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PMS 2.0 1459 - BA Day with Bruce Arians, MNF Recap, Dan Orlovsky, Theo Von, Will Compton, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the ThunderDome. On this BA Day. Tuesday, November 25, 2025. This sports program begins now. Football is magical. That, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who coached football for 47 years. That's our coach, Coach B.A. the Super bowl champ here. The toxic tables here at Boston, Connor and at Ty Schmidt, nine year NFL vet, host of Everything db, Good D, Bad D. And the NFL Matchup show, which you can see on espn. Darius Tree, baller. And live from Hammer is AP Town. Now, Tone, I have a question for you, pal. Because last night's Monday Night Football matchup featured two teams in the nfc. One that was kind of on their way, potentially about to lead the NFC south and the Carolina Panthers. And the other was a team that we've seen in the Super Bowl. A team that we expect to be great, who's had tough injuries, obviously at a lot of key positions. But with Brock Purdy back kind of doing their thing, there was a chance that people would think, hey, maybe the Niners are going to kill the Carolina Panthers. And this morning I woke up, saw a tweet from before the game. ESPN bet. Still thing.
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B
Yeah, right.
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A
Still is. Still happening. Less than a week, by the way. Still a thing. They put out a tweet that was like 70% of the bets were on the Carolina Panthers to beat the San Francisco 49ers. And I, as somebody yesterday who picked Carolina Panthers plus seven and a half, had no idea that people were actually thinking the Carolina Panthers were going to win. If I would have known that particular stat from any of the sports books, I think I would have won a different way. Instead. Carolina Panthers defense does everything they possibly can. Brock Purdy has three interceptions early in that game. The Carolina offense just wasn't able to really get anything done. And Bryce had a couple of his own turnovers in entirety. And then inevitably, in the end, Christian McCaffrey continues to be Christian McCaffrey. George Kittle has a massive game and The San Francisco 49ers not only win, but cover on Monday Night Football. Now the Carolina Panthers questions are going to continue. Is Bryce a guy? Is Bryce not a guy? Can Bryce win? Can he not win? Are they a team that's sustainable for success? What are they? And how does he throw that pick? Does he not know the corners literally sitting there on first and goal. We can't be giving that away. The San Francisco 49ers. I think we're pumped about what Coach Sala being back with the Niners. He looked happy. Yeah. Remember, we saw him at the Jets. He lost his soul. Now he's back out there having the time of his life. Brant Boyer, special teams coordinator, he was with the jets for a long time as well. He's smiling on the sideline. Obviously, Shanahan has Brock doing his thing. But there was a conversation about the Panthers maybe being for real, and we thought last night they were going to be able to say that tone. Why did I not know that allegedly 70% of the people were picking the Carolina Panthers? Was this real? What was this?
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C
I did say research. So yesterday on our graphics or whatever, we had 62, 61% of the bets on the San Francisco 49ers because that's where we got our information from. I went, I double checked that information. 57% of the bets were on the San Francisco 49ers at the time of the game, based on our information. I checked a couple other places around 54, 55% on the San Francisco 49ers at the time of the game. I went and I reached out to some people. So there are 10 people still using ESPN BET. Seven of them are a group of friends out of Carolina. They said, you know what? Panthers tonight, that's our.
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That's tonight's $150,000.
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D
So.
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C
So a group of friends in Carolina put on the Panthers last night on ESPN bet. Three other people, just random people still using it who are just living in the dark, went on the niners. So that 70% on ESPN bet was true. There's just only 10 people still using it. So it was like not a lot of information.
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Still, you said. I think that was kind of the problem for the entirety of it all. But ESPN putting that stat out this morning was a little alarming to me because if I would have known that was the case, I'd been like, okay, we're guaranteeing that the Niners win. Now, obviously there's other stats coming out to say the Niners were getting a majority of the bets, which would make sense. D. But your takeaway from last night's game, Brock has obviously a terrible start. I mean, there was a couple that were just not good at all. Obviously, if the Carolina Panthers are going to beat the Niners, you're going to have to turn the ball over. Like that is what you're going to have to do. They did that. Never really able to take advantage of it. This Niners defense, even without Warner and Bosa, two of their highest paid, maybe best players in all of football, they seemingly are still able to be very Stout defense. What's your takeaway about the NERs and can they go on a run without Warner in bosa in its entirety?
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I think they can go on a run. I'm a little concerned about Brock Purdy. I don't know, it seems like since coming back and he never had the strongest arms. I don't really see the juice in the arm or in his ball. That second interception JC home was pretty terrible. The first one I think was a great play by jc so kind of concerned about that. But this game kind of stunk for a while. Was some great defensive plays, some ball hawks, but I was one star and that was Christian McCaffrey like what he's doing this year, what he's doing for San Francisco 49ers, 31 touches last night, over 140 total yards, you know, now leading the league and carries in in receptions, which is unbelievable. Unreal stats. So he was the one kind of shining star on this night. T. Mac, he had a nice touchdown late in the game where you thought it could be a game but I wanted to see more from Bryce, wanted to see more from Brock and his offense. But C. Mac and then George Kittle obviously being and doing what George Kittle does, he was great as well. So it wasn't a great game but a big time win at the end of the day for the San Francisco 49ers to move to 8 and 4 now.
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Yeah, great win for them. Obviously Everything about Christian McCaffrey special, you can go through his, you know, family, heritage, you know, his dad professional athlete, mom professional athlete, I believe grandma, grandpa, professional athlete, I believe uncle is professional athlete. I believe great uncles and great aunts, Olympians. Whenever you talk about like a human being created in a lab.
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E
Yeah.
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A
Christian McCaffrey is one of those guys and has been since he's gotten into the league, since he got to Stanford. 3 year player at Stanford. They were watching, talking about his stats. He went to high school in Colorado. They did the years and then we saw him at Stanford and think he looks the exact same. His body looks the exact same. Was running the same exact way. Three years at Stanford, obviously turning punts. Then he goes Carolina Panthers. Then now he's over at San Francisco 49ers soon as he gets traded from the Carolina Panthers. And we didn't talk about it being a revenge game against Carolina Panthers which I don't know if he has any heat with them or not, but he's.
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F
Probably pretty happy to get out of there.
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Well and then as soon as he goes To San Fran. They make him the focal point of the offense.
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G
Yeah.
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And not just the focal point of the offense. He was throwing touchdowns, running touchdowns and catching touchdowns as soon as he got to the San Francisco 49ers. So you're talking about a perfect match. Now we're seeing him healthy. What do you think of The San Francisco 49ers team BA and Brock Purdy's turnovers? There's a bunch of Himbo stats here now with interceptions. Hembo put up a couple of stats together and a couple graphics together. Basically the NFL's average of interceptions is blue lines kind of going down as the season goes. Yeah. Or as the years go on. Brock Purdy 20, 24 Last year he saw. He won turn ball every morning. Anybody else, he's going directly up if you see that. And then there's another stat about his seven interceptions that he has here. Brock Purdy has thrown seven interceptions on 131 attempts this season, the average of which has traveled 19.3 yards down the field. So is it inaccuracy? Is it tough decisions? And what do you think about the Niners going forward and maybe getting Brock back on path?
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H
Yeah, I think. I think Kyle Shanahan is doing a great job, especially Robinsola with the defense. They call them the Young Niners now because nobody knows any names. They're all new guys and you know, to lose that many star players and still be up there, that's fantastic coaching job. I have big concerns with Brock Purdy. He does not have the strongest arm and as you see those interceptions at the 19 yard level because he's got that little blue ball and corners undercut him. Last night a couple that'd be super accurate and lead his guys all the. He has to be. He's in anticipation. Throw Peyton. He's not.
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No, I'm not saying he's Payton stronger. That was a style of throw that Peyton had. He's throwing that thing early before a guy turns around, he's throwing to a spot and they have repped that. I mean, I got a chance during the lockout to go watch some of the workouts that were happening at different like universities that Peyton was putting together and watching these wide receivers run the same route 50 straight times. Like, hey, we're going to do this 50 times a day. And we're not just talking about receivers. We're talking like Reggie Wayne Austin, we're talking about the goats. Hey, we need to be on the same exact page here. That's why sometimes if they were able to get the wide receiver rewrite it. Yeah, a little bit. It would mess up everything. But that was what Peyton did for his entire career. Like Peyton's going to throw it to an exact spot and that guy's going to get there. It's precision, it's anticipation and it's also repping and repping and repping. Do we think that maybe Purdy injury, maybe not as much reps with his guys or do you think he's off in his delivery of the anticipation balls?
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H
I think both the injury, the toe does affect you, but again, I'm going back to that arm. And these are the same receivers he's been playing with the last couple of years. You know, this is a different crew. Pearson, Juan Dennings, those guys are different than Ayuk and Debo and those guys. So I think they're asking more of him down the field and that can be dangerous.
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I hope Brock's able to figure it out because it was just a week ago where we were like, wait a minute, Brock Purdy's all the way back?
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Yeah.
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Then he runs in his Carolina Panthers defense, which I don't think anybody gives any credit to. Once again, we were kind of saying that all day yesterday. It's like, hey, I feel like we've covered this team a little bit closer because we've actually had a little bit of heat with this team because the way we've talked about them over the past, they're different than they were just a year ago. They're different than they were two years ago. And then last night it appeared as if the defense was ready. Yeah, defense was ready for the moment. Offense, not as much. Is that just running into a tough San Francisco Young Niners defense, You think con.
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It just doesn't make any sense. Rico Dowdell's kind of been there kind of bell cow these last few weeks and he gets six carries. I mean, I don't know what the hell we're doing. It's kind of reminded me of when GNT had two carries going up against the Denver Broncos and they started the second half the Carolina Panthers and right away Dowdle rips off a 15 yard run. So that didn't make any sense whatsoever to me. I mean, we talk about how important it is for quarterbacks to have a running game. A quarterback like Bryce Young who kind of needs that play action, granted, he has a play action on the goal line, can run the ball and basically walk it in and decides to just.
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First and goal here, man.
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Insane. Just, just ridiculous. So I don't know what. What the hell Carolina was doing. But personally, I have a lot more respect for Carolina. You tell me before the season starts that they go into San Fran in primetime and only lose 20 to 9. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of a victory as far as looking at Carolina as a whole. But, yeah, the Niners defense are still. Still flying around.
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Panthers being.500 too. I mean, they were one game. If they win that game, they take the lead in the NFC South.
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Yeah.
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Nobody would have expected that out of this Carolina Panthers team. I expected more out of them last night, though. I think I expected more of the Carolina Panthers just because I was excited for them. I assume Panthers fans and what's his name on the mic? Oh, about 150,000.
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Yeah.
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He's awesome.
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D
I have to find it.
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He got a little Bojangles check too.
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Yeah.
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Which I respect. And also did a Bojangles commercial and it wasn't corny. Nobody, like, didn't say this guy jumps short. He, like, got real views out of that. So hopefully Bojangles will give him another bag.
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I
Right.
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Because we need. Maybe they give him another 150,000. You know, maybe they give him so he can buy season tickets. You know, make sure he get himself a car and all the. And maybe buy the Carolina paints or something. I mean, that's what he needs, especially with the ability to turn it up. But I think sir, per. No, no. Luke Combs, also a mascot for the Carolina Panthers, he was on with the Mannings last night having a good time. I mean, they were. They were having a blast. We all were thinking that the Carolina were going to Panthers gonna have a good night. Instead, The San Francisco 49ers go back to exactly what we thought they could be. Christian McCaffrey tears it up. George Kittle has a massive night in the defense with Bob Salas flying around. Congrats to the Niners getting a huge win. We're very pumped for them going forward. Can they win a Super Bowl?
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I do not believe so.
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Can they win the Super Bowl?
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No.
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Can they win the Super Bowl?
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No.
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Can they win the Super Bowl?
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I'll say yes.
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Then let's go to hammer dot dot. Can the San Francisco 49ers win the Super Bowl?
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C
Absolutely not.
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A lot of negativity on this Tuesday.
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After Mike make us do.
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That's your fault.
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And that's your fault.
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Gotta be honest.
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And your fault. I like where your head's at. Why not? Why not?
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I mean, if you ask me if they could win their division, I'd say, absolutely, absolutely not. But if they can win the super bowl, hell yeah.
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Yeah. Because now we're putting them directly against the Rams, which would certainly be in the conversation if can they win a Super Bowl? Because literally yesterday we were saying, who's league? Ramsley. And then Brock throws three interceptions and the next day we're supposed to say, yeah, yeah, still do it again. And that's the Panthers defense. Panthers defense, good. Rams defense might be a little bit better. We shall see. Down the street.
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We're seeing, you know, we're seeing Nick Bolas up in the suite. Fred Warner still on crutches. Like when you go like, we've seen them lose Super Bowls with those guys on the field, so, you know, I can't see them.
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I mean, it's crazy. They even have eight wins with those guys off the field. Yeah. Like legitimately. It's insane. They're still 8 and 4 and not 6 and 6 or even worse.
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Yeah. I'm thankful this isn't a San Francisco 49ers season where they just kind of punt on the year, which has happened with them over the years, for whether it's an injury or just not playing well or injuries. So this year feels like they're in it. I believe in him still. I believe in Brock, too. He's just getting back. And Matt, never ever forget it. And maybe if Mac Jones has to step in there, he'll be able to do his thing. You know, we've had a coup. Different situations pop up here during this season. We haven't liked. Okay. We've had guys haw to it.
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Gross.
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We all agree that, nope, this cannot become a thing. Then it kind of has. This has kind of become a thing. More than we've seen. Ja' Mar Chase obviously apologizes to everybody except for Jalen Ramsey and his apology he puts out yesterday, nobody was very appreciative of that. But he put out an apology to the Steelers, to the fans, to his fans, to the Bengals fans, everybody but Jalen, basically. And I like that. That's Jalen Ramsey football. I think anytime he comes into a div, there's going to be some wide receiver he's going to get after. Nobody's happy with Jamar Chase's apology. Nobody's happy that Jamar Chase is spitting in people's face either. Because that's big time conversation. We had a college kid this past weekend do it at Colorado State. Quarterback, he's a quarterback from Colorado State, gets blocked and he spits in somebody's face. And then he Runs like a coward. Okay. I mean, that is.
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Oh.
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Yep. And then he gets out of there, obviously. So we would like to put an end and be on the side of like, hey, can't be spitting in each other's faces. Nope. That's a guaranteed fight. What we did not expect was there'd be some dong punching. We did not expect a big time dick punch. We did not expect a left hand to the kit in the middle of primetime football. Four plays left in the game, two plays before the kneel down. This thing's about all she wrote. Morgan, who was the NFC Player of the Week in Week 9 against the Green Bay packers, an absolute stud of a player for the Carolina Panthers safety punches Juwan Jennings right in the penis. I mean, we watch it in slow motion, multiple different angles. There is a conversation. I think he was trying to hit him in the gut. I think he was trying. Well, it was below the belt for sure. In the side angle that you see. It's hard not to think that somebody that's as athletic as he, as he wasn't trying to punch that guy right in the boss. Now, I grew up in the generation of ball tagging and ball tapping. If you were to be taking a photo in our era, in our generation, there's a chance, everybody, before that thing happens, somebody just sneaks it up, Boom. Right? So I'm not saying that I have not potentially bag tagged the guy. On that note, it's never been vicious and never been a fight. It's always been ha, ha ha. You know, I'm not the only one dong shots and spits in the face. What are our thoughts on where the current state of what is happening on a field is? And D butt. What do you think about this exchange with Juwan and Morey?
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E
I mean, I can't have it. They had a lot of heat kind of during the fourth quarter, even on that playoff. We got. Then we have the wide copy all 22 shot of what happened on that play. So Juwan Jennings kind of comes in late and hits more in the back. If this. Nope, this is the other play where Morick knocks him out. He kind of tries to leg whip him. So they got the heat. But actually a play before that, he comes in and hits him in the back. So. Which is kind of, you could say, a cheap shot. Absolutely. You're standing around. A power receiver comes and hits you from behind while you're not paying attention. Yeah, you may get him a little bit. That is a couple notches lower than a spit in the face. To me, like, you can never have the spitting in the face shit. I think all.
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A
Is that a cast on his hands?
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Dude, he's got it cast. So that's a little extra hard. The dick punching. That happens a little bit more. But this right here, all of it is bush league. I hate that it's kind of coming back. I don't know what's happening with this generation, but this has never been a thing. I know you coach for 47 years, you can probably count on one hand how many times you had to deal with, you know, somebody spitting in somebody's face.
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H
I don't think I ever did coaching. I mean, in. In my day, going back when I was a kid, you know, that didn't. Just didn't happen. The rest of that stuff just. Let's go fight. But. But this stuff has gotten totally out of hand. Sportsmanship has taken it to a whole.
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New low level, I think. So, like, I genuinely, you know, Morgan, we think is a great player. And Juwan Jennings, if you watch literally from the first snap, I think in until now, like the energy is different. I mean, he scores that to has. He does a gritty with a gear shift. And it was an incredible innovation to the gritty that I have not seen. I thought it was actually pretty spectacular. But Juwan Jennings is a guy who's going to hit. He's going to be around a pile, he's going to block. He's like a perfect San Francisco 49ers wide receiver. And his energy especially, I mean, look, I mean, it is. It was actually a pretty nasty. But his energy throughout the entire night is obviously one that would get under people's skin. Morgue. Incredible player in prime time. Boys, we can't be punching each other in the dicks. I just can't be happening. If this is a one o' clock game and there's 13 different games on.
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Let it fly. We're not going to be talking about it.
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We got. This cannot become what football. Football is now.
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The.
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The game that is starting to become. Obviously we are a game of integrity. We are a game of competitive stamina. We are a game of moxie. We are a game of talent and skill. But what some people are starting to say, seeing a lot of spitting faces and balls punching over there in football.
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G
It'S like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
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That's happening in your sport too. But we need to. We need to stop that in our sport. I don't think that become a thing. But the heat of the moment, obviously, guys get Pretty excited, especially with Joanna Moore. And there's been shots all game. Your team's about to lose by 11. This game's about over. One more final. To hell with this guy. We just need to get that thing in his stomach. We need to make sure that that is not in the. The kit in caboodle.
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Yeah. When you see the reaction from Jennings, you knew something like that had to happen before that that led to him reacting like that. And a lot of people who probably haven't been between the lines be like, oh, it's a violent game. It's a barbaric sport. Things like this probably always have. You always hear the stories about what happens on the bottom of piles and shit with fumbles. But, like, the dig punching all the even, like, cut blocks, like wide receivers, DBs. If we're 30 yards away from the play, like, don't. Don't cut block me. Like, I'm. I'm dropping my elbow in the back of your neck. Like, if you like. It's just certain things where you don't cross the line. You're not trying to intentionally hurt other players, professionals, their livelihood. So, I mean, I get Jennings reaction, but with the block that came before the punch, I also kind of understand morgue a little bit, too.
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A
Yeah. I mean, there's certainly a little bit of heat. Okay, let's just make sure we go on and continue having a great season.
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G
Season.
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A
And let's just make sure if we're casting up, we're punching in the helmet or the shoulder pads or let's just wait till afterwards, boys. We'll see each other in a tunnel. Let's just go ahead and make a circle like it's hockey and do your thing. But we love that the game is in a place that it is. We just can't be doing the bullshit. Okay. And I was a punter, so I don't need to be speaking for anybody. But I will say, as avid fan of the league, spitting in the face is just not something we can have. Like, and then dick punching cannot just become a normal, normal thing. Like, because you're seeing this Colorado State kid and there was another college kid earlier, it's like, do you think they naturally do that? If it wasn't for Jalen or something, I was like, no. Everything kind of falls in line with what the NFL is doing. We have to understand that. I think the NFL understands that this dude spitting and then running for his life afterwards, it's like, last night. That ain't football. Don't do that. Don't he's once again in the moment.
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F
But obviously that's not even like, a dirty hit or any. He's just. He's just like. If he decletes that guy and he's not looking, okay, sure, it's still not acceptable, but, like, that's. That's as bush league as it comes. It's like, what, you guy can't block you, so you're gonna spit in his face? That's why.
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A
And then Josh Allen said it during his jersey retirement in Wyoming. Something about it sucks to suck. Thank God I'm not a CSU Ram or something. And this guy does that on that same weekend. It's like, yeah, I agree. I'll tell you what. Count me out as a CSU person. I'm out on their entire team. And not that I was ever in, but that type of stuff is kind of how it gets. I don't like what they're saying about Josh Allen. Not at all.
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It's messed up. And I am a Patriots fan, and I would be the one to pile on with the Hailee Steinfeld, whatever the hell her name is, her fans. But what they're doing to him on the Internet is uncalled for. Because if he's ugly, what the hell am I? And I can't live in a world where Josh Allen is being called bad, mean things by these fans where they don't know anything about you.
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A
Josh Allen's a sweet boy.
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I
He's a nice guy. He comes on the show all the time and he says nice stuff. He's also a funny guy. He had the whole subway thing, and the passcode of the subway thing was 9,000, 696 because 6,000, 969 was too obvious.
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A
That's awesome.
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Why are these fans hating these people? His wife's fans don't know anything about Josh Allen. They can't just be running.
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A
I don't like it.
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Bumping their guns about them.
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And we need to start checking where these accounts are from.
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I
Yeah, we do.
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A
Yeah, we need to start checking where these accounts are from. I think we're able to do that. Now. We would like to let the Hailee Steinfeld fans know. Know that we are a fan of Haley Steinfeld. Now, I do not necessarily understand everything that she's been a part of. I wish I did know more about her because she is now a part of the football family. She's married to our mvp. But you guys need to know he's a good one.
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Oh, yeah.
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A
Hey, Josh is a good. This Is a good. This is a good one. 65 laser rocket arm hold the door for you. All the time cowboy rancher out there. They're saying some other things about him. Is like, has that been confirmed, or is it maybe the other way? Like. Yeah, yeah.
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So community note.
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A
Yeah, we need.
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I'm in the dark here.
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A
They're calling them ugly.
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I don't know what's going on.
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They're calling him a bad guy and ugly. That's what they're saying. I read a tweet had a lot of views.
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G
A lot.
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Six million views.
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A real views.
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A
Well, that's a whole nother conversation.
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Technical location.
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We need to start doing that more. Are these bots. But on that note, yeah, it's a shame whenever a beautiful woman ends up with an ugly piece of trash, basically, is what they said. And it was Josh Allen and her hitting her. The. The hats.
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The hat kiss.
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I'm like, can we not just be happy that these two superstars have found love in a hopeless place? Being super popular in a celebrity is not easy to find somebody when you're the MVP of the NFL. It's not easy to be in any relationship. Haley. I assume that throughout her journeys, it's been hard. Hey, this is good. We need to stop trying to tear this down. And we, like, let Josh Allen, though. I think you're handsome. You're not Riley Green, but I think you're handsome.
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F
No one is.
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Or Drake man.
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Drake man. Kind of does look like he's 17 years old. 18 years old.
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Yeah. He's just got that young flare, man.
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I know what you're talking about, and it is crazy that Tom Brady.
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I
Oh, yeah. No, I mean, talk about jawlines. I put his up against AJ Hawks.
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A
I'm not. We're not putting that tweet up. That was the tweet that I saw, though, and I don't like it.
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I
There's multiple of them. That's the problem, too. It's like. You see one and it's like, okay, fine. Even though the one has 6 million views. Fine, it's just one. Then you see a couple others with other. Multiple million views and say, this one's got 14.
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A
13.3 million views. Yeah, that cannot be. What? The way you're speaking about R. Mvp.
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E
It can't be real.
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F
That's not real. That's not the real world. You know, these. These. These people see blood in the water. You know what Josh Allen said many times how she's changed his life for the better? She always talks about how supportive he is. Of her career and all that kind of stuff. What do you want this guy to do? You want him to retire and become her butler?
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A
Butler?
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F
That ain't gonna happen.
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A
I think they're saying he needs to get plastic surgery on his face.
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F
Well, that ain't gonna happen.
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A
I don't like that at all.
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F
That ain't gonna happen because, you know, she does. She. You know what? She's. She's kissed many ugly guys in movies. Many.
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I
Pitch perfect three. Boom.
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F
You know, and I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna go out there and throw shade on other actors because that's not my.
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A
We don't want to call anybody.
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F
Yeah, exactly.
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A
We just don't like that R. MVP is being talked about.
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F
The week guy plays football, he's had his nose broken about 150 times. What do you want from him? Okay. Maybe he doesn't have the picturesque.
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I
Perfect for face.
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F
He's a pretty. He's a pretty good looking guy.
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A
Not Riley Green again.
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I
Or Drake Matt.
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F
Nobody is. That mustache.
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A
Oh, my God. His accent.
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F
Yeah. The way he throws a football.
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A
Oh, guitar.
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F
Yeah.
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B
We can't be.
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F
We can't.
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B
We can't.
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A
Riley Green's the one. He is right now. Don't throw Riley Green in there because.
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I
What happens if these Haley heads haven't even seen Riley Green? Then they look him up and they're like.
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A
Exactly. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.
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I
We can't. We can't be throwing those two in the same category.
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A
Joining us now is a man who's just as handsome as Riley Green, Dan Orlovsky. Ye. Good to see you, Dano. Thank you for joining us. Got your Playboy. What is the. You always wear these? Bunny. What is bod bunny?
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D
Psycho bunny.
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F
The hell's that?
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A
That's lit, dude. That's super lit.
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F
Thank you.
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A
What is that? That's a brand.
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D
It's a clothing company.
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A
Hell yeah, dude, it looks super cool. Can you show that again? See the crossbones at the bottom?
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I
Yeah.
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F
Appropriate.
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A
No. Because it's a killer bunny.
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F
Yeah, that's not very appropriate.
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A
Well, it's got rabies, actually. This bunny's got rabies.
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B
Okay.
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A
They'll come and get you. That's why it's a killer. All right, Dan, let's talk about being a killer. Brock Purdy turning a ball over. Potentially a killer instead. They still win and cover. Please tell me the Carolina Panthers could have won that game. And also please tell me if the San Francisco 49ers, with how they are obviously a lot of missing pieces can go win the super bowl because. Because BA Said no. D, but said no. Ty said no. Tone said no. Connor's the only one who said maybe. And I think the reason is we saw the Rams play, and then we see the Niners play. Rams seemingly on a different planet than everybody else in the NFC at this exact moment. Niners, can they keep up? And what do you think about Brock going forward?
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I
Yeah.
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D
Rams not on a planet. A different planet than everybody else. I would be absolutely shocked if the NFC rep is in la, Seattle or Philly, and more than likely one of those NFC west teams. I do not think that San Francisco can win the Super Bowl. I just don't think they have enough. Enough healthy bodies on defense in their front seven. So, Brock, I would tell you that if you look at the interceptions and why they happen, Brock has always been a player in his first couple years that you marveled at how early he threw the football, yet down the field, he had this almost like unrealistic anticipation where you're sitting there going, how can you cut that ball early or cut that ball from your hands so early down the field and still have it placed perfectly? The interceptions this season are far too often late. The anticipation is gone. And there's guys that don't have to play within a ton of anticipation. I heard coach talk about this. Stafford's one of them. Josh was certainly one early in his career. Patrick, like, because they've got these cannons for arms, Brock doesn't. And so he was playing at such a high level because he played so fast and the ball came out of his hands so much sooner than the. The route kind of established itself. Look, these clips, they're all three hitches. This offense is not built on three hitch throws. Coach knows this as well. As well as this offense is not built on three hitch throws. You get to the top of your drop, that ball's out of your hands. And if it's not, like, watch how many hitches he takes here. One, two, three, three and a half. And then it's. It's. So am I concerned? Well, yes, because that was the strength of his game. But also at the same time, it's something that he's shown that's not necessarily who he is, and it's absolutely correctable.
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A
Okay. And now the Carolina Panthers, they had a huge night ahead of them. Potentially, they would have took the lead in the NFC South. Now, granted, they're 6 and 6. They were 6 and 5 going in. Nobody could have expected this from the Carolina Panthers. We've actually Been following along pretty closely strictly because. Because we've kind of dogged the Panthers in the past. So Panthers fans, which there are still some remember just a couple years ago, there was like 500 fans in the stands for their final game. It felt like it was the worst. Obviously the biggest dumpster fire in the entire league is what Carolina felt like. Then they bring in Morgan, they bring in Canales. Tepper kind of goes a little bit more hands off, but also starts giving back to the community and kind of understanding his position. We've become big fans of this Panthers team. We've also become big fans of Bryce Young. Young, they get all his turnovers. They can't make anything happen out of. We saw T Max score touchdown. I'm happy the Irish got a chance to say hello to the primetime audience to score a touchdown. But what do we think about the Carolina Panthers? What do you think about Bryce Young, where he's at right now and maybe what the next couple steps look like for that team.
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D
Yeah, number one last night, the perimeter, the perimeter players did not match the physicality out of San Francisco. And that, that's really the story of the game. They didn't. I heard Boston Connor talk about Dowdo only had six carries. I think they had 40 snaps. They were terrible on third down. But if you watch the third downs, I don't see there's a lot of protection problem. I don't think there's a lot of schematic problem. They just physically got out toughed at the perimeter when it comes to ball downfield, middle of the route, physicality at the top of a route to win. So they just did not match that from San Francisco. The, the reality is this game came down to two plays for Carolina. The pick down on the one yard line. Inexcusable. Bryce has to see that defender.
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A
First and goal, Dan. First and goal.
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D
Shocked he threw it. I'm shocked.
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A
That's.
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D
That's just a backside defender. For some reason Bright does Bryce doesn't see him. He doesn't threaten the line. Just run, Bryce, run. Threaten. You're one on one with the defensive tackle out in space. And so I'm floored that he threw throws that football. I cannot defend. Just if he runs there, he's got a guy out in front. He's got an offensive lineman out in front. Just scream go, go, go, go, go. See that guy's waiting for him because he doesn't want to go downfield. Just scream go. So can't make that throw. And then there's a third and fourth down, I think it's the second quarter. It's third and goal from the four yard line. San Francisco shows all out pressure, he throws it to the perimeter and it's one on one on the perimeter and San Francisco makes the tackle. I didn't love that play call because what are we doing versus zero? We're just going to throw a swing screen. Especially with there's no pick, there's no traffic for that backer to run through and you can't obviously one yard line interception, third and goal. I'd love to see a ball go to Ted McMillan or T. Mac in that situation. So I'm disappointed with the lack of physicality by the perimeter players. Xavier Leggette, he's got a, he's got to earn the right to be on the field more. Jalen Coker, who I believe is an undrafted player, should not be playing more than Xavier Leggette, but they are because he's just not meeting what, what is expected out of him.
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A
Leguette's had a couple good weeks. Yeah, let's like earlier in the year knock it was pretty bad. It was like this guy's not a one or this guy is nowhere near a one. Then he had a couple big time weeks. Obviously had a catch last night, I think on the sideline and some other stuff. But to your point, he's not prevalent enough. Like I don't think any of us, we all go, we all talk about Irish use down there. Whenever we're talking about who the wide receiver is, we think about T. Mac, the kid out of Arizona who's former volleyball player. Some of his volleyball highlights are absurd, but they talk about him athletically just being a freak. And his catch radius is gigantic. Nobody even really talks about Leggett other than how sweet his accent is and that he eats squirrels. Correct. Right. That is kind of the conversation. Yeah.
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D
And, but, but and I'd also say this Pat, you know his game has to be physicality. He, he's not a burner. He's a big, thick, talented, structurally like sound dude. You should be a physical presence at the wide receiver position. If you watch San Francisco to both those guys, just push them around. Ted fought back a little bit. I did not feel that from Xavier Leggette. And so I'm walking away if I'm Carolina, I'm disappointed the way with the way that we played on the perimeter physically because we just did not match San Francisco.
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A
All right, enough about Monday night football. Week 12 was awesome. Saw a huge win by Chicago, which Obviously, in turn is a gigantic loss for the Pittsburgh Steelers, but we saw some from Caleb Williams that got us very excited. Go ahead. Debug.
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E
Yeah, actually a few weeks ago about Caleb Williams and where he was with the Ben Johnson and yard and you were optimistic about him. I think he's continuing to take those steps. What are your thoughts on Caleb Williams right now and how he's operating in this Ben Johnson offense and how you see it going forward?
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D
The coach will tell you exactly what he thinks of the player by the plays that he calls. And right now the playbook is wide open in Chicago and that's a total credit certainly to the quarterback. You want to run the football, great. You want to go hardball, play action out of the gun, great. They can get an empty and throw it on the goal line. And he's quick and decisive. I think the biggest thing for me d Butt out. Outside of that, what I'm just talking about is like the playbook is so wide open. They put a defensive tackle at fullback the other day and, and ran the football to them. They're running the football. They're going really good in play action. They're building plays in for the yards after catch. I believe they went double reverse. There's multiple screens. Here's empty on the goal line. But I think the one thing that Caleb has grown the most in in the last month in my eyes, is if the play is there. Quarterback run on fourth down. If the play is there, like the, if the play call is the right one versus the defense, I need you to play on time. Now if I design a play and number one is open, I need you to be fast and like that. This throws a perfect example of it. We're calling the play for this defense. We get it. I need you to play fast.
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E
That's the one I need you to play.
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D
Yeah, I need you to play quick on. And so I, I think that's where his greatest growth is, I would imagine as a coach. If you put call, play, call and you're anticipating something and you get it and the quarterback doesn't do what you're coached to do, I can't imagine how frustrating of for a coach that would be. He's not doing that anymore. And that's why I've kind of said he's really going from a problem solver or a problem creator to a problem solver. He's not really creating problems for himself anymore.
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A
Yesterday he was problem creating, you know, but creating was what he was drafted upon because he could make magic happen. You know, so then whenever he has that style of offense and then we have the turnover early in Chicago and it doesn't seem to go well. And Ben Johnson's this hard nosed guy, an accountability driven guy and Caleb is exactly who, you know, we've learned Caleb to kind of be. I thought they weren't going to gel, I thought they weren't going to mesh because he's very much a timing guy and just felt like personality wise and football wise, this, this couldn't be a worse fit for each other. And now it seems like they're perfect for each other. And now that Ben Johnson is seemingly building trust in Caleb, he's going to be able to do all the Jared Goff shit with him eventually, but also add Caleb shit in there. Is there like a way for Ben Johnson to add Caleb being Caleb into an offense or is that all off script stuff?
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D
Yeah, I think it's more off script. You'll see situational. You saw the fourth and one quarterback play. You could probably do more bootlegs eventually because getting him onto the perimeter, I think you could do a little bit more quarterback run down in the red zone. But the beauty of the offense is we can kind of create so much schematic advantage by the different looks that we can present to you that we can put you in doubt as a defense. And I just need the quarterback to consistently hit that open receiver again. That's kind of for me where his greatest growth is. And then I agree. I did not think they were going to gel this quickly and that was my concern then. Hey, defense wins reps too. They get paid.
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A
So.
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D
So if the defense does win the rep, we miss a block, we get covered up. Then you can go above and beyond some of those plus plays. That's a beautiful throw. It's on time. Caleb would not make that throw last year. Those past two clips that you have shown, Caleb would not make that throw last year. And so I think that right now Ben's very comfortable. And I would say this, this is one of the. There's probably four offensive lines that I truly trust right now in the NFC on the back stretch, going, making playoff runs. I think Dallas is one. I think LA is one. I absolutely say Chicago's one, which is shocking. I think there's a fourth one, my brain, maybe San Francisco. Yeah, yeah. And that's really the key here is Chicago's offensive lines become a strength.
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A
Yeah. And I like that. The Colts also in there, you know, hey, yeah, the Colts offensive line in there. We need to win A big game. But I do like that the offensive line is really the indicator on whether or not you're going to be able to win a Super Bowl. But also championship defenses I think too. So, you know, have to have qualifiers in its entirety. Chicago seemingly always going to have have a good defense even if the offense is the head coach driven position. So congrats to Caleb and congrats to Ben. The NFC north looks different all of a sudden. All of a sudden the Bears are for real. Caleb's going to break all their passing records within the next two years. Okay. For the Chicago Bears history.
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H
Okay.
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A
For the history of the Chicago Bears. He's going to have all of their records and they're just getting started. They got another 10 years up and to the right as Caleb and Ben because he's not going to get plucked away. Ben Johnson's going to be there. So that offense is going to be there. Good news for Caleb on the turnover. Potentially stopping unless they completely go to shite, which it doesn't look like. The Lions with Dan Campbell we assume are going to be good in this entirety. The packers we assume are going to be concerned. What's that?
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D
Lines are concerning. Their offensive line is not good enough right now.
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E
Going back the same old line.
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A
Are you saying this year or just like in general you don't know if they're going to be able to find again. Is it because Ben Johnson was kind of maybe covering up for their offense line or. And no. Ragnall is maybe the big problem with the Detroit Lions offensive line. Is it fixable or is that just you got to deal with it this season type thing?
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D
Yeah, I mean in the interior of their offensive line is a concern. It's not good enough. They will not win a Super bowl with the interior of their offensive line.
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H
Playing.
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D
Ragnow's a concern.
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I
Yeah.
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D
Ragnow starting to re with ugly head here. This is what I would say is you have a quarterback that. That when you protect him he could throw with anybody. But now the. The protection has fallen off. I would tell you I have no idea what the numbers and statistics and analytics. It looks like a bottom five, bottom seven pass protecting offensive line and no Laporta. No Laporta. Like when Jared got pressured it was Laporta. Where's Laporta? Where's Laporta? No Laporta with a bad pass protecting offensive line. As much as it like kills me to say. I just don't see it for defensive Detroit.
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A
All right, last question here. Let's stay in the NFC north. Go Ahead, Ty.
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F
Yeah, Dano. Last week before the Vikings played the packers, you basically said like, hey, J.J. mcCarthy, his mechanics, everything, it's not going to get fixed this year. But you know, they might be able to actually fix this over the, the course of the next, you know, off season. And he, he will develop after Sunday's game where he just looked like dog shite. Once again, where do we stand with JJ and do you think there's a chance that they don't even give him that opportunity and they cup bait before he can actually realize his full potential?
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D
Yeah, I don't think that the latter happens. I mean, this young man just hasn't played football. He's barely practiced football in the last two years. I think the biggest concern right now is you are watching paralysis by analysis. I mean, there's clips where he catches the ball in the shotgun and you can see him walking through drops of trying to think of what should I do with the football right now? What should I do? Let alone what should I do with the football. Football meaning it's almost like he's trying to think of what is, what are, what is the coaching point of a drop or a landmark or how many steps. I'm counting steps in my head. I'm counting what I should be doing with my left leg and my right leg or trying to think of what I should be doing with my left leg and my right leg rather than, okay, this is the defense, this is where I want to try to work and this is how I can manipulate somebody or how feel coverage. And so this is, is the. No, that's not the clip, but there's a clip where you can see him go left leg, right leg, left leg. And it's almost like he's walking through it in a walkthrough type of mannerism. He's just. There's definitely an overthinking right now. I understand it. He's in a stuck place and it's not a fun place to be as a quarterback. I don't think they give up on him. But because of the lack of performance and the lack of health and availability, there's no question you'll have to bring high end competition.
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A
Well, Max Brosmore is certainly going to do that. Yeah, this dude's a stud. He can spin it. From what I've been told, from the film study we've seen, but that's kind of been the conversation is that Kevin o' Connell can make anybody good. What's this guy's name? Who cares? Kevin o' Connell's the coach and the offense coordinator. If he can throw a football, he will be a good quarterback. Then when we talked to Kevin o' Connell down at owner's meetings, we said because they were looking for a quarterback, obviously they had moved on from Sam Darnold. Danny Dimes had left the building. Aaron Rodgers allegedly was interested in the job, but they seemingly passed on him or let him know they were going to pass. We asked Kevin o' Connor what you're looking for, and he said accuracy. So did we think JJ McCarthy was an accurate passer? Like, well, go ahead.
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D
I would say this, Pat. I think one of the things that I certainly did not think about and coach could probably speak to it better is the guys that Kevin's had a ton of success with, it's in part because they've had experience in the NFL. Like they mechanically have worked through some of the issues that maybe were a problem in their past. Kirk Cousins was a vet, Sam Darnold was a vet. Even some guys like Nick Mullins, who's had to play. He's been around the NFL for four, five, six years. And so this is, you know, Kevin OConnell's first time with a young, very young and certainly unproven player. And it just feels like the expectation of baseline performance for the. The coach and the play caller was here and where the player is, is really here. So I would probably pinpoint it on a lack of development to the point that is needed.
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A
Injury hurts that obviously. His rookie year, big conversation. Coach Ba, the author of a book called the Quarterback Whisper. That's what he's actually titled. Bruce Aran, 47 years in football, has coached every single quarterback that's basically ever played quarterback and all. So every quarterback that has gone into the hall of Fame, basically, you know quarterbacks inside and out. You know, the NFL in the league and how it operates in offense and everything like that, inside and out. When you hear about JJ McCarthy and how it's all going and the stories coming out, his leadership's great, his moxie is great. And then you hear these things like, well, he also calls himself nine when he's on the field and he's on demon time and he's got to control all that type of stuff. What are your thoughts? What would your messaging be to him? And have you ever had an experience like this with a young quarterback that maybe is struggling very, very, very hard early?
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H
Yeah, a couple of times. But yeah, the alter ego thing is it needs to be ap.
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A
What's that?
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H
Accurate passer.
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A
Okay.
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H
Not snot. You don't need snot, bubbles and tears, okay? You play quarterback, not linebacker, okay?
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A
We don't need all this.
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H
Just go fucking play quarterback and be relaxed and throw the damn ball to the right guy because you got the talent now. I go back his senior year. What, he throw 45 passes entire in fourth quarter his entire senior year.
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E
35.
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H
35. Yeah. I mean, that. That's. That's not NFL ready. Then you miss your rookie year. All right? So he has had no development as a pastor. And like, mechanically, you can't think about mechanics in the NFL. You got to be thinking about, where.
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A
The hell am I going with this.
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H
Ball in two point seconds?
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I
All right?
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H
This thing's got to go somewhere right there because of this. I don't think he's. He's missing all of that right now. First of all, how the hell do I get back there? How do I read it? Where's it going?
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A
And then also how do I throw it?
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H
Now he's thinking about how the hell to throw it. So it's like, that's bad combination, brother.
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A
Really bad. What would you say to him? You tell him, just fuck it. We gotta stop thinking about all this stuff. Or how would you do that? Ayahuasca, Maybe real.
- [43:36]
H
Just relax. Get rid of nine. First thing. Let's just get rid of nine.
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I
All right?
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H
And. And let's get JJ in there and play. Yes, you're a hell of a leader, but at Catabi, it's totally different when you're leading Michigan and you're leading the Minnesota Vikings.
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A
Yeah. The Michigan team could run 50 straight times on basically everybody because of who they had. Minnesota is not going to be able to do that. And Kevin. Well, they could.
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F
I guess they tried to.
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A
Yeah, they're going to have to. I don't think it's going to win in the NFL. But Kevin OConnell's entire offense is based on this guy. Processing, developing, knowing, and delivering quickly, just like Shanahan's offense.
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E
That's some good weapons.
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A
And that's why Justin Jefferson sitting out there, that is. Yeah. I mean, that's Hawkinson.
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I
Naylors, Jordan Mason. Oh, Darasaw paid left tackle.
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A
They were. They. They would have been the number one seed in the NFC last year. And then they decided, like, hey, this is what we're going to do. So there's a lot of pressure on him to develop, which I could see why he would overthink it. But you're saying we need to get rid of all of that.
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H
We got to wipe that slate clean and just go back to basics. Let's keep it as simple as possible. Pull every game where he's not thinking about everything.
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A
Last thought. Go ahead, Dano.
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D
Yeah, I think the thing coming out of school, jj, my one thing within him was he looks on a play by play basis like a player who's trying to be perfect all the time. I know what it says on paper, coach. I will do that perfectly. I will do exactly what the paper says. And I just don't think you can play at that level chasing perfection on a. On a play by play basis. I think to coach's point, like, dude, you just gotta go play, man, and stop trying to do everything flawlessly perfect by what the paper says, not only.
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A
On the field, but off the field. Well, here's press conferences. You hear the answers he's given. You see the way he acts his leads. It does feel like he's trying to be a movie character, NFL quarterback, you know? Yeah. Like, this is what I've heard you're supposed to be like, man, that's what I heard. You're supposed to be like, I think it's good, good intentions, you know, but I think it's a lot to kind of try to process as opposed to just being you're trying to be. I think you'll be able to figure it out. And I don't like.
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D
Can I ask coach Aaron the question?
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A
Man, it better not be about getting rid of nine. Okay.
- [45:45]
D
No, it's about the Eagles. It's about the Eagles, cuz.
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A
Okay, here we go.
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D
All right, so here, here's my complaint about the Eagles, coach. So one of the things I always loved about you and like in my, my thought was you didn't play around in the run game. You're like, I'm just trying to be efficient in my run game. Try to be in good down and distances. And oftentimes I was like, here comes duo. Here comes duo. Here comes duo underneath center duo. Philly doesn't do it enough. Phillies in the shotgun. The shotgun run drives me nuts. Do you agree with that? Like, can you explain to me and your thought the advantage of running from underneath the center at people with double teams in comparison to running today in the shotgun?
- [46:26]
H
Oh, yeah, definitely. You know, and you know where the big difference is, Dan? It's in your play action game when you are under center and you're taking a seven and maybe time it up to nine step drop on a bootleg. You can't do that in the shotgun. You know, it's going to be the five at the best. You're usually back there holding the damn ball waiting for that stuff to go down the field. But the running game, yeah, I'm an under center guy. I'd love to have that tail back behind me. And if the quarterback's injured a little bit, I don't mind the pistol. I put the kids in the pistol back in age 80s with the head, sprained ankles, you know, but we can still do everything we want to do. Go both directions. I agree with you totally on that shotgun running game.
- [47:04]
A
That's hilarious. When you thought of that back in the 80s, you said this backup quarterback ain't worth a. If we can stand you out there, we will do that with pistol, brother. Yeah, that's exactly what you said. Yeah. Without saying it. Dano, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. That's Daniel. Dan wanted to host his own show there. Eat up. More time has no idea. We got a living legend with.
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I
Come on.
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A
Ladies and gentlemen, this man might be an SEC father. At this point, I'm not 100% sure. One of the greatest comedians to ever exist. A human's brain cannot be any more epic than this man. Ladies and gentlemen, Theo Vaughn.
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Yeah, Theo.
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Hey, sorry, Dano just kept that thing going. Theo, I'm sorry about that.
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G
Oh, it's okay. He's probably just killing time. Probably trying to stay away from his wife, you know, I don't know. I mean, people, that's what my buddies do. They're always in their car. Cars like in their. Like in their yard, trying not to go inside or whatever.
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Dan's wife's a sweet lady. Theo's obviously saying that as well. Does not know her. She's a sweet lady and who knows? Yeah, yeah. Dan was sitting on the side of the road though there for a while and. Yep, yep. Yeah, we got a piece of the. Yeah, yeah. We're not getting into it, but let's talk a little bit about relationships. We see. We saw you on senior day at Vandy. We saw the video.
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G
Yeah.
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Can you tell me about your relationship with the Pavia family and Diego and his mom and everybody? Because I think this has been a big piece of Vandy story is not only bringing people in, but Nashville people becoming massive Vandy fans. Can you talk a little bit about it and what was senior day like?
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Yeah, I mean, you know the lore with me and his mom, you know, like, we made a bet one day on a game. Diego said if. If they want to get South Carolina that he would set me up on A date with his mom. And then. And they won. And so I was, you know, kind of getting fired up or whatever, or at least I was like, you know, taking care of myself better a little bit. And then. And then he said. Then he added to the date. He's like, but only if I get to go on a date with Tate McCray. And so we never could make that happen. So the date never really panned out. The date never made it. Right.
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You couldn't hold up to the bargain. Yeah, yeah. Got it. Yeah, Yeah.
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I couldn't get him a date with Tate McCray. She wouldn't answer my DMs, but I don't blame her. But anyway. Yeah, but I've just become friends with the family man. And he asked me last week, he's like, hey, will you walk out there with me on senior date day? Which was pretty cool. Yeah. The guy's just like, I don't know. He's an underdog. He's an under lion, actually. I don't know if they have under lions, but that's what that dude is, man. I like, he's like. He's the ultimate under animal. And he just. The whole group there, they got a whole group of guys, like, the light is on in them. It's just been an uplifting group. And I just started becoming friends with Diego during the summer, and then some of his roommates and, like. And now I just love being over there. It, like, adds so much joy to my life. So.
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So, yeah, Snoop Dogg became Snoop Lyon. So I think you can say underdog to under lion as well. I think that's a good play by you. That's that big brain that you're using for Diego, obviously, in Heisman chatter. We all hope. Yep, it's under there. We all hope that Diego gets an opportunity to go represent Vandy in New York City. I think he has certainly earned it. Let's talk about you and SEC football getting a chance to be around. Obviously, you're normally touring. I think during this time this year, you've gotten a chance to go experience the entirety of this college ball season. What are your thoughts? And. And I know you and Lane have gotten very tight as well. He's in the middle of, like, maybe one of the biggest stories in the last 10 years of college ball, because there's a lot of new rules that are about to be made because of Lane.
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G
Yeah, well, Lane is causing problems, and that's what he does. You know, that's part of, like, you know, he's. He likes to, you know, he likes to bring his own bumblebees wherever he goes. He's just that kind of guy, you know? Like, he likes to have an effect on things on the field and off. He's just an entertaining guy, man. I think he's probably one of the most entertaining and unique characters that's kind of existed in college football. I mean, he's on Twitter. He's, like, kind of, like, putting out little clues and, like, it's just like this. This scavenger hunt for his, like, imagination or whatever. You don't even know what you're doing after a while. You go on these rabbit holes and, like, then you're looking at, like, geolocations of where he was raised and stuff on, like. It's like. It gets pretty out there. So. Yeah. But going there was awesome. I hadn't gotten to go to a lot of these SEC places to see games, so I got to go to Ole Miss and the Grove. I mean, it stood up as, like, one of the best parties. Lane gave me his hotel room in the team hotel or whatever for the night, and so they even had, like, a charcuterie in there. A couple. Yeah, a couple night sausages or whatever. And so I got to have those couple of juice boxes, which I thought was kind of crazy that somebody would have. That's an adult coach or whatever.
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Yeah. Lane, who.
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G
Yeah. Who doesn't love a couple juice boxes or whatever before bed? But, yeah, so that was just like. That experience was. Was pretty unbelievable. But, yeah, we've gotten to go to. Been to Alabama, gotten to see a game there, and that's more like a pro. It feels like a pro environment there. Virginia Tech. That was amazing. That's probably one of the most choreographed fan bases with all of the people that are in the military that are enlistees that are there. So you have, like, all this, like, whole, like, storm of, like, humanity that's happening, like, while the game's going on. We went to South Carolina, lsu. We saw a game at. This year. We're going to go to Neyland this weekend. I already went to Neyland once, so. Yeah, man. Sorry to just be talking so much.
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No, this is why you're here. Yeah. Listen, if any. If you would come on our show and just talk for two hours, that'd be great for us. We would certainly take that. So you do and say whatever the hell you please. We're very thankful you're joining us. But have you always been a college ball fan, or are you kind of getting baptized by it this year, because I know you're from Louisiana, and obviously I've learned a lot about the people you grew up around. You know, I had a kid in neighborhood this. Had a guy in the neighborhood this up the street did this. I've learned about your neighborhood. Is it a big college football town? Are you a big college ball guy? Or is this the first year you're really diving in? And it's okay for either of those answers, by the way. I'm very new to the college ball world, and it is. Is epic. I'm a huge fan.
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G
Yeah, I think I'm. I mean, I've always been an LSU fan, and then I moved to Tennessee. So that, you know, has been kind of a new experience. But this year I think I've just had them. I've had the most free time to get involved, you know, and having a team like locally here that was starting to be a fun place to watch football, I think helped to really start. Change it, start to change it for me. I just start to. I think about how long. Think about the sec, right? Probably the most notorious conference in college football, at least. Probably in the past 25 years. And they. Vanderbilt has been at the bot. When you think about the fact that they're. They've been in that conference and just been, you know.
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Laughed at, bro. Laughed at. Coach Saban was on our show. Coach Saban doesn't talk shit about anybody. Coach Saban's on our show and is like, everywhere is difficult to play in the sec, all right? Except for Vanderbilt. That was literally what he said. That's how Vanderbilt was kind of viewed. It was like, Jay Cutler went there, but this team stinks. And then nil transfer portal Clark Lee comes in there, and that place is like, really bringing Nashville to life. I. I wouldn't say that, but bringing Nashville to a college football town, right? Wouldn't you say?
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G
Yeah, I mean, it's kind of. It's lightly popping, I would say. I mean, you know, like, some places they'll have like, the kiss cam at, like, halftime or whatever, and they have, like, the reading cam there. Like, they'll find people that are reading in the stands and stuff. So it's definitely like. It's a different energy, you know, so, you know, you have to, but you have to. It's baby steps, you know, I think it's been interesting to watch a fan base, and this is just the outsider's perspective, but to watch a fan base, like, they don't know what to do, like, when their team is Doing, you know what I'm saying? There's not a lot of cheers and chants built in. So you'll see at certain points of the season that they started teaching the fan base, like, different cheers and stuff. It's been pretty fascinating.
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Yeah, it certainly is. And college football fans are our best fans. I think we're the ones. They're the ones that we would put up against the hooligans in Europe. Whenever you're talking about best fans in the world for something, super, super passionate group of fans in college football, especially in the sec. Now, we only have a couple minutes left because Dan Orlovsky just ate it all up. But talking about passion, there's a lot of shit going around with your home state and also Lane.
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F
Yeah, Theo, given your connection and your ties to Louisiana, and I believe you went to school at LSU for a little bit, they kind of put all their eggs into, hey, we need to go hire Lane Kiffin. That is kind of the only option that we have. What do you think will ultimately happen if they don't hire a guy like that? Like, is Louisiana just going to crumble? Is there going to be mass chaos in the streets?
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And what should Lane do? One minute, Theo.
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G
If I'm laying, I think he's built something great over there at Ole Miss. It's exciting there. People are giving all they can. People are selling things that they Sacrificing antiques and stuff like that to be able to, like, donate to the the Grove initiative there. People are trying to get that nil money. People are selling family recipes to put money into that thing. I feel like he's pushed the cart all the way up the hill there. So to leave right now feels weird. It almost feels like it would be like when Saban left right before he started winning all, you know, just rattling off championships. But that's my thoughts. I don't know what lanes are. You know, he may have different. He has. He obviously has different ideas. I just can't. I don't know who he's trolling. That's the thing. And he's definitely trolling somebody. So I'm intrigued to see who it is, but I just think. It seems to me like he has such a great life over there that I think he should stay now. Would he be great at lsu? I think anybody would be great at LSU to. It just wasn't working out for Brian Kelly. There's a lot of good coaches that can be great there, so.
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All right, well, good luck to all of them. Theo, thank you for joining us. Can you talk to us next week?
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G
Yeah, dude, I would love to talk about something next week. And let's get freaking.
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A
I want to talk about how who's.
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G
Going to be in this playoffs, playboy.
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A
You got it. We'll join. Hey, we'll see you next week. You're the man. You're the greatest. Thank you for everything you've done for us by the way, over like the last last 20 years since real World Road rule. You're the best.
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H
Oh, great.
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G
Let me get some ice cream.
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Football.
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It is awesome. It's spectacular. It's stupendous. In the NFL just wrapped up its week 12 of its season. There was no from 47 year football coach coach BA.
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H
There was one.
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Sides. Yeah, that's on me. Talks to tables here at Boss Connor and at Ty Schmidt, nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here and live from Hammer, Don is AP Tone, who we're going to be visiting with here in just a few moments about what the College Football Playoff committee is going to do tonight and hopefully what the CFP chair is going to say afterwards. Now, I, on game day college football institution looked at the camera a couple times and told this Hunter character who is the new chair of the CFP committee, Hunter Yuricheck, who has been thrusted into the circumstances CFP chair position because Mack Rhodes, who's no longer athletic director at Baylor, is also no longer the chair of the cfp. That was a week ago. There's change. So Hunter Jureczyk was kind of put into this position. He's out of Arkansas. Guy from Utah gets put into the committee to kind of substitute the Big 12 athletic director loss from Baylor there. So they have a kind of a new operation, but 10 of the 12 pieces still in the exact same role that they have been in the entire time. This Hunter Yuricheck guy comes out after the CFP bracket is kind of laid out like, this is what we see it and how we see it. And this is the most important thing of the entire college football world. This thing on Tuesday. It's the one that matters. What happened this weekend? The games. Games, obviously, awesome. They set up for this particular group to decide who gets to start at 12 and try to count down to one. It's a big deal. So then whenever the CFP, we can't run it every day.
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Are you sure?
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I wish.
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What happened? Time.
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Are we sure we're not doing it right now?
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We're not doing right now because I got to make this point.
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Okay? Okay.
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We're allowed to say, hey, bud, you got to give better answers. Okay? The CFP committee is a big deal. This is very important. It is a lot of money invested, a lot of time, a lot of effort, a lot of people's lives. So whenever you guys are rolling out what your bracket is and the things and reasons why you're doing it, we just need a little transparency. We need a little bit of an answer because we're all covering it, talking about it and in love with it. So it's like that's a very important role. I think Hunter, maybe his first time out there filling in for Mack Rhodes, was scared to death. I think he was potentially scared to death this week. What we want to let Hunter know is, you know it. You got it.
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Come on now.
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There's a reason you're in that chair and go ahead and Give us information. You're allowed to do that. Live from Anakin, Ohio. He's a man who is an alumni of the number one team in the country. He's a college football national champion Super Bowl Champion Rider cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk.
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F
Yeah.
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Soccer. I know Ohio State fans don't care because the only thing that's on their mind is from that team from up north. It's a big one.
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H
True.
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J
It's a big week.
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How do we feel? You got to feel good. How many days has it been since you guys beat Michigan? Oh, something.
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F
Yeah.
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H
Oh, yeah.
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It's been years. Yeah. Years.
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A
Oh, my God. Because they've come into your house and. Holy God, is that live right now? Oh, my God. Bruce Brown now running computer. Computer is.
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Oh, yeah. You know, he had potted up real quick, old Bruce. I had it yesterday if we needed it, but got it today as well.
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H
Yeah.
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Happy you had that in the back. But that very quickly came up there. 2, 180. What's that?
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That's six years.
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Well, didn't they. You know, they bailed out one year, Covid. It didn't play. I believe that adds to it.
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Six years.
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Time didn't stop.
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It's four. Four straight games. I believe.
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Believe, right.
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I don't know. All I know is it's 2,187 days ago. We watched. I forgot. Aiden Hutchinson kind of started this entire thing, didn't he?
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He did.
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If I do recall in the snow.
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He'S on his second contract.
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Guys are worth $200 million. Holy shit. The Buckeyes, obviously a very proud group, a very tough group of people. They were saying to themselves, ryan Day just can't get it done. This guy needs to get the hell out of town. Loses in Michigan last year, wins the national championship. Ryan Day is not even allowed to celebrate him. That's cool, bub. It's been a couple thousand days since you beat Michigan. Let's go ahead and make sure we do that next year so we don't have to do this whole song and dance. Ryan Day feeling heat, team. Feeling heat. You think Ohio State understands that even though they've been the outright number one team in the country basically since week 1.1, after they beat Texas, they've been a number one team team. They've dominated everybody. They've shown really no weaknesses. They've shown really, no. Illinois scored some points on them. I guess that's the only thing you can really say other than that quarterback could win. Heisman wide receivers could be best Players in ball, I think they're back this weekend, which is a big deal. The defense is outrageous. Historically good special teams, we assume that is good as well. But they know that if they were to lose to Michigan, nobody would care about any of it.
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Right.
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In that kind of the entire conversation.
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Yeah, that's kind of, I think people outside of Ohio and Michigan, they, they don't completely understand. But yeah, you got to win this one.
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Absolutely.
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And that's. I think, I think that's the beautiful thing about rivalry week. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And we are in rivalry week right now. Let's head over to Hammer D time. All the rivals on Friday and Saturday, Tone. And there's some big ones out there. Shout out to college ball. Always delivering for us on this particular Thanksgiving holiday weekend. Cuz not only Thanksgiving's packed chocked full Friday, we got a Black Friday game as well. NFL and then also, yeah, we got full day Friday of rivalry games. Full day Saturday of rivalry games. What are the nightcaps? Well, after you watch the NFL game at 3:30 on prime, you can go ahead and watch Texas A and M in Texas. Okay, that's going to be huge. Arch Manning is playing his best ball. Texas is playing their best ball. Texas A and M has obviously been great all year. Marcel Reid might win the damn Heisman. Texas A and A and M under Elko to the moon. And then on Saturday. Yeah, just go ahead and kick back. You got game day kicking off from Ann Arbor at 9am Available on X and on ESPN once again. And then obviously at noon that game kicks off and then what's the nightcap? What's happening late at night? Alabama, Auburn. Okay. Which is going to be gigantic no matter how either team are playing in this thing. So whenever you talk about rivalry, you talk about special matchups. Tone, what are you thinking about? Whenever it comes to these two two days of outright great college ball, it.
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Is going to be awesome. And obviously, you know, as they say, rivalry week, you can throw out the record. You better buckle up the chin straps. There is no love lost for these matchups, obviously. But let's start at the Egg Bowl. Ole Miss and Mississippi State, they've been playing this one non stop since 1944. Obviously one of the grittiest rivalries in the SEC. And this is one. Ole Miss has won two straight. If they win three straight, they're gonna go to the playoffs. And tell you what, it's a big storyline for them going to the playoffs. But the bigger storyline may be the decision on Saturday that's coming after the.
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Game happening on game day. Do we know that? I thought that earlier.
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I was like, is Lane going to do it? Like, literally, is he going to go to that yoga class and then make the decision? Or how does that work?
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I genuinely don't know how that works out.
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I.
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Because they kept saying Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. And I assume it'll just be from, like, a release press conference.
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Didn't they say he's having a press conference? That's what I heard.
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Oh, man. That'd be cool if we had that press conference on game three.
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I mean, what time does he do? Yeah, either run it on game day, just have him come to game day, or do it there.
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He's focused on the egg bowl.
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Yeah, allegedly.
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Well, after the game is.
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Well, they're all focused on the egg bowl. That's why they push it to Saturday.
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Oh, yeah. I've completely turned. I know we love laying up here, so I'm going to bite my tongue, but what.
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H
What are you doing?
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Bite your tongue. What are you gonna say?
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This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever been. Ever seen or witnessed from.
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What do you mean?
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By far.
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What's he supposed to do?
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He's supposed to sign the damn contract. He's supposed to at least come out and say something. This is. This is more ridiculous than free my boy bk. And that's saying something.
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What is he supposed to do actually? What do you think he is actually supposed to do in the middle of college football?
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I don't know. I don't know what he's supposed to do, but I know there's not supposed to be some hoopla around it the entire. The entire year.
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I think Lane Kiffin, there's always going to be hoopla. But to your point, I think we should have had an answer by now. But, like, what if he actually has not had the opportunity to learn everything about potential decisions?
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J
Because what if they haven't offered him an extension yet? Have they? Do we know if they've offered him.
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An extension and he should leave, then he should leave. Exactly.
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Then.
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Then they have.
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But if he leaves, then what happens? Like, this is the best his teams have ever done.
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F
No, I agree. I'm just saying if the. If Ole Miss hasn't shown faith after what he's done this year and offered him a massive new contract extension. If they haven't done that yet, then if he leaves the fan base, can't say a damn thing.
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Theo said that they're selling family recipes to try to feed the. The Grove Collective. Grove Collective down There, he said they're selling off heirlooms and antiques to try to feed the nil, which might be a part of the problem. But on that note, it's like if the money is all the same, which we don't know if it is, we have no idea if it is. The difference would be the recruiting, I guess is the angle that everybody's talking about is like, in Louisiana, you got guys that just want to go to LSU who are going to be better football players than anybody around Ole Miss that just wants to go to Ole Miss. Florida, same exact thing. I guess there's Florida boys that want to go to Florida and have one to go to Florida since their parents went to Florida or their dad was a Florida fan or mom was a Florida fan or older brother played for Florida or teammate. Like anything there's this that happens, I guess is like the big selling pitch is like, hey, these two schools have your draft basically your recruiting pipeline taken care of. So whenever you want to do the transfer portal, which you're very good at, you don't have to necessarily rely on your whole team being transfer portal in every single year, because obviously that's a role that dice. We've seen Florida State go from literally penthouse to outhouse with one transfer portal class, and they still trying to get out of that whole thing. So I guess that's the advantage of the other side. But the other side of it is like, that city might be named after you, like Wayne Kiffin's Oxford.
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J
That's probably why it's a tough situation. That's probably why it's. He had like, he needs some time to figure this out. Like, hey, this is a giant opportunity I have no matter what I do. Like, yeah, give me a couple days, I guess.
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And we have the number six team in the country right now. Like, we are very good football team. This is the best team that I've ever had. We're going to the. I've never. Like, we are. This is the best chance that any of my teams that I've been a head coach have of going on a run right now. And all of a sudden he's put into a predicament where it's like, yeah, well, we need to find out if you want to go live in another place, what the recruiting is like in another place, what a transportal was like in another place. And oh, yeah, you got to do that before all this because the transportal placement really screws you over and it's whole thing. And I'm trying to be Mississippi State, they got the cowbells down there. It's very, very loud. That's all. Well, we don't care about that because if you're going to coach somewhere else, we don't even. We don't want you to be Mississippi State. We actually want you to be an ass coach, but it would be bad for us. Yeah, but you're gonna take all our players if you leave any. It's just. I don't know how you're supposed to. I genuinely don't know what the right answer is. And obviously I chat with Lane a little bit. I wouldn't. I don't think we're like Theo and Lane very close. Like, I think Theo and Lane is hotel.
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J
You said game is hotel room. Yeah.
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A
And his juice boxes. Yeah, juice boxes. A little apple juices up there.
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J
Charcuterie.
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H
Yeah.
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And they had good night sausages or whatever the case was. But yet, like, I think there's a lot of different angles this could go because I guess in old college ball theory, you would. You would know this. You get an opportunity to go coach at LSU or Florida. You go like that is kind of like old school college football. Thought is, I think is like the natural. Totally belief in it all. Like Virginia Tech and James Franklin, I. I thought was huge. Gigantic. Holy hell. Really big. Yeah, it's huge.
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Really big.
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And nobody expected Virginia Tech to, like, James Franklin's available. Oh, he must be going to Florida. Then maybe. Maybe James Franklin goes to Florida job or whatever. And then it's like, well, Florida's gonna wait for Lane. And then it's like, actually James Franklin and Virginia Tech and like Virginia Tech. And then all of a sudden we're like, well, BA's in there negotiating for this entire fucking thing. Can't tell us anything because he signed an NDA. He told us that 10 times. Get himself out of having to tell us anything. I think it was a good play by you because you're in front of a microphone every single week with us. But James Franklin going to Virginia Tech is not the normal move either. Like James Franklin, I think in this coaching cycle, highly sought after. You would assume he would go to a bigger job in theory. But it's like Virginia Tech is backing him. Virginia Tech financially behind him. Virginia Tech ready for it. James Franklin heard everything. He wanted to move. It's like if Lane hears everything from Ole Miss, it's like, hey, we're with you. We're in it. The only thing you're going to have to get. Get past is the recruiting and the Stress every single year that you're potentially gonna have to rebuild this thing. And it's like, well, how do you make that decision? I guess you go to a 6am yoga and you try to figure it out. Let's get back to Robert.
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Good luck.
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Good luck.
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Great spot.
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I mean, he's in a great spot, but inevitably he's gonna make a decision that's gonna piss off so many people.
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Oh, for sure.
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Staring at that.
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Even the other coaches. Because once that, he's the biggest domino. Once that fall, I'm sure he's getting calls from even other coaches like, hey, what you gonna do? Like, make a decision. Make a call. But so thank God he's doing the yoga and he's locked into his book and kind of standing it, you know, one day at a time, as much as he can. He has an agent, I'm sure that's handling all of that business. But it's a good spot to be in. It's hard. It's shit. He's getting ready for the biggest rivalry game, getting ready for a playoff. So it's tough for him.
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I mean, how would you know? Like, legitimately. We have been talking about Lane Kiffin for a month. We haven't really talked about the team. And I get. We've talked about Trinidad Win a dad and Lacey because he wheels them out behind him. But, like, we. We really haven't talked about the team. When the College Football Playoff.
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Good distraction.
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Great distraction. When the College Football Playoff comes out tonight. Guess what we're going to talk about when we see Ole Miss. His name up there. Well, is Lane going to be there? Like, I. I get it. I'm just done with it.
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You know what they're going to do tonight, too? They're definitely going to read that fourth clause.
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For sure.
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They're definitely going to read it. Let's make sure everybody kind of understands that. CFP commit, certainly deduct Ole Miss if they don't think Lane Kiffin is going to be coaching for him. It's right there in the bylaws. Yeah, hey, if you don't have Jordan Travis anymore, you cannot go. And then. Yeah. And then also, if you don't have Lane Kiffin, you can't get. We're allowed to say you can't go. It's in the bylaws. That's going to be a big talking point, which is then going to lead to the Ole Miss people going, yeah, we need to answer.
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If you're calling a press conference, like, okay, so do you know, because you Are calling a press conference to make it a bigger deal when you announce, or are you calling a press conference because then you're setting your own deadline in your head? That I got to know by then.
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I'm thinking that he did not make. Didn't want to make a decision. I'm thinking that there was a lot of people that probably wanted him to make a decision. That's why he wanted to come on and say, like, there's been no ultimatum made. Because I think he didn't want to have to think about. I would rather not think about it. The decision is made, I don't think.
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Which makes.
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I think he's. I don't think he's made his decision.
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Oh, you know him, obviously, I don't know him. I think the decision is made.
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Okay. And there's people that say, like, I know what's going to happen. And you could certainly say that this is Lane Kiff.
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And that's why, if you're an old Miss Fan, if you don't think the decision has been made yet, like, that terrifies you. Absolutely terrifies you. Because then, like, what happens in the Egg bowl could completely shift.
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What.
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Whatever the decision is.
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I mean, which definitely.
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I mean, you know, like. Yeah, it's like, because you lose that.
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Game and everybody wants to run you out of town.
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Make it easy.
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Yeah, but if he's planning on staying.
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Yeah, they better win by 45. Even if it's close.
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Maybe that's all it is. You lose. Hey, they're going to kick me out anyway. See, everyone? No one's mad. Hey, if we win, congrats, I signed an extension. Here we go.
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What do you say? One loss drops you out of the top 10. Two losses drops you out of the top 20. Three losses loses you your job.
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It's fine.
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That's what he said. So maybe he is thinking, like, let's. Can we just see what happens? I mean, this decision might get made by the Bulldogs here.
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Yeah.
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In the Egg Bowl. But also, I don't think he wanted to make a decision. I think he wanted to. I think, obviously he's repped by Jimmy Sexton and the Big Deluxe is certainly getting all the big numbers in the information. Like, if it was possible just. I haven't talked to Lane. Lane's focus on ball. But if it was to ha. What could it look like, you know, is what Jimmy's saying. So whenever you see these reports, sports, like LSU is gearing up to make a blah, blah, blah offer of Florida's making up. And they're like, why is he listening? It's like, it's not Lane that's calling him, saying, hey, so what would the negotiation this is. There's a man who's very good at his job. Oh, yeah, maybe goat. When it's all said and done, and he hasn't changed a lick since he was. I mean, he's the exact same big deluxe. I mean, this son of a. Is special. He is obviously a great businessman, which is why he has so much influence, which some people say, is that even legal? Is that even he. Is he.
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He to represent all of them, Represent a good chunk of coaches and some players, obviously, right?
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He's a weapon, you know, but when you. When you represent a bunch of coaches, everybody talks about like, well, he. He's able to kind of. It's like, well, you also got these guys, like pissed off at him if he's not doing his job. So he's been able to balance, basically, he's great business. Jimmy Sexton.
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The fact that you can balance all those big time head coaches and that, that is. Think how difficult that must be because they all want the jobs that are open.
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Jim, Jimmy Sexton's a dog, okay? He's absolutely dog. But people that think Lane Kiffin is reaching out to LSU or Florida and negotiating with him, he's like, that's not happening. Jimmy Sexton's saying, hey, if this guy who I also represent was to be your coach, what would it look like if Lane wanted to come? I'm not saying he does, but if he did want to come, what would that look like? And then I would assume after the egg boil, say I was after the egg bowl, Jimmy Sexton comes. Jimmy Sexton has a big platter and he says, here's basically all our options.
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Got three contracts for you.
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Here's what we're thinking. The governor, Jeff Landry, wanted you to know this. You can also go on gator hunt. He said, andrew, get all this stuff. Florida Governor DeSant, he's not happy about the way Florida's going in. He said he can go on gator hunt there too. So we had two gator hunts and then Ole Miss here, Yoga studio said they will actually, actually give you 15% of the company. So that is what Jimmy is doing. That is his job. But he's not just doing it for Lane, he's doing it for all the other guys too, just in case. So I think there's a lot of conflicting stories about what Lane's paying attention to, what he's not paying attention To. And it's like, I genuinely don't think he wanted to make a decision, which is why he wanted to be like, hey, Ole Miss never told me I need to make a decision right now. I think he's trying to push it as far as possible. And then I think the earliest that anybody would accept, which is why I think you saw the Chancellor put out a message, is like, day after Egg bowl. Then, like, we gotta know, which is an ultimatum then. Yes, but I don't think that was put in place at that time. Like, at that time. I don't think the ultimatum was put in place.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Then I think Lane met with them, and I think they were like, he was. I just don't want to. That's not what I want to focus on. That's a lot of things. There's a lot of things, like, there's so many things on. I'd rather just focus on ball right now. And they're like, well, we need an answer after the Egg Bowl. And then they're like, sweet Saturday sounds good. Because I think the chancellor put out a message. I was like, like, we are very committed to Lane Kiffin getting a good win in the Egg bowl. And then Saturday we will be learning. It's like, I think that was a negotiation on when decision was going to be made, if I had to guess. So I think Lane was trying to push it off as far as possible. They were probably trying to speed it up as much as possible. So the day after this game is when we will do this then, I think is what they came to an agreement on. And I don't know if Lane knows. I don't know if Lane knows. What I do know is rivalry week is. And I do know the ole Mississippi State Egg bowl might have implications on so many different states, so many different stories, so many different college football dreams could certainly be the case. But obviously Ohio State hasn't won in 2,187 days against Michigan. Georgia. Georgia Tech. You know, Georgia Tech loses the pit last weekend. Crazy. Now, this game matters a lot for Georgia Tech. And obviously Georgia has looked like one of the top teams in the entire country without in Eugene last week. And they hate Washington up there. They hate Washington up there. Shout out to them, obviously. And then Alabama. Auburn has massive implications for an Alabama team that cannot lose a game. Now, there's a game that a lot of people have not been talking about when it comes to rivalries, but, boy, the two schools involved certainly have. Let's go to last night after George Kittle's big Monday not football performance with Scott Van Pel. Let's have some fun on the way out here.
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My producer is an Iowa grad and.
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I know that there's my favorite part.
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This week is how many incredible games there are.
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There's a nooner in Lincoln.
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You never lost there. You know, there's a guy that's. He's got a.
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He's got a burgeoning media career that's.
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Busting with the boys and all that. He's Nebraska. I don't know how he's doing after what happened in State College. I don't know if you want to.
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Address him directly or.
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This floor is yours as it relates to Iowa, Nebraska. Hey, Will Compton. Didn't really appreciate your voice memo on the day of my Monday night Football game talking crap to me about Nebraska. Iowa didn't settle with me. You know what? I didn't like it. And you know, that's just. That's the type of thing Nebraska does. They take cheap shots, you know, hey, I'm preparing for a Monday night Football game on national television. And coming to me about Nebraska, Iowa. That means you're scared. You're terrified. You lost by 30 at Penn State. They just fired their Coach. US by 30. Are you kidding me? I was going to come in there, run the ball down your throat, and there's nothing you can do about it. Sit on the bus that doesn't go anywhere and shut your mouth. Will Compton, ladies and gentlemen. Joining us now, the man who sits on a bus that doesn't go anywhere. And he's been representing Nebraska louder than anybody that I've ever witnessed from busting with the boys. And first, get up. Sorry, Will Content. Yeah. All right. So you got buried on Sports center with Scott Van Pelt last night by George Kiddo, I saw your response. Epic. Just like most things that you do on the Internet. Iowa, Nebraska. Not a lot of people thinking about nationally. What do we need to know? And are you. You actually confident in Nebraska? And if Iowa beats the living dog out of ne, which is possible, are you worried about what old George Kittle might do to you next? Will, you know what I'm talking about?
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I think when people talk about this Iowa, Nebraska game because again, this, this type of game is for the sickos. These are the sickos who love college football. There's not going to be a lot of points scored. I want to say last year, Nebraska punted seven times. I Will punted nine. It's been decided in one score or less in the last Five years. Years. And my confidence never wavers on the big red. George wants to sit there, number one. Like Iowa guys, they can't use their brains. George is on national television talking about will. He wants to. I don't appreciate this. This a cheap shot. He's going on national television. Can't respond to me directly. I'm going to him to talk to him directly.
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Privately.
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Privately.
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He wants to not respond. He wants to go around and go on national television, take shots at me when I'm just trying to prepare for some college football on Saturday. I'm watching live last night. Volume was on eight. I'm preparing for. I think it was like North Carolina U. Like North Carolina. North Carolina State was where I was in my prep work. Volume was on 8 on the TV. And all of a sudden I hear Scott Van Pelt saying, I know you want to talk to your Nebraska friend directly here in a few minutes. I kind of look over like Georgia about to talk on national television. He don't respond to my text when I'm trying to go to him man to man. He wants to take the cowards way out and go and broadcast it to everybody else, but doesn't want to talk to me back at and forth. That is the Iowa brain at work. And he talks about, you know, we. We lost by 30 to Penn State last week. Little does everybody know, that game was meaningless last week. You think we ran one scripted play in practice against Penn State? No. It's all eyes on Iowa Hawkeyes because, yes, we are one and nine on the last 10. That is big brother right now. But this is big brother who's bleeding. They can't even defend their state. They can't even defend their state of Iowa. They lose to Iowa State. What makes you think they can defend the border? I know Ty Schmidt sitting there shaking in his boots right now because old Matt Rule, Amber Johnson and Willie C. Is going to run wild on the Iowa Hawkeyes this week.
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Okay, that's all I got.
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That's the promo.
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Yeah. That was pretty good. I was pretty good. I think you should feel good about the delivery. I think you should feel good. Volume at 8. Good idea. Even setting the table a little bit, looking over at it and then obviously the response was epic. Great promo. I'd say George Kittle dropping right into a wrestling promotion promo immediately upon the question being asked was also a special moment in there. I appreciate that Nebraska feels this way about Iowa. Does Iowa think about Nebraska?
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I don't personally, no. Because they're. I mean, what is the Border all about Will.
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It turns out it doesn't matter. Will.
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Will was in Nebraska. Wasn't in the Big Ten when you played there, right? You were in the Big 12.
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We were Big 12 for two years in Big Ten for two years. Willie C. Went to and oh, against.
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Exactly. And that's what I was going to say. So I understand that that Will. Because he did. He went 20 against the Hawks. But yeah, Willie C. Did they. I mean Nebraska's 4 and 10 against Iowa in the last 14. And guess what? Will Compton ain't coming through that door to play on Saturday. He's not, you know, so that's one thing. But you know, I mean, like you said, this is. Am I looking forward to watching this game? No. Like it's going to be three and a half hours of wanting to rip your goddamn eyeballs out and whoever has the ball last. And you know, we're probably going to see a. A 58 yard field goal from one way or the other to decide this game. But no, I'm not losing any sleep over Nebraska because you know, why would I. We got, we got Mark Grosky playing quarterback.
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Okay, agree.
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Dylan Ryle's, you know, legs in 55 different pieces.
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Who's your returner?
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Kaden Wen. You don't even. But, but that's the thing. You know, Nebraska's not going to punt the Kaden reach and they know what he can do and, and you know what?
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Just blast it out of bounds.
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Yeah, I do, I do. Because Michigan State should have done that last week and they didn't.
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Nebraska is the punter that can go both ways. Right. He's a righty and a lefty if I recall.
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I, I have no idea because you know what? I'm not paying any attention to Nebraska and I understand we, we've had Matt Rule on the show all year. Exactly. He is a good guy. He is a good guy. But no, I mean, you know, Will, you're from Missouri. That's the show me State. Nebraska is going to have to show me something before I'm losing any sleep over that game.
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Oh, will he see? Eat that and don't respond. We' much about this game already. Let's move along. You said you were doing your college ball scouting for the weekend. Ohio State. Michigan, obviously. Taylor, the other bussin boy is a huge Michigan alum. Michigan stud. 2,187 days it's been since Ohio State has beat Michigan. And obviously everybody from Ohio thinks about it. Everybody from Michigan celebrates it. What are your thoughts on this weekend's matchup. And is this the one where the Buckeyes can finally say, ah, we finally beat this team that has been our only kind of spur in our ass over the last decade of dominance for our team?
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Yeah, I, you know, I would have given Michigan no shot before last weekend. They, they played their best game of ball last weekend. Bryce Underwood had a stat line. The running game still moving even with their third string running back. They can play salty on defense. I, Dude, Ohio State, you see it from afar. You're, you're an Internet guy watching the victory laps, the patent on the head, everything that happens. And when they were 20 something point underdogs last year, you know, people talk like, did ego get in the way of Ohio State and they wanted to beat him in a certain way and that kind of, that kind of got in their way and they end up dropping that game to where they're planting flags on the field. I mean, you got kids reenacting plays of planting the, the Michigan flag on Ohio State field. And you know, Ryan Day wakes up in a sweat in the middle of the night just thinking about this game. Everybody's fired up for this game. The hype. I hope it lives up to expectation. I think Michigan has a good shot to keep it close, even squeak out a win, get an upset. I know that would torture Ohio State fans, but you called me earlier and you gave me a little whisper. I, you know, if, if you don't, if you cannot put this on the show.
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What? No, no, don't do it. We're live.
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We're live.
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A
You can just say it quiet.
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I think I'll say it quietly because we, we can't let people hear this. I do think Ohio State handles business. I think this is where they get the monkey off their back. I hate saying that, cuz I love my boy. I am riding with Michigan with the points here. There's a massive opportunity, there's a massive opportunity for Ohio State to beat the living hell out of Michigan. Yeah, I just want to see chaos. I'm a k, I'm a pro Chaos Guy, Guy, just give me chaos. 10 times out of 10, somebody's a slight underdog. They can kind of disrupt the entire system by getting a win. I want to see it happen because I want to see the Internet just up in flames at all times. That's what I love about the sport of the Internet.
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Yeah, the sport of the Internet is obviously one that's very intense and active all the time. The sport of color.
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Hey, Pat, Pat, let me Ask you.
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Are we. This is. We're dumping with this. We're dumping. AJ can't even hear us right now. Go ahead.
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Yeah, I can't.
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I know.
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I know where AJ's going. What, Pat, what do you think about this game? What do you think about Ohio State?
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Michigan?
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I want to let you know I can't wait to get up to Ann Arbor. I can't wait to get up to Ann Arbor. Can't wait. Very thankful for all those Ann Arbor students that will hang out with us. 9am on Saturday. I will say the location of our set is always very far away from the stadium. So it's always an interesting thing because we have to hop on golf carts, drive like what is seemingly 10 miles to get to the stadium and then go inside. So it's always a bit chaotic up there. But boy, it's an honor to be amongst all the Ann Arborins and all the great people in Michigan. There's billionaires walking around everywhere. Billionaires. Kids just going to school. It's a lot of fun. I think it's going to be a great matchup. Willie C. That's what I think. I think it's going to be a really good game. That's what I think.
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We gotta wait to see what happens when you got that shirt off.
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By the way.
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Hey, your body. You look good out there with that shirt off. I know you've been putting in the work. I know you've been in the sauna and working out.
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You look good. You look good. Thank you. We can say that louder. That you don't have to do inside voice for that one. We're allowed to let other people hear that. That a lot of good science. Willy C. As you know as well. But science doesn't work if you don't, you know, that's why. What's what I've been told so I've been trying to become a better human. I've been trying to become a better human in it all. I wish I could grow a mustache like what you have on your face right now. But I think this game is going to live up to the hype. And I can't wait to get up there to Michigan and everything I said there is true. We do take golf carts like 45 minutes to get to the stadium. They'll have like Jen Lotta will have a 20 minute piece. Then they'll have somebody, Pete Thamel will maybe bring break down the entire season for like 15 minutes. And then we get in there into the stadium. It's so there's just humans everywhere, though. I mean, that's 100 plus thousand. What's the big house? What is 100?
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What, 109, maybe 110 or something.
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Yeah.
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So many people. That is so many human beings at one place, let alone outside of it. And around it. It does feel it's special place to be, lucky to be there. Hope the game lives up to the hype. All right, let's talk about some other happening around the sports world. Go ahead, con man.
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Yeah, well, a lot of hair ago for you. You said Joe Burrow was the best quarterback in the NFL when healthy. Finally he's back on Thanksgiving night versus the Ravens and his record versus the Ravens is pretty filthy. I think he's got like 21 touchdowns, five picks. He's averaging like 300 yards a game. Version. What do you think about the Bengals? Do you think they're going to make a run at it here? Maybe come back a little bit? They're banged up very much so. T. Higgins out. Jamar Chase back from the spit. Do you think that Cincy can make a run here?
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Jamar Chase back from the spit. Joe Burrow back from injury. Do those things make the defense play better? I don't know. I don't think so. Like, if Joe Burrow's out on the field under quarter, under center, does that mean the second effort there against old big boy from the Steelers a couple weeks ago, is he actually going to throw his face in the fan instead of kind of coddle up and fold with the lights get on him? I have no clue. I like him. This week against the Ravens, I like some chaos. They won't go on a run because again, their defense is brutal. But I would love to see Joey B. Light it up. First game back like a month ahead of schedule with his injury, especially a turf toe. Like anybody who said turf don't know. That's a, that's a tough injury to come back from. And he got under the, he got under the scope with it, too. He had to get surgery. But I like Joey B. This weekend against the Ravens.
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Let's talk about the Bengals as a whole. When they put their team together the way they did and spent the money that they spent, did you think to yourself, oh, that's how teams that have won football games have done it in the past? Is that what you do you think they'll ever be able to win so.
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Much money on a few offensive players? Like, absolutely not.
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Like, that's a shame. That's a shame.
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We all kind of shame. It's a shame. It's a shame. It's like, you kind of see, you know, teams that try and do that.
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What's that?
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George is calling.
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Oh, we got, we got. We got.
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Yep, yep. Absolutely. Back to rivalry week. Here we are.
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Listen, we're live.
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We're live. We're live. We're live.
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We're live right now. Can you say hello? Can you wait?
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Hey, congrats on big night last night. Hell, yeah. Go Hawks. Go Hawks.
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Go.
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Promo on Twitter. I'm trying to get a massage right now, get my body right to go play in Cleveland this week. And you're just taking cheap shots again.
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You probably.
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Okay, cheap shot guy. You're. This is the first time you've been face to face with me because I tried FaceTiming you yesterday, and you took the cowards way out. It's early in the morning When I FaceTimed you, you had all day long to respond to your boy. But you want to go like, hey, hey, Scott Van Pell, like, let me go on your show and talk to Willie C. Like, we know. We see. Everybody sees that. You're rattled right now.
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You don't get to go on Scott Van Pelt. You get asked to go on Scott Van Pelt. I don't know if you've ever been on Scott Van Pelt, but it's an honor to work with that legend.
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You probably.
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You called Pat to get on his show, didn't you?
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No.
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But don't disrespect me right now. I'm trying to keep my head above.
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A
Water this week, and I'm gonna hug you next week.
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I love you.
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Take care of yourself now. Love me later. Love that.
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Amen.
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Love everything about that. You said it. All right. We just talked about the Bengals obviously having a recipe for success, which we all certainly know. I'm happy that happened. I'm happy you guys are that type. By the way, that's a beautiful thing I don't have. Who posted this photo? It's messed up. I don't like this.
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Oh, yeah.
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Come on.
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Photoshop me.
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AI is crazy, man. That looks real. That looks real.
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You're good.
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Yeah, you look.
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Wait, is that.
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Are you on the same science as me, bro? You?
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B
Hey, I don't know if I'm putting the same science in my body as you. I need to get on that plan. I need to hit you up on the side. Like, hey, what. What we. What do we got going here? I'm soft right now.
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A
The affinity people are good people. You need to know that. The Affinity people are good, good people. Let's talk about great people. There has been a semifinals list put out about the greatest of all time. Go ahead, Debug.
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E
Oh, yeah. Well, let's see. I got to put you on the spot here, too. Played a long, long time in the league. Nine years. Not sure where we're at with year 10, if that's, you know, still up in the air. But I got to get you to pick five of these guys that's going to get into the hall of Fame. Not sure if you can see the names up here. I know a couple for me. Teammate Vinnie, Robert Mathis, Larry Fitzger, obviously, first ballot, Drew Brees, probably first ballot, Luke Keakley. But those are probably my five, I think off the top. Who do you think's going to get in this year with this finalist list?
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B
Oh, what a spot to be in right here. I can kind of read half of the list. Luke Keakley, like that to me. Luke Keakley. No matter what. That, that was my. That was my king growing up along with you, too. A.J. hawk, of course. Dude, we're talking about the hall of Fame. All these guys are great. You asked me on any given given day, any time of the day, I'm like, yeah, that dude, he seems like a Hall of Famer. I have absolutely no clue who should get into the hall of Fame.
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F
Yeah.
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B
Drew Brees, hell of a player. Philip Rivers.
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C
Hell.
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B
Frank Gore, Larry Fitzgerald, Jason Whitten, Luke Keakley, Rodney Harrison. Dude, I have no clue. That's above my pay grade. I never played at a level to where I could even flirt with the idea of the hall of Fame, even though my five years will be coming up here very shortly.
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E
Okay.
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B
That'll be talked about, I'm sure.
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A
Yeah, we'll see. We'll see.
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B
But I have no clue.
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H
Clue.
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B
I have no clue. They all deserve to be in the hall of Fame.
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A
You never know if you be a Hoffnom, brother. You never know. Be a Hoffnom, you know, Never know. I'm a three time Hoffnom. I think. I think they felt obligated strictly because I'm on a microphone now talking about that. One of the Hoffns this year was Mr. A.J. hawk.
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I
Let's go, Hawk.
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A
Get back in the semifinals. But we'll get there next year. We'll get there next year, AJ and obviously, anytime your name is ass associated with any of this, it's special. And I think we all hold the hall of Fame in such high regard. I think it's one of those things that every player has respect for. And whenever you watch these greats have emotional moments whenever they're told that they're going to live on forever in the Hall. It's a beautiful thing. Impossible task, figuring out who deserves to go in and who doesn't deserve to go in, because it's like Phil Rivers. Phil Rivers was like a starting quarterback in the NFL, a very good one for 20 some years or whatever the case is. Well, he win? What did he win? It's like a lot of games. No, that's what I'm asking. I'm not asking about that. I'm asking about Super Bowl. And then you skipped right over one. One person you were reading that graphic skipped over Eli Manning. Willie C. Did. Willie C. Just skipped right over Eli.
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J
Man.
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A
Go ahead.
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B
That's an intentional. Eli.
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H
I'm, I'm.
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B
I'm on the show right now from my phone. So the ones that are bolded, those are the ones.
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A
But that's a whole. Another conversation. His final record. What's his final record? And it's like, who cares? He's Eli Manning. You don't think he should live on forever. It's like. Bruce, how do you view the hall of Fame? Obviously, you've been around a long time. Your name's going to be up for it. You're going to be in conversations about it for the rest of your life, whether you're in it or talking about going in it, which seemingly becomes a thing. What are your thoughts on the hall of Fame and how it should kind of be handled?
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H
Yeah, it's the ultimate. I mean, when you, when you. I've sat in that crowd now for like four or five years, because I've had a guy go in the last four or five years, and it's just amazing. Amazing.
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F
What a day.
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H
And, you know, to see the families and everybody there. Obviously Ronde Barber was my last one and he's like my nephew. So, yeah, it's a Hall of Fame. Is that's it?
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A
How about them voting? What do you think the thoughts are?
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H
Yeah, to me, that's when those guys get in there and start fighting it out. You gotta have a hell of a guy representing you. I have found that out. If you got a Meek Mild guy, that's your reporter. That's. You ain't getting in.
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A
I said that for a while.
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H
Yeah, you gotta have a dog. Gotta have a dog in there fighting.
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A
So we had. We've had a guy who I think everybody has respect for, obviously his name now was on the media room or whatever, the journalist super duper area at the Colts facility and everything like that. And obviously I have respect for him a lot but it took Dwight Free a long time to get in and it's like, how is this even a case? And then I started hearing the same thing you're hearing well at the table. The person representing has got to fight for it. It's like, well, that guy doesn't really like me. He put me on this. That guy put me as like the third team punter for the Colts whenever he put the Colts together and I'm like, he's the one that's in there. I mean me, I don't deserve to go in there. But like anybody else that he potentially has like just a little bit of slight against. It's like he's the one representing the entire I don't know how that that's scary situation. Maybe we need to reevaluate how these decisions are made for all things Willie C. Maybe we just have future Hoff noms like Willie C. Get the pen and start sex. Sending people in. Maybe that's what we need to do.
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B
I would love that. Whether it's Heisman voting, hall of Fame voting, I would love to be part of all that stuff. Give me a pen and paper and I'll let something rip.
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A
I love that. Any NFL stories we should talk about that you are really keen on?
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B
You won't like this one, but I again, pro chaos. Would love to see some chaos in the AFC South. I'd love to see there's an opportunity for the Houston Texans and all the momentum that they have to beat the Colts this weekend. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I just think Colts drop one again a little bit. Doubt coming in the locker room a little bit. Texans on an absolute heater. If the Jaguars take care of business this weekend. You got three teams there in the AFC south. That again, AFC south. Nobody really talks about division, that division like as the season started to unfold. But then you got three teams right now who'd be one game away from each other and dude, I've been taking beating after beating for my cheats. My Chiefs take last week because I had the Colts, I had Danny Jones just being the guy to take down the dynasty and yeah, you saw one right there.
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A
Yeah. Yeah. It would have been nice if we put him away. Okay. And it looked easy early. But to your point about the AFC Southfield Yates just kind of put this tweet out. Colts play the Jags and Texans twice in the final six weeks. So you talk about chaos. It's very available now. The Tennessee Titans, seemingly not even existing. Cam Ward can make a couple throws very, very well. Can they put anything around him that he's going to have a great football career? TBD for sure. But the other three teams, to your point, really taken off. Really taking off. The Chiefs might still be the Chiefs brother, just not 100% sure yet.
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B
No, listen, they won a game they won at Arrowhead.
- [98:22]
E
The Chiefs.
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B
They're not still the Chiefs. The dynasty will fall. Just hasn't happened yet.
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A
Oh, I didn't know. You're a hater.
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I
You.
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A
You're a Chiefs hater. You don't.
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B
Listen, I. I appreciate greatness. I respect greatness. Whenever their DOC comes out for the Chiefs, whenever that whole dynasty docu series comes out, I will be right there on opening night because I love everything that they've ever done. But, you know, I like that. A little bit of fun on the Internet. It feels like the Chiefs fans, you can kind of. You can kind of rattle them a lot of the times, and so I always appreciate a good little banter back and forth on the Internet.
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A
Okay, so you're all right. I. I respect what you're doing here.
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B
Trolling.
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A
Yeah, Just complete troll.
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B
Just a little bit of chaos.
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A
Lane. Theo Von just said Lane Kiffin's trolling somebody. We just don't know who it is.
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I
Yeah.
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A
He said every tweet he puts out is some scavenger hunt into his mind. And it's like, that's not a place you want to be. Who knows where he's going? What do you think about Lane's situation?
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B
Dude, Lane has such an opportunity to be the biggest hero of all time or the biggest villain of all time, the way he's kind of maneuvered. Again, again, he. He says he doesn't know what he wants to do. A lot of me just believes this dude might just be making a decision on Friday or Saturday. But, dude, if they win this Egg bowl and he comes out and says he's staying at Ole Miss, like me, I would. I would love to see him go as far as maybe he's telling LSU in Florida that he's coming. Like, when the game ends, he's texting like, hey, you know, these are going to be one of my spots. Gets Florida and LSU to believe, and just at the last second, he announces that he's staying at Ole Miss. Miss tries to. Tries to take shots at his competition by dragging him along this entire Process and just stay home with Ole Miss. He would be the biggest hero of all time. But I'm telling you right now, if he leaves and he break, he would be ripping the heart out of the chest of Ole Miss and they would hate him so much because it would have went down in such an ugly way. I'm hopeful that he stays because again, Ole Miss puts out their thing. Hey, these we're announcement's going to be made after the Egg Bowl. Then something leaks on Sunday. Like LSU is prepared to offer 90 million, 100 million a billion dollars to Lane Kiffin. Seems like, hey, he might be leaning that way. I hope it's just all drag along troll sesh. He's trying to hurt the competition and ultimately he stays home at Ole Miss. All right.
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A
I think a lot of people are saying the same thing. I wonder if he's listening or if he's already made up his mind.
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E
Like dbuds already made up his mind. We know and we kind of know.
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A
No, we know A.J.
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J
He'S out of there.
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E
See, I know what Tate told everybody. He knows.
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J
They can't be too mad at him. Fans can't be too mad. That's how it works. That's how the game works. Hey, Will, I want to ask you quickly about chaos. You talk about that, obviously. Well, first off, a two part question variable. Are you surprised how quickly I guess he's like the culture has got into the New England Patriots and how good they are. And second part, would you rather get you punched in the balls or spit on on the football field?
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A
That is great question.
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B
To answer the second question, I'd rather get punched in the balls than spit on.
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A
On.
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B
Yeah, agree bra. I'm not surprised. Like you just see the way this team's operated the culture that, that that's been like leaking into that team. Like Stefan Diggs is fired up at games. You got Henry, the tight end, Drake May. You have all these hot mic moments with Vrabel and the way that everybody's kind of talking to each other, the leadership that goes on. And Drake May is just a superstar right now. The dude, he operates well in the pockets, super poised and never seen. Seems like he gets rattled whatsoever. Always seems like they have the perfect touch on the football. New England, man, they've been. I'm surprised that they are this far ahead in the rebuild. I know people hate to hear the term rebuild and everything like that, but dude, it looks like they're gonna, they're gonna win that division. I. I still haven't win the Division. It's easier to say now. I was talking about them upsetting the Bills back in September, I believe it was. But they're in a prime spot, dude. They're going to be competing for the one seed in the 80s AFC, which is nuts to think about. Like you talk about before the season, it'd be what, Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes. Who's going to get the one seed in the playoffs this year? Those four quarterbacks. And now we're sitting here, it's the Broncos and the New England Patriots. We're talking about B. Knicks. And Drake May. He's going to get the one seat in the playoffs.
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A
And.
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B
And Danny Jones. And Danny Jones.
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A
Jesus. Oh, my God.
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F
Kind of an after.
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B
But they dropped. They dropped. I'm just saying. The two. Two lost teams. Right now, it's the Broncos and the.
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A
Page, I understand you had the. The Colts beating the Chiefs this past weekend. So you looked bad publicly. So you got to hold it against us all of a sudden. Just know we still have Jonathan Taylor, okay? And maybe he wasn't able to run for shit against the Chief in Kansas City on grass, which people are starting to talk about in outdoor stadiums on.
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I
Grass, off a bar.
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A
We're back in the loud house this weekend. Just look for us to turn it up.
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I
Who you guys playing?
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A
Good team. A. Pretty good team.
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J
Tough defense over there.
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A
Pretty good defense. Yeah. Don't you worry about the Houston Texans? Oh, I'm not.
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I
I'm not worried about anybody unless you're at the top, baby.
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A
Okay. All right. Willie C. We appreciate you, man. Good luck on all your chaos everywhere you go.
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B
All right, boys. Love you. Thanks for having me on, Pat.
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A
You too, man. What's the final score? All right.
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I
Happy Thanksgiving, man.
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F
Yeah.
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A
Doing it, brother. Yeah. All right, let's pivot away from Willie C. Football, and let's go to BA Football. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Tuesday, so that means it's time for BS or no BS With BA Now, BA Obviously, this has become one of our favorite segments of the week because you, a man with 47 years of football coaching experience, tell us if a narrative or a quote that is being mentioned publicly is either BS or no BS in your eyes. Let's get to the first one. Christian McCaffrey leads the NFL in receptions, carries, and broken tackles. He needs to be in the MVP conversation. Is that B.S. or no B.S. b.A.
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H
No, that's no B.S. definitely. I mean, what he's doing right now, anytime. I always say, when you put your name in history of the NFL. He's got a chance for a thousand and a thousand. The only guy to ever do it twice. And, and you know, after watching that game the other night last night, he's going to get the ball enough. He just hope his legs can hold up.
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A
Everybody's talking about Jonathan Taylor being the running back. That would be in the MVP conversation. Bijan Robinson had a conversation a little bit earlier. Christian McCaffrey hasn't really been a part of this convo really yet until what I think today, whenever these stats started coming out. Has this been a Christian McCaffrey, like year? Like, obviously he's getting the ball as much as he is. Is he going to be able to finish and is this Niners team going as he goes? Obviously, totally.
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H
That offense is. He is the offense.
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A
So he is valuable.
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H
He's the offense. He and George Kittle. And George Kittles comes off of all the fakes to Christian McCaffrey, you know, and so it's this guy is amazing to me. Everybody thought he was too small coming out. The dude's a horse now.
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A
He is an absolute horse. That band workout, AJ I don't know if you saw it. They showed him. He had a guy holding a band strength coach on a gray band, thick band holding it and then he was just warming up and it was just, I was like, golly, it was hard not to just notice that the dude's bottom half is a horse. This guy's an actual stallion and he has to be, I guess, because of how many times he gets the ball, how hard he runs, how explosive he is, how many hits he takes. Everything about him is like, tough football player, which is why we've lost him a few different times to different injuries. And it's like riding Christian McCaffrey is certainly electrifying. I hope he can finish. And can they be another team that is a running back led team through the playoffs? AJ Yeah, I think they can't just.
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J
Because how versatile he is. He, he's legit a receiver and a running back for you. He, he gives, trust me. There's linebackers all over the league that are terrified that they're going to have to cover him out of the backfield. I just hope like right here, like when D lineman are retrace and those are those big shots that you eat and hopefully those guys don't land on him. Those are the only ones I worry about.
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A
D. But what do you think about Christian McCaffrey's MVP conversation? Because they all always say V is for valuable it's not the most best player. It's the most valuable player. He's going to have the most receptions and the most touches running maybe in the league. That's pretty valuable.
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E
I mean, that's. That's insane. I found that, I think last night, which most of us did. He's leading the league in receptions in carriage, which is nuts. The reason he had. He kind of hasn't been in the conversation, I think up to this point is because he hasn't had that year, especially on the ground where he's averaging like, you know, five or six or seven yards to carry. I think he was around. Around like 4 or less carry wise. But he gets the ball so much in so many different ways. But he's. He's unbelievable. He could definitely be. That offense is going to go as two, three goes for sure.
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A
Hambo, stat here about him being the NFL leader in a bunch of different stats here. Rush attempts, receptions, touches, yards from scrimmage, you name it. So it's like Christian McCaffrey is the San Francisco 49ers offense. And then we got Brock Purdy getting back into form, regressing.
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H
Inform.
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I
Okay, okay, okay.
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A
Because you didn't have a lot of hope for him early. No, but Christian McCaffrey in the MVP conversations. Congrats to CMC. Let's go to the next quote here. BA yeah, Bruce.
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I
With how this Cowboys team is playing right now, if they take care of business on Thanksgiving versus the Chiefs, they will make a run to the playoffs and possibly win the Super bowl.
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A
Whoa.
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I
Is that B.S. or no B.S.
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H
That'S B.S.
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A
Brother. Come on.
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H
If they win five out of six, that tie might get them in because their conference record really is not. They lose all the tie breakers and they are playing really good right now. I think the happiest guy in the world right now is Jerry Jones. Because everybody's, oh, Jerry did the right thing. A hell of a job with Quinn and Williams. But Dax playing good. The receivers offensive play playing good.
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A
I mean, they got to win them.
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H
All, in my opinion, or they're going to lose the tiebreaker.
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A
Okay, so you're saying they have a very, very hard road ahead if they were to make very tough. So although we all like the way they're playing right now and we might pick them in a lot of these games going forward to win. We think they dug themselves too big of a hole early.
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H
Yeah. And I think the big one will be at. At Detroit. You know, I think that's going to.
- [108:00]
A
Be a huge, huge game.
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I
Both teams yeah, that's prime time next week, too. They got Thanksgiving this week, and then, you know, you see right there, they got Cowboys at Detroit on Thursday Night Football.
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A
Now, we will say we're very thankful that the Dallas Cowboys are good at football because they are going to be on primetime television because Jerry Jones is the owner, and that is how it goes. I think we're going to see very good football from Dallas Cowboys. It's going to be a classic Cowboys scenario.
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I
Yes.
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A
Like, good football team just can't make it. They weren't able to catch up. All offseason, we're going to say, hey there. Remember, Dallas Cowboys are a really good football team, even though they didn't make the playoffs. Okay. And that's like synonymous with the entertainment level of who the Dallas Cowboys are. They are a show more so than a team at this point. And right now, the show is very good football.
- [108:42]
E
Absolutely. I think Ty said it earlier in the week, like, this was truly a win win for Dallas in GRE bait with the moves that they made. But the thing I love about the Cowboys, since we know they're going to be on prime time, win or loss, like, they're a fun team to watch, especially with Dak is spinning it. And then the trade they made for Quinn, and obviously he's dominant on the field. I don't know if you guys heard it or not, but it was a player after the game who kind of talked about what happened at halftime and kind of how Quinn and kind of took the leadership role. And that's, you know, you don't hear that often with a guy who's coming in, you know, six, seven, eight weeks into a season, kind of taking that role. And you could tell the team responded, being down 21 divisional opponent, like a big time, pretty much playoff mode right now for the Cowboys. So I'm excited to see how this kind of final stretch turns out.
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A
Yeah, I think a lot of people saying big bro about Quinn and I think I already have heard that from people around the defense and I think I heard Quinn and talk about, like, how it's an interesting role where he's like, I'm a little bit one of the older guys all of a sudden. And I played and I've been in situations and I think his personality lends to people to gravitate towards him. From what I've seen from Quinn Williams, I don't know him personally. And Jerry obviously brings in a guy who's now a. A magnet of positive energy and experience, and they're setting that D line, line up in the middle. For everything that Jerry Jones has been talking about, you talk about him being the happiest guy because he's moved. George Pickens wasn't on this team before the season started. He's now on their team with a big time move. But also he might have hit that $100 billion honey hole. We still have yet to get an update on that honey hole that he was kind of eyeballing that had $100 billion. The reason why I'm talking to you Wall Street Journal and not worrying about Dallas Cowboys defense is because there is, from my understanding, a hundred billion dollars in natural gas. Three miles down. Nobody's able to get three miles down. I'm putting a billion dollars up to try to get these pipes to get down three miles to get a hundred billion dollars in natural gas. That was four weeks ago. Now he's back at the game, sitting in the suite. Did this son of a. Get the 3 miles deep and find 100 billion while also figuring out a football team.
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F
Well, I would say you could argue that it might be the other way around. He went down there and it was just a septic tank. Tank that was pumping. And he was like, oh, now I gotta go make a couple trades and. And shore up this defense. This is not good. People are gonna kill me. I think that probably lends itself for it because now he is all in on the Cowboys because guess what? He doesn't have a hundred billion dollars down there.
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A
I do not know what this exactly means that Bruce is showing me, but some stock is up into the right.
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E
We're pumping.
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I
We're pumping.
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A
We're up into the ride.
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I
40.
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J
This went up.
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A
Yeah.
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I
Okay.
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A
All right. So Jerry's living very good is what you're saying. And his team looks good. Who knows if they'll be able to make the playoffs with how deep of a hole they dug themselves in earlier. All right, let's go to the last B.S. or no B.S. with B.A.
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F
Yeah. Coach Drake May, Mike Vrabel and the New England Patriots are an absolute wagon and will be the number one seed in the AFC. And.
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A
And.
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F
And. And, and.
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A
And.
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F
And. And Stafford, McVey, Devonte Puka, and a young defense full of dogs will be the number one seed in the nfc. Is that BS or no BS and that's both parts. Yeah, exactly.
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H
That is no BS Those. Both these teams are rolling.
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A
What? That's two different quotes. Okay.
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G
Wow.
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A
This is a big deal. It's historic. Wow. Holy.
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H
What Bra's done in New England. And Drake May is playing lights out. And when you talk about these young quarterbacks, you got to be able to play from the pocket. He can play from the pocket. And then Matthew Stafford, the fountain of youth. And then that defense is legit.
- [112:13]
A
Young defense, four dogs. How we described it feels like they really came together last year towards the end. They took the Eagles to the limit in the snow. One incompletion or one sack away from beating the Eagles, obviously, and maybe becoming super bowl champions yet again. Pukin AKU is untackable whenever he gets a rock.
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H
BA oh, he's a big, strong, active guy. And then they do such great things. You know the one thing Sean always does, his receivers block. I mean they block and they're, they're really good blockers and it sets up so much of that underneath stuff that Puka knows. Guys just, they run after catch. Guys.
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A
Tell me about Devonte Adams on the goal line. He has more 1 yard touchdowns in the history of the NFL than anybody else. At 15. They've seemingly found a cheat code instead of the tushbush with just put Devonte out there on an island and let him have a two way go.
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H
Yeah, he has a two way go. And then probably that little eye contact if I'm going in or out. And you know, Mike Evans has had that for a long time. He had it with Tom Brady and.
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A
It was like drunk had it.
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H
Just hey, whatever, whatever technique he's playing, I'm going the other way. All right, block them all up. I'm going to win. And Devonte has been doing it for a long time. He had it with Aaron Rodgers forever.
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A
That's a great. And Stafford's not going to miss. No, no, no, not at all. BA Your classic quote is Stafford only got go out to watch throwing warm up.
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H
Unbelievable, man. His arm is. And he still got it.
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A
Oh, he went into that trailer.
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F
Yeah.
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A
Came out throwing it better. That was BS or no BS with BA we appreciate you, BA show will roll on digitally here. You know, we're lucky to be able to do this for a living. It's on these particular days where we get in the dumbest conversations where I really wonder why anybody watches. But we certainly are very appreciative that they do. A.J. isn't that right?
- [113:50]
J
Absolutely, 100%.
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A
And there's not really a time to ever tell people like, hey, you work your ass off. You should spend money on stuff that we are selling. Because that's just very rude. Everybody understands how we're doing as a company where we're at now versus where we were. But we currently have a 25% off sale happening@store.patmcfow.com because we're in meaningful football season.
- [114:08]
F
Exactly.
- [114:09]
A
We're in meaningful football football season. So 25 off the whole store. Do not feel obligated. We are okay as a business, but if you would like to rep and say hello and everything like that, we'd be very grateful. We have a lot of things and that speaker is actually kind of sick. The helmet is actual Riddell sports helmets. And we'll be signing a bunch to send in kind of randomly. All right, have a good one. We can. Yeah, we're over. Yeah, that's it. I feel like I really nailed it.
- [114:34]
I
Oh yeah.
- [114:35]
J
This full size helmets.
- [114:37]
A
Many helmets. Okay. So we have. I think there's a few hundred of them. We will randomly send an autographed one with some of the orders of the helmets. I don't know how many we should do. I don't know how many we have here versus how many are in another place. We'll randomly sign 20 of them.
- [114:55]
F
There you go.
- [114:56]
A
Okay, we'll randomly sign 20 of them. No, we will definitely sign 20 of them. Then we will randomly send them to purchasers of the Riddell mini helmet or whatever. So then you could have two helmets. One of them will be signed instead. Or we just replace the one that they bought with a sign. No, they should get a blank one too. We don't know what they want.
- [115:15]
J
Yeah, they want to bang their head around. Bang. Put on their cat's head and run them into the wall.
- [115:18]
I
Yeah, it's going to be sweet.
- [115:20]
A
We should send them a blank one.
- [115:21]
E
Yeah, yeah.
- [115:22]
A
Cuz they already bought a blank one.
- [115:23]
H
Boom.
- [115:24]
A
Yeah. So we'll send 20 other ones randomly throughout. People that purchase it shout out to Riddell. From what my understanding, they reach out to us. Wow. Hey, we want to make some helmets.
- [115:32]
J
Sweet.
- [115:33]
A
Yeah. And it was legit helmet. They. Oh yeah. Actual helmets in there. Which is awesome. Very thankful they did that. Got some golf polos, hats, couple flags, T shirts with a little thing and then the back has for the brand on it. A couple Pat McAfee show things. Very, very grateful for anybody that reps our shit in public. And obviously there's not always a good time to rep our in public. I'm in public as me. It's not always a great time. You know, there are certainly times where things oops, you know, a little something stuff happens and then all you got to do. But we will certainly be grateful to anybody that reps our and 25% off everything in the meaningful football sale. And from my understanding, the back end shop 412 folks should be pretty good.
- [116:11]
I
Okay, here we go.
- [116:12]
A
I think the quality is all good. But I'm saying like the logistics of.
- [116:16]
F
Sure.
- [116:16]
A
Distribution, taking order, fulfillment, filling order, sending order, receiving order.
- [116:23]
G
Sure.
- [116:24]
A
That whole process, a lot of fun. That's a really fun process, you know, especially when you're dealing with warehouses and people who don't give a if your company looks good or not. This one, from my understanding shop 412 people went to high school with them. They are very excited and eager to do it. So let's lean in a little bit. And it's good shit. We got some really good shit. The putter head cover is awesome. At the bottom of the screen there. Yeah. And the bag is awesome. I mean there's a lot of really good. They put a lot of work into thinking of things that would be nice and also that we use. So like I actually use this stuff whenever I'm traveling. So like I'm very thankful for that. 25 off everything. Hopefully you'll be able to purchase it. If not, we're okay. And if you don't want to buy it, we understand. If you want to make a knockoff version. All right, do what you got. My mom used to wear Indianapolis Colts jerseys from a different country, far far away way that had my name on it. Cuz it was 20 bucks as opposed to 299.
- [117:18]
I
Sure.
- [117:18]
A
You do what you got to do for your life. Okay. And have a great Thanksgiving. Let's take a break on the other side. We got so many things we got to catch up on.
- [117:26]
E
Oh yeah.
- [117:27]
A
So many stories that we need to talk about. Are we talking soccer again? I hope.
- [117:32]
F
Are we?
- [117:33]
I
Did we play again?
- [117:35]
A
We had a full conversation, but how was we got to show the sport respect?
- [117:40]
J
Y World cup's in like 10 months, isn't it?
- [117:43]
E
When is it so far away but also so close?
- [117:46]
C
Burhalter plays on Saturday night in Vancouver.
- [117:51]
E
Never mind then.
- [117:53]
A
Listen, we will watch. Bur halter please.
- [117:56]
E
Lamar plays today.
- [117:57]
F
Why can't he play for the Sounders though? Vancouver.
- [118:01]
A
That does suck.
- [118:02]
F
No thanks.
- [118:03]
C
He loves it there.
- [118:05]
A
Oh, he does, does he?
- [118:06]
C
Yeah, he said it in the interview, actually.
- [118:08]
A
I guess he was playing for another team in America and he lost his love for soccer and almost stopped playing. And then he went up there and he fell in love with soccer again.
- [118:15]
C
Didn't go too well at Austin fc.
- [118:16]
A
I wasn't going to call it the place.
- [118:19]
J
I mean, come on. It's McConaughey.
- [118:20]
I
What happened?
- [118:23]
A
I don't know. Sometimes it just doesn't match, doesn't fit. Sometimes you're going through something in life, maybe it's not the right time. Then you find the person. Perfect place, the perfect time, perfect situation. You take advantage. That's Burhalter soccer.
- [118:36]
F
Get him down to Miami.
- [118:38]
A
Oh, we need him playing with Messi a little bit, actually.
- [118:41]
I
Yeah.
- [118:42]
A
The only issue is Messi on the field. Berhalter will not hit any free kicks. We do need him to get very comfortable hitting free kicks.
- [118:48]
I
And Messi might get a little jealous.
- [118:50]
A
Especially if he takes a shirt. This guy's unbelievably handsome.
- [118:53]
C
He is playing with Thomas Mueller, legend from Germany. Germany at Vancouver. He's unbelievable. One of the legends of the game. He's not gonna hurt you.
- [119:03]
F
Isn't he a bit long in the tooth?
- [119:05]
A
Tomas Mueller?
- [119:06]
C
Yeah.
- [119:06]
I
He's unbelievable. He's like the rag now of the ML.
- [119:08]
A
Do you know Guten Tog Mueller?
- [119:10]
H
No, sir.
- [119:11]
E
He played for Bayern Shock. Okay.
- [119:16]
C
White Cap's whole season turned around when he went there.
- [119:18]
I
Didn't he win the World cup with Tony Kobe Jones and oo?
- [119:23]
A
Yeah.
- [119:23]
F
Mess it.
- [119:24]
I
There it is.
- [119:25]
A
You guys are just FIFA. This is straight from FIFA. Oh, yeah. Glory days, baby.
- [119:29]
F
I remember watching that.
- [119:30]
I
Yeah, it's awesome.
- [119:31]
A
Playing who you're watching.
- [119:32]
F
No, no, watching the World cup back.
- [119:33]
A
Yeah.
- [119:34]
F
I mean, I. Like I said, when World cup comes around, I am highly invested.
- [119:38]
I
Yeah. And ozo's got some Mr. Bean in him.
- [119:40]
A
He does, Yeah.
- [119:41]
F
I used to love. I want an absolutely wonderful strike from mess it.
- [119:45]
I
Azel you always an Arsenal guy.
- [119:49]
C
He went from real to Arsenal. Yeah.
- [119:51]
I
Boom.
- [119:51]
A
Who's that now? Who's the voice now?
- [119:54]
F
It better be Ian Dhaka.
- [119:56]
A
You tell me, Gumps. Is it Ian or not?
- [119:58]
C
Yeah, he'll be out there.
- [119:59]
A
Yes. Will we be able to hear him? Cuz I know we get forced to maybe listen to the non exciting ones. Cuz I always have to hear every other country's version of our goal.
- [120:08]
E
I only watch soccer on Telemundo.
- [120:11]
A
Boom.
- [120:12]
E
Spanish is want y same on FIFA. Change your language. It's the first thing I do.
- [120:15]
A
But I think the French even hit a big goaso type situation. I think they go crazy.
- [120:20]
I
I wouldn't know.
- [120:21]
C
Ian Doc is returning for the World cup for 2026.
- [120:24]
A
What was old buddy's name that used to be for the wwe? His name's Kevin. He's an Irish lad. He went over to Apple I think he calls soccer. Oh, Van Dam. Not Rob Van Dam. I don't.
- [120:34]
H
I don't think.
- [120:34]
F
Fisherman. Not kvd.
- [120:35]
A
Oh, Kevin Van Dam. Sorry. Not. Is that his name? Yeah. That wasn't his WWE name, though. He had a different WWE name. He is a. I think he loves soccer. I think he's very, very good.
- [120:47]
C
He does all the pre game stuff for MLS on Apple.
- [120:49]
A
Actually, I think I've heard him call the game as well.
- [120:51]
E
Yep.
- [120:52]
A
Good energy.
- [120:53]
H
Yep.
- [120:53]
A
But once again, has accent.
- [120:55]
F
Sure.
- [120:55]
A
Can we kind of need that?
- [120:57]
H
You do.
- [120:57]
I
Can we get Joe and Troy maybe. Maybe Herbie and Al. I think they might be even suited for a World cup game.
- [121:03]
A
What, her Herbie Upper.
- [121:05]
I
Yeah.
- [121:06]
F
Soccer.
- [121:06]
A
Loves it.
- [121:07]
I
Yeah.
- [121:08]
A
They were close to scorn, right? No score.
- [121:11]
F
No, they weren't.
- [121:14]
A
Said. Well, almost had it. Last night was when the US Team was like, we were talking about it on the show right now. If he is watching, which there is a good chance he will text me and say, enough, enough. So then we started talking about soccer for something. I think it was Team USA was playing and out. He. He was texting me enough. And then USA played and I saw him the next day somewhere, and the first thing he said was, not, hello, not good to see. I hadn't seen him in months. He was like, they almost scored one last night. Right? And I was like, what are you talking about? He was like, soccer. We almost had a happy time. And I was like, you're such a fucking asshole. But that is how a lot of Americans feel about soccer. It's like, hey, there's not enough success here. There's not enough reason to celebrate. But I want to let you know, Pontius Dog Dogs, this US Men's national team that's about to take the next World cup, there's gonna be a lot to celebrate.
- [122:00]
F
We need a cool nickname as well. Like, a lot of these, like, international teams just have cool nicknames for the team and we don't.
- [122:07]
A
Can you give me a couple so I know?
- [122:08]
B
Yeah.
- [122:08]
J
Like what?
- [122:08]
C
The Azuri for Italy.
- [122:10]
F
Yeah, like, stuff like that.
- [122:11]
A
What is that?
- [122:11]
F
What was Netherlands?
- [122:14]
C
Azuri is blue.
- [122:15]
A
Lauren.
- [122:16]
F
Yeah, stuff like that. We need, like, we should just. We. We need Poncha's Dogs T shirt.
- [122:20]
J
We should be the. Should be the saboteurs. That was usually my name growing up on certain teams. Like the high school kids gave it to us. We're going to sabotage.
- [122:27]
A
I don't mind.
- [122:28]
J
It's great.
- [122:28]
A
But it's not our language, though. Saboteur is a. Yeah.
- [122:31]
I
If we're doing Nicknames. Let's be like the big Dongs. Like, why don't we. Why don't we have like a sick, sick nickname instead of like a color?
- [122:40]
A
So allegedly, allegedly, we were dropping Magnum condoms. Do you hear about this?
- [122:46]
I
Boom Ponches.
- [122:47]
F
Magnums.
- [122:48]
A
Allegedly. In war, there was an entire group that was put together to deceive the enemy. Okay. Like deception things. Whether they were the ghost. I think there was a ghost army that was a bunch of production people who were building like fake inflatable and everything like that. Inflatable barracks and everything like that to kind of set them off. Guards. Like we were trying to chess in 4D. Allegedly. The story goes, we flew over and dropped Magnum condoms all over the place to let them know, like, hey, this is what you're fighting against.
- [123:17]
I
Yes.
- [123:17]
A
This is standard operating procedure over here. Yeah.
- [123:20]
F
And given what we now potentially know about Hitler, that would make sense why we made quick, quick work of the Germans.
- [123:27]
A
Oh, yeah, he was micro.
- [123:29]
F
Yeah, he had a micropenis. So we're dropping magnums and you know, lemon.
- [123:32]
C
Lemon shaped. Don't forget lemon shaped.
- [123:34]
A
He walked out there, saw it.
- [123:37]
I
Nine.
- [123:37]
F
Yeah, exactly.
- [123:38]
A
So mad.
- [123:39]
F
Went right to his bunker and took the poison pill.
- [123:41]
A
See, that's what I'm saying. That's. That's what we got over here. You know, we got the next. The next level thinking poison pill punches.
- [123:48]
I
Poison pills, big penis. Yeah.
- [123:52]
C
They have been called the American dream in the past.
- [123:55]
F
See, I like.
- [123:55]
A
I like that. I get on top bad. Cuz.
- [123:58]
J
What's the best we've ever done in the World Cup? What's the best?
- [124:00]
C
Like second elimination, quarter finals, when Tim Howard stood.
- [124:04]
J
Second elimination.
- [124:06]
A
Not bad. That's quarterfinals, dude.
- [124:08]
C
Top eight in the world.
- [124:09]
I
American dream. We should be the American nightmare and have Cody Rhodes play goalie. We can just do Pontino for the lyrics.
- [124:27]
A
Pontin, Poncha Pon. Yeah, because you can hit the O at the end.
- [124:43]
I
Yeah.
- [124:43]
A
Oh, wait, him. Yeah.
- [124:47]
F
Cody Rhodes playing goalie in a full suit.
- [124:49]
I
Yeah. Halfway through the game, changing suits.
- [124:52]
F
Yeah, you're right.
- [124:54]
I
Let's put him at. Let's put him at center back. Oh, a Cody Cutter wins the. Someone's going up for a header.
- [125:00]
A
Bruce, Bruce, Bruce. I don't like the angles that Bruce is taking. This was the best we've done in the World Cup.
- [125:09]
E
We're tied. England.
- [125:16]
J
Why does it say win?
- [125:17]
G
Why do.
- [125:19]
A
This Is Bruce making fun.
- [125:21]
J
Of advanced out of the group stage? I believe with this tiger against England, it was fucking monumental moment US Men's soccer.
- [125:28]
C
Even close to the Best moment.
- [125:29]
A
Can't listen to the listen. Just know soccer is going to be big in America because our American team's going to be really good. And we've gotten a chance to now meet him through the concave pod. Everyone we talk to, we like them. And as somebody that grew up in the soccer world, boy, it's easy to spot whether or not somebody's one of the soccer players that you hate or if it's a soccer player that you like. Feels like everybody that we have on our team are right now are people that we would like. Like America would like this Luna dude. Yeah, right?
- [125:55]
J
Yeah.
- [125:55]
A
I mean. Yes, exactly. And they all feel like. I think they all have chips on their shoulder, which is like, yeah, yeah.
- [126:01]
J
Let'S try to just go start. Not like just take out the other team's best player the first couple games. Somehow, not nothing dirty, just like a good, clean.
- [126:08]
A
What do you.
- [126:08]
E
Physical play.
- [126:09]
A
You want to punch them in the Dom. Is that what you want?
- [126:11]
J
No, no, just you can shoulder them, right? Or hip check, whatever you do when you're playing soccer.
- [126:14]
A
I heard you ask Will Compton that question and we had been having similar debate over here. I don't know if you had gotten any texts from anybody about the responses. Embrace debate. Spit and face punching balls. You asked Will what he would rather receive. What do you think is considered worse? Spit and face, I think is the natural answer that that is the most disrespectful thing. Is that how you view it as well, aj?
- [126:38]
J
Yeah, absolutely. Spit and face as much?
- [126:40]
A
Yeah.
- [126:41]
J
I debut said it earlier, like, it's definitely, definitely multiple steps worse than getting punch in the balls.
- [126:46]
A
What do you think about the punch in the balls deliberately happening there last night?
- [126:50]
J
Yeah, like I. I just. Yeah, I don't know.
- [126:53]
G
I don't.
- [126:53]
J
I wonder what his thinking. He was down there, he's getting blocked in the back. All of a sudden he's got the little cast on. I see there's a good clean shot. I mean, sometimes, you know, you get caught up in the moment and that was just. That's how he responded, I guess. But yes, I can't say I've done that on the field. But you're right. You mentioned it. Like I grew up in that era as well. Like you got protect yourself when you're around dudes and I guess I never expect that on the football field though.
- [127:14]
A
Yeah, you never protect yourself out there on the field. Didn't think anybody be punching in balls now at the bottom of pile. You know, I know what you guys used to do down there, A.J. i used to tell stories about what you guys used to do at the bottom of those piles. You too, D Butt. Yeah.
- [127:26]
E
That's not real.
- [127:27]
A
Definitely a. Yeah.
- [127:28]
J
There was a game I was watching the other day when they said the ball, you know, there's a pile up whatever for a ball. And they said, that ball's changed hands five times by now under that pile. I was like, no, it has not.
- [127:37]
A
Trust me.
- [127:38]
J
Like, there's no way it doesn't happen.
- [127:39]
A
So I, I think I've told this story before. We kick off to the Dallas Cowboys at home. Cowboys return, fumble happens, scrum. I'm within five, seven yards. I'm like, fuck, I've never been a part of a powell before. Literally in the moment think to myself, oh, I've never got to do this before. Dive in. Okay, dive into the end, get hand on ball. Okay, get hand on ball, but also on other hand. And then I thought to myself, immediately, what the fuck am I to going do now? Like, I'm going to grab this from this guy. Yeah, right. The ball didn't budge at all. And then all of a sudden I do start getting, I start getting shots to my forearm. I'm like, oh, that's my drop in, right? Like I am in a bad spot right now. Like immediately get out of there. And I'm like, what the, what was I thinking I was going to do in the bottom of that? What you were saying, I think is the truth. Like, normally whoever's on it is going to end up with it, but that person is going to take some change.
- [128:28]
E
Maybe you need your butts twice.
- [128:30]
J
Yeah, maybe once early in the scrum. It's not like, hey, they've been down there for four and a half seconds and the ball's changing hands again. Like, no, whoever kind of has it first, then you can kind of get swiped away. And then you just got to deal with people punching at you, hopefully not probing you and doing things like that.
- [128:43]
A
It's always the person that is either lost the ball or has the ball that is getting all of the action though. I, I think they think like everybody in the pile is like, all right, time to grab cheeks, punch ball. I, I, I don't know if it's.
- [128:54]
E
Like worst feeling too. Like, especially like obviously defender get an interception, returning it, boom. Then it, you fumble it. It's like, oh my God. Like you try to get in there, but if you're not first, second, maybe third in there, you got no shot. Because then guys just, then you Just got to deal with the weight. You got a couple thousand pounds on you can't breathe. Yeah, that's. That's the toughest part. It starts getting real, real tight in there.
- [129:17]
A
I. Yeah, I fumbled once.
- [129:20]
H
I was.
- [129:21]
A
Was down Ed Hockey Lee. My elbow is clearly down against the Raiders. Okay. Right here. I hit a circle button. It should have worked. I was told that that would work in that particular setting. Professional athlete tackled me. That's crazy. But I was down. Hockey league didn't blow it dead. That ball comes out just full chaos on my ass. Just cuz that's where the ball's at. Unbelievably uncomfortable. I mean I believe I thought I was going to break my hips and my spine at the time. And I think I got a punch to the. To the hamstring. I think at one point it's like this is out of control and I'm looking up Hockey league the whole time like I was down. This thing is dead. What are we talking about? It was fourth down. Obviously it didn't matter. I gained zero yards. But yeah, we. I don't know if we. We can just openly have punching in the dick happening. No, no, I don't think we can have that. I don't think we can have that. No. Now if the guy has ball. Ball his Super Bowl.
- [130:11]
F
Yeah.
- [130:13]
B
They would shoot.
- [130:13]
E
Got them little different.
- [130:15]
A
And if a guy's about to take a photo next to you and he's just standing there like this. Back in our day, what we used to do.
- [130:22]
J
Yeah, that's tough time.
- [130:24]
A
Honestly just a little one of those especially.
- [130:27]
J
I'm the youngest of three too. I'm with my older brother's friends. Like good luck. I had no chance ever.
- [130:31]
A
Literally. There was an entire generation of people that felt obligated to walk around like this. Like are you timid? No, actually complete opposite. Just would like not to get punched in the balls by these guys. This guy right here. Punch me in the back every single.
- [130:43]
E
So just walking in the hallways, just passing by.
- [130:45]
A
I know we never did that. But I have heard that there was just random acts of ball tapping. I've only been associated in my area. I'm not going to speak for everybody. Just the. The sly. That's the only thing I've been part of now I've been told that one of our high school friends. Friends walked in the other day and to somebody's house. He hadn't seen him in a few months. Walked in, fake the hug. All tap, then hug. So that's.
- [131:17]
I
Me.
- [131:17]
C
That was me. And Joe Hadley ball tapped me.
- [131:19]
G
That was.
- [131:19]
A
That was us.
- [131:20]
C
That was us.
- [131:21]
I
What's his business? Tony would be a good time to get him back.
- [131:24]
C
He's always been a bully, him and Nick. That's how they were raised. They would stuff kids in lockers and slap books out of their hands and ball tap kids in the hallways. That's just who they are.
- [131:31]
A
Now, I will say Hadley is a bit handsy. You know, I've watched Hadley walk into a room. There's been a group of four people that he said hello to. Every one of them left worse than whenever he started with. First guy, full duck. Boom. Shoulder, elbow to the chest. Good to see you. Next guy, double slap of the hand, then to the face. Breaks. Watch. And smacks in.
- [131:55]
H
Face.
- [131:56]
A
Next. Next guy, big hug. Picks up back crack. Yeah. And I'm waiting at the end of the line. Hello, Good to see you there, sir. And just kind of move my way up. So that's Hadley football. He's Italian. He's, you know, he likes to get handsy.
- [132:07]
I
What do you mean by that?
- [132:09]
A
The Italians are very handsy. They're very handsy. I mean, they've been six, seven, and since. Yeah, just saying hello.
- [132:15]
I
Since the year six, seven or seven.
- [132:18]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [132:19]
I
Six or seven. Yeah, good point.
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A
Yeah, you're right. 100% right. I've been learning a lot about all that. Nope. Let's get to a break. On the other side, we got college football conversation. We got game balls that BA's got to give out, and obviously more conversation about what's okay and what's not okay in our eyes, okay? Because obviously the cast that punched the balls last night has his side of the story, too. Jamar Chase, he gave an apology to everybody. Did you hear that recently? Yeah. He put a. He put an apology out on his social media, and he apologized to the Steelers as a whole, for sure. And I guess Jalen Ramsey does fall in there, but he did not say Jalen's name. Put a lot of words together, which we're very thankful for. To my team fans, Bengals organization, Steelers organization, and the NFL community. That's a great first sentence.
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G
Yeah, it is.
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A
I could see Jamar Chase sitting at his computer going to my fam, to my squad, to my team fans, the Bengals organization and the NFL community. Oh, the Steelers organization and the NFL community. Did I miss anybody? Nope. That's fucking everybody. Nail it. Please know I'm speaking from my heart. How do we really let them know that this is real and that this message isn't coming from somebody that's not me, that is just associated with me, maybe hired to do this type of thing. Well, this one's coming from my heart for sure. Right here. Take full responsibility for my actions during last Sunday's game.
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H
All right.
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A
That's all we need to hear.
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F
Yep.
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A
Takes full responsibility and apologizes to everybody but Jaylen Ramsey specifically. We move on. Let's stop the spit. What if that's what he actually had first and then somebody looked at it? No, no, no, no, no.
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I
Come on.
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A
We need more. This needs to be 300 words. What was the old rules? 500 words. Words for essays and. Yeah, probably 500 what years were there in school. Does that still happen to you guys?
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I
Oh, it happened to us.
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A
Yeah.
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H
We.
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I
We had to do. And honestly, kind of turned into pages and they cracked down on all the gimmicks, like the spaces, periods, the double spaces after the end of sentences.
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F
They.
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I
They cracked down on those.
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A
The double space after a period is not a gimmick. That's how the English language.
- [134:53]
J
I'm talking double spacing, as in if I'm right, Physically.
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I
Right.
- [134:55]
J
Writing the sheet, you know, skipping a whole line.
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A
Oh, yeah. Well, that's because you're an artist and also your words hold a little bit more value. So obviously one line's not enough. And 12 font is. I think what they decided on was being good. I didn't like that at all, because you could always sneak 13 or 14 in there.
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F
Oh, yeah, 12 and a half.
- [135:10]
A
Especially with those plum teachers because they're so hungover while reading that thing at that time. Not all of them. I don't want to cast judgment upon every one of them, but you get what I'm saying. And they know what I'm saying, too. Nowadays they get catch against just chat GPT. Would be tough not to copy, paste and send that thing.
- [135:24]
G
Oh, no.
- [135:24]
E
They got a lot of AI detection.
- [135:25]
I
Yeah, they're very good at that now.
- [135:27]
J
Yeah. Use as an outline.
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A
You can do that.
- [135:29]
J
Pretty simple Chat GPT outline. Then you write your own through there.
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A
Yeah, yeah. Are these kids learning anything?
- [135:37]
J
Probably not.
- [135:38]
F
The ones who want to are.
- [135:39]
A
But do they know more?
- [135:42]
F
Yeah, I mean, they have more at their disposal, for sure.
- [135:44]
I
Question, but do you know less if you don't know what's a fact?
- [135:47]
A
Are we more informed or more gullible? Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. That's deep. We're back on the other side with more deep, deep, deep, deep. Sports talk.
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F
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Little bit, you know?
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Football.
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A
I think you would have got me. That's A.J. hawk. That's Coach Ba. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here.
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I
What's that?
- [137:57]
A
On hiatus podcast on your chest right there?
- [138:00]
E
Yeah. Yes, yes. On high.
- [138:01]
A
And we're waiting for season two.
- [138:02]
E
Yep. Mr. Kim.
- [138:03]
I
I hear you, man. We. We just had a convo with Mr. Kim as well.
- [138:07]
E
He's. He's. It's got a lot going on.
- [138:09]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [138:10]
E
Six, six, seven different.
- [138:11]
A
Mr. Kim is. Yeah, I'm sick of Mr. Kim. He needs to figure this out now.
- [138:15]
I
For which one?
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A
The man to man podcast? Both or the pod? Mainly the pod. Yeah.
- [138:22]
I
We legitimately just had a conversation with him two days ago.
- [138:25]
A
There's an update.
- [138:26]
I
Yeah, yeah. Sunday night. Because Again, we were planning on this week, you know, Thanksgiving treat. Here we go. Pot episode. One of our favorites.
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A
Cuz there's been a lot that's been happening.
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I
Yeah, consistently Thanksgiving is one of our favorite ones. And this is kind of our, you know, idea to launch it on Blackout Wednesday. And Mr. Kim on Sunday said, hey, boys, I.
- [138:45]
A
Who is Mr. Kim? I don't know who?
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I
I would love to. He's the best of the best, man. He's the one that stirs the drum drink, as they say.
- [138:53]
A
I didn't even know man to man was going to fall into the Mr. Kim. Of course, this Mr. Kim. Guys everywhere. And now I'm hearing my Thanksgiving pot episodes nowhere to be found. Even though it was maybe going to come and I didn't know it was potentially going to come until just moments ago.
- [139:04]
F
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, Connor and I were absolutely floored, taken aback when he said, yeah, I've pulled all financial backing.
- [139:10]
A
So Mr. Chemist.
- [139:12]
I
Yeah, I mean, we fired up the group text.
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A
I thought he's the one that paid for season two.
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F
He greenlit it initially.
- [139:18]
I
Yeah.
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F
Just like, you know what? Actually I'm gonna have to pull all financial back. I don't know if something's going on in a different sector that he's kind of.
- [139:26]
A
Hold on, Foxy. Because we allowed Mr. Kim to purchase the pod, right? Is that not if you Exactly. I trusted Mr. Kim, definitely.
- [139:34]
G
No.
- [139:34]
A
Foxy is a member of a podiac, like. And so he has had to watch the entire thing kind of take place. And me and him have been bummed out through it all, but for the good of the pod, we let this happen. Remember, you guys are pumped for me to Kim. You remember that?
- [139:47]
I
Yeah. And I mean, it's very similar, actually, kind of to the chair company, Tim Robinson's new show. The, you know, leading director on the mall just kind of came back and he said, I want to scrap this whole thing. I want to completely redo everything we were planning. So unfortunately, I think there is going to be a little bit of a redesign. Mr. Kim did mention he really wants to hear more from Mitt McMahon and D Bone. So I don't know if that means a new cast for the pause.
- [140:12]
A
I don't think this doesn't sound smart. You guys need to claim a little ownership over your shit. I've taught you. Absolutely not. You got somebody that we have never even met before bullying you boys. And you know what, in turn, bullying the Pontiacs, which me and Fox, but.
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I
See, we trust your judgment.
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A
So you gave him no you guys did this?
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I
No, we didn't give him anything. We. You gave him 100.
- [140:33]
A
No, Foxy, that's not how this went. No, that's bullshit. And did Mr. Kim say where all of his money went? Because we knew we had a lot of money when we trusted him with the pod.
- [140:41]
I
Yeah, exactly. You guys trust him with the pod.
- [140:43]
F
Just like we did watching Mr. Camp. What he does with his investments and his financial situation.
- [140:49]
D
He's very good with cat.
- [140:50]
F
None of my concern, you know.
- [140:52]
A
Sounds like you guys are getting catfished. Potentially.
- [140:55]
F
We could be. It was a phone call, it wasn't a facetime. Yeah, I didn't actually see his face.
- [140:58]
A
You guys need your fork. Apple, you need to set scene with the today's newspaper. We need a photo. You guys are getting catfished.
- [141:05]
I
Well, we know that even those things can kind of be wiggled around and I don't even. I don't even want to go into.
- [141:11]
A
Yeah, which would have been a great talk topic on the pod.
- [141:13]
E
A country running it.
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J
You know, we got.
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I
We had a whole year mapped out so we got to go all the way back.
- [141:19]
J
I mean he's got a non compete. Can you go somewhere else? Can you do it somewhere else?
- [141:22]
I
Like we ain't leaving Mr. Ken, man.
- [141:24]
A
What?
- [141:24]
I
He's the best in the business. Why would we leave something that you.
- [141:28]
A
Logged in with Kim?
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C
You do not leave.
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A
Oh, guppy. We don't need to hear Canada getting involved in this conversation.
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I
That's right though.
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A
Let's move along. College Football Playoff committee will release release its newest College Football Playoff projections off of their rankings. Nobody else's. It's one of the most important things that happen through week to week basis in college football. This group is going to set the 12 team playoff that is going to start at 12 and count down to one. Ladies and gentlemen, let's head to Hammer. AP Tone, obviously you're a college football author multiple time now at this case. What do you think the College Football Playoff committee is going to roll out this evening? And how do you think Hunter is going to do as the chair in the interview post with Reese Davis?
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C
Yeah, this week was a difficult week to predict. Oh no, it wasn't actually. That's the same exact bracket that the committee did last week and every single team won. So they have an easy bracket if they want to. Hunter just come out tonight and say hey Rhys, everybody won. Nothing changed. The one thing that that could change was obviously, obviously Oregon had the biggest win this week of these teams. They beat USC at home versus a ranked team. So Oregon maybe could maybe go to six. I don't see him maybe go to five. I don't see it though, like. Or we've talked about this since very first week. I thought the committee didn't love organisms because their lack of quality wins. So. But they did get another quality win. So maybe they do something with Oregon. But other than that, all. Every, every. Every team that was in the playoff last week or the predicted whatever that they put out one. So I don't see. I don't see much changing tonight.
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A
Okay, so we assume that Hunter will be able to come out and just reiterate the stats that he had from last week. Is it kind of chalk the rest of the way if this happened? I mean, I know top four are going to play against each other. We all assume. And then Texas Tech's got West Virginia.
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C
Yep.
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F
Which don't sleep on it.
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A
That's Morgantown.
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I
Yeah. Spoiler. Yeah.
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C
I mean, that's.
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E
What's the line?
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A
20, 24 and a half. Wow.
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D
Right.
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I
Mountaineers.
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A
Are you favored? No. Sure. Turns out. No.
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C
Pat, a lot could happen.
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A
It's the other way.
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I
Holy.
- [143:36]
A
Go ahead.
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C
There's still a lot that could happen. Like when you. Foxy. Can you go back to that for me, please? Yes.
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F
All right.
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C
So Ohio State obviously has Michigan. They haven't beat them in four straight tries. They've been the number two seed in every single time that they've lost in the fourth straight. So who knows what happens there. Indiana's, Indiana's Purdue. That's probably going to be a win. A and M's got Texas at Texas in a rivalry game, so something could definitely happen there. A and M needs to win to get in the SEC Championship 4. Georgia has Georgia Tech now. Have they looked great? No. But last year that game went to eight overtimes. Texas Tech does have W that we talked about about who's number six. Ole Miss has obviously the Egg bowl. So, you know, another rivalry game. They're only six and a half point favorites on the road at Mississippi State. Good team. Oregon's got Washington, another good team. That'll be a tough game there. Oklahoma's hosting lsu. LSU is a really, really good defense, like so. And Oklahoma's offense is very, very iffy. So if it's a defense battle, anything can happen. There's Notre Dame, goes to Stanford. Probably not going to be a great game there. Then Alabama's got.
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A
No, they got the axe back.
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C
I know they do have the axe back. And it's a 10:30 Eastern start, so maybe Tough start time for Notre Dame. And then Alabama's got the Iron bowl, which is going to be a tough one, and Miami's got to go to Pitt. So there is a lot that can happen this week.
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F
There's.
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C
There's not a lot of easy wins for teams that are already in or in the playoff bracket as we, as we look right now.
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A
Shout out to college ball. Shout out to rivalry week. Shout out to Rushmore on X. Given their best sports rivalries, Al Michaels obviously costas, Ari and Ben rattle off the sports rivalries throughout the history of sports and which four need to be etched in stone forever. It's a great episode of storytelling and great sports history, obviously, with Al Michaels and Bob, who have basically been on the call for all of these things. So it's a special episode. And rivalry week is a cool thing. Like, this is an awesome thing that college has and does in all these games. Not all of them. One of the. A couple of these teams will pound the other team for sure and they will dance in their face and hopefully they won't punch them in the balls or spit on them. That is what we're all hoping for, the rest of football as we go. But there's going to be a lot of crazy outcomes here. Just strictly off of emotion, that Egg Bowl, Ole Miss, Mississippi State will be fun. Kind of falls along with that. That'll be a fun one. A and M and Texas, I see some people picking Texas to beat A and M, very confidently saying, hey, Texas, this is when they get them. Arch playing his best football. Elko and the boys need to peak. Obviously, they're heading into the playoffs. I, Oregon, Washington. After watching that Oregon team and meeting that Oregon team, I feel like they're dogs this year. You know, the Indiana loss is obviously something that's going to happen. Indiana was a very mature team at the time. They were ahead of school schedule. I think they're playing great ball. I think Oregon's doing the same. And is this the year for Ohio state? Oh, buddy. 2,187 days. That's an interesting stat that we just got shown here from Bruce Brown. Just wild in Ohio.
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J
One more tomorrow.
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A
What's that?
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J
There'll be one more tomorrow, right? You can add one to it.
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A
That's right. Tomorrow will be 2180.
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J
I don't know. I don't know what the original number was.8.
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A
And then the next one will be 2,189, I believe, right? Yep. And then the next one will be 21 90. That's a crazy one when you go from 89 to 90, and that's one that can really trick you, you know, that's. There it is.
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E
Thanks, Bruce.
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A
There you go, Bruce.
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J
Why is Bruce a Michigan fan? Family thing, I believe.
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F
My Grandpa worked for 45 years in.
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A
A Ford factory in. In Detroit, Michigan. My dad grew up in Dearborn, Michigan, so.
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J
Okay.
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F
Does that answer it for you?
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A
Why don't you ask Another family thing.
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J
It's a family thing, I guess when they. When they win. Bruce is always talking about Michigan when they're losing. I never hear him say anything.
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G
Whoa.
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A
You'Re saying he's a front runner with Michigan Wolverines? Is that what you're saying?
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J
I don't know. I don't know.
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I
I just don't.
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J
It pops up at, you know, moments every once in a while when something happens with Michigan.
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A
Did you know him 2188 days ago?
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J
I did not. I don't think so. Did I?
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I
I don't know.
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A
Things have been very good since you've met Bruce Brown and since you know Bruce Brown. Maybe that's why. Bruce, I like that you're a Michigan Wolverines fan, and I like the Michigan Wolverines take credit for the Ohio State Buckeyes national championship last year. I like that they think that the Ohio State Buckeyes just cannot beat Michigan ever again. And I appreciate the fact that Ryan Day has had to deal with that as a national team champion. His team's number one in the country, and he still has to answer questions about, yeah, what. What are we doing about Michigan this year? What are we doing about Michigan this year? Special, man. That's a special thing to have age. It sucks. If you're at Ohio State in this.
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J
Situation, you haven't no Ohio State, you.
- [148:24]
E
Know, over the, over the.
- [148:25]
J
The course of the rivalry, Ohio State feels very, very good about where they're at. No question about that. Especially even, you know, these last four years, we understand what's happened. Michigan's done a great job. They're a great foe, great rival. But that's. That's what it is. That's what makes college football awesome. Like these games. And there's a bunch of them this week.
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A
National championship. Big deal, right? For the Ohio State Buckeyes.
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J
Huge.
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A
They lose to Michigan again. You think that propels them into another national championship run? That'd be a okay with people in.
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J
Ohio, or no, I don't not think that would be a okay, you better go run the table again if you. If you don't figure this one out. But either way it'd be. Yeah, it'll be. It'll make everybody a lot happier. Obviously, if Ohio State gets a win.
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A
Here, two score favorite.
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E
It's a lot of points.
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A
Yeah, that's a lot of points for a division game.
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G
Yeah.
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C
What was it last year, like 20, 21?
- [149:12]
J
That was a bunch last year. I mean we saw. I don't know if you watched the game last year. Will Howard, I mean, he was comatose on the field for 20 minutes and then he got up and sprinted up down the sideline and played the rest of the game like he got smoked and came back. I give him a lot of credit, actually.
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A
Yeah, he's a dog. What. What happened to the unk? There's no unk over there.
- [149:29]
F
Nah, he was playing at night 1997 for most of that game.
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A
Oh, well.
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C
Yeah, he might start this week.
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I
We know what the uncle over there is doing.
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A
What's that?
- [149:36]
C
A lot of Steelers fans want him.
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A
To start this week. I'm okay with it. You guys. Aaron Rodgers is your quarterback. What do we.
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C
What's it matter? Also, I'm still in the still loved.
- [149:48]
E
Mason time for the league.
- [149:49]
C
Also, I need to say this because I'll get attacked because people think that I'm putting Miami in the playoffs if SMU and Virginia. Virginia both win there in the ACC championship and most likely going to represent the acc.
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A
And you are trying to predict what the committee is going to do. This is not your actual. We need to make that a little bit more clear. I think this is tone trying to predict what the committee is going to do tonight off of the results that happened this past weekend. Correct? Yes.
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H
See, I got a problem with that one. When you beat Notre Dame head to head, you got the same record. Head to head wins.
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A
Okay, so that is the conversation about last week's one is what do they care about head to head wins? When did the head to head win happen? What about your other losses that you've had? Not just that particular game. I mean, there is so many different outs, which is why they'll never get the right answer.
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H
It's crazy. I don't mean what's bigger than head to head. Why do you play the game?
- [150:41]
E
That's why you play the game.
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A
Who's better?
- [150:44]
H
The guy that won.
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A
Okay.
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J
Yep.
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A
Six. Since when? The beginning of the beginning of time. Since they started keeping score of anything. The better one is the one that wins. Now granted they can say, but in a playoff situation in a neutral site with this particular action, with where this team is now versus where they were when that game happened, which has been happening since the beginning of college football kind of rankings, I think, which is a part of the problem, obviously.
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H
Totally.
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A
Yeah. Virginia Tech's about to be back in all of this, though, you know.
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H
Heartbeat. In a heartbeat, baby. But we got to get the Nears back on the schedule.
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A
The West Virginia Mountaineers.
- [151:21]
H
Yes, indeed.
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A
I don't think you want that, brother.
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H
Oh, yeah, baby.
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B
You don't want to be a good one.
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A
You don't want that, brother. Now, on that note, James Franklin and attorney guys are anything.
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H
Oh, quick, quick. I mean, we had more four stars on campus this past weekend. We probably had in 10 years.
- [151:36]
A
And then you guys lost.
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F
Right.
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H
And we lost, but five of them committed.
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A
Oh. Because they saw the vision.
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G
They see.
- [151:42]
A
They see what?
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G
It's possible.
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A
They saw.
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H
They saw Sandman and everything else happens there.
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I
Oh.
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A
How was it? Was it a great weekend?
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H
It was a good one. Yeah.
- [151:49]
A
Who said? Theo Vaughn said. I was at Virginia Tech. That was the most coordinated fan group. I couldn't even imagine coming in there and just seeing like your gladiator type building.
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H
It's.
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A
Yeah.
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H
With the corps cadets and the Marching Bandits. It's a very unique situation.
- [152:02]
A
And James Franklin is a dog.
- [152:04]
H
Oh, he's. He's on that state. He's on Mid Atlantic recruiting now for the last 10 years.
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A
I say I've never. Nope.
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I
Not gonna say.
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F
You gotta think that conference is pretty gettable too, when Virginia is the big bad wolf.
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A
Yeah.
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F
If you're a kid coming in, Virginia's.
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A
Not the big bad wolf.
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H
No.
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F
Right now they are.
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A
Mario Cristobal is there.
- [152:24]
F
Yeah.
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A
But they.
- [152:25]
F
There's a chance it's gonna be Virginia and SMU in the acc.
- [152:29]
A
Rhett Lashley's a problem. He is Dabo Sweeney, Water beast down there. That boy, boy Bill Belichick in the acc. And the story is Manny Diaz, Duke. Where does he end up at? Who knows? The story is Virginia Tech is going to be good again. Congrats to you guys.
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H
Yes, indeed.
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A
Congrats to you guys.
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H
Let's go get you out of the Big 12, man. Get you back with us.
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A
You don't want that. See, I don't like the way you're kind of saying that you would like to schedule us because that's not good for you guys. It is.
- [152:58]
J
He didn't say kind of. He's pretty. Seems pretty adamant.
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A
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But he's not saying it for the good of rivalry. He's saying it sounds like cuz he wants a duck Is that what you were saying?
- [153:05]
H
No, no. Because it was such a great. That was like the rivalry when I played. You know, we didn't play Virginia that often. We played West Virginia. That was it. West Virginia and Florida State.
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A
So the people at WVU told me. Because as soon as you said that and I was like, yeah, I never got a chance to be a part of. Except for we had Virginia Tech at home. I never got to play there. It was at the end of the scheduling. I never got to play down there. Sucks that has to be an elite electric place. Especially because they make you stand out there while they're doing it. So like while they're doing all their. You are standing out there just kind of waiting and feeling. I think it's a real home field advantage. Like I think it's actually a weapon especially.
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H
But nothing compares to the old Mountaineer Stadium.
- [153:42]
A
Yeah, brother.
- [153:43]
H
Because it was always Mountaineer day when we played them and they passed out chewing tobacco and the spit all over you when you came in. Keep your helmet on.
- [153:52]
A
Boys flying out of the stands. You were walking near their splatoons. That was where their. Their splatoons were. What'd you say?
- [154:00]
E
Throwing batteries. Yeah, they used to do that.
- [154:02]
A
Who?
- [154:03]
E
Bush league.
- [154:04]
A
Where?
- [154:05]
E
Right out there. I didn't have many good times out there.
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A
We're good, especially against you guys.
- [154:11]
E
We're really a lot of night games. Like Thursday, ESPN night games.
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A
Yeah, we were good against you guys. We had a of lot of highlights, a lot of good moments. Pat White decl. Four year guys, I think.
- [154:23]
G
Yeah.
- [154:23]
E
Now Yukon and West Virginia kind of go opposite directions.
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A
What do you mean by that?
- [154:28]
E
You're just talking about acc.
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B
We.
- [154:31]
E
All year against acc. We got Heisman finalists. We got a Bnikov finalist.
- [154:35]
A
Who?
- [154:37]
E
Heisman and Bnikov.
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I
Which team back?
- [154:40]
G
None.
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A
You have a. You have a Heisman family member playing for Yukon Race now?
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I
Oh, yeah.
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A
What's the guy? Mikey Heisman.
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E
Joey.
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A
Joey.
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E
Joey Heisman.
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A
He's a member of the family. Like how far removed from the Heisman family is.
- [154:53]
E
No, no, no. He's playing quarterback for the Yukon Huskies.
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A
Right now in his last name is Heisman. Why are you bringing up Heisman?
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B
I'm.
- [155:02]
E
I'm going to. I'm going to make his last name Heisman until he's in New York and he gets.
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A
So he's not a relative of the Heisman family.
- [155:08]
E
What are you saying?
- [155:09]
A
You're saying he's up for the height. Heisman Award? Yes, he's gonna win it.
- [155:12]
J
D but insane.
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A
Yeah. A Yukon quarterback is up for the Heisman right now.
- [155:16]
C
Joey Fanato.
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A
What's his name?
- [155:19]
F
Joey Fanata.
- [155:21]
H
Oh.
- [155:21]
A
I've seen this guy on the Internet.
- [155:23]
C
31 touchdowns, one reception and it's pretty good.
- [155:26]
H
He.
- [155:27]
C
He probably not gonna go to New York. But the wide receiver is actually up. He's one of the three finalists for the blitnikov. So dbutz is right about the wide receiver too.
- [155:34]
A
Oh. So I would like to let these two incredible football players.
- [155:38]
E
Scarlet bell is a wide receiver.
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A
Like to let scholar Bell know that it was cute what you did at Yukon.
- [155:45]
H
Jimmy Moore is doing a hell of a job too.
- [155:47]
E
Oh yeah. Him more back to back nine. Nine win seasons.
- [155:51]
A
No, they need to come to West Virginia. Stop it.
- [155:54]
E
No, they.
- [155:56]
A
They need to come to West Virginia.
- [155:58]
E
Nope.
- [155:58]
A
Mr. Fano needs to come down there back up Scotty Fox.
- [156:02]
J
Yeah.
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I
You don't need to get you b.
- [156:03]
A
So Scotty fox can play quarterback and Mr. Fano can be the backup. Mr. Bell, obviously we got an offensive line. It's brewing. We love to throw you to rock. Are you guys going to be able to keep these guys?
- [156:14]
E
I hope so. So you know the state of college football is tough.
- [156:19]
A
Independent Ohio state's throwing that ball Bell next year. Oh my God. Julian S jace back there.
- [156:26]
I
Oh.
- [156:26]
A
Who's the blind off Warner guy from U. Yukon?
- [156:28]
H
Yeah.
- [156:28]
A
He's part of buckeyes now and that's his 13th touchdown of the year. That'd be great. That sucks. That's where we're at. If you would like to say we're in the same boat. That is where you would that if we were to create a blitnikov at either of our schools which it sounds like you might have done.
- [156:45]
F
See ya.
- [156:47]
A
Smoking and I don't like that.
- [156:49]
E
I hate it.
- [156:49]
H
Yeah.
- [156:50]
A
I don't like it one bit.
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I
Running back for the Buckeyes right now.
- [156:53]
A
He's really good ball player. Leading tackler right now from Missouri. Really good football player. These guys cut their teeth in Morgantown. Now it's the hard edge boys who have come into Morgantown. They're going to feel pride building that place back up to what it's going to be. So other schools are going to certainly give them more money and sell them hard whenever they have their success. These boys aren't budging. And that's mountain out near difference. And that's why you don't want to schedule us.
- [157:22]
H
Okay.
- [157:23]
A
James Franklin's going to get those guys in there.
- [157:25]
H
They're staying. Price is right. The deal is real.
- [157:29]
F
He might flip.
- [157:30]
A
Kevin Brunt don't keep your everything away from him. Kevin Brown's big time recruit.
- [157:37]
H
Bad boy. He's a bad boy.
- [157:38]
I
Yes.
- [157:38]
A
He. Yeah. You need to stop. This guy is a part of the the Virginia Tech entire thing. It's got guys actually part. This is tampering. We already signed this. We?
- [157:50]
J
Nope. No signing. Nothing is on paper.
- [157:53]
E
Not allowed soft verbal commitments.
- [157:55]
A
This guy told us was not soft.
- [157:58]
H
This goes way back to the 70s. I first started college coaching. I'm recruiting in D.C. and the guy he signed with Kansas State coaches. I don't mean you see, Price is right. The deal is real.
- [158:09]
A
No, Kevin Bron is a mountaineer. Welcome to herding.
- [158:12]
H
Back in the day.
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A
Yeah, well, nowadays it's even worse.
- [158:15]
H
I mean it's legal now.
- [158:16]
A
Yeah. Not worse, but better, I guess for the player. But certainly a little scary. Kevin Brown's gonna flip around in Mountaineers. He's got a hard edge through a three. He's not gonna. You see his dad, Kevin.
- [158:25]
I
Yeah. Kevin Brown's papa and grandpa aren't letting him. Not dawn. The West Virginia Mountaineers.
- [158:32]
A
That's what I'm talking about. See that?
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I
This is grandma's idea.
- [158:38]
A
Great idea. It's awesome. And I like how comfortable they were with it all. Just spray gas on the car. Do you see that? It's pretty good country. You've seen they've done it before. Get that gas. There was one little kid kind of doing it and then dad was like, you know what to do.
- [158:50]
F
Give me that thing.
- [158:51]
A
Shut up.
- [158:52]
F
Give me that thing.
- [158:53]
A
Douse it. Just huge. The fires that they have built just from watching that, the amount of trees that have come down. Everything else they have built, I would assume epic fire tires out there from the looks of the comfort level.
- [159:07]
J
Oh, you can see them for miles, I bet.
- [159:09]
A
Oh, yes. Oh, people gather around. I assume there's music playing, having a good time boozing around that someone's playing the guitar and he's a mountaineer.
- [159:19]
H
It might have been a little bit of alcohol. Not him. Bob.
- [159:24]
A
Tim.
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F
Brian. Pops.
- [159:26]
G
Look.
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E
Straight edge.
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A
Yeah. Tim.
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I
He's locked in.
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A
Do you see that, Ed?
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I
Oh, yeah.
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J
I like your kick slides good.
- [159:34]
A
Thank you. It's only getting better too. Kevin Brown saying he's gonna be a mountaineer. I've been watching his film. Do you see that? Me putting that foot in the ground.
- [159:42]
H
Your quads aren't quite pretty good though.
- [159:46]
A
He's got great quads.
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I
Oh, my God.
- [159:47]
A
You need to stop complimenting. Let's move along. Let's get to you compliment there. It is just dumping again. Do you know what to do with it? Dose that thing. Douse that thing. How about him say we got some connection issues. We got some connection. Probably we're going to get through that. Here we are. Yeah, we're bringing couch burning back to Morgantown. It's like, all right, I don't think you should actually do that. But we understand what you're saying. The metaphor is good times and success like it was back in the day. We love that. College football is crazy. The College Football Playoff committee will do their thing tonight. We will certainly judge them on how they see the top 12 teams. Now let's get to some complimenting of some NFL guys from ba. Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen. As we wrap up this glorious Tuesday, it's time to celebrate a couple players who had epic weekends for their teams. It's time for BA's game balls. Let's start in the NFC, Bruce Arian.
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H
Oh, maybe the second best backing ball, if not the best. Jameer Gibbs. Man, what a, what a day against the giants. I mean 219 yards, 45 receiving, three touchdowns. I mean just blew it open and get another about 70 yards run right up the gut. I mean because he get more long runs up the middle than anybody ever seen.
- [160:56]
A
Okay, so let's talk about that a little bit. What is that? Because there's people that are a little bit worried about the interior of the offensive line for the Detroit Lions. But it does feel as if Jameer Gibbs is able to break free through the middle. Whenever we're watching the highlights. Is there a thought on their better run blockers than they are pass protectors as an offensive line or what is kind of your take on that?
- [161:15]
H
Yeah, I believe that's the situation right now. They're pass protection was very, very leaky against the Eagles, especially up the middle and it is against everybody. I think one thing Detroit's problem is they have a lot of seven step drops. They don't do a lot of quick passing game. Everything's up the field, up the field, up. And they couldn't protect against Eagles but they run the block. They run block as good as anybody in the league.
- [161:33]
A
Jameer Gibbs pound in the ground so fast. I think he said 22 miles an hour. He got up to on the overtime run. Outrageous speed for Sonic.
- [161:41]
E
Yeah, I think I saw next gen St stats like the top five fastest ball carriers. He's four of the five. I think Jonathan Taylor was up there at top number one. But he is so explosive like when he hits the gap. I've never seen a guy outrun angles like he does. Like safeties. They'll be 8, 10 yards ahead of him and he just outruns it. And he, he's like looking.
- [162:00]
J
That should not be a touchdown debut. That should not have been a touchdown. It's unbelievable. The fact that he's able to score on that run is just crazy.
- [162:06]
A
I like the moxie too, to walk.
- [162:07]
E
It in like this right here. Like if you pause and you look at the safety, it's like, okay, it's an NFL safety. Like you want to at least get to a point where you can push him out.
- [162:16]
A
He looked like a punter, kicker.
- [162:17]
E
He's just staring at him like. Yeah, no, it's crazy like how he outruns angles. You mentioned it. Up the middle, bouncing out. And he's becoming a threat in the past game as well, more than last year. So. Yeah, it's going to be tough to get Monty Knuckles more carries with zero doing what he's doing.
- [162:31]
A
That's a real thing. They got to stable in the backfield, you know, Sonic and Knuckles. And then you get one guy who's just doing like historic. How do you handle it?
- [162:38]
H
You play the one that's got the hot hand and. And the other guy accepts his role.
- [162:43]
A
Yeah, but you got to talk to him about that.
- [162:44]
H
Oh, you got to talk to him. Yeah, I bet you feed him. You know, hey, I'm. Put you in a goal line. You score studs, get your stat.
- [162:50]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Got you. Hey, we'll get you a toad. We're sorry. This guy's running all over the place.
- [162:54]
H
We'll get you a couple of teddies then go.
- [162:56]
A
Yeah. Which I think obviously keeps everybody happy. If you're winning, everybody's happy. So that's the NFC AFC game ball went to Jameer Gibbs, who I think Everybody's impressed with 256 yards total or whatever the case is. Three touchdowns wins the game for him. Now let's go to the afc. Who's got the game ball?
- [163:12]
H
The Houston sack station.
- [163:13]
A
Oh, not the Houston space station. Houston. We do not have a problem at getting to the quarterback in Daniel Hunter and Will Anderson Jr. They're special and they built their team around them. That is. They got liftoff, baby.
- [163:25]
H
They got liftoff. Oh, these two cats are coming off the edge. This Houston defense is legit. I mean, big time demico's got him really playing.
- [163:33]
A
Remember, they trade up to get Will Anderson. They bring in Daniel Hunter and pay him. The old Colts teams used to have Dwight Freeney in the hall of Fame. Robert Mathis, semifinalist for the hall of Fame. I obviously would like to see him get in there because of what he's done. The most strip sacks in the history of the NFL. And an absolute beast came through as a special teamer. Small hbcu. I mean, just his story is awesome. If he was getting hall of Fame, I think his stats would lead to it. But also, I think the story is awesome for football, but we used to get a lead and then these two guys would just take over the game. Feels like Houston's doing something similar.
- [164:02]
H
Yeah, I think that's that right now, their offense, they're actually playing a little bit better with Mills playing, and they get the lead, it's over.
- [164:10]
A
Why is this something that is unstoppable? Whenever you have two guys, it's because you can't chip, you can't slide, you can't protect. Well, if you're going to keep your back and your tight end in, who.
- [164:19]
H
The hell's getting open? Bup nug. All blocked up, nowhere to go.
- [164:27]
J
Makes sense.
- [164:30]
A
All right, on that note, we appreciate the hell out of you, BA Happy Thanksgiving, BA Happy Thanksgiving, BA Yeah. BA Favorite side? Favorite side for Thanksgiving.
- [164:41]
H
Green be casserole.
- [164:45]
A
That's a little old school. Haven't heard that.
- [164:46]
H
It's old Pennsylvania, baby.
- [164:48]
A
Oh, yeah, My mom, actually, she's. I don't want to say my mom's a great lady. Doesn't do a lot of cooking. Green bean casserole, though, was always the play, I believe, whenever it had to show up. Are you a mashed potato guy?
- [165:01]
H
More stuffing?
- [165:02]
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [165:04]
H
Mashed potatoes all the time. But stuffing is perfect.
- [165:07]
A
Special. I mean, he's got the right thoughts. Turkey or ham? Turkey. Ham. Can. Both.
- [165:11]
H
Both?
- [165:12]
A
Yeah, why not?
- [165:13]
H
Oh, yeah.
- [165:13]
A
Apple pie, pumpkin pie.
- [165:15]
H
Lemon. No meringue.
- [165:18]
F
Okay.
- [165:18]
H
No meringue.
- [165:19]
F
Okay.
- [165:20]
H
Just lemon.
- [165:20]
A
Have I ever had just a lemon pie? I think I've only been presented with a lemon meringue.
- [165:24]
I
You could buy a couple lemons, just take a bite out of them like an apple if you want, after the show.
- [165:28]
A
That was an interesting. That was an interesting thought. Like, do you remember when people used to. I'm not getting into it. Stevo and Jackass.
- [165:36]
F
Lemon juice in their eyes.
- [165:38]
A
Yeah, they would just eat it, too.
- [165:39]
H
Oh, yeah.
- [165:39]
C
Oh, yeah.
- [165:40]
A
That was something you were doing. So let was the. I thought the meringue was the tasty part.
- [165:43]
H
Nah, just a lemon, man. Gotta have a little bitter taste and jump in there.
- [165:47]
A
What time we starting to eating? What Time is we are always about a 2 o'.
- [165:50]
H
Clock. You know, go play football. Come in, eat. Go play basketball.
- [165:56]
I
Oh, yeah.
- [165:57]
A
Happy Thanksgiving.
- [165:58]
E
Eat again.
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A
Hello. Before we get out of here, we got to celebrate something special. Ladies and gentlemen, a man who is no really made a name for himself around this Thunderdome man who's slowly starting to kind of roll into the country music business. Yeah, he actually released his first award show awards list just a week ago called the DBAs. A lot of people are saying, is that the douchebag Awards? No, it's not a lot of people. That is the D Bone Awards. Okay. D Bone is a special talent. D Bone is a national champion and D3 offensive lineman. And D Bone self taught himself how to be a graphic designer. And D Bone has survived another trip around the sun.
- [166:40]
H
Wow.
- [166:40]
A
It is D Bone's birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday to you. Happy birthday.
- [166:57]
G
Hey, dear.
- [166:57]
A
Can you get on camera, please? Get on camera, please. See there the camera. Z, get on the camera, please. Get on the camera, please. Come on. Happy birthday. We love you, Debone. We appreciate you, buddy.
- [167:17]
E
Great awards too.
- [167:18]
A
Great awards. I think you got them all right. They got them all wrong.
- [167:21]
G
Yeah.
- [167:21]
A
Vocals, especially if you ask deep DB of the dba, I think next year he's potentially going to put it in a location and have this award show actually take place.
- [167:29]
I
Okay.
- [167:30]
A
And we might actually get a couple of these attendees. Maybe we've already set the seed a little bit for maybe next year. The DBAs have a couple of these award winners in attendance. And I do believe if you're looking to win an award next year and you say you'd come to the DBAs, I think you'd win an award. So just something to think about. Any of you aspiring young artists out there looking to win an award that nobody really knows about yet? It's on the come up.
- [167:55]
H
Yeah.
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I
Talking to you, Mr. Worthington.
- [167:58]
A
Cheese.
- [167:59]
I
Oh, yeah. Love you, Jake.
- [168:01]
A
Yeah. All right, let's get out of here. Happy birthday, Bone for Bone. Maybe me and Foxy give him a birthday gift of a couple wins in U ball. No chance. Especially after them coming to the back room when we have a basketball court out there covered with camera cameras and they were standing in a spot that didn't have a camera. That was insane. That's your department, bro. Happy birthday, Bone. That's your department. That's your department. My God.
- [168:27]
J
I didn't. Hard to avoid all the cameras there. Actually, if you try, it's hard to avoid them.
- [168:31]
A
Really legit. I think I mean, look at all that space.
- [168:36]
J
He's in the one spot kind of that you can. They're in the bathroom.
- [168:39]
A
Basically, there's seven cameras that cover this court right now. Okay, you're just seeing one that we obviously cut to. There's seven.
- [168:46]
G
Boom.
- [168:47]
A
There's security cameras. There is live. There's one up on the top. There's one over here. There's one over here. There's one up over there. And on this stage, Obviously, there's like 20 different cameras that we can kind of turn and shape in every different direction. Back there. We got four cameras, I think. How many cameras do we have in the back there? Ptz? No, just the one, I guess. Just the one. We used to have two. Now just the one back. See, that's a problem. Debone was trying to point out something. He wasn't here when that one was here. No, of course, but Debone's just saying, you know, we need to find a camera to find me.
- [169:19]
F
Got a couple blind spots back here.
- [169:20]
A
He did say there is a couple blind spots. Happy birthday, Deon. Thanks for making us better.
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I
Happy birthday, Bone.
- [169:27]
A
All blocked up. Nowhere to go.
- [169:29]
H
No, I said, baby.
- [169:30]
A
Bug bu.
- [169:32]
H
Bug, bup, nug.
- [169:34]
A
Let's hope. Let's hope Tom Brady doesn't try to say that on tv. Tony, why don't you come on out here, bud? Geez, that can't be that stuff. Stuff. Just the immediate. Oh, my God. I don't want to listen back to it. You should. I don't want to deny it's close.
- [169:57]
F
I think Burkhart gave him a.
- [170:02]
I
No blandino.
- [170:03]
G
Dude.
- [170:05]
A
Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Shout out to you, ba. Shout to you, too, Debug. Happy Thanksgiving, man.
- [170:10]
E
Thanksgiving.
- [170:10]
A
What's the sides? What's the sides?
- [170:12]
E
Oh, you can just play that song. I like them all, but I'll probably have to go yams if I had to with sweet potatoes.
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A
Yeah, yams are delightful. I. I too, am a sweet potato man myself. And obviously stuffing. Just party in there.
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I
Guy who's eating lemon pie like stuff. And that's a good sign for you.
- [170:32]
A
I don't love that. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We're in this thing together, ba. Anything for the team here.
- [170:38]
H
Great show. Better one next week, baby.
- [170:40]
A
Hell yeah. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team goodbye.