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PMS 2.0 1471 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, NFL Week 15 Recap, MNF Preview, Scottie Scheffler, Adam Schefter, Seahawks Kicker Jason Myers, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Pat McAfee
Hello, beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this magical overreaction. Monday, December 15, 2025. This sports program begins now.
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Connor Rogers
Football.
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Pat McAfee
It's the greatest. In Week 15 of the NFL, Sunday Slate tied a record that the NFL has had for the most teams to come back with at least a 10 point deficit. It was magic and chaos across the entire slate. Brian McCarthy, the NFL PR who answers his phone by saying mccarthy here and you say, wow, you're out of a movie. Well, the movie that he's from is the NFL is the best league on earth. And every stat that he puts out says that six teams won in Week 15 after trailing by at least 10. That ties a single week record. It was the Buffalo Bills who were down 21 zip. Actually had me put out a tweet that said, wow. Belt to ass. In Foxborough. It's the dawn of a new chapter in the AFC East. You could tell that Mike Vrabel was telling the boys, everybody's talking about Josh Allen. Josh Allen, the Buffalo Bills, the time is ours. We are the kings of this AFC East. 21 zip. The entire world's going crazy. Travis Scott's going absolutely ham. Stefan Diggs is doing his thing. I thought the Patriots were about to catapult themselves into a different stratosphere. And then Josh Allen said, please, is it cold as hell right now? Are we still the Buffalo Beals? Are you still in my world? Five straight touchdowns. They end up getting a huge win in what was a beautiful comeback. But they weren't the only ones. Seattle Seahawks saw a 10 point deficit and came back. Obviously we didn't expect that from their beautiful team. The Rams were able to do it. The Saints don't look now. Shuck might be an actual player. And the storylines coming out of week 15 are special. There's five headlines that we'll hit here in a matter of moment. The talks tables here at Boston. Connor. Sorry, man. At Ty Schmidt. Sorry, man. We'll have Adam Schefter on here in a little bit to hopefully give you a little bit of an update on what's happening around the Green Bay Packers. Seemingly everybody that's good on your team got injured yesterday.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, basically anytime you lose four starters, you know the loss is just secondary. So now it's just, hey, you know, band together, getting the get in the foxhole together and let's go win one.
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Pat McAfee
Half of the Hammer down Cowboys. AP tone Pittsburgh Steelers host the Miami Dolphins tonight is three point favorites. I think it's going to be an electrifying game if it's anything like the rest of week 15.
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Tone
Yeah, the dolphins have been really, really hot. And the Steelers obviously still playing for number one in the AFC north after the Ravens victory over the Bengals yesterday. It's going to be an awesome one tonight. Steelers love Monday Night Football at home. They've won 22 straight at home. So that's on the line tonight.
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Ty Schmidt
It's.
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Tone
It's a big one.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. TJ Watt missing obviously last week. There was a dry needling situation that took place that ended with a partial lung, something, I don't know, a collapse. Had emergency surgery. They're not ruling him out for the rest of the year. For the playoffs. Definitely out for tonight. The Steelers record, whenever he's not playing, not good to his record playing in the cold, not good. Push comes to shove here. The Miami Dolphins got up to Pittsburgh early. Try to, you know, kind of combat the elements. Get used to it. They won practice of Robert Morris, Bobby Moe, home of Walley, which we all obviously know in Pittsburgh. I believe it's South Hills of Pittsburgh. Not 100% sure. Nonetheless, cold as hell. They were getting after it. Saw some good snags, saw some good pads thudding up. Saw guys getting used to the cold weather. They're going to have to deal with tonight. This is meaningful football time. Meaningful football time. Two and the boys in Miami haven't been able to play well tonight. Can they continue to lurk? Can they continue to move in the afc? Let's go to the other half of the Hammer Don Cowboys. Bubba Gumpino Gumpy. It's a Hammer Don show tonight on Monday Night Football. Dolphins hot Steelers. Not your thoughts.
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Tone
Just got to keep pounding the rock. HN Ollie Gordon, Jalen Wright last game over 100 yards. Throw the ball 10 to 15 times to that's all we need.
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Pat McAfee
Here's a hembo stat. The Dolphins rushing during their four game win streak. 769 yards, averaging 5.7 yards of tote, 42 first downs, 24 explosives on the ground. That's a lot of fun. HN has become the guy around the league and obviously they have seven touchdowns through the rush game over the last four games. Will they be able to do that against this Pittsburgh Steeler?
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Tone
That's a good question. So when rookie first round pick Derek Harmon is in the game, the Steelers opponents are rushing for 95 yards a game. When he's out 195 yards a game, he is questionable tonight. So it is a big, big difference. If Derek Harmon gets a go tonight, that'll make a huge difference for the run defense.
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Pat McAfee
Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler joining us. Looking very cool. South Florida, obviously native Miami Dolphins fan amongst many other teams because he was a Dolphins fan and because he was a professional football player, he picked up numerous teams. This Dolphins team still lurking. D. Bucks and with the Col Dolphins very much still lurking.
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Darius J. Butler
Very much lurking. You heard what Gump said, kind of a different team. You think about the Dolphins, you think about speed, you think about finesse and a lot of people call them soft. Whether you're a player, you cover the game. So this is a huge opportunity to kind of change that narrative around them. They've been running the hell out of the ball. We know the Steelers, they've been struggling against the run. Love the fact they went up there and practiced. I don't know how many times you've seen that then. Didn't see a lot of sleeves or hoodies or I saw a lot of, a lot of skin, some Vaseline on the arms. So I like that.
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Pat McAfee
What's the temperature tonight?
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Tone
17.
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Pat McAfee
17 degrees. Any precipitation?
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Tone
No.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so it's going to be clear skies. I will say the snow makes it feel warmer. This is somebody that is from the cold. Anytime it's snowy outside, it's like, wow, it feels warmer even if it's not like so whenever it's just brisk and cold and no snow, you think to yourself, wow, it's cold as hell and it's not even fun. Like I can't even kind of see it or anything like that. Hopefully the Dolphins are able to battle. Hopefully we get a good game tonight. We should expect one. With how this Week 15 slate has been. Now it's time to get to the top five. Top five, top five, top five top five headlines coming out of week 15 of the NFL season Driven by Ram Truck. And what you do know about Ram Trucks is the Hemi V8 is back. It's fired up and raring to go. Motor Trend has chosen the Ram 1500 as its truck of the Year.
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Ty Schmidt
Wow.
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Pat McAfee
Wow. We're at awards.
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Ty Schmidt
Wow.
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Pat McAfee
It is. Motor trend is Ram 1500 is truck of the year for 2025. Congrats to them. Ram Trucks also back on the track, returning the NASCAR Craftman Truck series for the 2026 season, which obviously we talk about all the time. Now I don't want to talk about RA Too much because the boys might take it in a different way because they watch Brad Pitt race this weekend and all of a sudden we might have some new G1 fans around the Thunderdome, which I certainly did not expect. But let's get to the top five headlines of Week 15 of the NFL season. Listen, we're in prime football season. We're in meaningful football season. We're in the time of year where football teams are playing their absolute best. So your team's going to lose a game, potentially your team, it's not over until it's over. If you're still in it, it's okay if you lose. So if you're the Patriots to the Buffalo Bills after having a 21 point lead, it's okay. That's going to happen. A lot of good football teams, what you can have happen is you can't be deemed from the playoffs and go, listen, new teams have been added to the playoffs, gone list now, obviously, Jets, Browns, Titans, Raiders, Commanders, Giants, Falcons, Saints and Cardinals have already said, what are we playing for? Absolutely nothing. Maybe the future. Add in the Bengals and I'll tell you what, with this Bengals team, they get their ass beat by the Baltimore Ravens. Still lurking, the afc. The Baltimore Ravens. But from what Joe Burrow said last week, where Joe Burrow was saying, like, what's the purpose of doing this? Period? This kind of sucks, man. Not having any fun. This kind of stink, I don't know, am I a football player anymore? Then you stick to yourself. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe. Jojo, we need you to be enjoying this. We need you to be loving this. Also, you're the quarterback of an NFL franchise, Cincinnati Bengals, who have bet good on you. Can't have you wondering in the middle of the season whether or not this is what you're supposed to be doing. Then he had the opportunity to get on field in AFC north battle against Baltimore Ravens, another team that's kind of been in a year, and make up for it, maybe start having some fun. Nah, he stunk.
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Connor Rogers
Zero fun.
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Pat McAfee
They stunk. They get absolutely obliterated by the Baltimore Ravens. Al Van Noy makes a heady decision. Get the ball out of his old ass hands and they take a pitch six all the way back. But the Ravens absolutely thump the Bengals. And going into the game, we wondered if Joe Burrow likes football. Now, we know there's no way he can enjoy anything about this. So, D but my question for you about this Bengals team is like, hey, whenever you sign Jamar Chase and T. Higgins to number one wide receiver contracts and you pay Joe Burrow and it doesn't seem as if you're investing in the defense at all and your offensive line moves have never really worked. Will you ever win with this particular recipe? Everybody that knew ball going in the season said probably not. Like in the history of ball, this is not a way to win. But if you don't win, life is not fun. Is Joey B. At the situation now where because they suck and because there's no super bowl dreams and aspirations, he's not enjoying what he's doing? Or do you think maybe Joe Burrow's a human and there's some stuff going on in his life plus the fact that they're ass that maybe it's combining right now for not a great time of his life? And we shouldn't worry about what the future holds for Joe Burrow. This is just a chapter or an era that will move on.
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Darius J. Butler
I'm not worried about Joe Burrow yet. I'm not worried about his future. You mentioned it. They are humans. They are dealing with a bunch of things. But when you are a franchise quarterback, people don't necessarily care about that unless it's something huge, a huge tragedy everybody knows about. If you're a franchise guy, you know you're getting paid a ton of money. You talked about the receivers getting paid. Joe Burrow was a big part of the receivers getting paid as well. Now people in charge of putting the team together, you can still have to put a team up there that can get out there and compete. So to be on this list, to be eliminated before week 15 is even over, that's.
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Pat McAfee
You're.
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Darius J. Butler
That's. That's never where you want to be with one of the best young quarterbacks in the National Football League. But I'm not worried about the future of him. I don't think we knew Butter was going to be in the building. I think that had. That had a huge effect on the game. Obviously, Lamar showed up in the AFC north battle, but I hate to see Joe Burrow at this point in the season potting.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I don't want to get it. It does.
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Darius J. Butler
He's.
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Pat McAfee
He's potting.
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Ty Schmidt
He's potting.
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Pat McAfee
It does seem like he's potting, but we would like to let him know we're big fans. Joey, we love you in the football world. We appreciate everything you've done. But it feels like with the way that team is constructed, we didn't know if you're ever going to be able to win a Super bowl or not. So we hope that's not necessarily what is keeping your happiness alive. We hope it's the process. We hope it's you becoming the greatest which you certainly can. And maybe I don't want to throw it out there, but we've seen some people in the past have been going through some things, go down to a rainforest in central South America and come back with a whole new mindset and maybe. And win an MVP and do it again and win another mvp. So whatever it is, Joey, we hope you find it again. The Cincinnati Bengals are officially gone from the playoffs, as are the Vikings after a huge win. J.J. mcCarthy goes for 250 yards. He's grading in the end zone in prime time, playing his best ball. Still missing by a mile on some. Sure. But. And even admitting that he needs to get a lot better in the offseason. So hopefully the future is brighter for this Minnesota Vikings team.
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Darius J. Butler
A lot of important games left for them.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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Darius J. Butler
For him. Because this is. These are valuable, very valuable reps for J.J. mcCarthy.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. And what I was. Yes, I think very valuable reps down the stretch here for this Minnesota Vikings team. But what we're saying is there's no meaningful games actually because they are gone from the playoffs. On that note, the Dallas Cowboys, who lose in prime time, 2, 9, they are damn near gone from the playoffs. What is everything that needs to happen for the Cowboys? Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
So they have about a 1% chance to still make the playoffs. They're not dead yet. They just need the Eagles to lose all of their games and they need to win all of their. The Cowboys. Cowboys need to win all of their games. So we'll see. Hey, stranger things have happened.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, stranger things. Not a bad show from what I've been told. Never watch it. Stranger things certainly do happen in the NFL. But the Dallas Cowboys damn near gone from the playoffs. And what the fuck is a walkie talkie doing in the owners now? They're saying it's for direct communications to the sideline for medical. So is every owner have a walkie talkie that's not trackable or anything like that in communication? Is that going directly to that guy with the cowboy hat? Is that a walkie talkie? Strictly to the big cowboy hot medical guy. Nonetheless, we know the Jones family took some big swings this year. We know that they got rid of a superstar bonafide who is no longer finishing the season with the Green Bay packers because of a believed to be torn acl, which we are all hoping not to be a torn. ACO and Micah make a couple trades, do their thing, lose the nine in prime time and now they're damn near gone. And then also the team that is eliminated from Playoffs, which is very abnormal at this stage of the season. The Kansas City Chiefs are officially gone from the playoffs.
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Tone
Yeah, they are.
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Pat McAfee
Which leads to the number four headline, a decade of dominance. A dynasty delayed or deleted. Will this dynasty have to have a new chapter? Will this dynasty be able to continue for another 10 years? Maybe another 15 years? Will Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes be able to carry it from one chapter to the next a la the New England Patriots? Remember the story of the New England Patriots? There was a 10 year gap between Super bowl wins. Now there was two Super bowl losses in between those 10 years, both to Eli Manning and the New York Giants. Eli Manning probably getting into the hall of fame for those two in 2007 and 2011. But 2004 to 2014 is a 10 year gap where the Patriots didn't win a Super bowl, they're still considered a dynasty. Will that be what happens to the Kansas City Chiefs? Is that what we're staring down or. Or Chris Jones a little older? Travis Kelce obviously, maybe at the end of his entire thing. Andy Reid, it's talked about every single year. Is he going to keep going? Patrick Mahomes, is he going to be able to continue to just put the team on his back? Are they going to be able to reload and kind of renavigate what the future looks like for a potential dynasty? Or are they deleted and are they done forever? Oh, no. That's a question we have to ask because they didn't make the playoffs for the first time in 11 years. You're talking about record breaking stuff. Throughout the history of the NFL, teams have made it to the playoffs consecutive amount of times. Patriots obviously won forever. The Chiefs, the number two team in the longest running consecutive playoff run. And then we see one pick from Derwin James right in front of Travis Kelce and all of a sudden it's over. Completely, officially. And the Internet was waiting for their demise. The Internet was celebrating in all of our faces about the Chiefs being dead. But we've seen this before with another dynasty now. Now granted, the Patriots once again, they continued to go. They continued to do their thing. Chiefs missing the playoffs. Are they dead? Is it done? Or is it just simply delayed? Con man?
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Connor Rogers
Yeah, definitely not done. Maybe delayed. There's a chance, you could argue, you know, maybe the Mahomes Reed dynasty together is done. You know, that's the one thing that is the glaring difference between the two. Andy Reid is basically how old Bill Belichick was at the end. You know, right now. Yeah, they probably have 10 more years. As long as Mahomes is there, their dynasty will never be done. But it's definitely going to change a little bit. And I would assume that maybe they saw the writing on the wall. You know, not many teams release a 10 part docu series before a season, you know, to commemorate the three Super Bowls they went to. Straight to three, they've already won as well. But definitely sad anytime it goes out with a player on their shield. You know, Mahomes getting carried out, the vibe changes and it is a bummer to see. You never want to see anything end like that.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. And if you think about the beginning of this entire run that the Chiefs had back in 2014, life was a lot different then. You remember the ice bucket challenge got launched then?
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Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Remember Flappy Bird?
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Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah. Great game.
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Pat McAfee
Flappy Bird was in too many people's phones, taking up too much time on people's lives. The person that created it was like, we gotta get rid of this game. Yeah, deleted the game. People who had phones that accidentally still had Flappy Bird on it for some reason because they didn't update the software were being sold off online for like hundreds of thousands of dollars because they were an ancient artifact, basically. This flap that was in 2014, graduated high school, then high school, graduated from Boston. Connor his second time getting that done. Happy was the song Shake it off from Taylor Swift. You think she was even thinking about Travis Kelce whenever she was singing Shake it off? I mean, 2014, long time ago. A lot has changed in the world. And now we're sitting out of time wondering if this Chiefs team's gonna be able to continue to go in the future.
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Tone
Yeah, for the future when you look at it. I saw a tweet yesterday about, you know, the Chiefs have a lot of work they need to do to this roster and they are 31st in the league in cap space next year. They are $35 million over the cap for next year currently. So with. With all that needs to potentially be fixed with the Mahomes injury that happened yesterday and then the cap situation, it might be tough for a couple. I mean, you still have Patrick Mahomes.
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Pat McAfee
On that note about the Patrick Mahomes injury, we're at that time of the year and we have been here for a while where an injury to the wrong position can derail everything going forward. Ladies and gentlemen, it is. It is my not honor the opposite dishonor. To say number three headline coming out of week 15, NFL Sunday slate is injuries are dookie. Okay, there's no other way to describe it. When you talk about dookie, you're talking about absolute shite. You're talking about nothing good. You're talking about negativity at the highest degree. You're talking about dookie, man, runny, stinky, absolute crappy Dookie is what these injuries are. And if you were following along on Redstone or all the different games, these injuries all took place within about a two minute period. Micah goes down, Patrick goes down, and then Devontae has sniper to his hamstring. You're talking about three megastars who have had record breaking years in record breaking season and record breaking careers for these particular teams. Teams all going down in a matter of two, three minutes. Micah Parsons, that was nasty little hyperextension situation whenever he was just heating up and becoming a closer. Ty, your negativity about this particular injury has scared me a little bit. But Mike has become this damn important to this defense so damn quickly.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, without a doubt. I mean, you know, yeah, the packers are still a good team, but like he is the difference maker. He has eight and a half sacks in the fourth quarter. Like there's a reason they were calling, you know, playing enter Sandman and calling him Mariano Rivera because the packers haven't really been blowing anybody out this year. Like the offense has been doing enough and then boom, in comes Micah to close out the game. And it's not just him, it's. I mean it's no question if you watch the games, he makes everybody better. And you know, is it one of those things, where am I all doom and gloom? Do I think that it's just completely done with now? No, I don't believe that. The packers are still 94 and 1. But it is very hard to imagine seeing him being out for the year like now. Do you, do I think they can make a deep run in the playoffs and win a Super Bowl? Like no, I don't necessarily believe that that is still on the table. They could still do it, but Micah Parsons is the best player on their team and one of the best players in the NFL. And for it to happen at this point in the season when they're just starting to get healthy, like it's a backbreaker.
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Pat McAfee
Green Bay packers, obviously team we thought could win a Super bowl right now, odds on favor to win a Super Bowl, Los Angeles Rams, they lose their touchdown machine, their touchdown factory, their Devonte Adams sniper while running a go route middle of the game, obviously didn't look good. Anytime somebody pulls up with a hammy, obviously not good. When you're 30 some years old. What are your thoughts here? D Butch on them losing Devontae, still have Puka, obviously insane. Puka is insane. Still have Kyron Williams, still have Blake Corum, still have multiple tight ends, even guys that I've never heard of making plays for him. But losing Devonte, this added weapon not only down goal line but in third down and in red zone. Is this going to be a big enough hit to derail the Los Angeles Rams or what should we expect?
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Darius J. Butler
I don't think it'll derail them. I think they'll still finish fairly strong. The thing about them is they've kind of changed throughout the system and morphed this offensive to using a bunch a lot more tight ends. So a lot of 13 personnel. So that's only one wide receiver on the field. So now Puka can obviously be that one wide receiver even though Devonte was that one wide receiver and 13 personnel for the majority of the season. But when you have another superstar like Puka who would still demand that coverage, still get the production, I think they will still be okay, especially with the run game and the defense and hopefully with this soft tissue injury he can be back full go by the playoffs. So this isn't as a huge of a blow as these other injuries on this graphic.
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Pat McAfee
We'll stop by with schefter here about 1240 to kind of see everything he's hearing. Devonte a little older now though.
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AJ Hawk
Yep.
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Pat McAfee
Any muscle injury Obviously in theory the older you are, but he's going to hop in that ammortal chamber.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Is that what's happening right now?
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Darius J. Butler
Slept in there in his game, you know, it's not like he's you know, Christian Watson or like a, a burner.
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Ty Schmidt
Who he got hurt too.
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Darius J. Butler
But no Jameson. Yeah. Williams, a lot of injuries over there. So his game is finesse and, and making big time catches. Reading coverages being that matchup in low red area. So I think when he is back in there full goal, he'll still be the Devonte that we know.
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Pat McAfee
And then obviously Patrick Mahomes is the injury that we chatted about to even start this entire injuries are dookie. I mean this is face of the NFL. This is the man leading, you know, a dynasty right now in front of our eyes and our face. Before he was like 27 years old, he had already built up a goat type legacy, a goat type resume, multiple times super bowl champion, always remained a human. You know, everybody started hating him obviously because he's Patrick Mahomes. He's on top of the world, still would have beers with the boys, still kind of do his thing was trying to live his life while being under the microscope of being the guy who's leading the entire. The biggest league on earth. He put out a tweet, obviously, that was like, hey, I'll be back stronger than ever. But whenever you see these types of stats, you understand that we're in. We're watching greatness happen. And he said he'll be back stronger than ever. Don't know why this had to happen. And not going to lie, it hurts. But all we can do now is trust in God and attack every single day over and over again. Thank you, Chief's Kingdom, for always supporting me and for everyone who has reached out and sent prayers. I'll be back stronger than ever. And we love that type of work ethic. We love that type of mindset. That is why he is who he is. But this sucks for the league, Dee Butt. This sucks for the league that we lose Patrick Mahomes. Whether you love him or you hate him, when he's on TV, he's must watch.
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Darius J. Butler
Yeah, you want 15 playing, you want him in the playoffs, you want to see him play. I mean, it's super unfortunate, not only for this season, but we don't know how next season looks now for him or the Kansas City Chiefs, but unbelievable hit to the National Football League. It's crazy. He still hasn't and won't take a snap. You know, being mathematically eliminated from the playoffs in his career. And that list you just put up with him having, having five more wins at this point in his career, like that is ridiculous. If he's done, let's say, obviously he's not done. This dynasty, if this Chief's dynasty is over, like we talked about a little bit ago, that'll still go down. It's probably a Mount Rushmore dynasty when it comes to the NFL.
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Pat McAfee
He's got, I believe he's got two kids under the age of four or two right now. I mean, but he'll be back.
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Tone
He's got nine months till September, so that's right on time.
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Connor Rogers
Right? He'll be back.
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Pat McAfee
I agree. But let's just think about the human like, hey, Mama Mahomes, good luck out there, man.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Got a guy. Yeah. Not that, you know, he's mvp. He's a starting quarterback in the NFL. Obviously, a lot of time is allotted to that. But now he's not gonna be able to move. I mean, that is. There's a lot of Stress, just like whenever we're talking about Joey Burrow, it's not just like, hey, in the facility, it's in my life. It's like, hey, we got humans here, not just a video game. So whenever you talk about everything else happening with Patrick Mahomes, we're only pulling for him for the good of the league.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah. And I think, you know, like, he's. I mean, he's obviously been banged up before, and I don't know about college, high school, all that kind of stuff, but like, like, this is the first time he's had an injury of this magnitude. You know, same with like, Micah, like those guys where all of a sudden, for the most part you stay healthy throughout your entire career. And then you get something like this where it's like, hey, you're going to be down for nine months like that. Learning how to deal with something like that when you've never had to deal with it before, like, you can understand how it's. It's quite the blow.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, we'll miss you.
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Darius J. Butler
Mahomes, by far the longest break he's had. I know it's rehab and it sucks, the injuries, but like every season he's gone at least to the AFC championship or the Super Bowl. So like, like, that's a much shortened offseason. So now you gotta. Offseason starts now. And you know, that'd be the longest by far he's ever had a LeBron run.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, I remember LeBron was making it to like the Eastern Conference finals every year for like 10 straight years. And then somehow, shortest offseason and doing it again going forward. Patrick Mahomes had to do that. And this year he was running more than ever, a lot more. Running more than ever. Hitting people more than ever. Like, and that rarely happens as a goat's career goes forward. You know, normally as the goat goes forward, the contact gets less. This year he was running more, hitting more, getting hit more. And it's kind of a crazy how it's all gone. But to your point about the rest, I mean, recovery is not rest. It sucks. What he's about to get through sucks. All these injuries, every injury you hear about, all you hear is a timetable. Like a nine months he'll be back. Hey, this guy should be back by the playoffs. From that point of injury to when they come back sucks. That whole thing sucks. Hurts. The amount of time that it takes, the monotony of just having to do this little tiny things every single day very rarely gets talked about. We try to point it Out. Patrick Mahomes. Life is about to suck to get back being healthy, as is obviously, Micah, as is every other injury that we see take place. So all we can say is Godspeed.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah, and we talked about the cap there for a second. He actually might get a pretty sweet extension, which is good to maybe kind of motivate him even more in the middle of this offseason. Can continue to work.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, maybe he gets that ammortal, couple of those in his backyard.
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Connor Rogers
Creates a lot of cap space. Maybe gets a receiver, may maybe one back from Miami. I don't know. Just. Just things that could happen.
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Pat McAfee
They see. Tyreek H. You okay?
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Tone
I was just thinking about him.
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Pat McAfee
I'm not. I'm not getting. I don't want to get too negative about it, but, like, I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna say it. Well, it's like, I don't want to say it. Joey B. Saying he's not having fun. It's like the way you guys built the team. We all thought you guys weren't gonna be able to win, right? Like Tyreek Hill, when you took the bag to go to Miami, the thought was, you're not. You're not gonna win.
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Darius J. Butler
No.
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Connor Rogers
When you go.
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Pat McAfee
That was kind of the thought. No, hey, you're leaving a dynasty to go get paid down there. You're not. You're not. Probably not gonna win as much. And then there's like a. Well, I want to win. It's like, well, we kind of all. We all knew that this is kind of what the case was. It's just like Max Crosby, like, Max knows they're not going to win, right? Like, that is kind of the thing. He just continues to show up, which we. Massive respect. Myles Garrett, you know, if he next year says, like, I'm tired of not winning, it's like, well, we told you. You knew. You even wrote it.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, you wrote it.
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Pat McAfee
You even wrote it. Like, you're not going to win. So it was like. There's certain situations where it's like. Like you kind of. I don't want to say sacrifice, but you did kind of acknowledge that this was not going to be kind of with each other. And then it kind of all happens, but once again, want everybody to be happy. Want everybody to have cake and eat it, too. Eat it, too. Speaking of, let's go to the number two headline out of week 15, the Legend of old Man Rivers. Hey, Phil. Thank you, man.
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Darius J. Butler
Proud of you, Phil.
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Pat McAfee
I am proud of you, Phil. I'm very proud of you, Phil. It's not just us, obviously. The boys in which he coaches down there In Alabama, the St. Michael's Super Duper football team that has made back to back playoffs. Them watching Uncle Phil coach old man Rivers score his first touchdown in five years in an NFL game as he finds Josh dines over the middle. They have an incredible lead. Wait a second, are the Indianapolis Colts and Phil Rivers all the way back? This guy fell down, got back up. He looked agile. Maybe the most agile grandpa in all of football. And after the game whenever he gave a quote that I think everybody needs to hear, I think the baby face turn for Phil Rivers was in full effect. A lot of people burying the Colts for signing Phil Rivers. Now once again I would like to reiterate the fact I am a Cam Newton fan, always have been. It's because I watched him play live. I think anybody that watched Cam Newton play or had to play against Cam Newton.
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Darius J. Butler
Yep, my teammate too play with him.
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Pat McAfee
Exactly. Says Cam Newton's allowed to say whatever he wants about football. Cam Newton is football. He can do whatever he wants. The whole thing about is Cam Newton a better quarterback than Phil Rivers? Is a wild conversation to have because I don't know if Cam Newton just knows the entire Shane Steichen offense, which Week 15 in the middle of a playoff run. I don't know if it's the right time to put somebody in that doesn't know the offense. Now was Riley Leonard, who's been in the building all year, who's very athletic, was he a better option than Phil Rivers? I think that argument is certainly viable. But somebody that doesn't know the offense coming in in the middle of what the Colts are thinking and hoping is a playoff run doesn't seem sound to me. It sounds like you live in a video game world as opposed to real life world where you don't just drop into a building and then download the offense and then you're on the same page as everybody so that you can operate a football team efficiently. Matt Ryan and the Colts had problems for his entire time because he couldn't learn the offense or the verbiage and then the offensive line couldn't and it was an absolute catastrop catastrophe. So bringing in Phil Rivers felt like a move. The Colts were like, hey, we're not giving up on the year and we need somebody that's able to fucking do our offense and do our things. And also somebody that commands a little bit of respect. You know, defense, offense, special teams, everybody in the building like hey, we like that guy. And also a guy who happens to be doing something from a coaching standpoint that is incredibly inspirational. Listen to this quote from the post game from Philippines Rivers, hopefully. You know, certainly I think of my sons and those ball players, you know, that I'm in charge of at the school that they'll say like crap, coach wasn't scared.
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Darius J. Butler
You know what I mean?
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Pat McAfee
It's like, shoot, sometimes you, there is.
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Connor Rogers
Doubt and it's real.
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Pat McAfee
And you again, you can, you can. The guaranteed safe bet is to, is to go home or to not go for it. And the other one is shoot, let's see what happens, you know, and so yeah, I hope that in that sense, sense that it can, it can be a positive to some young boys, you know, or young people, not just be boys. But yeah, it was Phil. Oh yeah, anybody can do nothing. As the legend Ted Williams said. And then him going on there, go for it. And the boys seeing it, his kids seeing it and also all of us getting a chance to see that was a special thing, a beautiful thing and almost won it like groupy. 60 yard field goal with less than a minute left to put the, put the Colts in the. That's the longest field goal in the history of the Indianapolis Colts. Blake Groupie this big. This guy is a monster. Groupie shout out to you. Coming back to the state of Indiana and making a big time kick for us. He walked right on the field too. There's no question. It was fourth down and there was probably a little bit of an indecisiveness. Fourth and three, what are we going to do? Groupie just walked his ass onto the field. Shane Siken saw it and had to go, well, dad, Gummit, I guess we're going for this field goal. He puts it through Sam Darnold gets a big return from their special teams, then they make a couple plays and then Jason Myers puts it his sixth field goal through the uprights and the Seahawks beat the Colts 18 to 16. But the story for me coming out of this is not only the Seahawks are a damn good football team and Jason Myers is unbelievable. He leads the league in field goals made this year. He's going to be all pro and a Pro Bowler. He's a special talent out there for Seattle. But also the Indianapolis Colts didn't give up. They showed up. And Phil Rivers, obviously the arm isn't what it used to be. Made a couple big throws whenever we had to and they protected his ass and his messaging about, you know, you're allowed to go for it in his life, if he could have something, was special. I'll remember yesterday for a long time.
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Darius J. Butler
Yeah, man, I really, really wanted to win, obviously for a ton of reasons. But Phil, for him to go out, this is something that I know I've never seen before. Somebody take five years off and they actually come out there and have to play. And then he was in full control. Like the first drive he was up, you know, checking with seven, you know, eight seconds on the clock, you know, changing plays. Obviously his arm, it was what I expected, I guess, to see from his arm, wouldn't have dropped down the field a ton. But he made plays and he had us in position to win a game in a hostile environment against a very good football team. So I'm encouraged for him and I think this definitely gives us the best chance to compete going forward with, you know, all of the available quarterbacks that are out there right now.
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Pat McAfee
You talk about a very good football team, let's just talk about the number one headline coming out of week 15. In our eyes, the NFC west is the NFL's best. This group out here is outrageous. Seattle Seahawks, obviously not on their home home field advantage. This dude, no laces, sick. Looks so cool. This dude, very good at football. McDonald, his defense, unbelievable. A lot of people are saying you needed a 50 some yard field goal to beat the Indianapolis Colts, who are playing Phil Rivers. Colts are good football team. Colts are a good football team. And Phil knows everything that's going on. The Los Angeles Rams, Outrageous. Matthew Stafford had an MVP like year. And then the San Francisco 49ers. Brock Purdy's doing his dance.
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Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Brock Perry's pump faking 20 yards down the field. San Francisco 49ers obviously beat the Tennessee Titans. Everybody's doing that. But this Niners team with Christian McCaffrey, with Brock purse, even though they're without Warner and Bose on the defensive side, it's like, are the Niners going to make a run at the Super Bowl? Feels like everybody but the Cardinals and the NFC west can do that. And this has happened in the past. Whenever the NFC west has been absolutely dominant, they have shown up as a Super bowl champion.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah, 20, 21. The four, five, six seeds were the Rams, Cardinals and San Francisco 49ers. So it is one of those things where you would think, okay, maybe the division will cannibalize itself, but rather, instead, you know, the best of the best, the team that won the division, the Rams ended up going on that super bowl run and winning the super bowl against the Bengals.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. So there's a chance here that the NFC west does it again. And I would say as a Colts team that had to play Seahawks this past weekend and we got the Niners on Monday Night Football. We're going to find out if this NFC west is for real. Feels like the NFC west is problematic. AFC west, also very good at the football. AFC east has a couple teams at the top with one lurking in the Miami Dolphins. AFC north, everybody considers that to be the trashiest division in ball. The AFC south, the Jacksonville Jaguars in the league. Congrats down there in Duvall. And Texans are also problematic. Number one defense in the NFL, Texans actually have better odds to win a Super bowl than the Jaguars do right now. That's because I think the Texans defense is number one in the league. And I don't know if everybody believes in Trevor Lawrence, even though he goes for six touchdowns yesterday. Five through the sky. They are for real. NFC Nick north, things have changed now with some injuries and then the NFC south, who's going to punch their ticket to the playoffs is really the entire question. So that's top five headlines coming out of the NFL. Now let's talk about a headline that we're about to create in another sport that we absolutely love. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the greatest golfer on earth said that. Weird. The greatest golfer on earth, ladies and gentlemen, Scotty Scheffler.
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Connor Rogers
Scotty.
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Pat McAfee
Scotty, how are you, buddy?
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Jason Myers
All good.
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Scotty Scheffler
How you guys doing?
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Pat McAfee
Dude, amazing. Great to see you. How's life? You look good. You look clean. You look young. You look like you're rejuvenated. How's life for Scotty Scheffler right now?
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Scotty Scheffler
Yeah, life is good.
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Jason Myers
Yeah.
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Connor Rogers
Clean shaving this morning.
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Scotty Scheffler
Doing well, Enjoying some. Enjoying some time at home. But get ready, you know, gearing back up for the the season to start in January.
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Pat McAfee
I don't want to be, you know, just bring up negative things. Texas, not in a college football playoff. Dallas Cowboys eliminated from the playoffs. Okay, I don't want to say football. Paul didn't show up for you this year, but you show up for everybody every time you get on a course. And we have the distinct honor to tell you I believe it's a surprise, even though you should probably already expect this to come. Congratulations, man. You have been named the Jack Nicklaus Award winner for the best PGA Tour player voted on by your peers for the fourth consecutive time. You're the first time to, you're the first, first person to win it four consecutive times since Tiger Woods. Can you please tell me a little bit about the Jack Nicklaus award and what this means to you whenever it's voted on by your peers as opposed to maybe outside of golf.
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Scotty Scheffler
Yeah, I. I mean, that's really cool. I definitely did not expect that coming on here today, but, you know, it's. It's a cool honor. It's when you're able to receive the vote of your peers, I think that's something that's really special. You know, that means a lot to me. The guys I'm playing against, week in, week out, for them to vote for me to be player of the year is something that's really special, and that really does. It means a lot to me. Tough to put into words what it's like to win it for the fourth time. I definitely never imagined that, but it was a great season. I was hoping to be able to win the award again, and so I'm very fortunate to receive the vote of my peers. And, yeah, it's pretty exciting.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, it feels like they put the C on your chest. That's kind of what this feels like. I know you guys aren't a team or anything like that, but it feels like you've been voted by your peers to be the one. And anytime we see you playing your must watch television. But this past season, it felt like, I don't know. And if you have, let me know if you started smoking weed, I would like to smoke weed with you. But it did feel like there was a time last year you started, like, being a little bit more comfortable with being the face of the sport, maybe being the face of the pga. I think back to, you know, whenever you gave your full answer, very transparent about, like, what is this all for? Like, what is this whole thing? And then I think when you were given answers, you started being a little bit more open than maybe in years past. It felt like you were, I don't want to say too humble on a microphone, but it did feel like you didn't really want to be a voice. You more so wanted to just be a player. Have you felt like, hey, I'm the face of a sport, I should talk a little bit more, or have you just gotten more comfortable with the situation you're in? And I don't know if that question makes sense or if you are smoking weed or not still.
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Scotty Scheffler
Definitely not. Definitely not smoking weed.
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Jason Myers
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
But if you do, I would like to do that with you and on a golf course.
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Scotty Scheffler
No, I mean, that's a good question. I think the amount of time I've been put in front of a microphone over the last couple years has been a lot more than the years before that. And so I think just being in the spotlight, having to do press conferences each week, stuff like that, I think I'm just in front of a microphone more. And so I think even the guys in the media will get tired of asking me the same questions because I'm going to give them the same answers. Most of the answers don't change that much. And so every now and then, I'll get an interesting question and I'll try and elaborate on something, but. But I definitely don't. Don't think of myself as the face of the sport or anything like that. You know, I'm just trying to be myself. I love playing golf. I love being able to compete, and that's. That's what I love to do. And hopefully I'll be able to do it for. For a long time, but for the time being, going to enjoy it. And then, yeah, when I get asked a question, I try to answer it as honestly as possible, but outside of that, I don't. I don't really think about it too much.
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Pat McAfee
All right, well, you are the face of the sport, and we're lucky as hell that that is the case. And with how much you play play, we're very thankful, and the PGA is certainly thankful as well. Tone has a question for you.
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Tone
Yeah, Scotty, obviously winning this four straight times, you have done a lot already in your career. So when you come into seasons now, do you continue to have goals to, in your mind, have a successful season? And is one of those goals this year, potentially, to get your career Grand Slam at the US Open at Shinnecock.
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Pat McAfee
I believe, is where it's at.
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Scotty Scheffler
Yeah, I would say that going into years and going. When you look at my career or when I look at my career, I have what I would call dreams and aspirations. But I'm not one of those guys that sits out the beginning of the year and says, hey, I want to be. I want to have four wins at the end of the year. I want to have, you know, be top 10 in a certain category or anything like that. I try to get the most out of myself each day. And I think when you're preparing to go out and play, the majors are always in the back of your head. I think those are the tournaments that mean the most to us as players. But at the end of the day, when I'm at home practicing, I'm just trying to focus on the things that I can focus on and get Prepared to go out and play. The thing that is most important to me is my preparation. I want to be able to stand up on the first tee and tell myself I did every last thing that I could do in order to play well, and now it's time to go out and compete. So sometimes it feels as almost. Almost as if my preparation and my practice can be more stressful than going out and playing times can almost be more freeing just because I feel like when I'm at home, you know, that's when the real work is done.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, that's how all the goats talk, by the way. Practice supposed to be harder than the game because you need to be comfortable and confident whenever it's time for the game. And it feels like obvious there's no situation on a course that you haven't been fully prepared for. People talk about your spin, your distance control, all these other things. Tie as a question for you.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, speaking of all that, Scotty, when you go into the off season, because I think people who, they watch you week over week, a lot of times it'll be like, oh, Scotty had his C game this weekend, and he still got a top five. And then when you're. When you have your A game, you're a Terminator and no one can touch you. Like, is there anything going into the off season where you said, like, hey, I specifically need to get better with my wedges or, you know, with my woods, or is that not really how you approach, you know, when you practice in the off season?
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Scotty Scheffler
That's a good question. I always have. In the off season, I always have one sort of point of emphasis that I'm looking at. And so depending on the seasons, you know, some. Some years it's been I wanted to get stronger in the gym. Some years it's been I want to improve my diet. Other years it's been my putting or creating more shots going into the green. I always have kind of that one area that I'm really put an extra emphasis on, but I'm always trying to work on all aspects of the game. I mean, golf's one of those games where you're just. You're trying to perfect a game that is impossible to perfect. And no matter what, you can always be trying to get better. But I've never really been the guy that has completely revamped a swing or completely changed something. I think in our game, we're always just looking for those small incremental improvements and doing those little things in order to improve and the margins out on tour I feel like are so small these days. You know, you have got guys that have so much talent and are so highly competitive. You're always just looking for that little bit of an edge.
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Pat McAfee
What was the point of emphasis this offseason, if you don't mind telling us?
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Scotty Scheffler
Kind of getting my strength back and my body back where it needs to be. You know, last off season with the hand injury kind of set me back a little bit. And going into the year, I felt like I battled a little bit more staying healthy than I would have liked to. And so going into this offseason, I was trying to get back in the gym, do a lot more recovery stuff than I would normally do and really try and get some of that inflammation out of my body and continue to get stronger.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, we gonna be wearing skin tight clothes. No, no, no. Yeah, let's get the rip. Let's get six back out there. Yeah, let's go.
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Scotty Scheffler
I mean, it's funny, like, you want to get stronger, but you also don't want to completely change the fabric of the things that I've done. You know, it's like if in golf it's such a fine line between, you know, trying to improve, but also not kind of removing that DNA. And so my body's been a certain way for the last four or five years. I don't want to drastically change that, but I want to continue to get healthier. I want to make sure that I'm putting myself in a position where I can try and play this game for a long time. And, you know, that's. That's kind of been the focus this offseason, especially the last month or so.
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Pat McAfee
Brother, I completely understand. I ate and drank terribly for a long time. It got me into the NFL though. Got me in the NFL. So then in off season, I'm like, I feel like I shouldn't be this fat. This can't be good. But then I'm like, but this is what got me here. Let's not, let's not change. Was not broke or let's not fix what's not broke or whatever. And then I realized once I got into shape, turns out you do get better. And, you know, so, you know, I can appreciate the fact that, like, wanting to change, but we can't get rid of what we already have. On that note, feels like every time you were golfing, all I would hear the commentators say is like, this guy's ass at putting too. Like, wait until he's able to putt and do his thing. Go ahead, D. Bud.
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AJ Hawk
Yeah.
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Darius J. Butler
Being the number one golfer in the world, how. How tough was it to make that switch? I guess, from your traditional blade to a mallet putter, then even the gr. Like, how. How. How difficult was that to make that change when you're already on top of the game?
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Scotty Scheffler
Yeah, I felt like. So the year I struggled pretty, you know, a good amount on the greens was 2023. And at the end of 2023, I felt like I needed to make a change. And we were coming home from the Tour Championship, and I decided to hire a putting coach, Phil Kenyon. And so Phil came in a few days later from the uk he flew right in. And we got some work in before the. The Ryder cup in 2023, 3. And made some changes immediately. Saw some benefits early in the year, the next year, and then in 2024, I had. I had a great season. You know, we saw some small improvements at the beginning of the year with some technique stuff. And then going into. I think it was bay Hill in 2024, we had looked at a bunch of different putters and a bunch of different options and ended up going with just a generic spider putter. And I went into Bay Hill. Just wanted to give it a proper test best, you know, before in the past, when I made changes with my putting, it was like, if I tried it for one week and it didn't work, I'll just move on to the next thing. And that wasn't really a good way to get better. You know, you needed to really give it a chance. And I had a lot of confidence in Phil and the stuff we were working on, and I had a great week that week. And so after, I think I won Bay Hill, and then after winning the hill, I'm like, well, I can't. Can't switch putters now. And so I used it again the next week, and then I had a lot of success that year.
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Darius J. Butler
Year.
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Scotty Scheffler
And then going into the. The offseason in 2024, Phil had almost built up a little bit of a rapport with me. I trusted him after a full year of work. And the claw was something that he had wanted me to try since the beginning, but, I mean, really, I just hadn't worked with him enough, didn't really trust him enough to. To make such a drastic change. And, you know, we tested that out in the Bahamas last year, and it went really well. And I felt like I could improve my putting inside 15ft. And, you know, that's the results that we saw in 2025 was a big improvement. And in my putting from that distance. And, yeah, right now, we're in a.
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Pat McAfee
Really good spot, so we're staying with it.
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Scotty Scheffler
Same with it.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, I like that. And I appreciate the fact that you said, this guy's from the UK I don't know if I need to just be buying into everything he's saying. He's going to have to earn it. On that note, go ahead, con man.
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Connor Rogers
Yeah, Scotty. I'm more of a casual golf fan, and the United States losing to England in the world, basically, in the Ryder cup, essentially broke me as a golf fan. Are we going to win the Ryder cup, or are we just going to dick around every time it comes around? Because, you know, it's basically. Basically caused me not to, you know, have too many sleepful nights because of this.
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Scotty Scheffler
Sleep less or sleep full night?
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Connor Rogers
Both.
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Pat McAfee
You take your pick.
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Connor Rogers
It's a nightmare. No pun intended.
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Jason Myers
Yeah.
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Scotty Scheffler
The plan is definitely to win the Ryder Cup, I think New York for all of us. But, you know, that's one of the things I always hang my hat on, the preparation. And I stepped up on the first tee at Bethpage, and I had done quite literally every last thing that I could possibly do in order to play well, and it just wasn't in the cards that week. We put up a great fight on Sunday, and hopefully we'll use that momentum going into. Going into 20. Gosh.
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AJ Hawk
What.
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Scotty Scheffler
What year is it going to be? 2027.
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Tone
Ryder Cup.
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Connor Rogers
Yep.
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Scotty Scheffler
It'll be going to be a long wait, but, you know, we're going to continue to be prepared, I think. I think our team's in a good spot. I felt like we learned a lot at Beth Page, and, you know, I think. I think it puts us in a good position going forward.
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Pat McAfee
You're the man. Congrats on the fourth consecutive Jack Nicklaus Award for Player of the Year voted on by your peers at the PGA for last PGAC season. January 15th, I believe. We have an event coming up that you're gonna go claw your ass through all the different greens. And we appreciate your service to sport, man. You're a great one.
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AJ Hawk
Well, thanks.
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Tone
Thanks, guys.
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Scotty Scheffler
Appreciate y' all having me on.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, let's stay out of jail. Yes, sir.
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Ty Schmidt
Jail.
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Scotty Scheffler
Stay out of the kitchen.
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Tone
I can't do anything.
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Pat McAfee
Amen. Amen. You're right with the hand. Yeah, I forgot about that. Ladies and gentlemen, Scotty Scheffler. Congrats to him. That was cool. He's the best DJ every time. Like, would you like to surprise Scottie Scheffler? With his fourth consecutive Jack Nicklaus Award. It's like, we could talk to Scotty Scheffler, please. Yeah, we need to happen on Monday. It's like overreaction Monday. That's a lot of time. Scotty Scheffler. Yep. No problem at all. We're very appreciative of him. Now joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who has more information on all the very important things that have happened around the NFL. Okay. Senior NFL Insider for ESPN Michigan. Man. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter. Shefty.
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Adam Schefter
What is going on, Pat?
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Pat McAfee
I don't know if you tweeted it or not. Breaking news, Scottie Scheffler, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year award winner by his peers in the pga. Congrats to him. Let's get right to the massive news happening around the NFL, though. Injuries obviously can derail entire seasons, let alone what it does for the players. Have some massive ones yesterday. Any updates on any of those? And what, what should we be thinking about some of these teams that suck? Covered devastation, losses at key positions?
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Adam Schefter
Well, Mahomes obviously took the test last night, so that came back. He's got the torn acl, which is just terrible. You have to wonder again how long it'll keep him out now, how much damage was done. They'll go into the knee. Hopefully it's just his acl. We'll see if there's any other damage in there as well. But obviously the start of his season next year obviously has to be in question right now. Hopefully he can make it back. He's built different, differently. He does things that nobody else does and has done that physically before. And hopefully that's the case right now. Micah, they'll do an mri, but it's going to be a torn acl. Like, I mean, you can see the moment he did it, when it happened that the leg bent the way it shouldn't have. He reached right down. Non con. I mean, it was all there. Like you're watching, you know, I mean, I'm not a doctor, but I've seen enough of these now, you know when somebody seriously hurt. Now every now and then there's a surprise and the guy's not. But in this particular case, it's a devastating injury. And after the game, Matt LaFleur acknowledged it didn't look good. They. They know what they know right now. I mean, it's not.
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Pat McAfee
Let's stay with the Packers. Obviously, Micah comes in, becomes a closer, does something that no NFL player has done, gets 12 sacks in his first five years, entering his prime. Obviously huge for that Halfley defense. He wasn't the only one that got hurt for the Green Bay Packers. The Green Bay packers suffered a lot of injuries yesterday. Who else?
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Christian Watson, Zach Tom, the right tackle, and Evan Williams, one of their starting safeties.
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Pat McAfee
Any updates on any of those out of Green Bay? Shefty.
- [49:43]
Adam Schefter
Christian Watson's father tweeted last night that that his son was fine so that it seems like he's okay now. What's fine is that he misses a game. Fine is all relative. But he was sent to the hospital. He was allowed to leave the hospital. He was allowed to go home with the team. His father says he's fine.
- [50:02]
Darius J. Butler
Sign.
- [50:02]
Adam Schefter
So all the signs obviously are encouraging for Christian Watson, Zach Tom and Evan Williams. I don't have specific updates on. They were checked. They were ruled out early on. So that's not great. But, you know, here's a team that already was missing Elton Jenkins was missing Devonte Wyatt was missing Tucker Kraft. And I thought Rex Ryan made a great point this morning. He's like this feels and looks a lot like the Lions last year where they're the best team in the division. They're going to be a force in the playoffs. They'll still make the playoffs, but you could only withstand the loss of so many great players before it does impact you in some type of way. So I know Ty's disappointed by that, but the fact of the matter is just not the same team. It's a good team. It's a playoff team, but I don't know that it's a Super bowl team right now the way that it could have been if all these guys were healthy.
- [50:53]
Pat McAfee
Agreed. It's part of the game that everybody has to deal with. There's 100% chance of injuries happening to your team. You just got to hope that it's not pillar players or game records, which certainly has happened here to the Green Bay packers amongst others. You mentioned the Lions right there. They just got bullied by the Los Angeles Rams. Rams lose their touchdown maker while running a go route in Devonte Adams. Sniper gets a hamstring. Obviously 34 years old. The thought is he'll be back. Is that kind of what we're all hoping hoping for at this point?
- [51:22]
Adam Schefter
Well, he'll be back. But when is he back? And. And just a guess, right? It's a hamstring injury. He's battled hamstrings this year. They're playing for the one seed. I. I mean, he's not going to play Thursday nighting in Seattle. That would be shocking to me. So then the question is how much time he Mrs. Sean McVale updated later today. He acknowledged yesterday didn't look good. My guess, and just a guess is we'll see him in the playoffs. That's just a guess. Like this team can get by by the rest of the regular season and give him the time he needs then and then when it matters, really matters for this team. You have devonte Adams back then. That's my guess.
- [51:57]
Pat McAfee
All right, so those are the big injuries around the NFL. We'll continue to follow your X account to get more updates throughout the day as test results come back. You know, it's the end of something special, you know, 10 year decade, which is a decade obviously of dominance. Is this a dynasty delayed or deleted? There's obviously going to be some change going forward for the Chiefs. Go ahead, Khan, man.
- [52:18]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, Chef D with the Chiefs and with what, you know, Travis Kelce has said over the past couple weeks and just the vibes in general, especially when you think about their cap situation next year for the Kansas City. Is it safe to say that at least Travis Kelce might be done after this year and that he is considering retiring or are you not there yet with Kelsey?
- [52:38]
AJ Hawk
No, no.
- [52:38]
Adam Schefter
I, I, I think people have kind of felt that all along and, and we'll see what he ultimately decides at the end of the year. But I think his contract contracts up with Kansas City this year. I think he's got like an 18 or $19 million cap number. They'd have to redo a deal. He's always talked about wanting to keep playing, but there are so many opportunities out there for him. He's at a new phase in his life. Obviously. I'm going to guess he makes more money as a podcaster than a tight end. Like, the guy is incredibly successful. So I think his future is very much up in the air. I think it's distinctly possible that one of the greatest NFL connections of all time, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce, may have played their last down together. Like we may not see that combination of people again, which is hard to imagine, but certainly that's a real possibility here.
- [53:26]
Pat McAfee
Generational combination.
- [53:28]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, those two.
- [53:29]
Pat McAfee
And certainly something that we could never see again. But we'll always remember the great times. I mean, I mean, they were, God, they were so good. I can't wait. And for Travis, whatever the hell you end up doing, brother, we love it, we support it. To Patrick Mahomes. Godspeed on the recovery now there Was something that happened yesterday that they're going to make a Disney movie from. Go ahead, Debo.
- [53:49]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, speaking of things we thought we'd never see again, Philip Rivers is out there spinning. It gave us a chance to compete. No Anthony Richards coming off ir. We still got the young guy in it. What's the plan? What are the Colts plans going forward? Is Philip Rivers going to be the guy going forward down to make this stretch, maybe a playoff push?
- [54:06]
Adam Schefter
I think he will. And came very close to winning in Seattle in a game that a lot of people thought not only should he not be playing, but that they'd have no chance of winning and if they had run off more clock, they might have won the game. Like they distinguished themselves very well in Seattle yesterday and Philip was definitely not the issue. He stepped in right then and there. Like, I mean it's hard to imagine. We're important to see if Micah Parsons is done, Patrick Mahomes is done and Philip Rivers is starting in Indianapolis like it's bizarro world. But that's the world we're living in right now where their playoff push is up to him. And he played, he played well yesterday. I mean that was not the issue. He knew exactly what to do. You know, speaking to the Colts over the weekend, like how are you going to get by in Seattle in that noise 12 man, that defense. And they knew exactly what they were doing and they trusted Philip to know exactly what he was doing. And he went out there and executed the offense pretty well.
- [55:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think pretty well will be good. Now he only went for like 120. He's under hit or over your pass yards, which I certainly don't love. Last question here for you about tonight. Go ahead, Tone.
- [55:11]
Tone
Yeah, shefty, obviously a big one in Pittsburgh tonight. Can you fill us on, in on some injuries? I know Achan was banged up last week for the Dolphins. Jalen Warren had a sickness potentially today. Derek Harmon and then obviously TJ Watt. Did you have anything on his future?
- [55:27]
Adam Schefter
You know, the Watt thing you're talking about a partially punctured lung, collapsed lung. He's a crazy guy and he'll be back soon. You could ask J.J. on the show. He, he likes to, he likes to give the TJ Watt updates. But I would think that to me, look, he's out tonight. I'd be surprised if he played again next week. Typically these things would be multi week injuries. But again he's also built differently so we'll see if he can make it back sooner. Jalen Warren, they added to the injury report today. Questionable teams like to do that out of precaution. I still think that they believe he'll wind up playing. Hopefully he'll be out there tonight. DK Metcalf was on the injury report. He'll be back out there tonight. Who else do we have HN&M a chance playing, they say. The Dolphins say he's full go. Was limited some in practice, but they felt like he could have come back to the game last week and he's ready to rock and roll tonight.
- [56:23]
Pat McAfee
We appreciate the hell out of you, Shefty. We watch you all day. We'll follow you all day. Had a tough one the other week, but we appreciate the hell out of you this week. You're the man.
- [56:32]
Adam Schefter
Thanks, guys. I appreciate you have a great week.
- [56:34]
Pat McAfee
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Ty Schmidt
No, not a very first hour.
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Pat McAfee
I mean, that's. That was. That was very fast. I that was Sh Othani, you know, coming through. Paul Skein, Top five.
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Darius J. Butler
We got through the top five.
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Pat McAfee
Had to. Scotty Scheffler, Breaking news. We actually held that up three minutes. The PGA was waiting to send a press release as we were wrapping up the NFC West. Being the NFL's best, but how could you not talk about the Seahawks, the Rams and the ners?
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- [58:35]
Pat McAfee
Football is the best. I mean, we just take it in for a second. Yeah, it's the absolute best. So much to talk about. So many lives changed, so many legendary tales about to be told as we get through meaningful football time into playoff football season, which don't look now. College football playoffs start at the end of this particular week. Oh man. Holy hell. Bama. Oklahoma on Friday, Texas A and Miami on Saturday. We'll be on the sideline for that particular game on ESPN2. Cannot wait to be a part of that magic. And then Tulane, Ole Miss, JMU, OR and don't look now. Oregon and Ole Miss. Okay, everybody's been talking about these Group of 5 champions. Champions not deserving to be in the 12 team playoff. Not deserving to take a spot that maybe Notre Dame could have had. Everybody's fighting about Notre Dame, Alabama or Miami. And what we should be talking about is Tulane and JMU are in the big boy dance. Well, Tulane, jmu, you can change the trajectory of college ball, get a massive win, put up some good fight and maybe the future won't be changed. But if Ole Miss dog walks two lane in Oregon smacks James Madison, I don't know if these group of five champions are going to be even looked at going forward. I think there's going to be clauses added and amendments made to what the playoffs look like in the future. So there's a lot on the line for college football this weekend. And obviously the NFL wraps up its Week 15 slate tonight, Monday Night Football in the city of Pittsburgh as the Miami Dolphins in TUA travel north in the cold to take on Aaron Rodgers Rogers and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Pittsburgh Steelers can obviously still win the AFC north and make it to the playoffs. The Baltimore Ravens just absolutely demolished the Cincinnati Bengals yesterday. So there will be a representative from the AFC north in the playoffs. Will it be the Steelers? Will it be the Ravens? Or will the Miami Dolphins, who are still lurking in the background to steal a wild card spot in the afc, do something special tonight in the cold, something that they haven't been able to do with TUA as the quarterback. The Pittsburgh Steelers have an incredible record in certain situations. Yeah, they have a terrible record in other situations like when they don't have T.J. watt. T.J. watt will not be playing football tonight. Tua has a good record in some situations and a terrible record in other situations like when it's freezing cold. Something's got to give tonight. What will it be? Pittsburgh Steelers. Oh mama, I'm in fear for my life from the long. Will Yinzers be booing that as they spend another night downtown watching a shitty football team, or will they be losing their minds as the Pittsburgh Steelers pick up a huge win in what could be a magical season with a run to the playoffs? The talks at tables here at Boston. Connor Sorry, buddy.
- [61:40]
Connor Rogers
Hey, sorry to you too, man.
- [61:41]
Pat McAfee
21 zip. You guys were up. We're up to 10 points at least against Seattle Seahawks. Yeah. Now granted, I think a little different situation between our teams, but on that note, I don't think it's that bad of a loss. I think New England Patriots lose to a very good Josh Allen and Buffalo Bills that could potentially traject them into a way where they change a perspective on what this season could be. And Vrabel is going to utilize the hell out of that as a coaching point. And then at Ty Schmidt. I'm sorry, buddy. What happened, man?
- [62:07]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, the packers are also up by nine points. Not 10, but they're up nine. And then Micah blowing his knee out was kind of just the cherry on top of a pretty shitty Sunday.
- [62:16]
Pat McAfee
I'm sorry, man.
- [62:18]
Ty Schmidt
You know, it just, it happens. That's life in the NFL, unfortunately.
- [62:22]
Pat McAfee
Denver Broncos are for real.
- [62:24]
Ty Schmidt
They are good. Bonet Bricks played his best game as an NFL player on Sunday and maybe.
- [62:29]
Pat McAfee
This will be a sign of things to come for the Denver Broncos offense. Obviously, Halfley's defense we've been very impressed with. The Denver Broncos defense we've been incredibly impressed with. They show up in a big way in the second half and Toyota Thon became Ram Truck week for Jordan Love in the second half. And I don't want to point things out, okay, because I don't like to do this, give myself an old pat on the back as maybe others would do. But on Friday, as we were talking about this particular game, my brother in the middle of the conversation interjected a highlight, well, a low light, I guess, of Jordan Love running backwards and throwing it up. And this is the Denver Broncos defense. Obviously they're going to get one. They get two actually in the second half. They do their thing with that defense. With Bo Nix potentially playing his best ball right now. Denver Broncos are for real. Let's go to 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys AP Tone, how did the Gobblers do this week? How do we do against the sportsbooks who are obviously, obviously so incredibly greedy and winning all the time?
- [63:21]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [63:21]
Tone
As you Remember, we started off 01 on Thursday night thanks to the Bucks in that situation and then went 55 yesterday. So for the weekend we were 5 and 6 on teams that were getting 60% or more of the bats. Another losing weekend for the fans.
- [63:37]
Pat McAfee
Golly. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. Are we ever going to beat these pieces of trash?
- [63:42]
Darius J. Butler
I don't want to be negative and I'm kind of out on AI, so I think, yeah, we get them, we'll get them, we'll figure them out.
- [63:47]
Pat McAfee
Something you're out on AI.
- [63:49]
Darius J. Butler
Kind of out right now. I'm getting a lot of bad answers they give you.
- [63:52]
Ty Schmidt
Well, that's your fault.
- [63:53]
Tone
Prompts.
- [63:54]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. Okay. I got to work on better prompt. Yeah, I'm kind of out on.
- [63:57]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So I haven't done the full dive in for AI every single day. We'll send questions to Mr. GPT or Mrs. GPT or they GPT. I don't know. Honestly have no idea how Chat GPT identifies Ask.
- [64:10]
Darius J. Butler
Well, it's actually more multiple. You could choose choose one. You could choose man, you could choose snarky. You can choose something. You can choose different ones.
- [64:17]
Pat McAfee
The plural one is tough for me whenever it's an individual character just because of how English language works and everything like that. But Chat GPT, I've sent a question in there every once in a while. I also asked them to make me a 3D design of a room. Here's the specs. I'll answer all the questions. I'm still waiting for it. I think I got a lazy ass. Oh, no. I think the one in my phone, which I paid the upgrade, have the top one because I wanted a 3D fucking print like I see on what's that one where they're down in Mongolia Farms. Magnolia Farms.
- [64:47]
Connor Rogers
Chuck and Joanna.
- [64:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Chuck and Joanna Gaines. Where they have full 3D. That's what I asked ChatGPT. I said, I want a chip. And Joanna Gaines 3D surround image of what this room could look like. Had me answer 20 minutes worth of questions. He said, I'll get that for you. I was thinking two weeks ago, wow, it's like fanatics still just waiting on this thing to show up. So I have the lost hope in it as well. But I never really bought in. You were chatgpt braining there for a while. Yeah, I mean it was every thought.
- [65:13]
Ty Schmidt
You were having no course on AI. I did. You got certified.
- [65:16]
Darius J. Butler
Thank you, IBM. It was a pretty good course. That's partly, partly. Probably why I'm out on it. I think it's just we're still very early on in the adaptation, but. And sometimes you gotta ask some questions and they'd be like, hey, can you double check that? Can you triple check? But they'll do it and come back.
- [65:31]
Jason Myers
And give you some.
- [65:32]
Darius J. Butler
So I don't like. Yeah, I can just do it. It myself.
- [65:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What are we. What are we asking you to double check?
- [65:36]
Darius J. Butler
Exactly.
- [65:37]
Pat McAfee
That's what we came to you.
- [65:37]
Darius J. Butler
Exactly.
- [65:38]
Pat McAfee
We are doing a double check by it.
- [65:41]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
- [65:41]
Pat McAfee
We're asking you.
- [65:42]
Darius J. Butler
They'll just spit it out.
- [65:43]
Pat McAfee
Boom. And let's not even talk about Grock. Whenever Grock just finds his time to. You know what? Yeah, actually, I'm gonna do it. What was Chat GPT saying about Saturday night's main event?
- [65:56]
Darius J. Butler
I didn't. I didn't get into that.
- [65:57]
Pat McAfee
My. Did Bone get into it? Cuz if Bone was in. I'll tell you what. Bone is not happy.
- [66:04]
Tone
No, he's not.
- [66:05]
Pat McAfee
John Cena was at peace.
- [66:07]
Tone
Yeah, he was.
- [66:08]
Pat McAfee
Smile on his face as he tapped out of the greatest wrestling career of all time. I went down the same way and I texted Jon immediately afterwards. I should have given him a heads up that this is what Gunther is going to try to do. This happened to me from Gunther, obviously. I should have told Jon, hey, he's looking to do the. That's what he's trying to do. And whenever he wraps those big Austrian legs around. Around you like a boa constrictor, it's going to be tough to get out. Tyrese Halliburton brokenhearted. Obviously everybody in D.C. there, I mean, it's just shocked. Yeah. Gunther took him out. Gunther's in the middle of his prime. Gunther didn't care about the whole celebration. Gunther gets a tap out victory over John Cena and Kyrie Salton.
- [66:48]
Darius J. Butler
Have you checked on him?
- [66:49]
Pat McAfee
I have. I texted him a couple times because he was sitting right behind Michael Cole, front row. Real mark, he said. True mark. He gave a couple hashtags to himself in the group text, which I appreciate. Appreciate. But he was there and that's not what he expected. Now a lot of people would say, maybe Cena wins that one. Well, maybe he should have then. Okay, Maybe he should have won, right?
- [67:06]
Ty Schmidt
Didn't have the tank.
- [67:07]
Pat McAfee
Maybe he should have won out there and won. But the. George seemed a little.
- [67:12]
Darius J. Butler
He was ready.
- [67:12]
Pat McAfee
Ours when he Knew it's a good meme.
- [67:14]
Darius J. Butler
He's ready.
- [67:15]
Pat McAfee
So time to go. When I send you this, just know I know it's over and I know it's time to go bang, bang, bang. I should have gave him a heads up, though, when he was here, and I feel like that was a missed opportunity. Opportunity. That was my text to Mr. Cena immediately after watching the finale. I'm sorry, I should have told you that. That's. That's what he's going to be trying to do. And I assume Cena watch film. He's always going to be prepared. But him losing certainly made people not happy. Now, the international wrestling marks, I believe are like, this is what wrestling is supposed to be. But I think a lot of Cena fans are like, is it. Does it always have to be like that?
- [67:48]
Ty Schmidt
It's not.
- [67:49]
Pat McAfee
Is that what it has to be all the time time? Or can it potentially, you know, be something that's magical? I do appreciate him taking off his shoes. I do appreciate taking off the headband that he's worn around his bicep for the last 20 years because his. His Pythons brother is so big. His wristbands were different than ones he wore in here. They were actually switched and he said that we were going to have the actual ones. Feels like we were lied to just a little bit by Mr. Hustle. Loyalty, respect. So maybe this is. This might be a collector. That's a one of one collector's item now, which we're very appreciative of. Hell of a run, though, John. We appreciate. I assume this did big numbers. I assume it did gigantic number. I'm being serious. It felt like everybody was talking about.
- [68:33]
Ty Schmidt
And I think that's what, you know, Foxy and I were talking about this a little bit before the show. That's why I was kind of pissed off, because like you said, hey, listen, you got to respect the business and all that kind of stuff. But you had this match in particular. Particular, there were a bunch of people who don't give two shits about wrestling that were watching this. And it would have been cool just to. Just to see Cena beat the piss out of Gunther and go out on top.
- [68:57]
Pat McAfee
I do wonder if Cena had a plan for after the match, what he was going to do. And then whenever that gets, you know, changed immediately as the entire roster comes out to say thank you and honor him. And then CM Punk and Cody Rhodes, two guys that Cena obviously gets along with very well and was a massive part of their entire story, say hey, these are our titles, but they're really yours because you're the ones. You're the one that created them and made them to be as important as they are. Cena didn't want to do that. It was very obvious that Cena didn't want to wear titles that he did not win over his shoulders, because even though whenever he was heel, he wanted to ruin the business and everything like that, he loves the business and he tried multiple times. Hey, this is your title. It is not my title. And they're like, no, you're the one that made them the title, so please do the thing. And he goes, all right, I was going to do something, but I guess, once again, I have to do what you guys want me to do. Here we go. Thank you. Thank you. No, you gotta go to the other one. Please, please. You really want me to do this? Yeah, do it, please. How about you? And then Cena's like, you know what, professional wrestler? I think that could be a little bit louder than his side. I don't. I think he had a plan potentially on how it was gonna go after the match. Obviously, that changes when everybody wants to come out and pay their respects, including Mr. H, who got a very warm ovation from the entire crowd. And then now, tonight, 8 o' clock on Netflix, they have the opportunity to do some real special stuff with the outcome and the fallout of everything that happened on Saturday. We'd like to say to Mr. Hussle, loyalty, respect, we appreciate you coming through the Thunderdome. We appreciate your service to sport and to beat the hell out of your body for the good and for the entertainment of everybody else. You're the man, John. Even though you didn't win, you're still a winner in our eyes. And Elias was there. It was good to see him. All the stars came out. Joining us now live from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, is a college football national champion, super bowl champion, Ryder cup winner, AJ Hawke. Hawker, how you doing, buddy?
- [70:46]
AJ Hawk
Man, it's tough to see Jon go out like that, but, you know, obviously, very, very humble.
- [70:50]
Pat McAfee
Champ.
- [70:50]
AJ Hawk
I don't think there ever will be anyone like him again.
- [70:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And John Cena said multiple times on Friday, this is it, so make sure you get close, because for me, I'm leaving it all out there and it's over. And I know you can only judge off of what previous wrestlers have done whenever they said they're retired, and maybe it'll change going forward with me, but this is. This is it. This is the final time right here. He's taking it all in one last time. Let me go ahead and just Polaroid this from my own brain so I can remember what it was like. As I walk out of my final match ever, he says, I bid you adieu. Shout out to St. And then walks his ass out of there. For the final time in the WWE, he will now be an ambassador for the WWE. Not 100% sure what that means, but. No, don't thank us. We thank you, brother. You're the best. Cena and I think he could have won that match. I don't think necessarily had to lose, but John Cena?
- [71:46]
Darius J. Butler
What do you mean?
- [71:46]
AJ Hawk
Well, Gunther's a saw that showed he can't breathe.
- [71:50]
Pat McAfee
Well, I think he could have won if he could have won, you know, and maybe one more five knuckle shuffle through the bats. No, I'm just saying there at the end when he was smiling and just said, you know what? I'm done. I think he could have potentially fought.
- [72:05]
Tone
To get to the rope.
- [72:08]
Pat McAfee
One final time. But, yeah, I think he felt what I felt. And that's. When that Austrian man is wrapped around you, you feel like it's a bo. I almost got. What's that called? Claustrophobe. Yep. I was almost claustrophobe with his body just kind of engulfing me. And I think that's probably what Cena felt as well. So he said, you know what? That's it. As he legs aren't even locked. Says, that's a fun year. That's a fun run. I'm gonna get out of here. Congrats to Jon. We love you, Jon. Good luck, Jon. What's John gonna do now? Oh, take over the movies.
- [72:38]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [72:39]
Pat McAfee
He's. I mean, not that he would because he has the thespian ability to do whatever, but. How many action stars are there currently right now?
- [72:48]
Ty Schmidt
Not many, probably. Probably count them all in, like, one hand.
- [72:51]
Pat McAfee
Like, if he really wanted to just go and take over the action world, he could. He's seen as.
- [72:56]
AJ Hawk
He's got range. He's got range for real.
- [72:58]
Pat McAfee
Ricky Stanicki, Ferdinand. Anything else? Amy. What he did with Amy Schumer.
- [73:04]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Train wreck. Yeah, Train wreck. Blockers. He was. It was another big comedy one that he was in, and he'll do whatever.
- [73:10]
Connor Rogers
Peace.
- [73:11]
Ty Schmidt
Will do whatever.
- [73:13]
Pat McAfee
He's in. He is in for whatever, which is kind of this entire final run, somebody pitches him an idea. I'm in. I'm in because I want to be easy to work with. And people are like, well, if he was pitched different Ideas? Would he have been in? Yes. Well, this is Cena's. Cena's okay with it. It's like. Well, he's only okay because this is what he's hearing. You know, if there was other ideas that he was hearing, do we think he'd be okay with that, too? Yeah. But Cena. Hey, he's good. He's good. We appreciate it. Heisman winner Fernando Mendoza. Indiana University has a Heisman winner for the first time ever. AJ Loved his speech, loved the way he handled it. Didn't love the presentation. But I do appreciate the fact that the Heisman still means something. You know, the Heisman will forever mean something, AJ and that's a special night for not only Fernando and his family, which was beautiful to see, but for iu, for Indiana, for college ball as a whole. Congrats to him. And they're saying he's 6, 4, 6 5. So whenever you talk about number one overall pick, shit, this is guarantee in my eyes. But now, also certified Heisman winner, A.J. hawk.
- [74:11]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. I mean, good for him, obviously, if you. He's going to be a great, like, ambassador for the Heisman Trophy, like, his whole life.
- [74:17]
Connor Rogers
The rest of.
- [74:17]
AJ Hawk
We're going to see him on the Heisman house doing goofy, funny things with the rest of the guys. We know. That'll be fun. But, I mean, I'm not shocked that his. His speech was great. Everything about him is class, like, seems so. So mature. Yeah. If I had. If I was a team, I wouldn't mind this guy leading my squad as a starting quarterback.
- [74:33]
Pat McAfee
He's an ugly crier. I mean, he's. He's got a terrible cry. I mean, his whole face is bad. It's. It's a bad cry face. But I do appreciate the fact that he did cry and he did get emotional. And also he very much acknowledged how much it means to him. His family, sig, the school, everything. It was special. It felt special. While I was watching it, incredibly happy for him.
- [74:53]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, Like, a lot of people leading up to it are a lot of me, me, me, me, me. And him being like, hey, Heisman, I want this thing living at iu. That in itself, I think is really cool because, I mean, we had Matt Leinert on at one point in his Heisman was in his laundry room. Like, some people who kind of reached the pinnacle and hopefully they do continue to go on and win the national championship. But him already being like, hey, I know this has my name on it, but I want this to live in Bloomington forever, I think is so cool.
- [75:20]
Pat McAfee
Boy, the Heisman show could about change tenfold.
- [75:25]
Ty Schmidt
Maybe it needs a facelift.
- [75:26]
Pat McAfee
And the college football awards could as well. You know, I guess we just do something and we'll do it for that way forever, because that's what everybody does. But it's like that's a special night. That was a hard watch. I watched the whole thing. I wanted especially my wife was fully invested.
- [75:40]
AJ Hawk
String out a little bit. They definitely string it out a little bit.
- [75:42]
Pat McAfee
Well, and the way they string it out is just. I mean, are we grandstanding the whole time? I mean, can we do some sort of. Some sort of something? Yeah.
- [75:48]
Connor Rogers
What year did Fowler run the Heisman?
- [75:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, him standing up there amongst the Heisman award winners was certainly something. And then him making a statement of fact to Fernando and then acting as if Fernando was supposed to know that it was a question after Fernando just won the Heisman. Heisman. And then say, it's your moment, kid. Okay. You didn't win a Heisman, Fowler. This is his Heisman. So let's have a little humility up there through it all. But yeah, I mean it's still a special thing. And then you see all the players, the ex Heisman winners. It's like that is a special fraternity who has done so much for college ball.
- [76:18]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. I mean it's, it's awesome. And it'd be nice if it could have a massive facelift because that used to be, you know, like growing up that, that was must watch.
- [76:27]
Pat McAfee
Watch.
- [76:28]
Ty Schmidt
And part of that was because they didn't release odds. So you, you genuinely didn't know who was going to win the Heisman going into it. But you're right. I mean it's, it's almost getting to the point where it's a little too self serving. It's like, hey, is this about the Heisman trust? Is this about all that BS or is it about the, the four kids who got nominated and ultimately the kid who wins the Heisman?
- [76:47]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I mean if we can make it a celebration, that would be sick. And then the college football award show being on a zoom call. That's. That's cool. That's really cool. I guess, I guess none of these awards are worthy of celebrating. I don't think I fully scheduled.
- [77:01]
AJ Hawk
Too tough to make it work now or what? Because the teams are playing when like how's it work?
- [77:04]
Pat McAfee
Well, I think if it's an ass event, anybody's going to make the excuse that the schedule.
- [77:09]
AJ Hawk
Right.
- [77:09]
Pat McAfee
You know what I mean? If some, I've never heard somebody say oh, the schedules too flooded for something. It's epic. You know, I don't think I've ever heard that anybody.
- [77:17]
AJ Hawk
The Met gala, the Met gal is not going zoom.
- [77:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, exact. Exactly.
- [77:20]
Ty Schmidt
Are they cheap skates? Does that have something to do with it?
- [77:23]
Pat McAfee
Maybe. I think it's just laziness. Full on, for sure. I think it's just full on laziness to not want it to be special. And as somebody that got a chance to go to the college football award show back in the day down in Orlando, like, I think it was cool to have everybody around each other. And I think everybody was kind of pumped to be around each other. You only get to see each other multiple different times. And it is a celebration. Like, what do you. We. We talk about these things as if they matter, and then we don't treat them as if they matter whenever it happens.
- [77:50]
Darius J. Butler
Why aren't they all together?
- [77:52]
Pat McAfee
I don't know, dude.
- [77:53]
Tone
Like, all the awards Covid gave people excuses to be lazy.
- [77:56]
Pat McAfee
Bingo. That's exactly what it is. You can just mail it in.
- [77:59]
AJ Hawk
And there's different types of awards that people who. Different, like, groups run different awards.
- [78:02]
Pat McAfee
Right.
- [78:02]
AJ Hawk
Isn't that why they're all split up?
- [78:03]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but if you were to tell them, like, hey, it would be what's good for the goose, good for the gander here, you know, like, we can make this all a much bigger thing. Would be cool. Cool. But to do that, you would have to have drive, initiative, and some creativity and have to pitch that. So I don't know if that exists. I don't know if that's something that exists.
- [78:19]
Connor Rogers
Well, that's what's crazy, because most of these people, especially in this world, grandstand like, there's no tomorrow. So if you were to have all of them in the same night, you are kind of giving a much brighter light or shining a much brighter light on all of the awards versus the Heisman. Like, could you imagine if the NFL awards did every award in some separate little thing and then had the MVP awards be an hour long showcase about four people? Like, no, that wouldn't make any sense because they have brains. And then think about what the NFL award honors are. It's like the wrap on the super bowl week as a whole. Like, it really doesn't kind of do any justice to the players of college football as a whole, let alone, you know, the four people up there. Because Jeremiah Love, I'm assuming he won the running back of the year award. I don't even know. But I'm assuming the Only thing we.
- [79:03]
Pat McAfee
Saw was him losing. Him lose.
- [79:04]
Connor Rogers
Exactly. So it's like. It really makes no sense. Sense. It's stupid. But again, it is very cool seeing all those former Heisman winners. Like, it's sweet to see DEZ up there because you just see DEZ on game day, but then when you see him on that stage, it's like. Oh, yeah.
- [79:19]
Pat McAfee
Like, certified.
- [79:20]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. You forget how certified that guy.
- [79:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Desmond Howard, Heisman Award winner and Super Bowl MVP. I mean, he. 20 years on TV, multiple time Emmy Award winner, and he caught Michael Jackson's hat at a performance in Ann Arbor in college.
- [79:32]
Tone
What?
- [79:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [79:33]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
- [79:33]
Pat McAfee
That's literally in the middle of his living room. He's got the super bowl mvp, he's got a Heisman, he's got all these other. What kind of hat? The.
- [79:39]
Connor Rogers
The hat.
- [79:40]
Pat McAfee
The hat. The fedora hat.
- [79:41]
AJ Hawk
Oh, geez. Okay.
- [79:42]
Pat McAfee
Michael Jackson threw it, one of his things at a concert at Ann Arbor. Threw it like this. Desmond. Yeah.
- [79:48]
Ty Schmidt
Naturally.
- [79:49]
Darius J. Butler
Nobody. Nobody.
- [79:51]
Pat McAfee
Everybody stacks it, keeps that thing, puts that thing under there. It's in his living room, literally in the front. The greatest catch I've ever made is what.
- [79:59]
Tone
It's funny.
- [79:59]
Pat McAfee
It's like Michael Jackson's hat or whatever it is. Desmond is certified. And everybody up on that stage is in. Fernando Mendoza now is. And it's like, we should at least. What do we know? You know? What do we know? Well, we know. We watched it, and we know people that aren't, like, Die Hard people watched it because I was literally in a room with somebody, and they're like, this is the Heisman. This is what? This. Yeah, it's. Yeah. Take a trip back to 1920. And this is what it is. Who's the guy reading the award for Mendoza? He matters, certainly. Is he reading directly off a teleprompter? Yeah. Well, actually, they'll show it.
- [80:38]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, you can see it.
- [80:39]
Pat McAfee
They'll actually show it for you. It's like, come on, Bernie. And then Diego. I don't think I've seen anybody have bigger heel turn in one weekend than Diego Pavia. Not that it was starting to happen already, kind of because of anybody who's flashy and talks a lot of shit is going to be hated by a group of people, regardless. But then this weekend, with how it all went, I think a lot of people kind of turned on Diego Pavia. And I saw a lot of people saying, let's make sure we keep this energy that we had for Shador Sanders going in the draft that we have for Diego Pavia. I Don't think anybody's really talking about Diego Pavia being in the NFL, period. Like, I don't think that's really a conversation that's happening at this time. But I do know Diego Pavia is going to be a usxfl. Yeah. Maybe hall of Famer, owner, Maybe.
- [81:24]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [81:25]
AJ Hawk
When's the draft?
- [81:27]
Pat McAfee
Do they have.
- [81:28]
Ty Schmidt
I think they.
- [81:29]
AJ Hawk
Do we know the proper name of the league though, do we?
- [81:32]
Pat McAfee
Usxfl.
- [81:34]
AJ Hawk
I'm not sure I've seen that out there. Is that really what it is?
- [81:36]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, it is.
- [81:36]
Ty Schmidt
You missed.
- [81:37]
Tone
There's an exclamation point at the end.
- [81:38]
Pat McAfee
Oh, usxfl. Okay, okay, now.
- [81:42]
AJ Hawk
Now makes sense.
- [81:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Okay. So to that or Canada. You know, Diego could have a massive can, but I feel like with his size now, granted he's a hell of a ball player, so maybe they move him out to like slot wide receiver or something like that. I don't know if he's going to be quarterback. You don't know.
- [81:58]
Darius J. Butler
Dylan Gabriel just got drafted in third round. We didn't expect that.
- [82:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we kind of. I think we expected Dylan G. The NFL.
- [82:06]
Darius J. Butler
Okay. I'll speak for myself. I didn't expect Dylan Gabriel would be a third round pick.
- [82:10]
Pat McAfee
Oh, you Third round or just NFL in general?
- [82:12]
Darius J. Butler
I expect him to get drafted but not third.
- [82:14]
Pat McAfee
Got it. Because he's too short.
- [82:16]
Darius J. Butler
That's a big part of it. Not a strong arm.
- [82:18]
Pat McAfee
That's the big thing is like the size. Like that is the separator for the NFL and everywhere else. That is the worry about Diego and my ass. I think he's a dog. He's robbed people the wrong way. But I think that's because he has a dog.
- [82:29]
Connor Rogers
Flip Vandy.
- [82:30]
Pat McAfee
Who he is Flip Vandy. So did Mendoza. I think people would say nobody's really talking about what happened with Indiana now. Or Curtis Rourke last year did it for Indiana. Diego did it last year for Vanderbilt. But a lot of people saying like Diego made Vandy a football program very real. I think Clark Lee will be very appreciative as were the people for Randy. But Fernando did that for Indiana as well, which didn't have a football team very similar to what Vandy was. But I don't know if Diego to the NFL is really a conversation that a lot of people are having. I think that's why he's trying to get another year of college ball. And yeah, it is interesting the way way everybody has kind of turned on Diego.
- [83:08]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. And I guess we'll see if he gets invited to the combine because That'll kind of be the, like. If he wants, you know, a big part of his. His game is running. If he goes out there and runs a 4, 7, 8 at the combine, it's kind of like, well, you can't play wide receiver and you're not big enough to play quarterback. So we'll see.
- [83:23]
Pat McAfee
We have an update from Micah Parsons. He has tweeted about his injury, giving a response. I may be signlined, but I am not done. This injury is my greatest test, a moment God allowed to strengthen my testimony. I believe he walks with me through this storm and chose me for this fight because he knew my heart could carry it. I'm deeply grateful to the packers organization and my teammates for their unwavering support, love, and belief in me during this season. I trust his timing, his plan and his purpose. I will rise again. How do you feel about this? That time?
- [83:59]
Ty Schmidt
I mean. Yeah, that's all I needed to hear. We're going to come back with a. A better Mike Parsons than we've ever seen. I think the big thing that I've kind of tried to compartmentalize with this, too, is it's not an achilles. Like, an ACL isn't a, like, death wish. Like it was 10, 15 years ago, where if a guy tore his ACL, it's like, oh, he's going to be out 12 to 18 months. Like, I don't think that he's going to come back and be, like, slower and have lost a step and all that kind of. Of stuff. So while it sucks that it was this late in the season and there's a chance he might miss the first half of next season or something like that, like, it could be a lot worse.
- [84:33]
Pat McAfee
AJ A lot of injuries. Micah, obviously, and there's others with the Green Bay Packers. Devonte Adams, Patrick Mahomes. Your thoughts on teams losing key players at this stage of the season?
- [84:43]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, it's brutal seeing it happen, especially the biggest guys. But as far as Micah goes, I think Ty makes a good point. Yeah, it's not as Achilles. And think what September is, what, nine months away or something? Like, why can't he come back at the beginning of next season? It's one of those things where an ACL is not a. It used to be like a career ender and this guy's going to come back a step slow. Now you can come back and, you know, with all the rehab you do, you almost could possibly feel a bit stronger once you get your knee. Once you get confident in your knee, I guess. But, yeah, Patrick Mahomes. I I guess if there's ever a good timing to Terry acl, is that good timing the fact that they're out of the playoffs? He can get surgery, rest and rehab. I don't know if you're trying to look at the positive parts of it.
- [85:16]
Pat McAfee
Has never played a snap where the Chiefs didn't have a chance to make the playoffs or b season over and now that trend will continue. This year was a different year for Patrick Mahomes. A lot more mobile, a lot more physical contact, a lot of physicality in Patrick Mahomes. I don't think anybody believed that this was going to be the year the Chiefs won the super bowl outside of the fact that they had Patrick Mahomes. He has obviously said he'll come back stronger and better than ever and then let's go. Yeah. Here's his quote right here about being back stronger than ever with the clock. We appreciate that mindset. Obviously. Godspeed to Patrick Mahomes Battles and then Devontae Adams. Hamstring injury classic sniper situation. Gets his a little bit of a pool on a go route. Your thoughts on Devonte and what the Rams are over the next couple weeks as he tries to recover this. I know he's a guy who's an incredible athlete, obviously a wild work ethic. He's committed himself fully to Ball. 34 years old. Should we be worried about this, you think down the stretch, A.J.
- [86:13]
AJ Hawk
I don't think down the stretch. I think what she said. He should look for him. He's just, I'm just guessing but you know, he should be be fine for the playoffs, I would imagine. I mean obviously there's all different levels to hamstrings. He's walking this one off. Yeah. When I think further playoff push, they should feel okay. But obviously it sucks anytime you get hurt. You don't want this to be a like a lingering thing. So when he does come back, you want to make sure you do whatever it is to where it's not going to pop up again another another time down the road in the playoffs.
- [86:37]
Pat McAfee
He's 32 years old, not 34 years old. I apologize. I had that wrong the entire first hour as well. 100% on me. Let's talk about some of the outcomes from yesterday's games. That NFC west is unbelievable right now, A.J. i mean, obviously the Rams are the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl. Puka's outrageous. Matthew Stafford's unbelievable. Their offensive line has two running backs who can get the job done in Karen Williams And Blake Corum and they will punch you in the mouth. They are not scared to just punch you right in the mouth, but obviously have all the pieces to be explosive. And then on the defensive side side, they're able to get the job done with anybody. Your thoughts on the Rams or will it be the Niners? Obviously the San Francisco 49ers. They lose Fred Warner in Bosa, which is obviously a scary situation for them. Defensively. Salah's still got the boys cooking. Brock Purdy does his thing. They're seemingly flying better than they have in a long time. On the offensive side, they played the Titans, so it's hard to judge, but you get the point. And then the Seahawks, the Seattle Seahawks, the team obviously not the prettiest win against the Indianapolis Colts, but they continue to win. They win on the road, they have a strong defense. Sam Darnold can get it done. Feels like the super bowl representative for the NFC is now coming out of the NFC west. Even though Bears people don't want to hear that.
- [87:53]
Ty Schmidt
No.
- [87:53]
Jason Myers
Yeah.
- [87:54]
Pat McAfee
I don't think packers people necessarily want to hear that even with all the injury. But this NFC west feels like the real deal. A.J. hawk.
- [88:02]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I'm with you on that. As far as those talk three teams, I feel most confident that the Rams would be the representative coming from the nfc. I just think with how Matt Stafford is playing the defense and all the weapons they have, if they get devonte back for the playoffs, obviously with what he can do in the red zone and stretch the field, it's just there's not many people like him on the planet. So they get him back. Obviously. Puka just what he catches like eight to 10 balls, almost 200 yards every single game. It feels like. I know. Did he get. It was scary looking situation early. Was it cramps or whatever he's keeping came off the field. Luckily it was good to see him back. Like what Deebot, what. What separates Puka? Why is he so good? Honestly, how is he always making these plays?
- [88:38]
Darius J. Butler
I mean number one, you. You don't know where he's going to be and you know how difficult that is throughout the week. You know, preparing for somebody if you know they're going to be on the X or they're going to be in a Z or they're going to be always in the slot. That makes it easier to prepare for him. Prepare coverages, adjust coverages around a guy. But for a guy that can move around in the backfield, could be in the slot, could be on the out outside, can Run all of the routes. And then his catch point, like when it become. When it comes to that moment of truth, like nine times out of 10, it feels like 12 is going to come down with it. He had a drop, I think, early in his game and it was real. It was like, wow. It was like that. We never see that happen. His rookie career, his rookie year, even though he had a career year for rookies, he had a bunch of drops, but he kind of fixed that. But, yeah, he's a dog. He does everything well. And then after the catch, like once the ball is in his hands, the play starts all over again. It's like how like Brandon Marshall used to be back in our day, like once he got the ball in his hands, now he's going to take two or three guys to get him down to the ground. So he's just unbelievable in all those different aspects.
- [89:31]
Pat McAfee
Speed.
- [89:32]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [89:32]
Pat McAfee
Hey, we don't really talk about Puka speed. It's obviously a lot about his toughness. This guy runs great routes. He's seemingly everywhere and knows everything. His hands, he catches everything. I mean, these catches are absurd, but he ran like an out and go or something. Like, it just blew by.
- [89:46]
AJ Hawk
He doesn't look like a burner. That's the thing. He doesn't exactly look like a burner or look super quick, but he is. So that's why it's like. It's weird. Like, the dude is an absolute stud.
- [89:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So fast, so tough, so chirpy, so jovial. I mean, it's like everything you want out of a guy. And Sean McVay just so happens to be the perfect head coach and offense coordinator to have a wide receiver like him.
- [90:08]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, he's fantastic. And we talk about how, like, running backs, I mean, Gibbs, Pacheco, they run angry. Like, Puka also runs angry. He might be the angriest running wide receiver in the NFL. Like, when he gets the ball, ball, he's patting the pavement. And I mean, it's already been said, but has he ever dropped a ball? Has a ball ever hit his hands and he's not reeled it in? It feels like every time Stafford goes to him, it's a catch, it's a first down, it's a massive play.
- [90:32]
Pat McAfee
NFC west is a problem. Here's the highest scoring margin this season from Hembo. NFC west plus 287.
- [90:39]
Ty Schmidt
Jesus.
- [90:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [90:40]
Connor Rogers
What?
- [90:41]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Not even close. Yeah. NFC north, obviously. Good. Plus 159. Abe's AFC South. Hey, problems down here, especially if Trevor Lawrence is going to do what he just did. What's that all about?
- [90:53]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [90:53]
Pat McAfee
Five through the sky, one on the ground. Liam Cohen doing his thing, defense making plays. AFC East + 57, the NFC West, 26 and 12 in non division games, which is obviously unbelievable. Feels like the super bowl champion might be coming from the NFC West. Yesterday we all saw one dude beat a fairy tale story right into the ground. One guy leads the NFL in the most field goals this season. One man is just eight field goals away from having the most field goals made in a single season in the history of the NFL. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the guy who said old man Rivers go back to the retirement home kicker for the Seattle Seahawks, Jason Marshall. What's that all about?
- [91:45]
Jason Myers
I mean, I will say after, after the game I felt a little bad because I did grow up watching Philip play. I was a Chargers fan growing up. So after the fact, felt a little bad.
- [91:54]
Pat McAfee
Okay. In the fact though, you didn't think to yourself, all right, 50 something yarder yet again. Blake Groupie, who I had no idea somebody that small could hit the ball as far as he hits. He is outrageous. You didn't think to your yourself. You know, Phil Rivers deserves this one. You know our Seattle Seahawks team, pretty good. I've already made five field goals. I go five for six. That's pretty good odds. That's pretty good percentage. Everybody would think I had a good day. 56 yarder in Seattle with the game on the line. Maybe I missed this one for Phil Rivers. Didn't cross your mind one time, Jason Myers?
- [92:24]
Jason Myers
No, I mean I obviously Blake's kick was amazing. That was a great ball. Then Sam and the boys got us down in field goal range. So yeah, they didn't cross my mind until after I got home and the family had to remind me that I did grow up watching Philip play for the Chargers. So.
- [92:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I respect that. I appreciate that. Can you tell me about the team a little bit? Obviously you're a weapon. If it comes down to a kick, we know you're going to make it. You've been doing this a long time. Eight field goals away from the most field goals made in one season. Good luck finishing the season this year. Hopefully you're able to accomplish that. And this is one that goes down in the record books because it's been a special season for, for you, but also the Seahawks team. Can you tell me about Sam Darnold becoming your quarterback? McDonald's culture kind of taking over. What do you feel from the Seahawks team at this point that maybe you felt in the Offseason going into the year. That said, maybe we could be special this year.
- [93:12]
Jason Myers
I think it started last year, really. You know, this, this locker room, everyone talks about it all year, that it's, it's a tight locker room and the brotherhood we have in here is amazing. Like, you walk through the locker room, everybody's interacting, you don't really get that everywhere. And I think that's what brings us together. And like on Sundays when things aren't going right, sometimes everyone has each other's back and it's just, that's just kind of how we've built. I think it started last year when Mike came in and you know, Sam, I played with Sam in New York. Sam's a great guy. He's a great leader for us. So, yeah, it's really just the tight knit group that we have here is amazing.
- [93:50]
Pat McAfee
The closeness is on display. When you guys are on the road. You have some away record that's just like historic because home field advantage is supposed to be something obviously in Seattle it is. You guys have walked into other people's trap, took over their trap, and it potentially is because of your tightness that's kind of the X factor you can't really see on film. Go ahead, A.J.
- [94:09]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [94:10]
AJ Hawk
You mentioned Sam Darnold there at quarterback. You play with him in New York. What's it been like to watch his progression through the league and everything from high pick to everything that he's got? Are you surprised at all to see the success that he's having?
- [94:21]
Jason Myers
Not at all. I mean, I know Sam off the field. You know, we golf this off season and you know, Sam's just a great guy. He's. He's true to who he is. You know, he's always going to be a fighter. He's obviously shown that through his career. And you know, people have his back no matter what's going on. So we'll always put the ball in Sam's hand and he's going to lead us to great places.
- [94:42]
Pat McAfee
You're in your 11th, 10th year right now, you old ass man, kicking like you're some young buck still. It's unbelievable to have the weapon like that. But in that stadium, you know, it felt like it was special yesterday. Go ahead, Debo.
- [94:54]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, speaking of old ass, man, we, we play up here when we play in the league. Like that was a special environment, special, very hostile atmosphere. And it was some reports a couple years ago about some other fan bases kind of potentially taking over. Lumen Fields, Lumen Phil, all the way back. It's the atmosphere back where it used to be, those 12s.
- [95:13]
Jason Myers
Oh, for sure. You know, Pat, you mentioned it on the road. I think the 12's traveling is also a huge part for us. We go, you know, we go some places and, you know, you see the. The home team going on the silent count, and that's just because our 12s show up everywhere. And then obviously at home, I think people just wanted to come to Seattle, honestly, to see what. What Lumen's about. So I think that's what brought a lot of away fans in. But, yeah, our fans are back. You know, they're. They're loud. It's. It's a. It's a great place to play.
- [95:39]
Pat McAfee
I thought about traveling out there yesterday, you know, just so far away. I thought about it me and I was going to bring 30,000 Colts fans take screaming field and, you know, we're going to. Maybe you get discombobulated on one of your six field goals yesterday. This guy never misses. Go ahead, Tone.
- [95:58]
Tone
Yeah, Jason, we saw, obviously saw it yesterday with you guys after groupie makes the kick. Like in seasons past, it feels like there wouldn't be enough time left on the clock, but now with the new kickoff rules, it feels like even if a kick is made with 15 seconds left, there's still enough time for other teams to get back into field goal range to trump that. Is that how you are on the sideline thinking, or is like, is there ever a chance that any team is out now with the new kickoff rules?
- [96:25]
Jason Myers
Yeah, I mean, there's. I mean, there's so many, many different factors that play into that, whether, like the time or, you know, what, what yardage you want to give up if you want to hit touchback. You know, Sheed made a great return on that one. Got us into, you know, a good starting position and then got a couple. I don't even know how many plays it was. Five. Five plays or something. And we got the yardage, so, yeah, that definitely plays in. Into the factor. And then, you know, we still had, what, 18 seconds left after our field goal and, you know, we. We kicked it short, let our boys cover, and, you know, I think it was one play later Kobe made the pick.
- [96:56]
Pat McAfee
So, yeah, you're not hitting squib, right? You just hit it down. What is your. What are you aiming for in between the five and the goal line? Like, what is perfect kick for you?
- [97:05]
Jason Myers
I mean, I think it depends really. Like some. Some returners play you shorter, you want to hit a little deeper, and they start backing up. Then you want to try and get on the ground in front of them. It's kind of, you know, you're trying to play a game of the returners, they're switching sides. It's all kinds of different little intricate parts that are going on to the kickoff. And you know, in the end you just want to get the ball to a spot and let our cover guys do their job.
- [97:24]
Pat McAfee
Will you be working on it in the off season more, you think?
- [97:28]
Jason Myers
I started working last offseason when they changed the rule. Worked on it a little bit more this year. I mean, as I get older, it definitely saved your leg. You're not, you're not, you know, you're not trying to hit the, the four two hangs deep 80 yard kickoffs now. It's, you're just trying to place the ball that the new hang time is real, really just off of getting the ball on the ground and letting your guys get that early start before the ball's being returned.
- [97:50]
Pat McAfee
I didn't love and maybe I was overthinking it. I'm removed from the game now. You know, I've been nominated for the hall of Fame three times. It means I've, you know, I've been out of the game a long time, haven't kicked a ball in forever, and that does not mean I should go into hall of Fame. That was laughable that I got nominated, but I'm just talking about the amount of years I've been away from it all and haven't kicked. I was a little bit worried about these kickers, especially young kickers that were trying to hit the ball fat to get one of this, and it was like messing up their field goal swing. I thought personally there was a chance that that was taking place for you. Is there a mindset on what you should do with the ball, what you can't do with the ball? Are you comfortable doing everything with it? Does that make sense? I don't know if question makes sense for you or not.
- [98:26]
Jason Myers
Yeah, for sure. When this kind of started, I kind of had that mindset also, but I kind of try in my mind differentiate my field goal swing from my kickoff swing. I take kind of different steps and it kind of takes me back to like my soccer days of like, let's, let's just place the ball into a spot instead of trying to like, technically think about the swing. So, yeah, I think that I understand what you're saying, and I definitely thought about that early on when they switched this. So, yeah, for sure.
- [98:51]
Pat McAfee
Well, it's seemingly working for you, but you're about to break the all time record for field goals made in a season. But let's talk about the change that happened over there. We heard there were some walls that were painted and such. Go ahead, con man.
- [99:03]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, Jason. Very new era it feels like with Coach McDonald. What is he like on the day to day? He kind of gives off the, you know, super smart, nice guy, but it'll also rip your face off on a football field vibe. Is that what he is? Is he kind of like a football savant? Like, how would you explain Mike McDonald?
- [99:20]
Jason Myers
Mike's awesome. Like he's a players coach. But when it's time to work hard, we work hard here. We have fun. When, you know, we're in the locker room and we're about to like around the facility, you know, one of our big things is loose and focused and he, he, he start. It starts with him and then it carries through the locker room. And yeah, I mean he's smart. Smart as hell. Really. I mean, you've seen what he's done with the defense and you know, he's, he gets, he gets kind of fiery on game day and you know, the guys will have his back no matter what.
- [99:51]
Pat McAfee
Loose and focused. Love everything about that. That's a tough man balance. You know, for some places, that's kind.
- [99:57]
Darius J. Butler
Of how peak was Carol.
- [99:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that was kind of loose and focus.
- [100:01]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, from, I mean, from people, you know, talking to people that used to play there and like obviously at that time, Patriots are in their dynasty and everything was very tight and militant. But in Seattle, at least back then, you know, had the hoop in the lot in the meeting room and all these different. So, yeah, very loose. But when they came onto the field, obviously they were a force to be reckoned with.
- [100:17]
Pat McAfee
How are you with that hoop? How were you with that hoop?
- [100:20]
Jason Myers
I could shoot. I can shoot.
- [100:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah. Pretty good shooter.
- [100:22]
Jason Myers
You know, specialists are athletes too, Pat.
- [100:24]
Pat McAfee
Ping pong.
- [100:26]
Jason Myers
Oh, yeah.
- [100:27]
Pat McAfee
Anything. We don't got to move. If we can get these guys in things where they can't expose us athletically, we're in a good spot. Play horse. Let's play horse. Let's do that. Ping pong. Not as much movement is there. Games cornhole and such in locker room or you guys know, games building.
- [100:44]
Jason Myers
We had the shuffleboard, Shuffleboard in there. That's a, that's a big one. The shadow boxing has taken over for sure.
- [100:52]
Pat McAfee
What do you mean?
- [100:54]
Jason Myers
I don't quite understand it, but it's. Yeah, yeah, it's looking and pointing and all kinds of stuff.
- [101:00]
Pat McAfee
What is the winner? Have you ever won one? What? I don't. I. This, my. My generation missed this. I don't know what the hell they're doing anytime that they do it. And I've heard from people that are in that world that say, I don't fully know what a win or a loss is. Have you dove into. Into the whole thing yet and what's your record?
- [101:17]
Jason Myers
I'm not great, but we have a lot of great players on our team.
- [101:21]
Pat McAfee
What are you supposed to do? Do you. What is the. Do you know what the goal of the game is?
- [101:26]
Jason Myers
You're supposed to look the opposite way of that. They're pointing and they're.
- [101:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you get your ass kicked.
- [101:34]
Jason Myers
Yeah, I'm with you, Pat. I'm with you.
- [101:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you walk right into it. Yeah, I got it. I got it. Go ahead, Ty.
- [101:39]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Jason and I haven't spent too much time in Seattle, but it seems like the only thing people really talk about is the rain. And like on Sunday, I was expecting there to be a bunch of snow and have the weather be really shitty, but it didn't really look that bad. What is it like kicking in the elements, I guess, in Seattle? And how much does that prepare you for what you might see in the playoffs? I mean, there's a good chance that either you guys or the Rams will be the number one seed, so you won't have to deal with it. But what, what is it like kicking in the elements and seeing Seattle?
- [102:09]
Jason Myers
Yeah, I mean, it could be tough sometimes, you know, the ball doesn't fly as well here. It's a little. That heavy, wet air. Yeah, I mean, we get rain. It's kind of like that heavy drizzle most of the time. But yeah, we. I mean, it can be a tough place to kick, but it's also, you know, when you, when you have the fans that we have, it's just like it's football weather for sure.
- [102:33]
Pat McAfee
Did you expect Groupie to be able to hit a 60 yard? I did not.
- [102:38]
Jason Myers
I mean, he's come out to San Diego a few times the last couple offseason, so I know he can hit that for sure.
- [102:42]
Pat McAfee
Dude, it's unbelievable. I, I've. I have always had the belief that you got to have a cannon like you. Very smooth swing of the ball is traveling so far. Groupie has a cannon. But I don't know where it's coming from. I, I legitimately have no idea where it's coming from. It's insane. Let's speed for him at his size, and we're lucky to have him. And the Seahawks, obviously, incredibly lucky to have you. Good luck the rest of the way. And please tell the boys we say, congrats. You ruined a fairy tale. Thanks.
- [103:09]
Jason Myers
Appreciate it, guys.
- [103:10]
Pat McAfee
You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Jason Myers ruined a fairy tale.
- [103:15]
AJ Hawk
It did feel like he was gonna miss. Like, hey, you can't ruin this for Phil, right? This is like a whole situation I.
- [103:20]
Pat McAfee
Was watching with my daughter, Mackenzie, and I'm like, this guy always makes kicks. Like, that's literally all he does. And I think I said. Said that in the past. And then the next game, he missed one, I think, because I was like, hey, Jason Myers, this guy from Seattle, anytime he shows up on your screen, he's making a kick. That's all this guy does. He very rarely. And then next week, I think he pushed one, right? So I was almost like a kind of a jinx. So right before he kicked that, I was like, mackenzie, all this guy does is make kicks. That's literally all he does is make kicks. And then that thing was just. There wasn't even a. There was no doubt on any of his kicks. I mean, it is. He's special. Dick's in there. Punter from Australia. He was one of the first ones from Australia that had massive amount of success, obviously, which led to a lot of others trying to get in the game. He's a special talent as well. I. I mean, they got sick tats. Seattle Seahawks, got it. Yeah. Well, he's Aussie, obviously, and thoughts are with Australia, obviously.
- [104:13]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [104:13]
Pat McAfee
Love the country. Those are crazy scenes. Crazy, crazy scenes. Anytime any of that stuff's happening, and obviously there's stuff on.
- [104:21]
Ty Schmidt
Going.
- [104:21]
Pat McAfee
Going on here as well over the weekend. It's like T's and peas to everybody going through anything. Go ahead.
- [104:26]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. Brown. Yeah. University of Rhode Island. Very scary, that entire thing. So. Yeah.
- [104:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I think the Bills were staying right down the road, so obviously crazy stuff happening. But we have to remember that the good outweigh the bad. No matter how hellacious something feels or seems in the moment, we have good people that will hopefully win in the end. I like to believe that. But T's and peas to positive thoughts and prayers to everybody going through it. I mean, that was some. That was crazy popping up on the Internet, which is why we're incredibly lucky that we stay in a sports world. In sports are unifiers. And tonight, AJ The Miami Dolphins take on the Pittsburgh Steelers. Did you see the Miami Dolphins travel up to Robert Morris, Bobby Moe, to get acclimated to the elements because it's impossible possible to replicate that in an indoor facility in Miami. What you could be facing tonight, aj.
- [105:18]
AJ Hawk
I did see this. I was actually happy to see this. I, I like the guys getting excited. It's like a spirited practice in this snow. I, I, I said to some guys when I connected before the show, I, I respect this. I enjoy this much more than the take your shirt off in warm ups and go run around and act like you're not cold in warm ups. So I think this actually might have some, some positive benefits for them.
- [105:38]
Pat McAfee
Bobby Mo is actually located in Moon.
- [105:40]
Tone
Township, home of AQ Shipley and, and Joe Denorta.
- [105:44]
Pat McAfee
Thank you.
- [105:44]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [105:45]
Connor Rogers
What the.
- [105:45]
Pat McAfee
I almost how that went.
- [105:48]
Ty Schmidt
What?
- [105:49]
Darius J. Butler
AQ's a hall of Famer.
- [105:50]
Pat McAfee
He ain't as well, buddy.
- [105:54]
Tone
I saw this week, aq, in his first season, was ranked as the number two radio crew in all of the NFL.
- [105:59]
Pat McAfee
Who, who's he ranked by? Is it a place that matters?
- [106:03]
Tone
No.
- [106:03]
Pat McAfee
Oh, okay. But on that note, better to be 2 than 32. Way to go, AQ.
- [106:08]
Tone
Actually, actually, I believe it was the worst first place to do the ranking.
- [106:11]
Pat McAfee
Exactly. But, hey, congrats, aq.
- [106:13]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, yeah.
- [106:15]
Pat McAfee
Follow Joe Nardo's lead. He's good on microphone.
- [106:17]
Tone
Yeah, Bingo.
- [106:18]
Pat McAfee
Okay. But Bobby Moe over there in Moon Township hosted the Miami Dolphins.
- [106:24]
Tone
It's always sounds like a traitorous move.
- [106:28]
Connor Rogers
So rolling over in his Robert Morris would do that.
- [106:31]
Tone
Duquesne would never.
- [106:32]
Darius J. Butler
Okay, so anything for the field and clear the field out for him at all.
- [106:35]
Pat McAfee
Well, I think they asked for that to not be clean. Yeah, they definitely wrote it a little bit. And, and as they were walking in, I didn't know it was that Robert Morris. I think I found out, like, maybe the next time I watched the video, I was like, man, what high school are they at? That might be like Pine Richland or something. They're in high school field. And then I immediately thought to myself, what high school is going to be like? Yeah, the Miami Dolphins can actually get working on our field in Pittsburgh in the middle of a playoff push. I don't know. I think that would be a little bit of a difficult decision for some yinzer to make. Yeah. So as I'm watching the video, I'm like, I like this out of the Dolphins. But then I'm immediately thinking about background, like, somebody's about to get murdered by Pittsburgh here. Who were the ones that were like.
- [107:11]
AJ Hawk
See, who turned them down? When you asked the Dolphins, hey, who turned you down? How many places did you have to call until you got this legit?
- [107:17]
Pat McAfee
That's a real. I think that's a real question. Especially in like Pittsburgh, especially at this time, especially with how Yinzers feel about this particular season. This is another primetime game. This is another night game. Okay. Getting Don to the stadium with how hilly imontony Pittsburgh is, is a thing. You're coming in one tunnel or the other. It's either Squirrel Hill or Fort Pitt. And to get into these tunnels, obviously a lot of lanes come into a little bit of lanes and everybody's coming at the same time. It's one big cum party and everybody's trying to get downtown Pittsburgh and it is a nightmare, let alone whenever you get through the tunnels, then the chaos to get into the right lanes to get in. So these Yinzers that are signing up to go to these prime tunnels games, it takes them an hour and a half to get down there. Then obviously we got a tailgate for an hour and a half. This is everything else. So that's three hours game three and a half, four hours. That's seven hours. And then trip home, getting out of town. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. It's night now. The traffic is outrageous. This is a 10 hour commitment. Okay? And then we got work tomorrow morning. So we are committing a lot to go to a primetime Steelers game. So when they're booing or if they're booing right against tonight, it's not just what's happening on the field, it's their own personal decision to commit this much of their life to this Pittsburgh Steeler team that we've been watching all damn year play like this. So we need Sticks to know it's not about them. If it happens tonight. We need the Steelers that are on the field to know it's not just about you. It's about everything else that's been going on. But that's what the Dolphins are looking to do tonight. They're looking to take Ackershire completely out of it. They're looking to make sure Pittsburgh does not have any faith going into the fourth quarter. And without TJ Watts, stats tell us there's a chance that the Dolphins can do that. Tone.
- [109:01]
Tone
Yeah. So there's a lot of good things going for the Steelers tonight. As I said earlier, the Fins have lost 13 straight games. If it's under 40 degrees at kickoff, it's going to be 17 degree at kickoff tonight. Pittsburgh has won 22 straight home Monday night football games, so that's pretty good. The gold end zones are back because Pitt's done playing football so that's awesome. It's also a color rush tonight for the Steelers which they always win in those jerseys. The one issue is they are not with TJ Watt and they are 1 and 11 without TJ Watt so that could be a problem tonight.
- [109:28]
Ty Schmidt
Rog all the snow too.
- [109:30]
Tone
Oh Rog in the snow Rod in.
- [109:31]
Ty Schmidt
The cold in the snow.
- [109:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he is. I completely forgot about that.
- [109:38]
AJ Hawk
This a Yep.
- [109:39]
Pat McAfee
And Joey Porter and Ben Rothburg.
- [109:42]
Tone
Yes, yes. They're going in the hall of Honor. Those three are going in so that'll be cool to tonight but this is a different Dolphins team. They started playing Minka closer line of scrimmages really helps them. Russell Douglas has been playing really well. They run the out of the ball with Achan so no it'll be an interest. Like I said Derek Harmon if you see him scratch tonight he's questionable right now. He's the rookie out of Oregon that he took in the first round. They give up 95 D tackle. He is a not he gives they have 95 yards at game rushing when he's in the when he starts it, when he plays when he's in the game and they give up 195 when he's not. So something to look at.
- [110:13]
Pat McAfee
Go to the other half of the Hammer Cowboys grinning like the Butcher's dog back there. Gumpy, it feels like you feel good going into tonight. Did the Robert Morris snowball play around help the feelings tonight or what exactly is it?
- [110:28]
Tone
You could probably run this back every time we've got to this point in the season the past three or four years when it's cold game and I've said I've believed and this is the time we're going to change everything. It's going to be better but this time it does actually feel different.
- [110:42]
Pat McAfee
We're running the ball.
- [110:43]
Tone
Our offensive line is actually good and he's not going to say it. I think this game means a lot to Minka man and Anthony Weaver the DC said it. He said he won't say it but I know how much it means to him. I think that is a major factor because he's been playing lights out all year for us.
- [110:58]
Pat McAfee
All right, let's move to some other games that we haven't shown enough attention to from the weekend Bears big bury the Bronze in a freezing cold. Congrats to the Bears feel like they're mentally and physically tough and the Browns Miles Garrett gets a couple sacks. Obviously he's celebrating that but other than that not much to really pull for from the bronze.
- [111:17]
Ty Schmidt
No, the Browns absolutely stink, unfortunately. But yeah, for the Bears, this was, I mean, negative 20 wind chill for Caleb to play the way he did. Like he looked unbelievable yesterday. And yeah, the Bears, I mean you can say what you want, their odds are what they are. But like this is. They're a very good football team.
- [111:32]
Pat McAfee
Cairo hit a 41 yarder and negative 15. That's a huge kick that I took that away just as a person, obviously. That's incredible play. Incredible catch, incredible throw. I don't know how the Browns didn't get that, especially after the replay kind of showed that back. But it feels like the Bears mental toughness. That is good, better, best. Never let it rest till your good is better and better is best. From Ben Johnson has settled in completely. What a game to show showcase that.
- [111:56]
Darius J. Butler
Absolutely huge bounce back win for them after a tough loss against the packers where they could have laid down in that game against the packers as well, but they fought all the way to the end. Had a great second half. Then for Caleb to have these type of highlight plays and these elements, unbelievable move to 10 and four now second in the NFC, which is crazy to even think about.
- [112:13]
Pat McAfee
The Jacksonville Jaguars, we've mentioned them a couple of times. Trevor Lawrence going crazy. They lead the AFC South D, but they look for real.
- [112:20]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, they're number three in the afc. You talked about, you touched on it a little bit with Trevor Lawrence had a historic day yesterday. He was 2032 for 330 yards in the air, five TDs, another 51 on the ground with another touchdown. He has been playing great, great football. I know this was against the jets, but this last four or five weeks he's been on unbelievable run. Another 104 football team that we wouldn't expect. First year head coach Trevor, even this year a lot of people were saying, hey, this guy stinks. Maybe time to move on for him. But unbelievable.
- [112:48]
Pat McAfee
I was offended that the Colts had the largest spread of the weekend when the Texans were playing the Cardinals. And I actually said the Cardinals have been routinely losing by 20. I have no idea why their spread is so much smaller than ours against the Seahawks. Well, looky, looky, they lose by 20 again to this Texans team. Now this isn't a shot at the Cardinals. It was just a compliment to who the Texans are. They're the real deal down there. Third best odds to win the Super Bowl.
- [113:16]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [113:16]
Darius J. Butler
In the Texas defense, we, we know how great they have been. But C.J. stroud, you know, he's has knocked that rust off since Coming back, another great game from him. Another great game from Nico Collins as well. He has now became the third Texans receiver to have 3,000 yard seasons back to back joining Andre Johnson, Deandre Hopkins.
- [113:33]
Pat McAfee
And shuck is not ass. And the Saints might be good in the future, con man.
- [113:38]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, they might be good if they can figure out how to take care of their money, their cap. Nobody wants to win the NFC South. Kind of cool. Panthers and Bucks just kind of passing it back and forth. But that's. That's because the shuck master, the shuck man. That's kind of how they won the game. He slid and there was a penalty. Unnecessary rough and then what.
- [113:53]
Ty Schmidt
But Charlie Smyth, Lutz, game winner. Charlie Smythe, game winner from Mayo Bridge County, Ireland.
- [114:00]
Pat McAfee
His name's Charlie Smith. He would have made that from 60 plus if he had to. It gets shortened for the late hit on the quarterback. The Saints aren't ass. Who will win the NFC South? Who knows? All right, we'll continue with overreactions and our official picks for Monday Night football digitally on YouTube, ESPN+Disney+ and Tik Tok Live. We hope you had an incredible day. We'll see you tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. Goodbye. I didn't. I get that many words in.
- [114:26]
Ty Schmidt
That was great.
- [114:26]
Tone
That last. That whole last.
- [114:27]
AJ Hawk
Got it.
- [114:28]
Pat McAfee
There's four different times I thought about quitting and saluting like I was John Cena. And then I just kept going. I saw the ticker going. Shout to the Aliyuk in the back there.
- [114:36]
Tone
Nick tapping out every.
- [114:37]
Connor Rogers
He give up.
- [114:38]
Pat McAfee
Well, just being content, I guess.
- [114:40]
AJ Hawk
It's coming back.
- [114:43]
Darius J. Butler
I think so too.
- [114:44]
AJ Hawk
Aj, he's already an ambassador. He's going to be back in some form. So the fact that he's already there, let's just. Yeah, throw. Let's just throw our body around a few times.
- [114:52]
Darius J. Butler
Don't lose that.
- [114:53]
Pat McAfee
Wwe.
- [114:53]
AJ Hawk
This is amazing.
- [114:54]
Pat McAfee
WWE global global business now, right? This business is now the most global it's ever been. Even though it's always been popular around the the world, now it's like real. So I think whenever he signs on to be an ambassador, I think there's a chance that when John Cena is filming in London or England, there's a chance maybe he's out there meeting with, you know, business arenas or mayors or whatever the case is for the wwe. The legends deal that the WWE has, that's for like appearances and different events. So Ambassador. I don't. I don't think I. Oh, it's Different. I don't know.
- [115:32]
AJ Hawk
It's different.
- [115:32]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I don't know what the WWE Ambassador thing is versus the WWE Legend stuff, because WWE Legends deal, you see podcasts coming out, appearances and stuff, which I think is a very good way for the WWE to take care of the Legends that have come before and also to have them benefit and thank them for what they've done. I think the Legends deal that started becoming a thing was a very good move. And also smoke smart move because what they were seeing their ex wrestlers become was not good for anybody. Definitely wasn't good for wrestling as a whole. So getting them back into the fold and giving them purpose and, you know, like a sense of be, I think that is a really good thing they've done. I don't know the Ambassador. I don't know what the Ambassador tag is, but John Cena would be the perfect Ambassador.
- [116:18]
Connor Rogers
Oh, yeah.
- [116:18]
Pat McAfee
You know, for basically anything. Which is why he has 10 different commercials, you know, because John Cena does good voiceover work. For real. Yeah. That Honda commercial is really well done. It's not too much. It's not ever dramatic, but there is acting in there. You know, he's good. He's a good actor. He is.
- [116:33]
Ty Schmidt
And why would he ever come back and wrestle? You know, it's like every time. Every time he comes back, he's just like getting his ass beaten, losing. Like, who's signing up to continually do that year over year.
- [116:42]
Pat McAfee
And that was kind of John Cena's entire thing is he would get his ass beat and then he'd come back and win. Which is why John Cena never give up, you know, is his. That's why he's beloved by a lot of people. And obviously he was the person who has the world record for the amount of make a wishes wishes that he has granted. It's like he was the guy who got knocked down, but just kept coming back, just in matches, let alone in life. And then also he was the one who went out of his way to do everything that was good. So I think he'll still be able to do everything that was good for the WWE without having to get knocked down.
- [117:16]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [117:17]
Pat McAfee
Every single match that he was in, because that's kind of the John Cena Cena story. And who John Cena is in the ring, he was the rope and doper.
- [117:24]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [117:24]
Pat McAfee
I mean, he would just get his ass beat. And then who could survive longer, me or you? Was always big match John. And that's why we appreciate it.
- [117:32]
Connor Rogers
And that's also why it's cool because, like, his whole things never give up. And now for the rest of time, I remember him as the guy who gave up in his final match.
- [117:39]
Ty Schmidt
Come on.
- [117:40]
Pat McAfee
Why are you saying that?
- [117:41]
Connor Rogers
Because that's what happened.
- [117:42]
Pat McAfee
He didn't give up. That was him passing the torch. Yeah, it looks like he gave up. No, because he wasn't odd. So he didn't give up. He just said, it's yours now with his left hand.
- [117:52]
Connor Rogers
It's yours now, but I give up.
- [117:53]
Pat McAfee
You take it, dude. You have it.
- [117:55]
Tone
I quit. Yeah, looks like he quit on the business.
- [117:58]
Pat McAfee
No, he retired. Okay. I guess you can supplement those words with each other, but one means I did everything I could. I appreciate it.
- [118:06]
Tone
I grew up my whole life, and he told me to never give up. And now he gave up. I don't really.
- [118:10]
Connor Rogers
Did you tap out against Gunther?
- [118:12]
Pat McAfee
No, he put me out.
- [118:13]
Connor Rogers
Okay, that's what I thought.
- [118:14]
Tone
So you didn't give up?
- [118:15]
Connor Rogers
So you never gave up? You just.
- [118:17]
Pat McAfee
My body certainly did. Yes, I. I would say my body gave up. My body gave up.
- [118:21]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, but your. But your mind didn't.
- [118:22]
Tone
You didn't make a.
- [118:23]
Connor Rogers
Both of his did.
- [118:26]
Pat McAfee
I think you guys are looking into this a little bit too much in the wrong way.
- [118:31]
Connor Rogers
I saw a lot of people on X, a lot of people who had deathly, deathly, deathly illnesses saying, like, oh, okay, I guess I'll give up then.
- [118:39]
Pat McAfee
No, that is not how this goes.
- [118:41]
Connor Rogers
That's what I saw.
- [118:43]
Pat McAfee
No, Dumpy, that is not. You guys are looking in a weird part of the Internet.
- [118:47]
Tone
Record number of Americans unfortunately gave up.
- [118:50]
Pat McAfee
No.
- [118:50]
Ty Schmidt
Passed away last night.
- [118:51]
Pat McAfee
No, you guys are. Why are you guys looking at such a weird part of the Internet? Have it be a positive party Internet where he goes, good. It's your WWE now is what he was saying. None of that. It was poetic. He smiled. I've done all that I could, and now it's my job to leave it better than it was. And it certainly is. It's your time now. Your time now. That's what he did. And he took those shoes off.
- [119:14]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [119:16]
Pat McAfee
Jey USO called him trash ass. I believe Jay USO was on a microphone. And I don't think a lot of people thought Jey USO was gonna be on a microphone, including Jey uso. And he did get a little emotional in there, as any person a little boozed up would in those moments, you know, as you kind of ride the ebbs and flows of it all. But he did take a shot at sneakers, which I think we all did. Because you know there's spotlighted there. Whenever they're taking off, you kind of. Those go see. What are those? Are those the airbirds?
- [119:44]
Connor Rogers
Noble monarchs.
- [119:47]
Darius J. Butler
AFLs. Formerly.
- [119:49]
AJ Hawk
What's that?
- [119:50]
Darius J. Butler
Lululemon.
- [119:51]
AJ Hawk
Oh, really?
- [119:52]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
- [119:53]
Darius J. Butler
Clue.
- [119:53]
Pat McAfee
I do appreciate the fact that he doesn't care. Like in the era of everybody knowing what good shoes are and what aren't good shoes and like the sneaker culture kind of being very relevant, especially in the wrestling world.
- [120:04]
Connor Rogers
Especially with freaking Halburn there.
- [120:06]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Hal Burton's got the hibiscus fours out, you know, like. And Halliburton being there. Yeah, exactly. Cena has never cared about the shoes.
- [120:13]
Ty Schmidt
No.
- [120:14]
Pat McAfee
Or the jorts. Just. What are they? Their jorts are good with me. And that's part of. That's part of the thing we love about them.
- [120:22]
Connor Rogers
Loved.
- [120:22]
Pat McAfee
I think could have won that.
- [120:24]
AJ Hawk
So that was a Photoshop I saw when he. That he. When he left the jorts in the ring.
- [120:27]
Connor Rogers
No, he went back in.
- [120:28]
Ty Schmidt
He.
- [120:29]
Connor Rogers
He actually came. Came back into the arena.
- [120:31]
AJ Hawk
That wasn't real after hours.
- [120:32]
Connor Rogers
No, it was. It was real.
- [120:33]
Pat McAfee
No, no, that was. That was. That was grock. That was grock. But there was somebody in a very serious moment in the history of wrestling, whenever he takes that off and he stands up and looks at it and he's about to leave. And the shorts. You heard some couple people start chanting. I guess that would have been.
- [120:52]
Tone
That would have been awesome. He doesn't wear anything underneath the Jordan.
- [120:56]
AJ Hawk
Nothing underneath.
- [120:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but it came through. He, he, he. Obviously you guys don't watch enough. Cena. He. Cuz he doesn't care about the underwear either. Cuz that ends up showing and it's some terrible offering and it's like Cena, you can have anything. You know, I. What do they give me? It's okay as long as they work. I'm good with it. And that's like kind of a part of it.
- [121:16]
Darius J. Butler
Can you get them to send the jorts? Because that mannequin kind of makes me uncomfortable.
- [121:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's kind of short shirt. What's it called?
- [121:23]
Connor Rogers
Shirt.
- [121:25]
Darius J. Butler
That's the name. I didn't know anything.
- [121:26]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, it's called the shirt. That's a classic shirt.
- [121:30]
Tone
Donald ducking it.
- [121:31]
Connor Rogers
We've never seen anyone do it with bone.
- [121:33]
Ty Schmidt
Bringing a pair of jords because I think he's got about 75 pairs of those cena jords.
- [121:37]
Pat McAfee
Think they'll fit that well? We tried to put. Well, that's kind of what Cena's jorts are. They're really big. We tried to put the chairs in front of it so it didn't look as bad as if, you know, it kind of covered them. But, yeah, it does appear Jorge might.
- [121:49]
Tone
Fit that back bear.
- [121:50]
Pat McAfee
Maybe. All right, let's get to a break on the other side.
- [121:55]
Ty Schmidt
He's already had. Not today with him.
- [121:58]
Tone
Yeah, he threw a childlike tantrum on Saturday night in a group chat that.
- [122:02]
Connor Rogers
I had to mute.
- [122:03]
Pat McAfee
It was so funny, though. He blocked wwe. Dude, he blocked him.
- [122:07]
Connor Rogers
What?
- [122:08]
Pat McAfee
Thanks for ruining the goats last one, wwe. Hope the business fails at blocksthewe. But he couldn't stay away from the chatter. Oh, he stayed on his phone all night and read every single mark's reply to him.
- [122:24]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [122:24]
Pat McAfee
Got people telling me I don't understand business. This is what y' all Cena wanted. Is it now?
- [122:31]
Darius J. Butler
What do you think? Bone to be watching tonight? Monday Night Football or.
- [122:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Netflix. Monday Night Raw, 8pm Eastern. What will the WWE do in the brand new new era? Post Hustle, loyalty and respect? We'll find out tonight.
- [122:48]
Tone
It's a new era.
- [122:52]
AJ Hawk
New era.
- [122:54]
Darius J. Butler
They were mean to him on Internet.
- [122:55]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [122:56]
Pat McAfee
And in real life.
- [122:57]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [122:57]
Pat McAfee
That's part of the biz, bro.
- [122:59]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
- [123:00]
Pat McAfee
That's part of the biz.
- [123:01]
Darius J. Butler
Guess so.
- [123:02]
Pat McAfee
Listen, when you sit in a chair, you have to make actual decisions. There's going to be times where people don't appreciate you, which is why there's people that are sitting in positions of power that don't make any decisions because they're scared of the repercussions. Triple H said it. I'll be the one. He's got to do all this good healing, and he had a good run there for a while. Booker of the century.
- [123:22]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [123:23]
Pat McAfee
This guy's the promoter. Booker of the century. Yeah. And then all of a sudden, we got to make some real decisions and we got to pivot. We got to do some stuff. And people turn. I assume Triple H still has a little bit of Matt Magic in that beard. It's got a little bit of heat in that pen. New era starts tonight.
- [123:39]
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
- [123:39]
Darius J. Butler
Can't wait.
- [123:40]
Pat McAfee
Do you see all the NXT talent? Soul Ruka, Outrageously talented. Oba.
- [123:46]
Ty Schmidt
He's awesome.
- [123:47]
Darius J. Butler
I do love him.
- [123:47]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. Where's he from?
- [123:49]
Pat McAfee
You? You can tell just by looking at. Oh, dog.
- [123:53]
Connor Rogers
Okay.
- [123:53]
AJ Hawk
What if Cena comes back tonight? He's like, you guys are idiots. You believe me? You really believe I was leaving?
- [123:57]
Pat McAfee
Could happen.
- [123:58]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, you never know.
- [123:59]
AJ Hawk
And he gets beat again, though. He taps out again.
- [124:02]
Pat McAfee
Now it's over. That's the business, by the way? The business is that he could show up tonight.
- [124:08]
Tone
Yeah, that's why we'll be there.
- [124:12]
AJ Hawk
Where is it?
- [124:13]
Pat McAfee
Netflix, I assume it's in DC area normally after those things. Baltimore maybe. I don't know, somewhere.
- [124:20]
Darius J. Butler
Wait, where is over from? Massachusetts?
- [124:23]
Ty Schmidt
No. Oh, no, no, no.
- [124:25]
Pat McAfee
Where's he from?
- [124:25]
Ty Schmidt
It's like Nigeria or something, right?
- [124:27]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. I saw him. That's sick. It's hard not to start to walk with him. Whenever he's walking jacked, then he's standing up on his toes while he's in the middle of the ring. I'm like, that guy's balance is outrageous.
- [124:44]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah.
- [124:45]
Pat McAfee
They're in Hershey, Pennsylvania tonight.
- [124:47]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, they are.
- [124:47]
Pat McAfee
We've been there. Oh, we have that place. That place is very committed to ball marks.
- [124:53]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [124:54]
Pat McAfee
Yes, it's a mark hub. They are committed to ball. There's an Applebee's right down the road. Great Apple.
- [125:00]
Jason Myers
Yeah.
- [125:00]
Ty Schmidt
Pretty solid.
- [125:01]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, exactly. Chilies everywhere. You will find marks. Hershey, PA Baby.
- [125:10]
Pat McAfee
All right, we'll be back on the other side. Make our picture tonight.
- [125:12]
Connor Rogers
Chuck E. Cheese. Excuse me?
- [125:16]
Pat McAfee
Hershey park, the number two amusement park in Pennsylvania.
- [125:21]
Jason Myers
Yeah.
- [125:21]
Tone
It's not even close.
- [125:22]
Pat McAfee
Obviously behind.
- [125:23]
Darius J. Butler
Obviously.
- [125:25]
AJ Hawk
Is there a Six Flags or something I don't know about?
- [125:30]
Tone
Those are getting out of. Going out of business because they suck.
- [125:33]
Pat McAfee
Have you heard?
- [125:33]
Tone
Really?
- [125:34]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [125:34]
Pat McAfee
Travis Kelsey's trying to save him.
- [125:36]
Connor Rogers
Oh, yeah.
- [125:37]
Pat McAfee
Well, as long as Kennywood exists, it's going to be tough to be another amusement park. Is who I was referring to. Referring to AJ Hawk.
- [125:43]
Connor Rogers
And not everybody can offer free food and park brother.
- [125:46]
Tone
That's not true.
- [125:51]
Pat McAfee
Holiday sale right now for Kenny Wood. This is not an ad. But you can save up to 60%. My God.
- [125:59]
Darius J. Butler
Whoa.
- [125:59]
Connor Rogers
Free food and park brother right now.
- [126:01]
Pat McAfee
Save up to 60 on tickets and passes. Experience the joy of holiday lights for as low as 19.99. I will say it is good to see holiday lights still happening at Kennywood because Fright Night got canceled because yinzers were just fighting each other in all the different locations.
- [126:18]
Tone
Tis the season, so we don't. We know not to fight during.
- [126:20]
Pat McAfee
Hey, don't be fighting at holiday lights at Kennywood.
- [126:24]
Darius J. Butler
That's a bad.
- [126:25]
Pat McAfee
Everybody knows that Fright Night got canceled.
- [126:27]
Darius J. Butler
Yep.
- [126:28]
Pat McAfee
Because there was too many brawls. All right, Kennywood's got to cancel Fright Night because these can't keep the their fists to themselves. It was all over the place.
- [126:37]
Tone
Same thing happened in Station Scare. Just tales.
- [126:39]
Pat McAfee
Oldest time. Station Scare used to be awesome. Well, why is it that? No. Well, because everybody got all the inserts, got drunk, went down there and just fought each other. It's full chaos everywhere.
- [126:48]
AJ Hawk
Was it a haunted house? What was it?
- [126:49]
Pat McAfee
It was bars. Bunch of them. Oh, bunch of bars. It was like a whole nother area. Obviously got the south side, which won a Guinness world record, I think, for having the most bars per whatever space. It was like 100 some bars. Hilarious that that exists. It did for a long time and thrived for a long time. But 2:33am Obviously on that street in Pittsburgh was, you know, that was a heads on a swivel situation at all times. And I'm not saying you always got out of there safe or. We got out of their safe. Diggs got knocked out twice by the same guy.
- [127:20]
AJ Hawk
Same guy.
- [127:21]
Connor Rogers
No, dude, crap.
- [127:22]
Tone
I would not lose in one night.
- [127:24]
Pat McAfee
In one night.
- [127:25]
Tone
This, I mean, it was guy I filled the story story on here. He was Buff Bagwell.
- [127:28]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. And wasn't it a Brennan Hoffdale do back situation where you guys both knocked each other out? One.
- [127:34]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [127:35]
Connor Rogers
No, no.
- [127:35]
Tone
There was three of us.
- [127:38]
AJ Hawk
And one guy.
- [127:39]
Darius J. Butler
One.
- [127:39]
Tone
Yeah.
- [127:40]
AJ Hawk
Who is this guy?
- [127:40]
Tone
We took him on Chuck Norstar, which was a bad idea. One at a time.
- [127:44]
AJ Hawk
Why would you do that?
- [127:46]
Tone
Because we were drunk.
- [127:47]
AJ Hawk
Wait, the second time you did was the second time you got knocked out?
- [127:50]
Pat McAfee
This is yinzers while drunk. Dude. That. That's the title. Yinzers while drunk. Kennywood cancels 21 plus nights due to fights. Yeah, okay. Yeah. This is yinzers while drunk. This is kind of the whole story. But that guy actually in his mind when he's telling the story, it was four guys. Tone tells the story. It was just three of them because it was Tone twice. So that guy knocked out Tone first, then the two friends and Tone got back up and then he knocked him out again. That guy gets in car immediately goes just knocked out four fucking.
- [128:19]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [128:19]
Tone
But we wanted the end because the bouncer at Diesel saw it and said that was awesome and let us in for free.
- [128:25]
Scotty Scheffler
Hell of a night.
- [128:27]
Pat McAfee
Which goes back to tonight.
- [128:30]
Darius J. Butler
Oh my God.
- [128:31]
Pat McAfee
How about. I mean, haven't even really talked about it. Big night out. There was one fight.
- [128:36]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [128:36]
Tone
Yeah.
- [128:37]
AJ Hawk
That's very impressive.
- [128:38]
Pat McAfee
There was an article that was like, Pat McV's big night out has massive brawl or whatever. It was like going into that, we thought to ourselves, if there's under three fights here, success story. Only one fight happening was like a big. I was very. I was like, is anybody super injured? Nope. Yeah, there it is. Big nut out brawl in the stands with stars on the stage. It was like Pittsburgh boos together. Long time money being given out next door. Like we knew there was a chance. That was a roll of the dice in Pittsburgh. But that leads us to tonight like Pittsburgh is. We're done with it city and that could be on display tonight. For real.
- [129:18]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. I was going to say that was the biggest one. The Eagles fan winning a million bucks wearing Eagles jersey. I thought they were going to beat that guy to death.
- [129:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we had to get him. Yeah that was a decision that was made. Hey let's get them back as possible into the back so we can meet them. But yeah that's hey tough time. Always will be. I know always will be.
- [129:39]
Darius J. Butler
See how tough they are tonight.
- [129:41]
AJ Hawk
Well that's man, they won't handle it well though if the warm weather Miami Dolphins come in and beat up on them. That's going to be a tough scene.
- [129:47]
Tone
Seven not going to happen.
- [129:49]
Pat McAfee
Seven's in the house. So is Joey Poorer, so is Pouncey. I assume some of the ex coaches that coach those boys and lads are back in town but that's the thing you talk about. We'll see if they're tough tonight. That's the thing that the insers hate is like this team doesn't like look like what we would like to portray. Oh my turn that the off. That is not for this team. Right here is what they were doing before that could happen tonight with this Miami Dolphins team. Could they out tough Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh? No way that wouldn't be good.
- [130:19]
Darius J. Butler
Especially with Robert Morris rolling out the red carpet.
- [130:22]
Pat McAfee
Oh, they're really throwing Robert Morris on the.
- [130:25]
Darius J. Butler
They may have broke the curse.
- [130:26]
Connor Rogers
Thank you Robert.
- [130:29]
Ty Schmidt
Thank you.
- [130:29]
Tone
Thanks Nick.
- [130:30]
Pat McAfee
Let's get to a break. I don't like. I don't like that Pittsburgh Staples are welcoming the enemy.
- [130:45]
Tone
Damarino probably set it up to be fair. Came coming back home.
- [130:49]
Darius J. Butler
Can't say no to Dan.
- [130:50]
Pat McAfee
Dan would have had him down there Central Catholic which would have been a pretty sick setup. But I assume Central Catholic said I don't think we can. Dan, we love you but we can't be fucking housing and hosting the Miami Dolphins as the Pittsburgh Steelers are on make or break type run. So then they just started getting outside and they're like who's that guy that goes on McAfee show all the time that acts like he hates the city of Pittsburgh? Aq. Where's he from? Moon, is there anything in there? Well, there's a drive in movie theater. We can see if we can practice there. And then also there's a universe. Let's go call them. They'll let us in.
- [131:22]
Tone
Right next to the airport.
- [131:23]
Pat McAfee
This is actually AQ Shipley that got this.
- [131:26]
Darius J. Butler
Right next to the airport.
- [131:26]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [131:27]
Darius J. Butler
Thank you. Piss Park Wow, what a nice city.
- [131:31]
Pat McAfee
It's windy and cold as out there. Dolphins are used to it for tonight.
- [131:39]
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- [132:46]
Pat McAfee
Football is the Greatest That's AJ Hawk, the toxic tables here at Boston, Connor and that Ty Schmidt, nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butlers. That's cool onesie you got there. That's cool, cool, cool onesie there you got it. One Half of the Hammer Cowboys AP Tones Pittsburgh Steelers host the Miami Dolphins tonight to wrap up week 15. But oh so AP Tone is a college football author multiple time There's a lot of news coming out of college ball right now. Not just the college football playoffs starting on Friday, but also some future movement getting very loud.
- [133:21]
Tone
Yeah, there's five quarterbacks that had big time news over this last day or two as far as transfer portal or not going to transfer portal. So I just wanted to highlight some of those real quick. Quickly. Lenore Sellers Quickie.
- [133:34]
Pat McAfee
Let's get a college football transfer portal quickie.
- [133:36]
Tone
Lenore Sellers, who's a quarterback at South Carolina, he was one of the top prospects potentially for the NFL drafts coming into the season. Had a bit of a down season, but he's going to stay at South Carolina, which is huge, huge news for him and Beamer going into the next season.
- [133:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, great player, obviously Everybody thinks that South Carolina could beat anybody because Lenora Sellers is the quarterback. To your point, Lenora Sellers, he was a big name for the NFL draft. Arch Manning was a big name for the NFL draft. The season certainly went a different direction. Congrats to Shane Bernard Beamer and their nil, which I assume is going to have to do a whole new renegotiation now. There's some other massive storylines.
- [134:14]
Tone
Yeah. Guys that will be leaving their school.
- [134:15]
Pat McAfee
Schools.
- [134:16]
Tone
We'll start with Sam Levitt. He was at Arizona State, led them to the playoffs last season. He is going to be hitting the transfer portal and he'll obviously be one of the more recruited guys coming into next season.
- [134:26]
Pat McAfee
Is Sam Levitz leaving Ken Dillingham? Dillingham was getting emotional whenever he signed an extension. Is in the middle of signing extension, Extra State, Arizona State. You can hear him actually saying there's been a couple other jobs that are offering a lot more money, a lot more everything. Roster development and have, you know, so many different connections in the sport that I would like to be. But I love this place, man. I don't know why I'm fucking from here. I wish I was from somewhere else, but I love this place. He has taken a notice on his hometown school to become a great one. His name's everywhere else. But now he's going to have to find a new quarterback, it seems like going forward. Big D. Feel for Ken Dillingham.
- [135:03]
AJ Hawk
Aj yeah. Where do you find him? Like, who do you. You just go try to find some. I don't. I don't know what you do when you have these quarterbacks. I mean, Indiana, obviously, they have Fernando's brother coming up through the wings. I would. I would assume to be the next guy, but yeah, every team, every single off season at this or actually right at this time of year, like, trying to figure out your roster, what your roster looks like in spring ball.
- [135:22]
Connor Rogers
It's.
- [135:22]
AJ Hawk
It's wild.
- [135:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it is wild. Obviously you don't know who you have, who you don't have. You talk about what is he going to do out there in Arizona State. Well, maybe he goes to transfer portal and find some money.
- [135:30]
Tone
Sure. The. The next two that I wanted to bring up were number one quarterbacks in their class. Coming out. DJ Lagway is transferring or going to hit the portal from Florida. He was the number one overall recruit a couple years ago. Obviously his time with Napier down there at Florida didn't go the way that either of them wanted. So now he'll be hitting the transfer portal and Then from Nebraska, the. Also the other number one quarterback, five star Dylan Raiola is going to be leaving Nebraska as well.
- [135:55]
Pat McAfee
Writing was kind of on the wall for this. Something happened. I believe they separated with his father. His brother decommitted and then now Dylan Riola is expected to enter the transfer portal. Going back to DJ Lagway, initial meetings with Sumrall I guess didn't go well. How do you think that went? What do you think that is?
- [136:13]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, no, no idea.
- [136:15]
Pat McAfee
This is one side of the story coming from Chris Hummer. Obviously everybody is going to have their side. I assume Coach Summer has his own side in this entirety as well. But he said initial meetings didn't go great. I wonder if Summerall was like, hey, you were supposed to be a guy this year. What happened? Why did it not go that way? DJ got pissed. Or maybe DJ is just looking to explore his options anyway.
- [136:34]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, maybe. Maybe a fresh start is what he needed. I mean him. And obviously this would be a fresh start with a new coaching staff coming in. But he has all the tools just like Riley does. But like he just looked lost at time in my opinions on the field. And that to me is coaching system something he needs to be, be comfortable in. So I could potentially see him land on his feet being at a new university and maybe being at the top of the draft when he actually does come out. But this was not shocking, you know, with Napier moving on.
- [136:58]
Pat McAfee
Raola though, this is a pretty big name here now, you know, there's a. This is a pretty big name here. Leaving Nebraska now he was committed to Georgia, I do believe, and then Arizona potentially before that. He's obviously been highly sought after for a long time. Matt Rule, head coach in Nebraska, felt like one of his big achievements was getting Dylan Raiola to Nebraska. Started as a freshman. Started this year. His dad was offensive line coach. Dad no longer offensive line coach there at Nebraska. Feels like his name's big and he has a lot of ball behind him. He's played a lot of football at this point.
- [137:32]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, a ton of football, but kind of crazy. He's the one. He's the only one out of all these guys that's coming off a major, major injury. Is that right? Does he.
- [137:39]
Tone
Levitt had an injury, but it's not.
- [137:40]
Connor Rogers
As major injury Major, yeah, like as like pretty grueling leg injury. So does he drop because of that? Just if you're thinking as far as like payment and you know that order of other guys that are available has.
- [137:52]
Pat McAfee
Multiple, multiple, multiple years left. So maybe there Is like a red shirt year coming or like incentive, other incentive nil deals?
- [137:59]
AJ Hawk
Like can they do that? Hey, if you're healthy on the field and you do that, you certainly hit certain things and we'll give you more.
- [138:04]
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah, a lot of incentive based nil. That's why a lot of teams have guys that are forced to play in the bowl games or some teams don't have bowl games, you know, like they're in. Is a lot of incentive, I guess, or escalators that could potentially be in there. But I would assume wherever he heads to, there's an understanding that like, hey, next year probably not still going to need this. And then whenever we get back in, we'll have to go about that. The business of college football, especially if you're a notable name, is very good. Still crazy that you can just kind of get up and leave whenever you want. But he's not the only one. They're not the only ones.
- [138:32]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [138:32]
Tone
And then the. Not the biggest name coming into the season, but he's now currently the number one ranked quarterback heading into the portal, Cincinnati's Brendan Sorsby. At one point this year he had what, 30 touchdowns to one interception. I think that was going into the Utah game day. He was incredible. This year he's going to hit the portal. Like I said, he's the highest ranked quarterback in the portal right now. And I know and a lot of the teams that you're seeing associated with all these guys, lsu, Indiana, Miami and Texas Tech are kind of like the biggest ones right now because most of their quarterbacks will be leaving shout out to Hayes Fawcett.
- [139:05]
Pat McAfee
And on three, being on top of all of them, Hayes obviously friend of the program. So then he started thinking, well, did Win A dad say he's going in.
- [139:13]
Connor Rogers
The transfer portal soon? Soon. Couple weeks out from that.
- [139:17]
Pat McAfee
Because if Winnie Dad Trinidad doesn't go into the portal, which we all assume, he'll be heading to LSU with his offense coordinator Charlie Weiss Jr. And the entire offensive staff. And Lane Kiffin down there at lsu, you assume that's the case. If not, LSU has all the backing. Right. That was very open. I think Lane in his open and press conference said, yeah, lsu, Florida, Ole Miss, there's a lot of different options. This one by far had the most for players and for roster edition. So they're going to be able to get anybody that you would think they would want.
- [139:47]
Tone
Yes, you definitely could. And then some of the other names that people are looking at, one is obviously Win a dad. One is Bryce Underwood, depending on what happens there. Mason Heinshall, who was the quarterback at Pitt as a freshman was incredible. Do they have the money to keep him there? And then the quarterback from North Texas who is coach Eric Derek Morris leaving for Oklahoma State. Those are.
- [140:06]
Pat McAfee
What's that? What's that kid's name?
- [140:07]
Tone
Oh, Nasta Maker.
- [140:09]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. Yeah. Bingo. Drew. Drew Mustamaker feels.
- [140:12]
Pat McAfee
Feels like he is on a one way trip to Indiana, brother. That feels like a Kurt Signetti special.
- [140:18]
Tone
I saw Source be attached to maybe Indiana as well as well as Levitt because. Because of what Sig's done already with transfer quarterbacks back to back season.
- [140:27]
Connor Rogers
Yes.
- [140:27]
Tone
They are now just a transfer quarter quarterback school.
- [140:29]
Pat McAfee
So is Miami.
- [140:30]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [140:31]
Pat McAfee
A lot of places will think that Drew Mester Maker is the North Texas kid's name. He was back up in high school, right?
- [140:36]
Tone
Yes.
- [140:37]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. He's a fifth string too. Like not even. Not even like immediate backup. Like was on JV for a while.
- [140:42]
Pat McAfee
I don't want to act like we know Signetti because we just know what everybody else knows. And he's been on our show a couple times and I've had a chance to meet him and he's invited us to his house. But I'm not acting like we know him know him know him. He is a great talent of value. One of the things he is looking for is have you been overlooked a bit? Have you been somebody that has been wronged? That is what we have come to know from Kurt Signetti. So the kid who was in JV his senior year and six string and all this shit and now he's gone on to become who he is. I think that feels like a Kurt Signetti type quarterback. But once again Indiana has worked themselves into the chute of being one of the top programs in the country. So they can kind of. And Kurt Signetti is at a different position now than he was the last two offseasons. Especially with their donors seeing the success that their money's having. So it's interesting time for a lot of these schools where you can make a couple good decisions in the transfer portal and change everything for you. Like Indiana, I guess. Like Vandy. Like other places.
- [141:38]
Darius J. Butler
Think about Indiana. Mendoza. What about Cal's quarterback? Did he commit to going back to Cal?
- [141:42]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [141:43]
Pat McAfee
So coach, I actually got a couple texts from their new head coach.
- [141:45]
Darius J. Butler
That's huge.
- [141:46]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Their new head coach. Coach. Coach Tupi, I believe. Josh. Josh. Josh Tapoy. Sorry, I said his name 100% on me. I got a text from him as soon as he So I guess he signed to be their next head coach. Did the press conference, got on a plane, went to Hawaii. It wasn't like a, hey, this is going to be fun. Let's do this entire thing. Got on a plane directly to Hawaii. Meets up with song of the quarterback for cow from this last year freshman who was outrageously good, certainly earlier in the year. Better than the end of the year. But end of the year, who all they have, their coach ends up getting fired. There's a new head coach. So Sanga Politelli will be staying at Cal Rivera. Congrats to him. Tosh Lupoi is his name. Okay. Tosh Lupoi. I got a text from a number I did not know and it was like, tell the world Songa Polo. Tell he's staying a cow or whatever.
- [142:38]
Ty Schmidt
And I.
- [142:39]
Pat McAfee
And it was, it went to my spam. I didn't even really. So I caught up with it a week after I got the text. I had four text messages and I'm like seeing it, I'm like reading it like, who the hell is this? And it's a picture of him with us at the house. Like, thumbs up like crazy. It's like, I could have broke that news. I think he was trying to be like, hey, tell the whole damn world. Yeah, because that's the. You know it, you tell it. So he was basically like, tell the whole damn world. Basically in the text. I didn't get it. I apologize. I didn't have his number saved. But yeah, that was huge deal. That was like, number one mission is we need to keep him around, which is how every coach feels about all these guys. And obviously got some great ones about to leave.
- [143:19]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, and I believe he played football at Cal too, so he's got, you know, vested interests and, and all that kind of stuff. But man, this is like, I, I know the playoffs are starting Friday, but the next, what, month and a half? Especially with Michigan head coaching vacancy still needing to be, you know, filled. Like, there's just so much shit going on with college football right now. It is kind of like, it's almost mind numbing.
- [143:42]
Pat McAfee
This is why college football is the number two sport in the country. It's not just on the field. It's not just how awesome the environments are. The best in America is what college football environments are. But also now we got a lot of business and drama and shit. And I know people don't necessarily love it, but it is good for sport to have a lot of action, a lot of drama. I'm not saying it's good for the teams. I'm not saying it's good for the universities. I'm just telling you for the sport as a whole. Talking points and subjects are only going to magnify even more with the growth of the sport, and that's a good thing, not a bad thing. A.J. hawk.
- [144:16]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I mean, I guess if you're a coach, how. How far down the road can you try to, like. Do you develop quarterbacks anymore? Do you. Do you recruit guys, give them scholarships and develop them?
- [144:25]
Pat McAfee
Did you guys. I think you did right with some saying.
- [144:29]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, well, he came from Alabama after Coach Saban left. He was there for a short.
- [144:33]
Pat McAfee
But yeah, there for a year. Right. Watches will then kind of takes over. Now he's at a Heisman presentation ceremony and he's not getting asked any questions by anybody, just kind of off in the corner. The guy who might break the college football record for. Yeah, A.J. you obviously love this for the Ohio State Buckeyes, but it's like he was there for a year, right? Developed. I think that is something that took place.
- [144:55]
Connor Rogers
Dante Moore at Oregon, he was there for a year behind Dylan Gabriel after they got him to transfer out of ucla.
- [145:00]
Tone
Ty Simpson for years and years and years at Bama.
- [145:02]
Darius J. Butler
That's what's going really on the quarterback. If they, if they're committed to going and actually sitting and waiting or they're like, fuck it, I want to go somewhere else and play now.
- [145:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Situations are situational.
- [145:14]
Tone
All those things for Ohio State, that Julian saying, obviously, the Jeremiah Smith tweet, the losing to Indiana, the Big Ten championship.
- [145:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, we all know. I think we all know.
- [145:25]
Darius J. Butler
What's that?
- [145:27]
Tone
They're going to be motivated.
- [145:28]
Pat McAfee
Ohio State's about to be some in this playoff, I think. Yeah. I think if. If anything tells us about, like, human case studies.
- [145:37]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [145:38]
Pat McAfee
Whenever you get a bunch of elite dudes to feel disrespected, it normally, even if they actually are, it's warranted or not warranted. But if you just get them all to believe that they are disrespected, man, what that does for a group, AJ Is special. And I think Buckeyes fans, you. You couldn't even wait for me to finish what I was saying there about saying when you saw it. Yep. That's a good thing. That is a good thing right there. There's a lot of that happening with the Buckeyes, A.J.
- [146:04]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, it's a great thing seeing Julian saying like that. Obviously you feel bad for him in the moment, but guess what? Like, all Those old linemen, they're going to be. They're going to be going extra hard through the whistle. There's that defense. They're going to be standing up for their guys guy and, and they want people to know how good they are. I mean, you guys were on the field pregame when they played Tennessee last year at Ohio State in the freezing cold. Like that, that warm up, that whole session, like that had a different feel to it, you know, like that was a pissed off football team. Absolutely pissed off coaching staff and everybody. And they just. Yeah, they, they started out and they didn't look back. So I'm not saying everything goes as swimmingly as that last season did. It's always a roller coaster up and down. But I think Ohio State's in a great spot.
- [146:41]
Pat McAfee
I mean, they definitely demolished everybody. It was just from jump, too. Oh, yeah. And you talk about Jack Sawyer and the boys as the shirtless Tennessee guys are running around the field trying to tell everybody how tough they were. Jack Sawyer and them were like, all right, let's fight them. Like, actually, let's go ahead and do this. It was a, it was a special time for that Buckeyes team. Can they find that magic again? It feels like society is giving them all the ingredients they need.
- [147:05]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. And they got the toughest road. You could argue, like, sure, they do have a buy, but they get the winner of A and M and Miami, so who knows what's going to happen there? But I think we all have our assumptions. And then possibly Georgia, like Georgia's been just as dominant.
- [147:18]
Pat McAfee
Or Tulane.
- [147:20]
Connor Rogers
No, no chance. And Ole Miss, also no chance. So Georgia, you could argue, has the easiest path. You know, save Ohio State to get to the Natty. But that Ohio State, you know, that bye week, we've talked about it being bad, might be a massive one for Ohio State to rest, especially after those two go to war.
- [147:39]
Pat McAfee
I'm appreciative that football is back up and running for them this weekend. Last year it felt like forever. I don't know if it got changed or if this is the same schedule as it was, but, boy, I'm thankful. Friday kicks it all off, Saturday kicks it all off, and we get rolling. The teams with the buys last year did not benefit from them. Felt like they were actually more rusty than the teams that got to play, but wouldn't have mattered if they didn't. We shall. And what will these teams look like just two weeks after the season ends for all of them? As the transfer portal was right in the middle of all this. So it's crazy time to be alive. We'll be live from Texas A and M hosting Miami on Saturday at noon on ESPN2 and the ESPN app. We're so. I mean, it's outrageous that we're allowed to do this just every year. This is one of those things that we're doing that we think is just so stupid. It's like super bowl radio row when we're there. We think it's so st. Because how nice the set is, how many people come by and what we get to do. Like, this is outrageous. We get to do this. This is one of those ones where we're living the dumbest lives of all time. And it'll be fully on display on Saturday at noon on ESPN2. And you can follow along as we realize that in the moment. D Buck.
- [148:49]
Darius J. Butler
I can't wait. This is my favorite thing to do, you know, since being on this sports media journey. Being on the field, boots on the ground, calling the game from Phil Field level. You know, the interaction that we're able to have with the players. Sometimes the coaches, the fans, like, other camera people, like, it's all Spanx.
- [149:06]
Pat McAfee
We'll see how he does. I saw him on TV the other night. Go ahead, A.J.
- [149:10]
AJ Hawk
No, the end zone view that we get. We stand like on the field basically in the end zone until people try to get us to move back a little bit. Like it's a special thing to sit there and watch the biggest college football game something like of all time.
- [149:22]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [149:22]
AJ Hawk
In real time. Like right there on the field. Field. It's. Yeah, it's just a wild situation and it's absolutely awesome.
- [149:27]
Pat McAfee
Shout out to Omaha. Allowing us to kind of do and craft whatever we think would be good. Shout out to everybody that's a part of this. Shout out. Ben Ward, I believe he's back. You know. Shout out Dish. I believe he'll be back out there. So we'll be hopefully making the game better. If you were to follow along with. Although Fowler and Herb street will obviously have their call on ABC and espn. I assume we are available on ESPN too, for an alternative option. Now, we can't really see the names.
- [149:58]
Ty Schmidt
No.
- [149:58]
Pat McAfee
We don't know how. How big of a gain. It is always a difficult thing to kind of see. Is that a 3 yard gain or a 13 yard gain? Not 100% sure. From our perspective, that's going to be difficult for us to tell. So the first quarter, we might be trying to find our way back in there and we're lucky and thankful to do it.
- [150:15]
Darius J. Butler
You been there before too. This would be my first time there. It looks unbelievable on tv.
- [150:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they are. They're all in. Like yeah, they are all in. Even when they were ass that place was all in.
- [150:28]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [150:28]
Pat McAfee
Now they're really good and they are. It's a special place, man. I, I, I've talked about this last week whenever we mentioned this that we're getting to do it every time I came back and I think you guys would be able to correct me here or not. Game day when I come back on Mondays and we chit chat about places. Obviously good conversation about spots. Hey, this food was, this crowd was like this felt like early. They maybe weren't in or they were in, then they fell out late. Like there's always like a recap of the college game day universities because I get a chance to go and experience things that like not everybody gets to do. It's like it's a very cool part of that entire thing is just seeing how certain places operate. College Station I think always was a very, very jovial conversation on Monday morning about because I was gifted full cowboy fit the last the second time I was there. Hat buckle boots, the whole thing like hey, welcome back to town. Just wanted to make sure and the guy full on. I mean it was just like very thank. Every time I've been down there. I've been very thankful. I think that's come across in our conversations.
- [151:29]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, without a doubt. And then it's just kind of the cherry on top that you know, if you're going to Texas A and M, the dudes are dudes of dude perfect are probably always, you know, a stone's throw away. Tyler, some somewhere, you know, purple hose or somewhere. So I that's something I've been thinking about as well. I was like, holy. Am I, am I maybe gonna meet the dudes this weekend?
- [151:47]
Pat McAfee
There's a chance we should have Tyler do something on the simulcast.
- [151:52]
Ty Schmidt
Yep, not a terrible idea.
- [151:53]
Tone
Take a snap in the game.
- [151:56]
Pat McAfee
Well, I don't know if we can get a uniform on him. We're gonna have to check his eligibility in that whole thing.
- [152:01]
AJ Hawk
But there has to dunk on the goal post. He can dunk on the goal post, I bet. For sure.
- [152:04]
Pat McAfee
Trash can for sure, right? Just easy.
- [152:06]
Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah.
- [152:07]
Pat McAfee
I mean we could. Easy. Trash can, Gatorade bottle. Just old school. I mean that's the most basic trick shot. Hey, this will be for a $100,000 giveaway on X. We'll give 20 people $5,000. Tyler, if you're Able to bury this Gatorade bottle or a bottle of some sort into a trash can. One shot only, Tyler.
- [152:29]
Ty Schmidt
One shot only, Tyler. He's drilling that. Yeah.
- [152:35]
Pat McAfee
Him making that kick down there last year. Outrageous. Thought he had no chance.
- [152:38]
Connor Rogers
Athlete.
- [152:39]
Pat McAfee
I think he kicked a field goal, too. On their channel. Like, threw an upright that was like this.
- [152:43]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [152:44]
Pat McAfee
Unbelievable what he's able to accomplish, dudes. That is him. College football. We appreciate the opportunity. Yeah. Here it is. This guy.
- [152:51]
Darius J. Butler
Boom.
- [152:51]
Pat McAfee
Easy. He had to have played soccer, right?
- [152:54]
AJ Hawk
Got virtual go.
- [152:55]
Ty Schmidt
He owns a soccer team.
- [152:57]
Connor Rogers
Everything.
- [152:58]
Pat McAfee
He owns everything, too.
- [152:59]
Ty Schmidt
He does.
- [153:00]
Pat McAfee
And that body armor tastes damn good and refuels you anytime.
- [153:04]
AJ Hawk
Nice.
- [153:05]
Pat McAfee
All right, Tyler, we'll see you this weekend, hopefully. Okay, ladies and gentlemen, it's time to do something that we get to do every single Monday, which is kind of test the temperatures of fan bases around the entire country. How's everybody feeling about their teams? How's the fan hood and how are the mindsets? Well, I put out a tweet saying, hey, I want to hear from you. Let me know how you feel. And what do you think? Think needs to be done? All you got to use is, I don't want to overreact. But then Ty goes through him and finds his favorites. It ended up being the number two trend on X. We appreciate everybody participating, and obviously, we know it's not about us. It's about ball. Let's get to the tweets. This one's from Boston. Connor, Big Patriots fan. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but New England has everything in front of them still. We all wanted that victory bad, but that isn't the plan. Vrabel is going to use this loss like HGH to get the boys juiced up for the playoff run that this team is capable of. I agree. Conman. I don't know about the hgh, Maybe the horse stuff that people were taking back in the day. I think this is everything that Vrabel could have ever wanted for motivation for a young team that hasn't really been here yet.
- [154:10]
Connor Rogers
Con man. Yeah, no doubt about it. I think Sunday was a big time. This is what it's like to have an mvp, and this is what it's like to be in an MVP conversation. Drake Major is not there yet. The team as a whole, I think you could argue is not there yet. Injuries on both sides for the Bills and for the Patriots. But if they can get healthy and if they can close the right way to the season, rather, I do think there's a chance they can go on a run. But once again, Josh Allen putting on that cape. He's superman in the snow, baby.
- [154:37]
Pat McAfee
Yes, he is. And I don't know if there was snow. I know it was cold. I appreciated JJ Watt in real life time accurately describing what Drake May did. Their arm punt, 49 yard arm punt right there. Ball down inside the 10. We'll take that over a punt. I appreciate that piece of information out there. Travion Henderson obviously has a couple explosive plays and scores. He scored too soon though. Did he score too soon is potentially the question. What was the time of possession in the second half? Con man?
- [155:05]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. In the second half, the Bills had the ball for 21 minutes, 15 seconds and the Patriots had the ball for 8 minutes 45 seconds. Biggest thing to third quarter, they had 10 total plays, one rushing play. If you go back and look at it, I think they averaged nine, nine and a quarter per rush. But we just did not have the ball enough in the second half. Josh Allen is still Josh motherfucking Allen. And yes, James Cook is very, very good at football.
- [155:31]
Pat McAfee
So were the Patriots though. You know, you could be a good team and lose late right now. Like teams are good right now.
- [155:37]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [155:37]
Pat McAfee
The only thing that matters, you don't lose in the playoffs. Now granted, granted it's possible, but you're going to lose a game or two here down the stretch to a team that's very good and also capable of doing what you're doing.
- [155:46]
Darius J. Butler
Absolutely. A lot of people were looking at this game as like the test. Okay, Patriots, great record coming off the bye week. Great, pretty good opponent, especially Josh Allen at quarterback. Coming to your house, you got a chance to get the hat and T shirt and then just kind of got outplayed down the stretch. But Josh Allen, he's going to do that to a lot of people. Leading NFL in 4th quarter passing yards and touchdowns and, and then kind of on the flip side, you know, Bo Nicks was kind of that it was the same thing. Hey, can he do it against a good team, good Packers? So I think the Patriots still be in it at the end, but it will be tough at this point, especially with 15 been out to bet against Josh Allen.
- [156:18]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so that's what I was about to say down the stretch. You think Josh Allen can do it this year and do you think it'll be held against him that he didn't beat Patrick Mo? So Josh Allen goes, goes through the AFC playoffs here and gets to the super bowl, which obviously the Buffalo Bills have been trying to to do. For some time and had a team in our eyes to be able to do that over the past few years. If they were able to do that and do everything and go this offseason, they would immediately say he didn't have to play Mahomes. So that's exactly the reason why. Which is kind of bullshit, but that's the world that we live in. But this Bills team, you think they can do it?
- [156:46]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, I think that would be stupid if people held it against him, because Mahomes, if he was hurt, let's say week three, maybe, but since he got hurt when they were kind of already eliminated, you know, he didn't make it to the den. So if Josh is able to get to the dance and then make his way to a Super bowl, win the championship, that won't be held against him. The defense, the run defense, is their biggest heel. So Josh Allen, this offense, historically, he's been unbelievable in the playoffs. If they can go and put up 35, 40 points a game and kind of take the other team's rushing offense out of it. Yes. But, yeah, with Mahomes out of the picture, I think they can make a run and win it all.
- [157:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And we started going through all the teams and we were just putting ourselves on a Friday, having to pick the game games, and we're like, you picking against Josh Allen with bum. You picking against Josh Allen with bump. And it's like, am I picking the Bills? Am I picking the Bills right now? I never could have expected that at this stage. But they are so fucking good. Especially because Josh Allen is so fucking good.
- [157:42]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. Very interesting, too. If you look at this playoff picture, like, would you want to be. And I'm asking you guys, like, would you want to be the. The. The two seed or the six seed? I'm not sure if the Bills are five or six, but, like, if you're the two seed and you got to play the Texans at home and then possibly play, you know, who knows, the Jags or whatever, like, what would you kind of rather do as far as path? Of course you want home field, but do you want to play the Texans in the first round? Because now that's what I'm looking at as a Patriots fan. Like, shit, that five or six is. Still not sure about that. That. That seat. Okay, that six seed almost might be better than the. The two.
- [158:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I think C.J. stroud and the Texans defense is a scare. I think that is going to be a hard.
- [158:27]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [158:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I think that Texans defense is a nightmare now. I'm not saying that the Broncos defense isn't a nightmare, but we've seen a couple people have success against them. Houston Texans defense, since they've become the defense that they are, it's not a lot of good times. Anybody, nobody's having real good. The NFL does not want the Houston Texans in prime time down the stretch in the playoffs because what they are going to do, the other team's offense, which is where the all the stars are, is just going to smother them. And that is literally what they have been. And then C.J. is a guy. We know he can be a guy if he performs as a guy. It's like with that defense, anybody can win. So it's like nobody wants the Texans right now and they don't even lead the AFC South. The Jacksonville Jaguars do. It's a fascinating little AFC developer.
- [159:10]
Tone
I say this with all due respect, and if you pop that back up there for me, Foxy, if you're the. If you're the AFC north winner, who's going to be the 4 seed? You want the Fox seed to stay the same. If you're the Jaguars, you'd love the Chargers to drop to 6, and if you're the Patriots, you'd love for them to drop to seven. And that's with all due respect to the Chargers, but I don't think you want to play Josh Allen. I don't think you want to play the Texans defense.
- [159:28]
Pat McAfee
So we should not be popping up a graphic that's wrong whenever you want to.
- [159:32]
Tone
It's not wrong.
- [159:32]
Pat McAfee
It's not wrong. No. Okay, so you said Chargers dropped the six.
- [159:35]
Tone
No, I'm saying if they drop to.
- [159:37]
Pat McAfee
I'm saying you were saying.
- [159:38]
Connor Rogers
Well, I don't understand how it works week to week because the Bills have been the five seed for a long time, and then I thought the Chargers were the six, and then a week later they. They flip. But I know it's tiebreakers and all that. It just makes no sense.
- [159:49]
Tone
The Chargers are the five over the six because they win the tiebreak over the Buffalo Bills based on best win percentage in conference games.
- [159:54]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, which I. Which last week was different. That's why I legitimately did not know.
- [159:58]
Pat McAfee
Okay, got it. Yeah. I thought we potentially had that wrong shout out to the graphic maker for getting it right whenever we put it up there. But it is fascinating how all this can kind of change the path to the super bowl. And there's some really difficult ones.
- [160:11]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. If you're up to there. If you up there at top it, who you Play.
- [160:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, right. We got good defense, too. We got good defense.
- [160:18]
Darius J. Butler
That's how players feel. Most players.
- [160:20]
Tone
As they should.
- [160:20]
AJ Hawk
That's worried about playing us is what you're saying.
- [160:22]
Ty Schmidt
They're.
- [160:23]
AJ Hawk
They're scared to play us no matter what team you are.
- [160:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Have to get to that belief at least, you know? Have to get to that belief at least. And by the way, seven seeds won super bowl before anybody could do it. Anybody could do it. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from epic, Normie. Hashtag I don't to want. But what they gonna say now? The Broncos are a killing machine. Death, taxes, and a Broncos win every week. Guaranteed. Longest win streak in the NFL. Longest home win streak in the NFL. Best record in the NFL. Best team in the NFL. Your Super Bowl 60.
- [160:58]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [160:59]
Pat McAfee
Champions, Denver Broncos. I love this from north. Normie, were the Broncos fans flexing their in this or no?
- [161:09]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I think Broncos fans have felt disrespected for, like, the last, like, six or seven weeks, which is kind of weird because I think it's maybe different for us because going into the season, they were the Cinderella that was. Everyone was picking them, but it kind of has been. People have been trying to poke holes in their resume as they've just continued to win. It's a. This is a great defense, but Bo Nicks just isn't there yet. Their offense isn't good enough. Wait till these guys play someone good. And then again yesterday, like, that, there was a moment there where, like, the packers were very close to completely taking control of that game. And then if you. I mean, if you watch that whole thing, it's not hard or it'd be very hard not to think, like, hey, Bo Nicks could go win these guys a Super Bowl. Like, he. He was outstanding yesterday. And again, their defense didn't play great all day, but then in the fourth quarter when they got the lead and they needed to get stops, I think they hadn't sacked Love through the first three quarters, maybe, and they had at least four sacks in the last, I don't know, five minutes of the fourth quarter. So it's like closing time when you absolutely have to have it. Like, the Broncos just showed up.
- [162:13]
Pat McAfee
Bo, Drake, Jaden, Caleb. We're dancing with. We're dancing with it. Like, greatest draft class in the history right now. Early. We're very early, but, boy, we are dancing with it.
- [162:24]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, we're very early, but it's hard to argue at this point, like, even looking at, like, Jaden this year, sure, you can just call it a while. She got hurt. But look at the progression of the guys and how much better they're getting. Like Drake, May and Bo Nix and Caleb have all made massive steps now. I don't know about Jaden. He hopefully next year he bounces back. But yeah, you can go ahead and look at nine. Like if I'm, if I'm looking at the Vikings and you're just strictly from outside looking and not a fan at all, like you are definitely buying stock in 9. You look at the teams that he's beat. He beat the Bears in primetime and yes, it was just one good quarter and it was a massive comeback. But then in this primetime game in Dallas, he puts on a show like he could be a big time player, big time moments type of guy, and.
- [163:09]
Pat McAfee
He'S acknowledging that his form and technique is ass. They basically, that's what they said last night. Collinsworth was like, here's a side by side of him and Josh. They both are basically very much on their front foot. They're off balance. They've been able to do that because of who they are their entire careers. The Vikings and JJ have acknowledged that. But that's for him to work on in the offseason then. Justin Jefferson's brother was a quarterback. I heard Chris Collinsworth say so, like Chris Collinsworth talked to Justin Jefferson about not being a diva and kind of not getting pissed off. Justin Jefferson said, my brother's a quarterback. I understand what they're going to going through. But I think everybody there kind of acknowledges like JJ is nowhere near as good of a passer as he could become or as good of a passer as we need him potentially to be on some plays. But that's only up and to the right. The moxie, the leadership, all that seemingly is everything that J.J. is.
- [163:58]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he just needs to stay healthy because that was kind of his big thing is we talked ad nauseam about like, hey, this guy needs reps, this guy needs to play. And then how, how many games did he end up playing in this year? Like, so that's a big part of it, you know. You know, like he got shit on for that packers game at Lambo, but realistically that was like his fourth start of the season when we were in week 12 or whatever it was. So he was kind of behind the eight ball this entire year, but you certainly see glimpses of it every week.
- [164:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, well, yeah, I mean, it was just like when Josh Allen was just a freak show athlete with a great arm. He's Going to make a play every once in a while and then all the intangibles. Nine has. Well, J.J. mcClure, McCarthy has. Yeah. We'll see if Nine is able to continue doing that. Kill Nine, keep J.J. and we can't wait to see it. I did not like that they put Phil Rivers face on to nine. Whenever I was doing that thing you got nine happened.
- [164:49]
Connor Rogers
Happened to Drake as well.
- [164:51]
Pat McAfee
I asked Elon to delete it.
- [164:52]
Ty Schmidt
Joe Burrows too.
- [164:53]
Tone
Yeah, he kind of deserve.
- [164:55]
Darius J. Butler
Got nine too.
- [164:56]
Scotty Scheffler
He's been getting a lot though, number nine.
- [164:59]
Pat McAfee
But I asked, I asked. I did not love it.
- [165:06]
Connor Rogers
Jeez, that one's good with the face paint there.
- [165:10]
Pat McAfee
That's the hater reporter. I mean, hater report. They're going to get what they do. They're going to get you their artists on there.
- [165:15]
Connor Rogers
Looks good.
- [165:16]
Pat McAfee
It's very well done, which is why I told Elon, people don't know if this is real or not, so delete it.
- [165:22]
Darius J. Butler
I appreciate you asking that.
- [165:23]
Connor Rogers
The Burrow ones are getting worse than the night edit.
- [165:26]
Pat McAfee
Honestly, I think about Burrow just being so bummed out. I don't know if we have an overreaction for Burrow or not. I don't want to dive into it right now.
- [165:32]
Ty Schmidt
No, I don't think there was one. They've given up. They don't.
- [165:36]
Pat McAfee
He needs. He needs her own.
- [165:39]
AJ Hawk
I heard you. I heard you talk about maybe a little ceremony.
- [165:42]
Pat McAfee
I think so.
- [165:43]
AJ Hawk
Does feel like that's where. Where we've gotten.
- [165:46]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I'm not saying that that's a bad thing, by the way. I'm just saying there are. There are options to kind of get a little bit of a reset from our understanding of what could happen now. There's people that obviously have done the whole thing and said that they didn't like it or whatever and it's been terrible. And I'm not saying everybody should do it, but there comes a time, I think in some people's lives, whether it's football or other things that have drove them mentally to be to a spot where they can't get out of whatever. And it feels like this is an alternative to kind of change your perspective, change your mindset and everything like that. And we saw it work for the positive for a guy who went on to go back to back MVP whenever he was potentially searching for something as well. So, yeah, I'm not saying this is a guarantee that he's going to do this or he needs to do this, but I am saying it feels like he's At a state, mentally, where it's like, I don't like. I don't. I don't like what I'm seeing out of Joey B. Too talented, too successful, too good of a teammate, too appreciated, too liked to be at a point in his life where he's not happy, you know, like, absolutely. You know what I mean?
- [166:46]
AJ Hawk
AJ Especially like when you. Yeah. When you think about, like, whenever he's done playing football some days, like, man, I wish. I like. It is true. Like, you wish you would enjoy the moments more that you. When you look back and you realize how special it is, which I'm sure he does. He's very. Seems like a very appreciative dude, but I don't know, like, it just doesn't. Whatever's going on, it would not be fun right now, I think in Cincy.
- [167:05]
Pat McAfee
Jamar Chase said I don't ever have to ask him to uplift him and I might have to do that. And then he's the one that kind of said there's a lot going on in people's lives. And it's like, Joey, we want to let you know, man, you're great for ball. You have been great for ball, and we appreciate your contribution to sport and anything that isn't making you feel like that and life and society. Let's go ahead and get those anchors out of there, brother. Let's go ahead and get those anchors out of there and let's just. Let's just keep it going. You're special, brother. You're one of one. And we need you to stay in ball because of how great you are. Now, if it's strictly because you guys can't play for a Super bowl this year, everybody was kind of saying that was probably going to happen with the way he constructed your roster. So it's kind of a give and take situation for this year. Hopefully next year. Even better. Let's get to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from Shipped it at Shipped it hashtag. I don't want overreact, but the Chiefs are officially no longer the Chiefs for the first time in a decade. And sadly, we don't really know when or if they might be the Chiefs again. The Chiefs are likely going to look very different next season, perhaps never the same. And that Wolf's just rotten in jail watching it all.
- [168:19]
Tone
Yeah, they need to break him out.
- [168:21]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, I don't know about that.
- [168:24]
Pat McAfee
We need to keep him behind bars. That man is a psycho.
- [168:27]
Tone
What if they want to win again?
- [168:29]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if it's him.
- [168:30]
Connor Rogers
Or it's time to burn back Red Extreme.
- [168:34]
Pat McAfee
I did see a couple other chief super fans on banisters and stuff this weekend. It feels like they got a lot of those brewing over there. But that's what happens whenever you win all the time. Fandom becomes super fandom. Casual becomes obsession. When you're on top of the world, sometimes you can fly a little too close to the sun. Is that what happened to the Kansas City Chiefs? We shall see. And can they reset? Is this a delay or a deletion of a dynasty?
- [169:03]
AJ Hawk
AJ this is a delay.
- [169:06]
Pat McAfee
Delay.
- [169:06]
AJ Hawk
You got Patrick Mahomes. You are not deleting anything.
- [169:09]
Pat McAfee
Amen, brother. That's how I feel as well. Hopefully Shiptick can get back on board with that. Let's go to the next one. This is from Khaldim at God of the Voyage. Really? Is this who you guys are praying to whenever you're doing voyages?
- [169:22]
Ty Schmidt
No. I don't know. This guy seemed like he's into some like goofy video game. That's just. That was my first take based on his profile.
- [169:29]
Pat McAfee
Bill, what's the video game the God of the Voyage? Calheem would potentially be a part of. He's 30 seconds behind, so we'll wait for him to catch up.
- [169:38]
AJ Hawk
Hashtag.
- [169:39]
Pat McAfee
I don't want to overreact, but the Bills are inevitable. Half our starters wouldn't even make rosters. And yet as long as you have Joshua Patrick Allen, every game is within reach. No lead is safe. Hear me now? Quote me later. Buffalo Bills are your Super Bowl 60 champions. A lot of people crown themselves as super bowl champions. I like that this time of year. I like the hope, I like the optimism. I like that Joshua's middle name is Patrick and I like that they let James Cook shout to the Buffalo Bills. This is a huge win belt to ass early, so showing the resiliency. And I like the fact half our stor starters won't even make other teams rosters debut. What does that mean? You think whenever you talk about a.
- [170:21]
Darius J. Butler
Squad, I wouldn't go that far. But yeah, whenever you have Josh Allen, like we said earlier, it would be hard to bet against him. If you're a fan of this team, you got to feel very, very good about your chances going forward. With the Chiefs being out of it with that history there. But with James Cook, if they can run the ball, actually it's based on north, their tight end combination. Then some of the players on defense, Binford, who has been, you know, their best corner, he got banged up. He should be back at some point during the run. And then Ed Oliver, who changed the game, their run defense, he tore his pec or bicep. And there's been some rumblings about maybe him making a late playoff return if they're able to get there. So, yeah, if I'm a Bills fan, I feel damn good about myself.
- [171:00]
Pat McAfee
Magic the Gathering is the game that Kim Goda Voyage is a part of. And what you heard there was Nick giving a immediate smart ass response to that answer being delivered in the middle of your breakdown of the Buffalo Bills.
- [171:13]
Jason Myers
Sorry, but.
- [171:14]
Pat McAfee
Which I appreciate, but yeah, they're A special group, A.J. i think, is what we're all saying. I think they're a magical group. You know?
- [171:22]
AJ Hawk
They are magical. Can someone explain magic together and how you actually play? Does anybody know?
- [171:26]
Pat McAfee
Well, it's very similar to that other one where you do the. The thing where you're around for a long time, you create a lot of stuff. You shake hands and then you go around and do your elder ring. Exactly.
- [171:35]
AJ Hawk
Card game though, right?
- [171:36]
Tone
No card game in the name. Yeah, you gather and there's magic.
- [171:39]
Pat McAfee
It's a more nerdy Pokemon. I think that's the best way to put it. Understanding what? Yeah.
- [171:45]
AJ Hawk
Well, what are you doing? Pokemon even.
- [171:46]
Tone
Maybe Burrow.
- [171:48]
Pat McAfee
Go. Yeah, Pokemon Go. Remember I found out that we weren't going to win the super bowl because our offensive linemen were doing it in training camp instead of paying picture while we had going on battle Pokemon. Were you there for that? Were you there that year for that?
- [171:58]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, I think so. Yeah.
- [171:59]
Pat McAfee
It's outside the cafeteria. We all saw it.
- [172:02]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, that was. That was interesting.
- [172:04]
Pat McAfee
You got to come over here. What?
- [172:06]
AJ Hawk
Guys were walking into traffic.
- [172:07]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [172:09]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [172:10]
AJ Hawk
Oh yeah, they did. I mean, you got. If you die doing that, it's on you, pal.
- [172:14]
Darius J. Butler
You committed. You committed.
- [172:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I mean my dad told me that one time when I went bigfoot hunting in the hills of Georgia. It's very true. If you die doing that, this one's on you. This is how this thing's over.
- [172:23]
AJ Hawk
We're not gonna feel bad for you.
- [172:26]
Pat McAfee
Said. Wait a minute. You're doing what with who? If you die out there, like expect it. And also on you. Got it. I'm gonna go find Bigfoot though. What if I fucking get him? Didn't find him and I'm alive. Win, win. Let's go to the next one, shall we? Tanner. Ron. Hashtag. I don't want to over react, but this might have been an all time bummed out weekend. Packers had a Nine point lead in the second half and super bowl future went to absolute shite. I was told to never give up by a certain man, but he too tapped out. I'm tapping on this season. Heal up, boys. I hope that this is not what this has become with John Cena and the Green Bay packers tie.
- [173:05]
Ty Schmidt
There's so many of these today.
- [173:07]
Connor Rogers
So many.
- [173:08]
Ty Schmidt
Just so many that I saw that screenshot 20,000 times this morning probably. And I just said, you know what? I feel you, brother. I'm kind of feeling the same way. I'm not that where I was this morning, but I get feeling like that especially after watching Cena this weekend.
- [173:24]
Pat McAfee
Were you smiling while it was happening? Because Cena was content with. It did feel like you guys are really.
- [173:28]
Ty Schmidt
He was, he was. It made me laugh. So yeah, I was smiling.
- [173:31]
Pat McAfee
Maybe you're content because you lose Micah now the expectation is what not probably going to win. So maybe you do smile a little and just.
- [173:39]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I think now I don't have to be as disappointed if they don't win at all because it's like, you.
- [173:44]
Pat McAfee
Know, Cena creates the amount of his face obviously coming into that thing. This one is going to be around for. Oh yeah, I love that one. All time WWE put out the 4K version of it. So it, it had another life, another birthday.
- [174:00]
Darius J. Butler
Knew what they were doing with that.
- [174:01]
Pat McAfee
It's a good move and people say it was a bad ending. It's going to live forever. Bone for the business. Still crying?
- [174:12]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he's.
- [174:13]
AJ Hawk
Was he like more. Was he more angry or more sad?
- [174:16]
Pat McAfee
I think it was all the stages. Angry early though. Very angry immediately. Which led to his group texting and public posting. Yeah, I, I had some people tagged me in some of his posts going, good luck. Pat's going to fire you for saying this or whatever. It's like you should see in the group text. You're just in a group text. This guy, he's allowed to have his passion. Yeah, exactly. He's allowed to feel how he. He wants to feel and WWE's allowed to say what they want to say. Tonight, 8:00 Eastern. Netflix. WWE Monday Night Raw live from Hershey, Pennsylvania.
- [174:47]
Darius J. Butler
Driving, huh? Is Bone driving?
- [174:49]
Pat McAfee
That's where he was gonna drive to?
- [174:51]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [174:52]
Ty Schmidt
Party concert for the opening week.
- [174:53]
Tone
No, it wasn't even that.
- [174:55]
Pat McAfee
No, it was Hardy.
- [174:56]
Ty Schmidt
Was it? Yeah, Hardy.
- [174:58]
Tone
I thought it was like someone alone.
- [174:59]
Connor Rogers
Three and a half hours for Hardy. Yeah.
- [175:01]
Pat McAfee
Sixteen hour drive, round trip he was going to do. Opening weekend of NFL season.
- [175:06]
Ty Schmidt
It was a meet and greet though.
- [175:07]
Connor Rogers
Yeah. And he. He didn't even have tickets. He was just going to stand outside the door.
- [175:11]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [175:11]
Pat McAfee
Let's get to the next overreaction. You deserve this. Bone this from noise pants@JWAT23. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, Bone. The Chargers are Joe Al and Rashawn Slater away from being unstoppable. Defense is flying around, catching bodies. Herbert finding ways to win with one hand and no blocking. Give him his two generational tackles back, and the rest of the league is. I actually agree with that.
- [175:37]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [175:37]
Tone
Yeah.
- [175:37]
Pat McAfee
Watching that game. They're on a smaller screen. They were on a smaller screen up here. Herbert was just running for his life the entire time. And then all Chargers fans kept saying was, yes, this is what it has been. Basically, they drafted offensive linemen, they get injured, they try to fix it, they get injured. Jim Harbaugh says the only thing that matters is protecting Herbert. For some reason, they just can't get the golden goose any protection, and he's running for his goddamn life. Ty Schmidt.
- [176:04]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I mean, you could. Obviously things can happen, but you could argue like, hey, if. If his offensive line is halfway decent, then he doesn't have a broken left hand right now. And, like, their offense looks much differently. But you're probably thinking, thinking going into the playoffs, like, hey, the Chargers, you know, with a. An AFC that's kind of wide open, with the exception of a couple teams who might be a little bit better, like, their defense is unreal. You could argue like, hey, this team could win a Super Bowl. But I think it's pretty evident with their offensive line struggles, like, they're probably not going to win this.
- [176:36]
Tone
I. I looked this up earlier when we were talking about Mahomes and how much he's run this year and stuff like that. He ran. He's. He ran 69 times this year and sacked. Was sacked 34 times. Okay. Justin Herbert has ran the ball 70 times this year and has been sacked 49 times.
- [176:51]
Pat McAfee
15 more than Patrick Mahomes is getting banged up. Plus another 15 hits running the ball or whatever. Herbert is special. I think we agree with that. Is he enough to just be able to win this by himself?
- [177:01]
Darius J. Butler
See me, it's hard. We. We rarely see that ever in NFL. You know that. We saw that with Joe Burrow. He got the closest without having the offensive line that can actually protect you. You know, you can get this beat out of you. So, no, it'd be too tough. Tweet was great, though. You have those guys healthy who you thought they Were you drafted and paid them? They can go and win the Super Bowl. They have everything else. They have weapons, they have the defense. They've had have all those things. But without an offensive line we talk about every year with AQ in the trenches, you don't have a real shot.
- [177:27]
Connor Rogers
They feel snake bit by injury every year. I feel like this is the same story with the Chargers and that is what really sucks. Especially, especially with a QB like Justin Herbert. Like he is a generational type of guy. But it feels like every single year they're dealing with injuries to the most important positions too. Not just like you know, a linebacker. Not that linebackers are an important age yet. Calm down. But like to the left tackles into their pass rusher into their corner. It's like almost every single year it is something vital.
- [177:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, let's go to the next one here. Bear. Force one at bear. Don't now 77. I don't want to overreact but the NSC north is the Bears division. Beat the shite out of the Brownies JV team and SH Doops another int. Toyota Thon in Green Bay over Ford A thon in Detroit over. Onward and upward. See you in the playoffs where we will be hosting good, better, best. Bears are for real AJ It's a whole new culture there and this seems like it's about the next 10 years years or so.
- [178:32]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, it does seem like Ben Johnson's culture has got in there and his, his offensive scheme is really, you know, taking place in Caleb. I believe when there are a couple times Caleb look and like gave a little thing to the crowd like oh, I'm not cold or whatever. The cold doesn't affect me. I know he was feeling it pretty good. So I think that's a big step for them and also for Chicago. Credit to them in the grass. I'm sure they spray painted some of it but it actually doesn't look like it's nine inches long. Like it usually isn't all torn up.
- [178:55]
Pat McAfee
Well, completely frozen obviously it's going to be a sticky turf. We did see some pigeons on the ground during punts yesterday. And also flying over top of the W. The pigeons like to get in there. The pigeons were there whenever the football was shite. They certainly wanted to get a little bit of a closer view on a good Chicago Bears football team.
- [179:11]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, there's nothing you can say that's going to make me think those birds are real but should dupes. That is unbelievable. I don't know if I ever seen a Sha dupes that was comedy without Roman Dunes and DJ Moore and Caleb Williams. If they actually start to kind of get going together. Luther Burton and him especially now for these rookies and I mean they're just. Defense has two or three picks every single week. Granted, it was shoops in the Browns, but still they get their hands on ball. They. They do hold on to them.
- [179:39]
Pat McAfee
29, I think. Or is it 30 at the insane. Yeah, 30 picks is. It's a greedy bunch back there. It's a greedy bunch back there. Living off of turnovers. Does that work in the playoffs?
- [179:51]
Ty Schmidt
Not typically.
- [179:52]
Connor Rogers
Definitely.
- [179:54]
Pat McAfee
I thought we were about a year out from the Chicago Bears being like super bowl contending team. If it's negative 20 and your quarterback spinning it like that and you guys are thumping like that, I'm like, wait a minute, maybe this team can have a chance.
- [180:08]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, you're going to have a chance. It'll be close, like no matter what.
- [180:11]
Pat McAfee
Absolutely. Congrats to the Bears. Love what you're doing up there. Are you at the good, better or best state of the team currently and have you never let it rest yet? And when does the good become the better and the better become the best? If you have haven't, we shall see with Ben Johnson. Let's get to the next one. Here is from DC man at triple I. DC Man Triple I. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but the Rams game broke Darnold. He's been a shell of his early season self and needs to get his ginger head out of his ass and quickly before he throws the season away like one of his four ints against the Rams. If we lose Thursday, pack up this season. Thursday's gigantic for the NFC West. Yeah, we got Rams, Seahawks on Thursday night. Thank God. That is what's kicking off Week 16. The NFC west is the NFL's best. We all agree with that. Them kicking off week 16 special. And to his point though, Sam Darnold is going to have to be productive because we know Matthew Stafford and the Rams offense certainly are.
- [181:11]
AJ Hawk
We need Sam Darnold to be he. I'm sure he remembers last year and how, you know, his ending in Minnesota. He knows he needs to play well down the stretch at the end of the season. So I mean, Seahawks are by no means out of it, obviously. 11 and 3. They're still a very good team. But yeah, Thursday, what a. What an awesome treat for us actually to get a great game like that on Thursday night.
- [181:28]
Pat McAfee
The Lions are lurking, obviously, but here's the top four odds on Favorites to win the super bowl The Green Bay packers plus 750. Post Micah loss. Philadelphia Eagles plus 550. They get a huge win over the Raiders. Saw Bradley Cooper at the game.
- [181:43]
Connor Rogers
Oh wow.
- [181:43]
Pat McAfee
It's good to see Bradley Cooper out there having a good time, being happy. This is the Seahawks plus 350. They just ruined Phil Rivers entire life. And then the Rams plus 170. This is to win the NFC West. Are these the odds?
- [181:55]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [181:55]
Pat McAfee
Oh, this is the win the NFC as a whole.
- [181:57]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [181:57]
Pat McAfee
Got it. Got it. To win the NFC as a whole. So whenever you talk about it, you're talking about those four teams whenever it comes to the draftkings odds and we get two of them on Thursday night. That's awesome.
- [182:08]
Connor Rogers
Huge.
- [182:09]
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah. This is what it's supposed to be.
- [182:11]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, this will pretty much decide home field advantage.
- [182:13]
Tone
I was gonna say that. And yes it will. And there's a team that isn't on there in the San Francisco 49ers. They still to play Seattle. So if Seattle beats LA on Thursday night and then the Niners beat Seattle, NERS would be the one seed I believe.
- [182:26]
Pat McAfee
Well, let's see cuz the Niners got a big one on Monday which leads to this. Michael Jenk Jenkins@Squirrel Man69. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but Colts are getting the Super Bowl.
- [182:39]
Connor Rogers
Okay.
- [182:40]
Pat McAfee
We got Grandpa Rivers throwing piss missiles out there and putting the best team in the NFC in a dogfight for their life. We easily ramrod every AFC team going forward. Get ready for the dick down. Jags love that. Jags just had the best game of their lives. They're on top of the AFC South. Michael Jenkins says not for long, my friends. The Colts just did what they did to the Seattle Seahawks who are a special team, special unit everybody's talking about. Phil wasn't really able to do anything. Have many teams been able to do anything against the Seattle Seahawks? Nope. Let's talk about this defense without a bunch of of guys. DeForest Buckner may be back soon. Ooh, maybe back soon. Obviously. Sauce out. Ward out. We got a lot of injuries on defensive side. We held them the six field goals. Okay. Sam Donald has been historically great. So I can see why Squirrel man would be pumped about the Indianapolis Colts. There's a lot of Colts fans that wanted to bow out. Okay. There was a lot of very angry Colts fans after this loss. A lot of people saying mean things about the coach.
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Tone
Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah, big time. I wanted, I wanted to pick like a Positive one. Because I thought all the river stuff was just like really cool, you know, I mean, like even if you're not a Colts fan, like, that was. That was awesome watching him go in there and damn near beat Seattle. But, yeah, Colts fans didn't take it that way. This was basically the only positive overreaction there was for the Colts. A lot of it was basically like, well, Grandpa river is depends again, a lot of that kind of stuff. Lot of people are about done with coach stinking as you know. They want to say. Yeah, I know. But no one knows what his real name is anymore, so it's coach Steichen.
- [184:15]
Pat McAfee
Shane Shinking. His name. Shane Ste. We almost beat the se.
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Tone
Why were people so upset? Because I believe everyone was making fun of the Colts all week and they were going to get blown out and they were 14 point dogs and then they almost won the game. So why is everyone so.
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Pat McAfee
I have no idea. No idea. Well, that was.
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AJ Hawk
That logo is way too, you know, goopy. It's just no footing out there.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's very slick. And whenever you have that much tape on your ankles, once that starts sliding, it's like the bottom of a stilt.
- [184:42]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, you don't wear cleats either.
- [184:45]
Pat McAfee
Of course not. Because he wear new balances.
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Darius J. Butler
Like the little nubs.
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Tone
Yeah, turf shoes.
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Pat McAfee
He had to pull them out of a truck case too, from my understanding.
- [184:53]
Connor Rogers
I mean, he popped on.
- [184:54]
Pat McAfee
You're damn right he hit one. Yeah, of course he did. You gotta remember he's seen this defense a thousand times. That's his juke. That was his juke right there, not his slip and fall rope.
- [185:05]
Connor Rogers
A dope.
- [185:06]
Pat McAfee
All right, last one here. Last one from Nick yada yada at wise man's full. Hey, hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but Lions still have a good road to the playoffs. Need three wins verse Steelers low scoring offense sub 500 Vikings, Bears, whom we've already beaten compared to zero wins in the 2008. This is a parade. Toughen up Lions newbies MC DC will duct tape team to the victories. Now, foxy, yo, you like where Nick yada yada is coming from? Or have you kind of given up hope too? When the Rams just literally pound you guys right into the dirt right down the middle? I love absolutely everything about this tweet. Normal Lions fans know, hey, you got three games left and you can make the playoffs. We're in a good spot, baby. And guess what might happen? All right, let's say the packers beat Chicago. Boom. We just Got to beat Steelers, Vikings and then Ben Johnson. Mcdc for the playoffs would be an absolutely epic game. So that's what I'm hoping for. That's all Lions fans are hoping for at this point. That'd be a. That'd be a football storm. Oh, yeah. That'd be lightning and. That'd be awesome. Good. Better. Best vers. I'll tell you what, Mayor.
- [186:24]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [186:24]
Pat McAfee
Wow. In Chicago, everyone says golf can't play in the cold. Perfect for us. Caleb can. Caleb. Caleb can play in the cold.
- [186:36]
Ty Schmidt
The Lions absolutely embarrassed them last time. A lot of people were saying mcdc ran up the score on Johnson.
- [186:44]
Pat McAfee
MC DC's calling a great game. This offense is rolling. It's really. The defense just can't stop right now. Yeah. And they're right down the middle of you guys. Yeah.
- [186:54]
Connor Rogers
I mean if they're calling SHS in minus 5 degree weather, we're going be calling him goops. If Jared Goff goes in there with the season on the line and plays an egg in negative 10 degree weather.
- [187:06]
Darius J. Butler
Gofski see the me up. I can see them.
- [187:08]
Connor Rogers
Yeah.
- [187:08]
Pat McAfee
Jared goops through another pick today. I mean there's.
- [187:13]
Connor Rogers
Yeah, exactly. Throw that in there.
- [187:14]
Pat McAfee
I hope that doesn't happen. I hope we just have great ball going forward. We expect that tonight. Let's make our picks before we get the hell out of here. AJ Miami traveling to Pittsburgh going to be 17 degrees tonight. Yes, sir. It's going to be beautiful. Football weather in acrisure. The lights are going to be bright. The insers are going to be in abundance in Tuatanga Valley. Loa leading a physical Miami Dolphins squad are three point underdogs taking on the Pittsburgh Steelers who still have everything in front of them whenever it comes to maybe going on a Super bowl magical run. AJ you and I pretty close this weekend. As we saw the field, I was nine and six. Great to be here. You were eight and seven. Great to see you continuing to see the field. Well. So dbut we will start with you to kind of set set the tone, set the trend. You obviously not with us on Friday so you're not a part of the picks graphic, but every Monday you kind of lead the way here. Do you like the Steelers favored by three at home or do you like your Miami Dolphins with 53% of the public bets traveling to a very cold Pittsburgh.
- [188:21]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, if you just look at the environment, the time of year, a team being around over 500, history will tell you the Dolphins will lose this game. But it's a brand new Dolphin Team since kind of mid season, since Week 8. They're right in the top of the National Football League when it comes to deploying six or more offensive linemen and they've been running the ball down people's throats. So I'm going with the Dolphins to definitely cover. I want to go actually. I'm just going to win. I got to win on the road. It's a big game for both ball clubs going to Miami to win.
- [188:47]
Pat McAfee
D butt says straight up, Miami Dolphins. I don't need the three. Let's go to 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys. Bubba Gumpino, Gumpy, you're fucking final thoughts as AJ And I make our picks?
- [188:58]
Tone
It's time to saddle up, boys. You got to kill the allegations. It's been too long. You got to win in the cold and you got to do it on Monday night. Here we go, boys.
- [189:10]
Pat McAfee
Here we go.
- [189:12]
Tone
Dolphins, here we go. Dolphins go to Super Bowl.
- [189:19]
Darius J. Butler
Here we go.
- [189:20]
Ty Schmidt
They don't have that.
- [189:21]
Pat McAfee
That might have been it. That right there, what you guys just did, legit that into microphones on this day might have been the thing that kind of changed everything that happens tonight. Tone, before AJ And I make our picks, how do you feel about what just happened right there? How do you feel about Robert Morris saying, yeah, we'll help you out? How do you feel about Yinzers potentially booing Renegade after the long day and long night primetime game? And how do you feel about the Miami Dolphins maybe being a more physical team? You guys being without TJ Watt at this stage?
- [189:51]
Tone
I'm gonna take those in order. Okay. I am not surprised at Gumpy and DBUT slid Dolphins in there for going to the Super Bowl. They are not the tougher team. You just can't be with that color. I am worried about some of the injuries for the Steelers tonight. Both of their left tackles are out. That's right. The starter and the backup are out. T.J. watt is out.
- [190:13]
Jason Myers
Out.
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Tone
The best corner is out also as well tonight for the Steelers. So a little worried about injuries, but Mike Thomas doesn't lose on Monday Night Football at home. Steelers don't lose on Monday Night Football at home. They got the color rush. They got the gold end zones. Aaron, 17 degrees.
- [190:26]
Pat McAfee
That's where he likes to live. Ben Roethlisberger.
- [190:29]
Ty Schmidt
Seven's in the house.
- [190:30]
Pat McAfee
Joey's in the building.
- [190:32]
Tone
Five's in the house. Yeah. It's gonna be a good night, AJ.
- [190:35]
Pat McAfee
With all that being said from both parties, potentially grabbing the terrible towel and spitting on it while singing the song. Song. For the Steelers.
- [190:42]
Tone
And Bobby Mo's a traitorous school that you should never go to.
- [190:46]
Pat McAfee
Oh, mama. Are Yinzer's booing tonight or not? AJ what do you like?
- [190:58]
AJ Hawk
I think if. If the Dolphins somehow come in there and they establish that they're the more physical football team, the Yinzers will absolutely boo this team out of acrisure. So I think because of that, the Steelers are going to be heavily, highly motivated, I guess I should say. And I want the Steelers minus three all night long.
- [191:13]
Pat McAfee
All right, I'll do the same. Ladies and gentlemen, that's overreaction Monday. We appreciate you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. We're so thankful that we get a chance to chat about sports. We're the luckiest and dumbest humans on earth. And the fact that you support us, we're eternally grateful for. We'll be back tomorrow after a big Monday night Football matchup in Pittsburgh. What will the storylines be? We shall see. The NFL never stops or sleeps. We appreciate it for that. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.
- [191:44]
Adam Schefter
Hi, there.
- [191:45]
Scotty Scheffler
Surprise.
- [191:46]
Pat McAfee
30 for 30 presents. Booyah. Can I get a witness from the congregation?
- [191:53]
AJ Hawk
You can't stop. Authenticity.
- [191:54]
Pat McAfee
Booyah. Stuart was exactly like you saw him on camera. Off camera. He dialed it up 10%. Can you imagine the impact of young black boys and girls looking at that going, I feel seen. He changed the culture. He changed sports stream. Booyah. Presented by Modelo right now on the ESPN app. The NBA is happening Christmas day. Five games, one unforgettable lineup.
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Darius J. Butler
That's what Christmas is all about.
- [192:25]
Pat McAfee
Buckets for breakfast, breakaways for dessert. It's the holiday tradition.
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Darius J. Butler
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Pat McAfee
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- [192:32]
AJ Hawk
The stars, they are going to be.
- [192:33]
Pat McAfee
Out the best gift. You don't even have to unwrap it.
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Darius J. Butler
We want to say Merry Christmas and happy New Year.
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Pat McAfee
NBA Christmas Day begins at noon eastern on ABC and espn.