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PMS 2.0 1439 - BA Day with Bruce Arians, MNF Recap, World Series Game 3 Recap, Daniel Jones, Karl Ravech, & AJ Hawk
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Pat McAfee
Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this BA Day, October 28, 2025. This program begins right now.
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Daniel Jones
Football.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I love that. Ladies and gentlemen, that's the man who coached 47 years of football. He's our super bowl champion, our coach. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Coach BA hey, good cadence today. Felt like that really came from your soul as you're wearing bright Orange and Maroon 4 for the Virginia Tech Hokies. I do believe you're representing here all day today, baby. Okay, so you got the shoes as well, Foxy. I don't know if you've showcased. I mean, he is swagging as he was walking in this place. Hokied out of his mind. You guys still in the middle of a coaching search right now, right?
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Bruce Arians
Yes, we are.
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Pat McAfee
And you're trying to find the best out there.
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Bruce Arians
The best.
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Pat McAfee
A lot of jobs open, BA A lot of jobs open.
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Bruce Arians
I think more to come.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think so. I believe it a scary time to be a college football coach. If you're not winning games and your team is expecting you to win games and your boosters are expecting you to win games. One half of the hammer done. Cowboys AP Tone is here. You look sweet. Toxic table at Boston Conner and at Ty Schmidt. Great to see you boys. And they've done it, ladies and gentlemen. The NFL for the first time in 55 years has done it more than half a century it took for this magical moment to take place. Only one game on the entire slate was a one score game. This is the first time that's happened since 1970. That's 55 years. The next time this will predicted to happen 2080. So the NFL is saying we had one bad weekend, okay, in 55 years. And I'd like to let them know. Going into the night we thought there was a chance it was going to be a blowout. Especially with Kansas City Chiefs being the Kansas City Chiefs at this point in time. Now that was an ugly game. I believe it was like the first five out of the six possessions was a turnover of some sort. Either interception or on Dons. Patrick Mahomes is throwing interceptions and Marcus Mario said, don't you worry about, I'll do one of those as well. And Patrick Holmes was like, wait, I got more out here now. Travis Kelsey was bumbling, fumbling earlier. They had real shit. I mean it was a shitty game taking place on that football field. And then all of a sudden, boom. The Kansas City Chiefs start to do what Kansas City Chiefs start doing. And Then Travis Kelce starts going absolutely absurd. Roshi Rice gets in the end zone and inevitably the Kansas City Chiefs win 287 in a game that was not very thrilling. But it is nice to know that these Chiefs is all the way back. The Chiefs are going to be who we thought they were going to be coming into this season. The Chiefs are who they have been over the last few years. Travis Kelce's getting younger. I saw him in the open field trying a little two steps on people and obviously he's making some mag. But with what Patrick Mahomes is able to do on any given football field at any given moment, we all understand how good the Chiefs could be. Now they're playing like it. So shout to the Chiefs being all the way back and maybe even better, maybe even better than ever. Now. They were the public favorite last night, I do believe 70% of the money. So jot that one down for the public getting a win over the sportsbook. Any other numbers hit in that particular game, Tone?
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Tone
Yeah. So more importantly, on the, on the week, favorites went 11 and 2 against the spread, which is the best record for favorites against the spread in the last 40 years. So yes, they were shite games mostly because all the favorites were blowing everybody out. So that'll happen once every 50 years. Once every 40 years we're in for.
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Bruce Arians
Some more good football.
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Pat McAfee
They is who we thought they is. Is what happened this weekend when it came to gambling. Kansas City has now outscored its opponent by 83 points this season. That's the greatest margin through eight games since 2020. And we all remember 2020. Oh, what a team. Time team. Yeah. Team. Yeah. Chiefs average margin of victory in 202519 and 2024 7.1. So they're winning a little bit more decisively. Coach Ba what are you seeing now versus maybe what they were last year in years past whenever they were playing a different style. Is this team only going to get better and is this the Chiefs that we've come to fear rest of the league?
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Bruce Arians
Yeah, I think so.
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Pat McAfee
They're getting better, they're getting healthier.
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Bruce Arians
Receive Rice obviously makes a big difference in that offense. But their defense is starting to play like Chiefs defense. They ended stopping the run. They're getting after the quarterback and man, it's tough to win an Arrowhead. What a great place to play football. I coached there for four years and went in there as a visitor. Was the best crowd ever.
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Pat McAfee
Coldish. Do you remember? Oh God. He was. He was interim head coach whenever Chuck Pagano was Battling through leukemia and BA was a coach. One of our final, I think our last game of the season was at Kansas City. Kansas City was already out. It was freezing ass cold. I mean, freezing ass cold. I believe the halftime speech was let's get a win and get the fuck out of here. I believe was the soup. Yeah, that was exactly the speech that he gave. And it was like they were still filled up though. It was freezing ass cold. They had no chance. Place was still filled up. These Chiefs fans deserve this. And it seems like there's more trophies heading to the home of the cheese Now. Yesterday I was pretty vocal about the scheduling of certain things. Yes, you. Okay. It is football season. It's a Monday night. That's Monday Night Football time. Why do we have the World Series happening? That I'm actually interested in. Okay. I'm actually interested in this year for maybe a few others in the past, I've certainly been interested as we got some static picking up here on the set there. But I've certainly been more interested in this one. Mostly because what Shohei and the boys have been doing have been absolutely electrifying. And then the Blue Jays, this team from Toronto, bunch of dogs. I mean, the way they're built, literally physically watching them play baseball, it's like I love this team, them going against Monday Night Football, especially with the Chiefs playing. I'm like, why are we doing that? Thank God they were happening last night. I mean, that quickly became a World Series night for me on the tv, which I would never like to admit publicly in this. Then what I found out when I woke up this morning, two hours after the game ended is when I woke up. This thing was an instant classic. A record breaker tie. Last night was historic in the World Series. What took place?
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, without a doubt. And you know, it's funny you mentioned that because I think that was actually the MLB's plan was, hey, all these people who are going to want to watch Monday Night Football, we're going to go ahead and just play two games. Not to bury the lead there, but if you did watch the entirety of Monday Night Football, you could have still switched over to Dodgers, Blue Jays and watched an entire nine inning baseball game. It was absolutely unbelievable. Starting in the third inning, you, I mean, you mentioned him. Shohei is. You just can't pitch to this guy. Max Scherzer, one of the best big game pitchers of all time. And Shohei takes him yard to give the Dodgers a two nothing lead. I mean, early on is just. Okay, we get it. This is going to be kind of wacky. And then you mentioned it. The guys, the way they're built in Toronto, the wobble body. Alejandro Kirk, he just, I mean it does. It looks like I was going to be a lazy pop fly. Boom. Home run to straightaway center. Blue Jays take.
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Pat McAfee
I love him by the way. He might be my favorite baseball player outside of Paul Skain. Hey, Otani, that guy might be my favorite baseball player.
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Ty Schmidt
So also a little tidbit on him. He got signed initially to the Blue Jays for $15,000. They saw him in Mexico at some like open workout. 58 guy catcher, obviously built the way he, he was. He accepted like a fifteen thousand dollar signing bonus and that's what got him into the maze.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. So I love him even more, guys. Okay, that makes sense.
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Ty Schmidt
Exactly. So he's, he's unbelievable.
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Pat McAfee
Good eye by me. I feel like just eyeing him. I could see this guy's got a good story. I think I like him. Didn't even know. It was like a. Hey. Found out of nowhere. There's no way he's supposed to be in the mlb. There's no way he's supposed to be hitting bombs in the World Series. That guy's a dog.
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Ty Schmidt
Exactly. He's unbelievable. And fast forward to the bottom of the fifth inning. Freddie Freeman after sh otan doubles. Freddie Freeman. This guy is about as clutch as they come. He rips one down the line and Shohei gets in there to knock the game up at 4 4. I mean this, it was just, it was like this all night. Just back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. Then we go to the top of the seventh. Boba Shet, who is a guy who has been hurt. He's one of their best players. He gets in and rips Vladdy chugging along and he's had a couple unbelievable slides. Boom. Picture perfect. Tag home. I don't remember if they have the replay on here, but he basically he slides in and kind of like alters his body because he can tell that the tag is going to be coming in. It was absolutely unbelievable. So here, here we are, you know, I mean you're thinking at this point, okay, this, this one might be over. Blue Jays got all the momentum. Yeah, exactly. 5 4. Once again, why are they pitching this guy? Shohei eats one right down the middle. Oppo shot pretty much still, still the, you know, dead center five five ties the game up. And then we go to the top of the ninth. Okay. This is a very, you know, in a game of a lot of homers unsung moment here. This is why defense really matters in baseball. Dalton Varsho rips one down line. Freddy Freeman, who's very reliable, goes off his glove. But Tommy Edmond has a heady play, corrals the ball, and then, boom, he gets Isaiah Kiner Falafa at third base to. I mean, that's. That's huge. You know, they say a lot of times in baseball, you can't make the second or the third out at third base because they got the big bats coming up, and boom, that's a runner that's no longer in scoring position. And then so we kind of stayed pat for a little bit. We go all the way. 14.
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Pat McAfee
That thing says.
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Ty Schmidt
Exactly. Bottom of the 14th, place still packed. Play still packed. Will Smith and everyone in Dodger Stadium thought they had it. He. He kind of pimps it a little bit. Oh, a couple features. I mean, it doesn't get much closer than that. So that's the 14th inning. Okay, let's fast forward to the top of the 18th inning.
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Pat McAfee
What time is this? Eastern?
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Ty Schmidt
Eastern. This was probably about 2:32,35.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so it's 11:30, 11:35. Pacific Time.
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Foxy
Correct.
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Pat McAfee
We got to think about. Because this actually ends up paying off for him, because if this is Eastern time playing, you're talking early morning. Maybe not as many people in his stands.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly. But still packed in the top of the 18th. And then another very unsung guy for the DOD, Rogers, Will Klein, strikes out. Tyler Hyneman at this point, like, Tyler Hyneman was the last guy on the bench for the Blue Jays. He was the last player who could play in the game. But because it goes on so long like they have no. That was his third at bat. He strikes out. And then again this, you know, just in a group of a lot of clutch guys. Freddie Freeman in the bottom of the 18th, full count. He goes yard walk off homer to center. The Blue Jays just. Boy, hard to stomach that one. Dodgers win 6 5. They take a 21 series lead. And they play again tonight at 8pm.
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Pat McAfee
Not just play tonight. Okay. Obviously history there. And Freddy Freeman's. Is this his last year? No, no, Kershaw's last year.
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Ty Schmidt
Correct. He pitched last night as well. He got a big out in extra innings.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so Freddie Freeman, we met him at the All Star. He's so cool. Yes, he is very cool. Obviously. Bottom of the 18th, hitting a dinger center field has to feel immaculate. They got to turn around now. They got a game tonight. And Shohei Otani's last night, Jo A was on base how many times?
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Ty Schmidt
Nine times. So he, in his first four bats through the, what, seventh inning, he was 4 for 4 with four extra base hits, including two homers. From that point on the entire second game they played, he got intentionally walked four times. And then his fifth at bat, very late. It wasn't an intentional walk, but they just pitched around him, didn't give him any compet. So like they decided after the first game they played, we're not pitching to this guy again. And it was the right move because every time they pitched to him, he killed him.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. So Shohei gets on base nine times last night.
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Ty Schmidt
Correct.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. Hits a couple dingers, ties it up, has a let's go. Which is reminiscent in that, that's something in baseball.
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Ty Schmidt
Kurt Gibson guy doing this thing for the Dodgers.
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Foxy
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Shohei has a little bit of one of those things while he's going to second base whenever he ties it up. 5, 5 at the end of this whole thing. But whenever you think about him getting on base nine times and then tonight he's starting pitcher, I mean, this guy's special.
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Foxy
Oh yeah.
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Pat McAfee
This guy is absolutely outrageous. This is the greatest baseball player of all time.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Bar none. Not even, not even remotely close.
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Pat McAfee
Like right now, people are gonna say, well, if he does it for 10.
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Ty Schmidt
Years, I think he's won what, three MVPs in a row. He's won a World Series. Like no, I, I, I don't even think, I really don't think there's an argument to be made anymore. And that's hard for me to say because I'm a big time Yankees fan and I think Aaron Judge is, you know, one of the best hitters on the planet. It's not even close how much better this guy is than everybody.
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Pat McAfee
Here's some Hembo stats on Shohei Otani, who's not only growing the game obviously here, but internationally in a huge way. I can't even imagine what the Japan numbers are going to be for that particular game. Especially with sleep cycles. There's two baseball games back to back. They could have caught it at any time.
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Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
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Pat McAfee
Over there. He's first in MLB history to reach base nine times in a postseason game. First in MLB history with three multi home run games in a single postseason. Intentionally walked in 9th, 11th, 13th and 15th. Four pitch in 17th. Shohei has reached base in 10 straight plate appearances. Single to end Bob MLB record for consecutive PA. Yeah. Plate appearances reaching in a single World Series. So everything's back. Oh yeah, he's starting pitcher tonight. For the Los Angeles Dodgers. And when you think about his pitching this. I did a deep dive. BA you were there with me. I was with you, baby. I took a deep dive in this thing. You know, he, he can move that thing in all the directions. Oh, he could take that ball a little bit north there. He's got a four seamer there. Okay, that rise is about 18 inch. He can take that thing solid with a curveball. Guess what? That goes about 18 inches. You do some math. That's 36 inches vertical movement. Okay, that's outrageous, is it not? And then let's talk about the horizontal, the east, west, if you will. He's going to sink a splitter that go more than 30 inches in different, different directions. He's 30 by 36. This guy. Movement. This is just some ass pitcher. This guy's a guy, he's got a splitter, he's got a sinker, he's got a sweeper, he's got a fastball. I mean, he's got all the pitches out there and he's also getting on base nine different times. So today, I mean, just 24 hour period here for Shohei could be what, one of the most special in the history of baseball, I'd assume is how this will be talked about.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I mean, he's just stacking them up at this point after his last, you know, last outing as a pitcher, striking out 10 guys in six innings and hitting three homers. I mean, it just, it's, it's ridiculous. And going into tonight's game, like the big thing now too is both teams used everybody in the bullpen. Every guy that was available had to pitch last night. You have some guys who are typically used to throwing maybe 1, 1 inning and you know, like a handful of pitches. Like they had guys who had to throw 40 pitches last night just because they buy out of necessity. If Shohei has his best stuff, that, that eliminates the need for them to go to the bullpen. Like you're, you're just looking at the starters. And while I've kind of always said he's unbelievable, I, I. His hitting though is, is far superior to his pitching. When he's on. He's still one of the best guys in baseball. So if he can give them six innings and eliminate, you know, the bullpen like that, it is just such a massive advantage. Like it, it'll be tough, but for the Blue Jays losing that game last night, it might just be like, how, how much do you have left? Because it's just, just it's a kitchen sink game tonight. Like, you just have to get lucky and throw everything and hope that you get the Shohei early.
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Foxy
Yeah. So, best baseball player ever. Is there an argument to be made that he's just the best athlete of all time across all sports?
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Pat McAfee
I mean, that's going to become a conversation, is it not? How long can he do this? I guess everybody is expecting him not to be able to do this for that long. Is he going to be able to do this for the foreseeable future? Because I think my research told me too, that maybe, you know, when I get to the Dodgers, the way they kind of develop pitching, he might just be only getting better and better as a pitcher. Just like as people kind of get older, especially in la, Dodgers kind of system. And then. I haven't even talked about this. He's able to do things that not a lot of other people are able to do. He throws a sinker out of a high slot. So optically for the hitter, I mean, that's just a completely different ball game. He's doing things people haven't seen before. So greatest athlete of all time is certainly a fascinating question. Like, how long does he have to do it for? I think is all anybody will use for the judge. Like that is all the argument in my eyes. I love the guy. Let's just put him on. Literally hard to put him on Rushmore of everything immediately, but as soon as I heard that this guy could throw the ball 100 miles an hour accurately and 100 miles an hour off the bat, was that like three years ago when he was with the Angels or whatever? It's like this guy's greatest baseball player of all time. Baseball people at the time, rightfully so, saying, let's see, let's see. Yeah, let's hold the horses here. Now he's proven a ba. When you think about this type of competitor, this type of athlete, what is it? Do you think it's his ment? Obviously he's physically gifted like hell, but his mentality is just one of those different ones that the greats have. Oh, I don't think there's any doubt.
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Bruce Arians
But you can't throw in 50 stolen bases.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Bruce Arians
Which is crazy.
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Foxy
Damn.
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Bruce Arians
For a pitcher, a hitter and 50 stolen bases, I mean, that's the one that just puts him over the top for me.
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Pat McAfee
What do you think his mentality is, though? Do you think he's been locked in like this since he was a kid? Is he just born?
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Bruce Arians
Everything, Everything I hear about him, he is just literally ultra Refocused, takes care of his body like nobody else can do all these things. And just every single day taking care of himself, getting ready to go.
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Pat McAfee
So Peyton and Tom, obviously are at a different level. Do you think these guys are born this way? Women too, as well. Serene, obviously. I don't want to take anything away from any of the greatest female athletes of all time, but I think they're born that way. Don't you think? When I saw Peyton, I was like, this guy's in a alien. Like, his mentality is an alien. Like, I consider myself a rather competitive person. I think I have a good work ethic. I think I'm able to lock in. Then you see like an actual robot happen next to you, and you're like, oh, my God, there's levels to this entire thing. And then Tom Brady, obviously they talk about that as the same Michael Jordan, Kobe, you talk about these guys. That Wayne Gretzky, I think is. Is even another. Everybody at the top is like, born that way. Do you think that can be coached or you think it's just like a special trait that only some people have?
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Bruce Arians
I think they have the trait. There has to be some really good hands put on them somewhere along the line to get him to. In the right direction. You know, all those. Tom, Peyton, those guys had great college quarterback coaches and coaches. I think Shohei and everybody else. The Dodgers pitching system we talked about. He's just going to get better, better and better.
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Pat McAfee
He's only going to get better. I think that is crazy to think about.
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Bruce Arians
And his stroke isn't going anywhere. That stroke is unbelievable. It's not going anywhere. Well, that didn't be that tall and that fast.
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Ty Schmidt
Exactly. And that would be the biggest thing in terms of like, how long can he do this is. You know, the only times he's really had any, like, injury issues. Yeah, it looked like to be some sort of, you know, attendant that the Dodgers had that, you know, sometimes you get in the wrong spot there and you got to scramble.
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Pat McAfee
So that is that person delivering beers there on the field.
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Ty Schmidt
A concession guy.
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Pat McAfee
Definitely. We go back to that.
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Ty Schmidt
Definitely shouldn't be out there. I just assumed it was like, go, go back. I don't know who the hell that is.
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Pat McAfee
Got a chair down there.
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Tone
So.
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Bruce Arians
Yeah, the chair.
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Tone
The ball boy jumped over into the stands.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
I wonder if that's just like a security attendant to make sure people aren't like, getting on the field and everything.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I mean, he should have known. Show.
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Ty Schmidt
He's off the bat, though.
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Pat McAfee
There's A chance that thing's coming right out.
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Ty Schmidt
He's probably thinking he's going yard. I'm good. Hell of a job. Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Not grabbing that chair too full sprint and staying away from the ball. Pretty impressive. If that hits him. Him in this game that goes 18 innings or whatever, there'd be so many. Oh, they got guys out there on. Because imagine it hits him, goes different. He gets a triple or something. Or like something like maybe guy falls on ball. Oh my God. Passes out, gets tired, falls on top of ball. I mean that could have been obviously chaotic. Shout out to that guy. Getting it figured out. But congrats to the Dodgers. So this is going to feed the. They spend more money. Everybody. That's why they're better than everybody narrative.
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Ty Schmidt
I mean, I suppose. But like it's when. When you're kind of getting single handedly beat by one guy. Like sh. Is just otherworldly. He's a. He's amazing and like, you know, ye. Yeah, they paid a shitload of money for him. But like there are other teams that definitely could have got him. We. We talked about it a little bit earlier. We'll. We'll see if they win the World Series handedly. And again, the amount of momentum that swings to them after a game like that, it's tough to imagine that the Blue Jays are just going to have enough left to get back. But like if they get one of like a Paul Skeens or a Terry School who People are saying if the Dodgers win the World Series and then sign one of the best players in baseball instantly, like that will be when people are like, all right, we can't do this.
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Pat McAfee
I heard Detroit offered Scubal pennies on the dollar. Yeah, Bucks or something Foxy. I need a confirmed source to tell me this. I don't believe it. I will not believe it until I know it's coming out of jet passing's mouth because that's absolutely absurd. And I'll tell you what. Senior Pizza Pizza. Little Caesar's owner Ilitch would have paid him right away. So I don't like this. His son better get going here. Okay. I like that you're calling out ownership and holding people accountable even though you don't know if it's true or not. And that's our show's difference.
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Ty Schmidt
That's right. You gotta do it.
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Pat McAfee
That is our show's. Exactly. That is our show's difference in its entirety. But. But you talk about like Skins going over there or something like that. Just buying the best team, which I would like to Let people know. That is why I was a fan of the Yankees as a guy grew up in Pittsburgh. It's like they're just buying the best team up there. Is everybody allowed to do that? Yeah. Well, I want. So I want to go for the team. I would like my happiness in this particular sport to reside upon the people that are trying to spend more money than everybody else to win baseball. People tell me I'm a bullshit fan. I agree. Never played. This is just me watching playoffs.
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Ty Schmidt
The deferment thing is what. What really bothers people.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. 15 years. Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
SH's salary this year is 1.2 million because they're giving him $400 million in.
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Pat McAfee
Salary cap gymnastics is coming over to MLB. You were about to say something.
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Tone
I was gonna say just in terms of spending money. The Dodgers are in second with 321 million this year for the payroll. The Blue jays are in fifth with 239 million for their payroll this year. So both teams spend and they made it.
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Pat McAfee
Who's number one?
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Tone
The New York Mets.
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Pat McAfee
They didn't make the playoffs.
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Ty Schmidt
They didn't.
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Pat McAfee
So that would be the argument the Dodgers would say, Correct.
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Ravi
Correct.
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Pat McAfee
And this is just like the Philadelphia Eagles saying, if Tush push so easy, why don't everybody do it? That is what the Dodgers will say about the New York Mets. And we'll talk about the Tush push in a matter of moments. You know, the dimes dive was really something that kind of captivated the entire NFL. This guy, you know, he was in New York, didn't pan out. Everybody threw a lot of shots. He goes to Minnesota. He's a free agent. Minnesota wants to keep him there. The Colts obviously need a quarterback. He'll come into a quarterback competition. How's everybody feel about it? Oh, no, we don't want it. He's going to win the quarterback competition pretty handily. How does everybody feel about it? We still. Oh, no. He need a full change. Then he goes in what? Best team in football. Ladies and gentlemen, the quarterback of the Indianapolis Colts, Danny Dimes. What's up, boys?
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Ravi
How we doing?
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Pat McAfee
Hey, congrats on another win. Okay, you didn't do shit, but congrats on another win. Yeah.
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Daniel Jones
Appreciate it, appreciate it, appreciate it.
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Pat McAfee
I know it's middle of season, we got a lot of football left. I know that's what you're going to say, but at this moment, with where you're sitting and how you guys have performed, could you have imagined this whenever you got here in the off season? The team being this good I think when I sat down with you for dinner with Mr. Berg, you said, hey, we got a lot of good guys. You like the roster immediately? Did you see this potentially being the case? And why has it worked out so good, you think?
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Daniel Jones
At this point, I mean, it's tough to say, you know, that we were, you know, exactly how it's going to work out. I think people say, you know, we think we're good, but no one, you never really know until you get out there and start playing. But, you know, I did. I mean, I honestly did in the spring. You look around, you're like, wow, he's really good and he's really good and the offensive line is really good and coaches are good. You're like, you know, we should be, we should be pretty good. And, you know, we've played well and things have gone well, but you never really know, I guess, until you get on the field.
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Pat McAfee
I appreciate you having my jersey in your bedroom there. It's very cool of you. It's very, very nice of you putting me up there next to the boss man. It's an honor. We're very thankful you're an Indianapolis Colt. We're also very thankful that Jonathan Taylor. Taylor is an Indianapolis cold. Can you tell me about him and the offensive line and what this offense is doing right now? Because obviously we've seen Jonathan Taylor have massive success in the past, but right now he's ready to break history, it seems like. What's happening in that area of your offense and why do you think it's all taking place?
- [23:00]
Daniel Jones
Yeah, I mean, I think, I think the guys up front, for one, you know, are doing an incredible job in the run game in the past game too, but in the, in the run game, opening up holes and then I don't, I mean, he hits it, he, he goes and, and the three or four yard runs are, are seven or eight yard runs. And then, you know, he's got the, he's got the, the, the home run in him too. That 80 yarder the other day was incredible. I don't know how he stayed inbounds on the sideline, hit it and, and rolled. But yeah, I mean, he, he's playing un. Unbelievable right now. I know everybody, you know, if you watch the game, it's, uh, it's pretty hard to miss. He, he's, uh, he's playing unbelievable right now.
- [23:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you know, being there in person, it's a lot more fun than it has been in the past. I've told you that a couple different times. Like, man, I am thankful to be a season ticket holder this year. It has been a blast in the stadium. One of my favorite things is, you know, what they decided to do during the breaks up on the Jumbotron celebrity lookalike happened this past weekend. And I'll tell you what, I thought you handled the moment greatly. Indiana Jones, any place does this noise, please. Okay, you saw it. Okay. I saw you fighting back a little blush as I was watching in real life. And then it seemed like you looked at yourself. Your thoughts up, Stay focused, stay locked. This is very. It's like second quarter, I think this is still very much in the middle of the game. How was this moment? Did you see yourself and what was your immediate reaction? Like, oh, look, big busy.
- [24:34]
Foxy
Is that.
- [24:34]
Pat McAfee
Is that pretty much?
- [24:37]
Daniel Jones
Yeah, I mean, I, I saw it. I tried to play it off like I didn't see it, but I. I saw it. And. And, you know, that's always the moment. Like, you know, the camera's on you, everybody's looking at you. Act like you're. Act like you're doing something you. You'd be doing if you didn't know.
- [24:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm working out. I'm working out.
- [24:52]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [24:53]
Pat McAfee
Quarterback, warm up my arm. Yeah. What else? That's. How has it been, though, dude? You're a hero here. You are a hero here. I texted you that, that the. Maybe two weeks ago. Like, hey, Daniel Jones could be governor of Indiana right now, could be mayor of the city, could literally be anything. How is it being like, you know, beloved by your fan, like, this place loves you. Can you feel that? How has it been experiencing that? And do you ever talk about it with the team, about how much the city has rallied and the state has rallied around the squad?
- [25:23]
Daniel Jones
You can. Yeah, I mean, you can definitely sense it, I think just how, you know, how energetic the city is for it and the support we have. Have here has been. It's been a lot of fun. I, you know, I've really enjoyed being here and, and being, you know, with this team. But, yeah, like you said, the city, I think the people here are awesome. You know, we've talked about. It's a sports town and people here love, love the Colts, love the Pacers, love the fever, love, love sports. So it's been fun to. Fun to feel that for sure.
- [25:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, we're lucky you're here, brother. We're enjoying the hell out of the run, honestly. And that game against the Titans, I don't know if you know this. Colts favored by 14 and a half or whatever. Colts fans scared to death. It's like, oh, no, here we go. Because we. We have, like, you know, PTSD of times where, like, okay, the team isn't, like, all the way ready to go. Very good team, but not, like, completely locked in. It's been awesome to watch you guys continue to grow through this entire journey. BA Has a question for you, Danny.
- [26:18]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, Dan. I saw you up, up close and personal. Your first win down in Tampa, and now what? Flip.
- [26:25]
Pat McAfee
What. What switch?
- [26:26]
Bruce Arians
Flip the switch for you. Is it coaching system, offensive line? Because you are playing the best football I've ever seen you play.
- [26:32]
Daniel Jones
Appreciate it. Appreciate it. I mean, I think it. I think it's all those things. I think, you know, football, you know, people want to make it about one guy or one thing or one play, but I think the reality is it's. It's everything kind of working together and everybody. Everybody doing what they're supposed to. It's a boring, you know, kind of. Of cliche take, but I. I honestly think that's. That's how it works. And offensive lines played incredible. I think the. The coach, the scheme. I think the game planning and. And the scheme we have week in and week out, you know, is. Is really, really good. I mean, you know, guys are. Guys are open, receivers getting open, and then Jonathan Taylor's doing an incredible job. So I. I mean, I think just everything's kind of working together, and. And we know we still got stuff to clean up, but. But I think that's when, you know, that's when. That's when guys are at their best, is when everyone's kind of kind of doing their job.
- [27:24]
Pat McAfee
Your wide receivers are special, too. It's like, you know, they're talking about with the packers, and I think they were talking about with the Bills. It's like, well, who's the number one? There needs to be a number one. It's like, we got dudes all over the place. Like, you got dudes all over, and none of them seemingly diva prima donna asking, expecting, just everybody goes for it. Like, this catch is one of the nastiest catches of all time.
- [27:43]
Daniel Jones
I mean, that's incredible.
- [27:44]
Ravi
Catch, pass interference, for sure.
- [27:46]
Ty Schmidt
Incredible.
- [27:46]
Pat McAfee
Did you know he caught it? You thought it was just PI, or did you know he caught it immediately?
- [27:50]
Daniel Jones
I didn't know he caught it, but I didn't see the ball. Come on. Like, usually you see the ball on the ground, and I was like, that ball didn't hit the ground. Did he catch that ball? Like, I don't think People realize how hard of a catch that was. Like, he. He's fighting off the defender. He pins it with one hand and the defender's arm in there. I mean, that's an incredible, incredible catch.
- [28:08]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Definitely pass interference. I mean, no questions asked. Everybody in there just thought, PI. Okay, we got first down at the 1. I think people legitimately, they were like, all right, that plays over. Is Pittman okay? That's good. And then there's like a delayed roar, and he just stands up with the ball. It's like, what? How the hell did you do that? And Pittman makes those plays all the time. Josh Downs and you getting on the same page, obviously. Alec Pierce, I've learned of him even more over the last couple weeks. Heard great things coming out of the Halloween party about Alec Pierce. So I am all bored. Alec Pierce being an absolute dog for the squad as well. And then you guys have a tight end. Okay. And I don't know where this Sasquatch much, you know, came from in this entirety, but what an animal. Go ahead, Ty.
- [28:47]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Danny. I think going back to, like, the draft process and then the draft especially, like, we were all shocked that Tyler Warren fell to where he did, just falling right into you guys laps. At what point did you know, like, oh, wow, like this. This guy's different. He might be special. And obviously, you know, Pat talked about how many weapons you have and everything's working, but how nice is it having a safety valve like this guy where you can just dump it down to him and he's liable to, you know, go 40 yards for a touchdown or pick up a third, you know, a long conversion on third down. Like, how impressed have you been with Tyler Warren?
- [29:19]
Daniel Jones
Yeah, I've been extremely impressed with him. I think when he got here in the spring, I mean, you could sense just like his savviness and. And feel for. For getting open and just kind of being an instinctive football player. But then, you know, getting on the field and playing with him and. And live action, you know, a lot of these plays that I think. I think he makes just look easy where he's. He knows where everybody is. He makes a tough catch. He, you know, makes a cut and gets an extra seven or eight yards. Like, I mean, he's just like, does. He does the, like, instinctive thing that you would hope someone does, really? Naturally, I feel like. And I don't know, he's just. He's. He's tough as. You know, tough as shit. He's a real, real good football player.
- [30:02]
Pat McAfee
Yes. His Head up, we think, is potentially the densest and the thickest that has ever been made, because we. We saw him against Notre Dame, hit his head off the ground right in front of us. He. He put a dent in the ground, and it was frozen. His head. Boom. And he just hopped right back. We thought he was dead.
- [30:19]
Ty Schmidt
I still get headaches from it.
- [30:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I actually. I just got a headache thinking about that. I mean, his head. We saw it in person, so it was like, oh, my God. And it was frozen, and he just hopped right back up, tossed the ball. It was like.
- [30:30]
Ty Schmidt
I think he got a carry on the next play.
- [30:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they get he lined up on. I think he did a dive. I think he did a touch push immediately afterwards. Just got punched in the head. Head. The guy's an absolute animal. You got a lot of them out there. Now, how can you manage an offense that has all these different weapons? How can you create space for everybody to be able to get the rock? How can you just dominate seemingly everybody? Well, there's a coach that we got that was brought in to be the head coach because he was an offensive guru. Seems like you and him have hit it off. Well, go ahead, tone.
- [30:58]
Tone
Yeah, Mr. Jones, we talk. You were talking about the game plan and the scheme earlier, trying to be respectful.
- [31:03]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [31:04]
Tone
And I wanted to ask about how your relationship with Shane Steichen has been since you came over to the Colts, and then how it is now and how more collaborative and how much more insight you have into the game plan each week. And I noticed you guys haven't had a buy yet, so if you wanted to sit out this upcoming weekend, just get, like, an early little rest, that's something you can think about doing as well.
- [31:22]
Pat McAfee
No, no, no.
- [31:23]
Daniel Jones
This is a big one. This is a big one this week.
- [31:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, don't listen to him. Dimes. Don't listen to him. That's Mr. Jones, by the way. Have a little respect, Mr. Jones. And me. Go ahead, Danny. Sorry. Track.
- [31:34]
Daniel Jones
The track.
- [31:36]
Bruce Arians
Thank you.
- [31:37]
Daniel Jones
Yeah, it's been fun working, working with Shane. You know, I think, you know, in the off season and kind of through training camp, you're not doing as much game planning. You're just kind of calling plays and, you know, trying to execute, putting in the offense for the most part. But once we've gotten into. Into the season and kind of as the weeks have gone, you know, I think just the. The process throughout the week has been. Been really good for me. And the time, you know, we spend meeting, watching tape, kind of hearing from him, you Know, he's real detailed on how he expects to call the game, how he wants me to. To kind of play the game, certain situations where we are on the field, down in distance, kind of what's been happening. And, you know, he's very, very detailed, has all that, you know, stuff planned out and kind of in his head and that stuff. He communicates with me, and I think just, you know, that helps me, you know, especially we get to, like, Friday and Saturday and you' watching, you know, the last little bit of tape and you're reminding the receivers certain little things here and there. I think that communication has been. Has been really helpful for me.
- [32:42]
Pat McAfee
Tell me about what he's saying to you or calling to you through the headset for every play. Because we hear him miked up and is he saying to you the same thing? He's saying, Mike, oh, look at this. It's going to be a touchdown. Okay, we're going to run. Okay, look, we seen him miked up every play. I don't know if you know how confident he is in every single play you guys run. Every single one. Oh, look at this. Look at this. This is going to be a. Look at this. It's going to be a touch. What about score this thing? Watch this thing. Yep, yep. Touchdown. Yep. Is that what he's calling?
- [33:09]
Daniel Jones
Plays me that in the headset as much, but he will, like, when we're talking about something on the sideline, it'll be like, all right, I'm going to call this one. It'll probably go for 20, and then when we get the ball 20, we'll probably call this one. We'll probably score there. But if we don't score, like, we'll call this play and then. And then we'll definitely score. So it's all. It's all very, very, very positive. Every play is going to be 15, 20 yarder, and then the next one's going to be 15, 20 yarder.
- [33:31]
Pat McAfee
That's awesome. Is that how you think. Is that how you have thought about the game before? Like, has this been a nice change of pace almost with how he kind of talks about it to you, do you feel like you two kind of gel well when it comes to that perspective?
- [33:44]
Daniel Jones
Yeah, I mean, I. Honestly, I. I haven't. I probably haven't had that positive of a mindset myself, but it's helpful. I mean, when. When you have that much confidence and that much optimism, belief, I think that that helps me. It helps the whole team, I think, and everybody can sense that.
- [34:02]
Pat McAfee
All right.
- [34:02]
Bruce Arians
We're going to do this.
- [34:03]
Pat McAfee
Probably pick up 15, 20 here. It might score. Honestly, I don't even know if we need this next play. And then we'll do this. I love that. That's what I'm talking about. It was always there. It was always there. He always dressed so cool on the sideline. He always looked so cool on the sideline. Every time I talked to him, it seemed great, but then it just wasn't going as well. Gardner, minu. We always make the playoffs. Oh, we don't make the playoffs. It's like he's been through it too, a lot. So for him to be as positive as he is, I think he's a real testament of his mental resilience. And we're lucky to have you both and. Nope, not even going to say it. We want you to sign a 10 year contract here. I'm not going to do any public negotiating on behalf of the Big Three. Okay. The Big Three, certainly understand that. But we are very lucky to have you both in our city. You need to know that. Go ahead, con man.
- [34:46]
Foxy
Yeah. Some good negotiating for you. Dimes will be the thousands of kids dressing up as you on Halloween on Friday across Indiana. But what about the relationship with the old line? Have you been taking them to dinners? Has JT been helping him out a little bit? And what is Quentin Nelson like as a leader? Because it feels as though all of us have kind of seen a different Quinton Nelson that we, you know, have grown accustomed to. With the departure of Ryan Kelly and Will Fry, he seems to be taking more of a vocal role this year.
- [35:16]
Daniel Jones
Yeah, he's a. He's a stud for sure. I haven't, I haven't taken him to dinner yet. We do a little Monday Night Football. Last night we had the, the Halloween party, but we got.
- [35:26]
Pat McAfee
Oh, really? What was attendance? What was attendance? What was attendance percentage?
- [35:31]
Daniel Jones
Pretty strong. I. I don't know. I wasn't. I wasn't. I wasn't marking everybody. It's pretty strong though, I'd say. I'd say pretty much everybody was there.
- [35:37]
Pat McAfee
I like that. These are all good things. Yeah. You guys are drinking water at these things, obviously. A lot of water and maybe some, some Gatorades and. Okay, so we do little mix drinks and beers. Okay.
- [35:47]
Ty Schmidt
I like that.
- [35:48]
Pat McAfee
That's what I just heard there. We got waters and, and Gatorades. Got it. I like that. This is good. This is good for team BA this is good.
- [35:54]
Bruce Arians
Good. Blue Gatorade and vodka is perfect.
- [35:56]
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
- [35:57]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So I go back to you dime. Sorry about it. Talk about the old line.
- [36:00]
Daniel Jones
No, Quentin. Quentin's a stud. And, And. And, yeah, the leadership he has in that room and how. How they all kind of work together, you know, I think. I think that that goes a long way. I mean, Quentin, all those guys have an extremely high standard for. For themselves in the group. And Quentin will let you know. Quentin will let you know if it's not, you know, if it's not good enough or if someone's not, you know, doing. Doing the right thing, he's pretty quick to let someone know and hold everybody accountable and he, you know, holds himself accountable first. And I think that that goes a long way with. With the line. Goes a long way with the whole team. I think so. Yeah. It means a lot.
- [36:38]
Pat McAfee
You guys got a special group, man. It's been fun to watch you guys. Let's talk about the defense. Obviously, we have to, because Lou, Anna, I mean, you didn't know what it was like before Lou got there. You didn't know what it was like before Cam Bottoms got there, who was seeming be loved by everybody. Moody should be back here soon after the pregame. Hey, let's fucking watch what we're doing pregame, okay? I don't know, you guys. We need to get better at that going forward, but can you tell me about the defensive side of the ball and the vibes and energy over there? Because obviously, if we want to go where we want to go, defense is going to have to win games and feels like we have the guys to do it. Do you agree with that for sure?
- [37:13]
Daniel Jones
Yeah. Yeah. I think they've been playing. Playing at a really high level. You know, Lou does a. Does a great job. He's a smart guy, Smart coach. The schem that they run and week in and week out, the game plan stuff they have is. Is. Is good. We see it a little bit in practice. We do a period against the defense Thursdays, and there's always some funky stuff in there. So, yeah, he does a. Does a really good job. Those guys are playing well. Pass rush. The guys in the back end are all. All playing well. And I think, yeah, we feed off that energy on offense. Seeing those guys make stops, make big plays, sacks, turnovers, that's been huge for us.
- [37:50]
Pat McAfee
Why don't you let Rigoberto punt full field a couple times? Let the guy build his average. Every time he goes out there, he hits a perfect ball. Rigo's batting a TH000 right now. He actually is, Danny.
- [38:00]
Daniel Jones
Is he?
- [38:00]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [38:01]
Daniel Jones
Is that a Stat. That's an official stat.
- [38:03]
Pat McAfee
I'll give it out because I'm actually watching him because I, I, I've been on a couple offenses that were very successful. You know, so you're getting a fifth of the amount of punts of everybody else. But what that means is everyone is like, well, you, you don't really have to do much. It's like, of course. Of course I don't. But every punt means if I shank one, our average is screwed for, what, two months with the way this offense is basically going? So, like, every punt matters for Rego. And he hits. He's been batting a thousand, I think. Yeah, he has been. It's amazing. I love Rigoberto. Love Badgley, too. Love him stepping in. Obviously didn't enjoy the, the injury that took place to our guy Spencer. He'll be back stronger than ever. And we see your hat, you know, and it feels. Feels like it's been a big part of the story. Coach Ba Been with Colts multiple times. Has a question for you.
- [38:48]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, I, I think Jim Ursay spirit has got to have a big part of that locker room. And I see Shane does it.
- [38:54]
Pat McAfee
You do it.
- [38:55]
Bruce Arians
The picture behind you. Let him carry you guys all the way, because he will.
- [39:00]
Pat McAfee
Hell, yeah.
- [39:01]
Daniel Jones
Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Absolutely. I think, you know, I didn't know Mr. Hersay, but just from, from everyone around here and, and the relationships he had with a lot of these, These. A lot of the players, and obviously all the, all the staff. I think you get a sense for how strong his. His, you know, his spirit and memory still is here. So. Yeah, no doubt.
- [39:23]
Pat McAfee
We love the guitar. Grove brings the guitar in, gets the pick, you know, for the guitar. Pittman brought it in, obviously, this week, gets the tip. Okay. Then gets the touchdown. It's like, okay, let's get our. Let's get this. Let's keep this guitar around. Let's maybe five people walking with this guitar. We appreciate you, man. Enjoy the rest of the season. Thank you for taking time out of your life here.
- [39:46]
Daniel Jones
Awesome. Appreciate y' all having me.
- [39:47]
Bruce Arians
Yeah. Stay healthy, brother.
- [39:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What's. What's today look like?
- [39:49]
Daniel Jones
Thank you.
- [39:50]
Pat McAfee
What's today look like? What's today look like? We all watch film. Remember? We haven't done yet, Right?
- [39:54]
Daniel Jones
We haven't done anything we haven't done. Yeah. We're about to get back in the film room. We gotta see what these Steelers look like.
- [39:59]
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you.
- [39:59]
Ty Schmidt
You like what you see, Daniel?
- [40:04]
Foxy
Danny.
- [40:07]
Pat McAfee
Don'T say that to him.
- [40:08]
Ty Schmidt
No, I know I know, but he might.
- [40:10]
Tone
Good news is Tomlin just had his press conference. Said they're not changing the damn thing.
- [40:14]
Pat McAfee
We knew that, though. We knew that.
- [40:16]
Tone
Yes, we did.
- [40:16]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, we knew that.
- [40:17]
Pat McAfee
That. That's. Hey, that's Coach Tomlin, right? Steelers football, remember? He has to get his guys back, too.
- [40:21]
Tone
What do you mean?
- [40:22]
Pat McAfee
His defense coordinator. Yeah, he's got to get his guys back. Like, he has to publicly. That's something you have to do legitimately.
- [40:28]
Tone
He's having cities back.
- [40:29]
Pat McAfee
Okay, well, that's in his mind when he sits down, I would assume. I've noticed in there, he knows, boy, this guy sucks right now at his job. But publicly, he's got to go work with this guy. He can't just bury him publicly. Have to.
- [40:42]
Foxy
Well, how much work is he doing then? Because if he's doing a lot of work, then are we aiming our sights at the wrong guy?
- [40:48]
Bruce Arians
I.
- [40:48]
Foxy
That's where I get conf.
- [40:49]
Pat McAfee
Oh, you think there's a fall guy here? Austin, D.C. knocking the proper attack on Coach Tomlin. You know it in there. Coach, at press conference, whenever a coordinator is potentially on the hot seat with the face.
- [41:01]
Bruce Arians
How.
- [41:01]
Pat McAfee
How do you address that? Do you. Do you go up there knowing, like, hey, if I say anything here, it's potentially going to spark a fire? Is that a thought that you have going in?
- [41:08]
Bruce Arians
No, I think you just tell the truth. And I hired the guy. He's my guy. It's my job to fix him. All right? It's not his fault. It's my fault.
- [41:15]
Pat McAfee
Got it?
- [41:16]
Bruce Arians
So as a head coach, you reflect it all back to yourself. And this player didn't have a great game. My job. Coach him better. This coach didn't have a good game. My job to coach him better.
- [41:26]
Pat McAfee
Now, on that note, sometimes when you say that, it does sound like you're pandering a bit, you know, because, like, a player will make a full fail, and then the coach be like, that's on me. I didn't coach him upright. It's like, hey, hero. Don't need you saying that. Hey, Tom McMahon. Tom McMahon tried to go to bat for me one time on something. He was like, that's on me. I didn't have him prepared for that. I'm like, hey, Tom, shut up. Okay? You know who that was on? I shanked that out of bounds. That was on me. He goes, yeah, but they need to know that I could have made you better or whatever. I'm like, no, you've did every. This 100% on me. I don't like you're lying to these people or whatever, but it's like taking up for your people is a big part of leading. Like, that is. That is a huge part of leading. And I think Coach Tomlin is, like, what, one of the most loyal people. Oh, yeah.
- [42:04]
Foxy
For sure.
- [42:04]
Pat McAfee
In the history of the NFL. So, like, not that that's a great thing, too. Remember, he kept Canada around for a long time whenever everybody was looking for it, but he did move on from that. Canada. First time in the middle of the season the Pittsburgh Steelers have ever fired a coordinator or whatever in the history of the Steelers. I think there was a time where a coach or something, the owner. Oh, yeah, the owner was coach.
- [42:24]
Foxy
He fired himself. And that was before they sold 40s.
- [42:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So it was a long time. So he has had to make moves before, but I think he does have to kind of represent for his guys out there publicly.
- [42:33]
Ty Schmidt
Or he could take the Brian Kelly approach and, you know, basically just make a bunch of excuses, throw it on everyone else's plate. These guys on the sidelines say, hey, you just lost your fucking job. Do that. I mean, now, did that work out for him? Not. Not especially, but he.
- [42:49]
Bruce Arians
With the athletic director.
- [42:50]
Ty Schmidt
Well. And he's. And he's walking away with a check for $54 million. So is it that.
- [42:54]
Pat McAfee
That bad?
- [42:55]
Ty Schmidt
Is it that bad?
- [42:56]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if Coach Trauma's got the same deal as Brian.
- [42:58]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he might not.
- [42:59]
Pat McAfee
I don't know how. How all those deals were, but, boy, that Brian Kelly situation is fascinating. Certainly.
- [43:05]
Ty Schmidt
It's just getting worse and worse.
- [43:07]
Pat McAfee
What, down there?
- [43:08]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. I mean, you know, you take it with a grain of salt, but now just, like, all the stories come out like, yeah, like, what you see is true. This guy is a massive piece of.
- [43:16]
Pat McAfee
Is what people are saying.
- [43:17]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
- [43:17]
Pat McAfee
That's what people are saying. And obviously, everybody's gonna have those, or he is due 54 million over the next six years. Let's talk about these college coaches getting fired. Let's talk about coaches getting fired in general. Coaches know it's coming. Like, Brian Kelly knew that was coming. James Franklin. Do you think he knew that was coming without loud? It seemed like James Franklin did not know that it was. It was coming, even though it was very, very loud on the outside because of how much success in winning and everything that that program has done under him and with how long he was there. Brian Kelly, obviously, you lose to Texas A and M in the fashion that you lose to Texas A and M. Texas A and M might Win the national championship. Texas A and M is a very, very, very, very good football team. They blow out, Alice.
- [43:54]
Foxy
Shoot.
- [43:54]
Pat McAfee
Do you think Brian Kelly knows that It's a possibility. You think these guys know it's a possibility?
- [43:58]
Bruce Arians
I don't think those guys do. I think they think I'm invincible and I'll write this ship. I know how to do this. And there's so much money involved in college football now. Like the boat, the boosters. No, you're not, because you're not running this anymore.
- [44:11]
Pat McAfee
Do you think it's an unflappable confidence that coaches have to have?
- [44:14]
Bruce Arians
You have to. Yeah, you gotta do. You have to walk on in the office knowing I'm the best there is.
- [44:21]
Pat McAfee
That'd be crazy if Brian Kelly just walked in there that next day. How we doing? Pretty good. Tough game. We'll get it back. We'll get it back. Hey, definitely Texas. A good football team. Hey, why don't you come in here real quick?
- [44:33]
Bruce Arians
Sure.
- [44:33]
Pat McAfee
What are we doing? We having a little sit down? You're fired. How much you guys owe me? Like 54 million. Yeah, we're.
- [44:41]
Foxy
Pay check, please.
- [44:42]
Pat McAfee
Holy. All right. Sounds good. He's walked out. Got his little wagon. You see the car?
- [44:47]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [44:47]
Pat McAfee
I love that they had people camped out outside. Actually, I hate that they had people camped out outside the parking lot. I'd like to let that be known. There are some people that camp out. Some of the places that I end up at, it scares the out of me, especially in the current environment that we are in. Not great. But I guess down there at lsu, this is what you kind of expect when you sign up. Them having him. He was in the building six minutes. This guy walked out of there. $51 million lose. Texan. I'm gone the next day. I do wonder if he woke up in the morning thinking it was possible. And it's like Napier. I think he probably had to.
- [45:19]
Tone
He did. He did for sure.
- [45:20]
Ty Schmidt
He won two. I don't think James win after a win.
- [45:24]
Pat McAfee
And then it was almost like it was being talked about. And I don't want to say anything out of line because Napier has been good to us and to our show and to game day. Seemingly in a very difficult spot down there. Not saying Florida's a tough spot, but he him, for whatever reason, maybe didn't hit on the right guys and they started losing their schedule. Every single year was like, you're playing every good gauntlet that has ever played. But it felt like a lot of people around college football on, like, Tuesday, Wednesday, before they played that game were like, yeah, he's getting fired on Sunday. It's like, what if they beat Mississippi? No.
- [45:54]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it's getting fired.
- [45:55]
Pat McAfee
It's all happening on Sunday. It's like, well, what is that? Is that rounding up all the boosters to pay the payout? You think that's what it is? They had to get everybody on board. Like, no matter what happens, he's getting fired. So that decision had to be made, like, two weeks beforehand. And then it's like, okay, now they're leading up to one particular day for the college football is crazy. I know you're advising right now. It is a wild.
- [46:14]
Tone
Something tells me that decision was probably made after the USF loss, and then they were probably just getting stuff in order.
- [46:18]
Pat McAfee
Had to get everything in order.
- [46:20]
Tone
I think every name on there probably should have known that it was coming. Except for those. Those top two. I don't think they. They thought it was coming when it was coming.
- [46:26]
Pat McAfee
I don't. Dundee. You don't think. Middle of season. There's no way he thought it was coming.
- [46:30]
Tone
Years.
- [46:31]
Foxy
Norvell seemed blindsided.
- [46:32]
Pat McAfee
Jay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he did. Jay Norvell did not know that was coming. Honestly, up there at Colorado State. Been there a long time.
- [46:40]
Bruce Arians
Oh, yeah.
- [46:41]
Pat McAfee
Him and Coach prime obviously had their words, but that was good for the rivalry. You kind of. Trent Doer. I know he didn't think he was going to be.
- [46:48]
Foxy
He's a pioneer.
- [46:48]
Pat McAfee
That was his decision.
- [46:49]
Foxy
He's invented this.
- [46:50]
Pat McAfee
It was.
- [46:50]
Ty Schmidt
It was.
- [46:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that was going to be his decision. And Trent Bray. I mean, that guy can coach, and then you go to Brent Pryor. Virginia Tech didn't really give him a chance.
- [46:58]
Foxy
No, they didn't.
- [47:00]
Bruce Arians
Old dominion.
- [47:01]
Tone
Yeah.
- [47:02]
Bruce Arians
24. Nothing and a half or 30, whatever that was over. I love Brent. Hell of a guy. Hell of a football coach.
- [47:08]
Pat McAfee
But it just didn't work out. Yeah, you got to win. This is a. We need wins. Which goes back to the nil era, where every team can get good, get good in the off season, which leads your boosters that think you're going to be good. And then whenever it's not good, it's like, well, what did I give my money to? Oh, well, I'm not giving you money. Yeah, right. I'm not doing that again. Well, we need your money. Well, I'm not. I'm not doing that. Same guy. Is that who I'm giving? Yeah, he's been. He's a good coach. I just gave $5 million and went down the Drain. I might as well just light that on fire. Maybe piss on it at my house. Why would I give it back to you guys? Well, because we need it for the good of the thing. Well, I'm not giving that guy we'll fire. All right, I'll double if you do that. Then all of a sudden, guy's fired and now it's like, well, who's next? Is there enough coaches to be hired next? Are you going to hate the next guy? And then how long? Or next girl? How long we. How long is that going to happen? I don't. I honestly don't know. This is kind of the conversation on game day where Kirk's like, I don't think these people that give $10 million should have any say anything. How he started. And it's like, Kirk, I agree with what you're saying, but that is just not reality.
- [48:07]
Ty Schmidt
The way it works.
- [48:07]
Pat McAfee
How are you going to get $10 million from these people and then just expect them not to say anything? Or how do you expect them to not threaten to not give more money? Like, there's a lot of power in there whenever you're taking 10 million $, 5 million checks from people. Yeah, but it's not right. It's like, we all agree with you, Herbie, but this is kind of the reality of the business. And it is crazy to think, like we talk about the NFL firing offense coordinators or coaches with these young quarterbacks. It's like, think about some of these colleges that are going to be in. Oh yeah, they're going to be chasing a dragon probably for a long, long time. And then there's going to be other schools that find their fit, like Virginia Tech, because bas obviously looking for it. They're going to find their fit and they're going to be able to build a massive sustainable program.
- [48:47]
Foxy
Program.
- [48:47]
Pat McAfee
And their donors aren't going to care. They're going to keep doing it. It's like you're going to see if you can evaluate talent or not. You're going to see, I think in college over the next 10 years what it's going to be.
- [48:55]
Foxy
That's why like Texas is set up is kind of awesome. You know, like they have the committee at the top that, you know, the, the coach goes to and then it's more so like, hey, the boosters can at the committee and then maybe the committee can, you know, transfer that message to the coach kind of properly.
- [49:11]
Pat McAfee
I hope so. Let's go to some baseball last night, 18 inning World Series battle where Sh Otani, the biggest star in the sport was on base nine times in one game. And now tonight, he'll be the starting pitcher in a World Series game. We have insane stuff happening. And joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's been covering baseball and ESPN for 35 years, friend of the program. He's on a pregame show which we need to be able to see better and easier. Ladies and gentlemen, Carl. Ravi. Get ready, Ravi. What up, baby?
- [49:44]
Foxy
Not me, baby.
- [49:44]
Pat McAfee
Not me.
- [49:45]
Ravi
I don't know. It was 4am when we rolled into the rack. 145 out here in the West Coast. That's not supposed to happen. I'll tell you one thing, you guys, you guys saw some of it. I'm sure it was amazing for 12 innings and then it kind of slowed down and then it ended with another Freddie Freeman bag. We're, we're watching some amazing, amazing things in Major League Baseball the last couple of years. We knew going into this thing the Dodgers were the most talented team that money has ever bought. But boy, the Blue Jays split the first two games and forced them into 18 innings last night. We got ourselves a really good World Series is what we got, Pat.
- [50:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I've been paying attention. I've actually enjoyed the hell out of it. I know baseball people might not love the way the Dodgers have gone about doing what they've done to build this roster. Me as kind of like floating sports fan, love whenever you accrue a bunch of stars and they all show, show up. Like I, I love whenever the stars and studs do their jobs because I like whenever teams try to go for it and it works, right? On the flip side, this Blue Jay story is incredible. Who was the buddy that got paid.
- [50:47]
Ty Schmidt
15, 000 Alejandro Kirk, their catcher.
- [50:49]
Pat McAfee
This guy not supposed to be in baseball games. I know that. I'm watching him on tv. I'm like, who's this guy's my favorite baseball player. Then I just learned he got paid 15 grand out of a Mexican league basically to come into the MLB 5 foot 8 hitting dunk in the World Series. This is dream come true. Now let's continue that conversation. Dream come true for MLB for the World Series tonight, Shohei starting for the Dodgers. Obviously this man is a spectacle. Obviously this man is already an icon. Conor broached the question, hey, is this the greatest athlete of all time, let alone just greatest baseball player of all time? What should we expect from him tonight? Obviously with not much rest after getting on base nine times last night. And what is the expectation for the level of play this evening as a whole. Right. I don't think I really know your sport well enough for two games to be played in one night and then a biggest game of the year the next night.
- [51:38]
Ravi
Yeah, it's probably a little bit easier to do it since it's baseball instead of, you know, your sport, football or basketball. There's not a lot of physicality going on in this thing. Look, with Ohtani, I expect greatness. I think he's going to come out and he's going to be great because that's what he does. Ohtani is in that class now, Pat, in with which you would talk about Tiger woods, you talk about Michael Jordan, you talk about Tom Brady, you. You expect him to do things because he expect himself to do things. I mean, I got a list here of Ohtani accomplishments that reads like something that you couldn't make up. I mean, it's, it's. Shohei Ohtani has reached base safely. Ten straight plate appearances. Ten straight. So the final plate appearance of game two. And of course, nine times, similar to Jordan, similar to the Tiger woods effect on golf courses. Nobody wants to see a dude walked intentionally four times. Do we need an Ohtani rule? Should we limit the amount of time somebody is able to be intentionally walked in a game? Maybe it's two, maybe it's three. I mean, it's something to consider in a world in which baseball has made a lot of good rule changes to make the game better. Fans are what this is supposed to be about. I'm telling you, sitting right there in about row four, people were screaming because he's being walked. I mean, they want to see the confrontation, but look at the numbers.
- [53:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they want to see the show. Literally.
- [53:04]
Ravi
Hey, they want to see it.
- [53:05]
Pat McAfee
Hey, that is what we're here for.
- [53:06]
Bruce Arians
Hey, show.
- [53:07]
Pat McAfee
Hey, we're here for the show. Hey, that's what we got going on. How would they be able to make that rule? Like, I know beer league softball, you're allowed like two home runs and then it's an out. Every time you do that, they'd be able to just act like they were pitching and it just not be an intentional walk. Well, you can't.
- [53:22]
Ty Schmidt
You just.
- [53:23]
Ravi
Yeah, I mean, that's what happened the fifth time that they. Instead of intentionally walk, they pitcher non intentionally walked him. I mean that. But instead of putting up four fingers, at least give the mirage that we're trying to pitch to the guy. The same way they put the number of times you can throw over to first base. You know, they limited that they, they have a pitch clock. Rob Manfred could sit there with the pen and a paper and say, intentional walk limited to three times per player, per game.
- [53:47]
Pat McAfee
We'd like that. Now, Rob. We know Rob obviously got a chance to chat with him at the All Star Game. I think what baseball is doing in training, trying to evolve and catch up with the times and captivate an audience, is wonderful. I think the fact that a sport in a league as old as this is willing to adapt is a beautiful thing. And also their stars showing up for them is huge. Ty has a question for you, Ravi.
- [54:08]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Ravi. It's kind of along the lines of that they're not going to change that rule tonight. And I'm kind of thinking like, the, the Blue Jays have to intentionally walk him every single time. I understand it's going to piss people off. That's not what anyone wants to see. But you just can't pitch to this guy. And I understand he's batting leadoff, so that kind of puts you in a precarious situation when you're putting a guy on right away. But just coming off last night's game, is there any way the Blue Jays can win this game tonight? Like, I mean, I, I listen, I've watched the Blue Jays a lot this year, being a Yankees fan, but after how demoralizing that was, like, what. How do you see this game going tonight? I guess. I guess.
- [54:46]
Ravi
Yeah.
- [54:46]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [54:47]
Ravi
The bounce back question is a real one, Ty, and it's a good question. And Shane Bieber is going to be on the mound. Shane Bieber's got all sorts of, you know, great history of Cy Young, and he comes over here late in a deal with the Guardians. The question's going to be. And Bieber acknowledges it. I mean, I sat talking with Shane Bieber while we did the LCS on the radio. He's coming off Tommy John surgery. It's usually two years until you feel 100% he doesn't know how he's going to feel. He literally says, every time I go out there, my arm is a mystery. So much of this is going to be in what he can do. The bigger issue when you talk about the game and the series globally is by the end of that game last night, with George Springer being out, with Kirk not being in the lineup anymore, with Barger being out, it was. It felt more of a question of when do the Dodgers score? Because the Blue Jays days don't have anybody in this lineup short of that guy on the screen and Vlad Guerrero, they can really hit a ball over the wall, Dalton Varsho maybe, but their lineup at the end of that game with some of the pinch running decisions that were made and the Springer injury, I don't see how George Springer plays tonight. Now the same thing could be said about George Springer coming back from getting dinged on a knee with the baseball, then hitting that immense home run. Maybe the second biggest home run in Blue Jay is. That's really going to be the challenge for Toronto. How the hell are they going to score? It doesn't matter if it's Ohtani on the mound or anybody else. How are they going to score runs with their lineup that's banged up?
- [56:16]
Pat McAfee
Ravi, we appreciate you joining us. When can we watch you tonight?
- [56:20]
Ravi
You got to be at 5 to 6 Eastern Time. We'll be leading into and then last night Pat, I know you were up. We did a post game show from about 1:45 to 2:15 in the west coast. So join us then. I'll text you. I'll let you know if we're on at 4 again.
- [56:36]
Pat McAfee
Thank you Ravi. Ladies and gentlemen, Jamaicara Post game after an 18 inning game hell yeah. Ravi, hold it down bro. That's awesome. Yeah, I actually did a postgame show after an 18 inning World Series. How about you? Yeah, 115 he said damn. 145.
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- [58:06]
Bruce Arians
And.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so like everybody deals with losing right? To a rival and a last second field goal, whatever. It's fine. I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice cold Dr. Pepper. Mmm. Those 23 flavors are like so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of.
- [58:24]
Ty Schmidt
Your college football team taking a big.
- [58:26]
Pat McAfee
Fat L. College football. It's a pepper thing.
- [58:34]
Foxy
Football.
- [58:39]
Pat McAfee
Remix. That's Coach B.A. super bowl champion. The toxic tables here at Boston, Connor and at Ty Schmidt, one half of the Hammer Cowboys AP Tony's here. And joining us live from an attic in Ohio is a man who is the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers, a college football national champion, a Super bowl champion, and a man who once had 40 something tackles in a high school football game. Ladies and gentlemen, the legend, A.J. hawk.
- [59:05]
AJ Hawk
That number seems to grow, huh? I think you started at 32 or 33. It's already over 40.
- [59:09]
Pat McAfee
Well, you had multiple games over 30. I think you only had one game over 40 and you said there's a bunch of jops on there. My coach really patted the stats. Nonetheless, this cranium right here was all over the yard, in every yard that he was playing football in. On that note, the Chiefs is all the way back. Congrats to you getting it right. Forcing me to go the other way. Thought you were an underdog type guy. Turns out you're not. Worse slate in the history in the last 55 years for the NFL, 2080 will be the next time that this will take place. If we were to repeat the same time frame where there's only one game that is a one score game on an entire NFL slate, what did you learn from last night's ten and a half point spread where the Chiefs covered easily over the Washington commanders?
- [59:49]
AJ Hawk
AJ yeah, the Chiefs did cover easily. Eventually it got to that. But early on it was a bit of a, I don't know, what does Guppy call those soccer games that are terribly close? Yeah, it was definitely a defensive battle early. I would say some turnovers, obviously both sides, but yeah, the Chiefs know what to do. The Chiefs know how to win. That's what they're, they're programmed to do. It's what Patrick Mahomes is programmed to do. And they just find ways to win. And also credit to that Chiefs defense again, they, they played very well.
- [60:16]
Pat McAfee
I thought BA what do you see from the offensive side with the amount of weapons that Patrick Mahomes is having, they're saying this might be the best offense that they've ever had. Whenever they get this thing really rolling with the amount of, of weapons that they have.
- [60:26]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, they got Pachenko going in to run a game and offensive lines playing better. Rasheed Rice makes a huge difference and the speed is showing up, you know, since Tyreek has been gone, the speed is starting to show back up. I just would. Pat would get out of bounds some. He took some hits he don't need to take.
- [60:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, well, that was last year. Remember last year? And also earlier this year when they weren't playing that well, he started doing, yeah, I gotta be the guy guy, you know? And I think he views himself as tough guy. Grew up, obviously, in a clubhouse. Baseball. Baseball. Dad's a dog. I think he views himself as a dog. I don't think he sees himself as we all see him. Like, yo, brother, you're already on the Mount Rushmore football players, brother, you're already in a goat conversation. Brother, if you get hurt, they are screwed over there in Kansas City. I don't think he sees it like that right now. No.
- [61:08]
Bruce Arians
He's too tough for his own good, and a lot of these guys are getting that way. But he took one or two shots on the sideline. He could have just stepped out of bounds. And I think since he started the flexing, guys are taking bigger shots on him.
- [61:20]
Pat McAfee
Well, that was because he did the dosy Doe on a guy and hits a guy. And then everybody that has a defensive helmet on their head or ever has worn a defensive helmet on their headset, guy keep doing that. Go ahead and keep doing it. And the NFL doesn't want to happen either. These refs. Okay, let's get into it.
- [61:35]
Ty Schmidt
Here we go.
- [61:36]
Pat McAfee
Age. Age. Bruce Arians has been a coach 47 years in football, okay? I've obviously not witnessed all 47 years of him coaching football. I've only seen one year, and I. I think I saw enough to really have a. A pretty good grasp on how this whole thing. Thing goes. We were in spring, okay? OTAs, running some drills, seven on seven or whatever, had refs in, local refs that are like college refs, okay? Local refs that are college refs, they come in just getting some practice, okay? Just get some practice. But hey, if you're just going to get some practice, don't be ruining our practice. Is BA's mindset. Guy misses a touchdown, okay? Guy misses, clearly two feet in. He calls him out. Obviously the defense does a full celebration. I mean, it was clearly a touchdown. Like, me and Vinnie are standing right there, two feet clearly in. Bad call by the refs. Defense doesn't want to hear. Defense does. A fool to be, you know, because BA is coming in wearing all black on days that he kills him in the whole funeral. So BA listens to the defense and then just completely turns to this ref. Just beeline to ref. Lets him know how big of an embarrassment he is basically, and how much he, like, chooses. He undresses this ref in this ottoman, see anything, and he walks away. Okay? Then he walks away. And then he starts talking shit to the defense and talks shit about the ref while talking shit to the defense, to them, and walks away. I was like, yes. This is before I got to see him in action during games. Then during games, you know, you got that side judge or whatever on the sideline. Unbelievable working of this side judge. And I think he has a personal relationship with basically all of them. I am pretty sure he has personal relationship with all of them. But BA Much like the players, okay? I think players normally feel this way a lot more than coaches to at least enact on it. BA Understands these refs are very important to the game and when they are asked, they need to hear about it. I asked BA this morning, hey, anything you want to talk about? We need to talk about these refs. That's what he said. Okay? That was his big takeaway.
- [63:35]
Foxy
Okay?
- [63:35]
Pat McAfee
And I'll tell you what compelling case. Whenever you start seeing some things and obviously everybody's talking about the tush push. We'll save that for last. There are some clear and obvious ones on Sunday Night Football. In the biggest game between the Steelers and the packers that they didn't get right. Broderick Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers left tackle, actually goes in motion, basically for a play. Now, it's not as easy to see if you're not looking for it at the beginning, which a ref should be. They get sky cam on this. This thing is this guy's behind the guard before the ball's even snapped.
- [64:03]
Ty Schmidt
Okay?
- [64:03]
Pat McAfee
Don't know how you miss that.
- [64:04]
Bruce Arians
Honestly, that's what drives me crazy. The clear and obvious. They don't warn a tackle anymore. They'll call them. And now you see a tackle sitting back four yards. This guy's off the sides. And then the one where the defense.
- [64:15]
Pat McAfee
Jumps offside on the complete the next drive. So now the Green Bay Packers. Now the Green Bay packers have a chance. Mike is trying to scare him. Get Zach Frazier jump offsides. How you doing? What he actually gets is his D tackle to move Devonte Wyatt and then Rashawn Gary also, there's two guys offside. This on third down. Aaron, just being in game 20 years, okay? This is a free play almost to the point where they should have stopped it because they almost made contact. Like, if there's no contact in their offsides, they let the free play play happened. This guy was so close to Frazier, you thought they might even stop it because there's contact. Then Aaron Rodgers throws an incompletion. It's now fourth down. He goes bananas on these refs. But this is the biggest game of the weekend. This is Sunday night Football. This is early. These are some important parts of the game. Very clear and obvious. They're missing it. Are they dropping down a level right now? Are the refs getting worse right now at the clear and obvious BA I.
- [65:05]
Bruce Arians
Think it's totally true that that quality from week to week is getting worse.
- [65:13]
Pat McAfee
I don't like that because then you say BA it's just two. There's just one crew. That's just one crew down there. He's a Check Tampa Bay game. Check. Tampa. So this play, I think we need sound on, please. Spencer Rattler, quarterback for the New Orleans. Or I'm sorry, not. Is this Spencer Rather?
- [65:28]
Bruce Arians
This is.
- [65:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, this Spencer Rather, quarterback for the Saints. Sound, please, for sure. Thanks to Glenn and Chaz. Rattler on the slant first down. And then the ball came loose.
- [65:40]
AJ Hawk
Taken back by Winfield.
- [65:43]
Foxy
No whistles recovered by the defense.
- [65:47]
Pat McAfee
There was a whistle blow. Commentator just said no whistles. Pereira, I think is in the middle of saying, I didn't hear a whistle. The ball was clearly out. Obviously an awkward thing. So they take touchdown back off of the board. They still have the fumble recovery there. BA Says, oh, okay, yeah, just take a touchdown off the board because of a whistle that none. And it was on the opposite side of the field. Is that what you were told?
- [66:07]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, the opposite side official wasn't even his call. Makes a call, blows a whistle. Now, to me, that. That's suspension.
- [66:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's a suspension.
- [66:17]
Bruce Arians
You don't. You don't call any more games race this year.
- [66:19]
Pat McAfee
It's the NFL.
- [66:20]
Bruce Arians
It's not your call.
- [66:21]
Pat McAfee
It's the highest level.
- [66:22]
Bruce Arians
It's not your call. Let the person call it disposable. This inadvertent whistle thing drove me crazy for a long, long time. This is about the third one of these I've had.
- [66:30]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so. And he said I we've had as if he's still in the bucks. You'll see some of the awards he gives out he does have into that building still on that point. And then obvious the one the tush push. The tush was clear and obvious and also incredibly hyped. And whenever you think about this play yesterday, Dan Orlovsky and our conversation about it. 2 million views on X. The other one, like 1.8 million views on X. People obviously at the point of wanting to figure this out now, most people saying, get it out of the game. Philadelphia people still putting up the same fight that they had during the off season whenever they were trying to ban this. It's like, hey, it's a football play. If it's so easy, why doesn't everybody do it Then? We watch the offsides that happen. We watch the illegal motions. Now we're watching this happen where they say forward progress is stopped and they give take away a fumble recovery for the New York Football Giants against the Philadelphia Eagles. Clear and obvious to everybody but the refs.
- [67:17]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, to me it's like, okay, I'm all for the tush push. I mean, Jalen hurts is unbelievable. Only he can do it.
- [67:23]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [67:23]
Bruce Arians
But if you can't referee the play, the play's got to get out of the game. And obviously they can't referee this play anymore. Between all the false starts, the offsides, and this ridiculous play that the forward progress was stopped, they're all to going, going forward. He's reaching forward when they take the ball away. And it got reviewed. Now if you're going to review it, you review the whole play.
- [67:45]
Pat McAfee
Just get the right card.
- [67:46]
Bruce Arians
But they're saying that forward progress being stopped trumps everything.
- [67:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they've been using that for a long time.
- [67:53]
Bruce Arians
That's the scapegoat.
- [67:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it has been the trump card. Their trump card has always been the forward progress thing if they made a mistake. But we're at the point now where it's like, why not just get it right if you can get it right? We're already doing the New York drop in Expedition rules. Well, they can't overturn everything. They can't put a flag out. It's like, why not? You guys are letting them basically do that anyways. Why don't we just get the call right if we know it's clear and obvious in the way this was originally reported? Correct me if I'm wrong. I think one of the aggregator accounts put it out and said there was a mistimed whistle or something like that. It was like the whistle actually didn't blow until after Thibodeau had the ball. So there was no blow of this thing being dead. It was just a forward progress conversation. AJ AJ Bruce Brown, New York Giants fan, obviously. So he's going to feel a little bit certain way about this. He said if they were to stop forward progress every time they did push, push, well, wouldn't that what's the push for? Because at some point he's going to stop and then they're going to push him. So are they stopping the forward progress every single time now is that the expectation is the first time he stops is what the tush push is. Which goes to BA's point. None of us know what everybody's going to do, which is probably what the defenses would like to. A little clarity on. On aj.
- [68:56]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, everyone needs some clarity, I feel like. But also like the. It's getting worse as the season goes when it comes to the tush push and things like the stuff that I guess you should be able to figure out, that you shouldn't be making repeat mistakes. They continue to make them. And I'm sure there's. There's plenty of good refs out there. I know that there really is. But the problem is the bad ones make all of them look much worse.
- [69:13]
Pat McAfee
I feel I just heard BA say where. I just heard. No, there is. There certainly is good riffs. We're not going to say it's very difficult to get an entire team of good refs in. In this. In this environment. I mean, no, not a lot of people are signing up to be refs. You know, like, that is certainly an issue which goes back to we need that player pipeline.
- [69:36]
Bruce Arians
We need that academy.
- [69:37]
Pat McAfee
I think so. I legitimately think it's a good idea.
- [69:39]
Bruce Arians
Indeed.
- [69:40]
Pat McAfee
Do you think the NFL will ever get on board with it?
- [69:42]
Bruce Arians
I would think so. There. I mean, it's for former players. You know, for me, it's like whatever we can do to help a former player transition to the next. Next step after playing. We do it for broadcasting. We do it for some other things.
- [69:55]
Pat McAfee
Business. They do it for business. They do it for broadcast.
- [69:57]
Bruce Arians
Steve Freeman was the best back judge I ever knew because he played safety for 13 years. He knew exactly where his eyes were supposed to be all the time. And to me that was like, we need more Steve Friedman's out here.
- [70:08]
Pat McAfee
And we're not saying that all refs have to be former players, but we're saying if we can recruit former players to become a officials by this academy that the NFL and the NFLPA have done for. Many of you talked about broadcast. They did for business as well. I think there's a social media one now. There's like, there's all these different things that kind of get pieced together, like little boot camps that get pieced together to help players do it. If it was actually that big of a deal to the league, I mean you can make that a year round thing, offer salaries, you can get on scholarship, you can even get sponsors to get in there because everybody wants the ref thing to be fixed and you're taking care of former players. Easy baby face. Move by the NFL or do this. And I think you'd get guys that appreciate the job, know the job, and also aren't scared. Like I think some people in some of these calls are scared to make the call. And it's like, are you scared? Are you confident? Like what is going on? And new refs probably getting intimidated. I would say that is something that could certainly happen, especially on NFL field. Whenever you're seeing people that maybe you even played video games with playing alongside.
- [71:03]
AJ Hawk
You and they're talking to you and you got BA in your ear as well. That's a real, that's a not a lost start. But that's the thing great coaches do. They will work the refs to where you, you might get a little, you might get a little help as the game goes on.
- [71:13]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, and a little frantic too. You're getting in there maybe a little frazzled. I'm not saying every ref, but we're just saying like, if we can get players in these positions, I, I think that would be good for the game. And I think we should be trying to promote that legitimately. I think that's something they should think about doing well.
- [71:26]
Foxy
And the whole thing, it's strictly about accountability. Like, guess what? Refs are going to screw it up no matter what forever. But if you're not accountable, then you'll just continue to screw up and it won't matter whatsoever because it didn't matter then and just skate by and go to the next game. And to your point about the aggregator tweet, yeah, it was like early whistle on the Eagles before the fumble. That's wrong. But you know, 10 million views later, everyone thinks that there's an early whistle. So people not knowing ball, also a massive problem. But like no matter what the pipelines absolutely should happen, people from those pipelines will get calls wrong. Like that happens. No matter. Human error forever in the past and the future future will always happen, but it's strictly accountability. Like if you don't have accountability, then nothing actually matters.
- [72:11]
Pat McAfee
And on that note, Gene Ster, right, we've talked to him a lot about how he handles being ref. And he's like, hey, you know what? DB was holding a little bit, didn't affect the play. We kind of carry on here. This one not a part of the play. We just Kind of keep it feel like a feel for the. And I'm not saying that there's zero NFL officials currently that have feel. Feel for the game. I'm sure. Just saying like ex players would have that feel. You know, it's like we should. That seems like a tra.
- [72:38]
AJ Hawk
Get the easy ones right. You got to get the easy ones right. Like, that's the thing. Like, I understand there's some tough ones. There's some. You know, was that PI? Was it not PI. Whatever. It's just those. I understand a little bit the judgment calls with some of these things, like seem like almost day one. Install stuff for rep Broderick Jones there 77.
- [72:55]
Pat McAfee
I mean, him going in motion. That. That is literally what he did. He one motion. And then the refs are like, hey, listen, listen, we'll make up for you.
- [73:03]
Ty Schmidt
We'll get you back there.
- [73:05]
Pat McAfee
We'll let you get two guys off sides. Almost touch on third down, like for Aaron Rodgers is pretty big down here. This is the money down in his head. Third and eight. Okay. Obviously third and long, but I got a free shot here at anything. Okay, guys, covered. But let's go ahead and give it a go here. Why not? You know, let's just kind of the.
- [73:20]
Foxy
Most touchdowns in the history of the NFL with free plays.
- [73:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah. That's an Aaron's thing. Too many men jump up, false start, offsides. His cadence is his cadence. That is why he does it. So he feels like, yep, did it again. Hello, Pittsburgh. This is the show. And him getting it to Green Bay, probably like, oh, yeah, yeah, this is my shit. You know, I took you down trip down memory lane real quick, getting a free play. And then the refs just being like, yeah, it's fourth down, bro. Yeah, that was an incomplete pass.
- [73:47]
Ty Schmidt
Good pressure, by the way.
- [73:48]
Tone
We punted it and never got another stop. And that was the end of the game.
- [73:51]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. So you guys lost. Not. Not because Bret Michaels wasn't hurt by the entire stadium. You lost because of this.
- [73:58]
Tone
Yeah.
- [73:59]
Pat McAfee
Mike has drawn his own guys offsides, you know, trying to bait Zach Frazier. Got his hand on a ball. Obviously not.
- [74:05]
Tone
Definitely lost that because of that.
- [74:07]
Pat McAfee
That's crazy that that happened to you guys. And you guys are calling for people's jobs. No, kid, you should be. Nobody's calling for anybody's jobs yet.
- [74:15]
Tone
We're just pointing out facts so everyone else can come to their own conclusions.
- [74:20]
Foxy
I like that.
- [74:21]
Pat McAfee
What would that be described?
- [74:22]
AJ Hawk
What is your conclusion?
- [74:23]
Tone
Leading the. The witness leading.
- [74:27]
Pat McAfee
On that note, let's do A little BS or no BS with BA shall we? This is one of our favorite segments. Every single week we present a statement of fact to Coach BA and he tells us, tells us if that's BS or if that's no bs. Here's the first one. Running back, that trick. Oh, sorry, I missed. I missed it. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. I got real excited. I got real excited. I got real excited.
- [74:52]
AJ Hawk
That was great.
- [74:52]
Pat McAfee
I got really, really, really excited. Running back that brink truck up. Okay, like back that ass up. Are we thinking that running backs are about to get paid? Running backs are about to get the brink truck. Is that B.S. or no BSBA?
- [75:07]
Bruce Arians
That's no B.S. i mean you look at the guys that just got paid, they're going to get paid a whole lot more. And then you got all these young guys who are absolutely tearing it up. But the thing I think that separates most of the, especially the young guys getting ready be paid is that they're great receivers.
- [75:23]
Pat McAfee
The great receivers had got a lot of money. Quarterbacks obviously got a lot of money. Defensive ends got a lot of money. The running backs weren't getting paid. They were saying that the running backs there was like 30 of them. No big deal. We could put anybody in these jobs. They actually had like a little bit of a holdout. These running backs, if you remember Saquon at one point alongside Jonathan Taylor, they said, we're not doing it anymore, we're not going to play. Jonathan Taylor was the only one that really stuck to it. I, I must say, okay, everybody else kind of folded. Jonathan Taylor remained with his hoodie up and at practice saying, nope, I'm worth more. You need to pay me now. They inevitably did. I didn't love the way he went about doing it. They need to pay him again. So we don't have that situation. But it does feel like the running back is becoming the main feature of offenses that are great again. And that's got to be special. As an old time football coach, yeah.
- [76:08]
Bruce Arians
You look at Christian McCaffrey, but two weeks ago, 63% of the offense was Christian McCaffrey and was what, 140 something yards rushing, seven catches. And I think that's what, that's what separates those guys, that there's such mismatches in the passing game. Gibbs, Acne, Bijan, all these guys are huge mis. Mismatches in the passing game.
- [76:31]
Pat McAfee
So that wasn't always a thing. I remember back whenever they would say like, well this running back doesn't have good hands nowadays. You kind of have to don't doesn't everybody kind of have to have good hands at this stage of football?
- [76:41]
Bruce Arians
I think the only guy right now who's a great running back that plays first is second down is Derrick Henry. He's never in there on third down and he can catch. He's great on screens and stuff. So I don't know why he doesn't.
- [76:51]
Pat McAfee
Play more on third down.
- [76:53]
Bruce Arians
Because I wouldn't mind checking it down to him. Let him go.
- [76:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, of course. That'd be nice to give Derek Henry the ball. They're two and six right now. The, the thought of back in the day, though, you talked about the first two downs. If a wide or if a running back could run routes like a wide receiver, it was like this guy's feet are absolutely unbelievable. Now it's basically, hey, you're a running back. You got to catch, you got to run a route, you got to be able to block. You're almost like a tight end in a backfield all of a sudden, and you're getting ball handed to you. I think that's inevitably going to lead to the value going way up. How long does this last for? Is this the new fad? You know, because like, them not being valuable was a fad and then now they're back. Is this sustainable? We think this is how everybody's going to try to build. Are there enough of these guys out there?
- [77:34]
Bruce Arians
I think there are. And they're getting more and more coming from college that are really multidimensional. And the speed factor is unbelievable. But when you look at Bijan Robinson with Algiers in the backfield, him splitting out, who's covering him? If it's a linebacker or safety, that ball's coming right now. Here we go, baby. And you know, I go back to the days where I had Christian Okoye and barry word. Big 260, 250 backs first and second down, third down. Here comes Todd McNair. He leads the team in receiving. We play the Chargers. Big back Ronnie Harmon comes in. You can't cover this guy. Yeah, he's gonna beat you every time. And so I see the halfback, you know, it went to H backs, tight ends kind of became the mismatch. Brock Bowers, those type guys. Now it's coming back to the halfbacks. You're seeing a lot more empty sets. Those guys going, especially in a two back set, say they got a big back and a fast guy. I wouldn't be surprised to see Detroit have Montgomery and Gibbs in the game real soon together.
- [78:28]
Pat McAfee
Oh, though tag team Sonic and Knuckles. Did you hear what they were calling them after week one up there in Detroit? BA did you hear what they were calling him?
- [78:35]
Bruce Arians
No, I did not.
- [78:36]
Pat McAfee
Oh, hey, foxy. What were you guys calling. What were you calling them specifically? These guys. They're leading your team now. Don't listen to Pat. I never called him this, but after week one, when we got our asses kicked by the packers, instead of Sonic and Knuckles, they were calling them ass and cheeks. And I didn't like it one bit.
- [78:52]
Ravi
Coach.
- [78:54]
Bruce Arians
They were saying up there, sometimes you got to eat dead.
- [79:00]
Pat McAfee
Sometimes you do. AJ you were in the CT hardhead era of running backs and obviously middle linebacker. Wasn't that a convo? Like, hey, this running back can catch good now. It's like, yeah, of course that everybody has to.
- [79:14]
Foxy
Yeah, yeah.
- [79:14]
AJ Hawk
And BA Hit on. It's like the matchups I remember. I mean, Reggie Bush in Detroit, they'd motion him out to one. You got a linebacker running out there playing like you're trying to get in a weird little corner stance and act like you're comfortable out there covering Reggie Bush, like, running routes. So, yeah, it creates matchup issues everywhere, wherein these guys now, like, they're so fluid in their routes as well. Like, think about it. You can. You can get your matchups you want. You can make it like, you can kind of manipulate everything right here. Just get the ball in space. It's like a. It's a low risk play. And the dude can do things like this with the ball and you just little. It's basically a toss sweep that golf throws to him and he can take it to the house.
- [79:50]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you said you can manipulate matchups. Can we explain that a little bit more? So obviously got two outside wide receivers. Those are going to eat up the corners. Then you got probably a slot in there that's going to eat up your nickel. So normally the running back is being guarded by a linebacker right in that kind of. Unless they go to dime and then they'll have a safety kind of covering them.
- [80:08]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, and he's got to be able to tackle in the box because you put that personnel in, they're going to run the ball on you. All right, so if you're trying to match up with DBs, they're going to run it down your throat. That's the beauty of having two backs. All right, Are you going to treat this as pony and play nickel? Well, that big back's going to pound your ass. All right? And if you try to load the box. Here we go. With the, that mismatch, that's the beauty of the chess game of football.
- [80:30]
Pat McAfee
So the running back being able to catch. That's why it was such a big conversation. Like, hey, have to have a linebacker in here? Because we'll just pound them if they don't. But if they have linebacker in here, he runs 47. We got. Guy runs 43, 44 back here. So that's an automatic mismatch basically in every style of offense. Or is it just certain styles of offense?
- [80:48]
Bruce Arians
I think it's every. I mean, I go back to Marshall Falk, who I thought probably was the best running the football and running routes. Then we had David Johnson in Arizona, who close to had a thousand and a thousand. Real close. Those guys are. They're very, very hard to find. But I'm seeing more and more of them coming into the league now.
- [81:07]
Pat McAfee
Joseph Adai, I was very lucky to watch him work. He worked on his routes like he worked on his cuts and everything like that. And I remember people around him talking about how ab. Like some people are telling him he's wasting time getting good at that, like as a running back. And he thought, like, if I can get open, Peyton's going to throw me the ball like this. I want to. I would like to shake the shit out of these guys and get the ball from Peyton. He did just that. Almost got an MVP in a Super Bowl. I mean, I mean, he is. You're talking about being an absolute beast, but that was. Whenever I was rookie. That's how they were talking. That's 2009. People were talking like, hey, what are you doing this for? Almost. And then now it's like, if you don't do this, you're probably not going to see the field. It's. It's an interesting kind of evolution of the position, I think.
- [81:47]
Tone
Remember, Le'Veon was doing it at £225.
- [81:50]
AJ Hawk
He was so freak. Absolute freak.
- [81:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he was awesome to watch play football. I mean, that was.
- [81:56]
AJ Hawk
He was real fun to cover his same thing. They would do that where linebackers have him. Like, it'd be, you have a two on one, like me with the other backer. And Le'Veon's back there and you're sitting there like, man, just please don't motion out the slot. Just don't send this dude out. Third down, he just pops up his little, you know, his little saunters out there. And I'm sitting there with outside leverage, looking my inside, inside. Hey, you better be hard inside, buddy. I am pushing him inside. We are. And he shakes both of us like, all right, cool. This is fun. You do that before straight quarters?
- [82:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [82:23]
AJ Hawk
Terrible.
- [82:24]
Pat McAfee
Who's calling place? Was that you? I don't. I wonder if that was ba.
- [82:27]
Bruce Arians
I didn't have the killer bees.
- [82:29]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Yeah. I appreciate Todd Haley seeing the milk check out there, too, with AJ Hawk rolling out. Yeah. Hey, Lev. Yeah. We're gonna do.
- [82:37]
AJ Hawk
We try to keep him in. You try. That's when you try to keep men. You go hug. You hug the A gap. Like, I'm blitzing, buddy.
- [82:41]
Pat McAfee
You got.
- [82:41]
AJ Hawk
Got to stay in, right? He would never even honor us because I never got to go.
- [82:44]
Pat McAfee
Never honor us.
- [82:46]
Ty Schmidt
He never.
- [82:46]
Pat McAfee
He's like, I know.
- [82:47]
AJ Hawk
I've watched film, bud. You're not coming.
- [82:49]
Bruce Arians
I know.
- [82:49]
Pat McAfee
You got. Look at me, bro. Look at me, dude. That's coming.
- [82:53]
AJ Hawk
Here we go.
- [82:54]
Pat McAfee
Never honored us. What a way to describe that. They never took us serious. Every time we showed. They never honored us. They. I'd have to get out from the O line, actually, or D line and go out to go ahead. Come.
- [83:04]
Foxy
Was Todd Gurley like that? Like Todd Gurley? The stats always come around where it's like, Todd Gurley would be fifth in touchdowns going back back to 2015, and now, like, was he overseeing.
- [83:13]
Pat McAfee
What do you have a knee?
- [83:14]
Ty Schmidt
He has, like, degenerative knee disease or something?
- [83:16]
Pat McAfee
He was, so.
- [83:17]
Tone
But yes, he was definitely like that.
- [83:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Running back's a fun position. I didn't even think about the way we're kind of talking about it and the way I think you want us to talk about it. It's like the tight end position obviously, having a massive uptick for everybody. Like, hey, need one running back position. Is that plus some. Because you can just hand them the ball. Not that you can't do that to a tight end, but you can literally really just. Yeah, do this one here. Good. For the running backs. It was. It was a little dicey there for a little bit. It was. It was.
- [83:42]
Bruce Arians
It was.
- [83:42]
Pat McAfee
It was a little dicey there for a little bit for the position. Congrats to them. Now let's go to the second statement of fact that they've been saying BA.
- [83:49]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Bruce, there's a lot of chatter out there that every head coach in the AFC north is on the hot seat. Is that BS or no bsba?
- [83:58]
Bruce Arians
I think that's no BS this was supposed to be the best division in the football. They got one team with a winning record of 4 and 3. All right, that's not good. And they got to play each other Nine and eight might win the division. Whoever wins the division gets to come back next year. I think the other three are probably looking for a job.
- [84:18]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Now, whenever we put this together, this graphic, I looked at that because you never really think an entire division's head coaching staff is potentially going to be changed in one off season, you know, because somebody has to win the AFC north, which is kind of what you're saying at 9 and 8. But you look at some of the legends there, you know, like, Tomlin's been in the Pittsburgh Steelers a long time. Harbaugh's been with the Baltimore Ravens long time. Now, obviously, Stefanski's been through it.
- [84:40]
Tone
Two time coach of the year.
- [84:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Like four or five different eras of the Cleveland Browns. And to your point, two time coach of the year. And then Zach Taylor with the Bengals. There's like, at the beginning, this guy's a doofus. Then he goes to the Super Bowl.
- [84:51]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [84:51]
Pat McAfee
With Cincinnati Bengals, this guy's a king. And now everybody's kind of cooled off. All the fan bases have cooled off basically on all of these coaches. And I don't know how loud and how long that can be, but whenever I saw this graphic and then I s. You were saying no bs, it's like, that would be wild if the entire AFC north got a new facelift.
- [85:08]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [85:08]
Pat McAfee
That would be an insane thing, especially for how traditional and how historic the AFC north is as a whole.
- [85:14]
Foxy
Yeah. Now, the stats, especially when it comes to Zach Taylor, to your point, are coming out how, you know, the teams that have scored 38 plus points in NFL history are, you know, 200, 260. Not the exact number, but 266 and one. And the Bengals are one in three in those games. And they're the only team to lose multiple games that way. And so I saw a lot of people more so kind of broaching the question, hey, why haven't you changed anything if this hasn't been working?
- [85:40]
Pat McAfee
Here's a stat from Hembo for the defensive side of the things which we can certainly visit here. Scoring defense of every division. This is points per game that they give up. AFC North 27.4 points per game they're giving up.
- [85:52]
Tone
Who put that emoji there?
- [85:53]
Pat McAfee
That was Hembo.
- [85:54]
Tone
Hembo did that?
- [85:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Hembo said it's a little dookie, brother. I'll tell you what, you never want to be described as dookie. That's about as shitty as it can get. And when you look at that, you think about the AFC North. It's a defensive led division, which is why this. Cleveland's defense, Pittsburgh's defense, Baltimore's defense. The only one that we don't think about defense immediately is Cincinnati Bengals. That's because they paid so much money to the offense. But. But that's supposed to be a defensive heavy grind and pound type division. And then the stats are coming out like no, not like that at all. And when expectations are this and you come in like this, that's whenever you know potential jobs. But all these franchises are super slow moving.
- [86:34]
Bruce Arians
Yes.
- [86:34]
Pat McAfee
They come to these types of decisions.
- [86:36]
Ty Schmidt
Well, and that's what I was going to ask you. BA Is like when you got guys like Tomlin and Harbaugh who have been there for so long and our hall of Fame coaches. If there is like a big facelift in the AFC north, do you think talent, the pool in the NFL, like will they be able to just replace those guys with ease? Because that's what we're talking about in college right now is like all these guys are getting fired and it's like, well, are we going to be able to find good enough?
- [86:59]
Pat McAfee
I don't even want to get into that right now. But who are filling all these college.
- [87:02]
Ty Schmidt
That's what I mean. Like the talent pool is just not there. Like, are you. Is the NFL always going to find that next guy though?
- [87:08]
Bruce Arians
I don't think so. I think each one of these teams historically has been very, very consistent with. They do. And if. Who is behind door number two? That's your question. And if I got a guy that really likes behind door number two, I'm going to make a move. But if. If it's just a bunch of guys. No, I'm keep my guy. He knows what he's doing. He just had a bad year, you know. But for this division, especially if they lose in the first round of the playoffs, for this division to get wiped out that fast, that's not good.
- [87:36]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the. The who is going to be your coach next combo seemingly comes after the fact.
- [87:42]
AJ Hawk
You gotta have some. You gotta have. I would imagine you only do it if you have like one or two people in mind that you really want to go after that you think you can get right.
- [87:49]
Pat McAfee
We're doing BS or no BS with BA right now. So I don't want to get off topic, but like all these college jobs, who. Who are they hiring? Who's. Everybody. Everybody has money. Okay. Everybody has good nil. Everybody has good opportunity. Who's. And you know, you could add Virginia Tech of this thing. There's A lot of good opportunities out. Who's hired, who's going to get hired for all these jobs?
- [88:10]
Ty Schmidt
Well, is it just going to be like musical chairs and like the guys that got fired are just going to.
- [88:15]
Pat McAfee
James Franklin heading to Florida.
- [88:16]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly. Brian Kelly's back of pen.
- [88:19]
Pat McAfee
He's a northern guy.
- [88:20]
Tone
I would rather do like the what Oregon with Dan Lanning. Like hey, try to find an upand cominging coordinator who you know is. Well, it's hard to know.
- [88:28]
Pat McAfee
So for the Steelers, if the Steelers were to move on from coach Tomlin which by the way very unlikely unless Coach Tomlin wants to. That is just. And you know we say slow moving. They would describe it as patience and they judge other organizations that make too quick of decisions. They this is professional football that's run by a bunch of emotional amateurs that make decisions, split decision because they don't know what they're doing. That is how it's described whenever they hang on to coaches. That is what people say about their facility. We are patient, we build. We like to you know the fine foundation to be strong in this entire thing. Now the fans of those teams say I'm bought sick of this particular foundation. I'd like a new house. But within those buildings they don't feel that way. It's like hey this is our house. We're very proud of it. So who would you want for. Let's say you were a Pittsburgh Steelers.
- [89:16]
Foxy
Sure.
- [89:16]
Pat McAfee
And they were to move on from coach Stunt. What type of coach would you be looking for? Because they go young Defense.
- [89:21]
Tone
Yes.
- [89:22]
Pat McAfee
The last like three times.
- [89:23]
Tone
That was going to be my immediate answer because they've had three coaches since I think it was 68 or something like that when Chuck Noel was hired and obviously Cower was a young special teams coach. Tomlin a young defensive coach. That's the where you would immediately look because we're just. That's just who we are. And we want our coach to be able to be able to be there for 15 to 20 years. I would not want a retread coach. But yeah, like a young, like someone who. Tomlin is great. He's been a great and he's been a great players coach but maybe someone who, someone who's maybe a little more stern.
- [89:57]
Pat McAfee
So Harbaugh now let's say the Baltimore Ravens, if they were to move on from Harbaugh, who do you think Butter and the boys over there would be hoping would become the Baltimore Ravens?
- [90:06]
Tone
Great question.
- [90:06]
Foxy
Bring Minter back.
- [90:07]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, that would be.
- [90:08]
Tone
That was what I was leaning to.
- [90:10]
Pat McAfee
Mentor would be a dog, obviously.
- [90:11]
Foxy
And then like the college conversation, like do you really look for a coach or do you just look for the quarterback and then tell the OC the quarterback, hey, you're the head coach.
- [90:19]
Pat McAfee
Bring them. Good win by you guys. I can't believe. I can't believe Virginia Tech, Cal song Polytelli is going to be a special. He's going to stay at cow. Ron Vera's got him figured out. I don't want to get into the calgorithm for saying anything negative, but college obviously much crazier. The NFL though, I'll be excited to see who the next ones are that kind of come through here. But an entire division, especially like a historic division having all of their coaches potentially on the hot seat is crazy. AJ Hawk.
- [90:50]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I don't know. I mean that would be wild if that did happen. But there's. I guess with all these opportunities out there, like we're going to see some young up and comers that we don't really know much about. Get, get a chance. Get a chance to. Hey, can you can be the guy. What about. We'll see who it is.
- [91:04]
Pat McAfee
Halfley's been a head coach before.
- [91:06]
AJ Hawk
He's pretty happy where he's at though.
- [91:07]
Pat McAfee
He like.
- [91:08]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, he's got Micah now. Yeah, like he's doing great.
- [91:11]
Pat McAfee
He's got Micah jumping off sides, pushing his D tackle off sides. And they're not calling it. That would be fun.
- [91:15]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
- [91:15]
Pat McAfee
That would be fun thing to have.
- [91:17]
Bruce Arians
If you had it.
- [91:17]
Ty Schmidt
It's perfect.
- [91:18]
Bruce Arians
There was one thing that upset me watching that game.
- [91:20]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [91:21]
Bruce Arians
I never seen the Steelers have to use a silent count at home.
- [91:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Aaron talked about that.
- [91:26]
Bruce Arians
And for the Steeler fans. Oh no, that's embarrassing.
- [91:30]
Pat McAfee
Oh no.
- [91:31]
Bruce Arians
I mean do we have the Packer fans and I still call it Hinesfield, but it is. When, when, when is that? That's. That's unheard of.
- [91:39]
Pat McAfee
Go Pack, go.
- [91:40]
Bruce Arians
I mean, what. Oh, that was a bad sign for me.
- [91:43]
Pat McAfee
Well, they're quarterback.
- [91:44]
Tone
Their quarterback for 20 years.
- [91:45]
Bruce Arians
They.
- [91:46]
Tone
They bought these tickets years, years and years and years ago. This, they circled this, this game on their calendars.
- [91:51]
Pat McAfee
For on that note, I think you could circle back to Pittsburgh is a football town and Pittsburgh has seen a lot of football over there that is not in their eyes. Super bowl football and status quo has kind of just snuck in. Is like, yep, this is what we're doing now. On that note, Steelers did vastly different things this offseason.
- [92:12]
Tone
Yes.
- [92:12]
Pat McAfee
Paid a lot of money in dk Burn some free agents. Brought in Aaron Rodgers. Like, I think they tried to mix it up, but I think Steelers fans are at the point of like, we're done with being a winning season.
- [92:21]
Tone
I talk to a lot of fans who are leaving that game, like, what are we even doing wasting our time coming down here to watch this product?
- [92:28]
Pat McAfee
Okay, that's where they're at.
- [92:29]
AJ Hawk
That's not just scoring points though. You're scoring points.
- [92:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, agreed. But then they can't stop anybody on the other. So that's almost even worse. Now we in our left hand and we eat our right. That's great that that is kind of how they feel. But that it's a fickle bunch, it's an emotional bunch, big time football fans. But I think for the last what, three, four years it's been like the same thing. Like, hey, we're done with the. Since Ben, we're done with the nine and eight. Okay. Because we don't even get a good draft pick. Yeah, we don't even get a good draft pick. So we're about.
- [92:59]
Ty Schmidt
It's kind of always in purgatory.
- [93:00]
Pat McAfee
That's what. And Steelers fans know that they're in purgatory. I think, I think Steelers fans know, not that that's definitely the case for the. This year's team, this year's team has enough talent. They can obviously turn it around, defense can start flying around, they can go win a Super Bowl. But I think, I don't think Ginzer's fans are fucking listening to that right now. I think it's a late night on Sunday, I gotta work on Monday and we're gonna lose. Like I don't think so. But that is how Yinzer's probably think.
- [93:22]
Foxy
And what sucks too, like the draft pick for sure. But like Patriots fans are getting it right now. Like you guys are playing no. 1, you're playing no.
- [93:27]
AJ Hawk
1.
- [93:27]
Foxy
Like the benefit of finishing last is you get an easier schedule. Like you do a couple years of last year place, all of a sudden you're not in prime time playing the pack. You're not, you know, taking on the Chiefs. They're in the AFC North. That's always going to be hard. But like, then you're out of division games, you're not in a gauntlet. So like the benefits of having a couple shitty seasons is, hey, on the horizon you are going to get an easier schedule and your team will get better and then it's just a matter of hitting on the quarterback. But when, when you're looking at the Colts, the Seahawks, a few of These teams, it's like, hey, you don't have to draft a good quarterback anymore. You just need to get a better one.
- [93:59]
Pat McAfee
A lot of people are saying to us, yeah, Patriots and Colts, you guys haven't played anybody. And Connor, you were the one who said, yeah, we sucked. We got a shitty schedule. And I was like, yeah, we did. We, we earned this. It just goes, we earned this. What are you coming after us for? We earned this thing. And it's any given Sunday, the NFL.
- [94:14]
Foxy
Yeah, it is. And like the Browns are the third best defense in the NFL, but the Browns aren't good when Drake May does well. And then the other thing too is like, by the way, this just all goes back to nobody knows ball on the Internet. Like, there's a reason coaches don't go on the Internet because no one has a fucking clue what they're talking about. About anything, but especially football. Sure, I'm sure you could find them. But like, that's the benefit that the Steelers will never get. You know, it's always focused on how the draft picks in the middle. But like, the other thing is that schedule, because the AFC north is going to be hard no matter what division games in general are going to be hard no matter what. But if you don't finish in that bottom two, you're out of conference. Games are never going to be easy and then you're going to be screwed no matter what.
- [94:52]
Pat McAfee
And the Cleveland Browns for a long time and said, hey, hey, we're going to take that. Yeah, we're going to take that bottom spot. Okay. Long time. We're going to go ahead and take that bottom spot. We're going to get that bad schedule and we're going to do bad again so we can get it again.
- [95:04]
Bruce Arians
If we don't, we'll get rid of the quarterback who was envy was a rookie of the year.
- [95:08]
Foxy
Yeah, exactly.
- [95:08]
Pat McAfee
Because you know what we want? We want that bad schedule we don't want.
- [95:12]
Foxy
Yeah. But instead of Baker, they get a 40 million defense vent who just bitches and moans about the offense every game even though he signed up for it after requesting a trade.
- [95:19]
Ty Schmidt
That.
- [95:19]
Foxy
That's even better.
- [95:20]
Pat McAfee
No, no, even better is you pay $230 million guaranteed for a guy. Yeah, you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You forgot. Yeah, you forgot that part of the whole thing that they're still living under. Oh, yeah.
- [95:30]
Ty Schmidt
And on that he might play this year.
- [95:32]
Pat McAfee
I saw him working out. Oh, yeah, I hope I saw him.
- [95:35]
Foxy
Working out one game. 200 million. I mean that, that is what I call Contract, baby. Hit mulgeta. Hats off.
- [95:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. David M. Really always doing this one here. You know Jimmy Sexton season's currently happening in color. College ball bulla get the season always cooking. Who can I break a record with next? You don't show up. Don't even think.
- [95:58]
Foxy
Come here, Michael.
- [95:59]
Bruce Arians
Come here.
- [95:59]
Pat McAfee
Come here. Michael.
- [96:00]
Tone
Yeah.
- [96:01]
Pat McAfee
You talked to Jerry Wen? What'd you say? No, you didn't. Connor's got the last BS or no BS Would be.
- [96:07]
Foxy
Yeah. Let's move on from the AFC North, Bruce. The AFC south and NFC South Division races are over.
- [96:14]
Bruce Arians
I think that's total bullshit.
- [96:15]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [96:16]
Ty Schmidt
Whoa.
- [96:17]
Pat McAfee
No. Guy was just on the show.
- [96:19]
Bruce Arians
7 and 1, 6 and 2. But the teams behind him, they got to play twice. They still got to play twice. That part of it's a lot of football. And the teams behind them are playing pretty good football. So I think they're going to do it. I think they'll win it, but I think they got a. They got to. They got a lot of football ahead of them. The Bucks need to get healthy. The Colts need to stay healthy.
- [96:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So the Jags obviously in second in the AFC South. Colts got Jags twice. Bruce told me that this morning. I figured we'd already play Liam team. We have not. Okay. I. I wish we would have got him a little bit earlier. I don't know what they're going to be at this stage, but good luck to the Jags.
- [96:55]
Ty Schmidt
They.
- [96:55]
Pat McAfee
We got to play them twice. So obviously that's a two that they could pick up on us and two in the right column. And then for the Buccaneers, who they have coming after them, they got the Panthers twice.
- [97:04]
Bruce Arians
So who is in or in second place? And of the two, I think both teams will end up winning.
- [97:10]
Tone
Don't forget the Texans.
- [97:11]
Pat McAfee
They're starting to play a little bit better. They certainly are that defense.
- [97:14]
Bruce Arians
For sure.
- [97:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Houston Texans. C.J. stroud. Maybe he's back. Maybe they're not ass.
- [97:19]
Bruce Arians
Okay.
- [97:19]
Pat McAfee
People aren't talking about them at all. Okay. They just beat the Niners. Yeah, it was with Mac Jones. Did you see the time of possession? What was the time of possession for that Texans game?
- [97:28]
Tone
I believe it was 24 to 6 in the first half, if I remember it correct.
- [97:31]
Pat McAfee
Think about that. BA20. I think it was like a record.
- [97:34]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [97:34]
Tone
Since it was the most time of possession in the first half, I want to say since 2009, the Texans possessed.
- [97:39]
Pat McAfee
The ball for 24 minutes and 31 seconds in the first half versus 49ers. That's the most time of possession since 2009 when the jets had 24 or 50 time possession versus the Bengals in week 17. Good pull tone. That's a very good pool. That's like two days ago.
- [97:51]
Foxy
Yeah, and that's the big worry with the Niners is like sure, Mac Jones and stuff, but their defense without Bosa and Fred Warner just isn't the 49ers defense we're used to anymore.
- [98:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But on that note, Houston Texans offense my had a wake up game. You know, this might have been an entire situation. And anytime you're dominating that much, your defense is also crushing Mack Jones and boys, quick three and outs can't be happening. But maybe the Texans are back. All right, that was BS or no BS for BA AJ Couple storylines happening around the NFL. Did you see Big Dom showed up for Scaboo?
- [98:26]
AJ Hawk
I did. I mean Big Dom is everywhere, but I wish I. I knew this dude. Like he. This guy's awesome.
- [98:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I mean just. Hey, you're in our city. Listen, least I could do. Cheesesteak pizza. We hope you're okay. Anything else you need, go ahead and reach out. Not too much, you know, because the Eagles, Giants type of thing. But just know that when you're in this city, we appreciate you. Then last night he was with Cooper G. At the Sixers game.
- [98:48]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [98:49]
Pat McAfee
Big Dom is Philadelphia. And I don't know if it gets talked about enough. Couple years back when he gets kicked off the field and they kind of go into the shoot.
- [98:56]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [98:56]
Pat McAfee
Big Dom is Philadelphia. Does every team have one of these guys that is kind of representative of the team, the city and everything basically that takes place around there?
- [99:05]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, I think everybody's got a really good security person, but Big Dom is, I think, top of the list. And I thought Tex Randall was one of the best there ever has been to.
- [99:11]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I love Tex Texa here at the Indianapolis Colts now. I think he would take a cheesesteak and a pizza to somebody. I think he would have been told to do that though. I don't think he's thinking about that. I think big Dog bum is kind of working the angles there. What a weapon for the Eagles to have. Now on that note, Eagles win the super bowl this year. Doesn't feel like it doesn't.
- [99:32]
AJ Hawk
It's possible. It's definitely possible.
- [99:33]
Pat McAfee
Well, I like that you kind of stayed on the.
- [99:36]
AJ Hawk
I didn't think about it. I had to think about it. Like, I don't know. I mean they could, but they all. Yeah.
- [99:39]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
- [99:39]
AJ Hawk
It's. They're a weird squad.
- [99:41]
Pat McAfee
Big Dom win another super bowl this year.
- [99:44]
Foxy
This year?
- [99:44]
Pat McAfee
Yep.
- [99:45]
AJ Hawk
I'll go. No, no, no, no, no. All right.
- [99:51]
Pat McAfee
I'm not gonna vote.
- [99:53]
Foxy
The other thing with Big Dom here, that we gotta remember, too. Big Dom saw what happened, okay? Hey, we got a great Giants running back in free agency, and all of a sudden, the Eagles are great. He's seen Scatterboo rookie year. He's like, hey, Mara. And then we're gonna screw this up. We are gonna get Scatterboo eventually. Don't you boys worry. I'll go get some zaz and steak and cheese for this guy.
- [100:11]
Pat McAfee
He's pre Portaling. Yes, he's pre portal. We talked about this yesterday. Whenever. You know, Lane Kiffin brought up the fact that his freshman wide receiver has a good Saturday, and then there's three teams calling him that night saying, hey, if you just were to get into the portal here in a couple months, I think we got about 1.52 million for you or whatever. And Lane's, like, talking about how that's every week now. That is just kind of modern world. So these guys understand that there's maybe teams that are calling me ahead of time as well. He said it's easier to kind of deal with all that shit. But that's crazy that that's the taking place in college football. Once again. We don't think it's right. We're just saying this is the reality situation. AJ And Big Dom would. Hey, he pre Portal a guy.
- [100:53]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [100:54]
Foxy
Smart.
- [100:54]
Pat McAfee
Big Dom pre portal.
- [100:55]
AJ Hawk
Big Dom makes it through all coaching stat. Whatever coach is there. Big Dom has made it through everyone, right?
- [101:00]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [101:01]
Foxy
Yeah, yeah. And it's not tampering because not many people like that.
- [101:04]
Pat McAfee
What'd you say?
- [101:05]
Foxy
I say it's not tampering because they're both Italian. I mean, it's just two Italian guys sharing a meal, helping you each other out.
- [101:10]
Pat McAfee
Is scooo a tie.
- [101:12]
Tone
It does end in an O.
- [101:13]
Pat McAfee
But his dad's name is what?
- [101:14]
Ty Schmidt
Leo. Leo.
- [101:15]
Pat McAfee
That seems Leonardo. Yeah. Now we're talking. I think Boom boom. Scatter booms. Yeah. Leo Scab Booms. I think he probably.
- [101:24]
Tone
We will accept.
- [101:24]
Foxy
What's he own, a pest business? Yeah, I think he's Italian.
- [101:27]
Pat McAfee
Hey, Grazi.
- [101:28]
Tone
Oh, you need something taken care of?
- [101:29]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [101:30]
Pat McAfee
No, Cam, Scabo is not Italian. He's actually Norwegian with a little bit of Portuguese.
- [101:34]
Bruce Arians
Portuguese.
- [101:35]
Foxy
Close enough.
- [101:35]
Pat McAfee
Up. Mike Pereira. Same situation.
- [101:37]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Bingo.
- [101:37]
Bruce Arians
Yes.
- [101:38]
Pat McAfee
Mike Pereira. Portuguese man we just call Italian.
- [101:41]
Foxy
Yeah, it counts. He said it counts.
- [101:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, I don't.
- [101:44]
Tone
He's honorary.
- [101:45]
Pat McAfee
Hey, shout out. Scatter. Boo. And dog. How about Dom taking that to a Norwegian guy?
- [101:50]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly. Probably thought he was Italian. I'm sure they did the how's your mother?
- [101:54]
Pat McAfee
How's your family?
- [101:54]
Ty Schmidt
How you doing? You know, and then realized afterwards, oh, kid's not Italian.
- [101:58]
Pat McAfee
You know, he was Portuguese.
- [101:59]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I didn't know that. Go get the cheesesteaks.
- [102:01]
Tone
Kid didn't even touch the pepperoni.
- [102:04]
Pat McAfee
That is probably what he said. No E at the end. Yeah, no e at the end. I respect that, though. I appreciate that. Wentz is going to IR with a shoulder injury. Obviously played through it. This dude animal. I mean, it's part of the Carson Wentz experience. Yeah, this is part of it. What are your thoughts on Carson Wentz as the quarterback? Because can I. Can I give you mine?
- [102:23]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [102:23]
Pat McAfee
As a non quarterback whisperer, I think he thinks every play is supposed to be a touchdown. And I think he would die on the field for every single single play. I think that was a good thing. Whenever he was playing mvp, like football with the Philadelphia Eagles, I think him and Doug and Frank had a good system going over there. I think they had it kind of wrangled. He came over here to the Colts. Every play was like, literally living or dying with. I have no idea how his family was able to watch him play for his entire life. Just their hearts and stuff like that. Because he looks like he's either gonna get severely injured or have a touch touchdown. Basically every single snap, like 67 snaps a game. What are your thoughts on Carson Wentz, the quarterback as a whole? Obviously, he has a Super bowl ring, but those types of guys that every play is like 100 or 0. How do you kind of manage that?
- [103:10]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, I think you do have to manage it because you. You want that mentality. I'm scoring every play, but don't make this great. Throw 20 yards down the field and miss a wide ass flare. The easy one, it misses too many easy ones. All right. The consistency and his accuracy is the only thing I would hold back. Toughness. Everything you're talking about, he's. He's off the charts. Everything. I hear he's a great leader, all that stuff, but inconsistent accuracy is to me.
- [103:40]
Pat McAfee
How about whenever, like, Andrew Luck was kind of like this, Andrew Luck felt like he was disrespecting football if he was to give up on a play. Like, everybody was telling him, like, hey, you need to step out, you need a slide. And he said, I'm like 6, 5, 240 pounds, I'm fast. This is football. Like, his mentality was like, yeah, right. I'm disrespecting my family. I'm disrespecting the sport. If I was to kind of bail out, what do you. What is the messaging to people like that? Because I think Carson has a similar thing. Oh, yeah, hey, Carson is willing to take four hits as opposed to maybe bailing out because he thinks he's disrespecting football. Have you run into those types of quarterbacks before? And what is the message?
- [104:19]
Bruce Arians
A bunch of them, especially their first and second year, trying to win over the locker room. I'm a tough guy. Hey, you guys can count on me. I'm tough. I ain't running out of bounds. I'm. And now you see all these young quarterbacks hurt, all right? They're running and not sliding. Andrew was maybe the worst. I said, look, if you do you throw another interception, tackle your right shoulder, I'm going to kick your ass. You only tackle your left shoulder.
- [104:40]
Pat McAfee
Start D. He would die, dude. He would coke try to kill him. Yes. He was trying to be cleat people. Kevin Seifert of ESPN reported Kevin OConnell insisted that Carson Wentz told him repeatedly that he wanted to play as long as he possibly could. After injuring his left shoulder, it had been a while since he had played meaningful games. Per Ocono, Wentz decided Friday morning it was time to have surgery. All right, I can't lift this thing anymore.
- [105:00]
Foxy
Cut it off.
- [105:01]
Pat McAfee
I guess we should do surgery. How about Kevin OConnell gun? The conversations we had. They have a mic up. I'm just like, bud, I don't think you should go. He's.
- [105:07]
Ty Schmidt
He did it.
- [105:08]
Daniel Jones
He did it for us.
- [105:09]
Tone
He did it for our entertainment.
- [105:10]
Pat McAfee
And that's what Carson Wentz is like. We have so much respect for him. I think AJ because of that. But inevitably, I don't know if that wins a Super bowl at quarterback.
- [105:18]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I don't know if it does, but it does. Yeah. I would much rather be that way than the other way. Scared to pull the trigger, Checking it down all day, taking sacks like I like. I love his creativity and his. His gutsiness in the pocket, I guess.
- [105:29]
Pat McAfee
Pocket. AJ Carson Wentz might want to dabble with a new profession. I think he'd be great at it. WWE and can you sense it, ladies and gentlemen? Can you feel it? Can you feel it?
- [105:44]
Bruce Arians
No.
- [105:45]
Pat McAfee
What? I can't.
- [105:46]
Foxy
Can you feel it?
- [105:47]
Pat McAfee
Can you feel it?
- [105:48]
Ty Schmidt
You're goddamn right I can feel it.
- [105:49]
Pat McAfee
Con man. I can smell it, aj. Can you feel it?
- [105:53]
AJ Hawk
I'm starting to feel it. Yeah.
- [105:55]
Pat McAfee
It's almost WrestleMania season in Vegas, baby. Oh, they say in Vegas, everyone's gotta tell. A blink, a breath, a moment that can't be controlled. But the great ones, they use it to their advantage. They own it. They've got them right where they want them. The rest, Michael Cole just haven't figured it out yet. WrestleMania, Vegas, it's anyone's game. Oh, can you feel it now? You can feel it now, aj. Can you feel that? There was no Michael Cole in there, but they did have a seat open at the end of the poker table there. Maybe Michael Cole slides in there, a lot of things. You see Triple H, Paul Heyman behind Brock Lesnar right there.
- [107:11]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Ah.
- [107:13]
Pat McAfee
What's going on there?
- [107:14]
Foxy
If it's anyone's game and the seats open, I haven't seen Max Crosby miss a game ever. But he. He missed the. He missed the second half.
- [107:21]
Pat McAfee
Oh, Matt Scrusby. Maybe because it's Vegas, you're saying? Maybe the Condor's coming out there to take over WrestleMania Vegas. We will say this as people that were at WrestleMania. Las Vegas, it worked.
- [107:33]
Foxy
It was smashing the goat.
- [107:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It is the perfect city for that type of spectacle. Obviously, I think they're taking it international after this year, which everybody was pumped up about. But The Las Vegas WrestleMania last year, delivered in a massive way, and that was sick.
- [107:48]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [107:48]
Foxy
Unbelievable.
- [107:49]
Pat McAfee
Who was that?
- [107:50]
Foxy
AI.
- [107:51]
Tone
No, no, that was them.
- [107:53]
Ravi
Why were they.
- [107:54]
Pat McAfee
The coin, maybe at the end, the chip, the poker chip, falling the way down. I don't know how many times they had to spin that.
- [107:58]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, probably quite a few. Why were they playing in, like, a cavern? In, like, a dungeon?
- [108:02]
Pat McAfee
No, it was the back of a casino.
- [108:04]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, it was.
- [108:04]
Foxy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [108:05]
Tone
It was one of those underground games we've been hearing so much.
- [108:07]
Ty Schmidt
Underground games.
- [108:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but it's not. It's wwe, brother. You know, it's not a work.
- [108:11]
Ty Schmidt
It's a cd.
- [108:12]
Tone
Underbell belly.
- [108:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah. Now, at that table, Cody, I'd be interested to see his style of poker player.
- [108:20]
Ty Schmidt
Aggressive.
- [108:21]
Foxy
Yeah, He's a nightmare to play with.
- [108:23]
Pat McAfee
Well, he's an American nightmare. Is he a poker Nightmare? I'm not 100, sure. And then he kind of panned around there. Roman Reigns. Yeah, right. Look how handsome he is. He's never gonna break.
- [108:31]
Ty Schmidt
No.
- [108:32]
Pat McAfee
And then CM Punk, he's saying that he's the closest to the table. He wants the action. Yeah.
- [108:35]
Ty Schmidt
He's watching the pot like an asshole.
- [108:38]
Pat McAfee
He might he might be a pot. Splash that guy there, though. Let's go ahead and pause. Pause that one. Yeah, right. You walk into a poker game, that thing is sitting at the table. You go ahead and not play at that game. You have no idea what's going to take place. And that's why Triple H and Paul are standing right behind him saying, is this what you want to do? And who's the open chair? Who's got the open chair? We find out. Wrestlemania Vegas.
- [109:01]
Tone
Wow.
- [109:02]
Pat McAfee
Tate's almost on sale.
- [109:03]
Tone
Brock's like a modern day loyal Brunson.
- [109:06]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if he's Texas Dolly, but I, I do respect everything you're saying. And he would play seven Triple H.
- [109:12]
Tone
And like, dude, the wise man.
- [109:15]
Pat McAfee
The wise man.
- [109:16]
Tone
Come on. What were those two announcers names who.
- [109:19]
Ty Schmidt
Did the norm check?
- [109:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, that's those guys.
- [109:26]
Foxy
So sorry.
- [109:26]
Pat McAfee
Paul, are you a card player?
- [109:28]
Bruce Arians
Oh yeah.
- [109:28]
Pat McAfee
You are a card player.
- [109:30]
Bruce Arians
Play poker a little bit.
- [109:32]
Pat McAfee
Spades?
- [109:33]
Bruce Arians
Oh, yeah.
- [109:33]
Pat McAfee
Euchre.
- [109:34]
Bruce Arians
Not as much. 500 was a big game up Pennsylvania.
- [109:38]
Pat McAfee
Like rummy?
- [109:38]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [109:39]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you play rummy. 500 rummy.
- [109:41]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [109:41]
Pat McAfee
You ever get into Tonk?
- [109:42]
Bruce Arians
Oh yeah.
- [109:43]
Pat McAfee
Tonk's good game. You play Boo Ray?
- [109:46]
Bruce Arians
Very much on the plane with the players.
- [109:49]
Pat McAfee
That's a little expensive. Cards. Cards are almost under attack here earlier in the week because, you know, the worst possible things of cards were kind of brought to full time display rigging of games, you know, marketing to people, getting big fish into a game and then taking advantage of them and then all the different cheating conspiracies that we've obviously learned this week that are possible in card games are certainly scary to think about in any card game. Cards are the greatest though. I, I hope cards last forever. I'm worried that there is a generation that doesn't play cards. And I'm worried that this potential scandal is certainly going to scare people away from. From cards. Cards are the greatest. I am a. I love brings people together too.
- [110:28]
AJ Hawk
It gives you something to do together. It's something to hang out and hang out with people that you're with. But I think it might, I think it might come back. Like everything comes back. You know, these kids are into like nostalgia, like late 90s music right now. The big baggy pants. Like kids are into older things now going more like analog, I guess. So I think cards, cards have hope.
- [110:46]
Pat McAfee
And it's tangible, you know. And Connor just said, yeah, they're playing on their phone, they're playing this. It's like another game on their phone. It's like, nah, we need.
- [110:53]
AJ Hawk
We need physical cards.
- [110:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we need. We need that to happen. But nowadays with all the technology, I don't know if you saw. Somebody sent me a video of a guy with an iPhone basically shuffling the cards over his iPhone and then the iPhone told him what number hand was going to win. I don't know that, like, two. It's like, all right, one, there's a winner. Boom, there's the winner. Boom. Turnover. Guy flops a flush. It's like, Jesus, that's a problem.
- [111:21]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, that's not good.
- [111:22]
Pat McAfee
That's. Maybe technology is going to kill. I don't want to do it. I refuse to have a moment of silence for cards because of this week.
- [111:30]
Ty Schmidt
Not yet.
- [111:30]
Pat McAfee
No way. I'm not going to do it. We need cards because that's a small.
- [111:34]
Tone
Like, that's such a small portion of card playing societies going to games like that. Like, cards are going to be fun.
- [111:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But let's just. We understand that people can't, man, cheat at any card game.
- [111:45]
Tone
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
- [111:47]
AJ Hawk
No chance. You're pointing my way if you're a.
- [111:49]
Tone
Hoffnom or if you own a pizza place in Plum or.
- [111:53]
Pat McAfee
No, no, no, no, no, no. Those are outstanding. Those are outstanding people. Those people.
- [111:59]
Tone
Super Italian name.
- [112:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, there was a lot of Italian. That's, you know, Cash Patel. I don't know how deep he's diving in these. Poker is my first reaction. Hey, let's not be looking too far deep into these. I know.
- [112:09]
Ty Schmidt
Don't.
- [112:09]
Pat McAfee
I don't know what was just an Italian game or. Sure, you guys are throwing him off your. I don't know which ones. I don't know which ones are which here, but I do know there was a chance I was potentially all. All of it.
- [112:22]
Ty Schmidt
Please.
- [112:23]
Pat McAfee
Thank you. And please do not kill me as I'm way out of here. I owe a lot to cards. A lot to cards. I hope we don't lose it. I hope I don't lose it. What else is coming from. From this, you know, because Cash said that Stephen A. Smith was the dumbest person of all time.
- [112:39]
Ty Schmidt
He did.
- [112:40]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
- [112:41]
Pat McAfee
He. He came out and said that because Stephen A. Said, this feels like a targeted attack at the NBA. And then Stephen A. Said, well, it feels like probably the WNBA would be next. And then Cash said, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my entire life. Is that because Cash knows?
- [112:56]
Ty Schmidt
I would imagine. Like I said, I think this is kind of a slam dunk. I don't Know how much more we'll see. But I, I, I think there are several more names.
- [113:03]
Pat McAfee
We're all very worried. Right. We're all very worried about, like, what else is potential? Like, it was this tip of iceberg. Yeah. That is as kind of what we're thinking.
- [113:11]
Foxy
Yeah. It happened.
- [113:12]
Pat McAfee
Scared of not. Not thinking.
- [113:13]
Foxy
Scared of that. Scared of it happened a day after the NBA started. So for me, all eyes turned to a day after college basketball starts.
- [113:21]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. There's a chance. Yeah. Especially if Cash wants to do a perp walk to. Yeah. Go get him at the hotel. Yeah. Call the cameras. Let's get mad. Make that happen tonight. Speaking of cameras, we got frozen frenzy.
- [113:33]
Foxy
Wow.
- [113:34]
Pat McAfee
Sixteen matchups, one night. Hockey's happening all over the place. Don't look now. Pittsburgh Penguins might win the Stanley Cup. Nick, quickly, what team should we be watching for this evening? What games are really going to lead.
- [113:44]
Ty Schmidt
The way here on espn? Maine, you're going to have the Pittsburgh.
- [113:47]
Tone
Penguins at Philadelphia Flyers. Penguins are hot right now. Second best team in the NHL.
- [113:51]
Pat McAfee
And then you're going to have the.
- [113:53]
Ty Schmidt
Washington Capitals, Alex ovechkin sitting at 899.
- [113:55]
Pat McAfee
Career goals, looking for number nine, home 100 against Texas hockey, the Dallas Star and World Series tonight. Shohei Otani starting at pitcher. And we'll be back tomorrow. And then Halloween's Friday. AJ have you figured it out what you're gonna be yet?
- [114:08]
AJ Hawk
Not just yet. Still working.
- [114:10]
Pat McAfee
We'll continue digitally with coach BA who we freaking love. He's got his All BA team. Actually, we're gonna debut here in a matter of moments. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. We'll see you tomorrow.
- [114:22]
Ty Schmidt
Tomorrow.
- [114:23]
Pat McAfee
Let's enjoy sports, shall we? Goodbye. Really felt good about that. Felt casual. Let's enjoy sports, I said. Did you hear that?
- [114:31]
Bruce Arians
Beautiful.
- [114:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Thank you, coach. Thank you, coach. And I didn't step on in here. Yeah, you had a double cop, dude.
- [114:37]
Foxy
Awesome.
- [114:38]
Bruce Arians
Was saving that.
- [114:39]
Pat McAfee
You were saving that.
- [114:40]
Ty Schmidt
Almost my pants.
- [114:44]
Pat McAfee
Let's get to a break. On the other side. We got BA's all BA team middle of the season here. Yes, we got.
- [114:50]
AJ Hawk
Are we middle of the season already Close.
- [114:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [114:52]
Bruce Arians
Crazy big nine, baby.
- [114:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, man, look at that.
- [114:56]
Ravi
Nice.
- [114:57]
AJ Hawk
Nice.
- [114:59]
Pat McAfee
Is this what you want? That's what you're getting.
- [115:03]
AJ Hawk
You get built.
- [115:03]
Foxy
That's a cool.
- [115:04]
AJ Hawk
Like, we could build a trophy that BA team like that looks like that. Give these guys trophies or medals.
- [115:09]
Pat McAfee
Now that we know. See, we know how many people are on this team. So we know to how what you just tried to sign us up for? I. I don't know.
- [115:17]
AJ Hawk
End of season, maybe? End of season, you know, maybe one. You get one trophy end of season.
- [115:21]
Pat McAfee
For all of them. There's a lot of guys.
- [115:23]
AJ Hawk
We'll go on Amazon. I'll try to build it.
- [115:26]
Foxy
Yeah.
- [115:26]
Pat McAfee
All right. We'll be back in about five minutes or so. You're going to want to see this. I mean, we're giving out awards, we're giving out game balls. I mean, we got a lot of. With BA on the other side. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. Take five. You ever show up late to the game and your friends already saved your seat, your drink, even a plate that's looking out, that's having your back. And that's exactly what AT&T does with the ATT guarantee. They know staying connected matters.
- [115:55]
Bruce Arians
That's why AT&T has connectivity you depend on. Guaranteed.
- [116:00]
Pat McAfee
Or they'll proactively make it right. Just like that friend who takes care of things before you even ask.
- [116:05]
Bruce Arians
AT&T connecting changes everything.
- [116:08]
Pat McAfee
Terms and conditions apply. Visit att.comguarantee for details. This is Kevin Clark for Manscaped.
- [116:15]
Ty Schmidt
Fellas, it's time to step up your grooming game.
- [116:19]
Ravi
All right?
- [116:20]
Pat McAfee
I do this show three times a week.
- [116:22]
Ravi
Every single time, I have to take grooming very, very seriously.
- [116:27]
Pat McAfee
Look back in the archives, guys.
- [116:29]
Ravi
Look back and see the awful mustache I was trying to trust brought out last spring.
- [116:36]
Ty Schmidt
I hate it. The other day, I recirculated an interview with Drake May. I wanted to CGI it. I wanted to CGI the mustache out.
- [116:43]
Pat McAfee
I wanted to AI it.
- [116:45]
Ravi
I couldn't. The mustache was there. And now I've got a nice little stubble, perfect length. Gonna have this for the rest of my life.
- [116:53]
Ty Schmidt
Okay?
- [116:54]
Pat McAfee
Very, very, very important. It's a part of confidence. It's a part of looking good.
- [116:59]
Ravi
It's a part of being on of Top TV.
- [117:01]
Pat McAfee
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- [117:04]
Ty Schmidt
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Ravi
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- [117:33]
Pat McAfee
Hello, beautiful people, and welcome back to our humble about the Thunderdome on this BA Day. October 28, 2025. Hour three of the program begins now. Football is God. He stuck it. Free play. I think I got off. I. I think I got off. Got it off. Yeah. With some of these refs. That's AJ Hawk, the toxic tables here at Boston, Connor and at Tai Schmidt. Love the sweater. Is that because the frozen frenzy tonight?
- [118:03]
Foxy
Yeah, I knew that was happening. That's why I wore my Bruins hat and my US USA Hockey sweatshirt. I. I knew the frozen frenzy was coming tonight. I'm just so jacked up about it.
- [118:13]
Pat McAfee
I remember this morning, you were like, man, last night, I knew that this was happening. And I was like, you know what? Let's celebrate the hell out of Hawk.
- [118:18]
Foxy
Yeah, I told you, like. Yeah, I fell asleep at the halftime of the NFL game. Didn't watch a look at the MLB game because I'm so excited for the frozen frenzy tonight.
- [118:26]
Pat McAfee
Lot of MLB game. Yeah, it was a lot of MLB game, aj. I know you watched that game. Whenever that thing finally ends 2:45 Eastern Time and Freddy Freeman hits a ding dong to deep center there, what is your immediate thought? Like, wow, I'm gratified with staying up for this. Is that what you. You said, aj?
- [118:46]
AJ Hawk
I'm not going to lie. I did not see the 18th inning, but I did walk out. I checked in on it and I saw it in the 14th inning and that was the latest I did see. I did not make it to the 18th inner. But what a game. Hey, I'm. I'm actually very excited to watch Shohei pitch tonight.
- [118:59]
Pat McAfee
Yes. Very excited for this evening's ML. Maybe Shohei pitches 20 innings tonight. That would be crazy.
- [119:07]
Ty Schmidt
There's ever a time to do it, it's tonight.
- [119:09]
AJ Hawk
What's his pitch count, Ty? What's the pitch count for him?
- [119:11]
Pat McAfee
It's World Series, bro.
- [119:13]
Ty Schmidt
They'll let him throw 100, maybe more, if he's really rolling.
- [119:16]
Pat McAfee
How many innings is that? 6, 7?
- [119:18]
Ty Schmidt
It depends if he's striking out a lot of guys. Probably.
- [119:21]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [119:21]
Ty Schmidt
Like five.
- [119:22]
AJ Hawk
How many was Yamamoto his last complete game?
- [119:25]
Ty Schmidt
I don't know. Over. Over a hundred.
- [119:27]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
- [119:27]
Pat McAfee
Hey, do you know about Shohei's kind of tool belt pitch mix?
- [119:32]
AJ Hawk
What do you mean, his pitch mix?
- [119:35]
Pat McAfee
You know. You know when he has a penny sesh, what he's able to do with the ball? Do you. Do you know what he's, you know, capable of this evening in the World Series?
- [119:44]
AJ Hawk
I do not, actually. I'm hoping one of you can explain it to me.
- [119:46]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So you know, whenever you're. You're doing a bullpen session, a penny sesh, as. As you will, you know, stuff. And he's able to take that stuff from the penny sesh right to the big leagues. Okay. He's able to take it to the mound. He's able to take it to the bump.
- [120:01]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, you can say the bump into the bump.
- [120:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, the bump. He's able to get it up to the rubber. Yeah, he's able to get up there and do his stuff. 36 inches of vertical differences. Okay. He's got a four seamer 18 inches north. Got a curveball 18 inches south. Oh, yeah, that's 36 angle. Oh. From the high slot, able to hit, put a sinker down on you. Okay. Not a lot of people are able to do that. Speaking of east, west, you know, we're talking horizontal movement, 30 inches difference, you know. Yeah, he's able to make it go. So we're talking about north, south, east, west, all over the place. So batters have no idea what's going on. And then when you look at him up there, you're like, holy, this is an icon living, this guy. So he's got that presence like he's Randy Johnson up there. Okay. Is everybody scared to death? Holy. I'm about to be the next show bait on show Hay's show reel. And then you gotta deal with 36 inches north and south, 30 inches the other way, and what's coming. Who knows? Maybe the splinter's about to drop out for the sky. It's a showtime. That's tonight. Yeah. Let's go baseball. Swinging a hot bat.
- [121:07]
Ty Schmidt
They are. They are.
- [121:08]
Pat McAfee
And they're throwing a great ball.
- [121:09]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah. It's been unbelievable. I mean, like, it really was last night.
- [121:12]
Pat McAfee
Thank God the Yankees aren't in this. Right. And that kind of the. The thought that people were saying, I.
- [121:17]
Foxy
Mean, personally, I. I kind of like the Blue Jays, you know, they're hard.
- [121:22]
Pat McAfee
Not the Love 58 guy, Vlad.
- [121:24]
Foxy
He's real cool.
- [121:25]
AJ Hawk
That guy's amazing.
- [121:26]
Foxy
Yeah.
- [121:26]
Pat McAfee
How about the 58 guy just bopping around me watching Alejandro Kirk. Me watching him run bases. I'm like, this guy. No way this is supposed to happen.
- [121:34]
Ty Schmidt
Type his name into the gift generator on X. There's some good gifts of him rounding third base, you know, hustling out a double, you know, trying to score from second. There's some good gifts.
- [121:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but Dabadoo type stuff?
- [121:44]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah, big time.
- [121:45]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. I love everything about he now.
- [121:48]
Tone
The most home runs in a postseason with Five tied with big dumper from also this postseason.
- [121:54]
Pat McAfee
Wow. It seems like as a catcher.
- [121:55]
Ty Schmidt
Did I say. No, he didn't. But that's. Yeah. Baseball is doing well. Like you said. The.
- [122:00]
Pat McAfee
The.
- [122:00]
Ty Schmidt
The stars are performing, which is the. The big deal. You know. You got something for wobble body.
- [122:06]
AJ Hawk
What happened?
- [122:07]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Okay.
- [122:08]
Foxy
There it is.
- [122:11]
Ty Schmidt
I wanted to post that last night after he hit his homer. But I said, you know what? I think they're making fun of this guy with this thing. So I'm not gonna put.
- [122:19]
Pat McAfee
And I don't like it.
- [122:20]
Ty Schmidt
Me neither.
- [122:20]
AJ Hawk
Look at that stride.
- [122:21]
Pat McAfee
Bruce put on this screen right here and just put on repeat. It was running 13 times down here.
- [122:26]
Ty Schmidt
I get it.
- [122:27]
Pat McAfee
Forced me to look at it. My eyes force.
- [122:29]
AJ Hawk
It's clinic tape. What's wrong with it?
- [122:31]
Pat McAfee
Dropped into my ear. He's on. He's on your screen right now. He's on his. Look down there and guess what's happening.
- [122:35]
Ty Schmidt
This.
- [122:36]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Yeah.
- [122:36]
Tone
I don't know if this motoring arm swing leg drive.
- [122:39]
Foxy
Look at the foot on the corner of the bag.
- [122:41]
Pat McAfee
Perfect on a gas. Almost this guy coming around the bed. Yeah. They're not. Not making fun of him. Thanks.
- [122:47]
Ty Schmidt
Die. I think they're making fun.
- [122:48]
AJ Hawk
It's a stand up park home run.
- [122:50]
Ty Schmidt
I was gonna say. I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing on that player relay gunned him down by about 100ft at home plate.
- [122:56]
Pat McAfee
That's the Yankees. It's coming from Jazz World.
- [122:58]
Ty Schmidt
Okay, so never mind. They definitely didn't throw him out at home if it was a good. Never mind.
- [123:02]
Pat McAfee
Who's your left fielder?
- [123:03]
Ty Schmidt
Left fielder. On that given day. I have no idea when that's from. Could have been Cody Bellinger. Could have been Jason Dominguez.
- [123:10]
Pat McAfee
You don't think he gets him?
- [123:12]
Ty Schmidt
No.
- [123:12]
Foxy
Without a doubt.
- [123:13]
Ty Schmidt
Yankees don't do that kind of stuff.
- [123:14]
AJ Hawk
Green light all day for him.
- [123:15]
Pat McAfee
Well, especially against Kurt dude.
- [123:16]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
- [123:18]
Pat McAfee
He's double shifting.
- [123:20]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [123:21]
Pat McAfee
Double clutching coming off of that thing.
- [123:22]
Ty Schmidt
Doesn't need a light.
- [123:23]
Tone
He wasn't granny shifting, I can tell you that.
- [123:25]
Bruce Arians
Good thing you can't run over to catcher anymore.
- [123:30]
AJ Hawk
Low man wins.
- [123:31]
Pat McAfee
I mean, he's coming in exploding. Oh, yeah. Did you see Nebo talking to his kid? Did you see this?
- [123:38]
Tone
Yes, James Harrison.
- [123:39]
Pat McAfee
Yes, James Harrison talking to his boy, who I've seen on the Internet. Not recently. I guess within the last couple years. He's huge. He is a absolute monster. His kid and Debo is talking to him. And you see Deebo actually saying, huh, huh. Right here. Right Here, this is what you. He's really telling him they need to put his forehead through the guy's chin is what's happening. And there's like a cell phone camera on it. And the commentary was like, imagine getting advice from Debo as a high schooler or something. And then somebody commented like that that's his son. So like imagine being his dad. Right. As well. But then I was reading his lips. I'm like, it feels like he's telling him to explode through Adam's apple. Which. That's football, baby.
- [124:20]
Foxy
Yeah, he's a strap.
- [124:20]
Tone
He's a strapping young lad.
- [124:21]
Pat McAfee
So yeah, he's study. Remember they used to do push ups? Oh yeah, that house.
- [124:26]
Tone
Steve O's been on fire lately too.
- [124:27]
Pat McAfee
What do you mean?
- [124:28]
Tone
He's saying a lot of good stuff.
- [124:30]
Pat McAfee
He also came out. Didn't he come out?
- [124:31]
Tone
Yes, he did. And then he was very disturbing.
- [124:33]
Pat McAfee
Discussed it after. Why didn't he play?
- [124:35]
Ty Schmidt
I kidding. Good question.
- [124:37]
Pat McAfee
And that's what everybody in Pittsburgh's saying. Yeah, we got Debo coming out of the tunnel, kind of getting everybody excited. Let's. Yeah, let's have him just get the pads on. Go ahead and do that.
- [124:46]
Tone
Yeah, he knows what's about.
- [124:48]
Pat McAfee
What's it about?
- [124:49]
Tone
It's about the name on your back.
- [124:51]
Pat McAfee
You guys have a name on. I didn't see that jersey.
- [124:53]
Tone
And the name on your front.
- [124:54]
AJ Hawk
The Steelers in the back.
- [124:55]
Tone
No.
- [124:56]
Ty Schmidt
And he said it's about both.
- [124:58]
Pat McAfee
Did he say these uniforms are shitty? Did you see those uniform? Now you're wearing Virginia Tech uniforms and colors.
- [125:05]
Bruce Arians
Which beautiful thing.
- [125:08]
Foxy
It's Halloween, so maybe it is only.
- [125:11]
Bruce Arians
Team that has them.
- [125:12]
Pat McAfee
And some would say maybe a reason. Yeah, that's cuz nobody could keep up.
- [125:17]
Bruce Arians
With Virginia Tech if God wasn't a hokey. Why the leaves turn orange maroon right now.
- [125:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you're right.
- [125:21]
Foxy
That's great.
- [125:22]
Pat McAfee
Football season. That's a good call. Hey, I'll tell you what. That's a good sell. That's a good sell. I don't know what the next coach is or who the next coach is. Needs to use that in recruiting, obviously. AJ we talked about that. I don't think I heard what you had to say. The coaching, who's hiring. Who are all these coaches?
- [125:42]
AJ Hawk
That's what I'm trying to figure out. Like there's gonna be a lot of people I would assume hired that we don't really know who they are. And they're gonna have to prove that they. You're a great play caller somewhere offense. I would Assume more offensive guys get hired. But yeah. I don't know, though. Like, who.
- [125:54]
Ty Schmidt
Who.
- [125:55]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, who. Like, who can we go after? I guess who can we. Who of these guys is going to get recycled to another big job? I guess is another question.
- [126:01]
Pat McAfee
Coach Heartline, right. Probably going to be a hot name in this. If we had to guess, with what he's done in Ohio State. Our buckle. Our buckle. Certainly with what he was able to.
- [126:09]
AJ Hawk
Accomplish with Colin, who's a North Texas coach. North Texas coach is scoring a ton of points. Putting. Putting up numbers.
- [126:14]
Bruce Arians
I heard 600 yards the other day.
- [126:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, what was it? What's his name?
- [126:18]
Tone
Colin Klein is the O.C. for A&M. WHO. I was saying before A.J. said North Texas had North Texas head coach. Who.
- [126:24]
Foxy
I don't.
- [126:24]
Pat McAfee
Eric Morris is North Texas head coach. I thought we were going to go do game day there.
- [126:29]
Tone
North Texas.
- [126:29]
Pat McAfee
I think they got Navy maybe because Navy's undefeated.
- [126:33]
Tone
North Texas has one loss for the aac.
- [126:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I was looking. You know, I don't make that decision. I'm not a part of the.
- [126:40]
Tone
That is not tough decision this week.
- [126:42]
Pat McAfee
That is not something I'm part of. I just go where I'm told. Literally the. The thought of heading to North Texas. Are they playing Navy this weekend? We look that up, yes. Navy, North Texas. I got pretty fired up, but I'm like, where the fuck is North Texas? I have no Denton. I didn't.
- [127:00]
Ty Schmidt
Texas.
- [127:01]
AJ Hawk
Texas. I did multiple games there when Graham Harrell was the offensive coordinator. I worked multiple games. It's great spot.
- [127:06]
Pat McAfee
I could not wait to get. Just because every town I've been to in Texas is like awesome and hilarious in its own way because it's Texas, you know, so it was like going to Denton, Texas would have been awesome. I mean, the. I would have had a full. I mean, I was so excited. Then Navy get an opportunity to go in there. It was like, all right, North Texas is a real thing. But to your point, Tone, or to whoever just said it, aj, aj I think it's like, you do good, you're going to get. Yeah, they're going to try to get him.
- [127:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [127:32]
Foxy
Yeah. Who do you think goes maybe down? Do you think Chip Kelly goes back? Do you think Matt Patricia might, you know, get a head coach and offer. Like, do you think there's any of those that might go from pros back down to college?
- [127:43]
Pat McAfee
Do. Have you ever met a guy that has been a head coach, then goes to being a coordinator? Life very good as coordinator, gets offered a head coaching role and Said no to that again once. Getting a chance to do it again. Feels like everybody gives into the temptation of being a head coach again.
- [127:58]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, I mean, especially now with the money. It is. I mean, it's crazy. And. But the coordinators are making 3 million, 2 million. It's crazy.
- [128:05]
Pat McAfee
So Dana Holgerson at Nebraska right now with Matt Rule. He has said that he's very much enjoying being a coordinator as opposed to being a head coach. Was head coach at West Virginia, then he was at Houston. Now he's offense coordinator with Raiola and Nebraska. Now they obviously lose again. And, you know, I don't think they have playoff hopes this particular year. I think that's going to be tough, but they're still going to grow. His name might come up in conversation, but he has openly said, like, I'm really enjoying being a coordinator. Feels like that happens. Happens with coaches. Dan Quinn was doing it with Dallas. Yeah, we're talking about him going to Dallas. It's like maybe Dan Quinn just says, I'm enjoying being a coordinator. Is it always just inevitably the amount of money that the head coach makes versus everybody else? And then to your point about coordinators nowadays, is that changing how people could potentially do it?
- [128:49]
Bruce Arians
I think it is, but I think the pride factor is still there, too. Dan Quinn did a hell of a job in Atlanta. Not let go. Did a good job in. In Dallas. I'm gonna prove you guys wrong.
- [128:59]
Pat McAfee
Got it?
- [129:00]
Foxy
Yeah, I got you guys wrong.
- [129:01]
Bruce Arians
I got this.
- [129:01]
Foxy
A guy like Josh McDaniels, though, that went, you know, coordinator, head coach didn't work. Coordinator, coordinator, head coach didn't work. Now it seems like he might be on his. All right, I'm a coordinator. Whereas, like a Cliff Kingsberry, he went, you know, oc, head coach worked. But, you know, it worked out how it worked out in Arizona. Maybe there's other things you're seeing with Jacoti percent now and then. You know, now he's an awesome oc. Does he go back just because he's only done it once?
- [129:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, because he probably learned from his first round, too. Yeah, I assume as well. But allegedly, last off season, he didn't want to. Allegedly.
- [129:35]
AJ Hawk
He was like, no, I mean, timing, you know, that's a good spot where he's in, like, if you're happy where you are, why not wait for the great opportunity that you want?
- [129:41]
Pat McAfee
Ben Johnson, right?
- [129:42]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [129:42]
Pat McAfee
Was it three hiring cycles? Basically, he was like, nah, nah.
- [129:46]
AJ Hawk
He had faith, he had confidence in himself. He bet on himself, you know, because we see how quickly these Guys fall out of the interview cycle. If you're a hot commodity all of a sudden, six months later, you might not be.
- [129:56]
Pat McAfee
Now on that note about being a hot commodity, not being cold. Detroit Lions lost both of their coordinators last year from last year to become head coaches. And we actually have BA Game ball. BA why don't we start with the afc? Your first game ball coming out of week eight of the NFL season.
- [130:15]
Bruce Arians
My first one is Aaron Glenn. Congratulations to your first win. We've been close a couple of times and was 23 to 7 in the fourth quarter. They scored the Bengals and ruined my prediction that the Bengals would be in first place this week.
- [130:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you were obviously hot on the Bengals and obviously we all appreciate Joe Flacco. That game was outrageous to watch. And then the jets come back. Obviously Bree hall throws that thing to Mason Taylor. I believe he mosses in the back, they get a win. Especially apropos with Nick Mangold and entire storyline there about the jets and how all the jets nation and football society was feeling on that particular day. Aaron Glenn gets his first win. Always remember it. Is that one of those things like you always talk about? You always remember your first, but for real, he will actually.
- [130:54]
Bruce Arians
Right. He'll always remember that one. And I'm sure the guys gave him the game ball in the locker room. And you paint that one and you put it in a very special place.
- [131:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because it's been not easy. Okay. It is not easy to get to this point, but to go back to Detroit. Foxy, what were you, you guys. The first year that Dane Campbell was your head coach? We started out 0 and 10 and year one ended 3, 13 and 1. And then in year two, they started out 1 and 6 and everyone wanted Dan Campbell out of there. It was a disaster to start that thing. And then after that 1 and 6 start, he got us to 9 and 8, almost made the playoffs, and then it's been history ever since. And they beat the Green Bay Packers. The last game of the year to knock the Green Bay packers out of the playoffs in that particular year. And then since then, it's been number one seed Detroit Lions. That was Aaron's last game as a Packer. Yeah, but that first year, you guys were 0 and 10. He cried right after the first win. Oh, yeah, he cried after the first win. And I remember a lot of us going, can't be crying. You just won one game. And then what he was saying through his tears where like, these guys, man, are working hard, everything's good. And then we Just can't win. And then we finally get rewarded basically is how he feels. I wonder if Aaron Glenn feels that way as well. I wonder if that's kind of what think so.
- [132:01]
Bruce Arians
Because they real close a couple weeks, you know, and then you finally get over the hump. Great halfback pass call Breeze hall pulls it down, throws it back, touchdown. They win the game. So great way to win.
- [132:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Good for Aaron Glenn getting a dub.
- [132:14]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [132:14]
Pat McAfee
Hey, he gets a BA game ball.
- [132:16]
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
- [132:17]
Pat McAfee
And for the nfc, the BA game bowler of the week goes to Anthony Nelson. Congratulations, Tony.
- [132:26]
Bruce Arians
Four tackles, two sacks, a four stack fumble to pick six. Fourth player in NFL history to ever have that stat line.
- [132:32]
Pat McAfee
Wow, A.J. i watched your. I watched your face as this name was unveiled. Same reaction as all of us. Don't think we all fully understood exactly who Tony Nelson was. But then BA starts reading off the stats and he goes, if I was reading these stats and not say anybody's name, what would you say? You'd say game ball, right? Yeah. This guy went absolutely ham against this New Orleans Saints team and his stats. That line to BA's point has only happened a few times in the history.
- [132:59]
Foxy
Yeah, and it was start to finish because that force fumble came on the first drive for the Saints. Bruce, is this the greatest backup come into game performance ever as well or.
- [133:12]
Bruce Arians
Anytime you put in the history of next to your name, it's special. And this is only the fourth player in the history of the NFL to ever do this. And cats off to Nelly. Man, he's been a great, good player. But Hassan Reddit goes down. Time for somebody to step up big in a big division game. Nelly did it.
- [133:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, shout out to Nelly, dude.
- [133:31]
Foxy
He was prepared.
- [133:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he was. He was ready. We knew he was where he go to school.
- [133:34]
Ty Schmidt
Certainly did. He's from Walkie Iowa and he is one of Kirk's dogs. He had a lot of success with the Hawks. So yeah, you're kind of just biding your time, you know. You know, and when I see that happen, it's just like, oh, here he goes again.
- [133:45]
Pat McAfee
I heard Luca's getting some valuable minutes. Speaking of Hawkeyes, just buying their time.
- [133:49]
Ty Schmidt
He is, he is. And it's about damn time. You know, unfortunately with, you know, it's going to happen with Garza sometime. His first game of the season, he gets a headbutt about four seconds in, knocks one of his teeth out. And he also got a concussion. He's bloodied up pretty good, you know, because that's what Garza does. He's a junkyard dog. He plays like a menace. He out he had to miss a couple games.
- [134:13]
Pat McAfee
I did not know this happened. I just saw. I just saw that he was playing for the Boston Cell Celtics and I was so happy for Ty especially sitting next to Connor here in this entire relationship and how the talks table could celebrate Luca Garza. Ty's been calling for Luca Garza to get some minutes on a good team for five, six years now. Maybe seven, 10 years.
- [134:33]
Foxy
Yeah, well you know just to just go over that real quick. There's a reason he's getting minutes for the Boston Celtics because they're 1 and 3. But yeah, stuff like this is why Boston will still be Boston even when they are absolute shite.
- [134:47]
Pat McAfee
You got stink.
- [134:48]
Foxy
Look it's. It's a tough year right now. We're back to the drawing board. Got a win last night because Zion's already missing games but you know that doesn't matter. We are 1 and 3.
- [134:57]
Pat McAfee
Is that the Pelicans doing that or is that Zion?
- [134:59]
Foxy
It was dnp, groin, back, insert, whatever bullshit you want but he didn't play. But no matter what, Derek White's still sticking his nose in there. We got other guys that are going out playing their ass off. One guy, Tony Millet, I think it was his first game he's ever started. I don't know what say to but it was the first game he's ever started. He got a steal, dunks a basketball, hangs on the rim, hanging out, hanging out, hanging out. Falls on his back pretty bad. But he pops up, gets back on defense. They asked Joe Missoula about it after the game. Joe Missoula said, well he better get back and get on defense because if he gets hurt there, he's never playing for me again. It was awesome. Missoula still got the boys, you know, rowing the boat, ski Uma if you will, whatever the fuck it is. But there is a chance. There's a chance here if we, if we can just hang on for dear life. The east is wide open. It's really just the New York Knicks.
- [135:50]
Pat McAfee
I don't think so, brother. Sky Uma, have you heard about Mac McClung? Pacers? We got Fury. TJ McConnell M. Yeah, we got a milk check coming to every town. Come watch Fun.
- [136:05]
AJ Hawk
Put them all, put them in together.
- [136:07]
Foxy
They don't have a choice.
- [136:08]
Pat McAfee
Absolutely. The Indiana Pacers signing guard Mack McClung do a multi year contract. Greg Lawrence of Washman tells espn. And with Mack Mung and OB toppin on the same floor, there's a chance that they actually jump up in high five above the rim. And then Duncan.
- [136:25]
Ty Schmidt
Both.
- [136:26]
Foxy
Duncan.
- [136:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I mean, we're gonna be good. What are the Pacers. Pacers are good.
- [136:29]
Foxy
No, they're shite as well. The team. The. The.
- [136:32]
Pat McAfee
I don't believe that Carla is the coach. Well, you can't be shite.
- [136:35]
Foxy
Yeah, they're real bad.
- [136:36]
Pat McAfee
We just signed Matt Mac McClung.
- [136:37]
Foxy
Exactly. He hasn't played a long time.
- [136:41]
Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah.
- [136:42]
Foxy
It's going to be. It's going to be a long road. It doesn't matter though.
- [136:45]
Pat McAfee
Pacers are.
- [136:46]
Ty Schmidt
Oh and three.
- [136:47]
Pat McAfee
We had to have got one somewhere.
- [136:50]
Foxy
Not yet. Maybe tonight. The spurs are the story of the. Of the NBA for, for the time being.
- [136:55]
Pat McAfee
Wemby's outrageous.
- [136:56]
Foxy
Yeah, it's. It's ridiculous. Stephen Castle, Stefan Castle. I never know.
- [137:01]
Ty Schmidt
He.
- [137:01]
Foxy
He's a superstar. He's rookie of the year now. He's a dog. In their second overall pick, Dylan Harper had 20 points last night and he plays with a T shirt under his jersey and he looks really cool. So look out for the Spurs. We got a new spurs dynasty. Homegrown players growing.
- [137:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Cause Wemby's a real deal.
- [137:18]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [137:18]
Foxy
And all three of them drafted like they're, they're going to be a. Actually they got Dear and Fox. We mentioned all pro player. Really good. They need to ship him out of town to get bench players because they don't need anybody else. Wemby, if he stays healthy, he'll be otani.
- [137:32]
Bruce Arians
Wemby was shooting logo threes.
- [137:34]
Pat McAfee
Wasn't he just pulling up?
- [137:35]
Bruce Arians
Unbeliev.
- [137:35]
Ty Schmidt
He had a.
- [137:36]
Foxy
He had a 360 layup last night.
- [137:39]
Ty Schmidt
He.
- [137:39]
Foxy
He decided not to dunk it and he laid it in.
- [137:41]
Pat McAfee
It's hard for me around the rim because I always like look at his feet and it's like he's like debone and u ball, you know, like he's, he doesn't have to jump that high. His arms are there. So for me it's hard to be as impressed with everything. Now granted, he's that tall, able to do all of those things. That is the impressive feat in and of itself when he's swatting everything and then he's grabbing it and taking it down the court, the length of the court, shaking people. Okay, he's seven foot. What. What is seven?
- [138:09]
Foxy
Seven is what? There's. He's listed seven four, seven five. But Bobon said he's looking up at him and he's 7 5.
- [138:15]
Pat McAfee
So think about how high that right Dribbling is like here. Still growing. Yeah, Dribbling is like this high. Yeah.
- [138:21]
Foxy
He's 21.
- [138:21]
Pat McAfee
Should be easy to steal because the amount of.
- [138:25]
AJ Hawk
In theory. Yes.
- [138:26]
Pat McAfee
Instead, he's like actually wiggling in, like shaking back. It's like. That's the.
- [138:32]
Bruce Arians
That.
- [138:32]
Tone
I also need you to know that they have another seven footer. His name is Luke Cornett and they're calling him French Vanilla together.
- [138:38]
Bruce Arians
Oh, yeah.
- [138:38]
Tone
So you just need to know that nickname.
- [138:40]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Like this shit. That. That's how.
- [138:42]
Ty Schmidt
That.
- [138:42]
Pat McAfee
That's 77. That's not supposed to happen, you know. And then there's times where he'll do a step back logo three after doing this. And it's like. So he's Steph Curry too. I didn't know you're allowed to do that. I didn't know you were allowed to be Steph. Steph Curry as well. Well, through this entire thing.
- [138:56]
Foxy
And NBA Central reporter. This is not central. It's Central because I double checked because I thought it was bullshit. Allegedly this offseason, he was real. Chet Holger won an NBA championship and he used that as motivation essentially all off season.
- [139:10]
Ty Schmidt
That.
- [139:10]
Foxy
That is a.
- [139:10]
Pat McAfee
That's why he wanted amongst. I need to get this anger I saw. Can you hit me with the thing? Speaking of basketball, Rushmore on X. This week's episode is called Power Forwards. Obviously, Shaq, Reggie, Ben and Ahri debate the best four power forwards in the history of hoops. What an interesting conversation. We talked about the running back becoming the new tight end. The power forward is basically the tight end of the NBA. In listening to Shaq and Reggie discuss who is allowed to be judged as a power forward versus somebody who's just a forward, I mean, it was great debate. Reggie Miller thinks about leaving the middle of the conversation. There's some controversy in the middle of this week's episode. Good episode. Foxy. The boys cut together a great one. And Ari and Ben certainly hosted a great conversation. Yeah, exactly. A lot of good discourse about what a power forward is. Like the definition and all of that. Like Shaq mentions. Spoiler alert. He says, Dirk Nowitzki, not a power forward. I disagree with him. But it's Shaq. He's one of the greatest of all time. And then I will say the very end of the episode, there's definitely a twist that I didn't expect at all. That goes on their greatest route. Mount Rushmores. Yeah. This show is very, very good. Ari and Ben have put together a quite a lineup. And Shaq and Reggie, I Think they're a little loose in this. It's the same sit down as they had for dunkers. Great conversation in basketball. Don't look now with Wemby being the future and the young stars and if Zion can stay healthy, maybe basketball is only growing into the best place you could possibly be with all the different. Different deals it has. Or on the flip side, we learn more about what we learned earlier in the week and everything goes to.
- [140:50]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah, that's right.
- [140:51]
Pat McAfee
Scared of that. Don't love that. Certainly possible. But I hold on, hope that the NBA still a great association. They're in a great spot right now with their young stars and that episode of power forwards is great. Nice trip down memory lane.
- [141:04]
Foxy
And that's why the spurs are so awesome because all their stars are 21 or under and it's going to be real hard to for any of that bullshit with them.
- [141:12]
Pat McAfee
Well, on that note, the Pacers are going to be okay.
- [141:15]
Tone
They're gonna turn this thing around next year.
- [141:17]
Foxy
They're going to turn this thing around next year.
- [141:19]
Tone
What if they get the first overall pick, you know, because Tyrese is out and then you just get like. It'd be really good.
- [141:24]
Pat McAfee
Well, we know that's not how that's going to go because how is that lottery. We're not getting into it. Not getting into it. Not this week. Not this.
- [141:30]
Ty Schmidt
Good point.
- [141:31]
Pat McAfee
Wow.
- [141:32]
AJ Hawk
You're right to add. You don't want to add that. Don't add fuel to the fire.
- [141:35]
Pat McAfee
Dump that. Dump that. There's no reason for us to get to that. There's no reason for us to get to. To that.
- [141:39]
AJ Hawk
Let's talk definitely random.
- [141:40]
Pat McAfee
Let's do. Let's do something celebratory. Let's do something exciting. Hell yeah. Let's do awards.
- [141:47]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [141:47]
Pat McAfee
Let's do award season here at the end of October. Let's celebrate the hell out of the great that has been played this NFL season. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for the all bat. Now Coach BA was given the opportunity to pick one AFC person and one NFC person at a multitude of positions and defense was just selected as a whole. There was also two coaches selected. Coach, why don't you go ahead and give your AFC and NFC coaches of the all BA team first.
- [142:20]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, afc Shane Steichen. The job he's doing at Indianapolis just amazing with Daniel Jones turning him around and they've got that magic in the building with Jim Mercedes with his spirit and they're doing a great job job with it in the NFC. I've got Todd Bowles 6 and 2 with plethora of injuries they needed. Nobody needs a bye week more than they do right now. So that is my two coaches at the halfway point.
- [142:42]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations, man. You will win nothing other than this round of applause right here. Okay, let's go with the kickers. AFC and nfc all BA team kickers thus far.
- [142:52]
Bruce Arians
These guys are unbelievable. They're so automatic. Brandon Aubrey, Dallas Cowboys. He's going to get a 70 to.
- [142:58]
Pat McAfee
75 yard or one of these. Agreed.
- [142:59]
Bruce Arians
Unbelievable. And Chris Boswell, who is automatic on the worst field in the NFL. I mean it's hard to kick in Cleveland, it's hard to kick in Pittsburgh. The grass is the wind. Aubrey's in a dome basically doming. But what Chris Boswell does with Pittsburgh is just absolutely automatic.
- [143:17]
Pat McAfee
Just a pure swinger down there. Chris Boswell, and he'll go for it. I mean he's swinging hard every single time. McManus misses from 57 short. He hits a 58 in the same game has feel good. This is a 61 yarder. First week to win against the New York Jets. To start this entire Aaron Rodgers era, they needed a 61 yarder. Here's him from 56.
- [143:35]
Foxy
Sorry.
- [143:36]
Pat McAfee
Not 58. The other night in terrible grass. It's just like he is always making. There was a contract conversation going into the season that's kind of simmered down. He's the guy shows up for you guys every single year.
- [143:46]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [143:46]
Tone
You can pay him literally anything you want after the season is over. He is 14 of 16 on the season. His two misses is one. The slip at the end of last game because of the field and then a block. So he would be perfect on the season if it wasn't for those.
- [143:58]
Pat McAfee
And Brandon Aubrey obviously just redefining what you're supposed to be as a kicker, especially to start your career. Murders the ball but always has a smooth swing. Never seems to be out of control and everything seems to be in range.
- [144:09]
Bruce Arians
Effortless. It's just effortless. And it's like I can't wait to see him. One second left. Try that 70 some yard.
- [144:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Especially with these balls.
- [144:18]
Bruce Arians
Oh yeah.
- [144:19]
Pat McAfee
It's a good time to be a good kicker right now. If you have a strong. This is a good time to be a kicker because of the balls. I was actually catching up with your boy Jake who used to be a kicker in the NFL. He said he was around whenever they were doing the brand new balls fresh out of the box into the game and he, he mentioned about how it's like 10 to 15. That's like 1520. I think like actual 1520 yards difference, let alone height and everything else. So the fact that they're able to use beat up balls that they're bringing into the games, I think we're going to see some special stuff Continue. Now let's go to defense. Defense is on the all B A team.
- [144:49]
Bruce Arians
AFC is Houston Texans. Man, they are lighting it up on defense. Boy. And now the offense is waking up. Watch out for the Texans second half of the season.
- [144:57]
Pat McAfee
Congrats to Houston, Texas defense and the NFC side.
- [144:59]
Bruce Arians
Seattle Seahawks. Don't play them. Seattle. That's for sure. That this front four is killing people.
- [145:04]
Pat McAfee
How do you feel about the way McDonald has kind of turned this entire team around? They. They painted over to walls. Did you hear about this?
- [145:10]
Bruce Arians
Oh, yeah.
- [145:10]
Pat McAfee
Painted over to walls. A legion of boom. We're in a whole new era. Kick Pete Carroll out. Get Geno out of here.
- [145:15]
Bruce Arians
Here.
- [145:15]
Pat McAfee
Every DK gone, locket gone. Everybody gone basically from the past. We're going to have to re envision this except for Schneider who's been there for both of them. I think I immediately was like kind of turned off by it. Like, hey, why are you painting over tradition? You're. You're a franchise, you're a team. You're not like a college. Like, hey, this is a thing. I think he wanted to re envision it. I think he wanted to do it his way and they certainly are. And the defense is outrageous up there in Seattle.
- [145:38]
Bruce Arians
Doing really good job. He's doing a fantastic job. And Sam Darnold's playing, playing lights out.
- [145:43]
Pat McAfee
Sam's so good.
- [145:44]
Ty Schmidt
He is. Yeah.
- [145:44]
Pat McAfee
He was there with the Vikings.
- [145:46]
Foxy
Yep.
- [145:47]
Pat McAfee
Danny Dimes playing so good. We'll see if they make the all B A team. Okay, let's go to the tight ends. Obviously it was national tight end day on Sunday. Who are the tight ends that have made the all bat nfc?
- [145:58]
Bruce Arians
Tucker Kraft. Big, big game Sunday night. Been lighting it up all year. Afc. This guy's a freak. Tyler Warren. Unbelievable.
- [146:07]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations, boys.
- [146:08]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [146:09]
Pat McAfee
Hey, Tucker draft special talent.
- [146:11]
Bruce Arians
Unbelievable. I mean, he's everything. This guy could be a running back if he wanted to be. It's amazing.
- [146:15]
Pat McAfee
I think so. I think he could probably be wide receiver too if he wanted to, which is perfect. Tight end, I guess. He runs so mad.
- [146:20]
Ty Schmidt
He does. And he takes their like tush push snaps as well. They haven't done it yet this year, but he was always doing that. I mean outside of M. Micah Parsons, he is their second best Player AJ.
- [146:30]
Pat McAfee
Whenever you see Tucker Craft play, what's the first thoughts as you watch? It feels like a throwback expl. Explosive freak show. When I watch.
- [146:37]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, it does some of the stuff when he's rumbling and stumbling. It's like when Gronk used to get the crowd going. When gronk would break nine or 10 tackles. Like, you would see what it does to a team like this play, especially what it does to your sideline, like. And when you're a defense watching, like the film leading up to this game, you know, your D corners, like, hey, it's going to take. It's going to take all of us to bring this guy down. Fellas, make sure you were wrapping up. And we need 3, 4, 5, 6 dudes hitting them every single play.
- [146:59]
Foxy
Yeah. Just as a Patriots fan watching, it's the first time I've watched a tight end and been like, okay, that is actually close to Gronk. Just because, you know, Gronk and Kelsey, much different players when it comes to receiving and blocking. Kelsey, great blocker now, but Kraft is the one that's like, okay, this is actually Gronk 2.0 in the NFL now.
- [147:17]
Pat McAfee
And the kip up just is. I don't think that can really go understated for how big he is.
- [147:24]
AJ Hawk
Full pads, too.
- [147:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. This and how quickly he does it, I mean, that's outrage. I don't think everybody fully, fully understands, like, the amount of athleticism and explosivity you need to have in your entire body to be able to pull that off. If everybody could do that, they would. Look how cool that looks. That is just a different athlete. And then on the AFC side, boom. You got another guy that could do that, which I think is good for tight ends. Tyler Warren, this dude, absolute monster. We saw him coming out of Penn State. He was obviously the second tight end that went in the draft. Everybody talked about that because Michigan's Loveland went. He has found a perfect home here in Indiana. Indianapolis with Shane Steichen and Danny Dimes.
- [147:59]
Bruce Arians
Definitely, man, this guy's. He's. He's. Like you said, he could be a wide receiver. You can put him back there and hand him the ball. He got her center run the push. Push.
- [148:06]
Pat McAfee
I don't think he needs a push.
- [148:07]
Bruce Arians
I think he can push him on himself. And. Yeah, outstanding. Especially for a rookie.
- [148:11]
Pat McAfee
Always open. It feels. Go ahead.
- [148:13]
Tone
I don't know if it's the hair, but he reminds me a lot of Jeremy Shockey.
- [148:16]
Pat McAfee
Oh, I like. I don't mind that at all. If he's got the dog.
- [148:19]
Foxy
Yes.
- [148:19]
Pat McAfee
Jeremy Shocky, which it seems like he does. The boys in middle the building say he's just ball. All he cares about is ball. And we've loved him coming here to Indianapolis. He's always open, AJ Always open and always bigger than everybody else around him.
- [148:34]
AJ Hawk
Always breaking three or four tackles like the first guy. Very, very rarely brings him down.
- [148:38]
Pat McAfee
Touchdowns all the time too. Except for this past week. Ain't that right, Bob? Made my touchdown parlay look like a knob.
- [148:48]
Daniel Jones
We circled back last night, hit a.
- [148:49]
Ty Schmidt
Nice home run parlay for 1200.
- [148:51]
Foxy
Wow.
- [148:52]
Pat McAfee
18 innings. That's a good one for parlay.
- [148:54]
Bruce Arians
Ready? Ready for even.
- [148:55]
Pat McAfee
Was the the winner at the end there. So a lot of people saw the Gumpy tweet that said Freddie Freeman walk off here to win. This thing's gonna be so cool. He said that in like seventh inning or whatever. And then people were circling back to that obviously in the 18th thing. It's just Gumpy was a little ahead of time. Gumpy was actually pushing for his home run parlay right there. All right, let me tell you what the world needs. We need Freddie Freeman to hit one here. Need. Need a big one. Cuz we could smash. Gumpy. First time I've seen you since Sunday not wearing Dolphins gear. Just want to let you know that I thought you were going to really run this one all the way up until Thursday with not many maybe left in this entirety. Well, Thursday I'm going full gear cuz.
- [149:30]
Daniel Jones
We got Thursday Night Football, so it's.
- [149:31]
Tone
Probably going to be that sick coat hat, you know, maybe throw the pads on.
- [149:36]
Ravi
I don't know.
- [149:36]
AJ Hawk
Football pants?
- [149:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, why not? How?
- [149:38]
AJ Hawk
Get him some dogs. Dolphins pants. Yeah.
- [149:40]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I mean we'll certainly hear that here. Gumpy, I can't wait to see you wear those. Yeah, those pants. Sambas. Absolutely. Guppy said, you know, you get victory week and they even cut it short. It's only four days. I don't even get to enjoy a full week. It only lasts until Thursday. Great. Everybody gets going to the weekend happy if they won the week before. I got a Thursday night matchup against Lamar Jackson. Is that. Is that what's going on?
- [150:07]
Tone
Welcome back. That's great.
- [150:08]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Hey, congrats. You guys won. Yeah. Right now. Right now. We don't know if we'll have this on Friday and Halloween. Okay, so the tight ends are off the board. Let's head to the wide receivers. Coach Ba, who is the all BA Team midseason.
- [150:22]
Bruce Arians
The happiest guy to see Joe Flacco, Jamar James.
- [150:24]
Pat McAfee
Unbelievable.
- [150:25]
Bruce Arians
He's got like 40 targets in three weeks and unbelievable numbers. Just lighting it up. I think he had 10 catches again this week.
- [150:33]
Foxy
Yep.
- [150:33]
Bruce Arians
And guy's amazing. He's another guy. Once he gets the ball in his hand, he is electric.
- [150:38]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So when you go all BA Team, obviously you're not just going off of record and how the team was doing. Why Jamar Chase? Because if you had a team right now and you were to to field it and you had to pick two wide receivers from this season, you would pick. Jamar Chase is one of the two that you would pick.
- [150:55]
Bruce Arians
Definitely.
- [150:56]
Pat McAfee
That is why he's on the all definitely and April.
- [150:58]
Bruce Arians
He's doing it, man. He's. He's. He's one of the stars that's showing up every single week now.
- [151:02]
Tone
Not his fault.
- [151:03]
Pat McAfee
And they know that he's going to get the ball. And he's still absolutely killing everybody. He's gotten into that Justin Jefferson range that we kind of were talking about last year.
- [151:10]
Foxy
Yeah. He's offensive Mike Miles Garrett.
- [151:12]
Pat McAfee
Bingo. Okay. Yeah. Stuck.
- [151:14]
Foxy
Yeah.
- [151:15]
Pat McAfee
But also took the check.
- [151:16]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [151:17]
Pat McAfee
And knew what was going to happen and has shown up for them. Yeah. Always with injuries. Too good for Jamar. Okay. And in the NFL, well, for a.
- [151:24]
Bruce Arians
Young guy to only have initials now. Jsn. Yeah. I mean, he's already out there. He is lighting it up. Him and Sam Darnold have a great connection going.
- [151:32]
Pat McAfee
Jackson Smith and Jigba, the NFC all BA team player. I think you should be allowed to do that. But obviously you get people like Debone that'll hang it, have it go cockeyed, and they got to stop the entire thing, do the Hoosiers movie, line it back up. I think the NFL is trying to get away from that, but if you can showcase that, you can just kind of base jump, thunk that thing and look real cool while hanging on a ref, you go ahead and do that. And that's a part of Jackson Smith and Jigba's game that we certainly like. And Jimmy Graham getting a little bit of love on a primetime game is certainly sweet as well. Coming out of Ohio State, everybody knew he was going to be a guy. AJ Yeah.
- [152:07]
AJ Hawk
I mean, they definitely expected it. And everyone in Ohio State always had great things to say. But to go out here and play like he has, I mean, I don't know if you could ever predict this.
- [152:15]
Pat McAfee
Congrats on making the all BA Team.
- [152:17]
Foxy
Hell, yeah.
- [152:17]
Ty Schmidt
Boys.
- [152:18]
Pat McAfee
Maybe let's go with the offensive line. Boys. Now, which Offensive lines made the all B A team.
- [152:23]
Bruce Arians
BA nfc, Detroit Lions. I mean, they're playing lights out, giving Jared Goff great protection. That running game is amazing. And. And I like that they play five or six of them in there sometimes.
- [152:34]
Pat McAfee
Feels like Dan Campbell's always going to have a good offensive line. Remember, their first draft pick was Penny. Whenever they were building this entire thing up, kind of set the standard and.
- [152:41]
Bruce Arians
And he. He was a left tackle. They still have Taylor Lawan, and he's playing right tackle and he's out there leading sweeps. He's. They're going to throw him the ball one of these times.
- [152:51]
Pat McAfee
Can they.
- [152:52]
Bruce Arians
They got to throw the ball to him.
- [152:53]
Pat McAfee
Who the Pittsburgh Steelers throw to the other night. 74. It was like the first pass.
- [152:57]
Ty Schmidt
Spencer Anderson. Yeah, yeah. Big something.
- [152:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was pretty cool kind of hit. He looked very natural.
- [153:01]
Ty Schmidt
He did.
- [153:02]
Pat McAfee
And also, I love Aaron throwing that thing. It just pegged him. Right. And it was just like broadside of barn. Yeah. Let me just go ahead and peg this guy with this ball. I loved everybody, everything about it. I like whenever people get me too, you know, kind of creative. Detroit Lions always have. They all. I've also always had a very tough football team. And congrats to their offensive line getting the All BA team. And then the Indianapolis coach, which we all.
- [153:22]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, of course. Indianapolis Colts. I mean, with JT doing, he's 100, what, 80 yards and 12 carries or some like that. Danny Dimes lighting it up.
- [153:30]
Tone
Crazy.
- [153:30]
Bruce Arians
But those guys up front are playing. They gotta stay healthy. They stay healthy, they're gonna be hard to beat.
- [153:35]
Pat McAfee
Boy, I think BA Was potentially watching in trenches to do scouting for the All BA because these two teams obviously been up there for the entirety of the season. Foxy, congrats to your team's offensive line winning an all BA nod. Yeah. This is awesome, coach. Thank you. And if you remember, before the season started, we were pretty worried about this O line because Ragnar retired, Zeitler left, and we had a lot of young guys in there, so it's pretty awesome. Congrats to you as well. Thank you, Jesus.
- [154:05]
Bruce Arians
Wow.
- [154:05]
Pat McAfee
What type of place is. Well, you know, what's been in my brain is like, AQ really hasn't given you guys a lot of respect. Even though you guys are kind of on the list, you're never top one or two.
- [154:15]
Foxy
Like we are.
- [154:15]
Pat McAfee
So.
- [154:16]
Bruce Arians
Right.
- [154:16]
Pat McAfee
It's all BA Day. Okay, let's go to the running backs who are on the all B A team.
- [154:23]
Bruce Arians
BA I mean, probably the two most explosive guys in the league right now. Jameer Gibbs for Detroit Lions and Jonathan Taylor.
- [154:32]
Foxy
That's right.
- [154:33]
Pat McAfee
Congrats on your running back, A.J. did you think the O line and the running backs were going to go hand in hand there? It seems to make sense.
- [154:43]
AJ Hawk
I thought though, yeah, that makes sense. They go hand in hand. Why now?
- [154:45]
Pat McAfee
Because this is Sonic and Knuckles not getting a nod here. Obviously on the LBA team, we don't want to cause any friction in the Detroit at Lions locker room. But on that note, he is special. This guy's very dynamic.
- [154:58]
Bruce Arians
Jir Gibbs, especially in the passing game. He is a total mismatch. And even a wide flare turns into something. Every time he touches ball, something spectacular can happen.
- [155:06]
Pat McAfee
Number zero looks cool too.
- [155:08]
Bruce Arians
It really does.
- [155:08]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I thought he should have worn one.
- [155:10]
AJ Hawk
You want to make this tackle in space? Good luck.
- [155:13]
Pat McAfee
You AJ what do you got to do? You just got to shoot your shot there, right?
- [155:17]
AJ Hawk
I mean, so number eight, technically, in theory, number eight is inside leverage. You got outside help. Like you want to go through that inside leg and take a shot. Good luck. It's Jameer Gibbs. I don't blame anybody for that happen like you, most humans can't stop, run completely full speed towards the sideline, stop, jump, cut back inside and still break eight more tackles.
- [155:34]
Pat McAfee
So they got Jameer Gibbs, they got JMO up there.
- [155:36]
Foxy
I mean, raw, dynamic Amon ross, you know, 30 yards downfield, blocking on that first highlight. That's. That's culture.
- [155:46]
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you what. What, man? It's pretty good. And then let's go to the AFC side. Running back all BA team. This guy might win the mvp. Seriously, this guy might win the MVP they're talking about because there hasn't been like a quarterback that maybe has run away with it. Maybe this is the year that a non quarterback wins the MVP. He's what, four games with three plus touchdowns? He's all over the place. B.A.
- [156:06]
Bruce Arians
Unbelievable. I mean, again, Jonathan Taylor's also a great receiver. You can use him in the passing game. But 12 touches in 100, whatever, 80 yards. He had three touchdowns. I mean, that's.
- [156:17]
Pat McAfee
That's just spectacular. And his celebration's cool. Celebration is very, very cool. I saw a lot of people on the Internet that maybe aren't as athletic throughout their life say, hey, I tried this and it like blew my quad.
- [156:31]
AJ Hawk
If you get hurt trying that one.
- [156:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I didn't even think about that. I mean, every time I've done it, I've done it like kind of in place. I guess people are actually Going full.
- [156:38]
Ty Schmidt
Speed and then it in there and.
- [156:39]
AJ Hawk
Then just do not do that.
- [156:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. We would like to send out a warning. Do not hit maximum speed before you just start to one hop that thing. Yeah, I, I have not done it. I haven't even thought about running and doing it. No, maybe you should. And maybe that's because we have a different mindset to people that maybe aren't athletes. Like, I knew my knees would shoot out from underneath there if you're going to hop on that. Which makes it even more impressive. He drags people around, then he, you know what, let's make sure we flex out here. And the boys, seemingly tighter than they've ever been age, had a Halloween party last night. You heard Danny Dimes talk about it?
- [157:13]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [157:14]
AJ Hawk
Pretty good attendance.
- [157:15]
Pat McAfee
I heard, right? Yeah. He said he didn't want to keep tabs on it. You know, I didn't, I didn't count it.
- [157:20]
Ty Schmidt
That was a mark, everybody.
- [157:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's what he said. Yeah, it's like, all right, what he said. Good.
- [157:25]
AJ Hawk
I didn't take roll.
- [157:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's good. We got good going on, bro.
- [157:29]
AJ Hawk
It's a real thing. That's a real thing. People probably would overlook, but yeah, like if you had very poor attention attendance to a player led Halloween party, like if I was the coach, I'd be like, oh, man, we got to figure something out. This is not good.
- [157:40]
Pat McAfee
Aj, I don't want to keep bringing it up, but I'm hearing stories about the boys having beers with the boys. Okay. Like, I'm hearing a lot of those stories. And as a 38 year old who grew up in a different time, to AJ's point. Yes. This is, this is, this is just like cards. This is just like cards. Like the more you can be around and interacting with each other at different states of mind, at different states of mind is a good way to build up chemistry and trust, I believe. Coach B.
- [158:10]
Bruce Arians
Totally. One of the best teams I ever been on was Steelers super bowl team. There'd be 30 cars in the parking lot on Tuesday. They're in the locker room shooting hoops, playing cards. Nobody's watching film, but they're all in there together. Offense, defense, because they cared about each other.
- [158:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you need that, aj. I hope that never leaves in this isolated, disconnected world. I don't think it can in football. I think you have to have a relationship. But man, whenever you hear about your team liking each other, I think people would need to take it a lot more serious. We, we've been talking about it for like Seven years. I think on our show, like, hey, that team looks like they like each other. That's a big deal. And I think people thought that we were giving like elementary level opinions on things and it's like, no, no, no. I think that means actually more than a lot of the shit that you're talking about actually in a team space, aj.
- [158:55]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. Because times like, things will get tough and every game there's a. There's usually at least some kind of point where you can kind of go one way or the other. Like, the defense can get pissed at the offense because the offense isn't doing anything, or vice versa. And if you like each other and you hang out and you actually know each other well, you'll make it through that and be fine. And you'll be laughing about it after the game. Like, if not you, that's when you get that infighting. You got to have a stupid players only meeting the next day and all that stuff.
- [159:18]
Pat McAfee
Whoa. Those players only meeting are right around the corner.
- [159:23]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [159:23]
Pat McAfee
Hey, we're almost in players only meeting season. I. I just.
- [159:27]
Bruce Arians
Oh.
- [159:27]
Foxy
Oh.
- [159:28]
Pat McAfee
I just got pretty excited about somebody's having one next week. Yeah. What? Week nine coming up.
- [159:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [159:33]
Pat McAfee
Holy Inn's coming.
- [159:35]
Tone
It turned the fin season around.
- [159:36]
AJ Hawk
We're here.
- [159:37]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [159:38]
Tone
I forgot they had one, right?
- [159:39]
AJ Hawk
Did they kind of.
- [159:40]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [159:40]
Pat McAfee
Cuz they had to apologize for things that they said publicly.
- [159:43]
Foxy
What other teams might.
- [159:45]
Bruce Arians
Somebody's defense just had one.
- [159:48]
Foxy
Who's that?
- [159:49]
Bruce Arians
I'm not sure. There was a team that I think today, yesterday of the team, somebody's defense.
- [159:56]
Pat McAfee
And he just looked at him. Is that true or maybe.
- [160:01]
Bruce Arians
No, I think it was. No, I think it was Steelers though.
- [160:03]
Pat McAfee
No, no, sir. I heard somebody doing it. I think, you know, players, players, players gather as units. I think on a regular basis. It's the whole ceremonial, hey, we're all meeting in a team meeting room. No coaches. It's going to be us. It's that player meeting I think is the one that we're all referring to here. Whenever that starts happening, fucking mail it in, it's over.
- [160:28]
Bruce Arians
Definitely.
- [160:28]
Pat McAfee
I just got word Cincinnati Bengals just had a defensive only players only meeting.
- [160:33]
Foxy
Nice.
- [160:34]
Pat McAfee
You knew it, didn't want to give it away. Didn't know what all was public. That's BA saying something going, oh, fuck, we don't know about this yet. Okay, maybe didn't happen. No, it did happen. Since they had Bengals. Hey, that's good inside.
- [160:45]
Foxy
And for the Bengals, by the way, they're starting rookie linebacker got hurt. So Logan Wilson unpack Your bags. You're a Cincinnati Bengal, baby.
- [160:54]
Pat McAfee
Unbelievable. To think about what's going on in Cincinnati all off season. We talked about how they built their roster.
- [161:00]
Ty Schmidt
You know, hey, you guys can't win like this.
- [161:03]
Pat McAfee
Everybody talked about it. Didn't everybody talk about it, A.J. i think everybody.
- [161:06]
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
- [161:07]
Bruce Arians
They might be the last one standing in the AFC.
- [161:09]
Tone
They might.
- [161:10]
Foxy
Yeah.
- [161:10]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [161:10]
Foxy
Ba.
- [161:12]
Pat McAfee
Whoa. 47 years of football.
- [161:15]
Foxy
So Trey Anderson's out. Now they got a middle linebacker who, I mean, he'll. He'll play his ass off because he wants to get the fuck out of Cincy. And then who else do they have on defense? I mean, they might.
- [161:25]
Pat McAfee
They had a meeting.
- [161:26]
Foxy
They might win 45 to 40 going forward. That. That sounds like AFC north ball. Now.
- [161:31]
Pat McAfee
AFC north ball right now might look vastly different. If you're listening to BS or no bsba, every coach is on hot seat. He says up there, there. But there's no hot seat in Indianapolis at the running back position or the offensive line. Shout out to the Colts. Being on all the awards office. This is really good because for a long time we were on the wrong end of the highlights. That's what the Colts were for a while. Now we're on award season. And let's go to the leaders of the team. Who are the quarterbacks on the mid season? All BA Team. Ba.
- [162:01]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, we're going to go with a little young and a little bit of vet. Veteran Drake May. New England Patriots is playing great football. Got them in first place. And shout out to Josh McDaniels. He's actually got him playing really good ball. And then Matt Stafford at his age, still slinging it, carrying the Rams maybe all the way to the playoffs.
- [162:21]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations, boys. Con man. It's not just you that's seeing it now at this point with Drake May. That has to feel pretty good as a Patriots fan.
- [162:29]
Foxy
Yeah, it's great. Everybody's kind of bumping their gums on TV now, talking about him, which is awesome, and just regurgitating the same stats over again. But Josh McDaniels, to BA's point, and Mike Vrabel, you know, I think they've just given him a lot of belief. He's always known he could make every throw. Maybe last year he didn't have that. Basically the same roster. You draft a, you know, left tackle who Will Campbell, you know, it's only up from here because Myles Garrett's as good as it's going to get for the rest of time. Possibly so very excited about the offensive line. And left guard Jared Wilson kind of a sneaky part of this entire offense. And AQ will not shut up texting me about this left guard. He's a rookie from Georgia. He's been fantastic. Offensive lines good. Drake may spinning the pill. And you know, as we approach trade deadline, you start to think like, who do we need? Who do we need? Who do we need? We might not need anybody, to be honest. Just got kind of have to stay healthy. We have not allowed one 50 yard rusher yet this season.
- [163:25]
Pat McAfee
That's unbelievable to hear. Shout to variable. Turning the entire culture quickly and Drake may continue continuing to become an absolute monster in the league. Remember him and Josh Allen hung out.
- [163:33]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [163:34]
Pat McAfee
And everybody thinks about like with the size, the athleticism, everything that he has, if he's able to go on the same trajectory as Josh Allen, we're talking about a new great. Well, it seems like we're only a couple years into this case study. Feels like he's on the same trajectory. A.J. hawk.
- [163:47]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, Drake may, they found their guy. I think with Josh McDaniels, it's really like he looks very, very comfortable. Like it looks like he owns that offense and he knows what he is doing. Like he is anticipating these throws and he looks awesome.
- [163:59]
Pat McAfee
Congrats to New England. You guys got a guy.
- [164:01]
Foxy
Hell yeah. He's 23. Like, that's the most exciting part. Like everybody this year, you know, no matter what the season ends, like he's 23 years old. It's Rabel's first year as a head coach. I think we have the most cap space next year or the year after. So it's just one of those things, you know, that you're going to be great for a little bit.
- [164:18]
Pat McAfee
Now Drake's 23 years old.
- [164:20]
Foxy
23 years old. Yeah.
- [164:21]
Pat McAfee
This is second year in the NFL.
- [164:22]
Foxy
This is second year in the CFL.
- [164:23]
Pat McAfee
How old is Diego Pavia?
- [164:25]
Ty Schmidt
24.
- [164:25]
Pat McAfee
How old is Tyler Shuck that just got drafted?
- [164:27]
Tone
26, I believe.
- [164:28]
Daniel Jones
Or 25.
- [164:29]
Pat McAfee
How old is Jaden Daniels?
- [164:31]
Foxy
He turned 20 or I think he turns 24. Or he is 24 now. I forget.
- [164:36]
Pat McAfee
But so Drake is wildly young.
- [164:38]
Foxy
Wildly young. And he's already very good. And something he mentioned actually was, you know, everyone talks about 7 on 7 being bad ball. If it's good for anybody, it's quarterbacks because they know, you know how to attack. Cover two, cover three, all those different types of zones. And that's what he kind of attributed to when it came to like.
- [164:54]
Pat McAfee
Oh, like growing up.
- [164:55]
Foxy
Yeah, exactly. Growing up. Throwing those like little hole shots that you see the deep balls especially, I mean, he's the best downfield passer in the NFL. Everybody's talking about I have to dink and dunk. You don't. If you have a guy that can hit every single deep ball when the chances present themselves. Mike Vrabel gave this whole entire thing like on the sideline before the play, they were doing the touchdown, Touchdown, touchdown. And Mike Vrabel was like, relax, relax. And then, you know, 10 seconds later, it's a deep ball touchdown to K Shawn Booty.
- [165:21]
Pat McAfee
Unbelievable culture change up there in New England. Congrats to them being all the way back. And then you talk about the young guy, 23 years old, in his second year already. Let's go to the old guy. Drafted his same draft class as me, 2009 number one pick overall. I was 222. This guy's outrageous. Still what he's doing. Looks young. Still looks fresh as it's coming off his hand.
- [165:40]
Bruce Arians
Yeah, I mean he spends it. I got a couple weeks ago he's the only guy to go out, watch warm up. I literally a head coach sister. I'll go out and watch Matt warm up because he threw balls that nobody else could throw.
- [165:51]
Pat McAfee
Still doing it.
- [165:52]
Foxy
It's like the Dano story he told.
- [165:53]
Bruce Arians
Just amazing.
- [165:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Dan Orlovsky similar things, but everybody, yeah. Whenever allegedly Stafford told Orlovsky, you can make that throw.
- [166:02]
Bruce Arians
Okay?
- [166:03]
Pat McAfee
Nobody can make this throw. And that was what Matt Stafford was. Was able to do. He's got a gunslinger mentality. He's incredibly tough. He's old school beers with the boys type guy. And with Sean McVeigh, it seems like a perfect fit. And now they got Devonte Adams in tow. A.J. hawk. I mean, it's a beautiful setup out there. Is this guy going to play forever?
- [166:22]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, he. He just might. Especially with Devonte in the red zone too, man. Like, I know they love talking about what off platform throws and the arm angles and everything, but when you. The more you watch, the more impressive I think it is. Especially with this. I mean, just look at that thing like how he can throw and his feel for where defenders are and how he throws. Dudes, open. It's next level.
- [166:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Matthew's been doing it for a long time and now for the first time he's on the all B.A.
- [166:47]
Foxy
Congrats, man.
- [166:48]
Pat McAfee
Congrats.
- [166:48]
Ty Schmidt
Congrats everybody.
- [166:49]
Pat McAfee
Congrats everybody on this team. Obviously we take this squad over anybody out there and BA thanks for putting thought into that. Congrats. All these guys, they will certainly win nothing But a big time round of applause, right, BA oh, that's it, baby.
- [167:03]
Bruce Arians
That's all you get.
- [167:04]
Pat McAfee
A big one, though.
- [167:05]
Bruce Arians
Big. Yeah.
- [167:08]
Pat McAfee
A.J. please. A.J. hey. Your award.
- [167:15]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [167:16]
Pat McAfee
Don't say we didn't give you nothing.
- [167:18]
Tone
Just like you told Danny Dimes they haven't done yet.
- [167:20]
Pat McAfee
I do text Danny Dimes that every week.
- [167:23]
Bruce Arians
Every week.
- [167:25]
Pat McAfee
Congrats, man. That was so cool. God, you crushed him. You haven't done anything texting.
- [167:30]
Bruce Arians
And the next text, you haven't done shit yet, but you're smelling a little better.
- [167:35]
Pat McAfee
Yes, you are. And on that note, we got a guy who's really. He was once a pioneer in a game in his Thunderdome. And then he's changed his style to no longer be a pioneer. He's just amongst the others and he. He is trying his absolute best to become the greatest and debone. Why don't you come out here and try to win some people some money here know last week he threw on off the backboard, off the brick, off the backboard and then splash. And he did that on purpose. And now today he is dressed spectacular. I mean, he looks amazing. Cowboy. How you doing? Bud's got the boots on, got shit kickers on, obviously got the camouflage hat. And you know, we're getting to the weather where he can wear the overcoat if he needs it. He had vest and hoodie and overcoat on yesterday. First big man I've ever seen that's overdressing everybody else in a place. But he is a special talent. This guy can put together a graphic now like a motherfucker. This guy's a true talent. And we saw last week that maybe he can have God bless his ball to fall into the hoop. But I think what we had last week that we need this week. BA Is there any way that you could try to motivate this boy right over here wearing these shit kickers to throw that U ball into that 8 foot high hoop over there? And if he's able to accomplish that 25 people in $500 on this glorious BA day.
- [168:47]
Bruce Arians
Okay, brother, now you had the shot of shots last week. We don't need that. I just straight, straight in it. Just make that damn thing.
- [168:56]
Pat McAfee
It deboned 25 people. $500. Oh, that's minus one point. Thank you.
- [169:07]
Tone
Debone did hit a brick on the far right side.
- [169:09]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he did.
- [169:10]
Pat McAfee
Come on, son.
- [169:11]
AJ Hawk
He can shoot it. He actually had a good like when he actually shot it.
- [169:14]
Daniel Jones
He made him up.
- [169:14]
Tone
Come on, son.
- [169:18]
Pat McAfee
One more shot. Debo.
- [169:20]
Foxy
He got bone.
- [169:21]
Tone
Come on, son.
- [169:22]
Pat McAfee
Why are you throwing it still? Cuz you want to be a pioneer? Is that what you want to do? You want to. You want to continue your life as a pioneer? He used to throw it. He's first one to throw it. Actually. A lot of people attacked him for throwing it early. Turns out not a bad style. Yeah, I actually utilize it as one of my three throws. Much like sh. I have a array of different throws in u ball. But he. He had been shooting this particular ball, Coach. He seemingly changed his whenever there was a little bit on the line. How do you feel about that, Coach?
- [169:48]
Bruce Arians
That.
- [169:49]
Pat McAfee
That's shaky.
- [169:49]
Bruce Arians
That's shaky. But I think you've been practicing a little bit. I've seen you. All right. You got this, bro.
- [169:54]
Pat McAfee
Do 25 people $500 debone. Okay? Maybe tomorrow, maybe next week. We appreciate the hell out of you, Deb Bone. And before we get out of here, we have to make one special moment for somebody very special in our lives. Ladies and gentlemen, this man is a New York Giants fan. This man is a New York Yankees fan. He's a New York Knicks fan. I think he also likes some other sports that are over there that aren't good.
- [170:25]
Foxy
He's Tottenham Hot spurs fan.
- [170:27]
Pat McAfee
He's. He's been in the middle of some shite for a while. Every day he comes in there with the same wide attitude. Yeah. And his vibe's always immaculate. He works his ass off. And his hair is finally getting a chance to kind of peek off.
- [170:42]
Foxy
Yes, it is.
- [170:43]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a birthday today. Happy birthday, Bruce.
- [170:48]
Ty Schmidt
Thank you, boys.
- [170:50]
Pat McAfee
Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to.
- [170:58]
Foxy
To you, baby Gertie.
- [171:01]
Pat McAfee
Happy birthday, dear Bruce. Happy birthday to you. I almost said Matt.
- [171:15]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [171:15]
Pat McAfee
Think about that.
- [171:16]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [171:16]
Pat McAfee
Happy birthday, Matt.
- [171:18]
Foxy
Happy birthday, Matty.
- [171:19]
Tone
We have a birthday every day this month.
- [171:20]
Pat McAfee
Or it does feel like a lot of cakes coming in. A lot of cakes coming.
- [171:23]
Daniel Jones
Yeah. A lot of October bit babies in here. But thank you, boys. I appreciate it very much.
- [171:26]
Pat McAfee
So you're not. October's very. Everybody's kind of October, so. But on that note, we're thankful to have you, buddy. Happy birthday. Thank you, man.
- [171:34]
Daniel Jones
Appreciate it. Appreciate all you guys.
- [171:35]
Pat McAfee
This next year of your life is about to be the coolest, actually.
- [171:38]
Foxy
Yeah.
- [171:38]
Bruce Arians
Oh, yeah.
- [171:39]
Pat McAfee
As we forecast.
- [171:40]
Daniel Jones
Big 30, baby. Here we go.
- [171:42]
Bruce Arians
Yeah.
- [171:43]
Pat McAfee
Oh, no.
- [171:44]
Foxy
Connor, tell them I pulled a muscle coffin driving into work. Bruce.
- [171:48]
Pat McAfee
Welcome to 30, brother.
- [171:49]
Foxy
That's 30.
- [171:50]
Ty Schmidt
I know it, brother.
- [171:51]
Pat McAfee
No, but there's good coming, too. There's good coming, too.
- [171:53]
Foxy
Oh, yeah, of course.
- [171:54]
Pat McAfee
Right, yeah.
- [171:54]
Foxy
Prostate exams.
- [171:55]
Bruce Arians
I just turned 73 and shot my age again, so.
- [171:57]
Pat McAfee
Boom, boom. Happy birthday.
- [172:00]
Bruce Arians
It's gonna be a while before you shoot your age, though.
- [172:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, more than you can imagine. Happy birthday, Bruce. We appreciate you. All right, let's get the hell out of here.
- [172:17]
Ty Schmidt
Go. Ball the ball.
- [172:20]
Pat McAfee
Hey, not bad there.
- [172:21]
Bruce Arians
That was in.
- [172:21]
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you what. I did have a thought, man. Quarterback whisper is literally right behind me. Sure would be sick to make this right now. Tomorrow, better day, though.
- [172:30]
Ty Schmidt
Boom.
- [172:31]
Pat McAfee
Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice in my. Change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me, coach. Anything you say.
- [172:36]
Bruce Arians
Great show. Better win next week.
- [172:38]
Pat McAfee
Hell yeah, A.J. we'll see you tomorrow. Team on three. One, two, three.
- [172:43]
Tone
Team.
- [172:43]
AJ Hawk
Goodbye.
- [172:45]
Pat McAfee
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