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PMS 2.0 1441 - TNF Preview, Louisiana Governor Jeff Landry, Nebraska Head Coach Matt Rhule, Pete Thamel, Mike McCarthy, & AJ Hawk
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Hello beautiful people, and welcome to our spooky humble above the ThunderDome on this NFL Week 9 kickoff Thursday, October 30, 2025. This program begins now.
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Football.
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It is spooky though. Football kicks off week nine of its NFL season this evening as the Baltimore Ravens, with Lamar Jackson back at quarterback, go down to his hometown of Miami to take on the Dolphins as seven and a half point favorites. Now, Lamar Jackson spoke very candidly. This about kicking all the bullshit out of the locker room. Okay, if we're winning, maybe it's not a problem. We're losing. We need to lock in a little bit more. He was doing that whenever he wasn't even playing. Now remember, had a hamstring injury a couple weeks back. Everybody saw him on the sideline not going to the game. They thought, well, Mark Jackson, this guy quit on the team. This guy quit on the team. Turns out that ended up being about a month long hamstring injury, including a bye week and then a miss game post that. Now he's back on a Thursday night in Miami in a must win game for this Baltimore Ravens team. And everybody thinks that they're going to must win and will win. The sports still have the Baltimore Ravens as the favorites to win the AFC north even though they're 2 and 5 or whatever the hell it is at this point. But they're going to rattle off a bunch of wins. What the sports books think and the reason is because Lamar Jackson is special and maybe the defense has figured out how to play football. Patrick Ricard being back for the Baltimore Ravens, that fullback, is a massive ordeal for the way they operate as well. Will tonight just be an absolute clobbering of the Miami Dolphins? Let's go to one half of the hammer, dad. Cowboys at Bubba Gumpino. He wore his full Dolphins costume today. This is not Halloween. This is heading into a prime time matchup against Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens. Last week you guys played the best game you guys have played in a long, long time. Vibes obviously immaculate. Can't enjoy an entire victory week, you know, because the game's on Thursday, not on Sunday. You got four good days of celebration here. What did you see from the boys last week against the Falcons that make you think, you know what, why not the Miami Dolphins going forward? And how do you like your chances against the Baltimore Ravens? Old Gump.
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All season we couldn't stop the run and we couldn't run the football. Last week we did both at a very high level. Got to keep doing that. Let me tell you about the last time the Ravens came into Miami on Thursday night, they're about 12 and a half point favorites. Everyone said, we're gonna get crushed. Boys are gonna get it done tonight. We're riding this momentum. The Fins are going right now. That was the best game I've seen him play all three phases last week in a long, long time.
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All right, well, thanks for telling us about it. You know, we do appreciate you telling us all about what the Dolphins did last time against Baltimore Ravens on Thursday night. Feels different just strictly because Lamar Jackson being back in the vibes. The culture with the Baltimore Ravens are currently at. Obviously, a lot of people in Baltimore and I don't want to speak for the entire fan base, but it feels like Harbaugh's potentially on, you know, hey, we gotta win. And Lamar Jackson seemingly with the rest of the locker room in the culture, hey, hey, we gotta win. And on defensive side, it's, hey, hey, are we playing Baltimore Ravens football or not over here? I couldn't even imagine the conversations that have taken place behind closed doors over there with the amount of outside pressure that could be creeping into that entire beautiful castle they got over there as a practice facility. But tonight's a huge one in prime time on Amazon prime with Kirk and Al and Kaylee Hartung on the call. Carissa Thompson, Richard Sherman, who don't look now. I think he's going to be in studio here soon. I do believe Richard Sherman's coming through the Thunderdome. Shot the Fitz and Wit and then Tony Gonzalez as well. They got a great show and I think tonight is going to provide a lot of opportunity. They're going to be down in Miami. Supposed to be 80 degrees, clear skies down in Miami. The toxic tables here at Boston. Conor at Ty Schmidt feels like we're going to have a good game tonight.
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Oh, yeah. I'm so excited to see Lamar again. It's one of those things you kind of forget about, especially when he, you know, misses games. Ravens have a slow start, and then you forget what Lamar can do. And you mentioned Patrick Ricard. AQ Shipley came in here yesterday bitching and moaning about his skeleton, but also about the fact that the Ravens now with Patrick Ricard has completely changed their entire team. But I'll tell you what about Gumpy's Point. You know, you go one in five to three and five in six days, all of a sudden those Miami Dolphins do look, do look like they're building something because, you know, they beat the Atlanta Falcons and, you know, Kirk Cousins, but that Defense is very good, and they. They hung 30 on them. So all of a sudden, hold on. Miami might. Might be up to something as well.
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And Baltimore's defense obviously has not been performing that fantastically, which is very abnormal for the Baltimore Ravens as a whole. And you look at their records, you. You don't have a lot of wins at the top of this thing. You don't have a lot of wins. Two and five, two and six. Thursday night, prime time. The NFL, fresh off its biggest ass weekend in 55 years. Now we got this crap. Tonight is how you could view that. If you only look at the record. If you only look at the record, sure. Okay. If you only look at 2 or 5, 2 and 6.
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We don't do that, though.
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No, you got to be deeper than that.
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Yeah.
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You got to have some depth. You got to have culture, which is why I can't wait to show you one half of the hammer. Don. Cowboys. What's the line saying about tonight in your eyes? What's the percentage of money on who? Ladies and gentlemen, brand new ap. Mario.
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Yeah, we're cooking up something for tomorrow for Hallows Eve, so we got to get in the spirit. But for today, tonight, seven and a half across the board, Ravens are the favorites on the road. 68% of the money is on the Ravens. If that was earlier in the season when it was just a historically bad sign, if the public money was over 60% on you, but this last week it went 5 and 6. If. If you 60 plus percent of the bets. 5 and 6. Last week, the teams were. The Chiefs on Monday Night football were getting 69% and they. And they absolutely blew them out. So I don't know if that's a bad thing anymore. Ravens tonight at Dolphins.
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Seven and a half.
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Okay, so obviously everybody's going to love the Ravens here because Lamar Jackson's back.
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Yeah.
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Okay. That's what you're. And also, what do we think of whenever we think of Miami? We think of McDaniel walking down that tunnel with his little off white shoe tags kind of bopping around while he's going on. We love McDaniel. He was awesome for football. He is still awesome for football. And obviously his brain is kind of all over the NFL right now with the emotions and the shifts and how much he changed and transformed what defenses have to do pre snap, during snap and immediately after snap. He was really an innovator, I think everybody would say, which is why he is and was and became the head coach for the Miami Dolphins. But, boy, it was A lot more fun when they were good. You know, the McDaniel experience was a lot more fun whenever they were good. Hopefully maybe prime time. We get the battle of the best here. Lamar at his best, McDaniel and two at their best. Does he have a visor on tonight? Do we know if two is wearing a visor like he was on Sunday?
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Running it back with the visor one and oh, with the visor. He said, I'm doing it, boys. Want me to keep wearing it, I'm going to keep doing it.
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That's very smart. Okay. Ty, last night, World Series felt like we're talking about Canada's baseball team maybe handling the 18 inning game a lot better than the Dodgers. Is that what we're seeing on the field?
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Yeah, it certainly looks like that. Dodgers still look a little bit sleepy. The Blue Jays look like they got a lot of juice. First pitch of the game. First pitch of the game. Davis Schneider lead off, homer off Blake Snell. That's okay though. That happens sometimes.
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Boom.
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Third pitch of the game. Vladdy Guerrero lines one into the Dodgers bullpen.
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That's a pot of pop.
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Yeah, I mean the, literally the worst start imaginable. Couldn't. Couldn't, I guess, yeah. Two homers and two pitches. Maybe you could, you could argue would be worse, but same deal. But then the, the real story of the game is after that. Blue Jays rookie pitcher Trey Savage, he set a bunch of records last night, just absolutely dominated the Dodgers. He, he threw seven innings, three hits, one earned run. He did give up a homer early and then settled down after that. 12 strikeouts, that's, that's the big thing. He is the first pitcher in World Series history to have a 12 strikeout, zero walk game. And he also set the World Series rookie record for strikeouts in a game with 12. That is a record that has stood since 1949. Those are stats. This guy's unbelievable. Just, you know, another kind of a fun stat here. Trey Savage, he, so he made his debut on September 15, so he has not been in the big leagues for very long at all. His base salary this year is $760,000. On the other side, Blake Snell, who, you know, big free agent signing for the Dodgers, his base salary this year is $26 million. So they're not expecting this guy to do this. And he has one of the best performances in the history of the World Series. Blue Jays win 6 1. Another going back to Toronto with a 32 lead.
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Did you say $26 million on loser?
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Yeah, exactly.
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That's 53 million on loser down there in the bayou. Now, Governor Jeff Landry obviously went very viral and became a mega subject of conversation due to a press conference where he chit chatted about the future of the LSU head coaching vacancy.
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The first question is absolutely correct. We are not going down a failed path. And I wanted to tell you something. This is a pattern, okay? The guy that's here now that wrote that contract cost Texas A&M 70 something million dollars. Right now we got a 53 million dollar liability. We are not doing that again. And you know what I believe? I believe that we're going to find a great coach. I maybe let President Trump pick it. He loves winners. You know, I'm not going to be picking the next coach, but I can promise you we're going to pick a coach and we're going to make sure that that coach is successful and we're going to make sure that he's compensated properly and we're going to put metrics on it because I'm tired of rewarding failure in this country and then leaving the taxpayers on the foot, you know, to foot the bill. So, yeah, absolutely. Who's that? No, I can tell you right now, Scott Woodward is not selecting the next coach. Hell, I'll let Donald Trump select it before I let him do it.
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It.
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I don't know. But the Board of Supervisors is going to come up with a committee and they're going to go find us a coach. Because I want to.
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Hold on, hold on.
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One real quick thing on that, because here's what y' all reporters need to do. Y' all need to start looking at who represents all these people like these agents. You know what's interesting, if I'm not mistaken? Woodard's agent, Kelly's agent, the Texas A, they're all the same agent. Like you realize if I would be. I don't know how y'. All. How many sports riders we got here today? Just you. We should have a bunch. Okay, like this is ridiculous. Lawyers would be this bored for the way these agents act and the way they're able to represent. In fact, they may. There's no doubt they may even represent some of the players now. Like it's really time for the NCAA to put on some guardrails in college sports. Because it is fine. We don't need to guard rails it big billionaires want to spend all that kind of money, no problem. But if I got to go find $53 million from Kemp, it's not going to be a pleasant conversation. I'm just telling you, I like, I know. And I think that that's important as well. Y' all should start looking into that.
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Ladies and gentlemen, said Governor Jeff Landry. Are you Governor Landry? You really stirred the pot here today, Governor. You really stirred the pot.
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It's ridiculous. It really is, Pat. Thank you for having me this morning. You know, you know, the sad part is there's two groups of people that seem to not be. We're not talking about in this equation. One, it's the players. It's the great players that we brought to LSU and the great players that are LSU Tigers right now and that have to operate under all of this chaos. And I tell you, look, I feel for them. I really, really do. We want to make sure that those boys get back on the pitch, feel we want them playing football for the love of the game. And then the second group is the fans. Because the thing that really started us off was Saturday night after the Texas A and M loss, I'm laying in bed and I'm like, ah, this is a mess. Telling my wife, because the worst time for the Louisiana governors, when LSU football team is losing, okay, It's a bad day for me or whoever the governor is. And she says, do you know the Board of Supervisors raised the ticket prices on Friday? I was like, what? Yeah, for next year. I'm like, no, we're not doing that. Because what fills Tiger stadiums are not billionaires. What feels Tiger stadiums are nurses, plant workers, welders, fitters, truck drivers. Those are the people that go to Tiger Stadium to be entertained, to watch a great game of football. And we should not be piling all of these millions upon millions upon tens of millions of dollars of contracts on the backs of them.
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Okay? So, Governor, thank you for saying that. And I think your fans will be appreciative of that. College football fans will be appreciative of that. And thank you for your time. Let's kind of get into this a little bit more with everything you just said and then you said at your press conf conference. So the governor runs the state schools. Is that accurate? So ultimately, you are boss at lsu. Is that a, Is that a fair assessment? Because I don't know that this is a legitimate question whenever I say this.
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Yeah, yeah. So. So we've got a number of four year universities in the state of Louisiana, and each LSU has their own board. It's called the Board of Supervisors. It's appointed by the governor under staggered terms. So really, I'm the one that appoints them. They Then appoint the president and the ad, and. And the decisions that are made at the university are really made by the board. But there are appointees that represent me. That's pretty much the same way. I think it happens around the state, around the country. I know that's how it happens in Texas as well. The governor's in charge of appointing the Board of Regents of, say, A and M&UT.
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Okay, so you have the board of supervisors there at lsu. You said in your press conference that they will either find a committee to find the coach or they will select a coach in that entire process. Are you in there at all? Because I think people are saying, because you said in there, I'm not picking a coach. You say, I'm not picking a coach, but other people will pick the coach.
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I'm not.
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Now, do you feel, though, that immediately upon you speaking about it, everybody thinks themselves Governor Landry wants to pick a coach. That is kind of what people get worried about. That is not what you were saying at all. Right?
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No, listen, emphatically, I am not picking the coach. That is not my job. The only reason I'm really involved, Pat, is because this contract that currently is between the state of Louisiana, the Louisiana State University System, and Brian Kelly leaves the taxpayers of the state on the bill. There's misinformation out there. People are saying, no, the taxpayers aren't liable. They're not reading the contract. On Sunday, I had a meeting with the lawyers as they were talking about whether or not Brian Kelly was terminated, whether we were going to fire him, and all I cared about were the taxpayers of our state. And that contract binds the state of Louisiana. If we have to pay $53 million and somebody else doesn't step up to foot that bill, the State of Louisiana has to foot that bill. That is in the contract.
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Okay? So on that note, as you know now, I assume you were told this Texas A and M's coach, Jimbo has an agent and Brian Kelly has an agent. Now, I think Brian Kelly's agent potentially also works with Scott Woodward. Let's talk about that. The athletic director. Because you would assume at most places the athletic director would be the one that's picking the coach? You emphatically saying, absolutely not. Is it because the contract and what you learned about what he had done in the past, or is it strictly because we can't have a situation look like this again with the 53 million? Because I think a lot of people have said, Scott's the athletic director for a reason. You're going to have people that aren't in athletics now making an athletics decision. Do you view it that way? And why do you think that is kind of how it's going to go?
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Look, let's unpackage that. Let's talk about numb. Number one, there's a number of bad contracts that seem to have followed Scott Woodard. Okay. Number two, his agent and Brian Kelly's agent are the same agent. That's something else. That's misinformation out there. I believe that Armstrong represents them both. I don't even know if Armstrong represents some of our players. In. In the legal profession, that is called a conflict of interest. How can I trust my athletic director who. Whose agent also represents some of the candidates that are out there? You would think that if I, if the board of supervisors gave. What are the list of five coaches that are looking to come to LSU and three or two or one of those coaches is the same agent that he has. Who do you think is going to make that list? That is a problem in college sports. Look, in the NFL, those agents are capped at 3%. I think in the MLB, they are. In the NCAA, there's no cap. And these are kids that we're dealing with. These are young people. Pat, it's time for the NCAA to start putting some guardrails around all this money. They are ruining one of the best sports.
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Yes.
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In America. Okay? I mean, they. College football is the quintessential of football in America and there's no guardrails.
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I love that you are the Louisiana governor and you love college football. Feels like that should be a prerequisite. Feels like that probably should be in a lot of those states down there in the sec because, you know, it is different down there with how you're raised and the. Every place is a cult. I mean, that is just. That is literally how it is down there because there's no professional sports. What you were saying about the guardrails for all this money, you know, that is something that I think everybody that is involved with college football says, yes, we need that, we need that. But they all say D.C. needs to do something. You guys are saying the NCAA, but everybody that's in the sport says we need D.C. to put some federal ruling into this thing. If we actually wanted to make it work, will this be something that maybe Governor Jeff Landry maybe takes on and maybe, maybe, maybe takes on with the back pocket?
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Well, look, look, I'm hoping that we can create a contract with a great coach at LSU that can be the template. Maybe that's what needs to break in order for somebody to come over here and say, listen, we're going to start building contracts based on performance, based. I have problem compensating these coaches even at the level that we're talking about. As long as we're winning. The problem with the NCAA in Congress. Look, I've been in Congress. Look, politicians love to kick the can down the road. It makes me a little difference. I don't like it. I like to step on a can. I like to solve the problem. But maybe the NCAA Congress should hold a meeting and say, okay, who's in charge here? But the NCAA could absolutely. There's no reason that they cannot step in and create the guardrails. They've got great laws. They pay them a lot of money. Okay, look through the federal guidelines, look at what the Supreme Court says and come up with some guardrails. Somebody just has to step up.
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Yeah, somebody has to step on a can, you know, instead of cans, kind of going back and forth here. And if we know anything about both parties, just as somebody that's not been involved in D.C. or in the NCAA outside looking in, not a lot of hope in either of you, but hopefully that could be different. Hopefully that could be different. Governor Jeff Landrieu, we can hope that's the case. Last question here. You just talked about. You're not worried about paying a guy or a woman or a coach, whoever you hire an amount of money if they're winning? I would like to let you know, and you probably know this, the guy that did the Texas A and M deal, that agent over there, he reps a lot of coaches. He's got a lot of coaches. I think a couple of the coaches that you probably want down there, Baton Rouge, are going to be in there. When you say setting the Templar, what do you mean by that? Legitimately, what do you mean by that?
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Well, legitimately, we. I think that everyone is in agreement here in the state of Louisiana that the next coach that we hire is going to have a patently different contract. If that agent can't see what's coming down the pipe in a way that, look, these big name coaches, they're big names because they win. What are they afraid of? Right? If you're the best, you shouldn't have to worry. You say, guess what? I'm putting my reputation on the line and when I win, this is how much money I want. There's no guarantee to set the way the contracts are structured now. Tells the guy, listen, you know, in five years he might get Tired of doing. He's like, he doesn't have to worry about coaching because he's like, look, as long as I kind of go through the motions, I get another five years at $10 million a year, that's not a bad gig. Pat, if your boys over there are giving great entertainment to ESPN and we don't get to. We don't enjoy watching you, which we absolutely do, guess what happens? You lose sponsors. That's the free market.
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All right. I appreciate where your head's at.
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Yeah.
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I think you're up against it, though, Governor. I just want to let you know. I think you're up against it. I. I appreciate the fact that you're in a position, though, to potentially drive some change in all these things to sports world. Even better. But I think. I think it's a freight train that's already kind of been run away, Governor.
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Well, I know, I know. But, Pat, listen, every one of you all, okay, all of the sports commentators, everyone who's in sports, and even former coaches have been consistently saying this.
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And current, like, if it's a current coaches, too.
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Yeah.
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Yes, yes. Everybody saying, somebody's got to do it, though, Governor. Yeah, somebody needs to kick. Hey, somebody step on a can.
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Governor, step on the can.
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You're the man.
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We stepping on the can.
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Hey, we appreciate you joining us and explaining yourself a little bit more. It's crazy that the taxpayers, the state are on the hook for that contract if somebody doesn't pay it. I wonder how normal that is. That's insane to hear, actually. And I can see why the governor will be like, ho, ho, this guy. This guy ruins a Saturday in Baton Rouge. We lose the Texas A and M by 50. This guy ruins everybody lives. And then we got a up taxes who did the contract. Yeah, that is a. That is a hilarious turn of events. We appreciate you looking into it. Hopefully you can drive some change to make sure this sport that you're saying could potentially be getting ruined. Ratings are only up and to the right, Governor. Things are only getting better. Just the back end needs cleaned up. Good luck out there in your fight on that and everything else. And also Gator Hunt. Good luck out there with the Gator Hunt.
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I listen. Come on with us, Pat. Thank you so much. We love watching y', all, guys.
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You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Governor Jeff Lyon. Yeah, Governor, that guy's a character.
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Certainly.
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That guy is an absolute character. Yeah, he is just himself.
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Like, what he's saying, though, as you.
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See him, is how he is in every room that I've seen him, and Gumpy's seen him in a couple different rooms. We go down to lsu, obviously. And I say this again, anytime you can go somewhere with Coach Saban, you know, when he's maybe I don't want a national championship there, or six of them, sure, okay. Any of those types of things, and you can just kind of happen to just kind of sidecar that thing. You should do that. And we got to do that at lsu. You know, I met some of these people that are potentially gonna have to step up so taxpayers don't have to pay $53 million or whatever the case is, because Coach Saban, obviously old friends with a lot of the people there. It's where he. Before he goes to Alabama or before he goes to Miami, he's at lsu, wins a national championship there. And then the way they talk about Governor Jeff Landry, okay. Cause that was in the middle of having a live tiger on the sideline, okay? So that was a big conversation. Governor Jeff Landry with governor, then he was out. Then Governor Jeff Land back in. And then Governor Jeff Landry said, my childhood, some of my. My best moments with my family when. When that. What's the tiger's name?
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Mike.
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Mike. Mike. The tiger will roar every place, go crazy. I want a tiger back on the sideline. And they're like, well, we can't do that. Obviously, we got Mike outside the stadium in his own sanctuary. But inside the stadium, they said because of the loud and everything, they don't like, I want. We want a tiger, though. Let's get a tiger. And that was happening the week game day was going down there. So I literally just learned in this man's existence and also a governor just being like, I don't care. I want a live tiger. And then inevitably, live tiger was out there. Now, there was a full conversation about how many potential tigers there were, because there was protests happening that could have potentially stopped tigers from getting to sidelines. So I think there was potentially a situation happening. But Governor Jeff Landry, the people. People that I talk to in Louisiana, and I don't think it matters what the rest of the country thinks or anybody. The people that I talk to, they're talking about Jeff Landry, like, hey, Jeff's his own guy, but Jeff gets shit done. That is literally what Jeff does. And I think it takes a lot of pride in the state of Louisiana. You can hear the way he talks to hear the way he acts every single time he talks like that. And are we, as the rest of the world Gonna agree with everything that the governor of Louisiana has to say or how he operates. I would doubt it. Louisiana is its own country. Country. Okay. That is. They're not the only state. That's their own country. But Louisiana is. I mean, we purchased it. I only have to go back to the entirety of it all. But Louisiana is a special place. It is a dynamic place. It is a unique place. And it's like, I appreciate the fact that his big thing was like, we gotta pay for this guy as well.
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He.
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He taking his Mercedes back. I don't think so.
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Yeah. No consequences for the guy that hired him.
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Yeah.
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Or Jimbo.
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Yeah, exactly. Well, so we know the guy that represented Jimbo out there in Texas am, and we know that he doesn't represent Brian Kelly. No. And so whenever he was. Look it up. If I'm mistaken, this guy everywhere. And now this guy is everywhere. When they talk about Jimmy Sexton and representing a coach's business and, hey, who's going where and everything like that. But he just. There was a. There was a moment of clarity in there that had to be made. Like, hey, Jimmy Yang. Now, this guy, though, he also has got Nussmeier, I think allegedly the Trace. The Trace Armstrong. Yeah. So you're talking about.
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And that's what he.
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And the governor's reading through his contract. Who. Who negotiated? This guy got A.D. coach and quarterback. We're getting had. But also to his point when he.
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Said, like, he's not making the hire. He's responsible for the two biggest buyouts ever in college football history. The AD is.
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Yes. Woodward.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. Crazy stuff. All right, well, I'm excited to hear what people say he was wrong about in that conversation we just had. And then that goes right to what Jeopardy. Said last night, which I guess, you know, this all kind of came together within the last 25 minutes and we didn't piece it together. But I. I've had the incredible opportunity to do a lot of things. The boys and I have gotten an opportunity to be in some wild places. We made an appearance last night in a world that we're not supposed to be in. Please run it. Fox. More than a football player for 600. A former All Pro punter, he's had some controversial guests on his self named ESPN talk show. Aaron. It was McAfee. That's right. Thank you, Aaron. Hey, thank you, Aaron. Controversial guest. I think they were trying to say, hey, we don't love everything this show is about without completely burying me, you know, like the show. I think they were trying to balance that, we'd like to say to the Jeopardy. People, thank you for letting us in. Your award.
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Jeopardy.
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That's a huge deal. I shit my pants. Yeah, that was a big one.
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I get it.
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I got a text from somebody, Jeopardy. And I was like, man, I'm missing a nice show, dude. And they're like, no, you were on there. I'm like, what? It was. That's a wild memory for us, dude. That is. And then we just have the governor of Louisiana and he goes, we didn't start fixing this. The NCAA can do this. How? I don't know. I don't know if they can.
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F
No, I just, I remember like we had Charlie Baker in like maybe a little over a year ago in studio and like you said, like that was his whole thing. He was like, yeah, we kind of need the government to spearhead this. Like, we can't do this. So it seems like like you said, the NCAA and you know, D.C. are kind of just pointing at each other saying, hey, you guys need to fix it and you need to fix it now. So I don't know if it's going to get done anytime soon.
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A
I, I have no idea either. But good luck to all parties. It's a lot to get figured out.
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D
Yeah, you got this.
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A
Got TV contracts, you got coaches contracts, you got every. I mean, players contracts. Now you got billions and billions and billions of dollars, let alone the hundreds and thousands of tickets that are just sold in some places. I mean, it's so much. Such a massive entity. Such a massive entity. Just be like, we can corral it, let alone when you start tossing in all the other basketball. Yeah, yeah. Women's softball down there in SEC and I guess Big 12. Right, because. Yeah, yeah, the whole thing. So. And then you start thinking about these sports, like where some of the teams make a lot of money, some of the other teams don't make a lot of money. How do you kind of corral that? Yeah, how do you corral all of it? Governor Jeff Lenny Andrew got that. He's gonna step on that canyon kicking that thing down the road. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who just secured another bag via Pete Thammell's tweet. There's some breaking news out of the college football world. Nebraska coach Matt Rule signed a two year contract extension this morning which will take him through the 2032 season. Includes a 15 million dollar buyout this year that effectively eliminates in this coaching cycle. Interesting wording for Pete there. But joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, the Head coach of Nebraska, manager signed to your extension this morning, Matt Rule. Hey, Coach.
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H
Sup, fellas?
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A
Congratulations. I know, obviously not the best outcome. We don't want that. We want to win by 100 every single time. But congratulations on an extension with Nebraska. How'd we get to this point? How long has this been in the works? And congrats. You watched us read Pete Thamel's tweet. I don't think he was as celebratory as he should be. Congratulation, bro. They ran your ass out of Carolina, bro. Signing a new deal in Nebraska. Congratulations.
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H
No, thank you very much. Yeah, I mean, I. We were on two, I think two weeks ago and we talked about it and I just, you know, I told you guys how much we love it here, you know, and to me, there's lots of great jobs, but very, very rarely in this business do you find a home. And we felt like Nebraska is our home. This program's our home. I love these players. I love this place. Rad. Troy Dannon has been amazing to me. Our president, Dr. Gold. And I mean, it's just the alignment. I mean, you see, you see places that don't have alignment. We got amazing alignment and we're building. And so I think after about week three, you know, Troy started talking to me about it and I just was like, hey, I just got to focus on football, but I appreciate it. They're betting on the future and we're doubling down.
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A
Congrats, man. That's very cool to hear.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You've been this way about Nebraska since you got there. I think you were very excited. There was other jobs that you could have had and you also could have just become a professional golfer. Like some fired coaches have the past and collected the check in it all. I'm excited that you're back in a place that you absolutely love. Over there in Nebraska, fresh off beating Northwestern. Congrats on a big time win. Obviously, Northwestern had been shocking. A lot of people got James Franklin's ass fired up there in Penn State. Now you have huge game, obviously. USC at home, 7:30 on NBC. What's the mindset as you look down the last four games here, which are all pretty big down the stretch for your Nebraska cornhost.
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E
Yeah.
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H
I think the thing that our team has learned, you know, and I think we unfortunately learned it the hard way at Minnesota and then, you know, is like, hey, parodies here at college football, like in the NFL, you know, if you have a winning record, you're probably going to make the playoffs. We're pretty close, but you don't, you know, nine, nine and nine and eight is a good season. Ten and seven is a good season. Perry's in college football. I mean, look, look at the teams are in the top 10 that weren't there years ago. So every single week you got to show up and play. I mean, you know, the days of beating people 45, some people are doing it, but not. I mean, I'm watching Texas the other night come back to win. I'm watching Alabama come back to win. It's just you got to show up every single week. And so we have four chances left. And this Saturday, you know, obviously it's amazing opportunity for us to play a great usc team that's 5 and 2 and, and they're probably the best offense I think I've ever seen. So it'll be, it'll be a lot of fun.
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A
You talk about the offense. I mean, you're talking about a one man Lincoln Riley. Go ahead, con man.
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D
Yeah, coach, how's your relationship with Lincoln Riley? I believe you guys go back to the Baylor OU and you might have played a few times. I am not 100% sure about that. Just like most things, but how do you approach an offense like that? Do you go back and look at all the games, you know, he called both at Oklahoma and, you know, with Caleb Williams and things of that nature. And how are you feeling, you know, going up against a guy that was such an offensive guru for so many years?
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A
Yeah, I think he's brilliant.
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H
I think he's a great guy. He was the offensive coordinator at East Carolina when I was at Temple as the head coach. So, I mean, going all the way back to. They hit a great offense in East Carolina, then obviously at OU and Baylor. So I had a chance to go against him there and I think he's one of the best offensive minds in football. And he does it so many different ways. You know, he, he played one way with Baker. The next year he had Kyler Murray played a different way the next year he had Jalen Hurts and revamped his offense. But at the end of the day, he always scores points. They run the football. And so, you know, for us there's, there's no, there's no secret formula. We got to play well. We're going to have to play well on offense, defense. We've been playing great on special teams. We have to keep that up and you'll get to the fourth quarter. Hopefully it's, you know, in the 20s, it's freezing cold Here Saturday night and get to the. Get to the fourth quarter and be ready to just go make one more play.
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A
It does feel like it's starting to become Big ten weather time. You know, it's raining this morning. The leaves are falling. You know, we've had these beautiful, majestic, orange pink leaves like, the last two weeks or so. It has been great this morning. Rain, wind, goodbye, bare ash trees. Terrible weather coming. Is it like that in Nebraska right now as well?
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H
Oh, yeah. You know, so I wear shorts every day, Pat. And we don't. I don't use the indoor. And if I ever can't handle the cold, I'm like, all right, guys, let's go in the indoor. So that's like, my barometer. And yesterday, it was so cold yesterday that I walked over to Holgerson. I was like, dana, do you want to go inside? And he said, no, I love it out here. I was like, oh, my gosh. I mean, it was debilitatingly cold and windy. So, you know, but that's. Again, you've heard me complain, like, that's football. Like, it wasn't meant to be played all the time. Every game wasn't meant to be played indoors or in the sun. Like, you got to deal with this. And so I'm. I'm fired up to be in this type of weather.
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A
Now, Dana, you want to go inside or no? No, this is good.
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H
He let me down.
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A
D.C. d.C. Said same thing, man. Everybody. I just asked Dylan, I said, dylan, you want to go inside? He said, no. I'm like, what is your guy's problem? What is your problem? It's freezing cold out here Saturday during the day, 47 degree nighttime, 31 winds, light and variable. Good for kickers. Don't know where the hell they're coming from. Don't worry about it. And then, obviously, 81% humidity is going to make it a little chill. Yeah, that's going to make a little bit of a sting on the face there whenever we talk about below freezing. Congratulations to you guys getting USC in Nebraska in that weather. Tone has a question for you.
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C
Yeah, Coach, I don't mean to go back to the loss to Minnesota, but Coach Saban always talks to us on this show about teams that. That like his team specifically, and then other teams that this year needed to lose. After you. After that loss to Minnesota, was that something that was needed for your guys? And what was the message after that?
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H
Yeah, I mean, honestly, I was pissed off after that game because I felt like. I think PJ Flex, a great coach I think he has got, he's got eight years there, wherever he's been there. Eight, nine years of establishing a culture. And I felt like as a team, we did not respect the process and how hard that game was going to be. And so it's, so it's, it's 76 at halftime and we're in the locker room, like, despondent, and I'm like, what's wrong with you guys? Like, you know, this is what football's like. And so I thought we had to come. I didn't want to lose, but we came out of that loss. And then they bullied us in the fourth quarter. And they were very receptive to the message on Sunday and Monday. Like, hey, every game's going to be hard. We're going to have to battle every single game. Get to the fourth quarter. So we go in at halftime this week and it's 76 again. Now we're up this time, 7 6. But I walked in the locker room like, who are you going to be in the second half? And we got a 15 point lead. They came back, tied it up and we go down and win the game at the end. And that's the type of team that you need in college football now. Resilient, humble, because it's just travel. There's weather, there's good teams, there's nil, there's parody. You better battle every single week. And I wasn't happy after Minnesota at all.
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A
Okay. Everything's still in front of you though, right? You're telling your team, obviously. Now let's look at the final four games. Usc, if you're able to get away, you will be able to get a win. We're talking to the head coach on the team. That would be obviously huge. Ucla, obviously a win, you would like to have that be a good win. But they have been playing good ball as well. Penn State, obviously, before the season looks different than it does now. And if Iowa next week is to beat Oregon, that game at the end of the year, obviously pretty gigantic. You go back to your first game of the season. Cincinnati's become a very, very, very big team. It's like all of a sudden everything literally still in front of you. Coach rule, right? That's the angle, at least. That's the. You're seeing the same thing I'm seeing.
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H
Absolutely. I mean, you know, our, our whole goal as a program is to come down to this time of year, get to November and be relevant, you know, be chasing, getting into the playoff, be chasing all these things and so, you know, USC has that same hope. Iowa has that same hope. They're both at 5 and 2 and 6 and 2. And that's, that's the parody of the Big Ten. And so, so, you know, to your point, like we beat Cincinnati and they're, they're a highly ranked team. I mean, we've had some good moments, but it's all about what you do in November, you know, better than anybody else. Right. Like, so all that stuff got you ready for this point. Everything's in front of you now. Go play great football. And this is an unbelievable challenge this week versus a great team. And we'll be ready for it.
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A
Still being in it is a great thing, brother. Ty has a question for you. Iowa. Hawkeye, obviously.
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F
Yeah, speaking of all that, Coach, how much has it changed in terms of like the coaching staff's mentality, your mentality, and the players with the new 12 team playoff? Because like you said, I mean, obviously after the Minnesota loss, you know, things change a little bit, but you guys do still have everything ahead of you. Whereas, you know, maybe a couple years ago when you were at Baylor or whatever, if you have two losses at this point, you know, you're, you're eliminated, you're not going anywhere. Like, how has that changed? Maybe how you approach things philosophically and, and also how the team just kind of approaches the game week in, week out.
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A
Out.
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H
Yeah, I think there's a good and a bad to it. Right. Like you see, you've seen a lot of teams in college football, like, they lose that second game and all of a sudden they go on a four game, you know, skid, because they're like, well, the season's over, you know, you know, our approach has been get better and better and better and play our best football in November, play our best football in December. Like, hey, that's, we're training the guys to go be pro football players. That's how it's going to be at the next level. And that's how college football's become. You know, I was on the Penn State football team in 1994 that, that went undefeated, won the Rose bowl, beat Oregon 38, 6 and didn't win a national championship. The national championship we said came here to Nebraska and that was a really different world back then. And then at BAYLOR, we finished 11 1. We go to the conference championship game against Oklahoma, we lose in overtime, and we don't get to go to the playoff. So it's, it's the access, I think, has made football much more enjoyable and Fun to watch coming down the stretch here because there's so many teams that are still alive. You just got to play your way in. And we're going to fight to play our way in.
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A
You got a nice black long sleeve shirt on there. I got a black henley on here. And I just saw on social media the boys are going, oh, black ops this weekend. I like that. What is the thought and what is this going to look like in your state? Are we going blackout in the crowd too?
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H
Yes, we're going to, the crowd's going to black out. It's great. We want to do it. We want to do it. The players wanted to do it, the recruits wanted to do it. And we kind of felt early on, hey, this will be a night game. I, I, I think blackouts look great at night, obviously. And so there's no, there's nothing better in the world than a night game in Lincoln, Nebraska, except for maybe a blackout late night game in Lincoln, Nebraska. We're going to, we're going to, we're going to go out there, we're going to throw the uniforms on. I think it's going to be electric and it's going to be a great football game. So it's, it's something we planned in the preseason and obviously the game has some real merit now, so it'll be fun.
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A
Okay, so you don't have to give anything away. Do not feel obligated to answer this, but is there a man that was wearing jeans and a black T shirt next to a guy wearing six different costumes this morning on get up giving maybe a speech on your jumbotron?
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H
Oh, I, I bet he better be on the jumbotron. You know, I mean, like, we need, we need, we need Willie C. To come through big for us this game. It's going to take everybody. I got Tommy Frazier going out to be the honorary captain. I mean, this is, this is a big, this is a, this is a fun big moment for Nebraska to be, to be playing a game in November on national tv. And it's not because of the other team. It's because of us and the other team. And so we're fired up about it and we're calling on all the, we're calling all the, all the greats, biggest.
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A
Game in the rule Nebraska era happening this weekend. We appreciate you taking time, brother. Enjoy the hell out of it all. Halloween. Best candy. Best candy. Oof, oof, oof. Think about it.
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H
Oh my God. Butterfinger.
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A
Wow.
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F
Wow.
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A
What were you battling with? What were you battling with there well.
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H
Because I hate to admit my daughters have those nerd clusters things that came out with.
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A
No, don't hate them. I'm a chocolate guy as well. I'm a chocolate guy as well. Yeah, it's hard to admit that the little candies are pretty good. Those are unbelievable.
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H
They're amazing. Amazing, amazing.
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A
Too many, huh? You have it a lot.
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H
Well, I mean, I'm just. All I'm saying is like, I mean, I've tried to lose all this weight. We get the Halloween week. I've been on a bender since like Monday. We do like a Julie does, like a trunk or treat for all the coaches kids. And I've just been eating candy non stop.
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A
Yeah, you're supposed to, though. Supposed to. Hey, this is part of it. Yeah. You're supposed to live a little. Yeah. Don't worry about your butterfinger. Nerd clusters. Reese's Oreos exist. Yeah, I mean, you do whatever the hell you need to do over there, you've earned it.
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H
Okay. I feel good about that. Thank you. My first time being in shape at this, so I'm not used to the rules, so thank you.
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A
Well, that's interesting. So I'm also a guy that easy come, easy go with the weight. You know, like 70 pound weight spins for me throughout entire years are very possible with how much I like to eat and how much I enjoy eating. You probably understand where I'm coming from when I say this. You just got to make sure after this week you have the ability to stop. See, that's the issue with us fatsos. You know, us fatsos would say, you know what, we'll do the Halloween week week, and then we'll feel like such in fatsos will stop immediately after. And guess what we we do right there on Saturday when November comes? Well, we gotta eat what we had last week and then Sunday and then on Monday, you think to yourself, I just ate like all last week. I might as well get yummy, get some fried.
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C
Well, then we're two weeks away from Thanksgiving, so we might as well just wait till after Chris. We'll start the new year.
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A
Okay, so we're putting a red light. We're putting a red light after Halloween. Okay? That's what we're all doing here.
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H
Thank you.
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F
Done.
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H
I'm in.
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A
All right, I'll send a text. Accountability buddies. There you go. Kind of bill buddies here, ladies and gentlemen. That's coach Matt. Congrats on new deal coach. That was cool of them to announce that five minutes before he comes on. Certainly legit. That Was certainly on purpose. Yep, yep. And we are very, very, very thankful for that. Cuz he usually says what do you need? When do you need us? Is normally his conversation. And this time they're like hey, how about 12:30, is that okay? It's like yeah, no problem at all actually. And then 1225, Pete Thamel pops up into our feed. Matt Rule just signed a new deal that maybe limits him from possibly not leaving. What was that?
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F
I don't know. That was.
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A
What was it? I don't think I.
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C
You would, you would think just announcing the extension would kind of get across that, hey, I'm not leaving this coaching cycle.
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A
Source says Nebraska coach Matt Rules signed a two year contract extension this morning which will take him through 2032 season 70 years from now. It includes a $15 million buyout. We're listening to Brian Kelly's $53 million buy right now. $15 million buyout this year. That effectively eliminates him from any jobs in this coaching cycle. Okay, it effectively does, but not definitely.
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F
This is college football. Anything can happen.
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A
Please call Pete. Daniel. Yeah, I didn't know why worded it that way. We certainly need that.
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F
Nebraska's not off the hook here yet.
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A
15 million. We see some of these billionaires chew that.
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C
It could turn into a quack.
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A
Quite a quag bar. This could be quite. Yeah, wording is quite a sticky situation is potentially what he's going to say.
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F
Yeah, he might say all of that verbatim.
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A
Okay, let's give actual predictions on what Pete Thamill says here. I'm going to say he's going to say something about if you read the fine print of the contract, it's not necessarily a guarantee that he's not going to be exploring other options this office. It's just whether or not that's why I think the angle. What do you think the angle is going to be?
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F
Probably something along the lines of. Well, you mentioned these billionaires, Pat. $15 million, if I'm not mistaken. Doesn't Warren Buffett live in Omaha? That's a stone's throw away from Lincoln if they decide they want to move on.
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A
Connor, what do you think Pete Tamil says?
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D
I think he's going to be quite gobsmacked that they got this done in the middle of the year and it was only a two year extension.
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A
Okay. We just connected with him. I was just cold facetiming him as well because we called him in the back, he did not answer. He's probably got so many other things happening because everybody that saw that is doing exactly what we're doing. Correct. But it's not just idiots that are live on tv. It's like other coaches that are looking for things, agents are potentially looking for stuff. Schools are thinking of things. I mean there's, ladies and gentlemen, the authority on college football, the man that just broke the potential news that Matt Rule is out of the coaching cycle. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete Dammel. Hello, Pete.
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D
Love glasses.
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A
Pete. Hi Pat, how are you? I'm fantastic. Thank you for doing that news break about coach Matt Rule literally three minutes before he came on our show. That was awesome. Awesome. I was reading your tweet for the first time live on air. Found the wording to be very interesting. Nebraska coach Matt Rule signed a two year contract extension this morning which will take him through 2032 season at seven years from now. It includes a $15 million buyout this year. That effectively eliminates him from any jobs in his coaching cycles. So this effectively eliminates him. Mean, definitely eliminates him. Or do you think he's still potentially dancing around this offense season?
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E
No dancing, Pat. No dancing. Effectively eliminates is just a phrase for Ty to repeat in my voice. I think it would have with a little bit of flair. So you can't ever deal in absolutes in the carousel. But Matt Rule is staying and this is a, this is a, this is a clear searing sign that Matt Rule is, is, is going to be at Nebraska. And, and really, let's, let's just be blunt, not go to Penn State where, you know, his closest friend is the athletic director. He's a graduate of there and you know, they were obviously heavily linked since that job opened. So no, Matt Rule is going to be a hu. I was told Pat by sources this is a sign of Matt Rose family loves it in Lincoln. They love Nebraska and Matt Rowe believes that you can win big at that place and this is a tangible sign of that.
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A
Every week he joins us, there's some massive 8k LED board behind. I mean it is the way he describes it is they're all in. I'm happy to hear that he's all in as well. Congrats to Matt Rule on a new deal. Let's talk about those coaching opens vacancy. Who's going to go to all these places? Dude, like I know Lane Kiffin's name's obviously up there, but what if he wants to stay at Ole Miss because of how good they are currently at Ole Miss? Is this just going to be a reshuffling of these coaches? There's going to be young Names. Who do you think is going to take all these jobs that everybody is calling highly sought after jobs? Signetti signs a $93 million deal. Matt Rule signs a deal through 2032. Obviously there's going to be other moves made, like who's going to take all these jobs, Pete? Is it these guys that just got fired going to other places?
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E
Yeah, I think, Pat, one of the interesting nuances of today is that, and you mentioned Kurt Signetti. We're seeing the unintended consequences of all these early firings. We have never had eight power jobs open before Halloween. Right. So now you're giving the schools ample time and ammo to sign these guys up at a deal. Whereas if you make this move around Thanksgiving, the schools probably aren't as proactive if they don't know the competition is looming. So it's an interesting wrinkle. Like what will Vanderbilt do with Clark Lee? I think that's a really interesting question. Right. Like he's obviously. We were just there last week, Pat, for game day. He has them, you know, as hot as they've been since Grantlin Rice was a student at Vanderbilt. Right. So, yeah, I think that's really interesting. But your point, Pat, is really, really a salient one. There are a lot of jobs open and the kind of coaches you fire your coach for are starting to disappear from the board. There's only three championship coaches sitting in college football right now. They're not going anywhere. And if you're doing what Penn State did, if you're doing what LSU did, you are going to, you know, you are aiming for a national championship. And there are a couple names off the board right now who, who are, you know, some of the better names to go do that. So I heard you had Jeff Landry on the show today, Pat. My phone started to blow up when I landed at the airport in Salt Lake. How'd that go?
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A
Okay, so, yeah, it's Governor Jeff Landry, first of all, excus. And by the way, program. He appoints the commission of the committee. The. He appoints the region. No, that's Texas.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Board of supervisor. Board of supervisor. It is my people running that and it ain't gonna be all people paying that bill. Okay, so we ain't doing that again is basically what he said. He explained. Now, he didn't know that maybe Jimbo and Brian Kelly and Scott Woodward have different agents. Okay. So. So that obviously Big Deluxe wanted to make sure we got that kind of clarity through that conversation and all, but he was very much open about how like, hey, this is going to become, he's going to be trying to put incentive based contracts in for these coaches going forward. That, that is what he was saying. Basically. It's like, if you're good, you're going to win. What are you scared about me? Is what he said verbatim, what he said in this entire thing. What do you think the reality is of the shift of that potentially happening going for? Because I tried to tell governor and listen Governor Jeff Landry, he's obviously more in and old than I am about this particular situation, but I try to tell him like, hey, this is a freight train that's already gone, brother. He talked about how the NCAA needs to be the ones to fix it. And we, I told him, hey, the NCAA saying you guys need to be the ones that are fixing it. And he goes, oh well, the NCAA needs redo. They need to sec. So it feels like, you know, there we are maybe meeting a melting pot at some point or a, a, a burning boiling point. There it is a boiling point at some point here with all this. But what are your thoughts on it and what do you think the reality of changes in all of it, Pete? I guess that's a pretty open ender for you.
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E
Yeah, no, I appreciate it, Pat. It's, it's, it's a pretty hilarious. We could call it a vexing conundrum. Right? You have a job without a school president. You have cut the knees off the athletic director. Right, who's not going to hire the coach. So you need a coach desperately to fulfill championship expectations. But now with no president and an AD who you've cut his knees out off, you want him to come without a lot of guaranteed money. That seems to me to, to, to be a bit of a contrast in thinking. Right, because. And you've compressed the market too by scaring some coaches off and then obviously, you know, prompting an economic stimulus to get some sign they shouldn't escape. I think Governor, Governor Landry is likely not helping LSU find a better coach.
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A
Oh, what do you, you gotta start looking at the agents with Pete. Now. There's one guy breaking all the news. There's one guy breaking all the news. I don't know how many sports insiders here. None. There's only one named Pete Dmel. Who do you think he's got? Somebody's in he pockets? I'll get to the bottom of it. Yeah, Jeff Landry is, I mean, Governor Jeff Landry, sorry, sir, is just awesome. Because he does, I assume, speak like how a lot of people and his thoughts are exactly how a lot of people feel, especially, Especially in the state of Louisiana. And for us, it's just like, hey, how do you fix it all, brother? I don't know how you. Because it's not just there's a lot. He would have been an incredible football coach. I could imagine he thought. But, yeah, I, I, but it's nice to know there's a governor now that's potentially on the side of, like, let's try to fix what college football is as a whole, because how much they love it. Now, I'm not saying he can do it alone, but if more we kind of figure this out, we'll continue the incredible growth of the number two sport in the United States of America, college football, who only has one in that we officially know the authority. Pete Hamill. We appreciate you. There's some. Hey, hold on, Pete. Hold on, Pete.
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C
Pete.
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E
Yeah.
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A
Yes, I just saw a tweet the Connor Stallion story, Jess.
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E
Oh, yes, that is. That came down today. The NCAA made a ruling on the Central Michigan facet of that case. If you recall, Connor Stallions went in disguise with, remember the sunglasses that allegedly had the videotaping component on the side. That was, that was one of the more fun R. Nichols during that very fun time, Pat. I, I can't stress how much fun that was that whole case. I do think, seriously, though, like, you guys, we've had some fun with Connor Stein's in the case. There's a handful of coaches whose, like, careers are over because of this small college guys at Central Michigan. They got show causes for multiple years. Jay Costner is one of them and, you know, for getting wrapped up in that scheme. And I like my, my general thought on that. You know, Jim McWain's retired. He gets a show. Cause who cares? You got a bunch of coaches who, who got wrapped up in that scheme. Whose, whose careers are at least now, if not, you know, significantly altered because of this. So it was. I feel bad for those guys.
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There's always, you know, people on the other side of like, what how the hell story that are just living in the bullshit world that has been caused because of it all. So obviously we send our positive thoughts that shouldn't be cheating. All right. We appreciate the hell out of you. You're the man. I know that was a lot of fun for you throughout the time of. It feels like it's completely wrapped up now. Let's move forward.
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E
We've pulled up at BYU here, Pat, so thank you. My Uber drivers giving me some funny Looks o.
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A
Sounds good. Tell him, hey, Mormon's supposed to be nice. I thought he was thankful to be out there.
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E
Very patient. He's been very patient with me.
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You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete D. Thank you. Yeah, Pete, obviously, if we're in Utah.
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F
Got a swing by Vexing Kalani Shitake. You know, she would huge up too.
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I say hello. Big oosh. Good to see you. Yes. Could you imagine Pete dressed like that? Goes what up oo to coach.
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H
I can't.
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F
Please.
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C
They have the number one college basketball player in the country too, in there.
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D
Oh, he's so good.
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Ryan Smith.
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C
Oh, yeah.
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Okay, this is what we're talking about. And this is what Governor Jeff Lang. I got. I guess a couple billionaires could come in. I can't believe he was on our show today. That was so awesome.
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C
It's been long overdue.
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A
You know what? Governor Jeff Landry down there. Radio roll down there in New Orleans. He was standing there. We didn't even get a chance to sit by him because we didn't even.
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C
Say g one time.
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A
I did. I said gate 100. He did not say gate 100. Yeah, correct.
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D
Said you got to come down now.
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You got to come down hunt now. Yeah. What a hilarious person. Just all of it. Just. Just all of it is hilarious. I think you have to be though, probably to get into the politics world now. You could just be a robot. I guess I see a lot of that. I thought in the politics world. He had talk like. I thought that was like one of.
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C
The things like your back, but you're like 40, 45 that you're in it. I think you just sit there like a mummy.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Oh, do you think that's cuz you can't actually speak. Speak.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Okay. I didn't even think about that. When you see these.
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D
Yeah. Pump list.
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A
It's not just them, by the way. It's other television.
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C
I think a lot of them don't remember what they said and then they want to go the other way and then they know that clip will be pulled. So then they can't say anything at all.
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D
And they don't.
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A
Good luck out there, politicians. Thanks for doing it.
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That's right.
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A
Thanks. You guys did a good job. Actually. I think right now actually terrible. Right. Because it's not working. I don't think that any of them.
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C
Are working right now.
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F
Yeah.
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A
So you guys aren't doing anything shut down. I don't know the ins and outs of it, but I hope you enjoy your vacation.
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C
What is probably more Watching us now than ever since they're sitting home. Nothing to do.
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A
Let us tell you what to do, okay? We've been saying this for a long time. You guys need a scoreboard over there, okay? In sports, we have a scoreboard. So then we know, okay, who's winning and who's losing.
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D
Yep.
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A
Now the issue with you guys, I think it's tough to know what a point is because somehow I've heard some people talk and there'll be somebody tells me, massive loss for this person. This person will then pop on tv, look at me. So I don't know if there is a scoring system that you guys have over there, but in our world of sports there's scores. So then you can, you can say, oh, the one that won more probably should be the one that we maybe listen to or try to follow. Luke. Losers normally fade out in our world. It's called meritocracy. You guys should think about doing that in the government world, politics world. And we like to wish you luck in figuring that out. And we'd also like to wish Governor Jeff Landry luck on trying to make a, what was his name? Incredible pot smoker, greatest of all time, Ricky Williams. Yeah, a Ricky Williams, like dealing with for a coach is what it sounds like is potentially happening. That also was with the Saints, if you do recall. It was, it was with the Saints when Ricky Williams and Master P, I do believe, negotiated a deal that was very incentive based and incentive laden. And obviously incentives are good. But I think at this stage of where everybody else's contract is at, I think it's gonna be tough for governor to get that one in there. But hey, if anybody could do it. Governor Jeff Landry.
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D
Amen.
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It's fine.
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I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice cold Dr. Pepper. Mmm. Those 23 flavors are like so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of your college football team taking a big fat L. College football. It's a Pepper thing.
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B
Football.
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A
I forgot to say, it's spooky Thunderdome that you see. True.
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F
Yeah.
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A
Okay. You see big Skelly. Okay. Turns out we had one of these all along. This is the exact Skelly skeleton. Two of them that were in AQ Shipley's front yard, then were ripped out of his front yard at 12:14am by a bunch of shirtless Caucasian hooligans.
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B
Yep.
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And yesterday we talked about it on the program alongside J.J. watt. Word got back to the hooligans and all of a sudden, guess what was returned yesterday?
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D
What?
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A
Yeah, but here's in the middle of the first inning of a U ball game yesterday, AQ Shipley drifted away from the court on the phone in a sense of urgent and comes back with this announcement. Skeleton is being returned. We're obviously incredibly happy for aq. That was a splashy splash. I would go on to hit a few more after that, which is obviously perfect timing, but it was big news. Or not only around Arizona, but the United States of America when Halloween was saved for the Shipley family as these boys cause recognized a fault. Returned to the home, scene of the crime, if you will. Built it back up what I've been told.
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D
Okay.
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A
And then under the order of those who were there, 50 push ups while chanting things. Different messages.
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D
Love that.
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A
Yes. So there was a little bit of it wasn't full fist to face, boot to ass.
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G
Okay.
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A
But I do believe there was some example, at least some. Yeah. An example of now, would these kids have gotten arrested maybe any other house in the United States of America if they just walked back with that thing? Probably. But we talked AQ Shipley into it, remember? First hour he was not about it. No, man, they bring it back good. Yeah, they come back good. That's when I can actually punch him in the face. Then by the third hour, whenever we talk to him like, hey, these boys bring back Skelly. Your Kid's favorite decorate. We can certainly get this thing back. Yeah, that's true. We can do that. And then he acknowledged these boys made a mistake and they owned up to it. Halloween is back on at the Shipley house.
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B
What it is.
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This is good.
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F
Yeah, Amazing.
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A
This is great news. Honestly, this is brilliant. News is the world. I don't know. Talks to table here at Boston. Connor at Ty Schmidt, one half of the Hammer. Don, Cowboys, Luigi, Tony, Giulio. You look unbelievable.
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D
Thank you.
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C
I appreciate that.
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A
Shout out to jc. Got that thing toxic. Especially with that cowboy hat. You look really. How do you do? You look super.
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B
How do you.
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A
How do you hair look good too. I don't know if camera angle. Got it. Yeah. Hair's flowing right? Yeah. Ton feels like a young 22 year old Pisano.
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C
Oh, sure.
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A
With this mustache rolling around, Cat looks super cool as well. Happy Halloween to you.
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C
Happy Halloween to you.
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A
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion super bowl champion Rider cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. hawke. Yeah, Hawk around there. If you notice this, we maybe just had the best first hour of our show in the history. Okay.
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I
I was, I was watching as a fan. It was very fun. Governor Jeff Landry always, always entertains that guy.
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A
Yeah.
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I
What a tree. He's stepping on the can right now.
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A
We know that during the break, I found out that Ryan Clark was on television earlier today. Not happy with the governor. I did not. I would like to let everybody know that I did not. I legitimately did not know that. I did not see it, but I legitimately had some questions on shit that he said. And I feel like because of what happened during the super bowl where we got to meet him, chat with him, and then whenever game day was down in lsu, I got a chance to meet the people around him and chat with him a little bit. We threw a Hail Mary. We're like, to hell with it. Let's go and see if we can get this guy to clarify some things. Like 15 minutes before show starts. It's like, let's see, let's go. Don't we have a connection? I think we do, right? Don't they know us a little bit? We talked to his people. Didn't we talk to his people? His people know us, right? Yep. Send it down there. Immediate response responses. The governor's got some things scheduled, but we will see. Look, we call you back. It's like, you got it, you got it. And then allegedly, Governor Jeff Landry was like, thankful for the opportunity to explain a little bit, but also Was not looking for the moment. Like, I saw a couple people down in Louisiana. I saw one blogger at least post like the governor with a quote. It is not. I'm not gonna be the one picking the next head coach, but a group that is appointed to by me and loyal to me will be the ones that be making the selection. And. And then he did kind of say that, but then the guy afterwards said, and don't look now I'm on a nationally televised podcast show saying this. It's definitely not me. So I just wanted to clarify. We asked him. It wasn't like he said, hey, can I get out and do some more talking about football. We remember that we potentially had a connection with him and sent the thing, if that makes sense. A.J. i just want to clarify all that shit.
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I
No, yeah, he's not on a press junket. When you see these people promoting movies and they do 50 shows in one day, he's not doing that. I'm sure he has some other stuff to hit handle. But it is pretty interesting the fact that how involved I guess he is in the, you know, not only the firing, but the new. The new search, I guess.
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A
Well, he said that that's like that in most states, I think, because all these schools are, you know, the highest paid state employee, I think in every state, but maybe two of them is the head coach of the state university. And then it never really gets talked about though, like, hey, this is pretty. That's a state employee there. That never really gets talked about in the entirety of the contracts and conversations. And then Jeff Landry, he says, taxpayer got to pay 53. I don't think so. I mean, where's that money? We got roads. We like to raise prices. And they're raising prices on Friday. Yeah, right. Who's doing this? I don't think so. So I think that is why he did what he did at the press conference. And he's getting involved a little bit more louder. But ultimately he said he wants put gall rails on college sports.
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I
I heard that.
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A
And it's like, hell yeah, governor. And then I told him, hey, the NCAA thinks you guys need to be doing that so they. They can operate. He goes, oh, yeah. I mean, I have Congress long time. What they like do kick can down road. I like step on the can, you know, I like get things done. But the ncaa, he goes, they can certainly within the guidelines of the rules, they can certainly take care of this. And I call on them to do it. I'm like, that's exactly what Governor, that's what Governor? That's what they said. So now we're kind of, you know, so the entire time back half of that conversation with him, I was trying to motivate him to like actually try to take this on. Like, hey, somebody's going to have to take this on. You're signing up for a lot of work though, aj.
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C
Yeah.
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I
You, you let him know. I feel like you told him, like, well, I think you're up against it. Like, I think it's the tough uphill battle, no question. But you are the guy for the job. But it's true. Like, how does it even start? When they mentioned guardrails, where does it even start? What's the first thing to happen?
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A
70. What million buyout for Jimbo, different agent, 53 million here. I mean, we're doing the NFL right now. I mean, we just looked at Miles Garrett, you know, because our show and some others just certainly broadcast like, hey, Miles Garrett spiking his helmet after getting five sacks. He's already said he wanted to be out there. And then Connor's like, who has a lot of money and who, who has a lot of opportunity and maybe didn't know they were going to be in this good a position. Holy. Miles Garrett's coming to the New England Patriots. And he didn't. He's not the only person that was saying that. There's other people that were certainly saying it. And then immediately as that conversation is happening or ending on our show, Schefter gets a text, we'd assume from somebody pretty high up, if I had to guess, you go, there's no chance of that happening. Okay, there's no chance that happened. And we, we go, why? Why is there no chance of that? And then they mentioned there's like $60 million in dead cap, which is exactly what this buyout money is for these state run universities. It's like these types of deals have been happening in sports, sports for a long time, let alone the university is trying to woo coaches because there's only a certain amount of coaches that are good. How do you woo anybody in any business is like, well, guarantees. And you can do this amount of control, amount of leverage, amount of guarantees. So I think he is up against it and I don't know if now is a good time to be up against it. Especially with the 12 team playoff and all the opportunity that there is in college sports. It's like, how do you navigate that? If we know anything about governor Jeff Landry, he gonna get that taco on the field. So he he gonna get that tackle on the field. So I. I think he's gonna sort it out. But I will be intrigued to see what this contract inevitably ends up being with whatever coach that comes down there. And what coach ends up taking the deal, you know, A.J.
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I
Yeah. Let's see if they can. Are. Are they gonna, like, change the mold on hiring and what contracts may look like moving forward? Obviously, they're lsu. They're different than. There's different tiers to the.
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G
The.
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I
The jobs out there. But is he going to change things?
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A
I think he said we're gonna template. Right. Didn't he say something?
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F
He did say that.
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A
He said others will see our template that we said here, but. Awesome.
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F
His template recommendation was basically like, put your reputation on the line. You win, you get paid. You don't.
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A
And ufl, baby. Yeah.
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F
I don't know how many coaches are signing up for that, but hey, basically.
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C
Say you get a million dollars per win each year.
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A
How about this? 5 million from our taxpayers here, Louisiana. We will say thank you with $5 million every win this that you have. Good luck out there. What if it's the biggest contract in the history.
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D
Could.
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A
If you win biggest contract in history, like some young.
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I
Some young hotshot kid takes a chance on himself and they give him a job and. Yeah. Or maybe if you lose, you got to pay like, $2 million back. Like, every loss, you got to pay something back.
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A
Actually. You got to go pave roads.
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F
Yeah.
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D
Yeah. That'd be sweet.
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A
Go lay hard labor. Go pick on the lay concrete. I don't know. I think, honestly, this is Jeff Landry right now. What this ends up becoming, I think will be a good thing for LSU football until they lose games, if they lose games. But there's a chance to go undefeated. Yeah, there's a chance to go undefeated going forward. And I'm excited to see who ends up down there. Honestly, I'm very excited to.
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I
Who they want to win. We know that they want to win. We know some fan bases feel like their team or their school, like, doesn't truly want to win. I. I feel like Jeff Landry and lsu, they want to win. I don't know if you. You may not agree on how they go about it, but they're trying everything they can.
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A
Yeah. And there's obviously a lot of interest in that job. You know, lsu, as soon as it opens up, you hear all the people that know coaching, all the people that know, like, in the coaching world, they're like, lsu, good job. I'm like, lsu, great job. Okay. I understand that their fans are awesome. I understand that the environment is crazy. Why is it such a good job? And then now it's three out of the last four. But they always go, three different coaches, national championship down there. Three different coaches, national championship. Nick Saban, Miles Ocho.
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C
All within the first four years, too.
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A
Those three coaches, all three of them, soon as they leave lsu, they go on to become massive, very, very, very, very, very successful head coaches. Is that right? All three of those guys. Do one of them. Sure. Lsu, all three of them win a national champ championship. Okay. So all three of them win national championship there. Because the amount of talent that is just in Louisiana that just wants to be at lsu, I guess you're in it every year. Like, there's never going to be a game where you show up and the other side is going to have more talent, be more physically gifted, all that shit. So if you're a good coach, not. Not even elite, if you are a good coach, the thought is, at lsu, you should be able to get the boys rolling in the right direction, let alone if you're an elite coach. AJ Is kind of the conversation about it down there.
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I
Yeah. You got to be an elite coach at some of these places, though. You have to. You there just gets to a point to where the. The fan, like, they're sick of going 10 and two, whatever it may be. Like, you gotta. You have to make a deep run. I. I don't know. It is wild to think about, Think about Penn State's basically a couple plays for making the national championship. Coach Franklin's gone. Like, I get it. I understand why they do get, like. But it is. You just have to win. Especially, like, There's a handful 5, 10 jobs where you have to.
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A
To win. Kirk. Herb street chatted about it in our production meeting for game day and then on game day a little bit. These money people shouldn't have the power. They're not football people. They should not be deciding what it is.
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Why would they give any money then that.
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A
Well, that's everybody's response. That's everybody's. That was my. I was sitting right next to him. Whenever he said it, I literally just looked at him and I'm like, I. I agree with what you're. I.
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I
Yes, I. Yeah, I do, too, in theory.
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A
I know what you're saying. Yes. But these people giving $10 million are, like, just going to expect something. And then also, if they don't like what's going on, they could just say, I'm not giving another 10 million. And then both of those things are leveraged. Anytime you get into the publicly traded market, you know, anytime you start taking outside money, all of a sudden there's outside voices or pressures. What are the pressures? Well, they're not happy or they're threatening not to do that again. So then it's both. Both of those things because. Pressures. But you need it to win. It's just like a part of the entirety. But we all agree with Kirk. I would like to let you. That's not great that that is how it's going, but it is the reality of the current situation.
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F
Yeah. And I'm sure it's been happening for a while, but I feel like, like when I was in college, maybe when you guys were in college, it was. You'd have a big donor, would give 25, 50 million and that'd be like a one time gift. And then they'd put their name on like a football building or something like that. Now it's you give $10 million on SEP or let's say, you know, August 1st or whatever. Like, guess what? The following year, on August 1st, they're coming right back to you and saying, hey, we need another 10 million. We need another 10 million. Like you want to win, let's go. We need this every single year.
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A
And they're even sending highlights of. And once again, General manager Rivera over there at Cal and the Calgorithm. They got a lot of money. Let's assume that this is not going to be a conversation, but they will be sending highlights. A song of Politelli, if he's available to these boosters and be like, hey, could you imagine what this guy could do at our place? It's a hundred thousand people all in song of pull a telly comes out of the top. Like they're setting the tone for these people. And you get a parking spot. Get a parking spot. Okay.
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I
And you get, you get the opportunity to pay $800,000 for a suite for the eight home games we have.
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A
Yeah, of course, this is not counting to the suite. The suite is its own thing, which obviously you would like to see the stadium renovated. We appreciate you looking out for us like that for future generations of insert name of school here. But also we need this. So when you're in that suite, you know what make that suite better on the field. This guy. Look at this throw. Look at this third and seventh row that he delivers right here. This is a cow. People would say this is just song of Boltelli. Once again, General manager Rivera out of cow. We'll figure that whole thing out. I'm just saying it as you know, Fernando Mendoza just happened. It's happened with Will Howard whenever he was coming out. Like, these are just things that happened, happen, and they're only going to continue to happen, you know, like, we could be the next Diego Pavia. Situation with Vandy. All you got to do is give us a $1.5 million. Well, I just gave him 2 million last year. Yeah, but those guys are developing.
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D
Yeah, that's gone.
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A
Those guys are developing. Well, they're not on our team anymore, right. Yeah, they're developing somewhere else. You know, it's just always. It's always one of those. I don't know how you keep them coming.
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F
You can't.
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I
You gotta win. You gotta win every game. You want them to keep bringing money. Like, can you imagine? They. You gave 5, 10 million, and they call you again and the team went 7 and 4. Like, well, I don't. I might give you 1 million. Then you can prove to me you can get back to where you were.
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A
And on that note, like, if you don't win, what does the person that is accruing that money say to these people to make sure it keeps?
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F
That's tough.
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A
Yeah. So then it's like, well, you got to make change. You'll make change. I'm not giving you money. It's like, well, we need it. What are we talking about? He's. No, we're done with it. I start. Yeah. What do you mean, iced out? Don't call me. I ain't giving you another dollar. This team sucks. I'm not watching. Well, you got a parking spot. Give it up. I don't want it. You can take that out of that whole thing. And then it's like, well, if I move on from the guy, you back $15 million. You move on from that guy, it's like all of a sudden, this person has a lot of leverage.
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F
Yeah.
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A
Which goes back to Herb Street's point. That ain't how it's supposed to be. Join us now, ladies and gentlemen. He's a man who maybe signs up for that life.
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C
Sure.
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A
Perhaps super bowl. He'd be able to bounce it all. Yeah, he did bounce it all. Stable little. He'd be able to look down at it, say, hey, listen, let's sort this out. Okay. I know you want. I want to. Ladies and gentlemen, super bowl champion Coach Mike McCarthy. Yeah, Coach. How are you? Coach?
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B
Enjoyed that segment. That was awesome, Coach.
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A
All right, I'm going to put you on spot here. And okay, I mentioned it at the end of the last hour. Your name has not been brought up for any college job at, at all. Okay, now we're in the world though where NFL coaches think that college football is more similar to the NFL than it's ever been. And maybe, you know, with the draft class is basically just your recruiting class and then portal is free agency. So maybe NFL guys are more likely to become college coaches because it's more of a similar operation. Now like I said, nobody has mentioned, mentioned the great Irishman from Pittsburgh for any of these college jobs. Have you ever considered college? Are you just NFL guy through and through and what is your views on the current state of college football?
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B
Well, I mean, there was a time actually when I first got into coaching, I got into it for college football. I mean that was my goal, you know, back at the University of Pittsburgh. You know, I was there in 89 and 1989 and 1992. And if you'd have told me I could have stayed there for 25 years on an assistant coaches contract that would have signed it. I just felt that, you know, college football was the period of a young man's life that you could make the biggest impact. So that was my initial, you know, goal of getting into coaching and what attracted me to get into coaching. So. But then 1993, I got an opportunity at a young age by Marty Schottenheimer to be, you know, to be in the, in the National Football League at Kansas City. And then really from there, you know, that's, that's been my flight, you know, professionally. So, you know, I looked at some things early in my time in the NFL. But you know, back then, I mean, it was so hard to get in the NFL. You know, it was, you know, I can just remember the first staff that I was on, I think I was 29 years old and you know, I think the next oldest guy might have been, you know, in his late late 30s, early 40s. So I mean it was such a hard league to get into to even more so at that time. So yeah, so I've always viewed it as, you know, I'm here, you know, do everything I can to progress here. And I've been, and I've been very.
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A
Oh, he's been very blessed, I believe is what he was going to say.
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B
I mean, hell, I think I'm going to stick to women's volleyball. I mean, that's a juggernaut out there, what these guys are going through. But I do agree with you, you see the parallels now how the Call college landscape has gone more towards a professional with the payment of players and so forth. And I know just the friends that I have in college football, they do feel that, you know, the regularity of the, of the college game is starting to get, you know, more and more balanced and, you know, there is a little more clarity. But it's a tough gig, you know, especially just seeing what's going on here the last two weeks with, you know, with some of these buyouts. So, you know, I thought you made a lot of excellent points. Points.
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A
Okay. Hey, I appreciate hearing that from you legitimately and thank you for getting us a shout out on Sunday Night Football. I mean, we're having quite a little run here. I don't know if you know about us. You get us a shout out on, on Sunday Night Football. Thank you. Run it among the interested Spectators tonight.
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D
Mike McCarthy, of course, coached the packers when they beat the Steelers in Super Bowl 45.
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A
Coached Aaron for a long time. And a guy who grew up in.
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I
Pittsburgh, he is Western PA 3 through and through.
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A
Hell yeah. And of course, after the run in Dallas, he's has some time on his hands now.
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D
See him on TV, Pat McAfee show every week.
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A
Always enjoy talking ball with Mike.
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D
And he is here.
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A
Thank you, man. Yeah, right. That would never happen. Also, you look so cool Tangle hat up there and I see a couple maybe concoctions in it. How was the game? And then let's dive into the game. But first, how was the suite? How was life in Pittsburgh watching a game back home?
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B
I mean, it was great. It's always great to go back home without a doubt, so to hang out with the family. But yeah, I was, you know, I was a little hesitant to go the game. I'm so glad I did go to the game. The atmosphere was incredible. I mean, I just, you know, love that stadium through and through and the crowd on both sides. I mean, it was, it was spectacular. I mean, especially in the first half. And you know, the Packers, I thought, played extremely well in the second half. But, you know, just, you know, my son Jack, we went back with me and then I had my nephew and my two sisters there. So it was great. Hospitality was, was, was awesome. And I really, I'm really glad I went back. It was, you know, good to see Aaron playing the black and gold and just, just a lot of, a lot of great conversation around certain people coming to, you know, say hello in a box. So it was a great night.
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A
Hey, I heard your post up in a corner. Pinky ring, Kangal on everybody's coming through saying, thanks for coming back to town. That's what I heard they were saying. I heard that's how it was going. Well earned, brother. Well earned over there in Pittsburgh. And obviously, that evening showcased the worst uniforms maybe in the history of ball. Those yellow ass cheeks that they had on. The Pittsburgh Steelers had Brett Michaels, obviously, absolutely slaughtering it. How was the performance? Brett Michaels performance? Pretty good.
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B
Crushed it. Crushed it. No, he was awesome. The whole night was awesome. But, yeah, Brett was excellent.
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A
Okay.
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B
He really had the crowd going.
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A
We've had conflicting reports from the stadium that maybe some places couldn't hear him as good. So maybe that's why the second half went the way that it went. But nonetheless, happy to hear that. You like. Yeah, that. Some of that happening out there, Coach. Some of that happening out there. So I'm happy you enjoyed it. You got to go. You got a front row seat. That's good. And then there was Go Pack, Go Chance. Allegedly that turned the Pittsburgh Steelers into having to use a silent count at home. Bruce Arians, former Pittsburgh Steelers coach, says, I'm embarrassed for the Steelers fans, but other than that, what do we learn on the field? AJ Has a question for you, coach.
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I
Yeah, Coach, I don't know how many times you've watched, like, the packers or the Steelers offense play. As a fan, I know as a kid, I'm sure you have. But watching Aaron from the stands, like, as a fan, what was that like? And what do you think his game looks like?
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B
He's.
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I
He's moving around pretty well out there, and we know he obviously can. Can still throw the ball.
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B
Yeah, I think he's really starting to settle in. I thought. I really felt that way watching him against Cincinnati, you know, the week before. And, you know, I mean, it's, you know, it's like practice every day. A.J. you've been there. He makes, you know, three or four throws. You just, you know, they're routine, but they're, you know, he's still. His ball plays is still off the charts. You know, he's starting to use his legs more, but I thought he looked good. You know, the uniforms are. We're different. You know, mine is some of the, you know, throwbacks that we. You guys were back in the day, but it was. It really was. It was a great atmosphere. The go back, Go Pack, go. We've heard that so many times on the road that. That was something I think I'd ever hear in Pittsburgh, but it was. It was a really cool night. And I thought, you Know, Green Bay really stepped it up in the second half.
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F
Half.
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B
I've, I've seen Green Bay play live three times now and, and seeing them in person, I've been very impressed. You know, week one, week two, and then this past game against Pittsburgh.
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A
AJ says whenever he watches a game, and I think a lot of ex players say their natural tendency is to watch the position that they play. Okay, so AJ probably watching like linebacker, potentially playing whenever he first retired. For me, obviously I watched quarterback. That was kind of what I, I do in that entirety. When you're easy 47 stringer brother, watch Thanksgiving, go see the perfect pass rating. Okay. I don't know how often you played there, but coach, are you watching and like calling plays in your head or thinking about like what you would do next if you were calling the plays? Is that happening for you? Especially with like Aaron, like, okay, Aaron's doing this. I think we should probably do this next. And have you done that with every game that you've watched? If that question makes sense.
- [81:02]
B
Yeah, no, it makes perfect sense because I just think we're all product of our experience. I watch it more from a game plan perspective. I'm always very interested in who's playing with quicker tempo, you know, the game, operation play entry, things like that substitution, you know, particularly, you know, watching Aaron, you know, he had the, you know, the one offside that wasn't called, but you know, the free play opportunities and things like that. So. And then, and then obviously the third down, the red zone, you know, the situational and the game management stuff. So I think you tend to just really try to go in the ebb and flow of the game and, and it's, and it's funny because, you know, you're sitting there trying to watch the game and it's cool. But when you have other people around you that want to talk and ask questions and you're like, come on man, it's third and five here.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, pay attention.
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B
I mean, you know, what defense are they in? So I mean. Yeah, so no, it's. I think you just, you watch the game from what you're used to. So I just really try to really stay in tune with the situations and. Cause, you know, it's just like you look at that game, there's two or three players plays for Pittsburgh that go the other way, you know, then, you know, maybe it's a tighter ballgame in the second half. So you know, and just, you know, because, you know, the ebb and flow of the game is, is, is so critical to the success in our league. And I think it's just the parity has been so evident that game games are that competitive and, you know, the big plays just can swing in that momentum, you know, so far to the left and that sometimes you can't get back.
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A
Watching in public is certainly difficult, you know, with people around it. I don't want to say like I'm some super football expert, but Jesus, when you watch a game in public and you hear some things that people are saying, it's like this guy being dumb. Has this person ever. Have you ever watched the sport before? What? What? It is hard, isn't it, Coach? It. I couldn't even imagine for you. I could not even imagine for you. But it is. It's great how much people love it, though, which is. Which is part of it all, you know, Part of it all. You talked about the second half there for the Green Bay Packers. Connor. Connor has a question for you.
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D
Yeah, Coach. The second half numbers are coming out with the Steelers and it's pretty bad. Hambo sent some stuff just basically saying, yeah, here it is. The Mike Tomlin Steelers allowed fewer points per game in 2008, 2011 and 2010 than they're allowing in the second half alone this season. And you know, Tony's talked about this a lot. It's not as big of a deal if there wasn't so much money on the defensive side. And what I want to ask you about is this clip from football and with Big Ben and Sports bank, the.
- [83:29]
B
Pittsburgh Steelers, when I was there and.
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C
For as long as I can remember.
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B
Were the best in the world or.
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C
One of the best in the world.
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B
At making halftime adjustments. As players, we, we were proud of.
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C
The coaches at halftime, great coaches that.
- [83:41]
B
Were able to make halftime adjustments.
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C
We didn't play well in the first half. They were going to make adjustments and.
- [83:47]
B
We were going to go in the second half. And as long as we executed and did what we were supposed to do.
- [83:51]
C
The adjustments made at halftime, we're going to. We're going to give us that opportunity.
- [83:54]
B
Opportunity to win.
- [83:54]
C
As I'm watching these games, it doesn't feel like the adjustments are being made. Again, I'm not in the locker room. I don't. Maybe they are and the players aren't. I don't know. This is just my opinion now, is that coaching? Is it players? Is it adjustments? Is it lack of adjustments? I don't know, but it just feels like the second half of ball games were.
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A
We're.
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B
We stink.
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A
And, and it's and I'm, I just.
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C
I'm just asking a question.
- [84:19]
B
Are we making the property adjustments?
- [84:22]
D
Yeah. So coach, obviously even Big Ben is kind of question. And we love Ben. Yeah. That football and show is electric. He came in the suite too. Awesome guy. And I'm a Patriots fan. I don't even give a about the Steelers, but when you're looking at something like that or hearing something like that, and then Tony just Let me know, 47% of the points they've given up have come in the fourth quarter. What the hell's going on? Because it feels like there has been been, especially the past few years where there's been issues with the, you know, offense or defense and the halftime adjustments have been called into question. And, you know, obviously they let go of Matt Canada midseason, which was very kind of not to the Steeler way, if you will. Do you see something happening with the defense when it, when it comes to, you know, something along those lines and what's your kind of understanding of it after being in there on Sunday night?
- [85:13]
B
Well, I think you've hit on a couple excellent points here. I think number one, you know, and you know, first off, you got to love Ben's beard. It's looking sharp. That was strong, but it was, I would say, second half adjustments. I've never been, you know, want to say, hey, let's get in there at halftime and get this job. I mean, because it's really from the coach's perspective is going on the whole, the whole game. I mean, if your coaches aren't. If your communication network isn't not, you know, flowing through the whole course of the game, then yeah, there's something, there's something wrong there. Halftime really gives you a chance to go down and show some pictures as a group, get. Do more group talking and things like that and addressing kind of, it's more of a reset. So I think the adjustment component is something you just got to look at, you know, the flow of what's going on. I mean, I think when you get into games and you watch trends that continue to happen, happen, then that's a potential issue. You know, I think that's something that it's week eight, week nine. I look at these more as trends. You know, I think that's why you got to really watch how you react to stats. And trust me, every head coach, every general manager, everybody, you know, the analytics departments, the influx of information is constant. So I can promise you that they're looking at it and the reality of they're Going to clearly know what's going on inside, you know, make, you know, was. Was it communication? Was there a breakdown on the adjustments that only the players know? Because, you know, sometimes, and AJ Tested this, that, you know, things. Things are said and it's not clear during the course of the game. And sometimes you don't get that iron out to halftime or get it ironed out, unfortunately, till after the game. And that's, to me, that's, that's, that's really reflective of your communication network that needs go on throughout the whole game. So, so, yeah, I think these are something. These are things that they're definitely addressing. And we all understand that when things don't go right and there's a lot of money involved, then, you know, the criticism goes way up and that's justified. And I think that's whether you're a coach, you know, in a situation where, you know, that's going on at this time of year in our industry, but also with players. So that's part of the criticism. And the higher the stakes go up in the NFL, the intensity is only going to go up.
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A
I heard Peyton Manning say halftime adjustments are okay. I've heard AJ and you say something similar. So whenever players like Ben say, like, we took a lot of pride in the fact that we made great halftime adjustments, is that just second half calling plays that are good as opposed to calling the same shitty plays from the first half on both sides of the ball? Is that what they're saying?
- [87:45]
B
I can't, I can't speak for them, but I think also the, you know, a big part of play calling us, too, is, you know, is the execution.
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I
I mean.
- [87:58]
B
Yeah, I mean, you know, I always felt that, you know, a quick, good call is better than a late, perfect call. And because give it to the player. Like, my, my goal as a play caller was to get it to the quarterback as fast as he can. You know, no different. If we're talking about the defense, I mean, AJ Called the defenses for us in Green Bay. I mean, he's. He's a much better communicator if he has it quickly. Because every, Every play call in today's NFL, and it's been like this for decades, decades, there are potential adjustments in pretty much every situation. So, you know, I just think when you talk about the communication network, it's not just halftime, you know, it goes on throughout the whole game. So, you know, because you want to be clear, concise, and get it to the players so that they, you know, it because they, they got to communicate. You know how the communication. The higher the confidence is and higher that the execution level will go up.
- [88:49]
D
Yeah. And like the Patriots as an example, they are terrible in the first quarter of games. If you go back and look at a lot of the games they've won, they're down either after the first 10 minutes or first quarter.
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A
Slow starters.
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D
Yeah, always. And then their defense after the first quarter, the. The numbers are insane. So, like, that's why the adjustment thing feels real. But maybe not just halftime.
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A
Now, on that note, you talk about quick, good play call instead of being late. And A.J. had the green dot. A.J.
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B
What?
- [89:18]
A
I heard Chase Daniels. I heard Chase. I heard Chase Daniels do you a play call in his helmet, what it would be like. I obviously never got to experience that. That would have been so cool to be able to have that happen before going out on a field and then trying to do something very, very difficult. But now that I know that you've been this guy, and we know you're super chatty and stuff like that, so can you just walk us. Can you walk us through? Because there's no other mics anywhere. Can you walk us through what a huddle will be? I'm a huddle with you here. I want to feel like I'm in the huddle.
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I
I'm a part of that.
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A
Great.
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I
A little different. First off, it's not going to be nearly the. The conversation, the communication that Chase had. Okay. It would be very, very simple. And say.
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B
Tight.
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I
Well, me too, buster. Tight. Well, me, too, buster.
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A
Okay. Any situations I should be thinking about, leader?
- [90:05]
I
No, that's the problem. You actually. That's the thing. When it's going in your ear, you got to say it as the coach is telling me. So I'm speaking, but I can't hear myself as I'm yelling it to the rest of the whole defense and repeating it over and over. You. I've seen guys freak out like that, and all of a sudden they get this speaker, and it starts coming in, and they just freak out and panic and can't tell you the call. I've seen that happen.
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A
All right, can you give me one more timeout?
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D
No.
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B
Never call a timeout.
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I
Do you have your ears in? Never call a timeout. If you're on defense, you call your favorite blitz or your favorite defense buddy, and you tell him, sorry, pal, it didn't come through my speaker.
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A
I couldn't hear a word you saying.
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F
I need you to be l. Raucous environment.
- [90:50]
A
Jeez, we're just a Lambo bro. Yeah, fourth dock. Coach, did you hear that? We couldn't hear words. Defensive coach.
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I
Can you imagine offensive coach coach, if a defensive player called a timeout because he couldn't get the defensive call in? I would. I would assume you'd be a little bit upset at me if I would have done that. I just. Just give us a call, right?
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A
I'm just.
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I
I can give the defense a call.
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B
Absolutely. No, you always have to. You always have to have a go to call.
- [91:12]
A
So I was D tackle there, too. I was turning around listening to you imagine D tackle. Close timeout because I can't hear. Wait, what's eight?
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C
Aj, what's your favorite go to call, though? If you couldn't hear what. What's your favorite go to call?
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I
I don't know. It's a little double, you know, double A gap.
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A
Blitzers.
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B
There you go.
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I
That's most likely.
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A
Why is that? Why is that? Who gets to go?
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I
Well, I would usually I'd go first and go ram my skull into the first person, hopefully ricochet into the quarterback.
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A
All right, that's awesome. Thank you for taking us inside the huddle with you, A.J. that was an honor. Yeah. God. Hall of Fame nominee. Got a chance to hear him.
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F
I know.
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A
Did you hear that Chase had a.
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I
Lot of communication in that one?
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F
That was. That was much different than the offensive.
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A
Well, I couldn't hear a word you were saying. Chase had a lot more projection in his voice. Did you hear him do that? What was your play calls like? Let's say. Oh, here we go. Oh, okay.
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I
Yeah. This is the one you want to do.
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B
Are you talking to me?
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A
Yeah, definitely.
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B
Oh, you want a play call favorite?
- [92:04]
A
Need one, right?
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B
I'll just go old school with you. Well, you got a part two. You got the. You got blue right seat left two. Jeff flanker drive.
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A
X corner, blue right, C left two, retro downward down there, everybody. Okay, let's get another one.
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I
Would you say anything after, coach? Would you say anything after, like, hey, watch him. You know, watch him playing cover two. Or did you, like, if you had.
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F
Time, George Pickens is falling right now getting the ball.
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B
I'll be honest with you. I mean, every quarterback that you know as far as a play entry, like some. Some guys wanted to play like Brett, far Brett. Brett was like, hey, tell me to play. You could talk to me all the way up to 15 seconds. He was. He was. He was fine. Now, Rich Gannon, you know, because these are the guys I kind of learned with as a quarterback coach and coordinator is, you know, Rich Gannon wanted to play and get the hell off to just get out of my ear. Because he was going to, you know, he was going to talk more, you know, and Aaron was more like Rich. Dak was probably a little more like. So, I mean, every guy was a little different. And that was really. We called a play caller's purpose and the play caller and the quarterback rush room, you spend a ton of time talking about each play call in the game because, you know, you go through your off season, you put the plays in and these are for normal diamond distance. But if we use this same play in third down, then there are adjustments that go with it. So, you know, there's a lot of conversation that goes on about each and every play with the quarterback. So, you know, we, you know, the purpose of the play call. So you always might want to tag a reminder, you know, you know, with that, particularly if you're using and, you know, a four vertical scheme in first and second down as opposed to four vertical scheme in third down. Because obviously the coverage will be tighter. You know, the matchup emphasis may be different, you change the formation, but the concept's the same. So I think that, you know, the biggest thing for quarterbacks and that's why, you know, so much as it goes into these off season programs is these conversations. It's always the little stuff. It's the little things that you can give, you know, not only you give to the quarterback, but he can give to the extra receiver, breaking idle or, you know, to the tight end on a vertical scheme, you know, you know, make sure you hit the inside edge of the hash. You know, just all those little coaching reminders, particularly the biggest ones, I think that's where you were going was in protection. You know, your protection adjustments are always, you know, that's really the starting point of getting the plet set. You know, you set the plate, you know, set the table, get everything ironed out, make sure you got a solid protection because from a passing game standpoint, you feel if, if you got a clean pocket, then you should be able to defeat the defense.
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A
Okay, I love to hear all that from your brain, honestly. Thank you for allowing us in on all that information. That is incredible to hear, especially from somebody that did it such a high level for so damn long. I would need the wristband, I think, you know, just kind of getting into the offense. But it's fourth and eight. Okay, fourth and eight. 47 seconds left. We have no timeout. We're on our own 32. Okay. I do have George Pickens And I do have CD Lamb, and I am the quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys. And you need to act as if. If I am Brett Favre or deck. Like I. I don't mind the. The reminders here. What would be your play? Call fourth and eight on your own 30. Whatever it was. 47 seconds left. No timeout. Gotta have it. We're down four. Okay, we are down four. Need a touchdown. And I like you being chirpy. Okay? So I'm in the huddle. Please, please.
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B
Okay, you got. Just go double, double right, two Jet, X Knife, Z Puma. Just. You want to get in those two by two to give you an option based off where they're going to tilt the coverage because you got CD on one side, you know, obviously got. You got George on the other side. So if George gets the one on one, don't forget, we call team to play.
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I
Pat, you gotta tell the offense to play, too. He's got. He forgot to tell him to play.
- [95:39]
A
We don't have a timeout. Coach, when am I. When am I telling them?
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I
You gotta tell them to play as he's telling you.
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B
Oh, you said. You said chatty man.
- [95:47]
A
No, I know, but when am I supposed to tell the boys what the hell we're doing?
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I
He's not waiting on you to respond.
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A
He's.
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C
Wait.
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I
You got to tell the play. You got to tell the guy.
- [95:53]
B
I already gave. I already gave you the play.
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A
Yeah, but when am I telling the voice? Why. Why you're telling me about if. If George is single right there. So that's.
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B
I was explain. I was explaining the play. I.
- [96:04]
A
It might.
- [96:04]
B
Hey, double or double right? TJ Flaker drive. Z Puma. Don't forget about the one on one with George. Take the Kodak. You got.
- [96:17]
A
Only maybe a 10 second runoff if things already. It's tough stuff.
- [96:22]
B
Oh, my God.
- [96:23]
A
Hey, we need to work on this. The offseason sounds. It sounds like I need to be paying a little bit more attention in the off season. That's insane to think about that, right?
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F
Yeah.
- [96:30]
D
But if, you know, it's quarters, you can just throw it deep, baby. You can hit CD or George Pickens.
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A
We're not getting into that, coach. We appreciate the opportunity there to kind of dive into what your life is on a regular basis, and it has been for time. A long, long time. That was cool. I got no shot. I think I'm more of a freestyler, coach. I think I would be doing. Can't hear. Can't hear. Can't hear.
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B
Well, we've seen that before.
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A
Yeah, I think that happens a lot. I think some of the quarterbacks that have actually done. Have come on this show and go like other guys. Things like they. They say it's not working, it doesn't work. Mine actually go out every single time I do that. It's like, yeah, sounds like that's what everybody says. All right, let's go to massive game this weekend. Obviously, historic, tight type, especially if you look at literally the history of these two teams. Go ahead, Ty.
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F
Yeah, Coach. You talked a little bit ago about the parody in the NFL. And while I think, you know, that is definitely true, coming off a weekend in which we had more blowouts since 1970 or whatever it was, Chiefs and Bills always deliver no matter what. They've. You know, basically the AFC has kind of come down to one of these two teams for the last several years. It seems like, what do you think about this game? How do you see it going? And does this remind you at all of like maybe, maybe packers when you were coaching them in Seahawks, where you kind of knew no matter what, you might have a game in the regular season, but there was a good championship that come, you know, NFC championship or, you know, what, deep in the playoffs, like you were going to see this team again.
- [97:53]
B
Yeah, definitely. I mean, we've talked on the show before about, you know, division games. I've always loved the division games because they were always the most competitive games of the season. But when you do have the parade, parental playoff contender that you'd see almost annually, you know, this may even go to a different level. So this will. This will play like a playoff game. And that's. And that's where these guys will, you know, they'll view it but won't talk about it because, you know, the intensity is going to be real because there is history. There's great history. You got two marquee MVP champ, you know, championship level quarterbacks, you know, that will highlight it. But yeah, this game will be of tremendous intensity. But yeah, you always love playing in those games. I mean, Seattle, I think of Seattle and Green Bay, you know, particularly in the regular season. You know, the first thing was, where was the game? Because, you know, that was a little bit weird. You know, the crowd noise still was a factor. I think the offenses in today's NFL do such a better job at the line of scrimmage. And I know it's something, you know, coming out of the 90s and early 2000s, you really had to work on the handle crowd noise because, you know, back in the 90s when I was at the Kansas City Chiefs, we very rarely lost a home game because we had great defense, great special teams, and Arrowhead was just impossible to, you know, to deal with from a noise standpoint. So I do think the noise factor is always a component that when I think back to those Seattle games because, you know, we had some rough moments there up there in Seattle sometimes in our early days with the noise.
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A
Oh, my God. I just thought of four different rough moments for you guys up in Seattle. Literally, as you said that just four different pump. John Ryan's throwing a touchdown. One of them.
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F
Oh, yeah, that was the big one.
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A
John Ryan's like, yes, right here.
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F
Yeah, that was a big one.
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D
Can see AJ in that one, too. AJ was in the worst spot possible on that play.
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A
That's because he called a double A blitz for himself. He did. Coach Kar. Not.
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B
What are you guys doing here?
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A
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. You just. We were trying to exclamation point your point that, yes, we do remember the times up in Seattle. Now, on that note, there are some times in Green Bay. Let's go Bay, huh? Ain't that right, Ty?
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F
Yeah, definitely that. That NFC Championship game in Seattle, though, that. That one will stick with me for the rest of my life. Like, I'm sure it'll stick with.
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D
Patriots fans were, you know how mad Patriots fans were. We finally were going to have Rogers versus Brady.
- [100:12]
F
I know.
- [100:12]
D
In the Super Bowl. It was the most mad I've ever been at the Green Bay packers because they screwed us.
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A
Okay? So let's get away from that. Obviously, when you're in the game for a long time, the these moments are going to happen. Congrats to you both on getting to the top of the mountain. Still be champ rest of your life.
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F
That's right.
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A
Rest of your life. Because there's some of us, you know, they'd never. Okay. I thought you were going to pull your ring out right there. Instead it was that. Then. Were you. I don't know if you were with the packers still at the time of the replacement refs, Were you there for that?
- [100:37]
B
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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I
Oh, yeah.
- [100:39]
B
We were both there.
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I
Yeah.
- [100:41]
A
Coach, is it hard, man?
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D
What do we.
- [100:43]
E
We got.
- [100:46]
B
We're going to have a production meeting or something. Christ, I'm bleeding all over the place.
- [100:53]
I
Jeez, I'm so sorry.
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A
All right, let's go through all my worst days. Okay, I'm sorry.
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B
That was a bad day now. That was I know.
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A
I understand. I understand. I'm so sorry I brought those up, but you brought up the bad days in Seattle, so I'm sorry that my brain. I brought.
- [101:07]
B
I brought up crowd noise. I didn't say anything about that bad day.
- [101:11]
A
All right, all right. Well, in my head, I heard you say that, and then so many bad days, and I. Once again, they popped up in my brain. So obviously being a part of it has to be a different. Hey, we won't let you know. Let's bury the ball. Let's bury the ball. We're going to bury that ball. Okay. Two, four of them. I guess we're going to bury four of those balls and we're going to move on. We appreciate you, packers boys. We appreciate you packers boys. Now football is awesome. Parody a couple different times. Go ahead, A.J.
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I
Yeah, Pat mentioned parody. Coach. We. This last week we had a slate of games where there was a bunch of blowouts we don't really see in the NFL that often. And I guess, is there a reason for this? Is this a time of year? Like, why do you think we did see so many blowouts?
- [101:50]
B
Well, I think, like, you know, a lot of things, you know, there's a lot of variables that go into this, but when I see stats like this, I know as a head coach, you know, one of the hardest thing, not hardest things, one of the things you enjoy the most is competing with the other, you know, NFL coaches as far as how you train your team. So, you know, to have that many blowout games, you know, at this point in the season, I think you gotta. You gotta take a look at it. Why? You know, just when you look at the CBAs in 2011 and 2020, you know, less time with players and, you know, the youth. The NFL is a younger league now, so does that mean also the backups are younger? You look at the injury challenge that you have every single year, are we doing a better job helping in that area as far as the training and things leading into that to sports science, I just think there's so many factors. You know, you can also say, well, just times up that this team was hot and that team wasn't, you know, But I think these are things the league really needs to pay close attention to because I think you can go down a bunch of rabbit holes here, because when you look at the success of the National Football League, you know, the first thing is you look at the money, and the money is just. Is off the charts. It's greater than it's ever been. But I Mean is the quality of play. How are you evaluating the quality of play? So when you, when you see things like this, I know, I know for me personally, I go right to the training. Okay. You know, there's so much that goes into how you train your team in the off season program, how you train your team at training camp, how you're in season training, because all the adjustments you have to make with this injured challenge, the development of the back half of your team because, you know, your younger players, your backup players, are you spending money on the middle class, free agency for your backup players or your own also solely, you know, investing clearly in the young players as the backup too. So all these different components play into it. And I just think when you get there, you'll see, you'll see the separation in the competitive level and you have games like this. So I hope this is just an accident, you know, but I think it's a bit alarming is the quality of play. We talked about September football and I felt September football has been not very good in the, in the last 10, 12 years. You know, didn't really pay attention to it that much in my early years as a head coach, but I also, I started, you know, trying to train differently in training camp to, to do certain things in September just because, because I just think that's the way this thing's gone because less time with players and coaches does not equate to higher quality play. I don't, I don't care what, what the numbers say, you know, what goes into it. And I think some that that is showing up here, that's rearing its head more, more in my opinion, as we move, move forward here. I just wish there could be more time, particularly even if it's just with the younger players. And AJ I go to our experience in Green Bay and we had the thing called vet select and the vets were, thought it was great that they were, you know, getting some time off and things like that. But the other side of that was it was giving the coaching staff more time with the younger players. So these younger players are playing more and more each and every year they're playing earlier, especially if you also, you know, if your roster, you know, development or your profile is that you're young all the way through, you know, particularly even with your backups, you know, where's the extra training to make sure these guys are ready to play? Because let's also, you know, let's throw in the injuries. You know, when guys aren't totally ready to play, they Play what with a little less confident, A little less confident player on the NFL filled injury risk can go up. So I just think there's a lot of rabbit holes you can run through here. When you see a statistic like last week, that's the first thing that hit me. I was like, wow. I mean, that's, that's, that, that's something you got to continue to talk about first. Now, with that being said, they're not, you know, they're making more money than ever half. So nothing's going to change. So thanks for giving me a chance to, you know, just add a limb here.
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A
Now you're sticking up for coaches there. Sticking up for coaches a lot.
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B
Oh, absolutely. Coaches get, they don't have enough time with their players.
- [105:51]
A
Exactly, exactly. But players get drafted off of potential and then what do coaches say? Well, potential get your ass fired. Potential is only really potential if you have the ability to work and get to that, you know, and that's where the coaches come in. Coaches are getting judged on that, on, hey, this was the potential. This is where he's at. This is on the coaches. And then the coaches, like you guys, have cut into all of our, all of our training time. And I think what you're hearing from coach McCarthy there is not just him, but the coaching community as a whole when it comes to the end NFL, whenever you talk about the new cba, the amount of training time, we'll drop this off, we'll cut this off. And the people that are making those decisions, you're saying, are only worried about what percentage of the money are either side getting and what is the money as opposed to what the product is on the field, which is literally all the coaches are being judged about. Is that an accurate take on why you feel that way?
- [106:37]
B
No, absolutely. No, that's, I mean, that's part of it, but I mean, you know, we, we get into this profession and understands the, the risk. So I mean, it's, it's not as much about that. I, I, I just, you know, we want to be the best that we can be in. The biggest thing about coaching is developing every player to his full stability, you know, physically, mentally and emotionally. And less time with those players does it doesn't help that cause. So I just, I would just like to see more time with the players, you know, particularly off season and frankly, more padded work. You know, more padded work in training camp.
- [107:11]
A
Wow. Are you making a guardian for shoulder pads?
- [107:14]
F
Huh?
- [107:15]
A
And thigh pads and I know the tailbone pad maybe disappear. We need to bring that back too? Yeah, absolutely. Maybe bubble ball.
- [107:22]
F
Oh, there we go.
- [107:23]
A
Maybe bubble ball in the off season you guys will get the physicality and the reps, players get the safety because he could put them in those things. Yeah, they could do walkthroughs, you know what I mean? Everybody could kind of get blown up in those as well, don't you think? That could be a. But, you know, they're not going to let more training take place like in that kind of.
- [107:40]
B
I know. I just think the offensive line has been a disadvantage and I could just, I don't know if I've said this on the show before. I can remember when I was on the coaches Madden committee and you know, the late, great John Madden would always bring it up and he'd say, how can we help these offensive linemen? I mean, they're at such a disadvantage coming out of training camp because you know, they, you know, they have the least amount of time to get ready to, you know, to do their job because of, you know, you know, only a certain amount of padded practices, you know, where the off season, the perimeter guys can still work on their footwork, their timing and you know, there's, there's a lot more training opportunity for the perimeter players.
- [108:21]
A
Yeah. And you're, if you're going to be a good team, you're going to have to have a good offensive line. And if you're going to be an ass team, it's probably because you have an ass offensive line. That's kind of, that's kind of how the football goes at this point, Coach McCarthy.
- [108:33]
B
And always has it, always has.
- [108:44]
A
That's football, baby. That's football, coach, right here. That's what football is, always will be. Where's game one, Coach?
- [108:53]
B
Where's game one?
- [108:54]
A
Where's game one? In trenches. Gotta be able to fight somebody in there, Coach. That's football until the very end. No matter how much they soften it, no matter how much they try to change rules, you're always gonna have to be able to punch somebody in the face better than the other team. That's what you're gonna have to be able to do in football until the end. Amen. No matter how much they change rules. That is literally why football is football. And if you look at the teams that win, they are able to fight and win over your team. And you look at the Philadelphia Eagles last year, I mean that's just like the perfect important epitome of old school football coming back in the biggest way here in 2025. They say cyclical right now we're about to see some ponding happen. Oh, pine time. Big pie. Every. Every time turn into pond time. Coach car. You know what I'm talking about? 2, 4, 7.
- [109:42]
C
Absolutely.
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A
Yeah.
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G
Yeah.
- [109:43]
A
You know what I'm talking.
- [109:45]
B
No, I just think, I mean you look at the playoff teams every year, you know, look at their offensive defensive lines. I mean it's clearly haven't go to. You don't. You don't make it in the playoffs if you can't. If you, if you're not able to get it done. They live there, you know, it's. It'll never change, you know, and I think with the run Philadelphia's on, you know, their offensive line, this, this last decade has been so impressive and I think it gives you the opportunity to have consistency. And just their level of consistency here the last five years is, is unbelievable.
- [110:14]
A
Yeah, I think your population of Pantan needs to be a tough group. That is just what Pontan in the trenches. Gotta be a tough group of citizens that you got on your squad if you're gonna want to win. Now who are you bringing in to the team maybe if you want to go on a real run and who the hell are you getting out if your team stinks? Maybe in his absolute shite tone has a question for you, Coach.
- [110:33]
C
Yeah, coach, the next time we talk to you, the trade deadline will have passed and obviously your time with the packers as head coach, the trade deadline was much different than it was when you were with the Cowboys just a year ago. How has the trade deadline changed and what is the responsibility of the head coach during the trade deadline?
- [110:51]
B
Well, I mean, the biggest thing is, I think people don't really understand how much conversation these personnel departments, you know, that's going on. I mean, that's been the same, you know, every place I've ever worked. So there's a tremendous amount of conversation that goes on. I mean that's just really those guys doing their jobs and really from my experience, you know, it really gets to the head coach when you. When it's really becomes a possible and viable option. So, you know, we didn't do a lot of it at all in Green Bay. There's, you know, more conversation in Dallas, you know, during that period of time. So. But you know, it's, it really, it really comes down to, you know, how can this player help us, you know, at that particular time? And then there's also the financial component to it from a long term standpoint. So. But you know, these personnel departments, they do a Hell of a job. There's a tremendous amount of communication that goes out there. You know, someone had asked me, does you ever have to talk to players about, you know, when their name's out there in the public, as far as, you know, being part of a trade talks? You know, I really didn't have too many of those situations because I think really, players in my experience lean on their agents at that time. Time, you know, because it, you know, there's a network of communication that goes on, you know, throughout this period and it obviously heightens with the trade deadline in front of you.
- [112:11]
A
Coach feels like you handle every situation impeccably. If any university was to reach out to Coach McCarthy and get him as a head coach, not saying you would, I think they would win immediately. And if any NFL team was to reach out to Coach McCarthy, I think they become a winning organization immediately. We love the hell out of you, coach. And it's not just because we think you could win anywhere. You would go coach again because that's what you've done your entire career and that you're a yinzer. It's also because you've helped us win, brother. Now we won't be able to make this pick in the next minute 15. And it's not actually a pick. It's actually just listening to coach McCarthy describe how he thinks tonight's game's going to go and if he was to be making a pick off of how we hear his words, like we basically making pick for him whenever he describes the word, he'd be 5 and 3 right now in the playoffs. We won't be able to get that in here in the final moment. Coming. Coach McCarthy chit chat about that. But we will continue digitally on YouTube, TikTok Live. I think we're also on ESPN plus on Disney Plus.
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F
Yeah, yeah, yes, we are still doing that.
- [113:12]
A
Disney plus all those digital things. We will continue and Coach McCarthy will break down what the game's gonna happen. And we got 30 seconds to fill here, coach, until the ESPN show ends. Any messages for the cafes or restaurants out there that are following along across the country? Coach McCarthy.
- [113:32]
B
Yeah, quickly. Five and three. That's bullshit. But we ain't got time to get into that. But Baltimore, I think clearly is getting healthy now. Miami, you look at these two teams statistically, there's a lot. There's a lot to sort through here. But I like, I think Baltimore is, you know, I watched him play, you know, last week.
- [113:50]
C
Week.
- [113:50]
B
I like, I like what they're doing. I think getting Lamar Back, you know, staying balanced on offense will serve him well. But I only know what the points are usually telling with the points, but.
- [114:00]
A
Seven and a half. Seven and a half.
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B
A lot of points on the roads.
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D
Not division.
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A
Yeah, coach.
- [114:09]
C
Division game's tough with all those big knife.
- [114:14]
A
Oh, two is fresh. He's wearing a visor again.
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D
Clean.
- [114:17]
A
He's wearing the visor again.
- [114:21]
B
I really, I really like Miami's. Miami's front, I think, you know, clearly you look at them on paper, they're starting to produce. I mean, the past defense is something that, it'll be interesting if Baltimore tries to get after him there. But, you know, both teams run the ball well. Turnover ratio probably be a big, big deal in this. I think one's minus five and one's minus six. So, you know, whoever takes care of the football, football will probably prevail tonight. So there's some evolutionary comment right there.
- [114:50]
A
It really is evolutionary, you know, because the stat you need to look for is the turnovers normally and see who wins the game. I forget what the percentages are, but if you win a turnover battle by like two, I think it's like 75. Yeah, yeah, I think whatever. Yeah. And then three plus is some absurd number. And then obviously, if you're able to take care of it. Let's go to 1/2 of the hammer, dad Cowboys, that Bubba Gumpino. What did you hear Coach McCarthy say there? How does he think the game's going to go and what are your thoughts on his thoughts?
- [115:15]
C
Sounds like he was laning Baltimore until the spread was spoken of. So I think he's leaning Fins to keep it tight tonight, by the sounds of things.
- [115:23]
A
Yeah, he said both teams can run the ball. Well, we heard him talk about the trenches earlier. AJ what did you hear from former ball coach here, what he was saying?
- [115:29]
I
I heard the coach might be leaning Baltimore. He said they're getting healthy. Lamar wants to put on a show and he thinks you, you know, that Dolphins may be it may that win may have gone to their head a little bit. They're taking them easy.
- [115:40]
A
That's interesting. So Dumpy says one way, AJ Says the other way. Classic and toxic table. Are you just as befuddled as I am in this entire process?
- [115:48]
F
Well, like we mentioned, you know, with it being seven and a half and kind of starting on Baltimore, I, I, it's not division game. That's not, you know, that's not, it's not too many points for a division game. So I think coach is going to stick with the rest. The Of.
- [116:02]
D
Yeah, it's the biggest put up or shut up game of all time. You could argue, you know, Lamar, put up or shut up. You got rid of all of our fun games. You better go out there and play your ass off. And then the other side is tua.
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A
You know, you've been run.
- [116:13]
D
You've been bumping your gums about how leadership sucks. And you know you got a huge win on Sunday. You can go from one and six to three and six and six days. Time to pull up or shut up.
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A
Yeah, I think it is big time. Pull up. Shut up.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Pull up to toys or shut up for Baltimore.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Put up something or just see you, I guess is kind of how Dolphins fans might be feeling.
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D
Yeah.
- [116:38]
A
So how's he feel, you think?
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D
I don't know.
- [116:40]
A
He's a big pop shop guy. Feels like.
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D
Yeah.
- [116:43]
C
I think he just had a homecoming back to Pittsburgh. He know Lamar is having a homecoming back down to Miami. You think he's a big night for.
- [116:48]
B
The purple and black?
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A
Oh, because he had a great night back in Pittsburgh.
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D
Yeah, but that team was there. That team in the homecoming didn't have.
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C
Have the best night anyway. Team.
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A
Oh, yeah. You're right in the ass. Uniforms. The dog right behind you is beautiful.
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B
What's the name of the dog that is Gus.
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A
Oh, what a name. Great dog name.
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B
Yeah, he's a great dog.
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D
Taking that.
- [117:12]
A
Is that a. Is that from. Is that a majestic golden retriever that's all white like Peter and. And Ben. Rest in peace piece and Mitch and Herb Street's type dog? Is that what that is? If I'm looking at it accurately, that's a yellow lab.
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B
He's a yellow lab. He's a hunter hunting dog.
- [117:29]
A
How is he? How old?
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B
Seven. Seven years old. Oh, master. Master champion. Yeah. What.
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A
What's that?
- [117:37]
D
Excuse me?
- [117:38]
B
He's a master champion. He's got his. He's got his 11 medals, so.
- [117:42]
A
Yeah, Masters champion. What? So he goes to Augusta.
- [117:46]
B
Bird dog. Yeah, he's a bird dog.
- [117:48]
A
Oh, so he gets a bird. He gets a bird faster than.
- [117:51]
B
Yeah, duck, pheasant. Yeah, he's.
- [117:54]
A
Are you legit? Are we dock jumping with him as well?
- [117:57]
B
As soon as I get off his damn show, I'm going. I mean, duck hunting.
- [118:01]
I
Hold on.
- [118:03]
A
Sorry, I'm slowing up. Your duck hunt, obviously, Paul, we do the entirety of it. Are you calling ducks as well? Are you calling ducks as well?
- [118:09]
B
No, no, I'm. I am an amateur when to comes. It comes to bird hunting, so.
- [118:14]
A
And you got an 11 time champion. Well, how's this? Get mad. Does. Does Gus lead you to duck hunting or you lead Gus to duck hunting? How did this come. Hey, he.
- [118:21]
B
He was. He was bred. You know, he's bred to be a champion, so I let him fulfill his dreams.
- [118:30]
A
Eleven times.
- [118:31]
B
No, it's good dog. No, he's a. You gotta. You gotta get 11 ribbons. That's. What is 11 ribbons. You gotta. You gotta go through the different classifications to get. To get the master champion.
- [118:40]
A
Oh, like karate?
- [118:41]
D
Dungeons and Dragons.
- [118:42]
A
Black belt on it. Dungeons and Dragons. Obviously, valedictorians do that. Okay. We appreciate the hell out of you, coach. You're the man. Michael McCarthy. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait.
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D
What's his pick?
- [118:51]
A
Oh, yeah. Who do you like?
- [118:53]
D
Oh, yeah.
- [118:54]
A
Oh, he's muted. He's muted. No, no, no.
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B
Who's my pick?
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
So it's. It's seven and a half.
- [119:03]
I
That's not.
- [119:03]
B
All right. I'm going to go against the grain here. I'm going to go Baltimore.
- [119:06]
A
Wow. All right.
- [119:07]
F
Not the vision game.
- [119:08]
A
Yeah, we appreciate you.
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I
That's not.
- [119:10]
B
I don't like. That's a lot of points, but, hey, I think I like Lamar going home. I think that's gonna. Yeah.
- [119:17]
H
See?
- [119:17]
A
Are we in a blind? Where are we. Where are we headed to?
- [119:19]
I
Oh, how many you get to shoot?
- [119:22]
C
Carson going.
- [119:23]
A
Oh, he's going. The duck. Scotcha. The duck got you. That's him fighting back, coming in and attacking. You're in a blind.
- [119:31]
B
Yes, we'll be in a blind.
- [119:32]
A
Okay. How many people?
- [119:36]
B
I'll let you know. My go.
- [119:42]
A
Too many questions.
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B
Okay.
- [119:47]
A
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- [120:24]
B
Grooming game, all right? I do this show three times a week. Every single time. I have to take grooming very, very seriously. Look back in the archives, guys. Look back and see the awful mustache I was trying to trot out last spring.
- [120:42]
A
I hate it.
- [120:42]
B
The other day, I recirculated an interview with Drake May.
- [120:45]
A
I wanted to cgi it. I wanted to CGI the mustache out.
- [120:49]
B
I wanted to AI it. I couldn't. The mustache was there. And now I've got a nice little stubble.
- [120:56]
A
Perfect length.
- [120:57]
B
Going to have this for the rest of my life. Okay. Very, very, very, very important. It's a part of confidence.
- [121:04]
A
It's a part of looking good.
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B
It's a part of being on TV.
- [121:07]
A
Manscape just leveled up with the Lawnmower 5 and the Chairman.
- [121:11]
B
Plus two powerhouses built for unmatched precision, comfort and control. Whether you're cleaning up before a night out, preparing for a big meeting, or getting ready for game day, Manscaped has the tools to help you look and feel your absolute best. These aren't your old school clippers. They're engineered for modern men who take pride in their daily routine. So upgrade your grooming gear and experience the difference. And now you can find Manscape products at your local Walmart.
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A
All the questions.
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I
What's with all the questions interrogated up here?
- [121:48]
F
That is hilarious. Because we want him until like 1:45 every week. I bet after that he's just looking.
- [121:54]
A
Down at his clock. We're still going.
- [121:56]
B
The fuck's going on?
- [121:59]
A
Yeah, we it up. I guess it's one o'. Clock. Central is where he is, right?
- [122:03]
I
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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A
One o'. Clock. Pickup. Still got camera. Gus camera.
- [122:09]
I
Yeah, yeah. Gus is all full.
- [122:14]
A
Could you imagine him booping them underneath the table?
- [122:16]
D
Yeah.
- [122:16]
A
Hey, hey, hey, hey. Cloth ribbon on the way.
- [122:20]
F
What you want me to do, Gus?
- [122:21]
B
I'm trying to get the out of here.
- [122:22]
A
I mean, these guys can't take the hit. All right, so he picked Baltmore. Yeah, Baltmore. He's the best dude. College started that way. I would have taken.
- [122:33]
I
He could do it.
- [122:34]
A
Assistant coaching job at PIT. 25 years. They would offer. Definitely. I would do it.
- [122:38]
C
Taking it.
- [122:39]
A
You just give me a regular price, right, for the time that we're in for 20. Yeah, I'll take it. You just get what, medium price. Just the whole way it's calm place.
- [122:45]
D
Like Patricia on offense. Except times a thousand.
- [122:48]
A
Just creating a. A monster that there and then never leaving. Yeah, actually I'm just gonna stay coordinator here.
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F
Yeah, he could go Wisconsin right in his backyard.
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I
He played tight end himself. He was a tight end in college.
- [123:01]
A
Gosh, so is MCDC, so is Vrabel, so is J.J. watt. Dicka. So is Dicka.
- [123:11]
D
Mike McDaniel.
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A
He did not. Okay, you got you slot receiver.
- [123:17]
D
I was thinking.
- [123:17]
A
Yes, yes, exactly. He's running routes with McVeigh out there.
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D
Shout Out.
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A
You shout out. You shout out very smart people and shout out to the Miami Dolphins. All right, Gumpy, we're going to make our picks and let's get the hell out of here. Gumpy, you say what? As Tone tells us the percentage that is on the public and the percentage that is with the sports book and any other fun factoids about tonight's Thursday night football battle.
- [123:43]
C
Tonight the Ravens are minus seven, seven and a half heading down to Hard Rock. They are are getting 69% of the bets against this red which is the same exact percentage as the Chiefs on Monday night when they took care of business down there. It is seven and a half across the board. You cannot get it any other way.
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A
Okay, over. Under 51 and a half. Where's that rank amongst?
- [124:06]
F
That's pretty high.
- [124:06]
C
It's pretty high. NFL total especially. They're both over teams though.
- [124:10]
A
Go on. Go.
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D
Okay.
- [124:11]
C
Dolphins been over their defense look better last last week. Like I said, I've been saying it all week. They started using 6, 0 linemen. They averaged over 7 yards of play when they did that. They got to stick with it. But if they fall behind and they get pass happy, that's when they're going to get into trouble.
- [124:25]
A
Your confidence level pretty high.
- [124:28]
C
I've been so negative when they lose that since they won and look so good, I got to ride the wave. I got to support the boys right now. Malik Washington touchdown tonight is plus 400. I think he's been the second guy since Tyreek has got hurt. He returns kicks and punts. He's electric six rounder out of Virginia last year. I love him.
- [124:45]
A
I had a baby. Go Marlon. Humpy play. Do we know don't playing ping pong. Yes, that's what I'm saying.
- [124:54]
F
Not playing ping pong.
- [124:55]
D
He's on that field.
- [124:55]
A
They're not playing ping pong over there. I we appreciated Lamar being the one coming out and saying it was me. We were taking the TVs out here too. I'm about sick. We don't need to.
- [125:03]
D
Yeah, Mr. Steve.
- [125:04]
A
We're all doing. Mr. Steve, thank you for the TVs. Mr. Steve. We love, love these TVs but just can't have more. Take the remotes, unplug them. It can't have power to the locker room. We need to lock in. They do. But people think they're going to. People think they're going sportsbooks think they're going to lock in and go on a run. I think that's just because of our belief on who this Baltimore Ravens team is even though this year with our eyes. And we're getting pretty deep in the season now. Okay. We still have mid season awards. Okay. We're getting pretty deep into the season. Our eyes are kind of telling us something that maybe they aren't who we thought they were. And does that make sense? Because we haven't seen them with Lamar over the last few weeks. No. So that's why tonight on Prime Time with the World watching Lamar returned to Miami. He's going to go absolutely ham. AJ Hawk, is that what you're expecting from Lamar Jackson?
- [125:51]
I
Yes, that would be my prediction. I'm taking the Ravens minus seven and a half on the road tonight. I think Lamar, I think he comes out there and, you know, he's a jolt of energy for this Ravens team and they play well in all things.
- [126:02]
A
I will be doing the exact same, strictly because I've been, you know, traveling with a Miami Dolphins fan. I feel like I know this Dolphins team pretty well. I feel, I feel like I, I know their players. I know the way they operate. I know the way ownership likes to operate. I know the way general manager slash president slash guy who has a lot of say for a long time down there likes to operate. Just certain things, I think. Not necessarily, necessarily every single day of his life or their lives, just their worst decisions. For sure. I'm hearing about those on a regular basis and in my eyes see some stuff and it's like, yeah, that seems to match up with everything that I'm hearing from, you know, lifelong fan of team who is just, what are we doing? What do we do from the off season when they trade away all their good players and then said, yeah, we're trying to try to win this year? It's like, well, yeah, we got to figure it out. Did you guys get rid of like the, the drama that was. And no, no, still on. Yeah, we got rid of actually the, the people that like this team and we're like, like, proud to be on the team. So it's like, okay, so what is the plan down there? And then it starts going the way that it's going and you immediately think to yourself, like, I guess Miami Dolphins fans could probably say that this was going to be ass from the very beginning, but they had a blind optimism strictly because they had seen success in the past. And in my eyes, they have a huge win against Falcons that was awesome. Massive, huge win. Is that enough to just swing the pendulum, to be able to stop the Lamar Jackson momentum that's coming that everybody's expecting, including sportsbooks who are risking a lot of money by saying they think he's going to come back and dominate. And they seemingly are right on a regular basis. I, I like the Baltimore Ravens as well. And this Miami Dolphins experiment thing, it's going to be fun to talk about like 10 years from now. It is good because they could still become. They have all the talent down there for sure. And legitimately, just like Dolphins fans were able to sell themselves on this Dolphins team. That's still all there. Now, granted, no Tyreek Hill, so that is a game changer for his electricity. But still offensive innovation. A quarterback that can make great decisions, get the ball out quickly, defense can make some stops. We got some special teams. We've been able to win games in the past. It's like this Dolphins team has everything that could get. And waddle is faster than everybody still. And you know, we, we hope to see a lot of waddle in. We hope you waddle with a waddle in the end zone a couple different times just because he is electrifying so you can get caught up in the. Wait a minute. The Miami Dolphins are the team and maybe they are. And maybe tonight they prove it to everybody that what you had seen with them isn't actually who they is. And then on the flip side of that, maybe last week was the anomaly, you know, possible. And maybe this Baltimore Ravens team figures out how to play defense. Yeah, I like the Baltimore Ravens tonight, my seven half, strictly because I can bet on Lamar Jackson with clear conscious. It's tough for me to do that on the other side. That's fair.
- [128:55]
C
There was one other massive change last week. Frank Smith, the OC first time in two years he was down on the field with the guys.
- [129:01]
A
He's talking about the boys.
- [129:03]
C
And he was actually the reason Darren Waller said he'd only come out of retirement to play for him or John Gruden. So that made a big difference last week as well. Best the offense has looked all year.
- [129:12]
A
Coach Smith down on the sideline.
- [129:15]
C
Frank, you said Big Frank Smith?
- [129:17]
A
Yeah. Francis Smith. They say whenever he's around. Yeah, the boys feel it, everybody.
- [129:22]
C
I just didn't want to leave anything out. Wait, is Big Mike calling plays or is Big Frank calling plays?
- [129:26]
A
What's that?
- [129:27]
C
Big Mike McDaniel calling plays or it's Big Frank Place?
- [129:30]
A
It's a Mike and Frank duo. Okay.
- [129:33]
D
I think it's Little Mike too, since we have a Big Mike.
- [129:36]
A
Big Mike was great on the show today.
- [129:38]
D
Yeah. Yeah.
- [129:40]
A
He was so good today.
- [129:41]
I
You think he's going duck hunting.
- [129:43]
A
I mean he's got a 11 time award winning dog. Yeah. You know, so like if he was, if he was not duck hunting, that'd be wasting that dog.
- [129:51]
D
Yeah.
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A
Like actually, you know what I mean?
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I
And all you got to train them. That's what a dog's trained to do. You need to take. Take him out and that's what he wants. It's his drive.
- [129:57]
A
All that dog wants to do is just go get a. Go get a bird.
- [130:00]
E
Yes.
- [130:02]
A
Wakes up. How much longer until I get a chance to go get this bird.
- [130:05]
C
He just wakes up. See bird get bird.
- [130:07]
A
Bingo.
- [130:08]
C
Just like AJ woke up. Sea ball get ball.
- [130:09]
A
AJ actually woke up and said let me punish myself in his weight room for two hours to showcase that I still have discipline and I'm humble. Then let me go dead.
- [130:17]
C
Se ball get.
- [130:18]
I
Yeah.
- [130:20]
A
Then he, when he got drafted, he was coming right out of the weight room.
- [130:22]
E
They said he was.
- [130:24]
A
I'll never forget it. AJ comes in dripping. Dripping and sweat for a workout. I say, do you want to go through this? You go, no. I assume my agent got it as.
- [130:32]
I
Yep.
- [130:33]
F
Sign off a dotted line.
- [130:34]
A
I just want to play football and lift weight.
- [130:36]
C
Point me in the weight room.
- [130:37]
A
Click clack, dude. Also, they're paying me, so.
- [130:40]
I
You're right. Yeah, always.
- [130:42]
A
Hey, you had a good click like moment there for a long time. That was a good ad campaign.
- [130:45]
D
Oh yeah, fantastic.
- [130:46]
A
That was really good. I'm so we're still talking about it. The Youngs would never understand.
- [130:51]
F
No.
- [130:51]
A
When Click clack came through. Changing cleats game. Dude.
- [130:55]
I
First year they. Yeah, first year they, they had football cleats. Was my rookie year.
- [130:59]
A
Was another game changing commercial with sounds. The Squeak basketball.
- [131:03]
F
Yeah. The Nike basketball ones.
- [131:05]
D
Yep. The.
- [131:06]
I
The Budweiser frogs.
- [131:07]
E
Great one.
- [131:08]
A
Great.
- [131:09]
D
The basketball. So Christmas jingle where they're shooting threes and it's just.
- [131:13]
A
Oh yeah, the Bells.
- [131:14]
I
Clyde Dales. Clydesdales during Christmas. Christmas time.
- [131:17]
H
Yep.
- [131:18]
B
Good sounds for Coca Cola.
- [131:20]
A
That was kind of a cook clack too. Those are good super bowl commercials. They need to do that. I'm not getting anybody.
- [131:26]
D
I mean Bud Lights, dude.
- [131:28]
F
Yeah. Well, it was kind of short lived.
- [131:30]
C
Apple had a run where they were.
- [131:32]
F
The one where the. The guy basically just goes around and like his buddies are doing stuff that pisses him off and he just keeps saying like dude and you know, it's.
- [131:40]
A
Like a. Ah, yeah.
- [131:41]
F
Those were classic.
- [131:41]
A
And it was the other one Budweiser had the. Was.
- [131:45]
E
Yeah.
- [131:45]
A
Yeah.
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I
That was huge.
- [131:48]
A
Yeah. That was the Dudley boys. Right? Well, Then more so afterwards. The Dudley boys, I think it was 3D.
- [131:55]
C
Apple had a good run where they were just, like, coming out with banger songs that no one had ever heard of before, but they were sick.
- [132:00]
A
Yeah, that was great. Come along. Yeah, that was one of them. Still listen to it every single day from the moment I heard it on him. Yeah. Where do they. Oh, that's Jimmy. I. I guess.
- [132:11]
D
Yeah. Apple music.
- [132:12]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [132:12]
C
He's got beer.
- [132:13]
A
Yeah, that's what they say. There's other people who say. He couldn't hear my. Could he? I saw those on here. But, hey, you're always going to have that. Governor Jeff Landry. Thanks for stopping by today.
- [132:22]
B
Thank you.
- [132:22]
D
Legend.
- [132:23]
A
Busy man, busy man. It's going to have to change all of everything. Yeah. And also a gator, too. Going to have to die during that.
- [132:31]
C
Yes, they are.
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A
Ain't that right, aj?
- [132:35]
I
That's absolutely, absolutely right. Does he have his own gator farm, do we know?
- [132:40]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [132:42]
I
Yes, you're right. He does. He rules all the land. He can go wherever he wants.
- [132:45]
A
Louisiana. Louisiana. Yeah. We can go hunt that swamp.
- [132:52]
I
Hey, dude got an airboat parked in his front driveway.
- [132:55]
A
I've been down in Louisiana. I went hoggin, Froggin and Holland.
- [133:00]
D
Right.
- [133:02]
I
Definitely went home rolling.
- [133:03]
A
Yeah. Yeah.
- [133:04]
B
Whatever it's called.
- [133:05]
D
Yeah.
- [133:06]
I
You're plugging holes. Yeah. You go plug holes.
- [133:08]
A
Oh, it's called noodling.
- [133:09]
C
Noodling.
- [133:10]
D
Noodling.
- [133:12]
A
Yeah. Shouldn't be doing that around gators, they say.
- [133:14]
C
And don't stick your noodle in a hole.
- [133:16]
A
Yeah, Nice. That is what they say. And it's. Yeah, I think that is what they say. Banana to mouth, not mouth to banana.
- [133:25]
F
Bingo.
- [133:25]
A
Let's just say. All right, all right. Here we go. That's what they say.
- [133:32]
I
I think either way, it might look similar.
- [133:34]
C
Nope.
- [133:35]
A
Yep. You tried out that tone.
- [133:36]
I
Show us. Show us tone.
- [133:38]
C
I'm not your guinea, guinea banana.
- [133:40]
A
Jeez.
- [133:42]
D
No, you're my guinea banana.
- [133:45]
A
Okay.
- [133:46]
F
All right.
- [133:47]
G
Get it.
- [133:47]
A
I'm Italian. Hey, a little bit. A little bit.
- [133:58]
C
It's Halloween. You can say whatever you want.
- [133:59]
A
Happy Halloween, everybody.
- [134:00]
F
Happy Halloween.
- [134:01]
A
Happy Halloween's got a new mustache, new face. You see that age. That's a big day.
- [134:06]
I
Yeah, it looks good.
- [134:06]
E
It does look.
- [134:07]
I
Honestly, every time you cut, it looks very different. It's weird.
- [134:10]
C
It's true.
- [134:11]
F
Yeah.
- [134:11]
D
Beard to mustache does kind of change.
- [134:13]
A
He went. Didn't you just go beard, full beard to nothing on us one time? Did that happen?
- [134:19]
I
I think it was Tom Selleck, right now.
- [134:21]
C
That's cool.
- [134:22]
A
Oh, you do look good. That's a good beard or mustache.
- [134:25]
C
He dated Monica Geller.
- [134:26]
A
Hey, J.C. took that thing.
- [134:28]
C
Yeah, I told him we gotta take it down.
- [134:30]
A
You see Skelly's here. Nice return, man.
- [134:34]
I
So those kids took that giant thing out of AQ's yard and brought it back, obviously.
- [134:38]
A
Yeah. One of them. They tried to get two of them, but that's some of the. On the other side fought back.
- [134:42]
I
We got. Oh, sorry. We got trick or treat tonight.
- [134:44]
A
And it's good.
- [134:45]
I
It's been a monsoon since last night. It's still going. Yeah.
- [134:48]
A
Tonight. I thought it was on Friday. Everybody does.
- [134:49]
I
No, come on. It's so high. You don't trick or treat on Friday night. Because there's high school football on Friday night. No, there's. No one's ever done that here.
- [134:56]
D
God, that's awesome.
- [134:57]
A
I didn't think about that.
- [134:58]
D
Love that.
- [134:58]
C
You're lost, brother.
- [135:00]
A
Wait a minute.
- [135:00]
I
No, we don't. Trick or treat's a great added weeknight. That feels like a weekend night.
- [135:04]
A
No, definitely. In my mind, in my head. And I think back as a young lad, young boy, I think about middle of the week. Halloween is what I think about.
- [135:13]
C
When we were young, it actually never fell on the weekend.
- [135:16]
A
I don't know if that's true or not. Stat.
- [135:18]
F
It did kind of feel like.
- [135:19]
A
It felt like that though.
- [135:20]
F
Yeah.
- [135:20]
A
Yeah. Because you go school, obviously do the thing and then you have the night. It was like a full.
- [135:25]
F
Feel like shit at school the next day.
- [135:26]
C
Always.
- [135:27]
F
Because you ate so much candy the night before.
- [135:28]
A
Exactly. Felt so cool. Staying up real, real late. Yeah. Yeah. Also hustling. This one's for my brother is sick. You know, two different pillowcases. He's at home. He wasn't able to call this for my brother. He's sick. Got the flu. It's terrible. Thank you. Big. They got big candy bars here. As my brother. My sister too.
- [135:48]
I
Yep.
- [135:49]
A
Have to go and collect these things. What a time. Halloween was legendary.
- [135:53]
B
Yeah.
- [135:54]
A
So fun. So much happened around Halloween. When you just look back in your. In my life, at least so many. I mean, college. Jesus Christ.
- [136:02]
B
Yeah.
- [136:02]
H
I mean.
- [136:02]
A
Yeah, right?
- [136:03]
F
Dude.
- [136:03]
A
Morgantown. Halloween. I know. There's other places to talk about it. There everybody was celebrating. Yeah. Yeah. There's. There's people that don't celebrate Halloween. I'm like, what happened? Crazy.
- [136:13]
C
Did you know that if you go to a Catholic school the day after Halloween is always off? Also Saints day.
- [136:17]
A
Brilliant. Some of these things are just really smart.
- [136:21]
D
Yeah.
- [136:22]
A
Some of these. What's tonight though? Oh, no. Last night.
- [136:26]
C
No, Devil's Night.
- [136:28]
A
Which started in Detroit. Detroit, Michigan. Sorry. Tonight is Devil's Night, which I. I think. I don't know. The way we kind of viewed it as young reckless teens was purge basically. Okay.
- [136:39]
D
Yeah.
- [136:39]
A
So we can kind of just gonna do whatever we want. Can't kill anybody. But yeah, I mean, we can certainly run a little shot.
- [136:44]
I
No rules.
- [136:45]
D
Aside from that.
- [136:45]
A
Yeah, we can certainly do some stuff here. People are gonna be on guard. Gotta look for them. There's gonna be people waiting.
- [136:51]
I
My old man used to sit on.
- [136:52]
A
The front porch with a BB gun. Bingo. Those are the guys you can't run into. Yeah, that'll get you. That'll be a bad Devil's Night probably though you don't want any of those. You show up Halloween there in school. What happened, Mr. Moraldo? Nobody's ready. Nobody needs to be going there. Okay. Golly.
- [137:09]
D
Maybe drink some men.
- [137:10]
A
Yeah. Big Frank's out there with his boots and his. Yeah, that was. Those are good times, man. Halloween's a great holiday and I appreciate Taylor the one celebrating this morning.
- [137:21]
C
Yeah, he did a great job.
- [137:22]
A
That was great work. Six different costumes. I texted Will Compton middle of this. I'm like, yo, just kind of let him do it. Like it's. I think it's kind of his. It was like his. Because he did have.
- [137:32]
F
Oh yeah.
- [137:33]
A
He had a time hard hot dog in her that was going long haired biker. I didn't. From Tim Robinson.
- [137:39]
F
I believe that was supposed to be the Macho Man.
- [137:41]
D
Yeah.
- [137:42]
A
Savage or Hulkster.
- [137:43]
D
I forget which one.
- [137:44]
C
It was supposed to be Macho Man. He actually apologized for the low quality of it. Later.
- [137:48]
A
Holy man. Okay. That was the first one too, right, wasn't it?
- [137:52]
C
Yeah.
- [137:52]
A
Right out the gate. Oh, no.
- [137:54]
F
Should it can't be having to explain. You are right out the jump.
- [137:57]
C
He had good.
- [137:58]
A
This is Captain.
- [138:00]
F
Yeah, Captain Taylor.
- [138:02]
A
Yeah, yeah, I think that's was a good one. He was the pirate referee. Great one. Obviously. Average. Jo is good. These are good. Great. Will always see. Yeah, these are all good. Great cost the first one was.
- [138:13]
F
It was supposed to be Macho Man.
- [138:15]
A
Oh, I didn't know that. I wasn't watching at the time. I only saw the picture. Okay, I see it. D7.
- [138:23]
D
Yeah, I missed it.
- [138:25]
A
O. Yeah.
- [138:27]
F
See, I don't know if he even tried to do that.
- [138:29]
A
Smart he made but this what we're talking about here. Hey, good effort though.
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D
Good effort.
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A
I like that he did it. I like that he did it. I appreciate he loves Halloween. They got the Spooky. He's all in on Halloween. I really respect it. I do. Halloween good time man. Also, NFL teams all gathering.
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C
Yes.
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A
You can learn a lot about team Halloween party. That's good time. Middle of season check here. You know, you talk about like draft day where they're like birthday party. The whole conversation about that with that quarterback, quarterback coming out, it's like team check here. Halloween, how's it, how's it, how's it checking out? Which is why I think now, I think there were some punishments that were levied upon certain teams during COVID Whenever you saw some teams gathering, it was like, oh, these boys really like each other. Like don't you think so AJ I. I think that we can really judge a team from that. I think.
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D
Yeah.
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B
One of your.
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I
Absolutely. If I'm a head coach right now, I would, I would be, I mean I would be questioning the guys the next day or afterwards. Hey, how, how to go. I was a Halloween party guys and when you know, was a bit of a runaway. Maybe if you guys stay, hopefully you stayed, you know, you were safe. But I want you guys to have a good time together.
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A
Also. Who wasn't there. Can we talk about that? Who was it? Trade deadline.
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I
Who's pouting? Who's pouting? It didn't show up.
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A
Trade deadlines Tuesday. So who, who Just so we can get a nice little send them out of this entire. I don't want to say you're getting traded because you're not the Halloween party. Obviously people have lives and families and like that. But on that note, if there is somebody that is not maybe playing as well and also not getting along with the boys, I'm not saying that's going to immediately leave to a trade, but it certainly wouldn't affect it.
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F
Think about it.
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A
It certainly wouldn't affect. And then there's some, I don't know, maybe not anymore. But there was an era of people making decisions about teams that didn't even think about whether or not these humans would get along or like each other or they like minded. Like that is something that was happening for a little bit. Feels like we've kind of gone away from that. From every gatekeeper we talk to at least A.J.
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I
Don'T you think you'd hope so they at least say they do they at least claim that they're worried about the character and if the person how they're. How they would fit in the locker room. I think they, I think the majority of the, the guys bringing people in absolutely do think about that. I don't think everybody does, but the majority do.
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I think you have to. I think Halloween is a good thermometer because maybe if I can. Like cards you give back to the whole team. Yeah, that's good. How many? There was no Halloween party. Who hosted Halloween party? One of the trainers had a gather. Nobody on what quarterback didn't even. Oh, no.
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C
Do we think your controversial guest held a Halloween party this year?
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A
He always does, right?
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F
He does love Halloween.
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A
He. He was. He actually got into a little bit of a quagmire.
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F
He did get into a bit of.
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A
A quagmire because his very public stance on which part of the entire jab he was on certainly said you're not allowed to gather around the others. If you. That's how you're going to operate with your things inside your body.
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F
Yeah.
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C
Was he right in the end of the day?
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A
Well, listen, everybody's going to be right somehow. I don't know. But I think he certainly feels vindicated by a lot of things he has seen and read.
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F
Yeah, absolutely feels vindicated.
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A
Yeah. But everybody else. Everybody's good, right? Which goes back to. You guys need a scoreboard over there. Okay. They need a scoreboard. In politics, I don't know the world. Okay. Politics, world. Well enough. I've gotten to the point now where I've gotten a chance to chat with people that have dabbled in their world, whether it's former teammates of mine going all the way in. Okay.
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F
How's he doing?
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A
Great.
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D
Now he's watching.
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A
Yeah, he's great now. But also, you know, from different events that we've been at where we've had a quick interaction, maybe a quick pepper of a question. And I do utilize, I think people would say that are around me in these moments. I utilize this time with these people. Do ask questions that I assume most people would not ask. Like I very much have a. Oh, fuck, I don't know if I'm ever going to see this person again. Gotta get it out. Gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta get it out. So I've had a lot of those moments in the entirety. That world is just. No. It feels like there's no winning, but also somehow there's no losing. I don't know how that even works. I don't know how that works. Everybody's spinning that they're saving the world and everybody has somehow stats that they're saving the world. And if you have that, you're never going to get somebody to disagree or change their opinion. So I don't. They need a Scoreboard age. They need a scoreboard. People say, election day scoreboard. It's like, yeah, but does everybody listen to that and pay attention?
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I
Who's tallying. Who's tallying the scoreboard?
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A
Is the question.
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I
Who's putting the numbers up?
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A
Yeah. And what's a point?
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I
Yeah, because what's a. What's a great thing for one person? And they're his whole group. The other group's going to come out and say, you're killing babies. Like, that's just how it works.
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A
Yeah. There's always a very strong counter elect. Strong. What's that?
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C
We need to elect a grand scorekeeper.
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I
They do a point one. Like Jeff Lander. We do a point one.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah. Well, he's not going to make decision, but maybe the people that he puts together, who does every.
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C
We just need. Who does everybody like Nick Sa.
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F
Boom.
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C
Nick Saban. He'll keep score.
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A
All right, one. Then they'll make a counter argument, make out a half. You got no points. You lost points. Why did you think about doing that? And that's part of the problem. As the counters start coming in, oh, no, you're ruining the world. Oh, no, you're the worst person. And then this. Oh, no, you're ruining. Yeah, but what about the good? Well, we're not keeping score on that. We're talking about what the worst possible outcome could be here. Because that's probably inevitable. That's why we love what we have here in sports. All right, Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Or in the states, thing together to the politician people. We appreciate your efforts. If your efforts are pure and you're trying to make everything good, without a doubt, which we'll just assume you all are knowing that's not true. We will assume and hope that that's the case. So we appreciate you all so much. Let's go ahead and get football and college sports figured out. Yeah, because you guys sent that over to the ncaa, they're never going to get that done right.
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I
H. No chance.
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A
No chance. They're waiting on you guys. And then he said, well, why don't we meet? Yeah, that's what I think should happen.
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F
Exactly.
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A
And on that note, everybody should meet. Everybody should be meeting all the time. Let's be learning, let's evolving, let's work together. Let's be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team.
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B
Bye.
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A
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