Yeah. You see, we're getting better time of possession here. Yeah. First half of the season here. We're kind of bad. We're still in it. You know, we're still playing meaningful football games in November. We're not sellers at the trade deadline by any means, but we certainly weren't just dominating, you know, because we kept saying, first, it's not about the time, it's about the plays. But then we put a 15 minute clock up there and everybody's like, hey, it's 42 minutes. So what's the clock for? And we said, you know what, you're right. Instead of counting down, we need to give no barriers to ourselves. Yeah. We need to explore everything in this first 15. Why would we be setting up a three and out? Why would we be setting up a slowdown of any good conversation, a stoppage of any play that we need? So we're starting at zero. We're counting up. Let's see how long today goes. Let's get this thing started with the top five Headlines coming out of the NFL slate number five, not all ass teams are ass all the time. Now, what are you saying by that? Well, what I'm saying is some of these teams we've all just deemed ass, we say, oh, that squad there, ass. That team right there, not worth a damn. That team can't beat any team, let alone an NFL team or a good NFL team. And what we need to remember, D. BU And I think this does get forgotten about whenever it comes to maybe the larger scale of football fans and NFL fans. These are all professional athletes who are paid to try to play football good and to strategize against other teams just like the good squads. So whenever we were 2 and 14, whenever we lost for 2 and yeah, 2 and 14, whenever we got Andrew Luck, there was like nine games, there were one score games that if the ball just so happened to and then pop up into some guy that played one NFL game in his life, this particular game, and he just goes into the end zone, we win that game. So it's like, I think people just start to decide if a team is good and can win or if a team is bad and can't win any game. And then you kind of just toss away any of the wins that happen throughout the season with the bad teams. And then if they end up beating a team, oh my God, full panic. It happened down there in Miami with the Buffalo Beatles. Now, Josh Allen has struggled in Miami in the past. We all do recall a couple bad games for Josh down in Miami that would continue. And his Miami Dolphins team, we all call ass, this team's ass. Instead, they still got Waddle. And allegedly there were some teams, including the Buffalo Bills, that were looking for Waddle. Even a in 2027 was offered up from a couple teams for Waddle because of how incredible he is at football. But we all think he's really good. He needs to get the hell out of there because they're a bad team. And here they are on a Sunday and they're beating the Buffalo Bills. And not just beating them, pounding them all three phases. There was a moment in the fourth quarter, it was 16 nothing in fourth quarter. There was a moment there where Josh Allen scores a touchdown. And it's like, hold the phone, wait a minute. Has Josh Allen finally got over his Miami flu? Is Josh Allen potentially about to turn this entire thing around? Are the Buffalo Bills about to do to the Miami Dolphins what we all expect to do? Just steal their joy and their hope in the fourth quarter? And the Miami Dolphins answered dbut I mean, it was an ass kicking. Even when the bill started, the Dolphins would answer. Everybody says their ass. Maybe they're not ass all the time.
Tyler (4:26)
And you mentioned it and they hear it, they hear it every day about how ass they are. Not only players, but the coaches. Who's getting fired next, who's getting traded? Obviously the trade deadline is over now, but the way these boys showed up, starting with hn, absolute game breaker ran through them and it's the only place that the Dolphins beat the Bills. You mentioned that earlier as well. And this was kind of a. A ugly weather game. It didn't show through on the camera much, but this was kind of some rain on and off, some sloppy. I love this. I know a lot of people have a lot of thoughts about this or they're acting like they won the super bowl. But hey, winning. Winning is an amazing feeling. You mentioned every week in the NFL is talented coaches. It's talented players. You know, we got so break dances and. And my initial reaction was like, oh, this is too much. This is this. But then I'm like, okay, I'm an old guy. I haven't been in the locker room. These are. You're coaching 20 to 30 year olds and you're excited about the win and you want to be excited about the win. So I love this, what I saw, not only on the field from the Dolphins, but off the field because Mike McDowell, he's been getting on the shins all year long. So for him to have his boys come out and compete against the team that everybody picked, I'm sure a bunch of survivor picks.
Pat McAfee (5:39)
This was Miami's first win versus Bill since 2022. Han went off 174, six reception, 52 yards and two touchdowns. Dolphins defense forced two fumbles, one interception and up with three sacks. That's a hell of a day. After trading away Jalen Phillips and also sending away all your best talent. Hembo sent over a stat about this Bills rush defense. Week one. Derrick Henry one for 169. Bijon one for 170. And then a chain goes for 174. If you want to win. Hey, if you want to win in the playoffs, they're gonna have to figure that out. They are gonna have to figure that out. Now, obviously these types of games are certainly possible for teams and no fans want them to see them. But only one team in the history of the NFL has gone undefeated. Okay. It's a 1972 dolphins. Every once in a while, professional athletes are gonna show up and put it together. And when that happens, they can beat anybody. That is kind of what the NFL has kind of been built upon. Parody, parody, parody. Any given Sunday on yesterday. On yesterday's particular Sunday. Good for you. One half of the hammer. Cowboys. Bubble gumpy. How's it feel to be have a victory Monday here with the boys? Are you riding in the laundry rack?
Pat McAfee (7:05)
So a GM and a president is hated. This bad in the building. Oh, my God. Thank God he's gone. That's what it's like down there. Feels like there was a new energy. And McDaniel, I mean, the way he's feeling, the way they're responding to him, it feels like there's like a hey, we're behind you type vibe. Good for the Dolphins. Now this could all change. Yeah, true. This could all just be, you know, take it in, boys.
Connor (7:46)
I mean, like make a Fitzpatrick bringing it. I don't know if that was his first game as a Miami Dolphin, but I know he's been out for a little bit, him being back. And then, I mean, Ty dropped a bar about Jalen Phillips being out of the building. Like you would assume, you know, trading your best player. Jalen Phillips on defense, at least there might be a little bit of a, you know, fall off, but like not at all. If anything though, you know, you just said it. That was the best their defenses looked.
Pat McAfee (8:07)
Yeah. Congrats to the Dolphins. Get a big win. And to the Bills. Okay. These types of losses, open your eyes to what's possible in the bigger games down the road. They're going to have to get that fixed. And then you go to the NFC South. Who's ass down there? Saints. Well, who's not ass this year? Maybe Panthers Go football team winning record Saints. Tyler Schuck, 75 year old rookie out of Louisville. Dog absolute beast. They get no turnovers or something like that. I forget he had a bunch of rookie records for how he performed. Kelly Moe might have a guy. And when they drafted him, I think it was like third round or something like that. Whenever they drafted him, they forgot. They acted like this was a starter. And everybody was like, well, if this is your starter, why wouldn't you draft him early? It's like, well, we knew what his value was. We knew how people viewed him. They liked him very, very early. He gets a win over the Carolina Panthers and a team that's 1 in 8 somehow beats a team that's 5 and 4 and 1 in 18. We all said was ass and we're dead. They get a huge win over there. You know, kind of new favorites around town. You know, we're not doing the pumps anymore. No, we're not doing any pumps anymore. Hey, all right, we're out of here. Got him. Got a message from Keegan. You know, Canales is talk of the town. Rico Dowdle might be the best player in football. All of a sudden, Carolina is up and to the right in a huge way. And the New Orleans Saints just like their location on the map. Nobody was talking about them way down there. No, nobody. Hey, who are the ass teams? Well, the jets and Saints, they're real bad. They're the ones that we're talking about, like with a college football team now, I don't think any of this year's college football teams, well, maybe this Ohio State team, honestly, we have no idea. I mean, there's a chance they're the greatest of all time if they go through College Football Playoff the same exact way that they've been going through this season. And there is a chance people are going to do that. Ohio State could be NFL team.
Pat McAfee (12:58)
That's number five. Ten minutes. It's got number four headline coming out of the weekend. NFC favorites fornicate four o' clock slate. Yeah, we all saw it. Let's go to our nation's capital. Detroit Lions pounded. Washington pounded. I mean just pounded the Washington commanders. At one point during this game in the third quarter, the President of the United States was in the booth and the Washington commander scored. And his first reaction was that's good for ratings, right? That's good. This is actually kind of a game now as opposed to what it was. The Detroit Lions with Dan Campbell calling plays were exactly what the Detroit Lions last year with Ben Johnson were calling plays. He had glasses on. I guess it wasn't easy to tell from watching the game that he was certainly calling plays while he was actually talking and Jared Goff was nodding his head like this and then jolly Mo up in the booth wasn't saying really anything but I guess couldn't. We didn't know for sure if he was calling plays. Turns out he was in. Their entire offense is good and their defense incredible. Kelvin shepherd, defense coordinator, first year teammate of ours. Obviously now running the show for Detroit on defensive side. Might be in a runner for that LSU job. I don't know if he wants it. Obviously he just got defense coordinator job in the NFL. That is a huge deal. One step away from an NFL head coaching job. I don't know if he. I've not directly asked him but lsu Kelvin Shepard could be possible. So the Lions could be dealing with another turnover of a coordinator, which was the entire question going in. New offense coordinator. He's don't. Dan Campbell's now calling place. So basically three offense coordinators in about two years. Right. If you go Ben Johnson, new Johnny Moe and Dan Campbell, defense coordinator. Obviously two in two years and they're still dominating and they're still at the top of the NFC and they're still ruining a 4 o' clock slate. What did you learn yesterday from the Detroit Lions?
Tyler (14:42)
Oh, you know what? Honest, I'm be honest with you. I didn't learn much. I knew they were a dominant team. I felt like the Detroit Lions are legit contender to win it all this year. Jared Goff just Kind of ho hum. Another great game by him. Over 300 yards. You got Jameer Gibbs going. He had day after having a bad outing last week against the Vikings. And then jmo. JMO made some noise, you know a couple weeks ago was some noise around him. Should I say about him not getting the ball, not been using the offense and Dan Campbell made it a point to get the ball probably in his first 15 to get the ball to number one and he. He made good with it. So he got targets, he made his big plays. But yeah, we know they are offensively and defensively the commanders just so, so bad. So it's. I didn't honestly, I didn't learn a team that's ass. This was the outco supposed to happen in my opinion.
Pat McAfee (15:30)
But not as all the time. Which is why exactly would do his thing. If they put it together, yes good team. But if not, they look like they look. And especially against the Detroit Lions. You're ready Foxy. There's some Hembo stats here about the Lions offense through nine games. And they make a change at the offense coordinator position in 2024. Ben Johnson obviously ends up getting hired as a head coach as the bell of the ball because he's an offensive genius. 2.7 points per drive, 46% scoring drive, 33 touchdowns, 10 turnovers, 20, 25, 2.8 points per drive, which is absurd by the way. A field goal every get the ball at least. Basically 47% drive score and 34 touchdowns, six turnovers. You guys are better than ever. And Dan Campbell's put himself in a driver's seat. What? What? Yeah, absolutely. I tell you what, everyone is fired up about this. They love that MCDC's calling plays. Jared Goff over 300 yards, three touchdowns. Jameer Gibbs 173 total yards, three touchdowns. JMO over 100 yards, a touchdown. LaPorta had five catches. St. Brown had five catches. Everyone was getting the rock. Everyone was loving what this offense was doing. And we're rolling now and we're not looking back anymore. Love you. Johnny Mone. He had a lot to do with this play calling. But this is MCDC's offense now. Okay? Yeah, MCDC says we got a lot of guys, man. We got a lot of guys, a lot of miles to feed. Everybody's coming in my office on Monday saying, Baltimore, you know what? I will scored on every single possession in the game. No turnovers. It was literally perfect. Yeah, I mean the stats saying you're scoring almost three points a drive is insane because there's Games where you have like three, four drives, you score obviously. So making up for those, it doesn't happen. Detroit Lions seemingly all the way back to who we thought they were offensively. Ty, you got to be scared to death this Detroit Lions team because if mcdc can just take over either coordinator position, it doesn't matter if they sub out. It doesn't matter if Kelvin Shepard ends up being the head coach at LSU if he wants that or any NFL job that potentially opens up. Because what he's been able to do with this defense so quickly because mcdc wants have offensive side here, bang, defensive side here. If he has to, that's what he's willing to do. That's got to be scary in the NFC North.
Mike (17:37)
I wouldn't say I'm scared to death because the packers have one in the hand already on the Lions. But again, that was Johnny Mo calling the plays, not mcdc. But I think yesterday just reaffirmed like there's been a lot of talk about the Bears because they've won several in a row. You know, the Vikings had, I mean, discount yesterday. Vikings with JJ and you know, BA said, hey, we might get four teams from the NSC north end. The packers are, you know what they are. But it's very evident that like when the Lions play their A to like B plus game, they are the best team in that division. They're still the team that you need to slay. So it'll be very interesting. But I just look at, I mean, you look at the like Bears are great right now. Obviously lions hung 50 on them and beat the out of them. The packers game, it is what it is. Week one. The Lions are a much different team when they meet again on Thanksgiving. And then the Vikings are whatever. But if the Lions can play like this, this it. You'd be hard pressed to find a team that's better than them in the NFL.
Pat McAfee (20:46)
Happy birthday, Marines. Happy birthday, Marines. It wasn't just the Detroit Lions that made the 4 o' clock completely fornicated. Oh, no, no. There's two other options. And the NFC west said, we'll go ahead and take care of those for you. The Los Angeles Rams, dominant now. It did become a little bit of a Game. This one was one score game for a little bit and then Matthew Stafford goes ahead and hits the gas pedal at the end of this thing to put it away. This Los Angeles Rams team is special offensively. They're special. Obviously Puka Nakua is Puka Nakua. He might be the best wide receiver in football on any given day, whenever he's playing football, insanely tough, very quick vibes. Immaculate. Always wants to show up for his team. We love OOS they add Devonte Adams. So now coverages have to do what they have to do down the red zone. They're damn near unstoppable because you can't double Devontae because you got Puka on the other side. So Devontae's one on one either with your second or third corner and on the goal line. That's unstoppable. I mean it's absolutely. And Matthew Stafford does just that every time. This is their goal line play. It's every single week. Hey, Devonta, whatever the hell you want to do to the guy. If you want to go inside, you do it. You want to go outside, you do it. I'm going to hit you with the ball. They do it anytime time they're inside the three, it's their tush push. They got the hall of Fame right arm of Matthew Stafford and the hall of Fame release of Devonte Adams. They put that together and it's a touchdown creating machine. It's outrageous what they've been able to build, especially because whenever they started building this team, they went all in and lost all their picks. They lost all of their picks. They weren't looking for the future at all is how everybody was judging them. And now here we are in that particular future. They're young on defense, very good offense. They have weapons. And Matthew Stafford Looks like he's 14, 15, 16 years old again, spinning it all over the yard. Was it because of that tube he wanted to in training camp? This guy's outrageous. He's better than he's ever been.
Tyler (22:35)
Yeah, we're worried about him. Anytime you got an old player or quarterback coming into the season with a back injury, you're very, very worried. But he's playing probably the best football of his career. This is now three straight games where he's thrown four passing TDs and zero interceptions, which is insane in the National Football League. You talked about the players on the field. Obviously everyone has the talent. Talent, we talked about it. But then the coaching, coaching matters. And these are two coaches that are very familiar with each other. But Sean McVeigh has these boys rolling. Tom Brady, I think this was a great call. The freaking. No, look, I mean, he's the OG of that. He's been doing that for a long, long time. He makes it look so easy. This, I mean, go out and try this in your backyard with throwing a 7 and 8 year olds. This is tough to do, let alone on the NFL field. But yeah, Sean McVeigh has done a tremendous job. And Tom Brady made a great point about something they're doing with their offense. They're using a lot of, of 13 personnel and then getting matchups with these wide receivers against linebackers and safeties because they're facing base coverages as opposed to like nickel coverages.
Pat McAfee (24:13)
Donald Brown was a beast. I love that man. I hope he's good. We would all like to say what's up to him, but yeah, Matthew Stafford's only getting better somehow. It makes no sense. And his no look passes are getting more, more very like regular now. Like it's just average stuff. I think a lot more people are doing it. But he has, to everybody's point, been doing this for his entire career. Which is why ba, who's called the quarterback whisperer, said that Matthew Stafford was the only quarterback he'd go out and watch warm up. Because the shit he can do with it. Well, he's got weapons, he's got McVeigh calling the plays. And he can still do it. He's special right now. MVP at this age would be wild for Matthew Stafford.
Pat McAfee (27:34)
Hey, a couple of these going to be ass. We got to find a good one. We need that yesterday. Let's go to the number three headline. The sports books and Steelers fans knew, okay, sportsbooks had the Baltimore Ravens at like 2 and 4, 2 and 5 as the favorites to win the AFC north. When the Pittsburgh Steelers were 4 and 1 or whatever the hell it was. 5, 4 and 2, 5 and 2. Whatever the hell they were catching, they were way down early. Steelers spent all the money on the roster and were winning and sportsbooks did not budge. They're like, Baltimore Ravens are going to win the AFC North. This is how this is going to go for weeks and weeks. And I actually just thought it was so preposterous that I'm like, well this sounds like it has to be right. So I've literally only picked the Ravens just because it's like the time travelers who do the sports books things are saying this is going to happen. And lo and behold it seems like it is happening. Lamar Jackson and the Ravens getting very, very good. Okay, very a couple turnovers from J.J. mcCarthy. Obviously the defense is only going to get better from where they started this entire thing. And Lamar Jackson, after he goes ahead and takes the ping pong tables and the cornhole board and everything out of the locker room, comes back from his hamstring injury completely locked in. Connor. Connor is giving a great face right now because Obviously Drake may JJ McCarthy conversations are going to happen. JJ will miss. He will miss by a lot. He will miss by a lot. He's got to get better with his actions accuracy, which I think is possible. If you go back to like Josh Allen, there's a chance he's able to do that. Has competitive spirit, all that. He misses a lot of throws by a lot, but he also makes throws out of nowhere that shouldn't be made. On that note, Baltimore Ravens.
Pat McAfee (29:22)
Maybe nine isn't in the NFL. Maybe nine retired with a national championship. A lot of will 11 Michigan. There's. But in the leadership sense, he has a lot of Tom Brady. That's right. Okay. So there's a lot of things you can look at that I'll look on the other side. Baltimore Ravens are real. And the Baltimore Ravens, the sportsbooks knew they were going to be good. Lamar Jackson feels good. A lot of losses early. They're going to be chasing all season. That's good motivation for that team. And then the Pittsburgh Steelers get a huge win over the Indianapolis Colts. Makes me as a Colts fan. Don't worry, you'll see number one of the headlines here. You'll see exactly where I'm at. Makes me as a Colts fan, question some things. But we had six turnovers. Like that's not going to be a normal day. But the Pittsburgh Steelers forced those things. You know, the Pittsburgh Steelers made great plays. It's like maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers are a team that we need to think about going forward. That's how I felt after the Colts game last night. Halftime. I said, fuck this, I'm going to bed. You weren't still, I'm going to bed. I'm not staying up for this shit. I mean, it was not good last night, but we think the Chargers are a good football team as well. But it feels like Steelers fans have been waiting for this particular game, especially on prime time.
Pat McAfee (36:16)
More visible picture at the MVP picture. It feels like there is now a three horse race for the MVP in Drake May, Matthew Stafford and Jonathan Taylor. First we'll go with Drake May. Unbelievable for his second year, second head coach, second offensive coordinator. 3. If you go back three years for him, back to college, he is leading this Patriots year. I mean it is fucking fun to watch. Had him early, you know, it feels like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers Todd Bowles defense had him early because I was reading Connor's tweets about it. It's like, whoa, tough day with Todd Bowles right now. Tough day. Then he makes this throw with a guy about to hit him. Has to be a touch pass with like a quarter throw and it's like this dude is special. Special. And it's not just us saying that. Schefter sportsbooks have him as the odds on favorite to win the mvp. That is insane to think about at this stage. Matthew Stafford, we just talked about being immaculate. And then Jonathan Taylor, this dude's special. 250 yards or whatever it was in Germany yesterday. He's been doing it all season. There's a lot of stats and factoids about what he's been doing versus Adrian Peterson and Adrian Peterson's MVP season up to this point, obviously what the teams were. 8 and 2, 6 and 4. He has 17 touchdowns. I had to, I, I thought we had had a. Seven touchdowns, 1399 yards from scrimmage, 1283 yards from scrimmage. So what Jonathan Taylor is doing is obviously historic and obviously better than an MVP season was for a running back in the past. Adrian Peterson we all have massive respect for as a football player. He was untackleable and Jonathan Taylor's the same damn thing. And when Jonathan Taylor gets any space, he's gone. He is winning games for the Indianapolis Colts and you got everybody on that. You know, Zaire at the end of that 44 was saying you're the best player in the world. Literally on camera. I got a text from Daniel Jones, said we got the best player on earth than Jonathan Taylor. He said life is good with him. Nobody expected this from the Colts. Adam Schefter and I don't know if anybody expected this from Jonathan Taylor either. If you're a voter, which I don't know if you are or not, are you going to give it to a running back? Shefte or is this just a quarterback award? You think through and through.
Adam Schefter (38:23)
Well, here's number six. You, Pat, if we go back the last 12 years. 12, okay. The quarterback has won the Most Valuable Player, by the way, Mike Kafka, officially the interim head coach for the New York Giants. Mike Kafka, the interim head coach for the New York Giants. He takes over for Brian Dabel, who was let go here this afternoon. I want to give you something here that's interesting. The quarterback position. A quarterback has won the NFL NBA MVP each of the last 12 years. If we go back over the last seven, there are 50 voters for the MVP award. My friend Peter King pointed this out to me this morning. There are 50 voters for the MVP award. In the last seven years, there have been 350 first place votes for the MVP. Of those 350 votes, 349 over seven years have been for quarterbacks. The only single vote, single vote in the last seven years not for a quarterback was for Cooper cup in 2021. Other than that, a quarterback has gotten every first place vote for the MVP award. So that tells you that. Drake May, Matthew Stafford, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen, Sam Darnold. They're in the lead, however, saying that I am not a voter. I'm glad I'm not a voter, but I guess I'm not. You know, I've never been asked to be a voter. I have not been a voter since I was younger. Those privileges were revoked. My hall of Fame privileges were revoked when I was an NFL network. They never gave him back to me. I guess I can make fun of it now. Nobody ever gave me back. And there are a lot more. There are a lot of people out there, Pat, that know the game way better than me. So they don't need my vote. And they don't. They don't. And they don't need me to vote on the hall of Fame either. There's a lot of people, a lot more than me.
Pat McAfee (40:51)
So it was like catches, touchdowns, yards, and then also yards after catch he had. So it was like all four. He was across the board. He got one MVP vote. Okay, he got one. Jonathan Taylor's doing special things. Let's go to somebody who actually has an MVP vote. Apart Tone, running back, potentially in the running. Especially with how good this Colts team is, the position we're in, best team in the afc and he is clearly the best player on the team. Everybody on the team agrees that.
Adam Schefter (41:46)
Well, that's what I was saying before I got in a little bit of a riff. I don't know how you don't give the award today, today, November 10th, to Jonathan Taylor. The guys had four hat trick games, four games. Games where he scored three touchdowns each. He right now is on pace to do things that very few running backs in the history of football ever have done. We're talking about a historic season now, again, there are a lot of games left, but look at the production. Look how it compares to an Adrian Peterson, one MVP fully scored. He's only scored 10 more touchdowns than him at this point, right?
Pat McAfee (42:38)
Tone said he will listen to any ideas, but obviously he has more sway than you. He still has to vote for good reason. But let's go to the odds on favor right now because of everything you just chatted about. I think everybody just assumes, including sports books. Inevitably, at the end of the day, push comes to shove. Whenever it's time to vote, they'll say the person that's touching the ball every single play is the most valuable position. That is normally the argument. It's not the most best Player, it's the most valuable player. Quarterback's always going to be the most valuable. That's why they're getting paid $60 million a year because they touch the ball every single play. Jonathan Taylor, I think Danny Dimes would be okay with him touching the ball every single play and I think our offense would. But we got weapons everywhere else as well, which is why the Colts are so good. Let's talk about Drake May though. Odds on favorite con man. Nobody expect that as a Patriots fan coming in the season. Right. How could you expect the Patriots second year quarterback who wasn't the first quarterback drafted? He's on a brand new head coach to be the MVP. Odds on favorite through 10 weeks. Congrats to you guys and congrats to Drake May, who seemingly has it all.
