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PMS 2.0 1443 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 9 Recap, MNF Preview, Adam Schefter, Clayton Kershaw, & Dan Orlovsky
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Pat McAfee
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode. The Thunderdome on this massive overreaction. Monday, November 3, 2025. This program begins right now. Football is majestic. We are so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day. And week nine of the NFL season has delivered. And tonight it wraps up as the Cardinals will travel into Jerry world take on the Dallas Cowboys. There are three and a half point favorites at espn. Bet you can get them at just three point favorites. Jacoby Briss will be a quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. Tyler maybe having some sort of role. Interesting situation over there. And then for Dallas, we just saw Stephen A in first take live from Jerry world. That looked like a sick setup down there. And anytime you get the playmaker on tv, it's fantastic. Cam Newton obviously bringing the juicer. Dan Orlovsky looking so damn nice, didn't he? Oh yeah, his complexion, he was glowing. His hair looked perfect. He'll be joining us in the second hour of today's show. Shay and obviously Stephen A doing his thing down there. Looks like a place though that's obviously ready for a primetime matchup. Looks like a place that knows that their team can be great. Will this week be the week where the Dallas Cowboys step up to the plate and become dominant against an Arizona Cardinals team who has lost a lot of games but they've all been pretty close. Arizona Cardinals can go into Jerry world. May really turn his place upside down. Get him big time dub on Monday Night Football with Jacoby Brissette leading the way. That's what we'll be chit chatting with Dan Orlovsky about in the second hour. Adam Schefter will be joining us here after the first 15. And then we'll also do baseball. Okay, we're going to go to baseball in the second hour. About 120. Jet passing is currently committed to us at 120. But we got calls into the Dodgers. So if there's any Dodgers players right before they hit their parade are able to join the show at about 1:20. We might have to put Jett push jet to tomorrow. Okay, might have to do that. Jett is learning about that right now as we speak. But we got some lines in the water over there for the Dodgers because we like to chit chat from the wonderful team that just went back to back to win the World Series.
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Ty Schmidt
Wow.
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Pat McAfee
Congratulations to them. People aren't happy about the way they went about winning it. But I'll tell you what, it's legal, it's allowed. They did it. Will they be the ones that caused some guardrails. The next negotiation on what these contracts could be. Is baseball about to transform completely from what they've been this entire time? Where at the top they're going to spend a lot of money. Blue Jays fifth highest payroll. Okay. Yeah. There's a lot of teams in a, in the league. Blue Jays fifth highs.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, they're up there.
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Pat McAfee
Everybody's calling them like Pittsburgh Pirates. People are talking about them like they're the Pirates. Pirates way down here. Pittsburgh where I'm from, Pirates. Wait, don't spend any money. So you got Pirates fans that love baseball. Okay, we love baseball. Got a lot of history here. And they're watching this Dodgers team winning. They're like they're paying one guy more than our entire, our entire roster is down here. How is this fair? Well, that's going to be the convo now. And because the Dodgers win and the Dodgers spend a lot of money, they're going to be looking for defenses as well. And they're going to say, well, the Mets spent more than all of us. They didn't even make the playoffs. So this is like a tush push conversation. If it's so easy just to spend money and win, well, how come the Mets aren't doing it? That's what the Dodgers say. It's a little bit different animal. We'll talk to Jet or a dodger at about 120. The toxic tables here at Boston corner. Hey, Patriots still going, still going.
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Connor Rogers
Longest win streak in the NFL right now. Let's keep going.
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Pat McAfee
Very real team up there in New England. Such a culture shift from last year to this year and another, you know, kind of stepping stone for Drake May is just being able to do it all the time and he does. Congrats to your Patriots. You have to be immensely happy with where you guys are at leading the division. Over there. Over there. Now anti at Ty Schmidt. Carolina Panthers, good football team.
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Ty Schmidt
Good football team.
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Pat McAfee
That's good football team.
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Connor Rogers
It is.
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Pat McAfee
I mean what a tough game to watch just optically. But no worries. On that note, Carolina Panthers, go football team. Not worried about the packers at all. Panthers, good football team.
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Connor Rogers
Sure.
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Pat McAfee
Top football team. Pretty football team.
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Ty Schmidt
Hard nosed football team.
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Pat McAfee
That's what they are. Yeah, yeah. Packers. Everything's okay. Yeah, everything's a Panthers go.
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Ty Schmidt
That's what happens when you play a good football team on Sunday. Sometimes you're gonna get beat. So yeah, boy, boy, that was tough to watch. But again, Carolina Panthers, Panthers, go football team.
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Pat McAfee
Rico, that's what you're saying to yourself. If you're the packers and by the way, Panthers might be. Yeah, I mean, actually, that was an ugly game on both sides, and you're gonna have to be able to win some of those games to be a great football team. Panthers, though, over the last month have shown a very different side. Now they lose. They have. They certainly haven't been perfect and things like that have happened. But with that team and what the culture they're building, they're not a bad football team. So I think a lot of people think back to when the panthers were selling 15 tickets and there was nobody at the games, and they think that they're completely ass. So whenever they beat the packers or something like that, packers fans go, we lose to the pan. Panthers.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Are you kidding me?
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Ty Schmidt
Thirteen and a half point favorites.
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Pat McAfee
That's why we got to remind people, hey, Panthers, go football team. That's good football team. Let's go to one half of the hammer. Cowboys. AP town. Might be a great football team. Might be a great football team over there in Pittsburgh. You know that Three River Town is obviously a football town, and they've been kind of skirting around the outskirts of mediocrity for a long time. Okay, we've been having winning seasons, but we haven't been able to go to the Super Bowl. We haven't been able to field a team that we can see in the season that we will have confidence in that can maybe make a run. This offseason, they changed the entire game plan for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They spent $30 million a year on a wide receiver that's never done anything from Pittsburgh. Trade them in from the Seattle Seahawks and DK Metcalf. They pay Aaron Rodgers 10 million a year, bring him in to be the quarterback, because they've been trying to figure it out. Darius Slade, Jalen Ramsey, John who? Smith. You're talking about making plays all over the field and all over the roster, basically signifying, hey, we're going all in. Cam Hayward, who's been there for a long, long, long time on defense, he said, I think we all kind of understand what's happening. You know, we don't know how much time we have left here, and we appreciate that the Steelers are going for it. And they played against the best team in the NFL.
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Tone Diggs
Yeah, they did.
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Pat McAfee
They play against the best team in the NFL. And whenever I started watching that game, I thought to myself, wow, we're going to win this thing pretty easily. Just like we all thought, maybe. The colts win by 60 with the way the Steelers defense is going And Danny Dimes comes out there and just bum, bum, bum, bum, bum. Daniel Jones, this guy just Daniel Jones just crushing it.
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Tone Diggs
7 Nothing, man.
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Pat McAfee
We're going to do it, we're going to kill it. Then all of a sudden your guys team just decided to start playing like everybody thought they were going to start playing. Steel Curtain was all the way back. Six forced turnovers, including obviously a muffed punt that is not able to be advanced. A lot of people from Pittsburgh are saying that should have been a touchdown. I thought Pittsburgh was a football town. You can't advance a muff. That has been a rule since the very beginning. If the ball is possessed, then fumbled, you can take it. But if it just hits, somebody cannot be advanced. Just like in an onside kick. Like certainly what we saw yesterday. But a lot of Pittsburgh Steelers fans I think were seeing yesterday what they thought this team could. And Colts fans had no idea that they were just going to so happen to show up against us. But the little thing that nobody brought up and Bill Coward tried to tell us on Friday, he did, I'm going back down there, me and the boys, he said, going to be in the building, going to take a picture, hope I take a picture with me, Ben Aaron and Coach Tomlin and they do okay. Then they get obviously honored and recognized. This team right here, you know, Bussey's team that went into Detroit, his hometown, and wins a Super bowl to send him out of there. The amount of legends in Pittsburgh that are just on that, the amount of legends in this photo right here just goes on and on. People that you haven't even really thought of in a long time pop up in this photo and you're like, holy hell, that guy used to run this city if he really wanted to, let alone Bill Car going back in there was a lot of influence, I think, from what this team was and represented, which Pittsburgh people say, this is our city, this is exactly who we are. And then you watch that Steelers team yesterday, it did feel like they drew a little inspiration and we should have remembered that and thought of that and maybe called ahead of time and said, hey, can we do this another game? You know, another game maybe instead of against the Indianapolis Colts, because we haven't been able to beat Steelers for a long time. This is supposed to be a get back game for all the times that I played against Pittsburgh Steelers and we just got absolutely killed. Instead it was very much similar. The same seven point ball game, okay? You can't win any game with seven turnovers. Seven point ball, game ball game, seven point ball game. Yeah, we kicked field goal with 13 seconds left and then we had to attempt an onside kick. And then we would have been a Hail Mary if we would have got it. But instead DK Metcalf, I believe, pulls it down and it's game said match. But the Pittsburgh Steelers, this is exactly who you guys thought you could potentially be. Is this, is this what the Steelers thought and hope they could be? And guess what? There's enough time left in the season for this to become the reality for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Tone Diggs
Yes, it is who we all thought the defense could be. And they. The frustrating part about the last two weeks is they've. The previous weeks they had shown flashes of that, that they can do this, this could be the defense that they could be. And in the last two weeks, they just got absolutely torched. And I think it was Dan Orlofski who came on earlier last week and said, like, the Steelers defense is just. They're doing more than I've ever seen them do, meaning getting into multiple personnel sets, different coverages, and they were screwing themselves yesterday. Yeah, yesterday they had Jalen Ramsey playing safety and then Kyle Duggar, who they just traded for coming and play safety. And they simplified everything. They were playing fast. They were flying around obviously creating turnovers. And then you talked about that, that 2005 team being in the building. There's a lot of people saying Dick LeBeau came straight from that picture, straight to the sideline to coach the defense yesterday. But no, like they're now two and oh, on the season when creating, creating five plus turnovers. So, you know, if we could get five plus turnovers each game, the offense did just enough to, to, you know, punch in after those turnovers. But no, that whole team being there, the defense flying around yesterday, it was an awesome, it was a good win. It was a good reset win.
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Pat McAfee
Here's the Steelers this season. They have 63 points off of turnovers. That's the most in the NFL. These are some Hembo stats and they have 16 takeaways, which is the second most. But their defense ranks 25th in points per drive whenever it doesn't result in a takeaway. So there's a lot left on the bone, you know, play by play, says Hembo for the Pittsburgh Steelers team. But man, they looked a lot better than they had looked. And as soon as you put the eyes on that team start to fly around. It's like, this is what the Steelers fans all envision whenever we were at training camp. This is exactly what they were thinking about and Aaron Rodgers having quite a moment on multiple moments. It's like they can do it. Feels like they feel they could do it. And the Colts seven point loss. Hey, it's our second loss of the season. These things are going to happen. Let's Danny Dimes had some incredible throws, had some tough moments. There was some maybe a little miscommunication on some routes and stuff like that. Can't be muffin punts. There's a lot of misfortune too, and it might be because the 2005 team was there, but I think the Colts have all taken the right mindset. They're heading over to Germany. Okay. And we need nine turnovers. And that's not nine the number, that's nine. No turnovers in the German language this upcoming. Congrats to the Steelers.
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Tone Diggs
Thank you.
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Pat McAfee
Congrats to the Steelers. Steelers. Really good football team.
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Ty Schmidt
Very good football team.
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Pat McAfee
What really good segues that we have found, huh? Well, it's nowhere near accurate to the timer please, in the lower right corner of the screen. Now it's nowhere near accurate with the time. You know this says 15 minutes. It's called the first 15. But remember, first 15 means scripted plays.
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Ty Schmidt
That's right.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
His first 15 plays, the drive is ball. Nobody's saying, hey, first 15 plays that need to be like in the first minute and a half or two minutes of the game. No, no, because that drive might extend first 15 plays driven by Ram, which whenever you hit the gas pedal in one of those Ram trucks, the only sweet sound that you can hear is you ride clouds, obviously. And we're floating on clouds whenever we get a chance to talk about ball for the first 15 scripted plays of the program. That has gone 42 minutes. But let's go ahead and hit that clock. Start that clock right about now. Top five headlines from NFL Week 9 Sunday slate. Well, the NFL found its fastball, did they not? Nine out of the 12 games in yesterday's slate were one score games. Remember, this follows a historically ass weekend for the NFL. The NFL only had one outcome last weekend that was within a one score game. It was the worst week of NFL football since 1970. That's 55 years. Then Thursday night goes the way that it goes and all of a sudden you're kind of shit talking the NFL offices. Oh, you guys might have lost it. First time in 55 years. Now he's going to go back to back. Oh no. Are you guys turning into soccer?
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Ty Schmidt
Oh no.
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Pat McAfee
Oh no. Is that what's happening to the NFL. And then all of a sudden, the NFL calls back and says, we up, baby. What a week. What a slate. Let's go to Bengals. Bears. Now. This one was absolute insanity. Let's head right to an onside kick here. 41, 35. The Bengals had just scored to make this a one score game. Need an onside kick. McPherson goes to bend one back. It's not going to go 10 yards. Ah, it doesn't matter. Touches the foot of a Bears player. Bengals recover. Joey Flack has a chance to bring them back because this guy gave a toe tap to the ball. Bengals rock. Joey Flack's got it. Now hold on. Everybody understands what's about to take place. Joey Flack walks him down the field. Maybe too fast. Maybe too fast. Delivers an absolute seed to Andre Josivas. Incredibly cool tatted man, T. Higgins head. Massive game. Jamar massive. Chase Brown. Massive Josivas, massive game. No punts. This team unstoppable. No, I don't think so. You can't give Caleb Williams 50 seconds in one timeout. Caleb marches down the field. Third and 10. We pick up on his own 28. Scrambling doing some Caleb. This man walked in to the NFL with the ability to electrify. People were calling him maybe the next Mahomes. Had we seen it yet? No. Harry picks up a huge first down, continues to drive. Now in zone 42. First and 10. 25 seconds left. No timeouts. We just spent it. What's he going to do with it? Oh, how about the first tight end drafted? Colston Loveland over the middle. One tackler, two tackler. No tacklers gone. Colston Lovlin scores a game winning touchdown after nobody decides to cover him or tackle him. Them in the most important part of the game, the final minute of the fourth quarter. And the Chicago Bears steal a dub in Cincinnati away from Joey Flack and the Bengals. What a drive by Caleb Williams. Now a lot of people are going to say that Bengals defense is ass.
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Connor Rogers
Oh, man.
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Ty Schmidt
Certainly a lot worse.
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Pat McAfee
A lot of guys on that defense saying, for the love of God, you get me out of here. Yeah, there are four guys in the last six months. Trade me. Trade me. Okay, not happening a lot. Normally it's like agents and teams behind the scenes having conversations. Now it's being made public. Boom. Get me the hell out of town. Boom. Get me the hell out of town. Boom. I'm not signing this contract. That's kind of how it's been for the Bengals on defensive side, let alone with Trey Hendrickson whenever this whole thing Started draft, Super bowl radio row. I mean, here in the history of the NFL, allowing 160 on the ground and 260 through the sky, one of those or the other is going to be a glaring weakness. People are going to attack it. Well, the Bengals defense says, actually, we'll do both. Let's go ahead and let them do both. Hey, you have it your way around here. Yeah, you can have it your way. You want to go on the ground, Be fucking best in the league. You got it. You want to go through the sky, be the best in the league, you got it. And it's almost as if this was predictable. Was this predictable? I mean, I don't know.
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Tone Diggs
Interesting.
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Pat McAfee
Didn't we. The whole conversation the offseason was, you pay two number ones, which they are.
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Tone Diggs
Yes. Very good.
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Pat McAfee
If T. Higgins would have went to another team to be their number one, he would be.
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Dan Orlovsky
Yep.
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Pat McAfee
By far the number one. And Jamar, same exact, for sure. Unbelievable. Pay Joey Burrow now he's hurt. Got Joe Flacco. Good news.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
He'd come here, kind of do the same thing. He's absolutely crushing it. Pay him. Okay. Can you win like that? Everybody was saying going into the year, everybody was saying your defense wasn't good. What you do on that side? He said, we got a new DC Has a guy really ever done. We got a new dc See how.
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Ty Schmidt
Good Notre Dame's defense was last year?
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Connor Rogers
Good than that.
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Pat McAfee
Has he ever. We got new D.C. don't worry about. And they've just been ass. And everybody that saw the way they built their team going into the season says, yeah. It's almost as if every football person told you that's not how you can actually win football games in football, especially in 2025 when the Eagles just proved that what you need to do is run the ball, stop the run. And the Bengals said, we'll be able to throw it, though a lot, and we might not be able to stop the run or the pass, which is what stats are saying. But that defensive side was glaring weakness going into season, and now it's turning into kind of biting them in the ass. And on that note, Caleb Williams. Okay.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Can't leave Caleb that much. No.
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Ty Schmidt
Had it.
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Pat McAfee
Can't leave Caleb that much time because he has the number. The first tight end drafted right there down the middle. Good for Colson. Lovely.
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Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
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Connor Rogers
Big day.
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Pat McAfee
Big day for Colson. Love. Especially videos coming out of training camp. You know, where he's singing, them boys going crazy then in the locker room, as soon as he gets a game ball. I don't know if you saw the defense, everybody went crazy for him. It's like, wow, they love this guy in there. It is very cool. That's a good culture building win for the Chicago Bears.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah. Not to mention Ben Johnson's the finding the five in his pocket that was. I mean, you talk about coaches that have a sense of humor after a victory. Ben Johnson, one of one, knocked that out of the park.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. We like. And I appreciate the fact that he's super intense.
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Ty Schmidt
Yes.
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Pat McAfee
And the boys know that. So in a couple moments in the post game speech, Ben Johnson, his delivery, pretty intense. Boys know it's a lighting, lightful moment. So you go, hey, yeah, yeah. A lot of those from the boys there, you know, kind of keeping it light. Feels like they have built their culture. At the beginning, this was what appeared to be a train wreck. Wasn't going to work. His mindset, Caleb's mindset, the building's mindset, this isn't going to work. And all anybody wondered is how is this guy the bell of the ball for coaching and why would he go to Chicago? It feels like the complete opposite of what he would want. How's this ever going to work? And here they are. It's working. Yeah. Congrats to Chicago Bears making a great play now. Huge win over the Bengals. That was just one of the incredible finishes around the NFL. Let's go to the Panthers upsetting the Packers 7 6. Third Quarter Ass Game to watch. Rico Dowdell. The Rico act says, hold on. Only two. Only two. One. Ooh. Two. All right, that's good. No worries, right? Turn the sound on, please. The ref said actually personal foul. Super unsportsman. 15 yards. They backed that extra point up. 15. They missed that extra point. Yeah. Okay, so all of a sudden the double pump actually starts affecting. Oh, no. I thought that was okay. Well, key and Peel said it was okay. I don't know if this said NFL ref said it was okay. We all believed that two was good. Three. Way too much. These refs said. One, two. We want none.
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Connor Rogers
Come on.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. We want none of the hip thrust. Nonetheless, 1313 packers were able to make it a tie ballgame. Let's go to Bryce Young. Second and 10, 118 left in the fourth quarter. When Bryce was coming out into the NFL Draft. Draft. They said, this dude's a Steph Curry of this draft. An absolute steal. Well, he finds the Irish use Tenerel McMillan wide ass open. Good first down. Let's go to second and ten now later, give it to Rico Dal Dell. This dude is unstoppable. Ty might be the best player to ever play football.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, certainly the best player in the NFL this year by far. But yes, I think you could argue he's the best football player of all time.
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Pat McAfee
So they find themselves into field goal territory. Ryan fitzgerald from 49, give me that. 48 was the extra point that he missed earlier. 49 was the game winner. And the Carolina Panthers beat the Green Bay packers in a walk off in Lambeau. What a moment. What a time. And Ty, the Panthers are good football team.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I mean they, they dominated this game or controlled it. Dominated, I guess is one way of saying it because it was a one score game and it took a field goal to beat him. But, but I think the packers only had three possessions in the first half. They just knew exactly what they needed to do to win. They knew it was potentially going to come down to a field goal. And on the flip side, you know, the, the packers, once again, special teams kind of kills them, whereas special teams could have killed the Panthers. But what a, what a kick by rookie Ryan Fitzgerald. It was massive. And when he was lining up for it, every packers fan knew there was a 0% chance that he was going to miss that.
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Pat McAfee
Let's go to the next game in the NFC North Vikings, Detroit Lions, fourth quarter, 141. Lions only have one timeout. First down wins it. JJ McCarthy in a bucket to Nailer. JJ scored a touchdown on the ground. He threw a couple. JJ had some inaccurate passes where he missed like by 10 yards. And then whenever the moments, the biggest, JJ locks in and makes a play. His teammates love him. Okay. All the way back from high school, IMG they loved him. College at Michigan, they loved him. And in Minnesota, they love him. He comes into the locker room, boys go crazy. I think his leadership is one of the aspects of him that makes everybody say he is the guy in Minnesota. I think he acts like a guy, they treat him like a guy. And on the field he's able to win these games and he has so much, so much up and to the right. I mean you, if he takes the trajectory Josh Allen took in the offseason, and I know we're comparing a lot of people to Josh Allen and we saw Josh Allen.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah, that's what you want.
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Pat McAfee
That's. So that is what you're looking for. But if he takes the trajectory of Josh Allen in his off seasons, he gets more accurate. If he's able to get a little bit more accurate, especially with his leadership and his work ethic that everybody says if he's able to stay healthy, it's like, jj, hey, all of a sudden you start looking at that draft class and it's like, holy shit, that might be the best draft class of all time. Go ahead, comment.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah, and he's a sicko. Like when Kevin o' Connell's giving him the game ball after in the locker room, like after they walk it in. Everything like him losing his mind before getting the game ball. Awesome. The team reacting to him doing that was really cool. And just him living up to the moment. Like how many times in the last two have teams gone into into Detroit and beaten them? Like we talked about The Lions being 13 and 3 in primetime games since the MCDC era has started. Like typically the Lions rise to the occasion. The fact that they did it, especially since we were kind of, at least I was kind of talking a bit of junk about him not playing last week when Carl Wentz had a baby on the way and one arm. Like for him to show up like, that was incredible.
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Pat McAfee
27, 24, 27 points against the Detroit Lions team. Now I know what you know. It wasn't the prettiest. There was some blocked kick. There was a block kick. There was a turnover. You get it? There was good field position. But J.J. mcCarthy in Minnesota get a win over the Detroit Lions, which is crazy to think about, especially to your point. Connor, about the convo, about J.J. here's a little stat from Hembo here. Nine plus point underdogs this season. Weeks one through eight, they were 0 and 10. Week nine, they were 2 and 2. Carolina and Minnesota netted the two largest upsets of the season just yesterday.
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Ty Schmidt
Wow.
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Pat McAfee
Congrats to Panthers. Damn good football team.
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Ty Schmidt
Damn good football team.
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Pat McAfee
JJ McCormick, Dorothy might be a for real NFL dude. Seems like every moment he needs to step in, he does. Congrats to the Vikings for them. And then the Jags and the Raiders go to overtime. Trevor Lawrence scores a touchdown on their first drive. So that's a big deal. Congratulations to Jacksonville Jaguars. They kick an extra point. They scored on their first drive. They're up seven. Now the Raiders get a chance to answer. They go down. Are they going to be able to score? 19 seconds left in overtime, they score a touchdown. Down one. One could opt to kick the extra point. They say for the good of football. We're going for two.
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Ty Schmidt
Love it.
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Pat McAfee
We love that move. Ultimately it gives them a loss though, instead of having a one at the end. Raiders decide to go for two. Pete Carroll says he was open for the good of ball. They went for two into that. We say thank you, Raiders.
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Ty Schmidt
Thank you. No more ties.
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Pat McAfee
And congrats to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Not only a huge win, but also Cam Little. This kicker out of Arkansas, drafted last year in the sixth round, has hit a 68 yard field goal in a regulation football game. He hit from 70 in preseason. And this dude Little hits big ass balls. I mean he is so incredibly impressive. Obviously he had to drive it a little bit. They say for the side angle. Didn't get blocked. Wasn't even close getting blocked. A lot of guys had their arms up. Obviously from 68, that thing would have been good. From 71, 72 yards. Unbelievable kick. And obviously we talk about Aubrey a lot. Cam Little hits massive balls. I mean, this dude just murders balls. In the new K ball institution that we're in right now, guys are hitting these long balls at a more accurate clip than they ever have. Guys are also attempting it more than they ever have before. And for those that are sleeping under a rock and maybe don't know this, the kickers are allowed to bring the balls to the game. Now. Used to come out of a box, have a 30 minute like session on when you're allowed to break it down. So it's a little beat up, but it wasn't too beat up. Now just like quarterbacks, kickers are allowed to bring their own balls. Have to pass an inspection for how hard it is. Obviously the amount of pressure in there and then what it looks like. And then guys now have gone 7 for 11 from 60 plus.
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Ty Schmidt
Crazy.
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Pat McAfee
And a 68 yard field goal has been hit and everybody's just assuming that a 70 yarder is on the way. So right now Cam Little has the record, but I think for the first time in the history of ball, we. It's not safe. Oh yeah, I do not think it's safe. Especially if you get a situation at the end of half. Okay, let's go to the number four headline as we got 132 left and we're through the first headline here. Injuries. We don't like them.
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Tone Diggs
No, we don't at all hate them. Actually.
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Pat McAfee
We despise them.
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Connor Rogers
Trying to get rid of them.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, multiple times. Yeah, multiple times. Joe Alt, obviously legend for that Chargers team. The way they play with him and without him, a little bit different. He leaves the game with an ankle. Travis Hunter last Friday was listed on the IR after getting hurt in Thursday's practice with a knee, obviously. T's and peace to all these dudes we're pulling for him, but these are electrifying. Very important. On that note, Jaden Daniels last night up 38. 7. It dislocates his elbow, it appears, and who knows what else whenever it comes out of testing. But that was nasty, especially for a guy that is as important to the game of football in the NFL right now as he is. Jaden is a big deal for football. We all like the way he plays. We all love watching him. They obviously didn't play their best game. They're down by a lot. He's on the field. Why is he on the field? If he's not on the field, though, people say he's not going down. Down with the ship. He ends up getting hurt. Don't love to see that. Tucker Craft, we were just singing his praises literally last week for taking over a game. He exits with a knee. And then obviously CJ Stroud got a concussion as well. Marshawn Lattimore and Luke McCaffrey, both from the Commanders, also get hurt. Broken collarbone for Luke. Lattimore has a knee. Michael Hoyt, Bill's linebacker out, Michael Williams for the 49ers. I mean, just this was a week that was a lot. A lot of big names, a lot of injuries. And we don't. We hate them.
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Ty Schmidt
Hate the word, hate them.
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Pat McAfee
All right, now, we have three more headlines still to go. Let's go to number three, headline the NFC west is a problem. Yeah, listen. Now, obviously tonight the Cardinals will play against the Cowboys. They have a losing record. Let's leave them out of this particular conversation. Even though, hey, a lot of football left.
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Ty Schmidt
That's right.
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Pat McAfee
A lot of football left. Who knows what they're going to have to do. Matthew Stafford's number four right now. Now in the MVP conversation. Okay, Matthew Stafford, currently, odds are, fourth to win the mvp. He's been put. Pukinakua is back. Okay. Pukinakua scoring touchdowns. Puka Nkua actually commented in our Instagram to one of his numerous highlights that were posted. And he said, just trying to be good enough to get back on the program, Moose. And we'd like to let you know, Puka, you're welcome anytime. What a perfect superstar for Los Angeles. Puka Nakua is. He's a dog. He's tough, and he's got a quarterback thrown to him that isn't scared to break NFL records. If you look at the wide receivers with the best seasons throughout the history of the NFL, you're going to see the quarterback Matthew Stafford next to the guys that are doing that he's a special talent. He and I were drafted in the same year. He was number one overall. Got like 175 million guaranteed. I was drafted number 222. I got 47,000, which wasn't enough to pay off the Cadillac Escalade. Okay, so it's a little different life. But what he has been able to accomplish, especially with Kershaw, his high school teammate or yeah, battery mate, whatever it is, and the baseball team just wins his last World Series. The fact that Stafford looks the way he looks and is still doing what he's doing, insane. And then Devonte Adams, the amount of touchdowns that he has that are in close distance. So you know the Eagles are doing the tush push whenever they're down there. You know what the Rams do? They do Devonte get open and Matthew Stafforde is just delivering him distance of each touchdown in the last week. 3 yards, 4 yards, 2 yards, 1 yard, 1 yard. Unguardable. Remember, all anybody talks about is his get off. He doesn't even have to use his hands. He's able to shake everybody. They used to do this with Gronk, the Patriots, anytime they were down the red zone. Let's go ahead and get Gronk one on one and then you got a two way go, three way go whatever the hell you want to do. Gronk, we're just going to wait on it. Right now they got Devontae one on one down here and they have to do that because they got puka and other weapons. Devontae always the number one. Normally going to have two people on him, especially in a red zone area. Now with where he is on that roster, devontae's getting one on ones down there and all you got to do is just let Devontae cook basically. And Stafford's just waiting on him. Offensive line has to be able to block for half a second. Not even soon as Devontae's loose. We get it and it's an easy go. Brilliant by Sean McVay. And if you cover him, Devontae, it's all right. We got Puka.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Over here on the other side and we'll see how it all goes. So I mean, the NFC west, only Niners get a huge San Francisco 49ers and Mac Jones. Mac Jones playing really good.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Now their defense obviously very dinged up. We have no idea what the defense is going to be able to be long term and also trade deadline tomorrow. The San Francisco 49ers are always a pretty active squad whenever it comes to making moves to try to better their team. Team. And this Mac Jones, Christian McCaffrey obviously otherworldly. Otherworldly. Okay. I saw Jackson Dart run one in. I saw a couple touchdowns for this Giants team. And obviously his Giants team looks different now than he did just a few weeks ago with the loss of Scaboo. And obviously the Niners look different now than they did a few weeks ago with the loss of Fred Warner and everybody else. But Mac Jones playing quarterback looks more than capable. This San Francisco 49ers team and they get a huge win against the New York Giants. Tone Diggs.
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Tone Diggs
Yeah, Mac has looked incredible stepping in for Brock Purdy. Like to have him as their backup in this situation to get them to six and three. Like, no, like if you would have looked at all their injuries. So like if you put that. Hey, n. Is going to lose all these people Max going to be the quarterback. What's their record? We never would have gave him six.
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Pat McAfee
And three at all. And here's the Giants defense to that point. Last two games we gave verse Aquin, he had 18 touches, 174 yards and two touchdowns. Week nine, Christian McAffrey, 33 touches. He's the guy. 173 yards and two touchdowns. Giants defense need to figure out how the hell they're going to cover their running back. Yeah, we need a linebacker that can run. It sounds like is what we're looking for New York trade deadline day. Maybe some buyers at the. At the trade deadline.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I don't think we're. We're going to be buyers, but it was like we didn't know Chris McCaffrey was on the 49ers. Just a complete embarrassment.
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Pat McAfee
That's the life of a Giants fan living alongside Bruce. And then obviously last night was just a show of the NFC West. The Seahawks team is a problem across the board. Leonard Williams is what, 6 foot 9? You see him running so big. He chased down Jaden Daniels last night and I, I was just like, there's no way that's Leonard. Leonard Williams been around a long.
- [30:38]
Connor Rogers
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And he looks phenomenal. Had no idea he's spear fishing. Okay. They're saying he's going down for five minutes at a time. This guy can hold his breath for five minutes as he's free water fishing out there. Held a tuna the size of him up on the screen this other filling time late. Leonard Williams is a fisherman. A free diving fisherman. I think they said 80ft, five minutes holding his Crazy. I think they said on Leonard pressure. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, I think Collins work said, I scuba dive down there. I never, you know, and he said, even that is obviously a little scary. Couldn't imagine going down there without a tank. But on that note, they got talent everywhere. They got dogs everywhere. Them talking about how Jackson, Smith and Jigba this offseason said, I want to be the best wide receiver in football. And McDonald said, well, you got this is how we work. And then him just buying in and doing it. Sam Darnold, this guy was let out of the building, obviously in Minnesota. I think it's because JJ McCarthy's leadership abilities. I genuinely believe that. I think there's two Alphas in the back building. If J, everybody's like, well, why don't you let JJ kind of watch somebody? I think JJ's pretty big alpha. I, I, I think JJ is a alpha personality at least and leader and kind of everybody gravitates towards him. So I think it would be tough to kind of have a starter in there with him. So Sam Darnold heading to Seattle, what a move for them. And they're special. Always winning on the road, always winning on the road. And I like the cut of their jib out there a lot. And we all know Seattle, especially if their fans are all in, which it feels like they are and should be, is impossible to play at. This Seahawks team is very special.
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Connor Rogers
Well, I'm very cool for Mike McDaniel and the Seahawks to like, be good last year and then make McDonald. Excuse me, be good last year and then make a change like Geno Smith and the Seattle Seahawks with dk. They were good. And then instead of kind of just riding that out, see what happens. They say, hey, hey, look, Sam Darnold's better. Jackson, Smith and Jigba, he needs to get the ball more. I mean, Sam Darnold threw two touchdowns to a guy named Torrey Horton. I get it. I probably should have known who that guy was. I didn't going into the game. Touchdown parlay builder there, not to mention the, the third string tight end, he threw a touchdown to number 82, Wilson. No idea who that is either, because.
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Pat McAfee
They got a touchdown parlay builder.
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Connor Rogers
It would have been, it would have been dynamic. But I mean, Arroyo here, AJ Barner, Jackson Smith and Jigba. Jackson, Smith and Jigba didn't even score and they still put up 38 points. The Seattle Seahawks are awesome to watch.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, the Commanders fans said they're, they're being an elementary team. Yeah, they're, they're being an elementary team. And Here's a guy that Connor was talking White.
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Connor Rogers
Excuse me. Not Wilson.
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Ty Schmidt
I'm sorry.
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Pat McAfee
Mr. White had a W in Wilson.
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Tone Diggs
What? Steelers, actually.
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Connor Rogers
There it is.
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Pat McAfee
What's that?
- [33:14]
Tone Diggs
Steelers actually cut him this year, Mr. White.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Okay, so he looks like he's found a good home out there in Seattle then. Congrats to Seahawks and the NFC West. We'll see you the Cardinals tonight as they take on obviously the Dallas Cowboys. Let's go to the number two headline from the weekend. The Bills beat down the Chiefs. Okay. And everybody's going to say, well, the Bills, they beat the Chiefs again in regular season. You can't beat them in postseason. Well, it's like, what are the Bills supposed to lose in a regular season? It's much better to win than it is to lose in these games. And if you watch the way this game went, boy, that Bills team beat the hell out of Patrick Mahomes. I mean, there was like, there was a string there, three, four straight plays where Patrick was just taking huge shots. Huge shots. Huge shots. It's like this Bills team has a little bit of a different attitude. Maybe they seem to be the ones that want to be the aggressors. They're the ones that want to be tougher. They beat Don, the Kansas City Chiefs. I think that is a little bit alarming if you're a Kansas City Chiefs fan. And also if you're a Buffalo Bills fan, it's like, hey, hold on now. We got a little bit of an edge. Feels like this team has you got Josh Allen obviously on the offensive side. So you're going to be great on the offensive side of the ball. You would assume defense thumping this Kansas City Chiefs team as much as they did and obviously making plays all over the place and getting huge win. Great for the Buffalo Bills.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, great for the Buffalo Bills. But like you're saying, if you're a Chiefs fan, you're just holding your breath every single time you're watching Mahomes play. Now, we've talked about it the last couple weeks about him running the ball and kind of get smacked around more. It's like, you know, obviously this game does. Isn't the end all be all for them? Because there is a good chance they see each other in the playoffs, but boy, they. Patrick Mahomes needs to take care of himself. We can't have that guy getting hurt and missing a good chunk of time over the next couple weeks.
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Pat McAfee
Here's some Hembo stats out of the Bills Chiefs game. Patrick Mahomes vs. Bills Defense 44% completion percentage, which is career low. I think he had to go back to college since he had a completion percentage below 50%. 13.1 Average depth of target is his career high. Nobody was getting open, just kind of throwing. He threw for 444 air yards and 69 yak. Nothing easy underneath, says Hembo. Little anecdote, he says, and they hit him a career high 15. Flawless plan and execution from the Buffalo Bills defense, says Hembo. They literally beat him, Don.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah, and they had at Oliver out, you know, their best defensive lineman, highest paid defensive lineman, wasn't even playing and they had that. All that pressure. Awesome.
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Pat McAfee
Good for the Beals. Maybe this is the year.
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Ty Schmidt
Could be.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, maybe this is the year for the Buffalo Bills. Good to see a bosa cooking out there. And then number one headline from the weekend is turn back the clocks an hour. Yeah, right about 11 years.
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Connor Rogers
Hell yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Look at the AFC leaders. Colts, Patriots, Broncos, Steelers. That's 2025. Let's go back 2014, shall we? Boom. Who's up there?
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Connor Rogers
Damn.
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Pat McAfee
Old school tradition. Eleven years ago now, did I choose to take this angle for the number one headline so that I could show. Go back to 2025, please. Boom. The Colts still number one. Let's make sure we understand that. Okay, let's make sure we understand it. Toffee Austin at Pittsburgh Steelers.
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Ty Schmidt
Great team.
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Pat McAfee
But the Pittsburgh Steelers currently leading the AFC north, which is why they're seeding in fourth. Although others might have a couple more wins than them, including the Buffalo Bills, who are six and two, who have already had their by New England Patriots lead the AFC East. The Denver Broncos lead the AFC West. And now Pittsburgh Steelers in Indianapolis Colts got the north and the south respectively. It's like this is old school football all of a sudden. And this Broncos team, hey, dude, Denver Broncos are a real deal. Going into the season, the Broncos were some super bowl favorites, some super bowl. What's it called whenever you're like, people love you, darling. Super bowl darlings by a lot of fans. And the Denver Broncos get a huge win over the Houston Texans down in Houston with a walk off from Will Lutz. And there was a moment before this kick between Sean Payton, head coach of the Broncos, and William Will Lutz. Hey, right through, man. A little smile. That's awesome. I love everything about it because you have to think to yourself, hey, the head coach has got to really get along with the kicker. If this is what he's saying to him right before a little bit of a violent motion, don't Know exactly what he said. Just say, hey, Will. Hey, look at me. Fucking. Yeah. We need to make this one. Do it. We need to make this one. Will Lutz makes the kick. Will Lutz now under Sean Payton. Cause he was with him at the New Orleans Saints. Sean Payton brings him up to Denver. Sean Payton and will love 14 of 16 in clutch field goals under Sean Payton. It's all the way back to the Saints. Pretty good game, Tiger. Go ahead. Field goals in the final two minutes of regulation, plus ot. Yeah, I think Sean Payton has a lot of faith. And he was just reminding Will, hey, you're going out there to make this thing. Let's remember that smile. Will says, you got it. Broncos back in a position where it's like, wait, is this the Broncos team that we all thought it was going to be? Is this the Broncos team that can go win a Super Bowl? Sean Payton has been able to do it in the past. Can he do it again, rebuilding it in his own image? Crazy.
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Connor Rogers
To think about in the top four is incredible. But if you were to go back to 2014 and look at those top four teams, the Wild card teams are nowhere near how good the wild card teams are now. You know, you're looking at that and you're damn near worried if you're the 2 seed or the 3 seed or the 4 seed just because, hey, Chiefs are there, Bills are there, Chargers are there. Like, there are a lot of really, let alone the Ravens, if they continue to play well, like, the buy this year might be the most important buy the AFC and has had in a long time.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I. And then who's already out of it? You know, who's out of it that we think might be in it? You know, there's some teams that might not be able to catch some of these teams. I'll be fascinated to see how the AFC falls. And also congratulations to the Steelers and the Patriots and the Colts and the Colts. Tough one for me to be able to celebrate the Colts, but still number one, the AFC out here. Don't you worry about it. Joining us now in the best truck down the line. Nothing stops or a RAM truck.
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Ty Schmidt
No, it doesn't.
- [38:50]
Pat McAfee
Hey, ride high, ride comfortable. Ride style. Ride with grit. Ride with Ram.
- [38:55]
Ty Schmidt
Hell, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
That's a tagline. Yeah, it's not bad. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a man who might be able to fill in some gaps that we might have missed, especially on the injury conversation in which there was a lot of superstars injured yesterday. Insider for the NFL at espn. Also a Michigan Man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Shafty. How you doing, brother?
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Adam Schefter
Going on there, Pat, how you doing?
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Pat McAfee
I'm great. Thank you for joining us. Obviously, huge one between the Cardinals and the Cowboys tonight. We'll chitchat about that a little bit later through the first 15. One of our headlines was the injuries. Feels like this was the worst weekend around the NFL and today's a day where we're waiting on scans. Is that kind of how this normally works out?
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Adam Schefter
She There have been some bad weeks in the NFL. This is another one of them. Obviously you have Jaden Daniels last night. That was really troubling to see and watch and see him be escorted off the field with his left arm in a brace. Look, here's the deal. He's having the MRI today. It's dislocated his elbow. I mean, it's not going to be any different in the result there and he's going to be out indefinitely. So Washington would have to keep alive its season and turned it around at 3 and 6 for him to have a chance to come back. And I would think it's safe to assume that Washington is going to be moving forward extraordinarily careful about when it puts back in Jaden Daniels. And so if they're not winning here in the weeks to come, then I think there's a real chance that we've seen the last of Jaden Daniels this season. I think that's in the realm of possibility. He's definitely. It's possible his season is over. The whole thing was troubling. You never want to see a player like that go down. You never want to see a player like that go down. Midway through the fourth quarter, down 31 points. That franchise has been through that before. And it just. It's unfortunate the way the whole thing unfolded.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I agree. And watching a long live at the time because I couldn't fall asleep because I guess I'm just a sicko. And listening to Tirico and Collinsworth try to fill time was certainly something I was enjoying while I was watching it. And then you see that injury happen. It's like, oh, that's nasty. Nasty. And then this morning I saw it. They were blurring it out on SportsCenter. That's how nasty it was. So obviously the future of the franchise they're going to be careful with. We respect that. Let's talk about some of the other injuries that took place. Obviously, Tucker Kraft had a knee. Joe Alt had a knee, an ankle. Travis Hunter had a knee in practice. Do we know anything on or any updates on any of those particular guys?
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Adam Schefter
Tucker Craft, the test came back today. Torn ACL confirmed, out for the season. Just brutal.
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Pat McAfee
Took over the NFL last week, man.
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Adam Schefter
By the way, I, I, I do think this is Tucker Craft's 25th birthday today. So, Jordan, yeah, Jordan Love had an awful 27th birthday yesterday. Yesterday. Tucker Kraft had an awful 25th birthday today. There are a lot of bad birthday celebrations here with the packers. And, and Tucker Kraft had developed into, you could argue, maybe the best tight end in the game right now. Coming off a huge game against the Pittsburgh Steelers have been unbelievable. He's not only is he a great receiver, but he's a great block. Tucker, he's a vital part of that offense. You see the numbers right there. Jordan Love, targeting Tucker Kraft is off the charts. That target is now taken away. So, I mean, it's a tough one. I guess you're gonna have Musgrave try to step up. I, I wouldn't think that they'll try to do anything at the trade deadline, but just a bad, bad injury.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, sucks. Jaden Daniels, all these suck, by the way, because they're all superstars, which is something. Joe Alt Ankle and Travis Hunter would be the two from that particular. Travis Hunter came out of practice, he's on ir. They said his ACL was intact. That means they were scared it was an ACL. It sounds like putting him on IR is just to make sure he's 100% or. What are you hearing out of there, the news that dropped on Friday from Thursday's practice?
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Adam Schefter
Well, first of all, Travis Hunter is somebody that doesn't miss time. So when he goes down and he's out for four weeks minimum, that tells you it's not great. And I think it's going to be, my sense is it's going to be beyond that. It's going to be, as I was told, it's going to be, quote, unquote, a while before Travis Hunter comes back. Yeah. And Jacksonville has been winning, and as long as they stay alive, I think we could see Travis Hunter again later this season. But I put this a little bit in the Jaden Daniels category. You're going to be careful with this guy. And if, I mean, they're in the playoff race right now and they're doing a great job, but if they're not, you're not going to rush this guy back. You're going to be careful. And so I think it will be a little while before we see Travis Hunter again this season. I don't know exactly when, but as I was told over the weekend, it's going to be a while.
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Pat McAfee
Travis Hunter, we will miss you, brother. Especially in this time where, you know, a lot of growth can still happen for Travis Hunter on both sides of the ball. We'll miss him. Joe Alt with an ankle. We know what the Chargers are are with Joe Al. Obviously the stats were a little bit polar whenever it was with Joalt without Joe Walt. What, what should we be thinking here with Joe Walt? As you, you look ahead.
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Adam Schefter
Well, I go back and look, he hurt his ankle in week two, I believe it was. Or when was it against the Giants? When did the Chargers play the Giants? What week was that? Is that week two, three, whatever it was because Neighbors tore his ACL in that game. And before Neighbors went down, Joe Alt basically was carted off in that game with a high ankle sprain to the same ankle. He rested it, rehabbed it and was able to come back weeks later. This time my understanding is he's gonna have to have a surgical procedure done to help stabilize the ankle. So whatever he missed last time, and I'd have to go look it up, I would think he's gonna miss more time now. I'm gonna guess he missed about four or five weeks. So again, probably, hopefully, maybe later this season.
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Dan Orlovsky
Maybe.
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Pat McAfee
Tough game, dude. Tough game. Football's a tough game. It's so hard to win. That's why like the patriots winning for 20 plus years is so crazy to think about because you lose a couple of your pillar guys, which is happening here around the league. We're literally just talking about you lose a couple of these pillar guys, all of a sudden your team looks vastly different. And it's like, are we even built to win without this person? And it's like, no, it changes everything.
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Adam Schefter
Some of these interests, I mean there we got like Mikel Williams for the 49ers, their first round Drift Bosa. They lose Fred Warner to season ending injuries. Now you're counting on your first round pick. He tears his ACL yesterday. Like, I mean it is, it's, you know, where did the Chargers go Get an offensive tackle. Now these guys find them. You can't find them.
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Pat McAfee
Where?
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Adam Schefter
The Niners. I mean the Niners, maybe, maybe they could go trade for some kind of edge. Maybe. But it's brutal. It's so hard to try to replace that.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's impossible. Yeah. The injury thing is just crazy. It is. It's a guarantee that it's going to happen. Who is it is going to decide Whether or not it kind of sends your entire season off course. So we got a couple trade now. Trade deadline tomorrow, 4pm Eastern Time. Con man has a question for you.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah, Chef D, it's interesting too. Three of those players you just named got hurt on MetLife Stadium. Again, that's been a convo going over the last couple years. But looking at Washington, if Jaden Daniels is kind of going to be shut down, do you expect them to move some of the, you know, mercenaries, if you will, that they traded for just for this year? Debo, he's on a one year deal. Laramie Tunsil was acquired for picks. I don't know what his contract situation is, but do you see Washington maybe now becoming sellers then?
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Adam Schefter
It's a great question. It's an interesting point. I would say this. They're probably not there yet. Mentally, I'm not going to tell you that that couldn't happen. It's funny, I had a team say something like that to me this morning, but every team approaches this differently and obviously this is fresh in their building this morning. The loss last night, losing Jaden Daniels, I don't know how they'll react to it yet. You're not the first person to raise that issue today day. But I don't have the answer to it, unfortunately.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, it's pretty quick turnaround for them to have to make an entire franchise determining decision, but they have to because trade deadlines tomorrow. You saw the graphic up there. Any trade is possible, you know, because of things that have happened in the past. Now obviously trade deadline has some massive names like Marshawn lynch ends up with Seattle. Carson Palmer goes out to the Raiders, he gets traded. Minka Fitzpatrick gets traded. Could he get traded again? Maybe. Jalen Ramsey ends up with the Rams during trade deadline. Eric Dickerson, big trade during the deadline. Herschel Walker traded during the deadline. Randy Moss traded Christian McCaffrey, remember from the Panthers to the Niners in the middle of the season. Then they say, yep, you're actually just going to take on the entire workload on the offensive side. I think he ran for a touchdown, threw a touchdown and caught a touchdown like in his first game with the Niners immediately upon arrival. Then we have, we have the possible buyers there. Now obviously any trade is possible with the teams that are potentially on a little bit of a run, which is the possible buyers. This, this is playoff hopes, playoff dreams, playoff aspirations. Are we one piece away, two pieces away. How active do you think everything is before tomorrow at 4 o'? Clock? Shefty?
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Adam Schefter
Well, Pat over the last month leading up to tomorrow we've already had 10 trades.
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Dan Orlovsky
10.
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Adam Schefter
So my guess would be if I had a guess, just random Darth or nobody knows the answer to this. We'll probably get 3, 4, 4 more by the deadline tomorrow. Just a random guess. I. I don't know if you go back to last year right at the end the Commander's trade for Marshawn Lattimore in the middle of the day there was another notable move. And then at the end the Steelers traded for Preston Smith and the jets traded for Mike Williams. And I think what happens at least last, last year right before the deadline you see guys just kind of unload guys for whatever they can get back. Like Dallas has Mozzie Smith, you know, will I be surprised if at 3:35 tomorrow Mozzie Smith is traded some team that is looking for somebody to play?
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Connor Rogers
No.
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Adam Schefter
No. I don't know how many significant trades you're going to get between now and tomorrow. The Eagles trading for Jalen Phillips this morning. That would amount to a significant trade. They gave up a third round draft pick. They reunite Jalen Phillips with Vic Fangio. Jalen Phillips had great success with Vic Fangio until he tore his Achilles in Miami. He's on an expiring contract. The Eagles gave up their own third round draft pick. They still have the jets third round draft pick from the sound Reddick trade. That, that's a notable trade. I don't know that we're going to get much that's any more significant than that move this morning. We might, we might. Seattle is interesting. Seattle is interesting.
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Pat McAfee
Yes, they are. They're a problem chef. They are very good at football.
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Adam Schefter
As my, as my friend Brian Windhorse would say, something is going on in Seattle.
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Connor Rogers
Yep.
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Adam Schefter
Seattle would be a team to watch.
- [50:35]
Connor Rogers
He said a lot.
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Pat McAfee
I think a. I think Seattle would be a fantastic team to get trading now. It's far okay. Certainly it's way over there. So we don't really get a chance to talk about it as much as we should because of how far it is and remove everything. But boy, McDonald's got a team of dogs out there and Sam Darnold has been flawless seemingly in Jackson Smith and Jigba wants to be and is in the conversation of the best wide receiver in the league. Good for Seattle. Their defense. I feel like with McDonald just going to be good like that Shannon to expect going forward and they could have a special season out there out of nowhere nobody else was talking about. Obviously their fans would say we knew this was Coming but out of nowhere for the rest of us. Shafty.
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Adam Schefter
Well, well, let me say a couple things about this that really make it interesting. First of all, they move on from Geno Smith and get a quarterback who winds up being cheaper than Geno Smith, who has been more productive this season in San Darle. And I can just tell you that they have been incredibly impressed with Sam Darnold from the moment he showed up there. Like leadership talent, throws like that. It's. It's been a home run. So they have him. They also have a lot of young talent that they're going to have to pay here in the future years. So they've got Jackson, Smith and Jigba, who they're going to want to pay.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah.
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Adam Schefter
They've got Charles Cross, their left tackle, who they're going to want to pay. They've got Devin Witherspoon, who they're going to want to pay. So you can't pay everybody, which is why we're seeing the names Boy Maffe and Reek Woollen come up at the deadline. My point is, if they do something with those guys, if they do something with those guys, I don't think that they would be isolated movement because they would be getting back compensation. They'd be freeing up capture. I think that would give them more flexibility if, if anything happens. But by the way, nothing may happen. Nothing may happen. They're rolling along. They're the best record in the nfc. They may just decide to stand down and stand pat. But Seattle is interesting.
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Pat McAfee
Yes, Seattle is interesting. And would you want to trade away very good pieces when you're maybe in the middle of a Super bowl run? That's a decision you have to make while you're to trying, trying to build your foundation. All right, couple minutes left here. Let's hit another interesting situation. Go ahead.
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Tone Diggs
AP Tone yeah, very interesting. She obviously the Bengals lose in tremendous fashion yesterday and you see Jamar Chase in the tunnel talking about can we get one stop? Chase Brown at his locker after the game. Can we get one stop? It feels like they're that locker room is in a bad situation. Obviously they have the guys who are requesting trades on the defensive side. Can you give us any insight into the Cincinnati Bengals locker room right now, what may be going on just overall with that team?
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Adam Schefter
Well, the good thing is they're on a bye week this week, so they can't give up 40 points again.
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Tone Diggs
They might.
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Adam Schefter
They've scored in the last two weeks 80 points. 80 points and they're the first team since the 1966 New York Giants to score 80 points or at least 38 in back to back weeks and not win a game. 1966. You know how long ago that was, Pat? That was the year I was born at 39 years.
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Pat McAfee
You said how many? 66. I couldn't hear because the leaf blower in the back, it sounds like we're getting some. Yeah, they're taking care of it.
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Ty Schmidt
Wow, leaves are falling.
- [54:00]
Pat McAfee
We got good people out there, though. Yeah. It's got those orange leaves down there, some of the crinkly, crackly ones. Are you gonna put in a pile and go, maybe do your little run jump thing into them like, you know, we used to do back in the day, Put them in garbage bags, maybe go ahead and hit people with it. What's the plan with the leaves? Do you have any plan post. Do you have any plan going coming out of the. That one or. No?
- [54:21]
Adam Schefter
The fall foliage here in the northeast is wonderful, beautiful. It's not as nice on the ground right now, and it's certainly not as nice when we're trying to go over trade. Interesting. Trade. Possess that.
- [54:37]
Pat McAfee
No, no, honey, you do whatever the hell you want. It's not going to be on us. Okay. Trade. So we'll see how it all goes. Cincinnati, though, fascinating situation. It feels like there's been a of lot of requests. We assume they would be sellers, but it's the Cincinnati Bengals. Quickly, should we assume they'll be moving or no.
- [54:53]
Adam Schefter
Listen, I think there are certain players that would, like Logan Wilson. Why would you not trade them? You're not playing them. He wants out his contracts up. Like, there's no reason not to try to get a draft pick back for somebody that they get a pick for. Like, there's no, by the way, Trey Hendrickson. If they traded him him. If they traded him, and I'm not saying they will, there were teams last week that were told they weren't. And people were wondering, if they lost yesterday, which they did, would they reconsider and be willing to move off Trey Hendrickson? If they trade Trey, they could get back a pick and they could save millions upward over $10 million. Like, why would they not do that?
- [55:32]
Pat McAfee
$10 million. You would think the Bengals would make that move immediately. Come on over to. Indeed, Trey. Okay, last question. You got a minute on this one? Go ahead, Ty.
- [55:40]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Shefty, what's the injury report for tonight? And also we saw that Kyler Murray is not starting tonight, but he may have some sort of role with him not playing. Like, what does this mean for his future in Arizona potentially.
- [55:54]
Adam Schefter
Well, I think it's a question right now because Jacoby Brissette has played well and even Rex Ryan this morning on get up said that he felt like the Cardinals offense operates better. Which Jacoby Brissette is not the first person to say that.
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Pat McAfee
That.
- [56:08]
Adam Schefter
And so that leads you to wonder, okay, if Jacoby Brissette keeps playing well, they're going to keep having him play quarterback or they're going to go back to Kyler. Look, and here's the other point to make here. Their general manager Monty Austin fort their head coach general their head coach Jonathan Neither one of them drafted Kyler Murray. He's got $36.9 million of guaranteed money due next year. And I just think that there's a question where both sides are probably at the time same sit down at the end of the season and figure out what's best in both sides best interest. Like this.
- [56:41]
Dan Orlovsky
This.
- [56:41]
Adam Schefter
This is something that we're just, you know, you're just waiting to see how it comes right. It's all. It's also interesting, but we're not there yet. Right now it's not full blown interesting, but it could be. It could be interesting this offseason.
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Visit att.comguarantee for details. Football is magical. We're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it. Shout out to College ball and NFL football showing up for us this weekend and Week 9 of the NFL season wraps up this evening as the Cardinals travel to Dallas to take on the Cowboys as three and a half or three point underdogs. Jacoby Brett will be starting at quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals, and after a conversation with Schefter just a few moments ago, this offseason is going to be a potentially interesting one with Kyler and the Cardinals. Now as he was talking about that I had a baseball bat in my hands because I remember that Kyler Murray's first athlete maybe ever to be drafted top 10 in both baseball and Indiana NFL. The guy could see the curveball. Guy's got an incredible arm and he's young enough still at this point to potentially catch a baseball career. Now would he have to go down to aaa, prove himself like Tim Tebow had to do for a while? Or would he be able to maybe start around dugout for a little bit, get back into game tape and then go heading out there for the Pittsburgh Pirates and be a starter by Game 30? We have no idea how that would work, but it feels like if you talk to Schefter, he thinks all options are potential potentially on the table with the Cardinals and Kyler as we go forward. And obviously anytime the Cowboys are involved, the Cardinals or the Kyler stuff in the offseason is not going to be the storyline storyline is going to be the Dallas Cowboys hosting Monday Night Football game with a losing record thus far but still everything potentially three, four, one on the season that dash one at the end. The Raiders said we never want to potentially have that they go for two instead of kicking an extra point in overtime. But this Dallas Cowboys team team offensively are special fun to watch in my source have told me that Dallas Cowboys locker room tight locker room down there. So whenever you hear that type of stuff and you think about how talented they are, you say well maybe they'll go on a run and then you automatically have to remind yourself it's the Dallas Cowboys. Who knows what's going to happen with this. They got there and lose by 20 tonight. They could go out and win by 50 tonight.
- [60:29]
Connor Rogers
Yep, they're going to be there.
- [60:30]
Pat McAfee
Well, that's the thing, you know, Stephen A. And first take were down there. Live from Jason Jerry World. Beautiful setup. Looked very cool. I thought that was a genius idea. And normally, whenever Stephen A. Does something like that with the Cowboys, because he has such good relationship with Jerry Jones, Jerry stopped by. But you see, Jerry Jones is actually standing over top of a honey hole right now. He's looking about $100 billion in natural gas. Stephen A. Might have given him a call and said, jerry, how do you do? You know, I was wondering if you stopped by. And Jerry said, Stephen A. You got a shovel? Okay, because you can come join me. I'm trying to get three miles deep. There's $100 billion in natural gas below me. Okay. You think I'm worried about Dallas Cowboys right now? They got to figure it out. Stephen, Jerry Jr. Listen, you guys can't beat the Cardinals. We got more problems than anything. What I'm trying to do is I'm trying to get down to this natural gas. $100 billion worth of that. So if you need me, Stephen A. We can do a remote interview. I'm standing right above this hole until this thing is three miles down. If you get it figured out, the Dallas Cowboys always going to be a show. Dallas Cowboys always. Everything I just said, they're pretty accurate, by the way. People are going to think that I'm maybe a little tiny bit of satire, but certainly all very potentially rude things. Wall Street Journal article last week, Jerry Jones says, I worried about defense. I'm worried about getting three miles down. I need to get three miles down there because there's natural gas just sitting, waiting for old Jerry Jones to fill his bank account with basically what he said. $100 billion in natural gas. Allegedly. Jerry Jones is trying to get this. Go ahead. Toxic tables at Ty schmidt.
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Ty Schmidt
You hear 100 billion. And you're in his line of work, being an oil man, being a gas man, you got. You got to do whatever you get. This is the glory hole. Exactly.
- [62:00]
Pat McAfee
Of all glory. This is. That is his.
- [62:03]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [62:04]
Pat McAfee
Dallas Cowboys fans, like, can we try to win a Super Bowl? He's like, I'm about to. It's a new frontier, too. Everybody thought I was just an old guy. Old guy, old guy, old guy. Natural gas about to give me my biggest hit everywhere. $800,000 he spent on one rig that hit for $100 million in oil. He bought the Dallas Cowboys with that money. He actually congratulated to himself as that rig was coughing out oil like any mammal would. And then once that thing started pouring, he says, congratulations, Jerry Jones, you just bought the Dallas Cowboys. Now he has a chance to do it again. But instead of just Dallas Cowboys $100 billion, he could buy about 10 teams. Yeah, that's what he thinks he's doing. So maybe no Jerry Jones tonight. Unless he's fresh off the field. He's got dirt on his face.
- [62:45]
Ty Schmidt
That'd be awesome.
- [62:46]
Pat McAfee
He's got some shit kickers on shovel in hand saying, listen, I've been digging to the core, boys. I've been trying to find on some natural gas. And that's what this team needs to do tonight against Cardinals.
- [62:55]
Connor Rogers
Well, and he's the owner and it's awesome. But he's also the gm. So is he. You think he's there picking up calls or calling people for this upcoming trade deadline.
- [63:04]
Pat McAfee
So that's what everybody's mad about, I think is the title of general manager that Jerry Jones has upon himself and his place upon himself. I would assume day to day operations. Stephen is acting as general manager. Probably has for a while, but obviously it's a Jerry show. I'm the owner. I'm also general manager. So what about. Why is your kid doing. Of course I told him. You don't think I told him to call it. I'm actually speaking behind him as if he's.
- [63:27]
Tone Diggs
He knows.
- [63:27]
Ty Schmidt
Ventriloquist.
- [63:28]
Pat McAfee
Ventriloquist. Yeah, he's speaking.
- [63:29]
Ty Schmidt
Got my hand up his ass.
- [63:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I'm actually telling. Yeah, tell him we like that. We like that. We like that. We're not paying Michael. We're not paying Michael. We're not doing it. Trade him.
- [63:37]
Connor Rogers
Trade him.
- [63:37]
Pat McAfee
So we know Jerry maybe. But if Jerry's in that suite tonight and we see him know that he's fresh out of a field that he thinks he can get 100 billion out of the bottom of which. Which is a beautiful thing. Let's talk to 1/2 of the Hammer.
- [63:48]
Connor Rogers
Dad.
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Pat McAfee
Cowboys AP Tone spread tonight. Total tonight. Where's the public? What should we be thinking as we maybe look ahead to the final game of the week nine NFL slate.
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Tone Diggs
Yeah. Currently the spread is sitting at three and a half or three. Cowboys are the favorites at home with a total of 54 and a half with which is a big one. Which is pretty standard for the Cowboys teams because we talked about how good their offense is and how bad their defense has been. Right now it's currently sitting 74% of the money is on the Dallas Cowboys. To cover that spread tonight this weekend actually went 5 and 6. Teams went 5 and 6 that were getting 60% or more of the bets. That's back to back weeks that there's been five or six. So it's kind of plateaued this season. After a terrible, terrible start for the public, it's starting to even out a bit. Water is starting to find its level.
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Pat McAfee
What's the percentage on the Cowboys again?
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Tone Diggs
75, 74.
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Pat McAfee
74% on the Dallas Cowboys tonight. You win by three, win by 10. Who, who cares? It's the Arizona Cardinals. They got Jacoby Brissette as a quarterback. That's what everybody's thinking with them. But you listen to Shafter talking list, a lot of people talking like Jacoby Brissette actually runs this offense a lot better than Kyler did. That's an interesting situation over there. Yeah, very, very interesting.
- [64:53]
Connor Rogers
Especially with the game being in Dallas. Like Kyler Murray's record in Jerry world because he's from Texas is absurd.
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Pat McAfee
And the Cardinals posted his record.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [65:01]
Pat McAfee
And everything like that last week. Yeah. Social just.
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Connor Rogers
They yanked it down.
- [65:06]
Pat McAfee
So many different sides. Silos. So many different silos. They yanked it down. But we saw it, you know, we. We saw it out there and everybody else did. Why are you guys sending mixed signals? Well, sounds like the Cardinals football people aren't sending mixed signals anymore. They're saying we are moving on and if he comes in in place, it comes in in place. But Jacoby Brissette is our quarterback now. Hopefully he's. Kyler gets healthy. 100 healthy because there is a lingering injury, they say. But we shall see. World Series baseball was awesome. So yeah, here I sit as a indifferent man. It's November 3rd, 2025. We're on an overreaction Monday after week nine. NFL slate. That was historic.
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Ty Schmidt
Great. Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Nine out of 12 games in the NFL slate. One score games. The NFL has its fastball all the way back. NFL matchups. Good. Tonight's Monday night Football game could be a great game.
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Tone Diggs
Could be.
- [65:56]
Pat McAfee
We're. We're in the dead middle of this NFL season and college football, we're getting towards the point where playoffs are literally right around the corner. And the fact that we're about to do what I'm about to do right now is crazy to me, but it's because I've been so damn captivated by it. You know, maybe it's MLB people being really nice to us and having us come to the All Star game. Even though people at ESPN didn't want us to do it. The MLB said, please, please, you want to host this thing, you want to be starting pitcher for this thing. They were so incredibly kind. I'm like, you know what, I need to start maybe looking into this a little bit more. Maybe the finer details, the little story stories, the folklore of baseball isn't just a tiny little off topic. Maybe that is what baseball is. Then you start looking at the product on the field. It's like, wait, they're superstars are showing up in a massive way. And then this World Series has been must watch. It makes it to game seven. And what a special finale to the MLB season. Ty Schmidt.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, every game is a nail biter or has been a nail biter for the most part. You know, give or take a couple. But then, yeah, for a game seven to do this, this just unbelievable. In the third inning, bottom of the third, Boba Shet hits a three run homer off Shohei Ohtani. And it was absolute pandemonium in Toronto. Everyone in there, I mean, you're already starting to, you're thinking, hey, when's the parade going to be? What, how are we going to do. I cannot believe we're actually going to beat the Dodgers. And I'm sure Dodgers fans were kind of feeling that a little bit as well. Go back to the top of the 8th. You can see Toronto's up 4 2. And it's starting to get scary hours time. But Trey, you savage, gives up a solo homer to Max Muncie to cut the lead to one. And again, that's when it's like, okay, we, we got a little bit of a fight on our hands. I think if you're a Blue Jays fan at this point, you're still feeling like, hey, we got our closer in the pen, Steel. No big deal. We're going to be just fine. Let's go to the top of the ninth. Jeff Hoffman for the Blue Jays. Miguel Rojas, who you know is probably a guy you've never heard of for the Dodgers. He rips one down the line. Solo homer in the top of the ninth inning to tie it up and ensure that at the very least, the Dodgers are, they're going to have a shot here. They're going to have a shot, but still, you know, there's a lot going on. The Blue Jays, they are battle tested. They're ready for these kind of moments. They're going to get guys on base, they're going to do what they have to do to Try to score a run. Let's move to the bottom of the ninth. Base is loaded. Dalton Varsha Joe rips one to Miguel Rojas and boy, bang, bang, play at the plate. Exactly. Force out. A lot of people saying, hey, if he doesn't slide, if he just runs right through the bag there, then you probably win the World Series. Obviously that's, you know, hindsight is 20 20, but man, I mean, you can see baseball is a game of inches and you can see it right there. That's how close the Blue Jays came to winning the World Series in the bottom of the the ninth. But that's okay. That's okay. Hey, we got a force out. We still got another opportunity basis. Still juice base is still juiced. Ernie Clement, who's been a bit of a hero, he rips one to center and oh no, we got a Will they, won't they? Andy Pa has who has not played well for the Dodgers. He was a late replacement in this game for his defense. Miraculous catch there to send the game into extra innings. I mean, look at that Dodgers fan and then look at Ernie Clement. These guys cannot believe it. So here we go, we got extra inning baseball in Game 7 to decide who's going to win the World Series. And let's go to the top of the 11th. Heavenly Hulkster called it. Hey, Will Smith solo home run for the Dodgers. And boy, I mean, it sucked. Every ounce of juice, of energy, momentum. Outside of Rogers center in Toronto, Dodgers fans could start to feel it. You could see there's a full clip of Kershaw in the bullpen. He goes crazy. Can't believe it. He can't believe. Believe it. And then bottom 11 with guys on first and third. The big wobble body, Alejandro Kirk, little nubber, two Mookie bets, he turns to the Dodgers win back to back World Series. Yoshinobu Yamamoto is the MVP after throwing 96 pitches the night before. He comes in and throws 2 1/3 inning innings the day after. Just gutsy, gutsy performance. And yeah, now here we go. Here's all the rhetoric. Hey, this isn't fair. This isn't what baseball should be be. But man, if you like, like you said, if you're not really a fan of baseball and you're kind of just a casual and you got dropped into this recency bias is definitely there. But this was one of the best World Series in maybe the last 25 years.
- [70:14]
Pat McAfee
I enjoyed every moment of it. The stars showed up. Shohei obviously has a couple huge games. And then pitching in game Seven. He obviously gets rocked for that three run, Jack. And everybody's like, oh, no. Shohei's entire offseason is going to be talking about what happened in game seven and what happened in last time he pitched, as opposed to all the special things that he did. But he gets a huge lift from his teammates. Clayton Kershaw, shown there a couple times. He's retiring, so this one's for Clayton. Potential opportunity speeches. He'll be joining us here in a matter of moments, I do believe, before their parade today to celebrate everything that they did. But that Mookie Betts story. He was an outfielder, right? Yeah.
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Connor Rogers
Oh, yeah. For. For the Red Sox. And then the. He. He actually won a world Champion Series with the Red Sox, and then they went to arbitration because of how good he was and then ended up getting. Just getting shipped out of town to the Dodgers.
- [71:01]
Pat McAfee
But he was an outfielder, right? And then this year's first year, he played shortstop. Is that accurate?
- [71:05]
Connor Rogers
I don't know if it was his first.
- [71:06]
Ty Schmidt
So they. They've kind of started the. He was like their everyday shortstop this year, but they kind of started the transition last year, moving him from the outfield into the infield just because he's such a good athlete. And they signed a couple guys in the outfield, so they needed to keep him on the field. But, yeah, he's. It's. He hasn't been playing infield, like, his whole life or anything. It's still very new to him. And he even said, you know, on that double play, he was like, man, I was, like, almost worried, like, hey, I. I need to make sure that I can actually do this. And for a guy like that who has won an mvp, like, he needs to, you know, like, that's very weird that he would have those kind of thoughts, but it paid off. He's a great athlete, and, you know, game on the line, he. He gets the. The double play. And. And. And here you go. You know, the rest is history.
- [71:50]
Pat McAfee
Gets the bat snapped on Naylor there and him just turning double. I guess there's a picture of him as the ball is leaving his hand. He's smiling because he knows what's about to happen. Special moment for those guys. And, you know, there's a lot of slander being tossed at the Dodgers because they spent a bunch of money. They spent a bunch of money. It's like, they're allowed to. So. Yeah, like, if you're allowed to do it. And the Blue Jays spent a bunch of money, too, right?
- [72:14]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, absolutely. Gumpy brought up A good point. Rogers Communication owns the Blue Jays. It's like one, it's like the, one of the, the biggest telecommunications. Yeah. The biggest telecommunication company in Canada. Like they're worth billions and billions and billions of dollars. And all of these owners, all of these guys are billionaires.
- [72:33]
Pat McAfee
Not all of them.
- [72:33]
Ty Schmidt
Well, not all. Sure, sure.
- [72:35]
Pat McAfee
Well, some people need Seven Springs value to be a little bit better.
- [72:39]
Ty Schmidt
That's true.
- [72:40]
Pat McAfee
But that's the entire conversation.
- [72:41]
Ty Schmidt
Right. Exactly.
- [72:41]
Pat McAfee
It's like as a Pittsburgh Pirates fan, I'm being kind of held hostage strictly because I got some. Almost said something terrible here. I'm happy that my lips stopped that. Okay, see this is new to me. You know, old me a little bit different there. I would have let that one fly. I'm not going to call this guy doofus. Okay. Which is what I was about to do. Some doofus dip.
- [73:00]
Ty Schmidt
I think that would be. Okay.
- [73:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But you don't know what he did with Seven Spring.
- [73:04]
Ty Schmidt
I don't, Okay.
- [73:05]
Pat McAfee
I don't, I don't know how long he was in charge of Seven Springs, but I had some great times on that tube. And Hill Tim McAfee, okay. We're all suited and booted. So I at least owe him at least a sense of gratitude for that entire thing. But him being the Pirates owner has been ass. This guy doesn't have the money to compete with these people and he doesn't want to. If he had the money, he wouldn't want to compete with them. That's his entire mindset. So that leads to the entire quagmire that current, currently baseball is sitting in. Right Ty?
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, without a doubt. And it's just, it's, it's one of those things where like could, I mean all of these guys like they you. That you could spend money, you could. Now it also comes into play like there are obviously just like in the NFL, NFL or any other big time sport, like there are certain cities that are free agency destinations. So the la's of the world and the New Yorks like they're always going to have a leg up. But I mean it's, it's kind of like this, this is what the MLB has been for a really long time and like no one bitched about it when the Yankees were doing it in the late 90s and in the 2000s. And I don't know, maybe it's because the Dodgers have come off as like so dominant and every time there is a marquee player who becomes available or you know, whatever the case may be, it Seems like they are always going to the Dodgers. But like you said, you mentioned it at the top of the show, the Mets spent the most money in baseball this year. They didn't make the playoffs. So like there are ways you can get around it. And it's kind of on the owner, whether or not they want to just make the most money or they want their team to win A title.
- [74:31]
Pat McAfee
Game 7 of the Dodgers Blue Jays World Series Sports Business Journal is Reporting peaked at $31.5 million. 31.5 million million people. That's up 10% from 2019's game seven.
- [74:42]
Connor Rogers
That's crazy.
- [74:43]
Pat McAfee
Congratulations. Thanks. Both.
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Tone Diggs
It's a big number.
- [74:45]
Pat McAfee
It's a big number. Especially with how great the game was. It delivered. I mean they had an 18 inning game. Obviously they have 11 inning game in the game seven. It's like stars out everywhere. Clayton Kershaw, we don't know if he's gonna be able to make it. No, we thought we had him. Thought we had. We don't know. They got that parade starting very soon.
- [75:01]
Ty Schmidt
Sure.
- [75:02]
Pat McAfee
So that would have been a Hail Mary attempt. We will be having JET join us here in a matter of moments to hopefully, you know, fill us in on anything that we miss there but baseball being up and to the right. Great. Clayton Kershaw winning on his retirement year suite. Mookie Betts making a play. Shay getting to have an off season. And Yoshi Yamamoto is the best pitcher in baseball. I mean not Baron, Boss, Skin.
- [75:23]
Ty Schmidt
No. I mean I would say no. But like the, the big thing, like Skin has never pitched in the playoffs. Like that's, that's when it matters. Like this guy came in, that's why you pay him all that money. And he was absolutely like, he was unhittable. He was basically, basically the Blue Jays only kryptonite and very fitting. And you know, talk about having big time nuts and guts for them for him to throw as many pitches he did the night before. And then they basically said pre game like hey, every, every pitcher we have is going to be available to go except for Yamamoto. And he basically said like no, like if you need me, I can go. And he ends up closing out the game, throwing the last two and two thirds innings.
- [75:59]
Pat McAfee
I just sent a tweet in that was sent to me by somebody who might have rooting interest and chit chatting about baseball a little bit bit more. The NBA and MLB both had a Game 7 for its championship this year. The average viewership numbers weren't close. The NBA 16.61 which is up. They said, remember, numbers were up for this particular World Series. 25.98 million. And I don't know if that's accounting for Canada, Japan and everything else like that, but it possibly could be. It's like baseball swinging a hot bat.
- [76:30]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, it is.
- [76:31]
Pat McAfee
I'm becoming a fan of baseball. When. So baseball's done now.
- [76:36]
Tone Diggs
Baseball's done.
- [76:36]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Yeah. They report in three months, but this year, in 20. I shouldn't say this year, 2026. Early 2026, we have the World Baseball Classic, which I think. I don't want to say that's when you became a fan of baseball, but we had the Shohei vs Trout matchup, and it was kind of like a. A small picture of like, hey, this is what premier top level baseball could be. And for the first time, in my opinion, for the first time time ever, the US this year, just with like their roster construction thus far, they're basically saying like, hey, let's go win this thing. In the years past, it's kind of just been like all the really elite guys don't want to get hurt. You have the regular season starting soon, so no reason to kind of bump up your entire off season program to get ready for something like this. But we are legitimately trying to win this this year.
- [77:21]
Pat McAfee
This. This is special for baseball. If it's good, I mean, I locked in on it just like four nations lazy. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now is Iman, who is a three time World Series champion, three time Cy Young winner, 11 time All Star, 2014 MVP. He has 3,052 strikeouts, 2.53 career ERA, 223 wins, and I saw him shirtless the other night. He looks like he's enjoying the hell out of his life. Ladies and gentlemen, high school graduate alongside Matthew Stafford, a man who goes out on top of the world. Clayton Kershaw. Yeah.
- [77:59]
Connor Rogers
Clayton.
- [78:02]
Pat McAfee
How are you, dude?
- [78:03]
Dan Orlovsky
Hey, what's up, guys? Thanks for having me.
- [78:05]
Pat McAfee
Are you on a float right now? Thank you for joining us. How are the vibes?
- [78:11]
Dan Orlovsky
Oh, man, couldn't be better. Yeah, we're on our float. We're getting ready to take off from Dodger Stadium. And like you said, man, what a way to go out. It's going to be the best.
- [78:20]
Pat McAfee
This one's for Clayton. You know, there could be a couple of those speeches and we appreciate you taking a couple moments here. We don't want to hold up too much of your time. Obviously, big moment in your life. Can you describe to me the team? I mean, the grittiness of your squad. I. I put a tweet out that said it feels like you guys. Blue Jays. The Blue Jays there. Do you feel that? And what do you describe this team as?
- [78:41]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, man, I think you're talking about the grittiness. Sorry you broke up a little bit, but this team has just been unbelievable.
- [78:48]
Pat McAfee
All the way through.
- [78:49]
Dan Orlovsky
It's just so special to be a part of just the way we won that game. Like, it could have gone either way. The Blue Jays played unbelievable the whole time, and I just. I can't believe we won, man. It's unbelievable.
- [79:00]
Pat McAfee
Well, congratulations. We're obviously losing service. Let's chit chat a little bit about the conversation around the amount of superstars you guys have. Is that tough to deal with, or is the culture strong over there? Culture is the everything, I assume, for you guys. Why are you able to win with this one, like the Mets? Not necessarily necessarily able to. Other places that have superstars?
- [79:22]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, you know, I think it starts with the people, right? Like, yeah, these superstars are, you know, Shohei, Mookie, Freddie, Will Smith. All these guys are unbelievable players, and they're superstars, but they put the team first. And that can look a lot of different ways. You know, from Mookie starting at shortstop or from Will Smith catching or from Freddy playing hurt or sh. Pitching on short rest and Yama pitching on no day's rest.
- [79:43]
Pat McAfee
You know, we just have a lot.
- [79:44]
Dan Orlovsky
Of guys willing to sacrifice for the good of the group, and. And that's why it works, is because you got to have superstar character, and we got those guys, man, and it's just so special.
- [79:55]
Pat McAfee
I love the amount of stars that you have. I like that the stars all show up. You know, stars can obviously get paid and not show up. Your guys seemingly always step up to the plate. Good metaphor there. As a baseball host that I am currently, have you guys thought about maybe taking those floats all the way to Japan with Yamamoto and Shohei? Are you guys going to put those things on boats? Maybe take a trip to Japan and celebrate this as well?
- [80:19]
Dan Orlovsky
Oh, my. Could you imagine going to Japan with those guys? I mean, that would be like traveling with the Beatles or Taylor Swift or something. So I'm all in, though.
- [80:26]
Connor Rogers
I'm all in.
- [80:26]
Dan Orlovsky
Let's get them over there.
- [80:28]
Pat McAfee
Tell me about your. Tell me about your relationship with them, honestly. Tell me about the. The kind of Japanese culture mixing with your guys's locker room. Because I see you all doing this thing. I don't know what it is, but I see a lot of this stuff that seemingly everybody's all in. Can you tell me about mingling with the cultures and. What the hell is this?
- [80:49]
Dan Orlovsky
I wish I could see you, man.
- [80:50]
Pat McAfee
I don't even know what you're doing.
- [80:51]
Dan Orlovsky
Oh, that. Oh, that is. That's like a little hip lock move we do to warm up. And I have no idea why that's our celebration, but that's. That's why we do it. Oh, you guys say hi to Coop.
- [81:03]
Pat McAfee
Have fun.
- [81:04]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, like that. Oh. But, yeah, Shayama roki. The Japanese culture is. They're just so gracious. I mean, I think that's the biggest thing. And they're willing to do anything for us, and they're willing to, you know, take the ball. And Shohei's really taught us a lot, and I don't have enough. I mean, I. It's just unbelievable. I wish I had more things to say other than they're just amazing guys.
- [81:29]
Pat McAfee
Enjoy it all, Clayton. You deserve it, brother. Hell of a way to go out. Thank you for your service to sports and to us as sports fans throughout all the years. You earned it. You deserve it, brother. Enjoy yourself.
- [81:41]
Dan Orlovsky
Hey, thank you very much for having me, guys. Appreciate it.
- [81:43]
Pat McAfee
Hey, spray tan that thing. Ladies and gentlemen, Clayton Kershaw.
- [81:47]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [81:49]
Pat McAfee
What a legend, dude. What a legend. Yeah, that was crazy. One like, hey, can. Can anybody stop by today? You know, we don't want to overstep our boundaries. Well, we got our prayer today. Okay, never mind. No, but we still got the time before, and everybody will be here. We'll send the asking. Kershaw wanting to come on was cool. Yeah, like, that's cool.
- [82:06]
Tone Diggs
He's a legend.
- [82:07]
Ty Schmidt
Best pitcher of his generation.
- [82:08]
Pat McAfee
Okay. How many years? So I saw the amount of strikeouts there. 3,052 strikeouts.
- [82:12]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. So, like, Skins might have a chance to, like, get 3,000 strikeouts. A lot of people say with, like, the way pitchers are now, like, 3,000 strikeouts. Like, no one who currently pitches in the MLB will ever reach that number again.
- [82:25]
Pat McAfee
This is an MLB graphic. Obviously, they have a lot of respect and appreciation for Clayton Kershaw. Seems like all his teammates do, too. I haven't really heard a single negative thing about him. Then he's got Coupe obviously riding shotgun alongside of his entire run. Just kind of like a super superstar, if you will, for the Major League Baseball.
- [82:42]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, without a doubt. And, like, early on in his career, he kind of had, like, the Peyton Manning thing going where, like, he was unbelievable in the regular season. He, you know, winning Cy Youngs, striking out a bunch of guys. But Then the Dodgers could never win the World Series. And that could kind of dominated like the, the rhetoric around his early career. It's like yeah, this guy's nails in the regular season, but he can't win the big one. And then for whatever, you know, something changes. The Dodgers, whether it's ownership or they kind of make more of a commitment to go all in, they end up winning three World Series. By the time he's done like he will be a first ballot hall of Famer. No question. He is the best pitcher of, of like my generation. Without a doubt. He's unbelievable. And all accounts are like yeah, everybody, everyone who has played in the MLB or you know is like it's impossible to hate that guy.
- [83:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I, I appreciate him walking around shirtless too.
- [83:30]
Connor Rogers
Yep.
- [83:31]
Pat McAfee
I'm retired. It's a retired body.
- [83:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [83:33]
Pat McAfee
That was his first moments of being retired. Give me a drink and let's go ahead and celebrate this entire thing. Baseball has been awesome. Culture spectacular.
- [83:41]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, yes.
- [83:41]
Pat McAfee
Gotta hang out with the boys a lot. Yeah, you got, you're with the boys a ton a lot.
- [83:45]
Ty Schmidt
Like you said in like the nf like if, if a baseball team didn't like each other, that team is not winning. Like you just can't. Cuz that that's a long season. That's a lot of time away from your family where it's like if you don't like the guys in your clubhouse, I don't think there is any chance that you win a World Series.
- [84:01]
Pat McAfee
What in difference between an out and a home run is what that?
- [84:04]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
- [84:05]
Pat McAfee
Whenever you're hitting that. So if you have any negative energy or vibes.
- [84:08]
Ty Schmidt
Right.
- [84:08]
Pat McAfee
I mean that is just a game changer. Especially when you're dealing with humans. So shout out to the Dodgers doing again. They pissed a lot of people off. We'll talk to Jet Pass in the next couple days to tell us what that means for the off season. But shout out to baseball. We appreciate you. Can't wait for a World Baseball Classic. Cannot wait. And we need to be winning that too.
- [84:25]
Connor Rogers
We're going to win.
- [84:26]
Ty Schmidt
We, we stacked the lineup this year.
- [84:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but so Japan, right?
- [84:30]
Ty Schmidt
I assume J. Japan's got a couple of like the really good guys but like the last time we played like the, our starting pitchers. Like who. We're like they're guys that are good in the majors but guys that like you would have never heard of. Like Skeens is playing what Aaron Jim Judge is playing Big Dumpers playing Bobby Witt Jr's playing like all of like the biggest superstars.
- [84:49]
Pat McAfee
Where are these games at? Where are these games?
- [84:50]
Ty Schmidt
So it's pool play. So all of our pool play games are in Texas, I want to say, at the Rangers Stadium. There's also games in Miami, there's games in Japan, and then I believe there's some in like Latin America somewhere. So you have pool play there. And then the finals, the championship are in Miami at the Marlins.
- [85:10]
Pat McAfee
Okay, let's go win that. America. Shout out to baseball. We appreciate it. Shout out to football. Obviously having a huge day yesterday. NFL football. And we said nine out of the 12 games were one score games on Sunday Slate Colts game count as that. Okay, that's a seven point ball game against Pittsburgh Steelers. Now Pittsburgh Steelers. I gave credit to Danny Smith, this man who choose a law of bazooka gun. I mean, Danny Smith, the injury legend, been coaching special teams a long time. Me and this guy, I would say great relationship is kind of how we would both describe it. Just strictly because I think he had respect for me because I am from Pittsburgh coming into the league. And then he would come chat with me, I would talk shit back to him, he would talk shit to me. We're Pittsburgh people. That, that is kind of how it went. And this man has been committed to ball for a very, very long time. And he chews an obnoxious amount of gum all the time. I, I mean this is just who he is as a person. And I gave him credit yesterday just because the amount of respect I have for him about basically beating a new kickoff rule. This gum chewing, Yinzer jeans genius just beat the damn rule book, you know, brand new kickoff. Right now we're kicking off from a different spot than everybody's lined up. Then there was a 15 yard penalty. That thing goes to the 50. Chris Boswell just kicks this thing out of bounds inside the 10 yard line. Let me just go ahead and boot this thing out of bounds. Commentators, everybody kind of thinking to themselves, what the hell these guys just do. You try and pin him, what an idiot. And he goes, yep, thank you, that'll do it. And then they show Danny Smith. He celebrated beat the game beat. He's like, everybody know too. He laughed. Yep. But just like we said, we read rulebook, we prepared. This is what we said. This is Ben don't even know. We got to tell them it's on 25. So the rule is, yep, yep, put that on 25. You know, he feels very good about himself. And boss is having to explain to offensive linemen and tight ends and everybody hey, we just, we're putting balls going at 25. We prepare for this day. He goes. That's right, that's right. That's exactly what we're looking for. Ball at the 25 is a great starting position. Now at this stage of what the football is, because 35 yard line is touchback drive start. So the reason why the rules, they got it to 25 is because the rule says 25 yards from the place in which you kicked or 25 from the end zone. So if you're kicking off at the 50, drive starts immediately at the 25. You just kick that thing out of bounds. Genius. I gave him credit. You know where he found it? Where's that? Where Colts did it against the Raiders. I must have been taking a dump. This happened in the loud house earlier this season. Rigoberto Sanchez kicks it out out of bounds. Commentators call him terrible. What a hate this guy. This guy's no control. Why would you do that? Then all of a sudden they place the ball at the 25 yard line after Shane Stein, everybody explains, Hey, 25 yards from the thing. That's where it's supposed to be. So the Colts actually are the super geniuses.
- [87:48]
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
- [87:49]
Pat McAfee
Danny Smith kind of ripped it from him. Now, Danny Smith, though certainly executed perfectly in the time in which they did. But that situation right there was pretty intense. Indicative of what the Pittsburgh Steelers were yesterday. Everything working, seemingly everything.
- [88:03]
Tone Diggs
It was a close game, though.
- [88:04]
Pat McAfee
Weightman, the seven point game, Weightman, the 247 here. Colts have a huge comeback. 24 17. Before you know it, Whiteman, punter for the Steelers. Everybody's talking about Josh Downs not getting hit and everything like that bomb just hits. An absolute bomb there. That gets Downs kind of rolling. Ball hits him. That's one turnover. T.J. watt, strip sack pick by Wilson. It felt like the Pittsburgh Steelers, everything was going their direction. So getting a kickoff that outsmarts the current rule and it exposes a loophole in the current rule that is said is like kind of apropos for what the Pittsburgh Steelers were yesterday.
- [88:40]
Tone Diggs
Yeah, I mean, everything was pretty much perfect. The only thing that wasn't perfect is they did not score after that muff punt. That is not a touchdown. You cannot advance a muff punt. For those who did not know that.
- [88:50]
Pat McAfee
People didn't know ball. There's a lot of. There's a lot of. A lot of people. Pittsburgh people. A lot of Pittsburgh people.
- [88:54]
Connor Rogers
Whoa.
- [88:55]
Pat McAfee
Well, that. Which I was now I know because I'm a punter. Okay, so literally muff. I'M trying to. I'm trying to get all the muffs.
- [89:03]
Ty Schmidt
Sure.
- [89:03]
Pat McAfee
I'm trying to. I'm muff hunting.
- [89:05]
Tone Diggs
Yes, you are.
- [89:05]
Pat McAfee
I'm muff hunting. Okay. If I can hit this thing higher and this guy will muff this thing. Chaos down there. That is what I'm looking for, muffs. Now, everybody that plays in the NFL, though, every special teams coordinator said that's why the guy ran it in. He even knew this is not a touchdown because it's like one of the first thing. But you got to cover the ball. You got to get on top of it. Yeah. We stop on fourth down. I do believe down there, which is massive respect for our defense, getting that stand. But other than that, it's like Steelers dominated Colts yesterday. That is kind of the story. Is there a reason for that muff punt rule that you can't advance it strategically wise? Why is that the rule?
- [89:39]
Connor Rogers
Isn't Vince Papali, didn't he do it for the Eagles? And they're like, all right, we can't be having this happen every single game.
- [89:45]
Pat McAfee
The guy's water back, he's scoring touchdowns. I don't. I don't think, like, that can happen. I think it's because they never possess it, so. They never possess the ball. So it's not a change of possession. So it's just like a live ball is kind of how it's viewed as opposed to an extra down, you know, I think is kind of. Can you go ahead.
- [90:02]
Tone Diggs
Do you know, can you advance? Say you onside kick and it hits off the returning team and then you pick it up. Can you advance that? No.
- [90:09]
Pat McAfee
No.
- [90:09]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I didn't think so.
- [90:10]
Tone Diggs
So, yeah, it's possession.
- [90:11]
Pat McAfee
It's got to be possession. They got to possess it. And. And they can have second, boom, blow up possession. But if it's just a touch, which we're all looking for, I mean, if you see. You see gunners there are trying to get that guy on the ball, and, you know, sometimes there was a little bit of a run of kicking teams doing a little bit too dramatic, trying to push people into the ball. But that is certainly something like, hey, just let them. Let their heel hit it. Just let their heel hit it. Then all of a sudden, we got a live ball out. Action out there. You got to know the rules. Obviously, they did Josh downs. A little bit of a blender there. And also that field, I mean, ball's bouncing crazy right off the ground. Right off. Yeah, right. That thing could have.
- [90:51]
Ty Schmidt
The football's.
- [90:52]
Tone Diggs
The footballs always go the way that they're supposed to. I thought Phil was okay yesterday, was kicking up a bit or whatever, but no.
- [90:58]
Pat McAfee
Well, Jonathan Taylor couldn't run on it, so I'd like to know what the hell you were doing. And I'd like every other stadium not to do it. Jonathan Taylor's huge for the NFL right now. You guys just took him out.
- [91:07]
Tone Diggs
Well, a lot of people are.
- [91:07]
Pat McAfee
Hope you're happy about it.
- [91:08]
Tone Diggs
Does he know how to run on grass? Can the Colts play out?
- [91:11]
Pat McAfee
We got coconut husk.
- [91:12]
Tone Diggs
Do the Colts know how to play outside? A lot of people were asking those questions. I don't know if they've done either this year. I didn't look into it enough, but I saw it on the Internet.
- [91:19]
Pat McAfee
We have outdoor practice fields. That roof has been open.
- [91:24]
Ty Schmidt
That's true.
- [91:24]
Pat McAfee
Same with the window. So we have played outside. I've been at the game. I got sunburn at a game down there, brother. Okay, so the sun is shining in, the wind is affecting our team and we're running on coconut husk.
- [91:36]
Ty Schmidt
I know. No, it's fast.
- [91:38]
Pat McAfee
Guys got a slow ass track over.
- [91:40]
Tone Diggs
You guys did play at the Titans, so there was one outside game on grass.
- [91:44]
Pat McAfee
The Titans team's tough team.
- [91:46]
Tone Diggs
Good team.
- [91:46]
Ty Schmidt
Almost got one. Fought hard yesterday.
- [91:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Chargers are in dogfight there.
- [91:50]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, they were.
- [91:50]
Pat McAfee
I mean, that's a real dog fight there. Okay, so let's talk a little bit about that. Bears, Bengals finish. We need to talk about it.
- [91:59]
Tone Diggs
Yeah.
- [92:00]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [92:01]
Connor Rogers
All time.
- [92:02]
Pat McAfee
All. All timer.
- [92:03]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [92:04]
Pat McAfee
And what could come from this is a massive kaboom.
- [92:09]
Dan Orlovsky
Yes.
- [92:09]
Pat McAfee
A massive Cincinnati kaboom. I mean. I mean, with the. How good the offense is, with how great the offense is, with how much money they've invested in their greatness. That's an insane catch right there. Okay. That is an absolute sky. Two of them. This guy is insane out there. He's considered 1A or whatever because Jamar. Jamar Chase is obviously on that team as well. If T. Higgins would have left the Cincinnati Bengals and got the deal that he got currently with the Bengals at some other team, he'd be top five. They'd say, this guy's top five wide receiver. But it's hard to put the Bengals, two top wide receivers in top five conversations. Ja' Mar Chase on the other side, that guy, actual top 5 conversation all the time. T. Could be in the same exact situation, but this is how they paid him. Chase Brown, running back, he's not happy.
- [92:54]
Connor Rogers
No.
- [92:54]
Pat McAfee
Joey Flack can't really speak on it because he's brand New to the team, but I'm sure he's like you guys. I just had 400 some yards, man. I'm throwing a ball all over the yard. Just let a comeback. With less than 2 minutes in the fourth quarter, we got an onside kick on the team. We go down, we win this game. Improbable happens when Joe Flacco is at quarterback. Onside kick gets recovered. Yeah, right. Never happens nowadays. Hits guy's foot. Cincinnati Bengals. Got it. Joe Flack 143. Let me go score a touchdown. This was supposed to be pivotal, pivotal day. Monumental day for this Bengals team. Even without Joe Burrow, we can go ahead and win. Exhilarating, exciting. The jungle's going crazy. We did it. The ruler of the jungle, whoever it was, says, ah, I beat the Bears. Caleb Williams, usc. Caleb. Oklahoma. Caleb. Scrambling. Dancing. First Don. Chicago Bears. Timeout. Time out. Time out. Time out. 25 seconds left. Did it leave too much time for Caleb Williams? Only need a field goal. As you can recall, no timeouts. You throw over the middle of the field. We're going to have to get down and spike it. Colson Loveland says, don't you worry about spiking it on the field. I'm a spike this in the end zone. Touchdown. Bengals tackle. Nobody. Immediately after the game, everybody on Cincinnati Bengals offensive side said, hey, these guys suck. Talk about the defense. And everybody on defense said, give me out of here. So right now, the Cincinnati Bengals go come from a less than a minute win. Comeback win. Improbable onside kick. And everything could unite the entire fan base and building and locker room, you name it. Exhilarating win. You're talking about climax of all climaxes. Weren't supposed to win that game. Instead, lose. This place sucks. That defense is disgusting.
- [94:40]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [94:40]
Pat McAfee
And on defense we know. Get me out out of here. This could have been a pivotal day in the future of the Cincinnati Bengals. And all they need to do is just tackle Colson Loveland one time.
- [94:50]
Tone Diggs
And I'm glad you said pivotal day, because I. I went back to see it. This. So this was week nine, week eight. Last year was when the Bears were at Washington. They had the incredible comeback. Commanders throw the Hail Mary.
- [95:01]
Ty Schmidt
They.
- [95:01]
Tone Diggs
They go to the playoffs, they do all of the incredible things, and then the Bears lose every single game the rest of the season except for one. So I was thinking, could this be a similar situation this year where this propels the Bears to, you know, a great rest of the season and the Bengals, you know, just go into the tank because it was not just this week. Remember last week? Last week they were up, whatever, 16, 17 on the jets. And the jets came back and did basically the same thing. Like, I couldn't imagine what that locker room is like.
- [95:27]
Pat McAfee
Hey, what happened in college ball this weekend? Anything that we need to hit? Certainly some big outcomes. Utah. Hey. Utah was cold. Utah was awesome. Utah was early. Utah wasn't a lot of sleep for us. The Utah ute student section, the Muss showed up in a big way for game day. We're very appreciative of that great second kick by Jonah. That was a lot of fun. But the Utah Utes get a huge win over Cincinnati. Shout out to Kirk Herbstream, bringing in some blockers. I appreciate old buddy looking out for me through that entire process. Utah gets huge win over Cincinnati. Very late night.
- [96:01]
Connor Rogers
Yep.
- [96:02]
Pat McAfee
Shout to our student section. I think a lot of the boys took the shirts off, too. Took the tarps off late. Shout out to Stanford. Steve trying not to have these guys make the kick. Absolutely love that. He was so sure of it.
- [96:11]
Connor Rogers
He knew.
- [96:12]
Pat McAfee
I don't think so. Are you guys looking at another kick? That had to be another ball. That was not the one I was looking at. Utah gets a huge win. Garrett and Jonah get a win on the kick. Obviously. Second chance. We appreciate that. That's continuing to get pretty expensive, but other things happen around college football world, including on them country road. Rhodes, brother.
- [96:31]
Tone Diggs
Yeah, it was definitely one of those college football weekends that you came in. You're like, what's going to happen? It's not a great slate. It was a weekend for upsets. That tends to happen. We start in Houston. West Virginia up 38, 28 already. They run one in to basically seal this one. Mountaineers get a huge win over Houston. Who was in the running for the Big 12. Not anymore.
- [96:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, not anymore. Houston, obviously. Good luck to them down there. Scotty Fox, that quarterback talking a little bit right there as he was walking out. He is the, I believe the first quarterback that graduates high school early, comes to West Virginia during the spring. I've been told from source says that the boys radiate to Scotty Fox have since the beginning. I don't want to say it's like a sunshine type thing, but kind of like a sunshine type situation in the locker room. Freshman, obviously young at the beginning of the season, trying to figure out the quarterback. We have a couple of injuries, have a couple of terrible games. Scotty Fox kind of gets handed the reins. This dude is electric. Electrifying Mountaineers and Rich Rodriguez on the Road back to hard edge. Get a huge win for the entire program.
- [97:29]
Tone Diggs
Yes, they did. And then you talked about on game day teams that control their own destiny in the acc. One of them was Georgia Tech. A high scoring, insane battle. Haynes King had over 500 total yards in this game, but not enough throws a pick here for NC State. Now Georgia Tech is defeated. Is the ACC a one bid league? It potentially could be. When you go down to smoke smu, who is hosting Miami. Miami's first time out of the state. They go to overtime. Carson Beck throws an interception on the first possession and then SMU gets the ball, they drive it down in overtime. They get the touchdown, they storm the field. ACC is in chaos.
- [98:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they certainly are in chaos. Rhett Lashley just got a new deal down there at smu. SMU was having their homecoming game. There was a lot of things up against it. Kirk Herbstream mentioned it when? While he was talking about this game on game day. He talked to Gumpy beforehand and Gumpy was certainly worried Miami out of it. Now they didn't control of their destiny going into the weekend. They certainly don't anymore. How do you view the season? He was already reminiscing.
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Ty Schmidt
Oh, no.
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Pat McAfee
He was already reminiscing. Soon as the game ended, he goes, we'll always have that Notre Dame win or whatever. You know, he was kind of looking back on it. Gump, what are your thoughts on this year's Miami Hercules Hurricane squad?
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Tone Diggs
Those boys were sleeping coming off the bus. I don't know if you saw the video. It wasn't pretty. That was an early start. First time out of Florida. It was ugly. Carson Beck kind of just makes these mistakes when you can't have them and we're kind of cooked. But I would like to urge everybody, let's slow down on the crystal ball hate, you know, I love crystal ball. He's a great recruiter, great head coach. Maybe think about O.C. a little bit.
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Pat McAfee
All right. Good luck to Miami. They're going to get Gator Bowl.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Maybe Rely Quest Bowl, The Belk bowl perhaps.
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Tone Diggs
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, maybe. Maybe they're gonna win it. No doubt they're gonna win it. Well, it depends on who plays, I guess. But it does feel like some teams kind of work themselves into a shoot the shoot. Being out of the CFP conversation this weekend. Huge losses, a lot of chaos. Big wins as well. Go ahead.
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Tone Diggs
Yeah, there's some big wins. Let's go down to the sec. First off with Texas. Vandy was coming to town. Texas Arch. Tell you what, there Was a lot of talk and a lot of people clowning Arch at the beginning of the season. He is quietly. The last three weeks been really, really good. Coming off of the concussion, had an incredible game against Vandy. Texas gets a big win. They are still in the playoff hunt.
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Pat McAfee
Did you see Arch Manning? Obviously a little bit of a duck there. Who cares? His uncle's through some ducks. As long as they're in a good spot and everybody can catch him, that's great news. Vandy gets a huge loss here. They lose to Alabama and they lose to Texas. That does not mean that Vandy is not a success story in the sec. They certainly should be heralded as such. But if you start looking down the line at the schedule, going home feels like Vandy might not make the College Football Playoff. Whenever you think about Texas, you see Arch Manning, whenever he was coming out of the tunnel, zooming on his face. Jack dumb back at the crib. He actually says. And then they go out after 41 days of not having a home game.
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Ty Schmidt
Crazy.
- [100:25]
Pat McAfee
They go out there and beat Vandy. Huge for them. Vibes for them are high. Same with another school that they obviously have a lot of rivalry with.
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Tone Diggs
Yeah, Oklahoma went into Tennessee and got a just a ginormous win because this is the statement win for Oklahoma this season going on the road. They had the big one against Michigan at home, but they've been a little bit down as of late. Material played incredible. The defense got big stops. Oklahoma gets a huge win on the road to keep their playoff hopes alone.
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Pat McAfee
Congrats, Oklahoma, and let's go down to the sec. Or some fun happening with a guy whose name is all in every conversation.
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Tone Diggs
Yep. Lane kissing Lane Kiffin. Sorry. Ole Miss down at the sip. The vibes are incredible. They got a big win against South Carolina, but a lot of the talk was just laying on the sidelines. Obviously he throws the oop here to Kaiwin Lacy. Just, I mean, incredible running back. And then he's pushing his players into the crowd.
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Pat McAfee
Go celebrate. Don't do the Oxford Leap with the section. That's a 15 yard penalty. Potentially a fine line. Kifford says, who cares? It feels as if Lane Kiffin's vibes are insane at Ole Miss, especially in the middle of all this. He FaceTimed me in the middle of game day. Okay, just FaceTimes me in the middle of we're doing this thing. I see Elaine Kiffin FaceTime. I answer it. He's got win a dad and the boys in the car. Are they driving to the stadium? Together feels like that is what was happening. Just think about how close you got to be for all of this to happen. Right. For all this to happen, how close this team has to be with Lane. So for all the potential distractions and everything like that, I don't think the Ole Miss team sees it at all. And it looks like they enjoy the hell out of themselves.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
What a time to be alive down there. Congrats. Elaine Kiffin and Ole Miss. And they might be on a trajectory.
- [102:02]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, they might be dancing in 12. Down to one. Let's pivot back to the NFL. Joining us now is a man who's down at Jerry World, ladies and gentlemen. He is the face of quarterback conversation on espn. Front of the program, ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky.
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Connor Rogers
What's up?
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Pat McAfee
What's up? You feel so cool right now. This is a pretty cool shot right here, Dan. It is pretty cool shot right here. So you're on the. You're on about the 25 yard line, 30 yard line.
- [102:30]
Dan Orlovsky
I am on the 10 yard line.
- [102:31]
Pat McAfee
Oh, way down there. Okay.
- [102:32]
Dan Orlovsky
I forgot how big that I'm on the 10. Right about there. And then just that gigantic, gigantic screen.
- [102:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's huge. It's beautiful. It changed the way people put LEDs in their stadium. And remember at one point that thing was so low, punters would hit it on everything. Single punt. Now they've lifted it a bit where if you want to hit it, you still can if you're in the NFL, but usually very avoidable. I saw you down there on first take. That looked electrifying. What are you doing in the stadium? Are you working tonight or are you guys doing NFL live from there?
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Dan Orlovsky
We got NFL live from here. Yeah. So first take was like a mile away from the stadium at kind of like a big sports setup area. And then we have NFL live from here, obviously countdown and then the game.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so let's talk about the game of the night. Jacoby Brissette playing quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. There's a chance that Kyle Kyler has a role for their team. What do you think about Arizona? And then on the other side, Dallas Cowboys. They could score 100 or this could be a game that they lose. Like if you ask Dallas Cowboys fans, they will somehow figure out a way to lose this game. Start with the Cardinals and then roll into the Cowboys. Dano.
- [103:35]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I like the Cardinals tonight. One, this team, although two and five and five losses, five losses by 13 total points. So this is a team that is just a better football team. Than their record. Every game is incredibly close. And I would argue you they've played offensively better this year with Jacoby Brissette than they did with Kyler Murray. It seems that he's got just as good of a connection with Trey McBride who's one of the best tight ends in football. Seems like he's got a better connection with Marvin Harrison Jr. Jacoby does than Kyler. And so I think this is a physical offensive line. They're going to play with multiple tight ends. They're going to run the football with success with three tight ends of the field against Dallas. Jacoby's a good player. Okay. This, he's. He's been a good quarterback for years in the NFL. He's not as electric as a Kyler Murray, no question. But he's going to operate this offense and I think time of possession can be huge for Arizona tonight. And then I would say defensively, Dallas's two receivers and tight end we know are fantastic. Defensively, this is a good unit. They don't give up a ton or they don't allow a ton of points a game. It's a huge challenge. But Will Johnson, their corners, cornerbackman's playing good football. I would expect Buddha Baker to get his hand on a ball tonight, if not two. He's outstanding. Max Melton's been playing good. So I just think this is a better football team. I'm not selling everybody that Arizona is going to blow them out, but I think Arizona is more than capable of winning this game on the road.
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Pat McAfee
Jacoby, we talked to Schefter. Jacoby said, our Schefter said that a lot of people are saying this offense better with Jacoby at quarterback. Why is that and what do you think about the handling of the entire situation? Schefter told us that this offseason could be interesting as he did his wind horse impression for Kyler in Arizona. Your thoughts on that particular case?
- [105:12]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, so either last year I thought at times was playing like a top five quarterback. He really had some big time performance performances and this year this necessarily hasn't hit that well. Why is Jacoby playing better? I think Jacoby trusts the system a little bit more. I think Jacoby just gets the play call, wants to operate the play call to the very best of the play call and is willing to allow the defense to tell him where to throw the ball. He's much obviously less reliant on doing some of this stuff like going and being a playmaker. He just wants to be a facilitator where Kyler's such a dynamic athlete that if he doesn't necessarily think the play call gets the line of scrimmage is going to be that ideal call or doesn't necessarily trust some of the past concepts. Fee believes that athletically he can go make a play and he's more often than not accurate, but it's not necessarily the best thing for the the offense. Right. To get everybody involved. And so I just think Jacoby, because he's not a ridiculous athlete, has much more of a facilitator mindset. And this is an offense that talented. I like Mike Wilson. Their second receiver, Marvin Harrison's had a much better performance and I think that Thursday night game he had that. Those big plays late. I think Herbie was on the call if I remember that.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Had a drop earlier. Hit rock bottom then at the end.
- [106:23]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, yeah. He's been much more productive. And so I think as a whole, Jacoby's just. This offense seems to be much more in rhythm this year with him at quarterback.
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Pat McAfee
And McBride's an animal. I should have done. Yeah, he is. He'll be all over the place tonight and his energy is spectacular. He is must watch. Let's go to the Dallas Cowboy side of this entire thing. You were obviously a mile down the road with first take. Cowboys fans feel, however they feel any in the moment. What are their expectations for tonight and how do you think Jerry World looks tonight against the Cardinals?
- [106:56]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I mean this place would be rocking tonight. I think the expectations are almost every game they have to go score 38 to 40 to win. I mean, Arizona is going to control this game from an offensive perspective. And so if you're dak in this offense, the challenge against Arizona's defense, which I think Gannon kind of their head coach and defensive play caller, is like, you often don't necessarily know what you you're going to get. This is one of the defenses in the NFL that has like, you don't necessarily have a consistency from guys. Guys will often be where they're not supposed to be. And you can as a quarterback get to line of scrimmage and be like, I know it's cover three or I know it's cover two. You're kind of looking at it going, I don't know if this is two or three or is it invert or there are they. Is this safety in the middle field or is he on the backside half cash. And so it's a very unorthodox coverage unit. Buddha Baker is a safety that. Yeah, you know, I call them liars. They just do things you're not supposed to do. And so there'll be some good matchups on the perimeter, but I think the middle of the field is going to be a huge storyline tonight. Can Arizona confuse Dallas a little bit with some of their unique coverages?
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so it sounds like you like Arizona. You said that at the beginning. I'll be excited to watch NFL Live when you add in some more film for your argument. Let's Talk about Week 9, NFL slate as a whole. Go ahead, Tone.
- [108:17]
Tone Diggs
Yeah, Dan, I believe it was you who came on last week and we were talking about the Steelers defense and we were talking about how much they've been trying to disguise and putting themselves in bad positions this week. They trade for Kyle Duggar, so he's new at safety. Jaylen Ramsey's got to go back and play safety because of injuries. They simplified everything. They played fast. What did you see from them on the table tape?
- [108:38]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, the two things. Number one, the simplification. Absolutely. They did way less post snap movement and trying to over rotate and stuff. And then the second thing is attached to that the defensive line went at the offense much more than caught people. I, I, I talked about that where defense, when it came to stopping the run, they were just kind of catching guys and catching guys. This time you just saw dudes just firing off the ball. Highsmith firing off the ball. Harmon firing off the ball. Cam firing off the ball. I think the most telling schematic thing is this tone. The number one aggressive offense throwing the football in early downs this year has been the Indianapolis Colts. That they've been by far the team that wanted to throw the ball in early downs and they were really good at it.
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Pat McAfee
Thank you.
- [109:21]
Dan Orlovsky
See, Pittsburgh was very smart in regards to they played some third down coverages on early down. So you saw like first and ten clips where they would run. Hover two man cover two manners are traditionally like third and obvious passing situation. Two safeties deep, man to man underneath. You got to get 12 yards to get a first down. Pittsburgh did that on early downs and so it was the awareness of Indy wants to throw the football. Okay. They want to throw the football in early down. So let's commit to playing coverage on those downs. Pass rush guys on the perimeter, those guys weren't playing a run there. He just not playing the run there on 1st and 10. And so I thought that from Pittsburgh's perspective was very smart. They were going to say, hey, on early downs, we're going to defend the run. We're going to commit to playing with coverage and pass rushers. Go, go get the B pass rushers.
- [110:09]
Pat McAfee
I appreciate what you're saying that they. It was just great strategy and scheme and everything like that. And I don't know if you heard Tone Diggs say it, but he said in the middle of your answer that Dick LeBeau probably went down and put on the headset. Did you see the 20045 team was in the building? And did you immediately, like me, understand that the Pittsburgh Steelers boys who are trying to impress the Pittsburgh Steelers brand new Pittsburgh Steelers probably want to play a little bit more Pittsburgh Steelers football? Because that's what it felt like. As I was watching the game as a Colts fan, thinking to myself, what the hell is this team doing? This is what the Steelers are supposed to look like. This is not what they've been all year. It was a surprise, Dano. For me.
- [110:44]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I agree. From at least the defensive perspective. I didn't know that they were in the building. That's probably pretty sweet. But you know, I think that some research if this is who they could be. Now here's the caveat. Like I want to applaud them. There's no doubt in Tip of the hat played well. But they've got those two wins this year that are really only about the takeaways. And so yes, they're. They're awesome. And if you're going to bank on those, great. But they're still is. You want to see more consistency with playing dominant brand of football, a dominant defensive brand of football. Football, absolutely. Big time performance. Getting the takeaways is huge. I'm not concerned. If I'm a Colts fan, I don't love the way my tackles played. If I'm a Colts fan, I don't love that. But they're elite rushers that you're dealing with. You know, one of the interceptions batted up in the air. I'm not going to kill the quarterback over that. The fumble. There's not a ton that he can do about that. The TJ watch drips out. So I'm not overly concerned. If I'm the Colts. This was a little bit more of an aberration for me than oh my gosh, Daniel Jones reverting back.
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Pat McAfee
Great word out of you. Honestly, that was a phenomenal word out of you right there. Aberration right there. I'll certainly try to use it in a sentence. Tommy Maddox also in the building, left off the list. I mean, Madman Bobby Gun looked good. Yeah, he did look pretty good. I mean all the boys looked good including Jeff Reed. Skipper in there. He's in the middle of all the staff. I like that player. Staff, staff, staff, staff, staff. Jeff Reed. Staff, staff, staff in there. I, I like the way Jeffrey made a lot of huge kicks in a very, very difficult place. A lot of studs on that side. Team back in the building. Okay, question here before the hard out from con man about you know, quarterback play right now.
- [112:19]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, Dano, it feels like last year we had this conversation like hey, this might be the greatest, you know, QB draft class first round that we've ever seen. And now you know, we're 27 games give or take into some of these careers. Some less, some more. Do you think Last year the 2024 class between Caleb, you know, Jaden May, Penck McCarthy and, and Bo will go down as one of the best ever? Because if you're just looking at the. Excuse me, the AFC right now, it is loaded with talent.
- [112:49]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I mean they're obviously going to have to go win championships. It's very similar to the, what is it, the 18 class that has like Josh, Lamar, Baker, Sam, they're all in the same class. Right. So yeah, I mean Caleb was really impressive, impressive yesterday when it may came to making some broken and plays and then obviously the throw to win the game was outstanding. Jaden Daniels, it's, it's terrible what happened to him because absolutely no need for him to be in that game and it's really been a disaster in Washington all off season. Drake was. Drake doesn't blink. Drake May just doesn't flinch. He's. He's unflappable with the way that he plays the game. The same with JJ McCarthy. JJ wasn't perfect yesterday but that dude just don't. Does not blink in moments. Same with Bo Nix. He plays his best football when it's needed the most and so I think the guy that's still a question mark out there is probably Michael Penix. And how good can Pennix get specifically vs man coverage? Can they move him a little bit more? It's too stationary for me but it's, it's a really impressive class so far.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I, I think we all believe Caleb's going to be good, right?
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Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, yeah. He's still crazy talented. I would still go back to yesterday. He made so many plays out of pocket and out of structure. You're encouraged by that. And then was needed. He made a big time, big time throw to win the game.
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Pat McAfee
Colson Loveland too. Can't he's untackleable. Yeah, they threw all Cincinnati at him. Nobody could get him done.
- [114:13]
Dan Orlovsky
Cincinnati hasn't tackled in three years, man.
- [114:17]
Pat McAfee
This show will continue digitally. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. We'll be back tomorrow. Overreacting to everything. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Goodbye. We're still live, Dano. We're still live. Okay, let's last question here. Dano, from Ty Schmidt, Green Bay packers fan, who. Hey, listen, Carolina Panthers, good football team.
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Ty Schmidt
That's a great football team. I see you shaking your head, Dan. You know, that's a great football team. But my, I'm just curious, why is Jordan love the way he is? Because like one week, like last week, Sunday night he has that game against the Steelers and you're thinking, okay, this is a guy that can lead this team to a Super bowl without a doubt. And then, I mean, just not great. Yesterday, obviously. Obviously. I think a lot of people think Matt LaFleur has something to do with that. You know, third and 11, calling bubble screens every single time or throwing it, you know, 85 yards down the field. Doesn't really have a play in between those two, but. And then they lose Tucker Craft for the rest of the year too. Who has been their really only reliable playmaker week in and week out? I guess. How concerned should I be about the packers moving forward?
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Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I'm concerned. Three reasons why. Yes, today is such an immature performance.
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Ty Schmidt
Thank you.
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Dan Orlovsky
Let's just call it what it is. It's immature. Number one, if you guys have the clip, show the very first snap of the game for the packers offense. Okay, Very first snap of the game, he's going to have a tight end. You're calling the play to see if you can get the tight end crossing the field from his left to right. There's a little ball fake. The tight end's wide open. At worst it's going to be a 40 yard gain. Jordan makes a play fake, moves out of the pocket unnecessarily. He's looking completely opposite side of the field. And my note is where are your eyes? And I know I don't know everything that's going on in the room, but I know how that offense is taught. And you're taught, dude, if you get a backside tight end with a little bit of a attention route and you get a crosser and the backside of the defense is a little bit low, peek it just peek to see if they stay low because then you could throw it. So right there I'm like, Jordan, where are your eyes? Okay, that's number one. The inconsistency of his eyes yesterday were concerning the inconsistency of the decision making. He has two balls that he just are. Are effort balls. I'm launching it deep. Why, why, why are we. It's 1st and 10. Look at his mechanics. This is, this is Jordan. He's too good of a player to do this stuff. It's 1st and 10. It's almost like he dro dropped back. They came from the sidelines and he was like, hey, I called this. You throw it. Okay, so that's my concern is like, that's. He's too good of a player to, to do. To play the way he did yesterday. Decision. Decision making wise. I think the second thing is this. I love Matt La Flor. Okay. I feel like we're trending towards a direction where we're too dependent on creativity. Like we will out scheme or out create things for people. Sometimes it is about just going and calling basic plays and out executing people or out physical people. And there's so much of this, like, look how cool this design is. And I love Matt. He's outstanding. He's an unbelievable coach. But sometimes I'm like, we can just line up and run normal plays occasionally instead of. And I, I feel like they're too dependent on that. And then I think the third thing is this, and I've been saying this all year, Ty, this team cannot go to the super bowl with this offensive line play right now. Yes, this. They can't. They're. They're. They are getting physically beat one on one far too often. And I don't know if the quarterback play and decision making is a little bit attached to that because that usually is the case. But this offensive line has been suspect all year and they've skated by with it. They're. Unless it gets. Gets better, they're. They're not going to go be who they should be from a. A team goal perspective, never mind the Super Bowl.
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Ty Schmidt
They might not make the playoffs if they can.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, Ty. It's a reaction Monday.
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Ty Schmidt
No, the problem, like Dan said, La Flor doesn't have these guys ready to play any week ever. They play like in the first half every single week, no matter what. At least the offense does. And then it takes a miraculous, like, look at the Steelers game. They scored three touchdowns in the fourth, fourth quarter. Like they just, it's so lackadaisical. I think they just think, hey, we're so talented. We can out scheme anybody. They're never ready to play ever. It's crazy.
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Pat McAfee
All right, good luck as good football team.
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Ty Schmidt
Carolina is a good football team. Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
All right, last thing before we let you go. It's almost like you're a super genius. It's almost like you're a super genius. Stafford will be in MVP talks by Thanksgiving. Okay. I like that. We like Matthew staff Stafford. We just talked to his high school best friend. Clayton Kershaw just won World series in his retirement year. Matthew Stafford drafted same year as I. He's an old ass man right now doing what he's doing. He's special. The Devonte Adams relationship, crazy. Puka back crazy. Everything.
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Dan Orlovsky
You see the no looker to Devonte yesterday.
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Pat McAfee
Oh yeah. To the right like that. And then social media camera somehow has perfectly in line with where he's throwing it. So you see the perfection of his head looking this way, drawing the linebacker that way. He's special. The guy's insane. But what the the issue with your tweet is he's currently fourth in like current odds. And he was last week too, I think the week before that. So you're like by Thanksgiving it's like, yeah, brother, Thanksgiving's come early. He's fucking in it right now. How crazy is that as you look at this 2025 season that Matthew Stafford is playing the way he is? And what are your thoughts on all of the odds here? Drake May sitting in number two for the MVP odds. Go ahead and take a kind of a gander at the whole thing.
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Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I have no idea about odds. So I had no idea where Matthew ranked. So that's my being completely honest as always.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, hey, hey, hold on, hold on. So shortest odds here. Plus 175 odds on favorite. Whenever people say that. So that's Josh Allen plus 175, that's most likely. So if you were to put 100 bucks on that, you'd only win 170. 75. So it's not a lot of money because they're predicting that this is the most likely outcome. Jared Goff down at the bottom plus 2500. You bet 100 bucks, you win 2500. $2500 there. So they're thinking it's a little longer odds. This is a little bit of a longer take if that makes sense. So plus 175smaller obviously than plus 2500smaller the odds, the more likely the outcome. From the sportsbook size.
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Dan Orlovsky
Yeah. So I think that Drake May I would still have as My number one MVP right now. I to this all. I was getting into this, and I'm not saying this, it comes across disrespectfully. I'm not saying this in this regard, but all weaving this morning, Cowboys fans were yelling at me about it and this and that. I said, name me the starting wideouts for New England. And they were like, oh, good point. And that's. Dude, Steph is playing really good and Booty has been outstanding. Pop Douglas. But if we're just looking at that list that you just had, I mean, Drake May again was absolutely fantastic yesterday outside of that ball. You know, he. He sails that ball to Jesse Bates for the interception. But if we're just looking at quarterback play right now, guys that are playing really good. That's a beautiful throw. That's a beautiful throw.
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Connor Rogers
He did drop a ball.
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Dan Orlovsky
We're looking. Yeah, if we're looking at like quarterback playing the quarterbacks that are playing really good. Right. Like, if you look at Josh Allen, I would not have Josh at 1. Josh was really good yesterday, but I just. That was the best game he's played all season. But like, Matthew's got two outstanding receivers. Baker's got like four outstanding receivers. They're all playing great. But Drake, Drake May is playing as good as he's playing, with a receiving core that's not nearly as talented as a lot of the other quarterbacks playing on eye level. Matthew Stafford, though, what he's doing right now is absolutely fantastic. I remember the offseason, people were saying the Rams should trade him and start a new. What a crazy thing to say. Oh, my gosh, we should be concerned about the back. What a crazy thing to say. I think this is clearly one of the best teams in football. It's one of the best pass games in football. I think the thing that stands out to me, and obviously I have a little bit of a past with him. I have such a great appreciation for Matthew because when I was with Matthew 10, 12 years ago, he was still such a talented thrower of the football, but mechanically a little bit inconsistent. He has worked so hard to become repetitive and repetitive and repetitive and. And so he's merged this, like, really natural talent throwing a football with this maniacal obsession with being mechanically sound. Their pass game is so on rhythm and so on point. The timing of his throws, these balls are out of his hand so quickly and they're to the perfect place placement wise. And so you got those two receivers out there with their tight ends. I think that's one of the reasons why there's such a dangerous play action passing offense Because Matthew is just so consistent with his mechanics nowadays, man.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, BA said that he was the only quarterback that he would go out and watch warm up. He's like, I want to go watch Matthew Stafford warm up. And when he played against the Colts, it's a show in of itself whenever he's throwing the ball because he'll feather one over a guy's hand and this guy will be full jump.
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Dan Orlovsky
This is. No, look.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's fudging gross dude. Fudging gross dude.
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Dan Orlovsky
Fudging dude. That balls is 30 yards downfield over two or three. Look at this guy, look.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, he's damn near 42. And remember the off season he had a back or a super dupe or something. This is the clone of Matthew Stafford. Remember this is a clone of him. Devonte Adams touchdown distances, they're setting him up like Gronk right now basically because devonte is the two, right? Puka's the one. You're able to get single coverage on devonte down in the red zone. So they just have him go and do a two way go. I assume this is just two way go. Whatever you want to do, just be the guy off the line and Stafford's gonna find you.
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Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I mean there's often hand signals or whatnot. You know, we used to do this with Reggie when we were together and you would tell the receiver like, hey, you tell me what you're gonna run. And the receiver would get out there, read leverage. Does he like to corner inside? Does he like him outside? He'd be picking his safety. Does he think he's gonna get help or not? And whatever it is, you know, hey, if, if I put my right hand to adjust my helmet, my left hand adjusts my helmet. What, where do I grab my hamstring? Do I touch, touch my waist? You'd figure it out week by week what the signal was. But often it's the receiver telling the quarterback what he's going to run.
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Pat McAfee
And having devonte, who's one of the best get offs right in, in all the football, having him be that guy is insane. Especially because they got to respect everything else going on the offense. So literally you can get a man coverage out there. Just like they were able to do with Gronk. They were able to do that. And if they take somebody out to go double team them, it's like now you open up everything else. It's.
- [124:40]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, it's a fucking action. Game is so deadly, man. Their play action game. It's. That's the thing that is making this offense and I mean, it starts with Matthew and Sean, no doubt, but their commitment to play under center play action centric. They're committing to protection. They're giving multiple options downfield. The quarterback's got the ability to push the ball downfield in the windows and be crazy accurate and on time. That's. They're creating explosives. No quarterback's got more explosive pass plays in the NFL. NFL than Matthew at 40 years old. And it's because of the scheme that they're deploying. And those two receivers and Devonte and him have really gotten on the same page. They weren't necessarily a couple weeks ago.
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Pat McAfee
They are now fun to watch, as are you. We'll see at NFL Live. Thank you for joining us from Jerry World. Great performance down there in front of the crowd this morning with first take.
- [125:28]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, it was cool, man. Those Cowboys fans are out of their minds in a good way. Irvin. Michael Irvin is absolutely off the charts. I have no idea how he does it, but it was fun. It was cool. Thanks. Thankful to be a part.
- [125:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was a cool show. We enjoyed watching it. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlowski.
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Ty Schmidt
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Pat McAfee
It's a part of confidence. It's a part of looking good. It's a part of being on TV.
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Ty Schmidt
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Pat McAfee
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Ty Schmidt
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Pat McAfee
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Ty Schmidt
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- [127:09]
Pat McAfee
Football is awesome. We're incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about every single day. I'll tell you what, AJ's in New Jersey right now. We send our positive vibes and love to everybody. Darius Butler, obviously nine year NFL vet and host of everything. Db Good D, bad D. He's at a high school state golf tournament right now because there are some Butlers representing and his daughter is dominating. So he's being great dad. And also we're losing just guys left and right. It seems like the talks table at Boston Conner and empty chair. Ladies and gentlemen, hailing from Iowa, standing at five foot ten and a half inches, a former Big Ten angler, Ty Schmidt. Baby, that baby Ty. I'll tell you what, that was not planned. I guess Ty had quite a break there with a toilet. Sounds like you went really round for round. That was a good 8, 9, 10 minutes in there. Weren't able to make it back. Did not know when you were gonna get back so we decided to start the show. What a picture. Perfect timing of the end of the dump there. We appreciate you making it back. How was it in there? 15 round fight in there.
- [128:18]
Ty Schmidt
It was pretty. That was a fast, just fast, explosive, kind of like a first round knockout. But it, it took all three minutes. So if you know the thing that you know you were kind of dealing with. I don't know if you have any remedies left, but I might be coming to you post show to see.
- [128:32]
Pat McAfee
Oh no, that is not a fun time.
- [128:34]
Ty Schmidt
No, it's not. And it's. I'm burning right now.
- [128:37]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah.
- [128:38]
Pat McAfee
And getting to that point is not fun, so.
- [128:40]
Ty Schmidt
Right.
- [128:40]
Pat McAfee
The process of getting there is not good. Being there is not good. And then coming out the other side of it is pretty relieving. But it's very scary as well. Everything that's kind of taking place. So we wish you luck in there, sir.
- [128:49]
Ty Schmidt
I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you.
- [128:52]
Pat McAfee
Good time to take a break. I guess after that second hour there. It sound like that was maybe a code red as we were getting up.
- [128:58]
Dan Orlovsky
You know, I thought I was going to be okay.
- [129:00]
Ty Schmidt
And then Dano just kept gushing about Matt Stafford and it kind of hit me and I said, oh boy, I don't know how long he's going to go here. He's got of a lot, lot of good things to say about him. I need to just.
- [129:09]
Pat McAfee
Well, he even said it goes back for Matthew. Obviously we have history.
- [129:13]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [129:13]
Pat McAfee
You thought he was maybe.
- [129:14]
Ty Schmidt
I thought maybe he's gonna go year one, year Two year, three, year four. So I, I had no idea. But luckily, you know, luckily I, I was, I was able to make it just in the nick of time.
- [129:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I'm happy he didn't go for you. For the sake of everything you got going on the khaki colored pants.
- [129:28]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
- [129:29]
Pat McAfee
Good. Good seats. I think we're happy with the seats. Right. Those would have been ruined.
- [129:32]
Ty Schmidt
Would have to change that certainly.
- [129:34]
Pat McAfee
If anything, he kind of sneaks onto the floor. That's a whole process.
- [129:37]
Ty Schmidt
Shoes. Into the shoes. Socks.
- [129:39]
Pat McAfee
Because there is a lot to say about Stafford. He's fourth in odds to win the mvp. Let's go to one half of the hammer.
- [129:45]
Dan Orlovsky
Don.
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Pat McAfee
Cowboys AP Tone. Where are we at for the betting numbers for tonight? Right before I make my pick, I want to at least text AJ get what his pick is. I wonder if he's near his phone right now. But as I do that, can we get some numbers here for me to think about? As you know, I try to extend my lead over aj. Holy hell, this is good. Neither of us great. Me a little bit better. Love it. So it doesn't matter what he picks. We would. We would end up with me getting a win over him. But not a win over the book. What are the numbers saying about tonight's game?
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Tone Diggs
So tonight, three and a half. The Cowboys are favorites at home. There's still one three out there. So if you are interested in taking the Dallas Cowboys, there is is still a three out there. But they are disappearing. Those threes are disappearing and going up to three and a half because 75% of the public is on the Dallas Cowboys. They like the Dallas Cowboys tonight. They know that they could play at home. They know the offense. You look at the Cardinals record, what it is, and they just see a shitty team when really they've lost every single game by one score or less. But that's where the numbers are at tonight.
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Pat McAfee
And what is the record right now for public money?
- [130:50]
Tone Diggs
So for this week it was 5 and 6 for.
- [130:53]
Pat McAfee
So still not win. Wow.
- [130:55]
Connor Rogers
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
Not losing as bad.
- [130:57]
Tone Diggs
Correct. I don't think there's been a winning week yet, if I remember correctly. I think 5 and 6 this week. 5 and 6 last week for teams that are getting 60% or more of the bets. So it's, it's getting better. But we're not there yet.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. They always win.
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Ty Schmidt
They do.
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Tone Diggs
They always win, don't they?
- [131:15]
Pat McAfee
A little bit too much. I say. People are starting to look into that.
- [131:20]
Ty Schmidt
They are.
- [131:21]
Pat McAfee
Because every time I make a pick, I Think it's right? Something has to go wrong. Yeah, of course it does. What if they're working against you this whole time? 75%'s a lot of people.
- [131:30]
Connor Rogers
A lot of people, Ton.
- [131:31]
Tone Diggs
Especially Cowboys fans.
- [131:32]
Pat McAfee
I'm going for the Cardinals.
- [131:34]
Connor Rogers
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
Plus three and a half.
- [131:36]
Tone Diggs
They're a good football team.
- [131:37]
Pat McAfee
I saw them real life. Very tough football team, too. There's a lot of injuries. They had a lot of injuries whenever they played us. And they continue to fight.
- [131:44]
Tone Diggs
They're good at losing in the end.
- [131:45]
Connor Rogers
And maybe an Aubrey season 70 yarder, you know, reset the record to win by one.
- [131:49]
Pat McAfee
Oh, that'd be awesome. Sick if we get a new record here. Just one day later, Cam Little out of Arkansas for the Jacksonville Jaguars in Las Vegas. Some would say perfect place to hit it because of the altitude and the air and everything. All Cam Little says is, who cares? How much time's left? One second. Let me go ahead and bomb one from the other side of the field real quick. Hey, which operator you kicking at? That one? No, that one. The one that's further away. NFL record for Cam Little, who hit a 70 yarder. Obviously, this preseason and the game has changed with these dudes. These dudes bomb balls. Cam Little, okay, obviously, last name being Little, but I don't think he's, like, necessarily biggest or tallest kicker that's out there either. I am very fascinated by how strong this guy's leg is. His leg speed has to be so insane that he's able to make up for the pure force of the bigger lot. You know, you think about designated hitters or any good hitters that's like, kind of generated stuff, usually. Bigger bodies, stronger bodies. Think about golf. Who's driving the out of the ball, you know, a little bit bigger bodies. Bryson DeChambeau was eating eight protein shakes a day so he could get bigger and stronger so that he could hit the ball further. Like everything that's explosive normally with a lot of mass and explosion. Cam Little, not like a massive dude, bombs the ball. And the fact that he can bring in his own game ball from practice, that's beat up a little bit. Special talent. And I'm so pumped for Liam Cohen. Liam Cohen said it was like we won a Super bowl in that moment. Like, everybody was very happy. Everybody knew what was at stake. Everybody knew what happened. And then, oh, yeah, they'd also go on to win this game in overtime because the Raiders would say, you know what? For the good of football, we won't kick the extra point and tie this with 18 seconds in overtime. So it was a spectacular game. Cam Little's kick was awesome. And yeah, maybe Aubrey answers tonight with a 69 yard and he's got to start crawling up the board.
- [133:39]
Tone Diggs
He's listed at 611 72. So he's a wiry fella.
- [133:42]
Pat McAfee
Very. Just like Harrison Buck. We will be chit chatting with Cam Little tomorrow morning.
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Tone Diggs
Okay.
- [133:49]
Pat McAfee
We will air tomorrow on the show. Obviously, that man is very good at his job. So was Boss.
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Tone Diggs
Oh, right down the middle every time.
- [133:59]
Pat McAfee
He's so good.
- [133:59]
Tone Diggs
Beast, set your watch to it.
- [134:02]
Pat McAfee
He wanted an extra 25,000 bucks before the season. He said, nope, can't chance.
- [134:07]
Tone Diggs
That's. That's not true.
- [134:09]
Pat McAfee
I mean, the notion is you're right.
- [134:13]
Ty Schmidt
I did.
- [134:13]
Tone Diggs
I believe he did. Was looking for a bit of a bump, but he'll get it.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. You guys say you're gonna have to go prove it. And Boss say, you all I do is make kicks. And he literally. That's all he does.
- [134:22]
Tone Diggs
The only one he's missed is year.
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Connor Rogers
Sorry.
- [134:24]
Tone Diggs
He's missed two. One was blocked and then the second one, his. His foot went to the center of the earth.
- [134:28]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Accurate.
- [134:29]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Which once again, I don't love. You guys did that to Jonathan Taylor. People paying good money to watch him play football.
- [134:35]
Tone Diggs
That's home field advantage.
- [134:37]
Pat McAfee
And boy, were the ends out.
- [134:38]
Tone Diggs
They were excited.
- [134:39]
Pat McAfee
Got a lot of messages. A lot of messages.
- [134:42]
Tone Diggs
I saw one of those.
- [134:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Somebody sent me a video. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. Yesterday. Anytime, you know, you play against Pittsburgh or the University of Pittsburgh, there's going to be a lot of chatter from a lot. Pittsburgh is a chatter town, okay. A lot of chatter town. I do respect and appreciate the McAfee jerseys that were roaming around Pittsburgh because I would like to think that at this stage, people who are Steelers fans will also say, okay, might actually be a conversation starter back in Pittsburgh, which is a hell of an honor as a kid who's very proud to be a yinzer still to this day. On that note, need the Colts to win one of these fucking games. Get stuck. Yeah, okay. I'm gonna need it. I'm gonna need it personally for my life on a day to day basis because when I'm playing in that game, not good. Okay? We lose by a lot. I have one of the biggest games of my life. Completion. Go ahead and do a little this. Do my big dick dance. Keep it moving. We lose by 20. Can't even. Can't even really celebrate it. And that's when I knew I just had the best game I've ever had and we lost by a bunch. Maybe I have no control over anything that's kind of happening out here. This is not fun standing on the sidelines doing it. But the Pittsburgh Steelers need to lose to the Colts at some point for the good of my life. And I have not given up hope on this Indianapolis Colts team. I was even watching that game saying to myself, tomorrow, I'm not going to be ridiculous. I'm not going to be dramatic. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to give up hope completely. That would be stupid. They're 7 and 2 right now. 7 and 2. They lead the fucking AFC. Still, this team has chance to be great, but boy, what the happened against that Steelers defense? Then you automatically go to the conversation with the Steelers, like, very, very good. Because if you lose to a good team, I think it's much easier pill to swallow. You lose to a bad team, which a lot of people think the Panthers are a bad team, which is why packers are doing that. But we must remind people.
- [136:28]
Ty Schmidt
Losses, the packers, you know, the packers have lost to the Panthers and the Browns and then they tied the Cowboys.
- [136:34]
Pat McAfee
Good football teams. Good football teams. They can get you. You know, those are some good football teams. Ster. Are really great football team is my takeaway from yesterday. And if they continue to play that way, AFC north is theirs. Okay, let's go to some overreactions, shall we? It is, it is a great honor to be able to read these each week. You know, kind of giving a voice to the words that are thought in the minds of NFL fans on around the league. I sent out a bird call. I say, hey, listen, go ahead and let me hear it. You know, how you guys feeling about the state of your team? Is everything going great? Is everything going ass. Everything in between? I can't wait to hear it. Just so we can go boots on the ground in these fan bases a little bit and you will not be judged for it. No, no, you'll actually be celebrating the best posts on X. It became a number one trend in the United States. We appreciate everybody participating. The best ones in Tyson Schmidt's eyes will make the show. All you have to put in the post is I don't want to overreact, but let's get to it. This one is from an AP Tone digs hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the 2005 Steelers will now be responsible for two Super Bowls 2005 and boom, 2025. They came in and reminded the boys what it means to wear a black and gold. Everything has changed. Couldn't be more. More back, obviously. On the hunt for seven. And you love the Pittsburgh Steelers, and seven does the hand gesture of love. Yeah. Whenever he got clapped and I like that he had to give way to bus. Okay.
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Ty Schmidt
He did.
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Pat McAfee
Bus was the final. Because on that particular team, that team was on a run for Jerome Bettis. What would happen after that particular run is Ben Roseberger would go on to be the longest tenured Pittsburgh Steeler of all time. So anytime there's an introduction type thing, Ben should be the last. This guy is the longest tenured and is one and still lives there. So, you know, so him having to give way to Jerome Bettis I thought was very cool. I thought that was a very cool thing just because of the respect that everybody had for him. But you're right, that 2005 team, I think potentially sparked a little bit more interest in performing well from people on the current Pittsburgh Steeler team.
- [138:45]
Tone Diggs
Yeah, I think it did, too. And Joey Porter Jr. Talked about it after the game how his dad was saying, like, hey, all my boys are going to be here this weekend. You better not embarrass me. You better make a play. And he did to. To end it. And I like you, I decided that moving forward, I'm not going to live and die with every single week. Okay. Teams are good, teams are bad. Sometimes they win, sometimes they lose. This team is going to be a good team. They're going to be in there, there in the end, and that's how I'm going to be the rest of the season. Okay. I'm not going to overreact. Well, we're winning the Super Bowl.
- [139:13]
Pat McAfee
Okay. All right. Okay. I didn't know. I didn't know where you're headed there at the end. I didn't know if you're thinking, that's one good week, I need to see it again, or if you're going a complete opposite direction, which is we're going to win the Super Bowl. I love that that was the way you chose. That's what Mondays are supposed to be like after a win.
- [139:29]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
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Tone Diggs
Especially because the last two weeks have been so miserable. And you try to come in, you try to put on a smile, and you don't let people know that it's eating you inside. But now you don't have to do that this week. It's so nice.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. But now we know in future weeks.
- [139:42]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [139:42]
Connor Rogers
Oh, man.
- [139:43]
Ty Schmidt
This Guy's going through it.
- [139:47]
Pat McAfee
All right, let's go to the next one, shall we? Congrats to you guys. Here's from Boston, Connor. Hashtag. I don't want overreacts, but this guy is the difference. Can't believe he is the Patriots head coach slash supreme leader. Shout out to the crafts for cutting bait with Mayo after one year because Variable was available. They're 7 and 2. Con man Vrabel. Culture shift. Completely felt. Do you feel like not only with the Patriots, but the entire region maybe?
- [140:11]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, without a doubt. And it's just like, like his attitude on the sideline, which is so great because it is still a young team. So a lot of times mistakes will happen throughout the game and, you know, they'll come over and Vrabel's basically saying, like, hey, come on, lighten up a little. And it's as small as, you know, the Patriots not finishing in the red zone and just kicking a field goal instead of scoring a touchdown. And Vrabel still hyping the boys up. Him celebrating. That photo was from him celebrating with. With Stefon Diggs after his second touchdown. But, yeah, the guy that they. That Drake Majors threw it to punch Pop Douglas, his, you know, his uncle passes away on Saturday night. He goes out there, still plays his ass off on Sunday. I believe there's a similar situation with the Chargers player as well. And it feels like those type. Types of places, players wanting to be there and perform, whether, you know, without. No matter what's going on around them. I feel like that's a good reflection of, you know, the leaders inside those organizations and, you know, Vrabel and Harbaugh in those two examples. But just having one of those for New England has been the biggest difference. And you know that. Here's Pop Boom Truck. That guy. I mean, Pop Douglas played his ass off. It's someone new every single week, too. And everyone on the team has confidence. This juke move was ridiculous as well. Cardi B. Was in the building getting crazy with Bob Kraft up there.
- [141:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I saw that and I saw some videos from previous super bowl parties with Cardi B. And Kraft in the past, I guess they've been. They've been friends long time, crafting Cardi B. Obviously friends for a long time. Her getting up, hyping up the crowd. Stefan Diggs is a New England Patriot, and nobody really even talks about it. Just kind of like, hey, he goes about his work, he does his thing. He's been great for that team. I assume Vrabel is very happy that he is there. And I saw Cardi B. And Stefan Diggs do an interview at Cardi B. Did interview. Stefan Diggs was there. Hey, they are big time. It really does. Like, you know, everybody talks about these celebrities, celebrity relationships. It's like everybody judges it. They look incredibly happy.
- [142:04]
Tone Diggs
They love love.
- [142:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we love love around here. They look incredibly happy. Not easy for humans at certain levels of life, especially with everything they've been through, to find people that they can kind of trust or relate and everything like that. Which is why we're so happily happy for Travis and Taylor. Like, so happy for them. Like, hey, that's not easy to find anybody that you can kind of jive with and get along with and understand and speak the same, you know, language and everything, especially with life experiences that have taken place. So good for them. Nobody really talks about it. No, nobody talks about it. Nobody talks about him being up in New England, even though he's a superstar and will probably make a massive play at some point. When a game has to happen, Stefan Diggs will do something crazy. Remember, he is responsible for the Minneapolis miracle at the end. That's shut down the entire Internet as soon as it happens. It feels like everything kind of under the radar up there in New England. And. And whenever these primetime games at the end of the season start happening, which I assume will take place, everybody's going to be like, wow.
- [142:56]
Tone Diggs
Wow.
- [142:57]
Pat McAfee
I didn't. It's like, yes, this team has been like this, and you kind of expected it. As soon as Vrabel was the projected.
- [143:02]
Connor Rogers
Head coach, it definitely wasn't even to this level. Like, I was trying to kind of talk myself into nine wins. I might have said multiple times they're going to win 12 games. Did I mean that? No, I would not say that. But now it's hard not to argue that. But Cardi B2, I think that was the first game she's been at. She is about to give birth to Stefon Diggs and hers baby. So I assume she's there for that in the coming weeks. And then, yeah, with. With Rabel, I mean, it's. It kind of goes back to everything that Bob Kraft and the Kraft family have done after Belichick. Now they are kind of. They aren't, but they could kind of take a victory lap. But I'm glad they're not, and I'm glad we're just focused on Vrabel and the team.
- [143:41]
Pat McAfee
Well, they bring Kenny Chesney in.
- [143:43]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [143:43]
Connor Rogers
Come on.
- [143:44]
Pat McAfee
That's not a bad idea.
- [143:45]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [143:45]
Connor Rogers
Uhhuh.
- [143:46]
Pat McAfee
That's not a bad idea.
- [143:47]
Connor Rogers
But they had a hell of a night Saturday.
- [143:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Can't we all get along? Got a long, long way to go Scared, scared We ain't perfect but we try Always give another boat Drink a beer sing a song can't we all get along? We nailed it. Yeah. We got there. We landed the plane.
- [144:22]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [144:23]
Pat McAfee
And it was in a. It was one of those water boats because we're laying in. Yeah, that's what we did right there, man. We shut off the engine. We're kind of cruising.
- [144:32]
Tone Diggs
Here we are.
- [144:32]
Pat McAfee
And now we're about to take back off. Next overreaction, shall we? This one comes from Tom's Petty. Okay. This guy's a Petty fella. I respect that. At Tommy Hornbuckle. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact. The Buffalo Bills are back. Patriots better win every game in total rematch because we are on your ass. We're not going to run the table. We're going to light it on fire and elbow drop that motherfucker. You know, and that is the thing that they do up there, they do elbow drop tables on a regular basis. They've already had their buy. They're sitting at 6 and 2. New England Patriots are at 7 and 2. New England Patriots because they have one more win than. The Buffalo Bills are obviously the top of the AFC East. It's great to. To be back in that position. If you asked the New England Patriots fan that didn't expect this, but if you're the Buffalo Bills fans, you should be feeling this way. This team is remarkable, and they did something that I don't think we've seen them do in a long time. They beat up the other team. That isn't really what you think. Whenever you think of the Buffalo Bills, automatically. And I think they're trying to change that.
- [145:26]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, everyone talks about, like, oh, you know, hey, here we go, you know, the regular season champs once again. But it's like, this is a massive win for the Bills moving forward. The Chiefs every, you know, you look at power rankings and like, that stuff doesn't really mean shit. But a lot of people are saying, like, okay, the Chiefs are back. This is the best team in the NFL again. They're hitting their stride. And then like you said, for Buffalo to do it the way they did, where they just accosted Mahomes all day, hit the shit out of him. If you're a Bills fan, you got to be very excited because you know what you have with Josh Allen and the whole point, you know, the whole, the early part of the season here, you're kind of just hoping like, hey, the defense just needs to, you know, keep coming along bit by bit, a little bit. And for them to do, you know, that to the Chiefs and them to win that game, that's massive. You know, as we get into November and the. The most important football now.
- [146:13]
Pat McAfee
I believe Jordan Poyer will be joining us tomorrow. Safety, obviously, he's part of that defense that just did what they did to the Kansas City Chiefs. Can't wait to catch up with him. Let's go to the next overreaction. This one's from the NFC North. Oh, from Nathan Tonks. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but JJ McCarthy is going to run the north for the next 20 years. Koc got his guy and now it's over for everyone. All JJ has ever done is win games. And with his Vikings team getting healthy, there isn't a thing anyone can do to stop it. See you in February. Bad boys for life. JJ and koc. Ty, you picked this one Tone. Do you think this is an accurate prediction about JJ and koc's run together make maybe not this season, but the next 10 years? J.J. mcCarthy, Koc. What have we said about Koc? He can drop an offense for anybody. J.J. mcCarthy's got this oozing of machismo at all moments and a leadership ability and a work ethic that I think will make him the best possible version of himself. We've seen him make some incredible throws. We've seen him miss a little bit. JJ and Koc for the next 10 years is fine, fun to think about.
- [147:20]
Tone Diggs
I'm glad you asked me about, you know, not just this year and beyond because he was 14 of 25 for 143 yards, two touchdowns and an interception. His numbers were the exact same, I believe, in that comeback win earlier this season as well. So the numbers have not been great. It hasn't always looked pretty. So if I was someone else in the AFC north right now, would I be super nervous? No, but like you said, they can't get better in the future. But as of right now, like, I don't even know. I don't understand looking at those numbers and looking at the numbers from the whole game, how they scored 27 points.
- [147:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, 27 points is certainly fascinating. And block kick, I do believe with a scoop, a long run, a turnover, I believe there was one. Monty fumbled, I think. And then they were able to get good field position and so you didn't have to gain that many yards, you know, because you start looking around, there isn't a lot of numbers. And for that entire. Aaron Jones played pretty well. They were running the ball.
- [148:10]
Tone Diggs
I don't know if you saw. You see, he was back. Oh, ass and chew cheeks.
- [148:14]
Pat McAfee
Easy. Okay, hold on.
- [148:17]
Tone Diggs
I'll tell you.
- [148:17]
Ty Schmidt
I'll tell you.
- [148:18]
Tone Diggs
Gibbs had 25 yards in Montgomery had 40. So that's ass and cheeks.
- [148:23]
Pat McAfee
No, who said it? Did. Did Foxy say that? I did not say that. The Internet may be saying that. I did not say that. Oh, no, the Internet's this Jameer Gibbs was an MVP conversation a week ago. Monty just scored a Tide. I mean, what do we. Yeah, listen, I don't like it one bit. J.J. mcCarthy's getting a lot of credit. He played fine. Okay, he didn't do a lot, but he won the game. But let me say this. The Vikings defense, if. If they were ever gone, they're all the way back. That Vikings defense was incredible. The game plan was incredible. The coaching was incredible. What they did to the Lions stopped the run, and then they pressured golf and it was over. He was never comfortable the entire game. That defense was outstanding. And then JJ Made the plays that had to be made. Yeah, he did. And that's what he does. I think that that's cut of his gym. That's why he wears his sweet paint. And I did see him meditating on the field again. Don't get bullied into not doing your jj. You do whatever the you want to do, JJ to be good. You. It's your show, brother. We're literally here to watch you. That whole stadium is there to watch you do your thing. J.J. and I hope he continues to grow. And then all that stuff happened. You talk about the game plan and everything, and then you're the one that tweeted ass in cheeks or who. Who that was not me. Okay, you can check my account. I did not call them, and I never had have called them ass and cheeks. They will always be Sonic and Knuckles to me. I love Jamir. I love Monty. I don't like that that's happening right now, but did it look a lot like that week one loss where people did call them ass and cheeks? Yes, unfortunately, it looked exactly like that. It's a long season. This is going to happen. Yes. This is going to happen. Jonathan Taylor didn't go crazy either against Pittsburgh Steelers. And he had. What are they calling him?
- [149:58]
Tone Diggs
I didn't see anything.
- [149:59]
Pat McAfee
Mvp, Candace. Yeah. Yeah. That's what we're doing. That's what Colts fans are saying because we're supportive of our team. Okay. We don't automatically just immediately go to well, how can we make this exponentially worse? This little nickname they have here. Oh, I thought they were calling him hold out because he held out a couple years ago. Wow. That's what I saw. I did see that as well. I didn't see that. We're past that. But they need to pay that man his money. Were they calling that? No, they were not. This is Foxy's fictitious fairy tale land that he is living in. I also saw one about Dan Jones. They were calling him pumpkin and I didn't like that either. I wasn't going to call Dan Jones.
- [150:35]
Ty Schmidt
That out of respect for Dan Jones. The, the Colts overreaction is pretty good. But I. There's a lot of. Lot of mean stuff said about Dan Jones.
- [150:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And it's not Colts people, it's everybody else. Upon his down. No, you did not. You didn't check their, you didn't check their. Their accounts. They're saying I'm a Colts fan in this. That's a Giants.
- [150:54]
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
- [150:55]
Pat McAfee
That is some troll on here. Speaking of right now there is somebody acting like they represent our show sending requests to people to come on our show. We don't have at Gmail emails or any of these things. You will know if it's coming from us. And this is such a select group of people that need to hear this message. But there's multiple people getting messages from fake emails trying to book them on this show. We have no idea what they're trying to do do to you guys what information they're trying to get from you. The emails seem very nice if they were booking for us.
- [151:23]
Ty Schmidt
Not a bad job.
- [151:25]
Pat McAfee
The emails, there's a lot of effort in it to make it look like it's real. So there has to be some angle. We have no idea what it's for but multiple people have sent it to us. So just very small group there. You got to kind of do that. But on the cold stuff, people are trolling all the time. Let's go to the overreaction for the Colts. This is from Camden Cundiff. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact but cold trust are dead. The so called best offense in the league can't even beat the plastic curtain in the vaccinated Aaron Rodgers.
- [151:51]
Tone Diggs
He's not vaccinated.
- [151:52]
Pat McAfee
He's unvaccinated. Didn't realize Shane Sten and Daniel Jones were dressing up as Frank Wright, Carson Wentz on Sunday for Halloween.
- [152:00]
Connor Rogers
That's me. That's good. That was good work, Cam.
- [152:04]
Ty Schmidt
It's pretty good.
- [152:05]
Connor Rogers
You got to admit.
- [152:06]
Ty Schmidt
That's pretty darn good.
- [152:07]
Connor Rogers
That's what it's all about.
- [152:08]
Pat McAfee
That's a great overreaction.
- [152:09]
Tone Diggs
That's rude.
- [152:10]
Pat McAfee
Tying in Halloween to that.
- [152:12]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [152:12]
Pat McAfee
In terrible times. Those were hard times. Jacksonville Jaguars were dressed up like their fans were dressed up like clowns.
- [152:18]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [152:19]
Pat McAfee
Because they were calling the organization a clown show. And we just had to beat the team that had their fans in the stands dressing like clowns. It was clown time. And we make the playoffs, we lose the clon ton. The team that is getting openly ridiculed and mocked by their fan base. Base for being asinine and being terrible just knocked us out of the playoffs. What the hell just happened?
- [152:40]
Connor Rogers
Didn't have a head coach by that point. Urban was already fired.
- [152:45]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my gosh. That's what we were doing with Frank and Carson. Now, Frank, he was tough. Tough deck.
- [152:53]
Ty Schmidt
Of course he was.
- [152:54]
Connor Rogers
Stanford's got some big wins.
- [152:56]
Pat McAfee
Let's not even. You know, let's not even think about that. Stanford's an interesting place as well, but for the Colts, it was an interesting, you know, set of situation, especially even from the hiring all the way through the entire process. But, yeah, it's a lot different now with Danny Jones than it was with Carson Wentz. No offense. We love Carson Wentz. Obviously, it's Carson Wentz experience. Those are tough times, though, brother. Those are hard times. Halloween joke in there is pretty good.
- [153:21]
Tone Diggs
I didn't love the plastic shower curtain ricochet either.
- [153:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [153:24]
Tone Diggs
And Aaron's Amy.
- [153:25]
Pat McAfee
Nice, by the way. Okay.
- [153:26]
Tone Diggs
He's not fat.
- [153:26]
Pat McAfee
Saved. Yeah. And there was a chance at that time he potentially could have been. Now, I think it was certainly a ploy to get out of the question, but, I mean, he did his research. 500 page report. Nobody remembers that.
- [153:39]
Ty Schmidt
Nope.
- [153:40]
Pat McAfee
For my body, he said, here's a five. He had all these. Yeah.
- [153:45]
Ty Schmidt
Like one of those flip books.
- [153:47]
Pat McAfee
This is what my researcher said. Maybe the most amount of research on Covid at the time was in his. His hands.
- [153:52]
Tone Diggs
Yep.
- [153:53]
Pat McAfee
Just to see what would happen.
- [153:54]
Tone Diggs
A lot more than a lot of people are doing.
- [153:56]
Pat McAfee
What was a crazy time to be alive. We're in the middle of a lot of stuff. Yep. We're in the middle of a lot of stuff then. And I had to get it. What an interesting time to be alive. That said so much. I mean. I mean, Aaron. I think that was when Aaron was l. Basically publicly came out and said I'm not your puppet basically. And took a big shot.
- [154:19]
Tone Diggs
A heel Turner.
- [154:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, for some. Yeah, for some. And then there was others were like.
- [154:23]
Tone Diggs
You're right.
- [154:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Cuz we were in the middle. I mean there was a Venn diagram, this thing. Yeah. But it was like waves of people one way versus the other. Yep. You know, and then there's that middle part where they're kind of sharing and we were just somehow. Boom. Right in the middle of it. Somehow we found our way.
- [154:44]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [154:45]
Pat McAfee
That and hey, on that note, that's part of conversation. That's part of having a conversation with people.
- [154:50]
Connor Rogers
It's history.
- [154:50]
Pat McAfee
That was a wild time to be alive. Then he wins the MVP that year and the next year two time Covid. Mvp.
- [155:00]
Dan Orlovsky
Yep.
- [155:01]
Pat McAfee
That when they tell the story they're gonna have to say that. So during the COVID Actually this is. He was MVP on the field twice and then also off the field. Some people call calling him mvp, some people call him more suitable. Yeah. So this is all valuable.
- [155:13]
Connor Rogers
Patient.
- [155:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. They are saying, they were saying that was a crazy time. What if he wins it with the Steelers?
- [155:20]
Ty Schmidt
That'd be cool. That'd be really cool.
- [155:22]
Pat McAfee
Could you imagine that story?
- [155:24]
Tone Diggs
I just love how mad he is all time.
- [155:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. He gets. He go up field. Yeah. He's. He's the. The accountability is.
- [155:30]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. What was that Quentin Nelson thing about? Was he mad at him too?
- [155:33]
Pat McAfee
No. When Quentin Nelson came out and gave him the old ass. Mac gave him the old OG said good game.
- [155:38]
Tone Diggs
Quentin's a strong, strong guy though.
- [155:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he is. Strong guy. Ah, hey, I don't know if I'd want that. Yeah, I mean that was good. I mean he went full. That was full slap right there.
- [155:48]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [155:48]
Pat McAfee
He was thinking about going to the back. You know, the quarterbacks, backs. You never want her.
- [155:51]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
- [155:52]
Pat McAfee
Let's go and take down.
- [155:53]
Ty Schmidt
Get the ball cheeks.
- [155:54]
Pat McAfee
Let's go and give a little smack and run here. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Brett Thompson. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Seahawks are the hottest team in football. That belt to ass display in prison prime time shows exactly why they're the best in the west. McDonald has those boys firing on all cylinders. Offense, elite defense, Savage making songs. Bring the Lombardi back to Pike Place. I'll tell you what, Seattle in the super bowl conversation wasn't really happening nationally by a lot of people. I watched that commander's game and I just think, wow, they're Big, they're fast, they're strong. And offensively they can score. So you, you think, why not the Seattle Seahawks? And the more and more you watch, you think, why not the Seattle Seahawks? And then you realize, oh, the Seattle Seahawks are in this. Seattle Seahawks are in the super bowl conversation. And it's like, good for the Seahawks fans. Very loyal bunch.
- [156:40]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [156:41]
Pat McAfee
Now there's some times, trying times, they kick everybody out of the building, they paint over the walls. They don't have as much success. Sam Darnold getting out there, Cooper Cups over there coaching right now because he's not even playing. They're saying he's helping it all. It's like, good for the Seahawks, brother. Good for the Seahawks.
- [156:55]
Tone Diggs
They don't have any weaknesses. It feels like obviously, obviously Darnold in the play action game and because. Because of Kenneth Walker. He's been great. And all the weapons they have and then the defense like is just. And they do it with four a lot of time. I saw a stat earlier today, they have the highest pressure rate with only bringing four in the league. So then they could cover on the back end. They are. There's a good football team.
- [157:13]
Pat McAfee
Ups are. Really good football team. Really good football team. Let's go the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Guy Eastgate, Old East DG32. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Bears are a team of destiny. Ben and Caleb find a fucking way. Finally. Dare I say we might actually be good. Good, better, best. Never let it rest until your good gets better and your better gets best. Bear the fuck down. I'll tell you what, love the vibes in the locker room afterwards. Love that long of a chant and everybody being all in. You know, that's kind of a college feel that they seemingly have as they're building this culture over there. Offense, offense looks great, defense hums. Special teams gonna have to figure that out a little bit. I think Cairo had a pretty bad miss, but might just been a miss hit. He has been great for them over the long haul. But Caleb seemingly finding his way. Dan Orlovsky said he needs to be a little bit more structurally sound. Need to be a little bit more in the structure of the offense. And if you listen to that, then you would say there's so much more that he can get better at. You know, if that's the case, so good for the Chicago Bears. They might be for real.
- [158:16]
Connor Rogers
Oh, yeah. Like even that conversation we just had about the Vikings. So over the next 10 years with JJ and Kevin O'. Connell, it's like, shit, with Caleb and Ben Johnson, it's going to be exciting to see what happens with them. And then even, you know, Jordan Love and LaFleur or whoever they replace the floor with. But that's kind of the thing, that division, you know, we talked about earlier in the program about the NFC west, it's like, hey, that NFC north, just as big of a problem. They got a lot of good teams.
- [158:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Ben Johnson, obviously guru. Right. That's what they say. And he'll be around. No matter how much success they have, he's not like he's going to move on from the Chicago Bears. So Caleb, you would think will have same offense for a long time here whenever they start having success.
- [158:53]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. And I think, like, the Bears have already had three wins this year where in the last 15 years, they just lose those games. Like the. Any one of the Bears teams In the last 15 years, this play doesn't happen. You know, just take your pick. Like, they get down like that, and it's just. It's over. It's hard. Heartbreaking. Here we go again. For them to come back like they are, you know, they're. They're a scary team. If it's close in the fourth quarter now, which is not something you could say about the Bears anytime in the. In the recent, you know, I mean, literally, like the last 20 years.
- [159:24]
Pat McAfee
Bear done. All right, let's go to the next one here from the Carolina Panthers fans at Chris Underscore Riles. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but the Carolina Panthers are a threat to the NFC South. I don't have data. I don't have logic. I've just got a gut feeling and an unhealthy amount of blind faith. Hashtag, keep pounding. Panthers are good.
- [159:43]
Ty Schmidt
Football team.
- [159:43]
Pat McAfee
Football team. Huge win over Green Bay. Bryce Young doing his thing, and people are saying Rico Dowdell, not only is he one of the most entertaining people to maybe be playing football right now, might be one of the best football players on earth as we sit at this exact moment. He's really helped their offense. Obviously, whenever you can run as well as you can. Enrico D. Dowdell only doing two pumps, getting penalized. He can only get better and better from this point.
- [160:05]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. And we do have a Moz Gras situation here. It's actually Rico Dowdle. We've been pronouncing it wrong. Yeah. At least that's what I. I like dad heard them saying. Yeah.
- [160:14]
Pat McAfee
All right, Dowdle. Rico. Yeah, Rico. Yeah, Rico Great name. We don't even need to be best.
- [160:19]
Ty Schmidt
Running back in NFL history. You could call him that probably, if you wanted to.
- [160:22]
Pat McAfee
That's Green Bay packers fan. Just watch him do what he did in a big time win over the Green Bay Packers. Carolina of Panthers. Let's go football.
- [160:28]
Ty Schmidt
Let's go football. I mean, just like their game plan yesterday was perfect. They went for it on 4th and short a bunch because they were talking about the wind and like they, they picked up every single one of them. They possessed the ball so much, they kept it out of, you know, the packers hands. And then defensively, they just, they answered every bell they had to. Like, as a Packers fan, like, I'll be honest, there wasn't really a point during that game where I thought they were going to lose. I kind of thought, like, okay, no, no matter what, like, they're going to come back and it's going to be another ugly win. But to Carolina's credit, like, they just, they, they did what they had to do the entire game. And I think they knew, you know, probably about midway through the third quarter there, like, hey, if we continue to do what we've been doing all day, like this team can't beat us. And lo and behold, they couldn't.
- [161:10]
Pat McAfee
Let's go to Pooba Parker now. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Johnny Mo Stace, he inherited one of the biggest, best offenses in NFL history and turned him into a one dimensional dumpster fire. If Dan Campbell is truly an inspirational leader, he'll tell the team he failed them by hiring Morton. Hashtag, fire that fraud. Is this how you guys feel up there? I'm not there yet, but a lot of people are saying this. There's just so many things you watch yesterday where you go, okay, we're getting pressured. Ben Johnson would have fixed that. Oh, we can't run the ball. Ben Johnson would have fixed that. And so that's kind of where we're at as Lions fans with this offense. We were just clunky. Golf had no time. It was bad. The O line didn't look great. Just like week one against the Packers. If we can't run the ball, we're done. So that's kind of where we're at. Yeah. And Puba said, listen, you see what Ben's doing in Chicago, buddy? Let's pick this up. Caleb caught a touchdown.
- [162:01]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
- [162:02]
Pat McAfee
We want to see some hey, we like to have fun while we're watching our game too. Hey, we want to see some let's go ahead and let's not be boring. Offense. You know, we always had a little bit of special talent on offense, but never the best offense. Then we got the best offense. And let us tell you what it's like with the best offense. They do. They do a lot of. It's not just like, oh, you need to do fundamentally sound stuff. They try stuff, they experiment and also they're fun to watch. So let's go ahead and use all the guys that we had last year that we still have this year, and let's just do the same thing. They're asking average after week one, was that not week one question? A thousand percent. That's what was happening. Hey, you just do the same offense. Can you in theory do the same offenses last year? And it's like, well, you don't have the same feel as maybe Ben Johnson. You might want to call it differently. Maybe you're setting things up in a different way. Well, this guy. Will anybody that was to get this job have any chance with after what Ben Johnson was able to do with that Lions? No. I mean, we had a historic offense last year. The best offense in Lions history. So literally whoever's to going to get that job didn't have a chance. So that's why a lot of people now are calling for Dan Campbell to take the play sheet. He can call plays because Dan Campbell's certified. He can do whatever he wants in Detroit for the rest of his life. So if he's calling plays and he stinks, we'll be okay. Hey, he is certified. Thank you. Plays would be awesome. Yeah, that would be incredible. But if he was to do that, obviously he'd be taking play calling duties away from an offense coordinator that he promoted and he's proud of and everything like that. Exactly. So that becomes its own story. Somebody just.
- [163:26]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [163:26]
Tone Diggs
Stefanski gave up play calling to Tommy Reese.
- [163:29]
Pat McAfee
Tommy Reese, formerly of Notre Dame, I believe.
- [163:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yep. Yep.
- [163:32]
Pat McAfee
And everybody thought he was gonna become a head coach. He goes up to Cleveland. He. He's now getting play calling. This is back to back years now where Kevin Saansky giving up play calling.
- [163:40]
Tone Diggs
I believe that was the tweet that I saw.
- [163:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Is that real?
- [163:43]
Tone Diggs
I think it was from Mr. Rapapa.
- [163:45]
Pat McAfee
That's always the first move by head coach.
- [163:49]
Tone Diggs
Yep.
- [163:49]
Pat McAfee
Mean somebody did do something different. Something we gotta publicly announce.
- [163:53]
Tone Diggs
There's a lot of heat. Let's put it on them.
- [163:56]
Pat McAfee
Johnny Moe's catching it right now. All right, let's go to the next overreactions from Jordan at J Money Kearns. Hey, Jordan Kearns. Thanks for tweeting in. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but packers are frauds. Matt LaFleur has been prepared for a first half his entire life. Packers have the worst special teams unit for the 100th straight year. And now there ain't enough bush light to drown out the Tucker Craft entry. Let's. I'm bummed out. You are the one that selects these tweets.
- [164:20]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [164:21]
Pat McAfee
This one kind of encapsulated everything you were thinking about.
- [164:23]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I think that is pretty spot on on all fronts. You know, we got a guy who sets the franchise record kicking a couple. Couple weeks ago and I get it, they paid McManus. And he's been very good. You can tell. I mean, he's still hurt. At least that's the story. I'm going to go with. Misses a field goal yesterday. They absolutely needed to have yellow flag floor is just. I don't know. They're just. I mean, good teams don't do this. You're not just unprepared to. It's almost like he forgets that they have to play a game on Sunday and they play down to their competition week in and week out. Which is why I'm honestly, like, I'm not that. I'm not that concerned about the Eagles game next week on Monday night because I think they'll get up for that because they understand, like, that's a good team. We can't play like we did on Sunday or we'll get beat by five touchdowns. Touchdowns. But then the Tucker Craft injury is just the cherry on tie. He's the best player on their offense because they haven't been able to get the running game going really this year for whatever reason. And boy, it is going to look so much different without him out there. So, yeah, just not a great day to be a Packers fan.
- [165:24]
Pat McAfee
Hey, the Panthers are a good footballer. They're great footballers.
- [165:28]
Connor Rogers
That's right.
- [165:28]
Pat McAfee
All right, let's go to the next one from Cincinnati, Jake Bailey. It's trademark. Don't take it. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the University of Cincinnati Bearcats could score 40 plus on this Bengals defense. We have a high school level coaching staff and front office. Send Zach Taylor packing and sell the team. The Brown family has caused my family irreparable damages for decades. Hilarious. From Jake Bailey here. Cincinnati Bengals obviously lose in devastating fashion. I mean, just absolutely devastating fashion. And what's on horizon? Oh, trade deadline. Will anybody be on their Way out. Well, a bunch of people are requesting all relief.
- [166:03]
Tone Diggs
They'd like to.
- [166:04]
Pat McAfee
We're just a couple years away from our. Removed from them making it to a Super bowl and the jungle being absolutely absurd. Then they invest all the money in a couple different parts, none of it really being on the defensive side. They change the defensive coordinator, kick Lou Rano out of there, and now all hell breaks loose. They can't stop anybody. That's an unbelievable feat, especially for a team that's supposed to be in super bowl conversations, especially with the quarterback that they have. Joe Burrow gets hurt, Joe Flacco comes in, does his thing. Zach Taylor seemingly in a spot because the way they've pieced this team together and now it looks like they have no chance of winning anything. Tone. AFC north, obviously, Pittsburgh Steelers, Baltimore Ravens potentially, if they're able to go on a run after Thursday night. But the Bengals and the Browns, Bengals are supposed to be in the convo. Bengals now seemingly not in the convo at all. And Browns, obviously they got the head coach giving up play calling duties in the middle of the season.
- [166:49]
Tone Diggs
Yeah, those two teams are tough. The Browns were never supposed to be in it. But like you said, the Bengals and Ravens were the favorites because coming into the season in this division and they both started horrendously, things are coming back around for the Ravens. It feels like obviously Lamar is coming back healthy, they're getting teams healthy, they're starting to play a lot better defense. But for the Bengals side, after these back to back losses against the jets and now the Bears in the fashion that it happened, in the way that the locker room has responded to both of those, it feels like they might be out of the race.
- [167:18]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. It also sucks for Zach Taylor because like, I'm not saying, sure, it's his fault at this point, it kind of looks like a reverse Brown situation, you know, where the Browns, their ownership pays Desean Watson $230 million. Sure. And like, is he the one that is deciding, hey, we're not going to pay anyone on defense, we're only going to go with offense. Like, is that Zach Taylor or is that, you know, Blackburn and Duke Tobin and the front office? Like, that's why Zach Taylor is going to get the short end of the stick. Something does happen to change, so it would make sense that he's the guy. But like, I'm, I'm not completely out on Zach Taylor. The offense is unbelievable and he's calling the place and they, and they are still making it happen.
- [167:56]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. No matter what Happens. Zach Taylor, he's going to be calling play somewhere.
- [167:59]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [168:00]
Pat McAfee
And they're going to be very good very quickly. And I not saying that he's going to get fired, but even if he stays in Cincy, he's going to be calling plays and they're going to be very good very quickly. I'm. I'm excited to see how that all works. Especially, you know, down in Miami. They got a guy who's pretty good play caller.
- [168:15]
Connor Rogers
There you go.
- [168:15]
Pat McAfee
You know, head coach right now, Zach Taylor, pretty good play caller, head coach right now. What does the future look like? Well, if you listen to reports, everything's all hunk a dory. But it's the NFL. Is there anything ever hunk a dory?
- [168:27]
Ty Schmidt
No, I mean, I. Unfortunately it does sit like, like Conor was saying. Like I don't think it's all his fault, but something has to change and it's probably just time where like, like you said, he'll be okay. He'll go somewhere, be an OC for a year or two. Their offense will be unbelievable and he'll probably get another crack at it. But it's just like, I mean, it's every week. It's every week with this team. You know, Flacco's thrown for 470 yards and four touchdowns. And that's all we're talking about on Mondays. Like, boy, Bangles defense can't tackle anybody. They choked again. Like I. If you're. Yeah, if you're in that locker room, man, that it'd be hard to show up to work.
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Pat McAfee
How about all the offensive guys saying, yeah, I'm done with it, we're done with that. Can't do it anymore. It's like, boys, you knew this was going to happen. You had to have in the preseason had looking at the season as football people, you had to know that, hey, this might not be the way to go about doing it, but nonetheless, they're living it now. Let's go to the next one. Is from sleeper chiefs. Kc very active on the Internet. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Chiefs are going to win out after this bye week. It's a guarantee. Get healthy, make a trade in the next 24 hours and watch the goat QB with his fourth Super Bowl. Knicks, Danny Dimes and A. Aon are frauds. The AFC is up for grabs and a cream rises to the top. Take it easy sleeper. Jesus. Danny Dimes a fraud, bro. It's real deal. Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, right. If he was a fraud, do you think he'd still be playing at 41 years.
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Tone Diggs
Four time MVP.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, right, dude. Now, I get it. You guys are looking to win your fourth super bowl under this era, and that's certainly been a lot of fun. But there's a lot of competition in this afc, let alone Knicks is still only getting better.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
He's just at the very beginning of his entire run here and he. And on that note, I agree with everything you're saying. I agree with everything you're saying. I love this Chiefs team. And if Patrick Mahomes can survive.
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Ty Schmidt
Okay?
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Pat McAfee
And I think Josh Simmons reporting back to the facility. They have a bye week here. So it's two weeks in. He's left tackle, supposed to be very good, hasn't been playing. Maybe this bye week, him coming back will be good for them. Maybe they're able to take care of one of the issues that is certainly happening, not being able to protect. Do we have another one or is that the last one? That's the last one. All right. Thank you for all the tweets on Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but that was very fun. All right, let's get the hell out of here, shall we? Let's enjoy tonight's game. I am on the Cardinals plus three and a half. Might be a terrible pick. I was under.500 this weekend, so take that however you want.
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Tone Diggs
Might be a good pick.
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Pat McAfee
Might be a great pick.
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Ty Schmidt
Bingo.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, that sports gambling, baby.
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Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
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Pat McAfee
Dak takes on Jacobe Brissette. Dan Orlovsky says look for Buddha number three up there to get his hand on a ball or two. Tonight, look for this Arizona Cardinals team to be hunting out there with Gannon and the boys. And then on the other side, look for the Dallas Cowboys. To do what the Dallas Cowboys do best, they'll put on a damn show. Can't wait for it. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might just change your life. We're in this thing together. Good work today, boys. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team, goodbye.