The Pat McAfee Show (PMS 2.0 1439) – October 28, 2025
“BA Day with Bruce Arians, MNF Recap, World Series Game 3 Recap, Daniel Jones, Karl Ravech, & AJ Hawk”
Episode Overview
This episode, live from the Thunderdome, is a classic “BA Day” anchored by Pat McAfee and cohosted by Super Bowl-winning coach Bruce Arians, with recurring guest AJ Hawk, the Toxic Table crew (Boston Connor, Ty Schmidt), and Tone Digs. The show covers a wide scope: the unusual blowout-heavy NFL Sunday and a Monday night dominated by the Kansas City Chiefs; a marathon World Series game and Shohei Ohtani’s historic heroics; a wide-ranging interview with Colts QB Daniel Jones on his surprising season; the business and chaos of rapid-fire coaching changes in college football; the latest in NFL refereeing controversies; and a celebration of BA’s “All-BA” midseason NFL team. All this, delivered at the signature wild pace and tone that makes PMS unique.
Key Segments & Discussion Highlights
[00:00–03:41] Opening Banter & NFL Recap
Main Theme: NFL Week 8 Blowouts and the Chiefs’ Return to Form
- Pat welcomes everyone to “BA Day,” introduces Bruce Arians (decked out in full Virginia Tech Hokies gear), and sets the tone for the episode.
- NFL rarity: Only one game during the previous Sunday was decided by one score, something that hasn’t happened in 55 years. (01:01)
- Pat McAfee: “Only one game on the entire slate was a one score game. ... Next time this will predicted to happen 2080.”
- Monday Night Football (Chiefs vs. Commanders): Game started ugly with turnover-laden drives, but the Chiefs snapped to life for a convincing 28–7 win.
- Notable stat: The public (70% of money) won with the Chiefs, and favorites went 11–2 ATS—best in 40 years (02:51).
[03:41–05:46] Chiefs Analysis with Bruce Arians
- Chiefs defense “starting to play like Chiefs defense,” especially against the run.
- Arrowhead “toughest place to play,” per Arians, sharing a freezing-cold memory from coaching there.
- Chiefs’ average margin of victory is up; Travis Kelce is “getting younger,” and “Chiefs are who we thought they were.”
[05:46–14:38] World Series Marathon: Dodgers vs. Blue Jays
Main Theme: Instant Classic Game, Shohei Ohtani’s Immortal Night
- Pat pivots to World Series overlap with MNF: “That quickly became a World Series night for me... instant classic.”
- Ty Schmidt recaps the marathon Dodgers–Blue Jays Game 3:
- Shohei Ohtani homered twice off Max Scherzer; Kirk homers for Toronto, making it back-and-forth all night.
- Game goes to the 18th inning, ending at 2:35am Eastern.
- Pat McAfee: “Freddie Freeman in the bottom of the 18th, full count—he goes yard, walk-off homer, Dodgers win 6-5.” (09:22)
- Shohei on base 9 times—MLB record. From the 7th inning on, he was intentionally walked multiple times.
- Ohtani to pitch next night: is this the greatest 24-hour performance in modern baseball?
- MLB’s future: Pat and the crew marvel at Ohtani’s splitfinger, curveball, and overall pitch arsenal (12:08).
- Ty Schmidt: “Best baseball player ever. Is there an argument he’s just the best athlete of all time, across all sports?” (14:32)
Notable Quote
- Pat McAfee (re Shohei Ohtani):
“This guy is absolutely outrageous. This is the greatest baseball player of all time.” — [11:27]
[14:38–18:35] Shohei & 'Greatest Athlete' Debate
- Debate around Ohtani’s mental makeup, being “born that way,” compared to Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Serena Williams, Wayne Gretzky, etc.
- Bruce Arians: “[Ohtani] is just literally ultra-refocused, takes care of his body like nobody else.”
- More color on Ohtani’s multi-sport, multi-tool dominance: Mentions his 50+ stolen bases, ability to throw 100mph and hit at 100mph exit velo.
[19:41–25:51] Colts QB Daniel Jones: Full Interview
Theme: A Surprising Season and Locker Room Culture
- Daniel Jones joins: Light tone—Pat jokes, “Congrats on another win. You didn’t do shit, but congrats.”
- Jones candid on why the Colts gel quickly:
- Daniel Jones: “Football... it’s everything working together... never really know until you get out there and start playing, but I honestly did [feel confident in the spring]...” (21:57)
- On Jonathan Taylor’s resurgence: “He’s playing unbelievable right now.”
- Locker room and Indy fandom: Jones acknowledges the city’s energy, describes the fans' embrace, and how the team has become the city's darlings.
Notable Moment & Quote
- On the “celebrity lookalike” Indiana Jones bit at the stadium:
Daniel Jones: “You know the camera’s on you, everybody’s looking at you. Act like you’re doing something you’d be doing if you didn’t know...” (24:36)
[25:51–32:41] Colts’ Offense, Receivers, and Coaching
- Wideouts Pittman, Josh Downs, and Alec Pierce get shoutouts for unselfish team play.
- Tyler Warren (rookie TE) “does the instinctive thing you’d hope someone does, really, naturally... he’s tough as shit.”
- On Shane Steichen’s impact: Jones says Steichen’s “positive, detailed, collaborative” preparation has been transformative.
Notable Moment
- Pat McAfee (on Steichen’s playcalling):
“Every play is going to be a 15, 20 yarder, and the next one’s going to be a 15, 20 yarder.”
[36:38–46:13] Colts Defense and NFL Leadership Culture
- Pat and BA praise defensive coordinator Lou Anarumo’s impact.
- Jones on locker room culture:
- “You can sense how energetic the city is... the support we have... people here are awesome.”
- Discussion on coaches’ handling of public criticism and accountability—Arians stresses that “as head coach, you reflect it all back to yourself.”
- Commentary on the weirdness/downside of “players only” meetings—signaling a team in strife.
[46:13–55:16] Coaching Carousel in College Football
Theme: Money & The Ruthless Reality for Coaches
- LSU’s Brian Kelly gets bought out after a wild season—do high-profile coaches really see it coming?
- Bruce Arians: “I don’t think those guys do. ... I think they think, ‘I’m invincible and I’ll right this ship.’”
- Pat/Panel delve into the political realities for CFB: donors, boosters, firing timelines, paying massive buyouts (e.g., $54 million).
- Debate: Is the money-corrupted, donor-driven system now ungovernable?
- Broader conversation: Are there enough quality coaches for this endless churn? Will programs keep firing coaches into oblivion?
[56:20–56:59] MLB Deep Dive with Karl Ravech
- Ravech joins for insight on “unreal” 18-inning game and what’s to come with Ohtani pitching.
- Debate over intentional walks and whether MLB should limit how many times a star can be walked per game.
- Ravech: “Do we need an Ohtani rule? Should we limit the amount of times...?”
[59:04–61:59] Monday Night Football & NFL Analysis with AJ Hawk
Theme: Chiefs’ Offensive Growth & Mahomes’ Mentality
- Chiefs offense may be more potent than ever; Bruce Arians notes re-emerging speed after Tyreek Hill’s departure, Rashee Rice’s impact.
- Arians’ warning: “I just wish Pat [Mahomes] would get out of bounds some. He took some hits he don’t need.”
- Chiefs defense “playing lights out,” Mahomes’ competitive drive sometimes putting himself at risk.
[61:59–68:55] NFL Referee Controversies
Theme: “Get The Call Right!”—Pat & BA’s Ref Fixes
- Panel discusses high-profile missed calls and “forward progress” rulings, especially regarding the Eagles’ “tush push.”
- Bruce Arians: “If you can’t referee the play, the play’s got to get out of the game.”
- Pat & BA call for a “player pipeline” for officials: former players trained as refs for better feel, more accuracy.
- Pat McAfee: “If we can recruit former players to become officials... you’d get guys that appreciate the job, know the job, and also aren’t scared.”
[72:11–83:41] Running Backs’ Resurgence & Position Value
- BA’s “BS or No BS”—Are RBs getting paid and are modern backs now more valuable?
- Bruce Arians: “That’s no BS... what separates the young guys is they’re great receivers.”
- Running backs must be multidimensional: run, catch, and block—think Gibbs, Achane, Bijan, McCaffrey.
- AJ Hawk: “Reggie Bush in Detroit... trying to cover him out wide from linebacker... creates matchup issues everywhere.”
- Evolution: The modern “third-down” back is now a must-have, changing how offenses are built.
[83:41–96:13] NFL Coaching Hot Seat – “BS or No BS”
- Entire AFC North allegedly on the hot seat—coaches like Tomlin, Harbaugh, Stefanski, Zach Taylor all mentioned.
- BA agrees: Only winning the division is job security, 9–8 could win it, one team keeps job, “rest probably looking for a job.”
- Big question: Is there a strong enough pipeline of talented replacements if NFL/CFB continues to churn through coaches?
[99:04–101:59] “Big Dom,” Leadership, and Team Culture
- “Big Dom” of the Eagles, legendary team security and fixer, highlighted for embodying the team & Philly ethos.
- Pat ties this into “portal” era of college recruiting: “pre-portalling” players with dinners and gifts, blurring lines of tampering.
[102:22–105:17] Carson Wentz & the “Live or Die” QB Mentality
- Wentz’s reckless, all-or-nothing playing style—similar to Andrew Luck.
- Bruce Arians: “You want that mentality, but... he misses too many easy ones. Consistency and accuracy is the only thing I’d hold back.”
- Value of mental and physical risk-taking—doesn’t always win championships but earns respect.
[107:12–115:09] BA’s Midseason “All-BA” NFL Team
See detailed list below
- Arians handpicks the AFC/NFC’s midseason top players/coaches by position (QB, RB, TE, WR, OL, D, K, Coach).
- Thoughtful explanations for each pick—Arians focuses on multidimensional impact, toughness, and surging teams.
- Special salute to new head coaches, breakout tight ends (Tyler Warren, Tucker Kraft), electrifying rookies (Jameer Gibbs), and vets like Matthew Stafford.
Example Quote (Offensive Line)
- Bruce Arians: “Detroit Lions. They’re playing lights out, giving Jared Goff great protection. That running game is amazing.”
[115:16–122:46] Celebratory Banter & Awards
- Pat & crew hype up the “All-BA” team and discuss (in classic PMS fashion) everything from team Halloween parties to the value of beer and cards for locker room chemistry.
- AJ & Pat: Team chemistry, off-field bonds, and their tangible impact on winning—“the more you can be around each other at different states of mind, the better.”
[160:28–172:45] Closing: Birthday Salutes & UBall Hijinx
- The episode ends with the awarding of game balls and a birthday celebration for Bruce, one of the PMS crew.
- Usual ribbing, sports tangents, and Pat’s sign-off: “Be a friend, tell a friend something nice. Might change their life. We’re in this thing together...”
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)
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On Shohei Ohtani
Pat McAfee: “This is the greatest baseball player of all time.” [11:27]
Ty Schmidt: “Bar none. Not even, not even remotely close.” [11:30] -
On NFL Referees
Bruce Arians: “If you can’t referee the play, the play’s got to get out of the game.” [67:17] -
On Daniel Jones in Indy
Pat McAfee: “You’re a hero here... Daniel Jones could be governor of Indiana right now, could be mayor of the city, could literally be anything.” [24:52]
Daniel Jones: “You can definitely sense just how energetic the city is... people here are awesome.” [25:22] -
On Modern RBs
Bruce Arians: “I think what separates these young guys… is they’re great receivers.” [75:07] -
On Head Coach Job Security
Bruce Arians: “Whoever wins the division gets to come back next year. I think the other three are probably looking for a job.” [83:57]
BA’s All-BA Midseason Team (Selections Highlighted Throughout Show)
COACHES
- AFC: Shane Steichen, Indianapolis Colts (For maximizing Daniel Jones; culture change)
- NFC: Todd Bowles, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6–2 record amid injuries)
QB
- AFC: Drake Maye, New England Patriots
- NFC: Matthew Stafford, LA Rams
RB
- AFC: Jonathan Taylor, Colts
- NFC: Jameer Gibbs, Detroit Lions
TE
- AFC: Tyler Warren, Colts
- NFC: Tucker Kraft, Packers
WR
- AFC: Jamar Chase, Bengals
- NFC: Jackson Smith-Njigba, Seahawks
OL
- AFC: Indianapolis Colts
- NFC: Detroit Lions
DEFENSE
- AFC: Houston Texans
- NFC: Seattle Seahawks
KICKER
- AFC: Chris Boswell, Steelers
- NFC: Brandon Aubrey, Dallas Cowboys
Timestamps for Key Segments
- [00:00–03:41]: Opening & MNF Recap — Chiefs, NFL blowouts
- [05:46–14:38]: World Series Marathon, Shohei Ohtani history
- [19:41–36:38]: Daniel Jones Interview (Colts run & culture)
- [46:13–55:16]: Coaching firings in college football
- [59:04–61:59]: NFL recap w/ AJ Hawk, Mahomes chat
- [61:59–68:55]: NFL refs controversy & solutions
- [83:41–96:13]: AFC North hot seats & hiring dilemmas
- [107:12–115:09]: BA’s All-BA midseason team reveal
Final Thoughts
Episode 1439 is a dynamic, overstuffed playground of sports banter, sharp analysis, and inside stories. From Shohei Ohtani’s all-time World Series magic to deep dives on Colts culture, NFL coaching existential threats, and Arians’ midseason awards, this is PMS at its chaotic, insightful best. You’ll walk away entertained, informed, and eager for the next wild news cycle.
[This summary was designed to be navigable for new listeners, providing detailed context, contextually formatted highlights, and representative quotes in the show’s own off-the-cuff, fun, and deeply knowledgeable tone.]
