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PMS 2.0 1438 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 8 Recap, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Dan Orlovsky, Ole Miss Head Coach Lane Kiffin and QB Trinidad Chambliss, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this massive overreaction. Monday, October 27, 2025. This program begins now. Football is fabulous, isn't it? Until you have a slate like yesterday, that is certainly not desirable. Now, there was obviously a close game. The rest of the slate was absolute shite. Now that's good news if you're on the winning side. Terrible news if you're on the losing side. And tonight, don't look now. Eleven and a half point SP spread we're staring at. So will this be the week of blowouts? We shall see the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Congrats to you boys. Big wins yesterday.
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B
Thank you.
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A
You too as well. Thank you. Thank you. Let's go to 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys AP done. Oh, no.
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C
Sorry.
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A
We have shite uniforms on Sunday Night Football. Bret Michaels didn't bring his A game. Not what we said. Some people that were there said they couldn't hear him as good throughout the entire stadium. So maybe that shifted the momentum at halftime to what it bec. But the Pittsburgh Steelers lose to the Green Bay packers in the Aaron Rodgers Bowl. Although Ackershire certainly had the environment of a massive game, the field looked much worse than it seemed to have played last night. But the game ends with the Green Bay packers getting a huge win over the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's go to a Pittsburgh Steelers fan. One half of the Hammer. Dad. Cowboys AP Tone. Tone. How's life right now? Everything okay over there after a primetime loss? Yep, yep.
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C
No, no, no, it's not all right. I wish I was in your guys spot, you know, celebrating blowout wins and happy. But no, it was another, another prime time loss and a sleepless night and I'm starting the week on a. On a bad foot and just not good.
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A
Okay. Yeah, well, you're not the only one. I think there's a lot of people in Pittsburgh saying this is exactly who we've been for the past 10 years. Is exactly who we've been for the past 10 years. We were sold a brand new bill of goods here because Aaron Rodgers coming in here and Aaron obviously a hall of Famer and incredible he thing. But now if it's not the offense, what happened to the defense? It feels like for the last eight, nine years, since seven retired, there's never really been hope that you could win a Super bowl with the team that's on the field, but you could certainly win games which the Pittsburgh Steelers have done. Can you win the big one here's? A big one in the middle of the season and Tucker Craft goes bananas for the Green Bay packers and Jordan Love obviously spins it. But the defense for Green Bay does enough and for Pittsburgh side, the defense seemingly the problem throughout the entirety of the season on display last night or is it just, hey, you played a good Green Bay packers game?
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C
No, I wish it was just. I believe that's four games now that they've let up 30 points this season, which hasn't happened since 2003, I believe 2004, right before we got the the honor of drafting one seven Ben Roethlisberger. So the defense is horrendous. They basically took the same game plan as the Bengals and said, hey, we're not going to give the D line any chance to get to the quarterback. We're going to throw short stuff. And then the Steelers don't know how to tackle 235 yards after catch. I believe at one point of Jordan Love's 315 yards. So a bit of insanity there that.
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Was at one point. It ended with 244 yards after contact or catch in total versus packers, most in any regular season game. Under Mike Tomlin. His last two games, Joey Flack and Jordan Love, Pittsburgh has lodged 702 passing yards with six touchdowns and only two sacks on 86 drop backs. That's from Hembo. We appreciate the hell out of him. Let's go to nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler here. Obviously make a living in a secondary. Is that all tackling like what's going on with the Pittsburgh Steelers right now?
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D
Yeah, whenever you see all that yak, it's definitely bad tackling, bad coverage. And also Jordan Love just being hot. You know, 20 straight completions on his on the way to throwing for 360 yards and it wasn't a bunch of dink and dunks, you know, screens or little short routes like he was actually throwing up there, putting the balls kind of in harm's way and his receivers are making plays. Tucker Kraft obviously had a phenomenal night on national tight end day. And then Watson, I mean Christian Watson made his presence felt all night long. Coming back after a week 18 ACLT. I believe he's a deep threat, has been since stepping into the National Football League league. He was a big threat just all around. Love was feeling it, man, and I'm sure it meant a ton to him going against his predecessor on the other sideline.
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But he showed a play right there. And Jordan Love, you know, showing that gunslinger mentality that he certainly has just like some of the Green Bay packers quarterback times of the past. Ty, whenever you're watching this packers team, does this get you excited for a big time win like this? Lafleur also seemingly handled the entire moment perfectly. Him and Aaron Rodgers had their moment beforehand. Jordan Love, you talk about his relationship with Aaron Rodgers. Aaron said to Chris Collinsworth, I believe that normally they text back and forth. This week they did not talk to each other. The only time they talked in pregame was at the captain's coin toss as well. Felt like they were both pretty locked in. Jordan Love needed it. Do you think, you think Jordan Love need. Not that it would make or break his entire thing. That was a big one though. I think for Jordan Love Schmidt.
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B
Yeah, massive. Because even really, I mean, you know, there was some chatter about him, but coming in it was all about Rodgers playing his former team. It really, there really wasn't that much of like, hey, Jordan Love quietly is having a very good year and this would be a massive notch in his belt. But this is kind of like, you know, he, he's been a little inconsistent and that's what packers fans like. They've seen glimpses of this and that's why it's like last night for him to complete 20 consecutive passes and just take the game over. Yeah, I mean this is, this is the team we saw the first couple weeks, I think last night, big moment, big stage and they, and you know, it brought it out in them but you know it's, it's same deal. They didn't look good in the first half. That's what we were saying. You know, I might don't want to say it, but Brett Michaels may have single handedly lost the Steelers the game going into halftime after the, after the packers, you know, missed the field goal. McManus. I don't know what's going on there. He might still have something with his.
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A
Yeah. 57 short. That's not McMahon. No, no, that's not him.
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B
And then he missed another one. Yeah, exactly.
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A
Yeah. Which having a. Yeah, right.
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B
So we'll see. But after, after that, going into the half, I was like, oh boy, this, this thing could get ugly quick. And luckily, you know, when the packers have needed to turn it on this year in, in moments like that, they've done that. And yeah, Love was just tremendous. And this defense, you know, just week after week, I mean they, they did enough last night, but they played so good in the second half. Micah, Rashawn, Gary. So yeah, as opposed to the last couple weeks when I felt woke up on Monday morning and being like, man, I just don't know about this team. Like I. I feel very good today. This is the team I saw you're well first two weeks.
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Yeah. These are the temperature gauging games.
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B
Right.
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You know, whenever it's some other team that you expect to be around in the end you would like to see where your team is at right now. A lot of football left obviously. And shout out to Billy Bones, Pittsburgh Steeler die hard fan there with the video of Brett Micha. The halftime also said maybe the audio wasn't perfect which is why you're talking about it. The inserts wanted to sing along with Brett.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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They wanted to get after it with Brett and maybe the echo maybe where he was at, whatever the case wasn't perfect for all parties in the building. Would it ever be. And Brett Michaels still brought it. I saw him twirling terrible tile too. He was getting after it. So I don't think it's on him like you try to make it out to be. But it was certainly a different half in the second one. Go ahead, comment.
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E
Did you get that jacket from Brett Michaels? Where that, where that come from?
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A
I'll tell you what, I think Brett Michaels, a man of style would certainly maybe wear this jacket here. This from NFL Mexico. Make them if we post about this right here. Yeah. NFL Mexico was on the field yesterday, the loud house, you know, watching the Indianapolis Colts do what the Indianapolis Colts have been doing this season to the Tennessee Titans, which we'll talk more about here. And Raul from NFL Mexico, who we met down at Super Bowl Radio Row if you do recall, was there. He was on site and I was chit chatting with some folks. There's always like a reunion before the games where our suite is. The view that we had of Jonathan Taylor down that sideline. That was. That was literally unbelievable.
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E
Brian Atch.
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Oh, no, no, away.
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B
Oh.
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So watching his. Literally just watching his toes from where ours. Yeah. So we're right down. We're literally on the other side. I'm watching right down that side. Like actually right down that sideline. I have no idea how he stayed in his little toes. I don't know. And he's looking down while he's doing it. That would naturally drive you normally your head and eyes go a certain way. He is outrageous. This guy is outrageous. This was his second. He would have a third obviously another one. This is only his 80 yard run. This guy absolutely outrageous. But I'm watching it from where we're at though. A lot of talking before the game. How you doing? How you doing? 4:00 clock game too. A lot of people coming through there earlier, yada, yada, yada. Then the NFL Mexico guy comes bang. How you doing? Hands. He said, we're very appreciative of the conversation we had. Super Bowl. You were very kind to us or something like that. We have a few of these jackets. We'd like to issue one. I've never seen a cooler jacket in my life.
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E
That's so sweet.
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A
Can I see the back?
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D
I got something in the back.
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A
Nawabla. Okay, no problem. You know, that's cool.
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D
Yeah, I know what that means.
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Until death, I believe is what it means.
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D
Locked in. Yep.
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Yeah. Viva la raza. Obviously, Eddie Guerrero, Rey Mysterio and lwo. And then Hasta la muerte. Until death, dude.
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F
Yep.
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A
I don't know if I'll be able to wear it every day until then because it is very hot.
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B
Sure.
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Yeah, it's very hot.
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B
Oh, man, it looks cool.
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Yeah. And it's not a button either. It's a zip.
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B
Oh, okay.
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C
Oh, that's sick.
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Yeah.
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D
Yeah.
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So this thing can get real hot if you need.
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C
I also think Dia de los Muertos is coming up, so if you want to wear it for that too.
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Is that Cinco de Mayo? Oh, okay. I. I didn't know. I. I mean, muchas gracias. I'm trying my best. I don't know. I did say muchos gracias to me amigo Raul. And I'd like to continue that. This is one of the coolest things I've ever received. Thank you for this. And shout to the game growing internationally. And on that note, it's time for us to do our first 15. Now remember, this first 15 driven by Ram Ram trucks is certainly aiming to be a 15 minute segment. Okay. Where we take the top five headlines coming out of the NFL Sunday slate and we chase chat about him. But it's not first 15 minutes necessarily. Please put the clock up here. It's not necessarily the first 15 minutes. It's first 15 plays with the goal to be right in 15 minutes. Last week was 42 minutes close.
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B
We're getting better.
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Okay.
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B
Kind of start down a little bit.
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Well, touchdown drive. Hey, this was like Texans Niners methodical. This was. That's the possession that we had. You know that. Which by the way, they're saying record breaking possession time since like 2006. Texans absolutely dominated the 40 90ers in that entirety. So we're going to try to get through these and last week was the first time we mentioned how long it was. And we went longer than we've ever gone before. Sure. So let's just, let's try to keep this one tidy.
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E
Tidy, tidy.
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F
Here we go.
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Tidy on three. One, two, three. Tidy. Okay, here we go. Let's start with number five. Headline, start the clock. An absolute shite Sunday. Slate. Listen, we're just going to read through the scores here, okay, we're just going to read through the scores. 38, 14, 35, 25, 32, 13, 44, 24, 30, 16, 40 to 9, 26, 15, 23, 3, 38, 20, 34, 10. And then in a barn burner, okay, The jets win 39, 38 over the Bengals. Okay, so that's the only game that was within one square. Everything else, absolute shite across the board. And don't look now, As I mentioned, 11 and a half points spread tonight.
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B
Yeah.
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Marcus Mariota traveling into the kingdom, in the Chief's kingdom as an 11.5 point dog. Now, we believe that this commander's team is on a good trajectory. We like what Washington's doing, we appreciate what the commanders are doing. Cliff Kingsbury is an absolute dog. The Chiefs is better than the Chiefs have been and they're at home. And we all believe that they're probably going to win the game. And if it leads, if it's anything like what yesterday was, this might be a 35 point game. Yeah, we didn't know that the NFL could produce this. We didn't know that every single game could be a blowout. We started watching those games yesterday and it's like you got quad box on and then you got red zone channel. You're like, I must be missing some games, where are these at? And you just see shite score, shite score, shite score. And it's like, well, modern NFL, there is no such thing as a shite score. Everybody can come back. They didn't. Everybody was dead early. This thing was over quick. The NFL obviously can't thrive off of this. But these are nice reminders every once in a while that any given Sunday, if you don't show up, you can get your ass beat.
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Debuff. Yeah. You just mentioned this is the complete opposite of what the NFL is on a week to week basis. Typically it comes down, it's a one possession game, it's a two minute drive, you know, kicking a field goal, scoring a touchdown down, something like that. But just a bunch of blowouts. Probably expected the Colts, Titans to be a blowout. I expect a Much better game with the Broncos Cowboys. And then the Dolphins, surprisingly beat the out of the Falcons. So, yeah, just a surprising slate all around.
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C
Yeah, we always say on any given Sunday, there's a lot of teams on this. On in this league right now who are either bad or on any given Sunday, are capable of laying an egg for sure.
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Well, that's. So we played the Pittsburgh Steelers and got blown out a couple times whenever we were on the Indianapolis Colts.
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E
Good days.
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And those are good days for you, for sure. It's a nice reminder whenever you ask, because we had a good team, and you just get killed. And it's like you ask the coaches around those times or the players around those times, like the OGs, it's like, yeah, this could happen any week. You just get a couple guys that don't show up and play good at a couple of positions. That's what the NFL is. I think that's what, like, people think these teams are shite. So people get into the conversation, you know, what? Saints, Saints would lose to Ohio State, Indiana would be able to beat the Saints or something like that. People start saying that type of stuff, especially whenever teams are terrible, then there's always a reminder like, hey, these are professional athletes getting paid a professional check to play football. And every once in a while, the universe comes together and you can be great. And every once in a while, the universe comes together and says, you guys suck today. And that can certainly happen to any team.
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D
And as soon as you think you got it figured out, like, even as fans are on the outside looking in, I thought I knew who the Falcons were at this point. Okay, maybe they're a much better team. Even the Steelers, I thought the Steelers would show up. The Cowboys, we knew their defense was absolute shite, but I thought they could at least put up points offensively and kind of getting a shootout with the Broncos. So, yeah, a lot of question marks still next to a lot of these teams up there.
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Staff from Hembo and ESPN research, there's only been one game decided by single digits on Sunday. Sunday was the first day with one or zero games decided by single digits since December 20, 1970.
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E
Some merchant shite indeed. Good addition, dude.
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That's almost Austin Moore. Yeah, it's almost Austin Muerte, dude. Okay, so it was shite indeed, says Hembo. Which we agree. Shite indeed. I didn't read the 1970 part of that stat. I just did the whole, that's a long time of football not being shite. We were there for it.
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B
Yeah.
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E
Hell yeah.
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Hey, we lived through it.
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D
Yep.
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Yep, Covid.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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Okay. I was of the age, you know, 2001. Lived through that.
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B
Sure.
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Worst football game of all time. Worst football Sunday of all time. Basically, we were a part of that for the NFL.
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B
Well. And the real kicker is, you know, typically, if we have a shite slate, there's still, like, maybe one or two games where they'll at least be close, you know, going down the stretch. I mean, Jets, Bengals, like that. That. That was just like a. Hey, you have red zone. I'm like, oh, wow. Hey, jets are starting to come back a little bit. Like, I wasn't paying any attention to that game. And it turns out to be the best game of the day.
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Shout out. There's a lot of potential, you know, spiritual stuff with that particular game, too. For jets legend Nick Mangold passing away. We would like to send our condolences and positive prayers and vibes, obviously, to his family. He and A.J. hawk were like, I think, best friends since they're kids. Same high school, obviously. Roommates at Ohio State. So we've learned a lot about Nick Bengal. Got to know him a lot. Absolute legend of a human. Everything you hear about him, just know that it's in every aspect of his. Oh, this guy was a great teammate. Oh, this guy's a great business partner. Oh, this guy's a great dad. This guy's a great husband. This guy's a great. Everything about him was great. We had a chance to catch up with him a couple weeks ago when everything was going on, and I was trying to get some more information on how we could help, maybe on the program, and just chatting with him, still talking shit, still quick. The beard was still good. I mean, they just. You're talking utter surprise here. Society has lost a great man. So the jets getting a huge win on that day was cool. That was, like, cool to see. That was. Now, I don't think anybody was expecting a 39, 38 win, but that being the only game that was really in, it stinks for the NFL. But, boy, if you're on one of those winning teams. Let's enjoy. Yeah, let's enjoy these because, you know, most games, very scary. Ah, we going to lose this? Are we going to win? Just being able to about third quarter to say, we're way better in this game. Let's go ahead and enjoy this little pressure. Starters, you had to call the game for the Colts, Titans, I assume you did a great job. I haven't gone back and listened to it, but the boys we had an ear on it so we could pull any clips for it. You did a great job on this that you had to work that entire game, you know, all the way down to the end. We were having a good time this week. Just know we were enjoying the hell out of this particular game. And although many would say this game was shite, as a Colts fan, I'd like to let you know it was fantastic watching that man do his thing. All right, let's go to the number four headline here. Now, listen, I like that there's a new holiday. Anytime we can create something to celebrate something, I'm with it. Okay? So people that push against some of these things that happen. Oh, it's too gimmicky. It's too whatever. Like the super duper cup that the NBA put in in the middle of the thing. Commissioner cup or whatever the hell it is. No, the NBA Cup. NBA Cup, Yeah, sorry. The NBA Cup. They put it in the middle of the season. Everybody's like, this is a gimmick. It's like, who cares? We're celebrating. We're giving out trophies. I think they shouldn't be hanging the banners next to the other banners, but we should still enjoy it. So when National Tight Ends Day was created by this tight end university, boys who are trying to absolutely build a brand of what their position is, which are dogs across the board. You got to be tough enough to block. You got to be athletic enough to be able to get open and catch the ball. And, oh, yeah, normally going to have to be the mentality center for your entire team. This tight end position is insane, especially with the amount of talent that there is. And there's a National Tight Ends Day that should be celebrated. And it feels like defensive coordinators should understand the day is existing as well. I know the NFL puts out tweets and puts out shirts and like that. I think defensive coordinators need to have somebody on the. On the horn saying, hey, what's going on this weekend? Oh, it's National Tight Ends Day. Do you think offense coordinators are going to target tight ends a little bit more because of that defense coordinator saying, no. Everybody else around going, yeah, tight ends one off yesterday. And it feels like every year on National Tight Ends Day, tight ends go crazy. Tucker Craft was the main event. He went absolutely absurd. What is the Tucker Craft story? He grew up on a Native American reservation.
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Yeah, correct. In South Dakota. Grew up on the reservation and actually was named an honorary member of the tribe for, you know, because obviously lived on it through high school and everything. But yeah, he's an absolute dog.
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Yes, he is. He did a kip up last night on that sod that was unbelievable. Runs people over. He's like ultimate warrior. He just. And it seems like he gets their ropes against the ball. It's just like this as well. I couldn't even fathom they were saying nine on nine football or something like that. Imagine playing basketball. Imagine anything. Now granted, there's probably. That was filthy.
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Yeah.
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Athlete, the amount of explosivity that that requires there.
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He did not push off his hands either.
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Yes, he did.
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They were just there. If you see that other angle from. He didn't push. He didn't put.
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Oh, it's just a balance, you say.
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Yeah, he didn't push.
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Okay. Because humans like me, even on a springy floor, I need to use hands to shoot myself up.
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B
Sure.
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Not athletic enough. You're saying he just wanted to see where he was, maybe holding the ground down. Actually, I don't know if you did.
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It without their hands.
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A
Oh, what's that?
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I didn't know humans did that without their hands.
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Drew McIntyre actually, just from back, no hands, just kicks himself all the way.
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Calculated, cerebral.
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But.
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But whatever it takes. That's same thing. But all these tight ends go absolutely crazy. I mean, you go through Goddard had two touchdowns, then you got George Kittle, Tongs, Hunter Henry and joku, Harold Fannin Jr. Mason Taylor, Gunner Helm, Charlie Caller. And then let's not even forget Tyler Warren exists. Didn't score a touchdown on national tight ends day. Kind of screwed Gumpy over on a touchdown parlay. Gumpy was refusing to have a good time because Tyler Warren didn't get any end zone early. I said, you're a part of the problem, Gumpy, not a part of the solution here. Should have cashed out. Whenever it was a $25 bet for 900 bucks, you decided to continue to run. That's. That is not on Tyler Warren. Tyler Warren's an absolute dog, as are all of these tight ends. Breeze hall throws an incredible touchdown here as we're Moss and folks with Mason Taylor. But dbuts, the position is difficult. I know nickel obviously the third corner in which is now a part of basically every defensive starting path. Normally have to square off against tight ends. When did the tight end position transition into these monsters that they are in today's game? Start to happen. And what did defenses try to do to combat it?
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D
I mean Antonio Gates kind of revolutionized it, I would say in our age group. You know, Winslow before that as a charger, tight End. But yeah, Gronk was kind of like the MO. He was the hybrid, which kind of Kittle is great blocker and then also great receiver. Then Travis Kelce became like, hey, almost like a bonus wide receiver. But yeah, they're a matchup problem. They're just so big. They're so athletic and because of their range, their catch range, their radius, they're always open even when the DB or linebacker's on them. They can just box you out and go up there and get a rebound. They are just phenomenal talents. And not to mention mentioned on Thursday night, Ronde Gaston Jr. He, he balled out for the Chargers as well, which another Dolphin legend, son, that we could have drafted just like Mason Taylor, but neither here nor there.
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A
Hunter Henry is like the pillar of the Patriots. Is he the longest tenured New England Patriot up there?
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E
It feels like that's a good question. Probably. But I mean, even on that list of rookies like Mason Taylor debut just mentioned, he won the game for the Jets. Breece hall threw the touchdown. Like Mason Taylor stepped up in the biggest moment. And then if there is one bright spot of the that shite Tennessee Titans team, it's Gunner Helm. Gunner Helm has been really good for them too. So.
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A
And Cam War.
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E
Yeah, and Cam Warton. And then also Harold Fannin Jr. For the Browns. He was the only guy making plays for Cleveland yesterday. Like, it's impressive these young tight ends coming in.
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I love the position as a whole. Just because those guys, what back in the day would probably be moved to either defensive end or maybe offensive line or maybe, hey, go play some hoops. Hey, you're an incredible athlete. Athlete. You're seemingly not big enough, but too big maybe. Go play some hoops. Now this position is like, hey, if you are the freakiest athlete, we got the position for you. And that's seemingly what it's become.
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D
Yeah.
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And matchup problems. Yep. Congrats to the tight ends.
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B
Yeah.
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Happy National Tight End Day Award. Austin Muerte.
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B
Yep.
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National Tight End Day.
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B
Hell yeah.
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National Tight End Day. All right, let's go to the number three headline coming out of our football week weekend. High School Miracles. Now, high school football obviously is something that we all love. We all grew up being a fan of. Obviously. It's folklore. It's fairy tale. Well, there's two high school situations that happen on Friday night that need to be seen. Let's start here in Indiana, about an hour and 10 minutes northeast of where we sit here. 2A football. Eastbrook vs. Alexandria Eastbrook, undefeated on the Season. Alexandria needs the win to move on in the playoffs. Eastbrook already has it cemented. We are now with 11 seconds left left in the game. Alexandria has the ball. Fourth down, gotta run an 11 second play. What do they end up running? Huh, huh, huh. Run back. Run back and still run away. Throws.
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D
Boom.
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Four seconds left. Okay, so now there's four seconds left for Eastbrook, the undefeated powerhouse of 2A. Bodie Howe comes in. Number 15, quarterback for Eastbrook. Go ahead, play it. What are we going to run? Well, obviously we're going to run hook and ladder into annexation of Puerto Rico. Okay, that might be a forward lateral there. Stripes down here. Didn't see it. Bodhi how gets the ball back. He's at his own 15. He's at his own 11. He's getting the edge. Bodhi, how? Quarterback Eastbrook, 6 foot 1, 205 pounds, senior out of Eastbrook. Rumbling, fumbling, jumping. Oh, no Scoring.
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D
Wow.
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E
Let's go.
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A
Hold the fountain.
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D
Gotta go.
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A
Hold the fountain. There's a flag on the play.
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E
Oh, no.
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A
It's got to be the forward lateral right back there at the beginning.
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D
No, it was forward, later was way back there.
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Yeah, well, turns out it's not forward lateral. It was actually a block in the back on the offensive team. Okay, so you go ahead and pick that flag up. Congratulations. No play, we're over. Nope. As there was a lineup for handshakes because each of these teams thought it was over. After a block in the back was called on Eastbrook, the ref say get back on a sideline. There's one more untimed down. How does that work? 10 yards from the spot of the foul, Indiana. Bodie Howe gets an opportunity. Bodie Howe's not asking. Hey, this ain't Bodie's fault. No, Bodie. And the Eastbrook boys. This ain't our fault. Hey, listen, they gave us another play. That's what we got to do. Bodie Howe going to take advantage of it. Wing T. Yeah, he is. Wing T. Three wide receivers. Whoa, give me that. So now they score. Touchdown. Okay, so on time, down after their own block in the back, after a forward lateral, potential hook and ladder annexation of Puerto Rico. It's not their fault. Hey, not your blinders.
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B
Exactly.
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A
It's not Bodie Howell's fault at all. Now they need to pick up the two point conversion. 29, 27. You think Bodie Howe's not going to pick it up? Yeah, right. Roll right out of pocket, jump back, fade away. Give me that. Tie ball game. Let's go to Overtime. Well, Alexandria scores a touchdown on their first series. Eastbrook has to answer. You think Bodie Howe's going to answer? Oh, yeah, I'm keeping it. Touchdown. What do they do? They gonna tie it up? They gonna tie it up or they gonna go for two? Go for two.
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B
Oh, no.
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A
Bode al pitch. Man's open. No way. I'll take it. They win. Wow. Eastbrook remains undefeated. Alexandria. Wow. Alexandria. Like I say, hard fought game. That's incredible work. Way to show resiliency and score in overtime. On that note, Bodhi Howell. This guy's unstoppable. This guy's unstoppable.
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D
What a name.
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A
Yeah, it is a great name.
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D
What a name. What. I mean, what a game. They. That's, that's, that's a tough one, though. Are you, do you, are you familiar with the rules here in the state?
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A
So I don't. In my eyes, in my head. The only time you ever extend a game untimed down is when there's a defensive penalty. Offensive penalties. I never thought there was an extension of the D of the time, you know, because offense wants another play. So if they make a mistake, they're getting rewarded almost by making a mistake. So I always thought the defensive penalty was late, leading to the untimed out. Is that how you viewed it?
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D
I thought so as well. Maybe that's just us covering and playing pro sports. I feel like it was that way in college, but it probably changes state by state with these rules. But this was absolutely wild.
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Tone Diggs just sent a rule and I think we could pull it up right now. But the teams thought it was over too. Yeah, teams, the full video has them. Yeah, the announcer. Now, granted, we had the Alexandria announcer, sure. He was not as pumped up as the Eastbrook announcer. Eastbrook on the other side. Oh, my God. A miracle. Okay, so Article 3, a period shall be extended by an untimed. If one of the following occurred, there was a foul by either team and the penalty is accepted, except for those fouls listed in 3, 3, 4. There was a double foul, there was an inadvertent whistle. If touchdown was scored, the try is attempted. Unless the touchdown is scored during the last down in the fourth period and the point would not affect the outcome of the game or playoff qualifying. If a touchdown was scored, the try is attempted unless the touchdown is scored during the last down of the fourth period and the points would not affect the outcome of the game or playoff.
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E
What's that mean?
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A
Somebody's gonna have to explain that to us. We were all very surprised by it. And congrats to them getting a huge win in Eastbrook and Sard Alexandria and then in Plum Borough. Okay.
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C
Pennsylvania.
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D
Sure.
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A
The Plum Mustangs.
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G
Wow.
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A
We're playing the Pen Hills.
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D
I know that name. That's.
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E
Where is it still?
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C
Is it still.
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A
I don't know. I want to say their. Their mascot name. I.
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B
Is it still.
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Aaron Donald's home? Lot of good football, Fralich. Lot of good football in Pen Hills.
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B
Plum.
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A
Pen Hills rival rivalry. Okay. A lot of similar humans. Okay. A lot of similar humans. A little bit different. A lot of attack, like very similar style.
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B
They order.
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A
They border very close to each other. Okay, so this is a Nick basically lived in pen. This is a Rob. Yes, exactly. This is a rivalry. Penn Hills has always been better important. Ben Hills at football. Every other thing we got him. Every other thing we got football though. They.
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D
They got it.
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A
They've certainly had us together. Playoffs. Plum needs a win at home. How you doing? Well. Austin Colonkowski. Colon Koski. Austin Kolenkowski, Section 1 soccer player of the year has his field goal blocked. The wherewithal he picks it up. Is it going to get tackled? I don't think so. Strong soccer player, kicker, survives 15 yards after contact, scores a touchdown. Because the boys rally. Plum's going to the playoffs. And Austin Colon Koski, the player of the year in Section 1 Class 4A is obviously an absolute dog. I believe the Plum soccer team is currently on a playoff run. And now because of that, the Plum football teams also want to playoff run. They gonna go to usc. Okay, that's gonna be talked down.
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D
Is that a good squad too?
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A
Oh, they're pretty good. Yeah, they're a pretty good team.
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C
You know, Sean Lee, we're not worried about nothing.
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This Tate, we're not worried about nothing. We're going to give Austin Colin Kowski the ball. We should think about maybe giving Austin Colowski the ball. And Johnny Lawrenberg spinning it. The boys are ready for the moment. Congrats to Plum. Getting a miraculous win here. Blocked kick. Kicker picks it up. Go ahead. Let me grab this Pen Hills guy has him immediately.
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D
That's illegal.
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A
Feel like that's illegal.
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D
That's illegal.
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A
Being too strong. Football being too strong.
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D
Rugby, we'll get.
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A
We're not going to get shout out to high school football showing up. And number two headline coming out of the weekend in our is we're running it back to the 80s.
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B
Nice.
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E
Hell yeah.
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A
Running backs are leading the top teams in the league. Jonathan Taylor with the Indianapolis Colts. Absolutely insane. James Cook Obviously absurd with the Bills. And guess who's back again. Saquon Barkley had his day yesterday. AJ Brown not playing because of a hamstring injury. And against the New York Giants, obviously massive rivalry in the beautiful Kelly green uniforms which the Philadelphia Eagles are undefeated and Saquon Barkley found his groove. Saquon got all the way back to who he was last year whenever he led them to a Super Bowl. And the offensive line, same damn thing. Jalen hurts obviously under center a bit more is the stats that you're going to hear from Dan Orlovsky in the second hour because he's been calling for this for a while, but it feels like the Eagles might have got their groove back. Debo.
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D
Yeah, sometimes just take that one big player, that one big game and definitely Saquon had it. These Kelly green jerseys are unbelievable. So clean. I believe they moved to 5 and O. Now while wearing these. Not only do you have these jerseys on, but he had those sweet LeBron Brian cleats on that he is gracing the Madden cover with. A lot of people are saying, hey, this is a Madden curse coming in for 2 6. But hopefully he lifted that curse off of him with this game. Yeah, was some more under the center, some extra alignment stuff. So love to see it. Interesting to see how they handle the AJ Brown situation going forward.
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Yeah, a lot of conversation around that. Obviously Saquon Barkley rush yards under center snaps. This is from Hembo. Weeks one through seven, 102 yards. Week eight alone, 116 yards. So, you know, Petullo was trying to get his feet up on her. He still had a lot going on and they, they started figuring it out. And this is an Eagles team. I think we all understand with the amount of talent that they have that if they do figure it out right back in super bowl conversations, even though everybody's trying to bury them all the time. And the number one headline coming out of the weekend, as we all knew, talking about Super Bowl, Colts going to win. Hell yeah, the Colts going to win Super Bowl. This is just, I think seven out of the eight weeks we've done this first 15, this has been the number one headline. Strictly because I've been watching every single snap. So it's pretty biased program. My name's in. I apolog. These dudes are unbelievable.
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H
Yes.
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A
They don't really have a flaw right now. Honestly, we lose to the Rams, that's our only loss. And we all understand what happened in that game. We certainly should have won that. Los Angeles Rams took advantage of the situation and definitely won. That guy right there though, seemingly untackleable.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Okay. He's on pace to break every record there is. Four games with three plus touchdowns. Okay, that's just absolutely insanity. He has more touchdowns than some teams as a whole. And that means the offensive line is back to doing what they're doing. And we all saw the screen shot of one of the holes that he had to hit yesterday. I mean, there's an actual freight train that is possible to go through. The offensive line have taken a lot of pride in what they're doing this year. Yeah, I mean, that is. Now granted, I'm not saying that Jonathan Taylor isn't unbelievable and Jonathan Taylor finds holes that might appear to be this big, but if you give Jonathan Taylor this hole right here, I mean, yeah, we're going to be okay. And that's what Saquon was last year with Philadelphia. It feels like that's what our offense is matching up. And Danny Dimes is putting us in the right situation every time. I mean, this guy is super genius. And just every throw he's seemingly going to the right place. He very rarely misses. And then Michael Pittman Jr. Has like one of the nicest touchdown catches of all time. I'm down here in the corner, can't see it all. I see that guy draped over top of him. I just flagged. Thank you. We're about to have first down on the one this amazing. And hear everybody go crazy and I turn my back.
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D
No way.
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A
This dude got this. They showed six highlights of this thing in the stadium immediately. Great work by the stadium operator. Every angle looked better. Like first angle was insane. Second angle he's like, that is clearly a one handed catch that he goes through a guy. Third angle, it's like what his other hand was doing in there. It's like this guy is an absolute dog. Has been willing to sacrifice his whole body on the field. Last year when the Colts were what they were, which I think everybody in that locker room now would come to grips with, maybe they weren't operating like a professional football team in all aspects, especially with what they've been able to do this year. It's unbelievable. Pittman in the middle of that run, full dolphin dive in the middle of his body, gets bent backwards, folded in half, gets up, goes back out there, does it again. This guy will lay his body on the line for us. Alec Pierce as well. It's just like Tyler Warren is outrageous. And then on defensive side, we gotta tighten some things up. Of course. Felt like The Titans had some opportunities and we didn't know what they were doing. I mean there was a couple plays where maybe they got Lou where we had a bad call and boy they had a good play call on their side and Cam Ward was able to make some big time plays. But like the Colts are very comfortable with where they're at right now and I think they're all talking the same way. They know that they got a lot of shit still to prove and the MVP chance were very real for Jonathan Taylor yesterday. D Bud.
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D
Yeah, he's unbelievable. The combination of speed, power, vision, like once he gets to that second or third level, just very like Saquon was last year. It can go for a home run at any given time and obviously it starts with the offensive line creating those, those gaps and then him finding them and exploiting what happens on the back end. Like and then a lot of people comparing this season to Saquon's. We haven't had a non QB MVP since 2012 and it was Adrian Peterson, but his touchdown total already up to 14. I think Saquon had 15, a total of all last year. You know, Jalen Hurts stole a bunch of them with the quarterback sneaks, but he is phenomenal. 28, unbelievable with a long list of great running backs that have played for the organization. He's kind of the next one up. And then you talked about Daniel Jones. Jones just complete control of the offense. You saw plenty of time with like less than, you know, 12 or 10 seconds on the clock and he's making some last minute audible and the guys around him, it's like, just take your turn. It's very much like the Green Bay packers. Not necessarily that one guy who's going to come in and get 15 targets every Sunday. But Pittman, Pierce Downs when it's his turn, Warren, whenever it's his turn, these guys just shows up and they put. Daniel Jones has been doing a great job putting the ball on, just controlling the game. Game in every aspect. Man, I absolutely loving what I'm seeing from this Indianapolis Colts team.
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E
And one of the things like that we were so excited about with Anthony Richardson was the fact that he was mobile. Like if you go back to that photo of the wide open, big gaping hole that JT ran through, like the threat of Danny Dimes being mobile is one thing. Like even if you look on the right side, they're like, that guy is moving, right? Because they think, hey, maybe Dimes has this on a boot, maybe he's running the ball and that is you know, opening up things even more for jt. So like just Danny Dimes being out there is help.
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Shane Steichen, obviously with Philadelphia, beginning of this whole thing, saw the benefits of Jalen, what Jalen had, which I think is why Anthony Richardson was so enticing for the Indianapolis Colts. It's like, hey, look what Shane was able to do with Jalen. Anthony Richardson, we should be able to do that. Not giving up on Anthony Richardson. But it certainly didn't click with Shane Steichen's offense as quick and obviously with the injuries, didn't really have that much of an opportunity. But Danny Dimes is a more than suitable runner. And I think that was where a lot of people were like, are we going, Anthony Richardson or Danny Daniel Dimes, who's going to be the starter for this team? And like, well, the future of the NFL, you got to be able to run. It's like, hey, I understand. He looks like he's like maybe a farmer or a banker, depending upon how he's dressed on the day. And he doesn't give much reaction. Doesn't give much reaction. They put a camera on him. So they did an in stadium entertainment. You know the helmet shuffle. Sure. I think it's the best one. I think the helmet shuffle is the best one. There's an overrated, underrated one. Then there's like a celebrity look alike one where they go around the entire place. Last one, Indiana Jones pops up and everybody starts getting a sense of what's happening. Offense is on the field. This is in the middle of the game, second quarter maybe. And then they slide it over and there's just this boom, close up on Daniel Jones. Place goes absolutely apeshit for him, right? He looks up for like half a second, sees himself. Oh, no, head back down. Starts like jogging in place, starts like working back. Place is going absolutely apeshit for him. And he's just like completely locked in. Doesn't even acknowledge. You can see there's a little blushing. Maybe like a little bit of. This is not like the most comfortable, but right back into the huddle and I think the next play we're off and running. It's like he's just locked in. I think he's so calloused from what happened to him. Like he got his ass beat in New York, both physically and also through the media. This guy stinks. What a bust. Let alone the hard knock. Shit. Get rid of Saquon. Guy goes and has an MVP year.
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D
Yep.
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Why? Because we bet on this guy. It's just like he has been hardened by it all and we are reaping the benefits of it. And his next contract, they're talking about spot to be big. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who is a Michigan man who can certainly help us fill in the gaps on anything that we miss. We appreciate the hell out of him. And overreaction Monday. First 15 regular. Ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL insider for ESPN. Adam Schefter. Shefty, how you doing, buddy?
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I
Oh, that's a beautiful jacket, Pat. Very stylish, very stylish.
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A
Muchos gracias. This is from NFL Mexico, obviously. It feels delightful. It's hot as hell in here. I am sweating. But we will certainly represent and continue to do so. What do we need to know coming out of yesterday? Obviously the scatter boo injury was very scary. Complete dislocation that looked nasty. Obviously, anytime that takes place, people don't love it. Is there any other stories that maybe we didn't hit there over the top five headlines that you have out of a blowout Sunday for the NFL.
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I
As you guys get ready to plan your super bowl parade, there's a few things I did want to point out there going on with Indianapolis. Daniel Jones has played six games in which he hasn't turned over the football at all. At all. And Jonathan Taylor is on pace right now for 28 touchdowns this season, which is pretty good. 28 touchdowns. You win 28, you get 28 touchdowns. You generally should win an MVP. Ladanian Tomlinson, I think has the record more than that. But he has to be considered an MVP candidate. The issue is, as Debug pointed out, the last 1212 MVPs have all been quarterbacks. It's turned into, generally speaking, a quarterback award. And I would imagine before the season is through, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Baker Mayfield, some other quarterbacks will have something to say about whether or not Jonathan Taylor does win the MVP. But today, on October 27th, Jonathan Taylor's the MVP today.
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B
Absolutely.
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I
The guy's been incredible. He has been speed, power, power production, everything you'd want. But again, let's see if one of these quarterbacks overtakes him for what has become the most valuable quarterback, not the most valuable player award in the last 12 years.
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A
His celebration too. There was a toddler race as one of the breaks. Yeah, I think like 3 year old, maybe 3 or 4 year olds racing against each other. And the little boy that won the race, he did the Jonathan Taylor. Filthy. He did the Jonathan Taylor as a celebration. I thought to myself, it's like he has a clean celebration also doable. You know, like the celebration is do. We've all seen people try to attempt the gritty. Okay. Gicki and others. Okay. And there are certainly people that are great at the gritty. This one looks great. Seemingly can do it as well. Everything about him right now is throwing 110 and I think he's capable of doing it all year. Tough guy, had a couple injuries, but before that, literally never missed the game. He's all the way back to being exactly who we thought he was now. Speaking of being all the way back, there's a Thursday night game. Go ahead, Ty.
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B
Yeah, Shefty. Do you have more information on the the Ravens whole ordeal with basically retroactively changing Lamar's practice status on Friday? Obviously, a lot of people were up in arms about that. Are they going to. Are the Ravens going to face some serious repercussions here for how this went down or what more do you know about this situation?
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I
The league is going to conduct interviews this week. The Ravens continue to insist that it was an honest mistake, in their words, and there was an accident and they don't believe that they did anything wrong here. Now, the league will obviously talk to enough people and make a determination about whether or not a fine is warranted in this particular case. I don't think if the league finds wrongdoing that they're going to go more than a fine, but we'll see how this works out. This comes obviously at a time in the sports world where there is a lot of attention on injury reports now, and I would imagine that you're going to see more and more attention paid to this, that the league is going to be very sensitive to teams reporting accurate, honest injury information as we go along. They don't want anything like what's happened here in sports the last week. And so I think the penalties could be tied to that. My guess is there'll be a fine. The league will do the interviews this week and they'll make a determination about whether or not there is a base basis for a fine or some sort of discipline.
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A
Okay, and what are your takeaways from the teams that look like absolute shite yesterday? Yesterday there was a stat that Hembo and ESPN research gave us like that was the least amount of one score games since 1970 or something from the NFL Sunday. I mean, it's like it was historically, legitimately, historically terrible day of football. Now if you're on a winning team, you feel good. Bad teams obviously feel absolutely terrible. What is your thoughts on how Yesterday when what are some teams that maybe shouldn't be as maybe moody with their teams as they probably are after a blowout or a shellacking, if you will.
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I
Well, again, it's interesting because a week ago everybody's calling for Mike McDaniel to be fired and a week later they go into Atlanta and beat the Falcons, which who would have imagined that would have happened? Even with Kirk Cousins starting at quarterback, the Cincinnati Bengals have an opportunity, opportunity to move within a half game of the Pittsburgh Steelers in the AFC north and to make a run in that division. They have a 15 point lead in the third quarter, a 14 point lead in the fourth quarter against a Jets team that had yet to win a game against a quarterback that the owner of that team criticized last week. And by the way, let me say this. Justin Fields handled the events of last week like a Polish polished professional. He should be applauded for the way that he acted, the way that he reacted to what Woody Johnson said about him. He went out yesterday and played a great game. He's thrown 167 passes this year and has not thrown an interception, only quarterback not to do that. He's got the lowest interception rate in the league. I know he's only thrown at 167 times, but that's 167 passes. And it comes in a week against again where he got thrown under the bus by his own owner, where the owner acted like some young, inexperienced player who was not used to dealing with the media.
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D
He did.
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I
And the player acted like a polished, successful, seasoned, experienced owner successful. And then the player goes out and leads this team to its first win of the season. It was very impressive to to see and I think Justin Fields deserves a lot of credit. And then, you know, you flip it around like the Bengals that they lose Joe Burrow in that game earlier in the year and they'll always remember that, but they're going to remember that loss yesterday because they had a chance to close the gap in the AFC north and let that get away.
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A
A YouTube TV commercial running right now is hilarious, especially with everything that happened over the weekend. But Sunday Ticket is absolutely awesome. Every game, every Sunday, Sunday all in one place. Shout out to YouTube TV best. And Sunday ticket. It is certainly fantastic when the quad boxes all have blowouts.
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E
Tough.
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A
It's like, wait, do I got to change my multi? Let me change my multi here. Nope, put six more in that bad boy. We got bad things all over the place. But you're right, the the Bengals having a situation there and which Leads to, because Trey Hendrickson's always going to be talked about. Go ahead, Tone.
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C
Yeah, Shefty, we are are basically one week away from the NFL trade deadline. It kind of feels like things have cooled off since that, that one week where we had a. A ton. Besides just asking you about, like, random people, do you have any teams or names specifically that you think we should be watching?
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I
Well, I think that there'll be a wide receiver move or two made before the deadline. Everybody's been calling the Saints checking in there, Rashid Shahid, Chris Olavi. They're not going to get rid of Chris Olavi. They want him. Brandon Cook, Cooks. I think at least one of those wide receivers gets traded here in the next eight days. The team's calling the Miami Dolphins about Bradley Chubb. Jalen Phillips. Won't be a surprise if at least one of those players gets traded here in the next eight days. Dolphins on a short week this week, so might be tough to make a move this week, but then would be ideal timing after a Thursday night game to see if they can make a move after that. So this could be the last game for a Dolphin or two on Thursday night against the Baltimore Ravens.
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A
Buying, selling. There's a team. Go ahead, Connor.
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E
Yeah, Shefty. What about teams like the Patriots who maybe came into the year, you know, not expecting much but have, you know, come alive pretty quick. And then teams also like the Vikings who have kind of had a disappointing start and they have a couple players that are young and need to be paid and, you know, they might not have enough to go around for everybody. What about those types of situations?
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I
Well, the Patriots are very interesting to me because to me, they're a little bit like the Commanders were last year. There were not a lot of people expecting Washington to be in the spot that it was. And because they had won and because they've been so successful. Successful. They went out and then traded for Marshawn Lattimore at the deadline. And I could see the Patriots making a move here, whether it's for a defensive back, whether it's for another running back, for a little bit of running back depth, whether it's for another wide receiver. Although those wide receivers are playing really well right now. I could see New England saying, hey, we're in this great spot right now. We got a chance to beat Buffalo for the division. We got a chance to host a home playoff game. A lot of excitement. Drake May is lighting it up right now. Buffalo. By the way, he actually also is in the MVP conversation right now with the way that he's played so far. And yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if New England made a move here before the deadline.
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A
That would be fun to see for Conor and all the who obviously know what great ball looks like. And Connor, since day one of watching Drake May has said, this guy's a guy. This guy's a guy. Even whenever all hell was seemingly breaking loose around him and the sky was on fire and everything like that. Drake has always been good. If you ask the Patriots fans now with Braves, if you're in McDaniels, it's like he's getting everything that he can possibly do out of them. And also they got a team around him and they're making smart decisions. Are the Patriots all the way back and then they make a big time trade. You guys still have cap, you guys still have money, I assume.
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E
I think we have the second most money right now. Or the first. I forget.
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A
Oh, they can make a big. Oh, yeah, they can make a big.
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D
Any big fish out there.
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I
Hey, hey, you know what?
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F
We, we, we.
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I
We used to get. We used to get regular playoff matchups between the Patriots and Gults. Matt, could you see another one this year? Patriots and Colts again. That would be pretty cool, huh?
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A
I was in a couple of those when I didn't know what I was doing. Would have been cool to be good at my job when those moments were happening, you know those ones, I was just hanging on for dear life out there, you know, like, don't hit a shank here. Everybody else is really. You are not that great. Let's not be the reason.
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D
I was in the fourth and two game as a rookie. I felt honestly, like legit. The one time in my career where I felt like I was just like an extra in the movie. Like I had no control. I'm lined up across like, all right, I got Reggie Wayne and Peyton's looking at me fucking making checks. I'm like, oh, I don't know.
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E
You're one of the only ones that's been on both sides, right?
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D
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's been a few of us.
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A
If it means anything, I was standing on the sideline there like this, thinking I was in a movie. Yeah, this is stupid. I got no control over anything that's about to happen. But, boy, we're about to have a good time tonight.
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D
Oh, yeah.
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A
Melvin Bullitt makes a big time play. Huge. Peyton goes crazy. The Goats win. What a time to be alive. I had no idea what I was doing. It was, it was a good time. It was Great. Yeah. Colts, Patriots, seemingly all the way back. Speaking of back, let's talk a little. Quarterbacks, go ahead.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Debug.
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Yeah, Chef. To give us a little lay of the land with the quarterback injuries that are out there. I know Bryce Young, Jaden Daniels obviously missing tonight Again, Michael Pennix Jr. Who else we got? We saw Joe Burrow with no boots. Any update? Purdy. Brock Purdy. We got any updates with the quarterback landscape around the NFL?
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Well, I, I think the guys that I feel pretty confident will be back this week, Lamar Jackson, Thursday night in Miami. I think we see him back this week. J.J. mcCarthy. I think we see him back this week against the Detroit Lions. I think we see Kyler Murray on Monday night. And then you raised a few of the other guys right. Bryce Young, Carolina ankle injury, could be back. We'll see. Brock Purdy could be back. We'll see. Kyle Shannon is going to talk to the media later today. There's always. There was always seems to be some sort of injury news, the 49ers that you don't expect in the afternoon on a Monday after a game. We'll see what happens today with that. But Brock Purdy could be back for them. There was another quarterback you mentioned, aside from those three, and Bryce Young and Brock Purdy.
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A
Jaden.
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I
Jaden Daniels. They play Sunday night against the Seattle Seahawks. And I just think a guy that's had a knee injury and a hamstring injury and some injury issues, Hamstrings, you got to be really careful with them. Look at how careful Lamar has been. I won't be surprised if we don't see Jaden again on Sunday night.
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A
The hamstring is like once it happens. Right. Doesn't that kind of become like a thing people get stuck scared about?
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D
You got to give it time to heal. And, you know, obviously players and coaches aren't trying to do that in the middle of the season. But in a situation like the Ravens, like you want your star quarterback back. That was kind of the conversation outside of that building too, where the Ravens trying to almost force Lamar to get in there. So interesting.
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A
That's why they put full participation, kind of put a little public pressure on.
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D
But that's just, you know.
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A
Yeah, there's conspiracies for everything, obviously, and the NFL is going to get into it. And I assume they will try to set a precedent on misfortune representing somebody's health status, especially in this gambling world that we're in, which is really starting to hear about the country of Turkey. Okay. We're too close to Thanksgiving to be talking about turkey already, but whatever you talk about the country of turkey, there's some crazy scandal. Let's talk about tonight. We talked about Commanders ten and a half point dogs now at the Kansas City Chiefs. Any injury news that we need to think about before we make our picks this evening shefty or any other storylines we should be thinking about? About.
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I
Well, obviously Terry McLaren, Debo Samuel, both back for Washington. Marcus Mariota steps in and starts for Jaden Daniels. And again, I think we're used to seeing backup quarterbacks do well and maybe Marcus won't tonight, but he's won there in the playoffs. He beat Alex Smith in a playoff game. And I can tell you that I think the organization is confident in Mariota. They feel like he is more than capable of stepping in and playing a good game. We'll see if he can do that to tonight. On the other side of the football, obviously, Rasheed Rice back for another week. Kareem Hunt is off the injury report. They wanted to get Burchard Smith, their rookie running back, more involved. We'll see if that happens tonight. And they're still missing their left tackle, Josh Simmons. But there's a feeling that he could be back here now in Kansas City in a couple of weeks, which is encouraging. Dealing with some personal issues there. But it sounds like he will be back here in fairly short order, which is great news.
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Pretty cool that it's just expected Taylor's going to be there and it's not breaking news. Good for them. Hey, good for that good spot. That's awesome. All right, Chef D. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Good luck tonight from your office.
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I
Enjoy the games tonight, guys. Thank you for having me.
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A
What do you think? You think the shite weekend continues tonight or no?
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I
I hope not. I hope we get. I hope we get a good game. I hope we get a good game.
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A
I think we have a chance.
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I
Yeah, me too. I think it may be a little bit closer to beauty, but Kansas City's a juggernaut right now.
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A
They're better than they ever been. But on that, that note, as soon as you said you think that it's going to be a good game. Talks table just gave a fool.
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B
I don't. I hope it is.
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A
You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. We all hope it is. Amen. Amen. Amen. You know, I think I'm getting older. These games are getting later. It feels like.
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C
Oh, that's for sure.
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A
They are watching these games. Wow. Today's been pretty shitty day of football. This one's going to get real good tonight, though. Then I'm watching Boz just murder balls. I'm like, yeah, Boswell. Chris Boswell will keep me awake tonight. Yes, he will. He's hitting dingers every single time. He's like, damn Dodgers. Now granted. Hold on. World Series game tonight, right?
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B
Yes, Game three tonight.
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A
Game three tonight. We got, we got. Dodgers came back one. Game two.
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B
Correct.
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A
Blue Jays won game one.
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B
Yep.
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A
They indecisive.
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B
Correct.
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They beat the hell out of Dodge 11 to 4.
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B
Yeah. Had the first pinch hit grand slam in the history of the World Series.
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A
Okay, okay. So I've been watching these games. Yeah, it's been good. You know, you know the reason why I'm watching and people are going to hate me for this, but I grew up in Pittsburgh, so get off my ass. I used to like the Yankees.
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B
Sure.
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A
Because the Yankees spent more money on everybody. And I like, you know what? If you're allowed to kind of just spend more on everybody, I like that the Yankees are doing that now. What I'm realizing is with all the star power that the Dodgers have, I like them because they're, they're the new. They're spending more, they spend more money, everybody. Yeah. And, and I think I enjoy that now. A lot of people hate that, I think, in the baseball, certainly. But I, I am watching because I want to see Toronto's big money boys. I want to see the big money boys kind of see if they can show up in a big moment. And they did. A lot of people saying, this is not going back to Toronto. They think this is. The Dodgers kind of opened it up. It's going to be over now.
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B
Or, I mean, we'll see. If you're a Dodgers fan, that's kind of the whole idea is, hey, this team's so deep that just like over a seven se. Seven game series, like it's impossible to sustain. Sustain what the Blue Jays did in game one. But that's why the Blue Jays are such a tough out, because they don't have any of these, like, massive superstars outside of Vladdy, maybe. But they just like that first game, I mean, I. We see what the Dodgers did here and they had to win, you know, Yamamoto, once again through a complete game. And like, he's just been unbelievable and he's one of those guys, like, that's why you pay $325 million. That's why you go get the best guys, because they have an impact when it matters.
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F
Most.
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B
Most. But like the Blue Jays you're just, they're. They're tough to kill because they got a bunch of these guys who maybe, I mean it's obviously different in the majors but like casual fans don't respect them, don't know the guys names and that's all they do is single, single, single. And then some guy shows up massive and hits a. A homer when a couple guys are on base. And the Dodgers, the big thing with them the whole time has been hey if you can get to their bullpen that's where they're susceptible. Like when Yamamoto throws a complete game that completely eliminates good aces.
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A
Spend a lot of money.
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B
Exactly.
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A
Not lot of depth.
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C
And tonight we got sh sh. Max Scherzer who is you know, just.
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B
A perennial playoff Mad Max making his on the mount fourth start for the the fourth different team in the World.
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A
Series which is 41 years old starting in the World Series. Congrats to him. What a marvel that is. And they should not be played on a Monday. It's football season. Move this to tomorrow. Okay, I'm done with it. There's only two teams left, right?
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B
Yes, correct.
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A
Move it to tomorrow. 23.
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C
Three nothing.
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A
So you're. Oh wait, it's been a shy weekend.
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E
Hold on.
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A
Shout out to the World Series tonight. Shout out to the World Series And.
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B
I would say like tonight would be like a decent one if you want to put the two box up there because you can just have football on and then just kind of monitor in silence what's going on in the in the baseball.
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A
I've been watching the baseball though. I would like to say thank you to the baseball.
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B
Thank you.
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A
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That's code TPMS to get 50 in.
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H
Hey fans.
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A
Welcome back to Fansville's cheers and tears. Oh, okay, so like everybody deals with blue losing, right? To a rival and a last second field goal.
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B
Whatever.
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A
It's fine. I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice cold Dr. Pepper.
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G
Mmm.
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A
Those 23 flavors are like so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of your college football team taking a big fat L. College football. It's a Pepper thing. Football. It is absolutely magical. We're lucky to talk about about it every single day. NFL Mexico gave me this jacket and I'll tell you, it is, it is certainly fantastic. I appreciate Raul and everybody down there. Football is a beautiful thing. Bringing together countries, bring together people. Yeah, bring together teams of people that will beat the hell out of another team in Week 8 of the NFL season. It has been a shite slate thus far in tonight the Washington Commanders led by Marcus Mariota will travel to the King Kingdom take on the Kansas City Chiefs as ten and a half point dogs. Could this be yet another blow up for the NFL to have to put their PR machine on? I will appreciate the hell out of whatever stat comes out of the NFL on Tuesday or Wednesday. If this is a blowout. You never know what you're going to get with the NFL there. This is the first time since blah blah blah and that's real by the way. I think it was an eye opening experience for a lot of fan bases yesterday. Yesterday. But also maybe a little bit of optimism grabbed by some of these teams that although you maybe thought you were okay, maybe just good, maybe yesterday you found out you're maybe great. Holy hell, you can pound another football team if you have to. There's a lot of hope that you can pull from yesterday and there's a lot of misery that people are certainly grasping onto after getting blown out the toxic tables here at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. 1/2 of the hammer done Cowboys AP Tone is here. Good night for the Steelers last night. Everybody loved those uniforms.
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C
Don't understand why they did those.
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A
Hey, we got Sunday night Football. Aaron Rogers play the Packers. Let's dress like what happened diner. Hey, did anybody see those things before they went on?
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B
I did, I did.
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C
I tried to warn Everybody, last week I said, this is going to be horrendous.
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A
There's no way you could have described these things showing up to my eyes.
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C
I said, all the yell, it's going to be horrendous. It's up there, there against the Chargers uniforms for the worst uniforms in the NFL this season. Yellow is just a horrendous color. But you know what? They looked incredible for a half and the boys were buzzing.
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A
So you're gonna spin that there was good uniform actually, if they get to win last night. Because I started thinking that when I first saw him come on TV and on my algorithm and everything as they were debuting on entrances, I was like, wow, those are. Those are absolute trash. I cannot believe you would put those in for the sun. Monday Night Football, Steelers, Packers. Jordan Love, Aaron Rodgers. Game almost sabotage. Trying to sabotage the game, putting these uniforms out there.
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C
I wasn't happy.
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A
Then as the game continue to roll on, you're like, okay, they are ass. But yeah, maybe if they win, it's not that big of a deal. And then as it starts unraveling, it's like, man, ass, unis. Tough night, Big loss. And a reminiscent moment for Steelers fans saying, we can't win super bowl, which is what you guys did last night. Yeah, you can't.
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C
You just physically can't tackle on those uniforms.
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B
That's.
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C
That's my big takeaway. Like, if they were wearing, you know, the throwback, the black with the white block letters, you know, that would have been probably, you know, a much better performance. Or, you know, the black with the yellow, the. The color rush.
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H
Those.
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C
But those ones, they. They were just behind the eight ball from the start.
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A
Well, it's hard to tackle a guy that grew up on.
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B
Yeah. The Cheyenne, you know, reservation there in South Dakota. It's a really long name. It's multiple names. I don't want to just spit those out there and get them wrong. I should. I should have looked. I'm sorry.
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A
Can you tell me about Tucker Craft a little bit? He did grow up on a Native American reservation.
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B
Yeah. In South Dakota.
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A
I believe he got named like an honorary.
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B
Yeah, he's an honorary member of the tribe for, you know, like acts of community service that he did within the reservation and, and with the people that lived there with him.
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A
And he's untackleable. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. Think about that. What a story the NFL has now out of a guy from the Dakota out in the middle of a reservation.
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D
Another very important tidbit on Tucker Kraft. He Said after the game that the program is one of his favorite movies. And any. Any guy, any young player that loves the program, he's good with me. So, yeah, he's. He's automatically one of my favorite tight ends. He plays pissed off. Oh, was that a headbutt without. Boom. Love. Yeah, there we go. A little Latimer there. First team defense. Yeah, love that.
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A
Yeah. That's who he referenced for the program conversation when he was asked, hey, did you headbutt somebody without a helmet on? Absolutely. You ever see the program? Just went right into it, so. And he didn't even blink there. Like that would just at least startle you a little bit. And he. He actually want. He went for it a little bit harder, actually. And it's those types of blockheads that can really scare you, you know, if there's no fear of any brain damage happening, whenever you're slamming it off of a helmet that is made to protect and inflict other things, you got to think this guy is maybe unbreakable. Now, on that note, we see another large head like this on a. On a daily basis.
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E
Yeah, we do.
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A
Ladies and gentlemen joining us now, he's a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion, a Ryder cup winner, and an owner of one of the densest craniums in the history of mankind, Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. AJ As a Green Bay Pack legend, all time leading tackler there, when you see somebody, or should I say something like Tucker Craft something, do what he does. What is your thoughts on this team and this huge win on Sunday night in Pittsburgh?
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F
AJ I mean, Tucker Craft is awesome for. I mean, this is. He's awesome before he even is headbutting dudes with no helmet on. But that little tidbit about the program, that. That really puts it over the top for me. I mean, I'm 41 years old. The fact that Tucker Kraft even knows what the program is, let alone it's his favorite movie, tells you a lot of what you need to know about this guy. Obviously freakishly athletic. I think that people don't give him credit for.
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A
Yeah. And National Tight Ends Day. So I think he showed up like he had to represent. And they talk about no number ones. There's no number ones there for Green Bay. There never has been, really. Right. I mean, that's kind of been the storyline now. Golden gets drafted in the first round and obviously Watson's back, but they share the wealth out there. It feels like Jordan Love is just going wherever he needs to go for the best possible outcome. They talk about turnovers with Jordan Love and, you know, a little bit gunslinger. He certainly had a couple of those plays as well. There's a little Jordan Love experience that goes alongside Jordan Love playing football, but I think that's a good thing, not a bad thing. You think the packers can go on a run after what you saw last night against his Pittsburgh Steelers team?
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F
Yeah, I definitely do. I mean, it's got to figure out, and you got to make sure you're all healthy at the right time and you're playing well at the end. We know it's a long season, but I like that gunslinger mentality that Jordan Love has. I like that he's. He's not scared to push the ball down the field. Like, he's definitely not dinking his dunk it. Dunking the way down to these touchdowns. So it maybe helps him a little bit not having a bonafide number one that you feel like, pressured to push the ball to because he truly has so many weapons out there. And, man, Tucker Craft really is separating himself, I think, as a tight end.
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A
Yeah. Tyler Warren, obviously a good conversation, but you talk about, like, Josh Allen. Josh Allen doesn't have any number ones. He just tries to make the best absolute play. Frees up the quarterback back a lot. Danny Dimes here in Indianapolis, similar situation, kind of free up the quarterback a good bit. Now, when it comes to the Green Bay packers to win a Super bowl, can you guys run ball, stop the run, tie.
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B
I mean, that is the one thing that they kind of need to get going is Josh Jacobs. He's got a lot of touchdowns. But they haven't had the same success on the ground this year that they did last year. Because early on, like, you remember when Love was banged up and they were playing with Malik, you know, like, they. They ran the ball very effectively. And then. Yeah, I think their defense has been very solid. Like, they. They've been better stopping the run this year than any years, you know, in the last 10 that I can remember off the top of my head.
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A
Okay, who's great in the NFC Con man, we got. Obviously, the Eagles are back to being the Eagles.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Bucks have a close one. Yeah, Bucks. Bucks. Obviously, defense does what they got to do. Packers in that conversation, I believe.
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D
Yeah.
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E
I don't know if I put them in that conversation yet. Just because. Because we don't even know if they're going to win their division like the Lions are. They were on the buy, so we're just kind of like, forget about them. Forget the Lions. Yeah. And the Bears.
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A
Whoa, whoa. We're not. Forget the Lions. But we certainly. Out of sight, out of mind.
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E
Yeah, it's one of those things, like when your team's on the buy, you do you just naturally forget about, like, even the Rams, you know, I. I would. I'd put the Rams up there above. Above the packers just at this moment.
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A
Oh, the Seahawks.
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E
I'm not going that far, but Ramsay for sure. I think the Rams, as far as, like, complete teams. You just mentioned stopping the run and running the ball. The Rams can do all that and they have Matt Stafford still.
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A
Hey, how about the packers, though, up there?
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E
Hell, yeah.
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A
Plus 700 Super bowl odds. Especially after having a big win last night with Brett Michaels on a mic.
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E
Yeah.
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F
He killed it, by the way, so agree.
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A
I think.
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F
Watch all reports. I got. You guys got reports in the stadium, right? I got many reports from the stadium. Absolute electric the whole time.
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A
Really. Where. Yeah, it might have been sitting in different spots because we got messages from different situations in the stadium, higher ups that weren't able to hear everywhere. Brett Michaels was saying, obviously that's a little bit of a letdown. I could see the greatness. I can't hear where's the stage here, though?
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F
Do you know? Where's the stage?
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B
It's. It's.
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C
They normally do it behind the one end zone. Last time I was there, when they did a concert, it was whiz. It was behind the one end zone where the entrance is.
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A
The world is the stage for Brett Michaels. But in this particular night, I think they do have them on a little bit of a platform. I think that's a little bit of a tough look there as well. But nonetheless, Brett Michaels brings it and we appreciate him bringing it. He was holding that terrible towel like this too. I. His shoulder in trap game.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Was very impressive.
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C
He does all day, every day.
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A
Yeah. We're very proud of Brett Michaels making it to the big show, you know, and Brett. Michael's been doing a lot of good things for a lot of people for a long time. And the fact that Ty said that. That he was the reason why the.
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B
I saw a lot of that out there. I didn't. Didn't I? Listen, I love Brett Michaels. I didn't specifically say that. A lot of people were saying, wow, the game really turned on its head when. After Brett Michaels performed at halftime.
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A
Every. It's got some hits just like every night has his gone.
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F
Hopefully didn't play. This would be a tough one to play for a stadium full of football fan.
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A
Every Cowboy. Sad, sad Song everybod know.
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D
Has thorn.
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A
You kind of got.
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B
Did you see the pool report for.
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C
The referee after the game? Everyone saw where, you know, Aaron Drew Parsons offside, I believe. I can't remember. Devonte.
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H
Why?
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C
Why next to him?
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A
The.
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C
The referee said he was still so memorized from the concert at halftime. That's why they missed the offsides caller.
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A
Oh, he was hypnotized by Brett Michaels. Well, every rose has its thorn, and the rose is obviously Brett Michaels performance. The thorn is that you can get hypnotized in the greatness out there. And the Pittsburgh Steelers might have done that. Let's talk about some refs, okay. Let's talk about a situation that's been brewing. Okay. Every time they run the play, they cheat. Oh, man. Every time they run the play, they jump in offsides. Nobody ever calls it. It's a point of emphasis. Hey, can't be doing everybody's got to be online scrimmage. You got to make sure we're not jumping off sites. You're calling on everybody else. You're not calling Philadelphia Eagles. And then yesterday. Yesterday, or as Dan Orlovsky says, yes, today. This was egregious. Now, the original tweet that hit the Internet that everybody saw said the whistle was blown early. Whistle was never blown. They just actually went back.
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F
Whistle was a great play.
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A
Whistle wasn't blown until 2. Thibodeau had the ball in his hand. So, like, whistle is not blown to like right there.
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D
Yeah.
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A
After he has the ball, you know.
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B
Wow.
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A
Yeah. So the. They said it was a stop of forward progress, which is why they called it. But he's one lunging forward. So what we think happened is that the refs actually thought that was a goal line.
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B
Yes.
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A
And it was like, nope, that's a touchdown. Go ahead and just keep it moving. And we've heard a lot of like, New York expedited review dropping into people's ears saying, hey, this ain't right there. This ain't right. We can fix this. They didn't do that here. So now everybody's saying Philadelphia Eagles are on the take. This is. This is exactly what we've been saying about the Tush push. And it's going to continue to get real loud, especially as these plays continue to happen. Now, did this ultimately decide the game? No, but it even happening. AJ I think people are like, this can't be real life, especially with all the conversation around it already.
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F
No, I thought this was a fumble for sure. But you knew they weren't going to be able To. To change it because of how they do the stupid rules and whatever they say that the whistle was blown even though it wasn't. Now even. Okay, the whistle was not blown. They said it was. The refs know going forward do not. Like, let's wait a beat before we blow the whistle. Like this could happen. This is a real life situation. Like, I hope they know going forward. That and a point of emphasis should be to not blow the whistle until he truly is stopped. Even if he has the ball like this.
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A
Yeah. Just when it's in the field of play. Call it as a football play. Yeah, Like, I think that's. Yeah, I genuinely think he was viewing it like it was the end zone. Like up to Bush. Bush. We know what this is about. Yep. He did it again. He did it again. 92 percenters or whatever they call it. And obviously this gets very loud, especially from Giants fans who are in the same division. What are we supposed to do with everything going on? They got this going on. Is that not your exact reaction, Bruce Brown?
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B
Yeah, it's an absolute farce.
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F
They can force the false starts that.
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B
Happen basically every other time they run it.
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A
And now this.
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F
He's reaching forward in the same motion that Thibodeau takes it.
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B
And they say his forward progress is stopped.
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A
Absolute joke, man.
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C
It's a travesty.
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A
Now that's a Giants fan. It's overreaction Monday, but he's not the only one that feels that way. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has traveled to Kansas City. We do not believe he's on the call, but we know he's going to be live for Monday Night Football. Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback and NFL guru for esports, espn, Dan Orlovsky. Thanks for joining us, Dan. From the back of a very nice suv, it appears we were just chit chatting about the tush push there, about the call yesterday and the egregiousness of it all. And obviously Philadelphia gets back on track, doing their thing. Obviously. Terrible injury to scatter boo in this. And I think we all believe in the Giants though, right? Don't we all kind of believe in the Giants going direction? For sure. I think we all believe in the Giants going forward. But also the Philadelphia Eagles got back to who we think they are with Saquon Barkley going absolutely crazy and then this taking place. You're kind of takeaway not only on this play, but the Eagles yesterday as a whole. Dan Orlovsky.
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H
Well, on this play, the NFL's lucky that it doesn't really have an impact on the game because if it did, there would be massive uproar. I've never really had a passionate take or feeling on either side of the whole tush push thing, but after watching this, I'm out on it. I can respect it and appreciate for everything that it's, you know, been accomplished and whatnot. But we can't have this play in football where it's clear and obvious fumble to every human being that has ever watched a game. But for some reason in a whistle and whatnot, it's we, it's just a play right now that I think is impossible for officials to defend fairly, I guess or equal, equally. So this play for me is got to be one that we move away from.
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A
Okay, Dan. All right. Dan doesn't want a football player to happen.
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F
What if they ref it correctly though? What if the refs start calling it.
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H
That's the thing. It's the way it's officiated. I, I don't know if you can A.J. i, I don't know. I don't know. Since it's such a unique play, if you can.
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A
I was just overreacting because that's what you hear from Johns and super duper football people saying if everybody, everybody can do this and it's an easy play, why didn't everybody do this and it's an easy play. This is a skill that we have. And then now with all the super duper slowdown, it's like, well, the skill is also kind of cheating a little bit and the refs not being able to call it. Not that that's the Eagles fault. The Eagles can do whatever the hell they want. They ran it four straight times. Primetime tv. You don't like it, watch it. Here it is even more. They gotta do what they gotta do to win a game. They did that. Let's talk about tonight's game that you're on your way to. Commanders taking on the Kansas City Chiefs. You know, a lot of blowouts yesterday. Do you forecast another one this evening or do you think Marcus Mariota, Cliff Kingsberry and the Commanders are going to be able to keep this one a battle and maybe even win this thing? Dano, Maybe even beat the Chiefs on Monday night.
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H
No, I expect this to be one sided. Washington defensively keep Patrick under 350 yards. This is a Washington defense that has just really struggled and Kansas City has absolutely hit his stride offensively the last month or so. The addition of the two receivers has been absolutely tremendous. But the real thing is some of like their schematic changes. There's a lot that they throw at you right now. They protect Patrick and it's, hey, if the shot's there, great. If not, go run around and make a play because we've given you time to go create. You see some of their 4x1 formations that when they get in those 4x1 formations, there are so many different options that they can get to offensively. Rasheed, one on one. The speed of Xavier Worthy, Hollywood down in the red zone. Their willingness to run the football. It has not been ridiculous, the run game, but just the ability to run it and be efficient and have the willingness to do it. I just don't believe that Washington can match up Doran's. Armstrong was Washington's really best pass rusher so far this year. He's out. They're struggling and coverage mightily. They're struggling to get press pressure. If Kansas City plays up to their game that this should be a 35 plus point game for their offense, that.
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Would not be good for the NFL. First time since 1970 or second time since 1970 where only one game was decided by one score or less. Yeah. Here it is. One game decided by single digits on Sunday. Wow. Jets and Bengals. That's since 1970. Shot the ESPN research and Hembo and maybe tonight just makes it a full clean sweep on its entirety. Go ahead, A.J.
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F
Yeah, Dano. The packers obviously last night looked very good against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Jordan love when you watch him play. Are you seeing like he looked pretty damn good last night. What do you see when you watch him progress? Like as a player in this league, he seems to me like he is supremely confident and I just love that he takes shots down the field and he's not scared.
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H
Yeah. If they're under center play action game is working. You can't stop their offense. You just got to hope that you can hold them down in the red zone zone. That's when they're at their best. Their offensive line is not played great this year. So that under center is a big deal. And then Jordan's just being really great with his decision making. This is the guy that has for a couple years now been crushed with his decision making or in many people's eyes that he's in a poor decision maker. His decision making has been as good as basically any quarterback in football this year. Jordan loves and then you know the. The way that they use their different personality. L. You see Tucker Kraft in one on one situations. The way that they create Dodd for situations. The checkdown game for Them has been really consistent. You know the Williams use, they've got a lot of different pieces. They don't really need a number one receiver. Now let me say this. Christian Watson being back was absolutely enormous. Christian Watson when he's healthy and impacting their offense just because his side and size and strength, they don't really have a size, speed, strength guy at the wide receiver spot outside of Christian. So when Christian's there, it's a different offense. I love the way that Jordan's been playing this year. I think he's playing the best football of his career.
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A
Let's go down to Houston. Texas with a huge win for them. It feels like they needed this. Go ahead, tone. Yeah.
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C
Dan 30 of 39 for 318 I believe is what CJ Stroud had is I would I be wrong in saying this the best game he looked since probably his rookie season. And what do you think was the difference in this game versus the Houston Texans offense for the for the rest of the year, which you know, has had flashes but not really been great.
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H
Yeah, 100% that that's the best game that CJ's played since 2023. Couple things, the two young receivers really stepped up. Noel and Higgins were outstanding. And then CJ played. You know, when you guys hear football talk, you've often heard people like me say he, he played hot. Right. Defense brings a blitz sometimes. Defense brings like a, a pressure and you know that everybody's one on one blocking and we call that playing warm as a quarterback. He played warm really well. And that doesn't mean that. And that's some. Let me say this, that's something that they've. He has and they have in Houston really struggled with in the last year and a half is like dealing with pressure both by a plan and execution. He was sensational yesterday. And then the other side, the flip side of this is you see no Bosa and no Huff show up. I mean they could not San Francisco get near cj. CJ at times had plenty of opportunity to get to this from the second or third progression. So the two young receivers, C.J. was outstanding when it came to just playing warm and playing on time. He got through progressions and then if you're San Francisco, it's a precursor. Maybe it's a little bit of like a concern warning sign of God bless. We couldn't get anywhere near the quarterback.
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A
Let's move away from the AFC south and let's go to the AFC North. Con man has a question for you. Dano.
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E
Yeah, Dan out of Nowhere, not really out of nowhere because everyone thought the Ravens were going to be great and they still might have that in front of them. They're currently minus 105 to win the AFC north, but they're 2 and 5. You know, the Steelers are 4 and 3, the Bengals are 3 and 4. How should we feel about the Ravens, do you think Lamar Mar coming back? Are they going to really start to go now? Derrick Henry, you know, gets in the end zone twice yesterday. So do you think the Ravens should be the favorites in the NFC or AFC North? And what should our expectations then be for the Steelers in Bengals in that division?
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H
Yeah, I still say that Pittsburgh is the favorite, obviously last night, in the past two weeks, there's conversations around them. But let me say this about Baltimore. It's tough to really gain Cage offensively. They ran the ball a little bit better. They got the ball to Zay Flowers. They create, were creative in some of their play calls down the red zone. Bateman won on some one on one routes. But yesterday really was about Roquan Smith and Kyle Hamilton. Those two guys played so much better, specifically Roquan, than he had at the really beginning of the season. Kyle as a blitzer was outstanding. Chicago really didn't have any plan for what pressure was going to look like or how to pick it up. So I'm encouraged by the Ravens, but mainly because of the way that the defense and those two defensive stars played. This is a very, very poor decision. He let me talk about this play right for Caleb before we end up with the Ravens. See how long it takes from him to when he gets the top of his drop so the ball gets out of his hands. Balls out now. See, like, see he's late. So that's when everyone this whole oh no. Off season was talking about timing and rhythm. I bet you from the time he gets to the top of his drop to that ball comes out of his hands, push it a second. That's way too long. Ball should be out now, so you're probably half a second late and the ball should go to the flat. So it's an outstanding interception. But that's what gives you concern and that's why I've talked about for the last three or four weeks with Caleb is like the inconsistency has really been prevalent over the last month with his play. There's been moments but inconsistency. But I do, I do think if you're Baltimore, you have to be encouraged by the way the defense played.
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A
Okay, let's talk about Caleb A little bit more. This is his first time really doing this Ben thing. Go ahead.
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E
Yeah.
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D
So now we're kind of at the mid season point and the Bears, they had a nice little winning streak there. Got knocked off yesterday. But what is kind of your mid season report card on Caleb Williams and this Ben Johnson relationship?
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H
I'd give Caleb a C right now. If I was giving him a grade it would be about as average as.
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E
It could be graduating.
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H
And there's been moments, you know, where early in the season he, he, there was stretches where he looked very good and then there's been a drive here or there in the last four or five weeks where he's made like a good clutch throw and you feel encouraged. But what's, what has been prevalent over the last month or so is wall one holding onto the football. Two and this is where I'm most concerned with DBUT is it's the extreme of playing way too fast or playing way too slow where we haven't found that sweet spot for Caleb yet where sometimes you're so sped up, even yesterday there's three or four clips where you know he's so sped up and playing so fast that you, you're, you're ready to throw the football before the receiver is even remotely close to out of his cut or out of his break or the window is going to be open or you're playing slow like on that interception where you get to the top of your drop and instead of hitching like he stands flat footed, look him, he just stops there. That's, there's, that's not how that offense is operated. That's not how that pass game, that play action game is operated. It is all about the timing of your feet. And so I'm not sounding the alarms here but what I am saying is this last month or so he's kind of been stuck and they got to get him to, to consistently play to the right pace with his drop in the timing of their concepts because until he does, it's just not, it's just not going to be what it should be offensively.
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A
We hear what you're saying, you got to get there fast and then take it slow. Right? That Brett Michaels, that's where we wanna go. Way down, way down in Coco's about to finish.
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D
Yeah, we're about to finish it.
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H
Slow.
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A
Away from Dan. That's what Is that the song?
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H
Yeah, that's why I don't think that's the words.
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B
No, that's the original lyric.
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A
I heard it. Yeah, I heard it. In there.
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C
You know who that is.
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A
You're talking about Caleb, you know, maybe rushing through or maybe taking his time. There's other quarterbacks here that out of nowhere in the MVP conversation alongside Jonathan Taylor. Go ahead, Ty.
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B
Yeah, Dano. There are a couple guys specifically Drake may, though he. He is doing stuff week in and week out that we've seemingly never seen before either. Haven't seen since Tom Brady. Are you surprised at how quickly his development has kind of skyrocketed, how good he's got? And also how far can Drake may take the Patriots playing like this?
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F
He could.
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H
He could absolutely take them to a division title. And I'm not surprised by it. I called a couple of games, his games in college. He's a tremendous player. And I'm not surprised by it. Also because Josh McDaniels is freaking unreal. I fudging love what's going on in New England.
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A
Can't say that there's.
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H
There's so many. They're the reverse of tendency. They throw so much at you, dude. Connor, I'm sure you watched the game yesterday. There's a drive in the third quarter that starts at like 11 minutes and they throw six or seven straight plays of different personnel, different formations, same motion, but different play. It's nuts. And Josh McDaniels, when I say reverse of tendencies, they throw so many different, like, personnel groupings at you. Sometimes there's two backs, sometimes there's two tight ends. They throw so many different looks at you when it comes to what this, like, Josh McDaniels will always call play in the first quarter, and then there's always going to be a different play off of a very similar look in the second quarter. And then there's always going to be a very similar play off of that. Those same initial two looks in the third quarter. Ksha Booty is a top five receiver in the NFL right now when it comes to touchdowns, when it comes to yards per catch, that's insane. How impressive that connection has been. Drake's playing unbelievable football. I don't know if there's a guy, you know, like, he's, he's. There's no question he's playing top five football right now. And it's good enough to no question win them division.
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A
Okay, and this is a stat from Hembo here talking about the completion percentage, you know, normally reserved for just pocket passers and rhythm offenses. Look at the rush yards. Drew Brees had 25 of them whenever he was completing this. Jared Goff had 16 rush yards this far Tom Brady had 25 rush yards. This guy's got 250 rush yards alongside a 75 completion percentage. So it's like what he's doing is exactly what he did in North Carolina. Yeah, North Carolina. He led the team in rushing and he led it obviously in passing. And then you talk about his feet in Caleb, he's only gotten better, right? He feels like, because everybody talked about him maybe not being able to operate in an NFL system because he's too. Yeah, this guy's too athletic. He's been too used to being the most athletic, athletic guy. McDaniels has just got him to lock in. Or has this been something he's been doing since he got there?
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H
That's the thing. That is the surprising thing I would say is, you know, when he was at North Carolina, there wasn't a lot of rhythm and timing offense. It was a heavy RPO throw the ball downfield offense. And he was an elite at it. He was elite, but you didn't see a lot of things that were going to carry over into the NFL. I think the thing that's been most surprising about Drake may is, is he plays on time, he plays on rhythm, and it never looks too fast for him. You know, like when the balls. That's. That's an unbelievable read right there. I believe he throw, throws that ball to Trayvon Henderson, a tailback. Another lovely plate call and design where that ball's thrown over the top. So I think that's the thing that's most surprising about Drake is you've watched this, this pocket passing on time development. Another beautiful play called development. But he never looks sped up. He never looks hurried, he never looks out of control. It's just this constant. I am in control. I know exactly what I'm looking at. And you know what? The second thing that's probably been most impressive is he never gets fooled with coverage. For a kid who just did not see a ton of different coverage schemes and rotations in college, he never gets fooled with coverage because Cleveland threw a lot at him coverage wise, yesterday, and it was like a walk in the park for that young man.
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A
Miles Garrett had five sacks. They showed that highlight at the end. He was throwing his helmet down in anger as they were showing that he had a five sack.
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D
That's what he signed up, that one.
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A
Exactly. Which is what everybody said. And then that one play there, we showed third and 23, very good Cleveland Browns defense. They are picketing at the sticks, still pick it up with delivery and everything. He's got Going on. Unbelievable. Good con man.
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E
Yeah, he's 23 now. He won't be 24 till August. Jaden Daniels turns 24 during his rookie year. But you mentioned it with Miles Garrett, like he was getting a ton of pressure and he never got rattled. He didn't get like the happy feet, oh, I might get here. Like he stood in the pocket and he kept throwing the ball. And it's just one of those things where you would, you know, you're just very excited.
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A
Is that the little brother effect, you think?
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D
Some of it for sure. And, you know, coming from an athletic family, being able to take. Because the one thing about Josh McDaniels seems like he is a hard coach too. Like a hard nose coach, like sticks to the details. And all the things that you've seen behind the scenes with Drake, he seems like one of the most coachable guys. And that's one of the things you worry about, especially when you get to this level with quarterbacks and egos and things like that. So he's everything that Clyde Christian told us he would be. And now coaching, you see how much it matters on this level. And for all what you just said, for a guy that got sacked five times by one guy, to not be sped up and to still be in control of being a young guy like that, the sky's the limit.
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A
He's third in MVP odds right now behind Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. Daniel Jones plus 1100. Drake made plus 450. Josh Allen plus 400. Mahomes plus 150 at ESPN. Congratulations. These guys have an incredible season. AJ has the last question for you. Dano.
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F
Yeah, Dano, are the, the Dolphins fully back now with Tua?
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A
Obviously.
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F
Big 3,000, 410 victory over the Falcons. I assume you're back in the Dolphins.
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H
No, but it was nice to see TUA look like tua. I mean, it was just the elite that we've grown accustomed to. He did. He looked. Oh. I'd say this though. In that game, it was the most physical I've seen. Miami probably under Mike McDaniel, just so much more physical in general. Their offense had an attitude to it, their team defense had it. Add to it, Atlanta could not do anything against that defense. But the physical commitment to run the football in a traditional style, a little bit of an old school style. And then TUA was just surgical with this timing, which is kind of what we've become accustomed to. That ball is nuts. Accustomed to with tua. I'm not all the way back on them because Obviously it's a long road and their injuries and lack of talent are real. But I will say outstanding performance on the road but way more concerning in regards to Atlanta than it was like feeling positive about Miami.
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A
Atlanta gets blown out by the Panthers huge win. Blown out by the Dolphins. Probably have a huge win going forward. Kirk Cousins obviously didn't look that spectacular in his season debut. Let's go back to Gumpy Miami Dolphins super fan. We're back. We got the same record as Ravens.
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C
Yeah, we went with six old lineman yesterday. Three headed monster, Ollie Gordon, Jalen Wright out of Tennessee got some burn yesterday. I mean we just pounded the rock, stopped the run Physical football team yesterday.
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A
Dan Orlovsky, you heard Tone Diggs saying everybody's doing it. That's Artie Smith, Aaron Rodgers creating the new wave in the NFL of six offensive linemen and then getting a little bit more protection for the quarterback. Is that a R.D. smith, Pittsburgh Steelers thing that you're going to have to give credit to on national television?
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H
No, that's really a Joe Brady Buffalo thing from last year. But there's so many teams doing it right now. There's. There's so many. I think there's like five or six things that if you're not doing in the NFL right now offensively, I just think you're behind the times under center.
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A
Under center. Like you've been saying for Philly to.
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H
Put the quarterback under center more. You're seeing more and more teams do it. Philadelphia does it. All sudden. There's good success. I mean Philadelphia through Week 5 or Week 6 led the NFL in negatives. I don't know if they have two or three negatives in the last two weeks. They put Jalen under center way more than they have have in the first five weeks. They've gone and used play action way more than they did in the first five weeks. They've thrown the ball in the middle of field. So I think you got to put the quarterback under center. I think you got to go with six offensive linemen occasionally. I think you got to get in different four by one formations. I think you got to go early down play action. That's that. Those are the trends in the NFL right now that I think are massive.
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A
No problem. Everybody should do all that.
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B
Boom.
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A
You're the man, ladies and gentlemen.
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H
That stat.
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A
What are you doing? You got NFL line hive out there.
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H
Yes, sir.
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A
How's the show going to be? Pretty good. How's the weather? It looks like it's a little gloomy, doomy. Ah, yeah.
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H
It's gray. It's gray. It's not too cold, which I'll take. It's about 58, 59 degrees, but gray. There's a lot of gray right there.
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A
What are you walking into there? Is that makeup? You're about to get all suited and booted.
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H
This is like, the new, like, central location on site. It's an rv.
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B
Oh, sick.
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A
Oh, sick. Yes.
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D
Thanos.
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A
Hey, don't be taking. Goes on in there. No dumps in there.
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H
No, no, no, no. I'm pretty sure this is for, like, Monday night countdown, but they let us.
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A
Oh, nice. All right. It's your show, too, ladies and gentlemen. Dan. Yeah, Dan's going to dump in there. Oh.
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B
Without.
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A
For sure. Hey, excuse me. Where's the john? It's in the back. Got it. There's two of them, actually. Which one are we going to be around? This front one. Let me go in here. No legroom.
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F
He's so tall.
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A
Got to break it. He's going to be in that thing. Boom. Bang pile. How you doing, aj? Have you commented about my muchos gracias yet or not?
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F
Yeah, I mean, I. I know that you. You like it cold, and I cannot imagine how you feel right now, especially that. That genuine synthetic leather you got in those arms. You got to be sweaty.
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A
Yeah, I'm dripping sweat. Yeah, I went to the bat. It is tank top is drenched underneath.
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D
Cool.
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F
It's a cool jacket.
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A
But I do look very. Yeah, I do look very cool. I feel like, you know, and I've been trying to flip the collar, but I just. Just. It's too. It's too.
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B
Doesn't flip.
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F
The collar should be white. What if the collar was white? So you could really tell.
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A
Welcome Pat McAfee. Aa la muerte. We are glad you like it, Mig. Okay. I'm your friend. That's what I thought. I think that's that last one, right?
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D
Me friend, Y. That, my friend, checks out.
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A
No Muchos kos migos. Muchos gracias. Poor le. I love it.
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C
Yo, don't make us amore. Is. No, just.
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B
Yo.
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A
I love it. I love it. It's really cool looking.
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B
I know.
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C
We're glad you like it. Is a direct English to Spanish translation there.
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A
Well, we got the Raul. I believe Raul probably runs that social media there. He's a good man. Probably NFL, Mexico. They. They love ball. Think about these international correspondence respondents. Think about how much they love ball. Okay? They're, like, drumming up their. They're, like, campaigning for the sport of football in their countries. You talk about McQuaid. Yeah, obviously we've got a chance to know him. Raul and NFL Mexico, people like, they will take any opportunity to be like, yes, we will spread the love of game. So we're on their side too.
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D
But Raul is not just drumming up stats.
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A
What do you mean? Last night, hey, what was the McQuain stat about no early game in the happiness level of the American football fans because UK and Europe didn't provide a morning game yesterday.
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B
Yeah. So they actually went around to like 1500 fans over their lads and they had one of the, the doctors cards, you know, like two kind of pain, four little more pain, six little bit more pain, eight, lot of pain, ten worst pain ever. And he basically said, said like lads, how you feeling after that game? And he just, you know, everyone said with it averaged on the, the Dr. Little card scale that they've been using Forever averaged a 9.1 last.
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A
Oh, so much this weekend.
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B
This weekend, exactly.
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C
He was standing on the parkway west stopping cars actually last night.
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A
Was he really?
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C
Yeah, he was in town for the game.
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B
He was.
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E
And he was.
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C
He was in North Carolina for Chapel Bill this weekend. He was doing it all.
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A
McQuaid.
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B
McQuaid did quite the weekend for the good of ball. Yeah, exactly.
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A
Legitimately for the good of ball. College football had some massive, massive, massive things take place, including a firing of LSU's Brian Kelly, which obviously I don't think anybody could have seen coming from the moment he was hired at lsu. Now on that note, good football coach. Okay, good football coach. I obviously played at West Virginia whenever he was coaching at Cincinnati. Then obviously he goes to Notre Dame, has success there, goes to lsu. He's good, wins a lot of his games. But I don't think anybody at any point. And we weren't as baptized into the college football world at the time of him being hired at LSU as we are now. Could you imagine our reaction now if Brian Kelly would have got hired at lsu? I mean we would. That's almost. I mean his family thing.
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B
Oh yeah.
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A
From immediately was photos and I don't want to mock him because if I speak to some southern people I will certainly slow the that down a little bit too to them. So I don't want to judge him for it. But was it ever going to work?
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F
You know, never felt, never felt like a great fit. It never did.
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A
And he's walking out of there with 50 some million potential negotiated buyout happening currently allegedly, if you're listening to reports. And now LSU's Wide Open Florida.
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D
I thought it was Going to work. I did. Maybe it's because, like you said, the Big east day has been in Cincinnati. He was a good coach, you know, Dame. But the thing was like, oh, he'll never be able to get the guys.
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C
Yeah, he didn't have the players, couldn't get the ball.
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D
And then you go to lsu, which the three previous coaches before him all won national championships. Right. So I didn't think, you know, Brian Cleverly was just a slappy. I thought he was a good football coach. Jaden Daniels, Heisman, you know, you're going to have the talent. There's a bunch of Louisiana guys in the NFL. They're going to be a bunch of five stars in that state. But now that's probably the best job, best college job, job available right now.
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A
On that note, Tone Digs college football author put out a poll. Best job, lsu, Florida or Penn State? Lsu. Now, we are from Pittsburgh. We have a lot of Big Ten, obviously ties with our program because of our location here in Indianapolis, Indiana. We thought maybe Penn State would get a little bit of a leaner here. LSU is kind of what everybody's saying. LSU saying, hey, this is an incredible job. Three out of the last four coaches won national championship there at lsu with the amount of talent, Florida, obviously the state of Florida, always going to be good. Penn State has all the reset resources in the world and a lot of history. Were you surprised that LSU won this poll on your Twitter account? By the wide margin that it did?
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C
By the wide margin, yes. Was I surprised that they won?
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B
No.
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C
I thought it would be a little more closer, a little more 30% for everyone. But, you know, just like D. Bud said, and you talk about the last three coaches who were there all win a national championship. They all talk about, about the recruiting base down there and you don't have to, you know, compete with those other Florida schools. When you're in a school at a school like Florida situation, yes, Penn State probably has the most money, but when you, when you put everything together, yeah, LSU is the spot.
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A
Yeah. Obviously this is the storyline right now is the amount of buyouts. And then there's reports. Now these are just the head coaches buyouts, let alone all the assistant coaches and everything like that. What schools and teams and organizations are willing to do to try to win a national championship, especially with the amount of money that is being invested in these teams and in these programs. It's crazy times. The reason why Brian Kelly was fired is because Texas A and M went in there and absolutely crushed them. Texas A and M might be best team in country. There's a few of those teams. Vandy gets a huge win over Missouri that is gigantic for their program. Obviously, all eyes were in Nashville on this Vanderbilt team and Diego Paul Pavia, coach Clark Lee and the boys showed up in a big way. Get a huge win over Missouri with the eyes and the pressure of the world upon them. Now, they thought maybe, you know, with Alabama a couple weeks back, they weren't able to beat him. This was going to be another game. They weren't going to be able to prove who they are. Diego Pavia and the boys get a huge win. Congrats to them. And then Ole Miss beats Oklahoma. I picked Oklahoma on game day, AJ Because Matier was back. And what we saw from them earlier in the year in the Oklahoma defense is so damn good. Venable is the reason why he's the head coach at Oklahoma is because of how damn good his defense is. Then you add in the weather, it's like, well, you would think Oklahoma would be able to pond him here. Ole Miss wouldn't be able to handle it all instead. Yeah, right. Ole Miss huge win. Win. A dad is what they're calling the quarterback in the head coach. Coach of that team. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, obviously football coaching legend Lane Kiffin. I picked Oklahoma. I picked Oklahoma. That's 100% on me, Coach. I apologize for that. I should have known that you guys are exactly who you've said you are. Dogs willing to go into anywhere, any environment and win. What did you learn from your team with this Oklahoma win? And how do you feel about where you guys sit at this moment? Oh, of college football.
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G
Well, you helped motivate us, Pat. Just so you know, there's a lot of talk on the bus about this pick of yours and everybody picking against us. SEC Nation, every single person picked against us. I don't know if anybody picked it. Laura Rutledge, daughter picked us. Is the only person that we appreciate.
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A
Laura Ridge's daughter having a forecast of it all. But you do draw from that. I assume you pull from that type of type of stuff with your team whenever you're motivating. And what did you see from your team in the win over Oklahoma?
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G
Well, those guys see that stuff, so I don't know how much that works. Trinidad mentioned it. You know, he's like. Because he thought like you and him were boys, you know, because you FaceTime on the bus normally for games, like, you know, a big game, you know, like lsu. You did. And then all of a sudden you jumped off and you picked Georgia. We lost to Georgia, and.
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A
And then that was strictly business.
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H
They told me.
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G
They told me. All you did was talk about Oklahoma's quarterback, how great he was going to play.
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B
So.
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A
So thank you. Thank you for doing that. Whoa, whoa. I love Trinidad. I. I mean, I heard Win a dad for the first time. I love the name Fire. I love everything about him, but I didn't know enough about him is what I think. And now Matier, I learned quickly about him, so that's 100% on me. Please tell Trinidad that I apologize for not knowing enough about his game. Game. That's on me. That's on me.
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H
Yeah.
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G
Guess who's hanging out right here.
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A
What's that?
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G
You can tell them yourself.
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A
Hey, love you, man. I absolutely love you, dude. Yeah, I'm part of the problem here with a dad. I just want to let you know, I didn't. That's on me. Not having enough belief in you. I didn't understand the amount of dog that was in you. Trinidad. That's 100% on me. How do you feel, brother? And also, I love that you want to check me for this. It makes me like you even more in it all. Trinidad. Appreciate you, Pat. Feeling good after the win, man. You know, Oklahoma, that was a tough team, but, you know, we found a way to win, so it was good. Now, Trinidad, I heard, you know, because you don't play in front of a lot of people and maybe the weather's bad, that you were going to be ass. Now, everybody around you says that's not who you are at all. Mental tough guy from Michigan. What, do we maybe not know enough about you and this team that maybe some of the doubters don't know, Trinidad. I mean, that we find ways to win. You know, all season, we've had a pretty good season so far, you know.
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G
Against Georgia, then it wasn't the outcome.
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A
That we wanted, but, you know, versus.
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G
Oklahoma, we bounced back, and coach was.
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A
Excited to see how we would bounce.
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G
Back and, you know, just happy that.
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A
We got the one early. Congrats. Win a dad.
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G
What a name.
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A
Hell, yeah, what a name. Great to see you, brother. Congrats on a huge win. And the. The entire world needs to know your story. This dude comes from Ferris State, okay, Becomes a dog, goes to Ole Miss, gets thrust into action, doesn't miss a beat. And that's why they don't call him Trues a dad, you know, they call him Trinidad because all this guy does is win a dad down there. Congrats, Trinidad.
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D
Yeah. Appreciate you guys.
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A
Appreciate you, man. Okay, now since he's a little bit too close, so I don't want to add anything.
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H
He's out now.
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G
Back to film study. Got a grind.
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E
Oh, yeah.
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A
Excuse me.
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H
Don't worry.
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G
I'm like you, man. I keep him down too.
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A
Yeah, that's a whole.
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G
We should have won by three scores in that game. If he would have done everything, he should.
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A
Okay, well, wait till the rat poison I'm about to pour on your entire team for the rest of this entire thing. Trinidad just walking into that interview for us, so cool. Very, very thankful for that. But on that note, we just talked about the big story coming out of this weekend. Not you guys getting a huge win over Oklahoma, not Vandy, obviously solidifying being a powerhouse at this point with all eyes on them getting a huge win over Missouri. The big story is obviously another coach fired at a massive place. Your name gets brought up for all of these things. How do you handle that with team? How do you talk about it? Because obviously you said they see everything. What is your kind of, you know, communication with the team as all this kind of is happening around you, Coach?
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G
Yeah, I usually don't talk about it with the team because we've dealt with this for a number of years, but because our players have performed really well and won a lot of games here. And so this attention has come with that. I just thought last week it was important late in the week to address it on Friday just because we have so many new players. So they hadn't been here, you know, the year or the year before that, where, you know, these. These job rumors and stuff would come up. And so I just told him, hey, this is a product of how you guys play is why they see the way that you play. So then people, people are like fans, like, we want that system and they say, coach, but really it's the system of the players and the assistant coaches and what. What a good job they do. So I just told him that's a compliment to them. And I think they're. It's easier for them nowadays because remember, basically the same thing happens to them. They have a good game. What happens? You know, our freshman receiver has a good game Saturday night. He's got three calls from places telling them, hey, come here, we'll give you more money, you know, pre portaling, you know, before the portal opens. That's what happens. And so they deal with this all the time. Places saying, oh, come here. You'll get more money because they're performing well. So I don't think it's that big a deal to them.
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A
So you feel like the modern athlete a little bit more entrepreneurial, kind of understand the hype and also the amount of kind of extra shit that could take place because they've been born and raised in it. Is. Is that kind of how you feel about it?
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G
Yeah. And like I said, it happens to them where before that would never happen in college. So the player, you know, wouldn't have any examples of that in his own life where it happens to them.
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A
Got it.
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G
And. And a lot of our guys were portal to come here, and so they're used to that now. It's just kind of the world that they live in.
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A
Go ahead, A.J.
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F
Yeah, coach. I would imagine, like, behind the scenes, what you're a product of your own success. Obviously, it's a very. It's a big compliment. Compliment to you and your team that everybody wants to bring you in, in your system. But I would imagine there are a lot of, like, parents that. That see these reports and call in and wonder what's going on with their kid on the roster. Also, recruits, like, do you have to work on behind the scenes stuff all the time when things like this come up?
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G
Probably not as much as you think, just because, like I said, it's happened before. So guys on our roster, parents, they're. They're familiar with it and so not as much as you think. And in recruiting, you know, we just talk about the product that we put, the positions that we put them into play and the success that we've had here. So we don't deal with it near as much as you would think.
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A
Yeah, I think this era and this generation, you know, just kind of understands it a lot more than maybe back in the day because we've been exposed to more of that now. On that note, you are different and operate differently than everybody else, I think, which is why so many people in so many schools are interested. Go ahead, D. BU Yeah, absolutely.
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D
We know from the outside looking in, we can't hear all the talk going on between the lines or maybe even on the sideline. There was some interaction with you and an Oklahoma player after the game. What kind of happened before the cameras caught you before you got to that interview?
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A
Here it is, actually. Hold on one second, Coach. Oh, oh. Are you talking a little bit to Oklahoma's players? This guy yelled at me, like, during.
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D
The game, like five times.
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G
He how great they were and we can't score on them.
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A
Yeah, I love that. Obviously, no other coach is doing that lane. So obviously incredible. What was that? How was that? How we get to that point?
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G
Well, that, that happens a lot, I think, with me and players and interaction and during the game, especially defensive players. You know, a lot of times they'll say things to me in warmups. I don't know, maybe they view me as different as other coaches. They kind of talk to me like they do a player. So I embrace it, probably because I give it to them sometimes, too. And so he'd said a lot during the game. You know, when he's on my sideline, you look at me like, you ain't going to score all day, you know, so I really wasn't trying to do it on camera. And interesting enough, I've had a number of players transfer over the years that said, hey, one of the reasons was we loved the way that you interacted with us on the, the other, other side during the game, and we wanted to play for a coach like that. So I think our players actually love it.
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A
That's hilarious. Yeah, listen, I talk shit to you. You immediately fired back. I told everybody this guy's awesome. I don't know how. Yeah, that is Bruce Arians. That is literally Bruce Arians. Bruce Arian. Same exact thing, like during practices, offense, coordinator, defense, talking shit to each other. Players love it. I like that you still have that in you, you know, throughout the. This entire process of evolving of who you are and becoming this person at this stage of your life that maybe is different than the old past. Like that you still got your edge. Like that you still got your edge. Now, on that note, your team seemingly has great edge. Go ahead, Ty.
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B
Yeah, Coach, I understand, you know, anything can happen on any given Saturday, but you guys are pretty much through the, the real teeth of your conference schedule right now, and I don't think you really need any extra motivation to get, get up when you're playing teams like Alabama or Georgia or lsu, you know, take your pick. But how do you avoid kind of the letdown when down the stretch here you have, you know, some of these teams from the bottom half of the SEC who, if you're not coming in prepared, obviously anybody can get got on any Saturday.
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G
Yeah, they can. There's examples all, all over the place of it and in college football. But the SEC now is really the NFL. You look at these games, so many games are one score, you know, or now you got so many teams going to overtime to beat, teams that they were, you know, supposedly much better than. So that's what we're in. That's the world we're in. And, and so we got to get up every single week and tell guys about that. And this is a really good example. You know, this is extremely talented South Carolina team. This is a off the charts talented quarterback that can be beat.
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A
You.
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G
And so we're going to have to be ready to play. I mean, these guys are ahead of Alabama just, you know, a few days ago, and Alabama's a great team. So this is, this is what we're in. We're in the NFL, in the sec, and you better be ready every week.
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A
I, I love to hear that mentality. And that's good, coach. And once again, why your name is up for every single job that's available and will be forever. And you having to lock in and continue to do your job in the SEC while still trying to make playoffs and win championships, crazy thing for you coaches to deal with, especially with the numbers. Yeah, yeah, the numbers we're all hearing about. Lo. Listen, Brian Kelly could be a professional golfer next six years getting paid 54 million. That'd be more than Scotty Sheffler. On that note. Okay? So you guys have earned it. Obviously. Good for the state, good for the program. Tone has a last question for you here, Coach.
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C
Yeah, Coach, I do. I. I was wondering if you have a chance on Sundays to witness what Jackson Dart is doing and if any of it surprises you because his moxie and everything feels like it's perfect for New York and he's been off to a great start.
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G
Well, right before I go, go to that, what Pat said there. Just so you know, because you haven't known me very long, Pat, I've never made a decision based off of money. Nor. Nor will I love that. For a lot of people, they're just like, well, money. And it does this and does that. I've seen too many examples and in life where money does not buy happiness. So I am never going to make a decision off money, nor do I care about it. And it's good to have. Jimmy Sexton gets really mad when I.
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A
Say that he's got enough. We gotta get this.
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G
We gotta get this. And I'm like, jimmy, I don't care. And he goes, I do.
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A
He said, that's why I'm here. Of course that is why I'm here.
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G
But to the Jackson, he's awesome. Awesome. You know, he. He's my only other FaceTime guy. He FaceTimes me too. You know, so most people just call Pat and Jackson. They're big FaceTime guys.
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A
I want to see.
- [112:24]
G
Good to know Jackson after his big win two weeks ago. You know, the next morning he FaceTimed me and I was in the quarterback meeting and he was in bed and I said this was really weird. I do not need FaceTimes from you. You know, tell you get up and start moving around. So. So he's just so, such a cool kid and he's so competitive and everybody just feeds off it. So I'm just so happy to see, just like you would be as a dad. Like my own son. Just had two comebacks, two games. Jackson to play. Like, I feel like I'm watching a son. I'm just so happy for him.
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A
Congrats to Knox. We've been following along on the Internet with that incredible high school run. They're on throwbacks and toss ups and congrats to you. Congrats. We appreciate the hell out of you, coach.
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G
All right, guys, have a great week and make sure you do not pick us this week.
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A
Pat, please, no, no, don't do that because people continue to hate me. Before we get out of here. Before we get out of here. Aj, I think this be a good time to let the world know on how great of a human Nick Mangold is, was and everything like that. Honestly, I did, I didn't want to put you on a spot, but I think hearing from friends and beloved loved ones is a good thing for his legacy. Aj, you've obviously known him a long time. Just a couple words that people need to know about him.
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F
Yeah, man, I don't know. Yeah, Nick was the man. Like, I was nervous like to even think about coming on here and talking about him, but yeah, like I grew up with the dude. A college roommate for four straight years. Unbelievable player. But yeah, just there's. There's no one else like him on the planet. Super unique dude. Looking back, seeing pictures of us playing together in six sixth grade. Every college memory I have is with Nick. Yeah, this was high school, actually. By the way, you see, like Nick is smiling in every single picture ever see of him. Pretty much like the dude is. Look at him right here. Are you kidding me? I remember during this game we're playing, Nick was so big, country strong. I'm blitzing the A gap river and I'm thinking, I'm working. He makes me feel like a little toddler holding on. But easy, big guy.
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H
Easy, big guy.
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D
In the middle of a play.
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F
Like he is just what a special human. Four kids. His wife called yesterday morning. I knew something was up. It was on. Very, very unfortunate. Yeah. Can't believe it. Like, just doesn't feel real right now. But Nick. Nick is an absolute man and, you know, prayers for everyone in this family.
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A
Yeah. You as well, brother. And we appreciate you saying good words about him like Rex Ryan. Talking about him yesterday was obviously very difficult for Rex to do that, but I think it was a good message for people to hear about Nick Mangold. You know, it's the people that love him most singing his praises. Obviously, me mean a lot, but I think you guys that have been around him, and obviously his family knows this. I don't know if there's another guy that's as beloved as Nick Mangold has been throughout the football community and society. Just so jolly, seemingly. This guy's so damn jolly. Tough, gritty. And everything we've learned about him through you, through his family, through Rex, through teammates, through conversations, is the world lost a special, special, special man. And rest in peace. And we are sorry that obviously everybody around him is going to. Through this. And such a perspective, put her about, literally. We have no idea what could happen tomorrow. Now, be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're back on the other side, wrapping up this overreaction Monday. AJ we appreciate the hell out of you for doing that, brother. I know that was not easy. I know that was not easy.
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F
No, Nick. Nick deserves, like. Yeah, he deserves everything, man.
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A
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And now you can find Manscaped products at your local Walmart. Hello, beautiful people, and welcome back to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this massive overreaction. Monday, October 27, 2025. Our three. The program begins now. Football is the greatest. That's A.J. hawk, the toxic tables here at Boston Conor and that Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer Down Cowboys. AP town is here. And nine year NFL vet Darius J. Baller is here. Let's look at tonight's game, AJ let's see what the records are coming into tonight's game. Oh, A.J.
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D
Yet again every week, man.
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A
Jeez, this guy's just one better or two better.
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E
It should be five and six. I worked you into a shoot with the Panthers because I worked myself into a shoot with the Panthers.
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A
That's a little inaccurate, 6 and 6. But on that note, my initial hunch was the Carolina Panthers. So you didn't talk me into it completely. You did potentially steer me back. I did have a full moment of the Buffalo Bills coming out of a bite. I don't know if you saw it. Did you see the clip of me making the pick?
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D
Yeah.
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A
I actually go, oh, oh, wait, I just saw the Bills pound the Panthers coming out of the buy. I mean, I literally. That is what my brain tried to tell me. But every once in a while, especially with how I've been doing, you're gonna fade yourself. Even so, Connor, you didn't do anything that I wasn't already doing to myself. And on that note, we can still get back in tie A.J. hawk, Washington at Kansas City.
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F
Ten and a half.
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A
Kansas City favored by ten and a half. On Monday night, it has been an entire weekend of NFL football blowouts. Will that continue tonight? Let's start with D Buck. D Buck, how do you see the game going in Diggs? Are there any other odds?
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C
There is a 10 out there. If you're interested in the Chiefs, you get them -10. Or if you want the commanders, you could definitely get them at that. Plus ten and a half. 70% of the money is on the Chiefs.
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A
How has public money continued to do this weekend?
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C
Well, let me say this. So far, favorites are 10 and 2 so far this weekend. If the Chiefs cover, that would be the best win percentage for favorites in the last 40 years. Obviously all those blowouts that's going to happen so far this weekend on teams that are getting 60% or more of the bets, they are 4 and 6 this weekend, 25 and 47 on the year.
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A
Okay, 70% on the Chiefs. Those odds seem to be not great. But the favorites 10 and 2. So, you know, kind of stats going against, against each other. What do you think?
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D
Kind of in a pickle right here, but everything in me, my mind, my heart, football, everything telling me Chiefs by three scores in this game. But I'm probably going to do like you did going into Sunday. I'm a fake myself. So I'm actually taking Washington commanders led by Mary.
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B
Don't do that.
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A
I'm already doing this.
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D
Gary Terry, he's showing up on prime time. It's going to be a close game. Give. Give me the commies plus ten and a half.
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A
You can't be doing. I'm already doing that. We can't have everybody. That, that can't just become our. That's not good.
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D
No.
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A
There's a lot of football left.
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D
Trust me. I don't feel good about it. Come on. It's a bed favorite for the mvp.
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A
Connor, what were you going to say?
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B
Just, just.
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E
The Washington commanders have had a shell of their offense the last three weeks because Terry McLaren and Debo haven't played together since, I don't know, week three. So if there was any hope in the 10 points, it would be the.
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A
Fact that they also said this Commander's defense. Yeah, right, he did say that. That's what Dan Orlovsky said. He said, yeah, right, buddy. They're not going to be able to stop any of it so fast. Now, Grant on the offensive side with Mark Mariota, who we are fans of. Yeah, I am a fan of Mark Spariota. I was a. I was trying to get him to come to the Colts. I think at One point to be our quarterback. Happy we got Danny Dimes. Sure.
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B
Of course.
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A
Boy, do we have the perfect guy. But Marcus Mariota also great backup to have in if you need them on a Monday night football game against a team that's in the middle of a dynasty. AJ Darius Butler is fading himself. Commanders plus ten and a half. Even though he thinks the Chiefs are going to win by a lot. What are you. What are you doing with this one?
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F
Yeah, I would say maybe a week or two ago I would tend to lean towards Washington. Commanders on this one. I didn't like the so many points but I am taking the Chiefs -10. It sounds like I can get from tone because it. It's going to be a rocket, a raucous environment in there tonight.
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D
Pat, you should have went first.
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F
Pat.
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A
I need to go the opposite age, you know, I need to go the opposite.
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F
I thought you wanted the commanders. I thought you wanted commanders.
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A
No, you didn't. You didn't think that. Not one time did you think, well, she's gonna be there tonight.
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B
Yeah, I would hope so.
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A
I think Redwood's gonna be running around his national team tight ends weekend.
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B
Yeah, it's a good point.
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D
Does it count?
- [122:33]
E
2Ts is a good player.
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A
He's a good player. I like that little parlay actually hurts. And Travis Kelsey get into pain.
- [122:41]
E
Add those just to get ahead here.
- [122:43]
A
Yeah, you're right. I need a couple also marks. Mariota over 35 rush shorts. Let's see what else those two to get.
- [122:50]
F
Take the over 48 and a half.
- [122:52]
C
To score round plus 600.
- [122:55]
A
Okay. So I'm gonna take that one as well.
- [122:57]
E
Six though. If you win that six wins plus 600.
- [123:01]
A
Yeah.
- [123:01]
C
Yeah, it's true.
- [123:02]
A
Rashid. Rashid Rice. I. I think he's probably going to get into pain as well. I mean if we're going to start doing this. Got Mark SM over in rush yards. Let's see what else am I seeing out here? All right, Commanders plus ten and a half. I guess that's what I'm seeing.
- [123:15]
D
There you go.
- [123:16]
A
Cuz I got to.
- [123:17]
F
It's a lot of points.
- [123:19]
A
Is it though. Have you seen what happened this weekend? Let me read these scores. Let me read these scores. 38 to 14. That was the Coltserver the Titans 35 to 25. That was your packers over Aaron Rodgers. Pittsburgh Steelers 32 to 13. Patriots over the Browns 44 24. Broncos over Cowboys 30 to 16. Ravens over the Bears 40 to 9. Bills did what they did to the Carolina panthers off a bye 26:15. That's 11. Texans 49ers 23 to 3. Okay. Saints can't even bear the score point. Eagles 38, Giants 20. That's tough. 34:10 and then 39, 38, 10 points. Not really that much if you look at.
- [124:02]
D
No, but as. As great as Mahomes is in this dynasty, one of the things over the years has been covering big spreads with the Chiefs. They kind of let teams hang around.
- [124:12]
A
Yeah, but it's a brand new Chiefs. Remember we talked about that that day. They isn't still the Chiefs because they're better somehow.
- [124:19]
E
Are there stats on Mahomes vs Dan Quinn defenses? Because I feel like we didn't look at for the old brick versus the Josh Allen primetime game. Maybe there's something there that might help us out.
- [124:29]
A
Yeah, that's not a bad. Actually. I would just like to hear. Dan Quinn does good. Is that what you said?
- [124:33]
E
Yeah, basically. Yeah.
- [124:34]
F
Just.
- [124:35]
E
Just get some positive things.
- [124:36]
A
Yeah.
- [124:37]
C
I can tell you this. Double digit dogs on Monday night football are 27, 7, 9 and 1 against spreads in 2007.
- [124:45]
D
Wow.
- [124:45]
A
Oh, so that's.
- [124:47]
D
It's a long time.
- [124:48]
A
I don't know if I can make anything in this jacket.
- [124:50]
B
Yeah, it's gonna be tough.
- [124:51]
A
A little bit. Maybe. I do a soccer.
- [124:53]
F
There you go. You ever do the flip throw?
- [124:58]
A
I. I could do the flip throw.
- [125:00]
F
Really? Can you. Can you launch it that much farther when you do that?
- [125:02]
A
So for me, no, I could. I could throw it really far just by itself. So I. The flip throw though, did help people. People that maybe didn't have the best throw to get a little bit more momentum. And the people that had enough courage to do that, knowing that their hands could slip and they could fall in their face right there, I. I respected that. So yeah, the flip throw was certainly something, but I. Some people can really huck that thing. Yeah, some people. We had a kid, Michael McDade. Do you remember him?
- [125:28]
B
Yeah.
- [125:28]
A
He could hook. Michael McDade could do a. Just regular soccer throw. Like it's seemingly 50, 60 yards. Like he would just be able to throw it.
- [125:36]
F
Kevin Love, long snapper should be really good at that.
- [125:38]
C
He was like you though. You guys were not built like soccer players.
- [125:41]
A
Yes, he was. He was a dog. He three doors down. He could throw it like upper 90 from the sideline actually. Like he would be able to play. That's a weapon. He played in Norway. He played professional. He did.
- [125:57]
C
He played a pit and then nor.
- [125:58]
A
Yeah, he had one and played Norway. Not a lot of flip throw throws anymore. I Don't see that. Probably a couple broken necks. Did you ever see those? You know what those were flip throws.
- [126:06]
D
Yeah, I'm picturing it. I can't stand on ball.
- [126:10]
F
Yeah.
- [126:11]
A
Do one front hand.
- [126:12]
D
Okay. Yeah.
- [126:13]
A
Front handspring on ball. So you would go boom. Front handspring, flip. And then as you're whipping up, obviously.
- [126:20]
C
It'S like a catapult.
- [126:21]
E
Yeah, yeah.
- [126:21]
A
It's a full on.
- [126:22]
D
Jeez.
- [126:23]
A
Yeah, it's a lot of action. Yeah, but it is. And you very rarely scored on. It was like it was a hope and a prayer. But boy, there was a big tattoo.
- [126:31]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [126:31]
A
It looked cool when somebody was doing a.
- [126:33]
D
He was doing that in games.
- [126:34]
A
Hell yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [126:36]
D
Wow.
- [126:36]
A
It's pretty sick. Little time in soccer.
- [126:37]
D
I'm just picturing like debone doing that one.
- [126:41]
A
I don't think that's the right person to be thinking.
- [126:43]
D
I think he's built my part.
- [126:46]
A
How did you b. Hey, I heard you aj I heard you were playing some games. I heard you were rocking some rims.
- [126:52]
F
I played a few. Yeah. Almost tore my Achilles. Then it felt like that the next day. But yeah, it was fun. I went, won a few, lost a few. It was good.
- [126:58]
A
Gave some, took more. Yeah, I understand. I, I, I get what you're talking about. You, you could feel your Achilles about the pop.
- [127:06]
F
Yeah. You know, as I think I played maybe four or five games in a row. I was sweating bullets, like full blown sweat driving home. You know, your sweat freezes to you the whole time. It was, it is a good little workout. I, I think, I think you should get two points for a dunk tip, one point for a lay in tip.
- [127:20]
A
Yeah.
- [127:20]
E
Because it helps him and all he does is dunk tip. I mean, he's just trying to rig.
- [127:23]
A
The game a thousand times. Yeah, I heard you're really rocking around.
- [127:27]
F
Should dunk it.
- [127:27]
D
Yeah.
- [127:28]
F
That's the name of the game, right? That's why you lower the hoop.
- [127:30]
A
Now U ball is the name of the game and the hoop is lowered because it's a state fair game.
- [127:36]
F
So we can dunk. So we can dunk tip.
- [127:38]
D
Agree.
- [127:39]
A
Yeah. I mean that's certainly positive, but it's also gimmicky. I mean, it's a little ball. It's a different, it's a gimmick. It's not just so we can dunk it now, granted.
- [127:47]
F
Well, it's not fun to tip the boat. Like you could leave it at ten foot and I could get lay in tips all day long. Like that's not Fun.
- [127:52]
E
Yeah, it is. Slapping the board when you tip the ball is fun.
- [127:56]
F
Smackbacks. Smackbacks were big. Like in seventh grade. My first smack.
- [128:01]
A
Smackback sounds cool still. But on that note, it is lowered so dunking capabilities can happen. That wall, though, was built by us, basically. That, that wall that that hoop is.
- [128:13]
C
On, is it load bearing?
- [128:14]
D
It's a good wall.
- [128:15]
F
It's gotta be.
- [128:17]
A
I don't think so, buddy. It's all that thing is just so.
- [128:21]
F
You got so much rebar and concrete behind that brick maybe.
- [128:25]
A
I don't think so. Right, right. On the other side of that wall actually is the gym and then there's a golf simulator on the other side. So you and Debone really testing the limits of the contractors that were certainly in here who did a great job. We're gonna say that they did a great job, certainly. But every time Debone was wrecking that thing, I just thought of the entire thing coming down and really being problematic now. It shouldn't think that way. It's probably much more sturdy than I imagine. But I remember when this place didn't have that wall and then I watched that thing kind of get built up. And just the thought of you guys just trying to shack that thing is a little scary. Yeah, just a little scary. But I appreciate your guys intensity. I will say that I appreciate your.
- [129:01]
F
Intensity, AJ Debone had like 10 reverse dunk tips. Like behind his. Behind his head. Like he's. He's an athletic.
- [129:07]
A
Yeah.
- [129:08]
E
In athletic. Yes.
- [129:09]
A
How's he doing? Jumping wise timing. Timing on his jumping. Good.
- [129:13]
D
I mean, you guys are just reffing him. I don't like how you guys ref him. I mean, he was. He had one at. I mean his elbow was at the top of the box.
- [129:22]
A
Oh, two, two.
- [129:23]
D
Your foot, your foot.
- [129:24]
E
Yeah, his elbow's up there, but his foot is on the ground.
- [129:27]
D
Like it's not Wimby. You can't. That's impossible.
- [129:30]
A
Iron Wemby's the real deal, huh? Everybody's talking about Wemby being the real deal.
- [129:34]
D
Cheat coat.
- [129:34]
F
So.
- [129:35]
A
And then also Austin Reeves is the guy.
- [129:37]
E
Yeah.
- [129:37]
A
Heard he won for 50 last night. That's awesome. Cooper, flag.
- [129:41]
D
Right.
- [129:41]
A
Going crazy.
- [129:42]
D
He had his moment. He had a nice dunk. I think that that will catapult him to kind of Zion Williamson.
- [129:48]
B
Yeah.
- [129:48]
E
Oh, yeah.
- [129:49]
A
Doing his thing. He's ah. Yeah, he's rocking rims. Right.
- [129:53]
B
They're doing it.
- [129:53]
E
Wemby blocked him 10 times, but he's. They still won.
- [129:56]
A
I think Wemby's going to do that.
- [129:58]
F
Yeah.
- [129:58]
C
Yeah, that's Wemby football.
- [129:59]
A
So he went with the Monks and came back more aggressive.
- [130:01]
C
Aggressive?
- [130:01]
E
Yeah, yeah. I went Monks to kg.
- [130:03]
D
Yeah, he covered all the bases. Monks, kg, Hakeem.
- [130:07]
A
I mean, so that video of KG Don exactly talking up to him. I didn't hear that. What's going on?
- [130:13]
E
I don't think that footage has actually been released yet.
- [130:17]
A
So you guys saying he went to kg? That was like a. Hey, Wemby went and trained with kg. That's what that photo was.
- [130:23]
G
Yes.
- [130:24]
A
Oh, he went from the Monks to kg.
- [130:25]
E
Yes.
- [130:26]
A
What a genius, this guy.
- [130:27]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [130:28]
A
Wendy's always thinking in 7D chess, isn't he, AJ?
- [130:32]
F
Yeah. And he's nine feet tall and he can block everybody's shot. And he doesn't even have to jump to dunk from like the three point line.
- [130:37]
A
And he's got wiggle all of a sudden.
- [130:38]
D
Oh, yeah, that's the.
- [130:39]
F
He's got handles like, it's wild.
- [130:41]
A
What's the deal? Step backs this guy?
- [130:43]
D
That's the crazy part to me. Like, blocking shots. Okay. And even. Even when he does jump to block it, like you. You. You anticipate him going up there, but him like this right here, just bringing the ball up, being able to handle. Pull up three. Like, come on, man.
- [130:56]
A
Yeah.
- [130:56]
B
Y.
- [130:57]
D
Like, that's, that's. That's some NBA 2K created player type. Like, usually guys that big can't walk and chew gum at the same time. He's stepping back, dribbling. Reverse dunking. No, look past, like, I mean, come on.
- [131:09]
A
SWAT team, dude. Full SWAT team. I just watched him swat those two shots back to back, just waiting. He's literally just sitting there toying with people. Y. And that one's mine. Let me hide under here. Yep, that's mine. Thank you for coming. And also, that's mine. Yeah, I. I mean, welcome to the. Welcome to the SWAT team. Good for Wendy. Good for basketball. Basketball needs a lot of good stuff to happen to it.
- [131:29]
B
Yeah.
- [131:29]
A
Yes, it does. Tyrese Halberton dunked.
- [131:33]
E
Here we go.
- [131:34]
D
Okay.
- [131:35]
A
He dunked. Tyrese Haliburton dunked. He's on his recovery of the achilles, obviously. Week 17. Ah. You himself still got a little soft.
- [131:41]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [131:42]
E
He's gonna drop.
- [131:42]
A
Like, they did that. Now, obviously remember Jason Tatum showcasing his dunk and obviously a part of the process and his recovery. Jason Tatum a couple months ahead of Tyrese Halliburton. So he's literally chasing him. I think they use the same surgeon and everything, so kind of has a trail and A blueprint ahead of him, but obviously that's good news. All right, NBA, good luck. Good luck.
- [132:02]
D
NBA, good luck.
- [132:04]
A
Good luck.
- [132:06]
F
Need some great, great ball on the court, don't they?
- [132:09]
C
They're getting it early.
- [132:09]
A
They need some good highlights out there. They need everybody trying to real hard. Go ahead.
- [132:14]
E
All the rookies are playing really, really well. Like, genuinely, they. They've had stars. It was essentially just on the court. Probably the best start to basketball in a long time.
- [132:24]
A
Turning it on, just, Just like baseball. Turning it on. Watching, captivated by what's going on and then sticking around. And then immediately after watching, I'm like, man, I wonder if people are still going to watch this because of everything that's going on. It's like, I think the product is good, but they certainly going to have to, you know. But now we. With what happened in Turkey. You hear about what happened in Turkey, not getting into it.
- [132:43]
D
So this is.
- [132:43]
F
It's soccer. A bunch of soccer people are corrupt.
- [132:46]
B
Well.
- [132:49]
A
The way you said that. I know what you were trying to do right there. I know. So you guys are telling me a bunch of soccer people are corrupt. That's what you just said right there. As if.
- [132:56]
F
Well, all I know of soccer is what I've watched and read about FIFA and all that whole organization.
- [133:03]
A
And what have you learned about that? Just you get a World cup potentially, if you.
- [133:06]
F
Yeah, there seems to be some, I don't know, some backdoor deals, somebody qu. Quid pro quo. Is that what they call it? Even above that, maybe in some, you know, some questionable situations, building stadiums and such in different parts of the world.
- [133:19]
A
Now on that note, boy, soccer, good sport. Yeah, good sport. We're going to win the World Cup. But I'll tell you what, if the refs are on a take in that sport, you can just free kick, penalty, offsides, anything. Just like basketball. Basketball you can call anything, you know, you can get a yellow card for a guy, really, if you want to early, you can. In soccer, I'm not saying all soccer's doing this. Can't say that. Can't think that way, can't do that. But in these sports where, like, anything's a penalty, basically, you know, I mean, that's.
- [133:49]
D
That's all.
- [133:49]
F
And only one guy knows how much time is left in the game, too.
- [133:52]
A
What's that?
- [133:53]
D
When you talk about referees, I mean, that's. That's all sports.
- [133:56]
A
Yeah, because I guess holding every.
- [133:57]
C
Every plan, holding legendary coach Jose Mourinho was pounding the drum that the Turkish League was rigged when he Coached there. Now he's out of there. But he was right.
- [134:07]
A
Jose Mourinho. Yeah.
- [134:09]
C
Legend. The special one.
- [134:11]
A
I heard Messi gave a sit down interview on whether or not he's playing in a World Cup.
- [134:14]
I
Yeah.
- [134:14]
C
It's going to be on NBC tonight, I believe.
- [134:19]
D
Like the decision.
- [134:20]
A
Yeah.
- [134:21]
B
Who do you sit down with? Chris Sims, hopefully.
- [134:23]
A
No, I don't think it was Chris Sims. I don't think it was 4 Florio either.
- [134:26]
C
NBC News.
- [134:27]
A
I think it was Good Morning America or something. He'll be out there.
- [134:31]
C
He's not playing.
- [134:34]
A
Yeah.
- [134:35]
F
He's Billy Bush.
- [134:35]
D
Terry Brescia.
- [134:37]
C
Terry's on fire.
- [134:37]
A
Billy Bush. Maybe he's announcing he's playing for America as Lou Messi. Oh, yeah, that's what we need.
- [134:45]
B
Yeah.
- [134:47]
C
What was that guy selling, Terry?
- [134:48]
B
Corn?
- [134:49]
A
Oil pigs.
- [134:50]
E
Come on.
- [134:51]
D
I thought was Coach Reed.
- [134:53]
A
CBS Sports Galazo is reporting that Turkish football has been rocked by a massive betting scandal. A probe revealed that 371 of 571 active referees had betting accounts and 152 of them were actively gambling. Good emoji usage there by CBS Sports. Gazo. That is something to make you blush.
- [135:09]
C
Wow, they have 570 referees.
- [135:12]
A
Yeah, 370 of Warner. Think about getting a little action. And then 152 of them said, don't think about it, let's do it. Action. Actually, that sounds like a problem they're gonna have to figure out over there in Turkey. And I'll tell you what, I'm done betting on Turkey soccer.
- [135:23]
B
Me too.
- [135:24]
A
That's it. I don't like what they're doing. That's aj. We make a promise right now. We don't bet on Turkey soccer anymore.
- [135:32]
F
Okay, AJ it's gonna be tough. I won't bet on anymore. I'm still gonna watch it. Every one of them.
- [135:36]
C
But I won't bet it unless it's Champions League. If, like, Fenerbache is playing in the Champions League.
- [135:43]
B
Refs.
- [135:45]
C
There's no Turkish refs in the Champions League.
- [135:47]
A
Oh, yeah. I'm sure they don't follow the team. Okay. Yeah, yeah, right. I'm not betting on it. I'm done with it, which sucks. I'm not even going to watch it. Ange, you're still going to watch the Turkish guys?
- [135:57]
H
Yeah.
- [135:57]
E
Oh, yeah.
- [135:57]
F
I'll still consume. I consume all of soccer.
- [135:59]
D
Don't get out. Don't get. Don't get ridiculous now, Pat.
- [136:02]
C
See MLS cuff right now.
- [136:03]
A
Is G1 still happening or.
- [136:06]
C
Yeah, boy, is it.
- [136:07]
A
Where'd you guys play at?
- [136:10]
D
See that Jacket you got on Mexico City.
- [136:12]
B
Mexico City.
- [136:13]
D
Lando has taken the lead by one point. His partner.
- [136:18]
A
Hey, he's bueno, isn't he? Down there.
- [136:22]
D
Come down the stretch.
- [136:23]
A
Well, good luck to G1. And the MLS cup is a real deal, brother. I saw last night Lou Messi was trying to bend it in from a corner. Almost made it.
- [136:33]
B
Classic, Lou.
- [136:34]
A
Yeah, it's classic.
- [136:35]
B
I played last night.
- [136:35]
C
Cincy, NASA, Nashville.
- [136:36]
G
Tonight.
- [136:37]
C
It's a big one. Holy.
- [136:38]
A
They need to play these games on Tuesday.
- [136:40]
F
This is.
- [136:40]
C
This is all week.
- [136:41]
A
We got.
- [136:41]
D
This is.
- [136:42]
C
I would definitely be down on Tuesday.
- [136:44]
B
Tuesday, 1 o'.
- [136:45]
C
Clock, best of three series.
- [136:46]
A
No, not one o'. Clock.
- [136:47]
E
We don't want to go.
- [136:48]
A
Matt May. Are you saying 1am or 1pm?
- [136:50]
B
No, 1pm I don't want to.
- [136:51]
A
We. How will we do the show?
- [136:53]
E
True.
- [136:53]
A
Yeah.
- [136:54]
F
No one watch.
- [136:56]
B
Because I don't think anyone would watch it. That's kind of what I was getting at. Maybe just throw it on at like.
- [136:59]
C
1Pm you got sounders, Minnesota.
- [137:01]
B
Now that's a different story. I did not know the Sounders, Seattle. Okay.
- [137:05]
C
Is it in Seattle? Minnesota.
- [137:08]
B
So that's. So that's going to be a prime time one needs to be. Because I will watch that.
- [137:12]
A
All right, so we'll keep up with everything going on. Who do River Hounds got? We. We win this year or. No, we were in it last year.
- [137:20]
C
In the U.S. open Cup. The MLS.
- [137:24]
F
What that mean?
- [137:25]
A
What?
- [137:26]
D
That's not real.
- [137:28]
C
The U.S. open Cup.
- [137:30]
B
They are.
- [137:31]
E
Oh, excuse me.
- [137:33]
C
They're in the playoffs. They're at home in the playoffs.
- [137:35]
B
Who they got?
- [137:38]
A
I don't know. Now just know this. The Plum Mustangs boys and girls soccer team in the playoffs. They're problematic. Hell yeah, they are problematic. And then the Plum Mustangs football team. Do you see what happened?
- [137:49]
F
I did. What an awesome play. Yes, I did.
- [137:51]
A
Austin Kolinkoski taking that thing to the crib. You know, I don't like how we just didn't block anybody for the field goal. We might need to get that figured out as we go in the playoffs. But way to react, boys. Way to get it close in the fourth and take it home. Way to out fight at out scrap out grit the Pen Hills football team. What's her name?
- [138:11]
C
Is it still the same?
- [138:14]
A
That was a question from me to you, brother.
- [138:15]
E
What was it before?
- [138:19]
F
What did it rhyme with?
- [138:21]
C
Schmindius.
- [138:22]
B
Okay, I figured. I thought that might have been the case. You can let that at 1. You can let it fly.
- [138:27]
A
The Penthills Indians are a notable Good football team. Yeah, they are okay. They are a good football team. Very, very good. This Mustangs team though young, scrappy, young and it was on display there a tough one against USC Opera St. Clair. But we need to think about putting this guy every position.
- [138:44]
C
I think they're the Trojans.
- [138:45]
A
He's untackleable. He's Austin Colon Koski and I love everything he's about. Did you see that other game that happened in Indiana? AJ Yeah.
- [138:55]
F
What bod Bodie. How was that? The quarterback I believe that was pretty amazing.
- [138:59]
D
Remember?
- [139:00]
C
Remember?
- [139:00]
A
Unbelievable that you pulled his name from that legit. Bodie how of Eastbrook is what we like to define literally as a problem on a football field. Okay. He gets the ball in his own 20, runs all the way back to his own 11, gets the edge on 61, is given max effort with terrible angle there. He'll figure it out later in life. We assume Alexandria needs the win to get to the playoffs. Eastbrook undefeated season bod. Al says we're not losing tonight. Glitching the camera. No glitch in the game, Bod how.
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D
I mean it's camera quality.
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A
There's a flag on the play.
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D
My high school tape.
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A
You have it. They now have a block in the back on bodies. House team one untimed down because it resulted in a touchdown. Bodhi Howe throws it to the sky here in Indiana and it comes down. Touchdown Eastbrook. Two tuds in a row that are improbable. An annexation of Puerto Rico, a Hail Mary and then a two point conversion cross his body. It's a tie ball game with no time left in the game. Let's go to overtime. Can Alexandria answer? Of course. They score a touchdown. Eastbrook's got to answer. Bodhi owl no option toss to the crib. Are they going to go for two? Try to steal this thing, not kick the extra point. Go to double overtime? They are. That's bod how football. Give me it pitch guy wide open, never getting the ball. No bod House taking that one home. Welcome to Bodie how show Eastbrook maintains its undefeated season in Alexandria. I do believe missed playoffs. I'm not 100% sure, but I think that's tough. That's good high school football there. Oh yeah, yeah.
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C
Good old wing tea.
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A
That is good. Yeah. And also no real angles or leverage.
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F
Just film session the next day.
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A
The glitch on the film, even on it, I mean just everything about it was so high school right there for both those plays. Just like the most high school football of all time. Love that high school football's taking place. Huge weekend in Pittsburgh for football. Obviously hosting a Sunday night football game with the packers coming to town and them losing. Okay. Fireworks. They had fireworks. You see the fireworks show?
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
Inserts are not taking it well and I'm not 100% sure if they're the only team that is responding the way that they are. And that's why we put out a tweet on Monday mornings. We say, hey, listen, we want to hear how you feel. We want to get the temperature of every fan base and obviously we don't have friends in every fan base. So we're going to utilize you guys to go ahead and explain your emotions on this overreaction Monday. Go ahead and tweet us. All you got to use is I don't want to overreact. But this ended up being like number two overall trend, I believe, which we are incredibly thankful that everybody participates, but. But also we're very thankful that people utilize it as a therapy session and really let it out, A.J. i mean, some people really let it out on their teams and I get a good enjoyment out of reading them because this is what's good about the sport. This is what's good about the sport. This one's from Nick Maraldo. He's a noted Pittsburgh Steeler fan. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but we finally have an offense that can score actual points. But now the vaunted steel curtain defense is a soldier soulless life sucking money pit that can't run, tackle, cover, communicate or seemingly function at a professional level in any capacity. Feels like nothing good coming from that defense. Let's go to the man himself. Nick, once you sent this tweet, did you feel better and have you changed your opinion from that moment until now? Opinion certainly has not changed.
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B
Thank you.
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A
You read that very well and you put the emphasis on all the right syllables because that's how it felt. Typing that out and watching that game last night, watching these guys just fall flat on their face with a 10 point lead and an opportunity to close out a game on national TV against a big time opponent with all these great story lines with Aaron in the pack and the defense just couldn't get it done. Couldn't tackle anybody, couldn't cover. It's the same thing week after week. They get out gained in every game. They give up these huge chunk plays, massive third downs, they just let him walk right through down the field. It sucks, A.J. it might be because the uniforms. Nick's not really talking about that.
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F
Yeah. I think I heard Tone say that he's not able to tackle in those uniforms. Maybe I think if they would have black pants, maybe it would have been a little better on the eyes. I think I, I, I like the helmets. I like the matte like yellow helmets. That's all right. I think the pants just really threw me for a loop, I guess.
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A
I think we're all pretty confused by him. And then the icy whites from Green Bay obviously look incredible. But this defense has been the talking point all season season basically for Steelers fans.
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C
Yeah, we're not not enough people talking about that either. The Bengals and Packers all white back to back weeks May there's an issue with that as well.
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A
Should that be illegal, you think maybe.
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C
This is the worst Steelers defense. And I'm not just saying this. This is statistically it's come out today and last night since 1988 and that's 37 years because that was the year I was born. So if there's any accountability within this organization at all, heads will roll.
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A
Okay.
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C
Can't have the worst defense that an organization has had in 37 years and.
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E
Not change anything with that much money.
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A
They're spending money. Thank you, Conor.
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C
That is a great point that I forgot to say they paid everyone.
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D
What are you changing week? Week 9 Now where does it start?
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C
At the top or the bottom?
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A
Oh, jeez. This is our reaction Monday where certain experiencing especially with a prime time game and a good opponent we call all the pieces we're supposed to go on a Super bowl run. Why didn't it look like it is what Pittsburgh's saying? Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? This is from Josh Dorsey. Hashtag I don't want to overreact but Sig and the boys put their Sigs out on UCLA's Asters Colts continue to roll and beat the Titans According to source they're renaming the Tennessee shitens been since 2012 with the last last running back MVP jt25 MVP. Life is good in the state of Indiana. Amen. Josh Dorsey and Jonathan Taylor special. This guy's so good. He's so good. The, the angle that we had from where we were sitting on the tightrope down the sideline, he was running away from us. It just didn't make any sense. Like just physics didn't make sense with how big he is, how fast he is, how strong he is. Somebody's touching him and him looking down and being able to keep his balance. He's special. It's guy's really good and his celebration is sick.
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F
AJ his celebration is amazing. His all I think of is his knees must feel so good. His Patel attendance. Everything feels great to be full speed and then go into this little hop situation. Like he is awesome. His vision, his like his ability to jump cut and set up his blocks.
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E
Like it.
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F
It's wild watching this dude run. I think he's honestly only getting better as the year goes as well.
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A
And the offensive line only getting better seemingly as well. There's obviously huge holes now. Jonathan Taylor will create those. Danny Dimes being a threat of a run. Connor reminded us also a huge piece of what they have to do in the box with Jonathan Taylor. But he's special to watch.
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D
And the balance that they have on the offense, I think their first drive he. Jonathan Taylor got the first run. They went like seven passes and one run on that. So it's always. You can't really. You're always on your heels with this defense. But the top part of what Josh Dorsey, I believe his name said. Let's talk about that blood blowout, that 50 to 6 ass kicking of UCLA. I don't like that. Now finally after UCLA gets their ass kicked, now we get to see the head coach. I didn't like that.
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A
Yeah.
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D
It'S all right. There we go. It's actually Coach Skipper. There he goes. Got his ass.
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A
Tim Skipper. And I would just like to say.
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D
I appreciate that, bro. You know I'm with you too.
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A
To his death defense. How about him just being cool with new Heisel, kind of doing his entire thing. Like, I think he showed incredible leadership, just being like, hey, this is a thing and that. And then as soon as they lose, I'll tell you what. Is Tim Skipper. No, that is. That is kind of. Hey, Tim, you've done a great job over there.
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C
They couldn't use Jerry's picture because Sig put a cigarette literally out on his forehead.
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A
Yeah, which could have happened by the way. I mean, right before half he gives a. An interview and just breaks down a game. Go punt. Turn is pretty good. Our offense pretty good. Defense pretty good. Yeah. We're up 30. Yep. We got to finish it out. Second half. Any other questions? Just walks away. 27 and a half point favorites. This is twice now at home where they should beat teams. And they don't just beat them. They.
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E
Yeah, no doubter.
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A
Pound them.
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D
Same with the Colts.
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A
That's the state of their culture, I think. Same with the Colts as well. I said that on game day as like my opening Take, you know, because it's like each week, what is like the. The entire open and with a slate that doesn't have a lot of high profile games, it's like you, you find out who's real. Like, I think your culture gets exposed in these low profile games. Whenever your team could maybe kind of dip a little bit, or maybe they're big time favorites and they don't live up to the hype. It's like you kind of expose who you are. I think at these moments, Indiana has throttled people. I, I mean, just no questions asked. That's Signetti's culture, I think. And I'll tell you what it. People in Indiana who are football people, which there's obviously are a group of football people out here, love basketball as well in racing, but they love what's going on in Sig couldn't be the more perfect person to lead this Hoosiers team. Could not be the more perfect person for this state.
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F
AJ Think about. That's why they locked him up then. They knew what they had. And that's true. Like when they were at 27 point favorites, you said going into this game.
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A
27 and a half. Yeah.
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F
Like that's when you see some, some great coaching. When a team comes out and they do what they were supposed to do when they go annihilate a team that they felt like they had the upper hand going in. Like, that's a, that's another different form of a coaching that you have to handle. Like, how do you handle success now? We're the big dogs here. They expect us to win. Oh, and we went out there and we put a stamp on it and we, we won by much more than what they even expected. Like, that's not an easy thing to do. Human nature is to kind of let down and not pay attention to all the little things. And you can tell Sig is on those dudes every single day. Attention to detail, all of it. Like, he has him rolling.
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A
That's talent evaluation too, you know? Like, I think the reason why Sig came out and talked all this shit early is because he said he felt obligated to with what he learned in the first eight hours about everybody's expectations of what Indiana is. But whenever he says Google me, I win. I think that's because he had a lot of faith in his evaluation process, in finding the right guys for the process. And it feels like he finds everybody with chips on their shoulder kind of overlooked. And then he coaches the hell out of him. I think he coaches hard I. I think he's a pretty accountability driven coach out there and he finds the guys that can take the coaching and get better and buy into the culture. He's done it back to back years now. We assume he's going to do it going forward. His eye for who's right for his program is spectacular.
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C
And he has never changed. He's always been like that. I just saw an interview of him this weekend from IUP, which is D2 School in Pennsylvania. He's the same exact guy. But was this the, Was this the Pepsi and Milk game?
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A
Yeah. Y N Bargetzy.
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F
He was awesome.
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E
Oh yeah, he was incredible.
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A
He's. He's special talent. Nate Bargets. He's a special talent, you know, just like operating at a very high level. You, they call it the Harvard of the South. And he said, I didn't go to school here, but I certainly, you know, bear the, the fan trauma or whatever he said. And. But he, his intelligence like radiates out of his brain whenever he starts talking. You know, there's Texas being number one. There's. Yeah, yeah.
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C
Number one in the country.
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A
Right. And I believe that. Yeah. And pulled it off.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Because that could sound very stupid or dumb. Pulled it off. It's like he's. Bargetti is a special town. I talked to him a little bit. He was in between shows. He was in Chicago on Friday night. He was doing Cincinnati on Saturday night. So he flew in to do that. Perfect. Which we are very, very thankful for him doing. Obviously special. Kenny Dirks, you name it. Like there was a lot of ass to perform because it was Nashville. So we, we sent out a lot of requests. A lot of people, obviously, with everybody's gigs and schedules, trying to make it happen, including the band that was up there with Dirks and Kenny. It's like that whole band is a part of other bands and like just kind of piecing it all together for the good of the show is sweet. But Bargetzi, he told me the number of shows he's doing this year and they're all arenas.
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F
It's like he'll do back to back nights.
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A
Congratulations, Nate. You did it. He did it. And he is his brain on display. Go ahead, A.J. i'm sorry, I cut that.
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F
No, I, I saw him a couple months ago. I think I've told people, like, saw him a couple months ago at the, the basketball arena here at Ohio State and he was unbelievable. Start to finish. He was great. And he sold out that arena, the whole arena. But then he's in the Round. So there's all the. There's probably 20,000 people in there. He had a Saturday and Sunday night show, both sold out. And I was like, man, yeah, I've known of his stuff. I've seen his stuff. I hadn't seen his stand up yet. Live. He was unbelievable. From top to bottom.
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G
For respect.
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A
Special. He's special. He's like a special talent. Doesn't swear. Super, super smart. Callbacks, everything. And his delivery, he's not a nerd. You know, like sometimes super smart comics, comics have a nerd delivery. It's like, nah, he's a fucking genius, this guy. Expert level brain in this entire thing. I don't know how his picks did, but I appreciated that. Every single one of them. And then he was trying to recruit that five star Jared Curtis. Yeah. Is that what you're going to say?
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E
When byu, Iowa State came up, it got to him and he just didn't give a fuck about the game. He went right to Jared.
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A
So he had Jared Curtis written down on his notes. He didn't have as many notes as everybody else. People have been showing up with notes since Timothy Chalamet. So Timothy Chalamet has kind of changed the way people feel about what they're allowed to do because Timothy Chalamet obviously came in prepared, had notes, was very. And we were all appreciative of that. I think a lot of these celebrities are like, I, I can't have notes. I gotta go in there and act like I know what I'm doing. And then they get up there and they see my shit, it's like, yo, I got notes on all this.
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B
I got a thousand notes.
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A
We are living in this thing. You should definitely take notes. These are a lot of teams. So like people have been coming up with notes and it's like very cool to see the prep that they put in. Jared Curtis, that kid's name was written real big, just like right at the bottom. Only thing I saw, like in big marker. And I saw it like as soon as he sat down, I was like, good notes. And then I, I heard him hit it first time. Jared Curtis, he's like, here, he's here on a visit. He could stay at my house. He could do this entire thing. And he moves on to the next one. Then he hits it again. I look over at his sheet and I see Jared Curtis. I point at it. He goes, oh yeah, we need him. It's like he feels he's like a part of the recruiting mission on there. I appreciated that. Clark Lee too. He Was good three days a week. Water or fasting?
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F
Yeah, he seems like. Yeah, he's pretty squared away, that guy. Pretty disciplined.
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A
Very, very disciplined. Nate went 7 and 2. Is that what you said?
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E
Wow.
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A
Him and Jelly Roll, I think going to be tied.
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D
Jelly bubble. Jelly six and two.
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A
Jelly went eight and two. Maybe we had 10 picks. The one then he wants seven and two. So I don't know which ones pick Minnesota too. Yeah, Layup.
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B
And he kind of just gave one away there.
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A
But didn't he say these are the.
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B
Same schools he did, which he's also wrong about that. But that's okay. He said he's a talent. He's a talent.
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A
I was lingering.
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B
They are. They are really lingering. I tell you what, boy, that was a fun game to watch. I feel. I told these guys I feel like I got a pretty good beat on the P.J. fleck tenure at Minnesota. Kind of know when, you know, hey, probably gonna beat in Nebraska here. And then, boy, did they just lay an egg against the Hawks. Hawks, you know, had a rushing touchdown, a passing touchdown, a punt return touchdown and a pick six all in the first half. So it was, it was a. Laughter pretty early.
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A
It was an Iowa clinic.
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B
It was, it was. And you made the succinct point on game day, Pat, of. I was always lingering, you know, no one wants to believe in them. Hey, every. Everybody thinks this team stinks. They don't score points. You know, they're going to win every game six to nothing. They're not. And boy, do they got a big one in a couple of weeks here with Oregon coming to Kinnick. And I'll tell you what, you win that one, you fucking. You pack your bags to whatever SEC school you going to be traveling to for the playoff.
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A
Okay, so when is that game against Oregon? November 8th, which is bye week this week then. You got that?
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B
Yeah. Oregon and I will both have buys this week.
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C
Oh.
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A
Two weeks to prepare for each other bigo.
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B
And now it's just kind of waiting on, hey, what time is this game going to be at? Is it going to be a night game at Kinnick, which they fare very well or you know, do we maybe get one of those sleepy cold, dreary afternoon. Yeah. 9 o' clock local start time for Oregon. We'll see.
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A
I. I don't know. Oregon's been able to handle that.
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B
They have.
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A
I don't think they would be certainly worried. And Oregon is certainly a good team. You know who else is that never gets talked about. Your hair looks awesome, AJ Just saw it from the side. Great fade. You're doing great things up there. The Ohio State Buckeyes never get talked about. I mean, never ever get number one team in the country. Reigning national champs Julian sainz complete, like 87% of his passes or something like that. Everybody's so good. Their defense hasn't really given up a touchdown. Other than the Illinois game. That's literally really the only team that's really scored on them. And nobody's even talking about + 225 to win the national championship. There's 135 schools that are vying for the national. They're + 225. Nobody's talking about a major. Do you guys like that or not like that?
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F
I like that. I would assume the coaches and everyone else likes that as well. The players can still, you know, like, handle success. How do you handle success? And their expectations are so high. The standard is so high, which is a great thing. They are the reason why the standard is that way.
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A
But.
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F
But yeah, it's another different coaching challenge, I think, to try to keep your team dialed in and never let your foot off the gas. But, yeah, it's like you don't really hear about them. I'm sure I'm going to. I have Ohio bias. I live here, whatever. So I don't hear it as much nationally. But it's true. Like, I don't Julian saying, I don't think it's the pub he deserves and I don't think the team really does either. But I think that's a great thing because we know, like, all that matters is the end of the season for Ohio State.
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A
What was this last year or two years ago? We didn't talk about Georgia. Georgia on game day. We talk about Georgia for the first six or seven weeks. And I. Georgia people are going to be surprised to hear this. I mentioned, like, are we going to talk about Georgia? Like, Georgia, I feel like they're very good. Georgia season's coming is basically what they say in the entire college football world. I think Ohio State's in that same department. Like, Ohio State season's coming. We're definitely going to talk about them. It's like, well, should we set the seed that they're very good? Everybody knows they're very good. And I think that is kind of just like the national conversation. It's like, Ohio State's really good. Who have they played? Well, they knocked off Texas. Well, what's Texas? That's a good question. How is Texas? What are they?
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B
Good question.
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A
And then you talk about the defense. They never give up any points. Yeah, but who have they? It's like there's always that. So I guess Ohio State season comes in a bit, but they're dominating people.
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D
Georgia won that year, right? In dominant fashion.
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A
Yes.
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D
That was kind of the same thing in the NBA a few years ago. Or a couple with the Celtics. Yeah. Nobody kind of talking about had short eyes just like Ohio State. So history kind of tells us that maybe they are.
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A
Yeah, maybe. This team is very good. And shout out to Ryan Day being able to continue to have success after getting to the mountaintop. Let's go to another overreaction, shall we? He's from Brandon. He's a craft handler. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but everything in Atlanta needs to go. Ownership, coaches, starters, and the most expensive backup ever. Just sell the whole package and bulldoze the dumbass stadium. Hawks and his stupid soccer team can leave, too. Atlanta ruins sports teams. All right, Brandon, that's good stadium. I would not bulldoze that stadium.
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C
That's a frustrating football team, though.
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A
Yeah, that. The Carolina pants. And then we're up, and then we get killed by the Dolphins. This guy has pink eye. He has a swollen eye, and he's wearing a visor, and he. He kills us. Tyreek Hill's not even on team this day. They're going to quit. They're going to do this entire thing. They're coming into our house, beautiful stadium, and then they lose. That's frustrating. I can see how Falcons fans are a little upside down. You're gonna be okay. Craft handler. Let's go to the next one here. This is from 69 here. Okay. No limit. Zay 99. On that note, before we go any further, no limit one, I believe. Okay. As a. As a person that grew up in that area, you can take this down here for a second, Foxy. As a person that grew up in that era, I would like to say I completely forgot that Snoop Dogg was a member of no Limit there for a bit. As the Versus was taking place this past weekend, I got a chance to catch, like, the last 30 minutes or so of it. 25 minutes or so. I love the verses. Okay. I'm a big fan through Covid. Those are huge moments for us all to watch. I mean, it was. It's a great, great thing. Cash money taken on no Limit. Massive piece of. Of my life. So I was excited to get in there. Snoop Dogg showing up for Master P. Everybody showing up for Master P was certainly a thing. And then The. Just the. The. The nostalgia of. I remember when every song that this group of people put out was just hype as. Oh, yeah, just here we go, we're going. And then Cash Money Juvenile looked good.
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D
Still in Game Shake.
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A
Juvenile was working. I mean, he had to now. He had to carry a lot of the load over there with Birdman Main Fresh. Good to see him as well, by the way. He. I remember when they got. I mean, just that whole run they took over every summer, basically, of our lives. So to see them back was good, I think. No limit 1, though. D bunch your thoughts on watching the entire. A lot of people saying no wheezy. It's gonna be tough to have Cash Money win that thing. Yeah. I mean, Snoop coming in at the very end and then leaving. I mean, that was quite a moment in that.
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D
Versus that was kind of like a Game Seven moment. I think going into it. You saw, okay, Cash Money, too many hits over the decade still pretty revelant in today's music. So it'll probably be a sweep, maybe a gentleman sweep. And then as it kind of got going on later in the game, no Limit kind of came along. Then once Snoop came in and then they played a Lil Wayne verse on Amelie without Lil Wayne being there, I think that kind of took some wind out of their sales. Juvie did show up. I think he, him and Mia X was the MVPs of the night. But it was a great little flashback right there for the old heads.
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A
It was great. Oh, yeah, I had a great time. I was just looking at my phone, just staring at my phone. Oh, I forgot about this. I didn't. I. And I also did not remember that Snoop was on that song. I've heard that song a thousand times. So many stadiums, I can't sing the song.
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E
Sure.
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A
Sure, it'd be fun to be able to karaoke, but you just can't do it.
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B
No, you can't do it.
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A
Fudge. Can't. No. Can't even.
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B
No.
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A
I mean, that's a massive piece of the entire song.
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B
It is the whole.
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A
Yeah, because. And then you're with. Yeah, because they're not your. Yours. Norse. You know, it's not really. But I could certainly.
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D
You had to be. You had to know exactly where you were, whatever venue that you were at. You had to be, you know, with your people.
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A
What's that? Yeah, at that time. Yeah, with that song.
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D
Oh, yeah.
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A
There's a lot of fighting to a lot of these songs.
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F
Songs.
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D
Wasn't a bunch of phones out during that time. I Mean, it got fighting at some point, but most times it was just some. I don't know, it was our version of mosh pit.
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A
Used to be much more hype of a society, I think, you know. Yeah, I watch NBA. YoungBoy is his arena shows.
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D
Yeah, that's like the young kids version, like Lil Wayne.
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A
I'm watching it. Yeah. And I'm like, okay. So there is still. Okay. We still got that going on in some arenas nowadays. Like, nope, that's not going on and we're not doing that. I like to see that type of stuff now. Obviously the motivating music is how I view it is going to be different for the modern age than it is for us as old. Us old ass people now. You know, like, we're not going to listen to their generation in the same way because they've lived a completely different life than us. That's why that verses is so cool. Like just going back in time basically and just kind of. That's why when I talk to Carson Daly, I met him other week, I was like, man, so reminiscent of a different time when everything was kind of banging, bang. But only the banger survive, which is why that is good. Who's up? Who's up next for that?
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D
No clue.
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A
Complex bought it. I think that's good play. It was a complex versus. They're all up on stage. Big crowd, one Manny Fresh. We got to get out of here in seven minutes.
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D
That's the thing I didn't like. I felt like it could have went on for another hour. Number one. And then the location, even that, that tweet, I think they said Louisiana. Like both of these groups were from Louisiana, New Orleans area. So you would think having the crowd there because the crowd sucked. Crowd absolutely sucked. It was in Vegas. You know, young people probably don't know a lot of the songs that were kind of some, you know, album cuts. But it was a great flashback, great time while some football was on. I was tweeting some things up like, what the hell are you talking about? Football's on right now.
- [162:43]
A
It was your tweet. It was your tweet that I saw. I. I think you said juvie's in game shape or something like that. And I was like, juvie juvenile. Oh. And then I go, I couldn't find it. Had to go to Insta, their Instagram to find the live thing. I'm like, boom, let me get in there. As soon as I get in there, Manny Fresh is walking around like, yeah, yeah. I didn't even know all the Drama that was potentially about to unfold on who's there, who's not there, and all of it. I mean, obviously that is shout out first. All right, let's move on. No limit. Zay99 hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the state of Louisiana football is in shambles right now. Brian Kelly, summer sausage looking ass out of here. Kellen Moore, strong head ass just got here and we are about ready to throw his ass out the club football gods help us. All we have is YB and LSU women B. Bo. All right, well, enjoy it all, Jose. Enjoy it all down there. I love that sausage. I love that there's a little Louisian accent in the tweed, dude. Yeah, yeah. Bow head ass looking ass. Get him the out of our town. Kelly Mo's in trouble down there.
- [163:50]
B
Yeah. Got to see Shock a little yesterday. Oh, he's starting going forward, right?
- [163:54]
A
Yeah, boy.
- [163:55]
D
Oh, he already. He already said.
- [163:57]
B
I believe they did did make that decision, so.
- [164:00]
E
That's not right.
- [164:01]
A
The thought you want Rattler, give him a little bit more opportunity.
- [164:04]
E
I just don't want Shuck to get his head had taken off. I mean, rat, whatever. I mean, they're one and seven with Rattler. I personally think he's kind of sweet. I'm worried Shuck is going to be looking left and someone's going to be coming right. Just. Just based off what I saw yesterday.
- [164:18]
A
Yeah, I. I understand that there's a chance that team's not going to be good for a bit. Wasn't that the expectation going in though, that they weren't going to be good? Right.
- [164:24]
C
Longest odds, no.
- [164:25]
F
1. I don't think a whole lot of people gave him a big much of a chance heading into the season. So. Yeah, it's not a shock, is it?
- [164:31]
E
I don't know.
- [164:31]
A
Sounds like Zay said, I don't care how bad they're supposed to be, it's worse than he could have imagined.
- [164:35]
B
Yeah, and unfortunately, they kind of put all their chips into like, well, whatever. We'll have the worst record in the NFL and we'll draft Arch number one overall next year and he'll be starting here like his grandpa did. And now that's kind of down the pooper too. So, you know, not good.
- [164:48]
E
Let t spin it. I mean, what. What are we doing? Now is the time to be like, you know what it put taste milk.
- [164:55]
A
That's tough. I mean, that's like Crosby did that to Mac Jones. All right, right, let's move along. Sorry, Z, he's on Team no limit as well. It appeared at Josh father 0017. You know, like Godfather. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but Bill's dropping a 40 burger on the Panthers. Don't mean AO probably out for the year. Allen doesn't look good and Cook is our savior, but didn't touch the ball in the last 12 minutes of the game versus the Falcons. We're losing by 50 this week. What?
- [165:23]
B
They play the Chiefs.
- [165:25]
A
What?
- [165:25]
B
What?
- [165:25]
A
Why. Why you pick this one?
- [165:28]
B
This. This was the top one. There really weren't too many.
- [165:31]
A
This is the top one.
- [165:32]
B
It was. This is. I. I came back and saw this one multiple times. I don't know if people kind of just acted like the Panthers suck, so that doesn't matter at all. But I saw a lot of, you know, a lot of this. This. It. I just kept coming back this. Wow. They're not happy with the Panthers, you know, performance, and they got the Chiefs 40 to 9. I know. What more can you ask for?
- [165:50]
A
40 to 99. That's overreaction Monday. AJ these people know whether or not they can win a Super Bowl. Let's go to the next one, shall we? This one's from Caleb. He's a Broncos fan. Caleb. Hashtag. I don't want to react, but the Denver Broncos are four points away from 8. 0. We run the AFC west this year. Bo Nicks is a dog. The defense is special. Just give us the Lombardi already. I like to hear that out of a fan base. I like to hear that on a fan base. Baseball. Now, we are one of their losses to Colts, so let's assume that we would have got one more point than you regardless. But I do like that this Broncos team is exactly what people were expecting out of them coming into the year.
- [166:26]
F
AJ Yeah, I mean, I think it's good. Do you trust Bo Nixon to lead him on a rundown, you know, for the playoffs? Can he take him to the Super Bowl?
- [166:33]
A
You think I like Bo? What are you saying?
- [166:35]
F
I do, too. I. I do, too. I do. I'm saying I don't think everybody does. For some reason, when I. When I hear people talk about him, I don't think they fully trust him. I do. I think the dude's awesome. There's a reason he had a million reps in college. He's played for a long time. I think a lot of that. I. I put a lot of. A lot into that. I think the fact that he has seen a lot in college and he's with Sean Payton Honestly. And like we. We can say a million times their defense is legit. Their deep. If you have a defense that is able to play at such an elite level, I think you always have a chance.
- [167:02]
A
Did somebody get hurt on defense for Denver? Yeah.
- [167:07]
C
He came back.
- [167:08]
E
He did not. No, he missed the second half.
- [167:10]
A
Okay. So we'll. Obviously, we should have asked Shefter about that. That's 100%.
- [167:13]
F
I love those unis, too.
- [167:15]
A
Yeah, those are good throwback. Those are good throwbacks. I like the Broncos fans are happy. And Cowboys fans, what are they? What are the Cowboys?
- [167:23]
C
Mediocre.
- [167:24]
E
They need a pass rusher.
- [167:25]
D
They need a lot on defense.
- [167:27]
E
Trevon Diggs, ir, that kind of snuck in the wire on Saturday. Yeah.
- [167:31]
D
What was that about home, right? Yeah. So we. We don't know.
- [167:34]
A
Yeah. And there's been lot of, like, talk around that. All right, let's go to the next overreaction. This is from Bryce Dean, 14. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Birds are back. Siriani and Pulo still suck, but Saquon Barkley is running wild. Tank to Tank. Bigs, be ready to come in and lighten the load. Jaylen Herz, MVP level the past two weeks and the Cowboys suck. Life couldn't get better, brother. All right, Head coach and offense square? Don't know, but everybody else is good, including the offense. That's awesome. I appreciate that. Out of Philly fans, you think they'll ever come around on Sirianni or some people will ever come around on Sirianni, A.J.
- [168:09]
F
I mean, they'll come around like every time he wins a Super bowl. And then the second he loses a game, they'll be back out.
- [168:14]
A
And even. They're winning games, though. They're even winning games.
- [168:16]
F
Right?
- [168:16]
A
It's just the way it goes, I guess. Pulo going under center D. Bu. This is what everybody said they needed to do. They do it. They have success. Why don't they love him?
- [168:23]
D
Yeah. Mixing it up. Look, Pulo, he just got to keep his blinders on, on keep calling games. And will the people against Nick come around? Probably not. Maybe after a three peat, but they've been in two of the last four Super Bowls. Fresh off of one right now. So, yeah, once Barkley gets rolling, I think Eagles fans want to see that, obviously. And then the passing game going as well. I think they'll be happy.
- [168:44]
A
What were they calling Patolo a couple weeks back?
- [168:46]
B
Oh, Kevin. You blow at calling place.
- [168:48]
A
You blow place. That was rude.
- [168:51]
B
Yeah, ridiculous.
- [168:52]
A
I didn't like like that one bit sounds like they're still not completely sold on. Let's go to the next ever reaction. It's from Chop LaRue. Hashtag, I don't want to ever react, but there's actually nothing to react to. The Dallas Cowboys have been letting me down for 35 years. That there is just numbness. All right. Sorry to hear that, chop LaRue.
- [169:09]
E
Sorry.
- [169:09]
D
Chuff spot to be.
- [169:12]
A
He's desensitized to the suck.
- [169:13]
G
Oh, man.
- [169:14]
B
Just last week, too. Coming off a big win. We're gonna trade for Max Crosby or Trey. Hey, Hendrickson. And then they just get absolutely shite stomped. And now there's just no hope anymore.
- [169:25]
A
Now they're numb.
- [169:25]
C
Yeah.
- [169:26]
A
Let's go to Barendir at Barendir X. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Lamar is coming back Thursday and it's belt to ass for Miami Ravens. Run the table and win the North. We're all the way back, baby. It's still. Hashtag fire. Horrible season after that. So. Yeah. So there's been a trend here. Seems like there's trend.
- [169:45]
B
Yes.
- [169:45]
F
Come on.
- [169:46]
A
Seems like there's a trend. Yeah, we win. We'd like that. But also don't love at all what this guy's doing. That's the head coach of this entire thing. Are fans ever going to be happy from what you're reading there, Ty?
- [169:56]
B
No. And I think, you know now, especially with what's going on in college football, I think it's just amplified. Like, there's always, you know, some of this a little bit, but people are seeing, like, well, it. We can just fire a coach right now. Who cares? We'll find someone who's better. That's. That's the way it goes.
- [170:09]
A
Yeah. And I don't know where all those coaches exist, but hopefully they'll find them. And here's the last one. This is from AJ DMire at the age 55. Hashtag, I don't want to react, but Tucker Craft is the best tight end in the league. National tight end day. And this man put the tight ends on his back. Death taxes Tucker Kraft. Yak packers bringing home the Super Bowl. Oh, and hey, AP veterans, rank the Hawkeyes. You cowards. Yak God. Go, Pack, go. And that appears to be Tucker Kraft having a good old time in a car. Hulk. So this is your burner.
- [170:40]
B
No, this is not my burner. I just said, you know what? This guy's making some very salient points. I think this should probably be in there.
- [170:46]
A
Tucker Crafts a B. Shout out to all the overreactions. We appreciate you guys. I love Tucker Craft, man.
- [170:52]
E
So good. Love that face mask, too.
- [170:54]
D
The.
- [170:54]
E
The triple thing on the side.
- [170:57]
A
TTT yeah, he's got real moxie. So much swag. And he's impossible to tackle. Aj, what are you doing? You gotta go saw the knees up, but he might need you in the head.
- [171:07]
F
Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. There's no easy way to get this guy. He's a big old dude as well.
- [171:11]
A
Helmet is awesome.
- [171:12]
F
That helmet is good. Aaron had look at Jordan's as cleats.
- [171:15]
A
Yeah, he's clean. Yeah. Tucker Craft's got the moxie, the swag, the durability, the gritty.
- [171:20]
D
They had no chance of those jerseys.
- [171:22]
A
I agree. Just coming out of the locker room. Yeah.
- [171:24]
D
They went in halftime. I think they couple of them just probably walked past the mirror. Am I doing?
- [171:30]
F
Oh, geez. Oh, shock themselves.
- [171:34]
A
We're done tackling. We're done doing anything. We're not wearing these. They put us out in public. Like, this is unblocked Aaron new helmet there, right? This is new helmet for him.
- [171:43]
F
I don't know. I was looking at that. Is it different? I know the black pads inside make it look weird.
- [171:47]
C
Yeah, he. He switched helmets for the Bengals game, so maybe go back.
- [171:52]
F
I know they made him. They made him transition out of old school.
- [171:54]
C
Aaron's been awesome. None of it's Aaron's fault, but, you know, if. If it's not broke.
- [171:59]
A
I did like Chris Collinsworth talking about how Aaron has been. Aaron was pretty proud of the mobility in extending the play because they had the time from snap to throw and then the time from snap to throw the last couple weeks. And Aaron's been able to extend the plays like he was back in the day. So it has been fun to watch him do his thing for this Pittsburgh Steelers team. Vastly different than what we think of the Steelers. Team. Offense doing well, defense doing ass.
- [172:24]
C
Yeah. Before the season, if I would have said, hey, you know, there's a weakness, it would have been the offense. And that has not been the case. And Aaron's been awesome. So, you know, shout out him, shout out dk. He's been great. But yeah, you know, the defense just sucks.
- [172:35]
D
I love how pissed off Aaron gets too.
- [172:37]
B
Oh, the best.
- [172:39]
C
What did he call someone last night?
- [172:41]
A
I think he said cop stutter. Like something around, like cops stuttering. I think he's always angry when you're going to cop something, like stuff steal something. And then he slowed down so you stutter in the copying of something? I think so. I think he said you stutter. Yeah, he said you cop stuttered. You can't be doing that obviously. So that's crazy. They even ran slow mo going into commercial of him saying that a couple times. Couple of times. Him talking about the stuttering around there. Why do you think Aaron feels about it all? Honestly? What are your thoughts?
- [173:12]
F
I think he looks like he physically feels great. Like how he is moving. I think every week he feels like it looks like he's moving a little bit better and better and his arm is very live. I don't know. I'm sure, I honestly would bet that he's sitting there thinking like, hey, this is, it's a long season. I'm not going to ride the roller coaster of ups and downs. I think he has trust in the defense. He knows they'll figure it out probably when it matters.
- [173:31]
A
And yeah, I think he's proven a lot of people wrong with how he's playing.
- [173:36]
B
Yeah.
- [173:37]
A
But also life would be a lot better if we're winning. You know, life's a lot better when we're winning. The amount of passion we talk about his reaction in saying, talking about the stuttering of the copping of stuff, what he's all in.
- [173:48]
E
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [173:49]
A
I mean it is. There's no lack or of disinterest or anything like that for him. It feels like he is very, very, very, very dialed in.
- [173:57]
D
Absolutely fully invested. He came into the season at least saying this would be his last year. I don't know where he stands on that now. But you talk about how he feels. I want to know how Cam Hayward and TJ Watt and those boys over the airfield because it's got to be a tough Monday sitting back and watching this tape and obviously, you know, having those hard conversations with each other. But you think you have the talent in that room. Guys are already making that money. It's a lot of like established vets who have played a ton of down. So it's not like you're, you're depending on young kids to try to figure it out and play a role. So I'm interested to see how that unit and that leadership turns around that.
- [174:31]
H
Side of the funny.
- [174:31]
C
You said Cam actually said there's a lack of buy in and Hart on the defensive side.
- [174:34]
D
So that's very, very concerning.
- [174:36]
B
Yeah.
- [174:37]
D
Mid season, a lack of buy in.
- [174:38]
A
And heart on his scheme.
- [174:41]
F
You think is that, what does that, does that mean what's with the scheme or what is that?
- [174:44]
A
Yeah, like people aren't buying into the scheme or the culture.
- [174:46]
D
I mean the scheme's been a scheme for 40 years at this point.
- [174:49]
A
Yeah, Julian. That's what weird knows what they're doing.
- [174:52]
C
Yeah, everybody does.
- [174:56]
A
It's funny.
- [174:56]
C
The defense corner. Everywhere he's been, the defense got worse.
- [174:59]
A
So sounds like we know who to Tony's not happy with.
- [175:02]
F
Jeez.
- [175:03]
A
And on that note, that's overreaction Monday. Good luck tonight, AJ with your Kansas City Chiefs -10.
- [175:11]
F
10. They can do it. Debut said it's probably a three score game. They're gonna win by three scores.
- [175:15]
A
If it continues the trend of this week for the NFL season. Yeah, there's a chance that's that place.
- [175:19]
F
Is going to be so loud. So imagine tonight after the anthem how loud that's going to be. It's gonna be very intimidating place to play.
- [175:24]
A
Marcus Marriott is gonna say, yeah, exactly.
- [175:27]
F
He is awesome. I do do like mar.
- [175:28]
A
I'm down one on AJ So obviously I have to pick the opposite of what he picks in this particular case. So give me these Commanders. Let's go, boys. Let's go, boys. Nobody thinks we're going to be able to do this. Nobody. They're better than they've ever been. On that other side. T Swift's going to be there.
- [175:47]
D
Damn.
- [175:47]
A
I took Joe Buck's going to be on a call. Dan Orlovsky traveled out to an rv. Yeah. Just to do NFL Live. It's big night. Everybody's there for the Patrick Mahomes show. Now, I will tell you commanders, I am excited to watch that as well. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But need you guys to keep this thing close. Maybe win it.
- [176:06]
E
Maybe. I mean, chapter said it. Mario's already won a playoff game in Arrowhead. It's not going to be louder tonight than it was when they put in the playoffs.
- [176:13]
A
Yeah, you're right. Against Alex. It's true.
- [176:14]
G
Come on.
- [176:21]
I
Chees.
- [176:24]
A
And all you think is, jeez, they're everywhere.
- [176:28]
C
Super bowl favorites.
- [176:29]
A
MVP favorite.
- [176:29]
C
How could they lose?
- [176:30]
A
Who's banging drum?
- [176:31]
B
Great question.
- [176:33]
F
Rob Riggle.
- [176:34]
A
Is he.
- [176:34]
C
No, I think it's.
- [176:35]
F
I don't know Rob or the guy from.
- [176:37]
D
What.
- [176:37]
F
What was the show?
- [176:38]
B
Eric Stone.
- [176:38]
E
Street.
- [176:39]
B
A little respect.
- [176:40]
F
There you go.
- [176:41]
A
Or Jason. Jason. Paul Rudd.
- [176:44]
F
Yeah, yeah. A lot of them.
- [176:47]
A
Who's whammy anchorman champ?
- [176:52]
B
Oh, David Keckner.
- [176:54]
A
I believe he's K City guy.
- [176:55]
F
Yeah.
- [176:56]
B
Yeah.
- [176:56]
A
What if David Keckner's on the drum tonight? You guys would be mom boy.
- [176:59]
B
Bad news.
- [177:01]
A
Bad news for the commanders.
- [177:02]
E
Yeah.
- [177:03]
B
Is Chiefs hall of famer Christian Okoye.
- [177:05]
E
Okay.
- [177:09]
B
Correct. Yeah.
- [177:09]
A
Wow. I don't like that one bit on my commander's state alarm.
- [177:13]
D
Right or no change. Look into it.
- [177:16]
A
I've dehydrated myself pretty good.
- [177:18]
F
Pound sweat jacket.
- [177:19]
B
Yeah.
- [177:20]
A
Yeah. It's been pretty. Yeah. Shout out NFL Mexico. Muchos gracious Migos. Honestly.
- [177:24]
D
Jeez.
- [177:24]
A
It's a cool jacket.
- [177:25]
D
I saw you speaking Spanish on. On my timeline.
- [177:28]
A
Zeno. Good work on that. On that dubbing. You know who this is for or Yoda.
- [177:37]
G
Mexico.
- [177:38]
F
Oh, yeah. I don't know both of them.
- [177:41]
A
I don't know. I don't know how that goes. I don't know how that goes.
- [177:45]
B
Both of them.
- [177:46]
A
We're going to stay out of any international water something shark. This one's for. This one's for the commanders.
- [177:53]
B
Okay.
- [177:53]
A
Okay.
- [177:53]
E
Come on now.
- [177:54]
F
Okay.
- [177:55]
A
Plus ten and a half. Yeah.
- [177:59]
E
It's a low rim, so probably harder.
- [178:03]
D
Too easy.
- [178:03]
A
Too easy.
- [178:05]
F
Don't overshoot it. Don't overshoot it.
- [178:07]
D
Wimby back here.
- [178:08]
A
I think if you were to think about this shot. I got to take 24 inches off this because it's down at 8ft. It was up at 10, so 24 inches. So I should turn my elbow in a little bit tighter.
- [178:21]
E
Smart.
- [178:21]
C
That distance the Coralis effect comes into.
- [178:24]
H
Right?
- [178:24]
B
Yeah.
- [178:25]
F
You're. You're in elevated position too on the. On the stage.
- [178:28]
A
So more about altitude and at altitude. So that is multiple windage. Yeah, there's no wind in here, thank God. Needed it a little bit ago. I was looking for Greece when I had that thing on. Sure. Anywhere. Can I find some air? All right, so this one's commander's plus ten and a half.
- [178:44]
B
Okay.
- [178:45]
F
Okay. Maybe Mexico.
- [178:48]
E
Good adjustment right there.
- [178:50]
A
Oh, live. Right there.
- [178:52]
F
Hand in the hoop.
- [178:53]
D
Absolute. Angela.
- [178:54]
B
Strong. That was it. Yep.
- [178:56]
C
Bang.
- [178:59]
E
It. Nice. That went in online.
- [179:03]
F
Yeah.
- [179:05]
A
Should have went a little stronger.
- [179:06]
B
That really was the perfect parabola.
- [179:08]
C
You shoot the wrong size ball that hoops only used to spin.
- [179:12]
A
There it is calibrated too far.
- [179:19]
F
It's eight foot hoop command hard.
- [179:23]
A
We are commanders.
- [179:29]
D
Oh, no.
- [179:32]
F
Get the beat out of.
- [179:33]
A
I didn't like it from the very beginning. You guys heard me. I didn't like it at all.
- [179:37]
C
It's true.
- [179:40]
F
Yeah.
- [179:40]
C
I like what you're doing.
- [179:41]
B
Yep.
- [179:41]
C
Yeah.
- [179:41]
E
There you go.
- [179:42]
B
Yeah.
- [179:42]
C
That's a U ball hoop.
- [179:43]
E
That's meant for.
- [179:44]
A
That hoop was finished.
- [179:46]
D
Finish off the shite slate.
- [179:48]
F
Get deboned to do a 360 dunk or something on that eight footer from.
- [179:51]
D
Your free throw line.
- [179:52]
E
You're asking for Achilles.
- [179:54]
A
Yeah.
- [179:56]
D
That might take the wall down.
- [179:57]
A
Debone heard that he's gonna try to do that today. And when this wall falls. Exactly. Debun. That's on you, A.J.
- [180:02]
B
Yep.
- [180:03]
A
Okay. The whole brick wall.
- [180:05]
F
I mean, it's not.
- [180:06]
A
The whole brick wall falls off.
- [180:08]
E
Just hope his body doesn't make a mess.
- [180:10]
A
So this one is that. This one is. Is. This one is actually.
- [180:15]
B
Here we go.
- [180:18]
A
Yeah.
- [180:18]
F
Tuck the elbow. There it is.
- [180:19]
A
Yeah.
- [180:24]
E
Oh, it's the elevated position. That's all. That's all. That's just the elevate you got.
- [180:30]
B
You didn't cock your elbow enough on the first one.
- [180:32]
E
Yeah.
- [180:35]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [180:36]
E
See?
- [180:36]
B
Lock it and load it.
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D
Good lines.
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A
I don't feel good about any of it tonight. All right.
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F
Throw football.
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A
Might as well punt.
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C
Yeah, you might as well.
- [180:47]
F
Yeah. There you go.
- [180:50]
B
Got it.
- [180:51]
F
Oh, it's pretty good.
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C
I don't mind.
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A
That was bad.
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F
Okay.
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E
Commanders, this one's for. Yep.
- [181:06]
A
This one's for all the marble.
- [181:07]
B
Okay.
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C
Yep.
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D
I'm changing my pick.
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A
Golly. I didn't like it one bit.
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E
Well, commander's minus three.
- [181:16]
D
No, chief. Chief. Alternate. Line chiefs minus 17 and a half.
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C
Oh, you all spread it.
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D
16 and a half. Sorry.
- [181:25]
A
Be a friend. Something else might change your life for. That was poor performance. Warmer. I don't like it.
- [181:33]
F
It's eight foot hoop.
- [181:34]
A
That's what I'm saying, though. I got to be able to mentally adjust to that. I got to be able to change.
- [181:38]
D
Look at the court.
- [181:41]
A
It's a cemetery. Just misses failures everywhere.
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D
Jeez.
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F
It won't get better.
- [181:49]
A
We will. And we'll be back tomorrow to overreact to what happens tonight as the Washington commanders. Keep it close. Close. Maybe even win. There's chance.
- [182:00]
F
Yep.
- [182:00]
A
Against Kansas City chiefs. All right, A.J. you're the man. We love you, buddy.
- [182:05]
F
Thank you, guys. Love you guys.
- [182:06]
A
Thank you for speaking about Nick. I. I so. I know that's not easy, but I. It's good. I think it's good for people to hear, you know, So I appreciate you doing that. And I know we only playing for a little bit of time. I should have. I appreciate you doing that. Just know that we all love you and his family and friends. Dude, we are so sorry that that happened. Okay.
- [182:24]
F
Appreciate it. Yeah, man. Thank you. Yeah. Nick had a gigantic impact on legit. So many people, like, that's hopefully, I. I think very, very positive influence on everyone. Even people don't know him. So that's what I. I love seeing through all this, all the terribleness. Like you see the impact he did have on people. It's. It's awesome. I got to see it firsthand.
- [182:43]
A
Good, dude. All right, be your friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. T. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three.
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F
Team.
- [182:50]
A
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