The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 — 1424

“BA Day” with Bruce Arians, MNF Recap, Jaguars Head Coach Liam Coen, TJ Oshie, Brewers Manager Pat Murphy, Darius Butler & A.J. Hawk

Date: October 7, 2025
Host: Pat McAfee | Regulars: AJ Hawk, Darius Butler, The Toxic Table (Boston Connor & Ty Schmidt), Tone Digs
Special Guests: Bruce Arians, Liam Coen, TJ Oshie, Pat Murphy

Episode Overview

This extra-packed Tuesday episode of PMS 2.0 (dubbed “BA Day” for guest Bruce Arians) delivers a hyperactive blend of prime NFL Week 5 discussion, behind-the-scenes coaching insights, and rare interviews with winners across sports. Pat McAfee and crew break down the historic comebacks of the NFL weekend, Jacksonville’s electric Monday Night Football victory, two-way phenom Travis Hunter, and feature deep talks with Jags’ head coach Liam Coen, new ESPN NHL analyst TJ Oshie, and Brewers manager Pat Murphy. The guys also banter about the culture of coaching, kicker drama, and the unusual state of football, baseball, and hockey through their honest, free-wheeling style.

Headline Themes

• NFL Week 5: Record-tying 6 Double-Digit Comebacks (esp. Jaguars vs. Chiefs MNF)
• Trevor Lawrence’s “Moment” and Leadership Discussion
• Travis Hunter’s Historic Two-Way Play — Usage, Management, and Ceiling
• Jaguars Culture & Defense — Coaching Perspectives with Liam Coen
• Hockey Season Launch & Inside Stories with TJ Oshie
• Baseball Playoff Surprises & Milwaukee Brewers’ Rise
• Big Picture Coaching (Discipline vs. Modern Expectations)
• Special Teams and New Rules’ Effect (Kickoffs, K-Balls)
• Kicking Carousel & Colts Talk

Key Episode Segments & Insights

1. BA Day & Guests in the Thunderdome (00:00–00:49)

• Pat welcomes everyone to BA Day and dubs Bruce Arians their “coach on- and off-air.”
• NHL Season Drop highlighted, with Darius Butler repping Florida Panthers gear.
• Upcoming: TJ Oshie joins to talk hockey & ESPN.

2. NFL WEEK 5 HISTORIC COMEBACKS & MONDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL RECAP (02:19–08:38)

• Six double-digit comebacks — ties NFL record.
  • Pat: “If you have two of these in one weekend, I think you’re pretty excited if you’re the NFL... For six to happen...the weakest slate turns to the most exciting.”
• Jags 28, Chiefs 24:
  • Trevor Lawrence leads 14-point comeback, "final drive magic."
  • Pat, on Lawrence’s clutch TD: “This might be the biggest win of his career. Most primetime big win in my eyes.”
• Critique of Chiefs: “13 penalties, bad on special teams, red zone misfires.”
  • Bruce Arians (06:16): “Of all things, the 13 penalties…their redzone defense let them down. Ezra Cleveland needs a game ball.”

3. Trevor Lawrence, Narrative Shift, and Leadership (07:23–09:35)

• Pat: “He was the prince that was promised…to have his moment, make those throws, this was awesome to see.”
• Darius Butler: “There are moments he looks like the moment’s too big, but he stepped up and made the plays.”
• Trevor’s “birthday game” gets much love.

4. Travis Hunter: Two-way Unicorn! (09:35–16:15)

• Topic: How the Jags/Coen use Hunter on both sides of the ball; comparisons to Deion Sanders, Patrick Peterson doing both in the NFL.
• Darius (09:35): “You just let Travis Hunter do what the hell Travis Hunter wants as long as he can stay healthy. He’s a true unicorn.”
• Bruce Arians (11:08): “Biggest thing is learning both game plans every week. Keep it simple for him.”
• Hunter’s Mental & Physical Load:
  • Discussion of how hard it is for him to process both offensive & defensive playbooks; team is “majoring” him in offense.

5. JAGS HEAD COACH LIAM COEN Joins (13:26–34:58)

• On prepping the team:

  • Coen: "Each week it's just about getting better, regardless of the logo we're playing."

• “FAST” Playing Style Motto:

  • Physical, Attacking, Situational Masters, Tough.

• On Trevor Lawrence (16:15):

  • “He looked ticked off—a good thing. The resilience, the effort. He takes responsibility for his actions...big step in the right direction.”

• On Hunter Management (27:47):

  • “Each week, look to improve the schedule. We’re in a good place...can’t tell you his limit, but he’ll keep getting the ball. On defense, we try to keep it simple, package calls for him.”
  • Notes from Colorado: practiced mostly defense, packages on offense.

  “He’s starting to get both, but getting more offense than defense in the NFL. He’s a special talent, and we’re just scratching the surface.” — Liam Coen (28:57)

• On Defense/Scheme:

  • New DC Anthony Campanelli brings "fire, accountability, authenticity."
  • Huge jump in takeaways: “Last year, only nine takeaways. Already at 14.”

• Turning Points & Locker Room Chemistry:

  • Down 14-0 to Chiefs, defense rallies; “Trevor’s steady, fiery demeanor…just chipped away at it.”

6. Sideline Discipline Controversy: Cardinals' Gannon (35:17–41:55)

• Jonathan Gannon sideline incident:
  • Pat: “Not acceptable in the modern game—can’t put your hands on players; old vs. new coaching debate.”
  • Bruce Arians ("old school") (38:05): “I didn’t think much of it…league will contact Cardinals, handle internally. I hope it’s OK.”
  • Darius Butler ("player side") (38:40): “That is a line you cross...once you put your hand on someone, you can't control the reaction.”

7. NHL Season Launch & TJ Oshie Interview (46:53–57:06)

• TJ Oshie on joining ESPN:
  • “First time watching as a fan, never watched NHL growing up—just played…excited to bring perspective.”
• Hockey Locker Room Culture:
  • On personality in the game: “It’s a team-first culture, but personalities are coming through more. If you could see locker rooms, it’s wild.”
• On Stanley Cup Win/OVI Partying:
  • “There’s probably not a better guy to party with than Ovechkin. The Cup stand almost broke my arms.”
• On Panthers Chasing 3peat:
  • Darius Butler as Panthers superfan (54:01): “Just gotta get in…Barky being hurt tough, but if anyone can do it, it’s these guys.”
• Connor McDavid’s deal and loyalty:
  • “If I was his teammate, I’d run through a wall for him. Says he wants the Cup above all.”

8. Brewers’ Manager Pat Murphy (103:32–117:33)

• On Brewers Team Chemistry:
  • “No one expected us to be here…but it’s about the guys in the room. They care about each other.”
• On Jacob Mizarowski’s 105 mph heater:
  • “The mph gets the headlines…but players can time up anything if they know it’s coming. He needs to just keep throwing strikes, mature.”
• Culture & Leadership:
  • “Our role as managers is often overrated. You set standards, get the right guys, and let players lead.”
• Having fun as manager:
  • “You have to. We’re not that important. You set the standards, let the group be itself.”
• Football crossover:
  • “I’m a football guy at heart…coaching is about having a team that wins in multiple ways.”
• Legendary moment:
  • Offers up a (now illegal) “punt spiral” play concept to Pat and the crew.

9. Late-Show Banter & BS or No BS with BA (69:48–91:49)

• Travis Hunter:
  • Arians: “No BS—Let him play both ways as long as he doesn’t overload mentally. The faster he plays, the better.”
• Joe Flacco QB drama:
  • Flacco traded within the AFC North; Ty bemoans the Packers facing him.
• Young QBs in the NFL:
  • BA: "Total bullshit" that there aren’t enough talented young QBs. “The league is in great hands.”
• Ravens trouble?:
  • BA: “No BS after 44 given up at home, but I still think they make the playoffs—injuries are the issue.”
• Colts are best team?:
  • BA: “No BS — plus-74 point differential. Big, strong, fast; just need to stay healthy.”

10. Special Teams & Rule Talk (139:28–149:27)

• New NFL kickoff, touchbacks, and K-ball rules:
  • Kickers can now use “broken in” K-balls—huge for making longer field goals.
  • Pat: “It’s a 10-15 yard difference; game strategy at end of games revolves around kickoffs now.”
  • Decisions on who’s returning kicks; special teams more crucial than ever.
  • Arians: “You trust your guy—don’t change coaching for a fill-in kicker.”
• Colts kicker carousel:
  • Michael Badgley (“Money Badger”) joined the team; quick discussion on the challenge of being a “carousel kicker.”

11. College Football Minute with BA (152:50–158:28)

• Texas struggles, Arch Manning:
  • BA: “Every QB keeps working fundamentals—I think his off-platform throws are off this year.”
• Ohio State, Alabama, Miami:
  • BA: “Had to pick right now, it's Ohio State. Defense plus efficient QB, that’s what you need.”

12. Closing Tradition: BA’s Putt for Cash (161:24–end)

• Coach Bruce Arians sinks 4/4 putts live on the Thunderdome’s in-studio green—never done before.
  • 40 winners x $500 each to people who repost. Epic walk-off.
  • Pat, losing it: “That was sick…BA can’t miss!”

Notable Quotes & Moments with Timestamps

• Pat on Lawrence’s game-winning drive (02:18–04:35):
  “Trevor Lawrence electrifying…fourth quarter, less than a minute, perfect ball, off his back foot. This one down the sideline, how you doing, keep it moving.”
• Arians on Jags O-line hero (06:16):
  “Ezra Cleveland needs to get a game ball. Steps up, knocks DE down, opens the hole for Trevor.”
• Darius on Travis Hunter’s status (09:35):
  “Let him do what the hell he wants as long as he’s healthy. He’s a unicorn.”
• Coen on Trevor’s demeanor (16:15):
  “He looked ticked off throughout the game—something I appreciated.”
• BA on modern coaching blow-ups (38:05):
  “Old school, I didn’t think much of it…and the league will contact the Cardinals. Hope all’s ok for him.”
• Oshie on Cup celebrations and Ovechkin (52:01):
  “Ovi sets the tone and we all follow. My arms were dead for days after those Cup stands.”
• Pat Murphy on team building (104:19):
  “Nobody predicted us to be over .500, but it’s because of the guys in the room. Sounds corny, but it’s real.”

Episode Takeaways

• Jaguars and Trevor Lawrence gain national cred with dramatic primetime win—team has bought in to new coach, culture, and uses Travis Hunter to change the game.
• Travis Hunter is pushing the limits on two-way play at the NFL level—coaches keeping it “simple but special.”
• NFL Week 5 is labeled one for the ages for drama, with comebacks, kicker heroics, and coaching blunders.
• The new special teams rules truly impact outcomes—kickoffs and longer field goals now matter more and bring new intrigue.
• Locker room vibes, coaching culture, and character (across all sports) are central for turning good teams to great teams—from the Jaguars to the Brewers and beyond.
• BA and the Crew’s blend of expert analysis and unfiltered entertainment make each headline feel urgent, real, and unusually accessible—whether you’re a football lifer or a hockey/baseball casual.

For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This is an episode you’ll want to catch for deep NFL insights, in-the-trenches coaching stories, and backstage passes to how a team’s chemistry is made — plus essential context for why Jaguars, Travis Hunter, and primetime NFL drama are the stories dominating 2025 sports talk.

Memorable Final Moment:
Coach Bruce Arians drills 4/4 putts on air—Thunderdome erupts; BA Day is solidified as legend. (163:33–165:25)

Enjoy BA Day next week and watch for the latest on Travis Hunter, Jags’ rise, and the beautiful chaos of football season.