, the entire town was happy. Okay? So that is just kind of what I've always grown up being as an NFL fan. NFL fan. Then obviously, once you start playing college football, get into college football, go through the NFL, pay attention, everybody else's school, you naturally become a college football fan. The more you learn about it, because the pageantry, because the tradition, because of how much everybody loves it, because it's a hundred thousand plus going crazy. And it's the only sport we have in America that can keep up with the hoops hooligans over in Europe. But whatever. You see that the Falcons and the Vikings, okay, they remember they were pitching that as Michael Penix versus J.J. mcCarthy. Two relatively unknown names in the NFL. 21 1/2 million viewers on NBC and Peacock. And then on NBC and peacock, 23 million for green Bay in Minnesota. And then college. Do we have the college one? Boom. Texas A&M, 9.4 million. Okay, now Texas A and M. Notre Dame. I understand Notre Dame, massive name. Texas A and M, I guess not nationally a gigantic name. But you can literally do the comparison here on NBC in primetime football games from Saturday night to Sunday night. It's like 9.4 million is huge. Huge. This is a gigantic game. And obviously college football is on its way up. But if you look at the numbers from Sunday night, it's like college football still has so much room to grow. That's Exciting for me, AJ I think that's exciting stuff for college ball.
- [26:43]
B
Oh, it's super exciting. And they know that. That's why these college TV deals will be a big part of whatever happens in the college football landscape. With the nil and trying to, who know what, make a, you know, the 60 top teams and everybody else, all of that will play a factor. But you're right, there is room to grow if you're the NFL. Are you thinking, can we still, like, where do we go from here? I mean, that's why we're going international all the time, obviously.
- [27:04]
A
But streaming platforms, obviously. I mean, them going live on YouTube. Yeah, them going live on YouTube is such a big play. Trying to go now international. Netflix, Netflix, obviously international. Even Amazon international stuff. So I don't know how you calculate all the numbers for these games, but whenever you talk about linear ratings just still being up into 20 + million and only growing for a game that we didn't really know, like NFL's ratings king always has been, seemingly, AJ always has.
- [27:28]
B
Is there a cap, like, is there a point where it's like, all right, we're not going to find anybody else. I mean, you haven't even tapped into the international market that all the people around the world that don't even know football, really, if you find a way to introduce it to them, these stats.
- [27:42]
E
Have come out every year for the last like four years. Like, it, it continually is growing year over year. So like they're finding people somewhere. You know, I mean, it just like, there's no reason we live in a bubble.
- [27:53]
B
Don't we live in a bubble? We assume everybody watches NFL football. There's, there's lots and lots of people around the world, believe it or not, con man, that do not watch NFL or college football.
- [28:01]
D
Yeah, no doubt about it. But that is why international sick. And it's why it's awesome for college football. Like, basically the NFL has already kind of laid out, hey, this is what you do and this is where you can go and play. Like, I, I assume who, who was it that signed the London yesterday that they're going over?
- [28:17]
E
Arizona State.
- [28:18]
D
Yeah, Arizona State and someone else. Like, they're going over to England, which is awesome. Like, let's go to London. Already have Ireland. I assume they could easily do a Hawaii, Stanford in Australia in a few years after the NFL test it out. I assume they could easily send other Florida teams to Spain after the NFL tested out. Like, it's awesome that the, the number is that drastic of a separator. Just because you can see, like, oh, there. There's a lot of places that will, you know, see college football for the first time that probably don't even know that it exists. Even though they know of the NFL, they probably aren't even that much locked into the whole entire, you know, Colts, Ohio State type vibe that, you know, college football brings.
- [28:58]
B
Yeah, college is such a regional situation where it's, you know, it grows there, but then becomes a national brand. Another team, I think that is a national brand. Pat, who do you have with you, buddy? You got someone down there?
- [29:08]
A
Ladies and gentlemen, two time national champion as a player, obviously an absolute dog. The current head coach down here, Miami, ladies and gentlemen, Mario Cristobal. Yeah, Coach.
- [29:20]
B
What's up, brother?
- [29:22]
A
It's hot as hell down here, bro. So. So this humidity is all day, every day. Is this is.
- [29:27]
F
This is mild now. I mean, August is about maybe twice what the. What you're feeling right now. This is. This is on its way to being like dream weather.
- [29:34]
A
Okay, so you're playing Florida this weekend. We talk about this in the NFL because Michael Lombardi brought it up one time. Whenever you're playing, like, Miami and you're a northern team, that is a weapon for the Miami Dolphins because they're in the heat. They are. Do you view your team as maybe more cardiovascular, muscular, are more conditioned because they have to train in this. It's almost like training at altitude, AJ because of how thick it is here. You're in a sauna, basically, all throughout. Do you feel like your team has an advantage? Because that obviously not against Florida, but in general as a whole?
- [30:01]
F
Well, we work at it. You know, back the days of coach Jimmy Johnson, he always used to tell us that football rewards those guys that are in great shape and fatigue will make cowards out of everybody if you let it. So we. We always ingrain that in our minds when we're training in the offseason.
- [30:16]
A
Well, I. I'll tell you what, I become a coward real quick in this, you know, pushing the buttons. How do you feel about the team this year? Feels like it's been fun. Carson Beck, it was talked about whenever you brought him out in from Georgia. Obviously, big money play is what everybody was saying. Big money, big money. That was the reports on the line. You did that with Cam Ward as well. I'm not saying the money was a part of it, but I'm just saying, like Cam Ward, you bring him in to lead the team, he obviously does his magic, becomes the number one overall draft pick. When you're Selling Carson Beck on the program or talking to Carson Beck, why do you feel like he's good for the program? And when you're telling him what it could be like, is this exactly what you're telling him? Basically. Is it working out exactly how you both thought it was going to be?
- [30:55]
F
Well, three games in, we feel awesome about the progress. I mean, when you watch him on film, 23, he had a phenomenal year, and 24, he did have a good year, but the pieces weren't quite in place. Like he had him in 23.
- [31:05]
A
Right.
- [31:06]
F
It was a very. Scheme kind of morphed into something different, and we felt that our offensive line, our skilled players, our running game, and then surrounding him with just, you know, a certain type of environment that he could really thrive. And the guy's a competitor, he's an awesome, awesome teammate, and he's a natural leader. So so far, it's working out pretty well.
- [31:24]
A
The leadership thing, can we talk about how important that is whenever you bring in these veteran quarterbacks? Because I think the way people are talking about Cam Ward in Nashville right now, about how, like his own aura, it just. It radiates through everybody else. Cam had his own way of leadership. Carson's style of leadership, how is it in the building and what. What can do they compare to each other?
- [31:42]
F
Yeah, I thought it was really neat because he didn't participate in spring ball, so he had a watch, but he was involved in every walkthrough, involved in the running game, pointing out protections. He was always engaged and that. That holds a lot of water, man, you know, with your teammates and whatnot. He was always in there. And his knowledge and the time he was, he was investing that just gained a lot of, you know, attention, a lot of trust from his teammates. And once he started playing, they saw him rip the ball and they say, okay, this guy's a dude.
- [32:06]
A
He looks like a veteran, too. Just so comfortable, you know, running the offense. We talk about that in college football. Obviously, you've been in college football a lot longer than us and know it a lot better than us, but just having a quarterback that can operate and just get you through, I think is a huge advantage at the beginning of the season.
- [32:20]
F
Yeah, it is. You always look at your team like, what's it like? Right in the belly, like right in the gut, right your center, your quarterback, your tailback, right your nose tackle, your linebacking, your safety. Is that made up of a veteran, hard nose, experienced crew? And we feel that when those pieces have a lot of experience and they have a lot of resilience and toughness and they're callous kind of dudes. You always got a chance to be good.
- [32:41]
A
Got to build through the middle. Ajayhawk Mike linebacker back there has a question for you. Coach.
- [32:45]
B
Yeah, coach, what do you expect in this Florida Gators team coming in Saturday night? Obviously they're going to be kind of upset coming off a loss, but what do they, what kind of challenges do they present to your team?
- [32:55]
F
Well, they're one of the most talented teams we've seen in four years. They've got speed, they've got size, they've got great scheme, great coaching. I mean they're as good as again as any team that we have faced. So we always expect everybody's best and we're looking forward to an unbelievable opportunity.
- [33:08]
A
Florida games, obviously, you know, you went to the U Florida games always have a little extra juice, you know, especially this year, felt like everybody was going to go on a run and then obviously Florida has there a little bit of a slide. But I feel like from what I've been told from Florida boys, that does not matter. A lot of people know a lot of each other here and every time you play each other, it's a very familiar style of game against the guys.
- [33:28]
F
Yeah, I mean rivalry games across the country, right? You're never all the way in the win column, you're never way all the way out of the loss column. Like it's always a back and forth, the energy, the intensity, all the hype and noise surrounding it, it's, it's a different level. And so our job is to make sure that be becomes a non factor and that we focus on doing our job and not letting anything get in the way of that. But the intensity that these guys, knowing that they know each other since high school, youth football, you name it, they played each other for a long, long time. So the intensity through the roof.
- [33:58]
A
How often do you guys jump in that, up in that big ass pool? I just walked by, they got a huge pool in the middle of the campus.
- [34:03]
D
Must be nice.
- [34:05]
A
Yeah, I think there's a high dive to. Yeah, there it is, there it is right there. I mean there's a high dive that's over there. I mean the campus is alive.
- [34:11]
F
That's our freshman dorms of condos right there that overlook that. And then, you know, good recruiting opportunity here.
- [34:17]
A
So we got a wall there. Party just told me we got no shot at getting that time to mind. No shot. He said we ain't got it. Can't get to the pool. But beautiful campus feels alive, too. Very much alive.
- [34:27]
F
It is, it's. I mean, they have. Our president, Joe Trevor, has done an unbelievable job. And then those that have come before, I mean, they have built. And it's almost looks like a resort in a private school setting, so that's hard to beat. So we're super blessed, man.
- [34:40]
A
It is a resort down here, boy. So I can see how people kind of move.
- [34:44]
D
It looks nice.
- [34:44]
A
Tone has a question for you back in the Thunderdome, Coach.
- [34:47]
C
Yeah, Coach, I do a lot of people already talking about how you might have the best O line, D line combo in the entire country. And obviously, you've paid quarterback the last two years because that's the most important position in sports. But after that, like, do you got. Do you know? And is it part of your philosophy, like, hey, we need to get O line, D line, right before we do anything else?
- [35:09]
F
I think you have to, because those are the two positions that take a little bit longer to develop than the other ones. I mean, you see a lot of plug and play, receivers, running backs, DBs, and the big guys, right? They have to get bigger, stronger. Their bodies have to be accustomed to all that pounding and whatnot against bigger bodies. So we. We certainly felt that that was the path for us to start rebuilding Miami.
- [35:28]
A
Can you talk about the Miami legends, Michael Irvin? Okay, I saw him last night. He was all jacked up on the Internet talking about hitting a siren. Ain't missed a game last week. He wouldn't miss this one. We see him on the sideline. I think he's on all fours sometimes. He's alongside of it, obviously. Ray, Ed, Reggie Wayne, I mean, the Rock obviously is an alumni member here yourself. It's like, is it starting to feel a certain way back here in Coral Gables? You know, is there. Is that conversation taking place about how when the football team is great, the entire university maybe has a different type of aura around it?
- [36:00]
F
Well, you know, I mean, I've been coming to this campus since I was knee high, brother. I want to be a Miami hurricane my whole life. And I'm a nobody compared to those legends you mentioned. But the attraction was seeing these monsters, these like absolute legends come back all the time and be involved in giving back and impacting the players on the team. The fact that they're back, the that fact, fact that we're improving and we got a long ways to go. We don't. We know we have a lot of improvement to do, but to see the momentum that's being Generated, brother. We just want to work. We just want to, like, shut out all the bullshit and just get right at it. Get to work. Yeah, and just go get better, you know, we play an awesome team on Saturday. Tomorrow. We just want to get to work, man.
- [36:38]
A
I love everything about that also. I love that. Not only just shut out all the noise and work. I heard your jiu jitsu guy. Is that accurate?
- [36:48]
F
You want to fight me?
- [36:48]
A
I almost shot on you right there. I want to let you know I didn't know what our relationship was. I didn't know what our relationship. I didn't know. I don't know. If you were to watch that clip back, you would see me looking at you and literally just, like, figuring out whether or not I should fake for a single leg. Right now. I'm happy I did. Look at his ass. He's ready to punch me in the face. Oh, we'll see. We'll see. We still got some time left on this. The toxic table has a question for you, coach.
- [37:15]
D
Yeah, coach. You were a walking pancake block back in the day, by the way. Don't know. Don't be so humble in comparison to those other guys you just mentioned. But with everything Pat just mentioned about this team and how you guys do block all the bullshit out, if you could maybe mentally go back to when you were that walking pancake block for the U in the 90s, how much of this team reminds you of those teams that you won the natty with back then is the very close team. How's the commercial camaraderie? And do you see kind of the same trajectory and path that you went on back in the day as this team does this year?
- [37:52]
F
I think that was a time and a place that will never be duplicated. I just got to be honest with you. It was a day and age before social media, cell phones. I mean, oh, yeah, that was a really edgy bunch. I mean, these dudes were. They were real now, and. And they were awesome teammates. Within a week of being on campus, you were part of the brotherhood, and life changed forever. And so what we're trying to do now and our players, our former players are helping us, we're trying to kind of get away from going back. We're trying to get into moving forward, moving Miami forward, and the principles and values of what those guys implemented here, be a huge part of that. That's what we're trying to do. But do you sometimes have flashbacks from some of those incredible, incredibly talented, and, you know, half crazy players that I had a Chance to play with. Absolutely. And, and God bless, man. That was, that was the best part about being a Miami Hurricane. I mean, I mean, I'm want to live and die being a Miami Hurricane. I love it. And the fact that we're starting to get better, we got a long ways to go. The momentum is real. The fact that you guys are here is an honor and we just want to get focused on the game.
- [38:54]
D
That's a great pound.
- [38:55]
E
Wow.
- [38:56]
A
He was trying to set the tone right there.
- [38:58]
D
Pound right there.
- [39:00]
F
Leg over here.
- [39:01]
A
Hey, way to stay, way to stay alert. I see that now.
- [39:05]
B
You're set. I know you're taking a couple brawl, man.
- [39:07]
A
Yeah.
- [39:08]
D
Check this out, Coach.
- [39:09]
B
Look at that.
- [39:09]
F
You got to work on that, man.
- [39:10]
A
What?
- [39:11]
F
Got a lot of work, brother. I'm just saying.
- [39:16]
D
Show them the screen.
- [39:18]
A
Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, got the screen. Let's see the screen's coming.
- [39:20]
B
Okay, here we go.
- [39:22]
A
Boom. We kick, bang. You see that? And then we're out.
- [39:26]
G
We're.
- [39:26]
A
We're out. You see that?
- [39:27]
D
He got Aiden Hutchinson, coach. He got Aiden Hutchinson at the Super Bowl.
- [39:32]
F
Well, you, you wouldn't be getting much nil from us, you know, with that technique.
- [39:36]
A
Jeez Louise, I thought we're handing out bags of cash around here. The talks to table. That's another question for you, Coach.
- [39:42]
E
Coach, speaking of that, you mentioned how these in state games, you know, tend to be a little bit different. Last week, South Florida, this week Florida, and then obviously not looking ahead, but you have four Florida State. When it comes to recruiting, how important are these in state games? Like, will you notice sometimes that your entire recruiting class, you know, can maybe shift a little bit if you aren't successful in these games? Because we obviously know the U is at its best when you guys record recruit Florida the way that you have.
- [40:10]
F
Well, I think, you know, performance on the field and trajectory of a program always has an impact on recruiting. These things go down to the wire, man. You know, you see some big time victories in September, then you see some flips and some other drastic changes in recruiting. I mean, it's almost like, yep, there's a football season, but there's also a recruiting season and a lot of times it's tied to it. But with these three schools, don't be surprised the way that it goes in so many different directions. So all focused on just busting your butt, man, and doing everything possible to get the right, the right type of guys here, man.
- [40:42]
A
Isn't that what they always say? Like, you don't like recruiting? Isn't that what everybody always says about you.
- [40:46]
F
No, no, we. We get after it, you know, we.
- [40:48]
A
Yeah. They say you recruit 25 hours a day. Isn't that what they say?
- [40:52]
D
Go to recruiting. The reason Bama was Bama, some people.
- [40:54]
A
Would say is because of you recruiting 25 hours a day.
- [40:59]
F
It's. It's a product of when everybody gets on board. You know what I mean? It's. Recruiting is never a one man show. It's a buy in from everybody. And quite honestly it's, it's. I mean these players are families. They could see if guy's a. Of, you know what? If you truly believe in what you're selling and. Yeah. And if you want people to come in right. And be like for real and be part of it, then I think they could see.
- [41:20]
A
Right.
- [41:21]
F
They see right through the real and the bs and we've had a great track record so we want to keep attracting the best of the best.
- [41:26]
A
Yeah. Well, it's fun that your team is very good and it is exciting that game day is here. You need to know that like we are very thankful whenever we get a chance to go to places, especially me, that I've never been before for this show. I'm very thankful to learn about how it operates around here. I'm excited to see your fan base. I'm excited to see you tomorrow morning. I'm pumped to kind of feel what a game day is here because obviously this place has a lot of history in the sport of football. Go ahead. A.J. hawk.
- [41:51]
B
Yeah, Coach. You mentioned recruiting. When you are recruiting, like where do you take them? There's so many options you have. I think there in the Miami area that other like college. College cities do not have what you guys have. I would imagine that's a huge weapon. Like what do you do typically if you bring a, like say you bring a big five star in for an official visit, where do you. Where are you taking them?
- [42:10]
F
Like you mentioned, there's so many places. It starts with campus. I mean this thing has exploded into being one of the nicest places in the country. And again we're in Coral Gables. So you want to show them Coral gables and where 95% of life is going to take place. And in the day and age of nil, we're very well postured to. To present a model that's both private from an academic setting, private from a take care of your business and a football setting, but also from a business standpoint being in economically, you know, the fastest growing city in the world. So there's a Lot to sell. I'm not going to give up our, you know, where we go and whatnot to pass that information on. But you guys are more than welcome. We'll take you guys if you want to.
- [42:48]
A
I think you'll like it. Yeah, we'd like to go on a recruiting visit here. I think that'd be a fun time. The fastest growing, growing city in America, Miami.
- [42:56]
F
Is that what you said economically?
- [42:57]
A
Oh, there's a lot of money coming here. Good time to have that. Also. Good time to be a great recruiter. Do you hate the one transfer portal window in winter, or do you just are the way it sounded? Like every college coach that I've talked to, anonymously, of course, has said, happy that it's not two windows, but I think everybody would have preferred the spring one in the football world. World. Do you agree or not agree with that, man?
- [43:21]
F
There's no perfect answer. I mean, the one. Everybody's all for the one. You wish there was some type of waiver where if it was in the middle or when I say the middle of the actual football season, fall and spring, if it was in January, February, you wish there was some type of waiver that allowed you to visit guys and they could start school a little bit later as opposed to scrunching it in that short window.
- [43:40]
A
Got it.
- [43:41]
F
Because it's really. It's not fair to anybody. So we're all trying to find the answers, and it's imperfect, but adapt or die, man. It's that simple.
- [43:47]
A
Yeah, it was a big decision. I think that was made this week by the NCAA having the one transfer portal. It's a wild time. And I appreciate you saying adapt or die. I was like, oh, aj, did you see that? I got. I got these. I wore my Adidas shoes down here for you guys, too. Yeah. Hey, what's.
- [44:04]
F
Roll around, choke his ass out.
- [44:06]
B
Yeah, please do. Coach, could you show us what that might look like? You don't have to do it, but can you show us what the technique looks like?
- [44:11]
A
Maybe you're talking about my technique.
- [44:14]
B
Coach got you like in a rear naked choke. Like what he have to squeeze and put you out.
- [44:18]
A
We know what a rear naked choke looks like. I don't think he has to show it. Aj, look at.
- [44:22]
D
Look at that power stance. Right leg back, right there. He's ready to throw one.
- [44:26]
A
Holy.
- [44:27]
C
Maybe he's an arm bar guy.
- [44:28]
D
Jeez, the weeds. Coach, calm down.
- [44:30]
A
Are you an arm guy? Are you. What are you? Are you a chok? Are you a heel hook guy? What type of Jiu Jitsu guy, Are you. What is your kind of your move?
- [44:37]
F
No speak English.
- [44:41]
B
You. You ever roll with J Laser?
- [44:43]
A
Muchos, yeah. Have you ever rolled with anybody that is fighting like that? Currently that we would know that. Are fighters. Do you go to any of the fighting gyms or anything like that?
- [44:51]
F
We get a chance to go to a lot of the, you know, a lot of the events that are in town and whatnot.
- [44:56]
A
And.
- [44:56]
F
Long story for another day.
- [44:58]
A
No. How'd you get into it? That. That's Jiu Jitsu.
- [45:00]
D
Yeah. Joe Missoula, Pat John, like, he's got to stay focused.
- [45:04]
A
He's got to stay focused on again. Big game against Florida. I can't be talking about how I rip people's heads off, okay? That. That is not what we're doing right now. We're trying to win a game tomorrow against Florida. We appreciate your hospitality. This is beautiful. Appreciate. Good luck tomorrow, man. And, guys, thank you.
- [45:22]
B
He just didn't want to show. He didn't want to, like, rip Pat's head off. Right? Is that what it is?
- [45:25]
E
Yeah, I know I might be.
- [45:26]
C
He's a monster.
- [45:27]
E
For me getting this wrong, I get the impression that he's a known nonsense.
- [45:34]
B
National champ. That's amazing. I love how he stuck with him. Long story. Long story.
- [45:38]
A
Not for. He wasn't kidding either.
- [45:39]
E
When Pat shot for that fake single leg right away.
- [45:43]
A
Yeah. He was pissed.
- [45:44]
E
Ready to go.
- [45:45]
A
He's the man. Huge.
- [45:46]
B
I mean, he's. He was impressive. Impressive, Situ. I mean, guys love him. That's why he's a great recruiter. He's. He's a. Like you say, no nonsense. I think he's still coaching. This guy's hard. You know, I think we can push guys like.
- [45:58]
D
Yeah.
- [45:58]
B
I think he coaches guys like he wants to. Exactly. And he holds them accountable.
- [46:02]
D
Yeah. And that Bama thing's real. Like, he was a recruiting coordinator in the teeth of their dynasty.
- [46:07]
C
14 or whatever.
- [46:07]
A
2013, whatever.
- [46:08]
C
Yeah.
- [46:09]
A
The whole time.
- [46:09]
D
It was insane. It was from no lying that they.
- [46:12]
C
Had just dominant offensive line.
- [46:13]
A
Yeah.
- [46:14]
D
It was incredible. And that was all him. And I don't think a lot of people know that. I didn't know that until, you know, before the season started. And I think we talked to him, and that was kind of the. Oh, holy. This guy basically really did recruit all the biggest guys that have come through Bama that you're thinking of in your head right now, you know, after 2014 or whenever the hell it was.
- [46:33]
A
Well.
- [46:33]
C
And then people kind of forget. He had to Transition Oregon from the Chip Kelly era, which was just all speed and all, like, smaller guys into what they currently are. Like, he was the bridge because we.
- [46:44]
B
Build the whole roster.
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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And they won multiple Pac12 championships for when he was there. It was. It was like a, you know, can Oregon win the big game type thing while he was there?
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A
But he.
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C
He's now done it, you know, with Oregon, you know, turning that program, not turning it around, but like, transitioning it into what it is now. And then Miami definitely turning it around and bringing it back.
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E
People. People kind of killed him a little bit when he left Oregon to go to Miami, you know, even though, like, he went there and obviously was very successful there, but it was like, what the hell are you doing? You know? And then early on, a couple of those things happened. And I don't want to say people were calling for his job because that's. That's not the right way to put it, but, like, it was loud. And then for. For. For them, you know, to look at where they're at right now. It's like they're arguably the best team in college football right now, man.
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B
Which is wild to think of. Do we. Did we get an answer? Is Michael Irving going to be on the sideline?
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D
Sounds like it.
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A
Yes.
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D
Sounds like it. Sound like he said he would not miss this one. This does feel like one of the bigger Miami rivalries because there are a bunch of them. But is the U. Is it this one or Florida State?
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E
Probably Florida State.
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D
Florida State, sure.
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B
Yeah. But I just. I can imagine if you could have. You could have Michael Irvin on the sideline. I'm having Michael Irvin.
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C
Fun little fact about the Miami schedule. They only leave Florida three times the entire season, and they don't leave Florida. The first time they leave Florida is November 1st to go to SMU in Texas. So they won't. They won't feel any type of cold, most likely until that November 22nd and 29th games against Virginia Tech and PIT. So a nice little. A nice little wrinkle to their schedule to start the year.
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A
Yeah.
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D
Nice little flight for Stanford to October 25th.
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A
Coming down to Miami.
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D
Yeah, that we.
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B
That's not a bad deal. I take that all day long, I guess. Right, Tone, what are people thinking about? What are the gamblers thinking about this game?
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C
Yeah, everyone's on Miami.
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A
It's.
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C
It's.
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B
What's the line?
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A
It's.
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C
It moved from seven to. I just saw it at eight and a half at a couple books.
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H
So it's.
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C
It's trending up just because Miami has. They haven't looked great in every single game and area so far. Versus Florida, who people are coming off back to back weeks where they lost to USF and then lagway through five interceptions last week at LSU. Even though 20 to 10 against LSU at LSU.
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B
Five picks with five picks, one of.
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C
Them is wild, one of them being a pick six is not a bad result. So I. This is a. It's a dangerous game for Miami, especially with Florida State next week. But I assume they're going to be ready and they're going to take this one super seriously and then put pressure on Lagway to hopefully, hopefully, you know, kind of caused those same turnovers that LSU did last.
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B
Absolutely. I think Pat and coach have. Have wrapped up. Pat, what's going on, buddy? How are you, dude?
- [49:12]
A
It was a great time. I don't know if you know baseball team, national champs.
- [49:16]
E
Hell yeah.
- [49:17]
A
Come on, team. That's sick. They've seen what I did with the Washington Wild Thing. They see my on base percentage. They saw what I did in the outfield and they said, you know what GM said for Miami Baseball said, you know what? Get the guy tarp, bro. All right, let's go, Hurricanes. Let's go win another one. That is awesome. You know what we do, Ty? Ty, you know what we do?
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C
What's that?
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A
We got quick pop times. Oh, yeah.
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C
You learn from J.
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B
Around what position? What are you playing? In the field. You playing catcher?
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A
No, right field.
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E
He's playing right field.
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A
Okay, thank you. Yeah, they saw me. I'm already a professional, so I actually had to go through an entire NCAA thing because I played for the Wash. The Wild Things. As you remember, we're in what. What farm league was that? It wasn't called Bush league.
- [49:59]
E
Frontier league.
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A
Yeah, Frontier. There it is. Yeah. Something similar to bush league.
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E
Definitely not bush league. It was not bush league.
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A
I agree. The Washington Wild Things do not run a bush league operation. Run a great operation. If you get to a game, you should go, good beers, good food, good times, good vibes. Washington Wild Things, baseball. And obviously we lost by 40. The game that I played. Not because of me. I think, Tyler, what people say, absolutely not.
- [50:23]
E
You're the. The pitcher. That game got roughed up a little bit, Couldn't get it out, unfortunately, and actually kept. Kept Pat quite busy in right field, believe it or not, was the biggest you did.
- [50:34]
C
Pitcher was a bit nervous. It was the biggest crowd he's ever pitched in front of. He did not handle the lights well.
- [50:38]
E
That and I couldn't believe it. I saw the lineup card. I was like, jesus Christ. They got. They got five lefties in the lineup. They're just going to be peppering balls to Pat all night. But he e hog in there.
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A
So that's what happened. So that's what happened. Actually, Ty told the pitcher that before the game. Ty goes, hey, saw the lineup. Lot of lefties. That's going to pad a lot. And he goes, yeah, that's what the pitcher said. That was his response. Yeah, that was two hours before the game. So I think he was maybe defeated before he even stepped foot on that mound, I think potentially. And I'll tell you what, some guy hit a home run on him. That's still going. Do you remember that?
- [51:12]
E
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
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A
What was that? That maybe this. The second out or something. Go ahead, Ty.
- [51:17]
E
I'm sorry. No, I was gonna say that they had that, like, massive batter's eye, like, out in. God, I can't. It was, like, right center, maybe. Yeah. And this guy hit it. Maybe it landed in Morgantown, 250ft over that. It is. It's still going. It's still going.
- [51:32]
A
It might have been the biggest home run ever hit in a baseball game that was being watched by people, you know, like, that is how that is. How big of a that is. That the biggest ball I think I've ever seen. And obviously, it was nice to play baseball. So shout out to GM from the Miami baseball team, back to what you're saying about Florida. Miami, obviously, huge implications here if Miami wins this one. Obviously, they still got Florida State, but they're really on a. Yep, let's go. You know, there's a conversation tomorrow at the beginning of game day that's like, there's a lot of teams right now in college ball that are undefeated. It's like, one of them probably going to have a great run. At least one of these teams that are kind of, you know, not normal normally in the conversation. And last year, especially with the new 12 team, CFP, if you're in an ACC or Big 12, like, you still have ways in, like, even multiple people. So there's a lot of teams right now that I don't think we would normally be chatting about a potential championship run. And maybe we're still not at that point yet, but it's like, there's some schools that are going to go on some magical runs this year that we're going to talk about all season, and I'm excited about it. I think the nil and transfer portal has brought that to fruition. There's also some teams in the NFL now. One team, I guess the Miami Dolphins. 0 and 3. 0 and 3. There's some completely defeated teams who have yet to play their Week 3 NFL game. But we're staring down potential 0 and 3s for a lot of these teams in the stats. The way they talk about zero and three teams having success, it's like there's none of them. There is no success for zero and three teams. And I think that's scary whenever you look at that list of teams that are completely defeated and could be staring us down, especially teams that we had a lot of high hopes for. A.J. hawk. Whatever. You put the. Yeah, there we go. So look at the teams that we have on here.
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D
Yeah. As well, too.
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A
Did you imagine if the Chiefs. Yeah. How's that happen?
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D
No idea.
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E
Good question.
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A
The whole reason of the graphic was for the Chiefs.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Wasn't it?
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D
Yeah. Chiefs and Texans. Yeah. That was the whole reason.
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A
Like, actually, I think that A.J. you were actually there for the entire conversation, I think, weren't you?
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B
Yeah, I was. Because we're trying to figure out, hey, who has a chance that is completely defeated right now. The Chiefs are one of those.
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A
And the whole thing. The whole thing was like, are the Chiefs gonna miss the playoffs?
- [53:37]
D
Yeah.
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A
Are the Chiefs gonna miss the play? Like, if they end up going Owen, three are the. And they not. Are they gonna miss the playoffs? No way. A.J. hawk. We're not putting the Chiefs in that department yet, are we? But stats will say there's a chance if they don't pick up a dub here.
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B
Yeah, you just have no room for error. I feel like if you fall behind zero and three, imagine, like up against every single game. You're thinking, okay, every third down, we don't convert. Oh, there he goes. Our season's.
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A
We're screwed now.
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B
We have no chance.
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D
Well, and the other thing, too is like, we just watched last night with Josh Allen and it feels like we're. Wait, it used to be Mahomes, that that was that guy. And it's not right now. Like, Josh Allen, we said he doesn't really have a number one, you know, and he's just kind of slinging the ball around, just distributing whoever's open. Whereas the Chiefs, like, they have Kelsey, sure. But they don't have, like a true number one. And they don't have like, the same type of kind of flair that the Bills have had right now.
- [54:27]
E
They don't have James. They can't run the ball.
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D
Yeah.
- [54:29]
B
James Cook is legit. Man, I love watching that guy run.
- [54:31]
C
And if you look at those. Yes, if you look at those, like those teams up there right now. And the Chiefs were favored to win their division in Texas. Texans were favored to win the division. So those are like the two surprises right now. Both those teams are on the road this year. This week. Texans are going to the Jags. They're actually one point dogs. And then Chiefs going on the road to the Giants on Sunday night. Minus five and a half point favorites.
- [54:55]
A
Right.
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C
Could you imagine if they lose to the New York Football Giants on Sunday Night Football, what the reaction will be Monday?
- [55:02]
A
Oh, my God. It'll be his historic from people that aren't Chiefs fans. Now, Chiefs fans will still be bummed out, but boy, the rest. Wow. Hey, that's good. Hey, behind the scenes, that's great work. Hey, that's why you got to point things out that are wrong so there's an opportunity to correct and make it even better.
- [55:20]
B
Good work, boys.
- [55:21]
A
We got better today. Growing. We did get better as a team. Now we had two bags of chips and a donut less than 30 seconds after bull rush leaves. That's underdone. But we're able to obviously adapt to make some magic here, which we respect and appreciate. But the entire world, if the Kansas City Chiefs were to go completely defeated 03 and be a part of that statistic, has only one team since 2000 if ever has made the playoffs after starting Owen 3. Man, people would be dancing on their graves so loud. And Connor, you know that because it was what everybody did to the Patriots whenever they were on their run, anytime they would lose a couple games.
- [55:56]
D
Yeah, exactly. You're kind of setting yourself up for one of those you're on to Cincinnati situations, especially when you do look back, you know, historically throughout the dynasty, the Patriots September record was never good. And it feels like that might be the little overreaction is that Mahomes is a God in September. You know, everyone says he never loses. It's always a hot start. And that's not happening this year. So the overreaction is even more so. Not to mention the Taylor Swift, Travis stuff over the the summer. Like everything is so bad for the Chiefs right now on the outside that it makes me think like probably the right time to bet them to win the super bowl is right now.
- [56:33]
A
Yeah, actually, for sure. I mean, actually, they usually win these games.
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B
They usually win them these tough games. I feel like A.J.
- [56:40]
A
I don't. I don't know if the clock's on or not. So you're going to have to 20 seconds. Yeah. What I will say is you're doing a great job. You're doing a great job.
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B
Hey, you're doing a great job. I don't know why coach wouldn't get you in a headlock or talk really about his jiu jitsu here.
- [56:51]
A
History right there. I thought for sure he was going.
- [56:53]
B
To take you down. You guys might get on the ground and roll around a bit, right? Maybe next time, huh?
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A
Yeah, he we're gonna get out of here.
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B
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Football was played last night, obviously. The Buffalo Bills took on The Miami Dolphins. 131, 21. Pat is down there for a huge matchup. Miami Hurricanes, Florida Gators. What's going on Pat?
- [58:49]
A
I just talked to the President University, right? I think I'm allowed to throw this thing up right there he is Great story on him, by the way, if you were. So he was sitting in the game day meeting. When I walked in there, he was in the room already. Big room, you know, very. These schools give us, like, a room to set up. Some places only have, like, a smaller room, room to. For us all to kind of pack into. We're cool with whatever. We know it's difficult. Whenever we come in, try not to take up too much space. Big space here. This big, big, huge area. We go in through a back door, up through a kitchen. I mean, it was. This has been the greatest setup by far. Just no questions asked. Just what that. So walk into the production room. We go into the production room. This guy, great suit, right at the. Right at the door. Literally turn, suit, shake his hand, you know, and he goes, was. Why is this guy calling me? He's talking to Pete Thammel. Why is this guy calling me a suit? And I just, like, pointed at him, basically, like, what he was wearing. And I was like, good to see you. And I shook Pete's hand, and I go in and I sit down. About four minutes later, meeting starts. Pete Thammel introduced president of the university. Right, right. This is good news. So he gives a speech, obviously welcoming us, thanking us for coming. And then I. I apologize, obviously. So sorry that I just called you a suit. Then I learned about his history. This guy is set up to be a pretty. I think he used to run pretty wide money, like, international, and he was retired in the area, and then they were looking for a president. It's like, this could be a guy that maybe just, you know, lives in the area and he's. And since then, you've just seen, like, new building, new building, new building, football team going, you know, like, this guy's the real deal. It's like the perfect guy to be. I think almost other schools should look at, like, hey, in this modern era, it's business now, right? Not that, you know, not that it ever hasn't been, but more so now than it's ever been. I think this president of Miami is very good from. From just quickly being here just a couple hours and hearing people without being, like, told to complimenting this dude, like, hey, the president. This guy is a weapon, basically, like, the way they talk about them. So whenever you talk about everybody being aligned, it feels like at UN Miami right now, everybody is aligned in the Same Direction about 20, 25 and forward being the greatest it could be. So it's awesome to be down here, and I'm thankful that football season is happening and this game day show, you know, drops us in the middle of places that I've never been before. And I think tomorrow morning should be electrifying. A.J. hawk. I think it should be electrifying down here. Hot as. But I think it should be electrified. Yeah.
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B
Where so where do you guys going to be? I think we have, we have pictures of graphics. You're not obviously at the stadium. You're on campus. Like, are you set up right in the middle of their quad or whatever it's called?
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A
Yeah. So the stadium is like 45 minutes to an hour away. Okay. Obviously space. And I don't know where the hell party is going right now.
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D
I, I, this cameraman sucks my.
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A
He's overcomp. You were headed right now the stadium, though. Hey, he's. Don't you, don't you even think party has been crushing it here? Party has been crushing. He's trying to Spanish. He spoke Spanish to Coach Cristobal if my ears were mistaken. I mean there was a full moment there perfect for party and football. But the stadium is like 45 minutes to an hour away. So I, I wondered as well, like what the hell is going to happen on campus. Obviously says it's a night game as well. So on campus, everybody will be here. Freshman dorms there, there's places a lot this campus is alive. The most alive campus that I, we've been on in some time. And it's because it's like a resort. You know, it's a massive week. Like people want to get out and about. Like there's hangout. It's.
- [62:17]
B
Think how many people come visit your.
- [62:19]
C
Feel like, I hear party. Do I hear party music right now?
- [62:21]
E
Is that what you hear, Mr. Brighton?
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A
Pool. There's a pool right here in the middle of campus. I mean, it's like everything you.
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C
I did not have a camp pool of Ducane.
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A
Well, bingo. That's what I'm saying. Like everything you think neither. At West Virginia, we had a couple apartments at these pools and I'll tell you what, we played some pool volleyball some places and I had some moments, you know. It's just a game, bro. Geez, I don't know.
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D
Big sh.
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A
Go ahead and take that thing down. But everything you think of like the University of Miami, like, what do you. Oh, palm trees, like, you know, every, like the glitz, the glamour, the show, the nice. The pool, the resort. Like it's every, it's, it is like that is what they, they have done so good for them private institution too. That's said numerous times. So I think they're very proud of that. I think that is something that they are also take a lot of pride in. So it's great to be here. But yeah, you're hearing a little party in the background because that's what party in the city where the heat is on all night. Welcome to Miami. Still doing it.
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C
He's actually the guest picker this weekend.
- [63:18]
B
Will Smith.
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A
Pitbull was busy. Actually. Pitbull was busy. And then I think Ricky Ross potentially said no. And then Will Smith. Smith. Because of that one hit Miami. I'm not sure he was asked. Morgan Wallen also has a hit called Miami. I'm not sure he was asked. But tomorrow, having two times stay in the cup champion Matthew Tkachuk come by. I am jacked up about this. I didn't think he would be. When his name was said, that came out of nowhere for me. I did not expect Tachuk.
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E
Sure.
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A
You know, especially because of all the football. But like what he has obviously brought to South Florida and he calls this place home. And I assume that the energy that he is going to bring is going to be spectacular. And I can't wait to see him. And I'm happy the NHL is representing here on game day because I think it's the first time ever. AJ If I'm not mistaken.
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B
Is it really first time in NHL like a current. I don't doubt that NHL guy.
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A
Okay. It is. Yeah.
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D
Makes sense.
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B
Chuck is the perfect dude for that. We know he's going to fit in.
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A
I agree. Are we drinking out of that thing? What's going on? He's. Is he figure out how this.
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B
Is he bringing it?
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D
Does he have Lordo?
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B
He's going to have to.
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A
It's Mikey.
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B
You are definitely out of it.
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A
Yeah, well, they better be. I mean, it's. Lordo is Matthew Tachuk's tag team partner. They go where one goes, the other goes. That's kind of how hockey's going right now. We don't know if Stanley Cup's going to be here. We don't know. But if it's. If it's not, I'm be bummed out. But I'll be pumped to seek Chuck. But if it is here. What a glorious Saturday morning as we kick off another incredible football weekend. Big game tonight, Gumpy. Big game tonight. You're. You're jacked up about Iowa Rucker. Yeah. You're muted.
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G
Gonna be a banger.
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A
Are you muted? Did you hear him? No.
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E
We got him. We got him.
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A
Okay, so I can't hear Any of the microphones up here.
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D
Not sure if it was from your mic though, or from his mic.
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A
Could you hear coach Crystal Ball? Yeah, yeah.
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B
Oh yeah.
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A
Now I almost took the ears out to hear him up there, but then I was like, oh no. Can he not hear himself either? Does he think he's potentially actually like, does he think this is not get be Because I thought maybe he was going to beat me up for like a. He certainly was. Okay, what's. What's the games we need to be excited about this weekend though. Boys even go to the talks table at Boston. Connor at Ty Schmidt. Obviously there's one half of the hammer Cowboys AP tone Ty, what are the games we need to be looking forward to this weekend? What are the. It could be college, could be NFL. What are you getting zeked up couple a. Is it west virginia at Kansas? 13 and a half point spread there as West Virginia has no shot. Just trying to get a first down there obviously Michigan, Nebraska. That's a big one in the Big Ten. What game are you looking at, Ty? Illinois. Oh my God.
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E
In Bloomington I'd say Michigan, Nebraska typically, because I think that will be a good game. But for me it's. It's got to be Illinois, Indiana. I don't think in my lifetime this game has ever mattered ever. Like, I really don't think it has. I don't think anyone's.
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C
I think 1950 was the last time it was.
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E
There you go. Exactly. 1950 was the last time. This was a top 25 matchup. Usually these two teams, you know, for the better part of my life have been also rans in the Big Ten. It's just like, hey, chalk that up as a win. Illinois sucks. Indiana sucks. We're gonna beat the shit out of them. And like Stanford, Steve said on another college football convo, like, this is defense. It's basically a playoff eliminator. So anytime you can get one of those this early in the season, I'll be very excited to watch that game.
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A
You know, the college football season has lived up to the hype. You know what else does as I'm noticing and watching and I don't want to be like an ADD guy with a squirrel here. Mr. Brightside hits everywhere last night. Yeah, that was spectacular. I mean there was one guy who's drunk and fried Dolphins fan where there's two people singing behind and they're singing right side behind. I think everybody on earth, every age knows that the lyrics to that AJ I think, I think that is a natural sing along song.
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B
Yeah, what is it, 20. How many years ago is that? 20 years old, at least at Le probably.
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C
Yeah.
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B
That's wild. It's me. I mean, yeah. Many stadiums. I think it's a thing. Is that. Is that at the pool party? That behind you, that playing that? It's pretty loud.
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A
I think so. Yeah, I believe it is. They got good speakers here. Obviously, everybody, they got high dives down there. There is a high dive here, actually. I've been staring this thing down, I'm like, wait a minute. That doesn't look as high any gate as what I thought it was. Yeah, dude, they got some of them gators down there, so there's like a natural free water back here. And I do wonder if there's a gator roaming around, you know, because if there is a gator roaming around, you got to grab it by its tail, right? That's a Steve Irwin. Shout out to Steve Irwin's family. Foxy update on the Irwin family. Robert Irwin absolutely dominated on episode one of Dancing with the Stars on Tuesday. He was outstanding. He stole the show. Shout out Robert Irwin. Okay. He told me he was crocodile, mostly because of where he's from, that Rob's dad, Steve there, obviously, but you, you gotta grab the tail of that thing, you know, you gotta grab the tail and then you mount the back towards the upper shoulders. And then you grab the moth with your two hands like this. And then you, you need to gator. Roll the gator and get it upside down because then it will fall asleep. If you get it upside down, that thing will fall asleep. And I did that type of preparation as I was heading down here to Florida. I just want to let you guys know I did my research. So if you guys see a gator here during the show, please tell me and know that I have a plan. Prepare for everything.
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C
Surprised by nothing.
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A
Well said.
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B
Yeah, tape is gumpy's. Gotta get the tape out and tape his mouth shut, though, if you put.
- [68:40]
C
A towel over his eyes, because he's much more docile when there's a towel over.
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D
So, yeah, if you paint it too, it dies because it breathes through its body. So if you paint an alligator, it can't breathe.
- [68:50]
B
It'll be real easy.
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D
No, no, if you just have like a can of paint and you dump it on the alligator, it will slowly, slowly die.
- [68:57]
C
It's true.
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A
Well, then how do you know if it's a boy or a girl? Don't you got to kind of get up in there? I think Dumpy might do that, I guess.
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E
There you Go. Or you could always go the Jeff Landry route and just shoot that Gator square in between the eyes.
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A
No, don't.
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D
Real quick now. Just let that Gator. Just let that Gator go. Go back to bed now, Gator.
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A
We are awaiting Josh Allen to join us fresh off a massive AFC east win. Why is this conversation going the way it's going? Well, we are waiting. Mvp. We hope he does make an appearance soon so it can stop. We got two minutes. Okay. All right, that's two shot one.
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D
Hey, another one of those good games is Auburn Oklahoma.
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A
I'm.
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D
I like when Auburn's great at football. I didn't realize they were back in the top 25. This would be kind of sweet if War Eagle all of a sudden doesn't stink in the sec, just adds another Titan back to their repertoire. That'd be pretty cool.
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A
I mean you talk about adding a Titan. I mean if Oklahoma was to be added as a Titan to the sec, that'd be a big deal. You know, and this might be the first time long time that we've seen Brett Venables have an offense that's able to match how great his defense is. Now I know I was told this morning in a meeting obviously can't forget about the Dylan Gabriel year whenever he was with Venables at Oklahoma. And I agree obviously Dylan Gabriel was able to do his thing. But what the Oklahoma offense is with that guy right there, Mattier, who obviously he's had to transfer and he came alongside his offensive coordinator. And what he's been able to add to this Oklahoma Sooner football team is an explosive offense and an awesome offense, a reliable offense and one that isn't going to turn it over. Just a quick three and outs so that the Venables defense can hunt which they will do. I like this Oklahoma team a lot, AJ and I that's after going there and experiencing it too and seeing them and feeling what it's like out there. They think they're all the way back too out there in Boomer Sooner world.
- [70:47]
B
I tell you what with Mater, how athletic Mater is and how reckless he is sometimes with his body and he does not care about his physical well being which I respect as a quarterback. I am an absolute fan. And the Jordan armband wristband on the right arm, legit too with a beautiful spat in the high the pants up above and he looks good, great.
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A
He's an athlete. You know what he is? He's a white quarterback that runs and it looks athletic. Athletic. He reminds me a lot of the Guy that's joining us right now, the reigning mvp, a man who has been the leader of the Buffalo Bills for long enough time for us to know that the Buffalo Bills are going to win a Super bowl soon. Is it this year? We shall see. Ladies and gentlemen, the unstoppable, huge hand having friend of Phyllis and D. Ladies and gentlemen, Josh Allen. Yeah. What's up, dude?
- [71:39]
H
How we doing, guys?
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A
Heard you ran in the CD last night. Is that accurate?
- [71:45]
H
Not falling for it.
- [71:46]
A
Not falling. Could you imagine though, if we get you on espn as soon as you pop your face on with that broken nose, I get you a CD's nuts immediately. That would have been spectacular. I like that you are a weapon in the locker room. I think you look good. I want to talk about last night with the visor. Was there any change? Did you feel different? I know you wore in college. And how long is this going to last, you think with this massive nose and snoz that you have going on right now?
- [72:09]
H
Hopefully, hopefully not too long, but I think kind of going back to last year, I put the glove on after week one when I had a little hand injury and you know, a little nose injury. Put the visor on. So we might have to keep rocking it. We'll. We'll see how it goes.
- [72:22]
A
I think it looked cool. Let's put a little tin on there. You know, why not? Let's go ahead and get the sleeve on. You know, let's. Let's start swagging out here. Let's. Little bit. Yeah, maybe the mirror. Yeah, maybe the. Yeah, I know he has the red one.
- [72:35]
C
I think he has the red visor too.
- [72:37]
A
Oh, something about.
- [72:38]
H
Okay, let's not do training camp.
- [72:41]
A
The red one, right? Yeah, let's do that. Let's do that again. We need the MVP wearing a red visor out there, especially for the last year in that particular stadium. And obviously Bill's mafia shows up every single night and last night was no difference. Let's talk about your offense. Kirk Herbstream said last night during the game and I've mentioned it a couple times because this is what the expectation is of your offense now. He said if the Miami Dolphins defense can get a stop, I think they should view that as a success. And I think he would have said that about a lot of defenses right now. What is it about your offense that has you guys clicking so much and what are you excited about with this year's particular offense?
- [73:16]
H
Yeah, I think we just got a lot of guys that can do a lot of different things. Obviously we're running the ball really well. James Cook is, looks like he shot out of Cannon every time he touches the football. Our O line is doing such a good job of communicating and working together in the passing game. We got guys that are in the right spots. You know, teams are typically playing some soft zones against us, which there's just some, some underneath stuff that we're just going to keep taking until they take it away. So, you know, part of the, the reason that I think we're, we're so, you know, we're having such, such success is again, guys know what they're doing. They're in the right spot spots and then when there's plays to be made, they're, they're being made.
- [73:53]
A
Yeah. And you're an alien. Go ahead A.J. that's probably why as well. Go ahead, A.J.
- [73:56]
B
I'M thinking as a, as a D coordinator, if they're thinking of facing you guys like the week leading up to it, you can't really point. One guy like you distribute the ball so well. You guys can run the ball so well, throw the ball, anything. Is that a huge advantage for you thinking like, hey, there's no telling where I'm going to go with this ball. I'm going to take what you guys give me what is open. As opposed to some teams, sometimes they want to jam and make sure a guy gets 10, 15 targets.
- [74:18]
H
Yeah, we don't have to worry about that. I think again, the types of, the types of men that we have in our locker room, especially in the receiver and tight end position, nobody's begging for the ball. They understand that they're going to have opportunities throughout the game and it's not going to be, you know, like you said, 10 to 15, but they're going to get five or six opportunities to go make something happen and to be able to start into the field to the boundary, to the slot. Like our concepts, they're just so. They're varied. A lot of things look alike in our offense. Joe Brady and our offensive staff do a great job of presenting different concepts from the same look. And it makes, it makes it tough on defenses, but it makes it fun playing the quarterback position.
- [74:58]
A
It's fun watching your offense operate because it's like a well oiled machine. And also I said you're an alien. It's like you're one of one brother. You're what everybody is hoping to get whenever they draft a quarterback. Whenever we go back to your draft, obviously your first year was what it was, second year was what it was. Third year was what it was from that point to becoming an MVP to where you're at now. Like obviously you had to have the vision of it and is that the main motivator is you knew what you could be or what was kind of the off season development process for you year after year. Because you've, you've gotten better this year too. Every offseason you get better since seemingly. Is that because you have a vision of what you can be or, or how do you kind of get to that point?
- [75:37]
H
100. I think it goes back to, you know, being, being a high school kid that wasn't getting any offers, knowing that I could play at the Division 1 level and then getting to the Division 1 level, thinking that I could, I could play in the NFL. You know, just having that internal belief and working hard and make no mistake, it's, it's taken an army to get me here. You know, there's a lot of people in my life that I can thank and played their part in what's going on. But ultimately I'm just trying to go out there. I work really hard with the, with the guys on the football field throughout the weeks and throughout the off seasons and I'm just going out there. I just want to have fun. I just want to play some football. You see the little flip there to the Jack, Jack, his first touchdown. But guys work hard. We have a lot of fun in Buffalo. It's a pretty tight unit and yeah, we just love, we love playing ball.
- [76:22]
A
Jack, Jack needed that. He almost slipped and fell on this play and he also got called for a penalty that wasn't on him. I mean, he had a rough go there for a little bit and then you give him a sick touchdown. That's a good moment for all the Buffalo Bills fans. Ty has a question for you about Bill's Mafia.
- [76:36]
E
Yeah, Josh, when you look at everything and they've mentioned this, not just on the game last night, but you know, in the media the last several weeks about how, you know, kind of taking everything in with this being the last season at you guys current stadium before you move on, when you, you, you know, kind of put all of that together, does it kind of have the makings and does it feel like something special is about to happen? Because people are already starting to, you know, form that storyline of like, can you imagine how crazy Buffalo would go if they would, you know, win a Super bowl in the last season in this stadium before they kind of set off on this new era? Can you feel that?
- [77:11]
H
100. You know, I. I have vivid dreams of it. I think it's a obviously story book ending for the stadium, but at the end of the day, you know, like, I. It's my belief that it's already written. I'm just trying to see what God's got played out and laid out for us on this team. And I'm just going out there and just trying to, like I said, play football and have fun and do what I think I was put on this earth to do.
- [77:34]
A
Were you put on this earth to make sure that those Bison at that new stadium are. You know What I mean?
- [77:39]
B
60Ft.
- [77:39]
H
Make them bigger. Got to make them bigger.
- [77:41]
A
Boom.
- [77:42]
E
And it is.
- [77:43]
A
I like where your head's at, bro.
- [77:45]
B
You can make.
- [77:45]
A
I want to let you know, I. I like where you can definitely make that. I. I think you could probably make anything happen. New stadium looks awesome. They gave, like, the inside view of it last night on Amazon Prime. How much of that are you guys being talked about or asked about any at all or. Nothing?
- [78:00]
H
Not, not much.
- [78:01]
A
Not much, but not even like, hey, do you want coconut husk instead of tire shreds on the, on the turf? Are they asking those questions to Josh Allen or. No?
- [78:11]
H
We're grass, brother.
- [78:12]
A
Wow.
- [78:15]
G
Boom.
- [78:15]
E
Heated.
- [78:16]
C
Beautiful.
- [78:16]
E
Wow.
- [78:17]
A
In Buffalo. Hey, that's big. So were you not asked about that? You were asked about that or.
- [78:21]
H
No, we were told about it, but it was. Yeah, we, we. We like grass. I've got some turf burns on my legs that make me really like grass.
- [78:33]
A
We got some joints.
- [78:34]
H
I know Pat likes grass, too.
- [78:36]
A
Yeah, we all do. We all love this pocket, Josh. Okay. You're talking about vitamins, I think. Okay, that is what you're talking about. We do love the grass down here in Florida. I only got the medicinal grass. It does, but we'll find a card somewhere, Josh. We'll find a card somewhere. Connor has a question for you, Josh.
- [78:52]
D
Yeah, Josh. Jack. Jack. Incredible Incredibles reference. It feels like the vibes on offense are at an all time high. Keon Coleman, it feels like, has also taken a massive step last year. I don't know if it was, you know, a lot coming in as a rookie and, you know, maybe it took him a little to learn, but it feels like he's off to an unbelievable start this year. You and him clearly have a really, really good connection. How was that work with him this offseason? Was that something you two were together for a lot? Was it more so training camp and then you mentioned it being a really good off season for you was that because you worked out with Drake Mann, he explained to you how to be, you know, one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. Was that kind of how you know how to be a back to back mvp? Was that, is that the whole thing? And as a New England Patriots fan, let me just say thank you so much for helping him play quarterback, brother. I can already see it helping.
- [79:40]
H
I can already see I haven't done anything for Drake. We got to spend a little bit of time together. He is a fantastic kid though, I tell you that. He plays the game the right way. He's got a really good head on his shoulders. I'm a huge fan of his. I think we share the same agency. So we've been around each other a couple times, but again, just down to earth kid. But going back to the Keon question. Yeah, just the work that we've put in in training camp, it obviously paid dividends in week one, week two and three. A little bit different game plan style, but still being there and opportunities to make some plays for us. And he's been doing a good job with that.
- [80:18]
A
You talked about training camp. Do you hate or love Hard Knocks? I thought you came across very well. Obviously I've never been around you for a season or any of your training camp cam stuff, so I assume it's just status quo for you. But man, I love the way you lead. Did you enjoy Hard Knocks in there or did you guys hate it like some people do?
- [80:34]
H
You know what, they did such a good job of communicating with us, understanding, you know, how we felt about it. I, I, I'd be the first one to say that I wasn't very excited for it, but the crew, NFL Films, did such a good job. We knew exactly where they were at all times. We know who was mic'd up when we were mic'd up. You know, we had the opportunity to really feel like we were ourselves and trust that they were going to put the best versions of ourselves out there. So it was much better than I anticipated and glad that, you know, people finally got to see what a winning organization looks like. Typically it's been, you know, teams that are coming off a bad season or new coach or a new quarterback or. It was fun.
- [81:18]
A
Spotlighted your fans too. It was cool. All of it was cool. I really enjoyed your guys's Hard Knocks. Now, I'm not saying I don't enjoy other Hard Knocks, but I think Hard Knocks have potentially lost its luster a little bit. Okay. Because social media teams and digital teams, but then getting a Chance to learn about you and how the Buffalo Bills operate, especially with how much respect we have for the building. It was cool. I think. I'm very happy you guys did that. AJ Actually has picked you guys every single game because he watched 10 minutes of the first episode. Ain't that right, AJ? Yeah.
- [81:46]
B
I don't know exactly which episode it was. Connor McGovern's wife. He was talking with his wife, and she said, oh, yeah, we broke camp. He finally broke camp after all this time. And, you know, 10 minutes after he was home, he called all of his buddies or texted all of his old lineman buddies and asked him if they want to go bowling or wanted to hang out, like. And she's like, we just. We just got you home. You've been gone for a month, or whatever. And I felt like watching that. I'm like, these dudes are a team. These guys love each other. These guys hang out. And then I see you being a jackass all over the practice field in between and that team. What makes me really solidify that this dude is the leader and they love him. And you have, you know, all your different names for everybody. That's something that has that grown as you've been there with the Buffalo Bills. Did you know it was a special place when you first got there? And how have you. Like, how have you grown into that role?
- [82:27]
H
No, it's been a special place since I've got there, and I take a lot of pride, you know, when. When. When players go to other teams and they come back and they're like, you know what? It's just not like this everywhere else. And I. I can't speak to how other places are. I'm sure there's places that are similar to us, but I'm sure there's places that aren't even close to what we got going on in our building. The. The type of vibes and. And, you know, friendships and the relationships that we're able to build here in Buffalo because, you know, like you alluded to with Connor, we can send out a text and be like, hey, come hang out, and guys are at your house in five to ten minutes. You know, everyone seems like we live very close to each other. It's. It's very much like a college atmosphere, and it's something that I completely cherish. And, you know, there's. There's a proponent of. It is, like, there's not many distractions. You know, we can focus on football, but at the end of the day, it's the relationships and, you know, the friendships that you form. Because I do genuinely believe that if you trust somebody off the field, you're going to trust them more on the field.
- [83:25]
A
Yes, absolutely. Playing for each other as opposed to just alongside each other. I think that's a big deal. I've heard you've hosted a lot of different events. Right. When there are free agency stuff you had at your house and then we heard about. And then gatherings, that big Halloween party, The circus. Yeah.
- [83:40]
G
Oh, yeah.
- [83:40]
A
I like when the quarterback's doing that and like, legit. That's an obligation, I assume you feel, as the leader of the team. I don't.
- [83:47]
H
I mean, obligation, no, but it's something that I love doing. You know, I. I love football because, again, I get to go out there and do what I. What I love doing. But there's just nothing better than the job that I have, you know, to go and hang out with the boys. I know it's. It's hard work when we're in the building and there's meetings upon meetings, walkthroughs and practice, but I mean, some of the relationships and the, the conversations that you're able to have inside of a NFL locker room and a quarterback room, it's. It's relationships and friendships that I'll cherish forever. And it's. It's just the best job in the world, and I just love, love getting to do it.
- [84:19]
A
Do you guys have Jamal up there? Okay. Tone has the last question for you. Tony has the last question for you. Josh.
- [84:28]
E
Josh.
- [84:29]
C
I am a Steelers fan, so I think it's easy for me. But your career art kind of reminds me so much of Big Ben, Like a huge, athletic guy coming out of a small school who started as someone who was just a lot of backyard ball and then turned into an elite thrower of the football. Was there anyone that, like when you were coming up, that you watched to model your game after or in when you do make a backyard play versus one where you hit, like your fifth step or seventh step, and it's just a perfect throw. Which one do you like better?
- [84:59]
H
That's a good question.
- [85:02]
A
I like that question. That's the journalism, Tony.
- [85:07]
H
You know, playing on, playing on. Timing is great. When you're able to take that seventh step and trust your guy and put the ball out before he breaks. There's something smart, special about that. But there's also something special about extending a play, putting your. Your finger up.
- [85:19]
C
Yeah, there is.
- [85:20]
H
Having them do what you're doing. It feels like you're playing a video game. You know, so one of the guys that I grew up obviously watching and loving and trying to emulate was Aaron. You know, I know he's a, he's a big, big, big pal of the show. But I've gotten to know Aaron over the last few years and, and again someone that I completely looked up to on the football field. And I'm still like just trying to find. He still throws the, the heck out of the ball and just trying to find more ways to, to tighten up my mechanics. And he's. He's such a good person to watch for me.
- [85:51]
A
Yeah. For so long. He's 41, still moving out there. Still spinning it arm. You guys feel. And AJ says this about Aaron. Obviously he hangs out with him, is closer than we all are. We've only got to meet him over the last few years. AJ's known for a long time AJ. We saw him at out of Tahoe. He was at the American Century. We're staying at Aaron's place. He rented an awesome place. I'm sure you've seen it out there on the lake. And we're out in the water and he's up on the top deck and somebody calls for a beer down in there. And Aaron just. I think he just woke up. Like literally just woke up. Goes into the fridge. Oh. Grabs a beer 12 ounce wide. Steps out onto this deck and he just hawks this thing into like no warm up Nothing. He's like 38 maybe at the time. 39 years old. Just no warm up. And it just bang. And this thing maybe 60 yards. This beer can just through hits tube. That guy's sitting dude like. And you know, so I'm a little boozed up at this time. Maybe a little high as well. Going back to grass out there. Especially California grass. You guys got good stuff out there. So I do the. I'm like what is this like a whole question? And AJ goes he'll be able to throw anything for the rest of his life. Like I feel like you are a similar person. People talk about your arm talent. Has it always been that you just had an incredible arm like baseball growing up. Has it always kind of been that way? And do you elite throwers of think that you'll be able to do that forever for whatever reason?
- [87:08]
H
I think so. I'm, I, I personally believe the way I, I learned to throw back in the, you know at the ranch, going in the backyard and we had a shop and it was just all gravel. We had a big, a big like trash dump. And I just pick up Rocks, and I just chuck them and try to throw them in there. So that's how I. I think learned how to, like, throw it. And mechanically just figuring it out by myself. So that's. Yeah, I think we'll be able to do it forever.
- [87:35]
A
Oh, we got one of these. We got something.
- [87:37]
B
Can you skip them on a pond?
- [87:38]
A
Yeah. What?
- [87:38]
B
Made a pretty good skipper.
- [87:39]
H
Yeah, I can skip a good rock now.
- [87:41]
B
Okay.
- [87:42]
A
Have you seen the World Skipping Championships has a little controversy. Have you seen this?
- [87:46]
B
What'd they do?
- [87:47]
A
I have. Not the. The rock skipping contest, the national one. This is a real thing.
- [87:52]
D
Yeah.
- [87:52]
A
Some of these guys are getting, like, 60, 70. Unbelievable. Okay. They're doing deep submarine tosses. Obviously, any of us that have ever skipped a rock understand that's the right way to do it. They're manipulating these rocks, Josh. These guys are cheating. These guys are cheating.
- [88:05]
D
They're greasing rocks.
- [88:07]
A
They're greasing these rocks. They're shining them, dying. Can't do that, Josh.
- [88:11]
H
Not a good look. Not a good look for the. Yeah, the rock skipping community.
- [88:17]
B
It's a big one.
- [88:18]
A
Flag floor football. You gonna do it? Olympics.
- [88:22]
H
If I get asked, I. I absolutely want to compete for my country.
- [88:25]
A
Yeah.
- [88:26]
E
Yes.
- [88:26]
D
Yes. If you don't get.
- [88:27]
A
You would be awesome, right? Flag football. That would be. You'd be awesome in flag football.
- [88:31]
H
I think I would hope so. But again, these guys are playing it year round and.
- [88:36]
A
Don't stop it.
- [88:37]
C
Don't do that.
- [88:38]
A
Don't do that. We're not doing that. Okay. Before we let you go, and we appreciate you joining us on this glorious is Feel Good Friday, especially for you guys. Three and. Oh, congratulations. My wife texted me in the middle of this. She very rarely does this. I know you don't care. She says, okay, I do care. I would like to let you know before I read the rest of this message. I do care. Okay. Josh Allen's lady is in the show. Emily Dickinson. I love that show. You should ask him if he runs lines with her. Do you do any of that? Do you. Do you assist?
- [89:09]
H
I wouldn't say we run lines. I mean, she reads all of her scripts by herself and she'll give me some updates on them, but, you know, we will at some. At some points kind of just go off and do some improv stuff. So, yes, it's pretty fun. My wife, she's. She's an absolute stud. She. She's the best. What can I say?
- [89:27]
A
Mega talent, both of you. When two greats are together, it's good for society. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Until D, we said hello. Okay.
- [89:36]
H
All right. Tell Wilma I said hello.
- [89:39]
A
All right. Sweet. Unbelievable. Him on busing with Will and Taylor.
- [89:47]
D
He's incredible.
- [89:48]
A
Entire time. I love A.J. i love that he is that guy. And there's. When we were in the locker room, I don't know what it is modern day. I don't know how much that cares. Normally, one or two of those guys who really love that, like, and are very good at that. I've had. I've seen people who are maybe in the hall of Fame set up phone calls to the trainer's room. Emergency. Emergency phone calls set off almost like alarms. So people, just for a Deez Notch joke, Just for a Deez Notch joke. That's it. Like, call, alarm go off. Who is it? Somebody needs to talk to D. Okay, where's Dee? And then immediately, boom. Like, 14 people. It is a magical moment in the locker room that just goes to his style of leadership, though. AJ as we lead into a conversation with one of the greatest leaders of all time. I'll give you guys, like, a minute and a half or so until we see you back here in Miami.
- [90:42]
B
Yeah, absolutely. As coach Saban will be joining us from down there. But, yeah, I. I don't know if any of you guys saw the hard knock situation. I know I've been a broken record talking about the Buffalo.
- [90:51]
A
You have?
- [90:51]
B
I have. I tell you what, I. They bamboozled me with, like, overwhelming positivity on how they interact. It just reminded me of, like, the best teams I have been on how they want to hang out, how they are. Like, it's something where they'll look back on when you get older. You're my age. I'm 41. You're like, man, that's a special thing. Like, I hope they're enjoying it.
- [91:07]
E
Well, they always say that, but, like, you would know because you played in Green Bay, how much of that. Like, hey, there's not. There's nothing else to do. Like, football, like, huge. How often were you hanging out with guys on the defense or the offense because you didn't have anything else?
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B
All the time. That was. That's the best thing he said. You know, five minutes. How you send a text out. Five, ten minutes, you guys will be at your house hanging out. Like, yeah, five, ten minutes away when you could, whatever it may be. If you wanted to golf in the off season with guys, you might. We might have. We might have five or six foursomes in a row for a plan. Like On a Tuesday afternoon after workouts in May or something.
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D
Yeah, and that's what's cool about those cities, though. Like, the cities and towns themselves are built around football. Like Lambeau, Buffalo, those entire, you know, areas. The only thing that matters is the football. And that is kind of why playing in a small place like that would be so cool.
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B
It's great. It's like a college. Like a college setting. Speaking of college, I think.
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A
Pat.
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B
What's going on, buddy?
- [91:59]
A
Who you.
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B
Who you down there with now?
- [92:01]
A
The greatest college football coach of all time, ladies and gentlemen.
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D
Yeah.
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G
Glad to be here.
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A
How you doing, man? It's great to see. You look fantastic. Is this linen here for the human? I know you're retired and you will frequent Florida, but when you come down here, is the body ready? Is the suit ready? Are you excited for tomorrow?
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G
Yeah. This is Miami colors, man.
- [92:20]
A
It is.
- [92:21]
G
This is it, baby. That's what you wear in this kind of climate.
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A
Are you going to try some of the local medicine here that I've. No, I'm not allowed. No. Yes, you are. Yes, you are. Dr. Me says always. Good. Let's talk about coming down here to Miami. Obviously. Obviously, we all from outside looking in. Remember when Miami was the powerhouse? The powerhouse. We just talked to Coach Cristobal, who obviously, you know, incredibly well. He said, we're trying to look forward. We're trying to, you know, make this also a time, because he was a part of the history. What do you see from this Miami team, and are they legit? You know, last year, a lot of football gods blessing them with a lot of great things. We thought maybe they were a team of destiny. Fall off at the end. Cam Ward, number one overall pick this year, they get Carson Beck, who obviously, you know. Well, do you think they are potentially implementing a culture that will be talked about for a long time around here?
- [93:09]
G
Well, I think they are, because I think they're a good team, top to bottom. You know, last year they had a great offensive team. They couldn't stop anybody on defense, so, you know, they had to try to outscore everybody. It didn't always work out that way. You know, one thing that I think, if you really want to make it to the playoffs and you really want to make a run, you got to be able to play defense. You got to be able to play defense. They got a great offense, and Carson Beck's doing a great job. I like the receivers. I think their offensive line is outstanding. Their two tackles are very physical. Good players, and it plays right into what Carson Beck does best, which is pocket pass, and when you can't affect him in the pocket, he's really effective. But the fact that they can play so much better on defense this year, I think is the thing that gives them the best chance, because defense travels. I mean, even when you play on the road and you play in tough environments shouldn't affect the defensive players nearly as much as it does the offensive players. So if you have a good defensive team, I think you have a better chance in the long run to be successful.
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A
It was an awesome production meeting this morning. We're talking about a lot of different teams, and one particular person was just saying, how's their defense? How's their defense? How's their defense? That person was this person. And I think you might hear a little bit of that tomorrow when he's breaking it down. But, AJ Whenever push comes to shove, we talk about it. When the NFL, like, it doesn't show up till it shows up. And when it shows up, normally is in the biggest moment. And it's like, if you can't stop somebody in the biggest games, right now, feels good, but inevitably, you're probably pretty fearful for the future. What are your thoughts, AJ and what's your question for code?
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B
Yeah, it's a demoralizing situation when you can't get off the field on third down, especially.
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A
Especially.
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B
Or a team's running the ball just down your throat, and you're like, wait, we don't. I don't have any answers. And everyone starts jumping out of their gap and trying to do things that are outside of your responsibilities. I think that's a tough thing defensively. And speaking of that, Coach, like, as. As a defense and with your scheme and everything you've done over the years, how do you know, I guess, how to craft your scheme to your players to where, hey, it's not too complex, but it is. We have enough answers to what offenses are giving us. But I want these guys. You got great athletes. You're a great recruiter. I want these guys to run fast and not have to think too much. Like, how do you craft your game plan?
- [95:19]
G
Well, you know, one thing that I thought was really important because you say, you know, sometimes you can't stop the run, sometimes you can't get off the field on third down. You know, I was never one of these guys that tried to make it simple. You know, I was a whole part, whole guy. You know, to use, you know, Pat's terminology, I would take a bucket of shit, throw it on the wall, see what Stuck, pick up the shit, throw it up there until it all stuck.
- [95:42]
A
So it might take, it might take.
- [95:44]
G
Longer for some guys than others, but that's the way I approach it because I wanted to be able. We wanted to be able to make adjustments in the game and I want players to play fast and I want them to be confident in the game. And I was always going to pare it down for the game so they could do that. But if we had to make a adjustments in the game and play better situation football, there were things that we could do. I mean, you've been in a situation where teams getting in a bunch pass and whatever you plan, you know, to play in the game plan, you can't stop that pattern in the way, the way you're geared up to stop it in practice. So you have to be able to change. And if the players can't adapt, you really can't change without going out there and making mistakes. So I was never a real simple guy. I wanted the players to play fast. But I think players develop a capacity to learn and the more you challenge them, the more they'll learn and the better they can adapt when they get in tough situations. That's my opinion.
- [96:41]
A
You're a natural teacher too, so I think you enjoy that. Not that all coaches aren't, but it feels like it is your actual calling and passion and football happens to be the way you go about teaching and influencing. Whenever you expect a lot of people, I think they start to expect a lot of themselves, themselves too, and that kind of something. And they're talking about quarterbacks maybe not being able to understand what defenses are right now in the NFL coming out of college. Do you think some people have opted for a simpler way so that they can have like maybe quick success as opposed to maybe trying to get the best football that they possibly can in this modern era?
- [97:09]
G
Yeah, I think the One thing that RPOs did was to take away from quarterbacks being needing to be developed as drop back passers, which in the NFL you eventually have to do at some point. At some point you can throw play action passes and all that stuff because RPO's make a simple read. You're reading one thing and then they got into these widespread formations, whatever you call that air raid offense or whatever. Now the quarterback only reads one side of the field. So the quarterback never really develops in terms of what you have to know to, to play in the NFL. How do you have to redirect protection so you protect yourself? You know, how do you read coverages so you're in the right place. You know, a lot. A lot of times the offensive coordinator is going to give you a middle of the field read on this side and a half field coverage read on this side. And you got to be able to figure it out based on reading. The safeties, they never learn how to do that in college anymore, which I think really doesn't help us develop quarterbacks for the NFL like we used to.
- [98:10]
A
But you're able to win some games. You got the best athlete on the field, with the ball, every single play. You can make some blaze, you can win some games. But in the NFL, is it going to work out immediately? Probably not. We got a lot of second chance quarterbacks coming. Mac Jones right now, obviously, you know, he is. He's getting an opportunity, I think. Obviously gets humbled a little bit in New England. Had a defense coordinator as an offense coordinator there for a bit. Connor, how do we feel about that now that we're looking back on it? We think it was a good move, bad move.
- [98:34]
D
I think it'd be the equivalent to NASA hiring me to run the space program.
- [98:39]
A
Okay, but I think you would do a good job. I think you would work hard to try to figure it out. But yes, I think that was certainly a setback and obviously was talked about at the time. Maybe not enough. Then he bounces around a little bit down to Jacksonville, has a couple moments, but not great. Ends up at San Francisco. It's like he's been there, done that with everything. So he can probably pull from some instances. And do you think that's why he had immediate success down there in New Orleans?
- [98:59]
G
Yeah, I think so. I think Max, the kind of guy, though, that very smart, wants to get it right. So when you have a guy like that, they want to be around a coach that can help them understand what's expected of them on every play, you know, in the game and every situation in the game. So he definitely has that now, you know, and I think he's playing well. I always thought he could play well. He played well for us because, you know, he had that with us that last year. And I think the guy can have a good career. I think it's unfair to put a guy in this. Look, I couldn't be an offensive coordinator. You know, everybody thinks I was a pretty good coach. I was a defensive guy and a special teams guy and if I had to go be an offensive coordinator, it would have been hell to pay for the poor players trying to play on offense.
- [99:48]
A
What? Some are pretty good coach. Yeah, I think, I think they do think you're a pretty good coach. And I'm going to let you know, I think you could have been. Been an offense coordinator. I think you could have figured it out in that brain that's inside of that great hair, by the way. You need to be proud of that hair. Oh, yeah. Do you see this hair?
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D
Perfect too.
- [100:05]
A
Yeah. First and every week on game day, there's some that's going on to his head and it's like his hair is beautiful. I mean it is this the suits he's coming off his best off season. Look at those shoes. These shoes. These shoes got cold. Hans on the guy can go run a sprint right now if he has to. I mean it's unbelievable back down here, but.
- [100:25]
G
But I have to sit by you. So there's a, there's a stand.
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A
Oh, yeah.
- [100:29]
G
I have to live up to the stand.
- [100:30]
A
Okay. Ap yeah, he's. He can't even keep a straight face. Go ahead, Tone, with your question for coach.
- [100:34]
C
Yeah, Coach, listening to you. Last year and this year, I, I feel like you talk a lot about explosive play rate and Texas right now I believe is 131st or 132nd in explosive play rate. They're last in the SEC in third down conversions, last in the SEC in red zone and 14th in scoring in the SEC. And a lot of it, you know, a lot of people are talking about Arch and his struggles. If you're Sark, how do you handle that? Like, can you like maybe bench him for a series or two and like hope that kick starts something or how do you deal with a quarterback who's struggling and then trying to not ruin their confidence?
- [101:10]
G
Yeah, I think. Couple things, you know, I think, I don't think Texas has been able to run the ball very consistently, you know, which is going to put you in a lot of bad down distance situations. So that's going to put more pressure on the quarterback because it's an advantage for the defense. But I think when, when we had a player that was struggling, you know, or when we lost, you know, I always wanted to be the most technical that I could be so the players could actually see if I just did this correctly, we could have success, you know, rather than putting a lot of pressure on them to get it right. I really wanted to be technical in terms of corrections, whether it's footwork, whether it's arm mechanics, whether it's making the right reads. I just wanted to be really, really technical and show players. I wanted players to be able to See, if they did it right, we could have some success and everybody needs to do it right for us all to have success. So that's what I would be really trying to emphasize. I don't think necessarily you only bench a guy when you feel like he's not committed to doing things the way you want him to do it, or what he's doing is really having a tremendous adverse on the team from an attitude standpoint or something like that. If he's really trying to do it. And when you bench somebody, you better make sure the guy you put in for him is going to be better than he was or you just create more problems for yourself.
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A
Certainly with both parties. And also the locker room, potentially there is a story, and I don't know if Arch is at this, you know, point yet, but, you know, a benching is potentially a perspective shaper too. And I'm not saying Arch should be bench. Okay? I'm never. I'm not saying I'm not going to be the person that's doing that, but it has not started out the way. And let's talk about DJ Lagway. I mean, there's been a lot of quarterbacks, I think, coming into this year that we thought were going to be like this. I think Desmond mentioned it this morning. Desmond was like, this was supposed to be one of the best draft classes of quarterbacks that there's ever been. I don't think that conversation is still happening. And we're what, four weeks into the season at this point?
- [103:11]
G
Yeah, there's a lot of guys that are struggling. There's no doubt about that. I agree with that 100%. And I think sometimes creating these explosives expectations, and nobody has created greater expectations for anybody than what we've all created for Arch Manning a lot because of his name, not necessarily what he's been able to accomplish at this point in his career. And I think that creates a lot of anxiety with players and I think that anxiety really hurts their development.
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A
We forget they're 19.
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G
Yeah, 19 years old and they need to focus on development. You know, it's like we all know need object constancy. You know, we need consistent way to try to develop and improve. I mean, your kids, it doesn't matter who it is. And I think, you know, we're not giving these guys that opportunity now before the expectations get greater than what they've.
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A
Developed to object constancy.
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G
And you need a little of that too.
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A
Hold on, I got a lot of object constancy that means like a goal, something to Work for, strive for? Is that what you're saying?
- [104:11]
G
Yeah, you got, you got something here you got to get committed to and you got to do the things you need to do process wise to see it through and stay committed to it and all that. We get so outcome oriented with some of these things and then people are disappointed in the outcome and then the next thing they want to transfer, they're doing something else. So they never learn how to stay committed to something, overcome adversity, have perseverance and resiliency. You know, it's just something that the system is not really geared as much toward now as it used to be.
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A
Object constancy. Let's go to the toxic table. We've been talking about object constancy since I, I couldn't even remember, Ty. Go ahead, pal.
- [104:49]
E
Yeah, I actually think that was maybe the first thing you brought up to me when I started working here, Pat. So it's crazy that it's come full circle like that.
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A
But speaking that object constancy, boys, we're trying to go ahead and do this thing the right way. That's what we're trying to do. Ty.
- [105:01]
E
Coach speaking, Speaking of that whole conversation, I think it was yesterday, Brett Bielema said that he thinks the NCAA is going to start granting players five years worth of eligibility. Do you think like in the grand scheme of things for coaches and for players, does that ultimately matter? Do you think that will help maybe mitigate the volume of people we have in the transfer portal? So, you know, when it comes to development and stuff like that, if these guys do have an extra year of eligibility, if they're just sitting behind someone, maybe they won't just decide, hey, I need to go somewhere else and play. And then they'll, they'll consider maybe staying where they, where they are because they're not burning a year of eligibility anymore.
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G
Yeah, well, you know, I don't know that shorten a guy's career. I think the reason people are trying to extend their careers in college is if you were a college player and you didn't think you're going to make it in the NFL and you had the opportunity to make money in college, you'd want to play for as long as you could no longer different than an NFL player, want to play for as long as he can. But I really don't think that the five year thing is going to keep people from transferring. I think, you know, maybe we should come up with some parameters where a player has a responsibility and obligation to whether it's a contract or something. If you're going to pay players, we all get paid. We all have a responsibility to do certain things to get paid. But right now in college football, that's not really the case. You can pick up your bags and walk whenever you want, and you don't have any obligation. So there's no cause and effect forever leaving the job that you have. And I think that's, that's a lesson we all need to learn, you know, from a responsibility and accountability standpoint. I made a commitment here. I've got to stay here for two years. I can only transfer once as an undergraduate, like I only transfer once as a graduate, whatever the rules might be. But there's some kind of responsibility that goes. And accountability that goes with you're getting paid. You have an obligation to do certain things to get paid.
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A
Yeah, we're about to get to cba. I assume a collective bargaining agreement between players and the college. It's. It's all in front of us. We just have no idea when it's going to happen. A lot of things get figured out. One thing that did get figured out is no longer two transfer portal windows. There's only one. It's in the middle of the playoffs still, which is going to be a huge conversation whenever we get there. Obviously that's right around the corner, but there's only what 20 teams have to worry about that seemingly year in, year out for whenever you're talking about the playoffs, everybody else voting on it. What are your thoughts on the one transfer portal and when it is now?
- [107:28]
G
I think one transfer portal is probably a good thing. I think when you have your team in the spring, you go through spring practice, you go through the off season program, then all of a sudden guys leave. It's not probably great for them in terms of the next place they go. And it's not great for you trying to manage a roster. So that's probably a good thing. But I think that we're forcing people in college to move more to the NFL model in terms of organization. Like, you have a personnel department, gm. Yeah, like we had a gm, we had a personnel department. And you know, I separate. Separated it from the portal to college recruiting. I had different guys over here evaluating guys in the portal, different guys over here evaluating guys, you know, that were in high school and then we had. Now you can send different people out to recruit them. It doesn't really have to just be the assistance. So you're actually expanding staff operations and operations to be able to manage this kind of circumstance. So for Example, if you're in the playoffs, you want to have other people that are not focused on the playoffs, they're focused on recruiting, they're focused on guys in the portal so that you're recruiting those guys at the same time you're continuing to play.
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A
It's going to be a lot of drama.
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G
Always, always.
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A
There's going to be what, five, five years of eligibility. That means there's going to be somebody that's going to Somehow play for 10 teams. Doing the math, right? Yeah, that's going to end up happening.
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G
That's crazy.
- [108:54]
A
Well, what are you talking about? 10 teams, 10 opportunities, five years.
- [108:58]
G
You know, I hate to bring this up because this is all about football, but you know, every time you transfer, you got 20% less chance to graduate. So nobody ever talks about education anymore. And I do think that's important. I mean, what if you're a guy and you're making $700,000 a year playing college football and you don't graduate and you don't play in the NFL? What kind of job are you getting when you get out of school?
- [109:27]
A
You're paying somebody to get the degree. You got 700 grand. What are we talking about?
- [109:30]
G
So, but that's not life changing money. That doesn't last forever.
- [109:34]
A
No. Yeah, but I'm hiring a fleet of people to make me a doctor. You know, they're doing online classes, University of Phoenix. $700,000 should be able to acquire a team of people that can be Pat McAfee at the University of Phoenix, Phoenix and make me a doctor. I don't know if everybody's going to do that. That's in college football, but I'm just pitching one idea.
- [109:51]
G
That is a hell of an idea.
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A
That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking. That's what they should do. But those guys are going to get another year of $700,000. And to your point about the five years of eligibility, that's definitely happening because coaches certainly would like a very experienced player to get another year. And players that aren't going to make the NFL would certainly like another year of eligibility. Eligibility of earning six figures to play football before they go join the CFL or the ufl. AJ has a question for you back in the Thunderdome. Coach David.
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B
Yeah, Coach, how do you think the game, what are you looking for? I guess tomorrow night in this game with Miami and Florida, what are you looking for early on? Like what do you want to see?
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G
Well, I think Florida has the best roster, you know, They've had for a long time now. I think the quarterback has struggled, and I think he struggled because he's not been able to practice, so he's not been able to get enough reps. You know, some guys can play without practice, and some guys need to get reps to be able to get it right.
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F
Yeah.
- [110:45]
G
And I don't know this guy, but, you know, he hadn't played well because he hadn't been able to practice much. But they have a good roster, and I think if the quarterback plays better, that they can be. They can be a team that could just about beat anybody. Their defense is pretty good. They got a big offensive line. They've got a decent back. I think they can be pretty good. I think Miami is one of the most complete teams that I've seen from being physical, being balanced on offense, being able to run the ball, being able to pass the ball with a good quarterback and good skill guys and make explosive plays, as well as the fact that they're playing very well on defense and they've got a very good front. You know, I love Jason Taylor. He was one of the best guys. Best players never had the opportunity to be around coach. I'm talking about from an attitude standpoint, from a leadership standpoint. He's a great player, too, but. And he's coaching that defensive line, and those guys have gotten better every year, and now they got a pretty dominant front and the back end's a lot better. They did a great job in the transfer portal, getting some guys that could play in the back. So they have one of the most complete teams I've seen so far this year before.
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A
We have the heart out here and we still send you on your day with Ms. Terry. Ms. Terry's here, by the way. Boys.
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D
Hi, Mr.
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A
Blessed, as they all say. Hello. Mysterious.
- [112:01]
G
That's why I'm behaving up here.
- [112:02]
A
Yeah. I see you didn't go to your normal dance routine. Yeah. Ms. Terrence, great to see you. Thank you for having him here. Looking the way he looks, acting the way he acts. Mario Cristobal was up here earlier. I almost shot for a single leg and then choked him out. Didn't do that because he's got a big game tomorrow. He's bad. Badass. He seems awesome. He seems like the perfect guy for this job. He said when he was a kid he was a Hurricanes fan. Obviously plays here, and then now he's back here, it feels like he is the perfect guy for this job. Do you agree?
- [112:28]
G
He's the perfect guy for this job. You know, not only is he a good coach and he's really, really enthusiastic. He's got great energy. He impacts other people in a positive way. But, you know, we used to recruit down here when he was on our staff. We go in all these schools, man, everybody speaks Spanish. He, he's right in there speaking with them. I mean, like, I'm like, recruiting in a foreign country or something. I mean, but everybody loved the guy because he has a great personality and, you know, he's great around people. And I think the big challenge for him is can his players and his team keep the edge throughout the season having success?
- [113:08]
A
Yeah, because once you win a couple, especially down here in Miami, there's some distractions. You know, I think we all understand that Gumpy's been down here for about eight days in total in the off season, and we almost lost him in this job. Yeah, I couldn't even imagine professional athletics. So, I mean, he is Miami fan, though, through and through. Any question for Coach Saban now that we're down there in your turf here, Gumps? Yeah. Did you watch the game at all last night? You see how to and the Dolphins looked against the Bills, Coach?
- [113:32]
G
No, I did not watch the game last night. But I, I, I was, you know, very interested in listening to Josh Allen's comments because I think that guy's a great player, great competitor. You know, I would, I wanted to ask him, like, I'm a coach. So I want to know, how did you guys practice? You know, you practice in the morning, you practice in the afternoon. I mean, how did you practice? Because when I was here in the Dolphins, we practiced in the morning because it was so hot all the time. And, you know, I mean, watch the film after practice rather than watching it before practice. And I just like to ask some of those, coach type, why didn't you ask him?
- [114:08]
A
You're right here, Coach. If you would like to co host anytime, please do that. AJ Obviously, back in the Thunderdome. The boys are back there. They can't wait to see you in person. We will continue digitally throughout the next hour or so while we pick games and have a good time. Have the greatest weekend of your life. Football is going to deliver. Tomorrow morning. We will be live here from Miami. Be a friend. Tell a friend something I said might change their life. Goodbye. I think we nailed it.
- [114:31]
G
Got it.
- [114:31]
A
Hero down there. That was, that was situate. That was situational awareness right there. Coach. You see that?
- [114:35]
G
Yeah.
- [114:36]
C
Good clock, man.
- [114:36]
A
Yeah. We had no timeouts. Yeah, we had no timeouts. We had a rookie at running back, too, so right before the snap, we had to tell him, hey, get out of bounds. You know, that's what we had. We had to do that entire thing right there. Okay. Coach Saban, ladies and gentlemen, we appreciate.
- [114:52]
G
Thank you. Thanks. Thank you.
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B
Object constancy.
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D
Yeah. You nailed it. You're asking the wrong guys, I think. I'm not sure exactly.
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C
Yeah, constancy is what he said.
- [115:05]
A
Yeah, whatever.
- [115:06]
C
Yeah. Or was it objective consistency?
- [115:10]
E
It was object constancy.
- [115:11]
B
Okay, what does that mean exactly? Ty, how do you take that?
- [115:15]
E
You gotta have something you're, you know, striving for.
- [115:18]
B
You're working towards one common goal.
- [115:20]
D
That's a real fancy word for that. Yeah.
- [115:21]
E
You can't just, you know, be kind of lollygagging along.
- [115:25]
C
No, you cannot.
- [115:25]
E
With no end goal, no end game in sight, you kind of always need to be striving to be moving towards.
- [115:31]
B
Object permanence is the cognitive understanding that objects and people continue to exist even when they're out of sight. That's a good. Different thing, though.
- [115:39]
E
But he also didn't say object permanence.
- [115:42]
A
So I don't know why, when Bruce is bringing that up. When you Google object constancy, object project permanence. AI. You're telling me Google's AI doesn't know what Nick Saban knows about leadership?
- [115:55]
B
That is what I'm.
- [115:57]
A
Motivation. This is the human difference. We got it. They don't. Okay, we gotta remember that about AI. They never have Nick Saban's brain. We got it. Okay, so that's a win for the humans on the other side. We will see how many wins we're able to rack up, aj. Hawk, we're gonna pick the entire slate of NFL games. AJ is currently seeing the field pretty well. Even though we both lost last night. Okay, we're both completely defeated. This was going to be the weekend we were going to go completely undefeated. Do you remember that, aj?
- [116:23]
B
I do. But from here on out. That was the plan. Now, from here on out.
- [116:25]
D
Yeah, still possible. Just the weekend slate.
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Weekend slate.
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Y. Oh, that's crazy. We're both O and O.
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Boom.
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Going into a weekend.
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B
Football it's what we're Doing Pat, how's it going, man? You look pretty. It looks like the temperature's rising a little bit over there. It looks like you're. What did you say, you bake or you broil from the inside out when you're down there?
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A
Well, it's actually good cooking terms. I know my way around a kitchen. I'll be royal when I come down to one of these hot places. You can also just go ahead and compare my body currently to being inside of a crock pot. And when I am crock potted like I am down here in the humidity, honestly, it brings the best out of me, you know, because I started sweating as soon as I landed down here. I won't stop sweating until I leave down here. And it's a constant battle of staying hydrated and making sure you don't cramp up. Because when you cramp up, you look like an. If you look like an, you ruin everybody's good time. And that's what I'm trying not to do is just ruin everybody's good time. Because that's what we're about to have down here. Okay. I think the crowd tomorrow is about to be pretty electrifying on campus. Okay. Here in Miami. Haven't happened Since I think 2017 or something like that. Anytime we go to a place that game day has not been for a long time, normally there's a big time, big time, you know, sense of welcome. Welcome.
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B
Yeah.
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A
A lot of buzz and I can't wait for it, to be honest. It is beautiful. I wish, I don't wish. I wish this was like six weeks from now, seven weeks from now. There's a chance we come back here. There's a chance we come back here. You know, like if. Because Indianapolis last night was what, 85? Yeah, I think it was 85. 90 degrees. But now nowhere near the amount of humidity, but it still felt like a summer day, a summer night yesterday in Indiana. Six, seven weeks from now, we're going to be about two, three weeks into the no sun time in the Midwest. And this is perfect for that. You know, people actually are described as certain things whenever they come down here and seek that. But it's an honor to be here. It's awesome to be here. And AJ thank you for traveling out to the Thunderdome, my brother.
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B
Of course, man. You want to, you want to pick these games? Like I said, we are zero and zero, both of us, right now. We may have lost last night, but, you know, we're moving on, aren't we?
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A
No, we. Don't count it. Nobody knows, okay?
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D
Yeah, yeah.
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A
Nobody knows.
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D
Wipe it off.
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B
You're right.
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A
Yeah. Nobody even knows. I love you too, man. I have no idea where that person came from. Jets at Tampa Bay. Buck. I have no idea. It could be anywhere. They could be at the pool. They could be coming out of class. Over here. There's a walkway back here. There's a pond over here. Sure. There's a couple gators in there. You gotta do what you gotta do. The, the. The campus is alive. The campus is alive. Jets at Tampa Bay, 1pm on Fox. 43.5 over under six and a half point favorites are the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The jets, because Justin Fields has a concussion, are potentially using quarterback two. Definitely using quarterback two. Justin Fields has officially been ruled out against Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Obviously, Tampa Bay coming after a huge last minute win. And then also Baker Mayfield describing what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers need to be heard, or how he describes them needs to be heard before we make a selection on this particular pick. Run that foxy moment in the game, you took a pretty hard hit and I mean, it looked like you could have been seriously hurt and you sprang right back up and just started jawing with C.J. cartner. Johnson. Just what's the mentality like in those.
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Moments for you, we don't take any shit.
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I'll take the Buccaneers, I'll take the Buccaneers minus six and a half. Aj, your thoughts?
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B
I think you know where I stand here. Give me the Buccaneers minus six and a half. When you're your quarterback is making comments like that and you know, responding like that in the field. Yeah. How can you not root for this guy?
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Well and also how about as soon as he gets up in CJ GJ's face, which is awesome, his teammate goes from like stopping him to actually just turning and helping him. Like yeah, actually we are fighting right now. Like I, I like what the Buccaneers mindset is also ba coming to town every single week. I think we're a little bit more up on Tampa Bay than most places because we're hearing from a guy who's very close to the building down there and the vibes are immaculate. It's like go on Buccaneers. And then on the flip side, Justin Fields and the jets could be a tough start for the Aaron Glenn regime in ERA in New York, but hey, they're going to get to the right spot eventually. Go on Tampa Bay Buccaneers next game. AJ that we're going to be picking is a big one because it involves the Thunderdome. Pittsburgh Steelers Tone and Nick taking on the New England Patriots of Boston. Connor, con man underdogs at home hosting the Pittsburgh Steelers. Your thoughts of how the Patriots are going to show up?
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I'm in a really bad spot now as a Patriots fan because I believe that they are a very good football team and that's a problem just because I don't like to think that because it only sets you up for failure. Christian Gonzalez practiced for the first time this week. He's officially questionable. Yep. But it is believed that he will make his debut. Keon White had an illness. He didn't practice this week. Westover should be back. Not as big of a deal. I think he changes the game for New England. Christian Gonzalez, I think he's the the corner that completely sets off one side of the field and then it's kind of a ten man game. So that's the only question mark so far for New England, but I feel really good about it, especially being dogs. And most importantly, the Patriots will be wearing their red throwback jerseys and Julian Edelman is going into the hall of Fame this Sunday.
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Congrats to Julian Edelman.
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Well deserved.
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I think he's actual hall of Famer as well, not Patriots hall of Fame. I have massive respect for the Kent State Golden Flash stud Julian Edelman. Congrats to him getting honored this weekend by an organization that he obviously loves and committed a lot to. Let's talk about committing a lot to an organization and Bill Parcells. That's a huge weekend. Congratulations to both of them. Well earned. Let's go to another organization that is beloved by a man, tone. Steelers favored by a point and a half in Foxborough. Do you like that or hate that right now?
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I hate that. I don't know why. I'm not sure why, but no, I think, I think the offense will be fine. Watch out for Milton, Williams and Barmore on the New England Patriots D line. They have struggled with, you know, big defensive linemen so far this season. So something to look at there. I am just looking like Gump was. I'm just looking for a little fight on the defense.
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Just a little favored. You're looking for fight off from the.
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C
Defense, from the defense, just looking for a little fight from the defense. If they look bad again on defense, it doesn't matter what the offense looks like. So I just want a little fight from that run defense. I do think they're going to score some points, but I, I really just don't want to watch them get gashed for six yards of carry.
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Let's go to back back row. Nick Moraldo, Steelers fan taking on the Patriots, hoping for a dub. So Connor doesn't literally dance in your face, Nick, or what are the thoughts going into this one? That's all we can hope for, Pat.
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And you know, everyone knows Connor and his eccentricness and I say that as a compliment and he lives and dies.
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With those Pats and if they come in after a win, he is on the moon and if they lose, he is down in the dumps. So.
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You know, I love Conor but boy.
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Would I like to see him down in the dumps. But I'm not expecting it because for.
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All those reasons Tone mentioned the defense.
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Just he said it before this earlier this week, too. When you are a team that gets.
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Run on and gashed like this, you can't stop the run. It is so demoralizing. So there is not a lot of.
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Hope to be able to fix all.
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These problems that go back to last season in a week's time.
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So we'll see. You know, maybe they can pull off a miracle. They traditionally don't play well against New England, but Tomlin is 30 against Frable as a head coach, so.
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And Artie Smith knows his number.
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You're talking about Mike T. Well, go.
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Mike T. Go, Mike T. Go. Go, Mike T. Go.
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Go, Mike T. Go, Mike T. Go. Go, Mike T. Go, Mike T. Go.
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Go, Mike T. Go, Mike T. Go.
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Go, Mike T. My teeth. Go, Mike T. Go, go. Go, Mikey. Go, Mike. Go, Mike T. Get talking about Mike Tomlin there. Not to be confused with Mike Tannenbaum.
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C
One of the most.
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Many people are saying, go, go, Mike T. What get up.
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Did this morning with. That was one of the most disrespectful things I've ever seen on television.
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D
Yeah, you're right.
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Being serious.
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I am.
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We sent a cease and desist to the people that we know. We said a, C and D. We're like, hey, don't you do that. Okay. Don't. There's. There's no reason. Run this. Please run this. Let's go. This is what happens.
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D
Mike T. Is the man.
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Are you high?
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D
Mike T. Is the man.
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Yes.
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Mike T. Mike T. That's my microphone.
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He's the man.
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G
He's the man.
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All you need is love.
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D
Mike T. Is the man.
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The man. Pretty. That's right.
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G
From day one. Mike T. Is the man.
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A
Yeah. Oh, man, I love that. Hold on, though. You got to go after. Afterwards, because they don't really correct it. They just go, that's Mike Tannenbaum. That's for our benefit to put together a new feature called Mike T. Is the Man.
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D
Show the dab.
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A
Yeah, there. There's a. Listen. Put together a new feature called Mike T. Is the Man. He takes it, too. Accepts it. Okay, all right. I like that. Just go ahead and take it. Yeah, he is. Was he talking about me? I didn't see that live.
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C
I don't like to call people's jobs, but some.
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One. No, no. I think Aaron would love. I think Aaron likes Mike.
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C
I'm sure.
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A
Yeah. I mean, I don't know. But also, not a lot of people show Mike T. Mike Tallman, a lot of love publicly either. You know, this guy's had a winning percentage for the last 20 years for Pittsburgh Steelers, and normally whenever he's being talked about, it's in a negative fashion because he either didn't win by enough or doesn't have a team that can win a Super bowl this year. Tone, can you guys win a Super bowl or no?
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If.
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Yes. If the defense plays like the number one overall paid defense in the. In the NFL and they turn into a top five defense magically, like if we get some fairy dust and sprinkle all over their heads and somehow they grow into monsters. Sure.
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A
Yeah, definitely. Okay, so that sounds like he thinks it's like AJ who do you have?
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B
Geez. We know where Tone stands. I mean he's trying to publicly put on a good face but we know he's down in the dumps, no question. But you know what? I think you shouldn't be Tone. I think this is the week that defense figures it out. Yeah, I'm taking the Steelers minus one and a half on the road. I think TJ gets going, gets a couple sacks probably and I feel like the Steelers problems stopping the run. Not all the time but some of the times are very, very fixable things. Pre snap alignments just out of out of place. Whatever it is. I don't think you're going to line up and just pound the ball on the Steelers defense. Give me the Steelers.
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C
Their defense coordinator actually did say it's a lot of alignment issues.
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A
Yeah, okay. A lot of alignment issues. That's not great. We already started the season, we had preseason and training camp, figure that whole thing out. Also a lot of returners and a lot of money spent on that side of the ball. So let's get the alignment figured out. That is good news because I think you can get it fixed. And you know, since Aaron Rodgers and everybody got to the Pittsburgh Steelers there has been object constancy. It has been we are going to win the Super Bowl. That is what the mission is. We are on a one way trip or we are going completely off the rails. We are trying to win a Super Bowl. Everybody's in, everybody's on the same page. And for the Patriots it does feel like the Patriots are in a hey, let's see what we got this year. Let's make improvements, let's be good. But nobody's expecting, I don't think, I don't want to speak for Conor but going into the year there was no thought like hey, we're going to win a Super bowl. This year it was more so like let's, let's see what we got. Maybe we make a run at this thing. Let's find out if Drake May is the guy. Also let's have variable set his culture. Am I accurate in that, Connor?
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D
Yeah. Bingo. No expectation whatsoever is more so like a, hey, ask me about the expectations of the the team for this season, week eight because no one really knows till then.
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So I'll take the Steelers for that object constancy just because it's way too early to give up on that run. But we shall see. I think that is not a good matchup for the Steelers at all. And I don't like that they're favored in Foxborough. Yeah, it's gonna be a tough place to play regardless. Go ahead.
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D
And the spread's very interesting just because, like, I feel as though a lot of the Pittsburgh people have been talking a lot about the O line in the Patriots defense leads the league in pressures and sacks and Gonzalez is only going to help that.
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And I think I'll take the Patriots plus one and a half. Okay. I'll take the Patriots plus one and a half. Let's go, Falcons, Panthers. You and me, con man. Let's go, brother.
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D
Hey, come on.
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A
Feel very good. Come on, Drake.
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D
Hey, one time you just heard Josh out. Josh Allen just said Drake Bates gonna win a Super bowl, win an MVP one day.
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C
Yeah, but he looked up to Aaron Rodgers, so.
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A
Yeah, but didn't he say he's a good kid?
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D
Yeah, he's a good kid.
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B
He's got a hell of a gnar and he's got a howlitzer.
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D
And he said Drake may one day is going to win the MVP and break a lot of records. You heard it.
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A
Okay, I did hear that. He does look up to Aaron Rodgers and still should. I think he's very good. But for some reason just it feels like a very. This feels like a variable day. Falcons, Panthers. Falcons favored by five and a half in Carolina. Anything we need to know about that particular game?
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C
There is a five out there, just so you guys know that. So if you're taking the Falcons, you can get a five. Other than that. No. Everyone, I mean the rookies have been great for the Falcons. Everyone. It seems like everyone is pretty healthy on both sides of that, to be honest with you.
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A
Falcons were on in the trenches. Top five, zero lines and also good D for everything. Db. Yeah, I will take the Falcons minus five in Carolina. AJ Your thoughts?
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B
Yeah, I'm taking the Falcons all day. I love the. This Falcons defense has been doing. I think Penx is going to have a. Have a day as well. So. Yeah, Falcons minus five.
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D
Yeah. Lee get also just for Carolina. He's getting killed on the Internet right now because people are claiming that his accent is bull. So a lot of problems in that wide receiver room right now. Maybe some outside noise.
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A
I mean, they're going to start attacking things whenever things aren't going well.
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D
I agree. I think it's ridiculous. It's an incredible accent.
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A
Why.
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D
Why would we even be fact checking this?
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C
Also in that wide receiver Teto McMillan is leading the league receiving yard.
- [131:43]
B
This guy's good.
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A
Okay. Tet Mack is good. The Irish O is obviously a stud. We're thankful that it's working out for him down there in Carolina. I don't like that. I don't like what you said there. Con man.
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C
I don't like.
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A
Why is he eating squirrel for no reason? They're thinking, like, exactly.
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D
Like, they go all the way.
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A
What else was it? Groundhog he ate or something like that?
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D
Yeah, yeah. I mean, basically.
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E
Basically roadkill.
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D
Raccoon was. Was one of them. But, yeah, people to his, like, sophomore year at South Carolina, and then like, clip together all of his interviews throughout time at South Carolina, and they're like.
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A
Well, when he was at South Carolina, he was trying to speak, you know, in a way that he thought he was supposed to speak. So he went away from who he was. You know, he's a young boy at.
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E
A time, and now he's a man. His voice changed.
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D
What are we talking about?
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A
Dialects change? Yeah, exactly. He got more comfortable and confident in himself and who he actually is. He said, I'll take the raccoon, I'll take the possum, even though the possums are awesome. We got a couple possums at the house. This cool animal. Well, you know, it's a.
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D
Come on.
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A
One of those things that. That's down in Australia. Marsupial water can. There it is. It's marsupial. It's the only one on North America. These things got good brains. These things got good brains. Good eating habits, too. What do you mean?
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B
They eat Lucky Charms from when they live in the walls of your old house.
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A
That was raccoons, okay, Please. We don't have trash pandas around. Although Xavier Leggett does eat those. This is something very different. These are opossums, okay? And they're very docile creatures. They look interesting. They look weird. But they eat in a similar fashion as a raccoon. They use their little fingies, they grab their food, they eat it, they, oh, this is pretty nice. And then they go about their business. So I don't blame, you know, potential eating of those animals because of how cool they look, but it's just not for me. Xavier Leggett, obviously all in. They're saying he's not a good wide receiver right now either. That's not great. Colts taking on the Titans. Colts favored by four and a half. I'll tell you, I've never been more comfortable in a bet before hearing so. Zaire said. Zaire, number 44, captain of the Indianapolis Colts, incredible football player, gets all the tackles. He's really good the he basically, I don't know, people are taking it out of proportion. I think where he says that Cam Warden is not throw what he threw. I hope he, you know, talk a little Cam Ward, you know, and it got blown up. It's like, why would you even say anything that you don't, you know, a lot of people say that's Zaire Franklin football. I think. I think that is. That is what Zaire does. He obviously is a very confident, outspoken guy, is one of the captains of. Of the team. So I think he's comfortable. I don't think we need to piss off Cam Ward or anybody at Tennessee because of how things are going for our team right now. You know, we're vibing, but I'm not on the team. So he feels, however he feels he can say whatever the hell he wants. With that being said, Colts by 100. Okay. This is. This is a brand new Colts team going into Nashville. From what I've been told to city of Nashville understands that this Danny Dimes at different Danny Dimes they're welcoming from what I've been told, the Indianapolis Cold Colts down in that beautiful city of Nashville, they're actually picking them up as a second team. I've heard to people in Nashville like, you know what? Cam Ward's definitely a guy. But this Indianapolis Colts team is what we like. You know, because Danny Bams likes live music. We know that. Loves live music. First place he's going, tin roof. First ever. Tin roof. Where, A.J.
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B
Indianapolis. I'm guessing Pittsburgh.
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A
Nashville. Oh, man. So the team is going to Nashville to take on the Titans. From what we've been told is everything that Nashville is about these Colts boys love. And how could you not with that great city? With that being said, this is going to become a run of Danny Dimes dominance over the Tennessee Titans. And it starts with minus four and a half. I like it. Is that the most? Can I get -4 anywhere?
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C
4 and a half across the board.
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B
You said a million.
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C
Wait, hold on. A four just popped up. You can get four.
- [135:27]
A
Give me it. Give me that. Minus four. Indianapolis Colts. Thank you, A.J. go ahead.
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B
Well, with all of that being said and what is the tin roof? Tin roof? The bar you're chatting about.
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D
Yeah.
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B
I thought it was the bar you guys talk about here. The indie bar. What's that one?
- [135:39]
E
The 10 room 10 whistle.
- [135:41]
A
It's insane.
- [135:42]
D
It is insane. What is going on right now?
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B
What do you mean?
- [135:46]
A
Where are you? Where are you?
- [135:49]
B
I hear gumpy chiming in here. Thanks, Gump.
- [135:52]
A
The thing Is I'm thinking about big time. Hey, he's a big time tin roof.
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C
I hear about an absolute staple hawker.
- [135:58]
B
I know in Indianapolis. I know Gump sits there and sticks his little butt out and sends out the vibe to all the ladies here in India. I didn't think about the Nashville one.
- [136:04]
A
That he goes, is that what you do?
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B
What was that?
- [136:06]
A
You stick your cheeks out. It's. What's that? Not what happens. You drop. What do you do? You do one of these. You do the. You do the. Hey, how we doing?
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B
Yep.
- [136:15]
A
Feels like a hawker move for sure. That's what you do. Yo.
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E
Hey, how we doing, huh?
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B
You guys see these new shoes?
- [136:22]
A
Right? Right?
- [136:23]
B
You guys see these shoes?
- [136:28]
A
You can't do that, by the way, cuz. The place is so packed. Place is so packed. You wouldn't be able to do a.
- [136:32]
D
Cool leg sardines in there.
- [136:34]
A
Even if. Even if Gumpy's little feet. Okay? Gumpy's little feet. I don't even know if they.
- [136:40]
B
Why you do that? That's a bit small.
- [136:44]
A
Come on. Bigger than. This is uncalled for. Gumpy. I don't like. We're in your town. 3. You know, let's just enjoy the campus, okay? Yeah. Yeah. We don't have to pile on Gumps.
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D
Okay, guys.
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B
Come on.
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A
Come on. That's not accurate.
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B
That can't be.
- [137:02]
A
Every once in a while. Every once in a while, these things will be walking in front of me or next to me, and I'll look down and I think, like a child running up on me, you know, I think to myself, like, did. Did McKenzie come?
- [137:13]
B
What do you like? For real?
- [137:14]
D
I can't.
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B
No, not.
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A
I would say this one.
- [137:20]
D
Oh, no.
- [137:21]
A
Come on.
- [137:26]
B
Well, that water ball might be a little too big, but.
- [137:31]
A
There'S no reason. This is so up, guys.
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D
I just want to put that on. I don't want to put that on.
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A
You got to remember how quick these feet are. Nobody's talking about how quick these feet are.
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B
I see him at tst. Super quick feed. I see him warming the boys up, stalking everybody in warm ups with that being said, give me Tennessee on this game. Pat minus four.
- [137:49]
A
What?
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B
Yeah, I just think it's the first time the Colts are going to be away from the loud house. You know, they have the. The nice friendly confines. I think Cam Ward, I mean, he's already. Don't wake him up even more. This guy can make some play. So. Yeah, give me Tennessee here.
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C
Don't wake him up.
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A
All right, so you got Tennessee plus four. And a half. I got the Colts minus four, of course. Bengals with Jake Browning taking on the Minnesota Vikings with an absolute dog named the.
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B
What happened?
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D
Maybe dropped a.
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C
Probably caught.
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A
Yeah.
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E
Some sort of lizard.
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A
A little bit of air, little bit of noise. A little bit of noise here. Two backup quarterbacks battling two and a half point favorites at home. Kevin o' Connell is going to be able to do his magic. Anything we need to know about this one here, con man?
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D
Yes. Jake Browning revenge game, I believe. He's already played. The Vikings beat the piss out of him with the Bengals. He got cut from Minnesota when he came into the NFL, I believe. And then for the Vikings, Aaron Jones is on the ir so it's only Jordan Mason out back, basically.
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C
So he'll didn't practice.
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D
Yeah. Darris probably. Probably not going, I believe. But aside from that, no, that. That's about it.
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A
I cannot wait for the Carson Wentz Experience. Okay. And I think there's a chance that this changes football forever. KOC and Carson Wentz could go one way or the other for a second straight. Today, the vikings listed QB JJ McCarthy has a. Did not practice. Carson Wentz is slated to start Sunday versus the Bengals. Thank God the Carson Wentz Experience is going to have jj we hope you get healthy, jj. We do not want you to obviously miss any games. We would be eager to see your development as an NFL quarterback, especially with everything everybody's ever said about you. But we have seen one quarterback develop through the NFL, okay? And his name is Carson Wentz. From MVP conversations for this man to super bowl champion as a backup to oh, no, everybody gets fired to holy hell, I'm out of town to oh, no, new home. Oh, this didn't work either. More people fired to just bouncing around with an immense amount of talent, but obviously a huge recklessness that nobody else could ever compare to. Carson Wentz. Football is electrifying. So is Jake Browning football. AJ who do you like? How do you like it, man?
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B
Carson Wentz. I am excited to see the Carson Wentz Experience here in Minnesota. But I take Jake Browning and the Cincinnati Bengals at plus two and a half. You could get a three plus three. There we go. Diggs. Appreciate it.
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A
Oh, I don't know what to do on this one.
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B
It's a tough one. Carson might throw six touchdowns. He might.
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A
Yeah. Agree. Gumpy, what do you like? I love the Vikings.
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C
Carson Wentz probably gets in the paint too.
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F
If we know Carl.
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A
I'll take the Vikings. Give me the Vikings minus two and a half. I just want to Bet on Carson Wentz just to feel alive one more time.
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D
I mean, with a backup left tackle, you know, everything going through his mind is, hey, gotta make a play, Carl. Gotta make a play.
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B
Every single time. Every time I drop like whenever.
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A
It's like whenever you drop down in there and you, you start roping your hand onto one of them bulls, you know, and you know what's about to come, but you can't wait for it. You're scared, but you're excited because you never know what that bucking bull is gonna bucking do to you. You know, that's. That's basically Carson Wentz football. And I want to, I want to ride the lightning just one more time with him. So I'm going to go ahead and take KOC and Carson Wentz minus two and a half at home against Jake Browning. Although I know Jake Browning's got a lot of moxie, a great personality and greater football. I know he is all those things. Let's go with the Raiders. Washington Commanders. Marcus Mariota. Potential revenge game three and a half point favorite at home for the Washington team as Geno Smith marks. Mariota officially will start for the Washington Commanders to take on his last team, the Las Vegas Raiders. He is a great quarterback who has certainly filled in well as a backup quarterback and has fell into this role in beautiful fashion. He now will take on Gino Smith, Pete Carroll, Chip Kelly who talks ball with Tom every once in a while.
- [141:48]
D
Not two, not three to five times a week.
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E
No. And they're not discussing game plan.
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A
No.
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B
Just fall.
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A
I don't know what Schrager was saying. Do we talk ball? Sure. What are we about talking Couple guys love ball. What do you want? We have a little coffee maybe out there, we talk ball. Right, Ty? I. I don't think it's that big of a deal with Chip and Tom are talking about.
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E
No, it's not. And you know what? I hate this for Shregs, but I don't know, you know, if it's going to be an open door policy for him at the Raiders facility anytime soon.
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A
You know that's Las Vegas.
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E
I know.
- [142:18]
A
Sorry. Peter Shregs is going to want to be in Las Vegas to move into shaking.
- [142:23]
E
Exactly.
- [142:24]
A
The bacon. He's going to be out there and all of a sudden maybe his father. Second Monday night football gig. Is that what that was? Second?
- [142:31]
D
I'm not sure. That was the first double header of the year, but I'm not sure if he did any.
- [142:35]
E
He was on location at the first one, but I, I Don't think he did any sideline reporting. I think that was his first sideline duty of the season.
- [142:44]
A
So in one of his first ever hits on Monday Night Football, back on the sideline, how jacked up he was. This causes a firestorm throughout the entire NFL. Hey, that's Pete Schrager for football, baby boy.
- [142:54]
C
If two guys can't talk ball, then.
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A
I don't want to.
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C
This is not where I want to live.
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A
Okay?
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C
That's just. And by the way, all the three and a halfs are gone with the news that Jaden is officially at. It's now two and a half or three.
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A
All right, A.J. who do you like? Two and a half or three?
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B
Give me the Raiders on this one. They go on the road, get a big road victory. So what can I get it at?
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A
Plus three.
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B
Plus three? Yeah, Raiders plus three for me.
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A
I'll ride with you there. Green Bay Packers Tucker Craft of avoided catastrophe where he ran through a wall yesterday and missed the stud in the wall by just inches potentially, and hit his shoulder they thought maybe could have been a catastrophe. He also dunked on the upright and the ball came down. He landed on it like a basketball player, rolled his ankle. They thought it could have been a catastrophe. It was not. He actually ran through and tried to spike Matt LaFleur's head off the ground. Matt LaFleur averted killing him, you know, because Matt LaFleur, much like Coach Cristobal, is a Jiu Jitsu black belt. So there's a lot of things. He avoided catastrophe this week in practice. Sounds like he's going to be a go. That's great news, Ty. Seven and a half point favorites in the dog pound. How do you feel about that as a 1pm game?
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E
Well, Micah Parsons was had no injury designation this week, so hopefully his play increases. I don't know how many snaps he's going to play, but if he played the whole game, that would be awesome. Also Aaron Banks, one of the linemen, the guy they paid a lot of money for in the off season, he didn't play Thursday night. He is a go this week. Still missing their right tackle, I believe. I don't think Zach Tom's going to go. So they'll have a backup there again and we'll see. Because although the Browns have got absolutely shite kicked multiple times, I believe statistically they have the best rushing defense in the NFL. And that is the one thing, you know, if you want to nitpick with the packers, they haven't really got Josh Jacobs going Like, they've wanted to, but, I mean, I. I don't know. Earlier in the week, I was thinking, like, oh, I don't think the packers are going to lose, but I could see this being a game much closer than a lot of people were predicting. But again, I don't want to. I'm not going to bet on the Browns. You know, I'll. I'll be so pissed if I bet on the Browns to cover. And the packers win by 17, which I think they can. So we'll see. I mean, again, you know, one of the hottest teams in the NFL right now.
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D
Browns have the weird to.
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B
Before.
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A
I'm sorry. Go.
- [145:07]
D
Yeah, my bad. Browns have that weird, like, very good defense, only at home thing, and who knows if that'll continue. But week one, at least with the Bengals, they kind of held them. Especially after the Bengals. Yeah, I should have won.
- [145:20]
B
How many Miles? How many sacks miles have?
- [145:22]
E
3 and a half already leads the league.
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A
Right.
- [145:24]
C
By the way, these are the two top two rushing defenses. Browns are one, packers are two.
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A
AJ who do you like?
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B
Seven and a half is a lot of points on the road, but I'm gonna take the packers here. I think they keep their. Their hot streak going.
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A
I'm going with you. Los Angeles Rams, take it on the Philadelphia Eagles in Philadelphia. This is a rematch of a huge playoff game last year. The Los Angeles Rams actually played the Philadelphia Eagles better than anybody else throughout the Philadelphia Eagles magical playoff run last year. Matthew Stafford, obviously an absolute beast. Puka Nkula can get the Rock from anywhere. The defense has dogs all over the place, and they're taking on a Philadelphia Eagles team and has coach Sirianni feeling himself. I don't know if you saw the video, but he was sent in this morning. Who knows if Foxy has it or not, but after the big win in Kansas City, Coach Sirianni was walking around before he went in the locker room, and you could hear him say this. We got to turn the volume up. Can you hear that? I cannot hear it.
- [146:22]
D
Yeah, that was awesome.
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A
Okay, so I could not hear it there. I heard it on the plane this morning. As soon as I heard it pumped up, I said, yes, Siri on his back. This is the first one of these we've seen in a long time. Now, I assume there's some messaging about B Rabbit that he gave to the boys before taking on the Kansas City Chiefs, and maybe he even showed. Yeah, this guy, my mom, and the girl into the whole thing. You know, maybe that was. Was a part of the motivation so that's why he was 31 3ing. Everybody put their hand. We don't know what Sirianni's doing in those meetings. And I know Big Dom was also behind him doing this in the team meeting, from what I heard. So shout out to Paisan. Kind of being his cheddar Bob there. So whenever we think about Los Angeles Rams, Philadelphia Eagles, it's hard to just be like. It's hard not to be like. The Philadelphia Eagles are a wagon. This team's in the middle of a potential dynasty. They got everybody back. They're able to win. They just beat the Kansas Chiefs. And everybody's talking about the Kansas City Chiefs being dead. Well, maybe they just played the Philadelphia Eagles. They're favored by three and a half at home. The sportsbook thinks it's going to be close. Tone, how much money is on who here? Do we know that number yet?
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C
Yeah.
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A
On what percentage is on where I.
- [147:23]
C
Pull it up right now. Also, I believe the. While I'm looking that Chiefs have or. Sorry. The Eagles have won 19 straight games. Just something to chew on. There it is. 68 Eagles.
- [147:35]
A
Okay. Yeah. I saw somebody put a list of Jalen hurts, his starts. I guess he got hurt in one game and they had to know. I think Dan Orlovsky tweeted it.
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D
Yeah.
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A
And it was just www And I wish he would have in the middle of that, gone and put, like, in parentheses. I tried to fire the head coach after this one. You know, I was part of calling for the head coach's job after this win. The Chiefs or the Eagles? Yeah, I Wish after like 22:10 there or 25:13, he would have dropped in there because at this moment, we all tried to fire him for the fifth time. Yeah. Headline together. 16. Yeah. That was way too close. Is this guy that. Is this guy the dumbest coach in the history of the NFL after 2216. Then after 2419, is Sirianni a liability after 2618, this guy is the dumbest of all time. 34, 6. Let's talk about other stories. Then we get back to 28, 23. This guy stinks. Like, that was kind of the onslaught that Sirianni had been taking. Now the offensive coordinator is getting some gruff. It sounds like he's potentially the target of everybody this year. And then the Los Angeles Rams. Sean McVay, always good. Always good. Always. Connor, who do you like in this? Connor?
- [148:44]
D
Well, I was going to actually ask you guys. They went from LA to Tennessee last week. A little bit of a trip, but you Know, two hour difference, get a win, then go all the way back to la. Now they're going to la to Philly, one o' clock game. Like, that's gotta be a little tough. Like, I, I personally just assume that they're a little drained. I mean, both two two zero teams. Something's got to give. I love the Rams. Like, I love Devonte and I love Puka and Kyron and Jared Verse and Fisk are awesome to watch. But it does just feel like a long couple weeks for la, maybe. Especially after a Texans game. Week one. That's a tough game. It just kind of feels like maybe Philly does beat the Rams by, you know, field goal, touchdown. One of those games.
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A
Okay. Three and a half is what it is. Can we get any. Anything else?
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C
Yeah, you could get a three if you want. The Eagles.
- [149:35]
A
I'll take the Eagles minus three. Aj, who do you got?
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B
I'm taking the Rams here. Yeah. I like it.
- [149:40]
A
I like that. I like that. I just did that. We were starting to agree too much, don't you think?
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B
Yeah. And I just feel. I don't know what it is. You're right. The Eagles off offense, let's see if they. They. If they get going, they get Saquon going. Maybe. I think the Rams does. Connor, you went through all their. I like, I like what this defense does for the Rams. I love Matt Stafford. Poo.
- [149:58]
A
Yeah. This is a good game.
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B
This is gonna be a great game to watch.
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E
McVeigh is coaching hurt too.
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A
Yeah.
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B
He is playing her fashion, right?
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A
Yeah. Yeah.
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D
It's 10:00am that this is at 1:00'. Clock. I just want to get that out there too. To your point.
- [150:09]
A
Especially with whatever we got coming up in prime time over the next couple weeks. Boom.
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D
Chiefs, Giants. Yeah. Like, come on, give me a break.
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A
Yeah. 10:00am local time there for LA, I think has already been mentioned a couple times. I think that's a bigger deal than people think. Even though Seahawks went into Pittsburgh and handled business, you know?
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D
Yeah.
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A
Okay, so we're. I'm on the Eagles, you're on the Rams. Shout out to both sides. Texans, Jags. Liam Cohen, obviously. Absolute beast down there. They got a good team. Texans 0 and 2. They're to be 0 and 3. Why are the Jags favored by 1 1/2? I'm very flustered here.
- [150:45]
C
I. I don't have an.
- [150:46]
B
Is there a reason? Is there an injury? Is it something no one believes in?
- [150:49]
C
The Texas books think the Jags are a better football?
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E
Yeah. People think that the Texans are kind of dog shite.
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D
Yeah, I'm not sure if there's an update on Brian Thomas Jr. That was a big thing last week. They Cohen said that he had a wrist injury. I'm not sure if he's playing or not. And then also not sure the plan with Travis Hunter or if they're even going to do that anymore where they say he's going to play more offense and defense this week.
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A
Yeah, D Bucks was telling me that there's now a conversation about like, and I don't think DBUT has given his official opinion on it, but he's just saying the conversation is starting seemingly like, hey, should he focus in on one or the other? Is it going to be possible to be able to be great at both in the NFL at the level of football that both sides are? For Travis Hunter, we'll certainly keep an eye on that. One of the most exciting players, I think, to enter the NFL. We'll see how it all pans out down there in Duvall. AJ who do you like?
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B
Man, I don't really like either of these teams when I think about it.
- [151:42]
A
I don't feel great either one.
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B
But I'm gonna go with Jacksonville here. I think they find a way to get it, make it happen, I guess.
- [151:49]
A
Okay. I'll take Cohen and the boys as well. I don't like the Texans going 03, though. I don't like that.
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D
It's hard to imagine, but last, last team to do it, right? Hey, maybe the Texans are just the 0 and 3 franchise that gets to make the playoffs when they go 0.
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A
And 3, I guess. All right, so maybe down there in Shad Khan pool paradise, they're able to pull it off. Denver Broncos taking on the Chargers now this is a good one here. Oh, yeah, four o'. Clock. We appreciate the fact that that is happening. Denver Broncos Sean Payton after a, you know, tough game against the Indianapolis coach. That's going to happen a lot, though, taking on the Chargers team that we all think could potentially win it all this year. This is a special year for the Chargers that are brewing and we thought it was going to be an incredible year for the Denver Broncos. We ran the video of us going out and seeing the Chargers new practice facility and in there I actually say I was reminded during the break while we were running it, I said, you know what, everybody's rowing in the same direct look at the look out for the Chargers. I said, strictly off of vibes and I'm a big vibes guy. I'm going to continue that. Give me The Los Angeles Chargers at home winning by at least two and a half. Can I get that at two?
- [152:48]
C
No, the. It's two and a half.
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A
Or. Or three. A.J. you want three with the Broncos?
- [152:53]
B
Yes, I do. Give me the Broncos plus three. I'll take it.
- [152:56]
A
Okay. Gumpy loves it. Gumpy, what are you going with? I love the Chargers. They are. I'll be the last guy to admit it when they. I don't think they're good.
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C
They are unbelievable this season. The way their defense plays is incredible.
- [153:07]
A
Man. I wonder if Herbert was the right pick there. Okay, let's go to the next one.
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D
Would love to know the stats on how many times Sean Payton's lost three straight games.
- [153:18]
B
Has it ever happened?
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D
Boy, oh boy, I'm not sure who.
- [153:20]
A
They stats are running into. Danny Dimes, you know, what are the stats on having to run into this team? That is a chugga, chugga, chugga, chugga, juggernaut, brother. Okay, I think that stuff. Saints, Seahawks, Seahawks minus seven and a half.
- [153:35]
B
You my pick. Sam Darrow on the Seahawks. You.
- [153:40]
A
Yeah, yeah, me too. Dallas Cowboys taking on the Chicago Bears.
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B
I'll take the Cowboys.
- [153:45]
A
Cowboys favorite. Okay, me too. San Francisco. San Francisco hosting the Arizona Cardinals. Favored by two and a half. They have potentially Mac Jones. Even though Brock Purdy might be getting his way back in to the lineup, he looked good in practice. He didn't seemingly have extra braces he was throwing. He looked like he was getting back into it. Shanahan saying he's wanting to get back. There's a chance he plays. Does it matter if there's Mack or Brock for that offense against this particular Arizona Cardinals team?
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B
AJ I think it does matter. But no, maybe not as much as I think because I like what Mack is able to do. I think whether it's Mack or Brock, I will take the San Francisco 49ers here.
- [154:24]
A
Me as well. Then we got the Chiefs and the Giants. Chiefs favored by six and a half in MetLife.
- [154:31]
C
There's a five and a half out there as well still, if you. If you really like the Chiefs.
- [154:36]
A
Okay, let's go to Bruce Braun, New York Giants on Sunday Night Football. Thank God. Last week you said we didn't give enough coverage to how great Russell Wilson and the New York Giants played. We only paid attention to the last second of both the end of the game and the end of overtime as the Dallas Cowboys broke your heart. After Russell Wilson's most prolific day passing in his entire country career happens to be with the New York Giants. Bruce, are you thinking that maybe the Giants slay the Kansas City Chiefs and send the Chiefs to 03. Oh, my God, that would be insanity on Monday if that was to happen.
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B
I. I am thinking that battle of the Owen twos here, somebody's O has got to go. Made a ton of mistakes week one against the commanders, corrected those mistakes, made different mistakes against the Cowboys. But I, I think we got something that the chief Chiefs don't right now. That's a downfield passing attack. And I think we correct those mistakes.
- [155:28]
A
Cover this six and a half, five.
- [155:30]
B
And a half, no problem. And there is a chance that we do send the Chiefs to 03. I just want to point out, Pat.
- [155:36]
A
That old 37 and 17 against the.
- [155:39]
B
Spread stat, you faded all of them so far. So this is your chance here to.
- [155:43]
A
Take a team that is 02 as.
- [155:46]
B
An underdog against the spread.
- [155:49]
A
I know it's tough for me just to become a believer when these eyes have seen what it's seen, but with these two teams, it hasn't seen that good. It's tough for me not to just pick the Chiefs immediately here, AJ but this has been a new me. I think I've proven that. This is a new me I picked against the Chiefs last week. Why do it again, AJ who are you doing?
- [156:06]
B
Well, you know what? With all that you said from the jump, I was leaning Giants here and I'm going to stick with it. I'm taking Giants plus six and a half.
- [156:14]
A
Wow. Yeah. Could you imagine?
- [156:17]
B
I know. I think the Giants could win this game.
- [156:19]
D
I mean, they really didn't look that bad.
- [156:21]
B
No, I think they. They got some expl. Explosivity on defense, too. That can wreak some havoc.
- [156:27]
A
Yeah.
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D
Hey, yell down there and ask those guys.
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A
Yeah.
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B
See what those guys.
- [156:29]
D
See what the party thinks.
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B
I'm sure they know.
- [156:31]
E
They still.
- [156:32]
D
Are they still doing it or.
- [156:34]
B
They do.
- [156:35]
A
Hey, you like the Giants plus six and a half against the Chiefs? No, the guy, no marks.
- [156:46]
C
I heard him go, no, no.
- [156:48]
A
I'm taking the Giants plus six and a half. I don't believe that guy.
- [156:52]
B
That guy, boom.
- [156:53]
A
He's out in the sun. He's cooking out there. Who knows what he knows. I like the Giants plus six and a half. And Bruce, I'm only doing this so that on Monday I can say, oh, thanks, Bruce. Thanks so much, Bruce. No, we're doing. We're doing it, Thomas. Okay, you sports Colts, as much as you do, I'll support the Giants for you. And I still think the Chiefs win. That's a little double for you. Speaking of a double, why don't you double your happiness with our friends at Doors? Hell yeah. Oh, you got Gumpy. Can you come help me out here again?
- [157:20]
B
Come on.
- [157:21]
A
Can you come? Come let people know that they can order this pizza right here if they really wanted to. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. They could get this particular pizza right here if they really wanted to. To the one that you brought in to share with everybody and you brought into the screen. What is Doordash all about? Well, it's about bringing happiness. It's about putting people in positions to succeed. It's about you hanging out of your house, having a temptation to something. Like this pizza that Gumpy brought into the camera right here and going on Doordash and getting it delivered right to your house. You don't even have to leave your couch. Holy hell. I'd like a five star steak. You got it with our friends at Doordash. I need a little medicine. You got it with your friends at Doordash. How about shorts from Dick's or anywhere else? You got it. And then if you need this piece of pizza that looks so damn delightful and I don't know why Gumpy holds it this way. Every single week, you go to our friends at Doordash. You can save up to 250 bucks this season. When you order on game days, obviously you can scan this QR code and get something really special. Ain't that right, Gumpy? Absolutely. But wait, you're not widening it anymore.
- [158:25]
D
Why eat the pizza.
- [158:26]
C
Don't let go of the rope.
- [158:28]
B
All right, Gump. Gotta hold that.
- [158:29]
A
That's not. I guess you didn't bring pizza this week. Okay. Son of a wrestle palooza tomorrow night in Indianapolis. Obviously everybody's gonna be jacked up. Brock Lesnar, John Cena started what's gonna be the main event there. I don't think that's been announced yet. Excited for the entire evening. Check that out on the ESPN app. Should be fun. Indianapolis will be alive for that. And tomorrow morning's game day. Let's go do some picks for Cena Lesnar. I'll start with Gumpy. Gumpy, you think it's the goat or the beast that'll kick off the ESPN WWE era with a dub?
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C
I think the goat gets the beast one last time.
- [159:02]
A
Okay, John Cena is what Bubba Gumpino is saying. Let's go to the talks to table at Boston. Connor and Ty Schmidt. Who do you like? How do you like it?
- [159:11]
E
I mean, this is a no brainer. This is John Senna's time. So I think, think, you know, had he been called John C. Had he been called the correct name leading up into the promo of this? Probably nothing. But I, I'm guessing hearing him called John Senna about 10 times, that probably, you know, little, little fire in his gut, in his belly, you know, and I don't think he wants, I don't think he wants to, to lose to the Beast incarnate. So I'm going with John Senna.
- [159:35]
D
Yeah, see, I, I, I kind of see it the opposite. You know, I think, I think Senna's thinking like, wait, am I John Cena or am I John Cena? Have I been calling myself the wrong name? I've been saying, you can't see me, but can I see me? You know, that's, that's kind of where I think Senna's at. So I think the Beast comes home. I think it's going to be an absolute wash. The F5. Yeah, you're going to see 15 of them. So if you're in the front row, bring a rag. There's going to be blood in Senna's proposal. Probably not going to be able to come back until shoot, maybe even mania. I mean, he might not be able to finish.
- [160:12]
A
Last time is now last, last, last, Last time is tomorrow potentially with what Brock does to Cena. You know, these guys have known each other a long time. They know each other's style. They know what everybody's about. I thought maybe if John Cena was still, you know, mad and mean and pissed off at the WWE Universe, maybe Brock Lesnar will be able to see a different form of John Cena, you know, but he has seen this particular John Cena before. I don't know if John Cena has seen this Brock Lesnar. Have you seen Brock right now, aj? He looks bigger. I mean, I've only seen him on TV and on clips. He looks bigger and stronger than he's ever looked, does he not?
- [160:48]
G
Huge.
- [160:48]
A
And while John Cena has been going around time to time to time celebrating, you know, the end of this entire thing while filming three different movies, Brock's been, what, up in secluded areas just lifting and eating and training? Got a big boy up there ripping.
- [161:04]
E
Telephone poles out of the ground.
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C
You took all the words right out of my mouth. You ever, you ever seen Rocky 4? Okay, Rocky's out in the Siberian winter training while Drago's got all these nice things. That's what Brock's been doing up There. John doesn't know who he is. Is he a heel? Is he a face?
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A
This.
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C
Tell you what, the entrances may take longer than the. The match, actually.
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A
So.
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C
Yeah, give me, bro.
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A
Yeah. You think Brock's gonna end this thing quick? You don't think John Santa's going to go well, you think he's just gonna roll over and flop around? They are, right.
- [161:33]
C
I don't think he has a choice. I don't think he has a choice, brother.
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A
This is the beast incarnate. When this happen.
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C
Sin is old.
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A
He'll be big.
- [161:46]
E
What?
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D
Yeah. Sin is old and he's thinking about acting.
- [161:49]
C
He's lost the. His fastball.
- [161:51]
A
Oh, you think he's a little Ricky sticky in around has never thought about Brocky Sticki ever.
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D
S around like this.
- [162:00]
C
Just like this.
- [162:00]
E
Bones kick your.
- [162:02]
D
Brock's walking around like this. Like where the mother and S is like.
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A
Yeah.
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D
Wrestling.
- [162:10]
C
Brock lives for one thing, and that's 1, 2, 3.
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D
Yeah.
- [162:13]
A
True.
- [162:13]
E
Oh, Santa doesn't.
- [162:14]
A
And rest. No. And wrestle. Excuse me. Senna's taking an L at some point. Brock Lesnar's lost, too, hasn't he?
- [162:25]
C
No.
- [162:25]
A
Nobody beat him, right? No. Never. No.
- [162:27]
B
Maybe dq.
- [162:28]
C
Never.
- [162:29]
D
Yeah. That's revisiting this history. And, you know, to. To your point, you know, Brock does count. One, two, three. Senate counts. Three, two, one.
- [162:36]
A
Action.
- [162:37]
D
You know, it's completely.
- [162:41]
G
Actually.
- [162:41]
B
See what you did there?
- [162:42]
A
How good did you feel about that? I'm just pissed that I didn't just.
- [162:48]
D
Jump in and say it immediately after Tony. Tony said that one.
- [162:52]
B
But I still got it out.
- [162:53]
A
Still getting my shots up. Still get my throat. Still get your shots up. Still get your shots up. Go get your shots up. AJ who do you like? Brocker? John.
- [163:00]
B
I mean, after what con man I just threw us through out there.
- [163:02]
A
Now, I like.
- [163:03]
B
I like Brock here. I think Brock may win in under 30 seconds, too. They're gonna kick everything off with a bang. Here we go. Let's get the rest of the card in.
- [163:11]
A
All right. Well, good luck to the John Cena supporters and the Brock Lesnar supporters. Good luck to all football fans as we're about to have an incredible weekend as this football season is going to continue to dazzle, entertain, and enlighten us about the good things in this life which is coming together to celebrate one thing, and that's ball. We'll be doing that on Overreaction Monday. Have the greatest weekend of your life. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of your day and for allowing us to do this for a living. Shout to the GM of Miami Baseball giving me a baseball jersey.
- [163:38]
E
Hell yeah.
- [163:40]
A
I try to put this thing on, it is gonna be a little tight. Okay. A little motivation maybe for me not to be the type body type that I'm currently trying to achieve. Maybe try to get a little bit tighter so I can get this. If not, Gumpy might be wearing this thing pretty soon. Go Hurricanes and go guide us. We appreciate them being a part of tomorrow as well. All right, A.J. anything for the. For the team.
- [164:01]
B
No, I thought Gumpy may have had some. Some encouraging words as we sign off here.
- [164:08]
A
Oh, yeah, he thought you maybe would have encouraging words.
- [164:12]
C
Oh, yeah, for sure, A.J.
- [164:13]
F
Thank you, A.J.
- [164:14]
C
That'S a great sweater. Go Ohio State. Good luck to all the college football teams tomorrow. Everybody's NFL teams on Sunday. Let's have the greatest football weekend of all time.
- [164:28]
A
Something nice. It might change your life. We're just together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye. Talk about stepping up. It's time to level up your game. Introducing the all new ESPN app. All of ESPN all in one place. Your home for the most live sports and the best championship moments. The electricity is powerful. Step up your game. With no annual contract required. It's the ultimate fan experience. Level up. For More on the ESPN app or at stream.espn.com Sign up now.
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C
You've seen the headlines, heard the debates.
- [165:07]
A
The three point ball has created a.
- [165:08]
E
Monotonous rhythm to the game.
- [165:10]
A
Has the three pointer ruined basketball? And how did we get here?
- [165:14]
H
The rise of the three point shot can be partially traced to an eccentric.
- [165:18]
A
Kansas genius named Martin Manley, whose story.
- [165:21]
G
Didn'T turn out quite the way he imagined.
- [165:23]
A
I decided I wanted to have one of the most organized goodbyes in history. 30 for 30 podcast presents Chasing Basketball Heaven. Available now wherever you get your podcasts.