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Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our holly, jolly, humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this Merry Christmas. Tuesday, December 23, 2025. This program begins now. Football is magical, and last night wasn't the greatest time. Watching the Indianapolis Colts defense not be able to stop the San Francisco 49ers offense as the San Francisco 49ers continue their road to maybe the number one overall seed in the NFC in a massive win in the loud house, beating the indianapol Colts. And I'll tell you what, boots on the ground, we're in the building. It was electrifying, the halftime show. Red Panda buried six bulls on top of her head as they tried to light her up in the middle of her backswing. Okay, so I will say the extreme pogo team from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, crushed it. The jugglers from Peru, Indiana, absolutely crushed it. And Red Panda crushed. Obviously, that's what she does. The drum line did their thing. It was a spectacular evening in Lucas Oil stadium. Anytime you have Red panda at the 50 with 75,000, sounded like maybe 25, 30,000 San Francisco 49ers fans as well. Everybody was at attention. That's only five bowls. She would go on to do six bowls. Obviously, it was a special time.
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Lights.
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I don't like that.
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Jeez.
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That was the halftime push league.
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Because there is a halftime ending time. I think the NFL indicates when it is. So you actually heard the MC in the stadium, the PA announcer come out and say, that's the half carnival. And it was like, no, it's not. We're all watching Red Panda right now about to hit the grand finale here. And Red Panda didn't have her normal music. It was a different remix, different songs. She wasn't on her normal platform. She was out in the middle of a turf field on top of a stage that was kind of just put on top of it. She had the lights go on in the middle of it. No music at all. Because I think she does do rhythm. Like, I think that is kind of her thing. No music at all. Warm ups back on the field, basically. And she delivers six for six up there.
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Yeah.
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I think Red Panda's throwing a fastball. And so Brock Purdy watching him do all night was insane because you don't really realize the size of Brock Purdy until you see him. He is not tall, okay? He is not tall at all. I would say what Brock Purdy's able to do is so much more impressive because of how he is built. He is built like an ox now. He is. He's thick. He's obviously an incredible athlete, but there are plenty of times where he can't see a damn thing. And he is just throwing it to a spot at a time. And every time seemed to be right on the money. I mean, the Juwan Jennings touchdown was right in front of our face. It appeared as if he was throwing that late and out of bounds instead. Perfect fingertip grab by Juwan Jennings, who's also a monster. I would like to say now he was playing against a guy wearing number 43 at corner.
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Okay.
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So no offense to him, but he had a long night. Our corner certainly had a long night, but I think a lot of corners are going to have problems with the way Brock Purdy is spinning it. Don't like the. It's Christmas week. We don't need to be doing actual grinching. Yeah, you're right. It was very smooth, too. Like, it was very perfectly. Yeah, it was good. Sell Juwan Jennings, he's bad about it for sure. But what I took away from last night, Brock Purdy, is remarkable. Like, obviously they paid him $200 million for a reason. And what that offense looks like with him at quarterback as opposed to anybody else is crazy. That I was even potentially leading into a conversation and maybe Mac Jones would be a quarterback for this team going forward. He's outrageous. George Kittle, seemingly unguardable. He had an ankle late. I texted with him afterwards, said, that's cool that you're just unguardable today. He saw you. He. I was like, don't you start, okay? You knew I was going to have to be there. Obviously, it's an Indianapolis Colts thing. I think we all assumed George Kittle is going to be okay. I think he walked off the field. He's an incredibly tough guy. Watching him block and also be wide open all the time. Crazy Christian McCaffrey. Does he not get tired? I don't know how this guy doesn't get tired. He's running on his coconut husk all over the place. They're giving him the ball all the time. And he seemingly never, ever tired. And he never celebrates. It's just like literally a workhorse like that. He is a robot, a machine. And then you talk about 44. This super genius Juszczyk, who's a fullback, he's all before every play. He's all over the place. And then it's right off his ass, whatever's happening. It's like Trent Williams. Yeah, right. This dude's 30 yards down the field. He's a 37 year old. It's like watching that offense, you. I think we forget in this particular space they can still be the number one seed in the nfc. They lose Fred and Bosa on the defensive side, a lot of us just say like, can't win. Salah's a genius. They got a defense that smothered Jonathan Taylor. I mean we weren't able to run at all. Sixteen carries, I think for 46 yards or the longest seven or something like that. That is not how we're going to win any games. But could have because Phil Rivers was out there spinning it. Phil Rivers was breaking down the defense, doing his check. So I think if you were to ask me going into a Monday Night Football game with the situation that we're in now, no Sauce Gardner, no Mooney, like what's going to be the downfall, you think tonight the easy answer would be the 44 year old guy who not. I don't know if I like what the Indiana Knights uniform was doing for Phil R. Sure. I don't think it would. He does look good. He does look fat. We saw him on sideline, I think.
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I thought he was a captain.
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Yeah, fat P8. Everybody was a captain. I don't know. I don't think I love the C on everybody's chest but I understand it is a cool jersey. Everybody should have it and it's the state of Indiana on the inside of the sea there. So it's a part of the design and everything like that.
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There it is.
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But like Phil Rivers last night, not only was he dealing and spinning and breaking down defense, they show him on the Jumbotron. He got massive. Thank you, I think for what he did in 2020 from all of us, literally, this is the first time he ever got a real chance to experience a Lucas Oil Stadium with fans, any Colts fans at all. They put him up on the Jumbotron and every single time it was like, hey, thank you Phil for doing what you're doing. And also what you. Whenever we were all trapped inside, watching from afar, he also got into it. Let's go. Let's go, baby. Doing it all. So the fact that we lost because we couldn't get a stop, I mean had no punts, no punts at all. We did have a turnover, which I guess is possible in the Brock Purdy offense, especially thrown over the middle with his size, that is the tiny disadvantage. But I think everything else that Brock Purdy does is elite. I mean it was just an elite operation watching him live in person. D butt your thoughts from watching it. Defense not able to Get a stop. Phil Rivers in the offense, I think manage special teams. Turnover made it a shootout. I think early for all of us. Can't have it. Your takeaway from last night?
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Yeah, defense, our defense was definitely the most disappointing. You talked about the injuries that we have at corner, but you know, everybody's dealing with injuries at week 16. But yeah, the San Francisco 49er offense, it was just a well oiled machine. Brock Purdy, it seemed like he was hitting, you know, where whatever he wanted looked like routes on air. So you talk about Shanahan's offense, just how comfortable Brock Purdy is in it. He can make all the throws and then when the throw is in there, pocket breaks down. He can break the pocket and make a throw as well. But he had matchups, he had matchups all over the place. Obviously, you know, not many linebackers in the NFL can guard. Christian McCaffrey one on one took advantage of that. George Kittle, you mentioned, if he didn't get hurt, he probably was on his way to a career day. Just like Brock Purdy was with five touchdown passes. So it was tough. They came out, Look, Phil came out, gave us a chance. First play of the game, he took a shot down the field and we're like, okay, I like that. You sent it a message earlier. Don't sit on everything, don't keep everything tight. And had Alec Pierce involved early. He had two touchdowns, offense showed up and tried once. Once again, the run game was smothered. Hats off to Philip Rivers. This is one of those things that people or us, we sit on the couch maybe a year, maybe two, maybe three years after, ah, maybe I can get back out there and do something. To see him doing this five years removed from the game at 44 years old is unbelievable. His family being in the suite, that was big, Sweet.
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Obviously it was unfortunate. Huge.
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You know, we got our ass kicked like we did. Man, this was a tough, tough watch in that second half.
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Phil Rivers also last person out of the locker room. He was in there with Jonathan Taylor. Obviously Jonathan Taylor has rough night. He was talking as an MVP earlier in the year. Not really as much now. Tyler Warren also not as big of a detriment as he was earlier in the season. Not for a lack of trying though. They were trying to feed him. Tyler Warren took like four massive shots. Huge. I think Tyler Warren's going to fall into the category of like Gronk because he's so big. People. You're, you're a lot of space for huge shots like Gronk. Used to take huge collisions and you know, he was so athletic and nobody really judged it, but he would be getting smacked and just continue to go. I think Tyler Warren's to fall into that with his career. I'm excited to see how that all goes because he obviously has a lot of potential and potential is a great word for this Niners team. I'm watching them and I'm like, not only are they a really good football team, like, oh yeah, they can do it.
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What about the defense?
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Yeah, it's like they can do what they did. Now granted, Phil Rivers had success.
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Yeah.
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So people are going to say guy that was on a couch for five years had success against your defense. You don't have Bosie, you don't have Warner. They're going to hold that against them. But remember Phil River, Seattle, also potentially the number one seed in the RC last week, comes down to a 56 yard field goal. It's like the guy can still spin it and he still understands what you're doing.
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He's boys in right places too.
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Yeah. Like there's things that he's going to be able to accomplish. So I think people that are just kind of saying Phil Rivers is ass cheek. So if he's having success against you, that doesn't mean you're good. It's like I think they were able to tighten down. Remember the thing about them was they give up the run. They give up the run. They give up the run. They were dominating us up front in the run game. I mean, Jonathan Taylor maybe earlier in the season would have been able to escape some of those things with maybe like a bounce out or something like that bounce off. But there was little to nothing. I mean, there was little to nothing for Jonathan Taylor. And then on the flip side, Christian McCaffrey, this dude sees a hole and it is canon actually. And he doesn't. He gets up and just like kicks his shoes, kicks his cleats to make sure they're tight still. And then he just walks right back to the huddle. It's not like, oh, I just had my longest run of the year, 24 yards, which he did last night. He had the longest run of his season at 24 yards or something like that late in the game. Here it is right here off the left. And he just doesn't even care, Just gets back in there. Hey, we're going to give you the ball 100 more times. Doesn't care, just gets back in there and he's healthy. He unbelievable to watch live.
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Yeah, it's Crazy what he does in the past game. I think he's 163 yards away from 1,000 yards receiving. He went over a thousand yards rushing. He'd be the first player ever with multiple seasons of both a thousand yards receiving and rushing. But they do, they have one of if not the most complete offense in the NFL. I think the big worry to what you guys were just talking about is with how complete some of the other teams are in the NFC on offense and defense. That's where you struggle. But I mean with the two games they have left, both at home, everyone's already said it this week. They can, they can just play home games all the way through the super bowl. And that is a huge possibility. But the other thing that impressed me with Brock Purdy, that was insane is it's almost as if he knows what his matchups are as well. Like whether it's zone or not. This one right here, like he knows, hey, Kittle's down there and he trusts his guy over whatever linebacker or safety or corner. Yeah. Are there. And that's almost even more impressive. Like sure he knows, knows his spots to throw to, but he also knows like yep, whoever's on my guy here, I feel like my guy's going to win.
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You know, you lose one sense, you gain another. The pest said it. John Leguizamo, he doesn't have the size. Okay. That some people have. So he has to have everything else at a very high level. Understanding a defense pre snap is certainly one of those things. Digesting it and also knowing what the best option is for the offense that you're about to run. Certainly a part of it. His command of the huddle too. I mean it's like Trent Williams, Postgate.
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That was his big takeaway, bro.
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You watch him. He's like. Because obviously Trent Williams, these dudes are all gigantic. Kittle fucking gigantic. CMC is a like an actual superhero. Bill Jennings, you mentioned all of them that are big. So Purdy in that huddle like where we're sitting at in, in the. Anytime he's thrown in a pocket, he cannot, he cannot see who's getting the ball. He's just assuming old buddy because of the pre snap read, because of what is supposed to happen where we've worked on so much. It's like watching him break it down. And I know the immediate comparison would be Drew Brees, but it's like Drew Brees had to be cerebral. Drew Brees had to have perfect timing. Drew Brees had to have all these things. Good finding of Windows, that's a talent that not everybody has up where he can throw through. Even taller quarterbacks struggle with that. If you can't get it past a D line, it's like Brock Purdy has to have super elite, all that shit, because he doesn't have the 6 foot 4 frame that some quarterbacks have to have, especially behind that offensive line that they have. But everything else watching, it's like this guy's special. Like this is a special talent. The moxie, bro, the bounce that he has in between plays, it's like he.
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Looked like a $50 million quarterback.
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Yes, he has.
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When you think about a quarterback that's making $50 million, that's what it looks like. And obviously, you know, him being small, you talk about these different quarterbacks having their different superpowers. His post snap and pre snap operation has been his superpower. He's been small his whole life. You know, all these guys that get to this level, whether it's Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, you know, Drew Brees, they've been small their whole, whole life, just like in other sports. So they've been able to maneuver and make it work. And he does. And the years prior when he was having these great years, everybody always tried to give someone else the credit. Hey, they got ihuk or they got this guy, they got that guy. And now with them, you know, guys in and out of the lineup and Brock Purdy still doing his thing, it's very, very impressive.
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Yeah. And we've heard like, you know, since he's come in the league, how good of a teammate he is, how much these guys respect him. But to your point, like over the last couple weeks since he came back from the injury and he's felt like he's fully healthy, I think we are starting to see a little bit more out of him, like after he got paid, he's not just, you know, he might still be that kind of mild mannered guy who went to Iowa State and doesn't like to be in the limelight. But like, you can tell he understands, like, this is my team, this is my team now. Like, and he's starting to kind of do some of the things that he maybe wasn't doing a couple years ago when it was kind of like, hey, he's just happy to be here. He's got all these weapons now. I think he understands that, like, hey, when I'm playing at my best, like, I am just as crucial to this offense as a guy like CMC or KD or any of these other Guys.
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Yeah. I mean, he. It was unbelievable. Yeah. Watching it live was outrageous. Now the immediate shot is the Colts defense is ass. And which, I mean, I. Once again, I think Brock Purdy and the Niners are going to do that. Two defenses, I. I think they are going to make teams look like ass. I think there's obviously going to be defenses that are going to play well against Brock Perry and there's going to be games where they're not clicking. But if they were clicking on all cylinders, which it felt like they were, yeah, CMC was going, George was going, Juszczyk was going, Brock was going, the offensive line was going. Now, granted, is that because the defense or is that because they were all ballin on a Monday night? Yeah, whatever the case. But the Colts could not get a stop to save their lives. I mean, that was. And it's an interesting thing because against Sam Darnold just a week ago against Seattle Seahawks, they weren't bad. No, they kept it very, very low. Walk off field goal. And that was without DeForest Buckner. We get the force Buckner back. This. We still don't have corners. Brock Purdy and Shanahan, I think knew that. I think they certainly knew that they could potentially get it whenever they want. If we can get CMC rolling as well, that'll be an insane process. But now the conversation got zero punts. Thomas Morstead, that guy and I got drafted in the same class. The hell that man. That man taught me how to punt right there. Thomas Morstead, the guy on the right there he is out of smu. Big brain guy. I met him at a kicking camp after my junior year and it was my first ever real kicking camp I ever went to. Connor Lee, kicker for Pitt. Friend of mine growing up from soccer and beadling and things like that. Sean Lee's older brother, he was like, hey, why don't you come out to this kicking camp I go to? And I was like, I don't do kicking camps. I'm not hanging out with a bunch of these people. Okay. That is not.
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Makes sense.
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Yeah. That is not what I'm trying to get into. That's not how I'm trying to spend my life. I don't know a lot of them, but I know that's not really my thing. I don't think he's like, come on, come on, cool people. He was right. Thank God I went out there. Bunch of cool people. Jamie Cole was the guy running the kicking camp. And on the first night, I as a young lad with a Very strong leg. Always just thought that I could do stuff that nobody else could do with the ball. I mean, in high school, I was kicking it on fields where NFL kickers were on and I was 10 yards behind them, booting it over their head. So it's like I've always had very, very strong leg here. Worked on it. Literally spent my entire childhood, most of my childhood, when I wasn't out doing stuff because I didn't play video games, because I had add, didn't watch movies or TV because Tim had control of the tv. Us, it wasn't great. And then I got into wrestling and things like that. So I literally just kick a soccer ball off the side of my house. Saw David beckham hit like 100 miles an hour in the World Cup. I'm like, that's sick. That'd be cool to be able to do. So I've always had a really strong leg. Really, really strong leg. Now granted, because of all that blew out my knees, probably, you know, you know, Rob Peter in the back end to pay Paul up there in the beginning, but I always had a strong leg. So I get to this kicking camp and I see on the other field some mule looking human doing stuff with a ball that I couldn't do punting wise. And I'm like, who the fuck is that thing over there? So I go over and meet him. Super nerd at smu. Okay. But like a tough, alpha nerdy dude who has legs that come up to here. Mom's, I believe, from England. Okay. So I don't think she wanted him to play football. He wanted to play football. So I think like punting position became the thing because he started kicking and like his entire life he has been just a punter, like a great punter while also pursuing other things. So he took me under his, his basic wing and we've hammered hundreds of beers together. I, I mean, you're talking hundreds of beers together. And he's, he's one of the main reasons why I ever had a punting career. Him alongside Jamie Cole and because this is potentially his last year, which is a convo. Last night, Jamie Cole and a big group from the Cole's kicking camp were there to watch him. They hung out. I got a chance to see him, take a picture with him. It was just a cool, like full circle type moment. And he punted zero times. Yeah.
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Which I saw him out there last night.
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Yeah, well, a lot of us, we would have saw him one time holding extra points. Yeah, he had a good warmup though. Great Warmup. I will say for how old he is. Okay. He had a 52 and a 51 last night. I think it warm ups. I was like, timing. And so was Brandt Boyer, our former special teams guys. They were special teams guy. So he's hitting the ball, like, just as good as he was 15, 16 years ago. So it was cool to watch, cool to meet up with him, but he doesn't give a damn. And yeah, people are saying, because he hasn't punted since November, he's doing this on a side. It's like standard operating procedure is doing drops on a silo. His legs, though, come all the way up to here. He is built like a punter. And that face mask is honestly unpunished.
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Incredible.
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Is that legal?
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Yeah. I mean, he is. Yeah. He's a dog, dude. He works out so hard. Like, he's like, very obsessed with working out.
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Still doing it.
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I never. We used to kick in the off seasons together and he'd be flipping tires to warm up. Okay. He'd be. I'd be rolling in there, maybe a little hungover, a tad high maybe, you know, depending upon what time it was and what we did the night before. I'm walking out onto the field. All right, let's see how this ball's turning over today. You know, he's flipping tires, taking pre workout over on the side, high knees, running sprints, jumping, doing the entire thing. And then it's like, oh, shit, he's trying to bury me right now. This guy is trying to bury me right now. So, like, even when he was doing those things, he made me better. So it's like, like, I love Thomas Morad. It was great to see him. He might not punt ever again with the way that offense is looking to be 100% clear. And yeah, last night was a special night in the lot house, but we're one in five now, Monday Night football games at home.
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Did anybody watch the other cast? Dan O.
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The nerd cast?
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Yeah, I did. I couldn't understand a word they were saying because they all just started yelling at each other. But Keecley, Keakley is incredible. He. He does know what the hell he's talking about. Every single play, it feels like. And you mentioned how AJ Watches the game as a linebacker and you asked him about it yesterday. Like, Keakley, sure, he watches it as a linebacker, but I do believe he has the ability rather to actually be playing middle linebacker while calling the football game. Yeah. This is the one thing from yesterday he called the pick six, which, you know, Is what it is.
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He said quick pass to the tight end, I believe right here.
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Yeah. Because there was Orlando. Call Rivers. Carl called Orlando, Orlando, Orlando. And Keith Le Bates was like, yeah, he's about to throw a hook. This should be a pick six. I mean, it's incredible what Kiklou is doing, but this is. It was a cool little alternate cast for sure.
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Yeah. And Sean Lee's company, alternative, Connor Lee's brother. Sean Lee's brother. Adrenaline is running the stats and the AI and the model behind it. And then you got Luke Kechley, also linebacker, so. And then you got Dano in there. Feels like they're trying to weaponize and utilize every technology that we have to inform people on what ball is. Here's Luke Keakley in the Oculus, by the way. And yes, exactly what you think is happening here with Luke Keechy is happening. They're going to do this. It's going to do this. As soon as I see this, I know this. It's like, I'm happy Luke's getting an opportunity to display this because this type of football brain type stuff is not normal and it's awesome to watch. Insert clip NFL films just put out from Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers and the Pittsburgh Steelers get a huge win over the Detroit Lions. Aaron Rodgers and Pittsburgh Steelers can have a home playoff game and potentially, hey, here we go. Steelers, here we go. Pittsburgh go to the Super Bowl. Here we go. That's what they're thinking, as they should. Huge win over the Detroit Lions. And now we're getting footage of Aaron Rodgers basically being the quarterback of, you know, not only the past, but certainly of today for the Pittsburgh Steelers in complete control of the situation. And everybody remembers Gainwell's touchdown from the game where he makes that insane catch, catch down the right sideline. Ball hits his forearm, bounces up, he catches it. Nobody touches him. So that was obviously a great play call by Artie Smith. Right. Well, watch how this thing actually comes together. This side, this side. We're going flat to the right. Right motion all the way out. Run and go all the way out. Rodgers off his back foot, throws it down the way. And look at Gainwell. And he scored.
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Thinks he has a touch.
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He catch it. He catch it.
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Excellent.
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He caught it.
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I mean, I. I don't think he's touched. I think this might be a touchdown, Jim. I mean, Gainwell thinks he has it. This could be a touchdown. Oh, my goodness.
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I told you this running back is.
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Like a wide receiver. So whenever you think about this type of Access obviously shot the NFL films and on inside the NFL now on X's Eclipse show. Good move. And this type of access is unbelievable. What did Aaron see? Why did that happen? Is it normal? Guys are just playing backyard football in the middle of the biggest moments, in the middle of the biggest games at the quarterback position.
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Yeah, you talk about biggest moments. This is right. This was the 2 minute right before the half. So 11 seconds I believe is left on the clock. And right now, as soon as he comes out of the huddle, if you pause it here, he sees D.J. reed over on the number three wide receiver. So he knows it's man to man coverage. I believe that's Muth up top to his right sees the linebacker on him as well. So he knows right now Kenne Gainwell has a one on one matchup with Anzalone down the field. So he just tells him, hey, go out here and run a go now. Right now it looks like split safety on defense. Post snap. Once the ball is snapped, it'll go to single high. So a post safety in the middle of the field. So knows once again I have a one on one on the outside and he just gets back there and rips it. Now you ask is it normal? I would say no. But when you have a quarterback that's been in the game for as long as he's been, I'd be interested to know where Artie Smith was actually when Aaron took his first snap as a starter three years in the league. But like when you have that type of relationship or even like Philip Rivers or Stafford, these guys that's been around the NFL so long, they have this type of freedom, I would assume to make these adjustments and calls. And we all know the play caller to quarterback, that communication goes out at 15 seconds on the clock. So everything after that is on the quarterback. So I just love seeing this, love hearing this mic'd up, seeing this actual act. And then even the part, hey, that's a touchdown, like he got up, he didn't get touched. So all of that Tomlin's reaction when he was like, touchdown, okay, great, he caught it. It was just all awesome.
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Yeah. I think the special part about it all is the fact that it works. But also Gainwell, he tells him to go to the flat first.
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Yes.
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And then without correcting or saying anything goes go, motion all the way out and run and go. Gainwell says, you got it. Yeah. There is all buy in. Dan Orlovsky broke down another play earlier from this game. Jaylen Warren's long pitch touchdown Basically there's a safety, if listen to Dan Orlovsky's breakdown of it, there's a safety that's certainly supposed to spill or fill in a gap over here, be a part of it. Aaron Rodgers sees that guy high knows that he's potentially supposed to take the pitch away and he decides to tell DK Metcalf, hey, actually run a bubble, dude, to get this safety the hell out of here. Right before the snap, he looks over at dk, gives him a hand signal to run a bubble, takes the safety out of the play. Then Jalen Warren has a wide open. It's like this dude, it's this guy versus the defense right now is what it feels like. And if you have Aaron Rodgers battling against a defense, I think the way he would view it, and he should for all these years, is like by the second half or fourth quarter, like, I'll figure it out. Like, I think that's why games are close with Aaron Rodgers. And then you Hear coach Mike McCarthy talk about like a lot of these games come down two minutes. There's nobody I really like against two men more than Aaron Rodgers. I mean, he knows what the defense is doing. So I think just like anything or anybody that's like super smart, he's calibrating all game and then he is like every play is the first 15 for him to see what you're doing and then once he's got you, it feels like they at least have. I've given him the freedom. Whatever you think works, let's go ahead and do that. And maybe this is the meetings that he was talking about earlier in the year. Maybe like in these meetings he's trying to tell him like, hey, a second and a half before the ball is snapped, I might see something. And I tell you this, I need you to know that and do that, okay? I don't care how much success you've had. I need you to do what we need to be on the same page. And the same page is when I say something, I need you to do it. And it feels like the Steelers have bought in completely.
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That's the biggest difference of like being a of part pro. Because on the college level you don't have a ton of this. I'm sure you have some of it. But when you get to the NFL and you get into these meetings and you prepare for games, like it's a back and forth conversation between the players and the coaches to be comfortable on the same page. It happens with quarterbacks, of course, but it happens with linebackers. Safety, scoring. I'm sure Luke Keakley had this same type of freedom on defense, you know, with Thomas Davis or other players that he's playing. Hey, I know this was called, but I see this. I see this formation. I may be looking at a split or looking at somebody's eyes that, hey, actually, you go, I'm going to drop, and you make those late adjustments. But this is the biggest move part and the biggest difference when people talk about being a pro is what. What's happening after that play is given from the coach to the players, and then they have the freedom to kind of massage it, to make it be perfect.
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But being a pro is all the work that takes.
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You got to have the trust.
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Yeah. Not a film to. To be able to call that. You got to know your go ahead.
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And that's. And that could be a big reason why the offense has kind of taken off in the last few weeks since Steeling has been in the starting lineup, since MVS has been in the starting lineup lineup. Those are the. Those are the veteran guys that are used to running or. Thielen's not used to playing with Aaron, but he's a veteran wide receiver. He knows what he's supposed to do. But since they've been in the lineup, it feels like Aaron's been a lot more comfortable on where his receivers are going to be.
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And allegedly, they've had their best weeks of practice over the last couple of weeks. That might just be. Literally, they were all buying in.
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They're going to need the Demon.
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Yeah, they're going to need the Demon, but they're also going to need Aaron to beat these defenses. Like, there's really good defenses on the horizon in this playoffs. I think that is a matter of effect as opposed to. To like one or two good defenses. It's like everybody that's going to be in the playoffs seemingly has one.
B
Well, and showing that on tape, like this week with the bubble, like, hey, go ahead, dk, run the bubble. And then, you know, we're going to toss it. I mean, next week he's probably going to throw it. You know, it's one of those things where now the defense has to prepare for the toss and the bubble. Screen, then let alone all the gain. Well, you know, stuff. Hey, when he motions out, he's probably going to go deep. Well, what happens if this time he. It's a. It's a stop and go or it's a. Or it's a curl or it's a slant. It's like the setting up also within the game is sweet, but from week to week, the setups are insane.
A
Yeah, Luke Keakley talked about that when he was on the show last week. He was like, whenever they're doing something, I'm thinking, why are they showing me that this early? What are they trying to do with it later? Luke Keakley, though, he's hosting a show right now, doing it. This is not like a normal thing that happens. It takes a lot of work and a very special talent in between the years to be able to get to this position. And I think we saw that at Phil Rivers last night. Now a man who's about to compete in the first ever Merry Christmas.
B
What the.
A
What the Merry Quizmas.
B
What is that?
A
Yeah, it's a special thing. We'll get into that in a second. But one of the competitors, one of the contestants is going to try to win $10,000 to charity. They're choosing a set of trivia questions that are all around ball, but certainly a good time. As soon as he walked into the building this morning, he said, I knew Phil Rivers calls by halftime, so he doesn't consider himself like a savant. He was basically just like, I guess he would be considered that. Actually, I don't think he would consider that. He said. But, boy, it was easy to pick up what he was doing. I mean, that was pretty genre based. And by halftime, I knew what he was doing. And so Lou Kinckley on the Statcast being like, Orlando. Yep, this is this. Phil, I think we're gonna have to change it. You know, I think we have to change things. But honestly, there's only certain ways that you can go about doing something. You know, like left and right can only be called a different way. Is it cities in different parts of the country? Is it different? Different musicians from different places? These are like. Once you catch the genre of the code words, it does become something that's like, okay, pretty usable five years ago. There's a chance, you know. Yeah, I figured you out. Some of these code words.
D
Sure.
A
Okay. We just need to go back. I've been a part of a brainstorm for new hand signals and code words before. It's awesome in there. I mean, it is a writer's room. They are.
H
Oh.
A
Oh. I could see how we. We could sell that as something, you know, like, dig, classic. Start with like you're digging, but then. Okay, what can we move off of this? What do you do afterwards? Well, you do this as well. And then actually you can kind of take that thing with your Left hand and then kind of sit on that thing, Right? Yeah. How do we sell this to everybody?
C
Go dig here.
A
Well, you can't do that actually anymore. You got don't want that 15 yard penalty. Wipe your nose.
D
Can't pick bugs or wipe your nose.
A
Yeah, and we like the kids that are watching. He's not there to kick hammers, Reno. Okay. And that's not gang affiliated.
C
No, that's him gang thing too. Slime.
A
Yeah. Well, the booger gang up there in Detroit. Yeah. They've been trying to flick those things all over the place. But you can't wipe your nose in any manner. Remember, that was a part of the bylaws of the unsportsmanlike conduct in.
D
Exactly.
A
The NFL thing because it is considered. It was caused f. Yep, yep.
D
Down there.
B
Important one more.
C
You know, the mo.
A
You know, speaking who knows the most, Ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Merry Christmas. Now, because of the scheduling and because of the holiday and what day of the week Christmas falls on, you know, some of our weekly visitors shifted days. We just so happen to have two people that we absolutely love in the Thunderdome at the same time. What's the best way to make content with two people? Boom. Have em battle. Boom. In what trivia, Ladies and gentlemen, we introduce Merry Quizmas.
B
Hell yeah.
A
There will be seven questions. Okay. For our two contestants, there will be a $10,000 donation to a charity of the winner's choice. There will be one double dad opportunity per contestant. They'll get one point per answer. But these points, you know, easy come, easy go. Sure, there will be handwritten fill in the blank type answers. There will be multiple lifelines that they could use. They could phone a friend of the program. Okay. They will facetime a friend of the program. We do not know who that'll be until the moment be a surprise for end of the program. They can ask the show. That's the rest of the boys that are up here. They can take a mulligan which is a putt on the green if they get a question wrong. And they can let's chat that which is get an answer, an overwhelming answer from the YouTube chat. Okay, so the YouTube chat obviously has a chance to maybe win somebody $10,000 to a charity of their choosing or lead them astray. These will be sports questions, football questions. Majority of the two contestants are obviously a fantastic duo. Introducing first, ladies and gentlemen, this man was a football coach for 47 years. He's a Super bowl champion, baby. And he's a man who has joined us Every single week this season on Tuesdays. Bringing the heat, bringing the stories. Bringing stories that you need to know, not just the stories that he wants to tell. Ladies and gentlemen, Touch Bruce. Harriet BA has brought a friend with him. I believe that is a. A little bit of a whiskey. He'll be the contestant on the Grinch's side. And joining us, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who obviously we love. A man who is as round as he is jolly. He's a man who signifies the holiday season as a whole. Because not only did he just get done celebrating Hanukkah, he's also about to celebrate the hell out of Christmas. Well, welcome to Quizmas, ladies and gentlemen. Super bowl championship champion, A.K. shipley. Whoa, is that booing? Tony, I don't know if we got any heat around here, but I do know that we have an incredible opportunity to showcase two fine gentlemen. How you doing, Ships?
F
Fantastic.
A
Fist bump. Fist bump. Thank you, Coach. How you doing? Good. Good to see you, coach. You look amazing. Happy holidays. Merry Christmas.
H
Happy holidays to everybody out there, baby.
A
Merry Christmas. How do you feel about trivia? Are you a good trivia guy? Especially football trivia or not?
H
No, not too bad. Not too bad. Especially the old stuff.
A
Yeah, well, 47 years in this game, you think you would get quite an advantage because maybe, you know, literally everybody that is going to have a. A question asked about him. But do you do trivia? Is this something you have ever done before?
H
I sit in a bar every now and then, watch people do it.
A
Yeah, there it is. Get banged up, maybe have some people ask you some questions about the sports ones. Now, you much younger, obviously than your opponent. How do you feel in your trivia abilities?
F
I feel good. I feel really good. My dad and I used to do this when I was a kid and I used to.
A
Oh, stand back.
F
We used to. We used go back and forth. It was mostly Pittsburgh Steelers trivia. But I feel pretty good about this.
A
I don't know how many Pittsburgh Steelers questions are in this particular. We need to get them a dry erase board and a marker for each of them. Let me go ahead and do that right now for the boys. Certainly should have had those as you came out. That's 100% on the merry Christmas production staff, myself included. Would you like the one with the. Yep, go ahead and grab it. Yep. There we go. Perfect. Here we go.
B
Oh, good board.
A
All right, you guys got a good board. That is Connor's board. That is Ty's board. I don't know if that'll bring you Any luck or not. So $10,000 charity of your choosing. Each question will be worth a point. And I'm allowed to take away points if I don't like the way you guys do what you do. Don't let the other person see your answers. Don't be dipshits. Let's get to this thing. First question here for merry Quizmas. By regular season winning percentage, which active NFL franchise owns the worst record of all time? Boys, the clock will start now. Obviously don't be looking at each other. Worst team in the NFL by winning percentage in the regular season. Do you guys think you know.
D
Yeah, I have an idea.
A
Okay. Did you guys read the answers before the show?
B
No.
H
No.
B
I knew before. No.
A
Are both answers in? I see BA has completed his aq.
D
Has no idea.
A
Shaking in his boots. Okay, show your answers, boys. Same answers.
F
Really?
A
These two actually, actually played. And you can show your answer. You can show your answer. These two actually played for this team and coach for this team.
H
Wow.
A
That is actually the wrong answer. It's the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Not good. Yeah, I thought the Cardinals being the.
H
Oldest franchises in the league, they might have them by a few years.
A
Okay. And you're super bowl champion for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I guess they've been asked for a long time. Aq.
B
Yeah.
F
That's crazy. I went with the Cardinals because I saw the stat the other week where, you know, Carson Palmer's the winningest all time quarterback and he was only there for a couple years, so I just figured. Figured a lot of losses.
A
Yeah, well, 400% down there in Tampa Bay. Geez Louise. Get back to it. You. You really did the Lord's work winning a Super bowl down there. Congratulations to you, coach. Ba. And only two years, one Tom Brady and one AQ Shipley. That's all it takes, right? Question two of Quizmas here, boys. Go ahead and erase your answers. The Bills are one of two teams that reach the super bowl four times without winning any. Which is the other? This feels like this one's in BA's bag, con man.
B
Yeah. This one also based on AQ's look after reading that question. Don't feel too good about Shipley so far.
A
AQ Shipley told us him and his dad used to do trivia about Pittsburgh Steelers in sports back in the day. Feels like these first two questions from Hembo have certainly stumped the stump built man. D Butts, what are your thoughts on aq? Seemingly not having a clue.
C
AQ should notice it. This is the easy one.
B
Yeah, I say easy Let me see.
A
What you have here. Okay. Let me see what you. Come on, K. No answer yet still.
B
How much time?
F
I would like to phone a friend of the program.
A
Okay, okay, okay, okay. We have our first lifeline.
D
Thank you.
A
Shipley is utilizing his phoning the friend of the program. We will. We are dialing right now. Hopefully, person will answer now. You never know. This is the friend of the program. What are you expecting from this person that maybe you don't have right now?
F
An answer. I'm hoping this guy has an answer.
A
Because I don't have any. You have no clue. Do you have it whittled down to a few? Like, when this person pops up, will you say, hey, I think it's this, this, and this. Are you completely clueless right now?
F
No, I got it down to three.
A
Three, Three.
B
Jeez.
H
Okay.
A
Ladies and gentlemen, the friend of the program who has been phoned, who might have an answer, but maybe not. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. Dan Orlovsky family. Merry quiz, Huskies. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Hey. Hey. How are you? We're driving with kids. Okay. Daniel, can you pull over? Can you pull over? I will pull over.
D
Sure.
A
Thank you. You got the whole family. You got a starting seven in here.
B
What are we doing?
A
It's supposed to be having a merry time, not a scary time. It's not scary. Placemas. Dano. That kid's not wearing a seatbelt. Put your seat belts on their own side. Okay? They're not driving. All right, all right. You're good, Dano, great. Hey, great work on the Nerdcast last night. We watched Post. We appreciate what you did there. Aq, Shipley is phoning you because, boy, he has no idea it's the second question. Dan Orlovsky. Okay. Okay. Aq, any words of encouragement to Dana before he sees the question here?
B
Yeah.
F
Dan, I need you here. I need you. I got nothing. I think. I think I maybe have it, but I'm really leaning on you right now.
A
And Ba got his answer in quick. I mean, Ba gave his answer within the first. First 10 seconds of the question being asked. Here's the question, Dano, as we put it back up. The Bills are one of two teams that reached the super bowl four times without winning any, which is the other team to do as such. Would you like to hear AQ who thinks he's whittled it down to his final three, or would you like to go about it alone, Dan? No, I'm a team guy, so give me your three. I think I have the team, but.
F
Give me your three.
H
My.
F
So I got it down to one. This is what I think. I think it's first the Vikings, but.
A
I think it's the Vikings as well. Okay, is this final answer, Dano? The Minnesota Vikings.
F
It's the Minnesota Vikings.
A
Why do you think that? Because I just remembered they had, like, really good teams.
F
Bud Grant.
A
I'm not old enough to, like, remember.
F
It, but I know they haven't won.
A
One, and I think they had a.
F
Bunch of really good teams in the past.
A
Okay, so aq, you agree with them?
F
That's my guess.
A
Ladies and gentlemen, the ant answer to this question is the Minnesota Vikings.
C
Wow.
A
Congratulations to both of you for getting the answer right. Dano, thank you for coming through for aq. He has a final word for you here.
F
Thank you, Dan.
B
I needed that.
F
We talked before the show. You came through for me. I really appreciate that.
A
That's what teammates do. That's what teammates do. That's a good teammate, Dan. And remember, the only reason why EQ's doing TV is because you tried to break down offensive line stuff a few years back, and he got in enraged by it. Now you guys are working together for charity.
C
Yep.
A
It seems I could thank you from both ends.
F
Hey, sometimes there's disagreements on the football field. You eventually come together. We worked through it, and all of a sudden now, sudden, we're the smartest people on tv.
B
No big deal.
A
All right. Okay. Thanks, dad.
H
Miracle.
A
Yeah, it was a Quizmas miracle.
B
Thank you, Dan.
A
Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. Or loveskis. All right, let's put our seatbelts on. Jeez.
E
Why does he always do that?
C
You said it talked before the show.
A
Yeah, yeah, Take a half point away.
F
No, we were talking about other stuff. We weren't talking about this.
A
We're talking about offensive line play, each other.
F
I don't understand what's happening.
A
That's. Do you know who you're calling in front of the program? Do you know?
H
I have a. I have a clue.
A
All right, take a half point off him. Give his half point away from him as well. He's a half point to a half.
H
Lose him.
A
Oh, yeah, but we don't like this. You guys are cooking. Did he talk to him? This gives me a surprise. Did he talk to him? Like there should be some speed to the. No, it was.
C
You did have speed.
A
We're talking about different things. You're not supposed to be surprised by the friends of the program. Now we got pre game calls. I don't love that. It's a half point to half point.
C
Watch it.
A
Third question here for Quizmas. Nobody has rushed for 2,000 yards in a season twice. Who is the only player who with two 1900 yard seasons? You guys will have a little bit of time here to try to figure out the answer. Darius Butler, do you know or have an inkling on who this could be? Do you think it's old school or new school guy?
C
Old school.
A
Okay, tone your thoughts.
E
I think old school as well. I have a guess, but not 100% sure.
A
Toxic table.
D
I'm gonna say more of a new school dude.
B
Yeah, me too. And both went pretty quickly. So a. So I'm thinking new school dude as well.
A
Okay, ladies and gentlemen, first time we've had different answers. Here we go. Both men obviously were able to get an answer, which is good news. Proud of you guys. Proud of you guys. Coming to a conclusion, making a decision, you know, when the eyes are upon you. That's a big part of big boy stuff in Merry Christmas. Why don't you both go ahead and turn around your answers. Bruce Arian says OJ The Jew Simpson.
E
Okay.
A
And AQ Shipley says Derrick Henry. So we got an old school.
D
Sure.
A
And new school. What's the right answer? It is Derek Henry. How'd you know aq?
F
Well, I just remember. I think it was last year. He ran for over it and I remember he had a big season down in Tennessee. You know, sometimes I pay attention to the run game. This is what I do.
A
Oh yeah. It feels like this was kind of skewed towards aq. You went with the Juice. Obviously. Old school on the field guy on. Good player, I guess untackled.
B
Both really.
D
Yeah.
A
A guy. He was. He was a real.
C
People forget.
A
Great at football.
H
Unbelievable. I mean, I did have the 2000 yard season, I do believe, but my next one was going to be Barry and it's like O.J. or Barry. I went with O.J.
A
Yeah. You just didn't want to give a new school guy the answer.
H
No. No way.
A
Okay, there is a mulligan for another shot. It would have to be beforehand. Yeah, yeah. Because we already gave the answer.
B
Mulligan.
A
Yikes. We'll figure out that. That one out. You. You guys will have to say you would like to take a mulligan if it's wrong before we give the right answer. We go going forward. New rules, new game. Congratulations, you're in the lead 1 1/2 to a half. Let's go to the next question, shall we? Here on Merry Quizmas. $10,000 to a charity of their choosing. Which stadium has hosted the most Super Bowls. And if you get this wrong, Would you like a mulligan? You can only do that one time. You got to do that before. Before we give you the right answer. So it's like 100 on you guys. Seems like they're in deep thought. Do you have a lean up there, Ty Schmidt?
D
I do have a lean.
A
And what is that coming from? Just watching Super Bowls and reminding yourselves of what place is hosting you?
D
Yeah, kind of. You know, we've done this for a couple years now and, you know, the more things change, the more they tend to stay the same. We do kind of see the same cities hosting this year after year.
A
Okay. I like that. The more things change, the more more they stay the same. That's kind of life, isn't it? Aq, as we evolve.
D
AQ is wrong.
A
I'm not saying that.
B
Or is it?
A
I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that.
F
I like a mulligan. If this is wrong.
C
Okay. Probably a good move.
A
Okay. You are wrong. Go ahead, do the mulligan. Okay, dude, don't show your answer. So, ladies and gentlemen, AQ gets a mulligan. His answer was Miami. The Hard Rock stadium's been around for like three years. The right. Right answer. All you. All you have to do here, aq is you can do city. City would be the right answer as well. Okay.
B
Miami. Also wrong.
A
Yeah, Miami's not the right answer. Yeah. So if it wasn't just a stadium.
C
Change, Shout out Joe Robbie Stadium, you.
A
Will make one putt for another chance at an answer. Oh, interesting. Yeah, see, that's not how this goes. I like minus one and a half points. Minus one and a half points. No, you gotta back it up. Back it. You gotta. There's a standard putt in this office. It's every single time it's from the same spot.
C
I delete this, man.
D
I like that move.
B
Yeah, it's good move.
A
Yeah, I don't want to delete because I think that was good. And I appreciate that you care that you're trying to get the right answer. AQ Shibley will have to bury a seven foot putt here. I just saw stats. I believe that's like 40 make rate at a PGA tour or something like that. If he's able to bury this putt with the lab putter, he will get a chance to give another answer. His first answer to which stadium is hosted the most Super Bowls. My was incorrect. We do not know what BA's answer is. Yet he has not decided for the mulligan option. This is AQ's first and only attempt for a mulligan. Oh, hit it. And. What a putt by AQ Shipley. I'll tell you what, you were dancing with maybe destruction there, doing the little two foot thing. Connor was calling for you to get your entire points wiped out. You've done a of lot of work. I don't necessarily love that you can now give a second answer. That would be the stadium or city that has hosted the most Super Bowls in the Super Bowls history. So it's not Miami. We know that. No, that is not what BA's answer is.
B
Okay.
C
It's a good one to have off the list.
A
Yeah, it is a good one. What's that, buddy?
H
Putter's gone.
E
He said it's kind of his.
A
Putter's gone. So where is your butter? Your butter's on up there, isn't it?
H
I don't see it.
A
I think that's the one AQ just used.
C
Hurry up.
B
I know it's back there. It's back there.
A
It's back there. It's h. I see it.
B
I see it.
A
Yeah, you see Bottom of the pond.
C
Whiskey. Okay. At whiskey.
A
Okay. This is like NFL officials will get in that in the next hour right now. Okay. Two different answers.
B
Okay.
A
Love it. AQ on his second answer after hitting them all again, boys, what are your answers? AQ has Los Angeles. BA has New Orleans. The right answers is super dope for coach ba. You just assumed that throughout the history la, the city of stars would have hosted it. Yeah.
F
I just think in warm weather cities and obviously two host teams. Right.
A
Had have been lost. You will not lose a point for your answer. But I do appreciate the fact that you had a pretty good answer. Coach, how'd you know it was New Orleans?
H
Been there too many times when the lights went out.
A
Oh, Beyonce.
H
No. Superdome, Super Bowl, Baltimore, San Francisco. When the lights went out. Was that.
A
That was. Yeah. Beyonce. She shut the whole place down. Yeah, yeah. And then Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco. They did a slow safety at the end of that game.
H
I think it was awesome game. And San Francisco had a great chance with a little fade in the end zone. They got tipped and intercepted.
A
Joe Flacco from. I remember for that. So super bowl was talking on the sideline. He was miked up shout to NFL films. And he said something along the lines during the long after his slow safety return. He said, if this guy's running down this sideline, I'M going to tackle him. Like what are they going to do? Because they would win the super bowl if not. He's like, I'm going to. If we were to just tackle him right here, what would be the penalty?
C
Like that.
A
I do wonder, I do wonder what would have happened there. But I like that Joe Flacco was willing to go for it. The current score, one and a half points.
D
Wow.
A
I like you to one and a half points. There's only one double don option. You would have to announce it before the next question. We are going to question four of seven. You would like to double down. Ladies and gentlemen. We got a double down. Yes, he is. Yes he is. Coach BA has decided to utilize the double down option first here. Aq, you're boring. You made your mulligan putt. Still got it wrong. A double down is the most electrifying part of Quizmas. All you have to do here is get this quarter question right. You don't have to hide your answer because AQ will not be asking and your one and a half points will become three points. Maybe three and a half. Just because we add a half point because we like that. You were the first to do the double down. Why now and why not later on the double D?
H
You go for the throat early.
A
I like that. I love that.
I
No. Risky.
A
No. Oh my gosh. Watch your throat cuz. The double DA question is this. Pa which Penn State legend is the all time leading rusher in super bowl history? Penn State running back is what you would assume the answer is. AQ writing down an answer even though he's not a part of this question. He went to Penn State. Do you at the toxic table have an idea?
B
Oh yeah, I'd like to steal.
A
Shut up.
C
Is that a rule? Good question. Is that a rule?
A
Take that point away. That is dancing. You are dancing. He's a thief. This is quiz man. You can't steal a double D. Gez, you wrench should be on this side. BA do you want to put the last name on there too? Yeah, yeah, I think you should. I think you should. I know, I know, I know. But maybe you know, you know more humans under the age. Ladies and gentlemen, this guy BA Doubt this guy has a damned statue at the airport. Yes, he does. It is. Is Franco. 354 yards. He stuck on her throat with a.
D
Double D. AQ's dead.
A
BA now has three. And I don't like that the back room automatically gave you the extra half point. They did. But I like that they said we should give you the extra half point because you're the first to use a double down.
F
Wow.
A
Three and a half to one and a half. That was a nick moral decision. They dunked in his face. So anyway, said step on his throat. I think we all kind of like that.
B
Try to steal it.
A
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
E
He went alumni section on an alumni of the school.
A
The question was about ba. Way to go DD there on aq, bro. How's it feeling? Fresh off the first ever DD in Quizmas.
H
Like I made those four putts that day.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Good comparison.
B
Hasn't even used the special yet. This guy's got two in the chamber already.
A
Yeah, it's a little bit worried. And now you're losing a lot of. Okay, let's go to the next question, shall we? Question four of Quizmas for the boys. Who is the first quarterback in NFL history to throw 40 touchdowns in a season three times now he's quarterback guru here. Bruce Arians. He's guy who had a lot of quarterbacks touch his. His hind end against snap. Obviously lover of the game. D. Butch, do you have a couple obviously that you're thinking about?
C
Yeah, I got a couple for sure. But this is. This is tough. The first. This is tough.
A
We have the same answer.
C
Okay.
A
Oh, we have the same answer from both sides. AQ Shipley says Dan Marino. Bruce Aran says Dan Marino. Dan Marino, Pittsburgh legend who's becoming one right in front of our eyes. Oh, Ladies and gentlemen, Aaron Rodgers is the answer.
H
Wow.
A
2011, 2016, 2020. You're both wrong. Let's go to question five. Advisor. What's that?
F
Can I double down?
A
Absolutely. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ has doubled down. Now, Ty screamed last time that he's going to double down, but he understands that we're up against it for this hard out at the end. So the double down. You're looking to maybe tie this thing up here as we go to question five? I am.
F
I think I'm going to use every lifeline on this exact one.
C
I'm here.
F
I'm going to go ask the show. I'm going to chat. I'm going to ask. Chat that I'm going to do it all.
B
Can you do that?
A
I don't know if that's legal. Okay, let's go to the double dawn question here for AQ Shipley, who's sitting at one and a half points, who is the only active player named to the Pro bowl more than 10 times. AQ's on it.
B
I mean, this is the easiest double D question I've ever seen.
A
I'll tell you what, this is an easier question than the last double D question. But I. We tried to play for the guest.
D
Sure.
A
You know, like old school question.
B
Sure.
F
I like that.
D
Potential new school dude.
F
I'd like that. Ask the show.
A
Another lifeline out of aq. Who's using multiple lifelines on one particular thing, which I appreciate and respect. Who would you like to ask?
F
Connor. I'm asking Connor.
D
Wasting value.
B
Okay. Okay. Do I say what I think it is? Yeah, he played last night.
D
Yep.
B
He plays offensive line.
D
Yeah.
F
It's kind of what I thought. Trent Williams.
H
It is.
A
Okay. Is the right answer. Trent what? Williams. Yes. Great job. You had something else written down. He had Trent and then he went back. He went to Aaron Rodgers. Now he's back to Trent Williams. He needed it. We're at three and a half to three. Okay, BA still in the lead. Let's get to the fifth question. I do believe both double dons in the can. I like that. We DD across the board. The fifth question. Which active college football coach has produced the most first round NFL draft draft picks? Boys, tick, tick, tick here. Actual cake question.
C
Yeah.
A
Which active college football coach has produced the most first round NFL draft picks? This does feel like a cake answer.
C
Feels like it.
B
Oh, well, well, well.
A
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
C
Too late.
A
Whoa.
B
I mean.
A
You can still ask the chat. You can still ask the chat, right?
F
Yeah, I'll ask the chat.
A
Okay, let's chat that now. The chat is 20 seconds behind. We did not think about being up against the clock like this.
C
Let me give you some names. I got the chat pulled up.
A
Yep. Who's the chat?
C
What's the chat saying? Kirby. They're saying Kiff and they're saying Kirby, Kiffin, Dabo are the main answers I'm seeing. Oh, I'm gonna go see a lot of Kirby.
F
Yeah, I'm gonna go Kirby.
A
Okay, ba what's your answer? Kirby Smart. AQ in the YouTube chat went with Kirby Smart. The right answer is Kirby Smart. That was a layup.
H
That was so easy, man.
A
That's like riding a bike.
F
Dabo made me think hard right there.
A
He's gotta be take a half point away. First answer. All right, forty and a half to four here. How many minutes do we have left in the show? 122. Okay, here we go. Let's go to the. This is the sixth and final question of Quizmas. $10,000 to a charity of your choosing is on the line. Jerry Rice caught the most 50 yard touchdowns in NFL history with 36. Randy Moss caught 28 which ranks third. Who ranks second? Oh most 50 yard touchdowns in the NFL history history 36. Randy Moss caught 28 who ranks third?
D
AQ's got no idea.
B
No chance.
C
Ranked second.
A
Second. Sorry, sorry. Who's above Randy Moss by one? By the way, another cake one.
C
Here we go.
A
This is for all the marbles.
B
Here we go.
C
Be fast.
A
This is for all the marbles. Ladies and gentlemen, B.A. your answer is Ask the panel. I like that he's using one of his lifelines. Who do you who would you like to ask?
H
Ty?
D
I think it's to personally.
H
Okay.
A
Final answer.
B
Sure.
A
You're both wrong. BA wins $10,000 to BA's charity of choosing Merry Christmas. We'll see you next time hour.
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A
Football. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. The voice you just heard, the cadence you just heard, is our first ever Merry Christmas champion. $10,000 will be donated to a charity of his choice. 47 years in the football world as a coach. Super bowl champion, Quizmas championship champion, Bruce Aran. Congratulations, B.A. what's the charity we're going to be sending that to?
H
AR Family Foundation.
A
Okay. And once again, if you can remind folks what Aran's family we support.
H
CASA Court Guardian at Litem, the court of Port of Special advocates for the children and the court system and foster care.
A
Yeah, well, it's an amazing charity. You've obviously done wonderful things alongside your wife and your entire family. Congratulations on winning our first ever Quizmas. Very Merry Christmas to you. And a very scary quiz for 12 year NFL vet, Super bowl champion AQ Shipley. You're currently the only person I know completely defeated at Quizmas. But I want to let you know I thought you did a good job out there. I appreciate that you kept things active. You know, there was a lot of bending of the rules that you were attempting to do, which we should expect and appreciate at the same time.
F
Well, I've learned from you guys when I come in here at U Ball and there's different rules every week, so.
A
Okay. All right. Nine year NFL vet, Darius J. Baller.
C
Same rules all time.
A
It has been. This guy just sucks at the game, so.
C
You said it.
A
I mean, anytime. Congrats, champ.
C
Hey, he said it. I mean, I mean, you see what the damn trophy is though.
A
Yeah. Trophy right now, you know, talks to tables here at Boss Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Con man. Good to see you, brother. What are your thoughts on Quizmas?
B
I think it's a hit. I. I'm actually kind of pissed that it's called Merry Christmas because I won't play next week.
A
Okay. We'll certainly come up with a new name.
B
Okay, perfect.
A
Certainly figure that out. The double dawn was a little early. Tied.
D
It was, you know, but hey, like BA said, when you have that, the opportunity to step on someone's throat and really end it, you do that. And that's exactly what BA did with the double down. AQ had no chance to win after that.
A
He ends up winning by half a point. And AQ was dancing with losing half a point all the time. All his little attitude and sass. Remember he took the mulligan putt for another answer up to about 2 inches. It's like, hey, don't disrespect Quizmas.
B
Which he did.
A
Okay. You disrespect Quizmas, the Quizmas gods come back to get you. And they did. Congrats to Coach BA Once again, congrats also to the man. We got a Chance to catch up with this morning. His team has won a college football playoff game at home. What's next? We chat with a guy out there in Eugene, Oregon earlier today, ladies and gentlemen. Joining us now is a man who has got a chance to showcase a beautiful part of their country to me and many others. Because getting a chance to travel out to where he coaches is something that nobody would ever really sign up for. But then once you do it, you think to yourself, man, I can't wait to get back here. Here happens to be one of the greatest sports capitals on the entire planet Earth. It is not only the track home where all of our fast people go and the home of Nike, obviously, which has transcended the entire globe for what it's able to do to our feet, but it also has a football team that is going to be dominant for seemingly ever. They win their first round of the playoff game, they end up with their third stringers in the game, and afterwards the coach is pissed off by the final score. That is what this type of guy is. Intense, Lord. Loyal, loving and a damn good football coach. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Oregon Ducks who got the Texas Tech Red Raiders in the next round, Coach Dan Lanning. Yeah, Coach. How you doing, man?
H
Merry Christmas.
A
Moist. How we doing? Hey, Merry Christmas. We got fire back here. I don't know if you see it.
G
I like the. I like the background.
I
It looks good, man.
A
Do you know, put me in the mood. Do you know it's Christmas, like, because you're kind of in the middle of it.
H
I've heard it's coming.
G
Yeah, yeah, I've heard it's coming. No, I'm excited about it. I mean, we're not really. Absolutely got to celebrate Christmas. We're kind of locked in over here.
A
Yeah, I think football calendar has kind of changed the way I view holidays. You know, Thanksgiving, yes, certainly a good time when I was a kid growing up with the family, going to eat with the extended family. Then you get into football. It's like Thanksgiving, actually. Big football day. Okay, Christmas, well, we're hoping it's meaningful. Football, New Year's, well, that's when we would like to be playing. So football kind of changes what life is like around this holiday season. But let's talk about the holiday season that is right now for your team. The college football playoffs. First home playoff game in Austin in its history. I heard the speech that you gave to the boys after your practice game a week beforehand where you said, hey, first ever playoff game in Austin. And you Guys get to be a part of it. And then whenever you take that field, do you realize the gravity of the moment? Are you trying to minimize that shit on game day for the team or how did you kind of address the boys on, on the magnitude of the situation and how many great players have been through Oregon, but these are the ones that get a college football playoff game at Austin for the first time ever?
G
Yeah, it's weird in a way because I think we all recognize how different the situation is and how unique the opportunity is that we have. But as a coach, part of you is fighting to make them say, hey, we've done this before. We're replicating something we've already done. We're experiencing something we've already experienced. So I think you want to recognize in the moment how special it is, but then you want to remind them the reason you got here is because you were consistent and you did what you're supposed to do over and over and over again. And that's how we're going to replicate it again and have an opportunity to keep moving.
A
Is that what you think is your team superpower, the ability to be consistent or what do you love about this year's Oregon Ducks team the most?
G
I think our superpower is our love for our teammates, you know, and I think our superpower is the amount of guys that make an impact on this team. You know, I think strength in numbers has really been a superpower for us. Us, we've, we've been down players and then we've had players available. We've had, you know, guys that you didn't expect to make an impact, making huge impacts. So I think our really, our superpower is the strength of numbers and the buy in from our players.
A
I think it's been fun to watch your team all season. We've been lucky to be able to do that. Obviously, the Oregon Ducks are always going to be in prominent college football convo. Last year you guys become the Big Ten champs. Your first year in the Big Ten, then you have what, a month and a half, half off and then you get to the Rose bowl and you have a buzzsaw of an Ohio State team that obviously comes off the Michigan game, kicks the out of Tennessee at home, then they come in a Rose Bowl. It's like they felt like they were hotter, if that makes sense. This year you play in the first round as opposed to having the buy. How different is it and what do you like or hate about it all?
G
Well, I certainly like not having the break. You know, personally you know, I think the playoffs should be played like every other sport does the playoffs.
D
Right.
G
Like high school football does the playoffs. Like, like, like the NFL does the playoffs, like FCS football does the playoffs. You'll play your game a week after the regular season, play the next game the week after. I think you should have home games all the way up until the national championship game for the higher seated team. But, you know, it is what it is, so I'm glad we got the opportunity to play. I think it's helped maintain that routine a little bit more for our players, which is great. But I'd certainly love to see some changes in the future where we can get a little bit more consistent approach.
A
I don't want to go back to last year. Okay, let's go back to last year. Here we go. That Rose bowl game afterwards, obviously we were there. I mean, that was from beginning to end. It felt like they were going. You never got going. Is there anything that you looked at your team or preparation for the playoffs this year in the off season that maybe you thought if we would have done this differently or maybe if we do this. Or do you think it was just the amount of breakdown that you had versus a hot football team? Like, have you coached differently this year for your team to be better in the long haul? Like, did anything change from last year's Rose bowl game and playoff game in the off season on how you address the team this year for the most important games of the season?
G
Yeah, I think, you know, certainly a couple things changed. Changed. Ultimately we stopped worrying about the next opponent and we focused a little bit more on ourselves early on. We did the mock game this year to kind of maintain that. That routine for our players. That was something we didn't do last year. And again, it's a little bit different because we're playing a little bit earlier, but there's some growth moments within that game. And I think there's also the respect and the ability to honor the fact that Ohio State was playing some really good football right there. Let's focus on how we can play really good football.
A
I love that. I think you're doing that now. You weren't exactly thrilled. It sounded like, you know, with the way everything kind of ended that game. Is that good news for you, coaching the team leading into this next round, that it wasn't just an absolute slaughtering and it did end up getting a little bit closer than I think a lot of people thought it was going to be. Like, how do you view how that game started and Then how that game ended and then how you carry that into the next one.
G
Well, I think it eliminates some licency and there's an opportunity for growth for us for sure. If you ask me, how do I want to play? I want to play great every time we touch the field. So we did that at moments. We didn't do that the entire entire game. So there's. There's going to be practice here this morning and we'll go attack it.
A
Did you put the. Did you have guys not playing for a little bit and then put them back on the field? Did I see that?
G
Yeah, we switched some guys there at the end for sure. You know, I think there's a standard, there's a level of play, you know, but we used. Yeah, we used a couple different groups and we threw some guys back in there to go get a stop and they didn't. So I think that's an opportunity for us to grow.
A
That's awesome. Good for you, by the way. Get a huge win. Win by multiple scores and immediately afterwards. I don't like what I just saw at all. And the whole team feels that, you know, the whole team knows that going into next week now or next game now, you have a very good team that we have gotten a chance to see and follow this year. Coming up next, D. Bud has a question.
C
Yeah, I know the players love that. Probably has some tape already. Untaped, shoulder pad probably unclipped. But what's the challenge in this next round? The biggest challenge facing this Texas Tech offense?
G
Yeah, I think it's the whole team. It's a complete team, but offensively they're really big at wideout outside. They've got a great run game. You know, both the run games do an unbelievable job. Our running backs do an unbelievable job. You know, their quarterback is a guy that can deliver it all over the field as well. And it sounds like he's really healthy, which is, you know, that's great for them and their team. We can see him at full strength. Their tight ends catch the ball, so I think they got weapons across the field. And the biggest piece is, you know, how they create explosive plays.
A
Hey, I've been all the way in Eugene, and it's a beautiful place you guys are playing. I think the first. Go ahead, con man.
B
Yeah, coach. Probably easier to fly to Japan than it is to the Orange bowl from Oregon. What do you guys do on a flight that long? How do you prepare for that? And then is there something you do immediately getting off the flight? Just because you've been on a plane for eight, nine hours. How does that kind of work with the team? And how do you work that into preparation for the Orange Bowl?
G
Yeah, it's not quite that long a flight, but it's a long flight. Pack a neck pillow, right. And then you make sure that whenever you hit the ground, we're going to get our body. Body's loose and do a primer, do some moving. But ultimately we've kind of prepared ourselves for it. We've flown the Rutgers this year. We've flown to Penn State. We've. We've flown across the country more than any other team, you know, at our level. So we're prepared for those moments.
A
Is that a weapon for you? I think it probably is.
G
Sounds like it kind of like a nunchuck or something, right? It sounds like with something, you know.
B
Could do the Russell.
A
Well, yeah, you could do Russell Wilson to high knees. And we don't know if you're already doing that in the plane or not, but like, everybody was complaining about the long flights and it's like Oregon is probably going to be a long flight from everywhere now. Once again, I cannot stress this enough. Once you land there, you're in a postcard. It is gorgeous. I mean, it is absolutely beautiful out there, but everything is a flight. So I guess it's just kind of expected whenever you sign up to be an Oregon Duck, like, hey, you might have to travel a little bit to the game. So it's not even a potential out outside conversation. Is that an accurate, you think read on it?
G
Yeah, I mean, who cares? They got a football field there, right?
A
You're the greatest football. You are the greatest. Speaking of football. Go ahead, Ty.
D
Yeah, Coach. I think a lot of people who don't watch you guys are just casual college football fans. They associate Oregon with like the Chip Kelly era, where, you know, you spread everybody out. And it's been very clear that getting the offensive line where it needs to be and being able to match teams physically in the Big Ten has been a big strength of you guys. How do you feel you're going to match up against Texas Tech's defense, specifically that defensive line which people have talked about ad nauseam all year about how good they are, how physical are they are. Do you guys feel like you're pretty prepared to match that test?
G
Well, I think we got time to prepare. There's certainly a really good front. You, you watch them, they don't give up explosive plays. They're really good against the run. They do an Unbelievable job rushing the passer. They got great age players. They got. Got some guys that eat up a lot of room inside and great linebacker play. So it's a complete team. It's a complete group. But we do think playing the league that we play in has prepared us for this. You know, we have an O line that's been up for the Joe Moore Award as finalist the last three years. We've got some really good play running back. We've got, again, strength in numbers with what we've been able to get back in our wide receiver position or tight end position. I think we got a special quarterback under center for us. So I love our team, I really do. But I think we're going to go play a really good one here.
A
And Texas Stack, you mentioned somebody special under center there. AQ has the last question for you, Coach.
G
Yeah.
F
You just talked about how special he is. You get to see him every single day. We only get to see him from afar every week. What does he do that makes him so special?
G
Well, it's not the same player today he was yesterday. Right? This guy gets better every single day. And Dante has unbelievable poise and composure. He can make every single throw right. He does some stuff that impresses me consistently. You know, he's able to go from 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 to 5 in a progression, which is really special. And he makes his teammates play better, you know, And I think whenever your quarterback brings confidence to the rest of the team, that's a special thing.
A
He might be number one overall pick next year. They're saying, right?
B
Oh, yeah.
A
You know what they're saying?
B
Oh, yeah.
C
About Dante.
A
They're saying maybe number one overall pick, maybe Fernando Mendoza, maybe Dante Moore. Goes back to college, though.
B
Why not?
A
Why not? Gets more reps or maybe wins a national championship, sails off in the sunset, Sco docks and does his thing. There's so much opportunity, so much available, and that's because your team has earned it. Congrats, coach. We can't wait to see what you do down there in Miami against Texas Tech.
G
Appreciate it, Pat. You guys have a great morning.
A
Have you ever been on that motorcycle?
G
No.
A
Can you ride?
G
I saw you do it, man.
I
You look good doing it.
A
Thank you.
G
During COVID I really wanted to go buy one. You know when you're like, what am I going to do this morning? I'm going get to get up on. I'm gonna, you know, turn on the Traeger. I'm gonna zoom for like five hours. But what am I gonna do after that. And I really wanted to get like an Indian motorcycle like the one off of Benjamin Button, you know?
I
You know what I mean?
A
Yeah. That big fat ass seat down there. Especially in Oregon, I assume. The riding is incredible. Have you ever rode before?
G
No, no.
A
No, I haven't. So you have no idea how to do it either? Are you just gonna do it? I mean, I.
G
In the bike, isn't it the same?
A
Yeah, it's the exact same. They got a football field there.
D
Yeah.
A
It's all I really care about. You're the man. Merry Christmas to you and your entire family. We appreciate you. Good luck. Ladies and gentlemen, coach Dan.
F
Lan.
A
Baby Dano. Here we have Baby Dan. I am a big fan of his, honestly. Yeah. He. Him having that energy of the game against jmu where they start scoring and start running like the scoreboard looks vastly different than how that game could have went. Dan kind of resting and then him saying, the standards, the standard. That's great for a coach going through the playoffs, right. That he has so much to pull from.
H
I don't think anything could be better. You win by a good number and you get to kick their ass all week and just rip them all week. You stunk, you know, just to get the guys fired up and.
A
Yeah, a little perspective changer just a bit.
H
If you won by 51 to nothing, they might be a little complacent this week. Now there's no complacency, especially on defense.
A
So is coaching literally just trying to get the most out of everybody every single week through. Like, if you had to summarize what it was, because you talking about, like, these guys, and then you hear coach Saban talk about can't let the guys. Like, it's all about just managing humans. That's all you're trying to do, right?
H
It really is. And it's not just human, it's individuals and a collective, you know, to make sure we're all on the same page, going after the same thing.
A
How were you more of do as I say, say as I do, or did you feel like you were a part of the locker room? Like, it feels like Vrabel feels like he's part of the locker room, but his vote is worth 10. Everybody else's vote is worth 1,000. One of the boys, like, I feel like that's his. What was your kind of.
H
I would let you three answer that question.
A
Yeah, I think you were in there. Yeah. You talking shit. Do you think that is the best way to go about doing it?
H
That's it's. Your personality. It has to be authentic. You know, when I was in Cleveland, I was in charge of the two minute drill on Thursdays. And I had money on the wall with the defensive backs. All right, this is ba's money. And they didn't know that I controlled the script. So one day, hey, we're playing for 50. They went 50. I'm in. I said, we need a field goal. We're on the 50 yard line. 50 seconds, two timeouts. We kicked the field goal, we beat him. Put my money on the wall.
A
Yeah. Three timeouts. You were notorious for talking shit to the defense. I mean, I never really got a chance to see that from. In the football coaching world. Like Rich Rodriguez, his crew was like very like, hey, this is how this is going to be. We're going to keep it moving. Coach Jim Caldwell and that coaching staff was kind of an older coaching staff. Coach Pagano gets there, he brings in his crew. They weren't. That wasn't really anybody's style in there. Then you get in there in the first OTAs, I hear you going, we're going to cook you all day. To a guy. Antoine Bethea, I think, or the feel. I'm like, this is co. Okay. I like what we're doing. Obviously, I'd heard stories about you in Pittsburgh, but it was a, it was a special thing. It was like a very cool relationship that you build with the boys, both on the offense and defensive side. I think it's a good sense of leadership. I think.
C
Oh, yeah, you love that. Especially with, with Luck as the quarterback. Because Luck wasn't much of a talker. Luck was more of like, you make a play against Luck and then between series or if the tools are up, he'll be having a conversation. Hey, what did you see there? Like, why did you break on that and then be able be tight. Hey, coming after your ass right now. So, like, I don't know how, how that different with, you know, coaching Tom or coach Peyton or coaching Ben, but I know the personality that Luck was. It definitely helped, which is great for.
A
VRA and Drake May.
D
Yeah.
A
I mean, it feels like VRA and Drake are like the perfect combo. He, Drake May dog quiet though.
B
Yeah.
A
We're focusing on next week. Yeah. This whole thing inside. Drake is a killer. Okay. Drake is an absolute same with Luck. Yeah. Andrew Luck same exact way. Drake killer though. Certified. We watch it, we see it. The, the amount of work he had to put in to perfect his footwork that everybody was complaining about that type of drive, motivation and all that. Then the way he runs, the way he's able to get out of things, his willingness to do things like Drake is a killer. Vrabel a little bit more of the alpha, I believe so it's like a perfect yin and yen. And then you think about McDaniel as he's gonna be there for 100 years. It's like we are staring at Potentially the next 20 years of excellence up there.
B
Oh, yeah. Get used to it. By all accounts, this is not going anywhere and it is just incredible to be in this reality. But Drake may, for the first time he was miked up and maybe it was the first time they actually released it, but he was miked up and he came off the field after the Ramon Dre Stevenson touchdown to go up after the 89 yard drive to take the lead again after being down by 11 in the fourth quarter. And it was the first time ever you really heard Drake May kind of dog mentality. To quote Tyrioni. That was the first time that it really came out in. You heard it on the sideline. I was even surprised they put it out just because when you watched it, it was weird in comparison to, you know, the answers that you mentioned that he gives out during the press conferences. But very much so. A junkyard dog, Drake May and then having Vrabel being the kind of loud alpha like you're saying is just the best.
A
The Steph Curry turnaround there to Hunter Henry was obviously. I mean, it is so smooth and casual and then right down his sideline, which means he's so comfortable and confident. Has to be with the way he's playing. But he's in a system now that feels like he's really taking advantage of everything he's great at.
C
Yeah. Coach, I want to ask you though, because obviously con man says it all the time. Josh ain't going anywhere he stand. The conversation is kind of the same with Vance Joseph in Denver because you're coaching those great players and you have these young quarterbacks. Why not stay in that situation? But how hard is it going to be for Josh McDaniel turn down another head coaching opportunity or advance Joseph if it presented itself?
H
Yeah, I would think Vance will get a shot again. Josh has had two.
C
Yep.
H
And I think he said enough's enough. I'm really happy where I got a great guy.
B
Yeah.
H
I'm just going to ride this out. And he. He's such a great offensive coordinator and he hasn't done it as a head coach for whatever reason. And for, I would say Josh Get a raise and do your thing, baby.
A
Just keep getting paid. How often do people do that? How often do people actually do that? Because there's only 32 jobs. They talk about the pay increase, running your own thing.
H
And you know, so much of it's your ego. If you just put your ego aside and say what's best for me and my family. And I think Josh has realized now this is the best thing for him and his family. Vance is probably chomping at the bit to say, hey, last time was, was a mistake. I got this, and I think he'll get a good shot.
A
And what I mean by all counts, he absolutely should. The hype of his defense has lived up to everything that it was supposed to be coming into the year, and it has been for some, some time. So obviously there's going to be plenty of coaching opportunities available. Every single NFL coaching cycle there is. That's why, like when Ben Johnson was turning down opportunities for a couple years, everybody was like, your window can close quick. Your window can close quick. You got to be able to take that head coaching paycheck versus whatever an assistant coaching paycheck is. And obviously that thing's fully guaranteed, brother, and you get a chance to kind of build the building in your own way. So I think it's a very difficult decision from my understanding, for coach coaches to make that decision. I think there is a great temptation to become the head person, not just because you think you can run it in a way that you can win into your own personal ego, but also the paycheck is doubled normally, double paycheck normally. It's like, hey, everything you like is able to go, but you have what, a thousand more obligations and jobs and so many more things you have to balance and your life and work thing becomes non existent. And it's like once you start having to make all this, those decisions, life maybe isn't good. That whole second half of the negative drawbacks of having that particular job rarely gets talked about. Whenever guys are getting new jobs. Like when Ben Johnson was turning down jobs, the conversation was, this guy's an idiot. This guy is not going to be the bell of the ball every single year. He needs to take it. Then he takes the Chicago Bears job and immediately they're having success. They're obviously pumped up about that. But I think it's much harder for these coordinators to say, I don't want it. Then we're just kind of giving credit to. And if Josh McDaniel is actually, actually does that, good on the Patriots and good on Josh McDaniels for looking in the mirror and being like, my life's good right now. This guy's unbelievably 6 foot 5. He can run faster than everybody. My family likes the area. Look at his house. This is a really good house. But then there's a thought. Well, if my salary doubles, I can get the house of raves is living in, or I can go ahead and win a Super bowl as my own head coach. Like, there's. It's such a battle. It's a very tough decision, I think, for anyone, Anybody to make, especially if you're offered a head job. There's not a lot of them.
D
Well, and maybe McDaniel is different because, you know, he's. Or McDaniel's. Excuse me. Because he's done it, you know, two times. But, like, that's what's tough, is you. You're talking about the ego portion. And, hey, like, I need to set aside and do what's best for me and my family, etc. Etc. Like, how much money you're getting paid feeds directly into your ego. It's like, oh, wow, you're telling me I'm worth $12 million a year, not three and a half like that. That's why it's. You know, because they're. They're. They're all going to be tied always.
A
If McDaniel stays up there, they're going to be a problem. Joining us now live from an attic in Ohio, ladies and gentlemen, A.J. hawk.
B
Yeah, Hawker.
A
Sorry for the delayed introduction. We obviously would like to celebrate you as a human on this Quizmas. Okay. Merry Christmas to you. I don't know if you got a chance to watch.
C
Yes.
I
Congrats to BA for, I guess, what, the first ever Merry Christmas champion.
A
He is champion. He's undefeated. He's the only reigning champion that we've ever had, so obviously he's going to carry that title. Well, with a $10,000 donation, we're excited to do it maybe next week with a different name. That was a good time. Felt like I learned a lot of things. But speaking of B.A. and speaking of McDaniels, it's time to give out BA's weekly game ball. All week we've been celebrating, you know, outstanding performances with game balls. This is standard operating procedure in NFL buildings. Coach, come in on Monday with a couple extra special game balls. They'll be painted up, too, so you can put them up in the office or in the house. Your stats, the game, the win, everything like that. It's a big celebration by everybody. Whoa, whoa. The hell was that?
B
AQ's mic.
A
Now we are. Now we are. Yeah, let's not be doing that. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time for a celebration from the AFC and a celebration from the nfc. Coach BA goes to get rainbows this week.
H
Well, being Christmas, we're going with duos this week.
A
Oh, I like that.
H
Because it's really hard to separate the quarterback from the receiver.
A
Got it.
H
And they both have great games in the afc. Drake May is Stephon Diggs.
A
Hey, congratulations.
H
Stephon did an unbelievable job of leadership on that sideline. When they were down, he was pumping everybody. Kept your chin up. All the stuff he was saying, making miraculous catches. And Drake made just unbelievable.
A
J. But what do you think it is about this Vrabel led Patriots culture? Is it Drake May and he knows he can be special. Do you think he's at the stage of life where he's like, you know what? I want to win? Like, what do you think Stefan Diggs is thinking up there in New England?
C
I mean, yeah, definitely want to win. He's been in some different situations. He's always been productive, but forever, whatever reason, he hasn't been able to get to that point. He's played with, you know, pretty good quarterbacks, I would say, for the majority of his career. But been in this situation with Vrabel. He even talked about, like, you know, I can't believe Vrabel had me to buy in, because that's the toughest part, too. When you're a veteran and you get into a new system or with a new coach, it's tough to get that guy to buy in. But when it starts from the top, as far as the leadership in the locker room and those guys are buying in, it trickles down. It always starts with your quarterback as well. Got a young quarterback, Drake May, who even before the draft, we all knew and felt like he was going to be a great locker room guy. And it's all clicking.
A
Drake May, the guy, Bruce Herrings, because he's tall, athletic, he seemingly understands what defenses are doing and he can make every single single throw. And he seemingly, in between the ears, has the moxie to be a starting quarterback. And also, yeah, he's younger brother, so he's been beat up his whole life, so he's naturally going to be humble. So is this the part? Is this the one? Is Drake May the one? B.A. is there a chance he becomes the one?
H
Oh, there. I don't think there's any doubt. Just gotta stay Healthy, keep building. Keep building that offensive line around him and keep bringing in those weapons. I mean, this kid is amazing.
A
How's he end up up in New England? Because the last one ended up up there. How's that, how's this happen? I don't understand.
B
Well, the last one, I mean, I think is why Bill Belichick's greatness is kind of undeniable. But this one feels more so like, oh, the cool shiny toys. Caleb Williams and Jaden Daniels Eisen winner in the, in the generational talents. And then Drake May's just like, oh, shoot, I just like playing football and you know, doing the, doing the thing and playing with my boys. But Diggs especially I was tell talking to if this does go as planned, looking back on this Patriots variable May era, I think everyone will say Stefon Diggs was one of the most important signings in reestablishing that New England Patriots.
A
Winning culture, which he was for Josh Allen as well. If you think about the development of Josh Allen, Stefan Diggs being added to the Buffalo Bills from the Minnesota Vikings was a massive upgrade. I think like 25% better percentage and everything like that for Josh Allen. And now Drake May only in his second year. Took Josh a couple years to find out who he is. Feels like Drake knows exactly who he is. Feels like the Patriots know who he is. And it sounds like McDaniels never leave it. He's just going to be an offense coordinator and only worry about that forever. Okay, so congratulations doing it.
B
I mean, it's just you guys might as well.
A
Yeah, but the Pacer or the Celtics stink, don't they?
B
Yeah, well, I'm. Look, I'm not going to go out on a limb and celebrate beating the Pacers after being down 20.
A
We were up though. I thought we won.
B
You guys were up 20 and then the pace and the entire Celtics bench came and 1. But the pacers are 6 and 23. So we don't have to get into that. The, the Patriots thing though, you guys should think about just jumping ship.
A
What the Colts.
B
The Colts like it doesn't look good. Okay. Packers, I guess you should say. Debo's already a fan of the Pats. Aq, I think is slowly but surely.
F
I kind of am.
A
What come through. Why? How come?
F
I love Josh McDaniels. I love his play sequencing throughout the game. I love Will Campbell, I love Jared Wilson. They re rebuilt their line. And the crazy thing is when you look at this team and the talent that they have on that roster, it's about one tenth of what he's going to have in about two, three years, literally.
A
So are you going to be a Patriots fan now? Are you a Patriots fan?
F
No, but I just like what they're doing. I'm a big fan of watching offenses and I love everything that Josh, he's bringing back the old school fullback. He's running the same offense he ran with Tom Brady in 2001, except he's got better athletes at this point.
A
How do you feel about Vrabel? Why do you get fired from. Because he can sell it to Drake. Like everybody thought we were ass. Vrabel got fired. Yeah, yeah, he got. Actually that's crazy thing about. He got fired from the Tennessee Titans basically out of nowhere. We're all just like Mike Vrabel is. A couple stinky years certainly, but then he had some years where he had 100 some people on IR or whatever. They're the number one seed in the AFC. And then obviously it was very clear that there was some differing of opinion between him and ownership and front office. And I think ownership was potentially on his side a little bit. And then ownership was got on for an office side and that's potentially because of, you know, day to day politic and potentially happening behind the scenes. So Vrabel could have had a lot of things that potentially motivated him to have a chip on his shoulder to be a head coach. But him and New England seemingly perfect for each other. Why is that, Coach?
H
It's a great marriage. I mean he knows that, that Patriot system, everything. But Mike Vrabel I've known for a long time and totally respect him as a player and a coach. And you know, we, we talked a lot in the last couple couple years. I was shocked he didn't go straight back to being a head coach. He sat with Browns and watched that dysfunction, you know, for a year. And like I learned how not to do it, you know. But that whole thing in Tennessee, they were rolling. They were rolling and then all the politics got involved from the front office.
A
It feels like that.
H
And the head personnel and coaching, they have to be intertwined to win. If, if personnel and, and coaching are different, you got players. We don't have any players. That shit don't fly. Yeah, you're not going to win. And they got it all going on in New England right now.
B
Like that's what's so cool too is that there isn't technically a GM really in New England right now. Like he is the supreme leader of the entire thing. And when you mentioned the Politic and they had multiple different GMs. There were guys moving up in the front office, moving down, that maybe had no business getting promotions or a job in the first place. Not that I know anything about it. But looking, looking back on it from what people have said about the situation, that seems to be the correct assessment. But Vrabel really is like, hey, these are the guys we're going with and this is what the team I want to be. And Elliott Wolf, also from the old regime, Belichick and Mayo, has survived, has picked dudes who have played very, very well under the Vrabel era. And it just feels as though Vrabel is the complete supreme commander.
A
And on that note, AJ Vrabel style players. Somebody over here, I forget who it was. Sorry. There's a lot of micro. Somebody said this is one tenth of the amount of talent they're going to have in the future. That's because they know exactly who they are right now. Now they have all the. They have the most money too. What do you think is the type of guy that Vrabel is looking for? A.J.
I
Oh, I mean, I'm sure he. That's the thing about Braves. Like, he's an absolute old school guy. I've known him for a long time, but even talking to him throughout his whole coaching journey, he's like the old school meathead, but he's crazy smart. And you talk to anyone that played with him, they said like Rabes was a coach on the field. If we ever question, we went to Rabes and he always had the answer. But I think he also is smart enough to evolve. And like, when I talk about like, hey, how do you even. Can you even coach these kids? Like, if I ever run into them, like, can you coach these kids hard like you want to? He's like, yeah, man. He's like, we can. These kids are their kids. It's just what they've grown up in, what's around them. It's all that he said it's different, but it's not like it's not worse. We just have to find a way to get through to them. And obviously Braves is. His message is getting across.
A
He's in a great spot because his kids all the same age. Right. So he literally knows all the references. References shit. He knows all the shit because he's been through.
I
And he's a human too. And Braves knows that there's a world outside of football going on. A lot of coaches don't know that, like, there is life outside of football.
B
Yes.
A
And Vrabes is one of the most self aware people we've seen and also intimidating guys.
B
I mean, and that's why McDaniels, I don't think will leave to what AJ just said. Like, McDaniel's biggest thing that he talked about when he was at the podium one day was just like, hey, Vrabel understands that it's not just football. Like when we come in and it's, you know, just the coaches. Like, we talk about our families and what's going on, like off the field. We're not just like, hey, leave all your shit at the front door when you're in here. It's strictly football. Like, it's not like that in the building. And that's why I think the culture is the way it is, you know, let alone the, hey, don't be uncomfortable to the players when he's walking in the cafeteria. But with the coaches, with each other, it's not just all, all ball. It is also like, hey, life is a part of it.
A
So what are you saying? You're saying we could jump ship and become Patriots fans at this bout? Because it looks like we got about 23, 30 years again for the New England. I'm saying if says never, BA Says never.
B
Well, yeah, BA Is going to ride the Buccaneers until they stink.
A
Which, yeah, but he was also with the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Indianapolis Colts and both those fan bases.
D
New England.
A
Yeah, right. Empire, legit Chief Saints.
H
Hey, I got fired a bunch of times.
A
The Patriots. Yeah, that's what happened. But it does feel like you have a very likable team now. On that note, don't you worry about the Colts, okay? Big three are to going and do their thing. I'm excited to see what it is. Boy, people calling for a lot of things after last night. You know, all Phil Rivers is saying, hey, we still got chip in a chair, brother. Okay. I've seen worse and I've seen people get in. So I'm going to continue to play. I'm going to continue to do my thing. They're calling for a lot and I would like people to know that. I understand that it has not been the most successful football here for the Indianapolis Colts this year. I think there were some really unfortunate injuries. I mean, Daniel Jones, what have you, would he have been able to see survived the whole season? I don't know. I think maybe. I think he would have been. And would he have been able to continue to do what he was doing and only get better in Shane Sagan's offense? I Think so. Whenever he comes in with a broken fibula, okay, out of nowhere we go from first team in the NFL to me, okay, Seven weeks. I don't know how many. Six weeks. Seven weeks. I had the number one headline coming out of the NFL weekend slate is the Colts are winning the Super Bowl.
B
The last undefeated team, Colts are winning Super Bowl.
A
Colts were number one off the offense in the NFL culture winning the Super Bowl. I, I legitimately thought all three phases. This team can do it. Once I saw that video from James Boyd, I think is his name, the Romeo Ville kid of Daniel Jones, after the bye week, turn around a hand, a ball off, and he couldn't move. I immediately said, it's over. I literally, in real time, who was acting?
I
Was it Shetty that said, like, oh, I don't. I don't think it's going to be a problem. Like, he's going to be fine. He'll be able to handle it. I was like, it's a broken leg, Chef D. I don't. What do you mean?
A
We see it. He can't move. A part of the offense is him being able to move like that. That is. That's why him and AR were kind of like, hey, we could kind of try a similar offense. AR obviously. Yeah.
H
This.
A
Saw this.
B
Oh, my God.
A
As soon as we saw this, I knew it was over. I got on a microphone, I had just said, the culture goes frog right there, giving him the snap. He knows too soon as he saw it, he goes, no, no, we're coming off a bye week. This is not how this is be supposed to. To go. As soon as I see this, I go on the microphone. All of a sudden, people start attacking me for being negative about the Colts. All you little flip floppers, like, no, man, I was just watching these games. The reason why we were good is because Danny Dimes could move. Danny Dimes would get us into the right position. That was the difference between him and ar. And he was able to do all the shit that AR was able to do. And he was accurate passer. Like, we had a real shot. If he's not going to do it, we're in trouble. We are in trouble. So I got a little bit negative, too. But then I sold myself on some drill dreams. Phil Rivers, this guy can do it. Turns out he can. Yeah, turns out he actually can. But on defensive side, we're never going to be healthy enough to be able to survive. And then we, we gave away a lot of pieces for a guy that's not able to play Right now, Sauce Garden. We gave away. We gave away some money to another corner coming in from San Francisco. Supposed to be a guy he gets knocked out of pregame. He's never. It's like this year for the Colts was a womb and then seemingly if you took it from the first shot of the broken fibula, that. Which I kind of did.
H
Yeah.
A
I mean, it was a rock. Quick ride to the top. I was so excited. We're going to win a Super Bowl. And then, boom, it went like this. And this is another year of not having success. This is another year of not winning the AFC South. This is another year of not being in playoffs. This is another year of not being able to. So, like, Colts fans are getting a little restless, I think. And it's been Chris Ballard through his entirety. Shane Steichen's been here long time and I think every year we've been able to bring up, like, very valid excuses. Like, very valid excuses for him. But I think we're at the point where the Colts fans are like, we're done with the valid excuses. We. We. So we need to sage this place then, is what you're saying. And that's. I don't like it. Right. Because I think very valid excuses. Like, I think we got a quarterback that was our guy.
B
No doubt.
A
Was going to be our guy. He gets hurt. Like a lot of teams are going to struggle after losing your guy. We trade 21 runs for a corner. Yeah, he can't really. He's not going to be able to play like most of the games that are very important actually going forward because he's going to get injured on first play of a game, basically. So the other guy gets hurt pre. It's like there's a lot of excuses to go around for the Indianapolis Colts, but I think the one we should talk about the most is an honors team might do that to a lot of people. Second ba game ball on the NFC side is going to who?
H
Coach Brock Purdy and Kristen McCaffrey watched that last night Live and in person and it's like, who. These guys are on fire right now.
A
Is it because of them or is it because of the Colts being ass?
H
Because a lot of people are saying it was them. I mean, Brock's back foot hit. The ball was out. Ball was out. It was accurate. And they're off and running. Christian is amazing. Like you said. I don't know how he never gets tired and he's going to get his thousand. Thousand. That puts him in rare. Rare air.
A
Yeah. Only person Ever to have multiple thousand, thousand yard set seasons. Thousand through the ground are on the ground. A th through the sky. He's. I forget how many yards away. 163 through the sky to get that done. Past a thousand on the ground last night. He's outrageous. He never gets tired. A.J. we're watching him live, you know, just because he is a specimen. You look at him, it's like that's like a Robocop type that looks like the knock him, sock him robots. That's what he's just like. Arms jacked, shoulders shoulders jacked, body, everything jacked. Just a machine of a human. Like actually looks like he was created in a lab. And if you go back through his DNA, he kind of was just like Olympic shit. Professional athlete all over the family tree. I mean the whole family tree basically above him. Is that so? He was always going to be an incredible athlete, I think. But whenever you get a chance to watch him live, it's like, damn, he's so explosive. He's so explosive.
H
Holes.
A
Tiny. He's gone. And then he's always moving. Like whenever we were watching Tyreek Hill back in the day. Christian McCaffrey is always moving and he never celebrates. Touchdown obviously does. But in between plays, it's right back in there. I'm getting the ball again. Let's go ahead and do this. It's like as expected. He's. He's a special talent, this Christian McCaffrey guy. Watching him live was a different experience, I would say.
I
Yeah. Watch this play right here. Okay. You want to cover that. You want to be Zaire Franklin right there when he has a five way go on you. That's just in the red zone. Especially like, can you. I cannot imagine how much attention you have to pay to Christian McCaffrey. But yeah, him and us checking that offense, they are absolutely rolling. And coach Ba is right. Like Brock Purdy's on fire right now, man. He's feeling it. I think he's going to continue to roll.
A
Is it Use check aq. I know you've put a lot of spotlight on the fullback from Harvard, number 44. Is it Juszczyk that really is the thing or is it like all of it?
F
Obviously, I mean, it's all of it. But he makes it go because of all of the things that, that he can do. It's all of the different things. He's interchangeable with Kittle, but then he's a great blocking fullback. Also. Just read a stat earlier today. Since 2017, non receiver, non tight end. He has the most 20 plus catches in the NFL since 2017.
A
Kyle Juszczyk, the Juice is special, always has been. He doesn't seem to ever slow down. You know, it looks like he's getting younger. He responded to my tweet about the Niners being a really good football team and him saying, yeah, they are, Pat. I don't like that. I'm kind of getting a sense of attitude from the Niners, you know, a little bit like, hey, you did your thing like last night. You're welcome. Coming into a loud house doing that. I said, the Niners are a really good football team. He responded, yeah, they are, Pat. Okay. And then George Kittle, I sent him a Godspeed on the ankle, you know, like, you were unstoppable. He goes, I saw you in the pregame. Blah, blah, blah. It's like he didn't come say hello. He was talking like, yes, they are, Pat. Here, you check. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
D
What do you want me to do?
A
Why didn't they come say hello? Now that I'm thinking about. Oh, because they were too locked in on that ass beating. I. I mean, that offense was a machine. I mean, they were fun to watch in Trent Williams. I mean, when have to get into it?
F
Well, we will, we will. We'll get there. Oh, yeah, we'll get there at some point.
A
Okay. I'm excited to get into that.
B
Also, like, genuinely now after last night, concern for Brandon Iuk, because if you're a wide receiver and you're watching that, how can you not be like, boy, I want to play with those guys so bad.
A
So let me get this straight. If I just run my route right, which I can control, I can control me running my route. I just got to get to a spot at a certain time. This guy's never going to miss. Is that. Is that what this is? There was one miss. We got a pick in aq. I think what you said was, you know, with his size, there are some things because he's going to have. The trajectory of that thing is going to have to go up. So if it floats a little bit. Tips and overthrows. Got to get those. He does sometimes have those, right? A kill.
F
He sails the ball over the middle a little bit every once in a while. And you saw it last night, the one interception. But you think back to the Carolina game, it all comes down to timing. And it's all this stuff over the middle of the field that he's trying to throw to a spot. And if the timing's off just a little bit, then that's when the interceptions come.
A
Yeah.
H
I think what's. What's his downfall is the weather that we've seen in some games down in College Station in Chicago, when that wind's blowing, if you don't have a real strong arm, it's going to really affect your ball.
A
Okay.
H
And I think when he fails, sometimes it's weather. All right. And. And I don't think it's something he can overcome. His arm's not getting any stronger.
D
My God.
H
So he got to. If he's going to go on the road in the playoffs in bad, windy weather, I think it'll really affect him.
A
Okay. They might have home game for the rest of the season. Now Santa Clara, I don't know. The wind. I know back in Candlestick, it was breezy out there in San Francisco. I don't know what Santa Clara is. But you're saying. Because if we go back to the Cleveland game last year, I think about. He had like three picks or whatever. It's like that was in Cleveland. Cleveland, right.
D
Yeah.
A
It's like you're saying, hey, every once in a while, when you got to deal with some real and arm strength does kind of show up a little bit more, that is when it could potentially show up. I don't know. I saw him spinning that thing. He had a tight, tight spiral, Coach. I mean, that thing's cutting through. I think. Whatever.
H
It's still loopy. It's still loopy.
C
All right.
H
It's not Marino.
A
All right.
H
It's loopy.
A
It's not Aaron Rodgers.
B
It's on May.
A
But what about Peyton? Peyton had a little loopy, didn't he? He did.
H
And. And. But he knew he would go out and warm up for an hour. Right. The last game of the year were up in Cleveland. It's snowing. He said we got to go early. He went out through in each corner of the end zone to find the win, where his ball was going. He got on the 50 every direction, and he knew where exactly where his ball was going.
A
So, Brock, this is what we need to do. We need to find the wins in these places. Let's go ahead and get after that, is what BA saying.
C
It took Peyton a while, you know, going up there to Foxboro, dealing with those elements, obviously dealing with the defenses. It definitely takes a while when you have to. So these. These last couple games for San Fran will be huge. Because I'm gonna trust the qb. Whispers word.
A
I don't. Yeah.
B
It took Payton so long that, you know, they started bitching and moaning about the. About the physicality that the. That The Bill Belichick DBs were using on the.
A
Has the game got to a better spot or not? I don't know.
B
I don't know. It kind of question.
A
I.
B
The beholder offense. Yeah. For New England Patriots fans.
C
Yeah.
A
Sock football fans. More people watching now. Or that whenever you guys wanted to grab on to Marvin Harrison and Reggie.
B
We weren't grabbing.
A
We were punishing. Yeah.
B
Yeah. We're bullying.
A
And what about Dallas Clark? Where you guys jumping on his back?
B
Dallas Clark. Yeah.
D
Right.
B
He was probably bitching and moaning too.
A
Dallas is jacked, by the way.
B
Yeah.
C
Great shape.
A
Unbelievable.
H
Yeah, he looked good. That picture.
A
He's as hard. I mean, he is this table. You hit him.
I
How was the atmosphere over there?
A
It was a lot house for a little. You know what the deal was.
B
Go first quarter.
A
No, the Pogo guys, the Pogo boys. Ex Pogo Extreme pogoing. They're from Pittsburgh actually, not from Indiana. And they sent it. I will say they were doing front flips and backflips over other humans that they had never met before. Other than the day of the rehearsal, I assume. So she shout out to the X pogo squad and then Red Panda on a floor that was put together right before she went out there at the 50 yard line in front of 70,000 plus with a different song and different lighting. Not only the five bowls. Also goes ahead and smashed the six bowl grand finale for the Colts carnival at halftime. It was. It was a special night in the loud house. So yeah, I'd say it was a good environment. Red Panda was at halftime. There was glow in the dark humans. Pogo sticks were going to extreme and yeah, Phil Rivers was spinning it all over the place. The loud house was electrifying. Did not love that they were up against Glock and you know, just like you have to turn music off at 20 seconds on the play clock. Just like the sound goes off at 15. I think there's an NFL rule on how much time you have to have all the field clear before a game at the end of halftime for regular season games. And that time came right about, uh. See the rest right now. Okay, it's over, PA guys. That's the show trying to get everybody off the field. Right. Because that is like against the rule. And Red Panda is like hold the phone.
C
Bang.
A
Let me go ahead and splash six real quick.
C
Was this her NFL debut?
A
I think somebody said stadium debut. I do think somebody said that. So now granted that Was just people around. Sweet. We were obviously gassed in that situation up pretty big. We are obviously going absolutely crazy for that. As everybody was. It wasn't just our suite. It was all 78. Whatever the thousands is. Including a lot of Niners fans.
I
Really did feel that way on tv.
C
Did feel that way.
A
They were loud, dude. Holy. There's. There was some Niners chance happening and I was like, whoa. And then you look up and it's.
D
All the red sea of red.
A
It's like, holy. Where are they from? They travel to. From California. And they're like, no, actually I'm from Chicago. Just massive Niners fan. Where are you from? Ohio. Like Niners faithful or all across?
H
Yeah. The plane in from Atlanta was half Niner fans.
A
Yeah, I think. I think Niners fans are.
D
Oh, yeah.
A
Nationwide brother.
C
Travel fan base.
B
Shout out. Montana, Steve Young, Jer.
A
Jerry, who was coaches Ricky Waters, Bill Walsh.
H
Bill Walsh and George Seifert.
J
Mooch.
C
Mooch.
B
Big Mooch. Mooch.
A
And Jeff Garcia when he did the TO and George Jerry rush. Just outrageous. Tough spot. Coach Mooch says, what do you want from me? The plan was to do that. They weren't. Did you ever hear that story from coach Mooch?
I
I don't think so.
A
I think the way it goes is it was Jerry Rice appreciation day and Tio went for like 14, maybe 150 yards and Jerry went for like maybe a reception for 8 yards or something like that. It was some sort of celebration for one of them and the other person got the ball the entire entire game. And obviously Mooch is the one who's to blame for that entire thing because he was the head coach. I don't remember the exact. But it was like a full on bobblehead appreciation celebration of existence for one of them. And any other guy just goes absolutely crazy.
C
Oh, yeah. T.O. had 20 receptions for 283 on Jerry Rice Day. Five games worth knowing Jerry Rice, like, we know him.
B
Yeah.
I
Everybody a competitor.
A
20 receptions for 200 yards. It was even more than what I.
C
Said from the AI overview. Now, I don't.
A
Yeah, we don't know if that.
I
I mean, they were probably doubling and triple. And Jerry. They didn't want him on bobblehead day to put up 280 as well.
A
So that's what Mooch says. Mooch gives a whole Jerry there. They got three guys on. Yeah. I don't know. This guy's wide open. He's a really good football player too. We got to give him the ball. And clearly he was seemingly always open, which that's do football.
C
Also breaking the 49ers, Jerry Rice's record for singing 16 catches in the game.
D
Oh, boy. You see, you can't do that. You can't do that.
B
But post game, didn't Jerry retain his MVP of tailgate?
A
I don't know. I don't know about that.
I
I hope they won the game.
A
I don't know about that. Jerry Riceroni is delightful and we certainly love everything about it. I do think they won the game. Antio got the game ball. All right, let's go to another segment we run every week. Whenever coach BA is here, it's time for where we state quotes as fact and BA Tells us if it's BS or no BS let's get to the first one. Go ahead, con man.
B
Yeah, Bruce. The most important thing on planet earth in the year 2026 isn't AI or public health. It's the refs contract negotiations with the NFL. Is that BS or no bsba?
H
That is total. No BS Wow.
A
AI is pretty important. Yeah.
H
This. This has to be done. We have to have professional referees. And just looking at the Detroit piss and Detroit Pittsburgh game, the first pass interference, I immediately called Dean Blandino and. And one of the other former referees, head of referees, and said, have they changed the rules? I said, no. If a DB is engaged with a wide receiver, there's no such thing as offensive pass interference. So Duggar does a great job of running into him. Yeah, but that's a touchdown. Detroit wins the game by the rule book. Now the problem is we have I don't know how many sets of officials that all have their own damn interpretation of the rules. So that. That right there is not offensive pass interference because the DB is engaged with the wide receiver.
A
Hands are on the wide receiver. That's it.
H
That's all it takes. And. And Detroit wins the game. They're still in the playoffs. So for me, we need professional referees. We've talked about having former players go to a boot camp, give them a way to become referees and. But these guys have to have accountability in the NFL office in New York, which they don't have. They only answer to the union. All right, that has to stop.
A
I agree. And their contract is up in May and it's obviously a big deal. It's first time that we. We have seen. And the NFL has always gone to bat very heavily for the NFL officials. They find people. If you say anything bad about the officials, they obviously come out and support them basically in any type of situation. Now with the contract Coming up. It does feel as if there is a time where the NFL agrees with some of our narratives about hey, we could fix this, we should fix this. Like allegedly they can't talk to him from February until fall or whatever. Like the NFL can't even talk to the of the rest refs after the season ends for like three, four months or whatever. It's like, how is that beneficial to the game at all? And are you trying to spiteful negotiate or are you trying to make the game better? And that's kind of where, you know, they can kind of hopefully change some things with these officials. But you talk about that pipeline of players like I don't know if it could be a boot camp or an academy, but it's like how do we figure out how to supply ourselves, the league and create our own? As opposed to relying on high schools from around the country, high school leagues and organizations, colleges around the league organization. How's the NFL build a more self sufficient NFL official pipeline? I think that should be something that the big brains should be thinking about. D boy.
C
Absolutely. They gotta be.
A
Because it's different than high school, it's different than College. There's 50 million people watching you on some of these things. It's like we need you to be good.
C
It's a lot of, a lot of money, obviously it's a lot of interest, but a lot of people betting money, a lot of things. And it's the fastest, biggest league, best league in the world. So you should have the best breaths in the world. That's, I mean, that's simple math.
A
And they should be fully committed to the team. Like we are NFL officials. That's what we are. They should have their own team. They should have their own pool of people. They should have their own schooling. They should have their own hangout. They should have their own trust falls in the office. I mean they should have their own AJ I think we're all seeing it the same way, right?
I
I think, yeah, we absolutely are seeing it the same way. There's so much money on the line too because due to these calls and the NFL knows that. So it's going to have to change. I mean they're going to have to tweak things, especially as we go for.
A
They go to ball for the good of ball for the good of ball. Let's go to the next BS or no BS With BA Tie.
D
Yeah. Coach of all the teams that are absolute sh. In this case last in their divisions, we're talking the Jets, Browns, Titans, Raiders, Giants, Vikings and Cardinals. The New York Football Giants are the only team that will make the playoffs next year. Is that BS or no bsba?
H
I think that's no bs.
A
That's a lot of teams.
H
What the Giants are doing right now and then their division. The Eagles is the first time to ever what 21 years to win this division. Two years in a row. You got Jackson, dart, scatter. Boo neighbors, all those young pass rushers. If they can fix that secondary free agency in the draft, I would watch out for the Giants next year. Make it a big jump.
A
You like their defense?
H
I love their defense. Yeah, those. Those kids that can rush the passer. They're all young too.
A
So you're saying Jets? Yeah, right. Bronze? Who knows. Titans? I don't think so. Raiders? Yeah, right. Vikings with nine and Kevin OConnell another year. You're saying they're going to make the playoffs?
H
Not with JJ vs. Love, Williams and golf. No, JJ ain't beat those guys.
A
N North is tough. And then the Cardinals obviously nobody really has any hope for over there. Except for maybe their color commentator aq. He's saying Cardinals not making the playoffs next year. Was that all about.
F
Yeah, they're in a tough spot. They got to figure some things out. They got to figure the quarterback situation out. They got to figure out the offensive line. They got to get some better players on defense. They got to stop getting injured. They're the most injured team in the NFL so they got a lot of things to fix.
A
Last BS or no BS would be ad but wow.
C
There will be wholesale changes in Baltimore this allseason. Lamar Jackson might be gone. Harbaugh might be gone. The Ravens are about to enter a completely different era. BS or no BSBs.
H
That's total, brother.
A
What?
H
Lamar ain't going nowhere.
C
Okay?
H
And I don't think the owner is going to move anything on John. They. They need to get healthy, but they got to get back to the Ravens way of defense. What I'm watching is not the Ravens. The Ravens were the toughest, baddest bunch of some I've ever played against. And with Suggs and you go all the way back to all the pass rushers they've had. Holotonata and Ray Lewis, all those guys. I don't see the alpha mean tough dogs on the Baltimore Raven Ravens defense. They got to get back to that and they'll be right back.
A
Do you think they'll be able to do that in one off season?
E
Diva.
A
It's hard to shift a culture back to something right? Once it's Already been.
C
I mean, ba's eyes. Yeah. I'm a firm believer, obviously, in talent, and I think Harbaugh is a good coach, and that's who they've kind of historically been at their core. So, yeah, I think they can get back to it.
A
All right. Maybe Baltimore bounces back with the same pieces. I know the Baltimore Ravens fans will be pumped up about that, aj. I know they'll be excited about that.
I
Yeah, I think so. But I think we one or two people can change the whole culture of a defense. I think you can do that.
A
Well, what's going on with Indianapolis then, cuz? I thought Lou and Rumo was coming.
I
I mean, injury things. People get hurt. Things happen, man.
A
You know, we got no first rounders, got no quarterback.
D
Got two Pro Bowlers, though.
B
Yeah, and at least you didn't pay Danny Dimes before all this happened.
A
No, we shut up. We.
C
We lose those corners. That changes every. That's like both your offensive tackles.
A
Yeah, and when are they playing again? All right. Are they.
D
Probably not this season.
B
No.
C
Thanks.
A
Hey, you got God speed, boys. We need you.
B
Trevor Lawrence and the Jags this week. Bounce back.
A
And then who? Some easy team.
F
Yeah.
B
No, you're at Houston.
A
Oh, at Houston.
B
You're at home versus the Drags at Houston.
I
Okay.
D
It can be done.
A
Possible Raiders almost got Chipping and Chip.
H
Boom.
A
That's aj. My name's Pat. From all of us to you. Merry Christmas. We appreciate the hell out of you. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. I think we got it in. Merry Christmas was good. You guys really crushed it. Yeah, that was pretty good. Aj. How about that? Shout out to Himbo for the questions. Good questions.
I
We should have the early. Early Double down by BA Was key. That was huge.
A
Yeah, I thought that was a big play. We honestly didn't know how it was going to get. We never done it before. Kind of threw it together before the show. Pretty quickly. Before the show, shout out to Himbo, dodge, duck, dip, diving. And dodging his way into sending us over the perfect amount of questions for what we were looking for. And the right questions. AQ I thought was going to maybe get over after this first couple aq, you were. You thought you were in a deep water there early. You thought you had a chance because there was a little bit more confidence before the show than maybe in the moment when you were asked some questions.
F
It's one of those things when you get the question, you think you have the answer and then you see it and you talk yourself into about five others. Like, I had the Trent Williams one.
D
Right.
F
And then I was like, aaron Rodgers has been playing for 20 years. There's no way he hasn't made more than 10 Pro Bowls.
C
Yep.
F
He's only made 10.
A
Well, how about Ryan Day? And then going to the YouTube chat. That was smart. Shout out to the chat. Dbut you being the link from the chat.
C
I felt like that that one was kind of lay up. I just said the other.
I
Yeah, a little bit out of all of them. That was the.
H
Yeah.
A
I mean, I didn't. I didn't know if Deep was saying actual the chat or just his thoughts.
F
Go ahead.
H
The putt was huge. Was huge.
B
That was a good putt.
A
Wrong.
F
Hey, I just want to. I just want to let you guys know something. Okay.
A
Yeah.
F
Somebody sent me a message. One of the Super Bowls was at the Rose Bowl. Technically, that's considered Pasadena, but if you count that technically, still la, that's eight Super Bowls. So maybe we should add a half a point. Maybe we should add a half a point.
H
We're going all of California now.
A
It was stadium. It was stadium.
I
Yeah, but then.
F
But then I clarified and I asked about city, and you did say.
A
I did say city, but with stadium being on there. Not stadiums. I mean, I. I don't know what the actual. That's a good point. If that's accurate. If that's accurate. That's a good point.
F
Yeah, of course it's accurate.
B
Somebody sent it to me.
F
Of course it's accurate.
A
Yeah, of course. Exactly.
B
Pasadena in la.
A
All right, how about this? All right, all right, how about this? Uh.
I
Oh, got a final, final question.
A
We will donate 10,000 to each of yours. K check charities of choosing because of the Los Angeles mix up. And we didn't really have rules, bylaws, guidelines for this thing at all. Sure. For an extra $5,000 donation, could we get your erase boards?
C
Is that the one you had earlier?
H
No.
C
I give you both.
A
All right.
C
Switch up your luck.
I
There you go.
F
Thanks.
H
Thanks.
D
You know it's not the board.
A
Nuh.
B
It ain't the one. It's a wizard.
A
You never know, though.
H
You.
A
You really don't know. You don't want to change.
I
J looks very confident.
F
He doesn't even know the question. Relax over there. AJ doesn't even know the question.
B
Well, AQ's already riled up. Yep. He's in his head.
C
That's when AQ's at his best.
B
He's in his head.
I
Okay, don't second guess at AQ. Go with your first instinct.
A
Yep, that's the one. Mary quiz Ms. For $5,000 bonus. If you both get it right, it'll be way up. A donation of 5,000 to each. Fran Tarinton broke whose NFL record for career pass yards in 1976. Fran Tarenton, obviously the quarterback that we absolutely love, the quarterback that did this, has a lot of connections to us on.
H
Wow.
A
Oh. On the set here. Okay, 1976. So obviously we're thinking of old time football players here. You can write your guesses down if you have a dry race board in front of you. Aj, do you have a guess of a couple? It could be.
I
I have one guess.
C
Okay, wait, wait, wait.
A
AQ's changing his answer.
B
AQ's got no fucking clue. He also just googled it on his phone.
A
No, I don't think he has his phone out. We've had been watching.
I
Yes, here we go.
A
Oh, okay. Okay. What? All right, AQ just made a little bit of an audible there. Ba, can I see your hand? Okay. I think we have similar answers from AQ and ba. Aj, would you like to give your answer on what you think it is?
I
I was thinking since you said connections, I think an old arch nest. Manning for a second.
A
Okay. Arch Manning, maybe with the ain'ts. I don't know how many years he played before 1976.
I
Yeah, I don't know.
A
Ty, what is your guess here in this entire thing?
D
Johnny Unitis.
A
Wow. That. Your answer is the same, I believe as BA's answer, which is the same as AQ. No, AQ. Who'd you put up there? Joe Namath, ladies and gentlemen. It's Johnny United pa. Hey, Q.
C
What connects do we have the Joe?
D
He's on game day four years ago.
C
Come on.
H
Colts, baby. Colts.
A
Colts.
C
Colts, Colts.
F
Isn't Joe Nama from Beaver Falls?
A
I think. Where's Johnny? Oh, okay.
F
I was thinking Pittsburgh when you said that.
A
I was thinking Pittsburgh. Yeah, he's from Pittsburgh too.
B
God.
A
So yes, I was talking about that.
F
Johnny, you from Pittsburgh?
A
Yeah, that's why I said, hey, lot of connections.
F
Where's Johnny Yu from?
A
Western Pennsylvania?
F
I thought he went to Towson University in Baltimore.
H
No, he went to Louisville, baby Jesus.
F
Sounds like I'm great at trivia.
A
No, it sounds like you. You act like you're great at.
C
You're set up for failure. 1976, that was leaning towards BA.
A
That was the only last question we had left. It says Pittsburgh Penns here, let me see. Yeah. No other. It actually says Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is where he's from. He was. Yeah, he's McGee.
F
He was born in McGee.
A
He was born in McGee Women's Hospital like myself and I think you as well.
F
That's right.
A
And I think he was actually his home, first town years of his life. The point. He actually lived at the fountain there at the point in between the three rivers.
F
So where they're setting up the draft.
A
Yeah. The most Pittsburgh that somebody could be from.
F
Perfect.
A
And yeah, he grew up on Mount. He did grow up on Mount Washington. Yeah. He's actually the highest board of Pittsburgh.
F
I was thinking Beaver County. That's where I'm from.
A
So a lot of connections. A lot of connections. I was trying to give you the answer.
H
Mr. Rooney always said that was biggest mistake he ever made.
A
Light and John Money out that not drafted him yet.
H
Let him go. Yeah, let him go.
A
Yeah. Because it would have been a Pittsburgh legend obviously forever in the way he played, how long he played. Extra $5,000 a year donation in AQ. I guess if that ends up being true. The Pasadena thing. If it ends up being true.
B
If not, deduct you. Yeah.
A
You're donating as well. All right, let's get to a break on the other side. Congratulations two time Merry Christmas champion.
H
Wow.
B
Thank you. Jeez.
A
You're completely defeated. It was like, you know, Buffalo Wild Wings did that trivia thing where they start giving you the clues but the points get down. It's like I genuinely thought saying a lot of with eyes.
C
Oh yeah.
A
I thought that was like giving you the Buffalo Wild. I was trying to help you out.
F
To my credit, almost every quarterback in the hall of fame comes from Pittsburgh.
A
So to your credit, you did that to them.
B
Bingo.
A
Way to. Way to put them in the. The hall of fame. 0 for 2. Completely duffe it in quiz.
D
It's always next year.
A
But we shouldn't focus on the negatives, right?
F
It's always next year.
H
Let's focus on all you golfers. That's why you press on the third hole.
B
Hell yeah.
A
It's a good time to press but if you're getting your ass kicked, you're going to have to do that again.
F
Press going into 18 all the way.
A
Every chance.
H
Just keep pressing.
A
Go for the throat, man. I didn't expect you to be a completely defeated quizmas player.
B
So bad helpful for Pittsburgh.
A
Jolly time.
D
Sounds like if we would have done like 1990-1995 Pittsburgh Steelers trivia though would have nailed it. Knocked it out.
A
Couple more pen number 95 for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
F
Which. Which time?
I
I mean you want to go.
F
Greg Lloyd. You want to go? Kendra Bell. We want to keep going. Let's go.
A
Craig Lloyd, catcher for the Pittsburgh Pirates, obviously.
F
So, I mean, come on.
H
Yeah, come on.
F
Say Andy Van Slyke and the boys. Let's go.
B
What's that one?
D
He's looking for one.
A
I'm looking at Jason Kendall. Is it the final answer?
F
Of course.
A
Greatest pop time of all time. Jason Kendall. Golly.
I
Benito Santiago, though. We know that.
A
What's that, buddy?
I
He didn't have much on Benito Santiago. He revolutionized the game from the catcher position.
A
What did Benito do that you love so much?
I
You know everything. He started throwing dudes out from his knees, bro. He's not flexible. Put on some bonito highlights.
A
Jason Kendall would catch the pitch, drop the glove, throw with his offhand, throw people out. What are we talking about? Revolution?
I
That's pretty quick pop time.
C
That's not real.
A
You ever watch Jason Kendall play baseball?
C
That's not real.
A
Exactly. I have. So I've been here.
I
Seems inefficient, too.
C
There's no Mike Piazza.
B
He's a shohei of the catching position.
D
Well, with all due respect, neither one of these guys are Mike Piazza.
A
But not even that dance. Yeah, I was gonna say.
D
Say that's a story for a different day.
A
You need to watch.
D
Mike Piazza was a dog.
B
Yeah, still bringing it.
F
It's from Pennsylvania, too.
A
Mike.
C
Y.
A
Who's this? Who's this highlight of. That's Benito Santiago. He did revolutionize the game, didn't he?
C
Holy shit.
F
He's young.
I
He played for 25 years, too.
G
Look at.
I
Oh, no one was doing that before him. Sorry about it.
A
Yeah, I mean, he was way early. I mean, that guy was halfway to second per second.
D
Perfect, bro.
A
I guess I'm being told there was a little bit of some conversation about him during his career on potential enhancements and stuff like that.
D
Yeah, but all those guys.
I
That was that.
B
I wasn't against the rules.
A
Yeah, they didn't know. I mean, everybody was doing. Hey, a little trembling. Allegedly.
C
He wouldn't.
B
That was early in his career.
D
Wait until you see Benito Santiago at The red. Circa 20.
B
Yes.
D
2003.
C
A little different.
A
Yeah.
D
Looked a little different.
I
That's what I was following him.
D
That's what.
I
I was a big fan.
A
Yeah. Yeah. We didn't think it was the. Is that the White Sox there? Who was he playing for?
D
I couldn't tell you.
I
Padres, I believe, back then.
D
He played so long, he played for probably eight Marlins for a while.
A
Always have a good mustache like that.
C
Johnson.
D
I Think he. I want to say aj. Did he not transition to more of a goatee later in his career?
I
He went goatee later on. I mean, he played for like 30 years, so he went through a lot of arrows.
A
So. But now. And Jason Kendall, pretty similar.
D
Two peas in a pod.
A
And you're saying P is not in that pod?
D
No.
A
What's that all about?
C
What do you mean?
D
Piaz is at the top of the tree.
C
What about Charles Johnson?
I
Is he close as a catcher or hit?
B
Who the. Is that?
D
Charles Johnson?
C
Martin's legend. Florida Martin legend?
D
Actually, no. Pudge Rodriguez, Mar.
H
Don't have any legends.
C
Whoa, whoa, whoa. Same team, world championship title.
A
So we know. So we know. Cal Raleigh is the best catcher ever. Who's. So then Piazza's number.
B
Jason Veritex two.
A
Veritex number two. And then Piazza is number three.
I
Pudge is up there.
D
Piazza, you know, you got Johnny Bench, you got. Yeah, Molinos, Rodriguez, Yachty Molina.
B
What are you doing?
D
I mean, I'm not just gonna be a homer Joe Bauer, but yeah, Posada is pretty fucking good switch hitter.
A
So Kyle Raleigh is the best of all time.
D
No, no.
H
Best hitting catcher. No, he's had.
A
He had a great year.
B
Hey, he's not.
C
Are you not even giving best hitting hitting catch?
D
No. Piazza did it for year after year after year after year after year after year. And he was doing it with guys. Yeah.
A
And on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.
D
And he was doing it against guys who were taking steroids and throwing. Throwing 145 miles an hour. You got guys, guys like Clemens hulking up, getting a broken bat back at him and saying, you know what? I'm just gonna throw this barrel right at Piazza's head, try to shake him, shake him up a little bit.
B
He did.
D
He did that in the World Series to him, you know, so Piazza had a. He had a rough run, but he was. He's a legend.
A
He's your favorite catcher?
D
No, Jorge Posada is, but. Bar none.
B
But.
D
But I do love Mike Piazza.
A
Jason Kendall, where's he at?
D
He's up there. He's up there. No batting gloves and he used to just grit the sawdust off the bat. Yeah, big chaws.
B
Top 50, obviously.
A
50 what?
B
Top 50 catchers, probably.
D
Well, easily.
B
Easily.
H
Yogi.
A
Oh, Yogi Bea so junk you can't forget.
H
Y.
A
Nothing goes to sold out games anyways. Or something like this. What's that?
C
He's no Johnny Bench.
I
Oh, Johnny Bench. He was the standard.
B
Yeah.
A
The lawyer, they called him El Howard. Really? I didn't know you were going to bring him up today. Big else. Geez. Austin Howard, that could do it. He would just always, like from here to here was just so cool.
H
Yeah.
B
He was like Sammy Ball. Yeah. Ben did the forward pass.
A
And then, you know, not just Mickey Cochran.
C
Fisk. Fisk.
D
Buster Posey.
B
Yeah.
A
What are you pointing that out? What are you talking about? That's my brain on display right there.
B
You're a big David Ross guy.
A
You got Piazza 7 love. Grandpa Ross.
D
Yeah.
A
Is he. He played catch.
H
Yeah.
D
He ain't gonna. He ain't gonna find himself on any top.
A
What the are you talking about? You know what he's doing for the United States of America.
D
I do. He's a great skipper, great manager, and he was a good player, but you can find him on those lists.
A
Grandpa Rossi gave me a bat in practice in the middle of a tour bus one day, and I appreciate that. And then immediately after, afterwards, he said, ah, I was only 200 hitters, I can do whatever you want. Exactly. It was one of the greatest lines I've ever seen. One of the greatest lines I've ever heard. And then he went on to recruit a pitcher to hopefully join Team usa And it sounds like we got a.
D
Real squad still doing it. We got big names like week over week who are saying like, yeah, it's. There's something different about dawn and the Stars and Stripes and Bryce Harper. It was either this morning or yesterday announced he's going to play too. We are to going to have the best team by far.
A
And Grandpa Rossi, I'm telling you, when I was standing in this bus with him, baseball player comes in, he. His eyes lit up. He's like, we need to get him on Team usa. And I'm like, okay, good luck out there. He's like, no, no. How are we going to right now? What are we doing? Like, he very much. They're all in on like Team USA baseball, like trying to win this thing. And I love that just watching him. And I'm not. I don't know the base baseball that well. I've tried to get into the baseball here, you know, mlb. Not the mlb, obviously. I've tried to get into MLB because of how kind and how awesome some of the was this year. Great storylines. Yeah, this year across it. So I've tried my best to get in there, watching his excitement, to do what he was doing and then learning about his career and who he was. It's like that Guy's a living legend.
D
Yeah.
A
Guy's an absolute.
D
Be a cool feather in his cap too, to be the, you know, on the coaching staff when, if. If all goes right and we do win this year.
C
Cool.
A
Yeah. Bryce Harper put the colors on my chest for the first time. I was 15. No other feeling like it. I'm excited to announce I'll be representing Team USA this year in the World Baseball Classic. America. Hell, yeah. That's what we're talking about.
D
Exactly.
A
Paul is in there too, right?
D
Yeah.
A
Is.
B
School.
D
He's talking about Aaron Judge. Yeah, yeah. He's a team cat captain, so. Yeah, he'll be there.
A
He'll be there. Better win the World Baseball Classic.
H
Is they gotta beat those two Dodger pitchers.
A
Yeah. Well, Dodgers. Japan also doesn't just have those two Dodgers pitchers. They have next two of those too, as well. Pitching there and hitting there. It's unbelievable, the depth they have. So Japan's the. This is who we're.
D
Yeah, it's gonna be us in Japan.
C
Doctors. They don't have.
F
Doctor.
D
Yeah. Their lineup is really good, but.
B
They look good.
I
They are.
C
Even to the casual.
B
Yeah. So stud. Stud.
C
Homer. Yeah.
B
Homer. Yeah.
C
You would know. Probably seven out of the nine guys.
D
We met all those guys down at the. At the All Stars, I'm a big fan of.
A
They were very cool. I will say the Dominican fellas were the most awesome group and the tightest group. Yes. And they. They have the obvious back benefit of being able to speak their own language, but then I think they have their own language within their own language and I think everybody wishes they were a part of it. From my understanding of just hanging out at MLB All Star Game on the bench with the players, the Dominican crew was the coolest crew to be a part of and they were very tight. Family coming in, talking shit, certainly in Spanish by everybody else. Having a good time.
B
Is it same time as World Cup, World Baseball Classic?
D
No, it's in like late February, early March.
A
Oh, so it's coming up.
D
Yeah, it's. Maybe it starts in like the first week of March, but that's why we're. You know, pitchers and catchers usually report in February and that's why all these guys are. So. It'll be. It'll be pretty quick. Yeah. So not. Not too long after the super bowl ends.
B
Week after the combine.
A
Yeah.
B
Let's go.
A
Thank you, baseball.
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Can I get a witness?
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You can't stop authenticity.
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Booyah. Stuart was exactly like you saw him on camera. Off camera. He dialed it up 10%. Can you imagine the impact of young black boys and girls looking at that.
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Going, I feel seen.
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He changed the culture. He changed sports stream.
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Booyah.
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Football.
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He's awesome. That's AJ Hawk. That was coach Bruce Arians. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here alongside 12 year NFL vets who both champion AQ Shipley. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Everybody in the back. Great work today, boys.
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Work, please.
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Now we're going to wrap this up in beautiful fashion. It's going to be in a fashion of learning more about ball, getting smarter, maybe learning about things that you don't normally hear about. It's time to go. AJ in the trenches with AQ Shipley. Top five performing offensive lines coming out of week 16 of the NFL season. AQ, who's number five.
B
Wow.
F
You guys got to see it up close and personal last night. San Francisco 49ers, congratulations. The Ners, very good football team. But let's just take note of one of the greatest to ever do it. Let's watch Trent Williams, the left tackle as he climbs. Watch him block two linebackers, not one. Now watch him get off that and get the other one.
A
That's a hold. It looks like not a hold.
F
He just looks like a spider monkey. The way he moves at his size is unbelievable. But short yardage play, they go 27 zone. Kyle Jus check has no one to block because Trent Williams blocked both guys.
A
This was the play afterwards. Trent's in the huddle looking up at that thing. Makes sense why he was watching. I mean he. You should not be able to do that at age 37, let alone the size that he's at. What an absolute monster left tackle.
F
It's incredible. He's the best of this generation, hands down. We talked about it earlier. 11 pro bulls. He's been all pro, I think three times. But he is. He's one of a kind. He's One of a kind.
A
Huck was leading the way there for Christian McCaffrey, obviously. George Kittle moves body. There's the 89, I think was another one last night, or 88 maybe. Was. There's so many tight ends moving bodies. It feels like you have to be. Yeah, 89 also. Yeah. Okay. So there's just so many people moving bodies last night. You have to be fully committed in this Niners offense, huh?
B
You have to.
F
And then look at Juwan Jennings. Juwan Jennings gets a great block there. He's one of the best, if not the best blocking receiver in football. And I think it's a mentality, it's an attitude, and it's a prereq to play football for Kyle Shanahan and the 49ers that everybody has to block.
A
AJ they kicked our ass last night. That's for sure. Congrats to them. Number five offensive line. Wow. Who's number four performing offensive line of week 16. Wow.
F
The Philadelphia Eagles. And we will take notice today. The five teams in this group, they're all playoff teams. The cream is starting to rise.
A
I think so. It's week 16.
H
Yeah.
F
The cream is starting to rise to the crop.
A
No more politicking to get on the top five list.
B
No, no, no politic.
A
Philadelphia Eagles back to back division champs. They certainly have their own home playoff game.
F
Absolutely. Saquon had over 100, but they had multiple guys run the football. Well, if we can pause this, when the hole opens up, we're going to get a toss play to the left. Look at this thing. First of all, the. The commander stink on defense. But look at the size of that hole to run through. My man Quinn. My man Quinn is sitting here saying he wants to see them again in two weeks because they ran. Ran it up a little bit. But listen, they do not want to see this team again because Philly's going to beat the brakes off them again because they stink on defense.
A
Big gate. They have 11 on the field. D butt.
C
I'm just like. If you pause it, like right here. Yeah. Like you got one, two.
I
Couple guys over on the ball.
C
Couple guys in a row. I mean, that is. I don't know if I've ever seen that on tape.
F
It's crazy.
A
Isn't Quinn a defensive guy? AJ what the hell's going on in Washington?
I
I mean, when things go bad, sometimes it kind of. It continues to go bad. Everyone's trying to get out of the gap and make a play.
C
It's.
I
It's tough. Defense is tough.
A
BA Is that physicality there from the Philadelphia Eagles going to have them go back to box super bowl champions. Are they back to who they're supposed to be?
H
As long as they can play with the lead because they are not a comfort behind team.
A
Oh, you're saying a little bit of front runner situation going on with Philadelphia Eagles?
H
Definitely think so. I just don't love their passing attack when they're behind.
A
Okay. If they can keep this thing on the ground, they'll continue to dominate their offensive line. Top five in the NFL. Congrats to them. They're the number one offensive line last year in the trenches with aq obviously. Still time to do that. Number three offensive line. They invested in it in the off season.
F
Yeah, the Chicago Bears have been fantastic and they ran the out of the football. I love this group. They're physical in the cold, they can run it well. But look at at the right side, right here. Cole Comet. So it starts with him blocking tight end, number 85. Watch him arc out.
B
Boom.
F
Arc out. Just freezes the DN just a little bit. And then you run old school power. You get Tuny around. You get Coleman, Holston, Loveland. You get the big trade block. Go back. Look at Darnell Wright, number 58 in that trade block with Benedict getting up to the second level. That is December football, as you would say. Bruce Arians.
H
Right.
F
Just pound the football, old school power duo, all that type of stuff. This team is built for that December football.
A
BA what's that mean?
H
It's time to run the football. But they did a great job of not asking the tight end to block the big defensive end. And that's usually what where you fail, you know, a tight end blocking a 290 pound defense, man, that's not a fair fight.
A
Ben Johnson though, has the leverage and sets up his guys to be able to block well. Right. That's why any Ben Johnson system is going to have a good offensive line, you would assume.
H
Yeah, no question.
F
It's work smarter, not harder, right. I think that's the biggest key to the really good offensive lines right now. But I used to love my man, Coach Arians. Whenever we'd go play Seattle, we'd walk in on Wednesday. You know what he would say? It's a tight ends d ends matchup. Boys. Get ready.
H
Buckle up.
A
Love everything about it. AJ Ben Johnson in one year getting a physicality culture. And it was good. It's gotten better. Might be the best, you know what I mean? He never let it rested.
I
I see what you did there. Yeah. With his design, his play design and their how they do play. It is going very, very well for them right now.
A
Well, and it's only going to get good, better and then best potentially because it's literally just his first year there. Caleb Williams obviously buying into the system more and more each week. Is that what you're seeing?
F
He's been fantastic the last couple of weeks. He really is. And I talked to Clyde Christensen yesterday. Great quarterback coach, longtime coach. We all know him. He mentioned about the NFC north and the fact that Caleb Williams arm strength being able to, as you talked about earlier, cut through the wind on some of these things. It looks like it doesn't affect his balls at all.
A
Yeah, he is a.
F
He's got a cannon.
A
Yeah, he does. He does.
C
Certainly.
A
Yeah, he does. Call hoes out there.
F
Big old hose.
A
He spins it. Yes, he does. Big strong hose. Taylor Williams got big strong host. It looks.
I
Balls are unaffected.
A
Yes, balls are unaffected by the wind or anything else actually. Because he's got that big strong hose coming out there and that ball seems to levitate, you know what I mean? Just right across the ground. It is. He got 25 yard strike and it's.
D
Just coming out of his hand like a seat.
C
Might see him later.
A
It does come out like a C. Big strong.
D
Yeah, Big strong hose. Just shoot the seed out there and it's just.
B
Yep.
A
Especially if you can play action, suck the guys up. Then you use that big strong hose and then he delivers seed. Yeah. And that's what they're doing up there. Ben Johnson also, he knows how to navigate that big strong hose, you know what I mean? Because he had Jared Goff who had big hoser.
C
Yeah.
A
And then obviously you move your offense down here. Now you got the little bit of extension, you know, extending a play and stuff like that. And you know, you can really use full playbook whenever you have that. It's only getting started up there. So we talk about Drake May and Josh McDaniel was just getting started. Ben Johnson in Chicago is only getting started. That's crazy to think about. And when they started, the first investment were three offensive linemen. And now it's paying off, you're saying.
F
Absolutely.
A
I mean, they. We.
F
We've talked about this at nauseum. They. They draft Darnell. Right. But then they go get three new guys in the interior of that offensive line. It starts there, you build from there just like Detroit did. And all of a sudden you got a good team.
A
All right, let's go to the number two performing offensive line of week 16 of the NFL season. The Buffalo Beatles. Congratulations.
F
Yeah, the Buffalo Bills looked awesome, and I liked what they did against this defense. You get an up the field, penetrating defense. Obviously, Miles Garrett wants to rush the passer, so they took advantage of that. They ran a lot of traps, quick hitters, but they also ran some crack tosses. We used to call this flip at 8. Watch. Send the tight end in motion, fake one way, flip the other. But you get the fullback out in front. You get Spencer Brown out in front, McGovern out in front. Look at big Dion Dawkins just made the Pro Bowl. Congrats. Big Dion out in front. But all the boys buying in, getting downfield, getting blocks. That's how you get the home run.
A
You already should know with Dion Dawkins. You know he's up for offensive lineman of the year. Every single year makes another Pro Bowl. I think the worry is, does Josh Allen have the team around him to be able to win a Super Bowl? If they let James Cook, that offensive line can do it. Huh? BA what are your thoughts on the Buffalo Bills taking a long run?
H
Yeah, every. They got everything except a number one wide receiver. And if. If they. If somebody can just emerge, I don't care who it is, as somebody to stop. You're not stopping James Cook so they.
A
Can change the math a little bit.
H
You're.
A
You're hoping that somebody can emerge as somebody that might change the math on the defensive side a little bit. Maybe a little bit of attention on somebody on the outside.
H
We have to put two over there. If, If. If you can load the box, if you can corner, can shut down their best guy. You look at a loaded box box all day.
C
Won't happen this year.
A
What?
C
Nobody's stepping up.
D
Keon Coleman one of these weeks.
C
Yeah. Healthy scratch with five, four.
D
Yeah.
A
What does that mean? What does that mean?
H
You're good, you're healthy. You ain't playing.
A
No. Okay. I understand that. Yes, please. Thank you. Breakdown of what is actually happening on a healthy scratch.
H
Something missing.
A
Yeah, but what is it? Because there was what? Something about Leighton, and I think Dion Doggins can mountain started helping him be a pro. And then there's. He's still around, and we're hoping for the best.
D
It's like.
A
I don't think I fully understand the situation going on. Did he play last year?
B
Yeah, played last year. Actually had a great start.
A
So what happened?
C
I don't think. I don't think played well in that.
F
Game against the Ravens in week one.
B
He played well, started amazing. And I know Bills fans are still pissed because they traded that pick that the Chiefs took, Xavier Worthy.
C
Yeah, I know one of them was disciplinary, but I don't think this. I'm not sure. I didn't. Nothing came out if it was, but I don't. I think this was just what BA said, like, yeah, you're healthy but not going to help us. So, you know, because 53 on the roster, you only dress with 46. So it's always a decision made around game day. So you got to be very disappointed if you're a Buffalo fan. He drafted him high. He didn't spend this off season with the team. But to Con Man's point, he did start off this season well. But this point in the season, this is when you need a guy to be stepping up and changing the math. And he has the. He's a freak athlete. So it's got to be between the ears at this point.
D
I mean, you just can't have a situation where a guy you basically drafted in the first round isn't going to help the team win on Sunday.
A
We've seen them have big things. I'm so confused by this entire situation. Honestly, I'm very confused because I thought we all believed in the Buffalo Bills culture, right? Yeah, we all believe in the way they develop and how they're a team and how the chemistry and. Yeah, all that stuff. We believe in it. We watch it on Hard Knocks. And then to see this talent not. I don't know. And they're just all kind of like talking around it. It's like, what is it? Is he not good anymore? Does he not know the plays? Is he not a good teammate? Is he not around? It would be nice to know because to your point, if they do get somebody that can maybe draw a little bit of attention, everything else comes like, let alone the Josh Allen Powers, he's running himself on. A lighter box would be nice.
B
Well, and King K2 has been banged up and they drafted him in the first round as if he was going to be a number one as well. So like maybe if he gets more healthy. And also they paid Khalil Shakir about $65 million. So they do have money in the wide receiver room. I guess they just don't have, you.
A
Know, one of the guys, Sean McDermott on Keon Coleman being inactive, just a combination of receivers offensively that we wanted up. And then obviously McColl was moved into five spot there for primarily special teams pursuit, but also a little bit of receivers. Well, I mean, we're Trying to figure it out up there. They got Josh out there, going to be in every game. They got an offensive line. I don't want to say it because I don't want to start any drama, but it certainly sounds like they are very disappointed that that guy's part of their team.
C
Yeah, I won't go as far as saying they hate them, but that's a real thing on Gabe. When you're not being productive on the offensive defensive side and you don't produce on special teams. I talked about it a few weeks ago, like, I knew early on in NFL, okay, I'm not going to be a special teams guy in my second year. I remember one time I walked in the locker room and I saw my shit. I saw a sweatsuit in my locker room and my pass not on. And I'm like, what the hell is going on? And boom, Bill called me in, hey, you're not going to be up today. So that was a huge wakeup call. Like, all right, you better figure out how to impact the game and how to not be replaceable. Because every time if you are that third, fourth, fifth receiver or corner or something and you're not producing those special teams, your ass is on that borderline every week.
A
Keon Coleman needs to start forcing fair catches, you know, start forcing some fair catches. Hell of a gunner. Put him a gunner. Make. Make it happen. That's a crazy situation. Hopefully they're able to figure it all out going forward. And ladies and gentlemen, wow. What this is big.
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Incredible.
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The number one offensive line in the NFL for week 16 of the NFL season, In the Trenches with AQ Shipley.
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Is the Pittsburgh Steelers.
A
Here we go, Steelers, here we go. Pittsburgh's going to the Super Bowl. I think. Philadelphia Eagles, Potentially the number one offensive line after week 16 last year, they ended up being the number one offensive line in the entire NFL all season in the trenches. And they also won a Super bowl because their offensive line is the Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line. Something that can win games for them over there.
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The interesting thing is they've had some injuries, so they've put the backups in. The backups are playing better than the starters, so maybe we need to stay with this. Left tackle Dylan Cook, he's been fantastic, fantastic. Since he has stepped in, he's been great. Spencer Anderson, who's kind of their do it all Swiss army knife, he's big tight end in this particular picture, he's number 74, so he's the big tight end, but he also started the game at left guard. So Anytime they go big package, he moves out to tight end. They bring Andrus Pete in. Sometimes he plays fullback, sometimes he plays tackle. And an unbalanced. I mean this guy's their Swiss army do it all. But it all starts with the steady guy. That's Zach Frazier, the center. Let's take a look at this. Has a great reach block. Mine right there on the nose guard. Yep, great reach block, front side. Dylan Cook gets enough of them. And then Jalen Warren. See ya later. Look at Frazier running downfield. Boys celebrating. This is old school Pittsburgh football. Connor Hayward was fantastic playing fullback in this game. I mean they looked really good. And if they can do this, then that opens up. Aaron doesn't want to throw the ball 40 times a game. If Aaron can get a 230 yard rushing day and only have to throw it 15 times, that's what this Pittsburgh Steelers team is.
A
Aaron can still chess. Obviously Dan Orlovsky broke this play down where he had DK run the bubble to get the safety out of there. So there's nobody filling the gap from over the top. Jaylen Warren breaks through the first hole, first layer and then bang, it's off to the races. The Steelers now become an explosive offense through the sky and the ground is certainly alarming if you're another team in the afc. Let's go to hammer. Number one offensive line in the NFL town.
E
What an absolute of beauty. That's. That's the first time they've ever been on ever in any position one through five. And now week 16, they're number one. Rogers is commanding the offense. Everything is coming up black and gold. Seven's coming home, boys.
C
It really is.
A
How do you genuinely, how do you feel about the backups playing better than the starters? And do you think the Pittsburgh Steelers will acknowledge that it's a good group right now.
E
So, so the where the backup situation is happening is it left tackle? And we took Roderick Jones years ago in the first round and he was always very, very highly talented. It didn't ever came all together. There was injuries and stuff like that. Since Broderick has been out, there was another injury at left tackle and then Dylan Cook stepped in and the last two games he's been unbelievable. So like the left tackle position has really been the backup position. And him coming in and being great there is a surprise that shocked all. It's not like he's a young player. I think he's like 29. But him coming in there being awesome. See the left guard who was out this game, but he's the veteran in that lineup. He's been really good all season. And then the three, the center, right guard, right tackle, have been the same all season long. Those are the. The young studs either in their first or second year. So, yeah, that. That being all like them coming together and potentially being the line of the future is. Is really, really good.
A
Tell me about Zach Frazier having to deal with 319. The cadences of Aaron. Right. Isn't that something that this entire offensive line has to deal with?
F
Well, we talked about it too, with.
A
Deal with. Get to deal with. I guess I'm saying it as a negative thing. It's certainly a positive, though, but it's a lot.
F
It's cadences, it's switching formations, it's switching plays and audibles, it's switching mics. These quarterbacks, the really good ones, the ones that play it the way it's supposed to be played, are constantly making calls and moving. And if it's now all of a sudden, it could be a double cadence. And then all of a sudden you change the thing now it goes to the next sound. So there's a. There's a lot they put on the center in these things, especially with all the moving and changing and shaking that.
A
Aaron, I believe he has Cauliflower High school wrestler.
B
Love that. One more time, foxy. Sorry, but McCormick and Fautanu or Fotanu, Troy, whatever. What's their celebration after a long run? If you watch 76 and 66, once Warren breaks away, they point at each other and they go to do some sort of somersault dance celebration right here.
C
Find that.
A
We're gonna find that.
B
Yeah. Incredible.
A
That's a big man doing the role. I like that. I like. We're doing body rolls out there. Go ahead and celebrate, boys. It's not hard. It's not easy to do that. And Zack Frazier running down and meat in the ball. Love everything about it. Congrats to the Pittsburgh Steelers. They knew be number one. They knew what was coming in trenches. Thank you, Shipley. Top five. Buffalo Bills, Chicago Bears, Philadelphia Eagles, San Francisco 49ers. Ref. Out the top five. And these are five teams that can certainly go win the Super Bowl.
F
Absolutely. Sorry.
H
I had to.
B
I had it off.
A
I didn't know if it was going.
F
To mess up to.
A
Just don't do it.
B
Sorry.
H
Okay.
C
Sorry.
A
Just. Just don't tell them you're doing too much. Tell them. Just. Just do the.
H
Just do it.
A
Thank you.
F
Just leave it on. Sorry. Sorry.
A
Exactly. You just had it. Just leave it on. We don't need you to be doing the extra stuff. Okay, we'll figure. Look, you got Nick in the back sweat. Look at this guy. He's had a rough day already. Sorry, Nick, there's enough microphones.
H
All right.
F
Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Just earlier I heard, I heard it echo.
A
Yeah, but then we had to turn back on that stop. Five offensive lines. AJ Any takeaways about the Pittsburgh Steelers being number one or any of the other teams you saw up there, A.J.
H
Hawk.
I
Yeah, I mean, I think the Pittsburgh definitely deserved it. There's a lot of meat on the field there, right there. That last clip you show with with Pittsburgh Steelers, you got to have a heavy package defensively to try to try to match all that meat they put out there.
A
Has Mike Tomlin and Artie Smith changed anything to make the offensive line's life easier or is this just kind of. They've been cooking for this moment?
F
No, they've been cooking and they also went a little bit more smash mouth. They used Connor Haywood Hayward as fullback in a lot of the packages. And then the other thing that I really liked, what I saw was the Jonu Smith Kenneth Gainwell package that they do. It's pretty cool. Jonah Smith scores on the touchdown last week. This week they run the toss to him, they move Gainwell out, they run the jet motion to gain well, then they run the flip back to Jonu Smith. So they got a whole package out of that with tight end in the backfield, gain well out wide, then they're motioning and like I said, Hayward as the fullback. So they are doing a lot of other stuff.
A
What the are you doing, Aaron? Talking to John who Smith as he's in motion behind him. It feels like they're all on the same page and all bought in. And you talk about somersaults, they're. They're certainly doing that in Pittsburgh after long ass runs. Oh man. Athleticism at an all time high, obviously from the big boys. Congrats to the Pittsburgh Steelers. All right, ladies and gentlemen, let's go to the other side of the ball. Let's go to the defensive side. Let's go. Everything db, good D, bad D with Darius J. Butler. We got some good D here.
C
We absolutely do. Starting with Derek Stingley, the best cornerback in the National Football League. Also was all everything DB last year and this is actually his first pick six in his NFL career. First touchdown since high school. And they're also the only cornerback right now three seasons in a row with fourth plus interception. This was his fourth Terrible throw. Terrible decision by Geno Smith for sure. But great instinct and awareness by Derek Stingley coming off the receiver, making the pick, getting up off the ground and taking it back to the paint.
A
How old are you ba 73. How old is Pete Carroll?
H
74 I believe.
A
Okay, so he gets a head coaching job. Obviously it's for a limited amount of time because he's 74 years old, but he is assigned with the task of making this new era of the Raiders go. It is not gone well. Obviously nothing really great to point out other than Max Crosby and they kept it close against Houston Texans. Brock Bowers in the season. Brock Bowers, what are your thoughts on the Raiders as a whole and Pete Carroll as a 74 year old head coach?
H
Well, Pete mentally is 55. He's got all that energy. His age has nothing to do with how he's coming coaching because he is a live wire practice every day. He's tackling guys and, and that's just him. I, I think the staff he put together last year, they did it so quickly. I think he's looking to, to rearrange a whole lot of guys on that staff.
A
So we think Pete going to be back with the Raiders next year?
H
I think so. I don't, I, I don't, I don't see the Raiders firing him in one year.
A
Wow, that'd be fascinating if Pete Carroll gets the leeway because he's Pete Carroll to go another year and then just have to.
D
Disgusted by it. He wants him gone right now.
I
What happened?
C
Yeah, now I want to hear that.
B
He is disgusted by Big Ra. He's sick of this whole line as well. I, I get all that. If Liam Cohen didn't throw his entire staff together about a month after everybody was hired in Jacksonville. And like the other thing is too if Pete Carol. Yeah, he might act like he's 50 but they fucking suck. Watching the Raiders is a nightmare. Like even when they pop up because they're a 425 game this week. So there's only four games. So you're going to watch them. The Texans are playing too. Everything they do is miserable and granted they scored 21 points but it felt like kind of the.
A
Well, Genti good.
B
Yeah, I forgot about Genti saying that but it felt like the, the Oregon JMU game and I shouldn't feel that way watching an NFL game at any point.
A
Well, Pete Carroll might get another year, maybe reload with a whole new staff and and restart at 74, but it does feel like they have some pieces over there, you know, you get a quarterback, get some offensive linemen, you're able to go ahead and maybe win some games. But until then, we got to watch you guys be ass. And Max Crosby, Brock Bowers, Ashton Genty, we appreciate you guys holding it down Would be cool whenever 50 million people are watching these games you guys are playing, but it doesn't seem like you're anywhere near that right now. Maybe next year.
D
Yeah, please don't give Pete Carroll another year because they're pro. They might get the, the first pick. You know they're going to draft the quarterback. Hey, Pete, give, give it another go. Okay, so this, this quarterback's going to learn that offense. All those guys are going to get canned. And then just what I mean, we've seen like, we. This guy doesn't need. Mendoza doesn't need. I mean, he could do it. He could. He's certainly a guy who could do it. He doesn't need to be learning two offenses in two years.
A
Fernando's the guy.
D
Yeah.
A
So I think so too.
B
He's definitely Brady's guy. Six five, six five.
D
I mean, I go back, I saw it about a hundred times this weekend against, against Iowa. They're down at Kinnick. He gets hit so hard right in the mouth and just delivers the biggest seed that goes for an 80 yard touchdown. It's just like.
A
And then Ohio State.
D
Yeah, exactly.
A
Yeah.
D
Right.
A
Gets all the first play of the game.
D
Very intelligent. From when he's been on the show with us, like, seems like he's prototype. I think so you can do very well in the interviews.
A
Yeah, he's going to win it over.
D
Yeah.
A
Is he going to go to a place that's going to ruin him? I hope not.
H
I hope he's going to go to a shitty team, that's for sure.
A
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. The first pick is always a team. Well, unless there's some teams that have a lot of picks that maybe aren't, so.
H
Might be trading up.
A
Yeah, yeah, there might be some action.
B
Flip it quick.
A
Yeah. Hey, Pittsburgh Steelers got a lot of assets. Next draft tone.
E
Yeah, I don't know if they have enough to move up to get Mendoza though.
A
Unfortunately in Pittsburgh during the draft, you know, the jets have a bunch of pieces, right? The jets have a shit ton of pieces. So even if they don't have the number one pick, everybody's like, well, they're certainly going to be in the ballpark for it. Feels like next year's draft is going to have a lot of action. Yeah, a lot of Action because there's a lot of piece, a lot of people that have accrued a lot of pieces.
B
And that's why Giants, Raiders, this weekend is such a massive game because like, hey, let's say the Raiders do win all of a sudden. Now the Giants, who are by all accounts not a quarterback needy team, they will be for sale. And the highest bidder who has the most assets would be the jets at that four seed.
A
That's really cool that the Colts just gave ours to the jets there at the 18th and next year's as well.
B
18Th.
C
Have we ever had a team take a quarterback in the first round back to back years?
B
Yes. Josh Rosen and Kyler.
A
Yeah.
F
Oh, yeah, sure was.
C
Wow. Okay, I know, I know BA had the Giants going to playoffs next year, but I don't know how. So I am a Jackson dart. What?
A
I don't know. What do you mean? Dude, he was 7 of 13 for.
F
33 yards.
A
Giants fan back there. That was crazy.
I
No, I'm just saying.
A
Yeah, it was a crazy, crazy game. He had only thrown it six times first three quarters.
G
So if we aren't going to let.
A
Him play, why play him if we're just tagging?
D
Throw James out there.
G
What's the point of having him back.
A
There if you're not going to let.
D
Him throw or run?
A
He needs reps. He needs to get experience. That's the purpose of this rookie season. And he's got a draft drop back against Flores's defense.
B
Who's calling plays right now? I genuinely got in my head. I have no idea.
A
Fun game. Fun game it is. Kafka. His name's up for things. Fun game. Who's the interim head coach of the Tennessee Titans?
B
He just brought his entire family to McCoy.
A
There it is. Did you know that before he brought his family to go meet Andy Reid? We'll never know. I, I literally, I, I assume Sunday morning, I guess it would have been middle of the game. As I see the Titans take the lead on the Chiefs. I think to myself, I couldn't even tell you who the fucking Arrow man. I actually thought that to myself. I'm like, we talk about it every day and I don't think right now I could tell you who's the acting head coach of the Tennessee Titans. And they're beating the Chiefs. And then immediately afterwards, turns out it's coach Mike McCoy. Here's his entire family trying to. He's, he's saying the same damn thing.
H
Andy.
A
These are my whole fucking family here. I can't believe this. It's like the Titans being able to get a win that just shows you the NFL. You know like we didn't even really know who and Michael cool. I won't let you. I apologize for that. But you guys have just been out of the conversation completely for so long. So long. And it's not fun. Cam Ward's an exciting player. We assume he's going to be good but there's they're a restart operation down there. It's like what are they going to do?
B
That's not that gives you hope though. Like same as Will Anderson saying Gint is a guy like Jeffrey Simmons saying like I want to stay here because.
A
Cam weren't so Jeffrey Simmons has been so good there for so long.
C
Yeah but I mean even with Cam and what's going on there. Drake May shitty rookie year turn around. Caleb Williams not a terrible rookie year but team wise turn around. Who's the other one? A third one this year, second year quarterback, new head coach. It'll come to me but so sometimes shitty first year, new regime maybe comes in make some good hires on the offensive or defensive side of the ball. If it's an offensive head coach like Ben Johnson hired Dennis Allen in the flip side with VRA hiring Josh McDaniels.
A
Bryce Young's in his second year with Canalis.
B
Trevor would be the one that's Trevor.
C
So not. Not as obviously further on his career but had a shitty what three, four years and then Liam comes over. You hire Campanelli on the defensive side. They're playing much better. Trevor. Trevor Lawrence look like a completely new quarterback. The quarterback we all thought he would be. So future could still be potentially bright.
A
In Tennessee and Bo Nick's second year was Sean Payton. I think he looked good towards the end of the first year as well. So I don't think anybody's saying complete ass of a season. I saw Cam Ward make some throws these eyes against Colts it's like certainly has the talent. Will they ever be able to figure it out? Let's go to some more good D and everything db absolutely.
C
A team that has been able to figure it out. Kind of flying under the radar 11 and 4 now they're los Angeles Chargers. You got Derwin James, another all everything DB guy. Now at this point, 3417 backup quarterbacks in the game. It's kind of garbage time you think you got to give. I think Cowboys took a bunch of their starters out. Chargers still have their starters in. This is why this guy is who he is still playing like this Is a two minute drive with the game on the line. Hustling his ass off. Great hustle Punch out. Give me that. Now the game is really over. Pack this up. Great job hustling. Great job just being that guy who all you mentioned, Max Crosby early. Even though he's on a shitty team, this guy, every down he's going to set the tempo and set the standard for that defense and that team as a whole.
A
That's a great peanut punch.
H
Ba the thing, Peanut started a revolution. I mean, everybody's doing it now and it's, it's something special.
B
I mean, some people would argue it.
A
Started with Chuck Pagano. No, don't put Chuck Pagano in that spot.
B
Peanut Pagano.
C
Pagano.
A
Well, see, the NFL put Chuck Pagan in a bad spot. Hey, listen, we know you're all trying to do the punch out. Let's make sure we follow the rules. Chuck Pagono, you make a video for these people. Hey, listen, when you're doing the punch, okay, we all want to do it bob, weave and do it bang. But this is the best technique. That's legal.
H
Boom.
A
Then that gets sent out to all the NFL teams. All you need is one player to be there. This guy thinks he's fucking Peanut Tillman. And then boom. The Pagan mono punch. All of a sudden, Chuck loves ball, loves peanut, loves. Everything about that is getting murdered for thinking that he created the punch out. I never said that. Jesus Christ.
F
Jesus Christ.
A
Jesus Christ, boys. No, no, nothing but respect for Peanut. Geez. I'm just trying to tell the rulers. But you're talking about an evolution or revolution. It has certainly become a great way to cause a turnover. And guys work it. Derwin definitely works it. Cause having precision punching is certainly a benefit in this particular fast. Cause if you miss, you're talking about maybe breaking your knuckles, an elbow or something like that. I mean, it's very dangerous. It could be very dangerous, but it's also lethal if you can connect.
C
And it's game changing. You know, defenses at this point, I mean, yards are one thing, but who cares about giving a bunch of yards if you can keep guys out of the end zone and create turnovers. Giving your offenses now this game was over, but giving your offenses extra possessions and a lot of times in favorable positions like this, an offense, now they're set up on the plus side of the 50 based on what their defense did. And yeah, it's definitely revolution with this peanut punch. We see it every game on every level of football now. We saw it in the, um, game we saw it last night. We had a kick return early in the game. Was it Abdullah that came across the middle and the opposite side. Boom. Punched that thing out. Every defense. You saw it when we were playing every defense gonna be punching, running back, jogging back to the huddle. And practice in training camp, you're gonna be punching it out. So you practice it, you rep it, and always pick the football up on the ground.
A
And also, Bazooka Joe, you're in an actual, actual football game. Yeah, you're in an actual football. There's a chance your helmet's not going to be perfect running around on the field. Let's make sure we're not worried about the damn helmet. Derwin James is somewhere near me, okay? Bazooka Joe.
H
Joe.
A
I mean, we love Joe Milton, okay? We're big fans of what he can do. He can do a standing back flip. I think he can throw the ball 80 yards and an orange. He obviously has an incredible talent every. Everything like that, but we can't. I can't be watching you fix your helmet in the middle of an actual football game, okay? It looks like you're. You think it's spring practice.
B
Joe.
A
Joe. And also tighten that thing up.
B
Buckle up.
A
Yeah, tighten that thing up. And you know what? Maybe he needs a guardian. If his helmet's able come off a.
B
You're right.
D
You're right.
B
Patriots also won a game on the peanut butter.
H
You know, I got a little problem. All the chicken guys that punch and don't want to tackle. If you're punching and making a tackle, that's peanut. That. This punch.
A
There he goes for a touchdown.
H
I tried to punch it out, coach. Make the tackle.
A
Okay, we need both. We need both is what you're saying. I understand.
C
It used to be if you were like the second or third guy and AJ probably speak to it. Hey, the first guy, get in there, wrap him up. Second, third guy, you coming to punch now. You could be one on one open field. And this guy, to your point, just going straight, straight punch. And as a defender, going for that ball. Those tacklers, I mean, those, those backs, those tight ends, like, they're just going. So it's going to make the tackle easier. Nine times out of 10, when you're going for. Because Rayleigh's the guy just going to juke. You see the most scary runner probably ever in history, Derrick Henry, you go for that ball. I don't care how big and strong you are. That's. That's. That's the program right there. So you tackle that Football. You're in a good spot, aj Were.
A
You a big punch outer?
I
I wish I was more. I wish I emphasized it more because it's, like, taken off over the last 10, 12 years, I guess, like, to where first guy in is going is you got to secure the tackle, of course. But yeah, they're giving a good hard punch. Like, it was more emphasized when I was playing as like, second guy in, third guy in. Always you guys come in there and punch and rip at that ball. But it's. It has changed the game. It truly has. I think runners, too, like, it slows them down as well on the perimeter outside. They know if you have any awareness you got, if you've ever had a ball punched out, it will definitely slow you. You down in traffic.
A
Yeah, a little ptsd. Scary situation watching that thing. Oh, my God.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
That's everybody's livelihoods just kind of bouncing out of my hand. I was entrusted with this ball, and it is gone. And, you know, I like this conversation about turning into a business decision. Used to play pickup basketball, Boys Park. And if it was bigger, much more athletic guy that was older than me playing. I'm doing the reach around, punch, trying to get him when he's. Oh, yeah. Not actually playing defense.
D
Start fast break.
A
Yeah. Just don't know.
I
Then Carrie picking down the other way.
A
Telling everybody, like, I tried. I thought I was going to get out.
C
Where's out?
A
Yeah, that's what I mean. I thought I was going to get it out. Every once in a while, you will make connection there. Oh, you're a hero.
B
The best.
A
Yeah, yeah. Let's go with that. We go back the other way. So against Philadelphia. Against Philadelphia, we had kickoff guy, big return. He runs. I end up in position, trail. I try to do the basketball punch out. I don't think I got contact. Ball came out. Wow. Ball came out, goes out of bounds. Okay. So obviously nobody gets it, but I remember thinking to myself, boys park.
B
I did it.
A
I just got this guy. Could you imagine? I don't think it was like when I killed that buck and I didn't shoot. I had a heart attack. There was no entry. W. It's like that punch out, I think was similar.
D
Like, I don't think I got big gust of win.
A
I never felt the.
I
The idea of it. Yeah, the idea of it just knocked.
A
It out in my brain. I'm like, this is what I'm trying to do. And then for some reason, the ball bounced out. But I do remember that. And nobody complimented me, man. It was Unbelievable. I was so bummed out. I'm like, I got the ball.
I
Still a cause fumble though.
A
Yeah. I went out of bounds. Got. They get the ball at the 50. Obviously if I'm making a play. So that's not good. But if I was on defense and there's Derrick Henry running at me.
C
Follows the program.
A
You know, let me get a backpack. I'll backpack the. Out of Derrick Henry there. Yeah. Right. His knees. I don't like watching him fumble. I tweeted this the other day. Feels weird. Feels weird watching Derrick Henry fumble.
C
It's been an issue.
A
It's not supposed to happen. Like, it's not. It's Derrick Henry. He's a superhero. Like, that is actually what it is. So every time you see like a superhero, like crack, it's like, I don't like that's not my childhood like that. That's literally what I think every time I see it come out.
H
His fumble the other night. He had it high and tight. Everything you teach a ball carrier, it's high and tight. First guy comes in, second guy catches the ball, right.
D
Boom.
A
And it goes demoralizing. They said Derek Henry shaking his head on the bench the whole time. It's like, I don't want to see Derrick Henry shaking his head. This guy's a superhero. He did everything you're supposed to.
H
He had a nice high and tight and not everything. Yes.
D
Over the last, like, year and a half too. It's. It's went from like, holy. He fumbled like, oh, man. Derek Henry fumbled again in the fourth quarter. Like, that's kind of like where it's going because it's happened multiple times now.
A
You're all right, Derek. We still remember Turbo man on the next year.
B
Derek.
A
I still remember Turbo Man. Any more. Good day or we got bad things.
C
He was on Quizmas today.
A
He was nobody, but wanted to believe.
B
Long time ago.
A
I'm sorry. He did.
H
I got it right.
C
He did.
F
I think it was the only one I got right.
B
New school dude.
A
That's right.
C
But yeah, we got. Speaking of new school dudes. Liam Cohen got his defense and his team rolling. Jacksonville Jaguars. You talk about a full circle moment. We saw Jerry Jones on the sideline with the unbelievable hurdle. We know what happened with Saquon last year and this was shortly after, kind of a. He played it like a two man in some type of zone, I would assume like a match. Backside side, so you play it underneath. You got the safety over the top. And then Bo Nix. I don't know why he made this throw to Pat Bryant. Maybe expect a big receiver to go up and be physical. But great job by Jerrion Jones going up, finishing his play. Been in position and like, oh, shit. He's actually throwing his ball going up, snagging that thing.
A
He's the one that jumped over, buddy. Yeah. And also got jumped over.
C
Yes.
B
Yeah.
A
Jerrion Jones is putting together one of the greatest highlights in the history of the NFL.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
If he can keep getting picks and keep making big time plays, I mean, they're going to talk about, about hall of Fame stuff. Like, look what this guy's been a part of. Look at these moments. That sideline leap, A.J. i mean, we've seen people blow out their knees. Instead he's jumping over dudes and then getting a pick later. What a day for him up there. Mile High.
C
Yeah.
I
Awesome. If you notice, it's fourth and two on that too. So he widens the receiver and then bam. Gets his eyes turned around because he knows that ball is probably coming out. But yeah, not many people can just standing in the moment just jump over another professional athlete, you know, screaming at him 100 miles an hour.
A
Yeah, it wasn't like it. I mean, that's four and a half, five feet there. I think you got to clear balls, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think so. You're going to be just from a standstill. That's absurd. Yeah. Jaron Jones is doing it. The paisan running the defense for Jacksonville got Campanelli.
C
Campanelli.
A
Trevor Lawrence is obviously playing his best ball.
C
Oh, yeah.
A
Are the Jags real?
H
Yes, indeed.
A
You like them?
H
I've never seen the look on Trevor Lawrence's face. He's got it now. Liam has done a great, great job. That offense. And defensively they're playing, they're playing balls out.
B
That's why these matchups, like, are so fascinating. Like, if it's Jags, Bills, how can you pick either side? It's.
A
It's got Josh Allen is what you immediately say.
B
Exactly.
A
But then it's like, well, have you watched Trevor, though? They got 14 touchdowns, zero turnovers over the last four games. It's like he's rushing and throwing all over the place. Ball's in a good spot. One last good D, I do believe.
C
Absolutely, Ransom. Talk about a full circle moment. This is a big time. This is a big time game. Ceiling interception. And if you remember last week against the Saints in a huge game, huge moment, he gets the penalty on the quarterback and makes the field goal much shorter. And now it's the flip side of it, make a big time play against Baker, Mayfield and Mike Evans. Mike Evans. Baker on the wrong page. Scramble drill. Evans goes right, Lantham goes left and makes a big time interception. Great job for the young player.
A
Yeah. So Baker and Mike Evans just zig zag, sit down situation.
H
BA Yeah, I mean, Mike. I think Mike's expecting Baker to roll back. Right. So he's going to retrace and go back to the right. Baker. I think Baker loses sight right here when he ducks and game over.
A
Panthers run the NFC South.
B
Bruce is bummed out.
A
The Panthers run the NFC south now.
H
BA yes, they are. But they got to play again. And the Panthers got to play. The Seahawks got to beat the Dolphins.
A
What are you saying? What are you saying? Sound.
H
I think it'll be tied when we go into week eight. Week 18.
C
Yeah.
B
I don't even think it matters. I think if either way, it's week 18, like next week is kind of just like, hey, steelers. Yeah.
C
Week 18 for. For the division. For Mar.
A
Where's it at? Where's the game at?
B
It is at Tampa.
A
Down there in that pirate ship canal.
B
Goes home.
A
You guys still do in the pirate ship?
H
He only lived there six months, bro. Hey, home.
A
Good house, though. I. Yeah, you guys had a good time down there?
H
Great.
A
Is the pirate ship still down there? Off cannons and it is awesome.
H
Yeah. I had my grandsons on it a couple weeks ago.
A
How is. How is Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan base you talk about?
H
There's a great on. On Amazon prime right now. 50 years of the Bucks. Raise the Flags. It's a great documentary going back to those shitty years I forgot about when we did the quiz and all the way to Doug Williams. Then Culver House not wanting to pay Doug Williams $200,000. Doug left. And then there was a Doug Williams curse for all those years.
A
Oh, no, it's a.
H
It's a great documentary. Trent Cooper did a hell of a job.
A
It's on Amazon Prime. What's it called? Raise the Flag.
H
Raise the flags.
A
50 years of Bucks football. 10.
H
10 episodes.
A
All right. Can't wait to watch a year part of it.
H
The last eight, nine, 10, maybe. Yeah.
A
10 episodes. You're a part of the last eight, nine, 10.
H
Yeah, I think so.
A
Okay, so you're part of the whole season.
H
Well, you went through John McKay and all the Tony dungeon all the way up to me and.
A
Oh, you're saying episodes.
B
Episodes.
A
Not eight, nine or ten episodes. Got it. Okay. That was miscommunication on our side. We gotta get on the same page. That's on me, not on you. So you're in episodes eight, nine and ten. Whenever we're raising the flags.
H
Yes.
A
Good for you.
B
B5000 Ode. Allot. I was like, wow, good for you.
A
Yeah, I love that. Allot's going to be there too. I apologize. We got some bad deals.
C
Yeah, we got a couple play.
A
Guess who's back Bad.
C
I hate to see it been historically bad this year. I think top five in all the wrong categories for FL as defense. Now you got lag coming over in motion. He got cover too. Running back to the very beginning. Foxy so starts with a pre snap disguise showing single high and then rotating post snap to cover two. Now this deep safety is going to be in the bind and left deep safety down here near the hatch. Going to be in the bind because he has number two streaming right at him vertical. And then you got Ladd, who's outside number one and Trevon Diggs, he's a flat defender kind of carrying that vertical. So it looks like he's just getting beat around by. But he's really an underneath defender. He's kind of in the position he should be in, but just a great play design, great execution by the Chargers and just bad positioning by the Cowboys with that late disguise.
A
Their ass. I don't like it. Okay. Dallas Cowboys once again, disappointing.
H
Yeah.
D
Is Trevon Diggs maybe still concussed from mounting that TV on his own? He missed a bunch of times. That's what he said.
B
That's what he said.
A
Sometimes when you're trying to put it on, on the, the thing, it's hard to get it up.
D
I agree.
C
On, on the, on the ceiling. Have you mounted your TV like that on a ceiling?
D
It looked like he needed to mount his TV straight into like the support beams of his house. I don't know if it was like a 55,000 pound TV or what, but it was an odd place to mount it. So I could see if that thing hit him in the head, why you would miss four or five weeks, especially.
A
If it catches you with the edge. Exactly, because then it's a little bit of a thing.
D
Yeah.
I
Was he concussed by the tv?
A
Yeah, yeah, that was a report. Yeah. And we're pulling for him and the tv. I guess we don't know what happened to the tv.
D
The TV looked very expensive.
B
So TV looked okay.
A
Some of you want to know, says Jane Slater, how Trevon Diggs got concussed. It was never that crazy, but the lack of answers made it sound like it was. It certainly was crazy. He says a TV he was trying to install from the ceiling with the pole mount fell on his head. So I was trying to be a handyman. He didn't think it was a big deal and didn't need to be addressed. But speculation on the Internet went way too far. He said he had some good plays today, but was still adjusting the game speed on if he thought this may be his last game at AT&T. Yeah, yeah. He says he wants to be here, but said they will discuss his future at the end of the season on the McConkey TD. Cover two. Cover two. Listen, I'm supposed to have a little bit of help here. Okay. How about a little bit of respect? Also on that note, Jane, it is pretty crazy that TV is knocking out a starting corner for the Dallas Cowboys. You know, I appreciate him saying, I can do this myself, though. I don't want to pay somebody a couple hundred bucks. They're going to rob me to do this. This is easy job.
C
Do you appreciate that?
A
I do. I like him looking in the mirror and saying, you can put this D up. I don't. We don't need to waste any money paying somebody. And he goes and does it. Now on that note, was that thing ever going to be flat? Never.
D
No.
A
Was that thing ever going to be properly in there? Absolutely not. Did he look for the stud before he. Did he do any of that? We don't know. Okay. He was trying to be a handyman. Probably watch some YouTube videos. What they don't show you in YouTube is that fucking gravity works. Gravity is still doing his thing.
B
There it is.
A
Yeah, it's. I appreciate him trying to be a handyman. Oh, and jeez. Yeah. I mean, it's what happens.
D
I mean, we're not talking just your run of the mill 55 inch TV that he certainly could put up. I mean, this thing is 200 inches. What is he thinking he was gonna do on his own?
B
Shout out Bad Santa? Yeah, yeah.
A
Not a bad movie, obviously. Need to see, especially this time of year on the biggest screen you can get. But first, boy, people always say like, hey, when you get rich, you get lazy, you get weak. And then people take advantage of you and trip on thinks. Like, I can put this up. Look, couple of these, couple of those. You just need to make sure you find a stud up. Bertra. I. I think that's probably the issue. That thing might have been on somewhere else. And how's it look?
C
Yeah, Geek squad in there. Get on thumbtack. I mean, Come on. What are we doing?
A
Yeah. And listen, Trevon, you can act like you're a part of it. You can look at them while they're.
D
Doing it or like move it.
C
Move it to a little bit.
D
Okay.
C
That's good stuff.
H
Yeah.
A
Be the foreman. Yeah. And then even download the. The laser balance on your phone so you can act like you're actually doing something that looks like it's a little bit off. Don't you think? Certainly do that. You've earned that, dude. Way to go. With all your football abilities. You have earned the right to watch another hang your tv. That is way too big.
D
So big.
A
Congratulations, man. We're proud of you for that.
C
He's back out.
A
He's back out there. Now people are saying, is he actually out there or what? Is. Is he still in Bad Santa. We don't. We're not 100% sure. We have to see him play great football again. And it looks like we're about to see some more bad football.
C
Depends on how you look at it. Depends on who you're a fan of. Great football. Some great offense here.
D
Yeah.
C
O overtime here. 16:16.
A
I didn't know Halfley's team don't do that. Ain't his fault. I didn't know Halfley was showing up.
D
On back 163 with five minutes left in the goddamn game. The packers defense was phenomenal all night long now. I mean, he's good offense. We. Ben Johnson, he's a bell ball for a reason.
A
Is this everything? Db Good D, bad D. What is this right here?
D
This is bad D. Pick on the packers first. They lost the heartbreak.
C
This is first and 10 in the alumni section. And I love this. Ben Johnson and Caleb just going for the absolute juggler. Just like BA did or Mary Quizmas early in the game. But this is late in game. The last play. DJ Moore all the way across the field. Unbelievable catch. I mean, pretty damn good coverage. We had Patrick Certain on here last week. Who was quarters coverage. Outside leverage. I believe this is. If you run it back. I believe this is quarters coverage too. The safety is just very aggressive in the run game. 13 personnel. Everything looks like a run. Good play action. Caleb Williams, AKA Iceman. And then you step up in the pocket and make an unbelievable throw in this type of, you know, weather. Weather wasn't terrible. But you're in Chicago in December. It's a big time throw. Damn near 60 yards in the air. And DJ Moore, unbelievable concentration. Great catch with Nixon all over him.
A
How would you describe Caleb Williams arm?
C
Elite.
A
Okay. Elite I don't know if you want to say big old hose.
C
Yeah, I said big arm.
A
He has a big hose.
C
I say a big arm for sure.
I
I would say, what do they call big arm?
D
Your big fat hose?
C
I definitely would not say that. I would say generational arm. Talent.
A
Generational host.
B
Look out talent. Move over Sins.
C
It wants to get a great play call. If you run it back to beginning against quarters coverage, you got both safeties kind of involved in the run game. So they're tight. And even with when Nixon had the interception last time, these teams kind of always comes back full circle cornerback. Obviously he's on the opposite side of it now. They kind of blow blew that coverage and Keyshawn just kind of fell into the right place and made a great play. This was a great job by him. But sometimes it just happens like that. Nixon's been tough for him, but it's been great for The Iceman and D.J. moore over there.
A
It's crazy. The packers are now on bad D. What does the future look like? Who knows? Couple injuries, couple lost games. Everything starts going sideways. Hey, that's life in sports. Entrance of shame.
D
Well said, man. Well said. I hadn't thought of that yet, but.
A
You'Re right, it is. Yeah. That is what it's like. Coach B.A. we appreciate you, brother. Thank you.
D
What?
A
Good job, Bud. Completely defeated in Mary quiz.
I
I gave second place.
F
I gave him my all.
A
He did get second place. That's a good call, A.J. that's a very positive way to look at first place. So obviously, coach B.A.
C
B.A.
A
Nine year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler. Thank you. Merry Christmas, everybody. Everybody say, Travis, Merry Christmas to you. I believe we're back tomorrow, right? Yeah. Thought so. I was hoping everybody thought that.
D
Yep.
A
Because in my head, we were definitely doing a show tomorrow. But I didn't know what I had told you guys weeks ago, whether or not we were doing a show or not. So I didn't know there in the moment in my head, we got a show tomorrow. Then if you guys would have said, I would have been like, but instead you're gonna run bowl games or something. Because that is the time of year we're in.
D
Yes.
A
Like New Year's Eve, for instance. Obviously there's a bunch of games. So we will not be live, we will be traveling. I do believe at that exact time, because I think Iowa is actually playing on New Year's Eve at noon.
C
Correct.
A
New Year's Day is Rose bowl day. College game day day. We'll be there for a field pass for Indiana And Alabama. So, you know, Christmas will be off. I believe Boxing Day, we will be off as well, because there's a lot of things on tv, so hopefully everybody enjoys their lives. But tomorrow, tomorrow we'll be back with Christmas Eve. We'll have a couple. We'll say spirited segments tomorrow, you know, about who is Sam's favorite helper this year, who's on a naughty list, who's on a nice list in the sports world. You know, we got to break that all down as we celebrate Jesus Christ being born over in Nazareth in a barn.
H
That's right.
A
Well said to a Lady Mary and Big.
D
Big Joe.
A
Big Joe. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together.
I
We don't have to go to church now.
A
Wednesday night, I heard's a big one.
I
It is.
D
Midnight mass is awesome, actually.
A
Okay, so that'll be Wednesday night, right?
D
Yes.
A
Walking in a Colts game. E. Jesus Christ. E. For the Colts.
C
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
A
You know, E. Ball. Eric. Eric Simpson.
C
Eric.
A
Eric Simpson. Good guy. Okay. Eric Simpson is a great man.
C
Great guy.
A
Eric Simpson has had to sit through a lot of me asking a lot of questions. Okay. And he has sat in the pocket. And I'd like to let him know I appreciate the hell out of him. He was going to be the guy that was actually going to do me and Sam's wedding, end up being Bob Kavoli and obviously from Bob and Tom show. So I said, but, like, great relationship with E. He also threw me a lot last night. I saw him and I'm like, hey, pretty big time of year, E. Right. Because he's a pastor or whatever he goes, Wednesday night should come by. And I actually was like, you know what my extra style this is.
C
Did he give you the paper, the notes from chapel? Usually when I see him, he. He gives me rundown chapel.
A
He knows I'm not a notes guy. I want to hear it. I want to hear the delivery, you know, because he'll do. A man of the cloth, I believe, because Jesus Christ washed people's feet. I believe that was one of the storylines.
C
Damn right.
A
I like to hear the way these stories that have been told a lot of times are delivered by the preacher or the pastor. I think that's what separates, obviously, who is supposed to be doing it, who's not supposed to be doing it. E. Good man. He's got a big show Wednesday night, though. Yep. I told him that's a holy dude. Big one coming up. This is it. This is the Super Bowl. Right. He's like, well, actually Easter. We also. Yeah, yeah, we got a whole thing. I was like, oh, I don't. I just heard about Yom Kippur. Yeah, I just heard about. I. I thought Hanukkah was the one. I just heard about it all, so I hope everybody's happy. But Merry Christmas and we appreciate you all for allowing us to do this for a living. We're back tomorrow. Ba. Anything before we get out of here?
H
Great show. Better with next week.
A
Hell, yeah. How about you, aq?
F
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night.
A
Okay. It's 3:00 in the afternoon, so obviously we hope you have a great rest of your afternoon as well. And later, evening and Deebot, anything before we go?
C
Enjoy your Kwanzaa. Happy Kwanzaa.
A
Hell, yeah. That's a celebration. I believe, big time. Fruits. I believe it's a lot of fruits out there. I actually ended up in a Kwanzaa celebration one time. I. I did not know I was going to be there. We were having a blast, though, and I was trying to get some fruit. They were having a celebration. We're in there. Happy Kwanzaa. When is it?
C
Starts the day after Christmas. First day is unity. Spot unity.
A
Boxing Day. We talked.
C
Yeah.
H
Yeah.
A
We don't really like Boxing Day, do we?
C
Nah.
A
Phenomenal day. Happy Boxing Day to Canadians and the English. Happy Boxing Day, everybody. Happy Boxing Day. Gump.
C
Yep.
A
Team on me. Team on three. Merry Christmas, everybody. Merry Christmas.
C
Merry Christmas.
I
Yes.
C
Happy quasi.
A
Want to sing together? Happy Hanukkah. No good celebration. Did you light all the candles?
F
I did. Got a great picture on my wife's Instagram.
A
Did you play with the dreidel? Played with the dreidel.
F
We got 33 menorahs in our house.
A
Then they all come down for Christmas. You say, jesus, it's time now. Sell it to. Is that what you do in the house? Split ass? Obviously I'm in a bad spot. Team on me. Team on three. God bless everybody. One, two, three.
B
Team. Goodbye.
J
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Date: December 23, 2025
Main Host: Pat McAfee
Regular Panel: AJ Hawk, Darius Butler (“D Butt”), AQ Shipley, “Toxic Table” (Boston Connor & Ty Schmidt), Tone Digs
Guests: Bruce Arians (BA), Dan Orlovsky, Oregon HC Dan Lanning
This festive edition of The Pat McAfee Show combines Monday Night Football breakdowns, in-depth NFL analysis, and the debut of a new trivia showdown—Merry Quizmas. With cameos from iconic names in football—Bruce Arians, Dan Orlovsky, Darius Butler, and more—the discussion jumps from Brock Purdy’s dominance, Colts’ defensive struggles, and playoff implications, to coaching philosophy with Oregon’s Dan Lanning and lighthearted holiday-themed competition. The camaraderie and holiday energy are unmistakable, blending expert football breakdowns, insider stories, and the show’s signature humor.
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