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PMS 2.0 1413 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 3 Recap, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Peter Schrager, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Pat McAfee
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this glorious overreaction. Monday, September 22, 2025 this program begins now.
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Boston Connor
Football.
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Pat McAfee
It's magical and obviously tonight we have a huge game to wrap up Week 3 of the NFL season on Monday Night Football as the Lions and the Ravens will do battle in a game in which the over under is way over 50, 53 and a half is the over under. They're expecting a lot. Jared Goff and this Detroit Lions team continue to be a wagon offensively like they have shown whenever they had Ben Johnson as their offensive coordinator the past couple of years. Didn't show it, you know, the first week of this this season, then second week they were a juggernaut. Will that continue against a Baltimore Ravens team that tricked one off week one, but has been nothing but electrifying with Lamar Jackson at quarterback? He has the highest QBR in the history of the game. Will that continue tonight against a Detroit Lions defense that woke up last week when Kelvin Shepard said, I want to hear any excus. I want everybody out there flying around. We got a great one tonight. A lot of characters, a lot of superstars, a lot of great ball. Wrapping up week three, which was a lot of blowouts to thrillers, college ball was electrifying the toxic tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer Cowboys AP Tone is here. His Steelers stole one up there in New England from the New England Patriots who had five turnovers, two on the goal line. Seven seconds left in the first half. Drake May throws a pick that should have been a touch in the end zone. Then there's a fumble reach fumble, bang, turnover. That's 14 points that the New England Patriots just left literally on the board. Then there was three other turnovers. On top of that. Feels like maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers defense is back. But on the Thunderdome stage here, the Pittsburgh Steelers get a massive win over the New England Patriots. AP Tone, are you guys winning a Super Bowl?
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Ty Schmidt
I said it today. The super bowl is back on in my hearts of hearts.
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Boston Connor
Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
And you could say the Patriots gave this one away. Or they just don't care about the ball. They don't care about the program. And the Steelers know what the program is and it's the ball.
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Pat McAfee
It's a very coach team.
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AP Tone
That's a good question. I think we're all asking it right now. Pat. It's ridiculous.
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Boston Connor
The ball's.
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AP Tone
The program is pretty simple. Hold on to the damn ball. Especially if you're getting paid to do It. Ramondre Stevens.
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Pat McAfee
Well, and Ty, we just skipped over you. Don't, don't you even worry about the Green Bay Packers. Go ahead and just. You can win this game. Cleveland Browns. When nobody's talking about Cleveland Browns not.
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Ty Schmidt
Ass, we should be talking about the Cleveland Browns today.
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Pat McAfee
They are not ass.
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Ty Schmidt
No, they're not.
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Pat McAfee
The Cleveland Browns are not asked at all. Especially in Cleveland. That defense does things there that really maybe take the best team in ball, the most full team in ball, take him deep into the fourth quarter and just make them break at the very end. Ty, how's it feel knowing the Green Bay packers do have a blemish? The Green Bay packers maybe not perfect. And Michael Parsons says every once in a while, shit happens. We just got to move on. Is that how all packers fans are feeling? Or are the Cleveland Browns maybe a lot better than anybody could talk about because it was all a shit show going into the season?
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I think it's a little bit of both. Listen, the, the, this might be the best defense of all time. This Browns defense in 2025. We'll see. That being said, you can't lose to the Browns. You just can't do it. I don't care who's out there. I don't care how good their defense is. The packers slept, walked through the entire game. And you're right, they did. They just puked all over themselves. They had a 10 point lead, you know, with three minutes left. I mean, just defense was unbelievable. Again, the offense, not good, a lot of injuries. I choose to just kind of maybe laugh it off and say, hey, you know, we, we need to throw a little water on this. Hey, this team's going to win the Super Bowl. You know, they're, they're young, but Jesus, that was just a pitiful way to spend a Sunday. But we're going to be okay. The Browns are much better than a lot of people are giving them.
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Pat McAfee
Browns defense at home. Eight sacks, tied most in the NFL. 2.4 yards per rush against them, first in the NFL, 3.4 yards per play, second in the NFL, 25 pressures, tied for third in the NFL. Now remember, Myles Garrett was paid a king's ransom for good reason. On the defensive side. Feels like they're holding up their end of the bargain. Joe Flacco maybe didn't play his most perfect football.
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Ty Schmidt
He didn't play great.
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Boston Connor
Okay, but yeah, exactly.
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Pat McAfee
They get a win over to packers. Let's go to nine year NFL vet, host of everything, DB, good D, bad D. And also the NFL matchup show which you can watch 6:00am on ESPN. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Baller. We just hit a lot of things here for these teams because there's a lot happening in house into Thunderdome. You and me might be alumni of a team that's the best in the NFL. Will that be the number one story to kick off the first 15? We shall see. Put 15 on the clock. Please welcome first 15. These are things that we think you need to hear about. Now, it might be 15 minutes on the clock, but this is off of the first 15 plays, you know, that are kind of scripted in there. So that clock is there. But it certainly has not worked in the past couple weeks as we have debuted this. Let's dive right into the five big headlines that we seen from the weekend of Ball for the NFL. Number five, how about some super Duper all over the place now? Not great for punters in a lot of situations, not great for kickers in a lot of situations. But everybody talks about the offense. Hey, who this quarterback can lead them. Defense, they got championship defense. Nobody's talking about the third phase. I think we try to bring it up, obviously, because I was a punter, so I have massive respect for the guys playing on special teams, which is back half of the roster. That's a rotating bunch, too. So the special teams coordinator is the only one that addresses the entire team. Offense, defense, and then obviously the guys that are just there for special teams. Because at any moment you can pull from it in any play could win the game. Any play could sway playoff hopes. Super bowl dreams. That's what special teams is. Let's dive into some highlights. Torrey Horton from the Seahawks. I'm sorry. Jalen Lane from the commanders, 90 yard return versus the Raiders. And Tori Horton, Seahawks, 95 yard punt return. They also happen to block a punt. Go ahead and give me that. Seattle Seahawks not only return a punt, block a punt. Should have scooped and scored that one. Put another seven on. But they beat the living dog shite out of the Saints. Feels like a lot of people are doing that. But you got to be able to hold up in special teams down there.
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Darius J. Butler
You got to be able to hold up. We used to call it the fourth down army. We were in Indian. That look complimentary football. That third phase doesn't get talked about enough. But I mean, unbelievable. You got to be an athlete there scooping score. Gotta get seven.
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Pat McAfee
Have to. Okay, let's go to Cameron Dicker of the Chargers. He's had the greatest start in NFL history. First hundred kicks, now he has one to win it. Fourth quarter, five seconds left. Game on the line against division rival. And Cameron Dicker does what Cameron Dicker do. Knocks it right down the middle. Justin Herbert's the real deal. Cameron Dicker might be the best kicker in the history of football. D bugs.
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Darius J. Butler
He might be. And you knew as soon as they got him in field goal range. Now up until this point, we have seen some big time blocks and big time moments. So that would have been the only thing that got in the way of Cameron Dicker. But he is Dicker the kicker. The best in the business. Big time kick. Took three and oh. Against three divisional opponents to start the season. Unbelievable start.
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Pat McAfee
That's a great way to start for the Chargers. Let's go to the Bucks. Chase McLaughlin. He has a 36 yarder to win it. How did we get here, you might ask. Well, let's do some more Special teams earlier. Two minutes left. Will McDonald off the edge, block. And then what, Scoop, Then what? Score cut to Tyron Taylor in the middle of a playoff. Why are we doing that? Touchdown, New York jets special teams block. A Chase McLaughlin kick right up over the center. No leverage was used, no call was made. Game winning blocked kick.
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Boston Connor
Scoop.
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Pat McAfee
Score. Right, Aaron. Glad we did it. We did it. We did it.
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Darius J. Butler
Yes, we did.
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Pat McAfee
What a moment. 149 left in the game. That might be too much for Baker Mayfield.
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Boston Connor
Yeah, right.
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Pat McAfee
All Baker does is have comebacks. Chase McLaughlin would then nail this 36 yarder. Who 29, 27. The Bucs remain undefeated. Unbelievable stuff from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Now let's go to the 49ers. They're starting Mac Jones as their quarterback. They were in a dogfight with the Arizona Cardinals. An absolute dogfight. Eddie Pinheiro knocks one through, wins the game. You know, Moody, who had been kicking for the Niners, lost his confidence. And maybe the op wasn't great. He had been missing a lot of kicks and extra points. Piniero coming out, making that saying, this is my shit. Yeah, this is my shit. Huge for them. Going forward, the Niners might be inevitable. By the way, they got a lot of people hurt.
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Ty Schmidt
A lot of people hurt.
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Pat McAfee
They're still winning. Christian McCaffrey, I got a stat from Hembo. He's on pace to have the most touches in the history of ball. Like truth, like how much they're using him right now. He's on pace to have more touches if he can stay healthy and the Niners can continue to do what they do. And Mac Jones doesn't turn the Ball over.
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AP Tone
Nope.
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Pat McAfee
What's he doing?
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AP Tone
I mean, look, Mac's going to do that sometimes, you know how Mac is. But also, you know, that's just classic Mac Jones.
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Pat McAfee
What he's referring to is Mac Jones, whenever he was asked about the turnover, basically said, I threw the ball right to the guy. Oh, wait, he's a professional athlete. He caught the ball. That's real.
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Boston Connor
That is actually real. True story.
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Pat McAfee
We appreciate Mack having the personality in the moxie and also being undefeated. Congratulations to Matt Jones. He might get paid $100 million. Now let's go to that Packers Browns game, shall we? 2 seconds left. 55 yarder for Andre Smith. How did we get here, though? Well, let's go back. 27 seconds left in the game.
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Ty Schmidt
Unbelievable.
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Boston Connor
Really.
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Pat McAfee
To steal a win against the Browns, no blocked kick. The Cleveland Browns special team. Bunch of dogs in the dog pound. Come around the edge. Got to get a hand on him, Doc. We got to get a body on him. We got to get a better shove on the edge. He comes around, gets a huge block. They scoop it. Only need a few more yards now for you to be in game winning field goal range. And they certainly did. Andre Smith out of Syracuse, right? Don Broadway. What a kick flag was not on the kicking team. And that's how the Cleveland Browns beat the Green Bay Packers. Block kick into a long kick. And that's called stealing that shit from the Green Bay packers tie. What a heartbreaker for you in the dog pond.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, absolute heartbreaker. You just saw it there. 27 seconds. The Browns have no timeouts. They block a kick and Flacco completes one pass. They get down, spike it.
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Pat McAfee
Apparently.
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Ty Schmidt
Didn't think they'd have any time. It is a cool story for this Andre Schmidt guy though, because last week he did, or week one, he did not play well. They were calling for his job. I think he lost his mom. And then for him to respond, you know, this way and absolutely dagger the packers playoff hopes, you know that. I mean, that's. A lot of people are saying, hey, this team can't do anything. You can't beat the Browns. So we'll see.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so you guys are saying we might win some games. This would be fun. But when we got to go on the road and win a big one, we. We lost the Cleveland. I don't know if you're respecting Cleveland and Cleveland or not.
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Darius J. Butler
In.
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AP Tone
Those jerseys are sick.
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Ty Schmidt
Those jerseys are sick. But how many, how many road games you got play a year?
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Darius J. Butler
8.
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Ty Schmidt
Same amount.
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Pat McAfee
Less than half of them.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
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Pat McAfee
So you're worried.
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Ty Schmidt
I mean, we'll see. You know, I wasn't.
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Pat McAfee
And what if the Cleveland Browns are good?
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AP Tone
The Browns line is going to be amazing. We, I mean, we talked about the Giants, I think their D line for a while, and then all of a sudden you think, okay, never mind. Mason Grand, Miles Garrett, and the kid from Ohio. Yeah, all three of were collapsing pockets yesterday.
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Pat McAfee
And we can't talk about super duper special teams without bringing out a super duper play. A man who's over 330 pounds was clocked going. Fastest that he man 330 pounds has ever been clocked going. Ladies and gentlemen, this man, Jordan Davis, should not be able to do what he did as easily and as smoothly as he did it. Now, granted, obviously could fall over and win that game by one, no problem. Instead, clean scoop. Not easy. Balls oblong. Obviously, right after he demoralizes a guard, snags a kick out of midair. Clean scoop. Give me that and let me just go ahead and beat everybody to the end zone. Tight end right there realizes I'm not gonna be able to catch this guy. 330 pounds. He was striding out earlier in the game. It wasn't just Jordan. It wasn't just Jordan. Jalen Carter blocks a kick on this guy, too. I mean, you're talking about Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis getting a block this early, obviously that's going to make other teams think to themselves, like, okay, we gotta be stout against these guys.
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Darius J. Butler
Yep.
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Pat McAfee
But Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis, now that they got one, it's almost like taking a lid off. Like, okay, if we do drive just a strain a little bit, then we get our hands up, we can actually block these kicks. It's like a confidence builder, I think, for people. And Jalen hurts. During Football Night in America came in during Maria Taylor and Jordan Davis conversation and basically said, yeah, I saw you two Georgia boys out there. It's like, this is what we got these guys for. And they did just that. I don't know how one guard is going to stop them. Genuinely. I have no idea how one guard is going to stop on the offensive side. Everybody's talking about the tush push for the Philadelphia Eagles. They just cheat and she's cheating. And they jumped outside again.
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Boston Connor
Yeah.
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AP Tone
Which it is.
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Pat McAfee
And it didn't get going. This is cheating. We are a supporter of the play. It's a football play. You got to do what you got to do. You got to stop them. They did jump off sides again. It didn't get called, but the Tush push, you know, still involves pushing and shit like that. For blocking of kicks, they used to let linebackers, like multiple linebackers go put their hands directly on the cheeks of these D tackles and they would push them and then they would be the ones that would be up there jumping. They got rid of that because they said it was unsafe. Okay. Now on the offensive side, they still got it going on, but they got rid of it on defensive side, now you got Jalen Carter and Jordan Davis. That's basically similar to what it used to be. With four people pushing, I think they're going to use this as an advantage. I think there's a real chance that because they get to this early, they get confident and they're only going to get more debuff.
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Darius J. Butler
I mean, it's a lot of power, a lot of explosiveness right, right in the middle of that deep. And they've been playing great on defense as well. But when you get a guy that big, that tall, and I don't know if we all remember, he blew everybody away at the combine because of how big he was and how explosive he was. I believe he ran like a four, eight or somewhere around at that weight. So to see him scoop and score, we talked about the Seattle one. It should have been a scoop and score. To see him be an athlete like that, scoop and score and take that thing all the way to the career.
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Boston Connor
For a walk off.
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Darius J. Butler
I mean, a terrible beat for a lot of bettors out there who had Rams plus three and a half. But a great way to finish the game for the Eagles.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was a terrible beat. It was a great win, though. Sirianni was losing his shit out there. Jalen hurts like this while watching Jordan Davis run down there. Super casual, no facial expression. Sirianni's watching it happen, looking for flags, taking his headset off and he said, we're meeting at the end. So he's running how fast? I'm gonna try to run about half of that. Yeah, we got it. Good. There's a thought. Get down. Somebody's thinking, no, you know what? Actually go.
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Boston Connor
No. Yeah, score. Go score.
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Pat McAfee
Go look for flags. There's no flags.
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Boston Connor
Holy. Holy. Yes. Yes, yes, yes, we did.
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Pat McAfee
Yes. And right behind him there, the guy with the sunglasses, the mayor, Randy Brown, who's special teams coordinator for the Baltimore Ravens, or special teams, whatever. He's got a really big title. He's been there for a long time. That's his boy.
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Boston Connor
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, he's special teams for the Philadelphia Eagles. They both won super bowl, obviously They've done a lot for special teams. I respect that and appreciate that. But boy, Jalen and Jordan getting that much confidence this early is not good for anybody. Okay. That is not good for any kicker out there. But it is good. Special teams number four. How about we must protect this house. And they did 12, three last yesterday. All the home teams now there were a few that went on road. There was obviously not a zero in that second column. It's just three. Why do you think this is happening? Do you think we got a home field advantage? Do you think it was just a matchup, Steve?
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Darius J. Butler
Maybe just the matchup. So I don't think home field advantage is that big of an issue, especially at this point in the season.
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Pat McAfee
But 12 and 3A division game jumping.
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Darius J. Butler
I mean it is division game. Let's see what do we have here? What is the most surprising win here? The the Browns.
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Pat McAfee
Browns back the Panthers 30 nothing.
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Darius J. Butler
That was Supriya shout out Texas going on Michael Pennix. That was a bad battle.
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Pat McAfee
Good news. Got $180 million of backups.
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Boston Connor
Is that good news?
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AP Tone
And he looked good.
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Pat McAfee
Tony. Home field advantage.
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Boston Connor
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Normally counts what 3, 4 points does.
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Ty Schmidt
And 2 debuts points. 53% of home teams won last year. In 20, in 20, 24. 53% time the home team won. How come we didn't put up the teams that went on the road? Because that's more impressive than the home teams.
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Boston Connor
Who was it?
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Ty Schmidt
It was the Chiefs, which they're a dinosaur.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, great win last night.
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AP Tone
Yeah, that was.
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Pat McAfee
I was trying to watch them be back now. Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey doing a little.
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Boston Connor
It didn't seem like not getting each other grill.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, but they love ball.
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Boston Connor
They do. Are they back?
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Darius J. Butler
And you said he like are they back?
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Pat McAfee
He went by three scores. Yeah, I think any NFL team, I think they're definitely back. Certainly some moments where you go, they don't look like a good team right now. But win by a bunch. That's what Chiefs are.
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Boston Connor
They go on the road until you.
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Ty Schmidt
Expect them to win on the road. You'd expect the best team in the NFL to win on the road. That'd be the Indianapolis Colts right now probably. So they.
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Boston Connor
They did that.
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Ty Schmidt
And the other one you'd expect, you know, the six time super bowl champs, the greatest franchise in NFL history to go on the way in the road. And the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Pat McAfee
They did that. Yeah, you're right.
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Darius J. Butler
I guess only after this is about.
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Pat McAfee
Only the dynastic team.
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Ty Schmidt
Bingo.
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Pat McAfee
Are able to win on a road right now in the NFL. The Chiefs, the Steelers and the Indianapolis.
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Boston Connor
That's right.
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Pat McAfee
That's what we're talking about tonight. Could that change? We shall see. That's number four. Number three, Baker. Baker, comeback maker becomes the second guy since 1950 basically to lead. Yep, three fourth quarter comebacks. And for the first three games of the season last week Baker obviously came off Monday night. He said we don't take no shit. Now he beats the jets in the fourth quarter as well. We saw the blocked kick. The jets definitely thought they were going to win that game. What they didn't realize is you gave this man way too much time. Baker Mayfield. Give me that. Big time throws and big time moments. Feels like the guy's cut of his jib is perfect for this situation. And I'll tell you, football gods bless some teams with some teams of destiny type feel. Three fourth quarter comebacks this early with the mentality that they have D. But I like what the Bucs are cooking this year.
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Darius J. Butler
Yeah, you always hear it in the locker room. Hey, 60 minutes. Whatever it takes to get it done. And now three games in a row where Baker has played his best ball down the stretch to get, you know, get his team over that finish line. And look, three weeks in a row. This is the first time they've been 3, 0 since 2005, I believe as a franchise, which is crazy. And big day for Tampa Bay. I believe they were celebrating 50 years. So Coach Ba will be here. We saw coach Gruden, Derrick Brooks, a bunch of legends out there. Steve Spurrier who was the first quarterback in franchise. I had no clue about that. Ibuka was a superstar again yesterday. So a big, big day for the Tampa Bay Bucs and once again they.
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Pat McAfee
Are believing the Bucs game winning drives thus far. Against the Falcon it was 5 plays, 63 yards in a minute 18. Against the Texans it was 11 plays, 80 yards in 2 minutes and 4 seconds. And against the jets it was 7 plays, 48 yards in a minute 49. They go ahead and just drain that thing.
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Darius J. Butler
Is Baker in that conversation now? Where is. Hey, too much time.
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Pat McAfee
And by the way, backwards hat one time next time looking cool. Baker said, I don't care what I look like, I'm letting you know we ball and we don't take no shit. Respect to Becker, number two. Story of the weekend, backup quarterbacks. Back that thing up all over, folks. Okay, Mac Jones, we talked about him. How about Marcus Mariota? He scores a touchdown. We assumed that was going to happen. Marcus Mariota, football. Congrats to them getting a big Win. And then Carson Wentz.
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Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
In the Minnesota Vikings, we didn't see much of the Carson Wentz experience. What we saw was the best of Carson Wentz.
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Boston Connor
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And they demolished the Bengals. I mean the Bengals. I'm not saying it.
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Boston Connor
No, no, you might.
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Ty Schmidt
You might have.
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Boston Connor
It's time we spent all our teams.
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Pat McAfee
They paid wide receivers, they made a quarterback. They spent 50 of their money on the six positions. I don't know if that's winning football. Then you get Joe Burton. I'm not saying it. It's over.
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AP Tone
Do you want us to say no?
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Boston Connor
No. Keep going. I'm not saying they can't block, they can't tackle, they can't punt, they can't kick, they can't cover.
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AP Tone
The only thing they can do is hope Joe Burrow can bail him out. And guess what? Joe Burrow's big toe is around the neck of Arik Armstead because he ripped it off Week two. All right, so I'm done with the whole Bengals thing. Cincinnati eat poop. All right, that's it.
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Pat McAfee
That's Boston Connor saying your team sucks.
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Boston Connor
And guess what? We're gonna have to see Jake Browning.
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AP Tone
In prop time, and that's shite. Okay? There's a lot of stuff going on with the Bengals that's gonna piss everybody off. And I think that we can foresee it happening.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, well, there was a lot of conversation about that in the offseason. We said, can they win that way? They were able to. Now they don't. Carson Wentz might have been a problem for anybody with Kevin o' Connell on the call, though.
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Boston Connor
Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
And he really only got to get through, like the first couple pages of the playbook, you know, because they were beating the hell out of them, so. They really did. Kevin o' Connell didn't even get to unleash Carson Wentz, so I think it makes sense. Hey, let's unleash this guy in Ireland. Let's introduce them to a brand of football, and we'll get the entire country to maybe even flip. I know they're a Steelers country. Maybe they're going to be fans of the Vikings and Carson Wentz after next Sunday.
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Pat McAfee
I assume McQuade is getting a one on one with Carson. What Carson Wentz is going to tell him, McQuid, don't put this out until, you know, at least kickoff or so. We don't want the Steelers to hear about this, but they're going to unleash me. They're going to unleash me next week for the Irish people to understand what a shamrock could potentially look like out there as it's running on the field.
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AP Tone
Yeah, exactly. The Irish people are going to see pale skin and red hair and be like, okay, this is our. This is our.
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Pat McAfee
And then they're going to see this guy potentially coughing, reckless. They said, this is our guy.
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AP Tone
We're talking about Ireland being a Steelers country. It's going to stay that way. But I think there's a chance that. That Carson Wentz becomes like the LeBron of Ireland.
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Pat McAfee
Dude, think about the Irish people, too. They would love.
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Boston Connor
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, what are we doing? They're going to love that. Carson duis. Now, I know the Steelers have had representation over there. Rooney has served as a diplomat with, I believe, to Ireland. And there's so many Irish people in Pittsburgh and I couldn't even fathom the amount of Irish Steelers fans. So that's going to make for a great game. But if they see Carson Wentz too much, they're not going to turn. Steelers fans are going to hope that he keeps that helmet on.
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Boston Connor
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Because if he takes that thing off.
- [22:25]
Ty Schmidt
Time for a crowd.
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AP Tone
Who is that? Is Seamus playing quarterback for the Vikings?
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Pat McAfee
Is he from County Court now? Where is he? They're not going to turn on their.
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Ty Schmidt
Greatest ambassador of all time, but I'll tell you this.
- [22:35]
Pat McAfee
There it is. Ambassador, diplomatic thing.
- [22:39]
Boston Connor
Carson ain't giving that job back.
- [22:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's certainly a conversation to be had. Another day. We hope JJ gets healthy. Congrats to the Vikings and the number one story of the weekend. You guessed it, best team in ball is right here in Indianapolis, Indiana. Danny Dimes, only guy to do everything that he's done and not have a turnover. The Colts, the only team to ever do what they've done and not have a turnover. The percentage of scoring drives higher than anybody that's ever played ball. Only having one punt through three full games of NFL action is better than everybody that's ever done it before. The defense is all over the place. Brought in the right guys. Lou Annarumo, D coordinator, being one of the right guys being brought in, let alone Cam Bynum and Monique. The energy on the defensive side, different than it's ever felt. And on offense, Tyler Warren is the one. And Danny Dimes is so fucking good. I don't know if he was always this good. I don't know if the Giants ruined it because you see Saquon, he leaves, he wins the Super Bowl. Danny Dimes right now on pace to win an MVP after getting an opportunity that isn't in the New York Giants uniform or organization. What he's doing is awesome. Pittman's awesome. The offense is awesome. The offensive line is awesome. Jonathan Taylor scored three touchdowns. We like that.
- [23:50]
Darius J. Butler
Yep.
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Pat McAfee
We like that a lot. Okay, let's get some tackles. 244. We like that a lot. Let's go. An up value of entire team here. Tuning up the band as the boys were rolling down Broadway. You see that? That's Broadway down there. In Nashville.
- [24:05]
Darius J. Butler
I've been down there.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Great play. I would say Nashville, the city itself, maybe favorite in the country.
- [24:12]
Boston Connor
Really?
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AP Tone
Oh, it's top five. Without a doubt.
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Darius J. Butler
That's a hell of a state. It's top five from Miami.
- [24:17]
Ty Schmidt
Without a body of water.
- [24:18]
AP Tone
It's.
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Pat McAfee
It's okay.
- [24:19]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [24:19]
Pat McAfee
Without body of water.
- [24:20]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Miami doesn't have body water either. Really? Coral Gables. I didn't see that. You get the water flew over it. Yeah. Could feel it. Miami. Coral Gables. Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful. I wasn't in Miami. Was in Coral Gables the entire time. Absolutely glorious. Actually thought about buying a house. Dinner was Zillow.
- [24:35]
Boston Connor
Okay.
- [24:36]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [24:36]
Pat McAfee
All weekend. Good to know while I was down there.
- [24:38]
Ty Schmidt
Property's cheap down there.
- [24:39]
Pat McAfee
Nashville, great time.
- [24:41]
Darius J. Butler
Yes.
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Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [24:42]
AP Tone
When it comes to strictly inside city limits, it is top. Top three.
- [24:46]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [24:46]
Pat McAfee
I don't even know how to do the numbering system because I haven't been to every city. In every city. I've had a good time.
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AP Tone
You've been to the major ones. You're not putting one of those shitty ones.
- [24:54]
Pat McAfee
Nashville is awesome. So we hope that their team becomes good. We hope they become great. I don't know about coach Donner.
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AP Tone
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
I don't know.
- [25:03]
Ty Schmidt
Coach is gonna get fired in the next few weeks here.
- [25:06]
Pat McAfee
I think it looks like it might be good for him. He is.
- [25:08]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [25:08]
Pat McAfee
He's an angry man, wild type.
- [25:11]
AP Tone
Real sawed off prick. Yeah.
- [25:13]
Pat McAfee
What's that? What you said he sawed off a little bit. It does sound like he is that way. Yeah. Yeah.
- [25:18]
Boston Connor
Just.
- [25:18]
AP Tone
Just a little bit. And it's not his fault that the Colts are putting him in a living hell. I think Pittman said is the smartest team I've ever been around. But I mean, has there ever been a greater start for new ownership? I guess we can say commanders, but they didn't even start three and oh last year. Like when it comes to the big three, this is unbelievable. I don't know if there's ever been when it comes to just same players for the most part, same coaching staff.
- [25:43]
Pat McAfee
Well, there's one pretty big difference And I got a lot of heat from a lot of people that don't know ball on the Internet last season. There is one pretty big difference. And I'll tell you what. Might be the greatest quarterback that's ever played in the NFL.
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AP Tone
Yeah.
- [26:00]
Pat McAfee
Might be the best player of all time. So smart. So I was talking to name drop.
- [26:05]
Boston Connor
Boom.
- [26:05]
Pat McAfee
Coming. Peter Berg. Okay. Makes movies. Peter Berg, Giants fan, I think in that area, knew Danny Dimes the entire time. And whenever Danny Dimes got drafted, obviously all Giants people like, who's it? No Remember the reaction?
- [26:19]
Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah, they went crazy.
- [26:20]
Pat McAfee
So Peter Berg started doing research on this guy. He's like, oh, my happiness is going to depend upon this guy. Like bye, bye, bye. His dad, I think Giants fan, the whole thing. Like he gets in there and then I guess people ought to do. We're like, this guy to throw ball like 80 yards if he has like he can run faster than literally everybody. He's got a Duke brain. So like from day one, Peter Berg's like, run, throw far, super genius. This should be a guy. And then in the Giants it doesn't work out. Then he goes to Minnesota and they're like, Minnesota's thinking about offrum. They, they really like what they're seeing, but nobody really knows what it's going to look like. And then with Shane Steichen's offense, feels like he is just fully in control, understands it, it entirely. Shane has empowered him. And we got weapons, yes, we got guys for him. It's like he's getting a chance, I think to finally be the quarterback that he is. But did he need to go through all the shit to get here? Is the question, I guess.
- [27:08]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, probably. And look, it takes time. We talk about all the time, like it's hard to play in the National Football League and you need the people around you. Not only people on the field, but the coaches from the top down, the ownership level. You mentioned the Big Three, but what that tweet from Conti is the biggest thing because the biggest issue with, with Daniel Jones throughout his career was turning the ball over. Not only interceptions, but fumbling the ball. So to go through three complete games without turning the ball over, only punting, you know what, one time is crazy. So him playing well on offense is huge. You know, starting it off Kenny Moore with a pick six. So going on the road and division rival, they talked about kind of even with the intros, they were like, ah, these guys don't have the energy. They're not ready to play today. So when you kind of put that fork in them early and kind of suck the energy out of that building on the road. One of those games, I would assume the coach said, hey, hey, we're gonna have to bring our own juice boys down here in the Music Center. And they did. Kenny Moe did. He left for the injury. We signed Mike Hilton this week, but a big start on both sides of the ball. But Daniel Jones, he has been playing phenomenal. Jonathan Taylor, you mentioned him earlier, like that long touchdown run. That's the type of shit that'd get the whole team on the sideline juiced and going, man. So when you see your guy doing shit like this, you're like, okay, yeah, we're going. So I mean it's all on the table right now. Three and oh played, you know, the combined record of the three opponents he played a little ugly, but you know, I like. We're at.
- [28:26]
Pat McAfee
I like his celebration.
- [28:27]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [28:30]
Pat McAfee
It is great. Don't love what he did, but he's certainly a good football player and seemingly got a lot of years left too. A lot of years left. Very fresh, very fast. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who knows all the things that maybe we weren't able to cover there. Senior NFL Insider for espn. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Let's wrap it up here on the call.
- [28:49]
Boston Connor
Colts.
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Pat McAfee
Danny Dimes. Is this what he was supposed to be? Is this what he always was? It was just the Giants universe, uniform and organization or what is kind of what you're hearing about Danny Dimes on a renaissance type year.
- [29:00]
Adam Schefter
Look, I remember I said this passed off season when there were some teams that were going to be in the market for quarterback. I was surprised at the level of people that had the level of interest that they did in Daniel Jones. Now, not all the situations materialized and the Colts were the team that made the most sense and pursued him the most aggressively. But there were some very smart football people that really liked Daniel Jones that had an interest in making a move on him that didn't need to. And so he winds up in Indianapolis. And again, let's remember this Pat. I would have to look. But was it two years ago, two years ago roughly, that the Giants signed into a contract for about $40 million.
- [29:44]
Pat McAfee
3, 3, 3, 3. They made a playoffs. Remember Minnesota, the whole thing.
- [29:48]
Adam Schefter
Yeah, yeah. No, no. Okay, so it was three years ago. So three years ago they gave him a contract befitting of a franchise quarterback. And that was a year in which what he did was magic. And in Fact, it was so impressive that they opted to resign him over Saquon Barkley because they couldn't do both. They chose for Saquon Barkley.
- [30:08]
Pat McAfee
We don't need to do that, right? Hey, we don't need you to be doing that right there. Okay. We don't need you to be doing that. We're having a good time with Danny Dimes right now. Could have paid both. Okay. Could have paid both. There are places that have. Have certainly made it possible in that type of situation, but we love him here in Indy. Feels like he fits the town perfectly. Not scared to go have a couple beers with the boys, which we love and we respect. Okay, let's move some other news out of the weekend that maybe people need to be caught up with. Shefty, what did we miss maybe in there that's in your department. I saw some Achilles, I think some other injuries. Obviously that's going to happen with football. What should we be paying attention to?
- [30:42]
Adam Schefter
Well, we got a bunch of injuries going on right now. Mike Evans looks like he has got a low grade hamstring strain. We'll see how long he's sidelined. He's missed a few weeks last year with a hamstring injury, so I'm going to guess he misses a little bit of time here. CB Lamb, the thought is a high ankle, but he believes that he could try to play next week. We'll see whether he could do that. Colson Loveland had a hip injury, doesn't appear to be serious at all. And obviously the two big injuries of the day yesterday were at the running back position. Najee Harris, you saw his Achilles on the replay, Pop. Awful injury. The Chargers confirmed after the game it's an Achilles injury. They were waiting to get the MRI for the official word, but I think everybody knows what's coming there with Najee Harris. And of course, we have the situation with James Conner, the Cardinals running back who now suffered a awful ankle injury that's going to end up season and require surgery. I don't even know exactly what it was like, whether it was an ankle dislocation, whether there was also ligament damage. I just know I was told it was severe and it's going to end the season. And that's an enormous blow for a guy who not only is a great running back, but also a leader on that team and incredibly popular in the locker room. So it's. It's a bad scene. And the crowd when they replayed the play on the scoreboard yesterday, gasped when they saw his ankle bend. They didn't even play the replay on tv. And it was just one of those injuries you knew right away. And of course, Nick Bose is about to get his MRI right now as we're talking for his knee injury. We don't know the full extent of it. He obviously was spotted walking off the field. Gave a thumbs down sign to some fans in the stands. Exactly. Kyle Shanahan said he didn't think it was an acl. That was the initial test. What that showed it was intact initially, but they have to go send him out for further testing. And sometimes things show up on a second test that did not a first or sometimes it's not as bad or worse. We'll see. But I know he's about to go into the MRI as I was coming on the air here.
- [32:47]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So hopefully he's good. Obviously walking off means something, but does he might just be a completely different species of human. Especially if you look at him. You think maybe life is a little different for his body than for ours. You mentioned James Conner. He had beaten cancer in the past. I think he's an incredibly tough guy. Obviously, we have nothing but love to send his way. AQ Shipley, who's the color commentator for the Arizona Cardinals for their team broadcast, he sent me texts like, that's one of the nastiest things I've ever seen. Because remember, they didn't show the replay on tv. So as soon as that happens and then we heard the audible gasp from the crowd and then AQ sends. It's like, that's nasty. Hopefully. Obviously we're at the point of science being able to take care of that. You talked about Mike Evans with his injury. Let's stay in Tampa Bay. Connor has a question for you.
- [33:34]
AP Tone
Yeah. Shefty. Similar to Jaden Daniels last week where he got hurt early and then no one really knew about it until it popped up midweek. Is that a situation that's going to happen with Baker here? We saw his right hand bother him during the game. I forget if it got hit or stepped on or what, but that seemed to kind of affect him a little bit, even though he closed strong. Is that something that could linger later on the week?
- [33:56]
Adam Schefter
You know, you know what's interesting about that is on Monday night when they were playing the Texans one week ago, there were a couple of plays that Baker had where I watched his leg bend at certain angles.
- [34:08]
Pat McAfee
Knee.
- [34:09]
Boston Connor
Oh, God.
- [34:10]
Adam Schefter
Like, there was one play. Like, I'm like, this guy got up from that. He's Gumby. Like, that's incredible. And I was talking the Buccaneers the next day, and they went over to Baker after the game, like, you okay? And he's like, And. And his choice of language to them was to basically say with some profanity, get out of my face, basically.
- [34:30]
Pat McAfee
Whoa. I don't know what he said, though. You're a journalist. You need to tell me what he said. I mean, if we're gonna do journalism.
- [34:35]
Boston Connor
Here, let's make sure the first two words.
- [34:38]
Adam Schefter
The first starts with an F. The second one starts with a Y. So that's what. That's what he said.
- [34:43]
AP Tone
Get out of here, you French, you.
- [34:46]
Pat McAfee
Okay, all right. I like that. Is that what he said, though? Because until we know. What did it sound like, though? What was his. The context of the delivery? Because you're the journalist, obviously. We just wanted to make sure.
- [34:56]
Boston Connor
The way I.
- [34:57]
Adam Schefter
The way I wasn't there, but the way I understood it to be, it was like, don't.
- [35:00]
Pat McAfee
Don't.
- [35:01]
Boston Connor
Don't bother. Like, I'm fine.
- [35:02]
Adam Schefter
Like, don't bother.
- [35:03]
Pat McAfee
That's what Baker Mayfield said.
- [35:04]
AP Tone
Don't bother me if it's an F in a Y. Could have been saying that. Like, hey, Froyo postgame.
- [35:10]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Cuz maybe he wanted a little frozen yogurt to maybe make him feel better. And he's trying to diet, obviously, cuz he wants to look like he's getting a little older, so he's not going for a full blizzard, but he'll do the Froyo. But he will take the Oreo.
- [35:23]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Oreo.
- [35:24]
Pat McAfee
And put it on the Froyo. For sure. Yeah. Is that what he said?
- [35:27]
AP Tone
That's good call, cuz.
- [35:29]
Boston Connor
Fy.
- [35:29]
AP Tone
The first thing I thought was, oh, froyo. Baker so focused on his physique.
- [35:32]
Pat McAfee
How's your knee? We don't know.
- [35:37]
Adam Schefter
Oh, now. Now I know. Okay. Now I know how he got to frozen yogurt. I get. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it was a frozen yogurt conversation.
- [35:43]
Pat McAfee
Oh, that's. That's misinformation.
- [35:45]
Boston Connor
Wait, hey, that's.
- [35:46]
Pat McAfee
Hey. People are getting some really harsh penalties for that. You need to watch especially. Hey, right below you there. Right below you on your left side.
- [35:54]
Boston Connor
You didn't watch.
- [35:55]
AP Tone
It was frozen yogurt.
- [35:56]
Boston Connor
Just to clarify.
- [35:57]
Pat McAfee
Okay. He said.
- [35:59]
Adam Schefter
He said you're okay. He said, said, give me some frozen yogurt. Exactly.
- [36:02]
Boston Connor
Okay.
- [36:03]
Pat McAfee
Wow, that's crazy. That's Baker Mayfield football.
- [36:05]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [36:06]
Pat McAfee
That's why we love him. D, Bud has a question for you about that position as you.
- [36:10]
Adam Schefter
Oh, by the way, hold on. It was not fu. So it's not frozen yogurt. It was F. F off with a.
- [36:20]
Darius J. Butler
Smile Makes more sense.
- [36:22]
Pat McAfee
So what would that be? I don't think I've ever heard that really said.
- [36:25]
Adam Schefter
It means, like, I'm fine. You don't have to ask me that question.
- [36:28]
AP Tone
Like, it f5 with a smile. Is that a competition?
- [36:31]
Pat McAfee
That question? That's a lot of different words there. The way you're kind of reciting it versus what it actually was. Doesn't sound the same.
- [36:37]
Adam Schefter
Directed on air, like, in real time. That's my. I will say this. There are many things that I love about doing this program. Many things. Pat's brilliant, so he's never done the show in a Speedo, which I think he should start doing that. Like, there's many things I love, but I love when I'm asked a question. And sometimes either there's a detail that's off or a question and the person is watching the show, and they can text me the information actually in real time as it happens. Like, it was F, off with a smile. That's how it came down.
- [37:11]
Pat McAfee
Well, we're happy that people are watching, and you can watch every game every Sunday.
- [37:18]
Boston Connor
And.
- [37:19]
Adam Schefter
And they. They haven't met today. Like, they haven't had the meetings yet, but. But they think Baker's good.
- [37:24]
Boston Connor
So great news. Okay, go.
- [37:27]
Pat McAfee
Question. If he says effing good, we'll never hear about it from Schefter because he picks and chooses what words to journalize. You know, which. I don't love hat.
- [37:36]
Adam Schefter
I do love frozen yogurt. I do love frozen yogurt. To go to the fy, as opposed to the fo.
- [37:45]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Fo much different. Yeah, you don't want to go to the UFO every game, every Sunday all in one place. YouTube TV.
- [37:52]
Boston Connor
Boom.
- [37:53]
Pat McAfee
Shout them quad blocks. Awesome.
- [37:54]
Boston Connor
Bang.
- [37:54]
Pat McAfee
Are we still watching a Red Zone channel or.
- [37:57]
Boston Connor
No.
- [37:58]
Pat McAfee
Really?
- [37:59]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [37:59]
Ty Schmidt
Couldn't do it. Those 15 seconds, I was like.
- [38:01]
Pat McAfee
I actually did hear it yesterday. It was late. It was very late, and there was something going on on the screen. They put a Wingstop one on, and I heard about some delicious wings. And. And then it stopped. And then it got back to it, and I was like, okay, still doing it. Still doing Red Zone. And once again, we're telling the NFL we don't like that there's ads. We knew they were coming.
- [38:24]
Ty Schmidt
I'm sick of it.
- [38:25]
Pat McAfee
And don't destroy Red Zone with your greedy, corporate fat cat. I would, like, take a stand. Okay, so Baker sounds like he's going to be Effing good. Thank you for that report. D butt has a question for you on that position.
- [38:37]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, Chef. The hopes to text you and give you an update on these guys. The other quarterbacks that have been out. The starting quarterbacks, Brock Purdy and then all the Jays. J.J. mcCarthy, Jaden Daniels, Justin Fields. What's the update on those guys?
- [38:50]
Ty Schmidt
That was cool.
- [38:51]
Darius J. Butler
Boom.
- [38:53]
Adam Schefter
Aaron Glenn was a little bit vague on Justin Fields today, so we'll see whether he's able to make it back. He's got an extra day next week because the jets play on Monday night against the dolphins. JJ McCarthy not expected to play this week. They play in Dublin against the Steelers and again it's an international trip where they play the Steelers in Dublin and then they go play the Browns in London. They are the first team to go to two different countries. The Jaguars have done this back to back weeks to play in two separate countries and I don't think JJ plays in either game because they then have a bye week the next week and then he can be rested and healthy and rejoin the lineup after that. He is traveling with the team. Obviously he became a father last week for the first time but he's going to travel with the team overseas. He'll be with them the entire time. I just don't expect him to play in those two particular games.
- [39:48]
Boston Connor
Marcus Mariota, Justin Fields.
- [39:52]
Adam Schefter
You know Marcus, I would say this Marcus Mariota played well yesterday and I think the way he played gives the commanders time to not have to rush back Jaden Daniels. Now we'll see how Jaden Daniels is doing this week. But when a quarterback plays like that, I think it really allows that team to take its time and know that it's got a capable backup and a capable replacement and. And they haven't declared anything about what their quarterback plans are. I don't think Dan Quinn will come out and say today. Maybe he will. Jaden's back this week and we're all ready. Like I think this is a. This will be something that kind of goes on all week again. And I think that they have the comfort knowing that Marcus played the way he did yesterday. Throwing dimes downfield like that one.
- [40:43]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Andy can run. Scoring touchdown for Marcus Mariota when he's playing. Let's just go ahead and lock that one in. Feels like that is a guarantee. T let's also lock in Mac Jones. Matt. Who? Mac Jones.
- [40:55]
AP Tone
Who?
- [40:56]
Pat McAfee
Mac Jones.
- [40:56]
Boston Connor
Who?
- [40:58]
Pat McAfee
Back then they didn't want him. Now he's hot. We all want him. Mac Jones is the guy out there In San Fran. How long and what does this mean going forward?
- [41:08]
Adam Schefter
Well, he played very well yesterday and led that team to that victory. That's what he do is getting closer and closer. And it wouldn't surprise me if Purdy's back this week finally. Initially, that injury wasn't as bad as they thought. He recovered a little quicker. Still painful. But the fact that he was back limited last week. They ruled him out yesterday morning. But I think Purdy's gonna have a chance, a real chance to go this week.
- [41:36]
Pat McAfee
Okay. And then Justin Fields, what's going on with him? When's he going to be back? Concussion protocol, obviously, is what it is. Yeah.
- [41:43]
Adam Schefter
Again, he's got the extra day built in, so that's encouraging. And again, I think. I think Tyrod Taylor played pretty well yesterday and he's somebody that the team likes, trusts, respects. If Fields clears, then he'll be the guy. He's got an extra day to do it. I don't think that they have the answer to that. Aaron Glenn was pretty vague when he spoke about it earlier today.
- [42:03]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Pretty vague is not what a lot of NFL fans are on the Internet when it comes to this guy. Ty has a question for you.
- [42:11]
Boston Connor
Yeah, Shefty.
- [42:11]
Ty Schmidt
Wow. It was last night the kind of straw that broke the Campbell's back in terms of Russ starting for the Giants. We saw a couple times, you know, him basically just throwing it into the tunnel, throwing it off the uprights, throwing, you know, lobs up there, throwing picks, just looking like pretty much. And then after the game, Dable even said, you know, when asked about the fans boo in the quarterback situation, he basically said, like, yeah, I mean, I would have booed too. Why wouldn't you? So are they done with Russ or are we going to do this whole same song and dance next week?
- [42:41]
Adam Schefter
You know, Brian Dabel didn't want to answer the question after the press conference yesterday. And I think once you answer it once, you kind of get into a habit of opening yourself up to this. So I guess he didn't want to open up the speculation. I think after that series, there were some people that were disappointed. The schedule is so brutal that there's not a great time to go to the young quarterback. They play the Chargers at home, home this week. Schedule right here. I think that they play after that. Here we go. Chargers at home at New Orleans.
- [43:17]
Ty Schmidt
Like, boom.
- [43:18]
Adam Schefter
I mean, that might be good, but. But I don't know if you want to strip the guy at. On the road and then home.
- [43:24]
Pat McAfee
Yes. You definitely won.
- [43:28]
Adam Schefter
That is and then you got home for Philly, that's not. And then at Denver, at Philly, home for San Francisco, like it's a gauntlet.
- [43:36]
Boston Connor
It's got a place uptime.
- [43:38]
Pat McAfee
I mean that's better.
- [43:39]
AP Tone
It'll be after that run.
- [43:40]
Pat McAfee
I mean that is a terrible run for sure. That is a horrendous run. That is not an easy decision. Also Day Ball, Shane, they got to be thinking about their jobs or are they tied with Jackson Darts future success. How's that kind of work? Because you know there is a conversation like these people are going crazy when Jackson jogs on the field and obviously we've seen this before and it not work out out, but we've seen it before and it does work out. He looks like he's built for the moment and we're seeing what we're seeing. Is there a chance that Day Ball and Shane are thinking about their job or they think about the future? What is the mindset over there in the decision making process?
- [44:13]
Adam Schefter
The process has been that they've wanted to stay as patient as they can with Russell Wilson is their starting quarterback with Jackson Dart on the bench. That's been where they. They've been at their own three though right now. Yeah, the fan, Boeing, you know, at some point, at some point they're gonna make the change like it's coming. We just don't know when they're going to break down and go to.
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AP Tone
It's a tough quarterback.
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Pat McAfee
The boys want it today. Chef, the boy, the boys are calling for Jackson Dart today. Now granted one of the boys dealt with Russell last year where Russell had like a four or five games where he was on fire and then it went the other way. And I would like to think thank Russell Wilson for everything he's done for Ball, but if I'm 03 and I think his conversation might come up later about a couple other teams as well, if I'm owing three with what the stats say, what the future looks like for our team, why would you not want to kind of see what you have? I understand that is a tough schedule. That certainly is not a good schedule for the Giants. And if I'm day ball who's potentially on my last leg, I'm not happy that this is what the schedule looks like going forward as we are 03 but boy, it's some point we got to let the old miss boy, the old miss dog try to run out there.
- [45:21]
Ty Schmidt
Didn't they get last place last year?
- [45:26]
Pat McAfee
The following year NFL schedule makers say, hey Giants, that's cute. I didn't like the way D talked about us. Let's go ahead and get him the hell out of here. I mean, it is. Anything else to wrap this entire story up here? D and Shane, are we good?
- [45:41]
Adam Schefter
Jordan Renan just reported that Tyrone Tracy dislocated his shoulder last night.
- [45:47]
Pat McAfee
Starter.
- [45:48]
Boston Connor
Yep.
- [45:49]
Adam Schefter
I would think we're going to see a little bit more of Cam Scatterboo right now moving forward because Tracy will miss multiple weeks. Look at Xavier Worthy. He dislocated his shoulder the first week in the friendly fire incident with Travis Kelsey. He's missed the next two games, and my understanding was that the injury was more severe than people realized. And so now Tyron Tracy's got a dislocated shoulder. He's a running back. He's using that shoulder quite a bit. So, yeah, I think Cam Scatterbo now will step into a larger role with Tracy out.
- [46:20]
Pat McAfee
The world's gonna enjoy Cam Scatter Boo.
- [46:22]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [46:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. The only reason why I know that is because, boy, it was great to learn about him at Arizona State last year, and he should have been known a long time ago. We have this high school clip of him. I posted this last night. I don't know if you saw it. Cam Scatterboo in high school school. Untackleable, actually. Look at this dude. He spros and all stop mixed together. Oh, yeah, he's breaking a couple tackles. This is good for high school. Yeah, we've seen this before. Okay. He's still going. Still going. It's got to be over there, right? Got to be over there. Nope, he's on the other side of it. Cameraman, Cameraman. He's the one scoring the touchdown. Yeah, that's him. Scatterboo has, like, four plays from there. He has a kickoff return, I think, where he has something like that from high school. I have no idea how he ended up at Arizona State and kind of overlooked, but his head is the size of this desk. Okay. And his grit and determination to win is beyond everybody's, and he was overlooked. It's like this dude is a weapon, and his style of play is very much battering race. Yeah. He wants to pond people. It's good for football. If Scottaboo continues. He levitated for that one. I mean, it was like a 4 yard, 12 foot levitation cam scatterboo had, and that's. And then we're gonna hit a backflip. Yep. No problem. In full. I mean, this dude's a real deal dude, and I'm happy he's at the Giants because that's a massive market to kind of get a hold of him. But I wish he was on a team that was potentially going to go on a real run because this dude is legit. Shefty, legit.
- [47:42]
Adam Schefter
First of all, that run that he made in high school, I hadn't seen that before. That's one of the greatest runs I've ever seen from any running back ever. Like that. That's as good as any run I've ever seen. That's, that's like in the beast quake category. That's like in, in Sanders territory. Look at how many tackles he avoids. Just when you think he's down, he's not. He breaks loose again. He absolutely has to be finished here, right? They, they have him wrapped up, thrown down, right? No, they don't. He breaks free again. Chris Berman would have a field day with that highlight. That's all I could think as I'm watching that. He would love that. And Cam Scatterboat to tie. Back to your initial question. I don't understand why the Giants didn't run him when they got down to the four yard line last night on that series with Russell Wilson playing the way he was. Like, how about giving the ball to Cam? Scatter.
- [48:30]
Boston Connor
Boo.
- [48:31]
Pat McAfee
Chris Berman going every single week. Scatter.
- [48:40]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [48:41]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [48:41]
Pat McAfee
I mean it would have been a. Hey, Boom. Come on.
- [48:43]
Boston Connor
Boom. Come on. Boo.
- [48:45]
Pat McAfee
We need that every week. We need. Scatter.
- [48:48]
Darius J. Butler
Boo.
- [48:48]
Pat McAfee
Watch, watch with Chris Berman going forward. Okay, let's talk about another decision that was made that everybody had questions about. But if it worked out, they would have been looked at as geniuses down in Atlanta. Kind of a quarterback conversation. Go ahead, Tone.
- [49:02]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Chefy. We are all big fans of Michael Penix here, but he looked like shite last yesterday. The whole team, the Falcons did not look good in general yesterday, losing on the road to the Panthers. And then Kirk Cousins made an appearance in this game. Was it just because the game was away and they wanted to keep Penix healthy or can we read into this situation? What are, what are your thoughts on this whole situation between Pennix and Kirk Cousins?
- [49:23]
Adam Schefter
That's what it is to me. Michael Penix had a bad day, a terrible day. They were giving him relief. The game was over. Take him out onto a new day. And they were just giving Kirk Cousins some mop up time right there. It wasn't like they're bringing him challenge Michael Penix or anything like that. To me that was, that was one of the more disappointing results of yesterday. Green Bay losing to Cleveland. You've got the Panthers beating the Atlanta Falcons. See, the week before the Falcons on Sunday night were incredibly impressive against the Vikings, Minnesota. It's hard to reconcile how a team could look that good one week and then play like that the next week. That's. That's odd to me.
- [50:07]
Pat McAfee
That's football, baby. Yeah, that's football. That's why the NFL has the parody that it has because you have no idea who's going to show up.
- [50:12]
Boston Connor
No idea.
- [50:13]
Pat McAfee
And getting everybody to kind of row in the same direction whenever there's injuries and there's replacements. That's like super duper special teams. You got guys that are signing on to the team on Thursday that are impacting the game on Sunday. It's like that's why the NFL is the greatest. And we're going to expect it forever. Shout to the Panthers putting it together.
- [50:28]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [50:28]
Pat McAfee
Shout out to the Panthers putting it together. Shout out to the Cleveland Browns being problematic. Now let's look to tonight's game. High scoring affairs. What the sportsbooks are saying over under 53 and a half, Lions and Ravens. Anything we need to know for tonight's game that we should be thinking about?
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Adam Schefter
Yeah, a couple of things, I think. First of all, it wouldn't surprise me if both teams made some roster moves this afternoon. Marcus Davenport's dealing with a chest injury. We'll see whether the Lions go ahead and put him on IR or whether he could avoid that. We'll see whether the Ravens have to put Justin Matabike, their outstanding defensive tackle, on injured reserve. He's got a neck injury. It's a little problematic and it wouldn't surprise me if it. Just before 4 o' clock, we got noticed that Justin Matabique wound up on injured reserve, which would be a loss for that particular defense. Aiden Hutchinson's kind of fighting his way back. You'll notice guys are coming at him. He's facing all kinds of things as he's playing defensive end, which has been interesting to watch some of the ways that teams have gone at him. Interesting.
- [51:33]
Ty Schmidt
Van Noy's outright too, right? Chef D. Yep.
- [51:36]
Boston Connor
What's that? Yeah, he's out.
- [51:37]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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AP Tone
Can you bet on 500 rushing yards? Because both D lines sound like they're completely ravaged.
- [51:45]
Adam Schefter
Well, I mean, Derrick Henry last week the Browns had nine men in the box. It seemed like the entire game and they were determined not to let Henry run. And Ravens had the defense making plays of different sorts. But Derrick Henry last week was a non factor with them playing along like that. I don't think That'll happen again tonight.
- [52:04]
Pat McAfee
All right, Chef. Do we appreciate you on TV all night?
- [52:06]
Adam Schefter
We assume, yeah. We're gonna be doing SportsCenter, NFL Live Monday Night Countdown in the middle of having some fy, hopefully.
- [52:15]
Boston Connor
Hell, yeah.
- [52:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, don't fo, brother. You got a big time day. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL Insider for espn, Adam Schefter.
- [52:22]
AP Tone
Hey, Stephanie.
- [52:23]
Pat McAfee
We appreciate Shafty. All the intel, all the inside notes. Feels like there's a lot of injuries tonight. It's week three.
- [52:28]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Yeah. This is football tough.
- [52:30]
Pat McAfee
We got starting quarterbacks, backup quarterbacks. We got D lines missing. We got a lot of stuff going on, special teams going crazy. I mean, this is a wild start to an NFL season. Now, debug. What are the couple things? Maybe we didn't hit as much as we should there in the first 15.
- [52:43]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, we covered a lot. But you know what I would say with the champs, we start with the. Defend the champs.
- [52:47]
Pat McAfee
Champ.
- [52:47]
Boston Connor
Champ.
- [52:48]
Darius J. Butler
Still the championship. I know a lot of people started to write them off early on, offensive struggles. And then the Rams came out of the gate 26 to 7. I believe they were leading. And can we throw up that passing chart from Jalen Hurts. I haven't seen it much on the Internet after week three, but it's almost like, you know, when he needs to, he can. He threw the ball down the field when he needed to. Second half, they came back 21, 32, 226, three touchdowns, no interception. This is 17 games in a row now, including the playoffs, where he started and finished the games and they have won. It was a conversation between him and his offensive coordinator. A little spirited on the sideline. He spoke a little candidly about that after the game. We can get to that later. But a great job by the Eagles, actually. Know what? Let's get to it now.
- [53:32]
Boston Connor
Jalen, what a comeback. A lot of memorable moments in this ball game.
- [53:36]
Peter Schrager
What are you going to take away.
- [53:37]
Boston Connor
From a victory like today.
- [53:44]
Darius J. Butler
Man? Regardless, it's always good to get a win. It's always good to get a win.
- [53:50]
Pat McAfee
Okay?
- [53:50]
Darius J. Butler
And if that doesn't show you what type of team we are, I don't know what.
- [53:53]
Boston Connor
What does.
- [53:54]
Darius J. Butler
Now, we completely did that to ourselves in the first half.
- [53:58]
Boston Connor
Completely.
- [53:59]
Darius J. Butler
We absolutely, completely did that to ourselves. And that's something we gotta. We gotta fix. It's as simple as that. That it's unacceptable.
- [54:07]
Peter Schrager
It's like you guys said later for this.
- [54:10]
Boston Connor
Whatever happened in that first half, forget about it.
- [54:12]
Peter Schrager
Let's go and show who we are.
- [54:15]
Darius J. Butler
Play so many styles of Football. We're in that first half.
- [54:18]
Pat McAfee
We got to get out of this.
- [54:19]
Darius J. Butler
Play, not to lose. We got to come out aggressive and play our game. You saw our game in the second half.
- [54:25]
Peter Schrager
What about big boy with the block.
- [54:29]
Darius J. Butler
And chugging down the field? Knew he was going to block it. I knew he was going to block it. I just knew he was going to block it. Yeah, we cut it right there. Great effort. So, yeah, him and the Pulo guy, the new oc.
- [54:39]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so everybody's calling for his job last week during every Monday is the new offense coordinator.
- [54:43]
AP Tone
Yeah.
- [54:44]
Pat McAfee
Second half, that offense looked vastly different than the first half. There was one throw to A.J. brown that sprung everything down the right side. As I was watching that, it felt as if you remember AQ Shipley last year, he was like, I like the Eagles offensive line. They got the best offensive line in football. Saquon Barkley is the best running back maybe in the history of football. I don't know if Jalen Hurts is the guy and we attacked AQ immediately for that. It's like, what are you talking about? Like, this guy is the guy. But I think there was a lot of people that had that narrative. Felt like the offense coordinator for the Eagles maybe had that narrative for the first couple weeks, and then once he opened it up and allowed him to start throwing in the second half, guess who else that helped? Saquon Bark, that helped the run and everything, as Saquon wasn't really working. It's like, now, hopefully Pulo and Jalen are kind of on the same page. I don't know if they were talking, trying to roll it out, but it felt like he wasn't as confident in. Like, hey, we got a lot of money out there. We got a lot of money out there. We got a lot of money right here. We got a tight end with a lot of money. Lane Johnson getting hurt. Not great.
- [55:36]
Ty Schmidt
No.
- [55:37]
Pat McAfee
They're going to have to figure that out. Big piece missing, but it was nice to see him open it up again.
- [55:40]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, it was nice to see him doing it. Turning on when he needed to, just like he did in the Super Bowl. And then a former Eagle, now a Viking, Isaiah Rogers, had an unbelievable game against the Bengals. Started off with a pick six right here. We always talk about tips and overthrows. Made him pay for the overthrow. Took it back to the crib. Unbelievable. With the ball in his hands. Does some special, special things. And now, unbelievable. Punching the ball out of other guys. And had two force fumbles. This was his first one that he also picked up and took to the crib I saw on the Internet. I don't know how true it is, but a 99.9 rating or score with PFF which everybody and anybody who watched this game could see. He pretty much pitched the perfect game for defensive first Viking ever to score two touchdowns in the game.
- [56:22]
Pat McAfee
Hey, Isaiah Rogers story is a good one too. Absolutely happy for him. Man. Way to bounce back. Way to be a baller. Congrats on having a phenomenal game against the Bengals as they beat the hell out of the team from Cincinnati. It's a glorious overreaction Monday. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. I was in a speedo on Saturday. We'll talk about that next hour. I assume at some point Speedo wasn't, wasn't, wasn't the banana hammock wasn't holding anything.
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Ty Schmidt
Sure.
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Boston Connor
What?
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I just put that thing on about 40 minutes before that during a commercial break in a Porter john which was actually a poop crock pot. Yeah, how hot it was. I get up to the top I put I noticed that thing's completely oh fun time. See you next hour.
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Pat McAfee
Football is great. We can't wait to continue to chit chat about it. The college football weekend was spectacular. 1/2 of the hammer done Cowboys AP tone will give us a breakdown of that here in a matter of moments. The toxic tables here at Boston. Connor Loser. At Ty Schmidt, loser. Yeah, tough day. Toxic table. Now let's go to nine year NFL event. Host of everything. DB Good D and a bad D. Oh yeah. Winner. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius Day. All your teams.
- [59:12]
Darius J. Butler
Well, all but one.
- [59:13]
Pat McAfee
Oh, they're never gonna win again though.
- [59:14]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, all but one. Chargers, Eagles, my Colts. Yeah, all undefeated, but you know.
- [59:18]
Pat McAfee
And the Panthers, even for you Dolphins.
- [59:21]
Darius J. Butler
Chucky was up picking looked awesome. Saw his pays research.
- [59:24]
Pat McAfee
I was talking about the Carolina Panthers, but I understand that you were saying also the Florida Panthers.
- [59:30]
Darius J. Butler
That's not my team.
- [59:31]
Pat McAfee
Okay. To hell with that.
- [59:32]
Boston Connor
All right.
- [59:32]
Pat McAfee
I like that.
- [59:33]
Ty Schmidt
I got the Ravens tonight though.
- [59:34]
Darius J. Butler
No, not my squad.
- [59:35]
AP Tone
Tough look for you Falcons.
- [59:37]
Darius J. Butler
We do have a n. Never mind. I can't. I'm a Dolphin forever. I'm locked in forever. They I thought relegation, but I can't do it.
- [59:44]
Pat McAfee
Oh, relegation, Relegation. One of your teams.
- [59:47]
Ty Schmidt
Interesting.
- [59:48]
Darius J. Butler
You know you got different benefits when you live this life.
- [59:51]
Pat McAfee
Well, what I appreciate the way you have tried to promote others to live your life too. Darius J. Butler has five teams. He's pulling for it anymore. We got you. We got Yukon.
- [60:03]
Darius J. Butler
Only two.
- [60:04]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so six teams. He's got six teams any given weekend to be pulling for.
- [60:08]
AP Tone
Well, and the stupid, you know, merchants or whatever.
- [60:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Rude fan. Oscar.
- [60:14]
AP Tone
Oscar Zy. Yeah, we remember Michael Petri.
- [60:18]
Darius J. Butler
He's got so disrespectful.
- [60:20]
Pat McAfee
It's not about G1, dude. We got. You got 10 different. Are those guys all on different teams or the same?
- [60:26]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, Norris and they're different. These guys are making like 50, 60 million dollars. These are icons.
- [60:31]
Pat McAfee
Absolute dogs.
- [60:32]
Boston Connor
And we don't care. We never will.
- [60:37]
Pat McAfee
In fact, the point. Back to the point. Darius has 10 to 11 different things that can win on any given weekend that'll bring him joy. So what he has been trying to do is to tell others, hey, you need to pick up some more teams. You need to pick up some more things so you're not just boom, boom, boom. Because a team that You've never met a group of men that you have no idea who they are behind closed doors is controlling your happiness. Now, a lot of people say D, but that's disgusting. You're a part of the problem.
- [61:02]
Darius J. Butler
I get it.
- [61:03]
Pat McAfee
DBut comes back and says I want to enjoy sports. So there's a valid argument on both sides. Let's go to one half of the Hammer Cowboys at Bubba Gumpino. He is a Miami Dolphins fan. He shares that with you. You two very die hard Dolphins fans. But if you see the jersey he's wearing now, he thought he was going to get that last week. It came four days late, which we all appreciate and respect in the jersey ordering game nowadays. He has just picked up the Dolphins are just kind of. Okay, see Shout out to the U being back. Miami Hurricanes feel all the way back. That university was electric down there.
- [61:38]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I was supposed to have this jersey for that trip. Shout out fanatics appreciate it.
- [61:42]
Pat McAfee
What happened?
- [61:43]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, the U, the U is all the way back. They're electric to watch. This Bane guy up front on defense, every play is an absolute menace. And then Gators came back a little bit. Carson Beck didn't have his best game, but then they just got back to pounding the rock and just, just shoved it down the Gator's throat to win that game.
- [62:00]
Pat McAfee
Amazing, amazing university, I'll say. And that president Joey from the Bronx. This guy's got access to a lot of money, knows how to operate a lot of money and also is a very good leader. That entire place brand new seemingly and only getting newer, you know. Now the stadium is an interesting conversation because how far away it is and I assume in Miami it's not going to be easy to find real estate where you can potentially put that big of a thing. But everything that Miami has going on feels very aligned with their sports being good. Like very, very much so. So if you're a Miami Hurricanes fan who happens to be a Miami Dolphins fan and you're not like Darius Butler and pick up five other teams because you are a Dolphins fan over the last 30 years, just know that the Hurricanes feel like something that's sustainable for like the next foreseeable future. That's how you feel after leaving there, right, Gumpy?
- [62:45]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, especially after talking to Crystal Ball. I mean, he is the man. Saban said it. He, he's the perfect guy for that team. He is unbelievable. Great guy.
- [62:53]
Pat McAfee
Crystal ball Cam. This guy, Cam, he's. I don't know what his job is. I have no idea what he's a Legend, absolute legend. He's a weapon president. This Cam guy, he was the. I don't know if he's the Sid media guy, PR guy.
- [63:07]
AP Tone
He's one finest Ben, he had to get done guy.
- [63:10]
Pat McAfee
What do you need? You need a suit, you need to look like you're from Miami. I got you dude. No problem. Bang, bang, bang. How about that? Fucking unreal. Like his energy, this guy cam immaculate. But I don't think he's the only one there. I think everybody there, the president loves Miami. Cristobal, he's a boy. Loved the Hurricanes, loves Miami. This Cam guy assume echoes the sentiment. A lot of love Miami. Like they're all very proud. That's why when I was standing up there 32.9ft up in the sky or as the Europeans and I guess Olympics say 10 meter board. I say it's very evident that this, these students love this university. They do, they love being there. And now with the alumni being able to give money and support the school, if you love the school, let alone Dana White getting there, you know, down there now with more money being attracted tax free.
- [63:57]
AP Tone
I mean even that when it comes.
- [63:58]
Pat McAfee
To nil state income tax obviously a huge deal especially for these players that are getting paid a lot of money which they Carson Beck allegedly is. And everything about the president, president his whole entire life business is money. That's what he was in. What they are doing, everybody else should be doing.
- [64:13]
Darius J. Butler
That's the big thing right there. Joey from the Bronx, like as long as he's running the show and he can get them because look colleges, college football, it always has been big business, but it's big business now more than ever. So if Joey's moving around, you talked about alumni base and them showing up and giving money, all that is dope. But if Joey can move around and make sure we continue team getting these players.
- [64:34]
Pat McAfee
Boy, I'm telling you, I think it's all. I think it only just begun. Like I, I think this has only just begun. The last couple years it felt like it lost its luster and its connection and now they're like very much focused on the you being the you again and like pulling on that from all this Dwayne Johnson gave him. What like I don't know if it was this president or the previous one, but Dwayne Johnson donated whatever 100 million for a new like everybody that is down. I think Miami's in a good spot especially the ACC right now. Yeah, what is Clemson? You know, Florida State's real year to.
- [65:04]
Darius J. Butler
Year can't wait for that game.
- [65:05]
Pat McAfee
Two weeks.
- [65:06]
Darius J. Butler
Miami, Florida State, two weeks by week, then. Then, yeah.
- [65:10]
Ty Schmidt
Just got announced. It's 7:30 Saturday night in Georgia Tech.
- [65:14]
Pat McAfee
Right now with Hank King. Will they be able to supplement that going forward? We don't know, but we know this year they're going to be good. It's like Miami feels like it's a sustained operation right now. I should feel very good about. About them.
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AP Tone
Yeah, like Miami and Penn State. If you just look at those two schools, they're, they're gonna be the blueprint. Oregon, you can throw in there too. I mean, I, I wonder. USC's probably throwing a bunch of money around. It feels like that is now the blueprint. Anyone who's not operating as if, hey, this is now a money business. It is basically just a business. We don't have to treat this as if we did before, where it's the education and you know, football.
- [65:47]
Pat McAfee
It is now, by the way, Miami.
- [65:48]
Darius J. Butler
Education, top private institute.
- [65:51]
AP Tone
Penn State, very good, top tier. And that's only going to help those schools. You wonder if the better education is going to lead to those schools being better because they do have more money from alumni. But if, if every school isn't doing that, if you're in the SEC or Big Ten or anything and you don't have some sort of money guy in your building, whether it's an ad, whether.
- [66:09]
Pat McAfee
Say with real sway.
- [66:10]
AP Tone
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Whether an AD president, you know, a vice president, something like that, that like you will be left behind. And if you're one of those boosters, you better make sure your school knows that too.
- [66:20]
Pat McAfee
Go ahead, Ty.
- [66:21]
Ty Schmidt
Well, I was just gonna say like for them not being relevant, at least to the point, like when we were growing up, that they were where you could, you know, basically set your watch like, hey, this team might win a national championship. That's the game aside, like watching game day on Saturday, I was like, this campus is unbelievable. It is so nice. The weather is perfect. Like, so if you can get the football kind of starting to go in the right direction, it's like, why wouldn't you want to come here?
- [66:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Legit. And you think that as you're walking around that campus a lot, it's like, I don't know what I would have became with all this and how nice this is. Like, I don't know if I would have been able to maintain focus, but if I was just choosing a school to go to, it's like, why would you not come to a resort?
- [67:02]
Ty Schmidt
Not that Penn State isn't awesome. But if you went on a visit to Penn State in October and then went to Miami the following weekend, like, which way you think you're going to leave?
- [67:09]
Pat McAfee
Well, then people would say, well, the college atmosphere at Penn State is better than it is in Miami. It's like, I think they have house parties and down there they have an entire. They have entire off campus. And let me tell you, beautiful.
- [67:21]
AP Tone
Some nice house.
- [67:22]
Pat McAfee
Got scooters and skateboards everywhere. It was. It was.
- [67:26]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
- [67:26]
Pat McAfee
Felt like they're really living down there.
- [67:28]
AP Tone
See people blading or just.
- [67:30]
Pat McAfee
I didn't see any blades. I. I didn't leave campus really, though, so I didn't see any blades. A lot of these scooters.
- [67:35]
AP Tone
A lot of the scoots.
- [67:35]
Pat McAfee
A lot of scooters trapped so bad in Miami. I guess.
- [67:38]
AP Tone
So there's a lot of, like, lines and stuff.
- [67:40]
Pat McAfee
No, people like personalized scooters.
- [67:42]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah, Those are big.
- [67:43]
Pat McAfee
Now, DEZ showed up on his own. Scooter's in the area. Nice scooter, I bet. 15, 20, I thought. Especially with that rabbit. Yeah.
- [67:52]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [67:52]
Pat McAfee
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a. Well, I guess down in Miami, you would put it in cheetah mode, but for how long?
- [67:58]
AP Tone
Yeah. And are you getting pulled over?
- [68:00]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [68:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion Ryder cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. hawk.
- [68:10]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [68:12]
Pat McAfee
Walker. Hey. We just talked about a lot about down there in Miami, and I. I know that you saw me adjust myself with a camera very close on me. And I will say if I did. Didn't do that, aj, Whole show, literally whole thing. That thing was riding. That thing was riding right. Real rot. Real right there was the.
- [68:34]
AJ Hawk
Do we have any idea. Did you give a heads up to all the great people behind the scenes that are filming this? Hey, possibly like blur it out, maybe. Maybe give you a blur to. But if you did the blur, you have to do like a bigger. A fake blur all the way down your ankle or something.
- [68:47]
Pat McAfee
Bigger blur. Yeah. He need to blur the whole thing. No, this all came together together relatively quickly. I think we should. Everybody should kind of understand that. Friday night, DEZ hosted an incredible gathering for everybody. Got a chance to see his house. So sick. He has a hat right in the middle of his living room. His house is like a museum. Paintings everywhere. Like, very beautiful. It is des house, one of the nicest houses I've ever seen. Like, it is incredible. Right in the middle has a hat with a box around it. And then it says, the greatest catch I've ever made. And it's Desmond Howard. And obviously the question, what is this? Oh, it's Michael Jackson's hat. He threw it. My sophomore year of college, I went to a concert.
- [69:28]
Boston Connor
Wow.
- [69:28]
Pat McAfee
Threw it out into the crowd. Dez, I guess.
- [69:30]
Boston Connor
Of course, that's pretty sick.
- [69:32]
Pat McAfee
And he held onto it. It is.
- [69:34]
Boston Connor
That's pretty sick.
- [69:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was. It was very sick. But as we were doing it, chefs, obviously, they made some Jamaican food. It was. I'm telling you, it was great. It was. It was, I would say, the perfect event for whatever it was supposed to be. You know, like, everybody get crew coming, audio coming, makeup, like, every. And it was called, like, a flow through, so nobody felt obligated. Like, it was just very well done. I would say one of the camera people that had been there for a long time, blanking on his name 100% on me. He's on a jib away from us. He's not on the set. He is somewhere else. He's been there a long time, though. He basically brings up to me, like, you going off that high dive or whatever? And I'm like, I don't know. Is it, like, how close is it to the set? They're like, right. It's literally right next to the set. And I was like, could you get on camera? He goes, oh, yeah, we got a lot of cameras that could get over there. And then he even says, like, we'll never get an opportunity to do that again. So, like, this thing is right next to that. Just wanna let you know, camera. Just wanna let you know we'll never have this opportunity again. We can certainly get it on camera. It was like, okay, we should think about doing that. So then I talked to Red. Matt's his name at game day that night. I'm like, hey, is anybody going off? What's going on here? What's the situation? Then he said Jess was going off there, and I was like, sick. Okay, I won't do it then. I don't want to do it if Jess is doing it. And then I think Jess came up with the idea was like, well, last week he kind of challenged me. I'll challenge him to do it if he'll do it. I'm like, perfect, let's do that. So then whenever I see Jess up there, I'm thinking to myself, would be kind of cool if Jess just doesn't do this right now. Okay, Then if I was to do it later. Jess didn't do the field goal thing. Jess didn't do the top thing. But instead, Jess, just like a G, cuts a promo up there, puts that thing down, walks right off. Wasn't even crazy. Wasn't even a second thought. Walks right off of that thing. Nails it.
- [71:18]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [71:18]
Pat McAfee
Send it picture perfect in that entire thing. I'm like, damn. Like, jess, really, what do I do that is even close to winning sitting there? So then there was a speedo conversation that started happening.
- [71:29]
Boston Connor
Sure.
- [71:29]
Pat McAfee
A speedo conversation that was brewing, you know, a little bit before the show. I asked this Cam, gentlemen, I said, hey, what do the divers wear when they go off there? They wear a speedo, right? Yeah. I was like, can I get a speedo from the diving team? Because then when I drop that, it'll say Miami, you know? So then it's like, easy. This who I'm picking. Miami. So Cam tells me immediately, I'll. I'm looking at you. Okay. I don't know if we got any divers. I don't know if we got any divers. I'm like, no, they're like, big. Well, get the swim team. He goes, we only have a women's swim team. And I don't know.
- [72:01]
Boston Connor
Which is wild.
- [72:02]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if we. They're very good, I guess, but I don't know if we have. If the diver's gonna have that. He makes a couple calls, obviously, two phones. This guy Cam, always on, I think, always loves the hurricanes. He goes, the biggest we got is size 30 waist. I'm like, that's eighth grade for me, actually. Eighth grade, eighth grade for me. He goes, I told you, you're gonna be small. I don't know. So then Matt Garrett read during the show, goes, hey, we can certainly find a speedo somewhere, if that is still an option. And I just. Yeah, sure, talk back. Yeah, let's go ahead and check that. So then all of a sudden, about 45 minutes later, I get a. We have three different options of speedos. They're all black, though, so it won't really help with the debut, but if you want to wear it, cool. Brings it up. I think it was 34, maybe 30. 34, 30. Like, somewhere in that range. Inch closer. I'm. I'm a 37. I'm stuck in between 36 and 38. That's kind of where I dance. 38. You've seen me on TV with them. It looks a little bit ridiculous. There's a little bit of thing. 36. A little tight in the area. Look a little bit ridiculous. So with my fat ass, that's kind of how it is so 34. We get that thing. I look at it, I'm like, oh, I don't know. You know? But I don't know what the speed is supposed to be. I don't know. I don't know know what they're supposed to be. So I gotta go in a Porta John. Okay. Right behind the. The.
- [73:16]
AJ Hawk
During the. Like during a commercial break?
- [73:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, right before the last hour, I go into a Porta John. It is 190 degrees. Okay. I am in a poop. Crock, pot. Okay. And I got. My pants are all drenched because I'm sweating the entire day. So I had to peel these things off of me during a commercial break. Peel these things off me. Put them on top of the. The toilet paper, little thing.
- [73:35]
Boston Connor
Sure.
- [73:36]
Pat McAfee
Because there isn't like a. There's not a shelf in these border johns. So then I put this thing on. Boy, real tight.
- [73:41]
Ty Schmidt
Hold on. Did you leave underwear in her.
- [73:43]
Pat McAfee
What's that?
- [73:44]
Ty Schmidt
Did you leave your underwear that you.
- [73:46]
Boston Connor
Were wearing in the Porter John?
- [73:47]
Pat McAfee
No, put them back on.
- [73:48]
Boston Connor
Oh, you did.
- [73:49]
Pat McAfee
I put. Because they were stuck in my pants.
- [73:50]
AP Tone
Yeah.
- [73:51]
Boston Connor
Everything over.
- [73:51]
Pat McAfee
They were stuck in my pants.
- [73:53]
Darius J. Butler
Who had the Speedos packed already? Was it the other guy?
- [73:56]
Pat McAfee
What do you mean? It was the biggest.
- [74:01]
Ty Schmidt
One guy probably did have some.
- [74:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But then I put that thing on. It was really uncomfortable. Last hour, you probably see me fidgeting a little bit. I was so tired because I'd sweat so much at that point. Those fans that stood out there with us the entire time, absolute legends and icons. But then, yeah, as I'm running up there, I'm feeling that thing, you know, kind of not feel comfortable, but it's a Speedo. I don't know what it's supposed to feel like. This is my normal thing. And then when I unbutton my jeans at the top of that thing, I look down and because it's white pants, I could see it.
- [74:28]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, there's my dick right there.
- [74:30]
AP Tone
Oh, shit.
- [74:31]
Pat McAfee
That's exactly. That is exactly what I did. So now I'm like, oh, no. What do I do here? Because this thing is literally just shoved right over here. So I try to adjust myself. And you guys saw it. Yeah, I found a brick center, I think.
- [74:45]
AP Tone
Ball sacks.
- [74:47]
Pat McAfee
Everybody was having a good time with that. That was almost all of me. All of me. Almost saw all of you. That Sebastian.
- [74:58]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah.
- [74:59]
Pat McAfee
Great mascot.
- [75:00]
AP Tone
Was he talking or.
- [75:01]
Pat McAfee
No, no. No talking at all.
- [75:03]
AP Tone
Exactly.
- [75:03]
Pat McAfee
No. A lot of mocks. He came in afterwards. I'm shirtless in the production Room. Because that wasn't. Missed me ripping my shirt. David Allen, shout out to you, bro. You did make that a little bit more difficult than I thought it was going to be with those buttons. Kind of ripped that thing. Shout out to Cam. Getting me the sport coat and the pants the night before, obviously, so I could go. Real Miami Vicey. Yeah, it was a good time, man. It was fun. But, yeah, my balls were almost completely out there. I mean, and obviously kitten caboodle.
- [75:27]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [75:27]
Ty Schmidt
The whole thing, the heated poor.
- [75:30]
Pat McAfee
It was a lot further of a fall than I thought it was going to be.
- [75:33]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [75:34]
AJ Hawk
How was it right there? Was it like. Was it when you got up there? Was it okay? This a little. A little taller than I thought this would feel.
- [75:39]
Pat McAfee
Didn't look down. Really looked at students a lot looked out when I was doing the whole. Then they spell out C, A, N, E, S canes. But the Sebastian move is a lot of that. Didn't look down.
- [75:50]
Boston Connor
Down.
- [75:50]
Pat McAfee
Kind of had a little bit of a worrisome. When I put the microphone down.
- [75:53]
Boston Connor
Sure.
- [75:54]
Pat McAfee
And I, like, almost looked down. You look down, your. Your eyes are connected to your brain. There's almost a natural reaction of like, oh, what are we even thinking about doing? So for me, I gotta just go. So I didn't even look down. But midway through, I certainly thought to myself, wow, this is further than I thought it was gonna be. I'm still falling right now, you know, and I'm happy to talk to you. I know. No bruises. They told me if I cannonballed, there was a chance I would have blew my. My butthole.
- [76:20]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [76:26]
Pat McAfee
Especially if I'm sitting. Sitting that thing down. Was thinking about doing the backflip, I guess, because Mark Richt, head coach, formerly did backflips off that thing to wow up there. Rowdy up the student section or whatever. Thought about doing that because I have done that off top turnbuckle and things like that. But then if you ever rotate there, that's catastrophe.
- [76:43]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [76:43]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, break every bone in your face.
- [76:45]
Pat McAfee
That's certainly catastrophe. And right there, I didn't have a mic on. I said, coach Corso, this pencil is for you. Okay. And the reason why I did a pencil is because first of all, I thought it was sweet to honor Coach Corso like that. But also the thought of just dying up there was much less with the pencil.
- [77:01]
Boston Connor
So it was a good move.
- [77:02]
Pat McAfee
That's how it all came together. AJ and what a day. Then I get to my phone like 20 minutes later, you know, because I'm drenched in My phone and my shit's everywhere. And I'm like, man, I wonder how many people think I'm the worst human on earth for doing it, you know? Like, I. I was like, look at this. I thought there was going to be a lot. Pretty positive reaction. Very, very thankful for that. And then as the bus is heading to the fbo. The airport, to get back to Indy for Wrestle Palooza, I got a call from Coach Corso. And it's like, Coach Corso, he and I certainly got along friendly. Very much so. Would ask him questions. Would help, I think good relationship is how it be described. But I've only known him here the last couple years. You know, I have known him for 30 years like everybody else. 20 years for everybody else. So him calling me unprompted out of nowhere was awesome. And right behind me, there is our last show rundown of picks that we had at Ohio State. And I asked him to sign it with his tycoon pencil whenever he was done. And he says, now your turn, Pat. Like, literally, to me, it's like a. A pretty cool moment. And that call from him, I. I got emotional. It was a. It was a crazy day. And then Russell Palooza was happening in Indianapolis with WWE and ESPN coming together, and it's like, man, there's a lot of insane shit happening. I'm incredibly grateful and thankful and also pumped my balls didn't show. And biggest part, I think that's a big deal. You know what I mean, aj?
- [78:25]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, that's what. They were very worried. What?
- [78:27]
Boston Connor
What?
- [78:27]
AJ Hawk
That you would spread your legs, and that's when you're. You know, it would just. What, water would go up through your butt, through your mouth, and you would.
- [78:33]
Boston Connor
Just explode or what?
- [78:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I mean, maybe I didn't.
- [78:35]
AP Tone
No, no, it would probably.
- [78:36]
Pat McAfee
I don't know, because the one thing's connected to the thing, and then the.
- [78:40]
Boston Connor
Other things connected to the otter thing.
- [78:43]
Pat McAfee
Isn't there, like, a thing in there that's like 10 miles?
- [78:46]
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah.
- [78:48]
AP Tone
If it went through your butthole, probably more so than just come out your mouth.
- [78:52]
Ty Schmidt
No, it'd be like what they did on Jackass, where they just get all the stuff out of you.
- [78:56]
Pat McAfee
They're talking bruised feet.
- [78:58]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [78:58]
Pat McAfee
If I was to do that, I mean, all these things were being talked about, like, hey, this is. This. I watched a military. I think it was the Marines. Ooh. Ra. I think it was them jumping out of coppers, like, what you do with your. Your. So I just tried to try to mimic that. And. Yeah. Body Feels good.
- [79:13]
Darius J. Butler
So that was your first time jumping off something that, huh?
- [79:16]
Pat McAfee
No. So we jumped off pier in Pittsburgh. It was down on. What was that road Shadow barking. Yeah. Barking road. It was into a river, but it was always night. They would say, difference. That's 20ft. Oh, it's 40ft. You have no idea. And then all you would hope is it's a river so you don't hit anything. Pretty real. Obviously jumped off the steel cage at nxt. I've jumped off things before out of a plane. You know, I've done that, but it's. It's always just can't.
- [79:42]
AP Tone
Just do it.
- [79:42]
Pat McAfee
Can't look. Can't look. Just gotta go like, the pier. Couldn't see shit. Pitch black into a river. It's like this. Hindsight.
- [79:48]
Darius J. Butler
That's wild.
- [79:49]
Pat McAfee
Pretty terrible decision.
- [79:50]
Ty Schmidt
You're also. You're also not a huge, like, swim and water guy, you know, so it's like, that's. You know, I mean, I assume you went right down to the bottom pencil.
- [79:58]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I thought my ears were gonna explode.
- [80:00]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I. I imagine as I was.
- [80:02]
Pat McAfee
Going down on my. Way too low right now. Way too low. Kept going, kept going. Touch bottom also speedo right back to where it was, but this time, cheeks too.
- [80:10]
Boston Connor
Yep.
- [80:10]
AP Tone
Oh, yeah.
- [80:12]
Pat McAfee
And you were gas. I mean, you ran so far and climbed up, like, three flights there. Thank you. I got a text from Whitey, West Virginia legend, host of the old grad podcast. He said you just literally did a fireman work like a firefighter. You just did the firefighter super challenge.
- [80:26]
Boston Connor
You sprinted, then you did the talking the whole time.
- [80:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, it was. I'm very thankful I got to do it. Shout out to Miami. That was a lot of fun. I'm happy we made it. Go ahead. Now we just.
- [80:35]
Ty Schmidt
Yep, exactly.
- [80:36]
Pat McAfee
You know, one off the high. No, of your side.
- [80:38]
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah.
- [80:39]
Pat McAfee
Do I have to do it again? Did it.
- [80:41]
Boston Connor
No way.
- [80:41]
Ty Schmidt
I did it.
- [80:42]
Pat McAfee
We're gonna do an Olympic thing someday. They'll have that high dive, and I'll be like, that was so much fun when I got to do it.
- [80:46]
AP Tone
Don't want to copy it.
- [80:46]
Boston Connor
You've already done.
- [80:47]
Pat McAfee
Well, it's not gonna be tan lines. Everybody needs to relax. I fell asleep in Puerto Rico.
- [80:51]
Boston Connor
What are you gonna do?
- [80:52]
Ty Schmidt
I thought they look good.
- [80:53]
Pat McAfee
I fell asleep in Puerto Rico. You know, that's all right. That was day one. I got down there.
- [80:58]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [80:58]
Pat McAfee
You should have seen what that felt like. Day two down there, up here. It is crazy that I guess, like, my whole body could be that tame. If I just fell asleep in Puerto Rico for three to four hours.
- [81:07]
Boston Connor
Yeah, there you go.
- [81:08]
Pat McAfee
Because I had those shorts on, you know, I had sunglasses on with a hat up here, a towel over my body. Just kind of passed out maybe on some vitamins. And I'll tell you, you saw where I didn't cover myself. Yeah, still there. That's what, a month and a half ago?
- [81:22]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [81:23]
Pat McAfee
Two months ago. I don't want to think about the worries of that.
- [81:27]
Ty Schmidt
Say some plays.
- [81:28]
Boston Connor
No games.
- [81:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen. We made them wait through that entire thing. We apologize. He will be on the Monday Night Football coverage, I do believe, this evening. He's an ESPN pundit. He's an Emmy award winner. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager.
- [81:39]
AP Tone
Yes.
- [81:41]
Pat McAfee
Whoa. Where are you at?
- [81:42]
Darius J. Butler
The hell?
- [81:43]
Peter Schrager
I'm in Baltimore. I'm in Baltimore, my friend. This is the Baltimore skyline behind me. I found this on Google Images.
- [81:49]
Pat McAfee
I like that. Good play. Pay homage to the Baltimore folks. Have you been down to Jimmy's Famous Seafood? I don't think it's in this shot, but it should be.
- [81:57]
Peter Schrager
It is not. Jimmy has been very good to me and my family in the past. We get get some packages some time to time.
- [82:02]
Boston Connor
Whenever.
- [82:02]
Peter Schrager
You talk positively about the Ravens, but we have not been there yet. I love Jimmy Seafood, but I also love being in Baltimore. I just took a walk around the Inner harbor this morning. Fresh air. Beautiful. We got a great one tonight.
- [82:14]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you say you talk positive about Baltimore. Jimmy's famous will take care of you tonight. Are you talking positive about the Baltimore Ravens? How do you feel about this evening's game?
- [82:23]
Peter Schrager
Yeah, this evening's game is a really good one. It's a great one that we have in week three on Monday night. But really, it's between two teams that silenced a lot of people after week one. And I look at this one, to me, if you're Lamar Jackson, one of the best Monday Night Football quarterbacks of all time, he's never thrown an interception on Monday night football. He's 7 and 2. He's got this great record. He's also 24 and 2 against the NFC. Nothing is going to be accomplished tonight by beating the Detroit Lions in week three. It's not like you're going to look at your resume and say, say, well, he didn't do this. He didn't do this. He didn't do this. But he beat the lions in Week 3 of the 2025 season. That said, when you're looking at the what the Bills are doing up there in the AFC east and you're looking to hold serve and you know how important home field is in these playoffs. I think this game does matter in the big picture and I also think that they're looking to make a statement on national TV after giving up that loss in the way the defense played against Buffalo in Week one.
- [83:15]
Pat McAfee
Go ahead.
- [83:15]
AJ Hawk
AJ Triggs, what about this Detroit Lions team? I believe you came on this program and said you, you think there's a chance that they do not make the playoffs this year. If I'm not mistaken, what do you think's on the line for them tonight and how do you think they're going to look?
- [83:27]
Peter Schrager
Yeah, I went from being like Mr. Lyons, everyone loving me in Detroit because I was on this ride until now being public enemy number one. The truth of the matter was I thought the NFC was loaded at the top and I wasn't sure how this team would respond to the loss of Ben Johnson and obviously Aaron Glenn. Well, week one, I'm not saying I look like a genius, but there were serious questions. Week two, they shut me up and they shut a lot of pundits up. And that offense looked awesome and it looked like the Ben Johnson offense. That said, if they go out there tonight and they don't do that and now we're one and two, you're in a bit of a hole. What they got in their favor though was that the Brown silenced the packers last night. And of course we know that the Vikings have a tough trip to Dublin and they're going to have to go up against the Steelers. Like this might be one of those years where it's an 18 week season and it's going to come down to the final week. I didn't have the Lions in the playoffs at the start of the season. If they play like they did last week against Chicago, I look like an idiot come January.
- [84:19]
Pat McAfee
Absolutely. A lot of us will for a lot of the things we say throughout the entirety of an NFL season. Last year it came down to the last week, obviously between the Vikings and the Lions to decide who was number one in the NFC or who was going to get fifth place in the nfc, which almost changed the rule because of how great that NFC north is. Excited to see what Lions team we have tonight. You talked about the packers losing to the Brown. This Browns defense may be generational in this entire thing. Whenever it's said and done, what they're able to do at home, plus what they're able to do to everybody. This packers team was hottest team in the NFL. We thought maybe packers might go on and win it all because of who they were at the beginning of the season. Micah was the perfect little kickstart to an entire operation of greatness. And then they go and have to deal with this. How do you feel about the Browns and what do you think the Browns look like for the rest of the year?
- [85:05]
Peter Schrager
Here's the other part of it. Packers didn't play since Thursday. So the packers had like 10 days to prepare. They're riding high. There's talk of undefeated season and then they commit 14 penalties. 14 penalties looked absolutely out of sorts. And that's a credit to this Cleveland defense. I mean if you watch the Browns, it's basically if the, if the offense doesn't screw things up, they're going to be in every game. Last week the offense screwed things up. There were turnovers galore and then the Ravens were able to capitalize late in the that score got out of control. But if you look at weeks one and three like this Browns defense, what they did to Joe Burrow in week one, I mean Joe Burrow, they had seven yards in the second half of week one. And then to see this offense that was lighting it up the first two weeks just go completely silent sudden and Mason Graham like rookie all over the place. And then on offense Judkins gets in the game 94 yards. I if the Browns don't screw it up on offense, they're going to be in every single game this season and they're going to be a pain in the ass to play because that defense is so good.
- [86:04]
Pat McAfee
Nightmare for the AFC North. Is Cleveland Bron just late in the season going to have to get. Who do you have to get through the bronze? Are they going to make the playoffs? No. All right. Steelers should win that one. Steelers fans are like, excuse me, do you know who they paid 40 million a year to on defensive side of that ball? He's a game record. He will take over whenever he wants. And let alone them blocking a kick, let's Clayton special teams and then going on to hit another kick. It's like is there a couple different phases that are elite for the Cleveland Browns right now and then are they going to be able to figure out how to make that offense? Is it the future time or is Joey Flacco just going to be the guy that rides the Browns to the playoffs for another year? Now let's talk about a team that maybe had a little bit of success, a little bit of an upside. Also a big time contract to a head Coach, Go ahead. D. Buch.
- [86:51]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. Talk about the future of Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams. They look good against the Dallas Cowboys. Now what's your thoughts on that? Is it more the Cowboys just absolutely stinking on defense or maybe is Caleb Williams possibly turning a corner here with Ben Johnson?
- [87:05]
Peter Schrager
I think it's a combination of both. I think the Cowboys are horrendous on defense right now and they figure their stuff out. But let's not take anything away from Caleb and from Ben Johnson. Look, that team bought in on Ben Johnson's entire summer of dewiring them and then rewiring them into what he wanted to them to be. In the first two weeks it didn't look like that was going to be anything and yet they stayed committed to it and it all came to fruition yesterday. I love the fact that you saw D.J. moore in the backfield three or four times. I love the fact that they ran that weird looking flea flicker. I love the fact that they gave up zero sacks. That means that this team stuck with themselves and they didn't come unraveled after that Week 2 loss to Detroit. It was so personal with Ben Johnson going back to Detroit. I think we underestimate, underestimated how much the Lions wanted to beat him and how much that Lions team was, was hearing the noise after that week one loss to the packers to come out Week three with Brady and Burkhardt on the call, national audience, and to be the ones to actually light it up and do it with the way that the Lions played last year. I mean, Caleb looked great yesterday. Great. And there was some signs of greatness in those first two weeks. You have to feel energized as a Bears fan at least. This thing is not hopeless. Dallas and they're going to be on the right track. They committed to Ben Johnson's offense and it proved to be working just fine once they got things going.
- [88:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the Dallas Cowboys, obviously there's a different conversation happening for them and that's rude because maybe the Chicago Bears team did find it and they're actually a good team. Caleb Williams had his best day on the field in the locker room. He always messed up the first ever win for the head coach thing. Almost missed him with the throw and.
- [88:36]
Boston Connor
Called it the wrong home win.
- [88:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I mean it was just, it was a whole thing. But hey, didn't know he was focused on the game.
- [88:42]
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
- [88:42]
Pat McAfee
Wasn't focused on celebrations with Ben Johnson. Also like the fact that Ben Johnson's thing is good, better, best, never let it rest till Your good is better and your better is best. Because I've been actually saying that my entire life.
- [88:52]
Boston Connor
Really?
- [88:53]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [88:54]
Peter Schrager
Is that like a high school? I never heard that. And he. He rattled that thing off and I was like, oh, I like that.
- [88:58]
Pat McAfee
I'm gonna write that down.
- [88:59]
Peter Schrager
But you knew that one.
- [89:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I guess I would assume somebody said that one time around me. And I was like, yup. Bars.
- [89:06]
AP Tone
Who said that?
- [89:06]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I don't know who said it. And I think I've always just said it because. Because it's just, you know, it's a lot. But then if you listen to it, it's like, oh, that's pretty good little saying. And I love that Ben Johnson is just taking that to the entire team. I like that any coach is kind of using that as their rally cry. And if they nail it in there, let's go.
- [89:21]
Darius J. Butler
Hell, yeah. He's an absolute maniac. You know what? I may be in the minority. I like Caleb's postgame. He, man, he was hyped. He was excited. First home win, don't give him an easy pass.
- [89:31]
Pat McAfee
Oh, you're right.
- [89:33]
Ty Schmidt
He was impersonating flea flicker. That the toss.
- [89:36]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [89:36]
AP Tone
And we remember from last year. Yeah, he's a big, hip, hip, hooray guy, so, you know, you gotta let him kind of grow with the celebration.
- [89:43]
Pat McAfee
First victory at all and, you know, good little touch there. I appreciate it. Looked like they got along too, which I think is a big conversation. You know, Caleb and Ben getting along. Showing respect, I think is good. Maybe the Bears are already up and up. Congrats. Congrats, Ben. Let's talk about maybe on Don and Don. Go ahead, Tone.
- [89:59]
Ty Schmidt
Yep, the Bears looked really, really good against Cowboys. You know who else looked really, really good against Cowboys? Russell Wilson. And then he looked like shit in weeks one and three. So when are we going? When are. When are we in your New York Giants going to Jackson? Dark strikes. Because this. This was not it last night. I mean, there was. There was many interceptions. There was balls into the 18th row. There was balls into the locker room. How do you feel about your Giants in the quarterback position?
- [90:23]
Peter Schrager
You know, the interesting thing is the offensive line actually played pretty well yesterday. So this was. The big excuse was, well, the offensive line sucks. Anybody behind that offensive line is going to struggle. Offensive line, they did their job. I know Andrew Thomas only played about 25 snaps, but he and Marcus Meebo kept that defensive line from Russ. It was unfortunate that they couldn't score there in the red zone at the end. And those four Passes were what they were. There's never going to be a good time to put Jackson Darton, you and Adam Schefter, you guys went over the schedule in the first hour of this show. There's not going to be an opportune time where, hey, this makes sense. This is the. This is the moment. This is the window what I took away from last night's broadcast, and we talked so much last week about the value of a production meeting. Well, Chris Collinsworth was absolutely glowing about how the Giants are talking about Jackson dart behind the scenes that they go into the facility and he's like, ho, ho. The way they're talking about this, this.
- [91:18]
Pat McAfee
Dart, you know it.
- [91:20]
Peter Schrager
So they obviously know internally that dart is trending upwards. The question is, when do you want to throw them into the mix? I look at that schedule, there's not going to be a great time. So this is going to be Brian Dable, and it's going to be his decision. I think Russ has played fine. I think, obviously, if you look at what happened last night, they didn't get the plays they needed in the red zone, but they're moving the ball up and down the field and scatter. Boo looked like he can play. The truth of the matter is they're going to to have to put dart in at some point if they continue to lose, just to salvage this fan base. And that's not a knock on Russ. The fan base wants to see him. And if you listen to Collinsworth last night, they're absolutely giddy in that building over what they're seeing from Jackson dart in practice. So at this point, you're owing three. I know it's not ideal to play the Chargers next week in that defense, which is unbelievable, but it might never be ideal. And in the NFL, there's a lot of good defenses. So let's roll the dice.
- [92:08]
Pat McAfee
Well, you go down to New Orleans, too, maybe with a game of experience and maybe be able to pick up one that you might be able to win down the south, too. Let that heat hit you a little bit. Like your Jackson dart crowd. You talk about salvaging the fan base. Booze for us, cheers for Jackson.
- [92:22]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [92:22]
Pat McAfee
I mean, that is just like the fans are almost like, well, what do we even draft the guy for? You know, and this isn't the first time this has happened. This has certainly been on multiple occasions where the fans go, hey, we're done with this guy. We would like to see this guy. This is what we did. Will Day ball and Shane say, all right, let's go with it. I'm excited. Guys iced out every week.
- [92:44]
Peter Schrager
They put him in a few times, Pat, and it's basically like Jackson darts in, then he lowers his shoulder and gets absolutely crushed by a defensive lineman. You're like, no, no, that's, that's not what we. That's. Let's, let's let him throw the ball.
- [92:54]
Pat McAfee
You were happy he's on.
- [92:55]
Peter Schrager
Yes, but not we like that. But I don't, I don't need him as a battering ram with his head down like running into a 350 pound guy. I would also add had. The Giants are the only team in football that has a kicker be, you know, hurting pre game two years in a row. And this thing was crazy, crazy. And this happened last year against Washington. So you get Art Stapleton tweeting that, hey, wait, in pregame warm ups, Graham Gano's hurt.
- [93:18]
Boston Connor
They.
- [93:18]
Peter Schrager
They're gonna have to go to, you know, Jamie Gillen again and the Scottish hammer is going to have to kick and it's blocked right away. And that kick would have been blocked.
- [93:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, this is, this is like bad.
- [93:27]
Peter Schrager
News bear stuff when it happens year after year after year after year. And that's what the Giants fans are booing about. Like what? When we've got a league where there's, you know, guys kicking 64 yard field goals in their sleep, the Giants can't even, you know, have a kicker dressed. It's understandable to be frustrated on national TV when that's the case.
- [93:43]
Pat McAfee
I think that's what Day Ball said. And if you watched Bruce Brown's Twitter account last night as I was riding alongside the Giants.
- [93:49]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [93:49]
Pat McAfee
Remember I picked Bruce Brown and the points with the Giants, you know, why not here? I just watched what they did with the Cowboys. Cowboys, that was a lot closer. They're 0 and 2, but, you know.
- [93:58]
Boston Connor
Yeah, exactly.
- [93:59]
Pat McAfee
You know, they kind of go another way which everybody spends it in their fan base. Bruce tweeted immediately, not gonna be able to win this game without kicker.
- [94:06]
Boston Connor
No chance. No chance.
- [94:08]
AJ Hawk
Over before it starts over. During the defensive introductions.
- [94:12]
Pat McAfee
Unbelievable. I don't know what happened to Graham. He was able to kick in the second half. 25 yarder.
- [94:17]
Peter Schrager
And he's. He's wailing in pain and it's like.
- [94:19]
Pat McAfee
What is going on right now. We hope he's okay though, obviously, Shregs. Yeah, we do. Yeah, you do, Shregs. You hope he's okay and we. Great kicker. You hope he's okay. Yeah, you hope he gets healthy and Shregs Obviously, his first feeling was, man, I hope he gets healthy for everything he's done for the Giants. When we stunk, Graham Gano is really the only good player we had.
- [94:42]
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
- [94:42]
Pat McAfee
For a while, but it'd be nice if this guy could make it to a game.
- [94:46]
Boston Connor
I didn't say that.
- [94:48]
Pat McAfee
Yes, you did. Yes, you did. All right, on the other side. Go ahead, Khan.
- [94:51]
AP Tone
Yeah. Strikes. The Chiefs, not really a great showing for them either. Obviously they won the game, get their first one of the year. But we were talking earlier about that schedule you mentioned. I'm now blanking on it. That has the murderers row. The Giants, though, and the Chiefs also do not have an easy schedule coming up. They go Ravens, Jags, Lions, Raiders, commanders. Bunch of tough games. That's about three and five, maybe four and four. And in there, you know, Rasheed Rice gets back. Are we relying on Rasheed Rice as people who have to watch the Chiefs to make them look good? Because it's looked awful. And what's going on with Kelsey? Why is this, you know, connection that him and Mahomes have not going well? And then of course, him and Andy Reid just kind of getting into a. Not as big of a deal because they've done this before before. But why doesn't it look good for Kansas City whatsoever?
- [95:44]
Peter Schrager
Yeah, they don't have the weapons right now. I think that's fair to say. I mean, Spags, his defense showed up last night and, you know, they. They did their job. But, gosh, you're. You're watching these long 15 play, 16 play drives, settling for field goals. That's not the Chiefs.
- [95:58]
Pat McAfee
We.
- [95:59]
Peter Schrager
We grew to know and, and really to appreciate as a team that's in primetime every single night now. This is a squad that gets. Gets back two very important people in Rasheed Rice and Xavier Worthy. And you'd like to think, you know, Taekwond Thornton making those two catches and having the third that was ruled an incomplete but was an absolutely incredible attempt. They now have three options and Hollywood Brown. And you don't have to rely on Kelsey and Noah Gray so much underneath. But the offense isn't what it was. And I think the Chiefs would tell you that it's not ideal. I think what's interesting is they let DeAndre hop Hopkins walk. It's interesting because I think we knew they were going to have issues. They got Hopkins last year. He loved being a Chief. They go the distance and they didn't sign him back. He's now in Baltimore making incredible plays, looking like the hall of Famer that he might be. So I would say just hang tight, hold serve, and when you get Worthy and Rice back, let's. Let's judge the offense there. I mean, this is their best wide receiver. They lost a suspension a week before the season and then their 1A he goes down three plays into the NFL season. So. So hang tight there. I don't think a lot of teams would be able to look as good as they usually would without their top two receiving options on the field.
- [97:06]
Pat McAfee
What an incredible, incredible play here by Patrick Mahomes after a horrendous play. That was the second time he throwing it backwards. But go ahead and making a tackle and stripping the ball at the same time. I don't know. Carrie K is a hell of a play there by Patrick Mahomes. But I think the reason why we all wonder if they're gonna be okay because it doesn't look good like last year. It didn't look good for a long time. They were winning. Now it's like, are they still winning, winning? Are they still gonna be able to win like that? And then bringing back their two weapons. I hope that's the case because I think the Chiefs is still the Chiefs until I see that the Chiefs isn't the Chiefs. Watch them last night though. I thought to myself a lot of different times, doesn't feel like the Chiefs. Still the Chiefs. But I believe.
- [97:40]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Do you?
- [97:40]
Pat McAfee
I believe.
- [97:41]
Boston Connor
Did you pick the stinky Giants cover?
- [97:43]
Pat McAfee
We're doing spreads. Don't be an amateur. Yeah, okay.
- [97:46]
AP Tone
What is this, bush league?
- [97:47]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [97:48]
AP Tone
They would have covered with the kicker debuts. Don't you forget about that.
- [97:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Cuz Graham Gano hurts his groin. Squad point.
- [97:54]
Boston Connor
Yes, Good point.
- [97:56]
Darius J. Butler
Russ straight off. 450.
- [97:58]
Pat McAfee
I guess Russ threw the ball off the uprights. Fourth down, fourth quarter.
- [98:04]
Boston Connor
Wow.
- [98:04]
Pat McAfee
Last hope. That's guys going down swinging.
- [98:07]
Boston Connor
Your first down throw.
- [98:08]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [98:09]
AP Tone
Part of the first 14.
- [98:12]
Darius J. Butler
The first down throw into the tunnel.
- [98:13]
Pat McAfee
Was that's 20 probably from everybody that's playing on Friday right there. That's 20 from everybody that's playing normally you're throwing from the 20. You did it from the 15 just as good. I think that's a no doubter that that hit the crossbar because every once in a while there is a little bit of a decision because did it hit the back part that's kind of going. Did it hit the upright or did it hit the crossbar? Feels like that one did hit the underside and kind of skip under there. Remember you're throwing that to the crossbar Remember, there's nobody going there. But that is where you're throwing it.
- [98:41]
Darius J. Butler
To fourth to go.
- [98:43]
AP Tone
I'm sick of this Giants gimmick.
- [98:45]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [98:46]
AP Tone
I'm done with it. It sucks. We've been watching Poopy Giants primetime football for what it feels like 10 years. It stinks. It should be the team and the Jets, I guess they should play at one o' clock only. I get it. These, they have these massive markets and on Saturdays. Yeah, on Saturdays, boom. There's money involved and all that stuff. The jets and Giants should not be allowed to play primetime football for the rest of time until something good happens for him.
- [99:14]
Pat McAfee
Cw.
- [99:15]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah, throw them on the C dub.
- [99:17]
AP Tone
I love that idea. The, the, the teams of the cw.
- [99:20]
Boston Connor
The Big Apple.
- [99:21]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. And they would get big numbers because everybody in New York would watch numbers. And then the rest of us have no idea where that is.
- [99:26]
AP Tone
Yeah. And then those teams can just slowly drift away. And you know what we do? We put them both on boats and then they go to London. They become the London London teams.
- [99:34]
Pat McAfee
And we reached cw.
- [99:35]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [99:36]
Pat McAfee
And then the NFL could tell cw, congrats. You're the international team's home base here in the United States of America. CW's pulling New Jersey, New York, Tri state area in there. They're doing big numbers in us.
- [99:49]
Boston Connor
We don't have to watch.
- [99:51]
AP Tone
Becomes the team of New York, baby. The real team of New York.
- [99:55]
Pat McAfee
Get down. Get on it. Okay, last question. We know you have have to go to work. We apologize. Shre. Go ahead. I like this.
- [100:03]
Ty Schmidt
Shrek's early on. The Colts have kind of been the talk of the NFL. Hey, this might be the best team in the league. They're going to win the Super Bowl. After yesterday, I think it's maybe safe to say the. The Texans may stink. They. It just is what it is.
- [100:16]
Boston Connor
Unfortunately.
- [100:17]
Ty Schmidt
They may stink their own three. The Jags, on the other hand, I think we're still kind of curious about what they can do. Liam Cohen and you know, know Trevor Lawrence. Are these guys right for each other? Do they like each other? Do they get along? Can he get Trevor to the next step early on here with them at 2 and 1? Do you think that the Jags could, you know, potentially go on a little run at the end of the year? And then on the flip side, do the Vikings or I mean, do the Texans stink?
- [100:41]
Peter Schrager
Well, I would say neither C.J. stroud nor Trevor Lawrence would have signed up for their first three weeks. The way they have gone. Neither one has played well. The Brian Thomas as Trevor Lawrence connection doesn't look to be like it was last year. And Travis Hunter is barely making an impact on either side of the ball because some weeks he's playing corner and a little bit of receiver, some weeks he's playing receiver and a little bit of a corner hasn't really looked like the value of a number two overall pick yet. And that said, they've got two wins. The locker room scenes have been electric afterwards. Shot Khan has basically proclaimed love to Liam Cohen after two different wins.
- [101:16]
Boston Connor
Forever room.
- [101:17]
Peter Schrager
And they're, they're going for it like we're doing it. So you look at the standing, that's it. Houston made a very interesting change over the off season. Now we know trading Laramie Tunzel was a head scratcher for those who are like, well this game, this team is a squad that went to the divisional round two two years in a row. Why would you trade your best lineman? But to get rid of Bobby Slowik, who in hindsight now was with CJ Stroud as a rookie as his offensive coordinator was with Stroud as a second year player got him to the division around. That is a team that's like we're one step away. We need to pull the ripcord out and we're going to go and we're going to hire someone else. Now Nick Kaylee is really respected around the league and is a very, very like high, I guess you'd say highly valued resource to a lot of people who have worked with him. I'm not knocking him yet. I'm just saying this connection hasn't looked good. Nick Chubb is suddenly the number one back and obviously you're wondering, well, Nick Chubb hasn't been that guy in two years coming off major injuries. Can he do it? And Nico Collins played great, but where else are we getting offense from on this team? So I would have serious concerns if I am the Houston Texans that the offense has just looked so inept through three weeks when last year they were knocking on the doorstep a couple times the last two seasons being in the final four of the afc.
- [102:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they're saying he's CJ Strouch.
- [102:37]
Boston Connor
What?
- [102:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. CH at the end instead of D. Geez.
- [102:40]
AP Tone
Like Grouch.
- [102:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they're saying CJ Stroh. No, that's what they're saying. They're saying CJ Str. It's only his third year. I think it's.
- [102:51]
AP Tone
Well, I think that's why I saw Michael Kid Gilchrist. I saw a lot of NBA memes with one year. Good play.
- [102:57]
Boston Connor
Hey, cj, that's not fair.
- [102:58]
Pat McAfee
Come on, cj. Still in there.
- [103:00]
Darius J. Butler
Jamal. Murray. Murray.
- [103:02]
Boston Connor
Good player.
- [103:03]
Pat McAfee
Oh, no, the look.
- [103:05]
Darius J. Butler
You know, the look alikes.
- [103:06]
Boston Connor
Where.
- [103:06]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah.
- [103:06]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
- [103:07]
Ty Schmidt
The. The guy with the braids and CJ jersey. That needs to stop right now, okay? That's not him. People are saying he's basically turned into, you know, a 45 year old, you know, sack of shite.
- [103:18]
Pat McAfee
Imp imposter. Did you. Did you see the Bieber imposter over there in Vegas?
- [103:22]
Darius J. Butler
Yes.
- [103:23]
Boston Connor
That.
- [103:23]
Ty Schmidt
That was all.
- [103:24]
AJ Hawk
People should have figured that one out.
- [103:25]
Boston Connor
I. I don't know.
- [103:26]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. I think I was pretty good.
- [103:29]
AJ Hawk
I do. I think we do know.
- [103:30]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so let's say you're with us. Okay? Let's say we're doing a boys trip to Vegas. Shregs is there Wheeling.
- [103:35]
Boston Connor
Dylan. Yeah.
- [103:36]
Pat McAfee
We're having a good time. This thing pops up on the stage 2am you don't think we're thinking it's him? Yeah. You know, immediately I don't think anybody was questioning.
- [103:47]
Boston Connor
I like my Peaches out of Georgia. Yeah.
- [103:49]
Pat McAfee
Let's go. Yes, you do.
- [103:51]
Boston Connor
That is exactly what we.
- [103:52]
Pat McAfee
Nobody said anything from the new album. That's crazy.
- [103:55]
AP Tone
Yeah, exactly.
- [103:56]
Pat McAfee
I like that. Daisies okay. Yeah, me too. Yeah. That song's really good. What's it sound like? What's it sound like?
- [104:01]
AJ Hawk
You sing it.
- [104:03]
Boston Connor
Js.
- [104:03]
Peter Schrager
I'm not going to go there.
- [104:04]
AP Tone
Come on, dude.
- [104:05]
Pat McAfee
No, you're kind of feeling it. I don't know the words. Yeah. Oh, you don't know the words. Okay, see, that's the problem. We all need to start learning new stuff. Support beams through all of his different stages. Ain't that right, Foxy? Tik Tok likes the new album. I know that for sure, but I don't know that matters. Yes. Hey, babes. Keep doing it, dude.
- [104:19]
AP Tone
Baby, like.
- [104:21]
Pat McAfee
All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, Shregs. Have fun tonight, buddy.
- [104:24]
Peter Schrager
Hey, I just want to say, you were talking about the dive, dude. Thank you for making sports fun. Thank you for being electric. Thank you for remembering. This is supposed to be fun and happy. You bring joy, dude. We so appreciate it.
- [104:35]
Pat McAfee
You're the man. That is very kind of you to say. You do the same. Ladies and gentlemen, Emmy award winner, Peter Schrager. I mean, that was true.
- [104:47]
AJ Hawk
Sports are fun. Sports should be fun.
- [104:48]
Boston Connor
You're right.
- [104:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What do we do this for?
- [104:51]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [104:52]
Pat McAfee
Good times. Competition.
- [104:54]
Boston Connor
Hell, yeah. Well, good.
- [104:55]
Pat McAfee
Kicking somebody's ass.
- [104:56]
Boston Connor
That's right.
- [104:57]
Pat McAfee
You know.
- [104:57]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [104:58]
Pat McAfee
That's what we like doing. I also like everybody coming together. 1. Cause felt like that down in Miami. Everybody was in the same direction. Everybody president all the way down. A student just got on campus. Two friend of student from Maine who's on campus who misses kick twice for 500 grand for the boys.
- [105:13]
Boston Connor
Good kick.
- [105:14]
Pat McAfee
First one had a little thump. Second one good thump. Never had the trajectory. But I like the change that he made. Could tell he was an athlete. Could tell he was athletic because he changed the trajectory a little bit for the second one. That's the first one. I thought he was gonna bank that in.
- [105:27]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [105:27]
Pat McAfee
As that thing was flying off the wall, I'm like, oh, fuck, I gotta get this one. That's literally all I'm thinking about the entire time. And then for him to hit the second one after the chain the way he did. Obviously gave a little bit of a thrill. But 500000 for the boy. As soon as I heard this is for the whole. I'm like, I like what we're doing here for the boys. And you let him down. So now he's gonna get talked by the boys forever. So that's good too for the boys. So everything was a win win there. Happy it happened. Very thankful for Miami. Miami gets huge win. That caps off big storyline from the weekend. Tone.
- [105:55]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Let's start down there. Where the game day was in Miami. Miami wins 26 to 7. And the defense, defense and the run game was the story of the night. Hembo sent in in the stats and you're seeing them right there. Florida was over 13 on third down for 14 total yards. Lagway had 12 completions which toted totaled minus seven air yards. It was just the. The score was not as bad as it should have been. 267 is what it ended. But it was closer than that on the scoreboard for a lot of it. Miami just dominated in the trenches all night long. It was huge win for them. 26 7. 6 to 7 there.
- [106:28]
Pat McAfee
It feels like the used back.
- [106:29]
Boston Connor
Yes, it does.
- [106:30]
Pat McAfee
Feels like they use. I think athletes everywhere. The vibes, you know, everything.
- [106:35]
Ty Schmidt
The trenches are just.
- [106:36]
Boston Connor
They.
- [106:36]
Ty Schmidt
They just dominate. Michael Irving on the siren.
- [106:39]
Darius J. Butler
Honestly, he didn't lie.
- [106:40]
Pat McAfee
Almost cranked that. He said he was gonna try to break that thing. He certainly did. And I think he did the exact movement in his video. But he didn't have it. That's being able to. Something just happened. That's being able to put yourself in a situation.
- [106:52]
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
- [106:53]
Pat McAfee
The reason why the playmaker was so good is because he was able to visualize the games before they even happened. So the big time catches, the big time plays we've seen, that's not the first time those has happened. They've happened in his brain because we saw him do this exact thing in his office, it looks like where he does all his. And he was able to get that in there and it's alive down there in Coral Gables. I love that Miami team. And Florida now has a lot of questions about what they're going to do going forward. Go ahead.
- [107:17]
Ty Schmidt
Another team we love. Let's go from Florida up to Oklahoma where they hosted Auburn. The final score here was 2417. The story of this one, kind of similar to the Oklahoma Mission game is where it's. It's John Matier and Matier does enough and the offense does enough. And then that Oklahoma defense, they had nine sacks on Jackson Arnold.
- [107:36]
Boston Connor
The.
- [107:36]
Ty Schmidt
The Oklahoma D line just feasted all day long and the Matier makes enough plays with his arms and legs to get the 2417 win and cover on.
- [107:44]
Pat McAfee
Was that a hideout? That first touchdown, Is that what we just saw?
- [107:46]
AP Tone
Yeah. Yes. Yeah.
- [107:47]
Ty Schmidt
That was the one that the SEC came out.
- [107:50]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [107:50]
Ty Schmidt
They put out the statement. It should have been a 15 yard penalty, whatever, blah blah, blah.
- [107:56]
Darius J. Butler
Come between. Do they have the same rule inside.
- [107:58]
Pat McAfee
The number go out?
- [107:59]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, you got to check.
- [108:00]
Ty Schmidt
That was the hideout.
- [108:01]
AP Tone
Tried to call timeout too and they didn't give Auburn's coach timeout.
- [108:04]
Boston Connor
It was Hugh.
- [108:05]
Pat McAfee
Freeze. Not happy. God bless you, but I'm not happy.
- [108:08]
Boston Connor
He was pissed.
- [108:08]
Ty Schmidt
I think Auburn though. Auburn should come away. I think Auburn's a good football team. Oklahoma is making. Made more plays in that one.
- [108:13]
Pat McAfee
I said this on game day. I think Oklahoma best team in in the country now Oregon we're going to find out.
- [108:19]
Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah.
- [108:19]
Pat McAfee
Penn State, we're about to find out. There's a lot of big time games that are coming around. Indiana might be the goddamn team this year.
- [108:25]
AP Tone
There's a team in Texas and it's not in Austin.
- [108:27]
Pat McAfee
Texas Tech. Holy. They spent a lot of money. They're very good. I assume that's one of the storylines of the week.
- [108:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, some of those are on there. But first we got to go to the bus and bull. Michigan came down to Nebraska. The final was 32:27. And we talked to coach rule this this week and the one thing that he was worried about was the rushing defense and he should have been worried about that. Nebraska gave up 290 yards on the ground. Raiola had pressure in his face all Day long. But Michigan wins 30 to 27 on the ground.
- [108:57]
Pat McAfee
I could have. I mean, a couple of. These are some big gaping holes, aj. Michigan running like that got a lot of gap games until the big one at the end. Are you worried about Michigan maybe finding its stride here?
- [109:09]
AJ Hawk
Oh, no, they definitely will find their shot. I think their offense is awesome. How do you ever play any kind of match or man to man coverage when you have a quarterback like Underwood that's gonna just tuck it and run anytime you turn your back on them again? I would be worried about stopping this offense.
- [109:20]
Pat McAfee
That's three touchdowns. That is what the hell we think. I can't wait to talk to Coach Rule. What? What was the.
- [109:26]
AP Tone
The Justice Haynes first touchdown. The 75 yard one was ridiculous.
- [109:31]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so Michigan might be for real. Will Compton's bald. Owes 50 grand. Yeah. Yep. To Michigan's nil. And then also I guess he has seceded the 1997 CO title to Michigan. I don't think the rest of Nebraska.
- [109:44]
Ty Schmidt
Probably not.
- [109:45]
Pat McAfee
But he said he will not consider himself a 1997 national champion anymore. Which is. I knew that was tough for him to give up. It was tough for him to give up. He actually looks good bald. You don't look bad, brother. Especially with the new rig, you know, that you got done. You look. You look, look good, Will. Good battle out of the boys, the busing with the bull. I also appreciate the Michigan team with the trophy, actually.
- [110:08]
Ty Schmidt
Hey, celebrating.
- [110:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I like that. That's good, A.J. that's good.
- [110:12]
Boston Connor
Great.
- [110:12]
AJ Hawk
It's awesome. They. Yeah, that just came out of like their brains. And all of a sudden it's a part of the both teams. Like it's a legit real thing and.
- [110:19]
Pat McAfee
Good for college ball. You know, the. More trophies better.
- [110:22]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [110:22]
AP Tone
More rivalries.
- [110:23]
Pat McAfee
Like the Platypus trophy out there. Oregon.
- [110:25]
Boston Connor
Oregon, that's right.
- [110:26]
Pat McAfee
You know, it's half. Half Duck, half Beaver. It's a Platypus trophy. It's a big deal. Yeah, we did seven minutes on that.
- [110:33]
Ty Schmidt
Rightfully so.
- [110:33]
Pat McAfee
On game day. I was mad it wasn't eight. Yeah, me too.
- [110:36]
Boston Connor
Shocked me.
- [110:37]
Pat McAfee
First four minutes, I'm like, what's going on here? What. What is the deal? This 190 degrees out here. What's going on? These people are gonna die during this Platypus. And then I started paying attention. I'm like, yep, story does need to be told.
- [110:48]
Ty Schmidt
Platypus.
- [110:48]
Pat McAfee
And then Dan Lanning makes an appearance and I'm like, lanning's part of it. Obviously there's Going to be an intense. If there's trophy I want to win, I'm like, all right, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in. Then they put a picture of that thing up there and it's like, platypus does deserve its own segment like this. And then the troll trophy. Do you see that one? Oh, yeah, Troll trophy. This thing is God awful looking, but I understand it's worth a lot. And the bus and bowl trophy becoming a thing is good, obviously.
- [111:09]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [111:09]
Ty Schmidt
And you know what else is good? You know what? People love when they spend money and it works out. Texas Tech went into Utah was a 10am local kick, which is I'm sure everyone loved down there, there. And Texas Tech had two quarterbacks play. Baron Morton is the starter. And then Will Hammond came in when Baron Morton got hurt. They both looked awesome. The Texas Tech offense looked awesome, the defense looked awesome. Money well spent in Texas tech for a 3410 win in Utah, which is not an easy place to play.
- [111:36]
Pat McAfee
So to be clear, a lot of Texas Tech people telling me all you say is that we spent money. It's like, well, I'm just saying that you're a part of 20, 25 college football. That's what I'm saying.
- [111:44]
Boston Connor
Yes.
- [111:44]
Pat McAfee
We say everybody that is spending money spends money because it means that their institution, their boosters, their people all in, they are spending money. Which we need to know now, if you spend money on the wrong guys, doesn't matter.
- [111:55]
Boston Connor
Right.
- [111:55]
Pat McAfee
So we apologize to Texas Tech for. I apologize for not immediately being like, yup, Texas Tech is for real. What they did to Utah in Utah. Texas. Texas, for real.
- [112:03]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [112:04]
Pat McAfee
They able to go in there, the mighty Utah student section 10am local and do that to them. I'm impressed with them. And it does feel like they speak spent the money on the right pieces.
- [112:12]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [112:13]
Pat McAfee
And a backup quarterback is a guy is what everybody said.
- [112:15]
Boston Connor
Dude.
- [112:15]
AP Tone
When Will Hammond came in, as soon as he gets into the huddle, there was juice. It wasn't like a oh moment. The old line was pat him on the back. It was good vibes. And he just started throwing seeds. I didn't know he could run. And maybe that's because he's white and has red hair and he's from Texas. But he was moving on a couple of those. In those highlight films. There was one, he threw a dagger touchdown. That was a back shoulder dart. I don't know how Texas Tech feels inside the locker room, but as a outsider, just kind of, hey, Texas Tech's fun to Watch. They better start Will Hammond because he is.
- [112:47]
Ty Schmidt
He looks like a good guy.
- [112:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he looked unbelievable. It was fun to watch their team and congrats to them being real. Okay, last storyline of the weekend. We should have been talking about Tone.
- [112:55]
AP Tone
Yes.
- [112:55]
Ty Schmidt
And a lot of people were asking this question on the Internet after the game. Who is this year's Indiana? Oh, maybe it's just Indiana again because they hosted Illinois this week. Illinois was a top 10 team and they won 163 to 10. That's that block punt was by Diego Pons who was all all Big Ten cornerback. He's going to be drafted very high, very good. And then Mendoza was 21 of 23 for five touchdowns. Sig had the boys rolling early and often and it was in classic ass beating. Watch out, Indiana's back again because Sig's there still and. And they are rolling.
- [113:28]
Pat McAfee
Tone, I think we talked about this beforehand. This is another one of those where I was surprised everybody picked up Illinois during game day. I got a lot of picks wrong, but there's a couple that like are made where I'm like, I didn't expect this to be this one way strictly because I know everybody respects Ben, what they're building in Illinois. But like Signetti, you can google that. Like he does win Mendoza, good quarterback.
- [113:49]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [113:49]
Pat McAfee
Veteran quarterback. Been there, done that in Indiana. Has become a little bit of an atmosphere.
- [113:54]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [113:54]
Pat McAfee
Okay. It's become her. Sold that place out. It's like I thought that was gonna be a tough game for a little Illinois. Didn't expect that.
- [113:59]
Ty Schmidt
A lot of people thought Indiana was gonna have a bunch of turnover just because of all the transfers they brought in last year. No, those transfers were like two years players. They. They have a lot of guys coming back. So besides quarterback, basically the same team.
- [114:09]
Pat McAfee
And that's the Signetti blueprint.
- [114:10]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [114:11]
Pat McAfee
Hey, the Big Ten's got squads all of a sudden. We'll continue digitally. This is wrapping up. Read the Onion. Rest in peace to A.J.
- [114:18]
Boston Connor
Yep.
- [114:19]
Pat McAfee
See you tomorrow. Ever reacting to Monday Night Football. Great article.
- [114:23]
Ty Schmidt
That is a great article.
- [114:24]
AJ Hawk
Is there an art?
- [114:25]
Pat McAfee
Is there an art?
- [114:25]
AJ Hawk
I just saw the screen. Screenshot.
- [114:27]
Adam Schefter
There's an article.
- [114:27]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [114:28]
Pat McAfee
There's a write up. Oh, no, A.J. maybe a Halloween question.
- [114:33]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [114:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [114:34]
AJ Hawk
Hey, maybe they set me up for a good Halloween costume.
- [114:36]
Pat McAfee
Maybe they're thinking for you just know that we would know.
- [114:39]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [114:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I would like that.
- [114:41]
AJ Hawk
You know, I had a good buddy, Brad Jones, who I play with in Green Bay. Very awesome teammate. And we. I used to ask him a Lot. Me and Clay would say, brad, in the off season, if you die, like, how many weeks until somebody knows noticed, and sometimes he'd say it might be two or three months until, like, camp starts. Do they realize I'm not here?
- [114:56]
Pat McAfee
So he just kind of lives out in the woods, this guy, or what?
- [114:59]
AJ Hawk
Well, he's just a very unique character now. He's like super duper smart. Lives in Manhattan now, but no one can ever. You can ever get a hold of him. He just does his own thing, feeds to his own drummer, as they say. But he is the man.
- [115:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I love that. Love him. Love that you're not actually dead and love that the Onion is actually. Hey, that's a huge honor for us. All right, let's take a break. We'll make our picks on the other side.
- [115:22]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, yeah.
- [115:23]
Pat McAfee
You feel like you got a good read on it?
- [115:25]
Boston Connor
Yes.
- [115:26]
Pat McAfee
Really, A.J. you feel like you got a good read on it? It was a bad weekend for both of us.
- [115:30]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
- [115:31]
Darius J. Butler
I don't know my.
- [115:31]
AJ Hawk
I don't know how many I got, but, man, it felt like I didn't have anything.
- [115:35]
Pat McAfee
You were close to that.
- [115:37]
Boston Connor
Oh, man.
- [115:37]
AJ Hawk
Every game, like, oh, there. That had to be a loss for me.
- [115:40]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, me too, though. I didn't do great either, brother. It was tough weekend. Seven games, brother. Came down to it. So that. I mean, that's the amount of swings for money that that could have went.
- [115:50]
AP Tone
I mean, Rams, Eagles.
- [115:52]
Pat McAfee
Exactly. Very end. Then you think about. Yeah. Jordan Davis. You think about the blowouts, though, too. Like, the weekend was wild.
- [115:59]
AJ Hawk
We had packers getting beat, too. The packers bit getting beat straight up, too, at seven and a half point favorites.
- [116:04]
Pat McAfee
Insane. But there was blowouts out here. Look at this. Like, ass beating. That doesn't happen.
- [116:08]
Boston Connor
No.
- [116:09]
Darius J. Butler
Should have out blowout shutout division. It's crazy.
- [116:11]
Pat McAfee
That doesn't happen. Six of them. If the NFL was. Was told, hey, you're gonna have six blowouts in one weekend, the NFL and everybody would be like, no way. That.
- [116:19]
Boston Connor
That's not the NFL afternoon slate.
- [116:22]
Ty Schmidt
Because that. That Saints Seahawks game was like 40 nothing with like 11 minutes left in the second quarter. And it was just like, oh, here we go. Like, there's nothing for that afternoon slate.
- [116:32]
Pat McAfee
And what the NFL is saying is, yeah, yeah, yeah, six blowouts, but also, boom, bang. How about the Thrillers, huh? Yeah, we got seven of those. More on this one than the first one. Never forget it. NFL still king. God bless you. That. That is.
- [116:42]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [116:42]
Pat McAfee
That is literally what the NFL's saying. But it was a Wild weekend. You could have given up on games. Could have given up on a couple games because it was over. But you would have never known because how many of these became games. Like let's say the Patriots 14 nothing. Steelers early. It looked like Patriots for. Yeah, no chance. They come back, make a massive play play. Green Bay Packers 10 zip. Long time. Like 2 minutes left in the game.
- [117:05]
Boston Connor
Yeah, they.
- [117:05]
Pat McAfee
They had that entire thing. Yeah. The LA Rams are up 26 to 7.
- [117:10]
AP Tone
Yep.
- [117:11]
Darius J. Butler
26 on airs.
- [117:12]
Pat McAfee
Could have gave that. Could have gave up on that game.
- [117:14]
Ty Schmidt
And it was like by a bunch too.
- [117:15]
Pat McAfee
So much of a. There's a lot of.
- [117:18]
AP Tone
I mean, last week and it happens every week, but last week the Falcons had the best defense and they were going to be unbelievable. And then they just got 30 hung on them.
- [117:26]
Pat McAfee
We don't know.
- [117:27]
AP Tone
Hey.
- [117:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's about. About here.
- [117:29]
Ty Schmidt
Not yet.
- [117:30]
Pat McAfee
But tonight we're going to get it right.
- [117:32]
Boston Connor
Hell yeah.
- [117:33]
Pat McAfee
For us.
- [117:33]
AP Tone
Come on, boys.
- [117:34]
Pat McAfee
All right. We'll make our picks. On the other side, four and a half point favorites are the Baltimore Ravens at home over under 53 and a half. It's a lot of points, man.
- [117:41]
Peter Schrager
Ton.
- [117:41]
Pat McAfee
A lot of points. They think electric fireworks.
- [117:45]
AP Tone
This might. This might be like the goof Rams versus Mahomes.
- [117:49]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [117:51]
Ty Schmidt
Need that after last night.
- [117:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because we were kind of punished. Finished last night.
- [117:55]
Ty Schmidt
Last night sucked, man.
- [117:57]
AP Tone
The New York teams, man, we watched.
- [117:58]
Pat McAfee
A fourth down in the fourth quarter go off the crossbar.
- [118:04]
Boston Connor
Have it.
- [118:04]
Ty Schmidt
What about prime time, man?
- [118:06]
AP Tone
What about the first down? Yeah, fourth down. Okay, but first down, what happened on first? He threw. Russell threw the ball into the God darn tunnel. Hit a guy in a scatter boom jersey.
- [118:24]
Pat McAfee
I did see that. The boys were back.
- [118:25]
Boston Connor
They did.
- [118:26]
Pat McAfee
The Costco boys were back.
- [118:27]
Boston Connor
Yep.
- [118:28]
Pat McAfee
They might just need to roll them out onto the actual football field.
- [118:31]
AP Tone
Actually, funny enough, Costco boys don't help that big justice. Excuse me. AJ went back to his old high school, led the boys out on the field and they lost. My 40.
- [118:41]
Pat McAfee
No.
- [118:41]
AP Tone
Yeah.
- [118:42]
Boston Connor
Tonight we give them five big boom boom boom boom boom, boom boom. Let's go.
- [118:55]
AP Tone
He ran them out and they lost by 40.
- [118:56]
Pat McAfee
No, that's not real. That feels like misinformation.
- [118:59]
AP Tone
49, 14. Sorry.
- [119:00]
Pat McAfee
42. There's no way they get five big booms and then lose. Okay. From what I've seen, that ain't how that thing works. All right, fine.
- [119:09]
AP Tone
I don't know what the score was.
- [119:10]
Pat McAfee
There's incoming. I just. Tone just spoke to all of us, I believe, even said there's Something coming into the group text. I assume this is potentially the five big booms.
- [119:17]
Ty Schmidt
No, it was the first down play.
- [119:18]
Pat McAfee
Okay. First down from Russell Wilson. Okay. This is throwing it into the tunnel.
- [119:22]
AP Tone
Just drilling a kid.
- [119:23]
Pat McAfee
Fourth quarter.
- [119:24]
AP Tone
Need it like need to go quick here. Need two scores. Let's score some points.
- [119:30]
Pat McAfee
Do we have it?
- [119:32]
AP Tone
I believe this was grounding it.
- [119:34]
Boston Connor
Was it into the smart play.
- [119:41]
Pat McAfee
You can't take a sack there on first and fourth down. He wasn't going to get picked. How about Flacco throwing that pick where they could have kicked like a 62 yarder.
- [119:50]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [119:50]
Pat McAfee
And instead.
- [119:51]
Boston Connor
Oh yeah, dude.
- [119:52]
Pat McAfee
Flo roll to his left and then just throw the pick basically and make sure they get the ball down there. Pretty heady play by Joe Fl football.
- [120:00]
Ty Schmidt
McKin was getting shipper. Not bad. No, I know real time. That's like why the did he. But he has. He hasn't got one yet this year. So I get it.
- [120:07]
Pat McAfee
Hey, they're gonna give incentives on picks. You got to do what you got to do. I guess. And then how about. Yeah, golden. What, what, what.
- [120:15]
Ty Schmidt
What happened here? I've been trying to not think about it.
- [120:19]
Pat McAfee
Just run down the field.
- [120:20]
Ty Schmidt
That's a 95 yard touchdown debut.
- [120:24]
Darius J. Butler
I mean you think momentum or just not. But I think it's more just not really being aware. I think he thought he was like two yards closer to the sideline than he actually was.
- [120:33]
Ty Schmidt
He even could have stopped. Just like got on a straight path again and then ran still down like.
- [120:40]
Darius J. Butler
Those two little short steps. That makes me think he was trying to make sure he got his feet, you know, in balance.
- [120:45]
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah. Yeah. So he. He didn't know he was 1, 2, 3, 4. He thought he was out there. 3, 4, 5. He thought he was already out.
- [120:50]
Ty Schmidt
And you asked like were our guys killing him for this at that time in the game there was and seven. He picks that up for. They're up 10 nothing. The team was pumped like, oh here we go. They're gonna march down and score 17 nothing. They've played like shite. But they're gonna put this one away. And of course that didn't happen.
- [121:08]
Pat McAfee
So I see that on quad box. Don't have sound. So I'm watching that and I see him run out of bounds and I immediately text hey, what the was this? Yeah was because I only saw it in quad box. So also small don't have sound.
- [121:22]
Boston Connor
Sure.
- [121:22]
Pat McAfee
Like are they just trying to pick up 50 yards real quick and then like 4 minute offense this thing like what's Going on. And then in a moment, no, everybody's just kind of like, no, we're just playing football here. But I guess, hey, it's a learning moment.
- [121:32]
Darius J. Butler
Rookie mistake.
- [121:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, rookie mistake.
- [121:34]
Darius J. Butler
Look, it is a difference. It is an adjustment. And it might be funny to some people. Like the hashes and the numbers, like those are very different. So you line and you run that slot. Fade. Being aware, you know, getting. Sometimes you'll see guys get a pick and just get up and celebrate instead of getting up and running. Like those are things you got to learn. Rookie mistake, but huge fight.
- [121:51]
Pat McAfee
Still huge.
- [121:53]
Ty Schmidt
Need more of that from him.
- [121:55]
Darius J. Butler
But it could have been a game breaker.
- [121:57]
AP Tone
Yeah, but rookie mistakes are.
- [121:58]
Ty Schmidt
And that's not on him. That's.
- [121:59]
Pat McAfee
You know, you were your pants at the draft whenever they drafted this guy.
- [122:02]
Ty Schmidt
No, I think he's great. The. The big reason they lost yesterday is because they played not to lose. And LaFleur got so conservative, they couldn't run the ball at all. I don't think anyone can. I mean, we just saw Derek Henry got, you know, he had 22 yards last week. Kind of the same with Jacobs. And when they got the ball back when they were up 10, nothing. They marched down the field in maybe four plays. And we're in field goal range. Three consecutive runs, lose two yards and then have to settle for the field goal. It gets blocked. 16 seconds, no timeouts. They give up two plays. Joe Flacco still got it. Gets the boys the line. Scrimmage kills the ball. Seconds like, yeah. Unbelievable that they. They had this much time. Look at Flacco saying, come on, boys.
- [122:42]
AP Tone
We gotta spike this thing.
- [122:43]
Boston Connor
Let's go. Let's go. Scope. Go, Go.
- [122:45]
Ty Schmidt
Hold your water, Ghost, go. Hold your water is right.
- [122:48]
Boston Connor
Boom.
- [122:49]
Ty Schmidt
We got it. All right. And then this kid nails.
- [122:51]
Darius J. Butler
He kind of got cheated actually.
- [122:52]
Pat McAfee
55.
- [122:53]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [122:54]
Pat McAfee
What a kick in Cleveland. Yeah, yeah. Like it's nothing. AJ he hit a. I think there was a 51 yarder earlier. Maybe it hit the net like really high. I'm like, these guys are murdering footballs right now. I mean, absolutely murdering both. That was a funny take that Trager had. We got guys hitting 64 yards like they're chip shots. Our guy can't even. We can't even kick anymore. It's like, it's.
- [123:17]
Ty Schmidt
I like 25 on a kicker too.
- [123:19]
Darius J. Butler
But are we at the point where we need emergency kickers? And I feel like we don't even have 32 good ones now. But like how we have the emergency quarterback situation? Like, cuz you should never NFL game. You shouldn't, you shouldn't be.
- [123:31]
Pat McAfee
It look like you don't have a.
- [123:32]
Darius J. Butler
Kicker that looked like that for the product.
- [123:35]
Pat McAfee
What's that?
- [123:36]
AP Tone
Yeah, what did he hurt?
- [123:38]
AJ Hawk
Did anyone see it? There's no film of him. Yeah, it was the same injury as last year.
- [123:42]
Boston Connor
He.
- [123:42]
AJ Hawk
He went down in warm ups with.
- [123:44]
Ty Schmidt
He doing warm up.
- [123:45]
AJ Hawk
The real mistake is Joe Shane.
- [123:47]
Darius J. Butler
He's Max Cross.
- [123:48]
AJ Hawk
Gaud is making $5.6 million this year.
- [123:50]
Boston Connor
And the best ability is availability and he doesn't have it.
- [123:54]
Pat McAfee
Okay. All right. So whenever you think about being 38, 8 years old, Graham Gano, he got drafted same class as me. He was really good punter. Coming out of college, they thought he was going to be a punter. Probably a lot of people and he became a kicker. A lot of people thought I was gonna be a kicker, became a punter. So I've always been massive fan of Graham Gill. Known him a long time. Very full of faith, very faith driven man. Good moxie though and talk. And has always had a huge leg. Like a huge, huge leg. The guy used to just murder balls. Obviously comes from a soccer background and everything like that. I don't know how he's still doing it with how hard he kicks the ball. I don't know how his muscle. I mean what I do, I hit a free kick and I. Yeah, that was two years ago. I was 36 years old. I was. I just blew my entire hip flexor out whenever I kicked a free kick. I don't know how many times he's kicking a week or a day. I don't know if he's on a kick count. I don't know all that. But it's like watching Vinnie maintain his leg.
- [124:50]
Darius J. Butler
Crazy, crazy.
- [124:51]
Pat McAfee
It was like a five hour thing every day. Five hours of like working it just for practice, just for 12 kicks in practice. We're starting that thing at like 6am all the way through just for practice. And if any missed one kick, it was like we lost Super Bowl. So it was watching him maintain his. Because kicking you have to be like very explosive because it has to get up. You know, like punting you got to be very strong because everything is go. But kicking, like the difference between the like for instance, somebody looks like there may be a ringer when it comes to kicking. You know, we might, sure. There might be a little bit of. Oh, let's see what a kick is really like. And that's a Jordan Davis, Jaylen Carter got.
- [125:32]
AJ Hawk
Got to get up right now, right.
- [125:33]
Pat McAfee
Now to do that you have to be very explosive. Like that takes a lot of explosion to get the ball up very quick. You have to have a very strong leg. Has to be very explosive. Explosive. That's why some of the little guys, you wonder if they're going to be able to do it or maintain it because the amount of like torque that they have to put on to be able to do that kind of hurts their entire body. So the fact that Graham Gano can still do what he does, I'm very impressed by. But like Thomas Morstead too is probably the same age as me. I'm like, I know how I feel, bro. I don't know how the. You mother prater. Exactly.
- [126:03]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [126:03]
Pat McAfee
I don't know how.
- [126:03]
Darius J. Butler
41.
- [126:04]
Pat McAfee
I don't know how the.
- [126:05]
Boston Connor
They're doing.
- [126:06]
Pat McAfee
Shane did it till he was 40 or whatever. Whatever. Because you're using. I mean it is a very violent motion to do all these things. But good on you. Good luck, Graham. Get healthy. But boy, Giants fans and those who picked you were not excited to hear that we were not able to kick a first drive. First drive.
- [126:24]
Ty Schmidt
It's crude. That was hilarious. Right after, like, yeah, he's not going to be able to kick the. And then boom, extra point gets blocked. Instantly after that first touchdown, it's just like, oh, man, I, I know what Bruce is going through.
- [126:36]
Pat McAfee
Good luck against the Chiefs.
- [126:37]
Boston Connor
Yeah, good luck.
- [126:37]
Pat McAfee
Good luck against Kansas City Chiefs.
- [126:39]
Ty Schmidt
You won't need a kicker. No big deal.
- [126:40]
Pat McAfee
Speaking of kicking, there's been some good kickoff guys that have started to weaponize the landing zone. Here's old buddy from la, I do believe hitting this knuckleball Cardi, who great kicker. That's his squib right there. A little bit of a knuckle, a little bit of a twist and then that thing hits the ground and his. Hell, if you're able to hit that ball, like if your leg strength is at a place where. Where you can just hit your knuckle and it'll land in the landing zone. Boy, you're in a good spot right now. But I think there's some kickers that are scared to hit because you're hitting really fat on that ball, which is the exact opposite.
- [127:13]
AJ Hawk
What are you doing? What are you doing to kick a knuckleball?
- [127:15]
Pat McAfee
You go right through the middle of that thing buying. Going right through it. So the entire thing just kind of implodes and then you want it to come off your. Like a knuckleball wants. Come out of a hand. Like you want that thing to Come out just uncomfortable. And then whatever it does with the wind is good. Yeah, his had a little bit of twist. Mine used to fucking. I used to have a pretty good little squib because I hit it as hard as I fucking could. But you're hitting the ball bad. Like, it's a bad place to hit the ball. It's not the sweet spot. It's a bit fat. It doesn't look good. So, like, a lot of these kickers that are hitting kickoffs now are taking their field goal steps so that they can just hit it to, like, the 1 or the 5. I'm thinking there's some guys that don't want to take their field goal steps and fucking hit a shitty ball, But I think that is the right kick for this turn kickoff. So I think punters should be working on hitting squibs because you don't have to have, like, perfect technique. You're just trying to go through the middle of that ball, A.J. you're trying to go right through the risk.
- [128:07]
AJ Hawk
The risk is what you. You yank it out of bounds. If you hit it bad, or what happens if you hit it back, then.
- [128:11]
Pat McAfee
It goes to the 40. But if you hit a touchback, it's going to 35 anyway.
- [128:14]
AP Tone
Short. If. If.
- [128:15]
AJ Hawk
But I'm saying, when you. With a squib, though.
- [128:17]
Boston Connor
What. What.
- [128:18]
AJ Hawk
What's a bad miss with the squib? What. What do you do when you miss it?
- [128:20]
Pat McAfee
So a misbehave? Oh, I don't know. I think everybody has anywhere. My miss normally would hit the ground early, so that would be considered out of bounds, which would go to the 40, which would be a nightmare. Some guys, though, he, you know, or even.
- [128:35]
Ty Schmidt
Well, that's kind of the thing with that, like, knuckleball, right, is you can't really control it. You don't really know where it's gonna. I mean, it's the same thing, like with a pitcher throwing a knuckleball is you're letting the air kind of just do whatever it does with it.
- [128:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Let the atmosphere decide. I'm gonna. I'm just gonna go ahead and give this thing to here and you guys figure out what it's going to be. That's basically a squib.
- [128:52]
AJ Hawk
That's a weapon, though. What a weapon, though. Think of the t. Think of returners, like, the week leading up to it, how much you're working on those knuckle balls. And then the game, like, oh, man, if he hits the first one good. You're sitting there and thinking, like, yeah, you don't have a whole lot of time to figure that out.
- [129:04]
Pat McAfee
You're playing like a goalie back there, almost like just hoping that you.
- [129:08]
Ty Schmidt
That's what they were doing. I watched, I watched every kickoff because I was mesmerized by it. And he had, he had four field goals and obviously touchdowns and kickoffs. So I think there was a like six or seven kickoffs. Eagles returners were in hell. They didn't, they didn't pick one up clean. Like their average start was like the 15 yard line because they were, they had no idea what to do with it.
- [129:25]
Boston Connor
It was awesome.
- [129:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I think you're going to see more and more of that. I think punters should get good at that so the kickers don't have to hit fat balls. But some of the kickers are like the greatest ball strikers on earth. So it's like I can hit a little fat.
- [129:36]
AP Tone
Yeah.
- [129:36]
Pat McAfee
Okay. What you make? Want me to make this dance? I can make it dance where you let me hit this thing short and get it at the 40 and then.
- [129:42]
Ty Schmidt
We'Re cuz that's a weapon.
- [129:44]
Boston Connor
Weapon big time.
- [129:46]
Pat McAfee
But there's going to come a time where somebody tries to do it and they're going to get the ball at the 40 and it's going to be.
- [129:50]
Ty Schmidt
Two points right down and score.
- [129:51]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [129:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, exactly. That's kicker's life basically. But cardi. Keep going, brother.
- [129:58]
AP Tone
Hell yeah.
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AP Tone
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Pat McAfee
This is the greatest sport on Earth. That's A.J. hawk the toxic tables here at Boston. Connor and at Ty Schmidt, 1/2 of the Hammer Don Cowboys AP Town who's also a published author of college football.
- [131:59]
Boston Connor
That's right. Amen.
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Pat McAfee
Way to go. We got an author up here credit 9 year NFL vet, host of everything DB good D, bad D and also NFL matchup show which you can watch or stream anytime with the ESPN Super Duper app. Ladies and gentlemen, Darius J.
- [132:14]
Boston Connor
Ball.
- [132:16]
Pat McAfee
D Bus. You know, this Monday is glorious because it's a Monday in football season, which means we get a chance to kind of test the waters of how every fan base feels. Yeah, people are feeling really good or people feeling really terrible at this point.
- [132:27]
Darius J. Butler
Oh yeah.
- [132:28]
Pat McAfee
Three games in. You think any of these people know what their teams actually are?
- [132:31]
Ty Schmidt
Are?
- [132:31]
Boston Connor
Yes.
- [132:32]
Pat McAfee
So you think some of these aren't going to actually be overreactions? Maybe they're just proper reactions to the situation.
- [132:37]
Darius J. Butler
I say 80, 20.
- [132:39]
Pat McAfee
All right, well, let's judge this.
- [132:40]
Darius J. Butler
Overreactions.
- [132:41]
Pat McAfee
You think 80, 20 over 80 overreactions.
- [132:44]
Darius J. Butler
But 20 would be spot on.
- [132:45]
Pat McAfee
All right, let's judge them for ourselves. Tie one through all of the tweets that had I don't want to overreact. Picked out his favorites. Let's go ahead and see engagement, how these NFL fans feel after their week three performance. Oh, from the Miz. Good. Just lead this one off. Didn't use the hashtag. Actually sent this yesterday immediately after the 55 yard field goal went through the uprights. I don't want to overreact, but packers didn't just lose, they got adopted. Welcome to the family because the Browns are your daddy now. Someone sent Ty Schmidt a therapy dog from the dog pound. Hashtag, here we go, brownies, here we go. Hashtag overreaction. Monday at Pat McAfee Show. He was close. He was in the ballpark, but he's certainly excited about that Brownies win over the Packers. How do you feel about the Miz being able to kind of do this to you for the next year or so, whenever, the next time you guys play, anytime you see him, I'm okay with it.
- [133:39]
Ty Schmidt
Because if I'm not mistaken, hasn't the Miz lost like 500 matches in a row for WWE? So he's kind of just. He's kind of just losing and losing and losing, losing and losing and losing and losing. And I love the Miz, so I'm okay with him maybe grabbing one of these, you know, W's here in September. In a few weeks. I'm gonna get over this one. Actually, you know what? I'll be over this one. You know, 25 minutes from now, the Miz is going to cherish this the rest of the year. And I'm okay with that.
- [134:05]
Pat McAfee
We have some breaking news from Adam schefter's Twitter account. 49ers Pro bowl defensive end Nick Bosa has suffered a season ending torn ace ACL throwing a win over Arizona. It's clean tear, but Bosa now will need season ending injury or surgery. Damn.
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AP Tone
Jeez.
- [134:23]
Pat McAfee
We saw him put his thumbs down whenever he was walking off the field. Feels like he knew what was going on. Felt like there was some optimism that he didn't tear his AC out.
- [134:32]
Ty Schmidt
Shefty said that this morning.
- [134:33]
Pat McAfee
Felt like there was some and now obviously terrible new. That sucks, dude. I don't like that at all. Godspeed, obviously on the surgery and recovery agent, but we miss out on Nick Bosa playing football this year and obviously the Niners miss out on Bosa being on the field. What are your thoughts here as we learn that it's season over for Nick Bosa?
- [134:52]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, a huge blow to Bosa, obviously into the team that we know how great the guy is. When he did the thumbs down, he looked, you see me, he looks up in the crowd. He kind of like with the sun. He sees, I'm assuming, family or somebody he knows and gives him the thumbs down. I'm like, you know, we know the Bosas. Like they, they've look like. Look at what they look like. They know exactly. They're nobody better than anybody. I'm sure he knew. This is not right. I've never had this feeling before. I don't. I don't. I assume he has not torn ACL before, but man, what a. What a brutal situation.
- [135:20]
Pat McAfee
Deba, what does this mean for the Niners? Obviously this sucks, man, for all parties. I don't like that we're not going to get to see Bosa all year.
- [135:27]
AP Tone
Just talking about this morning, how awesome it is the Niners defense is like.
- [135:30]
Ty Schmidt
He won them week one.
- [135:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And obviously we feel terrible for him and we hope Godspeed, but for us, it's. Football fan sucks. He's not there for Niners. What are your thoughts?
- [135:38]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, I think even Trent. Trent Williams after the game talked about how during that stretch he couldn't help but not, you know, think about him. And it is, you know, we say it next man up, and that's just what it has to be in NFL season because injuries are guaranteed. But it just sucks for this team in particular. It's like they just can never get all their guys on the field the same time for long stretch of time. And this is an absolute game record. This is a guy where you talk about fourth down, fourth quarter pass rush. You can only send four when you got a guy like 97 off the edge. So this absolutely sucks for him. And we get that test, you know, that test that the trainers do where they can kind of check the stability of the acl. And you kind of know a lot of times you hope for the best. But you know him, I'm sure he knew walking off the field that, you know, this was the end of his season, unfortunately.
- [136:20]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [136:21]
AP Tone
Now, you could have never predicted it, but massive drafting a guy, you know, in the top 15 to be a pass rusher just because, I mean, aside from Bosa, they might be in complete hell if it wasn't for Mikel Williams. And I think he got his first or second sack of his career against the Cardinals, too. He's playing well.
- [136:37]
Pat McAfee
Godspeed over there, Bosa. We will miss you. All right, let's go to our next overreaction, shall we? This is from Boston, Connor. Now, looking at the picture, you think to yourself, this is distinguished gentleman.
- [136:47]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [136:47]
Pat McAfee
Is that a tuxedo that guy's wearing?
- [136:49]
Boston Connor
Looks like.
- [136:50]
AP Tone
Yeah, you would think.
- [136:50]
Pat McAfee
You think there's cheeks on those tables. Tuxedo pants. If he's wearing the pants with that. Or you think maybe he's wearing shorts with a tuxedo top. You don't really know. Kind of ominous feature here. And then you look at the face and it's like, wow, this guy's got a lot moxie. Yeah. Then you think to yourself, what the does he have to say? Well, hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but the Patriots are going to be very good at football, but it's going to take some time. Let the young pups play some football and let's have a real shot at this thing next year. Connor, what do you mean by that pal.
- [137:20]
AP Tone
I mean, it's just asinine. We're looking around the league and there are certain situations where rookies are making massive contributions. Golden, we saw for the packers, he was huge. On the other side of the ball, the Browns, they're using Harold Fannin Jr. And Quinn Shaw junkins. And they're basically their team. And the Browns are one of those teams that's not playing for a Super bowl this year. The Patriots. You know, we, we drafted a running back in the top of the second round, Trevion Henderson, and he's unbelievable. By all accounts. They actually. The guy who scored last night for the Chiefs, Tyquan Thornton, you want to know why he's not on the Patriots anymore? He's not on the Patriots anymore because we cut him because he had to make room for Afton Chisholm. Another rookie doesn't play. Trevion Henderson doesn't play. Kyle Williams, drafted in the third round. He got one snap yesterday. Had a catch for a first down. Doesn't play. Personally, it's very frustrating. You wanted to buy in before the weekend. You know, Patriots beat the Steelers. Then they got Panthers, Saints. We're staring down five and one start here. There's a chance we kind of go four and one, whatever the hell it is. And then the game was just a big reminder. Oh, okay. No, we're just very young. We're the Lions before they became the brand new Lions at 9 and 8. Have to, you know, get good this year and then hopefully build on it. The only way to do that is to play the young guys. I'm fucking sick and tired of these old, old doing this. I'm done with it. I don't care. Randre Stevenson was awesome. Basically won the game last week. You fumbled the ball twice this week. No one gives a about what you did last week. And, and just across the board, that, that doesn't count because Drake May got his head spiked off the ground right before. Agree.
- [138:54]
Boston Connor
And he.
- [138:54]
AP Tone
And he didn't know where he was.
- [138:55]
Pat McAfee
And that was about to be a fumble. Probably on the goal line right there as well. I mean, they gave up 14 points, like two turnovers in end zone. That's tough right there.
- [139:03]
AJ Hawk
That's brutal.
- [139:04]
AP Tone
No opening drop, opening drive from Andre Stevenson. Fumbles on first down.
- [139:08]
Pat McAfee
No, but I'm saying the ones in the end zone.
- [139:11]
AP Tone
Yeah, the, the worst.
- [139:12]
Pat McAfee
The amount of work it takes to get all the way down, the amount of first downs, the amount of shit that goes into you getting there to do that, even be in position to Score and then it just give it away is like worst demoralizing situation for whole team. Whole team is like oh no, that's potentially 14 point swing. And every single time you guys get leave 14 points on the board basically against the Pittsburgh Steelers who are going all in this year. So if I'm a Patriots fan, it's like we this one up. Yes, we certainly did. And there was also what, five turnovers in total?
- [139:44]
AP Tone
Five total.
- [139:46]
Pat McAfee
That's a lot of turnovers.
- [139:48]
Darius J. Butler
Seven.
- [139:48]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [139:49]
Darius J. Butler
Crazy.
- [139:49]
AP Tone
I think four of them were on the Steelers side of the fields. After the first quarter, the Patriots out getting the Steelers 396 to 1011 still lost. That drive where Ramondre fumbled on the goal line, that's what changed the game. That was a 96 yard drive. I believe it was nine minutes long.
- [140:07]
Pat McAfee
Zero points.
- [140:08]
Boston Connor
Excuse me.
- [140:08]
AP Tone
The interception at the end of the first half. It was. It was a 96 yard drive. It kept the Steelers offense off the field for like an hour of real time, not just football time. And then the Steelers couldn't do anything on offense. It just sucked. But luckily for me, I actually had Jose Cuervo's Devil Reserve with me yesterday. It's a sweet, tropical, spicy infused tequila that's smooth and devilishly good. Especially after your team gets blown out or completely shits the game away. When mischief is on the menu, Devil's Reserve is the perfect choice. Listen to that little devil on your shoulder pour around his shots and get ready to raise a little hail. Even though it says get ready to raise a little hill, Bruce. Find Devil's Reserve at your local liquor store or go to Cuervo.com to purchase your own bottle of Mischief. But. But remember, you must be 21 years or old or over again. Bruce.
- [141:03]
Boston Connor
That's okay.
- [141:06]
AP Tone
This reminds me of the old office. You remember?
- [141:08]
Pat McAfee
This feels like.
- [141:09]
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [141:11]
Pat McAfee
After a little nostalgia.
- [141:12]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [141:12]
AP Tone
It'd be too halfway through it really.
- [141:14]
Pat McAfee
I think deepots actually to run that QR code right now to see if he can maybe raise a little hill.
- [141:19]
AP Tone
He should.
- [141:19]
Pat McAfee
You might be able to lift an entire hill after you do a little.
- [141:23]
Boston Connor
Oh, boom.
- [141:23]
Darius J. Butler
It works.
- [141:24]
Pat McAfee
What does it get? What does it take you to. I mean, what's that?
- [141:27]
Boston Connor
Oh, that's qu. So good.
- [141:29]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, yeah.
- [141:31]
Boston Connor
Boom.
- [141:31]
Pat McAfee
It's that little mar.
- [141:33]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [141:33]
Pat McAfee
Scan and grab your bottle of Devil's Reserve right over here with the Devil's thing.
- [141:38]
AP Tone
We didn't even try it.
- [141:40]
Pat McAfee
And what's that?
- [141:40]
AP Tone
We didn't even first playing that man.
- [141:42]
Pat McAfee
All that.
- [141:43]
AP Tone
Yeah.
- [141:44]
Pat McAfee
We did raise A little hill. I played.
- [141:45]
AP Tone
I play in my flubs, but aside.
- [141:47]
Darius J. Butler
From that, drink responsibly.
- [141:50]
Pat McAfee
You're so good.
- [141:52]
AP Tone
I just pointed my flubs. You know how it goes.
- [141:54]
Pat McAfee
Well, that's a Devil's Reserve football. Let's go to the next overreaction. This one's from Bruce Brown, noted Devil's reserve ad writer. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but if Russell Wilson attempts one more pass for this incident. Incompetent, pathetic, hapless, embarrassing, disgrace of a broken football organization. Everybody has to be held accountable. Okay, feels like you really summed it up there about everything happening in New York. Anything further you have to say, Bruce, about the situation?
- [142:20]
Boston Connor
I mean, it's contagious. I can't even write an ad read anymore. I've written probably 2,000 of them and now I'm those up.
- [142:26]
AJ Hawk
It's just an absolute joke.
- [142:27]
Boston Connor
It's September 22nd. You know, we're probably cleaning house and just looking at the Mara Nepet autism ladder where Tim McConnell gets promoted from director player personnel up to GM.
- [142:38]
AP Tone
Completely pathetic.
- [142:40]
Boston Connor
It's just an absolute embarrassment to the Tri State area that this is the product that we've been putting out for the last 13 years. I mean, we could probably stop choosing these and just stop talking about them completely after this. So that's on. On the bright side, I guess. Need dart.
- [142:57]
AJ Hawk
Maybe Jamis would be fun, you know.
- [142:59]
Boston Connor
Some pick sixes to. To lighten the mood a bit. But it's embarrassing. We got Abdul Carter playing middle linebacker because we don't have enough depth there. It's just a joke, man.
- [143:08]
Pat McAfee
What? Abdul Carter's playing off the ball. I like that.
- [143:11]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, he's playing.
- [143:11]
Boston Connor
Playing Mike.
- [143:13]
Ty Schmidt
So the Cowboys did with Micah when.
- [143:15]
Boston Connor
He came in and they were like two weeks.
- [143:16]
Pat McAfee
Right. Was that.
- [143:17]
Ty Schmidt
Well, when we put him on the line. Did I. There was a stat on the broadcast last night. I think it was like 10 of the last 12 seasons they've started owing to.
- [143:25]
Boston Connor
Is that 10 of 13?
- [143:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's what he said the last 13 years.
- [143:29]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, but 10 of 13, they've started 02.
- [143:32]
Pat McAfee
I know, but that's probably what reminded him of this, being 13 years of this, the 02, 0 and 3 starts. I mean, it sounds like Dabo and Shane, though, pretty comfortable, right? I asked Schefter three times.
- [143:44]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he didn't.
- [143:45]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [143:45]
Pat McAfee
I was like, hey, these guys. Aren't they kind of thinking about right now, though? Because they're not worried about the future because the New York Giants are certainly not in a desirable. And it's like, what is the deal with them right now? I do wonder what the future looks like because if you're going to get fired, are you going to put the rookie in there? I don't know.
- [144:02]
Boston Connor
And if they go, yeah, you got to show hope.
- [144:04]
AJ Hawk
Hey, you got to show hope for the rookie and show that, hey, we have hope for next year. Scatter Boo is a cult hero already. We know that Jackson Dart is becoming that. Let's see if he can continue that if he gets thrust into the lineup and he's the actual starter.
- [144:15]
Pat McAfee
I like that.
- [144:16]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, because you don't want to change offenses if you're your. If your rookie quarterback looks really good this year.
- [144:21]
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah, you got what you want.
- [144:22]
Ty Schmidt
To keep the same offense.
- [144:24]
AP Tone
If they go 1 and 6 and then end up going 4 and 13, but Jackson Dart wins three games and then they close 3 and 7 or 3 and 8, is that good enough? If Jackson Dart looks good for the New York fans to bring back a.
- [144:39]
Boston Connor
Coach who goes 4 and 13, I.
- [144:41]
AJ Hawk
Mean if we keep up the general.
- [144:42]
Boston Connor
Level of ineptitude, it's hey, thanks for the cute quarterback off.
- [144:46]
AJ Hawk
Goodbye.
- [144:48]
Boston Connor
Amen. Okay, but you know, if we start playing, you know, all three phases, putting.
- [144:51]
AJ Hawk
It together, you know, we're right there.
- [144:53]
Boston Connor
It's really close. Just not good enough. Table every week.
- [144:57]
AJ Hawk
Maybe they'll stay.
- [144:58]
Boston Connor
Who knows? Doesn't matter because John Mar will be there. So whatever.
- [145:03]
Pat McAfee
He's the only one that they want to get rid of. Saquon.
- [145:05]
AP Tone
Don't put that on.
- [145:06]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [145:07]
Darius J. Butler
Champion.
- [145:08]
Pat McAfee
I think what Bruce would say is, yeah, but the way he hires within his, his family and within his. He doesn't really want the best for the team going forward. He did. He lost some sleep on syn1, but yeah, he slept just fine knowing that his family's going to run this team into the ground. This is what Bruce about.
- [145:23]
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah, it, it is kind of weird because like obviously we saw Hard Knocks where we go behind the scenes.
- [145:28]
AJ Hawk
But you don't really know how much John Mara is like actually meddling in.
- [145:32]
Boston Connor
And you know, I've been to two parades.
- [145:33]
AJ Hawk
Like I shouldn't be in a position.
- [145:35]
Boston Connor
Where I'm like, hey, sell the team. But here, here we are.
- [145:37]
AP Tone
Yeah.
- [145:37]
Pat McAfee
And Eli though, last night.
- [145:39]
AP Tone
Oh, he was slinging filthy.
- [145:41]
Boston Connor
Yeah, he was.
- [145:42]
Pat McAfee
Let me hit mine. Oh, that's yours. That's kind of fun. Little side shot, little tighter hole over there. Boom. Let me go ahead and spin that. This guy stinks over here. I'll make one for you all right? How about you over here? Let me go back here. Yep, I'm not gonna miss that. Then the fan tries to do it, but what are you doing? Just try to make it in your own there. Like what you're doing, Eli. Spinning it like that. And then Giants fans see that. And then Russell Wilson goes out there and puts one in a ton of tunnel. I guess what it used to be. Why they have an Eli out here. He also hosts a show, right4giants.com.
- [146:10]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, that's correct.
- [146:11]
Boston Connor
The Eli Manning show.
- [146:12]
Pat McAfee
So you guys, you guys are forced to watch the good times.
- [146:16]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Oh yeah.
- [146:17]
Pat McAfee
Every day. Eli, competent quarterback, John o' Hare Dunko leadership out there. Tom Coughlin. We're doing cough one time. We're winning this entire thing. And then you guys roll out there and you get the chance to watch this New York Giants team. And my God, that would be tough. Did you hear them? And they're pretty dramatic group over there too.
- [146:35]
AP Tone
I think it gets worse than that too. Cuz if you really think about it, they had six years to pay guys to block for Daniel Jones and he'd be a Hall of Famer. And sure they decided not to do that.
- [146:47]
Pat McAfee
They're never in the trenches with AQ ship in a good way. Let's go to the next overreaction. AJ this is from Danny Dimes. Equals franchise Viagra. Amen. Okay, hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but thank you, Brian Dable. Since that big dumb dip couldn't figure out how to unlock the most talented person to ever play the quarterback position. Colts get a Super Bowl. First Saquon, now Dime. Somebody put Mara on suicide watch. I'm worried for the guy. I do wonder what it's like for Mara to watch Danny just do what he's doing right now. Only team in history to have no no turnovers and win this amount. Only team in history only have one punt through the first three weeks. So not only is it like we're not punting, it's like we're not turning it over. We just score all the time. Danny Dimes just scores all the time. I think it's like 70% of the scoring or scoring drives or 80% of scoring drives or something like that. I forget what it is. It's absolutely insanity. And Danny Dimes is the maestro of it all. And Danny Dimes is the new piece that's just been dropped in there alongside Tyler Warren, who is filthy as a football player. The Colts are in a great spot and I do assume that Mara is having a couple of. He's able to. Did we know he was able to? Was he also. What could he do to. Why weren't we. And now we're thinking over here in Indy. Thank you for burying this guy under hell. Basically where he was for a long time. Media, everything, just getting attacked. This dude's gotten so callous that he's just so locked in, nothing can really bother him. And he's seen every defense, he's just very comfortable in front of everything. And Shane Steichen offense, very complicated. I think there's a lot of shit going on in there. You're seeing him get to his third read a couple of different times. You're seeing them shift and pick up blitzes and do not. It's like they weren't able to do that. Obviously Shane Sten wasn't able to do that for a while because we had new quarterback, new quarterback, new quarterback, quarterback that's never played football and has never seen any of it. And then boom. Now we got Danny dimensions. Shane Steichen sleeping a lot better too. Shane Steichen's thinking day ball greatly for everything that's going on right now.
- [148:47]
Ty Schmidt
Well, for Mara it's not. I mean the winning and everything and the Saquon stuff, sure. But like all these stats that we're seeing come out. It's like, hey, guess what? Peyton Manning never did this with the Colts. Peyton Manning isn't even as good with the Colts as Danny Dimes is right now. So it's that extra little knife in his back. Like, hey, not only did you get rid of Daniel Jones, who's very good, you may have have gotten rid of the next coming of Peyton Manning as well. So here's just a nice little reminder for that. Every time you open up your phone.
- [149:13]
Pat McAfee
All the ownership is looking. I wish I could get Peyton Manning.
- [149:16]
Boston Connor
Yeah, Mara, actually we need a Dan Jones.
- [149:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. AJ Your thoughts on if a player can have this? I mean, we saw a Baker, I guess is what people would say. We see it with Sam Darnold, Seattle might be, you know, you never know.
- [149:30]
AP Tone
We'll be seeing it with Mac right now.
- [149:31]
Pat McAfee
Could be seen with Mac Jones with San Francisco go, what's next for him? We shall see. You know, it's like Carson Wentz right now. See Gino, of course, Gino Smith now full time guy, face of the franchise. It's like, is this another one of those situations?
- [149:45]
AJ Hawk
It sure looks like it. I mean he's, he's definitely proven you right. I think Daniel Jones in the team, but it just shows you like the quarterback position, especially in the NFL. Like, you rely so much on a. Whoever that offensive play caller is, your offensive line and then your weapons around you and you have a run game. Like you're just relying on so many things around you. Daniel Jones definitely has all those pieces in place around him, and the dude's absolutely taking advantage of his opportunity. The fact that if he was just a game manager and hadn't turned the ball over, they. They may still be 3 and 0 and still be playing well, but he's not turning the ball over and throwing, pushing the ball downfield, making big plays, throwing, putting the balls in windows that. Like he normally hasn't done in the past. So he and Steichen, they got something figured out, man. And credit to this O line because they look good. Good too.
- [150:25]
Boston Connor
Well.
- [150:26]
AP Tone
And what sucks even more just on the opposite end of that spectrum. And maybe there's an overreaction in here is like how far off some people can seemingly fall. Like C.J. stroud, after his first year was going to be the one and he set all those records. And now the Texans people, I, I saw people, and I don't agree with this whatsoever, but I saw Texas fans on the Internet with real names and check marks calling for. For Demo Ryan's head.
- [150:52]
Pat McAfee
No, I saw what, week three of the NFL season, though.
- [150:55]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [150:55]
Pat McAfee
The stats say if you stink early, you're gonna stink late. People are saying numbers and everything that has happened in the history of the NFL are telling us this team sucks.
- [151:03]
Ty Schmidt
You need an offensive line, need a.
- [151:05]
Pat McAfee
Good offensive line, Need a good play caller. Let's go to the next overreaction here. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but says Lotto. I'm sick and tired of Paisano Pato's conservative play caller. You can tell Sirioni tied him up at halftime in a cuck chair and said, let the big dogs eat. Jalen is keeping the main thing, the main thing. Giants and Cowboys still suck ass. Go Birds. Now, is there anything else you think that he wanted to say that maybe didn't make the tweet or. Why did you pick this one in.
- [151:31]
Boston Connor
Particular for me at the start, it.
- [151:34]
Ty Schmidt
Was the Alex Jones avatar with the. The Philly ball cap on top of his head. I. I laughed pretty good when I saw that. So I said, why not not? But most of them still like, no, it's the same deal with the Sirianni. Like, there are a couple different versions of this, but everyone still thinks this offensive Coordinator sucks. I mean, after a day like yesterday when they're getting beat as bad as they are and you just, you chalk that up to a loss, like, hey, there's no way we're going to win this game. And kind of everything we've talked about. Then finally he opens up the playbook and Jalen hurts, Looks amazing. He starts throwing the ball downfield, they're scoring touchdowns. They win that game. And still after words, all people care about is this offensive coordinator sucks.
- [152:12]
Pat McAfee
First half he was calling place.
- [152:14]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [152:15]
Pat McAfee
Second half, that was clearly somebody else. That's what they just said in this tweet, basically.
- [152:18]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
- [152:19]
Pat McAfee
And to be clear, I don't like that. It did appear as if he didn't trust Jalen.
- [152:23]
Boston Connor
Really? Yeah.
- [152:23]
Pat McAfee
Like this guy's won a Super bowl, bro. This guy's done more than you have done with football. So, like other people, you know, thinking that Jalen maybe isn't able to do all the things with their own arm, with his arm, that maybe the greatest throwers of all time can do is a thought that a lot of analysts had in pundits at, and I assume even some Philadelphia Eagles fans had last year. It's like the offensive coordinator can't be a guy that thinks that, like the offense coordinator has to be a guy. My guy can make every throw, you know, so it's like if the play calling was. Because it's like, we got good offensive line, we got Saquon, we don't know if we got this. It's like, you do know, dude, Dagger tagger. In the super bowl, biggest moment, he calls it, he drops it in a bucket. Other quarterbacks that can't do it miss that throw.
- [153:08]
Boston Connor
Yep.
- [153:08]
Pat McAfee
I like that they let Jalen eat a little.
- [153:10]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, we saw it in the Super Bowl. We saw it in the first super bowl when he was matched up against my homes where he outplayed him. Had pretty much an MVP that year. And even his last year in college when he was in Oklahoma, he threw the ball around the yard a ton. So, you know he can throw the ball some of his on Jalen as well because he doesn't take. Take those type of risks. Just knowing his team, knowing his defense, knowing the run game. Saquon, you know, absolutely killed the Rams last year in their matchups. Went for big, big gains on the ground. So I understand it once they. Sometimes you just have to do it once you get behind 26 to 7 and you kind of let that thing fly because you have big time playmakers. One of the best Wide receiver duos on the outside and let them actually throw the ball down the field. I just love that he actually did it. And now we'll see if they continue to. But it's kind of been a cycle with Eagles coordinators. You had Shane Steichen, he goes off being head coach. Brian Johnson came in. Believe he got fired pretty quickly. Kellen Moore, he came in, he was good, went on to become a head coach. So now we may be on that cycle with. What is it? Patulo. We'll see if he continues to stink or if he gets better.
- [154:13]
Pat McAfee
I love Kellen Moore.
- [154:15]
Darius J. Butler
Kelly Mo.
- [154:16]
Pat McAfee
Love Kelly Mo. Boise State.
- [154:18]
Boston Connor
Love Ken Kelly Mo.
- [154:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I seen Kelly Mo when he was at the Lions. I don't know if he was coaching or playing. It was somewhere pretty deep in his career. 15 yard yard line, crossbar.
- [154:30]
Ty Schmidt
Nail it.
- [154:31]
Pat McAfee
20 yard line, crossbar. 25 yard line, crossbar. I was so impressed. I was so. This is going pre. This is pre. Pre. Warm up. I'm out there punting some balls. They're out there just kind of around throwing the ball. Oh, my God. In every ball was just so pretty, you know, it was just like, that's Kelly Mo. So I want to say I have respect for Kelly Mo. He needs to not dress the way he's dressing as a head coach. He needs to start looking like an adult.
- [154:55]
Boston Connor
Okay.
- [154:57]
Pat McAfee
12 year old. He naturally suit or what? Just something maybe, you know.
- [155:02]
Darius J. Butler
Who do you like head coach of Swag. I. I like the Y. I like.
- [155:07]
Pat McAfee
Liam sleeveless with the long. I like that.
- [155:09]
Darius J. Butler
He talked about right here. Him more.
- [155:11]
Pat McAfee
I think the hats suck this year.
- [155:13]
Boston Connor
They do.
- [155:13]
Pat McAfee
They do small ones.
- [155:14]
AP Tone
Yeah.
- [155:15]
Ty Schmidt
The tiny logo and everything.
- [155:16]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [155:16]
Pat McAfee
It should be an option.
- [155:18]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [155:18]
Pat McAfee
I don't think it should be every, you know, like some guy like Shanahan always dresses cool. Kyle Shanahan always dresses McDaniel. McDaniel looks cool. McVeigh looks cool. Shane Steichen looks sweet. You know, all the boys look sweet. Actually, on the Colts, we see it every day. You don't get to see all the other coaches. But Kellen Moore, I know he signed up for a tough situation. Down winner. He signed up for. McDaniel is always cool looking.
- [155:39]
Darius J. Butler
Very tough situation.
- [155:40]
Pat McAfee
Raheem Morris has those.
- [155:42]
Boston Connor
Cool. Yeah.
- [155:42]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Kind of pulled up a little bit.
- [155:44]
Pat McAfee
Lost by 30 when we brought it up.
- [155:46]
Ty Schmidt
That's not cool. With no hat yesterday.
- [155:48]
Boston Connor
It was weird.
- [155:48]
Ty Schmidt
That's weird for him.
- [155:49]
Pat McAfee
Who?
- [155:49]
Ty Schmidt
Tomlin?
- [155:50]
AJ Hawk
That was. Yeah.
- [155:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That's the first time I've ever seen.
- [155:52]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [155:53]
AP Tone
Andy Reid looks Cool.
- [155:54]
Ty Schmidt
Always getting in Travis's face saying, hey, hey.
- [155:56]
Pat McAfee
How about him throwing that thing?
- [155:58]
AJ Hawk
He bumped. He bumped, trap trapped and bump him like that was awesome.
- [156:02]
Boston Connor
Shut up.
- [156:02]
AP Tone
Yo. That's what he said.
- [156:04]
Pat McAfee
Is that what Andy said to Travis?
- [156:06]
AP Tone
I answered. Andy said to Trav. Yeah, right here.
- [156:07]
Boston Connor
Shut up.
- [156:08]
Pat McAfee
Just catch the ball and off. He does throw that thing at him a little bit. Travis looked like he was a little don in the dumps, you know, like it.
- [156:15]
AP Tone
That looked weird.
- [156:16]
AJ Hawk
Man.
- [156:17]
Boston Connor
Wake up. Wake up.
- [156:18]
Pat McAfee
I think that's Andy saying, I don't have time for you to be moping around.
- [156:21]
Darius J. Butler
I like it. He said after the game he liked it. He liked. He needed some juice on the sidelines.
- [156:25]
Boston Connor
So you're in your folklore era.
- [156:27]
AP Tone
You need to get in your red era next.
- [156:29]
Boston Connor
Now Travis.
- [156:30]
Pat McAfee
Well, I agree.
- [156:32]
AJ Hawk
I do want to know what they said.
- [156:33]
AP Tone
That's what it was.
- [156:34]
Pat McAfee
I think Andy potentially told him enough with your.
- [156:37]
Boston Connor
Yeah, quit pop.
- [156:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, exactly. You're Travis Kelsey. I think. I think it was a reminder of who he is too. I think positive interaction, non negative one for them to turn it on would be really cool this early in the season.
- [156:50]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [156:51]
Pat McAfee
It's very against what they have done.
- [156:53]
AP Tone
They better because they're going to be on prime time to too and we need good games.
- [156:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But you got to think they're used to.
- [156:59]
Ty Schmidt
They just got to get healthy. They just got to get healthy.
- [157:02]
Pat McAfee
Two wide receivers coming back would be a big deal.
- [157:04]
Ty Schmidt
They got to block people too.
- [157:05]
Boston Connor
That too. Yep.
- [157:06]
Pat McAfee
That Patrick needs to stop.
- [157:08]
Ty Schmidt
He had another one last night.
- [157:10]
Pat McAfee
I know two of them. I think one got called back.
- [157:11]
Boston Connor
He did.
- [157:12]
Ty Schmidt
They didn't run the ball last night.
- [157:13]
Darius J. Butler
The backwards passes too. Like I know he recovered it. And Collinsworth, you know, damn near lost his calling. One of the greatest plays he ever seen. But like that, that, that's. That's. And what?
- [157:24]
Pat McAfee
Second one.
- [157:25]
Darius J. Butler
Pacheco running back. Real quick.
- [157:27]
AJ Hawk
Pacheco backwards.
- [157:28]
Darius J. Butler
What are you doing? Pacheco like what route is that?
- [157:31]
AP Tone
He thought he was on the other side of him. He's swinging right.
- [157:35]
Pat McAfee
Cuz there's so many D linemen there.
- [157:37]
Boston Connor
He didn't know which way was the pocket.
- [157:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, cuz look, if you go back there's a pocket that way and a pocket behind.
- [157:43]
Boston Connor
He's like, oh, I'm going to score. Throw me the ball.
- [157:46]
Pat McAfee
There's two pockets.
- [157:47]
Boston Connor
Is.
- [157:47]
Pat McAfee
Yeah that. You can see how he gets confused out there. Cuz he's just in the moment. That's two backwards.
- [157:54]
AP Tone
Two of them on within five plays.
- [157:56]
Boston Connor
Right.
- [157:56]
AP Tone
Weren't they on. Damn near play, though.
- [157:59]
AJ Hawk
What a play by Patrick.
- [158:01]
Darius J. Butler
It was unbelievable.
- [158:02]
Pat McAfee
Legit. I legitimately. How do I tweet this while acknowledging. What the. But then also, yo, what a. What a save there. That's a great play. Defensive players.
- [158:14]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [158:14]
Pat McAfee
I think are dreaming to do that.
- [158:16]
AP Tone
Oh, yeah, that's.
- [158:17]
Ty Schmidt
The eyes are.
- [158:18]
Boston Connor
L. Lit up.
- [158:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Let me go ahead and get into body and strip and then end up on it. And then the guy doesn't even land up on top, so he doesn't even take, like, a big shot afterwards. There's really no.
- [158:27]
Ty Schmidt
About as clean as it could be.
- [158:29]
Pat McAfee
Guy's off him.
- [158:30]
Boston Connor
No.
- [158:30]
Pat McAfee
No hits. It's over. Plays over.
- [158:32]
AP Tone
It's like a trade.
- [158:33]
Pat McAfee
It's perfect.
- [158:34]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [158:34]
Darius J. Butler
He announces draft pick. That's Bobby, right? Bobby O.
- [158:37]
Boston Connor
You did.
- [158:38]
Pat McAfee
Bobby Okaray is his name. Name always has been. But at one point, he did pronounce it Okariki, and I don't know if he actually pronounced it that way.
- [158:46]
Darius J. Butler
Others did feel like we're getting more of that. More guys just either.
- [158:50]
AP Tone
Yeah.
- [158:50]
Darius J. Butler
Pronouncing their name a certain way or just changing it, you know, five years in their career. Like, actually call me this.
- [158:56]
Pat McAfee
You're talking about Rob, Mack writer. It's always sunny in Philadelphia.
- [158:59]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [159:00]
Pat McAfee
They just changed his name.
- [159:01]
Boston Connor
Yep.
- [159:02]
Darius J. Butler
Broncos.
- [159:03]
Pat McAfee
Bijan A. Chan.
- [159:05]
AP Tone
Yeah, A Chan.
- [159:06]
Darius J. Butler
Even fucking Denzel Washington came up.
- [159:08]
AP Tone
What's his name now?
- [159:09]
Darius J. Butler
Said his name is supposed to be Denzel.
- [159:11]
Pat McAfee
Fucking Denzel Washington.
- [159:13]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [159:14]
Pat McAfee
Denzel. I apologize for being a part of any misconstrued information about how your name is pronounced. I want to let you know, I was saying I love Denzel Washington a lot. Feels like that's disrespectful. Now. I will go back and correct that with everybody I said it to, and I wish I had more time to be able to do that. But Denzel Washington from here on out, if that's what he wants to be called.
- [159:37]
AP Tone
That name sucks.
- [159:38]
Boston Connor
Whoa.
- [159:38]
AP Tone
Do we have to call his kid David Washington now, too?
- [159:41]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [159:42]
Pat McAfee
We haven't heard from him since. We haven't heard from him.
- [159:45]
AP Tone
Geez Louise. Dude, Denzel Washington is.
- [159:48]
Boston Connor
Yeah. I got a brother. The coolest name ever.
- [159:49]
AP Tone
Got a brother named Denzel Washington. Sounds like a princess.
- [159:53]
Ty Schmidt
I'm not calling you Darius. I'm not doing it.
- [159:55]
Darius J. Butler
Well, actually be Darius, but Darius is good with me.
- [160:01]
Pat McAfee
The Rios is sick. Astrology, like, I like that.
- [160:06]
AP Tone
Toonie would be cool, too.
- [160:08]
Ty Schmidt
That's exactly actually how you pronounce it.
- [160:10]
Pat McAfee
What's that? That would be a soft O on that thing.
- [160:13]
Ty Schmidt
It's actually, that's more of a shorten. You'd have to call me Antony.
- [160:17]
Pat McAfee
Antony is not a bad name. All right, let's go to another overreaction. This one's from Rube at H. Town clears Hashtag. I don't want to overreact. But. But okay. Like that.
- [160:29]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [160:30]
Pat McAfee
Two butts, rip and piece. The Texans are cooked. And the S2 test was right about shout the whole time. We need to fix the O line fast. Otherwise, we're going to see Davis Mills taking snaps by the end of the season. We all know Dougie Mills is a good player. We know Dougie Mills is a great ball player. Loves the game, loves the sport, loves his teammates. I don't like that. This golden. What was the thing called gold standard S2 test?
- [160:58]
Ty Schmidt
I think it was the S2.
- [161:00]
AP Tone
S2 cognitive test.
- [161:01]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, there it is.
- [161:02]
Pat McAfee
But remember, there's so many different parts. To take one part of the test out of context with everything else is rude to cj. Well, what's everybody else's score? Well, we're not gonna say that. It's like. Well, can you tell us the rest of his course? We're not gonna say that either.
- [161:16]
Boston Connor
No.
- [161:16]
AP Tone
What about on a graph?
- [161:17]
Adam Schefter
Where.
- [161:18]
Boston Connor
Where is it?
- [161:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, can you just tell us what is the mean median? Can you say. A lot of these have been coming out.
- [161:24]
AP Tone
A lot of those.
- [161:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, a lot of these coming out.
- [161:27]
Ty Schmidt
Seeing those huge in football stats.
- [161:29]
AP Tone
Dan Jones isn't even on it.
- [161:31]
Pat McAfee
The data folks, I. I feel like I'm going back to stats class. Literally, they're just popping up, and I'm like, what the is the xx? And then they use some. And I'm like, I don't know what that means. And then I go with the Y and I'm like, what the is that?
- [161:43]
Boston Connor
That?
- [161:44]
Pat McAfee
And then I see the Colts top right. I'm like, that's good.
- [161:50]
Boston Connor
That's where we want to be.
- [161:51]
AP Tone
Quadrant.
- [161:52]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [161:52]
Pat McAfee
Q1, I believe, upper right, quadrant.
- [161:55]
AP Tone
1, 2, 3, 4. It goes.
- [161:57]
Pat McAfee
They go clockwise.
- [161:58]
Boston Connor
I do count.
- [161:59]
AP Tone
I thought that was 1, 2, 3, 4. But the way I'm doing it is backwards. To you.
- [162:07]
Darius J. Butler
Is that clock? Yeah.
- [162:08]
Pat McAfee
Counterclockwise?
- [162:09]
AP Tone
Yeah. I thought it was.
- [162:10]
Pat McAfee
Is one top top left?
- [162:12]
AP Tone
I thought one was top right and four was bottom right.
- [162:15]
Pat McAfee
Interesting. So you want to be up and to the right to Q2.
- [162:19]
AP Tone
No, Q1. Top right is 1.
- [162:21]
Ty Schmidt
But in what you're saying, Q2, what.
- [162:23]
AP Tone
You'Re saying is so top right, Q1. Top left is Q2.
- [162:27]
Ty Schmidt
I thought top right, Q1 yep. Top, left, 2.
- [162:32]
Pat McAfee
Oh, so it is counter.
- [162:33]
AP Tone
Yeah, counterclockwise.
- [162:34]
Pat McAfee
I. I want. I want clockwise down here. Yeah, but no, you don't want to do that. Why would I. I ever do that?
- [162:38]
Darius J. Butler
That's four.
- [162:39]
Boston Connor
Four.
- [162:39]
AP Tone
Four touch.
- [162:40]
Pat McAfee
Why would you ever do that? You wouldn't want to do.
- [162:42]
AP Tone
That's the worst one. You know, Bottom or. No, bottom left's the word. Three is the worst one.
- [162:46]
Pat McAfee
Stats class was certainly something. I felt like I was outmatched in there for real. I didn't really.
- [162:51]
Ty Schmidt
Jumbo stats kind of suck.
- [162:52]
Pat McAfee
A lot of words, dude. Bell curve.
- [162:54]
Boston Connor
Algebra.
- [162:55]
Ty Schmidt
Algebra.
- [162:55]
Pat McAfee
Day one with the bell curve you need.
- [162:57]
Ty Schmidt
Algebra's the best.
- [162:58]
Boston Connor
What about the linear curves, the outliers?
- [163:01]
Pat McAfee
All that I get. It was a good class for me to take, but every day was worse than word mumbo.
- [163:05]
AP Tone
Jump, cosine on the calculator where you had to do the coast.
- [163:10]
Pat McAfee
Now let's just go to chemistry. The significant figures or the siggy figures? Yeah, those things. A whole nother animal. What do I need to learn these for? So I can say it one day.
- [163:21]
AP Tone
Physics. Physics Sucked ass.
- [163:24]
Pat McAfee
I think I got out of that one.
- [163:26]
Ty Schmidt
I like physics. It was similar to algebra, if I remember correctly.
- [163:29]
AP Tone
My teacher was easy. We didn't do any work.
- [163:31]
Pat McAfee
I just hated the book, like, looking at it.
- [163:34]
Boston Connor
Boring. It was boring.
- [163:36]
AP Tone
It was stupid.
- [163:37]
Boston Connor
Carried around nothing in it that helped me.
- [163:40]
Pat McAfee
What was Ohio? Ohio? High school curriculum.
- [163:43]
Boston Connor
You doing pretty good.
- [163:45]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [163:45]
AJ Hawk
Not me. You know.
- [163:50]
AP Tone
All right, son. You graduate. Here's your diploma.
- [163:53]
AJ Hawk
Maybe some places. Maybe someplace.
- [163:55]
Pat McAfee
I don't like that. A. A.J. i don't like. What was your favorite? Mathematics.
- [164:00]
AJ Hawk
I told you, my brain does not compute numbers. I am definitely disabled when it comes to numbers.
- [164:05]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you're not an arithmetic guy. The most basic form, you don't want.
- [164:08]
Boston Connor
There's.
- [164:09]
AJ Hawk
If you're. If someone's saying numbers or puts numbers on a sheet, I just shut down.
- [164:12]
Pat McAfee
There's. That's probably called something. I assume. I see.
- [164:15]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, it's called learning disabled when it comes to phobia. I've been tested.
- [164:20]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [164:21]
Pat McAfee
Hey, well, congratulations. Thank you for showing that you can still.
- [164:26]
AJ Hawk
No, it's good because I.
- [164:27]
Boston Connor
It.
- [164:28]
AJ Hawk
You know, other things are very high because it's so terrible in math, you know, I. I like other things.
- [164:33]
Pat McAfee
You lose one sense, you gain another, folks. Oh, yeah, that's true. The pest on like was allmo.
- [164:37]
Boston Connor
Bingo.
- [164:37]
Pat McAfee
Never forget it.
- [164:38]
AP Tone
One of the goats.
- [164:38]
Pat McAfee
He was a blind man working street, obviously, but he could hear somebody swinging at him. That's why he was Able to miss. Yeah, you lose one sense, you gain another. That's what AJ's like with his brains, intelligence.
- [164:46]
AP Tone
Daredevil.
- [164:47]
Pat McAfee
That's amazing. Football way high.
- [164:49]
AP Tone
I mean, I wonder what he lost when he governed of his shot. Shrimp allergy. Because he definitely lost something for that.
- [164:53]
Pat McAfee
Oh, he's never.
- [164:54]
AP Tone
Because he gained the allergy.
- [164:56]
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you what he's gaining.
- [164:57]
Darius J. Butler
I do too.
- [164:58]
Pat McAfee
Great hair. What's that?
- [164:59]
AJ Hawk
Shrimp you got?
- [165:01]
Darius J. Butler
You beat it. Well, I haven't tried it. I turned 25 and just got sick.
- [165:06]
AJ Hawk
I got a plan for you.
- [165:07]
Darius J. Butler
Everything all shelf, just shrimp.
- [165:10]
Pat McAfee
A.J. fox.
- [165:10]
AP Tone
Yeah, he'll get it.
- [165:11]
Pat McAfee
Oh, she can have crab, still crab, lobster.
- [165:15]
AJ Hawk
Just not shrimp.
- [165:16]
Darius J. Butler
It's not shrimp.
- [165:17]
Boston Connor
Shrimp, mussels.
- [165:17]
AJ Hawk
Are you sure you didn't have some weird, bad shrimp?
- [165:19]
Boston Connor
Nope.
- [165:20]
Darius J. Butler
Three different states. Boston, Charlotte and Florida.
- [165:23]
Boston Connor
Wow.
- [165:23]
Ty Schmidt
So, yeah, three times. Yeah. That's a good time.
- [165:25]
AP Tone
Three different great shrimp towns.
- [165:27]
Pat McAfee
I've got any here in Indianapolis, though. Our shrimp, I think the most fresh.
- [165:32]
Darius J. Butler
Nope.
- [165:33]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Indianapolis. Seafood.
- [165:35]
Darius J. Butler
So shrimp pretty fresh here. A lot of guys.
- [165:38]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, fresh. Catch on guys every morning.
- [165:40]
AP Tone
Yeah, shrimps and shrimps and guys. Monroe Layers Lake.
- [165:43]
Pat McAfee
The thing about it being at being a geist lake. Thing is it tastes sweet, tropical and spicy.
- [165:51]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [165:52]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [165:52]
Pat McAfee
Coming out.
- [165:53]
AP Tone
Yeah.
- [165:54]
Pat McAfee
You know, we're talking about.
- [165:55]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
- [165:55]
Pat McAfee
Raise a little hill, raise a little water. Get the scrimp down there.
- [166:00]
Boston Connor
Yep.
- [166:00]
Pat McAfee
I think I've been to a scrimp farming place.
- [166:02]
Boston Connor
Oh, really? All right.
- [166:03]
AP Tone
Louisiana down there by you now?
- [166:05]
Pat McAfee
I think so. I think I've been there, maybe. I think it was.
- [166:08]
Ty Schmidt
That'd be fun.
- [166:09]
Boston Connor
A scrimp bog.
- [166:11]
Pat McAfee
Ooh, is that like a field with a bunch of water?
- [166:14]
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah.
- [166:14]
Ty Schmidt
Scrimps wouldn't be in there, but I was just thinking in like a swamp in Louisiana where a bunch of scrimp are just kind of in like a little bog.
- [166:21]
Boston Connor
But I don't think.
- [166:22]
Pat McAfee
I always thought for some bub always had that one.
- [166:26]
Ty Schmidt
They were out in the ocean.
- [166:27]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Yeah.
- [166:28]
Darius J. Butler
Alabama.
- [166:28]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [166:28]
AP Tone
That's far away now. I mean, I. I assume it was Louisiana. I bet they take you on a good shrimp hunt.
- [166:33]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
- [166:34]
Ty Schmidt
Could have been, though.
- [166:35]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [166:36]
Pat McAfee
You get those in Pittsburgh, you know that.
- [166:38]
Boston Connor
Yeah. All right.
- [166:40]
Pat McAfee
We don't eat them anywhere near as much as the south does those. Order them in ten pound bags.
- [166:45]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
- [166:45]
Darius J. Butler
What is it?
- [166:46]
Pat McAfee
Craw fish.
- [166:47]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, yeah.
- [166:48]
Pat McAfee
You lift up a rock, they're right underneath there.
- [166:51]
AP Tone
Suck the life out of it.
- [166:52]
Pat McAfee
But in the south, they boil.
- [166:53]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
- [166:54]
Ty Schmidt
Out of crawfish.
- [166:55]
Boston Connor
Boy.
- [166:55]
Pat McAfee
And you buy them in, like, a garbage bag. Can I take five pounds of crawfish and each put it in the bag? And then I think they even dig.
- [167:03]
Boston Connor
A hole and they'll put a nice boil.
- [167:06]
AP Tone
Yeah. Do the whole. Yeah, yeah. The cool.
- [167:08]
AJ Hawk
Dump them on the table.
- [167:09]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [167:09]
AJ Hawk
All the lemons and all that. It looks good. I don't know if it tastes good.
- [167:12]
Pat McAfee
I was there one time. It was electrifying. It was quite a vibe. I mean, music's playing. Obviously we're drinking. This shit's out here. Then they talk about sucking the head. That's all they talk about. I'm telling you, that's what they said. I had the same reaction you did, but I guess it's a culture thing. They're twisting in, pulling and sucking the head. This guy down here has sucked the head. Somebody said. I was like, oh, I don't know what real. Yeah, it's good. It's a good time, though. I will say crawfish bowl is a good time down there. They have a great time down.
- [167:43]
Darius J. Butler
How was that gator Miami?
- [167:45]
Boston Connor
That was a g. So I don't.
- [167:46]
Pat McAfee
Know if I ate the gator or not. I had the burger that was in the gator's mouth.
- [167:49]
Boston Connor
Okay. Oh, okay.
- [167:50]
Pat McAfee
But it never got clarified to me me if that was a gator burger or not.
- [167:55]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [167:56]
Pat McAfee
Like I will say burger probably not the best thing on the item. Especially with it appeared as if they made that burger baby, the night before.
- [168:03]
Boston Connor
Okay.
- [168:05]
Pat McAfee
The one that they put in the gator.
- [168:06]
Boston Connor
Yeah, sure.
- [168:06]
Ty Schmidt
Reheat it and put it in the gator's mouth.
- [168:08]
Pat McAfee
I assume that gator was not supposed. That was. That was for sure. I immediately grabbed gator head. You know, we talked about Crocodile Hunter, Steve Irwin. I couldn't wait to get my hands. Hands on that. Gator that lived a long life, died in its sleep.
- [168:22]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [168:23]
Pat McAfee
Which I for sure. But I don't know. I think that might have been like.
- [168:25]
Boston Connor
Show burger, you think?
- [168:26]
Ty Schmidt
They were standing off stage and like, oh, he's grabbing the showburger.
- [168:30]
Pat McAfee
The wings were very good. There was like a little string.
- [168:36]
AP Tone
String cheese, mozzarella, pork drink.
- [168:38]
AJ Hawk
Cheese is good.
- [168:39]
AP Tone
Oh, pulled pork.
- [168:39]
Pat McAfee
Pulled pork. Yeah. Pulled pork out there. There was a lot of this. I don't know what the gator was, is what I'm saying.
- [168:44]
AP Tone
It was mixed in there.
- [168:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Somewhere in there.
- [168:46]
Ty Schmidt
Gator bites in there somewhere.
- [168:47]
Pat McAfee
I definitely had. Everything was good except for dea. Felt like you weren't supposed to eat it.
- [168:51]
AP Tone
Yeah, well, no matter what, it wasn't going to Be as good as Governor Jeff Landry's gator. So at the end of the day, probably a smart move not having any gator.
- [169:00]
Pat McAfee
Is there a lot of gator being ate down there? Like in Florida? You guys eat a lot of gator?
- [169:03]
Boston Connor
No, I wouldn't.
- [169:04]
Darius J. Butler
We, we see him a lot. But no, I don't know. I don't know anyone that just eats gator on regular. First time I ate gator was in like Pop Papados and think Houston.
- [169:14]
AJ Hawk
What about like central Florida? Do you butt in the big central.
- [169:16]
AP Tone
Florida deal going eating anacondas in the Everglades?
- [169:20]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, that you see. Like if you grew up, you live in south Florida, you're going to see gators. But I don't see people eating them too much.
- [169:26]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Yeah, because it felt like that place was really good. By the way, the place that brought us everywhere, that brings us the food is like top notch. They're very, very good. We are very thankful and also we need it. Yeah, like I know it's a segment, everything like that, that we are eating the. Out of that food as much as we can. Cuz it's an early start so you don't really get to eat beforehand. So like we're going through the show especially sweating. It's like food gets brought up there. It's a very good time. Be like, yeah, thank you so much. But boy, there is a real desire, there's a desire to get some food in there. So it's a necessity, I would say. So we're very appreciative of everybody that brings their food out and it is always very good. The gator. I don't know which one was the gator though, which I think is kind of a good, good thing. Yeah, right.
- [170:06]
AP Tone
It should probably stand out a little bit now. I don't know if it was.
- [170:10]
Pat McAfee
There's different sauces on a lot of things.
- [170:12]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [170:12]
AP Tone
I'm just saying the gator should be the gator.
- [170:14]
Boston Connor
You should know.
- [170:15]
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you what, holding that head was an interesting scene and then Saen eating it. We really. It was a big bite too.
- [170:21]
Boston Connor
I. Oh yeah, big old burger.
- [170:23]
Pat McAfee
Got a guide of mouth in that big. Let's get the next overreaction, shall we?
- [170:30]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, this is me.
- [170:32]
Pat McAfee
This is not it.
- [170:34]
Ty Schmidt
No, Bill just. We got crabs in the parking lot.
- [170:37]
Pat McAfee
What's that?
- [170:37]
Ty Schmidt
Excuse me. Bill just sent in the group chat. We got.
- [170:40]
Pat McAfee
What do you mean we got Crap.
- [170:42]
AP Tone
There's a freaking crab out there.
- [170:44]
Boston Connor
World's coming to like a pet crab.
- [170:46]
AP Tone
Like an actual crab.
- [170:48]
Ty Schmidt
That's what happens when you bury dead bodies around somewhere, right? Crabs start showing up.
- [170:51]
Pat McAfee
What is that?
- [170:52]
AJ Hawk
Wait, what the hell are coming for Bill's bodies, maybe?
- [170:55]
Pat McAfee
Where would that come from? That had to be somebody's pet, right?
- [170:58]
Ty Schmidt
Dead bodies.
- [170:59]
Pat McAfee
And that's a crawfish.
- [171:01]
Boston Connor
Okay. What?
- [171:02]
AP Tone
Is there water?
- [171:02]
AJ Hawk
Is there water around?
- [171:03]
Boston Connor
Like, big old crawl.
- [171:04]
Pat McAfee
That's weird that it's in the parking lot.
- [171:06]
AP Tone
That's not a crawfish.
- [171:08]
Pat McAfee
Yes, it is. Really? Look at the claws on that. Yeah, that is.
- [171:11]
AJ Hawk
Big old claws.
- [171:12]
Pat McAfee
What is that? Is that. That's a fully mature crawfish. Yeah. Like, those are in geist for sure. I'm guessing, but I can't believe one's in our parking lot. What if they're in most frank freshwater lakes?
- [171:22]
AP Tone
So I found them here twice.
- [171:24]
Boston Connor
I think the fish drop them here.
- [171:26]
Ty Schmidt
Tried to crack them and eat them or.
- [171:28]
Boston Connor
Sorry, the. The birds drop them here. Cracker tried to eat them.
- [171:32]
Pat McAfee
So I live on a lake about an hour north of here. Yeah, Birds, big fish.
- [171:36]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [171:37]
Pat McAfee
They'll drop these fish. They'll go in and grab them, and then they'll be flying away and drop them. I've had them hit the side of my house, like, window. And then the window is. Obviously just has a fish imprint on it. It was like, what the hell is that? It's like, oh, the bird couldn't handle it. Then there was this weekend we were walking around the house on. I don't know if it's Saturday afternoon or Sunday or whatever. And there's just the fish's head about this big, just sitting just right in the middle of our walkway, you know, Mackenzie's like, what is that? I'm like, I don't know how to. That had to be the biggest fish of all.
- [172:09]
Ty Schmidt
That's nature.
- [172:10]
Boston Connor
That's nature here.
- [172:12]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [172:12]
Pat McAfee
So you know those birds that live in that tree up there that are like, the same size as you that we were kind of scared of? Yeah. It turns out they're eating very big fish. And every once in a while, they'll just throw them off the house, I guess. I don't know.
- [172:23]
AP Tone
Try to get Chuck.
- [172:24]
Darius J. Butler
You ever seen, like, eagle pick up, like, a goat? It just.
- [172:27]
AJ Hawk
In the video.
- [172:28]
Darius J. Butler
Drop it off the side of the.
- [172:29]
Pat McAfee
Mountains, like a deer or whatever.
- [172:31]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, Deer, goat, whatever. Just drop them off.
- [172:34]
Pat McAfee
Just. We have two eagles that live on property.
- [172:36]
Darius J. Butler
Crazy.
- [172:37]
Pat McAfee
And they are. Are gigant.
- [172:39]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Huge.
- [172:39]
Pat McAfee
And whenever they open that thing up and you see their actual body, it's like, full America.
- [172:45]
Boston Connor
Yeah, exactly.
- [172:46]
Pat McAfee
I got these Canadian geese right Here. I don't know if you heard about what they were doing in our national anthem. Eagles. I don't know if you heard. You know, I had a little. Instead, you just get a green dot, and then for anybody that's battling against Canadian geese, green laser pointer. And you don't, like.
- [173:01]
AP Tone
Don't hit top of a rifle.
- [173:02]
AJ Hawk
Right on the top of your rifle. What's that the green dot for? On the top, like, for your scope?
- [173:08]
Pat McAfee
And then you're gonna say you're actually gonna use rifle? Is that what you're saying?
- [173:11]
AJ Hawk
I just assume that's what people do to mitigate the Canadian geese.
- [173:14]
Pat McAfee
No, but. So some people, like Tim McAfee, for instance, I told him, I'm like, hey, you need a green laser pointer. That's what we need. Ended up doing at my house because I had a Canadian geese issue, and my dad's like, I had this thing on the fucker's eye for 30 minutes. Tim was, like, taking it as a challenge if he could do it. I'm like, no, you gotta. You're putting it on, like, the ch. You're putting it so they can see the green thing, and then they get scared, and then they run. Like, you just putting it on the eye. Certainly a great display of skill. But, like, I don't think any of the other geese saw it. He goes, no, they had to have seen it. It was right in the eye. I'm like, you're trying to fucking scatter them, basically. That's what you're trying to do. Trying to make them think that and they'll leave forever is what I learned. Now there is a chance that Tim McAfee came and killed all those geese.
- [173:57]
AP Tone
Yeah, that right. With a sword.
- [173:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Maybe just.
- [174:00]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I got a. I got a green light. It's a laser thing that shoots really far and it actually lights things on fire. So you could just give them a little. It'd be like. Give them a little. It wouldn't light them on fire, but it would, like, it would be real hot on them, and if they stood still, it would. It would catch flames eventually, so they would not come back. I was just thinking about it. I have never used it on an animal or anything, but I'm just burning leaves from 100ft away.
- [174:23]
Pat McAfee
You got a laser? You got a laser? Laser is what it sounds like you bought.
- [174:26]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [174:26]
AJ Hawk
You know, like, Instagram knows what they're doing when they market directly towards people. And they've done it to me. And I bought two or three of them. Yeah.
- [174:33]
Pat McAfee
Over the Last couple years you've been influenced into buying an actual laser that lights on fire from house.
- [174:37]
AJ Hawk
Amazing. Okay, I'll send a link. I mean, it'll shoot really, really far. But I don't know how. I don't know. I mean, I.
- [174:43]
Boston Connor
It's.
- [174:44]
AJ Hawk
It'll catch a leaf on fire from at least 50 yards.
- [174:47]
AP Tone
Pat's impression.
- [174:48]
Pat McAfee
If has. Have humans accidentally got in line with your fiery laser?
- [174:54]
AJ Hawk
No, I'm very careful.
- [174:55]
Pat McAfee
Very careful. Okay. Of course you are. These geese, I guess. Did you hear what he said at the very beginning of this thing? Are you talking about green laser on top of your right. He was thinking about lighting them on fire.
- [175:05]
Ty Schmidt
What's wrong with you?
- [175:06]
AJ Hawk
No, it wouldn't light him on fire.
- [175:07]
Boston Connor
It would just.
- [175:08]
AJ Hawk
It would create a little hot spot. It would create a hot spot if they stayed there.
- [175:11]
Pat McAfee
Is this thing even.
- [175:12]
Boston Connor
Is this even legal?
- [175:14]
Ty Schmidt
You're talking about cinching people's earlobes from 50 yards, 50 yards away.
- [175:20]
AJ Hawk
I didn't use on a human.
- [175:21]
Boston Connor
No one.
- [175:22]
AJ Hawk
No humans have ever.
- [175:22]
Pat McAfee
You did not. But I'm sure somebody. This is what we're talking about. We can't have these things in the hands exactly of these. This person.
- [175:29]
AJ Hawk
Ohio Personal protection. Personal protection.
- [175:31]
Pat McAfee
Lighting a. On fire in 20 minutes. What. What type of.
- [175:34]
AJ Hawk
If a guy.
- [175:35]
Boston Connor
If.
- [175:35]
AJ Hawk
If this laser. If someone stands still long enough to k. Catch on fire. A human. It would probably take four to five minutes. They're the toughest human alive. They would burn a hole right through them. Like, good for you.
- [175:44]
Boston Connor
Better move. Move.
- [175:45]
AJ Hawk
If you're getting. There's lasers on you and it's hot. You gotta go.
- [175:49]
Pat McAfee
Somebody comes into the house. Somebody comes in the house. Everybody in the bedroom. You go. Not today. And you grab this little laser and you just get that thing right on his chest.
- [176:00]
AJ Hawk
Don't put in his eyeball. He's blind. He's blind. If it goes in his eyeball. Probably.
- [176:04]
Pat McAfee
What a nice silent too, right?
- [176:06]
AP Tone
Yeah. Burn the redness.
- [176:08]
AJ Hawk
Non lethal.
- [176:08]
Boston Connor
Yep.
- [176:09]
Pat McAfee
I had no idea we were at this stage of weaponry. Sounds like we need to burn the. Out of some people. If they break into our house, I just have those things go off. What was that movie? The guy who has the Scottish accent. Older gentleman and the younger lady who's a rock. Entrapment.
- [176:26]
AJ Hawk
Maybe.
- [176:27]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
- [176:27]
Ty Schmidt
Sean Connery and Jennifer Lopez. No, Catherine Jones. Where she's dancing through the lasers.
- [176:33]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah.
- [176:34]
Pat McAfee
Maybe just have our full house full of fire lasers.
- [176:36]
Boston Connor
That'd be cool. Yeah.
- [176:38]
Pat McAfee
Got animals in there. Would it burn down the house?
- [176:41]
Boston Connor
No, because you're possibly.
- [176:43]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah, it might.
- [176:44]
Pat McAfee
No, they would have to shoot into each other. So it's just.
- [176:46]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [176:46]
AP Tone
Would that not create some sort of chemical reaction of pure flames?
- [176:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but we'd have to obviously figure that out. We're just talking about maybe front doors.
- [176:55]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [176:56]
AP Tone
Theoretical.
- [176:56]
Pat McAfee
Maybe that's the front door.
- [176:58]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah, that's towers.
- [177:00]
AP Tone
Walk through, get your leg sliced off with heat. Right off.
- [177:03]
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah.
- [177:04]
Ty Schmidt
Like hot butter.
- [177:05]
Pat McAfee
I don't like that AJ has. How many of these do you have?
- [177:08]
Boston Connor
Like three or five got.
- [177:10]
AJ Hawk
You know, I bought my first one and said this is sweet. It actually works like they said it would. So I got one or two more. Then I give. You know, if I buy it and I like it myself, then guess what my brother or my dad's getting for their birthday?
- [177:23]
Boston Connor
One of these.
- [177:25]
AP Tone
Spoiler alert.
- [177:27]
Darius J. Butler
Include.
- [177:28]
AJ Hawk
They know.
- [177:28]
Boston Connor
Include the boys.
- [177:29]
AJ Hawk
Send them stuff. Some stuff time. I'll drop ship them something some every once in a while. Like my brother. I just did his birthday August 31st. Sent it to him. I said, hey, let me know how it is because if it's sweet, I'm getting one. Like, it was a cool fly gun shooter with CO2 and.
- [177:40]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [177:41]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [177:42]
Pat McAfee
Happy birthday, Ryan. I hope you enjoyed that fly gun CO2 shooter. All right, let's go to the next overreaction here from Michael Peony. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Michael Parsons is better off in Green Bay. The Cowboys defense is hammered, dog. Jerry said the run defense was a problem. The problem was hiring a piece of shit like Uberfluice. Our defense has made Russ and Caleb look like Tom and Peyton. Hashtag, fire gm Jerry and I don't think that's an actual photo.
- [178:10]
Ty Schmidt
I don't think so either.
- [178:11]
Pat McAfee
I don't think it's. I don't think it is. A.J. do you think this is valid? The defense? Eberfleuss, good defensive coach. Remember the good old days when he was doing good stuff?
- [178:21]
Boston Connor
Yeah. It.
- [178:22]
AJ Hawk
I don't know. It's not looking great right now. It's not looking a great hire. Eberflu yesterday had a chance for a great revenge game. It went probably. I mean, probably as bad as it could. What did you say? Going against your former team, I guess as the D coordinator. But he got some injuries, got some guys beat up. Yes, but it's not looking great. The defense better turn around quick because I'm sure Jerry's not scared to make moves.
- [178:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Jerry said, who. Who says we don't make a move right now? And Iberflus might get his ass fired if this happens again. With that being said, forgot about a revenge game for Caleb.
- [178:50]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [178:51]
AJ Hawk
Yep, yep.
- [178:52]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [178:52]
Pat McAfee
Didn't talk about that at all.
- [178:53]
AP Tone
No.
- [178:54]
Pat McAfee
And if that's what sparks it all good for Caleb. Congrats to Ben Johnson.
- [178:58]
Darius J. Butler
All of it. Just all the cowboy like soap, like the DJ Moore touchdown. If you just take a screen, a snapshot of right as Caleb is throwing the ball, he's just wide open. Nobody within 10 yards of him on either side. That's the number one receiver in the red area. The cold commit touchdown. Same thing. Wide ass open. Like I understand a quarterback making plays, but. But in the red area. No one should be this. This open. Especially if you're dropping eight defenders like they were on the DJ Moore touchdown. It was all time bad. Like, look, look at this. Back of the end zone, middle of the end zone. No, like snatch the football league. What are we doing?
- [179:34]
Pat McAfee
Maybe it's a good overreaction. Let's go to another one here from Cody Perkins. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but the Tennessee Titans might be the first team go in 17 with this guy's head coach. Hashtag fire Callahan. Hashtag bring me Jon Gruden. Jon Gruden in Nashville.
- [179:50]
AP Tone
That's perfect.
- [179:52]
Pat McAfee
Somebody's going to hire Jon Gruden. Okay. That's how I feel. Jon Gruden has publicly said multiple times, I want to get back into coaching, man, I want to get back into coaching. Then there's going to be people that just look at his record and look what happens. And then kind of the state of the world that we're in right now, and they're going to be like, you know what? Why not Jon Gruden here? If he wins games, he'll be below loved. And it feels like he's been more dialed into football right now than ever or the same amount as he always has. Do you think he's the answer with Cam Ward down there in Tennessee? And what are your thoughts on Callahan? AJ Feels like I don't love the way he operates, but like to. In the press conferences and stuff. But I'd be pissed too, if my team was losing, I guess. And if that's how he operates, that's how he operates.
- [180:31]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. It would be really hard to be a head coach and have to deal with the press. You know, it's part of the gig. But I can understand being a little frustrated speaking to them. But he does seem to be on edge a bit. Calhan, I guess it doesn't seem to be a whole lot of fun, but we all know it is not fun to lose, especially in the NFL, on a big stage. But go to Jon Gruden if you have any idea, like, if this guy is all in or he loves ball. Like, just watch a couple clips of him from what he's doing on the Internet. The guy is obsessed with football and could probably. He could rattle off 5 trillion plays that have happened that he's been a part of as a coach.
- [181:02]
Pat McAfee
I don't want to say right, but it just came to my mind. He gave a speech that made me want to go run through a wall. That team was Wisconsin that he spoke to.
- [181:11]
Boston Connor
Ooh, boy.
- [181:13]
AP Tone
Just stay there.
- [181:14]
Boston Connor
They did respond.
- [181:15]
Ty Schmidt
They ran into a wall and their.
- [181:17]
Boston Connor
Heads down off a cliff.
- [181:19]
Pat McAfee
They didn't know how to play football. What's going on over there?
- [181:22]
Boston Connor
Nothing good.
- [181:23]
AP Tone
They need grooted at the helm.
- [181:25]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if that's where John.
- [181:27]
Boston Connor
I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if he.
- [181:30]
AP Tone
He really cares where it is. I think he just wants to be back at ball.
- [181:33]
Ty Schmidt
It is crazy where Wisconsin is at right now. Like, where they have been the last, like, 25 years. And now it's just like. Like they're in that tier with when we used to talk about, like, Illinois and Northwestern. Like, maybe it's not quite that bad, but like.
- [181:48]
AP Tone
Like Purdue, though.
- [181:49]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [181:49]
Ty Schmidt
Like they stink.
- [181:51]
Pat McAfee
And Luke's good coach.
- [181:53]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do they have money? I. I assume they don't have much money.
- [181:57]
AP Tone
Money.
- [181:58]
Pat McAfee
I don't. I assume that is a part of every conversation for Jon Gruden, too. If he's going to get into college football coaching. Can we win? Can we keep up? That's obviously question number one. We don't know about Wisconsin, but there was something with the roster, I guess, or something with the roster that was done.
- [182:11]
Ty Schmidt
So when he first took over, they hired the OC from North Carolina. His name? Chip Lindsay maybe, or something. I can't remember his name.
- [182:18]
Pat McAfee
Phil Longo.
- [182:19]
Ty Schmidt
Phil Longo.
- [182:20]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [182:20]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, please. Thank you. And that was a spread. That was like a spread offense. So they did that. And before that, they had been recruiting for the Wisconsin offense. Like, big, huge dudes. We're going to play in a box or whatever. So then they recruited for that and that didn't work. And now they're going back to the old Wisconsin ways after they had recruited for the spread for so long. It's just like they don't. I feel like they don't have an identity and they've. Their starting quarter quarterback has also gotten hurt the last three seasons which also.
- [182:44]
Pat McAfee
Doesn'T help Luke Fickle coming to a team near you that's going to have national championship host hopes. So what's happening feels like I don't know how many years he has left on the contract or guaranteed money, but Luke Fickle's name is going to be one that like we'd like him to become senior consultant here.
- [183:01]
Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah.
- [183:01]
Boston Connor
Yeah, for sure.
- [183:02]
Pat McAfee
Ohio State probably. Yeah.
- [183:03]
Boston Connor
Oh set.
- [183:04]
AP Tone
You know where it's perfect for Gruden. Ucla.
- [183:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [183:09]
AP Tone
Right out in Cali.
- [183:11]
Pat McAfee
UCLA spends no money on football.
- [183:13]
AP Tone
Oh they don't?
- [183:14]
Pat McAfee
I don't think so.
- [183:15]
Boston Connor
How'd they get Nico on?
- [183:16]
Ty Schmidt
No one goes to the game.
- [183:16]
Pat McAfee
That's a good question.
- [183:17]
AP Tone
If they spend big.
- [183:19]
Pat McAfee
It's actually a good question cuz the, the mo is like not all in on football.
- [183:23]
Ty Schmidt
I don't know if his price was that high. Yeah, I was going to. Wasn't that the big thing is like the way he, he kind of did everything going in was like it spooked a bunch of teams and he kind of just got left over with what UCLA was willing to offer.
- [183:34]
Pat McAfee
That's the whole conversation is who do you have money? Are we supportive how. What's the percentage of the rev share whenever that inevitably happens going towards football. And then you know there's going to be a lot of people that don't care about any of that just want to be a head coach somewhere. So those teams are going to have to hit with that.
- [183:48]
Ty Schmidt
Well and that's why with like the Gruden stuff for like a guy who's all about football, you didn't want to go coach in college. Like just looking at all that is required of you.
- [183:56]
Pat McAfee
He might be great at it though.
- [183:57]
Ty Schmidt
He might be. But if, but if the Tennessee Titans job. He wants to coach in the NFL. If all he is available to him is college maybe. But he wants, wants to coach in the NFL.
- [184:08]
Darius J. Butler
He, he screams SEC ball coach. I think that's where he's going to end up. He's public. He said it right. He would love to coach in the sec. Yeah.
- [184:17]
Pat McAfee
What's going on with him in the NFL? Are they still good friends or.
- [184:20]
Ty Schmidt
Well, no, but I mean like you said, you know, different climate now than when it was and I, I get we're not just going to kind of wipe away that from history and be okay.
- [184:28]
Pat McAfee
I think it's still happening though.
- [184:29]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it is.
- [184:30]
Pat McAfee
I think it's still very much in his favor. Yeah.
- [184:34]
Ty Schmidt
Which doesn't help for potentially getting back. I'm just, I'm just saying if, if everything is. I mean, and obviously you can't do that because that's a very big part of it. But like, but if, if that weren't. If he had the. The choice, he's obviously going to go.
- [184:47]
AP Tone
Back and coach in the NFL to debuts point though.
- [184:50]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [184:50]
AP Tone
I mean, we're a couple weeks away from Billy Napier football having its run over in Florida, tell you that much.
- [184:56]
Pat McAfee
How far is Gainesville from Tampa?
- [184:58]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, I would assume probably two and a half, maybe three hours.
- [185:01]
Pat McAfee
Then he live in Tampa, right?
- [185:02]
AP Tone
Yeah, yeah.
- [185:03]
Pat McAfee
That's where his fired football Coaches of America offices, where he used to go in there 5am watch film every single day. And then he had a vault there. Office, obviously. Dry erase board, ran his entire.
- [185:13]
AP Tone
It's like this guy, him with Lagway, maybe.
- [185:17]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [185:18]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
- [185:18]
AP Tone
Unless Lagway.
- [185:19]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [185:20]
Ty Schmidt
Might be playing at Iowa next year.
- [185:24]
Pat McAfee
How's Granoski doing?
- [185:25]
Ty Schmidt
I don't know. You tell me. I was. Scored 38 points on Friday night against a vaunted Rutgers defense and they're right back. I mean their only loss is against a team that's, you know, right on the outside of the top 10. So.
- [185:35]
Boston Connor
I don't know.
- [185:35]
Ty Schmidt
Are the playoffs still on? I think so. Mark Gronowski had three rushing touchdowns through for another one. Not too bad.
- [185:41]
Pat McAfee
He threw for one.
- [185:42]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, no, actually he did, but, you know, but he threw like 189 yards, which is still another first play.
- [185:48]
AP Tone
First play on Friday.
- [185:49]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, and he also, he unleashed a couple deep balls which, you know, and, and we, I actually caught those deep balls. He. He wasn't just throwing them there.
- [185:57]
Pat McAfee
Oh, so it was like a punt play for you guys. But actually it was an offensive, which again, offense.
- [186:02]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it was. It 38 points.
- [186:04]
Boston Connor
No joke. Rucker.
- [186:05]
Ty Schmidt
Ruckers was undefeated. Big one this weekend. Big one this weekend.
- [186:08]
Boston Connor
That.
- [186:08]
Ty Schmidt
This, this will. For me, this is the cuz. You cannot, you cannot let Indiana come. Come into Kennet and put up 70.
- [186:18]
Boston Connor
Indiana. Indiana.
- [186:20]
Pat McAfee
No, I know Indiana.
- [186:22]
Ty Schmidt
Well, that's, that's what I meant to say. Like Indiana plays differently than every other team in the Big Ten.
- [186:26]
Boston Connor
They do.
- [186:27]
Ty Schmidt
Like, this is not like your traditional, you know, like, hey, we're gonna play Wisconsin. They stink. We're gonna run it 65 times and we're gonna end up beating them by 10 to 14 points. You can put. Guess what? You. You gotta be scoring touchdowns against it.
- [186:40]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [186:40]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [186:41]
Ty Schmidt
Because they're gonna keep throwing going and throw.
- [186:43]
Pat McAfee
Fernando Mendoza's played a lot of ball.
- [186:45]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, but they also, you know, would that game have been a little bit different had it been in champagne as opposed to. Maybe not because they beat the out of them. Kenneth's a tough place to play, though. It is.
- [186:56]
Pat McAfee
You know, And Signetti can't wait to go in there. We're gonna put on a show for them kids. We're gonna wave at them. We're gonna let them know whole thing. This is new Indiana.
- [187:04]
Boston Connor
You need.
- [187:04]
Ty Schmidt
You need to make Mendoza uncomfortable. First for first possession. I want helmet to helmet moment when he's clearly out of bounds on the sideline.
- [187:12]
Pat McAfee
Hit him hard. That cannot be.
- [187:16]
AJ Hawk
That is not allowed to be said between the whistles. Between the whistles.
- [187:20]
Pat McAfee
No. He said when he's out of bounds.
- [187:21]
Boston Connor
Clearly out of bounds.
- [187:24]
AJ Hawk
Maybe one step out.
- [187:25]
Pat McAfee
You're saying we need to hamper this off?
- [187:28]
Ty Schmidt
You gotta set the tone early.
- [187:29]
Boston Connor
Hey.
- [187:30]
Ty Schmidt
Okay, you know what?
- [187:31]
Boston Connor
You're.
- [187:32]
Ty Schmidt
You're maybe gonna be seeing 22 guys on defense instead of 11.
- [187:36]
Pat McAfee
How are the Iowa graduates doing in the NFL?
- [187:39]
Ty Schmidt
You know, solid. I mean, Caleb Johnson, you know, he had. He had a bit of a blunder first, but that got the start. That ain't on him. Okay. This guy would, you know, he didn't return kicks hard until at his freshman year. Is the last time he'd return kicks. There's a couple times. And he gets the NFL.
- [187:56]
Boston Connor
They say, hey, guess what, kid?
- [187:58]
Ty Schmidt
You're the guy. Now, I know you're six two, 250. You got no business back there returning kicks.
- [188:04]
Boston Connor
But that's.
- [188:05]
Ty Schmidt
That's what we need from you. Outside of that, you know, I mean, a lot of guys from Iowa are hurt right now.
- [188:10]
Boston Connor
Laporta is doing great.
- [188:11]
Pat McAfee
Jack Campbell's doing great.
- [188:12]
Boston Connor
Yep.
- [188:12]
Ty Schmidt
Obviously you can set your watch to those guys being great every year.
- [188:16]
AP Tone
Worse back next week.
- [188:17]
Ty Schmidt
That's what I mean. Worfs, you know, Hawkinson's good. I mean, there are so many goddamn Hawks in the NFL, I can't even, you know. Van.
- [188:26]
Boston Connor
Yep. Coupe.
- [188:26]
Ty Schmidt
Obviously D Butts have just been gushing about him week in, week out, you.
- [188:30]
Pat McAfee
Know, so you haven't put a white person on any of your all. Everything. D.B.
- [188:34]
Darius J. Butler
It'S early. Oh, Riley Moss last year.
- [188:39]
Pat McAfee
Oh. Remember that one time last year you. That I saw a lot of paintings at Dez's house too.
- [188:45]
Darius J. Butler
Good pain.
- [188:46]
Boston Connor
Beautiful paintings.
- [188:48]
Pat McAfee
Beautiful. What.
- [188:48]
AJ Hawk
What were they? What do you mean what were they?
- [188:51]
Pat McAfee
I was just looking around. Why are you Laughing, looking around it. This is the nicest decoration I've ever seen for a house. Okay. Got a Heisman Trophy is just a decorative piece.
- [189:00]
Darius J. Butler
Wow.
- [189:01]
Boston Connor
This guy.
- [189:01]
Pat McAfee
Super Bowl MVP and a Heisman. And has an eye for, like, actual art. And the way it's like, his house is so nice. I, I, I was really impressed by the whole thing. Backyard. So sick.
- [189:14]
Ty Schmidt
I was going to say. Is it like the indoor, outdoor living kind of thing?
- [189:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you can.
- [189:18]
Boston Connor
Yeah, yeah.
- [189:18]
Pat McAfee
Got a basketball court. Court in the back. Big pool. Then he's got a gym off the end of the pool. Gym was shut down. Everything was closed. I kind of just made myself home, started looking around and then got autographs from everybody. That's everybody in the history of football. Like just hall of Fame row, basically across the top. And I shut the door, his gym turned around, started walking. Almost fell into his pool. Almost walked right into his pool. Almost everybody. Part of the party's just about over. Almost fell right into the pool. Not because if I was intoxicated or anything like that, just I was looking around. Holy. This place is nice. And I stopped. I was literally right on the edge. Right on the edge. I might have cracked my head, actually. Yeah. So thank God that didn't happen. It was beautiful, though. House is so nice. It was distracting. That was kind of the issue. That's how it's nice. All right, last overreaction. This one's from Top Gun. Hatch here. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but I seem to be stuck in Groundhog Day. Except it's not funny anymore. It's the same Steelers offense and same. Same Steelers defense. Highest pay in the league, by the way. Every week for six years, different coordinators, different players, same results. Save me Groundhog days. Great movie. Okay. I love that. I heard that. Maybe somebody was trying to change that entire Gumps. What did Bull Rush tell us? They were trying to do something with the Groundhog down there. You remember that there was a conversation about maybe PETA didn't want it to happen anymore or something. Something like that.
- [190:36]
Ty Schmidt
They're trying to get rid of Groundhog Day.
- [190:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think that was something I heard. Maybe there's a little bit of an uproar about the treatment of said groundhog. This living real nice.
- [190:44]
Boston Connor
Oh, yeah, exactly.
- [190:46]
Pat McAfee
Living real nice. And I'm about sick of it. Seeing a shadow and calling for winter for another six weeks. But that's what it does. It's like DiNardo. It's more accurate than that. How do you.
- [190:54]
Boston Connor
Whoa, Whoa.
- [190:56]
Pat McAfee
Groundhog's been throwing a pretty good game. Remember, we want to better than dinardo.
- [191:01]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [191:01]
Darius J. Butler
Joke.
- [191:02]
Boston Connor
Go.
- [191:02]
Pat McAfee
I agree. Joe said it wouldn't. It did. But this groundhog, the last, what, six years? We want it to lose its head and its life every single Groundhog Day. And then we're waiting, what, five, six weeks later. And guess what? Still winner.
- [191:14]
Boston Connor
He's right.
- [191:16]
Pat McAfee
What's this groundhog's name?
- [191:19]
Ty Schmidt
Staten Island Chuck. Staten Island Chuck is the imposter.
- [191:23]
Pat McAfee
Well, there's. Oh, then they brought a lady in too, I think. Phyllis. Right. Pucks Phyllis.
- [191:27]
Boston Connor
Because Phil's getting really. Yeah, Phil wants to.
- [191:30]
Ty Schmidt
So we.
- [191:30]
Pat McAfee
That's kind of what they said.
- [191:31]
Boston Connor
So Phil did.
- [191:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And then low Phil came out.
- [191:34]
AP Tone
Yep.
- [191:34]
Pat McAfee
And I think there was something about the treatment, but these guys were living like kings and queens. Obviously, Phyllis, but Groundhog Day, good movie. Till it's not a good movie. Especially if you're living in it. Tone, is this guy accurate? Do you think this is an overreaction or not?
- [191:46]
Ty Schmidt
Let me start with saying this. It's tough to win football games in the NFL.
- [191:49]
Pat McAfee
That's right.
- [191:50]
Boston Connor
Well said.
- [191:51]
Ty Schmidt
Especially on the road. Steelers went and did that, but no, they looked the exact same. Couldn't really block anybody. Statistically, they have the worst third and fourth down defense in the entire NFL. But they forced a lot of turnovers. So if you could force four to five turnovers per game, I think they're going to be fine. Aaron Rodgers is awesome. Like, he's. He's been great.
- [192:17]
Boston Connor
He.
- [192:18]
Ty Schmidt
He. There's pressure in his face every single play. He made two of the greatest throws. That one to obviously dk. DK has been awesome too. And then the one to Calvin Austin, the winner later in the game. The back shoulder throw was just so pretty. Aaron's been great. He just has no time and the defense can't get off the field nor stop the run. So. So, yeah, I think the guy's pretty accurate.
- [192:40]
Pat McAfee
Five turnovers.
- [192:41]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [192:42]
Boston Connor
It's not bad.
- [192:43]
Pat McAfee
That's great.
- [192:43]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [192:44]
Pat McAfee
Down in the end zone, Ben. But don't break. Actually get the ball back. No points. These Steelers fans. I saw Caboli say these guys are never happy talking about you guys. That's what Kaboli entire because we're a smart fan base.
- [192:57]
Ty Schmidt
We have eyes and we can tell if a team is a contender or not.
- [193:01]
Boston Connor
So.
- [193:01]
Pat McAfee
And you don't think they're a contender?
- [193:02]
Boston Connor
No, unfortunately not.
- [193:03]
Pat McAfee
Oh, no. Damn.
- [193:06]
Ty Schmidt
Not as of week three.
- [193:08]
Pat McAfee
All right.
- [193:08]
Darius J. Butler
Made the super bowl ball.
- [193:10]
Ty Schmidt
They get better.
- [193:11]
Darius J. Butler
And the stop the rumble. How do they do stuff.
- [193:13]
Pat McAfee
Agreed.
- [193:14]
Ty Schmidt
They can get better.
- [193:15]
Pat McAfee
They won.
- [193:17]
Darius J. Butler
Remind you that four for 18.
- [193:19]
Ty Schmidt
Well and very. It was nice to hear Vrabel say this weekend though. They have a lot of great players over there. We just know exactly where they're going to be and what they're going to do on every play.
- [193:25]
Pat McAfee
So FR said that about the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- [193:27]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [193:28]
Pat McAfee
And then they literally just leave 14 points on the board because of a fumble. Frable probably said we beat that team, but he has to go tell the boys they gave that one away. Five turnovers. Tough stuff.
- [193:39]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [193:39]
AP Tone
Hold on to the fucking ball, Mike.
- [193:41]
Pat McAfee
How about that?
- [193:41]
AP Tone
People in Boston are not happy this morning because there has been a side by side graphic of Gerard Mayo and Mike Vrabel that has hit the Internet and they have the same record. One and two to start. Except Frable's team has about 20 more penalties and about six more turnovers.
- [194:01]
Boston Connor
Oh, there it is, boy.
- [194:03]
AP Tone
Oh no.
- [194:05]
Pat McAfee
14 more penalties, five more turnovers.
- [194:08]
Boston Connor
Five of them.
- [194:11]
AP Tone
The. The biggest difference here though is one of them isn't just a complete doofus. And the other one's Mike Frable.
- [194:19]
Boston Connor
What?
- [194:20]
Darius J. Butler
Don't talk about former teammate like that.
- [194:22]
Boston Connor
Oh, no, no.
- [194:23]
AP Tone
Okay, my bad. The other one. Put the graphic back up.
- [194:28]
Darius J. Butler
Numbers don't lie. Okay. I don't want to hear weird fucking feelings. What are the numbers?
- [194:32]
Boston Connor
Okay.
- [194:32]
AP Tone
Numbers don't lie. So at the end of the season, if Vrabel is, I don't know, 5 and 12, then we can say it was right.
- [194:39]
Pat McAfee
I do wonder about some of this. Turnovers, penalties, you name it. Like that seems abnormal for a variable operation.
- [194:46]
AP Tone
Absolutely. The fumbles for Ramandra Stevenson. No, he has more touch. He has more fumbles than touchdowns in the last two years. So that's expected. That's kind of why a lot of people thought he would be a cap casualty. Because he's been doing this for fucking ever. But the other. The other parts.
- [195:03]
Pat McAfee
We had him on our fantasy team last year.
- [195:04]
AP Tone
The other parts of it you draft and we don't this year. Like, like Drake May and we're good this year. Drake May's very good. Two and one. Drake Mays fumble. That's just a rookie mistake. Like that's the stuff you expect to see, but that's also the stuff you would rather see this year and have all the rookies in doing their rookie shit than having vets in who are getting paid doing rookie things. But no, aside from that. I mean, Tony. Me, me. Tony and Nick talked a little after the game. It's. It's Very easy to feel better about the Patriots today than it is the Steelers.
- [195:35]
Pat McAfee
Okay. How many years is Drake a rookie?
- [195:38]
Boston Connor
What do you mean?
- [195:40]
Pat McAfee
Well, just.
- [195:41]
AP Tone
Oh, the rookie mistake thing.
- [195:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [195:42]
AP Tone
I mean, he only made it through five games last year. So if Anthony Richardson, him as a rookie for the first three years of his career, I think we can give Drake 16, 17 games and then I'm with it.
- [195:52]
Pat McAfee
I'm on your side, by the way.
- [195:54]
AP Tone
Yeah. Oh, I know, I know.
- [195:55]
Pat McAfee
I'm on your side. I picked the Patriots.
- [195:56]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Yeah. And he.
- [195:58]
AP Tone
And he looks unbelievable. It was just like, hey, Drake, little. Little Carl Wentz here, right? Three guys on top of you. You're trying to shovel. Pass it three yards forward. Let's just take a sack on first down and live to fight another too.
- [196:09]
Pat McAfee
Good of an ass.
- [196:10]
Darius J. Butler
What quarter was that?
- [196:11]
AP Tone
That was the fourth quarter.
- [196:12]
Boston Connor
Oh. Oh.
- [196:12]
Darius J. Butler
So this is post concussion play by Herbic.
- [196:16]
AJ Hawk
Great hustle play by Herbig, though it.
- [196:17]
Ty Schmidt
Was in his defense. He slammed his head off the turf harder than maybe any human being's ever done so before. Yeah, it was a Wisconsin badger sandwich.
- [196:25]
AP Tone
Yeah. And then did you see him. Did you see him crying after the play? That was the hardest part, is that he was stayed on the ground. Kind of complained about the unk.
- [196:34]
Ty Schmidt
Didn't even think about taking him out of the game.
- [196:36]
AP Tone
No, no, they did the. On picked up the uncle, grabbed the phone, but Drake May's daddy was sitting right next to me, said, you better put that phone down so my boy ain't coming out of this game.
- [196:46]
Pat McAfee
His uncle said, all right, let's get to our picks. We have faith in Drake. I have faith. I. I appreciate his toughness as well and the fact that he's the best athlete on the field. So he wants to make every play happen. These are young player mistakes. It feels like Patriots fans are expecting that Steelers get a win. Still not happy. Love that. Let's go to tonight, A.J. you and I both not seeing the board. Exactly. Well, D. Butch said he isn't either. Four and a half point favorites are the Baltimore Ravens at home. Peter Schrager's there. Look like the backdrop was wonderful.
- [197:18]
Boston Connor
Yeah.
- [197:19]
Pat McAfee
Look like there was a little bit of a lighter filter on him, too. I wonder if the sun was just hitting at a certain light that was kind of bright. Brightening up Our Peter Schrager, our Emmy award winner, to let us know that tonight is going to be all about the big lights. Tonight it's going to be all about the stars over under 53 and a half. Tonight it's going to be electrifying. D. Bu. You can go first here, pal. Do you like Detroit or Baltimore? With Baltimore favored by four and a half. Wait, I guess, is there any other lines?
- [197:43]
Ty Schmidt
It's four and a half across the board. There is. 64% of the money is on Baltimore and 78% is on the over D Buck.
- [197:50]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, I'm, I'm, I love, love that over. I'm sure it'll be some great touchdown parlays putting together tonight. Also love Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. I think they win this and I think they win it handily. I know the Detroit Lions put up a bunch of points last week, last week against the Bears, but I think Baltimore shows up. What was his record against NFC? 24 2. And I think 10 and 2 on Monday night Football. Something crazy like that.
- [198:14]
AP Tone
Something like that.
- [198:15]
Pat McAfee
That's correct. 24 and two against the NFC.
- [198:17]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, I'm going with Lamar and the Ravens.
- [198:19]
Pat McAfee
How do you feel foxy about Darius Butler saying, yeah, one of these teams really good. The other team was good last. No, I don't blame D butt at all because my brain has been saying all week that this one could be bad. And I, I don't love that. But the last time they played, we lost 38 to 6 and it was one of the worst games I've seen under the MCDC era. But with that being said, my heart is saying maybe we ground and palm this thing. Maybe we stretch the game out, make it short, run, run the ball, nine minute possessions, score touchdowns. The Ravens don't even get the ball. And then I'll tell you guys, this one, this is what the stars are saying tonight. We have a waxing crescent moon. The Detroit Lions are 9 and 1 with a waxing crescent moon. I'll just leave that. What are the Ravens? What are the Ravens? I don't have that information. Interesting.
- [199:09]
AP Tone
60. You know, they've never lost.
- [199:10]
Boston Connor
Interesting.
- [199:13]
Pat McAfee
My brain has been telling me this could be bad. Yeah. I don't know know why my brain's saying that. I don't like that. My brain's saying that. That's basically what foxy just said. 100. I think we should witness. My heart's like, yeah. And then all of a sudden my brain's like, shut up, dude. This is going to be a blow. The matchup's just so bad and the Ravens are so good. We have a very tough schedule this year. I would say this is the toughest game all year long in Baltimore Monday night. It's just very, very difficult.
- [199:38]
Darius J. Butler
And according to AI. 7 and 2 on Monday Night Football. 20. 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions.
- [199:44]
Pat McAfee
Who's that?
- [199:45]
Darius J. Butler
Lamar Jackson.
- [199:46]
Pat McAfee
Okay, pretty good.
- [199:47]
AJ Hawk
Pretty good.
- [199:48]
Pat McAfee
AJ who do you like? How do you like it?
- [199:51]
AJ Hawk
I was waffling a bit, honestly, until I heard Debun. Deba just confirmed what I was leaning towards all along. Give me Baltimore -4 and a half at home.
- [199:59]
Pat McAfee
Yep. And we're both ass picking the spread this weekend. So it doesn't matter what happens in this game. I'll do a team ride for all. Rolling. I'll do a team ride with you. AFC North. Even though I like the NFC north and I like the Lions, I like the Ravens a lot. I like Lamar Jackson a lot. A lot. And I hope Chuck Pagano has a great Monday night Football experience. Man, mcdc, though.
- [200:21]
Ty Schmidt
Chuck was watching the show.
- [200:22]
AP Tone
Yeah, I was gonna say four and a half. So Chuck's a pretty large number. Chase at home team that just put.
- [200:30]
Darius J. Butler
Up 50 home record this week.
- [200:33]
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah, 12 and three home teams.
- [200:35]
Ty Schmidt
I want to alt spread the Ravens to nine and a half.
- [200:39]
Pat McAfee
Ton. Really likes the Ravens. All right, so who's this for?
- [200:43]
AP Tone
I like it.
- [200:43]
Darius J. Butler
Gotta be for the Lions.
- [200:44]
Ty Schmidt
For the Lions, yeah.
- [200:45]
Darius J. Butler
Lions, yeah. Need a logo to break it up.
- [200:47]
Pat McAfee
Uh oh, that might do that. Oh, all right. Sweet. I'm taking the Ravens.
- [200:52]
Boston Connor
Boom.
- [200:53]
Pat McAfee
All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Never forget it. We got a big one tomorrow. Overreacting everything that happens tonight with BA in studio.
- [201:01]
Boston Connor
Yeah. Hell yeah.
- [201:02]
Pat McAfee
Anybody got anything? What a weekend.
- [201:04]
Ty Schmidt
Hell of a.
- [201:05]
Boston Connor
Fantastic.
- [201:06]
AP Tone
Enjoy. Enjoy this prime time game.
- [201:08]
Boston Connor
Okay, good one.
- [201:09]
AP Tone
Don't have. You never know when they're going to be good. And even the ones that are on the schedule, quarterbacks might get hurt. So we got two healthy teams, two healthy offenses. Enjoy some points.
- [201:18]
Pat McAfee
Team on me, team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.
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Ty Schmidt
You've seen the headlines, heard the debates.
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Boston Connor
The three point ball has created a monotonous rhythm to the game. Has the three pointer ruined basketball?
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Pat McAfee
And how did we get here?
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Boston Connor
The rise of the three point shot can be partially traced to an eccentric Kansas genius named Martin Manley, whose story didn't turn out quite the way he imagined. I decided I wanted to have one.
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Pat McAfee
Of the most organized goodbyes in history.
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