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PMS 2.0 1481 - OVERREACTION MONDAY, Week 18 NFL Recap, Adam Schefter, Indiana QB Fernando Mendoza, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this massive Overreaction Black Monday, January 5, 2026. This program begins now. Football is magical in the NFL, has wrapped up its regular season. Congratulations to the NFL. Congratulations. Ratings are up and to the right. Obviously, football was magical this year, but today is a day that some guys and their families are going to be told, you're getting the hell out of this town. There's some. Ladies and gentlemen, we have breaking news. Jonathan Gannon has been fired as the Arizona Cardinals head coach. Arizona closed this season with nine straight losses, ultimately costing Gannon his job. Cardinals GM Monty also for will spearhead the search for a new head coach. Head coach fired. GM stays. What do they do with Kyler Murray going forward? Who knows? What do the Cardinals look like going forward? Who knows? But what we do know, Jonathan Gannon has been fired today. That means his entire coaching staff's been fired. All their families have been fired. They're going to have to pick up and find a new. That is the life of a coach. We'd like to say Jonathan Gannon, good luck wherever you go next. Good luck, young lad. A lot of young lads on our coaching staff obviously not able to get it figured out down there. Losing nine straight is certainly something that would chatter about a conversation about being fired. But there are some other teams who lose seven, eight straight and that doesn't happen now. On that note, there's already been a few coaches fired today. There's already been a few coaches fired this season, and that takes it up to six, I do believe in total because day ball was fired during the regular season, as was Brian Callahan. Raheem Morris, it was announced last night, was fired from the Atlanta Falcons. Kevin Stefanski this morning fired from the Cleveland Browns. Felt like everybody knew that was coming. Both Schefter and Jay Glazer yesterday were like, Stefanski, he'll be a hot name on the market whenever. That's kind of how they were talking about him. And then Pete Carroll, one and done at Las Vegas. All his other assistants had been fired and that team had been ass. So we assumed there was a chance a one and done would be happening for Pete Carroll. It does. What does Tom Brady and Mark Davis do going forward? Hopefully they summon the power of Al Davis and get it going. And now Jonathan Gannon. That's six head coaches who have been fired. That means a lot of building, having a lot of turnover. General manager is also being talked about at this exact moment.
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Oh, yeah.
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And wildcard weekends coming up which follows college football semifinal. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Unreal.
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Yeah.
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Thursday, college football playoff semifinal.
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What?
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Friday, college football playoff semifinal. Saturday, super wild card games. Sunday, three super wild card games. And then Monday, one super wild card football games. Whenever you talk about it being a great time to be alive, we're talking about right the now. Ladies and gentlemen, the NFL season's over, but it's just getting started. Who will climb Lombardi Mountain, become a world champ, and who will try to find what they have to do to become relevant in the conversation of greatness in the greatest league on earth? We shall see the talks and tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Boys, good luck to both your teams.
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Thank you very much, man.
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You too. Just in every. In everything going forward. Good luck.
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That's true. Carly Arce, one of the big three owners of the Indianapolis Colts, will be speaking at 2:30 Eastern Time. I believe she has a press conference. She's going to go over everything, I assume that went into deciding to keep Chris Ballard and Shane Steich. And this news was broke less than a minute after losing your seventh eighth strike game.
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Yeah.
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Tough finish.
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Quick thinkers, 8 and 1.
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Hey, decisive.
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Hell of a start.
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Might have found their guy moving forward.
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Okay, Riley Leonard is a guy. And since he is a guy, what are we doing? I just assumed Riley couldn't get the snap off. I assume Riley had no idea what the offense was. We got to bring in Phil Rivers. Riley had a little bit of a bum knee. Okay. He was injured, so obviously we had to do something. But then we bring in Phil Rivers, it's like, all right, this must mean Riley's not ready for the. He is. Took on the best defense in football. Had a couple dimes, went for 200, some plus had a couple touchdowns. Running all over the place is Riley Leonard, our guy going forward. Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard will be the ones deciding. They are the ones that drafted them and developing just like they have for the last nine years here in Indianapolis. With zero AFC south channel championships, obviously I'm a little bummed out because the playoffs are a special time. If your team is in, you should feel excited because any of these teams can win a Super Bowl. There's only a couple teams I think we all hold high and above everybody else. But any given Sunday, Saturday or Friday or Thursday, whatever these wild card games or playoff games happen, you could lose. This is truly up for grabs this year and it's a special time to be a football fan. And congrats to one half of the hammer, dad. Cowboys AP to not only do you have to submit all your AP votes for awards and such, but also to Pittsburgh Steelers in a thriller on Sunday Night Football against an arch rival. A game that was win and make the playoffs and host a playoff game and lose, go home and probably coach gets fired. Yeah, that was kind of the conversation that was happening between the Pittsburgh Steelers and Baltimore Ravens last night. And congratulations to the Pittsburgh Steelers after a missed kick. That thing looked like a hell.
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Whoa.
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Might have been a little divine intervention.
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In the name of Patri.
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Yeah, in them Patre spirit Santo.
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Father Maximilian Maxwell from our source, potentially subbing in for another priest on this particular evening was down there. Decided to go ahead and throw a little bit of that holy water on her. And then you tell me that ball just right to the right like that. Tyler Loupe has been an incredible kicker for the Baltimore Ravens all year. He is a rook ass rook. So you don't know what he is until the big moment comes. Well, in the biggest moment against Pittsburgh Steelers, hit it and you win. Miss it and you lose in Pittsburgh and they dance on your face. And maybe Aaron, Aaron Rodgers, who knows what his future is going to hold. He has another football game. Mike Tomlin, who knows what his future is going to hold. Jay Glazer mentioned something about tv. He's very tight with Mike Tomlin. So maybe Coach Tomlin is thinking about TV after this year. Maybe he's done with being a coach. I don't know if Yinzers would be pumped up about that or not, but I do think it's something we need to keep in mind as we watch this Pittsburgh Steelers team go forward. Pittsburgh Steelers win the AFC North. Their fans obviously excited their record on Monday nights, which is when their super wild card game will be as they host the Houston Texans like 23 and over. Something going back all the way to 23 straight.
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Going all the way back 91 maybe or something like that.
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Monday Night Football is the Pittsburgh Steelers night. That's their super wild card game. They got to Houston, Texas. So now all of a sudden this Pittsburgh Steelers team with their fan base calling for everybody to be fired and tear it down just a few weeks ago, now they might not only win a playoff game, but once you win one, who knows what can happen next. Especially with Aaron Rodgers playing the way he's playing. If Cam Hayward is going to continue to play that way on defense, if T.J. watts going to continue to get back into it, are the Pittsburgh Steelers going to win the Super Bowl? That's what it feels like. On super wild card week. And that is why I am very envious of all the teams that are in there. Congrats to Uturn on an electrifying, thrilling Sunday night where you predicted it perfectly on what the outcome was going to be.
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Amen, brother. Thank you very much. First, yeah, it started, the game started with what, a 60 yard run by Derek Henry. And I was like, all right, all right, we're going to see this again. But everyone hunkered down.
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They did hunker down. Yeah.
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10, three going into half. Could have been 10, 10. Could have been 10, six. You tweeted me about that decision. I liked Mike Tomlin. The last few weeks has been a lot more aggressive. I don't know if it's because he said fuck it or whatever, but he's been a lot more aggressive, which I liked. Even though it didn't go in like the decision. Hated the play call. And then they dominated that second quarter. The third quarter, I think the Ravens only had 20 yards or something like that, and they had all the momentum. And then the fourth quarter was just pandemonium.
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Pandemonium is accentuated. This is kind of the NFL season in a nutshell, especially the primetime games. I mean, Lamar Jackson doing classic Lamar Jackson stuff. Dize Flowers, who gets behind Patrick Queen. That's going to be a tough matchup for the middle linebackers. Going to have to chase that. And then Kenneth Gainwell gets into the paint. And now we're talking fourth quarter legendary stuff here. 17, 13, 2017. Okay, it's fourth quarter. Only 349. Not much left can happen, right? Wrong. Lamar Jackson, Zay Flowers wide ass open. Not gonna catch him. Holy hell. Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens late in the fourth quarter. Answer, respond. Take the lead. They win the AFC North. What a moment for the Baltimore Ravens and Harbaugh. Hey, why don't you run a little stick and go back there? Calvin Austin gets it right in the hands. They take the lead late. Well, it's less than a minute. Aaron Rodgers is pointing up with his broken wrist that we thought maybe go wrong. That was gonna extra point to go up three. It's Chris Boswell, literally one of the greatest of all time.
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40 in a row. 40 in a row.
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Extra points.
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Unbelievable that that thing goes right. Let's go to the kickoff. Then nothing bad can happen. Remember now, with the new kickoff, you gotta throw a strike. They got a chance to go for it. And the Baltimore Ravens. John Harbaugh came from the special teams world. Good special teams team. Not that Steelers aren't but the Baltimore Ravens get a big time return. Oh my God. They're just one or two plays away from a game winning field goal attempt. Well, it gets down to 4th and 7, 20 seconds left. How likely is very. What a catch. First down, extend the game. We are in field goal range. Do your dance likely. Do your dance now. Tyler Loop, he's been good all year. TYLER Luke from 44.
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Snap Footed Holding.
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The kick is no good. It is wide right. And the Steelers are the champions of the North. Sorry. Sorry man. Sorry. Unbelievable stuff last night. So thrilling late night. And for those that fell asleep and woke up and saw the final score, you could have never expected what the real chaos was. Two missed kicks within 35 seconds of real time and game time. And then the Steelers getting the AFC North. And now they're fans thinking maybe, yeah, maybe we do win the Super Bowl. Maybe we are a team of destiny. Maybe Father Maximilian Maxwell go ahead. And drains all the holy water on Acreshire Field and blesses the Pittsburgh Steelers not only with the north, but maybe a run be talked about as the race for seven in Pittsburgh is seemingly all the way back on. Congrats on a huge win.
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Thank you.
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I know their yinzer stuck around that pop when that ball missed. Oh man. I mean that's 11 o' clock and 11:30 at night there. That's late night in Pittsburgh in everywhere basically. Not a seat was empty, not an energy was lacked. The entire place exploded. All rowing in the same direction. Let's go win this thing. I don't know what John 3:16 says.
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Neither do I. It says he's gonna miss it wide right.
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But I do know it felt like a little divine intervention. Maybe this is a team of destiny. Maybe the Pittsburgh Steelers are all brothers in Christ.
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So who knows?
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Is that what you're saying now or all. All the time. All the time. Okay.
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Well, God bless you ordered a Bible last night.
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Shout out John 3:16 is the first.
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Place you're headed order to spend a day like a. You get a excerpt from the Bible. A day with Jesus, I think it's called.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Your daily verse. Our Lord in seven, hallowed be thy name. Yeah. Thy kingdom come, thou playoff will be fun on earth as it is in heaven.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. It certainly is. Yeah. Amen. We all lived it. Congrats to you guys. What a thrilling way to end it. And the Internet was calling for you to potentially show up and bless us with your takes. And you certainly have shout out to the Steelers getting a huge win and that's good. I mean that's a 40 some yard field goal. This has been the year of kickers making kicks.
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Yeah.
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And for that to be a miss and for the Steelers to go on, let's get a nine year NFL vet, Darius J. Butler, Steelers all of a sudden go from. Or the fans at least go from get rid of everybody to. Now wait a minute. That ball did miss, didn't it? Yeah, it did. Maybe we can go on run. Cam Hayward played his best football we've.
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Seen, dominated TJ Watt was back interception.
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Aaron Rodgers breaking things down, calling plays in a huddle yet again, the touchdown of Calvin Austin, allegedly from the way Aaron Rodgers broke it.
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Calvin's the sweetest guy.
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Sweet boy.
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I have such a love and appreciation for, for Cal and his disposition and.
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Multiple times in the huddle, I'm asking.
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Him on various plays, what do you want on the backside? What do you want on the backside? And he, he wouldn't give me a straight answer. And on this, on this particular huddle conversation, I said, what do you want, Cal? He said, and somebody to my right, I don't know if it was McCormick or Pat said something about like, man.
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Just go cook him or something.
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So I said, all right Cal, you run the hitch and go back there.
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And he did, he did cook them. Guy ends up on all fours, they score a touchdown, obviously that ends up being the winner. But D but whenever you think about this Steelers team in this type of game, what can it do for them going into the playoffs? Should we be considering the Steelers a Super bowl threat or should we be talking about everybody that makes it as a Super bowl threat?
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I mean, look, it's only 14 teams in the dance. Once you get in the dance, obviously anyone can go on the run, especially with the landscape that is right now with the teams, the quarterbacks, the coaches, only two teams right now. I think as a head coach, quarterback combination have went there and done it and won it all. I think that's Jalen hurts, Nick Sirianni in Philly and then Sean McVay, Matt Stafford and the Rams together as a unit. So it's wide open on both sides. So absolutely you can look at the Steelers team, if you are a Steelers fan especially and say this team can go on the run and then after these two games that DK's been out, you get your biggest weapon back on offense with some fresh legs in the playoffs. So yeah, you should feel great. Obviously, you know what happened in the fourth quarter defensively, you know Lamar Jackson, we mentioned him earlier, he was 6 for 8, 172, two touchdowns in the fourth quarter. You had some blown coverages on the back end, but you know, you found a way to get it done. I definitely have some questions about what was going on on the field with. What was his Name? Maximilian. John 6:3 16. For God so loved the world, he gave his only begotten son. Those believe in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life. That's the verse. But this right here, I did have to act, so I. Look, I love Jesus.
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John 3:16 is kind of the story of the Bible. It appears.
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Oh, yeah, that's. Yeah, that's. That's a. That's one of the very popular verses. Mount Rushmore verse, John 3:16.
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It sounds like it is the Rushmore verse. For God so loved the world that he gave his only son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. Okay, so that's like kind of the entire religion, right? That John 3:16 guy, he was at every event, remember? That was like kind of.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Is this a new John 3:16 signed guy?
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I don't know.
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Look like a little better handwriting.
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I'm only familiar with the Austin316 verse.
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But why you have your John 3:16? Austin316 says, I just kicked your ass. Now on that note, John 3:16, in Father Maximilian Maxwell potentially working for the Pittsburgh Steelers last night, if God was to continue to work for the Pittsburgh Steelers. What an incredible story this would be, honestly. And this includes if Tomlin was to move on. Like if Tomlin is seriously considering television, which Jay Glazer, once again, we got a very tight with Tomlin. Like, very, very, very Coach Tomlin. They are very tight. So yesterday when he's standing in front of a 45 foot screen.
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Yeah, correct.
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Did you see Jay in front of that screen?
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Oh, yeah.
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And did you see the boys with their view of him? Yeah, that was awesome. It was incredible. Kind of watching him stand at the back with that big screen behind him, but whenever he goes, you know, hardball, like, I don't know if he's going to get fired, but certainly would have to make decision in conversation. He's certainly bigger Coach Tomlin. Maybe he moves into tv, there'll be something. It's like, ooh, Jay Glazer saying that means something. I think Tomlin's actually thinking about it. Maybe he's sick of the entire just being above 500 as well. Like, maybe he's like, listen, I tried my ass off.
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I'm not Buying it.
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You think he's football guy through and through.
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I trust Jay and his relationship, but every time we've heard Mike Tomlin speak, whether it's been a college job or retiring, he's like, hey, I'm the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Like it's not a better job in the world when it comes to sports. So I believe him. I'll take him at his word. And every time we see him, whether it's a post game conference or talking to the media or talking to his team, we've, we've talked to some of the players there, he still has that same fire. He still shows up. He always hits us with a new one liner. And I'm sure he has. He had the guys ready to play for sure last night, man. And we had a lot of talks and rumblings about, you know, Cam Hayward definitely coming into this season wanting a new contract. What is fifth year, 15 or 16 for him.
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Now he's the third longest tenured or second longest tenured Steelers.
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It was him.
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Ben Roethlisberger's number one.
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Yeah, he is the. So Cam is now the number one non quarterback. Mike Webster, I think it's Mike Webster and then Cam, and then Cam passing this season, I believe.
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Okay, so it's Ben, then it's Cam, then it's Mike Webster. Okay, got it. So when you're talking about Steelers and then his dad, Ironhead, obviously for the Steelers. So whenever he was asking for a contract.
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Yeah.
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Before the year, all the goodwill that Cam Hayward has done in Pittsburgh, his family has done in Pittsburgh, we're talking generations of goodness to Pittsburgh. This Hayward family has done this past offseason. Whenever he was looking for a new contract, he had to like kind of hold out. Kind of was like an uncomfortable situation. Yinzers were like, hey, old man, why don't you just go out there and play? You've already made legit. There was a lot of that from Yinzers. And I'll tell you what, Cam Hayward did go out there. He put together another. Last year was all pro. This year, seemingly all pro. Last night he decided to take the game over, seemingly for different parts of it. He was tight end on the field goal on the rush side, not on the backside. So on the rush side, as if we're kicking on the right hash, probably going to bring in the rush from the left side. Cam Hayward is right in the middle of that rush. Okay. On the left side of this entire thing. Then he's also pushing his brother into the end zone for the tush push. And then on defensive line, he's jousting every single play right in the middle of everything. It's like Cam Hayward decided last night. And I'm not just saying last night, but clearly last night, because he was even doing a little talking. Yo, let's go. You know, his giant, giant body. It's like, if he can continue to get wrecked games, it's like, why not the Pittsburgh Steelers? On that note, it's time to get to our top five. Top five, top five, top five headlines coming out of the end of the NFL season. Let's start with number five. This is driven by Ram. And you know, anytime you drive a Ram, you're gonna think to yourself, wow, this thing's got a lot of power. Oh, hell, this thing's so comfortable. Wow, this thing's so easy to use. Oh, look at all the space I got. And then whenever you hit that gas pedal, it's gonna sound like. And that's gonna be that power. You know, I believe the Hemi is coming back.
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That's right.
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But I also know that the Ram truck, even if it doesn't have a Hemi, has got a stronger engine than you. Let's get to the top five. Number five. We're dancing. Okay, this is what we've been waiting for. Super wild card weekend is officially locked. It is Saturday, Sunday and Monday of magical NFL football. Now, throughout the season, you think to yourself, who's going to get to one seed? Who's going to get to two seed? Who's going to get home field advantage? Are we going to make it? Are we not going to make it? There's teams on a bubble. We need this to happen. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Baker Mayfield. A long day.
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He did, man.
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Nice house. Real nice house.
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Look like getting some work done, too.
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Yeah. Him sitting up on that island.
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Oh, yeah, he's bumped out.
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That's a good house.
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Yeah.
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Great house.
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Marble.
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You are in that bank on. I think at one point.
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Yeah, he was.
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Baker was a walk on at one point.
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What a store.
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Yeah, what a. What a store. What Literally Instagram story and metaphorically, Baker Mayfield story as a whole. He's watching along, seeing how people are doing. Everybody's waiting for something now. We got it officially locked. 14 teams make it on Saturday. Rams take on the Panthers. Rams favored by 10 and a half on DraftKings. Just five weeks ago, the Panthers beat the Rams. People will forget about that. Panthers hosting playoff game. Congrats, Carolina. Congrats, congrats. Carolina had to have something happen for him, obviously. In the other game that was happening in the NFC south between the Saints and the Falcons and congrats to them getting that done. But they have 61% of the public bets strictly because they're getting 10 and a half. They just beat them five weeks ago. This Carolina Panthers team I think could be stingy. They could come up and get you or what the books are expecting. DraftKings Expecting is this is Matthew Stafford in the playoffs now? This is whenever all the stars come out. You know, people say the biggest games create the biggest players and the biggest moments. That's why they're called the big players. Well, there's a chance that some of these stars are either coming out of the dirt or some of these stars are already there and they're going to go on a run. Matthew Stafford, Pukinakua and the boys over there in la, they're in the big lights all the time. Is this whenever they play their best or is this Carolina Panthers finally coming out and saying we're for real? A lot of people are going to be pissed that Panthers are hosting a playoff game. Their record is ass compared to a lot of other people that have gotten into the playoffs. But this Carolina Panthers team can beat anybody. And on that note, this Rams team could beat anybody last year in the playoffs. Will they be able to do that again? And Matthew Stafford's going to win the mvp it appears after a four touchdown day. D Bud.
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Yeah. Stafford has had a phenomenal year from wire to wire. And I mentioned it earlier, you know, if you're going into this playoff run with a head coach quarterback combination, you probably feel most comfortable either the Rams or the Eagles. But yeah, on the road at the Panthers team you lost against, had Mike Jackson had a pick six in that game of some weather, some other things going on. Panthers a good team, good defenders for sure. I think this would be a great matchup. 10 and a half is a lot of points, especially on the road.
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Packers, Bears, you guys split during the regular season.
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That is correct.
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How do you feel going into the playoffs? I saw Jordan Love not playing, saw Caleb doing his thing over the weekend. Your thoughts?
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As a Packers fan? I actually feel very good. Like you said, packers are limping into the playoffs worse than probably any other team in the like the entire playoff field. And you know they, they didn't, they didn't play anybody yesterday. So you worry, hey, are they going to be rusty coming in? But Chicago did play everybody like they haven't been sitting anybody at all and they didn't look great yesterday. Yeah, exactly. Against the Lions. So. And again, it's a lot of those guys for the Bears, like, this is the, this is the first time they've went to the playoffs. Like, the packers team is young, but they're experienced. Like they've been to the playoffs before. And for them, like, they know each other very well. So, yeah, as a, as a Packers fan, just like Bears fans are probably confident. I'm very confident.
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I like that we get an NFC north rivalry game right there on Saturday night. A super wild card weekend. And then, oh, yeah, we go to bed, wake up, have a little breakfast, talk to the fam, maybe go talk to God. And then all of a sudden, the Buffalo Bills are down in Duvall against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Bills favored by one and a half. I'll tell you what, we'll talk about it here in a moment. I feel for those Bills fans, what they're going through right now, big time. We'll talk about it in a little bit. They're going through it this weekend. They say goodbye to an old friend.
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That's right.
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It's always tough.
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It is. But it might not be goodbye because there is a chance technically that it could have another game. But nonetheless, Bill is taking on the Jags. I think Jags said goodbye to an old friend as well. And that friend was one that was dragging them down. The friend that they are currently friends with is one that is prosperous. Oh, yeah, the Jacksonville Jaguars are a great football team. Yeah, the Jacksonville Jaguars getting off the bus look like a great football team. When you talk about having the speed, the explosive, the power, everything you could possibly need to win a playoff game, Jacksonville Jaguars have it. Then you talk about offense. Do they have enough to be able to keep up with Josh Allen? I don't know if anybody does. Josh Allen is Josh Allen. Trevor Lawrence playing his best ball. Liam Cohen seeing it better than anybody. I watched Liam Cohen, like a fucking college football coach scream out after the 15 second play. Clock thing goes out to the thing. Hey, this guy gonna be wide ass open. Our team could hear him. Didn't matter. First down. Hey, that guy gonna be wide ass open, Trevor. You got it. Thanks. First down, wide ass open. Liam, seemingly a super genius. And the way they've been able to rebuild that in such a quick amount of time without the second overall pitch. I don't know if as many people have respect for the Jacksonville Jaguars as they should, but I'll tell you, beating the Buffalo Bills super wild card weekend to kick off Sunday would be a great way to say hello. To the world.
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D. Bud, this is a great, great matchup. I mean, I love all these matchups. This is a big time matchup. You talk about not having the respect, I guess league wide from like the casual fans. I think if you've been paying attention to football this season, you have to respect them at this point. But yeah, Trevor Lawrence, we always start with the quarterback. His turnaround since Liam got there is unbelievable. And it'll be a close, close race for coach of the year. Liam will probably get my vote because of what he did with Trevor Lawrence and that team. You know, having camp Anthony Campanelli on the defensive side of. I believe they're tied with the Bears as far as takeaways, but their numbers up and down defensively are better than the Bears. So they definitely have a chance at home against Josh Allen, who everybody's going to look at as if you don't get it done this year. Josh. I don't want to hear it.
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On that note. Patrick Mahomes, not in. Joey Burrow, not in. Lamar Jackson, not in. So is this the year Josh Allen goes on a run? New England obviously back in a big way in the AFC East. Con man, you've been saying the Bills window has been closed for like five years. You were saying it as a New England Patriots fan. But it does feel like this year would be the year. It'd be wide ass open. But they have some things on their roster that the Jacksonville Jaguars can certainly take advantage of. Con me.
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B
Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean it will be a Josh Allen or Bus type of playoffs. You know, it's kind of been that way for the entire season. He's been carrying them. Can he carry them in the playoffs? I think we all believe that he's done it for multiple, multiple massive games. And then for the Jags is the kind of the opposite. Last time they hosted a playoff game was against the Chargers at home and they ended up squeezing it out. We'll see if they can do it again.
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F
Yeah, if you look at these quarterbacks that are in the dance right now, I believe Josh Allen is second with all time playoff wins behind obviously Aaron Rodgers. So Yeah, I trust 17 in the playoffs.
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A
Trevor Lawrence has had one of the craziest playoff experiences of all time. We all watch that live. Think he threw four picks in the first half. Yeah. Came back and won in the second half. It's like, will he be able to do that again? I don't know against Josh Allen, but we shall see. San Francisco 49ers taking on the Eagles. Interesting move by the Eagles. Coach Sirianni came out and said, it's my decision is what I think. Yeah, we can disagree. Obviously there's going to be differing opinions. He said. I like my guys to be healthy and fresh. Going in the playoffs, they could have got the number two overall seed if they really went for it. Instead, they chose to rest. So now the Eagles lock in at three. They're hosting the San Francisco 49ers, who lose to the Seattle Seahawks. Seattle Seahawks might be.
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E
Hey, that's good football team.
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C
That is good football.
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A
Hey, they're not a part of super wild card. We can still in it. Yeah. Great football team. Congrats to them. And to the Denver Broncos, by the way. Number one seeds across the board, but Niners, Eagles. Any quick thoughts on how this one should play out?
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C
I mean, they kind of had bad blood previously from the last time that the Eagles went to the Super Bowl. Like, so I don't know if this is like a budding rivalry, but it's tough because we were talking about the Niners, you know, being the. One of the hottest teams in the NFL going into this. I think the Eagles are the one team, though, who, like, we've kind of just packed them in. Like, I. I would not be surprised at all if the Eagles start to play their best football when the playoffs start. And I think they're still as likely as any team in the NFC to go to the Super Bowl.
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A
80% of the bet sitting on the San Francisco 49ers plus three and a half. What's that mean, Tone?
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E
I think it's just because, like the talk all season long is how bad the Eagles have looked, even though they are what they are and the offense has not looked great and then they don't look great. Yesterday against the Commanders, I. San Francisco obviously didn't look great against the. Against the Seahawks on Saturday night, but they had been on a run with Brock Purdy where the offense had looked really, really good. So I think it's just like a recency bias thing in this situation.
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A
How about Sam Darnold, though? Just quick. I don't want to move past it too much because we need to give him some credit. Some of the biggest moments, he made, the biggest plays and they were completions to his own team.
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B
That's right.
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A
Yep. That needs to be talked about.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Congrats, Sam. Congrats, Sam.
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E
14 wins back to back.
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F
You.
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A
Is Jalen going to be first guy ever?
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E
Paul Brady.
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A
Okay. Yeah.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Pretty good. Pretty good company. I would like to say, get it off. Get the monkey off his back. He did it to get the number one overall seed in a big moment, made it. Now, they ran the ball very well and obviously the way they scripted that entire thing was very beneficial to a quarterback, as it should be. Maybe others should have done that in the past, but whenever he needed to make a couple, I mean, he made a couple. Good for Sam Darnold doing his thing. And congrats to the Seattle Seahawks. If Jalen Hurts can play as well as Sam Darnold can play against that Niners defense, the Eagles move on.
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F
In my eyes, that's a big if. I've seen Jalen Hurts do it on this stage multiple times, multiple years, a couple Super Bowls. I've seen Sirianni and I've damn sure seen that defense, who have been playing well, kind of take it to another level. So I feel very confident about my Philadelphia Eagles in this matchup. Brock Purdy coming off being held to three points after that hot run before running into that Seahawks defense kind of concerns me as well. And Coach Ba sat here a few weeks ago and talked about Brock Purdy in these outdoor kind of late season environments. I don't know what the weather will be in Philly on Sunday, but for all those things, I feel very confident with the Eagles.
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A
Okay. And then Chargers Patriots wrap up Saturday Night Football. I cannot wait for this one. Now the Chargers basically chose to be the number seven seed, rested their players could have stolen and not been this seed take on the Patriots. Now New England can obviously utilize that. I will say this, following this Patriots team for the last three years has been a blast with this guy. Okay. Alongside Connor Campbell, Boston Connor is a Patriots die hard. I think there is no faking that. I think that is his life. I think we have experienced it. There was times where we thought maybe his team was going to stink for the rest of his life and that he was just going to have to try to relive the memories of when he was just a boy and the New England Patriots were good. This man was going to parades over the span of his first 20 years of his existence. Then all of a sudden, maybe it never happens again. He's gonna have to tell his little baby boy and baby girl and maybe even grandbaby and grandbabies. Grandbabies say there was a time when the Patriots ran this whole damn thing. There was a thought that that was gonna take place for all Patriots fans everywhere. Connor Campbell more specifically. But instead, somehow the Tennessee Titans. Good luck to whoever gets hired There. I'm sure it's gonna go great. Mm, yikes. They kick him out the door. He sits in Cleveland for a year and somehow, lo and behold, the team that he played for, the team that he loves, the team that he's in the hall of Fame for, the team that he's in the ring of honor with, he has an opening all of a sudden, because they fire a coach after one year, one and done, just like Pete Carroll had. He comes in there, flips the entire thing and, oh, yeah, they got an MVP candidate in his second year at the age of 23. And the offensive coordinator. Yeah, he's been ahead coach before. It sucks. He doesn't like it. He just wants to be a coordinator. This Patriots seems back in a big way, and Saturday night's the chance to really say it for real. Has Drake been able to do it in the playoffs? Has Drake been able to do it in the playoffs? That's the question we find out Saturday night against this. What's that?
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B
Saturday night, Sunday.
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A
I'm so sorry. So sorry. I said it multiple times. Sorry, let me get jacked up. Sunday night. I apologize.
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B
It doesn't feel like Saturday.
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A
Yeah, well, every day feels like Saturday. Right now it does. Sunday night, Chargers and Patriots. But the Chargers team hit or miss. Feels like. Like we've seen him play very good. We've seen him not play so good. Who shows up against the New England Patriots? I guess we find out. You have to feel great to be in the dance with a real shot at this thing.
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B
Yeah, I feel incredible. I mean, you go from 3 and 14 or, sorry, 4 and 13 to, you know, 14 and 3 over the span of one year. That. That's going to get your juices flowing. You're going to be bricked up no matter what. What really gets me, you know, going, is the fact that last time the Patriots won the super bowl, it was 2018. Who do they play in that first round? The LA Chargers. And I believe they were LA. I don't even think they were San Diego yet. Phil Rivers flew all the way over. Another kicker there, too, who led the Patriots on that little bit of a run. Sony Michelle, rookie running back. So we kind of have rookie running back right now, Trevion Henderson. There's a lot of parallels between the two. In reality, I think what you mentioned is going to be a huge message. Hey, the Chargers could have easily been the sixth seed. They chose to bench everybody, not play anybody, have a little mini bye week. They chose to kind of move down to that seven seed in order to come and play you guys. Now, maybe they didn't want to go to Jacksonville again because they did blow a 28 nothing lead in Jacksonville. So they said, hey, we can't go there anymore. Not doing that. Let's go to Foxborough. Play variables, boys. I feel fantastic. I think the MVP fodder will be awesome this week as well. Up until, you know, basically until the Super Bowl February 5th when it gets announced. But that will be a motivator. Everyone getting healthy for the Patriots this past week. I mean, we just beat the absolute dog shit out of the Miami Dolphins with Milton Williams coming back, highest paid player on the team. Will Campbell coming back, leading the way on multiple rushing touchdowns. Afton Chisholm, the third superstar kind of budding for the New England Patriots. And Stefon diggs getting 1000 yard receiving again after kind of going through a little bit of an ACL and some other things. But it does feel as though the Patriots are rolling in all directions. It is a great feeling to be back on the biggest stage and hosting playoff games. I mean, we're talking about a chance where they're hosting two, maybe three playoff games on their way to a Super Bowl. I mean, it's remarkable that you can flip a team in a culture like this. And you mentioned it, you know, on a day like today, Black Monday, where coaches and GMs are getting fired. Just keep in mind, look, look to the New England Patriots, look to the Jacksonville Jaguars, look to these teams, Chicago Bears, that were absolute shite and in one year flipped it. I mean, we're talking about teams that can legitimately go and win the super bowl because of a few changes.
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A
And Vrabel, I think we all thought was going to be great coach, knew he's going to be a great coach. Ben Johnson all knew he was going to be a great coach, right? It felt like everybody thought he was going to be a great coach. Liam Cohen came out of nowhere. That was a late hire. Nobody really knew. Remember, he wasn't even going to be able to put together a staff. They were trying to slander his name pretty good. It was hard not to talk a lot of about that. But then you see what they're able to do. It's like, like if you find a good leader, there is a chance you can flip an entire culture. These are all NFL players. If you're able to rally an entire building in the same direction, you're able to get into the dance. And obviously Tamiko, Ryan's and Casario have been able to do that down in Houston multiple times. C.J. stroud might be playing his best ball. And then they play against Pittsburgh Steelers at home on Monday night. Steelers obviously impossible to beat on Monday Night Football. Okay, Is that change whenever it's the playoffs and does that matter? How does that matter? How is that a real thing? I genuinely want to know that.
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F
I mean, I don't think it matters. You know, every. Every game is its own game. We obviously been in those buildings. We have those stats. Whether it's, hey, we start slow as a team or prime time or whatever it is, but the game is going to be the game once again. Another great matchup. I can't wait to see this Houston Texans defense on prime time. That defense again. And then you mentioned, you mentioned CJ Scott playing some good ball as well. So, yeah, it's going to be another banger. I mean, this whole slate, man. I mean, you couldn't really. You could be for a better slate.
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B
Fantastic.
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A
That's why Super Wild Card weekend has become must watch. Maybe best weekend of ball that there is all year. Obviously. Super bowl weekend. Sweet. There's only one game. Championship weekend. Sweet. Because there's so much on the line. Divisional rounds.
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B
Cool.
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A
The fact that we get two, three and one here of all meaningful football with great football teams. It's beautiful.
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B
So beautiful.
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F
College football playoffs right before. We got to enjoy these boys.
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B
It's a dream.
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F
We got to enjoy this time.
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A
Let's close our eyes.
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C
I don't even feel like I deserve it.
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A
Every once in a while you gotta do that.
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E
Hell yeah.
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A
Just kind of take it in. We're here. Let's go. Number four. Headline coming out of the NFL season. Goodbye to the Ralph. I guess since 2021 it's been called High Mark Stadium. Blue Cross Blue Shield. The new stadium will be High Mark Stadium, right across the way. This has been home of the Buffalo bills since 1973.
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C
Wow.
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A
All the documentaries and stories that you hear about the Buffalo Bills come from the Ralph. I was very lucky that I got a chance during my career to play a Lambo. I got a chance to play a candlestick. I got a chance to play at that one place out there in Oakland. What's the name of Coliseum.
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B
Coliseum.
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A
Coliseum. I got a chance to play in a lot. Yeah, the Black Hole. I got a chance to play in a lot of places that are football movies. Playing in the Ralph. My rookie year in the middle of a blizzard. Felt like I was in the middle of a football movie. Place is obviously very special. I had a Lot on the line that game, although all my teammates did not. It was very fast. We were attempting to lose that game. Try to. It was the end of our undefeated season that we had. For me, I had to have a couple inside 20, had to average over something to get a million dollar escalator, which is obviously the most amount of money that I could ever fathom in my life. So it was a joy to be there. Obviously thankful for everything the Buffalo Bills people have done for football as a whole. You're talking about a passionate, loyal. I don't even know if there's any other place that has gone through what fans have gone through to remain the fans, let alone the four falls. Yeah, okay. Heartbreak after heartbreak after heartbreak kind of happening with the Ravens right now. Just not at the super bowl level. That was all at the super bowl level for the Ravens end of season. The last four years is just heartbreak, heartbreak, heartbreak, heartbreak, heartbreak. But whenever you talk about the Bills, the weather, digging out your own seats, having to get to this place in the back of tractors, and then what they do every single time they show up up is be the best fan base that you could have. It's like congrats to Buffalo. Congrats to the Ralph on a hell of a run. And the scenes coming out after the game here, this is from Jason McCordy. He was calling the game where nobody left. And they just relive some of the greatest moments of the Ralph. Now, some people, I assume, are very tuned up and blacked out at this moment and will not remember this other than some of the pictures, hopefully people have of them out there. But it's like this is special fan base, special place. And obviously their next stadium is going to be awesome with big ass Bison out front. But I like whenever people get emotional about something, and they certainly did about the Ralph, I think that's a beautiful thing.
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B
Yeah, it just shows you how much, you know, football means to the people of Buffalo and just fans in general. Like in that Sal Capaccio tweet. I mean, there's a security lady who's been there for 32 years. That is so long just to be at one place in general, let alone work at one place like that, that's remarkable. But also to keep in mind for the people of Buffalo, these new stadiums are remarkable. They are so nice.
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A
You're going to love it.
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B
You're going to love it. Okay. After you get over that, this. After you get over this heartbreak and hopefully the people are there. Got to yank something out of that stadium. To keep forever in their base.
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A
Might have another game in there.
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B
Yeah, might have another game there. Still host the Chargers in the AFC championship. But you're gonna love this new High Mark Stadium. It's gonna be gorgeous.
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A
Yeah, it was a perfect night. Cold as hell. Obviously a great way to send off. I. I wish there was a little bit more snow in there, you know, so you could feel it. And once I read Sal Capaccio's tweet, I completely forgot, like, oh, it is gonna be an emotional day. Especially for Sal Capaccio.
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C
Yeah, especially for Sal.
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A
Especially for Sal. But there's a lot of sows up there in Buffalo. That's where Buffalonians, brother. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of good Buffalonians up there. And it reminded me of whenever I was a child and they tore down the igloo. They did this downtown Pittsburgh. They tore down the igloo. And I'll tell you what, I was. I was bummed out alongside everybody else. This is the home of the Pittsburgh Penguins. And they just went ahead and just took that thing down. They showed it across the entire city whenever they started. Now, now you'll see there's four different winners that came and went while these things were being tearing down. That's not how I remember it in my head at all. I think I had a little Mandela effect in my head. They imploded that thing and we all got out of school for it. That's how my head remembered it. And then we got to send it in there. Turns out they took their sweet ass time. Somebody had a good contract on this thing and they go, they went ahead and say, we're going another 12 months or so. We're going to, you know, 12 months or so. Whatever the case days. The city of Pittsburgh was very emotional whenever this went down. Three Rivers, Same exact thing. Very emotional. It's like the Ralph. I can understand it. I appreciate it. And we had one this weekend, Tone.
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E
Yeah, we did. And it's like I remember waking up and watching the implosion of Three River Stadium. It was like everyone was down there. It was like. It was.
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B
It was something.
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E
And I remember when we were growing up, a kid in your grade actually had a stadium seats from Three Rivers in his basement.
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A
It was Shout out, Josh. Rolling.
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C
Thank you.
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B
Yep.
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E
You knew, like, that was like something that happened. I'm sure that was something that happened in Buffalo yesterday. It's just like so many memories in that place. And like, when you think about something, you think about these stadiums, like, it's not just like the football, but like you go there with family, like it's a family tradition and the tailgates and everything like that. It's an emotional day for sure.
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A
Yeah. I'll tell you what, the reason why I knew was Josh Walnuts. He had a couple ping pong tournaments in that basement. Boom. Get a game winner. Pretty exhausted. Guys sit down in three rooms right next to the. Yeah. The amount of. Of being talked too at that entire thing. Josh Rowan, a great dude, great family. And also his dad loved collecting that type.
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E
Shout out Stu.
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A
Yeah, shout out Stu. It wasn't just. I mean he had. I think you probably find a piece of Mary Lemu's hair down here if you really had to. Good people, good times. Nothing stops Ram.
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B
Boom.
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A
Best truck. Dang the line. Let's go to the number three headline, Miles Gar Mor. Congrats, Miles. We thought he was going to get this a couple weeks earlier. Obviously he was on a wrecking path to kind of make this happen. He's been all over the field and we know of Myles Garrett's greatness strictly because we've gotten a chance to witness it. It is a shame though. Much like Joe Thomas, the teams he has played on for the Cleveland Browns have been ass whenever you're a goat. Now they paid him 40 million a year, reset the entire market because they understand his greatness. He at one point was worried that he didn't win enough games and he wanted to win more games. He's not worried about getting into the hall of Fame. Now he signs on to be a Cleveland Brown pillar in his first year post brand new contract in which he resets the entire market. He breaks the sack record now it did take 17 games as opposed to 16 games. Heard Michael Strahan talk about that. I think that's a very real argument that's going to happen as football continues to go. Adam Vinatieri, all time leader in points 16 game season. I think at some point somebody's going to come with these extra games and potentially catch them. Nonetheless, very impressive, very pumped. And Strahan might come up up to Joe Burrow someday.
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F
No.
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A
And say screwed me. Oh yeah. I think he was going to get him regardless. I think Joe knew that. But people are saying Joey laid down for him.
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F
I mean, yeah, I understand it. I Joe. We've all seen what Joe has been through health wise and getting to the last game of the season. He probably saw 95 getting off the ball from his periph and knew he probably had no chance of getting out of. But this was awesome. This was cool. His dad been in the crowd, you know, with this camera, and it looked like he got emotional. I don't even know if he had a chance to get a picture because he was so jacked up once he finally got the Sack. And in 17 games, that'll be a conversation. But then there will be other people that say this amount of snaps and all the stats that we have now around it. But we've all watched Mob's gear and he has been one of, if not the most dominant defender in his generation. You know, from wide, from coming into the league as the number one overall pick. He's lived up to all the stuff, man. He's just an unbelievable player. Great person for that city. Hopefully they can build a winner around him, but he's a great pillar to build around.
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A
Hopefully they're able to. Honestly, there's a lot of change happening in Cleveland as we speak. Who knows what the next iteration looks like. Like, Mark Gasano had a hell of a run. Okay, The New York sack exchange. Doug Martin did his thing, obviously, Strahan comes in and T.J. watt, and then Miles Garrett. Congratulations to all these dudes for being incredible on a football field. Gasno, you're ahead of your time. Yeah, he was back to Bass here.
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B
She one of the goats.
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A
Ahead of your time, dude. Let's go to the number two headline coming out of the NFL season, shall we?
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B
Yeah. The only thing with that Myles Garrett thing, okay, Just. Just for Zach Taylor to go up there after the game and say, we're fighting for our fricking lives, dude.
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A
No one's watching this game.
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B
No one's watching this game unless you're watching it.
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A
What are you talking about?
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B
Well, the whole entire thing. You know, he was pretty upset and Jamar Chase mentioned as well. I don't think he was upset as Zach Taylor was. You know, they kind of stopped the game for Miles Garrett to celebrate and enjoy this and this historic moment that may never happen again. Now, granted, like you said, 17 games, eventually, maybe the season goes 18 games.
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A
Still got it. Not his fault.
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B
Yeah, not his fault.
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A
It's certainly a conversation.
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B
Certainly a conversation. And Once it goes 18 games and someone breaks this record, guess what's going to happen? They're going to stop the game. Because it's history in the NFL. The only thing anybody will ever remember from the Bengals season, probably, or the Brown season in the 2025 NFL season was Myles Garrett got the sack record in Cincinnati against the. Against the Bengals. So for. For some of the people to be upset. Upset about, you know, them stopping the game or everything. Like, that's ridiculous. May we remind you, when Drew Brees broke the NFL passing record, this is what happened. Okay.
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A
Monday Night Football.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Only game on.
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B
And also this record got broken maybe a year later. Look what they did. They. The refs, I think, took off their hats and took knees to shake his hand. I think the coach of the other team walked over and said, hey, Drew. True. Congratulations. Now, whether that was Ron Rivera or not, who knows? But still, look at what happened for Drew Brees. They did a. He basically won the Super Bowl.
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A
They brought a podium out, as they should. I don't gave a speech.
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C
He did the one for me, two for you. He did that whole thing.
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A
Three for us. Yeah, exactly.
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F
This is doing a break.
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A
No, no show.
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B
No break.
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A
This is on the game.
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F
Oh, yeah.
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A
It's like whenever legendary NFL records get broken, you know, passing sacking.
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C
Right.
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A
I would assume rushing.
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B
I bet Emmett Smith had some.
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F
Oh, yeah, yeah.
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A
These big ones, the huge one. There's going to be a moment of holy hell. This league's been around a long time. There's been a lot of great players, and obviously this impact. Family. Family's about to walk on the field. It's second quarter. So I think a lot of people probably judge this moment as well. And then the NFL came out and was like, hey, this is a huge deal, man. Like, we would like our players to know. Know that if you become. What?
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F
I don't remember it.
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C
Yes.
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A
Yeah, all of it. This happened. Yes, this did happen. I mean, look at the jumbo truck. All time pass yard leader. Congratulations. I mean, they stopped. This is second quarter.
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F
As you should game.
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A
Yes, they should. The game happened. This game has been going on a long time. And for you to break one of this. David Baker. Probably burns on it. Shout out to David Baker. All right.
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E
Anyways, he played left tackle actually right after this.
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A
Yeah, well, they needed a guy. Obviously, they had somebody get hurt. They end up winning the game. David Baker, obviously playing tackle for you is a good place to be. But nonetheless, whenever these big records happen, there has been precedent already set that we are going to celebrate it in the moment. And, yeah, I didn't like Miles catching a little hell there for getting Rudy.
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B
Yeah.
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C
I was going to say, if you would have been like, you know, listen, stopping the game's one thing for them to, you know, put them on their shoulders and take them off the goddamn field like Rudy. That's. That's another thing.
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A
All right, let's go to the second headline coming out of the NFL season, a most valuable momentum shift. Matthew Stafford is now the MVP favorite. I appreciate that we put Matt on the graphic. You know, even though he is a Matthew Stafford, mad respect for what Matthew has been able to accomplish this late into his career. He is now 180. We had a conversation last week with Dan Orlovsky. Dan Orlofsky said Matthew staff, what are we? Yeah, right. Hard players, hard competition. Everything he's done, this is Matthew Staffords. We said you're just kind of throwing Drake Main out because he played against bad teams is what you're saying. Yeah, strength of schedule has to matter. Then he throws four touchdowns against the Arizona Cardinals and the conversation is it.
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B
Was a good football team.
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A
Cardinals good football team. You know, so you can obviously cat dog chase tail situation its entirety. What we know is if you're in the MVP conversation, you've had a fantastic year. And Matthew Stafford I think did put a stamp on it this past weekend throwing for four touchdowns. Now when you look at the stage stats, it's absurd what Matthew Stafford's been able to do. When you look at what the Rams are able to do offensively, it's crazy. And tone, you're a voter. One of these votes have to go in and you've been saying this entire time I want to look at the entire 17 game picture.
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E
Yeah, they have to be in by 3pm today. Obviously the award will be announced Thursday before the Super bowl. Going into week 17, Stafford was the favorite and then he had that bad game against the Falcons and Drake May had a all time game against the Giant jets. And then this weekend obviously it flips again. So it's like these last two weeks have been monumental towards this race. I just didn't, I didn't like, like the, the oh, it has to be this guy or it has to be this guy. Both these guys have had unbelievable years. 46 to 8 is absurd for Stafford. And then Drake may 35 and 8 with his, with his rushing yards and with his rushing touchdowns too. Like they're both absurd. Drake May leads the league in completion percentage and then average distance per target. Like to have those two things.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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E
Drake May is the best on third down too. Like both of these quarterbacks are very, very deserving. Just like last year, both the quarterbacks, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen were very, very deserving. I don't like people putting down either to make the case for their guy, but that's just how it is these days. But like either I Don't wouldn't be surprised if either of them won.
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Well and that's the other thing. Like as a Patriots fan I feel like if you just do take a step back and realize like Matthew Stafford has never really been in the MVP conversation. He's never really been. I don't know if he's ever been all pro like Drake Mays 23. Hopefully he will be back here no matter what the schedule is. But Matt Stafford does deserve it in his own right. Especially when what's the most important thing? Scoring touchdowns. And you know, people have been throwing shade on the 151 yard touchdown passes but that doesn't matter. You know, like just because they're one yard doesn't mean, you know, that's not an unbelievable ball. How many times have we shown thrown Devonte Adams, you know, him throwing it in the perfect spot where only Devonte can get it like that should help his case in many senses. I mean in this case Pukinaku a great play but still it is just. It feels as though Stafford should win it this year.
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Pukinaku is up for an award or two as well. You could have a couple awards heading to the Los Angeles Rams this season. And the crazy part about it all is it's been a rebuild after rebuild after rebuild out there for LA and seemingly still have their pillars, still have their stuff studs and obviously still have a chance to win. To Lombardi.
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Yeah, Mr. Stafford has just been unbelievable and he, what is he, 37, 36 this year, however old and him being with Sean McVeigh, obviously they're on the same page and just coming into each and every game damn near seems like he was always in full control and throwing those touchdown passes, leading yards, all the different things like you said to either one of these guys could win it. But Matt Stafford, with the questions that we had about his health coming into this year, the rebuild kind of around him, him bringing in Devontae, like people can talk about those, you know, 1 yard touchdowns. That's hard to get on the same page with a receiver like that, especially down there. Everyone would do it, you know, the same way people look at Tush push like everyone could do it. Everyone would do it if everyone could do it. So that's a tough, a tough spot to be in. But Matt Stafford has been phenomenal wide. So is Drake May. But this, I mean I'm not surprised that Matt Stafford is the I guess.
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Slight favorite at this point as 2009 draft classes.
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F
Yep.
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Me and Darius, we'd like to say Hell yeah, man.
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F
Hell yeah.
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Hell yeah.
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That's a damn good dog. Damn good dog there.
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Matthew Stafford now valuable. And we talked about it last week, and then J.J. watt, you know, went again yesterday. Drake May is definitely more valuable to his team than Matt Stafford.
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F
Why would you say that?
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I mean, you just mentioned one of the guys Devonte Adams Scott brought in. You mentioned Puka Nakua maybe winning offensive player of the year.
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Two running backs right now, balling over there.
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They're pretty good.
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That was the argument.
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Henry.
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Okay, go ahead, Travio.
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Josh McDan, like, they got good coaches.
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Hunter. Hunter.
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Puking weapons. Yeah. Who would you take, Puka or Stefan Dicks?
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F
I would take Puka.
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B
Would you take Devonte or Stefan Diggs?
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I don't know.
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No.
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There you go.
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Up for what is Puk up for?
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Offensive player.
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And I think he's got pretty good odds. I think he's.
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Yeah, he's second behind JSN, who's had a historic season.
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Okay, so. And Christian McAffrey also in this entire conversation. I mean, there's a lot of great players. A lot of great players. And Matthew Stafford hops into that trailer during training camp, comes out spinning it. $140,000 bed. Is that what they said?
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B
Holy.
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It doesn't look comfort.
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It doesn't look comfortable either.
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A
What's that?
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The bed doesn't look comfortable either.
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D
What?
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F
So we had eyes on the bed.
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E
There's no cushion. There's no pat.
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I don't see your whole body. I don't think we've seen the actual bed. We've seen a 3D graphic, I think, of what the bed is. Right. I don't think they've shown us what the actual bed looks like. I think we have a. In theory, this is what the bed looks like. And it's Matthew Stafford laying down. And there's this red light therapy everywhere. And then he's laying on a thing, and then they say it vibrates you to the proper medium or whatever the hell you're supposed to get. Then there's a red light thing that you're supposed to get. Get. Then there's a temperature thing, a sound thing. It's basically just cures your entire body. 140,000. Don't. Don't you worry about it. I have thought about purchasing a few of these things. It looks cool. It looks very cool. And if you have a hurt back, then you go in that thing and then you become an MVP of 37. I'm thinking about maybe we need to lay our ass. Sold. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. They've had a hell of a run, that amortal group. And then let's get to the number one headline for this particular overreaction. Monday. It's Black Monday. Folks are getting fired and folks are staying, right?
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F
Sure are.
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A
There's always a yin to a yen. There's always a zig to a zag. You know, some teams see what happened in New England, in Chicago and Jacksonville, and think to themselves, well, if we just make a little bit of a shift here, we can go on a potential Lombardi run. And then other places say, we like our guys.
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B
Hell, yeah.
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The Bengals have said, we like our guys. Zach Daly, Taylor and Duke Tobin sticking around for the Cincinnati Bengals. Now, it was reported late into the season that these two have contracts for at least another year. And that made everybody think to themselves, bengals aren't paying multiple contracts, so they are going to stay. Indianapolis Colts Shane Steichen, head coach, and Chris Ballard, general manager, will be sticking around. That announcement came 35 seconds after losing our eighth straight football game here in Indianapolis, which means the decision was already made before the game even started. The outcome against the Houston Texans, who obviously have an incredible football team, really didn't matter to what was going to happen in the future. Now, I will say this about the Indianapolis Colts. I am a Chris Ballard fan. I love the human Chris Ballard. He has been nothing but good to us, to the city of Indianapolis. I think the organization at the time, whenever he got in there, kind of piecing everything back together after all the hell that had been taking place and the mistrust and everything that happens, okay, now this is going to be 10 years, no AFC south championships, and nobody really talks about the AFC south being, you know, like a juggernaut. Okay? No offense to Houston. Over the years, they're back, which even more so. No offense to Jacksonville. Over the years, they're back even more so. Part of the conversation. And Tennessee Titans stink. Stink. But they had Fable there for a while, so they were good for a bit. But it's like. Like the lack of success for the Indianapolis Colts is alarming, I think, for Colts fans. For them to decide just that quickly after the last game of the season to stick with the same people that have done this entire time. Now, every single season, there is valid excuses. Valid. I mean, Danny Dimes had us as the number one team in the league. We were 8 and 1. And then all of a sudden, he comes back after Bayou, has a fractured fibula, he can't move. It's like, well, moving was a massive piece of his offense. So once we lose him though, everybody else just kind of says, yeah, we're done. We stink. Offensive line can't really move people anymore. Jonathan Taylor not really able to do what he was able to do because when Danny Dimes was playing, I think there was more eyes on him than it was on Jonathan Taylor. The defense couldn't get a stop. People got hurt. We traded away two ones for Sauce Gardner. Haven't really seen them on the field. So everything kind of just collapses in on itself this year. And it's like, were they waiting for a reason to make an excuse or is there actual excuses every year? I think there is actual excuses every single year year. But boy, are we just going to continue to do that. Feels like the Colts are saying yes. Carly speaks at 2:30 officially to break it all down.
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Okay, so give us some more definite answers. But I was surprised, just like you were to hear that they were coming back right after the season was ended. I would thought there would be some sit downs, some conversations, maybe some interviews. But yeah, I thought Chris Ballard did some great things this offseason. I was very excited. Didn't see what Danny Dimes did this year. Obviously you got banged by up. You can't control injuries, but every team deals with injuries. To have that seven game slide at the end of the season, that was very, very tough. And then when you do take that chance to go and trade too for Sauce Gardner, if he comes in balls and he's the reason you go and win the super bowl, it looks great. But if it goes how it goes, it looks terrible, man. So bring it. Bringing them back, bringing them both back, it's definitely a decision. I know a lot of people get excited when you just clean house and start over, but we've seen teams kind of just be in that MO every two or three years, so. So the big three kind of, I guess, taking their time to see how it all plays out, I guess I get that side of it too. And here we are, we got another year, see if we can figure it out.
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Hey, if you were to run back what I said on this day last year, just go ahead and do it again. We found a couple of the same the good pieces to bring a culture like, I think Danny Dimes up the culture like, I think whenever he got in here, I think he changed some things. I think Cam Bynum, whenever he came in, his energy changed some things. I think there was some accountability. I think there was some professionalism that got brought into the building because we had heard what had been happening in the past. It's almost like guys gave up up and they stop being pros. Late, the meetings, missing this, missing that. It's like, that's not what winning teams do. Like, that's not how it goes. This year. Everything was great. Everything was great. Then an injury at a quarterback slows us down. But then just losing every single game, it's like, oh, is there any fight? Like what? How does that happen? We'll see next.
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F
That's when everything else supposed step up defense, the run game, offensive line, like, you got to figure out a way.
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We don't have any ones this year or next year. As we rebuild it, I think we got some pieces that could potentially move. Good moves, good pieces.
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You just got to think that, like, with you look at Ballard's resume, 31 other teams probably would have fired him after, like his fifth or sixth year and he's going into year 10, which is crazy to think.
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Well, there's six coaches who have been fired already. We assume there will be more. Good luck to all these men as they try to find new homes and their families. Obviously that's a whole piece of it, but organizations are trying to get to the Lombard party. Who will make it? Who won't? We will continue on the other side. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change their life. Hey, fans. Welcome back to fansville's cheers and tears. Okay, so like, everybody deals with losing, right? To a rival and a last second field goal, whatever.
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G
It's fine.
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A
I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice cold Dr. Pepper. Mmm. Those 23 flavors are, like, so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of your college football team taking a big fat L. College football. It's a pepper thing.
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G
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Football, a is the greatest. The NFL just wrapped up its season. Congrats to them. Now we head into the playoffs where it matters more. College football playoffs all. We got a couple semifinals games happening on Thursday and Friday of this week. Then we got super wild card weekend. Friday they are Saturday and Sunday and Monday we got big time football right around the corner. Five straight days of it. We cannot wait to be on the sidelines both in Arizona on Thursday for the Fiesta bowl and Atlanta on Friday for the Peach Bowl. Miami takes on Ole Miss. Hey, that Ole Miss store. Yeah. Get more and more awesome. Don't look now as the day rolls on. And then that Miami team, Ole Miss knows this. They're ready for it. They're one of the final four teams in college ball. Miami's coming to fight you. I mean Miami is coming to fight you. You better hope that you have the one ref crew that we were not at that was actually calling penalties because all these other ref crews that we have seen for the college football playoffs are very good at what they do and very committed to letting the board. I mean that has just been kind of the mo of these college football playoffs refs in Miami is a physical ball club. I know Ole Miss is ready for it, but we can't wait for that over there at the Fiesta Bowl. And then we'll travel over to Atlanta for the Peach bowl as two Big Ten teams will try to punch their ticket to a national championship. Now you listen to some Big Ten people. They say, don't we think Indiana Oregon should be on two sides? Big Ten has been the most dominant conference. We should at least have an all Big Ten national championship if we want it. But the conversation instead is at least one Big Ten team will be in the national championship. Will it be the Oregon Ducks Sco Ducks. Or will it be the Indiana Hoosiers? We'll be talking to Fernando Mendoza in about 30 minutes or so. Cannot wait to catch up with him. What a storybook year he has had. Obviously Heisman winner, number one overall pick in the upcoming draft. Can he continue to lead the undefeated Indiana team to a national championship? We shall see as he takes on a great Oregon Ducks team. From all the way in. Eugene talks to tables here at Boston. Connor at Ty Schmidt, 1/2 of the hammer done Cowboys AP Tony is here. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here.
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F
Yes sir.
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A
Good to see you, D Bucks. It's a great time to be a football fan.
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F
Oh yeah.
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What do you do if you're not a football fan right now? That's so stupid. Learn a lot about Venezuela. I think we're all kind of doing that as we speak. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, from Anatican, Ohio, a man who's a college football national champion, super bowl champion, Ryder cup winner, ladies and gentlemen, AJ Haw Yay. Hey AJ we're all leering a lot about Venezuela. You Know, it's kind of getting into all of our algorithms, even though we are sports people. But football is about to infiltrate the entire world. The biggest games are about to be five days, back to back to back to back to back. I can't wait for it. How do you feel as we head into the most important time for football?
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D
I mean, obviously I'm pumped with the college football playoffs that we will be at both of them. That's going to be amazing. Amazing. But yeah, the. The NFL playoffs, like, how they shaped up that game last night was awesome. Whether you're a fan of the Ravens or the Steelers or neither team, like, at least it was an awesome football game that came down to the wire.
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Yeah. Not just down to the wire. Down to the wire, down to the wire, down to the wire, down to the wire, you know, and it was like, Aaron makes huge play. Lamar makes huge play. BOSWELL Never misses, Mrs. Tyler Loop. This kid seemingly very good. I think they've only attempted like 4 kicks past 50, so I wonder about the leg straight strength. You know, I do wonder about the decision making process in it all and how he goes forward. This can be a big mental hurdle for this guy for the rest of his career if he's able to bounce back. Because I assume the people of Baltimore have not been very kind to Tyler. Oh, man. I assume it has not been the most. It's part of it. Luke knows that, though. He knows that. That's a part of it. There's only 32 kickers. You need to make your kicks whenever you have your opportunity. Even though I have missed and everybody else that has ever kicked the ball has missed, including Adam Venatori. This is going to be a part of his development. Will it be with the Baltimore Ravens going forward? Will he be able to handle it? Will he be able to bounce back? We shall see. And what do the Ravens look like going forward? Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL Insider for espn, friend of the program, a guy who cut a great promo on Saturday about what he was going to talk about on Sunday. NFL Countdown. Adam Schefter.
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B
Yeah.
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Working the phones. Shefty's in the middle of it, obviously. I got stuff going on. I did want to show off the watch that I have and the ring. I don't know if he knows that. He is currently live on our show.
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H
I don't hear anything.
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B
Hello?
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It doesn't hear anything. We hear you, Shafty. We hear you, brother.
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F
I'm clear.
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Chef. You sounded great. You're a keyboard. Actually, I didn't know. He's old school. Typewriter.
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B
Typewriter.
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Is that what that was?
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That was the coolest he's ever looked.
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You think? Because he's so cash.
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B
That was unbelievable.
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Because he's working on the other side. Like, this is what it look like. Want to showcase the watch to the world, ladies and gentlemen? Cool. Adam Schefter.
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I don't know what the audio issues are.
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A
Can you hear us right now or no?
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H
I hear you.
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Yeah.
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H
You look.
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You look so cool. You need to know that. You look so cool there with your watch. Casual, looking off as you're typing on a typewriter, it sounded like. And getting everything done. Let's dive right into it. We know that you have a political show to get on in 15 minutes. Shefty. Okay. So, Jonathan Gannon.
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H
I know that I'm running for mayor of New York City.
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A
You should. We would love that. Without. Yeah, I don't know if you're gonna be able to get it from my understanding. I don't even want to get it into that.
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C
Yeah.
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I only want to get into mayor of New York City talk. But nonetheless, we know that there's been six coaches fired already. Most recently, Jonathan Gannon. Obviously, Pete Carroll announces a one and done. Stefanski felt like you and every other insider knew going into yesterday that Stefanski was probably done. Raheem Morris comes out of nowhere, and then obviously the two during the season. Which one of these firings, the last four there was most surprising. And why did you guys all know that Stefanski was probably on his way out?
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H
You know, listen, there are a lot of calls. I happen to think when I did the report on ESPN yesterday, you know, a couple of things. I. I put Shane Steichen, Raheem Morris, Jonathan Gannon, and Todd Bowles in the category. I lean safe on all of them because you're talking to people within the teams, and they give you the sense that they think they want to keep them, they want to do that. And then ultimately, push comes to shove in the end, and you say, oh, well, Jonathan Gannon's lost nine straight games, and their defense has given up an average of over 30. And like it seems obvious now, Raheem Morris, that was a little surprising. I expected the general manager to be let go, but I think what happened there is the Falcons just wanted to overhaul their entire organization, and Raheem got swept up in that, and he's out. Stefanski, I don't know. It's just calls, instincts, reading between the lines. I don't know. I can't speak for everybody, but I had him out yesterday because I, I believed he was going to be out, and I believe he's going to be one of the top candidates in his coaching cycle, too. And yesterday we talked about John Harbaugh, like everyone talking in about Mike Tomlin. I felt like John Harbaugh was the real hot button issue over Mike Tomlin. And those conversations obviously will occur. Todd Bowles is another one. Like I said, maybe I mentioned him before. I was told they don't want to make a change, but I was told that with Jonathan Gannon, too. And a change came and Raheem Morris, and he's out. So these things are fluid, but you have an idea of who's on the hot seat and then who ultimately gets the chair pulled out from underneath them.
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I appreciate you having a thermometer on everybody's ass around the NFL, especially this time of year. And we're talking about coaches and assistant coaches and families. So it does suck, but it is the business and they sign up for it. They understand what it is. Jonathan Gannon obviously announced he's out. Shane Steichen, you mentioned you were leaning towards safe yesterday. Carly Ursay is going to have a press conference at 2:30. What do you think she's going to be saying about keeping Shane Steichen and Chris Ballard? Because obviously those are a couple massive moves for new ownership here.
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H
Well, Pat, you texted me yesterday. You said if I could take people behind the curtain, I'd be like, what do you think?
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In any.
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And I said, I think they're both safe. And you're like, how do you know that? And I'm like, it's calls. It's checking in with people. And. And sure enough, they didn't waste any time. Right after the game, they announced that both men are back. And I just believe it's new ownership. Carly Ursay Gordon is getting used to the job. I believe that she, she believes in both those men and she's willing to stand behind them right now as she continues to watch them and see and learn. Like, again, six weeks ago, we're talking about Shane Steichen for coach of the year.
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It was longer than six weeks ago. It was longer than six weeks. We lost seven straight. Thank you. Maybe ten. Yeah. Eight to ten weeks ago, brother. Life was good then. But on that note, I like Shane Steichen and I like Chris Ballard, but, man, it's a long time with no success. This is a long time with no success, with a lot of excuses in a league where Meritocracy is supposed to be the thing, so hopefully they're able to figure it out. Can't wait to hear what she says at 2:30. And obviously I respect the hell out of the big three and whatever Carly says, I got nothing. But I will support you, Carly. I will. And I think Colts fans gonna take a little bit for them to support it. But if you win and we get back to 8 and 1, you're a super genius. But if you guys stink again next year with a bunch of trash ass, I'm not doing it. Okay, let's move along. Let's go to Baltimore. Obviously, if Luke makes that kick. The Baltimore Ravens are hosting a playoff game and they're winning the AFC north north instead. Potential holy water from father Maximilian Maxwell potentially pushes that thing to the right. Let's talk about the hard boss situation because you and Glazer both saying basically the same thing yesterday during your coaching report. Tomlin doesn't feel like it's that hot. Tomlin will make the decision. I think you both have alluded to him potentially doing tv, which would be awesome. We would very much welcome Mike Tomlin on a microphone more often because he hits a home run on a mic. Mic every time he's on a mic. And if he continues to coach, he continues to coach. Both of you said, though, Harbaugh feels like a much different situation. Is Harbaugh in the world where he would have to make the decision to step down or how do you think that would kind of come about, especially after how last night unfolded?
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H
You know, I think, look, Mike Tomlin's been in Pittsburgh 19 years. John Harbaugh has been in Baltimore 18 years. They are the two longest tenured head coaches with their teams in the National Football League. And these questions have come up with them repeatedly. And I think, you know, we heard it from the fans of Pittsburgh. We've heard it some from the fans in Baltimore. I think over time, fans, they've called for their head coach's job. They don't have an appreciation for the job these men have done over time. And they want something new and something fresh. So with John Harbaugh, I don't think either one of these coaches, Mike Tomlin, John Harbour, are getting fired. I think, look, the Raven scene is over. So these conversations can now occur. You go in, you talk. What is your vision for the future? Do you want me here? What is your vision for the future? Do you want me? And they talk it out. But it just feels like there are things to discuss. This year, the season didn't go the way the Ravens wanted it to go. It was another year where either Zay Flowers drops the ball near the goal line in the AFC championship or Mark Andrews on the two point conversion or Tyler Loop, it ends in disappointment. And when that keeps happening, you have conversations to discuss how you want to address it and how you want to fix it. And if either side wants to make a change and maybe mutually, by the way, like Baltimore wants to move on and go, hire whoever else. John Harbaugh automatically to me becomes the Mike Vrabel of this year's coaching class. He automatically vaults to the top of most lists and he'd have a job tomorrow. Tomorrow. So what does John Harbaugh want to do? Where does he want to coach? Right.
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F
We.
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H
We've got openings in Arizona. We've got openings in New York. We've got openings in Cleveland. Where does he want to go, coach? Does he want to be in Baltimore? Does he want to go elsewhere? That's up for him to decide.
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A
It's interesting. I didn't really think about John Harbaugh's opinion in this whole thing. That is crazy, Coach. You've certainly earned it over the years. But if it does feel like Baltimore, you know, if you just read the tea leaves seemingly coming out of there, maybe the message has run stop. Maybe it is something that is new, that is needed there, and maybe that conversation will lead to that with front office and ownership. Whenever he goes in there and talks about the future, just like whenever Pete Carroll went in there with Schneider and Schneider said, get the hell out of here, old man. And then moved on to McDonald and then now they're the number one seed in the NFC. Yeah, those decisions are hard to make, bro. Those are hard decisions to make legitimately.
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H
Go ahead, Chef D. Maybe it's like a married couple. They've been together 18 years. Maybe they, they, they're both thinking about out breaking it off. And then they said, you know what? Let's stay together, make this work and move forward.
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A
Oh, if you like pina coladas and getting caught in the rain. You know, it's funny, Shafter, I don't want to know spoilers here. Husband and wife are actually writing to each other there.
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B
That's right.
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A
It's crazy. Oh, yeah. They're both looking for somebody that loved the good old days, the pina coladas.
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B
That's cool.
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A
Turns out she was laying or he was lying right next to her.
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E
The more you do.
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A
And then they met up with each other at the end. So they were like, what yeah, that's. That song.
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C
Resparked their relationship.
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A
Yeah.
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F
Good for them.
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100% sure. I was, I was a little bit of a parrot head. Is that what it's called?
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D
Jimmy Buffett?
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I was Parenthead there for a little bit. We had some good summers.
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C
Great.
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Boy, those shows are a good time. Pretty reckless, those shows. Pretty reckless out there. But yeah, that's what you're saying. They're potentially writing to see if anybody likes pina coladas or winning football games and maybe they just need each other. Maybe that's what they need over there. We'll see in that entire thought. It's hard to move on though, from somebody you've had for a long time, but boy, feels harder to move on from somebody immediately. After one year, Pete Carroll kicked out yet again. What do we think happens now in Las Vegas? Go ahead, Tone.
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Yeah, Shefty, obviously Pete Carroll, they. They signed him to a three year deal there out after one, all the coordinators were fired during the season. Basically they signed Geno Smith also. Who knows what's going to go on there.
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B
But is.
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Is Tom Brady, is he running this search or who is running this search for the Raiders in their. In their new coaching regime?
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H
John Spytech, the GM and Tom Brady will I think identify and hire the next head coach of the Raiders. Obviously Mark Davis will have a big say and some of the other partner owners, but I think Brady and Spytech are out for on this radiant Spytech out in front of this and we'll see how it plays out. Yeah, things happen. Like things happen. You know, news waits for nobody here.
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A
Absolutely. That's especially on his Black Monday. Now, the Pete Carroll, Tom Brady spy tech situation out there in Las Vegas. They also have the number one overall pick.
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C
They do.
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A
Yep. So they're going to get Fernando Mendoza, who'll be joining us in about 15 minutes. Raiders fans, just know you can watch the interview that we're about to do with him, conversation we're about to have with him, or watch film him. This guy is a guy that can turn an entire franchise if they get a couple things right around him. You can become the Chicago Bears, you can become the New England Patriots, you can become the Jacksonville Jaguars. That's why if you don't make any moves after a long time of failure, people are going to say, what the hell is going on? AJ Has a question for you. Shefty.
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D
Yeah, Shefty. We hear from people, I mean on espn, all over the Internet, that Stefanski is most likely going to get another job within this, this coaching cycle. Do you think that's the case? And also. So, like, what are some hot names of people that you think may be off the board quick to get hired?
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H
I think this is a little bit of a different year. First of all, I do think that Kevin Stefanski will wind up with another head coaching job if he wants one. I think he's going to be a little bit selective about what he chooses because, look, he just got fired in Cleveland and so if he gets fired again in the next job he chooses for whatever reason, then the chances are he's out of hate coaching chances. So you want to be very selective and careful. But I do think that the Giants and the Titans both will have interest in talking with Kevin Stefanski. I do think that he'll be a top candidate in this cycle. I think when we look at some of the others, I think Raheem Morris may get some head coaching interviews here. I think Robert Sala could get some play. I think.
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A
Oh, no, somebody just.
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H
Is get some interest, I hear, and get some. And interviews. Jeff Halfley and Green Bay is going to be somebody at Nagy. Like, you know, we know some of the names and. And you just don't know how. Vance Joseph in Denver, you don't know how it's going to play out and how each guy will interview. Those are some of the names I think that will have some requests here and go on some interviews.
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A
Mike McCarthy is going to be a part of these and we're excited to see where he ends up. Feels like he feels really rejuvenated after the year of. Yeah, hunting with his dogs and hanging out and watching ball. Well, it's pretty crazy watching all games, not just one Again, I learned so much. It's been a fun year. You guys. Really guys, really good ebbs and flows of every week is pretty crazy. I'd be excited to see him get another shot. Yep. I don't know what his record is, but I think it's up there, like, very good.
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E
Same as like Tomlin and Sean Payton.
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A
He's been good to us and we're not going to openly campaign for anybody, but I think Mike McCarthy would be an awesome coach for somebody. After the year that we spent. He's been such a surprise to me, just such a surprise. The way he talks, how he talks about talks, the way he views things. He's a deep thinker, this guy. Mike McCarthy's a deep thinker. I did not expect that. I think a lot of people probably didn't expect that. He's a like he loves ball, too. Loves ball.
- [75:09]
H
Speaking of ball, you gotta talk, A.J. how many years he coached you for?
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D
All nine. My nine years in green Bay. He was my head coach. His first year was my first year.
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H
Okay. And how do you. How would you feel about him getting a head coaching job?
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D
Absolutely. He's the man.
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B
And he.
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D
He's even grown and become, I think, even a better coach as he's gotten order.
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A
We would like him to go to a good spot, though. There's some ass places right now where we need him not to go. We would like to see him go and have a good time. We would like to let those places know. We have not told McCarthy that we think your places are ass, though. We have only supported Mike McCarthy doing his thing. Now let's talk about Mike McCarthy and A.J. go ahead, Ty.
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C
Yeah, so the guy who replaced Mike McCarthy, Sheffy, for whatever reason, the Matt LaFleur stuff, even with his win percentage being one of the highest, highest, you know, in NFL history through the. Your first eight seasons or whatever, a lot of stuff is still coming up that basically says, like, hey, if the packers don't have a deep playoff run this year, there's a chance that he's going to be let go by Ed Policy. Are you hearing anything else to that? And who would be the one kind of pushing for that? Is it the media? Is it Ed Policy? Is it, you know, people in the, you know, like the. The GM suite? I mean, like, who? Because by all in intents and purposes, Matt LaFleur has been very good as the packers head coach, but he has fallen flat in the playoffs.
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H
Well, it wouldn't be immediate decision. It would be, I believe, a Ed Policy decision. As the president of the team succeeding Mark Murphy, he is the one in charge of those decisions. And, you know, Matt LaFleur was asked about his job security this year and commented on it, which led to about a week worth of speculation. And again, I feel the same way about Matt LaFleur. They do Kevin Stabensk, if they moved on and he's going to be going into the last year of his deal, I think he'd get a job in this cycle as well. So I don't think it'd be much of an issue. I think the bigger deal here is can they figure out a contract of fair value to keep him there. I think that's what this is about, them trying to negotiate a contract, seeing what they can come up with, seeing if they get a deal done, they get the deal done. It's A non talking point and his future is secure there. If they can't figure out about a contract that works for both sides, well, then you have to ask yourself, are they willing to let him go into the last year of his deal, which he would be, or what do you do about that? And very rarely do teams want coaches going into the last year of the deal, which I believe the priority will be to resign him to an extension this offseason and let's see what happens with that first.
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A
Him and Gucci both.
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H
Yeah, both, I think.
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C
Both.
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A
Okay. Congrats to the Packers. They like their guys. Yeah, they like their guys. They like their guys. It sounds like Shafty. That's what I heard from you. All right, a couple quick ones. We know we got to go talk politics.
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B
Go ahead, Con. Yeah. Shafty, Arizona, Kyler Murray, what's the situation there? Are they going to kind of hold on to him? Is he going to be part of the new regime? Is he going to get let go, traded, maybe? And then same with Miami in Tua. Tua is also done in Miami. What are those situations there?
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H
I think both. I think the expectation is in both places, no matter who's making the decision. Obviously, I looking for a new head coach. Miami is currently looking for a new gm. I would think that they're both going to be planning to move on from their respective quarterbacks, and it's just a question of how they decide to extricate themselves from those particular contracts, which are burdensome right now.
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A
Let's talk about a young quarterback. Go ahead, Darius.
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F
Yeah, a lot of these head coaches that have these turnarounds joined young quarterbacks. Cam Ward had an injury on his throwing shoulder yesterday. Any update on his injury?
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A
Surgery?
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H
Sprained AC joint. Doctors told him they don't think he needs surgery, so that's an encouraging news development for him. As you guys would know better than me, the last thing you want to do is hurt yourself on the last game of the season. Have to spend time in the rehab room while everybody else is going away on vacation.
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A
Oh, brother. That was my last four years. You know, just kind of living in there. You actually kind of get more committed to the craft. You get more committed to the business. You start learning more people. It sucks. Yeah, everybody else is doing really cool stuff. What do you guys got? 6:00am they're going to rub a metal thing up and down my knee so that I don't get any scar tissue on there. Yeah, it's part of it, though. That's part of being a professional athlete. Happy to hear that it wasn't worst case scenario for Cam. Excited to see how they build down there in Nashville. Obviously a great city.
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B
All right.
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A
Good luck out there, Shefty. You know, Remember Venezuela? It's crazy.
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C
Hot button.
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A
Crazy story.
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H
My senior year of college, I gathered together all my friends. It was spring break break, and I gathered together everybody so we could go to Venezuela on a spring break trip because I heard there were nickel beers. So I got. We have, like, 15 guys. And we went to Venezuela. And while we were there, civil war broke out. 89. Okay. And they had a. They had to, like, smuggle us out of the country.
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A
This is true.
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H
I remember, like, you know, you don't realize how dumb and ignorant you are at that time. Like, I'm on the phone, I'm drinking beers. My. My best friend's on the phone with his daddy. They're, like, trying to figure out how to get us out of the hotel to the. I'm like, have a beer here. Have a beer.
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A
He.
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H
He goes, cut it out. Shut up.
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A
Tell that story. Now, that'd be A good story. 1989, Venezuelan history. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Schefter.
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B
First news break was probably that.
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A
What's that? There's a civil war.
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B
Breaking news. Civil war is broken out in Venezuela.
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A
Him boozing, by the way. So funny. You guys need to get to the embassy, stat. What? It's nickel beers. Not doing that. I learned a lot about Venezuela. I think we all did. Got a lot of oil down there.
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B
A lot of gold.
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A
Lot. Lot a lot down there. What a wild weekend that was.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Marco Rubio interrupts. Pittsburgh Penguins. Detroit Red. Who won that game?
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B
Was it Detroit?
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E
I think it was hockey town, AKA the Pittsburgh Penguins.
- [80:47]
A
Oh, I'm watching that game. Obviously having a good time watching it. Pittsburgh Penguins might be the hottest team in hockey right now. Look out, Sidney Crosby looks like he's 24. I don't know how that works. He's aging backwards. This guy's Benjamin Button, okay? He's got. He's got magic happening. And then all of a sudden, Marco Rubio pops in. If you don't know, now you know to the whole world. Oh, my God, it's going down out here. Hope everybody's all right. Hey, these in peace. Well, there's one guy can't see shit or hear shit. I hope.
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B
Happy New Year.
- [81:18]
A
Good night. What a wild time to be alive. Shout out to football.
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C
Shout out to football.
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A
Shout out to football. Shout out to football. Okay, let's put up super Wild card weekend, the schedule. AJ which one of these games, outside of the Green Bay packers and Chicago Bears, obviously a highlight for you and for Ty is the fact that one of the greatest rivalries in all the ball is wrapping up day one of super Wild Car weekend. Which one of these games you most excited about, A.J. jay.
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D
I mean, all of them are awesome. But that San Fran Philadelphia game for some reason jumps out at me. I, I honestly, if I had to pick today, I'm not sure who I'm picking to win that game. I just think San Fran has been, has been hot. They're good. And we know Philly. Even though people don't talk about it or don't really mention, I feel like they're defending champs. Like they were awesome last year. We know they could find a way to turn it on. But I'm curious about that one right there. San Fran, Philly.
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A
Hey, Coach Tyrioni. Is it a dog mentality to rest all your players when there's something on the line?
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C
Listen, that's my decision. Everyone, you know, be talking today about how big and dumb of a diption I was. Let's say Sequan, you know, hurts his knee or Jaylen hurts his throwing shoulder. You know, you think anyone gives a. If Taron McKee, you know, is out there and he gets his brains bashed in? No, they don't. Because they don't want to see Tar Key playing the, the 49ers in the playoffs. So is it dog mentality? Not exactly. But you know, what, what, what the, the difference between, between the three seed and two seed? Anyway?
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E
I have a question for you, Coach. So is it. Is the three seed, two seed, that's, that's less important than devonte Smith playing to get his, to get his, his money. So it's worth risking him for an injury or.
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C
Well, I'm a players coach and, you know, so if, if you want to fucking bitch and moan about me sending a guy out here, get a couple extra, you know, shekels in his bank account, sue me. Sue me. I guess I won't do that anymore, you know. And then guess what? When we win super bowl this year and Devonta, you know, dumps me with the Gatorade bath, he might slide me, I don't know, 10 G's or something.
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I
Coach.
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C
Thanks for remembering, Coach. Appreciate you, Coach. You know, you just, you can't win. You can't win. It doesn't matter what you do. You do the right thing. Everyone says you're a dipshit. You don't know what you're doing. You do the wrong thing, they double down, say he's the biggest dipshit there. So I don't know. It's almost like I didn't win a Super bowl last year. It's almost like I'm one of these other rum dums who's getting fired today, but I'm not. We're the three seed in the playoffs.
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A
And did you guys win your division earlier than everybody else in the league?
- [83:33]
C
Yeah, absolutely. Wrapped up like eight, like six months ago. You know, we have. We haven't played a meaningful football game. You know, outside getting number one seed. We knew that wasn't going to happen. We didn't play a meaningful football game two months.
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B
Well, Coach, what'd you think about the Bears losing? You could have played the packers by chance maybe the two seasons. Now one.
- [83:49]
C
Well, I kind of knew what I personally. Nah, I don't want to get anything with them. I thought it was kind of a chicken shit move by Ben Johnson. He was trying to figure out a way to lose that game so he wouldn't have to play packers in the first round playoffs. But we said, you know what? No, no, no, we're not doing this. Everybody in America wants to see Bears packers again. And we got a little bad blood with 49ers. You remember a couple years ago, Nick Bosa was basically saying like, hey, these guys suck. Like we know exactly how be him. I. I can't remember. I think that might have been a year we went on and won the Super Bowl. So, you know, maybe he knows something that I don't know. But again, I'll just let everybody else talk all their say whatever they want. And we're just to going to. Are we going to play a football game? Is it going to be outside? Yeah.
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A
Okay.
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C
That's just how we want it. And we'll play in a parking lot if we have to.
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A
CMC's on historic run right now, Coach.
- [84:33]
C
Yeah, guess what? He's got coming to the link. Okay, so I'm not, I'm not calling for Eagles fans to, you know, maybe put a sock full of batteries and smack him in his knees.
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A
But, but if that were to happen, let's just say Coach.
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C
Coach wasn't the one telling you.
- [84:50]
A
I know, Coach. That is not actually Coach Sirianni's words, by the way. That is Ty Schmidt impersonating Coach Sirianni. For those that don't know, sure. Remember a couple of years ago whenever we started licensing our show on espn, some sports media People would have typed that out as if those were actual quotes with no context at all. Just throw us right into a fight.
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B
Got Ryan Day with every day.
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A
Exactly. Fake Lou Holtz got him cooked up there. I. I appreciate that we have packers bear on Saturday night. I also appreciate the fact that the Jacksonville Jaguars. Come on, man. I know, AJ after watching them live, after having eyes on the product of the Jacksonville Jaguars, you think to yourself, like, coming off the bus, they're a real team. And then you. Well, a lot of people can look good. Are they actually good? It's like, yeah.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
And Liam Cohen draws up people to be wide ass open. Nobody really talks about Liam Cohen being some offensive guru. McVeigh Shanahan, maybe Kevin O' Connell gets some love in there. Nobody really brings up Liam Cohen. This dude's dialing up wide ass open guys on a regular basis. And Trevor's playing better ball than ever. Now on the other side, an actual alien in Josh Allen. That's a great game to kick off Sunday. Super wild card, A.J.
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D
Yeah, it is. And the fact that Jacksonville not only is relevant, like, they're. They're a legit super bowl contender now. That's the thing. That's what Liam Cohen has done to this team. I'm sure they're also loving the fact that they are underdogs at home. I doubt Liam ever mentions that to the squad. They don't even have to talk about it. I'm sure they know it, but I think they have, like, this. They're nice, like, sweet spot to where they kind of have chip on their shoulder. No one's giving us a chance. Even though they are a very, very good football team that can get hot and has a chance to make the Super Bowl.
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B
Yeah. And they're showing ETN right now, which is perfect timing. The whole thing with the Bills, you know, is being healthy on offense, which they actually aren't now. Kincaid Knox is rolling, Keon Coleman playing again, Gabe Davis, everything. But can their defense, you know, get a stop for Josh Allen? Can they stop the run, do all those things? That was kind of the only reason everyone wasn't too, too high on the Bills running the Super Bowl. And now it does feel like, you know, maybe they have a shot.
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F
Yeah. Bills, that Bill's defense kind of has turned a corner, playing well, Better against the pass, better against the run, which was definitely there. Achilles heel down the stretch.
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B
But.
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F
But the thing with Liam, like, I think most people knew he was a good play caller, a great offensive mind. Like, if you run Back that shot of him running into the locker room, and that's been him from wide. We obviously gave him a bunch of shit for the Duvall stuff too. But that's the thing that surprised me the most. Just his character and how we always say teams take on the identity of the head coach. I never saw this from Lynn. Didn't know much about him, obviously, as a coordinator, but when you see the personality of a guy, it's why you see other people that have. Have the great football mind. But when you go into. You got to stand in front of that room from week one to week 18 and then throughout a playoff run and have your team on the same page, you know, on, you know, ready to run through a wall for you. That's tough to do with a group of professionals. So the way that he's been able to do this for a first year guy. And what a year five quarterback. Year six quarterback. Like, unbelievable. From Liam.
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B
Yeah. And if you're the Buffalo Bills fan, look at that locker room. See, this is why you build a new stadium. That is so sick having that.
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A
This isn't even their new stadium either, by the way. Jacksonville is building a new stadium, which leads me to my next point. Like, congrats to Shot Khan. Yeah, we said it last week. I would like to reiterate it. Shot Khan has done everything he possibly could for the Jacksonville Jaguars to be good while not meddling.
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C
Bingo.
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A
Like, not meddling at all. Just like, I'll hire the right people. Right. These are the right people. This is the right people. I'll give you everything you need. You want to build a new city. Sweet. Well, how many cities do you want to build? Let. Let's. Anything for the Jags to be good. Let's do that. Well, we're not getting a lot of fans to the games. We think people. How do we turn this into a festival? Let's get DJs, let's get pools. Let's go ahead and build that indoor stadium. It's like Shot has really left no stone unturned, basically, in trying to make this Jacksonville Jaguars team good. And they're here. So congrats to the entire organization.
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C
Yeah. And you guys always.
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A
They used to tarp off.
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C
Yeah.
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A
I mean, tarping off the whole big section. Yeah, exactly.
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C
F. And like, CL this video right here. Like, you guys always talk about, you know, like, teams who are the tightest are often. And. And granted, like, I haven't, you know, parsed through every single team who won this weekend, who's going to the playoffs like their video inside the locker room, we see a lot of these from the Jags and like, them giving Trevor, you know, the grill. Like, you can tell this team is actually, they're very, very tight. And then you go back to Liam Cohen. I understand that Baker's been banged up this year, but. But like, you know, you just, you look at what a lot of people say about, you know, like, Liam Cohen maybe should, like Bucs fans are wishing he would have stuck around and he would have got the head coaching job because he was the one that really unlocked Baker last year and kind of took him to a new level. And we, we maybe should have seen that coming, you know, in terms of just unlocking Trevor. Now. I don't know if anyone would have expected them to go 11 and 4, but it seems like everything is just going in the right direction for the Jags.
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A
Right direction. Yeah. Cam Little says, I'll send this ball in the direction of the. From anywhere.
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F
Unbelievable.
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A
From 67 and hits the net. Okay, so you get to the 50 down there. Now there is a little. Jacksonville does have a one way jet stream. That certainly does help. The Colts had an opportunity before half one time for like a 65 yarder. Chuck Pagano didn't send me or Vinnie out there for it. Decided to throw a hail Mary that we did not complete. Certainly a conversation that happened while we were jogging in the locker room of what the fuck are we doing here? We got a downwind for this opportunity. We don't go for for it. But every opportunity that this guy goes for, he makes. Cam Little is cold, dude. He's already got a jersey in the hall of fame. This guy for what he's done in the past. Now he hits a 67 yarder like it's a chip shot. This dude's outrageous. So Logan cooks their punter bombs.
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E
Yep.
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A
Absolute dog. And he's a beast. Yeah, he will fight you.
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B
Yeah.
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F
Matters. We saw it last night. All of kicking game, like game is huge. Playoffs and these, you know, outdoor situations, obviously it won't be, you know, this week you're in Jacksonville. Who knows what the weather will be. But a lot of these games we talk about, you know, the goat Vinnie. Like a lot of those play games came down to big time kicks. So if you have a weapon like this, that's unbelievable. I love his swag.
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A
Yeah, me too. Congrats, Cam. Congrats, Cam. His last name's Little. He's not that little. You know, he's actually average size. Colts do have a little guy kicking for him. And he put his entire body.
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B
He did sick.
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A
And that's on his first time we've seen that live and real person. I mean, he's pretty active guy on the sideline. We've chatted about it before. I think he's like 3 and a.
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B
Half, 3 and 3.75 pylons probably if you stack them on top of each.
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A
Other because he's running down the sidelines a lot. We see him, you know, he's a little guy. This guy's a. He's very active during games. I mean, every single time he can run, he's definitely going to do that. Yesterday he said, you know what? I'm going to throw it all at him. And that's not the first time he's done this multiple times during kickoffs this.
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D
Year and trying to get across and put his head on the ball.
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A
Absolutely. So. So, Blake, I want to let you know we appreciate your efforts.
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B
Keep it going.
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A
We need more of you out there. I still don't know how that dude kicks the ball so far with how small he is. I mean, he's clearly a small fellow. He might be the smallest guy in the history of the NFL. Actually might be the smallest guy in the history of the NFL. And he had a 60 yard field goal in Seattle. So it's like, Blake, keep doing. You're the least of our problems in Indianapolis. We're lucky that you're there. Blake, keep it rolling. Join us now. Speaking of Indianapolis, there's a town about an hour and 15 minutes south of here called Bloomington, Indiana. It had been forever known as place where Bob Knight made the Indiana Hoosier basketball team a relevant conversation for every single sports conversation in the entire country. Now it's known as the place that has the number one football team in the country. Now it's known as the place that is home for the Rose bowl trip champions. Now it's known as the home of the Heisman. Ladies and gentlemen. Joining us, quarterback for the IU Hoosier football team, Fernando Mendoza. How are you, brother?
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I
Great. Great. Boys. Really appreciate having me on. It was great seeing you guys on the sideline. And then during the end of the game, that great migration you guys made on our sideline.
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A
Yeah, it was a great migration. Thank you for showing us love. I didn't even think about calling it a migration. That certainly was what it was. You know, as you know, the exit is right up that tunnel for us. So we were trying to get ahead of it. We didn't know how we were going to get from one end zone to the other. We looked at the Alabama sideline. That looked pretty bummed out over there. Indiana sideline, we're going that way. So we just started walking through. Thank you for showing us love. It was nice to see everybody. The vibes are obviously immaculate. Sig got a big smile and even a hug. Okay, even a hug. I told him, like, hey, it was an honor to work. Watch your boys. But let's talk about this. It was an honor to watch your team. You're the first team in CFP history to be able to get through the long by. And it wasn't rust. It was just rest. How do you think you guys were able to handle the amount of time off with the Heisman and everything else and still come out buzzing like you guys did? What are your thoughts on the prep that you guys had during that long layoff that nobody else has been able to succeed with?
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I
Yeah, I think Coach Signetti and staff had a fantastic plan throughout that month break. And going in that first drive we saw on the first driver had a three and out. They sacked us twice. And I can definitely see why teams can get off to a slow start, especially the first play. I was like, wow, this is real football. Again, haven't played football in 26 days. Essentially, like, essentially had a whole another fall camp of just anticipating this game all the way up to our to the Rose bowl game. And so I could definitely see why teams get off to a slow start. However, once we got that three and out we went on the sideline, we're like, all right, we're going to play our brand of ball. We know what we got to do. And we were so hungry for this game. And all the anticipation of this game that's been Brewing for the 26 days ever since the Big Ten Championship, we are ready for it and ready to conquer the moment.
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A
Yeah, it looked amazing. It looked fantastic. You're obviously spinning it to all your weapons. Tell me about the run game. Pat Coogan wins the offensive player of the Rose bowl, which is obviously a special moment. I did not know that Kirk Herbstreak decides who the players of the games are. He wanted to pick the entire offensive. Offensive line. They said that's not possible. So he picks Pat Coogan. You all go crazy for him. Tell me about the offensive line and obviously how important it's been to this entire run.
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I
Well, first of all, I want to thank you, Mr. Hershey, for that, because Pat Coogan getting the offensive MVP has been so huge for our team. I think it's given another boost and jolt of confidence for offensive line. They've done such a great job this year and whenever I, you know, or any other player in our team gets in a war, we always try to emphasize it. Hey, Pat Coogan, the rest, offensive line, all those guys are ballers and the only reason we're up up at this point and I think him getting that award has really shown the offensive line our appreciation for them and the world's appreciation for them and really kind of giving us a little boost and jolt, especially going against a really tough Oregon defensive line next week.
- [95:20]
A
Reese Davis, fantastic job up there. You know, Reese delivering the ladies and gentlemen a little misdirection a couple of different times. I love the delivery, I love the celebration you all had for him and I appreciate that. Pat, you said was the one that basically gave the speech about you all being misfits. Right. Quite a leader and a rallier for your entire squad, I'd assume. How many of those guys do you have and do you feel like this is the tightest team you've ever been on? It looks like you guys love each other down there in Bloomington.
- [95:47]
I
Yeah, this is an extremely tight team. Not only are we tight on the field, we're very tight off the field. And Pat is, I mean he's basically, if not the captain, one of the biggest captains on our team and especially our offensive offense. He always gives us pre game speeches, halftime speeches and make sure that we never had that complacency. And it all, it's all a trickle down effect from coach Zig to the coordinators, to our position coaches to then the leaders on the team to then really just throughout the entire team. So I think Pat is a great representation of that. He always boosts us with a little jolt of a pregame speech, whether it's a misfit speech, whether it's a speech he gave us before the Rose bowl or the speech at halftime saying, hey Oklahoma, they were up 17,00. You know, we, we don't want to fall in that trap. They're a good team. Alabama's resilient. Let's stomp them. Let's drag them to the deep end until the last bubble comes up. Then we could celebrate.
- [96:32]
E
Hell yeah.
- [96:33]
I
And so having guys like that on the team and having that mindset on the team is really why we're able to pull away.
- [96:37]
A
Oh, I love that. I, I just got like kind of chills here and like that. And I couldn't even imagine Signetti hearing one of these boys yes, that's a good one. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Last bubble actually. Yeah, yeah, we're talking about real death here. Now on that note, the last question for me before the boys have questions. We appreciate you, Fernando, taking time here. Obviously the game is just a few days away. You warm up when you spit. Every ball you throw is a tight spot, is a perfect spiral, and I don't want to jinx anything. You throw absolute darts, I mean, dots on a very regular basis. Every warm up throw is a dart. Every warm up throw is right on the money. I mean, you are a special elite ball thrower, brother. Which is obviously great for the next level and it's great for Indiana right now. There was one time when third quarter maybe. Yep, maybe third quarter during a commercial break, you were spending it. Signetti walks. Do you remember this? Sig walks right in between you and who you're throwing the ball to. You clear his head by about that much and then it turns over right into the hands of whoever was catching it. I thought you could killed Signetti as the ball was rolled because where we were standing, I was literally watching it all happen. It goes right over top of it. Is that a normal thing? And who's the person you play catch with? All. All game? Is that the same person every single time?
- [97:54]
I
Yeah. So I would say during the, during the TV timeouts, especially in these college football games, there's a lot of TV timeouts. And I would say it's a. Not underappreciated but a moment about college games that people don't talk about enough. You're about to get on the field, then all of a sudden you see the stick and it says three minutes or 250. And you're like, wow, man, I, I'm ready for this drive and I just gotta wait. So I always try to get. I always have a routine, always like a way to get myself ready. I always get a lot of throws in with my younger brother or another quarterback, Grant Wilson here on the team. And we're throwing, they're giving me tips and tech about my technique. Hey, shorter stride. Hey, be more stable. And then after I do that, I get some water, you know, throw a little prayer up to God and to the man jc And I get ready to. And then I get ready to execute on the next drive. And so I would say one thing about, you know, the Signetti incident is I'm always very confident in my accuracy. Not only if not the most important. It's one of the most important components of a Quarterback and so something I pride myself on. And every quarterback, they would tell you, they really pride themselves on their accuracy and the way their ball spins.
- [98:53]
A
Yeah, well, yours is tight. And that Signetti takes a lot of pride in what you could do too.
- [98:58]
B
He.
- [98:58]
A
He just walked right. I mean, that ball was right over his head. I'm like, I don't know how many people are watching this right now, but the entire world would have found out about that if that would have taken place. But instead, perfect layer throw right over top of Sig's head, turns over, drops right into somebody's hands, either Alberto or Grant. It was. It was special watching you, man. It was a great day. Go ahead, A.J.
- [99:19]
D
Yeah, Fernando, I guess watching your guys defense in person, it's a thing of beauty how they play, how fast they play, how physical or how disciplined they are, I guess. How quickly did you realize that, hey, this defense is unbelievable. I know you got to campus about a year ago, I'm guessing in spring ball, you probably watched these guys fly around and, and knew you had something special. What's it like to be on the sidelines and watch your defense just dominate?
- [99:41]
I
Yeah, the first couple days of spring camp, I was like, wow, this defense is either the best defense in the country or I'm not as good as I thought I would. So. So how you do having that experience and be able to play against such a great defense through spring ball, through fall camp, giving myself a ton of tough days and a ton of tough looks, a lot of tricky looks, because coach Hayne really does cook up the defensive looks. It's helped myself develop so much as a quarterback and I mean, as a linebacker. I'm sure you can appreciate the efforts of Aiden Fisher, Isaiah Jones and Elijah Hardy. All those guys are ballers. And I would say every part of the defense, whether it's. Whether it's defensive line, whether the second level or the third level, they're all intricate in their own ways, and they all play in such harmony and symphony with a great synergy, all towards a common goal of trying to disguise looks, trying to confuse a quarterback, while also.
- [100:28]
A
Creating disruption, harmony, symphony, and great synergy. And they all thump and bump. I mean, they are tackling through the ground. The most physical teams won that. That is our big takeaway from the quarterfinals. The most physical teams, the most dominating teams in the trenches are the ones that. That won. I think that's going to continue to go forward. And your team has been special there, both on the offense and defensive line. Let's last question here. About the game. Go ahead, comment.
- [100:53]
B
Yeah, Fernando Riley Nowakowski seemed to be kind of an unsung hero for your team. He was lead blocking. He also picked up a massive third down, breaking a tackle, running up the sideline. Oh, here it is. Perfect timing. What does he mean to your entire team? What kind of player and person person is he? And also, just so you know, the edits right now on social media of you after dropping a. However that leads into you just slicing and dicing. The Alabama team is just absolutely fantastic Internet. So hopefully you see one or two of those.
- [101:27]
I
Yeah, no, for sure. The Internet is always undefeated no matter what happens. So shout out to the Internet.
- [101:32]
A
Shout out. Shout out. Shout out.
- [101:35]
I
But Riley is, I mean, he's a great player. I think on the field he's, he's a tight end, but he's also a little bit like a fullback. He's like a college Use check. Like a college Kyle use check. Obviously, you know Kyle's a fantastic player, so, you know, his praises are there, but I say he's a college version. Not only is he fantastic in the pass game with that big catch, but he's like a little muscle bowling ball. And so whenever you always throw him, you know he's gonna get the maximum yak. And he's also so fundamental in the ground game. He's a great lead block. He's essentially the fullback of our team. And to have that is such a great fundamental because, you know, like you said, all the teams, the most dominated teams throughout the quarterfinals, they're the ones that won the game. And as long as everyone likes, loves talking about the quarterback and the receivers, the skill positions, but it really comes down to the line and he is just like an added boost, like essentially another, if anything, another offensive lineman that could also catch the ball to our team.
- [102:24]
A
You guys are moving his ass. He was, I mean, the amount of motion he had, like a time killer.
- [102:28]
B
Always jersey was filthy, filthy early.
- [102:31]
A
I mean, you had him all over the place. I'm like, is that because it's too big of a body to be moving as much as it is? And I'm literally sitting there now in motion again, this guy, I mean, he's a big dude. To be running like that. Obviously that goes to the cardio, that goes to the fitness, that goes to the commitment to ball. That goes to 30 some days or 26 days of no football and remaining locked in. Shout out to the whole. You guys are fun to watch. Let's talk about the next game now. Go ahead, Ty.
- [102:59]
C
Yeah. Fernando, looking ahead to the Peach bowl, how much can you guys take away from the previous Oregon game? Obviously going to Eugene and getting that big win when everyone was kind of saying hey, is Indiana still for real? Is there anything you can take away from that? And have you thought at all about how while it is a neutral site game, it was probably 80% Indiana fans at the Rose bowl and I assume it's going to be very similar down in Atlanta.
- [103:26]
I
Yeah, Austin Stadium was a fantastic environment and we had pre snap troubles that game. We had a couple false starts, a couple penalties and I. So I think that having that home field advantage in Atlanta, which you never know until you get there in the game and you see how loud the crowd is on either side. However, assuming that we're not going to have to go on styling count just because of how far, you know, Eugene is from Atlanta and as well as just it being a neutral site game, it's usually 50, 50 and hopefully you know, there's more fans on our side. I think that'd be huge for us. And you know, going to Austin Stadium, I believe it was week five or week six going to play against such a great defense led by their coach, Coach Lupoi and just an overall great team that is always motivated. With coach Lanning it spoke a testament to that point of the season that we could really do this and we were destined to become a great team and be able to able to make the college football playoffs. And I think throughout the entire season we've been able to prove that point. However, beating a good team twice, not a good team, a great team twice, is extremely difficult. They're star studded on both offense and defense, draft picks all across the board. And so to be able to have to play them twice, you know they have changed a little bit throughout the season but having to play them twice is going to be tough. It's going to be a great challenge for us.
- [104:33]
A
Yeah, it's good for the Big Ten to see you both there. Obviously Big Ten has been dominant through the national championship. Yeah. So that's how Big Ten people are talking. That's how Big Ten people are talking. But through the entire bowl kind of season here the Big Ten has just been ass. Yeah, it has been real. And hey, the Southerns are going to have to look in the mirror. I mean the Southerns are going to have to look into me. I saw a couple on Paul Fine bomb show start to say we're, we're in trouble down here. We are in trouble down here.
- [105:02]
B
A lot of pressure on Ole Miss.
- [105:03]
A
Yeah, a lot. A lot of pressure on Ole Miss. And he might be the guy, honestly. Hey, the Final Four teams are awesome. I don't know how much you know about what's going on in Miami or what's going on at Ole Miss. You four are representing college football perfectly. And the way you guys play and the way you operate and the way you act is special. Dan Lanning and Signetti are basically just a younger and older version of each other. I mean, it is. It has been awesome to kind of follow along with all the stories now for you. You added a weapon in the Big Ten championship that the world got to see that continued at the Rose bowl, and everybody else is getting healthy. Go ahead, Tone.
- [105:34]
E
Yeah, Fernando Pat's obviously talking about Charlie Becker there. He has been awesome. Obviously, you have Cooper, you have Surat, you talked about Noah Koski. You got your running backs. And then I saw you do an interview. I can't remember who it was with, but you were talking about the Old Dominion game and maybe potentially trying to do too much. And then you realized, hey, like, I just got to be a point guard for these guys. How awesome is it? And how much does it benefit you to have. Have all those weapons? And then, is it. You just read the defense and dictate that the defense dictates where you're going because you have all these guys, and no matter who you're going to, it's the right decision.
- [106:08]
I
Yeah. So our first game is Old Dominion.
- [106:10]
H
It.
- [106:10]
I
It was a rough game for myself because I thought, wow, I'm going to anticipate a transfer. I need to go out there and I really need to be Not Superman, but just try to show everybody that I'm such a great quarterback and make all these insane throws and kind of run all over the place. And that game actually had zero passing touchdowns. I actually searched it up later. It was the first time a Heisman quarterback's ever had zero touchdowns, so, you know, able to bounce back from that. But after that game, my quarterback coach and I, we sat down and we said, hey, you just got to be a point guard. All you got to do is be a point guard. Distribute the ball when the defense gets too much depth, just check it down. And there. There's one play in Alabama that actually set us up for our second touchdown that was great. That one of our running back backs, Black, got open on a checkdown and ran for 12 yards. So it was really about being a point guard. We have such a great offensive line, such great Receivers and we also have such a fantastic run game that we're all going to be able to complement each other. And all I need to do is be the most efficient quarterback possible. So that's been my goal throughout the entire season. And there's been many games where I've had a really high completion percentage or been really efficient, such as the Alabama game. And I believe that's the best way to help my team. So I'm going to keep on doing it every single game.
- [107:12]
A
I'll continue to gas you up any chance we get. Hembo just sent a stat that is against exactly what you just talked about. Fernando Mendoza, 14 of 16 with three pass touchdowns. He joined Tua 2018 Orange bowl is the only quarterbacks with more pass touchdowns than incompletions. College Football Playoff Pretty good, hey. That was the, you know, the rest of us thing too. Comes out pretty clean. I'm telling you. When we were watching you throw it in warmups, we're like, this guy doesn't. There's not a single flub. No, no flubs. And with the paint on the ball, obviously you see it a bit. Little bit. You throw seeds and then you got a fatter ass. I think that a lot of people think you are, hey, you're a stallion. I, I think not a lot of people understand you're. You were running a little bit more there in the Rose Bowl. Was that a conscious decision before the game? In the game? Like, how do you kind of view and make those decisions? Because you are a strapping lad. I, I don't think people really fully understand that. You're obviously incredibly smart. You could spin it. You're tall and you are thick. I mean, I mean, you are, you know, Paul is obviously respectful, but you're a big dude and you were moving, brother. I don't think any of us expected that. I don't think Alabama was looking for that as well. Is this part of your game we haven't seen or we just don't respect enough? Fernando?
- [108:25]
I
Yeah, I would say with fantastic offensive line, we really haven't been able to see my run game too much. And you know, Coach Owens and the strength staff here got me up From I think 205, 210 to now a low of where I need to weigh in and weigh ins every week at 225. And with that, I've been able to put on good weight where I'm able to run and I'm able to still be fluid in my movements and whenever the team needs me to Run. I can always run. And so my mindset's always. Every play is essentially a puzzle for me. I have five or six options, you know, with throwing the ball. And then my sixth or seventh option will be, hey, let me just run the ball or throw it away way. And so sometimes when, you know, there's a third down and three that we had, that was pretty crucial. They bluffed. Cover zero was able to tell their bluff going through my progression. Wow. No one's there. Alabama did a great job there. There's a reason they're in the college football quarterfinals. Like, they're a great defense at that point. Hey, I got to put my body on the line. I gotta maneuver something, and I gotta go get the first down. And so whatever my team calls on me to run, I'll always be able to run.
- [109:23]
A
Oh, my gosh. Just listening. You frame it as a puzzle because you're a nerd. You're a football nerd as well. So not only are you six' five, can move, can spin it, you're also a football nerd. And it being phrased is like, every play's a puzzle, basically. And then in real time, you're just, okay, yeah. Ba, ba, ba. Queen's gambit on the ceiling.
- [109:41]
B
We're figuring it all out middle of the play. This is a good football team, man.
- [109:45]
A
Wow. They bluffed me.
- [109:46]
C
You got me.
- [109:47]
A
All right, let's see what's next for me.
- [109:48]
F
I would actually. You know what? I would actually like to see you fill out one of those puzzles or, hey, point at the bikes so you prove that you're a real human, because a lot of people out here think you are maybe a robot or controlled by AI. So what do you do like to do with your teammates? What human hobbies do you like to do with the boys?
- [110:06]
I
Yeah, the boys especially here in Bloomington, Indiana. It's a very fun college town. So we always. We always like to go out and eat. We always like to go out and eat, you know, and, you know, after some big games, especially at the Big Ten championship game, when we got back, we. We like to go out, so. We like to go out. We like to go eat. And so just whatever you can imagine in a college town, we do.
- [110:23]
B
Yeah.
- [110:24]
I
And so it's always a good time with the boys.
- [110:26]
A
I love to hear that. Feels like you guys don't want to.
- [110:28]
I
Say too much on national television here, but, you know, not trying to throw anyone on the bus because we are focused on Oregon. And after Alabama, we got home at 5am so at that point it's like, hey, we're always on Oregon. But you know, there, there are times that we have fun. And I think that's the best part of college football. If you ask any, any players who've played college football, it's not only the big wins, it's hang with the boys after the wins.
- [110:48]
A
Yeah.
- [110:48]
I
The crazy nights after the wins. It's just, it's the great moments.
- [110:51]
A
Hey, that's what we're doing it for. Go ahead.
- [110:53]
F
He's the only quarterback on the team to beat the bye week so far. And, and I gotta say that's. That's exactly what chat GPT would probably say. I go, I go out to eat with the boys.
- [111:02]
A
We go out to eat food. Hey, I like the people are saying, you're an AI quarterback, brother. It's a great time to have an AI quarterback here in Indiana. You're doing great things for us. We appreciate the hell out of you, man. Muchos gracias, amigo.
- [111:15]
I
Appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. God bless.
- [111:17]
A
Hey, no problem. See, I spoke some Spanish today there. Did you hear that? I. I thought I really did it. I thought I really, I. I thought I nailed that. You said absolutely not, gringo. Is that what you said right there to me?
- [111:28]
I
No, I mean your Spanish is great. Your Spanish is great. It can definitely go through a lot of Mexican restaurants in Indiana.
- [111:33]
A
There's plenty. Yeah, there's a lot of them. Yeah. We can't wait. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Fernando Mendoza. Okay. He's Cuban.
- [111:45]
B
Yep.
- [111:45]
F
Miami.
- [111:47]
A
Did I speak the proper Spanish?
- [111:49]
D
What, you thought he was going to throw it back at you? Didn't you think he's going to throw something off?
- [111:53]
B
Winded, bro.
- [111:53]
A
I thought Dana was coming back right there. I was so excited for it. I even potentially had a response. Depending upon what potentially, potentially had a response. If he would have went too far in there. I see, See, I would have, you know, I would have got in there, but I appreciate that. Dude, man. Special, you know, and transfer portal is open right now. The window's open. And Indiana just signed a bunch of people. I mean, they got Josh Hoover there, everybody from tcu, they got an end, they got an offensive line. I mean, they. Indiana has been the transfer portal kings. They really have them in Texas Tech. Texas Tech has done very well. They flipped their entire program. I guess. Vandy, you could also add into the conversation with what they've been able to do and what Kurt Signetti is able to do is evaluate very well. But also say those Are our guys. Guys like, these are the type of guys we want Signetti and Mendoza feel like.
- [112:42]
C
Yeah.
- [112:43]
A
Doesn't that feel like a match made perfect?
- [112:45]
D
Oh, my goodness. Absolutely. Perfect fit. But you said how Signetti evaluates talent and brings the right guys in, but then how those. That coaching staff gets those guys to play together and play so hard and so fast, that's, to me, the most impressive thing.
- [112:58]
E
It's funny. It feels like Sig's doing two jobs at once, because a lot of the guys that they brought in, they either played or he definitely watched film of them playing like they played Michigan State this year. And then they brought in the B.C. running back back. The B.C. running back had a good game against Michigan State. So while he's watching film for preparing for Michigan State, he definitely saw these things like these college coaches have to do one job and then another job while they're doing that job.
- [113:21]
A
Turbo coming to Indy. That's a good name.
- [113:24]
B
Hell of a name.
- [113:24]
A
That's a good name for a running back. But, yeah, both Lanning and Signetti had their press conferences. Hilarious. Both of them just like mental warfare happening, but also sharing the same sentiment. It's kind of what we got to do right now while we're preparing for the biggest game. But, hey, I guess it's college football now. I couldn't study for four hours because I recruit small. Yeah. But we'll see how it goes. And Atlanta goes. Keep worried about the recruits over there, Sig. We got the same thing happening here. It's crazy time for, obviously, football, but it's a great time. We're so incredibly thankful that we get to talk about it. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We'll see you tomorrow. Goodbye. Really think I got it in there.
- [114:01]
C
You did.
- [114:01]
A
I came up out of nowhere. The music. Shout out to Nick. He's back.
- [114:07]
B
All right, Nick Sunshine.
- [114:09]
C
He's delightful.
- [114:09]
D
Big smile. Big smile this morning.
- [114:11]
F
Oh, yeah.
- [114:11]
A
He came skipping Joe View. Yeah.
- [114:13]
C
Steelers victory last night.
- [114:14]
B
Come on.
- [114:14]
D
Good to hear.
- [114:15]
H
Yeah.
- [114:15]
A
I spent a lot of emotion last.
- [114:17]
E
Night, so, you know, all that was.
- [114:18]
A
Left was the good stuff. It was nice. Yeah, we appreciate that. You should have had a lot of good stuff last night. It was the greatest ending it could have possibly been for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
- [114:27]
I
There was a lot of agonized moments.
- [114:28]
E
Moments up until that ending.
- [114:30]
A
Yeah. But the. The dopamine dump after that because of Father Maximilian Maxwell's holy water. I mean, let's see. Go on the road. So he's actually from our Understanding substitute priest. There might have been a Wally Pip situation happened with the priesting over there for the Pittsburgh Steelers. I, I genuinely don't have any follow ups to the story, but Father Paul and normally priest for the Pittsburgh Steelers, we met him. He is the head priest up there at St. Vincent. St. Vincent actually has a. Has a. An arch abbey which is a monastery with a bunch of monks. It is a very Catholic place, like maybe the most Catholic place in. In America. I have no idea how many of these there are. Father Paul is the head of the arch Abbey. Father Maximilian Maxwell, he is the prior.
- [115:20]
C
That's right. To the arch abbey of the Arch Abbey.
- [115:24]
A
He's vice president. President of the monastery of Catholic monks.
- [115:29]
F
That looked just like Chuck for a second.
- [115:31]
B
It did.
- [115:31]
A
Yeah. My God, Chuck was trying to get some sage after that holy water, but just didn't get it quick enough. And Father Maximilian, substitute father. Might be step priest. Time to step in full time here.
- [115:45]
C
Yeah. I mean that it's over, you know.
- [115:48]
E
And we love Father Paul.
- [115:49]
C
Love Father Paul.
- [115:49]
A
He was good to us.
- [115:50]
C
He was. He was great to us. He gave us some sweet drinks. Trinkets from up there.
- [115:53]
A
Not trinkets.
- [115:55]
C
Right. You know, I mean, I think I can say that they're trinkets, but you know, and also, you know, a couple ice cold beers that his family was making. But. And again, I don't know if this is corroborated. I don't know if this is true. I, I have heard that maybe he doesn't bless the field with holy water before the game. And Father Maximilian decided, you know what? I think I'm going to tonight then. It's in the same end zone. Zone that Tyler Loop misses the kick. You found your new. Your, your new team chaplain right there. And, and listen, that. It's just. It is a Wally. It's probably the biggest Wally Pip situation since Wally Pip got Wally Pit by Lou Gehrig.
- [116:33]
A
God bless him.
- [116:34]
C
Yeah, God bless him.
- [116:35]
A
Oh, and God did.
- [116:36]
C
I guess he did.
- [116:37]
A
God kind of made the decision here a little bit. I don't know how they, how the Catholics feel about like signs from God.
- [116:44]
C
Pretty strongly.
- [116:45]
A
Yeah.
- [116:45]
C
And especially if it's a, A priest who's kind of. It's like, oh, this guy's. This guy's talking to God. I know they say they all are. This guy's got his ear.
- [116:54]
A
So like in Avatar, the little alway tree.
- [116:58]
C
Correct.
- [116:58]
A
Lands on Jacob Sully. Yes. The little leaf.
- [117:00]
C
Yep.
- [117:01]
A
Whatever. Yeah, there it is. And they all go, holy hell. Yep. Don't Kill him. He looks like a doofus, but I guess, you know, they're saying AWOL loves him. Awol, love. Yeah. That's a whole thing. So that's actually what it. The Catholics view that potential rule. Right. As a very obvious sign.
- [117:17]
C
That's a sign from our Lord and Savior.
- [117:20]
A
Now, that. Would that be Father, Son?
- [117:23]
C
It could be the Holy Triumvirate, somebody. The Father, Son and the Holy Ghost, potentially.
- [117:28]
A
Which is.
- [117:29]
B
Yeah.
- [117:30]
C
Espiritu Santo.
- [117:32]
A
I'll tell you.
- [117:32]
C
Or in the name of the Father, the Son, Holy Spirit.
- [117:34]
A
I'll tell you what. If it's making folks miss kicks, go to playoffs, I think a lot more people are going to start buying into Catholicism in Pittsburgh. I think you might be right.
- [117:42]
C
Tomlin.
- [117:42]
E
T.J. watt and Rashi.
- [117:45]
B
Big Ben.
- [117:45]
C
No. Cam Hayward.
- [117:46]
B
Huh?
- [117:46]
A
Cam Hayward had a game of his life, Dominic. Offense, defense and special teams.
- [117:51]
E
Four of them.
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F
Yep.
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E
Right there. One, two, three, four.
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A
Boom. I don't know if they're going to have enough wooden pews around Pittsburgh for what's going on right now.
- [117:58]
E
They're not. I think those cast get baptized tomorrow.
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A
You are.
- [118:01]
E
I'm already baptized. I don't know why I said that.
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A
Catholic Church?
- [118:07]
E
No.
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A
Oh.
- [118:08]
E
Broughton Presbyterian. Thank you. Which is a branch of Catholicism.
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A
Got it.
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E
As you know, I could tell, I went a lot.
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A
Branch of Christianity. Whatever. You get it. Catholicism is also a branch of Christianity. Christianity means.
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C
It's kind of the overarching.
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E
A long time since ccd.
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A
That means Jesus. Yeah. CCD was a good time. Saturdays, I got booted. Okay. I was pretty.
- [118:36]
E
Huh?
- [118:36]
A
What's that?
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B
What was that?
- [118:38]
A
Thank you.
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B
What was that?
- [118:40]
A
What's that?
- [118:40]
D
I used to have to go wearing my. I used to get the opportunity to go wearing my football pants because I had a game directly after it. So I'd be clunking in there in my cleats and my pants and then go take, you know, my CCD class and go to play a game.
- [118:52]
A
Says everybody have ccd. That's what I'm learning about.
- [118:55]
C
It's.
- [118:55]
E
It's basically Sunday school. Yeah.
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A
Yeah. But it's on Saturday morning, wasn't it?
- [118:59]
E
Yeah, it was Saturday morning.
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A
I was on Tuesday night. Yeah.
- [119:02]
B
Boom.
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A
Oh. Saturday morning was much better. And there's nothing me and my brothers disliked more. Respectfully. We were pulling teeth not to go. I'll tell you what, if it was a nighttime one, I would have been very angry. I think I would not have enjoyed getting. I, I, I'm surprised you said Saturday morning. I thought that would have Pissed you off, too?
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B
Yeah.
- [119:18]
A
Oh, no, it had something to do. It was something to do. I had soccer probably at some point, but it was like, something to do. I didn't watch that. You know, I didn't watch that.
- [119:25]
F
So just Saturday morning cartoons.
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A
I'm a whole. Watching cartoons. You know that we all know that we all know. I'm not watching.
- [119:31]
F
Missed out.
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A
I'm going to ccd. Going. I don't know. Did my dad go? Yeah, you listen, all right. They're saying.
- [119:43]
C
Yep, exactly.
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A
Shut up.
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C
Listen, all right.
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A
All I know is people from other elementary schools are going, so there's a chance to meet more people, talk to more people. What a time CCD was. That was a nice little gathering. Obviously, I didn't learn enough.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Because I didn't know that if you throw some holy water down, the other team's gonna miss a kick. I wonder if they're fucking preaching that in ccd. They need to start certainly in Pittsburgh in that time. You do. We all know Father Maximilian and what his heavenly hands did. He might be getting a little bit more power, huh? Are we looking at maybe next Pope here? Father Maximilian, Is that how he goes? Is that how the steps go here?
- [120:21]
C
He's got a ways to go. He needs to, you know, climb the ladder a little bit more. But after something like that, you know, Pope Leo might look at him and be like, this guy's got.
- [120:30]
E
He's Pope Leo at the Bears game.
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F
But Pope Leo got.
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D
Is he gonna go. He's gonna go to a Bears game.
- [120:36]
F
From the bottom of the bear number two. See, that's a good point.
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A
Pope Leo legit. I mean, Chicago. So he started as a priest. Yes, in Chicago.
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C
I want to say Philadelphia, maybe, but from Chicago, Yes.
- [120:51]
A
Goes over there, then he goes to Latin America, I think somewhere.
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C
Yeah, somewhere.
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A
And then he goes to Italy, and then he becomes the guy. Yeah.
- [120:57]
C
Becomes a cardinal at some point.
- [120:59]
B
And then there's something with Seattle, with the Pope. Anytime. There's been a new Pope announced over the last three popes, Seattle has gone to the Super Bowl.
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A
So they see the grace.
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B
Yeah.
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E
One seat. Answer.
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A
Bowls.
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B
Oh, sorry. Yeah. One's the answer.
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A
Oh, boy. Oh, no. Something's got to give here. Was that Father Maximilian? Because he also exists now, too.
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C
Well, I was going to say the. The sitting Pope has never had skin in the game. He does this year. You know, those previous two popes, those guys don't give a. About, you know, NFL football.
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A
I thought.
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B
I thought the. The one before was a huge hat.
- [121:30]
C
JPJ II Yeah, I thought he loved Hasselback. There's arguments out there, but no John.
- [121:36]
B
Paul, you know, thought he had Sean Alexander tattoo again.
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A
Cole Musgrove, 23, is reporting on his X account. 2005, a new pope is elected. Seahawks win 13 games, advanced. Super Bowl 2013, a new pope selected. Seahawks win 13 games, advanced Super Bowl 2025, new pubs elected. Seahawks win 13 games, and you tell me who's writing a story. Also a lot of turnover for the Popes. I didn't know it was this quick. Feels pretty quick for the Pope.
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D
It's usually not right.
- [122:04]
C
Well, it's because they're, you know, old is.
- [122:06]
B
Yeah.
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A
Dying off and maybe rest in peace to all.
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B
Yeah. Well, Leo.
- [122:15]
A
Well, the ones.
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B
Most of us.
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A
Let's get to a break.
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B
All right.
- [122:20]
A
On the other side, we'll obviously break down everything we weren't able to touch and then. Yeah, we'll skirt right into a Tuesday. No money, no football tonight. No.
- [122:29]
B
No more weekday prime time, I guess. Next.
- [122:31]
A
Next Monday.
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B
Yeah.
- [122:33]
D
There tgo anything tonight.
- [122:34]
A
No, tomorrow. It was Friday, that. How was it? I enjoyed it. It came down to the last hole and it was entertaining. But Friday night, ain't nobody watching that, so I, you know, same issues as we've always had. Speaking of watching things, more people, more people are watching now than ever. Let's make sure we're getting football right. These rules analysts. I just learned of this dude's existence. I don't know where he paid his dues or earned his actual ref stripes. Can't have him. Can't take it. What's his name? Chase.
- [123:10]
C
Yes.
- [123:10]
A
I had a bunch of people saying McAfee talking about his co worker. I don't fucking know that guy. I'm talking for the good of ball, dude. For the good of ball. We need somebody who's good in there, you know, like that is what we need. We need somebody that's good a ball. Now maybe he just had an off night. Maybe they feel obligated to stick up for the refs or whatever it is, but like for the good of both. Then I have Connie Carberg. First ever NFL scout, I think. Connie, sure.
- [123:35]
F
First scout.
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A
First female. Okay, first female scout. She wrote a book. She go. She tweets me after. I go, refs are ass. Rules analyst also asks. This is not great. She goes, so many people pulling for the Carolina pants. I'm pulling for ball. Yeah, I'm pulling for ball right now. Alec Pierce getting ejected in his biggest game. That was bad. Cuz the guy runs into him. It's like, yeah, right. These refs. Come on, come on.
- [123:58]
F
This a lot of eyes right now at tmac.opi. that was.
- [124:03]
A
Well, that was the one.
- [124:04]
F
Unbelievable.
- [124:05]
A
He did push him a little hard there. All right, dude.
- [124:08]
B
Let alone the two point conversion on and let's not forget about that with Seattle a couple weeks ago. That has paid dividends for that team.
- [124:14]
A
Okay? So let's just make sure we're all on point. It matters. Everything matters. Now let's just remember that when we're getting in there and you're representing all of ball. I don't care who's getting screwed or who's benefiting from the call. I just worry about ball. That's what we worry. We worry about ball.
- [124:30]
F
Yeah.
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D
It's a lot harder than it looks. I think that that gig, the good ones are very good and the other ones, you know, know have some more.
- [124:37]
A
I don't think he can just drop anybody in, which makes me feel like the NFL should maybe say like, hey, for primetime games we are going to provide somebody. Gene Ster works every primetime game. He's great. He's great and he knows everything about everything. And he'll even say, ah, by the book it says he probably caught it. But in the moment, I don't think he's speaking for ball. Like he's representing football as a whole. We need good doing that because ball is like this. Let's keep it going like this.
- [125:13]
B
Yeah.
- [125:14]
F
I do like when the analysts stand up for the players too.
- [125:17]
A
Yeah.
- [125:17]
F
J.J. dano, maybe Orlovsky can do it actually.
- [125:21]
A
He knows all the rules, hands down. A lot of people saying Dano knows everything there. Yeah.
- [125:26]
B
I don't know, Lou. Dick might know more, I think.
- [125:29]
C
Well, that's kind of what it is. What is it? Just a dick measuring contest between these guys about who knows more about football. Can we talk about the game?
- [125:37]
A
Great game. Let's get to a break. I just need these refs to do you mean it's a hard job. We get it. But we need you to do good. And rules analyst guy in the booth. You're working for the people. You're not working for the refs.
- [125:51]
D
Yeah, because they're buddies. They're in a weird spot. They got to know that going into though.
- [125:54]
A
Like you're working for ball, brother. Yeah, but there are contractors. I mean who the are you? Who's paying you right now? Who's paying? Well, it's where I come from. Does this guy even ref?
- [126:05]
B
No idea.
- [126:05]
A
I've never seen him.
- [126:07]
F
I don't know I. I would assume that's a prerequisite.
- [126:11]
D
I don't know. I don't know if it is. I don't think you've had to ref, right?
- [126:16]
B
Yeah.
- [126:16]
D
Blandino didn't ref, and then he got.
- [126:18]
A
The review job, so then he.
- [126:19]
D
But he's good at it.
- [126:21]
A
Yeah. River Ron, did this guy ever ref?
- [126:24]
F
He's.
- [126:25]
A
He's a bit of a ghost. We were just digging back here, and he was a video replay official for.
- [126:29]
I
A couple years, but I don't see.
- [126:31]
A
Any NFL on field. That's what I'm saying. I don't think this guy's ever refed. Like, whenever he popped up and was talking, I'm like, who is this guy? He must be really good. And I'm listening. I'm like, who put this guy here? How'd this guy become the voice of ball? And one thing leads to another, and all of a sudden I'm burying co workers.
- [126:48]
E
There is a challenge coin available on ebay, presented to official replay official Mike Chase from Super bowl lv.
- [126:59]
A
All right, let's buy that challenge. Maybe we can get this gig being the ref. Consultant. Consultants. Atlanta's hired two of them already, huh?
- [127:09]
D
Okay, I'd like to see. I'd like to sit in on some of those meetings, actually.
- [127:11]
A
They hire two consultants, and then they promote president to president and CEO who's already been there. So then we hire outside people to do stuff whenever the person that's been there is being promoted. I don't know. That doesn't sound. That sounds. Maybe the outside firms came in, were like, hey, this is really the only guy you got, Beatles. Let's make him CEO. And then if you can also make him GM and head coach, I'd probably be good. But don't worry about. About sporology and zrg. You'll get. Get to the bottom of it. Sporology. Go ahead and scroll through who they got.
- [127:45]
F
Sure. A bunch of ball.
- [127:46]
A
Ball knowers. Yeah.
- [127:47]
E
He might be wrong, but. I mean, his site might be wrong, but doesn't look like any on field. It just looks like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 years as video replay.
- [127:57]
A
What year. What year were Those?
- [127:58]
E
Were those 19 to 24.
- [127:59]
A
That was right during the pass interference one, which we all agreed was the worst time of the reviews. You'll get better. Needs to Hell yeah.
- [128:11]
B
Okay.
- [128:11]
A
Go to ball for the good of all.
- [128:16]
D
It's a valuable spot, a very valuable spot that that person educates everybody watching the game.
- [128:21]
A
You're speaking for the sport. The refs, too. White caps as well can't have them bns but rules analysts definitely to.
- [128:31]
B
Let'S.
- [128:31]
A
Get to a break and I'm not rooting for any team. I'm rooting for ball ball Maybe just.
- [128:38]
F
Put the other guy in there.
- [128:39]
A
Oh yeah.
- [128:40]
B
Love that work.
- [128:41]
F
He's got the shirt on from game shirt he got it in his I.
- [128:45]
A
Watched that back a couple times. The one that he said was no good.
- [128:49]
C
Dead on.
- [128:50]
B
Hello.
- [128:50]
A
Couple new angles.
- [128:52]
C
Yeah.
- [128:52]
A
Feels like that one might have missed exactly. In Utah, right.
- [128:55]
C
Yeah.
- [128:56]
A
Jonah.
- [128:57]
C
Exactly.
- [128:58]
A
If I recall.
- [128:59]
C
Yeah.
- [129:00]
A
No, that wasn't good. I'm telling you I was right there. That thing was no good.
- [129:04]
B
Other side.
- [129:05]
A
Hey Steve, how come everybody in here is saying that it was good including the one I was Ray Fox standing right there. It did not go good. It was not. Go ahead.
- [129:15]
E
Chase was also the super bowl replay Official for the 2020 Super Bowl. In the 20202024 Super Bowl.
- [129:22]
A
That's where challenge coins from you can have it. We got this guy fresh out of the let's go back and check how he did.
- [129:30]
E
Doesn't look great.
- [129:32]
A
What do they have percentages on?
- [129:34]
B
No.
- [129:34]
A
Correct. Good luck. Chase, you're a part of ball now in a big way.
- [129:40]
C
Yep.
- [129:41]
A
You're speaking for it to a lot to a lot of people. Make sure we're doing that properly. You get to and we're thankful for you if you get it right.
- [129:53]
F
That's right.
- [129:54]
A
If not meritocracy. We need new.
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F
Hi there.
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A
Surprise. 30 for 30 presents. Booyah. Can I get a witness with the congregation?
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D
You can't stop. Authenticity.
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A
Booyah. Stuart was exactly like you saw him on camera. Off camera. He died. Dialed it up 10%. Can you imagine the impact of young black boys and girls looking at that.
- [131:43]
F
Going, I feel seen.
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I
He changed the culture. He changed sports stream.
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B
Booyah.
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A
Presented by Modelo right now on the ESPN app.
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B
Football.
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A
He's the greatest. That's A.J. hawk. The toxic tables here at Boston. Connor and that Ty Schmidt. One half of the Hammer Dad Cowboys AP Ton is here. Tone on DraftKings. When 60% of the bets are on something this weekend, how did the public fare? You know, because in the past, we had been ass, you know, and the books had beat us and aj, I'd like to let you know we tied. Oh, good. Yeah. I needed a win, though. I needed a win. And I'm. I'm not going to blame Jack Carr, okay? Because I appreciate Jack Carr's contributions to the United States of America and to society. But I flipped this coin right here for that Seattle, San Francisco. Because I've been on Seattle this entire time. And these axes, as if they were the 1849 49ers that were looking for gold out there in California. Felt like that was the right play. Because Jack Carr's challenge coin told me as such, I will not hold this against Jack Carr. Even though immediately after the game ended, I a Jack Car. Because I gotta remember, Jack Car saved the world numerous times.
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C
Numerous times, truly.
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A
And if it wasn't for us documenting it, nobody would have known that Jack Car saved the world numerous times. Most recently UFO out of nowhere.
- [133:11]
B
Yeah. Invasion.
- [133:12]
E
Yeah, that was crazy.
- [133:13]
A
A bunch of aliens pop out of some portal over here. They're gonna hit a kill switch for the entire planet. Yeah, right.
- [133:20]
C
Exactly.
- [133:20]
F
Still can't believe that butt one's right here.
- [133:22]
A
Right out there under our noses. I know I. I should. When I was buying a property, remember, we had to go to a council meeting and all that to rezone this. I feel like that should have been something that was talked about.
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D
Right?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Disclosed.
- [133:35]
A
Yeah. Disclosure.
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D
Like if someone dies in the house, don't you. Aren't you supposed to disclose that the realtor is supposed to.
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A
My disclosure. We're talking about here.
- [133:43]
F
Oh.
- [133:44]
A
Maybe. Maybe we need a little bit more so that those situations don't happen. Because what if Jack cars not here. We're not ready.
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C
We're done.
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A
I had that alien killing gun.
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C
Yeah.
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E
Yeah.
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A
That I got off the Internet.
- [133:52]
E
Sure.
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A
But I wouldn't have been able to use it.
- [133:55]
E
You might have got a couple, but all of them.
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D
We'll send Bill out there.
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F
He wouldn't have got that big.
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A
I don't know. When that big one turns and looks at Bill, I think Bill's natural reaction because it would be any human, not Jack Carr. Any human's natural reaction would be to kind of run. Quiver a little bit.
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B
Run away from the Jack.
- [134:12]
A
Are actually cracking jokes. Looks like that this one stopped on the way in.
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C
Yeah, exactly.
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B
Jeez.
- [134:17]
A
Boom, bang. Pow, boom, boom. Right in the head. Right in the collarbone, right in the dick exposed. All those. I think so. Jack Carr's challenge coin. Obviously not great to us. Jack Carr as a whole, though. Good for society. So we tie 7 3. Feels like we did well, though. Hey, we should be pretty proud of what we did here. And congrats to you on winning the season, buddy. Congrats to you.
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D
Yeah.
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A
You have a prestigious award that I know you'll be proud of. Congratulations. You actually win these.
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B
Wow.
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C
No way.
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A
Because you saw it so well. This is what you win. What about the playoffs?
- [134:52]
F
So.
- [134:52]
A
Oh, interesting. Put this a Don. It's not over yet.
- [134:55]
F
Hold the phone.
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A
Hold the phone. These might stay here. You know, I love these right here.
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D
I picture myself wearing those things. I already. In my mind. Those are already mine.
- [135:04]
A
No, I've already thought about it as well. Wow. I'm bummed out.
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E
But those are sea biscuits, by the way.
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D
If I want to fly an open air airplane or something.
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C
Those are jockey goggles.
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A
These are Brian Hernandez Jr's goggles. Okay.
- [135:17]
B
Everybody knows.
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A
Everybody knows. Brock and Rod. That's what they say. Brian Hernandez Jr. Right here.
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B
Okay.
- [135:24]
A
These are his. Okay. He could see it better than anybody else. That's why he had these goggles. There's a. There's little layers that he used to just peel off. He's the one that actually invented the windshield wiper thing that they do. So whenever we give you these, it means you're seeing the field better than everybody else, which is what you would be doing if you were to win that strap. This strap this year. But turns out I still got a few weeks to save this.
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C
That's right.
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B
Yes. You do.
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A
Brack and ride. But boy, seeing it's not easy this year.
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C
No, it's not.
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A
Whoever wins this this year is going to earn it through great picks and great vision. Yeah, they are of the str future. And that's what this represents. Age. So if this ends up in your little bookshelf room up there in your attic, you should take great pride in it and know that I will miss it mightily.
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E
You ever put those on?
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A
No, because it would be disrespectful to Brian the rider.
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D
Someone should strap them on. Someone should put them on and see what they look like.
- [136:13]
F
It might be a sign. It's only one of what? Can we put the teams up there, the playoff teams? I think they're only. It's only one this.
- [136:21]
E
Oh, I see what you're doing.
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A
That's a horse, huh?
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B
Yeah.
- [136:24]
F
It's not on. Actually, they're not even on there. Cause they're one seat.
- [136:28]
A
You're talking about Denver Broncos.
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B
What about the.
- [136:31]
A
You think Brian the rider Hernandez Jr. Said that?
- [136:34]
F
Nah, they don't wear that. Rodeo bride or. Yeah, I mean, it would either. Obviously, the colts didn't make it, so.
- [136:42]
A
Boy, they've been bucking us off the fucking day the whole time, haven't they? I mean, we've been going bareback on that thing with spurs, you know, on this horse every single season. This year we're number one. Bang, bang, boom. Seven straight. Yeah, seven straight loss.
- [137:01]
D
That was a very accurate representation of the season.
- [137:04]
A
I'm part of the Montana State rodeo team, remember?
- [137:07]
D
Oh, yeah, I bet. Did you wrestle that bull? Didn't you wrestle that bull down? You said, did you? Is it true?
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A
That's the bull.
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D
You asked the people, hey, I don't want to hurt this 9,000 pound animal. Are you sure? I can really turtle like torque them like you tell me to.
- [137:23]
A
Are you asking, is it true? As if.
- [137:26]
D
I heard rumors that said you might have asked that.
- [137:29]
A
Yeah, yeah. Did I tell you that particular rumor one time?
- [137:32]
D
I think you told everybody that rumor.
- [137:34]
A
Acknowledgment of being an. Just because they had.
- [137:37]
D
I'm gonna break his neck though, right?
- [137:38]
A
I don't know if I. I don't.
- [137:39]
D
Want to break his neck.
- [137:40]
A
I don't want to hurt the calf.
- [137:41]
D
You know, I think it's a valid question, though. I think it's a valid question.
- [137:43]
A
Put it down. By the way, that thing. Late. Hey, that thing, late, late. Leaner there. But yeah, I certainly had to ask like this. Looks like I'm hurting the cat. People are gonna be really pissed somewhere. You're gonna hurt this thing. Let me go tell this thing that you're gonna hurt. £10,000. Things got horns. What I'm asking you to do is knock it in front of this thing so it doesn't kill you. You think you are gonna hurt this particular. Well, I guess it was a dumb question. Yeah, it was a dumb question that. Thanks.
- [138:12]
E
Next one rodeos in town this weekend.
- [138:14]
A
I'll tell you what, if I was to go, wouldn't be my first, but won't be my last two. If these little bull riders, they get in there.
- [138:21]
B
Oh yeah.
- [138:22]
A
Incredible.
- [138:22]
D
Yeah, yeah.
- [138:23]
C
Wear helmets now. They got nothing to be afraid of.
- [138:26]
A
Okay.
- [138:26]
B
They all wear helmets off.
- [138:28]
A
That's what Ty said. Yeah.
- [138:30]
D
Yeah, he is.
- [138:30]
E
Forgot about that.
- [138:32]
A
Oh, on that note now I don't know what's going on with bull riders. I hope they got beats.
- [138:37]
B
Me neither.
- [138:37]
A
These bulls are fucking bucking better than they've ever bucked in the PBRs. Obviously worthy of a watch if it's on in between other stuff. Speaking of like they got helmets on now. So. You know the wild and wonderful Wand Wandle us.
- [138:50]
B
Yeah.
- [138:51]
C
The Wallendo no nets.
- [138:53]
A
Throughout the entire time, they have been the family that has done death defying stunts for the entire country to watch live. We're very thankful for them. They're the original, you know, jackass. They're the original crazy folks to do stuff. And it was good entertainment. I think their entire family committed to it. And then it became like, hey, worst thing that could happen here is we're bungee jumping over Niagara Falls, you know, because they're like kind of locked in. And I as just mere moral idiot saw the worst thing that could happen there is bungee jumping over Niagara Falls. That actually sounds pretty sick. You know, it would check the box just one time. So I think because of how much we learned about how much the Wanda La could actually die, like obviously that particular form of entertainment got dumbed down on a linear television version because we'd be watching the Internet and people would be doing like actual should die stuff. And we'd like see it. It's like, wow, I can't believe I said but tv, I think laws and injuries and insurance and everything got too big where we couldn't really have something that could really go for it anymore. Really did feel like that was a lost entertainment because they tried it a couple times. We're walking across this, we're walking across this and then you watch it and it's them not really being entertaining and Everybody. It's hard to just buy into the not actually dying. Morbid. But that's what we're selling here, is death defying act and stunt. That's what we're watching. This Alec Honnell thing he's about to do.
- [140:18]
D
Yes.
- [140:20]
A
They're saying he's fucking.
- [140:22]
C
Yeah. Nothing.
- [140:23]
A
Free solo climbing. He's free solo climbing a building. A very tall one in Thai.
- [140:28]
C
Taiwan, I think.
- [140:29]
A
In Taiwan or live. Live.
- [140:31]
B
Live.
- [140:32]
D
Yeah, live. So if we see him fall, though.
- [140:34]
B
You won't.
- [140:35]
D
You'll just see him falling. They won't show him, like, hitting the ground.
- [140:38]
B
No. You have to find that on the Internet.
- [140:39]
A
Correct.
- [140:40]
B
Yeah.
- [140:41]
D
So that's all. It'll be very jarring. It will be terrible. But I have faith that he's gonna make it.
- [140:44]
A
I. I have faith he's gonna make it. And hopefully out of camera view, they'll have a net down there that'll catch them.
- [140:50]
E
Nope.
- [140:51]
B
That would make sense. It's got to be pretty strong. The tenth or the fifth story or whatever, brother.
- [140:57]
A
They got nets outside of buildings. I don't know if you heard about people working in Turkey. They don't want to work anymore. Okay. They figured that whole thing out. But I'm saying I didn't think I would be alive again for an actual death stunt happening on TV or what it is. I don't think Hannah was signing up for anything other than it is.
- [141:17]
D
Even if there is a that, though, think if you're that high up and you do fall with how much wind you're gonna get blasted back into the building. Like, you're not gonna make it to the net, bro.
- [141:25]
A
What was that thing called? Free Solo. Was this doc right?
- [141:27]
B
Yes.
- [141:28]
A
I mean, palms are sweaty. Watching the documentary.
- [141:31]
C
Oh, yeah.
- [141:31]
A
I mean, like, actual. The. If this is real, which it seems like it's gonna be, I mean, that's gonna be a jarring. Like, we don't get a lot of that anymore. I don't think. I don't think there's. I don't know how many of those are going to exist going forward, honestly. Shout the Honda, dude. What a maniac.
- [141:46]
F
Yeah.
- [141:47]
B
Lunatic.
- [141:47]
A
I was at that. What was that? Disney's upfronts to announce. Our show is being licensed by Disney and espn, and he was the only guy I really fanboyed about. I was walking by. Holy fuck. You're the Alex. Alec. No. Alec. Yep. Nice to meet you. Oh, I love you, man. He said he knows the show. He watched it on the Internet. I'm like, don't need to hear that means you saw a clip of us talking about. About you. What I did say about you though, how we all feel. He's different, man.
- [142:17]
C
Literally.
- [142:17]
A
He is.
- [142:19]
B
He.
- [142:19]
D
He's been on. Right. I think we've had him on.
- [142:21]
C
Yeah, yeah.
- [142:21]
B
He's got a kid now.
- [142:22]
A
Yeah. He's family.
- [142:23]
B
Yeah. Full blown family, man.
- [142:24]
D
I wonder if that changes your mindset.
- [142:27]
A
Similar. I. I don't know if she's like a rock climber but she's some sort of. I think she understands this person just doesn't have like the fear.
- [142:36]
B
Yeah. She is also a rock climber but she does use ropes. She's not a free solo or like Hond because she was in the. They were just dating at the time in the free solo dock, living in his van and she went with him to El Capitan.
- [142:49]
E
Can you imagine if she was just at a cotton?
- [142:51]
A
Yeah, she couldn't be. I don't think that would ever.
- [142:53]
C
You're marrying someone like this if you don't have similar interests.
- [142:56]
A
This is such an interesting thing because this documentary is so, so old. So we're just assuming everybody has seen it. If you have not seen it worthy of a watch. That this human exists. This like the fact that this human exists out here in our world that we're in, we're talking about living in the woods. Taking months of his life to just look at a rock to see how he could climb it with no ropes and then every single fingertip could be the end of it. It's crazy. And just not even really considering the outcome. That is certainly right around the corner, every single movement. And then there was another doc about Canadian fellow Martin Mark.
- [143:30]
B
Andre Leclair.
- [143:31]
A
Yeah, yeah.
- [143:32]
B
He was an ice climb.
- [143:33]
A
He's free solo ice climber at the tip of mountains. So like at the very top of mountains you gotta hike up to the tallest mountains and then at the top of them there's just ice, I guess on the capsules. You know, when you draw a mountain, the top of it normally has like a little white thing. Those are just. He's just climbing out with no ropes. And I. The documentaries came out pretty close to each other and when we're watching the one or the other, I think in Mark Andres. In Mark Andres. Yeah.
- [143:56]
B
Honnold his interview.
- [143:57]
A
Yeah, yeah. He said he looked up, they were like climbing two things and they like looked over it. It was like each other basically seeing each other and it's like those two are considered the two best of all time. And it's like the fact that they're doing it. Yeah. Here's the alpinist is the name of this one worthy of a watch worthy. Now that football slowing down. We got no Monday night football tonight.
- [144:16]
B
Yeah.
- [144:17]
A
Okay. So you're going to hear a lot of these types of conversations from us as AJ's connection is unstable. He might have been dangling and you know, he might have been out there.
- [144:25]
D
This guy didn't make it. I didn't hear, I cut out. But I know this, this gentleman didn't make it.
- [144:29]
A
Right.
- [144:29]
B
Yeah. He ended up passing away. Honnold actually talks about it too in the alpinist about how like people would know where Honnold is going. Like he has a girlfriend. He would notify people. Like that Leclerc guy would just disappear and go climb. Go climb mountains because he wanted to, not because he wanted anyone to know he was doing it.
- [144:46]
A
No pictures, no videos of a lot of them.
- [144:48]
B
Yeah.
- [144:49]
A
So literally just coming back, hey, I climbed that. Okay. Can we see it?
- [144:54]
F
Love of the game.
- [144:54]
A
What? Just love of the game.
- [144:56]
B
Legit.
- [144:56]
A
That, that H thing. If they're really doing that. I kind of looked into it this weekend just because I didn't think it would be possible in this modern era that we're in to be able to do that. That's gigantic. Yeah, the numbers on that are going to be outrageous. This dude's like actual spider man. He's like actual spider man. He's climbing a face of a rock that has like tiny crevices and he's thousands of feet feet in the air and he's just sitting there like this and he. They have a shot somehow because other rock climbers that is just like right on top of him basically zoomed out with a fish high lens and it's just like death just because of his little tiny little fingies like this.
- [145:34]
F
And you said he like looks at what kind of what other like recon is it on? Like how the.
- [145:40]
D
He knows his path. He knows his whole path going up before he knows like the different paths and all that stuff.
- [145:45]
A
Capitan right? Was what it was called. Yeah.
- [145:47]
B
Yeah.
- [145:48]
A
Never been climbed free solo. So they documented him because he didn't like a lot of his ship being documented. So they documented him climbing something that these climbers said was impossible to climb free solo. So he did it and it's literally like people have ropes and that they put into these so they'll put like something in between cracks and then that'll hold them and then if you fall, you know you have something and then you spin and then you Hit it. It's like this dude. This dude is not nothing. Nothing on him. Just a T shirt. A thing on the back that's like chalk or whatever.
- [146:15]
B
Chalk? Yeah.
- [146:16]
A
All right, here we go. And it grew just like a little kid on like a monkey bar.
- [146:20]
B
Insane.
- [146:20]
A
Like 2000, however many thousand feet above sky.
- [146:24]
F
That's crazy.
- [146:25]
D
It's insane to watch how they, you know, there's. I don't know if it's another Docker, like an hour YouTube thing. They talked about filming him when he was free soloing. The guys that climbed around him and filmed him and all of that. Like that.
- [146:36]
F
That.
- [146:36]
D
That alone is a great watch if you want to see it too. When they talk about like it. It was real. Like, hey, what if he falls and dies? We're going to be documenting this dude's death. Like, do we put this out? Like it's. It's pretty cool.
- [146:47]
A
There's a. There's, you know, I don't know how many of these humans exist, but there's some X Games humans that just exist out there. Like those squirrel suit wearers.
- [146:55]
B
Yeah, sure. The B. The base jumpers. There's a base jumper documentary on YouTube. It's called 60 Seconds to Hell. And actually the main character. Character, in the end, that's what happens. Like they pass away and it is insane.
- [147:06]
A
Is that the one where like six of them out of the eight of them?
- [147:08]
B
I think so.
- [147:09]
A
Yeah. I've seen that.
- [147:10]
D
They hit a mountain, everything. Yeah.
- [147:14]
B
One of the ladies that they follow is like, hey, when you get into this, you know, like one of my best friends is going to die. Cuz we're BASE jumpers. This is what happens. And then throughout the. At the end of the dock, like one of the main characters in it.
- [147:26]
A
How come. How about committing full life to it?
- [147:28]
B
It's crazy.
- [147:29]
A
That's crazy. That is. That's an incredible commitment. Hond. Good luck.
- [147:32]
B
Yeah, good luck. Get him. Good luck.
- [147:34]
D
I'm watching. I'll watch.
- [147:35]
A
Me too. Yeah, me too. And I'm going to have the sway. I'm. Come on.
- [147:39]
B
I don't know if I'll be able to even. Just talking about the free solo doc and seeing that photo makes me.
- [147:43]
A
I got really uncomfortable watching which.
- [147:45]
D
He's not going to fall.
- [147:47]
A
He's too good. Yeah. If there's any. Well, can we show that? So, I mean, there's a lot of stuff right. For him to grab, it looks like. Listen to me. Listen to me. I know.
- [148:04]
B
I wonder how.
- [148:04]
D
Imagine how windy it is too up there.
- [148:07]
B
I wonder how climbers feel about it. Like, I wonder if they're like, it's a building. It's going to be pretty easy for him. For him. Yeah. Or if it's like more so. Yeah. I don't know what the hell he's going to grow.
- [148:17]
D
There's other guys that climb buildings out there that you can see, but I don't know if they're this high.
- [148:20]
A
Yeah, for sure, sure. But they're usually with like wiring and stuff, you know, like that's the cabling. So him just not being cabled up. I assume that the. Oh, I don't know. But looking at it. Yeah.
- [148:32]
B
It's hard to tell how it goes back.
- [148:34]
D
You know how you go up and then you're like the overhang. It looks like they have that whole climb. Like you're. It's even tougher. Yeah.
- [148:41]
A
And how long is it going to take? It starts at 8pm Eastern at least. Isn't that going to take.
- [148:46]
D
And what if the weather's terrible?
- [148:47]
F
Terrible?
- [148:47]
D
What if. Is it say, like contingent on weather? I would assume if it's horrible weather, he's not going to climb on this.
- [148:52]
A
Pastrana was going to jump in Vegas and it was windy and I think they delayed it or something.
- [148:56]
B
Definitely contingent weather because in the free solo dock too, El Capitani is supposed to climb it one day and like they wake up and it's like raining and they have to push it.
- [149:03]
A
Yeah. I think there was clouds too eventually and something that they changed off because.
- [149:07]
B
They watched the Doppler like those pro. Even LeClaire. Like they watch the Doppler just to make sure you can't get caught in the rain while you're halfway up. No ropes, Guy.
- [149:16]
A
Good luck, Alec.
- [149:16]
B
Good luck. Get at him.
- [149:18]
A
Good luck. How many of those are walking around just with no sense of fear?
- [149:22]
C
Tc?
- [149:23]
E
Yep.
- [149:23]
B
Yeah. At least two.
- [149:24]
A
Yes. Tom. Yeah, Tom and Alex. Dc.
- [149:27]
D
Oh, Ian. Rap Sheet. Remember he said he's not scared of anything.
- [149:31]
B
Blake Groupie.
- [149:32]
D
He did a pencil on the. He did a pencil on the bungee jump Rapaport did. Remember he said he. He penciled into his bungee jump feet first?
- [149:41]
A
Oh yeah. And then it flipped. Whipped him at the end. He got whiplash at the bottom. Yeah, I do remember that. I'm not scared. Yeah. Now. Now it's all coming back to me. Rap Sheet. Tom Cruise, Alec Honnold. Who else was mentioned there?
- [149:53]
B
Blake Groupie. Just. I mean he'll submarine into anything, I'm telling you.
- [149:57]
A
We've been saying that for a few weeks. That Might be the smallest guy in the history of the NFL. I mean, it is for real. It is unbelievable.
- [150:05]
D
What are his dims? Do you know his dims?
- [150:07]
B
5. 5, 1. 10.
- [150:09]
D
Hey, he can kick for my team any day if he's going to do that.
- [150:13]
A
I legitimately feel that this isn't the first time he has done this. He has done this before where he just. Full send. Full send on a football field. I respect it so, so much. It is so awesome. Legit.
- [150:25]
B
What's he even doing that close to.
- [150:27]
A
Yeah, he's down in there.
- [150:29]
F
Yeah.
- [150:30]
B
I love it.
- [150:30]
D
What if he had knocked that ball out, though? His helmet almost got that ball.
- [150:33]
A
Exactly. That's what I'm saying. So I respect him. Blake, we need more Blake. Nowhere near the size of him. We're. We're good with the size. We got this one figured out. He had a 60 artist, so it doesn't hold him back at all. But, like, the full. And he's. He's got moxie, too.
- [150:46]
B
Yeah.
- [150:47]
A
I mean, he is a showman out there. I mean, he is. I respect the way Blake groupie operates. And. Yeah, this is the only thing that needs to be said is what I tweeted immediately. Hey, nothing else needs to be said about him. They were saying some stuff about him on the Internet.
- [151:00]
B
It's ridiculous.
- [151:01]
A
Ridiculous. I don't like it.
- [151:02]
B
Uncalled for.
- [151:03]
A
Fernando Mendoza said he understood it, though. The Internet's always undefeated. Speaking of the Internet, felt like everybody was positive about a commentator. We need to show love, Mike Tirico.
- [151:11]
B
Hell, yeah.
- [151:14]
A
Good call, lad.
- [151:15]
C
Great call.
- [151:16]
A
Good call. I think people were pumped up about what Mike Tirico was doing last night, and it felt like Mike Tirico was just living in the game. Like, hey, I'm in the game. Understood what was on the line, understood what the futures were potentially for both franchises, depending upon the outcome. And had his most juice whenever it mattered the most. I thought it was a. I don't know what they call it. A perfect game. I don't know how you go about doing it, but I appreciate Tirico a lot for what he did last night during that game. Made a great game even better, which is what we're looking for. Age.
- [151:44]
D
That's what the great broadcasters do, right?
- [151:46]
A
They just add to the.
- [151:47]
D
The aura, the excitement of a game. Tirrico's been awesome for what, 30, 40 years? Like, everything the guy does like, he is. He's awesome. I think he's one of the best there is.
- [151:56]
A
Super smooth and everything he does. And then it has the ability to be able to read the room and bring the juice. And it's like whenever he does his interview with Chris Collinsworth at the beginning of the game, whenever he throws it over to him and says, you know, this team likes to ba ba, ba. Feels like he's genuinely listening as opposed to just getting through it, what's happening. Because that probably is scripted and rehearsed, but it feels like Tirico actually listening, like actually present, actually in the moment whenever he's calling it. And have that type of confidence obviously comes from working on it a lot, but also having like a natural chops that not a lot of people have. He can call anything. Dude can host anything. He can call anything. And his addition back into the NFL's primetime booth whenever Al Michaels moved to Amazon and he gets Sunday Night Football has been a blessing for ball. An absolute blessing for ball. Best in game.
- [152:40]
F
Absolutely. Still got his fastball. Just the way he sets up moments then, you know, obviously he knows when to lay out like a true, true pro. Best in the biz.
- [152:49]
A
Yeah. I appreciate what they did last night. I do. We sent him a text. I sent him a text, told him congratulations. He didn't have a number saved. Mike Tico football sent him a. A group shot of us here saying great job. And he was all pumped up. He said, great job with Fernando today.
- [153:03]
B
Okay.
- [153:03]
F
Boom.
- [153:04]
E
So, okay, nice.
- [153:05]
F
Watch the program.
- [153:06]
A
Always study him.
- [153:07]
F
Hell yeah.
- [153:07]
A
I assume he just has everything.
- [153:09]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [153:10]
A
No, yeah, because he's got to do world events, he's got to do Olympics.
- [153:13]
B
Doing NBA. I'm pretty sure.
- [153:14]
A
Yeah. Because he's interviewing Jordan, which is great. I mean he is.
- [153:17]
F
Well, interview.
- [153:19]
A
He interviewed Jordan.
- [153:20]
C
Yeah.
- [153:20]
A
Hey, that was a good play by them every.
- [153:22]
D
Every, Every Sunday, right?
- [153:24]
A
They got us, didn't they?
- [153:25]
B
Oh, I think he was there for Christmas.
- [153:28]
A
Well, I don't. They ran the video probably in the house.
- [153:31]
D
It's still going. Are.
- [153:32]
F
Is that.
- [153:32]
D
That still going?
- [153:33]
A
I'm not 100% sure. Live stream starting soon here with Carly Ursales. Supposed to go off at 2:30. It's 2:47 6 right now. Did I forget about it until this moment? Yeah, yeah, I'd say, yeah.
- [153:44]
B
Maybe they said it. Let's fire him, actually.
- [153:46]
A
I mean, maybe Carly saw some names pop up and go. Kevin Stefanski, Indianapolis. Wait a minute, wait. This team came from Baltimore, didn't it? Yeah. Harbaugh's available. Oh, oh, yeah. Maybe we'll bring him John Harbaugh to lead the squad.
- [154:00]
B
John. Eric Sullivan available.
- [154:02]
A
Maybe we need John Eric Sullivan.
- [154:04]
E
True.
- [154:05]
A
Hey, Ty's been doing some research on the GM department mostly because allegedly a packer guy's about to go. Right? I mean, that is.
- [154:11]
B
Yeah.
- [154:12]
C
John Eric Sullivan, who has been with the Packers. I believe he was there the entire time you were there as well. AJ he is currently the VP of player personnel and he actually got several GM interviews last year. Didn't get any. But his name is, is very hot right now in the prospective GM candidate.
- [154:30]
A
If you talk about packers front office people.
- [154:33]
C
Exactly. Elliot Wolf, who, I mean, I don't know what his actual title is with the pseudo, pseudo, pseudo gm. He comes from the Packers. His dad, Ron Wolf was the one who traded for Brett Favre. And you know, Schneider, who. He wasn't the GM, but he was McCarthy's, you know, top aide when he was there and then did other things for the front office. So like they have a long line of these kind of guys whose names we don't know who end up going out on and getting GM roles or other big roles in front offices elsewhere.
- [155:02]
A
AJ do you think that's because the packers don't have owners? So an owner. So all these other roles have pick up maybe some other jobs as well? You know, does that make sense? Like, do some of these personnel people come a little bit better equipped for the general management job? Is that why they get plucked at a more often rate than maybe other places? Or is it because the stability that they've been able to have for so long? What are your thoughts on why Green Bay packers personnel people seemingly do a great job whenever they get the opportunity to run an organization?
- [155:27]
D
Yeah, I don't know. They, they do a good job. A lot of it goes back, goes back like 20 years. Like John Eric Sullivan too. Like, he's, he's a dude. Like, he is a dude. If he get, he should get a b, a GM eventually. I'm sure he might get one this hiring cycle, it sounds like. But yeah, I don't know. They have like a good, you know, when you go to training camp, did all of your scouts come back and hang out like during camp and watch like all your regional and scouts that usually live like, like your guy who lives in Houston comes up like they're all there the first 10, 12, 15 days of camp. That's when I would like realize how good they were. All of them would come around. That's when we'd see them all together and you realize, hey, we're in pretty good hands. These guys know ball. They know what they're doing. They know what to look for. And they were like real humans. Like, I always respected them. I always enjoyed being around them.
- [156:08]
A
Yeah, they're road warriors out there, the scouts, whenever they're kind of cut their teeth in the NFL personnel department. Why do you think. Think packers people have been good? Like what John did up there in Seattle.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Crazy.
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B
Insane.
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A
Think about the amount of like, you have to take to make the decisions that he made. First of all, we're moving on from Russ. Okay. Get him out of here. Oh, that's cute. Pete Carroll. That's fun. Moving on from him. Both beloved in Seattle. So you're going to make a decision that is going to piss a lot of people off. You're sitting in a chair where decisions have to be made, and you're going to make a hard decision, and there's going to be a lot of people pissed. It's going to be emotional and even you might not want to do it, but, you know, it's the right move for him to sit in that pocket, probably sweat his pits whenever he was making those decisions. Oh, man, the ass. I couldn't even imagine, Louise. I mean, all of it I see as he's doing that. But to sit in the pocket and make those decisions for the good of the program. For the good of the program. It's like that is. Is a trait that not a lot of people have. Even people that sit in chairs, that decisions have to be made. Like, I think there's a lot of people scared to make decisions that'll piss somebody off or piss people off. I think their shins don't want it. Especially with the rapid reaction that you currently have right now with how loud social media is and how much everybody knows about everything, it feels like making a decision that's gonna piss off a lot of people scares a lot of people and decision makers into making tough decisions. So I think they're cowards. Whenever they send it to out of the building, for instance, or pass it the buck or don't make the decisions. Like, it's like, hey, you're supposed to be doing that. Do that. And it's like for him to do that in Seattle without loud of God, their stadium was getting taken over. Yeah, okay. Their fans were not happy with him. He was still there. He was the constant. So for him to go through it, make the right decisions and have it on, it's like, God damn.
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D
That is come from Ted Thompson. I think a lot of it comes from Ted Thompson, RIP he was great GI for Green Bay. The Green Bay Packers. And also, like such a unique human to where, I promise you, like Ted Thompson, he was not bothered by outside noise, by the media, by any of that. All he cared about was like, what do I have to do to give these coaches the best players and give them a chance to win a Super Bowl? Like, that's all Ted Thompson cared about. I think a lot of these guys worked under Ted, so I think they definitely learned at a young age, like, hey, you got to do whatever you think is right for the team. Not what, you know, some blogger or what someone outside of this building thinks. Like, you know the team better than anybody.
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A
It can get loud, though.
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F
Oh, yeah, but it's like a real, real, you know, culture over there and some other place, too. Like, you have that real culture. You have that real communication from the top down and, like, stability. So when you come from a place like that, typically when you go somewhere else, you know how to build a team. You know how to have patience. Patience. You know how to have your, you know, whatever your belief system is, hey, we're a draft and the developed type team. We don't do a ton of free agency, but we will do a little bit more. And then as the game evolves, you gotta be able to evolve, too. So just like, when you go on from a great place in your coaching tree, you gotta hire the right people around you and shit, you gotta get lucky with some of the players that you go out there and draft and they actually show up and, you know, outperform probably their draft. You know, you draft the guy, Richard Sherman in the fifth round, and he goes on, you know, Russell Wilson in the third round, he goes on to be what he was. So it's always just a combination of it all, I think.
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A
Yeah. And I think the culture being all the way back instilled with McDonald, who might win coach of the year, whatever. It's like, well, that's the next 20 years at least.
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F
We'll see.
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A
Whoa.
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F
Just gonna crown them because they got a by week?
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A
I think so. I think I am. He's calling plays. McDonald's calling the defense, and they're 112111, whatever it is with Houston being the 2212, whatever it is on the other side of it. So we always talk about it with offensive coordinators, about how well we got the play caller for whatever. It's like their defense has got the. They got the defensive play caller, like, and they got the defense that's going to be able to keep them in every game. And if Sam Darnold's going to do what Sam Darnold's going to do. It's like, are they going to be able to keep up offense coordinator wise? Because all the offense coordinators probably going to get head coaching gigs, if I had to guess.
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C
Well, and you have to give, you know, tip your hat to him for that too, because like last year they weren't terrible, but after a year he was like, Ryan Grubbs, not the guy. Like, get his ass out of here. We're going to fire him, bring in Clint Kubiak and we see how much things change. So, like, he's got a track record already of kind of having his finger on the pulse there and knowing like, hey, you know, we. We're not terrible, but like, we need to get better.
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B
And dk, like DK Metcalf. See you later, Geno. See you later. Pete Carroll, two years ago. Lock it. Yeah, well, long on the tooth. Lock it. But. But still, same thing. Like, think about the amount of superstar and like legendary guys that he basically was like, nope, like we can do better. And then actually going and doing that much better. Like, it's incredible.
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A
And I guess they did not paint over all the walls. Okay, so that story was obviously blown out of proportion, but it's what we were told. Okay, so we're only going by what we were told. Yeah. Congrats to the Seattle Seahawks.
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F
Same style too, of when they, you know, going in the run of rush, like, great defense, good run game. Now you just needed a quarterback.
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A
It's not gonna it up and we'll.
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F
See if Sam is that guy.
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B
Yeah. Tbd.
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A
I'll tell you what, it was a big game.
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B
Big game.
- [161:25]
A
Big game. He did. He did it a big game. Couple big moments. Dead. He dead. He dead.
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C
He dead.
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E
He dead.
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F
He did.
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E
14 wins, backs back years.
- [161:39]
F
13 points.
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B
13 points against all you needed. Uhhuh.
- [161:42]
C
Oh, you just said he just didn't need to it up.
- [161:45]
D
That's all.
- [161:45]
F
That's what I said, that's all you needed. He said get it done in the playoffs.
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I
Real good.
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A
Untackable, that guy. Sharon, are they lasting in past attempts?
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F
They were second to last.
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D
Oh, go take.
- [162:03]
A
Go on Sam. Hell yes, go on, Sam. Even when he does it, they say he didn't.
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C
Yeah, but he did want to.
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A
It's unbelievable. Good for them. I'm proud of them. All right, let's get to some overreactions. Wait, wait, wait. Speaking of overreactions, you know, Seattle Seahawks have a lot of big time famous fans. We have friend of the program who is a diehard Seattle Seahawks fan. He has been super jacked up about the Seahawks team literally every single ever since they hired McDonald. I think now he's going to argue he's been a fan his entire life. I just became of an age where I can meet these people. You know, it gets into his entirety. But there is a man who's a comedian, who's also an impersonator and an impressionist and a guy who's going to be one of the biggest stars probably on earth over the next 10 years or so, who is a die hard Seattle Seahawks fan. I asked him yesterday. Yesterday. Send me a one minute video selfie video. Okay. Kind of just explaining this particular Seattle Seahawks team from his perspective and why he thinks they're great. This is what we got back in return. Hey, thanks, Pat. Look, when you asked me to make a video about coach Mike McDonald, I immediately said yes.
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G
The only challenge is going to be keeping it short.
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A
I mean, we're not talking about me in the bedroom. We're talking about the coach of the Seattle Seahawks, Mike McDonald. D I have an internal power rankings of the most important people in my life and it's amazing how quickly he's passed most of my closest friends and relatives. I mean, my stepdad bought me a laptop when he proposed to my mom in 2003. Welcome back to who Gives a Because My new number one is Mike McDonald. Now, it's pretty obvious that he should win coach of the year, but I'm biased. So I decided to reach out to some of his main competition and get their perspective. Here's what Mike V. Had to say. Coach of the year. Yeah, that's got to be Mike McDonald. Anyone voting for me has to be insane. Drake May is doing all the work. Without him balling out at qb, I'd be the defensive coordinator at the University of Phoenix. Online. Too soon? Wow, thanks, Mike Vrabel. I wonder what coach Ben Johnson has to say.
- [163:57]
B
Well, the thing that makes Coach McDonald better than me is the level of competition. I mean, this guy went 143 and the toughest, toughest division in football. And I barely won the Central against Jordan Love. And Carson wins.
- [164:10]
A
Not to mention the point differential.
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B
He's over there winning blowouts and I'm scraping by.
- [164:16]
A
We only beat the Giants by four points. Four points.
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B
I'm lucky I wasn't fired for that.
- [164:22]
A
Wow, those guys really know what's up. Yeah, and I agree Coach McDonald is obviously a football genius, but I've gotten to know him personally this past year. And I got gotta say, he's a great guy. Beyond the X's and O's, he genuinely loves his players. And they love him. And they want to play their asses off for him and for the city. That's why he's been so successful and led us to a franchise best 143 record this year. And on top of all that, I mean, come on, the dude is handsome.
- [164:47]
G
As Mike McDonald, looks like the math.
- [164:49]
A
Teacher your mom emails nudes to. And now there's just one thing left to do. Win that super bowl, baby. This is our year, Pat. I can feel it. I can feel it in my bones. It could be the edible talking, but with Sammy Darnold slinging the rock, JSN going deep and the defense laying everybody out, this is our year. Isn't that right, Coach Adam?
- [165:09]
C
I thought you said this whole thing.
- [165:10]
A
Was going to be for your charity. Oh, no, I said for McAfee. For the. For the Pat McAfee Show. Oh, dude, are you even wearing pants right now?
- [165:22]
B
I mean, what the hell?
- [165:23]
A
Heck do you wish?
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D
No, I'm not.
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A
It's a bye week. Back to you in the studio, Pat. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks, Adam. Unedited. That's how it arrived.
- [165:37]
B
Love that age.
- [165:38]
A
That is how that video arrived. Yes. Unbelievable, the impressions. I'm. I'm excited to hear V's thoughts. If he. If that gets to him.
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B
Johnson.
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A
Johnson. All right, we appreciate you. I think we could say McDonald was on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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D
Oh, yeah, McDonald. Great actor, obviously.
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A
Yeah.
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D
What do you mean in that. In the video with Adam. He's doing a little gimmick with Adam.
- [166:03]
A
Let's get to some overreactions. You're acting right now. Acting like he was acting. And that was not a candid call. Yeah, please.
- [166:10]
B
Acting like a douche, AJ.
- [166:13]
A
Yeah, yeah. Not Coach McDonald.
- [166:15]
D
What if Adam Ray would have stood up? Just meet out at the very end of that with Coach McDonald.
- [166:20]
A
I still have yet to see the final second there. We cut that off at two seconds after he said it, so. Hey, Connor's shoes, too.
- [166:28]
D
I don't know.
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A
Well, he does have a pair of hollies over there. Got them before they were released. It's very kind of Connor to give his. Because he wears the same size, you see. Yeah. Adam Ray, he gave up his hallies to him. That was very interesting. Sounds like it. What's that?
- [166:41]
D
Sure sounds interesting.
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A
Yes. Conor didn't think he was going to say yes. Hey, you need help with anything?
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B
Oh, you need help moving?
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A
Yeah.
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B
What day today?
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A
I can't no. Yeah. Today. Yeah, actually. You're coming. Hey, man, you want. Your shoes are nice. You want them?
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B
You want the rest of my sandwich?
- [167:01]
A
Yeah, I do, actually, but I'm still kind of hungry.
- [167:04]
B
Yeah.
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A
But I'm gonna take it.
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B
Okay.
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D
You offered though, right?
- [167:08]
B
Yes, I did.
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A
Yes, he did.
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B
Yes, I did.
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A
And Adam, Red Way should have taken him. I'm sitting it. I'm putting myself in Adam Ray's position on the way out. It's been a great day. Great day. Great juice.
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B
Yeah. Hysteric and Sweet's appearance as well.
- [167:24]
A
Energy is outrageous. I mean, energy was outrageous. Yes. In a suite.
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B
Yeah.
- [167:27]
A
I mean, awesome. Energy is outrageous. Out of Adam Ray. It was great. On the way out, we had just gotten Tyrese Halberton's new shoes. Shout out to the Hallies, by the way.
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C
Shout out.
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A
I think they're available now. Got a couple pairs of those. And we're all opening them up, and it was a classic. Hey, how you wear my size? That's really cool. And Connor goes, do you want them? Yeah, yeah. And Adam just immediately. Yeah, yeah.
- [167:50]
B
Give me those.
- [167:50]
A
Closed the box. Walked out of here. He's gone to a plane. To a plane.
- [167:54]
B
He's not going home.
- [167:55]
A
Gone, gone. He's out of here and he's got the Hallies. And I thought it was a really cool moment by Connor. I was like, that's really nice of you to do that.
- [168:03]
B
That.
- [168:04]
A
And then Conor goes, you thought he was going to say yes and take those. And he. Ladies and gentlemen, we have a press conference that has just started right now, and Adam Ray has a pair of highs, and Carly is speaking about the.
- [168:17]
J
Colts loyalty and support as always, but particularly this season. You're right to be frustrated with how the latter part of our season went. I'm pissed. We are all pissed. Every season is unique, and this season really was a tale of two seasons in one. We are all encouraged. We were all encouraged by our first half. We experienced a lot of progress, which gives us optimism for the future and the direction we are heading as a team. Then adversity struck. But no matter what the circumstances are, we have to be able to find a way to win and finish games. Even though we didn't get the results we expected. I'm confident in what we're building and how we're building it. So with that said, Chris will continue as our general manager and Shane will continue as our head coach for this next season. We have been very clear with Chris and Shane that giving them another opportunity means that the sense of urgency for them to deliver and perform has never been higher.
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A
Okay. Okay.
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J
Chris and Shane are both capable of facing this challenge head on and finding a way to achieve the results that our fans deserve, which is winning games.
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A
Okay.
- [169:53]
J
Getting to the postseason and ultimately winning championships. Ultimately, though, I am responsible for our team's performance and the promise that we made to be the best. Our extremely disappointing second half of the season wasn't up to our standard, and that falls on me. At the same time, there were moments during the season that gave me reason to believe that we can achieve sustained success under Chris and Shane's leadership. Good design is never done. And as with every off season, we will work diligently to improve and find a way to win. You guys, I will take questions now.
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A
Okay. All right, Carly, let's go. All right, Carly. The pressure to perform is high right now on Chris and Shane.
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E
Yeah.
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A
Basically she said they know this is the last year you either win or you don't. So we've already kind of went all in, trading two number ones for a player. We don't have a quarterback signed officially other than Riley Leonard and ar. Okay, maybe AR comes back healthier than ever and does his. Jonathan Taylor's probably going to want a new contract, if I had to guess. Similar situation, though. Don't make the playoffs and he's going to be demanding money, so that's going to be fun to go through. Pittman, Michael Pittman, dog need him. Alec Pierce, dog need him. I mean, there's a lot of decisions that have to get made and a lot of money that has to be paid and we don't have ones. But I appreciate the fact that Carly did say, hey, this is fucking it.
- [171:29]
C
Urgency's never been higher.
- [171:31]
A
Now, Ty and Connor did make some noises while announcements were being made there from Ms. Carly Ursay Gordon.
- [171:38]
B
That leaky air conditioning unit was pissing me off. That's what I. I was so freaking mad.
- [171:43]
A
Conor followed up. Even now after she was really getting into the meat of it all.
- [171:48]
E
Yeah.
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A
Just couldn't handle it. I think a lot of Colts fans, no matter what she said there were going to be like, okay. But I do appreciate the fact that she did say, like, hey, they know that this is it now. Granted, maybe one year under their belt, half year, whatever, as owners, maybe they feel like right now is not a time yet for us to do a full overhaul. Okay. That's a lot of decisions that are going to have to get made. That's a lot of hiring that's going to have to happen after the firing. Are we equipped and in the position to be able to do that right now? Then people immediately go, well, you have to be. That's kind of the way it is. It's like, ah, weighing all these options, I have no idea, I have no idea how they get to it. But boy, there was a lot of Colts fans hoping for something different, I think next year. Because different brings like optimism naturally.
- [172:31]
F
Yep.
- [172:31]
A
Natural optimism is just going to fall into place. Doesn't even matter who you hire. There's just a natural thought that something's going to be different next year as opposed to the last nine years. You know, like that's what people are going to think. But boy, if you go back to when we were 8 1, those are good old days. Yeah, those are great old days.
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B
One inch injury.
- [172:50]
F
Yeah.
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A
I mean that's really what it is. Every year though. It's like that.
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F
Yeah, that can't be like, that can't be one injury. Right. It's National Football League. Every year somebody's gonna get hurt. But it was nothing that she could have said at that moment that would have made Colts fans or any fans feel any differently. She already made the decision that, well, they already made the decision. The Big three made the decision that, that Chris and Shane were coming back. So there's nothing she was gonna say, but it did. I don't know. After watching, I feel a little more bummed out, Dot as a coach, I do. But I expect I just. Well, honestly, I'm not a big prepared speech type of guy ever. Where like off the. Okay, you're clearly reading like a prepared statement. Like obviously you have some bullet points you want to hit, but you know, hey, you hit it. You have an opening statement, you take some questions. So maybe that's just what turned me off, A.J. but yeah, I'm pretty, pretty bummed out.
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A
It's the reading, I think, that also immediately bums you out, you know, because it's like, let's get back onto it. But I, I think Carly's a very diligent person for sure. Really. I already. We know that. Yeah. They could have telepromptered, you know, in the back. Could have given her an opportunity. I don't know how that whole thing goes. Yeah, maybe a pre recorded statement. She is taking questions. I wonder what they're going to be. Probably a lot of like, why don't.
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D
You come to this decision?
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A
Yeah, how, how so quickly too. Like when did you make.
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D
But she said it in the thing. Like there was moments. Did she didn't say down the stretch. There's moments during the season where she. They truly believe in the vision that they have there.
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H
Right?
- [174:11]
A
Yeah. And yes, she said that.
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D
I said, hey, what are those? When were those? Could you explain those moments to us? Could you give us an example? One or two.
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A
Oh, man.
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E
It's a good follow up.
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A
H. What have been.
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D
Thank you.
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F
Can we get beamed in there?
- [174:24]
A
Yeah, let's see what they're doing. Oh, you mean like us actually time Anthony there. Anthony Calhoun's got to be there. When did you make this decision? Did anybody ask that? Carly Ursay Gordon also question what as saying injuries are never an excuse. You know injuries are going to happen, as she said. Okay, so how they. So what?
- [174:43]
F
What excuse?
- [174:44]
A
These. So why we do seven straight? It's brutal, man. It's all right. Tough decisions. We signed dimes.
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B
He's ready by week five.
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A
Riley though, at the begin.
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C
Yeah, exactly.
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D
He looked good, man.
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F
He did look good.
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A
Really good.
- [175:02]
B
Finishing third.
- [175:02]
A
Happy for him.
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D
Was happy for him.
- [175:04]
A
I thought he didn't know the offense or something like I. I thought even though I want the Notre Dame and Duke. Okay, so I assume he is a very smart guy but like I assume he didn't know how to operate the offense or like something, you know, like I assume there was something that they see behind the scenes that we don't see. Maybe the guy can't take a damn quarterback center exchange. Like maybe, maybe there's all these things. I didn't know what it was. And then I'm watching him, I'm like, this is. Do we. Are we all thinking the same thing?
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E
Slanging it.
- [175:31]
A
He's big, he's fast. And the only worry was he couldn't throw the ball. Like when he was at Notre Dame. Couldn't throw the ball. Duke couldn't throw the ball. Could he complete some because he was an athlete, sure. But he was just an athlete playing quarterback. Watching him like actually, yeah, spin it and like layer a throw throws. It's like, man, this guy became a throwing talent as well. I think that's good news for the coaches in development in this entire thing, but also great news for us that Riley potentially became a guy. Because when we were watching my Notre Dame and at Duke, it was very evident he could not throw. So if you could stop him from running, you were probably going to put them in a bad spot. Then he hurts his ankle whenever he was at Duke and then he makes it all the way to the national champ. I mean he is real deal. But like spinning it Never a thing. That was, that was why he wasn't drafted as I mean he's got high school basketball highlights where he is cooking. I mean he is nasty if he can spin it now, this dude might be an actual. I mean we might be looking at an actual guy. Oh yeah.
- [176:29]
F
And obviously it's very small sample size but you're going against the best at least for the first half. Like the best defense in the league. And like you said, most of us had that. We were held back. Okay, can he throw the ball downfield? His first touchdown, pal. Pierce, the one he missed. Well, Pittman, it was kind of on both his hands. He had to dive out for it. But I thought that was a great throw. He deep corner. The second touchdown appears as well. So yeah, showing he has the ability and the fundamentals to do that show. I mean it also shows you why Shane is staying as a good coach to have him, you know, at least look this good against Houston. And once again it's a small sample size but he gave himself a chance to at least be considered going to next year and having some meaningful reps and like training camping offseason Bailey McComas.
- [177:08]
A
Was losing his mind, I bet. Notre Dame fan. Did you see him? I. I put out a tweet that was like we're watching Riley right now. He's tall, he's very athletic. He can throw now. I didn't know he could do this. Are we all thinking the same thing? He responded Yup, yup. Like three. Yup. We're all thinking it. We're all thinking the same thing as Notre Dame fan. He's got a lot of fans in Indiana already and the moxie of the dude, he's. He's real athlete, this guy.
- [177:32]
B
Oh yeah.
- [177:33]
A
Phil Rivers too. Mentor. Now granted, Phil Rivers might be head coach somewhere. We don't know. We're not 100% sure. I. That's Riley right there. Yeah. Natural, easy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean rqb. RQB room. If they were to play basketball against any other quarterback.
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B
Room.
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D
Oh yeah.
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A
Anywhere. Yeah. Three on three. We win the windmill off the two star. Yeah. We got Riley ar and I assume dimes can play very good basketball.
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F
Sure.
- [178:05]
A
If I had to guess, I think. I think Riley Leonard, Anthony Richardson probably beat everybody else all by themselves. And Danny Dimes, I assume he can add somewhere. I. I don't even know if he's a Hooper.
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F
I. I would assume he's a point guard.
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D
I think dimes can play.
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E
This might be Houston because Davis Mills is 6, 9 and yeah. CJ can shoot that thing.
- [178:27]
B
New England, too. Drake May.
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A
Oh, yeah.
- [178:30]
B
Pastronaut, Josh. Unbelievable. I don't know if you guys know, but cutlets can throw down. Yeah.
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A
I trust him knowing what's going on out there.
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B
Yeah, always. I trust Stadto head coach, obviously.
- [178:42]
A
Of course. Of course. Like Gimmy V. We might actually have Jimmy Valvano coach on our team.
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C
Okay.
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A
To be clear. Chance from the heavens, obviously.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Rest in peace. Thank you for your contribution to society in sports. That's huge, man. Yeah.
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C
Every year, a lot of money.
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A
Every year they say the amount of money, it's like 100% to it. Because there's big time actors. Yeah. They were called something. I forget the name.
- [179:11]
E
Financiers, maybe.
- [179:13]
D
Donors.
- [179:14]
A
Yeah, I guess it's donors. But it's a different class of donors that basically fund all the, like the. The front office, like the people that are president of it. Working it. Because there's a lot of people working on that every day.
- [179:25]
E
The donations don't pay for the workers.
- [179:27]
A
Bingo. The donations go directly to actual charity. And then they got somebody paying for all the donation from somebody or something.
- [179:34]
C
Benefactors, maybe.
- [179:35]
B
Yeah.
- [179:36]
A
I forget what it is. Endowments. Yeah, the endowments.
- [179:39]
D
Endowments to pay, like scholarships.
- [179:42]
A
Yeah. Once I learned. Because you assume all these big things like, oh, this is some sort of somehow. And it's like no 100% donations actually go because they got somebody doing that like, thank you for your contributions. Because you start looking into the cancer world and your family trees. That thing's everywhere. Oh, yeah. Pulling for everybody right now. Hey, Trano is going through it right now.
- [180:00]
C
Yeah, big time.
- [180:01]
A
Let's go. Let's go, brother. He's gonna have a new liver concert in here in the Thunderdome.
- [180:06]
C
Okay.
- [180:07]
A
Can't wait for that. Year of the Buffalo. They had some heaters back.
- [180:10]
C
Oh, yeah.
- [180:12]
E
Great songs.
- [180:13]
A
Better than Foxy Golf.
- [180:14]
D
Wow.
- [180:15]
A
He probably is. He's pretty dang. Yeah, he's better than Foxy Golf. Yeah, it's a thing. We'll see him.
- [180:19]
D
Foxy doesn't believe that.
- [180:20]
A
Foxy, you haven't been out there much, huh? Have you? I haven't seen you out there. It's funny you say that. On Saturday it was 35 degrees and I went out there and chipped the butt a little bit outside. Fox moved to a neighborhood where he has a golf course right outside. Yeah, it's very close. Foxy's living good. Foxy, you deserve it. It's the greatest thing ever. I'm just cooped up way Too cooped up. Got to be outside a little bit. Yeah, we are a little cooped up.
- [180:43]
B
Out.
- [180:43]
A
Lot of that means ball weather. So cold. Wife and I were talking about how the summer cannot wait for the warm weather for Mackenzie, you know?
- [180:52]
C
Yeah, that's the big thing.
- [180:52]
A
Getting. Getting her outside, because everything now is inside, inside, inside. It's like we need to get her outside. We need to get her outside. Experiencing running. I near kicking a ball. I don't know how long it's going to take, but we need her. I think she's a lefty, too. I mean, so you're talking about maybe a little messy out there.
- [181:08]
D
Yeah.
- [181:09]
A
Excited to watch that. We got the property. You got how many kids?
- [181:13]
C
4.
- [181:14]
A
Imagine in that house in Ohio.
- [181:16]
B
Well, we're outside in that house.
- [181:20]
A
You mean old. Old cba.
- [181:22]
B
Yeah.
- [181:22]
D
Don't matter. Kids can fight with each other no matter what size the house is. They will pick on each other and punch and fight and strangle each other no matter what.
- [181:29]
B
Nice.
- [181:30]
A
Nice. All right. Hey, that's Hawk football.
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I
That's right.
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B
Yeah, it is.
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A
Speaking of football, we need to lift. Listen and read how people around the football universe feel about their football teams on this glorious overreaction Monday, I put out a tweet saying, hey, I can't wait to hear your thoughts on your squad, what they should do should somebody be fired or hired or you guys moving and grooving your way to a Lombardi. All you got to do is use the hashtag. I don't want to overreact. Best ones will make show. And Ty Schmitzer. I just became a trend. Exciting topic this morning. We appreciate you all for participating and shout out to ball for being as awesome as it is. Let's get into it. This is from Tone Thicks. Hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but Father Maximilian Maxwell should immediately be the pope. Have a statue built outside the shore, and all the blessings forever and always.
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C
Amen.
- [182:18]
A
Tony, I don't think you're lying. And I assume a lot of people feel this way in Pittsburgh.
- [182:21]
E
Yeah, we've talked about father quite a bit, and he got a. He got a lot of run last night because. Because of the miss Field goal in that end zone that he was blessing. You know, he wasn't blessing for Ms. Field Goals. He was blessing for health and wealth and wellness and. And all the such. But it just happened to, you know, work out in our factor, and I think he should do it every single game. And I do think he should be the Pope. I don't see why not.
- [182:45]
A
So he's kind of moved Father Paul out and Pope Leo out basically in one clean sweep. Actually, one clean.
- [182:51]
E
What have you done for me lately?
- [182:53]
A
I heard they're also singing oh Father instead of Mama because of what he did.
- [183:00]
E
That place was cranked when Renegade.
- [183:02]
D
Yeah.
- [183:02]
A
Yeah. Last night was awesome in Pittsburgh.
- [183:05]
E
I heard there was fights everywhere. Love to hear it.
- [183:08]
A
Yeah. I mean, that's expected. Baltimore in Pittsburgh.
- [183:11]
B
Yeah.
- [183:12]
A
That's the most expected thing of all time. Remember had a show at an arena that lasted four hours in Pittsburgh. Yeah.
- [183:18]
E
Only one fight.
- [183:19]
A
One fight.
- [183:19]
E
That was a pretty good.
- [183:21]
A
Nobody's talking about it.
- [183:22]
B
Victory.
- [183:24]
A
We're the only ones that have celebrated that fact. Everybody else is like, shouldn't have one. It's like, have you been to Pittsburgh for 10 minutes? Yeah. Whenever everybody's doing their thing. Baltimore people are traveling into Pittsburgh. They thought the game was over with 220 left. Imagine the things at the.
- [183:39]
E
They thought the game was over two.
- [183:41]
A
Seconds right before the field goal.
- [183:43]
F
Yeah. 44 yards.
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B
Yeah.
- [183:44]
A
Oh, standing up likely. Oh my God. 4th and 7 likely gets that catch immediately. You, everybody probably getting it right there in ear shot.
- [183:55]
B
Oh, yeah.
- [183:56]
A
Bang. You bang. Because these are the fans that traveled to Pittsburgh to watch the game live. That's a certain different style of fan as well. To be able to handle that type of situation right here. Oh my God. You, you, you. Probably with other words being said in the Pittsburgh people just have to sit there in complete disbelief. I can't believe this is happening right here. It was 4th and 7. Are you kidding me? They had to be real quiet in that moment.
- [184:22]
E
The hell is Highsmith doing 30 yards down the field?
- [184:26]
A
So many things being questioned by Endzers and all the Baltimore people are saying eat this is a Shittsburgh. And then this guy hops off on the field for a 44 yarder and then place goes ape. And every Baltimore person has to shrimp up right in there. Yeah. Did you see what they did with.
- [184:45]
E
The left wing on for the Ravens on this kick?
- [184:48]
A
No.
- [184:48]
E
They took them and they moved them to the middle to deal with the jumper. I. I don't know if I've ever seen that before.
- [184:55]
A
That's just picking up work.
- [184:56]
E
Okay.
- [184:57]
A
That's picking up work. The. I think I've heard it said before. I don't know if anybody's actually did doing it because normally on the outside there's going to be some sort of rush. As soon as he saw how wide that guy was, he said there's no chance he's going to make it in there because being able to get it from there to the point you have to be very fast. I mean D. But you'll know more. Old buddy knew he was too wide. Probably never going to make it because you're racing a clock there. You know you're racing a clock there.
- [185:19]
F
What's the operation time?
- [185:20]
A
1-311-30125. 1.25 seconds from snap to when the ball is kicked normally. And Loop looks like he's a little closer to. To the ball. So probably like 128129 if I had to guess on this particular one. So if you're never going to be able to get there in 1.3 seconds, you can kind of look for more work. That's a big time move though, because if that guy on the edge gets there.
- [185:41]
B
Oh boy.
- [185:41]
A
I mean you're just kind of eyeballing it there. Yeah. It don't look like he can get in.
- [185:45]
F
Yeah. Not from that angle.
- [185:46]
A
You ever block one?
- [185:48]
F
Not in league, no.
- [185:49]
B
No.
- [185:49]
F
Actually no College.
- [185:51]
A
That's tough.
- [185:52]
F
Yeah.
- [185:53]
A
I don't. It is like I got smiles garbage. What was his get off? Mina had.
- [185:57]
F
Yeah. I would have to run back. 0.23 and he already has the fastest to get off.
- [186:03]
E
That's when you say Usain Bolt.
- [186:05]
F
Yeah.
- [186:05]
A
That's an insane get off. Especially for the. The record breaker. Insane. But that's. That's what you have to do.
- [186:12]
C
No.
- [186:12]
A
Now he moved before a ball. Right. Right as the ball is moving for the field goal. Like you have to have that get off and then you also have to hope that you don't get a good rip. It's like a lot of luck involved there to too. So not only is it insane get off and massive explosion and being all that, it is very difficult to block a kick. That's why these big boys in the middle have been getting them because they people have been really eating up the middle and getting the chops at the top. I think kicking might slow down, might become more arena like for guys to get the ball up. Just forecasting a little bit here because the big boys in the middle are getting bigger and faster.
- [186:50]
B
Yeah.
- [186:51]
A
Jared Verse guys are just getting their hands up to like.
- [186:53]
E
Yeah.
- [186:53]
A
First.
- [186:54]
F
Yeah.
- [186:54]
B
He just got against Atlanta.
- [186:55]
F
That was crazy.
- [186:56]
B
He rolled right in and then it's just like.
- [186:59]
A
Yeah. Ahead. Go ahead. Where are you going?
- [187:02]
B
It's a touchdown.
- [187:03]
A
It is. That's a huge play. That's insanity to think about. I can't believe Tyler Lute missed that. I'm man, this is a big off season for him. Age. It's a big off season for him. He's going to have to go off social media. He's gonna have to.
- [187:17]
D
I felt for him dark right away. Even though I went, I was glad. I was very happy with it watching my kids. We all want the Steelers to win, and we say, hey. They were. They were devastated. When likely caught that, I was like, hey, still got to make the kick, man. Like, still got to make a kick that nothing's guaranteed.
- [187:31]
A
Has to be a good snap, good hold, and a good kick all at the same time. Happening like a symphony with good synergy. You know, all that is taking place and anything could obviously be missed. That move in like that, though.
- [187:44]
F
But shit, Boswell kick look damn near. Yes. Same slice, almost. So for that to happen right like.
- [187:52]
D
That, I mean, right down the middle at first.
- [187:54]
A
Yeah, yeah. And that's not a Boss miss either. But, Boz, that ball normally stays true for Boss. You know, there might be a little movement, but that's half an upright.
- [188:03]
F
That's crazy. And it was crazy to watch Cam Littles like that draw he had on his because it started, like, outside, and they carried like he was.
- [188:11]
A
He's a real talent.
- [188:11]
F
Watching these kicks, man.
- [188:12]
A
Kicker's a big deal, brother.
- [188:14]
F
Huge.
- [188:15]
A
Chris Boswell, I guess, is also getting some Yinzer Heat. I believe the insurance they won. Shouldn't miss that extra point, pal. Okay. Yeah. You're all pro, maybe best in the game. We need you to make an extra point whenever AFC North's on the line. Okay. With some other things sprinkled in, I assume. Is that accurate?
- [188:35]
E
Yeah, yeah. He hit a 57 yard, though.
- [188:38]
C
He did, sure. Yeah.
- [188:40]
E
I mean, I would be singing a different tune if Luke did miss that kick.
- [188:43]
B
Yeah.
- [188:43]
D
If they lost by one, he'd be so pissed.
- [188:46]
A
He's so pissed. Oh, my God. Attabay, Boss, you're gonna be good. Hey, Lou, you're gonna be good, too, buddy. You're gonna be better. Because it doesn't feel like it now, and obviously nobody is happy with it. Nobody. And you should not be, like, definitely have to make that kick. He's gonna be better for that long term. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? Is from Mark Zink. He's spinning a ball on his finger. He's an athlete. Hashtag, I don't want to overreact, but watching statue Bulls run the show while the Bucks had one of the worst collapses in NFL history, knowing Liam Cohen was right here turned Baker into A star built an elite offense and is now thriving elsewhere while we're stuck with Todd was heartbreaking. Sorry about it Mark.
- [189:24]
C
They're not, they're not moving on either.
- [189:26]
A
Is that was that announced today?
- [189:27]
C
Well, that's what Sheffey said. He said, you know again he heard that about the Cardinals and Gannon so you never know. But they have not seen said once that he is on the hot seat or he's going to be fired. And they've been calling for his job for the last really 10 weeks.
- [189:41]
A
It stinks because they were fun to watch.
- [189:43]
B
Awesome.
- [189:43]
A
Vita Vea rolling too. Just the whole thing was so cool.
- [189:47]
B
MVP favorite first first six weeks.
- [189:50]
A
My God. Mike Evans.
- [189:52]
C
They're five and one, right?
- [189:54]
B
Yeah, five and one. Abuka was the rookie of the year. Like he.
- [189:57]
A
This is multiple times now. When was it? A couple years ago. We were at the Texas State Fair and Baker joined us. Yeah, they were really. That was beginning of season. They were real good.
- [190:05]
C
Yep.
- [190:05]
A
And then something happened. What happens? That's what people are asking. Exactly. That's a good question.
- [190:10]
B
Last year they lost at home in the playoffs to the Commanders.
- [190:14]
E
It did.
- [190:14]
B
On the last second field goal.
- [190:16]
A
I remember that. Imagine that loops exactly and they go back and win. That's a whole different thing.
- [190:22]
E
You don't use that as a verb. You're going to kill them, man.
- [190:25]
A
You know what I meant?
- [190:27]
B
Yeah.
- [190:27]
A
Like the kick. Because that ball should have went in that ball. Now Dan Orlovski did a good job.
- [190:34]
B
He did.
- [190:35]
A
He sent it to, to me this morning.
- [190:36]
D
He referenced you. He ref. I saw it live today.
- [190:38]
A
Oh, did he reference me? That's good. I'm happy to.
- [190:40]
D
He said like I, I, I confirmed this with Pat McAfee and Greeny. I think Mag checked off on it. We're okay. Like they, they, they gave you your.
- [190:47]
B
Pretty good that.
- [190:52]
A
It was really good because Orlovsky sent it to me this morning and he was like am I crazy or what Was like the, the caption when he said look at this dude. And it was him recording on his computer, you know. And I don't know coming over like 6:07am Probably I'm sitting in 194 degree sauna with I got a sauna cap now. I got a sauna cap now. So I feel like I'm saving my hair. The only one I could get in time was a Viking one. So I look like an asshole.
- [191:17]
B
That's sick.
- [191:19]
A
That's what I'm doing. Just, you know, Dan Orlovsky sending me over this. I'm sitting there dying, sweat, scrolling through the Internet, trying to see what's happening in the world. Dan Orlofsky. Am I crazy or what? So I look at it, he was pretty accurate. So every single make that loop hits, you know, full head down, all the way, follow through. Because the. The thing that is taught is basically like you're looking to be looking down past your leg, still at the spot as the ball is flying. And I think it's just kind of taught that. So, like you stay in it, you know, like you're supposed to stay in it. But I told Orlovsky, yes, certainly matters because in his last one, he like lifts his head up with the kick almost, and it's like, certainly could be a problem of him not being all the way in it, not trusting it, trying to guide it, and he could probably showcase it by that. Or also as soon as he kicked it, he knew he wasn't good and he wanted to look at it, you know, like, which one leads to what? Like, does your head down lead to good ball contact or does bad ball contact lead to your head coming up? Because you want to see how shitty it is, you know, so there's. It could go either way. I think only loop would know, but feels like he knew immediately that that thing wasn't going in. And I. I hate that for him because that's a. Soon as he looks up, he's hoping to God that that thing somehow was going straight. And then it's not. It's only going more that way because the Father blessed old.
- [192:30]
E
True.
- [192:31]
C
Exactly.
- [192:32]
A
That's a tough time. I hope he's okay. Good luck, bud.
- [192:34]
B
Good luck.
- [192:35]
A
It's going to top Villarreal at Mr. Villarreal, 32. Hashtag. I don't want to react, but it's over for the Niners yet again. When the lights are the brightest, Kyle Shanahan shits the Salah had his defense ready. Shanahan outsmart himself again and had zero answers from Mike McDonald. Kyle can't win the big games. What a joke. McDonald's been able to do this to everybody.
- [192:56]
F
Yeah.
- [192:56]
A
Okay. I think some people are underestimating how good the Seattle Seahawks defense is. And on the offensive side, I was disappointed in what that Niners offense looked.
- [193:04]
F
Look like three points after what, you know, Brock Purdy offense we're able to do the two games leading up to this is a very tough defense, but three points. And then every time, every one of these games, you see that second half stat from Shanahan's tenure, which is insane. I don't know the exact stack, so I don't want to mess it up.
- [193:21]
B
20S down by 10 points in the second half.
- [193:22]
C
Yep.
- [193:23]
A
Insane never won.
- [193:24]
F
Like insane for him. And obviously the great offensive coach that he is to not be able to, we all think, you know, adjust down the stretch of the game. So that was very alarming going into the playoffs because with the defense, you don't think it's a lockdown defense that you're going to hold teams of 17, 19 points, great celebration. So offense going to need to score some points. So that was very alarming if you are a Niners fan.
- [193:47]
A
Did he do some sexual innuendos there? Well, bet he did.
- [193:52]
C
He did.
- [193:53]
A
I don't want to be, you know, dry snitching, but he was lucky he didn't get a penalty rate that there. Hey, with how these refs have been calling us, that's incredibly unlucky. They're going in the score. Christian McCaffrey makes a move. I appreciate that. You know, the big guy's got a little wiggle here. Hey, they got a little wiggle here. But I want to let you know, these refs these days, they're calling that. They are calling that. You got a spotlight on. Is that sexual? Got pick his nose. Is that gang related activity? Yeah, can't have it.
- [194:23]
D
How do you deem something sexual? That's like a personal preference, I think.
- [194:27]
A
Yeah. Because that, honestly, I guess we just learn about the refs a little bit, you know.
- [194:32]
D
Yeah. Like, is the ref hard? Is that.
- [194:34]
A
Then he throws the flag.
- [194:36]
B
That's actually a good question.
- [194:37]
D
That's a very, like, specific thing, I think, of what people are into. I don't know how you make that a rule.
- [194:41]
A
No question.
- [194:44]
D
Like a guy doing push ups. Is that sexual? Probably for somebody.
- [194:49]
A
Oh, man, you're right. H. Hey, you never know. I guess everybody's into their own things, you know, because push up could be pretty. You never know.
- [194:57]
C
Yeah.
- [194:58]
A
Sexual sitting down. You know, we learned about what was going on. Those hammocks.
- [195:02]
C
Exactly. Yeah, exactly.
- [195:03]
D
Oh, mushing it through there.
- [195:05]
A
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I guess we never know. It's in the eye of the beholder. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough. I think we should reword that rule. Rule.
- [195:15]
C
Yeah.
- [195:16]
A
I think we should take the subjectivity out of it. I think there should be strict sexual references that are not allowed. Just in case some of these refs start thinking themselves. I've seen that done before.
- [195:27]
D
Yeah.
- [195:28]
B
Because my first thoughts. Hula hoop.
- [195:29]
F
Boom.
- [195:30]
A
Oh, good call. Yeah. Good call.
- [195:33]
E
Mine was definitely helicopter and penis.
- [195:35]
B
Aha.
- [195:35]
C
See, I think unless a guy actually takes his dick out and starts helicoptering it though, we should be flagging hula hoop.
- [195:41]
A
Yeah, that was a hula. Clearly a hula hoop. Shout out to the boys. Hula hooping over there.
- [195:47]
D
Yeah, yeah.
- [195:48]
A
Let's go to the next one. Doesn't matter. At combat Bernardo. Respect. Hashtag. I don't wanna react, but being a Colts fan is worse for my mental health than my tour in Afghanistan. Was a tenth season.
- [196:01]
B
Whoa.
- [196:01]
A
Of playoffs or bust. What the actual fuck are the Colts doing? How many times are we gonna throw this shit at the wall, watch it slide down and then do it again? That's a great question. Does it matter, brother? It does matter. We appreciate you, man.
- [196:14]
B
Thanks for your service.
- [196:18]
A
Boy, it does feel like those 94 percenters before the season are backing louder than ever.
- [196:24]
B
Yeah.
- [196:24]
A
There was a poll done, AJ if you do recall. What's your optimism level going into the season? Colts were dead last. 94% of the fans said, we think we're going to be ass. Feels like they're backing lines louder than ever at this moment. Remember, we got a lot of good guys.
- [196:38]
D
Yeah.
- [196:39]
A
We like our guys.
- [196:40]
C
Like our guys.
- [196:41]
F
Yeah.
- [196:42]
B
Good.
- [196:42]
D
When's your next first round pick?
- [196:44]
A
So I've been thinking about that. There's some deals I've crafted in my head that could potentially get us a one.
- [196:49]
B
Okay.
- [196:49]
A
We have some pieces. I think there's some non negotiables. Okay. Quentin Nelson Can't. He's cold for life. Need him. Especially he's becoming a vocal leader. We need him. DeForest Buckner had surgery. If he's still playing. I don't know. It was a neck. I don't know what the future is. I don't think we really talked about the Forrest Buckner much. He came and played and then he was out again. Very worried about that. Then he had surgery. I think it went well. I think from what I'm hearing is non negotiable. Everybody else I think should be available.
- [197:17]
B
Okay.
- [197:17]
A
Okay.
- [197:19]
B
I think Patriots would. Yeah, I think Patriots would send you two. Maybe a one for Laatu Latu.
- [197:28]
A
Maybe. Camp's not going anywhere, especially first half of season. Tyler Warren.
- [197:32]
B
Yeah, I assumed he was also off the table.
- [197:34]
A
Yeah, Tyler Warren's not going anywhere. So that's a good call. Leah to Latu.
- [197:37]
B
Who else can't buy them? I probably get a second. Fetch a second for that.
- [197:44]
E
We'll give you saw pennies on the dollar for sauce. Like two Fourths, maybe.
- [197:50]
A
That's not. We're not in that business. You said what? That's not what we're doing.
- [197:54]
B
What are you looking for?
- [197:55]
A
That deal's pretty close right there. That would have to be one. I love Layout too. He's. He's a ball hawk. He's a dog. He's absolutely.
- [198:02]
B
Oh, never mind. Can't. Can't trade for him. He got that Colts tattoo on his shoulder.
- [198:06]
A
That's part of his story. Part of his story.
- [198:08]
B
That's fine.
- [198:09]
A
There'll be a Q. Shipley has a full raven on his back, and then he's got a Pittsburgh steel bridge and he's got a cold horse.
- [198:16]
B
Yeah.
- [198:16]
D
Does he really?
- [198:17]
A
Yes, actually.
- [198:18]
D
Every team. Like every team he played for.
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A
Yeah, he's got his life story on her. Life story on her. Y.
- [198:24]
E
Not everything.
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A
Yeah, every. Every part of every part of his life is on there. But I'm just saying we could make some moves, bundle some pieces, get some stuff. We still have 2, 3, 4, 5.
- [198:33]
B
6 and 7 picks which he eats in.
- [198:37]
A
Uhhuh.
- [198:38]
B
Pierce. What round was he?
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A
You know it.
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B
I think he's a free second round. But he's a second round pick. I'm saying.
- [198:43]
A
Oh, yeah, he.
- [198:44]
B
Ballard eats bruh in the second, third and fourth round.
- [198:48]
A
Yes, he does. Where's Josh Downs?
- [198:51]
B
Third.
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A
Third round. Yeah.
- [198:53]
F
Jonathan Taylor, Second round. Boom.
- [198:55]
A
See, now we're talking.
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B
See, Ballard, Cook.
- [198:58]
E
Oh, he just doesn't like first round.
- [198:59]
B
Picks unless the best. Freaking Nelson.
- [199:03]
A
Yeah. And DeForest Buckner. We gave up DeForest for our first rounder.
- [199:06]
B
Yeah. That's two.
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E
Two out of ten years.
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F
War two for sauce.
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A
And we don't know how that's going to be B. Okay. He got.
- [199:14]
E
I mean, he's picking first in the draft.
- [199:16]
A
Him getting hurt was tough both times. He got hurt tough very early in the games. So it's not even like we saw him in the game. It was like first play of game happens both times. It's like so excited. Sauce is playing. No, he's not. So next year we got full sauce. I completely forgot about full sauce.
- [199:31]
E
You didn't see he's picking first in the draft?
- [199:33]
F
No.
- [199:33]
A
What do you mean by it?
- [199:35]
E
This season, over the 17 games. Games. He had the worst record in the NFL.
- [199:39]
A
Oh, this is.
- [199:40]
F
That's not him. It's not him. He's locked down corner. You throw at him.
- [199:45]
A
I saw that because he came out and said. Yeah, and everybody was attacking him for saying that. It's like Sauce Gardner, he's a corner he's supposed to say, yeah, they're gonna talk their like that. It's kind of what corners do. Then he deleted it. I didn't like that. But then I was told that's what he does.
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C
That was mo.
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A
That's his thing. He will put something in and he's taking it down, I would say, which I kind of like even more.
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F
Get off your chest and all right.
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A
Yeah.
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E
Snapchat for Twitter.
- [200:07]
F
Good gimmick.
- [200:08]
A
Yeah, it's not bad. Now, granted, I don't know if it was the right time to do it, you know, in the situation that has been happening, but hey, a lot of people failing to respect what he has been able to accomplish on a football field. He's potential lockdown now. Who else do we get? Ward.
- [200:23]
B
Ward, who is considering retirement.
- [200:26]
D
Was that the pregame injury?
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C
Yeah.
- [200:28]
A
That was crazy.
- [200:29]
F
Been through a lot.
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A
Yeah. That's unfortunate. So whenever we talk about, about like excuses for why a team doesn't do well, it's like, I guess they exist a lot for every year of the Colts. They need sage over there. They need the sage. It. They need Father Maximilian Maxwell to get over here, throw some. Some of that holy water.
- [200:46]
F
Trade a second round pick for him.
- [200:47]
A
About that Colts.
- [200:49]
F
Yeah. Be worth it.
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D
Father Max Maximilian.
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B
Yeah, he ain't a second round.
- [200:55]
A
We don't have a one, brother.
- [200:56]
F
Put on coconut husk.
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B
You have to offer a percentage. Maybe.
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A
Why do our guys. Maybe that's the problem, dude, that's another question.
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B
I mean, what's your training staff doing? Working on what?
- [201:10]
A
Too many guys, brother. We got. We got too many guys in there all the time. Let's get to the next overreaction. I do appreciate that. Was a good one though.
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C
Yeah, I thought so.
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A
And thanks for your service. Kyle B. The Polish jabroni91 hashtag. I don't want to overextend, but this team went from selling tickets for A$80 16 months ago to hosting its first playoff game in a decade this Saturday night. What a time to be alive. Keep pounding. Congrats, Carolina.
- [201:37]
E
Like the optimism.
- [201:38]
A
I don't even know if 180 was possible because of the fees and everything. I think they were actually paying people to come to the games, shout out to Tepper, shout out to the Panthers, turn that entire thing around quickly. And obviously the record's not the best in the NFL. But hosting a playoff game, what that can do for a community, a city, a fan base, everything special. Special stuff down in Carolina happening. And only up from here, right H. Only up from Here for Carolina.
- [202:00]
D
Oh, yeah. I would expect that atmosphere to be off the charts Saturday night that that team. I would imagine the fans look around and say, man, look like. Look at where we were. And here we are in the playoffs with an actual chance to win it all.
- [202:11]
A
Bryce Young was benched within the last 12 months. I mean, there's so much, so much, much to talk about with the Carolina Panthers and how they've gotten to this spot record. Not the greatest, but in playoffs win NFC south craziness deep.
- [202:23]
F
Yeah, it seems like Dan Morgan was a pretty good hire. I love what T. Mac was able to do this year out at wide receiver. He developed. He was great. Coker these guys, the backfield, the combo in the backfield with Dotto and Hubbard, they got the pieces. They just got to get, you know, more week in and week out. They got to be the same team. I feel like it's a little too up and down, but. But f hosting the Rams coming in. They already have the confidence. They beat him a few weeks ago, so we'll see.
- [202:47]
E
They are, I believe, 8, 0 because it was 70 coming to this 8, 0 off of a loss against the spread. So they're off a loss spreads ten and a half. Maybe they. Maybe they make it nine and zero.
- [203:00]
A
Death taxes Panthers potentially covering after a loss. Ten and a half's a lot of points. I feel like the people think. I think DraftKings thinks that the LA Rams about to play their best football and the biggest stage.
- [203:10]
B
Yeah, is that the biggest home dog in the history of the NFL playoffs for a game? I mean, the only one that I can think of is Saints at Seahawks when Marshawn lynch had the beast Quake. Yeah.
- [203:21]
A
Ten and a half's a lot.
- [203:22]
B
That's insane.
- [203:23]
A
That's a lot of points. All right, let's get to the next overreaction. Speaking of the beast Quake, this from Ryan Bowles. Hashtag. I don't overreact, but I was told the 49ers team was on a heater. These past few weeks look pretty shit to me. Tough, gritty wins is what this team is made of. It's no longer who have they beat, it's now who you have to beat. Seahawks, Super Bowl. Book it. I'll tell you what, them being home field throughout the entirety of the playoffs is potentially very sick for the NFL as a whole. As the numbers go up, getting a chance to showcase our greatest environment that the NFL has in a lot of people's eyes. Guys, Lumen Field up there, the Seattle Seahawks. I I'm excited for this team to go on a run and with a great defense with that crowd. If you can run the ball, which they seemingly have proven to do, why not the Seattle Seahawks the number one seed in the nfc.
- [204:15]
F
Why not? We always talk about defense and been able to run the ball in the playoffs. Always going to come down to that quarterback as well. We know he has at least one weapon with jsn who you know was on a record breaking pace this year. Year that you're going to find in those clutch moments. So we'll see us all out there for win two games during the Super Bowl.
- [204:31]
A
So you're saying Sam Darnold can make the big place. You did.
- [204:35]
F
No, we've seen him make. We just got to see him on the stage. I'm not saying you can't. We just got to see. That's the case with a lot of these quarterbacks on the big stage right now.
- [204:43]
D
Yeah.
- [204:43]
B
Especially in the AFC. AFC's got a lot of zero wins next to their quarterbacks. Teams.
- [204:48]
A
Yeah, but the last game was like a playoff game because it's for number one seed.
- [204:51]
B
That's.
- [204:52]
E
That's true.
- [204:52]
F
Nah, not really. Even if he lost, he'd have still been there.
- [204:55]
A
Yeah, but it was.
- [204:56]
F
You've been. You've been in playoff games. It's. It's a.
- [204:59]
E
That's a good stat.
- [204:59]
F
It's a different. Different ball game.
- [205:01]
A
It's vastly different. But for number one seed. For number one seed, you see for number one seed, playoff wins. Among playoff quarterbacks, obviously a lot of guys that haven't been there, a lot of guys who haven't tasted it, A lot of guys getting their first crack at it. Who will be able to bust through and become a legend or will one of the old guard take it home? That's what the playoffs are all about. Let's go to the next overreaction, shall we? This is from phil lip@lip phil hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but Zach Taylor needs to be forcibly extracted from his home exactly like Maduro was. That is the only way the Bengals will rid their fans of the abomination they call coaching staff. If I have to go through 10 more years of white Marvin Lewis, I may just have to go into a coma. Fire Zach. Fire Duke. Save Joe. That's pretty good overreaction out of Cincinnati. That is a pretty 10 out of 10. But Phil Lip knew you're left on both contracts.
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C
Exactly. Not. Not a chance.
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A
They're going nowhere.
- [206:01]
E
Not paying two coaches.
- [206:03]
A
Hey, Marvin Lewis, beloved by everybody. You know, so maybe Zach Taylor does become the Caucasian version of that. It is a wild time to be a Bengals fan, it feels like, especially with Joe Burrow being as good as he is and the reality that they're probably never going to actually win anything again. They missed it whenever they were taking on the Rams.
- [206:19]
C
Yeah. It'll be very interesting to see. What, like, are they going to, like, rehaul their entire roster? They can't really. And, you know, I know a lot. I don't think it's fair. A lot of people are saying all Joe Caro. Joe Burrow cared about on Sunday was his fucking hair.
- [206:32]
A
Okay. That was a tough press conference.
- [206:33]
C
Well, I'm just saying, you know, a lot of people saying that.
- [206:37]
B
He did say that he believes in the, like, what. What they're doing, what their vision is. But to Ty's point, do those cap hits for Jamar and T and himself go down now?
- [206:48]
A
You guys never understand this, okay? Those cap heads don't go down. And you know what else doesn't? Sometimes when you got Calyx in your hair, they don't go. Is this edited? No, that's what it was. He was trying to. He was battling two cowlicks. Okay. For those that don't know, I got a lot of these in my hair age. I don't know if you have any, because obviously you got intention. Take that thing straight back. So good for you. But, you know, I have some. Some parts of my hair where it's only going to go one direction.
- [207:11]
C
Yeah.
- [207:11]
A
No matter what I'm thinking. So growing it out is an interesting thing. Him having a battle on the national stage like this with a Catholic, that's just not cooperating. Certainly not the fun. But he should have taken it. He knows what to do with that thing. Yeah, he's. If he would have taken that song Bitch Over Top, that thing would have had a wave on it like he was a model. It would have been like he was a model there. Instead, he just fought that thing for a good minute, a half, two minutes.
- [207:32]
B
And it is annoying. Like, I. I do want to kind of emphasize how irritating this is when your hair is getting in your face, getting in front of your eyes.
- [207:41]
A
Just a tickling of the face.
- [207:42]
B
Yeah.
- [207:43]
A
And a blocking of a view, you know, like a block of the view. Certainly something he. Right now, he wants to pull. He wants to lose his mind. Yeah. And you would have thought maybe after one of them, though, like. Like, maybe the fifth one. Hair would have sure done something.
- [207:58]
C
Exactly.
- [207:58]
A
That Was nowhere near.
- [208:00]
B
You gotta shake it sometimes. Just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
- [208:04]
A
He should have taken a top over, I think. I think he should have done the over gimmick.
- [208:09]
C
I would love to see that.
- [208:10]
B
Or just put something in it. Joe.
- [208:12]
A
Joe believes in a system. Over there in Cincy.
- [208:14]
C
Yeah, certainly. Why wouldn't he? He's getting paid a king's ransom. You know, half the season he's saying, this ain't fun. I don't even like playing football.
- [208:24]
A
And he never said he didn't like playing football.
- [208:26]
C
No, he didn't. He said he didn't like winning. But I'll tell you what. You know what? We'll see. Maybe next year they go with the exact same team, minus Trey Hendrickson and whoever else they're going to lose. Maybe they go 13 and 4 and they kind of say, you to everybody else. We're going to score 75 points a game, and that's how we're going to win football games.
- [208:44]
A
They might do that.
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B
I could see that.
- [208:46]
A
That'd be so much fun to watch if they win 75 a game.
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C
I know.
- [208:49]
B
Got a good pick.
- [208:50]
A
What number?
- [208:52]
B
Somewhere in the top 18.
- [208:54]
A
Because their ass. Yeah, let's get to the next overreaction, shall we? The Colts don't even have one of us.
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B
No, exactly.
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A
No.
- [209:01]
E
That sucks.
- [209:01]
A
Beast. We might have one by draft time. Let's not get crazy. BC Fries or freeze at BC Freeze. Hashtag. I don't want to react, but it's the greatest 24 hours in the history of Falcons football. Beat the ain't. Raheem gone. Terry gone. Rich McKay gone. This feels like a dream. And now the goat, Matty Ice, is going to step in and make all the decisions. Take us to the Super Bowl. Hashtag, rise up. Says BC Freeze. What a time. I know. Local sports media is definitely excited. Yeah, yeah, we've been listening to some of that over the past couple months. They've been calling for change down there in Atlanta. Pronto. Yeah. Who's going to get the gig down there? Gigs, I guess.
- [209:36]
F
I don't know. It's a great question. They got some talent, too, especially on that defensive side of the ball. James Pierce Jr. Junior. He broke their rookie sack record. We saw Xavier Watts on prime time make a couple huge plays. Rookie safety out of Notre Dame. It definitely has some talent. Obviously you have to figure out the quarterback situation, but. Yeah, I've. I've seen nothing but this reaction from the few Falcon fans that I know on, like, X. And which is surprising because from the outside Looking in, I thought Raheem was going to get another opportunity. I think what, just two years and then he's out after that. After eight, nine season, they kind of finished on a positive end. They were 4 and 1 in prime time, which the Casuals who just watched Falcons then are like, how the hell is this team where they are? So I guess that's a good reason to move on from the coach. But yeah, this has pretty much been the fan base's reaction.
- [210:22]
A
I think Terry Fontenot is a big one too.
- [210:25]
E
Super winning GM Terry Fontenot.
- [210:27]
A
Exactly. From the fans, I think they're excited. Rich McKay as well. I think they're just excited to hear this to be a new bunch, maybe running it. All Beatles in there used to be president of Atlanta Falcons, now president and CEO. We saw that, we learned about him. And then Sportology and zrg, two outside independent consulting firms will be coming in to help them with everything else.
- [210:47]
B
That's big.
- [210:48]
F
It'll work out great.
- [210:49]
B
That's massive.
- [210:50]
A
It is massive. Maybe get three of them. Maybe get three consultants.
- [210:54]
B
The trifecta.
- [210:55]
A
Yeah.
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D
Cuz how many total people you think come in?
- [210:57]
A
200 consultants resulting wise. I think I saw a roster of 8 on the sportology one. I think I was looking at that one. ZRG could be endless. You never know because there might be an assistant to the expert on, you.
- [211:09]
B
Know, how many consultants do they have?
- [211:11]
A
Yeah, exactly. Well, and also they got their own corporate structure of consultancy.
- [211:15]
B
Yep.
- [211:16]
A
You know, because there is a chief consultant officer.
- [211:19]
B
Yeah.
- [211:20]
C
Let alone who's under the junior consultant officer.
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A
Prior consultant officer.
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B
Youth.
- [211:25]
A
I could say youth consultant. I don't know if there is.
- [211:28]
B
That's for the lower tier stuff.
- [211:30]
A
Oh, that's like the junior program. Junior.
- [211:34]
B
Bingo. Junior consultants who they then elevate.
- [211:37]
D
What do they consult with when they're not consulting with NFL football teams?
- [211:41]
A
Well, consulting, obviously. They're consulting.
- [211:43]
D
What other companies. What other kind of companies do we know?
- [211:46]
A
Well, they consult amongst themselves about consulting. So they can be the best consultation consulting than any consultant could be. So I think they're ready to consultant about anything, you know, and that's the part about being a great consultant consulting firm.
- [211:58]
B
These things talk to each other.
- [211:59]
A
Yeah. And these things do like to gossip. So within this consultant's consulting firm, there's certainly gossiping happening about one consultant strategy versus another consultant strategy. And then they got to consult about the consulting strategies. And then you think to yourself, well, who's the consultant and who's the consultant?
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C
T. Yeah.
- [212:17]
E
Bingo.
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C
It's a Fair question.
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A
And that's kind of what it's all about whenever you start consulting stuff. Now, I am looking at a lineup here and there's a previous and a next button. So there. I mean, I think there's a lot.
- [212:29]
F
Oh, yeah.
- [212:29]
A
I think there's a lot of these people. One of one down there. Here's the consulting firm. Oh, Len Pern is on the team.
- [212:35]
B
I didn't know that.
- [212:36]
A
Yes. And Kelly Lewis and Brian Lick. We know. We know Brian Lick on, obviously, very well. Rick Alessandri. Now, this guy knows his stuff. This guy knows. Can you scroll up and we see who this is? This consultee, Meet our consultants. Our collaboration and seasoned executive search consultants span industries, functions and regions. Based out of 28 office locations, we have successfully placed candidates in over 30 countries. Ari. And turn us off.
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F
30 countries.
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A
Oh, man.
- [213:05]
E
A lot of ball being played.
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B
Jeez, ain't nobody ball.
- [213:08]
A
They better have done it.
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B
Soccer, any ball. Tennis ball.
- [213:12]
A
Greg Beatles named president and CEO. Congrats, Greg. So they got two consulting firms needed while the president is promoted. Need two consulting things for business. President promoted of business.
- [213:31]
C
Yeah, checks out.
- [213:32]
B
Tight ship.
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A
Rise up.
- [213:35]
F
Guess what? They get it right.
- [213:37]
A
Rise up.
- [213:37]
F
Yep. It'll be all around the league.
- [213:40]
A
It's the only thing that matters. Get it right, win a Super Bowl. Good luck out there. We're pulling for you.
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E
Brady's using a consulting firm.
- [213:47]
A
I think he is the consultant. I think that's probably why he was given ownership, though. And I. I don't mind that. You know, I don't mind the Tom Brady consultant. I don't like independent.
- [213:58]
F
Was he running?
- [213:58]
A
What do I know? We don't have a team. What do we know?
- [214:01]
F
Was he running last year when they hired Pete?
- [214:03]
C
I believe he was involved.
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B
Yeah. So.
- [214:05]
E
Yeah, because he was, you know, like. So he was the one who loved spy tech because they worked together in tam.
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F
All right, Tommy.
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B
Exactly. Kind of improve it here.
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A
Yeah.
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D
Big hire for Tom.
- [214:14]
A
Tommy boy for Tom Brady. Kind of is, I guess. I didn't really think about that. I mean, I didn't know who you were talking about four seconds before you said it, because that feels like my brain would have never thought one of.
- [214:26]
B
The owners of the.
- [214:28]
A
Yeah, there's. I believe there's a bunch of minority owners being added to the Raiders, by the way, that do a lot of business. Like a lot of people. There's a lot of brains about to be in the Raiders organization, I think. How do they all. What do they all.
- [214:39]
B
And where's Mark? Is he still Just upstairs playing on his Game Boy.
- [214:43]
A
Maybe. I think he upgraded to PS5. Is that what you were playing? That's smart.
- [214:47]
B
Yes, I was. PS5 is awesome.
- [214:50]
A
How was your weekend? Is that what you were playing on?
- [214:52]
B
Oh, I was playing Rock Band all weekend, dude. Yes. Yes. I was playing Rock Band 4 all weekend on the PS5, which is a PS4 game. I realized it's gotten much harder. Some of the combinations between the hands. I almost hurt my hand. I think I pulled the muscle on my shoulder.
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A
Yeah.
- [215:06]
B
Getting after actually from doing it. I woke up on Sunday like fuck man. What'd I do? It might have been because of Rock Band 4.
- [215:11]
A
I had a roommate my freshman year. Scott Kozlowski went on to be a very good punter for West Virginia. He was so good at the game.
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B
Love it.
- [215:19]
A
Quiet. Hey, I'm tired sleeping. You're in a dorm room. It's an open room. He has it turned down, gentlemen. Very nice of him doing that. The sound of his fingers hitting the thing wake me up. Cuz he was. He was so good. I. I mean he had to be the greatest of all time.
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I
I don't know.
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A
He did the thing. Shredding. There's some of you out there, right? You used to be one of those.
- [215:41]
B
Yeah, back in the day. I'm getting there. I'm getting back up. The cool part with these new guitars is it was all up here. Here you can kind of go in this casual mode and it's not casual. You're still playing on Expert, still shredding. But it's down here so you don't have to move as much. And it's not as loud. It's just much more like. You got to be much more precise. Cuz the, the buttons are smaller. They're like this instead of like this. It's awesome.
- [216:02]
A
I was never really good at that.
- [216:04]
B
It's so fun.
- [216:04]
A
Microphone with the bop and the sing. Hit that thing.
- [216:07]
B
Which also can do with the PlayStation controller.
- [216:09]
A
Now I learned I can bop and sing into my PlayStation controller.
- [216:12]
B
Yeah. Cuz it has a microphone on.
- [216:13]
A
Yeah, but you don't want to hold. That's how you want to it.
- [216:15]
B
Yeah, you can.
- [216:16]
D
You can mic.
- [216:17]
B
Yeah. True. Yeah.
- [216:18]
A
Yeah. You know Mike, on that. That shitty ass mic that they used to have.
- [216:21]
B
Oh tough. Awesome.
- [216:23]
A
Rock Band had a good run.
- [216:24]
B
So good. Oh yeah.
- [216:25]
A
Still going Hammer drunk. People trying to play that late at night. Rock Band. Just an awesome certainly.
- [216:30]
F
Or that dance game with the arrows.
- [216:33]
B
Yeah.
- [216:33]
F
I can see bone just crushing.
- [216:37]
A
Do you remember that guy? There's some guy that really beat the game. The hands on the back of the thing. Yeah. Do you remember that? There was a couple experts on that. I happened upon one, I believe, at an arcade, if my memory serves.
- [216:50]
B
In the wild.
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A
Yes, in the wild. I happened upon one and it was holy. I remember just being completely captivated. I. I assume I was having a good time and I assume my. Yeah, I think it's coming back to me. I think I was in LA somewhere. They had a. Like. So I was always up on a stage, remember a little bit, had lighting, music was very loud. It was like a show. And I remember just being captivated. And this right on the back. First person I saw used the back thing as like actual leverage. Crushed. Genius. Absolutely killed. I think I tipped a person, if I recall. I. I think I tipped a. Yeah, you used the back as like a real leverage.
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D
Shouldn't be able to hold it back.
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A
That's what it's there for. That's what the person was telling me.
- [217:32]
D
That's for old geriatrics not to fall over and break their hip.
- [217:35]
B
You should.
- [217:35]
D
If you're dancing, you should be dancing.
- [217:37]
A
Yeah, but what if they're doing this and this seems to be a doubler as well?
- [217:40]
B
This guy ain't dancing, dominating.
- [217:42]
F
These aren't real dance moves when you're holding the bar.
- [217:44]
E
Nope.
- [217:45]
A
Yeah, but they're getting after it.
- [217:47]
D
I mean, he's got good feet.
- [217:48]
F
He does be a corner.
- [217:50]
A
DDR brought quick feet out, you know, but the hand on the back thing, the rail, really changed the game. Speaking of changing the game, Luke Litler. Holy man there. Oh, back to back, dude.
- [218:00]
B
Unbelievable.
- [218:01]
A
Back to back. World champion down there at Ali Po. Listen, they threw a wasp at him. They try to get Luke. Luke L attacked by a wasp in the middle of his setup. I mean, we're only seeing the tail end of this thing. Him kind of dodging, weaving. Thank God he's got, you know, good moves. Hey, it's for a million bucks. He was lined up to get this, and then all of a sudden, this wasp comes. He moves ducks, dodge ducks, dips, dives and dots. And then he gets right back. As soon as this wasp leaves. I don't know if we have it on camera. We don't have it. He steps right back up, boom, boom, boom. Grabs him, keeps him moving. And then the guy calling us goes 1, 42. And the place goes crazy. It was fucking electrifying. I would love to watch. And then Shane Gillis ass is in fucking attendance there. I mean, it looked outrageous. In Luke Littler is Must watch Darn St. Yeah.
- [218:51]
B
And you mentioned there George Noble. Shout out to him. He went into the hall of Fame. The announcer, he's done John McDonald also. He went into. Thank you for your service, gentlemen. But yeah, this was one of the greatest sporting events I've ever watched, bar none. Like, we talk a lot about, you know, some of the. The finals, like Wimbledon and tennis and even the four majors with golf. Like, that's kind of where I'm putting darts at now in my brain at least. I am a casual to start. But I mean, the Premier League of Darts starts in February. Should be great. Littler right now is unconscious, though. You know, Guillen vanveen had no chance and he tried to up the moxie. There's George Noble. Shout out legend, but. And he tried to kind of get it done. Van Veen. But once the door was shut by L. Yeah, he really just had no chance.
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A
At the beginning, though, Luke was missing the opportunities. You see that down their legs. And then obviously 180, They start chanting out there. I mean, it is electrifying. You see that one set down there at the bottom? Well, you got to get the five legs, I believe, to get the one set. Then we're trying to get the seven sets. Okay. Is what you're trying to do. That first set was won by who? Van Neen. Littler lost coming out. Littler was ice cold. Could have put it away, actually lost. And then he walked off the stage with incredible moxie. Then he came back afterwards and he had that foot sideways, good lean. And all of a sudden it was one. Look, there's a weapon over there.
- [220:19]
B
Yeah, it was tied, and van Veen was up 20 go on the third set. And then all of a sudden, boom. Here, that fist. There it is.
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D
At one point.
- [220:29]
B
At one point, he won like 14 of 15 sets. Like, Van Veen was just getting shut out.
- [220:34]
A
So right on the side. Don't play this. Put the screen on the screen. Don't put it. So triple 20, triple 20. Bullseye will do it, right? So once you get under 180, they start putting on the side what you have to do. And you have to double in or double out. Okay. So you have to hit a double. So once those little things popped up on the side, then you kind of. We kind of knew what the he was trying for. And then watching them potentially miss one of those. And then in real time, adjust to like a double eight instead. Okay, we'll do that. It was outrageous.
- [221:02]
B
But going fishing.
- [221:03]
A
Yeah. It felt like, because you're seeing what he's looking for. Triple 20, triple 20, bull. And then they're zoomed in. It's like, triple 20, triple 20. And then now they zoom in on the bull. Right in on the bull. And it's like, bullseye. He's done it again. And it's. The place goes fucking ape shit. I don't know how it'll work in America, if it would work in America, but I do know I want to be in one over there.
- [221:25]
E
Yes.
- [221:25]
A
Because like, it's Halloween. It's fucking Bingo Carnival. I mean, they are f living in that crowd.
- [221:31]
B
Yeah. And it looked like kind of like an October Fest setup because you mentioned Shane Gillis was there. And it's like tables, people dressed up. So the way the Premier League works, it feels feasible for like the States. It's just eight dudes. All of them are studs. Cool Hands Humphreys, if you remember from last year. Yeah, him, absolutely. Littler Van Veen, this guy, Andrew Van Gerwin, who's an absolute nuke. Yeah, here we go. Him right there, he's middle right. Stephen Bunting there, he's the people's champ.
- [222:04]
C
I guess people are not happy.
- [222:05]
B
Yeah, people aren't happy with him right now.
- [222:07]
A
Titanium.
- [222:08]
B
Yeah, he's. Yeah, he comes out to titanium. But if they just took these four or these eight on tour and just did like, hey, we're going to do round robin at a theater. Yeah. I mean, the Dome would be sick, but a theater with, you know, 5,000.
- [222:24]
A
Shut down those arenas. So they shut down like half of those arenas and put stages up and then they kind of book off.
- [222:31]
B
Final Four.
- [222:32]
A
Yeah, Final Four, they do that. UFC weigh ins, they do that. I've seen other things where they have an arena and then they just back the stage up for however many people you get. You know, like, we're cool with it just being like a theater here on the end. And if we get more people, we back it up. And then you have that, and then you back it up and you have that. It's like, I think that would be a good setup for the darts.
- [222:51]
B
Yeah.
- [222:52]
A
Because these arenas, not as expensive as you would think. Now, granted, they're taking a piece, but if you can fill it up, which these fuckers can, it would be an incredible event just to go and have a good time.
- [223:02]
B
Yeah, well, for the good time, like if you just drop, you know, beer prices and food prices, you know, maybe if you, if you're thinking, hey, maybe we take a hit on that, but we get more people, build the sport in the stadium states. It would be a pretty easy way to do it.
- [223:16]
A
I think it's a. I think it's special moments, especially if you're Luke Litla's 18. Yeah.
- [223:21]
B
The moxie.
- [223:21]
F
We got to be there for the three.
- [223:22]
A
Pete next year, he's going for the three.
- [223:24]
B
I don't know. I think he might be the first ever.
- [223:27]
E
Do they have to do it during football season?
- [223:29]
A
Yeah, that's the issue.
- [223:30]
B
This was the first time it's fallen on a Saturday as well. I read in quite. Quite some time at Alipelli.
- [223:36]
A
It's normally on Sunday.
- [223:37]
B
I. I don't know. Actually, it's my. It's my first year. You're competing in the watching of it, but I do. I do think it is either.
- [223:46]
A
It's awesome.
- [223:46]
B
It is. I'm not kidding. It was so I watched the whole preview.
- [223:49]
A
Commentators are perfect.
- [223:50]
C
Yeah, yeah, it's great.
- [223:51]
A
Commentators are like baseball commentators, but also, like, you know, have incredible, like. Because they gotta fill time.
- [223:58]
B
Yeah.
- [223:59]
A
They bicker, they bake. That's like baseball. Like baseball, I think is more like a conversational commentary. But then they got to bring the juice whenever something massive happens. And it's like they clearly have to love darts as well.
- [224:10]
D
Yeah.
- [224:11]
B
The announcer, to your point, George Noble. Yeah, the ref. Yeah. He. He also plays a vital role in the 180 announcement.
- [224:20]
A
180. And then the other guy is trying to throw. While that's happening. Place is going crazy.
- [224:29]
B
Starting chance.
- [224:30]
A
Yeah.
- [224:32]
B
Like, they.
- [224:32]
A
Congrats, Luke. You got us all captivated, brother. Yeah, Luke and I. I. So I guess we got our insight from Nigel, our English course on it. It said a lot of German fans booing Luke Litler at that. That one that we saw.
- [224:46]
E
Oh, he reached out.
- [224:47]
A
Yeah. Well, I think he tweeted and said, like, hey, boys, one crucial piece of information you're missing is that's. I think that's a lot of German. That's Nigel. Yeah. He's giving us a piece of info that we need. And I know if Luke Litler's throwing, it's going to be electric.
- [225:00]
C
Yeah.
- [225:00]
B
Well, in the tweets about it, like, hey, this guy. Guy's only getting better.
- [225:03]
C
Exactly. And that. Yeah. They're saying, like, hey, wait till this guy turns into, like a legitimate alcoholic. Like, he's gonna get way better. Like right now he's drinking, like, fruity drinks and doing all this. Wait till this guy starts drinking and. And booze, you know, not just like these breezy, fruity drinks. Like once he kind of turns it up, that's when his dart game.
- [225:24]
A
I did see that tweet. I did see that. There are some people that believe that about darts. I happen to to have a friend who is a semi professional dart player and his entire mission is to get hammered before it starts. Cuz he feels like it's a little looser. Yeah. Now granted he made to the finals and didn't know it and he lost.
- [225:39]
C
And he missed and that's going to happen sometime.
- [225:40]
E
Just like beer.
- [225:41]
A
Yeah. Yeah, I guess people start getting a little hole, starts getting a little bigger that way. Darts. I don't know if these pros are playing like that. Honestly. Van Neen looked pretty tight. He needs to have one tightened up.
- [225:51]
B
Little too tight.
- [225:53]
A
I thought he was a good player though. He knows his time. The way they stand with that box and then leaning over. The problem with Van Vuk Litler's body, it's like a athlete peach shelf as it's leaning over. It's unbelievable.
- [226:08]
B
Van Veen's problem was like, he just looked like a dick. It was like, dude, you can be losing and still like try and be a fan favorite. Like he was losing and he was kind of taking a page out of A.J. hawk's book. He was pouting.
- [226:23]
A
No, he wasn't. He thought he was getting a little upset at himself.
- [226:26]
B
Finally at the end he hit one. He was like, oh, I guess I still fucking. I can throw a dart still. And people were like, yes, there it is. I get a little moxie. I mean you saw Littler. Littler was gone fishing, man.
- [226:36]
A
Yeah, I mean, centimeters away from a win and a loss. Yeah, there was a couple Van Niens that hit the metal and dropped out. Oh, he could have had Little right there.
- [226:44]
C
Yeah.
- [226:44]
B
No, and like he would throw one in the announcer back. There it is. Got a good marker now. You should, should lock this one in. And he'd miss a guess again.
- [226:52]
A
I don't know how he missed.
- [226:54]
C
Yeah.
- [226:54]
B
And that's when he'd start, Pat.
- [226:56]
A
So the marker by the way, is a miss right outside and then that's like a target basically because you can either use it, but it's. There's blood on the board at one point because Van Veen cut himself on his dart.
- [227:06]
B
So pissed. Yeah.
- [227:07]
A
So then really? Yeah. The commentator was not happy. It was unbecoming of the, of the dartboard to have blood on there.
- [227:12]
C
Switch it out.
- [227:13]
A
No, they didn't. I think they asked Littler if he wanted it to be up.
- [227:17]
B
Leave it. Yeah, that is.
- [227:18]
A
Yeah, that is what he said.
- [227:20]
B
Yeah. The end of the. The. Once the leg ended, then George Noble called it in. He's like, all right, so.
- [227:26]
A
But that speck of blood was on the five pretty high. And you saw Littler not miss after. I feel like it was like almost. I think they're looking for, like, that's.
- [227:37]
B
When the commentators were going at it. They were like, it's a little off putting. No.
- [227:40]
C
And.
- [227:40]
B
And one of the guys like, no, not at all.
- [227:43]
A
And then they asked Luke if he wants. He's like, no, it's good. Yeah, it's good. It's fun sport. It's fun sport. Once again, we don't have money at football, so we are exploring the space of everything. Last overreaction Tweet here from a Baltimore Ravens fan. I do believe justin beansock@jsoc hashtag. I don't want to overreact, but thank you, Loop. Because of you, the Ravens can finally get rid of Harbaugh and clean house. And I don't have to see Valle's bum ass take another snap. Snap at right guard. He got hurt last night. Congrats, Tone Diggs. Tomlin is still going to be the head coach and the Steelers will remain mediocre. I like a little positive spin here by the Baltimore Ravens. Some of their fans, we don't know if they're going to move on from Harbaugh, but it did sound like going into the game there were certainly conversations going to happen on either side if there was a loss. Have you ever stayed your welcome? Has your message run dry? Is it time for you to move on? As Schefter said, if Harbaugh was to be fired, he'd be hired tomorrow somewhere else. Maybe it's time for a new scene for him. We shall see. Tom.
- [228:41]
E
Yeah, they're not just not what they do. He's still employed there. We're in the playoffs, never lost on Monday Night Football. And then we're off to the races from there.
- [228:54]
A
Being a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Congrats to Utah and to Utah and to UConn, man and Deebot, one of your teams.
- [229:02]
F
Thank you. Both two charge the Eagles.
- [229:05]
A
Maybe Suo Pre. Maybe. Maybe the Debu Bowl. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three.
- [229:12]
B
Team.
- [229:12]
A
Goodbye.