PMS 2.0 1451 - Thursday Night Football Preview, Heather Dinich, Mike McCarthy, & AJ Hawk

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 #1451

Date: November 13, 2025
Hosts: Pat McAfee, AJ Hawk, The Toxic Table (Ty Schmidt & Boston Connor), Tone Digs
Key Guests: Heather Dinich (ESPN CFB Insider), Mike McCarthy (Super Bowl Champion Coach)

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Overview

This episode of "The Pat McAfee Show" is a jam-packed Thursday sports carnival, serving up:

• An in-depth preview of Thursday Night Football: Patriots vs. Jets
• NFL storylines focused on coaching and MVP races
• Up-to-the-minute College Football Playoff committee drama with Heather Dinich
• Hilarious behind-the-scenes banter, sports culture chat, and recurring inside jokes
• The triumphant return of Rob Gronkowski to New England and a look at Gronk’s place in football history
• Insightful guest appearances, especially Coach Mike McCarthy, who brings both analysis and Yinzer nostalgia

The energy is unfiltered, fast-paced, and loaded with football nerddom, nostalgia, and plenty of signature McAfee irreverence.

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Episode Structure & Key Segments

I. NFL Week 11 and Thursday Night Football Deep Dive (00:00 – 13:10)

Patriots vs. Jets: Buzz in Foxborough

• Weather & Odds: 39°, 3% chance of rain. Patriots 12.5-point favorites.
• Patriots Outlook:
  • Led by second-year sensation Drake May (odds-on MVP favorite).
  • Mike Vrabel’s impact as head coach: “They are young, hungry, electrifying, and might win the Super Bowl.” (Pat, 00:50)
  • Stefon Diggs is described as “bought in, all in… He’s jumping up, exposing himself at the end of the game, knowing he’s gonna get rocked for the team.” (Pat, 02:50)
• Jets Outlook:
  • Aaron Glenn as head coach. “They have a good run game, defense is showing some life… but their pass offense is the worst ever, might be all time.” (Pat, 02:08)
  • Defensive and offensive rankings: Run game 4th, total offense 28th, pass defense 8th.

Quote:
“Tonight is maybe a primetime celebration that we’re back. If we win tonight, we move into the 1 seed... Might get a little too big for my boat.” — Boston Connor (04:56)

Patriots’ Defensive Dominance

• “Our run defense, best part of the team, number one in the league, suffocating.” (Connor, 06:27)
• “Vrabel defense just feels hard-nosed, tough. Not talked about enough.” (Pat, 06:57)
• Mike Vrabel’s Coach-of-the-Year odds discussed alongside Shane Steichen and Mike McDonald.

Quote: “It is surreal that we get to talk about the Patriots like this... Vrabel leading the way. Coach Steichen just as deserving, Coach McDonald just as deserving.” — Connor (08:18)

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II. NFL Round-Up: Coaching Carousel, Giants, and Gronk (13:10 – 18:00)

• Mike McCarthy rumored as Giants’ next head coach; his appeal discussed.
• Giants’ entertainment factor highlighted, Jameis Winston’s energetic first press conference.
• Social media antics: Malik Nabers’ post gets a laugh.
• Nostalgic detour on Disney movies, sad animated films, and Pittsburgh football culture.

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III. College Football Playoff Committee Shake-Up & Heather Dinich Interview (15:54 – 23:32)

Context:

• Baylor AD & CFP Chair Mack Rhoades steps down due to alleged sideline altercations.
• Outkick report described: Rhoades grabs tight end Mike Trigg over yellow sleeves; grabs coach later.

Heather Dinich Breaks It Down:

• Process: Replacement must be a Big 12 AD, likely Mark Harlan (Utah) or Gene Taylor (K-State).
• Committee Structure: 13-member (now 11), composed of sitting ADs and retired media.
• Chair responsibilities could shift depending on commissioners’ decision.

Quote:
“If you’ve gotta fill an open seat midseason, do you stick with someone already in the room or bring in a new voice? They could do it either way.” — Heather Dinich (22:16)

• Pittsburgh’s football culture, Pitt-Notre Dame game hype, and College GameDay coming to town.

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IV. Around College Football & Hoops: Coaching, Game Day, and Star Performers (24:00 – 45:44)

• Pitt’s head coach Narduzzi shrugs off Notre Dame in quirky press conference: “Could lose 110 to 10, doesn’t matter—ACC is all that counts.”
• Drinking culture story: Alcohol tax in Pittsburgh raises laugh.
• Field conditions, fan atmosphere, and tailgate lore.
• Pitt’s stadium challenges, attendance imbalance (pro-ND), and classic pro-ball debates.

Notable Women’s College Hoops Moments

• Audi Crooks (Iowa State): 43 points in 21 minutes.
• Hannah Hidalgo (Notre Dame): 44 points, 16 steals (breaks all-time NCAA record for single-game steals, men’s or women’s).
• Connecticut, Tennessee, Notre Dame’s historic legends discussed.

Quote:
“Hannah Houdini-go... she’s a magic woman. I think it’s incredible she can be the most athletic player on both sides.” — Pat (43:14)

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V. NFL Storylines & Player Tributes (46:54 – 53:17)

• Cooper Kupp returns to SoFi to face the Rams as a Seahawk. Discusses facing old teammates, gratitude, and “I didn't die. I’m here.” about potential tribute (48:25).
• Kupp’s Super Bowl MVP/Triple Crown season revisited.

Quote:
“2,425 yards. Second place Larry Fitzgerald, 1,977. That’s crazy.” — Pat (50:30)

NFC Playoff Picture

• Seahawks, Rams, Eagles, Lions debated as possible NFC title favorites.

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VI. Breaking CFB News: Playoff Committee Leadership Moves (54:24 – 56:00)

• Utah’s Mark Harlan nominated to CFP; Arkansas’s Hunter Yurachek as chair—Heather Dinich reports live updates.
• AJ Hawk and crew riff on human vs. computer playoff selection and calls for “just get it right.”

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VII. NFL Guest: Mike McCarthy on Patriots, Gronk, and Coaching Philosophy (72:14 – 87:19)

Classic Pittsburgh Banter (72:14 – 74:49)

• McCarthy jokes about Primanti’s, Yinzer roots, and “highlighting the fatter version” of Pat in a mock-up.

Rob Gronkowski Retrospective:

• McCarthy: “In my time, by far the most dominant and pure Y tight end… the connection with Tom [Brady] as good as ever played the game.” (75:20)
• Blocking ability, toughness, and football IQ.

Patriots/Jets Preview & Vrabel Impact:

• “He’s done it in Tennessee and New England. His consistency, play style, building identity—personnel reflects coaching.” (80:32)
• Drake May’s upside “still a lot of growth to come; continuity with Josh McDaniels is huge.” (77:28)

Jets Analysis:

• “They’re a team learning to win. Still a ways to go, but building a good line and weapons.” (82:08)

Picks and Gambling Lines:

• After arm-twisting by Connor, McCarthy picks Patriots -12.5: “That’s a lot of points for a division game but I’m gonna be a good teammate.” (83:36)
• Divisional game cautions; NFL “everybody is good.”

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VIII. Gronk Appreciation & Legacy Talk (63:12 – 71:53)

• Emotional discussion of Gronk’s legacy, charitable impact, “always the same guy.”
• Consensus: Gronk is "the greatest tight end of all time"—Shaq-like dominance.
• Fun stories: Gronk falling asleep during Patriots pre-draft interviews; “just throw me the f***ing ball, I’ll make shit happen.” (67:28)

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IX. Football Chatter, Picks, and Closing Banter (87:53 – End)

• Picking Thursday Night Football: All hosts side with Patriots -12.5, acknowledging it “feels almost too perfect/obvious” (143:18).
• Running jokes about superstitions, momentum, “football gods.”
• Sideline stories: Jonathan Taylor’s record performance in Berlin, Disney movie tangents, UBall office competitions, hacky sack games.
• Pirates Cy Young winner Paul Skenes gets a shoutout; speculation on MLB contracts and Pittsburgh hopes.

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Patriots’ Transformation:
  “It's a prime time celebration that we're back... If we win tonight, we move into the one seed. Now that might only last till Sunday...” — Boston Connor (04:56)

• On Gronk’s Greatness:
  “Rob Gronkowski is the greatest tight end in the history of football. No question. You really can’t argue it when you look at football.” — Boston Connor (65:30)

• On the CFP Committee Drama:
  “They’ve got to fill that seat real quick. Will it be Harlan? Gene Taylor? Whoever it is, that’s a lot of pressure—these are the people deciding who gets to play for it all.” — Heather Dinich (22:16)

• On Hannah Hidalgo’s Record:
  “She damn near had a triple-double with steals… Hannah Houdini-go, she’s a magic woman.” — Pat (43:14)

• On Mike Vrabel:
  “He’s done that in both places... The identity, how the team's built, the coaching staff and personnel on the same page. He’s playing to the climate of the northeast. Drake May, he is built for New England football.” — Coach Mike McCarthy (81:29)

• On Betting Lines:
  “70% of the YouTube chat poll. Mike McCarthy, Boston Connor saying 42-nothing maybe... That’s a lot of points for a division game. But the Patriots, they're just that good right now.” — Pat (112:36)

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Notable Timestamps

• TNF Patriots-Jets Preview: 00:00 – 13:10
• CFB Playoff Committee Drama w/ Heather Dinich: 15:54 – 23:32
• McCarthy Yinzer Banter / NFL Coaching Carousel: 72:14 – 74:49
• Gronk Retrospective: 63:12 – 71:53
• Women’s CBB Breakouts (Crooks & Hidalgo): 40:24 – 44:45
• Cooper Kupp LA Return: 46:54 – 51:01
• Thursday Night Football Picks (Patriots -12.5): 87:53 – 143:42

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Tone & Takeaways

• Language & Vibe:
  Loose, candid, blending insights with comedy and real fan talk; the show's signature blend of “locker room analyst” meets “die-hard fan.”
• Football IQ:
  Deep dives, especially in Xs & Os, scheme talk, and inside stories about personnel, culture, and coaching.
• Human Side of Sports:
  Player personalities, off-field culture, nostalgia (Disney, Primanti’s, Pittsburgh), and sports rumors get equal space next to stat-packed analysis.
• Audience Utility:
  If you didn’t watch, this episode gives you the real-time inside pulse on Week 11 in the NFL, why college football’s selection process is a madhouse, and how legends like Gronk still make the league tick.

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In Sum

Who should listen?
Serious football fans, gamblers, New England die-hards, and anybody who loves a chaotic, deeply informed, uncensored sports bar atmosphere.

What you’ll take away:
The Patriots are back and their fans are savoring every second. Mike Vrabel and Drake May might be building the new dynasty. College football’s powerbrokers are a hot mess. Gronk is the most dominant tight end ever, and women's hoops stars are breaking records every night. And, if you’re betting tonight, bet the Patriots—but beware the football gods.

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End of summary.

Transcript

[A]

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the ThunderDome. On this NFL Week 11 kickoff Thursday, November 13, 2025. This program begins now. Football is happening tonight. Week 11 of the NFL season will kick off an AFC east battle will be happening in Foxborough, Massachusetts at 39 degrees 3% chance of rain. But somehow the Patriots will control that weather in their favor as they are 12 and a half point favorites hosting this New York jets team who might have found something in the last couple weeks. They've got some big wins in the AFC north against Cincinnati and Cleveland. Now they have the New England Patriots who have the odds on favorite for the MVP at quarterback. A second year sensation out of North Carolina who's leading a Patriots squad who has a new supreme commander and Mike Vrabel who has really taken on the image of this man. They are young, they are hungry, they are electrifying and they might win the Super Bowl. And on that note, the New England Patriots fans are saying, well guess who's back, back again. It is them. Tell a friend. Tonight should be electrifying for Drake May in primetime in New England for the first time as the odds on favorite to be the mvp. I think what you're going to see from Patriots fans tonight is going to be a show. I think it is going to be a very difficult place to play. I think this New York jets team obviously finding their way with Aaron Glenn as the head coach. We've seen them have some success. I think they're walking into a buzzsaw and I'm not the only one. Obviously you saw the percentage of bets that are being placed on the Patriots minus 12 and a half. Almost 60% of the people are seeing it the same way. Even though 12 and a half points is a lot of points for a division matchup. I think tonight's one of those buzz saws. I've been there, I've actually been on sideline on one of these and boy, when it gets going up there those mass holes have, have weapons as lips and they, they are good and they have reason to be as such. Here's the tale of the tape for the offense and defensive rankings. Pass offense worst ever right there.

[B]

This one bar none.

[A]

Worst ever might of all time. I mean we haven't started doing those stats but I know that without one catch last week, which is hard to say, but it was a check. We saw it. It was just a little throw screen over here. Not even a screen really because you didn't have to get over anybody. It was just like it Was just, wasn't even to the flat. I mean it was just a six yard handoff. There it is right here. Aside from this, There was like 12 yards of passing for the New York jets. And then obviously you go all the way back to like the early part of the season right before halftime. They potentially could go drive and Aaron Glenn, new head coach is getting everything questioned. He's like, well, yeah, right. We've thrown for six yards this half. You think we're going to open this thing up and try to go into half at a deficit. So they certainly have a passing deficit for the New York jets offense as a whole. But they have a good run run game. Okay, they have a good run game, they're able to get going. Defense started showing some signs of life. They have the 4th over rush offense, 28th total offense, 8th pass defense, 25th rush defense and the 19th total defense. And then you look at his Patriots team. That's Stefon Diggs you see right there over Drake May's shoulder. He's bought in completely all in, don't need a ball. Every play everywhere we've seen him at the end, we always wonder if he wasn't getting the ball enough. Is that why he's pissed? Is that why he's moving on at the Patriots with Mike Vrabel? He's just bought in. He's on a hands team, he's on Haynes team. He's jumping up, exposing himself like this at the very end of a game, knowing that he's going to get absolutely rocked there for this Patriots team. So when you talk about buy in, you're talking about what happens on that play and what we've seen all season with this Patriots team. It's going to be a special night, I do believe as the New England folk are going to get a chance to celebrate maybe the next dynasty up there. The toxic table is here at Ty Schmidt and at Boston. Connor, everything I just said there, I've been living alongside you, experiencing it as a Patriots fan. Had a couple run rough years. Oh yeah, had a couple rough.

[B]

Brutal.

[A]

Yeah, it was pretty brutal there. You know at the end you guys had a defensive coordinator as your offensive coordinator and you had a special teams coach as a quarterback coach. And then obviously there was an ugly breakup and then there was a hiring of an ex player. This guy's. The guy doesn't go good at all. Fire him. New coach comes in. Are you wasting a young quarterback? And then now here we are. You have the MVP favorite, a quarterback. Yeah. Josh McDaniel is the offensive coordinator who's obviously had all the success in the NFL at offense. Coordinator, doesn't want to be a head coach anymore. I've done that a couple times. I don't like that life. My family really enjoy living up here. And we have this guy as our quarterback. You got Mike Vrabel, who can call home there forever. You got Drake, who could play. He's 23 or something like that. Play literally for another 20 years. Like he can actually play for another 20 years of football. You guys are just living the high life. And tonight is maybe a primetime celebration that we're back. Is that kind of a good way to view tonight?

[B]

Yeah, for sure. I mean, like you said, I've been saying this for a little bit, but hearing you say it does mean more. Hearing you say that, Drake, Mason, mvp, front runner, and that. That is a real thing right now in the world, is just absurd. Yeah, tonight is going to be one of those nights where, yeah, we're back. Okay. Right now, if we win tonight, we will move into the one seed. Now, that might only last till Sunday, but the Colts are on a bye week. So if the Broncos were to lose, then, yes, we will be the one seed the entire week next week. I don't know if you guys want to see that. I don't know if I want to see that, honestly. I might get, you know, a little bit too big for my boat, if you will. But one of the things, too.

[A]

Need a big boat.

[B]

Need a bigger boat. Exactly. One of the. Tonight, you know, debut in New Jersey.

[A]

That's so sick.

[C]

The nor'.

[B]

Easters. Yeah, it's this color.

[D]

Storm blue.

[B]

It's storm blue. So you're talking about controlling the. Controlling the weather.

[A]

Look at the video for it. This is what we're doing tonight.

[B]

Straight out of Gloucester. Yeah, exactly. It's hard hats, It's Gloucester. It's everything that's right in Massachusetts. Gloucester, one of the most iconic towns.

[C]

Boom.

[B]

There it is. And you mentioned Stefon Diggs. Darius Butler came in here and he said on Monday, holy shit. Stefon Diggs is just as good as he was three years ago. The fact that there was a conversation about him not being the same guy this offseason was crazy. But no, it is one of those things. Hey, I don't want to say anything. I don't want to jinx anything. I don't believe in that. And also, I think it's more so of a take your pick night. Mike Vrabel will pull his pants down. It's going to be a. Take your pick. Piss or poop. You know, which one do you want? Jets. You want to piss on you? You want to poop on you.

[A]

Think you guys are going to kill the Jets?

[B]

Yeah, I think, I think it's going to be a blowout. I love the over the under pick rather I heard Gumpy say under. Love that the over unders 43 and a half. I'm looking at 42 nothing. I don't see any other reason to believe anything else. The only thing the jets can do is run the football. The best part of our dominant team really not. Not just defense, not just offense. The best part of our team is our run defense. Without a doubt the number one in the league. That's cool. But just when you watch it, they are suffocating.

[A]

You see the stat, it says number one. That's cool. It signifies they're better than everybody else. But when you actually watch it, you see it is problematic. I mean you are not moving at all. Vrabel defense feels like he's just a hard nosed tough defense doesn't get talked about a lot.

[B]

No.

[A]

Drake obviously talked about a lot. Vrabel talked about a lot. I mean you go through everything that we just rattled off defense not really getting chatted about. Lockdown island corner. Okay. Problematic. Christian Gonzalez in the number one rush defense. Is this just what's to be expected because Vrabel's here or what is your kind of your thoughts on that?

[B]

That's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking when you talk about teams like let's go to the Lions. The Lions built their team in the trenches. That is kind of the. Very similar to what I think Vrabel will do except instead of, you know, the Aiden Hutchinson outside pass rusher, I think it is more of a focal point in the middle. Milton Williams, we gave him the highest contract in the history of the New England Patriots was incredible. Chris Tonga will be a guy to watch tonight. D line. He's also playing fullback and again need to just say this too. Bob Spillane is my favorite player to watch on Sundays. Watch Bob Spillane and what he does on the football field. But yeah, going to the coach of the year odds, it speaks for themselves. You know, like look at the. The top of that list. It's. It is surreal that this is a reality that we are living in that we get to talk about the Patriots like this. But Vrabel leading the way. Coach Steichen just as deserving. Coach McDonald just as deserving.

[A]

Unbelievable work up there.

[B]

All three of those guys could be plus 100.

[A]

Ben. I guess either.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

If you go with what the. I mean, because they were shite and, you know, President Trump brought it up. You got some really good leaders with really good strategy as head coaches of NFL teams. I'm not joking. I took a couple of those guys get more strategy. Listen, from. We've got some really good coaches right now.

[B]

It's awesome.

[A]

That's why, you know, a couple openings right now. Already some odds are coming out on these coaching jobs. Interesting right now. New York Giants odds on favorites. Become the next head coach there. Big Mike McCarthy. Coach Mike, you know, with a jersey swap here, that's what he would obviously look like in the New York Football Giants. Blew up there a lot of young talent. And I will say this about the New York Football Giants. They're an entertaining team.

[B]

They are.

[A]

Yeah, they are an entertaining team. They got talent and they got moxie. James Winston had his first press conference as the starting quarterback of the New York Giants. And yes, it did exactly what we hoped it would do. It lit up everybody's lives.

[D]

I want fans to know that I'm.

[B]

Gonna do my best.

[A]

You know, obviously I'm gonna have fun.

[B]

But I'm gonna execute.

[A]

Have a surgical execution and just.

[D]

And just play ball, man. Like, this is something I've been doing since I've been four years old.

[B]

And I just get to do it.

[A]

In the greatest city in the world. I'm gonna be saying it.

[E]

It's the greatest city in the world.

[A]

Yeah, that's.

[B]

That's a Hamilton reference.

[A]

If y' all don't know. Nobody in that room, nobody in that room. 10 year reunion coming up. Nobody ever saw Hamilton in that room. I'm cultured. Saw it a couple different times. And you know, his name is Alexander Hamilton. What a show.

[B]

Good pipes.

[A]

Have you ever seen it?

[B]

No, I've. I've only seen parts on Disney plus.

[A]

Okay. So I listened to this, like the soundtrack. What's his name? Very talented guy.

[C]

Lin Manuel Miranda.

[A]

Love his work in Moana. Absolutely love his work in Moana. We've been watching a lot of that with Mackenzie and then Hamilton. Unbelievable. Now, there's some people that say you should do more history than just watch Hamilton, but feels like I kind of got it under control after watching Hamilton a couple different times. Jameis immediately jumping full bore into the city that he's in. I can't wait if he gets a win. Okay. And I think it's gonna be tough, obviously, but if he gets A win. The amount of shit that's gonna be coming out after he's been sitting on all this. Okay. He. He knew that there was gonna be a Hamilton reference in that first press conference three months ago.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Okay. Now he's been sitting on stuff all season. And it's not just Jameis that is electrifying. And I know he's not playing right now, but Scatterboo took to some streaming and he certainly gave a take as well. That perfectly indicates the type of human that sc. Do you like turn your head to eat a taco or do you turn the taco for you? Like, are you dominant to the taco or does the taco like. Do you turn your head for the taco? That's a good question. Why?

[D]

It's.

[A]

It's about the dominance of the taco, though. Like if you're not. If you're turning the taco, you're dominating a taco. You see.

[C]

Good point.

[A]

You are a puppet to the taco. If you're doing this number or are you making a taco yours and are you house in that thing like this? It's all about mindset. It's all about a mentality. It's all about dominance. That guy's gonna be back, we assume, obviously. Nasty interview. That's from scat pack with a 4 as an A on his twitch. I assume that's gonna be very entertaining. But he is exactly who we think he is in all aspects of his life. Ty.

[C]

Yeah, he's the best. And you know, it just kind of sucks that that is the kind of stuff that we have to resort to because he got hurt because we were getting just highlight after highlight after highlight this season and now we're checking in and seeing, hey, what kind of tacos are he?

[A]

No, how's he.

[C]

Well, that's what. I'm not even soft. I didn't see the whole thing.

[A]

Oh, you know, hard tacos. Yeah.

[F]

Because you don't have to turn a soft.

[C]

He strikes me as a hard shell guy. Yeah, I don't think he's a soft shell guy. He strikes me well. Actually, he might be like a quesarito guy. He might be taking a hard shell.

[F]

He's going to put some.

[C]

Yeah, some. Put some cheese. Dominating it. Exactly. Wrapping that thing up, doing it his way. I mean, it's just. He's the best. The. The Giants quietly, you know, it's unfortunate that they are where they're at right now because they do have like three to four of like the most entertaining likable people in the league.

[A]

On that note, Malik Neighbors, superstar wide receiver of the New York Giants. He posted this on his IG story.

[C]

Okay, Father, I'm darting off to pursue my educational prowess.

[F]

Okay, son, don't dilly dally.

[A]

I'll be home late. It's my bridge night.

[C]

I'll see you later.

[A]

Bye.

[F]

Yo, what's up, B.

[C]

How you feeling?

[A]

So what we're saying is the Giants head coaching job is open. Okay. Mike McCarthy's name is the odds on favorite. We will talk to him next hour. His name is going to come up for a lot of these jobs because of how accomplished he is. And frankly, after we started talking to him, you could see how he would be able to walk into an interview and win it because not only the depth of the shit that he says, the motivation, the leadership, but obviously the amount of ball knowledge that he has. And I think he can relate to any generation. So I think he's going to be a favorite for a lot of these jobs if he is interested in jobs. So we're not going to. I'm not going to let him lose any leverage. So I'm not just going to say, hey, you're odds on favor for the Giants. You want to do this? I will certainly not do that and put him in that type of situation. But we will certainly ask him about him becoming the odds on favorite for a lot of these jobs in the next hour to kind of see where he's at with it all. Because does he want to coach? You know, does he want to go? We assume yes. Yeah.

[C]

Does he want to hold out for a better opportunity that may come? You know, and six in his hometown. Eight weeks.

[F]

What?

[A]

That's one half of the hammer done. Cowboys AP Tone from Plumbor, Pennsylvania, East Hills of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. You were saying hometown. That's where. Hey, Big Mike McCarthy's Pittsburgh guy.

[F]

I just figured that's what Ty was. Was referencing getting to holding out to see like what happens with that situation. If, if the wheels fall off that situation, who knows what happened.

[A]

That won't happen. We know that with the Pittsburgh Steelers and I think he was actually not referring to the. Oh, he wasn't.

[C]

Yeah, I was. And he, he, he. But he lives in dork. Oh, you know, we, we've been to the barn. I'm not saying, hey, listen, a lot of season left. A lot of season left. But let's just see what happens here. Let's not just anoint Big Mike, the head coach of the Giants right now, by the way.

[F]

Just had to get this out there. Encanto. Also written by Lin Manuel Miranda.

[B]

Awesome.

[C]

What is it?

[A]

What is it? What is it?

[C]

It's.

[F]

It's. It's a animated Disney movie. Just like.

[A]

Just like Moana will be in.

[F]

The songs are.

[A]

Yeah. I'll tell you, I didn't watch any Disney movies growing up. Mighty Ducks was at Disney.

[C]

I believe so.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I watch my ducks.

[B]

Sure.

[F]

You're talking about cartoons.

[A]

Yeah. I didn't watch any of the other stuff. Just add. Didn't get to do it. My wife thinks that's potentially why I didn't develop fully some of the emotions. Sure. You know, because, you know, I didn't go through the entire.

[C]

Sad.

[A]

Super sad, the whole thing.

[C]

Mighty Ducks is set.

[A]

I. That's what I. Is. That's. Yeah, that's what I argued. But then I watched, you know, Lion King with my daughter, and it is a little different levels of sad, especially at different ages. These animated movies are incredible. Like, so well done.

[F]

I highly recommend it.

[B]

Coco. Oh, geez. Now I'm just.

[C]

Similar veins.

[A]

There's a new one called Twitch. There was this caveman one a couple months ago. I. I mean, it is saying. It's so. Saying is so good.

[C]

So good.

[A]

I was watching. We were watching Sing as we were putting Big Night out together. I. I literally felt like I was in the movie because that's all he's trying to do is put together a show at a theater that he's trying to save, and he has to do a deal. And it's like, I'm watching this guy. Yeah, dude. I'm actually taking notes on that. Who are we talking to? That's a good idea.

[F]

You gotta leave Netflix, but Sing two Peacock just as good.

[A]

Okay. I assume it is. Yeah. The animated people. I know how long that all takes. Incredible work, ton of money. As soon as Mackenzie sees it, she's just like. She's listening. Is the song good? Yeah. Okay. If it's asked, she's out, and we gotta kind of move on. It's a good song with, I think, Lin Manuel Miranda. He's throwing heat very early in all these things. All right. Speaking of heat, there's some down in Baylor. Okay. There was a story that was released by Outkick that basically lays out a couple situations that happened around the Baylor Arizona State game where the AD Mack Rhodes, right before the Baylor offense went on the field for their first series, allegedly. What Outkick is reporting. Mack Rhodes walked up to Mike Trigg, who's the tight end of the Baylor team. And he had a yellow long sleeves on underneath his black jersey. And in the article from Outkick, it says that he had that on to cover up a brace that was on his shoulder because he was hurt. So basically that's why he was wearing it. The AD did not know that obviously at the time or did didn't care. Allegedly walks up to Michael Trick, grabs him and says, why are you wearing a yellow long sleeve? Like, not happy that that is how he is dressed for the game for Baylor. Like it was an intense interaction is what people said. Numerous sources on the sideline that were not to be named because they were worried for any back, yada, yada, yada. Then after the game there was a situation again where tight end Michael Trigg and another coach were meeting with their family and Mack Rhodes allegedly, this is via the Outkick thing. This is what's being reported. He walks up to the coach, grabs him by the arm and like the neck area and asks him why he was wearing a yellow long sleeve. So still stewing on it, basically. So this got reported. Now there's an investigation happening in Baylor because it's a verbal and a physical altercation is how it's being described. Mack Rhodes, head chair, the one speaking for the group of the CFP committee, the College Football Playoff committee. So he steps down amid investigation happening at Baylor. So obviously Baylor will run its investigation. We just told you everything that Outkick had reported that had happened there. Now we're going to tell you what happens next for the College Football Playoff committee. This feels like a pretty important piece of the puzzle, especially as we're already a couple weeks into the CFP committee doing their rankings. Joining us is a college football analyst and insider. Who, who, who, who? Hoosier fan and Pittsburgh Steeler fan, ladies and gentlemen, Heather Dinnage. Heather, how you doing?

[G]

Hey, guys. I'm good. I'm good.

[A]

Okay. So everything happening at Baylor, I don't know if you have any more information on that. This seemingly came out of nowhere this morning for a lot of people. But we definitely want to talk about the CFP situation now. So is a chair open there? Like, how does this kind of work from the College Football Playoff standpoint since the top steps down in the middle of a season? Heather?

[G]

Yes, that's right. The chair is open and the most likely scenario at this point is that they will replace Rhodes and they would replace him with a Big 12 athletic director because that's what he was. So the most likely thing is that they're going to get somebody who has done this before as well. So I would expect a former committee member to rejoin the group from the Big 12. And Baylor did confirm to ESPN today that they received allegations on Monday involving Rhodes, but that does not include anything about Title 9, Student Welfare, NCAA and does not involve the football program. That's what we know right now. We're continuing to report the story. So what's going to happen is the CFP is going to replace that seat, the seat of the chair. And they've got to do it really quickly. And what will Happen is Big 12 commissioner will nominate somebody. Oh, man, we'll prove it.

[A]

I thought we're gonna be able to get, you know. Well, not Herb street in there because he's SEC sp.

[B]

Yeah. No way.

[A]

I thought maybe we're gonna get Nick Saban in there. Maybe Des. Des going in there would be electrifying. We didn't know if we were gonna be able to start pitching names. Otter guy, maybe Stanford Steve in there. Stanford Steve needs to be in there. Can we slap an athletic director title before that? Is it gonna. Athletic director? Are those the rules? Who are the people that can be on the committee and who does? Who currently makes up the committee? Heather?

[G]

Yeah, it's an eye for an iPad. So it's going to be a Big 12 AD, and my guess is it would be somebody like Mark Harlan at Utah, who's been on there before, or Gene Taylor from K State. Kirby Hocut, the Texas Tech ad, has been the committee chair before, but I would be surprised if it would be him because they're so involved in the College Football Playoff right now. He would definitely have to recuse himself from basically everything. So, you know, I think it would probably be Harlan or maybe Gene Taylor. Those are probably the two most likely names to be considered. And who's on the committee? It's sitting athletic directors. My former colleague, Ivan Meisel at espn. You have to be a retired member of the media, though, so I'm sorry to burst your bubble. You've gotta. You gotta be retired. A media member.

[A]

Des would have been awesome. I would just like to let everybody know that Desmond Howard would've been amazing in those meetings. He is electrifying in there. Rhys Davis, obviously, he does the interview with the chair immediately afterwards. How does that whole thing work? Go ahead, Tone.

[F]

Yeah, Heather. So does the Big 12 AD that's gonna come in, do they become the chair, or does someone else from the committee move up to the chair position that will speak to Reece each week and obviously be the face of the committee?

[G]

Yeah, the commissioners have to decide that. It could absolutely just be the new person comes in and they are the voice of the cfp or they could have somebody else in the room take that position. And remember, these are three year terms. And, and to be fair, we don't know what is going to happen with Matt Rhodes. I mean, it's a. He could come back eventually. I, you know, I don't want to judge or draw any conclusions as to how long he'll be gone, but we already had this happen last month. Randall McDaniel stepped down for personal reasons as well. Usually it's a 13 member committee. Then it was at 12, now it's at 11. So definitely some holes to fill in the room.

[A]

Yeah, it sounds like a three year term. So this will be an interim chair. Whoever comes in there, I would assume you would vote from within because you've been there since the beginning. New party coming in. Got to get caught up. Don't know if they should be speaking, but could also get a fresh voice in there. I'm hearing it for the first time, kind of how we're looking at it. I guess they could kind of take it anyway. Who will be the next person to hang their white hat and walk into that meeting and decide which college football programs have a shot at winning it all? That's a hard job. That's a lot of pressure. I hope they get it right. Heather, we appreciate you joining us on such quick turnaround.

[G]

Thanks, guys. Go Steelers.

[A]

Hey, game day is going to be in Pittsburgh this weekend. I think it should be pretty electrifying.

[G]

You're going to my city, man. I hope the bur is so much fun.

[D]

I'm jealous.

[G]

I hope you guys have so much fun.

[A]

From my understanding, it's not just pit people that are going to be, I think, a lot of Pittsburgh. I think Pittsburgh's coming. I think, like, it's going to be like a football, like, celebration. I think from my understanding now I might be just talking to people that I know and maybe they feel obligated to support me, but I think like the city of Pittsburgh, I think this is going to be quite a scene here. I think it's going to be quite a football party in Pittsburgh.

[G]

Oh, that's how. That's how they roll, man. I fully expect the city to turn out. It's a football city. That's it.

[A]

Hell, yeah. Ladies and gentlemen, Heather Dennis. Yeah, Heather, I do think it's gonna be pretty bananas.

[B]

No doubt.

[A]

I think it is. Yeah. From my understanding, from what I've Heard from people back, once again, they might be lying to me, you know, because they feel obligated to be like, hey, because, boy, everybody would like a potential hey, if you can swing by. Hey, if you can swing by. Which I appreciate and completely understand. So I'm gonna try my best to go ahead and do all of that, for sure. But it feels like a lot of people are thinking about coming, which is a very cool thing.

[F]

I promise you. It's going to be packed. Just because the amount of times that it's going to be 60 degrees in November, like the amount of times that we would just go down, like, if it was West Virginia coming to town, Notre Dame coming down. Those parking lots are always full with probably about 50, 000 people that aren't going into the game.

[A]

So I think the last bit. Big Notre Dame pit game. There were some people we know that ended up in a hospital, didn't make it in.

[B]

It was a good. That was a good time.

[A]

Yeah. They got carried out of park.

[C]

Oh, no.

[A]

Who's that?

[F]

That person was, if I remember correctly, chugging a vodka bottle. And there was going.

[A]

Somebody stop him. Yeah. There was people that were trying to save this man's life, and they had.

[F]

We didn't stop.

[A]

They had the forecasting ability of Joe Nardo because he should have stopped.

[C]

They were right.

[A]

Yeah. He ended up, I guess, in between some cars.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Found by other people, put into an ambulance and then, you know, sent out there. And I think before chugging that vodka goes. Because. Because you can't do it. Doesn't me. I can't. And then, you know, that entire thing, which we like, the confidence, but certainly not the decision, but that's what we're talking about. I'm not saying anybody's doing that. 20, 25. Everybody knows better.

[F]

Sure.

[A]

Everybody knows better.

[B]

Definitely.

[A]

But what we're saying is it is a football city. It should be pretty epic. On Saturday, I'm thinking the drinking event. Bingo. And it's warm.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. The warm weather. That. That is. I didn't even think about that. That's a huge game changer.

[A]

A story about them putting in the alcohol tax. You remember we told a story about the alcohol tax that they dropped in there, and they projected whatever, and it was like 20x that. And they realized the city had a problem. But then they also said this tax is staying forever, you know, and that's Pitts. Pittsburgh's going to be a good time. I can't win it. Can't wait to get back there. Pitts got A tough game, though. Hey, Notre Dame's good team right now. Notre Dame's good team right now.

[C]

Doesn't matter, though. You know, their head coach said, hey, doesn't matter if we get beat by 100. You know, we just. We're just trying to win an ACC championship so that, you know, does it even matter?

[A]

Run it. Do you feel like this is a must win for this team when it comes to. Absolutely not. You know, it is not an ACC game. I'm glad you brought that up. It's not an ACC game. You know, I gladly get beat 103.

[D]

Or 110 to 10 in that game.

[A]

They can put 100 up on us as long as we win the next two after that.

[D]

But again, our focus is on Notre.

[A]

Dame and getting as many wins as we can. We'll be talking to Coach Narduzzi tomorrow and say, what was it?

[C]

Yeah, why did you say that?

[A]

Why did you have such an exact score already? It felt like he had said that already to somebody else. Like, it literally could be 103 to 10, 110 to 10. He gave himself 10 points there, which I think was good. When did they score that? Is that garbage time? Is that after it's already over 100? Like, is that before their last 10 times? Seems like he had thought about that answer. I assume what he'll tell us is he was just informing everybody, like, hey, the outcome of this game does not matter for what we still have going. So I think he's trying to get the narrative out there and the information to people. I think, like, hey, we're still very much in the ACC race this weekend. You're going to see there's going to be a lot of eyes on our team. Does not matter. I think that's probably what he'll say. And on the flip side of that, if I'm in the locker room, I don't think I want to hear that from my coach. But these are all Narduzzi guys. This is a Narduzzi culture. Narduzzi has built this team, and he's been there a long time. He probably has a better feel of it. I did not expect a coach to ever say that. No, I did not, coach. I did not expect that.

[F]

But he also said y yesterday on his radio show. I saw, too. He told pit fans, it's a noon kickoff, get down there early, get liquored up.

[A]

So he said that? Yep.

[F]

He said, get liquored up.

[A]

Yeah. So he. That's what I'm saying. He knows he gets what he's doing. I. So. And obviously, I didn't know. I'll play a pit. I'll be excited to see how that all goes.

[B]

Me, too.

[A]

Yeah, I. I will be excited to see how that all goes. I'll be excited to get back, but, I don't know, like, the pit, inside inner workings or whatever, have to have a lot of body in to be able to go up there and say, if we lose by 100, we don't care. Nick, you want the pit? What are your thoughts on we could potentially lose 103 to 10 or whatever it is?

[C]

You know, at first you hear that.

[A]

And you think that's a. That's a weird thing to say. With a gigantic game coming up and, you know, a chance to go win the acc, ACC championship and put on a national spotlight and beat Notre Dame on the way to do that, that.

[D]

Felt like the right thing to do.

[A]

But, you know, I think maybe just a little bit of a deflection. Maybe just a little bit. Let's get Notre Dame nice and comfortable. Hey, come in here. You can beat us.

[B]

It doesn't matter.

[A]

Oh, you think he. You think it's his gamesmanship? Closed Cecilia. Not a coach. Nard. Potentially a little gamesmanship from the dudes down there I didn't even think about. Nardu's coming on show tomorrow off air, going, hey, I told the boys I'm gonna go say this, because these Notre Dame kids, they'll forget about the game. So you guys fell for it like a bunch of marks. You guys are a bunch of losers. What if Narduzzi says that? He says, listen, when I'm talking to the team and when I'm talking to Notre Dame and when I'm talking to all different, tell the team, hey, I'm going to go saves. Tell them Notre Dame. Yeah, hire three or ten, whatever. Tell the fans, need you liquored up. Got to be more direct with the fans, you know. Got to be a little bit more direct with them. With Notre Dame, you can kind of passive aggressively, hopefully lower the expectations on their end. So maybe they're not as prepared to come into Acker Field sold out. Would that be more Notre Dame, more Pit?

[B]

Pit.

[A]

What do you think it'll be? 70, 30, you think 60, 40, 40. It's going to be close. I. I wouldn't be surprised. 50, 50. Jeez. I'm serious. It's just, that's what. It's a pro sports town. We all know that Pit has attendance problems because the stadium is too big for what the Program is at the moment they need their own stadium. Everyone agrees on that. Tony to Tone started and then Ben Rollsberger back. So then he was in a good spot. Especially this week. You got pit Notre Dame on Saturday, then he got Steelers on Sunday, same grass. So look for that to definitely be a storyline coming out of Sunday's game one way or another. Because Pittsburgh, you know, we don't have best weather. Pittsburgh not have the best weather. So do you always have the best grass in those types of towns? Absolutely not. Have the Pittsburgh Steelers ever said like, hey, we're going to fix this problem and we're going to use the newest turf? Absolutely not. Football's on grass. Okay? It's outside and it's on grass is how Pittsburgh football town feels. So every single beginning of winter and then through the end of college football season, let alone high school state championships happening there, Whitby championships happening there. Always a conversation about how ass the field is, but that's just like what Pitt and Pittsburgh football is like. You just play on an ass field. Hey, they're spray painting the dirt to make it look like grass. Not a bad play. Very Pittsburgh of them, I would say. That's a good angle. Hey, what are we doing? You're trying to do this. I can't wait to see what game day does.

[B]

It looks like it's going to be incredible. But the other side of the coin to this, this pick conversation is, you know, Notre Dame, Marcus Freeman also know, like, hey, this is one of the last opportunities we have to really prove ourselves to the College Football Playoff. Like, is this the last ranked opponent on their schedule? I'm assuming it is. Like they need to also make a statement. So Narduzzi might be saying that because he knows there's a beast coming. There's a two headed monster coming into town right now and we might get beat by 100. So I need to let the fans know. I need to let the pit fans know, like, hey, when we get beat by 100, don't you know, absolutely kill me. We still got everything in front of.

[A]

And the pit fans will say, sure, we lose by 100. Notre Dame. Yeah, we got everything in front of us.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

That's a. Heather just texted Mike Foss to get to us. Tell him that Heather Dinich has just confirmed Mark Harlan, the Utah ad, has been nominated to replace Mack Rhodes, the chair of CFP committee who stepped down earlier today because of something happening at Baylor. Not a lot of details. Outkick reported one particular incident. Well, I guess two separate incidents on one particular day, who knows what else is coming down the line? But now, Utah AD Mark Harlan is in. Hey, get it right, Mark.

[D]

Goodbye, Mark.

[A]

Hey, Mark, take a second look at that WVU Mountaineers team, how they're playing now. Okay. If we're trying to get the best teams in there, Scotty Fox, these boys, a little bit of a hard edge. Maybe we slip in the back. Yep. Here's the Western Mountaineers playing against Colorado this past weekend. Steve Slayton was honored for going into the College Football hall of fame. The 2005 Sugar Bowl Championship were in attendance. I think they said 60,000 people.

[B]

Oh, hell, yeah.

[F]

Packed us.

[B]

That's awesome.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. And I think we're going. Look, look.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Packed out. And we are not going anywhere this season like we are right now. Building for next season is what we are doing. Might end up with a bowl game. Got it. All good. Which would be great, but I think everybody is in the same understanding, like, hey, we are building a program right now. So the fact that that place was. Was filled up. Good news.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Great news going forward.

[B]

Did you get a chance to talk to the Utah AD when you guys were in there for game day or anything? When. When you guys were there, was it just the head coach conversation?

[A]

Yeah, yeah, I think.

[C]

Good chat.

[A]

Yeah, it was a good conversation. He's a good guy.

[C]

Brief, very busy, obviously.

[A]

And when you look at a photo of him, you obviously know, like, hey, when you see him, you know. You know Mark Harland. Yeah, you definitely. When you see a photo of the Utah athletic director, Mark Harlan. Harlan, you really know exactly what you're like. You say, that's the Utah. Yeah, I did meet him. Yeah. Yeah, I did talk to him. Yes, yes, I certainly did.

[B]

Kevin Harlan in him.

[A]

Yeah. Well, it may be related.

[F]

That one with the Utah in the background is kind of a mix of Lambo and Brandon Bean.

[A]

Ooh, that's not bad, actually. A little combo if you're going to be a football athletic person. Mark Long Bean, good handshake. Mark Harlan. He has now been nominated to replace Macro Rhodes in this College Football Playoff committee, who will be selecting the 12 that'll be counting down to one.

[F]

It's interesting because you tell us 14.

[B]

Maybe if they get in, you guys.

[A]

See, Devin's gonna say, don't get too.

[C]

Don't get too comfortable. Byu. Don't get a bit too comfortable.

[A]

Tough lost Texas.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Can't lose another one big time.

[A]

Imagine Mark Harlan.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

These guys are frauds. We got to get them out of Here. That's my, I mean my first order of business, get. Get BYU the hell out of here.

[A]

I do wonder how the Cougs feel. I do. They had him out. He was out. Now he's back in.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Oh man. Bear Bachmar. He's going to have to deal with this for the next three years. His three year terms, his whole career. That's tough. Ryan Smith needs to make some calls.

[B]

Yeah, their basketball team actually has been making calls for BYU. They just signed a 22 year old center out of the G league.

[A]

Yeah, I heard that's becoming a thing. People aren't happy about that. Speaking of The G League, LeBron's head donner, he's designated for the South Bay Lakers. He will be in the G League doing some five on five practice. And I think that's maybe because the boys with the Lakers aren't doing that at this time of the season. So he needs to go get some work. If LeBron James is going to play in a couple of G league games, impact these smaller gyms out. It's going to be epic. I think personally this is just like in the off season. I think Kevin Durant has done it. Obviously. Kyrie's done it. LeBron's done it. Kobe did it like drew league and then Rucker park games like other leagues are. I think Equinox had a league.

[B]

Jamal, Jamal Crawford had a. Had a league as well.

[A]

Yeah, Crossovers league. Like every one of these leagues in the off season, whenever a superstar shows up, the atmosphere in the gyms are just absolutely outrageous. So I don't know if he's playing in any of these games. I have no idea if that's even possible. But if we're getting an atmosphere like we see in those off season games that guys are playing like, I think Kevin Durant just won absolutely ape shit at Rutgers. If I, if I'm thinking back, yeah.

[B]

He had like four or five threes in a row.

[A]

Yeah, that's a moment that goes. Kobe showing up.

[C]

Walking out drew league stuff with Kobe is crazy.

[A]

Yeah, Insanity. Kyrie, obviously. And it's like those are cool content pieces. And I'm not saying, hey, the NBA season should be treated like content, but I am saying if this dude's showing up in some G league gyms and the place is going crazy, that'd be great content. Especially with how the Lakers are. The Lakers are good basketball team. Right? He's not even playing.

[B]

Yeah, they're rolling. A lot of people think that when he comes back, he's going to change the entire makeup of the team. Since he's LeBron, he needs the ball. And then Luke will have the ball less. KD and Speed actually just played 2. 2 on 2. I don't know if you saw it.

[A]

I. Katie walked out.

[B]

Yeah. Incredible. Yeah. Like the fact that they do that stuff. I mean, it kind of goes back to the wingman conversation yesterday with the NHL. Like the NBA has always been really good at, like their stars kind of promoting themselves, but also just the league and basketball in general in the off season.

[A]

Like speed. So athletic.

[B]

Yeah. Legit.

[A]

That is an absurd athlete, this speed guy. What a perfect time to be a freak athlete and have the ability to have moxie at all times. Hey, just watch me go conquer all of these things. Everybody that's great at everything is going to say, yep, this guy could have done this for a living. That's a great content piece.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And that speeds life. I think he was even the mayor of a city. What, in Peru?

[B]

Yeah, Yeah.

[A]

I mean, this guy could have been American.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

He was like a second away from breaking the NBA record on the six cone drill or whatever the hell it was.

[A]

Yeah, he.

[C]

He's out won the Royal Rumble.

[B]

Yeah, well, almost.

[A]

That thing turned quickly. It did certainly turn quickly there, Braun. Breakers and explosive athlete as well. But on that note, Speed. Keep doing it, man. We love watching.

[B]

Yeah, baby. Impressive.

[A]

Very, very impressive. Lethal shooter. Also incredible. Maybe lethal gets on that South Bay thing up. I didn't like the quick analysis you gave of the entire Lakers and the Lakers season that you dropped in right before that. But I want to let you know, it's good NBA stuff. Let's get back to college football. You're a Massachusetts guy. Did you see your university up there?

[B]

Yeah, my father's a proud alumni, so. Go Minutemen, baby.

[A]

UMass down 45 zip in the fourth quarter. Quarter. Run it. No sound. Guy makes kick. 54 yards.

[B]

Beautiful.

[A]

What a time. Field goal's good. We're not shut out anymore. Great kick. Number 99, fireworks.

[C]

What are we doing?

[A]

They were saving that all night. They were saving that. They got 1400 people in that crowd. Maybe. I'm not 100% sure.

[B]

Sweet fireplace, though.

[A]

Sweet. In the barracks in the back there. I don't know exactly what that is. It's beer garden back there at a barracks. That's pretty cool. I assume some military veteran was part of that entire thing, so we appreciate that. The Minutemen, obviously. Massive military conversation. They were waiting to put on a show. They got a night game.

[C]

They got a night.

[B]

It's a brand new stadium.

[A]

What are they supposed to do? Put up whatever they want. Down 28. No, they can't do that. So old buddy comes in, kicks a 54 yarder. They all go, wow, that's impressive. And the guy who's on the button, Mr. Zambelli probably. Yep, that deserves it. Send it. Six minutes left in this game. What are we going to do? Just have he sit here until next 4th of July?

[C]

Yeah, you're right.

[A]

They sent it out there. You didn't want him it to do. Do that?

[C]

No, I mean that's embarrassing. You can't be doing that. They knew this type of stuff was going to happen. Listen, my, my wife is also a proud alum of. Of Zooma. So like, I get it. But I mean, come on, what? Fireworks show's cool. It looks cool. It looks very, very cool.

[A]

Well, maybe it just so happened to be a fireworks show for the rest of the town. Maybe the kick that could have been happened to happen at the same time as scheduled fireworks show for rest of time. Maybe, maybe it did just so happen to happen.

[F]

This is the highlight of their season.

[B]

This is.

[F]

A lot of people are saying this is the worst D1 college football team of all time.

[B]

That's not true. That's not true. Don't listen to Tony. That's not true. You asked minute man. Got a lot of fight. Okay. Yeah, they're owing 10. Yeah. They set off fireworks after hitting a field goal to go down 45 to 3. But they're building. They're coming. That's a brand new stadium right there. They're set out the fireworks because it's like, hey, are we going to, you know, crumble in the moments when we beat freaking Ohio State for practicing?

[A]

Yeah. For years to come. They're building a program too.

[B]

Exactly.

[A]

How do we know what these firework look like when we need them next year when we're running for a championship? If we don't run them this year, when we're down 45, zip, boom. So they're like, we got to get eyes on these fireworks to see if they're the right one. Yeah.

[B]

Make adjustments, you know, I mean this is. We're talking about Massachusetts. This is a do your job type of time. I don't know if it's a Zambelli. If I had to guess, it'd probably be a mix something or oh, something. But either way, it's still one of those things where what are they going to go in blind when they beat freaking Texas Tech at home next year. I mean, go. Go down the list. I won't say my Hoosiers, but Ohio State, they're coming. Oregon, they're coming. Byu. Don't even think about it. Afterthought. All. All those schools. And that is exactly why UMass had to let that one fly. And although the entire press box cackled at them, audibly laughed.

[A]

We don't need that, is what I read. Yeah, we don't need that.

[B]

Practice makes perfect. All right.

[A]

Geez, you think fireworks are perfect all the time? No. Go to the hospital. Check the records. There's a lot of mistakes that happen now. Speaking of fireworks. Fireworks. Audi Crooks, my new favorite basketball player.

[B]

Hell, yeah.

[A]

21 minutes last night. 43 points, seven rebounds, two assists. So there was a report. It was in 19 minutes. Then we looked at the.

[B]

The box score.

[A]

The box score said 21 minutes. Now this is reporting 20 minutes. Whatever the case, Audi Crooks doesn't need a lot of time.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

But she's going to take over. And we just need to be prepared for March Madness for it to be the Audi Crook show, because my timeline has already become that. I think every game that she plays, plays. I'm seeing absurd stat lines like this, and I legitimately don't think she's stoppable. No, just from the highlights that I've seen, she goes, takes a break. She comes out, takes over the entire game. Okay. Then it's Audi Crook's time is. It's like a closing pitcher. She gets an entrance. Anytime she comes in, the whole place knows. The other team knows it's about to go down. Her team knows we're putting this ball one place. It's awesome. Audi Crooks, I think you're winning a national championship.

[B]

Yeah, Good.

[A]

They're going to win a national championship.

[C]

And she. I mean, she's an Iowa legend. I. I want to say she's from Bishop Garrigan. I think that's where she went to high school. I want to say her mom is maybe a Hall of Famer at either Iowa State or at her high school, but she's been doing this stuff. Like, I. When she really kind of popped onto the scene a couple years ago, I said, okay, I got. I got to take a peek at this and kind of, you know, go through the layers a little bit. And I went back and looked at, like, a lot of her high school box scores. She's been putting up stat lines like that since she's been a freshman in high. Like, she. If she's unstoppable so now it's. It's just a matter of, hey, our team's gonna throw five defenders at her. And do we have other girls?

[A]

She from the free throw line?

[C]

I think she's pretty decent. She fills. She fills up the bucket. So, yeah, it's, you know, if I was state can find, I, you know, I haven't done a deep dive on their roster this year. I don't know what kind of wing players they have, you know, what kind of guards they have, but if they can get a little bit of production outside of her, like, she's gonna average 30 to 35 points a game, 72%.

[A]

Shooter from the line.

[C]

That's pretty good.

[A]

They just did the research. And she wasn't the only one. Women's college, Hoo. Yeah.

[B]

Hannah Hidalgo for Notre Dame. She went bananas. 44 points. Yeah, that's cool.

[C]

16 steals.

[B]

I don't know. I don't know how that happened. And just. Okay. They're playing Akron. I'm so sorry. To the Akron women's basketball team that they had to get guarded by Hannah Hidalgo because. Talk about a nightmare. I don't know what the record is either for steals in a game, but 16 is the highest I've seen in a long time. Just across the board. Men's or women's? She damn near had a triple double with steals. I mean, it's ridiculous.

[A]

Hannah Houdini, go, now you have it, now you don't. She's a magic woman. I think it's incredible that she can be the most athletic person on the defensive side. Normally that's the case. This deals is like reading, quickness, hand, eye coordination, you name it, that's it. And then on the other side, fills it up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, just absolutely feels, hey, women's college hoops. Hey. I'm not. I cannot sit here on this. On this day. I cannot sit here and say that I have watched any of these game shows in full. I will try to at some point in the near future, but women's college hoops has been coming through the algorithm for me, and it's because they're. They have superstars over there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's a record for who? For the entire NCAA. Women's NCAA record. 16. The record was 14, so 16, see, was a record. So like these superstars seemingly in women's college hoops. Right. Right now taking over algo, like multiple Audi crooks. I don't know who's cooking up the Internet for Audi crooks. She's got memes. I mean, she's got. She is unstoppable. And then Hannah Hidalgo. Ray, I'm like, I've never heard of this person. Unbelievable. Is this the best player of all time?

[B]

Yeah. And I have to say it because she plays for Fairfield. But this year's Caitlin Clark right now is Megan Anderson. She leads women's Division one.

[A]

And where'd she go?

[B]

She goes to Fairfield University. Stag.

[C]

She's a stag.

[A]

She's a stag.

[B]

Yeah, that's right. Roll Stag. She, I believe she's aver averaging like 33 points a game. Genuine problem. They beat Villanova in the first week of the season.

[A]

They came and played Indiana, right?

[B]

Yeah, they came, played. Indiana is real tight for a quarter or two, but again, we were a little bit outmatched. But we didn't have Megan Anderson.

[A]

Update. 16 steals is a record for both men's and women's college hoops. Congratulations, Hannah.

[D]

Unbelievable.

[A]

Here are some Hembo stats on Hannah Hidalgo. 44 points breaks Notre Dame scoring record record as well.

[B]

Geez.

[C]

Okay, good night.

[B]

A lot of great players.

[A]

Sorry, we did not know this. We are getting these stats in real time from Hembo. This is 100% on it. We should have looked into it. We will. I think. Hands up, I don't think we are the women's college hoops go to, but maybe if superstars are showing up every single night, why not Ty? And we also did take a program. We did to go celebrate women's March Madness in Iowa. In the middle of a blizzard.

[C]

In the middle of a blizzard. Bad blizzard, saw a lot of semis in the, you know, middle of the highway, that kind of stuff. But it's also, it's early right now, you know, so we're. You're not going to. You don't need to pay attention to this kind of stuff. Once we get into conference play and we're seeing, you know, Audi crooks taking on whoever Texas's best player, that's when you really zone in. You say, okay, college basketball season's here.

[A]

They fill the bucket up.

[C]

They do.

[A]

They fill the bucket up. Did we watch before Caitlyn Clark was playing? I remember watching the WVU women's basketball team whenever I was at school.

[C]

Yeah, when I was in school, I went to a game or two.

[B]

They were a cool group of girls like Taurasi. That, that era when they were at.

[A]

UConn was a beast. Yeah, I remember that. And then Candace.

[B]

Candace Parker. Yeah. Tennessee. Yeah.

[C]

It's always like superstar driven Skyler Diggins. She was, I Mean, I figured she had the Notre Dame points record too.

[A]

Yeah, she did. I think 41 maybe. Nope. Ruth Riley in 1999 had. And Jewel Lloyd obviously in 2014 had 40 and scored 18 straight Notre Dame points in the first half and 12 straight points for either team in the second quarter. She won 12 in the second quarter against this team. That's unbelievable.

[F]

Zips are a good team.

[C]

Yeah, tough night for Zips.

[B]

But that's what we were just talking about with the NBA. Like it is a stars driven league. It's really just a stars driven sport. Like in college basketball, we had Cooper flag last year and there's a couple other players this year now. But if there aren't massive, massive stars just in hoops in general, it's just not something you follow as closely. But the women's basketball has a ton this year now.

[A]

Yeah. Let's talk a little bit more about the football, shall we? Cooper cup is heading back to Sofi. You know, he's obviously back home with the Seattle Seahawks. A man who's from that area has joined the Seattle Seahawks team and they have become a wagon. Okay, a wagon. But Cooper Cup's no stranger to wagons. He's been a part of a few before. Remember, he's a man who won the, they always say triple crown, but they forget also the yards after catch. So he, he won all four of the wide receiver ones. We're talking yards, touchdowns, catches and yards after catch. Cooper special talent, nobody could have expected him either with who he was. Not a lot of fanfare. And then him and Matthew Stafford, just one absolutely absurd. He goes to Seattle Seahawks now. He's going back to Sofi. You know, won a Super bowl there, won some awards there, did some things to welcome Los Angeles and the Rams back into that city and that stadium. And here's him talking about the emotions of heading back to Sofi.

[B]

This is another cool bowl game.

[A]

What?

[B]

Get out there, play your game. Yeah. I mean love these guys. Love, love so many of the guys over there. And by the end of the day, gotta go, go play football game. So that's, that's gonna be what it is. Try to treat this the same as any other game. Yeah. Go out there and just, you know, be able lock in, do your job one play after the next and take that, take that play by play mindset and yeah, same, same as. Same as usual.

[A]

Where it is that they're gonna do some of kind sort of tribute to you there. You know, how do you acknowledge that by. And also stay locked in like you're talking about.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

I don't know.

[B]

I didn't know that. I don't know. I, I didn't die.

[A]

You know, I'm here.

[B]

Yeah, man. I appreciate it. It's obviously so thankful for my time there. Incredible experience built so much with just the fans, with the, the guys that I was able to play with and just very experienced. Nothing but love for that city and. Yeah, but I mean, like I said, you got to be able to lock in for the game and what's, what's ahead of you. So I think it'll be, it'll be fun. I'm excited to go out there. It's a really good football team. Really good football team presents some great challenges for us.

[A]

And obviously players returning to a team that they had a lot of success with is no stranger to the NFL. The business is the business business. Earlier this year, Micah Parson going back to Dallas was obviously a huge story.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And Jerry said there will be no tribute. We. He's got enough good stuff. Yeah. They're going to clap for him basically. Now if Emmett comes back, that's a little different.

[C]

Different story.

[A]

Troy Aikman, two eights.

[C]

Different story.

[A]

These are all different stores. You know, we, we Mountain Pop here, Mountaintop here. Cooper cup going back to la. I assume that's going to be a. I, I think it's probably going to be a massively positive negative response and I think that's how probably everybody feels about the situation, including Rams and Seahawks fans alike.

[C]

Yeah, I mean we talked about it like the Micah stuff never really made sense because they didn't win a Super Bowl. Like he was obviously an unbelievable player, but Cooper cup won a Super bowl with them. I think we talked about it earlier this week. Like he was, you know, he got, he was the last guy outside of quarterback to get MVP votes the year he had the Triple Crown and you know, the Yankees act. So it's like he, he is the one who kind of. Him and Stafford obviously, but like he was the best receiver in the NFL and he was the one who really helped kind of launch this new Rams.

[A]

I don't.

[C]

You can't really call it a dynasty, but like he, he was the one who. Yeah, exactly like they are. He. Yeah. A pillar of them being in LA and it's like, hey, this is LA's team now. So it makes sense that they would have a very warm welcome for him.

[A]

Cooper cup. Whenever you talk about history, he's sitting at the. The top of it. Damn receptions including playoffs. 20, 21 Cooper Cup. 178 receiving yards. 20, 21. 2,425 yards. Second place, Larry Fitzgerald in the history of the NFL, 1,977. That's crazy. Holy.

[B]

Yeah, a lot. A lot of big playoff moments for him.

[A]

Not a lot. I'll tell you what. But that's an insane stat right there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

2,425 yards receiving yards is the most in NFL history, including the playoffs. Obviously they win that year. Larry Fitzgerald in second. Under 2000. He's. He's closer to 3000. No. Yeah. I mean, he's. What a season. Is he going to do that again? Is he going to do that with Sam Darnold next year, have a fully healthy season and maybe to do this again? And then first downs, obviously, in a season he had 108. Michael Irvin playmaker had 100 in 1995. He was special. Cooper cup and the Rams are special. Special. If you're seeing a guy as a fan of a team go for 2,425 yards in one season, I assume your natural reaction whenever you see that person later in life is going to be.

[C]

Hey, yeah, I love this.

[A]

Yeah. So this weekend, I think will be a good return for Cooper cup. And I'm happy for him for that.

[C]

He must had 200 catches. He had like four years worth of production in one season. And a playoff run, like, that's insane. That's insane.

[A]

For that reason. 78%. What's the number of. What's the number of percentage of bets that are on the Seahawks right now? 74% of the money are on the Seahawks.

[E]

Really?

[A]

Plus three and a half going into LA. LA's wearing very cool uniform. They're wearing midnight mode. Oh, yeah. Great name, great uni. Okay. And we assume the fans are potentially going into midnight mode as well.

[C]

Have to.

[A]

I assume it's going to be pretty dark out there so far. It's going to be a daunting. They'll clap for Cooper Grupp. And then we're back to whose house? Ramshaws. Matthew Stafford. With those teeth all dark, you'll be able to see he's gonna turn like this and they're gonna. He's actually gonna use his teeth as a decoy for one of the safeties. Hey, this way. And that safety's gonna go. I got Matthew Stafford this piece. And then Matthew Stafford's gonna do one of these and it's gonna go right over the stage. How this son of a bitch. And then it's Gonna be Puka going, ha ha. And, and he's going to run so hard. Maybe through a wall. Yeah, maybe through a wall on the back. That's what we're looking at in the 4 o' clock slate this Sunday. Remember what last week 4 o' clock slate was. Let's look forward to this one. About to be gigantic to.

[F]

I just remembered when I was sitting at Hammer downtown yesterday, I had a hypothetical for you guys if you could pop that slate back up. So we're talking about Rams and Seahawks. Now there's another huge NFC game and that's Eagles and Lions. If I, if I, I gave you Seahawks, Rams or Eagles? Lions. Which game would you take? You, you would want the team to win the Super Bowl. Do you think Lions winner comes from that game or winner comes from the Rams and Seahawks? Let's not even say Super Bowl. Let's say wins the nfc.

[B]

I'll go Seahawks.

[A]

Rams.

[C]

Me too.

[E]

Okay.

[C]

I think the Rams might be the best team or the Seahawks might be the best team in the NFL right now and the Rams might be the second best.

[A]

And I don't think they're getting anywhere near where they're headed. No, I think Seahawks are only getting better. It's like the Colts, like the Colts are, are so new, everybody. A lot of new pieces. We're only going to get better. That's why I think we're so pumped. Seahawks, same exact thing. I mean this is Sam's first year up there. He signed a big deal to be their quarterback. That's only going to get better. We assume going forward in McDonald's defense, we just, that's going to be good.

[B]

Unbelievable.

[A]

Like we, we just say that's Seahawks. Very much up and to the right.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And to your point, they're already up here.

[C]

Right.

[A]

And then the other game's got to be going crazy.

[F]

You got the super bowl, defending champion and the Lions who. That ceiling is incredible. That's a good, good slate for the answer.

[A]

We'll answer that question tomorrow. Let's go back to college football. We have another update from Heather Dinage. Arkansas athletic director Hunter Jureczyk has been nominated to be the chair of the College Football Playoff committee. So he's already on the committee. He is being nominated to be the chair of it. And then Utah AD Mark Harlan nominated to replace Mack Rhodes who stepped down. So we got a little two chair swing here happening at this point. Arkansas Hunter Yuricheck is being considered for the CFP committee chair. He is currently on the committee. The CFP Management committee has to approve it before it's official. So the committee within the committee has to approve that. The committee now has a new chair who was already a part of one of the committees. Okay. Now this particular committee has an open spot. They're bringing in Utah Mark Harmon and the committee and the committee in the committee have to agree to Mark Harlan coming back to join their bigger committee, but probably not in the selection of the selection committee.

[C]

Right. And Heather mentioned that it's possible that Mack Rhodes would come back based on this new information. Do you think we can assume that he's done and they're just filling this spot now and that will be the new person for the next three years?

[A]

I don't know. They had to put somebody a chair. Right. So he had to be the chair. So I assume that's a decision they had to make. I think the Macroads thing, like what we learned from Outkick and then what ESPN sources are getting very different stories.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So maybe there's multiple things going on or maybe we don't know what's going on. Yeah. So like, who knows what happens with Mack Rhodes? Because if it is a full investment investigation and it ends up being quick, I assume he's not coming back this season. Correct. But like it's three year term. Does he come back next year? And would it be that big a fanfare or a conversation? Probably not.

[C]

Yeah, sure.

[A]

And that's probably what Mark Harmon, Utah AD is coming in with the understanding, if I had to guess. Now, granted, if that investigation ends up being something for real, there's no way he'll be a part of the 12.

[B]

Yeah. No way. Do you think because of a situation like this, and I hate that I'm going to say it, but is it time to combine the College Football Playoff with the BCS model and possibly have not just humans deciding exactly what the playoffs should be, but maybe bringing in an AI, maybe bringing in a computer to assist because then you don't have to deal with all this mumbo.

[A]

What's the AI going to do?

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

You think the AI knows both?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I don't think. I don't know that time's coming. Not today.

[B]

Combine the two humans and there.

[A]

Yeah, well, then it's always the human making decision with more information. Everybody else and Nick just said what you said is the bcs. So you got it right. I want these humans. Just get it right.

[C]

Let's get it right.

[B]

Let's get it right.

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Football.

[A]

He is the greatest tonight week 11 of the NFL season kicks off in the AFC east as the Patriots host the New York jets on Amazon Prime. That game will kick off at 8:15. The pre show, I believe, begins at 7. It's a great show. They do a very, very good job. The show is phenomenal. The evening will be spectacular and we'll be seeing if the New England Patriots are who we potentially think they are. Oh yeah, which is an absolutely dominant force. The quarterback for the New England Patriots, Drake May the odds on favorite to win the mvp. They got superstars all over the place. Mike Vrabel is doing his thing, which we all understand is winning football. Remember he took the Tennessee Titans, where I think they had like 119 different guys on the roster, the most amount of IR people to be the number one seed in the AFC. He has an ability to lead a group of men on a football field maybe better than anybody ever. When it's all said and done, we have no idea what's about to happen here with the New England Patriots and Mike Vrabel for the next 20 years, actually. And if you look at what happened to the Tennessee Titans, as soon as he leaves the building and then you look at what happened to the Patriots building, once he enters the building, you think to yourself, wow, this Ohio fuck might be good at leading men in football. It's fun to watch. It's a physical style of football. Everybody's bought in. In New England, people once again have the ability to be incredibly arrogant about the their football team. On that note, let's go to the talks to table at Boss Conor and at Ty Schmidt. Do you feel, though, something from Con man today feels like he's more confident and more happy and more energized about this particular primetime game than maybe in years past when the Patriots were going to be watched by a lot of people?

[C]

Yeah, I think so. But he's justified. I mean, I, I would not have wanted to hear him coming in and be like, oh, I don't know, I'm worried about this one. Maybe we're going to, you know, win 2117, but no, no, we're going to win 42. Nothing. We're going to beat the out of these guys because that's what good teams do. And I think, like, for. It was kind of a trendy pick in the preseason, you know, before the season started. Hey, the Patriots are probably going to go to the playoffs. Like, you look at their schedule, it's pretty favorable. But for guys like Vrael and Harbaugh, like the, the regular, like, hey, come in, take a while to build your culture. It doesn't apply. Vrabel is a winner. Got like, Harbaugh is a winner. I think you could just know. And obviously Drake May has taken a huge leap, but it was very easy to see once he got here, like, this guy's going to turn them around and he's going to do it very quickly.

[A]

Connor, even when they were losing, every single game that they were losing, he'd say, Drake May's a guy. Drake May is a guy. Yeah, we lost, but Drake May's a guy. Right now, it's all about Drake May surviving until next season. It's basically what you were saying last year about him. Has he gotten much better from last year? Has this kind of been who Drake May has been?

[B]

Much better. I mean, without a doubt. And that's why a lot of the times on Monday, I, I like to talk about how good McDaniels is, because without Josh McDaniels we. I mean, I've seen it firsthand with Mac Jones. As soon as that really good offensive coach leaves, that quarterback has a massive drop off. And it's the reverse situation here where the right coach comes in and it just completely catapults the team, the quarterback, everybody, the city, the region, the revolution region into a different stratosphere. Like, that is why it's so special. And that's the same to what Ty said. That's why I keep came in here feeling this way, because there isn't that lack of confidence in the team. Everything they say about, you know, whether it's after the game, about the win, amazing. Everything they say about the game that is coming up the next week is perfect. There really isn't too many flaws right now. And to Ty's point about the favorable schedule, it's like, yeah, great, we did have a favorable schedule. I didn't know if we were going to beat the Bills at Buffalo. I didn't know if we're going to beat Tampa at Tampa, but now we did. Now we're 8 and 2. And then when you're talking about the game, game tonight, it's like, oh, who's the keeper of the light? Oh, is it, is it Larry Guy? No, it's Rob Gronkowski. With Gronk back for good luck Jets. Gronk resigning for a day in retiring a New England Patriot. I don't know if he knows how much that means people in New England, but for like, for me, that was huge. Like, I love you, Gronk. That, that is so cool. You know, Julian Edelman did the entire Foxborough forever. He never left, but he did that once he was done. And that, you know, that, that means a lot to people who are fans of the team. And for Gronk, he ended up going to Tampa with Brady to win another Super Bowl. You can't fault him for that. But for him to do this kind of just strictly for no reason, aside from like, hey, New England just means more to me. New England is where I was kind of birthed as Gronk, the Gronk Spike. He wasn't a top 10 pick, he wasn't a first round pick. He became Gronk with Brady, of course, and that's why he went to Tampa, justifiably. And then him coming back just means a lot. Him lighting the lamp tonight, keeper of the light. I mean, again, 42, nothing that, that's what it should be tonight and that's what I expect it to be.

[A]

I mean, multiple times Gronke has said that he loves that area. I mean, they're going to trade him to another place. He said, I'll just retire. Yeah, I'm not going to do it. And Tom had to talk him into going to Tampa. So him getting a chance to celebrate his time in New England, I thought was really cool.

[B]

Sweet.

[A]

And I think that is a great thing. Kraft also saying, ah, maybe two day contract. Maybe we get you on Thursday night. Drake May, Rob Gronkow, Rob Gronkowski. That would be a great little pairing there to watch. And another thing about Gronk, just because I don't think he got a lot of national attention, a lot of people don't know. Obviously he's western New York, Buffalo guy. His final year of high school, he went to Woody High, which is in Pittsburgh. Woodland Hills, Double U, double O, D, Y, Woody High, great football team. That's where he graduated high school from. That's where Taylor's from. Jason Taylor's from. Many other greats have been through. You're talking about your mother. Yeah. Sally McAfee went through those hallways. And that's Stevie Breaston, obviously a dog. What in the Wolverina, where they play at is like folklore in Pittsburgh. Like, he went there to play. He donated this past off season, I think like 200,000. Then he got another company to match that 400,000 back to the school, which they certainly are very appreciative of that at Woody High. So it's like this dude is. He's certainly always Gronk. And as somebody who is very much me most of the time, there are certainly people that don't like the way I operate literally every portion of my life. I'm assuming there's people that don't like Gronk and certainly we've seen it and seen it on the Internet and everything like that. Gronk is just seemingly always the same guy. And you can tell his empathy with the things he chooses to do and what he doesn't choose to do. I'm a big fan of Gronk, Rob Gronkowski. And when you talk about football, that guy's in the pantheon of best players of all time. Unguardable. Like actually unguardable. And he never changed. Like, he never. He was never, like too good for anything. They said he always worked his ass off. They talk about his football feel and his football IQ as if it's at a level that nobody else has ever had. He was one of the only. He was the youngest guy on the NFL, 100 year, top hundred players, team just had a big ass jacket on her. You know, Tony, I think it's like Rob Gronkowski, special player, special person. The NFL was lucky to have him. I'm happy what happened with New England was happening as well.

[B]

Me too. And just to echo your sentiment about Woody High, I believe he also did the same thing for Boston College High School, BC High, which has produced very, very high Division 1 players. So he did that entire weight room thing. And to your point about the pantheon, like, I'm so glad that he retired a Patriots so that now I can come on here and say, without a doubt, I love Kelsey. I get it. Rob Gronkowski is the greatest tight end in the history of football. No question. Yeah. Like with, without you, you really can't even argue it when you truly look at football.

[A]

Tony Gonzalez, they played longer. So, so the thing is, people all played longer, right? Like, that's kind of the, in durability and duration of your career. Certainly a big deal. Everybody talks about Barry Sanders retiring early, still making the hall of Fame. Calvin Johnson as well, still had a lot of years left, still made hall of Fame. Those are special outliers. Normally, whenever they're talking, talking about the greatest long, long careers is what everybody talks about. Gronk, with how big, athletic, strong, everything that he was, had some back stuff coming into the league, played a lot of football, dominated a lot of football, and then kind of goes out on his own terms. That's the only thing you can really hold against Gronk, whatever you're in that conversation, is that he didn't play as long as everybody else.

[C]

Yeah, absolutely. Because when he, I mean, you, you could not stop him. You just couldn't. Like when he was in his prime, he was literally unseen, unstoppable. And that is the, I mean that, that is a big part of it, durability and all that kind of stuff. But he, he played the way he played and that was so great. Like, it was kind of inevitable. And like they, they changed the rule, didn't they? For, because of like ways that he was getting hit, going across the middle, going low. And you know, I think he, like that kind of started maybe some of the knee or ankle problems.

[A]

Tackle out there.

[C]

Exactly. And he, and he was running up 4, 5, 4 6, like, and he could block. That's the big part. I think that people who remember him and watch him obviously remember that. But a lot of the highlights we see now are just this type of stuff where it's the run after the catch and him Be on being untackleable. But he. He was a de facto, like, left or right tackle if they needed him to be, and he was one of the best in the NFL.

[B]

And that's why it's sweet, like, watching guys like Tucker Kraft, because that is who he reminds you of. And now Tyler Warren, like, you're seeing all these fullbacks that coming out about Tyler Warren as well. And just my favorite Gronk story is Gronk, when he was doing the draft process, Bill o' Brien was running him through the process. Bill draws a play on the whiteboard, erases it, says, hey, Rob, you know, redraw the play. Tell me what you're supposed to do. And Rob just says, like, I don't know what to do. And Bill o' Brien says, like, well, how are we supposed to. How are we supposed to draft you if you don't even know what play or what you're supposed to do on that play that I just. Just showed you? And he said, I don't know, Bill. Just throw me the fucking ball and I'll make stuff. I'll make shit happen. And that is just the definition of Rob Garankowski.

[A]

Didn't he say the meeting went terrible? Rob said it went either very good or very terrible.

[B]

Yeah, and that one was with Bill o', Brien, the one with Bill Belichick. They bring them in there and they kind of take them through like a. They take everybody through like a psychological almost, you know, day. And they just left Rob Gronkowski in a room. You know, you leave the guys who are visiting in a room for an hour, two hours, just see what they do. And Gronk just fell asleep. He's the only player to ever just fall asleep in a room. And then Belichick still was like, yeah, this guy. I mean, we have to get.

[A]

What was that? Goldman Sachs. Allegedly, when they have. They had a thing where every employee that became there became a millionaire, I think because of how much money they had. Yeah. And one of the things whenever you're first trying to get a job is they would tell you, like, the interview is happening at like, 6am or something, or 6:30am and they wouldn't meet with them until, like, 6pm yes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

It was like, all right, let's just see who will sit their ass in this thing. Thing for 36 hours or whatever the case is. And it's like, that's a hilarious thing. The Patriots were doing that. Not a bad play.

[C]

Not at all.

[A]

But also, I don't know if I want my Guy to like just sit there. Yeah. Like, what do I want him to do? I don't know what the right answer is. Sleeping. Probably the right answer. All right, I'm just going to go ahead and snooze here.

[C]

Maybe just like banging his head to the wall until you come back.

[F]

Working on pass it somebody.

[A]

Yeah. Is somebody taking that time to draw up place, you know, like, because you're being watched. Like, how do assholes act in that thing? I don't know what you maybe on your phone. I have no idea what you would do. Let's go to one half of the Hammer. Hammer.

[B]

Done.

[A]

Cowboys AP Tone. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us live from Anatican, Ohio, is college football national champion, super bowl champion Ryder cup winner, A.J.

[B]

Hogg.

[A]

Hawker. What would you do if you're left in a room for two hours on one of the visits there? I didn't even think of that being a thing.

[E]

Yeah, I think I would naturally fall asleep. That Gronka, I give him credit for really trusting his body, taking care of his temple. That's why I would tell the coaches, well, you know, coach recovery. I'm rest and recovery. You guys run around all these meetings all over the place. I'm still in college. I don't know, I mean, you probably have some hardos, like act like they're doing push ups or something. The coach walks in, he says, 226, 227, like acting. I mean, maybe guys have done that. I'm not really sure how to.

[D]

How to respond.

[A]

Hey, we were pumped to see Gronk retire as a New England patriot. Oddly, I was like, oddly pumped to watch it all kind of go down. Mostly because I enjoy watching Gronk get like flowers, you know, strictly because Tom Brady's talked about as the goat. Bill Belichick, obviously. And there's a lot of great players on that team. There's one guy that was there that just, you know, best of all time, potentially just football as a whole. And Rob Gronkowski and his natural energy about him is not like, whoa, look at me, let's have a celebration for me and everything. I want to have a good time. I want to have a good time, basically is Rob Gronkowski's mindset. His vibes in the locker room had to be. You're talking about maybe one of the greatest glue guys of all time. If his vibes are. Are always, let's have a good time. So them going out of their way to celebrate him. I enjoy that for Rob Gronkowski, if that makes sense. A.J. hawk.

[E]

No, I think they should. And he. Absolutely. He had great answers. And they talked about building him a statue. Whatever he said, put me a small one in the end, in the back of the end zone. Because Tom's the only one that deserves a statue. Yeah, he is. I mean, when you run those highlights, you almost. We forget, like, what. How dominant this dude was. You can argue whether he's the greatest of all time. Whatever. I don't know if anyone's ever had as big an impact when he was in the game as Rob Gronkowski does as a tight end.

[B]

Yeah, that. That might be kicker. Because the argument of greatest of all time, it's. You're never going to get to an answer. But now that I'm thinking about it is more Shaquille o'. Neal. Like, he is the most dominant player at Titans. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. The catch was absurd. Then the after the catch was insane. And then, oh, yeah, he has the feet of a shorebird somehow. He's the size of a Clydesdale and his stiff arm is lethal. And I saw him. I saw him just take people to the stands.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Literally against us. Took a guy to the stand just because he pissed him off a year prior.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So he.

[A]

He has a spite, too, which is obviously incredible. Yeah. Great player. Joining us now is a man who probably has an opinion or two about Rob Gronkowski and this new New England Patriots team that feels a lot like the old New England Patriots team. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, super bowl champion, our Coach, Coach Mike McCarthy. Coach.

[D]

Good afternoon, man. Doing great. How you doing today, Pat?

[A]

I like what you. What's going on there? What do you got behind. Is that me? I think I see me. Is that me up there?

[D]

You're going back to the burg? Yes. I thought we'd get. Let's jump right into this thing here. We got.

[E]

Get right in here.

[D]

I'll make it a little bigger for you. Oh, I hit the wrong button.

[A]

It's all right.

[D]

You see that thing?

[A]

Yeah, I see that thing. Is that me? I see Primanes there. I see.

[D]

Yeah. Every time I get on the show call and Ty, all you guys are always talking about odds and everything. So I was just trying to fit in, and I thought, well, what the hell could I come up with? And I thought, well, what are the odds that Pat's going to be at Primanes after midnight? So we put that out there, and you're two to one favorite. They're getting ready to take off.

[B]

And.

[D]

I just thought we would recognize you and going back to Pittsburgh because I know how fired up you got to be. And you definitely got to hit permanes when you get back to the burger.

[A]

Yeah, I certainly will. Especially down there in the Strip. Whenever Nick got married, we stayed in the Strip. We did a couple laps around there for. For nostalgia days. Yeah, we used to be roaming those particular alleys there at certain times of the night. You know, there was certain situations, but it always felt as if you got Primi sandwich. They got great pizza as well. Nobody ever talks about their pizza. Their pizza is phenomenal. It's an Italian thing. It's in Pittsburgh. The pizza is going to be great. But you have that 2:33am coach. It was funny how you all of a sudden just came back to life and felt amazing and went to bed. You know, it was kind of like a nightcap there at Permani's. And I appreciate the fact that you understand, understand that city. You went back a couple years or a couple weeks ago. Was that your first time back? Long time. Because it felt like you got a little bit of a parade there as well.

[D]

No, no, I try to get back here about every six, six, seven weeks now, you know. You know, in my off year for sure. For sure. But yeah, definitely. I mean, Permani's for me was, you know, decades, many decades ago. And, and really the history of the place, my understanding it really opened up because of the, you know, trucking industry down there at the Strip district and the producer yards back, you know, back in the day, and then became a spot for after hours eating. And then, you know, obviously they've done a phenomenal job since then with their expansion, but a lot of great memories down there at the Strip.

[A]

Well, everything's on the sandwich because we don't have a lot of time. Okay. We don't have time to eat the side alongside a sandwich. Allegedly, it was all placed onto the sandwich. The french fries, coleslaw, everything on top of the sandwich. So it was just one quick meal as opposed to everything on the outside, which I think is great. In indicative for what Pittsburgh is. Hard working time. Hey, hard working down football town. I think this weekend's gonna be epic. And yeah, thank you for giving me a little love there. I think that's a fatter version of me. I think that's a fatter version. Yeah, yeah, Coach, I think, I think.

[D]

No, you know, obviously we. We blew. We blew it up because we wanted to make sure we highlighted. Yeah, that's. That's not. That's not the scale.

[A]

Okay. I Appreciate you doing that. All right, let's talk some ball, shall we? Tonight, AFC east jets taking on the Patriots. We just got done talking about the glory days of the Patriots with Rob Gronkowski. What are your thoughts? Whenever I say his name and obviously he was the youngest player on the top hundred team for the 100 year NFL anniversary. What do you think it says about Rob and what are your thoughts on him as a player?

[D]

I mean, dominant player has. I mean, you've already stated, but when I think of Rob Gronkowski on. Let's just go back to Pittsburgh. I remember first time I heard about Rob when he was at Woodland Hills High School coming out and I think he went out there to University of Arizona. So I think he, and I know my time and in the NFL is by far the most dominant and pure Y tight end. I mean, to play the way he played on the line of scrimmage and you know, and just, you know, New England, their heyday with the 12 personnel, he was just always such a force and just the connection that him and Tom Brady had was, you know, was, was probably as good as a ever played. Played the game as far as tight end and quarterback connection. And you know, you watch, you watch these guys go through their career, obviously a great player in New England, but, you know, there's a play that stands out to me. I was coaching the Cowboys and we were playing Tampa down there in Tampa and you know, and there's a play down by the red zone where, you know, Tom just came right back, I think on his third step and just fricking ripped it. And we, you know, we practice it all week and in the timing and precision of, you know, him throwing to Gronk, you know, the timing, timing of it, because, you know, his catching radius and AJ could probably could attest to defending. This is just, it's ridiculous. You know, so he's just a guy that was always open and just. And that's the connection that they had. But. And I really like the point that you made, you know, because it doesn't go, you know, it doesn't get talked about enough. He was a dominant run blocker. I mean, he was a dominant player at the line of scrimmage. And you know, you see the highlights of him catching touchdowns, running people over. But, you know, he did, he did it, he did it on first, second, third down, all the way through was the final red zone threat.

[A]

I don't like that. He's a keeper of the light tonight. If I'm the New York jets let's talk about the game. It feels like Drake, May and Mike Vrabo are going to be special for the next 20 years. Josh McDaniels has come out and said, I, I like being with Drake. My family likes being here, head coach and things. Sweet. But I'm in a good spot here. Drake's 23 years old. This could literally go on for two more decades if they play their cards right, which we assume they will. What are your thoughts on this current New England Patriots team, and does it remind you of the last Patriots team or kind of. How do you view this particular squad?

[D]

Oh, yeah, definitely. I don't think you can, you know, the similar similarities are definitely just jump out at you for sure. You know, to be sitting there at 8, 8, 2, super impressive. You know, I think, you know, giving credit to, you know, Mike Rabel and also the personnel department there. You know, they got young guys that are playing, you know, right now and playing at a high level, so. And I think that's even more exciting to me as I was watch them because, you know, they're eight and two, but there's definitely a lot of growth. I mean, you start with the offensive line because the line is always, when I'm looking at this type of, you know, a matchup, you start with the, you know, with the offensive defensive lines. And I think both the jets and the Patriots, you know, have committed resources to the, to their lines and definitely will benefit from it moving forward. But Drake's playing at a, you know, a high level. But there's, you know, there's definitely still things that he's only going to get better at. And I think, I think, in fact that, you know, the point you made about Josh being there, you know, if you can keep the quarterback in the same system. I just know personally from working, you know, watching Joe Montana go through, you know, his whole career in the same system. Brett Favre, Rodgers, and it was really a decision we made, Dallas, to keep Dak in the same type of system and so forth, so that that continuity for him will pay huge dividends. And they're off to a great start. Really love what they're doing on off offense. And I think clearly defense is the strength of the football team. And, you know, and I like the way Mike's built this thing because when you look at the way they play, the way they're built, when you're, you know, you're. When you're top five, top 10 right out of the gate in year one and both, you know, both running in Football and stopping to run. You know, that plays well for, you know, for playoff football and it puts you in that championship, you know, formula of how you want to play, especially up there in the England. So really like everything I've seen the last couple days on these guys and definitely there's, you know, there's room for improvement. I mean you look at some of their negative plays ball on the ground and so forth. But when you, when you play the Patriots, you know, over these last decades, you know they're going to fundamentally sound, always good tackling team, very matchup conscious. I think Josh does a great job schematically, you know, week to week challenge it challenging you. And I think for young corporations quarterback, you know, you're always able to give him key throws early in games. You see some of them big play action, those big play action games that they're hitting early. I think that's a real tribute to the way they approach the game. And it definitely helps them get going because they play out, they can they get out in front. That defense is real.

[A]

Yeah, defense is real. Let's talk about Vrabel and we just assume that his defense is going to be good with Mike Vrabel. How do other coaches view Mike Vrabel? Because obviously he gets fired from Tennessee out of nowhere. We're all kind of taken back. He goes to Cleveland on a year as like a consultant. That's where he's from. And then the New England Patriots job opens up and every New England Patriot fan was like, yup. And it sounds like Vrabel was like yup. Because whenever he went into the hall of Fame up there, he said, there's nothing like this place. It is special. You need to know that. Feels like he's back at home in the right spot. How do you guys view him as a coach? That's a good football coach, right? That's just kind of how everybody views him. Is that you guys talk about him in the coaching world?

[D]

Definitely I might. I'm just how I view him. I think he's an excellent coach and things I've always looked for, whether you're competing against another coach as a coordinator, as a head coach, the consistency, you know, he definitely has been consistent in the playstyle that he demands from his football team. Both in Tennessee and New England. You know, it starts in a run game. You know, we all want to run the ball good. We all want to stop the run. And he's done that in both places. So I, I think the way, you know, the identity and how the Team's built. You know, the personnel is definitely reflecting that. So, you know, the personnel department and coaching staff are clearly on the, on the same page. But I think he's, and he's definitely playing to the climate of the Northeast and all. I think all those things are important. You look at Drake May, you know, he is built for New England football. It's, you know, something we always talked about a lot and it's something I truly believe in. You know, when you have Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers, you know, Longhorns, big hand hands you're getting, you want your guy to be spinning it better than the other guy come December, in January, in those big games.

[A]

Yeah, and Drake can run his ass off too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

He led UNC Tar Heels in rushing and passing. Obviously. I think his sophomore year, whenever he was there, he didn't win the Heisman, but, you know, that's because UNC was won six games. Yeah. But he, he's been special a long time. And then obviously on the other side. Go ahead, A.J.

[E]

Yeah, coach. What about their opponent tonight? They're playing the Jets. Jets. And we got guys like Boston, Connor saying that the Patriots are going to win 42 to nothing. I think he actually believes it. Like he's saying that will happen tonight, I guess. What's your outlook on the jets this year? And obviously moving forward, they traded some, some very, very key pieces away at the deadline. But what's, I guess the rest of this season look like for the jets, you think?

[D]

Well, I think, you know, number one, the jets are in year one, you know, and I know also New England is too. But I think the jets, jets have more going on. But I start with their offensive line. I do like the way their, their young guys are playing and I think it's going to be, you know, a good line moving forward, especially start with those two bookend tackles. So, you know, sort of trying to do it the right way. Breeze halls, I think he's a dynamic runner, so they definitely have something to build off of too. So, you know, they, you know, I'm not sure if you guys, I don't know who's going to play quarterback tonight. So you have that going on. I think it's a team that's, that's learning how to win. You know, they've won their last two games and, and obviously the return game was huge last week for them in getting that victory. So I just see a team that's, that's still going through some, you know, mechanics and things like you'd like to maybe experience more in the beginning, the beginning of the year. You know, obviously they lost, you know, Quentin Williams at the trade deadline. So that's, you know, that's definitely a force in a middle of your defense. So just, they get. They have a lot of cool going on. You know, I, I made. I made the mistake of talking to corner, excuse me, Connor, this morning. And so, you know, I'm. I'm feeling the pressure to, to pick. To pick New England with the points. I do like New England, but, you know, I want to say we say it every week, division games. That's a lot of points.

[B]

Don't screw this up.

[D]

All right, all right. I'm gonna take the point points with the Patriots.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Okay. Okay. Now if you were to be picking Thursday night football games and Obviously we missed one, you'd be six and three. This guy's good. 75 hit rate is not a bad thing. That's a beautiful thing. And coach likes the Patriots and the points, but he was accosted this morning by Connor on a phone call. Is that how you would describe it there, Coach? I would. I was there. Brutal.

[D]

Yeah, just brutal. I was checking in, make sure we're good to go.

[B]

Go.

[D]

And I mean, you talked about the Patriots. I think probably 90% of the conversation.

[B]

Yeah. And I made some.

[D]

I want to talk about Pack 1 of Pittsburgh. I mean, all I heard about was the Patriots.

[A]

Well, listen, that's been talked about too much. You know, that's been talked about too much. The Patriots tonight kicking off week 11. I think it's a prime time opportunity for this new Patriots team to say hello too. Like, that's how I'm viewing this, like, legitimately. I think a lot of. We know it more, I think, personally, because. Because we got Connor. Like, I think we as a show potentially have talked about it a little bit more nationally. I don't think everybody fully understands. I think they see the record and they're like, wow, that's a good football team. Then you watch them, it's like you see Drake, it's like, I can't believe this is his second year and he's 23 years old. And then Vrabel's coaching in between plays, like, literally in between plays. He's coaching a very young team. It's like they seemingly have a lot of upsides and still. And they are a great football team.

[B]

Well, and that's why I like the kind of showing everybody everything will be great is because Drake may is the one that does steal all the headlines. Naturally. He's the quarterback. But like when you watch the defense play, they punish people. I'm not kidding. Everybody needs to watch Boss Blaine tonight. You need to watch number 14 on defense. He tackles so hard. It is the greatest thing every time watching the Patriots. And the greatest thing is watching Drake, man. Let me, let me say that, okay? Aside from Drake, may watching Bob spilling fly around that football field with an all black visor with his sleeves and just screaming through holes is, is. And not to mention when, when Milton Williams gets in the backfield and makes a play, Christian Barmore celebrating before the tackle's made. When Christian Barmore gets in the backfield, makes a play, Milton Williams is already celebrating. It's just, it's one of the most fun brands of football. If, if there was a bet out there for the New York Football jets to finish with total negative yards, I would take it because of how great this defense is.

[A]

Listen to what he's saying, coach. 40.

[D]

Oh, my God. This is unbelievable.

[A]

I know. People are watching. Football gods are watching this right now. And there's a chance that all of it happens from the New England Patriots. All right, let's talk about some different stuff happening around the end.

[D]

Wait a minute. I want to, I want to change my bet that marketing campaigns make me nervous. I mean, go ahead still. Just go ahead. Football game.

[B]

Yeah, you're right.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Take the.

[D]

I'm going to be a good teammate here, Conor. But it's still, it's one game. It's on a short week. It's a division game. That's a, that's a lot of points.

[C]

Points.

[D]

Division game. Yeah. So. And I do, I like everything that's been said about New England, but it's, it's still pro football and I think we all get caught up in, you know, the feel good stuff and all the good stories and so forth, but it's, it's, it's the ultimate team game. It's still 11.

[A]

11.

[D]

It's so damn hard to win a football game in the National Football League. That will never change.

[A]

I don't believe it. I'm told they should win by 12 and a half points, coach. That's what I'm being told.

[D]

Yeah. No, I'm. No, I picked it. I picked it.

[B]

Don't, don't back down, coach.

[D]

You went, you went by two touchdowns. You went by two scores in this league. That's. You've had a hell of a day. You've had some things go. Go your way too, so. But it is, it's difficult to win in this league.

[A]

Okay. Difficult to win this league. You have done a good job of winning when picking Thursday night games, if you were to be picking Thursday night games. So we're certainly excited about that. But to your point, New York jets are a professional football team. There's 11 guys.

[D]

They got good players. Yeah, they have some good young players.

[A]

These guys, best football players you've ever met in your entire life are lined up on the New York Jets. Your friend that you know from high school that was really good at football and then he played in college, really good at football. Yeah. These guys, all of them 10 times better than your friend that you saw at football playing for the New York jets tonight. Okay? So if they're able to piece everything together, they can beat anybody. And that's probably the messaging and the thought of what they can become over there with Aaron Glenn. But I just think tonight is a showcase night for the New England Patriots and who they're going to be for the next 20 years, maybe, which is.

[B]

Gives me chills, man. I mean, I'm legit.

[A]

Yeah, but what do we do? What did we do? I was in Pittsburgh growing up, watching this shit. Then I come play for the Colts in this. Still here in the Colts. And it was just always been seemingly.

[B]

But you. You have also greatness on the horizon. Let's not act like the colts aren't the 1 seed and Danny Dimes is not 28 and Jonathan Taylor is not 26 and Quentin Nelson is also not in his 30s. Or wait, he might be 30. Actually, whatever. You get it. The. The Colts are also in a prime position, if anything, and I hate to do this to the guy, but we need to kind of direct our attention at how shitty the Steelers are looking down the barrel.

[A]

Whoa, whoa, whoa. They got a lot of ideas.

[F]

Oh, I can't.

[A]

AP Tone has a question before you actually kill. I don't know why I did that, coach. I don't know why Game day's going to Pittsburgh.

[E]

I don't know what we doing.

[B]

It's because we're back, baby. That's it. All right. I just spent time in Echo Company. Okay. And their nickname's Evil Empire. What's New England called back in the day? The Evil Empire. If you need a sign as whether they're back or not, that's it. And also great. I know. I know that. And Broncos and Patriots, like, we are looking at the old school kind of times in the afc, and I don't think the Steelers are going anywhere. Just want to clarify that. I just Want to shit talk Tony, for a second there? But there are a lot of good teams. But there is no, there's legitimately no team primed for the next 20 years better than New England. I only say 20 years because Andy Reid's 70. He might coach till he's 95 and.

[A]

Patrick Mahomes might play till he's 50.

[B]

Exactly. So then I might eat poop. But right, right now I can say that with confidence.

[A]

Okay, let's move off of the New England Patriots and New York jets tonight. A lot has been said and obviously it's all great analysis and it needs to be said, especially in sports conversations. Let's talk about some other NFL storylines. Go ahead, Tone.

[C]

Yeah, Coach.

[F]

While we're talking about young and talented, we had some unfortunate injuries to young and talented rookies over this last week. Obviously Travis Hunter of the Jags with a knee injury, not a good situation there. And then Jackson Dart with a concussion with a the New York Giants. How would you handle those situations? There's been a lot of talk about it. One with Jackson Darton running the football and not getting down and taking a bunch of hits. And then Travis Hunter, you know, the whole story, the whole time has been, can he play both ways? What are your thoughts on those two situations?

[D]

Well, I think, you know, number one, they're two separate situations. But, you know, in the realm that we're talking about, I think, you know, risk assessment is something that you're thinking about all the time as a head coach. You know, how they're practicing, you know, the integration of, you know, going from a backup player to a full time player, you know, playing both sides of the ball, the reps, the wear and tear. I think GPS has been a tremendous tool that's been used. I know we started to use it, you know, back in 2010, 2011. So I think you just, you know, being smart in every player is a little different too. So I think you got to look at all those things because you're about talking about two young men that should have, you know, great careers in the National Football League. And, you know, injuries are a big part that can sit back, you know, especially a quarterback. You know, you look at the, you know, the number, you know, I saw Stab being viewed what, five, six times and never how many games he's played. That would be concerning for sure. So, I mean, you risk, assess and it happens to, you know, every quarterback. I mean, quarterback, you know, pay scale. When you start paying a quarterback, you know, 5 million to 60 million, you need to have A conversation. Those are things of. I don't think you don't run your quarterback, but I think you. You can be more selective when you run them, too. So I think that's a constant thought process that really probably doesn't. It's not talked about outside the walls of a coaching staff or outside the walls of a gm, head coach, owner, you know, relationship. But you have to. I mean, it's. The business side of it is real, but these young men are going to play a long time, and you don't want to see massive setbacks when they're just getting started. So I think you're. You're always looking at, you know, how you can integrate, how can, you know, how can you best utilize these guys and let them get going, too? Because the thing that I've always been amazed with, when you look at a young player, you know, he gets ready for his senior year or his last year in college. So all the training goes into leading up to his senior year. He has a great senior year. So obviously excited about the opportunity, potentially going to the NFL. Then he's got to go train for the draft bowl game.

[A]

Yeah, I'm sorry, Senior bowl also, whatever.

[D]

That whole gauntlet. That whole gauntlet. And then. And then, boom, he gets. He gets drafted and selected. So then he goes into, you know, an NFL situation, and now the training's different and so forth. I mean, it's clearly the longest year and a half. Half of their life and the toll that it takes, you know, both physically, you know, mentally and emotionally. I mean, you get. You have to factor those things in. I. I think that I've always looked for the jump that players would make from year one to year two. A lot of it's just naturally, because year one is so damn hard, transitioning from college to pro football. So, you know, all those things are elements you get. You got to be in tune with, which everybody is. I'm not saying they're not, but it's. It's. It's a grind. And when you got promising young, young players, the risk assessment is very important.

[A]

I mean, just to echo your sentiment even more, because I've talked about this a lot, because the rookie wall is a thing that is real, that happens about right now in a season, because there's no light at the end of the tunnel. And we're really far into this thing. You talk about the last year of college. They started spring ball there, we started spring ball, let alone the winter workouts that are the worst part of it all in college. But let's just say spring workouts there, Then you got summer leading in a training camp, those workouts are impossible. Then you have training camp, full training camp, then you have full season, then you have one of those bowl games, then you have to work out for your pro day. Okay, so then after your pro day, then you got combine happening in there. Then for the workouts, you got to travel around, go meet everybody, hopefully still work out. Then draft happens, then you got rookie minicamp, then you got spring camp or whatever. Then you got summer for a couple weeks, and then you got training camp. Then you have your longest season of your life where there's. You've never played. Play this many games. You got 17 games and oh, yeah, you're a rookie, So a lot of all the preseason games, too, you're playing in those as well. Three games there, then 17 there. And then if your team's good, okay, we got another potential four at the end of that. So it's like that rookie year. To your point, if you survive it, I think that off season, the next one, you can really jump mentally, I think, because you're fresh, but also body gets a new feeling. It's the fact that you're thinking about that as a coach. I love to hear that legitimately. I. I love to hear that because everybody has to go through it. But it does suck for everybody, I think.

[D]

Yeah, definitely. And frankly, then once they get through all that, if. I mean, if you just look at the situations that occur, you know, in February, March and April after, if you look at the rookies that go through that year, you know, some of those guys, you know, may get in a little trouble, maybe go, you know, go go to a party or two too much, maybe hang out at Primande's too long, but. Well, I mean, they should. I mean, you know, after the damn year they've been through. So. No, it's a. It's a cycle. You know, there's a lot of data there that you got to pay attention to it. And so when you. When you see young guys getting hurt, you know, it's just, you know, it's. It's. I know. It's just something you're always thinking about because, you know, head coach, to me, that the 32 head coaches in the league that, you know, they get to compete on Sundays. But I always felt the biggest competition is, you know, how do you train your team, you know, how do you schedule your team? You know, are you having those conversations, you know, and disband, being in tune with. With each Guy and risk assessment of how you utilize them is, is definitely part of those conversations.

[A]

Yeah, you know, you got some pretty deep stuff coming out of that Yinzer mouth and it is wonderful to hear. We certainly appreciate it. How many years coaching in the NFL were you?

[D]

1993. So. But 19 and not in this year. So 32. 32, 33. Whatever it takes. Little Michael Keaton for you.

[A]

Hands are legging. Let's talk about a couple more teams. Ty has a question for you.

[C]

Yeah, Coach, I believe you were at Lambeau for Monday Night Football. And I think going into that game a lot of people kind of assumed that there was a good chance it was going to be a defensive battle. Obviously we saw how the game ended. Looking at both those teams as a whole, how do you feel about Philly? And then for the Packers, a lot of the chatter has been, been, hey, like this team needs to fix the offense and they need to do it right now because they're wasting a potential, you know, generational run from this defense. So how do you feel about both those teams? And if you were the head coach, how would you fix this packers offense?

[D]

Well, I think the biggest thing is, you know, I thought the game was kind of went the way we all anticipated. I mean, it was definitely a defensive struggle. You know, both defenses made both offenses struggle. And I'll say this about the Packers. You know, I've been able to see them play live now, you know, four times, three at Lambo and one over there in Pittsburgh. And they've been very, very impressed with them. I mean, their defense in all four contests, you know, very consistent. I mean their energy and the level that they play I think is really bodes well, especially with November, December football in front and you know, in offenses over the course of the year. I mean, this is the way these things go. And I, I thought the injury to Jenkins was definitely factored in the second half. I mean, when you lose your center, that's usually not an easy situation. Overcome. They do have really good depth in the offensive line, so I think they'll move ahead accordingly. But that was a hard fought football game. You could see early, I thought the referees really let him play. You can see it really on the first series. So I mean the in line, you know, combat, you know, that was going on was, was, you know, was, was, you know, I had, I have no problem with it, but I just thought they really let him play. And I think you saw two, you know, playoff team slugging out and you know, but at the end of the Day, it was a three point game.

[A]

You saying, I got no problem. They weren't calling a lot in there. They're playing football is what you just said. I got no problem with it. But on the that note, abnormal seemingly how loose it was in the trenches. Is that what you were just saying right there?

[D]

No, I just thought the post snap. No, that's. But that's, you know, that's really. I thought it had definitely some, you know, looked a little bit like a playoff game. You know, there's. There's some things obviously you're always trying to clean up, but, you know, I think you, you know, I felt Monday when I walked out of the stadium that I just sold two playoff teams. Slug it out, you know, and in Philadelphia made, you know, a couple more plays more than Green Bay. So, I mean, I thought the time of possession, you know, Philadelphia was able to hold the ball a little longer, but, you know, I thought I. Frankly, I just kept waiting for, you know, Green Bay to put that job together because, you know, Vic does a good job. Still waiting on it. And the two shout.

[A]

We're all still waiting is what Ty said. We're all still waiting for that drive to get put together. They almost had that field goal, though.

[C]

Yeah, very close.

[A]

It was. It was this close. Yeah, that's for the first one, I think.

[D]

Oh, you talking about the one he met? Oh, yeah, definitely. Yeah, definitely. And I'll say this, I don't know what the wind ended up being, but it looked like the wind kicked up there in the second half. So, you know, that's. And that always can be a factor.

[A]

How'd you feel about how that was all handled at the end of that game? How'd you feel about that? The 64 yarder. Oh, McManus, OG in the game. We can steal one. The refs aren't stopping us from snapping. Maybe catch a little extra swing, catch the second one as a mulligan if need be. They find out he's a little bit short. Great gamesmanship out of McManus and the crew here. He ends up going a little bit short. LaFleur says that was the best ball I've seen him hit in weeks. He was short. We need to get a couple more yards, send the offense back out there. Offense, obviously the Philadelphia Eagles defense, because we know. We just saw it too, dude. Yeah, we know what you're trying to do. You're not going to be able to throw this thing. Quick out. You'll only got five seconds to handle this whole thing. Then they Sent him back out. Massive miss. Packers fans say why did we stay awake for this?

[C]

Yeah, why.

[A]

Why did we stay awake for this? That's where packers fans are right now, Coach. I know you're probably surrounded by them up in Green Bay, but Packers fans, not the most optimistic. You know, it was three point game against super bowl champions. I think everybody thinks that Philadelphia Eagles are going to be back in the hunt whenever the season ends. 3 point loss to your point. But I don't think that's a Packers fans feel. I don't think that's how they feel at all. And what do you think that, do you think that's because fans naturally react to the last thing that they saw or do you think fans potentially see what maybe isn't on the team for whenever the games truly matter at the end of the year? What are your thoughts on that?

[D]

All I think it's a week to week, you know, thing that you're dealing with with fans and definitely, yeah, they're going to react to the outcome. But yeah, I think once again it was a three point game. There's definitely plays in the game that could have went the either way, you know, either way that could affected that game. So. And that's, and that's what playoff football is. I mean 96% of the playoff, playoff games I know the last five years have come down to the last series, so I like games like that. Now you want to win them. You know, it's, you know, I know Connor thinks his team's going to win by 40 tonight, but you really benefit tight games in November, December because that's what really gets, really gets you ready for playoff football. I know and AJ can attest to this. When we were really on, on a roll, I would get nervous with the blowout wins. They're fun. It's an easy ride home. You feel better in the morning. The guys are, everybody's in there by six o' clock working out and everything. But so there's so much great off the positive energy. But you need tight ball games because that's, that's the game you're going to be in come playoff time. If you want to win a championship, you know you do want, you do want the experience of those tight games. So there is value for the packers to, to come up and play that type of game. I really believe that and I do. I thought they were not as in sync in the second half with the injury and I could be wrong but you know, I think they had more first downs in Philadelphia. I know Philly was able to keep, you know, the ball the third downs and things like that. So you can cut. You can cut through that game as much as you want, and you could find one or two plays that could have changed the outcome of that game, clearly. I mean, the fumble, you know, took points off the board, green base, you know, fumble on with love. So, I mean, there's. And that's what those games come down to. So. But yeah, post snap now, they, they let them play. They definitely let them play. And, and I always hope that it's that way when you play in, in the postseason. So there's a lot of value to play in those kind of games.

[A]

Yeah, the Colts get a huge win this weekend in Germany over the Falcons. And I saw some people saying, like, it's the Falcons, it's the Falcons. Like, I don't care. Yeah, Falcons are played great. That was a huge win. That was a huge win for the Indianapolis Colts. We needed that after the Pittsburgh Steeler game. But you talk about those close games, it was like fun to watch his team scrap, fun to watch his team get into the overtime and make big plays whenever they needed. Like that ball right there from Danny Dimes. I don't mind, you know, watching a 9:30 game whenever your team's winning. Oh, that was a great morning.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

God, it set up a perfect NFL Sunday. I mean, just kind of. How are we doing? Great. We just.

[F]

Yeah, we're good.

[D]

We're done.

[A]

We won. Yeah.

[D]

But your point there, Pat, is they responded from the week before. So, I mean, those are the, those are the things that create a lot of value. And I think you always talk about stacking success and the confidence you're trying to build, you know, particularly November, December into the playoffs. That, that, that, that's a great win for Indianapolis because, yeah, they had a hard day, you know, in the last time they were on the field, and then they, then they respond. And I think the resilience and the response that you're going to have to have in just the four quarters of a playoff game, this is all training that, that pays forward, in my opinion.

[A]

That's right. I agree with, I can't agree with you more. Number one team in the afc. Now, you talked about value to your team as you go forward. Let's talk about the most valuable, shall we? Go ahead, con man.

[B]

Yeah, coach. And just to clarify, I don't care if we win three nothing or 30 nothing. I just want everybody to not get hurt. Kind of stay healthy and keep this truck train rolling Strictly just need to get that eight to a nine in the win column. But looking at the MVPs, there are some big names on here. Drake May we've talked about already, but Stafford, Jonathan Taylor, Mahomes and Allen still bringing it. Darnold up there. Jared Goff seems to be a little too low just looking at that list. But what do you think about the MVP odds? And we actually looked into something before the show too. Just about MVPs. The last MVP. MVP. Yeah, here it is. MVPs won the Super bowl since 2000. Patrick Mahomes is the only one. So it's not as if you win the mvp, you just automatically win the Super Bowl. But what do you think about the MVP list this year so far?

[D]

I like it if you don't know if you could put the list back up. But I thought Jared Goff was low and I think he's been low for the last three years. I think this guy's been playing at an incredible level and I think last year week's game against Washington speaks volume. So I mean because now you're going to give, you know, give him a 250 yard, you know, performance, you know, in a run game and add his plate to it. So I think he's playing an extremely high level, I think clearly. And he's. And he's done it now and you know, and I think we just kind of. I don't know if we're taking him for granted. I don't think he gets enough love and I definitely have him higher love Drake made. It's up there and it looks like you're in charge of the.

[E]

No.

[D]

No, I think it's cool that he's up there and speaks volumes kind of year he's having him. And I think it's already been said and there's definitely room for improvement with those guys too. So it is exciting for New England and Drake may. But I think Matthew Stafford and Jared Goff, clearly those guys with Drake have established themselves as a quarterback. But the guy I want to throw in and AJ could talk on Adrian Peterson. I mean, to see a running back up there is refreshing. Refreshing because when you have a season like Jonathan Taylor is having and, and I always go back when like Gronkowski. When's the first time you remember watching Robert Gronkowski play? I got the. I've been to two college football games the last 35 years and I went to the Iowa Wisconsin football game down there in Madison in 2019 and was excited to see him play. He was Having a Heisman type season and so forth. And you know, it was a tight. It was just how you think a Iowa, Wisconsin game would go is, you know, it was tough, you know, a lot of running and so forth. And I remember after the game and Taylor is like, man, what a consistent, tough, hard nosed runner. And he, I think he carried it about 30 times, but I would have never thought he went for 250 or 260 that day because he just so. My point is he's that good. I mean, when great players just kind of do they play it that level, you know, all the time. And I can't, I don't recall what year Jonathan's in. It would see what year. Five or six or seven now, but six, six. I mean, he's been playing when he's healthy. I mean, he is a dynamic player because I mean he just does it playing and play out and then he also can hit that home run. So I think he's definitely having an NBC. Kind of reminds me of Adrian Peterson when he was really rolling for the vikings.

[A]

It's his fifth season for Jonathan Taylor. I'm sorry. Go ahead, A.J.

[E]

No, sorry, coach. I wanted to reiterate.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

The, the Adrian Peterson situation. I, I was lucky, I guess, lucky enough to play against Adrian twice a year for, I don't know, seven, eight years in a row when I was in Green Bay. But it's true, like when, when a dude is rolling, like these guys are like, Adrian was forever. And like Jonathan Taylor has been like, I don't know you all week. You're preparing for it. You're preparing for it. And then if you go there, especially on the road and this dude, like, it just, it almost sometimes felt inevitable. Like, all right, we got to keep boxing them, keep boxing them in. And then when they break one, one or two of them, it's like, all right, the dude runs for 240 on you and you're screwed. And seems that these guys do it week after week and it's just so, so tough, I think for defenses to consistently stop guys that are this good.

[A]

It's a head game too, right? Huge head game, I assume. Yeah.

[E]

I mean, think of the things you'd run off of it, Coach. Like when you have a running back like that that's rolling, like how, how does that open up your offense?

[D]

It adds a second to your play action protection game. That's what it does. I mean, because you know that those safety scenes got to be at the line of scrimmage and you know, and you're really trying. You got to suck them up, don't you?

[A]

Suck them up good, Coach.

[D]

Suck.

[A]

Suck them up with that play action. That's what we're trying to do, coach. We're trying to suck them all up everywhere.

[D]

Y, right here.

[A]

Sucking them up right here. And then boom. Jonathan Taylor. Linebackers, where are you? Within two yards of line scrimmage. Well, Tyler Warren's right behind. Behind. You got the D. How you doing? Keep it moving. We are weaponizing it. Yeah, we got the D. Once you.

[B]

Suck them up, you got the D and it's blouses.

[A]

Yeah, we. You're 100% right. I didn't think about it. And we. That's what we're doing, and that's what Jonathan Taylor ads. And I'll tell you what. We. We're gonna have to pay him again. We. We don't need him with a hoodie on at the beginning of training camp.

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay. We need to pay this man his money and we need to continue to enjoy the journey. Jonathan Taylor ride. Now, you mentioned Jared Goff there about how much respect you have for him. A lot of people thought maybe the Lions would see a little bit of a regression on the offensive side because Ben Johnson, the bell of the ball, offensive genius, leaves Detroit and goes to Chicago. Tone has a question for you.

[F]

Yeah, I do, Coach. That's kind of been a talking point this week that Dan Campbell took over the play calling for offense coordinator John Morton. Obviously, you've been a play caller, head coach in the NFL for a long, long time. How do you feel about the. That situation as a whole when the head coach takes over the play calling for the offensive coordinator? And how does that work out?

[D]

I mean, obviously there's reasonings, you know, from within, within the staff that they talk through. And then when you have the result that you have, I mean, I mean, you can't argue with it, but I think, you know, you know, number one, it's, It's. It's never easy to change like that, particularly, you know, at that point in the season. You know, I've experienced it once myself, so, you know, that part's tough, but, you know, but also you can see the potential benefit on the other side of it because Washington not knowing that it was going to happen definitely, you know, helps helps Detroit in that particular instance. But, you know, Dan's an outstanding football coach. I love the way his teams play. Obviously saw something that he felt like he needed to do, got the results, and. But, you know, most importantly, that connection between play Call and quarterback is. Is for me is always the top of the list. And I think they clearly, they clearly have that because, you know, I thought they looked dominant in that game against Washington.

[A]

What did I watch Foxy where I saw Dane Campbell like drop a tear for Jared Goff. What was that? There was an interview where they talked to both of them and Jared Goff talked about what Dane Campbell meant to him and what Dan. Dan Campbell talked about what Jared Goff meant to him. Do you remember what I'm talking about? I don't remember what you're talking about, but I will say this year more so than ever, mcdc has given Jared Goff so much credit on what he does at the line of scrimmage with audibles and reading protections and all this things. Mcdc has made it a point pretty much every single game. He's given Jared Goff so much credit for how good he is getting the guys right at the line of scrimmage. I think it was quarterback on Netflix. Jared Goff was being followed and they had a sit down with Dan Campbell and when the trade happened, like, Dan wanted to talk to him and tell him, like, hey, this isn't a. This is. You're my guy. Like, told him that basically from the beginning. And I don't know if one of them got emotional. I remember.

[C]

I remember golf getting emotional for sure.

[A]

Yes. Like they, they was like a real. You could tell it was like a real connection because both of them feel like they probably careers. We. We did this and then the first win in a city. Yeah. And then they cry after first in a city that doesn't really, really have that a lot. Like, that's a special connection, a special bond. I didn't even think about that whenever it came to him calling plays versus maybe somebody else. And you got to keep in mind in year one, I mean, they started out 0 and 10. They were 313 and 1. And I'll tell you what, Jared Goff was not good. Everyone thought he was a bridge quarterback. Everyone thought he was going to be out of there, we're going to draft someone. And mcdc stuck with him. And I know that means the world to him. And now, like, he did what Matthew Stafford can never do in 12 years in Detroit. He's winning his playoff game games, which is just crazy. And what's the chant in Detroit? It's literally at any sporting event you go to in Michigan. Jared golf. Jared Goff. Jared golf. And remember, he got kicked out of LA basically in that trade that happened in a Hotel in Mexico. That is just. It's a crazy thing to think about. And you talk about their records the first year mcdc was there. Let's go back to a record, a good one. Coach McCarthy would be six and three. Okay. If he was to be picking Thursday night football games. He has picked the Patriots minus 12 and a half. Even though coach for a division game. That's a lot of points.

[D]

That's a lot of points.

[A]

That's a lot of points.

[F]

Okay.

[D]

Yeah, it's a lot of points. No, I made the pick. I'll stick to it.

[A]

Yeah, and on that note, you're sticking to it. 58% of the public bets are on the Patriots minus 12 and a half. And in our YouTube chat, Bill ran one. Bill's wearing a toboggan and the whole thing did. He looks very interesting. He put a. He put a poll in the chat. Who you got tonight? Patriots minus 12 and a half. 70% of the voters. So 58% of the public. 70% of the YouTube chat poll. Mike McCarthy, Boston. Connor saying 42. Nothing maybe. All right, coach, good luck tonight. Hopefully that becomes a 7 and 3. And we appreciate the hell out of you taking time out of your life to chat with us.

[D]

I just want. Guys, quick question. What, what, what. What is the numbers on. On the team with the points on Thursday Night Football like the team to get some points. Did the team with the points win, what, 80, 90% of the games?

[E]

It's a lot of points.

[B]

I know. Not last week.

[F]

Early in the season, primetime games were being won by the underdogs. And then it's flipped as of late. But I think it's. It's right around 50 right now. As far as dogs and favorites.

[B]

Yeah. Last week was huge lopsided line Raiders Broncos and the Raiders did end up covering. But coach, I mean you put your head down on that pillow tonight and tell me that you're okay with taking the jets plus 12.

[A]

That's what I think the YouTube chat. I think that's what the YouTube chat bullets. You either pick the Patriots with everything we've said for the last or you could take the jets right here. Nobody. I mean 30% of the people are good for them. Those are the sharps that feel but from us, Coach McCarthy, we're going to wrap up here on ESPN again and continue on digital. You got anything to say? You got the countdown clock right in front of you. Final message for the TV crowd.

[D]

The TV crowd.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[D]

A.J. you did a great job today. I thought you give me Some more questions. Thank you. All right, have fun. I'm not going this time. Right on transfer. Over.

[B]

We're already over. We're already. We're still live.

[D]

We're still. We're still alive. Yeah, we're still. I didn't know what the hell was going on last week. I was like, what in the hell is he talking about this week?

[B]

You definitely like.

[D]

Am I supposed to say something here or. Totally screwed me up last week. All right, all right.

[A]

Expensive football. We appreciate the hell out of you, super bowl champ.

[B]

Stay in my lane.

[D]

Stay in my lane because I can see you're doing a hell of a job with those TV contracts. I ain't gonna bring that up.

[A]

I'm trying, man. I, I have. Yeah, I would like to let.

[D]

Yeah, you and your suit friends.

[A]

I, I would like to.

[D]

I gotta get out of here.

[A]

Coach would be proud to know that I have like Asuit sent some emails to both parties saying that ball is needed more ball. Good ball. Two parties that are actually involved in it, not a website. Hey, let's remember, come on now, some.

[C]

New news on that today ball.

[F]

Yeah, it's abc. ABC is the hold up apparently.

[A]

Really? That would be a crazy turn of events certainly with how the conversation has been going. But on that note, I think it's just a couple people that just need to. Yeah, we just need you to. Yeah.

[C]

Basically said get comfy.

[A]

That's. We just need.

[C]

Get comfy.

[A]

Yeah, we, we. Hey, ball for a good ball. Go to ball, you know, Go to ball. Please, please. And on that. Let's take a break.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

On the other side, AJ Hawk and I will make our official picks. We'll wrap up all these sports stories from around the sports universe. We will celebrate the fact that. Oh, I just saw this for the first time like that, aj it's not cuz I beat you, but I am certainly I'm going to pause the side of things heading into a. Oh yeah, Bay week.

[D]

You're.

[E]

You're seeing the field.

[B]

Did you take the bucks? Oh, no. Good call. Last week.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I want to let you.

[E]

What was I thinking?

[A]

I think you got a good chance of. You know me, when I believe in a team, boy, I believe in them. Remember I lost hundreds of thousands maybe on that Chiefs team. Yeah, you remember.

[B]

That's for sure, brother.

[A]

That was a lot of fun. AJ you remember those days when the Chiefs were winning all those games but nowhere near by enough points? Do you remember that?

[B]

Yep.

[E]

That makes it a little bit tougher now that that messes me up sometimes making picks these days.

[A]

Yeah, I rode with that Chiefs team, Nate. Cause Chiefs are still the Chiefs. And then I have to walk into the program on Monday and go, they won. They still the Chiefs. But boy, feels like this sportsbook knows exactly what the number is supposed to be. So you don't win with the Chiefs. That's what it became. Cause they weren't blowing teams out, but they were winning. And then lo and behold, when they were able to win those close games, they would inevitably win a Super bowl. Because to Mike McCarthy's point, not every game can be a blowout, even if you're a great team. So, like, when your team wins, you should be happy. Like when the Colts beat the Falcons this past weekend, they were super. So many people that were like, it's the Falcons. It's about, it's like we were in Germany.

[C]

It's an international game.

[A]

McQuade was.

[B]

Yeah, a lot of pressure.

[A]

Any more stats coming out of Germany for that game with Jonathan Taylor running for that many yards? Has that been talked about in the history of Europe, especially in the football sphere?

[C]

A big thing. They are saying it, you know, lads, this is the greatest performance in the stadium since Jesse Owens won the gold medal in the Olympics in 1933. I mean, you go and you look at everything, lads. They're saying this might go down as the most important running in the history of the stadium. That's not what McQuade's saying. That's not what I'm saying. There's just a lot of lads around Berlin, you know, and in different European countries who are saying we haven't seen anything like that since long time. Long time since Jesse Owens is running on this very hallowed field. And, you know, just Jonathan Taylor, lads, reached actually a higher top speed than Jesse Owens did on his 100 meter dash victory and whatever other metal pads in full pads, lads. Yeah, and I believe I want to say that his, his spikes were actually very similar, if not the exact same spikes that Jesse Owens ran when he won. I understand it doesn't make any sense because he was basically wearing like, you know, just pieces of leather with like little golf tees on the bottom of them, lads. But, you know, the, the, the cleat technology, actually I did do a little bit of a deep dive in this cleat technology actually has not come that far since those 1933 Olympic Games, lads. So it's unbelievable to think that basically Jonathan Taylor, he walked into the stadium, lads. And I, I haven't confirmed this. I will look into It. I will go back to Berlin this week, obviously, in Madrid this weekend for, you know, commanders dollar Dolphins. I mean, I am the Internet. Yeah. Thank you. I am the international man of mystery, a la Austin Powers. But I will go back over there. Yeah. And I will see. I'm not. I. There was a little display case right when you walk in the stadium. These are Jesse Owens cleats. These are unbelievable. Rumor has it.

[A]

No way.

[C]

Rumor has it Shane Steichen walked in, smashed the display case. Sorry, Dale. That was not planned, obviously. Sorry, lads. Smash the display case. Took him right down. He said, JT got a new pair of cleats for you today. And JT didn't even need to say anything. Didn't even say, like, no, I like my cleats, Lyle. I mean, I'm rushing for three touchdowns a game, you know, 200 plus yards a game. He knew exactly what needed to be done. Took him, laced him up, and we saw what happened.

[A]

I didn't see those on the field.

[C]

Yeah, you'd have to maybe go back and look at the tape again, you know, because obviously, you know, you. We have these 8K images. You know, things get enhanced. But if you're watching it on like a, you know, potato, or like a.

[A]

720, 480 here we have like, 1020 or 1080.

[C]

Let me see. Yeah, you can see them. Y. See him right there.

[A]

That's them. McQuade.

[C]

No, I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure you're saying this was.

[A]

The best running in this stadium. You said people were saying that. Not. Not you.

[C]

I didn't say that. I heard that from a lot of people from around, you know, the surrounding area in the lower bowl. I believe they actually did paint the cleats blue before the games, lads, because obviously they. They didn't look like that, you know, back then.

[A]

I don't know. We're gonna have to check that. But I do appreciate the fact that that's some of the greatest run in the history of Germany. I. I mean, that dude won. Crazy. International.

[F]

Is it true that McQuaid is singing the national anthem in Spanish in Spain? Is that. I saw that on the Internet, too.

[A]

That would be. I would. Okay. Would we be surprised?

[E]

No, no, no, no, not. No, no.

[A]

That's kind of the way to look relieved.

[B]

International.

[A]

Just saw myself walk in TV in morning. They're doing a pregame routine on the tv. May I have a coffee? It's nice. Kenzie, probably, you know, I'm telling her we're international. This is Spain. Get over there someday. And then McQuade just pops up and goes, sorry, lads. And then just starts.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Kills it.

[A]

That'd be a great Sunday morning.

[C]

If that's not the plan, it needs to be learn. It knows, though. He understands.

[A]

You think they responded to the kickoff conversation that happened on Veterans Day?

[B]

That's a good question.

[E]

I do wonder if they. They take that as, like, construction.

[A]

We have not reached out for comment, but we do know that they heard it. Yeah, they. They definitely heard it.

[B]

He definitely heard it.

[A]

Thank you for sticking up. I believe was. I think it's like, yeah. Hey, we had to save the place. Mr. President.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Are they even allowed to do that? I thought he was going to potentially get Cash Patel to look into the NFL. Are you allowed to change the game?

[C]

Still time.

[A]

Are you allowed to do that? That fundamentally changed. The ball's in the air. He said, nobody's moving.

[E]

That's an interesting point, I guess, about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

If the ball's in the air, there's always people moving. Except for that.

[A]

Not that the play has started. The ball's in the air. I'm seeing it. Nobody's. Is this a live play? What is this? This in football? Just him. Every time he watches it, probably just another thing he notices. And I. I did want to tell him, and I did that. Hey, none of us are saying, yeah, this is better than the.

[E]

Yeah. Better than not having it. It's better than not having it.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

This is supposed to save the play. This is saving, you know, a lot of special teams importance to the game. And I. Former punter and kickoff guy and jobs. Yeah, we would like to keep that in there. But they were saying they were gonna. What's the data? They're still running into each other. He's saying. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, he did. He did.

[B]

Yeah. I would love to be a fly on the wall of wherever Josh Harris was when he just doubled down on the not commanders.

[A]

Oh, wait, Josh.

[B]

When he was just there two days before injury. Josh Harris this week.

[A]

I'm not even gonna tell you what I was gonna say. I said at one point, what was that gonna be?

[E]

What was that gonna be?

[A]

Who knows? Could go any different way, huh? Yeah. Shout out to the vets.

[C]

Oh, yeah, shout out.

[A]

Absolutely. That was cool that we got to do all that. So cool. Yeah. And I wonder if the VA gets a little bit of an uptick, hopefully. I hope so. This is Kevin Clark for manscaped.

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[C]

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[D]

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Terms and conditions apply. Football, hey. Is magical. That's AJ Hawk right there.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

Aj.

[C]

Hey, I got.

[E]

I got a little delay. I tried to start saying football a split second earlier. Am I on time or am I behind everybody?

[A]

I think this one was good. So whenever I'm at a place on Friday. Friday. I try to go right before everybody as well. I don't know how it sounds when I go.

[B]

Yep, same thing. It comes through right on time.

[A]

Right on time. Okay, so it is like a little bit Of a beat, though, AJ it is hard to kind of guess, isn't it?

[E]

Oh, yeah. Because you don't know you fit. You think you're right on time with everybody else, but you're like a second behind if you. If you wait.

[B]

So.

[E]

Yeah, I just gotta jump it a little bit.

[A]

Yeah, you gotta feel it. I think you gotta feel when you got to get in there. And I want to let you know, I think you did a great job.

[B]

Yeah, thank you.

[A]

Because I've been in your position on Fridays, you know, and I know what you're. You're going through. It is always like. And then if you miss it, it's like, missed it.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah, we're gone now. It's an echo football.

[B]

A good thing that helps us with that, too, is watching. Watching you on the big board when. When we're all, like, about to say, like for Hawker. Like, you should see like, when it. When it's coming in. Just where we're at as far as about to say it.

[A]

Anyways, on all the football updates, College Football Playoff committee got a lot of them. Mack Rhodes, Baylor ad, who is the chair of the College Football Playoff Committee, steps down this morning amidst an investigation happening at Baylor. We don't know the exacts of all of it. Outkick reported an incident with a tight end and then a coach with the athletic director. He's also the chair, obviously, of the CFP committee. Your thoughts on this, AJ as we've already had two CFP brackets released, they've already already started to meet. He was the one that was the mouthpiece for the entire group that Reese Davis spoke to on those Tuesday night shows. They have a new chair. He's the Arkansas AD Mr. Hunter Urachek. He was already on the committee. They're promoting him to be the new chair. There's a subcommittee within the College Football Playoff committee that'll vote on if he should be leading the entire committee. And I assume he will join, join that subcommittee that is the leadership committee of the College Football Playoff committee. Because we need another committee to be making decisions, even though we're in a room to make a fucking decision. On that note, we're appreciative of their process. We understand what they have going on. And then the AD Mark Harlan from Utah, who has been in the CFP committee in the past, will join or has been nominated once again. Subcommittee got to go through the process of the CFP committee has to vote on it for everybody. But he's been there before, and they're nominating him. To join it back. He's a Big 12 AD. They lose a Big 12 AD and Baylor eye for an eye is what Heather Dennis said. AJ I just said a lot there to kind of catch everybody up on what is happening. Your thoughts on this happening middle of season, late season here with so much implications on the line.

[E]

Yeah it is a bit unique I guess for the head of the whole situation to step down right now. I all I know is what I've read from what the outkick stuff and what you guys have talked about. What a wild wild allegations. I guess if if true whatever is going on with with the whole situation the sideline but this shouldn't change like the votes. The other people there I would assume aren't super swayed by Mr. Mack Rhodes, are they? Unless this guy was some, you know David Koresh type guy. Get people to really follow him. What are we supposed to like?

[C]

It shouldn't change.

[A]

I didn't even think that. I didn't mean that.

[E]

I didn't mean to do that. But it does work.

[A]

I don't know if he's a Davidian leader or not in the CFD committee room or which committee potentially is the closer follower of his but he is the mouthpiece of it. So I think there is obviously an expectation for him to at least have to hear every argument if I had to guess because he's going to be the one that's going to be speaking. So hiring from within the committee to be the new chair I think was the only really logical move. Bringing a guy that's already been in there back. Is that good news or bad news in your eyes? And then how do you think BYU feels. Hold the phone here we got Utah back in this thing. I thought we had him out. I thought we had him out of here.

[E]

I just wonder is the new guy that steps in are they gonna still do the hats or was that a Mac road situation? Are we not going to hang.

[A]

They definitely should still hang the hat but they the new hat that comes in needs to. To be maybe yeah that that be a good touch. A big splash hat. Cuz that hat gone. Yeah that hat was chair hat that first half. So they have an open Antonio.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

They have an open arm on a hat Rock. Is that. Is that him?

[C]

I think that's him.

[F]

Side profile might be.

[C]

That's a flashy outfit.

[B]

I was going to say up here.

[C]

What everybody else is wearing.

[A]

He's got a lot of pizzazz.

[E]

That's Mark Dantonio there.

[A]

He doesn't like the yellow Yellow, allegedly via an outkick article. He did not like the yellow long sleeves, but he loves that shirt. Is that him? Could we go back to the beginning?

[E]

That's what. Oh, man.

[A]

Is that him?

[F]

Looks like I'm side profile.

[E]

It's a football player on that. In the back of that jacket. Let's see.

[A]

Yeah, go ahead.

[C]

Yeah, I'd say that might be him.

[A]

Guys got monster.

[B]

That shirt is so sick.

[A]

Listen, whenever you're the one speaking for the group, you put your hat in on the rack first and you dress like this is what he said whenever they started meeting. And I can't blame him for that. But I think there's a lot of other stuff going on potentially in his life that people are certainly going to be looking into. And good luck out there, bub. Into the new people that are a part of the committee and in new positions there. Good luck to you guys as well. I cannot wait to see how you do. Maybe a fresh voice in a room on the season's a good thing, A.J.

[E]

Yeah, of course it is. It's got to be a good thing. And the people that are being promoted from what they. They know. They know the process. They know how it works. You don't have to sit there and, you know, relearn and reteach them how the things go.

[A]

Why couldn't we nominate Tone Diggs to be a part?

[C]

Good question.

[E]

I mean, we can nominate him. Let's nominate him now. We don't. Who's stopping us from nominating?

[A]

We'd like to nominate AP Tone, who does not have an AP vote in college football, only in NFL football. But he is a two time. Two time college football author. We'd like to nominate this man, apart Tone for the open chair. Yeah, yeah, we'll nominate him for the chair of the entire thing, but if not that, a seat in the CFP committee. All in favor say aye. Opposed. All right.

[B]

Tony, who said that you can't.

[E]

You can't accept the nomination and vote against yourself?

[A]

You know what. What are you doing right now?

[F]

I solemnly swear to. To represent the cfp.

[E]

What's the left hand?

[F]

Normally? Right hand I would put on, you know, the college football ball or something like that.

[E]

Your college football bible. Your bible that you wrote. They all put their hair.

[A]

Oh, I think that is what they do though, right? Your heart. Because it's the same thing. Yeah, that's what I did. Yeah. College football.

[F]

I solemnly swear to represent the CFP committee with the best of my. My ability. No biases, only stats, facts and watching good old all 22 tape to come up with the best 12 teams we could possibly come up with.

[A]

Yeah, I don't know if it's gonna work, but that was a good pick. That was a good pitch. I'd also like to nominate Nick Saban because everybody's nominating him for all these jobs.

[B]

Step below tone.

[A]

Yeah, that's our second. Yeah, that's our second nomination. I would also like Desmond Howard in there just because I think he would mix it up. Just looking at the hat. Look at the hats and the thing. It'd be great to get Des in there. I would love for Desmond Howard to be in that room. If not Des, obviously Reese, who does the interview. I think he'd be good representation. Basically. Anybody on the show that I'm a part of.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

But me. Okay. I think is probably good people to put in there, mostly because what would you want to be there? No way. And now these two names are, like, the loudest. The two new spots. Well, hey, Hunter Urachek out of Arkansas. He's taking everything. This is the guy. Okay. And then Mark Harland out of Utah. He's in there, too. Do we know who any. No. So whenever you get it wrong, the only three people you're associate. God, Utah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know. You know, I don't know if it's the best thing to be a part of just my experience with college football. You're going to piss off so many people. Just so. And they're very passionate, and I don't know if you're ever going to get it right, A.J. i don't know if you're.

[C]

If you're.

[E]

If you're a retired coach. I can see, like, I saw my old DC Marc d'. Antonio. He's on the committee for him. He's retired from football. He still follows Ball, would imagine, keeps him involved. It's probably good for someone like that.

[A]

Yeah, I bet. But you're going to get. The backlash is immediate.

[B]

He doesn't care.

[E]

He's not here. He doesn't hear it. He doesn't care. I would imagine that BA Last week.

[F]

Also said he was friends with a coach. I can't remember who it was on the committee. And he was like, they make you watch more tape in these meetings than I have ever watched, even as a coach. I was like, oh, that is great to hear.

[A]

Okay, so you're forced to watch this tape, basically.

[E]

Who runs it, too? Who runs the tape, too? You can't just put film on and just sit there and look at it.

[A]

Well, that's thing, that's why Mac Rhodes got that shirt on. Yeah. The chair's up there in the front trying to steal everybody's, you know, attention, make sure they're not sleeping, you know. Okay, fourth quarter here, Ohio State Buckeyes are up 42. And then the, the projector hits off his. Yeah. Shirt and there's a, there's a glimmer, a shine that captivates everybody's eyes, you know, that is. He's the one doing the show. He's the one doing the show. Which is why Hunter Urichek. Good luck in there.

[B]

Good luck. And that's why they split up those kind of responsibilities. Instead of having that guy run the tape and be the chair. I do think that's where bringing in the other guy to walk him through the tape to just at least show him what we're looking for. He doesn't have to be on the committee, but at least he's maybe teacher of the tape.

[A]

Here's some other stuff that we need to be looking at. And then he's highlighting things.

[B]

Bingo.

[A]

From another game. Let's go to another situation. Those types of things.

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Premier player. So then we know at least what they're watching.

[E]

Well, yeah.

[A]

An individual time with Stanford. Steve needs to be had too. So make sure he's reaching them a.

[C]

Couple cocktails before they go in. Maybe just because, you know, you can't go in like a stiff either. You know, you got, and you got the other guy saying, I mean we were there in Pasadena getting ready to go out to dinner. Bar's about to close, about 10 minutes. We're about to go out to dinner. We're going to meet you down there, Steve. I got it, don't worry about it. We came down, he had 38 Jack and Cokes. Oh yeah, he's just waiting for us. There you go, boys.

[B]

Hey, how you doing guys?

[C]

I got a couple drinks for you here. Semi great guy, spilled all over himself, was being the greatest. Exactly. We need a guy like that just kind of rubbing off on these people because you know, at the end of the day we need to find the 12 best teams and who better to do that than Steve?

[A]

Starting with 12, count down to one. Who's it going to be? They decide, they choose. Good luck there.

[B]

Go get it.

[A]

I appreciate them taking their hats off going in there.

[C]

This is a good game.

[B]

Respectful.

[A]

Cuz you could lower that hat, not watch the film. You're sleeping.

[C]

True.

[A]

It's like a high school game. Can't have that Take the hats off. We want to see your eyes and your eyelids. Let's make sure that's happening. We're going to force you guys. Six hours here. Film. Make sure we're seeing it. This. Is that what you're saying? They're saying like six hours of film.

[F]

I don't know. We'd have to ask BA Next time he's in here. But I was just looking at those people. They probably need a nap, too.

[A]

Well, that's what I'm saying. How do you that. That's immediate sleepy. Sleepy time. That's why you need Stanford Ste.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, imagine the Ovaltine that's flowing through that room while the lights are out. Maybe some film happen. Yes, absolutely.

[B]

The spam for lunch. Breakthrough. Halfway.

[C]

Come on, a nice meal.

[A]

Do they got checkers in there?

[C]

Oh, that doubt.

[A]

You know, every. Every day is checkers, man.

[B]

Cribbage.

[A]

They need Stanford maybe.

[B]

I think they put a shuffleboard in there. Originals.

[E]

Bocce ball.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Never see him fit in there. Well, doesn't need a vote though, because he already takes enough heat with his picks.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[F]

That's true.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I'm take him to the tape.

[A]

Hey, two and one this last weekend, I think.

[B]

Come on now. Steve, baby. Steve.

[A]

He's going to get them all right this week. All right. Let's make our picks, dude. Let's do this. I don't know what I'm doing.

[E]

Yeah, I tell you what. Big Mike kind of. I thought he wasn't going to take the point. I thought it was a lot of points. And he actually is sticking with. I think Con man definitely bullied him into this and he felt like, you know, Big Mike is a team guy and he thinks he's.

[C]

He.

[E]

He said, I'm a team member. I'm part of the squad. Here we go. I'll take the Patriots, but yeah, I'm trying to figure mine out.

[B]

This is the first prime time game in New England in over two years.

[A]

Exactly my point. This is a. That I said earlier. This is a. Hello, we're back from all of New England. You can certainly see it playing out that way, especially with how good their fans are. It's not. It's not like it's a brand new fan base trying to figure out what a good theme is. It's like they're a smart fan base. That is a smart fan. They know when to be loud. They know what to say. They know who to target. I mean, they. That's a great atmosphere for a lot of different reasons. And then Vrabo and Drake. I think it's a big. For them, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, here we go. Lights are on. This is our house. It's not the old dynasty's house. I think they can prove a lot. And on that note, it's been real loud, like, Kirk, Herb Street. Kirk, Herb street last Thursday comes on the show and goes, don't tell anybody. Keep this quiet. I was going to be the workman in Iowa, and it's like, Kirk. I think a lot of us were thinking that. Well, not a lot of us. I don't think a lot of people nationally.

[C]

No, right.

[A]

A lot of people in the Thunderdome, strictly because we were forced to watch the Iowa Hawkeyes team because of Ty Schmidt. Lot of people in this Thunderdome are thinking the same thing. And I guess we should have reached out to him and we should have told him, hey, yeah, there he is. We should have reached out to him and we should have told him, hey, we're not saying shit about this. Like this. We purposely did not even. I mean, we were just staying completely clear of it. There's no reason, especially with the type of coach that Dan Lanning is like, Dan Lanning definitely feeds off of that shit. I mean, it is one of those things. So if we think Iowa does have a chance, there is no reason. There's no reason to just go ahead and wake up Oregon. Basically. Now the Iowa fans is. It wasn't like they just woke up and they killed us. But I thought Kirk made it way too loud. I. I think.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I think it got way too loud. Way too loud. And he almost predicted the damn game. I mean, Kirk knows ball, obviously, and we thought he. We're on the same page, him with Iowa potentially upsetting Oregon, but it got too loud. Football gods maybe go. I don't think that's how that goes. If it's going to be a massive upset, it can't be something that the whole world's talking about for multiple days beforehand. And now I'm starting to wonder if that's what's going to happen here tonight with this jets team. Like, there's no way, anybody. 70% of the YouTube poll said, patriots minus 12 and a half. Okay, that was with 15,000 votes, allegedly. Who knows? You know, I'm getting a lot of tweets that look very similar. I'm getting a lot of tweets that look very similar, and they're very mean. And I'm like, wow, this many people are saying the same thing. This could be a fake. Those could be bots saying, yeah, but then you read it again, you're like, kind of true, though. These bots are getting good, so who knows how many actual humans are in this particular poll? We assume YouTube and Google's algo is good at defense of those types of things, so we can say it's pretty accurate. 15,000 actual humans voted on this thing, but 70% of them are on the Patriots. And I've literally, for two hours, the start of the show, just sang the praises of the Patriots.

[B]

Yeah, it's like me for four hours before the show.

[A]

Am I a part of the problem? Am I a part of the problem here? Did I completely flip it? That's what I'm trying to figure out. Aj, Who'd you officially take?

[E]

I haven't officially taken anyone, but, you know, I almost flipped back to the jets, but I am taking the Patriots. Here we go.

[A]

I don't know if I just want to give one up to AJ Here.

[E]

Because I. Garrett Wilson's hurt. I know. Like, I don't love that. For the jets.

[C]

Do one thing well, and that just so happens to be the best thing on the Patriots team. And they're very like. I just.

[A]

Yeah, it.

[C]

It's.

[A]

The Patriots are dominating today. We all are just in agreement that the Patriots are dominating tonight. There's a chance that this jets team could have found some things in the last two weeks that they put up a fight and they're within two scores. I assume Aaron Glenn is hearing all this saying, this is very disrespectful of our football team.

[B]

No doubt.

[A]

I think we're just going to get blown out at here. He can pull from a lot of things, which almost makes me want to do the jets plus 12 and a half thing, but I can't, because what I've seen from this Patriots, actually watching them with Patriots fans, they are so good. Like, so good. And last week, maybe Drake starts out a little bit slow. He figures it out, and Josh McDaniels figures it out. It's like, they are very talented. And then the defense is outrageous, so. And it's first primetime home game for these boys.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, the Gronk.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Gronk's keeper of the light.

[B]

There's so. There's so many things working in our favor where I am also in your shoes, where it's like, wait a minute. Wait, is it too much? And then it's. It's not.

[A]

Now stop thinking.

[B]

Yeah, it's not one of those teams. It's a variable team. Like, it Is a different situation. Yeah. Very humble team. Very. Hey, we're just going to work every day like if, if the messaging was different out of the building itself like even you know social media stuff on individuals and things of that nature then maybe okay, they, they're taking their eye on but I think it's more so like hey if we dominate tonight, what's on the horizon is a four day weekend. We have a. We're, we're on the road next week but again four day weekend and then you're back in the building. So this will be the first break in 11 weeks that they've really had if, if they just kind of get the job done, take care of business and beat the out of them or.

[A]

They'Re already on vacation. Oh I don't think so. Give me the Patriots minus 12 and a half. You as well. We're all on this I think Hammer, how are you guys doing this? Are you guys betting game? 12 and a half too many points. How are you viewing?

[F]

I think it's a dead nuts under.

[A]

Okay, that's town's best pick.

[B]

42 nothing.

[A]

Fresh out of Hammer.

[C]

Done.

[A]

Let's go to the other cowboy that rides in and says you know what? I'll bet on everything. What do you mean everything? You heard me. All of it. Cricket. You sure? Yes. I'll take two actually. They got a good squad over there.

[C]

They got a good team split two and a half wickets last week.

[A]

International international play lad. And they're taking on, they're taking on a team that is just a group of muppets from Beirut. That's Gumpy Will say Gumpy, what do you like in this game? Are you 12 and a half too many points? Are you staying away from that?

[F]

I like the under as well. And the touchdown parlay of the quarterbacks is absolutely in play tonight. I imagine Drake May scores the first touchdown tonight as well.

[A]

He gets loose. So Gumpy just made four bets in his head.

[F]

Also, also we're just talking about random sports. I like WVU minus five and a.

[A]

Halfers pit and college basketball tonight.

[C]

I love that.

[A]

Okay G Sports we want to venture to venture into is crooks playing tonight. I'd like to bet on her over. Is that possible? College sports parlay should not be happening. Crooks seemingly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We like support. We like support. Their team will win the game. I don't like the props on the college games.

[C]

Can't have it.

[A]

Yeah, I don't like it. I, I think it's not good. It's ripe. It's too ripe for a bad situation.

[C]

It's already happened multiple times, too.

[A]

Gotta play defense here. Yeah, we gotta play defense of some sort, you know? But you're taking away something that's really okay. Well, we would like it to survive forever, though. Like, we would like this to continue to survive, so we're gonna have to adapt. I think the college one's very scary.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Not that the professional. She's unbelievable. Aj, have you seen this? Have you been watching this or following along with this story?

[E]

Oh, yeah. She started popping up my algorithm and then watching these highlights like she's killing. Sweet little turnaround. Step back. She hits, obviously, in the paint. Like, good luck stopping her.

[A]

Yeah. You said she started popping into your algorithm. Me too. I appreciate it, too. Did you see Hannah Hidalgo? Did you see this? Yes.

[C]

Dude.

[A]

Women's college hoops is outrageous right now. She broke a record most points in Notre Dame school history, which obviously there's been a lot of greats. Most steals in the history of college basketball, both men's and women's in a game. Yeah. Just absolutely insanity on the court by Hannah Hidalgo and A.J. hawk. Yeah.

[E]

Sixteen steals. That's like a season worth of steals for a lot of people, I feel like, isn't it?

[C]

Yes.

[E]

Yeah, it really is.

[A]

And she also. She beat the zips, 12 nothing, I think, in the second quarter. I think she won 12 nothing over the zips. Just her 12 them, nothing. Nobody else scored.

[E]

Man, this is.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

I mean, this. Where did I see it? I saw it on, like, Good Morning America, one of those morning shows. They highlighted her. Hannah had dog. And they talked about her being, like, one of the next big superstars and in college basketball.

[A]

Well, then there's a Caitlyn Clark up there in Fairfield for the Stags. I guess Connor said.

[B]

Yeah, Megan Anderson, she's averaging 33 a game for. Shoot. The woman's stag team has been good for a little bit here, so now their recruiting classes have gotten much better. And Megan Anderson, she's a junior now. Like, genuinely, there's a chance of Stags here going around. I mean, there are the. I think 11 seed in the tournament last year. It's not like they've been bad and gumpy.

[A]

Let's go to men's college basketball. West Virginia night over pit. We got a good team. Hey, we brought that coach in who's really good at coaching that stuff.

[F]

Yeah, both teams are three. And, oh, they both looked really good, actually.

[A]

Yeah. And the coach for West Virginia, that guy can coach the hell out of a Basketball game. I. I love that. Coach Gumpy. Yeah. I wish I knew his name, too.

[C]

Some from North Texas.

[A]

Yeah. Ross Hog Coach. Listen, you said two as if I didn't know his name. I know this man. I met him. I met this man. I respect this man. He's got a damn good basketball team, this man. And I like the way he builds. I guess we play great defense. I. I guess it is a very difficult thing. That's Rash Hodge football score against us. I think if I'm remembering accurately whenever we hired him. I guess it's a ground and pound basketball team here. I. I mean. And going to be good quickly, is what I've been told. And on that note, Coach Hodge is.

[B]

Going to do that for even damn good.

[C]

And West Virginia's former head coach, Darren Devries. I've been watching Indiana. They. They look like. They look to be pretty good this year.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Is his boy playing?

[C]

Yeah, his boy has been lighting up the bucket. Boy is a good basketball player.

[B]

Yes, he is.

[A]

Yes, he is. We saw that at West Virginia for four games or whatever. Oh, yeah, he's a great player.

[C]

He is. Indiana has looked very good early. They beat Marquette this weekend. Yeah, they're.

[A]

And West Virginia is really happy that we could have him for a year. For you guys or for Indiana to get ready and hire him. And his boy. And his boy, which we thought was potentially going to lead us to a Final Four. But now we got Coach Hodge and he's.

[C]

He's got tough team this year.

[A]

That's right.

[B]

Tough.

[C]

Some.

[A]

They'll chew glass on the wood. They'll chew wood on glass.

[F]

They don't care.

[A]

That's what the team does. They kick ass. Okay, A.J. that's West Virginia football or basketball. Bear back to where?

[E]

I don't know. Anywhere. We need him coaching in the NCAA tournament.

[A]

All right. All right.

[E]

Yeah, maybe.

[F]

Well said.

[A]

I don't know. He had a hell of a run. There was. There was a lot that happened. But obviously West Virginia teams played hard.

[E]

His team's played hard. We know that.

[A]

West Virginia, Cincinnati, obviously a lot of great wins. A lot of things happened there towards the end. But Mountaineers, you know, thank him for his time, as do University of Cincinnati. Cincinnati, I would assume. If this ball falls here, Gumpy's hitting all four of his betsies.

[B]

Boom, boom. Okay.

[A]

All right. Oh, Gumpy, I'm sorry.

[F]

Oh, no.

[A]

Run it back.

[B]

Do one for. Do one for Tonga. Let's see if Chris Tonga gets in the paint tonight. Can you shoot one for him?

[A]

Yeah, dude.

[B]

Yeah. D lineman.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Big fullback.

[A]

I love. I love big ooze. And how make throwing a ball.

[B]

Yeah, exactly. Vrael has two touchdowns against the jets in his career.

[A]

Oh, no, Sam.

[F]

Miss.

[B]

Yeah, maybe. Maybe next week. Tonga.

[A]

No, for Tonga.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Boom.

[E]

Oh, good.

[B]

That's probably plus 3,500.

[A]

Just had to shoot it.

[F]

You know, that just means he's scoring the second touchdown of the game.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

So now see, here's another bet. See, what we're talking about here is like six, seven different bets that could eventually hit and the universe just told us they should. Got a new game out here. I don't know if you saw it. Somebody sent it in. It's just a little round thing that's sitting at the free throw line. Pretty good little game.

[B]

Oh, there's two.

[A]

Yeah, there's two. I think you set it up like cornhole. I think it is set up like cornhole. Okay, so you got a little hacky sacks, four per team. And they toss it and if it lands on top of the board, it's one point. If it goes into hole, it's three points. Much like Cornhole or any of the other games, they're kind of similar to this horseshoes or whatever, but if it falls off, you get a kick. Because it's a hacky set, you can hack it. So I think you're trying to throw it to make it in the hole and then you're just trying to play a little defense with the feet. We put a couple. I don't want to say mileage on these things yesterday, but it feels like this is a good idea for a game.

[B]

Great game.

[A]

Feels like this is a very good idea for a game. We were playing it pretty good yesterday and it just got sent to office. Whoever created this, I think good idea. I think you got a good idea here.

[F]

Good hacker.

[B]

So you. You have.

[E]

Is it two, like two on two?

[B]

Like.

[A]

Like Cornwall.

[E]

You play teams?

[A]

Same. Yeah. Opposite ends.

[B]

So if it's falling off the.

[E]

If.

[B]

If you.

[E]

They throw. Hacking second falls off the board, you can kick it where? Into the hole.

[A]

Try to make it hole or put it on top of the board.

[E]

Oh, that's sweet. Yeah, that'd be fun.

[A]

Yeah, it's a good game. And then also, you know, if you accidentally overthrow. Also can be an oop if you want.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

The only bad, bad shot is short. Cuz that's tough. Don't leave it short. That's tough to get to. Short is tough to get to because you got to operate the entire thing. But that thing's rolling off. You can even do like a little scoopy to roll it back on. Yeah, I started get the hang of.

[C]

It a little bit.

[A]

It's good game. I think it's a game hacky sack. Not the easiest to toss. It's a weird size and weight. It's a weird size.

[E]

Yeah, you probably cuz you want to like how you hold a cornhole bag. Like you want to. You throw a little spin to it. Yeah, that'd be hard with the hacky sack.

[A]

Yeah. So you're going. I think I want like this one here. But I think. Think I saw some. Some of this right here. Little finger rolls.

[B]

I was doing forward, forward, underhand before the show.

[A]

Today you're doing pong toss. I didn't even think about that.

[B]

Tony. Very consistently pong tossing that thing close to the hole.

[A]

Oh, has the office found a. A game maybe that can get them to the title?

[B]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Is that what you think it is, foxy? Is that what they think it is?

[F]

I prefer you ball over this game.

[A]

Really?

[C]

Yeah, just at first glance, I. I would. I would agree.

[F]

You gotta play first.

[C]

I don't hate it. I just. I don't like hacky sack.

[A]

Me neither.

[C]

I was never a hacky and you said that, so. I mean, I played soccer.

[A]

I played soccer.

[C]

Yeah, exactly. I did. You know, so it's like anything footwise. Because, I mean, I guess it's not. It's not really that much juggling. But.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, you definitely have to have feet.

[C]

Right. Icon coordination, which I. I mean, you know, I'm not a baby deer. I think I could do it. But just you ball.

[A]

It's good sport.

[C]

It is.

[A]

It's a good sport.

[F]

Some athleticism.

[A]

Some athleticism over here. Someone say this is how it goes in the office though. We play a game, we burn it to the ground and then, oh, new game over here, we burn that one to the ground and we just kind of go in a little cycle here.

[B]

Well, you ball.

[A]

It is.

[B]

The thing about u ball is I don't think it's been burned to the ground. It's just you and pat are so good that it's just at the point where, okay, who, who the gonna win? Nobody, except for pat and which this game can easily turn into as well.

[A]

No, I'm terrible with my feet, so I'm trying to avoid this. Foxy was bad. He almost kicked the thing like never been.

[B]

That's good news.

[A]

Yeah, that's the. Yeah. Come on, fox. Need to Start working, we'll get better. You start juggling World Cups around the corner.

[B]

True.

[A]

I assume the. That game's not going to get played. It's a good game, though. We'd like to let whoever knows that it's a good game. But it's. I don't know. I think there's a chance it is.

[B]

The, the good thing with a game like this actually is you could in theory kind of cross it up here. So while U ball games going on, you could play it this way. Oh, that is a good point.

[A]

At the same time.

[B]

So it could kind of be like the precursor to actual U ball because you're still kind of shooting, getting its balls still. So you can play it. Yeah. Vertically, perpendicular to the stage while u ball is going on this way.

[A]

Revel Round is the name of the game. It is a fun new lawn game, I'd say, developed by indie based Play Life nation. Hell yeah. Indie.

[B]

Oh, sick.

[A]

I didn't know that was the case. Essentially you have two round playing boards on. Once again, we get things shipped here. We open them or don't open them. You know, just kind of like hit or a miss open it. Could be cool. Let's go ahead and do that. Open it. Could be terrible. Let's act like we never saw that. Let's turn that thing away and don't open it. Happens sometimes. Those things never get seen. So we are not saying you should send something here and that it would definitely get seen. But if you do send something here and we open it, there's a chance that it changes the course of the Thunderdome for at least a couple days.

[B]

No doubt.

[A]

Yeah, at least a couple.

[B]

And those days get remembered for those people.

[A]

Just so I know, I mean, that's how you ball originated. Because somebody sent us the U ball thing that you put in the beach and then we just put it in the corner. Didn't use it for a while and then we're like, all right, let's just start shooting on it. And then a game gets formed. Yeah, yeah. It's pretty good time, you know, and it's great for Thunderdome morale. Yeah, Thunderdome. Some people get a little worked up though, like D bones. Been on quite a roller coaster with this U bomb.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I get it.

[A]

Remember, he was taking it serious early.

[B]

Oh, yeah, go ahead.

[E]

Has he ever. Has he ever gotten off the ground in legally tipped a ball?

[C]

Oh, no, he's not going to like that.

[E]

I've watched him actually do a couple reverses, a couple reverse dunks against me before he. That was the only time I saw. But, like, he. Does he know you have to be in the air when you tip it, though? I don't feel like.

[A]

I think you were talking about the most recent footage that was debuted by our U ball insider, Bruce Brown. You know, good. If it goes off the golf cart, he's down. He's nowhere near. That one's a close one. Foxy had a photo shot in New York. York. Want to zoom in? Photo. Bruce could have been up on that last one. You're supposed to be up on all three of those tips, but the effort was so immaculate that we had to. We had to really give them everything they had. Yeah. Very down. And then more down. And that one's up. I'm flying right there. Dude, that thing.

[D]

You're right.

[E]

You're right.

[A]

But this counted, by the way. And that's a U ball difference. Exactly. Gentleman's game. That's good effort right there. That is good effort. It was 10, three at that time, I think. First golf cart point. It was nowhere near.

[E]

Why do you stay with it or you stay with the point?

[A]

That's right. Mental toughness. That's right. That's what they showed. And what's their name?

[B]

What is it? Bruce's Bone.

[A]

Yeah, I think. Yeah, I think it is. Brown Bone.

[B]

Brown Bone. There it is.

[E]

Oh, nice.

[A]

I think that's what the name is.

[C]

I don't know. It might be workshopping that one.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that's a good point. Bone and Brown down would kind of be better.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Just like Bone and Butts.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

They were a good team. They left each other.

[C]

They did.

[A]

Nobody's talking about the U Ball controversy behind the scenes after this show ends. A lot happens, and there's been teams that have come together in great hope and separated in great despair. And Bone and Butts had a good run there early.

[C]

They did.

[A]

And they. I don't think I've seen them on a court together since. Have you?

[C]

No.

[D]

Anybody got to the bottom of that much?

[B]

Has a pretty powerful new team, actually.

[A]

What's that?

[F]

Tony, like AQ stole him the other day. So, like.

[A]

I mean, free agency is crazy. It's like the transfer portal.

[C]

It really is like the transfer portal.

[F]

Not a lot of honor in this office.

[C]

What, Tony? What?

[A]

Tony, You. You were throwing games. If you do recall.

[F]

That was a Mickey Mouse game.

[C]

Whoa.

[A]

Uball. He's talking about that game.

[F]

Should have never been played. Should never been tipped off.

[B]

It's all about you.

[A]

And that's the problem. We need to be the solution.

[F]

You're right.

[A]

And that's you. Ball. Let's get the hell out of here. Let's enjoy week 11 of the NFL season. Kicking off this evening in the AFC east on Amazon Prime. I'll be live tomorrow from Acreshire Field as I head to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania for college game day. Pitt hosting Notre Dame. We're outside Acreshire, I believe. Believe Roberto Clemente park, which is along the river. It's a great grassy area. It's supposed to be perfect weather. I think football is going to be celebrated in a huge way on Saturday, and I can't wait to get back and enjoy the hell out of it. College game days, atmospheres this year have been amazing.

[B]

Yeah. Delivering.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Lubbock, Texas, all time. All time nuts. That's actual.

[B]

That was like JMU vibes.

[A]

Exactly. Yeah, exactly. And what you guys couldn't see, well, you did on the drone shots was the other.

[C]

Yeah. The one time they showed it, it was like, holy. Like how deep it was. It was.

[A]

We had a crowd watching us. Like, we. It was like. I think they had actual, like. Like seats and bleachers, like, kind of going back that way. So stage. Obviously, everybody sees this way back that way. There was a lot of people that were, like, kind of watching us. I'm like, do they always have these bleachers? Did they bring this in for this? It was like. It was pretty. It was awesome. And you've heard everybody. Everybody talk about it. Herbie came out and talked about it. Stanford, Steve talked about it. Obviously, I talked about it. It's like when you go to those places that, you know their team is great for first time, long time. It's like they want to enjoy and celebrate the out of that. And they want everybody to know that they're celebrating the out of that. It's like Pitt can still win. The acc, Notre Dame. If they lose, they're out of the College Football Playoff. This is like massive implications. And also 20 years it's been since college football game day was at a pick game in Pittsburgh. So it should be, I think, football Tan. The celebrity guest picker Dog. Absolute dog.

[E]

Has that been announced yet?

[A]

No, Kaboli. No, it has not been. I will announce it is not Mark Kaboli.

[F]

I thought I saw a poster that.

[A]

Yeah, I saw a lot of things.

[B]

Yeah. The AI renderings of him eating a poop sandwich are uncalled for.

[A]

Hold on, hold on. We got some breaking news. We. Breaking news. We got some breaking news. The NFL sent a memo to team officials today saying that in light of recent gambling scandals in other sports, the league has worked with lawmakers, regulators and sports betting partners in recent weeks to limit and where possible, prohibit prop bets in the NFL. Okay, we're playing defense in real time here. The amount of people that have to. Okay, that lawmakers take forever. Regulators take forever. Sports betting partners can probably be a little bit more nimble, but normally it takes them forever because the regulators and the lawmakers take forever. So the fact that they're playing defense in real time on all three sides of this thing, I love one, I want to let everybody know that. And I think Adam Silver, whenever he was on the show a couple weeks back, he said that we're definitely talking to our sports partners about like, less meaningful props even being an option. Like, why are these things even here? One and a half over under. It feels like it's too riggable. Let's play defense against this in the future. I love that the NFL has been able to accomplish this and shout out to the regulators and lawmakers that it feels like they get paid by the day and they. Everything seemingly in their world takes forever. So them in real time trying to make sure everything can continue to go that we all would like and see is really good news, I think.

[B]

Yeah, I've kind of noticed that just with everything going on, seeing some of those bets, it's like, I do love betting on, you know, player to come catch a pass on this drive or player to have X amount of yards on this drive. But those are some of the bets that are just like completely unnecessary.

[E]

You.

[B]

You, you truly don't need them. They, they do damn near just set you up to get you back in there on the app. But there, there's plenty of those and those are like the common ones. There's a bunch of other, you know, more uncommon ones that they're just pointless. You really don't need them.

[A]

Yeah, I, I like they're playing defense. AJ like when Adam Silver said, I'm saying talking to the sportsbooks partners to see if we can get rid of things, I'm like, oh, I like that you guys are trying. You know what I mean? A.J.

[E]

Yeah, I mean, you have to like, that's just the one thing that could really, truly hurt the NFL or NBA or any like these franchise. Like, yeah, we have to believe, we have to know that they're legit and it's real and they're not sitting there manipulating games and things like that. That is like, what other. What's another threat to the NFL than This than if they feel like hey, we actually have players throwing games.

[A]

Here's some more details. Inherently object objectionable markets or bets that are inherently or designed to be derogatory or inflammatory or otherwise based on subject matter against public policy. Player injuries, fan safety misconduct. Okay. Officiating related markets or bets based on officials or officiating assignments, penalties, replays. Okay. I don't think any of these are on any.

[B]

Nope. Yeah.

[A]

Actual sports books. These are all offshore accounts determinable by one person in one play based on outcomes 100% determinable by one person. One plate example, kicker to miss field goal attempt, quarterback's first pass to be incomplete, etc. These are what we're speaking of this. I don't know why they even put those first. 2. Those are for offshore accounts. Yeah, offshore accounts aren't going to listen. Go ahead. Bruce, do you have an update on that?

[C]

They could be potentially trying to get ahead of the sort of prediction market stuff as well.

[A]

All the poly market now getting into this where it's yes, no basically type.

[F]

Stock and for super bowl stuff you. You can bet on like how many penalties there will be stuff like that.

[A]

And that's controllable by one person or one group of people. I guess. So like that's an interesting thing. Predetermined. Predetermined outcomes directly related to on field competition. Example, will quarterback start this week? Will teams first play from scrimmage be a run or pass? This does feel like the prediction markets kind of getting ahead of it on what's possible on those versus what's possible in sports books. Because the prediction market world is obviously going to be the brand new thing here over the next three years. I think two, three years. It's awesome. From what we have seen, there's certainly some downfalls. There's certainly some downfalls but like just being able to kind of try to predict something and it's viewed as a stock as opposed to a bet. So like you get in when nobody else thinks something's going to happen. Yes, no wise and then you. You can pay, you cash out. You don't even have to like when everybody else starts feeling your way. So you can like ride how you think like the public's gonna feel. It's a very interesting. You're talking about talking about everything reality TV shows, all this type of. So it's a. It's a fascinating new world that's about to come that I think a lot of people are going to be interested in personally just strictly because whenever I was showing It. I was like, oh, this is awesome. Yeah, this is sweet. And it's not a lot. You don't need to be better. Like, it's. I don't know, it's just like fun. It's like, you know, you just. Just kind of. If you're invest. It's like, let's do this. So them getting ahead of that's very smart. Yeah, that's a very smart. Because everybody's going to be doing it.

[C]

I think, without a doubt. And like you said, I mean, you know, like, we'll see what this evolves into. But like, something needed to be done right now, too. They couldn't really afford to because the NFL's. I mean, outside of a couple of guys last year, like, coming off what happened in the NBA and everything, like, something needed to be done immediately.

[A]

Yeah. Hopefully all leagues are doing this. Speaking of all the leagues, Cy Young winner, Paul Skaines.

[C]

Hey, Paul.

[B]

Good work, Paul.

[A]

Proud of you, Paul. Hey. He was happy. See that?

[E]

He was. Huge reaction. I know. I saw.

[A]

Yeah. He won Rookie of the Year. No reaction. Wins his first S. Here's Rookie of the Year. He did it. Yep, I did. Thank you so much, Livy.

[B]

Awesome.

[A]

Livy's been here, obviously, a long time. Side of me this entire time, literally, they chatted with us during that first year, first run. Hey, what are you guys hobbies? We just kind of nap and do baseball. Yeah, we just kind of. We just kind of nap and do baseball. Man, this guy's fully committed. And then he went Cy Young last night. And big smile. Yes. Double fist. Yeah. Hugs, Livy. Thank you. Love you. Thank you, Mom. Hell, yeah, we did it. We're happy. Everybody's clapping. Look, everybody's clapping. We're happy. Okay. We did it. And on that note, that's what Paul Skeens loves. Paul Skeens wants all the cameras.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

He wants all the lights on him. He wants the microphone literally as loud as a can out of his mouth. That's all he cares about. And it's amazing that he's able to win a Cy Young when all he cares about is all the glitz and glamour that come alongside being the best pitcher in baseball. This guy is outrageous. They've called it since he was at lsu, I assume the LSU people would say. Actually, we called it since the Air Force whenever we saw him. Very newer pitchers. He wasn't pitching his entire life. He was a catcher. So he actually has a relatively young arm in the grand scheme of the conversation of pitchers because of the reps. That he missed whenever he was younger where all these other guys have been pitching since their little kids basically. So he's only getting better and better seemingly. And the way he's talking about the Pittsburgh Pirates. Fucking nobody talks about the Pittsburgh Pirates. Yeah. Ty, what are your thoughts on him when the Cy Young and was this obvious? I guess in your guys's world, I mean he. And what is the Cy Young?

[C]

He was the best, best pitcher in your respective league and he was a unanimous winner.

[B]

So.

[C]

Yeah, I mean like his stats, or I guess I shouldn't say his stats. His stats were unbelievable. Shitload of strikeouts, very low era. But kind of the thing we talked about all year with him is, you know, usually the guy who wins the Cy Young is winning 20 to 25, five games and what digs he went 8, 9, 10, 10 and 10. So I mean he just like, yeah, Connor's got the stats right here. I mean he first guy since 1918 to post a sub 2er with a non winning record. Which is kind of what you know, if, if you're a Pirates fan, it makes you sick to your stomach because this guy just had one of the best seasons in, you know, a hundred years and they didn't come anywhere close to making the playoffs. And that's, that's the big thing with him too is coming off lsu, it's like you want to see. Because his stuff is unbelievable. You want to see this guy pitching in the playoffs and in the biggest moments so hopefully they can do a little bit more to help him because he is. It's very rare you got a guy. I mean obviously anything can happen, but every time he pitches, it's like you feel like he's going to strike out 10 guys and not give up any runs and you're going to win the game.

[A]

Yeah, he'll have a bad inning against the team and that entire team. Team's fan base will talk that that is who Paul Skeens is. Yeah, he has a bad game. Everybody is seizing the opportunity to say because every other game, far and few between since he got here. Yeah, it's just been dominant in the Pittsburgh Pirates. Let's go to one of their biggest fans, AP Tone. Are they going to invest in maybe in some wood, get this guy to the playoffs because God damn, it'd be nice to see this guy in a big game and PNC park in a big game atmosphere would be electrified.

[F]

It's the best I was there in 2014, the wild card. It was awesome. No, they won't. I mean.

[B]

No, but they're going to get a haul from the Boston Red Sox. And that's the coolest part about it too, is that the other side, young Tarek Skubal from Detroit, he's also rumored to be going to Boston. So at least in the end it is awesome news that both of the best pitchers in baseball will be be rewarded with massive contracts in a real baseball town.

[A]

And by it for the Boston Red Sox.

[B]

Look, I'm just.

[A]

Who's rumoring these things? You?

[B]

No, Buster only was the one rumoring Tarek Scubal. And with Paul sk. That is based solely on the fact that he knows Fenway Park's greatest baseball stadium in America. And he looked at the whole entire. I mean the. When he actually went and pitched against.

[A]

Walked around.

[E]

He walked around and looked at the. The Green Giant comments that he wants to be there.

[B]

So you didn't hear.

[F]

You didn't hear the audio from that? He said, boy, look at this hole.

[B]

What? I didn't hear that.

[A]

Yeah. Is that what he said? Did he say, wow, they really talk about this in such high regard.

[B]

Yeah, right.

[A]

Is that what he was saying? Yeah.

[F]

And he was like, look at this piece of gumpy.

[A]

Actually rented the apartment on top of that thing for what, three, four days.

[B]

Straight there we're putting Skino right next to him because SK's just walking around. He's not. Maybe he's saying that, but he also also said like, well, it doesn't smell like poop, like Pittsburgh dead bodies. And wow, this is incredible. And look, I'm just telling you what I. What's being talked about in baseball right now.

[A]

Yeah, I bet they are talking about that Paul Skeen said I'm ready to be the guy that turns around the Pirates. And we love them.

[F]

Maybe school will come to buckos.

[A]

Maybe. Maybe we do pay school because what The Tigers were $100 million.

[C]

They need to bone up and go pay the.

[A]

The polar bear.

[C]

You know, hey, Alonzo, give Pete Alonzo $250 million over the next five years and let this guy hit 50 homers next year. Okay. That's what they need to do.

[A]

Okay. I don't. Is DH happen for the Pirates both leagues.

[C]

Yeah, but listen, polar bear. I. I don't know who was available to is get both. And you have.

[B]

And, but.

[C]

And here's the thing.

[A]

Hold on. We got Schwarbo and a polar. Polar bear and Paul schemes.

[C]

You have to spend about $500 million this off season at least. Yes. You could go get both those guys right now.

[A]

He doesn't have seven springs anymore to.

[F]

Go get $500 million, but he sold it for 125. So we get one of those guys.

[B]

Guess where those two are rumored to be going?

[A]

Yeah, where's that?

[B]

Shoreboard wants to come home. He was already with the Red Sox. He wants to come home. And Polar Bear, I guess, said, I'm shipping up to Boston.

[A]

I didn't hear him say that.

[F]

Fortunately, I saw a report yesterday that Skeens was telling everybody he wants to go to the Yankees.

[A]

So that's tough saying that he's just hanging out, walking around the reports that.

[F]

Yeah, that's exactly.

[C]

A couple teammates have heard. SK Is walking around the club. Oh, I play for the Yankees. I. I won't die. I won't entertain that yet. I won't dive into it. But I saw and I just said, yeah, it makes sense. We're right on track here. Yep. Just a couple more years.

[E]

A couple more years.

[C]

We had to do the same thing with Garrett Cole, you know, if he.

[A]

Was a New York Yankee.

[C]

Best pitching staff in the history. Yeah, I can't. Which is why I can't even. I can't even entertain it yet.

[B]

We're.

[C]

We're two head. We're two years ahead of schedule right now. We just got to buy our time.

[A]

Wait, he's going to win another Cy Younger?

[C]

Exactly. Exactly. And then.

[B]

Boop.

[C]

I can't wait to see him hold up that Yankees jersey at the. At the press conference.

[B]

$800 million.

[C]

Yeah. Again, that's. That's. We're talking two, three years from now, but it's gonna be special.

[A]

There was some positive reporting today about the Pirates. Mark Finned reported that there's a team.

[C]

That might be a surprise spender this off season, and it.

[A]

It was the Pirates that he was talking about. Wow. Pirates general manager Ben Charrington.

[C]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[A]

Yep. It's all right. Ben Charrington made it clear this week that he has no plans to trade no newly crowned Cy Young Award winner Paul Skeens this offseason. In fact, this offseason, Pittsburgh's looking to take things in the other direction. According to sources, the Pirates plan to be spenders on the free agent market, something they haven't done ever. The left side of the infield, in the corner outfield spots seem like the most obvious places for the Pirates to target through the. Though the club hasn't signed a free agent hitter to a multi year deal since 2015 when they gave John Jasser to you $8 million contract.

[C]

Hey, John Jasso was actually a decent ball player.

[F]

That was the play.

[C]

He was, yeah.

[A]

Two years, 8 million.

[C]

He's a good utility guy. 30 to 40 million projected in payroll for 20, 26.

[A]

How much are you guys paying?

[B]

So they just.

[A]

Why do they say they're surprise spenders if they're going to spend 30 million?

[C]

Because they're not going negative, I think is the surprise.

[A]

So that they're spending it all is a surprise. Not that they're going to be like a surprise contest offender for anybody worth a. Okay, we just gotta clarify something.

[F]

Hey, what did I tell you yesterday? Two days ago.

[A]

A lot of things done.

[F]

You can't take anything that man says behind the glass when it's related to baseball and the Yankees seriously at all.

[A]

Okay, you're right. He's super biased with the information that he provides it, when he provides it. I was talking about the Pirates. Yeah, but we know what you were doing.

[D]

Yeah, you were shilling for the organization.

[A]

You wanted us to read that. So he would say they're going to spend 8 million bucks over the next two years. That was a long play by you to say how much the Yankees pay their highest paid guy a year.

[C]

What judge is making 40? 50? Yeah, close. Yeah. Somewhere around there.

[A]

50 million a year? One player now he's superhuman.

[C]

Yeah, we got a couple guys that are making.

[B]

How much Cold. How much is Gary Coleman?

[C]

I think he's like 34, 35 maybe.

[A]

Okay, it's 35 million. It's 50 million. 85 million.

[C]

Is there Stanton? I mean, how much do you want?

[B]

Yeah. 30, 40.

[C]

Yeah. Mike. John, for the artist formerly known as Mike Stanton.

[A]

He's 40.

[C]

I don't know if he's that much, but he's making a lot. He's making a lot.

[A]

He's making 30. The Pittsburgh Pirates expected payroll is to.

[F]

Be what it was 90 last year.

[B]

So you gotta come 30 to 40 in.

[A]

In.

[B]

They're gonna pay for an offseason spend.

[A]

Yeah, an offseason spend.

[F]

Oh, they're not the last, by the way.

[E]

So they're going to be like 100 and something.

[F]

Everybody know that they're not last. They're not even second to last.

[A]

What are we?

[F]

Or third? Probably third.

[A]

Or who's the last?

[F]

The A's spend less and their fans.

[A]

Were protesting them even existing. Right?

[B]

What?

[A]

That kind of thing.

[C]

They're going to Vegas.

[A]

Yeah, they're leaving Time.

[B]

Rocky, Rockies and White. Right. You guys might not even be third one.

[F]

Thank you.

[B]

Before. So I.

[A]

All right, they got Cy Youngs, last.

[F]

Is the Washington Nationals. Followed by the Miami Marlins, Cincinnati Reds, Cleveland Guardians and then the Pittsburgh Pirates.

[A]

So Guardians somehow get in there? Yeah, they do somehow.

[F]

Manager of the year.

[A]

Back to back seasons. Hey, your team doesn't pay to anybody. And you guys win, you're good. Let's give you an award. Can't give it to Roberts. He won the thing back to back years.

[F]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

He's gonna do it again.

[F]

Good chance they got a bunch of salary. It's none of their players that contributed.

[D]

Red Sox get scuba.

[B]

Look out.

[C]

There you go.

[A]

Unless the Pirates Paul skins, we got sigh younger 10 games a year.

[F]

Tara Jones, Bubba Chandler come back.

[D]

Oh boy.

[F]

Watch out boys.

[A]

Honda boys all the way back.

[F]

Three of them.

[A]

They all got hurt.

[F]

One of them did.

[A]

Okay. Might be a little bit too much on the no boy's arms. We're electrifying for your team and our team. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're in this thing together. See you guys tomorrow. I'll be in Acreshire.

[B]

Hell yeah.

[C]

Hell yeah.

[F]

Dinosaur.

[A]

It's gonna be hard not to call this place Hines all.

[F]

You should just do it.

[A]

It's fucking immense field right here. They said they weren't gonna get rid of the ketchup bottle. They fucking did. Kind of like we said it would.

[B]

Yeah, like Joe, put that thing back.

[A]

No, Remember there was a whole song of dance. I don't think it's back up there. Remember they were walking it down the street and taking it in the corner.

[B]

Yeah, they were.

[A]

They're like, it's actually staying. They're gonna put it back in Acresher was like, who said that we paid for the whole fucking thing? Yeah, it's a problem. You just gonna put the ex. You're gonna put your ex girlfriend up here?

[F]

There's an Acer location right next to my house. I egg it every time I go by.

[A]

They invest a lot of money in the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[F]

Yeah, well, I don't care.

[A]

Who do you think buying food? I believe it's a Michigan based company. So basically Michigan owns the Pittsburgh Steelers.

[B]

Oh, it's crazy because Fenway owns the Pittsburgh. So that's cool.

[A]

Does Fenway still own the Penguins?

[B]

I don't know.

[F]

It's the worst ownership group of all time.

[B]

Even though the Pens are in first.

[F]

They just tried to buy a Spanish soccer team, but they backed out at the very end.

[A]

Yeah, it's because they need to get a player for Penguins.

[B]

And they saw what J.J. w. Was doing. They're like, why The.

[E]

Would we do that?

[A]

Yeah, especially that sp. In the morning we drink coffee. Another no for Espanol. Do they suck or are they still good?

[F]

They lost to Villareal. 2 nothing.

[A]

International break right now.

[D]

Burnley.

[A]

International break.

[F]

Burnley also lost 32 to West Ham.

[B]

Can't lose the house.

[F]

They're getting close to the relegation zone once again.

[A]

Going back down? No, they're not there right now, but.

[F]

West Ham was right below him. So it was a game they really couldn't lose. And they lost.

[D]

I thought they were top of the table.

[A]

I thought Champions League.

[F]

Were thinking for Espanol.

[A]

Burnley, not so much. Wednesday night soccer from J.J. watt would be awesome.

[B]

Oh, they're good.

[A]

They're very close. What is it? The bottom three are gone, right?

[F]

Yes, sir. So West Ham beat them last game. 3:2.

[A]

So. Oh, we're in a relegation zone.

[B]

They're treading water.

[E]

How many games left?

[F]

27.

[A]

What?

[C]

Oh, Jesus Christ.

[A]

Together. Have a good one. Tonight. We're all on the New England Patriots. Mice. 12 and a half. We love you. Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. And, hey, we're just trying to do it right.

[C]

Hell, yeah.

[B]

Hell, yeah.

[E]

Yep.

[A]

I think we're doing okay.

[C]

All right.

[F]

Not. You're right.

[A]

Not everything they said in the microphone necessarily reflects the opinions of the peers. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three.

[B]

Team.

[A]

Good boy.