PMS 2.0 1445 - Watt Wednesday, Peter Schrager, Calvin Johnson, Stanford Steve, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley, Everything DB with Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show PMS 2.0 #1445 – November 5, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 focuses on the seismic fallout post-NFL trade deadline, breaking down the blockbuster moves that reshaped contender rosters (especially Sauce Gardner to the Colts and Quinnen Williams to the Cowboys), the QB carousel in Arizona, and the new dynamics for rebuilding teams like the Jets. With McAfee’s signature mix of expertise and comedic banter, the crew hosts an all-star slate of guests including Peter Schrager, Calvin Johnson, Stanford Steve, J.J. Watt, and in-house experts like Darius Butler, AQ Shipley, and AJ Hawk. Core topics include NFL trade analysis, the shifting landscape in both college and professional football, player perspectives on trades and transitions, and the business behind aggressive front office moves.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NFL Trade Deadline – The Blockbuster Moves

(00:00–07:39, 24:15–47:42)

• Main focus: The Colts' acquisition of Sauce Gardner for two first-rounders and receiver AD Mitchell, and the Cowboys' trade for Quinnen Williams.
• Context: Colts new ownership going "all-in," sending a clear organizational signal by making a massive trade to try to win now.
• Analysis: McAfee, Darius Butler, and AQ Shipley debate the value of giving up multiple high picks for an elite corner, impact on the Colts’ image, and what Sauce brings to their secondary.
• Peter Schrager joins with insider insight into how the deal materialized — the Jets weren’t shopping Sauce until they got "a Godfather offer they couldn’t refuse."
• Jets perspective: Acknowledgment that this is a full-scale rebuild, accumulating draft capital but risking the loss of previously drafted stars for unknowns.
• Cowboys’ Quinnen Williams move: Platform to halt runaway opponents and re-anchor a run defense.

"If we're Sauce Gardner away from winning a Super Bowl, bingo – fleece whatever you want! Because outside our fleeces will be a f***ing Super Bowl ring."
— Pat McAfee (04:04)

"Who cares what picks you gave up if you win? That's your first-round pick—right on your finger."
— Pat McAfee / Peter Schrager (26:09, 26:26)

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2. Arizona Cardinals' QB Change – Jacoby Brissett In, Kyler Murray Out (For Now?)

(08:03–20:16)

• Storyline: Jacoby Brissett named starter for Arizona over super-high-priced Kyler Murray.
• AQ Shipley (Cardinals’ color commentator): Breakdown of fan and organizational reactions — Jacoby has been more efficient, productive, and better leader recently; unique success on third-and-long.
• Discussion: What’s next for Kyler Murray? Is a move to baseball feasible? Panel pokes fun (and doubts) at the logistical and competitive difficulty of just “switching to MLB.”
• Business reality: Even with Kyler’s $200 million contract, new Cardinals GM/Coach have no loyalty to prior regimes’ big signings.

"With the juice around Jacoby so real, I came away thinking—maybe there’s a future with Brissett as the guy there. But, the Kyler contract… it’s over $100 million in dead cap."
— Peter Schrager (21:22)

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3. Inside the Trade – Colts’ and Jets’ Mindsets

(24:15–37:55)

• McAfee and Schrager dissect the “all chips in” Colts philosophy, contextualizing Indy’s willingness to mortgage the future for star power today.
• Jets' plan: Accumulating five first- or second-round picks; discussion of patience, repeated rebuilds, and not tying new administration to old regime mistakes.
• Fan perspective: The emotional cost of trading beloved players (“kid crying in his Sauce Gardner jersey…”).
• Notable quote:

"Those four [Jets] guys all panned out — and guess what, they stink. Quarterback matters. It doesn’t matter if you draft well everywhere else."
— Peter Schrager (31:17)

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4. Cowboys’ Deadline Strategy & Market Setting

(33:48–43:22)

• The Cowboys landed Quinnen Williams and Logan Wilson, reinforcing the defense for primetime stretches.
• Trades for star skill players (e.g., Jalen Waddle, Bradley Chubb) didn’t materialize; prices escalated after the Sauce deal.
• Trade deadline theme: The days of conservative deadlines are over – aggressive swings are here to stay.

"When Sauce goes for two firsts, everyone at trade deadline’s like, ‘Oh, I didn’t know we’re giving up that!’"
— Pat McAfee (43:46)

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5. Player Perspective: Calvin Johnson Interview

(49:09–56:09)

• Calvin Johnson discusses his post-career business evolution and the synergy of his philanthropic work with RealTruck’s new flagship store launch.
• On Dan Campbell’s Lions: "That player-coach feel… you get buy-in because half that staff are former players. It’s a great culture."
• On Stafford’s evolution: “He looks stressless — just taking it to a whole new level, making different throws… just looks easy for him now."
• What corners gave him trouble: Long-armed, catch-technique corners who latched on just beyond five yards — something today’s rules make nearly impossible.

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6. College Football Playoff (CFP) Bracket & Analysis

(66:32–76:04, 143:26–170:32)

• Discussion of the first CFP committee bracket, with Tone and Stanford Steve analyzing surprises (e.g., Oregon disrespected? Notre Dame rewarded for close losses over teams like Texas).
• CFP rankings are subjective and context-heavy — conference politics loom large.
• The show discusses the culture and pressure on "blue bloods" like Notre Dame and debates auto-bids/criteria for future expansion.

"The committee seems to be rewarding close losses – that’s pretty evident."
— Stanford Steve (148:10)

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7. 'In the Trenches' with AQ Shipley: Week 9 OL Power Rankings

(172:02–181:47)

• #5: 49ers – creative and punishing, especially with Juice’s motion.
• #4: Rams – simplicity pays off, downhill zone runs.
• #3: Panthers – offensive line thriving despite injuries, clever misdirection vs. Packers.
• #2: Bills – most physical team in AFC this week.
• #1: Bears – sheer dominance, multiple bodies on the ground every play.

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8. Everything DB with Darius Butler: Defensive Standouts and Blunders

(182:21–191:37)

• Highlights top secondary plays (Buffalo’s disguises stifling Mahomes, Jaguars’ clutch INTs).
• Breaks down key coverage techniques (e.g., “tailpipe” on mesh routes).
• Bad D: Bears’ last-second defensive collapse (potential “No Mas” scenario to give offense another chance?).
• Notable coaching: Mark Andrews faking the mesh for a TD with Lamar.

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9. NFL Player Trade and Business Mentality

(88:00–89:48)

• J.J. Watt & Pat discuss how player attitudes toward trades and the business side have evolved; the NIL era has made young players more prepared for “just business” reality.
• Contrast the old model of loyalty/tribe mentality with the current landscape featuring frequent jersey swaps, fantasy football, and shifting allegiances.

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10. Lighter Moments & Inside Jokes

• Lengthy riffing on the logistics and risks of cloning your dog (Tom Brady allegedly did it), birds-as-government-spies, and McAfee’s recollection of “The Staircase” owl-murder documentary.
• UBall updates, inside show competitions, and playful shots at the show’s own “insider.”

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Notable Quotes and Moments with Timestamps

• On the Colts’ trade:
  “This is a huge move. Congratulations. Very thankful you did this…We’re not scared to get a deal done whenever some other people would not maybe push it through.”
  — Pat McAfee (04:04)

• Jets’ perpetual rebuild:
  “Those guys, that 2022 draft … they all panned out. And guess what? Even with all those guys, they stink. Quarterback matters. And it’s becoming more and more evident every day.”
  — Peter Schrager (31:17)

• Fan heartbreak, child’s point of view:
  “That’s the first time he’s experienced what life is as a Jets fan.”
  — Pat McAfee (32:55)

• NFL trade deadline shift:
  “It wasn’t this way five, ten years ago…But I loved yesterday because teams were taking swings and other teams were being honest with themselves and looking in the mirror.”
  — Peter Schrager (40:35)

• Aggressive team-building:
  “When you win, the business grows…We want to be the greatest—wins will happen if we’re the greatest.”
  — Pat McAfee (46:09)

• Calvin Johnson on Dan Campbell:
  “Player-coach, man. You get buy-in…half that staff are former players. The energy, the environment to thrive as the best version of yourself—that’s what Dan’s creating.”
  — Calvin Johnson (51:54)

• On Patriots’ turnaround:
  “The Patriots are for real. Drake May’s number two in the MVP odds right now... It shows how valuable it is when you get it right at quarterback and pair that up with Mike Vrabel."
  — AJ Hawk (122:11)

• Colts fan, on the trade for Sauce Gardner:
  “If Sauce is the one that lifts this defense to a place where we can win a Super Bowl, who cares about the picks?”
  — Pat McAfee (26:08)

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Important Segments (Timestamps)

• 00:00–08:03 — Colts, Cowboys, Jets trade reactions
• 08:03–20:16 — Cardinals bench Kyler, QB carousel, “Baseball Kyler?”
• 24:15–47:42 — Schrager on trade philosophy, Jets' new regime, deadline landscape
• 49:09–56:09 — Calvin Johnson interview (RealTruck and Lions culture)
• 66:32–76:04 — College Football Playoff bracket discussion
• 143:26–170:32 — Stanford Steve & Tone break down CFP, bracket subjectivity
• 172:02–181:47 — In the Trenches: OL rankings
• 182:21–191:37 — Everything DB: top defensive plays/blunders

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Highlights of Tone and Language

• Original language and banter maintained: The cast bounces from insight to inside jokes, mixing analysis with off-the-cuff mantras (e.g., “Football is absolutely magical,” “We go hard for ball.”)
• Humorous perspective with depth: The show’s tone embodies knowledge-meets-comedy:
  “When Sauce goes for two firsts, everyone’s like, ‘I didn’t know we’re giving up that at the deadline!’” — capturing both disbelief and entertainment value of frantic NFL moves.

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For Listeners Who Want the Key Takeaways

• The 2025 trade deadline marks a new NFL era of ultra-aggressive front-office moves with teams like the Colts and Cowboys “going for it” and other franchises (Jets) hitting reset.
• Indianapolis and Dallas are pushing in their chips; both face future judgment by the outcome.
• The Cardinals are embracing quarterback flexibility, Kyler’s future is uncertain, and MLB dreams are mostly a punchline.
• College football’s playoff expansion is already sparking new debates over subjectivity, conference politics, and who “deserves” a spot—the Notre Dame effect looms large.
• Run the ball and win in the trenches: both on-field (OL breakdowns) and in the front office.
• Sports are business, feelings are fleeting—players and teams are more transactional than ever.
• The show delivers both high-level analysis and behind-the-scenes storytelling, with plenty of irreverence and camaraderie.

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For fans who missed it:
This episode is a masterclass in NFL landscape-shifting events, highlighting the intersection between high-stakes business, coaching philosophies, player emotions, and the ever-present quest to win now. It’s delivered with the unbeatable chemistry and comedy that define The Pat McAfee Show.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello, beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode. The Thunderdome on this wat. Wednesday, November 5, 2025 this sports program begins right now. Football is absolutely magical and we're so lucky that we get to talk about it every single day. We are now in a world post trade deadline for all of our NFL teams. Did your team get better at the trade deadline? Did they take a massive swing and give up a couple first round picks maybe so that they can put their team in a position to go ahead and super bowl like the Indianapolis Colts did? And even the Dallas Cowboys who traded away a first rounder? Or are you on the New York jets and staring down a full rebuild? With who? Young players that are good. Well, we just got rid of a couple young players that are good. We need to find new young players that are good so we can kind of strip this thing down and rebuild it in a brand new image because we've been assed. So we apologize for getting rid of some of your favorite players. And that little boy over there.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, no.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Who learned of Sauce Gardener's release from his father in the kitchen. He would go on to throw a full on fit temper tantrum, tears, yelling, screams. Because Sauce Gardner, his favorite player, is no longer a member of the jets and now he's a member of the Indianapolis Colts. I would like to let that boy know, come on over to the shoe brother.

[Boston Connor]

Be smart.

[Pat McAfee]

It is a great time to be a part of the shoe. We got a team, we got a quarterback, we got a coach, and we got ownership group, the big three that aren't scared to step right into the batter's box and take a massive hack. Just a few months into being, the owners of the Indianapolis Colts, they give away a couple first rounders to bring Sauce Gardner back. And breaking news as of yesterday, Josh Downs will go dons to business just like his brother Caleb. And where the number two, he was previously the number one. As of two days ago, he's going to two. He is too slippery, too good, too cool, too sweet. And he's dons to business alongside his brother with the number two. Sauce Gardner will be wearing the number one for the Indianapolis Colts. As a person who wore the number one with a lot of pride, I appreciate denim that number one. We had a top 10 in jersey sales there for a little bit. Number one for the Indianapolis Colts. It's obviously slimming. Not as slimming as the number 11. So that is why I necessarily liked it. On draft day, I was drafted pick 222, you know, seventh round there's a lot of commotion after you get drafted to an NFL team, especially if it feels like you're not going to get drafted and you're going to have to go back to school. Maybe all the drunks in your house who have given up hope on you making it to the NFL aren't now realizing, like, oh, he's just going to be drunk with us, Basically, that's what we're going to do. And then you get drafted and it's announced on television, and everybody goes crazy, and you're talking to somebody that's in Indianapolis. They're like, we got a couple things. What time do you want to fly out for rookie minicam? Whatever the earliest flight is. I'm good with whatever, thank you. No problems. And then you got people saying, yeah, we're fine. We did it. Yeah, we did. Yeah, we did. What number do you want? What's that? What number do you want? What's available? One.

[AP Tone]

Good.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll take that one. I can't believe I have a number. I'll take number one for sure. Okay, we'll see you on Friday. Good. Bang, hang up, beers, celebration, craziness. Pat, why'd you pick the number one? Literally? Because it was just full chaos around me. And then once you get the number one, you're like, this is a pretty sick number. All of a sudden you feel like a sense of purpose, okay, I am number one. This two is not a win. You start thinking about it, all of a sudden it starts looking cool. And then you start doing well, and you're like, wait, I do seemingly have a connection to this number. I love this number. This is a cool number. It's better number one than any other number, I guess, especially if you're going to do your job well. And then all of a sudden, that number one just gets handed off to somebody else. Literally the year after I retired, I'm like, no connection. Why do I have any connection to that number? I should not feel a connection to that number. Then it gets handed off again. Then it gets handed off again. Then Josh Downs gets it, and I see him electrifying. I'm like, at least the number ones out there flying around. Like, I like what we're doing right there. It's a nice trip back in time. I love Josh Downs with it. Now a guy named Sauce is going to be wearing it. He's going to look so filthy. This is his forever. I believe every one jersey you see going forward will say garter. I'm going to get one because I would Like Sauce to know that we are very thankful that he is a member of the Indianapolis Colts. Obviously, it's the headline of trade deadline. It's the big storyline, and we're trying to get, you know, more information as it unfolds. How do we get here? You know, there's a guy named Seth Wald. Walder.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, Walder.

[Pat McAfee]

Seth Walder works at ESPN now. We looked him up. We don't know if it's his accurate account or not. 77 followers or so. So Seth says we know that it's a big deal. He said that the Colts got a D on this trade and the jets got an A. Okay. Because they also get AD Mitchell alongside the two first rounders. Saw a lot of people potentially saying that that's the case. Hey, jets fleece the Colts. Jets fleece the Colts. If we're Sauce Gardner away from winning a Super bowl, bingo. Fleece. That's all you want. Fleece whatever the hell you want to fleece. Because we'll be wearing our fleeces and right outside of them will be a fucking super bowl ring. And the Colts think that this was a move that can put them in a position to go win. I asked big, you know, hey, this is a huge move. Congratulations. Very thankful you did this. It's a message to your entire fan base, to the entire NFL. Hey, we understand what window we're in right now. We're going to go for it. And we're not scared to get a deal done whenever some other people would not maybe push it through, we'll do that. And also, they trust Chris. Like, hey, Chris Ballard has always said, we like our guys, we like our guys. We like our guys. All his guys right now are playing the football that they're playing. They just bring in a quarterback and a couple other culture setters and then all of a sudden we got a super team. And that's what it feels like here in Indianapolis. So you can say it's a D. You can say we gave up too much. We here in India are like, we're. We're in a fucking super bowl because Sauce Gardiner's on a team. Reach out to Lou Annarumo, defensive coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts. Say, hey, what's quite. You know, he spoke to press right before the trade happened, so just want to get his thoughts on it. Love the addition of Sauce. It gives us another Pro bowl corner. The guy's been a lockdown player his whole career and gives us the chance to match him and Ward up on different receivers. Two super smart football players. I can't say enough about Sauce Gardner being on our team. We just elevate our. Our whole defense is Lou Anarumo, who. Every player that's ever played for loves him. And you see his defense and what he's been able to do for us this year had a couple injuries. Obviously, we're trying to figure it out, but they've invested a lot of money into this defense. We invest in Luannarumo as our defensive coordinator. Obviously think the offense good with Shane Steichen, let's lock up the defense. What did you get from that quote from Lou? Because whenever he said they're both super smart players and we're able to put them on receivers, what does that mean, you think in Lou Anarumo's eyes, with what he can do with the defense.

[Darius Butler]

Man, that just gives you so much freedom, so many more resources, so many more different places that you could put resources like a left tackle who you could just put on the island, just put by themselves. When all these teams, we look around the league, especially the teams that's going to be there in the end, they have one, two, maybe three, like weapons that can kind of change the math. So when you have corners that can offset down on the other side, chess pieces almost that can match up with these different receivers, that's huge. And the Colts, they kind of played their most man to man coverage last week against the Steelers. Obviously we lost, but I feel like the defense had a pretty good outing, played a lot of man to man. So maybe that's. Lou wants to do a little more with this defense. You know, all the different, different things that he. As far as disguise, different simulated pressures, blitzes, when you do all those different things, a lot of these coverages on the edges, they turn to man to man for the corners, quarters cover three, all these, they turn into man to man once these routes release down the field. So getting a weapon like this, if he can play up to who he's been in this league at his peak now, I would say it's kind of been a. Not a fall off, but a little decline in this play. I would say probably last season and a half maybe, but I think fresh start, new plays, he can definitely get back to being at top two, three corner. Motivation for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Super Bowl.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah. Good team.

[Pat McAfee]

He immediately goes one and seven.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. To seven and two. Hey, we're trying to go for a Super bowl and you saw what we just gave up for you. It's like this team is very thankful for you. That type of mentality and mindset coming into a place he's going to be welcomed and he's going to be celebrated like hell. And the number one is hopefully going to be gluing guys down. Let's talk about some other storylines. Obviously, trade deadline day. It's basically been announced now. Jacoby Brissette's starter for the Arizona Cardinals. Congrats to him. Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

Kobe Brissette, former starter for the Indianapolis Colts. This man, I was pushing for him to be the MVP that season. He led the Indianapolis Colts. Whenever we were in the middle of a quarterback carousel in phenomenal ways, he was a leader. Everybody loved him. He was calling meetings. The team would obviously fight for him. And he was doing an offense. Frank Reich, I believe offense in a way that we hadn't seen. And it was like, everybody's on board. This guy is leading the Colts to. To the promised land. Now, obviously, one thing leads to another, he ends up leaving us. He goes to another job, goes to another job. Kind of bounces around. Jacoby Brissette, backup quarterback. Why is this GU still in the league? A lot of people say, well, it's because he's a damn good football player. And out there in Arizona, they haven't had a chance to be able to get him on the field. And that offense is executing better with him than anybody else we've seen, including Kyler Murray, who they just paid $200 million. We were talking to Bruce Arians yesterday, former coach of the Arizona Cardinals, and he said, tyler Murray is going to be starting quarterback for that team whenever he's healthy. A lot of money was given to Kyler Murray. There's no way they're just going to let that kind of just sit on the sideline, then just a couple hours later. Yep, we are. We actually will do that. They're moving on with Jacob. Let's go to their color commentator. The Arizona Cardinals, a man who knows this team a lot better than maybe anybody with the research that he's had to do to call these games for the Arizona Cardinals fans. And he rides the wave of the game.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, he rides a wave. You kind of got shades of Myron Cope in there whenever he's talking about stuff. The legendary Pittsburgh Steelers commentator AQ Shipley here. Now, aq, obviously you played for the Arizona Cardinals, amongst many other teams. You're a Super bowl champion. Now you're doing color commentary for the team, for the local audience. What are. What is the reaction out there? You know, because obviously, obviously, ba's reaction was, it will never Happen because business wise, across the entire league, it's like Kyler Murray's upside. What he could be, he could be special, obviously. Very high draft pick. Very, very high draft pick in Arizona. How do they view it? Is everybody on board with Jacoby, like, basically fan wise? And what does this mean for the future? You think with Kyler and the Cardinals.

[AQ Shipley]

They love Jacoby Brissetti. He's been fantastic. And when you watch what he's done, when you look at him against the Colts, then to the packers, two of the best teams in football, the offense was so much more fluid, so much more efficient. The ball is getting distributed to more people. He has been fantastic. And then he comes out against the Cowboys and was basically flawless. The one interesting thing, he's been fantastic on third and long. Whereas typically, you typically go draws, you go screens, you do all these things. He's hitting third and 23, throwing a 43 yard pass, and they're getting first downs. It's been fantastic. He's great in the play action. He knows Drew Petzing and he's distributed. He's thrown more touchdown passes to Trey McBride this year than he has thrown to Trey McBride from Kyler his entire career.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I heard Trey McBride more touchdowns in like the last three games than Trey McBride and Kyler throughout the entirety of a couple seasons. Adam Schefter reported that Kyler Murray's Kyler Murray and the Cardinals have consulted with multiple doctors on his foot injury and have been told the timetables for recovery have been anywhere from four to eight weeks. Okay, one month, two months. With an increased chance of setback until it's properly healed, Murray now has more time to heal. Wow. The partners get a chance to kind of experience what Jacoby brasectomy as a starter D. But that's kind of. That's good news. Get him completely healthy and also get a chance to see what it's like for Jacoby. That's in a good spot for the Arizona Cardinals.

[Boston Connor]

You think?

[Darius Butler]

Yes, it's a good spot. It's a good problem to have. Obviously, we always said, now if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have any. So you do want to have a clear direction with whoever that guy will be. Now, with KYLER not being 100%, I know a lot of people were kind of calling this a soft benching. I did see a quote, I believe, from Jonathan Gannon. I don't know if it was confirmed. I did see Rap sheet retweeted. So I kind of took it for, you know, being the truth. And then basically saying even if Kyler was healthy, they would be going forward with Jacoby. Which is, which is wild. It's a big decision.

[Pat McAfee]

But, oh, Burns and Gambo are on it though.

[Darius Butler]

Okay, they're on it. I mean, once I saw Rap, she put a stamp in and I said, all right, it got to be real. What's that?

[Pat McAfee]

Burns and Gambo are his peers.

[AQ Shipley]

Those are my co workers.

[Pat McAfee]

Good quote there debut from Burns and Gambo that we certainly appreciate.

[Darius Butler]

I mean that, that, that's huge. So it is a. I mean it's a real benching at this point. Now you still want him to get healthy, but you are going forward with Jacobi and he's proved it. Get your opportunity, take full advantage of it. You can't lose the locker room by saying, hey, we're going with this guy because he's making 40 more million dollars because we're fighting. This is a, this is a good football team. You know, it's a good football team.

[Pat McAfee]

Even last year, remember, they didn't win a lot of games, but it's like defense is going to be stubborn. Yep, defense is going to be stubborn. And they were going to fight and fight and fight. It was like a lot of close games. Close games, close games. Then this year, close games, close games, games. It's like they're not as ass as their record has looked. Just like the Colts, kind of. The Colts were a team that was much better team than what, like didn't make the playoffs last few years. Colts were a much better team than what their record showed. I think Arizona kind of the same now. Their record is still ass though.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

I mean it is.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean still an ass cheeks.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Record right now, if you look at that. But a lot of football left to maybe go on a run.

[AQ Shipley]

They have a long way to climb. There's really no room for error moving forward. But they're doing it differently than they have in the years past because they're run game coordinator went to Dallas this off season. They relied solely on the run the last couple of years, 13 personnel. They ran the heck out of the ball. Now all of a sudden they're becoming a passing team. They're doing a ton of play action. They're pushing the ball down the field. Jacoby.

[Pat McAfee]

Jacoby might be a sleeper fantasy pick. He might be and trade for Jacoby. Sounds like they're going to be throwing the ball a lot. Marvin Harrison Jr. Said whenever he was told that he was going to be a focal point in the Dallas Cowboys plan He was excited about that. And then I saw somebody tweet, he goes, yeah, the guy should be a focal point. Yeah, maybe we should be focused every week. Maybe we should do that. But nonetheless, Arizona Cardinals make a massive what's next for Kyler? You know, the natural instinct for, you know, football fans, especially whenever Tyler has as much talent in his pinky as, you know, some people have in their entire bodies. And we're talking about a super athlete here. This guy, unbelievable. We've obviously seen the highlights on football fields where he runs for three miles and he's out running everybody. We've seen him full speed run and have a perfect throw. We've seen him be able to do things on a football field that are very special athletically. But he's also top 10 draft pick in MLB. Okay, like also top 10 draft pick in MLB. How old is he?

[Ty Schmidt]

Can't be that old, like 27, I think.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so now the question is if this is from Burns and Gambo, you know, and they know, what's the station?

[AQ Shipley]

98.7 Arizona Sports.

[Boston Connor]

Nice.

[AQ Shipley]

Nailed it.

[Pat McAfee]

Your Pierce.

[Boston Connor]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

But what's next for Kyler? You assume that maybe another team will say, hey, if we get him in our building, he'll be able to be unbelievable. But is there a little bit of Kyler that's maybe thinking, hey, I could see that curveball. I could see that curveball. And he's still young enough. He's still young enough to potentially be able to do that. How impossible would that be in that conversation and how realistic? Probably not that much because other teams will want him. But we're talking about a freak athlete here whenever we're chit chatting about Kyler. And I think that gets forgotten about with all the other stuff. Yeah, I mean, video game stuff, pause in the contract stuff, and then this stuff and that stuff. It's like, hey, we're talking about a special elite athlete that has ever been one of one top 10 in both football and MLB. So I think that kind of gets lost in a conversation of all this.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I mean, I don't think he. He hasn't played baseball in like six years. And who knows how much, you know, he's like going to the batting cages because I'm sure he can still do that kind of stuff, like pretty easily. But the big thing is like, like he hasn't played in six years, so it's not like he's going to be able to. Let's say he's done with football. He's not going to Go sign with, like, the Red Sox and then be on their opening day.

[Pat McAfee]

I see Russell Wilson training. I see Russ. Russell Wilson comes jogging out. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

He goes to spring training. He gets two at bats. He strikes out. He looks like an idiot against, like a guy who has been playing baseball. It hasn't just taken six years off.

[Pat McAfee]

I hope Russell Wilson tweets you right now.

[Ty Schmidt]

I hope he does too. That'd be awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it would be awesome.

[Ty Schmidt]

That would be awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, this guy can't hit a curveball either. And what if Russell Wilson says to you in response during a tweet, says, I'd take you, you yard 10 times. Oh, just straight. Why don't you pitch against Russell Wilson?

[Ty Schmidt]

I would love to. And I would hope Russell Wilson would take me yard 10 times because he's a Super bowl winning quarterback. He's an unbelievable athlete. He's also got drafted to play in.

[Pat McAfee]

But how sick would that be if you struck his ass out?

[Ty Schmidt]

That'd be pretty sick. You know what, Yeah, I was gonna say, you know, he's never seen my knuckle curveball. So, like, we'll just, we'll say that. But the big thing about Kyler is you make $200 million.

[Peter Schrager]

Like.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like, if you had made $200 million, do you want to go back down and play single A, double A and be on buses with guys like, that's never going to happen ever.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that what he has to do?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, there's just. There's no, there's no way that. I mean, I, I suppose he could get invited to, like a team, spring training. And then all of a sudden it's like, he's batting.500, he hits a bunch of homers. But there's just no, like, over the.

[Pat McAfee]

Course of walking into spring training, haven't played in six years. How do you do steps in there? Bomb.

[Ty Schmidt]

But it'd also be a thing like, you know, with T. Like the. You know how much every one of those guys is relishing. Like, you know, I'm gonna strike this out. Like, this guy thinks he can just come in. Yeah. No, but, but that's what I'm saying. It's completely different. Obviously Tebow, like, these guys knew that was kind of more of a publicity stunt. Like, yeah, he had played baseball before, but like Kyler, you know, I mean.

[Boston Connor]

He couldn't catch a fun.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, pop ups bouncing off his head.

[Pat McAfee]

Somebody that played Frontier league base alongside Michael Jordan as well. I would say what I was doing, little bit of a publicity stunt. A little bit of A publicity. I had a microphone mic up, have a conversation. Maybe a little ahead of our time. Yeah. You know, now that you look at that entire thing that was. Tim Tebow was on these buses driving time to time.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't think he was doing it as I think he was trying to make it in MLB like I think he was.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, I agree. He absolutely was. Do you think personality wise, how similar do you think Tim Tebow and Kyler Murray are?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, so what if Kyler. Okay, so let's get rid of all the bus taken.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

In a single way.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's a pretty big part of it though.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's get rid of it. Okay.

[J.J. Watt]

All right.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's get rid of it. It's out of the way.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay. All right.

[Pat McAfee]

Now we're.

[Ty Schmidt]

Every game is in his backyard.

[Pat McAfee]

Bingo.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Traveling him.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's got the money. We're buying the tickets.

[Ty Schmidt]

Exactly. Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's move double A out of there too. Let's say it goes in AAA. Okay. Like they did with Mr. Skeens. Okay. He comes in AAA. Maybe here. Indianapolis maybe would be great to have him. Oh, not a chance that they would just drop him into AAA because he's a 28 year old who might be no special.

[Ty Schmidt]

There's a chance because I assume with a guy like that, like you said, like he is one of one like and it, it could be like riding a bike. But I, I mean just, it's a lot. It's obviously very difficult. Like all these guys talk about how hard it is to hit a baseball and I'm assuming that like if you need to be, if you're going to be an NFL quarterback, like there can't be any like he is all NFL. He hasn't probably thought about baseball.

[Pat McAfee]

That's not what I heard potentially.

[Ty Schmidt]

Really?

[Pat McAfee]

I've heard that maybe, maybe there is back the ball in some of the workouts in the offseason.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay. So if that's the case, like. Yeah, I mean I, I again he.

[Pat McAfee]

I would like to know. We are not telling you you should quit football. Okay. I'm not telling you that. But I'm saying if an opportunity presents itself for you to be one of the first of all time to do something. I wonder if that is something that kind of spurs motivation, inspiration to maybe go and get it. Or another NFL team would say, hey yeah, you get in our building, you'll be imagine him with Kevin O'. Connell. Not that he will because JJ McCarthy is definitely going to be a guy. But you start thinking about like an Offensive gurus like that, if McDaniel got, you know, with Caleb Williams, would they be able to time something up and be able to come in efficient offense, especially because he has an absolute hose now. Can he break down a defense? Will he spend all that type of stuff is the whole conversation. But we're talking about a special talent. We need to never forget that NBA.

[Darius Butler]

BA Obviously he's not coaching now, but you would think a lot of coaches probably still think like him. Especially offensive minded coach like, like BA definitely was not out on him. He's still, hey, Kyler can still be a guy. There's still a lot of tread on his tire and he's 20 something years old. We talk about the freak athlete that he is. He has the arm, talent. We've seen quarterbacks go to different systems and different coaches and you know, personality and all that stuff matters as well. But you know, still, I think, I think we'll obviously see Kyler Murray on the football field. But I mean, look, I, I, I would love it.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't want to, I don't want to see him dying single A. Tyler, you're representing the NFL.

[Darius Butler]

MJ did it, right? Where did he go? Where was the Baron?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Birmingham Barons. I. Double A.

[Darius Butler]

Okay. I mean, you know, MJ ain't too.

[Pat McAfee]

Much of now, but well, back then also there's no Internet. There was no Call of Duty. I don't think there was no really anything else to do, you know, so MJ had to do, always did, didn't he? He was good at all of it. How about his like legendary golf story? Playing 36 holes before like a game four or whatever.

[Boston Connor]

Game three, scoring 50.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. I played 36 holes with this guy. He's playing tonight. It's a playoff game. Drops 32 winks at me as he's going out. It's unbelievable. Guy different. Couldn't even imagine him in the modern world, you know, with all the content that is happening. Imagine him on a golf course day of a playoff game. Imagine if they caught Tyrese's big ass on the day of a playoff game. He would get absolutely a eviscerated. Joining us now is Amanda. Might have a little bit more information on all the moves that we saw yesterday. He's an insider everywhere, has friends literally in every single building. Now he's with espn. Formerly Emmy award winner at NFL Network. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager. How you doing, brother? We're talking about Kyler Murray. Any thoughts on that entire situation over there?

[Peter Schrager]

I'll tell you this I was there Monday for that Monday Night Football game and I'm walking around the field before the game and I'm, you know, talking to everyone, doing my thing, kind of kissing babies, shaking hands, whatever. And everybody in Arizona, you know, was talking about Jacoby Brissette and, and how good he had been the last five weeks and what a shame it was that he wasn't able to get the victory. And they had three walk off field goals. And the elephant in the room is there's Kyler Murray standing there. He's dressed in a Dallas Stars jersey, look great. And he's there on the sidelines and he was nine and oh, in his life going back to high school, college and the pros in that building. And he was just a complete non factor in this game because he was out with the injury. But the juice around Jacoby was so real that I came away from this one thinking, like, I don't know if they're just pumping him up or not, but like, there's maybe a future with Jacoby Brissette as the guy there. The problem is Kyler's contract. The next three years, it's over like $100 million in dead cap cap space. So what do you do with that? But in a post Russell Wilson era where teams just say rip the band aid off, that that might be the move, I, I'll say this. They are still paying Cliff Kingsbury his full salary. They are still paying Steve Keim his full salary. Those guys are from a different era. Those are the guys who brought Kyler in. These new guys, Gannon and Monty Austin for and his crew, they didn't draft Kyler, they didn't sign him to that extension. And if you go to the owner and say, hey, we tried it for two years, we're going to move on, we got to take a financial hit. We'll figure it out. They might be more open to it than if they were the guys who actually drafted him.

[Pat McAfee]

That's crazy. Yeah. Anytime you got new GM or new coach, new power, you have new allegiances and new loyalties and new visions. You know how you see a team being is not necessarily the team that you've inherited. Whenever you're in charge and I experienced it, you know, we got a new gm and I was literally told during the negotiation process that there is no loyalty between us. And it was like, really? Wow. Yeah, I was literally told that piece of information. It was like, oh, okay, sounds good. So I'm gone, I guess. And then Jim Ursay says, no, you're Franchise tag, brother. You're not going anywhere for at least a year. We're going to figure this shit out. And I was very thankful for Jim for that. But there was certainly a time where new GM came in and I was not a good punter. But I'm low ban on totem point and I'm being told that couldn't even imagine whenever it's 20% of your salary cap, 22% of your salary cap, as you're trying to build this team up, it takes a lot of courage to make that decision. On that note, the Big three here in Indianapolis sign off on a massive trade to get Sauce Gardner to the Indianapolis Colts. He'll be wearing the number one, obviously two ones and A.D. mitchell go to the Jets. Everybody that knows Sauce has said, man, awesome dude, awesome in the locker room, awesome player. You're going to love him. Fans and some other people say the jets are getting two firsts and AD Mitchell for just Sauce Gardner. What is your take on how this trade played out? And I don't want to say winners or losers, but just maybe your takeaway from it all.

[Peter Schrager]

I loved it for both sides. Indianapolis first that you like? That was a little Indianapolis first. This is a team that looked at their roster and said, okay, we're not this young squad of just first and second year players like DeForest Buckner is a veteran and Quinton Nelson is a veteran and Kenny Moore and those guys deserve us to go all in at their ages and what they have done for the first half of this season to go all in and make this move, I'll tell you, speaking to sources around the league and with both these teams. Chris Ballard has been calling around the league for a move over the last several weeks. Sauce Gardner's name was not mentioned, but he had been calling the jets about players on their team because they were obviously in a fire sale mode. About 48 hours ago, Sauce's name came up and the jets were not looking to trade Sauce Gardner. Remember the same first year GM who just traded him Darren Mujee, signed him to a four year, $120 million extension in July. And this is his first year, his first massive move on the offensive side of the ball. But when that deal came in, it was almost described as like a Godfather deal that they offered that they could not say no. So I like it from the Colts side because Ballard looks at it and says, all right, right, We've got a veteran team, they're all healthy, we're playing good ball, we've got a crazy Tough stretch coming in the next four weeks. We need to stay on the ball. This guy makes us that much better in an area of weakness. And from the jets, part of it. They just got what essentially the Cowboys got for Micah Parsons, for Sauce Gardner, who's got 18 career wins in four years there. So they weren't going anywhere. They haven't won with Sauce and Quinn, and they were like, like, crap. We can't say no to that. And to Ballard, like, all chips on the table. Here we go. Like, we're all in on this team.

[Pat McAfee]

Big swing. And if Sauce is the one that lifts this defense to, you know, to a place where we can win a Super bowl, who cares about.

[Peter Schrager]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

BA said yesterday, whenever we got Gronk, the fourth round came around, we didn't have our pick, and we all just looked at our ring. Oh, there's our fourth round. There's our fourth round right there. That's pretty nice. And we move along. First round, obviously different than a fourth rounder, but if this works out and we win, nobody will say a damn thing about anything else.

[Peter Schrager]

I love it. You're right. And it's the same thing that talking to McVay and Snead over the years when the Von Miller deal happened. Now people always talk about that team and it's FM picks, and they got Ramsey and they got Odell and all this stuff. Von Miller was the move. At the trade deadline, they called Denver every day for about two weeks. And then finally the last day, they were just banging on it so hard that Denver said, fine, take Von Miller here. We'll get the exchange. That's what this was. And I came on your show last week, week, and I said, don't read all the stuff online. Don't listen to the thing. There's going to be a big name. But those names don't even become evident until the day of. I said that on this very show. I said, don't read. Like, don't get fixated on the names that everyone else is talking about. There's going to be a big name that goes the day of. And that was Sauce Gardner, because I will tell you, Sauce had no idea he was being traded. Other teams around the league were texting me, being like, did you know he was up for sale? Like, he wasn't up for sale unless you offer two picks and a wide receiver that they can use on their team today.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that the Colts are that aggressive. They're going be judged for it going forward. And I think our team is in a good Spot. Lou Anarumo told us he's happy, he's pumped up. Love the addition. He, you know, it elevates the entire defense, what he just did for the team. He just. Lou Anarumo is so excited. Think about where Lou was and what was going on. Okay. Losing all his players. We're not paying. Yeah, right. Defense, stupid. Nobody's paying tickets. Nobody's buying shirts. We're selling jerseys on offense. We're not selling jerseys on defense. We're not paying any of your guys on defense. Lou's like, well, what am I supposed to do here?

[Ty Schmidt]

Figure it out.

[Pat McAfee]

He loses. They said, get the hell out of town. Chris Ballard, he's left second immediately. Excuse me. You're available right now? Yeah. We would love to have you. And guess what we're going to do. We're going to sign three guys this off season on defensive side. And then right before trade deadline also, we're going to give you a guy, another lockdown guy. It's like Lu Anarumo sitting in a place that I assume he would. Any defense coordinator would love to be in team, clearly investing on the defensive side of the ball while assuming that the offense is already figured out. If this works, that's great. Now, on the flip side of that, this New York jets team seemingly sending a message. You said fire sale. Go ahead, Debo.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, absolutely. Fire sale. Just a full rebuild. Get letting go of these young phenomenal players that you already paid. Like, what's the. How does it. What's the vibe around Aaron Glenn? Do you feel like they'll be patient with Aaron Glenn and actually let him build? You would assume they're going to use this draft capital and go get a quarterback, kind of start that new chapter. But we've seen the jets do this time and time again since probably Rex Ryan's departure. So what's your thoughts with Aaron Glenn and the patience level with.

[Peter Schrager]

You have to try to separate the history of this team, which has been plagued with quarterback selections in the top five that haven't panned out and have had success elsewhere and where they're hoping to go. I will tell you this. A lot of the organization was at the mangled services yesterday and they purposely held any news of these trades until afterwards. And Darren Muji was like, I'm well aware of what's going on right now. This morning during this. I'm not going to try to make a headline here. However, the night before, these deals were pretty much done and put to bed and they felt comfortable because now gives them the Flexibility to do what they want with a quarterback. We know that this isn't going to be the quarterback draft class of 04 or even 20, 23 or one of these groups where it was coming out like, hey, there are six guys. In fact, every week it seemingly changes who's the guy. So what this does is having five first or second round picks in the next two years. It gives you a little wiggle room. Do you want to trade up to get 1 in 26? Do you want to stay patent get 1 in 26, do you want to save that for 27, use those picks to maybe get 1? Or do you want to package them and get a veteran quarterback in a monster trade because he's now got five first or second round picks. This didn't exist before yesterday. They didn't have this flexibility. They have this flexibility now. And before we say, well the jets are going to screw it up, let's give them a little grace. Darren Moshe's actually have a pretty good draft. If you look at those rookies on that roster right now, they're playing pretty well in the offensive line, which was what the focus was, has been really good.

[A.J. Hawk]

So.

[Peter Schrager]

So let's see about it. Let's give him a little grace, let's give him a little patience. But you can't hold regimes of the past and the failures of Zach Wilson and the failures of all the different quarterbacks that have come through here. You can't put that on Darren Muji and Aaron Glenn just yet.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, they paid Justin Fields 20 million a year. Now obviously that is who they thought was going to be their quarterback. Maybe he will be. I mean, who knows how the rest of the season goes and maybe they will save it for 2027. That's an interesting thing. You say you can't hold the regimes of the past past or the current regime. Kind of their feet to the fire for the past regimes. Jets fans are, oh yeah, jets fans are just like, yep, that's what we thought. We'll trade away all our young good players to try to find other good young players and then that'll work because we hit on these guys. These guys are really good. Look, other teams are willing to give up two first rounders and a wide receiver to get this guy. No doubt. That's the thing.

[Peter Schrager]

Those guys, that 2022 draft that Joe Douglas and Salah did, guys, them, you know, obviously you know Garrett Wilson, who is the offensive rookie of the year and is a solid receiver. Sauce Gardner, who just went for two first round picks. Jermaine Johnson, who's an outstanding pass rusher, and Breece Hall. You're looking at those four names and you're like, gosh, they all panned out. And guess what? Even with all those guys, they stink.

[Pat McAfee]

Even with all.

[Peter Schrager]

Quarterback matters. And it's becoming more and more evident every single day. And whether it's the A, it's nature versus nurture. And, like, look, Sam Darnold's awesome on Seattle. He wasn't great with the jets. And Zach Wilson might have a fine NFL career. Didn't work with the Jets. You have to keep swinging the bat. You have to keep trying. But all those other players, those guys drafted pretty well. It doesn't matter if you don't have a quarterback. And that's where they're at right now.

[Pat McAfee]

They kicked Aaron Rodgers out of the building. He's having an okay year for the Pittsburgh Steelers. They outpaid everybody for Justin Field. Sam Darnold was available, from what we're understanding. So I'm not saying, like, hey, let's make sure we give this current regime a chance here, but, like, they're the ones that brought in Justin Fields, and it's not working. Right. Aaron Glenn's the one that kicked Aaron out of the office immediately upon walking in after he flew four and a half hours over there. So it's like they've made a couple of decisions here early.

[Ty Schmidt]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

We've seen them already, and now they're halfway through their first year and saying, next year is our first year.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Next year is our first year. Next year is our team. I would like to wish Aaron Glenn, who I am a fan, fan of good luck in this entire venture. But if you're a Jets fan, I'm sorry, man. I am. I'm sorry, because one of the most entertaining guys in the entire NFL. Now gone. Go ahead, Ty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Poor kid.

[Pat McAfee]

Kid crying.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Get another two.

[Pat McAfee]

That's the first time he. He's experienced what life is as a Jets fan.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, he said in it, too, I don't want to be a Jets fan anymore.

[Pat McAfee]

Pointed it out.

[Ty Schmidt]

Don't worry, I'll buy you a new jersey.

[Boston Connor]

That's it.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's wearing a Quinn and Williams jersey in the cliff.

[Peter Schrager]

It's like you can't even make it up.

[Ty Schmidt]

Exactly. Speaking of Quinn and Williams, Shreg, I. I guess maybe that wasn't a shocker to some people, but you said that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You said it wasn't a shot.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly. But what was kind of the idea around that whole thing? I Saw a lot of people, Dallas fans in particular, kind of pissed off because it was kind of like, hey, we, we gave up everything we got in the Micah Parsons trade to get Quinn and Williams and especially given what their record is and all that kind of stuff. How did this come to be? And does, does this kind of like are the Cowboys, do they just flip their defense? Are they all the way back now all of a sudden, sudden after getting Quinn and Williams and Logan Wilson?

[Peter Schrager]

No, they're, they're improved though, because of these guys. You look at the, the four names, Kenny Clark, these two, obviously Logan Wilson is a good linebacker as much as people have been rolling their eyes because that was not some slam dunk, like, you know, headline grabbing move. And we thought we were getting one. Quinn's legit. And then you overshone comes back. So now you have four guys. At least you can say they're going to not be run all over by Bam Knight and D. Markado next time the Cardinals come in on a Monday night. You know this, this fact of this is, is like they're 3, 5 and 1 and I don't know if this team is going to the playoffs and I don't necessarily think they are. They do have a rest of the season to play out. And in those games, they've got a primetime game against the Raiders on Monday Night Football. They got a Sunday night game against the Lions, they got a Thanksgiving Day game against the Chiefs. They've got a four o' clock window with Brady and Burkhart doing the Eagles game. They've got a Christmas Day game on Netflix that we're going to have to do flips over where they play the Commanders. So they're going to be on TV a bunch in your face. And I think honestly at the end of the day Jerry was, was like we have to stop the bleeding. He already put it out there saying earlier in the day he had a trade in his back pocket and like he was hot to make a trade. I think Jerry was hot to make a trade. And I will tell you, talking to the people around the league, there wasn't an offer as good as this. And when it's out of division and out of conference and it's a 28 year old guy that like we like, but I don't necessarily think we're winning because of. And his career record with the jets was 31 and 67. Like, I think it's okay. We can.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, I can that you're spinning here the sauce. Gardner won 18 games. It's like sauce Gardner won 18 games. That is. That's a wild thing. It's a hole. That's a wild. Yeah, but that's what you just said, though. Like, that is. I understand. The narrative is we have them on our team now that we see we can't win. So we have them. Not on our team, not them.

[Peter Schrager]

They were the reason they won any of those games. That's the problem. And it's like, well, that's why you.

[Pat McAfee]

Were trying to get young guys that are good is the entirety of. Of like what you're doing in the draft. And it's like, I guess they already paid these guys, so they're not considered young anymore. You know, I guess because they're already taking up so much of the salary cap. But just being able to replace greatness, I mean. All right, good luck. Good luck. We are excited about it. Now on the flip side, if I was building a team or in my first couple years or first year with the team and I was offered five first round picks over the next two years to build this team up in my kind of view and vision, I would certainly say yes to that as well. And now, Grant, granted, would I say we 18 wins this corner 18 times. Yeah, 18 times we got to say, yeah, that was fun. This guy. Yeah. I mean, that's just. But I understand the narrative is there's.

[Peter Schrager]

More of the collective. We've had these great young players. We suck.

[Pat McAfee]

So let's get some new great young players. Maybe we won't suck. Yeah, let's at least give it a go.

[Darius Butler]

Gotta get a quarterback.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so jets fans should be excited. Excited jets fans pumped.

[Ty Schmidt]

Like five years from now, like five, six years from now. You could be super excited.

[Pat McAfee]

No, the jets are actually going all in on the future. So the future should be bright now. The future's not right now, okay? We got nine more weeks.

[Ty Schmidt]

Right?

[Pat McAfee]

And you know this thing is going to happen.

[Ty Schmidt]

You know what I did see as well is they traded, you know, kind of a bunch of like stalwarts franchise players and then hit them immediately after with, boom, we're raising ticket prices next year.

[AQ Shipley]

No.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

They did it.

[Darius Butler]

I wouldn't do that.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that why J, E T S J, J, J? Is that what? Fireman Ed's pissed?

[Ty Schmidt]

Probably.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, did anybody. Do we have a health and wellness check? Is he pissed on Fireman Ed?

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, he's gotta be.

[Pat McAfee]

He's gotta be so upset.

[Boston Connor]

Dude, I think he's pretty pumped to retire for the fourth time.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[AP Tone]

He might be on another golf trip.

[Pat McAfee]

Fireman Ed ran towards fires, not away from him. He's allowed to go golf whenever the.

[Ty Schmidt]

Hell he did, and he left early to get there in time.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you talking about?

[Ty Schmidt]

His golf trip?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, it's the boys. You want him to show up.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's what I'm saying. He said he left. I left the golf trip early.

[Darius Butler]

That's a big deal.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, it certainly is. The end of it, too, probably.

[Darius Butler]

Sweet golf trip.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, my God. If.

[Ty Schmidt]

Imagine how we got every deep box. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Every time.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Every before. Every shot.

[Pat McAfee]

We're at the halfway house.

[Peter Schrager]

Do it again.

[Pat McAfee]

Run it.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

They walk into the halfway house, there's like, a little snack in there. Two people accidentally in there at the same time. You want to see it? Yeah. You do? Hey, Ed, we love you, man. Sorry you've been battling so far. That's a good bit. That is a good bit. We got a lot of good stuff going there. Okay, let's talk a little bit about yesterday. AQ Shipley has a question for you.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, Obviously, we keep talking about all of the trades that did get done. What was the closest deal yesterday that didn't get done?

[Peter Schrager]

Oh, I was surprised, aq, that. That there wasn't a fire sale in New Orleans. Now, I know they gave away Penning and they also traded Rashid Shahid, but to me, I thought all those veterans, those guys, Demario Davis, Cam Jordan, Taysom Hill, Alvin Kamara, all those guys could be up for sale because that team's going nowhere either.

[J.J. Watt]

And.

[Peter Schrager]

And yet they held on to those guys even after a terrible loss to the Rams. So those guys will finish the year. And if I was thinking as a Saints fan, maybe, like, the philosophy the jets had where it's, hey, we're not going anywhere. We got a bunch of veterans. Let's unload them. Because there was interest in all those guys, but they didn't make those deals. The other name was. That was being tossed around a lot was Breece Hall. And the jets didn't trade him. That was more of like a, hey, that's our best offensive player this year. We're actually in on Breeze hall, and if he goes somewhere else in free agency, we'll get a compensatory pick that might be better than the value of what we were getting offered for him. So it's. It was. I was looking at the teams that were obviously sellers, and some guys weren't sold, and it was just like, well, the juice wasn't worth the squeeze to get rid of them for, like, a fifth or sixth Round draft pick.

[Pat McAfee]

I like, whenever, you know, is this good business for both of us comes to play, you know, at the very final hour, you know, whenever we're right up against it, are we going to do this or we not? It's like, well, I don't think we're getting good. You, you know, and you kind of back out of those deals. Always chirping, always chatting. That's why when these big ones. Ones happen, the amount of courage it takes to get that final because, you know, Schefter was reporting yesterday about how the deal's not done. The deal's not done. Quinn Williams and Dallas Cowboys. He goes, we're close. It's like, that's sometimes the hardest. You know, when you're in goal line. Pre tush push days when you're in goal line, those are the hardest things to get. Negotiations and contracts can be that way as well. So to get to that point and then actually make it happen is a huge deal. So if your team's a buyer at all, like, we are, so many people probably said, probably not, probably not, probably not, probably not, probably not. So for your team to say, yes, let's go for it. That's why tread deadline day is so beautiful. It's like, okay, now we know in the building they're going now. Now we know that they view it the same way we do. You know what I mean, Shregs?

[Peter Schrager]

Yeah. And it's. And it's become different. It wasn't this way five, ten years ago. It was more incentive to just keep your guys and just ride it out. But I kind of loved yesterday because teams were taking swings and other teams were being honest with themselves and looking in the mirror and saying, you know, the jets case, like, what are. We're not winning with this. So the other part of that, like, Dallas deal, there was other teams that were calling about Quinn and. But when you start saying, like, the particulars of, like, all right, we're going to get the better of your two picks. When it's the Dallas pick or the Green Bay pick because of Micah Parsons, and you're going to give us the better of your two picks, that's the nitty gritty. That's the stuff that usually holds deals up. But both sides were motivated enough to get it done, and Jerry bent on that one. And now the better pick between the packers and the Cowboys will be going to the Jets.

[Pat McAfee]

Jerry Jones threw the snowball straight up in the sky. Here's Logan Wilson. Wilson, I told you I got a trade coming in My back pocket. And then Quinn and Williams, right. Afternoon, bang. Dallas Cowboys. I always stir some shit up. I told you literally yesterday. Didn't I just say this? I will stir up. And I certainly did. Everybody's talking about Sauce Gardner. Sauce Gardner, that's cute. Dallas Cowboys just loaded up on defensive line. Everybody said I'm big dumb dipshit. We'll see how it all works out for him. Now with the things you were talking about, the particulars, first rounder, second rounder, players being moved as well in both cases. Connor has a question for you.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, Trace Piggyback off of AQ a little bit. Once those bigger trades, you know, went down, did trades like Jalen Waddle and Trey Hendrickson and Bradley Chubb, did those just become too pricey? Like, did they have a certain, you know, pick? I know Waddle was allegedly fetching one first round pick, but once Sauce goes for two and a player, did those prices get bumped up? And is that why some things didn't happen?

[Peter Schrager]

I think so. And I give credit to Champ Kelly, who's the interim GM down in Miami. Chris Greer gets fired, you're handed this plate, and it's basically like, well, I have no incentive to, to not do anything. I'm an interim gm. I want to make moves. I want to show the owner. And the value just wasn't there for them. Jalen Waddle was too good for what they were being offered. And then in the case of Bradley Chubb, you'd think that would be a very movable piece. They probably just didn't get what they thought was, was worth a player who could still be a good pass rusher for the rest of the season. So Jalen Phillips goes third round pick. That sounds about right. Especially a guy in the final year of his contract. And then the other two is like, no, we're not going to trade them 20 cents on the dollar just to do it. Which I appreciate.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I do too. But some of these trades that end up happening for really good, mind blowing. Randy Moss one for what? Fourth.

[Darius Butler]

Fourth, I believe.

[Peter Schrager]

Fourth rounder. And Napoleon Harris, I believe, was the player.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Napoleon was a dog. They used to talk about him. You fear Napoleon. This guy, a lot of spite favored in New England. Oh, really?

[Boston Connor]

Oh, yeah. Everyone honestly was the first Napoleon they accepted in New England.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it was like a full complex. It was a full complex they put together for him. All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, Shregs. You're the man. Oh, I love it.

[Peter Schrager]

You guys are the best. Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Peter Schrager. Yeah, they didn't think they got a waddle. Man was a good player. Yeah, put the tape on. Also got a sick celebration here. Sell shirts. That's a whole. Another business that we don't even talk about. That got to be at least worth a second there, don't you think? Maybe third. How about whenever Sauce goes for two ones, all of a sudden, everybody at trade deadlines like, oh, I didn't know we're giving up that.

[Darius Butler]

I didn't know that was a thing.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't know we're giving up ones at the trade deadline.

[AQ Shipley]

It.

[Pat McAfee]

It did kind of come out of nowhere.

[Darius Butler]

We were shot. We're like, oh, we got off.

[Pat McAfee]

Wait, Cam Little.

[Darius Butler]

Two first round picks.

[Pat McAfee]

Two first round picks.

[Ty Schmidt]

These guys were yelling in the back.

[Pat McAfee]

Screaming, yeah, the Cam Little interview is running. Okay, shout out to Cam Little. His interview ran three times yesterday. First time ever that anybody's conversation has run three times in the same show. Now in entirety one time, but, you know, it got cut off both times. We were trying to chit chat with a guy who just broke the longest field goal in NFL history record this weekend at 68 yards. That thing's running. All of a sudden, in the back, all you hear is, yo, yo, people are going to the bathroom. People are doing the whole thing. Got it. Let's go. And then pops up on screen. Sauce Gardeners come to the Indianapolis Colts. Oh, my God. This real AI. Got to be AI. Nope, we're back. It's real. Okay. We're celebrating. Holy hell, the Colts are all in. Colts race is awesome. The big three, of course, we knew that. They knew we didn't do it. Goes for two. First round. Two. Two, two, two. Two first rounds. Hold the phone. I didn't know. We give up two first rounds at trade deadline. And then BA Is like, who cares? Who cares? You got Sauce Gardner.

[J.J. Watt]

That's the right.

[Pat McAfee]

Real thought. Is your team good for right now? That's what trade deadline is for right now. This season, now, when people want to judge it, they're talking about the future. What's the future look like? What's the future look like? The New York jets get an A for that because what the future is going to look like with who they're going to draft, it's like, well, all the Colts care about right now. That is this year. That. That is what that pick is for. Now, granted, we got Sauce for multiple years. You just signed that deal, which is great, but this trade deadline move, especially if You're a buyer. It's like this piece. Piece sends us this year to where we want to go. You never know when your year is going to be your year. This Colts team's thought they've been good for the last couple years. They're in the middle of it. Like, wait a minute, we've been building for this moment. Why would we not go for it? They go for it and we make the biggest play trade deadline. It's a beautiful thing.

[Darius Butler]

Absolutely. This is definitely for this year, but also for this window going forward, I guess this Daniel Jones window. Because this lets you know, like, hey, we believe in the court quarterback. We're probably going to lock him up long term. He's going to be driving the ship. You got sauce now for multiple years. You got Ward on the other side of him for multiple years. You got Cam Bynum for multiple years. Kenny Moore, he's one of the highest paid nickelbacks in the league. So you have one of the best secondaries, definitely on paper, and that should help those guys up front, you know, be able to get home, too. We don't necessarily have that elite closer up front, but when you have multiple coverage guys in the back end, that definitely helps the guys up front.

[Pat McAfee]

I think what we're seeing from the Big Three is if we win, that's how the business grows. You know, some people that get maybe handed a team or kind of next generation of team are worried about literally just dollars. Okay, because this is the family business, just worried about dollars in this entire thing. But we've never really understood that because like any business, if you make a good business, that will make it more profitable. Look at the New England Patriots before Bill Belichick got there. Then you win for 20 years. Look at the valuation of the New England Patriots win. Like, when you win, the business goes up. So this is just like with the Pittsburgh Pirates ownership, where we go like, hey, if you were to actually put your money into the team, what might happen? Think about this. Your bottom line might be more because you're better and you're getting bigger deals and you're on more tv, more. Everything can happen. I appreciate that the Big Three, seemingly, with this move and with everything else that has happened this season with the moves and signings, they're like, yeah, we would like to. I think Carly or say in her opening press conference said, we want to be the greatest. We don't want wins will happen. If we're the great, however, we can make this team the greatest is what we want to do. And it's like, they're living up to that right now. Yeah. And that's a sick precedent. I don't think they're going to be crazy, like, every single. They're not going to be like, Carmine over there, like, hey, we're known for doing this stuff. But I think they're very much like, yeah, we want to have good. We want to win. When we win, we live through the Peyton Manning era with the Indianapolis Colts. When we win, life is. And they will be just super bowl everything. You're everywhere. And they will be judged on this particular move.

[Darius Butler]

It's a big swing. Whenever you. Whenever you're sending that PJ out for, For. For somebody that you sign, whether it be a free agent, somebody you draft, whenever you send that bird out, that's going to be one of the signings, one of the moves that you will be judged for going forward. So I love them taking this swing while the offense is on kind of their historical run right now. Obviously, you hit a road bump against the Steelers last week, but with Daniel Jones, with Jonathan Taylor, the old line, and then these receivers around Daniel Jones, I feel like they're having career years, too. And it's almost like just scratching the surface of when they're going on that side of the ball. So for them to make the investment defensively, I mean, that's all you can ask for.

[Pat McAfee]

Is a fan going to have to pay? Danny Dimes and Jonathan Taylor. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who's no stranger to football greatness. He is a Pro Football Football hall of Famer. His name is mentioned anytime you talk about the greatest wide receivers in the history of the NFL, a man who was unguardable just anytime he was on a football field, including whenever he was at Georgia Tech, the only way that you'd be able to stop him is if they stopped throwing him the ball, which they did in the Gator bowl second half against West Virginia. And we win that game. Ladies and gentlemen, for our friends at Real Truck, an aftermarket pro product and accessory brand for truck Jeep and SUV owners, they are announcing their opening of its flagship retail store in Rochester Mills, Michigan. Okay, if you got a truck, you check out Real Truck, and you make that truck the best truck possible. Ladies and gentlemen, Detroit Lions legend, superhuman Calvin Johnson.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, Calvin.

[Pat McAfee]

How you doing, dude?

[A.J. Hawk]

What up, guys?

[J.J. Watt]

What up?

[A.J. Hawk]

What up? It's good to see you, Pat.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, great to see you, too. Obviously, we're big fans of yours. We saw you probably Football hall of Fame weekend. Kept it moving. Nice to See, you get celebrated every year amongst your peers as you should. Tell me about Real Truck, because I know, okay, I think you did some well to save the world at one point. I think you got into some, maybe some greenery business at one point. Now, obviously, teaming up with Real Truck here for the announcement of their November 13th retail store opening up there in Rochester Mills, Michigan. Like, how are you? So. So the depth of businesses that you've been a part of, I want to let you know, almost as historic as your playing career. How did we get tied up with Real Truck and what do we need to know about him?

[J.J. Watt]

N. Awesome.

[A.J. Hawk]

Appreciate that. No, with Real Truck, man, they just saw what I was doing in the community, man. Just really trying to help these young student athletes, you know, just trying to help them in their, you know, path to, you know, through college and onto their careers. Just trying to give them a boost, whether it's finance through mentorship or whatever way we can. And, you know, they kind of, you know, they had synergy with our mission and what we're trying to accomplish through our foundation. And, you know, with what they're offering.

[Pat McAfee]

The foundation and all the proceeds that.

[A.J. Hawk]

Of the truck that they're auctioning off will be going to The Calvin Johnson Jr. Foundation, obviously to boost those student athletes and families both in Atlanta and Detroit. So it's pretty awesome what they. What they're doing. They've done a bunch of of these collaborations, so kudos to them for putting their hands and having an impact in the communities that they're.

[Pat McAfee]

That they're working in.

[A.J. Hawk]

But it's dope to have this close to home here in Rochester Hills, Michigan. So I'm take my Raptor over there.

[Pat McAfee]

And get it all fitted up, because.

[J.J. Watt]

I've seen all the sales, all the.

[A.J. Hawk]

Accessories they got going on.

[Pat McAfee]

I can't wait to hear that thing. Power at home. You know, obviously Real trucks got it cooking in it. You can see the brand new custom Ford F150. It'll be showcased at Real Truck, the store in Rochester Hills, Michigan. And then in 2027, the vehicle will be auctioned off with 100% of the proceeds going to Calvin Johnson Junior Foundation. That's a beautiful thing I like. Whenever the community companies and great people come together to make magic happen, shout out to you, calvin, let's talk about magic. This Detroit Lions team, brother. Hey, listen, I know that you could probably still play and maybe you get that truck all suited and booty, you start feeling like you're 28 again. But this feels like a team you would to want to play for this Detroit Lions team. What is your take on this particular squad?

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah, man, no shade to any of my coaches. I played for Rod Mar, Nelli, Jim Schwartz, Jim Caldwell. But Dan, man, that player coach, man, it's nothing like having a player coach. I was fortunate to have a player coach in Sean Jefferson throughout half of my career in Detroit. And I understand, you know, the buy.

[Pat McAfee]

In that you get, and that's what those guys got up there.

[A.J. Hawk]

They got buy in because half of that staff, not most of that staff.

[Pat McAfee]

Or former player coaches, but just the. The energy and the.

[A.J. Hawk]

The environment to compete and to thrive and to become the best version of yourself. Not just player, but yourself. That's what Dan is creating there, man. It's. It's a great culture.

[Pat McAfee]

Going to win a Super Bowl? What do you think?

[A.J. Hawk]

Are they going to win a Super Bowl?

[Pat McAfee]

You think what you say? You think they can? Because let me tell you, Foxy over here, right?

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Foxy die hard. Foxy loves you. Foxy has been praying to the football guy for another Calvin Johnson, since you were debuted as the lion and forever as a lion, right, Fox? 1,000%. Calvin, thank you for everything you did in Detroit, brother. Yeah, but are we at the point this year, you know, are we at the point this year where you can go on a run, or do you think you're setting up for, like next year, for instance, Both new coordinators now? I don't know if Kelvin Shepard's going to be there next year. He's just defensive coordinator. His name is starting to get floated in a couple of different jobs because of how awesome he is. You talk about former player. We are teammates with him. He's beloved.

[Darius Butler]

Might be LSU's head coach.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly. That. That is what we're saying, like back home.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

But I'm saying, though, like, with the brand new coordinators with everything, do you think this team has the same juice as last year where we thought they were going to go win the Super bowl, you think same thing this year. If we just missed the injury bug as much as we had last year?

[A.J. Hawk]

I mean, we know we had the juice.

[J.J. Watt]

There's like, you know, last game, you.

[Pat McAfee]

Know, it was a little bit of.

[A.J. Hawk]

Struggle, but we saw. There's a little stretch there over the last month where they got hot on.

[Pat McAfee]

Offense and they're really moving the ball up and down the field, both running.

[A.J. Hawk]

The ball and passing the ball. If we cannot continue to do that.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, if we get stuck in.

[J.J. Watt]

One facet, then, yeah, we're we're not.

[A.J. Hawk]

Going to, you know, our days are number. Put it like that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I got DBUT has a question for you. Yeah?

[Darius Butler]

Calvin, I know you rooting for your Lions, but what's it like still watching your old quarterback Matt Stafford, still spending it still playing at a high level, MVP level. What have you seen from. From him? I guess differently. Like his evolution from the time that you played with him.

[Pat McAfee]

Man.

[A.J. Hawk]

What up, bro?

[Pat McAfee]

Good to see you too, bro.

[A.J. Hawk]

Man, it just looks so easy. It looks so easy for him right now.

[Pat McAfee]

He looks, you know, stressless.

[A.J. Hawk]

You know, that, that, that's inside of Matthew that, you know, I got to.

[Pat McAfee]

See latter part of my career.

[A.J. Hawk]

And he's just, he's just taking it to a whole nother level.

[J.J. Watt]

He's gaining, you know, different making different.

[A.J. Hawk]

Throws, not all fastballs. And he's just seeing the field really, really good. I wish he could.

[Pat McAfee]

I wish he would have. He's still not running the ball like.

[A.J. Hawk]

I want him to as a quarterback, but that's never been that's game either.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but he used to take some massive hits. Oh, yeah, Yeah. I mean, the shots, I mean, it was. He's tough dude. Still doing it. Everybody remembers his mic'd up where it feels like his shoulders out of place and he didn't score. I gotta go do another play. Somebody comes over to him, you know, and then he's still. The Cleveland game, I think. Yeah, exactly. It is like, what a dog. Especially for how long he's been able to do it. All right, last question here for you with you talk topical NFL stuff. Go ahead, con man.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. Calvin Sauce Gardner got traded yesterday from the jets to the Colts. What type of corner for you gave you the most trouble? And what type of corner is Sauce Gardner? And how much better do you think the Colts defense will be because of him?

[A.J. Hawk]

Definitely an improvement to that Colts defense. For me, the corners that gave me the most problem were the ones that didn't necessarily press.

[J.J. Watt]

I like it when you're aggressive and press.

[A.J. Hawk]

But the ones that more so play, that catch technique where they were like.

[J.J. Watt]

You know, three yards off, they didn't.

[A.J. Hawk]

Really go at you, let you more so come into them and then they kind of latch on. And then with that, you know, if.

[J.J. Watt]

You'Re a long, a tall, long arm.

[A.J. Hawk]

Corner, those are the ones that gave me the most trouble. Because, I mean, not in today's game, because today's game you can't touch the receiver. But back in the day or like 10 years ago when I was playing yeah, they would latch on that first 5, 10 yards and it never get called, you know.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they would always call it really properly at the first five yards and ended there. And I do love hearing older players, especially ones that are like the greatest of all time going would have been nice maybe. So let me. I'm taller than everybody, I'm faster than everybody, I can jump higher than everybody and they're not allowed to slow me down at all. That is the rules. Precisely. Sweet. Boom. We are doing this one right there. You did that back in the day as well though. So you need to know that we all understand your greatness. And anytime a good wide receiver comes out, they always pop the clip out and go. I don't know if they're ever going to get the Calvin Johnson punt bracket coverage though. And that's like kind of a staple now. You changed the game, brother. We appreciate the hell out of you.

[A.J. Hawk]

Appreciate you, bro. You changing the game right now, man.

[Pat McAfee]

I love the show.

[A.J. Hawk]

Y' all keep it up.

[Pat McAfee]

All right? We need you, Sue. We need you to come back whenever we have more time. We love chatting with you. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Calvin Johnson real truck. Rochester Hills, Michigan. That guy from Wells, I believe in Africa. Yeah, I believe he was building to. He has great greenery company obviously hall of fame football career then, now a truck partnership. It's like this guy, one of the most well rounded business people of all time. I mean unbelievable. And then what he did on the.

[Darius Butler]

Field was great family as well. Come from great family.

[Pat McAfee]

Georgia Tech. They first half using them.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Can you imagine if he went with Oklahoma and not Georgia Tech?

[Pat McAfee]

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Football.

[Pat McAfee]

This is the greatest sport on earth. We're lucky to cover it every single day. It's not just me here. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, nine year NFL vet, host of Everything db, Good D, Bad D. And also the NFL matchup show that you could see on ESPN do, depending upon what carrier you're having. Let's make sure we figure that out.

[Darius Butler]

Please.

[Pat McAfee]

Please, we need it bad. Now they clarify. What I said yesterday has obviously made its rounds where me saying, hey, stop saying go to the website. Yeah, I need you to stop doing that to me. The way I said it made it sound like I was taking shots at the people that were saying it or tweeting it. Sure. Because they agreed to do it. This is mostly from whoever said, hey, you know what? All our liked people, we need to throw them right in the middle of this fire too. You know, have them go tell people. That is mostly my. So if you'd like to correct it and run it back, that is who I am. It's not necessarily like, hey, Herb Street. I'm saying hey, because Herb street was probably informed by somebody like, hey, would you like to. That person needs to not do that. Okay? Herbie's got enough on his plate already. We don't need to be putting. Because it's. At the end of the day, you're going to get 20 people that go to that link. Okay? We know this because of affiliate business. You know, the beginning of the Internet business days is links. Okay? Send people your links so companies know how many people are using your thing. So do you have an active audience? So then we've done the whole send a website thing. We've done the whole what happens. People very lazy. Okay? Even on an app, people are lazy. They don't Even want to do it. And as soon as they see you doing that, their immediate reaction is no, you figure it out, smart guy. And also shill corporate shit. Oh, you want me to fix the problem? Okay, yeah, I'm the one. So I just think it's all bad, I think for the people that I am a big fan of. But on that note, none of us are a fan of the situation. Everybody trying to get this thing over with. We all do, I think, except for potentially the people that are currently actually sitting at a table that aren't reading the petitions that are coming from a website. Those people are not doing that. That is not how that's going. So we need them to put their swords down for the good of ball. Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Right now.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. Kind of, kind of needed it last Friday, but need it right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Ink to paper. Yeah, we need it. Actually, you know what? Get the deal done. Celebrate for a night. Okay. Don't tell us until tomorrow. Sure. But just, we need it Saturday. We need this by Saturday morning. Okay. Need this by Saturday morning.

[Darius Butler]

Maybe, maybe pull a Jerry Jones like Friday night. You're going to be happy tomorrow morning.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, it's Christmas Eve, isn't it? Yeah. Little smile on your face going, why don't you leave some cookies out for old Santa Claus, Jerry Jones. Yeah, Maybe there is a little bit of that's what we're going to live in. We're going to live in that world where that's to going to happen. Congrats to the people that are negotiating this deal that are definitely reading the website telling them that they need to get a deal done to kind of drive them to get the negotiation to the right place. Congrats to them getting that deal done for all of us. Thank you guys for heroes.

[Boston Connor]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of negative things said about all of you guys, but you guys are now heroes for getting it back in the middle of football season. Needed 12 year NFL veteran, Super bowl champion. That's AQ Shipley. We appreciate the hell out of you. And joining us live from Anakin, Ohio, is a man who has a statement to make about YouTube, TV and ESPN against current disagreement. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J. hawk. A.J.

[AQ Shipley]

Give him hell, Hawk. A.J.

[Pat McAfee]

The website. Get to the website, A.J.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah, I do appreciate you letting me start off with that. Yeah, I actually went to the website four or five times and signed up and, you know, I guess typed up my complaints. I don't know why you went out of frame. You must be going checking the website as well to see the, the massive amount of traffic.

[Pat McAfee]

It's got no computers right here. I was letting you kind of have the floor. What I was saying is the floor is yours, basically, is what I was saying there for you to do that. But on that note, thank you for going to that website because it does mean that you would like to be able to watch ball again. I'm the same way. I didn't go to website because I thought to myself, is this a waste of time? Maybe. Maybe it is, but maybe it is.

[A.J. Hawk]

What is at the website. Has anyone truly gone there and checked out what you do?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. So there's a little. There's a couple different options there. You want to send a tweet. You want to send a tweet. We got you right here. You want to do this. You want to send an email. You can do this right here. You want to watch. You can do this right here. It's got options for these moral options. It's more. You actually get a link to get to more links. And it's like, people love that, especially in 2025 now, maybe in. I don't know, when the Internet started, you know, people loved being able to just kind of, oh, yeah, this is fun.

[A.J. Hawk]

When Al Gore started it, I do.

[Pat McAfee]

I do believe he is credited with birthing the Internet. And I thought, so what a wild turn the Internet has taken now that it kind of. Al Gore, I believe Al Gore, I.

[A.J. Hawk]

Thought he or Beyonce, one of the two.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Beyonce started the Internet.

[A.J. Hawk]

Maybe together.

[Darius Butler]

Beyonce's Internet.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I think that is a section of the Internet. Like, Beyonce certainly has a portion of the Internet.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, the Beehive.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, exactly. It is. Yeah. And you buzz in and you buzz out. There's also NBA Twitter, which we know.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Now it did have a rebrand. NBA Twitter. Always, always been the best part of Twitter.

[Darius Butler]

I would say black Twitter are still.

[A.J. Hawk]

Still there.

[Pat McAfee]

Whoa.

[Darius Butler]

I know what you're saying.

[Pat McAfee]

No, me. No, no, that's not what I'm saying. Boy, you get dropped into there, though, as a what it is a great place to be or worst place to be of all time. Just one, depending upon how it's going.

[Darius Butler]

You just never want to be the main character.

[A.J. Hawk]

Never ever.

[Pat McAfee]

Now you just going to. But if you get into the. What portion of Twitter are you referring to now?

[Darius Butler]

It's black Twitter.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. So if you happen to get into that particular portion of Twitter, boy, and you are a what it is. Enjoy the ride and go ahead, just keep updating that thing because you're about to hear that you have never heard Before AJ it is great to have you back. We missed you. Sauce Gardner is now a member of the Indianapolis Colts. Quinn Williams is now a member of the Dallas Cowboys. There was actually some massive moves made yesterday. What is your takeaway from trade deadline? As you kind of gather it all in?

[A.J. Hawk]

Definitely more superstars moving around than I thought. I said it felt like it happened. Obviously late. I mean, saw us going to India, I instantly thought of you and just thought how. And I've seen the clip of everything during the pre record. I've seen it all.

[Pat McAfee]

It's. It's.

[A.J. Hawk]

It's pretty awesome.

[Darius Butler]

And it's.

[A.J. Hawk]

It's bizarre that it actually happened, honestly. Like, the timing of it. Everything about it is wild. And Sauce is awesome. Like, why not if you're the Colts?

[Pat McAfee]

I think it's.

[A.J. Hawk]

I didn't Trig say he feels like it's a win win, like in that whole situation, even though people can say whatever, whoever won the trade right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Shregs has to say that because he has friends on both sides. Remember, these insiders have to play fence all the time. Okay. Have to. Has to be some sort of positive. Except for with the Lions. I don't know if Shregs has any ties to the Lions because remember before the season he was like, upside friend of mine. Okay. Even though the team looks bad and is going to inevitably not play bad down, I don't think Detroit Lions. That was one of his misses. That was. He was taking massive takes and that was. He literally laid out. This is a massive take, a massive say. But I think Detroit Lions are going to have a down year. And I'm like, wow, Shregs never really does it. Shrags is always at least something positive for everywhere. That's life of an. That was my takeaway. Shrigs knows no one at the line. So hey, this is a team I can bury and not make anyone mad. See, that's journalism. We're trying to get to the bottom of these takes. A.J. we've missed you, buddy. I don't know if you know this, but last night, huge night in the college football world, the actual rankings in the actual bracket, that is coming from the actual group of people that are going to be deciding who the College Football Playoff inevitably is at the end of the year when whenever they start at 12 and count down to one, rolled out their first official rankings of the year. We saw them put their hats on the hat tree and now we see what they came up with in that room. Let's go to Hammer dad Todd AP Tone, Tone, what did the College Football Playoff committee tell us with their first projected 12 team bracket?

[AP Tone]

Yeah, I don't think there was a ton of surprises here. There was two things that I took away from looking at at this and the first one being Oregon at 9. When I projected it I thought they would be higher but the committee disagreed with me. They are the lowest ranked one loss team from the Big ten or sec. They are behind Bama, Georgia, Ole Miss and Texas Tech. Who's in the Big 12 as far as one loss team goes. Teams go. So they are like Oregon needs to be careful. Oregon still has options. Iowa this weekend at Kinnick which is huge. USC and Washington like all those teams are ranked. All those teams are good. Like if Oregon messes around and loses any of those games I like I they're definitely going to drop them behind Texas or Oklahoma teams like that. So like Oregon, I wouldn't be happy if I were them when this came out because one more loss and they could definitely be out of the playoff as a two loss team which would suck for them. And then the other thing I was looking at Notre Dame's at 10 right now as a two loss team. But go behind them. The two teams right behind them, Texas and Oklahoma. Texas has Georgia and A and M left. Like if they beat Georgia and A and M, guess what? Texas is going to be ahead of Notre Dame. So Notre dame drops to 11. Oklahoma has Bama and Mizzou left and that Bama is at Bama. Like if if Oklahoma to were somehow beat Bama on the road. I think they jump Notre Dame too. So while not Notre Dame's in there right now, I don't know if they're safe. Obviously if they lose they're out. But Oregon as well as a one loss Oregon if you drop to two losses I think you you might go behind Texas and Oklahoma in that situation too. So those two teams is what I kind of took away from last night's rankings.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, let's check out what tones predicted CFP committee bracket look like verse what the CFP committee bracket was. What did you get wrong? You got Oregon ranked differently but basically have all the same teams. You, you basically are seeing the fit field how the CFP committee seeing the field. Do you feel that way?

[AP Tone]

Yeah, as you said earlier, I saw all those old whites walk in there and put their helmets up on that the hat rack and you know they went in there to do their business and yeah I had Oregon higher. I thought they would be higher. Maybe five was a little too High. But I didn't think they would be behind, you know, Texas Tech. Like, I thought for sure they'd be ahead of Texas Tech just because normally there's no respect for the Big 12. Not saying there shouldn't be. I'm just saying in the committee's eyes. But yeah, all the teams were correct and just kind of. Oregon was really the only one that was. Was out of place.

[A.J. Hawk]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

What? Out of baby tone. That's why you're best in the game.

[Ty Schmidt]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

I see you're growing back your beard. I thought maybe you were just sticking with mustache for a while or maybe this. The look.

[AP Tone]

No, the.

[Pat McAfee]

The.

[AP Tone]

Just the mustache was a horrendous look. That was a miscalculation of epic proportions on my part.

[Pat McAfee]

But no, I don't mind the.

[AP Tone]

I don't mind the mustache. With, like, the. It's starting to come in. This is a week's worth of growth. Maybe like another week with mustache. I'm starting. We're starting to find it a bit here.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Holiday season. Holiday season. Congrats to you.

[AP Tone]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

Steelers get a huge win over the Colts. Tone batting a thousand in college football, and he's starting to find it with his face. Joining us now is a guy who's starting to find it in the booth, isn't he? Oh, yeah, listen. I was listening for a long time. This guy talk about a game in which his brother dominated and my team was the best team in the league and was losing pretty bad. And I'd say he did a great job doing it. Ladies and gentlemen, future first ballot hall of Famer, a member of the Bull Ring of Honor. Ladies and gentlemen, J.J. watt J, owner of Burnley as well, and Espanol. The soccer team's absolutely crushing it. How come the Texans aren't calling it the Bull Ring of Honor? How come? I saw there's an announcement, there's another member going in, a fourth member going in, I believe this weekend. It just said Ring of Honor. I thought for sure this must have been a Mandela effect. I thought it was called the Bull Ring of Honor.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's not.

[Pat McAfee]

No, it's just a ring of Honor.

[Boston Connor]

Come on.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's a miss.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[J.J. Watt]

So, I mean, you've. You have certainly taken that bull by the horns and. And let it around the track. So it's. It's got a second nickname for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I thought that was the official title. Yeah, I thought that's what it was. And then I saw the logo in the photo and it's like, oh, it's.

[J.J. Watt]

Not that we did. Welcome Mr. Janice McNair. Sweet, sweet soul. One of the best women ever. So she is now up there and rightfully so. She's the best.

[Pat McAfee]

So there's four of you now in the bull ring of honor. Are you guys going to play Ukre? Is the crew going to get together, maybe play little cards against each other?

[J.J. Watt]

I don't know. I don't know. I'm there this weekend. I'm very excited. I got a Houston game this weekend, so I'm really, really looking forward to that and really, really hoping we can get some offensive production going. That would be. That would be a plus.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that would be a plus for an offense to maybe not turn the ball over and do what they've been doing all season, you know, especially in a game where maybe it's a homecoming for one particular squad. And let's go back to the game that you called this past weekend as opposed to the one that you're going to talk about this upcoming weekend, which we will certainly dive into. C.J. stroud, that's a big hit. Obviously did not look good at all, but we'll dive into that later. Let's talk about Colts, Steelers, you're obviously calling it. Your brother has huge play after huge play. The defense very dominant. Obviously special teams turnover as well. This Colts offense didn't look the same as it always has looked. Jonathan Taylor was never really able to get going. It's because the Steelers defense was so damn stingy. Your takeaway from the game is this is the Sealers team that everybody kind of thought they could be coming into the season. And has the defense kind of flipped the switch on or is it just against the Colts when the 2005 teams in the building and. And that's the only time they're going to be good all season. What are your thoughts as you watch the game from inside?

[J.J. Watt]

I got a lot of thoughts. First of all, I'm going to go ahead and say that my prediction from last week of they just couldn't win in those ugly throwback uniforms. Maybe that was true. They put their regulars back on and they play Good again. The 2005 team being in attendance, certainly you don't want to embarrass yourselves in front of that group. You got Dick LeBeau and all, just a legend there. So the defense wanted to come out and play good, I'm sure. But it was, it was just all week long they had talked about simplifying their defense. You know, in our meetings and everything. They said they wanted to simplify it and just play fast. And I do think that the Colts may have abandoned the run a little bit early, partially because the Steelers were playing the run very well. But the Colts offense we've seen all year is a efficient. It is on schedule. They stay ahead of the sticks. They get tons of yardage on first down, creating short seconds, short third downs. And they just weren't really in that. The first drive of the game, they go out there and score a touchdown. But then the game got a little weird. They had that muff punt. They had, obviously, the interceptions, the force fumble by TJ that was really kind of in the stadium, the turning point. You could feel the momentum change. But, I mean, six takeaways in the game is a ton. That Steelers defensive defense really did have a good day. And we people are always looking for a reason to doubt the Colts. You know this. You're part of it. We were talking to Zaire Franklin about it, and he was like, yeah, they always move the goalposts. It was, you know, we hadn't beaten anybody then. It was. We hadn't beaten anybody outside then. It wasn't on grass. And so this is kind of one of those first ones. Where was it? Because it was outside on grass, who knows? But looking for them to get back.

[Pat McAfee]

On track in Berlin, it wasn't because of the grass. Okay. The boys are just fine going. Going into a mudder if they have to. Okay. They just had an off game and the ball was going obviously a different direction than it had all season. We like that that happened as a fan. Yeah. Let's get it out of the way. Okay. Let's get out of the way. We're still 7 and 2. Still leading. Everything but six turnovers, you assume, and you only lose by seven. Hey, almost had it at the end. Appreciate you shouting out the old onside kick. I appreciate the love.

[J.J. Watt]

Last onside kick. Didn't realize that it's been that long since an onside kick. I mean, it. That speaks to how on. We gotta fix this onside kick thing, man. We got it. There's got to be at least some sort of chance here.

[Pat McAfee]

So since he just got one against the Bears, but I think that was even. That was because it was a shorter kick and the Bears end up hitting it with the foot. But I think there's some protections on the guy. But yeah, you guys showing this one was really cool. Really, really sweet because I completely forget about that one, to be honest. Yeah, just bend it over a guy's back. Don't worry about it bend it like Beckham. I don't even to be honest, when you showed it, I had not thought of that particular kick ever really since retirement because there's so many more. You know, the one against Houston, obviously.

[J.J. Watt]

I thought for sure it was going to be ours. I thought for sure it was ours.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we had a good time. Yeah. Okay, so we need to stop showing. I mean, that's a nasty ball. I mean, that is an absolute that.

[J.J. Watt]

You thought that was getting recovered. You cannot tell me that you thought that was getting recovered.

[Pat McAfee]

No, but it did dance exactly how I wanted it. I mean, it did exactly what I wanted it to do. I mean, I bent that son of a bitch.

[A.J. Hawk]

I mean, you gave a chance. You gave your. You gave the, you know, your cover team a chance.

[Pat McAfee]

And that thing was dancing. That thing's dancing like a top. That guy's scared to death. This thing's coming at me sideways, you know, I don't know what to do. And he tries to fall because he thinks he's going to take a quick thing because it's oblong. Yeah, right, brother Benny like Beckham, who just got knighted I think yesterday around it. Boom. Let me hit a go route. Hey, brother, run a go route. I'm going to send this thing to you on the other side. Yeah, I need to like, like that one more. Completely out of memory. Had no idea that that even happened until you guys showed it. So you kind of breaking news to me about that. I'm like, man, I forgot about it.

[Darius Butler]

That is a very nerve wracking position to be in as that hands guy who's responsible to try to read the bounce. That is very, very nerve wracking.

[Pat McAfee]

See, a lot of mine were surprised though. And the onside kick now has kind of gone away from that completely. It's just kind of to your point, J. It has kind of just become over. Yeah. This one.

[J.J. Watt]

Ah, come on.

[Pat McAfee]

This one was cool. This one was cool, J.

[J.J. Watt]

You don't need to go to the well this many times.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, listen, I didn't know Foxy was going to be doing this. I didn't know we had all of them back there. But I do appreciate the fact that I'm going down. Glory days. We guys even on the field. That's what people are wondering, you know, and the reason why it was wide open is because we had hit a surprise onside kick to the right earlier in the year and then we hit one to the left early in the year. So Houston Texans were like, well, if we go on the right and the left. This guy can't do shit. They completely forgot about the middle of the field. Now, I'm not saying that's a bad idea, because no kicker really thinks that they're safe when they do that kick. So they. You know, as I'm kicking that, I think, oh, I'm gonna get my spine fractured here, you know? Cause I'm gonna go down on this, and this is gonna become a boom, boom, boom. So as I'm doing that, I'm literally laying. You see me like, if you saw on my face, it's like a. Ready for full. Oh, no. I'm. I might not be able to walk out of here. I mean, who knows? Nobody touches me. I mean, they weren't even close.

[J.J. Watt]

Nobody.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, what a perfect situation. It was the greatest. I got up. I'm like, oh, no contact. This is the greatest of all. On that note, thank you for the love. Tell the CBS people that I very much appreciate them showing me do something good as opposed to something bad, which is normally the case in this entire situation. I would like to let you guys know. You called a good game, too. I thought you called a very, very good game. All right, let's talk about some other going on around the league. Go ahead, aj.

[A.J. Hawk]

Jj, I know it's most important on. On top of your list. What you want to talk about. Is it true that you may clone yourself and possibly your brothers with this whole situation with Tom Brady cloning his. His dog, I believe.

[Boston Connor]

Come on.

[Darius Butler]

It's a great question, aj.

[Boston Connor]

Come on.

[A.J. Hawk]

Steelers.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I thought we were gonna do football, but, hey, Tom Brady's greatest football player of all time.

[Ty Schmidt]

So.

[J.J. Watt]

We'Re. There's a lot of dog talk in the analyst world. I'm just gonna keep my dogs on my Instagram story, and that's. That's gonna be about the end of it. I don't. They're not.

[Pat McAfee]

Hold on. No. Did we know that I could clone Valerie, my dog who's a pit bull Sharpe dog who I absolutely love now? I don't know if they're just going to be able to pick up her mentality and mindset from being a stranger street dog and shelter dog and everything like that? I don't know if you're gonna be able to clone that. But if. If Valerie can just be two years old again, just sleeping at the.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

At the floor of the bed. It's like, hold on. I got the same dog. Oh, she's got a different attitude now. It's like, okay, Yeah. I mean, Valerie's going through a different stage. And then I just got Valerie for the next 50 years. Is that what's happening?

[J.J. Watt]

That's what Tom Brady told me. Chuck, the big one is Chuck the hefty fella.

[A.J. Hawk]

They won't let you clone him.

[J.J. Watt]

You could clone him.

[A.J. Hawk]

So much.

[Boston Connor]

I mean, give him a break.

[A.J. Hawk]

Okay, the ottoman.

[J.J. Watt]

Can we.

[Pat McAfee]

Can we.

[J.J. Watt]

Can we clone the ottoman and just shrink it?

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, the ottoman is. Give him stronger legs and he has an incredible stature, I will tell you. Yeah, he stands there strong and fat, but he's very tough to move. And he's stubborn. Actually, if I could clone Chuck and get a better mindset, which is possible, I guess maybe I do that.

[J.J. Watt]

Another shot from the beginning.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, so. And maybe we did get him on doggy zempic from day one because we know what's in his blood. What?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

We know he can become super fatso.

[J.J. Watt]

The cloning, it's starting back at the start, right? It's like. It's just like a baby all over again.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Here's ch.

[Darius Butler]

I had the same question.

[J.J. Watt]

I don't know if that's God, man. That sounds fair.

[Pat McAfee]

And I'm the only one that didn't have a leash on, you know, cuz he's. He's too fat for the leash at the game. So he ran, though. Look at him. His little legs.

[Ty Schmidt]

Damn near one.

[Boston Connor]

If it was skiing, he would have won.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[J.J. Watt]

It'S not.

[Pat McAfee]

We're not thinking about clowning Chuck anyways. Chuck's got a long life ahead. Valerie though, certainly on her final long life days here. And AJ I feel like you.

[J.J. Watt]

I feel like you've looked into this before. I feel like you've looked into this before.

[A.J. Hawk]

To clone animals or to clone humans? What are you talking about?

[J.J. Watt]

All of it. I think you've looked into all of it.

[A.J. Hawk]

No, I saw the movie Multiplicity. It doesn't always work out. There's always going to be some deep defects when you do that. I don't think that's a smart thing. If you could bring back Carl, my old German shepherd, I would do it. If he. If he had Carl's mindset. That's what I need, that mindset.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't think they can clone the mindset, J.J. i don't think they can do that. I don't know. Tom would. That's up to you.

[A.J. Hawk]

Parenting.

[J.J. Watt]

Nature versus nurture. Maybe you. Maybe it's you that put the mindset in him.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't want to give me that much credit for Valerie. For sure. I I don't know about Carl. Maybe my wife.

[A.J. Hawk]

That Carl was carnal.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he was. Hey, rest in peace, Corey.

[J.J. Watt]

Carl.

[Pat McAfee]

Carl was a hell of a dog. Tom Brady. Doing this, though, does add to the thing about, like, man, these super duper duper rich people just do sweet stuff all the time. Found out he can clone his dog. Yep. Give me her. And you asked, is it a baby dog?

[Darius Butler]

Well, yeah, I think JJ asked it as well. I don't know if it's a dumb question today. When you clone it, is it just. Do you pick the.

[J.J. Watt]

Thank you for asking, because I'm with you, dude.

[Darius Butler]

Does it come back?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Does it come back as, you know, start from scratch or we start starting from, like, what are we doing? I mean, starting from Petri dish. I think it's. I think it's weird. And I. I thought I was in the majority, but apparently I'm not. After the show. I'm not a big pet guy, so maybe that's what it is. But it was more people on the.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, maybe I'm with you. No, but what was.

[Ty Schmidt]

What was the consensus, though? It was the same thing. It was, hey, if I can clone Murph and he is the exact same dog as he is right right now, I'll take him. If I get a knockoff version and he's not acting like him, I'll kick that dog in the stomach as hard as I can, because that's not the dog I want. I want my dog.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't kick your dog in the stomach.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, that's what I'm saying. This thing's. This thing's a monster. He's created by science. He's not a dog. He's not my dog.

[A.J. Hawk]

Put him down.

[Pat McAfee]

Listen, Tom Brady, enjoy your dog, dude. Okay, I don't think any of us are gonna clone our dogs, but Fit.

[Boston Connor]

K. Dude, you got you just calling.

[J.J. Watt]

It the same name. Like, you just go, like.

[Pat McAfee]

Definitely.

[J.J. Watt]

Just pretend.

[Pat McAfee]

Definitely. It's like the UGA situation. This is Valerie 2. This is Valerie 3. You know, just like the. The buffalo, the Ralph.

[J.J. Watt]

Ralph, Ralphie.

[Pat McAfee]

They got that figured out.

[Boston Connor]

Did you.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you seen the newest one?

[Ty Schmidt]

He's got spunk.

[Pat McAfee]

Lot of spunk.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you heard the. Why the new Ralphie was introduced? J.

[J.J. Watt]

No, but I do remember our Buffalo bison talk. We did have that.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so what happened was Ralphie5, I think, is what. Which one? It was middle of career prime. Okay. They thought they had at least three, four more years of Ralphie kind of giving it a go out there. And Ralphie just said, nope, I'm not doing it anymore. They brought.

[J.J. Watt]

Brought Andrew luck.

[Pat McAfee]

He's brought some hard times right there for the Colts. Why'd you do that? Jh I'm talking about Ralphie Six coming in and saving the day. That's what Danny Dimes is. That's what Danny Dimes.

[J.J. Watt]

Maybe Danny Dimes is Ralphie.

[Pat McAfee]

Danny dimes is Ralphie Six. That is 100%.

[AP Tone]

I don't know. Things aren't going very well out Colorado, so.

[Pat McAfee]

No, but Ralph, he's killing it. Have you seen this Bison run? It runs.

[Ty Schmidt]

It does.

[Stanford Steve]

It does.

[AP Tone]

You're exactly right. But, like, Colorado and Wisconsin might be.

[Pat McAfee]

A pick them right now. Okay, so let's talk about Wisconsin. You own Burnley and Espanol. Why don't you own the Wisconsin football team? I. You know, I see Willie Compton giving speeches and donating his time and everything over there in Nebraska, Alaska. You're both red. You're both in the middle of America. You're potentially competing for the same type of players. Feels like you got to step up and maybe sell one of those soccer teams so you can invest directly into Luke Fickle's pockets in that team. Have you thought about that?

[J.J. Watt]

We need to play better. Yes, we do. Significantly.

[Pat McAfee]

Why don't you go give a speech?

[J.J. Watt]

I did. Didn't work.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, no.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm so sorry. Let's move along. Let's move along. Let's definitely move along. Butt has a question for you.

[Darius Butler]

I know it's a lot of travel right now. You sound a little backed up. I mean, I know you kind of take. I kind of take you as thank you for acknowledging a homeopathic guy, not the, you know, big farm guy. So get your sleep, get your rest, hydrate.

[Pat McAfee]

But also, there's some drugs you could take.

[Darius Butler]

No, no, no. He, he take. This is raw.

[A.J. Hawk]

Let me hear both sides.

[J.J. Watt]

Debug. What should I do?

[Pat McAfee]

And pat.

[A.J. Hawk]

What?

[Darius Butler]

Sleep, hydrate and eat. Right. You already exercise, so that's all you need. Stranger agrees.

[Pat McAfee]

And for me, you just call somebody that's in the super duper world and say, hey, these are my feelings right now. And they'll say, you got it. We're sending two IVs to you with the nurse in about 14 minutes. And then you all say, we're going.

[Boston Connor]

To give you this.

[Pat McAfee]

And then you're going to have that thing out of you in about 72 hours. I would never do that because I don't like getting pricked. But I do believe that is what you super duper owners of soccer teams can do in this entire thing. We're pulling for you and you only got to beat it one time, remember, throughout the season. And then you're on to you other side.

[Darius Butler]

Go ahead, D. But back to the NFL. Big news yesterday with all the trades, you know, on the other side of it. Cowboys, Jets, Colts, Seahawks, who actually came out to be my winner, in my opinion, with the trade deadline, who's your winner? As we sit here about 24 hours later.

[J.J. Watt]

I'm with you. I like. I mean, the Seahawks are a wagon dude. Like the, the. I think the west coast kind of loses.

[Pat McAfee]

I think.

[J.J. Watt]

I think there's true. Football fans and deep football fans obviously know it, but they're putting something together out there there. And then you go ahead and you add Shahid to it.

[Pat McAfee]

It's.

[J.J. Watt]

That's Sam Darnold's playing unbelievable football. That whole west coast right now with the Rams and everybody. Like there is some very good ball going on out there. I mean, the Colts make a massive swing, but also pay a massive price for it. So you come in and we were talking about it during the game, like, were they going to look at a Trey Hendrickson edge rusher type? Are they going to look on the back end? You get sauce out there and you get Mooney back all the time. Sudden, like, where are you throwing the ball on that defense? So it's the Colts clearly also putting Danny Dimes in a very nice spot when it comes to negotiations in the off season if he decides to take that stance. Because you're basically all in at the moment and saying that this is going to be your guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And we have to figure out where that money's coming from because I think Jonathan Taylor, if we know anything about how his business. Business goes, he's going to be wanting to be paid as well. So we got to pay Danny Dimes. We're going to pay Jonathan Taylor. We've paid a lot of people on this team and they're going all in. And they showcase it even more yesterday and we're all incredibly pumped about it. Let's talk about trade deadline a little bit for you. Go ahead, con man.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, J. Something just to consider with Brady as well. You ever want to win a divorce, bring back your kid's dog growing up, that might help. When you're looking at the trade, it's.

[Pat McAfee]

Not a bad play.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, you want to go to your mom's house? Well, guess who's here. The dog that you grew up with that was dead.

[Pat McAfee]

Ta da.

[Boston Connor]

It's Back. But jj, with the trade deadline, have you ever kind of gone through that process where your agent was letting you know, like, hey, there's a chance you might get dealt here today? Or were you always just kind of, hey, that doesn't even matter. I don't even think about that up until the day unless your agent reaches out to you.

[J.J. Watt]

The only time it ever happened was my last year in Houston, where it was at least like, somewhat where I was like, ah, should I be listening here? Should I be paying attention? Because we were obviously going through some stuff there and there was some organizational stuff. There was, There was just a whole lot going on, and I didn't even know at that point. So I. It's. It's really interesting because you're. You're aging. Everybody can tell you, like, no, don't worry, you're not going anywhere. Nothing's going on. But you still see all the stuff on the Internet. And you also realize that 99% of it is all. But, oh, I wouldn't. I won't lie and say you don't think about it and you start to look and you're like, all right, so if this, if they did do that, where. How is this going to work? Where am I going to go? Like, it's, It's a really interesting thing between that and then free agency, and it's. I hadn't been through that at any point in my career. And it's a. It, It. It's wild to put yourself in situations and know, like, I could be living in a completely different place with a completely different, different life.

[Pat McAfee]

And then he moved to Arizona, you know, and become a mega golfer. You see, he was out there, he's got those hockey stick golf clubs. Became a valuable member of the community over there. Him and AQ used to actually sweep streets at night. Clean it.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Pick up garbage, and then make sure that.

[J.J. Watt]

Congrats on the. I haven't talked to you since. Congrats on the skeleton coming back.

[AQ Shipley]

It was a big day. It was a big day in the Shipley household.

[Pat McAfee]

Thanks for calling attention to that. J. I think you mentioning it might have been the thing that made those frat boys say, oh, J.J. wall wants us now. That only happened because the Houston Texans said, jj, get the hell out of our building, please. You know, and that was whenever Nuke was happening. That's a tough realization for some people. You know, we talked about Trent Richardson whenever he came out and said, whenever he was traded away from Cleveland to Indianapolis, it was the moment where he was like, oh, this isn't. This is business. He thought it was kind of like a shattering moment to hear that a team doesn't want you anymore. I think players expect experience that at the end of their careers as well. Like, sometimes guys who've been the greatest for a long time are finally told by a team for the first time, like, hey, we don't want you. And there's like a jaded feel, you know, it doesn't feel like any of the guys nowadays feel like that. Like, Sauce came out, was like, hey, it's just business. You gotta do what you gotta do. I wonder if that's because the Nil era, where these guys have been around money for so long, it's like, hey, business is everything almost. You know what I mean? Jj?

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah. I think the business side of things has certainly become much more. More understood by everybody involved. I also think we've talked about it before, like, the. The old school mentality of, like, this is my team. This is like, I live and die and bleed for this team. It's a lot different with even fans, like, with fantasy football and with the ability to watch all the games. You see people from a certain city who, in the past, it's, I only support this team. I don't support anybody else. Now we're in an era where you're supporting all different people. Sometimes it's just part of players and you're. Because they're on your fantasy team or just because you like them, or maybe they got traded away. So it's the whole jersey swap thing. It's a little bit of everything. Like, it's. It's just not quite as, like, tribal as it used to be.

[Pat McAfee]

Aaron. Aaron Rodgers Jersey Hakama.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Big time ham. Everybody's going up.

[J.J. Watt]

Who got it? Did somebody get it?

[Pat McAfee]

I'm not sure. I'm not. I am not sure. Somebody did, though. And the thing that I like is obviously the Colts number one team in the NFL still, and they're humble enough to understand. You know, one of the legends out.

[J.J. Watt]

There did I see is Sauce getting number one from Downs.

[Pat McAfee]

Downs is going downs to business alongside his brother. His podcast actually Downs to Business podcast. And he and Caleb will both be wearing the number two. You know, Caleb currently at Ohio State, maybe the best football player in college football as a whole. And Josh, superstar for us, obviously, Danny Dimes and he have done some magical things together. He moves to number two because they're dons to business. And then Sauce.

[J.J. Watt]

I didn't even know you could do that in the middle of the season.

[Pat McAfee]

Me neither. Especially with, like, the jersey thing, you know, because anytime guys want to change numbers, they're always like, well, you got to pay back the amount of money that jerseys have already been made. That's always something.

[Darius Butler]

Assume Sauce probably footed that bill for him.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I'd assume after getting paid. Okay. This is kind of how this whole thing goes. Don's two business, though, being their podcast that has just launched, and I'm both wearing a number two, and him coming out here saying, too slippery, too sweet, you know, to everything. It's too neat. Like, that is a. I think that is a very good move. I like what they're doing, and also the culture in the locker room is great. You see that immediately from before I'm even stepping foot in there. Yeah, you're cool, dude. Let's keep it moving. Let's roll. It's no worries. And everybody coming in. Lou Anarumo. Did you see his quote? J. See?

[J.J. Watt]

No, I did not.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, we reached out to the building and we said, I don't have.

[J.J. Watt]

I don't have the stuff. I can't watch the ESPN shows. I don't. I don't have it. I have something. I don't know what. I. I have.

[Boston Connor]

Tell them where you going?

[J.J. Watt]

I didn't. I didn't go to the website that you told me to go to.

[Pat McAfee]

I never said go to the website. J. Don't you put that on me.

[J.J. Watt]

J. I didn't. You. You told me that I had to go to some website. I saw you do a PSA and I didn't go to it.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, once again, not the boy's fault that are doing it. That should have never been an idea. Hey, bunch of gay.

[J.J. Watt]

The suit said it was your idea. Idea. I heard that. It was you who said, guys, we should crowd source this amongst all of our talent. This is how we should do it. I know the social media.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, everybody's really mad at us.

[Darius Butler]

Can you go tell them sign up?

[Boston Connor]

So we were so bummed when other guy was forced to do it, but.

[Pat McAfee]

When other guy said it, I did it. I went and did it. Go do this now.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's basically what he said. And when he said that, I was almost like, okay, other guy's talking. I gotta go do it.

[Boston Connor]

That one got traction. That one had like 2 million views on it.

[Pat McAfee]

We'll be talking to other guy here in about 30 minutes or so. And once again, it's not like I don't. We don't like whoever's idea that was. Was just coming from a place of just not understanding the reality of everything. It's like that. What?

[J.J. Watt]

Thought we were gonna just rally. We were all gonna be like, yeah, let me do it. Where's the petition that needs hung up? I want to help corporate America.

[Pat McAfee]

That's insane. Exactly. Yes. And also, hey, they like you. Right? Well, let's change that. Go ahead. And what are we even doing? Hey, sorry. Just know that all these people that people think are like these maybe a lot of things have been saying about corporate show and stuff like that. These people all love sport, want sports. You know what I mean? So it's like, that's why I get so like, man, why are we doing this? Like, Herbie's already got enough on his plate, right? Herbie's already got enough people for whatever reason, because he's been calling, getting him for 30 years and has the voice that he has in this entire thing. Yeah, let's just tell him also. Tell him, Tell me the other thing. It's like, God, you do that.

[J.J. Watt]

Their EX account is, is benefiting fantastically, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I think many would say there was a benefit for maybe all parties involved there. But on that note, yeah, it was an honor to be able to stream that and shout out to X to be like, yeah, absolutely. We are thankful for that. And who knows what the future looks like there, you know, in that entire.

[Darius Butler]

Are we on X right now?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't believe we are streaming live on X maybe.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah, we are.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we're streaming live on X. Yeah, we have. Cool.

[J.J. Watt]

No idea. I don't even know if I can watch this show in my own house right now.

[Pat McAfee]

The thing about X is signed petition, man. Phone, laptop. They don't have the TV app yet.

[J.J. Watt]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, and that's kind of the, like, YouTube has TV app everywhere. So everybody can pull YouTube up and put it up there. But if X wants to go in a content world, which allegedly they do, right. They really want to go. It's like, I think there's some things they can build, build up to be able to become a real thing. They're gonna have to get there, though. But other than that, it was like them being so nimble and welcoming on Saturday in like a 25, 30 minute period that all came together in like 25, 30 minutes. Because I think the YouTube TV. I thought the YouTube TV deal was going to get done before Saturday. I think we all kind of thought it was going to get done.

[J.J. Watt]

Yep. I. I did think that it's like.

[Pat McAfee]

A college football Right. We're in the middle of college football right now. Ratings up and to the right. Like, this is certainly for all parties here.

[AQ Shipley]

This.

[Pat McAfee]

This is really good news. And then Monday Night Football comes. We still don't have it. But on Saturday morning, whenever it's like, no, it's not happening. It's like, there has to be something here, you know? And then kind of make some plays. It reached a lot of people kind of trying to track. How do you compare that? It's like, you don't. These are two different world. You can't compare it to a TV number or a YouTube TV number, what an X number is. It's a different place. But it was an attempt to be like, hey, we do. We. This is. We understand what's going on, and we would like to put other free. So I think that's a good, good thing that ESPN did, and everybody's just kind of attacking them. It's like, it's a negotiation happening. You know, there's a lot of. Yeah, there's a lot up here. But what we're saying is there's ball. Yeah, there's. We need to see football.

[J.J. Watt]

We. We need it. And I'm not entering my information on another freaking website, and I'm not getting a confirmation code sent to my email, clicking it and coming back and putting it in. And then I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I did it once. I have some sort of subscription. I have no clue what it is because I can only watch freaking half the content, apparently. Or it's replayed content. That's. Figure it out.

[Pat McAfee]

This is a miracle. This is J.J. walk talking here. This ain't some rock for brains defensive tackle from the NFL. No, no. This is a guy that is your average American, J.J. watt, saying, I already signed up to watch this. Why I got to sign up again. And then with the ability for your phone to be able to take a picture, scan QR code, then I got to type in another password, another code. It's like we're all kind of done that thing.

[J.J. Watt]

When that thing pops up, it get hot.

[Pat McAfee]

This guy's breaking TVs, hates it. Listen.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah, and then you do it and you scan it and you're like, all right, I'm in. And then they're like, no, you don't have that one. So too bad. I mean, I'm trying to watch my guys. Like, I played for the Cardinals. I wanted to watch the game on Monday night.

[Pat McAfee]

On that note. On that note, Cardinals have the biggest win. They've had in a long time. Nobody saw it. Aq, do you have a question for Jade?

[AQ Shipley]

I do. Let's talk about Walter Nolan and Calais Campbell, the youngest defensive lineman and the oldest defensive lineman. Calais gets two sacks. Walter Nolan makes his debut, a sack. Two TFLs played great. What did you see from him?

[J.J. Watt]

I love it, man. I mean, it's the Cardinals. We talked about this earlier in the year. Like they lost those crazy, crazy close games in quick succession and their season would be looking completely different. And it's. I mean, as a guy who still has a bunch of friends on the team and in the building, like I'm sitting there like, damn, it would be so much fun to watch these guys have a success. And then Calais obviously dominating at the age of whatever the hell he is. He's just still so damn good. Obviously interesting moves there at the quarterback position. Everything that's going on. And then Marvin's dad comes out and rips the offense. Then Marvin has a great game and it's like, wow, that's. We should just. Maybe we should rip the offense earlier if that's what it's going to look like at this point. But I don't know. It's. It's tough. I know what it's like down there in Arizona. I want them to be good so badly and it would have been awesome if those one score games had gone the other way and we were sitting there looking at a different story.

[Pat McAfee]

Jacoby, the quarterback, obviously incredible leader and ability to navigate through the offense and they have a lot of faith in him. As well as they should. Huge Monday Night Football win. Marvin Harrison Jr. Said he was pumped up to be a focal point of the offense and we assume that'll be the same going forward.

[J.J. Watt]

You tell me what Walter Nolan did in the game. I. I'm not joking when I tell you I did not see the game. I'll just.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah. So he had one sack, a batted pass, two tackles for loss, and played against two really good guards. He showed up. I mean, he looks like he's going to be a presence.

[J.J. Watt]

Nice. Look forward to seeing them on television next week.

[A.J. Hawk]

Well, it'll be cleared up if you go to the website.

[AQ Shipley]

Speaking of that same subscription, I got that same subscription because I used to be able to watch things. Now you can't watch anything.

[Pat McAfee]

It's just replays upgrade they got you for.

[Darius Butler]

They don't even let you upgrade.

[Pat McAfee]

It's not money. I got like, I got the money.

[J.J. Watt]

I just don't want to sign up. I don't want to enter my information again.

[Pat McAfee]

So do you have to do it? Sometimes you have to do it on the device in which you registered. Have you ever seen that one?

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Where you have to do this on the device in which you register. I'm like, I don't know what device that is.

[J.J. Watt]

When was it the amount of people told me to put bunny ears on? Like, yeah, no offense. I don't know how to do that. I don't know how to get it to the right television in the house. Like, I'll be honest with you. I got a couple of them in the house, and I don't know how to get from my roof to the TV in my living room. It's a little waste, but.

[Pat McAfee]

But on. It's a little waste. I don't know if the bunny ears even work with modern television. Like, if you have a smart TV. I'm not 100%.

[J.J. Watt]

People were screaming at me in the comments. Get some bunny ears. Get some bunny ears. What the. What do you want me to do with bunny ears?

[Ty Schmidt]

Doesn't work for either. It would abc. It would work for. Yeah, basic cable, like abc, NBC, cbs. But, yeah, if you. You ain't getting ESPN with.

[Pat McAfee]

You know what? Take a key, put it on a stick, hold the smart tv, go to the highest hill, and just get a lightning rod that. That should be able to run.

[J.J. Watt]

You got to put a disclaimer on that, dude. You got. You got to put some kind of.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, sorry, that won't work. Maybe I don't know if that'll work.

[J.J. Watt]

I'm gonna go out there at the top of a hill and just get smoked by a lightning.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't do it, kids. Don't do it.

[Boston Connor]

Aq, help me out on how. How to get it on espn, because you explained it to me, like, when you upgraded your browsers to premium.

[Pat McAfee]

It's the same idea, right? Well, see that change because they've changed.

[AQ Shipley]

The state laws everywhere.

[AP Tone]

Put your ID in. Aq.

[Pat McAfee]

Put it in. All right.

[Darius Butler]

All right.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ has the last question for you.

[A.J. Hawk]

J. J, Obviously off. On that note, the Cowboys brought in Logan Wilson, Quinn, Williams, especially Quinn and Williams. What does he bring to a team? When you have a big dude like that, that is that dynamic in the middle, like, he can help a lot. I think. I don't think people understand what kind of impact a big, big dude like that can have on a defense.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah, sounds like they could have used a Monday night from what everybody's saying. I don't know. Yeah, I mean, Quinn and Williams Is a guy like, I love Quinn and Williams game. I mean, it's like he can play the run, he can play the pass. I mean, you look at the jets and you're like, all right, so you trade these two stellar young pieces that you have in hopes of drafting more stellar young pieces. Like, I just. I'm not 100% sure. Yes, it's a huge haul and yes, they got a bunch of great stuff, but Quinn is great. Do I know if he's going to fix that Dallas defense? No, I don't know that, but he's certainly going to make it significantly better. The guy's a damn good football player. When you have somebody that can plug up the run like that in the middle and rush the passer, it makes your entire defense better. So good for them. Now, if you compare, I know there's been that side by side done with the Micah Parsons trade and everything. That's been done with the picks and everything with it. I'm. I mean, Micah Parsons is still Micah Parsons.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, he certainly is in money time. Micah is going to show up in a big way for the Green Bay packers, we think late in the year, which will obviously pay off the entire trade and then some. Here's some. Some Hembo stats about maybe Quinn and helping Jerry Jones on trade Michael Parsons. We need to be able to stop to run. Okay, he's here. There, there. We tied most run stop wings as a D tackle this season. Quinn Williams, 61 of them. There you go, JH. That's all you need to see. He's Hembo's dropping a stat. Most run stops by D tackle, Quinn and Williams, period. That's all you need to know.

[A.J. Hawk]

So most run stop wins. Not most run. That's what those are.

[Peter Schrager]

Tackles.

[A.J. Hawk]

What exactly, exactly are those?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, he's eating up, you know.

[AP Tone]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, ball.

[Darius Butler]

Benny, you're gas.

[J.J. Watt]

Run stop wins. I mean, wouldn't. Wouldn't it have to be a win for you to stop the run? How do you. How do you have a run stop loss?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, here's the.

[J.J. Watt]

Stop it.

[Pat McAfee]

A defender can earn a win by doing any of the following. Beating his blocker so he's in better position to stop the run disrupt.

[J.J. Watt]

Oh, dude. Dude, Dude. Yeah.

[A.J. Hawk]

Swimming out of the A.

[J.J. Watt]

What the hell is this?

[Pat McAfee]

Can you let him face. There's a semicolon. There's a semicolon. Disrupting the pocket or running lane by pushing his blocker backward.

[Ty Schmidt]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Containing the runner such that he must adjust his running lane. Okay. Or recording a tackle within three Yards of the line of scrimmage. That's a run stop win. And guess who has the most of them? Dallas Cowboys Quinn Williams.

[J.J. Watt]

Wow, James, these people that just make up new things. Like, this is like. Like I've seen like. Like there's like. You know, you should see the EPA.

[Pat McAfee]

On these run stop wins.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

In the grades on the trees.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Seth Walter says that. Do we know who that guy is?

[Darius Butler]

Is that a real guy?

[J.J. Watt]

He's a graph man. That's the only thing we know. The guy just makes grass.

[Pat McAfee]

No, a lot of them. Is that what he does? Because he gave Colts a D in a Jetson A.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, if it's not coming from Bill Bar Barnwell, then you don't need to.

[Pat McAfee]

Worry about what it says.

[AP Tone]

Thank you, Ty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

Gump's a big Bill Barnwell guy. I did not expect Gump from the back saying, whoa, whoa, whoa. Bill Barnwell will tell us the truth in this entire thing. Jj, how's Burnley? How's Espanol?

[A.J. Hawk]

We're doing good.

[J.J. Watt]

Espanol suffered a loss midweek.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, no, we're doing good.

[J.J. Watt]

We're in sixth right now. Burnley's got West Ham coming up this weekend. And we got Villa Real. Via Real Villa. Real.

[AP Tone]

Real good squad.

[J.J. Watt]

So it'll be good. But Burnley, West Ham will be a great one. And Espanol is another shot. Life is good.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it is good.

[J.J. Watt]

Wisconsin is going out of the relegation. Sold. Don't. We don't need to go there. Burnley. Burnley's out of the relegation zone. Espanol's in six. That's good.

[Pat McAfee]

Burnley's out of relegation. We're going to stay up with the big. Okay, Burnley, let's go.

[AP Tone]

Schedule to start the season. You guys been playing? Playing well.

[Pat McAfee]

Gumpy, what are your thoughts on Espanol maybe going on a run after taking on Villarreal this weekend? They should.

[AP Tone]

Villarreal is playing midweek, so you could get him a little bit tired rotating some changes.

[Pat McAfee]

Espanol bounces back this weekend.

[AP Tone]

Gotta beat West Ham if you're Burnley. West Ham struggling.

[Pat McAfee]

Is Burnley still parking it or not parking it? I forget what their problem was. They would have the lead and then they wouldn't park it. And then the other team would just blow right through them.

[AP Tone]

I'll tell you what, I'm not you. This Burnley team's playing some good, good footy.

[Pat McAfee]

Really?

[AP Tone]

They are.

[Pat McAfee]

They are much better than when they.

[AP Tone]

Were up in the prem the last time around.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, how about Espanol? What do we think of Espanol Obviously, they were like third in all of the Spanish. Yep, there it is. La Liga. Are they still up there? What style of play do they have and are they exciting?

[AP Tone]

They're very impressive to watch their top six, hopefully maybe Champions League or Europa League for JJ's boys.

[Pat McAfee]

Champions League, Yeah.

[J.J. Watt]

We got. We got the boys rolling over there in Spain, man. We got Perry M.I.A. that's. We are. We're living good. We're living good in Barcelona right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you. You've never been a part of Champions League. Obviously that has to be massive for ownership if you get in the Champions League, I would assume.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah, I mean, obviously, that is. That is the ultimate goal to be playing European football and everything that comes with it. So.

[Pat McAfee]

He saw dollars, he just saw dollar signs. Look at that face.

[J.J. Watt]

You got to be real careful because that's when people get in trouble. You make it and then you're like, oh, my God. Gosh, you got all this cash, throw it back in. And then like, it's. You got to be. The business side of this has been really, really fun and a lot.

[Boston Connor]

Bank account.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[J.J. Watt]

No, you don't put it. You do it smart so that you can sustain yourself. You've seen. We've seen teams go and play in Champions League ball and get relegated. Like, you got to be really smart.

[AP Tone]

A lot more games during the week.

[Pat McAfee]

Your team can get thinned out, get banged up.

[AP Tone]

Like, you got to build depth in your squad to play in those competitions.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You got to make sure you're not just pocketing and looking at the bottom line. J. Okay.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah. Trust me. You know, there ain't no pocketing anything going on over here. It's expensive as to run these teams.

[Pat McAfee]

You're the best. You're the absolute greatest hope. You have success in that as you have in everything else in your life. You're the man, ladies and gentlemen. And you're this weekend in Houston. You're in Houston. Houston, yeah.

[J.J. Watt]

We got Houston versus Jaguars, who are hot on the cold ST tail. 5 and 3, Colts 7 and 2, 7 and 2. But if Berlin slips, if Jags, I mean, who knows, who knows what's happening in this AFC style. They got real interesting after that Pittsburgh game on.

[Pat McAfee]

CAM Little's hitting 68 yard field goals.

[J.J. Watt]

And how about that?

[Pat McAfee]

They're trading for wide receivers that everybody wants. I mean, Jacksonville is a whole different team than they were. And Houston appeared as if they were going to be on a different trajectory there for a couple weeks. C.J. d.J. Stroud gets hurt. Kind of change that Conversation, I guess, huh? That's kind of. Everybody's just out on the Texas all of a sudden.

[J.J. Watt]

I mean it's, it's tough, man. The Texans defense right now is literally playing like a historic defense in the NFL. Number one in total yards, number one total points. Like they're doing everything possible. It's just they're not. They've had 10 attempts to score from inside the two yard line this year and they've scored on zero of them 10 times inside the two yard line. So scored zero.

[Pat McAfee]

That's heartbreaking.

[J.J. Watt]

You have to be able to put the ball in the end zone, man. Yeah, but that's, that's what's going on there. The defense is playing phenomenal. So I'm really looking forward to seeing that. And if you wouldn't mind letting the Jaguars fans know because they saw the announcer pairing come out and they were not happy that I was calling the Texans game and they think it's going to be a one sided fest. So if you wouldn't mind calming them down because they're my mentions already.

[Pat McAfee]

I told him I, I said here earlier listening to you call the massive TJ Watt success and Steelers game against the Colts. I didn't think you were. There was one time you said we very ecstatically and I was like, okay, I'm going to red zone. Scott Hansen's getting my ears going forward. But that was at the very end. That was at the very end because.

[J.J. Watt]

Then you said well I said we about us. When you kicked the onside against us, I said we. And Ian had to remind me that I have to tell people that I played for the Texans. He was like, when you say we you mean. I said the Texans.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh yeah, because you went to Arizona. We talked about that. But on that note, I think you do a very good job of calling it. You also, also, you got good moxy in there, brother. It is entertaining listening to you kind of go about doing your thing and the energy alongside Mr. Eagle there is fantastic as well. I think you're crushing it. We're proud of you.

[J.J. Watt]

I appreciate it. I appreciate you guys very much. I learned a lot from y'.

[Darius Butler]

All.

[J.J. Watt]

So I, I try and take some of your guys fun and energy and banter with me as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I see Ash J is still going. It's a good one. You should continue to do that especially because we can learn more about one of the greatest of all time. And all I need you to do is go to keep my network networks.com and maybe you can continue to watch.

[J.J. Watt]

Post it from the sauna. Next time do it from the sauna.

[Pat McAfee]

194 in there, bro.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah.

[J.J. Watt]

Love it. Love it.

[Pat McAfee]

That's really hot.

[J.J. Watt]

I do. I got the red light in the sauna and cold every day. I love it. That sauna is no joke.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't. Red light. I got the, the rocks. The rocks where I'm tossing.

[J.J. Watt]

No, I. No, I don't do the red light. I don't do infrared. I do real sauna. With you. I'm with you. I don't, I don't. I'm not an infrared guy.

[Pat McAfee]

They say. Oh, you do red light after the sauna.

[A.J. Hawk]

Q face thing. Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You still doing that? Looks like it.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, I'm doing it. I got. I got the tower now. I got the tower.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, wow.

[Boston Connor]

Wow.

[AQ Shipley]

Full body. Stand there naked. 10 minutes each side.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, hold on, sir. What's happening?

[Darius Butler]

Visual.

[A.J. Hawk]

You put your arms out like that like you're Jesus.

[Pat McAfee]

Like a spray tan. Are you staying there for 10 minutes? Oh, yeah.

[A.J. Hawk]

Should got to be.

[Pat McAfee]

So tired and it's going to stand.

[J.J. Watt]

Why do you stand there with your arms out?

[A.J. Hawk]

You spread your feet.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow.

[A.J. Hawk]

Sure they get that.

[Pat McAfee]

You never know. You never know what you're going to need. Honestly, this is what you're saving your network for.

[J.J. Watt]

People make sure you get that on your network. Sign the petition.

[Pat McAfee]

We're talking about health and wellness here. And obviously you take that. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen. J.J. w. That was an aggressive move by you. I will say on television was good though. Well, it's authentic.

[A.J. Hawk]

Save someone's life.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you're a method act, man. He just went right back into that infrared full body scanner and said, what do I normally do? Well, I do this and then I do this and then I normally do this for a little bit. Kind of get a little insides kind of get it going. All right. Frankie Luvu suspension was lifted and now he's just getting a hundred thousand dollar fine. My source says from the league aren't happy.

[Ty Schmidt]

Really?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. That the suspension has been lifted. They think it is a very dangerous play. They are taking a very serious seriously. The NFL heard what BA said yesterday about how it's not good. It's even more dangerous than the horse collar. And if we listen to what Jim Harbaugh said about it, whenever the rule was kind of being initiated and I think now we all kind of see what they are referring to whenever this tackle happens. So I think the league is very much like, hey, we need to get this style of Tackle out of the game. And obviously it was put up for review. Former player Derek Brooks. Derek Brooks overturned a suspension and gave $100,000 fine, which is a lot of money. Obviously that is still a lot of money in the fine. Oh yeah. But yeah, the NFL I guess is not necessarily thrilled that that was lifted from a one game suspension because they would like this completely out of the game. So they think precedent has to be set. I assume Derek Brooks said $100,000 is a lot of money. Frankie Louville will change the way he tackles. So it's an interesting dynamic here on what they're trying to make the game and what they're trying to not make the game.

[Boston Connor]

Well then they have to call it like if you're not going to throw the flag. None of these are flags. Like he doesn't get called one time time for it. And I mean, believe me, I don't want to see more flags. I don't want the refs more involved in it. But like how are you going to find a guy or it's not fine, but how are you going to suspend a guy when none of it gets called in game? Like doesn't that kind of have to change the in game refereeing that?

[Pat McAfee]

A.J. hawk, your thoughts on it all? Obviously we've been. That's so nasty right there. We've. We've all been a part, we have as a show been a part of this becoming a rule. This would have been the first ever suspension for it. Your thoughts?

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah, I don't, I think sometimes it's not necessary to do this. I obviously you got to change the way you tackle. It looks so dangerous. But some of them, especially like this one, I don't think. Yeah, I could have seen this one called. That one looks so nasty because you could have gone through him and tried to go through the quarterback instead of pulling him back on top of you. Yeah, I don't, I don't think he has any ill like intent but it does these ones. I think sometimes you can definitely avoid these.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And I think it's his style of tackling which we went back to. Like James Harrison. Like James Harrison whenever they were changing what the rules were, he got like $750,000 in fines back whenever $750,000 was and still is a massive number. But I'm saying like back in the day when that was happening, it was huge. But they were transforming how people had to tackle. And James Harrison, since he's a little kid playing youth football, only tackled one way and then he Gets the league. They're like, we're not doing that anymore. And he's like, well, what am I supposed to do? And now he is teaching his son, hey, you're going to do what that did because this is football. Let's make sure we remember that. But you can do it differently. In what the NFL saw was, although at the beginning it was a huge wave of, oh, no, we're not going to be able to do it. An entire generation of football players change the way they tackle, change the way they do everything. And it's like this is almost what they're trying to do with the hip drop tackle, even though there's not as many people that use the hip drop tackle style. Maybe like Frankie Luvu.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

And it's tough.

[Darius Butler]

And I understand why the league will be upset because this is a very dangerous play. But I do love the move of just finding 100k and then letting them play. Because every game is not like the NBA or the NBA, ML or mlb. Every game matters so much. So I do like the decision by Derek Brooks, but Louisville definitely has to change the way he's tackling. And 100. 100 grand. That'll, that'll, that'll get you. That'll get you learned real quick.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. 100 grand's a lot of money. Yeah. I mean, to anybody. Oh, yeah, Anybody at this point, 100 grand. Still a lot of money. But the NFL is very much like, this can't be. Because those are nasty injuries too. They look nasty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[A.J. Hawk]

You know, those are worse than those feel worse than a horse collar for sure to me.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And BA mentioned that he's like, it's like a horse collar, but it's even worse because you got a full body on the bottom of it. And those are also the injuries that, you know, get picked up by people that aren't football fans. Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Those could be career altering.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. It's just all not good for the NFL and for the football. So they're trying to change that. Derek Brooks, like 100,000 seems fair. They didn't even throw a flag on it. But if he doesn't stop, we'll obviously take the next steps. We're trying to set a little precedent here. We're here on ESPN currently. We'll be off in about 11 seconds or so. You can join us digitally. We're live on YouTube, ESPN plus Disney plus and TikTok live. This show is dumb. The fact that you watch is even more crazy. Have a good one. Goodbye. That might be the best send off.

[Boston Connor]

I'VE ever. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Might be. Might be the best one ever. But I do appreciate the fact that I, you know, reach out to the NFL and like, hey, heard you guys. This little punishment got lifted, you know, and they're like, yeah, not happy.

[Darius Butler]

This is so mad.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, like legit. Like.

[Boston Connor]

Like they.

[Pat McAfee]

Because they don't want it in the game. You know, like, that is infographic.

[A.J. Hawk]

The only way you can work on for Lulu, though, is in a game, because guess what? He's not tackling like that in practice, especially during the season. You're not taking people to the ground like that. That's not happening.

[Pat McAfee]

But with how natural he is at doing it, it's clear, like, this is how this guy made it to the NFL problem. Like, this is his style of football. And it's like, buddy, you're just Clay Matthews right now. You're James Harrison right now.

[Darius Butler]

You saw it with Kareem Jackson. So Kareem Jackson. James has been suspended, but Kareem Jackson, for lack of a better. He was like a headhunter. It was like an old school throwback. Like, you come across the middle, you. You throw a high ball like you're going to pay for it. And he played that way until. Until it was over. He. He suspended what, like three games?

[Boston Connor]

I think three or four.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

Like, which was.

[Darius Butler]

Which is crazy NFL talk when you're talking about something that's happening between the lines. So I understand why the NFL wanted out for player safety, but I do love that this shows that there is a real process, that it's not just the NFL just dropping a hammer and say, hey, this is how it's going to be. Forget what anybody else says. So I do love that part of.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the NFL not liking it.

[Darius Butler]

Exactly. Yeah. I think that's for players for sure. For sure.

[Pat McAfee]

We should be taking a victory lap.

[Darius Butler]

Absolutely.

[Pat McAfee]

It's terrible that it's happening, but the players should be like, yeah, okay, we have some power.

[A.J. Hawk]

Like, we have some, like, we have some recourse if they want to punish us. We have a little bit. Way to fight.

[Pat McAfee]

Way to point that out, actually.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I didn't even think about that. That's a great. Like, this is the first time have we ever heard the NFL be like.

[Darius Butler]

We don't like it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I've got to think about it because it's usually you think like, okay, it's judge, jury, executioner, but to have somebody at the table that can say, okay, nah.

[Pat McAfee]

Checks back.

[Darius Butler]

Louis, like, he's. He's a guy, he brings the energy. Every, you know, whatever, whatever your thoughts is on the commander's defense, that's your thoughts. But he's one of their guys that they rally behind for sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's talk about some other news around the NFL. A little bit better news. Drake May was doing a Q and A at Bryant University, which is in Rhode Island. Rhode island, which is obviously in New England. Listen to this reaction for Drake May. That's sick. Let's go to Connor. I mean, the Drake's new king of New England. Oh, yeah, alongside Tatum, obviously, and all the boys for the Celtics. Feels like this is the next generation of sports stars up there and shout out to having the perfect guy. Feels like he's humble, he can handle it. This isn't something that is going to change the way he operates. And all he's doing is getting better and better. I love that you guys are all the way on board from beginning and bottom of the revolution region all the way to the top. Is this kind of what you were sensing from the beginning of the Drake May era?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, it's incredible. I mean, definitely didn't think it happened this quick, but that goes back to Mike Vrabel. And you know, you mentioned Tatum, Joe Missoula, like the leaders of all the four main, you know, franchises. Alex Cora, the Red Sox, I mean, Marco Stern for the Bruins. The Bruins are actually outperforming how everyone thought they were going to. To do like the head coaches at all these stops is kind of my whole entire thing is why I think everyone's very confident in the sustained success. Because, you know, Drake May, hopefully He plays for 20 years and hopefully Mike Vrabel is his head coach for all 20 of those years. And then there's clips coming out of Rabel going up to Drake May right before their last drive where they kind of ice the game before, you know, taking the victory formation. And it's variable going up to him saying like, hey, all the shit that happened before this drive doesn't matter. Like, go get a first down. Let's win the game. Let's get out of here. And we're seven and two. So people loving Drake May, incredible. Him being only 23 years old, incredible. But more, more. So Mike Vrabel doing this on Sunday.

[Pat McAfee]

We're gonna need one drive. So everything that's happened doesn't matter. We're gonna need one drive to win the game. I don't know what is wrong.

[J.J. Watt]

Drop it's going to be.

[Pat McAfee]

We're going to beat one more drive all right. One drop, man. One drop. Okay. And Dig's getting in there. Some good leadership. And Dig said, I don't know how VRA got me to buy in, but I'm all the way in. But buying in, obviously a big deal. Leadership a big deal. But Drake may be in the right guy for it all. Seems like a perfect fit. And you saw it from him whenever you golf. One round with him after Clyde Christianson, who's former Indianapolis Colts coach. Right, right, right. He's been around a long time. Peyton, Andrew, Tom, you name it. He was at North Carolina. It's his alma mater. I believe he was going back there because family to live closer after a life of coaching the NFL. And he told us when Drake May was coming out, this is the guy. He's Peyton.

[J.J. Watt]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

But he's also very athletic. I mean, he led us in rushing. Right. I mean, you're talking about everything that's right about a quarterback. This guy, he's the youngest brother, got older brothers, very competitive. He's not the only successful guy. He's been there, he's been popular. He's been big man on campus for, like, the last three years here in North Carolina. There's nothing that's gonna rattle him or change him. That's what Clyde Christensen was saying. Then you went in golf with him, and you came back an hour later, sat down on our set, and was like, drake Mays the number one guy. It does feel like he's the perfect guy for all of this.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah. Cause it's one thing to be the big man on campus, and I think it's another thing to be kind of the little brother and kind of look up to kind of who? The people you see as your heroes, whether it be your dad or your big brothers or your uncles, your sisters, your mom, just a bunch of athletes, and you kind of become that little brother, and then you get thrust into this limelight. And like, all these quarterbacks, like all the great ones that we either played with or cheered for, they're all very different. They're all themselves. They're all unique. They're obviously all talented, but him being himself, and then that little clip from Vrabel, like, it seems like a small thing. That's a big thing. Because a lot of times in these high pressure situations, especially young players, it can be kind of like too much. And a lot of times it's the coaches on the sideline that make it worse. You know, they're panicking or they're trying to get so just to have a Head coach come over there and say, hey, I trust you. Settle down. Whatever happened, happened. We just need one drive. And then I've seen clips of even Diggs being miked up, going up to the coach being like, hey, anything you want me to echo and get it back and around the team. So when you have vets that are buying in, you know, variables, doing things right. But we talk about with jets, none of it matters if you don't figure out at the quarterback position, it looks like he's figured it out. And whatever, whatever role you play on this New England Patriots team, you will be a king in the New England area. Like, if you are a Patriot, it didn't matter. Like, I'm sure it was like this in Green Bay or in Pittsburgh. You can be the 52nd man on the roster. You're going to be going and getting a few grand for the rest of your life, signing autographs whenever you want. So I love what he's doing. And obviously, you know, they, they're used to championships up there and they look like they have the right pieces in place to go and get another one.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you become a made man in Pittsburgh as well. That's why that 2005 team going back to Pittsburgh this weekend was such a big deal, I think, and an influence on the current team. But New England has had so much success and just getting a chance to relive that through. Drake May has to be special. What are they calling them?

[Boston Connor]

I saw it on the Internet. I really wish I kind of thought of it first, but a mobile Matt Stafford, and it's basically to a T. I mean, AQ brought up one of his throws against the Saints where he's stepping up off. Off the wrong foot. Just a little flick touchdown. And I'll tell you what, it looked a lot like mess.

[Pat McAfee]

Drake May passes Patrick Mahomes for longest streak of games at 200 plus pass yards and 100 plus passer rating by a player under the age of 24. He's under 24 still. Oh, yeah. Eight of them straight. And they're only roll and A.J. what do you think about the culture that VRA was setting? Are the Patriots for real? The Patriots are for real. Drake May's number two in the MVP odds right now.

[Boston Connor]

Still playing the jets twice.

[J.J. Watt]

Jeez.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah. I mean, when you. It shows. It shows how valuable it is. When you figure out that if you're. You're drafting a quarterback in the first round, it pays to get it right. When you get it right. And then you pair that up with Mike Vrabel and what he has done throughout. Throughout that whole team. Yeah, like, that's why the Patriots are rolling and watching Drake walk in. Like, that's pretty awesome, man. Like, that's such a New England thing, too. Like, those. These college kids chanting MVP for him. Like, he said he didn't expect it. Like, it's a good time to be a Patriot. I feel like right now it probably will for, you know, the next 10, 12, 15 years, it looks like.

[Boston Connor]

And that's why no matter what, no matter how you feel about the crafts, like, it took balls to fire Gerard Mayo after one year. Like, it really did, because Vrabel was out there and Drake May might still be Drake May, whether, you know, Mayo was there or not. But If Mayo's there, McDaniels isn't there. And McDaniels is a huge reason of his success. And. And not to mention, like, Doug Marone, who's the O line coach, coach now. Huge reason for the offensive line success, like, for the crafts. Truthfully, hats off, because it was nothing without that.

[Pat McAfee]

When he said McDaniels, he gave a big point. You love what they're doing with Draco.

[AQ Shipley]

That's exactly where I was going to go next. Scheme and fit are everything, and McDaniels is back to doing the same stuff they did when Brady was there. It's fullback. It's, hey, let's start with the run game. Let's get the play action going, let's get him easy throws early, get his confidence up, and then let's take the shots. And he has the ability to take the shots. They've gotten better with the O line. You mentioned Doug Marone. That's one of the biggest hirings all off season. Former head coach, O line guru. Right. Like, he comes in there after having Scarneckia there for so many years as the O line coach, took a step backwards, get Marone back in. Now they're playing at a high level.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I love the thought of McDaniels going back up there, having success and already taste in what a head coaching was like and being like, nah, I don't. Yeah, I'm. I'm. I'm good. We're just kind of chilling here. Family likes it here. I mean, we. We've seen a lot of places. Yeah, we turned a plane around, obviously, going to Indy, but we went out to Denver. We did some other stuff, and we're good here. Especially with how good Drake May is going to be. I think BA almost had that mindset with Andrew Luck. Now, BA hadn't been a head coach a couple different times with have it failing whenever Andrew Luck became the offense coordinator. But BA was with Andrew's rookie year. And I think if you asked ba, BA would have been good with just. All right, we'll just do this now. I'm getting offered some other stuff, so I'm going to need a little bit bit more. You can go ahead and find that somewhere else. All right, I'll go be a head coach, I guess Arizona Cardinals, and then I'll be a head coach Tampa Buccaneers and I'll win a Super Bowl. But some of those coordinators, they do see something and they see what their life has been. It's like, this is a happy life for my family now. Yeah, I'm gonna get paid a couple million bucks here and we're gonna have success. We're gonna be hunting for it. Maybe they stick around up there, especially.

[Darius Butler]

Playing with it for defensive hick or not an office. Like, it's, it's. It's your. It's your show. Like you run the show like we trust you with the offense. He and obviously Josh McDaniels, he's man. A made man in New England. He's won multiple Super Bowls, you know, coach Tom Brady, all the good things. But like, yeah, when you have that pairing, obviously that was the pairing with Bill and all the different OCS that came through. I'm sure OC's probably like that with that. That relationship as well.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, so those are some takeaways from the week. Let's go to AQ takeaways from week nine of the NFL season. Here we go. Brissette's brilliance on Big D. Obviously you're the Arizona Cardinals color commentator. Had a. Had a big one on Monday night. Is those of us that couldn't watch on YouTube TV, listen to your call. And that's kind of how we survive through it also. We appreciate you doing that. But you're saying on Big Don's Brissette showcases brilliance. What do you mean by that?

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, he's been great on third down. I think a lot of times I mentioned it earlier, you just run a screen or hand it off on a draw. They. They run pressure right here. First third down of the game. Watch the subtle move left. Put it right on Marvin Harrison Jr. And by the way, he was fantastic in this game. They target him early and often. Next clip right here. Again, bring the blitz. You get the overload, right? Check out this blitz. D butts. They're going to drop out the Left and bring the db. Get the overload to the right. There comes the db. Sit in the pocket and deliver another one.

[Pat McAfee]

Trusted it, trusted it.

[AQ Shipley]

That was third and ten. Huge gain. 15 yard gain this last one. 18 yard gain on third down again. Here it is, five man rush. That's another blitz. Sit in the pocket, feel the pressure, deliver it on time. Dimes.

[Pat McAfee]

Feels like there's one guy, he's throwing that ball to a lot. Jacoby Seat, he's. We got man out there. We got Marvin Harrison Jr. Yeah, we should throw him the ball. Yeah, but he dropped the ball early. Yeah, but also he didn't do the combine, he didn't do the meetings. And we still draft him really hot. Cause this guy is a freak show. They're really finding it out there. It feels like.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I love it when you build that continuity, you build that trust with the young wide receiver and the quarterback. Same thing with Trey McBride. Like when you build that with them. Because you wanted more out of Marvin Harrison since coming into the league. You see these young wide receivers take over early. So get him going. His pops came out and say, hey, I don't know what the going on out there. So they figured it out. I'd love to see what I see him.

[Pat McAfee]

Some of them brilliant. I mean, there's been a lot of conversation about what goes on over there. Jacoby Brissette, incredible leader. And I think everybody's feeling it in the building is what Peter Schrager said. What's your next takeaway Coming out of Week 9 of the NFL season, Aouch Darnold dropping dimes.

[AQ Shipley]

He started, he started this game 16 of 16. He was unbelievable. Let's take a look at this first play right here. Hits a Arroyo, the rookie tight end. Watch this ball just over. Look at that scene. How good is that? And there's about 16 clips like that in this game. I only chose three here. Let's look at this next one. Sit back, sit back. Watch this little hitch. Drop it to JSN on this island. Just drops it in a bucket.

[Darius Butler]

This last 12 minute too.

[AQ Shipley]

Let's take a look at. Gray's able to left guard first. Let's take a look at this one. He recognizes. Oh, we got a dropper. Boom. Get him out of the way. Step left. Hit the 7 route to the rookie Horton. Unbelievable.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Sam Darnold special. That what they're doing on the road too is insane. Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

111 warriors.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. On the road. And this is long ass trip. I mean D.C. seattle. That's a long Ass trip. They look more prepared than anybody else. McDonald's an incredible leader. Darnold, perfect quarterback for them.

[AQ Shipley]

He's incredible. And they are the best in the National Football League. Kubak comes in as the offensive coordinator. They are leading the league in play action pass. It's incredible what they've been doing.

[Pat McAfee]

Good for Sam Darnold, by the way. We've talked about it a lot of times. Good for Sam Darl. We thought he was going to Seattle a dis disappear. Yeah, he thought there was a chance that was going to happen. They had completely different mindset. They're taking over over there in the NFC West. And then obviously your big takeaway number one is. Sorry, Curtain call.

[AQ Shipley]

Curtain call.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Still.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

Let's take a look.

[Pat McAfee]

They played like steel Curtain, didn't they?

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

Two batted balls right in a row. 36 years old. Cam Hayward. Look at this. Stops a touchdown batted pass. That's the first guy. Now let's get to the next one. Here we go, Mr. T.J. watt.

[Pat McAfee]

Little.

[AQ Shipley]

Do you see that? Let's. Can we run that back? Back real quick. Watch him fake the long arm, then go to the dip and rip. Goes right around sack. Fumble and recover.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, baited butter right there.

[Darius Butler]

Got him.

[AQ Shipley]

Unbelievable. Now let's go to the other side.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I'm just saying why are they doing it against us?

[AQ Shipley]

Sorry. Here it comes again. Other side. High Smith. This looks familiar, right? Dip and rip. Go around sack.

[Pat McAfee]

So. So honestly, I was watching them get beat, like turn styles against U.S. team. You know, you just showcased a couple of them here. Our offensive line. Line has been good. Is this the depth issue with quarterback? Is this just a pure pressure? Like what is it? Why do you think this happened on this particular game versus maybe every other game this season?

[AQ Shipley]

So I think their tackles were a little soft and they didn't do as much play action with the chipping and all that stuff, which I'm really confused about because they got some of the best edge rushers in the game. The other thing inside, Quentin Nelson always struggles against the Steelers for whatever reason. If you look over the years, he's always struggled against Cam Hayward and Fletcher Cox both what Big powerful dudes in the middle. So I think he puts. Puts a little bit too much onus on trying to sit and then get swim. And then there you go, you get the battle ball, you get the sack, you get whatever it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Cam Hayward's a beast. Been around a long time.

[AQ Shipley]

Monster.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. He's one of the pillars of the Pittsburgh Steelers that's why they had to get a deal done with him before the season started. But their D line played like, you know, I would assume Steelers fans thought with the amount of money that they've given to them exactly how they would have hoped they would play all season. Let's head to Hammer. Don. Don, what do you think about the Steel Curtain call? AP Tone yeah, it's awesome.

[AP Tone]

And AQ highlighted the guys on the outside in Highsmith and Watt. But like he talked about Cam who's 97, 95 Keanu Benton and 99 Derek Harmon, our first round pick, like they were awesome as well. So the three in the middle stopped the run and then the edges were able to pin their ears back and get to Danny Dime. So like if we can do that.

[AQ Shipley]

Super Bowl, I think there's a sack on there of 95. I think this is the clip right here actually against Guns Zolvis look at that move. Little Reggie White inside hump Moons.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean that looks like teach tape there on how to use your hands, especially in the middle of a line. Jalen Ramsey playing safety and Tomlin committing to that or Jalen committing to safety going forward because of injuries. What does that do for the Steelers defense?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, I like Jalen Ramsey. I love him as a, as a defensive player, period. He can play the slot, he can play outside, he can play safety. At this stage in his career, I'm sure he would probably want to pick, pick one and just because he's such a smart player. So when you can see the game and prepare and game plan and do all that watch cut ups, whatever you're doing from one position that you're going to be playing majority, that can make you much more impactful. But you got to stay healthy and you got to have guys that are talented enough to hold up on the edge.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ The Steelers defense always been good. You know, that's why the Steel Curtain is a real thing. Pittsburgh defense, like a defense Pittsburgh, it's just kind of what you think about honestly. Bill Car obviously his team's great defense. Talk about that. You go all the way through this Tomlin era, it's all like always have good defense. He spent a lot of money. Pittsburgh's expecting good defense. They spent a lot of money on good defense. So when they don't have great defense at the beginning of the season, there is calls for fire alarms to be pulled. They show up like this. Do you think this is what they're going to look like the rest of the way?

[A.J. Hawk]

AJ Hawk yeah, I think sometimes you know, like what, six turnovers. Coaches always say turnovers come in bunches to start getting them and then bam, they will continue to show up. I think as a defense, you can kind of like build momentum and have games like this that are pivotal games that we look back on after the season and you think like, okay, we finally started to put it together and that was one game where we figured out where a lot of it clicked in a lot of our guys heads of, hey, this is what we are. This is what we are capable of doing.

[Pat McAfee]

It's good breakdown.

[Darius Butler]

Do you take any ownership of giving him the rat poison and finally putting.

[AQ Shipley]

Listen, I. Some people got to learn how to handle success. You know, whenever you get success, you got to hit, handle it. You got to show up the next week. They. They laid an egg. I don't know what to tell you. That's not my fault.

[Pat McAfee]

Tone, final thoughts.

[AP Tone]

Yeah, a couple unsung heroes. Peyton Wilson, I believe he's had 13 tackles back to back weeks. He's 41. He's the one who batted it, coming off the edge that Jack Sawyer caught and then. Trade deadline didn't happen yesterday. It happened last week. Got Kyle Duggar from the Patriots. He played, I think like 74 of 75 snaps or something, 68 of 69, something like that. He came in, didn't hear his name once in a bad way in the game on Sunday. So him and R.A. ramsey at the safety positions really kind of shirred things up.

[Pat McAfee]

Congrats to you. Steelers fans. Back on the wagon, right? Age. I don't know if you know that they're winning the super bowl again.

[A.J. Hawk]

The Steelers.

[Pat McAfee]

Yep.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah, I feel that. I felt that. I mean, you could tell on Tone's face, like, yeah, that's what they think.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you get a text or anything about not picking the Steelers this weekend?

[A.J. Hawk]

I did not actually know. I forgot I didn't pick him.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you took the Colts. We all.

[A.J. Hawk]

I told you I got to take the.

[Stanford Steve]

I said I got to.

[A.J. Hawk]

I was a believer of the Colts. I was like, I gotta pick him now until they prove to me that I shouldn't pick them.

[Pat McAfee]

I guess you remember last time whenever we were out in Utah, they were chanting, fire Canada. A lot of Steelers fans in Utah. Okay. I think that's just. I don't know why. I don't know if Pittsburgh has marketed Utah, but it feels like there's a lot of Steelers fans out there every time we go out there. So many Steelers fans on my way off stage, out of there, going like, tomorrow we got the Colts, and I go, we might hang 50 on you. We might like, literally just so matter of fact, that's all I was talking about. Talking like, hey, this Colts offense, absolute juggernaut. Your defense not good, right? Isn't that kind of what's been happening? We might run wild on all those people watching that Steelers game. They thought the same thing going into it. Gingers won't admit it, but they were definitely all thinking the same exact thing. Holy. We're going to lose by 60 to this Colts team. Our defense can't stop a nosebleed. There's no chance we're going to be able to do that. Then five turns, turnovers. They're swarming all over the place. They got sacks and bunches. They got the boys going crazy. The 2005 teams in there, Yansers are like, just. I can't believe the Indianapolis Colts thought they were going to come here. What fucking asshole said that was going to happen? It's like everybody was thinking that now. Fully different trajectory and it might be the 2005.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I think that's the X factor. I know. It definitely played a role. I don't care if it was college or pro. Like, if you have a whole team of your guys who came in and kind of, you know, hey, this is the standard. Obviously, it still is still. Curtain goes way back, but carry the baton. Yeah, this is.

[AQ Shipley]

These are.

[Darius Butler]

We got Dick LeBeau in the building. We got all these legends, and the Steelers already do a great job of keeping those guys around. Yeah, those guys are going to play better. I didn't think they were going to show back up as a legit. Still curtain, but they definitely.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a lot of people showing up for. Yeah, like, that's a lot of people showing up for legends. And that makes sense for Pittsburgh. Like, it just makes sense for the entire. Hey, Q. A lot of happiness these dudes brought to our lives.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, they sure did. And I got to play with some of them when I got drafted there. I mean, look at big Casey Hampton. He looks like he can still play.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he certainly can. He actually looks better than me.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, he does.

[AQ Shipley]

Looks incredible.

[Pat McAfee]

Casey had to do what Casey had to do. I also think Casey, after the amount of respect we have for sumo wrestling, I think we can speak on this. Casey Hampton would have been a grand master champion sumo wrestler, I think, if he would have known about the sport. I think with his leverage, his ability to do his thing. Look at Fanica. That guy was, what, down to, like, 135 pounds at one point because he was running Iron man. Yeah, things like that. Good squad, Jeffrey. Just being right in the middle of the staff, I do love. Yes, I'll continue.

[Darius Butler]

Shout out B man, Aaron Smith.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah, there he is, up right.

[AQ Shipley]

Travis Kirsy. Big hokey, up top.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, I like it.

[AQ Shipley]

Kendall Simmons. Remember him?

[Pat McAfee]

I do.

[AQ Shipley]

AJ Hawk.

[Pat McAfee]

Ike T. He doesn't.

[A.J. Hawk]

Aj I'm just looking around. I'm perusing through there. There. Sorry, sorry.

[AQ Shipley]

He's.

[AP Tone]

That's the greatest special teams players dealers have ever had. That's Sean Moray.

[Pat McAfee]

I remember the name. I remember the name. Sean Moray. Great hair.

[Boston Connor]

I like the way Sean 90, 91. Could still play as well.

[AP Tone]

That's Aaron.

[AQ Shipley]

Aaron Smith. Greatest 34 defensive end of all time right there.

[Pat McAfee]

Great jawline too. That guy looks like he just got done roping. Jesus Christ, what a dog. Larry Foot, bottom left.

[AQ Shipley]

Jeff Harding's up top, right in the middle behind Reed.

[AP Tone]

Dan Crider. Right there in the middle.

[Stanford Steve]

Number seven. Three five.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Who's number three?

[Pat McAfee]

Jeffrey? Kicker. That was kicker.

[Boston Connor]

See, he then went on to become the lead singer of Creed.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, actually, he looks sweet. Jeff Reed. Exactly. Hey, everything you think, everything you're thinking right now, awesome. Jeff Reed is. Yes. Just by looking at him. Yes, he is everything.

[Darius Butler]

Legend.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he is. Made a lot of kicks for the Pittsburgh Steelers. A lot of kicks for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Ty Schmidt]

And realist, Tommy Gunn and Chuck Pagano are the same person. Yeah, they look identical.

[Pat McAfee]

I guess. Tommy Gun Maddox, top left corner there 8. Quarterback, obviously, for team. He does have a little Chuck Pagano in him. I guess he was a super vibes guy in the locker room.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, I don't doubt it.

[Pat McAfee]

I guess Tommy Gunn was a real lightning rod in there. Yeah, I guess he was really the straw potentially in la. Yeah. From what I've been told. I've heard some stuff, stories of some stuff just in the past. Who knows what's real, what isn't. But all of them are like, yup, Tom B. Maddox is awesome, basically, is how they talk about him. That whole team is. And you're right, them being around certainly did something. Wizard Hunt there. I just saw him. I just. That's my first time catching eyes on Wizard Hunter. The amount of legends that are in there. Who? Former GM Kevin Colbert. Right there. Yep. Golly, that's pit. That's our chop. Childhood.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Thanks for showing up, boys. I wish it was a different week. So the hell with Mr. Lawton for scheduling that for the Colts weekend. Can we have that Be enough. Hey, homecoming weekend. Can we do another one? Can we do another weekend? Maybe not. The Indianapolis Colts let us kind of have our thing and do our thing here. That would have been great. Let's take a break. On the other side, Stanford. Steve will be joining us for another college football convo. And I'll tell you what, with the College Football Playoff committee's first bracket reveal, there's gonna be a lot talk about AJ Hawk, who's sitting in number one.

[A.J. Hawk]

I think that's the Ohio State Buckeyes.

[Pat McAfee]

They played anybody? I don't know.

[AQ Shipley]

Have they shown up last night?

[Pat McAfee]

They've shown up and dominated everybody. Yeah, they've dominated.

[A.J. Hawk]

Oh, who they play last week. Aq.

[AQ Shipley]

Relax, dude.

[Pat McAfee]

They.

[AQ Shipley]

They played a terrible team last week.

[Boston Connor]

Penn State didn't just shut.

[A.J. Hawk]

I was there. Hey, they got athletes. They got studs, man. They look good. And like, they look. They look the part.

[J.J. Watt]

They look good.

[Pat McAfee]

They look the part against Oregon, too. Remember, that goes a couple overtimes.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

They win that game. Who knows where we're at right now?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, they're probably ranked number three or four in the.

[Pat McAfee]

In the playoffs, because then they probably beat ucla, certainly beat Iowa. Then they beat Northwestern at home.

[AQ Shipley]

Then they play Ohio State when they got a Heisman Trophy candidate and they.

[Pat McAfee]

Just let him run by him all.

[AQ Shipley]

Day long like he didn't know he could run, like they didn't know he could get behind the deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, they trust our guys.

[AQ Shipley]

They were calling quarters.

[Pat McAfee]

They trust their guys.

[AP Tone]

Wait till you see this highlight of the linebacker come up. Orville Reese.

[Pat McAfee]

He's the guy. What number is he?

[AQ Shipley]

Eight?

[AP Tone]

Yeah, so there's.

[A.J. Hawk]

There's about.

[AP Tone]

There's about to be an offensive play here. Jeremiah Smith, obviously, one hand, he's insane. And then you get this sick look, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah.

[A.J. Hawk]

He's gonna be an awesome Pro as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Teach tape.

[A.J. Hawk]

He's like 6 4. Like, 245, too. He's a monster. He's huge.

[Pat McAfee]

You and Sean Perkins before the first college game day, whenever we're there for the Texas game and Texas is back to being who maybe everybody thought they could be. They're like, hey. I was like, sean, who should I say up there? It makes me look like a super genius. He goes, number eight. Arvell Reese, he's the one. I go, sweet. Thank you so much. I go up there, completely forget. Just basically just completely forget. And then I think he had, like, six sacks or something in the first, like, two weeks, something like that. They're like, hey, Arvell, Reese is the guy. I'm like, Sean knew before everybody, and I could have looked like a genius, but instead, I'm riding alongside the wave of holy hell, who's that guy? With everybody else, but you look at their schedule, Desmond Howard makes a point. Now, he's a Michigan guy, so he's always going to make a point about Ohio State. But it is like you guys have just smacked everybody in the mouth, basically. It's just everybody. And it's not your fault. I mean, it's not Ohio State's fault. And they've showed up and dominated everybody. But we don't really know. We don't really. We have no idea. Because everything has looked so damn easy for them. But that might just be who they are. Yeah, they might just do that to everybody. We have no idea. Certainly did to Penn State. What are you guys going to do?

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, we're narrowing it down.

[A.J. Hawk]

Tracking planes, I heard.

[AQ Shipley]

And we're narrowing it.

[Pat McAfee]

All right.

[A.J. Hawk]

Throw your hat in the ring, aq.

[Pat McAfee]

Sorry, Pan. Probably pretty good for that position.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah, tell me. Do it for 15 a year.

[Pat McAfee]

15 hunch. Because you love Penn State.

[Darius Butler]

Just do it for one of those stupid Jeff Landry contracts that he was talking about.

[AQ Shipley]

One of the. One of those.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, just incentivize incentives and being by game.

[Boston Connor]

Someone's a little salty. They don't know Nebraska football.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

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[Pat McAfee]

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[Ty Schmidt]

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[Pat McAfee]

All right? I do this show three times a week. Every single show time, I have to take grooming very, very seriously. Look back in the archives, guys. Look back and see the awful mustache I was trying to trot out last spring.

[Ty Schmidt]

I hate it.

[Pat McAfee]

The other day I recirculated an interview with Drake May. I wanted to CGI it. I wanted to CGI the mustache out. I wanted to AI it. I couldn't. The mustache was there. And now I've got a nice little double perfect length. Going to have this for the rest of my life.

[Ty Schmidt]

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[AQ Shipley]

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[Darius Butler]

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[Boston Connor]

Football.

[Pat McAfee]

This man's a college football national champion. Super bowl champion. A.J. hawk the toxic tables here at Boston Connor. And that's how Schmidt, nine year NFL vet, host of Everything DB, good D, bad D. Darius Burke is here. 12 year NFL vet, Super bowl champion, host of in the Trenches. Top five, top five, top five. AQ Shipley is here. Live from Hammer dad is AP Tone, an accomplished author of college football. And he will certainly be a big piece of what we're about to do. The conversation we're about to have is not like the other ones. No, no. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for another College Football conference combo with Stanford.

[AQ Shipley]

Steve.

[Pat McAfee]

What'S going on? What is.

[A.J. Hawk]

So sweet.

[Ty Schmidt]

Digital camo.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. What's going on? I mean, you look really cool right now. What is. So what do we have here, Steve?

[J.J. Watt]

What is this?

[Ty Schmidt]

Just.

[Stanford Steve]

Just some Navy fear the bones, you know, Jolly Rogers, Little Navy. Big game this week.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell yeah. Hey, Navy. Tough one against North Texas. Not as tough as Tyler Huang with you under the upright, though. You know.

[Stanford Steve]

Know I stand by it.

[AQ Shipley]

Sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

Jonah. Jonah.

[Stanford Steve]

Jonah. Yeah, a lot of kicks I saw this weekend look very similar that were all called no good.

[Pat McAfee]

I appreciate you doing this for the good of the team. I appreciate Herb street bringing out the blockers. I respect the fact that Jonah was a high school kicker, all region going three of five. And I also love the fact that everybody was kind of saying, no. I think it hooked in. And you, you were like, nope. Because I heard everybody in the year going, no, I think it's good. I think it's good. I don't think so, says Stanford. Steve. Everybody in there was saying, it's good, it's good, it's good. And you're like. And then you even went a step further. Yep. That thing actually. Nope. Sorry. About it. That one left, brother. Yeah, that one.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

As this kid's celebrating, Steve's looking him right in his eye. I don't think so, brother. You think that once a review, obviously they counted it from the angles that we had, but I want to let you, you know, I appreciate your integrity. You say with these eyes, I didn't see it go in. And that's what that segment needs, is good integrity in there. So thank you, Stanford Steve.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, I didn't think it was conclusive that, you know, when I went to the review, I didn't, I didn't think it was conclusive. So, yeah, we're moving on. Can't wait till this week. We'll, we'll get after it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

I hope you go to Lubbock.

[Pat McAfee]

I, I, I liked your move. I'm gonna let you know, I do appreciate your move. And if the camera angle wasn't where it was, it might have looked a little different, like maybe was a miss and you're a hero instead. I think you were number 6 or 16th trending topic in the United States of America. And a lot of people were saying, this guy's an. This guy sucks. Yeah, this guy's an. So I, I appreciate you sticking up. And then your tweet later. Well, yeah, that SMU kick looked pretty similar. What was that thing?

[Stanford Steve]

Same thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Steve's got a point. And they said no good there. Steve's like, oh, I'm the, I'm the bad guy. I just, I know. Ball is. What's Steve saying? Oh, we covered the upright, you see. Oh, no, we didn't.

[Darius Butler]

Same kick.

[Pat McAfee]

That's no good.

[Stanford Steve]

Like the same kick.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's no good.

[Pat McAfee]

No good. That is no good. Ty, you're 100 side by side.

[Stanford Steve]

They're both wide right.

[Pat McAfee]

Stanford Steve, you're a good man. We appreciate the hell out of you. Love you, Ste. We also did go to a website, cuz you told us to. Although we don't love that you were told to do that. We went because we love you. We support you, same with Herbie. And just know that Stanford Steve, even though people are saying that you're trying to, you know, rob these kids of money and everything like that, we think you're a good guy. We love you, Steve. We love you, buddy.

[Stanford Steve]

Love you guys, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[J.J. Watt]

Appreciate you.

[Pat McAfee]

You know what else? We love the thought of starting with 12, counting down to one. And last night we got the first bracket from the actual committee that's going to be doing the select of the College Football Playoff. What's your big takeaway from last night, Steve and what should be thinking about? Basically Tone's take was they don't respect Oregon much. It seems like Oregon doesn't have a lot of respect. They're one loss away from potentially being out of this entire thing. Is that something you agree with and what else did you see?

[Stanford Steve]

I, I see where they're coming from with Oregon, but I get it, you know, with the best win being against Northwestern. Now the good thing about Oregon, they have plenty of opportunities opportunities moving forward. I thought the top three. I wanted to see what that was going to look like and I had a feeling Ohio State was going to be with what their game control and what their dominance has looked like. Plenty of people have talked about the competition that they've played, but I look at them being ahead of of Indiana simply due to one reason. Look who Indiana scheduled in the out of conference and look what Ohio State did in schedule in Texas in that opener. So I have no problem, problem with Ohio State being number one. A&M might have the best win in the country at Notre Dame, but there's other games with the defense. I, I thought the board chair made good valid points with how dominant the defenses of Indiana and Ohio State have been compared to one, you know, little thing about A and M. Yeah, the defense has given up more points. The biggest takeaway to me is that this committee seems to be rewarding close losses. And when you look at Notre Dame with two close losses at that, you know, last play of the game, they're ahead of, of say, you know, Texas, Iowa, plenty to play for, moving ahead, but seems like they got a lot of credit for, you know, keeping it close against Indiana in a home game. So that was one thing I thought was, was pretty evident that, that close losses look to be a factor for this committee.

[Pat McAfee]

AP Tone your thoughts on the close loss theory from Stanford. Steve?

[AP Tone]

Yeah, I mean he's, he's absolutely correct. I mean Notre Dame lost on, you know, a fumbled snap at home to A and M in overtime and then a close loss down in Miami in week one. And then if you want to talk about Texas Tech, who is right ahead of them, their only loss is on a last second play to Arizona State. So when, when Steve's talking about the close losses for sure in Georgia's, you know, close loss would be better than better than Oregon's obviously because, you know, I, you kind of handled them a good bit and their one loss being to Bama who's the number four seed. So yeah, as far as Steve's talking about those clause close losses, that is, that is definitely a thing. And that's definitely going to drive people crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, definitely going to drive people crazy. But this is also going to make some football people pumped about, hey, who do you play? What are your losses? Where are your losses? What are your losses look like, when were your losses? Like that is something that I think a lot of people hope that they add into the decision making process. What are they going strictly off? Each kind of committee has their own thing, right? Right. Stanford, Steve, isn't that kind of part of the problem? Like this committee might view things vastly different than last year's committee and then people will say, well, last year they didn't. It's like, well, this is a different, a completely different situation. Right. And that kind of like the evolving process of the CFP committee.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, that's, you know, you know, I think some things are subjective and object, you know, people want to throw all those big words around. I try and just watch the games and figure out who's the best, but the way my record is going this year, I can't be on that anymore. Say so I'm going to listen to the people that are in the room in the committee. The one thing I will say is that the idea of the losses with Miami, you know, I was interested in the Miami Notre Dame comparison and Miami being eight spots lower than Notre Dame tells you I think it's more recency. You know, Miami is as frustrating in their losses as anybody. You got one loss where the quarterback throws four picks, another loss. I believe they had 13 penalties in an overtime game where they had the lead and, you know, had a costly penalty for SMU to get a field goal. So Miami is the one, I think the biggest loser to me right now because when you look at them moving forward, there's not a lot of opportunities. Along with Vanderbilt, they don't have a lot of opportunities to get wins and move up as, as does Oregon, you know, or even say a Texas Tech or byu. Like they, they have ranked teams on their schedule. So Miami being down that far, it was pretty eye opening.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Bad for the ACC as well, you know, and obviously lo, that's what's going to happen, especially up there. And you start asking yourself, is there going to be two baits out of the ACC or they only going to get one? Go ahead, con man.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, Steve, looking at the, you know, games remaining, especially with those teams that are on that bracket, is Georgia Tech versus Georgia going to be the biggest game you Think in that, you know, rivalries history. But as far as just foreseeing what the playoffs going to be, Georgia Tech goes down, someone else goes in, Georgia goes down, they're out. All of a sudden maybe you know, a different SEC team, Texas per by chance they slide in. What do you think about that situation kind of brewing now?

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, I think it's enormous. Connor, when you look at Georgia Tech and what they are, their strength of schedule I believe is in the hundreds and you know that's a team that every year is going to play Georgia, right. So you got out of conference game, there they go and schedule Colorado who you think is going to be all right, but they're getting worse and worse. Every week you play, you beat Clemson and Clemson might not make a of bunch full game and it's just tough. And then you, you know, you have that game that catches up to you where you can't get your defense on track against NC State and you get that first loss. But they, they are in control. You know the comparative thing and that's why I think the Miami, Notre Dame thing's unfortunate also is as big as these conferences are, we get less and less head to head and I'm, I think head to head should, should matter a ton. So the Georgia, Georgia Tech game is going to be enormous as far as competitive imperative. You know, it's an out of conference game, it's an SEC versus acc and you know, to Georgia Tech's point it's, it's not going to get in their way of making the ACC title game. But yeah, that's it. I thought they were ranked properly with, with what their resume actually is when you take a step back and look at it. But they got a couple chances for some monster wins. But yeah, that game is, is enormous to your point.

[Pat McAfee]

You talk about the SEC and the ACC showing out there at that particular point or maybe how many bids should they have. And then the Big 12 obviously has a lot of teams vying for the Big 12 championship still very much in it, which is a beautiful thing. I mean byu, Utah might be having a holy war reunion at the Big 12 championship game. But then you think about that other conference, you know, the one up north. Go ahead, Ty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, Steve, when you look at the back half of the rankings with Iowa, Michigan and USC all clustered right there, do you think that suggests that more than likely, likely the Big Ten is only going to be a three bid league because obviously you could make the case that either SC or Iowa would swap with Oregon potentially because they Both still have to play them and then obviously they're, you know, kind of saving grace to get a fourth team in would be Michigan potentially beating Ohio State. But with the way this is set up right now, do you think that that means that the Big Ten is probably only getting three teams in?

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, that's the way it looks right now. What I will say to those teams individually, literally, you know, you control your own destiny, whatever what have you, it's there. The issue I have is if Michigan wins and beats Ohio State, they're going to be in the Big Ten title game because their, their other loss is out of conference. So you would have potentially Indiana, Michigan in Indianapolis and Ohio State sitting with one loss and in the most recent number one team in the country, which would turn, you know, throw a whole flux. Iowa, it's there. Man, I, I would be pumped if I was an Iowa fan. You're 20? Yeah. I mean, what a weekend for you. You got the Packers Monday night. We got Iowa CBS 3:30. Good luck. I hope you don't have your kids this weekend. Jeez, use the time.

[Pat McAfee]

Send the kids, the kids out there. It's a big one. I can win maybe the biggest game that they've had in a long time during the regular season.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, I mean it really is all in front of them. You know, it was kind of like a tough in cheek fun now.

[Pat McAfee]

Lingering.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, lingering. But like they, I, I, as of right now, I really do feel like they're going to beat Oregon this weekend. I don't think there's been this much juice around an Iowa team in quite some time in the building as well. But then the, the true test, I mean obviously that's a test, but they have to go to usc. So it's like if they could get through both those teams though, like look out, Iowa might be sneaking in there as like an 11 or a 12 seed.

[Pat McAfee]

Go ahead, Tone.

[AP Tone]

Steve, I was just looking at it.

[Pat McAfee]

And I brought it up earlier, but.

[AP Tone]

I wanted to get your opinion. Notre dame sitting at 10 and then right behind them, Texas and Oklahoma both with two losses as well. Texas still has Georgia and A and M. Oklahoma's still got Bama. If it's a big if. But if those teams win out, is there a chance they jump? Notre Dame and Notre Dame sitting on the outside with their two close losses.

[Stanford Steve]

They should, but I don't see it happening. Okay, I, I, I would. The most definite thing I feel about right now is that Notre Dame is going to get a home game in the playoff when you look at what they've done and, and you know, I, I, I just wish they were down a little bit so they had to earn that 10 game win streak to get in and you prop them up again like I said to the two close losses and then everybody throws away what they look like. Last week against Boston College football. Boston College is atrocious. Stanford beat Boston College. They are not a good football.

[Pat McAfee]

Bill o' Brien said they're shooting, showing up and fighting. Okay, you want to be negative, get the hell on out of here.

[Stanford Steve]

Signs up we're playing football o' Brien but that they're not a good outfit. As I said.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's what the guy asking a question.

[Stanford Steve]

Not a good outfit.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the guy asked in the question of Bill o' Brien said this sucks. Basically Bill o' Brien said I don't.

[J.J. Watt]

Want to hear it.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. We need to be. This is a real, this is a real press conference. It happened what, yesterday, maybe two days ago.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. And even worse, if you go back to how Bill o' Brien goes got there, guy could have been the OCO of Ohio State last year if I do remember correctly. Or is that two years ago. But either way I think it makes sense now why Jeff Halfley left BC because they got no resources up there.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, Bill o' Brien said his son's up and we're playing football.

[Boston Connor]

So amen.

[Pat McAfee]

He's about sick of all the talkie.

[Boston Connor]

Season now for the BC in four.

[Pat McAfee]

We know they're going to be dangling around with their sticky M. We understand that that's going to happen but, but yes, you're talking about Notre Dame's big time wins. They're going to have to put on a show. I think Tone said at the beginning of the year he said if Notre Dame wins every game by 30 like they did last year and they just kind of do that for the rest of the year, they're definitely going to get in the College Football Playoff. I assume they were already out because they had so many wins but Texas A and M being who they are obviously is a big deal for them. Like I think that's a big deal. And then Reese Davis, who is a very influential person in college football, he speaks to the community committee. He's one of the only people that get to do that. He hosts college game day. He said Notre Dame eye test top five team in America and it's like maybe, and maybe just the two losses are completely tough luck almost because everybody talks about the Notre Dame schedule like Notre Dame's able to schedule Whoever they want, they're independent, they're going to be on national tv, they got enough money, they're able to kind of do what they want. They don't have a conference championship. They have it easier when it comes to that. It's like they scheduled some tough ones early, they lost them both. And then the national narrative for the first time was like, notre Dame is done. So it's like a very different Notre Dame season, as opposed to like, one where they're kind of who they played, who they played, who they played. Now it's like, well, they've actually played top three teams, top three team lost them close, very close, and they've dominated everybody else. They're going to get in. We all assume, yeah, it's Notre Dame, it's Notre Dame.

[AP Tone]

They should just say at the start.

[Pat McAfee]

Of the year, no matter what Notre.

[AP Tone]

Dame, you lose two or less your auto bid.

[Pat McAfee]

That should be a part of the rules. Because, remember, the SEC in the Big Ten allegedly are like, hey, if you make the. The championship game, you should be automatically in. So, like, we. That's what I think was being talked about, because, you know, the big angle started to become, well, these guys aren't going playing championship games because it's another loss. Like, what does championship game. Championship game means nothing, because these teams don't care, because they just don't want to get there because they don't want to lose. And it's like, well, if you made an automatic bid for both finalists of the championships, then it's a whole different conversation. We're not there yet. You know, we're not there yet, but whenever we get. Get there, maybe it is like, finalists for the championship games get in. And Notre Dame, if they have less than two losses, they also get a spot. All the other spots up for grabs. All the other spots up for grabs. There's a chance that they actually do that, Ty.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah. I mean, but that it's Notre. Dame. Okay. Like, so we can say all this kind of stuff. It's one of the most powerful and biggest and most beloved institutions in the United States. So if there's. They're even on the cusp of potentially getting in, you know, they're going to say, hey, you know, would you rather see Notre Dame or Memphis in the playoff?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, Memphis is obviously group of five.

[Ty Schmidt]

No, yeah, I get it.

[Pat McAfee]

They got their own slot. There's no reason for you to attack.

[Ty Schmidt]

I'm just saying, you know, if Notre Dame is even close to getting in.

[Pat McAfee]

You think that committee's going to Say.

[Ty Schmidt]

Got a lot of old white people on that committee. How many of those guys are Catholics?

[Pat McAfee]

You think they're.

[Boston Connor]

I don't know.

[Ty Schmidt]

I don't know. Yeah. Amen.

[Pat McAfee]

Amen. Yeah, there is.

[Ty Schmidt]

Let's get Notre Dame in this thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Now, that is always the problem. That's what everybody thinks is actually happening. Okay? That's. Everybody is thinking actually happening. And there's a chance anytime humans are involved, there is a little bit of bias. Now let's talk about bias. Let's talk about trust. Debod has a question for you, Steve.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I want to ask you, Steve, maybe even you, Tony, the eye test. Which one of these quarterbacks, if you pop up, which one of these quarterbacks do you trust the most down the stretch? O. Mendoza.

[Pat McAfee]

Moore.

[Boston Connor]

It's Mendoza.

[Ty Schmidt]

Simpson.

[Pat McAfee]

Simpson saying read Bachm, Garner, Gronowski.

[Ty Schmidt]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

He's not a liar.

[Ty Schmidt]

He should be lingering, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Lingering?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Stanford Steve]

I mean, I look at all the, the toys that each quarterback has to play with. Deba and they all have awesome, awesome, you know, deals where, you know, saying continually, you know, you see them open up the playbook more and more, more throws down the field. Marcel Reed, you know, doing more with his legs in that win the last time we saw him against lsu. Simpsons again, guy that's probably responded the best to adversity, you know, knowing what Florida State looked like, but then ramping it up. And I thought him being the reason, you know, third down, fourth down, conversions at Missouri, at Georgia, jumping them early. I would probably tossed Trust Simpson because I've seen him face adversity and I know what I'm getting. But I mean, the guy we're not even talking about in Mendoza, I'm not sure what Surat's going to do. Is he going to be out a couple weeks? Indiana sounds like they got. They got pretty banged up. So I'm interested to see how many guys they have. I'm not saying they're gonna, you know, blow it at. At Penn State, but right now when you're saying with all things aligned, I would look at. At Tyson.

[Pat McAfee]

What do we even say in these words? Okay, blow it and all this other stuff. Let's not put that on the universe. Obviously, Indiana's having a miraculous run. Fernando Mendoza, an absolute stud. But you're right, the injury is certainly something. And AJ let's talk about Julian Sane. He's the odds on F favorite to win the Heisman. Nobody really talking about him strictly because he has so much talent or because you guys haven't played anybody not your fault, but you seemingly haven't played anybody, A.J.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah, I mean, that's, they're in a tough spot. They are so good that no matter who they play, they're gonna say, oh, this team sucks. Anyway, no matter, like, Penn State started out, weren't they number one in the country? Like preseason? Like, I understand things happen, but yeah, they're, they're taking care of business. And I first, I went to the first, this is the first Ohio State game I went to in person this year, the Penn State State game. And watching, I was like, we got a little pregame field pass with my kids, and then they usher you up and get you off the field. You can't sit there and watch the game there. And I, I hung around and watched like the first couple drives and Julian saying, the ball, man. I tell you what, Pat, you know, when we see a guy throw a ball in person, you can kind of tell early. And that dude, he's got it. Like he, I know he's thrown to some studs, but this dude, he has the moxie, how he carries himself, how he walks through the huddle, how everything about him, like, he, he seems like he's been starting for 10 years.

[Pat McAfee]

How. What year is this for him?

[A.J. Hawk]

Second year, I believe, right?

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah.

[AP Tone]

Red shirt freshman, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, so he's got another year at least. That's great news for Ryan Day and obviously the entire offense. But he, he's not getting much chatter at all. And I, I love that Coach Saban said he was at Alabama and the coach had him playing scout team for an entire year. What a dumbass. Or something like that. It's like he has been high on, on sane. Coach Saban has been high on sane since like before the Texas Ohio State game. And now, now he's odds on favorite to win the Heisman. Feels like the sports books are high on him. We need an Ohio State prime time matchup. We, we need a massive game. And A.J. to your point, Penn State was supposed to be that. They're not. It's like every game is supposed to be and then it's not. But there's teams that get caught by these teams, though, and Ohio State has not. They've maintained their dominance. And that defense is outrageous. Outrageous. AJ Hawk.

[A.J. Hawk]

That's the thing I wanted to ask Stanford, See, we asked like, hey, who, which quarterback do you trust or pass the eye test? Which defense do you trust the most? Stanford. Steve, when you look at those four top four to six teams.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, I've thought about this a lot. Watching these teams, AJ and to me, Ohio State plays better team defense. Indiana has better difference makers up front. But when you. I mean, you guys talked about Arvell Reese earlier. Like, I saw their first PR or their last practice before the Texas game, I'm like, who the hell is number eight? Where's he been hiding? And then he's just gone crazy this year. I love the. Obviously you love the back end styles, both of them, the speed they, they play with. So I, I trust Ohio State the most. I would just, if, if Indiana's in that conversation, I understand it, but they have more difference makers up front. But Fisher didn't play against Maryland. He's the quarterback of that defense he runs really impressed me against Oregon. But overall, trust, I go with the Buckeyes.

[Pat McAfee]

All right. We appreciate the hell out of you. Thank you so much for joining us. Oklahoma's defense, also very, very good. They're right on the outside if they're able to find their way in. And we're heading to Lubbock. Texas down there, byu, Texas Tech. What should I be knowing? I've been hearing a lot about tortillas and then tortillas, I guess are kind of bands or something like that from the game. And, and obviously I can't wait to get down there. I've heard we got some cowboy mentality.

[Stanford Steve]

I am very, very lucky, Pat. I was there in Lubbock for the greatest night in the history of Lubbock. The Michael Crabtree catch against Texas. It's probably the best sporting event I've ever been to in my life. The place was absolutely insane. If you go back, it's Halloween weekend. The Batman movie with Heath Ledger had just come out.

[J.J. Watt]

Every.

[Stanford Steve]

Everyone's dressed as the Joker. I mean, it was, it was nuts. And they, they get the Crabtree catch. They rush the field like three times. Like when there's one second left in the game, Texas Tech has to kick off from like their 5 yard line and the field is just absolute madness. Like I said, best atmosphere I've seen. So I. They're supposedly. They're already catching. Camping out. Be ready for some steaks the size of your head. Yeah, I'm standing right there, like the 10 yard line. You could see me. Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

It's not the other guy. It's that other guy.

[Stanford Steve]

Absolute scene with what was. I think, I think McConaughey went up to the press box because the sidelines were so crazy that night. But it was an all timer. It is. You want to talk about West Texas, man, it, it's it's all in Lubbock. And now with the money I'm hearing, Coach McGuire said you won't even recognize it with the facilities and all that. So I. I can't wait. Like I said, steaks for your head. The size of your head. I can't wait to eat one Friday night and Thursday.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I like, I like big old meat. I like, I like big old meat especially. You know, you get a little cowboy cut, you know, on that thing. Little bit savory sauce on that thing down there, you know, and you got one big old hat. You walk in there, you hang that some on the wall because we like to show respect to the place that we are. You got them boots on, you got a buckle on. And by God, we're tucking that some in and we're going, button that all the way up. Maybe pops. Definitely got a little bit of inseam on this thing right here. Definitely a little inseam. We'll pop that thing up too, if we want it. I can't wait to get down there.

[Darius Butler]

You already got the fit picked up.

[Pat McAfee]

In my mind. I see what it looks like or could look like.

[A.J. Hawk]

Where's some pearl snaps? Some pearl snaps on your shirt?

[Pat McAfee]

So certainly a possibility. But on that note, there's a gentleman. I don't, I don't know if I should say his name or not, but he was some town. What's that? Like the person who like coordinates what events come into town and stuff like that. It's like a town organization, town community organizer, something along those. It was a. Voted in something. Okay. This guy, whenever we went down to Texas for something, he was there. He delivered me a cowboy hat. My name is blah, blah, blah, blah. They call me the wolf. Have you ever seen anything like that? I get things done, yada, yada, yada. Welcome to Texas. Sick cowboy hat, this guy. Sick. He had boots on, obviously, the entire thing. I'm like, hell yes. I wore that thing on game day. That is the. I believe it's the. It was either the tan one or the black one. I forget which one it was, but it was the first time I wore one.

[Boston Connor]

It was.

[Pat McAfee]

It was from this man. This man is a Texas Tech grad. So he has reached out and been like, hey, listen, we got ideas here. So I think I'm going to be pretty suited and booted. We got a lot of belt buckles being offered up. Obviously they earn them down there. I just buy them. So it's a little bit random, but they are a sweet accessory to Add to yourself. So I think it should be a pretty country ass Saturday. I. I mean, they're camping. Yeah, we talk about them camping out. They got like tents lined up outside the stadium. I think for them to get in there, set up Mario Kart outside.

[Boston Connor]

I mean they are kids taking shifts.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Garden tents and spots to get in there. It's like the place is outrageous. And they got a huge one against byu. I. I cannot wait to get down there. Literally. Graham Harold. What a stud. Aj I heard you say his name.

[A.J. Hawk]

He's awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Great throw.

[A.J. Hawk]

Great throw.

[Pat McAfee]

Great.

[A.J. Hawk]

How do you stay in bounds on that?

[Pat McAfee]

It's kind of Ryan Williams from the other day.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah, very similar. You're right.

[Stanford Steve]

Blake Gideon dropped an interception right before that too.

[Darius Butler]

See Toddy brother always come back bite.

[Pat McAfee]

You catch the ones they throw you. All right, Steve, we appreciate the hell out of you. Look awesome, ladies and gentlemen.

[Stanford Steve]

Appreciate you guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, thank you for wearing a wvu. We're won. Huge win.

[Stanford Steve]

Monster win. Now we're a favorite this week. Come on.

[Pat McAfee]

Is the hard edge back?

[Stanford Steve]

Think so.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm thinking, yeah. Scotty Fox, quarterback. Yeah, I'm thinking we got a guy. The moxie through the roof hard edge reel. And these guys have all had to battle through one training camp with Rich Rod, one summer conditioning. Okay. And hard times this season. So the guys that are still playing and still, still there, I think are a bit hardened. Like, I think we have kind of maybe got to the point where it's like a culture is close and then obviously we're going to have to add in in the off season. But it's like maybe Rich Rod is able to find a little something out of these. Yeah, maybe he is a little able to find a little something out there. And in the Big 12. Now, I know Texas Tech is obviously going to be good. BYU is going to be good forever. Utah is the real deal. But mountaineers start climbing all of a sudden. Now there's a little bit of an east coast fist fight coming to town. You know, coming straight out of mountains with a hard edge and an attitude and hopefully a lot more boosters going forward. We need more. Steve, why don't you come give somebody West Virginia Mountaineers.

[Boston Connor]

Can the Jerry west estate help out maybe?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, I think they do. Maybe they do, though. Yeah, but maybe they do. Johnny west, his son, his boy played basketball. Yes, he was. He was awesome. Johnny west was a great guy. But yeah, if you run into anybody with a lot of money, just ask them if they want to pick up the West Virginia Mountaineers. That's what I'm doing right now at this moment.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah. And we're going to West Texas. There's a lot of oil money down there. Maybe, maybe, maybe they like West Virginia.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I fear though. Yeah. With us being in a Big 12 with them, I need to find a natural gap. Gas.

[Ty Schmidt]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

I need to maybe get my own, my own rig, kind of dive down there and get natural gas. Maybe we're the West Virginia Gas Mountaineers, you know what I mean? Maybe we get in there. I need to talk to Jerry Jones to find that you're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, San Fr. Yes, A.J. i don't know if we've gotten your full take on Jerry Jones thinking he's going to make $100 billion. So why, what are we talking about football for right now? What are we talking about football for?

[A.J. Hawk]

What we can't do. Like we have technology now. He can still go manage 100 billion dollar possible, I guess. Well, that he's, he's trying to pump out and then still work on the Cowboys. Look, he's still able to make big deals, bring some players in.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. He's the one on the phones making all these trades as well. He is the general manager for the Dallas Cowboys. And we certainly love the way he's just come out and said, yeah, if it's boring, I'll start up. Just why not? Yeah, if not me, then who? We're going to talk about the Cowboys. But there's a hundred billion dollar present value with gas out there. That's why I'm talking to you on telephone rather than trying to fix our defense with Dallas Campbell. I woke up this morning, I got sent a memo. I fucking printed it out. I read it. They said $100 billion. Whose $100 billion is that? That could be yours, Mr. Jones. All we gotta do is get three miles down. It's gonna be tough to do, but if you give us about a billion dollars, we'll be able to get $100 billion. Is this in about a week or about a month? Probably like a year, sir. Let's get some shovels. Let's get this thing started. And that's Jerry Jones in a nutshell. He's always going to go for it. He goes big. Him getting Quinn and Williams feels like he says he's going big. I got one trade already done. That was a Logan woods one. I might have another one. I might have another one. Quinn and comes in there, you know he's always going to be the Topic are they ever going to be able to win? And maybe they need to make play for offensive line, because if you have a great offensive line, you have a great football team. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to go in the trenches with AQ Shipley for our top five performing offensive lines out of week nine. Who's number five?

[AQ Shipley]

San Francisco 49ers. Wow.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

You can't control who you play, obviously. Sorry, Bruce.

[Boston Connor]

They.

[AQ Shipley]

They're not very good on defense right now and everybody's running all over them. Let's look at this backside combo, though. You got Jake Brenda out with an injury. Insert. Matt Hennessy, former Atlanta Falcon, gets to climb. Huge check out in space. Trent Williams doing his thing. Christian McCaffrey runs through through a big gaping hole.

[Pat McAfee]

We love those.

[AQ Shipley]

If you go back to the beginning real quick, Foxy, remember a couple weeks ago we had use check as a tilt. He faked it, went this way. Now we gain plus one on this toss, crack toss gains leverage on the defense. Love the way they ran.

[Pat McAfee]

That is use check still the indicator on where everything's going. Is that what you're finding?

[AQ Shipley]

He always is, but the thing that they're doing differently now is now they're starting to send him one way and bring them back so you can't get full tells. It's pretty cool what they're doing.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me every time. That's use check football. It seems like he is always going right where the play is going and it's right off his ass and it always works. Congrats to him. Putting together maybe one of the greatest fullback resumes in the history of ball. Who's the number four performing offensive line of week nine? Wow. The La Rom l a Rams. Wow. Congrats to them.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah, they did a great job. They ran for almost 170 yards this week between Kyron Williams and Blake Corm. Here you got Blake Corum. Check this out. You call the perfect play into a slanting defense. Everybody slants.

[A.J. Hawk]

Cool.

[AQ Shipley]

All you gotta do is seal the edge. Look at Parkinson on Demario Davis at the second level. Might be a hold, but got away from it. Or got away with it there and then. Look at Puka Nukua getting this thing started outside wide zone. I mean, anybody can run through that hole, boys.

[Pat McAfee]

Puka Nukua giving it up for the boys. Obviously. Love everything about it. Sean McVay always has a good run game. You know, there was that one year they had a potential action pass offensive line. They address it and Move on. He respects the position, I believe.

[AQ Shipley]

The thing I love about what he's done this year, if you go back to 16, 17, when he first got there, he was ahead of the game. He was doing all the shifts in motions. They were going jet motion and they were just pushing to spots. This year, they went back to simplicity. They are doing every single thing the same way, same formation, and they are downhill at you and running the zone.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, I just saw the number three performing offensive line out of week nine. Holy hell.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's good football team.

[AQ Shipley]

Good football team. The Carolina Panthers. If we can pause this real quick, I'm just going to set this up. This was a pivotal play in the game, right? This is the play that got them into field goal range to win the game. And if you look at Bryce Young and you look at Rico Dowdle, they notice that Micah Parsons is standing up. Cooper stand, see him talking. They're basically bluffing. Making it think like, hey, we're going to run a pass right here. And you got him in pass protection. And then they seal it off. They hand it off. You get man coverage on the back end. Brings the safety out of the box. Everybody seals it off, and you get the huge run right there.

[Pat McAfee]

First down, win the game. Set them up obviously, for the field goal. Bluffing the Green Bay packers defensive front. Everybody's saying we're going to go for a pass. And instead, Dowdle shows incredible patience. AJ this Dowdle fella, Rico, is awesome to watch. Now he can't be pumping and jabbing, rating after he scores touchdowns. He's learned that lesson. I guess we all have that. Some refs just ain't going to have any pumps. I'm a no pump ref. Oh, you can have two pumps, maybe with other refs. You are no pump territory with me on the call. Rico learned that. And also I think we're all learning. He's a dog. A.J. hawk.

[A.J. Hawk]

No, he's awesome. And credit to Bryce Young. Yeah, he is very, like, demonstrative when he's going over and pointing and. And bluffing this whole situation. So hopefully he continues to do that as the year goes. But, yeah, look at that. Like, all right, Come on. I guess he would get you thinking, though, if you're Mike and you're this. Well, is he. Is he messing with me?

[AQ Shipley]

Like, this is.

[A.J. Hawk]

This is kind of weird. I haven't seen him do this a whole lot. Like, yeah, it's. That's the thing, man. Bryce Young is growing.

[Pat McAfee]

It's funny to think about, like, the respect the defense has for you is how they're going to respond to that. Okay. If they think you would just give that away like that, that loud and that easy, like, oh, this guy. What a dipshit. And then he can get work. If that was somebody else who's like an established. I'm not saying Brian Bryce Young isn't going to become that guy, but if that is like Peyton or Tom or Drew even, who just signed a deal to call games for Fox. Drew Brees is going to be in the booth alongside Adam Amin, friend of the program. Good luck to him going in there. We all assume that this is the replacement by Fox for the situation that happened with Mark Sanchez in Indianapolis. But the fact that Bryce Young, you know, pulls it off at the stage in which he's at. It's almost like the perfect time for it because I don't think the defense thinks something is up immediately. Like, if Peyton's doing that, everybody's like, huge.

[Darius Butler]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Payton, why would Peyton. There's no way he would be giving away that much. Bryce might be a guy, huh?

[Darius Butler]

He might be. That's next level stuff. And that situation right there was second and 10, tie ball game, less than a minute. So, like, if you do throw a pass incomplete, now you got third and long, and then you maybe give Jordan love and those guys an opportunity. So that's. That's good ball. Right? That's winning football right there.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, Carolina Panthers are good football team.

[Ty Schmidt]

Good football.

[Pat McAfee]

Football. They are.

[Ty Schmidt]

Football team. And Bryce Young, he. Although he did have the lowest quarterback rating in the NFL this past week, he still got the win. Did enough. Did what he had to do. They're running right there.

[AQ Shipley]

They're running it. They love Rico.

[Ty Schmidt]

Dowdle down.

[AQ Shipley]

I've talked to guys in the building down there. Love Rico. D, by the way, let me say this, too. They're on their seventh offensive line combination. They continue to get hurt, and they continue to run for 150 yards every day.

[Pat McAfee]

I would love to Rico, too.

[A.J. Hawk]

Who's that?

[Boston Connor]

O line coach?

[A.J. Hawk]

Aq. Do you know?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

Harold Goodwin's my guy. He's been. He was my o line coach nine of my 12 years.

[Pat McAfee]

Goody and Joey Gilbert down there, the. The operation.

[A.J. Hawk]

Big deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Great vibes.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah, those dudes.

[Pat McAfee]

Great vibes. Incredible vibes. Now, they've been coaching a long time, especially in the offensive line world, but yeah, that's an incredible job. And I assume they're potentially the ones that were telling you, we love Rico. This guy, everybody's life a lot better. Special culture. They're potential. Speaking of a special culture, number two, perform an offensive line of week nine.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

The Buffalo Bills. And they were the most physical team in this game. It wasn't even close. Whenever you line up against the Kansas City Chiefs, you got to beat them up physically. They got guys across that can be bullies, like Chris Jones. They took it to him. But this is their bread and butter play, let me tell you. Jackson Hawes, their new tight end and Reggie Gilliam. Every bit is important to this offensive line. They love this play. Send the tight end back, get the full back up, get the seal by everybody else on the offensive line. Line skinny through there. Unbelievable job.

[Pat McAfee]

It's first and 10 in the second quarter there. Got a couple blockers leading the way. James Cook cooking for the Buffalo Bills. I like the physicality of this team. I like that they will fight you, you know, like the Buffalo Bills defense. What they did to Patrick Mahomes. And then offensive line wise, we talk about Dion Dawkins. They will. They're going to have to, I think.

[AQ Shipley]

Oh, they're physical. Dawkins is unbelievable. David Edwards, incredible. Former super bowl winner with the LA Rams. McGovern's incredible at center. I mean obviously Spencer Brown's an absolute psycho. He self described. I think we saw that a couple weeks ago. But their tight end and fullback are awesome. I mean they got a really good team. And other on the other side of the ball. Their defensive line is playing really well too. They got a. They got one of their guys back. I don't know how you pronounce his name. H O E C H T. Is it height? Height. Okay, so he tears his Achilles in his first game back, which big loss for them because he was, he was bringing some juice.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the Buffalo Bills back in it. You know, Buffalo 6 and 2 right now, second in the AFC east behind the pitch Patriots were 7 and 2. They've already had their bye week. How will they finish? And wow, this is a massive one. The number one offensive line in week nine, the Chicago Bears. Congrats to the Bears.

[Darius Butler]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

I guess high scoring affair. The Bears offensive line had to be great.

[AQ Shipley]

If you turn on their film, there is bodies on the floor on every single play. And I, I love you. Got to give Ryan Poles a lot of credit. He went out and made some crazy moves this offseason. We're going to really bring in a bunch of new offensive linemen and it has paid off. If you watch this, check out this. By the way, their left tackle, Braxton Jones starts the season he gets injured. They put this guy in, this Canadian who was on the practice squad. Theo Benedict. You want to talk about a block? Let's watch this dude climb on the safety, run his ass to the sideline, bury him into the back.

[A.J. Hawk]

Illegal.

[Pat McAfee]

How good is that?

[A.J. Hawk]

That's actually pretty. That's pretty awesome. I can't lie.

[AQ Shipley]

Okay, so that's the left.

[A.J. Hawk]

I want to be that defender, but that's great.

[AQ Shipley]

AJ so that's the left tackle, and I think the boys in the back got another clip of Darnell. Right, let's take a look at this. Here he is to our left, playing right tackle against Shamar Stewart, the first round pick. Take his ass and bury him on the other side.

[Pat McAfee]

Jeez Louise. The Bears are burying these Bengals bodies deep into the dirt.

[Boston Connor]

That's it.

[Pat McAfee]

I thought I was trying to think of another B word, but they're for real, huh? The monsters of the midway are actually the monsters of the midway.

[AQ Shipley]

Who does that remind you of? That's the Detroit Lions offensive line just beating you up. That's what Ben Johnson's bringing to this team.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. Ben Johnson's culture settling in everywhere. Yeah. So you're saying that the offensive line for the Chicago Bears are good for the rest of the year?

[AQ Shipley]

They're healthy. Dolman, the new center, Unbelievable. The two tackles are playing great. They got Jonah Jackson at right, and obviously Toonies an absolute monster. I mean, they look really good.

[Pat McAfee]

Chicago Bears are a real deal, Ty. Good luck, bub.

[Ty Schmidt]

Well, and Rutgers legend Kyle Manunga getting his first start and running for 170 yards, too. I mean, I've been saying it all year. You hear everything from Ben Johnson. Don't love it. You watch him play. Don't love it. But we. We'll see, you know, I mean, you can't play the Bengals every week. Jeez.

[Pat McAfee]

Bengals are an interesting spot.

[AQ Shipley]

They really are.

[Pat McAfee]

They didn't trade Trey. They didn't trade. No, they didn't trade into. They didn't do anything. Mangle said, we're sticking with our guys.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, we like our guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's go ahead and try to get this thing figured out. What an interesting time for them. And what an interesting time for the Chicago Bears. They have the number one offensive line in the trenches with AQ Shipley, as the Niners, Rams, Panthers, and the Buffalo Bills are the rest of the top five. Congrats to you, boys. Way to go. Way to battle. If your offensive line's good, your team's good. So that's what we've learned from this particular segment. So whenever you see the Carolina Panthers show up at 3, it's like, Carolina Panthers. It's good football.

[Ty Schmidt]

It's a good football team this week. Nah, that's a good football team.

[Darius Butler]

It's every week.

[Pat McAfee]

You're right. It is week to week.

[Darius Butler]

It's week to week.

[Pat McAfee]

Connor. Connor, maybe thought you forgot about a team. Maybe. Yeah, they couldn't run it.

[AQ Shipley]

They didn't run it very well.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, definitely not the Patriots. They stink at blocking right now.

[Ty Schmidt]

They've given up.

[Boston Connor]

They've given up like eight sacks and I don't know, maybe 11 sacks actually.

[AQ Shipley]

They're close.

[Boston Connor]

Last two weeks, they're close.

[AQ Shipley]

Close, though. They are close.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's get to some deeper ball in the defensive back world. Let's go. Secondary eyes. Through the eyes of everything. Db, Good D, Bad D with Darius J. Butler.

[Darius Butler]

Yes, sir. I talked about it. On the offensive side, I think they won kind of trade deadline. Getting Sam Dardo and Kubiak another weapon. Rashid Shahid. And we know what this defense has been under. Mike McDonald. Now you get in third and 17, that. That opens up the full playbook for what we love. Some exotics here, some overload blitz. So if you run it back to the beginning before the motion, the defense does a great job disguising here. Maybe showing some type of single high. If you see the safety up top, I believe his last name is Okada. Is that how you pronounce it? You'll see him up top, look, has his hips open like he's going to rotate to the middle of the field. And then post snap, Witherspoon, a corner up there to the boundary. You'll see him blitz along with some other guys, no drop. And this would be a five man pressure kind of umbrella fire zone. So he begins to be the flat defender, continues to sink, watching the quarterback, and goes up, climbs the ladder, high points his ball and makes a phenomenal interception on the sideline. Got both feet in that one.

[Pat McAfee]

It was just like on the offensive side. I mean, the Buffalo Bills offensive line on in the trenches, the Buffalo Bills defense on everything. Db, Good D because of how physical they are and obviously making plays here. But were they just clearly the more physical team?

[Darius Butler]

Yes. And that's the mindset every week in NFL. You want to set the tone. You want to be the more physical team, especially when it's two teams that, you know, they're very familiar with each other. They know they're probably going to see each other again in the playoffs. So you want to Kind of set that tone early in the season so that when you see them later, you know what's going to come. But you have some young and they also I think lead the league in disguise defenses and they have some moving parts on the back end.

[Pat McAfee]

Seattle, Buffalo.

[Boston Connor]

Buffalo.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, Buffalo. They. So they disguised a lot of their coverages. Now it can be some holes and they can be susceptible to some things, but they played very well. And you never see Patrick Mahomes under like he was like 15 for 34. I believe you never see that stat.

[Pat McAfee]

I think going back to Texas Tech he. That was the first time.

[Darius Butler]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

He was in college, I think. Yeah, he's under 50 and he came.

[Darius Butler]

Into this game where you know he favorite in the MVP like he shortest odds. So it was, it was a great performance by that Buffalo Bills defense. Another great performance. This Jacksonville Jaguars defense, second in the NFL with interceptions. But I want you to watch the bottom of the screen cover two flat defender. You got the tight end motioning out so he's going to widen them and try to run this quick hitch route. Great job getting his width, staying down in that cobra like demeanor. Eyes back to Geno Smith and then making a great break on the ball. This was a low scoring game. So all of these turns, turnovers, these interceptions matters. Great job by the db, getting the ball, finishing the catch once again, unbelievable play.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Geno Smith, you know, tough with the Raiders. Obviously this game goes to overtime. So every turnover, every play matters. The Raiders decide to go for two for the good of ball. But Jacksonville seemingly like good football team.

[Darius Butler]

Too, like finding ways to win close games.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And well their defense has, they have they been good all year.

[Darius Butler]

So the numbers, they aren't great numbers. Numbers wise but like splash plays, havoc plays like kind of how the Steelers were early on. They're getting wins, just creating a bunch of turnovers. And last season they were bottom of the league and creating turnovers. So up until this point second only behind the Chicago Bears when it comes to intercepting the ball.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, now it's time for some bad days.

[Darius Butler]

And unfortunately we gotta start down in Miami. Lamar Jackson, he returned and Mark Andrews was easy. Now we got Mark Andrews down here, he'll be circled and he's going to run. If you pause it here, what's called like a mesh route. So you got two crossers, you got him coming from the right side and you have Isaiah likely kind of in a similar position on the opposite side of the formation. And they're basically going to try to run their defenders into each other. Now, usually one guy should be high, one guy should be low. But Mark Andrews does a great job here of faking the pick and then just climbing and the defense on them. If you run it back again, just watch. So our technique here, pause it right here. So you're coached up to tailpipe right here. That's what we call getting the tailpipe.

[A.J. Hawk]

Getting the tailpipe db.

[Darius Butler]

Exactly. So actually, go ahead, explain it, AJ with the tailpipe technique.

[J.J. Watt]

I don't want.

[A.J. Hawk]

I don't. But you see, getting the tailpipe exactly what we mean.

[Pat McAfee]

You guys are diving guys tailpipes. So just tell us what that means.

[A.J. Hawk]

You get right up into his tailpipe. So then you cannot get picked and you're directly behind him. So if he runs into something like you're using his body as protection, you're sticking right on them. And then when you clear the pick, you can hopefully undercut him and maybe get a pick or, you know, pbu.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so the tailpipe is. You're on the bumper. Yeah, exact bumper.

[A.J. Hawk]

Directly behind him. If you're inside of them all, you're getting picked.

[Pat McAfee]

You hit somebody. I hit somebody.

[Darius Butler]

Exactly. Directly behind. But right, I mean, right before contact. If you run it back one more time from this wide copy. You can probably see from the replay as well, Mark Andrews kind of takes like a little stab with his left foot and then immediately climbs. And I think this was designed because you had a free hitter. You had a free hitter in the pocket right up in Lamar Jackson face. But Jackson continues to kind of sink back and they just make an accurate throw in his back foot. But great play design, great execution from Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews there.

[Pat McAfee]

So much chaos right there. So much trust out of Mark Andrews too because he's just running. Looking back, there's another guy right in front of him that he could obviously get clipped. It's just insanity whenever it all times up perfectly and gumpy. Let's talk about the Dolphins defense here. The boys are taking care of each other. The Ravens don't even have to do anything.

[Stanford Steve]

Yeah, it was a rough night for Dante Trader.

[Pat McAfee]

He's a fifth rounder rookie out of Maryland.

[AP Tone]

He's been very good all year though. This was just an off night. He's also a very good lacrosse player too. He's actually a dog. He's been one of our best secondary players all year.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. We like him for sure.

[Darius Butler]

Learning moment for sure. And Puka Nakua, welcome back. You'll see him. One of the things about 12 is hard to double him. Or even scheme how you're going to take him out of the game because you never know at the snap of the ball where he's going to be. Pause it right here. So he's kind of like an offset fullback right now. When the ball is snapped, Stafford's going to do a good job. Play action and then this is just an absolute die. I think it's pretty good coverage down the field. You can't ask for much better coverage, but you couldn't run down there and place this ball between the one and the two better than Matt Stafford did here from the pocket. It's just unbelievable. Accuracy, timing and trust from Matt Stafford and puking N. So I wouldn't even. This is a technically bad defense, but I just had to show big OO some love for being back out there, showing back up.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And obviously hitting the pylon counts as a body part. I do believe so. That's to contact. Stafford's been doing this for so long, A.J.

[J.J. Watt]

I know.

[A.J. Hawk]

And look at the time. He has too credit to this O line because this is kind of a, you know, late developing route downfield like this, but man, you couldn't throw this in any better. This is beautiful.

[Pat McAfee]

How many times you play against Stafford? A lot.

[J.J. Watt]

A bunch.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah. He came in the league in what, 08 or 09?

[Pat McAfee]

09.

[A.J. Hawk]

I mean, I don't know, probably six, six, seven years, twice a year.

[Pat McAfee]

So good.

[Boston Connor]

Damn.

[Darius Butler]

He was, you know, he was the number. The clear cut number one pick for a reason. And something that Calvin Johnson Megatron said earlier is like, you know, it's not just fastballs. You can see that the game is slowed down a ton from. He's seen defenses change a bunch, you see, seen him do it with different offenses, but he's just his arm talent. Like he can make every throw. You see the lookoff throws every other week. Like he. He's playing quarterback at a high, high level right now.

[Pat McAfee]

So not necessarily bad D, just grade O, but great O. Figure it out D. Now do we have another bad D?

[Darius Butler]

Now that was great O and good D, but this is, this is as bad as it gets. 41.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, is this hall of Fame now?

[Darius Butler]

42. Right. This, this is a Hoff number.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. Bad D, Hoffer.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, anytime you got 83 points with 25 seconds left on the clouds, bad D on both ends. But this is tough. I don't, I don't know what the Bengals, what the plan was here coverage wise, like. Cause you're just. It's 25 seconds left. In the game. You don't want to give that team the opportunity to get an easy catch and get in the field goal range and set up for a game with a field goal. But they just say, you know what, Fuck it, we'll just let the game guys score right here. Now we see this week in and week out. You got to wrap these guys up. Like, I don't care how long you. You can't tackle anybody in the National Football League with just a shoulder bump. You have to tackle these guys. You got to wrap them up. So for him to catch this ball and have two safeties right here with the opportunity to get him on the.

[Pat McAfee]

Ground, man, I didn't even think about it. Are they playing no Moss here?

[Boston Connor]

No. This.

[Ty Schmidt]

Get the ball back to Joe Flacco.

[Pat McAfee]

83 points. Let's make sure we get the ball. Ball back. Is this. Is this. No Moss.

[Darius Butler]

You know, this is usually the situation in defenses that I've been on where you're gonna play, you're gonna play. If you go back to why, why copy. You're gonna play some type of sticky coverage, maybe even bring some pressure, but you don't want to give up easy.

[Pat McAfee]

It looks like they're playing no moms. It.

[Darius Butler]

It looks terrible.

[Pat McAfee]

It looks like they're playing no more.

[Darius Butler]

It looks terrible. But I mean, hell of a play by Coastin Loveland. The rookie making a big. The biggest play of his career so far. And great job by the Bears sneaking out of there with a win.

[Pat McAfee]

And congrats to Colson Loveland and all the good videos of him coming out after he scores a touchdown. You know, it's a nice reminder, like.

[Boston Connor]

Hey, this dude's awesome, where they put.

[Darius Butler]

Some bad videos on it.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, just when Tyler Warren was doing his thing, of course, all anybody was saying was they remember this was the second draft. I even said it a couple of times because, like, we. We're going to probably take a tight end, and it's like it was chosen for us to take Tyler Warren. It's like this guy's the best player in football. So there's been a of lot, lot of that.

[Darius Butler]

They'll probably be compared to each other for. I don't like that picture right there. But they'll be compared to each other for just, for a long, long time. But Loveland Love is a talented, very talented kid.

[A.J. Hawk]

Oh, is that putting his mouthpiece in?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, the ref looks super cool.

[A.J. Hawk]

Ref's got re specs on.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the refs. The refs are incredible. We need to make sure that we get players. We need to get plugged in players into that reffing thing. We need to make sure we get back into that. Now, I don't think the refs were as asked this past weekend as maybe weekend before that, but I'm certain we could find some cases. They just need to not be the story ever. And that's going to be tough, especially whenever humans are involved.

[Darius Butler]

For sure.

[Pat McAfee]

We appreciate the hell out of you. You too, aq. Thank you, boys.

[Ty Schmidt]

Great time.

[AQ Shipley]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

Great to see you, man. Great to see you guys. Thank you. Looks good, Donnie.

[Boston Connor]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Aj, he's getting a little calm, conscious. He's young, little body.

[A.J. Hawk]

He looks great. But aq, I ran into a guy who said he is a. What do you call it? Like wingmaker. What's. What's your thing? What do you do in Arizona for the golf tournament? The big charity deal?

[AQ Shipley]

Thunderbird.

[A.J. Hawk]

Thunderbird. He's a Thunderbird with you? I forget his name, but yes, he was one of.

[Boston Connor]

That helps a lot.

[Ty Schmidt]

Memorable guy, Michael Phelps.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah, I forget. No, it wasn't Michael Phelps.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you call him a wing maker?

[A.J. Hawk]

I didn't know. I forgot the term of what they called that thing a Thunderbird.

[Pat McAfee]

But in your head it was wing maker. So I guess bird, maybe.

[A.J. Hawk]

I knew I probably wasn't right, but I thought that would jog his memory to what I was speaking of.

[Pat McAfee]

And we got there.

[Stanford Steve]

We got there.

[Pat McAfee]

We got there immediately. But just the fact that your brain remembered it as wind maker.

[AP Tone]

Wing.

[A.J. Hawk]

Wing W I n g wing maker. What is the term. What is the real term?

[Pat McAfee]

Thunderbird.

[Stanford Steve]

I was.

[A.J. Hawk]

I mean Thunderbirds. Wing w I n g like a wing of a bird.

[J.J. Watt]

Kind of close.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that is my exact point. The fact that your brain remembered it as wing maker and it's Thunderbird is a beautiful depiction of how that thing works up there. You Thunderbirds save the city though. Thank you for your service there.

[AQ Shipley]

We donated over $20 million back to Phoenix this year.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you.

[A.J. Hawk]

In one year.

[AQ Shipley]

One year.

[Darius Butler]

Speaking of wings, how big were those wings on a heavily Hulks. I hate that I wasn't able to be here to. I had so many questions.

[AQ Shipley]

That was so good.

[Pat McAfee]

Those things are platinum, brother.

[A.J. Hawk]

How many inches were they, Stevie?

[Darius Butler]

How. How were they real? Real?

[Ty Schmidt]

They're 22 inches apparently. 22 inches for his 22 inch biceps, obviously.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. We looked up the average bison PI biceps pythons and boy, those 22, 23 inch pythons were gigantic.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, about two times the size of the average human, you know, the untrained male, if you will.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you expect Heavenly Hulkster to kind of be the breaking news guy for heaven? Just as a whole hole, like all the names that stories.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, just tossing it back and forth with Jackie Robinson. That was, you know, awesome. Number one, obviously. Honestly, I was surprised to see him with the wings, you know, and the halo. I. I thought that took more time, but, you know, you told. Was it St. Peter?

[Ty Schmidt]

St. Peter. Big time Hulkamaniac.

[AQ Shipley]

I guess, yeah.

[Darius Butler]

I mean, I guess not shocked, but yeah, that was. That was. That was awesome to watch.

[Boston Connor]

He even predicted the game. That was the coolest part for me. Like I was watching the baseball game game and it was like, well, I know Will Smith. Like, well, why are we even watching this? We already know.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

World series winning home run Will Smith. Just like Heavenly Hulkster said. I mean, it was pretty good. Honestly. There's a chance Heavenly Hulkster you might see him again?

[Boston Connor]

I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, feels like we might have threaded the needle here to find. Might seem around to kind of figure this whole thing out. What a run. I did see real American beer commented underneath. It was like, hell yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

He is. He made it. All right. Let's get the hell out of here. What day? It's a nice Wednesday. Yeah, it's a great Wednesday, though. It's like hot.

[AQ Shipley]

Is it?

[Pat McAfee]

Is it hot there?

[AQ Shipley]

It's warm.

[Ty Schmidt]

Is it, I don't know, unseasonably warm?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's warm.

[A.J. Hawk]

It's like high 50s, I think.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. 60.

[Darius Butler]

Beautiful.

[AQ Shipley]

64.

[A.J. Hawk]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

That's beautiful. Oh, so we got to see that side right now. Probably.

[AQ Shipley]

Bam.

[Pat McAfee]

See?

[Boston Connor]

Be careful. Say, Tebow, there are a lot of bugs in there.

[Ty Schmidt]

I figured there might be.

[Pat McAfee]

There's actually a wasp in.

[Ty Schmidt]

Oh yeah, that's right.

[Pat McAfee]

Somebody got stung by a wasp. I had no idea. That still happened in November. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's still taking place. Did you know those exist still?

[A.J. Hawk]

I did not. I thought, yeah. When do they usually die off or take on?

[Pat McAfee]

Get out of here. No way. November. They still survive. I had no idea. I seen one yesterday and then that some came back and did a sneak attack on somebody and all of a sudden. Oh my gosh. What was that? Stung in the face. Finger wasp or was a wasp. Wasp? Yeah.

[AQ Shipley]

Is there a wasp nest in there?

[A.J. Hawk]

Spray that sucker.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I think this is just a solo act.

[AQ Shipley]

Solo.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I think the wasp was all by itself.

[Boston Connor]

Hopefully.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[A.J. Hawk]

Vanessa's in the walls, most likely.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah, usually.

[Pat McAfee]

Most Worker and male wasps, they die in the fall as temperatures drop. But the queen wasps, well, they survived the winter by hibernating and starting new colonies in the spring. Wasps also die from old age. You know, these live to 12 to 22 days.

[Ty Schmidt]

What a waste of a life.

[Darius Butler]

That's it?

[Boston Connor]

No, that's a worker wasp.

[Pat McAfee]

I guess it's two different. Because the worker wasp is the dog of the wasps.

[Boston Connor]

Plus, how long is a day in wasp years?

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah, it's a good point.

[Pat McAfee]

Starvation, predation, or environmental hazards like pesticide. I'll tell you what, the pesticides really flipped all these fuckers on their head. You think they tell each other, like, hey, y' all watch this shit go over there? Do you think, like, what do you think?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, definitely.

[Boston Connor]

I don't think so. Natural selection.

[Pat McAfee]

Really? How about birds? Don't you think birds have gotten dumber? Well, what's that?

[A.J. Hawk]

I. I know. I mean, I assume con man is still on the bird train.

[Darius Butler]

Technology has only gotten better, so I assume birds have only gotten smarter.

[Boston Connor]

Saw a lot of birds on, you know, telephone poles and wires. On my drive home yesterday, an unruly amount. So much I almost got on my car into a photo charging up.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. You think they're all strapped in?

[Boston Connor]

I mean, I'm not kidding. There was like 2,000 birds within a half mile.

[Pat McAfee]

You think there was a surge, A power surge?

[Boston Connor]

I just. Just. What's it about?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. You tell me. What are these bird. They're flocking. Huh? The birds like to flock? Is that what they like to do? Oh, that's. That's convenient. That's convenient. They all like to just stand on power cables. Fascinating.

[Boston Connor]

I mean, you've been seeing them flying in certain miracles, like together. It's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the birds. I'm just talking about birds nose diving into cars, remember? I don't know if they are. I always used to do that, flying.

[Ty Schmidt]

Into my windows, like all the time.

[Pat McAfee]

All the time. I'm like, how stupid are these? I know.

[A.J. Hawk]

You got clean windows. Got clean windows.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I guess. But also, I think maybe even dirty windows, these things will fly. They say they got bird brains. You know, that's obviously not a good thing, but shouldn't these things be talking to each other like, hey, don't fly in the houses, don't fly into cars.

[Ty Schmidt]

And stuff because we're talking high speeds. These things are dead. I mean, they're hitting their heads.

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Breaking their necks, exploding their skulls and then falling, you know, blood everywhere.

[A.J. Hawk]

Maybe it's on purpose. Maybe they want to. They want to end it. They don't want to get eaten by a bigger bird.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe. Well then maybe they need a little therapy bird somewhere to get out there and have them chirping a different tune.

[Ty Schmidt]

Legit.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, we need to have them kind of figure it out because big bird. I don't like having to explain. Mackenzie hit this bird. Yeah. Just was not supposed to fly into this thing. It did. It's dead.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Boston Connor]

Oh.

[Darius Butler]

Didn't the owl just fly into sh's house?

[Ty Schmidt]

He did.

[A.J. Hawk]

See, he's staying. Staying in the condo. He said.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, staircase, bro. Staircase.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[Ty Schmidt]

Owls are mean sons of. You cannot things in your house.

[Pat McAfee]

You remember the Staircase?

[A.J. Hawk]

That was his defense, right?

[AQ Shipley]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And it. I'll tell you what that guy had.

[A.J. Hawk]

He led a. He led a colorful life. You find in that document documentary.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, you do. We had the. We had the lawyer.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah.

[A.J. Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Remember this?

[Boston Connor]

No.

[Darius Butler]

Who, Who?

[Pat McAfee]

Have you ever seen the Staircase?

[Darius Butler]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

Guy in North Carolina. Wife ends up dead in his house. He's the only one there. Obviously he gets accused of it. There's a lot of shenanigans, a lot of shenanigans in this entire thing. It's crime, Doc. Inevitably his defense was that an owl flew in, grabbed her by her screen skull and she tripped down a staircase and died. Yeah, that was his defense.

[Darius Butler]

And it was a lawyer. Did he defend.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean the lawyers defended him. Yeah. And said he was the one. He was the one telling the entire story about how this was possible. Cuz these owls are aggressive. Yeah. Goals. I think so. Yeah. If my. My memory serves me accurately, grabbed her hair skull and then she tripped down staircase because of it or something. Wow.

[AQ Shipley]

I'm going watch this on the flight home.

[Darius Butler]

It's a hell of a story.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a good dog.

[A.J. Hawk]

I think it's like three or four part series.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. It was during the Tiger King had a run, then this had a run, then a staircase had a run. It was like one of those takes.

[A.J. Hawk]

A few turns aq that you might not be expecting.

[Pat McAfee]

Perfect. Can't. What I need is he free?

[Darius Butler]

I don't want to spoil it.

[Pat McAfee]

No, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Ty Schmidt]

Can't spoil it.

[AQ Shipley]

Can't spoil it.

[A.J. Hawk]

All right.

[Pat McAfee]

Just know that the lawyer that is representing him is the star of the show.

[Ty Schmidt]

He's pretty good.

[Darius Butler]

And he came with a program.

[Pat McAfee]

Hell yeah. Oh, yeah. Reached out name the HBO version. They made.

[Boston Connor]

They made a show out of it on it.

[A.J. Hawk]

That's a scripted one.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, okay.

[Boston Connor]

Yeah. So that's like the TV show they're talking about, the documentary on Netflix, I believe.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Netflix.

[Boston Connor]

But yeah, this. This thing did two different shows. That's when you know.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what you know. It's a good story. And these owls, these things watch your. If you're.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Dead. They take animals too. It's not a who, it's a what. What's that?

[AQ Shipley]

They take animals too. They always say, hey, make sure your.

[Boston Connor]

Cats are locked up.

[AQ Shipley]

Don't let them out back. Or they're going to just disappear from.

[Pat McAfee]

An owl still come down and she's, see you later. They do. They do a little owl talking.

[Darius Butler]

Their heads do like full turn all the way.

[Pat McAfee]

They blink is weird. You learn a lot about Alice.

[Boston Connor]

300 degrees, I believe.

[Pat McAfee]

Almost all the way. Like these ptzs.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Get caught right at the end. All right.

[A.J. Hawk]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

Pretty good show today. Staircase is worth it.

[Ty Schmidt]

It is.

[AQ Shipley]

I'm on it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I'm watching it.

[Darius Butler]

Day two.

[Pat McAfee]

What is the lawyer's name? David.

[Ty Schmidt]

David Rudolph.

[Pat McAfee]

There it is. David Rudolph. What year was that?

[Ty Schmidt]

That had to have been, man. Was that before COVID That might have been before.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I think it was before.

[A.J. Hawk]

They were everywhere. Cameras were everywhere. And all the meetings he was having in the jail, like every. Like, cameras were allowed everywhere.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, David Rudolph. Pretty good juice. We remembered your name since 2019. That's pretty good. Little long time. He did. You wait till you watch it. You'll be like, yeah, this guy is the guy. He's the guy. If I ever have anything, this is the guy. I would like to call this guy.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Pat McAfee]

He's smooth talker, this guy. He's got ideas, but also a lot of personality, a lot of charisma, a lot of, you know, a lot of that stuff. It's what you need in a store. Hey, you want to try to throw a football into a hoop or what?

[Ty Schmidt]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, Penn State doesn't have a head coach yet.

[Darius Butler]

Oh.

[Pat McAfee]

But maybe if you make this football in to a hoop, they'll hire a coach and 25 random people will win $500.

[AQ Shipley]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

AQ. All you got to do is do better than you've done over the last few weeks. And you just got to put this ball, baby Duke 2.0 into that hoop right over there. Now, there's steel net, you know, obviously chain link net out there. So if it goes through, it's going to sound cool, but maybe you should try to put a little bit of arc on this one. You've been kind of Attacking it. Ty, do you have anything to say to AQ before he attempts the impossible?

[Ty Schmidt]

I do. Stop messing with around aq. Put this thing in the bucket and then, you know, celebrate as Billy Napier, his name. The new head coach of Penn State.

[Pat McAfee]

That's possible. I mean, who knows right now with the coaching options that are out there. Debut has some words of encouragement for you.

[Darius Butler]

A Just step into it. Let it rip. You saw Jacob Brissette do it. Just do exactly what Jacobe did.

[Pat McAfee]

AJ Hawk said, you know what, aq, maybe you do look like Jacoby Brissette. Maybe you are able to make it. And his final note to you before you attempt to the impossible aq is this.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yeah. Aq, I think you remember, isn't it aq, who does very well when he gets his snap and he kind of takes a drop. Like not one of your static. You need to be moving because you're an athlete. We know that. We used to drop step dunk on old buddy whatever his name was back in high school.

[Pat McAfee]

He didn't dunk on.

[Boston Connor]

He did.

[Pat McAfee]

He did not dunk on his fat. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Big boned and big. Big bellied and big.

[Darius Butler]

That too.

[Pat McAfee]

He's like Chuck. Oh, oh, here we go. 25 people, $500. All he's got to do is mainstream. Give a cadence. You.

[A.J. Hawk]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, no cadence. Silent count. Short drop. Back pocket's going to collapse for sure. Misses the backboard. Bonus ball. Bonus ball. Bonus ball's gone. Floor is lava. There's more balls here.

[Boston Connor]

Don't.

[J.J. Watt]

Don't die.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay?

[A.J. Hawk]

You don't have the runners on.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley, a Super bowl champion player coach for their Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Formerly of the Arizona Cardinals as well the Indianapolis Colts, the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Philadelphia Eagles will attempt the impossible as Boston Connor gives him a message of positivity.

[Boston Connor]

Remember when you would make your shots with the basketball where you just pick the ball up and throw it, but every time you lined it up, it would be the worst fucking shot imaginable. Just. Yeah, just lean back and fucking spin that.

[Pat McAfee]

Now. Now that you're thinking about not thinking about it, why don't we think about making that shot? 25 people, $500. A maybe a hiring at Penn State for the good of the people. Fade away. Want a little sauce on it?

[Boston Connor]

That was good. Good distance.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, you're in saucer city.

[Ty Schmidt]

That's right.

[Boston Connor]

Awesome sauce.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that? D butt. You think he's trying to miss?

[Boston Connor]

I don't know.

[Darius Butler]

That wasn't that wasn't even close.

[AQ Shipley]

I mean, you're giving away a lot.

[Pat McAfee]

Of money on the weekends. Okay, see, this is what we need. Integrity in the games. I'm trying. We already got a little controversy brewing with you, ball. Sure, okay. Maybe people mailing it in when they have certain teammates so they don't with the person.

[A.J. Hawk]

Who'S doing that.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm not saying names. We all saw it. We don't like it. This can't become what it is. Guy throwing it through the backboard, it's like you're not even trying to make it. You're not. We know you're not.

[A.J. Hawk]

You gotta lift your teammate up. You gotta lift him up.

[Pat McAfee]

And then accidentally not jumping the tip. Oh, missed it. Can't have it. Not in U. Ball. We'll sort that out. Just like Dana White said. We're go to the FBI.

[Ty Schmidt]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you see his answer? His response, aj? Oh yeah, he was, he was trying to set the. Hey, enough with this. This cannot become what we are. Cuz he understands as a man who is running the the sports league, anytime integrity is questioned to sports league, you potentially lose Sports league, okay, completely like if people don't think it's fair competition, people don't aren't interest, let let alone the gambling side of it. Okay, that's a whole another animal. But whatever. Fans and people on teams, everything, it's just like you, you potentially lose everything. And as soon as Dana hears about this and this becomes a big storyline, I appreciate him saying that. They were told there were some abnormal betting patterns on this one particular fight by IC360, which is their independent consultant for gambling tracking bets that he employs for the UFC to track to make sure there isn't any fuckery, basically is what he said. So they. And he calls and says to the camp like, hey, we're hearing about this. What's going on? Fighter says, nope, we're not doing any of that. I can't wait to win then. First round loss, rear naked choke. With the way it looks. Dana says he calls the FBI immediately and says, hey, we were told that this was potentially a thing. We reach out, we talk to him. They said, absolutely not. We told him, we heard about it, this happens, we think you should look into it. And then he said he talked to Cash and then an entire fleet of FBI people were in his office chatting about it. So. So Dana White is coming out very loudly about like, hey, this fucking is not happening here. And if you want to roll the dice, there's a chance like Actual jail time, hard time. This is going to ruin your life. So I think he's trying to play defense here for future situations as well as settle this particular one because he knows what's at stake here, A.J.

[A.J. Hawk]

Well, yeah, you can't let it linger, like, the longer you don't address or you don't say much about it. Like, people just run with it, I think. And so the fact that he's trying to jump in, get ahead of me.

[AP Tone]

But yeah, he.

[A.J. Hawk]

He knows, like, that's one of the only things I feel like that can bring huge franchise like that down or at least take huge losses. If people truly think this isn't legit, like, they're not. They're all manipulating everything.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's not a good vibe that could potentially be in there. So he's trying to cut it off. Now. People say, well, you like to gamble all the time. It's different. Okay. And I know everybody, like, throws that in there together. It's like, got to keep that separated. It has to be for the good of sport. And I know it's easily accessible now, now for the common person, but the people that are performing the act just can't do it for good of everything. Literally can't happen. Literally can't happen. Can't happen. Feels like there's a chance it happens. Which I'm starting to worry about you both, too. You got guys throwing games.

[Ty Schmidt]

Kidding.

[J.J. Watt]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Well, the rat insider, I'm sure they'll leak it out who's doing what.

[Pat McAfee]

Is it the insider we hate or they're rats.

[AP Tone]

He'll probably have the information wrong, too.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean?

[Darius Butler]

Aren't they kind of wanting.

[Pat McAfee]

Just saying. Well, I definitely think that Schultz and.

[Boston Connor]

Shefty ain't the same, bro.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I think there's definitely levels to insider and the U Ball insider seemingly has a monopoly on the entire thing.

[J.J. Watt]

He does.

[Darius Butler]

True.

[Pat McAfee]

He's really the only insider. But is. Is he the problem or the person that's giving him the information to pro that. That's kind of the question. It's dog chase tail here, you know, Dog chase.

[Boston Connor]

Morgan Wall is a problem still. Oh, yeah, still.

[Pat McAfee]

Still the problem. Tour tickets available, I think coming up very soon. Coming to Indianapolis. Two nights they were.

[AP Tone]

They went on the two nights. Friday night went on sale today. My wife got in the queue. She was number 230,000 in the queue to get tickets for Friday night at Morgan Wall. I don't think we're going to make it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, sounds like you're going to have to Hope and a prayer, that entire thing there. But hope and a prayer is not what. The insider is operating off of a new ball. He's going off his facts. I do believe. Tony, you said that he's getting facts wrong. What do you mean by that?

[AP Tone]

I can't remember what report was. I think it was that Bone left me for AQ to join the fat SOS team or whatever. I was never partners with Bone. I was partners with aq. So actually, AQ was the backstabber in this situation.

[AQ Shipley]

I don't know why you threw fat so in. It doesn't say that in the tweet at all.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't come up with a team name. You guys, look at the graphic.

[Ty Schmidt]

That looks pretty official.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, AQ's in there. AQ. You're part of the problem, bro.

[AQ Shipley]

There I am.

[Boston Connor]

Story.

[AQ Shipley]

That's pretty good technique right there. You see that?

[Boston Connor]

Looks like it's on the line.

[AQ Shipley]

No, it's behind.

[Pat McAfee]

He's got those shoes.

[A.J. Hawk]

Sorry.

[AP Tone]

You guys can play together.

[Pat McAfee]

I found a different partner.

[AP Tone]

A better partner.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, exactly. What? So you were frustrated? Okay, so insider guy. Right again. All right. Why don't you come out here, Ton? Why don't you come out here, Tone? I didn't like the thought of people trying to lose so they didn't have to team up with somebody again. I'll tell you what. Yesterday, Foxy and I had another day of Foxy and I, you ball. And. And there was a team of debut and Tone that were together. I'll tell you what. That. That sparked a little something in us knowing that we could maybe lose the title of these boys 100%. We had to lock in and ended up being the shortest game in U Ball history, which goes to both teams because a lot of shots were made there. That's right. Three and a half minutes we had four, six in the first. Top of the first. Foxy and I.

[A.J. Hawk]

You guys are on fire. You guys are on fire.

[Darius Butler]

Voxy fought through some adversity too.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he pulled his calf, dude. Yeah. What the hell is that? Foxy put his calf. My cr. Or my calf started cramping up in the middle of the game. Yeah, he almost had an Achilles here on U ball. That's a real deal. The insider would have got numbers if that would. If he would have been reporting that. Bruce, they're kind of questioning everything about what you do for U ball, brother. I don't like it at all.

[Stanford Steve]

It's all right. You know, we'll just keep our nose to the ground looking for any stories. There was also a. A close call. I've been waiting to update the people.

[Pat McAfee]

On where there was a.

[Stanford Steve]

A, I guess a vicious kick volley.

[Pat McAfee]

You would describe that almost decapitated Ty Schmidt. Yeah. And we will certainly have to put that story out today. You can follow along at. Bruce Brian, the official insider for U Ball. And there was one of the funniest situations that I've ever been a part of. And I'll tell you what, people are getting after it and U Ball trying to win some games and all we're trying to do is celebrate the hell out of sports. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing. Thing together. Aq. Anything to say here before we get out of here?

[AQ Shipley]

Full steam ahead in Arizona, boys. We know our guy for the next couple of weeks at least. Let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. It's Arizona Cardinals super fan and color commentator A.K. shipley talking about Jacoby Brissette being the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals, who are currently 2 and 7. 3 and 6. Something like 3 and 6.

[AQ Shipley]

Let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

3 and 6. But have it all in front of us, just like everybody does. Let's never forget that everything's always in front of us because it has to be team on me, team on three. One, two, three, Team goodbye.