PMS 2.0 1420 - Watt Wednesday, In The Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Kyle Schwarber, Cal Raleigh, & AJ Hawk

Summary

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 #1420 - “Watt Wednesday,” In the Trenches, Everything DB, MLB Playoff Special

Date: October 1, 2025
Host: Pat McAfee
Guests/Regulars: AJ Hawk, Ty Schmidt, Boston Connor, Tone Digs, Darius Butler, AQ Shipley, J.J. Watt, Kyle Schwarber, Cal Raleigh

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Episode Overview

On this "Watt Wednesday," Pat McAfee and the crew break tradition by kicking off the show with an extended, hype-fueled discussion of the MLB postseason—inviting All-Star sluggers Kyle Schwarber (Phillies) and Cal Raleigh (Mariners) on to talk about October baseball, the new intra-squad postseason scrimmages, and fan-fueled stadium atmospheres. NFL news—including the Cleveland Browns’ QB drama, in-depth offensive line and secondary analysis, and a spirited rivalry debate between Yankees and Red Sox fans—run through the show as usual. As always, the crew’s energy, jokes, and deep-insider sports perspective keep things both absurd and insightful.

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Main Themes

• MLB Postseason fever: Why the show opens with baseball in October and what makes this year different.
• Sports culture clashes: The MLB, NFL, and college football all in high-stakes overlap.
• Insider sports analysis: O-line breakdowns with AQ Shipley, secondary play with Darius Butler, and off-script hot takes from J.J. Watt.
• Athletes as humans: Stories about training regimens, family support, and the behind-the-scenes grind.

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MLB PLAYOFFS TAKE CENTER STAGE

[00:00 – 04:00]

• Pat (‘A’): “On this glorious Watt Wednesday…we’re doing baseball first! J.J. Watt coming up in 15 minutes, but we have to talk Mariners, Phillies, Yankees, Red Sox—Baseball is electrifying right now.”
• Pat explains the show is shifting the usual football-centric focus to MLB playoffs: Mariners’ Cal Raleigh joining (AL West champs for the first time since 2001) and Phillies’ Kyle Schwarber (55 HRs)—both scheduled for the second hour.

Notable Quote — Pat [01:34]
“Cal Raleigh, the MLB leader in Ding Dongs will be joining us…This guy basically has the plate surrounded and he is doing good things all the way around the ballpark.”

Schwarber’s Impact

• Ty Schmidt (‘D’) [03:09]: “Phillies might be a magical team every year, but this year just feels like something’s brewing.”

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MAJOR MLB STORYLINES & RIVALRIES

[04:00 – 14:20]

• Boston Connor (‘B’), Ty Schmidt (NY Yankees fan), and others recap the Red Sox’s wild card win over the Yankees—touching on ace performances (Crochet, 13 Ks), Judge’s controversial narrative, defensive woes, and bullpen mismanagement.
• Inside Analysis:
  • Pitch count analytics and postseason pitching philosophy
  • The psychological battle: rest vs. rust in playoff baseball
  • Moving stars up in the batting order for “more at-bats” (Shohei, Schwarber leadoff discussion)
  • The “Ding Dong” culture: home runs as the currency of October

Notable Quote — Ty on Judge [08:47]
“He has a cannon. Yeah. His typical throw from the outfield is, like, around 90 miles an hour, and he threw that, like, 75.”

[13:18] — Ty on Postseason Pitching:
“When you’re paying a guy 200 plus million dollars, like, guess what? He can throw more than 100 pitches. Okay. He’s not 14 years old.”

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NFL UPDATES AND QUARTERBACK DRAMA

[15:25 – 21:22]

Cleveland Browns QB Change (Dylan Gabriel)

Pat [15:26]: “Dylan Gabriel starting for the Browns, third round pick out of Oregon…what if he’s the answer?”

• Analysis by Darius Butler (‘C’) and AQ Shipley (‘B’): undersized QBs in NFL, O-line fit, Stefanski’s offense, comparisons to Drew Brees, and the reality of batted balls.
• O-line breakdown: “Botonio, Pochic, Wyatt Teller are as good as any three in the league.”

Notable Quote — J.J. Watt [23:26]:
“My thoughts are, I hope he’s great. I would love for the Cleveland Browns jersey with all the quarterbacks’ names on the back if you retired. It would be fun to have a guy just end it and you could just have one jersey with one name. So hopefully that’s Gabriel...”

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JJ WATT INTERVIEW – NFL & LIFE STORIES

[21:22 – 55:03]

Augusta Stories, Youth Training, Food, and Family

• JJ shares about his Augusta trip, childhood “gallon of milk a day” and “two meals for every meal” upbringing, and the relentless grind required to become a pro athlete.

Notable Moment [28:10]:
“It was two breakfasts, two lunches, two dinners every day, and it was the gallon of milk a day for the household.” — JJ Watt

• On coaching and color commentary: Debate with AQ Shipley over OL “dominating” blocks; inside jokes about “wrecking ball” runs and the finer points of the trench game.

On International Games and NFL Scheduling

• Discussion of NFL Dublin game, pub crawl ideas, and the strain of extended international travel.

On Bijan Robinson for MVP:

• JJ: “Just dynamic. It’s incredible to watch him play...if the Falcons can get on a little roll...there’s certainly conversation that should be starting around Bijan Robinson and that tier of that MVP level.”

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“IN THE TRENCHES” & NFL O-LINE/DEFENSE BREAKDOWNS

[134:13] – [145:57]

• AQ Shipley’s top 5 O-lines of the week: Broncos, Falcons, Jaguars, Bills, Lions.
• Focus: physical dominance, “the nastiness coming back,” innovative schemes, and situational execution.
• Darius Butler’s “Everything DB”: leverages, picks, and secondary schemes.

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BASEBALL INSIDER SEGMENTS

Kyle Schwarber (Phillies) Interview — [71:58 – 90:31]

• Discusses postseason intensity, training through the bye (“we have an inter-squad game tonight…30,000 people are watching us play intersquad”), and the challenge of keeping momentum.
• Approach at the plate: importance of routine, mental game, and trusting fundamentals.

Notable Quote [79:10]:
“Just be you and see what happens. Because you’re good. You’re already good enough.” — Kyle Schwarber

• Pat offers “Ding Dong Donations” for every home run hit in the scrimmage.

Cal Raleigh (Mariners) Interview — [92:45 – 107:37]

• Mariners' postseason buzz, Ichiro Suzuki joining practice as a right fielder, pressure and hometown hype.
• Insight on catching, oblique training, swing mechanics, and balancing defensive catch demands with offensive output.

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RIVALRY TRASH TALK — RED SOX vs. YANKEES

Throughout the show, notably: [04:08], [109:00+], [132:13]

• Ty’s bristling over bullpen management, fans razzing Judge/narratives, Bruce Brown’s hopeful but anxious take, Boston Connor’s swagger.
• Historical context, playoff format complaints, and jokes about "Mickey Mouse" rules and Sinatra as the Boston anthem.

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NFL WEEKEND PREVIEW & COLLEGE FOOTBALL CHAT

[156:34+]

• Thursday night: Rams vs. Niners highlighted as a “big, big, big game.”
• Concerns about the slate of games: “People saying it’s a shite slate, but let’s remember football always delivers.”
• College GameDay update: Alabama hosting Vanderbilt for the first time, conversation on tradition and the show’s cultural impact.

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POP CULTURE SIDETRACKS & TECH

• Shifting Gears (Home Improvement cast reunion; Tim Allen, ABC)
• Super Bowl halftime show debate (Bad Bunny as rumored performer—global audience and culture clash)
• New iPhone review: high praise for camera, quirks in user interface.

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Notable Quotes, Jokes, and Moments

Baseball

• Pat on Shohei Ohtani [61:08]:
  “This Shohei guy somehow with fire literally burning around him personally and in the stadiums...he performs. He is the one.”

• On postseason homers:
  “Hit Ding Dongs, don’t be a Ding Dong.” — Pat, [80:44]/[86:23]
  Schwarber: “First off, what we’re trying to do, don’t look like a Ding Dong at the plate, but hit Ding Dongs. But don’t be a Ding Dong.”

NFL

• J.J. Watt on short QBs:
  “Batting passes is so rare. Even if you’re one of the best in the league at it, it still happens so rarely. You might get two in a game, but that’s not going to decide if Dylan Gabriel’s a great quarterback or not.” [25:25]

• On offensive linemen:

• “AQ, JJ saying, hey, maybe let’s not be glorifying things that maybe most people could do. Dion Dawkins has a lot of other tape we should celebrate.” — Pat [42:07]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–04:00 — Show cold open & MLB Playoff intro
• 07:25–13:43 — Yankee/Red Sox pitching analytics, Judge’s injury talk
• 15:25–21:22 — Browns QB change & analysis
• 21:22–55:03 — J.J. Watt interview (Augusta stories, eating, family, coaching, MVP race)
• 71:58–90:31 — Kyle Schwarber interview
• 92:45–107:37 — Cal Raleigh interview
• 134:13–145:57 — In the Trenches: Top NFL O-lines
• 184:01–196:42 — Everything DB: Defensive breakdown
• 156:34+ — Rams-Niners TNF preview, weekend outlook

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Tone & Vibe

• Unscripted, high-energy locker room banter with deep sports-insider knowledge
• Swinging between analytical, irreverent, and motivational (“just be you—you’re already good enough”)

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For Listeners Who Missed It

• The usual football talk is upstaged by unique, in-depth baseball postseason coverage—including first-hand insight from stars in the thick of it.
• NFL fans get QB controversies, O-line/DB masterclasses, and input from Hall of Famers and legends.
• If you love sports culture—playoff drama, trash talk, the grind behind the scenes—this episode delivers wall-to-wall.
• Don’t miss the athlete stories (JJ’s food/childhood) and bold, funny MLB/NFL player interviews that make the Pat McAfee Show a one-of-a-kind crossover of sports talk, analysis, and entertainment.

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Bonus

If you want a microcosm of the show’s personality and message:

• “Hit Ding Dongs, don’t be a Ding Dong.”
• “Football always delivers—even when the slate looks shite.”
• “We’re lucky to talk about this every day. Just be you, that’s enough.”

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For more, check out the full show or patmcafeeshow.com.

Transcript

[A]

We are. Hello, beautiful people. Full graphics failure launches, full system failure. Obviously everybody will be able to figure that out on this glorious watt. Wednesday, October 1, 2025. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. The program today is stacked. We got J.J. watt joining us in about 15 minutes or so. Now normally he's in the second hour.

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

He comes to the first hour strictly because in the second hour we're doing baseball. Whoa, whoa. We're doing baseball. Listen, now it's nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler hitting a. Whoa, right there. Which is an accurate response I think, because this is out of the norm. Don't you think so, D bus.

[C]

Very much so. I know we didn't get our football in the day, so I guess, I mean, still starting with we get some baseball.

[A]

Yeah, we do. Yeah. And that's why, that's why the beginning of the show was what it was. Because what you normally think of this show, especially this time of year, I mean, it's October 1st.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Rabbit, rabbit to everybody out there. These guys are only gonna be talking about football, especially if they got J.J. watts scheduled to be in there. But baseball is electrifying. And guess who we're talking to? 12 year NFL vet, Super bowl champion AQ Shipley. AQ, do you know who we're talking to in the baseball world in the second hour?

[B]

Am I allowed to say it?

[A]

Oh, so you do know. You say it.

[B]

Okay, I do know who.

[A]

Okay, okay, say, say who you think that's two people. I'll be excited to see who he says first. Who is the guy that we get a chance to chat with in a second hour?

[B]

The big dumper.

[A]

Cal Raleigh. That's right. Cal Rawley, the MLB leader in Ding Dongs will be joining us in the next hour. Obviously Seattle Mariner superstar. They've won the AL west for the first time since 2001. Boom.

[D]

Look at you.

[A]

So what Cal Rawley has done not only on both sides of the plate, but also behind the plate. This guy basically has the plate surrounded and he is doing good things on all the way around the ballpark. He'll be joining us for what he is, I assume dubbed a special season for a player, for a town, for a team, for a legacy, for a storyline going into obviously a beautiful playoffs that started yesterday in fantastic way. And then, oh yeah, we got the second leader in home runs in the mlb. In mlb. Sorry, Kyle Schwarbo.

[C]

Both of them.

[A]

Yeah. Philadelphia Philly Superstore. Yeah, he's been There for a few years. Obviously schwarbow hit himself 50 something dongs.

[D]

55.

[A]

55 ding dongs this year. And this guy is a monster. He's 32 years old. I got a chance to see him whenever he came down to Indiana for college game day and made the picks, he was fantastic there. Obviously goes to the Cubs, fantastic there. He's been here Now I think three years. I believe at this point he's 32 years old. He's a Dharma. And what he's designated to do is succeed. And he's only getting better, it feels like. And this Phillies team, real deal. Let's go to the toxic table at Ty Schmidt. Shout out to baseball having a huge wild card day. And shout out to toxic tables at Boston Conner in the Boston Red Sox getting a huge win over your New York Yankees. But can we talk about Schwarbo a little bit? Joining us in the next hour. Phillies might be a magical team every single year. This year does have some brewing, it feels like.

[D]

Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, everyone's look, especially after last night, seeing what the Dodgers did, they just beat the absolute out of the red. So everyone's saying, hey, who could beat the Dodgers in the nl? If anyone's gonna do it or the team that most most likely will do it, it's going to be the Phillies. You're seeing all these different shots from Schwarber here. When this guy hits homers, he doesn't just, you know, hit a little cheapy two, three rows into the seats like he's hitting balls 500ft into the night. Deep, deep, deep. They're a very deep lineup. They have good pitching, one of the big things. And I'll be interested to see what these guys have to say about it. Baseball is such a sprint. You're playing so well and then the playoffs start and you get like a week off almost while all these other wild card teams, you know, are battling out to see who's going to play teams like the Phillies and the Mariners. So it's very interesting when these guys, him and Cal rally are as hot as they are like now, you just got to sit and wait a week, kind of. Which kind of goes against everything that you want in baseball. When you're hot, you just want to play, play, play. So we'll see.

[A]

Rest and rush situation. You know, last night and yesterday as a whole, baseball had a huge wild card. Yeah. In the headline with a lot of people that maybe don't have rooting interest for any of these teams. Red Sox, Yankees, Battling and I'll tell you what, it was a great day to be a Red Sox. What a time for the Boston Red Sox to knock off the Yankees in a best of three series. Are the Yankees about to be. Are they yet chance. They're nine innings away potentially from their season being over because of the Boston Red Sox. Connor, I know you haven't been following this Red Sox team all season. True. But let's say you had followed the headlines. You were very optimistic about this Red Sox team. Maybe next year young team going forward. Are they about to gritty their way to a massive upset over the Yankees here in the wild card?

[B]

I think maybe from the outside world.

[A]

You would think it's massive. But as someone who's followed the team, it's not massive. You know this team is built for this. Garrett Crochet once again. I mean he's punching everybody out. 13Ks I think seven and two thirds. I mean this guy's a student.

[C]

Ty.

[A]

I. I gotta, I gotta say he called.

[B]

Aaron Judge is the greatest right handed hitter of all time. He hit two of the hardest singles I've ever seen last night.

[A]

What's that called? Bat speed?

[D]

No, that's exit vlog.

[A]

Dude, you should have seen it. It's the highest single, man, they had three of them in the night. I don't know if you saw the.

[B]

End, but they had three right off.

[A]

The bat in the ninth inning. Single, single.

[B]

Single.

[A]

Everyone's like singles are back. I'm worried. All of a sudden or all this, Chapman comes out. We remember him from Pittsburgh at his grandma's house. All of a sudden we say, oh, there's a chance we might be screwed. The bases are juice, not us dating. Sit down buddy. You can't hit a curve. Jazz Chisholm actually really, really fun to watch. He's sweet. Pop out though. It doesn't really matter. And then of course.

[D]

What'd you say?

[C]

Why didn't he start?

[A]

Sorry, there was a lot of time on a field after. That's just. People are asking and then. See you later.

[B]

Top left, high chees. Hell they call it.

[A]

Who cares? Socks are going to win. 101 to end it. Had a 92 mile an hour slider in the same inning. I guess Chapman obviously a weapon there to close it out. Let's go to Ty Schmidt, New York Yankees diehard super fan. I'll tell you, I didn't want to point it out. The Internet had been doing.

[D]

Yeah, sure. Yep. We do it again. We did it. We did about 40 minutes ago. I Can try to remember everything I said. We can, we can kind of run it back.

[A]

Do it. I woke up this morning. I fell asleep. I didn't see the end of these games. I was. I literally Woke up like 4:35. Okay. Felt pretty good. I'm becoming a morning person. I'm actually kind of enjoying Hell yeah. There's like a routine in the morning. I'm doing this whole thing openx first now blame my AI.

[D]

Sure.

[A]

You blame Eli his platform. You blame sports for being the most talked about thing on there. You can blame a lot of stuff. The first thing I saw was a tweet. A lot of views on it. Lot of views on it going anyway. Judge is a liability for the Yankees. It was the seventh inning and I don't even know why they were blaming him for this. But it felt like it was a narrative that was starting last night. He goes 2 for 4. Conor already chatted about that. He is Aaron Judge. But why was this the narrative coming out of last night? I would genuinely like to know why that is an angle that people are.

[D]

Pitching into this because that the. Well, the Yankees defense as a whole is like their biggest weakness. And it kind of like in the playoffs a lot of times when you're facing these good pitchers like crochet, you can't just go out and hit five homers every single night. And out homer teams which is kind of the. When the Yankees are at their best, that's their recipe. So they do this kind of stuff with the defense all the time like letting teams to basically just take another base which typically there you're thinking like that's a, that's a routine single to the outfield. You can't let that guy stretch that into two. So guard. They actually said that from home to, to second. That was the fastest he's ever ran that. So there's a little, you know, a little juice for the postseason.

[A]

Made a play.

[D]

But. Yeah, exactly. But the biggest issue is Judge has a flexor strain in his elbow. And that was kind of what all Yankees fans were worried about when he went on IL like three, four weeks ago. And they basically said like hey, if you really uncork one in the outfield there's a chance you could have Tommy John. And for a guy like Judge, like the Yankees can't lose him. If they lose him for a prolonged period of time, they will go right into the. It's happened multiple times. So that's the, that's the big thing. They're saying, well he's a liability in the outfield, you can't DH him because they have Stanton, so he has to play the outfield. And the question is. And the Red Sox, like, advanced scouting, they knew that. It's like, hey, if we have guys on base and there's a ball hit out to judge, like, let. We got to test his arm. We got to see if he can.

[A]

Actually do it, because he's known for having a massive.

[D]

He has a cannon. He has a cannon. Yeah. And I think they said, like, the. His typical throw from the outfield is, like, around 90 miles an hour, and he threw that, like, 75.

[C]

Damn.

[D]

So, like, it is a bit of a concern, but I think he also picks and chooses because you also look at it, it's like, yeah, that's. That's huge. To get that in quick. At this point, they're still up 1 0. But then, you know, bullpen's got to get outs. You know, you can't rely on, why.

[A]

Did you guys lose? Let's talk. Because you're up 10 for a long time, obviously, in the seventh is whenever they end up taking the lead.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You also pull your pitcher, I believe, at that exact time as well. Guy who had a shot out.

[D]

Yeah, correct. Max Freed, who The Yankees paid $218 million for in the off season. He's one of the best pitchers in baseball. He led the majors in wins this year, and he was just steamrolling through the Red Sox. I mean, crochet. What he was doing was unbelievable. And, you know, Freed was. He was. He was a little bit better because the Yankees had a 10 lead going into the seventh. It's what we talked about it a little bit out there. The analytics in baseball now, for whatever reason, when pitchers get to 100 pitches, it's kind of like, okay, we got it. This is going to be his last inning. We can't let this guy go any longer. We can't, you know, jeopardize his arm. So Freed gets an out in the top of the seventh. He throws six and a third. They take him out and bring in Luke Weaver from the bullpen, who has been absolutely horseshit almost the entire month of September. What are we doing? That's kind of a boon master class is what a lot of people were saying. So he gets in there, he walks his first batter, which you can't do. You can't give any teams free bases. You're a reliever, throw strikes. Don't throw, you know, four balls that aren't competitive at all. And a guy's not going to swing at. So he walks that guy and then we have the judge play. So now they got second and third with one out. But, but still okay, hey, that's not a big deal. You know you can limit this to maybe a sack fly and we'll get out of this one one and then we'll kind of the. The game starts over again. That didn't happen. The Yoshida pinches hit pinch hits. They get a base hit right away, score two more runs and then because the way the Yankees set everything up, they didn't want to play guys like Jazz Chisholm because he's left handed and Crochet is left handed in the splits. Like just those guys are not. You don't want to have a lefty on lefty matchups. But the Yankees had multiple guys on the bench. Hey, if we want to pinch hit we have this kind of situation. Well never got to that. So it kind of played right into the Red Sox hands. So you got, you go from their unbelievable starting pitcher to Aroldis Chapman who is also left handed and then you get, you know, three batters who. Oh no, we got three lefties. This is exactly what we didn't want to happen and we couldn't use any of our guys on the bench who were really good. So the Yankees really threw that one away. Boone got out. Managed big time by Alex Cora. But, but it's a three game series and I think most Yankees fans would say like if we were going to lose a game it was going to be that one. Crochet is unbelievable. You hate to waste that kind of start from Max Freed. But now you know, like do you want to just be chokers? Your backs are against the wall.

[A]

Oh no.

[D]

So gotten win.

[A]

Oh no. This is a Yankee fan potentially. Boy. No, I'm here.

[D]

I'm very, I'm very confident.

[A]

We are witnessing it. Let's go to the behind the glass. Bruce Brown, lifelong Yankees fan as well. Bruce. Boston Red Sox about to wreck the Yankees season. This oh no, it's a tough loss at home. You, you drop the pitching duel. Obviously they're, they're Ace Crochet played, played outstanding. But no, you go out Tonight, you win 8 to 4 with Radon on the bump.

[D]

Carlito, he'll get the job done.

[A]

And then we go to game three.

[D]

We got Schlitler and or Bluegill against a rookie for the Red Sox. Who's that dog?

[A]

Who's who is good.

[D]

But, but I, I still like our guys. I, I think it's all Right in front of us.

[C]

As Aaron Boone has said a thousand.

[D]

Times when we struggled. Yep. Throughout the year. Obviously have to have it tonight, but I'm.

[A]

I'm not ready to freak out.

[D]

And I also take solace in Garrett.

[A]

Cole's out this year. He missed the entire year.

[D]

Don't do that.

[A]

Don't do that. Don't do that.

[E]

We are.

[A]

Don't do that. We are a mere. A mere few months away.

[D]

Don't do that. Don't do Garrett Cole, Paul Skeens, Max freed and number 28.

[C]

Next year.

[A]

All right. The Cubs hit back to back. Jackson get a big time win for them. That looked like an electrifying environment. Shout out to the Cubbies getting one from Slam Diego. Do they play again today as well?

[D]

Yep, everybody plays again today. Same times.

[A]

All right, good luck. Talk. Go ahead.

[C]

Are the Aces. I know we talked about that ace duel in the Red Sox Yankees matchup, but are the aces in general throwing like, longer now?

[D]

No, not really. I mean, some guys, and I think that that's my biggest gripe is it's the postseason. Like this isn't the. The middle of May where like, sure, I could see that a guy's thrown a bunch of pitches. Let's get him out and go for the. Like, it's do or die right now. These are three game series. Like, you need to do whatever you can to win these games. And when you're paying a guy 200 plus million dollars, like, guess what? He can throw more than 100 pitches. Okay. He's not 14 years old.

[A]

Your guy at 103 pitch.

[D]

102.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And crochet threw 117. And I was kind of just thinking like, okay, well, if you give Max freed 15 more pitches, he probably gets out of that seventh inning and they're still up one nothing. And then you can go to your, you know, your really high leverage relievers in the bullpen. So, I mean, again, a lot of Monday morning quarterback. This can all be erased if you just go win, which is what they got to do.

[A]

Okay, well, good luck to them because the Red Sox fans are saying, we thought it was football season. Oh, we had no ide. Yeah, we're still in baseball. Drake base. But wait, no baseball. That's crazy for you guys. I'm very excited in the whole Aaron Judge thing. He's out there. Okay, guys, got a noodle arm now.

[B]

Let's just do it.

[A]

I don't care if he's hurt. He's got a noodle arm. He hits the Ball country mile. But boy, oh boy, it's bad. We need to be hitting. We need to be. Yeah.

[B]

Slap the ball the other way.

[A]

Jets is basically what Judge is doing. No, we. Yeah, they need to be hitting it. The righties need to be throwing that thing. Right.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Bingo.

[A]

Lefties need to be pulling that thing to right.

[B]

Great call. I bet Cor is telling them today because obviously you heard Cor is a.

[A]

Thousand times better than Boom. From the Yankees fans.

[B]

Core is going to let him know.

[A]

We'Re Pepper and Judge today. He said they actually did already know that. That that kind of was part of the.

[B]

But today.

[A]

No, no. Per sources. You know, we have sources all over. Per sources. Cora, today is like, let's do it even more. No, I. I don't think you're. What? Who are your sources? We would like you to out your sources. Why the hell would I do that? Well, let's just drop the journalism tag for a second. I know you try your best to be that. Let's just go ahead and share who we got the info from there through the grapevine.

[B]

Gumpy's current owner of his soccer club, John Henry. He actually former owner of the Red Sox.

[A]

All right, I appreciate that. Okay. There's some big news going on in the NFL world. The news was broken kind of yesterday afternoon, like 3:12. It was legitimized and officialized and formally announced by everybody else other than just CBS Sports. This morning, Dylan Gabriel starting for the Cleveland Browns. Third round pick. Here we go. Third round pick out of Oregon. Obviously we are incredibly pumped for Dylan Gabriel to get his first start this weekend. It'll be in London town against the Minnesota Vikings. And he can spin it. It feels like everybody loves him. His teammates love him. When he was at Oklahoma, they loved him. When he was at Oregon, they loved him. Obviously the way that whole thing end against Ohio State and a Rose bowl was nasty. I mean, that was. That was a nasty kind of ending to it all. That was supposed to be a very glorious year, which it certainly was for a large portion of it. And Dylan Gabriel, if he can execute the offense, why not? We saw Joe Flacco punt a couple times with his arm. We saw some bad Joe Flacco. Even though we had seen some great Joe Flacco for the Cleveland Browns a couple years back, feels like a quarterback change was inevitable. And with how good their defense is, I don't think it's over for this Cleveland Browns team. If Dylan Gabriel can come in there and play some ball, why not the Cleveland BROWNS in that AFC north, that'll be at 9:30am in London. You got Dylan Gabriel taking on Carson Wentz. Gabriel vs. Wentz ready to go down. Now remember, Dylan Gabriel is his size, which is certainly not the size of other quarterbacks. Certainly Carson Wentz, who is very tall. I mean, Carson is a big boy, large individual. But let's talk about Dylan Gabriel. And the only knock really is can he see? Can he, Is he going to be able to handle it all? How about some big time shots? We've seen undersized, and we're only saying undersized because in real life they're normal size, more athletic, more jacked than most people on a football field though at that particular position with who you're standing behind and who is trying to tackle you, size seemingly can matter, but there's been outliers well enough. Will Dylan Gabriel be another one of those guys in the NFL D bus?

[C]

We shall see. We saw him be successful at a high level at different stops in his college career. But yeah, that will be his knock and that'll be something he'll have to, you know, overcome throughout his entire career. Every quarterback gets balls batted down the line of scrimmage. But every time it'll happen to Dylan. They'll say, oh, maybe is this because he's 511 or whatever his height is. But we've seen him play good ball. His strength has been getting the ball out on time, being accurate, hitting guys. And once we saw that punt to Kirby Joseph, I think we all saw this kind of come. And even coming into the season, we all say, okay, they got the veteran Joe Flacco, he'll start the season off, see how far they can get him. And then you'll see what we got from the rookie quarterback. So he's getting his opportunity. This is when it happens. A lot of the times at that quarter mark when you're like, okay, you kind of reassess, reevaluate your team. We talked about the defense, we've been talking about them all year. You're going to have a chance every week trotting out that defense. So you, if you have an offense that could just move the ball down the field, put up some points, take care of the football, which Dylan Gabriel has shown he can do. Now we just got to see him do it on the highest level.

[A]

Yeah. So not only see him do it at the highest level, it's like also see him survive. Just, you know, being a quarterback in the NFL is very difficult.

[F]

Oh yeah.

[A]

And it's not just obviously defense is trying to pick you apart. I think Dylan Gabriel, obviously with the time he's had, the amount of different offenses he's played and how many different defenses he's played against, we assume he'll be able to digest what a defense is. But Patrick Mahomes said it wasn't until like his third year, second two and a half years that he didn't understand what was going on. So there's gonna be some big time shots. Okay. This is the NFL. There's big dudes that are going to give big shots. AQ Shipley here, obviously 12 year NFL offensive lineman, Remington Award winner at the Penn State University. Is there things that that offensive line is thinking with a guy who 5, 10, 5, 9, 5, 8, whatever it is, he's got cleats on, he's got 5, 8, come on, 5 11.

[C]

He was damn near out of car.

[A]

No, he's honest, he's. We try to make it as real as possible.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because we're trying to represent the fact. Because that is a storyline.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[A]

It's like, hey, this is a huge storyline, especially with a B flow defense where what you see isn't necessarily what's for real. So the whole you got six foot five, six foot seven guys trying to protect you. He's five eleven. Okay, so he's. That's not that small. Everybody's back but people are talking about it being real small though, which I don't love. But he's got like 6, 4, 6, 5 around him. That's why quarterbacks being tall is like what the prototype is. Because not only are you seeing over the defense and being able to, you're seeing over your own fucking guys. I mean there's a lot of meat around you. I think we're going to talk about that even later. How do you feel about what the Cleveland Browns have set up for him offensive line wise in Stefanski's offense? Do you think Dylan Gabriel is going to have success?

[B]

I love their offensive line and here's why. Because they are built center, both guards really good on the interior of their offensive line. The defense is going to want to to make him feel like the walls are closing in. The whole purpose of the pocket on offensive line is the tackles create the width, the interior guys create the depth. Well, the good news is those interior three, Botonio Pochic and Wyatt Teller are as good as any three in the National Football League on the interior.

[A]

And Stefanski's offense, what is his offense? I remember watching Baker throw. Yeah. 60 times with a separated Shoulder taking Nick Chubb off the field because he was doing well. Yeah, so I know that. But he certainly had success obviously when him and Flacco were flying around making the play, doing that. Stefanski is known as an offensive guru. Obviously they have a run game, they're going to have to at Cleveland. But what type of offense, what is Dylan Gabriel going to have to do in this particular offense?

[B]

He comes from the world of zone schemes and play actions. I mean he likes to push the ball down the field off of his play actions. And that I think can benefit Dylan Gabriel because now you're moving the pocket, you're not having him sit in the middle of the pocket where hands can bat passes down. Now you get him outside the pocket after running the ball. Running the ball, Running the ball. Now we hit the play action, get him outside the pocket and hit something down the field.

[A]

Joining us now. Go ahead.

[C]

No to the key is going to be getting the ball out of his hands quick. Gets this Flores defense, you saw that's how a Rod had success last week against this defense. Because you sit back there, you getting third and long, you got to be able to run the ball as well. You getting third and long dead in the water against this defense.

[A]

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen is going to be a first ballot hall of famer, a man who is already in the Houston Texans Bull ring of honor. He's also calling games for CBS every single Sunday and he's done a fantastic job. Every time we've heard him talk about the ladies and gentlemen, the owner of the Burnley lads and the Espanol boys, J.J. watt. How you doing, J.

[E]

Hey guys, how's it going?

[A]

Hey man, you ever been to Augusta? You ever been? You ever been down there?

[E]

No big deal.

[A]

That's unbelievable. Good for you. Have you done this down there? No big deal.

[E]

Played the course 103, part of the first hole. No big deal.

[A]

Wow. Amen corner. How'd you do? Amen corner. How'd you do? Not good. Not good. Not good. Okay, not good. I'm happy to hear that. But man, what a place.

[E]

What a place. Yeah, no big deal.

[A]

Did you stay the night? Did you stay the night there?

[D]

Where?

[A]

At Augusta?

[E]

Not on the grounds. Oh, I didn't know.

[A]

I didn't even know that was a real thing. But I mean I got dressed in.

[E]

The champions locker room at breakfast up there hard the first hole. Should have walked off the course after first hole.

[F]

Great start.

[A]

Did you do dinner? Gigi go to dinner?

[E]

I mean I ate food. What are you Asking what did you do?

[A]

Yeah, how about me? I'm not talking about me. Just people I know, friends of mine. You didn't do a tour of the place? You didn't go down into the wine cellar? Oh. You didn't do any of that. Wow, that's crazy weird. How about the amateur cabin up there? Did you go up there? Did you go see that?

[E]

No, I did not go up there.

[A]

Oh, my God. That would have been so cool if you were. I've heard other people got to do that.

[E]

Yeah, it would have been. It would have been. Appreciate the invite, you know.

[A]

Yeah, somebody will. Could invite you. And me too, by the way. Yeah, somebody could. Could invite me. Let's get off of that subject. Let's get to you in a 511 quarterback. Okay. They're making a big deal out of this. Should they. And what are your thoughts on Dylan Gabriel taking over for the Cleveland Browns?

[E]

My thoughts are, I hope he's great. I would love for the Cleveland Browns jersey that. That one with all the quarterbacks names on the back. If you retired, it would be fun to have a guy just end it and you could just have one jersey with one name. So hopefully that's Gabriel, because I think it would be great. I think the Cleveland Browns have a phenomenal fan base who are fully on board with their team and support them through a whole lot of shit throughout the years. And it would be great if they were great at some point. So I'm all for it now. As far as his stature, there have been short quarterbacks who have been successful before. I don't think it's as crazy in today's world with the rules and how we protect them. But there's no question that it does present its challenges. And batting down passes is a real thing. That's not like a myth where it's like, they don't get better passes batted down. It is easier to bat down a pass that comes out at a lower trajectory. It's just a fact.

[A]

Yeah. And that's just physics, I believe, is the math. That would be. The one in charge of that, I think, is. No geometry. No. By both, man, I wish I.

[E]

You got it. You got it. Work it out. Work it out.

[A]

Just trying to figure out what scientific factor you are so you don't get accused of going after him because Maybe he's under 6 foot, which a lot of people are kind of doing. You're just trying to say, hey, this is just actual science here. This is actual math here. A ball that is starting from a Lower place is going to be easier to maybe stop from getting from a higher place. But there has been success in the past. Obviously, everybody goes immediately to Drew Brees, because the way Drew Brees was able to operate, I think he's 6 foot, maybe just even the way he was able to operate was literally through passing lanes that were somehow in every single play. I don't know how he was able to find them. He always looked at the bottom of his helmet and he was able to wheel and deal. Amazing. But everybody's like, he's done it. So other people have done it. It's like, yeah, I think that's a lot.

[E]

Think that batting passes is like. I don't think that's going to be the defining factor if he's a good quarterback or not. Batting passes is so rare. Even if you're one of the best in the league at it, it still happens so rarely. That, yeah, you might get two in a game, but that's not going to decide if Dylan Gabriel's a great quarterback or not.

[A]

What if Dylan Gabriel is exactly what they needed over there? It's really cool. That would be very sweet, especially for that Browns team. And I think all pass rushers would feel this way. Yeah, we want the team that paid $40 million for a pass rusher to have success. We would like other teams to see that. Yep, yep, yep. This is how you blueprint. This is how you win in this entire thing. But that defense, and I mean, that.

[E]

Defense is rolling, dude. That defense is very, very, very good. And as a defensive guy who's kind of been through that before, I understand. Am I my freezing? Am I choppy over here?

[A]

Yeah, you're a little choppy. Not the audio, but definitely your face. Yeah, we caught your face about halfway. You know, one of those types of moves.

[C]

Technology, Burnley connection.

[A]

Maybe it's that soccer ball. What is that soccer ball behind you? Maybe it's radiating too much.

[E]

My wife. My wife has the fastest goal in u. S. History. She scored 48 seconds in her first ever appearance.

[A]

What? I knew it was radiating too much energy. It was blitzing the. I mean, how many. Say this? Static gam. What? How many seconds?

[E]

Fastest goal in U.S. women's soccer history. 48 seconds.

[A]

Wow.

[E]

Into our first game, she came on subbed on, scored a goal immediately.

[A]

So what did she. How did it work out? Did she slice and dice the entire team? Did she. What was it?

[E]

Yeah, she picked it up just past half the halfway line, took it down and put it in the back, and then it was it was the coolest. I mean, we did, like, we were still a little early in the days there, and I was like, this is awesome.

[A]

This is what we need.

[E]

This is gonna be all time.

[A]

Yeah. Fastest of all time. That's incredible. I love what your boy KOA and your kids are gonna be like. Mama, Daddy. Very athletic, Uncle Z. Very athletic. Before we dive into football talk, TJ said on a show that we're not allowed to show. Okay. That guy's awesome, I think. Noted. Awesome guy. Sure. But TJ talked on a show about the amount of food that you guys ate as kids. Is it. What? So every once in a while, we'll see you put out one of those rock like posts where.

[C]

True.

[A]

You look like an. I'd say with the amount of food you put out there, but that is literally just. What you guys grew up doing is just housing food is. And is this the cheat code? Are you doing this to your kids right now?

[E]

He was.

[A]

He's not lying.

[E]

It was two breakfasts, two lunches, two dinners every day, and it was the gallon of milk a day for the household. It was just.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

I mean, my dad and my mom were very conscious of, like, they knew that we needed to put on weight and if we wanted to be athletic, we needed to grow, and it was a whole lot of food. And I think he told the story about peanut butter and jellies packed in the backpack for lunch, for snacks at school. So you'd have your two breakfasts in the morning, you go to school, eat your PB and J, then you go get your double lunch at school, and then the afternoon, you have a PB and J, and then you come home and have two dinners.

[A]

So it's a lot insane is that every day of your life. How long do we do this for?

[E]

I mean, it was basically until the end of my playing career, for sure. That's. I had to learn slow down and be like, hey, like, once I retired, you had to be like, all right, you can't do this anymore.

[A]

Yeah, well, I don't think you can do it ever. I think that is one of those things that if you would stand there for. How. What year did you. How old were you when you retired?

[E]

I was 33.

[A]

33. 33 years old. 33 years of eating like that. That. Think about how many calories. Just think about the amount of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. This guy.

[C]

What kind of workouts in between?

[A]

Yeah, we Doing swimming in the morning? Like, yeah, what. How many workouts a day?

[E]

There was. There were Some. There were some times where it was ridiculous. I mean, there were. There were two a day workouts on practice days in the NFL.

[A]

It was.

[E]

It was dumb. I've said it before. There were times where it was dumb. Just. But you don't know. You got. It's like that thing. You got to push it to the limit until you find the limit. So you're like, all right, I got to be the best by working harder than everybody else. So I need to work harder than I've ever worked. And then you get. And then all of a sudden you blow out your back and you're like, okay, there's line.

[A]

Okay, I'm not.

[C]

I'm not even talking NFL. I'm talking, like when you're in seventh grade, like, what is. Because you're eating. Because some people may see this and say, all right, let me just feed my kids and.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[C]

And then I become fat. So. So what type of.

[A]

Yeah. 500 pound life, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[E]

This is not a recommendation, but there was a lot interesting. This isn't like a thing where we were like, yes, dad, give us all this food. We just were hungry to be great. Like, there was some. There was some like, dad, like, we don't. We're full.

[A]

I don't want to eat. I don't want to work out. Hungry. Dad stopping me. Baby. J, I don't like peanut butter and jelly anymore. It sucks. Now I understand, but go ahead.

[E]

It's like we're very fortunate. I've told the story many times. My mom was a secretary, worked her way up to become the vice president. My dad was a firefighter. We were middle class, not rich, not poor. But they spent their money trying to better us like that. They wanted us to be great. They took it. And we're very, very grateful and thankful for that.

[A]

Hell yeah to the Watts.

[B]

Hell yeah, Watts.

[A]

Hell yeah to the Watts. Okay, let's talk about a Watt. Tj. We actually had to do a little bit of journalism and get the truth. Obviously. What's good. Is that a full sized mug. Oh, yeah. You got an Andre the Giant type situation. You got an Andre the Giant type situation. Whenever he's holding that beer can, you look.

[D]

Looks like a Dixie cup.

[A]

That is. That is. That's a small. That's an espresso. That's an espresso cup.

[E]

This is a 12 ounce cup.

[A]

You're a monster. Two PB and J's. They sandwiched the double lunch. So think about this. PB and J. Lunch, lunch. PB and J. That's lunch. That is what lunch is. And then he holds this mug and that thing disappears. Let's talk about another Watt that has lived a life like that and took over another country. What a performance. Go ahead, Ty.

[D]

Yeah, jj, what were your thoughts on the Ireland game as a whole? Pretty sweet atmosphere. Obviously, we. We called you and. Kind of weird that TJ decided to lie, because everyone knows that when he punted that ball into the. The Hogan stands, it was clearly an ode to Gaelic football. So a little weird that he wouldn't just be honest about that, but. I get it. But overall, what did you think of this whole kind of experience over in Ireland? And we already are getting some of, like, the. The stats back in the viewership. This was the second most watched NFL Network international game in history. So it looks like we will be going back to Dublin once again. The aisle, if you will.

[E]

Massive fan of Ireland. Been over there many times. I love it. I think the NFL, Dublin, everybody in Ireland knocked it out of the park. It looked incredible. It was a fun game to watch. I think the only change that I would make to it is the winning team should stay the next day. Like, there should be a pub crawl for the winning team. I feel like that would be next level because you can't. You can't win the game in Dublin and then just hop straight on a plane and come back. You have to hit the pub.

[A]

They should have a little crawl set up for that. I think that'd be easy to call. And McQuaid. McQuaid would definitely set that. Yeah, yeah. Over here, lad. Actually got a. Got a tunnel.

[D]

Yeah, Follow me under this tunnel lot. Don't worry, we'll be there in two seconds.

[A]

They should definitely.

[E]

Or like, at least at minimum on the field after the game. Like on Thanksgiving when they give the turkey leg. You gotta just be chugging Guinness on the field after the game.

[A]

Yeah. I think I saw your brother and Cam Hayward, maybe afterwards, had a pint, they were sharing and maybe some more were shared behind the scenes as you're on the bus and heading to the airport and everything. But you're right. Why not for the Irish game, have it be different? What's the difference? Oh, you go on a pub crawl afterwards.

[D]

That'd be sweet.

[A]

That would be a sick thing. Now, granted, definitely going to need a buy after that.

[D]

Yeah, maybe two.

[A]

The game. Certainly one thing when I.

[E]

Very interesting what Minnesota is doing. Very interesting. That's. I'm very excited to watch and see how this plays out for him.

[A]

Okay. So they Said they'd rather do this than go into Pittsburgh or into Cleveland. So what are your thoughts on that? Like, obviously, the travel is its own animal, and every team has to be comfortable with what they're doing. And there's no right answer. Obviously, people have left early, people have left late. I don't even think you're allowed to leave too early anymore because of what rules are. Teams have won, teams have lost. Whatever it is in the travel. Obviously, guys say, like, well, I'd rather save my bye week for later. I don't want to do it. It's like, I don't know what the right answer is. I don't know if there is a right answer. But choosing Ireland and London over Pittsburgh and Cleveland in theory made sense to me whenever I heard it. I would have never thought of it that way.

[E]

Yeah, I think for me, the big difference here is there's a difference between going and staying two weeks and playing two weeks in the same place where you're kind of settled into the hotel, you're settling into the practice facilities, you got your routine. Then going to Ireland, playing a game in Ireland, then switching countries, going to London, getting yourselves all reset up at the hotel and everything, and then playing a game there. I do think that that's different than, like, a Jacksonville staying over for two weeks just because of how much difference there is. I mean, practice fields and ice baths and everything is different. You have to reset up and pack and everything. So, I mean, maybe I'm making too big of a deal out of it there, but there's. There's no doubt that the upheaval of your normal routine can affect you as a player.

[A]

I think so, too. And it's a lot of bullshit there. Checking in, checking out. What's the new this, what's the new that? Obviously, we're on different time. When do we talk to the family? Is the family here? What does the family need? I mean, there is. There's just a lot that goes into that on the human side. So staying focused on the game is obviously a whole nother task at hand. I. The Vikings are going to be looking to win this week. I mean, if they go 02, they're going to be looked at as doofuses.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Not only do you pick up two losses, which you might have been able to steal one maybe in Pittsburgh and Cleveland, which is. But also now, your team has been international for two weeks. How do you get back on to Minnesota? I mean, it's. There's going to be a lot of questions. Yeah, if they go 02 and they were close. Carson Wentz almost brought him back in. You did the Carson Wentz experience. JJ was happening right in front of our eyes over there in Ireland. It was a special time. And now it heads to London to take on Dylan Gabriel. We can't wait for another 9:30am kickoff. We're looking at the games for this weekend across the board. No, let's make sure we enjoy the good ones. Yeah, they're gonna be on.

[C]

Let's make sure we got a couple good ones.

[A]

Yeah, we got a couple good. We certainly got a couple good ones and we will enjoy those. Thursday night's a big one. Yes. Rams, Niners. That's a big, big, big game.

[E]

That's a good game. That's a very good football game. Looking forward to that.

[A]

That's Thursday.

[E]

Check out the rest here.

[C]

Man.

[A]

Really wish.

[B]

Buccaneers, Seahawks.

[C]

Yeah. On that note, jj, I know this would be a great game. Two former first round quarterbacks found their footing, doing their thing. Two great Ohio State wide receivers, Jackson Smith and Jigba Ibuka. But I know something near and dear to your heart. Jersey swag. All time jersey matchup here. Which way are you leaning? Right here between the Bucks and the throwback. Seahawks jerseys.

[E]

Dude, I, I do not know if you are going to see a better uniform matchup this year or even potentially in coming years. I mean that is top, top tier. The thing I love about the Bucks, we all love the Creamsicles, but there are some people that it can overwhelm this with the white understated, the Creamsicles allowed to pop, but it doesn't overpower you. But like see the so and also here's the thing for me, the Creamsicles, that's a perfect throwback, you get that out here once or twice a year. But the Seahawks, that's got to be there full time. You got to go back to that full time. That is a top, top tier uniform combo.

[A]

Shout out to Ari Mirov, piecing this beautiful thing together, obviously for us on the Internet to remind us of this game happening. But anytime you get good unis on boys know they're probably going to get to keep them. Yeah. So if you get to keep them, you would like the memory to be a good one. Yes. So obviously I think there is a little heightened environment, heightened atmosphere whenever you have a good uni. Now if you got an ass union, which some of these teams have certainly rolled them out.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[A]

Some guys don't even want to keep the jersey after. So it's like, you know, so sometimes the jersey can weigh a lot more than in other games. And I think in this one it's going to be beautiful. Now, the Falcons, you just got a chance to go learn more about them. Connor has a question for you. Jj.

[B]

Yeah, jj, Bijan's been off to an unbelievable start.

[A]

He leads the team in rushing and receiving.

[B]

And this is kind of a trend.

[A]

Almost right now with some of these running backs.

[B]

I know Bucky Irving is up there.

[A]

After his 100 yard day on Sunday. And then there's a few others, McCaffrey kind of scattered in there, but Bijan's.

[B]

By far the most dominant player for his team at any of those running backs.

[A]

How do you feel about Bijan possibly, you know, making a run at the mvp?

[B]

I know he plays running back and.

[A]

It'S a quarterback award, but do you.

[B]

Think he might, you know, go on a little run here? And also, same note, Pukinakua too.

[E]

Yeah. I mean, obviously two incredible players you're talking about here had a chance to watch Bajan up and close this week and like you said, leading his team and receiving, leading his team in rushing and just dynamic. It's incredible to watch him play. His jump cuts, his explosion after the cut, his ability out of the backfield and something that's extremely underrated, but he's very good at it, is his blocking. He's a really good blocker, a willing blocker. So I think if the Falcons can get on a little roll and their offense plays like they did last week and not like they played against Carolina, there's certainly conversation that should be starting around Bijon Robinson and that tier of that MVP level tier if they can get on a little bit of a run. But just because of everything that he does. Also just a great kid. It was a lot of fun to talk to him. It was. He seems to have just a great head on his shoulders. He trains with McCaffrey in the off season. He wants to grow, he wants to get better. He's. He's definitely the type of guy that you love to see hyped up in this league is just all about ball and loves ball.

[A]

Okay, so let's go to the next game that you're calling. That was last week. I can't wait to hear who's catching your eye. But there's another man that is going to be not calling, has been calling games, too. And I don't know if you guys have shared any insight on what it's like to be good color commentators, but I do know you guys have shared, like, similar thought or maybe differing thoughts on maybe a play. AQ Shipley's here, obviously. 12 year NFL fan. He posted the other day. I don't know if you saw this. It was a Dion Dawkins play. And aq I base, basically what you said is like, hey, this is this guy. Superpower. This is what Dion Dawkins do, right? Is that all what you said?

[B]

Yeah. I love him. Every time he sees that DN drop, he's looking to break some ribs. And not only does he get one, he gets two. Oh, he gets two.

[A]

Now, J, we have heard that maybe you have a thought on this particular play about celebrating Dion Dawkins. Looking for ribs, looking for work, looking to help out there.

[E]

Jim, I do have some thoughts. None of them are about Dion Dawkins. Dion Dawkins is a phenomenal football player. Great football player. This has nothing to do with him. This has to do with AQ Shipley acting like this. Like we just took two blindside shots. Completely legal. Completely fine. No problem at all. I get it. It's part of the game. But this, I don't know. Like, it's like.

[A]

He called you a.

[E]

Scrub block and I post a free sack and it's like, that guy's a beast. It's like, well, I mean, the guy quarterback laid down for me. He was just laying there and I touched him for the sack.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just curious how many sacks you had on tt stuns. Te stuns et stunts. Just curious as the guy picked the out of the tackle on when his eyes aren't looking at him, boom. And then you come freezing. That the same thing? Pretty similar.

[A]

Plenty.

[E]

But I didn't post it on the Internet and say, wow, look at how dominant this guy is. Like, no, not somebody's. He knocked somebody's ribs out that wasn't looking. I got knocked out by Ben Skronic one time flat on my ass.

[D]

Good ball player.

[E]

And the Rams posted it for like three weeks straight. Rightfully so. But, like, I wasn't looking. I had no idea it was coming. It was from the outside. And yeah, it's pretty easy to knock somebody on their ass when they're not looking.

[A]

Yeah. Aq, JJ saying, hey, Q, maybe let's not be glorifying things that maybe most people could do. Dion Dawkins has a lot of other tape that maybe we should be celebrating. Is that what you're saying, jj? Yes.

[E]

Thank you. I think AQ could go out there and knock those dudes out right now in the same situation. I think Henzi might be able to.

[B]

And I would love every second of that.

[A]

Mackenzie could potentially do that. But you say you're celebrating because you don't.

[B]

Here's why I'm celebrating and this is why. Because for the rest of the game, they run a zone blitz and they drop the end. That three technique has to think about it. That not only does the three technique have to think about it, now the nose guard has to think about it because Dion Dawkins, your left tackle, not only hits the, the three technique, now he comes and gets the opposite nose guard. And so because of that, I'm celebrating. It's a heads up play. Not every tackle does that. You know that. We've watched a million tackles just sit there and, and eat up space. But to have the wherewithal, to have the heads up, to be able to go back in and get one, not only get one, but get two, now everybody's thinking about on the defensive side of the ball.

[E]

I, I do agree with your argument there. I do agree that not everybody's cleaning that up, that not everybody is doing, especially the second one. I agree. And it is an effort thing. There's no doubt, nothing wrong with any of that. I will now.

[A]

Give credit.

[C]

I'll give credit.

[A]

You called him a wrecking ball.

[E]

You didn't say it was dominant. You just said he was a wrecking ball. Which I guess technically in that sense, he was a wrecking ball.

[A]

Wow. He kind of came in like a wrecking ball to your argument there. Wow.

[B]

Queue up the song. Queue it up. Wrecking ball, wrecking ball.

[A]

Go ahead, hit it. I came in like a wrecking ball. Yes.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

One nothing. Yes. We like that. Good win, aq. Hey, this guy's pitching shut out right now, seven and a third innings.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

You got some real magic hook in there. Okay, now follow up. He does want to ask you a question about the game you're about to call. Yeah.

[B]

It's a game we thought was going to be a lot better when the season started. Texans, Ravens, you're calling it. Your guy, Matt Burke calling plays. What. What is he bringing that's different than the previous coordinator? And what are you seeing? Obviously you love this guy. Love to hear your thoughts on that.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, Matt Burke obviously calling the defense for the first time last week and getting a shutout. First time since 2010. I was, I was a little sad to learn that I never had a shutout in Houston. I just assumed we had one. Didn't.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

But also like it's you know, the Texans defense is dominant. They're unbelievable. First in points per game. Titans, we know, have their own issues and struggles, so there's no doubt about that. But I think more so than Bert calling defense, which he is a fantastic defensive coordinator and knows what he's doing, is it frees up to Mikko to just be the head coach and to go out there and sometimes go help the offense or talk to CJ to just focus on the decision making and to kind of play that global CEO as opposed to having double duty with the coordinator calling the plays and head coach, which I think is huge. I'm a big advocate for the CEO head coach as opposed to the coordinator slash head coach. And I think this is a great step for the Texans.

[A]

There's obviously been some that have been massively successful as play callers and head coaches. Andy Reid is who we all kind of point to as the guy who's been able to do it for so damn long. But I enjoy the thought of a CEO head coach as well, being able to tap in with everybody, spend more time connecting with everybody and also spending your life doing things that are good for the whole team as opposed to just one side of the ball. But a lot of these guys were getting jobs because of how good they were at calling plays. It's an interesting dynamic. It's almost the Peter principle in some of those situations where like hey, you get the job because of how good of a play caller you are, but then you take the job and you say, well, I can't be a play caller anymore, so now you have a completely different job that you didn't get the job. Because it's an interesting good luck to everybody out there. Go get hard job, Hard job. Coaching as a whole is an incredibly hard job. Are the Texans back?

[E]

I think this weekend is going to be a big one to tell us that. I mean like we all know the Titans are struggling right now, so that that is a tough one to use as a measuring stick. The first half did not look good, only up 60 after the first half. But then they came out in the second half, did what they're supposed to this week. I mean the Ravens are decimated by injuries, just not just Lamar everywhere, they have guys out left and right and they're already the 32nd ranked defense in the NFL. So it's I, I've kind of build, I'm kind of building this one a little bit on Sunday. We're just talking about it. It's on one hand, it's the immovable object versus the unstoppable force. You have Derek Henry in the offense who are third in points per game against the Texans defense, who's first in points per game. On the flip side, you've got the movable object versus the stoppable force. Texans offense hasn't been great. Ravens defense is 32nd. So it's just going to come down to who executes better and if the Texans offense actually is back on track and rolling. Could be. Could be coming around. How'd the Colts do last week?

[A]

All right. We should have won that game. We're dropping balls.

[C]

It's a battle.

[A]

We're holding on to impal. We got one guy made a couple mistakes but guess what, he's dynamic on the field so we're going to make sure he gets it right. And it's a good time to lose a game. It is. It's a good time to lose tie especially to the or tie game. Yeah. Your thoughts J on the Colts should have won this game. We all know that. Talk to Matthew Stafford afterwards. Matthew Stafford said that's good. Team over.

[D]

Yeah, he didn't.

[A]

Yeah, that's good. Team over there. That was good news. That's all I need to hear. Let's talk about the tie from you. I need to hear your thoughts on Cowboys Packers Maka to Jerry wrote. Did you see Micah come out with the band on his waist still for his first time going onto the field back onto Jerry world. He had a band around his waist like a one of those warm up bands. He kind of just kept it for the entirety and at one point he grabs it so he knew it was there. But that was interesting to me. I'd never seen that before. But what do you think about it ending 4040 tie ball game and Jerry Jones going well they got Maka and we got, we got and we tied. So you tell me, are you hearing your thoughts? Jade?

[E]

I didn't see the workout band until now. That's an interesting one.

[A]

Accident. You think that's accident?

[E]

That'd be really tough to be an accident, man, because that is very restricting around your hip flexors and clearly your glutes. I think you would know that that was there, but I don't know. I guess it was a crazy game. It was a wild game. I haven't seen any Jordan love quotes since. But like did he know that that was the game was going to end if. If that clock hit zero at the end?

[D]

Well, the floor seemed to not know that he said that today and he was like, wow. I was just thinking, I'm the sideline. Like, this is gonna be bad. We're not even gonna get another playoff. So. But he did say. Yeah, he said, he said that day. He said, you know, I started looking up at the clock and it was going down and I was thinking, oh my God, we're not gonna get a playoff. And then that's what it looked like. Yeah. Bingo. Bingo. But he did say, you know, he didn't lie.

[A]

We appreciate him. Let's give him his le fly.

[D]

And he did say that was embarrassing and that can't ever happen again.

[C]

Man, there you go.

[A]

Do we hear him, Ty?

[D]

It was like watching a slow motion car crash in front of your face. I was just looking at the clock like, oh my God. There's going to be no time left. It's a very humbling experience and obviously it's unacceptable. Quite honestly, I'm. I'm sure it'll be teach tape around.

[A]

I'm sure everybody will be d. Very true. Yes, they will. Hey, if we get in this situation, are we doing not what these idiots did? Okay? We are going to know that we need another play. We're in field goal range. We can tie. It sucks, but we can certainly tie if we have to. Didn't feel like Jordan watching that live.

[E]

I thought for sure that clock was going to at minimum hit zero and they might put one back on. It's crazy that that clock did not hit zero.

[A]

And especially in Jerry world, I think a lot of people would think Jerry, you know, especially on big Michael's return night, you know, there would be a. Maybe a favorable clock. That thing stopping at one was certainly good news for packers fans as McManus came out and tied that up. But everybody on earth now just says this shouldn't be allowed. J your thoughts?

[E]

I mean, I can obviously as a fan and somebody watching the game, I do not want to see it end in a tie. I want to see some form of Victor.

[A]

Now.

[E]

I have also personally played in back to back full overtime games on a Sunday and a Thursday. So I had to just play overtime, full 15 minutes on a Sunday, go on the road on a Thursday at 11am on Thanksgiving Day and play a full overtime game on Thursday. So I played 10 quarters in five days. That sucks. That is a lot of football and it is. So I completely get why we don't. But nobody likes ties, man. Like nobody. We gotta find. I don't. I don't want to go to like a goal kick situation, but that would be electric if you just boss the kickers out there and start backing them up.

[A]

Golden booty. As we agree, we'd be taking what soccer has as their only electrifying thing and adding it to our game. And it's only happening after an overtime period. This. A lot of football has already taken place. The boys can't figure it out. Let's go and get this done. BA pitch yesterday. Offenses 8 yard line, 1 play, score touchdown or not score a touchdown. So instead of the golden boot, just have your offense, defense go out there. One play ball on the eight yard line. Obviously if offense scores, defense gets a stop, that team wins. If both teams score, that's like college.

[E]

After the first two, right?

[A]

Yeah, but I think you got to go for two in the second one now. And I don't even think it's the third one. Right. I think that's the big difference. Yeah. Yeah. That rule has changed. One of the coaches didn't know that. Just like two weeks ago. Let's go to hammer dad Todd AP tone. That second overtime you have to go for two. Is that, that. Was that this year? Last year? When did that rule change?

[B]

It's very, very recent. I want to say, I want to say it's this year because I remember Georgia, Georgia Tech last year they were arguing that Georgia Tech should have gone.

[A]

For two after the second overtime and they didn't. They just kept playing overtimes where. Because it used to be the third one. I think it was used to be the third one. Now it's the second.

[E]

But do they still do the thing where they do dueling two point conversions? Yeah, after like two.

[A]

Yeah. No. Are they really?

[F]

Yeah, they were.

[A]

They.

[B]

They don't even go back to the 25 or whatever.

[A]

They only do two point conversions. Oh, oh yeah. Because Georgia. Yes.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yes, I do remember that. Yeah, that is awesome. But just move it to the. It was like seven of them.

[E]

Texas A M had the one where it was like seven. They're just going back and forth.

[A]

Maybe just start with that.

[E]

Where are you this week? Where are we at game day?

[A]

Alabama. Oh, hosting Vanderbilt. Alabama. Pretty good team. Who have they beat this year? That's.

[E]

We don't need to know that.

[A]

We don't.

[E]

Let's talk about Vandy.

[A]

Vandy. Let's.

[E]

Let's hype Vanity up. Let's give Vandy some love. They're probably first time on game day.

[A]

Yeah, I think it is for a long time.

[E]

Or ever.

[A]

I. I think ever. I think, I mean Jay Cutler had that run right. With Vandy. I Assume maybe they had some good hype then, but just the thought last year that we were going to maybe try to get to a van. None of the schedule never lined up, but it was certainly like, hey, we got to go. We got to go show Vandy to the world right now that they're a school, this is out of control. That they were able to turn this quickly with just a couple pieces and a culture change. And it's, like, good for Vandy. So getting a chance to celebrate them this week while they travel to Alabama will be fun. Florida State, Miami was certainly where I think everybody thought we were headed, including us. And then the Virginia game happens and they lose, and it's like, still a big game, but after a loss. The fact that game day is viewed that way, and I'll continue to say this, it's crazy to be a part of. People are like, hey, it has to come to our game. Like, that's a cool thing to be a part of. Like, that's very humbling. You know what I mean? Like, hey, this game, this sport is so big, so large, so much tradition, so much history, so much pageantry. And it's like, I'm a part of something that is just considered a part of the fabric of that entire thing. Very lucky to do that. I would like that to be said.

[E]

It's awesome. It's incredible. I mean, it's literally a part of, like, it's. It's become just as much a part of college football as the actual games, which is so cool. And then I also have to tell you this. Every week, I go into these stadiums now, calling these games, and it's been really cool. Like, the stadium workers, whether it's the security people or it's the people operating the elevators, every single week so far this season, somebody has said to me, love watching you on the McAfee Show. I watch that show every day. It's such a great show and you guys do a great job. So your demographic and audience is the people doing it out there, working, putting in the time, the police officers, everybody loving it. So it's been really cool to see that response.

[A]

Yeah, we're very thankful for the folks that watch this show, but also we're thankful for you coming by the show. You're great on our show, brother. Just like, you're great in the booth. We appreciate the hell out of you. How are. How are Burnley and Espanol doing?

[E]

We got a big weekend coming up. Everybody plays on Sunday. We got. I got the Texans, Ravens. Burnley's got Aston Villa Espanol's got Real Bettis. Batis. Bettis. I don't know how to pronounce the Buzz's team.

[F]

That's a good squad in the league.

[A]

That's a tough game. What's the name of the team? Gumps? Real Betis. Okay, so it's not Jerome.

[D]

Do we know that for sure in.

[F]

In Spain, though?

[A]

Okay. We don't know for sure if the boss is associated with Batiste, but they are a good team. Over the Espanol squad needs. Do we continue winning, Keep winning or start winning again?

[E]

We've been drawing so we. We could get on the W train again.

[A]

More draws again, Rog. Roger. Hear what he just said? That's what they're doing. Yeah. Okay.

[D]

Against Jerome Bettis's team, you know, and.

[A]

They'Re calling it football. Okay. We can't be doing that. Commish. Enough. Immediate meeting. 32 only. Let's get a rule done. Yeah.

[D]

Can't have another tie and change that primetime Thanksgiving game too.

[A]

Getting your angles out. All right. We appreciate you, ladies and gentlemen. He is future first ballot hall of Famer, J.J. watt. J.J. is the man. I. I'm happy he's doing well in the booth. Yeah, it's awesome. Hey, you are as well, aren't you? You.

[B]

I appreciate that.

[A]

I saw a video of you calling it. I like the energy. I like. I didn't know you were sitting on, like, a little stair in the corner. Yeah, you can get. You can get real tight.

[D]

I didn't know that either.

[A]

Yeah, you get with your guy. You're allowed to be next to your pliable.

[B]

I'm pliable. I can really compact down.

[A]

What are you watching? Are you watching the little monitor? Are you watching?

[B]

No, I'm watching live.

[A]

Where the hell is debug going? Debunk show up. He's so upset.

[D]

He said, I gotta go.

[A]

You gotta go. A co. We had a little. We had a little super duper donuts this morning.

[D]

Oh, yeah, that's right. The dirt donuts.

[A]

A lot of ingredients in these days. Dirt. Well, a brought some healthy donuts. Yeah.

[D]

I just assume they're made with dirt.

[A]

I assume that too. Yeah, no, they delicious. Delicious. Okay. But I think there's a lot of things in there that make you dump your pants. Yeah, that's everything about the dumping donuts. And Darius is certainly going through that right now. This is Joe Button.

[C]

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[A]

New Episodes Tuesdays program begins now. Football is magical. We're lucky to talk about it every single day. But this hour is going to be a little bit different. We're going to be talking about another sport that's in the middle of a magical another playoff run. Wild Card. Sorry, Yesterday continues into today and then we're gonna find out who's the next Mr. October. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who's gonna be banging pennants on the wall? Who's gonna be hitting the ball further than the other team? And what pitchers are gonna be able to find that strike zone better than everybody else? What names will be etched in history? What teams will get to the mountaintop? We have started MLB Postseason. Hell yeah. Yeah. I guess I could say the MLB postseason because that would be the. Would be the postseason. MLB would be the descriptor.

[D]

Correct.

[A]

It's the MLB postseason that is currently happening. And we've had some magical moments. We're talking about back to Back Jacks. We're talking about a big time comeback and one of the biggest rivalries in all of sports. And then we got a team up there in Detroit that may be, oh, yeah, maybe going on a little bit of a run. Even though the boys had quite a collapse at the end of the year, they tried to scoop 14 strikeouts, pitched an absolute gem. Some people were calling it the best pitching performance in all of baseball history. That's a big win. All right, now, there's actually starting right now. Hopefully they just win this thing. Let's get out of Cleveland, move on to the next round. I was watching somebody streaming, named Jason, the Los Angeles Dodgers, and it was a Shohei at bat. And I don't know if he expected Shohei to go yard, but he certainly did. And in that moment, that coach Jason and he lost his mind and told some truths about this man. This Shohei man is unbelievable. He is the one. Now, I know Big Dumper's gonna be joining us here in a matter of moments. Kyle Schwarbo is going to be joining us in a matter of moments here. This Shohei guy's special man. Yeah, the biggest moments. He performs. Chaos happening around him all the time. Seemingly an ability to lock in that we haven't seen, but from a few different people. You talk about the Mamba mentality, obviously, with Kobe Bryant, with his work ethic and his ability to lock in. Talk about Michael Jordan obviously flipping a switch whenever he gets into the entire thing. I got to witness it with Adam Vittieri. I'm sure Serena Williams had her version of how she would flip the switch and get locked in and just kind of absolutely dominate this Shohei guy somehow with fire literally burning around him personally and in the stadiums because his ratings are going up and to the right. He's building this sport in other countries and obviously in Japan. He's one of the biggest stars on earth. NHK ratings, NHK ratings up, whatever over there. It's like. And then he just steps in. The biggest moments that has no idea. Like, it is. He's almost unconscious, this guy. Whenever he's playing sports, it's unbelievable to watch. I'm happy he is a part of a time that we are alive, Tash.

[D]

Yeah, without a doubt. And the way they deploy him, too, like the fact that he's, you know, batting leadoff a lot. It just. Their. Their lineup is so deep, so you can do that. But, like, you could just see last night, like, how demoralizing that is. Like, the Reds have this kid, Hunter Green who throws over 100 miles an hour. He is an absolute stud. And then, you know, you have all this momentum and excitement for being in the playoffs. And then boom, first at bat of the game, Shohei goes yard and it's like, oh, shit, here we go again. We got to basically be perfect from here on out. Comes up a little bit later, hits another homer. Tay. Oscar who? Hernandez, who is another guy who, like they were thinking about maybe letting go, but they ended up bringing him back. He's clutching the playoffs. He hits two homers last night. Tommy Edmond hits a homer last night. Like they just. And it's kind of. This is what, you know, good teams, especially teams who hit home runs, that's. This is what they do. It's just contagious. Like once a couple guys run into them, then it's like, okay, now we're just gonna see guys throughout the order start hitting homers. And to the Reds credit, they. They had a little bit of a comeback last night and ended up losing 10, 5. As you can see Rob Lows in his mind there. But yeah, it is, it is. But the Dodgers are unbelievable once again. And a lot of people are already looking ahead and saying, man, if we can get Phillies Dodgers in the next round, that would be sublime.

[A]

Well, Schwarbo know. We know he hits it a long way.

[D]

He does.

[A]

You know, Harper hits it a long way. Sh. Otani last night, hardest hit home run off a hundred mile an hour pitch in stack ass there. Stat. That 117.7 miles an hour. I think it's coming out. I thought Judge hit a single that hard. Why? This is. Oh, my bad.

[B]

My home run.

[A]

Home run off. Why'd you do that? No, I genuinely was like, well, why'd he do that? Judge hit his ball 150 miles an hour.

[B]

I was like, that's not that fast.

[A]

It was a home run versus single. He's saying single very loud, hasn't he? And it's the best, okay? It's the best of three series. I don't know if everybody really understands that because there was a time where these games are best of one. Do you remember that 12 years NFL virus? It was electric.

[B]

AJ Burnett on the mound.

[A]

Neil Walker is doing his thing. Place is going crazy. It wasn't that long ago, but it feels like forever.

[B]

It feels like it's never going to happen again.

[A]

And it's certainly not within arms reach at this moment. Even though we got to sigh. Young winner in the entirety of it all. It's not even close. Can't even. Let's get back to talking ball. That's nine year NFL vet Derek J. Ball.

[C]

Hey, you said. You said you like him batting leadoff. Yeah.

[D]

I mean, yeah.

[C]

And judge bat second now, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Is that. And that, is that like very different? Is that something new? Because I'm using typically.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. But I think it's just now with the way it goes, it's like, hey, we want to guarantee this guy's going to get as many at bats as possible. And for stuff like that, it's like when you. I. Who knows what the percentages are, but when you hit a leadoff home run.

[A]

I would like a block punt.

[D]

Exactly. I would imagine you win quite a bit of the time.

[A]

Yeah, it feels like that's exactly similar type stat. Because the vibes and everything.

[D]

Exactly. Dodger Stadium was crazy.

[A]

See, Opening kickoff return over.

[D]

Right.

[A]

I mean, you might as well take it. Schwarbos he bat four.

[D]

So he batted leadoff quite a bit last year. He's been hitting third this year.

[A]

Okay. So I'm going to ask him. Hey, seems like when I was a boy with what the normal thing was. Guys batting cleanups. Yeah, the best. That's the.

[D]

That's the Big Bopper.

[A]

That's where you want to be because we're going to get him on base and then our guy is going to come in and hit him in. And then Shohei going leadoff has been like a story basically. And I just thought to myself, oh, he must not be like the best hitter because he's also one of their best pitchers. It's like, no, he is the best hitter on their team. Right? Is he the best hitter on their team by far? I mean, more at bats seems like a much smarter strategy than depending upon three people to get on base for your fourth guy to finally get a hit. I don't know. Mookie.

[D]

Yeah, Mookie. Freddie Freeman to Oscar Hernandez. I mean that's the thing when you have multiple all Stars. But. But no, it's, you know, like any more that the thing with Shohei too is it's like if he doesn't hit a homer, like he's. He stealing second, you know, like he's. He's an absolute weapon. And that's. That was always a lot of people with Schwarber, it's like, well, the whole point of your leadoff hitter is to get on base. So it's like he's only like a 240 hitter. You wouldn't say he's a guy that hits for average. But he hits a lot of home runs, so it's. It's kind of like a pick your poison, you know? Do you want a guy to get a single or a walker? Do you want a guy hit. Hit a homer the first pitch of the game?

[A]

Dumpers hitting third. Okay, so third first. We know baseball. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a guy who won a youth league baseball championship at the age of seven in a ten year old league. Wow. He's a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion, a Rider cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. hawk. Yeah. Oh. Oh, we got new shape on this thing. We got new shape. Got the. Just got the bottom of the sides trimmed up a little bit just to keep it clean. That's all it is. Can you turn that thing sideways real quick just so we. Oh, a little low fade.

[B]

I got.

[A]

I got to keep growing out the top part. Yeah, I saw sh. Hit that live, by the way. That was pretty magical. Even though it was against my Cincinnati Reds, unfortunately. Yeah. Cincinnati Reds might be outmatched in this one, which I think I actually heard Ty talking yesterday after, I think he had jack and diet. He said like something about home runs and there was something about the Yankees, we're not playing the Reds. Which is basically what was said, I think in a nutshell or whatever. Is that accurate?

[D]

Yeah, pretty much.

[A]

You guys, you guys are boppers as well, right?

[D]

Yes.

[A]

But you're taking on Red Sox and old buddy who's a great pitcher and Reds guy, potentially gettable for dong shots.

[D]

Very, very good. Kind of the same deal. But like the guy the Red Sox have is very proven. This kid for the Reds came up like very late in the season or, you know, about midway through the season. And he's got like skins type stuff. He throws hardest, it moves a lot. But it's still. He's still a young guy and he, you know, he hasn't been in that situation before.

[A]

And Shelhe, no matter the situation, seemingly has already been there at least a thousand times.

[D]

Correct.

[A]

Just so comfortable, so calm. Was, I forget the one thing that was happening. They made a big scene out of him doing something. Something, obviously. Everything he does, big scene, he does the hat tip, then he gets in there dong shot. It's like not the whole energy and attention that was just given. Hey, we just stopped this entire show for you, basically. Yep. Probably right.

[D]

Thank you.

[A]

Yep. All right, let me. This is what you came for, right?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's gone. It's like just video game. So methodic of a Assassin for his position. We're lucky to watch it. Okay, let's talk a little bit of NFL news in your. Your state, the great state of Ohio. There's a new starting quarterback for the Cleveland Brownies. Now, stop me if you've heard that.

[D]

Before.

[A]

Because the jersey. We got a new start. Quarterback. We got a new start. We got a new start. We. We got a new couch. They're laughing like a. So far they're on ES, ESPN2. Because there's baseball on ESPN1 and you're laughing at him. We're not laughing at you. We're laughing with you. This might be the one. Dylan Gabriel, drafted in the third round out of Oregon with a stop at Oklahoma. Obviously he can spin it. He's 5 foot 11. He's taking on the Minnesota Vikings and Brian Flores defense on Sunday. What do you think the storyline will be, A.J.

[C]

Oh, man.

[A]

The storyline will be like you guys talked about batted balls. We'll see what happens. I think I don't worry as much as shorter guys with batted balls. I worry more about like having giant O and D lineman in front of you, taking away the passing lane. So you might not see a guy sitting in a void or whatever. But I think Dylan Gabriel might. Might surprise some people and come out here and light it up a little bit. We know if he just takes care of the ball and they have success running it, they can absolutely win any game they're in because of that defense and B flows. Defense just got got a little bit by Aaron Rodgers. Now, granted, it wasn't a 40 piece or anything like that, but there was some success had by Aaron. What does Dylan and Stefanski take from.

[C]

That D, but getting the ball out quick, number one, we talked about it, I think Monday, Aaron Rodgers got the ball out on average like 2.17 seconds, which is the fastest since 2016. So. And that's kind of Dylan Gabriel's I guess, superpower. When you are, when you do have limitations, you got to do other things very, very well. The other shorter quarterbacks are good at that or improvise with their legs like, you know, younger Russell Wilson or a Kyler Murray. So, you know, we. We shall see. But it is kind of an advantage to the shorter quarterbacks from the secondary standpoint because it's hard to see them. Like if you're in the deep part of the field, if you're deep, half safety or post safety. A lot of times you get indicators on quarterbacks when they go, when they take the hand off the ball. A lot of Times you get these little guys get lost. So it's a little tougher, but obviously you got to deal with those big boys.

[A]

Are we out on Minnesota or no?

[B]

Lukewarm.

[A]

Lukewarm.

[C]

Star has been like contenders.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Out.

[A]

What.

[C]

I don't. I don't trust the quarterback position comes back. I don't.

[B]

I don't trust JJ beyond that. They were pretty good on up front on defense last year. They let some guy goes. They bring in Hargrave and Jonathan Allen who they think are gonna shore things up or make it better. These are really good football players who are just a little bit past their prime at this point, and they're getting pushed all over the field.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

The surprising.

[A]

Yeah. Steelers. I didn't expect the Steelers to do what they did to the Vikings. I. I think we're all rather surprised.

[D]

Van Kinky didn't play on Sunday either, did he? I mean, that obviously, but yeah, you know, that was kind of the. That was the big thing with the Vikings, especially if you're in the NFC North. It's like, wow, they're getting all these gu. I mean, that was always the question, though, is like, they could have had Aaron Rodgers potentially, but they were very comfortable with J.J. mcCarthy.

[A]

Sam Darnold.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly. So we'll see. But I don't think. I mean, I still think we maybe need to see a little bit more jj but as of right now. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think you'd be saying, like, oh, yeah, this is the exact same team that, you know, went. Almost. Went 14 and. Or 15 and two last year and won the NFC North.

[A]

I trust KFC. I think we all do. We'll see what the Minnesota Vikings are. They have their second international game in a row coming up against in London against Dylan Gabriel and the Cleveland Browns. Let's pivot to baseball. Postseason. How you doing? Keep it moving. This man led the NL in home runs this year for the Philadelphia Phillies. He's an IU Hoosier, absolute icon and legend. Three time all star World Series champion. Ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Schwarber. Ball. How you doing, Schwarbo?

[F]

What's up, guys? How we doing?

[A]

Hey, dude. Do you know. Do you remember how you did a game day? I think you did really well. Picking games at game day. Do you recall that? And did you keep up with that afterwards?

[F]

If I recall, I think I was the leading picker that season. Finished 8.

[A]

1. Are they keeping score or not? Oh, yeah. There is. There is a leaderboard. Okay. I'll be.

[F]

There was a leaderboard.

[A]

Yeah. And I'll be at the top of it, I guess. Crush it. And you looked the coolest. Let's talk about what you have going on in your life right now. Obviously, we're post season baseball. You guys have the longest season out of any. I mean, 162 games is crazy to think about. Postseason, though you've had a lot of success in it. Obviously the Phillies have as well. Do you guys ramp it up like in football? Regular season has a speed, playoffs have a speed, super bowl has a speed. Is that the same for baseball and how does that kind of work?

[F]

Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of those things where it's unsaid. It's, you know, you play 162 to get to this point, right? Like 160, 162 games. You know, you get evaluated, you get everything based off 162. Now when you come into the postseason, you're not getting, you know, you get a postseason share, but it's not like you're getting your normal check for 162 games. You know, this is, you know, all about pride. This is about a team. This is about us figuring out how to win a game, how to win a series, that stats don't matter. No one cares if someone's hitting.500, someone's in 100. It's did you win the game or did you lose the game? And I think that's the beautiful part about the postseason, that it just brings out the best in everyone and the senses get heightened, the fans are heightened. Right? This, everything is to another level. And you know, for us right now, we're, you know, we're not playing the, the postseason's going on. We're just, you know, we got the left.

[A]

Oh, no.

[D]

Oh, no.

[F]

He's saying trying to get everyone healthy, but we're still trying to an environment. We're trying to create an environment that's going to be post season. Like we have an inter squad game tonight. We're going to have 30,000 people that are watching us play Intersquad and it's going to be a lot.

[A]

Hold on, hold on. Is that breaking news? I didn't know that was happening. There's going to be open intersquad so that maybe you don't get rusty during this time. Is this something that you guys have done in the past? Because in baseball, like, especially with 162, feels like there's a rhythm, feels like there's a schedule, feels like there's all those things. So whenever you sit out these games just. It happened in college football actually. The teams have got all the first round buys because they were so much better than a. Everybody else actually lost out on like two weeks of ball. Kind of got rusty, had to get re awoke. You guys feel that way in baseball and how long have you done things like this? This is awesome at right before, especially with how your fans are over there. That place a real home field advantage. 30,000 people will be there tonight. Does this happen on a regular basis?

[F]

This doesn't. This doesn't happen normally.

[A]

We.

[F]

So last year we act. We had an inner squad and obviously there was, you know, friendly wagering going on between all the players. You know, we wanted to make this feel like this is worth something, that we're just not going through the motions. And now you just add in 30,000 people into our stadium. And I'm like, who are. I'm thinking, I'm like, who are people going to be cheering for and who are people going to be booing tonight?

[A]

Offense. So this happens in football, as you know, in football training camp. Whenever fans come to the training camp, teams playing against each other, offense throws a 70 yard bomb on our number one corner, on our number one defense. The fans are going absolutely ape. You can have your ace out there. Somebody hits a bomb on. They're going to celebrate the home run, I think. Do you think so or no?

[F]

Oh, I mean they're going to be going wild for any run that's being scored tonight. I'm like it, it's going to be interesting, it's going to be fun. But like, this is just for us to stay in that rhythm, right? Like it's just making sure that when we do. Yo, we know that whoever comes out of this series between the Reds and the Dodgers, you know, they're going to be primed up, they're going to be juiced up. They just want a big series and now it's on us to match that intensity. And coming out out of the gate where, you know, they just played a high, high intensity series and we, you know, we're playing an inner squad, so we got to match that level anyway that we can.

[A]

Hey, let's make sure these Johns bring it. They're John's. The 30,000 Johns are a big part of this entire thing. Let's make sure we're bringing it. They're trying to match what L. A felt like last night.

[D]

Right?

[A]

For show. Hey, I mean, let's. I think they'll step up to the challenge. If I know anything about the people from Philly. AJ has a brand new haircut, if you would like to talk about it. He's a low fade. And other than that, he does have a question for you. Schwabo. Yeah, Kyle. So I was, I don't know if you watched the Ryder cup at all, but the US had a hard time draining putts and they were talking about, hey, sometimes when golf is weird, when you try, you continue to try harder and harder and it means more, you actually play worse. I feel like baseball, especially playoff baseball, is it ever like that when you're sitting there and you're in a batter's box? Not you specifically, but if you've seen players to where they put too much on it, like how do you, yeah. Treat it like this is, we understand the, what this is, but it's just another game, you know, I got to be free flowing and not sitting there and I'll panic the whole time.

[F]

Correct. You know, I feel like, and you know, and I, I, I can give you a specific instance. Last at bat game. 162 top, bottom of the ninth inning. I'm leading off. I'm like, I'm like, I'm going deep here. I can just, I'm going to try to go deep, try to end this thing and I look like a freaking idiot, right? Like just, just like not taking your swing, not taking anything you're pulling off, you're doing, you're doing bad things, right? And it's like, why would I ever do that? Why would I tell myself the one time I'm going to tell myself I'm going to try to go deep. You're definitely not going deep. You're going to roll it over the second base and you're going to look like a, like a ding dong. So just, just do what you normally do, you know, like that's, that's the thing is like just because everything's heightened, the senses are heightened, that it doesn't mean you have to be Superman. We're, we're all great. We're all great. Really good at what we do. And just with them being in, you know, say the postseason or say the Ryder cup, these are the best of the best. Right. That you just being you is going to be great enough, you know, and with you without you having to go out there and reach for more, I feel like that, that just brings out a lesser version of yourself. So the more that you stay within your side yourself, stay within yourself and you know that all the Preparation that you've done before the game or on the putting greens or on the, your practice round, whatever it is that all that work that you just put into that, all the tournaments before that, all the games before that, you know, those. That, that mindset that you had in all those games is going to work out way more than it would if you try to go out there and try to be the Superman or whoever it is and trying to do some more extra things. This just be you and see what happens. Because you're good. You're already good enough.

[A]

Maybe you need to go coach that team. And I love the messaging you just out there. Yeah, that sounds like a guy who wears a C on his chest. We appreciate that messaging. And I also like the fact we're trying to hit ding dongs, not be ding dongs. You know, we don't, we don't do anything of that. And whenever you're, whenever you're, whenever you're in the the highest mind moments, don't you think this. As a punter, kicker that I was, I was more of like, I'm an athlete. I'll put the ball there. You know, I played so much soccer. I was a very good ball striker in soccer. Could put the ball wherever the hell I wanted, really. So I treated like football similar like that. My God, I'll just put the ball through there. Yeah, but what are you focusing on, Matt? I'm just going to put. I'm just going to put the ball through the uprights. Then in the biggest moments, they come and it's like, oh, what am I going to think about here? What do I need to do for this to happen? And didn't really have it then. You rely on your fundamentals in the biggest moments, like, you legitimately rely on your fundamentals. And it's all your work that builds your fundamentals. And I think all that goes into being confident, like, I think what you just broke down there is having confidence in your process. And it's like when you start getting outside of yourself, you don't believe that what you did was enough, you know, and that's, that's like a phrasing or a way to kind of put your mindset so you don't do it. It's like, do you trust and believe in yourself? Yeah. All right, we'll go fucking do it then. As a posed to. I didn't prepare enough. Oh, my God. This is, this is not. I should not be here right now because I've been there. And that is not. That's Not a fun place to be with a lot of eyes on you. And baseball is like that. Every single pitch. On that note, about every single pitch. And you thinking to yourself, oh, I'm going long here. I'm going to pump one. Ty has a question for you.

[D]

Yeah, Schwarbo. Playoff baseball, obviously situational hitting is paramount. Need to have it. And anytime you look at the box score, it seems like the, typically the teams who perform better with runners in scoring position always win those games. But for you specifically, like, I know you just kind of mentioned it there, but be honest, like, are you trying to hit a homer every single time? The way how violently you swing, it's just ridiculous. When you make contact, it does seem like you are going to hit a homer. And is that, is that kind of a conversation between you and your manager where it's like, hey, listen, like we, we understand, you know, with the way our lineup's constructed, like, that's just what we need from you. We need you to hit homers and we need you to drive in runs. And you obviously led the NL in both of those categories.

[F]

So the answer to question no, I don't try. And I feel like that's a product of, you know, like I said, like, if I'm going to try to do that, that it's just not good. And literally my process every time I'm, I'm at the plate is, you know, I have my game plan, I have everything that, you know, I've watched the video, I've watched this guy pitch, but it all just comes back to staying through the middle of the field and trying to hit a low line drive, right? Like the low line drive is probably the most perfect. You know, if you can go by anything, it's the most perfect struck baseball that you could have versus, you know, you gotta think about if you're hitting the middle of baseball, it's going to come off low and come off hot, right? So now if I go a little bit down, that's where you start getting your fly balls that start when you get your, your higher line drives. That's home runs, that's doubles, right? And so if I'm just telling myself I'm going to stay through the middle of the field and I'm going to give myself the most margin of error, right? I'm going to stay through the middle field. So if I'm early, it's going to right center, I'm a little bit late going to left center perfectly on time, going to center and then, you know, taking the Result from there. You know, like I said, our game's so such a process. It's a process, case based game with you're having outcomes and you can do everything right and you can be out and then you can do everything wrong in your process and you can still get a hit. You know, it's just, it's such a weird game. We're on, we're on offense, we don't have the ball and they're just chucking it at us, right? So you gotta, you gotta, you just gotta put yourself in a really good space and you gotta feel like you're just going out there competing at the end of the day and feeling like, you know, and yes, when situations do arise, you know, say a guy on second, nobody out, right, My, now my thought process goes to, okay, I want to drive this guy in, but at the very least I'm going to get him over there, third base. So now I'm starting to lean towards middle to right side of the field, you know, versus okay, now a guy on third base, less than two outs infield, might be back. All right, I'm taking my shot here to put the ball in play on any kind of strike. And I want to get this run in. You know, those are, those are things that, when the situation calls for things like you have to be able to mold your game to the situation because it's not like it's nobody up, nobody on, nobody out, or nobody on two outs, right? Like you might take more of a shot with nobody on, two outs to try to hit an extra base hit. Because now, okay, I'm at second base or I'm a third base, I just hit a home run, whatever it is. You just scored a run versus okay, guy on second base or guy on first base, nobody out. I'm trying to hit this hole right here, trying to get first and third, you know, so those are just all different things.

[A]

Oh, you guys in your head think, I didn't know. I didn't know. You do thinking over there. I thought big strong man walks into box. Big strong man walk into box. He designated hitter. Just go ahead and sweet. What does he do? Nothing. He designated hitter. He just goes in there. The amount of gamesmanship that's going into it is beautiful to hear. I, I really, the more intel, the better for me. I was just completely enthralled by everything you're saying. When do you know it's a pitch? When do you know or when do you know it's a strike? I'm sorry, when do you know it's coming out of the hand because normally situation will tell you that maybe a strike is coming here. And then as soon as it leaves the hand is when you know it's a strike. Like when do you know it's a hittable ball?

[F]

Oh, man, that's a great question. I mean, you watch all the video, you watch all this and you're trying to picture everything that comes into what's coming out of the guy's hand. And obviously if you have experience off the guy previously, so you have a better idea of what the ball is going to be coming out of his hand, but you know, yeah, it's pretty much coming right out of the hand and you're trying to set yourself in a good, you're trying to set your sights in a good spot the where the ball is coming out. So that should be a strike. You know, a lot of guys have four or five pitches now, so it's not like, you know, I can just say that some two pitch guy, it's fastball, slider, and most starters all got five pitches. So now you're just trying to really put yourself. You put your eyes in a really good spot out there. So when that ball does come out, you're recognizing you're on a fastball and then you're able to recognize some off speed and trying to limit your chase, you know, trying to limit that spot to where your eyes could go, telling you that could be a strike. But then all of a sudden it drops off the table, it's not a strike, and you're swinging in the dirt.

[A]

Then you look like a Ding Dong and we don't want to be looking.

[F]

Like you look like. Yeah, you look like a Ding Dong.

[A]

And we don't want to look like a Ding Dong.

[F]

First off, first off, what we're trying to do, don't look like a Ding Dong at the plate, but hit Ding Dongs. But don't be a Ding Dong.

[A]

Yes, yes. I don't look like one. Don't be one. Definitely hit them. Yeah, we want the Ding Dongs to be hit, but we don't want to be looking or being like it. Okay, tonight, 30,000 people for an intra squad scrimmage. Connor has a last question for you. We appreciate you.

[B]

Yeah, Schwarball, we've seen the clips.

[A]

I mean, some of the highlights that have been shown of you hitting, you know, dingers in the playoffs have been amazing. What is that setup like? What is the atmosphere like in Philly?

[B]

We went there for Wrestlemania, brother.

[A]

When our tribal Chief probably should have won the strap, but. But that's neither here nor there. The casino being right next to the baseball stadium, that seems like a pretty diabolical setup. Just because win, probably good vibes. Lose. There's some. There's some dangerous areas over there. Just in Philly as angry Philly people. After a team loses, what is it like? And is that something that you guys kind of hang your hat on when playing at home, that the fans are going to have your back?

[F]

It really is. I'll never forget it. So 2022, we go to an Eagles game, and I think it was their home opener. And we're all looking at each other like, whoa, this place is. This place is an animal box right now. These people are going wild and we're like, I would love to play in this kind of atmosphere. So then, like, we go on this, like, 10 games. We have a 10 game road trip. We clinch the playoffs. You know, we play the wild card series in St. Louis and we go to Atlanta. We play the first two games there. We've been on the road for like a freaking month. And then we come back, the Citizens Bank. We step out there for, you know, they start calling our names and stuff. It was like. It felt like a football game. I'm like, holy shit, this is awesome. I'm like, this, this is. It gives you goosebumps. Like, you just don't expect that. And that's like, it's. That's that addicting feeling. That's that, like, that's that itch that you have every single night when you go to sleep that you can't close your eyes because all you're looking forward to is getting back to that environment. And like, it's just addicting. It's so much fun. That's why I say it's the best version of baseball. You get the best fans out, you get the best environments out there. And in Philly, I don't think anything can compare to where, you know, they're just, like I said, they're pouring everything they have into you. And if you're on the other team, good luck. I mean, I don't. I wouldn't want to hear some of the things that are being said to the outfielders or. Yeah, they're attached a bunch, the bullpens. Like, I mean, I remember when I was out there as an opposing player and the things that I would hear with, you know, 25, 30, 40,000 people there, I can't imagine 45 just rocking and rolling, ready for a postseason game. What they're. What they're going to be saying, but it's. It's literally the best. And that's why I'm like, I'm. I'm itching. You know, I'm ready for Saturday. I just. Friday, we're not going to be able to sleep.

[A]

Why don't we hit a Ding Dong tonight for the Johns? Why don't we hit a Ding Dong tonight? Okay. Hit a Ding Dong tonight, we'll donate some money to a charity. Okay? What? You pick the charity. We'll donate some money. You hit a Ding Dong tonight and have the Johns go crazy. Okay, let's do it.

[F]

Let's do it then.

[A]

Let's put a little bit more on the line, too.

[D]

Yeah, there you go.

[A]

You said you guys were having a little bit in the first time you did one of these. Like, hey, boys, we need to take this thing seriously. How about for every dong that is hit tonight, we'll donate a certain amount of money? We'll figure out what that money is because we have no idea how many Ding Dongs are going to be hit tonight. We'll certainly look into that to figure that whole thing out. Just know the boys, though. Tell the boys we're on their side. We want tonight to be a big one. Ding Dong donations coming from us for you guys tonight. And enjoy the rest of your run. Thank you for your time.

[F]

Appreciate you guys. Love it. Thank you, guys. You guys are the best. Have a good one. All right.

[A]

Ding Dong donations. Okay. Don't be a Ding Dong. Don't look like a Ding. Hit them, though. Hit Ding Dong. Hit a lot of the. Your man. Ladies and gentlemen. Cow war.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

How many are gonna happen at that thing? So many.

[C]

17.

[A]

They're gonna start feeding just meat pitches to them. They're gonna have a whole segment of the game when they know about this, obviously. Now, Meatballs. Yeah. Run the video on the Jumbotron. Don't know if you guys heard this earlier. Yeah, guys, don't. Don't tell Pat, but we're basically gonna do a glorified BP right here. They're just gonna be hitting dinger after dinger. Need the crowd to react in a. Need you guys to have energy every time. Act as if it's not stage. Oh, yeah. A lot of surprises. We'll get them.

[D]

What if they hit like 35 homers?

[A]

I did not put a number. Good move, because I do not know what this is. 30, 000 people showing.

[D]

I've never heard of that before. That's awesome.

[A]

You know who else is doing that? The Mariners.

[D]

Are they.

[A]

The Mariners are doing a. I just saw either. A tweet about. Yeah. Today's postseason Scrimmage. Tweeted on October 4, first by the Seattle Mariners Twitter account. I believe that is them. Yes. 738,000. Today's postseason scrimmage game just got a little more fun. Hall of Famer Ichiro oh will be patrolling right field for the home team. Oh, hell yeah. There's still time to snag a $10 ticket. The Mariners are also doing one of these. This is a good idea. I like that our teams are doing this.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Can we stream these? Got to be. Got to be a platform to stream these at somewhere. Joining us now, he's a man who. I'll tell you what. I don't know if he's on his team or not. Ichiro's gonna steal a fucking homer from this guy. Yeah, for sure. No questions asked. Tonight. This guy hits more Ding Dongs than anybody else in the league. Plays catcher, hits from both sides of the plate. That plate's never been more surrounded by greatness than whenever this man steps onto that diamond. We got a chance to chit chat with him during the All Star breakout at the Home Run Derby where he and his entire family stole the show, ladies and gentlemen. They call him Big Dumper because he has a fat ass. That's from all the squatting, lifting, and the explosivity that this man has throughout his entire core. This is Cal Rawley. Dumper. What's up, dude?

[F]

Hey, how we doing, guys?

[A]

Hey, thank you for joining us. Mustache looks phenomenal. I think that's a very good look. I know you got a little scruff McGruff down here. Are you gonna go with just mustache throughout the playoffs or have we thought about an idea of how we're going to look yet?

[F]

No, I got to clean it up a little bit. It's getting a little messy, so might wait till a couple of days from now to get it cleaned up before the game.

[A]

Can you do a twisty doohoo on this? Can you get a mustache to do the twisty? Woo. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah.

[F]

Put the wax in it. I can't. No, not yet. It's not quite there. So.

[A]

But if we were to go on a run here, maybe by World Series. Let's not think about that though. Let's think about what's right in front of us. You guys have a scrimmage tonight. That Ichiro is going to be in right field. Is that accurate? What are you guys expecting? We just talked to Schwarbo. You know, I think you just heard us chit chatting about it. They're gonna have 30,000 people. They said that they're trying to match what the intensity could be or at least the emotions. A little bit of what the team that they're gonna be playing against has right now during their wild card series. Is this similar for you guys? And what are you expecting tonight, Cal?

[F]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I have no idea how many people are gonna show up. Hopefully a lot. You know, it'll be really hard to match playoff atmosphere, you know, but you know, if we can, it'd be great. And yeah, looking forward to it. Isro out there, not surprised. You know, that guy's. That guy's here every day working out and so he'll be probably more ready than anybody else.

[A]

So every dong you hit tonight will donate. Okay. Just like we did for Swarbo. We appreciate you taking every ding dong you hit tonight. We will, we will donate. It's going to have to be captured though. Oh yeah. And he's going to have to be real pitches. You know, we don't need your dad out there pitching. That was bull. We're not doing that entire thing. Let's talk about your team. Let's talk about the run. First time you guys have won the AL west since 2001. Obviously it's special time in Seattle. A lot of people saying Cal Rawley, big dumper is the driver behind all of this. Do you feel the pressure? Do you feel the excitement? Like, how do you kind of view this special season that you have had in Seattle?

[F]

Yeah, you know, we're really excited. Obviously, you know, do something that hasn't been done in 20 plus years in the city. So we're all really excited. But you know, it's just, it's just a great opportunity ahead. You know, looking, looking forward to it. You know, really looking, looking forward to, to getting to playing. You know, watching these wild card games, you know, gets you a little antsy and you know, makes you want to get out there. So we're excited. We got some work to do and you know, looking forward to that first series.

[A]

Go ahead, A.J. yeah, we mentioned Ichro. Are there any other, you know, old school legends that aren't playing anymore that you kind of leaned on throughout your career maybe? There's so many. I just know so many baseball guys, you know, they have these 15, 20 year careers. They have unbelievable stories and unbelievable wisdom. I feel like to give to you guys or anyone you've leaned on over the years.

[F]

Yeah, I mean, I think the one, no off top of my head, Justin Turner, he's with the Cubs right now. He's had a 15, 15 year career and I got a chance to play with him last year and he's been a real, real help to me in my career and these last, you know, last year or so. So he's such a smart guy and, you know, those guys have such, such so much knowledge about the game and they've been around for so long, they've seen so many things. You know, we got Edgar Martinez on staff, hall of Famer.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[F]

Dan Wilson played 12 years behind the plate manager. So, you know, it always helps when you got, you got guys like that who have done it before and guys who have seen a lot of. Seen a lot of things.

[A]

Nobody's seen you in a long, long time, brother. What you're doing for switch hitters is obviously historic as you've seen all the stats. Baseball is a game of a lot of stats. You are a man that is becoming the top of a lot of those stats. How do the obliques feel? How do both sides of the plate feel? How does the bat. How's the lefty bat feel? How's the righty bat feel right now going into playoffs? How's Cal Raleigh seeing it?

[F]

Yeah, everything's good. You know, we had our first workout yesterday. You know, body feels good. You know, you won't, you probably won't be feeling much on that first game. You can ask a lot of baseball players, you know, getting out there in front of that crowd and, you know, you got 40 plus thousand, you know, waving towels and chanting. So, you know, you'll be kind of floating around out there, which will be fun.

[A]

Is it a pool or a pull? It's an oblique. What, what, what is the, what is the workout on both sides that you need to have? And if guys don't hit from both sides of the plate, what muscles do they have on one half of their body that are much stronger than the other? Like for you, what are you training? Is it a pool? What, what is the.

[F]

Yeah, I mean, I guess it's. Yeah, I guess it's a pole. I haven't really thought about it. It's just rotating, really. You know, it's a lot of rotating. A lot of, A lot of core, a lot of men, a lot of med ball tosses.

[A]

Like a lot of caboose.

[F]

Yeah, well, that's different, but still need the booth. Yeah, you need to be. You need to be strong. So it's. I mean, it's a long season. You got to be able to, you know, be able to take some hits here and there and, you know, make sure your body can handle it. You gotta have a little extra padding back there.

[A]

Now, on that note, you've had to squat. You know, every single pitch on defensive side. Okay?

[C]

Every single pitch.

[A]

We're part of this thing. That's why the ass is the ass. You know, we're part of this thing. You should do that.

[F]

All show.

[A]

Well, I couldn't, you know, and that's why I just want to showcase how impressive it is. That was four right there. Bodyweight, squat. Jeez. Okay, that's five. Okay. How many pitches are in these things?

[D]

He's probably catching, you know, anywhere from like a 150 on a normal day.

[A]

As 150, let alone warm ups, right? We're doing warm ups. Stop doing it. You're coming down, coming out, Right? We're doing that with people that aren't there. I mean, this is this entire thing. And then you're still leading one at bat right there. That's. Yeah, yeah. Ball. I need a ball. Yeah, yeah. And then obviously.

[D]

Yep, there you go.

[A]

It's a fun game. Yeah. I don't know how you're in and. Oh, someone's coming down. It's a missed throw. I don't have anything. You stupid say there's a lot of that, you know, you got all that going on. What you've done, hitting homers and doing all that has obviously been very commendable by a lot of people. Okay. That is something that I think very difficult for you. Is this just new normal now? Like. Like all off season? I assume this is just what you've prepared for and what you've trained for. But there's a reason why nobody's been able to do it from the catcher position because of how much body. There's, like, so much on it. Pitchers what rest every four days because how much they have going on, it's like what you put your body through this year is a lot. I think what catchers put their bodies through are a lot on a regular basis. But now that you're so prolific offensively, has there been any conversations about what the future looks like for you, or. No, we're just. This is life. This is who I am.

[F]

Yeah. No, I mean, you know, for me, it's, you know, you know, an everyday thing. So, you know, I'm going to be catching and, you know, we're focused on, you know, obviously the now, you know, and I mean, you know, later in careers, you know, you see guys that, you know, can hit a little bit from the catching position, they'll start to work in at first base, you know, or dh. You look at like a Buster Posey, Salvador Perez, guys have had some time over there. Even Johnny Bench, back in the day, he moved off a catcher and played some other positions just to give himself a few days. So it's kind of part of the territory. So. But for now, you know, I still feel strong, still feel good back there. I'm able to stay healthy and stay strong and, and competitive. So do it for as long as I can.

[A]

Yeah, and you're part of it. You know, like catcher is very much in everything. So taking a step back, I assume would be very weird for you. Especially when my father's a catcher, my little brother is a catcher, My father's father's father was a catcher. Okay, so you're in it, you're in it, you're in it. But with how prolific you are offensively, I know it's conversation. I mean, with Shohei, they're talking about Shohei, like, ah, he showed pit. He throw one on one. He's throwing like being that good offensively is all you need. And then the conversation with you is like gonna be tough to get cow out from back behind a plate, whatever. It's like the guy loves it. And then Ty even said first base is normally where catchers will head to, so they're still a part, like still got a good glove, still got good defense. You need you out there. Because DH is just naturally the thought, this guy could be a DH till he's 60. Think about the days where he doesn't have to squat 150 time, certainly. And then he's just hitting it. That's like I couldn't even imagine thinking about it all now. Let's chit chat a little bit about this magical run. Go ahead, Ty.

[D]

Yeah, Cal. Being in the middle of it and obviously, you know, you guys still have a lot left in front of you and you're trying to win a World Series, but did you have like any chance to kind of sit back and embrace all that pressure and enjoy the moment knowing like, hey, we're in the middle of a division race right now that you ultimately won and then you're in a T2 headed, you know, race to win MVP. Like, have you got to sit back yet a little bit and be like, wow, I just had like one of the most impressive years in like the. Especially for. In the history of catching but in the history of baseball as a whole. And then I also have to say, after you guys clinch you, you're owed to Tom Behringer and saying, you know, hey, the only thing left to do is win the whole thing. Awesome, awesome. But have you got a chance to sit back and kind of just reflect on everything?

[F]

No, I mean, that's a good question. I. I really haven't, I guess. You know, last week, you know, clinching and then winning the division, you know, getting to kind of just sit back and take that all in and, you know, really let your guard down with the guys. You know, celebrating like that, that was. I'd say that was the most fun moment. And you can try and kind of just look over the whole thing. And I was able to hit 60 on the night we won the division, which was crazy. So it's just been, it's been a crazy year. I mean, you know, I signed the extension right before the season started and then all this happened and then you throw in the all star week, winning the derby with my dad and brother, you know, division race, you know, people start talking about you a little more with the home runs and all that and you know, you see yourself on TV a little more often than you probably want to and.

[A]

Yeah, so it's just that Ash, you know, that is.

[F]

It's been a crazy year.

[A]

Well, it's been a fun year to follow for us. And the nickname being the nickname is obviously fantastic for the sports culture, but you've lived up to the billing, brother. You talked about that Home Run Derby. Your name was being talked about going into the Home Run Derby. And I think many a times the names that are hyped going in of the derby don't end up winning. You showing up and doing it and then continuing your season the way you have. We all just think you're a dog, dude. That is literally what we all think. And I think that's a beautiful thing. Now maybe renegotiation. Okay. You know, we just got a deal done before this season. I'm not going to. I know you guys got a lot of negotiation going on in baseball right around the corner with all of it. But I think there should be some incentives that have certainly been touched there. Now let's about talk. Talk about looking ahead as a brainiac player. Go ahead, aq.

[B]

I remember when I was in the NFL and we had a first round buy in the playoffs. You started to prepare for both teams that Upcoming week with two potential opponents. Do you guys take a peek at both of them or do you wait until you know exactly who you're playing?

[F]

Yeah, you know, we're. We're here at the field right now, and obviously, you know, they got the games on and we're all watching and, you know, it's chatter throughout the whole thing. You know, Cleveland, Detroit, we're watching obviously, them closely. And, you know, once that's decided, we'll key in a little more closely on that one team. So. But for now, you know, I think it's just trying to stay sharp. You know, it's finding that right balance of, you know, making sure you get your rest, but also staying, you know, physically strong, staying kind of in shape. Now you're going to get out of shape, but you know what I mean? You got to get those normal reps and try to keep everything normal and as. As. As normal as it possibly can be for this week because, you know, we're gonna be doing some scrimmages, obviously not the real thing, but try to keep those reps as normal as possible. So we'll key in a little more, you know, later in this week, and for now, it's. It's really more about the. Focuses on us, so.

[A]

Well, good luck tonight against Ichiro. He's gonna rob your shit. Yeah, definitely. I can't wait to watch that. The fastest recorded opening pitch we just got that stat sent over by Zito 94 miles an hour was Ichiro in 2022. He threw the opening pitch in full uniform.

[D]

That's it.

[C]

You, baby.

[A]

Do you remember that? Yeah.

[C]

Didn't he. Is this was it you beat up on the middle schoolers? Middle school baseball.

[B]

Oh, I did see that.

[D]

Yeah, it was. Yeah.

[A]

The way you phrased that made me think something else, but, yeah, so what? I didn't.

[D]

I don't think he's hitting in, like, a high school school game and just.

[C]

Oh, high school.

[D]

Yeah. Just ripping ropes to every part of.

[A]

The field, picking where he was hitting it. Right. Yeah. So why isn't he on your guys, too?

[D]

Yeah, he was pitching, too. That's right.

[A]

So you said he's in the building every single day. Is he just on the T, is he not good?

[D]

Put him on the 26, man.

[A]

So how's this work? Like, he'll pitch tonight against you, too. How's this go? And then, like, on a random Wednesday, you guys just like, oh, let's go do some bp and Ichiro's music hits, and he comes out in the full Uniform and it's like, it's not bp. It's actually Ichiro Day. And he pitches against you guys? He's around all the time. You're set? Basically.

[F]

Yeah, all the time. I mean, he's there all spring training. He's there every home game that we have. He's always stressed out. Full, you know, full gear. Got the pants, the cleats, everything. He's. I mean, he's not messing around. So he used to. I mean, he used to throw us live bp. And even in spring training or in the cage, you ask Ichi, hey, can. Can I get a little, you know, live BP action? He'd go in there and he just carved guys up. I know he's broke multiple of my bats before, so, you know, just, you know, and he takes it seriously. He's not. He's not messing around. He's trying to get you out in there. And, you know, obviously it's a little different because he's behind the L screen, but, I mean, he's letting it rip.

[A]

That might be a secret weapon. That's not so secret anymore.

[C]

He's an asshole, though.

[A]

What's that?

[C]

I didn't like what he said about the Marlins doing his hall of Fame speech.

[D]

That was awesome.

[A]

What'd he say?

[C]

Took a little jab.

[A]

What was it, Ty, if you had to just.

[D]

He basically said like, you know, he thanked all the teams he played for. And then he was like, and, you know, I went down to Miami to end my career. He's like, before I got there, I didn't even know you guys had a baseball team. It was awesome.

[A]

Yeah, but still shot.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

He did learn, obviously.

[D]

And everybody laughed.

[A]

Yeah, Big pop out everybody. But to Marlin. All right, Cal, we appreciate the hell out of you, brother.

[F]

Yeah, always great seeing you guys. Thank you.

[A]

Hey, ding dong donations tonight for this inter squad thing. Let's go. We don't know what the price is yet. We'll let you know. You. We will certainly hope that the Mariners keep us updated on how many. How many big balls this big dumper hit tonight. Why not all of them? You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Cal Rawling. Yeah, Cal. I win the mvp.

[B]

He should especially, you know, with how it's going now.

[A]

What do you mean with how it's going now? Just, you know, with how important it is, what he's doing, with how important the catcher is, the game. Baseball. We know, it's like the tight end all of a sudden. It's coming back. It's having a resurgence. It's it. That's the perfect way to put maybe almost like a tight end with a.

[B]

Little nickel corner perhaps, because he also.

[A]

Has to catch the ball and he.

[B]

Has to have like a real arm.

[A]

Not like a noodle arm.

[D]

We'll see.

[A]

We'll see.

[D]

I don't know if I'd be doing this only up one game because, you know. But I get it. They lost last night. You gotta do what you gotta do.

[A]

Sinatra came on shuffle this morning. I think.

[B]

I think Boston might claim Sinatra by.

[A]

The end of tonight. Don't look out Yankees. Follow up on that. What does that mean?

[B]

Frank Sinatra just, you know, One of.

[A]

The goats is one of his big songs. What do they play?

[D]

Yeah. The theme from New York, New York.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Start spreading the news.

[A]

When the end. So why don't you say a little bit? Yeah. They said to the stars right in the news, blah, blah, blah, blah. People, don't forget Aaron Judge.

[B]

You know, he put a speaker on.

[A]

His shoulder and he bumped that leaving Fenway park when they were up 20 a few years ago. And then what happened? St. Spreading the news. What happened? Socks 1 3, 2 in the series. So. Oh, whoa. I'm calling confident. I'm confident and I should be. I watched 162 now. 163.

[B]

But I. I still feel as though, you know, Judge could do it.

[D]

We'll see. You gotta win tonight. You gotta win tonight.

[A]

I don't like the way these Yankees fans have. Certainly I haven't. I don't.

[D]

I don't like Bruce pulling out the. We don't have Garrett Cole right now. But that. That's not the mentality we need going into tonight, Bruce. And you know that. You know, it's of. In July when they were popping gold bottles up at Fenway declaring us dead. I love it.

[A]

Okay. All right, Bruce. I hope that's the case. Let's get back to the NFL. Obviously, we had an incredible weekend of ball. As we look forward to week five, let's go ahead and look back a little bit with a takeaway. A what are your takeaways from last weekend of the NFL season?

[B]

The first one is Tush Push Evolution.

[A]

Oh, I like a little Tush Push Evolution by the Philadelphia Eagles. You know, they were taking on vidave and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Vita Vegas, he took advantage of Tush Push before he stopped that thing, he stared Tush Push down and said, actually, uz pushed back and stopped it in its entirety. Now they decided to run a couple gimmicks. I appreciate that. Aq. So do you.

[B]

It appears it's ironic that they did it against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in Big Vita and they go Old School, 1930s. Give it to the Galloping Ghost in the wing te and go sweep off the left side. Yeah, that was pretty sweet.

[A]

Yeah, Wing tea. Galloping Ghost. Really well there. You did really well there. What else?

[B]

Now, this looks a little different because you don't have the guys behind Jaylen Herz, but his footwork, normally when he's just under center, his feet are neutral. You can tell he is selling a quarterback sneak. But guess what? Look to the right, quads to the right. Blow up diamond shape. Shuffle over to Goddard, walk it right in.

[A]

Oh, innovation here. Some innovative stuff. There was no tush to be pushed, but there was certainly a dive to be had. Not so fast, my friends. Underhand toss to Goddard. You got numbers over there. Let's go ahead and take advantage of it.

[B]

Absolutely. And that's a really cool formation right there. You don't see it very often. Whenever they go quads with four to one side, make a little diamond. You see that? It's a bunch with a guy behind and they just got three blockers. You want walk in the end zone and A.J.

[A]

Brown said, I can't take the scoop. Come on.

[D]

Good block by A.J. brown on the backside, though.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Great effort.

[A]

Oh, yeah, great effort. AJ Hawk, AJ Brown, AJ's watch that guy. Yeah, exactly. I'm a big physical body.

[C]

I can catch this and fall into the.

[A]

Yeah, you're right. Everybody wants that spot. Okay, is there any others that we need to see or is it just those two?

[B]

No, we got a lot of meat.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Here'S what this means. Here's what this means is we've seen the way that offensive coordinators over the past couple of years have game plan, tight ends that can't block. And so what you've seen over the years, if you've seen McVeigh, you've seen Shanahan, you've seen all these creative guys put the tight end and they bluff and they put them on a linebacker because they know they can't win at the point of attack. Teams this year have said, forget it. You know what we're going to do? We're going to put a big O lineman and we're going to go jumbo. We're going to get all the meat in there.

[A]

Yeah, because there has certainly been a run here of D line dominating games. You look at the Philadelphia Eagles. They have four number one picks on the D line and they were able to just cause absolute chaos for everybody. And if you can get home with four, then obviously you do some quick math. That's 14 eyes looking at the quarterback and everything else going on. And you can obviously swarm and tackle everything very well without having to bring extra pressure. You're sitting in what we like to call a great spot defensively. Echo the sentence.

[C]

Absolutely. Four man rushes, everything.

[A]

And on that note, if you're able to block those four guys now the defense has to bring extra mint. So whenever you bring somebody from, you know, watching in coverage into rushing, all of a sudden. What's that? Oh, it's more space on the backside there. Now, how do we protect that? Know that we're going to be protected, Bring in another big fat ass offensive lineman.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

I like that they're doing it, especially with how athletic all these big guys have gone.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Because there's a chance one of these guys could be a setup to get the ball, especially with where they're lined up. I appreciate the protection. Now you're talking about Kansas City doing this for Patrick Mahomes. Seems like a smart idea. Yeah.

[B]

We're going to look at this first play. Kansas City has Caliendo right there on the right side, not Frank Caliendo. Calendo is going to fake, sell the power to the right. They're going to toss it back to Worthy and Now watch Big 66 get out front. Take the rookie, Malachi Starks. He's the reason this is a home.

[A]

Run run love that got Xavier Worthy back for them. And so a lot of meat has become a trend. Obviously, the Pittsburgh Steelers had Darnell Washington, who's 6 foot 7, 290 pounds, tight end out of Georgia, playing tight end, but mostly just blocking everybody. There he is, number 80 on the left side. And what is your last takeaway here as we are coming up quickly on a hard out. Aq Shipley.

[B]

Yeah. We got Steve Spagnola still bringing it. Let's take a look at.

[C]

Five Big Booms.

[A]

He's still bringing it.

[B]

I love it. He's still bringing it.

[A]

We're running out of time. All right, perfect.

[B]

Let's get to Nick Bolton right here. He's the key. Look at this. There's a pressure rush. He's not part of this blitz. But the minute he sees the running back block comes. Look at this pick.

[A]

Boom, boom, boom. All right. The Chiefs are still the Chief. Smack still the Chiefs. Smack still. Specs. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Okay, he nailed it hard. We really did good there. We really nailed.

[B]

Nailed it.

[A]

That's 100% on me. Baseball talk lasted a lot longer than I thought it was going to last. Boy, did it, cuz. Schwarbo was good. Yeah. Awesome. Then Cal Raleigh. So many questions, especially with the conversation that's been going on around you and Aaron Judge and Cal Raleigh.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

But you framed that in a very nice way because I think you are a fan of Cal Ry, the person.

[D]

I am, big time. And I'm also a fan of Cal R, the player. Which is why when we were starting doing this, I wasn't liking like the. Oh, no, I gotta. I don't want to be the guy who basically says, this guy, he doesn't deserve this. Because he does. He just doesn't deserve it more than Judge, in my humble opinion.

[A]

And you love her?

[D]

I do.

[C]

Just her. Seems like it.

[A]

Cal.

[C]

It's kind of. You know, it gets to that. Like last year, you know, with Lamar, he had like an MVP year, one of his. Probably his best years of pro. But Josh Allen, the moments, and it was kind of like, all right, you know, it's kind of this guy's turn. But if you casted a vote for either one of the guys, you probably felt good about your vote. I feel like it's the same with this race.

[A]

Yeah. And it just. Aaron Judge already got robbed out of one mvp.

[D]

I'm not thinking about that. I don't give a. Yeah, you gotta beat the Red Sox tonight. I don't give a if he wins MVP or not.

[A]

Okay. So mvp. Will you understand it if it means.

[D]

That the Yankees are gonna advance?

[A]

And I'm just saying, just in general, just at this moment.

[D]

No, he's not. He's not. He's had a special season. No, no two. No two questions about it. He's had a very special season.

[C]

He's not.

[D]

He's not the most valuable player judges. But if it means Judge is gonna win MVP and they get beat tonight, I don't give a. Yeah, what's another mvp? Who cares?

[A]

Are the socks hot right now? Dude. Dude.

[B]

The songs have never been hotter.

[A]

They're as ready that hat. They got real hot real quick. And now this is 2004. You know, this is your.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Damn near anniversary of this team. And this is the World Series hat. But we actually came back against the Yankees when we were down 3 0, something that they've never done.

[D]

So no one has ever done that other than the Red Sox.

[A]

My bad. So when it comes to Boston, it.

[D]

Does feel as Though this might be.

[B]

One of those magical years.

[D]

It feel.

[B]

It feels like they might have the.

[A]

Juice this year if the Yankees get eliminated before the postseason even starts. No, no, no, that can't happen. The Mets didn't even make. Mets didn't even make.

[B]

More like small apple. Oh.

[A]

Start spreading the news. I'm leaving today said primetime baseball. Yeah, I'm out of here. There's a chance.

[D]

There's a chance. But they're not dead yet.

[A]

Huge game. Yeah, huge. I mean, this is a huge.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Psy is going to be devastated if the Yankees get swept too old to the Red Sox in a wild card and kill them after.

[D]

Yes and no. Yes and no. I will obviously be devastated that they lost. If they lose, though, I believe that'll put quite a bit of pressure on. Hey, let's get here and boom.

[A]

The out here. Whoa, whoa. What if they win now? We keep them. What if it goes on a run?

[D]

Then good. Earn that paycheck. Earn that paycheck.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[D]

Hey, that walk off homer against Tim Wakefield was a long time ago. You can't live off that forever.

[A]

A.J. did you know this is how they feel? I mean, he's been loud about it. Yeah, I was watching Crochet. The. The Red Sox pitcher last night, he was. Was awesome. I love his delivery. I love his leg kick. I love his demeanor. Like, I don't think you were beating that guy last night. How about chat?

[D]

Well, they were beating that guy last night because the Yankees pitcher was much better. That was the one of the stupidest things you've ever said. When he left the game, Max Freed, they were up 1 0. They were beating.

[B]

Either way.

[A]

Doesn't matter. Either way.

[D]

I get it though. I get what you're saying, but you're wrong. They were beating that guy. And then Boone decided to go to the bull pen, which has been their Achilles heel all year. And within a span of two, two minutes, they were losing. And you knew. Oh, no. He set up a nice little lefty lane with the lineup here too. We're gonna have lefties going up against Aroldis Chapman, who's also lefty. And what happens, you know, right handed guys start off, get a hit. Even one of our lefty guys who hits lefties, well, Cody Bellinger, he gets a hit, basically is loaded. And then you get Stanton to strike out. And then what does he get? He gets a couple lefties to finish it off. Just how Alex Cora would have. Would have written it up if he could have in the most perfect situation. And that's what happened.

[A]

Chapman threw 101. Final pitch of the night. Just let it eat. Somebody threw a hundo on the 100th pith pitch. I don't remember who it was. 17th pitch.

[D]

Yeah, crochet. Yeah, Crochet threw his, like, hardest pitch of the season, I think got 117.

[C]

AJ was talking about got to let the athletes go.

[B]

I believe Crochet.

[A]

The stat I saw about him is he's the.

[B]

I think it's something about like he's.

[A]

The only starting pitcher to pitch all the way into the seventh and throw.

[B]

A pitch 100 miles an hour.

[A]

Like, going that far and still having that velocity.

[D]

He's a horse.

[A]

Which once again is why, if you ask Yankees fans, maybe we do lose this one because this guy's really good. The next two, certainly in your guys.

[D]

They have the advantage in the next two games. Yes.

[A]

What time's that game tonight?

[D]

6:08.

[A]

Which.

[D]

What are we doing?

[A]

What it's just want. Nobody wastes any time. Get there at 6:08. Make it.

[D]

Make that a 7:15 start time.

[A]

Oh, really?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You want to get a little bit more?

[D]

Well, yeah, cuz guess who's got to put their kids down to sleep and miss the first three innings. Me. Sick of it.

[A]

Okay. Especially imagine you come back down. Oh, it was a tough one too, by the way. A lot of rock and a lot of screaming. A lot of yelling right down. Come downstairs. Red Sox.

[D]

Yeah, they're up three nothing. Yeah. I'd rip my TV off the wall if that happened.

[A]

Don't do that. I still got a lot more innings. We still got a lot of baseball left, remember? I know, I know. Oh, my God. If The Yankees lose tonight, 2 0.

[D]

No, I feel good about tonight.

[A]

I do.

[D]

I do.

[C]

Who's on the call?

[D]

Rafi. So, okay. Yeah. Ravi, Eduardo Perez and Coney.

[A]

Did we hear Joe Buck on a call yesterday? We love Ravi, by the way.

[D]

Yeah, no, I'm. I'm surprised that they didn't have him do. I mean, I guess maybe travel from Monday night, it was too. Too much of a turnaround.

[A]

But that would have been a young Joe Buck thing. Yes, younger Joe Buck would have done.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And everybody would have been mad, but he would have Krisher. He would have crushed it. Not everybody. People would have been mad.

[D]

They should have had him do the Cubs game because his dad obviously was a legend for the Cardinals. And Cubs fans think that he just, like, hates them. Naturally. So that would have been a nice little.

[A]

But also back to back.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

That was awesome.

[D]

Sweet. Very sweet.

[A]

Wrigley was alive yesterday.

[D]

Yes, it was.

[A]

That's what this baseball season does. This particular season. Yeah. All right. We spent a lot of time on baseball. I feel like we did our part so much. Baseball is good to us. Hell, yeah.

[B]

Baseball player derby was so sick.

[A]

Baseball players are good.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And the baseball people were good to us, so we're very thankful for that. Remember, there was a little bit of a conversation. Hey, we want to go home run derby. Sorry, I won't have space. Who's we? The ESPN people say they don't have space. All right, we still want to go, though. So can we talk to the leak? Let's talk to the league. What's the league say? You guys want to host the fucking? Yeah. Thank you.

[D]

You want the commissioner and the two biggest players?

[A]

Do you want to introduce the hitters? Do you want to host the press conference?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

You want to play the game? They were so MLB people were so good to us, so we are so, so, so thankful for that. And also right now, baseball. Great. So let's remember that we need to keep it middle of the. Of the week.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Need to keep the middle of the week.

[D]

And it will be, you know, like, there will obviously be games on the weekend, but I do think they do a pretty good job of trying to make sure that these, like, really high marquee matchups aren't going on on NFL Sundays.

[A]

It's great for us.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's great for us as sports people, you know? Yeah. Because even there is some middle of the week football that'll come up.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Plus, it's a. Maxon had a run. Okay. Action Had a run. Run. And I'm not saying it won't.

[D]

Okay, I forgot. Today is the kickoff of the UFL free agent frenzy.

[A]

Oh, yes.

[C]

Oh, is that real?

[A]

Yes, it is uxfl. It's the ufl. And I will say we had a UXFL conversation yesterday. Are you sure? Well, I think uxfl better name just. We workshopped it yesterday. And I'll tell you what, the Ox Football League certainly is something that I would love to get behind. We didn't know a lot about their leak. No. We found out they had bloggers, though.

[D]

Anyway, we did.

[A]

This was one of the greatest tweets ever constructed. Yeah.

[D]

One of the hardest things I've ever laughed at, maybe in the last 10 years.

[A]

James, we'd like to let you know, thank you for your contributions to the thunderdam. We laugh so hard. And as we got to the bottom, we said we didn't even know people cared this much. We appreciated you, James. Yeah. Just wanted to let you know that we appreciate you, James. But yeah, this is basically our show in a nutshell. This is two minute segment. This is a two minute segment and we never claimed to know. We never claimed to know. We actually said in there multiple times, oh, what do we know about it? And then we rattled off all the things that we know. The UXFL is gonna have a much better future.

[D]

Yeah, that's what we.

[A]

Mr. Rapole.

[D]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[A]

Mr. Rapole. Of course. Right from bull.

[B]

Oh, Rapoli.

[A]

Rapoli. He. He and John Gruden said, we at the United Football League know we haven't done enough marketing, branding and the fan experience to truly showcase our talented players, coaches, and high quality football we bring to the field. I guarantee things will change in the future. I'm working on some ideas. I like that Rapole is thinking about it. He's always working on ideas. Hey, where are you? Thinking right here. Repose. Thinking right here. Love that. This is it. Cruden's like, I'll tell you what, man, guys got ideas and protein bars. And when you think about the junkless protein bar, that's good tasting. So if they're eating good protein, I got a good feeling. They got good ideas for the UXFL coming up and we'd like let everybody know. We hope it succeeds.

[B]

Definitely.

[C]

I mean, well, we're pretty accurate with those things we were throwing out. To be fair.

[A]

We would like somebody to counter a lot of them. And they. They will, I'm sure. And I. I want to let them know I will have a counter as well. I will, I will. I will have a few ayyjays going. That's what you actually.

[B]

That's rapul.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

So AJ did mention right before, before he got on his house, lost power like five minutes before. And that's noble. I just heard him. Yeah, we're going to call him back. All right. Our thing crashed right before we went live, too. This might be a repo.

[D]

It could be. Hey, take out the weeds.

[A]

One at a time.

[D]

One at a time.

[A]

Listen, if nobody's talking about us, that's okay. If somebody's talking about us and only saying the bad things, that's not okay. Let's kill their connection, drop their graphics. Jeez. It's not a bad idea. That's. That would be.

[D]

That would be this right here.

[A]

I got ideas. I got ideas. I hope they do. Yeah. We would like more opportunities for guys. I Will say it's tough to watch, though. You guys got to figure that out.

[D]

I got an idea.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

Ask Josh Allen if he wants to play in it after the football season.

[A]

Boom. Well, the thing that really, I think when we quit on him. And I will say this as former player. Always want player empowerment. It always do when you want to hold out. Okay. Quarterbacks. Part of the problem of the league is how bad the quarterbacks are. When the quarterbacks say we're holding that, we're not doing it. And it's like, fuck, we didn't even know you guys had another season coming on. Okay. The first thing we're hearing is that you guys are holding out. From what. What are you holding? Oh, you guys have another season coming up. Okay. The reason why your league stinks is because your quarterback stink. Okay. So now the quarterbacks are saying we won't pay more. And then we do a quick little research. We're like, is this. So if you want more. Normally that would be. You would think that, like, they want more. Piece of the pie. There must be a big piece of the pie. We deserve our. Turns out that pie doesn't.

[D]

No, there's like a couple crumbs on the bottom.

[A]

They haven't even started putting the flour together to make. They haven't even bought the fucking dough to make the pie at all. So for me, that was when I was like, okay, I hate these guys. On that note, I can certainly come back around on the uxfl. Okay. We get some good ball. We get incredible fan bases, which we've seen a couple of them. We've seen the Brahma. Brahma team. Yeah.

[D]

Brahma Bulls.

[C]

DC defenders.

[A]

Great. Their fans are locked in. Yes. The Brahma team's in San Antonio, right? Santo. St. Louis Battle Hawks.

[C]

Great environment.

[A]

Yeah, let's do this. Should put the X back in, but. Yeah, let's.

[D]

Let's go. Now we go.

[A]

And also, is Dwayne Johnson doing anything? We need to lean on him a little bit more.

[C]

I don't think he cares. Just been on. You've got a great movie coming out this weekend.

[A]

I don't. Hell, yeah. I don't think we're talking maybe awards for that. Yeah, they are. He dude in that insane. And then now obviously he's playing a different character. I believe he is losing a bunch of weight.

[D]

He lost like 70 pounds.

[A]

And he said he's losing more, wants to lose even more. But what he was for Mark in that smashing machine, he is gigantic. I remember watching and following along with everybody else. Him going through the process of making that smashing machine. And the amount of, like, I think he, like, dislocated his elbow. Yeah, he gave his entire.

[D]

Yes, he did.

[A]

He committed his entire being to this. And they're saying, great, what, 15 minutes standing ovation.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. And, you know, I mean, I don't know how, what. How much stock people put into, like, the, you know, Rotten Tomatoes and like that. Certified fresh.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Like, it's getting great reviews from critics. And, you know, you want to talk about Oscars, like, Tip. This type of movie, I wouldn't say is. Is typically the one, but, like, what the Rock is doing, like, he. In a couple of those early pictures from the set, like, he's kind of unrecognizable. Like, the amount of prosthetics and like, the work the makeup department did to make him look like this guy, like the. The complete body transformation type thing, because we are. He's obviously huge, but, like, he did. He clearly put on weight and muscle to do this. Like, that's the kind of stuff that makes those Oscar voters be like, okay, well, this guy's very committed and I.

[A]

Know he's taking a lot of. For a lot of his previous movies. Correct. So for him to come back with a certified fresh and also his commitment and 15 minutes standing ovation probably meant more than you could ever imagine to a guy that he's crying conquered everything. Yeah. But deep down, you know, he's the Rock. Okay. Always going to be the Rock. Has to be the Rock. People find inspiration from the Rock in Dwayne Johnson, how strong he is. When everybody on earth is questioning you and saying terrible things about you. And obviously not everybody, but it feels like that in certain times, especially with how popular he's come, political world starts getting after you.

[D]

Right.

[A]

Like, it can get loud. I said for even the strongest of people. So for him to have that moment and have the amount of effort and say, yeah, I can still be the guy had to feel pretty good. Yeah. I can't wait to watch. I'm gonna sport the out of him. On that note, is it you? Xfl Are we putting the X back?

[D]

Oh, they've officially changed it, I believe.

[A]

Well, Rapool.

[D]

Yeah, that's a good idea.

[A]

Locked and loaded. OXFL O F L Banning us. F L Banning us. Bannock. James, your tweet. Unbelievable. Hey, fans. Welcome back to Fansville's cheers and tears. Okay, so, like, everybody deals with losing, right? To a rival and a last second field goal. Whatever. It's fine. I'm Totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice cold Dr. Pepper. Mmm. Those 23 flavors are like so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of your college football team taking a big fat L. College football. It's a pepper thing.

[C]

You ever show up late to the.

[A]

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Looking out, that's having your back.

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[A]

Football. It is magical. AJ Hawk will not be able to join us. He has lost all power at his house. Yeah. It is a second time in a matter of hours that he's lost power over there. We hope he's okay. Okay. We hope the surrounding areas are okay as well as. We'll miss you for the rest of this, AJ Especially with that fresh new haircut.

[D]

Yeah, great.

[A]

Got that low. Fade the talk Staples here at Boston. Connor, congrats to your Red Sox. Thank you. And at Ty Schmidt, sorry about your Yankees.

[D]

It's not serious.

[A]

Isn't over yet. It feels like it, doesn't it?

[D]

No, it doesn't.

[A]

It kind of has felt like it for the last like hour or two, hasn't it? Kind of felt a little bit. A little bit. That's 12 year NFL vet, Super bowl champion, AQ Shipley. Nine year NFL vet, Terry Street Butler. It's not like it for like two hours. Feels like the Yankees are kind of just out of the playoffs.

[C]

That's got to go back and forth. This is an all time, you know, rivalry. It's early, so wild card games. Not like a, you know, late and later in the postseason. But no, it's one game series at this point.

[D]

Exactly.

[B]

I didn't realize. I didn't realize that all three games were in New York. Did you know that?

[A]

Yeah, the home team.

[D]

Mickey Mouse, but yeah.

[A]

What do you mean?

[D]

Mickey Mouse, but not.

[A]

Now you're thinking you're lucky stars.

[D]

It is not necessarily. I just, I don't like that. That's. That's just not the playoffs. What. What are we doing? Like one of these games should. Tonight should be in Boston. They. They take one from you, you should have to go win in Boston.

[A]

So what do they think though? Just the three game series. Padres flying to The Cubs. Cubs having to fly to San Diego then having to fly back to Chicago. Just can't do it in the middle of this three back to back day probably.

[D]

And because yeah the.

[A]

Not just them but in.

[D]

Yeah. And the, you know the teams who get a buy start on Saturday. So you, you can't really. Because then you are kind. It's. It goes back to the college football thing where they maybe are at a little more of a disadvantage because then they're getting what, 10 days off before they play. So you want to move it as quickly as possible to get to the divisional round. I don't know. I just. It's just weird. It's the playoffs. I. That it should be split between. You know, it's a multiple game series game should be played at each stadium.

[A]

Well, the Yankees fans are obviously going to try to make it as hail as possible for the Boston Red Sox. They travel in there tonight, it's 608 and try to sweep the Yankees and eliminate them from the entire postseason, which will certainly draw a very, very relaxed reaction from all Yankees fans. Certainly with how this year has gone and how previous years have gone for the New York Yankees. Let's pivot to the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, every week we get a chance to find out who are the best teams.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Not just by watching every single week, it's hard to project who's the best team, but not just by learning each week, whenever we're talking about all the storylines, but, but having a focus on a particular group on an offense that is basically an indicator on whether or not the team's going to be shit or not. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go into the trenches with aq. Shipley's top five performing offensive lines from week four. Yeah, the aq. This is very important to teams. If you're on here, it means your team's probably going to be good this year. Congratulations. Who's number five performing offensive line from week four? Number five is the Denver Broncos this year.

[B]

And let me start with saying this is. This might be their debut in the history of in the trenches. They have not been on it at all. And the reason being J.K. dobbins, 100 yards rushing this week. First time Denver Broncos rusher in over 30 games.

[A]

Wow, that's a long time.

[B]

So let's take a look at it. Let's watch big Garrett Bowles as he pulls around to the left right here. Let's take a look at him. Let's look at Cortland Sutton on the edge Right here. Peel back.

[A]

Boom.

[B]

Put him down. Look at Cortland Sutton. If we can rewind this. Cortland Sutton, wide receiver on a linebacker, runs his ass off the screen and you'll see him finish on the sideline. Pancake on top of him.

[A]

Sutton had a pancake, then we had a blindside. Peel back, peel back.

[B]

Shoulder back on him.

[C]

Boom.

[B]

Put his ass down.

[A]

Wow. Physical group, boys. Is the guy with the dread still on his team? Oh, yeah.

[B]

Quinn Minders. Yeah, yeah, that's him at right guard.

[A]

Love him, dog. Love everything about him. They wanted to invest in the offensive line last time before Sean Payton took the job. He understood that the offensive line was not great in Denver. And he can't be great if you don't have a great offensive line. You're saying they found it.

[B]

It feels like their two tackles have played phenomenal this year. Lowest pressure rate amongst tackles Garrett bowles and Mike McGlinchey, who they paid a ton of money to bring him over from San Francisco. They're very good up front.

[A]

Congratulations there, Broncos. This is good news for your team. Yeah. You're two and two. Obviously you're not perfect. You're a flawed team, as every team is, except for the Eagles and the Bills at this point. But the Eagles got an issue going on in there. And then the Bills, this might be their year. But if your offensive line is being featured as one of the best offensive lines in all of football, what our research has shown us is that your team's going to be good. Good. Now, on that note, one of the teams that was on this a lot and then ended up being bad is, I believe this number 14. Oh, the Atlanta Falcons. Remember two years ago.

[D]

Yeah, they were on here.

[A]

Yeah, they were on here early. Like, these guys are so good. These guys are geniuses. Look at this scheme. Coach got his ass fired.

[D]

They're doing a fool.

[A]

They were not good. I mean, it was.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So the only outlier here from this entire segment for the last few years of your team being good and the offensive line being featured on here, the only non existent situation, the Atlanta Falcons from a couple years ago. We're not going to hold that against them here from 2025. No.

[B]

Yeah. We're also not going to play analytics and say that their quarterback wasn't Desmond Ritter Eater. Let's. Let's start there. I mean, let's. Let's just start there. But the fact is they are and have been very good up front, and they still are. Bijan is playing out of his mind. Their Offensive line is playing out of their mind. They're missing the right tackle, Caleb McGarry due to injury. Let's watch this scheme. We're going to send Charlie Werner back across the formation. Watch this over the top ball handling. Bend back Werner and look at Elijah Wilkinson seal the edge. Look at this freaking play. This is unbelievable.

[A]

They got that guy free on purpose. You're saying the guy that was tackling.

[B]

Yeah, because Charlie Werner's coming bluffing around him. Get around, don't block him because all we need you to do is get the edge. We are leaving somebody unblocked to get to the edge.

[A]

That's smart. That's having a lot of confidence that who's, who's the running back? Algier Algeria is going to be able to break the tackle in the backfield there and let the guy get through. And I feel like he played that very well. That defensive end.

[C]

Yeah, that's Von Miller, I believe. You know, a little longer than the tooth.

[B]

Good player.

[C]

I mean look, this is why backs get paid the big bucks to make guys miss one on one at open space. But yeah, I'm sure Vaughn wants that playback.

[A]

Well, congratulations to the Atlanta Falcons. Your offensive line is still around. Now to the Atlanta Falcons fans that we've said that to before when you were featured on here and your team inevitably was absolutely shite, we'd like to say this time it's different.

[B]

They're trending up.

[A]

Pennix is a guy.

[B]

Penix is a guy from week to week. We got to really base that on who he's playing and how he shows up. Because against Carolina didn't show up worst. But worst game. But the two games they've won. He's looked fantastic. He threw some deep balls in this game. Yeah, he was awesome.

[A]

Okay, let's go to the next. Who's the number three offensive line out of week four?

[B]

The Jacksonville Jaguars. Wow, three in one, boys.

[A]

I don't know if I like that.

[B]

Keep your name hey out his mouth.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

Yeah, you're right, you're right. You better watch out when you're speaking that certain way to Liam Cohen. But let's take a look at this group. They're really good. They're not.

[A]

Just watch this guy's deal. Roger, you better. Yeah, you're right.

[C]

You better.

[A]

Can we put that tail of tape up? I don't like that we were a part of the problem. Did we fix it first before we put the tail question? We better have it. That's what we did it. He's Six two. What the hell? He is six foot two. I'm sick of it. And remember, Liam's scrappy. Always has been. Always. Not that Coach Sala isn't Berlin. Liam's not going to go down without a dog fight for sure. That's Liam Cohen football. And I like that. There was a little bit of a dust up out there between Liam Cohen and Robert Sala, but I think Liam Cohen does have the mentality of a dog, and I think his players have the same exact mentality. They got a team brewing down there in Duvall, and I personally, as Indianapolis Colts fan, don't love it. He is six two. That's him from college. Well, you say, come on. It's. That's actually him.

[C]

Quarterback number 12.

[A]

He went to Lasalle Academy. You know that course. And then guess where he went to college. Where did he go to college? UMass Amherst, baby. Go, go, Minute man. Yeah. And he's from Rhode Island. There. A small little tie. Think about how many people have said, you're never going to make it out here. Yeah, you're never going to make it out here. And Liam said, wait till I'm six two. What's that? Yeah, Victor Cruz was there.

[C]

That was his quarterback.

[A]

Oh, my God. They were saucing. They were doing the entire thing.

[D]

That all makes sense.

[A]

We remember this all. What we'd like to let Liam know is we appreciate the way you handled that situation. And I don't think any of us knew Salah was 6 4. If you knew that in that moment. It takes a lot of gut sack, dude, just to be like, actually, yeah, I'm gonna. I am gonna fight that guy. Yeah.

[D]

Casala was ready for war instantly.

[A]

Kyle Shanahan said, he's a nice guy, but every once in a while I guess you gotta go, yeah, I don't think Salah is a guy I'm picking, you know? No. Liam Cohen said, though I go, it's. It's fucking my name, I'm out of Rhode Island.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

You think this guy's just gonna run his mouth? His team has seemingly taken his identity, though. Dogs everywhere across Jacksonville. You like their offensive line? I don't love that. As an Indianapolis Colts fan and season.

[B]

Ticket holder, I love their offensive line. We'll start with my guy Hainsy from the shipyard, who I train all offseason.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Let the clip run. Let the clip run as he gets to the future hall of Fame linebacker Fred Warner. Chase his ass down, put him on the ground. Cut back behind. That's big time out Leveraged out in space getting to him.

[A]

That's big time winning record down there in Jacksonville. Is it because the offensive line. Is that what you're saying here? The ETN's been dancing. I haven't seen him run a lot.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's everybody. ETN's towards the top of the league in rushing performances every single week. And it starts with their offensive line, but it starts with Liam Cohen. Understanding the run game is just as important as the balls down the field.

[A]

What are you. Oh, shitting bub. Oh, yo.

[C]

God.

[A]

Oh, my Dang. That looked like a double. Double punch to the jaw. They're playing very physical, Brave. Look at 55.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Got a little knee. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know how these big guys run down the field, have so many awkward shots and not hurt themselves. How quickly guys are able to get up. We said that about Kaden Proctor. Kaden Proctor, with how large he is. What. What.

[D]

What was it, 377, 365? He's huge.

[A]

Something like that. Do you see how smoothly he got up?

[B]

Yeah, he's unbelievable.

[A]

Just like smooth, like. It wasn't like it was. It was no pain. There's no. No struggle with how big he is. Just smoothly got up, smoothly caught it. It's like, these guys are incredible athletes. Incredible.

[B]

I'm glad I got out at the time that I did because they just keep getting bigger, stronger, faster.

[A]

Whip your hall of Famer. That's right. Western Pennsylvania Scholastic Athletic League Basketball hall of Famer, AQ Shipley. He should have maybe been out there at tackle. They always had him at center and guard. And then on the wedge of kickoff. Might have. Should have been out there dancing with the. With those quick feet out there. Left tackle.

[B]

I also want no part of that. I want no part of being.

[A]

Because there's a little baby arms.

[B]

No, because Daniel Hunter's sitting across from me.

[A]

I don't want that.

[B]

And I'm telling you, the worst anxiety I ever had my entire life was whenever I was playing at guard. And they just put Julius Peppers, James Harrison, Chandler Jones over, over me every single week.

[A]

There's a little bit of experience of attacking tackle.

[B]

I felt it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I felt it. I held my own and I fought.

[A]

Yeah, you did.

[B]

I fought.

[A]

You fought. 12 years of fight. Yeah. Who's the number two offensive line performing of week four?

[B]

Yeah. Let's go back to the Buffalo Bills.

[A]

Love that.

[B]

Playing at a high level. And let's start with David Edwards on this play. Let's look at the Left guard here. Let's watch him lift another human off the ground and throw him. He almost hurts Dion Dawkins.

[A]

Look at this.

[B]

This just throws him. Just throws him. And let's look at the backside right tackle. Filling in for Spencer Brown, Ryan Demarck. Let's watch him. Great pad level.

[D]

Get underneath him.

[B]

Drive your feet. Bury him. Finish over the top of him.

[A]

So the Bills are. It feels like everybody we're watching kind of a nasty. Is the nastiness coming back to offensive lineman?

[B]

It better be because I. I've had enough of the finesse. I've had enough.

[A]

There's been a lot of that though.

[B]

Hasn'T there has been a lot of finesse. But I think now you're starting to see the jump jumbo packages, the big formations and guys running off the ball trying to finish guys again.

[A]

Yeah. And you're spotlighting it too on X. Guys know that if you get a couple good blind sides in, AQ will put it over. JJ Wong will be pissed off about it.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Number one number you did win on that. Number one performing offensive line, the Detroit Lions. Wow. They're back.

[D]

All the way back.

[A]

They're back. The nature lines are all the way back.

[B]

They look so good. And when you watch Penne Soul, not on this play, but all game long just beating the hell out of people. But let's watch this scheme right here. Really good. Right side's going to kick out left side. We're going to call this a slice technique. Left guard's going to block out on the three Tech. We're going to slice. Taylor Decker behind. Get up on a line. Look at that hole. Can you guys run through that hole?

[A]

They're back. Yes. That's a big gaping hole. We saw a lot of that from Detroit every years past, but we know with the retirement of and the cutting of Zeitler and also and the loss of Ben Johnson, who we now know is like a drill instructor. We didn't know if the offensive line was ever going to be what it was in the past. Feels like you're saying don't worry about it. They are back to who they have always been. Yeah.

[B]

We highlighted last week how good Cleveland's defense is this week. This unit held them to zero sacks and ran for over 100 yards. Gibbs had an electric day. Montgomery got shut out a little bit. They knew he was getting the ball when he was in. But up front they beat the shit out of this unit.

[A]

D. But think about MCDC talking about the Cleveland Browns defense. They're calling it historic. Man, they're saying he can't out tough this team. Man, they're saying think about all that he could have drawn from for this particular performance. He said the Browns had zero sacks.

[B]

Zero sacks.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean coming in abnormal, beating up because it's two back to back AFC north teams who's known to be tough. Ravens. And then now the Cleveland Browns and on Gibbs touchdown run. Like the way they just move. I think Mason Graham was in like the whole right side of the office of line. It was just bully ball. You love that. That's. That should always be the basis of this Detroit Lions offense. And they're back to who they were.

[A]

I love that the Lions are tough again. That's mcdc. Congrats to the top five in the trenches. Congrats. Top five performing offensive lines out of week four, number one Detroit Lions. We saw maybe a friend choice there. Is that what you guys heard in the middle of that? Yeah. This guy sleeps in my house, in the office. See, this first step he has is called the AQ shuffle.

[D]

If you see we coach him up.

[A]

On that, you put your arms in real close because you don't have long arms, don't need them. It's actually kind of a benefit whenever you're trying to get through some space and then you get out there and then he dumps the guy.

[B]

Hey, you guys know who has the fourth lowest pressure rate among all offensive line in the NFL right now? Robert Hainsey.

[A]

Let's go. Who's giving those grades?

[D]

Shipyard, llc.

[B]

It's not me.

[C]

It's the only grades I want to look at.

[A]

Is it pff. Grades?

[B]

I think it's ESPN's pressure rates.

[A]

Well, which one matters more? Because I heard a legend, a hall of famer, speaking about grades, here's coach Steve Spagnolo. What grades are you using? That's what everybody uses. The only thing you know, you know Chris Collinsworth. I, I think he's a good dude. Good day. He's involved in that company. I, I just, I don't know how you grade put a grade on somebody when you don't know actually what their assignment was or what they were being told. So I don't know. It's like from our standpoint, I thought Chris in this particular game had a real big effect on the game. They obviously found ways to double them. Whether it was two linemen, the full. Excuse me. The running back at times was chipping inside, which you don't see a lot. That was the Chris Jeff Jones effect. A Number of times that he didn't get there, but I think he forced a quick throw or a step up. So, you know, from my standpoint, I don't remember what Chris actual grade was, but I know that at the end of the game, I thought the guys up front, Chris included, had a big effect on the way things went. You mentioned PFF and they don't know the place.

[B]

If I'm not mistaken, it was Mike.

[A]

Zimmer a couple years ago when he coached the Vikings made that same point.

[B]

How would stock do coaches when they're.

[C]

Looking at PFF putting stock in there?

[A]

Well, I will say this. There's a lot of stuff PFF puts out that's valuable and useful. My only thing, I think a lot of coaches feel the same way. Chris and I have talked about it, we've laughed about it. And I think their guys do a really good job and they see, listen, they can be. But I just think there's a margin of error when you don't know exactly what the player was told. It may look like he's made a mistake or a mental error and gets. But it might have been exactly what they told him. So I think that there's a. I don't know. I used to. I took a stat class a long time ago and there's a name for that. You know, whatever. There's a margin of error. That's the only thing I can think of right now. But listen, we. I mean, we get paid to grade our guys and coach our guys and evaluate them. So we're not using that for that. And. And we're going to. As far as other players and whether we use the grades on other players, that has to come from our eye. And watching the tape, we can't be just believing what PFF saying for guys come on our actual team. If you guys are drafting a fantasy football team, for sure. And he also said in there complimentary. There's things in there that are good, there's valuable things that are coming from pff. But man, I'm the defensive coordinator and I've seen the grade that somebody's given and I've told the guy specifically not to do that. And he takes a hit on his BFF grade. And now publicly people think this guy is an absolute doofus because PFF has become like a MAD rating. And PFF has become like, this is what these people actually are. I have been pissed off about a MAD rating in the past. They had me had like a 70 something. My arm rating was like very low. My Strength, my tackling. I'm like, you motherfuckers don't know ball. I got people playing this game that I'm friends with. They're calling me a bitch. I'm gonna take them out. I would throw ball better than my tackle. I got tackles, I got throw like what do we. You don't know what this actually is. And then obviously as you get older your, your rating goes up and everything. But there's people that judge players entirely off of the rating they see on Sunday Night Football whenever they're introduced. This person is ranked 68th out of 72 options right here with PFF or the Madden rating is out. Man, this guy fucking stinks. Every time he's on my team there's something bad happens or if somebody's really good. On Madden Sky All Pro. Yes on Madden is an all Pro. It's like there's certainly the human element that kind of gets missed in it all. But there has to be some sort of grading that we know who that baseline somewhere, you know, so it's like PFF serves I think a vital part of the entire thing of the fan base. And same with Madden ratings. But we can't be at the point where we just blindly follow them. Which is what Spags I think was saying teams can't do it.

[C]

It plays a great role. I love what PFF does and it's a tool that you can use, you know, with especially if you're in the building or whatever when you're watching film and you're seeing what you see with your eyes and if a guy's ranked, you know, 68 out of 72, he's probably not like a top 10 guy, right? You know, it's not to say that he's one of the worst guys in the league. So it's definitely a tool to use especially when you're preparing for a team, you know, on a week to week basis. If I'm a DB and if PFF is telling me, hey, one of the things I love about it is like the quarterback heat map, like where quarterbacks like to go with the ball. We see it a lot with the next gen stats after the game, you know, they're kind of hit chart so definitely tools to use. But I love what Spag said. Like you can't know we say it up here we're doing in the trenches or everything to be. We're only going off our personal experience but we don't know what adjustments are being made between series. Hey, we're going to play cover four this way if AJ Brown is in the slot as opposed to if it's devontae Smith. So it's just so many different things. These guys are in the building for hours on hours coming up with game plans, coaches and players. So it's tough but I do like what PFF does. But yeah, Sunday night football getting intro and then that's it. I've been on free agent visits and you know PF that that agents to tell you hey well your grade is this or they got you here and a lot of those people who don't know ball like that but can be in a decision making position where this ownership level or front office that's the easiest thing to look at. Pff they watch every play Collinsworth he's calling, he knows he's talking about so yeah it's give and take there.

[A]

Well and also people that are in decision making roles. Kids play Madden. Yeah, for sure And I love this guy Madden. He's so good. He's so cool. Mad dummy. Yeah this dude's going mad dummy on Madden and for us potentially in the stadium if you give him an opportunity. Yeah it's crazy how the world works but the football people, I think they appreciate what they the PFF thing does because it provides a lot of information that maybe in the past you had to take hours and hours and hours and hours to find but you can't just blindly follow JJ Watts Tweet was players and coaches all say the same thing yet we still plaster these grades and rankings on national broadcast and all over social media. BFF has some very useful tools for statistical breakdowns, film study assistance, etc. The player grading system is the major issue and I think the reason why players all feel this way is because we feel like we've all been misrepresented by these grades and people that we have run into in our real lives have thought that that was the right thing strictly because of it. So you're going to get a different opinion from players than you're going to give with everything else.

[C]

On the flip side just like with everything else when somebody shows me hey, I had a 92 rating on PFF this week.

[A]

Love it. Hell yeah.

[C]

Retweet.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[C]

Appreciate your pff. So yeah, you take the good with the bat.

[A]

I was the PFF all decade punter.

[D]

You were.

[C]

Congratulations.

[B]

Still have that sweatshirt.

[A]

Love it. Love. Honored to do it. Well, honored to do it. I was Madden's highest rated punter and also highest rated player on the Colts I believe for like my final two seasons, 94, 93. I'll tell you what, life was a lot better whenever those ratings were happening. My friends that are playing football or drafting a team or playing Madden or whatever it is, all of a sudden it's like, man, I'm fucking happier on the team. Instead of that lump that you were. Can run some fakes now. You can run a little bit. It's like, yeah, yeah, this is good. Thank you, Madden, for doing that. But that's crazy, the amount of power. Oh yeah, that, that has. Why don't you guys come up with a rating system?

[B]

Yeah, come on, boys.

[A]

Guys do that. Why don't you watch every play?

[B]

I mean, I will say to Echo what JJ said, it is phenomenal. The, the stuff you can pull. Like, you can literally filter things for film study and you can go on there and say, give me all two by two trick plays out of the AFC north and it'll pull every play within seconds. Within seconds. Yeah, give me every, every blitz play and it'll literally anytime there's five guys or more rushing, boom, it pulls it right there for the whole season. Like, you can get a bunch of stuff.

[A]

There's just some context missing potentially. Whenever you're putting numbers on people, whenever you're assigning numbers to what people's worth are to society.

[D]

Like, like you said, Sunday Night Football, I think is the biggest issue because we see how big those are and like a lot of just like casual football fans are watching those and you're never going to double check. It's like you see the player introduction and you see a guy 68th out of 72nd. It's like, my starting left tackle sucks. What's this about? And then it just like. And then there's not.

[A]

Make one mistake.

[D]

Yeah. And there's not one person saying that. There's, you know, a million people saying that or a hundred thousand people saying that. And like you said, if you're going into a, you're a free agent, you're going somewhere. It's like, well, according to pff, you're one of the worst players in the league position. So I sort of doing.

[A]

Listen to this offensive lineman. Not a lot of people know, right? I mentioned your name to my wife and my wife said he was the guy on Sunday Night football that was 72 out of 70. Yeah, that's, that's.

[D]

Yeah, that guy sucks.

[A]

I asked my kid. Listen, my, my kid plays mad and does the whole thing. He mentioned your rating on there, but he said you get 58 on. I'm trying, man. I like you. I like. I like it. But everybody around me says, this guy sucks, dude. It's a wild time to be alive. We have so many analytics, we have so much data, we have so many stats. It feels like we're getting better with them because there was a point there where every coach was getting all these data and analytics before there was a data and analytics team basically in every single building. They're like, we got all these stats. What the fuck are we doing? What does that mean, though? Now there's been an entire system created for these stats. The go no go thing is now on the screen for everybody scoring. I mean, it's. We're at a wild time. We all know a lot. We all know a lot. Maybe too much. And is there context needed for a lot of these things? Probably always. That is life. How about some context on a weekend that it's about to be for ball? Thursday night, huge NFC west game. Rams, Niners. Who's playing quarterback for the Niners? It's a short week. We shall see. We assume it'll be Brock Purdy out there yet again. And then Matt's Matthew Stafford, fresh out of an incredible conversation with us, which we appreciate him stopping by yesterday. And also whoever drew the photo in the background of me with my long hair, I appreciate you doing that. That's a huge game. Maybe the game's best wide receiver playing over there. In whose house?

[C]

Rams.

[A]

Let's go over to hammer.toddap Tone, what a start to the next weekend. A ball. We got Rams and Niners on Thursday. Let's go. We've been looking at forward to this weekend.

[D]

Yeah, it is a great start to the weekend.

[A]

Niners at Rams, a NFC west division matchup. And we talked about it this week. It might be one of the best divisions in football. So an absolute huge matchup to start this week. Star power everywhere. Okay, and then I've heard a lot of stuff, Pat. I've heard.

[B]

I've heard a lot of people saying.

[D]

That this is a shite slate of football this weekend.

[A]

Coming off of what we had last weekend with the four top 25 matchups in college football, you know, five other top 25 teams on the road in tough environments. Last weekend was an unbelievable weekend of football. You know, you had the 9:30am game and then just led through it in an incredible day of football that ended in a 40, 40 tie. Oh, last week was unbelievable. So people, you know, coming off that.

[B]

Weekend, they were saying, like, maybe this.

[A]

Weekend isn't as good of a Slate. You know, when you look at the NFL slate, there's a, you know, there's a row of games, you know, say.

[B]

You say you don't like backup quarterbacks.

[A]

Going up against each other. So you're not going to love, you know, Vikings and Browns. And then, you know, Houston has been shite and Baltimore's missing their quarterback.

[B]

And you know, the Raiders aren't great and they're huge dogs to the Colts.

[A]

Giants and Saints is a huge game and I like that.

[B]

Dolphins and Panthers is a great matchup.

[A]

And Titans and Cards is a really good matchup. So people are saying it's, it's a shite slate. And then when you look at the college games, there's only two top 25 games going against each other. One of them was a 10 point spread and then the other one is four and a half canes at Florida.

[F]

State who just, you know, lost against Virginia.

[A]

So there's a lot of complaining.

[D]

But I, I want to be paused.

[A]

Positive, Pat, because I'm positive. And we went through so many months of absolute shit. There you go. That's right. Thank you. I cannot be complaining about these weeks yet. Okay, let me. This, this basically same thing happened last year in college football this week because there was all these great games and then everyone was like, oh, this is going to be a shit week.

[B]

Let me tell you what happened last.

[A]

Year in college football. This week three unraked teams beat top 10 teams. Four ranked teams in total lost to unranked teams. So it's, it's these weeks like this.

[B]

Where you have no idea where you.

[A]

Think it's going to be, you know, a shit week where just absolute chaos happens. Last year, obviously, Vandy beat Bama, Arkansas beat Tennessee, USC lost to Minnesota. That Miami Cow game was this week.

[B]

Last year there was a lot of good football.

[A]

And then there are some good NFL games this weekend. You know, Denver going to Philly. That's fun.

[B]

That's a great game.

[A]

I mean, people thought, you know, people were very high in the Broncos, they just got a huge win. Phillies 4, 0. That's a very fun one. Bucks at Seahawks. That's a great measuring tape game. Bucs, you know, four, they've played four games.

[B]

Three and one.

[A]

Three of those, they had to come back on the last play of the games. Well, we all know Seahawks are a great football team. And then right after that, Commanders at Chargers.

[D]

Yes, Chargers just lost.

[A]

The Giants Commanders just went down. The Falcons and lost.

[B]

But the Commanders are getting their quarterback back. And that was just a hiccup last.

[A]

Week for the Chargers. They lost to Jackson Darton.

[D]

Moxie.

[B]

So you know what?

[D]

There is a lot of good football.

[A]

This week, even though people are saying it's not great. Monday, Sunday night could be a banger. Patriots are looking hot.

[B]

Monday night could be a banger.

[A]

Okay, so it's way too early in the season for people to be calling weeks. Shit weeks. Jacksonville's getting Monday Night Football. Football game.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow. Congrats to them. Congrats to them.

[B]

This really might go on.

[A]

That is because they thought about it in for. In January. It was.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, January.

[D]

No, it was January. Yeah.

[A]

Oh, okay. And it's happening here in September and.

[D]

Now it's going to last.

[A]

No, no, no. It's October 1st now.

[D]

Oh, wow. It's going to go on again in October and then going to last forever.

[A]

One more time from the top. We had a month change.

[D]

Let me run this back real quick. Listen, this is what we envisioned in January. It's. It happened in September. It's going to happen in October. Is going to last forever.

[C]

Here we go.

[A]

The Jags are a team that I think everybody would rally behind if they.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

You know, just like, good for you guys. I think everybody in sports would drop a good for you guys. That owner, obviously, great promo. Yeah. Great mustache.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

He has tried his best with that team. I don't know how. He is the owner of other teams that he owns with the Jags, though. He has. Oh, you want a city? I'll build you a fucking. I'll bet. Whatever you need. I will try my best. For us to win two polls, who cares? This will do that. We'll fucking new stadium. Okay. You want me to build a new hotel for you? Got it. Whatever the fuck he was. How. How do we do this if they have found it with Stoner and Liam Cohen, that'd be crazy. They win a Monday Night Football game against Kansas City Chiefs. That'd be huge deal for them down there, man. That'd be a big deal.

[C]

Got the pieces. Offense, defense and special team. They got the pieces.

[A]

And then Patriots. Bill, same thing on Sunday football. That's a huge potential win for the Patriots. Yeah, potential. I'm saying you're taking on a very good Bills team. But if the Patriots are win that game, all of a sudden, this. Wait a minute. Is our window now with Drake May as opposed to in the future because Josh Allen's window is clearly wide open right now up there in Buffalo. That's the thing. Like, even this year, it's just More.

[D]

So, hey, let's be near Buffalo's level.

[B]

Like, we don't have to go into.

[A]

Buffalo and win on Sunday night, but.

[B]

If we go up on primetime and.

[A]

We lose 30 to 15 or 30 to 13 and it doesn't look good, then. Then the whole entire, you know, kind.

[B]

Of framing of the season changes just because Buffalo will be that much better. But hopefully, you know, you never know. Rivalry jerseys for the Bills, I believe.

[A]

Wow. Don't love that. That's bad news for the pat, Especially if the Bills ones are sweet. Do we remember if they look sweet or not? They're so sick. Yeah. The rivalry ones feel like a good.

[C]

Run job with them.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Like, they had a couple different ones that were.

[B]

Oh, yeah, Cardinals sucked.

[A]

No, no, I'm not talking about. Oh, my bad. Yeah, I like the Cardinals. Yeah. Sandstorm. I loved it. I'm not talking about this era.

[B]

Oh, my bad. Yeah.

[A]

Because there was the color Rush roll.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Some of those jerseys were really bad, but some of them were awesome. There was a couple eras where they were trying to make new shirts, and they all sucked. The logos, the graphics, the font that they were using. Yeah, the new, like, the alternate logo. Yeah, all the. Sucked. Sucked. Yeah. And it was like these rivalry runs I thought was a big deal. Like, these things were nice. You wear them a lot, all the time. And.

[B]

And I. I wear it like the. The other merch that they have. Like, shirts like the sweatshirt, I think I might have worn on here once.

[A]

But, yeah, everything they have on there is top notch.

[D]

And that.

[A]

That is the cool thing about it.

[B]

Too, is it's not just like a color rush.

[D]

Like, they all have actual meaning to the cities.

[B]

Like, obviously, the snow. New England's was, you know, a storm surge, like a.

[C]

Nor.

[B]

East, north.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Nor'.

[A]

Easter. There it is. Arizona sand. Which is cool because it's in Arizona. Okay. And it makes sense. It's a desert.

[D]

I mean, the.

[A]

The Dolphins jerseys damn near had me thinking they might go win the division.

[D]

With how cool those were.

[A]

Monday night, Gumpy put that jersey on and became a new man.

[D]

Yeah, he.

[A]

He legitimately did. And so did the Dolphins. Maybe. Yeah, maybe they wear that thing throughout. Tyree Kill Drew Rosenhaus spoke with Josh Moser. The Moe's Show.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or maybe is it Moe's nose?

[C]

I should know.

[A]

He hosted something for me at the Mos Nose. At the Mos Nose. You okay? Whatever it is. Good name.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

@ t h e M O Z K N O W Z so Ma knows.

[D]

Maz Nas.

[A]

It'd be cool if it was Mo's nose. Yeah, that would be cool if it was at the Moe's nose. What do you think, aq? Just as a guy that's well cultured.

[B]

Yeah. Moe's nose for sure.

[A]

Okay. So gotta be. What about his name is what though? Do you. But your friends.

[C]

Josh Mosner.

[A]

Oh, you said Mosner earlier. Now we don't know.

[C]

Not sure. He's got. He's got great moxie, I'll tell you.

[A]

M O S E R. That's Moser.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. Yeah, so it is. The Mohs knows. Okay. This is from the Mo's knows. He spoke to Drew Rosenhaus about Tyreek Hill's injury and surgery and projected recovery. Shout out to the Mose for joining us. Just such an the Moses on the left. How were you holding up?

[D]

Well, you know, I've been an agent for 37 years, and this is the.

[A]

First time I've rode in an ambulance with one of my clients from a game. Very traumatic experience. I thought I've. I've seen it all. But definitely a very painful moment to be with Tyreek as he's ambulance to the hospital. You know, people forget football is. I mean, it's more than a game. It's. It's a career for people.

[D]

It's their livelihood and it's. It's their life.

[A]

It's their health.

[D]

And to see Tyreek in an ambulance racing to a hospital was really very painful. How are his spirits?

[A]

Amazing. I can't tell you how impressed I am with his mental toughness, with his uplifting attitude. He's keeping a smile on his face, telling myself and his parents who were with me, you know, that he's blessed to, you know, be in the position that he's in. He was watching the game. He was cheering for his teammates.

[D]

He was rooting the team on.

[A]

He's handling a very tough situation.

[D]

The very best that you can. We understand that it's a dislocated need. What other information do you possibly have about what's going on?

[A]

Sure. So as we speak, he's at the hospital now. That's where I'm doing this zoom with from the hospital. He's getting an MRI and a CT scan to determine the exact extent of the damage.

[D]

Are there any torn ligaments?

[E]

Is there torn cartilage?

[A]

Are there any broken bones to check on the blood flow, any, God forbid, nerve damage?

[D]

All this is getting checked out.

[A]

I want to say that the Dolphins team doctor Johnny Ribe is here. Team trainer Kyle Johnston. They've Just been exceptional. The Dolphins are taking good care of Tyreek.

[D]

We don't know the extent of the injury.

[A]

Josh, you know, the team doctors have told me he dislocated his knee, which I think was apparent for everyone who watched the horrific play. But what that means and the extent of the damage and what. What. Whether he'll need surgery, to what extent, all of that we should find out.

[D]

Within the next couple hours. What about you? Are you staying there overnight?

[A]

How's your night looking?

[D]

Yeah, I'll stay here at least until.

[A]

Tariq, in his situation, is situated. He's in good hands. He's got friends and family here now, so he's well taken care of. And appreciate everyone's prayers and good wishes and. And he'll get through this. We have ours as well.

[D]

You're the best in the business.

[A]

True.

[D]

We thank you so much for taking a couple minutes here and giving us an update.

[A]

You bet, Josh. Take care, man. I'll keep you posted. You're the best, too, Mose.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah, I had another one yesterday. Yeah. Follow up. Yeah, he. No nerve damage. Everything put back into place, I believe. And the thought is he's maybe going to be back before next season.

[C]

That, you know, that's coming from Drew, and Drew's going to be positive and very optimistic, and we hope so as well. But he said multiple ligaments were damaged, but one surgery is always a good thing, so that's what.

[A]

And also the nerves not being huge. I think that's the big question mark, because nerves can heal, and then nerves also cannot heal. Like, that's kind of the way it's always talking.

[D]

Talked about.

[C]

Yeah. I had a nerve injury one time and, like, Dr. Was like, it could be. You could be good in a week or you can never be back.

[A]

Right.

[C]

So. Oh, okay.

[A]

That was the big thing with Peyton whenever he was coming out of the neck surgery is the nerves. I don't remember what it was. He either couldn't feel his fingers or feel his hands. That's why he started wearing the glove or whatever, because he was coming out of it. But whenever he was with the Colts because Colts had to figure out whether or not they were going to cut him or, you know, what they were going to do with Andrew Luck kind of waiting in the wings and also a massive bonus and also lockout happening. So there was a lot of things kind of you. It was a business was happening. So it was a lot of business stuff was happening at one time. But the nerve conversation was always like, are the nerves going to heal. Like, is the nerve going to heal? They're like every doctor's like, maybe, probably. Is there a chance the nerve doesn't heal? Maybe. We hope not. It's like nobody's figured out the nerves yet. Yet. The nerves seemingly are the. And whenever you have that much damage, you assume that there's going to be some nerve damage in there as well. That then affects every other part of the recovery. Happy to hear that on Tyree Kill if he's back by next year. That's unbelievable work and I think we'll all be excited to see where it is. Tone, what was another thing that you wanted to make sure we mentioned here? Live from Hammer.

[D]

Yeah, you know, the Yankees and Red.

[A]

Sox game is tonight at 6:00 and.

[B]

I had good news for Ty.

[A]

If it's not going well, you know, around 8pm on ABC, the season two premiere of Shifting Gear starring Tim Allen is on. And hold on.

[B]

Huge surprise, huge awesomeness.

[A]

Al Borland's gonna be on the show tonight.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What?

[D]

Heidi as well, I believe.

[A]

What?

[D]

And Jill and the kids.

[A]

Is it Tool Time?

[D]

It's. It's basically Tool Time. It is. I already got a dvr. I'm not so sure that I'm not gonna pause the Yankees game and pick that up later. And obviously, what about Wilson?

[B]

Are we rest in peace?

[A]

Are you rest in peace, Mr. Wilson?

[D]

And Zachary Ty Bryant obviously won't be able to come back because he's been arrested like 20 times. What about JTT, I believe JTT, I think is trying to keep the Tool.

[A]

Man of the past. Yeah. Right. But he wouldn't come to shift gears. Maybe. Maybe he wants to shift gears.

[D]

I'm thinking that there's a chance that they're being real hush hush about this. And then like last scene of the.

[A]

Episode, everybody actually AJ just texted me. ZTBA was actually chewing on the wires at his house.

[D]

That's why the power went out.

[A]

All right, shifting gears tonight, 8pm where, where we want is that hiding? ABC watching his abc ABC Home Improvement. Large portion of me and my family's life.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

I mean, this was appointment television for the McAfee household. I mean, some of my, some of my best memories is child Home Improvement. Yeah. Then obviously you watched him go and just crush it. Not only in Toy Story and everything like that, but to visit Michigan commercials.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Just absolutely slaughtering pure Michigan. Oh, there it is. The pure Michigan commercials where you're going up the lake with some cliffs.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Some trees. Is he still doing those? They kicked him off it. There's some other stuff that happened. He had some opinions. People weren't happy. His entire story though is one. That's when that state started going downhill. Inspiration when they got ripped him out. I mean, you go after Tim the Tool Man Taylor, there's gonna be a lot of people going. You know, that is. What a show, dude. What a show. That's happening tonight. Are they just running it back? What if he. What if he's straight into it? What if they do straight into Tool Time?

[D]

If they're smart, they will. They should. They He. And if I know Tim Dick and I do. He. That's. That's his real name.

[A]

He.

[D]

He probably just wrote an episode of Tool Time tonight. Yeah, exactly like I. I get. We got Shifting Gears. It's this new show on ABC.

[A]

Everybody loves, by the way.

[D]

I don't know. I've never watched it, but you telling me Al Borland and Heidi and Jill are showing up Up. Yeah. Consider me in.

[A]

We need a Tool Time.

[D]

We do in the now more than ever.

[A]

Especially shifting gears. Just make it with cars instead of wood. I mean, he always had the hot rod diner in a garage.

[D]

Exactly. He's always working.

[A]

Always working on. Felt like he was trying to get away a lot.

[D]

It did. I wonder how many beers he was.

[A]

Drinking in the garage.

[D]

Jill driving him crazy after a long day.

[A]

Yeah. I need to make a heart roll.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It feels like you're never gonna finish this thing. That's the goal.

[D]

Yeah, exactly. Mark shows up. He comes home, he's goth all of a sudden. I'm gonna go work on the hot rod drink. 18 Miller Lights right now.

[A]

Now that we all kind of understand the game a little bit.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

It's crazy. My dad loved that show so much. This guy. All right, so what time? Eight o' clock on abc. Toad. Yep.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Shifting Gears. Hell yeah. That. Let's shift gears. Back to sports.

[D]

More people might watch this in the Super Bowl.

[A]

This should maybe be the halftime show. This should have been the halftime.

[D]

Yeah, you're right.

[A]

Hold on. I've come around to it. Babani is a techno show for us English speaking people. That's all it's got to be. Just sounds. You like a lot of different music.

[B]

I love Bad Bunny.

[A]

You like Bad Bunny?

[B]

Yeah, I vacation in Mexico a lot and I've become one with Bad Bunny.

[A]

Yeah, it just vibes.

[B]

That's not where he's from.

[A]

Aq.

[B]

That's the music. That's the music that they listen to. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

What what are you talking about? Spanish speaking music. You're a real piece of dude.

[B]

He's number one on the Mexico charts on Spotify every time.

[A]

Yeah. How often are you checking the Mexico? Every time he goes, he says, I want to be one with the look.

[B]

Ever hear the beats of that type of music?

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, true.

[B]

I go on there all the time.

[A]

Yeah. You're Saul saying a little bit. Yeah. What's. Give me a Bad Bunny song that you like. What's. What's your. What's the one that you're like. You know what? I can't wait for him to play this at super bowl halftime show.

[B]

Well, see, I don't know any of the words and I don't know the names of them because that's just the sound.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, the first song off his second to most recent album sounds like very Eminem style.

[A]

Okay, let me. Let's. What's the sound?

[B]

Oh, you know. You know how Eminem sounds.

[A]

No, there's a lot of different Eminem sounds.

[B]

Mom. Spaghetti.

[A]

So Bad Bunny. You speak in English.

[B]

No, that's what I'm saying.

[A]

I don't know the words, but the sound. The sound. For instance, our favorite is.

[B]

I don't know that song. I don't know what that is based on.

[A]

You tell us your song.

[B]

I would know it if I heard it based on that. Don't have any clue.

[A]

We.

[D]

That's exactly what it sounds like.

[A]

We'll do it one more time.

[B]

Okay, let's hear it.

[A]

It's a banger. So good. It was his WWE entrance. It was sick. It was.

[B]

Honestly, I've seen that entrance.

[A]

Yes, it was. If they have any part of that, which they won't, because there's gonna be a bunch of corporate people at the super bowl that are paying a bunch of money who. I think even if it was songs that we all knew so for sing along songs would not know the single. This song sounds good. What's they call this? Piano Man. Whoa. That's crazy. Some of these people, you know, that are going to be at this thing with the money. So I think you're never going to get that moment. But I do wish there was Sing along moments in there. Like that is something especially because like World cup or whenever these European games happen or the game down in Brazil, like whenever they showcase a local, like, and I'm not saying Bab Bunny isn't a local, but it's like they're celebrating their culture. It's like we're not gonna be able to speak. I Need to be able to speak. What's happening at super bowl halftime?

[C]

She's got a vibe.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a techno song.

[C]

You just gotta vibe because it. They're not. It's not. We're not the target.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's because they will crush the. All the viewership records. Mexico, South America, everywhere else.

[A]

Like this guy, you know, international icon, real motion.

[C]

Motion.

[A]

Yeah. Everywhere. Yeah. He sells out islands and everything like that. And I think it was. Somebody mentioned it about us not being the target. They. They know we're gonna watch.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like it's. The halftime show is not for us to enjoy. No halftime show is for people that maybe aren't gonna watch to maybe. Oh, what's the interest over there? We'll go snoop around. Is going to be performing at halftime. Obviously. We'll go poke around. Maybe some magical happen. Maybe people that have zero. Yeah.

[C]

Maybe flag football.

[A]

Boom. Come on in.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

San Benito's coming in there now. With that being said, they know we're gonna watch. They could give us something. Yeah. You know, there's obviously a counter at all times, but from a business perspective, I guess Bob Bonnie makes a lot of sense because a lot of people that don't know ball or watch ball will watch for Bad Bunny. Yeah. So that's their story.

[B]

And can't hammer home enough like how.

[A]

Much of a showman this guy is. Unbelievable. Even as someone who.

[B]

This isn't, you know, four per se. Just because I don't know a lot.

[A]

Of his music, I am excited to see what he does with the stage.

[B]

With all the, you know, types of. He could do Cirque du Soleil.

[A]

Who knows? Yeah. I. I think he'll be a good show. What are the collabs be. I saw somebody tweet Luke Combs would be good with bad money. No, no, no. Just if he was to do it. We were trying to find it. I mean, maybe though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No about Bunny. But people are like, Luke Combs has a Rolodex of songs that have enough different like obviously Fast Car all the way too Long to everything. Like kind of in between there. He potentially has a library that could entertain the masses of. Because you do have to think about that.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

If it's not Bad Bunny, then who is somebody that's going to be able to entertain everybody because we're mad that Bad Bunny's doing it. Because we don't think we're a part of the group that he's there to. Who would be the person that would.

[B]

Have her Creed, Nickelback.

[A]

Listen, I'm in.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And if you were just to Toss Backstreet Boys, NSync, and maybe just do a full throwback situation, have 50 Cent come out to end the club like he did, just do a full throwback. That's. I think they need to do, like, show.

[B]

Backstreet and Sync would have been sick.

[D]

And they just sell. They just sold out the sphere like.

[A]

A thousand nights in a row. So Justin Timberlake still doing it over there. I saw him dancing on the Internet.

[D]

I think so.

[A]

But, yeah, he had to apologize for his dancing.

[D]

No, now you got DUI and had to, like, cancel a show or something, right? Oh, boohoo.

[A]

Come on. What's that? What was that?

[D]

I don't know.

[B]

I thought. I thought he said something else, and.

[A]

I realized you said du. Yeah, but I can't do that. Yeah, I can't do that. JT can't do that. Jt. The. He was dancing, though, on stage, and he wasn't singing. He, like, put the microphone down. He was dancing. And people were commenting about how much money people were paying to go see him in concert. Like, this is what you're paying for. And it was not. It was not just timber. Like, I remember who used to have those silky knees. I mean, he used to be able to move, but he was also enjoying the moment with his fans that he's had over 20 years.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

Can't be judging him just for one little clip. Out of context. He's still Justin Timberlake. We got to remember that.

[D]

Come on.

[A]

They always make fun of him for the whole. Yep.

[C]

He had a great super bowl performance.

[A]

He did. Yeah. Pretty historic.

[C]

All time.

[A]

People remember it. That's what we're saying. He's got dance moves now. That's a collaboration. Three different parties there came together for one big moment, and I don't know if they'll ever give Justin Timberlake the halftime show again. Or his flyers. Or his flyers for the halftime show.

[B]

Yeah, just, you know, he still got it. It was my favorite halftime.

[A]

All time. We understand why, and we. We hear what you guys are saying, and we respect and appreciate your reasoning. I will say that Prince won. Insane. I mean, you just kind of think back, and I always say, like, two of them. Like, the Tom Petty one was they had the full. I couldn't even imagine. Rest in peace, Tom Petty now with the modern technology that you could have with that entire thing. But I don't know who is the right person. I've tried to figure it out. I don't Know who?

[C]

Everyone won't be happy with anyone.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, no, there is no one person who everybody's gonna say, oh, that's. You know, I mean, when Michael Jackson was here, you talk about Prince like Michael Jackson. I mean, think. I think he'd probably get a 99 on the rotten Tomatoes. But I mean, after that, you know, you're gonna have a bunch of people as well.

[A]

Legit. I don't know if there is a.

[D]

I don't think there is one.

[A]

I don't know who it is. It was Taylor Swift, I don't think.

[D]

But no, you see how many NFL adjacent people are pissed off anytime.

[A]

People would have been mad.

[D]

Yeah, that's right. Like, I don't think there is anyone who people would unanimously be like, you know what? Yeah, that, like that's. That's the move that should be the Super. Super bowl happen.

[A]

What if that is Roger Goodell and Jay Z, Right. A part of the decision maker. Roger, we're never gonna make everybody happy. So it. Who brings the most amount of people. Let them know if they'll do it for free. They will. Okay. Yeah, go. Somebody please go talk to football girl. Taylor Swift. We would love to have her, obviously at Super Bowl. We'd love to showcase her. Taylor Swift goes. Just a couple quick questions. So how's this? You guys give me a car to the stadium or what is the whole. Do I have a green room? Oh, you'll get paid. Nothing. Yeah, yeah, you'll pay for your own shit. Actually, what was old buddy that paid.

[D]

For it with the weekend?

[A]

The weekend. He was paying his own money for the mirrors. Allegedly. Entire thing. Just see what happens to your numbers the next day though. That's all Uncle NFL would do for you. I don't think so. That's gonna be a no for me. Okay. And then Bad Bunny was like, do I have to sing in English? And they're like, nope. He's like, see, I'll do that thing. He's gonna kill it. Yeah, that's a lot of space and opportunity for him. Lady Gaga. What'd she do? She jumped off the top of the stadium. Yes. Right.

[D]

Yeah, I think came in from the.

[A]

Top of the stadium. I think like Bad Bunny's gonna do some.

[C]

Was up there too, right?

[A]

When they lifted her up? Yes.

[C]

Like, I remember like hanging up. Red, are you pregnant?

[A]

Yes. Very pregnant.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. Who was last year's Kendrick Lamar?

[B]

And then it was the week.

[A]

Who was the year before?

[C]

Was it real?

[D]

Oh, it was Usher and we came with Bryn Breeson.

[F]

It was Usher, then Rihanna, then Dr. Dre and Snoop.

[B]

That one was good. Then the weekend.

[A]

But Dre and Snoop was a collaborator.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Which I think they should do more of. Like, I think there should be a collaborative effort. Yes.

[B]

Like a 90s collab.

[A]

Bingo. Yeah. Yeah. Like. Or like country music will do one or like rap will do one or like rock will do one right now. Because there's like this young guy, youngblood, that everybody's like, he's the next one. When it comes to like rock stars, rock icons, it's like so you could still have Steve and they're not actually sing. Like, it's all right. Like, you could just kind of pay tribute to. Into stuff.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Or you could bring Bad Bunny in and bring.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

South America, Central America and just have him go. Absolutely ap. Which he's gonna do. Which we can't wait for. All right, let's wrap this up with one of the best segments that has ever been created. We actually had some history made on this particular last week. Ladies and gentlemen. It's time for everything. Db, good D and bad D, what do we got?

[C]

We don't have a history this week, but we got some good plays. Starting with the Chicago Bears coming off of back to back wins. We kind of spoke about it earlier in the week, about the job that Dennis Allen and specifically Al Harris, one of AJ's old teammates, have been doing with this Bears secondary. Let's watch Kevin Byer here. If you pause this right here, middle of the screen, right before that safety move, it looks like something middle closed, maybe cover one, maybe cover three, and then post snap, you'll see it go to a cover two with Kevin by it pretty much being this run through guy. Now if you pause it, run it back a couple frames. You pause it here, kind of the top of Geno's drop, he is reading that defender, let's say right outside of the hash mark, between the hash mark and like that 30 yard line mark, he's reading that defender. He's high lowing him. He is the defender in conflict in Geno's mind with this dagger concept. So the slot receiver, he's clearing it out and you got a dig route coming in. So once that defender on third and seven bites up at the sticks with the. Which is what a lot of zone defenders do. He thinks, hey, hit this guy two yards outside of hash, gonna be wide open. Nope. Kevin Byers all over it. Comes off the clear route to the dig route. Diving interception. They tried to write Kevin Byard off. Started off A little slow, but he made some big time plays. Two interceptions in this one. Tyreek Stevenson had a great one as well, but great job anticipating the concept. Kind of baiting the quarterback into this throw and then finishing it with a great, great catch across him.

[A]

Thanks for not finishing the right off. I didn't write back thing because that's actually a Gino quote mark and patented and then you were going to use it against him. So thank you for not doing that. But the Chicago Bears defense might be the real deal. I mean there was some spectacular picks that they showed. And Gino Smith, a lot of people were kind of hating on him. It's like great plays out of the defense of the Chicago Bears. They might have figured it out.

[C]

Yeah, this is a great play. If you run it back to that one wide copy. A lot of people will say, you know, Monday morning quarterback, hey, if you hold on this, you let this rip to that seam route right down the middle, it's wide open because that corner to bottom is not getting there. That safety is definitely not getting there. If you just lead him and throw it out there, which he's made some big time plays, I believe that's Tucker. But when they're running this play, they're running this to be a clear out. They're running this to get past the sticks. See dagger concept almost every week on here. And reading that defender that he's reading, he had, he thought he had the right answer. But this is a great job by a veteran safety making a big time play.

[A]

That's some good day. We got some more. Good day or are we showcasing?

[C]

We got some. We got some more. Good deal. We do. We do good. We got some good defense here. And this is a trick play down here. Third and five. Trick play. Let's do a little reverse. Handed off the Chris Olave. Let's see. Hit the quarterback.

[A]

Nope.

[C]

Cole Bishop came across with a nasty one handed snag to finish this playoff. What you got Aq?

[B]

You see the block? You see the block down at the end there after the interception?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Watch this coming in right here.

[A]

Wait for it. Boom.

[C]

That's cheap.

[A]

I'm surprised I didn't call that. Look at the Caucasian flying through the sky, obviously stealing a pick. Normally trick plays work for every team and the NFL. This one, absolutely nonsense.

[C]

If you run it back a little bit at the beginning once Olave is kind of pulling this ball back and obviously he's not a quarterback, but when he's pulling his ball back, pause it, he thinks like right now you see Spencer Rattler wide ass open. If he gives him a better throw, maybe a little bit more heat on it towards that pylon. I think he does catch this and score. But Cole Bishop, when you're in this position as a db, this is when you kind of look back and hope for a bad throw and just make a play. Because if he catches it in stride, he's going to score anyway. That's what Cole Bishop did and then went up and made a phenomenal grab.

[A]

I love lil good D down there. Hell yeah. I mean look at those, look at those fans too. Yeah, they love good D too. Yeah. And after. They love that D. Yeah, they love that Cole Bishop D. And look at.

[C]

The score right here too. This is a 1014 game. So they score a touchdown right here, the Saints will be up 17, 14 against the Buffalo Bills, then the next one, the Jacksonville Jaguars. We've been talking about this, what's this all about.

[A]

They got in the trenches and good deeds.

[C]

That's always good vibes when you can do that. Watch Devin Lloyd here, right in the middle of this defense, probably will be the AFC defensive player of the week with his performance this week. Now this is that middle run through similar to what Kevin Byard was. But Kevin Byard came for more depth. Him just reading this pass concept once again, understanding where that deep dig route is going to come from. Brock Purdy can't make this throw. The throw did get batted at the line of scrimmage, but I think it would have been intercepted. Either way, great job anticipating this, this play and then making the catch so bomb right here. Tip maybe threw it off just a little bit. Once again, I think this is getting intercepted. Either way, a great, great performance from Devin Lloyd. Once again, we'll be talking about complimentary football. This defense, last year they had nine takeaways. The entire year they're already up to 13 takeaways and leading the National Football League in takeaway. So big time turnaround with Anthony Campanelli over there, the defensive coordinator.

[A]

Is it mindset personnel? What is it?

[C]

All of those things, mindset personnel, being comfortable within the scheme and then sometimes the ball just bounces your way. This is, this is a great play. He went out there and made this play. But sometimes just being around the football to end the Houston Texans game, like 30 something seconds left on the clock. C.J. stroud going to make a throw. Josh Hines Allen kind of strip sacks, hits the ball as it's on his way out, kind of becomes an overthrow. Just a little duck in the air, he picks that one off. We had Jordan Lewis last week on everything. DB showing that disguise pre snap, getting back into the flat and then making the big time play. So just executing and a good, you know, good coaches that they got a good coaching staff over there and something. Obviously it was a lot talked about Salah and Liam Cohen, but after the game yesterday actually Robert Salah was asked about the whole dust up. Once again it was something he said that had nothing to do with that. But he was giving compliment to Liam Corner. He said something, let's actually get to the clip and I'll go off and get some bad tea.

[E]

They're really, really good at putting their.

[A]

Players in position to be successful. You know, as coaches, we're always chasing leverage. They're trying to have winning leverage, we're.

[B]

Trying to take leverage away.

[C]

So leverage, and you're very familiar with it within the kicking game lanes, lane integrity, offensive lineman. And it's something like leverage is like a big time word. And the casual fan at home might not understand it as much when you see guys wide ass open or big run play happens, you're like, what? How the hell did that happen? So this is an example of that. One of the best wide receivers in the league. Six touchdowns right now. And you can kind of think, okay, every defense coming into the red zone, if you pause it here, you want to know where 14 is, where St. Brown is in every play. So right now Grant Delpit, he's guarding them. They're getting some information right here. Okay, so he following 14 to the left and to the right, maybe man to man coverage now let it roll here. So now when you get down here and you have a tight formation or a slot defender, you can see the corner at the bottom of the screen on Jaymo, outside leverage, the corner up top, outside leverage, Grant Delpit, outside leverage. But what the Detroit Lions do here is do a good job running a rub route, a natural pick route with Tesla on the outside. So he's just running his vertical route and he's going to set a natural pick which takes away that leverage. And now without a switch, without a combination switch, it's a walk in touchdown for one of the best wide receivers in the National Football League. So when Salah says something like, hey, coaches and players, we're always trying to find a way to get our players in good leverage. That could be a wide receiver, that could be an offensive lineman getting a little chip, a little help. We're always looking for that leverage on any given play. And this is A great example of that and why a lot of big plays happen and why touchdowns happen.

[A]

Thank you. That's cheat cheating. Offense is cheating right there. That's a pick play.

[C]

He did a great job just running his route. If he stopped or he made it clear and you can't set a pick within one yard of the line of scrimmage. This was a little deeper, but he just ran straight up the field. Usually with young wide receivers, they don't do a good job playing this off. He just ran straight up and it's a natural pick and you can get away with that.

[A]

He's finished it too.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Full sell on the other side. I'm running a full route here. That wasn't just to chip this guy right through his outside shoulder and have Amman, Ross St. Brown wide ass open for a touchdown, finishes his route full pace. Yep. These refs going to think, nope, I'm out here. Never going to get that ball ever. Good sell.

[C]

It's great sell.

[A]

That's good sell. That's never even look.

[C]

Never even look back. It's a rookie, so that lets you know it's great. Coach. Shout out Johnny Mo over here.

[A]

Johnny Mo? Yeah, Johnny Mo. What do you know? Mo knows and so does John V. I mean that's certainly something. Do we have any other bad deer? Is that it?

[C]

Yeah, we got a couple more bad days. Once again, we always have a theme and this is leverage. Once again we got a slot fade from Higgins, the slot receiver up top and running back a little bit. You see the communication. He kind of taps his. Looks like maybe his ribs to the outside receiver up top and you're in that slot. This is one of the toughest routes to guard. You want to keep your outside leverage if you're that slot corner. And why? Because you have your only help deep is that post safety. So you want to use that post safety. Once he gets to your outside and takes away that leverage, the quarterback immediately knows where he's going with the ball. You even look at the outside receiver, who I believe is Dalton Schultz. As soon as this ball is thrown based on his release, he knows it's a touchdown. So you'll see the outside receiver, you see him throw his hands up. Touchdown. Great ball thrown. Boom. Once again winning leverage in the slot with the outside. If you watch.

[A]

Tackle him here.

[C]

Yeah, if you. What's that?

[A]

When this guy. Because if he's even. He's right there. You tackle him.

[C]

Yeah, I'm grabbing him. Yeah, I'm grabbing him. It's a great throw. It's a great route. And you. You just make the game tougher on you when you're in that slot. And that was much easier sitting here with a clicker, as Tua said, than actually getting out there and executing. But if you just maintain that leverage or make it it tough, you at least give that safety a chance to help you. But right here, great job. This is a rookie right receiver, too. This is from Iowa State, if I'm not mistaken. So great job.

[A]

Boom.

[C]

Throw it. Get off me. Stack them. Great ball from CJ CJ Stroud. And once again, running away from your help. So good job there.

[A]

Got to have great leverage. You always got to have it. All right, And I think we have one more bad.

[C]

One more. And look, I don't like to put bad team from winning team. I don't like it. Bruce, I'm sorry, but I had to stick with the theme. And this is a big play. And Omarion Hampton, he was kind of the silver lining this loss for the Chargers. We always hear the concept. No edge, no chance on defense. So if you look here at the edge defenders, once again, it's for the casual viewers at home. Every defense has an edge to it and two guys responsible to set an edge on either side of the field. Right here is Brian Burrs and Kayvon Thibodeau. So you'll see the edges set. So watch it to the left where the run will happen with Brian Burns. Boom. Pause it. So he sets the edge, But, I mean, a good edge is you're setting it, but you're also squeezing it so you make those lanes tighter. So he set the edge so he can look back at the coach, say, hey, I set my edge. I sit in the back inside. But you kind of got to squeeze that. So the offensive player here does a good job of creating that space, because the less space you have there, the easier you make it for number 21 to come and fill his gap. If you let it run a few frames here, he's coming down now. He has to set the edge on the next level to send the guys to send the ball back into all those blue shirts coming inside out. But if you watch 53, you take your eyes inside, one more block. He went on the inside of that block. So that means 58 would have to get over to the outside. We saw it earlier with the Pittsburgh Steelers a couple weeks ago. He would have to get to the outside. So if you run it back, actually, you'll see it kind of happens full speed. It's just that one block and these backs are so good that they find that space, they find the lane division, and then you have the explosion to take away angles. We know speed kills, matchups, and that's what Omarion Hampton did right there. So it's always about angles. But something that coach Salah said, former head coach, obviously a very good defense coordinator. League is leverage. We're always fighting for that leverage. And it's some examples of that.

[A]

All you need is one guy to be wrong and then one guy. People can't even fix it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's crazy. That's a sport. Rugby is like that as well, right? Rugby is very spread out, but in NFL, if you just get two guys stacked behind each other and one gap left wide open, and one gap taken by two people, that's touchdown, bro. That is. That is it. All you need is one person to not see the field the same way. That's why any play can change the trajectory of a season. And that's why you always want to be on good D and not bad D with everything. Db. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Great job, right?

[A]

That was fun show. Hey, Q. Thank you for traveling out here, buddy.

[B]

Thanks for having me. Great job, boys.

[A]

So we didn't talk about Penn State. Really? Oh, oh.

[B]

Atmosphere really good.

[A]

Really? Whoa.

[C]

They're dead there. They didn't even say it.

[B]

Did you watch the office?

[C]

No. You didn't say, oh, oh, oh.

[A]

We are pen. Oh, no. Like a little house cat. Like a little cat.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[A]

So soft there. So soft. What's the problem? You're a Penn Stater. Come on. Best atmosphere I've seen and experienced. It was awesome. Got a chance to go see the national champion women's volleyball team. Hang out with them. They need. We need to start stacking wins there as well. Got a chance to see a lot of the facilities that are being built up. Obviously had a chance to hang out at the stadium a couple different times. I mean, everything is awesome. Yeah. And obviously Oregon's going to be around in the long run, I think. One double overtime. Good weekend up there. Good weekend up there.

[B]

They three points going into the fourth.

[A]

Quarter and they still got overtime.

[B]

Yeah. And that's my issue with it, is the fact that we have all these slow, developing runs. We don't push the ball down the field. Everything's short of the sticks. Everything's these short stick routes. Everything's gimmicky. Everything's all what it shouldn't be for the first three quarters. And then we decide to open up the. The playbook, push the ball down the field.

[A]

And you want to run the ball. You want him to throw.

[B]

I want him to run off the ball. I want it to be aggressive. I want it to look like the other stuff. I want it to look like Bama. I want it to look like Jordan. You got the talent.

[C]

Open it up. Let's go.

[A]

Well, what I thought was an okay game, you know, I thought it was okay game on you.

[B]

Did you watch the offense for the first three quarters?

[A]

I was there. Yeah. It was tough. It was really tough. But your defense is awesome.

[B]

Defense, phenomenal. They play it out of their minds. I mean, I love everything they did. And I love the new defensive coordinator mixing up the coverages. I thought he did a great job with that. Mixing up the blitz with the coverage. I thought that was great. They played with chaos and. Relentless. Relentless. But like on offense, everything takes five seconds to get going.

[A]

Can't do it.

[B]

Can't do it. Run off the ball, hand the ball, get downhill.

[A]

111,000 people in there showed up middle.

[B]

Of a renovation, expecting electricity, you know, they got struck by lightning.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[D]

Pretty good.

[C]

I like that.

[A]

Wow. Cute. There was a lightning being struck. Conversation at Portnoy was having over there. Saw people really reacting.

[D]

I didn't love that.

[A]

He obviously didn't mean.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

He didn't want people to get struck by light.

[C]

I think, you know, but if it happens just not your day.

[A]

It is. It is a bad day. That place was awesome.

[B]

It's unbelievable, isn't it? I mean, that experience.

[A]

I told you that it feels like it's on top of you. Like that is the difference is it feels like it's on top of you. And everybody's on the same exact page. Everybody. Dj same page person that's sitting in the bottom row, first row, same page person is sitting at the top tippy top. Same. Everybody's on the same page. So many chants, so many songs, so many everything.

[B]

How about the Mo Bamba?

[A]

Awesome. And the timing of the it perfect as soon as attack was made. So you nailed mo Bamba. How about some bad bunny? You say you love him.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

He doesn't.

[A]

He doesn't. Are you lying? You're trying to be cool right now on the Internet.

[B]

I do give two shit.

[A]

You're not going to be able to.

[B]

Play because it'll get us. Definitely get us cut off.

[A]

Yes, I will.

[C]

How many seconds?

[A]

What can you play it?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The zero with how big bab Bunny is. That bunny's.

[B]

It's immediate.

[A]

That one's probably. Yeah. Trying to get. Yeah, that's probably getting c indeed pretty quick. As soon as. Yeah, lawsuit. And I got. I'm gonna have to use the Google translator. Something was sent to me in Spanish. What's it say? Stop it. We're gonna sue you. Perfect. Messi Boku. Nope. Muchos gracious.

[D]

Yep.

[B]

Both play.

[C]

Has anyone tried the new AirPods?

[A]

Yeah, I don't know. I got the new phone though. The new phone has a bunch of that like it. They've changed things for no reason.

[D]

Classic.

[A]

You know, just no reason. Had it figured out. We can keep it, but some developers said I need to prove I'm worth a. So let's change it a little. Little bit. And inevitably I'll be comfortable with the new ways of the little things. You know, like I am a facetimer. They change the facetime the way it's logged. It went to missed call. Here's a call that you should make. Maybe a suggested call. I just want to see the log. Yeah, just give me the goddamn log. You have a Ms. Facetime from who? You can't. Who knows. And that call could have been from anywhere. The way it's in there. Photos. The camera's incredible. Okay, camera, great news. Camera is good camp.

[B]

The camera button.

[A]

Camera button's incredible. So you take pictures with this now. You know, as opposed to having to reach to the top one like where you could only do pictures on that or have to use screen. Now there's an added button that is for the camera and you can zoom with it and everything. And obviously the camera is impeccable. The AI obviously good. They change the way you search through your phone. I don't like that. So I'm a big search through my phone. Somebody's name want their info just to pop up right there. So I can just hit text and then send. Now it's the most recent interaction with the person pops up. So like if I wanted to text Gumpy, but my last interaction was like let's say a FaceTime. So I search Gumpy instead of his contact info popping up, which is on old phone. So I could just hit fucking message this guy Gumpy. Need to message him. Now it's our most recent interaction, which was a FaceTime.

[C]

Oh, good.

[A]

So now Gumpy FaceTime is on the screen. So then I gotta click in info into that to go into a shot to hit the thing. And I'm like, if I wanted a FaceTime, I hit the FaceTime button. We had that figured out. Why are we changing it now? Granted, somebody's going to tell me, well, what you got to do is you got to hack into your settings, into your software and you can change that back to whatever you want. And it's like, okay, well they just popped this thing on my life. Easy transition to no phone. Easiest there's been.

[C]

That's good news.

[A]

You put the phones next to each other and they start talking to each other.

[D]

It's good that that finally works because they've been peddling that for years now and it never has.

[A]

I think it was 25 minutes. We have thousand up, thousand down here at Thunderdome though, so that probably helps if I guess did it here. Set the phones next to each other and they started kind of talking to each other. Have to answer questions, have to remember a couple passwords. But most of the passwords face recognition carried over.

[C]

That's good.

[A]

Very good. Two step verification process replacer. Sending text messages to your phone. Interesting because my Verizon didn't move over until last so I had the Internet on new phone uploading apps. Verizon 2 step verification still on old phone. So then whenever Verizon moves to new phone, two step verification, where to go. I still don't know where some of them went. I still haven't been able to verify and get into a couple of the apps. But all in all, 25 minutes for me, smooth transition, easiest of all time. Didn't ruin my entire day. We had very high Internet speed and it is very nice. The screen's very nice. The tech. The tech is very nice. They've changed some things like why the we touch anything. But I think there is real advancements. Editing a lot easier I think for us, which is good. They've made some stuff in the background. Yeah. So it's good phone. They don't have black though.

[D]

I was going to say enough with the goofy Mickey Mouse colors. It's like I. What that orange one like, I get it like that is everyone's last pick, no matter what.

[C]

Zany.

[A]

Yeah, it's. There's a too much. There's a blue and orange and a white I think. Right. Is that the, the colors? If I recall, there's no black. Yeah. Not having black is insane to me. It's got to be like the number one most selling, most popular choice of all time. But this is once again, you know.

[D]

Well, Zito did have a good point. He said, well, you know what they're gonna do in, you know, four weeks, there's going to be an exclusive ahead of black ones here and it's going to be twelve hundred dollars more sixteen hundred Night Ops. Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Or something like that. You can trade in your super duper for the superst of duper. Yeah, just another. Yeah, probably. You're saying 1200 probably like 12,000 maybe. Yeah.

[D]

And guess what?

[A]

And I was just sell a bunch of them. I was agreeing to a bunch of things. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Whatever you got to do. Yeah.

[D]

Send it to me. Yep, sure.

[A]

For some of them, they make you scroll down. Go scroll down so that we can at least say that you got to the bottom of this thing. Well, why is it in half inch font? And what the is all this? You. You can read it? Yes, I can. Yeah. Do you guys have an AI that'll read this for me? Well, then you got to agree to this. Actually, it's like, holy. So I'm just agreeing. Get me in there. Even transferred over to home screen. I mean, just everything immediately.

[C]

No case. You're no case guy.

[A]

Roll up. Always. All right.

[B]

Always aggressive, respected.

[A]

I've always been this way. First of all, I respect Steve Jobs and what he wanted to look like. Okay. When you guys put your big blob of on it. Okay. It's not, it's, you know, there's an entire design and everything like that. And I, I respect you guys wanting to protect it, but in my eyes, I think you guys are looser with it because you have the cases on it. Yeah. So for me, I am very careful with this thing. Now. Have I dropped it? Oh, yeah, of course. Have I cracked? Have I cracked screens? Have I had situations that if I had a case on, would not be a problem and instead I had a massive problem.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah, absolutely. In between my legs, getting out of the car. That pop.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Hits that thing. Yeah. I've had those problems. But I feel overall I am much more careful with it because I don't feel the luxury of like, oh, I could throw this thing off a wall if I want. And also, Apple, to their credit, has gotten much better over the years with durability. Remember there was that Lil Wayne commercial where he's throwing it under water and I think it was a Samsung phone. Maybe. I don't remember.

[D]

Yeah, maybe Apple had the same thing. You can drop it in the ocean.

[A]

You'Re going to cr. And I think this thing doesn't really crack until it does. It kind of cracks. Yeah.

[D]

And then it spiders everywhere when it does.

[A]

Yeah, but it's better at not doing that is what they say. Yeah, but still. Yeah. I go. I do. Dude. I am a wide open kids. I know.

[B]

Can't control that.

[A]

When my daughter grabs it. When my daughter grabs it, it's so slippery, you know? And it's like immediately bang, right to the ground. It's like, yeah, Ken's come on certain way. You gotta live. Whenever you don't have a cover is. Please have a little respect.

[D]

We need that phone.

[A]

Yeah. Sam has case. Very nice case. A pink one. It's a very nice case. But, I mean, the corners, that thing just completely.

[D]

Oh, yeah. Ravaged.

[A]

That's how obviously it works.

[B]

That's how mine are. I mean, destroyed.

[A]

See, that surprises me for you. You got like an advancement of technology in our palms. Like, this is absurd. And you Neanderthal just love. Hey, people used to walk miles to get to computers. I know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And now we got the greatest computers of all time in our pocket. And you're like, well, I got a otter case, so. Hey, you want my phone? Somebody is my quay. Go deep. Look at this video. Go in the pool. Go to the cp. It's unbelievable. Maybe take care of your stuff. But, yes, I am an abnormal. Abnormal, I believe. Abnormality. Me not having the case.

[B]

It's aggressive. I really don't. I mean, I would. I would have to replace my phone every two weeks.

[D]

Bingo.

[A]

I don't think so, though. I. I think that's where you remember in Batman when he was down in that pit and he got out of the pit, everybody tied the thing.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

So everybody tied things. They never fully committed. Okay. But they were safe. They. Oh, it'll save them. Until he did what? Took that thing off.

[D]

Had to.

[A]

And say, you gotta go. And that's the only time you're ever gonna. That's what I'm doing with the phone.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

I'm taking that rope off, and you're just living. You're gonna live differently with this without the rope than you would with your otter case that you're spiking like you're Rob Gronkowski off the ground every other.

[B]

Day, but you can't control other people. That's like saying, I'm a great driver. I'm a great driver.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

Somebody else may not be.

[A]

Are you a great driver if you had to really judge yourself? Phenomenal. Okay. All right.

[B]

As good as it comes.

[A]

All right.

[C]

I can see that.

[B]

I mean, the peripherals.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sure.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That's like when people ride motorcycles. I have motorcycles. And they're like, it's not if you crash, it's when you crash.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

And everybody says, well, I'm a good rider. It's like, no, it doesn't matter. You got AJ Hawks out there there driving around, falling asleep while he's behind the wheel. Like, how are you going to judge that? So you got to watch for other people. I think that's how you become a better driver. When you start driving for other people, that's when I think you're a good driver. You're doing that right now? Oh, yeah.

[B]

I'm seeing the move before it happens.

[A]

Oh, you're watching the arm, huh? You're not just watching the car, you're watching the arm.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Seeing the face, seeing the head, head down at the phone and knowing, okay, we got to figure out time to get around this thing. But we got to understand this thing is in its own world right now. So we just got to let they live. I'm not going to snitch on, but they need to stop texting while driving. Some of these people should not be doing it.

[D]

Without a doubt.

[A]

Sorry, everybody shouldn't be doing it.

[C]

I got to stop. I've stopped multiple times.

[B]

What you do?

[A]

Are you a bad. You're a bad texter driver?

[C]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I'll just do some. I catch myself just scrolling sometimes. Try.

[A]

Can't have this. Eighteen Hawk falls asleep.

[C]

I'll stop. My kids, they're old enough. Dad, come on. Because I'll be in a light, so I do the light. Light, stop. Green light, dad. Green light, go.

[A]

Yeah, but.

[C]

Yeah, that's my reminder. I put it down.

[A]

But Australia, Australia has nobody's on their phone while driving.

[C]

Texas driving.

[A]

So there's every red light. Basically has a kid. You got nobody on their phone while driving. Now, granny, you're wearing a seatbelt in the back seat as well. Feels like you lose some freedoms over there, but it's very beautiful, very nice. And there's nobody texting and driving.

[C]

Good drivers here. Good. From my opinion, good drivers here. Compared to now downtown, it may be different, but out, you know, kind of suburbs there, good drivers here. South Florida is wild. You get young drivers, you get people from all over the place. Get old drivers. Those are. Those are the guys. Those are guys and gals you got to watch out for. But out here, very polite people just let you over. Different world down there. So.

[A]

Well, you got to watch around of boots up here, you know. Hey, great work this week, boys. We appreciate the hell out of you. Come out here behind the glass. Great work, boys.

[D]

Good work.

[A]

Hell yeah. Let's enjoy the hell out of tonight. We got baseball that matters. We'll be talking about that tomorrow. And kicking off another incredible NFL weekend. Even though the matchups might look like shite, let's remember football always delivers. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. Anything. Thank you.

[B]

Let's have another good week next week.

[A]

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[F]

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[A]

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