The Pat McAfee Show 2.0, Episode 1444 – NFL Trade Deadline/BA Day

Date: November 4, 2025
Host: Pat McAfee with AJ Hawk, Darius Butler, Bruce Arians (“Coach BA”), The Toxic Table, Tone Digs
Guests: Adam Schefter, Bruce Arians, Cam Little, Jordan Poyer

Brief Overview

This explosive episode of The Pat McAfee Show centers on NFL Trade Deadline Day—a wild, fast-moving day of blockbuster trades, instant reactions, and deep dives with an all-star cast. Pat and the boys tackle the swirling trade rumors, dissect the biggest deals including the shocking Sauce Gardner and Quinnen Williams trades, hand out “BA’s game balls,” recap MNF, spotlight Jaguars kicker Cam Little’s historic 68-yarder, talk Colts Super Bowl window, and still find time for fun cornhole challenges and spicy debate about NFL media accessibility.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Welcome & Banter (00:00–04:20)

• Darius Butler returns: Celebrates his daughter’s success on the high school golf team, discussing the highs and nerves of watching loved ones compete.
  • “As a dad, that makes you proud to see, especially with golf… all eyes on you. I can’t understand even how rattling that could be…” – Darius, [01:26]
• Bruce Arians reflects on coaching legacy, family mentorship, and the “cool uncle” dynamic over father-figure label.
  • “I was that cool uncle you want to have a drink with.”—Coach BA, [03:43]

MNF Recap / Arizona Cardinals’ Rise (04:20–09:26)

• Arizona Cardinals defeat Dallas Cowboys, Jacoby Brissett at QB looks like a stabilizing force. Marvin Harrison Jr. and TE Trey McBride stand out.
• Pat gives context:
  • “This Cardinals team might be R. Hey, don’t look now. The Arizona Cardinals might not be ass.”—Pat, [05:57]
• Coach BA credits Cardinals’ improvement to Brissett’s leadership and ‘settling’ of the defense; thinks “they can really make a move.” [07:43]
  • “With Jacoby preset, he’s calmed them down and their defense is playing lights out.” —BA

Cowboys Struggles & Trade Deadline Hype (09:26–14:25)

• Cowboys falter again; their “star power” and distractions are dissected, with a focus on Jerry Jones’s “lightning rod” personality.
  • “I am a distraction. A very, very, very expensive distraction at all times.” —Pat on Jerry Jones, [22:00]
• Cowboys respond to MNF loss by trading for Logan Wilson: but Troy Aikman and others doubt any single addition will “fix” Dallas this season.

Trade Deadline Moves & “BS or No BS with BA” (14:25–38:31)

Notable Trades/Deals

• Jacoby Myers to Jacksonville Jaguars (Raiders get Jags’ 4th and 6th rounders).
  • Adam Schefter breaks the news, shines light on trade mechanics/cap situation, Teams interested: Jags & Pittsburgh Steelers.
  • “Jacksonville headed into today with 13 draft picks… now have 11 after this.”—Schefter, [10:26]
• Draymond Jones from Titans to Ravens (conditional 5th—escalates to a 4th if certain benchmarks are hit).
  • “Their pass rush has been inept at best… He’s going to be a big upgrade for them.” —Coach BA, [18:07]

BS or No BS with BA Segment

• Kyler Murray vs. Jacoby Brissett in Arizona
  • “Too many dollars involved in this one… as soon as he’s healthy, [Kyler] is going to be back in there.”—Coach BA, [31:49]
• NFC North Playoff Sweep?
  • “I think that’s no BS. Chicago is playing extremely well… This is going to be really fun all the way to the end.”—BA, [36:12]
• Broncos, AFC West Best?
  • “That is total… no BS baby. This defense is legit. You win championships with defense and a really solid quarterback.” —BA, [38:31]

Blockbuster Trades & Instant Reactions (44:44–61:26)

Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts

• Details: Sauce Gardner traded from the Jets to the Colts for two 1st-round picks (likely late), plus WR AD Mitchell.
• Pat, stunned: “Two first round picks for a corner is—so now we got our answer why the Jets moved on.” [47:44]
• Darius Butler: “...this is another sign that the Big Three [Colts’ ownership]… want to win NOW.” [45:49]
• BA: “I think it’s a fantastic move by Chris Ballard and the Big Three. That locker room is going to be jacked up.” [49:35]

Rashid Shahid to the Seahawks

• Speedster WR Rashid Shahid sent to Seattle for 4th/5th round picks.
  • “He’s a game-wrecker, boy. Maybe the fastest guy in the league.” —BA [53:23]
  • Discussion how Shahid & JSN instantly transform Seattle’s WR threats.

“Owners Going All-In” & Colts’ Super Bowl Window (61:26–68:00)

• Colts’ all-in approach: “Feels like now is the window… right now is officially the window where the Colts are expecting to win a Super Bowl.” —Pat, [63:37]
• BA underscores salary cap wizardry available when you want to “win now.” [63:53]
  • “There’s ways of maneuvring [the cap]. When you got a chance to win, you go win.”

NFL Media Rights Rant (73:45–76:10)

• Frustration erupts over NFL game access, “cord-cutting” chaos, and TV rights blackouts.
  • “We need more sports, not less sports. And we need more people watching sports, not less people.” —Pat, [115:56]
• Booing of the ongoing Disney/Spectrum/YouTube TV negotiations, illustrates fans’ frustration.

NFL Player Interviews: Cam Little & Jordan Poyer

Cam Little, Jaguars Kicker, 68-yd NFL Record FG (41:18+, see full expanded interview at episode's close)

• Recounts technique, mindset, and rise to the NFL’s youngest kicker.
  • “Ball contact and leg speed is the key to kicking the ball so far and high.” —Cam, [42:02]
  • On the new K-balls: “You can hit the ball just about three or four yards farther, but I think guys are just getting more talented.” —Cam
• Humorous aside: “I was eating a bologna sandwich—got bit by a dog. Didn’t get my sandwich, but got my eye.” —Cam [141:31]
• Leaves plate/ball in pantry, not yet on display.

Jordan Poyer, Buffalo Bills Safety (88:32+)

• Talks old head mentoring role (“Unk”), team culture, defense beating the Chiefs, transition from IR to sage veteran.
  • “I’m grateful… I didn’t want to leave after getting cut here a couple years ago. They call me Unk now.” —Poyer [90:33]
  • Praises Bills’ coaching, crowd noise, and post-bye week trends.

Additional Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On Jerry Jones as Distraction

• “Is it a bad thing that Jerry thinks this way, or do you think it’s okay as long as the football side… is separated from the state, if that makes sense?” —Pat [23:07]
• “As long as they’re talking about us, good or bad, as long as they’re talking about us, we’re good.” —Coach BA [23:21]
• “Owner Jerry might be getting in the way of managing Jerry.”—Pat [24:15]

On “Hip Drop Tackle” Suspension

• “This is more dangerous than the horse collar… this is a very dangerous play. It has to be out of the game.” —BA [84:51]

On Sports & Media Deals

• “Let’s put our swords down… We need more sports, not less sports. And we need more people watching sports, not less people…” —Pat [115:56]

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–04:20 – Show open, Darius’s golf/daughter story
• 04:20–09:26 – MNF/Arizona Cardinals recap, Cowboys trade
• 09:26–14:25 – Cowboys scrutiny, trade deadline hype
• 14:25–38:31 – Trade updates, “BS or No BS with BA”
• 44:44–61:26 – Blockbuster trades: Sauce Gardner, Rashid Shahid
• 61:26–68:00 – Colts roster window discussion
• 68:00–76:10 – Media rights rant
• 88:32–103:46 – Jordan Poyer interview (Bills culture, “Unk”, defense vs KC)
• Cam Little interview (kicking, 68-yd FG, kicker evolution) - [41:18+] and episode close
• 84:51 – Coach BA on “hip drop tackle” suspensions

Flow and Tone

The episode maintains Pat McAfee’s infectious energy—irreverent, fast-paced, but deeply informed and passionate about football. There’s genuine shock and raw reactions to trades, rapid-fire analysis, and playful digs (especially at coaches, media execs, and each other).

Notable is the show’s ability to balance hard football analysis with locker room humor, authenticity, and inside anecdotes.

Summary Table: Major Trade Moves Discussed

| Player/Coach | From | To | Compensation | Segment Timestamp | |---------------------|-----------------|------------------|--------------------------------------|-------------------| | Sauce Gardner | NY Jets | Colts | 2 Firsts + WR AD Mitchell | 44:44–61:26 | | Quinnen Williams | NY Jets | Cowboys | 1st + 2nd (per Glazer; pending) | 123:38–127:55 | | Draymond Jones | Titans | Ravens | Conditional 5th (could escalate) | 17:40–20:07 | | Rashid Shahid | Saints | Seahawks | 4th & 5th round picks | 53:09–55:44 | | Jacoby Myers | Raiders | Jaguars | 4th & 6th round picks | 09:26–14:25 | | Logan Wilson | Bengals | Cowboys | (Not specified) | 20:53–21:45 |

For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

• This episode is a must-hear for NFL fans wanting real-time trade deadline reactions, locker-room-level dish, and insights from a Hall of Fame coach, an NFL insider, and NFL veterans—with Pat’s signature comedic, streetwise run on the action.
• The discussion around the Colts’ “all in” moment, the future of the Cardinals QB situation, whether Jerry Jones helps or hurts the Cowboys, and the NFL’s access/media ‘cord wars’ are candid, often hilarious, and far more honest than most sports talk.
• The player interviews (Cam Little, Jordan Poyer) are not to be missed for unique perspectives on kicking evolution and what it means to shift from “star” to “unk” in the NFL.
• Finally, the show one-ups most by reacting live to trade news seconds after they drop—putting listeners right in the middle of trade deadline chaos.

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