PMS 2.0 1428 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 6 Recap, MNF Doubleheader Preview, Adam Schefter, Heather Dinich, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Summary

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 – Episode 1428: Overreaction Monday, NFL Week 6 Recap & MNF Preview

Date: October 13, 2025
Host: Pat McAfee
Co-Hosts: AJ Hawk, Darius Butler, Boston Connor, Ty Schmidt, Tone Digs
Guests: Adam Schefter, Heather Dinich, Dan Orlovsky

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Episode Overview

This Overreaction Monday episode delivers a high-energy breakdown of NFL Week 6's chaos, bold predictions, and lighthearted takes as Pat and his crew bounce around the league. The show sets the table for a unique Monday Night Football doubleheader, covers major storylines from the gridiron, addresses college football’s seismic coaching shakeups, and hosts a stream of insiders who unpack the implications for the NFL and beyond. Expect the signature mix of football expertise and locker-room riffs.

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Key Segments and Highlights

1. NFL Week 6 — Top Headlines & “First 15” Segment

(Start – 46:30)

• Pat launches “First 15”—the no-huddle, 15-minute deep dive into the week’s five juiciest headlines, with Darius Butler in lockstep.

Headline 1: Chargers' Comeback & Justin Herbert’s Ascension

(03:56)

• Justin Herbert leads a dramatic, last-minute win over the Dolphins, stoking was-he-the-real-top-pick debates.
• Pat raves about Herbert’s “magic man” arsenal, leadership through chaos, and new synergy with OC Jim Harbaugh.
  • “He’s doing everything right this year so far.” – Darius Butler (08:04)
• Discussion on the 2020 QB draft class and revisionist hindsight from teams and fans.

Headline 2: Tua’s Post-Game Comments & Dolphins' Locker Room Issues

(11:02 – 14:40)

• Tua Tagovailoa calls out Dolphins’ team discipline and leadership via the press—sparking debate on QB leadership etiquette.
  • “Every ex-player has spoken about this and said, this is a terrible decision.” – Pat (12:54)
  • “Less talking from Tua would be better going forward, in my opinion.” – Darius Butler (14:40)
• The cast questions the wisdom of airing internal issues in public, especially after a team loss.

Headline 3: NFL Europe — Jets' London Disaster & Coaching Woes

(14:54 – 19:09)

• Apologies to UK fans after a historically bad London game (fewest international first downs ever).
  • “That was by far the worst one of all time. So we’d like to say, hey Governor, sorry about it.” – Pat (14:54)
• Nitpicking Aaron Glenn’s halftime mismanagement and the Jets’ embarrassing offensive line issues.
• Calls for patience and perspective: Denver’s historic defense gets credit for exposing New York and Chicago's flaws.

Headline 4: MVP Candidates Emerge

(20:38 – 30:56)

• The table debates early MVP frontrunners: Baker Mayfield, Drake Maye, Sam Darnold, Danny “Indiana Jones” Downs, and Patrick Mahomes.
• Baker’s rebirth in Tampa is a signature story:
  • “All Baker does is get up and say, yup, give me more of that.” – Pat (21:55)
  • Running theme: perseverance of cast-off QBs (Baker, Darnold, Daniel Jones) in new homes.

Headline 5: Chaotic Chiefs-Lions Ending, JuJu/Brian Branch Brawl

(36:53 – 39:12)

• Heated postgame Chiefs-Lions melee: Brian Branch’s smackdown of JuJu Smith-Schuster draws calls for discipline.
  • “It’s a black eye for the NFL in general.” – Darius Butler (38:25)
• The segment doubles as a broader discussion on league discipline, player fines, and sportsmanship initiatives.

2. Injury Woes, Trade Deadline, and Adam Schefter’s Inside Reports

(41:07 – 56:15)

• Colts’ Injury Carnage: Pre-game chaos as two key Colts (Ward, Anthony Richardson) suffer rare warmup injuries.

  • “I don’t recall a team losing a player in pregame warmups…no less two players to significant injuries.” – Adam Schefter (41:30)

• NFL Trade Deadline Preview:

  • Schefter ticks through teams prepping to buy or sell; the Browns “open for business”, Dolphins being watched closely.
  • “Browns are like, hey listen, whatever you got, let’s make a deal.” – Pat (48:36)

• Coaching Carousel: Hot Seat Updates

  • No imminent head coach firings at time of show—minutes later, the Titans fire Callahan, which the crew covers in real-time.

3. College Football Chaos: Coaching Changes, Playoff Outlook, and Heather Dinich’s Insights

(65:33 – 81:07)

• James Franklin Out at Penn State:
  • How Penn State’s resources make it a “destination” job.
  • Indiana’s rise under Signetti and his name circling big jobs.
  • The Big Ten’s shifting playoff picture and the looming SEC playoff “overload.”
    • “Why would we limit ourselves when if you look over the past stretch of the College Football Playoff, we could get more than four teams in?” – Heather Dinich (74:09)
• Notre Dame’s Playoff Road, Texas, and the Heisman Race:
  • Notre Dame’s strength of schedule positions them as a playoff possibility.
  • Heather Dinich makes the rare call for a defensive Heisman, spotlighting Reuben Bane Jr.

4. Monday Night Football Doubleheader Preview with Dan Orlovsky

(85:45 – 105:37)

• Bills vs. Falcons:

  • Dan Orlovsky on the Falcons’ young, athletic defense and their “all-in” mentality.
    • “They unapologetically have said they went all in…they want to go after teams physically and be the fastest team in the NFL.” – Dan Orlovsky (87:35)
  • Watch for both teams pounding the run; high-scoring shootout predicted.

• Bears vs. Commanders:

  • The progress of Caleb Williams under pressure; Jaden Daniels and the Commanders’ offensive identity.
  • Trick formations (4x1 sets, heavy OL packages) highlighted as key trends.

5. Fan Overreactions & Social Media Pulse

(151:00 – End)

• Fans tweet wild proclamations (“Colts are the best team in the NFL!”, “Baker for MVP!”, “Jets will go 0-17”).
• Panel reflects: The NFL is so close—three plays make/break a season; moods swing on a single Sunday.
• “The NFL is so close—the difference between winning and losing is razor thin.” – Pat (183:53)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Justin Herbert’s signature play (06:07):
  “Herb’s back to throw, defender wrapped around him, just mighty man it, Ladd does his stop fly by, and starts getting that necessary yardage, here comes Zion Johnson flying ahead of Ladd, gets that block...I’m going to remember that play until they throw dirt over the top of me.” – Pat McAfee

• On Tua’s Leadership (14:40):
  “In my experience…the best teams, the players police the room. So I don’t know what his point was, but I’d say less talking from Tua would be better going forward, in my opinion.” – Darius Butler

• On NFL Europe's London Game (14:54):
  “We would like to apologize for that game. That was by far the worst one of all time.” – Pat McAfee

• On Baker’s MVP run (21:55):
  “All Baker does is get up and say, yup, give me more of that. And his entire energy has radiated through the Tampa Bay area.” – Pat McAfee

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• First 15 / Top NFL Stories: 03:56 – 39:12
• Injuries/Trade Deadline/Schefter: 41:07 – 56:15
• College Football & Dinich Interview: 65:33 – 81:07
• Dan Orlovsky MNF Preview: 85:45 – 105:37
• Callahan Titans Firing & Coaching Carousel: 109:34 – 113:12
• Fan Overreactions / Social Media Pulse: 151:00 – End

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Running Themes & Tone

• Relatable Football Fandom: The show is a celebration of overzealous fans, emotional swings, and weekly declarations of doom or destiny.
• Locker Room Banter: The cast keeps the energy light, quick, and irreverent, with inside jokes, quick pivots, and plenty of self-deprecation.
• Insider Access: Integrates immediate injury updates, live reactions to news, and pulls in ESPN’s leading reporters for context.
• Entertainment Meets Analysis: While the jokes fly, the insight is sharp–from scheme breakdowns to MVP odds, and the unique challenges of modern coaching.

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Summary for Non-Listeners

This episode encapsulates everything that’s made “The Pat McAfee Show” a staple for football fans: fast-paced breakdowns of NFL (and college) high jinks, deep dives with ESPN’s best insiders, and the perfect blend of humor and knowledge. Whether you want to know why Justin Herbert might finally be “the guy,” how the Dolphins' QB room is fraying, who should be on your MVP radar, or why insider news drops faster on this show than anywhere else, PMS 2.0 delivers—and never takes itself too seriously.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this magical overreaction. Monday, October 13, 2025. This program begins right now. Football is the greatest. We're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. There's so much to talk about. And also there's two Monday Night Football games tonight. That's right. Joe Buck and Troy Aikman will be on the call on abc and our friend Dan Orlovsky, who will be joining us in the second hour, will be on with Fowler and Fowler and Lewis ridd. Bills at Falcons 7:15 with Dano on the call. Bears at Commanders the Buffalo Bills could become the third team in the NFL to be 5 and 1 at this state of the season. Who are the other teams? Oh, the Buccaneers and the Indianapolis Colts. It's been a fun time over here. We're definitely going to chit chat about that as we forecast to what's ahead this evening. We also have Adam Schefter joining us in about 15 minutes or so at 25, maybe 30 minutes from now after the first 15, whenever he chit chats about all the things that happened yesterday that we need to think about going ahead. And also so before we make our bets tonight, now, I haven't been seeing the NFL field or board that well. Okay. Now. And the public has been getting their ass kicked. Let's go to 1/2 of the hammer done Cowboys AP Tone, tone. The public continues to lose whenever we're all on one side of something, right?

[Tony]

Yeah. This weekend the public showed up and went 2 and 5 against the spread when 60% or more was on a certain side for the season that is now 15 and 35, I believe, if my math is correct.

[Pat McAfee]

So I got to stop being an idiot. That just follows the wave of everybody else. I got to start seeing the field a little bit differently. Whenever it comes to the NFL, I'm close to.500. But boy, it's been under for a while. In college, though, we've been doing pretty good. Pretty good. We've been having swinging a hot bat in college. That's because I think we've been getting a chance to kind of feel and experience it a little bit more. More boots on the ground. We got to continue to do that for the NFL as we live this glorious 2025 season that has been living up to the hype both in college, I think even high school football. I don't know if you've been seeing us. I've been seeing high school kickers hit like 62 yard field goals. 63. Yeah. 55 yard field goals. I've been seeing highlights from quarterbacks cr been showing up for us in a big way in this overreaction Monday should do the same for all of you. We hope the toxic table is here at Boston. Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Con man. Love that. We got the New England. We're all Patriots here. Quarter zip back on. Ty, I love. We got the Green Bay packers hat on on this overreaction Monday. Got close.

[Connor]

Yeah, I got too close for comfort.

[Pat McAfee]

You got close with Flacco, did it not?

[Connor]

Yeah, I mean almost everything that I said that kind of we were saying played out before my eyes on Sunday. But listen, hey, I know how hard it is get a win in this league and that's what the packers did despite Joe Flacco, you know, turning back the book about 10 years and looking like himself in 2015.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Especially in the fourth quarter late. It becomes a one score game and it's like wait a second, Joe Flacco's got this figured out if they're able to get a stop, which we don't know if that's going to be possible. Trey Hendrickson gets hurt.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Has a little back injury. He's out. Obviously that's a big storyline before the trade deadline on what this Kansas, our Cincinnati Bengals team is. But they get back into this Green Bay packers escape with a win. They should be pumped about it. We move on to another day past. Joey Flack, 9 year NFL vet, host of Everything DB Good D Bad Darius J. Butler D Bucks A lot happened in the football world. A lot happened in the football world on these overreaction Mondays. We've been, we've been doing something that's now become a full time segment. It feels like. Yeah, oh yeah. Where we get breakdown the top five headlines coming out of the week of NFL Sunday football and we call it the first 15. Now we put a 15 minute clock on the screen. I don't know if you know this Debo. We put a 15 because it's like 15 minutes is what we're hoping it would take. First 15 though is indicative of the first 15 plays that scripted for an offense. So this is basically our scripted portion of the show. This is the first 15. Then we'll react to how the stories go. It's driven by Ram, but this has become a real thing.

[Darius Butler]

Darius jbuck yeah, I mean we obviously do great with scripted things so we've been nailing it right on this 15 minute mark every week. So hopefully we stick to it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That's the thing, is we have the blocks. Just every word is in there. And that's why whenever you say, hey, why don't you go ahead and start that 15, we know that we're going to get this accomplished. Start the 15 minute clock and let's go to number five. Headline coming out of the weekend, was Herbert the right pick all along. Now you go back to that draft, obviously Tua got picked for Herbert gets picked five. Who goes number one overall? Joe Burrow. And after what we just saw from Justin Herbert and what we're expecting from his entire career, how he handles himself off the field, how he's built, how he's been able to kind of navigate so many different transitional periods of such a young career already with different offense coordinators, different buildings, you name it. Now he's got Harbaugh. And Harbaugh might make this guy become Goat. There's a chance. Justin Herbert has greatest of all time conversation whenever it's all said and done 10, 15 years because of how incredibly athletic he has been. He leads another comeback for the Chargers against the Miami Dolphins. Let's go to the third quarter. Finds his boy Lodge McConkey. They will have a big one later in the game, but they seemingly on the same page. He extends the play, rolls to his right, drops an absolute dime debut before he hits Kamani Vital. This man out of Troy, he was a third team All American two years ago. Becomes a sensation for this Los Angeles Chargers team. And once again, Justin Herbert's doing it all. This guy's a magic man. This guy's a magic. It's not just deep shots and layups. He's also hitting the intermediate shots 10 to 20 yards. He has more yards than anybody else in the NFL. So whenever you talk about methodically breaking down a defense, Justin Herbert's doing it all. And then they can't. Let's go late to the game. Tua answers. Tua fourth quarter, 50 some seconds left, top play. Gotta put it on. Sports center Darren Waller always open whenever he's a Miami Dolphin. Tua Tongvaloa has his moment. Yeah. Holy hell. Tua Tongvaloa just drove back on Justin Herbert. I was the right pick all along. This is going to be a great day to be a Miami Dolphin. Holy hell. Well, Naeem Hines got a kickoff return. He took that thing out and then all of a sudden, Justin Herbert had the opportunity to do a play that is going to be etched in Harbaugh's memory forever. That play would be burned in My mind for. Until they throw dirt over top of me.

[AJ Hawk]

Justin Herbert back to throw, defender wrapped.

[Pat McAfee]

Around him, just mighty man it. Lad does his stop, fly by and starts, starts getting that necessary yardage and here comes Zion Johnson flying ahead of Ladd. Gets that block shielded and you know there's another 20. Yeah, I'm going to remember that play until they throw dirt over top of me. That's how great I feel about, feel about that. Harbaugh says, hey, when they got that mahogany and then they put the dirt and then I no longer got life and soul and breath. I'm going to remember that one and talk about that one. Because this could be season defining play for this Chargers team if they were to win this game against Miami Dolphins, which was so damn improbable. I actually got some stats about how the probability was before that play, during that play and after that play on win percentages. And I'll be honest, if I was better at reading what the hell these stats meant and how it was actually anywhere near not bullshit, I would have certainly said it. But nonetheless, that was improbable. That was something that wasn't supposed to happen. And instead they come together and you heard Harbaugh talk about Zion Johnson extra block, talking about the culture. Yep, sure, lad McConkey doing his thing, Mighty Man Herbert doing his thing. And then it leads to Cameron Dicker and this man, has he missed? No, he hasn't. He'd make this 14 of 14 on the year they're 4 and 2. There were some times earlier in the season where we thought maybe this Harbaugh harbor team was going to be crap. Maybe they were going to be shite. Maybe this whole buildup that we're talking about 300, $400 million in a brand new practice facility out there in Los Angeles, maybe it was all a waste of money. Maybe this team is going to be the same old Chargers every single time. And now beating up on the Dolphins with less than 35 seconds left in the game, we're saying, was Herbert the number one overall pick all along? Is this the team that's going to go on a run? We shall see. In an AFC that is seemingly wide open except for at the very tippy tippy top D. Butch, you've been on the Chargers for a few years now because you love Justin Herbert.

[Darius Butler]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

What have you seen from him this season, just in this game that makes you believe maybe the Chargers to win the whole damn thing and their Chargers faithful would obviously love.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I mean it's been since he's been in the league, honestly. And this is had a part of that stat up there in the graphic. 18 game winning drives only behind Patrick Mahomes since coming into the league. So he's never been an issue. You kind of mentioned all the different offensive coordinators, the different head coaches. We know that Jim Harbaugh is a winner. He builds winners wherever he goes so that he's put the right team around him, the right play callers. Everything's kind of going right now. As far as the question if he was the right pick, you know, it's kind of revisionist. Hip hop Joe Burrow, obviously he's the Heisman winner. He was a no brainer. Number one pick, been to a Super bowl, already has playoff wins. Tua. Look, a lot of the league was tanking for Tua at one point. Now, he did have the major hip injury that caused some concerns and questions. But Herbert has been doing everything right since coming into the league. But he still got to win the playoffs just like Tua does. So I'll hold off on that. Is he the right pick? But he's been doing everything right this year so far.

[Pat McAfee]

Certainly gave us an opportunity to say it and rub it in Gumpy's face. That is the only reason why we did this. Now let's go to. Because he hates it. Oh, everybody's a genius now. Okay. Because he says pasta and water helps him with concussions. Now all of a sudden everybody would have drafted her, but. Okay, okay. Yeah. It's a Dolphin's fault. Okay. Bunch of knobs losing.

[Tony]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

That's exactly.

[Darius Butler]

Who in number two. That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Chase.

[Connor]

Yeah, yeah, Chase. Yummy.

[Pat McAfee]

And then Akuta.

[Tony]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

And then Tua. And then Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow, Chase Akuta, Tua Herbert. And Tom Telesco, who's general manager of the Chargers said whoever the Dolphins pick school with us.

[Connor]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

We're scooting with the other guy.

[Darius Butler]

That was kind of.

[Pat McAfee]

But we wanted Herbert all along is what he kind of said. But everybody did kind of have Tua slotted there. Joey Burrow obviously has the year that he has down there at LSU and he cements himself as the Ohio kid. He's going to be the number one overall pick. Then there was a little chat. Better maybe now that we know the business a little bit better. That's potentially from the agents of TUA and Herbert. Maybe. I don't want to put it on anybody saying he's going to say no, he won't get. He. He will turn down the Cincinnati Bengals if they were to draft him number one overall. Do you remember that entire time?

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I think we were even like, what if this guy, you know, because what.

[Tony]

The Bengals, looking back on it.

[Connor]

Whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. And we will talk about them later. Cincinnati Bengals aren't in a great spot, but I do appreciate the fact that Joe Flack got hot late.

[Connor]

He did.

[Pat McAfee]

And Jamar Chase started doing his damn thing. It was fun to watch. They're exciting, they're explosive. Is it a winning brand of football? We shall see. We talk about it. Was he the right pick all along? 2 obviously gets drafted to the Miami Dolphins and he kind of go ahead five and six. Yeah, sorry, five and six. Two gets drafted, one ahead of Justin Herbert. Yikes, that's on me. Should have known that exact number there going in. But nonetheless. So that leads to some. We like to call a number four headline of the weekend. Tough scenes. Oh, no, oh, no, oh no. We literally just talked about Tua. Okay. Tua had that game winner. Less than a minute left. Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Unbelievable.

[Con Man]

Stop.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you think please get a stop. Get a stop. Tua has game winning drive in final minute of fourth quarter against Justin Herbert. Could be narrative, could be story, could be the. That could be number five.

[Connor]

It could be two with the right pick.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah. Two was the right all along. Yeah, damn. All along. That could have been that entire thing. But instead, Herbert, Ladd, Zion Johnson, Cameron Dicker, the whole team. We hear it, we see it. And then that leads to a post game that is not a positive one about a last minute game winning touchdown drive. Instead it's about, hey, what's the state of the culture? And Tua, I don't know if this was prepared or not. I think personally decided to utilize this as a time to speak to his teammates. You know, like coaches talk to their locker room through the media. Sometimes they'll get messages through the media to their players. Well, my guys know that they're going to England to see Paris. Like that's a message through the media that they're hoping gets to the players. Our offense obviously wasn't nice together. That's a message they're trying to get to the player, trying to set the tone maybe before the first team meeting. Like, hey, here's this. I'm trying to. It's been happening since the beginning of time. I think Tua tried to do that through the media to talk to his team, into his locker room. Just what he chose to say. Everybody's saying he's worst thing. You could probably say, is the quarterback the leader of the team?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, well, I think it starts with the leadership in, in helping articulate that for the guys. And then what we're expecting out of the guys, right? We're expecting this.

[Pat McAfee]

Are we getting that?

[Darius Butler]

Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up to only player only meetings late. Guys not showing up to player only meeting.

[Pat McAfee]

Like there's a lot that goes into that.

[Darius Butler]

Do we have to make this mandatory? Do we not have to make this mandatory? So, so it, it's, it's a lot of, it's a lot of things of that nature that we gotta get cleaned up.

[Pat McAfee]

And it starts with the little things like that. So I think Tua in his eyes, in his mind are probably trying to be a good quarterback for this team. And then things aren't happening and he decides to kind of air his teammates out through the media. Every ex player has spoken about this and said this is a terrible decision. This is not how you should go about doing this. Especially if you're not a winning program and have a winning thing going. He owned up to throwing three interceptions, but that's a part of it. He did say we whenever he said team leadership. So he's putting himself in there saying we gotta do a better job. So he does take a little bit of accountability. But throwing your teammates under the bus for things that nobody even knows that your teammates are doing yet. You gotta present a situation. And I say, but in this situation they're doing terrible things. It's just not a good thing in the locker room is what everybody has been saying. Basically.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. And that's very, very brave of you trying to get in to his brain and try to think what he's thinking.

[Pat McAfee]

Pasta, pizza and water. I mean that's his brain, right?

[Darius Butler]

You know, every team is different. Some people may be confused out there. The difference between like players only meetings, you know, those kind of come to Jesus moments. Kind of like a player led meeting. So in my experience, we, our players only meetings during the season was like the units like defensive unit, like back seven, no defensive line. But after Friday we get done with practice and we go and go over 15, 20 play script maybe of what the team likes to do. And we go over our communications. Down left, hey, nickel left, nickel right. All those different things. I'm sure offenses do similar things. So those are the things that he's talking about. I would assume players not showing up too. And the only people that can police that are the players. The best team that you've been on, I Would guarantee the players kind of police the room. So I don't, I don't know what his point was kind of getting that out there, but I would say less. Less talking from tool would be better going forward, in my opinion.

[Pat McAfee]

It does seem like every time we hear something from the Dolphins, we find something and go, this team is stupid. Yeah. You know, this team is not run. You're South Florida boy. Gumpy. Obviously you've been riding this alongside of him. McDaniel, he's a little tag on his shoe last week.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Connor]

That should have been the coup de grace.

[Pat McAfee]

But once again, minute left, opening drive.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Against Chargers, which everybody has. They had. They had that and then all of a sudden, mighty man does his thing. That wasn't the only tough scene. Obviously, we all woke up with it yesterday. And to London, we don't like to do this often to England because you know a lot of stuff. But we would like to apologize for that game. Yeah, okay. That game was hand up. That was tough. Yeah. It's on us to hit for you guys having that one. And I think there's been a lot of bad games. Hembo sent me a stat though, that basically said that was by far the worst one. I mean, the 20 combined first downs in yesterday's London game were seven fewer than any international game in NFL history. This was by far the worst one of all time. So we'd like to say, hey, governor, sorry about it, but on that note, a ridiculous thing happened right before half that you guys won't often get to see right before half. People are saying it's a tough scene. Aaron Glenn, obviously first year head coach, former defensive coordinator from the Detroit Lions, doesn't normally have to deal with all the situational on the defensive side of the ball. Probably has somebody in his game situation camp that is in his ear. Has his ear. No timeouts. Obviously it starts with like 20 some seconds on the clock. That's fourth and one. Okay. So this is a tough situation for a team to be in. Okay. Especially if your quarterback at the time was 17 yards. He had thrown for, okay, 17 yards in the half and at the end of the game would end up with a net negative 10 yards passing. And the reason why it's negative 10 yards is because sacks count against your pass yards. They gave up nine sacks for negative 55 yards. He only passed for 45 or 47 yards. So you start doing some math. He had negative net. So Aaron Glenn, I think wasn't 100% confident that they were going to be able to Pick up maybe two yards to get a first down there on a quick out. Everybody's like, hey, fourth and one, you only need one yard here. There's no timeouts or playing off coverage. Okay, we'll throw a quick out. Pick up a first down, will we? We've thrown for 17 yards at that. Aaron Glenn's trying to figure that out in real time. It's not really a situation that comes up on a very regular basis because if you give them the ball right there, you pick up four or five yards, that's a field goal. So it's like, this could be a real swing, tough situation, obviously mismanaged. And then Garrett Wilson comes out afterwards, goes, I have no idea what the plan was. And then when I heard what the plan was, I was disappointed. I don't love it. But there was one answer. We think, like, every team is going to talk about this situation around the league. We do think there was an answer.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, they'll show it around the league. But I think it was just a Hail Mary. You get to that point until you're like, we just saw a first year head coach kind of learn something in real time. We always hear head coaches say, hey, there is no manual that comes with it. And it's easy for us, especially once the half is over, to say what we got to say. But, yeah, you just got to throw the Hail Mary there, Give yourself a chance to get something positive there. But he was like, but it has.

[Pat McAfee]

To be last play of half. Got to be last play 3 seconds, 4 seconds or whatever. And if you wanted to do the out, you would have to do like six, five seconds so that maybe you get one more play. If you want to get closer, maybe take a field goal, get a little bit closer there. But if you drop that or don't complete that, yeah, they gotta play, they gotta play. Now going the other way, there was a lot going on. But I think with how shite the game was that situation happening and it being the jets franchise, just kind of, this is a clown show. Why is this what we would send to London? Kind of rude of us. Yeah.

[Tony]

It also wasn't even just that last play. Like their whole, that whole drive, like Kurt Warner was losing his mind for the entire two minutes. It was, it was, yes, the last player, whatever, but the whole drive was. Was a weird situation.

[Pat McAfee]

Aaron Glenn was then asked afterwards if Justin Fields are still going to be the quarterback. And he had a little bit of a reaction, okay. About how dumb of a question that was. Basically, he has come out since then and said this.

[Darius Butler]

You know what, here's what. You know, I thought about this a lot last night.

[AJ Hawk]

I thought about the question that was.

[Darius Butler]

Asked and when you look at what Justin did, the games that he played, listen, I didn't think he was bad at all. I actually thought he did some pretty good things in those four games. In this fifth game, he took a step back, you know, and I'm with you guys 100%. And we can't have that, you know, we have to have get better than that. And he knows that, and he knows that better than anyone, you know. So I don't think you just try to bench a player after having one true back game because I thought the other games he played fairly well.

[Pat McAfee]

Aaron Glenn's got his players back. I think that's what you're hearing right there. And I'd like to think that literally right before half that whole thing, he was just trying to get to the locker room. Yeah, he was just trying to get to the locker room. However the hell we can get to right now, they're going to say the clocks are run to zero and we're going to be able to go inside if we don't do anything else.

[Con Man]

Let's do that.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's get the hell out of here. This Denver Broncos defense is no joke. I mean, they are on a historic run. Vance Joseph right now is on pace for 85 sacks. Their defense, which would crush the record of 72, obviously, which is the previous record, they're averaging five sacks per game and they have a 10 sack lead on the rest of the NFL right now. Okay, so this jets offense, there certainly might be some question marks and Justin Fields might not be a top five quarterback in the NFL at this stage of his career or maybe ever in his career whenever it comes to, you know, delivering the ball and point guarding and everything like that. But I think this Denver Broncos defense is a defense that will expose you. I think they will expose whether or not you have a good quarterback or a good offense. So I think it's a good kind of thermostat or. Or a kind of judgment.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

A good comp on how you're going to be. They're going to do that to a lot of teams that don't have great offense.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah, great litmus test. Because when you go, it's not just the quarterback, it's the offensive coordinator, it's the offensive line, it's the running backs. Are you going to be able to protect because they're going to keep applying pressure. Which a couple weeks ago, when they came and played the Colts and it came down that last second field goal, they blitzed Daniel Jones like 70% of his drop backs and only sacked them once. So that lets you know how well the Colts are being coached. Daniel Jones is playing the quarterback.

[Pat McAfee]

On that note, let's go to number three. Headline show we boys, six weeks into the season, we see some mvp.

[Con Man]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, we see some out there. Now there's a couple omitted. All right. If their team lost, sure. Okay. So if your team lost, we weren't going to put them on here. Okay. And if their team almost got close to losing to Joe Flacco's team, we all. We didn't put them on here, but I care either. Okay. So there's a couple quarterbacks that are certainly in the running, especially whenever it comes to the odds, if you're betting on them. But their teams didn't win, so we didn't put them up here. There's also a quarterback that's 40 plus years old.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

That is not even on the odds, really. And if the Pittsburgh Steelers continue to win, they're 4 and 1. They already have the buy. It's going to be a long road. But if they end up 14 and three, like, whatever the case, if they just continue to do that, Aaron Rodgers name is definitely going to be up for mvp. I mean, that's. If you want to sprinkle that right now, you probably get some incredible odds on it. But we're seeing about six guys that got some big time dubs that we're appreciating and respecting their game. Baker Mayfield. Let's go to number six, shall we? This guy's awesome. This guy is awesome. Everything about him. Stock explodes through his upper body. And all Baker does is get up and say, yup, give me more of that. Give me more. His entire energy has radiated through the entire Tampa Bay area, not just, obviously the locker room. They love this dude. I love this dude. And it's been incredible to watch him explode. Top four wide receivers out.

[Darius Butler]

Who cares?

[Pat McAfee]

Give me Tez Johnson out of Oregon Debudge.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, some people are chanting MVP after this guy scores a touchdown. Maybe hit this flip as well. But yeah, what Baker Mayfield is doing right now, man, anybody that has that buccaneer shit on, player, coach, training staff, anybody, fans, everybody associated with this team right now is buzzing because of what number six is doing at quarterbacks, regardless of who's out there lined up with them. So shout out to him. Leading his team to a 5 and 1 start. And all of them have been kind of close games that he had to find a way to win at the beginning.

[Pat McAfee]

He had no tackles right at the beginning of the season, had no tackles. Now they got no wide receivers. Well, they do. And Ted's hitting that. Hiya. And the Jeez Louise moment of the weekend was him going, man, I only did one. This is Taz Johnson after the game about what was being chanted about.

[Darius Butler]

I'm gonna tell y' all a funny story. This is crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

When I score and I hear MVP chant, I'm thinking they talking about me. So I asked Chef Fair. I'm like, chef. They was chanting mvp. He was like, yeah. I was like, I ain't do nothing this year. And then he was like, they talking about Baker test. I was like, well, that explains it. But he is mvp. The one he got the first down on. Well, that explains he is the mvp, though. Man, that is incredible stuff. I love their team. I love the culture they have.

[Con Man]

Well, and even just like the. The throws are unbelievable. All. All this stuff is so good. And he's at the point now, just like the other guys were like, hey, it doesn't matter who's out there. The third and 14 run is just like, pure will to win. Yeah. Like, not every. It doesn't matter what quarterback you are. Like, I don't know who else is making this play. You can say Josh Allen and Mahomes and stuff. I mean, this is ridiculous. Just wanting to win. Wanting the first down just more. I mean, it's a one point game right now.

[Pat McAfee]

And.

[Con Man]

And I don't know what down after it came. It was either the next play or a couple plays after. That's what led to the Tez Johnson touchdown. It's just. That's just a solo effort. Unbelievable. He really should win the mvp. I hope everybody just stays healthy on this list just because they are all playing great football.

[Pat McAfee]

On that note, Baker, we're talking his shit immediately afterwards. Understand. Understands the moment. Been around. He's at his best case. Yeah. Body language is insane for the rest of the team. Let's talk about another guy who's in the MVP conversation. Drake May. Listen, Drake May is everything that I think Conor had hoped he would be. Conor talked about his greatness last year. They'd be getting their asses beaten. He'd say, hey, we got a guy, though. This quarterback's making four, five plays a game that make you say, he understands what he's doing. They were talking about his footwork coming out of college. He's going to be inaccurate. He's not going to to able be. He learned he figured it out. He's not going to have to face. He's not going to be able to dissect the defenses. He's learned he's figured it out. Is he going to be tough enough, take those hits? You know, he led North Carolina in rushing and passing one season. Is he going to be able to rush in the NFL? He might be able to take away one of his. He can. He runs people over and he's seemingly always jovial. This guy's leadership is like, here we go, boys. Feels like he is a here we go, boys type guy, which I didn't know was possible to win with. And then you team that up with Vrabel and it's like this is like the perfect match made in heaven up there. You guys got to be absolutely jazzed. Fact that you have, dare I say it, a more handsome, a more athletic wide. Is he taller?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, I don't know who I know you compare.

[Pat McAfee]

Is he taller right now than Mac Jones?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, he is.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no. You better not even dance than Bailey's.

[Con Man]

Dad as Mac Jones. Height, just tall. Just let him fit, let him finish.

[Pat McAfee]

And let him go where he was going. Is this guy the 2025 younger generation?

[Darius Butler]

Oh, my God.

[Pat McAfee]

More mobile version of Tom Brady? Is that what's going on in New England right now? He's handsome. Have you seen him? Oh, yeah, he's incredibly handsome.

[Tony]

Handsome to Tom.

[Con Man]

I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, which time are we talking about exactly?

[Connor]

But.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, we're talking about 24 years old right now.

[Connor]

You have to go butt chin, Tom.

[Con Man]

Well, yeah, well, that's the thing. If we were just gonna go like, hey, no work done to your body. Yeah, Drake May is obviously better. But the other thing about Drake May is, like, he's already an adult. You know, he's 23 years old, but he's already married. The king and queen of New England people are calling the new maze, and it is unbelievable. Everything he does is great. And, like, we can talk about him forever. I legitimately could talk about him forever. But something AQ kind of pointed out last week to me, Josh McDaniels coming back has been a huge reason for his success. Just the way the offense goes, it's very smooth. D Bud said to me before the show, like, Drake May has entered the conversation where when he's throwing the ball and the ball leaves the screen and they got to track it, it doesn't matter, you know, it's going to be some sort of good ball, some sort of, you know.

[Connor]

Right. Read.

[Con Man]

Everything he does is perfect. I really don't know how it can get better than this. Winning the super bowl, of course, but this is the happiest, you know, and most excited I've been about a football team with a football team since Tom Brady beating the Rams in the Super Bowl.

[Pat McAfee]

Obviously Vrabel back too. He's awesome. His dramatics on the sideline, I forgot about how spectac they are. I guess these refs weren't necessarily on your guys's side down there.

[Con Man]

Dude, I don't think, I don't think it's, it's, it's necessary for the first 15 because this needs to be its own 15. Just about the referees and it's not really just about this game. It's about the idea that if this referee crew was on a Colts Bills, hey, huge game. Deciding who the one seed is. This was a pass interference call and.

[Pat McAfee]

You'Re going to say against the fondness.

[Con Man]

Against Stefan Diggs on the second 60 yard touchdown to pop Douglas. And you're going to say, oh well, where's the, where's the flag? This is what it was. And I, and I actually made D but look at it because D but actually knows football and I'm just a Patriots fan but D but said I don't get it. This is the worst call I've ever seen. If you actually watch the all 22, you can't see when the flag is thrown. And both teams had their special teams units on the field. That's not the play. Both teams had their special teams units on the field for the extra point because they already celebrated. The defense already walked off, the offense already walked off and then they called the passenger fear and so I don't know who the crew is. I'm glad that the Patriots won just because I didn't have to come on here today and say, hey, Roger Goodell, there's seven terrorists that work for the NFL and they're wearing black and white stripes and they refereed the game in New Orleans yesterday. This is the play. And for some reason, again, you're not going to see a flag. It's not going to pop up on the broadcast. It's not going to show on the bottom. Touchdown celebration. Incredible play. Look at Drake May too in the pocket. Oh yeah, he is bad feet. That matters. Straight and then a touchdown. But instead he gets called back for a pass interference. So again, this is more pass interference.

[Pat McAfee]

Is 10 yards down the field on the sideline we just showed with Stefan Diggs just because it's getting him worked up here.

[Darius Butler]

Unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

Stefan Diggs was 30, 40 yards away from, from the play. I, I mean he is nowhere near the play and even if he was right on top of the play people would argue that this right here, you're going to call offensive pass interference right there. I, I don't know if that's the thing. And then the timing of it happening late, you have to think to yourself wait, are they working against the Patriots? And then this empowers the Patriots even more by the way. Oh yeah, fra's on the sideline trying to talk to this ref. Nobody's list. There's a shot of fra's head just going back mind blown by the officials and then for them to get a win there. Oh the Mass holes just oh they're against us again. Oh they're against us again. They're trying to hold it. They don't want to see it again. That's what the New England Patriots fans feel like. Now we can't talk about Drake May the entire time even though we should think about it. Sam Darnold also former Minnesota Vikings quarterback and obviously everybody remembers his time in New York not going great well with the Seattle Seahawks. This dude has become a guy for their entire organization. Remember they're moving on Jackson Smith and Jigba has like a bunch of records right now. He is absolutely crushing him and Sam Darnold have crushed since the beginning in Injigma by the way is a Sierra Leone name. I believe his grandfather came to the United States of America if the story that we read online is accurate. And the American that took him in, basically his last name was Smith so his name is Jackson Smith. Njigba. Njigba is his grandfather's name from Sierra Leone and Smith is the. I forget the name. Do you remember the name? Sponsor sponsor or whatever. It was coming in there because we looked it up up because it's like such a cool name. It is Jackson Smith and Jigba is a cool name. The story also awesome. His family story is incredible. And what he's doing with Darnold outrageous. They just let him out of the building over there in Minnesota. I wonder if they thought it was just going to be a, you know, a one hit wonder. Sam Darnold's all the way back and McDonald loves him.

[Tony]

Yeah, he's all the way back. He is third in the NFL in passing yards behind Stafford and dak. He is fifth in touchdowns. He's got 11 touchdowns, the three interceptions and these balls that you're seeing like to JSN and Cooper cup there they are absolutely perfect. Like there is nowhere else that you could throw these balls. He's on fire right now leading this offense, offense with jsn, with Cooper cup, with some, with the tight end. Sam Darnold's playing really, really good football.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Sam Darnold's in the MVP conversation. You know who else is here in Indianapolis? Danny Downs. Now Danny Downs can run and he can obviously spin it. That's why the Dimes name is out there. They're calling him Indiana Jones because he saved our state. But I'll tell you, whenever he's playing, he saved the Colts franchise as well. We are a very boring franchise. We had the capability of winning games but it was going to be a grind it out type game. We have the ability now to win any style of game. You know if it's going to be a dog fight, we can do it. If it's going to be a shootout for some reason if our defense can't get stops, if our corners are maybe not able to be in the right place, if our corners are going to get knocked out of the game before the game even starts while doing a warmup, a pretty huge shining for us doesn't even make it to game time because there's a miscommunication in warmups and he ends up getting a concussion before the game even starts. There's like a chance that maybe our defense isn't going to be able to get a stop. We were able to win. Now this is a sad moment.

[Darius Butler]

It can't happen.

[Pat McAfee]

Boom, bang. Ogletree shoulder, mooney's head, concussion. 11:50am Obviously game kickoff at 1. Debone and my mom were already at the game in the suite that we have. They sent a text to just people gathered around. Somebody had no idea if somebody maybe fell, heard it was a concussion, wondered if maybe some of football was punted and hit him in the head. Because in those pre, pre workout there is like kind of a rules of engagement on how it all goes which I think is what a lot of people are questioning with your various Ward and Ogletree's situation. There is kind of like unwritten rules on how the pre, pre, pre warm up kind of works.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, you, you usually probably the first one out there, first or second one out there with you and the kickers but for us, you know, we go out there depending on home or way like where do you warm up? Who do you Warm up with. But you gotta be aware of where kind of other people are on the field. You see, you know, you got the fourth down army snap holder and kicker. But as far as the coaches even throwing these, it was Ogletree and Ward. So the coaches, you see the coaches were yard line. So yeah, so both on the 30 yard line basically going in and they're throwing the ball. So I think them and the actual players warming up got to be on the same page to make sure you're not going out while I'm going in. You can't have something like this happen to any player, let alone your big time off season, 20 million dollar year cornerback.

[Pat McAfee]

And on that note, I'm surprised more injuries don't happen in these situations. Just after seeing it, I was like, I was like, man, I don't know why I didn't ever think that this could possibly happen. I mean I almost sniped Tim tebow from like 75 yards away. That would have been a.

[Darius Butler]

That those are the toughest ones.

[Pat McAfee]

The punts.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, when you got punts coming from. Yeah, kicks. But when you're throwing the ball, like we all remember the pregame with. Was it Tucker and or Bucker Travis. Yes, Travis. So like you, you're kind of aware of who's warming up where. So you got to be aware obviously where your ball. You have more control of the ball that's being thrown than the ball that's being kicked. But that can't happen in the Anthony Richardson thing alone. Like I'm like what the. Before all of the some details came out, you're like what the hell is going on with the Colts pregame warm up. But all that being said, I think.

[Pat McAfee]

The Anthony Richardson, I think he was using a band and then something. I think the band pulled something like from what I. Because band you immediately think. I had a friend whenever I was growing up playing soccer. I was a teenager. He was getting band working. Things snapped, came back, hit him in the like ripped his hamstring. Oh damn. The metal thing like came in. He like had to get surgery. He was out. He was a very good player too. Like I know I was like 14 years old. I think it was the very beginning of like band like treatments. I think I had no idea teenagers were using him. And he's like, yeah, he's out or whatever. What happened? Like band snapped. Snapped over his hamstring. It's like, oh my God, that's scary as hell. I'm a big band user guy. But there is always a fear that the band's gonna snap and you're gonna get one.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So I thought that was immediately what it is. I guess that wasn't the. I guess there's potentially something, I don't know, orbital bone. I mean, he was in hospital.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Chavez ward. And then Marvin Harrison Jr. His head smacks off the turf really hard. He got taken in to the tent. And then there was a special teamer. I. I don't remember. I don't know his name. I should know his name. For the Arizona Cardinals, he got carted off with a neck. Like he had a neck incident. They took the face mask off the helmet. They took a face mask off the helmet. He was kind of. He was strapped down to the cart and they took him off and it was like, damn, that looks very, very scary. I guess they released him from the hospital. He flew back with the team. But yesterday there was a lot happening at that Indianapolis Colts game. And on that note, Colts were able to get a win. There's a lot going on. Able to get a win. That Arizona Cardinals team, Jacoby was spinning it. Oh yeah, Jacoby was spinning it. Absolutely. But Danny Dimes gets it done. Also Patrick Mahomes, he's come back into the scene and said, oh yeah, you forgot about me. You have, you have, you have forgot about me. The Kansas City Chiefs offense has obviously looked much better over the past few weeks than it had for maybe a year and a half or so. And I think if you listen to the Kansas City Chiefs people, where people talk about what the Kansas City Chiefs are saying, they feel better about their team now at this point of the season than they did last year. And last year they got to the super bowl, they got Rasheed Rice coming back. Back. Okay, so they still got the little trick, em, you know, slick them type operation. Patrick Mahomes is doing Patrick Mahomes stuff. But they got another weapon coming back who's very fast and very tough to get. So if you think about what Worthy's been able to do and Travis Kelce seemingly back to being Travis Kelce, Pacheco running this thing. Juju Smith Schuster, he's in the middle of some stuff, I guess after the game, obviously with Brian Branch, that was a wild scene. I don't think any of us could have expected that. But if you think about where this Chiefs team is here headed, it's like Patrick Mahomes MVP conversations are about four or five weeks away from being full throated brother. I mean, that is going to be coming around the corner.

[Connor]

Yeah, they're Coming. And they're coming big time. Because a lot. A lot of the, you know, talk, at least on, like, the Internet around Mahomes is, this guy's a baby. All he does is bait people and then pout to the refs. Mahomes is getting blasted week in and week out. And, like, under his own volition, like, he's running and seeking out contact. So if. If you were, you know, thinking that, like, Mahomes maybe thought everything was too sweet. Like, no, He. He just. I think they kind of reminded everybody last night, like, hey, we're not dead. We can hit that. That next gear when we need to. And. Yeah, I mean, once they actually get fully healthy here, look out for the Chiefs and Mahomes too, because he. He's heard everything everyone's saying, and this.

[Tony]

Is not a good thing. But he also leads the team in rushing as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, and the rushing goes back to Ty's point. He took, like, three shots to the back on one play last night right at the first down marker, and he just, like, kept going and then gets right up. Takes a big time shot. Gets up. I think Hutch hit him late. Yeah, Hutch hit him late. He got right back up. It's like Patrick Mahomes has a lot of dog in him. I think he's reminding everybody. Yeah, shit is sweet. I own a soccer team. I own part of the Royal. I own a baseball team. My resume is already a go conversation. I'm a dog, though, who still drinks Coors Lights. And it feels like they're getting better and better. The Lions. Are you guys completely out on yourselves after losing that game? No, everything's a. Okay. That was more about the Chiefs than the Lions. We'll bounce back next week. Well, what about Brian Branch afterwards? That doesn't feel like an McDonald. That's really funny. Bring that up, because everyone's calling Brian Branch selfish. But I really think what he was doing was a favor to everyone that's ever wanted to smack juju in the m. Okay. We should be thanking Brian. That's a good point. You know what's so funny?

[Darius Butler]

I didn't expect me.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you, Brian. Thank you, Brian.

[Con Man]

Love you, Brian.

[Pat McAfee]

Now, on that note, try to be nice. Mcdc came out and said, this ain't us, man. This will be. This is. We don't cheap shot people. Juju going, yeah, what up? Screaming at sideline. Oh, what up, Branch? How you doing, man? I just got a pretty good block on you about three minutes ago. You saw bang, boom. So Branch came out and Said there was a memory. He's blindsided. There was a block. Whatever the case, this is not good for ball, especially with two of our best teams.

[Darius Butler]

That can't happen right there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, all of this can't happen. You know? What's that? Getting tossed on your back.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. I mean, look, Brian Branch, obviously that can't happen.

[Pat McAfee]

He pulled his ears too when he was on the.

[Darius Butler]

That's bush league. But if you're a juju and you decide he was kind of in the moment there. Do I lay here on the ground? I don't know. I gotta get up. Game's over. I'm not getting the flag. So he came and attacked him, but you already have a teammate on him. You then can't get manhandled by Brian Branch with one arm when you're coming. So that's a bad look for juju. He was bleeding. It was rough for him, so it wasn't good. And you don't want. This is a black eye for NFL. For the NFL in general. So Dan Campbell, I'm sure he addressed it with Brian Branch before he went and spoke to the media as well. But yeah, I'll be interested to see how they handle this with Brian Branch because he is kind of in that Draymond Green kind of category when it comes to being fine, having different things going between and after the whistle. So I hope they don't suspend it, but we'll see. I'm sure at least a hefty fine, maybe even a suspension.

[Pat McAfee]

I agree. There's probably going to be a lot because the NFL cannot have this happen. I mean, fights after games used to happen back in the play. Look at the camera. Camera people. Camera people. Incredible work getting out of there. Honestly, that's an ACL to a camera.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, there's big bodies going in there. Patrick Mahomes ends up in the bottom of this pot, which once again goes back to us loving Patrick Mahomes. Okay? He's willing to jump in the bottom of this pile. Don't love that this fight is happening. Refs are already gone. Game's over. We're out of here. This game's over. We're reffing for 60 minutes. You guys handle your shit. Security gets in there, coaches get in there. It was full mayhem. These are two of our best teams. Obviously, it's very emotional. It's a physical sport. It's a tough sport. And then fireworks go off and say, hey, we get a big time win. Number two storyline is the Chiefs are still the Chiefs and The number one storyline is the Colts are going to win the Super Bowl. Okay? So that is all you need. Boom. Bang. And Jonathan Taylor, this guy.

[Con Man]

Wow.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I know.

[Pat McAfee]

We got him in the first round. He might be worth a couple now. He might be worth a couple going nowhere. He might be worth a couple of those right now.

[Darius Butler]

This guy's great.

[Pat McAfee]

He's exceptional. Bro. He's bro. He is unbelievable. His celebration is sick. I got people mocking it from the other team. He's seemingly untackleable. The offensive line's all over the place. Danny Dimes put him in the right position positions in our defense yesterday. Couldn't get a damn stop. Okay, well, once again, one of our guys got taken out before the game even started.

[Connor]

Yeah. Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a big piece. Literally you find out an hour and 10 minutes before the game. He's not able to play.

[Adam Schefter]

Why?

[Pat McAfee]

What happened? You hope he's okay? Well, he actually just got hit by Ovaltree. What do you mean? Yeah, it was bad where it was on who you were around like 35 yard line. Boom, it's over. So whenever that happens right before the game, obviously it's not easy. The Colts get a huge win and obviously we need to go going forward need that not happen. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might have more information on that and everything else that happened around the NFL. Senior NFL Insider for ESPN Michigan. Man, ladies and gentlemen, tough one against usc. Adam Schefter.

[Adam Schefter]

Hi guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Shefty, sorry we made you wait there. Had to get to the bottom of everything. The. The Ward injury. I am a pre warm up person because I'm a punter. Punters and kickers are out there a lot spot. I'm surprised that more injuries don't happen legit after watching this, but it is kind of organized chaos usually. What is the update here? We assume he'll be back or is just protocol going to do what the protocol is going to do?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, he's in protocol now and typically when you miss one game, there's a real chance you miss another one. So that collision could cost him two games there he went down, stayed down. I mean that. That's scary when you see something like that happen and. And to see him inactive before the game like that. I don't recall a team losing a player in pregame warmups no less. Two players to significant injuries. Obviously Ward had the concussion there and Anthony Richardson fractured his orbital bone stretching with a band of some sort. So I don't know whether he was stretching his hamstring or his shoulder, his arm, whatever it was, snapped back and fractured his orbital bone. So he's going to miss time now too. So that's crazy pregame warm ups and I always think that those are signs of things to come. And of course Colts had a tough time with the Cardinals, but they prevailed in the end. Played well enough to win.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Yes, they did prevail. Yeah. Okay. And maybe we do have the worst optics for a stadium whenever that roof and windows open for a one o' clock game in October. But I want to let you know whenever you're in there, it feels so cool. It feels so cool. There's a nice little breeze every once in a while that comes out of the sky. The football gods bless you a little bit, but I could see how on TV you would stink. And also I assume the camera people do not love having to adjust this every single quarter as they go forward. But nonetheless, it was rocking in Indianapolis. Let's go to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Obviously they were down all their wide receivers this week. Baker Mayfield still makes a play. What are we hearing about them? Baker, potential MVP conversation. Is there any other injuries or storylines that we should hit that you just saw us miss in our first 15?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I think the few things, obviously the Brian Branch Juju Smith Schuster incident from last night is under review. I would imagine we'll hear something at some point if he's going to be suspended, if there's going to be any suspensions. We'll probably hear something today on that. Obviously, if we go back to Jalen Carter in the first game of the year, he spit on Dak on the first play, basically and got ejected. So if this incident had occurred pre game, would Brian Branch have been ejected from the game? And I think the answer is probably yes. So if he would have been ejected before the game, I think it stands to reason that the league is absolutely going to consider a suspension here, especially when you consider that sportsmanship was a point of emphasis for the NFL in the off season, especially when it's a standalone Sunday night game. So the league is going over it. You could see the scene that occurs. There's an overhead view of it, two guys going at it turns into a scrum, a skirmish, everyone's gathered around. That's not what the league wants. At the very least, there are going to be significant fines and I think there's a real possibility that it's going to involve a suspension.

[Pat McAfee]

Full chaos, obviously, with a bunch of members of the media in the middle of it. Which worst case scenario for all parties there. Obviously, can't have it. Love it. They're passionate. But I'm excited to see what the league office does here, you know, because this would normally be, as, you know, more than us. As you're getting a phone call right here, is that a heads up on what the punishment is?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, again, you asked about the bucks. We're bouncing all over here. Buccaneers Emeka Buuka is not going to be able to play this week. Chris Godwin's not going to be able to play this week. Buck Yerbury not going to be able to play this week. They're hoping that Mike Evans can come back and play this week. Monday night against the Detroit Lions, a great game. And you mentioned Baker Mayfield. Incredible. He bounces around the league the way he does. And one of the biggest stories of this season, and we talked about it last week, Pat, is all these quarterbacks who have been reclamation projects who have become saviors elsewhere. Baker Mayfield in Tampa is the man. Sam Darnold in Seattle is the man. Daniel Jones in Indianapolis is the man. Mack Jones has played exceedingly well for the 49ers going up against Baker Mayfield and the Buccaneers yesterday. So these quarterbacks have essentially been taken off the scrap heap places that they've not been able to succeed. They've gone on to great success elsewhere. And that, to me, is one of the biggest stories of the season. And Baker's the headliner there in play for the mvp. This run right here, going through, people lunging out, getting the first down. I'm sitting with Teddy Bruski watching the game. Teddy went nuts when he saw that play, like he loved it. And then here's Tez Johnson, the unofficial MVP of the National Football League, going out and catching that pass. As Baker said, if you know you're 140 pounds the way Tez is, you should be able to move that fast. But he's throwing to Tez Johnson. He's throwing to Cameron Johnson. Who knew that the Buccaneers wide receivers would be the Johnson and Johnson law firm receivers that most people don't even know. And they're out there making plays for Baker Mayfield and the Bucs.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I love that Tez was able to hit that whisper in the wind just so easily, you know, And Baker was asked about it. He said, if I was 140 pounds, I'd be able to do that, too. Bet. Bet that looked like somebody that goes on America's Got Talent and has the capability to flip in full pads. And if the MVP Chance. Chance come down for that flip Every single time. I love what he's doing. The MVP flip from Tez. He was a dog at Oregon, ran a slow 40. Everybody talked about his 40 being slow, especially with us, while he was, us included, because we're like, damn, we did not expect that. He's getting behind defenses still and moving. Okay, active week last week in the moving and grooving world. Go ahead, con man.

[Con Man]

Yeah, Shefty. It feels as though this is going to be a massive week as far as trades go. Who's buying and who's selling? You used to hear that in high school, but who actually is doing that when it comes to the players this week? I mean, Tampa needs a receiver, it sounds like, especially if those guys are going to be out. Obviously, there's some, you know, drama going around with a couple teams. Philly comes to mind. And then there are teams like the Ravens who are kind of just underperforming, have some players that either might get paid or might not get paid. They just moved Odafe away last week, and he is a potential contract player. Who do you think is going to be the most active this week? And are there any big names kind of on boards right now, you think?

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. Well, if we look at it, last week there were three trades. And last year, leading up to the trade deadline, there were 18 trades in the month of October leading up to the deadline. The deadline is Tuesday, November 4th, three weeks from tomorrow. So. So again, I don't know of any trade right now that's close. Let's check in. But I would think that there will be trades that are made this week because there were last week. You've got the Chargers looking for running back, the Steelers looking for a receiver, the Eagles always looking for help. The Browns, alternately, are buyers and sellers. They're still trying to rebuild their roster, but I think they have some offensive linemen that might draw interest elsewhere. I think a team that everybody's watching is the Dolphins. They've got Bradley Chubb, they've got Jalen Phillips, and we'll see how that goes. What's up with that, Pat?

[Pat McAfee]

Just the Browns buying and selling. I'll take five new cards. Four new cards, three.

[Connor]

Whatever.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you willing to give? I'm willing to. We're open for business. We are open for business here. Just describing different states of teams is what you just did right there. Hey, this team's going to be buying. This team's going to be looking. This team's going to be looking. Those are two teams that are thinking about a future and when what do you talk about teams that are selling? It's like, okay, they're thinking about leaving. Browns are like, hey, listen, well, whatever you got. What do you want? Let's make a deal. What do you want? You want to. You want to move? You want to groove? We got Sean Watson coming back in a few weeks. Yeah. What are they going to do over there? Is there any word on that front?

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, he. He's a good month away from being cleared. Good for any, like, football activity. He is on the list. There hasn't been conversation about wonder if he'll play again. But I know there were some people last week when they saw Joe Flacco being traded in a move that Mike Tomlin did not approve of. Apparently today, according to his press conference, what he said, basically, he said that. And you want the exact quote.

[Pat McAfee]

Hold on. We're pulling up right now. When this happened just now.

[Adam Schefter]

It happened about a half hour ago. Roughly.

[Pat McAfee]

Roughly.

[Adam Schefter]

He said he said something the. Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us because it doesn't make sense to trade a quarterback you think enough of to make your division to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area. But that's just my personal feeling.

[Pat McAfee]

Here is the video. We actually just found it. Good job, Bruce.

[Con Man]

You know, to be honest, it was shocking to me.

[Darius Butler]

Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than me or us because it doesn't.

[Con Man]

Make sense to me to trade a.

[Darius Butler]

Quarterback that you think enough of to make your opening day starter to a division opponent that's hurting in that area.

[Pat McAfee]

But that's just my personal feelings. Okay, you nailed it, chef. And also, whoever typed that we could hear you. Yes. We need to get rid of in your journalist so you can talk to these people. They need to watch how they're breathing behind these mics. Okay. They. A lot of people record on cell phones or something and natural snores. We can hear that. Then the typing. Obviously not their fault. They're trying to keep up wpm. We can hear that. We need a little bit more directed audio, but I love that Tomlin did that. I. I appreciate the fact that's the first time I've heard him. Hey, this. This team's general manager direct, Andrew Barry has got to be some super genius of some sort. I love that. How's that make you feel, Steelers?

[Tony]

Because he doesn't normally, like, come out and speak his mind like he does, but he does it in riddles that you have to decipher, which if you're a Steeler fan you're good at at this point. But like, he does.

[Connor]

That's.

[Tony]

That's something you don't normally see from Tomlin, like coming out and kind of criticizing another team slash gm.

[Pat McAfee]

And he thinks very highly of Flacco. We heard earlier this year whenever. Yeah, he's. Especially with what he just did earlier this year. He told a story about how last year he told the defense to keep Anthony Richardson upright. Right. Okay. We want Anthony Richardson to get out of this game because we do not want Joe Flacco playing in this thing. It is clear that Tomlin has massive respect for Joe Flacco. Okay. Andrew Barry, this guy. Are we seeing the same thing?

[Tony]

They've had a lot of battles.

[Pat McAfee]

Why are we sending that now talking about Cincinnati and Cleveland. There's a lot of situations brewing. Go ahead, Tom.

[Tony]

Yeah, Chef. Just kind of want to get a temperature gauge on the hot seat of some of these coaches. No one in particular. Stefanski, McDaniel, Callahan, Glenn, Aaron Glenn. Is. Is anyone's seat hotter than the others? Are getting real hot.

[Pat McAfee]

Week 6 NFL season starting to get there.

[Darius Butler]

It.

[Tony]

Firings are in the air. Not so much in the NFL, but they're starting. You know, the firing bug is starting.

[Connor]

To catch some guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

I don't see it. Doesn't mean I'm right. But I don't see a coaching move being made anytime soon. Of course there are going to be coaches who lose their jobs. It happens every year, and it's become sport within the sport of the National Football League to see it happen. But I don't think. And for all I know, we're going to hang up here and someone's going to get fired. But I don't. I don't see a head coach losing his job. I don't see. You know, Brian Callahan obviously has come under intense criticism. I don't see that happening soon. Mike McDaniels come under intense critics. I don't see that happening soon. The jets just hired Aaron Glenn. Nothing's happening there. Like, who else are we firing here? What other head coach do we want fired?

[Pat McAfee]

Zach Taylor again, I don't. We don't want it.

[Con Man]

We're just saying these are people.

[Pat McAfee]

These are. This is fantasies.

[Con Man]

I've seen Pete Carroll get tossed around as this guy was talking a lot of shit for a guy that's two and four.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. You know what? Pete Carroll came in and took over a team that had a lot of holes and needed a lot of help. Like, that's part of the Problem. That's what Bill Belichick is going through in North Carolina. You take over a downtrodden, barren roster, put it back together, and Pete Carroll is a coaching legend. Like, he deserves the time to be able to do that. If he and they decide after a season that this isn't working out well, that's something they would decide. But Pete Carroll is not losing his job in season.

[Pat McAfee]

Good. I'm happy to hear that. We love Pete Carroll and also to all these coaches, good luck figuring it out. Out. You know, Aaron Glenn, I have faith in him, too. I think that end of half situation was. Let's get to the locker room. I. I don't care about anything. And then whenever him talking about benching a player and him, I think he's trying to get his players back in. That entire thing in Justin Fields. So that's why he felt obligated to come out and respond, I think. Is that probably how you're reading that as well? She.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah, yeah. I. I think you think about these things and, and. And honestly, in the moment when somebody asks that question after the game that was just played, probably, like it's emotional, like he's pissed off at that point in time. The best way to answer it, and of course it's easy to say in hindsight, is Justin Fields, our quarterback today, didn't work out, but we believe in this guy.

[Connor]

We.

[Adam Schefter]

We invested in this guy and we're going to be back at it next week. But that's not how he feels in the moment. He's so angry that he's like, what kind of question is that, man? And I think you step back and you think about it and you reflect on it.

[Pat McAfee]

It.

[Adam Schefter]

And. And you change your tone when you have a little bit of time to process the question and the entire situation.

[Pat McAfee]

Negative 10 net yards passing for Justin Fields yesterday. Okay. That includes the loss of yardage in sacks. They give up nine sacks to the Denver Broncos. Bonito is leading the league in sacks at eight.

[Con Man]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Had one yesterday. They're on track to have 85 sacks or something like that this season, which would obviously be an NFL record. That Broncos defense is tough. They are a problem. Advance. Joseph is a beast. He's going to be up for head coaching jobs again at some point. Okay, we got to get to tonight's game because there's only two minutes left here because we made wait so long in that hotel room. We're happy. You're living a life of luxury, too. You deserve it. Shifter. Go ahead, Ty.

[Connor]

Yes, Chetzie.

[Pat McAfee]

Quickly.

[Connor]

What does the injury report look like for both games tonight?

[Adam Schefter]

I want to compare the luxury of my hotel room to the luxury of Pat's hotel room for college game day.

[Con Man]

They're terrible for game day.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I don't have them. That's why you got to get the buzz, brother. Need to get the chef.

[Con Man]

Your buzz sucked in a basement one time.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I was in one of those rooms a couple times and I said no more. Yeah, I'm going to get a bus.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah. So some, some interesting injury situations tonight, obviously. Like the Buffalo Bills have a couple of what they call pregame decisions with Dalton Kincaid and Curtis Samuel at wide receiver. Commanders say game time for Deebo Samuel, who's got the heel injury. The Bears have some of those situations with Colston Loveland, their tight end, the rookie from Michigan. But the Bears are getting back TJ Edwards, their linebacker and Kyler Gordon at cornerback. So they're having some reinforcements added on the back end. But some big question marks going into tonight's game. A little bit more than usual for a double header of this stature of magnitude.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, well, good luck with the coverage. We appreciate you joining us and we can't to wait wait to keep up with Adam Shefter with all the breaking news. You're the man.

[Adam Schefter]

Thank you, man. Appreciate it.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, is Michigan okay?

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, why aren't they okay? Yeah, they had a tough weekend.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. I love Shiron. That was tough though. But hey, only going to continue to grow kids. 18 years old, 10.

[Connor]

Yeah, yeah. SC is probably better than everyone thought they were.

[Pat McAfee]

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[Heather Gynich]

Hey, fans. Welcome back to Fansville's cheers and tears.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, okay, so like, everybody deals with. With losing, right? To a rival and a last second field goal, whatever. It's fine. I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice cold Dr. Pepper.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Mmm.

[Heather Gynich]

Those 23 flavors are, like, so delicious.

[Pat McAfee]

They totally wash away the pain of your college football team taking a big fat L. College football.

[Heather Gynich]

It's a Pepper thing.

[Adam Schefter]

Football.

[Pat McAfee]

He's the greatest. We're lucky we get a chance to chat about it in football season is certainly delivering. I think baseball is happening as well. Let's go to the talks to table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Congrats to your Packers. They are now one and one against Joe Flacco on the season after a big time win against the Cincinnati Bengals. Baseball's happening, though. Over the weekend. I heard Big Dumpski, Big Dumper did some magical things with a guy wearing a shirt right over his shoulder that I don't think necessarily was anything that Cal Raleigh would know anything. Anything about.

[Darius Butler]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

He hit a bomb last night. What's going on in baseball?

[Con Man]

He did.

[Connor]

Yeah. This was game one of the alcs. Yeah. Very inappropriate shirt behind Dumper. The guy actually pointed to it right before the pitch. And then, boom. Dumper goes yard.

[Con Man]

What is it?

[Connor]

It was a butt plug.

[Pat McAfee]

It was a butt plug.

[Connor]

Yeah. Chest piece, rocket.

[Pat McAfee]

It did look like maybe one of those lava lamps. It could be a lava lamp. We're not 100. Sure. I guess what that is. A lot of people on the Internet saying things. But the thing that looks like a lava. Lava lamp there looks like other stuff as well.

[Con Man]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Including Big Dumper. Monocle, right? Yeah. Which monitor. Yeah, yeah. And monocle as well. But nonetheless, Big Dumper did what Big Dumper do.

[Connor]

Yeah, exactly. Big Dumper goes yard when they're in a 10 hole and kind of just silences the crowd a little bit in Toronto, you know, hey, we're here to stay. Massive shot by Dumper. And then Seattle kind of just Jorge Polanco, who has been an active absolute dog in the playoffs, single to bring in a run. And then he wasn't done either. He. He'd grab another CI single later to take the lead to 3:1. And the Mariners win 3:1. They take game one. They are leading the Blue Jays 1:0 in the ALCS. And then we have Dodgers and Brewers Starting here very soon.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. What happened to Cubs? I heard they lost. Yeah, a lot of Cubs fans were all bummed out.

[Connor]

Yeah, I saw a lot of.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of that.

[Connor]

There was a lot of that. Oh, because on top of potentially, like, their big guy who they traded for to bring in and thought maybe they were going to, you know, extend him, one of the best players in baseball, he basically said after the game, like, yeah, it was a fun season. We'll kind of see what the future holds. So they're probably going to lose Kyle Tucker and then, boom, Andrew Vaughn, who's actually a white sock. So that kind of just you know, a little. Little extra rubbing in. There he goes. Yard. Brewers lead 2, 1. And then Bryce Tarang later also went yard. And Pete Crow. Armstrong, he almost had this one. You remember a couple days ago, he almost robbed one. Oh, never mind. That's about 60ft over the fence as well. Basically, the Cubs ran.

[Pat McAfee]

That was 60ft.

[Connor]

Yeah, it was so. So far. If he would have been like. If he would have been like 65ft tall, he might have caught it. So I guess maybe that's what he was thinking. But unfortunately, the Cubs. The Cubs ran into the Miz.

[Darius Butler]

Effort.

[Connor]

Yeah, effort was great. The Cubs ran into the Miz. The Miz came out and pitched early. Gave up a. A homer to, say a Suzuki earlier, but then just cruised after that, and he got a. A big win. So the brewers move on, face the Dodgers, two best teams in the nl. Great.

[Pat McAfee]

So we got Brewers, Dodgers, and then we got Mariners, Blue Jays. Okay, baseball's happening.

[Connor]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Shout out. Baseball. We appreciate it. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys. A.P. tone. Public money. Not good money at this point. What was the stat you reiterated in the first hour?

[Tony]

Yeah, so this weekend, teams that were getting 60% or more of the public bet against the spread were 2 and 5. This weekend on the season, they are now. Let me get it right. Okay. 15 and 35.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. That's NFL football we're talking about there. That is NFL Sunday. If. If you're seeing a lot of people thinking the same thing, there's a reason. There is. And it's a. Sports books. And we. We don't know what AI they're using.

[Connor]

No, we don't.

[Pat McAfee]

We don't know if they're chat. GP turning. We don't know if they got rock. Rolling rock.

[Connor]

Ch.

[Pat McAfee]

We don't know if they got Google's thing, whatever. Maybe they have their own AI that we don't know. It's been Pretty good.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And it loves when everybody's going one way. It is love that. To be clear, I feel the same way on game day. You know, whenever I see the graphic and I see a lot going the other way, I feel real good. Strictly because this has been the sports books way, this has kind of been the way football has been this year, which is why it has been electrifying. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler's here. Good to see you. Huge week weekend for Indiana football.

[Darius Butler]

Yes, it was huge. Ranked highest ever, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Number three in the AP poll that came out today. The Indiana Hoosiers led by Kurt Signetti and Fernando Mendoza. Sarat Cooper Jr. Fisher on the defensive side. He was literally everywhere combat, you name it. This team is filled with dogs and Signetti is certainly one that is leading them all. It is a cool day to be an Indiana sports fan, especially if you know Colts are five and one which is the best record in ball. The Bills can become the third team tonight that are 5 and 1 alongside the Colts and the Bucks. Steelers are 4 and 1. They've already had their bye week. They got a long way but the Colts legitimately stats and record wise top team in the NFL. And then Indiana just went into Oregon, had the biggest win of the season, biggest upset of the season and their story is now going to be one that's going to be try to be emulated throughout all of nil and transfer for transfer for portal football. Now Kurt Signetti's name is immediately mentioned every year whenever another job is available. Joining us live from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen. He's a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion Ryder cup winner and a former President of Ohio, A.J. hawk. Hawker, good to see you. You did a great job picking the NFL spread and obviously college. You got every game right dude. Congratulations, proud.

[AJ Hawk]

Thank you very much.

[Pat McAfee]

Way to do that Hawker. But Indiana goes in Oregon gets a huge win. And obviously I think there's a lot of tradition especially around the Big ten. Indiana's on a football team right in that kind of the thought. AJ Hawk.

[AJ Hawk]

They are definitely known as a basketball school for sure. But I think we are changing that pretty quickly.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so too. Especially in massive moments on prime time. You know last year against Ohio State, I mentioned it and then obviously against Notre Dame the two biggest moments when everybody was like let's see, let's a lot of let's see people on Indiana last year and they lost those games and I said they the bet on game day because that's real Against Ohio State, it was like a return that was bobbled. Some other stuff that was bobbled. It was like they were very much in that game with Ohio State who would clear go on to become the national champions. It's like, but this Indiana team this year, they got a little bit more chemistry, they got a little bit more depth, they got a little bit more maturity, and they got a quarterback that is unbelievable. So whenever I watched Oregon, Penn State play, and we're going to get to that here in a matter of moments, I watched Penn State's offense not be good at all. Okay? Like, I watched Penn State's offense with my own eyes not be good. They weren't good on the field and it wasn't good on the sideline. Like, even when they're playing catch on the side, nothing was really good. I thought now, now granted, I don't know how many of those I see. So I judging college football, NFL football, it's like, how often do I see all this? And in my eyes it's like, this isn't going as good. They get to, you know, double overtime with Oregon, that Penn State team with limited offense, Drew Aller had one drive where it was offense and they get to overtime. Indiana's offense, real deal. So I thought if Indiana could protect Mendoza, he'll be able to do some. And they did. And they showcased that early. And I just think Indiana is a very, very good team now. On that note, whenever you win, everybody starts looking at your roster, especially in the modern world, especially when you're trying to build a football juggernaut. It's not just the players, it's the coaches. Sig's name, he's already being thrown up for another job in the Big Ten.

[Con Man]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

They're the highest ranked team, second highest ranked team in the Big Ten behind Ohio State. And his name's up for. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is college football analyst, expert pundit, legend from the Big Ten, who's also Pittsburgh Steeler fan. Ladies and gentlemen, Heather Gynich. Heather, how you doing? Who, who, who, who? Hoocher. Okay, let's talk about that. Obviously, it's an incredible year. Certainly would like to hear your thoughts on this Indiana Hoosier culture being able to be turned as quickly as it was under Signetti, who literally came in and said, google me, I win. And that's exactly what he's done the entire time. Kirk Herbstream gave a stat in the opening of game day. Indiana is 1 in 71 in these types of games. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Indiana just started their football program last year. This is a brand new football program. It's a wonderful time obviously in Bloomington for the football fans. Basketball is going to be great as well. Going into Oregon, getting a huge win is great. But now Signetti's name is up for the Penn State job. It's going to be up for every single job. And nobody has talked to Signetti's family and we haven't got any quotes. I assume he's very happy at Indiana. I think he has said that a lot of times. Very thankful for the opportunity. But this is what comes with success, especially when a job like Penn State opens up. Heather. So let's talk about that. Penn State's job, if he didn't win a national championship, was he going to be gone this year, you think? James Franklin. And on that note, this has got to be what, one of the highest touted job openings there is in all of college ball.

[Heather Gynich]

Heather, this is a fantastic job with tremendous resources and the ability to win. And to answer your first question, look, these conversations didn't get serious until after the loss to Northwestern because they lose to ucla, right? And there's a sense of they're stunned, disappointed. Right. Not rock bottom yet though, okay? We can win north, beat Northwestern, get back on track here and have a fighter's chance against Ohio State, get this thing back. But then you lose to Northwestern and the atmosphere became so toxic, right? With the fans, with everything. It became so volatile. But here's the thing, Pat, this to your point about this being a good job. The resources here are tremendous. Financially speaking, Penn State is on par with Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon. This was a business decision, as hard as it was to make, but they have the money to hire anyone they want. And when you talk about Sig saying, yeah, I'm happy at Indiana, Matt Rule might say, yeah, I'm happy at Nebraska. Remember Lincoln Riley?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Heather Gynich]

I'm not going to lsu. I'm going to go to USC instead.

[Connor]

Right?

[Heather Gynich]

So you just don't know. And money makes all the difference.

[Pat McAfee]

College football does seemingly have the most lies coming out of coaches mouths at press conferences because they are forced to speak. And there's a lot of things happening behind closed doors. And the coaches can always say, well, I actually don't hear anything because Jimmy Sexton's actually doing all the talking and he doesn't tell me until later. And this decision's already been made, so I don't even know what to tell you. I apologize. Let's keep it move it, it's kind of just a part of the business now at this point is that coaches leave and go to other jobs that are seemingly better jobs. You just rattled off a bunch of jobs that this is on par with. That's. That's a Big Ten powerhouse that can do whatever it wants. A.J. hawk. Oh, how's Ohio State feel about this? And what is your question for Heather? AJ Yeah, I mean, I think Ohio.

[AJ Hawk]

State people are okay with it. They understand Penn State's coming to town November 1st. That's all they care about is beating them. Whoever the interim. We understand the interim coach will be there, but Barry Smith. Yeah, Coach Smith's gonna get the boys playing.

[Pat McAfee]

I get it. He coached the Gateway Gators high school football team to almost a complete blowout of the plum Mustang, where one of their guys actually touched the ball seven times, had six touchdowns. So Terry Smith understands the X's and O's. He can scheme it up. This guy's been coaching a long time. Western Pennsylvania legend Terry Smith is going to be up there as interim head coach. Coach. They still got everybody, but I guess there's been a lot of decommitments. Go ahead.

[Tony]

I think Justin King was tackled twice that game, once by you and once by Joe Hadley.

[Connor]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

So I don't know if Joe got him, but I. I hope so. I would pull for Joe Hadley in that note. Anyways, Terry Smith's a dog. Just know. November 1st, the Lions are coming in to you, A.J. but I think obviously the future is what we're all looking ahead to. Go ahead. A.J.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. With that being said, Heather, you mentioned obviously, Coach Signetti, Matt Rule, they always say, like, hey, don't fire somebody unless you, you have a couple ideas who you may bring in. Do you know, like, the small handful of, of people that they may be looking at. Is this going to be a big wide net? Is it going to take a long time? Like, what's the time frame look like in getting a new coach in there?

[Heather Gynich]

Well, they're not rushing this decision because what they don't want to do is zero in on a coach right now who might have a downward spiral in the second half of the season. Right. So let it play out. See how it goes. And their ad, Pat Kraft said today publicly that they will absolutely give interim head coach coach Terry Smith a chance at this thing. And Pat Kraft said, I will do everything I can to help Terry Smith run the table and win the rest of the season. But don't count out a name like Texas A and M coach Mike Elko as well. He's done a fantastic job. I would not rule out anyone at this point. Wide net. No rush to make it. All the money in the world to do it.

[Pat McAfee]

Kirby Smart might be heading up there to Penn State.

[Connor]

You never know.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that what you're saying? Are you saying like that when you're saying you wouldn't rule out anybody? There's obviously few select people that are at places and we just understand that they're pillars. You're talking about any name that is in reality is an option for Penn State at this point.

[Heather Gynich]

Absolutely. I mean, look down the stretch. Is. Is Kaylin DeBoer happy at Alabama at the end of the season? I mean, Dan Lanning's probably pretty set at Oregon. How. Happy Friday. I don't know the answer to all these questions.

[Tony]

Would anybody leave?

[Heather Gynich]

Would they leave? Leave? Right. That's part of the question.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, let's pivot away from the Penn State situation. James Franklin, we appreciate the hospitality. Hell of a run up there in Penn State, dude. James, not easy to go in when he went in there. And obviously the expectations are what they are at Penn State. It's just like it is at Ohio State. Even though Ohio State's been there. Just like it is at other places. Alabama, where they've actually been there. Penn State's never been really to the mountaintop in recent history. And their fans and boosters are like, we've done everything we possibly can to get you there. We'd like to see it happen. They move on. It's loud and he's been there a long time. I think it was like 70 employees in that building that obviously he was running. I mean, that's a big business. You have to, like, kind of swing in a different way. Now let's talk about some other college football news happening in front of us, especially here in Indiana, the state of football at the moment. Go ahead, Debuff, stay here.

[Darius Butler]

Go over to South Bend. You know, the Irish. Fighting Irish had two losses to two top four teams. Now, how much better those lost bosses look now, what's the pathway for the Fighting Irish to get in the playoffs?

[Heather Gynich]

Look, Notre Dame right now has the best chance of any team in the country to run the table according to ESPN Analytics. And if they do run the table and finish 10 and 2, they've got a 50% chance to make the playoff according to the all state playoff predictor. And I think those numbers line up with what the selection committee would think, because, listen, listen, there's going to be a lot of really good 10 and two teams. What helps Notre Dame right now is, well, first of all, they have to beat usc. But the fact that USC is ranked and also Navy, the undefeated Midshipman are hanging around out there, that could also be a ranked CFP top 25 opponent.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's talk about CFP and seeds and everything like that. It obviously gets very, very heated at the end of the season. You already heard Coach Saban putting some seeds down on Friday in the show. He was, he was putting some seeds down. And if you look at the SEC schedule going forward, lot of numbers next to teams that have to play against teams with numbers next to teams. So it's a lot of big time matchups coming down the stretch in the sec. Big Ten, a lot of these teams, Notre Dame as well. You kind of got the meat of the schedule almost out of the way. Go ahead, Ty.

[Connor]

Yeah, Heather, where we stand right now, and we heard before the year that, you know, Tony Petiti and Greg Sankey were kind of saying like, hey, with this playoff, like the SEC and the Big Ten should each get four teams in, period. But where we stand right now, do you think is the Big Ten a three bid conference given what's happening to Penn State and kind of just everyone else, you know, there isn't really a, anyone standing out outside of those top three teams. Is it possible the SEC is going to get like, you know, six teams in the playoff? Maybe. Or how do you think this is going to shake out?

[Pat McAfee]

Sec? SBN Top.

[Connor]

I'm a Big Ten guy. I don't, I, I don't want it to be true, but man, Penn State, you really fucked us here.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but Indiana came true.

[Connor]

And I'll tell you what, that, that Iowa lost Indiana looks a whole lot better right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, don't even.

[Connor]

They might run the table. They look good, they look good on Saturday.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, I'm sorry, 36, nothing or something, right?

[Connor]

37.

[Heather Gynich]

Well, to answer your question, every single Saturday night after these games are over, I put out a projection. And for each of the past couple of weeks, how half of my top 12 at least has been SEC teams, right? I'm borderline on Tennessee. They would be on the bubble. They're at number 12 right now. Would get knocked out if the playoff were today for that fifth group of five champion. However, like, who needs automatic qualifiers when you've got six SEC teams already in? And that was what Shane Beamer, South Carolina's coach, told me this summer when I asked him what changed your guys mind when you Saw models from SEC commissioner Greg Sankey and he said, why would we limit ourselves when if you look over the past stretch of the College Football Playoff, we could get more than four teams in. And I think that is a very realistic scenario this year.

[Pat McAfee]

They're going to love it. It's going to be loud. It's going to be loud. I think home field advantage matters a lot in this thing because obviously playing in the south is a difficult task. Playing up there in the north, we saw also a difficult task for Tennessee heading up there. And the fact that Indiana got Notre Dame, damn, if that would have been another. Oh yeah, if that would have been another warm weather climate had to go up there to Notre Dame. What Was it, like 8 degrees? So cold, so freeze. That's a game changer. I think this College Football Playoff is going to be special. Even if there are blowouts each week, we're seeing massive names take each other on that we very rarely get to see. That's been happening all season. Now, old school rivalry happened this past weekend, had a much different outcome. I think that most people would project it, especially with how Arch had been playing. Go ahead, con man.

[Con Man]

Yeah, this is kind of a two parter. First, did Dr. Shin kind of screw over John Mateer in Oklahoma? Did he do the surgery and say, hey, you're gonna, you're gonna be just fine, you're gonna go throw for 300 yards? Yeah, exactly. Is he from Midland? Does he think he's better than us because he's from Midland? But then second part of the question, probably the more realistic one. Texas is still on, you know, the national championship odds. And I, I think everybody kind of just assumes, but there they are right there below Notre Dame, who you just said has a 50% chance to make the playoffs if they run the table. Is Texas not dead yet? Is there still a feeling that Arch can figure this thing out and Sark can get these guys going in the right direction? They might be able to rattle off some big wins, enough to get them back into the College Football Playoff.

[Heather Gynich]

Texas is not dead yet. But you're also talking to somebody who did not drop Texas. Texas out of my own top 25 last week after the loss to Florida, because I thought they had a good, good call to your first question about John Matier. Not about his doc. It's about the Texas defense which got after him, forced him into some mistakes, and I think exposed some things in that Oklahoma offense other teams haven't been able to. But Texas has the 15th most difficult remaining schedule and Guys, you all watch football. You know that if Arch is not on his rear end, he can make some throws. He was very good. When he was not under duress. That offensive line had to make strides. It seemed to start to do that. Can they consistently put it together? Because the minute they lose that third game, this is a different conversation.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so let's chat about Arch Manning. Maybe getting some protection, maybe making some magic, maybe Heismaning Peabody has a question for.

[Darius Butler]

You know, coming into the year, he was the betting favorite. He was the favorite for Pat. I had DJ Lagway, it haven't gone their way either one of them. Matir Mendoza, kind of been a rotating. Who the hell is the Heisman favorite? Who is your Heisman pick? I hear you on ESPN radio, so I'm hoping for one answer here, but who is your Heisman pick right now?

[Heather Gynich]

Heather Reuben Bane Jr. I am a Heisman voter and I will vote for the best player in the country, offense or defense. And he is a disruptive force. It is not necessarily in his stats, but he gets his hand on the ball. Force, fumble, interception. I mean he can do it all. He draws other players to him and he's playing on what could be the selection committee's number one team and one of the best defenses in the country.

[Pat McAfee]

So you're going most best player as the most valuable MVP. Your argument this J.J. watt has done this argument numerous times for the NFL's MVP where there was potentially some years where a defensive player should have won it because they were by far the best player that Grace State football field. But then the whole argument goes, well, it's valuable is what the V stands for. And quarterback touches ball every single play. So Bane is certainly, hell yeah. Awesome and an absolute monster. He doesn't touch the ball every single play. I appreciate the fact that you're saying, hey, listen, listen, I'm going with best player. I'm a voter and this is what I'm going with. I appreciate that type of transparency. I think we like that. I think we like. How many voters are there?

[Heather Gynich]

Ah, too many. There's like 800 and some voters.

[Con Man]

Well, I mean and especially when we heard about what the. The one voter that we heard that was college as well, not Heisman, but.

[Pat McAfee]

We don't know actually.

[Connor]

Yeah, the AP voter, she might have a Heisman vote.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we have no idea. I mean that is something. 928. 928 voters. Okay.

[Darius Butler]

Are you one of them yet, Tom?

[Tony]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

What the hell, I gotta be. Am I the only one on Set. I gotta be the only one on game day set without one. Right? Saban probably doesn't have one.

[Connor]

Saban pride doesn't.

[Pat McAfee]

We didn't stay like that. I don't want to be 930. I'm okay.

[Tony]

Well, I pointed number at that point.

[Pat McAfee]

Storyline coming out of the weekend for you is we fired James Franklin and everybody's on a seat hot going forward. Is that. Is that your storyline or what is. What are you thinking about as we move forward?

[Heather Gynich]

Are you talking to me?

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[Heather Gynich]

Well as we move forward as what happens in Penn State can that. Can they pull it together? Look they've got Iowa, Ohio State, Indiana. Can they finish a respectable murders? Listen, I. I covered the worst season in school history at Penn State. I was a beat writer for the center Daily Times when Joe Paterno was three and nine. Okay. This is not that yet. Can they change it? This is different because Penn State had a national championship team. That's the big difference here. Can they get those guys to play to their level? There's dudes all over the field.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. They all look the part when I was up there everybody. They all act back the part and they have 112000 people in there through a renovation right now. I think they're going to get it right. They got fantasy football happening over there right now. Yeah. Well coach you won't well players because transfer portal you'll be able to do what you want to do. Is that ever going to work to win a national championship? We shall see. Heather, we appreciate the hell out of you.

[Heather Gynich]

Thanks man.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen. Hey how about Steelers 4 and 1? Let's go.

[Heather Gynich]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

You're excited. You think they got a chance win a Super Bowl. You think super bowl winner don't shake it. Okay. All right. All right. Heather didn't laser.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So she's just enjoying the moment.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Living in the.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't want to piss off football guys. For instance. There's a lot of football left AJ There's a lot of football left. That Pittsburgh Steelers Team 4 and 1 certainly looked the part. Aaron Rodgers dropping a couple in a bucket obviously had some misses. The field was absolutely horrendous. When's Pittsburgh going to become and start taking football serious? That's a good question. When's Pittsburgh going to start taking football serious in that stadium?

[Dan Orlovsky]

I don't know.

[Tony]

I caused quite a storm storm on the Internet saying pit needs to get out of that stadium. Yes. I understand that Steelers do not own the stadium. And pit and Steelers both play paid to use that stadium. But I think Pitt should pay the Steelers to even be allowed to play football in that stadium.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, if you're going to share a.

[Tony]

Football or even in the city, like pick and go play in Johnstown or.

[AJ Hawk]

All that for all I care.

[Tony]

Steelers need to play in their own stadium with their own beautiful grass and get that school out of there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but what about like. Like there is modern technology with the turf that can make this a lot. It is super gr. They tried. They tried super grass. It was actually worse. No, but what if they did more turfy super grass. They tried. It was. It was a hybrid. It did not go well. I'm saying what if it was more turf though? What if it was 80% turf, 20% super grash?

[Connor]

Like super Duper would get pissed.

[Darius Butler]

You can't have that in Pittsburgh.

[Tony]

I mean, our dudes and the boys just beat Florida State.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that?

[Tony]

Our dues.

[Pat McAfee]

The. And the boys just won a big game.

[Tony]

Oh yeah, the football team. I've got no problem with football team. It's their fans.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, go.

[Tony]

Go to a game if you actually care about.

[Pat McAfee]

There's a good chunk of space downtown they could just pave and turn into a parking lot and they could put a stadium right there for the pit Panthers.

[Tony]

Yeah, it's.

[Pat McAfee]

And then they could come. They could come use Acor. They could come use Acer for their bigger games. Yeah, cuz everyone, there's like two games a year where their fans show up at the games. I. From my understanding, West Virginia, whatever, it's. West Virginia shows up because West Virginia people go as well. And it also still has a thing. And if the team is good, there'll be a primetime game against like Clemson or something. They'll fill in there. But there's not a lot of people filling that stadium up. I think that's very, very known. That's not just West Virginia guy talking about this. That is absolutely. There's a lot of people dressed like seats whenever you watch a pit Panther football team. And they do have pit Panther football fans though. And they are a nuisance.

[Connor]

They need their own stadium.

[Pat McAfee]

They want to be competitive. Put the stadium on campus. Can't have Chris Boswell. This guy's one of the greatest in history. Yeah, there's a top five of career percentage field goals. Chris Boswell is on there, obviously. Eddie Pinero also on there from the San Francisco 49ers, which I did not expect. Justin Tucker on there, Harrison Bucker on there. And number one, I guess it's Cameron Dicker, I think, is that who. Cameron Dicker, who's hit a game winner. Another one against the Miami Dolphins this past weekend. We got a lot of great football happening, AJ And I don't know if you know this, you saw the board pretty good. Good, brother. Did you know that?

[AJ Hawk]

No, I honestly felt like I saw it pretty poorly when I was going through it in my brain.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Well, obviously we got two games to pick this evening, so we can certainly swing this a little bit and I can come back and tie you, but you're currently 7 and 6 with a 9 and 6 possibility on around the bent. So let's go, A.J. this is multiple weeks in a row where you got it figured out.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I'm glad I got two games tonight to try to, to pad my stats a little bit, but yeah, it's. There's some tough ones out there. I feel like I should have picked, should have picked this a little bit better. The Jacksonville one killed me. I, I didn't like that pick.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Jacksonville kind of surprised me. But I think that Seattle team is really good. Like I think that's what we're learning. They're able to handle travel. They go into Pittsburgh 10am game, win. They go into Jacksonville, get a win. It's like Sam Darnold is a real deal. Go ahead, brother.

[Con Man]

One of him, both stats was that the Seattle Seahawks are the first team since I think the 2006-2008 Patriots to have nine straight road wins while winning the turnover battle.

[Pat McAfee]

Unbelievable stuff. And I think McDonald's career on the road is like.

[Con Man]

I think that makes him like 10 of 11 now after beating the Jags.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe even 11 of 12.

[Con Man]

Maybe even 11 to 12.

[Pat McAfee]

His team's real road warriors and they're taking long ass halls. Seattle's so far away.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, it's weird that he's not especially with the home field advantage that we all remember. Seattle, his record at home is kind of the opposite that which is super weird. But yeah, Sam Darnold, when we all saw him play his best football last year, we all kind of had questions about men. Minnesota letting them go, moving Cooper cup in there. His receiver numbers aren't really off the charts, but what he does even in like the blocking game and all those things that kind of don't show up on the stat sheets are great. And then Jackson, Smith and Jigba, we talk about him a lot. He was a dog last year with Gino. Then DK moves on. He becomes a clear cut number one and he's been unbelievable not only in the slot. Most people view him as just a slot receiver on the outside. He is just as good.

[Tony]

Leading league in yards.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, he's. He's a dog.

[Pat McAfee]

Joining us now is the quarterback guru, the football expert man who's always on television during the football season. He's really handsome, likes to eat when he's on with us. I don't know if he'll be able to do that from a hotel room currently in Atlanta because he's calling tonight's game between the Bills and the Falcons at 7:15 on ESPN alongside Lewis Riddick and Chris Fowler. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. You look so cool, dude.

[Darius Butler]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

God, the sun shining. Look at the clouds. Looks beautiful down in Atlanta. They're gonna open the top of that thing up. Mercedes, dude.

[Con Man]

They are.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I guess we found out today in the production meeting they're opening up the stadium and I guess that's a surprise because it doesn't happen the roof often, if at all, ever.

[Pat McAfee]

So it has a balloon knot type open. Yeah, that's how people describe it. A balloon knot is how is what they say it most likely depicts. I hope you guys get a drone shot above that as it opens, you know, because that'll be. It's pretty sick. It is a marvel the way they built that stadium. I think it's only like maybe 1.5 or 2 billion, 3 billion over budget or something like that, whenever they piece it together. But it is beautiful. We love that stadium down there. Properly priced and it's hosting a big one tonight. The Bills could become the third 5 and 1 team in the NFL. How do you feel about the way the Bills are playing and this Falcons defense? Are they going to be a problem for Josh Allen?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, I think this is a. A difficult matchup for Buffalo and a good matchup for Atlanta, I think. So number one in talking to Buffalo, the thing that stood out because we all thought going into the conversation with them coming off a New England game was this is a team that's, you know, had their run because they've been great on turnovers and takeaways and really good on penalties. And that wasn't the case against New England. And it was interesting to hear them all talk about how they felt like they just didn't play the how the way they're phrasing it was, you know, run into the football, helping each other up off the pile, blocking through the whistle. Like they didn't feel. They did that against New England and they were all like, listen, turnovers that's something we emphasize. It'll take care of itself. Not tripping over that, but I think that'll be interesting to see how that plays out tonight. Offensively for Buffalo is like that. They don't think that they played the how of how they play football to their standard last week.

[Pat McAfee]

Week.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Dude. Atlanta is interesting defensively because, you know, for a team that is so young and so talented, like, they unapologetically have said they went all in. You know, like, they. They took that first round pick of next year's trade to go back in and get Pierce from Tennessee. They want to go after teams physically and be like the fastest team defensively in the NFL. And you got Walker and Pierce. They're two rookie defensive ends or outside backers. They. They believe that as a team and as a staff. Like, they're just on the cusp of breaking out here and like, really starting to turn it on. So they're. They're fast and they're athletic defensively. I want to see how they match up against Buffalo, who just wants to maul you running the football and then offensively flipping it. I don't know if I've ever heard a coach talk about running an offense through a running back the way that Atlanta runs their offense through Bichon. You know, they. They are just like, we run every play through Bajan. Like, we. We want to move them, we want to throw it to them. We can throw them real NFL routes, We can get them in a slot, we can put them as a receiver. We want to throw them screens. We want to hand it off to him. We would snap it to him if we could. And so, you know, Buffalo's got a defense that has struggled against the run. If Oliver plays tonight, that's huge. But I think Atlanta can have success running the football against them tonight. And this is the number one and number two offense in the NFL when comes to time of possession. So I think, like, possessions will be huge for both offenses. Trying to score points and obviously being good in the red zone.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you say Bijon? Because I think I say B. Bijan. You're saying Bijon.

[Darius Butler]

I have.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I have absolutely no clue the right.

[Pat McAfee]

Way to say it. You're there. You met him, did you not? I mean, you're acting like a journalist.

[Darius Butler]

He came out this year, I think, and said. I think it's how Dan has said it.

[AJ Hawk]

Cuz we've been saying now.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. So.

[Pat McAfee]

Sick. That's a good. That sounds.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I mean, if you go for like the pronunciation, the pronunciation thing on my board Is, is that.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that called? What's that called? If you had to guess, if you had to guess what the pronunciation thing is called on your board, just what that is described as the pronunciation thing.

[Dan Orlovsky]

But here for his name, it's B, E, E, Z, H, A N. Say.

[Pat McAfee]

That would be Bijan.

[Connor]

That's wrong, right?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And I think there's one person that makes all those boards and that one person I think missed the one interview that Bijon potentially did whenever he talked about that. Let's talk about the other side. You talk about Bijon being every single position for him. James Cook since Joe Brady has become the offense coordinator, has been cooking his ass off. What's the prop that you found tonight for James cook in the first quarter? Convoy.

[Con Man]

He currently is +1:44. To have over half a receiving yard in the first quarter.

[Pat McAfee]

That feels right. Like with James Cook. I think you think tonight, I mean, obviously Atlanta's defense, you just talked about how good they can be and you think it's a problem potentially for the Bills. Are we going to get some magic tonight, you think? Especially with how Atlanta views Bijon and Josh Allen's in primetime. I mean, is there over under 49 and a half. Obviously that's a lot of points. Do we feel. Is that how you feel and is that what they're expecting?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, I do think it's an offensive football game. I really do. I think because if you think about it from Buffalo's perspective and Cook. Right. You know, I don't know necessarily how Atlanta is going to come out defensively and play. Atlanta is coming off of the buy and again young pieces on their defense. You could sit there and live in the world where you want to play zone and keep everything in front of you versus Josh Allen, you're going to get smoked. This is offensive line that's one of the best in the NFL. They'll just continue to hand it off to Cook and Josh has become elite at that. And so then there's the reality of like, okay, well you got to go challenge them. And they. You might sit there and say Buffalo doesn't have a guy on the outside that scares you that much. But then Buffalo's so good at motions and Shakir and Hook out of the backfield and Kincaid and so I think that's going to be interesting tonight is watch how Atlanta that wants to try and play Buffalo defensively. And I talked about it before, just I, I think Atlanta's offense, dude, six first round picks on their offense.

[Pat McAfee]

Six.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I mean they're they're so talented and they could run the football so well. And Buffalo's defense really. Defense really struggles against stopping the run again. No. At all. For the past couple weeks. Ed's a big, big, big deal. But if Milano doesn't play, that's a huge deal for their linebacking core. And so, so I just think Atlanta can have a lot of success running the football as well and I think this could be a very high scoring game. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

DBOT's got the last question about your game tonight.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. You're talking about the run game and how they're using Bijan Bajan, number seven back in the backfield. What are you seeing From Michael Pennix Jr. We know exactly who Josh Allen is, but what are you seeing from Michael Penix? I know they run a ton of pistol. I don't know how you feel about that now, but how do you feel about that offense as a whole with Michael? Michael Penn has been the trigger man.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, they run pistol more than I think twice more than anybody in the NFL. I, I've, I've kind of shared my thoughts on it. I understand the pros and I believe that there are cons to it. I think Michael is this still really young when it comes to NFL reps. Obviously everyone knows really big arm down the field. He's more accurate down the field than he is closer in those short passing range or passing routes. And so he finally hit some of those two weeks ago against Washington. I'd like him to move Michael a little bit more. I feel like Michael kind of catches the ball and in that shotgun and pistol world and when number one is there, I would tell you this D but I think he's throwing the ball like fifth fastest in the NFL. And then also I think he's hit like been hit this year second least in the NFL behind Sam Darnold. So for a guy that's kind of a big, armed, big bodied guy to throw the ball downfield, they don't do it a ton. And so it's a little bit more of a catch and throw offense at least through four or five weeks of this season. I'd like to see more play action. I'd like to see them try to stretch the field vertically. I'd like to see them move him off of that launch point. You know this is a defender, like if a quarterback's catching, you know, 40 snaps a game and throwing it and 38 of them are just kind of that five yards behind the center, I just think that's advantage Defense and so, so I'd like to see them throwing the ball a little bit more. The thing I'll be paying attention to the most for him tonight is in their short passing game. Everything under 10 yards, can he have elite focus and ball placement on those things like it's the 40 yarder downfield because the big throws downfield, he's really good. But those short throws right now I think that's something he has to be really good at. And they, they think that he really has to grow in for the them.

[Pat McAfee]

Fernando Mendoza for instance. Yeah, he's putting that ball on a face mask basically every single time somebody's running there. The elite accuracy is what you're referring to. We're not saying Penix doesn't have that. He does. And that's what was so special about that Washington run. He was thinking about the Roman Empire all the time and dropping that thing into a bucket. The easy ones seemingly are always the problem because that's like the high focus ones. It happened to me. I think it happens to a lot of people in different jobs. It's like this seems easy. Don't let your brain win. Don't let your brain win. You still got to have incredible stuff. There's another Monday Night Football game on tonight that you will not be able to watch in real time. But I'm sure tomorrow morning you have full takes about the entire four quarters. AJ Has a question about the Bears in command.

[Con Man]

Yes.

[AJ Hawk]

Tonight when you're watching the Bears commanders on your flight home. When you're rewatching, I guess what should us in real time we're watching this game. What should we be paying attention to? We know Caleb has been playing well. The Bears on two game win streak, they seem to figure some things out. What will you be paying attention to?

[Pat McAfee]

And you didn't deserve that.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Number one, how does Caleb play under pressure? That that's been the area that he's grown the most in this year. You know, this whole off season. AJ it was everything about Caleb's got to play in rhythm and in timing and he's got to play faster. If you kind of watch his tape and then you look at every single number that has value to it, he's actually playing a little bit slower than he did last year. The only area that he's playing faster and is dealing with the pressure. He's playing not only faster but much better, making much better decisions. The ball coming is coming out of his hands quicker. I think there's a lot more answers to their offense. Armstrong For Washington as a pass rusher has been very good. Very good. Dorrance Armstrong. So how does Caleb handle pressure? I think it's advantage matchup wise. Chicago. I've talked about this and D but knows it. Washington's defensively living in a little bit of a world of. Of they want to be a man coverage defense. I don't believe they have the horses to play that style that they want right now. And if they do, there's advantages for your tight ends and your backs in the past game, there just are. There's advantages to take shots downfield because they have defensive backs that want to make plays on the football so you can take shots with double moves and whatnot. So does Chicago hit some shots down the field on a double move to the tight ends and backs have a lot of success in the pass game. And then for Chicago defensively, you. You better handle Washington's 4x1 stuff. Washington gets in these four by one formations and they stretch you sideline to sideline horizontally. And there will be a sixth offensive lineman on the field when they're doing it, it's kind of like how much I gotta love. I love what Pittsburgh's doing offensively with their stuff. And all of a sudden you get like a run at you with six offensive linemen. Jaden could be a runner and then you could have a perimeter screen. It's like you're getting this vertical stretch and this horizontal stretch at the same time. So I think how Chicago's defense handles.

[Pat McAfee]

That Cliff Kingsberry in his bag, bro. Yeah, you know, what's the guy's name? How Mummy.

[Connor]

Yes, the air raid Mummy.

[Pat McAfee]

Cliff kind of comes from that world, doesn't he? Got that entire thing spread out. Take a couple college setups, put it into the NFL. Then also we got a quarterback that can handle absolutely everything. We got a couple great matchups here on Monday night. I mean, legitimately, these are very good matchups. Caleb Jaden's awesome. Can't wait for that. Would watch that. And then obviously Bill's Falcons, you got double header next week as well.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, doubleheader next week. Tap at Detroit, in Houston, at Seattle.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, okay. We're starting to hit it. We're football spawning its rhythm. We can't wait to watch both of those games. You just mentioned a team right there that you didn't have a lot of positive to say going in. We started to wonder if you had maybe personal gripes against a couple people that are maybe in that building. You just said something positive and you put one of Your like cryptic tweets, dot, dot, dot out. Go ahead, Tone.

[Tony]

Yep, Dan, I would say I will bite. You did do one of those things where you put out the tweet where no one knows what the hell you're talking about. It could be, could be bad, could be good, could be somewhere in the middle. So I just wanted to, you know, get your opinion what one, what this meant.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I really, really like Pittsburgh's offense.

[Tony]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

Whoa, D, that's already smacked. And Aaron Rodgers over there, you know football, baby. Mount Washington.

[Dan Orlovsky]

It's really, really, really impressive. It's like, I think the way one, there's no question they know who they are, their identity, what they should and should not do. This first play the game. I love it. So, like, the way I kind of categorize the offense after a couple of weeks now is like it's creatively cautious. And that's meant as a positive and a compliment. Here's the way I view it right now. They started this six offensive line package where there's six offensive linemen on the field and sometimes there's one tight end, sometimes there's two tight end. This is like three or four weeks of it. Now when they started it, there was really only one play out of it. Right. They're doing a lot of this. I'm going to get to this. There's only one play out of it. Yesterday they had six different plays out of that six offensive line package. So, like, I love when teams take simple things and just. Just make them look complicated to the defense. So now they're doing things, at least from an offensive perspective, as simple for them, but it's complicated to the defense. I think the second thing is this. And D. Buck could speak to it a little bit more from a defensive perspective tone than I can. But like, their pass game is really one of two things. It's either quick game, like right now it's happening and if you play zone, Aaron's finding a completion. If you play man, it's one on one or they're moving to pocket it. They're getting Aaron outside. And so it's. It's. That's the cautious element of it. And the thing is they, they see it so well. Like if you're going to play DK one on one in their quick game, Aaron's going to throw it to dk and they just think that they'll get those creatives or explosives out of that. But rarely do you see them just drop Aaron back in the middle pocket.

[Pat McAfee]

Hold, hold.

[Dan Orlovsky]

It's just not who they are. I think it's really, really, really smart offensive football in Pittsburgh right now. Very impressed.

[Pat McAfee]

And it all revolves around how do we keep Aaron alive.

[Connor]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, because the offensive line was not great early. It's like we need. How do we even know if Aaron's a good quarterback for us if he can't do anything because he can't protect him? Well, we got a 6 foot 7, 320 pound tight end that we can add in here. They start doing that jumbo package basically on every play.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, man.

[Pat McAfee]

And then basically say, hey, now we can protect them. Let's start drawing up plays. This might be the evolution of football here. This might become the next step. Especially with how easy they've made it look and how good they've made it look look. This is the best Aaron Rodgers looked in years. Yeah. This is the best Smith offense has looked in years. This is the best the Pittsburgh Steelers offense has looked in years. And they're doing it in their own way, which I think is special.

[Tony]

Yeah. I think it all kind of really starts with Darnell Washington and how they could use him because he's obviously an offensive tackle that runs like a tight end. And you saw it on the first play there yesterday. So he's playing like 90% of the snaps now. And then you got Johnu who they're getting a lot of end arounds with and doing some quick stuff with and screens too, which is awesome. Awesome. And then Spencer Anderson is the sixth offensive lineman that, yeah, bring in. He had 17 snaps, I believe yesterday. So yeah, they know who they are. They are not like Dan said, there is no five, seven stop, seven step, drop straight back where Aaron has a chance to get clobbered off the edge.

[Pat McAfee]

A.J. hold on. Dan, one quick thing here. A.J. tell me about Aaron moving, bro. Like legit. Because at the beginning, I think last year with the Achilles, I think there was a lot of people calling him over. He takes a lot of pride in his old athleticism, does he not, A.J.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, he's got that sneaky athleticism too. You know, whatever you play, he can play basketball, dodgeball, whatever you do, he can do it. See, I think we're seeing him like we're seeing him. It seems like he feels very, very healthy. He's moving around well, man. That's the thing. I think people going in weren't real worried. If he could move and elude any pressure, he obviously can go ahead, Dan.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm sorry about it.

[Dan Orlovsky]

No, I think the premise of their offense right now is just Being very efficient. And that's, that's why I go to that six offensive line, tight end or double tight end package is, you know, their philosophy is, hey, let's get four or five yards because then they can get into a quick game and if they're going to play zone, it's a first down. Because Aaron's seen so many defenses and he knows the vacancy of zone. And then it now like as I watch it, I'm like, oh, this is why we trade for dk. Because then we're just creating all these one on ones. There's not a lot of teams that are going to be able to cover DK one on one. And, and you know, you're just constantly moving, Aaron. And so it's, it is a reality where like they are, they do not want to be in third and long. No, no team really wants to, but it's just a conscious effort of them constantly being like, let's be efficient. I, I really, last year they were doing some like having some success and you guys remember me saying like, hey, it ain't good enough on offense. It's not going to beat teams that actually matter. I feel differently about this group. Like I, I watched this offense for the past three weeks and I go, this offense can be good enough to beat a Buffalo, a Kansas City, an Indy. That because they're, they're efficient. They're efficient, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Aaron Rodgers currently sitting at 150 to one to win the MVP. Oh man, they're currently four in one.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

If they have 13, 14 wins and Aaron Rodgers brings the Pittsburgh Steelers back into playoff and super bowl contention, there's going to be a lot of buzz around Aaron Rodgers winning the mvp. He's not the only player though. There's a lot of guys making their run for it right now.

[Connor]

Yeah. Dan, you could argue that Dak Prescott is playing the best football of his career. And unfortunately the Cowboys give up 40 to 50 points every week. So is that basically their recipe for success? It's like, hey Dak, we're going to need you to throw six touchdowns downs every week, you know, to give us just a sliver of a chance to win. And then on the flip side, Bryce Young and the Panthers, is that the type of win you think they can finally kind of turn the tide for that entire franchise? Because that was massive.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I was so impressed with what Carolina did yesterday. I was so impressed with, I mean, their offensive line. I promise you will be on AQ's top five group. I'd be surprised if they're not number one. They kicked the absolute crap out of Dallas's defensive front and their double team game. I mean, they're double teams were just. You rarely see in that league where double teams literally move defensive tackles five, six, seven yards down the field. They were moving people at the line of scrimmage. I wrote down the name number 87, too, because I don't want to be disrespectful, but Bryson Tremaine, for them as a blocker, as a wide receiver, blocker, was absolutely off the charts with their tight ends. Thought Bryce was really good. Ted McMillan looks so smooth. I mean, Ted McMillan. Don't overthink it, guys. When you watch, he looks so smooth. Rico was outstanding. They dominated at the line of scrimmage. I think it's a huge win for them. Absolutely. Now, like, they get a little bit momentum going in Carolina. I'll say this about Dallas. I don't think Dallas can. I think Dallas has to adopt the Detroit philosophy with Dan Campbell.

[Pat McAfee]

Campbell.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I really don't believe anything less than 4th and 4. They should not go for. They should go for everything. 4th and 4 or less. Your defense is not a good unit. It's not going to get better. Teams know it. It's a good offense. Dak is playing good. George was outstanding yesterday. He's making himself a ton of money. I really don't believe, like, once you get into scoring position, Aubrey's sensational. I think Dallas should be 80% going for it on 4th and 5 or less.

[Pat McAfee]

How about onside Q kicks, too? Just do it.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I don't think you can. Oh, you can nowadays, right?

[Con Man]

You.

[Dan Orlovsky]

As long as you declare it.

[Pat McAfee]

Now you're losing, though. You got to be losing, I think.

[Dan Orlovsky]

But no matter the time of the game, if you're losing, you can do it in the first quarter if you're down.

[Pat McAfee]

I think so, yes. I think if you're losing, you're allowed to do it. I think they changed the rule from the fourth quarter to open it up, because I think teams were like, well, there might be a time where our defense can't stop a nosebleed and we would like to be able to get the ball back. Because if they start on the 50 or if they start on at 35, it doesn't matter. It's three plays. So there's a chance that that has been taken from us with this new kickoff rule. I will say, though, there's more electricity from the kickoff rule. And I will say this about the Carolina Panthers. Rico Dowd Bell coming into Our lives. Being who he is is awesome. How did he describe this Dallas Cowboys defense where he said all he wanted to do was get a win against them boys because he's playing arrogant. They went buckled up up. They need to be buckled up. And if they're not buckled up, we're not punting. We're going for onside kicks. Connor has the last question for you here. Dan.

[Con Man]

O yeah, Dan. Oh, love when you say yesterday it's the best. But Justin Fields and the jets, it's been quite the scene. I think a lot of us thought at the beginning of the season maybe Aaron Glenn is rowing in the right direction. Maybe Fields and Garrett Wilson are going to work out and turns out they fucking suck again, dude.

[Pat McAfee]

James.

[Con Man]

But what do you think about that whole entire situation? Are they just going to sell everybody? Breeze hall to the Chiefs, Garrett Wilson to, I don't know, the Bucks? Do you expect that to happen? Because we actually are not. We. Pat actually apologized to all of England because this wasn't football. It was the most disgusting thing that's ever been graced solely on its own as its. As its own game without anything else on. It was the worst display of football I think the NFL has ever put on actual stat. 7 less first downs in the history of international football.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, that offense offensive tape was a total disaster. It's as bad as an offensive tape as I've watched in years. I'm surprised because I really enjoyed time with them a couple of weeks ago having Monday Night Football and was really impressed with Aaron Glenn. It's not equating to wins right now, so I, I can't defend that. But that offensive tape was absolutely terrible. Garrett Wilson's career is like dying there. He's being wasted town wise. I've defended Justin a lot and I'm. I don't think yesterday's performance is totally on Justin, but Garrett's open like Garrett's open on tape yesterday. And we like my thing is this with, with dude, if it's man coverage, just throw the ball to him. I don't care what the route says. I don't care what the Reed says. If it's man coverage, throw him the ball. And we're like the final play of the game. Throw him the ball. And so the jets got a really difficult situation right now because it's not going well offensively. They. Here's the thing also, they paid the perimeter before they paid the front. Really like they paid Sauce and they paid Garrett. They're two really, really, really good players. I don't necessarily know if that's the best way to go about rebuild. I think they have to entertain trading everybody of value. Absolutely. Because you're owing seven and. Or Owen six and it's. It doesn't look promising.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And they're trying to turn it around anyways. They're trying to change the entire culture. And remember, Aaron Glenn told Aaron Rodgers, go ahead and pack it up and get the hell out of the building. And.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Well, I just don't know, Pat, when the player says it, like, when. If you're Garrett Wilson, listen, you've done five or six years of this now.

[Pat McAfee]

Just signed a new deal. Just signed a new deal. Just signed a new deal. This is just like Myles Garrett. I think it's hard for people to find any empathy for Myles Garrett because he wanted to go somewhere. Remember, he wrote the entire letter about saying, it's not just about being all Pro or something like that. I want to win games. And then everybody's like, oh, Myles Garrett's leaving. Myles Garrett's leaving. Then he gets 40 million a year, resets the entire market. It's like, all right, Myles Garrett knows what he's signing up for whenever he goes to Cleveland Browns, which is the same thing Joe Thomas signed up for, even though, you know, he wanted to win. I'm not saying they don't deserve to win because of how great of the football players they are, but I think it's just like Tyreek going to Miami. When Tyreek decided to go to Miami and get the biggest check, everybody. It's hard to have any empathy. It's like, hey, you decided to leave and go get more money. You made that decision to chase the bag. I think that is. It's hard for people to feel empathy for that, you know, like, Garrett just signed a deal.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, no, I mean, it's a fair point. I understand all that.

[Pat McAfee]

Holy shit.

[Darius Butler]

Breaking.

[Pat McAfee]

Adam Schefter told us in the last hour. I don't forecast any coaches getting fired anytime in the near future, but there's a chance that I get off this call and I get a text and somebody's been fired. They have. You can guess it, Callahan fired. Tennessee, we would like to say Coach Callahan, obviously following Mike Vrabel down there in Nashville. From what I've learned about the people of Nashville and how they felt about Mike Frable, not only the coach, but the human he was and how connected he was to the community, and obviously the unceremonious exit that he had from the Tennessee Titans, and then also being able to earn the number one seed for the Tennessee Titans in the AFC when he had like a hundred guys on the ir like, Vrabel was, I think, beloved by Titans fans. I think there wasn't a lot of positive. I think Vrabel was certainly one of them in the community. So whenever he's just kind of kicked to the curb and then Callahan's brought in and it goes the way it goes. And then ran, obviously. And it goes the way it goes. I think this guy was swimming upstream a lot. Okay. And obviously it didn't work out. And the way he handled, I think, and like, kind of represented the Titans. I don't think a lot of people in the community were like, we just went from Vrabel to this guy getting into a Paul Kaharski every day. So not that Vrabel didn't get into it with Paul Koharski, but Vrabel also put the pads on, punch people one game and everything like that. So I think this. This was kind of a. Is the fit still a thing that is obtainable? And then also, how's the product on the field? They've been not fun to watch like Cam Ward. Fun to watch. He's been miserable. This might help him out, actually. This might make his life a lot better, even though it has to certainly suck. First firing of the NFL season, Dano, you thought it was going to be maybe Miami? Is that what you thought?

[Dan Orlovsky]

I'm not giving away what I thought, but, yeah, smart.

[Connor]

Smart.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I mean, I know Cali. I've played for Cali. It's a results business. They were bad. They were bad. God bless Cam Ward. This is why quarterbacks fail, man. Now, first year of the NFL doesn't matter. And it's a coaching search. Everything will be about Cam Ward. They got to get a lot more talent on this roster, but it'll be all about Cam Ward. The next hire will be all about Cam Ward.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ Callahan was 4:19 as a head coach with the Tennessee Titans. And obviously, if he won the next 15, he'd be at.500. That's. That seems like a little bit of a tall task. Is that what the Titans are? Go ahead, Dano. You're. You're.

[Dan Orlovsky]

No, let. A.J. let my brain think for a second of coaching replacements.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Why, Dano, what you go through the list in your head of who is going to take the job off the Tennessee Titans?

[Connor]

Who?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I guess. Dan, who do you think they will be targeting here?

[Pat McAfee]

That's a good question. It's a good question, A.J.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I Mean, immediately this is off the top of my head. I would go, Joe Brady, offensive coordinator from Buffalo. He's under Gruden throw. And I don't know Gruden. I hear Gruden's name constantly.

[Pat McAfee]

Gruden, Nashville.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Gruden wants to be back in coaching. Like I have heard that from multiple people that he desperately wants to be back in coaching.

[Tony]

D.C. for the Chargers.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Clint Kubiak has been great men from the Chargers defensively, but you gotta. With those ones like you, you gotta make sure that the offensive coordinator is a stud because everything's gonna be about out. Cam ward.

[Darius Butler]

You go. First time head coach.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Mike McCarthy's out there.

[Darius Butler]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that who you think?

[Darius Butler]

I. I mean, I would want to go with an established coach. He's been there before.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And he. He would. Look, I assume Cam Moore would be something that get him going. I assume that be so fired up. Conor Connor was getting upset that you didn't say. I mean, you.

[Con Man]

You suck. Dude.

[AJ Hawk]

Wake up.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean?

[Con Man]

I need a second to.

[Pat McAfee]

To use my brain to get together some coaching. Some coaching.

[Con Man]

I mean, come on.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, then A.J. gave him enough time to think about it. He didn't think about.

[Dan Orlovsky]

And he did like 10 seconds. Relax.

[Pat McAfee]

It did come out of nowhere. Schefter said there's. It's not going to happen. And then he said, but there's a chance. And it did. So we apologize to Coach Callahan. Obviously the football world is what it is. You know that as a coach, especially coming up in the family of coaches, results oriented business. 4 and 19 in stake. Okay. And it didn't feel like it was going to get any better. Maybe Nashville finds something that's a better fit for them. And Dano, we can't wait to hear you tonight. On the call. Brothers, you continue to really brainstorm all the right answers. Use them tonight. Unload on that thing. We can't wait to hear you and Lou in Fowler. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, that's dan loves Mike McCar. The diner in Nashville.

[Connor]

No.

[Darius Butler]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean tootsies. Oh.

[Darius Butler]

I don't feel. I don't feel sorry for coach getting fired anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's tough.

[Tony]

Amen, man.

[Pat McAfee]

49 mil. James Franklin getting be a professional golfer if he wants.

[Connor]

That's a pretty sweet gig.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Pick up and move your family lot easier. 49.

[Connor]

Yeah, right.

[Con Man]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, we'll see you tomorrow. After tonight's big games, we're going to make the picks on the other side feel like we really nailed that they did. Yeah. I know a lot of coaches, you know, cuz it's not just the head coach, obviously. All the assistants, everybody. But they're all getting paid too.

[Tony]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, I, I have some friends that are assistant coaches that have been fired from places and they're getting paid like two and a half million for the next three years. And they're like two and a half million is pretty good amount of money, bro. It's true. Yeah. I'm. I'm golfing. Yeah.

[Connor]

Play golf every day.

[Pat McAfee]

I see my kids, I'm doing that entire thing. And then maybe that third year where I'm making the two and a half million for it, I'll get back in and I'll try to find my way back. But honestly, man, I might start a business.

[Tony]

Yeah, we have, we have seen the residual effects at times. Takes on the kids though.

[Pat McAfee]

It's not good. Yeah. Mid is very much a. Oh God, yeah, true.

[Con Man]

Yeah. But he, he's the outlier in his family. Everybody else is like smart and good at sports and stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

Engineers and stuff. Yeah.

[Connor]

A bit of an engineer on his own. We've seen him put together some of like the chairs and the tables in here. He's actually pretty good at that.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that place that has all the. From Sweden.

[Connor]

Ikea.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. It's like make him beat ikea.

[Connor]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Which actually twice on Sundays.

[Con Man]

Attaboy.

[Darius Butler]

Mitt's been bringing it.

[Con Man]

Yeah. With that being said, there's two chairs in the gazebo. The screws fell out, you can't sit in them anymore.

[Darius Butler]

That is true.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But that's IKEA football right there.

[Con Man]

That's true.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you. Mick conquers these things.

[Connor]

He does.

[Pat McAfee]

Like for real. He. He's. And he'll stay focused.

[Connor]

Yeah. Takes a lot of patience.

[Pat McAfee]

Like if. But Mid is one of those guys, which I do think he learned from his dad, special teams coordinator. Bounced around a lot of jobs. I mean from Utah, Montana to Atlanta, St. Louis, Indy. Now he's in Vegas, I think. I mean he's been everywhere he grew up, I think mostly here in Indy whenever I was playing through his high school years. So I think he calls it home. But I think like if you give Mid a task, I think growing up in a football family, like, yes, always workers. Feels like, especially because, hey, it's a hard road, you know, it's like almost like rock stars life. Like. Yeah, we're gonna have to pick up a man move. We don't have any home. We're Rolling Stones. Like that's how coaches feel and act. James Franklin up there, how many years was he up there for? 12, I think.

[Connor]

12.

[Darius Butler]

Long time.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a long time. Long time, dude. 70 people in his, his building. Yeah. And he's overseen.

[AJ Hawk]

And now all of them have to wonder what's next for me, like, is the new guy going to keep us, like, all of that?

[Pat McAfee]

And is Terry Smith automatically in charge of all those people because he's the.

[Con Man]

Interim head coach or does he go to craft?

[Pat McAfee]

He had his craft.

[AJ Hawk]

It's so hard in college, though. How do you shore up all the recruits? How do you get the decommitments back? Like, how do you, what do you do? Like, that's why you want to get somewhere as fast as you can, but you have to wait till someone makes a long playoff run if you want to try to steal a big time guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe that's why they did so early, though. They're like, let's get this out of the way now. So then, you know, throughout the season we can work on the answer, you know, because whenever transfer portal opens up, we need to have answers by then.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Because if we're doing it after that, obviously you're just like we saw with North Carolina. Carolina. And this just hit us right now. AJ this is me thinking of this for first time. I'm assuming other people have thought of that. But the fact that they did do it early in these other schools. Did it early. You having it figured out by first transfer portal window, especially if you have access to all the money, is a huge deal. So, like, your current decommitments, it's like, all right, we'll see. But you might be able to get them back depending upon who it is. And whoever you bring in next, they're going to want their people. It's an interesting, interesting, interesting little game here.

[Connor]

Yeah. That's like the D commitments ultimately do not matter at all because like, Penn State isn't going to wake up tomorrow and they're like, hey, actually you only have $500,000. Build your roster next year. Like, that's not happening. So, like, whoever the new guy is, whenever that gets decided, they're still going to have the pick of the litter for all the best players in the nation and with the transfer portal. But I'm sure that that is tough that now you kind of just, especially if you're one of these guys who's maybe interested in it, you're kind of just on like pins and needles, like, okay, well, I have to focus on what I'm Doing with my current team.

[Pat McAfee]

No, remember, they're not talking. Remember, coaches don't hear any of them.

[Con Man]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

It's just the agents behind the scenes. What are your thoughts?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, they're set up for success still. You still got the resources. You still have a good recruiting pipeline. You. I always look at coaches where they starting in the area. You got a great recruiting state with Pennsylvania and Ohio right there. But. But I know they want you saying. You guys were saying they wanted to fire him early. He could not show back up and be the head coach today after losing to UCLA in Northwestern and back to back like that.

[Connor]

Just Northwestern at home is.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, that can't happen.

[Con Man]

He was there for 12 years.

[Pat McAfee]

This is his culture. This is his building to his credit.

[Tony]

Go ahead.

[Connor]

Sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

What they were to what they are now. Like I said, thanks for the success and congrats on the success up there. And I immediately got a bunch of people. Penn Staters are like, what's the success? Because that is legitimately how people feel. It's like, I don't know, dude. They're getting $700 million renovation in the stadium. They're still selling out. They were in the playoffs last year, you know, national championship hopes. It's like, that's not easy to do. And the fans are like, well, how come Ohio State and Michigan are in there every single goddamn year? That. That is literally all the Penn State people think about. That is what their thought is. Like we. We can't even brag that we are the Big Ten. Like, we can't even do. Especially Oregon comes in last year and Oregon does what Oregon does. It's like that's where Penn State wants to be their donors and everybody feels like they are AJ and it's like that's the expectation and that's just one of those jobs. Even though they haven't got there in a while and they.

[Tony]

They didn't have first. I just looked for the six seasons before James Franklin got there. They did not have more than eight wins. So like he took from them from that to where they are now, which. And now they're like looking for a guy to take them from what James Franklin did to a national championship contender. But as far as like the D commitments and stuff like that, as soon as you get a new head coach, those are going to be your first calls. And I. The thing that's happened, there wasn't a lot of coaches fired last year. There's a lot this year and they're all happening right now because everyone wants the first Pick the litter on that next head coach. And if you miss out on that, that's probably led to it as well.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ I'd like to say we appreciate James Franklin for the kindness he has shown our show. I would like to see.

[AJ Hawk]

He always been great. He legit, has always been very open. Really cool.

[Pat McAfee]

I agree. He's been very open and talked to us about everything and we've acknowledged like the pressure on him too because we got a lot of Penn State people around us. Like I got. I have a lot of Penn Staters around me. I grew up obviously in Pittsburgh. AQ Shipley comes in every single week. It's like I, I hear how these people feel on a regular basis and the way they think should be happening. And then I lost the Northwestern at home. It's like this guy just forked over $25 million to build the stadium up and you're going to lose, lose the Northwestern in here. I don't.

[AJ Hawk]

I think it was out there winning big time games. Sig's out there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[AJ Hawk]

Winning big time games. That does not help at all. We know that.

[Pat McAfee]

How about that game, dude? How about Sig dude?

[AJ Hawk]

For real?

[Pat McAfee]

This is back to back years. They had to rebuild twice though. They got more.

[AJ Hawk]

They got guys winning in Oregon. That right there, like that win, right. That's a, that's a program win. That, that's going to be on the wall forever. That like.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

And I think Sigdo is going to underplay. I just know the road victory or whatever. But, but that's a huge deal to go into Oregon and beat them, especially being Indiana. Like you said, we think of them from before times as a basketball school and now it's a legit football school.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of people saying, yeah, they're a good team. It's Austin though. Like, this is Austin. People don't win in Austin. It's far. The weather is going to be what it's going to be. The crowd is insane. It's a Pacific Northwest crowd. So the crowd is always going to be loud. It feels like that region up there has good hooligans, good fan base, good loud crowd and everything like that. And it's like, I don't know, it just felt like it wasn't a night game.

[Connor]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, it felt like there was some things that were kind of leaning. Like maybe this is when Sig's team says, hey, we've been here before, we can do this. Like that is a, that's a huge step for a team to take.

[Connor]

I think and you can say what you want about Iowa, but, like, playing at Iowa is a hostile environment. It's a bigger stadium than Austin is. Like, for them to kind of like, that was like their know. And Sig said it after they beat the shit out of Illinois, he was like, that game is in the past now. Like, we'll have. We'll have a. We'll have a true test next week in that road game. So I think it's after you do that and you win the way they did, it's like, realistically, we can go anywhere and we can beat anyone. I don't know if everyone else in the country feels that, but, like, in here, we know we're good enough to go anywhere and beat anybody.

[Pat McAfee]

And after the game, Fernando Mendoza and Sarat had a little bit of an interview. This is how it went. Also want to give a quick shout.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Out to my guy, Pat McAfee, for.

[Pat McAfee]

For shouting us out. Oh, Kizzy's friends, my guy Steve Levy, and also Boston Connor. Let's go.

[Con Man]

For life, baby.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's go, brother.

[Con Man]

IU and Sig forever. Iu, Sig and Signetti forever.

[Pat McAfee]

No, but I'd like to say whenever I heard that, I was watching it live. And then there was Jenny Dell gave a hilarious, all right, ESPN people on CBS right now, because there's people that are in her ear or that are just not happy that that is happening at that moment. I thought she handled it hilariously and greatly. But whenever you talk about Mendoza and the boys hearing us, I think that's cool. But I also think that because we're in Indianapolis, like, we see them, you know, Like, I think I got eyes on this Hoosiers team more than maybe most people do, because I'm turning on the local news and I'm watching Mendoza fucking spit. I mean, I'm watching it elite. I'm watching this. And I'm like, is everybody seeing this? And then Illinois loss. A lot of people picked Illinois. I was the only one who picked Indiana up there on game day. And it's not just the boys on the desk. It's like a lot of people are like, that was funny, Sig. Iup. We're not doing that again. They wanted to count them out. And then they just steamroll them. And then like you said, Sig, everybody's just on the next week, like, ah, that wasn't. And then people are picking Illinois to win.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The next week, it's like, well, are we going to say anything about this? Indiana teams for real.

[Connor]

Real.

[Pat McAfee]

It's Like, I think the quarterback makes their offense very, very dangerous. And on defense at all three levels. Had a nice tape on it. It's like, all three levels, they got experience. They got all Americans everywhere. It's like they feel like they're for real. And I think Sig, although he'll never say it, I think he feels much more comfortable in those massive games as well.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah, for sure. When you. When you get a win like that on the road, like, there is no environment that you're. You're not confident going into. And having a quarterback like Mendoza, I mean, he always picks the right spots. He's very accurate the ball. And physically on defense, I feel like they can line up with anybody and punch him in the mouth. And we always talk about, you know, being on the field when we call the playoff games. Just looking at both squads, just physically, I still don't think Indiana matches up getting off the bus with these guys. But when it comes to actually playing and turning on tape and seeing who's punching who in the mouth, they've done it at the highest level. This is a huge, huge win for Sigma. But a job like this, like Penn State, those are going to be the car. He is going to be your hottest him.

[Pat McAfee]

Green rule.

[Darius Butler]

You should see the house Matt rule.

[Tony]

They did give him a RA raves after last season. And Cuban recently, because of Sig. I said he was going to put more into the ni.

[Darius Butler]

Who do we see being the next coach?

[Connor]

Well, I just saw something about Sig at Indiana that, like, it made a lot of sense. It was like, yeah, you could. He could go to Penn State for an extra. Extra what? Three million bucks a year, Whatever it is that they're going to decide to play or pay him. But, like, for an older guy, the chance for, like, they might end up naming that stadium after signature.

[Pat McAfee]

Created a program.

[Connor]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, created a Big Ten football program.

[Connor]

His legacy will be insane if he decides to stay at Indiana. And we've heard him, like, he's got a beautiful house, you know, like, why, why. Why would he be looking to. He's. He said it in Indian.

[AJ Hawk]

It was.

[Connor]

They're showing it from last year. He's like, you know, it was kind of tongue in cheek, but he's like, why would I leave Indiana? He's like, we are an emerging superpower right now. Like, you know, everyone kind of wants to be a. So for him to do that, to then go. Go to Penn State, like, it just doesn't make sense.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it feels like Indiana is all aboard The SIG train.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. President Ad Cuban's biggest nil booster. And I think the Signettis are as well. We talk about him talking about his house, but every time we talk to him and his family, they love that area. Yeah. But once again, that has happened in college football.

[Darius Butler]

He is 64.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

So that, that part, Matt Rule makes sense. It's tougher, really tougher to move at that age.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know.

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, Matt Rule is. Is a Penn State guy. He's already commented how much he loves Penn State. I understand he loves Nebraska, but if they. If Penn State wants to pursue him hard and give him what he deserves, like, I can't. I wouldn't be shocked.

[Pat McAfee]

Matt Rule and Pat Kraft back at Temple. Did their thing there game day, ended up being there. You know, that is.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, they've been together before.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Has Matt Rubin asked about the Penn State job today?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he talks about how much he respects he's from there and how much he loves it. Loves Nebraska, but. He loves Nebraska. Yeah. Loves.

[Darius Butler]

Of course.

[AJ Hawk]

Of course he does. He's going to love both.

[Pat McAfee]

His name immediately mentioned, though, Matt Rule up there, especially with the success that he's had. And if he was able to get the resources, not that Nebraska doesn't have him, but if he was able to go back home and tell them the story of Penn State, like he could. Because literally growing up there.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

They think that'd be quite a weapon in recruiting. What year is RA he's got another.

[Connor]

Year of eligibility, so he could go with.

[Darius Butler]

Okay, just ask.

[Pat McAfee]

And Dana Holgerson, he's offense coordinator. Not that we want to just strip Nebraska. Okay.

[Darius Butler]

No, no, no.

[Connor]

Sounds like it's gonna happen.

[Con Man]

Right?

[Pat McAfee]

But this is potential outcome and we don't like this. Okay. We don't like that we're saying this, but Dana Holkerson, offense coordinator for Nebraska, Nebraska, has said he's okay not being a head coach. Like, he enjoys not being a head coach. And Penn State can pay coaches, you know, they can really pay coach. They have. They've shown it before. Hey, you don't want to be a head coach. You just want to be a coordinator. Sweet. How about we pay you like mid level head coach money to be offense coordinator instead. It's like that's the weapon that you have whenever you have the conglomerate behind you. Which is why they're expecting to win, AJ that's exactly why they're expecting to win.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, they are. But like, when do you hire a CO if you're Hiring another college coach. It's going to be after they make a playoff run. Is that how we're going to wait that long for Penn State?

[Pat McAfee]

It's going to get a little messy. We checked it last week.

[Tony]

It's not bad.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they gotta run.

[Connor]

I know, but I'm saying does rule maybe. Nah, I won't say.

[AJ Hawk]

Games. Come on.

[Connor]

I won't say.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, definitely. He's definitely on the list. I soon for the Penn State people saying, yeah, hey, for sure. We have no. This is me on record saying I have no information. Okay. I was very lucky to catch up with Dr. Pat Craft, the athletic director. I know him. Okay. Neck roll wearer from Indiana. Got a chance to chat with him whenever we were up there in Happy Valley. Every year we've gone up there. Like, I have massive respect for him in this particular world. No information. Cannot have any information. Because I got this thing in front of me, let alone the thing on Saturday. That one on Saturday.

[Connor]

Can you imagine?

[Pat McAfee]

Cannot. Yeah. Cannot have any info. Cannot give this brain any info. Because at some point it's just gonna dance out somehow. Well, actually, they're talking to.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Matt rules going to Penn State. Well, really, what's Nebraska think about? And Reese gives me a full. Yeah, Nebraska obviously has said blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's like, well, yeah, of course we don't know that. That's not a piece of information. We all know. Okay, got it. Yeah. So I'm out of here. Loop on that whole thing. But you're right. When will they hire. And Terry Smith could go on a run right now. He's a great ball because Western Pennsylvania goat. So we will obviously pay attention closely to that. It's heating up. It's getting crazy. You got NFL coaches getting fired, you got Penn State coach getting fired. And you got some sweet, tropical, spicy Devil's Reserve, con man.

[Con Man]

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[Darius Butler]

Don't.

[Con Man]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Adam Schefter]

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[Con Man]

It's good, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Is it because of the sweetness, the tropicalness or the spiciness?

[Connor]

It's the spiciness for me, certainly. I mean I don't hate the sweet or tropical nature of it, but. But it's the spiciness that really takes.

[Tony]

It's great for spicy marks.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh really? Little spicy Mac?

[Tony]

Yeah, it's really nice for those.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that.

[Tony]

Frozen or I I, I just went on the rocks.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm a frozen guy just cuz margs make me feel like celebratory. So I like salt in there or sugar brother.

[Tony]

Sure.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

On the spicy one, definitely salt. Yeah. Yeah. Strawberry though. Let's go ahead and get a little sweetness on that. I'll tell you who's been showing. Nope, not going to do it right now. That'd be very rude, me to do that.

[Darius Butler]

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[Darius Butler]

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[Darius Butler]

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[Darius Butler]

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[Dan Orlovsky]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Adam Schefter]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Heather Gynich]

Football.

[Pat McAfee]

It's magical. That man's a college football national champion. Super bowl champion. A Rider cup winner, AJ Hawk. The talks to tables here at Boston. Connor and ATI Schmidt. One half of the Hammer Cowboys. AP Tony's here. Nine year NFL vet, host of NFL matchups and everything. DB Good D. Bad D. Darius J. Butler Cud Butch AJ I saw you celebrated Halloween. I thought that was very creative costume. He really explored the space, I'd say and history.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I did. It was you know, like haunted. Like haunted celebrities, SL athletes type thing that could be dead or alive. So I was jfk. My wife was. Was his wife. Obviously Jackie O worked out well.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was a haunted house obviously. And JFK came back from the grave after D was his costume. I. I appreciate you really trying to own it and being a method actor too. From the photos I saw, you went all in. We liked way you guys guys treat Halloween. I also like the way you're seeing the board. A.J. now we have two games tonight. Okay, we have two games tonight. I'm five and eight. You're seven and six. This is multiple weeks in a row where you've had to lead coming in this Monday Night Football. Now there's two games so I can technically catch up to you. And will I do that? We shall see. D Butch, your thoughts on this? 7:15 er Bill is at Falcons. Bill is favored by 3 1/2. Dan Orlovsky on a call. Dan Orlovsky said says I actually don't like this matchup for the Buffalo Bills. He said he likes this for the Atlanta Falcons. Do you see it the same way as Dano? What are your thoughts on this game and the three and a half point spread?

[Darius Butler]

That surprised me hearing that from Dano knowing how highly he he thinks of this team. He just said Joe Brady should probably be the next head coach for the Tennessee Titans. So it definitely surprised me. I do love the young talent on the Falcons side of it, but I'm going to, I'm going to take the Bills. I think after that loss on prime time against the Patriots, they're going to come back with fire in their eyes. So I take the Bills covering three and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

You will reserve the right to be able to change your pick right after tone gives us some information. What are the percentages on who and is there any different lines we can get?

[Tony]

Yeah, 73% are on the Bills tonight, which is not a shocker. Three and a half is the lowest you can get if you want the Buffalo Beals. Four and a half half is the highest you can get if you want the Atlanta.

[Pat McAfee]

It's almost like I figured that was the case that 70 some percent there on the Buffalo Bills. Does that change anything for you?

[Darius Butler]

Nope, I'm sticking with it.

[Pat McAfee]

The public has stunk. We see the stats. We see it.

[Darius Butler]

Yep. Stick with it.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ Darius Go ahead.

[AJ Hawk]

No, so D D But I'm. I appreciate D. But sticking with it, even though we, I guess the public should not change how we think the game is going to go. But I think you hit it on the head. These Buffalo Bills coming off a loss, as Mike McCarthy said, they got Case the red ass, I think, and they're going to come out there fighting. They're going to be ready to roll. Josh Allen's not going to let them lose again. So I'm taking Buffalo.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So I'm taking Atlanta. Just strictly because I have to. To catch up with you in the against the spread weekend. Tone. Yeah. Can you tell those stats again? I get it at what I get plus four.

[Connor]

Yes.

[Tony]

Four and a half, actually.

[Pat McAfee]

I get plus four and a half and then 73% of the money is on the team that I'm not on. So I'm with 27% in the record throughout the year with percentage over 60% on something. What is the record?

[Tony]

15 and 35.

[Pat McAfee]

Jokes on you.

[Con Man]

And you, AJ bills are coming off a loss.

[AJ Hawk]

Maybe.

[Con Man]

Are the. Did the Falcon. Who'd they play last week? Did they lose last week or did they stay at home, get really healthy and watch the Bills tape for two straight weeks? Because they're on the bot.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about that. Oh, yeah, that's what they were doing. Studying. Yeah. They were in cold tub and sauna. Which are you supposed to do before workout or after workout?

[AJ Hawk]

AJ Sauna. I don't know. What is it?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. There's new science, like people talking cold top. Don't do it after work.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. You're not going to gain like the muscle that you need. I guess if you, if you lift really heavy and then get in the cold tub. I've read that.

[Darius Butler]

Is that real?

[Pat McAfee]

That's going to take away because the blood is bringing. You know what you're looking for? The recovery of the muscle. So you're basically getting in an ice tub saying, nope, actually everything you just did, not worth it. Don't do it. Sends blood away from the inflammation. You're looking to be getting inflamed. You're looking to tear a little bit and repair a little bit. You're looking to grow a little bit. And the cold tub says, I got you. I'll make you feel better. They're saying, don't do it after lifting. But what about in the morning? Morning. Am I supposed to do it in contrast?

[Darius Butler]

I'm a fan of contrast.

[AJ Hawk]

Do it in the morning. Do it before your Lift. What about that?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, because it's just wake up. Is it just a wake up when I know I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be the man who wakes up in some water? Is that what's gonna happen? Is that what that is?

[Darius Butler]

You know, what you do, what makes you feel better?

[Pat McAfee]

So that's what I've been doing.

[AJ Hawk]

It's all about, what's Wahlberg do? What's Wahlberg do?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, he's.

[AJ Hawk]

I know it starts at 3:15. Like, is he going cold? He's not. He's not doing cold tub after, is he? I know he does cold tub all.

[Darius Butler]

The time at the turn.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's his golf cart, actually. Yeah, it's a cold tub.

[Con Man]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

The. The. The pedal is actually in the tub so he's able to drive it. And it's got the little almost balloon naughty top. So he can slip in and it is a cold tub and then he can bounce out and then he's back to golfing. Those people that can take care of 10 things at once are really important. Impressive. When Mark Wahlberg released that schedule, I think everybody was mind blown. But I don't think I've heard him back off it. Really, Right. No, no, I think he's just.

[Darius Butler]

I think it's gotten more. I think he's at it. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's like, yeah. What are you. Yeah, you basic humans can't do what I can do. I can play nine holes in 47 minutes. Okay. Now, there might be some rule changes, but we're still out there golfing. We're still doing our thing. I'm morning workout, sauna, and then I'm dunking my head in a cold tub. I just dunk.

[Darius Butler]

Okay, good.

[Pat McAfee]

Just head action. Hall, it's. Is that what he. Oh, no.

[Darius Butler]

Is that his name?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that was him. But he's doing that.

[Connor]

Yeah. Crack.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. In. That's not a bad play. I might start doing it.

[Darius Butler]

That's fresh wood.

[Pat McAfee]

I might get the bottle. I might get the bowl and use the cold tub.

[Tony]

Now you're talking.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, and then.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Ashton Hall. I'm not racing anybody, though.

[Connor]

Damn.

[Pat McAfee]

Put my ass on. Slow mo. Oh, I'm cool, though. I think I could get you a pretty good little knee drive. Arm swing.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, you can race DJ Khaled.

[Tony]

It's quick.

[Pat McAfee]

DJ Cow's got those little legs moving sometimes.

[AJ Hawk]

You know, his first 10 is legit. I know that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He's not scared to move too, which I respect, you know, because if I get to that stage of life, I think I'm gonna be so worried about my joints just because of what I know. You probably won't even see me attempting some of the stuff that he's doing. So I got. Got massive respect for what his body's able to accomplish. We saw a Power Ranger, a Colts Power Ranger, this weekend at the Indianapolis Colts game. This guy was awesome. I mean, he was. There's no way his joints are happy at all about what he's doing, but he is round ball of passion for that Indianapolis Colts team halftime show. Actually, the halftime show was. It was like an open a. A suitcase thing. Briefcase. And it just said, you want a thousand bucks. Bucks in a car. Thousand bucks in a car.

[Tony]

Oh, nice.

[Pat McAfee]

Thousand bucks in a car. And then a green card and not an actual green card. That would be a big deal. Green Caesars card. Okay. And then like a white Caesar's card and then a digital chuckle up.

[Tony]

It was a good halftime show.

[Darius Butler]

No, that would. A fat Power Ranger. Is that what you said?

[Connor]

Whoa, whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

The fat Power Rangers Ranger.

[Con Man]

Oh.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, okay.

[Pat McAfee]

To be clear, it's cool. They tossed fat Power Ranger into halftime show. I think much more captivating, probably. I would say blue hit the.

[Darius Butler]

This is cool.

[Pat McAfee]

This guy needs to be around more. I'm assuming it's a guy. I apologize. Power Ranger, I guess.

[AJ Hawk]

Is that his wife? You think it's his wife? With him looking at him so lovingly.

[Pat McAfee]

Down there, right to his left.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. The bond.

[Con Man]

Yeah. He was riding Han Solo. He was there about an hour and 10 minutes before the game, and there was no. He wasn't saying next to people he knew.

[Pat McAfee]

You found him on social media where the pronouns I'm him, I believe. Yeah. Yeah.

[Con Man]

I'm not sure if it was I'm him or if. If he went by himy.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah. It could have been all time. Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

He's not fat either. He looks more probably.

[Con Man]

What. What I kind of cropped out is that his penis is tucked into his boots. I love that.

[Pat McAfee]

We did see that.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Because we thought maybe it was very vascular leg, but you never know, I guess. But if he was out at halftime show, I think we're talking a little bit more magic, a little bit more spectacle. You know, it was some good shows yesterday. There was. We blew off the. After a touchdown. Wind blows that on field.

[Tony]

Oh, no.

[Pat McAfee]

On field. So now there's a full panic to grab the sparklers and off the field thing while the kickoffs lined up out there. It was good.

[Darius Butler]

Did they do the. The red dawn thing again?

[Pat McAfee]

The umbrellas what do you mean?

[Darius Butler]

The parachutes. I'm sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That was all blue to one place.

[Connor]

Yep.

[Darius Butler]

Come on.

[Con Man]

The draft.

[Pat McAfee]

Red. People really hated those shadows.

[Darius Butler]

It's so bad on.

[Connor]

Yeah. It didn't look good on tv.

[Tony]

Product is horrendous.

[Con Man]

Had no idea.

[Pat McAfee]

I think it doesn't feel. I'm not getting into it.

[Con Man]

It looks awesome when you're in there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it looks cool when you. You're looking the. The exact view that we had.

[Con Man]

Yeah. If you're not sitting where we are, it sucks.

[Darius Butler]

Field level.

[Pat McAfee]

Field level. Window.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Top. Beautiful. Sunny. There's two cranes in downtown Indianapolis. Good things are happening. You see those through the window. That's about it. Although some clouds. So, like, for us, it was perfect. You know, everybody else said they didn't like it. Sure.

[Darius Butler]

So looks bad on tv.

[Connor]

It does.

[Darius Butler]

For sure.

[Pat McAfee]

It doesn't feel as big, I don't think.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Con Man]

Go to the game.

[Pat McAfee]

Right. Ain't that right, aj? It doesn't feel as big. I think it feels morningy, like.

[AJ Hawk]

Which is like, what, like 9am JV games in high school. That's what. And I'm not saying it feels like that, but it's just weird that the angle of the sun at that time coming through how it does on the field.

[Darius Butler]

It does look weird.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, and also, one side's closed, and then one side is wide open. So you literally have a natural cut off of a shadow. And then the shadows are kind of weirdly parsed around. There's, like, little different parcels of shadows. And that's because it's a window and all these other things that are going on. It's a beautiful stadium. Like, when you're there, it is absolutely glorious. But if it's a perfect day in Indianapolis in October and that sun's shining, it might be a little optically confusing for the other team. And maybe that's why we won't maybe.

[Darius Butler]

Into a flyover again.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that?

[Darius Butler]

Did we get a flyover?

[Pat McAfee]

No flyover.

[Darius Butler]

Okay. Have we seen the.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know why there wasn't a flyover.

[Darius Butler]

The Atlanta State Stadium. Have we seen a video that. I don't think I've ever seen that one open, though.

[Pat McAfee]

I saw it just yesterday. I think I'm talking about opening it, and it just looks like a. It.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Balloon knot. It just looks like a.

[AJ Hawk]

You know, because it's like a cyborg type looking situation. Have they played with it open before? Obviously they have, but I don't remember.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. I've seen a video of it opening up. I think this was a part of it, but I, I don't, I don't know why they haven't used it open. Yeah, here it is. Oh, it looks sick. Yeah, but can you do the opening up? There it is. So it's like a sick.

[AJ Hawk]

So much money just in that part of that stadium.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. The science behind it all.

[Darius Butler]

Jeez.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a, it's a really cool thing. I, I wonder why they don't open it more often. I wonder if the. I don't know. I, I honestly don't know why they don't open it. I was going to immediately make like 10 excuses while like, well, maybe flooding and they don't have water. It's like, well, they should. They spend like 5 billion on this thing. Maybe the temperature isn't good. It's like, well it should. They spent like 6 billion, 5 billion on this thing. It's like that thing is a marvel. Yeah, it is an engineering marvel. It is beautiful. Dude. I, I, I think that's the. Yeah, I'll say it. That's the nicest stadium. I think we've been in la. Interesting. It rained inside.

[Connor]

Yeah. So fine, guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Jerry World's still great.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Jerry World is awesome. Allegiance. Cool.

[Connor]

Yeah, I mean that's that, that was pretty nice. I, I'd like to be there for a football game as opposed to being there for mania.

[Pat McAfee]

But I'm pumped to see what the Buffalo Beal Stadium is. All these new stadiums that are coming in, it's like, it's crazy. The difference between what old stadiums were and what news.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh my God.

[Pat McAfee]

There's like malls in these places. Places.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, the old, the old school places are awesome. Like they're awesome for football, but they don't have the infrastructure underneath the stadium that like these new stadiums, they have a whole city underneath the stadium pretty much. And places you can go and all this stuff. Well, some of these old stadiums have nothing like there's not even hallways to go through to get to anything. So it is kind of, it's very, very different depending on when your stadium was built.

[Pat McAfee]

That's quite an advancement that we don't really talk about.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Of technology is the stadiums. Because it is something to do when you go to the stage stadiums as opposed to just you're going there to get in your seat from tailgating. It's like they want you walking around that stadium. They want you in that like it's a casino. They want you to experience it. There's little like 3D portions of the things you can go into. Oh, here's a team shop. Oh, here's a full shop. Here's a local shop. Here's a restaurant. Here's another restaurant. Here's. It's like everything is just set up like a mall. It's literally set up like malls.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. And they use it for so many other things. You talked about mania. Like, all the other. That you can do, like the huge concerts and so all. Like, we've been in the guts of some of these stadiums, so.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think it's the nicest one. Yeah, I think it is. Just in my head, I've tried to think of very loud, too. That Ohio State game on New Year's Eve, Georgia. That was the loudest stadium I think I've ever been in. Agreed. It was loud. There was a. There was a. A hum to your ears after. Like a ringing after you left.

[Connor]

That national championship was super loud.

[Pat McAfee]

How lucky have we been to be able to be in these places? Where are you judging us from? Standing on the right. On the right. On the field. Like, the Rose bowl obviously doesn't compare to. We're not comparing Rose bowl to Mercedes Benz Stadium. It's impossible to judge those two. What we're saying is, amongst the new stadiums, we think the Mercedes won seemingly from our experiences. The best in and out. Too easy.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

I'll vote Elite Allegiant.

[Pat McAfee]

You've had allegiance over Mercedes.

[Darius Butler]

Okay, it's close, but I'll go just for.

[Pat McAfee]

I guess they got what. They got good setups in their suite levels.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, the.

[Darius Butler]

On the on field.

[Pat McAfee]

Jerry World, man.

[Darius Butler]

Just seeing, like, when you see Allegiant in Vegas and you just, like, it looks like it's from 2040.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're right.

[Darius Butler]

Just.

[Pat McAfee]

It is a spaceship.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Jerry World's sick. And I'm just walking through their suite section that goes right to the field.

[Con Man]

That restaurant. Restaurant.

[Darius Butler]

We saw, like, Jerry's. Jerry and his family, like, pulling up, like, the whole.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Jerry World's like 15, 16 years old, too, isn't it?

[Pat McAfee]

They take care of that. They take care of their stuff down there. Surrounding areas. Cool there, too. Yep. All right, so Buffalo Bills. Cleveland also, right? Cleveland is. They just got approved for one. Allegedly.

[Con Man]

Now they're fighting back.

[Pat McAfee]

Now, the airport had to clear it because that's always the issue. Issue with, like, indoor practice facilities. Like, is there a local airport? You can't build the indoor practice facility this high. Now they're thinking about building a stadium near an airport. I mean, that's going to be a whole thing. This is an entire debate. Cleveland people necessarily aren't necessarily thrilled about the changing of stadium to begin with. So I guess there's a little push and shove coming. Whatever the case, can't wait to see Buffalo, can't wait to see Chicago, can't wait to see Cleveland.

[Connor]

Tennessee.

[Pat McAfee]

Tennessee is going to be awesome. I mean, it is. These new stadiums are awesome. Commanders getting a new stadium are incredible. And for tonight, I'm. I'm on Atlanta, you guys are on the Bills.

[AJ Hawk]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

I would like to tell you guys, bad news, boys. Jeezy. Halftime. Oh.

[Connor]

Whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. This is a big deal. You know, this is a big deal. I think he just did a Vegas announced a Vegas show for TM101. I'm not 100% sure. He just got done with a basically a black tie cocktail event traveling of, you know, his bangers from back in the day. Whenever 2005 is when I graduated high school. So that was the exact year when Jeezy was about to go absolutely crazy. I mean, the trapstr got us through so many workouts. Jay Z got me to the NFL, I would say. I would say Jeezy got me to the NFL and through life, I think for our exact generation. So I don't know how many people in our generation are going to be there at halftime, but the entire city of Atlanta, I assume is going to go crazy. That's going to be a tough place to play in the second half for Josh Allen, I think.

[Darius Butler]

Can I change real quick?

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, you can.

[Darius Butler]

I'm going to Falcons.

[Con Man]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

He reserved the right. We said it earlier. Reserve the right to change the Falcons. Okay. Plus three and a half. A.J. you're the only one riding with the Bills. Let's go to the second game of the evening. The Chicago Bears take on the Washington commanders. Caleb Williams, Jaden Daniels. Special, special stuff happening in Washington since Jaden got there. And have Chicago and Caleb figured out what their special sauce is going to be going forward? He's looked much better than he has in the past couple weeks. Jaden and Washington commanders feel like a much more veteran team as opposed to a team just trying to figure it out. They're favored by five and a half at home. D Butch, who do you like? How do you like it?

[Darius Butler]

That is. That's a lot of points. Five and a half. Chicago's coming off a bye week as well, right? Two game win streak. Back to what Connor said is W performing at halftime. I need to know this.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a good question.

[Con Man]

I think oh Goody is right.

[Connor]

Whoever.

[Tony]

Oh wait, Wale did that song or Wall.

[Con Man]

He produced it. Oh Goody.

[Pat McAfee]

Him. I don't think Wally had any producing creds on that one.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Connor]

Just wrote it.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't that would be a producer credit. I think. I, I don't. I don't think he's part of the publishing or the master pertinent information. I don't think he's part of any of that.

[Darius Butler]

What would that hand?

[Pat McAfee]

Who are we? The Commanders. That was a little bit of a heater there for a bit. They needed it at that time. They needed it and showed up for sure. Do you like the Commanders minus five.

[Darius Butler]

And a half battle of the former one and two picks. I'm going to go with Caleb Williams covering at the Washington Commanders. I think command Commanders win but I.

[Pat McAfee]

Got the bears cover Chicago plus five and a half. Anything else we need to know about this line tone?

[Tony]

51% is on the Bears so it doesn't qualify for any of the, you know, most bet on games or anything like that. This is also the game that sent the Bears into a downward spiral last year and sent the Commanders to the playoffs on a hill.

[Pat McAfee]

Mary list of injuries for the Commanders Here you got no Brown groin knee, he's hot. That's not good. Terry McLaurin quad, he's hot. Sam Cosby knee, he's doubtful. Chris Rodriguez Jr. And Debo questionable. John Bates, Jaden Daniels full participants. Okay. So that's what information we have for the commanders. AJ Are you going to ride with the commies or are you going with Derek is Butler and the Chicago Bears plus five and a half.

[AJ Hawk]

I do not love seeing some of those great players on the injury list not playing tonight for the Commanders but does not sway me. I will take Jaden Daniels in the Commanders minus five and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. I'm actually okay. I feel good about taking the Bears plus five and a half and taking the Falcons plus three and a half.

[Darius Butler]

I'm sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

Plus four and a half. Okay. I was going to be forced into some picks tonight tonight and I'm okay with both of them because I think we got two very good games tonight.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And this is week six of the NFL season wrapping up. Good luck to everybody on the call. We can't wait to spend the evening with you. Let's go to some overreactions from the weekend that was put out a bird call saying hey good morning. It's another glorious overreaction Monday. Cannot wait to hear what you have to say we can't wait to showcase some of your thoughts. We can't wait to hear how fans around football feel about their teams. If you could send in all you got uses the hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but I believe it became a top trend. There were some things that are very serious and maybe very positive trending. I don't want to say anything, but it feels like, is there peace in the Middle east that seemed to be trending right there with us. Peace in the Middle East. That feels good. Been hearing about that for a long time. Peace in the Middle East. Peace in the Middle east. That was trending. The reason why I found out is because, hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but past Middle East, I'm like, what's on going Middle east gender for? Let's go ahead and find out. Holy hell. Okay. Seems like a good news. It's also good news whenever we get a chance to hear how football fans are feeling around the globe. Let's go to the first one. AJ Ty picked his favorites. This one's from Boston. Connor. This guy, he's a rascal. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but we're back. Get used to seeing these two everywhere. A new dynasty is upon us. Bills need to win tonight. I worry Buffalo won't be able to hit handle New England being first in division after week six. Okay, so you're giving a warning to the Bills. Not just a warning to the entire league, but obviously the Bills. You need to wake up. There's some magic brewing yet again up there in New England.

[Con Man]

Yeah, not even a warning, just more so. Like, I am generally worried because the Bills are up there with one of the most fickle and soft fan bases when it comes to people on the Internet. And so if this happens, then they'll do a whole song and dance about how the Patriots aren't actually good. And the Bills, you know, it was a fluke that they lost in Buffalo, but that's just kind of part of the game that you deal with when it comes to the Bills. It's just undeniable at this point. I'm very excited about it. Vrabel is the guy, especially with Brian Callahan getting fired. Tennessee, you fucking fools. You really fucked that one up if you just hung on to Vrabel, but you didn't. And thank God for drawing Mayo and Robert Kraft drafting Drake May because the partnership together will equal a Super Bowl. And it's very exciting. And all of a sudden, the Pats you know, we got a variable revenge game against the Titans, then we have the Browns. We're kind of looking at a six and two New England Patriots if they can take care of business like they did Sunday.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, we're happy for all you. As we watch you go through it for a couple years, it was like a divorce was happening in real time. You had to pick between dad or dad and Belichick and Tom Brady. Brady, we know how that and not well. And we will see how it is 10 years from now, depending upon how everything works out. Certainly wild and loud, but they're all the way back. Let's go to the next overreaction. This is from Billy tubes at Bailey McComas. Boys. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Colts are the best team in the NFL. Reserve the location for Indiana Jones statue right next to the sheriff. Clear the way for Tyler Warren, Josh D. And JT's Ring of Honor spots. Tune up the floats and pave the streets. Parade's coming, says Bailey McComas. And I'll tell you what, Bill, I didn't even think about us having to pave these roads so we could have a good parade. Let's get on that.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. We need to make sure that these floats can get through town without moats hitting them every other step. But what I will say is Indianapolis does feel good. And if you look at the past, the legends that brought football to become the most important thing in this city after, you know, a long time of racing and basketball being Indianapolis's kind of gem, and baby Peyton Manning was drafted here. And all of a sudden the football town became football lot. And these football people are seeing a lot of things that are reminiscent with great football here for the Colts. Gotta have a super smart quarterback. We got him. Gotta have a dog as a wide receiver. We got him. You gotta have defense that can win in all different types of ways and hopefully stay healthy during warm ups going forward. We got him, A.J. it's a beautiful time to be in Indiana. Obviously you got the Hoosier football team doing what they're doing. Number three team in the country. You got the Indianapolis Colts. Number one team in the league. Okay. By all accounts, can say that Tyler Warren might be the best football player in the world. And then it just came out out Purdue is the number one team in the country for men's college basketball. So the state of Indiana is dominating sports. Welcome to the party. We're great to be here, but A.J. you've been saying this for a While you believe in this Colts team, I do.

[AJ Hawk]

I believe in Danny Jones. I believe in their offensive line as well. I definitely do. And also how about that defense you bring in Jermaine Pratt, I believe he had double digit tackles already yesterday. He just joined the team. What, how long ago? So that I feel like they're only getting better. They're starting to hit their stride.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't even see that. I should have paid attention. I'm sure I heard his name a couple times. Didn't even react. I mean this Colts team, we couldn't get a stop there for a while. Hey, look, that's going to happen.

[Connor]

Going to have those hearts.

[Tony]

Are a tough team.

[Darius Butler]

We're patching them up on the back end, all the guys that we thought would play big roles in the secondary. Kenny Moore's been out. Hopefully he's back soon. Mooney Ward got knocked out pregame, lost another corner. So Blackman, I'm sorry, stepping up, getting another pick.

[AJ Hawk]

We.

[Darius Butler]

It's been patchwork back there on the secondary, but Lou still finding a way to get wins. So shout out to that defense. And you guys mentioned it from the top down. Been the best scene it takes. Big three starts there with the ownership level. Chris Ballard, he's been saying he like his guys made some great signings in the offseason. Quarterback, J.T. playing great online. I mean we got best team in the league.

[Pat McAfee]

Best team in the league. And Rico got the punt a couple times, hit some bombs. Michael Badgley, Kennedy, kicker back in town. He was here a couple years ago making kicks. It's a special time. We enjoy it. And I think they'll take all these different calluses that they're getting at this stage. You know, they're still a young team together. They can only grow from here. We all hope. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Garrett Williams. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Detroit has lost all her toughness and grit by being whiny babies about getting blown out by the Chiefs. Last week The Chiefs had 13 penalties and the refs have turned on the team Chiefs. Now we have zero. And it's rigged for the Chiefs again. Foxy, you were already laying down the seed to make this an excuse. And then all of a sudden, lo and behold, all anybody's saying is Patrick Mahomes is smooching with the refs and they're saying it's not AI. It is AI. He's not smooching with any refs. You guys are just complaining because you're losing. That's what the other side saying. Listen, a lot of people were saying, foxy, what you said on Friday was completely right. The ref screwed us. It wasn't a great officiated game. I'm not going to say that though. I just think the Chiefs are back. They looked great. Mahomes is great. And we're a little banged up in the secondary. We got to get healthy. We'll be a. Okay. I'm not worried about anything. And it was nice actually, because we lost. I kind of enjoyed smacking juju in the m. Okay, aj, let's talk about that. Obviously the NFL is not going to be thrilled about this. Branch smacks him right in the mouth after blowing past Patrick Mahomes. Juju clearly thinks they're about to dap up, even though they had a pretty spirited game, I think is how people would describe it. He ends up literally open hand smacking him in the jaw and then ragdolling him with his helmet onto the ground, which a melee is, you know, ensues and there's camera people around. I mean, full chaos at the end of this one Last night between two of the NFL's greatest games, our greatest teams. What do you think about Branches and the entire situation? That is.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I mean, obviously Branch had some frustration that kind of boiled over in this moment. This is, this is a wild scene. It's Branch against everybody for a little while and he held his own, did very, very well. I. I would assume listening to Shefty too. Like, are they going to suspend him again? Is he going to miss next game?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it sounds like it. It sounds like it. Side note, Brian Branch is on the fine list every single week since he got drafted. He probably has the most, most finds in the NFL. That's just a complete guess. But he's on that list every week, so I assume there'll be some punishment here, which isn't good cuz already out our two corners. Brian Branch is no stranger to looking at his check and just seeing minus signs next to it. Oh yeah, where's this going? Where'd Jerry's money go? Where'd Gannon's money go? Where's it go?

[Darius Butler]

I'm sure great causes somewhere good.

[Pat McAfee]

Definitely raises money, right?

[Darius Butler]

Of course.

[Dan Orlovsky]

For sure.

[Con Man]

Probably to peace in the Middle East.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that how it works? I know people have been trying to pitch for that for a long time.

[Tony]

Make you an info.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that hey, shout out. Is that one of the causes?

[Con Man]

I think, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The pink cleats are Sick to see. Whenever you see one, it's like, oh, you were around or old enough for whenever. This was an era and that would really took over. Now we're raising money, obviously, for everything, which we love being a part of. Good things, not bad things in society. That pink run, though, had a real one. It sticks out.

[Con Man]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, the pink.

[Con Man]

Yeah, on it.

[Darius Butler]

On that note, Josh Hines Allen. He had a moment with his son where his son could be, I guess, like a honorary captain for the Jags before the game. I believe he was 8 years old, had a battle with cancer. Overcame it in full remission now. So that was an awesome moment.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell, yeah. Just think about how tough you gotta be at that age to overcome that. And, you know, you draw so much inspiration from these kids. We get a chance, an opportunity to meet the people that create these stories and are going through very hard times for the professions that we had, both football and then now doing this, we get, you know, make a wish opportunities, phone calls, hey, will you come meet these people? And it's like the amount of mental toughness that it takes from very young individuals. Eight years old.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Already beat. It's like, hurts, sucks. All your friends are doing cool things and you just got to sit in here and literally sit in the pocket in battle. And my message is always like, hey, what you've been through is going to. You're going to be able to use for the rest of your life. Like, you are going to have a. This sucks. This is absolutely unfair that you've had to go through this. I don't think it's cool at all. I don't think you've, like, this is obviously sucks, but for the rest of your life, you're going to have something that you're going to be able to lean on. Like, hey, I'm tougher than everybody else. And that's a cool thing to see happen. I thought Jags had to win.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Honestly, in that moment. Seahawks, go football team. Go full seah. Go A football team. But AJ I genuinely feel that way. Like, so badass to have to go through that.

[AJ Hawk]

So true. I see it all the time with different kids. Like, my kids. Like, I got second, fourth grade kids where they're trying to do things for kid. Like, there's kids that have had cancer and gone through all kind of situations in their classrooms that do stuff to help them. I'm like, man, can you imagine, like, being that young? Not only, like, how your parents deal with it, but kids are resilient, man. Like, kids can handle they can fight through. And you're right, eventually it will be better for everything the rest of your life, hopefully. You think, if I can do this, like, I can do anything. But, man, in the moment, that's just brutal for everybody involved.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But you get those beautiful moments that inspire everybody. Just like that coin toss. It was hard not to get, like, emotional with that. Especially now with child, you know. Let's go to the next overreaction. This is from bones@Bones POG hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but redo all of your top fives, throw away all your lists, because this man is. Is one of one death taxes in jsn open over the middle. Seven fucking sacks by the defense on a pretty boy in a monster game by Sam Darnold. Look out, NFC west, your owner has returned. I saw a lot of football night in America, a lot of the west winning. West, West, West. How good the west is? How good the west is? Seattle Seahawks, very good. Not a lot of conversation because they're in Seattle, A.J. and that's not fair. I'm not saying that's fair fair. We're just saying that's a reality. They've had monster wins on the road thus far. And Sam Darnold, this guy's unbelievable. A lot of people wondering how the hell did Minnesota let him out of there?

[AJ Hawk]

How did Sam don't like, look at these pockets that Sam Darnold throws from. You give Sam Darnold any amount of time to throw and the guy is going to find people open. Like, I'm. I'm very, very impressed by what they're doing, how their defense is playing as well. But we say it's like the west coast bias that we, you know, we don't hear as much. They don't talk, talk. What about the West Coast? Do they talk about them? Like, are they. Are they. They speak about it more than we do?

[Pat McAfee]

That's a good question. And what shows, I guess, would we look to over there to chitch, I guess NFL Networks over there, right?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

NFL Network's hopefully giving them a lot of love because they're special. And we talk about Cooper Cup. You said not just. We can't just look at the stats. And there was an incredible touchdown throw from Sam Darnold to Cooper Cup. I mean, this is just I bucket Cooper cup football there as well. Saw that with Stafford a little lot. He's only going to get picked up, but he was a great signing for leadership and also loves the time from there.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, absolutely. Everything he does, not only on the field, but what he does off the field, but not only in the past game, the run game, like, him getting in there. He did a lot of dirty work in that Rams offense as well, but he'll get in there and block his ass off. Jsn I think he's definitely in that top five conversation along with the other NF NFC west superstar Puka Nakua, who's banged up right now, but it seems like they're quarterbacks, too. I love how Sam Darnold, Matt Stafford, like, they're like, look, I'm throwing to the dog. Every time he's throwing the ball deep downfield, I feel like it's going to be 11 on the other side. And same with stafford, whether it's 17 with Adams or Puka, I just love what they're doing.

[Pat McAfee]

And west is playing good ball all of a sudden. Do we got to start? Maybe we have a little west coast seg.

[Connor]

Well, I think it's even extra right now too, because everyone's saying, like, you know, you got the Mariners, maybe going to win the World Series this year. We got the Seahawks, who are unbelievable. And nobody talks about either one of them because we're in Seattle.

[Pat McAfee]

We're kind of part of the problem, I guess, Connor, aren't we?

[Con Man]

I. I just think it's just because the 49ers are national brand and the Rams have won a Super bowl in the last five years. But when you do think about the team now, the Rams, you know, Puka, you just mentioned them. Niners, Bosa and Warner out for the season now it's officially like, oh, their defense is fucked because Fred Warner is the best, best middle linebacker in the entire league. And now he's done for the season. So, like, what, Bosa, you know, they lost with him. Fred Warner can make up for now without Fred Warner, it's like, that blows the Purdy stuff, the KD stuff, of course. But like, when you just talk about heart and souls of teams, Fred Warner being hurt is terrible.

[Pat McAfee]

Quad box. Okay, top corner. See Fred Warner down. See everybody around, see Cart come out and just immediately get go. This Niners team's cursed. This Niners team is absolutely cursed. Fred, we love T's and peas. Godspeed absolutely sucks if that's happening. But this Niners team, it's like, what do they got to do? Honestly? What. What do they. Is there some voodoo they like, can they do something? Is there. Is there some sort of what. What do they do up there in Detroit? They put whiskey in A bathtub? Yeah, that was the Bobby Lane curse. So they put whiskey in the bathtub and then it actually worked and now we're winning playoff games.

[Tony]

Oh, yeah. Maybe that's a West.

[AJ Hawk]

Who takes it back?

[Pat McAfee]

They need to find theirs.

[Darius Butler]

What curse do they have?

[Connor]

They just need to smoke a bunch of weed.

[Pat McAfee]

I think that's already a comp. No, not doing that. No, they're not already doing.

[Connor]

They got to get in the stadium and find a way. Maybe just like put like a big tarp over the top and just hot box the stadium. Get everybody super high. Maybe none of these guys will ever get hurt again. Cuz they're loose.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that. Maybe they. I. Maybe they turn it into an ayahuasca tent stadium.

[Connor]

That's not a bad idea.

[Pat McAfee]

They go into a tent. I didn't know what they do. Aj.

[AJ Hawk]

I think. I think the sweat launch thing, they go in like sober and you go and just sweat until you die, and then you get out right before death.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's the TP they wanted.

[Tony]

It's like the blue tunnel settling.

[Pat McAfee]

They're not doing any aasca on there. They're not doing any aya. I don't.

[AJ Hawk]

I assume. I assume there's. I assume there's, you know, both thoughts. Some people do. Some people go in there fully, I guess.

[Heather Gynich]

Nothing.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. And to the layman, you don't know what we're talking about. We're talking about just a higher level of. Of medicinal plant medicine, spiritual journey, sweating. And we're obviously cultured, so we understand how this goes. There's a rainforest you fly into. Right into it, first night, they say. Sweet. You comfortable with your life? No. That's why you're here. Get into this thing. From my understanding, it's 2,000 degrees.

[Connor]

Correct.

[Pat McAfee]

And you're pumping steam in there in the rainforest. And then that's a big. The beginning of the journey of awakening. Right, aj?

[AJ Hawk]

I guess. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe they do need to do that in San Francisco. Or sage isn't sage.

[Connor]

Sage should work. Either that or it's just one of those things where it's just like, hey, it's just. Just never going to work for you guys anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Connor]

You hate to say. Yeah, I know, but this is. Every year, it's like, you know, it's like, hey, just. Just wait. You know, Purdy's gonna get hurt, or McAffrey's gonna get hurt, or Auk's gonna get hurt.

[Pat McAfee]

Hurt.

[Connor]

Or Bosa is going to get hurt, or Warner's going to get hurt or any of these guys who you're pay kittle who you're paying a bunch of money to. It's year in, year out. And it's not just one of them. It's a lot of times it's multiple guys.

[Con Man]

Yeah. And I also, you know, I don't want to go there, but I don't know if the team's curse. I think it might be Shanahan because Shanahan, if you were to look at since 283 and maybe it's happened because it came up on Rushmore, but old cool cow sh Shanahan wanted to score 50 points on the New England Patriots. So he threw the ball up 28 to 3 like a prick. So I, I don't know if it's the football gods like you thought you were better than us in the biggest game. You fucked it up.

[Pat McAfee]

We gave it to you.

[Con Man]

We gave you the game. Tom Brady threw a pick six in a Super bowl and you wanted to be oh, cool. Kyle Shanahan. And unfortunately now his team gets rad savage by injuries every year and we don't like that.

[Pat McAfee]

And how do you get rid of that curse? Can you get rid of that curse?

[Con Man]

I don't know if you can, but I do know that you definitely need to know the OT rules in the super bowl in order to reverse it. Oh, yeah, and they forgot that too. Against the Chiefs.

[Pat McAfee]

Harvard. He forgot. That was. Oh, that was awesome. All right, let's get to the next overreaction. That might be an overreaction, but it might maybe not. We don't know. This is from Jamie Chadwell. Stan Account. Jamie Chadwell, obviously football Coach at Liberty. Sadsports fan69 hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the Carolina Panthers are so back. 3 and 3 feels like 170 and I'm on top of the world. Buckle up, jets. Because the Cowboys weren't buckled up. D Bucks.

[Darius Butler]

They weren't. And Rico Dodo, this was his revenge game. Back to back 225 yards. Total yards on the ground and in the air for him. And he talked. I lost love. There's nothing I love more than when a player talks before a game and then goes into somebody's stadium and backs it up. So this back to back weeks now for him, over 225 yards, 239 total yards, which is a Carolina Panther offensive record. And if you think about the players that have been in that program, Steve Smith, D' Angelo Williams, Stu Christian McCaffrey. So for him to have that record.

[Pat McAfee]

Pretty great spin there too. I mean the spin on that touchdown celebrates right there of the ball was phenomenal. I think he's first got to be over 200 yards. There was one undrafted or yada, yada. Yeah, there's a bunch of rules, a bunch of records that Rico, that's a great spin. Can you go back a little bit more? I think they'll have a good shot.

[AJ Hawk]

It was clean.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was a clean. I mean there's some bad ones out there. Oh, here we go.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean that thing's still going. He's digging it. Digging it. Still going. Yeah. I mean that's a good spin. That turf's trying to eat. Turf's trying to try. That turf's trying to hold you back. That turf is trying to hold you back whenever you're spinning the ball. And he got that thing. Rico's got a lot of confidence and 3 and 3. I love watching this Panthers team. A lot of people talking on the Panthers, you know, of course a lot of people picking against the Panthers. Panther said, hold the phone, we got a football team. Canales biggest win is what they called that as Carolina Panthers. He looked obviously excited. Can they continue to roll? We shall see. Congrats to the Queen City City Liberty football coach. I didn't expect that there.

[Connor]

Guy's a die hard fan.

[Pat McAfee]

That's in Virginia Liberty. Right. So is that just Carolinas and Virginia just kind of all pull forth, I believe.

[Tony]

And I could be wrong. Jamie Chadwell came from Coastal maybe or something around there. I could be wrong.

[Con Man]

Virginia is an in between state though. Just like Connecticut where half will go to Washington and the other half I know are, you know, Panthers and mixed back.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so we got that. And then there's some South Carolina that goes Atlanta, Georgia and then. Or go north for the Carolina. He was a Coastal Carolina.

[Connor]

There you have it.

[Pat McAfee]

So that's why Jamie Chadwell's beloved by the Carolina Panther fans. Exactly. This guy can get a win. This team can't. Is Tepper back in his bag, bro?

[AJ Hawk]

AJ it kind of feels like it, right? I mean they're 3 and 3 and the fan says it feels like they're 17 and 0. There's something about that. Like, hey, when you're not used to winning year in and year out, like winning is really fun. It really is. Until that standard is like, hey, we should be competing for super bowls.

[Pat McAfee]

There was 200 people at that last game right there. What was it, $5 tickets against the Falcons, $2 tickets or something like That, I mean they were in a bad, bad spot. Then he offered up the entire stadium for the hurricane relief concert with Luke Combs and Caleb and Church, I think, and everybody that was doing that. And then all of a sudden maybe vibe started changing. See Cambre occ couple a curse. You can go from most hated owner in all of sports to maybe turning some things around. And I think Carolina's proving that right now. Let's go to the next overreaction. Donald gim at Loco Gore 66 Loco Gore. This guy's crazy, bro. Hashtag I don't want to overreact, but the New York jets aren't winning a game this year. Negative 10 net passing yards and nine sacks on Justin Fields. Congrats. You've single handedly set back the NFL plans in Europe by about the 10 years. At least they got their first takeaway. Hashtag 0 and 17. Hashtag first pick in the NFL draft and probably another one. Hashtag Fuck this team. Yeah, it's how jets fans feel. But I do appreciate the fact that jets fans say, hey, it's kind of selfless of jets fans, which I don't think any of us expected. Hey, we get to sit through this misery every week, every year. Okay. We are a select group. Don't make England do this. No. Don't make all of your Europe do this. Don't make the entire country waking up having a little brunch, little eggs with the family. Don't make them be forced to watch this shit on TV. I like the jets fans are saying that jets vs Broncos defense looking ahead had to be the biggest nightmare lineup schedule for London in the history. Just with what Justin Fields was, what they're trying to build how it's going to go. That Broncos defense feasted and it was very apparent that that they were out witted, out, dueled out, done.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

When it comes to the jets offense and Aaron Glenn before halftime, I will go back to it. He has the same eyes we have and he's saying let's get the halftime please, let's get out of here. I don't want to do this anymore. They'll get, they can get that fixed. They can figure it out.

[Connor]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

But I think the Broncos defense is going to do that to a lot of people.

[Connor]

I think they're also it like, I mean we're kind of joking but also like if we really do want to grow the game internationally, like I get good teams don't really necessarily want to give up a home game to go play. You can't Be sending the jets over there. Can't be sending these shitty teams over there. Like that used to be the thing. Hey, we got a game in England. Let's send the Jaguars. When they sucked. Like that was the thing. We.

[Pat McAfee]

They were pretty good over there.

[Connor]

Well, yeah, I mean, you know, at.

[Pat McAfee]

Times get some wins over there.

[Con Man]

Urban Meyers first win.

[Connor]

We need to be sending good teams over here, period. Like it's just got to happen.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, especially we're waking up at 9:30 to watch it.

[Connor]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

K. We're watching this thing. So it's like a prime time game, but in the morning, starting our day. This is the entire NFL Sunday. It's entire day. We need it to be great.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, we do get one good thing out of this. And this is McQuade Facts. Did we get any new. That's a good McQuaid Tibbit jerseys.

[Pat McAfee]

See, but that's a really good question actually. Did. Did we get any?

[Connor]

Yeah, yep. I. McQuaid actually did send us a couple here.

[Pat McAfee]

So shout out to Quaid. NFL.

[Connor]

Yep. @ McQuaid. NFL. Michael McQuaid. So he what. You know, we were talking about how this game was a snooze fest pretty much. And he just kind of wanted to put it in comparison to the. The Croak park game. Lads in. In Ireland. So obviously, 700 or excuse me, 74,512 fans in Croke park in Ireland registered 120 decibels in that game. Very loud. Very, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

Really?

[Connor]

Yeah, incredibly loud.

[Pat McAfee]

Loud.

[Connor]

I believe McQuaid actually had like the little meter in his hand for the entire game while he was calling it. 120 decibels. Lads in Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, which is where this game was played on Sunday, 62, 850 fans only registering 94 decibels. Now, could that be, you know, a sleepier game? Obviously 1311. Kind of more of like a baseball game score. Not really an NFL game score. Lots. But McQuaid actually wanted to go a step deeper than lads. He got some readings from the Tottenham substation, which is basically a power grid near. Near the area. Because he said, well, you know, yeah, decibels is one thing. I want to. I want to measure gigawatts.

[AJ Hawk]

Sure.

[Connor]

Which is obviously what we're measuring, you know, for electricity and that kind of stuff. Believe it or. Believe it or not, he. He had some boots on the ground at the Tottenham substation. Only registered 300, 000 gigawatts in that game. If you go to the Croak park game.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay, we need comparison.

[Connor]

Yeah, exactly. Well, Yeah, I mean, McQuade's not half assing anything. There's not a. A power station that close to CRO Park. So McQuade got in his car right after the game, drove down to the B. Lumford power station, which is about an hour and 15 minutes, let's say roughly 75 kilometers away from Crok Park.

[Con Man]

Okay.

[Connor]

That actually registered 500,000 thousand gigawatts. 200,000 more.

[Pat McAfee]

66 more.

[Connor]

66 more. And a lot of people. McQuaid himself was saying, maybe that is because, you know, Carson Wentz and the lads are out there, and Carson Wentz may need to. We. We mentioned it. You lads mentioned it. Carson Wentz may need to just stay internationally. Bounce from England to Yarland to, you know, Madrid. He. He needs to be the international quarterback. And I'll even go a step further, lads. He might need to play quarterback. Quarterback for both teams.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, I didn't even think about that. Beginning stages of football, that would be a very normal move for them to catch up. 500, 000 gigawatts to 300, 000 gigawatts. Electricity from Ireland, obviously on display all morning.

[Connor]

Yeah, Exactly. And for McQuade to go down to the Bali Lumford power station.

[Darius Butler]

I can picture him down there.

[Connor]

Yeah, exactly. Went spelunking down there. Pretty much, yeah. Said I got to find out the actual wattage of this because it's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

Lots. And that's another McQuaid fact.

[Connor]

Thank you, McQuaid.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's go to another overreaction. This one's from the Yeet and yinzer at our Bibby 76. Love everything he's about. He won that title, too. He didn't buy it. It's on his chest. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Stillers are a team of destiny. It's written in the tombs of the great pyramids. The stars are aligned. Mother Ayahuasca has spoken. Myron Cope and Joe Nordo are smiling. D. Here we go, baby. Eatonzer speak for all of you, Tone.

[Tony]

Yeah, they do. We are finally back to playing Steelers football. And I've been asking that for a long time. You know, there was a time this year where my hope had faded a bit, and that was against the Seattle Seahawks. But I didn't know at the time how good of a team Seattle Seahawks were. First two weeks of the season, the Steelers defense was giving up 150 rush yards a game, and they were only sacking the quarterback one and a half times a game.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Tony]

Those three games since that, they're averaging five and a half sacks a game. They're only giving up 80 yards rushing per game. Last three games, they've had six sacks, six sacks and five sacks. So they are now playing Steelers defense again like they were supposed to. And then we're running the ball.

[Adam Schefter]

We're bully ball.

[Tony]

Aaron's getting the ball out quick. DK Metcalf was the best investment that the Pittsburgh Steelers have ever made. Things are great.

[Pat McAfee]

Jaylen Ramsey, two sacks. He gave a great quote afterwards. I'm going to tell my kids that I played in a game with TJ Watt and Miles Garrett and I got two sex. That's pretty crazy. All the money they've invested, seemingly working for this.

[Darius Butler]

Yes, Definitely paying off. That's what you want the money you spend to show up on game days. Now, I think the Browns helped them out a little bit. I don't know how many times Dylan Gabriel threw the ball, but I feel like he threw it 79. So that's. That's never a position you want.

[Pat McAfee]

52, I think.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, that's. I mean, that's crazy. Especially when you have the. I think they have talented backs back there, but yeah, this is the Steelers you want now. Now, Dan O. He's come along. He's come over on the other side. Everybody's kind of on that bandwagon. Do you think? I know you're usually kind of pessimistic. They can actually make a run down the stretch and fake, you know, the Bills, the Patriots, the Colts. Can they actually make a run to the top of nfc?

[Con Man]

Well, tell them, Tony. Patriots lost to the Steelers already.

[Connor]

Yeah, that was.

[AJ Hawk]

It was good.

[Pat McAfee]

Different teams, both of them.

[Tony]

Good ball game early the in five, Turner.

[Connor]

I do, I do.

[Tony]

I feel really good about it. The Chiefs are the team that scares me.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's talk about that defense, though. Chiefs obviously found it on offense. We all saw it the last few weeks. The Chiefs are still the Chiefs, which is certainly going to be a conversation piece. But this Pittsburgh Steelers defense, Jaylen Ramsey obviously getting home. Herbie, that little. He did so good.

[AJ Hawk]

So good with his hands, man. Herber, his. Like his body angle his hands like that. Dude's a stuff.

[Pat McAfee]

This one right here. Oh, no.

[AJ Hawk]

That was at that, like.

[Darius Butler]

Could add a pick, too.

[AJ Hawk]

Imagine if they played on field turf. How much. How you could bend much better because the grass isn't going flying up your cleats. You're not following every play.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I didn't even think about the Pittsburgh Steelers and Acres are working against your defensive line every. You guys have the defensive line and you guys are working against it with. I mean Bitsburg Steelers might be for real. Humbo.

[Connor]

They are.

[Tony]

They're. It feels like yesterday was finally one where it's like, oh, okay, this. This felt like you get. There's sometimes the wins that don't feel great or whatever. And it's, you know, like we got lucky. This one felt good. This one, I mean, 22 straight at home against the Browns. So they're going to give you that. But, you know, it felt right.

[Pat McAfee]

No, but the Browns got to figure it out. How about Coach Tomlin today?

[Tony]

AJ he never does that.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, he's the man. I love it.

[Pat McAfee]

I love.

[AJ Hawk]

Hey, hopefully as he goes he gets even more and more wide open with it.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, Andrew Barry must be smarter than all of us, I guess this guy. So this guy's good enough to be your start. Carter five weeks ago. Now you're trading them in the division to a team that has no chance. We don't care. Are we. Are we trying to win football games or what are we. What the is going on? Love the Tomlinson.

[Tony]

He also knows that this week I believe Steelers are in. Tomlin is 0 and 6 on the road on Thursday nights against divisional opponents. So he needs one here.

[Pat McAfee]

He said don't matter what it happened in the past. I'm talking about the 20. He said I've got my ass kicked in a verb, variety of ways. 19 years. It was awesome. Let's go to the next overreaction. Carson Spence at Carson Spence20. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but I was about 30 seconds away from fully giving up on the Charger season. But that six. Six son of a. Took some hits and delivered a win. Fully back until they lose again. Hashtag bpfu, hashtag boat up. Carson Spence telling the truth over there. That's right. I mean we can't stress this enough. The the Miami Dolphins, okay. McDaniel's come out and said Tua can't be doing it with what he said in that moment at that time. That can't be what our franchise quarterback's doing. McDanielson Tua doing that because it's a loss press conference instead of a win press conference. So they had the lead with 40 seconds left. Touchdown drive down the field. They do the Miami Dolphins. Darren Waller, we just added them activated him. He's got five touchdowns, this guy. Everything could be going in the right direction for the Miami Dolphins. But instead to old buddy Carson Spence's point, this 6, 6 mighty man, as Harbaugh described him, walks down the field and Cameron Dicker goes 14 of 14 on the season and hits a game winner. It's like, that's crazy how much a narrative can change. But with that being said, the Chargers lose this game in the past. Yeah, this is a game that the Chargers lose in a pass instead of winning.

[Darius Butler]

That's how fickle, you know, winning, losing is in the NFL. This could have been easily the third loss in a row for the Chargers, you know, and you, it's all doom and gloom, but yeah, you can make that big time play. And as a defense, you go out there, less than 50 seconds left, they have one timeout. You got to find a way to get a stop lab McConkey, I mean, he's an unbelievable talent. You get him the ball, he made something happen. It was special. And then Dicker, the kicker, who doesn't miss doing his thing. So that's two phases of your game. Game winning that game for you. And on the flip side, as a quarterback, as the leader, it's always a leadership council on the team. But he's at the top of that leaderboard as a quarterback. You can't come out to the media.

[Pat McAfee]

And say like that, Kamani Vidal, I believe is his name. He 18 rushes, 124 yards, three receptions, 14 yards and a touchdown. This guy's unbelievable. Obviously they have a lot of injuries at a lot of different positions out there in la. Harbaugh doesn't care. Neither does her. Herbert. Special team win over there, AJ Especially in the time crunch that they had to do with it.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it was impressive. Look at Vidal. Can you imagine tackling this dude? Look how big his lower body is. Like guys like that, that run behind their pads, I hate that cliches. Oh, they run behind their pads. But look at him just. There's no easy way to get this dude down when he runs hard. He's got to get some shake to him as well. So it was impressive win for real. But yeah, the Dolphins to a situation that's just. That's bizarre right now. Dano definitely was thinking of them when he thought the coach was getting absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

Kamani Vidal, Troy, running back, third team all American. Okay. Coming out of college. And then now he might find himself a job for the next few years because how special he's been for this Chargers team.

[Tony]

Yeah, and luckily for the Dolphins, they got dowdelled and then they got Vidal. So, I mean, it's. That's Just bad luck for Dolphins going up against two of the best running backs in the league.

[Pat McAfee]

It's okay.

[Tony]

Any running back in the league's going for 200 on this defense. Defense that's just clockwork. Judkin's gonna do it on Sunday in Cleveland. Don't worry.

[Connor]

Boys is gonna keep rolling.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I'll tell you what, it doesn't feel like you guys are quitting it all on each other. All right, let's go to the next one. Three games.

[Tony]

Three games we lost that you could have won. That's how close the NFL is, you know?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And I'm just saying that everything we're hearing out of there feels like kumbaya in that locker room.

[Connor]

Good culture.

[Tony]

It's kind of just. Every time Tua gets on a microphone, he just says something that just doesn't need to be said.

[Connor]

It's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Every time.

[Tony]

Every time. Time he gets to the podium, he says something absurd.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, what do you mean? I. I heard he SC throws five touchdowns.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Tony]

He'll go home, crack a smile, he'll be fine, carry on, throw three touchdowns, bury the whole team like it's $212 million.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude, you're the leader of the team.

[Tony]

You got to do something better than that.

[Pat McAfee]

He was trying to speak to the boys.

[Tony]

He wasn't.

[Darius Butler]

Think so, huh?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I think everybody has said not the right time or the right thing to say. Say bring up something nobody knows about and then say, I'm trying. They're not. It's like you're. You're grandstanding on something. You're building the. At the time, you just lost. Nobody wants to hear it. Just a little self awareness, I think is all Gumpy's looking for. I think that is what everybody.

[Tony]

They also like.

[Pat McAfee]

I know they lost.

[Tony]

They stink. I get it.

[Pat McAfee]

But he could have been a little.

[Tony]

Like, they fought back to take the lead and then they obviously lost. Like there was positives to take instead.

[Pat McAfee]

Of just throwing that out there. Well, he took ownership, too. There was a lot of other things said at that press conference, which I saw a lot of people saying. I want to hear him say he threw three interceptions. It's his fault. It's like he did. He did just. The only thing that got clipped is him throwing his teammates on a bus for something we didn't know his teammates were even doing, you know, which is nice. And also taking shot at leadership, which he in there rightfully said. We. He did say as leadership. So I think he owned that a little bit, but it's Ugly down there. You're all right, Dolphins fans.

[Con Man]

Yeah, you're all right.

[Pat McAfee]

Why you not?

[Darius Butler]

It's a lie.

[Pat McAfee]

Cuz. You never know. Every day is a closer day to the right answer for the Miami Dolphins.

[Connor]

Yeah. Which in this case, every day is a day closer to Mike McDaniel getting fired and kind of blowing up the whole thing and restarting.

[Pat McAfee]

If you don't get rid of Chris.

[Tony]

Greer, not the matters. Nothing else matters. If Chris Greer still has a job.

[Pat McAfee]

You get rid of McDaniel.

[Tony]

Keep to. It's all going to be the same. If Chris Greer is still there, we still won't win a playoff game. Since the moment he's been there, there's.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of football left.

[Darius Butler]

He stinks before him too.

[Tony]

Does Chris Greer wear those high joggers too or no?

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Tony]

He wears a hat with a suit.

[Pat McAfee]

Looks super cool. It sounds like he looks cool, but it's just not turning out the way envision it. A lot of football left though. Don't give up.

[Darius Butler]

It is a lot of ball though, right?

[AJ Hawk]

It's kind of scary to think there's a lot of ball left at the same time.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But it's also kind of scary to know that we're deep into the season already, bro. I texted Connor last night like, hey, we're in it. In it right now. We're in the season right now. We are deep in the season. There's about to be like maybe a little rookie wall that's about to hit actually with how we're in the season with. There's no light at the end of the tunnel and they're deep in this entire thing. Senior year, last year of college draft combine, pro prep. Right in the spring, right into summer, right in the training camp, right into an NFL preseason, right into NFL season. It's like we're getting into it right now. We're about to hit that like two weeks. It's going to be potentially something. Unless they're mentally tough and warriors and ready for ball. You know who's a warrior? This guy once absolutely sawed down the Packers. It's from John's antics. Seemingly got long hair at JB Colorado Springs. Heard great things. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but this packers team could be in trouble coming out of a buy and we're barely scraping by the bungles. Feels like they haven't had a complete game since week one. Let me know who still has them as super bowl favorites cuz I have a bridge in Arizona to sell them. There's no bridge. That's what he's saying. Ty, do you feel the same way he does? We just came out of a buy. We're scraping. And by the bungles, they got Joe Flacco. They're still an NFL team. There's always a chance they can win.

[Connor]

Yeah, I mean, as a whole, you know, the super bowl favorites obviously feeling much different about this team than I did after week one when they beat the Lions. They just, they play to the level of their competition, which good teams typically don't do. Like, there's no reason that the Bengals should have, you know, hung around with them yesterday. They don't step on anybody's throats. They don't have any killer instinct. So, yeah, like, things can change. Obviously, it's still early. They're technically first in the division. I was telling some of the guys earlier, you know, I personally, I don't know if a team who's ever tied is going to win a Super Bowl. I think that maybe just like a football gods thing, they don't want that one in the thigh column at the end of the season. But we'll see. It's just weird because one, one week the offense looks great and the defense looks like shite, and then the next week the defense looks like shite, but the offense. Offense is rolling. So it'd be nice if there was just a bit of consistency there, but we'll see. You know, things could be a lot worse. I mean, it's one of those things where it's like, are you really gonna that much about being three one and one and being in first place right now? But that's the fun of it. Yeah, I am gonna. Because I think this team could win a Super bowl. And as of right now, you know, they're just. I'm just not seeing it.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, what's a successful season? Winning the Super Bowl? What if they win a playoff game and then lose?

[Connor]

No, I think you have to go to at least the NFC championship this year. It's the Packers. Same deal. Jordan love. They. They. He's getting paid over $50 million. You just paid Micah Parsons basically $50 million. Like they're in their heads. Micah Parsons was the piece that was missing. He was the piece that was going to be able to take them to the Super Bowl. So you. Yeah, you can't either. Making the playoffs doesn't work like I, I expect them to win the division. And especially when you look at the NFC right now, like there are some teams that are.

[Pat McAfee]

But.

[Connor]

But going into the year, it Was like, wow, how is anybody going to be able to compete with the Eagles? And clearly they look how they look. So like, the NFC is kind of wide open.

[Pat McAfee]

The hell's going on with the Eagles? We'll find out. Let's talk about the NFC's top dogs. This is from Jimmy Briggs at Gingerbriggs. 36. He's got a very light complexion in red hair. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but simply put, Baker's playing like an electrocuted Tasmanian Devil out there. Call it now. Bucks are the super bowl champs. Give Baker the MVP and the keys to the city. Give her wide receivers room some Tylenol and watch the boys win out. Four wide receivers out. Okay. Two tackles out at the beginning of the season. They have yet to put out their best team, and they're 4 and 1. Baker Mayfield has been outrageous. A.J.

[AJ Hawk]

Hawk, he's been awesome. And they. They cut to the sidelines during this game, and you see Godwin and Mike Evans stand there in street clothes like, wow, this is unbelievable what they're able to do with so many guys hurting. So many superstars hurt. So, yeah, Baker is. He's on a run right now. As long as Baker can stay healthy and keep this juice up, man, like, why not Baker for the MVP in the Bucks to make a run at this thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Incredible graphic here, Bone, honestly.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Bones. You can tell that Bone really was excited about this one. You know, there's some where he misses, sure. But there's some where he really hits.

[Connor]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

And he gotta go for it to hit, but if you go for it, you miss. It's. It's obviously a bigger conversation. Bone had a good day. Yeah, Bone's doing well. It's one with the mirror and Peyton Manning and Marvin. Yeah, that was pretty good too. Yeah. In Bone. I think he's doing a little bit, maybe even night before prep.

[Con Man]

Oh, boy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's crazy.

[Tony]

Smart guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Bone. We appreciate you, brother. Baby Bono. Graphic department still work over there?

[Tony]

Boys, you know why WWE events were.

[Darius Butler]

In the morning this.

[Tony]

This weekend? So he didn't have.

[Pat McAfee]

On that note, the boys are watching us in Australia. They definitely aren't watching us now because I guess we've been on ESPN over there. They're watching us. The crew. Camera crew. Oh, nice. Yeah. It had to be 3, 8. Pretty late. They had to be doing it.

[Tony]

You were. You were 12 plus 2.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Tony]

So it would have been 14 hours at night.

[Pat McAfee]

So they texted me at 1:40 saying they were watching what's at 3:40.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I think the boys might have had one over there a little bit. It sounds like maybe they're having. They've been over there a while. See? What happened to the vision I heard, man?

[Connor]

What happened?

[Pat McAfee]

That was this morning, right?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Tony]

What happened?

[Darius Butler]

Just felt it.

[Pat McAfee]

Seth freaking Rollins. He's not.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. All right.

[Pat McAfee]

He might not be okay ever again.

[Con Man]

Sucks.

[AJ Hawk]

Really?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Braun Breaker saw him in half. The vision now split. Holy. On it.

[AJ Hawk]

That's understandable.

[Connor]

Crazy.

[Con Man]

Yeah. So it's got a kid.

[AJ Hawk]

It's Bron Breaker.

[Pat McAfee]

I happened early this morning.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Safe travels back, everybody.

[Connor]

That's right.

[Con Man]

And girls.

[Pat McAfee]

And girls. Yes, of course. Let's go to the next overreaction, Jake Roth. Hashtag, did you see. Speaking of girls, did you see Ria over there?

[Con Man]

We saw her do a shoe.

[Connor]

Yeah, sorry. Do a shoey.

[Pat McAfee]

When she walks out there, the way that place. That has to feel so cool for her.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Like an entire country around. It's almost like. Like an Olympic. It's. It is like an Olympic sport. Whenever she walks out there and boy, what an absolute beast. And then Brunson Reed gets a win over Roman Reigns.

[Darius Butler]

That's.

[Connor]

I agree.

[Tony]

Well, Roman told us jet lag lagged.

[Pat McAfee]

He's been jet lagged since he was over there. He said body a little bit sore.

[Con Man]

Was Ray Gun there?

[AJ Hawk]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know if they did any of that. Did they do any of that?

[Con Man]

I don't know. They do a lot of gimmicks now with all this stuff on the ring.

[Pat McAfee]

How many things from that Olympics do you remember outside of Ray Gun.

[Con Man]

The sniper.

[Darius Butler]

The kid from here.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Con Man]

The gold medalist. Chinese sniper. The woman and the Russian looking dude.

[Connor]

Silver medalist.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Connor]

Cole Hawker, the Indianapolis kid who won 15.

[Con Man]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Kevin Durant went crazy a couple different times. Tyrese Halliburton really kept the team together.

[Tony]

Women's 3 on 3 team didn't win a game.

[Pat McAfee]

True River. Oh, yeah.

[Connor]

Sky Scheffler won a gold medal.

[Darius Butler]

Boom.

[Con Man]

And cried while they were doing the national anthem. That was so sick.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. Represent a country. Yeah.

[Con Man]

Chills.

[Pat McAfee]

And then also Ray Gun. Right?

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

One of the top stories of the Olympics.

[Con Man]

Yeah. Break debut.

[Pat McAfee]

It's good Olympics was pretty good Olympics.

[Con Man]

It was a good Olympics.

[Pat McAfee]

I feel like Olympics only going to get better and better. Just content in a content world that we're in. I think things are only going to get better.

[Con Man]

I think lacrosse, it'll. It genuinely will help a lot.

[Pat McAfee]

Are they letting the native team exist?

[Con Man]

I'm not sure. And to be fair, it Is it's a different game than like the pro league. But I think their version of it is the NLL version and I think it's going to do really well.

[Pat McAfee]

So if there was a Canadian team, a United States of America team, and a native team, I think that would be good tv. Not that any of the other countries don't have good teams, but it's like I feel like that would draw a lot of interest a lot. Especially because the sports beginnings. Right. I mean that's how.

[Con Man]

Yes. And any, any argument that's like, well, if we have a native American team from North America America, like then there might be other Native American teams that want to play and like, sure, that's valid. But the Native American team from North America will win the gold medal. So it's a little different than some of the other possible situations.

[Pat McAfee]

The USA boys and the Canadian boys, like hey, hey, let's not talk about that. Remember, some big things happened.

[Con Man]

Well and they probably want, I'm sure Team USA and Team Canada wants the natives that are American.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah, definitely. That's why they're like, let's not be pushing for this too bunch airbuds. We need another gold medal. We will get worked out here.

[Connor]

Also very excited for flag football and to see how many NFL guys play.

[Pat McAfee]

In that and also our girls flag. I hope we dominate and that one should be who's running USA Football. Remember we hated that. Didn't we hate USA Football.

[AJ Hawk]

Who's doing it?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know exactly.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

It'S not Debone but Debone was contacted by USA which after watching his highlight. Understandable.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Especially with how good he was with his eye grader.

[AJ Hawk]

Man, he's a road grader for real. He looked good.

[Pat McAfee]

And he's a hardy brother with his eye black. Worst thing relative with how good his his paint stays on his face. That was fourth quarter. I didn't see a smear. No, no, not a single smudge.

[Con Man]

He was.

[Pat McAfee]

He was pulling. He was pulling all over everything. All right, last overreaction here from Jake Roth at jakeroth13. Hashtag I don't want everybody reacts but we can officially retire the sentence. Stefanski is a two time coach of the year. This guy's a certified. Never in my life that I think I would rather watch that lunatic Ken Dorsey cult than what I'm currently watching. Brown's got a lot going on. Good luck over there team.

[Con Man]

Good luck.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you to everybody who tweeted alongside of us. Thank you for watching today. We'll Be back tomorrow. Reacting to the end of week six of the NFL, this evening has two games are played. The Bills and the foul Falcons, the Bears and the commanders. A.J. hawk is on the Bills minus three and a half. I am on the Falcons plus three and a half, as is Darius Butler after he found out that Jeezy will be performing at halftime. And then Bears at Commanders on ABC starting at 8:15 with Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. AJ Hawk is on the Commanders minus five and a half. I am on the Chicago Bears plus five and a half and debut is on Bears. Bears plus five and a half as well. Okay, me, you d, but go. Let's have a night tonight. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Shout out to Indiana, getting a win. Shout out to Oregon for the hospitality. Place is beautiful. It was really nice. Dan Lenning took a shirt off. That was awesome. That was not. Neither of us had any idea that any of that was happening because Nick Saban gave the whole, why don't you fire these guys up a little bit? I'm like, oh, I didn't expect Saban to ask that question. I like that. And I think Dan felt obligated because Saban asked the question. Question. Well, I gotta do something to save it. Gotta do this entire thing. So he stands up and then he looks at me and says, well, you want to take that off? Because the jacket, he wanted us to potentially green, yellow out, you know, because the whole whiteout thing that happened at Penn State, I'm like, sure, take jacket up. Then I see him saying, okay, we're going up on top of this thing. And then obviously, if we're up there. Yeah, what do we do?

[Connor]

Yeah, you gotta do it.

[Pat McAfee]

We gotta take the shirt off here. Him doing that, awesome. The amount of ink he has.

[Connor]

Yeah, massive.

[Pat McAfee]

That had to hurt so bad.

[AJ Hawk]

Very painful area.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I have like, one tiny little tat for my daughter here. He had that thing filled up completely for his wife, who we told her story last year about her battling, I believe, through some cancer and everything else with their beautiful family. It's like, Dan Lanning's a badass. I got nothing but respect for Oregon. I did say or imply that their baseball team wins a bunch of national championship. Oregon State fans told me that's not the case. Kaylee Craig. They create MLB players. They don't create national championships. That's what Oregon State does. I apologize to the Beeves for taking it away from you, but neither me nor Dan knew this was happening. He had no idea in the middle of it, which. What makes a beautiful morning on game day and why we're incredibly lucky to be there. And yeah, thank you, Oregon. That was a hell of a trip out there. Fun show. How about Kirk traveling crazy. Peter just sitting there. Dog actual. That was a green Jeep.

[Connor]

It was Debone driving that thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Darren driving that thing.

[Tony]

Kirk didn't trust him. He knew where he's going.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, turn left here. Yeah, we're going in here. Come on, Darren. Jeez. I don't think he had Starlink on the flight, which was certainly a first question of mine. When I heard we were doing this again, I was pretty pumped up about it. You got Starlink on that plane? I don't know. I don't know. Okay, you should know, because if you have Starlink on that thing, it'd be clearer than whenever you're sitting on a set. That shit's outrageous. The plane Starlink is out of control. We had three quad boxes going on the way home.

[Con Man]

Ton crazy. That's so cool.

[Connor]

That's how it should be.

[Con Man]

That's huge.

[Pat McAfee]

Better the. The Starlink WI fi. I don't know what it is on Earth.

[Tony]

B said it was shite.

[Darius Butler]

That for me, that was what, year and a half, maybe two years ago? Maybe they've upgraded.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe more satellites are sending up there. I don't know how it is on earth down here, but on a plane, it is the greatest by far. As somebody that has been told by a flight attendant whenever I asked about the WI fi. Can you reset it? We're on a plane. Okay. That is just very recent. Like, I get it. We're on a plane. WI fi in general is technology. That's pretty insane. I think we all feel like it is wild that we're able to do any of the things that we're doing. I mean, look at this plane. How is this thing flying from the Wright brothers to. To what we're doing now. With that being said, there is WI fi that works on some of these planes. Feels like your plane doesn't work. So is there any way we can change that? I'll hit the reset, I guess, but once again, and then Starlink comes in. It's like, better WI fi than you've experienced ever at your house. Oh, yeah, it's awesome. It's unbelievable. Game changer. Yeah, Absolutely. Truly game changer for life. It really is. So I can't wait to see how that goes throughout the season. Maybe you'll get a FaceTime Major Jay. You know, if you're Ohio state team slips up, which they don't look like they have a weakness. They are so good. Julian saying Saban gave a set. He's completely like 80% of his passes or something. All we're talking about is Matt Patricia and the defense. It's like Julian Sane new starter. He's better than everybody in the league.

[AJ Hawk]

He throws.

[Darius Butler]

He throws a good ball.

[Pat McAfee]

Which was the mo coming out of camp right out of spring was like, hey, this guy can spin it. Spin it.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. He's got special like release arm talent.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

He stands in the pocket. He'll get. He's not scared to stare down the barrel and know he's going to get hit and deliver a nice ball over the middle. Yeah. The guys, I think he's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

How come they didn't. They left ducks on a pawn out there. I. Oh, there was no iOS. You see that?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I did. It's all right.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't know that when I came back and I was playing against the duck and tic tac toe that we were on tv. I thought they were potentially doing that at the other end of the table talking to Reese and Des. I didn't know we were all on television at that point. I should have been paying attention, but. But obviously I was locked in. As I got back up there, Saban and the duck were finishing up a tic tac toe game. And I could tell that Saban did not know how to play tic tac toe. Okay. Does that make sense?

[Tony]

Football?

[Pat McAfee]

No. Like he knew how.

[Connor]

He did know the strategy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He didn't know the game. He didn't know how give it away. Yeah, that's a good call. Need not give away. He. He understands that it's three in a row, but he doesn't know that there is hook, line and sinker this thing. Coach. And if we were to teach him one time, all of course. So Saban beats the duck. Cuz Duck is like kind of. Kind of patronizing coach Saban a little bit. Like, I don't think Saban knew he was getting into a tic tac tail game. And then the duck was kind of pointing at one basically for coach Saban. So I immediately looked at the duck and I. Once again, I didn't know my was on. And I said, hey, I'm a. I'm a good tic tac toe player. And the duck goes, me too. Rips off piece of paper. Here we go. We do this. I'm locked in completely. This. I assume Reese and Des are sending this to something else. Because that bison's up there, too. The Bison's up there. The new mascot, Saban's standing there. He's jacked.

[Con Man]

Great mascot.

[Pat McAfee]

Very, very jacked. That Bison is very, very jacked. And then all of a sudden, boom. He blocked the first one. So he made the first move. I make first move. He goes to opposite corner. Corner. He knew what I was doing, so I had to go from my third move is now my second move. Had to set him up, get him somewhere else. Had to drag him into the deep end. And all of a sudden, bang. Now we're back. And it was. He thought he had it, too. And then all of a sudden, he looks at it again and he hand on his thing, I go, yeah, Duck. That's. And I'm picking against you just because of this is what I told him. The Duck is by far the most moxie, good mascot out of any mascot. Mascot. The most.

[Con Man]

There's one that you should probably be at this weekend.

[Pat McAfee]

Blue. Very good. I will say blue for the Colts. Very good. What's the flopper Whopper? The one down in Atlanta.

[Con Man]

Blooper.

[Pat McAfee]

Blooper.

[Tony]

Connor's right there.

[AJ Hawk]

He flies from the roof.

[Tony]

The most athletic byu. The byu.

[Con Man]

The Coug.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yes.

[Tony]

He jumped over a flaming pair of parallel bars the other weekend.

[AJ Hawk]

He's pretty awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

I love that. That thing sends it.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So cool week. It's incredibly athletic. That would have been amazing to be at the holy war. Utah. BYU.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

One's 5 and 1, 16 0. You know, that entire state, from what we got to experience a couple years back there. Loves ball. They would shut that down.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Con Man]

Georgia. Georgia's never had it, though, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Georgia. Omar Miss. We haven't been to Georgia yet this year, which is what you were implying, I think. Cannot wait to get back down there. Obviously, a lot of greatness has emanated from that campus down there in Athens. Georgia, in Ole Miss. Getting a chance to, you know, highlight and get to an Ole Miss game for the first time since I've been on a program is awesome. And Obviously both top 10 teams fresh out of what happened with Georgia last week. A lot of people saying he was clapping timeouts. I don't know. We'll see how that goes. But if we would have went to the Holy War, which can't wait to get down here for this. It's awesome. Anytime you get a chance to experience an SEC football experience, you do it. You definitely do it. Been down in Georgia before, but I think the Holy War, I Wonder how much of a conversation it was.

[Con Man]

Yeah. I'm just pissed because the, like, the scenes are the biggest part. And by far since you've been doing game day, the worst scene's been Georgia every time you've gone. But it's just one of those things where, like, BYU and Utah will both be 6, 0 and 5 and 1 at some point in the future. Within.

[Pat McAfee]

For the next holy war.

[Con Man]

100 years.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. For the next holy war.

[Darius Butler]

We got Bailey Zimmerman and Luke Combs, too.

[Con Man]

Yeah, it's big. Holy.

[Pat McAfee]

I love Luke and I love Bailey. I like both of them a lot. I think this was. I think they got them on the schedule for this weekend no matter where we were headed to. And obviously Georgia, I assume big Luke Combs and Bailey Zimmerman fans, which would have been sick. So, yeah, I'm pumped to get a little music in there, a little entertainment, Have a good time. Athens, though, does have a lot of college game day experience. There's been a lot of game days there. Lot of game days there. I. I mean, I've been kicked out of a restaurant down there.

[Connor]

It's good.

[Con Man]

Yeah. Carson's back. Dad spilled water all over my pants. And then he didn't say sorry, and he just gave Kirk her street a hat. Actually, he gave me a hat to give to Kirk Herbstreet, so that was fun. I'm a Georgia guy. I like the dogs. Ugga is my. Ugg is one of my favorite, favorite mascots in the whole entire world.

[Pat McAfee]

Hotels weren't great either. I'll just pile on real quick.

[Con Man]

Good point. Hotel bar closed at 11. I was like, okay, I guess it's not go Dogs around here.

[Pat McAfee]

No, it is. You just gotta go spend money in town. Okay. Go support the town. You're in here for a game. A lot of history there for football, remember? A lot of history there for football. And this weekend, maybe be a part of it again.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Lane Kiffin and Ole Miss.

[Con Man]

That is all house.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Con Man]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Come into town. Kirby Smart. Awesome.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Huh? Kirby Smart. Awesome.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Football team. Awesome game. Huge. Gonna be great to be there.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Lucky to get down there. Who's that coming down a track?

[Darius Butler]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a main machine. Red and black.

[Connor]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

How many times that's gonna happen?

[Darius Butler]

Is that our early leave?

[Pat McAfee]

What's that on my pick? Yeah, yeah, don't you worry about my picks, okay? I do happen to fancy one particular team over another team in this particular matchup. Wow. Doesn't mean that won't change on Saturday. Even during the show, I will say, okay, there are a couple picks that have been made where I am allowing the vibes decide how I think the game is going to go, because I think you can get a sense.

[Con Man]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Of how, you know, everything feels, how the universe is in that moment. Moment. So I've switched before.

[Darius Butler]

Have you had one this year where you switch based on the vibes?

[Pat McAfee]

Yes.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Penn State. And let me tell you, that was 15 days ago.

[Con Man]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And we're in a much different time now. And we were then. And yeah, life is crazy. College football is awesome. We'll be back tomorrow, aj Good luck with your picks tonight, brother.

[AJ Hawk]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you.

[AJ Hawk]

I need it.

[Pat McAfee]

We need you to hold it down for us in the NFL. NFL side of the things. Great work in the back, boys. All right, we got another episode of Rushmore on X coming out tomorrow morning. Bands. Greatest bands.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Bands. Yeah, we got Rick Rubin and Jimmy Iovine on that thing. Obviously, Ari and Ben Persky will be the host. It is a good one. This is a. Jimmy Iovine is one of the funniest humans of all time. I don't know how many different things have been said about Jimmy Iovine. I think a lot. Negative guy's been around a long time. I think obviously he's done a lot of very positive things as well. But there's certainly, I think, negative stuff that has been said about him in the past. Once you watch these episodes that he's on, there's a couple music ones. You're going to think he's one of the funniest people of all. Jimmy I. Bean throws Absolute gas.

[Connor]

Yeah. 110 miles an hour.

[Pat McAfee]

And Reuben obviously OG just like throughout the entirety of the episode. It's incredible. This one's sick. And they even. There's a lot of learning about modern music tying back to even like the 70s music. And there's a band name that's mentioned on this thing tomorrow that you're going to never heard of. And then every song you listen to, you're just going to think of this. This band and how they're not reaping the benefits.

[Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

At all. Of anything that they did. So it's a cool trip down memory lane. We're lucky to be a part of this. And the boys did a great job editing it, producing it, creating it. And then obviously Ari and Ben piecing that whole thing together. Way to go, boys. So that's tomorrow morning. Should be good. I think you learn a lot about music. If you like music, it's a Great episode. If you don't like music, don't fucking watch. But if you don't like music and you're signing up to watch greatest bands, I don't need to hear your shit.

[Connor]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Tony]

I don't like music and I watched it and I thought it was great.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, there you go. Yeah, but you're being forced to say that because you're a sellout. Remember? That's what everybody said.

[Tony]

That's also true.

[Pat McAfee]

I do appreciate that people are attacking us for promoting it. I see like people obviously. Oh, he put it to that. It's like I'm like very proud of a boys. This is the first time we've been given the opportunity to like edit and create and do this entire thing. Producing the show, production company. It's like I'm very proud. Doc worked his ass off. Ass off on this and he still is. Yeah. Right now. Currently. Yeah. So it's like I'm. I'm very proud of it. I think. I think the boys have done a great job. It's great show though. Best guest lineup out of any show that's ever been created. Far none ever been created. And as Yari Manual Difference, baby. Yeah, yeah. I want to talk about bands. Who should I have on? How about Jimmy IV and Rick Rubin? Sure, dude, if you can get them.

[AJ Hawk]

All right.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll give like three episodes. Okay. Sick. I want to talk about like moguls and stuff. Who would you want to get? Ah, I'll just get Elon, I guess. Like Jeff Bezos. Yeah. Can you get Steve Jobs out of the grave too and maybe get him in this entire. There's all grandma man. It's actually giving some answers. It's. It's a crazy lineup. The conversations are epic and we tried to keep it to a length where it is very easily digestible. And tomorrow is band. So hopefully you enjoy that. We'll be back tomorrow. Overreacting to everything that happens tonight. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three, Team. Goodbye. Talk about stepping up. It's time to level up your game.

[Darius Butler]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Pat McAfee]

A 20 year old soldier goes missing from a U.S. army base.

[Heather Gynich]

How can she go missing on a military base? That's too ridiculous.

[Pat McAfee]

What would come to light is horrifying and ignites a movement that sparks a reckoning in the US Military. Listen to Vanished what Happened to Vanessa? A new series from ABC Audio in 2020. Listen now, wherever you get your podcast.