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Pat McAfee
Move along to a Sport. Congrats to G1. Having a great season. Nobody saw it? No. Who won?
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Tyler
Lando Norris.
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Pat McAfee
Again, Orlando. This guy cheats every time.
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Connor
Also, do not pass on congratulations.
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Pat McAfee
Who? Lando did not. No.
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Connor
Me to F1.
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Dan
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
You're saying everybody else saying congratulations or claps. You say not.
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Connor
No, not tied.
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Adam Schefter
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
It is football season. And on that note, you know, in most football situations, there's a first 15. It is a scripted first 15 plays that offensive coordinators have to kind of see how the defense will react to the their different formations and styles. It's very important to an entire game. So whenever you see a team go on a field and go three and out, that really just kicks them right in the balls. Because the rest of the game was going to be dependent upon how those first 15 plays were going. Those first 15 plays, well thought out. Well thought out. Oh, yeah. Lot of conversation, lot of decisions are made. And for us, we wanted to have the same thing because this is a ball show. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for our overreaction Monday. First 15. Now, this is driven by ram. And if you hit the gas pedal of a ram truck, the only thing going to hear is and the only thing you're going to feel like is king. Because Ram trucks have the power you need and the luxury you deserve. Ram trucks. Okay, now let's get to our first 15. Now put the clock up, please. What we're going to do differently. See? See?
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Connor
Yes.
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Dan
Oh, okay.
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Pat McAfee
Yes.
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Mike
Second half.
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Tyler
Okay.
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Adam Schefter
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. You see, we're getting better time of possession here. Yeah. First half of the season here. We're kind of bad. We're still in it. You know, we're still playing meaningful football games in November. We're not sellers at the trade deadline by any means, but we certainly weren't just dominating, you know, because we kept saying, first, it's not about the time, it's about the plays. But then we put a 15 minute clock up there and everybody's like, hey, it's 42 minutes. So what's the clock for? And we said, you know what, you're right. Instead of counting down, we need to give no barriers to ourselves. Yeah. We need to explore everything in this first 15. Why would we be setting up a three and out? Why would we be setting up a slowdown of any good conversation, a stoppage of any play that we need? So we're starting at zero. We're counting up. Let's see how long today goes. Let's get this thing started with the top five Headlines coming out of the NFL slate number five, not all ass teams are ass all the time. Now, what are you saying by that? Well, what I'm saying is some of these teams we've all just deemed ass, we say, oh, that squad there, ass. That team right there, not worth a damn. That team can't beat any team, let alone an NFL team or a good NFL team. And what we need to remember, D. BU And I think this does get forgotten about whenever it comes to maybe the larger scale of football fans and NFL fans. These are all professional athletes who are paid to try to play football good and to strategize against other teams just like the good squads. So whenever we were 2 and 14, whenever we lost for 2 and yeah, 2 and 14, whenever we got Andrew Luck, there was like nine games, there were one score games that if the ball just so happened to and then pop up into some guy that played one NFL game in his life, this particular game, and he just goes into the end zone, we win that game. So it's like, I think people just start to decide if a team is good and can win or if a team is bad and can't win any game. And then you kind of just toss away any of the wins that happen throughout the season with the bad teams. And then if they end up beating a team, oh my God, full panic. It happened down there in Miami with the Buffalo Beatles. Now, Josh Allen has struggled in Miami in the past. We all do recall a couple bad games for Josh down in Miami that would continue. And his Miami Dolphins team, we all call ass, this team's ass. Instead, they still got Waddle. And allegedly there were some teams, including the Buffalo Bills, that were looking for Waddle. Even a in 2027 was offered up from a couple teams for Waddle because of how incredible he is at football. But we all think he's really good. He needs to get the hell out of there because they're a bad team. And here they are on a Sunday and they're beating the Buffalo Bills. And not just beating them, pounding them all three phases. There was a moment in the fourth quarter, it was 16 nothing in fourth quarter. There was a moment there where Josh Allen scores a touchdown. And it's like, hold the phone, wait a minute. Has Josh Allen finally got over his Miami flu? Is Josh Allen potentially about to turn this entire thing around? Are the Buffalo Bills about to do to the Miami Dolphins what we all expect to do? Just steal their joy and their hope in the fourth quarter? And the Miami Dolphins answered dbut I mean, it was an ass kicking. Even when the bill started, the Dolphins would answer. Everybody says their ass. Maybe they're not ass all the time.
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Tyler
And you mentioned it and they hear it, they hear it every day about how ass they are. Not only players, but the coaches. Who's getting fired next, who's getting traded? Obviously the trade deadline is over now, but the way these boys showed up, starting with hn, absolute game breaker ran through them and it's the only place that the Dolphins beat the Bills. You mentioned that earlier as well. And this was kind of a. A ugly weather game. It didn't show through on the camera much, but this was kind of some rain on and off, some sloppy. I love this. I know a lot of people have a lot of thoughts about this or they're acting like they won the super bowl. But hey, winning. Winning is an amazing feeling. You mentioned every week in the NFL is talented coaches. It's talented players. You know, we got so break dances and. And my initial reaction was like, oh, this is too much. This is this. But then I'm like, okay, I'm an old guy. I haven't been in the locker room. These are. You're coaching 20 to 30 year olds and you're excited about the win and you want to be excited about the win. So I love this, what I saw, not only on the field from the Dolphins, but off the field because Mike McDowell, he's been getting on the shins all year long. So for him to have his boys come out and compete against the team that everybody picked, I'm sure a bunch of survivor picks.
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Pat McAfee
Oh yeah.
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Tyler
Lost a bunch of parlays or straight up wins. So unbelievable outing by the Dolphins at home. Very impressed with this outing.
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Pat McAfee
This was Miami's first win versus Bill since 2022. Han went off 174, six reception, 52 yards and two touchdowns. Dolphins defense forced two fumbles, one interception and up with three sacks. That's a hell of a day. After trading away Jalen Phillips and also sending away all your best talent. Hembo sent over a stat about this Bills rush defense. Week one. Derrick Henry one for 169. Bijon one for 170. And then a chain goes for 174. If you want to win. Hey, if you want to win in the playoffs, they're gonna have to figure that out. They are gonna have to figure that out. Now, obviously these types of games are certainly possible for teams and no fans want them to see them. But only one team in the history of the NFL has gone undefeated. Okay. It's a 1972 dolphins. Every once in a while, professional athletes are gonna show up and put it together. And when that happens, they can beat anybody. That is kind of what the NFL has kind of been built upon. Parody, parody, parody. Any given Sunday on yesterday. On yesterday's particular Sunday. Good for you. One half of the hammer. Cowboys. Bubble gumpy. How's it feel to be have a victory Monday here with the boys? Are you riding in the laundry rack?
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Dan
Yeah. This is what the Dolphins look like after Chris Greer's gone. That team still believes in Mike McDaniel. You saw it in that video Anthony Weaver called the best game he's had all year. Minka had a stop on that two point conversion. Just stuffed the guy at the line. Best the defense has looked all year. Jake Bailey dropped one at the 1. All three phases. Just unbelievable from the Finn.
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Pat McAfee
So a GM and a president is hated. This bad in the building. Oh, my God. Thank God he's gone. That's what it's like down there. Feels like there was a new energy. And McDaniel, I mean, the way he's feeling, the way they're responding to him, it feels like there's like a hey, we're behind you type vibe. Good for the Dolphins. Now this could all change. Yeah, true. This could all just be, you know, take it in, boys.
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Connor
It's a good week.
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Pat McAfee
Take it in, boys. This is the NFL. This is literally the NFL in a nutshell. And also down in Miami later in the year, we got snow on the ground out here going down into Miami. The humidity that also plays effect. And also there is a Miami flu. Have all been done. There's a lot of distractions. That's why we think it's going to be hard for the Dolphins to win. Other teams have also struggled down there as well.
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Connor
I mean, like make a Fitzpatrick bringing it. I don't know if that was his first game as a Miami Dolphin, but I know he's been out for a little bit, him being back. And then, I mean, Ty dropped a bar about Jalen Phillips being out of the building. Like you would assume, you know, trading your best player. Jalen Phillips on defense, at least there might be a little bit of a, you know, fall off, but like not at all. If anything though, you know, you just said it. That was the best their defenses looked.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Congrats to the Dolphins. Get a big win. And to the Bills. Okay. These types of losses, open your eyes to what's possible in the bigger games down the road. They're going to have to get that fixed. And then you go to the NFC South. Who's ass down there? Saints. Well, who's not ass this year? Maybe Panthers Go football team winning record Saints. Tyler Schuck, 75 year old rookie out of Louisville. Dog absolute beast. They get no turnovers or something like that. I forget he had a bunch of rookie records for how he performed. Kelly Moe might have a guy. And when they drafted him, I think it was like third round or something like that. Whenever they drafted him, they forgot. They acted like this was a starter. And everybody was like, well, if this is your starter, why wouldn't you draft him early? It's like, well, we knew what his value was. We knew how people viewed him. They liked him very, very early. He gets a win over the Carolina Panthers and a team that's 1 in 8 somehow beats a team that's 5 and 4 and 1 in 18. We all said was ass and we're dead. They get a huge win over there. You know, kind of new favorites around town. You know, we're not doing the pumps anymore. No, we're not doing any pumps anymore. Hey, all right, we're out of here. Got him. Got a message from Keegan. You know, Canales is talk of the town. Rico Dowdle might be the best player in football. All of a sudden, Carolina is up and to the right in a huge way. And the New Orleans Saints just like their location on the map. Nobody was talking about them way down there. No, nobody. Hey, who are the ass teams? Well, the jets and Saints, they're real bad. They're the ones that we're talking about, like with a college football team now, I don't think any of this year's college football teams, well, maybe this Ohio State team, honestly, we have no idea. I mean, there's a chance they're the greatest of all time if they go through College Football Playoff the same exact way that they've been going through this season. And there is a chance people are going to do that. Ohio State could be NFL team.
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Tyler
No chance.
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Pat McAfee
Never could. By the way. That is not how it works. That is why people, like kind of get confused about how good NFL talent is. But the Saints would have been the team that was in that conversation whenever people started doing that later. If the Ohio State kind of runs it, them getting a big win is indicative of like, hey, when they show up, any team can be great.
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Tyler
Once again, another coach having his boys ready to go. Tyler Shuck, he was past the job. He earned the job, won the job Over. I guess Spencer probably played himself out of it, but he showed up. Chris Olavi, another guy who was loud on the trading block. He showed up and have had a big game as well in both of those games. The Dolphins Bills and then the Saints Panthers divisional games. So you notice whenever records, you got to throw those out the window when you're playing a team and a coach that's very familiar with those opponents.
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Pat McAfee
Eight minutes in. Still on the first one. Maybe we should have had the clock counting down instead of up. Tyler Schuck is the first Saints rookie to rookie rookie quarterback to win a game since Dave Wilson in 1981. He was good.
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Connor
Zach Wilson's poppy.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Pop his poppy.
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Connor
Oh, okay.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think. I think he was potentially fodder spotter thing. Arch. Arch had a tough time there with the ain'ts for a while.
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Mike
They did.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. They weren't the best football team. Arch dog though. Oh yeah. Everybody knows Arch was a dog. And yeah. The ain't the ain't had some times. And then obviously Drew Bren Payton come in. They beat a team in the super bowl with that kick on side kick started second half. They were losing at that time. There's a 22 year old kid that was on the other team. I thought he was getting a Super bowl and didn't even know how to do his own job. And didn't really have to contribute much, but got an A on the paper like he's Tyrese Halliburton at the Olympics instead. Yeah. On sidekick pick six. Wayne Ever going back. Hard times brother. But good for the Saints.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Little baby with a headset on. Oh, yeah. I walk into a locker room contributing nothing. No ability to save game either at any time during an entire thing. Kind of a spectator if you will, but would have got a ring. Walk in there devastated. Boy, can't imagine the most positive people I've ever seen in my life ruined in that locker room. And I didn't fully understand what was happening.
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Tyler
We'll be back next year.
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Pat McAfee
We weren't you're after year after that. No. We're almost completely defeated. Then all my friends were cut. GM was fired and we had Andrew Luck as quarterback. And what do we do?
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Tyler
Back we started. Started fighting back.
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Pat McAfee
Made playoffs.
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Connor
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Made the AFC championship. Oh my God. Then we did. Yeah. Then what happened?
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Connor
Then we did what happened and retired. AFC title again.
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Pat McAfee
How was it?
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Tyler
We got cheated.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. They're balls.
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Tyler
Still investigation why Andrew retired.
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Pat McAfee
This is the balls Patriots. This balls Patriots are using. That's a bill Nye Science guy told me. That's Bill Nye Science guy told me. But nonetheless, really hard makes Super Bowl Saints win Super Bowl Finally. Hey, here it is. Here it is. Here it is. And then kind of all goes to hell this year. Supposed to be hell. Absolutely. But not all ass teams are assigned all the time.
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Mike
Exactly.
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Pat McAfee
That's number five. Ten minutes. It's got number four headline coming out of the weekend. NFC favorites fornicate four o' clock slate. Yeah, we all saw it. Let's go to our nation's capital. Detroit Lions pounded. Washington pounded. I mean just pounded the Washington commanders. At one point during this game in the third quarter, the President of the United States was in the booth and the Washington commander scored. And his first reaction was that's good for ratings, right? That's good. This is actually kind of a game now as opposed to what it was. The Detroit Lions with Dan Campbell calling plays were exactly what the Detroit Lions last year with Ben Johnson were calling plays. He had glasses on. I guess it wasn't easy to tell from watching the game that he was certainly calling plays while he was actually talking and Jared Goff was nodding his head like this and then jolly Mo up in the booth wasn't saying really anything but I guess couldn't. We didn't know for sure if he was calling plays. Turns out he was in. Their entire offense is good and their defense incredible. Kelvin shepherd, defense coordinator, first year teammate of ours. Obviously now running the show for Detroit on defensive side. Might be in a runner for that LSU job. I don't know if he wants it. Obviously he just got defense coordinator job in the NFL. That is a huge deal. One step away from an NFL head coaching job. I don't know if he. I've not directly asked him but lsu Kelvin Shepard could be possible. So the Lions could be dealing with another turnover of a coordinator, which was the entire question going in. New offense coordinator. He's don't. Dan Campbell's now calling place. So basically three offense coordinators in about two years. Right. If you go Ben Johnson, new Johnny Moe and Dan Campbell, defense coordinator. Obviously two in two years and they're still dominating and they're still at the top of the NFC and they're still ruining a 4 o' clock slate. What did you learn yesterday from the Detroit Lions?
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Tyler
Oh, you know what? Honest, I'm be honest with you. I didn't learn much. I knew they were a dominant team. I felt like the Detroit Lions are legit contender to win it all this year. Jared Goff just Kind of ho hum. Another great game by him. Over 300 yards. You got Jameer Gibbs going. He had day after having a bad outing last week against the Vikings. And then jmo. JMO made some noise, you know a couple weeks ago was some noise around him. Should I say about him not getting the ball, not been using the offense and Dan Campbell made it a point to get the ball probably in his first 15 to get the ball to number one and he. He made good with it. So he got targets, he made his big plays. But yeah, we know they are offensively and defensively the commanders just so, so bad. So it's. I didn't honestly, I didn't learn a team that's ass. This was the outco supposed to happen in my opinion.
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Pat McAfee
But not as all the time. Which is why exactly would do his thing. If they put it together, yes good team. But if not, they look like they look. And especially against the Detroit Lions. You're ready Foxy. There's some Hembo stats here about the Lions offense through nine games. And they make a change at the offense coordinator position in 2024. Ben Johnson obviously ends up getting hired as a head coach as the bell of the ball because he's an offensive genius. 2.7 points per drive, 46% scoring drive, 33 touchdowns, 10 turnovers, 20, 25, 2.8 points per drive, which is absurd by the way. A field goal every get the ball at least. Basically 47% drive score and 34 touchdowns, six turnovers. You guys are better than ever. And Dan Campbell's put himself in a driver's seat. What? What? Yeah, absolutely. I tell you what, everyone is fired up about this. They love that MCDC's calling plays. Jared Goff over 300 yards, three touchdowns. Jameer Gibbs 173 total yards, three touchdowns. JMO over 100 yards, a touchdown. LaPorta had five catches. St. Brown had five catches. Everyone was getting the rock. Everyone was loving what this offense was doing. And we're rolling now and we're not looking back anymore. Love you. Johnny Mone. He had a lot to do with this play calling. But this is MCDC's offense now. Okay? Yeah, MCDC says we got a lot of guys, man. We got a lot of guys, a lot of miles to feed. Everybody's coming in my office on Monday saying, Baltimore, you know what? I will scored on every single possession in the game. No turnovers. It was literally perfect. Yeah, I mean the stats saying you're scoring almost three points a drive is insane because there's Games where you have like three, four drives, you score obviously. So making up for those, it doesn't happen. Detroit Lions seemingly all the way back to who we thought they were offensively. Ty, you got to be scared to death this Detroit Lions team because if mcdc can just take over either coordinator position, it doesn't matter if they sub out. It doesn't matter if Kelvin Shepard ends up being the head coach at LSU if he wants that or any NFL job that potentially opens up. Because what he's been able to do with this defense so quickly because mcdc wants have offensive side here, bang, defensive side here. If he has to, that's what he's willing to do. That's got to be scary in the NFC North.
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Mike
I wouldn't say I'm scared to death because the packers have one in the hand already on the Lions. But again, that was Johnny Mo calling the plays, not mcdc. But I think yesterday just reaffirmed like there's been a lot of talk about the Bears because they've won several in a row. You know, the Vikings had, I mean, discount yesterday. Vikings with JJ and you know, BA said, hey, we might get four teams from the NSC north end. The packers are, you know what they are. But it's very evident that like when the Lions play their A to like B plus game, they are the best team in that division. They're still the team that you need to slay. So it'll be very interesting. But I just look at, I mean, you look at the like Bears are great right now. Obviously lions hung 50 on them and beat the out of them. The packers game, it is what it is. Week one. The Lions are a much different team when they meet again on Thanksgiving. And then the Vikings are whatever. But if the Lions can play like this, this it. You'd be hard pressed to find a team that's better than them in the NFL.
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Pat McAfee
Sonic and Knuckles. Sonic and Knuckles. Sonic and they got. They got a. They got Sonic and Knuckles everywhere.
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Mike
Yeah.
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Connor
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Wide receiver. We got Sonic and Knuckles. Tight end. We got Sonic and Knuckles. Running back. We got Sonic and Knuckles. And offensive play callers. We got Sonic. True. Yeah. Okay. We kind of got. Literally. And now some Lions fans are saying, well, there are some games you got. Yeah. But Sonic and Knuckles seemingly everywhere around the line. And then there's even a toughness to him that brings out other people to just punch him in the face.
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Dan
Exactly.
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Pat McAfee
Did you guys see this? I don't know if everybody saw this. He got suspended for a game for this. Just out of nowhere. No, look, kind of a little bit of a sneaker. A little sneaky, sneaky sneaker.
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Connor
Boom.
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Pat McAfee
Right to the button. Now he has a helmet on. Okay. So obviously you're gonna be protected. That's literally what the helmet's on for. That. But Amon Ross St. Brown's hands are down and he's walking a different direction. I'm not sure he knew a looping right was coming at his helmet. But I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. The NFL did not like it. The NFL did not like it. Immediately quit. Yup. They suspended. Can't have that. Especially when we got a lot of eyes on this because the President's going to be speaking in the third quarter. They're actually going to have him call play.
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Tyler
Oh, that's probably why he smacked. I probably didn't like to dance. Maybe just thought about it.
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Pat McAfee
Chris Sims had no idea. Somebody needs to tell him maybe what was going on. Hey, at the beginning of that highlight, they were trying to lead you to something there. Maybe it was.
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Tyler
I can't wait till I get next.
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Pat McAfee
Great dance, by the way. I remember the talk of the Town.
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Connor
I thought it was the opposite of that. I thought Darren. Darren Payne was more so saying, like, I ain't gonna just sit here and get blown out in front of President Trump. I'm gonna punch someone in the face.
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Pat McAfee
I love that.
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Connor
And then I don't have to play the rest of the game.
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Pat McAfee
So he knows you're saying.
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Connor
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Tell you what. A lot of people said a lot of mean things to me because I broke some news out of the White House. I thought I was journalist. What are we talking about? Journalism.
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Dan
They were meeting for breaking news.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. A lot of people saying, I was doing a lot of stuff. I was doing a lot of stuff. I mean, they're gonna be crazy. I can't wait to see how they react tomorrow. I can't wait to see how they react. Tomorrow's a big one. Yeah, tomorrow's a. It's not for the first 15 because tomorrow is full. 24 hours of honor and thanking. But I'll tell you, tomorrow is going to be. Tomorrow's going to be big. Hell, yeah.
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Connor
Historic.
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Pat McAfee
Happy birthday, Marines. Happy birthday, Marines. It wasn't just the Detroit Lions that made the 4 o' clock completely fornicated. Oh, no, no. There's two other options. And the NFC west said, we'll go ahead and take care of those for you. The Los Angeles Rams, dominant now. It did become a little bit of a Game. This one was one score game for a little bit and then Matthew Stafford goes ahead and hits the gas pedal at the end of this thing to put it away. This Los Angeles Rams team is special offensively. They're special. Obviously Puka Nakua is Puka Nakua. He might be the best wide receiver in football on any given day, whenever he's playing football, insanely tough, very quick vibes. Immaculate. Always wants to show up for his team. We love OOS they add Devonte Adams. So now coverages have to do what they have to do down the red zone. They're damn near unstoppable because you can't double Devontae because you got Puka on the other side. So Devontae's one on one either with your second or third corner and on the goal line. That's unstoppable. I mean it's absolutely. And Matthew Stafford does just that every time. This is their goal line play. It's every single week. Hey, Devonta, whatever the hell you want to do to the guy. If you want to go inside, you do it. You want to go outside, you do it. I'm going to hit you with the ball. They do it anytime time they're inside the three, it's their tush push. They got the hall of Fame right arm of Matthew Stafford and the hall of Fame release of Devonte Adams. They put that together and it's a touchdown creating machine. It's outrageous what they've been able to build, especially because whenever they started building this team, they went all in and lost all their picks. They lost all of their picks. They weren't looking for the future at all is how everybody was judging them. And now here we are in that particular future. They're young on defense, very good offense. They have weapons. And Matthew Stafford Looks like he's 14, 15, 16 years old again, spinning it all over the yard. Was it because of that tube he wanted to in training camp? This guy's outrageous. He's better than he's ever been.
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Tyler
Yeah, we're worried about him. Anytime you got an old player or quarterback coming into the season with a back injury, you're very, very worried. But he's playing probably the best football of his career. This is now three straight games where he's thrown four passing TDs and zero interceptions, which is insane in the National Football League. You talked about the players on the field. Obviously everyone has the talent. Talent, we talked about it. But then the coaching, coaching matters. And these are two coaches that are very familiar with each other. But Sean McVeigh has these boys rolling. Tom Brady, I think this was a great call. The freaking. No, look, I mean, he's the OG of that. He's been doing that for a long, long time. He makes it look so easy. This, I mean, go out and try this in your backyard with throwing a 7 and 8 year olds. This is tough to do, let alone on the NFL field. But yeah, Sean McVeigh has done a tremendous job. And Tom Brady made a great point about something they're doing with their offense. They're using a lot of, of 13 personnel and then getting matchups with these wide receivers against linebackers and safeties because they're facing base coverages as opposed to like nickel coverages.
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Dan
So since week four, you talked about the four plus passing touches, no intercept. Since week four, he has 20 passing touchdowns to zero interceptions.
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Pat McAfee
Jesus, he's hilarious.
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Tyler
Hey, that's the same.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, he got drafted. Our class. Look what we're doing.
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Connor
Yep, look what we are doing for a while.
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Pat McAfee
How long we've been doing this? We got drafted. I got drafted 221 picks apart from Matt Stafford.
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Tyler
I got 40 picks after to him.
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Connor
Damn.
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Pat McAfee
Damn. What the hell?
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Connor
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, dude, that's a good, that's a good signing bonus in that, in that economy.
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Tyler
Yeah, yeah, we had, we had, we had four. We had your teammate Donald Brown went first round. Yeah, I think he was a 27th pick maybe. And then we had Will Bey go to the Giants in the second round. And now Cody Brown go to the Cardinals in the second round.
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Pat McAfee
Donald Brown was a beast. I love that man. I hope he's good. We would all like to say what's up to him, but yeah, Matthew Stafford's only getting better somehow. It makes no sense. And his no look passes are getting more, more very like regular now. Like it's just average stuff. I think a lot more people are doing it. But he has, to everybody's point, been doing this for his entire career. Which is why ba, who's called the quarterback whisperer, said that Matthew Stafford was the only quarterback he'd go out and watch warm up. Because the shit he can do with it. Well, he's got weapons, he's got McVeigh calling the plays. And he can still do it. He's special right now. MVP at this age would be wild for Matthew Stafford.
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Connor
Yeah, it definitely deserves it. And I believe Brady said on the broadcast that he's never been an all pro quarterback, so locked that in for first team. But Brady also talked about how, you know, the no looks started with Calvin Johnson because like everyone knew, okay, it's Matt Stafford and Calvin Johnson on the lines. That's where the ball is going. So he just naturally started working on the no look passes. But aside from that, Deba brought up the 13 personnel like now that they can just roll out three tight ends. Higby Ferguson who was their second round pick from Oregon and Parkinson who scored that touchdown there. Like they can legitimately beat you on offense and I don't know how you can for it.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, let's talk about another team in the NFC west that can win it all. The Seattle Seahawks team is hilarious.
- [25:33]
Mike
Yeah, real deal.
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Pat McAfee
They are so good.
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Dan
Good football team.
- [25:35]
Pat McAfee
And we thought the Cardinals were good. We like the Cardinals. The Cardinals might still be good. They. They had a couple touchdowns they put up there. This was a boat race early. This was a lot of points to no points in Seattle and Jackson Smith and Jigba gets on the board early. I think he went down for a little bit. Something happened to something. Yeah, I don't remember. It was late in the thing. I think I saw a photo. Maybe not. Not I. Let's just act. If nobody else heard it or saw it, let's not even talk about it. We have a man on the phone here in about a minute and a half will be able to give us some updates at it all but the Seattle Seahawks. Outrageous how good they are. Sam Darnold so good on the ground, so good through the sky, so good defensively. Tough, hard nosed, signed gap control. It's like everything about him smells a st win a champion.
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Tyler
Another legit contender right here. We always start with the quarterback. Sam Darnold has been playing a very, very high level but this game got out of reach early because of defense.
- [26:26]
Pat McAfee
2.
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Tyler
Two fumble returns. I don't think this has happened in I don't know how long but DeMarcus Lawrence had two fumble. Same two players on the strip sack in the fumble return which is crazy. Jacoby Brissette kind of never had a chance. He was under duress all afternoon long.
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Pat McAfee
He'll stay in there whenever you in.
- [26:43]
Tyler
Possessions like that give the Seahawks extra possession, you got no chance. It's a tough tough ball club from the top to the bottom.
- [26:49]
Pat McAfee
Jacoby was staying in there and he certainly had. It was like seven sacks in the first half.
- [26:53]
Connor
There was right about him.
- [26:56]
Pat McAfee
Him being back is crazy. Just cuz J. Smith and Jigba is having the season that he's having. Oh yeah. Triple crown actually quadruple crown winner just from five Six years ago, also on the team and hopefully healthy for the entirety of the year. Congrats to the Seahawks. The NFC's favorites though have kind of separated themselves and tonight it's Eagles and Packers. So, you know, we're going to learn a lot here I think over the next few weeks, but it feels like we're starting to know who's who. In both the conferences, the NFC favorites dominated that 4 o' clock time slot and we all started doing stuff other than than watch the games. That was crazy.
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Connor
Big time.
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Pat McAfee
That's a weird thing. Three games, all of them bad, not good. That's why March madness has like 15 games on at the same time.
- [27:34]
Mike
Exactly.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, a couple of these going to be ass. We got to find a good one. We need that yesterday. Let's go to the number three headline. The sports books and Steelers fans knew, okay, sportsbooks had the Baltimore Ravens at like 2 and 4, 2 and 5 as the favorites to win the AFC north. When the Pittsburgh Steelers were 4 and 1 or whatever the hell it was. 5, 4 and 2, 5 and 2. Whatever the hell they were catching, they were way down early. Steelers spent all the money on the roster and were winning and sportsbooks did not budge. They're like, Baltimore Ravens are going to win the AFC North. This is how this is going to go for weeks and weeks. And I actually just thought it was so preposterous that I'm like, well this sounds like it has to be right. So I've literally only picked the Ravens just because it's like the time travelers who do the sports books things are saying this is going to happen. And lo and behold it seems like it is happening. Lamar Jackson and the Ravens getting very, very good. Okay, very a couple turnovers from J.J. mcCarthy. Obviously the defense is only going to get better from where they started this entire thing. And Lamar Jackson, after he goes ahead and takes the ping pong tables and the cornhole board and everything out of the locker room, comes back from his hamstring injury completely locked in. Connor. Connor is giving a great face right now because Obviously Drake may JJ McCarthy conversations are going to happen. JJ will miss. He will miss by a lot. He will miss by a lot. He's got to get better with his actions accuracy, which I think is possible. If you go back to like Josh Allen, there's a chance he's able to do that. Has competitive spirit, all that. He misses a lot of throws by a lot, but he also makes throws out of nowhere that shouldn't be made. On that note, Baltimore Ravens.
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Dan
First off. That's not J.J. either.
- [29:13]
Connor
That's not.
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Pat McAfee
You're right. It's his. It's his on field. Maybe we need to see JJ. Maybe JJ's the NFL version.
- [29:22]
Dan
Yeah.
- [29:23]
Pat McAfee
Maybe nine isn't in the NFL. Maybe nine retired with a national championship. A lot of will 11 Michigan. There's. But in the leadership sense, he has a lot of Tom Brady. That's right. Okay. So there's a lot of things you can look at that I'll look on the other side. Baltimore Ravens are real. And the Baltimore Ravens, the sportsbooks knew they were going to be good. Lamar Jackson feels good. A lot of losses early. They're going to be chasing all season. That's good motivation for that team. And then the Pittsburgh Steelers get a huge win over the Indianapolis Colts. Makes me as a Colts fan. Don't worry, you'll see number one of the headlines here. You'll see exactly where I'm at. Makes me as a Colts fan, question some things. But we had six turnovers. Like that's not going to be a normal day. But the Pittsburgh Steelers forced those things. You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers made great plays. It's like maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers are a team that we need to think about going forward. That's how I felt after the Colts game last night. Halftime. I said, fuck this, I'm going to bed. You weren't still, I'm going to bed. I'm not staying up for this shit. I mean, it was not good last night, but we think the Chargers are a good football team as well. But it feels like Steelers fans have been waiting for this particular game, especially on prime time.
- [30:26]
Dan
Yeah. There was about a week ago when I looked at the schedule to see what time this game was. Oh, it's a prime time game. This is not going to go well. I don't know why things don't go well in prime time for the Steelers as of late, but they don't specifically on the offensive side of the ball, anything that could go wrong did go wrong last night. It was Aaron Rodgers worst game of the season by far. Wasn't even close. Was overthrow and DK was under throwing guys. That was not even. That was an overthrow for an interception. Boz missed a field goal inside 50:45.
- [30:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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Dan
Soon as Boz missed the field goal, I knew the night was over. The defense played well. I mean they held the chargers to what, 12 points in the. In the fourth quarter.
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Connor
Quarter.
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Tyler
Good route.
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Dan
But yeah, after, after boss missed in halftime, I said, I know what this team's going to do in the second half and it's not going to be good. So I, I turned it off. This team is not going to ruin my night and tomorrow.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so I, I like that you said that. I like you said. But but on that note, that's what Steelers fans have been saying about the Steelers team even whenever they've had the winning record. Debug.
- [31:21]
Tyler
Yeah. Steelers fan. I give them this they know ball even when they were 11 and all those years ago like, ah, no, this ain't a real, this ain't a Super bowl winning team.
- [31:29]
Pat McAfee
Steelers fans are very, very truthful.
- [31:31]
Tyler
They're knowledgeable know how they're going to show up on prime time. But I was surprised with this outcome because of because the Steel Curtain showed up. Now it is true. It was only because the 05 team was there because this.
- [31:44]
Pat McAfee
The hell. Okay. Because.
- [31:49]
Tyler
Jack car here.
- [31:50]
Mike
Oh no.
- [31:51]
Connor
He better be.
- [31:53]
Pat McAfee
Zeno's on the run, baby. Thank you, Zeno.
- [31:58]
Connor
The thing didn't close either.
- [32:00]
Pat McAfee
The fire trap. Well, that is actually, I think that is sports media telling us through we have breaking news. Brian Dabel has been fired as the New York Giants head coach in the middle of the first 15 here our alarms were sirening off because hey, there's breaking news. Stop talking about the Pittsburgh Steelers losing the Chargers. You lost enough of your life watching that game last night. Pivot to some breaking news. The New York Football Giants are moving on from their head coach. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, a senior NFL insider for ESPN Michigan man, Adam Schefter. She I know you were kind of waiting for us to finish while you were breaking that news. Did you expect that was coming this morning or is this kind of come out of nowhere for you? Shefty?
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Adam Schefter
No, I think that we kind of had a sense that this was possible. We knew this was coming. And Pat, our timing has been impeccable over the last week where basically you're getting me honest with. We got Sauce Gardner being traded, Rashid Shahid being traded. Quinn and Williams was coming down last week.
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Pat McAfee
Remind you of all the things I've done here. See you.
- [33:12]
Adam Schefter
It is, it is just Brian Gable who's been dismissed. That is the only one. And interesting here, this is, this is pretty amazing when you look at it. The Giants interim head coach, whoever that will be be, will be their sixth head coach since 2016.
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Pat McAfee
She okay, so that's nine years ago. Sixth head coach. Obviously a lot of turnover. We saw the hard knocks behind the scenes in the off season. Whenever you know, Mara comes in and Shane talks about moving on from Saquon to go in with Danny Dimes. We've seen Day Ball run the meetings basically for all of their picks that they've done at the combine in the draft process. Day Ball knew this was a make or break season. Is that why he potentially win wanted Aaron Rodgers, maybe his quarterback, Russell Wilson as a quarterback, Jameis Winston as a quarterback, like a veteran quarterback to be able to go on a run. And what does this mean for Jackson Dart in a development of the future here she in your eyes?
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Adam Schefter
Well, I think here's the deal. Jackson Dart has been evaluated for four concussions this year. Four. And so the biggest thing this team can do is make sure it's protecting its quarterback back. We've got a quarterback that has been evaluated for concussions. We've got a team that has blown double digit leads in four different road games. They are the inverse of the Chicago Bears. They've been in position to win all these games and haven't gotten it done. And I think that at some point in time you make the decision that we're not going to move forward with this guy. I think this is a team also that put so much money and time and investments and picks into its defense. And the defense is one of the worst in the league right now. And so I think that they feel like they need a reboot here and they made the decision to move on from Brian Dabel. We'll see who the interim head coach is. I'm trying to think of the candidates on staff. Mike Kafka is the offensive coordinator. He might be a candidate here to take over as the head coach though they may want him to concentrate on the offense, in which case it would be the special teams coach.
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Mike
So.
- [35:28]
Adam Schefter
Yeah, but Brian Dabel becomes the second head coach let go this year following Brian Callahan and Tennessee.
- [35:34]
Pat McAfee
You talk about the defense and having all these players supposed to be good and being dreadful, then it makes you automatically go to Shane. So Shane not. They're not moving on from Shane right now. You say the general manager.
- [35:44]
Adam Schefter
Do we think he's right? Now I'm told that Brian Dabel is the only one I. Look, I think it's fair to assume that when you're firing the head coach, everybody is going to come under review. Everybody. What they do with that, we'll see. That'll be up to John Maris, Steve Tisch and others. But obviously they felt like this was a move that they had to make today.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, we appreciate the insight and thank you for joining us here immediately. We've talked about a few things in this top five headlines. Do you mind if we go to number two? Two right now?
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Adam Schefter
While you're on here, what is number two?
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Pat McAfee
More visible picture at the MVP picture. It feels like there is now a three horse race for the MVP in Drake May, Matthew Stafford and Jonathan Taylor. First we'll go with Drake May. Unbelievable for his second year, second head coach, second offensive coordinator. 3. If you go back three years for him, back to college, he is leading this Patriots year. I mean it is fucking fun to watch. Had him early, you know, it feels like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Todd Bowles defense had him early because I was reading Connor's tweets about it. It's like, whoa, tough day with Todd Bowles right now. Tough day. Then he makes this throw with a guy about to hit him. Has to be a touch pass with like a quarter throw and it's like this dude is special. Special. And it's not just us saying that. Schefter sportsbooks have him as the odds on favorite to win the mvp. That is insane to think about at this stage. Matthew Stafford, we just talked about being immaculate. And then Jonathan Taylor, this dude's special. 250 yards or whatever it was in Germany yesterday. He's been doing it all season. There's a lot of stats and factoids about what he's been doing versus Adrian Peterson and Adrian Peterson's MVP season up to this point, obviously what the teams were. 8 and 2, 6 and 4. He has 17 touchdowns. I had to, I, I thought we had had a. Seven touchdowns, 1399 yards from scrimmage, 1283 yards from scrimmage. So what Jonathan Taylor is doing is obviously historic and obviously better than an MVP season was for a running back in the past. Adrian Peterson we all have massive respect for as a football player. He was untackleable and Jonathan Taylor's the same damn thing. And when Jonathan Taylor gets any space, he's gone. He is winning games for the Indianapolis Colts and you got everybody on that. You know, Zaire at the end of that 44 was saying you're the best player in the world. Literally on camera. I got a text from Daniel Jones, said we got the best player on earth than Jonathan Taylor. He said life is good with him. Nobody expected this from the Colts. Adam Schefter and I don't know if anybody expected this from Jonathan Taylor either. If you're a voter, which I don't know if you are or not, are you going to give it to a running back? Shefte or is this just a quarterback award? You think through and through.
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Adam Schefter
Well, here's number six. You, Pat, if we go back the last 12 years. 12, okay. The quarterback has won the Most Valuable Player, by the way, Mike Kafka, officially the interim head coach for the New York Giants. Mike Kafka, the interim head coach for the New York Giants. He takes over for Brian Dabel, who was let go here this afternoon. I want to give you something here that's interesting. The quarterback position. A quarterback has won the NFL NBA MVP each of the last 12 years. If we go back over the last seven, there are 50 voters for the MVP award. My friend Peter King pointed this out to me this morning. There are 50 voters for the MVP award. In the last seven years, there have been 350 first place votes for the MVP. Of those 350 votes, 349 over seven years have been for quarterbacks. The only single vote, single vote in the last seven years not for a quarterback was for Cooper cup in 2021. Other than that, a quarterback has gotten every first place vote for the MVP award. So that tells you that. Drake May, Matthew Stafford, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Sam Darnold. They're in the lead, however, saying that I am not a voter. I'm glad I'm not a voter, but I guess I'm not. You know, I've never been asked to be a voter. I have not been a voter since I was younger. Those privileges were revoked. My hall of Fame privileges were revoked when I was an NFL network. They never gave him back to me. I guess I can make fun of it now. Nobody ever gave me back. And there are a lot more. There are a lot of people out there, Pat, that know the game way better than me. So they don't need my vote. And they don't. They don't. And they don't need me to vote on the hall of Fame either. There's a lot of people, a lot more than me.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, jeez. The fire outside. Jesus. Hey. Everything's all right. We're okay. Thanks for coming, boys. Let him know Day ball was just getting fired. Dude. So the fire alarms went off here in Indianapolis, but I did not know you got your voting privileges revoked. I'm happy you keep that chip on your shoulder every single day when you wake up and try to change the course of the NFL with your breaking news. 349 of the 350 votes over the last seven years have gone to a quarterback. Cooper cup, obviously, everybody says he won the Triple crown that year it was actually the quad because he got the yards after catch, too.
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Connor
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
So it was like catches, touchdowns, yards, and then also yards after catch he had. So it was like all four. He was across the board. He got one MVP vote. Okay, he got one. Jonathan Taylor's doing special things. Let's go to somebody who actually has an MVP vote. Apart Tone, running back, potentially in the running. Especially with how good this Colts team is, the position we're in, best team in the afc and he is clearly the best player on the team. Everybody on the team agrees that.
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Dan
Yeah, good news. Just got the email this week. I am back this year. I was chef, you could send me your list. Maybe I'll take it into consideration.
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Pat McAfee
Or not.
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Dan
But yes, yes. Jonathan Taylor and a running back should always be considered when you're having a historic season like this is. It doesn't have to be just a quarterback award. It's not named a quarterback award. So, yes, if Jonathan Taylor is the most valuable player, he should win the MVP award.
- [41:41]
Pat McAfee
Drake May odds on favorite to win the mvp. No. Patriots fan. Go ahead. I'm sorry.
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Adam Schefter
Well, that's what I was saying before I got in a little bit of a riff. I don't know how you don't give the award today, today, November 10th, to Jonathan Taylor. The guys had four hat trick games, four games. Games where he scored three touchdowns each. He right now is on pace to do things that very few running backs in the history of football ever have done. We're talking about a historic season now, again, there are a lot of games left, but look at the production. Look how it compares to an Adrian Peterson, one MVP fully scored. He's only scored 10 more touchdowns than him at this point, right?
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Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah.
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Adam Schefter
Ten more. Right.
- [42:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So, yeah, that's what it's.
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Adam Schefter
Again, Pat, if I did have a vote right now, I would vote for Trump, but I don't have a vote, so I can't.
- [42:36]
Pat McAfee
Okay, yeah, we understand. You got to revoke.
- [42:37]
Tyler
Once again, not getting it back.
- [42:39]
Pat McAfee
Tone said he will listen to any ideas, but obviously he has more sway than you. He still has to vote for good reason. But let's go to the odds on favor right now because of everything you just chatted about. I think everybody just assumes, including sports books. Inevitably, at the end of the day, push comes to shove. Whenever it's time to vote, they'll say the person that's touching the ball every single play is the most valuable position. That is normally the argument. It's not the most best Player, it's the most valuable player. Quarterback's always going to be the most valuable. That's why they're getting paid $60 million a year because they touch the ball every single play. Jonathan Taylor, I think Danny Dimes would be okay with him touching the ball every single play and I think our offense would. But we got weapons everywhere else as well, which is why the Colts are so good. Let's talk about Drake May though. Odds on favorite con man. Nobody expect that as a Patriots fan coming in the season. Right. How could you expect the Patriots second year quarterback who wasn't the first quarterback drafted? He's on a brand new head coach to be the MVP. Odds on favorite through 10 weeks. Congrats to you guys and congrats to Drake May, who seemingly has it all.
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Connor
Yeah, incredible. First 10 games just to kind of piggyback off that Jonathan Taylor thing for Drake May. He's the first quarterback in the history of the NFL to have 2500 pass yards, 70 plus completion percentage, 250 rushing yards and five or fewer interceptions. Shout out Greg Harvey. When we're talking about value and just, you know, valuable as being the word here, you can go to all those other players and then look at the cap space spent across the other offenses. I mean, it's not even close. Drake May would be most valuable. I think Matt Stafford's most deserving.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. And the number one story of the weekend is the Colts are going to win Super Bowl.
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Tyler
Hell yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Colts going to win Super Bowl. Congrats to us. A huge win. We got about a heart out here in one minute. This came quickly. 42 minute first 15 here. Shefty Eagles, packers tonight. Literally one minute. We have. What should we be thinking about?
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Adam Schefter
Step out of the way, Pat. I got you. I think we're going to get Nolan Smith back tonight for the Philadelphia Eagles. I think he'll be activated by 4 o'. Clock. Jair Alexander did not make the trip for the Philadelphia Eagles. Not going to play against his former team. And this is all about the Tush push tonight. The packers were the team that proposed banning it. We heard Micah Parsons last year with the Cowboys talk about the fact that it was a terrible play. Now the Eagles are gonna get a chance to take their Tushbush and shove it up to Packers Tushbush tonight in Green Bay football.
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Pat McAfee
You're the man. Way to Tush push your way right through that. You're the best. Adam Chef, good breaking news on the show. We appreciate the hell.