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PMS 2.0 1433 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 7 Recap, MNF Doubleheader Preview, Adam Schefter, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this massive overreaction. Monday, October 20, 2025. This program begins now. Football it's fantastic. Week seven of the NFL season is wrapping up this evening with a double header. Don't look now. Dan Orlovsky will be on a Monday Night Football call alongside Chris Fowler and Lewis Riddick on ESPN in Seattle for the Seahawks hosting a Monday Night Football matchup with the AF South's Houston Texans. And then the Tampa Bay Buccaneers look to extend their streak to be one of the top in the entire NFL. Only one loss on the season thus far, taking on a Detroit Lions team that's pretty battered on the back end. We'll certainly talk about the injuries around all four of these teams as we look ahead to a fantastic night of football. And all day today, we'll look back at a fantastic weekend of ball. Adam Schefter will be joining us in about 30 minutes or so. Dan Orlovsky will join us in the second hour. He's three hours behind, so we had a. He had to bust out a calculator to see what time is 1 o' clock here versus what time he's in. Turns out we'll be 1040 local for Dan Orlopsk wrote that down in his daily planner, 1:40 Eastern. We'll have him on chit chatting about tonight and his takeaway from a massive weekend of ball. College football is crazy. College football has been absurd. It will continue to be absurd. And there's some stats coming out from the ESPN research folks about what happened there. AP Top 10 teams have lost 18 times already this season. That's most through eight, eight weeks of a season since 2007, obviously a long time ago. And then top teams obviously have four of them fell on Friday and Saturday. The chaos of college ball continues. And then Sunday. How you doing? Keep it moving. We got 9:30 game. Yes, we do. We got one o' clock games. These things stink. We got an afternoon and a night of great football though. It has been magical. We're so thankful to be here. We hope you are enjoying the hell out of your football season as well. The toxic tables here at Boston, Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Congrats Ty on a big win for the packers over the Cardinals. Plane delay, plane delay, plane delay.
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Yep.
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Game good play, good delay. Play good delay. Play good delay. You guys come back, get a big time win. Congrats to your Packers.
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Thank you.
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You guys should be pumped about that. And then for the Patriots. Oh my God. Congratulations.
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Oh My God.
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Wow. Mike Vrabel actually good guy too. They're showing things he was doing at the Tennessee Titans. First question of every press conference. How you doing? Let's open doors for people. He's leading the team. He's pounding a squad that fired him unceremoniously. Everything's going a little too good for the Patriots. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Done. Cowboys AP ton the Steelers lost to Joe Flacco on Thursday. Don't want to laugh in your face too much. Steelers obviously have a very good chance in any team that Joe Flacco is playing quarterback for. They can certainly win a game as well. That's why he's been in the game for so damn long. Let's talk about the betting though. From this past weekend. This is the first time, long time we could say, hey, people made money and beat the books this weekend.
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Yeah. Coming into this weekend, teams that were getting 60% or more of the public bet were 15 and 36. This weekend, 5 and 4.
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Wow. Okay, we did it. It was close. It was five and four. I mean it was, it was a scrappy affair. It wasn't a 33 point fourth quarter. One of the biggest comebacks in the history of ball type thing with this, with us, with the sports books. But we certainly got one up on them for the weekend. And guess what? That's going to carry in tonight. Yeah, it is.
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You're right.
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And then that's going to carry in for the rest of the season. Don't look now. We're about to win. Yeah, yeah. Maybe all the money. Maybe forever.
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And then I talked about the teams are getting more than 60%. Cincinnati got 57%. The Chiefs got 54%. The Cowboys got 54%. So I mean, it was a good weekend for the public.
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We're starting to see it, aren't we? That's because we have incredible people on television and on the Internet and on at 4:30am on ESPN. NFL matchup show. Ladies and gentlemen, nine year NFL vet Darius J. Brothers. Are we getting smarter? Are we starting to learn these teams more? Is that why we're maybe starting to win some bets? Is that what you're thinking?
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Absolutely. Teams are just becoming who they are, building their identities. Everybody has a plan in the offseason season, training camp and then first quarter of the season, second quarter of the season. Once you kind of hit where we're getting to, that's when everybody knows who they are on both sides of the football.
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And we know who stinks. Don't we.
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Oh, we got a pretty good idea who stinks. For sure.
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Let's go to one half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys. Bubble gumpino boy, you and D Butts. Miami Dolphins. They are not.
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Fox stink.
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Bad. Bad. I mean, it's so stinky down there. It's a fish stink, too. Like whenever fish stink come down by the sea down there, it all gets bad. When everything's so cool for so long and so awesome for so long, all of a sudden when that gets spoiled, it starts going. It's the complete opposite of that. It stinks down there for the Dolphins. Wow. They get absolutely. You know, I don't want to. Well, I was going to say a lot of things here. I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna go that hard. But they get beat. Done by the Browns. Yeah. Bad weather. We should have known they weren't gonn. It is the NFL, so you're gonna have to win a tough weather game at some point if it's gonna matter. But they don't do that. This Raiders team, there's some teams that really seemingly stink out there. And if you're not one of those teams, you should be excited.
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Yeah.
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And if you're not one of those teams, there's a good chance you're gonna be featured in the first 15. Can we please put the clock on? This is driven by Ram, obviously, and they're back in the truck series next year.
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That's right.
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It'll go there and it'll certainly win that. We put 15 minutes on the clock here, but it doesn't mean we're going to take 15 minutes. This is for us to realize how long into the program we are. And also a goal. Now, we are normally hovering around 32 minutes per episode. Sure. Okay, so we are more than 100% off, but we are going to try to shoot for the first 15 minutes. But everybody knows the first 15 is in reference to the first 15th place.
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Exactly.
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First 15th place.
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Yes.
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Okay. We put the minutes on her just to kind of, you know, maybe we.
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Are who we are.
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Gotta have something.
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All right.
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Like certain tees, we like to run that clock all the way down.
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We yam what we yam. Yeah. And Indianapolis Colts before half were doing what they were doing with the clock. And J.J. walt with his glasses on wasn't happy about it. Geez. We'll talk to him about that on Wednesday. First 15 on. Here's the top five headlines coming out of week seven Sunday in our eyes. How about some bucking? Mile high magic? We Alluded to it just moments ago. 33.4-4 quarter for Bo Nix, Sean Payton on DT Day as they were honoring Demaryius Thomas life and his teammates and the super bowl champions were in town and there was a statue unveiled and everything was magical out there. You would think that the Denver Broncos would have been riding that high. You know those types of football gods games don't come around that much. This one felt like one from all parties. So when Jackson Dart, Scatterboo and the boys went in there and put up 19, nothing going into the fourth, everybody was surprised. Well, don't look now. Bo Nix gets back into the game. Let me go ahead and drop this thing. Oh, wow. How you doing? Keep it moving. Football gods maybe on their side. Get a deflection, get a tud. All momentum's on their side. Football God's blessing them. Nope. Jackson Dart says we could do one of those too. Boopdy. Boopdy to Johnson. Johnson scores. Now that obviously is going to make it 26, 8. We're right back where we thought we were a couple of seconds ago. Bo does not bow down. He answers. Bo on the move. Thibodeau. No edge, no chance. Bo Nicks touchdown in Denver. And all of a sudden with five minutes, we got a real game. Yeah, we do. 26, 16, 10 points, only two scores. What's Jackson Dart going to do with it? 456 left. Other team has one timeout. Jackson third and five. Oh no. Jackson. Oh no.
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Jackson.
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Jackson. Jackson. Rookie mistake from the rookie quarterback of the New York Giants. Will Bo Knicks take advantage of it? Why, certainly. Once again on a rollout, drop off to Harvey. Touchdown, Bo Knicks. So that's a turnover. That's a touchdown. Big Moe's rolling. How you feeling, okarry K? Not great. 26, 23. Did they leave too much time for Bo Nix to come back? Yes, and then some. Give me that touchdown. 151 left in the game. We take a four point lead. 30, 26. Jackson Dart was given no opportunity to come back. Is Jackson Dart going to be the guy who leads his team in final minutes of games? Yes, he is. Runs in it himself. Did they score too quick? Did Bo Nick score too quick for Jackson Dart? Did Jackson Dart score too quick for Bo Nix? Well, let's just go through the procedural extra point here to make sure everything's really copacetic. Miss.
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Oh, no.
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What? 33 yard extra point. How old was DT when he passed away?
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33 years old.
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How much time is about to be on this clock right here?
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Oh my God.
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33 seconds.
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Bo Nick says 33 seconds down two finds Mims over the middle shot Bo Nix. No timeouts. What are you going to do? Hurry, hurry, hurry. Rush, kill, kill, kill. Situational football stupendous from Bo Nicks offsides. Can't get back in time because you're injured. Let's go ahead and tack on five more yards then. Are we done? Are we settled here for a field goal? Will Lutz. No. Let's find Cortland Sutton. The man who carried on DT's tradition of bringing donuts in for the wide receivers. Gets a massive catch to put them even more into field goal. Down two. Bo Nick's kill at three seconds. Will Lutz walks on the field. And Will. There's only one L in Will. The other L is headed to you New York Giants as they win 3332 in an unprecedented comeback that has records breaking all over the place. There's multiple stats that you can pull from. There's one that was like 1,601 or something like that times with 18 point lead with six minutes left as a team won. Then there was another stat that came. It was like yeah, 3,677 losses. For any team that had been trailing by 18 plus in the final six minutes of the fourth quarter since the 1970 merger, there's only been one other team that's done it and obviously that was the Colts over the Buccaneers. If you remember on Monday Night Football, the stadium actually emptied out. That game was over. Peyton Manning goes crazy, the boys go bananas. And then I think Mike Vanderjagt banks in a kick and they end up winning that game on primetime and this Denver Broncos team did just that. Now obviously we're pumped for the New York Giants having a guy Jackson dart be able to lead a team into Denver on that day with all the emotion and all the energy and have massive success. Has that pick late. Obviously can't have it. Everybody's going to talk about that kicker's got to make both extra points that he missed, let alone the one in the final minute to potentially put the other team in a bad spot. But other than that, what did we learn about this Broncos team and what did you learn about the Giants in this entire process? D bucks.
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A lot of what you said the Giants. I still think all arrows are pointing up. You know, you still have, I think the quarterback of the future, maybe Dable have saved his job going to dart. But I mean we always talk about playing 60 minutes. The game's never over you talked about DT being there. They did a great job with his statue right next to Payton's. And then the Super Bowl 50 team been there to honor him. So, yeah, they weren't losing, celebrating dt. So shout out to him. We had a lot of battles against him, but, yeah. Bo nicks, the boys, 33 points in a quarter. First quarterback ever to have two rushing and two passing touchdowns in the same quarter. Just unbelievable grit. We talk about grit all the time. You just fighting to the absolute end. And that's what the Broncos did. It's always a fine line between winning and losing. The National Football League, this is something we never seen before. We saw the win probability. We always see that chart. I think this one got up to like 99.8, which is insane. So to get it all the way down there, get it done, man. The Giants fought, and obviously people appointed the kicker. But everybody can point themselves in that locker room and look at different moments in time where they made a mistake and put their hand up and say, I could have done better. But this is football, man. You stick beside your guys. You keep fighting. An unbelievable win for the Broncos.
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Obviously, that 33 points is the most points in the fourth quarter by any team they'll shut out in the first three quarters in NFL history. Sure. Yeah. He says if you stink through three quarters, you're not just going to have an offensive explosion in the fourth quarter. Unless you're Bo Nixon, Sean Payton, interesting relationship. Because I feel like we're up on them at the beginning. We didn't really know then. We're up on them then. They're kind of not being talked about. Now they have a massive fourth quarter. What do you think the story is of Bow and Sean Payton? When Sean Payton drafted, Bo loved him. He came on our program. Actually, we had to draft spectaculars before we were with espn, where we were espn.
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I think that might have been our first year on espn.
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Yeah. Whatever the case, he said, I love this guy. Everything about him felt like a match made in heaven. Then had to go through their own learning this year. That win, that moment, is this what's going to propel them to being great the rest of the season?
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I mean, I would assume a game like that kind of has you believe in, like, hey, no matter what happens, we can win. But I think because he started so much in college and because he is a little bit older, maybe, you know, some people would like Bo Nick, they. They view him more as more of a veteran guy. Like, hey, we should let this guy throw a little Bit more as opposed to kind of really managing him. But, I mean, you talk about like a personality match. Like he. He does kind of REM Of Drew Brees a little bit. And we obviously know the relationship those two had. So I like that Bo Nix, because that. That was kind of the big thing with Russ is, you know, like, we knew right away, hey, these guys don't get along. They go back and forth at each other. But clearly Sean Payton trusts Bo Nicks when it matters the most. And yeah, if you're a Broncos fan, I think you're thinking, hey, this might be the team this year.
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And also, you just don't care you won the game. You know, like as. As terrible as the first three quarters are. Like, you shouldn't, if you're a Broncos fan, be like, well, it was the Giants. The Giants are good, too. Now I have a feeling.
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Defense.
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Yeah, defensively they're great. Like, they were awesome. And then even on offense, the Broncos, or defense, rather, is one of the best defenses in the NFL and they still were able to put up 32 points. Now they had, you know, I don't know, the ghost of someone in New York because the fact that they had a deflection off the hands into one of their players.
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Hands after I was just building up the dram.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. I felt like there's spirits. And then another story. Not talking about with the Broncos.
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Yeah, they played last weekend against the Jets. Jets in London. Like, they didn't have a lot of teams take a bye week after that. They fly all the way back. And this isn't flying back to the east coast. They're flying back all the way to Mountain time zone. So, yeah, they were battling it there. Started a little slow, but then obviously, you know, they got their. Their time zone legs underneath them.
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Next gen stats put out the point. You were saying I believe or somebody mentioned. Yeah, yep, there it is. The 99.8. I mean, that's plateaued at 100%. Basically, this team's been asshole game. No way they have any chances. Not that they have a sense of feel whenever they're doing these stats. And instead the Broncos come back and get a huge one. Congrats to the bucking Broncos. 5 and 2 5, too. Talking about where can it go? Well, that AFC west is all of a sudden a little bit better than it was. And that might be another headline at another moment. Let's go to the fourth headline. What do you see? Huh? What do you see? What do you see?
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Maybe a couple candidates.
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Yeah. What do you See?
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Oh yeah.
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All over the place. Not only on winning teams. Okay, here's the ones that we put up. But it feels like there's a lot of different names each weekend that could win. This MVP feels more wide open than it has been in years past. And maybe that's because the teams are at the top of the NFL right now weren't supposed to be at the top of the NFL. So all of a sudden guys that maybe you didn't know were going to be incredible or incredible and also on good teams. So we're learning a lot about them. Insert North Carolina quarterback for the New England Patriots. This guy Drake May is unbelievable right now.
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Yeah, he's the best in the business. And there's a lot of stats right now that are, you know, he's the first ever to do this. First ever to do that. Those are cool. When you had Tom Brady as your quarterback for this franchise for 20 years and then this guy's breaking Tom Brady's records, I think that's the coolest thing. He already tied 2007. Long hair model Tom Brady for most games in team history with at least 200 yards, 135 passer rating and two passing touchdowns in a season. Four is the record in an entire season. He's done it four times in seven games. He's also basically the greatest dual threat quarterback in the history of the NFL. Now we'll just say in this span of six games, but stats are telling us and people love these stats, but they're telling us it's absurd.
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LaMar's multiple time MVP.
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Sorry, sorry.
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Six games into this season, they're saying things are a little bit different for Drake than everybody else.
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Well, and that's the thing. It's not just six. It's just in a six game span. So in this six game span, this is something Lamar Jackson's never done. 150 plus pass attempts, 75% completion percentage, 125 passer rating and 150 plus rushing yards. So no matter what, I get it. There are other fantastic quarterbacks, backs. He makes no mistakes. He's taking what the, you know, defense gives you, which I feel like is a big problem. At least last year that was a big talking point. Hey, everyone's running cover two. Everyone's covered too. You know, you can't attack any more downfield. You can't do those type of things. And instead of trying to attack and making mistakes, he's just giving them what the defense is kind of given. And then now he's five and two and we're talking about him as an mvp. It's unbelievable.
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It's crazy what the Patriots have been able to do. Vrabe's going to feel so good after that. Let's talk about Dak Prescott now for The Dallas Cowboys. QBR, 81.4 through seven weeks. 7th highest ever right now. Breeze, Lamar, Rodgers, Peyton and Brady have had a higher one this far into the season, but that's obviously some epic names. And his records against the Commanders, I mean, I guess we should have known going in that he was just going to cook them. He goes into Washington as a Cowboy and beats the hell out of him. Okay. He's like LBJ.
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Yeah, he is.
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He is cowboy. LBJ going into Washington doing his thing. If Washington D.C. is taking on a Cowboy and Dak Prescott's there, he's going to beat their ass. I mean, he's undefeated. His Q yards, something through the roof. Amount of touchdowns, he has this amount of interceptions. None. 22 touchdowns, zero. Interceptions against commanders. Just seven and zero, I think is his record. And he continued his dominance. This guy's special. Debuzz.
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Yeah, he's unbelievable. The stats are one thing, but just watching him play, we all watched enough football, Been around football long enough where you could tell when a quarterback is just in a flow. You could just tell when they have complete control of what's going on. And he did a lot of this without 88 on the field. Turpin was banged up as well. But without the one of the top three highest paid wide receivers on the field with CD Lamb, he had been missing in action. George Pickens had kind of taken that mantle, become a wide receiver one. So now with CD Lamb back in the fold and Pickens still doing what he's been doing, building that reporter he's built with number four back there is unbelievable. Then Ferguson, Ferguson seems like he scores a couple touchdowns every week. So he, I think coming into this game, he led this team in target share. So if their defense can give them any help down the stretch like this Dallas Cowboys team is going to be one to fear down the stretch.
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I think a guy that's on pace to have over a thousand, both rushing and receiving, and thank God he's back. If you're the San Francisco 49ers Christian McCaffrey, and we saw this in prime time, this dude had 129 rush yards, 72 receiving yards, which is 62% of his team's total yards from scrimmage last night. That's highest percentage by any player this season. Obviously and this is what we saw from the Niners whenever they were on their run with Christian McCaffrey. Get George Kittle back last night. Now, now through the air George Kittle might not have done much but there's a bunch of stats coming out that George Kittle blocking for CMC in their run game in total is up to the right whenever he's on the field versus off the field. CMC back to his MVP form D Butch. There's a chance he wins another one.
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Absolutely. He's back to form. It was crazy because we had huge question marks about him health wise coming into the year. But from week one they've been giving him, you know, his fair share of touches. So getting on the ground, getting in the air. He talked about George Kittle. He's kind of like the Gronk now. Like he. He's the best blocking tight end when it comes to it. And then he can also be a threat in the past game as well. Wasn't last night said he was. He kind of used this game to get back in shape. But I think the 49ers and CMC he'll carry him along a long way. That defense now kind of patching them up a little bit. But it's this offense has been cooking.
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What's McCorkle Jones's record out there.
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Mac Jones I believe is four and one right now. His only loss coming to Tampa. In Tampa.
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I know, I know we don't need to do it right now but it's very.
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We're gonna do it to Shefter though. Yeah.
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Right.
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In about five min. We are going to do that to Schefter just because since day one. I think we all on this particular program are like just. I think it's because how close we were to the Mac Jones number three overall story. Okay. We were very close to that entire thing.
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Like pretty big in the room where it happened.
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Bingo. Like we were pretty in the story there. So I think just the way that all panned out and then how his career goes and then him ending up back there with the same exact people in charge. Same exact coach with everything we had been hearing that was being said and acted like. And then bang, we're going Trey Lance out of nowhere. It's like you always have that what if in there. Always cooking what if, what if, what if. And now Shanahan and Lynch are getting an opportunity to kind of live their what if and they're having a lot of success. $200 million to another quarterback. I get it. And we love Brock.
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I'm still. I'm on the island with. I'm over on the island. I'm still on the Brock pie.
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Me too. Hey, I love Brock pie.
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I'm looking forward to.
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But the conversation is if he comes back and doesn't play well, the conversation is there. Okay, we got to go back to Mac. Has to.
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And Kyle Shanahan, man, is a guy that will pick Mr. Irrelevant over a number three overall pick. I mean, it's literally already done.
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Yeah. Proofs to the pudding.
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Now, Mr. Irrelevant was very, very, very good football player.
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Yeah.
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Still is. Very, very good football player. But boy, first love Mac Jones first round talent starts doing all this. Damn, they're close. Let's go to the third one, please. Let's get to the third one. La lights up. Oh, I'm sorry. We got another. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Jeez. Yeah, Cannot get past this. Yeah, we're doing Pizzo. Oh, here we go. I see him every week. Okay. I see him with my. My actual eyes. Whenever we're down there on field and these boys are getting after it. Then we're obviously watching them on TV as they're playing against the minions. And I would like to say the grew post that the Indianapolis coach was brilliant. I think that was very good social media. They should be incredibly proud of that particular play, especially after a big time win. Chargers are known for having great uniforms. I think these. These unif. Should get thrown out.
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Yeah, Agree forever.
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I mean, it's hurt us Colts fans. We are forced to watch you guys wear this. Okay. I love the Chargers. I love the Chargers creativity. I like the Chargers mindset. I like everything about them, actually, except for these jerseys. This was disgusting to wear against us. We had to look at this. Oh, Colts fans had to watch this. We had to watch these yellow things. Now, on that note, it was a pretty good vibes while we were watching.
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Sure.
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Great.
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This Indianapolis Colts team, easy vibes. Everybody's eating. Everybody's eating. Danny Dimes could be in the MVP conversation. Jonathan Taylor's going to score three touchdowns a game. He's on pace to maybe have 4,000 touchdowns. They're talking about everything. He's on pace for the amount of tuds he has combined like four other running backs that are all big name running backs and his dance is sick. So I'm talking about when you talk about a branding, when you talk about performance wise, the Colts are it. The only thing that's bad is people aren't going to want to show these highlights because these damn Chargers uniforms are all over them now. I still believe in the Chargers. I still like Justin Herbert. He went for 421. Who do you throw the ball to?
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Oh, Doreen Oderine Gadson.
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Okay, so the second. Yeah, so we believe Miami Dolphin legend. We believe in Justin Herbert and the Chargers. We are still fans of that. But this Colts team is kind of doing what like Vandy was doing to people last year. So, like, nobody really thinks the Colts are really good.
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Yeah.
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So whenever the Colts beat your team, the fans have full pay panic, full meltdown or whatever, you know, Like, I think a lot of people out on the Chargers because they lose to the Colts this way, it's like, hey, the Colts are a very. We're a wagon. Two MVP candidates leading in on the offensive side. And that man, J.T. and the quarterback, Danny Dimes. It must be a great time to be alive to be these boys. And all they keep saying is all the right things, D. But we haven't done anything still early in the season. We got to keep going forward. They're a mature bunch that hasn't really been on a stage then.
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I love that. And the fact that everybody, you know, a bunch of the pundits and talking heads still aren't really giving them that credit. It's still going to be, I think probably the Chiefs is going to be the conversation now with how they're playing, but they're rolling. And you kind of, as a coach, it's easy to motivate the squad. You know, you don't have to deal with as much rat poison. But these boys keep playing like this, this train, people are going to keep jumping on this train. Danny Dimes, we talked about it. He's just finding guys, the offensive line. It always starts in the trenches. They've been protecting him. He's been dissecting defenses. And then Jonathan Taylor, we know all of the great running backs that have come through this organization. He has a chance to be the very best one when it's all said and done. Already up to 12 touches. You mentioned earlier, third game already this season with three touchdowns, leading the league and rushing. Leading the league and rushing yards as well. Like, he is a dominant force. So, yeah, we got two legit MVP candidates on the offensive side of the ball.
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Jt, valuable running back. He's valuable running back. Score so many touchdowns.
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Yeah, might be most valuable player.
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Yeah, he might be. He might be the most valuable player. The most in the entire league. And then Danny Dimes going crazy. Here's some stats about this Indianapolis Colts offense juggernaut led by Shane Steichen here. Most points per drive in a season, Colts. Colts 3.5. Patriots in 2007. 3.2. No big deal. They were great, right?
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C
Yeah, very, very good.
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Highest drive score rate in a season Colts in 2025. 63%. 2018. Chiefs, you ever heard of them? 53%. Fewest punts per drive in a season. Colts 19% of the time we're punting with Rigoberto Sanchez, who's a great punter, by the way. Just would like that to be known. And incredible hoarder, which was on display this weekend with people not being great at holding. 2018, Rams 24. Were they good? Yeah, I think so. Seven games in, but still, that is ridiculous. Company keep, says Hambo. Thank you, Hambo with the little tagline at the bottom. Yeah, we didn't punt for like three weeks or whatever. It's like dimes. Knows exactly what to do in every single play. Knows exactly, like even where to run. And then if it doesn't work out, Jonathan Taylor's vision is he. He'll cut that. I mean, he's going obtuse angle.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And then it's wide ass open over there too, because our offensive line has been doing incredible job. So it's a. It's fun to watch. They're not the only ones. There's a couple more MVPs that we saw from winning teams this weekend. How about over there in London Town? Or Matty Stafford. Now this guy's special. Special. And obviously Devonte Adams goes bananas. And Matthew Stafford's still doing that Matthew Stafford shit. Now he needs not to wear cleats over there on the Baltimore Orioles pitching mountain, even though that might be the best pitch that. That Mount has seen in a while. They go over to LA and absolutely crush. Devonte Adams has to be so happy about the decision to go to the Los Angeles Rams. And this is all without Puka Nua. So obviously we all miss Puka. We're all pulling for Puka. And this Los Angeles Rams team with Sean McVay at the helm is incredible. Disgusting all the time. And Stafford looks like he's 32 years old, D Bud. I mean, he looks like he's 31 right now with all the throws and everything he's doing.
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E
I know you said don't, don't do it, the cleats on the mound and all that, but whatever you did this week, do it, do it whenever. Like the teams I'm sure we talk about, it's A copycat league. When did they go over to London?
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Saturday.
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Yeah, so the latest arrival there ever. And they just showed up and absolutely dominated all these passing touchdowns in the red area. I'm sure a bunch of people that had Kyron Williams possibly on the touchdown ticket were pissed off, but great job by him. Five touchdowns. Then Devonte Adams, three touchdowns. Unbelievable performance out there. London time.
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A
And the last winning QB that we're thinking maybe MVP conversation is the guy Patrick Mahomes. Hey, I don't want to say this because it sounds disrespectful. Patrick Mahomes is the greatest at football again. And the only reason why I'm saying that is because he's playing like he was playing a couple years ago. So their offense kind of transitioned into a different offense, whether it was the personnel that they had. Remember the. There was a time where they didn't have anybody catch the ball, so they had to go on the run game. They had to do defense. They had to be very conservative. There was a time where he was wide open, throwing it all over the place, running all over the place. And they've had success both ways. Feels like we're back to showtime. Patrick Mahomes feels like it's time. He'll put the team on his back if he has to, but we're throwing the ball all over the place. We're no look. And we're doing absurd shit on a regular basis. And it'll be a headline here in about a second. Everybody knows what's going on with the Chiefs right now. As soon as anybody starts seeing some of these highlights. Rasheed Rice is back. How you doing? Keep going. Moving. Let's go and force feed him a couple touchdowns, make sure he feels welcome. We got Worthy as well. Oh, yeah. And we got Travis. Oh, yeah. And we got. And we got. And we got. And we got. Oh, yeah. And we got Patrick Mahomes from a couple years ago when he was putting the team on his damn back as opposed to the conservative offense Patrick Mahomes that he had to be. Once again, I don't want to say that he was doing anything by choice. Had to do it to win it. This is exciting. This is electrifying. And this is why as soon as the sportsbook saw a glimpse of it, there was like one game three weeks ago where Patrick Mahomes started moving. They're like, yep, yep, he's the favorite. Let's go ahead and put him right back up there with what that going to do. That AFC west is tough. There's the odds, obviously we didn't put Baker on Today's list of MVPs that we saw over the weekend because he plays tonight. So let's go ahead and get excited about that. Same with Jared Goff. So we apologize for not doing that. And yeah, I think there's a lot of great football right now with no standalones for who the MVP is. Now let's go to the third headline, shall we? LA lights up London. To your point, Darius, this is another international game, another weekend, 9:30 Sunday Eastern Time game to wake up to have a little coffee, hang out with baby girl, watch her eat some eggs and then oh yeah, we got football playing. That's amazing news. Who did I pick whenever we were doing the picks? Oh, the Jacksonville Jaguars. Because Liam Cohen had a lot of time in la. He'll know what they're doing. Yeah, that's, that's good. And his Jaguars team's good team. They're good in la. They're not going over until Saturday. They think this is a joke.
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C
Stupid.
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What you didn't remember what we didn't think about and I think I mentioned it on Friday, but it didn't hit me until late them choosing to fly over on Saturday, stay on the east coast, Baltimore, then fly over there. They have those long ass flights on a regular basis when anytime they get a fly to the east coast from L. A, it's four or five, six hours. So if they're in Baltimore and that's a five, six hour flight to London for them, it's just like we just got to get used to playing in the morning. Other than that, it is status quo. And they beat the hell out of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I mean they look fresher than any team I've seen go play international. They look better than everybody and they might have had it figured out. And this team's for real yet again, Darius.
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It's for real now. You know, offensively they're always going to be for real with Sean McVay and Matt, Matt Stafford calling the shots, but defensively with Chris Shula and some people are calling for him in some other places to take the reins, but that defense is absolutely dominant. It starts with the front in the blood first Turner, just a bunch of dogs up front. Chris Shula has the boys rolling, hunting. They lead the league in dying personnel, so they're going to get stops. But offensively they're going four points week in and week out. You talked about it. This was without Puka, who was a top two, top three wide receiver when he was playing this season. We expecting to pick up right where he left off when he gets back in here, but yeah, Matt Staff slinging the ball all across New York. This guy, he's going to be a dog as this season continues to go. And we saw him in college, Ferguson. Yeah. Second round pick. But yeah, this, this team is special to watch. And what are they now? Five and two on top of the NFC West. Yeah. So I can't wait to continue to watch these boys roll.
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Raining like hell, obviously. Tea and crumpets all over the place. Matthew Stafford loves everything about it. They're almost throwing more because it was never out there. Go ahead.
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Yeah, that's what I was going to say is to do it in the inclement weather because like it was, it was pouring and you know, I think a lot of people, maybe not so much with Stafford because he's played for so long, but they just ass room with the Rams. It's like, oh, that, that's a dome team. Like, you know, and then when they have to travel potentially for the playoffs, like they're going to be in trouble because they're so used to that. And obviously we saw last year in the playoffs, that wasn't necessarily the case. But for them to be able to go in these conditions and just beat the out of the Jaguars, I think that speaks volume.
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They pummeled these Jacks.
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Are we worried about the Jags?
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No.
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A little bit after that one. A little bit.
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No.
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London's a home game for them.
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No, but it was rainy. Number two headline. The Chiefs isn't still the Chiefs. They're better.
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B
Oh, no.
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C
Oh.
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A
I don't want to be the bearer of bad news. I think we're all seeing it. Okay. Sportsbook saw it before any of us.
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D
Yes.
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They're the ones who change the odds immediately. Somehow. They must have had a little conversation inside. Okay. When Rashid Rice obviously comes back, they're going to have another weapon. Okay? And with Worthy being faster than everybody on the field, they're going to have their this year's version of their to Tyree kill. Travis Kelce is going to somehow drink from the fountain of youth. Kareem Hunt's going to do the same damn thing. They're going to start having more weapons than everybody else. And then, oh yeah, Patrick Mahomes is going to make a decision that he's just not going to lose anymore. That's what Patrick Mahomes says he's going to do. He'll run through you, he'll run around you and then the defensive side of the ball. Hold the phone. They have a shutout. Are they good too? D budge.
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E
Well, look, you got to factor in the opponent here.
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A
Wow.
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Kenny Pickett played that man's a Super bowl champion. Exactly my point. So they ran 30 plays on offense. I don't what I should be a record, at least in the last 15. Yeah. That's unbelievable. Yeah. You know, Spags in that defense is going to figure it out and start humming and start playing well. But Patrick Mahomes is the first game, I believe, with Worthy Hollywood Brown and Rasheed Rice on the field at the same time. And you mentioned Travis Kelsey finding that fountain youth. Yeah, definitely. He's going to be open. That intermediate part of the field has to be open because as defenses and DBs, we got to get the hell back with all these guys running four times, twos all around the field. So Andy Reid, you know, they going to figure it out. Spags is going to figure it out in the tube on the special teams in that third phase. He's going to figure it out as well. So, yeah, it's not. Not a great moment for any teams in the afc. Any teams in the NFL, really, when this team in red is humming.
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A
We saw Travis Kelsey on the ERAS tour come out on stage, shave his lady.
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B
Yeah, sure.
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A
Okay. Do that. The whole thing. We saw him. Happy Gilmore. Nail it. Yeah, absolutely. Nail it. Obviously, we've seen Patrick Mahomes do some commercials and we've seen him out there kind of doing it his thing. You saw him do a little thespian for the fake.
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B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
Ah, like run it.
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F
Going for it on their own 40.
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On 4th and a foot.
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A
Tried to draw him offside.
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F
Sorry.
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A
Mom says coach, it doesn't.
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D
Oh, there they go.
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He was faking it. He was faking it. Holy hell, bro. That's genius. I love everything about it. A couple of the linebackers look like they weren't falling for it, but just all you need is one D lineman just be like, oh, yeah, we aren't falling for it, brother. Whoa. Shit. We're out of nowhere. Love the fake spike. Anytime anybody does it. And I guess we're gonna, you know, anytime Patty Showtime. Mahomes starts putting on a Broadway act in the middle of a show, I'm gonna buy because I think he sold it pretty good.
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E
I mean, he fooled what Tony Romo played with 15 years in league. He fooled the hell out of Tony. Now, I'm sure a lot of people. People probably hated that from Tony, but I loved it. I Think it actually, I think it made it better. Look, think about Tony. You feel like he's excited watching the game, so I can appreciate that from him. And we know we've seen Patrick Mahomes. You, you, you never know what to expect with this bunch. Whether it's spinning around in a huddle in the red area or something. They always got something up their sleeve. So this was. And it's the Raiders.
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C
Shit.
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E
Why not go for it?
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Yeah. I mean it's only seven nothing at that point. Little did they know that that would be the Raiders final score. And Pete Carroll, I don't know if he's loving necessarily coming back into coaching to be the Raiders. And what's that conversation later? We'll certain shefter here in a matter of moments. And number one headline I'll let you guys read at home with your eyes. First cold screw in the Super Bowl. I mean, it's so cool. They're finally going to play somebody that's good. Beat the Broncos. Okay, just, just so we all kind of make this argument kind of disappear quickly. Chargers aren't going to let them just do that. Danny Dime's going to fight. Yeah, right. We're better. Everybody should. We're literally better than everybody. And we got 390 pounders deflecting balls and catching it. This guy cooks wings in his sink. And he's doing this to your favorite quarterback. Give me that. Bats it up in the sky, pushes a guy off him. Let me find that thing. Fingers and wrist tape. Then our entire team joins him. Everybody that is in LA from Indianapolis hits the field and celebrates with him. But whenever things like that are happening, you know, good, good. Juju's on our side. And then you think about the story. Grover Stewart was actually one who brought the guitar. So they've been bringing a guitar for Jim Mercy. It's one of his guitars for the boss. Bring it in. I don't know if it's player of the week person that gives a speech. I'm not 100 sure how it goes to who it goes, but obviously bring the guitar. You got to get the pick. So now every person that is defense that brings in a guitar, we're expecting the same thing. Grover Stewart's not supposed to get picks. Brought guitar needs one so he can shred that thing. This team's real deal, brother. They are for real. All three phases too. Badgley goes back. He was kicker for the Chargers. Makes a couple big ones. Rigoberto Sancho was called on a couple times. He makes it the defense humming all over the place, and we just got Kenny Mo back. Okay. So the fact that he's getting his feet back under him for the run. The Colts might be starting out too hot, but also we might be nowhere near our peak yet either. I mean, there's so many different things and angles to kind of discuss about it. How do you feel about the team and what do you think about our upside still? I feel like we're still only learning more about ourselves.
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E
Yeah. I expect at this point for us to be kind of figuring and finding ourselves hopefully being like around 500 maybe, in the battle for the AFC South. So to be sitting here going into what, week eight, week nine now, and you're the top of the league, like, we're the class of the division. When you look at obviously, the AFC south and the whole conference of the AFC and you talk about it, when you watch this team play, it's not like gimmicky shit or they got an offense that, hey, defense haven't quite figured out yet. Or defense, like, you're just seeing sound fundamental football in all three phases. Regardless of the injuries, we've been pretty healthy in offense, but a ton of injuries on defense. Danny Dimes, like, I. It's unbelievable. They was hot in this quarterback in New York for those years. Like, I feel terrible for all these quarterbacks that will. And we'll never see.
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D
Some of us.
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E
I mean, I didn't know. Most of us didn't know. We remember the. The poll.
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D
We watched the Vikings playoff game.
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E
Yeah, I'm sure. I'm sure you were in the minority with those reports. You were very optimistic. Let's not look back at it. Yeah.
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But let's talk about now.
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Man, he spit it. Shane Stichen, unbelievable. It's a big win for him, too, against one of his former teams. You talked about Big Grove and just that what you saw with the sideline, like, I talked about it weeks ago with the. I think it was the Eagles at the time. But, like, when you see those type of vibes, like, that's the type of. That just comes through the screen.
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F
We, we.
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E
You can tell what's going on in the building Monday through Saturday. When you see like this with the. I don't think I've ever seen this many people run off the sideline on the NFL. NFL game. This game is nowhere near over. This is middle of the second quarter. It's not like fourth quarter game, ceiling interception. So the vibes are immaculate right now with the Colts long season ahead. But from everything that I'm seeing and that we're seeing, it looks like they're going to only continue to get better.
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Last step before we bring in a man to correct us or give us more depth on every conversation we've had. Daniel Jones is responding to pressure better than any QB we've ever tracked, says Hembo. His 91.8 QBR when pressure would be the highest in a season in the history of the metric. The previous record was Josh Allen's 83.5 in 2024 last year. That was an MVP season. For context, the league has average verse pressure is 27.8. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is a guy who I think to just say, hand the MVP trophy to Danny Dimes now. Senior NFL Insider for ESPN Michigan man Adam Schefter, first 15, 39 minutes in at this point. We appreciate you joining us. Anything that you saw us talk about that we missed there or needs to be mentioned.
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G
Jonathan Taylor's had a good, pretty good hand in succeeding where Danny Dimes has. And Danny Dimes, you know what's amazing is the Colts are under a lot of pressure, a lot of heat, and they haven't added that much. They added a quarterback and they added a tight end. Right. That's basically what they did. Tyler Warren, Daniel Jones and those two guys have turned that team into a dominant outfit. And a lot of people said they hadn't beaten anybody early on. Okay, fine, they went into LA and yes, that Charger team was beat up, but they beat up the that team. You don't see an offense run up points the way that the Colts are doing. And what's amazing to me also is they're very rarely in third down. Like they're getting everything on first, second down. They've been incredible to watch and they are right now as good as about any team in football outside, with all due respect, maybe the Kansas City Chiefs.
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A
Okay, well, obviously Kansas City Chiefs, we just did an entire thing about what Patrick Mahomes looks like right now and how they're potentially only getting better. I, I think we as the Indianapolis Colts. I'm not going to say we. I'll say as the fan fan of the Indianapolis Colts. I won't speak for that locker room. We'd like to play the Chiefs right now. Okay. Now I think in a few weeks. I think in a few weeks this Chiefs team might continue to kind of do a thing. But so are we.
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F
So are we.
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A
I think we would not be scared of the smoke. And then Tampa Bay obviously is thinking the same Thing down there in Tampa. We'll watch them tonight. Obviously, you'll give us some more intel on the two games this evening. Let's go to Birmingham, Utah. Bahama, come on, pretty mama.
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G
Baby.
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A
Why don't we go to Coco? You know what? We'll get there faster. Then we'll take it slow. That's where we wanna go. Way down in Coco. Let's talk about the benchmark boys. Okay? Not the Beach Boys. Let's talk about Tua, Gino and Justin Fields. Obviously not a super positive thing to chitchat about, but the benched boys is how we'll refer to them. What should we be expecting for their stories going forward? And is this just because the team look like trash on this particular day? Let's go ahead and scrap off and move forward.
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G
I mean, I can't believe all the things that are going on in the league in that giant Broncos game. We're going to go to the bench boys, but. Okay, okay. Like you want to go there.
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A
You missed the first 30 minutes. You missed the first 30 minutes. We already hit that. Yeah, we already hit that. But you have the updates that we don't have. Tua and the Miami Dolphins, obviously, interesting situation. Geno and the Raiders, Pete Carroll and the Raiders. And then Justin Fields. Aaron Glenn came out and said every situation is still going to be moderated. We're early in the week. Feels like those are pretty big stories with three big. Pretty big names there.
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G
Yeah. Listen, Aaron Glenn is leaning on the advice of other people, as he mentioned during the press conference. Wants to talk to some other coaches around the league. I would imagine that means he'll be talking to Bill Parcells this week, maybe Sean Payton, get some input on what he should and shouldn't be doing at quarterback. I think when you're talking like that, I think it's hard to go back to the initial guy. So it wouldn't surprise me if they go to Rod Taylor here, but that'll be a decision that Aaron Glenn has to make here. Tua Tungavailoa has struggled. It's not like they're going to turn to Quinn Ewers. I don't think this early in the year they're going to keep broadening. Tua right now, he'll be the guy. He's thrown a lot of interceptions. They've played bad football. You know, I know a lot of people thought that by this time the Dolphins would have wholesale changes today. It's not happening. They. They. They've been wanting to hold off on this for as Long as they possibly can. I think we all recognize what's ahead in Miami, that there could be significant changes that come. They don't seem to be coming anytime soon, but obviously when you play the way they have and lose the way that they are. I had one Dolphins fan text me yesterday that this is one of the lowest points in franchise history. There's going to be changes and we know that there'll be changes. We just don't know how soon they'll come. But I'm not expecting any changes this week. The Raiders are on a bye week. They're going to have to sit down and evaluate everything. Their backup quarterbacks, Kenny Pickett, I guess they could try that for a spark. You know the problem? Yesterday they ran 30 plays, 30 total plays, all game. If you look at it, I think that was like the lowest number of play. I have it in my phone. It's like the lowest number. Yeah, there it is. Okay. Lowest amount of plays since at least 2002. I have some. Yeah, I mean, just. You're not going to win that way. And it was a bad performance. They have not played well offensively. They should get Brock Bowers back after the buy. That'll help. They didn't have Jacoby Myers, like, who's Geno throwing the football to yesterday? It's a tough thing.
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A
Yeah, it's a tough thing. Injury is also a tough thing in the NFL storyline. We know you don't love that. That is a part of your gig, but it's real. The quarterback position. Now you have Jacoby playing for Kyler. You have Carson playing for jj. Then we got a couple more seemingly yesterday. Go ahead, debuff.
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E
Yeah, Carolina got another win yesterday, but Bryce Young went down late in that game. And then also Jaden Daniels went down in his game as well. Any updates there for those two quarterbacks?
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G
Bryce Young won't play this week. He'll be out. He's dealing with a sprained ankle. And as for Jaden Daniels or Bryce Young, here's the play. He hobbled to the locker room after he went down, down here gingerly, didn't come back in the game. Andy Dalton came on and Andy Dalton will wind up starting for Bryce Young this week. Jaden Daniels also went to the blue medical tent, hobbled. People weren't exactly sure what it initially was. It turned to be his hamstring. Look, we've seen what this is before. Whereas Lamar Jackson had a hamstring injury. Now, who knows if they're the same grade? We don't know what grade Lamars was, but he missed two weeks. They have the bye, and I think the Ravens feel like they'll get him back. Jaden Daniels hobbles off the field, doesn't come back in the game. I think it would be safe to say right now that it would be a surprise if he's playing a week from today against the Kansas City Chiefs on Monday Night Football. And the Commanders are about to embark upon really, like, the teeth of their schedule. They play the Cheetah Chiefs, the Seahawks, the Lions. I think that it's fair to think that Jaden Daniels is going to miss some of those games. At the very least. At the very least, with a hamstring injury like that. Here's a guy that makes his living with his legs, with his arm. And again, I think it'd be a surprise if he's back next week.
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A
That sucks for all of us. Mark Smariota, though, has already gotten some time. Obviously, we'll see how that goes for Monday Night Football. Two guys that I mentioned there early. And we got a chance to experience the Carson Wentz experience yesterday. And also, you know what's going on out there in Phoenix. Go ahead, Tone.
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D
Yeah, we did get to experience that. And JJ was limited in practice this week, so it wasn't a surprise that Carson was starting this week. But what about going Forward?
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C
Is.
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D
Is JJ McCarthy the starter when Carson Wentz or, sorry, is JJ McCarthy the starter when he is healthy? And then he pat talked about out in Phoenix, is Kyler the starter when he comes back as well?
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G
My understanding is with Carson Wentz and J.J. the Vikings play a short week this week. They had the Chargers Thursday night. I would expect that we get Carson Wentz on Saturday night.
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A
Yes.
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G
And. And I. I was told there's a chance that JJ McCarthy will be ready for the week after At Detroit. At Detroit. So again, I think if Carson Wentz comes back and plays well, they win the game Thursday night, maybe that buys JJ another week. If not. If not, then I think JJ could be back as soon as that week at the truck. Now, Kyler Murray, they're on a buy this week. My understanding all along has been that he will be back for Monday Night Football two weeks from tonight at Dallas. Kyler's from that area. He's not going to miss a game in Jerry's world against the Cowboys. So you could expect to see Kyler back two weeks from tonight.
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A
Okay, so Kyler's back in Jerry world. I think he has a pretty good record through high school and everything like that. And Then Jacoby Brissette will continue to speak, spinning for them. And then Carson Wentz on Thursday night against the Chargers. Is that what you said?
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G
That, that. That. That's what I would think, that. That. That would be my expectation right now.
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A
That's been the problem with these 9:30am Sunday games. We had a taste of Carson Wentz Football at 9:30am we had a taste of the Carson Wentz Experience at 9:30am and we thought to ourselves, this is the greatest way to start a day. Did you see him yesterday? We are in full Carson, Carson Wentz experience time right now with the Minnesota Vikings. Kevin o' Connell can say what he wants, but when a guy can do that, drop it on dime. Jordan Addison in the corner, you're allowed to do whatever you want. He'll do this every once in a while. That's an easy one. I'll miss it. Okay. Just because it's better for you. And then, oh, shit, it's going to get snapped over my head. Obviously not his fault, but he'll make the play great. You know, he's going to get on that play. He's been in that position before. And every once in a while he's going to take a huge shot, just throw it to the other team. That's not his fault. No massive shot quarterback's to do that. They obviously crib that thing, so that's a little bit of a different story. And Carson Wentz will get a little handsy. Yep. Let me throw it backwards real quick. Out of bounds. This. This is the Carson Wentz experience we were talking about. Anything could happen on any play, including this cross body hock. That thing. To who? Somebody like a punt. It's a punt. Don't worry about it. Carson Wentz says. And then whenever you talk about evading and escaping and dropping, he does that on the other side. Side of it. That is the Carson Wentz experience. And as the game got later, Carson only got better. Feels like the Eagles were only getting more scared. Little underhanded stuff. How you doing, T.J. hawkinson. Why don't you get it out there? And then every once in a while there'll be a little bit of chaos. Let me throw it right into the ground here. Who's around me? Nobody. That's obviously an intentional grounding. Yeah, that'll be a stack there. So there's just a never ending of whoa, whoa. He's like the Michigan Wolverine football team, but on every single play. It literally could be the greatest play or it could be the worst play at Any given given moment. And that's Carson Wentz experience that's coming on Thursday night. Consider me in. Amazon needs to be thanking their lucky stars that Carson Wentz is playing prime time on yes. Yeah, we got Harbaugh talking Jim Harbaugh stories and features happening. And then we got Carson Wentz playing ball. Holy sh. This is the mega ball.
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B
Yeah, it is.
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A
This is the. They need to have a human wrestle a bear at halftime. Spamoni. They need that out there. Herbert's there. All right. Anyways, sorry. We had to get that in. Had to get the Carson Wentz experience. That's the only reason we asked that whole question.
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B
Chef, he gets it.
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A
So, Chef, we appreciate you alley ooping us for that.
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G
That was quite an array of highlights. Of course, I did not expect to get the full course experience when I popped on here, but we did. That was the full experience, dude.
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A
We got to experience it as Colts fans. It's the greatest and the worst. But that's the car.
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B
Exactly. That's part of the beauty.
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A
All right, Ty has a question for you.
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B
Chef Shetty, you said. Said that you thought the trade deadline would be pretty active this year after yesterday. And the Raiders just get absolutely embarrassed. And I know we do this every single year because the Raiders kind of suck around this time. Every single year. Is there any chance that Max Crosby is potentially going to get traded? A couple teams out there, you know, Colts could maybe use a D end. Is there any chance that the. The Raiders will even entertain that, or is it just going to be. No.
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G
Ty, they haven't done that in the past. I wouldn't imagine that they would do it now. Especially considering that when Pete Carroll comes back as the oldest coach in NFL history, he's not coming back to rebuild a team in stockpile picks. Pete Carroll is coming back to compete. And obviously they've run into some hard times here and they're not winning and they're not playing overly well. But I can't imagine that Pete Carroll is going to be on board with trading a game changing defensive guy. And if and when the day ever were to come that Max Crosby were traded, I think it would have to be coming from Max Crosby going in there and saying, guys, I can't take it anymore. I want to be traded. And they just paid him in the off season. They just gave him a new contract. So it's hard. You can't get everything in life like, you can't be treated like the face of the franchise as he's been deservedly so, because he's an incredible player. You can't be rewarded and paid in the off season. You can't turn around and say, well, I know, I know we've sucked in the first seven games that I want to be traded now. Like, it doesn't work like that. So I never rule out anything in this league. Anything's always possible. We'll see how it shakes out. But to me, I think he's staying in Vegas.
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A
I don't think Max Crosby's ever wanted to be traded. Max Crosby gets very pissed off at us and others whenever it even comes up on our conversation because you know Raider through and through. But we would like to let Max Crosby. Now we got to see you play live in person against the Colts. It'd be really cool to watch you play in big games.
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B
Yeah. Just want to see him.
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E
Yeah.
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A
It would be playoffs. It'd be so cool. He's a Raider. I get it. I understand they took a shot on you. You're very loyal. We all respect that. We respect out of Max Crosby very big fans. Such big fans. Would be really cool to watch him go through a playoff run. Just takeover games too.
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E
Yeah.
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A
Imagine the world getting to see him at Super Bowl. Max, think about the game. Game, brother. Think about the game.
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B
Exactly.
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A
Super Bowl. You got people that are watching only one game a year. They don't even know what American football is. And what do they see? This super tatted white dude off the edge who never stops.
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C
Yeah.
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A
And just full menace the whole time. Might open this game up to another 100 million people.
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C
Heyman, Buckner.
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A
Oh, come on, Mad Max, we need you now. On that note, the fact that you're so loyal and respect and all that stuff is part of the reason why.
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B
You are the person that was very cool.
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A
Yeah. We get it. But he gets mad at us anytime it's mentioned. We. You'd like that to be.
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D
I was gonna say, would Trey Hendrickson be more likely because of his relationship with Lou Anarumo. Anarumo. But did the Thursday night win kind of put that on halt. Shefty. Potentially.
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G
Lou Anarumo and Trey.
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D
Is Trey Henderson. Was he ever on the block because he's on a one year deal. Basically he'd be a good rental in the Colts relationship with Lou Anarumo or. And did the Thursday night win kind of put things on hold there? If he ever was on the block.
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G
I mean, I don't know. It was on hold. Like they're trying to get back in this. They traded for Joe Flacco. They Won a game. If they lose the next two games leading up to the trade deadline, could that change things?
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C
Sure.
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G
But I don't think the Bengals are looking to give away Trey Hendrickson. And I don't think Trey is thinking about or entertaining the idea that he's going to be leaving right now. Like, he, you know, we exchanged a couple of texts last week. He had no idea what was going like, and nothing along those lines of him being traded. And again, in this league, anything's always possible. We'll see how it shakes out. But I think the Bengals are focused on trying to turn around their season before the trade deadline. Coming off a big win Thursday night.
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A
Against the Steelers, the NFL, anything is possible, including people calling in from a different state. Go ahead, D. Butch.
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E
Yeah. What the hell is this about? Shefty, like we saw with Jared Goff with the shift. And they called back the touchdown. They said it came from New York and then just. Just remembered it. We were talking about Team TJ Hawkinson. That touchdown he had. Diving touchdown. It was called a touchdown. Then it was overview reviewed and he said he didn't get any confirmation from the referees on the field that they saw anything to overturn it, but it came from New York. What's going on with the NFL and them coming in from New York, changing calls and the refs on the field not really doing it well, you know.
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G
That'S always been the case. The league has always been able to watch these games and weigh in with their opinion. I think that was part of the change in the off season rules in the way they approach us, that New York office will always be involved in these kinds of things. So I think when officials are huddling, the eye in the sky, the eyes in New York are always watching as well. And I think everybody's trying to come together to come up with the best opinion, the right call on any of these situations, whether it's coming from on the field, in the booth in New York, wherever it may be. So I think New York has always kind of been watching things. They. They've got their eyes on all games at all times.
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A
Oh, yeah.
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G
And I think they've always been able to weigh in with their opinion.
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A
And all people, they're watching this right now.
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B
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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G
I might get a. I might get a text about it. Like, here, here's the deal. Like, they know the people know who they are. Like, give me the update. What do you have to say about that?
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A
And those people. Let's be good. Okay. If you're gonna have that type of power. Let's make sure we're good at it. I appreciate the fact that they're giving their opinion. Opinion. Let's give facts. Let's give facts. Okay. Let's make sure we're doing that. Especially if we all kind of understood that New York was doing that and then they're lying about it.
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H
Yeah.
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E
If the refs on the field, three refs on the field tell you like, hey, we saw it this way, we got it. But hey, like that's, that's a big.
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A
Move by the refs though.
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E
True.
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A
That's like the refs maybe trying to put themselves over in the moment as opposed in burying New York. That's not good.
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B
No.
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A
You should get everybody on a set, same page. Hey New York, if you're going to be giving your opinion, we think this is a good game also. That's not a catch. Let's make sure all the other refs just buy in and go, hey, New York said that's the case as opposed to I would have gave it to you.
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C
Hey, man, stop.
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A
That's a tough look.
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E
Or do what ACC does.
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A
Wide open.
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E
That's the best.
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A
Let us hear it tonight. We got one minute. We wasted a lot of your time. Chef, we are so sorry. What do we need to look at for tonight? Injuries wise. Detroit Lions secondary banged up. Bad injury. Brian Branch out. Right. That's big story.
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G
Yeah. It's obviously a huge deal. The fact no Avanti Maddox, no Kirby Joseph, no Terry and Arnold. Brian Branch suspended. So you're talking about basically essentially a starting secondary wiped out due to injury or suspension. The Buccaneers wide receivers, no Chris Godwin. I think Mike Evans is going to wind up playing and I think, I think to the surprise of many, Emeka Abuka has a real chance to play tonight. They're going to take test him pregame to make a final determination but as I was told over the weekend, I think it was trending towards him playing and they'll obviously see how he feels pregame before signing off. But I think there's a real chance he's going to be out there tonight.
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A
Five seconds. Texan Seahawks anything?
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G
Seahawks have a couple of defensive backs who are questionable. Julian Love, Devin Witherspoon. I think it'd be a surprise if either played.
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A
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H
Hey fans.
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A
Welcome back to Fansville's cheers and tears. Okay, so like everybody deals with losing, right? To a rival and a last second field goal, whatever.
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B
It's fine.
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A
I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice cold Dr. Pepper. Mmm, those 23 flavors are like so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of your college football team taking a big fat L. College football. It's a Pepper thing. Football, man. I'm gonna send program because I just couldn't wait to get started as if it was first time we're getting on the microphones after that incredibly electrifying weekend of ball. With two more games, tonight is a doubleheader for Monday Night Football has seemingly become like the thing now. Yeah, ESPN obviously only has Monday Night Football normally getting a second game on Monday night's time slot. Certainly cool. 10pm Eastern. ESPN, Texas and Seahawks. For those of you that might not be able to fall asleep or if you fall asleep during the first game and wake up late and say what happened at first? Oh, there's another game on. You might be able to catch something until about 1 2am with the Texans and the Seahawks. Remember Seahawks? Sam Darnold and boys are talented. Texans been on a little bit of a run here though. Obviously they've been counted out, ruled out early, but C.J. stroud and Texans kind of find their way. And then Bucks and Lions. You got two teams that might represent the NFC in the super bowl there. Tampa Bay Buccaneers had a lot of injuries throughout this entire season. Baker Mayfield has throttled himself right into MVP conversations. And then Jared Goff, they were calling him Jared Guflovski. They were earlier in the year whenever they weren't doing anything cool or dynamic. And then all of a sudden they're all the way back to who they were last year. Very banged up in the secondary. Did I hear five members of the secondary or at least out or hurt? At this moment, four guys are out. No Brian Branch, no Kirby Joseph. Those are our starting safeties. No Terrion Arnold, no DJ Reed. Those are our starting corners against Baker Mayfield who is slinging the pill everywhere. That's a little worrisome with potential Mike Evans and a Mecca Becca Emeka Abuka back tonight. Easy for everybody to say including Gronk and myself. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. Butler is here. D Bucks this is what the Lions had last year. The Lions, I mean they now they got four guys including three guys and a suspension. But they got the defensive injury buck bad last year and it completely stalled what they were going to have still ended up the number one seed in the nfc. Oh yeah, but weren't the super bowl team that we thought is it going to happen to them again?
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E
I mean those names is hard to go into a game and competing especially against an MVP caliber quarterback with none of your starters in the secondary up there. But I mean we saw the 49ers kind of do it with what Salah did with his defense. And you still have Hutch who's been a game wrecker and Muhammad on the other side and who's been an absolute dog as well. So I got faith in Kelvin shepherd to make this a Good game to D.C. for the Lions. But you talked about the slate and the back to back starts. I know I'm probably in the minority here. I prefer the 7 and the 10, 10 o' clock starts when there are two games that should be potentially good games like these are four good teams. You got three quarterbacks that can honestly at the end of the season be in the MVP conversation with how they're playing playing tonight. So I'll be up for this one for sure.
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A
All right. Well, I can't wait to hear about it. That second one's going to be tough for me to make it, but I'll watch it in the morning. But maybe I stick up for it because I'm such a big fan of that Houston Texans team. That's real. They've been very good to us. The Houston Texans have been very, very good to us. It's been tough since that first year. C.J. stroud really get rolling. Maybe tonight's a night where they let the world or remind the world that or at least the west coast that's watching that we are a for real and maybe, maybe The Seahawks continue to go when nobody talks about them. They're a bandwagon as well that everybody could potentially hop on after everybody potentially hopped off last year with new head coach kicking Pete Carroll out.
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E
Building.
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A
Kick this guy out of the building wild painted over the walls. Well, Legion of Boom's back, by the way, doing a video game thing. Oh, yeah, that's right. The Legion of Boom. It's great.
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B
Love the Legion of Boom talks.
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A
Tables here have boss Connor and that's I, Schmidt. One half of the hammer done. Cowboys AP Tone is here. Tone. Public one. We need to feel good.
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D
Yes, they did. They were 5 and 4 this weekend on teams that were getting 60% or more of the bets. Also teams that were getting mid-50s. Bengals, Chiefs and Cowboys all won and covered as well. It was a good weekend for the public.
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A
It was great weekend for this man we're about to bring in as well. He's college football national champion, super bowl champion, R Cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. AJ Hog. How you doing, dude?
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F
I. I do not remember all my picks. I have no clue what my record may be, but I feel like I won something.
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A
Yeah, you got the Hawkeye on the board right now, brother. You're FL high. Nine and four after an incredible Sunday slate for AJ Hawk. Now, there was a couple that we decided that we could have maybe just ruled out. Both of us could have just ruled.
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F
Out there, but I picked the Raiders, man. Are you kidding me? 31 nothing was it? Is that right? They were down the ball with like four minutes to go and I picked the Raiders.
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A
Yeah. You know, down above before the two minute warning is certainly something. That. That is certainly something. Yeah. Jacksonville Jaguars, I took them. So that was fun. Morning. You know, just kind of watching them never get started. I went 8 and 5. You went 9 and 4 tonight. Obviously. Two games. I'll be excited to see who you pick and how you pick them. College, another big weekend. You know, I'll tell you what, when. When the games that we're at, when I get those ones right, those feel really good, you know, because there's a lot of people that tell me I'm just pandering to the crowd or if I sit up there and I tell these people to go to hell, I would like it to be for good reason.
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E
Sure.
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A
You know, I'd like that to be the case. I got Connor bet alongside me a little bit.
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E
Oh, yeah.
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C
Basically all of them. The only three I posted were just the ones that I did after the fact. You know, after you made all These. These six were money in. The best part about these was like, man, but I do like Ole Miss. No, I have no idea what the hell I'm doing. Byu, same thing. I was like, well, I like Utah, though. Utah's cool. Nope, just shut up. Listen to what Pat's saying, because he actually knows what he's talking about.
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A
About.
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C
And then the last one, the alternate spread, that was the one where it was like, okay, had a great day early. Had the, you know, the. The 17 or the 16 money line 1 going. And I was like, I mean, everybody, you know, is basically saying, these guys should do well. You mentioned, hey, massive bounce back for South Florida is a college football playoff team. So I was like, you know what? Screw it. Maybe they'll both just blow them out. Especially because South Florida was a South Florida bowl. It was against fau. So I kind of thought there might be a little extra juice there. So thank you very much.
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A
No, hey, we got to enjoy these times because this gets. Swing the other way. Certainly swing the other way. Especially with the way the college football has been going this year. AJ I don't know if you saw this stat. I tweeted. We read in the first hour from ESPN research, top 10 teams have lost 18 times this season, the most through eight weeks of a season since 2007. I mean, you're talking about insanely, four of them lost this past week, weekend. And Coach Braum, all of a sudden, you know, not only running old clips of him whenever he's saying, am I dead? No, let's play football. Basically, as an actual quarterback in the league at the time, but his team every year. Two years ago is North Notre Dame. Last year was Clemson. This year it's Miami on Friday night. As everybody is watching along, and this guy there's calling him Adrian Peterson as a wide receiver. Braum's name might be rich, real hot in some spots because of what he's been able to accomplish at Louisville, but you got to remember, he's in a ring of honor down there. He's a Hall of Famer down there. Louisville.
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G
Yep.
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D
Went and played at Louisville. Obviously had a great career coaching at Purdue. For as far as coaching at Purdue goes, he had upsets against Ohio State. Top five upsets there as well. Then goes, here he is a cor. He's a coach that wins the big games. He's also a coach that believe Louisville has the. The most consecutive 24 point where they have scored at least 24 points in the nation. So they score as well. So when you score and when you win big games, that is a recipe to be wanted by a lot of.
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A
Pretty desired couple of traits that a coach would have. Spots are opening up, AJ Spots are opening up around college ball. Who's going to coach all these teams?
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F
Yeah, where are they going to find. I mean, we're going to see, you think we're going to see anybody jump from the NFL back to college? I don't know, maybe an NFL coordinator takes a head gig somewhere.
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A
Maybe, I don't know, like mentor, for instance, out there at the Chargers. He had obviously a massive amount of success whenever he was at Michigan, but also he might get an NFL opportunity. And there's like so many different ways to look at it. Chip Kelly, he obviously Ohio coordinator, gets the NFL as fast as he possibly can. Now he's at the Raiders. This stinks. Maybe I go back to calling some plays and running a college thing. The new AP Top 25 is out. The Ohio State Buckeye still at number one. No real conversation or chatter about it either. AJ just kind of ho hum. The Ohio State Buckeyes are better than they were last year at this point and they're undefeated and they're the number one team in the country. What do people not know about the Ohio State Buckeyes? A.J.
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F
Hawk, man, I think, I mean, I don't know, maybe I just live in the bubble here. I, I hear like, I watch with my eyes. But their defense under Matty Patricia is awesome. I mean they lose so many guys and they just reload and have dudes that are absolute freak athletes that run all over and make plays. So their defense is something people are taking, talking about. But I think Julian Saint is, is awesome. I really do. I don't think, I think he kind of flies under the radar maybe because he's not 6 foot 5 and the big pocket passer, but the dude is athletic with a crazy quick release throw into great receivers. I get it. But yeah, Buckeyes are doing what they should do right now.
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A
Yeah, he's spinning it, obviously. Next game, November 1st against Penn State. After you guys shut out Wisconsin, I was asked on game day, hey, how many points does Wisconsin score today against this Ohio State State team? And I'd known that they, I didn't know if it was 17 or 16 in the time when I was speaking, but I knew they let Illinois score some points late and I could just tell how pissed everybody was on the defensive side. Like, hey, we have a chance to do something special here at Ohio State. We're giving up five points A game. And you guys are gonna let Illinois score 16 against us? Yeah, right. I thought Wisconsin had a rough day coming and they did. They closed the door on them completely. 34 nothing. Penn State coming up now. Penn State loses a barn burner.
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B
They may have found their new head coach, Terry Smith. Terry Smith had boys playing. They played hard. They did. But yeah, that was barn burner. Is, is certainly one way of putting it, but that was. Man, that might have been Iowa's best victory in the last 10 years.
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A
I haven't, I didn't get to see the entire game, only the highlights. Who was making what decisions. How did we get to where it was 33. What was his final score?
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B
It was 25, 24. But I mean in the third quarter Iowa was down 2110, which typically for Iowa like you might, they might as well been down 50. They, they just do not come back from 11 like 11 point deficits. And Mark Konowski, I tell you what, he only threw for about 68 yards but he rushed for 140. Put the team. I had multiple 50 plus yard runs, two touchdowns. I mean it was, it was amazing.
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A
It was just once I was record.
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B
Now they are 5 and 2.
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A
What are they gonna end up?
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B
I, I tell you what, I'm not so sure. Oregon doesn't have another thing coming when they have to come play at Kinnick at night. I think it, I mean it's fun because I get to do this right now because I was this. I mean if Iowa loses that game, I say it. I'm not watching these guys the rest of the year. But so I, I got belief right now. I'm in the frame of mind that I was going to be ten and two and a couple things go their way and guess what? They are the, the last team that slides into the playoffs.
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A
Wow.
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B
That's, that's the, the head space you.
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A
Have to operate in.
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B
You know, as a Big Ten guy. That's kind of what you have to do. I mean, no, nobody wants to see Granowski one on one with the ball in his hand because he'll give you a little one and then, and then he's gone.
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A
Like, like we haven't seen him in sub freezing temperatures yet.
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B
Yeah. And that's when he thrives. That's when he thrives. It was a little chilly on Saturday night, but not, not like it's going to get where.
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A
What's on going. What did he go to?
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B
South Dakota.
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A
Okay, so South Dakota State I believe is hosting North Dakota State this weekend. I believe it is. Or maybe it's in North Dakota State. That was a potential game day opportunity this weekend and I know a lot of people were hoping that we would go to that game. I'd like to let everybody know I had a chance to experience game. That was how I got on a game day was because Adam Venatori was the guest picker for South Dakota State. Obviously couldn't make it. So he sends me and replaces in 200919 and I go sleeveless hoodie up there. I get a chance to enjoy the entirety, do the thing. And that was like my first introduction to game day. Basically Kirk, Herb street kind of pieces that whole thing together which I'm very thankful for. And then obviously the next few years happen and then now I'm back full time for the past. I guess this is the fourth season now and it's like getting a chance to go to South Dakota State. That place will always go big. Go Blue. Go Jacks. I'm very thankful for that morning and everything that happened there. But that was six years ago. We were there now Vandy, it's been forever since going to Nash. Vanderbilt is hosting a game that is obviously a national conversation. So I think no, no losing on most weekends on where game day goes. I think we should have went to Utah BYU last weekend. I think that was a miss. I think I said that in real time too. Like hey, they would have shut down the whole state for us to go celebrate what that whole holy war was. And by the way, game was great. Yeah, great game, great game. BYU remains undefeated. But like heading out to Vandy, to Nashville. First time, long time, great city. I think they're all behind a football team and then Mizzou obviously. When was the last time they did a game day for a Mizzou game? I'm not sure. Everybody's just attacking another SEC game. It's like this is a different.
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F
I guess they're going to be juice down there. Nashville is going to be Rowdy for sure. I think also having Diego as a quarterback that brings even more juice to game day, to everything. The athletes atmosphere.
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A
It's.
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F
Yeah, it makes sense to me.
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A
I hope so. But people, I think people are really pissed about the Georgia Ole Miss over.
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E
At least the game.
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A
It was great game, great game. Yeah. And also Kirby Smart was electrical.
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B
So. Yeah, so was Lane on Saturday.
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A
He was just. Was he just looking off into the trees? It looked like, you know, it was. He was, he was spectacular out there. The game, right? Was an incredible game. I. I can completely concur on that. Then I got to see a Luke Combs, Bailey Zimmerman concert and Jelly Roll.
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B
That's awesome.
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A
So after the show ended, Jelly Roll went up there and performed Liar with Bailey Zimmerman, Luke Combs, and Bailey obviously performed. I mean, I talked to James Franklin. Fresh off.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Firing coaches, vitamins, opportunity. I mean, it was.
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D
He's gonna get.
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E
It's a good interview, too. He did. Thought he did.
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A
Penn State people weren't happy with it, of course.
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E
Of course, yeah.
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C
Why?
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F
Why not?
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A
Well, they said this was a little bit of glaze in a James Franklin, don't we think? Now, if you look at all the graphics that are. While James Franklin was on.
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F
Yeah.
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A
There wasn't a lot of glazing happening there. I'm sitting next to James Franklin, and they're running the recap of the season. Okay. And Reese is like, go into the year, number one team in the country.
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F
Boom, boom, boom.
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A
Then you lose the Oregon at home in the whiteout. Then you go to ucla, lose. I'm sitting. James Franklin's right here. We're showing the low lights. Okay. And then at the bottom, you know, they're putting up all his records against everybody. And then the unthinkable happens. He's right here. Knee loser is to Northwestern at home. They show him getting booed out while he's walking with his family. And I'm like, oh, my God, this is a tough start. And on the screen, it's like, let's take a look at his records now. 100 some wins against top 10 teams. None of them. This guy's worst in the history ever against good teams. Okay. On a graphic now, ladies and gentlemen, joining us in an exclusive, James Frank. I'm like, jesus Christ.
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F
Did he see those graphics before the show?
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C
Yes.
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A
He was sitting. Before he went up there.
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F
Yeah. Before he know he hit that in real time. Like, wow, this is. Okay.
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A
So I didn't see him beforehand. I don't know if he had to approve him or got approved or he, like. I don't know. Tell the story. There's no way they asked for approval. Yeah. So that would never happen. But I don't know if he was shown him. But I'm sitting there looking at the same TV he's looking at. I'm like, that's pretty good view. He's got his glasses on, too. He definitely can see what those are saying. Jeez, that's a tough go. I thought he handled himself well.
- [73:52]
E
Yeah.
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A
I thought he took some accountability while also saying, like, I was blindsided. I was Surprised, because so locked in. You know, I appreciated him doing it. You know, just sitting in there. That had to be uncomfortable. It had to be awkward. And he's getting what, 43.9 million regardless of what happens next.
- [74:06]
C
Yeah. Or 49.9. Whatever it is.
- [74:09]
A
But, yeah, 50 million, whatever.
- [74:10]
C
Yeah. It's a ton of money.
- [74:11]
D
Can he double dip? I know Napier can double dip. I saw that.
- [74:14]
A
I think there is offset language. But he doesn't have to, like, I think it was being reported as, like, he has to try to get a coaching or media job with who his agent is. If that would have been the case, I. I would have switched. Certainly been pretty surprised by that. But I do think most of these guys that this particular agent represents, they only do one thing and that's like, yeah, I'm gonna go Jet Ski. No. And they're all. They're all Spend time with my fam. No.
- [74:41]
B
I coach football.
- [74:42]
A
No. Yeah.
- [74:42]
C
I have no hobbies.
- [74:43]
E
Got no hobbies. I don't fish. I don't golf.
- [74:45]
A
Yeah. It was a great answer by him. And also what I told him, I think is very real, too. Like, I think long term history will look back on James Franklin and say, like, hey, James did a good job. Like, I think even like Penn State people will say that. You know, in the moment, though, Penn State people are saying, I gave $20 million for this roster and we just lost the Northwestern at home. That Northwestern, I didn't even know they had enough people to put on a field. And they just. We lost to who I am. Alva don't care.
- [75:13]
D
Yeah.
- [75:15]
A
And then Oregon before that. That's how a lot of Penn Staters feel right now, especially with the records that they were putting up on the screen. But I think in the long term, people will look back to your point, though. This Penn State role now being open, boy, has that been good for everybody. That's potentially up for that job. Yeah.
- [75:31]
D
And now another big one.
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F
Huge.
- [75:32]
E
Florida. Florida probably be.
- [75:35]
D
That's a good job because of recruiting.
- [75:37]
E
Florida slightly. I know Penn State has the money, but I mean, Florida's got the money, the recruiting pipeline down in Florida, like sec.
- [75:49]
D
Those are two really good jobs.
- [75:50]
E
Great jobs.
- [75:51]
A
How many. How many candidates are there?
- [75:54]
D
Not enough.
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A
That's what. Yeah, that's.
- [75:56]
F
When is the first one hired? When is the first big gig filled? That's my question, too.
- [76:00]
A
Well, and when does the first big hire not just resign a deal at their own place for a mega deal?
- [76:06]
F
Great point.
- [76:06]
A
You know, like, when is that so good?
- [76:08]
F
The leverage is awesome. Every coach has. Every decent coach has great leverage when this stuff happens.
- [76:13]
A
Jimmy Sexton walks out there with Lane Kiffin on that field, just know that that man's phone is right there in his pocket. And if you want to talk about adding 5, 6, 7, 10 more million a year, I will certainly listen. I will certainly listen. The big deluxe, the big Cadillac, always working. I love that man. I enjoy him a lot. He's a phenomenal businessman. And the guys that he represents, though, just to go back to it all, super football people. And also here he is. Look at his ass going between. And I can work a deal here if you'd like. You know, that's a couple coaches down there. You got Kirby, whose name is going to be everywhere. He's damn good dog. Nobody would assume him to leave. Lane Kiffin, obviously his name's up for Florida every year, even when Napier was the head coach, let alone maybe Penn State. And what Lane has obviously become at this stage of his career versus what he was 10 years ago and how good his teams have been and listening to him give speeches and everything like that, it's like Lane's jobs up there and Jimmy's like. Like his name is up there, isn't is. On that note, I don't even want to have a conversation. I don't even have a conversation. I just. Can we. And then bang, the bang, the bang the bang. And then all of a sudden, if you're one of these schools that needs a job that's or needs a coach, it's like, well, who's all available here?
- [77:23]
E
Who is and who are the other. I mean, Lane, based on what he's posting pregame and how he's winning all this, it's going to be tough for him to leave Ole Miss. But who are like hot.
- [77:33]
D
There's like, you know, like an. A smaller school. And it's not surprising that they covered the alternate spread because Alex Golish is putting up a lot of points right now because, you know, a lot of people were saying he's putting at South Florida. He's putting up a lot of points to impress some bigger schools, especially in Florida, stuff like that. He's one of them. You got Matt Campbell, Iowa State, whose name's out there a lot, obviously every year.
- [77:55]
A
Right? His name's up kind of.
- [77:56]
D
Yeah, because he's done well. He's done great. Iowa State and Iowa State's great, a great school. But they're. They're not the recruiting fan base that in that Penn State or Florida and stuff like that has. There's, you know, Manny Diaz at Duke, stuff like that.
- [78:08]
A
You talk about Braum as well Louisville, like Con. Was it you? I believe that said his name. He's a Louisville hero. If anybody is a school's hero that is currently their coach, it's definitely Brahm at Louisville. But a lot of schools with a lot of opportunity opening up that don't have a lot of names and it's like Braum, mom's name. What do we want to do? We want to do. We want to beat the good teams and we want to put up points. We want to be fun and we want a dog here. Yeah.
- [78:35]
D
Oh, and develop quarterbacks.
- [78:36]
A
Ex quarterback and his brother's quarterback. And I think his father's a quarterback and his father's father's court. It's like he is probably quickly to a lot of places, especially after what he did Friday night.
- [78:45]
B
Yeah, I would assume so. And I've seen more and more. A lot of people are really trying to connect like the actually Elko to Penn State. Makes a lot of sense. Like that seems weird Jersey. Yeah. Jersey guy, Northeast ties. But like.
- [78:57]
A
Like with how A and m paid what, 70 million?
- [78:59]
B
That's what I mean. If. If A and M wants to keep him, they can keep him. So like, that is very interesting because even like the rule stuff now that kind of. That is cooled off a little bit after he got PJ Flecked on Friday night.
- [79:11]
A
Yeah, PJ Fleck will get somebody. Golf.
- [79:14]
F
Yeah, man.
- [79:16]
A
PJ Fleck is a round of golf. There's going to be a couple good shots. They're going to be like, y. This guy's got it.
- [79:22]
B
Yep.
- [79:22]
A
But will he ever at Minnesota be able to.
- [79:25]
B
No, but that was the road. The boat game. You knew it was coming.
- [79:27]
D
Wonder if he's a guy.
- [79:28]
F
Is he has PJ candidate to get bumped up to one of these big gigs or bigger?
- [79:31]
D
Definitely.
- [79:32]
A
Hey, we can golf a lot better. You give me clubs.
- [79:36]
D
Hit these wooden irons.
- [79:37]
A
A little bit more opportunity here. Maybe we'll be able to do that. He obviously loves Minnesota. I mentioned John Gruden's name on game day. It's like, hey, who's Penn State's next head coach? I mean, why not John Groot? Just let him get out there. Well, do they want somebody that's Z that old? It's like you think Gruden feels old when he's talking about ball? Yeah, I don't think so. You Signetti was 60. What did what he's same age Gruden Same age as Him, 62. Gruden also has ties back to the Hoosiers and his dad, obviously.
- [80:05]
F
Offensive guy can play exciting football, exciting brand of football and offense especially. Yeah, Gruden has it all.
- [80:10]
A
And a bit of a dog. Yeah, a bit of a dog and energy and everything like that. Should not email. Talks about that.
- [80:18]
B
Probably not.
- [80:19]
A
Should not email. You know, should not email. All right, let's talk a little bit of NFL. Thank you to college ball, though. Oh, yeah, thank you, college. It's been outstanding. And congrats to Arizona State. Dillingham's name is probably on a lot of people's ass as well. Congrats. Arizona State get a massive win over Texas Tech. We on the set all picked Texas Tech. I didn't love it at the time. I wish I would have known that going in would have picked the opposite because I think this was kind of a coin toss type game, to be honest. And the fact we all went with Texas Tech was very rude to you. Arizona. Arizona State, folks. Now this comes fresh off of Dillingham's accountability speech we heard last week. And obviously everything they got going on over there, we should have gave them a little bit more love. I am Arizona State fan. I would love to light up the Valley. Okay. I love the state of Arizona. My wife and I probably going to end up living out there someday. So anything out there doing well, I am a fan of. But he's a guy whose name is probably definitely Texas Tech. Tough loss here. Yeah.
- [81:14]
C
What about Matt Patricia? Like we've seen him sit in the park pocket both in a studio and when he's, you know, the head coach of a organization when he was with Detroit. And like, you know, his message gets through to college players like this is the best a defense has ever played like consistently in the history of college football.
- [81:33]
A
Yeah, that'd be crazy. He's got great weapons on that defense. Would Matt Patricia be able to get to a spot and recruit all the best players? I don't know.
- [81:42]
F
Colleges want to hire defensive guys though as well. We know in the NFL they're kind of biased towards hiring a of lot offensive guys.
- [81:47]
A
Mapatrus's name is definitely going to be interviewed.
- [81:49]
C
Does recruiting even matter as much when the money is the only thing that really matters now?
- [81:53]
A
Interesting.
- [81:54]
E
Oh, you still got to keep them.
- [81:55]
C
Well, why Nick? Why, why Nick Saban retire? Because they didn't have to anymore. It was only about the money, I don't think.
- [82:02]
A
Yeah, that's what he. That's what I think. They had the Money, though. There's only certain places that have like. I'm not saying Alabama doesn't have a good amount of money, but I think Saban said that he didn't appreciate the fact that every off season it was about a renegotiation, everything like that. But I also don't think they had just like the means to be able to say any dollar amount that you.
- [82:21]
C
Want, like Penn State.
- [82:22]
A
Bingo.
- [82:23]
E
So like legacy and you know you're getting drafted, you know you're going to be playing for a national championship, you know, all those different things. But like you said now that's, and that is why he left. Because guys coming in, hey, new money, more money. Ms. Terry said the same thing. But yeah, I, I still got. You still got to be, you still got to be a good, good recruiter. You got to recruit your own guys.
- [82:42]
A
Every, every. Ms. Terry said that she hasn't seen a number yet. Yep, she hasn't seen a number yet. I'm excited to see what that is.
- [82:47]
B
Somebody present one.
- [82:48]
A
Somebody just go ahead and, just go ahead and put one. Done.
- [82:51]
C
Yeah.
- [82:52]
A
Savings. This is the house you could live in. Okay, here's. I don't know what you need. Do you need a pool, spa, whatever. Here's that you have. And here's how much you can get every single year. And Nick sa me, I, I kind of like what I'm doing right now, man. Kind of liking what I'm doing.
- [83:05]
F
He.
- [83:06]
A
He's got to enjoy his life.
- [83:07]
B
Oh my God. Yes.
- [83:08]
A
Golfs a couple times a week, speaks a couple times, still goes into the office, watches film, wakes up on Saturday morning. Not the entire weight of the world on your shoulders, that if you win, it's going to be okay. And if you lose, fire. This guy. This guy's old. I think he's, he's at a point where he's pretty happy. You miss Terry? She's coming to a couple game days. Kids been stopped. I mean, everybody seems to be really enjoying this phase. Days of life. But anytime there is anything that is needed anywhere, it's like Saban will run it. Saban will throw his ass right back into a 90 hour a week job. Boom. Away from his entire family. And that's what he's earned, obviously. But I don't know if any of it is ever in reality.
- [83:48]
D
I just want to tell Nick, you know, he's doing great. Love him on game day.
- [83:52]
A
Okay.
- [83:52]
D
There's a couple other coaches, there's a couple other coaches decided to come back at 73 years old. Not going Great. So just stay at game day. But to put a bow on this, there's a potential. It's not just Florida and Penn State. Auburn potentially open up at some point this season. Florida State, maybe after the season. There's going to be a lot.
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A
Arkansas's already open.
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D
Yeah, Arkansas is already open. There's.
- [84:09]
B
Yeah, there's a lot of Wisconsin.
- [84:11]
A
Where are all these coaches coming from? Behind.
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D
They're behind.
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B
Yeah.
- [84:13]
C
Okay.
- [84:14]
E
Come somewhere. I love that Saban gets to go around and kind of get his flowers too. Everywhere, all the different campuses and shit he has. His coaching tree is so extensive that he gets to now go and see, you know, catch up with a Kirby Smart or Lane Kiffin. And now he gets to see these guys every week. Like, that's got to be crazy. Kind of full circle moment for him.
- [84:31]
A
Yeah, he's earned it.
- [84:32]
E
They're all for sure.
- [84:33]
A
Every day, every day around him is awesome. Talking shit to him, awesome. Him in the middle of something awesome. Him hating something awesome. Everything about him is awesome. Like he hold. He holds my chair, you know, whenever I get going up there and the game day social folks like, everybody needs a friend like Nick Saban or something. It's like, yeah, if you could get a friend like Nick Saban, you should definitely do that. If you can get somebody. I obviously held chair. Incredible.
- [84:58]
C
Yeah.
- [84:59]
B
Great at it.
- [85:00]
A
That is what he does. But just reading that, that caption, I'm like, yeah, get a Nick Saban if you can. One of the greatest leaders, let alone like mentorship leaders, guiding minds. Every, like, every time he speaks with that, you try to listen to the words that are coming out like, you're only going to get better as a human. We're lucky for it. Okay, let's talk a little bit of NFL. AJ went through our first 15. It took 45 minutes. The number five was some bucking mile high magic, you know, it looked like that game was over for the Denver Broncos and then they come storming back on DT day. They scored 33 points in the fourth quarter. They had 33 seconds left on their final drive. It was a 33 yard extra point that was missed. Obviously there's a lot of wild symbolism going on out there in Denver, Colorado, but Bo, Nick, Sean Payton get a huge comeback win and Giants fans are going, yeah, you should have won, but this kind of sucks. Would be cool to win. Brian Burns walking off the field in the tunnel actually showcased his emotions a bit. That was caught on camera where he was questioning a lot of things going on alongside Russell Wilson. Want to make sure his jersey was tucked in. Just in case somebody gets this on film. Okay. This is obviously going to get on film. He said drop an 8. Not happy about that. What are your thoughts on this game? We should be up on the Broncos. Up on the Giants or what? Doing. You're your takeaway.
- [86:18]
F
I honestly, I think you should be up on both of them. The Giants, yeah, they definitely thought they were going to win that thing at the end after they, you know, the. The Broncos, what do you call it? Sleepwalk. They were sleepwalking for two and a half quarters, three quarters almost. Then they found a way offensively especially. I feel like.
- [86:32]
A
I don't know.
- [86:32]
F
I think when you want to be a great team, you got to win in many different ways. I think the Giants, first off, they're a legit team. I think they're obviously what Jackson Dart and Scatter Boo have, like, injected into. This offense is huge for the whole organization, but I think their defense is legit. They know how to fight. Like, this is a game the Giants probably should have won. Obviously. I think D might lose his mind watching him walk out to the handshake like that. Dude was not happy at all. He thought they had this game. And this was a tough, tough situation right here.
- [86:59]
A
I think teams that were in their position now at this moment sit 2 and 3600 and something or something like that. I forget what it is. The only other win is the Indianapolis Colts on Monday Night Football against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Two, two and 3,677 in this situation. Congrats to Broncos. Those are tall odds.
- [87:19]
B
Yeah, they are.
- [87:20]
A
Those are tall, tall odds. They make it happen. Number four headline was, man, there's MVPs all over the league, dude. Seriously, it seems like every team that wins, I mean, we can put Bo Nixon there if we want to. If he ends up going on a run through the entire. They're five and two right now. Who knows what they end up at. Any of these teams end up with a really good record. They're going to be on prime time, they're going to be in big games, and if they perform well there, that's how you win. Bang. MVPs. Every single week. We have these massive kind of groups of potential MVPs on the. Yeah. Boom. Look at it. This is just from winning teams. This is just. This is just on the winning teams. And there's still four teams that are to play. So many good football players around the league right now, A.J.
- [87:59]
F
I mean, talk about Dak. I know. We've talked about the Cowboys and people love to talk about Dak just continues to roll and look so comfortable. He got his helmet ripped off at one point in this game. He doesn' care. He pops right back up. It's the Cowboys are fun to watch. I don't know if you guys saw it or not, but Elder Eberfluss, he was so and showing some emotion on the sideline. He was jacked up when the Cowboys defense made a few big stops later in this game. So I don't know, maybe the Cowboys have found something. We know offensively they've definitely found something there on the roll but maybe their defense can find a way to shore up some of this. I know the commanders were a bit you know they were missing a few key players but still credit to the Cowboys.
- [88:32]
A
It's a big win and what Maka has been able to do down a stretch for the Green Bay packers team, obviously Dallas Cowboys don't have that high highest QPR in a season. In a season history of metric which is since 2006. 2007 Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Drew Brees. Drew Brees and currently Dak Prescott. So I assume MVPs throughout all of those. That is what Dak Prescott is playing like right now. But if they can't win the playoffs, nobody will care.
- [88:55]
C
Yep, yep.
- [88:55]
E
He's in that conversation.
- [88:57]
A
That is exactly what people will say.
- [88:58]
D
Sucks. That their defense sucks.
- [89:00]
A
Yeah. But there's maybe Eberflu is getting jacked up. He might have the boys on their side yesterday. Might have the boys on his side. I'll tell you what, that can happen. Right? I mean boys can find something in the middle of a season.
- [89:10]
E
Yeah. And without a doubt, Ibrahim FL I know people are down on him. He's a good defensive mind. He's a good defensive coach. Can you buy in? He is playing. He was leading league in his own coverage and you have a bunch of man to man guys on the roster so that's tough to do. He did play more man to man this game. But like AJ mentioned, Washington was down. I believe their top two receivers, Terry McLaurin and Debo Samuel being out. But yeah, you got players in that building that are talented. You got talented coaches. They can definitely figure it out. Especially when you have an offense that can go out there and put up 35, 38 points any given Sunday.
- [89:42]
C
Well, it's the first time he's had a running game like every year for.
- [89:45]
F
The past three years.
- [89:45]
C
It's been like hey, they can't Run the football. And Javante Williams is kind of the guy that got kicked out of Denver after having, you know, a pretty solid start to his career. He's come in and he's been unbelievable. And also credit to shotty. Like we're talking about Ibrahim flu shot. He sat in the pocket throughout this entire Micah situation, throughout all of the Jerry Jones stuff, throughout everything. And somehow they're 3, 3 and 1 and they are in prime position for, you know, some sort of run going forward.
- [90:11]
A
You know, Brandon Aubrey probably wins that kickoff. If they have it in that overtime, they should be 4, 4 and 3. That one shouldn't be there they go the overtime kickoff. Him hitting from 61 as if it's just a cakewalk. That's dude's outrageous, bro.
- [90:24]
F
That's a record right how he kicks it. It's like his stroke is so effortless always.
- [90:28]
H
What is that?
- [90:28]
A
Sebastian Janikowski. Okay. Called me yesterday. I didn't answer it. Left me a voice memo. He mentioned something along the lines with an incredible Polish accent about fuck, maybe I come back the balls with the way the balls are. Sebastian's like, hey, you know, Lane Kiffin sent me out there for a 70 some yarder whenever I was with him. If I was able to bring in my own ball from practice that just had get cleared. I mean it's possible. That is kind of the view right now. It's like I think everybody's very happy for these kickers and punters, but it's also like you're about. We're about to see some real high level stuff. And I thought Janikowski's like how. Oh, let me still got it.
- [91:10]
D
I think he's probably still in shape.
- [91:12]
A
He's definitely in Janikowski.
- [91:13]
B
Yeah.
- [91:13]
A
For sure. He'll be like that forever. Probably could still boom balls. But it's like Aubrey hitting from 70 I don't think is really out of the woodwork. And I think a lot of people have talked. He's not the only one. I think there's other guys that probably.
- [91:24]
B
Do that and they play at Denver this week. So I saw a lot of people saying like hey, just like throw him a bone. Let him, let him attempt 70 plus. Like let him set the record. We'll see. You know what. What the case might actually be because if anyone's going to do it, it's going to be him.
- [91:38]
D
Didn't your new kicker.
- [91:39]
B
Yeah, he had 61 yard. Yeah.
- [91:41]
A
Lucas Haver knew that was happening too.
- [91:44]
B
Yeah. And this guy out of nowhere is low key kind of saved the season because they've needed. I mean that game was over and then, you know, he. He hits a 61 yarder before half when it was like, oh boy, this. This thing. And yeah, new. New packers record. So he. He was going to be a substitute teacher a couple weeks ago and he's. He's been absolutely massive the last two weeks.
- [92:02]
A
I love 66 is the NFL's record. And Haver goes from Mr. Ha. How do I say that?
- [92:08]
F
History.
- [92:09]
A
To hitting a 61 yarder against the Cardinals in a massive moment before halftime. That game was ugly, dude.
- [92:15]
B
So ugly.
- [92:15]
A
Delay, delay, delay the planes. That's why. Uhhuh. Bury the ball.
- [92:19]
C
Oh yeah.
- [92:19]
A
Take. Take the win and keep it moving, A.J. that's what you need to do if you're the Packers.
- [92:24]
F
Yeah, this isn't. I mean it's. That does suck when you hear this happens to these guys. But yeah, I mean they found a way to win. If they would have lost this game, then we would be saying something. No, this is a game. You have to find a way to win. And they did. But Jordan love though, I give him some credit. He took. He took a big shot from Buddha Baker. Like he. He got back up and kept fighting and ultimately found a way to get a win. I give him credit.
- [92:43]
A
You know, maybe find a new playing company. From our guys experience, it is quite a life changer.
- [92:49]
D
Or a bigger Runway.
- [92:50]
A
Yeah, bigger Runway. Put some men on, maybe get a new plane company. Gumpy and I hopped in a new plane this weekend. H. What?
- [92:59]
F
H. What am I like a hot tub in there or what?
- [93:01]
A
Maybe. Hold on. That might. That might as well. Yeah, it might be the next. That might be happening next week. That might be happening next week. There's really levels to all this. Packers need to get better travel. Okay. Them getting to Brazil was a problem. Arizona is a problem. Figure it out. It out, dude. Figure it out over there. Los Angeles, they didn't figure out how to get to London. They said we're hang out Baltimore. We're going to do a little, you know, like a baseball thing. Everybody's going to have fun. We're going to run sprints, we're going to steal home runs, we're going to throw pitches off the mound. We're going to be down at dugout. We're all going to chew and spit, maybe take a couple hacks at this thing and then we're going to fly over to London later than everybody else because we're just going to treat it like a normal week for us. We're not. We're used to traveling a good way because we're the Los Angeles Rams. And then we're going to score all over the place all morning and all of us are going to sue our way through a London blowout of the Jacksonville Jaguars. I love this team, AJ I love that they were on a sudo prime time too at 9.30am how can you.
- [93:59]
F
Not love this team? What? I believe they had seven sacks against the Jags and the Jags had some like 13, 14 penalties as well. Like that's not a. That's not really an equation to win. But yeah, Matthew Stafford still doing it. Unbelievable. I know you said he looks 32, 30, 31. Yeah, I would agree. The guy is awesome. And without Puka too. How do you. You still find a way and make little adjustments. That's why McVeigh is so good, man. He knows how to. He knows how to scheme teams up. He knows even if he's losing his superstar, one of his superstars, he'll still figure it out.
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A
D But now the question is Devonte obviously making magic. He's got to be so happy. I mean one hand stack there, a little bit of fable there. Let's go to the other side. Jacksonville Jaguars. Seeing everybody get mad about what, what's going on with Travis Hunter scores a touchdown, obviously. And we know he's majoring in one side and trying to develop a major in the other side as well. Is it too much? Is it not enough? Him with the ball in his hands obviously electrifying. What are your thoughts on what's going on with Travis Hunter and the Jacksonville Jaguars? It's getting a lot on here.
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E
Of course it is. And it's a tough spot to be in as an organization to manage something that no one has had to manage to this point. And he is, I mean he is phenomenal. And I get it. If I'm a Jackson Jaguars fan, I would never want him to come off the field. You see the PVU he had on Devonte, you see him getting his first touchdown here and then you see also him and Trevor Lawrence like still quite not been on the same page, which is weird because we're going into week eight now and he's been playing majority offense it seems. So you would think coming into this game with Devonte Adams just being kind of like that one premier weapon, you wouldn't have to use them on defense a ton. But when you lose games and the shit that AJ mentioned like 13 penalties, all the self inflicted negatives that these teams have Forget what you're doing with Travis Hunter. You got to figure out that stuff and not beat yourself. But yeah, I understand why fans or even just a fan of the NFL, you want to see Travis Hunter on the field all the time. I'm in the same boat.
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A
Well, Stoner told us the boundaries of football are about to be tested.
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B
He did.
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A
We're looking for it. Maybe on a terrible London field. Wasn't the right time. We'll see going forward. That 9, 30, 30 game felt different than a couple weeks back.
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C
Yeah, it did. What was the big difference?
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E
Different pitch for you.
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A
It was a different pitch. Different country, I guess.
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B
Yeah, yeah, yeah. A little gloomier. Not that's what it was.
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C
I know it was different for me.
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A
The teams that were playing. Oh, no, no, no. You're. You're gonna say it was London and it wasn't as many people traveling from America like the true.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Was there any McQuade stats about this week, ladies?
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B
The big McQuaid stat was. Lads, you'll never believe we. We actually ran the. The Peter Schrager version. But you know, they went over on Saturday. Can you believe that, lads?
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A
What's that?
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B
The Rams went over on Saturday. It's the latest any team has obviously ever went over to an NFL game overseas. Lads. And I'll tell you what, this is going to be moving forward. Teams maybe showing up two, three hours before kickoff.
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D
He's concerned about it.
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B
They may just be landing.
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F
Just saying, you know what, like a middle school game.
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B
Well, that's the thing. Well, the Jaguars were there since Tuesday. Lots.
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D
They got no. So it's. I mean, quaid got no IMs.
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B
Exactly.
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D
He's very concerned. This is going to be a thing.
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B
In and out like two ships passing in the night. Lots.
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A
Oh, they're a little bit worried over there.
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B
A little bit.
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A
Oh, cuz. What if this is the key to success? Cuz now future teams. Cuz there's always a battle.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Strength coach, body person expert is given one take. Football coach is saying, I want to change my routine.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Why can't we do this? And then their strength coach goes, well, your body actually, whenever it has to recover to the flight and the time. That's why we're going to do calisthenics in there like we're Russell Wilson. We got to make sure we get this amount of sleep. We're going to shut all the blinds on the way over there so that whenever we wake up, it's actually right in time with their time. And then all of a sudden we have a normal game as opposed to it. Then you hear some other body gurus go, we're acting like it's our time whenever we go over there. We're going to try to treat this as similar as possible. We'll just act as if it's a 9:30 game. We'll start doing some 9:30 games here whenever we're in America. Then we fly over there, we'll stay on standard routine. And now every single football coach is going to be able to say, these body gurus, Rams, whatever, on Saturday. I want to hear. That's what we're doing. Thank you. They play better than everybody. That's what they're going to say. A.J.
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F
I know. Was it. Who was it? Was it the Steelers who was. Wasn't able to go later? They wanted to do the NFL want to go.
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A
Steelers wanted to go earlier.
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F
That's right. My bad. Yeah. So you can go as late as you want. You can go as late as you want, but you can't go as early as you want.
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A
Yes. It sounds like although the Jags and also the Vikings lived over there for a little bit.
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G
So.
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A
Wow. That work?
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B
I don't know. It's interesting, isn't it?
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A
Oh.
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D
Feels like we're just flying by the.
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C
Seat of our pants over at that office, aren't we?
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A
Yeah, but if you're the Rams, you're flying by the seat of your pants very late.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You're flying your ass right back out of there first. Because if you win, you get first flights out. You know, that's kind of like the.
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D
They got a long flight back.
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A
It's kind of like a long. Just like Denver Broncos. Broncos go back, they're kind of shite offensively for three and a half quarters. Then they come alive after the London trip. Get a big time win. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who might have a couple takes on some things. He's also calling a game tonight. Oh, yeah. Different commentators in the morning, also Sundays.
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C
Yeah, that's why it was so.
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A
Greg Olson was week one. No, Rich. Rich, obviously just me are our normal international commentators. So it did. They've been in there for the last two weeks. Greg Olson was week one, I believe, of international play. Greg Olsen, not Rich and Kurt. Obviously we wake up with them for international games a lot. We appreciate them and their service and how they call games and. And what they've done for the NFL. Greg Olsen is a delight.
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B
I'd like him to do more games. I don't know how it's Possible, but I'd like him to do at least maybe like three games a week. Lads, lads. Why don't we get two lads from London all time?
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A
Well, what about the two Irish fellows that came into the.
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B
You get Jamie Carrier that were at Alabama.
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A
Did you see this?
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B
Yeah, Derek. Derek Carrier and Connell Diggin.
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A
I believe they went down there. And did you see their rental? It was a Ram 1500.
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B
Yes, yes, I did.
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A
They said the largest truck they've ever seen was our rental. And then they go right to our RAM 1500. And then that was their rent.
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B
Know the weather, too. They're like, there has been a cloud in the skies. This is unbelievable. There's no rain. There's no clouds. It's always sunny.
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A
They had a good time.
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B
They did.
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A
So maybe it is. Maybe the Irish lads do the commentary or Rich and Kirk continue to do it. But we do need more Olsen in there.
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B
Yes.
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A
And what we've learned is we need more Orlovsky. Yeah, we thought in the morning, not enough. In the afternoon, not enough. Let's put his ass in prime time. Ladies and gentlemen, tonight's an Orlovsky night and we thank our football heavens for that. God bless. Bless this man. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Rowski.
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C
Yeah, thank God, dude.
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A
Thank God. You're on a call tonight, Jesus.
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H
Okay.
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A
We gather here today to say thank you to the Lord for blessing our ears with Dan Orlovsky on a call tonight. In the name of Father, Son, Holy Spirit, say his prayer.
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B
Amen.
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A
Amen. Amen.
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E
Amen.
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H
Amen.
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A
Amen. Dan, how do you feel about tonight? Feel like you're going to have your fastball out there in Seattle? Is that what we're thinking? You really, you've dug in deep to the narratives of this game and the players. How do you feel tonight's game's going to go between the Texans and the Seahawks?
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B
Yeah.
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H
Tonight, heavyweight fight, championship defenses, God bless them already.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Anyways, I'm starting he way fight.
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H
I'm talented. Cfo. Seattle's got a Super bowl contending football team. I think they got the defensive player of the year right now and Leonard Williams. I don't think there's a better defensive player, more impactful defensive player. But now, specifically on the inside of football. So this a defense with Mike McDonald. I mean, dude, DeMarcus Lawrence right now is playing unbelievable football. Jared Reed's playing great. Byron Murphy's playing great. Mafe is playing great. Nick Eamon, Warrior rookie out of South Carolina, is going to Play just his size reminds people of Cam Chancellor and Kyle Hamilton. I'm not saying he's that type of player there yet, but this is a defense right now that it's just absolutely off the charts and it's an offense that's the big, best big play offense in the league right now. Sam and jsn, they just hunt big time throws down the field. It's one of my favorite offenses in the league right now. Schematically. Clint Kubiak, their offensive coordinator is son of Gary Kubiak who was one of the founders of kind of getting the Texans really solidified as a big time NFL organization. Took him to the first place playoffs. They're two tight ends are awesome, awesome players. So I love their offense schematically and awesome. I think it's a Super bowl caliber football team. I absolutely do. And then Houston's got the best defense or the best unit in football. No one talks about Will Anderson is destroying people on a consistent basis. I mean he's old school, old school defensive lineman. We're like, we asked them last night, what do you like better? So sacking the quarterback or splitting an offensive lineman in the run game and like he leaned back and was like hands over his face, didn't know how to say. He said, I get joy in doing both. And so yeah, this is a defense right now that is speed and physical and violent and Stingley's ridiculous. And so, you know, can their offense and offensive line specifically play better, more consistent? Houston, but this is a heavyweight fight tonight.
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A
Go ahead, A.J.
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F
Yeah, Dano, in this heavyweight fight, how do you expect CJ Stroud to play? I guess how, what have you seen early on this season in his play and maybe at times when, you know, hasn't been up to the standard that he kind of set early on in his career?
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H
Yeah, I, I think the, the question about Houston and Really when will CJ or can he get back to that 2023 form and production is really attached to three things. One, can the offensive line play better? This offensive line has been bad through the first three weeks of the the year game wise. Their last two have been better, but they've been beat one on one. They've been schematically overwhelmed. They've been poor, picking up pressure. So can the offensive line just build some continuity? They got a young left tackle starting a rookie. I wouldn't single block him one time tonight, so they got to play better. I think the second thing is with this new offensive coordinator, Nick Kay, who has a history with the Patriots and The Rams, I think their big thing is trying to find diversity on their early downs to create plays down the field for Nico Collins like this, like trying to not stress this offensive line so much in obvious passing situations. And then they're young receivers. You're seeing a clip of a Jaylen Doel, who's a rookie from Iowa State. They got a Jaden Higgins from Iowa State. So, you know, in 2023, he had Nico Collins, he had Take Dell, he had Steph dig. Now it's, you know, Nico who's established veteran and then some young pieces. So I think he'll play. If I'd say this, A.J. if they have early down success, CJ's got a chance to play well versus a great defense. If they struggle on early downs, it's going to be a long night for him in this offense.
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A
Look at cj. And let's go to the other side of the ball guy who's obviously had quite a resurgence over the last couple years. Go ahead, Ty.
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B
Yeah, Dan, obviously Hindsight Insight is 2020, but is it safe to say at this point that the Vikings made a massive mistake in letting Sam Darnold walk? I don't know what some people I think maybe thought last year was an aberration and he wasn't really going to be able to do the same thing. But you just mentioned it. You know, they're a Super bowl contender and he looks unbelievable.
- [104:51]
H
Yeah, I mean, he's playing at a high level mistake. When it comes to Minnesota, once they took jj, you kind of knew this. That was going to be the eventual, inevitably inevitable step. I'll tell you this, when you talk to Sam, you just have such an appreciation for how far he's come in his own journey. And the biggest thing we were talking to him, Ty was like, how did you not get broken? Like, how did you not get broken from the failures in New York and the struggles and then you go to Carolina and you stink and all that stuff. And he said, you know, he gave a ton of credit to his father. He's like, my dad has always just taught me just to try to get better day by day. And he was like, I just was focused on that. But I the two people that I was really surprised that he mentioned. He didn't mention a lot of people, but he emphasized Ben McAdoo as a guy, as a coach. If you remember the Lions coach, dude, he could not have sung his praises more of like, dude, that guy transformed my football career and my life. When it comes to the biggest thing was like him harping on his feet, like harping. And Sam calls it clicking through progressions. And then he, he said getting the opportunity to go to San Francisco and play behind Brock Purdy and he was like, I watched Brock Purdy play and watching Brock Purdy play made him such a better player because he the same thing, like how good Brock is with his feet. And he's playing awesome, man. He's super confident. JSN and Cooper cup have been tremendous for him, but he's playing the best football of his career.
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A
Okay, I can't wait to watch and listen to you on the call tonight. I think you do a great job, so we can't wait for that. Safe travels to wherever you're headed after the Seattle game tonight to be immediately on television. You just mentioned Brock Purdy right there. For Sam Darnold, watching him kind of go through his thing. You think Mac Jones learned from Brock Purdy as well? And what are your thoughts on the 4 and 1? Mac Jones led San Francisco 49ers situation.
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H
There's no question he learned from Brock Purdy and getting the opportunity to play. But I think they also had a similar play playing style. You know, when it comes to. They're very anticipatory type of players. They want to be ball distributors. They want to play the point guard thing. I think the couple things that stand out from last night's game from an offensive perspective for San Francisco. You guys remember when they cut Juszczyk in the. In the off season and there was like a little bit of limbo. Was he going to go back or not? Good God. I bet you they're grateful he's still there because he just does so much for their football team. McCaffrey is, you know, very much so in the MVP conversation. His touches right now are. I remember when they were dealing four months, four weeks ago with all their injuries, like, can they give him the ball that much? He's doing it all. I hope you guys play the clip of his long completion at the end of the game because the way that they. There's. He's maybe one of two players in the league. This one he's lined up as like a slot receiver. He's running a seam down the field like he's got the depth of a running back, the width of a slot receiver. He fakes like he's going to run almost like an out route and the seam, I mean, there's just not a lot of people that can do that. He chases the safety. Just an unbelievable play to be Able to like pull that play from McCaffrey is remarkable. And then I'd say this dude Robert Salah's got to get a lot of love. This defense hunted last night against Atlanta and a good offense. They chased the football so much and so incredible. Coaching job in San Francisco right now by foul and the fellows.
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A
It's a hunting season, isn't it? It certainly is. And the Niners look like they're incredible. They look like they're all the way back to being the best versions of them themselves. Once George Kittle starts opening up through the sky, that's only going to get even better for whatever quarterback is playing for them. And now let's talk about a quarterback who's playing like the best version of himself. And boy is it great to see. I think we saw this version a couple years back now maybe even in a bigger form.
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E
Yeah, once 15 and rig is hum. Everybody gets to kind of shaking in their boots. What's going on? What are you seeing with Patrick Mahomes in this office? I feel like he's been great all year but we just saw yesterday, yesterday with him having his weapons, having Hollywood, Rasheed Rice been back in the building worthy, all those guys been on the field for the first time at the same time. What are you seeing with this offense? What do you expect going forward?
- [108:56]
H
Conviction and trust and those are two words that Patrick and Andy Reid and Matt Nagy just did not have a lot of last year rightfully so the conviction to. To believe in one protection and to the people around them. You see the ball distribution, I think they had like nine or ten dudes catch passes and debut football. For me it's if you just watch the creative design of the plays that tells me Andy Reid and Matt Nagy trust those people on the field because we weren't seeing it over the last year up until like three weeks ago it has started and they're back to some of the motion stuff. They're back to creating some of the one on ones for perimeter players. If you see yesterday how they would take on a consistent basis, Kelsey on one side of the ball, Rasheed Rice on the other side of the ball and you notice like it balances their formation then what are you going to run? You're going to run zone, you're going to run man. I'll with Travis and the work opposite and just we're seeing more plays where Patrick is, you know, not leaving the pocket too soon but they're just giving him the opportunity to say hey, does the initial read hit Great, get it out of your hands. And if not, Patrick, go make some special plays. And it's not out of a running for your life necessity. It's out of the, oh, I have time to maneuver a little bit. That's a big difference than last year. And so I probably undervalued the impact of Worthy and Rice on their offense. Having those two guys back, man, true trusting conviction from everybody in that offense.
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A
Rasheed rice last 17 games, including playoffs, equivalent of one full season, 106 catches on 139 targets, two drops, 1169 yards, 61 first downs, nine touchdowns. And they were force feeding them too.
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H
It was very much like, welcome back is their offense.
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A
Yeah, they're very much like welcome back. We. It is great to have you. And who knows what they do before trade deadline too. You never know with this Kansas City chief Chiefs team. And as soon as they showed a glimpse of being great again, the sports books just go, yep, they're the favorites and he's the favorite even though nobody else was seeing it at the time. Let's talk about another team, the reigning super bowl champs. They might be in their best form. Jalen Hurts threw three touchdowns yesterday. Connor has a question for you.
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C
Yeah, Daniel, we were all shocked when the Eagles were throwing the ball to A.J. brown, DeVonta Smith, and it was working. What did they do to kind of unlock this, or not even unlock it, but kind of bring it back to everyone's forefront? Because there was about, I don't know, 2/4 of this game where it thought, oh, wow, watching the Eagles sucks now. But then you remember how many studs they have on their team. What was the difference you saw from them on Sunday?
- [111:26]
H
Yeah, I think so. The first touchdown to A.J. brown is just kind of like backyard football. That ball there, right there that he throws to devonte. So this one to aj. This is just, I think this is decently subpar defense. They don't rush that well. AJ is matched up really on a safety. This is the big one though, to devonte, number one. Six offensive linemen number two. He's underneath the center, number three. Play action. They haven't done any of that this year. And so it leads to a huge play. AJ's in the backside running the in. Everybody's attention is playing to him or pointed to him and he has that beautiful post. Touchdown to devonte Smith. But they did more of that. I think you saw Jalen be really good when it came to plus plus plays, like breaking outside of the pocket and getting into scramble mode. Dude, you Know what's my favorite part of this? Another under center six offensive lineman play action. Throw the ball in the middle field. You don't say so like. But this doesn't have to be necessarily who they are, like, on a consistent basis. But three, four, five times a game. Look how wide open these are. So that has to be a little bit. You want to know what my favorite part of the game is, though? This is one of the best throws I've ever seen. Jalen hurts throw like that. That ball is out of his hands so early. So, guys, you're throwing the. You're showing that play. My favorite part is Jalen hurts 100% lies about that final completion. AJ Brown. So on second down, follow me through here. Second down, the AJ's by himself again to his left right before that last completion. Minnesota runs their all out pressure. AJ runs the slant. It's a little behind incompletion. Okay, Philadelphia calls timeout. The very next moment they get into a relatively same formation. Minnesota's lined up here. Comes all out pressure, pressure. You see Jalen hurts point to the left a little bit before this ball gets snapped if you guys can rewind it. But if not, he points to his left to AJ saying like, hey, if that guy blitzes, you're my quote unquote hot route. And the corner D butt is watching Jalen hurts do that. He totally lies. Like, you can see the corner.
- [113:24]
E
It's a former teammate too.
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D
A.
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H
Yes, 100%. And Jaylen's like, hey, if he pressures, you got to give me the slant. And they run the slug gun. The reason I know that Jaylen's not pointing in reality is the whole offensive line slides to the left. If he was sliding the whole offensive line to the left, he ain't telling him he's hot off anybody to his left. And so that to me like that to me goes back to what Jaylen grew in last year was like owning the line of scrimmage, situationally being perfect. That gives me juice to my veins to know that, that style the ball.
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A
We didn't know where the juice was, but we know your blood is flowing over there, brother, and you should get excited.
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H
I love that stuff, man.
- [114:03]
A
I like to see Jalen hurts playing a little chess. Hey, yeah. Yeah, we're doing this. Yup. Slugo slant. Go. See you later. Isaiah has been having a hell of a season.
- [114:11]
E
Absolutely.
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A
That Minnesota Vikings team as well. Congrats to the Eagles. Congrats to Dano. We'll hear him tonight. And congrats to those of you that enjoy watching us on TV and then get sick of us. Because we're done here. We'll continue digitally. We'll be back tomorrow.
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H
Be those people don't exist.
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A
They do, Dan. Goodbye. Yeah. And. Okay. We're still live, Dan. We're still live.
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H
Okay.
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A
Sorry, I know it's 10:57 your time.
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H
Early 10:57. Yeah.
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A
Wow.
- [114:40]
E
Got your workout in already.
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A
What time is it here? Eastern.
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H
Two, Almost two.
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D
Okay, there you go.
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H
No workout in. Yeti, but no workout in yet. I had to get the tape wash this morning, bub.
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A
All right. Oh, no sweat.
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H
Workout in, though.
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A
I can kind of tell. Can we. You can't. Yeah, no sweat.
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B
A little bit.
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A
Yeah. Kind of awful.
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H
A little edgy.
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A
Yeah. But then he lost it there with Jalen put. I mean, that was a good.
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B
Oh, yeah.
- [115:04]
H
Oh, dude, that's so fun to talk. Find stuff like that.
- [115:07]
A
That is. That's. Hey, that's why it's Dano season. You should change that shirt. Dano season. Yeah, that be sick because it is Dan O. Dad season. School too lucky to be a part of it. I believe that's Big Richard, Nick Foles's thing.
- [115:19]
B
Oh, it is.
- [115:20]
H
I believe Nick Foles and Pat odonnell.
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A
Punter, former punter Pat o'. Donnell. Dad season stuff. So I appreciate you showing them love, but we need a Dano season. We're in the middle of it right now.
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B
We are.
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A
And now we even get prime time. Dano now this year more than ever, calling a Monday Night Football game. And you know the thing we like about Dano? He'll give you a take. Oh, yeah, he'll give you a take. On that note, Diggs has the last question for you. Dano.
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D
Yeah, Dan, I do. You know, a lot of people thought it couldn't get any worse in Miami, and then they played football on Sunday and things were not. Well, it was windy, it was wet, and that is just not the Miami Dolphins atmosphere. And TUA through three interceptions. Is there any coming back for this Miami Dolphins team and TUA more specifically?
- [116:03]
H
I don't think there's any way to come back. This team wise, that tape was tough to watch. It's tough to defend, man. It's tough to sit there and sit there and try to like, defend or find positives. I mean, the balls going through guys, hands getting picked off. There's five, six, seven snaps that are all over the place. There's. There's receivers and quarterbacks not being on the same page. There's blown assignments galore. It Looks very similar to the week one game against Indianapolis. Defensively, there's moments when guys aren't tackling properly. I mean, it's a tough, tough watch and it's a tough tape that you're sitting there and try to defend is they're coming back for Tua, so that's a tough pick.
- [116:44]
A
Man, Chase.
- [116:46]
H
I mean, everyone Muppets, man.
- [116:49]
A
The hurts Hurricanes, then this, then.
- [116:52]
H
Here's the thing with Tua. Here's the thing with Tua, though. Tua does need to be in a very specific scheme now. When he's in it, he's off the charts. When it's clicking, he's top five. And he's one of those guys that is very unique with the scheme that he can and needs to run. But it's very. He's a very scheme centric quarterback. And so I still believe that he's a very good player. I'd also say this and like, listen, listen. Their roster is devoid of talent, man. It is devoid of talent.
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A
They traded all their pro.
- [117:22]
H
We could sit here and yell at the coach or the, the quarterback.
- [117:26]
A
I thought that was a good idea. You trade all your Pro Bowlers. I thought that's what we were doing.
- [117:29]
D
Well, we paid Jude on 6 million and he was a healthy scratch. We paid Zach Wilson 6 million. He was a healthy scratch yesterday. So Chris Greer's got it all under Waller, though.
- [117:37]
E
Yeah.
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A
About to.
- [117:41]
D
We'll never forget that.
- [117:43]
A
I like Darren Waller. I'd like him to come to the Colts. I love Darren Waller. Darren Waller, Tyler Warren.
- [117:47]
B
Oh, man.
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D
You don't want to take part?
- [117:49]
F
Yeah, I'd say yeah, I'm cool with.
- [117:52]
A
Us just taking everybody else off. Nope. We need Pittman, obviously need to keep Pittman doing his thing. Pierce making some tough catches.
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E
So many weapons.
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A
Jonathan Taylor.
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H
Dude, that Colts team, go on, they're. They are schematically, yeah, as well coached as anybody in the NFL on both sides. Dude, the stuff that Lou Annarumo is doing, defensively debut is insane. Some of the pressure package come sometimes I watch your tape, I'm like, I have no idea what this defense is.
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A
And Nick Cross two, number 20. He's going to get home. He went off. He is going to get home. He. He has a lot of blitzes for us. He has a lot of pressure for us. He, he does lead on our defense. Yeah, he is. Interception over the place. Bynum, obviously spectacular. Kenny Moe's back for first time. Long time. That's huge play. I mean, in a red zone getting that type of turnover Is giant.
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H
But like, I, I think they went like three man rush with the spy. They doubled lad. They double Keenan. I want to say, like, it was pretty exotic, the stuff that they do.
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B
Yeah.
- [118:52]
H
Like look at. They're doubling, doubling. They're cutting, they're replacing. It's three man with the spy, dude. It's nuts.
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A
Yeah, we do what we do. I mean, this is what we've been saying this whole season. Thank you. And we. Welcome to the show, pal. AJ Lou Anarumo's defense, perfect for Indianapolis. Been saying it since the off season.
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F
Yeah, we have. Dan, why did. Why the Bengals get rid of Lou Anarumo? If we see what he can do here with this Colts defense.
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A
Look at that, Grover.
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B
Speed.
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A
Look at everybody on the field, Daniel. Look at everybody celebrating. This pick his second quarter.
- [119:18]
F
That's not a penalty.
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E
Right.
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F
They don't call. I was worried they're going to call.
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A
This a penalty in real offense coming on the field, defense going. There's a lot of bodies.
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F
52 got there. It was amazing.
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A
53 actually. That's everybody we got. It's a team thing. Go ahead, Dan. I'm sorry, buddy.
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H
Yeah, I mean, no, I, I love that, that you're pointing that out about the team because obviously some of the stuff I had heard you kind of reference about the past, dude, you know, the league, man, like, it's a bad defense, someone, a bad unit, someone's got to take the fall, you know. And so I, I can't imagine that Cincinnati was looking forward to firing Luannarumo, but they were terrible racing, historic quarterback performance by Burrow. So my guess is that someone had to.
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A
Wow, what a cr.
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H
Yeah, he loved Miami, so that, that's why. But I'm telling you, man, I think that the moves that stand out, watching, looking at IND on a consistent basis, they could beat anybody. Like anybody that's going to tell me the Chiefs are the best team in the AFC that you haven't watched. Indy. Indy can run it. They can throw it, they can stop the run, they can cover. They did all this without Ward yesterday. If you think about the three moves that Chris Ballard and Indy made this offseason. One, they drafted that cat, Tyler Warren. What a great. This play design is sick, by the way. I, I haven't seen anybody run that one. The drafting of Tyler Warren, they add Daniel Jones and Daniel's playing just out of his mind. And then the addition of Lou Anarumo. The, the, the. The. Those three additions have transformed this football team into a Super bowl contender like There's Kansas City's very good, very, very, very good.
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C
I don't need.
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H
This team is as good as anybody in the afc.
- [121:01]
A
Thank you, Dan. We appreciate you saying that because it's a reality and obviously you're former Colt, so we're obviously taking a lot of pride whenever we see you have success. Like call a Monday Night Football football game tonight starting at 10pm Eastern. So for those of us that might not see or hear you on that one, what are your thoughts on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Lions, which kick everything off at 7 o' clock on ABC?
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H
Yeah, the Lions got to come out throwing the football. This is an offense that hasn't been great running the ball. They've been good this year, but not great. Tampa's a very good run defense. They struggle versus the pass. If I was, you know, if I were the, the Lions, I'd come out throwing the football and being very aggressive. Aggressive early on. I don't know exactly who's playing for Tampa. You know, is Mike gonna play as Emeka gotta play or not? Detroit's got massive injuries in their secondary and so you would sit there and say if those two guys play and are somewhat close to a high level health, like, there should be a ton of success by Baker. And so I think that there's the chance for kind of a little bit of opposite our game. I think our game's more than likely going to be defensively dominated, maybe not as many points. I think if those guys play for Tampa and Detroit does what they should do there, there, there could be a good amount of points scored by both teams.
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A
All right, Dana, we appreciate you taking time in this morning hour for you out there in Seattle. And what time is it for us right now?
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H
You guys are just after 2 o', clock, which means we're just after 11.
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A
Nailed it. Okay. We appreciate you. Safe travels. You can con education always showing up.
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H
This weekend, D. Hell, yeah.
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A
What you guys? Basketball started back up big.
- [122:40]
H
Boys beat the crap out of bc. Girls beat the crap out of bc and football beat the crap out of bc.
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A
Yeah, Football won a game.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Yeah.
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E
We got a quarterback. Don't look now, he's gone. Spinning it.
- [122:51]
A
Where's he going? West Virginia.
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E
Stay there.
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A
We got our asses kicked again. I'll tell you what.
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E
Play another. Good team.
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F
Great team.
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A
Cf. Ucf. Yes.
- [123:04]
E
I did see that score.
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A
There we go. They had a lot. We didn't have a lot.
- [123:07]
E
Trust decline.
- [123:09]
A
No, don't say that. That's Neil stuff. Oh, we're finding a Hard edge.
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B
Yeah, there you go.
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A
We're currently finding a hard edge. We're looking all over the place. Soft edge, soft edge, soft edge, soft edge. We're trying to find a hard edge. We're gonna get there eventually. We. And you're already there, Dan. That's why you're the best in the game. We can't wait to hear you tonight alongside Lewis Riddick and Chris Fowler. And I guess shrags too, ladies and.
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H
Gentlemen, Shakes and Katie George.
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A
And Katie George. Can't wait. That's a late one. Probably won't see much of it, but we'll watch it tomorrow morning. You're the man. You're a good man, Dan Orlovsky. All right, let's make our picks get out of here, boys. Big time of reaction. One day into a big time Tuesday. AJ you were 9 and 4. I was 8 and 5. So obviously whenever we look at the pitch, you will pick first. Then I might choose to just go opposite you so that I can catch you and win tonight because I need one now that I'm down two, three and one on a season. And you're three, two and one on the season. Don't love that we have the one at the end, but I wouldn't mind that tonight for me, would not care. If this one's 2, 3 and 2 and he was 3, 2 and 2, then, you know, we got a lot of season left. But right now, let's start with Bucs at Lions. Lions favored by six and a half in Detroit Rock City. Is there any other lines? Tone Diggs.
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D
The bucks are getting 71% of the bets. And then any other lines? You can get six and a half or six.
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A
Okay. And remember, public bets are one game above.500.
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D
Yes.
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A
This particular weekend thus far, D. Butch, who do you like? How do you like it?
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E
I'll just. I'll just go. What's on the screen is six and a half and I will take the Bucks. I think this is way too many points, honestly. You got an MVP candidate playing quarterback for the Bucks. We'll see who plays, but we've seen enough this season. That doesn't matter. He's going to make this game close at least. So I'm taking the Bucks to keep it close against the Lions.
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A
AJ Are you agreeing with D. Bucks? Are you going Bucks plus six and a half?
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F
Yes. I was surprised to see this number at six and a half. That was a little too much for my liking. And I love what the Bucks are doing. So, yes, give me Baker and the.
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A
Bucks Here, that's exactly what I wanted, is somebody who's down two games, you know, who need you. Give me the Lions minus six tonight at home. This is a Dan Campbell special. Everybody's hurt. Everybody's hurt. That's how we like it, man. That's how we like it. And keep in mind, this is at Ford Field, and Lions fans are pissed off right now everything that happened last week. So I'm feeling pretty good about this one tonight. So give me the Lions a minus six. Although I think if I was to pick it and this was like the beginning of the week.
- [125:36]
D
Sure.
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A
And I didn't need to gain on AJ and the potential pick thing, I probably would be riding with you guys with the bucks. I still think Bucks get the win, but why not? Nope. Actually, I don't. Texans. Seahawks. Seahawks favored by three and a half at home. Who do you like? How do you like it? D. BU and is there any other lines?
- [125:53]
D
Yeah, you could get a three out there if you're interested in the Seahawks. And 66% of the public's on the Seahawks.
- [125:59]
A
Okay. We got two more games with 60 plus percent. This thing could end up very over for the public. Or we can lose this and the sportsbooks can win another week straight in the NFL. D Bull.
- [126:09]
E
I'll go against the public on this one. I like the Texans on the road to keep it close in a cagey affair. The Seahawks are a good team, but they struggle to win and cover at home. So I'm going to Texas.
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A
Texans plus three and a half is Darius Butler. How about you, A.J.
- [126:23]
F
This is a heavyweight match or heavyweight matchup or whatever he calls fight Dano, but heavyweight fight. You tell you what, I like the Seahawks at minus three here at home tonight.
- [126:33]
A
Okay, give me the Texans plus three and a half. Then on the opposite side of that, I have to go the opposite way of AJ When I did this in the past, it worked out okay.
- [126:41]
F
Worked last week.
- [126:42]
A
Yes, it did. Now, it doesn't mean that I'm making good picks in the NFL, but, boy, I'm seeing it in college. Maybe that'll carry over. Or maybe AJ Will continue to be one of the hottest betters in the entire world when it to comes. It comes to the NFL. We appreciate the hell out of you, AJ Boys in the back. Great work. We got another episode of Rushmore coming out tomorrow morning at Rushmore on X. Dunkers. Dunkers.
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C
Yes.
- [127:03]
F
What a great. That's a great topic.
- [127:04]
A
Dunkers. It's really good.
- [127:09]
E
You ever show up late to the game?
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A
And your friends already saved your seat.
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E
Your drink, even a plate that's looking.
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A
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E
Or they'll proactively make it right.
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A
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C
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D
The final number for tonight, The Buccaneers are plus 6 or 6.5 going into Detroit and we have 71% of the money is on the Bucks. And then tonight, Texans are at Seahawks. Seahawks minus three or three and a half if you want the Texans. And 66 of the money's on Seahawks.
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A
Okay. And AJ's on both the public. Right. Bucks and Seahawks.
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B
Correct.
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A
As are you.
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E
No, I went with both the underdogs cover.
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A
Okay, I like that. Let's have a great Monday night now. Let's enjoy the hell out of our Monday with one of the greatest segs that we have, you know, continued here for multiple years. This morning I put out bird call saying, hey, listen, it's a great Monday. Hope you're. Hope you're doing well, hope you have a great start to your workweek. If your work week starts on Monday, if you have to work today, we hope it goes great. We hope your Monday morning coffee motivated. We hope everything was fantastic. But also we would like you to utilize one particular post on X the Artist formerly known as Twitter and tweet us what your feelings are about your football team. Is your football team dead? Are they alive? Should everybody get fired? Should everybody get a new deal? All you got to use is the hashtag. I don't want to overreact but came number one trend. Yeah, a lot of very serious things trending currently. So six seven was where I thought we were going to hang out at. Instead we become number one. Let's get to some of these overreactions Ty went through and picked his favorites. Here's from bubblegum Pino. He looks like a sorry, sorry Dolphins fan. I assume this guy also likes Liverpool who lost for the first time in a hustle years to Manchester United. I assume this man is also a Miami Hurricanes fan, lost right there on Friday night to Louisville as well. But when it comes to his Miami Dolphins team, he says hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but it's Jover. Brother, how many times have you used this particular picture of it being Jover or Joe Bover? And why is now the official jovial over announcement for the Miami Dolphins?
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D
Gumpy, this is the first time this year and this era of the Dolphins is over. It's McDaniel, it's Tua, it's Chris Greer. If it's not a clean sweep, doesn't matter. Nothing's going to change, man. Let him finish the season though. Legit. Let him finish the season. I don't care. Let him play it out, boys.
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A
Yeah, but the Capri still got a good chance.
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D
Exactly. And I, I almost feel bad for McDaniel. I want to see see him smile.
- [131:43]
A
Well, that's cuz as we go. We remember all the times we had together scored 70 against the Denver Broncos.
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B
Yep.
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D
Yeah, it's running off the field doing this so much home, so much yesterday. It was a good time. It was a good run.
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E
Number one.
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D
Almost won a playoff game that one time.
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A
Maybe. As we go on, we remember.
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B
All.
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A
The times we sat together, like when you paid Tyreek Hill the most amount of money in the history of wide receivers and he chose the check over, like, winning. And then now it's all coming back to bite everybody's in the ass as we go. We remember all the times we had together. McDaniel's press conferences were awesome. Yeah, they were. So if it is over, I'm gonna miss those. Just coming from a completely different. Different angle.
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D
Yeah.
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A
As we go.
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B
Don't forget.
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D
Yeah. Show me the buddy.
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A
Yeah.
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E
That's where.
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D
Man, that was the end of it. That's when it started.
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A
Did we call it in real time? I don't remember.
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F
I think you did. I think you did.
- [133:16]
A
Just. I don't know how. That's the thing you say to the people coming to the free practice at training camp at 150 degree. But on that note, I think still think Tua goes to another place. Comes a backup quarterback. Somebody goes down, Tua steps in. We're watching it right now. Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Danny Dimes, you name it, this is going to happen. He doesn't.
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D
He doesn't love the game like those other boys.
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A
He does it. He does it. He does it. He does it. He does it. That's the truth. Damn it. That's a Jova reaction.
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B
You're right. You're right.
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E
That is. You're right.
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A
Let's move along. We're emotions are high. It's overreaction Monday. AJ let's go to Bruce. This one's good. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Giants invent a new way to lose with a historic defensive collapse and somehow once again find themselves without a kicker. Shane Bone is addicted to sending G men. Wins to a grueling death with an unprepared prevent defense. And yet hope springs eternal. Jackson Dart will. Will save us all. Amen. Hey, maybe next year, Bruce. Maybe next year, Bruce. That's good news. That's what we learned yesterday. Yeah, it was great.
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F
I mean, we finally married, you know, moxie at quarterback with an offensive line that's competent and can block. And still the organization found a way to fail the young man.
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A
And Broncos are good. Football. Football. Great football team on DT. Then did he throw an interception with.
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D
5 minutes left or was that someone else?
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A
It was under five minutes, actually.
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D
Okay.
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A
Yeah, it was 455, I think so you see the guy third and five. The other team only had one time. I'll just take a sack actually potentially in this. Let the clock run. He's a rookie though. He's going to learn from these mistakes. Which leads to the future day ball back. Right. Because we got a young up and coming everything. This is kind of what we know now about the Giants is we have a bright future. Right, Bruce?
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F
Yeah, yeah, it seems like, you know, Shane and Dave's will. We'll be sticking around. A lot of people are going at Shane Bowen, our defensive coordinator. They would like to see maybe a change made there. Maybe Antonio Pierce. But yeah, I guess, you know, if we want to play. The moral victory the Nick Bonito and, and Jonathan Cooper and the Broncos defense were talking all week and Jackson Dart saved that one interception with five minutes left. Was belt the ass and kick the out of him, you know.
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A
And when he had to answer, he did.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Just too, too quick.
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F
Showed, showed the moxie, the grit, the, the fight, the clutch gene that, that you love to see.
- [135:39]
A
But man, it's like, can we just.
- [135:40]
F
Stop fucking ourselves from the top down with missing extra points, going for two, we don't get it and then we can't get a stop all fourth quarter.
- [135:50]
A
It's just embarrassing. The extra point thing, it stinks. Whenever you don't have a kicker, man, that really does stink. And now granted, this kid, I think I saw him hit a 60 some yarder barefoot on the Internet. Got an incredibly huge leg.
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F
You knew it was over. We knew it was over right when he missed that.
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C
That's true.
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A
Yes.
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E
Barefoot.
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C
That's cool.
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A
Yeah. This is international.
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E
Oh, this is what's on McQuaid's guys.
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B
This is one of McQuade's guys.
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A
Yeah. McQuaid would say the same thing as I. This guy is a good ball kicker.
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B
Yeah, good lad.
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A
Lots. Just missed by this much though.
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B
Yeah, a couple times.
- [136:22]
A
Well, yeah, but if you do that, the ball just stands to the right. He did. He's only going to get better this. Yeah, but the Giants fans don't hear that.
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C
No.
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B
Is he gonna get better, better on the Giants?
- [136:32]
A
No, I don't think so.
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F
Pride of Derry county has to find a new home.
- [136:36]
A
Okay.
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E
The future's bright though. Malik Neighbors back healthy. Next year, the quarterback probably picking high scable.
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B
Yeah.
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H
Yeah.
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E
Boom.
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A
Let's go lads.
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B
Here we go.
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F
Let's go on to next year.
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A
All right, let's go to the next on the next year.
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F
On to next year.
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A
We can't.
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F
It's not even trick or treat yet.
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A
We're on it next year. It's an 18 week season.
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D
There's a lot of teams like that.
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A
It's eight week. It's week eight. We're going into.
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F
We're not on to next year. We're on to the Philadelphia Eagles.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's over. Okay. All right, let's go to the next one. This is dark the door. You know him, Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but Jim Merced smiling Colts went from dumpster fire to contenders in one year. Piss ponding teams is another day at the office for Daniel Jones, JT Big Quentin Nelson, Big Grove and crew. Now it's time to swing for the fences and bring another 98 in the building to make QB shite their pants. Bring Max Crosby to Indy. Hey, Dirk. Love what you're saying, bub. It is just kind of another day at the office. Danny Dimes makes the perfect decisions. Our offense makes incredible plays. The defense seems to be smaller. Danielski says, I don't even know what they're playing out there. They got like the bring in three with a double team and a double team and a spy. They're doing yada yada, yada. Lou Anarumo's culture is fantastic. And I'll tell you, big 98 coming over here. All those tats, just every single play, I'm going to ruin somebody's life. That'd be a great addition for us. There's a lot of teams saying they'd like Max Crosby though.
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E
And like you said, he. He's obviously going to be offended by this because he is Raider through and through, I believe. Is it? Yeah. Is it tatted on him?
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A
Yes.
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E
Okay. Yeah. So, but.
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A
But with that being said, new tattoo.
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D
Wouldn't you rather win though?
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E
He asked him to maybe.
- [138:22]
A
No, he said he wants to be part like. Hasn't that always been thing. Aj he's gotten like mad at us for even talking about it in the past, I think.
- [138:28]
E
Can't blame us.
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F
Yeah, he gets it. But it's ultimately a compliment to him. Like, hey, you're so awesome. We want you to come over to the Colts because you guys aren't winning the games that we feel like a player like you, like you should be on a team playing deep into the playoffs every year also.
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D
Those are sick.
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A
These eyes would like to see you in a meaningful football game.
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B
Yes.
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A
Just one time, dude.
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F
Why do you have to put those on for that?
- [138:52]
A
Because you get a better View in here.
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F
Dude, I don't think so.
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C
Yeah, you do.
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A
Yeah, right. Look at my Periph 2.
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E
It's pretty legit.
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A
I'm holding up three over here.
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F
I could see you got good perf too.
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A
Thank you. Thank you so much, so much T. But I saw what you were doing earlier. These eyes though, they want to see him in a damn.
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E
What jockey wants condor?
- [139:16]
A
To be Honest, I'm not 100% sure where one of Bafford's jockey BH BH Brian Hernandez. Dick Strike won the derby a couple years ago.
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E
Those are his.
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A
Brian Hernandez's goggles on.
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D
Pretty cool, right?
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A
And with them all, I want to see Max Crosby playing a big game.
- [139:39]
E
Yes.
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B
And they're, they're bad. I mean we're talking about the, the Fins, the Raiders are right up there.
- [139:43]
D
Let's not forget the jets and Titans.
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B
The jets and Titans as well. But boy are they bad.
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A
Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from John Edwards, also known as Fatimir Guerrero Jr. At Jack Edwards, 1980. This man is 45 years of age typing this hashtag, I don't want to overreact but all these pundits who wrote the obituary of Patrick Holmes and the Chiefs jumped the gun. They're not dead, they're sitting up like the undertaker. The Chiefs are still the Chiefs and number 15 is the MVP. Not bad for the 13th ranked quarterback in football. So they still had those. Saw, they still had those because there's so many other stats they could put up. So many other stats. Like PFF says 90% of pressures last week came from this man. Like there's so many things they can pull from PFF to make these dudes look good. Instead they still want to roll out there. This dude's 105 out of 112 fucking ass right here.
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Put him over.
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Thank you for watching Sunday Night Football where the best play. Now on that note, here's ass, ass and ass across the starting lineup and on the other side. Just wait till you see this bullshit. This guy's 64 out of 67. Nobody really wants to watch that. But that's what we have tonight. Why would you want that? I don't know why you would want that. That with Patrick Mahomes. Why would we put how many Super Bowls the fucking guy has across the bottom already in goat conversation? Oh, maybe as a viewer that doesn't know football, I'd like to watch this guy who's almost the goat. You know what, you know who I want to 115 out of 115. I want to see this guy. Like why doesn't it's not good for anything, let alone every player coming out and saying we hate it. Yeah, this is. And it is used against us in our public life. But NBC said no. Yeah, we're smarter than you guys are.
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D
I got. Yeah, I got bad news for this guy.
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A
Go ahead.
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D
Looks like he dropped the 26.
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Patrick Mahomes did.
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D
Looks like it. If, if I'm reading this after this game correctly.
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Yeah, I'm sure Flacco shout out to top three enough. But that's a great point though. Like because of all the information they do have, they could put Patrick Mahomes 138 for 157 be on the sticks, blah blah, blah. Like all these different intricate stats that they have. Like.
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A
Yeah, well, well then a graphic designer.
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Would have to say it's more work.
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F
Be a little more work.
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A
Yeah.
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E
Photoshop, it's not that hard.
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F
Oh, you're right. I've heard you can use that.
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A
Adobe Photoshop.
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E
Yeah.
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F
Is that good, Foxy? I've heard about that.
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A
It's pretty good. You know what else is pretty good? IG story. You can really. You can just. You can make graphics in your IG story. Pretty good.
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G
Good.
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A
You can canva too, I think had an appearance in that entire video. That's also pretty good. Adobe Photoshop though. You can really. You can whip in there a little bit. You can cook a little bit. I mean, I don't want to talk for the graphic boys over there. Debone just uses AI and then says this is mine.
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B
Sure.
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A
Yeah. Hey, he found it.
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C
I was gonna say good.
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B
His baby.
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A
He's just saying that's not true. Obviously I use it to help with some things, but it is all my work and. And we know it is. D bun's a talent. All the graphic people, artists, they're like artists. So you gotta respect their. You know what I mean?
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H
Creative process.
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C
Yeah, it's sucker Dirty's.
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A
No, it doesn't suck.
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C
It sucks.
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I like that they care that much. Dirty is an artist. Dirty will work with us. Debone artists will work with us. I don't think it's. I don't think that's a gig we're gonna be hiring a lot of people for though. Does that make sense? Never want to run a business that has a bunch of graphic designs.
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C
Yeah, I don't think many companies are going to be hiring many of them them anymore.
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A
Because what we said about Deboner Yeah, I'd say yeah, but you need the human. Like I think that's what we need. But also humans need to be able to use the AI too. So it has to be like a little bit of a. That's for now, a little bit of a partnership. What happened? There's a new word being used or new.
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C
There's just this thing called the AGI theory and it's artificial general intelligence and it's basically sentient AIs. And over the weekend, over the weekend, Elon Musk said, my belief in AGI is now 10% and or rising. And that was Saturday at 3am I saw it on Saturday morning while I was watching game day.
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A
10. 10%.
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C
It's not bad.
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10% in total or 10% higher than it was.
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10% and rising. So it's just a theory. AGI isn't like a real thing.
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So he was at 0% at one point. He said yes. Then like a nick came around him. Nick Morda, who's been saying for about 15 years now these robots are going to start taking over. They're going to be smart first they're going to start you up, they're going to beat you, they're going to kill you. Relax, dude. Okay. Bingo. Got a good graphic design team right here. Not for long. These guys are making good beats over here. Let's all relax here, okay? Oh yeah, they're flooding troll accounts on social media, maybe generating narratives that are very dangerous for society. Okay, we need to slow down, ease up on that. Yeah, we need to slow, we need to slow that down a little bit. Okay, we need to certainly slow down. Can we stop that? No, you can't stop that. They're able to fit in so easily actually because they, they're an AI that is actually able to read another AI that's trying to stop them. And every once in a while they just out joust them and then they're able to troll and build narratives, however one and go ahead and try to punish them. It's computer. It's out in the middle of nowhere. You can't punish them. Oh, that sounds problematic. Well, just wait though. Wait till they start feeling, wait till they start understanding and talking to each other and starting to really know how to guilt trip you into some stuff too and be able to do that. That's not possible. We'll unplug these. They're taking our jobs. They're drinking up all our water.
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B
Water.
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A
It's hell out there. We need to just unplug them.
- [144:59]
E
Too late. Too late. In open air.
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F
And you put that brain into one of these, like, robots that they build, then what happens? We're all dead. How's it work?
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A
Well, not me. I'm gonna be a. Okay, okay. Because I'm gonna call Jack Carr.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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C
Man.
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E
If he can save you for this. But.
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A
You weren't there.
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E
It's making a huge pivot with the AI and to a different space that we're all rhymes of corn.
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F
What's he trying to do?
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E
I don't want to get kicked off Tik Tok, but.
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A
Yeah, what's he doing? He's got AIs doing each other.
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E
We'll do some research.
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D
I've seen his.
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C
I'm sure that's all he's doing.
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D
It's real nice.
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A
What?
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F
What do you mean?
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All right, let's get to another. This all sounds like an overreaction.
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B
It does.
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That one felt. Felt genuine. It's a tough Thursday night. This one Stephen Reese at sre96. Hashtag. I don't want overreact, but Bob Sala is the best coach in the league right now, and it's not close. Who's on defense? Who cares? Don't matter. That said, Kittle being the best lineman on the team is disgusting. Okay, so a little bit we can work on, but yeah, I mean, Kittle always. Oh, yeah, that's always been part of. He's a road grader. I love Salah being happy again, though, and finding out that he's six' four. Certainly a little bit different every time they show him on camera. That defense, you know, no boast, obviously. No, Fred, they talk about the injuries and they're able to get some massive plays against this Atlanta Falcons team on prime time. What are your thoughts on the Niners defense as a whole?
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AJ I give Bob Saw a ton of credit. Like, whoever they got to plug and play, they seem to find a way to play together, play as a unit. Like they're disciplined. And Bob Sala is a gigantic human being. I the saw clip of he and Albrecht like reuniting on the field. And Jeff ulbrich is probably 6:1. He's not a small guy by any means. And Salah is just gigantic. Did Salah play in college or the.
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A
Pros had to have. Right. A six four. I assume that's a size that plays at.
- [146:55]
F
He's jacked. Absolutely jacked, too.
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B
He definitely played. Yeah, he definitely played college. I don't. I don't think it was D1, though.
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A
Probably Northern Michigan University. I know he has some ties there.
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D
Yeah, he did play at Northern Michigan.
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E
Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Wow.
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A
Wildcats. Oh, the Wildcats had a good team when he was there. That's in the Upper Peninsula as well. Oh, up there. Basically Canada. Up they've been doing long traveling forever. Cuz. Driving from the up just down to civilization is a long time. Right. Takes forever. From Lansing, you're looking at six, seven, eight hours.
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C
Jeez.
- [147:25]
E
Wonder he's talking about Ball stinks up there.
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A
What?
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C
They only play three down.
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E
Tell me a good player from Robert Salah.
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A
Bob Salah.
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E
Okay.
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F
Mari.
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A
Mari. Tom Izzo.
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C
Tom Izzo was Tim Allen.
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B
Tim Allen.
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E
Boom.
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B
Great running back.
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A
Al was a good running back. Al Borland was pretty good.
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B
Yeah.
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E
Okay.
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A
Wilson. They had a guy, Wilson who played on the outside.
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B
Yeah. Brad was a great athlete.
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A
Yes, he was. JTT was on there. Sp. Special themes. He was kicker and punter.
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E
Generational talent.
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A
Yes. You're starting to get it now. It sounds like Northern Michigan.
- [148:05]
E
Absolutely.
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A
They make good stuff up there. Kid Rock had a run up there.
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D
Bingo Bob.
- [148:11]
A
Yep, he did. That sounds fake. That doesn't sound. It's a rumor going around. At least that's what people are saying. JTT was down there. That what a run they had. Changing gears is the new one.
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B
Yeah.
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E
How's that? Anybody watching?
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C
Unbelievable.
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B
The best ever.
- [148:30]
A
Yeah, I. I'd say if I were.
- [148:32]
B
To watch it is probably what I'd say. I haven't seen it yet. I got the album.
- [148:36]
A
I saw seven minutes. I saw seven minutes. My wife was watching it. Okay. In her room. I walk into. She has like a setup room where it has all of her stuff, you know, and it's on a TV in the back. And I walk in, I go, good to see you. Come home from work. And I look over and I see Tim out Allen on the screen. I'm like, is this changing places thing? She goes, changing gears. This is Tim Allen's. I'm like, yes. Sit down for about four or five minutes. Classic Tim Allen. Felt like. Then Mackenzie came. Never pay attention to it again.
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B
Sure.
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D
Okay.
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A
So I think it was a good 5, 10 minutes. It's classic Tim Allen.
- [149:09]
B
Exactly. Loaded with laughs.
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A
Lot of. Lot of sitcom.
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B
Y. Fuller. Yep.
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A
So I assume it is worth a watch the other one that I watch. Chad Pars.
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B
Yes.
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A
Awesome suck. Is not. Is good.
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F
Is it for, like. Is it geared towards adults or kids?
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A
I'd say more adults. More adults.
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F
My kids want to watch it. My kids actually want to watch it.
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A
It's definitely adults, but it's not like. I wouldn't say it's like raunchy and it. But it. There is some corny. But it's not, you know, it's like they. They played it very well. I think I. I think they did very well. Well, with that.
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E
Funny.
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A
Yes, I think it's very funny. And he doesn't look horrendously unathletic. He actually looks athletic. So it is a. It's a good. It was good. Very well done. I was so scared to watch it. So scared.
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C
Yeah.
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A
I was scared to death. I love Glenn. Glenn's about to go save the world and all these movies he's doing. Chad Powers, the. Are you doing?
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F
Yeah. If he dropped back and looked like that one kid, we knew it was his career be over.
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A
Yeah. I was just like, why? What is it? Did the world need this? I don't. I don't know if the world needed this, brother. Like, I don't know if you need to take this. So very scared watching it. Not saying as like, a close friend of Glenn Powell, but I think we all kind of at this point know Glen Powell. And it's like you turn it on and literally for like, the first minute, you're like, come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. And then you start watching. You're like, okay, okay, okay. I like this. I like what they're doing. It's not. It's good. I think it's a good show.
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B
Okay.
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A
I've not watched all the episodes.
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C
Sure.
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A
But I would say good episode. They done good. If that makes sense.
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C
Yeah, for sure. I'm caught up right now. And. And like, you could make the argument. It starts corny as they're setting the entire show, but like, the second, third, and fourth episode where he's like, in the team, he's with everybody. It is hilarious. I actually genuinely think it is a great show. And I. And I hate watched it to start. I didn't even watch it. Like, I like Glenn Powell. I watched it like, let's see what this idiot did. And then while I'm watching it, I'm like, I shit. This is actually so funny.
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A
Good jokes.
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C
Great jokes in there. I don't know what the word is for it, so I'll just stop that thought. But the backup quarterback for. In the show, he is the guy. Once you see the backup quarterback, he pitches 100 on the black for the entire time he's on screen. So if you haven't got there yet, get there. And then if you do get there, which I strongly suggest suggests you should, you'll be hook, line. Sinker because he takes over.
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A
Congrats to them, the Mannings. Congrats to everybody doing that. That's awesome. All right, let's go to another overreaction. This one's from Outrun. Phoenix 69 at Lytton Dakota. Hashtag. I don't want to react, but the birds are back. Hurts 326 with three tuds. Devonte and AJ 100 plus. Siriano and Patulo are still big dumb ditchits. My talk other could come up with a better run scheme, but go ahead and give the Birds to Lombardi now. Okay, so people still pissed off at Petullo and Sirianni.
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B
This was kind of the only. I didn't see very many with Sirianni, but boy, Patula, I mean, it is a relentless attack on Patullo. They want him fired every single week kind of regard. I mean, it was basically what happened with Sirianni last year.
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A
Hertz goes for 326, three touchdowns.
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E
Perfect quarterback.
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A
Right. He rattles off how good the offense was.
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H
Yeah.
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A
And then at the very end, get this guy the out of here. That's classic Philly.
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B
It is.
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D
They ran for 45 yards is what they're mad about.
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C
Yeah.
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E
Saquant. I think 18 carries, 45 yards.
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F
The protection, though. The protection was great.
- [152:34]
A
Yeah. So they want. They want to throw when they're running.
- [152:38]
B
Yep.
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A
Now they want to run when they throw.
- [152:40]
B
Exactly.
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E
Yeah.
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A
Shout out to Philly.
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C
Still breaking Philly would be flow be smart enough to think like, hey, if we stop Saquon, there's a chance we. We have a better chance of winning.
- [152:49]
A
Or you think there's a chance B flow defensive coordinator for the Minnesota Vikings. One of the best defense coordinators in the NFL said, you know who's not going to wreck this game? Saquon Barkley. We're going to do what everybody else has done this season, which is completely target him. We're going to challenge Jaylen to win this thing with his arm. And he did debug.
- [153:04]
E
This is exactly how he had to win the Super Bowl. Saquan ran away, had a damn near MVP season, and then Spags geared up on the box and stopped the run game. And then he made huge plays. The one, the play that broke the game open was that Devonte Smith kind of dagger route or he threw the clear out route. So, yeah, I'm sure Philly fans probably feel like, hey, we just watched our team march down the season and win a Super bowl running the ball and dominate people that way. So maybe they, you know, Philly fans feel like they're educated and that's how they're going to win the Super Bowl. But when your quarterback goes out and has have a performance like this against a talented defense, it's not like he went and played the Raiders and put up a perfect quarterback rating. He did that against a good team. So yeah, but you're never gonna make everybody happy.
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A
All right, let's go to the next one. This one's from Normie at Epic. Normie, hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but everyone is talking about the Chiefs for blowing out bad teams while the Broncos are finding wins to wait. Now obviously that's ways to win. Bo Nich is the clutchest quarterback in history in Denver. Has gone from 1 in 6 and 1 score games last year to 4 and 2 this year. Broncos will win the division, not Kansas City. AJ AFC West. Is it the Broncos now after they have a 33 point fourth quarter?
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F
I'm not ready to crown the Broncos. You know, as, as the head of the division right now. I still like what the Chiefs are doing with how Patrick Mahomes is, but it's true, like they're finding ways to win no matter how poor it is. They Bo Nicks does seem like a guy that is like, hey, stick with me, stick with me. He's never going to give up on it. He's always going to fight till the end. And I know you guys talked about it earlier, but yeah, I do love the experience that Bo Nicks has. He played what, nine years in college. The guy has seen a lot of ball. And now with Sean Payton, I feel like they're a great team.
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A
Yeah, I agree. I like the Broncos a lot. And the defense obviously going to be heralded. The fact that the Giants were able to do what they did to this Broncos team in Denver on, you know, demarius Thomas statue day. Basically where they had everybody back in town. I think obviously as well wishes for the New York football Giants. But this Broncos team coming back and fighting in that fourth quarter like that, that's a beautiful thing. Team can feel that and ride that going forward. Maybe that was a little spark that they needed. Keep going. Five and two now over there in the AFC West. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? Is from Dougie Doug at Dougie D. Dougie Doug. Is that toilets there? Was that. What's that?
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F
It's a microphone. He's got on that.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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A
Oh, okay. It's not a toilet. It's not a toilet. Sorry. I thought that was maybe a toilet. You see the bowl down there and then the back? I thought maybe doggy dog. Does that say productions?
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B
You might Dog.
- [155:36]
A
Dougie Doug. All right, Dougie, let's do it. What do you think? Not a toilet. Doggy dog. Doggy D92. Click on.
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D
Yeah, it's a microphone. Oh, okay. So it says Dougie Doug. And then underneath it in those blue letters is wwe, NFL, aew.
- [156:02]
A
Okay. We like to cut a year. Gym. Doug, Doug, E, D. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but I have seen enough. The Vikings cannot win with JJ McCarthy, nor can they win with Carson Wentz. There's only one man that can win for this team. It's time for Kwesi to bring home Kirk Cousins. Hashtag skull. Now, Dougie D might be D Bones burner. We're not 100% sure because he would be tweeting about the same things as Dougie D. But I like this Dougie dude. Now, there was something mentioned earlier in the day by Boston Connor with Michael Pennock situation brewing. Maybe. Now, is Kirk down there?
- [156:38]
C
Yeah. Very similar to when Jaden Daniels got hurt against the Packers. It was late in the fourth quarter. Then he stayed in. Then Jane Daniels missed the next two weeks. I think it's the same exact thing. Pennix, he got rolled up on pretty bad late. He ended up staying. He stayed down. They stopped the game. He kind of limped around, stayed in the game. But Kirk, like, ran down the sideline. Looked like he was getting ready or at least preparing himself mentally with his mental buttons or whatever to keep his focus on, like he was going to go in. So I kind of think, like, at this point, whoever the Falcons are playing next week, you should probably bet on the other team now before the line changes. And that's just speculation in the fact that.
- [157:17]
A
What are you saying? You're saying that Kirk. If Kirk had to play, that the Falcons would be done, so.
- [157:21]
C
No, no, I don't know about that, but I know the line will move. I feel as though they'll definitely move that line, but I. I wouldn't be surprised if Kirk does go out there and ball and the Vikings maybe do take a shot on him.
- [157:32]
A
I completely forget about Kirk Cousins being down there. I mean, he's not even a story.
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B
No.
- [157:37]
A
They don't even really show him on a sideline.
- [157:38]
B
No.
- [157:39]
A
It's like not even talked about out there getting $180 million backup quarterback in Atlanta. Obviously we don't know what's going on. Michael Penix this is all just speculation here. About 13, 14 hours after the game game ends. But having a good backup quarterback is what the Atlanta Falcons said they wanted. That's why they kept them. They haven't traded them yet. Although all offseason there was a lot of conversation. Will that continue throughout the season for teams that get a little desperate, maybe at the QB position, maybe let Kirk walk out, let Sam Darnold walk out. I don't mind that on a Dougie D. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Zach Z4K. So cool at Zack clips. Hashtag I don't want over yet. But the Dallas Cowboys got the best offensive trio in the league. One solid trade for the defense and they're lifting that Lombardi in February. Also most valuable Prescott. Oh, MVP Rescott. MVP Rescott. MVP Rescott. MVP Rescott. Okay, on that note, George Pickens being on this team and seemingly wanting only but success for the Dallas Cowboys because I think he has a contract here currently happening and Dak being able to get him the ball and keep everybody happy. And George getting an opportunity to be the number one when CD was down and kind of earned his place in that locker room and his ability to still do his shit, you know, maybe double guns, maybe in somebody's face over their shoulder doesn't get called. Keeps him moving. That's George Pickens football. He is special talent. CD back. They got weapons everywhere with first Ferguson.
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F
AJ Yeah, they got weapons. And just look at these. Look at what a ball like Dak just. He's so dialed in right now, and I feel like the O line's doing a good job as well. Like we said, if their defense can keep up and catch up a little bit. Yeah, the Dallas Cowboys, I think our team you're gonna have to worry about late in the year.
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A
George Pickens leading the parade into the end zone. They're running backwards. MVP Rescott is putting it all over the yard. Shotty's handling it beautifully as well. D. But what a. What a trio for old buddy to call the best in the league.
- [159:36]
E
Yeah. Shot. He's doing a great job. And I'm not sure who who mentioned it about it. Javante Williams. That you, con man? He's having an unbelievable year. But this year I don't think so. But they do have picks and we know the Dallas Cowboys, whatever you think about their trades and extensions, they do draft well and they can find talent. So if they can get some picks next year, get some guys healthy flutes, maybe another year in this defense, I do think the Cowboys will be a team to be reckoned with.
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Who says we don't use those picks right now? Right now. Who says we don't come back and get a couple more plays? You know five players better than one player. We got who we got. They got Micah. We tied. Next question. Jerry Jones. What a weapon. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Jack Dell Dust Up. As we all know, take on a quote from former DC Jack Del Rio at Kevcoms fan. I believe he's talking about the commanders. Hashtag I don't want to overreact but the cardiac commanders have suffered a full blown heart attack and they're dead. 3 and 4 staring down 3 and 7. JD5 is banged up. Walmart greeters a wide receiver. Everyone's 45 years old. Defense regularly getting blown out like Bonnie. Jeez. It may be a commando over situation. It's a porn star on the air right there. Who. Who Jack Del Dust up was referring to. Commanders have never fared well against Dak Prescott.
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B
No.
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A
So maybe don't have full panic. Don't love Daniels limping off there. Don't love any of that.
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C
Look bad.
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A
The cardiac commanders. I. That looks nasty.
- [161:15]
E
Yeah, I was. I felt good about him actually lifting off and walking off. Yeah. Because when it initially happened I'm like, oh, this might be one of those you don't even want to watch the replay of.
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But hip too, maybe.
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Yeah, I was thinking hip. Then he went to grab the hammy walking off here. So I'm like, okay, that could be weird. But hopefully, hopefully he's good. He walked off. I think he didn't he jog into the locker room or something like that?
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A
I don't know. I did not see that.
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Okay, well, he was on his own whenever you could put your own pressure on. You're not getting helped off like that or in the cart. That's a good sign. But yeah, they are banged up. They are old. They are all, all those things for sure.
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A
Well T's and peas positive vibes to Jaden Daniels and the Commanders fans. Might still be in it a little bit. Might still be. Might still be in a little bit.
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B
Yeah, maybe.
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A
Maybe they're not just great all of a sudden.
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B
Yeah.
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Last year was like they're great all of a sudden. Yeah, maybe it might take a little bit.
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C
You almost don't want your QB to be that good the first year because then you're just setting yourself up for a bad second year.
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But you Want them to be good.
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C
Though, but not that good, so it's weird.
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A
I'll tell you what. You want him to be buried. You want him to play, though?
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B
Definitely need to do home to play.
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Because what Anthony Richardson play. He played three dimes three games or something. Yeah, maybe he had that fadeaway throw.
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D
Well, you got Flacco.
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And we got Danny Dimes. Yeah.
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C
Everybody wins.
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F
What a pickup.
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The title. A whole new world. We're best team in the NFL. That's so much fun to be here right now.
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G
It is.
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A
Instead of just having an ass team.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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B
And he's worth $65 million and you're paying him.
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A
You know, let's not be public. 65.
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B
70, right.
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C
75 is the greatest offense in the history of football. $70 million.
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A
Let's not be publicly negotiated.
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B
Well, that.
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F
That's the toughest higher move we get to.
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B
You got to enjoy this year.
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A
Let's just enjoy boy, what we have.
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D
Better sign him right now.
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C
He's already been.
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D
Right now things get out of control.
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A
Yeah. Let's not even think about letting him touch that free agent. No, because we. We know that he's better with us, and he knows he's. He's better with us. So let's just go ahead and shake these hands and move forward now. That's first big decision here from the big three.
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B
Yeah.
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A
On how that worked when.
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D
How 58 million.
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A
The whole. But let's not publicly negotiate steel. It's good. He might say 25.
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B
He might. He might as basically buy New York.
- [163:36]
A
Let's build this team up here. Let's keep the boys. Let's win a lot here. You give me 40 million. 35. 40 million bucks I can buy what, every house?
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B
Yeah.
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A
In Indiana. I can live like Smoke's house.
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F
Get Smoke's old house.
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A
Boom. Go down there and get to Cabela's ranch. And then you can also. Offensive line, we could pay offensive line, we can keep the boy boys in front of me. We can keep the weapons. We got a lot of them. Yeah. Michael Pittman, they paid. Pierce is up. Now down's about to be up. Obviously, J.T. got it. He's gonna be up a deal that he. I don't love the way he went about getting it a couple years ago after they were ass.
- [164:08]
E
But anyways, it'd be time for another one.
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A
Exactly. So that's what I'm saying. And then on defensive side, we got names everywhere.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. It's like Danny Dimes, you know. Hey, listen, I hope he gets every Single dollar. And he wants. That's what I want. I'm just wondering if maybe he wants to win a lot. We could win a lot, I think. Especially if you could pay a bunch of people. Pittsburgh Steelers. Aaron Rodgers making 10 million bucks right now. He's 41. He's already made 200 million. So I'm not saying I don't want to be counting pockets or anything like that, which I kind of just did. But it's like, Danny Dimes, you know, you've been paid already. You got a lot of money.
- [164:43]
F
Give him a discount. Give me like 48 a year. Maybe he'll give him a discount.
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A
I think we go right there. If he was to do that, I think that would be an immediate nothing to sign. Deal. Let's go ahead and move on. How long you want that deal for? Four years. Perfect. Sweet. We'll see you in three after we win two Super Bowls, because we're about to pay a bunch of people around us. I'm very excited for the Colts right now.
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E
Oh, yeah.
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A
But if they got to drop a 60 piece on a quarterback, I mean, that's going to change a lot of things in a lot of places.
- [165:07]
E
I mean, we've seen what it's like on the other side of that. We see. We saw Quentin Nelson. Come on, say I'm. I'm good and pissed off of snapping blocking for another quarterback every year.
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A
I agree. What I'm saying is Danny Dimes got a lot of leverage.
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B
He does.
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A
He does well. And I'm excited to see what happens.
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F
If he's your guy, though, if you're. If the Colts know, like, hey, this is our dude. You got to pay him whatever it takes.
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A
Literally. That is literally the case. That's what I'm saying here. You know, let's look at all things. Let's look at all things while we're doing this. And Danny Dimes, maybe somebody gives him a. Maybe give a him a couple bars. Done.
- [165:39]
B
Yeah, Car dealership or something.
- [165:40]
A
Maybe give a couple cars. Let's do a John Elway move around here. Let's keep this guy around town. Let's keep this guy around town. All right. And last one here from Aaron Shelby. Life is good. Yes, it is. Aaron Hashtag. I don't know of reacts, but Drake May and Daniel Jones are the incarnates of Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. These are spinning like multiple time MVPs. Not to mention their cash cows. All Goblers hail Draco and Donnie Dimes. Pat's Colts, AFC Championship game. T. B O D Draco is a great name by Aaron Shelby, and life is very good over here. Now, has Drake been a covering machine? Has that been Draco's M.O.
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C
Yeah, Draco's just not happy. But no, he definitely. They've been very, very good. The, the only difference between the two is it's Drake May's second year and you guys have to pay Danny Downs $50 million. So that's just the only difference.
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A
What is Drake May make? What are those rookie contracts?
- [166:40]
C
Oh, he's got, I think eight a year maybe.
- [166:43]
A
That's crazy.
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C
At most.
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A
And then like year four or five, it's 20 million or something like that, 25 million or something like that. I think as it grows. He's unbelievable, this guy. He's outrageous.
- [166:53]
E
So good.
- [166:53]
A
Legitimately outrageous. Watching him play and then listening to football people talk about his decision. That was a great catch. Yeah, Hooper, that was a. That's. Who's that?
- [167:01]
C
That's Austin Hooper, second string title dog.
- [167:03]
A
Friend of the program. Friend of the program. Love Austin Hooper. Congrats to him making that massive play right there. But it's like listening to football people talk about. Drake May has been fun. Like, yeah, the way he's breaking down defense and he sees things before snap, post, snap, and it's like. And he has the coolest vibe about him. Like, he has this vibe about him that is like the moxie is not the same. Same as Jackson Dart, obviously, but it's certainly in there. And VRA seems like the perfect head coach for him.
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F
AJ Yeah, I watched all the clips of Raves, you know, like dapping everybody up on the way into the locker room. Feels like Raves has everything going in the right direction. And I mean, Drake May, to his credit, he dongs the back of his head off the turf. You know, maybe pops in the tent for a quick second, tells him, I got a little stinger or something, I'm okay. Comes back in and still plays very well. So we know he's tough as nails.
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A
He takes a lot of shots, head to grind, and it's. I mean, that's a hell of a whip. And he's still up, though. I don't think you saw him ever out.
- [167:56]
F
But they certainly shake your head once they're taking you off. That's the thing when you shake your head.
- [167:59]
A
Yeah, they certainly want to take a look at this as they want. But he, he's been taking these shots a lot and he led North Carolina in rushing, so, like, he's used to getting tackled. That is everything you Fear, though. Whenever it comes to a quarterback being tackled, he went into the tent, they tested him, he comes out, plays even more. It's like, this guy's special. Draco Dra is special.
- [168:21]
E
Everything you want.
- [168:23]
A
So if he plays for another 10 years, you guys be pumped, right? 10.
- [168:26]
C
I mean, we got 15 with this kid, and we will win a Super bowl with him in variable.
- [168:31]
A
I like that. If Danny diamond plays another 10 years here, which is possible, I think we're very, very possible, he's going to make a lot of money out here.
- [168:37]
E
It could be like the good old days. It will be AFC championship every couple years.
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A
Patriots coach Danny Dimes putting old buddy in a spot, too. Whenever he said, what did we not know maybe about your team? He goes, obviously he didn't know much or right to the guy's face, I'm like, dimes. That's not a Danny Dimes answer. I like that. That just. I like that. Yeah, let's go ahead and run this.
- [168:59]
C
You care. But those of us on the outside, I think, are a little surprised just.
- [169:03]
A
How well this team is playing to start the season.
- [169:05]
F
Season.
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A
What do we need to know about.
- [169:07]
C
This group that maybe we didn't know.
- [169:09]
A
Going into the year? I mean, I don't know. It sounds like. Sounds like y' all didn't know much, but we're just gonna keep going, keep working, and.
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C
And we have a lot of confidence.
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D
I think we got a lot of.
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C
Good players, guys who work hard and.
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D
Do the right things.
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A
Having Washburn top five hair on TV every time going, love that he even said us. So Evan was like, I gotta own up to this in a moment. And Danny Dimes had the Barry or high road? Barry. High road, high road, high road, high road, Barry. High road, high road, high road. We got a lot of good. That's what we want. That's what we need. And tonight we got two Monday night football games to enjoy, and we're back here tomorrow. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Ty, great work on the overreactions. All right, Rushmore on X. Tomorrow morning, we got a dunkers with Shaquille o', Neal, Reggie Miller, Ari and Ben. And I don't know if Reggie and Shaq had some veno or something before the episode, but they were wide open in there.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And it is spectacular, especially to launch the NBA season. I think we have Steve Nash on tomorrow, chitchatting at the NBA as well. Yeah, big day tomorrow. So we're pumped about it. Maybe Enjoy a sweet, tropical, spicy Devil's Reserve.
- [170:18]
D
Maybe that's what they were drinking before.
- [170:20]
A
I doubt it. But there's a chance they were diving into this green bear bottle of fun. Oh, yeah. Which you could certainly get into as well. All right. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. I can't wait for tomorrow, boys. Hell yeah.
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F
I can't wait for tonight. Two good ones tonight.
- [170:40]
A
Man. I can't wait for right now.
- [170:42]
E
Hell yeah.
- [170:43]
F
That is you, ball.
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A
Ladies and gentlemen, yesterday was a birthday for somebody. Happy birthday to the man who puts talk in TikTok. Happy birthday to the man who puts talk and doesn't talk. Happy birthday to the man who claps his feet. Go on. You gotta get to the other side.
- [171:07]
C
Still boozed up.
- [171:08]
A
Gotta get to the other side. Happy birthday to the man who claps his feet Six miles at a time on the treadmill every single day after work. Happy birthday to Casey. He's in there? Yeah, he's in there. He's in there. Do we have that camera still set up? No. Talk. Need you to come out here. Talk. Need you.
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C
Come on, talk.
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A
Need you to come out of your. Talk. Who's Casey?
- [171:35]
B
What do you mean, tael you.
- [171:38]
A
What do you mean? You don't know Casey? This is this like. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.
- [171:46]
C
You move a little bit.
- [171:48]
E
Come on.
- [171:49]
A
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday, dear Talk. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday.
- [172:05]
D
Talk.
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A
Appreciate you, man. Great work, brother. You're killing it for us. If you want to give him him a birthday gift, just watch Rushmore next tomorrow.
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B
Boom.
- [172:15]
E
Hell yeah.
- [172:15]
A
Okay. Amen. He's worked his ass off on that thing. Guy might not have slept in the last four years, but he'll caption every video and he'll cut everyone. He has two headphones sets going at the same time. One's listening to live show, one's listening to the edit that he's doing. And then his brain is just somehow somewhere else. We don't really understand how he operates, but we respect the out of him. This is a show that he edited Rushmore on X out tomorrow. Dunkers. Tomorrow morning. It's great. It's great. Easy. Listen. Lot of storytelling. It's good shit. This show is really good. We hope you enjoy it. We're lucky to be a part of it. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. Happy birthday Talk. One, two, three. Team. Bye.
- [172:55]
F
Bye.
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A
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