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PMS 2.0 1425 - Watt Wednesday, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, Roman Reigns, Emeka Egbuka, Stanford Steve, & AJ Hawk
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A
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our Hubba the Bow. The Thunderdome on this watch. Wednesday, October 8, 2025 this program begins now. Football is magical. In sports are the greatest. We're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day. And football is normally the topic of discussion on this particular show, but today's a little bit different. And yes, we have 12 year NFL vet and Super bowl champion, AQ Shipley. Here baby. AQ. Let's go, boy. Penn State guy. Penn State. State.
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B
We are Penn State.
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A
And what, what are we? And what are we?
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B
We're a bad football team right now.
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A
No, you guys lost one bad game. Oregon's a really good team. I mean obviously you got.
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B
What about the next one?
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A
Well, UCLA obviously guys don't show up. It's a lot of travel over there. Nico Iva at some point was going to play like Nico. And yeah, it wasn't just new Oswald. I mean the whole team just ready to to kind of beat that Penn State ass. It felt like over there at ucla. And that's what happened to Penn State, brother. You still have faith. We saw everything's still in front of us.
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C
Plenty of time.
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D
Everything's still in front.
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A
A lot of big games. You got to go to Iowa. It's going to be tough. Obviously still happening. Got a lot of big games ahead of you. Can still make it happen. Why do you sound like you're losing faith right now?
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B
Well, that's the sell. You got to beat Indiana, you got to beat Ohio State. But you lost to UCLA on the road. It's tough. It's tough.
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C
Hey, they're better than their record says.
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B
Of course.
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Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Everything db, good D, bad D going to be on today. Cannot to see who made it and who did not Absolutely. We should start judging teams a little bit more from everything. Db, good D, bad DN into the trenches. Remember last week Jacksonville Jaguars were on both of them. They were top 50 line. And also in the good D part. And they go get a big win over the Chiefs. Maybe it wasn't a surprise.
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It was not. Now if you watch the program wasn't a surprise. But you said we used to talk about football. We're not talking about football.
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A
No. On that note, let's go to the talks table at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Ty, listen, it's a great day to be a Yankees fan.
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F
It certainly is.
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A
And last night it was a great night to be a sports fan. Even if you're not a Baseball fan. That was spectacular. Everything you could possibly want in a baseball game happened. We're talking ding dongs galore. Superstars making massive plays in the environment being absolutely electrifying. Talk about the Yankees saving their season last night. And Aaron Judge, hey, don't look or double look now. Aaron Judge last night said, I'm the best player to ever walk on this damn earth. He looked like a king over there for the Yankees.
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C
Yeah, he did. I mean, you mentioned it. You know, it was, it was basically the perfect baseball game if you're a Yankee. Yankee saying, well, I shouldn't say that because I tweeted about an hour into the game. This would have been, I don't know, 9:08. And I basically said, hey, unfortunately the Blue Jays are a hundred times better than the Yankees. This is just absolutely pathetic. And you'll see why. Vlad Jr. Once again, third game in a row, hits a home run in the first inning. So just right away, you know, kind of the opposite of what you need. And then Ernie Clement, a guy who no one's really ever heard of, but has been a thorn in the side. And then, boom. Vlad Jr goes Charlie Hustle. Are you kidding me? Into home plate. One of the coolest slides ever in one of the biggest games, you know, that he'll ever play in. And at this point you're just thinking, the Yankees are dead. I mean, it's 6:1 early, like really early. So, yeah, I almost turned the game off. But then, you know, we go to the third inning and Judge doubles down the line. The Yankees get one back, you know, but. But we've seen this song in dance so many times. Who cares? You're down four runs. This Blue Jays team's going to continue to score. Wait a minute though. We got two guys on base in the bottom of the fourth inning. Judge up again, and here it is. I mean, this is his October or October moment. He absolutely blasts one down the left field line. A lot of people saying, the ghosts in Monument park kept that one fair because it was wind. He goes off the foul pole. Three run homer to tie the game at six. And for this, like the other angles are kind of what sell this. And that's why it's so magical.
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A
Yeah, the other angles are incredible. Baseball is magic. This is from center field from the Yankees with the sound. Here's the pitch. High fly ball, deep left field, down the left field line. It is off the far pole. Hey now, hey now. Pay now. Three run homer, Aaron Judge. This game is tied at six. Six. What a Moment for Aaron Judge and the Yankees fans. It's not just this one. We have one down, I think left field line. They put out and they put out a couple other slow mos. Here's from the crowd on a two strike pitch. It's a drive down the line. If it spirits his moment, it is. It's time. Judge has arrived. Packed out, covered from all angles. It's six, six. All of a sudden in the bottom of the fourth. Die Schmidt.
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C
Yeah, and you know, I mean what, what happened later is awesome, but after that home run, you know, like, yeah, you got to play the game out. But guess what? Yankees are not losing this game. You see what Judge did in the dugout. A lot of people saying, hey, this guy shrinks in October. He stinks. Right after he hits his home run, he goes, he finds the camera. Well, give a shout out to the people. And you know what? For the haters too.
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B
Yeah, I'm really good at this game like that.
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C
Yeah, awesome moment for Judge. But yeah, if you're a Yankees fan, hey, listen, we still, it's early. You got to end the game here, Judge. Right away, boom. Next inning, diving play to. There's a runner on second base there, one out. If that gets down, that's definitely scoring another run. And then, you know, it can't just, it can't just be judged. That's been my whole thing. Jazz Chisholm. Next inning, an absolute nuke with one of the sweetest bat flips you'll ever see. Yankees go up 7 6. And that was their, their first lead in the series thus far. So we've played a lot of baseball to that point. And then it was just, hey, just gotta hold on. Fast forward to the ninth inning, the pit. The Pittsburgh kid, Dave Bednar gets Vladdy Jr. To ground out. What an incredible play by Jose Caballero. But he completes the five out save and the Yankees win nine six. They're still alive. Two one. And we got another game tonight in New York.
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A
So just riddle me this. Whenever it comes to the baseball, when vibes are that immaculate, whenever Big Mo starts swinging in your favor like it was last night, obviously for the Yankees, and you know, you got Judgy giving a little double look and shout out to him. Doing that, by the way, it was getting loud, very loud. I was maybe, you know, stirring it up a little bit with the Cal Rawley Aaron Judge conversation. But whenever Aaron Judge is around you, there is an aura that radiates around him. We got a chance to chat with him at the home Run Durban, he's a gigantic human math. I mean he is a huge guy. And this is a moment that is going to be talked about for a judge for a long time. On the brink of execution.
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C
Yeah.
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On the ledge of irrelevancy, dancing with New York being maybe the worst baseball city of all time. With the Mets not even making the playoffs and the Yankees getting cold swept in the first round, Aaron Judge decides to put on a Superman cape, have a massive night. And then Jazz Chisholm, one of the most electrifying people of all time, hits a ding dong. Place is going crazy. Is this one of those things that they can carry for the rest of this run to the World Series? Is this one of those nights where, yeah, they're down two one now, is this going to change the trajectory of this team potentially in your eyes?
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C
I mean, you have to think that way because like last game, you know, game two, they scored like eight runs, but they were getting their asses kicked the whole time. So you can't really point to that and be like, oh, here we go. Like the bats woke up a little bit. Like last night their offense woke up, which is kind of what we talked about yesterday when I said like the Yankees have a tough time winning games where they're just hitting a bunch of singles and kind of moving guys over. Like, they need guys like Judge and Jazz Chisholm and John Carlos Stanton. They need these guys to hit homers. And the Blue Jays don't have a ton of playoff experience. Like, they are a very good team. They won the AL east this year. But like now the pressure is kind of on them because coming into this series, like they have to throw a bullpen game tonight. The Yankees get Cam Schlitler, the kid who threw eight innings and had 12 strikeouts against the Red Sox who like just did it the other night. So the idea now is just, hey, okay, like last night was always going to be very difficult because they had a legitimate, you know, starter on the hill tonight. They don't. They. The guy who is starting the game tonight is Louis Varlan, the guy who gave up that homer to Judge to even the game in the. Yeah, so like, and, and a bunch of guys had to pitch last night because they went to the bullpen very early. So the Yankees have a decided advantage again today in New York. Like, and that was the other thing. As a fan, all these games, like, it, it just, it takes you out of it so much. Like, I was ready to turn the game off in the third inning last night and I'M sure people in the stadium, like a lot of people maybe considering leaving. You're down 6:1. It's like, hey, we. Well, no, because playoff game, stock market.
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Doesn'T sleep all right, but lives in New York City.
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C
The thing is, they've gotten their asses beat the first two games. Like it hasn't been. And this game is 6:1. So, like, you're thinking, like, oh, they're gonna get beat 12 to 2 again, no heart, nothing. And they. They woke up last night and it needed to be judged. It at. He's been Great. He's batting over.500 in the playoffs so far this year. So even if they would have gotten eliminated last night, people still would have killed him. But he's not the problem. But he needed to be the guy to kind of get this thing going back in the right direction. And he was last night. So, hey, they win tonight. Anything can happen in a Game 5 in Toronto.
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A
Who's the manager?
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C
Upper Aaron Boone.
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How about this guy? Keeping the boys motivated. How about that's good managing Sarah Boone.
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Football.
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He almost had a disastrous decision last night. That does not matter because they won. But he challenged a catcher's interference in like the third inning when he'd already lost a challenge.
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Boom.
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No more challenges left for you. You might need those later in the game. We don't need to be burning those down. Five in the third inning. But it doesn't matter because they won't.
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The boys motivated. The boys locked in. And former super bowl winning coach, now offseason. That means something, to be able to keep the boys kind of motivated, especially in baseball. I got six one in baseball early. We just got our asses absolutely smacked the last two games. Boone steps in there and says, boys, be like me. You know, Started telling tales about the great things that he's accomplished, motivated him, kept him rallied. And Aaron Judge said, holy shit. For you, Boone, I'm gonna go do this. So maybe the Yankees fans get off his back a little bit.
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B
That's a moment for Judge, because it's real easy to quit when you're six down six to one.
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F
I mean, that is.
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B
You're looking for any excuse to roll over and just die at that point.
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If you're not a dog, he's bingo.
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And then one guy makes that swing of the bat and the whole place just turns upside down.
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That's great coaching.
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Yes, it is.
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You could say unbelievable.
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C
And you know, listen, I was killing him before the game because he trotted out the exact same lineup as they did games One and two is like, yeah, they got beat by like a combined 20 runs. Like that didn't work. Maybe let's switch things up a little bit, maybe try something new. But Boonie just said, nope, I like my guys, I'm confident in them. Everything's still out in, you know, ahead of us. Which he said about 500,000 times this year when things have been going bad. So I do give him credit. That's big. But as a Yankees fan, like, that was awesome for Judge. But guess what, you can't lose today. Like, you know, this is supposed to be the moment that catapults them to go on to win the World Series this year. So hopefully that's what it does.
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We'll see. Shout out to baseball being awesome right now. Honestly, we are very, very grateful. And Big Dumper hit a home run to a guy that was wearing a shirt saying, hey, hit it to me. Big dump.
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C
Yeah, dump one here. 61 in the playoffs.
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Cal, Cal, Raleigh. Big Dumper hits an absolute dinger to a guy wearing a shirt that says hit one here. 61, which is the number. And then later would take the shirt off and say, hit 62 here. So he was just ready for it. Look at the sea around him. And he just so happens to be at the exact spot where Dumper dumps one to after the game. Obviously get a chance to meet chit chat. And that's a beautiful moment. Baseball is really. We got a movie like outfield situation here with Dumper's fan calling his shot. We got Aaron Judge, one of the biggest stars in the game, having a massive night night. Baseball's doing it. Don't look now.
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Hot bat.
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Baseball's baseball swinging a hot bat. Yeah.
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And then finally tonight, four more games, all elimination games. So like same deal. You would think several of these games will hopefully deliver some moments like we had last night. Because I'll tell you what, when teams backs are against the wall, there's enough good players like it, crazy stuff happens. So if you don't have anything to do tonight, which, you know, kind of perfect, we're on Wednesday here. Kind of looking ahead to the next NFL week like you, you get, you'd be far better pressed for like spending a little bit of time to maybe watch one or a couple of these games.
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A lot of cracking of the bats.
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A lot of cracking of the bats last night.
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Also dropping of the puck.
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Yeah.
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Hell yeah.
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Three piece last night for the NHL's opening night, obviously highlighted by the Pittsburgh Penguins smacking around the New York Rangers. But none of the Rangers fans care because the Yankees get a massive win. So they're saying, who cares? But I cares. Okay, Cindy Crosby and the boys are back. Pittsburgh Penguins win three zip. Under the leadership of new coach Dan Muse. That bald man old coach is on the other bench. Yeah. Solly's over there. Pens get a huge win. That's great for the NHL if Sidney Crosby and the Pittsburgh Penguins are relevant and good. It's also great for this particular program because we will talk about it a lot more if that happens. To kick off the three piece to kick off NHL's opening night is a team that's going for a three peat. The Florida Panthers get a win over the Chicago Bucket Blackhawks. Congratulations. Darius Butler.
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We had a similar situation too. Not the coaches, the goalies. We had our young guy, Spencer Knight in goal for the Chicago Blackhawks. We got it done. Got a little close. We got it done. 3, 2. Didn't cover, unfortunately for me. But the boys got it done on banner night. Starting off 1 and 0.
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And the Avalanche win 4 to 1 over the Los Angeles Kings. But nobody's talking about the score of the game.
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No.
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No. All anybody's talking about is mullet boy bringing a hammer after a huge shot is delivered. Fair shot right there. Fair check right there is what everybody's saying. But immediately afterwards, now, his head was bent down for a pass. Teammate comes in and says that that's not how this is going to go. Yeah. And this man right here, Mallet. John Mallet. Mallet. Yeah. Dog. Do not want to fight him. We apologize for getting your first name wrong.
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Maybe Malot.
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Malot. Mallet. We apologize for all of it because we've actually watched not only film of you fighting, but this is his brother. Yup. Knockout. Yeah. So this, this is a family you do not want to hands with. And if you're the Los Angeles Kings, thank God we got a UFC fighter on skates as our guy.
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Yeah.
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And also there's a lot of people, I guess, hockey purists who say that was a fair hit. Shouldn't be fighting after a fair hit. I digress. If you're in a sport where you're allowed to get back at a guy who just absolutely demolishes and demoralizes one of your guys, you should definitely be.
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Able to do that.
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And if you can knock somebody out in the middle of this fight, you see Guy actually look at the ref and go, come on, come on, come on. What are we doing here? And they take it to the. I used to get it over with. Seems like that LA Kings team has got a tight squad. Okay. Now, it didn't do shit for him on opening night against a great Colorado team. But hockey starting, baseball swinging a hot bat and football is doing its thing. And I don't know if you saw this past weekend there was actually a segment done by CBS which we like to run every once in a while. Time for ladies and gentlemen, askj. Yeah, let's go run it.
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Win in an Oklahoma drill.
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You or TJ? Oh, me?
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I'm bigger than TJ.
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Yes. Yeah, I got like £25 on him still. Just pure, pure size advantage there. It's all about low man wins. Also. I think he would admit to that one. He wouldn't admit to a get off race like the fastest off the line of scrimmage, but I think he would admit to it.
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Coming up next, Ask tj. Aw, ladies and gentlemen, the man that gave that answer, J.J. watt J. How you doing, Budd? Do you really believe that about tj? Because I think he takes your old ass and breaks you in half and then does the kick. And I appreciate you answering questions like that. You're so good at it. You're so good at it.
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Yeah, no, I appreciate it, you guys. I mean, we have Ask JJ and then it gets more formal. Ask JJ on Sundays, so it's a little loosey goosey over here. We have our good time and then on Sunday we put on the tie and we slick the hair back and we do, we do the professional game.
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Hair looks phenomenal. The chemistry in the booth is real. You're doing a great job calling games, even though the games might not always be the best games. How about this? Texans teams, back to back blowouts. Obviously they get the Titans and then this past weekend they get the Ravens. Ravens. I don't know how many things have been said about them this week. A lot of things not good. They traded away a player yesterday. Yeah, I didn't want to get those wrong. I apologize. Away gets traded away. He's a good player. So it's like dire times in Baltimore. You obviously got a chance to chat with them. Whenever you're doing preparation for the game, you see them in person. Texans really good, Ravens really bad. What are your thoughts coming out of that game?
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Combo both for sure. It was. I mean, I've played in that stadium a few times. Texans, that's their first ever win there, so I've never won there. And anybody who's played there knows like the Ravens that place. It's just you expect to Go in there and have a violent, physical, tough football game where the offense is going to hit you in the mouth, the defense is going to play strong ball, the crowd's going to be good. And I was saying in our pregame a little bit, even day games kind of feel like night games there just because of the black and the purple and the defense and just the aura of the place in this game was none of that. This game, after about halftime, maybe a little later, but not even felt like a preseason game and the fourth quarter really felt like a preseason game. And it just. The Ravens are depleted on injuries. There is zero question about that. They have a ton of injuries all over. I think almost half of their salary cap was on the bench for this game. But Kyle Van Noyce said himself, look at the 49ers. They have a bunch of injuries. They don't complain. You got to find a way in this league. And it was, it was a very, very poor product unfortunately. And for them, crazy. They're still the favorite betting favorite to win the AFC north, but they got to figure it out quickly here. The bye week, next week is going to be massive for them.
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Okay, so let's about the AFC North. The Pittsburgh Steelers are on a buy. Everybody around them in the AFC north takes an L and then there's a quarterback swap from one part of Ohio to the next. There's full chaos in AFC north right now and it's not what we expected it to be. How do you feel about Flacco getting traded over to the Bengals from the Cleveland Browns? And what are your thoughts on him potentially beating the packers twice this season and then next Thursday he's got the Pittsburgh Steelers in an AFC north rivalry game that he knows a lot about because he's played for every team.
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Yeah, I mean it's, it's pretty crazy. I think if he happened to beat the packers twice, that would be just an unreal story. He's already had so many cool moments in his career. I do think that anytime you see an inter division trade, especially at the most important position in the league, that's something that should perk your eyes and ears up because that you don't just try and help out opponent within your division that you're trying to beat. So there is some interesting aspects to that. But the Bengals are clearly just trying to somehow some way scrap and claw their way to the point where Joe Burrow gets back because they know what he's capable of and they know that if they can just scrape out a few wins and Put themselves in position to have a chance. Once he comes back, they'll be all right. And Blacko, certainly he's done it before.
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Yes, he went out of the off the couch to the Browns, led them to the playoffs. Which is why I think Stefanski brought him back this year after a year with the Colts that did not go great. Other than the fact that he got to wear really cool cleats on coconut husk grass turf over here in Indianapolis. He goes back to Cleveland. Obviously that quarterback room had a lot of conversation going into the year because the third round pick in Dylan Gabriel, fifth round pick in Shador Sanders, super bowl champion Kenny Pickett was in there at one point and Joey Flacco was named starter of them all. Shador Sanders was kind of attack by cameras or. Shador Sanders was at an event with a lot of cameras that were at it. We don't know what it was, but he was at a car dealership. So it might have been an event where he was doing something, giving back, you know, who knows what all he was doing. And there was a good three camera shoot, 8K cameras.
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Oh, yeah, beautiful.
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He looked very good in these shots live from the car dealership's lobby. And he said everything he said was like, thanks to Joe. I appreciate Joe. I leaned on Joe. Joe helped me. I talked to him after the trade. We talked about how quick it was. That was wild. And then he just kind of moved on. It was like he gave the perfect answer for the situation. And I think that quarterback room has dealt with this all pretty well. And Joe Flacco obviously being a 45 year vet and the way he acts and talks like I'm not their uncle. Like I think he has helped with that entire room and any success that they have from there, I think they will give credit to Joe. Just like a lot of places have in this kind of journeyman career that Joe Flacco has had. Is it going to work for the Bengals though? I don't know if they could block anybody.
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True.
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So don't think they can. Yeah, well, Joe Flacco back there, they're gonna have to.
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But, well, footsteps, you know, you got to be careful. He can move a pretty decent amount.
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But if they can protect him just a little bit, if they can just let Joe Flacco just get that thing from here.
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Yeah.
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To here.
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Exactly.
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There's a chance. Yeah, yeah, sure. There's a lot of weapons out there. Oh, my God. There's a number one. There's another number one. How many number ones have we got around here. I didn't know that. It's like I go to a fast food, I'll take two number ones. Yeah, he got that here. And since that's Joe Flacco's thinking, this is the best time of his entire life. Got Green Bay Packers. I already noticed. Yeah, I already beat this team.
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Exactly.
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No, I threw for 140 yards.
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Still.
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But you managed the game.
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Yeah. You see the minute drive to go in and win a game?
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You tell me. We'll just do that for the whole game. So Joe's already got it figured out.
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When's the last time we had a team trade in their division? A quarterback at that.
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Was it Donovan?
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Oh, man, that's on the spot to Washington.
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Yeah, that might be it. Actually, that might be the only one.
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Did you hear what Tone just said?
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C
Yeah, I did.
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Everybody just heard. Yeah. Yeah, that's actually a great. That's good thought. That's a good thought from Tone.
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Tone, you just said that. Sorry. It's inside joke right now for four of us because Tone is in Hammer down. Tone, what did you say?
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AQ was talking to me this morning, and he thought that Joe might retire today.
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Why?
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Pretty good take.
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Why would he do that? Just because he got traded to the Bengals to. Just say no more. I'm not doing it.
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Listen, when you're 40 years old, you go to Cleveland and you think you're going to be the number three, the number four, the mentor in the room, and then all of a sudden you're starting and you're like, okay, well, this is great, but I'm in Cleveland. And then they trade you to Cincinnati. Even worse scenario. You got no offensive line, no blocking. Don't be surprised. Wednesday practice, hour and a half from now.
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I'm not doing it.
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I'm done. They're saying that's what Amari Cooper did when he saw Geno Smith throw a slant route in the training camp. That's what I saw on the Internet. And that's for shoot.
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Yeah, I understand. I understand that. But there's a lot of.
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I mean, Ja' Marr Chase is. Was their second leading tackler in the game this weekend.
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Good. He's a great athlete. He walked in backwards, scored touchdown. Joe Flacco saw that. So there's either that mindset that he's, like, completely done with all the shits, or it's Joe Flacco saying, I could take his 10 to the Super Bowl.
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Chris is always greener over here.
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Yes, it is. Right over there. Especially with everything they Have. Let's talk about some other situations brewing, especially for place you used to call home and a team you used to play for. Go ahead, aq.
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B
Yeah, I'm not sure if you saw the end of the Arizona Cardinals game, the entire second half. It was an epic collapse. And just wanted to get your thoughts on the. The second half of that game.
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D
Yeah. Yeah, man. So I was in the booth, obviously, on Sunday doing our game, and then on the flight home, I started checking to see, you know, what's going on in the rest of the games around the league, and you see the Cardinals are up, and then you start to see the lead dwindle a little bit, and you're like, oh, man, the Titans are making a little run here. And then I get home and I see all the videos, and, man, it was just a tough, tough, tough ending with the fumble at the goal line, with the snap hitting in the head, and then with the interception returned for a touchdown. I mean, think about this Cardinals team. They have lost three games by a total. Not each game, a total of five points in those three games. They've lost them all on the last play game. They are literally three plays away or three missed final field goals away from being five and up. And instead they're now being talked about like this with these types of comedy, of errors, plays going on. And it is. It's just brutal, man. Obviously, for my former team and a team that I have so many friends on that I want to see do so good. This was. This was painful to see.
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A
I think this is still a touchdown. No, I. I think.
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D
I don't disagree with you there, and.
- [25:11]
A
I don't think anybody cares because it's like, can't do it. Can't even be that close. You can't do this, especially in that situation. So I think that is why maybe the football gods were just like, no, nope, not giving it to him. And then everything else that took place, takes place. Feels like this could set up for a dangerous Cardinals team.
- [25:27]
B
No, like, dangerous like, as in it explodes and, like, everybody starts hating each other and they all just quit on the season.
- [25:33]
A
Well, you got gannon Getting fined 100 grand. Yeah.
- [25:35]
C
Yeah.
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A
And that's last time that happened. Bruce Aarons. Okay. Slap somebody in the head in this moment, obviously, that we showed yesterday. I don't know if Billy O and JJ Watts fight at practice, got anything, but this moment that we showed yesterday was the reason for $100,000 fine. Can't happen. You know, the first one, who knows what he's saying he can't do it. The second one, Obviously, optically, in 2025, the NFL does not want to have happen on the sideline of a football game. And, you know, old school coaches. B.A. was actually here yesterday. What was he supposed to do? It's like, all right, well, there's a lot of other answers these days. He gets fined for that. Everybody's calling him a laughingstock. You know, everybody's getting attacked in that building. And they have maybe the best team in football this weekend in a lot House. Oh, no.
- [26:22]
C
Yeah.
- [26:22]
A
The Indianapolis Colts are the cock of the walk, brother. I don't know if you know that. Danny dimes everything. He's doing good. Everything. Shane Steichen doing great. Tyler Warren might be the best player in football. Honestly, could probably play him in multiple positions. We're only using him at one right now. Actually three right now. Putting him at tight end, putting him wide out. He's also fullback, running back, and I think he's taken a snap, so maybe five positions. He's played for us already. This guy is remarkable. Jonathan Taylor is going to score two, three touchdowns a week throughout the rest of the season. And the defense, with Luannarumo smothering, okay, we're all over the place, and we're getting the ball. And Carly Irsay, one of the big three, one of the owners, I had a chance to chat with her before the game whenever she was coming to visit me and my wife's corgi, Chuck. And she certainly had some opinions on how fat Chuck kind of was. And that was one of her first things, is, hey, we gotta take care of that. But she said, hey, the defense feels very confident in the fact that we're going to get some turnovers today because the trajectory or where Geno chooses to throw, we got guys. We got guys in good spots. So game plan was to actively create turnovers. And we also say Cross is getting to the quarterback like every other play. So we're sending pressure. It's like, the Colts are fun to watch. They're explosive offensive and defensively. We got a great punter. Doesn't really have to do anything. And then our field goal kicker, we just signed the money badger, Michael Badgley back to the team is pretty good. The Colts are dominant, but this Cardinals team, they've been mocked and ridiculed.
- [27:47]
C
Yeah.
- [27:48]
A
Literally by everybody. All parties, including the NFL, saying, Clown behavior, bro. $100,000 fine. Can't have it happen. On that note, D, Bud has a question for you.
- [27:57]
E
Yeah, I mean, they are with that game, though. They are familiar with each other. Gannon and obviously Steichem's on that super bowl staff. So, I mean, it is much different offense with Danny Dimes running and Jalen hurts. But what is the. What do you. How do you see the state of the AFC south right now? A lot of expectations were not there for the Colts coming into the season. Maybe a little higher for the Texans, and I don't think they were there for the Jags either. You have the Colts and Jacks sitting up there at the top. Houston look like they're kind of finding their form. And then Tennessee, who knows what's going on there? But what's your overall opinion on the state of AFC South?
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D
Yeah, first we have to address Chuck. Is there a plan? Are we trying to get Chuck in shape? Do we have any sort of program in place?
- [28:39]
A
Yeah, we start him in a stumpy stampede race, see if he likes it, enjoys it.
- [28:45]
D
Oh, my goodness. Man, those legs are doing a lot of work.
- [28:48]
A
Yeah, dude, it's bad. No, he's got good joints, this guy. He's literally a tank.
- [28:54]
B
I thought you said you're taking them in for your doggo suction, kind of get all that stuff out.
- [28:58]
A
I was looking for some dogs and bitch for him, sure. But the thing about it is, his body rejected it. No, I don't want it. This is who he is. I think he was a little bit perturbed by what was going on. Didn't necessarily know where to head. My wife, who he certainly likes and loves a lot more than me, was down at the finish line because, in theory, that's the right move. Chuck obviously couldn't pay attention long enough to find. You know, he couldn't. The other corgis were able to find their. And then obviously, you got to assist him a little bit, make sure he gets to a finish line. This is one shot at moment here. Okay, I go and grab him.
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D
He's built like an ottoman, bro. He's built an ottoman.
- [29:36]
A
Wow. Jj.
- [29:37]
F
Hey, man.
- [29:39]
C
Wow.
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A
That's not fair.
- [29:46]
B
I got, like, a body pillow.
- [29:48]
A
The issue is. The issue is his body would collapse if I was to put my legs on his back. It is at max capac, that body. And this is just the first.
- [29:59]
D
Is Chuck a table fooder? Is he a table food?
- [30:03]
A
To be honest, yeah. He'll eat some of ours. I'm not. I think he does a majority of his eating, like, maybe middle of the day. Because at night, I don't think. I don't see him eating much. Like, he doesn't eat A lot of our food. So I think he potentially gets stuff like a pork or. Yeah. Like a pig or. He has no metabolism.
- [30:20]
C
Yeah.
- [30:20]
A
Okay. When we got him, he was big. We got him. He was big, Big bodied, big boned. He had been, obviously, Corgi's. The whole. He was in a. The camper, a dog store for a long time. He was by far the most mature dog in the store. Nobody wanted this thing. Okay. Nobody wanted.
- [30:39]
B
That's crazy.
- [30:40]
A
I didn't know. I genuinely wonder why. And then once I meet him, I'm like, this guy's a stubborn prick. That is why he's. That is certainly why I assume whenever people would get him out and, like, play with him, he was just maybe the worst of all time.
- [30:54]
C
Just an.
- [30:54]
A
Yeah. Just complete. So him and my wife have built up a great relationship, but I will say he has been bigger than what I thought Corgis were.
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D
Sure.
- [31:02]
A
Since the day he entered our house. Now, certainly. He's certainly gotten bigger. And those little arms do get a. They do get a little bit like this. But that's also potentially because the nerves, you know, are being cut off by his fat on the entire thing. So we're trying. J.J. we're trying.
- [31:17]
H
I love it.
- [31:18]
A
I love it.
- [31:18]
D
I'll get back to D. Butt's question now. I think the AFC style with the Texans starting to figure it out, but, I mean, I don't think there's many people outside of Jacksonville or Indianapolis who saw it going this way this well, this early with Liam Cohen coming into Jacksonville and being able to turn it around so quickly. Massive win against Kansas City. And it's one of those things where I said to somebody yesterday, confidence is a crazy mistress. You start to figure it out. You start to believe in yourselves. Some of these plays that used to be a comedy of errors turn around and turn into a positive for you as an organization. And the more that belief grows, the more that confidence grows. All of a sudden everybody starts playing a little bit better. The ball starts bouncing your way. 99 yard pick sixes are on your terms instead of the other team's terms. So the Colts really crushing it right now. I mean, you turn on that game halfway through it, we flipped on the score and like, wow, crushing the Raiders. So I'm looking forward. I might have a chance here in the near future to check out a Colts game, and I would really enjoy that because I want to see what they're all about and how they're doing. And then the Texans. Texans start to figure it out. Titans Kind of gifted a win there. So they're in the W column. AFC South.
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A
On that note, here's some stats about the AFC South. Here's win, loss, record against other divisions, non division games this season. Win, loss, and the points differential. AFC South, 8 and 6, plus 80. That's a lot of the Colts. Colts right now are. Plus a huge amount. AFC West, 6 and 8, AFC North, 5 and 10. AFC East, 3 and 7. You tell us. Everybody's talking about the AFC south is a laugh.
- [32:52]
E
Ride our coattails.
- [32:53]
A
Yeah, you're welcome. Afc. Remember all the good quarterbacks at the top. Oh, yeah. Danny Dimes are one of them.
- [32:59]
F
Boom, boom.
- [33:00]
A
Just like we said it would now. Fascinating how good the Colts became. Yeah. Like legitimately.
- [33:08]
B
That's all they needed.
- [33:09]
C
Almost otherworldly.
- [33:10]
F
Yeah.
- [33:11]
A
Three positions, three, four positions. We added qb, corner safety.
- [33:17]
B
Yep.
- [33:17]
A
Right. We just signed Pratt yesterday. Pratt. Pratt was on the Raiders. Okay. Was on the Bengals for a long time with Lou Annarumo. Then he was on the Raiders for the first five weeks of the season. Last week before playing the Indianapolis Colts. Non injured, kind of taking off. Then we sign him. So I have no idea what happened there. Pumped he's here, though.
- [33:34]
F
Yes.
- [33:36]
A
But then on the offensive side, it's like Quentin Nelson's become more of a leader. I don't know. A lot of people are gonna be like, see what the Colts were able to do overnight, basically. It's been crazy to experience it. Jj, this has not been predictable. I think I blindly was saying it, but everybody was laughing at me, and I potentially, maybe only half believed it.
- [33:55]
C
Sure.
- [33:55]
A
But on that note.
- [33:57]
D
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [33:58]
A
What's that?
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D
All of a sudden, you were the chief believer in the. You weren't even renewing your ticket when you fucked with.
- [34:07]
A
Yeah, I was a believer, brother. Yeah. AR at the end, remember? I think I created the term believer because I was. I went through the off season, I reevaluated my views on the team with the people that I care about that work at the team. And I said, you know what. What am I going to do? Not be a Colts fan? Yeah. Right. And the people that are wearing the uniforms right now aren't going to be wearing the uniforms forever. So we'll be here after that. So let's remember that, you know, did that whole thing. Then I buy the tickets back, and then we bring in Danny Dimes. I'm like, okay, maybe there's a shot here. I can see it now we get. Now we start ar, started showing up early, start doing the shit before practice. Before everything, I'm like, hold on now. If we have ar, maximum ar, I'm a believer. And if we got dimes, time. Okay, I can. I can. I can buy Gardner Minshew almost took us to the playoffs. That's right. Then we bring in a couple guys on defensive side, and we still got good trade pieces.
- [35:01]
B
Great.
- [35:02]
A
Before the trade deadline, we can still make some plays. I think so. Yeah. I was dying out on the people wearing the uniforms and the pads because of how they're representing the things they had been doing and the way they'd been acting and talking and portraying a lot of things, but they got to live there.
- [35:17]
D
Is that a double ring? I gotta ask. I just noticed this for the first time. Can I get the meaning of the double ring?
- [35:22]
A
Okay, so silica or rubber wedding ring, obviously, because I don't want to get that.
- [35:28]
C
Yeah, right.
- [35:28]
A
And then this is baby girl's hair tie. One of her hair ties. Ah, nice. See, that could.
- [35:35]
B
That's nice.
- [35:35]
A
Could be pink or baby blue, but I think that's too loud, so just kind of put it here, you know, in the entire thing.
- [35:40]
D
I like that.
- [35:41]
A
I'm a good. Hey, I got a good ponytail.
- [35:44]
C
Nice tight pony.
- [35:45]
A
Yeah, I got a good ponytail. I used to have long hair, so I know you gotta go from the bottom, you know, because whenever that ship bunches up in there, it thought, you don't get it all because there's gonna be pieces falling out of the box. So you gotta get that thing all the way up here. Flyers, tighten these things up. All right. Go say what's up to mom. Yeah. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, from down the hallway, I did that ponytail, bragging about it. So that's what that is, brother. That's what that is. Cults are the real deal. A team that might not be the real deal deal in the AFC east is having problems all over the place. Go ahead, Ty Schmidt.
- [36:22]
C
Yeah, jh. What the hell is going on with the jets defense? It seems like every year, that's kind of the one thing you can hang your hat hat on. Everyone always talks about how good they are, and then they get Aaron Glenn, and he assures everyone he's gonna turn it around, and it just really hasn't looked like that. Now, granted, it does seem like the jets are losing about 12 to 15 fumbles per game, so I don't know if that's necessarily helping out the defense, but what the hell is going on here? And is this going to get fixed anytime soon?
- [36:50]
E
Man?
- [36:50]
D
You know, we. We Did a Jets preseason game and we did the jets in week one. And you talked to Aaron Glenn, everybody in the organization, and it's. You just. You definitely have a sense of that. Like, all right, this is. They're very locked in. This is pure football. They're going to go out there and they're going to fix all the issues that the jets have had in the past. I mean, the one stat right now that's blowing my mind. And I'm like, I've asked like two or three people to check this because I. Zero turnovers in five games. Like, the defense hasn't even accidentally fallen on a ball that the other team dropped. Like, there hasn't been a ball that's bounced up in the air. Like that is. I think it's the only time since 1933 that's ever happened. Five games to start a season with zero takeaways. I mean, like, you guys have played like. Like people just drop the ball by running into the line of scrimmage sometimes, or the ball will bounce off a face mask and up into the air and you can grab one. So I guess that's a little bad luck in addition to not being able to get them. But I hope they turned around. When the New York teams are good, it's. It's fun for everybody and they just are currently not good.
- [37:57]
A
Don't want to remind everybody of this because where the Detroit Lions are right now. Foxy, what was your guys record? First year mcdc started out owing Tech and then year two started out one and six and that's when everything changed. And remember the mcdc cried whenever they got a win. Everybody's like, what a loser this guy. And all he kept saying was like, I've seen it every day, man. They're getting better. The worker and they haven't been, you know, paid off for the work that they put in. I wonder if Aaron Glenn feels the same way. Like, hey, it's not good right now, but we got to build here, we got to build a culture and will they have enough patience? You talk about whenever a New York team's good, it's good. But when you're bad in New York too, it's very much like very bad.
- [38:32]
D
There's no question that the pressure is cooked so much higher when you're in that New York market. And I think it also is very tough when you see a brand new head coach like Liam Cohen down in Jacksonville. Big win over the Kansas City Chiefs Monday night. He's got that team four and one. And you're sitting there as a New York fan and you're like, okay, I'm believing in you guys. I'm trusting the process. I'm understanding it takes time. We have to fully turn this culture around. But then you flip on your TV Monday night and you're like, wait, wait, they. They're in a very similar situation and they turned it around so fast. So it's tough. I completely get it. I I don't disagree on the Detroit point and the Dan Campbell point. Sometimes you have to weed out a lot of issues and turn it around. But it's tough when you look across at the neighbor and you see the grass growing real nice and green.
- [39:17]
A
Well, the good news for him is the Giants don't seemingly have that going on this year, and they haven't for a while. On that note, those two teams are in a conversation a little bit different. Bengals have been in this conversation. The Ravens have slipped into that conversation as maybe not this year, teams everybody else seemingly in it. Connor has a question for you, J.J.
- [39:33]
B
Yeah, J.J. it feels like this year the teams that we thought were going to be really good again, like the Ravens, a few others, the Bengals, the injuries are kind of there. The Texans, though, would fall under that as someone you kind of thought was going to run away with it. But there's these teams kind of coming out of nowhere. I'm not going to throw the Patriots in just yet, but the Colts, you know, the Jags being formed.
- [39:54]
D
It's all right to feel good about yourself.
- [39:55]
B
I feel good about it.
- [39:56]
A
I feel.
- [39:56]
B
Let's not go there yet, though, J. So stay focused here. How about the league? Are you pumped about the parody? I feel like we all are very excited about seeing some new teams toward the top of their divisions, at least early on. Do you think this is going to continue for the rest of the season?
- [40:13]
D
I'm pumped about the parody. I love. I think this is the best thing that the NFL has going about. It is the way that it's all designed with the draft, with free agency, with the waiver wire, with the way they set up the schedule. It's so much fun tuning in every week knowing that you don't know exactly what's going to happen and anybody can win any game. The Pats versus the Bills. Great game and really enjoyed watching that. So it has been enjoyable. I do think that the cream eventually rises to the top over time and people figure it out and the best talent, along with the best coaching will get to the top.
- [40:48]
F
But.
- [40:48]
D
But it's fun. It's a whole lot of fun. I mean, you have the Browns beating the Packers. That's probably the biggest one we've seen so far this year in terms of surprises. So good about your Pats, man. That was, that was a. That was a huge win for the Pats. And Drake May does seem like he's got that factor where he can step up in those situations and lead his team and you put the right team around him and Mike Brabel gets them operating on all cylinders and cleaning up some of the execution and the penalties and things like. Like they really do have a solid setup.
- [41:21]
B
I mean, not to mention too, we're kind of approaching that territory where some of those good teams that are actually poopy might start fire sailing. And I don't want to go there, but we got kind of three games we should win going forward for New England. So an A.J. brown, maybe a Derrick Henry perhaps they might be available. And also, little side note, I saw this on X right before the Pats were all blue this week. Next week they are all white. I believe that is a shot at the Buffalo Beals.
- [41:48]
A
I don't know if it's a shot or if it's just took your chain. I like that our jerseys now. I like the break did not take him off.
- [41:57]
D
I didn't want to get ahead of himself, said don't get ahead of ourselves. And I was screaming into the microphone.
- [42:01]
I
Right now, that was your fault, brother.
- [42:03]
A
You're the one that was like, you.
- [42:05]
H
Should feel good about your team Now I do.
- [42:07]
A
He does feel good. In earlier today whenever he was laying out the A.J. brown might be who's he got history with, who was mad whenever he got trailed out of Tennessee. Oh, frable. Oh. Who else might be on a team that's not that great this year, but they got paid a lot of money.
- [42:21]
D
Who are you sending to the Eagles? Who are you sending to The Eagles for A.J.
- [42:25]
B
Brown? Who are we sending to the Eagles for A.J.
- [42:27]
E
Brown, well, hold on.
- [42:29]
B
Are you gonna. Okay, we can take his whole entire contract, so let's get that off the books and then I don't know, we could probably send them like a Keon White pass rusher rookie on a young contract. And then when you think about the Ravens with Derrick Henry, if they're just kind of punting on it, then we can send him Ramandre Stevenson right back. Hey, you still get a good running back, but clearly you're not going to go the playoffs this year. Why don't we just take Derek Henry off your hands? A.J. bryant, you want to catch passes that aren't, you know, thrown up. You don't have to play defense on DeVontae Smith anymore, brother. Drake May will actually throw you the football. Even though stats would say that they are still throwing him the football this year, he's just not catching it.
- [43:03]
A
Well, Hembo would say that the targets to A.J. brown are the same as they were last year. And A.J. brown might say, I'm not doing this again. And allegedly there was a conversation. AJ Brown, Jalen Hurts and Saquon Bar Barkley. A long one. Jimmy Kempsky covers the Eagles. I'm told Jalen hurts A.J. brown and Saquon Barkley had a long, positive conversation. Lasts a couple hours maybe. They do this every week, though.
- [43:24]
D
Yeah, I hope they have conversations.
- [43:26]
A
What the hell?
- [43:27]
D
Yeah, they're on the same team, dude. What?
- [43:30]
A
Yeah, but I think the implication was, hey, there's a lot of drama. See me? They're four in one football team. They're Philadelphia Eagles. Who told Jimmy Kempsky that he's plugged in?
- [43:38]
C
That he's plugged in.
- [43:39]
D
There's three people in the conversation who told him.
- [43:42]
A
So Jimmy Kimski has somebody in the hallway looking for the door to open. And then there's only three of them. And then immediately, yeah, that was an.
- [43:53]
D
Hour long or that was multiple hours long. And it was positive. It was very positive.
- [43:57]
A
I could tell that you're on wall person laughing a joke in there. Are they watching a movie? It's been a long time. And then sees him leave. They're laughing and smiling. Maryland seem positive. Jim let it fly.
- [44:11]
B
Think they're watching a movie.
- [44:12]
A
I do wonder, you know how they balance this year. Always drama in Philadelphia. For whatever reason, I think it's because it's Philadelphia Eagles coach Sirianni. There's some stat that we just read and found he averages the most points for the first 50 games as a head coach in NFL history. It's like him, Sean Payton, Mike Martz, MC DC and McCarthy. Yeah, they all average like 26.7 points a game. Game. And all we in the media and everybody has done is this offense stinks, man.
- [44:38]
C
What's this guy do?
- [44:39]
A
This guy's got no idea. The reigning super bowl champs are 4 and 1 right now. Got the best record in all ball. And all anybody wants them to do is hopefully fall apart. That's classic. Philadelphia Eagles, it feels like, right? And they're strong enough to survive. We hope they certainly will. JJ what game do you have this weekend?
- [44:54]
D
This weekend I have the Browns at the Steelers AFC north battle calling a.
- [44:58]
A
Lot of your brother's games. A lot of.
- [45:02]
D
It turns out that the second best AFC game on CBS every week generally does tend to involve Pittsburgh Steelers while they're sitting at 3 and 1. Yes, there have been quite a few. It's his birthday Saturday, so I'm looking forward to seeing him on his birthday.
- [45:14]
A
Oh, birthday game for T.J. watt. Got to take that into account for sure. Especially with big bro up in the booth. Every time you're up there, he does well.
- [45:26]
D
I mean, last game he had, the Patriots game, he had two. Two sacks.
- [45:33]
A
So, hey, let's make sure we're non biased.
- [45:35]
D
First game wasn't great.
- [45:36]
A
Don't be getting too excited, okay? Up there whenever T.J. i'm excited, dude.
- [45:39]
B
I like.
- [45:39]
D
I mean, we got miles Garrett and T.J. watt in the same game. It's going to be great. Just incredible pass rush in this game. And the Browns rookies are crushing it. Browns, Browns, rookie draft, like they're. They're not getting enough credit. I mean, they're getting a lot of credit, but this rookie draft class, they're killing it.
- [45:55]
A
You putting respect on the pass rushers, I think is a good thing from the booth. Obviously it's one of the most important positions in all the ball, especially because it can wreck a game. But I'll tell you what, there's some other things wrecking some games. Let's head over to Hammer. Don, is this still football Tone?
- [46:08]
B
Yeah.
- [46:08]
A
Or.
- [46:09]
C
Sorry.
- [46:09]
F
Whoa.
- [46:11]
A
Oh, no. Whoa. That's Billy Bones.
- [46:15]
D
I mean, Pat threw you a no look toss. He literally no look, look, tossed you a lead and then you do that.
- [46:23]
B
He didn't mean it, Derek.
- [46:25]
A
Oh, oh, no.
- [46:27]
E
Listen, that's.
- [46:28]
A
Listen, A.J.
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C
Stop.
- [46:30]
B
That's a mistake. I was. I'm asking about T.J. and I'm asking about Miles because you had just brought them up and you. I know you were interested in those two just horrendous roughing the passer calls this weekend. One for the Saints and then one on the Bucks. Like, what. What. What is going on?
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F
J.
- [46:48]
A
Right there.
- [46:49]
D
This is what's going on. And today, Wednesday is usually around, maybe Thursday is around when we find out about the fines.
- [46:57]
C
Wow.
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D
And if either of these two were fined, we need to have a very serious, loud public conversation. But this is just the second one. Like, the only thing I can see about that Buccaneers 1 is leading into it. He did kind of dip his head. Head a little bit, which I can see the ref when you leave with the crown of your helmet, even though he ended up pulling off. I can kind of see that. I mean, it's still very soft, in my opinion. But that first one in the Saints, man, it's like he's standing up straight, he's hitting them basically body to body. He rolls off, he pulls his hands away. Like, I. I don't know what you want a defensive guy to do. You literally can't not take the guy to the ground any more than that. And if you want to say, well, his helmet, helmet. His face mask grays the back of his helmet. It's like, okay, so you don't want to see him high, you don't want to see him low. You want. You. It would have been 10 times more hurtful if he just spears them in the back here. This is about the best possible way you can lay a quarterback down. And we're still throwing flags on it. I mean, somebody's got to stand up for the defensive guys here. This is just. And it's. That's a 15 yard penalty that now moves them 15 yards forward on Mag. First down down, all that type of takes the sack away from this guy. Like, just give me break. I'm sick of it.
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J.J. watt. JJ. What? JJ what? JJ what? Thanks for doing that change.
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Hey, baby J. I hate it better than you.
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Because they've been trying to change that rule to make it like still football. But also, let's not take out. Quarterbacks are the most important position we had. How many different quarterbacks play that one year? 90 or 60 or something. Something like that. I forget what it was.
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C
Yeah. High six.
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Yeah, I think it was like 68.
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So they've been trying to adapt the rules. I think Ben Roethlisberger or Carson Palmer, I mean, whenever he was with the Bengals, there was like a crawling thing that happened to him. Against Pittsburgh Steelers, Change rule. Tom Brady had something happen. Change rule. Then there was a throwing, a slinging type rule that was there. Full body control, but don't put your body weight. You can't go through the ground. There's a strike zone. You're not allowed to hit. You're not allowed here. So there's been a lot of rules to try to create the perfect way to tackle the most valuable piece on a football field in the quarterback position. And inevitably it's always just a judgment call by the refs that are on the field. Like, you saw that guy staring down the. He literally just kind of gives him like a chest bump to his back, though. Yeah. Like, that's literally running full speed.
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D
And like, I Wanted to. That hadn't hurt was throwing the flag. I wanted to let the. Give the ref the benefit of the doubt and say, oh, he just saw it immediately and through it. But like, take time. Why is the flag coming out so fast? Take a second. See what happened and then be like, oh, he actually didn't do anything bad. Like, this is ridiculous. Like, that flag is on the ground as they're still just hitting the ground. Take a second.
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See that?
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He rolled off. It's. It's like performing acrobatics. Now, I believe that there are a lot of roughing. The passers that are legit. High, low, whatever. We'll play by your rules. But when we're trying to play by your rules and we're trying to do what you want us to do, give us a break, for Christ's sake. I mean, just please give us a break. Like, we're doing our best. You pull off and you pull your hands away like crazy. Buddy, I'm clearly not trying to do anything bad here. I don't want a $50,000 fine and a 15 yard penalty. You know how badly I want this sack. It's so hard to get. I want it so badly. Don't take it away from me. And then the other thing. Okay, then there's this. So if you're going to get a pel anyway, rock him.
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Just like go back there and lay him out.
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D
Because they're gonna get one anyway.
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Yeah, if they're gonna throw the flag on a belly chest bump to a back, you might as well just go ahead and lean that thing forward. Because I think what they saw was the helmets were at the same height, maybe from where they're at. So they just assumed that this had to be contact to the helmet. Instead, it's literally just a slap to the back. And it kind of maybe the nice. If he would have grabbed him and put him down, which you'll hear some defensive people get on T. What do you want us to do? Pick them up and put them down, place them. You want us to tuck them in whenever they're down there? Like, what do you expect from us? Such a pivotal play. And you talk about legacies and legends and everything like that. Losing sacks, getting fined. Clay Matthews lost a bunch of sacks and got fined a bunch. James Harrison, I think, was like the picture of the new version of tackling football. I think he got over a million dollars. It's not funny for James Harrison, obviously. I am not saying that, but in this transition era of trying to figure out what the Rules are there are some people that pay the price, and obviously we don't have it right yet at jh is what you're saying. What's the rule? Strike zone.
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D
I think we should. I think we got to start publishing ref stacks. I know they're out there somewhere, the stats, because we used to get them every week in our meetings, which is cool, but maybe we. Maybe we just got to start, like. I mean, little. A little accountability going both ways there, you know?
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That's all we're looking for. Yep. You're the man, jj. What's the hat?
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You guys.
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D
You guys are the man.
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F
Minnesota North Stars.
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D
I just like the hat, Mike. Madonna.
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C
It is getting flashbacks. And Medano.
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Okay. I like what you're doing. I really like what you're doing. Did you watch the NHL opening night last night? See the Pittsburgh Penguins.
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D
I didn't catch it, but I heard you talking about it. Shout out. Ryan Smith. Mammoth crushed their rebranding. Phenomenal. Good for the.
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A
A lot of good logos, a lot of good brands. He's. He's pretty good at pickleball, too. You guys playing that super duper secret game?
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C
Oh, yeah, that's right.
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A
Yeah. That's really cool. You get invited to those things. Must be nice to be jj. Wow. And that's why. Hashtag Ash J.
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C
Exactly.
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You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, how are the teams? Burnley and Espanol. We winning still?
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D
We had a rough weekend. We had a rough weekend.
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Oh, yeah. Minnesota North Star's hat on. Told us that story. Shouldn't even ask. Jay AK. All right, Aou, let's do your big takeaways. Coming out of week five, these are three things that you think deserve to be chatted about a little bit more. What's the first one that you think should be chatted about? Aou?
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Made for the moment.
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Wow.
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A
That's clever. Drake May obviously special. We saw him on Sunday Night Football against Buffalo Bills. What did you see? Aq. Yeah.
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B
He's unbelievable. Drake May is the future of this league. And let's take a look at these. I picked four plays from this game. All of them them are throws that he makes on the run. This first one. Play action. Roll out to the right. Nothing there.
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Nothing there.
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Nothing there.
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Boom.
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Perfect strike where only his guy can catch it. Unbelievable. They say incomplete. That was complete. Let's watch this one again. Watch the guy over the center. Look at that coffee house. Feels the pressure roll right. Yep. There it is again. Unbelievable throw. The accuracy on the run that he had showed is unbelievable. Let's watch this one. Here we go again. Snap the ball. He's going to roll to the right. Here it is. Feels the pressure off the left, roll to the right. I mean you guys talked about this. This is as good a ball as you are ever going to see.
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A
So now just quick question. They're all going to force him left, right? This is, this is the thing.
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E
Do or try to. That's the same thing with Jaden Daniels. That's a big thing. Like you. If he goes right, rather just picking it up with his legs or making throw. I mean that's most right handed quarterbacks, you know, some of them can do the damage going left as well. But yeah, that's.
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What was it Baker they were talking about? Baker was always running to his right, running to his right. So they have guys like basically bring pressure and then loop around, hand up because they thought they were going to be able to block it. This is just part of trying to get a book on somebody. I think what Drake has proven, what you were showing here is Roland to his right. He might be the best quarterback in.
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Football and look how strong he is here. Daquan Jones, £320 right on him, stiff arm. Enough wherewithal to find Diggs again. I mean, he's unbelievable.
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A
What's the second Akish takeaway from week five?
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Brother Mayfield Mayhem.
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A
Whoa. Wow.
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B
And it's really funny that you just talked about Baker Mayfield only being able to go to his right. Let's watch this first play.
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A
Okay. First, this was his rookie year.
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B
I was talking play action. Roll to the left. Look at this ball. That is the hardest thing to do as a right handed quarterback. Roll to your left, throw back across your body.
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Perfect ball.
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B
Let's look at the next play. Here we go again. Baker Mayfield.
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I
Fine.
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B
Igbuka in the hole. This ball, I mean this is as good of a quarterback game as you're ever gonna see. He played out of his mind.
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C
Third one.
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Look at this little skinny seam route. Igbuka again, we got him later on in the show. Look at this. Drops it in a bucket. And I love the view from behind. And then. Okay, cool. We hit some out routes, we hit this route, we hit the play action. Let's send this thing 65 yards in the air again to the rookie pheno Mecca Buka.
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He'll be joining us here in about 35 minutes or so. Cannot wait to catch up with him. What a special start to his NFL career he has had down there in Tampa. I said this week, Baker Mayfield MVP comes. Let alone. Him still chirping with fans. I like everything about what he's doing down there. And what's the third thing that needs to be chatted about?
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B
Easy as erases the edge.
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C
Easy.
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B
Ezra Ezra Cleveland comes down from Minnesota a couple years ago, solidifies this Jaguars offensive line. Let's talk about that. So right there when he is on the ground, if we can go back real quick. Trevor Lawrence when he's on the ground. They are trying to keep him contained on the pocket. He cannot escape through the B gap as long as he holds the edge. Ezra Cleveland.
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E
Boom.
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B
Puts his ass on the ground, opens it up. Trevor Lawrence through the B gap. Winner, winner, chicken dinner.
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He races the edge. That's easy as the Jackson Jaguars have a little little heat to them this year. Big time.
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B
Don't.
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They're a real team. They're in the in the trenches top five. They're in everything. DB Good, bad, D. I mean, there's real things brewing down there in Duvall and the NFL is obviously incredibly fantastic. We're lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. We also tried to cover news that we feel is good for people to learn potentially get Provide a little bit More context. On Monday we learned of a video that was made publicly available by Karen Lacy's lawyer and it what we thought showed more context to the accident that inevitably led to the tragic loss of two lives with Herman hall who dies in a car accident and then Kyron Lacy who later ends up killing himself because of the fallout of everything in which he was accused. We thought we had more context. Now more video has been made publicly available and it shows even more context where Kyron Lacy is driving a on the wrong side of the road and could have very easily made the case that he caused the car to swerve and caused the tragic accident. We apologize for adding any more heat and we'll continue to stay on top of the news breakings in this story because obviously it's tragically sad and involves an athlete's legacy. We'll see you in the next hour. This is Joe Button.
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I can't believe play as Russ, I'll.
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B
Play as someone else.
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My name's Chad and last name Lieutenant.
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Terms apply.
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New episodes Tuesdays.
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Football is magical.
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A
We're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it. But it's not just football happening around our glorious sports world. Hockey's taking place. It dropped puck last night. Three star studded games to kick off an NHL season that always starts much earlier than we expect. But once it does, there's an opportunity each and every night that there's a game to turn on. Something magical, something electrifying, something that will dazzle you and then also entertain you. And then there's a chance a UFC fighter's brother is going to settle a score whenever somebody is checked a little bit too hard on the ice on opinion opening night, pow. Right in the kisser is a hockey thing that happens and I think it's a reason why a lot of people potentially like the sport. It's old school, it has a lot of tradition and if you hit my guy, you are going to get punched in the face and the refs aren't going to stop it. The refs are actually going to tell everybody, get out of the way. Let the boys figure this out. Okay? Then they'll stick, tap, they'll chirp. And then what you'll see in between the whistles is a Sport that is so damn hypnotizing with how fast it is and how much talent there is. Hockey's on the rise and it should be. The NHL season has started last night. There's two more games this evening in the MLB play. MLB playoffs.
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C
Now you could say the MLB playoffs. I think, I think, I think you can let that one slide.
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A
These baseball people telling me, well them.
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C
You can say the MLB playoffs.
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A
I didn't say that.
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C
I did.
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A
Ty did.
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All star.
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C
It's a good point. Thank you.
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Ladies and gentlemen, from the talk to the table at Boss Connor and all star Ty schmidt.
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C
Oh yeah.
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A
Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler, 12 year NFL vet and Super bowl champion AJ Hawk is here in Thai baseball. Last night was. What's that?
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E
Who's that?
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A
What's that? Oh my gosh, I'm so sorry that happened.
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B
Or just mixing up all the initials.
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A
Should have called you T.J. that's 100 on me. AQ Shipley, 12 year Super bowl champion player. Coach, I apologize. Baseball last night though was the topic of discussion. Hockey had some moments obviously opening night, the Pittsburgh Penguins, undefeated, might go perfect this year. New coach Dan Muse. Bald head. He literally came in after the game and said, all right, turn on the music and let's get on the road. See you guys next game. That's a beautiful thing. We like that as a veteran team. But the Yankees game last night stole the show. And I think even if this game was up against NFL games, I think people would still be finding themselves checking back in. The electricity that oozed from this particular night could potentially carry us all the way through October and be baseball. It was everything that was good with baseball. Massive balls, stars showing up in an environment that was captivating no matter where you're watching or how tired you were. Because this was a late one tie. Baseball delivered last night in a big way. So did your Yankees.
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C
Yeah, without a doubt. And I think like the playoffs as a whole kind of needed something like this because while all the series have been pretty solid so far in the the DS round here, there really hasn't been like a signature moment moment. You know, the, the Phillies and Dodgers series has kind has been. It's been very cagey, just kind of not what you'd expect from those two teams. You'd expect more homers and then this one, like I said, like the Yankees have been utterly dominated by the Blue Jays in the first two games. Yeah, utterly dominated if you will. And just as a Yankees fan, as you know, a judge disciple, it just for him to have that moment because he has been playing so well, but he has, he hasn't been, you know, getting very many extra base hits or home runs like that. That was a moment that, you know, at the end of his career, like I would imagine, you know, who knows what happens over the next several years that he plays. That will be one of the top three highlights that people go back to regardless of what happens throughout the rest of these playoffs.
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The brink of elimination. The judge. All rise. He went crazy. Now they play again tonight. Another elimination game. Are the Yankees going to come back and win this thing? Three, two. And will this end up on somebody's future Mount Rushmore chokes for this Toronto team. Now that episode is out. Now new Rushmore on X is available with Bob Costas, Al Michaels, Ari Emanuel and Ben Persky talking about sports. Biggest chokes throughout the history of sports. And what it actually is is Bob Costas and Al Michaels telling stories about sports history in a fantastic way. Marvelous storytelling in a recap of what sports have been, what sports are and stories that we need to remember. It's a fantastic episode. About 40 minutes or so. I think you can lock in clips available across all platforms. The entire episode available at Rushmore on X. It is. That's a good show idea.
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B
Oh, yeah. Fantastic.
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A
Ari Emanuel. Ben Persky created it. Ari Emanuel. Yes, that one. Ari Gold from Entourage, now chairman of TKO and one of the greatest agents, the greatest agent of all time, if you ask him. And I think a lot of people would stay around and embarrass Ben Persky, record label founder, I believe he friend of Ari, also mentee of Ari in this great conversations. They took the Mount Rushmore idea that has obviously been done before and just brought in the goats of the sports to kind of talk about it. We're lucky that we're a part of it. And the boys busted their ass editing it and putting it together. We're very proud of it. And maybe this Toronto team could join that. Maybe if there's a next episode for this. If the Yankees were able to come back. I think the Yankees are already on on one of these particular chokes situations.
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F
Yeah.
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A
And it wasn't on the right side of history.
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C
No, it wasn't.
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It was actually for the Red Sox who no longer around. But even Red Sox fans enjoyed what they saw from the Yankees last night. Joining us now is a football guy who sent a text and said, I'm actually watching baseball.
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B
This Yankees gave shoot.
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C
Awesome.
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College football national champion, super bowl champion, Ryder cup winner, ladies and Gentlemen. AJ Hawk Hawker. Brother, you said, man, I'm even watching the baseball here. And that wouldn't normally happen. Playoff baseball has been incredible. Last night was spectacular.
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D
Yeah.
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H
That shot that you guys just showed a little bit ago behind the pitcher when Judgy hit that homer, like just 8K. Beautiful. You can see the reaction of the pitcher when the ball hits the foul play. Like this thing is, look at the fans behind home plate. Like this was awesome to see. Getting to see this live and then watching Jazz Chisholm smoke that homer and flip his bat was just, that's all I need. I was like, the Yankees have to win this game. We know that.
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Yeah. Take a one run lead there in the bottom of the fifth. Still a lot of baseball left after these. Oh yeah, but these games have been spurts of big innings, right? Hasn't that kind of been the story of the playoffs? There's been like a third inning that's gone crazy, a fifth inning that's gone crazy. This one fourth obviously goes big for the Yankees. That's kind of been the tale of this year's playoffs thus far.
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C
Yeah, pretty much. It's, it's like whenever teams have gotten traffic on the base pass, usually that's the, like you have to score in those situations because the pitching has been. Been pretty damn dominant throughout all of the playoffs in both leagues. So yeah, these couple innings where. And the, the thing that like the Blue Jays, it all started, they gave the Yankees an extra out. There was a pop, there was a pop up to third base that inning. Judge hit the homer. Guy drops it, he. So they, they have a runner on first base. Then their leadoff hitter walks and Judge hits the three run homer. So they give him four outs and like that's what good teams do. They make you pay.
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Yeah. Baseball is great. Also great. Jerry Jones. We haven't really got a chance to chat about this yet, but we have a little bit more information from Jerry Jones camp on what happened this past weekend at MetLife Stadium. Jerry Jones was caught doing Brian Tepper move, a David Tepper move of, you know, in the weight box stadium, waving down. Find somebody you, buddy, I've been listening to you all day. I'm done with that. We went ahead and did that. Jerry Jones came out and after guys getting fined $250,000 from the NFL for this and said that it was unfortunate gesture and he actually thought it was a thumbs up, I believe. Yeah, thumbs up maybe thumbs up maybe number one. Maybe a thumbs up. And that middle finger just, just it controls Itself. Sometimes. Sometimes you gotta go ahead and put that thing down like this right here. Anytime we get a chance to hear Jerry talk, we'll certainly do that. Go ahead. I'm laying up there in the bed. I said, the good news is that.
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B
They say, you're gonna live. And so don't make me have to.
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A
Come up here and visit with my rubber glove and get you out of that bed. Now.
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B
They took that out, and I thought.
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It was the best scene in the whole thing. So that's from the Landman scene where we know that he won an award. He should win an award for how he acted in there with Billy Bob and somebody else and basically tells a story about, you know, doing business with his family and what they have here and how special it is. And to be honest, almost tear to your eye listening to Jerry do this. And he did it all in one take, obviously. But even in that particular take, that middle finger of his just couldn't. He wanted to put on a rubber glove. That thing starts dancing out there, you know, and we've heard other older folks say that certain words or things just. I just. For some reason, my mouth can't stop saying it. Jerry basically came out and said, my finger just. Even when I want to do a thumbs up, my middle finger just. It's an outlaw. I don't know what to tell you. So we appreciate to get that $250,000 fine. Where's this money go? We don't know. How's it. Who knows? But we know that the NFL said Jared can't do that anymore, which we respect.
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I would appeal. I would appeal if I'm Jerry. I don't care how many billions he has. You're finding me 250k for a blurry shot of me possibly flicking some dude off from the other team.
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Like, come on, that's something you used to do all the time on the.
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H
Once playful and fun. It was never out of, like, anger or anything.
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Well, his was, too. You see why he's porn. And he meant to thumbs up if you listen to him. Or maybe a number one. But instead, that middle finger can't help itself. Now, you want to talk about one finger going somewhere, you go ahead and take that thing right to the sky. Especially whenever you're talking about a man that's about to join us in just a matter of moments. Ladies and gentlemen, down there in Perth, Australia, on Saturday, there's going to be an aspiration speeding of an Australian man named Brunson Reed. And it's going to be Done by a man who's a six time world champion. Let me make sure I get these stats right because they are prolific. AJ, did you hear that? Six time world champion. Exactly. One of those was for 1,316 days.
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E
My God.
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A
This man is a career Grand Slam champion. He's a 2015 Royal Rumble winner. And oh yeah, in 2006, he was first team All ACC.
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B
No big deal.
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A
Ladies and gentlemen, our tribal chief, the head of the table, Roman Reigns.
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G
What a transition, huh? What a segue. From the middle finger to the pointer finger. Love it.
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A
Well, Jerry did it, you know, and it was. It wasn't supposed to go that way, but live in real time. I thought to myself, if there's only one finger that needs to fly, it's one to the sky. And it's certainly acknowledging our tribal chief. It's great to have you back in the world, brother. How is it I see TC1? Okay? I like the shirts. I'm looking to buy those immediately. We love everything about it. And now you're heading to Australia to do a little ass beating. How's the body feel? How do you feel? Leading up just a few days before the big match with Brunson Reed, who. He's broken both of his own ankles jumping off the top of things. Okay, he's looking smash. You, dude. How do you feel? Roman Goat heading to Australia just a few days.
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G
I feel like crap. My body does not feel good. I was down there not too long ago. The flight, you know, back and forth has not been nice. I've been jet lagged for a feeling like four weeks in a row now. So why not just go down there and. And try to kill myself? So it is what it is, you know, we're gonna go just head against the wall, Goldberg style, you know, just reckless, abandoned. And yeah, you can't do much worse than, than I feel now. So let's just go mess it up physically.
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A
Okay, so you're not at your best. I don't love that. Okay. Not your best.
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G
I wouldn't say that. I don't. Yeah, this is like you. I'm a live performer. I can do it at any given moment. It doesn't matter. You know what I'm saying? I'm always at 100.
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A
Yeah, you're right.
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G
We're always at the 10 is. You know what I'm saying? We live out at 12, so the 10 will always be easy.
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A
Yeah. Because it doesn't really matter how you feel whenever you're in there. You're the, you're the goat, obviously. So get a half.
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G
Well, yeah, you go through the curtain, you know what that, I mean, you could, you could be selling a broken leg back there, but as soon as the music hits, as soon as you go through that black curtain, it's. It's like a, you know, know. It's like a shot in the arm.
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A
How cool does it feel whenever you do this? And just the entire place, every city, every single city goes and does the same exact thing that I don't want to say power, but that is certainly power that's right there. That has to feel pretty incredible.
- [71:08]
G
As long as they do it with me. Yeah, as long as they do it with me. We're good to go.
- [71:12]
A
What if it's that other thing? What if it's that Jerry Jones, which could be down in Australia here with the local guy, you know, Bronson Reed, Australian guy. Now I know you just talked about being down there. I think you were shooting Street Fighter. I believe you're in that movie. You're in Australia. 16 hour flight. Obviously it's a long way to the opposite side of the world. How do you feel? How are you going to handle that? How are you going to handle, you know, the, the long travel, the. What's it called whenever your body clock's completely off? Jet lag? How are you going to handle that? Do you have ideas? I assume a man of your stature, of your legacy, I assume we got IVs in a plane. I assume we got a full meal plan. I assume we got the workout happening. How are you addressing that? When is your travel and what is kind of the next steps for you as we lead into that?
- [71:57]
G
Well, I'll fly out tonight. Travel for this will be much, much kinder than it was for the movie. But, you know, we're working on that. You know, you got to, you got to pay your dues. You got to, you got to build your equity. And brother, brother was on the commercial flight, just living life, you know, amongst the people. It was great. But no, this is much, much better. G6. What? G650. On the way out there, one stop for gas and then we're right to Perth and then we hit the ground running. Like I said, you know, there's no real way to combat this jet lagged, tired, rundown feeling. All you can do is just try to, you know, keep your immune system as high as possible. Like you said, get a banana bag in if you can, Vitamin C it up and don't bitch about it. Let's just keep moving forward and Just try to hit the ground running, try to keep some momentum, you know, as I get there. I want to say Friday in the late morning, probably around this time Friday. So we'll kind of time travel in the next 24 to 30 hours and then just hit the ground and hope for the best.
- [73:03]
A
I appreciate the fact that you're a humble travel chief and you will fly commercial, but for this one, I, obviously, we need you locked in, in that G650. Thank you for making a business decision. This isn't because you're high maintenance at all. No, this is not because you want to fly private. You wish you could fly commercial, but this is locked in. We got business obviously to handle. We need to.
- [73:21]
G
I did not say that.
- [73:22]
D
I did not.
- [73:25]
G
We don't ever want to fly. It is what it is, you know, and, and no, no, ain't nothing about being bougie or high maintenance as business is business, you know what I'm saying? I have to, I set the tone and the standard for the next guy up. So if I start slumming it, then the next guy's going to slumber. We're progressing here, man. Like I said, everybody gets escalated, everybody gets lifted when the tribal chiefs are out.
- [73:49]
A
Rising tides lift all boats. Let's talk about Jay. USO seems like there's been a little bit of, I don't say a baton passing. Obviously the, that hasn't happened. Obviously that's a big deal talking about that. But it feels like he has his eyes on a little bit more. Feels like you also see a little something in him. How is that kind of working out and how is it to see the USO's back and you with them? It feels like glory days almost. Right?
- [74:13]
G
Well, I mean, I, I don't know about all that and I don't know about, you know, handing down the, the mantle. I, I, I don't, I don't know if anybody can actually handle that responsibility, that obligation, but agreed, much of it. Now, Jay, I, I, look, I, I saw this from the beginning. Nobody, you know what I mean? Like, just like Sammy, I, I seen, you know, this, this beautiful opportunity within Jay a long time ago, and we're just now kind of seeing that, that pot of gold at the, the end of the rainbow with him. But there's so much more left to do with him. There's so many, you know, more accolades and more opportunities for him to capitalize on it. And that's what I'm saying is like, like he got there. That's one of the Hard parts. But the hardest part is staying there. The hardest part is staying relevant and staying at the tip top of the mountain, to be able to breathe at that altitude and to do it like I did for. What'd you say, 13, 16, you know what I'm saying? So I wish he would listen to me a lot better. I wish his brother would just showed up and listen to me as well.
- [75:23]
C
It was.
- [75:24]
A
Would.
- [75:24]
G
It would make life a lot easier because at the end of the day, I got the proof of concept. I'm the one who's mapped this thing out. I'm the one who needs to. That understands how to get back to, you know, the new. You know, the new land. I'm the only one that can cross the ocean and come back. So I'm the only one that understands how to navigate these waters. And I just wish they would listen to me.
- [75:44]
A
Yeah. And, you know, sometimes leadership isn't respected or appreciated in the moments that they hate it. But Jimmy's listening, Jimmy's hearing. And whenever the moment comes to the moment, Jimmy will do the right thing, Right?
- [75:56]
B
Yeah.
- [75:57]
A
Same with Jay. Same with Jay. They'll listen to you. You're a tribal chief.
- [76:01]
G
The right thing, objective, right. You overhear the right thing. And the right thing in wwe, that's. I don't even. And that's like. I don't even know if that makes sense, you know, like, true.
- [76:12]
A
That's crazy.
- [76:13]
G
That's like trying to be a good guy in. In the shark tank.
- [76:15]
A
Try.
- [76:16]
G
You know what I mean? Try to be. To be the good guy in the ocean. You want to be Rose or Jack. You want to live or not? You know what I mean?
- [76:23]
A
Put me on the door. Yeah, yeah. I want to be. And there was enough room. There's enough room.
- [76:27]
G
It's. There's not enough. That's the beautiful thing about. There's not enough room in wwe. There's not enough real estate. You have to get what is yours. And that's what I'm trying to teach these guys. That's why I'm trying to, like, learn them boys, is you have to take it now because every. This ain't Hollywood. There's no number one like Cody can try to put it there, I can try to put it there. But everybody's trying to take these spots. Everybody's trying to come up. Nobody cares if you're doing good today. That's how the WWE is. It's not like Hollywood where they put a number on us and everybody serves the top spot. Everybody's here to make one and two look really good. They don't care if I look good. They want to make. They're trying to. They want the good life here. They want to be in the promised land. It's not the titles, it's, it's. It's the space that I'm speaking of.
- [77:14]
A
Yeah, the G650 down to Perth. Yeah, yeah, I understand. Yeah, we understand what you're speaking of. And obviously that is why the WWE has been great for so long because there's so much competition within the company to get these prime spots. And this man held it down through the hardest time in the history of the business when there was no fans, took it to new heights. Billions and billions and billions in dollars in revenue. But there was one person that was next to you then that seemingly hasn't been for some time now, and he's got a huge brain, this man. Go ahead, con man.
- [77:44]
B
Yeah, TC1 I acknowledge, as always, and you know, you mentioned real estate. There's not enough real estate, brother, because it's all yours. But when you're thinking about what this weekend is going to hold, have you thought about the wise man at all? Is there any sort of feelings about what he might try and do during your match?
- [78:04]
G
I would say anything that I need to be worried about, he's doing right now. When we get out there physically in that capacity, never worried about the old man. You know what I mean? It is what it is. I choked him out last time where I, you know, just him getting in the bubble, he. He already understands that. But any type of, you know, layered plan, any. Any type of foil that he's trying to plan at this point, I think it's. It's being game planned, you know, in the forefront. So just got to be ready for everything. He, I mean, he taught me so much. I sat under his learning tree. I caught shade for a long time. So. So anything that he's teaching all these other guys, he's already, you know what I mean? Just, you know, and he's long winded, so he'll keep on telling his stories, you know what I mean? And he'll come back to him. So I've, like a sponge, absorbed so much from the former wise man that I think he's gone dumb now. I don't think he.
- [79:00]
A
Oh, you took it all.
- [79:02]
D
I think. Yeah, yeah.
- [79:03]
G
It's become one of those situations, you know, I become the master.
- [79:09]
A
Oh, I like to hear that, because that happens in a lot.
- [79:12]
G
Hey, and ask, too. You can ask. Ask the twins when we Were on these, you know, years ago on. On these flights doing, you know, same thing to Saudi. I'd sit there and I'd listen to him. I'd sit there and I'd take counsel. I'd sit there and hear his stories. And sometimes, yeah, he'd forget he told me a story and he'd tell me again, but I'd listen to it again just to see, you know what I mean, if the, you know, know the. The mantra, the.
- [79:35]
D
The. The.
- [79:36]
G
The moral, the story was the same or if there's another little piece of information. He's a very. He's a very wise soul. So. So you got to be smart when you're. When you're around someone like that because you can learn so much.
- [79:50]
A
Yeah. No detail unnoticed from our tribal chief. You want to tell me a story three, four times? I'll certainly be listening to new details so that I can get better. And then. And also all that information and knowledge, I'm going to take from you, and you're going to start making bad decisions. Wise man. He actually said, if this doesn't go well down at Crown jewel, I'm going to have to ask myself why I picked you over Roman Reigns. So he's already having a little bit of dot. Okay. So he's already starting to. Oh, my God. He's yearning for the days when he was riding over there, Relevancy island, you know, whenever he was. When he was living the high life with the tribal chief, and now he's over there with the vision going, you know what my vision is now? Now, how the hell do I get out of here? So big times in Austin.
- [80:28]
G
I just got off a charter with, like 80 people probably sweating it up. You know what I'm saying? That's not the good life. It's not bad, but it's not the good life. It's not the promised land.
- [80:38]
A
Yeah. It's not. It's not life around.
- [80:41]
G
You know what I'm talking about?
- [80:42]
A
I do.
- [80:46]
G
I acknow that's right.
- [80:47]
A
Yeah. Acknowledgement. I acknowledge that's right. Yeah. No questions.
- [80:50]
H
Rare air, baby.
- [80:51]
A
It is. And you were breathing it for a long time. Well, also, others were trying to yeet. It's like, can you yeet up at that altitude? We shall see. I know. I couldn't. I was getting blown up every single week as Jay was riding his wave to the top. AJ Has a question for you. Tribal chief.
- [81:05]
H
Yeah. Speaking of ra. Rare air, what you have done and been at the top for so long, I wonder. It reminds me of like, Tiger woods, how long he held world number one just for astronomical amounts of time. Everyone taking shots at him, trying to get his top spot. Have you reached out ever to anyone in other sports, say, like a Tom Brady during his run, all these guys that may be the top of their sport and try to, like, say, hey, how do you. How do you do it? How do you handle this when everyone's trying to come get your spot?
- [81:30]
E
Question?
- [81:30]
G
No, I, I never. Outside of probably talking to, like, Dwayne, you know, Johnson.
- [81:39]
F
Of course.
- [81:40]
G
I, I was. We're down here in Miami, so I was thinking maybe Wade or whatever. He's won championships. Yeah, yeah, he's won some championships. Championships down here. But no, I haven't had the privilege of talking to any of those guys. But I definitely studied that. You know what I mean? I've definitely watched, you know, in Michael Jordan, Tiger, Tom Brady, all these guys, all. Everybody, you know, the goats of their space, of their sport, of their skill. I, I think it's, It's. It's an easy watch. I mean, ESPN, they have so many documentaries all the 30 for 30s. So you can kind of dive into that and, and, and look into the psyche of what these guys were thinking or feeling, what they're going through. A lot of times, too. They're going through a lot of, you know, they're going through some shit in real life. They're going through personal. Personal stuff too, which is interesting because a lot of these guys actually are. To be able to chase and focus on the greatness while your life is going nuts, that's a, That's a skill in its own right. But, yeah, I've definitely studied and I've said this before, like, like, as I'm sure you boys have done yourselves. Cause you've all achieved, you know, a very high success rate in your own lanes. You take pages from people's playbooks. You see somebody doing something seamless like. Oh, man, like, you know, Rock Cena, you know, older guys than me, like Randy Orton, Rey Mysterio, all the way back to, you know, someone I didn't get much, much time with. But the Undertaker or Bob back.
- [83:12]
D
Yeah, there we go.
- [83:13]
A
Obviously he's pulling stuff from Bob Backlin, for sure.
- [83:16]
G
Yeah, why not? Hey, pop out them steps and get some cardio in. But, yeah, they all. Everybody's got something that they do. Just like, man, that's so smart. Why? Where did you figure that out? And, and then, you know, you just steal that. And that's all it is. Just stealing plays like football it's copycat. You know what I mean? You just take what you like and make it your own. And then all of a sudden they're singing. You pray.
- [83:38]
A
Yeah. Stealing. Learning, you know, it's. It's all different types of conversations because you make it into your own. And I think anybody that's at the top is obviously a big time learner and committed to getting better every single day, which you certainly have and continue to do. You got that dog trait that takes you to the top. That's because you're a football guy. We love that. Go ahead, Ty.
- [83:56]
C
Yeah, my tribal chief. I know how busy you are, so I'm not sure how much you've been able to pay attention to your alma mater. But. But, boy, I'll tell you what, Georgia Tech is humming right now. Undefeated in the acc. Is Georgia Tech going to win the ACC this year? Are we thinking. Hey, the, the playoffs are coming and Haynes, King and the boys are going to be there.
- [84:17]
E
You down in Miami right now?
- [84:19]
G
I don't know. I don't want to jinx it. The moment I start running my mouth, my teams do not perform well. So we're just going to enjoy what you know. Hey, if you want to play good football. Excuse me. If you want to be successful in life, if you want to be a part of something after football quits you, because it quits all of us, unless you're fortunate enough to keep talking about it after you're done, you want to be a part of this Georgia Tech community, You want to be a part of this Georgia Tech fraternity? We're winners, man. And I want to say at least 25 to 30% of us are easy millionaires. So that's something we've been doing. Before the social media game, before there became all these different avenues to create revenue, we were at the groundwork and, you know, starting with just geniuses, you.
- [85:07]
H
Know what I mean?
- [85:07]
G
Engineers just getting it done. And the ones who aren't engineers, we're taught how to run them, you know what I'm saying? We're taught how to employ them and manage them in one of the greatest markets of Atlanta. So if you're not buying what I'm selling at this point, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, that's the place to be because that's what taught me how to. Pensacola could only do so much. I love Pensacola, Florida, the Panhandle. It taught me how to be a young man, but Georgia Tech and Atlanta taught me how to be a grown man. So please join. Join. Membership has its privileges, boys.
- [85:41]
A
Ty, Astro, Ty Ash, he said, I don't know how much you're paying attention to. He understands everything's recruiting. He just dropped into a recruiting pit for Georgia Tech. Immediately, 25, 30% of us become billionaires.
- [85:52]
G
You're not getting my money, but I will. I will push you.
- [85:58]
A
Football, obviously. Wwe, now, you just talked about being in Australia. You have a huge role in Street Fighter. DBut has a question for you.
- [86:05]
E
Absolutely. We all grew up playing Street Fighter. That's a big, big opportunity. You can't wait to see it. But how has balancing being a WWE Superstar and being a big Hollywood star, how has that been so far? You mentioned talking to Dwayne Johnson before. Have you leaned on him or some other guys? And how. Just how has that been?
- [86:25]
G
Well, no, I mean, I. Man, it was so busy going back and forth and trying to get through Paris and then get to the point of getting down there. My kids, you know, they're all in school right now, and so, you know, we're in the fall. We're in the thick of it. So I didn't get a chance to tap into anybody, but. But that's one thing I did do is when I was down on Hobbs and Shaw, I was able to, like I said, just absorb everything and just kind of monitor and just, you know, download as much of the process as possible. And that helped me out a lot when I got down there. And also, too, the things that I didn't like about my experience or maybe my attitude in the last project or two that I've done and just different ways to. To, you know, psychologically prepare myself for a different process, because that. That's. That was the biggest thing. I'm so used to my WWE bubble. I'm so used to that process and being live and jetting in and jetting out, you know, having the bus and having my own little, you know, my own little creative space. So I had to just kind of rewire myself to be ready for a different process and. But, yeah, man, it was fun. It was a good time. And there was. There was that one little moment in time where I was like, man, this is kind of what being a movie star feels like. You know what I mean? Being in that little bubble, it was cool. And it was. It's interesting because everything I've learned in wwe, everything they've taught me, all these skills that I've acquired and I've sharpened, they all translate.
- [87:55]
A
Yeah. Selling, giving, delivering, remembering, adjusting, everything carries over. I think you're gonna be massive star, dude, because, you know, I don't have to tell you this. You already know you have a mirror. This dude is wildly attractive. Okay? It is. It is our. Yeah. And I know you used to be a vest boy. Okay. Used to be a little bit, you know, Ooh. Used to get a little. A little comfortable.
- [88:22]
G
That's a detachable man. I was chubby, you know what I mean?
- [88:25]
I
Holding water.
- [88:26]
G
Holding water. Just athletic as all hell.
- [88:28]
I
Hell, though.
- [88:28]
G
Holding water.
- [88:29]
A
And that's how he views himself, I think, still as that fat guy. And then he walks out and he's just like 4% body fat. And the whole place is like, what the is that thing that just walked out here? Which is great for that was last month, though.
- [88:41]
G
That was last. It's. It's Oktoberfest, baby. We're coming in watery.
- [88:47]
A
That's good. You got Brunson Reed.
- [88:48]
G
You're gonna need that. It's Sam Adams fault.
- [88:50]
B
Oh, man.
- [88:52]
G
Every time it comes around, the fall comes around, around. Football is happening. It's my favorite.
- [88:57]
A
I loved you here. And I'm used to the WWE process, you know, jetting in. I got a bus, my own little creative bubble, and then I kind of jet out of there. Movie. We're on a commercial thing. Okay. We're at somebody else's movie set. All right. I guess I'll adapt to the process here and we will still try to crush it. I can't wait to watch you master that lane. Just like you mastered wwe. And if you would have stuck with football, we all assume you'd end up in the hall of Fame for that as well. We appreciate you, man. Thank you for joining us. Safe travels down to Australia.
- [89:23]
G
Thank you, fellas. Appreciate you all for having me. That's right.
- [89:28]
A
That's right.
- [89:29]
G
Always.
- [89:29]
A
Ladies and gentlemen, our tribal chief, the Only tribal chief, TC1, Roman Reigns. Thank you, Robin. Yeah, Roman. Little different process down there for that movie. You know, I'm six times world champion. I was champion for 1,360 days. You know, WWE know exactly where the food is. Everybody kind of knows where I'm going. We all understand what we're all looking for around here. I got this movie set, okay? We're in somebody else's playground, all of a sudden, you don't care I'm running 1,300. Yes.
- [90:02]
C
Oh, really? Yeah. Who gives a. Your. Your call times in eight hours, okay?
- [90:05]
A
We need you. And also, here's your trailer. Same size. Everybody else's. It is the movie world. I got a chance to experience. Experience it a little bit. There With Mosquito Bull when I went over there. And it's very similar though to a team like, you know, it's very similar to like a football team, who's the coach, who's running operations, yada yada. Everybody has to come together, Everybody has a job. And managing it all is crazy. Those movies, insane. That Street Fighter 1, they had like 10 celebs in it.
- [90:31]
C
Yeah.
- [90:32]
A
So that involves everybody's people as well, let alone shooting and everything.
- [90:36]
H
Everybody's people. Think about that. Managing everybody's people. That would be tough.
- [90:39]
A
Going to Australia too, getting enough space and then Australia, if it's anything like what it was for Mosquito Bowl, Australia provides the production companies, the trucks, everything like that. The extras, they are for the movie that I was at for what, 11 days I was there, let alone they're still shooting. They've been over there a long time. That's a full family. They've been going through like an entire season. All the Aussie people were awesome. Just like wanting to help, do whatever they can, can. And they all got such sweet accents.
- [91:04]
C
Yeah.
- [91:04]
A
You know, the sweet accents are always such a good thing. Congrats to Roman Reigns Bronson Reed. Roman Reigns. This is a huge night for Brunson.
- [91:13]
C
Yeah.
- [91:13]
A
I mean, this is the biggest night of Brunson Reed's life. Without a doubt, in his home country. Home game.
- [91:18]
B
Yeah.
- [91:18]
A
Gonna have to do it.
- [91:19]
C
Not a cage match, is it?
- [91:21]
A
He's not going outside of the cage.
- [91:22]
C
Okay. Just making sure. What do you mean?
- [91:24]
A
What are you saying that for?
- [91:25]
C
Because the last time we saw him do that, we saw both of his shin bones explode out of his legs. You know, like goddamn horror movie.
- [91:32]
A
Yeah, but he'd be willing to do that. Which is what you have to know, you know, is that that's who you're taking on. When that tsunami comes, there's a chance that you're going to get splatted and he might as well. And Roman understands what he's in for. OBJ went on the pivot and disclosed that he's going to be serving a six game PED suspension. We'd like to tell him, hey, obj, everything you've done done for football thus far. Great, brother.
- [91:55]
B
Hell yeah.
- [91:56]
A
Thank you. I think coming out and addressing it is the smart play. Seemed like he was at peace a little bit on that particular pivot podcast. And then I think he also mentioned in there. I didn't get a chance to listen to the entire conversation, I certainly will. About playing for the Giants again. So now we, we wait to see what Odell Beckham's future looks like. But a guy who's become a megastar in our world is now facing a six game pd, I think he said, said, you know, he obviously regretted it all and talked about what kind of got lost and stuff. It was a very transparent Odell Beckham Jr. On the pivot. And what are your thoughts on him, the player at this point and how should we think of obj?
- [92:31]
E
You know, he hasn't been what we remember him to be like his peak obviously for a while. He talked about his time in Miami where he was kind of maybe halfway in, halfway out. You know, you spend so much time, you know, in the building and a guy like him. You mentioned being a megastar. When we were playing, he was, I would say, easily the most popular football player in the world. You know what I mean? Probably outside of the quarterback, maybe Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, those guys. But like he was right in that atmosphere and we never really seen that from a guy. But as far as a football player on the field, you know, at this point we have to see it, you know, see it to believe it. But Odell, he's a freak show of an athlete. If he has had this time off to get fully healthy, who knows what, you know, environment he can go in and compete now, him and the Giants, that's surprising. You know, I know it's, you know, I know he loves the place. That's where it all started. But, you know, got young quarterback. I would expect to maybe like the rest of the.
- [93:21]
A
I think he likes the moxie of 44 and 6, dude. I think he likes the moxie of the boys over there in day ball. There's a chance, you know, thinking about him on peds is crazy. Just if you go back to his prime because what he was doing, like, imagine if he was to juice up then like, what the hell? Well, dude, he was so outrageous. I played catch with him at the Pro bowl and he won. Like, I didn't know he could play catch. I'm throwing him the ball and just like insane catch every single time he's throwing. I have no idea how I became the person playing catch with him. I think I was out on the field kicking. He came out early for warmups. Normal equipment crew that might throw or backup quarterback that might throw through him is not out there. So literally, I kick a ball, he comes over, spins one, kicks one. Like a 50 yard field goal makes it. It's insane. Was absolutely insane. Just spinning the ball. Makes a brand new football too. Should not have went that far, no problem. He makes it and then just like a ball just gets thrown and then gets thrown back. All of a sudden I'm playing catch with Odell Beckham Jr. Oh, this is sick. Okay, so let's go ahead and miss.
- [94:19]
C
A little high here.
- [94:19]
A
Let's just, you know what I mean?
- [94:20]
C
Oh yeah.
- [94:21]
A
And it was like I got to see and experience it and obviously everybody else is watching as well. And it was like this guy's winning a game of catch right now just because of how filthy he is is hands.
- [94:30]
B
Yeah.
- [94:30]
A
So, so big.
- [94:31]
B
Yeah.
- [94:32]
A
Just outrageous talent. What he was able to do. Football, obviously that catch is what everybody's going to remember him for in the biggest market and the biggest game and everything like that. But he was explosive for a long time. AJ obj he was crazy competitive too.
- [94:45]
H
That's what you remember. Like how that dude would compete with anybody going back and forth and I mean for young kids, everyone. I don't know how many generations it'll go, but you make a one handed catch like it's, it's no bj like even six year old kids now they say that.
- [94:56]
A
Joining us now is a man that might be changing how we call things forever as well. He's a rookie in the NFL. He's already leading the NFL in a lot of different categories. He's been a player of a month already. There's talking about him being the favorite for the offensive rookie of the year and coming out of Ohio State. There wasn't a lot of fanfare about him because this guy doesn't care, just likes the ball and they love him. In Tampa Bay, ladies and gentlemen, the explosive a Mecca. How are you, dude?
- [95:25]
F
What up? How you guys doing? I'm doing good.
- [95:27]
A
Hey, we're great. Thank you so much for joining us. Are you an Adidas athlete?
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F
I am. I'm an Adidas athlete, bro.
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A
They're giving money to everybody. They're trying to get into football. It feels like Adidas is trying to get into football for real. And we appreciate that, that Adidas is getting in. Nike's in. And I think Adidas is saying we picked the right guy here. And you let's, let's chit chat about how this has gone thus far from our perspective. Okay? A.J. hawk, obviously Ohio State legend, much like yourself, he has a tree on campus. You certainly will have a tree on campus at some point. And you might be the president of Ohio like AJ Hawk was a couple years ago, but at Ohio State you're always like the number two wide receiver or Number three, wide receiver. That was in topic of conversation. Always did your job, never bitched at all. I think AJ actually said a Mecha Buko whenever he gets into the NFL is going to be a guy. It has certainly been that. Do you think your journey through Ohio State, how it went, has prepared you for this type of situation, being in the NFL and have you always been like the most mature guy of all time basically to handle all these things?
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F
So the first part of your question. Yeah, I think Ohio State has, you know, made me ready for my NFL career in a lot of ways. I think something that the wide receiver room at Ohio State prides ourselves on is, you know, having three wide receiver ones at any given time. So, so we have all the ability to be able to dominate any given game and we're all super confident in that ability. And just being in that room for so many years and competing with those guys day by day just made me into such a better football player. That was part of the reason that I went to Ohio State was because, you know, I was a five star top 10 recruit, you know, number one wide receiver in my class, all that type of stuff and you know, could have gone anywhere. Bama, you know, Clemson was hot at the time when I was coming out out. But I wanted to go to Ohio State because I knew that that receiver room was special and I needed to be, you know, I wanted to grow my ability and not just see the field right away. I knew I needed to actually push myself because I have, you know, big goals for my future in the NFL.
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A
See that's a super mature way of looking. Yeah. As a 17 year old, 18 year old. So that goes back to the end of my thing. Yes, you've always been mature throughout it all. Go ahead, Aiden Jay.
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H
Yeah, in that receiver room we always hear about Brian Hartline. So I actually played with Heartline. I, I knew firsthand that guy is an absolute stud on the field and as a recruiter and a coach, he is. But what is it? What separates him and Ryan dad, you think as coaches that kind of continues? We, we know everybody has talent, but you guys just continue, you know, three, four, five deep. It doesn't matter who they could throw to at Ohio State, you guys are going to get it done. Like what, what separates them, do you think as coaches?
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F
I think a lot of the success that you see from the Ohio State receivers is a reflection of, of coach Harland's mentality. And it's not that he made us that way, but he recruits like minded individuals People who are perfectionists and you know, want the most out of their career that they can get. And in some senses, Coach Hart kind of expects more out of you than you expect of yourself sometimes. So he believes in all of us and all of our ability to be able to succeed and do everything that we want to do do. And he put so much into coaching us and, you know, making us know what we need to know to go out there and execute.
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A
That was at Ohio State and then now at Tampa Bay. I think Baker said you said something during the spring that blew his mind. He's like, wait a minute, this might be a guy. You've been one of his go tos. And there's some stats that Hembo sent us over and you have two 50 yard catches, only wide receiver with more than one thus far in the season, seven 25 yard catches, that's most in the NFL at five touchdown catches average 33 yard. I mean you are explosive in every facet and you make insane catches look very easy and you're always open. It's not supposed to be like this for rookies in the NFL. It's supposed to be the grown mans league. You're supposed to struggle a little bit. Instead, we're seeing the best football from you and also the best football from Baker. But they're not the only ones. AQ has a question for you. As a former super bowl champion Tampa Bay Buccaneer.
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B
Yeah, I played with Chris Godwin and Mike Evans down there. How has having them in the room room, veteran leaders as well as Baker helped you transition in your rookie season?
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F
It's been super instrumental in my success. Obviously the reason, you know, part of the reason I was the first round pick is because of my natural talent and my ability that God gave me. But just the confidence that they put into me, just really on the mental side of things, just making sure I know my job. They're always, they always have an open ear for me to ask any question. I'm a big question asker so, you know, I'll probably annoy them with how much I ask, but they're always ready to answer and give me the real. And you know, they just pump so much confidence into me. Like Mike is a dude who's constantly in my ear telling me, you know, you were built for this, you can do this, you were made for this. Like you're that guy. And like just having someone like that, a Hall of Famer who believes in you to that type of level, just makes you go out on the field and really, you know, ball out and do what you were made to do do.
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A
You're certainly doing that. And believing in yourself and believing in your team is potentially why you guys have four fourth quarter comebacks this season to start the year. The culture there seemingly great, especially with what you just said about Mike Evans relaying to you a man who could potentially take the the mantle of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers wide receiver for the next 15 years, like Mike Evans has been able to do, no pettiness, no jealousy. Instead it's complete opposite. Gassing you up. I love that. And your quarterback has been doing the same thing, except for in one particular time. Go ahead, Ty.
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C
Yeah, Mecca, a couple weeks ago Bake and, and Pat mentioned it. You've had, you know, like one to two highlight reel catches almost every single week, but a couple weeks ago you had a sick one handed catch. And I think we got some audio of Baker basically telling you like, hey rook, you know, use two hands, okay? You're making my ball look less pretty by making a one handed catch catch. At this point now, a couple weeks removed from that, have you gotten. Are you. You have carte blanche now where it's basically like, if Bake's gonna throw it to you, it's like, hey, Bake, shut up. I'm gonna snag this thing and there's a good chance I'm gonna score. How has that gone?
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F
Nah, I mean, our relationship is great. You know, if you guys get a chance to talk to him, you can ask him. But like, ever since that, sometimes I'll just one hand something in practice just to just look at him and laugh. But no, we have a great relationship. You know, it's all, you know, we're joking around, we're having fun and that's really what it's about at the end of the day, like we're having fun playing football and in the high stress situation in the lives that we live, sometimes you can lose that a little bit. Obviously winning is the most fun, is the most fun thing, but just to be able to ball with your boys like, like you used to is, you know, something that we really enjoy.
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A
So did you enjoy Baker in that? Seattle Seahawks fan, we love, loved it. We loved the little sauce that he still has.
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F
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he was balling. He was balling. You know, that's a. I'm from Seattle, so it's been a lifelong dream of mine to play in that stadium and to have a guy like that go out there with some fire and you know, talk to the historic fan who's always there at the opposing tunnel. You know, it just got the whole team going. And obviously his performance speaks for itself. And, you know, he's just a baller.
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A
Don't wake him up, I think is the thing, you know, and I talked about this yesterday. It's like teams might need to send out, like, emails to season ticket holders and people that are going to be there. Like, hey, we just don't talk to the.
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C
The.
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A
The quarterback. Yeah. Actually bring signs. Pro bakers. Baker, welcome to time. Great to have you. BYU was doing that. Wvu, did you see that? Oh, yeah, they're making them ice cream and singing their songs. We went out there, then he beat us by fifth. I mean, it was unbelievable. Very hospitable. As is Ohio State. We don't have to get into it. We got a number one wide receiver in the country saying, I want to go to that place because there's other number one wide receivers. I'll tell you what, West Virginia would die to have that. We'd really enjoy to have that type of situation happening in our particular locker room. Now let's talk about you and football, your football life. Go ahead, D. Bud.
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E
Yeah. Mike, you talked about your upbringing in Seattle. I think I heard in the broadcast about your spectacular baseball career growing up. You won pitch, hit and run, started getting college offers pretty early. Then after Covid, I believe a couple seasons were canceled, you committed, I guess, fully to football. How was that decision made? Obviously, it worked out. You said you were a five star, number one wide receiver in the country coming out as well. But how did that, I guess, final decision, how did that work out? To be just straight football?
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F
Yeah, I mean, honestly, it was less of a decision and more of just like baseball just finding its way out of my life. You know, I still, I love the game of baseball, you know, still miss it from time to time. But, you know, I played my freshman in my sophomore year in high school. Then Covid hit. My junior year was entirely canceled. I played for a select baseball team in the summer. All my summer tournaments were canceled. And then senior year rolls around and I early committed to Ohio State. And, you know, I could have played baseball at Ohio State. I had, you know, the opportunity. I talked to the baseball coach and everything. And, you know, once I got there, kind of got a. Got a grasp of the football schedule, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna stick to one sport.
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E
How old were you when you started getting those offers? I saw a report online. It was AI overview, and they said eight years Old baseball.
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B
Yeah.
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E
I don't know how true that is.
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A
But you must have been hit.
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E
Start getting offers?
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F
Nah, I don't think I had any official offers when I was 8, but, you know, football offers started coming in when I was 14, and then, you know, from those various schools who offered me for football, I'll get in touch with their. Their baseball coaches as well and kind of chop it up. But, you know, at high school and all my travel tournaments and stuff like that, I had MLB scouts in there and stuff there, so it was pretty cool at a young age.
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A
Yeah. We assume it would have worked out if that would have happened. Can I ask you about your junior, your senior year being Covid years? Because we talk about your generation. I want to let you know that our show. I'm 38 years old, we got everywhere from 24, 25 to 41 on our show, basically is our range. And we had a vastly different life, obviously, than the group right after us growing up. But your generation, the COVID high school life forming, friendship forming, societal interaction forming, years just kind of taken away from you. Do, like, do you look back on those years? Like, what do you take away from those baseball ends up out of your life? I don't know about, like, homecoming and prom and, like, all the things that also got taken away. But do you just try not to think about it, or do you have, like, you look back on and say, like, well, it was actually good for me because of this. Like, is that how you try to spin it? How do you kind of view it? Because you're the first person from that generation that I'm getting to ask this question. So know that whatever you say, I'm gonna take with me for the rest of my life. Okay.
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H
No pressure.
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F
Yeah. I mean, I can't speak for everybody. You know, everyone has their own experience and everything like that. For me, you know, Covid was. It was strange at first. Yeah, they were kind of really strict on all the. On all the rules and, you know, wear your mask everywhere, and you can travel to other people's houses. So, like, I remember I was locked up in the house for a little bit, and I was like, yo, this is crazy. So I was just doing school from home and everything like that, but. But kind of as we got a grasp of what it was and got an understanding of it, for me personally, like, my schedule was all the way messed up in Covid. Like, I didn't have to sleep, go to sleep early to go to school and everything like that. My schedule, like, I still Remember it to this day. I would wake up at, like, 11 or noon, and then I would go to. I would go to my first workout, which was, like, wide receiver training with my wide receiver coach, come back, get some lunch. Then I go to Lyft, come back, do my homework, and then, like, from there on, I was like, you know, on the game, playing Call of Duty with my friends and stuff like that. Just staying up, like, all hours of the night because I didn't have to wake up for school. So, like, my schedule was definitely a little messed up. But I spent a lot of time, like, playing football. Like, I really did. I spent so much time playing football, like, I didn't have to go to school. I. I was meeting with my wide receiver coach every day, honing my craft, getting strong in the gym. Like, that was the strongest I was. Was during COVID Like, I came in my freshman year, and, you know, I was benching. I don't know. I did, like, 225 for 14, like, as a freshman, just coming in, like, just knocked him out. And obviously, I got stronger throughout my college career, but, like, I was strong when I came into Ohio State.
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A
You're a professional athlete in the off season through Covid? Yeah, yeah, I'm a game a little bit. Yeah. Guys, keep it down. Got a big one. Like, maybe some popcorn as well, you know, and then wake up at 11. Let's get the first workout in the day. Let's go work on some technique. Let's go ahead and get a lift in. We gotta do school. They said, got an email here. All right, I'll take this test. Let me go through this.
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F
Because, like, when I. When I went to Ohio State, they didn't require any act, any sat. Like, none of that was required to actually get into school. So, like, nice.
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A
Ohio State, huh?
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H
That wasn't Ohio State.
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G
Oh, yeah.
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A
Okay, now it all makes sense. Yeah, we got. We got professional athletes coming out of COVID benching 225, 14 times. No ACT, no SAT. Come on in here. Yeah, we got all the number ones that we need. Geez. Ryan Day's doing it right over there. And so are you, man. It's been an honor to watch you honestly learn about your story more and more and then watch you just kind of dominate the NFL while also doing that in college. I think you have multiple Ohio State records, but you were never the one that was being, like, heralded. So you literally just had to sit there and watch your best friends get a lot of shine, shine. And just kind of go through it. I'll block downfield. I'll do whatever I got to do. And now you're in the NFL and you're the superstar, dude. You've earned it. You deserve it. And we're happy for you.
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F
I appreciate you. Thanks for having me.
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A
Adidas picked the right one, man.
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C
Yeah, they did.
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A
Yes, they did. Hey, if you know anybody Adidas, let them know. We love ball, too. We love ball, too. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Mecca Buca. Let's head over to Hammer. What does he have? He has the most yards in Ohio State history. Is that what Mecca Booker's record is?
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B
I think I. I think it's most receptions and yards if I had to.
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H
200 and some receptions, I believe. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And A.J. he was literally. We had Jackson, Smith and Jigba, Marvin Harrison Jr. And Wilson Garrett Wilson in there. That entire. They were the ones end, too. Yeah. Yeah, they were the ones. Boom. Yeah.
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C
It's okay in there, too.
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A
You're in Hammer D. I heard it.
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B
Was the first one.
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A
Yeah, yeah. Chair McClure maybe before him, maybe, but he was never the guy that was talked about. So it's like this guy's a superstar, but he's not the guy. So I guess we just won't talk about him. And he didn't care. A.J. you got to love that as an Ohio State Buckeye alumni, like, that's what Ryan Day selling almost. And they're actually living up to it. That's beautiful thing.
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H
Yeah, it is. And people internally, and you talk to any coaches or anyone affiliated with the program, they would tell you about a Mecca, always from the jump from when he got on campus. So, yeah, he was a special kid from the. From the beginning. But, yeah, it's. They got a good thing going there, I'd say, in the receiver room. Hopefully they keep it going.
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A
I'll never forget it. I woke up around 11 noonish, I guess, have a little breakfast.
- [110:18]
C
Awesome situation.
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A
Me and my wide receiver coach. There's a lot of negatives.
- [110:23]
B
Yeah, there are.
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A
From that era, but from a strictly become a professional athlete standpoint, sure there's some positives out of this thing. Working with your wide receiver coach every single day, getting like that attention detail, then lifting every single day because the games weren't happening. So literally, how. The amount of motivation that these coaches can say to them, too, like, how are you going to work versus everybody else? Like, everybody else is kind of in the dark right now. We don't know what anybody has because of games. We're not Seeing public workouts. We're not seeing group workouts. So the motivation is just very much like, what are you doing today that nobody else is doing? And it feels like he's a guy that's like everything, actually. Yeah, I'm going to do absolutely everything. Way to take advantage of a situation.
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E
Just locked in. It probably wasn't just him. It was probably other good receivers and probably DBs in that area. And they probably. They probably have their games, you know, because once was that the fall. So they probably.
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A
I was from Seattle.
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C
I was going to say knowing how it was with Seattle, like I said, bet it was probably pretty strict up there.
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A
Like first one, remember XFL game there was the NACHO stand.
- [111:19]
C
That's right. Seattle Dragons.
- [111:21]
E
But he said, he said his. His baseball season was canceled. They obviously didn't have any games. His junior or senior. He didn't. So I assume he played those football games because he was five star.
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H
He left early there, didn't he?
- [111:31]
E
Didn't he? It rolled early. Yeah.
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A
I don't know. I. I hope they had a season, but there was a lot of talk about no seasons. And Washington certainly a state that in my mind, I naturally think, think harsher restrictions.
- [111:43]
H
Some teams played like three or four games too. I know some senior classes got like two, three games.
- [111:47]
G
They got screwed.
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A
Remember Trey Lance? He played what, like five, six games or whatever it was two years out there because of the COVID So whatever the fact that he was able to get through all that and become the person he is, it's like incredible in between years, which is all anybody's looking for. If you have a special talent and you're in between the years, you're different. You're going to be a guy guy. Baker's down there killing it. Mike Evans, what a great mentor. Chris Godwin dog, he'll go across the middle anytime, anytime.
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B
Sterling shepherd now who's kind of have like a revival of his career after leaving the Giants down there.
- [112:18]
A
And then on defensive side, you got Vita Vea who will. Anybody in the league. Okay for you. And then obviously Levante David now is making no look diving interceptions. The Buccaneers might be team of destiny this year.
- [112:29]
B
They might k they got a good team.
- [112:32]
E
Tristan Worth back works is back. We're getting back in the phone. Yeah, Bucky. Mike Evans. Get back in there.
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A
Like before we go off of espn, a couple stories we got to hit. North Carolina football team's had a tough couple weeks. Days. Months.
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C
Yeah, it's terrible. Good way of putting it.
- [112:49]
A
It's been pretty he feels like there's nothing good. You know, that first drive.
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E
Oh man, never take it from.
- [112:57]
A
We were down there, it was going, Petey Pablo's up there, didn't even perform. Didn't need him to. Just showed his face. Place went crazy. Come on, North Carolina, raise up. You know, we all immediately almost like took our shirts off and spun around our head just like hill up places, going crazy. Well then the other team got the ball at tcu and then they just continue to just beat the shit out of the team. And then what happened from there forward is the same thing. And then it's not just on the field where they're getting kicked, it's every angle off the field as well. Hey, did you know this? Did you know this? People are saying, I wish they wouldn't have.
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H
They canceled the doc for the huwu doc. I wish that wouldn't have happened.
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A
Yeah, but what if it was? What if it's supposed to be a three year dock and you know, it's like the long term process build. All I'm saying is, as somebody that obviously worked with Michael Lombardi and Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick last year, Michael Lombardi the last few years, he's been a good.
- [113:49]
B
Guy to us, sure.
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A
But boy, I guess these agents and players and everything are saying a different story. We, we think they still got time, but boy, it is loud outside down there. Yeah.
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B
Someone who grew up idolizing Bill Belichick. This is basically the worst possible scenario on how this could have gone as a fan of his. I don't know if somebody is, you know, kind of doing this to like make it seem like it's terrible. If that's the case, maybe they should say something.
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A
Oh, you're saying maybe there's a little bit of. If there is work.
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B
Yeah. If there is some. Because obviously Bill made a few enemies over his time in, in New England. It's just one of those things like, hey, someone's got to come out and say this isn't true.
- [114:22]
F
Because everyone who was a fan of.
- [114:23]
B
Him kind of is losing it a little bit when it comes to that.
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A
And we'll continue digitally. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Oh, I forgot what day it was right there. It's Wednesday.
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F
Okay.
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G
Yeah, just.
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A
So we're on.
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B
Yeah, it's Wednesday.
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G
Wednesday.
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A
Thank you. Shipley's here.
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C
Yeah, that's right. That's right.
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F
Right.
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B
A.J. hawks here.
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A
Yes.
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C
See, See, he's here every Day.
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A
So it's Monday or Thursday. Oh, that's cuz he's on the wall and I'm here. So it's not Friday.
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C
Exactly.
- [114:49]
A
So that. That gave four. This is like a guess who game. You know, like a. AJ Hawk is here. He's on first. So it's not Friday.
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H
It's a good game.
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A
There's no game tonight. Okay, so it's not Monday or Thursday.
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B
BA Is not here. Not Tuesday.
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A
See, I haven't got to that point yet.
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F
Fair.
- [115:08]
A
I haven't got to. Tuesday's Bruce day.
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B
Thursday was Chuck's day.
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F
Bingo.
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A
Yeah, because McCarthy. So I still think that my brain hasn't bought in completely. You are the outlier though. I should have looked over and saw you and said, huh? Day.
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C
Yeah, exactly.
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A
You know what I mean? That's what I should have said.
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B
What, what's that reference?
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A
Well, just like right now I look like a.
- [115:31]
B
No, no, you're. No, no, you're good.
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A
I'm still day.
- [115:34]
E
What do we.
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B
What do we mean?
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C
I figured that.
- [115:36]
A
I mean, I'm talking about broad shoulders.
- [115:38]
H
You got broad shoulders.
- [115:39]
C
Talking about the, the trophy for the trenchy. For the trench.
- [115:42]
B
What is happening?
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A
No, I'm talking about how we look just right now it looks like just.
- [115:46]
B
There'S a hump that was humped over a bit.
- [115:48]
A
Yeah, humped over. Peacock Day. Wednesday.
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C
Go posture.
- [115:53]
A
What day is it? Mike, you remember that?
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H
Oh, yeah.
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B
Geico.
- [115:59]
C
Come on.
- [116:01]
A
That was a good episode. Good commercial. I'm sorry, Good segment. Have I seen a lot of. What's that guy's name?
- [116:09]
H
Mayhem?
- [116:10]
A
No, Stephen Hawking. I've seen a lot of him.
- [116:12]
C
There's been a lot of Steve. Stephen Hawking out there.
- [116:15]
A
Michael Cole. Calling these things Michael.
- [116:20]
H
Me some I think are real. I stuck with the Michael Cole ones.
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A
I talked about that with. We showed the Karen Lacy video on Monday that. That was made publicly available. Millions of people saw the video. It's like, hold on. Feels like everything we were told about this is potentially different. And then two days later the state police go like, hold on. There's actually full, full context. We think we, we thought we had more context. Full context. And then we find out there's even more context here. It's like that's kind of in live Daily show stuff. And as more things are made available, obviously we will reference them, especially in something like this situation. But like in real time right now, being live show host with what AI is and what's possible with just like literally the click of a button on your phone, it's wild, wild west right now out here. So whenever you hear somebody from like a legal standpoint say, hey, this is what this is, we think, oh, we can believe it. This is what it is. And then the state police, literally two days later go, hold on, this is not, not what this is, though. And that's just in a very serious. That's legal. And state police people, the rest of the Internet, I mean, I don't know how we're ever going to be able to tell what is.
- [117:29]
H
There's no stopping it.
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I
There's no guardrails you can do at this point. It's out there and it's not going to get rolled back.
- [117:35]
C
It's only going to get better.
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A
So all you really need, though, and we've lived this through the Internet era, is all you need is a basic editor on your phone now and you can turn something just couple words change and it looks legit. And that narrative of that message might be completely different. And then people see that and then they set their agenda to that and their narrative. And then the ripple effect, the butterfly effect I get of just one of these things and the carry it has. And we're not saying that we aren't a part of. I mean, we all. Anybody that's on the Internet right now is kind of a part of it. But it's a wild time of like, we have to get context on for everything and literally everything, everything. And I know Stephen Hawkins passed away one smartest man. He's dead. But if somebody didn't know that. There's a video yesterday, I saw him going off top rope with Michael Colson.
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C
Hawkins flying, doing two back flips in the X Games, dropping into a half pipe.
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A
I mean, unbelievable. Yeah, the detail. And then to have Michael Cole like, hey, need Michael Cole to voice this over. No problem. We got him. People just chopping us in. And it's mlk.
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B
I mean, I saw MLK doesn't have dreams anymore.
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A
I am the dream.
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F
Yeah.
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E
Leave MLK alone.
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A
Well, Tupac and Biggie came out there in wwe.
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I
Cole has any idea what he's a.
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C
Part of right now?
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A
I sent him the one. I sent him the Stephen Hawking one. I'm like, bro, why did you say this? And I sent it. And he goes, what? And then lol. Is that where we are with technology or something like that? It's like we're just at the very beginning of this entire thing.
- [119:00]
C
Well, that's the thing is like, right now, people are just doing. Doing it to like, show Stephen Hawking Winning the next game's gold medal. But you know, at a certain time it's going to be like, okay, we can actually kind of, you know, like put some people in some really bad situations, mold some narratives here. And it's going to be very hard to.
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A
We have to somehow that, that has to get figured out. Especially whenever you talk about like high school, college. People are still. They're growing up in this area and it's like they're. I mean, we get. Got so like easy. I couldn't even imagine. I don't know how we play defense against it. We certainly have to. We will try our absolute best to be a part of the solution. We promise you that. Now, granted, are we part of the problem? Some, certainly. And that's day to day with what we're operating and seeing. But we think as a whole we should be a part of solution and we're going to try to do that. We all agree?
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B
Yeah.
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E
Yeah.
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H
Yeah.
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A
Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three, Team. All right, we'll be back after this. Wrapping up, obviously, this glorious hump day, Wednesday day. We got. I mean, what does that.
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H
You can't do the arm.
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A
Just give him full context. We got a hump right over here. He's from. You remember that one, Camelback Mountain.
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C
Oh, there it is.
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A
That's what I'm doing. Yeah, that's what I'm doing. I love mountains over there.
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B
Yeah, of course.
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A
I love that. I love the way it is over here.
- [120:14]
B
I feel like I'm taking a lot of ricochet shots right now.
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A
It's not ricochet, I don't think. Right.
- [120:17]
B
Well, it started with that and then, then I think Ty said your gut and.
- [120:21]
E
No.
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A
Oh, yeah. That was a ricochet.
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I
That was.
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C
I'm just trying to infer. I didn't know.
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A
Yeah, yeah. Ty, I don't think that was ricochet either. That was definitely a cold blooded shot from. No, I love it.
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B
I'm the strongest I've ever been. So keep, keep, keep the shots coming.
- [120:36]
A
Oh, really? Yeah, we got a pretty little strong husky over here right now.
- [120:40]
B
I'm also the largest I've been in three years.
- [120:42]
A
So you doing any science? You doing any science or.
- [120:45]
B
No, not right now.
- [120:46]
A
You need to try it.
- [120:47]
B
It's tough.
- [120:47]
A
I'll tell you. You need to try the science. It's great. I know.
- [120:50]
H
I feel like you stop working out. Did you stop working out in the basement aq?
- [120:54]
B
No, no, I'm still doing it. I just.
- [120:55]
H
Oh, you're just bulking up.
- [120:57]
B
Just don't eat very healthy right now.
- [120:59]
A
You remember he was spending like six hours. Oh, I'm a chef. Remember he was doing that because he does fancy himself a good cook, which he is. He is actually good cook. Will take time to cook. We'll go to cities, call on behalf of himself, by himself to go see some chef's kitchen Kitchens so that he can good kitchens. Has respect for the kitchen game. Every super bowl, he's a part of the chef off, like aq. NFL player, loves cooking things aq. Shipley's here doing the chef off. So he does like cooking. But whenever he was like in his thin AQ days, you spent like five, six hours on Sunday meal prepping. And we had to get photos of him cooking the same meat every week. I tried new spice this week I did this. I did this. And I appreciate you doing this, that for the good of yourself. But how much happier are you now?
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B
Yeah, yeah, Real happy.
- [121:45]
A
We saw it. Yeah, we saw it. Like Marshall Yonda maybe.
- [121:49]
B
No way he's happy right now.
- [121:50]
A
I don't know. Maybe he is. There's some people that are like that. Like Anthony Castonzo, he was force feeding himself whenever he was a left tackle. So I think him in retirement, I think he's like happy that he doesn't have to eat a bunch. But man, if you're a big guy who likes to eat, which normally big guys like to do, that's why they're big guys. It's tough. You become miserable when you don't eat.
- [122:10]
F
No doubt.
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B
And I'm, I'm at the point right now where you don't realize this. This is the funny thing, right. Like when you're in meetings and your brain is always engaged, like your metabolism is always rolling, right?
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A
Yeah.
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B
When you're not in meetings, you don't have the stress of games, you don't have the stress of practice, you don't have the stress.
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A
You're wearing Crocs all the time. Yeah.
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B
All that. Yeah, exactly. Now, now I don't have that. My metabolism's not quite as good as it once was.
- [122:31]
A
I'm saying now with the crochet crocs, the metabolism is going down.
- [122:34]
F
Yeah.
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B
100.
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F
Yeah.
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A
This camo, what are you wearing today? These aren't Crocs.
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C
Those things are sick.
- [122:41]
F
Basically.
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B
Things are sick. Velcro. Can't even see them.
- [122:44]
A
What are they?
- [122:45]
B
Campaign speed. Lands under armor then. Remember I had the oak blood once. Now we got the camera. You can't even see them.
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A
We can't.
- [122:54]
H
Don't they like, click. You click them, right? They don't even tire.
- [122:56]
B
They're like a different. Yeah, boa. They got the boa on. There it is. There's the bow.
- [122:59]
H
Sweets. I love no ties.
- [123:00]
E
What the.
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A
Those are really cool, man.
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C
Space 33.
- [123:04]
A
So those are called speed Land.
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B
Speed Land?
- [123:06]
E
Yeah.
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A
Can you shoot a hoop? Can you shoot basketball with it?
- [123:08]
B
Sure.
- [123:09]
E
Dunk with those on. You kidding me?
- [123:10]
B
Yeah, I'll be.
- [123:11]
H
Are they for, like, running. Running trails or what?
- [123:13]
B
Yeah, that's what they're for.
- [123:14]
A
You're running trails in this thing people do.
- [123:17]
E
I'm not. All right.
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B
I don't know.
- [123:19]
A
Hey, I wouldn't mind running some trails.
- [123:21]
E
Come on.
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A
So get you some speed lane where I. I.
- [123:24]
C
We.
- [123:24]
A
Where Tony and I.
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B
They're better than some of those shoes over there.
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F
We already had that talk.
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A
I don't.
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B
There was one.
- [123:32]
E
It's a good lineup over there.
- [123:33]
B
There was one that was.
- [123:34]
E
Oh, yeah, yeah, it was one.
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B
There was one.
- [123:36]
E
Was one. Those colors.
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C
Those were a gift.
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F
Oh, yeah.
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A
We're not talking about that. I already, already, already, already eliminated those from my mind. And you will not see those amongst the others over here. Okay? You will not see those ever. Okay, let's. Let's just move along. Where me and Tone grew up, though, woods in between streets. So mine down at the bottom of the hill. Of all the hills in a hilly town. So it did a lot of woods walking, you know, to get to people's houses, school, and everything like that. I had no idea that's what people call hiking. Like, my wife was like, we're gonna go hiking on, like, a big hike. I was excited. I'm like, I've never gone hiking before. And then we go out to the woods, and we just start walking through the woods. I'm like, this is walking through the woods? No, we're hiking right now. I'm like, I grew up doing this. Literally. I've gone hiking 10,000 times. If that's what we're doing right here. Those shoes right there, Downhill roll ankle. I'm already seeing it.
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F
Nope.
- [124:32]
A
Yeah. Downhill roll ankles. Because, you know, experienced hikers going downhill is a certain thing. Yeah. Sideways, you're doing quick feet. Those things, you're done.
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F
No chance.
- [124:42]
A
Those are not speed, man. Those are broken ankle, man.
- [124:44]
B
Look how wide the footprint is. Look how wide it is. All these new shoes, the new Nikes, the new Brooks, the new everything. Super narrow, super narrow. That's why all these ankles are rolling. This one wide.
- [124:54]
A
Oh, so you're saying we got good grass whenever we're hiking through the woods in our speed bag. Are those waterproof?
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I
Can you get in the creek with those?
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B
Well, see, in Arizona, it doesn't take water very very well. So when it rains, it basically floods the whole city. Last week, I thought they were waterproof. I walked. My whole foot was wet. Didn't do anything. Whole foot. Whole foot was wet.
- [125:16]
A
So you just thought they were by looking at them, that they were.
- [125:19]
C
These things gotta be.
- [125:20]
B
I mean, they're for hiking. Don't. Doesn't it rain? That's fair.
- [125:24]
G
Dry hiking, maybe.
- [125:25]
A
Yeah. You're trying to walk through the woods, you're not trying to walk through the mud and those things. Speaking of, we got some rain out here.
- [125:31]
B
There's raining. It's raining.
- [125:34]
A
All right, let's get to a break.
- [125:35]
H
Poured all day here yesterday.
- [125:36]
A
The just sh.
- [125:37]
C
The hell's this guy doing?
- [125:38]
A
Let's get to a break.
- [125:39]
H
Who's there?
- [125:40]
A
I don't know. Honestly, I. I do not know. I. I do. There's just somebody. Just know. Now is not the time to be showing up here uninvited. There's a lot of things in this Thunderdome okay? There's a lot of things in this Thunderdome right now. There's been a lot of things said, you know, some people in here, so. Maybe we did. Maybe we did. Bunker to, hot toss a little bit here at the Thunder.
- [125:59]
B
We're all carrying this back, man.
- [126:03]
A
Precisely what Tone just said. We'll be back on the other side. What the is going on?
- [126:09]
B
I have no idea.
- [126:09]
A
A lot of balloons.
- [126:10]
B
There's a lot of balloons out there. Somebody's birthday.
- [126:13]
A
Is that Scar Guard out there?
- [126:15]
F
Could be.
- [126:16]
A
Could be. Bill Scar.
- [126:17]
C
Congratulations.
- [126:18]
B
Yeah, Bill Scarsgard. Driving a brand new 2002 blue Kia. You gotta love it.
- [126:24]
F
Still.
- [126:24]
B
Still. Classy.
- [126:28]
F
Hey, fans.
- [126:30]
A
Welcome back to Fansville's cheers and tears. Okay, so like, everybody deals with losing, right?
- [126:38]
I
To a rival and a last second field goal, whatever.
- [126:40]
A
It's fine. I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an.
- [126:44]
I
Ice cold Dr. Pepper.
- [126:47]
A
Those 23 flavors are like, so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of.
- [126:52]
C
Your college football team taking a big.
- [126:54]
A
Fat L. College football. It's a Pepper thing.
- [126:58]
E
You ever show up late to the.
- [126:59]
A
Game and your friend's already saved your.
- [127:01]
E
Seat, your drink, even a plate that's.
- [127:03]
B
Looking out, that's having your back.
- [127:05]
D
And that's exactly what AT&T does with the ATT guarantee.
- [127:10]
A
They know staying connected matters.
- [127:12]
E
That's why AT&T has connectivity.
- [127:14]
B
You depend on guaranteed.
- [127:17]
A
Or they'll proactively make it right.
- [127:19]
B
Just like that friend who takes care.
- [127:20]
A
Of things before you even ask. AT&T connecting changes everything.
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B
Terms and conditions apply.
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D
Visit att.com guarantee for details.
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C
Football.
- [127:33]
A
It's magical. That's A.J. hawk. The toxic tables here at Boston. Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Fresh off a big time Yankee win last night.
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C
Huge.
- [127:40]
A
Another one tonight. What time?
- [127:41]
C
7, 708.
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A
Where at?
- [127:43]
C
At Yankee Stadium on TBS or FS1, depending on, I mean, you know, hopefully TBS if they're smart.
- [127:52]
B
Yeah.
- [127:52]
A
FS1. Okay.
- [127:53]
C
FS1. So. Well, okay. There you go. FS1.
- [127:57]
A
Fox Sports won tonight. Blue Jays, Yankees. Crazy brink of elimination for Aaron Judge who has a magical night last night. It makes baseball more interesting than I've seen seen it in some time. Baseball's in a little bit of a run right now. Yankees moving on would be good for the storyline, but Toronto is one of the most sound teams in baseball and they got people doing Charlie Hustle the slides.
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I
Oh, yeah.
- [128:20]
A
Vlad Guerrero, known for being incredibly fast and great slider.
- [128:24]
C
No, I think he's actually slimmed down. I think he slimmed down quite a bit.
- [128:27]
A
Look at the horse running.
- [128:29]
C
This is just a guy knowing that, hey, we're gonna need this run to win this ball game. So I'm gonna sell it out big time.
- [128:34]
A
He hit a dong right in this game.
- [128:35]
C
Yes, he did. He's hit a homer in three straight games.
- [128:38]
A
AJ do you see this dude? Pete Rosen.
- [128:40]
H
That's right. I'll tell you what. Pete Rose. I heard about Pete Rose my whole life growing up. And watching Pete slide into first base like this is one of my favorite things ever.
- [128:48]
A
Yeah, they don't do that anymore.
- [128:49]
C
No, they don't.
- [128:50]
A
They don't do that.
- [128:51]
H
It actually slows you down if you slide in the first like that. But it looks great, though.
- [128:54]
A
Yeah. And slide into home, obviously. Good, because you got to beat the tag. Good throw there. Could have got him. He's running his ass, ass off right there.
- [129:00]
C
Yeah, big time. And it was, I mean, that was about as good of a throw as you can have. Maybe, you know, a little more cheese on it. But yeah, I mean, I, I think no one really looks at Vlad like he's some speedster. And I'm kind of thinking when I see him around there and I'm watching it live, like, oh, he's gonna, he's gonna throw him out by a wide margin. And Vlad just kept going and then he hits the Charlie Hustle slide. You know, he's going to be safe Athlete dude.
- [129:21]
A
Yeah, I respect him trying to put the team on his back. Nine year NFL vet Darius Jay Butler's here. We're about to have everything. DB Good. How many teams will be represented here?
- [129:30]
E
Oh, I mean, teams. Look, it'll be four good plays, two bad plays.
- [129:35]
A
Okay.
- [129:35]
E
But I think maybe four total teams, maybe five.
- [129:39]
A
What? Oh, so we're doing.
- [129:40]
E
Yeah, we got one on both. We got one on. Yes.
- [129:42]
A
Oh, okay.
- [129:43]
E
Which is a good omen so far.
- [129:45]
A
Okay. That is. It has been a good omen for teams that are not only on everything. DB good D, but also also in the trenches. Top five performer, offensive line. Thank you, Shipley. Good to see you. Aq. Joining us live from Hammer is AP Tone, who's also a credited author for College Football Space two time. Two time. We appreciate you, Tone.
- [130:05]
B
Over there, baby.
- [130:06]
A
Tone and Tone. It's a big day because, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for a show that we've been recording in the mornings on Wednesday, but I think it's much better if we do it live. It's another college football convo with Stanford Steve. Oh, good to see you, Steve. A man who has more miles logged in a football season than anybody else. Obviously, we see you working and grinding everywhere. We appreciate you at game day a lot. You obviously bring incredible knowledge and vibes. Not only set, but the production room and SVP and everything else you have going on. Podcast wise. We appreciate you making time for us every Wednesday day, but we think it was a necessity. Don't we think that, Tone? We thought it was a necessity to have at least one weekly college football pit stop. And no better person than Stanford Steve. Toad.
- [130:51]
B
Yeah, college football delivers for us, so we have to deliver for college football and highlight, you know, some of the best games of the weekend.
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A
Stanford. Steve, Week seven, We're heading to Oregon, brother. And if I had to describe Oregon in one particular word, I say far. But if I had to say more words, I say it's because beautiful. The trees are tall and the football team is damn good under Dan Lanning. Indiana, also great. What should we be thinking about it before we head out to beautiful Eugene, Oregon?
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I
A lot, Pat. There's. There's a ton. Oregon now has a nation's long winning streak at home. Indiana, obviously, with Sig coming in. And this is the game that everybody is pointed to because they want to see him in this kind of environment. With Mendoza, the similarities between the head coaches, I mean, look at that graphic there. The win percentage, the wins conference football playoff appearance, and then the quarterbacks Both, I mean, a ton of TUDs, you know, 16 and 1, 14 and 1 have really verified these two offenses and they're both transfers. And I think it says a lot about these head coaches of constantly hitting home runs. I mean, we look at the teams, we got what, 1, 2 and 4 from the preseason already unranked. And then you got two guys that have hit home runs at the portal at the most important position on the field, and that is quarterback. Mendoza has been sensational coming in from Cal. And Dante Moore, another former PAC 12 school, UCLA, coming into Oregon. The idea here is that Indiana's better than they were last year. Is it good enough to go on and win a game against the top five opponents? Opponent? That's the question that remains to be seen. Last year we waited all year for them to go to Columbus, got their doors blown off, got into the playoff, went on the road, got their doors blown off. The biggest question to me is how this is going to be different. I look towards the Indiana defense. I believe they're better. They have pros at each level in Kamar on the defensive line, Fisher at linebacker and Pons the corner. Sounds like he's going to play. He missed the Iowa game. So is Indiana ready to take that next step?
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A
Step?
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I
It's a big challenge. In Eugene.
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A
You talked about the continuity on the defensive side, all three levels there. You talked about the D lineman and Kamara the linebacker and Fiser, I believe. And then DB in pawns. They were all Big Ten last year. They all returned the defensive coordinator, what's his name? Tone.
- [133:13]
B
His name is. Oh, I just had it here. Brian Haynes.
- [133:16]
A
Haynes. He's been with Signetti for 11 years now. So you're talking about a lot of continuity on defensive side. I assume they think they've gotten better there. And then you talk about Mendoza. This guy's in Heisman conversation. Maybe number one overall pick conversation with this Indiana team. Insignetti seemingly has a winner tone. What did he miss there? What are some nuggets that we need to also think about that maybe Steve didn't hit on? As we head out to beautiful Oregon for college game day, guest picker, tbd.
- [133:40]
E
Oh, wow.
- [133:42]
B
You guys talked about them being both of them being top five in the Heisman conversation. These two are not number one and number two in the odds to go number one and number two in the NFL draft next season. So it's not like, like you have guys who are great Saturday players and great Saturday quarterbacks and I'm just gonna throw out like Diego Pavia he is an incredible college football quarterback. Is he gonna be in the NFL?
- [134:06]
C
Probably.
- [134:06]
B
Is he gonna be an NFL starter? Probably not. But like these guys, you don't know. I know, I'm just saying there's great Saturday players, but then there's great Saturday players and great Sunday players. And these two are projected to be top two as of right now. That can change. Obviously, we got a lot of time left there. But like, as far as these two teams go, they don't have any weaknesses. They could both throw the ball, they could both run the ball, they both stop the run, they both stop the pass. Like there is no weaknesses on either of these teams. I think the difference potentially could be first and foremost, Austin. It's one of the loudest stadiums. Will Howard said that last year was the loudest stadium he's ever played in. And then also neither of these teams have any weaknesses, but Oregon has a lot more of those five star guys. So will that be the difference in this game?
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A
And that'll be a story for Oregon forever and ever. Amen. You know, they'll have more five star guys because of obviously the backing. But what Dan Lanning's been able to build with how far away this place is, honestly, when you get there, it's gorgeous. I mean, they got new buildings being built next to new buildings. So there's like new buildings. Oh no, not new in. New enough. Let's make new buildings. And that is what it is. It is beautiful once you get out there. But when you talk about how far away it is and them having to handle the travel for every one of their games, you know, we're listening to James Franklin talk about going to ucla. Lincoln Riley talking about USC having to travel. It's like, well, we all knew this was going to happen whenever this became the Big Ten. And the ACC is going to have it take place as well. Dan Lanning has never complained about that at all. Dan Lanning is just so locked in. I enjoy the way he operates. I. I like the way his teams kind of fall in place. And I like the way Signetti operates too. AJ this guy is confident. He feels like he has to be the way that he is, I think. And obviously special teams making huge plays is going to be a big difference. You talked about them losing to Ohio State last year. Punt returner, ball will punt, fumbled a punt. And then all of a sudden Ohio State kind of turns that thing into what it turned into with them. But Signetti has this mantra of confidence and attitude that seems like it's going to be able to carry over. AJ There's a chance that what that happened to them last year isn't what happens to them this year in the big games.
- [136:04]
H
I think it's. I think it's more impressive in how they have started out this year. Coming off last year, remember, we talked a lot. Hey, okay, Sig's going to have to find a way to reload and do this all over again to continue to. To be, you know, to bring in the type of guys and to keep the guys there that you need. So, yeah, I'm very impressed. This is a huge game. I mean, obviously for Oregon, but for Indiana, it is like, hey, how good are we? And if we can go, think of Indiana goes into Oregon and gets a win like that changes the landscape of college football completely.
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A
Certainly in the Big Ten, which I'm looking at a couple guys, Iowa, Hawkeye right here next to Boston, Connor, and then a Penn State Nittany Lyon sitting down here at the end of the desk. And it's like, wait a minute, Steve. Indiana now definitely in the upper tier of Big Ten football. And the sustainability question has been answered for this year. Then we're going to ask it again next year. Just because it's new that Indiana's like this. But this type of stage is good for Signetti. I think anytime they get this opportunity is good for them, Steve.
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I
Absolutely. They just have to be better in this instance. Going back and watching them at Ohio State last year, their O line really struggled with going on silent count, IDing the defense with Noles with all those exotic blisses, especially on third down, and they got roughed up. They. They couldn't overcome. Ohio State just ambushed them. So I'm interested in that attempt back or if they change that plan. I think it's too loud to go on the clap, but when you look at Oregon, I could see them with the pieces they have, how well they played defensively on the road. That's. That's what it comes down to, Pat, when you look at these top teams, I think right now, Oregon, Miami, you know how State are in their own tier because they have shown they can go on the road and their defense dominates. And that's what I want to see out of Indiana. Their defense, defense is better this year, but this is a true test. If Indiana wins, they should be number one in the country. No, certainly.
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A
And you've said that about three teams now, and that's because we're so early in the season, but it feels like we've already known about who's who? Nick Road Cap is reporting that Signetti says we have a veteran team and the players have been around the block. They've been in games like this before. Boom, boom, Sig said. We've been there. We've done that. Okay. We got guys that have experienced this before. And our quarterback, he was in a couple big ones last year for Cal, so he understands the moment as well. We're excited about this year's team and opportunity, and I'm sure before this game kicks off, we'll hear more from Sig, and that's a part of Sig football, and that has made Indiana good. Let's go to another game happening this weekend that I think a lot of people assume game day would be at, because that is just kind of how it goes. Red river rivalry, Oklahoma in Texas. Matier. Matier. Steve, what should we be thinking as we head into, you know, down there at the Texas State Fair, one of the big ones?
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Yeah, it's all about material. If he's going to play. Pat, this whole thing flips on its head if he's going to play. I don't see it. Hearing how he just started gripping a ball last weekend. You know, Venables has played games. When he had Dylan Gabriel, he played it off like he was going to play in this game. Fresh off a concussion against TCU the week before. That doesn't happen last year. Hawkins starts in this game. Game not pretty at all. Hawkins starts last week. Not pretty at all. I, I know they won 44, nothing. But you go back and watch the tape against a bad Kent State team, it was not pretty. I still think the biggest difference in this game is Oklahoma's defense, what they are and, you know, in the tops in the country and scoring defense, the different guy in this day and age, Nil, where depth is a factor for everybody and a concern. Oklahoma's got plenty of guys on the D line, and that's what you want. Want in this kind of games. What text. Everybody's gonna talk about Arch and that, you know, his struggles. And I get it, five picks on the year. But that Sark offense, you got to be able to run the football. They can't run block or pass block. Florida ate him alive and, you know, and then it gets into his head because then it's two interceptions. There's nobody, there's nobody pressuring him. So you could tell he's starting to get the happy feet. To me, it's, it's, it's. Can Texas, you know, score on this Oklahoma defense? I trust Oklahoma more, but it's, it's, it's a rivalry game. The unranked team, when they're playing a top five team in this series, has had a ton of success, but it's, it's, it's up in the air right there. It's there for the taking. They blow if Texas puts it together, but I haven't seen it yet, and I trust Oklahoma.
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That game against Florida was ugly. And if Matier's playing, this guy is actual Superman. Go ahead.
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Deep. I know we got a lot of season left. Is there a contingency plan for Texas at quarterback if Arch continues to stink? And on the other side, we thought this Texas defense would be dominant as well. DJ Lagway finally had his best game of the season. What's going on with that side of the ball on Texas as well?
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Yeah, Florida's offensive line dominated from the start. D. But they, they really had a good attack, you know, running those zone schemes. I think ball is a stud as a running back and, and, and, and, and Lagway getting Wilson back or starting his first game. I mean, that dude, 6, 3, 2, 15 as a true freshman, that's a stud. I mean, catching the ball, carrying guys, that, that was the biggest difference in me. It was Texas, that they hadn't seen it from Florida and credit to Florida. I mean, you just can't, you can't put them away. But as far as Arch goes, I believe there's way more concerns on that offense than the quarterback position position. And I get it. Everybody wants to talk about the quarterback position, especially with Texas because of the last name. But again, that offensive line has to tighten up. You, I don't care who's. You put another quarterback back there, they're only gonna, you know, go backwards because they're not, they don't have a chance to succeed. Tighten up the defense and get that offensive line going. Hopefully Baxter's back to run the football. He's, he's an all American when he's healthy. And the receivers got to separate better. They just haven't had it. I mean, we see how well golden has done at the NFL level and he was on in this wide receiver group last year, but he, he's, he's gone and these guys haven't stepped up. So I, I don't think there is a, I mean, there's guys obviously on the depth chart, but I think they got to tighten up everything else before they look at quarterback.
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A
Go ahead, Tom.
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B
Yeah, Mater obviously is huge because it is a huge drop off to Hawkins. But Steve talked about the Oklahoma defense. If it wasn't for Ohio State this would probably be the the best defense in the country. Okay, they are. Let's see here. Make sure I want to get it right. Number two in points. Number one in yards. Number one on third down number five vers the run. Number two versus the pass. Number two in sacks and TFLs. Florida sacked Arch six times last week. Florida now has nine sacks sacks on the season. Okay Oklahoma had ten sacks against Auburn in one game. They are second in the country in sacks and TFLs. Like yes, Matier Hawkins is huge but what if Texas doesn't score is is my point now their team total was over 21 and a half.
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F
I would.
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B
I would definitely lean towards the under on that unless they find some magic fairy dust this week and fix all their problems. But it's the Oklahoma defense that I that Steve has talked about and I think is definitely probably going to be the defense or the difference in this game because Texas was supposed to be the Oklahoma defense and they were until last week.
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F
Don't know what happened last week.
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A
Texas was Oklahoma defense last year. Oklahoma's defense with Venables feels like that was going to be good regardless Just kind of everybody's thoughts and then now you pair that offense mater what is his deal? Dr. Sh. Shin.
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B
He's the goat.
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A
Dr. Shin did a month and a half long recovery surgery in two weeks. Yeah, back in two weeks.
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C
Tough son of a.
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A
He ain't playing materials Cowboy brother. Hey dad got a Arbuckle's dad got a belt buckle won that wrestling steers okay that's offense coordinator got material getting an opportunity. These boys are tough tough built Oklahoma tough.
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C
That's right.
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E
I believe it.
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B
You know what sucks for the oh Texas.
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A
Wow.
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B
What sucks for the Oklahoma offense too. If Matier can't go they're 97th in the country and running the ball. So yeah, I'm not. I don't have a lot of confidence in either offense if Matier's out.
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A
How about Tone saying are they going to score a point now they're over under is 21 and a half. I'm wondering if they're even going to be able to get a first Don is what Tone's basically saying because of the D line and also Venables cooks on that back end. There's a lot of moving pieces. They are a smothering defense. Happened for some time. Go ahead Steve.
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I
This. This totals 42 and a half. It's the lowest this century in this game.
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F
Wow.
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I
42 and a half longest in the century.
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A
All right, let's.
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One quick thing, Pat. I worry about Mater. I get it. Oklahoma hates Texas. I understand that. But this is one game. You gotta have that guy for the rest of the SEC season. You, you can't, you can't run him out there and then he's out for the year. If you gets dinged up again, I just can't see that happening. Win the game with your defense and move on. That's got to be the goal for Oklahoma.
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A
If you listen back to you saying SEC season, you should be proud of yourself. That's a tough one with your accent. My accent as well. It's not easy. And you drop that thing right in the middle perfectly. You should be incredibly proud. Can't wait for that one. And also there's a huge one down in the sec. Obviously we just had a chance to go down there and celebrate Nick Saban getting, getting recognized for going into the College Football hall of Fame. Alabama is taking on Missouri. What do we need to know about Missouri As I feel like we told the Ty Simpson and Alabama story last week in pretty good detail and they get a huge win over Vandy.
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Yeah, and we, all these teams that we mentioned, we've seen them go on the road and, and you know, you know, we've seen, you know, them play against great competition. I don't know what to think of Missouri. You know, Drinkowitz does a great job with that offense. Offense, they throw a ton at you in the run game as far as eye Candy. But they're 109th in strength of schedule and you got Alabama coming in, who got their ass kicked at Florida State, went on the road and gutted one out against Georgia and then gutted one out with their defense against Vandy. I mean you were there. That game was up for grabs, man. Vandy went up and down the field in the, in the first half and they only came away with what, 14 points, two turnovers inside the 10 yard line. But that was Alabama taking it away from, from Vanderbilt and that was really impressive. So the question to me is Ty Simpson with this, was it fifth? Yeah, fifth ranked pass offense, averaging about 325 in the air. What does it look like on the road in an early start versus an unproven team? Who has a great running back in Ahmad Hardy? He's leading FBS with 146 yards a game. I just don't know what they to expect from Missouri. That's the tough thing about this one.
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A
Tom what do you expect from Missouri in this one?
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B
Yeah, I think it's similar to last week kind of with Bama and Vandy. It's going to be can Bama stop the run? Because Vandy came in last week averaging over 200 whatever yards a game. And they. And Bama, they held him. They held him to a decent amount. Obviously had the long rushing touchdown to start the game. But Mizzou, great against the run and great running ball. They are number one in the country and stopping the run. And Bama just got their run game going last week with Jam Miller and then they're number three in the country in running the ball. Steve talked about Ahmad hardy. He's got 700 some yards rushing already on the season. Number one in the country. So it's going to be can Bama stop the run? Because they're still 88th versus the run. And then that Bama defense, they've only given up seven points in the last two games. In the second half, they gave up seven. Seven to Georgia and none to Vandy, if I'm correct. So they've given up yards and points in the first half, but none in the second half. But Ty Simpson is. Is, I think the best player or the best quarterback. Pribula has been good out of the transfer, out of Penn State running and throwing, but Ty Simpson's been. Been incredible. So can Vandy or, sorry, can Mizzou stop the Alabama pass game?
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Ty Simpson was fun to watch live. He's later out there. You know, he's got good energy, he's got good juice. They got athletes all over the place and shout out to Kalyn deboer sitting in the pocket taking all the heat that he took certainly after the loss to Florida State. And now they look like they're ready to go on a run. That's Isaiah Horton right there. I believe he is just eye test walk by you. Holy shit. I mean, is that tight end? No, it's a wide receiver. He puts on ten pounds. He could be tight end. He could be. I mean, he is. They will. Everybody, everybody looks the part. Obviously it's Alabama.
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F
Yeah.
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A
And they're playing like it. Too good for them. Hey, a couple other stories around college football that the boys want to ask you about. Stanford. Steve, let's start with a member of the Penn State crowd, Super bowl champion AQ Shipley.
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B
Yeah, Steve, you just mentioned Bo down in Missouri and obviously hindsight's 20, 20, 20, and maybe they should have kept him based on how Drew Allers looked. But is there any noise Right now with Ethan Grunkmeyer maybe stepping in for Drew Aller because they're getting ready to play a Northwestern team that beat ucla. UCLA beat Penn State. They're blame it on the travel yet Dan Lanning traveled and won, so. Oh, just wondering, just curious about that.
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A
AQ's got questions about Penn State right now.
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C
Okay.
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I
I thought he had the answers for Penn State.
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A
Yikes.
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H
That's right.
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I
That's why thought he was talking.
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A
Hey, that's a good call, Steve. Y that's a good call. More problems, solutions. Unbelievable.
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I
Yeah, you know, I got to watch them practice Thursday when I was there. Aq and he does have the build of Prula and everybody goes back to what Prula looked like when he came in, saved the day against Wisconsin. And then you think about Kodal Niki, where he came from. And Kansas was the best when they had Daniels running that offense, you know, with, with a mobility and, and all the misdirection they run, you know. Yeah, Prabula probably looked better in that system. But then you go back to last week. The offense wasn't the problem. The defense got diced up non stop. I mean 270 yards UCLA ran for against Penn State, who I would bet on has every higher ranked prospect in the matchup. When you look at UCLA's offensive line against the defensive line in the quarterback run, kill them as you saw there with Nico. So I, I, I don't know what to think of Penn State because you get what you want, you battle all the way back. And when your backs were against the wall against the top team in the country in Oregon, and then you go out there and look like that against a winless team, they got to tighten up both sides. And that starts with the coaching staff. When you, when you look at it, you got to get this thing ironed out and, and what the defense looked like last week. James and Franklin's never lost this kind of game at Penn State. 24 point favor on the road. He's never lost those games. So that all this stuff is first that I think, you know, they got to get ironed out and we'll see.
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A
You think it's gonna work out or.
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B
Well, I saw the UCLA coach now has, has as many top 10 wins.
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A
As James, Franklin, Doesel.
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C
Jerry Newel's a good coach.
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A
Okay. The guy found out he was calling plays on Wednesday. Sore it was the first time had to call his dad, let him know, hey, I'm calling plays. He said this weekend. And he did and he, he did a fantastic job. It was one of the greatest stories of college football this past weekend. It reminded us all that even if it appears as if you have no hope, no optimism at all, just about to get absolutely bamboozled by greatness, and you are just a sack and a pile of shit, if that's how everybody is viewing it, you can win because UCLA beat Penn State. How many point, 24 point spread. Yeah, we should remember this as inspiration. The Cincinnati Bengals won four games the year before they went to the Super Bowl. Okay? So every NFL team can say, hey, ass wants the Super Bowl. And if your team is completely out of it already, like UCLA has been since before kickoff of the first game, okay, rude to say, reality of the situation, you can get a win over Penn State, you can get a win over the number one team in the country at one point, you can have a promising dub that can change the trajectory of your entire program. I heard UCLA got some more commitments. Really, all you need is one of those big James Franklin actually helping UCLA out, all of a sudden, out of nowhere, getting these big time wins. Because UCLA is in Los Angeles. True, it is in Los Angeles. As we found out from Big Ten media days last year when coach, Coach took his head. I mean, it was bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. UCLA football guys leaving. Why can't win there. Well, who's there next? Well, the way he described is it's in Los Angeles. That was all he really had to say about, okay, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. And then they just smack Penn State around. Just absolutely demoral.
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E
Well, it ended up being too far of a trip for James Franklin.
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A
Well, I'll tell you what, City of big lights out there, too. There's a lot of stats coming out about maybe not so much anymore.
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C
Well, yeah, which is a bummer.
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A
I don't like that.
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C
The question will be, and we'll look back on this moment. Moment is what's UCLA going to do when the Dolphins Fire Mike McDaniel and they hired Jerry Newheisel to be their newest head coach? And then you lose. How you gonna replace that guy?
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A
I don't know. I think you just bring actually Joey Molinaro in there and just tell him to be.
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C
Yeah. And he never left.
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A
Yeah. Never left his B. New Heisel. I don't know if you saw this aq, I got good news for you against Northwestern, Okay. You guys are honoring the 90s end zones with the paint job.
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B
Wow.
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A
Remember these days. You remember these days? Lavar Arrington jumping over people. This was in the end zone.
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B
They should have Never changed. That end zone. That looks really good.
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A
It does look really good now. I don't know what it looked like last week.
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H
The other one.
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G
What's the other one look like?
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A
I asked Bruce. Penn State football tweeted this out. They said, we're going to honor or something. Look at this. That's what they tweeted. And it was something about honoring tradition, basically, is what they said. There's no real other context, like what does it look like last week and when, what year, year exactly and all those things. But we do know it looks cool.
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B
That does look cool. They should keep that. I don't know if they actually had anything in the end zone for the Oregon game. I think it was just blank.
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A
Well, I walked across it. Gump. We walked across it. Right? We should have a video, actually. I'm trying to find the video right now.
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F
Huh.
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I
Is it the iconic white diamond stenciled with blue on the outside?
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D
I could be wrong.
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A
What do you mean? The. The whole entire pen. That's the.
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H
That's the chain.
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I
Yeah, that. That's a different font. They went. They went different font.
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B
Damn. That's dummy dog. I love.
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A
That's lit. They should sell shirts with that. Some new merch.
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I
They got new. They're going back to the uniforms, too, with the white collar.
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C
Holy. No way, dude.
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F
Yeah, that's sweet.
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H
That's what I played with.
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A
Yeah. There's pictures. There's pictures of him in magazines.
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C
That's right.
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A
You know, and white collar. Good for Penn State, too, I think. What was it a blue collar before? Yeah, right.
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B
It was something the blue didn't match. I heard the whole story this week. I literally listened to the video.
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A
What was the story?
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B
It was when Russell was making the uniforms. They were trying to make better uniforms. The blue on the collar didn't match the blue of the jersey. So the equipment manager said, hey, just put the white on there. Joe won't even notice. And then Joe approved it. So Joe knew now.
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F
Jesus.
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A
About. About the jersey in this case. Joe.
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I
Yeah.
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C
Okay.
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A
Big college football slate this weekend. Obviously, we got a big one in Oregon that we're going to be lucky enough to be on the grounds of in the morning, early morning over there. They always show up for us. Since I've been on the show, it's very cool. Pitch black, cold, probably a little bit of rain, and it's like a perfect setting for football and their crowd. Their students show up for us in a big way. Obviously, their mascot is electric.
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D
Yeah.
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A
I mean, absolutely. He's gonna do Something. It's gonna be a show. There's been live animals, I think a few different times whenever we've been out there. I.
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H
What kind?
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A
The duck. Which? Steve. Steve, I don't want to have this conversation. There are people listening. Obviously, this is live. Steve's fear of ducks is disgusting. Like, really think how big Steve is. Think of how big he is.
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H
Just kick him in the head, Steve.
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A
Exactly.
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I
I know, but I'm sitting down and the thing, they put it on the desk right next to me. And the thing's neck is longer than my arm. I don't know what it's gonna do. Man, he freaks out.
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A
That Aflac freaks me out. It ruins it.
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I
Just stares at me. He just stares at me. And I got all these guys chirping on the desk at me.
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A
Yeah. So whenever. Look, he is frozen right now. Now that completely froze him. You know, Steve, always good vibes guy. I think that's like one of Stanford Steve's thing. Always good vibes. Even when he's not a part of the conversation. You look over, Steve's in his area. He's either in ear chit chatting, saying something, or he's just over there. Good vibes. Good vibes. Soon as this duck shows up, bad vibes. Just immediately bad vibes. And it's through an entire commercial break. The ducks handler. Ducks handler is placing it right in front of him, petting it. And Steve is just frozen. Just like, don't. I don't even want to look at it. So we. He has ears in. Nobody else says, so we can talk directly to him. Right? Because our mics go to his ears and we just start like, shit talking him. Refute. You actually have a fear of these things that you actually are scared of.
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I
That duck, he was better behaved this year. But last year, as soon as he got on the desk, he was just eyeballing me the whole time. And I just.
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B
Just.
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I
I don't know. He. Yeah, he got in my head.
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A
You've been picking good. How'd you do this weekend? You've been two and one. Two and one. Two and one. 2 and 1.
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I
Yeah. 1 and 2.
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A
It was inevitable, Ste. It was inevitable. How Theo do. How Theo's picks do.
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I
Do we see 5 and 3? I think not terrible. His pickers have been awful.
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A
They don't have any spread.
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I
Like it's. It's bad. Like the best. I think six and three is the least.
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A
Yeah. But this has been a tough year. You've been doing well. It's been a tough year.
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I
I'm just saying you've been good. When you go on the island. That island.
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A
Come on, brother. I was looking for that too. The other everybody heard me in production meeting. Hey, is there any picks where everybody's on the same page, please? I'm looking to go the other way. Yeah, we got one here, blah blah, blah. And then somebody took it. I'm like, all right, sweet. But I'm certainly looking for this. Oh yeah, especially the way these sportsbooks have been winning, brother. Not just in college, in the NFL. They've been really winning. They've been kicking the out of all of us. That's why we'll continue to listen to you. We appreciate the hell out of you, brother. Can't wait to see you in Oregon.
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I
Appreciate you guys.
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A
Hey, how would you describe Oregon.
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I
Green?
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A
I'll see you over there, ladies and gentlemen, stand for Steve. It is beautifully green. I mean very lucky.
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B
Might get a little early fall foliage.
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C
Oh man.
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A
God. You land in a postcard over there. Like getting there long?
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B
Sure.
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A
Okay. It's a long flight over there. But then once you get there, we get there as the sun was rising and it's like you got early. The trees are just beautiful. It like it is, it's majestic. I think that's the only way to really describe it. But it takes a long time to get there. But once you're there, it's beautiful.
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B
It's worth it.
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E
You're longer going or coming back.
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A
Go. Going, coming back. Jet stream west to east, jet stream east to west. Got you don't know what you're fighting because this fucker's invisible. And it can pop up out of nowhere. You can have a four and a half hour flight, that becomes a six hour flight. And you know, on the flip side you can have a five hour flight that becomes a 3. 45, 354, 415. Maybe on the way back, west to east, you can really steal some time coming west to east, east to west, though you have no idea what you're into until you get up there, there. And then all of a sudden it's like, have we moved? Why is this map say we're still in a, oh, we got 800 knot headwind or something like that. It's like, did we not know it just came out of nowhere to come from. Well, that's a bigger question. What does happen? Yeah, how do these things, you know. But it was cold this morning, Agent. Was it cold over there in Ohio?
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H
Yeah, it was pretty chilly.
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A
Feels like we're starting to get into.
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E
Oh yeah, the best.
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A
Starting to feel. Yeah. Are you guys doing fires over there already? Are we cutting. Cutting the grass at night? Night.
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H
We love fires. I love. I love walking around and smelling people that have like smelling a fire going on somewhere in the neighborhood.
- [160:05]
E
That's the best.
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A
Yeah. A little bonfire smell is always good, isn't it? Oh, you just. Oh, you imagine just a good little crack of the logs then going inside after being there and being the one that just for some reason the smoke was just blowing directly at the whole time.
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C
Like for the next three days.
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A
The whole time. Yeah. How come I just got up and moved the other side of this fire and this motherfucker just keeps falling. Sorry. Everybody else having a good time. I hope we're all happy here. I'm getting fucking hot box by the goddamn fire. But smell amazing. You do smell. It's that time of year. It's a great time of year. Football is obviously awesome. It provides so many amazing things. There's one particular position in football that rarely gets the credit or the accolades that it deserves. So we have a program and a show here that likes to celebrate. Celebrate the big guys, the overlooked guys, the underappreciated groups of NFL teams. That's why every single week we've been giving out awards for the top five performing lines, offensive lines each week in a segment called in the Trenches with AQ Shipley. Let's go and see who are the top five performing offensive lines from week five. Top five, week five. Number five, Detroit Lions.
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B
The Detroit Lions. And let me tell you something. Defenses are, are doing a great job trying to reign on the parade of offensive linemen, but Detroit continues to show up after week one. Let's take a look at this play right here. We're going to get three tight ends after they motion over Brock, right? We got duo. The best run play in football, in my opinion, because we get downhill, we beat people up. We got double team, double team. Graham Glasgow. Look at that. Backside cut bodies on the floor. Get down the field. Zero sacks allowed for this. This group this week.
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A
Dave Montgomery obviously returning home, playing in front of his sister for the first. First time in a long time. That was really cool moment to see, but it feels like Sonic and knuckles are a great one, two punch. But this offensive line is creating holes. Aim biker run through. Is that kind of the conversation?
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B
We're getting to that point. I mean, listen, they. They were down Taylor Decker this week, but I love what they did this week with the three tight ends. Look at that rock technique by Brock Wright. I love it. I love.
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A
What a cut by Mon.
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B
So good.
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A
What were they calling them again? Fox? Well, week one they didn't really show up up so instead of Sonic and Knuckles they were calling them Ass and Cheeks and none of us liked it. But that seems like a really long time ago now so we don't need to be doing that. Aj that's what they were calling them up there in Detroit. They were saying these two disrespectful.
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H
Disrespectful. I feel like especially with how great they were. So Foxy. Hopefully they continue playing well and they don't go back to that because that would be a shame.
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A
You don't want them to go back to Ass and Cheeks?
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H
No, I don't want Foxy's little, you know, his heart to be broken. I think that would really hurt him.
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A
I think Foxy was a part of the group calling him Ass and Cheeks. I mean I definitely think you are did a little bit but yeah, we won't be going back to that. Foxy said peanut butter and jelly ass in cheeks.
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D
Exactly.
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A
These guys, we need to get over it. What a cut there by Montgomery. Also threw a touchdown. Was he a quarterback in high school? Yes.
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H
Had to be, right?
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A
He was. I think I heard that during the commentator was saying like back in his home city where he was a quarterback. I think he was probably a five star quarterback if I had to guess. Yep. And he threw a touchdown last year as well.
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C
I hope he wasn't a five star quarterback.
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A
Why?
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C
He's with Iowa State. That would just be. Could have went somewhere, you know, Ohio State, Alabama, something like that. Iowa. It maybe it worked out for him obviously.
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A
But hey, go Cyclones. By the way, they own that state, don't they? Football wise two years in a row.
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C
No, they don't. They're doing good right now and I want them to keep winning which is why it breaks my heart. Cuz we need a team from Iowa. You can't be going out and losing to Cincinnati.
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A
Cincinnati's good football team felt stinky. Felt stinky there a little. I was very confused. And since he just handled them, Rocko Beck tried to make a run. Let's go back to the top five performing offensive lines a week five. Number four, the Denver Broncos. Whoa. A lot of talk about their defense coming into the season. Bo Nicks another year offensive line feels like you are a big fan of them.
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B
Yeah, they're starting to play really well too. And I think Shawn Payton's doing a fantastic job play calling. He is setting up the sequence very, very well right now. And let's take a look at this. We're going to send the fullback in motion, make it seem like we're going to go zone left. Guess what?
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A
What?
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B
We're going to bend this back. Bring the fullback back. Insert. Look at quinn, miners and McGlinchey on the double team. They brought the fight to Philly. Most physical team hands down in this game was the Denver Broncos.
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A
I like that the Denver Broncos offensive line continues to be good. Sean Payton said before he got the job, after he got the job, before he went into the building, we were talking to him at radio Road, super bowl and AQ just immediately walks right up to him and goes, you need to fix that offensive. And he goes, I know. It's like my number one thing. Wasn't that his number one.
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F
That was the number one thing.
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B
And he brought everybody in. They're all new people. Every single person is new from when.
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F
He got the job.
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A
I appreciate though that he understands that the offensive line is going to make or break you. Like that was the thought. Now obviously he gets Bo Nix in the first round, who he likes, he fell in love with throughout the entire combine draft process. But his number one focus, like we need an offensive line, feels like you need to have the big boys up front if you want to do anything good. The game is one in the trenches. That's why number three performing offensive line from week five, the Dallas Cowboys. What? Two, two and one. They got a tie. They do. They got a tie. Congrats to the Cowboys. Not a lot of conversation about them in their offensive line as of late.
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B
That one tie could be huge. But let's talk about this offensive line. Four of five offensive line starters down still ran for 180 yards. And it starts with Clayton Adams. Clayton Adams, if you remember, he, he was Arizona's run game coordinator a year ago. They had a very good run game. Big loss goes to Dallas.
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C
Guess what?
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B
Dallas's run game last year, not very good. Now very good. He's an instrumental part on why they are succeeding. Look at this trap play right up the middle again. We just got to get you to the next level. We break some tackles again. You can't control who you're playing on defense. But the New York jets stink and they looked really good against them.
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A
I love the fact that the Dallas Cowboys, they can still go win it all.
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B
They could.
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A
They could go win it all. Think about what the conversation was about Shawty just a few weeks ago. And then George Pickens being able to do what George Pickens is doing. Offensive line having to move some pieces around. Still have success. Good luck down here, shorty.
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B
Yeah, they also have, like, kind of a budding young rookie. The Flournoy kid. I think he had like 110 yards.
- [166:03]
F
It was kind of like his opportunity. Now that CD Lamb's gonna be out for.
- [166:06]
B
For a little while, like, if he's good. All of a sudden, him picking ZD When CD Gets back, if they can.
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A
Hang on, they're going to be a problem. The Dallas Cowboys. McCarthy say he liked this team. He did. Coach Carthage. I like the team. I like locker room. Adding George Pickens obviously adds a little fire in there. I like what they're doing. He obviously would know it better than anybody. And holy hell. I don't think any of us could have guessed this team.
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E
Well, one. A couple of us could have.
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A
Why is that?
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E
One out here, one in the back could have guessed.
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A
Oh, so you're saying the team they played against certainly provided an opportunity to get an award for being one of the top performing teams in the league. Ladies and gentlemen, congratulations to the Carolina Panthers.
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F
Wow.
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A
Records two and three. Number two performing offensive line in the league coming out of week five. How comes that?
- [166:49]
B
How come AQ 239 yards rushing, 206 for Rico Dowdle.
- [166:54]
A
Oh, they got the Rico act tossed, Adam.
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B
And let me tell you, this play is not blocked perfectly. If you watch this single, this is in the trenches.
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A
What are we highlighting?
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B
Just because here's where I'm going to go. Let's watch this. So first of all, the combo on the left's incredible. Let's watch the center, center and right guard get split. I talked to Harold Goodwin, their offensive line coach. He was mad that this happened. But if you look at that. If we can rewind that one more time, watch the center as he comes back, puts a little kill shot up on this linebacker. But guess what? Knocks off that defensive end that was going to make the play. Because he comes back, back again. The front side shade lost in the sauce.
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E
Boom.
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B
Stops the defensive end because he runs into the center. And that gets the home run.
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A
He blocked three guys.
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B
Wow.
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A
One guy blocked three guys. He didn't do it perfect. But every good man get one, Every great man get two, maybe even three, says the center, whose name is.
- [167:43]
B
I got it. I got it. Cade Mace. They're onto their third center. Onto their third center. Damn that. Onto their third right guard, too. Harold Goodwin. Joe Gilbert. You guys remember Joe Gilbert doing a good job with their offensive line. Down there. Ton of injuries. Robert Hunts out. There's also bicep injury.
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A
There's also a watering hole down there. What's the name of that watering hole? I got the hoodie. Remember the. The bar down there. And then Charlotte, I got the hoodie. They sent it to me. Dale Jr. No, that Dale Jr. Got good. He had a good place. I don't know if it still does. If he does, you need to get a whiskey. River maybe is what his place is called. That was right near the how at the Moon, which was Dueling Piano Place, which had a bridge that connected to the hotel I was staying at. And I'll tell you what, that was way too easy of access for me to be able to get there and get out. I forget the name of the place.
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B
Down Charlotte.
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A
Yeah, it's. It's Joe G. Goes there, drinks all their beer, of course. And he said, hey, we watch your show in there once in a while. I'm like, coach, that's awesome. And then he sent me a sweatshirt, and it's a great sweatshirt. It's like a light blue one. I forget the name of it. God, I feel like the bar or something. Yeah, I forget the name, but I. I wore it. It was very nice to them, I guess. They got great cold beer down from 11. And I'll tell you what. Charlotte, good city.
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B
Oh, yeah, Like Carolina.
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A
Carolina Panthers. Being good would be great for that city. Like any of their teams. Being good would be great for their city. Charlotte is a great city. Good hosting city.
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E
Great city. I was there 2011 for one year. Great. I can imagine how much they. They've grown and how much better of a city now. And to that point when that was Cam's rookie year and like, they had a good stretch when he was there where that city was buzzing. Obviously, you know, Carolina, you got a good football team, they're gonna show up.
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A
I think it was a lot of rooftop stuff down there in Charlotte. From my recollection. I spent some time in the off season down there a few different times. Had a couple friends that lived in that city. A lot of West Virginia people head down to Charlotte, it shuts off at like five, six o' clock because it's a banking city. But then there's like a lot of. Of rooftop stuff that kind of happens and then has a good vibe. Like Charlotte has a really good vibe. Would be cool if their team was good. Sounds like through their offensive line they got a chance. Congrats to Tepper. You know, much different times now. Jerry Jones is Doing stuff to fans.
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C
Exactly.
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A
Well, he meant to.
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C
You're thumbs.
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A
A.J. did you hear that? He meant to give a thumbs up or maybe a pointer. Even finger just pops out there every time.
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H
I think that holds up.
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C
You think they.
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H
They shave off 100k of that? Fine.
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A
Maybe. I. I think he would love to defend himself in that court. Now, I. I know what you've done with a couple of the other guys that have been in here. For me, it's very reasonable. I'm almost 90 years old. You. You try to put your thumb up when you're 90 years old. Maybe every once in a while with the life you've been through, that middle finger just follows it. You know what I'm saying? You never know what that person was saying to me either. I don't have that on camera. He said a lot of bad things about me in my family. Isn't he a big Eminem guy? That's how Eminem does in the movie.
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B
I thought that was the whole entire reason.
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A
Everybody in 3. 1. 3 mile.
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B
He was always a thumbs out.
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A
There's a chance. I mean, Jerry Jones, I think he throws a multitude of middle fingers.
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C
I would assume so.
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A
I think he. I think he's got a lot in his bag. I think he could drop that thing sideways on you. I think he'll take that thing out. Oh, what's this?
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C
Oh, pop out of the pocket, Michael.
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A
You know, the people that do the makeup, they're like, oh, wait a second, let me check. How about that one right there? And then bang. Let me go ahead and get that. Then the. You know, that's one. I think he probably has an abundance of use, if I had to guess. That's why not knowing you're doing it is. He's an expert.
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I
We.
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A
That's a. Maybe he did lose that fastball. The middle finger fastball.
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B
Thought of these old games are these days.
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A
Feels like it, doesn't it?
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B
It's a bummer. Not really.
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A
But I mean, life.
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B
Time passes.
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A
Damn, why you punish me? Can you think about tomorrow? And all the pain and sorrow Running free? Cause tomorrow's just another day And I don't believe in time. You ain't no friend of mine. But time gets everybody. That's basically what that song is all about.
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E
Undefeated.
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A
There's a couple things in this world. Time is certainly one of them. Let's talk about the number one performing offensive line in week five. In the trenches. The Washington commander.
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B
Yeah. Wow.
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A
AQ Shipping, simply. How come the Washington commanders are number one performing offensive line and where are the Indianapolis Colts? We just beat the Raiders by fucking 100.
- [172:12]
B
Yeah, they didn't run the ball very well, and they had Max Crosby and the boys on the other side stopping the run, but they had touchdowns. He had 60 yards and averaged less than 3 yards of carry, but who's counting? But the commanders commander's really good. Cliff Kingsbury in his bag, as usual. One of my favorite plays I used to run when Cliff was there. If you watch Zach Ertz bluff the end, climb up, does a great job locking up the linebacker. Watch, watch Tyler B. Otis, Chris Paul with the kick out. Be honest around, seal the edge. How easy is that big gaping hole.
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A
Between the sideline and any member of the Chargers there?
- [172:45]
F
Wow.
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A
Was this all game like this?
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H
So they screw aq. Explain that. How is that Derwin James out there on earth?
- [172:51]
B
That is Derwin James outside. That's not on earth. Ertz gets inside and then right here.
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H
That screws him, though, because if you got.
- [172:58]
F
He's got him man to man.
- [172:59]
H
Okay, I got him. I got. Got him. He goes into I. I still think he may be running the route, and I. It makes you take yourself out of the play and you're out leveraged already right here, Both two guys.
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B
That's exactly what this tight end bluff does. Whenever you have a tight end, you do not want to put him on the defensive end. So you bluff, you send him inside. That takes Derwin jumps because you can see him stacked right there over top of earth. He's got him in, man. It sets up the block for Bish, and everything is all downhill from there.
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A
That's actual chest there. Okay. Like, I. I rolled some Jiu jitsu with Matt Matrione and Chris Lytle, and I don't think Matt Matrione is known as like, a good jiu jitsu roller. I don't think people would say this guy's big strength is Jiu jitsu. I don't think he would say that. We rolled. I tapped out. End of the story. Long story short, I tapped out four times in a minute. Okay. It was not. It ended with both my arms being broke, but at one point, I thought I was doing pretty good. Good. I thought I had him. Like, he's a big lad, obviously. Former New York Giant football player from Purdue. Then he goes on to ufc. He has a great career. And then he also went into. Was that when he. He knocked out the Russian guy?
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B
Oh, yeah.
- [174:03]
C
Strike Force or whatever.
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B
Oh, no, Bellator.
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A
It was he. Great career from around here. And we're rolling or whatever in the basement of this house. That was a gym that was very. I'd say gritty is. Is a good way to describe it. Who knows how many bones have been broken there? And I thought I had him. And then all of a sudden he would just like stab right underneath my ribs. Like, he would take his fingers and stab, which would make me automatically move like this. And as soon as I move like this, he puts his arm right around. It's like he's doing three things to my body just for me to adjust. That's what that play is doing right there. You're forcing Derwin James down, giving the leverage immediately to the guard that's pulling there. It's. Yeah, the center that. That's pulling. It makes it an easy block for him. Like he already made the block. It's like that's actual chess. That's like actual setting things up and they have to react that way. Like whenever he's stabbing underneath my ribs, I don't know how they don't. My body naturally goes, ah, just like a little bit. And all that half inch or centimeter took. Boom. He got me on the other side. Derwin James steps in one foot. Even if it's not as far as he did on this particular play, it makes the life a lot easier for that center. And this is what you chitchat about with play colors and play designers, like setting the offensive lineup for success. Right? Isn't that kind of this entire conversation.
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B
Work smarter, not harder? I mean, and the good coordinators are finding ways to do it. And again, the other thing that's not talked about enough either here is when they send that guy in motion. AJ you know this debut, you know this right? When they go that now the tight ends by himself over here, that's called one by three. So everybody else is to the opposite side of the field. There's only one contained guy, and that's Derwin.
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E
You know, he's in man coverage. Like AJ Said, when he's going down that crack block, you got to cover it like a crossing.
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A
Here's the top five performing offensive lines of week five. Congrats to Washington. Commanders picking up the throne. Carolina Panthers big time win against Miami Dolphins lands them at number two in the top five. Then Dallas Cowboys. Good for them. Four new pieces at the offensive line staring into trenches. Celebration. Then Denver Broncos and Detroit Lions wrap up the top five. Aq. That's a cool photo. You with the boys flanking you there. Thank you for spotlighting the big boys and letting us Know who's good, who's ass and who's going to maybe go on a run if they end up on this particular list.
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B
Absolutely. The boys played well this week. And the interesting thing is you don't have a clear cut. Number one, number two, number three like we did last year. It's something different every week. But how well the. The offensive line plays is how well the team's going to play.
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A
Well, the Colts obviously best team in football and they are somehow.
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B
They're scheming it up. They're scheming it up.
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A
Keep put that that somehow. A.J. do you see him? I don't see him.
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D
They're up here.
- [176:31]
H
You know, is it. Are you like the harshest critic because it, you know, it's your old squad and you don't want to have to like pump them up and be like a homer.
- [176:38]
B
No, I actually, I. I love their group. I think they're a top five offensive line in the league for the whole season. I just didn't think they were top five worthy.
- [176:45]
A
This week just took on Max Crosby and the boys and won by 100.
- [176:48]
B
So they were in the backfield most of the game.
- [176:50]
A
Well, Max looks and they also. So cool, by the way.
- [176:52]
F
So cool.
- [176:53]
A
His shoes. Awesome.
- [176:55]
E
So good.
- [176:56]
A
Everything. The swag is incredible.
- [176:58]
H
Get him out of there now.
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A
Where Max? No, he's a Raider. He. That's like a big part of why he hates so many people because people are saying he needs move on. And then it's like, no, you're a Raider. You're a pillar guy. He is the perfect Raider, by the way.
- [177:10]
B
Yeah, he's the perfect Raider. I mean, and maybe it is fun. Like we should talk to Miles Garrett. Like, going 1 in 1 in 16 is probably.
- [177:18]
F
It's just one of those things.
- [177:19]
B
Like, don't you want to win a football game? You know, and when we're talking about old guys losing it, I don't know if. I don't know if we can just let Pete Carroll slip. Guy was talking a lot of junk about winning games every single year before the season started.
- [177:35]
F
Now they're 1 and 4.
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B
And his pony, Geno Smith, the real Hooper, if you will, after week one looks like absolute shite, man. If you run back to Tyler Warren, by the way. Holy, I forgot about this. You run back to Tyler Warren. Touchdown. You see who's covering him, right? Trey Tucker, their leading receiver this year, is covering Tyler Warren on his touchdown on Sunday.
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H
If we run.
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A
If we run that play, what you say?
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B
Number 11, Trey Tucker.
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F
Correct.
- [178:02]
B
Oh, Tucker, is he changing to number one? Okay, good.
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F
Thank.
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B
Good.
- [178:05]
A
Jeez Louise.
- [178:06]
B
I saw that today.
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A
That was Trey Tucker.
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C
First second.
- [178:10]
A
I thought we all missed this until today. Right? I thought it was Trey Tucker.
- [178:15]
B
Okay, good.
- [178:15]
A
Okay. Travis Hunter obviously going. Me too.
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B
Thank God. Who is that? Jeremy Chin? Yes, that's Jeremy Chin.
- [178:21]
A
But on that note, look at the line. Put this screenshot. Don't press play, just put. Look at that.
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I
Wow.
- [178:26]
A
What are you talking about?
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H
Pocket queen. Pocket, pocket.
- [178:30]
A
Best teaming ball can't crack.
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B
I do think they're the best team right now on honestly.
- [178:35]
A
I like that. I like that. That's good news. And the good news is I've been hyping him of his best team for the last three years. So it's not like I can jinx if I continue to talk about them being good. I've already done it.
- [178:44]
B
No, they're good. You're still first to the key.
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I
You're just a little late.
- [178:47]
A
Yeah, I just a little early. Joe Naru. I was Joe Nardo and I was forecasting. Joining us now is a list of defenses that are great and then a few that are terrible. It is time to go. Everything db, good D, bad D with Darius Butler now it seems like D butt knows ball.
- [179:07]
E
Yeah, it kind of turned up perfectly what con man was just talking about with Geno. He's been struggling this year in Vegas, throwing a bunch of picks. Think nine picks on the year now too this week. And up top we got Makai Blackman. We got him. He was last year he was with the Vikings. He got an opportunity this year to play a lot of football because of the injury to Jalen Jones. They brought up Xavier Howard. That didn't quite work out. So he's got back in the lineup. Got a big time interception here. Here we got cover two trap. So this is a trap corner. He's really triggering on that number two receiver. So if you run it back to the beginning for Geno Smith, he sees split safety, maybe a cover 2. If this receiver just sits between the flat defender and the hook curl defender, we can hit that in zone coverage all day. But instead he triggers it. This is that Lou Anne aroma defense. Little massage dodges in certain coverage. It triggers that, picks it off, almost takes it to the crib. Gets close with a big time play and a big time game. I mean this was a straight belt to ask. 40 to 6, didn't give up any touchdowns. Got a little blitz off the slot as well.
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A
Boom.
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E
I mean he rarely in the NFL as a db. Do you get to a point where you're almost waiting for an interception. Like he jumped that and he was literally waiting for Geno to put it right between the two and the five. And he did big time play by Black.
- [180:22]
A
He knew exactly where they were going.
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E
Two, nine. I'm sorry.
- [180:24]
A
Blackman actually early in the game kind of lost his footing in the turf and somebody got a big reception on him and it was like, man, who. Who was that over there? It was Blackman. And then later in the game, obviously getting this pick, it was like you could tell that Blackman was like, damn, I can't believe because I tripped, somebody got something on me, got back for the team. I think it was great to watch. And this defense is special.
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B
Special man. Yeah.
- [180:46]
E
Defense is humming whenever you hold. I don't care who you're playing against. We talked about it earlier with one of the long runs. I don't care who you're lined up against. The NFL, if you are the better team, like you should show up and beat the out of them. And to the coach credit, you put up that point differential early with the AFC South. I think the rest of the division kind of riding our coattail because we beat the dog out of the Dolphins to open up the season and then beat the dog out of the Raiders. And that's what you're supposed to do. If you are a good football team that considers yourself a contest contender.
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A
And I think we are. Here's a couple teams that are certainly trying to get into that conversation.
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E
Yeah, trying to get into that conversation and trying to get a win. You got to get a win week in, a week out. And the Saints didn't have one coming into this game. And Jackson start Jackson dart in this offense. This team started off hot. But a big time interception by Kool Aid McKinstry. This was actually his second interception. This is a cover three fire zone. So you're going to rush five and then you got 300 knee three deep on the outside. It's pretty much man to man coverage. And it's just a great press rep. So great that the receiver quits on the ball. And you never want to do this with your quarterback, especially young quarterback who's trying to find guys on the outside that he can have some confidence in. So he got his ass jammed up. And you'll see it even better from the replay. Receiver just stops running. Kool Aid dives and makes a phenomenal catch. A big time catch by Kool Aid. AJ Secure this first win.
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H
You're hanging your young guy out to dry. Yeah, absolutely. I feel for the quarterback there, man. Yeah, at least Great play though.
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A
At least break it up, you know, that's like a battle and at all. He didn't think he was getting that ball, obviously with how covered he was. Jackson Dart said, let me go ahead and let this thing fly. Incredible reaction time by Kool Aid, right?
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E
Yeah. Big time player.
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A
That'd be so much fun to be that. Yeah, Phil, that'd be so cool to be that athletic. Just that quick of a reaction time too.
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E
Good ball skills, man. And you can never, you know, sometimes in certain play progressions, pass progression, AQ will notice certain receivers may not anticipate getting the ball based on the coverage of where guys are on defense. We saw it, it was a talking point with The Eagles and A.J. brown with the. Oh, he stopped running or he slowed down. And it's one of those things that don't show up until it shows up. The one time you slow down the route, the quarterback takes a chance and throw it to you. So I'm sure he heard this a lot from whoever his receivers coach is, from the head coach, I'm sure. This is probably play on the big screen in the team meeting. You can't leave your young quarterback out dry.
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A
Top left corner there it had Dallas 30, New York Jets 14. Just a drumming as the Giants are throwing up another pick. And a guy's also. The New York jets getting killed up here. Just New York people watching the game. Just got a little twofer here for you. Don't you worry about it. Okay, what do we have next?
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E
Next we got another big AFC east matchup. We all watch this one. This is a big moment in the game too. Right now the patriots are up three and the bills are right high red area. So 1310. And now you got Josh Allen, one of the best quarterbacks in the National Football League. So defensively you got kind of man to man coverage, but you got two. If you let it run a little bit, you have two like low rat defenders. And these rat defenders also can act as like spies on Josh Allen. So you see like the two linebackers around the hash marks. If 17 was to tuck the ball and take off, they would be in pass coverage, obviously. But when he takes off the run, they would trigger to go and tackle him. But here, Marcus Jones does a great job knowing that he has help over the top. So once he dropped back and get ready to throw, he knows, boom, foot in the ground, undercut it, boom. And make it dive and catch. I mean, Marcus Jones obviously Has phenomenal ball skills. Great returner. The Patriots as well. It's a big time play. You got to make these plays. You know, when you have a corner like Christian Gonzalez, who's not going to go get a bunch of targets or Carlton when you're in there, you're going to get work in there. So make opportunity. Make, make the best of your opportunity. That's what Marcus Jones has been doing on defense and specialty. I wonder if we see him on offense at all this year.
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A
Red zone turnover. Crazy. That's huge for Josh.
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E
Game changers.
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A
This is like three, four years ago for Josh Allen. Yeah, that this is not. He clearly didn't know that he was going to be there, did he? Was that a no looker? Was he looking that off trying to move somebody?
- [184:34]
E
I think he was looking, but it's just so much, if you just pause it there, like it's just so much for a quarterback. Even before you know those two line well, Gonzalez and then Spillane, I think that is bites up on that low crosser before that, it's just so much color. Like quarterbacks really see color. You see those blue jerseys and then you say, okay, I know, let me just try to throw him to a spot. So it's just a great job by Jones because sometimes when you're outside leverage like that, you're guarding an inside breaking route, it's tough to do. But knowing he has help, I think that made him, gave him a little more confidence to undercut that and go make a big time play on the ball.
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A
Oh no. He's looking right at it. Right? He's staring it down.
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B
Yeah, I think, yeah, the mark.
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A
He looks so cool.
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B
Marcus Jones to diva's point is the one that like if, if there are deep balls or, or passes downfield, they're not going on gonzo or Carlton Davis. Marcus Jones is the guy that they're trying and like it. It's been unbelievable. This is why the Patriots defense is, you know, top three defenses defense in the NFL right now because of how good they can cover and then you know, they're like second in pressures. It's one of the best units in the NFL.
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A
God, it feels good to be on good D, doesn't it Connor?
- [185:37]
B
It feels, it feel. It feels real good to, you know, not be coming in here and just having to eat bad D every day.
- [185:44]
A
Every day. Every day.
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B
I don't like eating bad.
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A
No, it's good.
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B
Dude, I don't want to watch that.
- [185:51]
E
The defense is going to be completely different. Different whenever a Guy like Christian Gonzalez plays now, he won't be on like good D a bunch because he doesn't get the ball production I got. He doesn't get a bunch of interceptions because quarterbacks just don't throw. They don't test them often, but his, it helps the other players when they make those big time plays. Now, we saw this same route from the same offense with Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. They've made a bunch of touchdowns, made a bunch of money running this route like a follow route. Once again, the same one we saw from the tip ball from Makuba earlier in the year. You'll see 87 moving around pre snap. The Jaguars are ready for the route. They're anticipating the route. And Devin Lloyd, A.J. you can kind of speak to, I guess, what he's seeing and what he's doing here with this fake blitz and then dropping into the window and picking this off.
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H
Yeah, look at the double A gap. The end zone view shows it better. But yeah, you got linebackers, you're reading the center. So you're both blitzing, you're both a gaps. You see them up there, there. Whichever way the center turns, you engage quick while the other guy shoots, and then you pop out. This is exactly how you draw it up. Like this is clinic tape that you would show when you install this in the spring or summer. Whenever you do it, hey, pop in there, get to get his attention, then pop out, you get lost in the traffic and you know, this is best case scenario right here. Get in the throwing lane, catch it, take it to the house.
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A
Yeah. Being able to finish is obviously absurd, especially with how comfortable he looked immediately afterwards. He didn't look like he was dying for air as Tyquan Thornton almost catches up to him with a JHA block there. But let's talk a little bit about the center turning and then choosing to go the opposite direction. He fakes that he's going there just to keep the center's eyes. Is that what you're saying?
- [187:25]
H
A little bit, yeah. I don't know if we have the end zone or not, but you see them, they both attack the A gaps. And then when the center decides, hey, I'm turning right or left, you'll talk to your two backers, you'll sit there and you'll stay in the line. AQ has had to deal with this a million times. I'm sure you're sitting there and thinking, all right, hey, here you can. You'll start to, to listen and get an idea of which way the center is going to turn before the snap hopefully, but then boom, you're just reacting off of it. If he turns away from you, bam, I'm shooting. Try to get the quarterback, other guy pop out, get in the throwing lane. This is what we do.
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A
What is the center's decision making?
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B
So. So the protection call sends them one way or another. And so whenever you had teams like this, so like A.J. you know, whenever you try to pump block and you just go straight back and don't declare one way or another to try and screw him up. But the minute that Creed Humphrey goes left, you know that the guy to Creed's right is going to blitz and.
- [188:14]
H
The guy from the left do a good job. Creed did a good job of punt blocking here too. He didn't give it away. He didn't jump right or left right. He did a good job punt blocking too.
- [188:20]
E
You want to replay Foxy the TV replay. It might be a little. Might show a little.
- [188:26]
H
Look, he goes straight. Yeah, he goes straight back like that's a great job by those guys on D because Creed does a good job. That's the toughest thing to read when he does go straight back like this.
- [188:35]
E
Great play. And then you think the first thing I thought when cuz I saw this play, I'm like damn, how does a linebacker go 99 yards? Obviously you make a great move on Patrick Mahomes but if I'm thinking fastest wide receiver unit in the league right now is probably the Chiefs. You think of Thorton, Hollywood, Xavier and then none of these. Only Thorton was on the field. Was Thorton Juju but Thor was the only fast guy on the field. We talked about it yesterday with Hines Allen just making that one little bump because we're always taught with the interceptions, you know, you try to block the intended receiver and you block the quarterback. So just him peeking last minute 41, running his ass off and then peeking, just giving it like a little bump. He still caught up to him, but he didn't caught up, catch up to him early enough to punch it out. Great ball, great ball. Security through the goal line. Offensive players pay attention. But great job. Devin Lloyd coming off of his best probably game as a pro last week when he had two interceptions, a second a force fumble and won AFC defensive player of the week. Now let's get to some bad.
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A
Oh no, no.
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E
Somebody that you who mentioned the jets stinky, stinky defense earlier, that was you. I think you asked J.J. about it. This is an example of that because if we line up here, we know what the Cowboys were coming in as as good game or who they were coming in this game without was without CD Lamb. Right. So we all know target number one will be George Pickens. Especially when you're at this alum in the alumni section where you like to take shots. First and 10, we got George Pickens at the bottom and we got wide receiver two up at the top. So if the safety took pick inside, he drops down into the coverage. So that lets Dak Prescott know even though he's in play action, soon as he gets his eyes back. Okay. It's no safety help. Like zero safety help. So it is Sauce Gardner down there, one of the best, I think highest paid paid corner in the league right now. So yeah, Sauce island, leave him on the island. But it just doesn't make sense to me defensively. Why leave any of my players on the island with their best one on one downfield receiver if you don't have to. So they got two guys covering the other guy.
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A
Two man route too.
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H
Man route. We don't need to be. We don't need to leave a guy on an island with a two man route.
- [190:37]
E
Exactly. Two man route. You got a double team on one guy who's still open in the National Football League. And then you leave them one on one with Sauce down the field. And George Pickens does. You know what George Pickens does? We see this play. Anybody see you see this play on Madden and no. Okay, I'm going throw it up, number three and give him a shot. And that's what Dak does. Jeez, give us my opportunity to make a big play.
- [190:55]
A
Down aq. What are you giggling about? He's cackling over here. Aq. He's got the hot gut going on.
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B
I mean they, they are so bad right now. Yeah. Like, so that guy gets paid $100.
- [191:06]
A
Million and that's the, that, that's what he does. I just, I think what D. Bucks is saying though, it's not just Sauce, it's like the whole strategy, scheme, decisions. Aaron Glenn going over there with his defensive guy.
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E
Yeah. I don't care how good your player is, how good you are. Like if you only have AJ Mention it, it's only a two man route and like that's clearly wide receiver one. George Pickens is coming off his biggest game as a cowboy. So you're covered. Like it just doesn't make sense. And that, you know, some people say wide receiver wasn't a flag thrown. Like it's a lot of hand fighting both ways there with the receiver with the corner. So they didn't throw it either way.
- [191:37]
A
Aaron Glenn though, right? Don't we just. I naturally assume that he's going to have a good defense.
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C
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [191:42]
A
I think we all do.
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C
Probably.
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A
Jets fans, especially with all the talent.
- [191:45]
C
That the jets have on their defense. Like that has been the story the last several years. When Rogers got there, hey, this team might win the super bowl because their defense is already ready to go. And then even this year, like, yeah, we don't know about the offense, but we know the defense is going to be unbelievable. And they've looked like hammer dog shite so far.
- [192:01]
A
Oh, stop. They're building now. What were you guys MCDC's first year, Foxy? We were. We were 0 and 10, year one and then year two. We started out 1 and 6 and then after the 1 and 6, that's when everything all right. So we got some patience. I will say, and I shouldn't say it, but there was a time in the era with Aaron Glenn as DC where a big chunk of Lions fans did not like it him because they were letting a lot of points up on the defensive side. Well, people forget that. People forget Fox.
- [192:30]
C
They're remembering it now, though.
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B
Oh, they fired somebody, right? To like save his job. Yeah, there was.
- [192:36]
A
Yeah, DB coach. I remember that story. And then you got much better after that. Right away I said, come on in. Yeah, need you. Okay. And now we got a team that's been on the receiving end of the. In the trenches and now on the receiving end of the bad D award. It's tough to be a Giant fan. It feels like. Go ahead.
- [192:55]
E
Yeah, it is. And we all remember a guy who last year kind of took the NFL by storm early on, Rasheed Shahid. He is a big play waiting to happen and he right now he's kind of in that cut split. Once the motion comes over, he'll be in that slot. And this is another thing with as you're at this safety, Newbin is his name, right? Brad Bruce back here 27 down to the bottom of the field. He'll get put in a tough situation because now he's going to end up. And he's not too deep. He's probably about nine yards from the ball. So you let this ball snap. That's a lot of speed and you pause it right here. So now with a two man route once again to the left. As this safety, because you're pretty much on the island with this deep ball, you do have help to your right, you know, you have another deep safety to your right. So I would say keep your leverage to the outside and use your help. He does not. It's a good route. Give a little post corner here. Spencer Rattler makes a great throw under pressure. He's been playing well, but this is his first win as a starting quarterback and this is a big part. Once again, big time moment in the game. Down two points right here. The Saints good route, good ball. And that safety is put in a tough, tough spot.
- [194:03]
A
So what is that, aj? The guy took two wrong steps and all of a sudden it's a fucking house call.
- [194:06]
E
Yep.
- [194:07]
A
What a nightmare.
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H
It's a great rep. Look, if you look at this, like, all right, debunks, right? And it's easy sitting here and, you know, an air conditioning and talk about it, but look how much help he has if he stays outside leverage. Look at that, look at that. How many guys he got over there on the other side of the field. You got a lot of buddies over there to help. So I'm like, I gotta slide, I gotta stay outside somehow. Even though you think he's run that deep over, but bam, he snaps it off and here we go.
- [194:28]
E
And it's a good route concept. You run it back because that outside receiver that motions over, he holds that corner, corner to make sure that, you know, if I do under throw this a little bit, this corner doesn't help. But yet I don't think he helped himself from the get go. From his alignment, he wasn't deep enough and then he didn't start gaining depth. When you run, if you run it back to the beginning as a deep half safety, depth is your friend. You want to keep everything in front of you. So right now, one of the fastest players in the league and he's already on your toes like at this point, like you're already in trouble. Even if he just runs straight runs a post, I don't think either one of these safety had had enough depth. You only had really one wide receiver split out pre snap first down. You're probably thinking maybe a run play. Big bodies and boy, it turned into a big play fast.
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A
What's that route called?
- [195:12]
E
Post corner.
- [195:13]
A
Love it. The be so much fun to be able to do so many things that would be cool to be able to do. Just run a post corner right now, get from this, the line of scrimmage to the end zone. Just for the at full speed. Would be cool to be able to do at this stage of life, let alone make somebody turn around full spin in the middle of the field. He's a real weapon. We forget about him because the Saints have been such ass. What were you going to say? Con man?
- [195:36]
B
Yeah, exactly. Exactly that his stats next to Jameson Williams stats.
- [195:40]
F
And Jameson Williams is considered, you know.
- [195:42]
B
One of the best deep ball threats out there. I would guess he's better than him. And they've played the exact same amount of games. I believe actually he might have played one less game than Jameson Williams. And he's got more yards, more catches, more touchdowns.
- [195:55]
A
It's just situations, but he plays for the same situation.
- [195:58]
B
It's just like Max Crosby, man. What you're saying I was gear you can might as well Max Razzie to Detroit. I mean, that's the only place he.
- [196:06]
H
Wants to go from Michigan.
- [196:08]
A
Oh, let's bring him to the Colts. Yeah, him and lay out too lots.
- [196:11]
B
I thought, I thought the Colts like their guys.
- [196:13]
A
They do like their guys. We wouldn't mind some new guys though. We brought some new guys in during the off season. We just brought in new guy Pratt. Yeah, but he's. He's old guy to Lou. Have you seen what we've been doing over here? We're only getting better, AJ we're getting more lose guys in here. Py zones coming in.
- [196:28]
H
Some guys with some grit and some toughness too. I like it. Bringing guys in that. That will only just add to this great defense grit.
- [196:34]
F
And.
- [196:37]
A
Of course, speaking of grit and John, you deserve all the praise for the work you put in for that good deed.
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C
Bad maybe.
- [196:44]
A
Thank you. Listen, yesterday we had a guy bury four straight putts. So I don't want to put that on you, but I do think you should at least do a giveaway here. Okay. Because we're heading into week six of the NFL season. Week seven of college football already.
- [196:54]
B
Okay, let's do it.
- [196:55]
A
Okay. So let's enjoy it all. What do you want to do? You want to throw a football? You want to shoot a basketball?
- [197:00]
F
Let's throw a football. It's football season.
- [197:01]
A
It is football season. It is hump day too, as we all see. And on this glorious Wednesday, AQ Shipley can try to win 15 people $500. All you got to do is put that particular football baby Duke into that hoop right over there that has a chain net that has been ripped because people have been splashing on it. For instance, Evan Fox yesterday went 10 for 10 around the horn, five spots, three pointer, NBA three pointers, off the couch. First game, 10 for 10. We won the game 33 in the first round. First round.
- [197:34]
B
You also won seven of 10.
- [197:35]
A
I did pretty good, but let's not talk about that. Foxy. 110 for 10. All splashies. We're breaking the chain net over here. That's how good Foxy's become.
- [197:44]
H
I believe it. I mean, Foxy's a natural athlete. We've seen him. Is there anything Foxy can't do? Any sport?
- [197:48]
B
Yeah, any sport. That's tough.
- [197:50]
A
He quit Football, soccer, physicality. Soccer. I've never been good at soccer. Physicality. I think there's any physicality. There's. There's potential problems. Oh, yeah. I did quit football, too.
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B
Oh, yeah?
- [198:00]
A
How about wrestling? You think you'd be a good wrestler? Absolutely not.
- [198:02]
B
You ever play hockey? You grew up in Michigan.
- [198:04]
C
You must play football.
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I
Hockey.
- [198:05]
A
But I had to choose basketball. Hindsight, I probably would have been a better hockey player. What? What are you talking about?
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C
Pretty good jump shot, Foxy.
- [198:12]
A
I don't know. You should have. You should have committed to basketball more. Right. Got McJesus back here, especially in the world that we're in. But, yeah, he. He's been splashing. This thing, it's been going crazy. McJesus just took $8 million less a year.
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F
What are you doing?
- [198:24]
C
McJesus?
- [198:26]
E
Team God.
- [198:30]
A
I respect it so much.
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C
They better win.
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I
He went to them for the contract, too, to, like, get it done.
- [198:35]
A
Do you know how it makes the. The sport look, though?
- [198:38]
D
Yeah.
- [198:39]
A
When the best guy, they sign. Hey, this guy you never heard of just sign for four years, $700 million. NBA. Hey, this guy you never heard of just signed four years, 500 million. MLB. Hey, this guy you never Heard of in the NFL just signed four years. Years, 40 million. Then NHL, the best player in the league just signed two years, 12 and a half million dollars per year. It's like, you think that's good things.
- [199:03]
B
Someone.
- [199:04]
A
What?
- [199:05]
C
Hey, the best player since Wayne Gretzky just signed for, you know. Peanuts. Yeah. Literal peanuts.
- [199:11]
A
I don't think that's good for the league optically, but I'd like to let everybody know. It's awesome that that is the type of guy that is playing in the NHL, though, which once again, goes back to the respect we have for the sport and why the sport is awesome. But that. I didn't like the way that looked against the other numbers. You know, I'm like, the NHL is. This is the best player. His contract's up, man. He's a gentleman. Yeah.
- [199:33]
B
The comparisons are bad if you. If you haven't seen him yet.
- [199:36]
A
Contracts, other contracts in other sports.
- [199:38]
B
Yeah. Someone said Carmichael McDavid's the greatest player in the NHL right now, and he's making, you know, 12 and a half a year. And then someone said Steven Adams is averaging three points for the Houston Rockets and he's making $13 million a year right now.
- [199:54]
A
Those are big three points.
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E
Room protector.
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B
He. Oh, my bad, my bad. I can't leave this out. Six rebounds a game as well.
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C
Okay.
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A
Yeah, it's on defense side, but let alone the tone that's being said as soon as he steps foot on a court, that's worth what it's worth. But I appreciate Connor McDavid doing that. That's really cool to build up the team. I hope they win a couple cup. But also, I think a lot of people saying, I'm not doing hockey as a kid. What? It's tough sport. It's really tough sport. It's a beautiful sport.
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F
Great sport.
- [200:20]
A
You know what would be a good sport? You. If you put that ball into that hoop right over there. 15 people, $500. AJ Hawk's gonna give you a motivational speech here. Can I.
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H
Does he have his ears in? He can still hear me?
- [200:30]
A
Yeah, he can see you're behind me over shoulder.
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H
Yesterday I told. I told BA Yesterday he's gonna make four out of four, and he did. Did make four out four, So I think you're definitely gonna make this. Especially with those sweet campaign shoes on, man. They look even better now you're standing.
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A
I like that. AJ Said I got a lot of yesterday for what I said to B.A. turns out I was right. Okay. So let's make sure we remember that. Ty, anything to say to AQ and those sweet shoes that he's wearing, the speed bounds.
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C
Yeah, I would say you. You know, there were 40 winners yesterday. So if you want to go ahead and throw this thing up in the mezzanine, go ahead. Yeah. Go to the program.
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B
I don't think we need to be punted out there.
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C
Yeah, I don't. I don't know if we need to be trying to make this one now.
- [201:04]
A
On that note, I think you would be big time baby face if you were to make that for 15 people make their lives better. But Darius J. Butler has something to say to you before you go ahead and let this one fly.
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E
I would say pump up and tighten up those shoes.
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A
Pump it up.
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F
Throw.
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E
Throw this ball. There we go. There we go.
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A
Boy, I wish he kiss.
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C
I was going to say that's pretty cool.
- [201:23]
E
D. Brown before the dunk contest.
- [201:25]
B
Yep. That is sick.
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A
All right. You Might have cut off circulation to his feet with that. I don't know how active he's feeling at this moment, but it might be a gift and a curse, these speed mountains having so many capabilities to maybe tighten it up a little bit. Boston, Connor has the last message for you here.
- [201:40]
B
Just think about, you know, what Clyde Christensen would tell you if he was here as a quarterback coach. And I'll probably keep that elbow tight maybe. Yeah, There you go. Score. The shoulders. Yep, yep.
- [201:48]
A
Right, right, right. OC Poor house is the place down in Carolina. The ship definitely go check out. I'm sure Clyde Christensen has not been there, but he does fancy himself a Charlotte and North Carolina man himself. Aq. All you got to do is put that football in the hoop and 15 lives will be better because you are a great athlete. Penn State can't get the job done, but can AQ Shipley? We shall see. Hell yeah. For the people aq. Best effort. Ball pretty good. That was a good attempt. All right, you'll get one more. Okay. You'll get one more. That. That'll act. Act as a range check. Okay. This is your last throw, though. This is it.
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B
Okay.
- [202:26]
A
15 people, 500. You put that ball into that hoop right over there. All people have to do is repost this post, say something nice to somebody. Maybe they cute because he's pretty aggressive today wearing a maroon hoodie like this. I like it with the khaki.
- [202:38]
B
Really good, good fit.
- [202:39]
A
Maybe they could say that to you and say something nice to somebody else and they can maybe win 500 because you're such a damn good athlete. Whip you a hall of famer for basketball, super bowl champion in football. Your worlds could come together here. Put the football in the basketball hoop. Good. Aq.
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B
Too much.
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A
This guy's never going to do it now. This guy's never going to do it. I thought we really had it. Before we get out of here, we do have to celebrate something. Ladies and gentlemen, there's obviously one half of the Hammer Cowboys in AP tunnel, but the other half of the Hammer, Dan Cowboys is a man from Canada who was a ship painter, I believe for 16 or 17 years. And while he was in the belly of those ships, he would be listening to different shows as he tried to pass the time. He'd wake up, he'd put on his paint suit and his lack of mask, and he would go paint the shit out of these ships up there in Canada. And I'm sure it was cold as balls. You're talking about a guy that would show up up every day not only for the ships, but for his family, for his friends. Work his ass off. And he listened to shows, and all of a sudden, a group of idiots from Indianapolis cracked into his ears. Then he called into said program one time, and he was electrifying. I thought his name was Dump. Turns out it's Gump, because this guy was a great soccer player. He's obviously a great friend, and we're lucky as hell that he's a member of our team. Ladies and gentlemen, certainly the oldest guy of the bunch. It is Gumpy's birthday today. Hell, yeah. Happy birthday to you Happy birthday to you Bunny. Happy birthday, dear Gummy. Hey. Happy birthday to you.
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E
Hell, yeah.
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A
We're lucky to have you here.
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C
Thank you, boys.
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A
Canadian Thai actually has a message for you before you give your speech.
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C
Yeah, listen, Paul, I just like to say I hope those knobs and muppets, you know, start showing up for you on Monday nights and Tuesday nights and Wednesday nights and Thursday nights and Friday mornings and Saturday nights. Yeah, every morning as well. And obviously Sundays. How about those fins? Hey, we're not dead yet.
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A
Yeah, we're not dead yet. And the bets are always alive, especially 4am we got fucking ping pong in China going on that we got to bet on. And we think this trip around the sun for you, Gumpy, you're going to win every single bet. Gumpy, AJ Hawk has a message to deliver you on your big birthday here.
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H
Well, Gump, first off, happy birthday. I was unaware that it was your birthday. You look great. I'm sure you feel great. Are you fully a US citizen at this point?
- [205:22]
A
No, not quite yet. We're getting there, A.J. thank you.
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B
We're on.
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H
We're on the track though, right?
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G
We're on pace?
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A
Absolutely.
- [205:28]
H
Okay. It's gonna happen in no time.
- [205:30]
B
Trains at the station.
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A
Yeah. And said train that we're gonna have to get on is gonna have to be studying of a test that is recalling information that he hasn't done since high school. So we think he's certainly already working on that and studying that. And Gumpy, we love you, buddy. Happy birthday. We appreciate the hell out of you.
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B
Love you, Gump.
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C
Thank you, guys.
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A
I love you. Appreciate. Appreciate you guys more than you'll ever know. Very lucky to be here with you guys. We're thankful you're here. Hey, go Dolphins. Hey. Go Red Sox. Hey. Hey. Go Texas Hockey.
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B
Hey, we're going out. Go Liverpool.
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A
You'll never walk a long gun. Yeah. You never walk alone With Liverpool in Inter Miami, they're gonna figure it out.
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C
Oh, yeah, of course.
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A
And those bastards at Barcelona or Real Madrid, whoever you lose on every single weekend, they'll. They'll figure it out this year as well. Gumpy, who are your go to's? Who are your regulars that have been letting you down like a knob?
- [206:20]
B
Real Madrid and Barcelona.
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A
So start of the year, there's no Champions League, so you can really hammer them. It's win, win, win. But then you get the Champions League midway midweek.
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B
The other teams aren't playing during the.
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I
Week, you kind of get God on the weekends.
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A
It's awesome.
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B
Yeah, we're in the mix right now.
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A
He's so mad. Just notification pops up. These muppets.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I had so much fun faith in these boys. I met these boys. It's like, who are you talking? He's all by him, he's talking to himself. It's just me and him in a room and he's just saying this, not to me. He's speaking a different direction. He thinks they can hear him. I think, who are you talking. The worst one was on Sunday.
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B
Levandowski, who we interviewed when we were in Barcelona.
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C
I live bet Barcelona, double chance, they're down one nothing.
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A
Hammered him.
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I
I thought it was best bet I ever made. They get a penalty shot in like the 65th minute. Levandowski steps up, never misses a penalty.
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A
Puts this thing five yards wide.
- [207:14]
B
No, it's as bad as it gets.
- [207:16]
E
Come on, man.
- [207:18]
A
I forget who it was.
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B
There was somebody, I mean, last week, I, I, you know, you guys were traveling for game day, and I came in, we come in and you know, it was after the Sox, Yankees, G game, two or three, I honestly, I forget about it. And it was after Thursday Night Football and I see a tweet from gumpy at like 12:30, and it's new Mexico State football.
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A
I'm like, how is he going?
- [207:40]
B
From baseball that started at 3 till New Mexico State.
- [207:45]
A
Who gives a university? And then we're on plane at 6. Yeah, we're on plane at 6am so then we'll be sitting on the plane. And I'd passed. I didn't see New Mexico. I didn't see. That's on me. That's on me 100%. And then he, he will mention somebody's name from the team, like, oh, Johnson last night.
- [208:03]
B
There it is.
- [208:03]
A
And I'm like, who? What? Who are you talking about? New Mexico State corner this guy fucking locked down. He had 17 pass defense last night. It's like, what?
- [208:15]
E
Excuse me.
- [208:16]
A
It is the most Obscure shit. And when these guys let him down, he. They need to know, takes it personal.
- [208:23]
B
It takes.
- [208:23]
H
Makes it personal.
- [208:23]
A
I feel like it's like a friend kicked him in the balls. That. That is literally what the reaction is. Him upset, yelling at Clouds when we're the only people around each other is one of my favorite things. Just a full public outburst. And it's like, about what? Something happening in Italy right now.
- [208:39]
C
What?
- [208:39]
A
The man. And everybody like, looks over at him and then it's like, what happened? He goes, muppets can't put a ball away. And I go, were you supposed to win? He goes, should have tied at least. And then he goes right back to it. There's another bet coming. Yeah. Now we're riding the wave of whoever's next.
- [209:01]
B
Got to get back on the right track.
- [209:02]
A
I guess Liverpool can let me down again.
- [209:06]
C
We will tonight. We got a midweek QSA boys party.
- [209:09]
A
In the QSA tonight. Okay? And who we like?
- [209:12]
I
We got Missouri State playing, man.
- [209:15]
A
And I do like Liberty going into UTEP tonight.
- [209:19]
C
Okay?
- [209:20]
A
They're laying a point.
- [209:21]
C
I like them on the.
- [209:22]
A
That's exactly what I'm talking about right there. That's exact. You just heard it. All the people just heard it for. I like Liberty going into UTEP tonight. And if Liberty does not there, every person that plays for Liberty, that he knows the name of or anybody associated with the college will get undressed just at some moment. But if they win, Guppy enjoys it for about a half. Half a second. And then, bang, we're on to the next bet. He's at the Mac Brown stage of gambling, where losing is devastating. In anger, winning is just a relief. Let's get to the next bet, Gumpy. This year, let's take these wins in a little bit more and enjoy them. Let's not worry about the losses that the Muppets continue to put you through. Happy birthday. We love you. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Tone, why don't you make your way out? We're all strapped around here. Did you hear him say that, aj?
- [210:14]
H
Oh, yeah, I heard.
- [210:14]
B
Incredible.
- [210:16]
A
Just a little heads up. Tyrone wanted to say. All right. Great work. You look really cool.
- [210:20]
B
Thanks.
- [210:21]
A
You do look really cool today.
- [210:22]
E
Good shoot.
- [210:23]
A
Hey, Q. Good work, brother. Sorry you didn't win anything for anybody. Happy birthday, Gumpy.
- [210:29]
B
One day.
- [210:29]
A
We can't wait to listen to Hammer down as we have a birthday celebration. A Gumpy coming up, I assume. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together, aq. Anything you say to the team?
- [210:39]
B
Five guys on the same page next week. O line dominates.
- [210:43]
A
All right, I like that. D Bucks. Great work this week. Anything you say to the boys?
- [210:46]
E
No, AQ said it all.
- [210:48]
A
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