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Pat McAfee
Hello, beautiful people. Oh, no, don't do anything. Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome, on this glorious Thursday, January 15th. This sports program begins now.
Con Man
Football.
Pat McAfee
Shout out to Bailey McComas. Bill, standing in back there for the audio, literally told him as we were coming on live, hey, brother, all you can do is make us better. Don't you worry about anything. You're good back there. Doesn't turn on the mics at the very beginning. Because he was so excited to get this day rolling. Because it is a glorious Thursday today. Not only because we're just two days away from divisional round Saturday and divisional rounds Sunday and big college game Monday. Football's about to deliver. We got great football teams playing great football and a great time to be alive. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to do this for a living. Today we are going to host another ticket giveaway. Now, yesterday we were supposed to only give away one pair of tickets, but we ended up having to buy another pair of tickets to give away two pairs of tickets because we had a little scavenger hunt of words on our lower thirds. And we didn't think about the geniuses who'd be able to predict or guess what the message was, even though it was kind of a random sentence of words that were pieced together. So we're gonna give away a pair of tickets to the first 10 people who guessed it before the final clue was given. And then we're gonna give two tickets to a random person in the first ten that gave after. Immediately after the final clue was given. So we felt that that was right because super geniuses who said, yeah, I'm just gonna guess this thing, they don't deserve to be punished because we never clarified that it needs to happen directly after the word is finished. And then the people who waited for the scavenger hunt to end and then give their answer, they shouldn't be punished either. So we decided we two more tickets. And to be clear, ticket prices did stay.
Ty Schmidt
They did.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so maybe, maybe these ticket prices will become a little bit more affordable as the days roll on into big game Monday. But there's a chance that these ticket prices continue to ascend. So we felt obligated to send a couple people to the big game today. We'll have another massive, awesome ticket giveaway. It'll be called the hashtag PMSC Geek punch. The toxic table. Boston, Connor and AT Ty Schmidt will attempt a punch on our punching power pack thing. Out here in the front, the scores are zero to A thousand. A thousand being a hardest punch that you've ever seen, you know, and then everything else kind of falls in there. I assume you've seen the clips on the Internet of people punching these things. I think that big giant guy from that one show, the Mountain punched one. I think it was like 875 or 9. Something like a 900 punch obviously is gigantic. Thousands, the most that you think you could possibly ever get in there. I've seen three hundreds in public before. These things are in a lot of bars. Whenever we were kind of in our boozing era. So the toxic table will take on the challenge. They'll punch it twice. We will take the higher of their scores. You will have to guess their combined scores. We will do the opposite of the Price is Right rules. If nobody guesses the actual score of their two combined punches, we will actually go up a point to see who is the closest to the winner as opposed to Don. So if you're underselling the boys, you're not going to be rewarded. Only three entries. Okay. Only three entries allowed per X account because we will be able to find out and cancel you if you're in the first 10. So that is something that you should adhere to. Don't think you're going to be able to rig the system there because you will not know the right answer until we will know the right answer. So interesting situation in it all, but we are thankful that SeatGeek is the greatest ticket buying platform on planet Earth and the moon. We'll have another giveaway tomorrow for a pair of tickets. So we're going to be down there at the big college game. Divisional round is just two days away. Oh boy. Let's go ahead and have ourselves one here. Toxic table at boss corner at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer done. Cowboys at tone digs. Tone. I think the number is going to be larger than people assume. Ty Schmidt, Boston Conner. Scrappy lads, don't you think?
Tone
Super scrappy. And a lot of people were asking how come you and I aren't punching. It's because we didn't want to break the machine. So just.
Pat McAfee
Let's just get or our hands.
Tone
So the machine more.
Pat McAfee
More likely for me. Yeah, yeah, definitely the machine. And that's a good, good point. Why aren't we punch? Number would have been two.
Ty Schmidt
But it's easier just to, you know.
Pat McAfee
Scrapping 2,000 max number. Yeah, like that's going to be very. We would like people to have a chance of getting.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Tone
I mean that guy. Two down for me. Born in the southy region of Boston.
Con Man
Yeah, there you go.
Tone
Fought every single day. Had to fight off bank robbers every single day. He's been in a few.
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah, I've seen it. I've seen him have to do that. And then this man, born and raised.
Tone
In Iowa, turned down Iowa wrestling. He had full ride scholarships to IOW for wrestling and Penn State because he was more focused on the angling career at Iowa in that nature. So yeah, these boys can go.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But also you start bringing up these types of background informations. What if the boys only throw a three quarter punch because they would like to, you know, kind of face hitting it pure as opposed to hitting it hard? You know, what if it's not a full swing? I mean these are the decisions the boys are going to have to make in the middle of it. But there is a plastic pad there is. That comes down pretty good into the punching area. Definitely going to hit knuckles off of that.
Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah.
Pat McAfee
And it is a pretty good little scrape. And also if you don't lock wrist and elbow square. Yeah, that thing's going to hurt you here too. Yeah. We all remember the days when these were at the bars, without a doubt. And you wake up the next morning and it was like, okay, great, that thing beat me. But in the moment it was. Those were wild. They started planning those in force. Legitimately wild that he started doing that. We have one in our Thunderdome, obviously we do. What a ridiculous thing. We can't thank you enough for joining us. Let's get into some talk about some sporting news. Last night it was made official at 11:50pm Eastern time, John Harbaugh officially named the New York Giants football coach. Congratulations to Harbaugh. Congratulations to the New York Giants. Allegedly through his entire interview yesterday, whenever he was boots on the ground up there in New Jersey for the New York Giants, he didn't answer his question phone. One time he didn't look at his phone, although he did get in a plane and leave. They were tracking his plane out of Teterboro and where he was headed. He was allegedly supposed to go do interviews with the Titans and amongst other places. A lot of people are saying maybe Tennessee was actually kind of a quiet favorite here for Harbaugh as he's going to be maybe offered the keys to the entire palace and to kind of tell him to build it as they have a new stadium on the horizon. Well, he never made the trip to Nashville. I think if he lands there, maybe.
Ty Schmidt
You never know.
Pat McAfee
You never know. You're walking by, honky Tonk. Who is it all Morgan Wallen's playing and Harbaugh's like, I love this music. Then walks down a little bit far. Luke Combs is sitting right there, just walking around town, Coach. And then Jelly Rolls literally standing at the end of the street going, amen. Singing to Harbaugh. He's in town. You can kind of get lost in the sauce down there in Nashville and say, wow, is this the greatest city that's ever existed. You start learning the history of it and you almost fall in love even more. So they didn't want that to happen if they were Giants fans. Bruce Brown in our group, text panicking. Oh, yeah, panicking. As jets were kind of being tracked, which is obviously creepy. Should not be able to happen. Hate that it is, but it's certainly part of the world that we're in. There was a man named Mr. O' Connor who was a part of the coverage of it. Joining us now is a man who might be on the inside more than anything we saw on the Internet last night. Joining us, ladies and gentlemen, senior NFL Insider for ESPN journalist, journalist Adam Schefter. Sup, Shefty?
Ty Schmidt
Hello there, guys.
Adam Schefter
I bet. What's going on?
Pat McAfee
If you could provide some journalism for our program, we'd be grateful. It felt like this was going to happen for a while. Giants fans are maybe willing this into existence. Allegedly, Jackson Dart was a part of the interview as well, with Harbaugh maybe interviewing him just as much as he is potentially learning about Coach Harbaugh, inevitably. Why do you not take the trip to the Titans? Why do you think this got done? And when he leaves town, is he just going to talk to family to kind of make his entire decision? How do we get to this point right here?
Adam Schefter
No, I think what happened was, I think that they had the framework of a deal in place when he left the building and the Titans.
Pat McAfee
Oh, no.
Adam Schefter
His house today.
AJ Hawk
Oh, no.
Pat McAfee
Can't hear anything. Can't hear anything.
Adam Schefter
And obviously that trip was canceled. So. So that trip didn't happen. And the Titans officials never came to Baltimore today because he had essentially the makings of a deal in place done with the Giants. Now, again, as it was described to me last night, there were still some details to iron out in the opinion of some, but he had essentially told the Giants he was going to take that job and become the head coach there. Now, look, from the day he got fired in Baltimore and even before then, I think the Giants were doing a lot of work on him and he was doing a lot of work on them. So it went both ways. Like he was calling around to various people. He spoke to a lot of people about the New York Giants, gathered a lot of information, people like Tom Coughlin, Bill Belichick, like all kinds of people checking in. And he got back positive reports. And he obviously knew the quarterback, what he was, and he knew the players and talent that were there. And I think anytime any coach, whether it's John Harbaugh or any coach in this cycle or any cycle, is deciding whether or not to go for a job. The two biggest factors are quarterback and ownership. And clearly with all the people he checked with, with all the people he spoke with, he felt good enough about what he heard to essentially agree in principle to become their head coach. So he took that job. Canceled with the Titans, not going to visit or meet with the Falcons. I think the Falcons also might have been coming to Baltimore at some point in time. Didn't happen. So in the end, John Harbaugh took one visit to the New York Giants and they closed it out. Now, Baltimore owes him some money, so that probably figures in here. But when all is said and done, I expect the deal to average about $20 million a year, make him about one of the highest paid coaches in the National Football League. Gets the roster and the Giants this. And we said this with Ty in our podcast. This is, this is their Super Bowl. They won the super bowl today. They got the coach that everybody wanted. They got the kind of coach in my mind like when they hired Bill Parcells, there was that much excitement. When they hired Dan Reeves, there was that much excitement. When they were Tom Cobf, there was that much excitement. And once again, there's excitement in the Giants world over the hiring of John Harbaugh.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so on that note, Harbaugh with rookie quarterbacks has fared pretty well. Obviously with Joe Flacco, they end up winning the super bowl in the entirety of it all. And then with Lamar Jackson 45 and 16, 1 and 3 in the playoffs, obviously that is the reason why he was let go from Baltimore is because of, you know, playoff and late season success in it all. They want something fresh and new and we are going to trust Paisan Bashati. We are going to trust him. But on that note, Harbaugh has done well with young quarterback development. It appears he's also done well whenever he has a little bit more roster and cap space around the quarterback. We'll see what they're able to do around Jackson Dart, obviously that's a big sell for a lot of Coaches, as they were trying to eye where they wanted to head. Jackson Dart has proved seemingly to Harbaugh and to the Giants fans that he is worthy of investment in being a guy to build around and to have a coach bring in. Now, who's the Oculus, who's the dc? That all gets figured out in the rolling days. Now, five years, $100 million, so 20 million a year, green Bay packers on the floor have it figured out then, right? Like, they know exactly what that deal supposed to be. Inevitably, as like whenever we're talking about players contracts, a player will sign a deal. Myles Garrett signs a deal, okay, we know exactly what TJ's deal is going to be, okay? We know exactly what this guy's deal is going to be. With Harbaugh's deal getting done and it being what it is, how does that affect the Green Bay situation, if at all?
Adam Schefter
No bearing at all. The packers and Matt LaFleur have been working on an extension. They've been talking. I think it's gone a couple of different ways here. I think right now, the way it was described to me today, earlier today, I think the expectation and belief is that he's expected back in Green Bay and excited about that opportunity. That's the belief on both sides. So until we hear different, I think we operate under the assumption that he's going to be back and they're going to figure it out.
Pete Thamel
Okay?
Adam Schefter
They're working on trying to get it done. That that's what I, I would expect to happen right now, but they're not done. So until they're done, we'll see. But I, I believe they're going to work it out.
Pat McAfee
It just feels like there's a market, you know, that you know exactly how you got Pat.
Adam Schefter
There will be a big market for Matt LaFleur, because if the Green Bay packers don't work it out, I'm telling you right now, Matt LaFleur would get more money from other teams and there would be multiple teams in my mind that would be willing to step in and offer draft pick compensation to the Green Bay packers to get it done.
Pat McAfee
So, yeah, Lalor's people know that. You know, La Flores people know that that's the case. And this will lead perfectly to the next question. So they're definitely saying that to the packers, this is classic negotiation. Here's the comps. Here's exactly what, imo, how successful I am. The fact that they don't have an owner, okay? So they have access to a vault of money and they know exactly What a fair market deal would be for him now, especially after the Harbaugh deal is signed. It's like, okay, this is easily done then, but it's not, so we shall see. Okay, so if he was to hit the market as a coach, he would be bella ball. Mike McCarthy obviously still very much available, and he could be Bello Ball. But there's another name emerging quickly. Last question for you, Shefter. Go ahead, con man.
Con Man
Yeah, Shefty. Is Stefanski now kind of the favorite for everybody else? Plus, it seems like the Titans and Falcons are ready to hand over the keys like Pat mentioned to Harbaugh now that he's off the table. Do they feel the same way about Stefanski? Are they. Are teams going to basically just line up to get him in their building to fix everything that is wrong with it?
Adam Schefter
I think Kevin Stefanski is going to be in play in Tennessee, Atlanta, Miami, Baltimore. Those are the four places that I could see him being in play. We'll see if Pittsburgh decides to weigh in or not. I think at the very least, he's going to have the option to come out of this cycle, I think, with a head coaching opportunity. Now, let's keep in mind, I think there also are going to be a lot of attractive offensive coordinator opportunities, and the Cleveland Browns owe him two years of money. So if you're Kevin Stefanski, you're thinking to yourself, what do I want to do and what's the best opportunity for me?
Pat McAfee
McDaniels. Josh McDaniels.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I was a head coach. It was hell. I mean, I won head coach of the year multiple times, and it was the worst time of all time. But I'm getting paid like a head coach still from the Browns, and I can do oc. Maybe we go try to win super bowl somewhere, potentially.
Con Man
Eagles. Lions.
Pat McAfee
Eagles. Lions. Bucks.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
I mean, there's a lot of opportunity out there. Is that what you're saying?
Adam Schefter
Chargers.
Pat McAfee
Chargers as well. Yeah. So there's a lot of OC opportunities for recovering head coaches.
Adam Schefter
By the way, you guys. You guys listed the Eagles, Bucks, Chargers, Lions. Lions.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Adam Schefter
Tell me when we look at those offensive coordinator openings and those jobs and those quarterbacks and those organizations, tell me that you wouldn't want one of those jobs.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I mean, those would be the ones, especially if you're looking to become a head coach again. Like, these are our head coach creators.
Adam Schefter
Okay.
Con Man
Okay.
Adam Schefter
So, Pat, so let's. And you raise a very interesting question there. So if you're Kevin Stefanski and you're being Paid two years of salary and you're going to have a chance to do one of these head coaching gigs. Would you rather do that now?
Pat McAfee
Yes.
Adam Schefter
Or take one of these OC jobs with these organizations, work with that quarterback and then hit the job market a year from now. What would you rather do?
Pat McAfee
Or Maybe just Josh McDaniels it rest of your life just go, they're paying a lot of money. There's no salary cap on what you can pay coaches. If I can prove to one of these new mega wealthy owners, because there are now mega wealthy owners. Not that every owner isn't wealthy. I'm just adding in the mega into the front of it. And there's going to be more of those as teams continue to roll on. So like with the no cap on the coaching thing, offensive coordinators, especially if you've already gotten a head coaching contract or two. Okay. Which means you got a lot of money in the vault and a free television job anytime you want it. Taking an offense coordinator job where you're getting grossly overpaid whenever it comes to offensive coordinators and you don't have to deal with any of the other shit, if that's not the style of human you are, that certainly becomes a much more attractive job. I think in the future if they're going to start paying coordinators a massive amount of money. 7, 89 million to do that. 6, 7, 89 million to do offense coordinator. And you already got two years of head coaching money coming when you don't even have to work at the place.
Con Man
Especially when you look at those four places all these coaches talk about kind of ownership, gm, head coach alignment. You could argue all four of those places have some of the best alignment in the NFL between the Eagles, especially the Lions. I mean, that's Holmes. Basically. Ford told Holmes and mcdc, go ahead and do it. Like those are four unbelievable coordinator jobs.
Ty Schmidt
Stefanski is also. He went to Penn. He's from that area. So like, does he want to go and maybe be close to his family for a year to the Eagles are going to be good. Like that also makes a lot of sense.
Pat McAfee
Shafty. It's. It is. Okay, so Stefanski, we just Learned and then McDaniel, you got to think about same thing. McDaniel is going to be below the ball. Offensive coordinator roles we would assume. Right, Shefty? Yeah.
Adam Schefter
Look, he's interviewed for some head coaching jobs and he'll have the chance to interview for more, I believe. Mike McDaniel is interviewing with the Baltimore Ravens today. Is that out there?
Pat McAfee
I think so, yes, I believe we have read that. But also it could have been a different team and my brain just kind of mixing it all together.
Con Man
A lot of those reports, then the.
Pat McAfee
Reports of like he's getting a head coach interview and an offense coordinator, it's like interesting.
Adam Schefter
But again, I think when we talk about Stefanski, McDaniel and the head coach openings and the OC openings, that's a very interesting dynamic this year because some of these OC openings are really appealing and not to say the head coach openings aren't because they're head coach openings and they always are and they carry big money. But each coach is at a different level in his life. Like if you're one of these coaches who's never been a head coach before, a, a Anthony Weaver, a Jeff Halfley, a Nate Shieldhouse, a Chris Shula, somebody like, like you're going to take a head coaching job, I think, however you can get it. But if you've been a head coach like Stefanski or McDaniel and your former employer owes you money, probably wise to consider all options and be very and have use a lot of discretion when you're making that decision.
Pat McAfee
Completely agree. Okay, last question. I said that was going to be last question. But Fred Warner, is he playing?
Adam Schefter
He's pushing to play. He's not giving up hope yet. Kyle Shanahan was dismissive of the idea all week long, but Fred Warner doesn't want to let it go. And here's the deal. They have until Saturday afternoon at 4 Eastern to activate them. Like here's, here's something to pay attention to this weekend. The Bills are listing Curtis Samuel and Ed Oliver's questionable. They have to make the decision by 4 o' clock Eastern on Friday because the game kicks off 4:30 on Saturday. The Niners Seahawks game doesn't kick off till that night. So the Niners don't have to activate Fred Warner if they're going to do that until Saturday at 4 Eastern. They can wait until that time before they get an extra day to decide over the Buffalo Bills, who have to decide by tomorrow whether to activate Ed Oliver and Curtis Samuel.
Pat McAfee
He's flying around. I mean he looks very energetic, very up and flying and now not that one. Yeah, we don't know. Shefty. We'll keep our eyes on your Twitter account or I'm sorry, your X account to keep us updated. We appreciate the hell out of you joining us from phone brother.
Adam Schefter
Thank you guys. I appreciate you having me. Have a great day.
Pat McAfee
Thank you for the Journalism.
Con Man
Huge.
Tone
Thank you, Shafty.
Pat McAfee
Thank you for the love of sport. We appreciate that, ladies and gentlemen.
Adam Schefter
Thank you, guys.
Pat McAfee
Adam Schefter. Shefty said, I love sports, but also, have you seen what they pay guys like me? Yeah, but his life is. What have you done for me lately?
Ty Schmidt
Non stop.
Con Man
Yeah, it looks like he got a.
Tone
Lot of sleep last night.
Ty Schmidt
He said he got one hour of sleep last night. That's what he told me this morning.
Pat McAfee
And after those, those days, that's when you need to be on because everybody now wants to know what you did exactly. Hey, what were you doing all night? Well, actually, I was figuring out and then boom. Now talk, talk, talk, talk. Let's do that again. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us, the authority on college sports, Pete Thamel.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Everybody in the 3 1, 3. Put your hand in the air, say hi to Pete. What's going on, bro?
Pete Thamel
Nice to see you, Pat. Thanks for having me.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, thank you for joining us. I know there's a lot of investigative journalism happening in a gambling ring that sounds like has hit college basketball again. 17 schools, 20 players. I think those numbers are accurate. What are we hearing? What are we learning? Where do we stand with college hoops right now? Should I be watching what I'm doing on my draftkings with college hoops at this point? Pete DeHammel.
Pete Thamel
Well, I just saw you flashed up David Purdom's story. He's done an excellent job tracking this today, Pat, is sort of the culmination of what has dripped out over the last year that there's been an unspooling federal investigation into point shaving in Division 1 men's college basketball. And what really emerged today was just sort of some of the hard realities of the depths of this scandal and how far it went. 20 people were charged in this. The ringleaders were a guy named Shane Hennan and Marv's Fairley. These guys are like career gamblers, career criminals. And they basically found ways through intermediaries, which included Antonio Blakeney, a former NBA player, star at lsu, to infiltrate these mostly small college basketball programs that convince guys to throw games. And, you know, you just look at the bets that were made on these tainted games. $458,000 on Towson to beat UNC A&T. $424,000 on Kent State to cover first half line against Buffalo. Look, I'm as you know, jaded and cynical as they come. And those like, blew my mind, Pat, that first of all, someone would wager that much. And second of all, that none of that got flagged. Now those probably weren't singular wagers. They were wagers done by this network of people who were, who were, who were fixing these games. But it's, you know, it's, it's an explosive day, you know, for modern college basketball. It's, you know, you get about one of these a decade, right? And this is significant and I think a lot of it speaks to how accessible gambling is right now. We saw the prop bet situation in the, in the NBA show up and, and this is a, some of the same unsavory folks that were tied to, that are also tied to, tied to this, allegedly. And yeah, it's a, it's, it's a pretty, it's, it's a pretty remarkable, remarkable sweeping investigation that was unsealed in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania today.
Pat McAfee
Shane Hennin has been linked to all of them, all the stories from the NBA with Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones. Jones all the way to Jerry Rozier and Porter.
Pete Thamel
Porter too.
Pat McAfee
And Porter, I believe Shane Hennan's been kind of linked to all of these things. And I believe there was a poker one that Chauncey was also a part of. I don't know if Shane was also a part of that one as well or not, but it feels like this Shane Hennan guy who has a lot of aliases is kind of a part of all of this. He seemingly figured out the racket and how to pitch or how to get people and it's kind of stretched now everywhere. Which leads to the next question of this whole thing. Ty?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Pete. How big of a concern is it that this is going to spill into the major conferences? Because like you said, it's, it's mostly, you know, very small mid majors is the thought that nil and the fact that, you know, a lot of these guys in the Big Ten, SEC, Big 12 are making millions of dollars a year right now that they're maybe not as susceptible to be caught in something like this or where does the NCAA stand on that as of right now?
Pete Thamel
So the biggest name school involved in this tie is DePaul in the Big East. There are a couple DePaul bets listed in the 70 page indictment today. And it looks like again there were four current players involved in this who played college basketball in the last week. Jeff Borzello reported that today, including a guy who got some buckets for Kennesaw State last night. But for the most part this is past tense. It's been rooted out. There's been like a Drip, drip, drip. There was a player who transferred a few times, ended up in Wisconsin this year, and all of a sudden he's not going to play for Wisconsin anymore because of interviews, ncaa, FBI, et cetera. So I do think that the damage is, that's listed here today is the extent of this scandal. I don't think we're going to see this flash up in some more familiar brands. And look, they preyed on the vulnerable. They preyed on the guys making $30,000 a year, not the guys making $300,000 a year. And, you know, it's pretty evident if you read through the indictment how they did this. They basically, they would show, they would. There's one portion where they sent pictures of $100,000 in cash and they were trying to encourage a guy, hey, tell your teammates like this is for them if they're going to, you know, lose by more than eight in the first half this, this weekend.
Pat McAfee
I hate it. And we're part of what a lot of people say is the problem because we talk about sports gambling and I can't stress this enough, people talking about sports gambling has been happening since the beginning of sports, I assume, and just in smaller circles and it's much bigger now and certainly much more accessible. You'd assume that amount of bets on a particular low level game on a Tuesday night would get flagged on handheld gambling. There's a chance a lot of this is still happening at brick and mortar casinos, which I would assume you would know more about, where they just. They also then have a fleet of runners that go and put these bets in that either either they know or don't know. And the people that are running the bets either know or don't know who the money's even coming from. That's potentially second generation get that money in there. So the amount of interesting kind of things that can happen in this modern space of sports gambling being legalized statewide, not federally, is certainly, you know, kind of rearing some ripple effects into the amount of people potentially getting caught. Now I would like to argue getting caught and getting caught up in a situation. I would like to argue though that the digital gambling will help root this out more because it's basically impossible not to track everything that happens on there. So it's gonna be in our world now because states are receiving tax from that. A lot of money being generated for these states. Very rarely does anybody in the history of government, from my understanding, I don't know it as well as everybody else do they turn off a pipeline of cash Into a state. I don't think that's ever happened. I don't know governments well enough, but I don't think that happens. So we need to understand that sports gambling is going to continue to happen, and it's probably only going to continue to grow because there's more states still that haven't been added. So, like, I'm happy that we're able to catch these folks, but I am scared if this, you know, like, I can't. Our sports cannot just be completely ruined because of it as well. It's a weird kind of dynamic that's kind of happening in front of us all make sports more interesting for people. You know, people are able to kind of feel a little bit more like they have a horse in a race now. Obviously, there's the downsides of it all. People can get addicted now. Granted, the digital ones cut you off. It's like there's just so many things. We're at a really, like a interesting breaking point of sports gambling and sports. This transition phase, probably 10 years or so. On the other side of it, what will it look like versus now? I don't know. It's wild. Yeah. This is like, you heard about the Black Sox, right?
Con Man
True.
Pat McAfee
And like, wait, Pete Rose, obviously his name. It was only like a couple stories that we had really ever heard about. Now, is that because it was tough to track, you know, Pete Rose got caught because he had a notebook, you know, and there was other Donahue books that were happening, you know, and being written. So if those were to be lit on fire, there'd be literally no evidence. So, like, I don't know, did it happen as much back then as it's happening now? Just feels like I'm learning of the new things happening and I don't like any of it. No. And it's all, like, seemingly easy to execute. Sounds like. Just gotta hope they get caught.
Ty Schmidt
Right.
Pat McAfee
And then the punishments have to be severe. Very heavy. Very heavy.
Ty Schmidt
Well, that's what's tough too, is like Pete said, you know, like, all this investigation has been going on and like all the. All these guys who were indicted who were in the investigation, several of them played. Played college basketball this week. So, like, the severity of the punishment really hasn't been there.
Pat McAfee
So it started in September 2022, from the article here. And it was initially focused on a Chinese Basketball association rigging of games. Okay, classic. How can we take advantage of something what is not covered much? The Chinese Basketball Association. Maybe we can get in there. And then the group later targeted college Basketball games offering bribes. College plays ranging from 10 to 30,000 compromise games for betting purposes.
Con Man
According to the indictment, those guys from those small schools who aren't going to the NBA, you'd assume they're probably going to the CBA or going over to Europe and playing overseas where they could probably kind of work around some of those things.
Pat McAfee
Maybe they have friends playing over there.
Con Man
Yeah, yeah, people, exactly. Like a network. That's when the network thing comes and they're not making.
Pat McAfee
All right, well, let's not continue to chat about this because college sports are awesome too. College sports are incredible. There's a lot of very good that we have to continue to chit chat about. But we also have to make sure that this can't happen okay anymore. Gotta stop. And gambling on games will be available for you when you're done playing sports. But while you're doing the sports, you can't be doing it. That's. These are two different things. You just can't be doing it. And hopefully the punishments will certainly set a tone that that has to stop. Let's get to college football now. Speaking of punishments, who do those come from? The big college game coming up. But there's other stuff happening around college.
Tone
That's a great question, Pete. The American Football Coaches association met this prior weekend and the college coaches unanimously voted for the red shirt to switch from four games. You can play in four games to nine games. And now it has to go to a committee I believe to be passed. What is the difference between the. The nine game red shirt rule versus. A lot of people have heard recently about the. The five for five, basically where once you start playing college football, you have five years to play. There's no red shirts or anything like that. Even if you're healthy for all five years, you can play all five years. So what's the difference between the. The nine game red shirt and maybe that? And then who is the committee that passes this and actually enforces this? Because that's the biggest question with college football right now is who is in charge of all this?
Pete Thamel
Great question, Stone. So to me, this is a little ways to go before it becomes a reality. Obviously the coaches are going to pass rules that favor the coaches. Right? Like, and this would obviously, this would obviously be good for them because they could use players longer, etc. But it feels to me like this is an either or. Right? If we don't get the five for five, this is the hedge on it. As for the actual committee, who's going to.
Pat McAfee
Who is.
Pete Thamel
Who's going to make this decision. I could. The confluence of convoluted NCAA committees, I will not bore you guys with. But yeah, it is going to be, you know, your general NCAA committee that's filled with athletic directors, probably some presidents, et cetera. And I just feel like holistically, college sports has to make a decision on eligibility and it has to make one soon. Just because, you know, you see all these seventh year, sixth year, all this stuff. Like there, there just needs to be a little bit more certainty around that. And all the lawsuits. Now, the NCAA will tell you that it's been harder for them to enforce some of their rules because places like Tennessee is getting an injunction for Diego. Like, there's all these things working against them on the micro level where it's been hard to set macro standards. And in this, this that passed in, you know, at the coaches convention this week is, is another, is another example of that. So I feel like we'll get some clarity on 5 for 5 this off season at some point. And if not, I would think that the, the red shirt switch would, would come into play. But it is. You do have to chuckle, like, what's the difference in nine games and 12 games? You know, like that's, you know that it is.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And who's.
Pete Thamel
Yeah, that was.
Pat McAfee
Force it. Who's going to enforce it? If somebody says, I don't want to do it, well, then there's another injunction and then there's. Well, how long does that go around? Who handles that? The courts? The local state courts? Because that's what's happening now with Winad right down there in Ole Miss. It's his Mississippi court. Now after watching Winnie, dad, we think at the next level, he, he might, he might do well. Yeah, he might. He might. He might do well at the NFL. Not saying that he ever thought he wouldn't, but just like watching him live in person, it's like, I don't think this is going to be the finality of him earning income by playing football. I think he's going to make money playing football for a long time. That's why the Pavia stuff interesting, like, how many years was he going to be allowed to play? It's always like the guys that you don't know what's going to happen in the NFL or you think maybe not good in the NFL. But who enforces any of it? The local state laws. Courts do. That's what's happening with Winnad. Right?
Pete Thamel
Yes. So Trinidad Chambers, lawyer Tom Mars, and a local attorney who actually founded Ole Mrs. Collective are expected to file either tomorrow or early next week for an injunction, you know, to help secure his eligibility for 2026. Chambers is a fascinating draft case, Pat, if you look at it. I made a few calls last week on, you know, what guys thought of him, and he's still like a third, fourth round type pick. Now, look, quarterbacks value and need those things. Often, you know, are in line, right? Like, there's probably seven teams that really need quarterbacks right now and would draft him this year. And it's hard to find, you know, seven viable quarterbacks who could be NFL starters coming up in this draft class, you know, especially with Dante Moore. Dante Moore staying. Once you, once you get past Fernando Mendoza and Ty Simpson, there's probably a pretty good gap on where you'd go. So it's an interesting crossroads for Chambliss because he would certainly make more money in college next year than he would in the NFL next year. And if he has another season like he had, you would think he, you know, he'd obviously grow as a passer. You would think maybe he's, he's in good position for the 27 draft. But the 27 draft could be historically loaded with quarterbacks. You have Arch, you have Dante Moore, and there is a, you know, there's a huge flurry of others. It's expected to be, you know, a once a decade type depth, quarterback class as everything comes together. So it'd be interesting for Chambers. He's an easy guy to root for, right? Like, the story's unbelievable. You know, the performance against Georgia was probably the defining individual performance in college football this year. You could argue, you know, he's been, he's been a remarkable player. You know, being around him a little bit in, in Phoenix last week, one of the Ole Miss staff members described him as bubbly. Like he just said, there's an effervescence around him. He's a remarkable kid and remarkable, remarkable story. Be great for college football if he's there. And ultimately that's going to be up to an NCAA appeal or the, the courts in Mississippi, which Tom Mars memorably said would be a more level playing field for Ole Miss.
Pat McAfee
For the Rebels, yes, much more level playing field. The eyes are in the beholder, certainly in that whole thing. Yeah, Trinidad is special. He looks sweet. He's thrown to a spot. He's doing all this stuff. Less need of the Rams. GM actually says he likes the story of the guys coming from smaller schools and transferring up. Feels like they're hungry. Feels like they're you know, more humble. It's like, I think, you know, third, fourth round. Sure. But let's see what happens with the draft class. And then you talked about his game against Georgia being a transformative one of the season. I agree. Fernando Mendoza has more touchdowns than interceptions in a college football playoff right now.
Ty Schmidt
Incompletions.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I'm sorry, Incompletions. He has more touchdowns than incompletions in the entirety of the college football playoffs thus far. So that's six point throws, verse throws to the other team. He has what, two incompletions. I think last couple games each. It's been a methodical ass beating from Fernando Mendoza. Will they be able to do it against Miami? We find out. Big college game on Monday. We'll see you down there. We appreciate the hell out of you. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Pete Daniel.
Con Man
Thank you, baby.
Pat McAfee
Good journalism there.
Ty Schmidt
The best.
Pat McAfee
Harbaugh to the bottom of it. Didn't hear the first time because we had bad connection, poor connection out there on the street. We appreciate Shefter joining us even whenever it's all happening like that. But he hit that thing again. They had a plan and a deal basically in place whenever he left the building. Had to get some other things figured out. Some other I's dotted, some other T's crossed. Happy they got that done. I'm watching Pete on ESPN on our show right there. He looks so cool when he does.
Tone
He does.
Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah, he does. He knows how to wear a toque. He does.
Pat McAfee
He certainly does, doesn't he? A lot of magical things happening in the football world. Commanders debuted what their new stadium is going to look like. And Grazzi looks like a monument.
Tone
Yes, it does.
Pat McAfee
It looks like it fits in perfectly for the surrounding area. It is obviously modern technology, modern engineering. It has a beautiful look to it and I'm happy it doesn't look the exact same as all of them. Now they all start to look alike. Now granted, the shape of a football field is certainly gonna shape the stadium itself. You know, like the Aussie rules football down there. They have a big round and the cricket grounds is a big round because that's what it calls the game. The games call for. Football stadium gonna be a football field shape.
Con Man
Sure.
Pat McAfee
A lot of people saying these things all look the same. It's like I think they're all going to have a similar shape. I think they all are going to have a football field like shape. Even though somebody could come in and just put a big sphere around that thing and have it be Completely circle. So I love the way this looks. I assume the lighting is going to be outrageous, that they're going to have on these pillars. The primetime game is going to be crazy. And it's right there on the water, you know, so we wonder about the water, especially down there in dc. We did a little research. Church, what is that water that's right next to that stadium? And is that going to be a part of. Are they. Are they going to be sail gating there, those commanders? Are we going to have boats on the water outside of the Commander's Monument Stadium out there?
Tone
These are all really, really good questions. And obviously this is being built at the site of the old RFK stadium. And that is the Anacostia River, Pat. It's about nine miles long, named after the Anacostan Native Americans of that region back in the time. So it's basically a tribute river to them.
Pat McAfee
Oh. Tell you what, which is good. That's good for a brand. That's good for what's going on.
Con Man
Maybe change the name.
Pat McAfee
Maybe he leads it. Maybe that's a tributary.
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
Tone
It's quote unquote, DC's forgotten river. You asked, Tone, why. Why is that the case? Well, they had a lot of sewage problems. Okay. So when. When it rained heavily and stuff like that, the sewage runoff into this river caused problems for years and years and years. There was lawsuits in 2004 and 2011. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Views by poop.
Pete Thamel
Yeah.
Tone
Not a lot of people going in there.
Pat McAfee
And the people living on the Anacostia were like, bingo, this river is. Is full of poop.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
That's what this river is. It's a poopy river.
Tone
But I have good news. Due to the Clean Rivers project, which is supposed to be completed in 2030, which is around probably when the stadium supposed to be completed as well, the. We're gonna have a brand new, beautiful smelling Anacostia River.
Pat McAfee
2030.
Tone
2030. This is a river that. This is a river that John Smith, you know, John's. Anyone? Everyone? Captain John Smith. Everyone.
Ty Schmidt
Captain John Smith.
Tone
Yeah. And he helped found Jamestown. This. This river that he. He sailed up. And this is a river that played an integral part in the Civil War.
Pat McAfee
This is.
Tone
This is a river that is a forgotten river in dc.
Pat McAfee
Forgotten no more.
Tone
Bingo. And all this will return it to its full glory.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And I'm happy for the Anacostia.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Kind of getting back at it. Was the poop river associated with the poop pipes of the stadium.
Ty Schmidt
Had to have been a lot of.
Pat McAfee
Poop kind of running around what's going on in the Commander's past.
Ty Schmidt
Yes. Although they did just have a very poopy season as well.
Pat McAfee
Well, that's because they had some poopy injuries.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
But I did not know that the commanders were going to be surrounded by poop all the time. They've gotten to poop completely. They're trying to fix that.
Tone
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Queen Rivers Project said the commanders of old, the poopy. Very, very.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Poopy commanders are of the past. We're gonna clean this river. Mm. Poop no more. We're gonna make sure these pipes aren't bursting on people's heads that are carrying the poop through the Anacostia. Because that was happening at the last state.
Ty Schmidt
It was.
Pat McAfee
We were just walking around that stage. I'm watching this team that used to have a different name. It used to be good. And the ownership seemingly hates us and everybody hates everything. And boom, pipe burst as they're carrying their nachos. What's coming out? Boom, boom. Nachos. Eat it. That's not beans. That's not beans. That's what. That's what was happening in the stadium.
Tone
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
And now you're telling me that river is going to be a clean river and our poop pipes are no longer going to burst. They got Jaden Daniels. Dane Quinn moves on completely from his defense coordinator and his offense coordinator says we something new. We just need. We can't do what we just did. That. What we just did was very, very poopy.
Tone
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Moved on. Clean Rivers project their stadium. They Clean Rivers project their team, and they Clean Rivers project the Anacostia river that they're putting their stadium on. I'll tell you what. Brighter days ahead, less poopier days ahead.
Tone
Yeah. I think the end goal is to have the Anacostia maybe rival the Potomac and then in turn, the Commander.
Pat McAfee
Good luck, Potomac. Very big.
Tone
Yeah, very big.
Pat McAfee
Very, very decent.
Tone
But we can. We can dream, can't we?
Pat McAfee
Anacostia can. I think it's gonna be tough whenever they show it on a map, but it could be a mighty nine miles.
Tone
Very mighty.
Pat McAfee
But there's another river that they call mighty. I think that one is the big one.
Tone
Yeah, it is.
Ty Schmidt
You think there's any concern that if the commanders aren't great, after the river's been cleaned up, people start saying, you know what? No, I'm gonna go take a shit in the Anacostia. The last time we were good, the last time we went to an NFC championship game, the Anacostia was Loaded with poop. And now it's clean. So after the game, everybody actually halftime, everybody go outside, don't go to the bathrooms, take a shit in the Anacostia instead.
Con Man
Well, that's why they need to just do full blown war on poop. Nobody really is pro poop unless it's healthy, of course. But no one wants to smell like that. So when we're talking about the stadium as a whole, because looking at it, it is open for AI into toilet bowl. Just the shape of it, but they could do full. Hey, let's name this stadium, you know, Charmin Ultra. The Charmin Stadium.
Pat McAfee
Oh, to clean up the poop.
Con Man
Yeah, the Porta Potty Stadium. You know, some wipes.
Pat McAfee
Poop.
Con Man
Exactly. They need to lean into it almost like, hey, yeah, so what, we had poop pipes, we have a poop river. But now we are the ones leading the charge.
Pat McAfee
But I think what they're saying is we don't have to do all that because we're not going to be synonymous with poop anymore. I think that's. They're trying to do that angle. But I respect what you're saying. If you can't beat that poop in the River 5 and 12, which remember the Olympics, they tried, loaded.
Tone
They tried.
Con Man
They person got sick.
Tone
Yeah. Got in there.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, them just the mayor jumped in there then. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Jumped into the sand.
Pat McAfee
Gargling it over in a bit. Look, I'm telling you, the river's clean. We got to do this Olympic and everybody's like, I don't think so.
Ty Schmidt
Smelled like poop for two months.
Con Man
Yeah. People who ran the. Or did the whole race side decathlon or whatever.
Pat McAfee
No, they didn't die, but they got.
Con Man
They got like a, like a stomach poison sickness from the pool.
Tone
Speaking of, I do have a health advisor.
Pat McAfee
I think once poop gets in, it's hard to get out. Yeah. But we are hoping that they are able to to get the poop out of the Anacostia. Because that stadium on that river with sailgating happening on the outside of that, with the drone shots that they have these days. Did you see the drone shot of Pittsburgh?
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
The other night?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
That might have been the most beautiful I've ever seen. Pittsburgh Obviously coming out 4 Pit Tunnel, you have the best view in all cities. I think is the title. Them having this as the shot coming back right down a point right there. Allegheny on one side, Monongahela on the other. They come to create the Ohio river, which obviously goes over to Ohio. It's three Rivers. That's the point that you were seeing there. There is the city that resides inside of it. We have the most bridges out of any city in the world because of how much water kind of surrounds our town. Which I don't want to say immediately leads to a lot of Italians because there's a lot of water, lot of moving. Okay. Things like that. These rivers never been talked about as being ones that you go ahead and get in. There's been a lot of chatter about cleaning these rivers since I'm probably born and probably before I was around when I wasn't even thought of about cleaning these rivers. Feels like it's really hard to clean rivers. Yeah. Yeah, I think it is really hard to clean rivers. Now that one's only nine miles. Hopefully they're able to clean it because that has a chance to be the best looking setup in all of Wall.
Con Man
Oh, yeah.
Tone
Can I tell you part of how they're cleaning it?
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Tone
Fun fact, if you go to DC, don't eat the mussels, okay? 2018, they dumped 9,000 mussels into the Anacostia River. Because mussels, they eat.
AJ Hawk
They get the.
Tone
They get rid of shit like no other creature.
Pat McAfee
That's where they grow because they eat it down.
Ty Schmidt
Mussels love poop.
Con Man
Poop.
Pat McAfee
Mushrooms love poop.
Ty Schmidt
They.
Tone
They've. The mussels have already purified 32 million gallons.
Ty Schmidt
Mushrooms too, though.
Con Man
Mushrooms love poop as well. They grow from poop, but muscles, they. They can't get enough. They just suck down like there's no.
Pat McAfee
They're the biggest commanders.
Tone
Don't eat the muscles or the poop.
Pat McAfee
I'm assuming they're not getting Anacostia River.
Con Man
I would hope so.
Tone
If they're in a tough.
Con Man
They're more crap.
Pat McAfee
They're in a tough spot.
Tone
They send away. We need to get you down here.
Ty Schmidt
Cost.
Pat McAfee
Congrats to them getting a great stadium though. Feels like everybody has said, like, hey, really good stadium. Also, congrats to tennis. We've been talking about tennis a little bit more than we could have ever imagined. Shout out to Ben Shelton, right? He's the stud with Trinity Rodman. Ben Shelton. I met him down in Atlanta. Knows the program, watches the program. Also immediate shit talk. Immediate. Which I respect and I appreciate. Very tall, very handsome, strapping lad. Yeah, he is a guy so obviously want to get into tennis. Cause I would like to support him because he seems like cool dude. I like what he's doing and representing out here, so we like that a lot. But tennis has been Doing some stuff that makes them interesting. We remember the story from last week, I believe, where some lady who's clearly never played tennis before ended up in an actual tennis tournament and just got absolutely smoked, but laughed the whole time. Got a point because the other person got a fault who was an actual professional tennis player. It looked just as hilarious as it sounds. This is real. This happened in tennis world. Now to tee up for the Australian Open, which is all the way. Don Underdowner, long flight, but obviously the Australian Open, a big one in the tennis world. Beautiful area. They did something I've never seen before. And this is incredible. Con man.
Con Man
Incredible as well. Of the greatest pieces of sporting kind of news you could probably watch. It was called the million dollar one point slam. It was 48 total players, both men and women, both pros, amateurs and some celebrities. One of the celebrities being Bailey Smith, our friend from the afl, of course, as we all remember. But Jordan Smith, who ended up beating Bailey to start out this tournament, was an amateur, 29 years old from Australia, and he beat Pete Bailey Smith. Laura Pegosi, who's the women's world number 86 ranked tennis player. Jannik Sinner, who's the number two tennis player in the world for men's. Amanda Anissimova, who is also the world's number four for women. Pedro Martinez, not the baseball player, the tennis player. And then in the final, Joanna Garland. And he won a million dollars. It was one point the entire way. Janik Sinner actually had a double fault. That's how he lost. It was incredible.
Pat McAfee
Rock, paper, scissors to decide who serves. Okay? Because obviously serving is an advantage in tennis. The amateurs got two faults, you know, got a fault and then got a chance to serve. So two serves, one fault. The pros did not get a fault. So center faults on him, he loses just one serve for the pros, two for the amateurs. I looked into this. I love this. How many people were in it as.
Con Man
48 total people, 16amateurs like Jordan Smith, who qualified throughout different matches in Australia.
Pat McAfee
It's a brilliant idea. Yeah, it is a brilliant idea. One million bucks, one point. Little exciting. Tennis has been trying to do it. Yeah, tennis has been trying to do it honestly. And there was a time where tennis was pop culture. Very relevant, obviously, because the characters that are playing tennis, and they certainly still have great people, but their sport also has the chance to be a little bit more electric, you know, like their setups are certainly what they are, you know, And I think the Brits get after it right over there.
Con Man
And, oh, yeah, Wimbledon, our friend told us about Nigel.
Pat McAfee
Nigel. They get after it in there. So it's like, I think tennis has a lot of opportunity and we are appreciating what they're doing. And we don't think amateurs should be playing against pros all the time, but like a million dollar gimmick state fair, like. Yeah. To drum up a little interest in the Australian Open. Yeah, I like that that's happening in the tennis world.
Con Man
Awesome. Now, I know the Australian Open's going on for one, you know, let alone to what you were saying about tennis. They have the two young guys, like, they have the younger versions of the legends. It feels like Federer and Joker and people of that ilk. But with Alcaraz and Sinner also participating in this stuff feels like a massive deal, too. Like, not just as, you know, the tennis people trying to drum up conversation about it, but their biggest stars are also like, hey, yeah, we're all in on this.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so tennis is electric. We like that going in as we head into less football here. We like that tennis is doing that. Golf's coming back soon, I believe. Okay.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. TGL the other night.
Pat McAfee
Okay. TGL the other night.
Tone
Sony Open today.
Pat McAfee
The Open starting today. Brooks Koepka is back with the pga. I mean, there is good stuff happening. We got to remember that in college hoops. Even though there's obviously some investigations going on at different levels, they're delivering. Last night we had four buzzer beaters. Let's go to Ole Miss. Beaten Georgia, number 2197, 95. Put back Patton Pickens. Ole Miss wins 97, 95 at the buzzer in Georgia. Congratulations to them.
Ty Schmidt
That's a great coach. Beard. Hey, you know, it took him a while a couple months ago, he's basically saying, what are we going to do to win? He said, well, I could sit everyone's ass and play new players. Those guys have seemingly kind of responded. Look for Ole Miss down the stretch here in a tough sec.
Pat McAfee
Oh, maybe he's built a culture down there.
Ty Schmidt
Maybe.
Pat McAfee
Late put back by Patton. Pink is in. Let's go do Kentucky and the Bayou. Taking on lsu. Buzzer beater, long ball catch shoot. Very reminiscent of Christian Leitner. Malachi Moreno with the incredible bucket catch turn. Great throw, by the way. Yeah, not a loaded quarterback draft class in the NFL.
Ty Schmidt
Something to think about here.
Pat McAfee
That was precision. And also threw a three ball, you know, through a three ball, which is up and over, which is what he had to do to make sure his guy was the only guy that could catch that and then Malachi Marino with the quickness and also awareness of when he has to get that out, splash like he was born for the moment.
Con Man
Yeah. And you can see there. Kentucky's 10 and 6. They needed that big time. You saw Pope at the end with his hands up like holy hell. Thank goodness we won this game, especially against LSU. Massive victory for the Wildcats.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, and the SEC's tough. Look, LSU is 12 and four. They're owing three in the SEC. Kentucky's 10 and six. They're one and three in the SEC. Any SEC wins a good win, especially whenever you got magic happening full length of the court.
Tone
Can you go back to that video pointing out the very end?
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Con Man
They got got.
Tone
They got. Got the. The 1 and the 1 and 2 at the bottom for Kentucky. The 0 and 3 for LSU changes to 1 and 3. 1 and 3. Because they thought that game was over.
Pat McAfee
Oh, did that.
Con Man
No, no, no.
Pat McAfee
They said, not so fast, my friend. Coach Corso, hope you're great. What a wild finish. Would love to hear Dicky V on that call.
Con Man
Maybe.
Pat McAfee
Unbelievable. Okay, let's go down to SMU. Don two against Virginia Tech. 2.6 seconds left left. SMU, obviously in Dallas. Let's not just look for the shot. Let's look for the fire off the top of the back. Boopy Miller, Pyro. What a name.
Ty Schmidt
Great name.
Pat McAfee
Boopy from half court. Electrifying time down there at Moody Coliseum. David B. Miller court. Shout out to the SMU Mustangs. And that type of pyro. Perfect for the moment. Whoever's on the trigger. The button for the pyro. You did it.
Con Man
Respect.
Pat McAfee
I mean, the timing in which it falls, how he goes about, and then the power sheet and the amount of power this flame have. Like, They don't know how much gas they got left. No, this is the end of the game.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we are. We're doing the entirety. Congratulations to SMU getting a huge win. And then in women's college hoop. I don't like it. No. In Morgan time.
Ty Schmidt
What?
Pat McAfee
In the Hope Coliseum. I wonder how long it's been named that. Buckets.
AJ Hawk
Oh, no.
Pat McAfee
5150. TCU gets a win over a very, very tough West Virginia Mountaineer team. West Virginia currently 41 in the Big 12 TCU as well. 161 versus 14 and 3 in Morgantown in. Unbelievable shot by Marta Suarez. Yeah, I mean, Marta Suarez is ice cold, dude. That's what you just need to know.
Ty Schmidt
What are you gonna do, you know?
Con Man
I mean, can we get a hand up maybe that's what we're gonna do. Good God.
Pat McAfee
What do you mean there's a hand in her face?
Con Man
Can we get pressure?
Pat McAfee
A little bit of ball pressure? Suarez is gonna pull up for three if you're hurt.
Ty Schmidt
No.
Pat McAfee
You think she's gonna try to get an easier shot?
Con Man
That's fine. Let's go over. Let's go of extra time.
Ty Schmidt
You got to respect that. She might, you know, take that to the cup. But look at the jab step. She.
Con Man
I mean, take it to the cup. There's three. There's 2.8 seconds left.
Ty Schmidt
You never know.
Pat McAfee
Then the thought is, you know, yeah, I'm not. I'm not. West VI is a good basketball team.
Tone
They great basketball team.
Con Man
I hope they beat good record.
Tone
I just saw it last week.
Ty Schmidt
Iowa State's leaking oil right now, unfortunately.
Pat McAfee
You don't want to be a monster in this particular time.
Con Man
That's true.
Pat McAfee
Monster March. Let's keep our eyes.
Con Man
Let's get there.
Tone
You want to make the tournament, though?
Con Man
Yeah, let's get there.
Pat McAfee
Okay. We are that definitely as Iowa State Cyclones go make tournaments. So is West Virginia an absolute stud group of basketball players? Let's go to the top 25 for the men. Anything we need to notice here, Foxy, that you've kind of circled in your eyes, you know, Arizona number one, Iowa State number two. UConn number three. How many people there's undefeated or something along those lines?
Ty Schmidt
Two undefeated teams left. Just Arizona and then arguably the biggest story of this year so far. Nebraska is undefeated. Fred Hoiberg, former head coach at Iowa State, I think he's at one point he was their all time leading scorer and then he went and coached in the NBA, was the head coach of the Bulls for a while. He went to Nebraska and they have. Remember Casey Tomanaga a couple years ago, but they are legit and they've already beat quite a few ranked teams.
Con Man
Good teams in the Big Ten missed Tomonaga big time. Our guy Cole Pete for Arizona, he's damn near player of the year for college basketball in his inaugural year to the entire thing. He's probably going to be, you know, top pick. Bang. Unbelievable. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
This kid is, if I remember, offensive lineman Dad, I think and brother would.
Con Man
Be great in a place that has a really good point guard who's very good at passing to work with Allah.
Pat McAfee
Indianapolis Indiana, Tyrese Halliburton certainly getting more healthy and healthy by the day. We're happy and proud of him for the work he's put in. Also koa. Thank you for letting us be a part of your story. And also congrats on dominating out there. So college hoops is hitting.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it, it really is. Like right now you're starting to get into the teeth of conference play. So, like there are good games every single night, especially as football is ending here. There's at least probably like one to two top 25 matchups that'll be happening on most Tuesdays and Thursdays.
Pat McAfee
All right, as we wrap up our one here, we got some interesting details from the Coach Tomlin team meeting that happened at 2 o' clock on Tuesday. Fascinating stuff about how emotional got in there both. We have the Christian Co podcast where he talks about it and then a report from Defaulo, the athletic writer for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Fascinating, you know, information from both of them. And also a very, I mean, it felt like it was a very somber, emotional, emotional moment. We'll learn about that, talk about that and everything else going on in the world. We'll see you then. Goodbye. This is Marshawn Lynch, AKA Beast Mode, checking in this holiday season. Everybody out here stressing, shopping, rapping, cooking, but me trying to kick back Marshall Sports and go green on my Prize Picks lineups. Right now, Prize Picks is getting into the festive spirit where new users get $50 instantly in lineups. When you play your first $5, it's real simple to play. Pick two or more players, pick more or less on their stat projections and you could win big. It's real quick. Quick, faster than heating up leftovers. Mix and match players from any sport all season long on Prize Picks, America's number one daily fantasy sports app available in 45 states, including California, Texas, Florida and Georgia. Download the Prize Picks app today and use code TPMS and get 50 instantly in site credits when you play $5. That's code TPMS on prize picks to get 50 instantly in site credits. When you play $5. Win or lose, you'll get 50 bucks in site credits for just playing. Guaranteed Prize Picks. It's good to be right.
AJ Hawk
Must be present in certain states.
Pat McAfee
Visit prizepix.com for restrictions and details. Hey fans, welcome back to Fansville's cheers and tears. Oh, okay, so like everybody deals with losing, right? To a rival and a last second field goal, whatever. It's fine. I'm totally fine. But I cope with losing with an ice cold Dr. Pepper. Those 23 flavors are like so delicious. They totally wash away the pain of your college football team taking a big fat L. College football. It's a pepper thing. Football. Today's a big day because obviously we're just two days away from divisional rounds. Saturday in the NFL, divisional round, Sunday in the NFL, and then big college game Monday. The national championship will be taking place down in Miami. And we are giving away two tickets all week to two people. Well, I guess eight people in total, two at a time to get a chance to enjoy maybe history being wrote for the Indiana Hoosiers, no longer just a basketball school, now a football powerhouse. And then the Miami Hurricanes coming all the way back into football prominence in a way that is not only electrifying but also very physical. Two teams that have similar identities will be battling against each other. Two veteran quarterbacks who have handled the pressure and the moments incredibly well will battle against each other. And two coaches who I don't think would be scared to fight each other if they had to or anybody else will try to lead their men into immortalization. Nailed it.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
That's what big college game Monday is. That's what we're giving away tickets for today. We'll be giving away two tickets to the first 10 people, to somebody within the first 10 people who are able to guess the combined power punch number of the toxic table. Who will take two shots. Highest number being used for each of them at this punching machine that is sitting in the middle of the Thunderdome. Ty will punch it two times. We'll get his highest score. Connor will punch it two times, we'll take his highest score. They will be added together for one score. It goes from zero to a thousand. What will that number be? You can guess it right now on X. Use the hashtag pmsseekgeekpunchout. You can only do three guesses in total. We will know the number before everybody else. We will not show the final score before it is figured out who will be in the top 10 and who will only three answers per person. Okay. Because we don't need you counting to a 2000.
Con Man
None under.
Pat McAfee
Okay? Three guesses. And if you're under, you're going to be out. The opposite of price is right rules. If nobody has it right at the two scores at this rate, we'll go up a point, up another point to find a group that we can randomize the winner for. So we'll be giving away two tickets today. We gave away four tickets yesterday. We can't thank you all enough for allowing us to do this for a living. It's only right to be to able, especially if you have SeatGeek as a ticket partner. Now, SeatGeek is the greatest ticket buying platform on planet Earth and the moon. They have the cheapest tickets available at any event.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Big college game, divisional round theater, comedy, music. If there's tickets to it, SeatGeek's got the best deal for you. And if they. If they have a green dot next to the ticket, that's their AI telling you, like, hey, we scanned the Internet. This is a good ticket for a good deal. If there's a red dot next to it, it's like, hey, you're getting ripped off on this ticket. There's a better deal somewhere else. So SeatGeek isn't just about moving tickets. It's about letting you know, like, hey, if you need this ticket right now, yes, you can certainly get it. There's no catfishing. It will be exactly what you buy. But this is a bad deal. This is not a good deal. That's what the red dot is.
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
Con Man
Changed my life.
Pat McAfee
Green dot is, hey, let's go. This is good deal. You should feel very comfortable doing this. Now you're going to say, well, I don't trust it. Well, you can look into it yourself and any company that's willing to tell you this is a bad deal. We appreciate SeatGeek's been like that since the beginning. Yeah. Now, granted, I think we got green dots whenever we bought these tickets for these giveaways.
Ty Schmidt
Sure.
Pat McAfee
They're expensive.
Ty Schmidt
Very, very expensive.
Pat McAfee
This is an insanely expensive big college game. And that's because there's so much story and history that could be made that evening down there at the Hard Rock. Miami win at home. Indiana win. Yeah. Both huge. We're going to be on the sideline for another field pass. Potentially final field. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see how that goes. We've enjoyed it. We don't like to run things in the ground, though. Yeah. You know, we don't like to do it, but field pass is the coolest thing that we get to do. We're so thankful. Thankful we're going to be there. Join us on ESPN2 talks to table. You're at boss of Connor at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer done. Cowboys. AP town is here. Con man, huge weekend. A ball coming up. Especially for your.
Con Man
Yeah. Very jacked up. Especially jacked up for kind of the first games on Saturday. You know, the one seeds we haven't seen play a lot of fodder around the Seahawks and Broncos. And now we finally get to watch them play a couple playoff games on. Yeah. Sunday. We don't have to get into how pumped I am. For the Patriots game itself, I'm excited to see how the weather turns out because we got some weather updates yesterday and the New England weather has. Yes, there it is. But boom. Has very much kind of turned to a wintry storm, cold kind of situation. But Illinois in Chicago, they're saying it's going to be zero degrees. So you better buckle up, you better be ready. Better have some hand warmers. And for Caleb and Stafford, you know, I'm hearing a lot of people talk about Stafford not being able to play in the cold, as if he's some bum in his second year in the NFL. That doesn't really make much sense. I believe he played at the old Vikings stadium, not just the new one indoors. And then, of course, Caleb, you know, here we go. Can he do 3/4 of absolute shite and then turn it around in the fourth? It's going to be great to watch these things play out and then go into the conference championship weekend over under.
Pat McAfee
48 and a half. It's going to feel like it's single digits, if not zero degrees there. You automatically think, oh, this is going to be tight football. It's going to be low football. 24, one person have 25. One team have 24. That's what they would make. That's a lot of scoring. You think to yourself, Hembo sent some stats over the over is 18 and nine in playoff games with freezing kickoffs over the last 10 seasons. Okay, that does not make it a guarantee. Obviously batten 100% more on the other side than the loss column is a little bit different. But what's that?
Con Man
Well, freezing is 32, so.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but still. Yeah, but still. It's cold. They're saying you.
Con Man
You've talked about it before. Hey, look, 30, 32 in zero. Yeah, there. There's a big. Especially when you're talking about wind gusts up to 20 miles per hour.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. The Tennessee Volunteers, I think, learned that a little bit. It's called Tennessee. It's cold Tennessee. We got snow here, we get ice here. We have it all. Zero is a little bit different. But cold games in the playoffs, allegedly, if you're talking about from a Hembo statistic point, it's like, don't just necessarily bet it all on the under because you're naturally going to think that it's going to be poopy football. Yeah.
Tone
There's normally an overreaction from the people in the books thinking it's going to be super low scoring. So I.
Pat McAfee
There's a chance it is, though. Let's not get crazy. 20 mile an hour.
Tone
Gus and I would be, I would love to see what the average over under for those games is because 48 and a half for those type of games is 48 and a half is not a low total. Yeah and that's not surprising because the, the Bears defense, while very, very, very opportunistic, does give up some points and obviously they have a really good offense with, with Caleb and then the Rams offense is also very good but they've gave up some points recently as well. Well so I, I would not personally would not be shocked to see it go over but the wind like we've always talked about, it's not necessarily the cold always, it's that up to 28, 28 mile hour gust, like that's, that's some real significant wind.
Pat McAfee
25 mile an hour gust NFLweather.com is saying. But still 25, 28, 30, 40. What is real, what is not, especially in Chicago if it's that cold. Okay. Wind at that temperature is obviously a nightmare. 48 and a half feels like a little lot. Feels like a lot. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen is the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay Packers. He's used to a frozen Tundra game, lives for it. College football national champion, Super bowl champion A.J. hawk Hawker. The wind is the nightmare, especially for the offensive side of things. It's going to be cold, you know, there's going to be a little bit of weather. NFLweather.com Hilarious thing. I believe a guy named Rick just kind of started it as a hobby, just kind of offers it up to the world. You're welcome. Is kind of his contribution to society, right Bruce? Yeah, passion project.
AJ Hawk
There are a couple ads on there. I'm zoomed in so you can't see them right now, but yeah, it's free. Free for NFL fans. Just know what's going on and obviously great for gambling as well.
Pat McAfee
I mean there's, there's only a matter of time before Rick@nflweather.com is approached by somebody because this is a great piece of information you're talking about any of the games, especially in the gambling world, whenever you're talking about it, Chicago can certainly get chilly. AJ what are your thoughts on Matthew Stafford who's obviously very veteran man of the NFC north and has obviously played in tough conditions and the LA Rams traveling to that. And Caleb, you know, I know he's the Bears quarterback but how many of these games has he played in? You know that's like Aaron Rodgers, California guy And obviously he played at Cal Berkeley and I'm sure he had some cold games. But when you ask him about why he played so well at Green Bay, it's like it sucks. He's got to embrace the suck. And also my hands are gigantic. Yeah. You know, so that's kind of the thing. It becomes a mental kind of win over the other team. But Caleb very new there. It's almost like Stafford has more experience in this particular weather. Maybe, maybe then Caleb would. Interesting dynamic as we look at it age.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, it is. And obviously both these guys have crazy live arms that can throw in this kind of weather. We know that. But it's true. It's all about the wind. Like nothing affects like the, the total score. I feel like of a game more than, than the wind situation if it's like five to ten every once on whatever. But if it's gusting 25 to 30 mile an hour wind, that absolutely has a huge effect on both offenses, the kicking game, everything just becomes more and more difficult.
Pat McAfee
And mentally, you know, know you can find out who's who. Not that these guys in the divisional round are going to be anything but dogs. Dogs are everywhere. But mentally when the wind gets going and it's cold and you start losing, like if you're not going to play good for like three quarters, that weather can be an added beat down. You know, that can be an added beat down. We watch it. Very different story. But we watch it with Tennessee versus Ohio State. There was a moment where it was like, this is the worst night of our lives. This get us out of here. How do you do that? That can happen when the weather gets terrible and cold and we.
Con Man
Yeah, and if you go back to a year ago with the Rams, we talked about this before they played the Eagles in the snowstorm. Like we remember Saquon banging on his head running into the end zone. But the Rams were driving down the field. Puka Nakua damn near going in to win. And then, you know, Eagles win the Super Bowl.
Pat McAfee
So we're going to find out if the weather is a home field advantage for the home team. Yeah, is what we're going to find out.
Con Man
For one of the games.
Pat McAfee
We would assume for one of the games.
Con Man
Let's not, let's not say that. That in a very general. For Chicago, we're going to find out.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Another thing though here for Chicago, they've been training for this. Allegedly. Adam Hoge, journalist is reporting. Ben Johnson has been making the Bears practice in the cold without heaters this season. Kevin Byard laughed and said, it's been a complaint amongst the players, but it's going to pay off this weekend. We've been miserable all season with the complaining that happens. We've already done it. We've already done all the complaining. And Ben Johnson, the night before that speech, right before the game, you know, doing the. All of it, just saying, like, you've been cold, remember? You remember you were yelling. That's what today is. You're no longer scared of the cold. You were born in the cold almost. Because it is an added fuel to how. Because feel good, play good. You know, cold can make you not feel good.
AJ Hawk
And a cold can definitely mentally get into some guy's heads pregame. You go out there to pregame for the first time, your whole team gets together. All right, here we go. And that. You go out there and you feel the wind and you feel how cold it actually is. And there's definitely guys that are going to be on that field that have. It'll be the coldest game they've ever been a part of. Some guys will get all gassed up by it and say, this is awesome. And some guys will be like, hopefully they run the ball today. And this is a quick one because I don't want to be out here too long.
Pat McAfee
Excited for football weather football.
Con Man
Yes.
Pat McAfee
We have made it to the divisional round. We have a head coach that has been hired. AJ John Harbaugh hired as the New York Giants head coach last night around 11:50 p. I would have thought he maybe had a bedtime, but then I remember Harbaugh probably doesn't sleep. You know, still working out hardball. Probably doesn't sleep much. He's the new leader of the New York Football Giants. Your thoughts, AJ Is it kind of look like this is going to happen, but officially does.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, definitely. You could see this coming. It really. I don't know what it is like the, the New York Giants brand. It seems to. To mesh well with having John Harbaugh come in there. You know, you hear about him being a disciplinarian, holds guys accountable, all of that stuff.
Pat McAfee
So.
AJ Hawk
So yeah, this makes a lot of sense. And what they. What's his deal? Give him crazy amount of money too, to come in there. Which I understand this isn't about the money for a guy like Harbaugh, but it's probably the best opportunity he has.
Pat McAfee
Five years, $100 million. Obviously New Jersey taxes in that entire thing. So you add that in, you factor that in like other states. He was in Maryland. So I Assume he had already, you know, accounted for all of that as he rolls forward. But five years, $100 million, which immediately led me to say, well, then that means lafleur. Okay. Lafleur now knows exactly where the market is. Right. If he was to be negotiating with the packers and Schefter said they both expect the deal to be done. Both the packers and LaFleur, it's like, okay, well, maybe Harbaugh has helped LaFleur's contract a little bit. Or maybe Harbaugh has kind of set up what these coaches contracts are going to look like going forward. 20 million a year. Obviously Harbaugh very accomplished is a big number. Number, yeah. That's a big number. I think Tomlin, there was a report that he had 50 million remaining two years left. 50 million, yeah. So he was making 25 million a year. Is that how it read?
Ty Schmidt
That's what that is how I read it as well, yes.
Pat McAfee
So I guess that is like a number that think him and McVeigh.
AJ Hawk
We don't know. We like.
Pat McAfee
We don't.
AJ Hawk
There's no official thing where it's only if the owners in the team decides to tell you what they're making.
Pat McAfee
Right.
AJ Hawk
Or the agent of the coach.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That's why whenever I saw five year, $100 million, I'm like, oh, they're reporting that Like a player.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, like a player.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That usually is not the case. Maybe that is Mara telling the other ownership, good luck. This is what we got to do. You got to do it too. Everybody's gonna have to pay it. If we know it, everybody's gonna know what the new comp is not a bad gig. Take that head coaching role. Getting $20 million. Not that Harbaugh obviously isn't set in his had been a very successful for a long time. And we assume he's got businesses.
Tone
So good business.
Pat McAfee
I don't know if he's with. With Jimmy's famous or not. That would be a good investment. Yeah, it would have been a good investment while he was there. Who knows if he's gone from that whole thing, but congrats to Harbaugh. Congrats to the Giants.
Con Man
Yeah. Need to get a camera on him. And Scatter Boo's first conversation. Not sure if Harbaugh is aware of what Scatter Boo's been up to. Need that. And then also the Giants are one of the most attractive jobs. Right. They got the quarterback and you get a top five pick. Like, could you imagine if John Harbaugh goes in there and he's like, okay, yeah, I'll take. Take Caleb Downs. And then they have some one of the better young cores in the entire NFL right off the bat.
AJ Hawk
D line, too. I think the D line definitely enticed him. He was excited about that D line and what they can do.
Pat McAfee
He has to hire an OC and a DC. Now, granted, there's a lot of OCs potentially available or any of them very great. I guess Harbaugh would have to decide that. There was a conversation, allegedly that he wanted to stick with Monken and not move on, but that was all when fodder was kind of out there to make. Make excuses for why a separation happened. We don't know what's real, what isn't real.
Tone
And there was a report last night. I can't remember which insider said it, but it was a legit one that said that they kind of expect Monkin to go with him to be the oc.
Pat McAfee
On your point. Kind of legit. Rapaport was the guy rap. Todd Monkin is among the assistants expected to join John Harbaugh. Okay, so there it is.
AJ Hawk
He didn't say coordinator, though. He didn't say to join as the coordinator.
Tone
Yeah, I think he's probably just going to be. He was getting assistant to the. That.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Tone
Weight room.
Pat McAfee
It was a, quote tweet about the offensive coordinator.
Ty Schmidt
He's already had an. He had an interview with the Browns for head coach, though. So I, I think it's safe to assume that if he's getting head coaching interviews that he's going to be going as the offensive coordinator.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Con Man
And we also now know with the Bishadi interview that, yeah, Harbaugh was gone no matter what.
AJ Hawk
There wasn't some sort of.
Con Man
There wasn't some sort of like, hey, you're not firing Monking or I'm gone. No. Harbo is getting fired.
AJ Hawk
We know now.
Pat McAfee
So that was complete another week. What an answer by Steve Bashad. I hope he does more press conferences.
Con Man
Need it.
Pat McAfee
I hope more things happen with him. Now, granted, the only time he has to speak is when things aren't going great, I guess.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Have to show face, you know.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Like ownership has to show face whenever things aren't going well. Hey, we got a whole new thing about to happen. I would like to let you know. You can entrust me with the decision we're going to make. And Steve Bischotti did it in his own way that makes us say we need more Bishotti.
Con Man
Love that guy.
Pat McAfee
And Bishotti's saying, I Don't want anybody to know I exist.
Con Man
No, he's ready to sell a team. He just needs to win a couple more Super Bowls.
Pat McAfee
Somebody sent me a quote from him from a previous interview. Somebody tweeted it to me, I believe, and obviously, who knows if it's real or not real, but it's certainly in the vein of something I think he would say. They say the only thing being better or better than being rich and famous is being rich. And they just walked off. That's an incredible quote.
Con Man
Legend.
Pat McAfee
That is an incredible quote. I don't know if he said it. Whoever did say that, I would like to let them know. That's an incredible bar. And if it was Bishotti, we need him on a microphone more. Yeah, we need. We need that to certainly happen. Other things happening around the NFL that we're learning about. The Mike Tomlin team meeting where he informed the boys that he was going to step down. I think we're starting to get a little bit more information from the scene in the room where it happened. Here's Christian Kuntz on the Christian Koontz podcast. A little bit more information on him. He's the long snapper for the Pittsburgh Steelers, has been since 2020. He is the all time leading tackler, I believe, for the Duquesne Dukes, which is a college within Pittsburgh. It literally sits on top of a hill on top of the Allegheny County Jail in the middle of downtown Pittsburgh. He went to high school at Shaw Valley, which is in Pittsburgh. This is Pittsburgh, kid. Basically playing for the Pittsburgh Steelers as a long snapper. Here's him talking about what Tomlin said to him and his kind of thoughts on what the message is coaching was. I don't know how much I'm allowed.
Con Man
You're really allowed to share, but I.
Pat McAfee
Will, you know, he didn't make a point that, you know, he didn't have.
Con Man
No desire to really coach any other football team. But the group of guys that he.
Pat McAfee
Was looking at, wow.
Con Man
With this group of guys. So he did say that to us.
Pat McAfee
Can things change?
Con Man
You could offer, you know, you know.
Pat McAfee
20 million to go to where he'll get whatever coaching job, like whatever he.
Con Man
Wants, whatever the hell he wants to.
Pat McAfee
Do, the dude's going to do.
Con Man
So but like, he did make a point to tell us, you know, in there that he was stepping down and he had no intentions on coaching any other guys. But the guys that he's looking at.
Pat McAfee
And the crew that he.
Con Man
Yeah. So, like, he had much, much respect and obviously, like, you know, guys like Cam Hayward are in there that have been. Been with him for 15 years. I knew there was been there nine years.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Adam Schefter
Did you guys have any anticipation that.
Pat McAfee
This was about to happen? Was there any sort of like energy?
Con Man
I'm telling you right now, there was. The only weird energy going on is when you lose.
Pat McAfee
Lose.
Con Man
It sucks. Garbage bags. Guys are clearing out their locker. Guys are trying to get out of town quick. Like guys are trying to get exit physicals. There was no weird, you know, feeling besides that we lost and everyone's pissed that season's over. And like, we were, we were just, we found out, you know, by the time we got out of the meeting.
Pat McAfee
And he had told us it was on. Yeah. So he kind of echoes the sentiment that we're hearing from the athletic reporter default. But who came out and reported that TJ Watt said numerous times while the message was being delivered. No, no, no, no, no. They said Joey Porter Jr. Got emotional and started almost hyperventilating and crying in the room while the message was being delivered. And then he reported that at the end of the meeting, as is such, you know, for the locker room after a game where, you know, Tom was there to greet just like Coach Ray believes or whatever. They did one last kind of to take the tractor another round where he was at the door and basically dapped up everybody as they won through. So whenever you talk about emotional meeting and an emotional time, it felt like they were right in the middle of all of that. A.J. and I don't know if you've talked to Aaron, but it sounds like the players in the room so locked in on everything that they were trying to accomplish this year, had no thoughts that this was what this meeting was going to be, which is, I guess now kind of crazy to think about. But that's literally what a locker room and a coach is supposed to do is keep his players so laser focused on something as opposed to all the outside noise. A.J.
AJ Hawk
Yeah. I've never, I don't know about you. I've never been like in a situation like that to where a coach has stepped down and told the whole team, like in a big team meeting that he wasn't. I know you had back and forth with Rich Rod when he thought he was going to go and he didn't and all of that situation. But it, I think the thing where it says one of the assistants claimed it felt like a funeral. That's what it feels like, a receiving line. Like Tomlin was at the, you know, at a funeral. Unfortunately, the, the family has to Stand at the casket and like have a receiving line when people come into the viewing. That's what this felt like when everyone was walking out. And obviously it's not a funeral. And Tomlin has, you know, led these guys for so long. But yeah, the fact that they are so like caught off guard is a little bit surprising. I guess maybe in their mind they thought, I don't know, maybe it's possible. But you know, it's. It's Mike T. He's not going anywhere. So I guess when it, when it was official to them, that probably made him. That's when it really hit home.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. 19 years, obviously a very long time. That's a building becoming an adult into its adulthood. Sophomore in college, you know, from literally birth of 19 years. So, you know, Rooney and the family and the Steelers building also probably pretty emotional. The players though, is very fascinating to me how, how they responded and obviously that bodes well for anybody who wonders about the type of coach that Tomlin was to these guys.
Tone
Yeah, I've talked to a few different people in different areas of the building. The entire building was. Was shocked and very, very bummed out. And what defabo wrote, a lot, a lot of people that I talked to, they said, yeah, it was kind of like a funeral in there. There was definitely tears a lot of them. No one blamed Mike Tomlin for the losses or whatever they've had this year. There was some talk about, you know, maybe they expected change with coordinators, but they never expected a change at the top. He's. Tomlins had a year left on his contract and all the players expected him to finish that out. So, yes, it was a shock to all of them. I think it was a shock to most of the building. And it just shows like, yes.
Ty Schmidt
The.
Tone
Wins and losses didn't go everyone's way that we wanted to the last few years, five, seven years or whatever. But I mean, the impact that he had on all of his players lives was. Was incredible.
Pat McAfee
Well, and also it felt like all Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh emotional, emotional bunch, blue collar bunch, you know, a lot of Italians, a lot of Irish people, a lot of emotional folks. You know, that ilk of individual. And it's like afterwards, it's like we are thankful for him though. Like everybody in Pittsburgh, I think has the same message, like, hey, we appreciate the hell out of what you did for Pittsburgh immediately afterwards. Day of, this guy needs to be gone. Okay, let's get this guy. The last four years, get this guy out of the fire. Tomlin Chance in the stadium happening from Pittsburgh people. And then as soon as it's announced that he stepped down, Pittsburgh people like, he did the right thing and we appreciate him for that. It does feel like there is not a lot of like, like negative juice from Pittsburgh to coach Tomlin at this moment at all. And it normally, it takes a couple years, right? Like, normally there's like a couple year transition period where they like hate a guy, let's move on, yada, yada, yada. And I'm not just directly talking about the Patriots and everything like that, but usually there is like a couple year turnover where it's like, yeah, we will look back and thank what he. James Franklin at Penn State would be a good one. Like, I think they will look at Green Bay, like a couple years where it takes a little bit to like, kind of respect and appreciate what it is feels like Pittsburgh is a place that like immediately upon it happening, they were like, thank you for what you did and thank you for what you have done. And I think they genuinely feel that way. And it sounds like the entire building, including the place players didn't want it to end, but also feel the exact same way. Everybody really grateful for Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. That's abnormal these days, I think, you know, for a coach, especially at a place for how long he's been in certainly a city like Pittsburgh, I think.
Con Man
Yeah. And it's kind of interesting seeing the, you know, correlation between Pittsburgh and Baltimore right now. They're kind of both going through that same thing where they were done with their legendary coach. It's just like putting an old dog down, you know, like you can see it coming and you know that it's the best move for your family. But on the day of putting the dog down, it's sad. It's going to bum you out and it might last a couple days, but, you know, three days later, one week later, all you're thinking about is the good times you had with Old Yeller, you know, with old Red. That's just part of getting rid of a legendary coach. But that is also the nice part of it. Like as a New England fan, it is nice being removed and a little different, but still it is nice being removed from the Bill era and then see seeing old clips, it's like, oh.
Pat McAfee
It was such a good time now. Red was the damnedest dog.
Tone
Yeah, it was.
Pat McAfee
That I had ever seen. You know what dog I'm talking about?
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah, I know.
Pat McAfee
Red. I mean, you couldn't get it. You couldn't escape Red.
Tone
No, his nose fast get to it.
Pat McAfee
But the thing that Red had was a hunger for love making.
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
Pat McAfee
And Blake took advantage of did. Yeah, he did. Blake took advantage One over to warden. Take that dog outside. A little blue takhan down the street this way. Keep him away for a few days. That's all.
Tone
Red, baby.
Pat McAfee
All of a sudden we're going boom. He's going Tennessee. You know, there's a chance that he's gone and see that you do think about the good times with dogs like Red.
Con Man
No matter what, especially not even on the day, you know. You know, 20 years from now, you're going to be thinking about old Red. No matter who, you know your current dog is, you're always going to have that, you know, moment, that moment, that comparison to the two. And maybe, maybe the new dog's better, but the old dog still has got some of those tricks.
Pat McAfee
Well, speaking of a new dog having to come into a lot of buildings, more specifically the Pittsburgh Steelers, one Steelers president, Art Rooney the second, said he and general manager Omar Khan will lead the Steelers head coach in search. Omar Khan was quoted as saying, I ain't telling you any of you anything. Yep, that is basically how he operates. He comes on our show. I think he likes us. He's told us that he likes us. He obviously knows the show. I feel like because we have Pittsburgh representation, people in Pittsburgh are forced to kind of know of our show. He's always. He's come on the show, though very rarely will give up anything. Very rarely. I mean, this guy plays cards close to his vest and he plays it very different than old Pittsburgh Steelers regime with Cole. Yes, he does his own thing. So I'll be excited to see what he looks for as opposed to what the old Pittsburgh Steelers would have looked for. Yeah, there's a chance he kind of writes his own kind of story with the Pittsburgh Steelers like he already has been doing over the last couple years.
Tone
Yes, obviously Omar is going to have a ton of say, but Art Rooney II is also going to be involved. And obviously he knew how his predecessors, his family has hired. He was actually the one who announced Tomlin as the hiring. And I think there's an early indication Chuck Noel was a DC, a young DC. Bill Cower was a young DC. Mike Tomlin was a young DC. Right now, so far, their interviews, they have six young DCs and then the one offensive guy in Nate Schielhaus, who is also young, but the oldest right now is Halfley. At 45, everyone is 45 or younger. Six DCs one OC they've requested.
Pat McAfee
We're looking for 20 years here. Who can be the 20 year coach? Isn't that what everybody's looking for, though?
AJ Hawk
Yep, that's a. That's why it's a huge hire. Because the Steelers have been able to do that and only have what, only have three coaches since what year?
Pat McAfee
69.
AJ Hawk
I mean, that's wild. There's so many franchise. Like, there's coaches. There's so much turnover. Yeah, you don't want to. If you're the Steelers, you don't want to start that cycle and get out of what you've had with all these, these. This consistent success with these coaches. Like you don't want to have a guy for two years and then all of a sudden. Yeah, once you get in that cycle, good luck getting out of it.
Pat McAfee
Well, I mean, Coach CR. Sorry, Ownership craft, you know. He just talked about it, did he not, about making the decision to move on Coach Mayo after one year. Year. Because they obviously had the same setup for a long time at GM and head coach. It was one person. It's kind of his world. We got great consistency here. Then they had to go to a new coach. And all he's thinking about is, I think this is going to be the next Belichick. We're hoping this is another 20 years, this guy leading the program, doing his thing. Instead, after one year, he has to move on. He knows that. Oh, no. Oh, no. We cannot become the place that is firing coaches before their contracts are up because then I'm going to have to start paying so many people. But also that means we're restarting and restarting and restarting. That was like one thing we were good at. So him making that decision to move on from Coach Mayo after one year, especially with the amount of people telling him, you can't be the place. What do you want to be? The Titans?
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Is that what you want? You start talking about places that have fired a lot of coaches. You want to be the Browns? Is that what you want to become? It's like that's like a cardinal sin, seemingly for NFL ownership at this point. So Kraft making that move was insane. Now, would the Rooneys be able to do the same if it happened in the same fashion? Who knows? But Kraft doing that was gigantic. I think for you guys especially, finding.
Con Man
The right guy, absolute legend, you could argue is probably the greatest move he's had since hiring Bill Belichick as the head coach and making him the GM and basically doing the same thing with Rabel it feels like the younger coaches are better for the more established culture. Places like Harbaugh, for instance. He's older coach, but he goes to the Giants where they haven't had a good winning culture. Tennessee was the other team that wanted them. They haven't really had that culture. So since Vrabel, like the Steelers and the Ravens and that's probably basically, you could argue the packers too. They could be places that could hire young guys and be comfortable. But there are some places that like, they might not even be looking for that cool young guy anymore. Like they're more looking for the Big Mike or the Harbaugh to bring in some sort of winning culture and then for that guy to maybe pass the baton to get the, you know, more young for 20 years coach a team.
Tone
That perfectly exemplifies that is the Raiders. They were so bad for so long and they were like, all right, let's bring in a proven head coach who can change the culture. They did with Pete Carroll. Obviously that didn't work. But I'm thinking like that's kind of the thinking that Connor's thinking of. That was an organization that needed culture first, then winning. There's some organizations that already have culture. So you can bring in a younger guy who could just win or whatever. You know what I mean?
Pat McAfee
Seattle, yeah. They have culture. Yeah. Schneider still there. Same gm still there. Is Shula going to end up anywhere but Miami?
Con Man
He better not. If you're the Miami Dolphins and you don't give Shula $30 million, cuz he's clearly the prince who was promised his bloodline is the one that made the Miami Dolphins the Miami Dolphins to begin with, then you're an absolute buffoon.
Pat McAfee
The bottles that are popping every single year during the NFL season are because of a Shula.
Con Man
Look at that. Shula's coaching tree, by the way. It's. It's pretty ridiculous.
Pat McAfee
So we would say maybe the family tree could potentially figure it out, especially if other people are going to hire him. Okay. If other people are saying this is a guy that we would like to hire multiple places saying we'd like to hire him, it would be a pretty Dolphins move to be like, not for us though. Now, gumpy, diehard Miami Dolphins fan, your thoughts on Shula potentially coming home to South Florida and making you guys a playoff contender, Maybe a Super bowl contender.
Tone
I've been banging the drum for Shula for a couple years now. We tried to get a in as D.C. and he did not come. Then we got Weaver instead. But we do Have a new gm. It's Sully from the packers and Halfley's in there. There is a thought that Sully could go for Halfley because of their time together with the Packers.
Ty Schmidt
Halfley is already the odds on favorite to be the next Dolphins head and.
Tone
Shula is the favorite to be the next Steelers coach.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so. And you know both defensive minds, obviously you do what you have to do. I like that you're calling the new GM Sully already. I assume he's appreciative. John Eric Sullivan, First GM high of the cycle is by the Miami Dolphins after firing Chris Greer, which Dolphins fans thought would never happen. Big decisions have to be made down there. What does your team look like? Chase as a whole. He's your quarterback, you name it. And speaking of Gumpy. Hey, good for you, buddy. You're back. He's been battling.
Con Man
Go. Gump is back finally.
Pat McAfee
Gumpy's been bad in the last couple of days. You know that vitamin C lackage. It seemed like he was not seeing up for a few.
AJ Hawk
Not seeing up.
Con Man
He was not seeing be consistent with the C. Some people say vitamin C. The C stands for. For consistency, actually.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that vitamin Consistency for the safety of you.
Con Man
Exactly.
Pat McAfee
I mean, that is. I. I feel like I see it up pretty consistently all season and I got it. I got it once or twice.
Con Man
It's inevitable, though. We know that.
Pat McAfee
We.
Con Man
We know no matter what. Especially for you with all the flying you do and the different. Like you're going from 30 degrees to 60 degrees, 70 degrees all the time. And that'll always get you. But the sea, I think also kind. You could say the sea also stands for transfer closes. It kind of closes the window of how long you'll be sick.
Pat McAfee
I. I think C has helped us this year. It's been a good tag team partner and we're very appreciative for the sea. Gumpy, let's make sure you're focusing on seat.
Tone
I have been seat up every morning I come in here before I hit the hawk house. I see up. I do fear that it was when I got back Saturday morning. I was. I knew it had hit me when we got back.
Pat McAfee
Oh, from Arizona to Atlanta.
Con Man
Yeah, that was.
Tone
That was when I got caught and.
Con Man
We got booze up, so that didn't help.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that beats down the immune system a little bit.
Con Man
I'll get you.
Pat McAfee
You got the. I don't want to you guys. You guys, but you guys ordering just the four shots. Can I just get little Jack on the rocks and then what Is it? It's literally just four shots of Jack poured into an air airplane glass with just ice it. It's like, that's a wild order. I appreciate and respect the fact that you guys do it, though. You're just ordering four shots today head basically immediately. I love it.
Ty Schmidt
Sometimes you gotta do that. Sometimes you are required to do that. It's almost like a law of the air. And it also doesn't help when. It also doesn't help when you hit some turbulence. And the flight attendant says, yeah, it's gonna be bumpy the entire way home. It's like, all right, just give me that bottle then. Because I'm not. I right now. I'm tired that I can't do this. Okay. I cannot handle this turbulence for the entire way home. So just give me that thing. I'm gonna drink the whole thing and I'm not gonna remember this.
Pat McAfee
It is crazy. Whenever we're bumping, when that thing gets.
Con Man
A rolling when you're in the back and you see the whole. The whole tube move when you're in the back.
Pat McAfee
When you're in back, it's so long.
Con Man
Yeah. You can see the whole thing and where it's going. It. It's not good.
Pat McAfee
It's not good.
Con Man
Really?
Ty Schmidt
Well, you got. You got a couple pies behind you. Those things are just sliding and going everywhere and falling off. And it's like, okay, well, well, hey. Luckily, this is only an hour and 20 minute flight. We can put up with this for another hour and ten minutes.
Pat McAfee
Good news as we head down to south Florida.
Ty Schmidt
That's a little bit longer.
Pat McAfee
That's a long one. We're lucky to do it. We're thankful to do it, and we're going to be trying to send two people to the big college game today. We gave away four tickets yesterday. AJ will give away two today. It was supposed to only be two yesterday. We didn't take account for the super geniuses that would guess ahead of time what the entire sentence was before AJ and JJ and Darius and AQ were giving away what the clues were. Some people guess it. So we picked 10 random or 10 winners from before the final clue being given and then the first 10 after the final clue were given and then we randomly selected from those two groups to give two tickets to one person each. So four tickets yesterday, two tickets today. Today's a good one. Age. I don't know if you've seen it. The PMS seatgeek, punch out age.
AJ Hawk
When's it happening? When is the punch out happening?
Pat McAfee
Here in about 10 minutes or so, 15 minutes. I think we're kind of counting down to when that's going to. We got a conversation with a great money man, a man who resides down in Miami now, coming up here in a matter of moments. And then immediately after, a conversation with the president of the University of Miami, Mr. Joe Echevarria. He will sign off. And then we will take the Thunderdome court and the toxic table will take two big hacks at said punching bag. The highest of the two scores will be calculated with each other. Other. And whoever can guess what that amount is. If there's 10 of them, we'll randomly select. If there's four of them, we'll randomly select one of the winners. And if nobody gets it right, we'll go up a point as opposed to Price is Right rules, which will go down a point. We're going up a point to find the winner. AJ Hawk.
AJ Hawk
I love this. I think it's a great idea. Like, I don't know what either. Are they competing to see who can get the highest number?
Pat McAfee
No, they've been really kind of.
AJ Hawk
Quiet.
Pat McAfee
Secret with quiet about strategy? No. Cuz I think these two guys just getting a view at them. There's a chance that they say, like.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, they're going to be saboteurs to the competition potentially.
Pat McAfee
I mean, there. There's so many different outcomes from these two. I mean, Boston Connor and Ty Schmidt. You also have to kind of get into their minds on what they're going to do to this thing. Maybe there's a backhand chop like Gunther. There could be.
AJ Hawk
You know, what if they do the cena, though? What if they do the cena from fnaf.
Pat McAfee
Exactly. So headbutt.
Con Man
I mean, look.
Pat McAfee
Yes.
Con Man
So who knows? Yeah. My legs might get up there.
Pat McAfee
Okay. And I've seen somebody catch it clean on a kick that's much more powerful than your arm would be.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Okay. And I think you'll definitely be able to get your foot up high enough to catch that thing clean and not miss it completely.
Con Man
Well, who knows if I'm gonna bring in a chair and I'm gonna jump off the chair.
Pat McAfee
Okay.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, we'll allow that.
Con Man
Spinning roundhouse perhaps, or flying knee off chin.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Okay. Okay. I like that.
AJ Hawk
Can't wait.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I mean, there's a chance that any of this is possible. So if you're able to guess what the two scores are after these two do whatever the hell they're going to do to the boxing punching bag, and you're one of the first 10 entries of that particular score. That's right. You'll be randomly selected. You could be randomly selected to win a pair of tickets. The big college game on Monday.
Ty Schmidt
Oh my God.
AJ Hawk
The big college game.
Con Man
Let's go.
Pat McAfee
The big college game.
Con Man
Bcg, baby.
Pat McAfee
Bcg or oi oi, oi in Miami. Oi, oi, oi. You know what we're talking about age.
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah, I know we'll be there.
Pat McAfee
Yes, we certainly will. Here's the two winners from yesterday. Congratulations to LA Beck 81. You have won a pair of tanks. Yeah.
AJ Hawk
What was it? What did it say? I don't remember. What did the whole thing even said.
Pat McAfee
Let's watch live football live from my Miami. Yeah, yeah. Let's watch football live from Miami. Congrats to LA Beck 81. From our research, it appeared as if LA Beck 81 was an Indiana fan. So it actually worked out. Split yesterday and quack dot seven two seven. Obviously a Miami fan. Congratulations. Yeah, boys, good luck down there. Two winners there yesterday as opposed to just one. Those ticket prices still very real, but obviously stayed stagnant and maybe even going down. Some people are projecting. We have a guest with us right now, but there is no audio.
Ty Schmidt
Sure.
Con Man
Difficulties.
Pat McAfee
That is a tough part of our show. If nobody can hear anything, you're kind of in trouble. Yeah.
Con Man
We dealt with it at the beginning.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. With Adam Schefter who has given us real journalism news and literally couldn't hear anything. And then obviously if our microphones are off, that's going to be tough. So we shall wait as we dive into new subject with AJ Hawk Commander's new stadium. Looks awesome. Did you see it?
AJ Hawk
Oh, yes. It looks amazing. Is it going to look just like that?
Pat McAfee
We would assume. Right. The renderings have been pretty accurate to what these people have been able to piece together as of late. I think Allegiant Stadium looked like what we thought it was going to look like. The Buffalo Bill Stadium is starting to look like what we thought it would look like. We think the renderings are much more accurate these days. And with modern technology you'd assume that they wouldn't be putting out graphics that don't look like what it's going to look like.
Ty Schmidt
But you.
Pat McAfee
Yes. Back to your point. This is what I think it's going to look like. Age.
AJ Hawk
Beautiful. This is amazing. I know. What's the river again? You guys talked about cleaning the poop.
Pat McAfee
Out of the Anasanja. And if you looked at Anacostia. Okay, yeah, yeah. Great fighter though.
AJ Hawk
Ufc. Great Fighter.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Well, also potentially maybe Good ad deal there for him. Changing name. I apologize. He's a fan of the Commander and of the Anacostia.
Con Man
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
But these are all parking garages here, you know, because not a lot of space in dc. So the parking space isn't massive parking lots. Let's go ahead and stack these things up. Classic building. I believe that is kind of downtown stuff. Whenever you don't have a lot of space, I like they put grass on top. Maybe there'll be little tailgate areas up there. Maybe people be able to do their stuff. Or maybe they just don't want it to look like ass. And then the build of the stadium as a whole, it when that thing's at night lit up with all the other lit up around there. That's going to be some beautiful shots, aj. I think optically it's going to be very, very impressive as they sailgate on the Anacostia.
AJ Hawk
Yeah. The sailgating is very intriguing proposition. I think that'll be fun. But so that whole. What is that root? It's all this is like glass, see through stuff. Like there might be some weird shadows. There's one o' clock game.
Con Man
I think they have the same thing as Sofi where they can actually put the LED stuff on the top of it when you're flying. So I don't think there will be any of that issue that AJ's talking about.
Pat McAfee
I love that with Sofi.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Now I don't know how many people really get to enjoy it, you know, next to none. It's just when you're on a plane.
Con Man
There'S thousands of flights.
Pat McAfee
I've seen at least an announcement for a game taking place later that night. Night from a plane. When I see it. Drone shots when it's doing something cool on top.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Those are always cool.
Pat McAfee
Pictures are cool.
Con Man
Yeah. When we flew in, they had the cool for the Super Bowl a few years ago and the national championship, they had a cool like, hey, big game, big games tonight.
Pat McAfee
And how about the sphere of being able to do what they do?
Con Man
That's game changer.
Pat McAfee
It's only a matter of time before there's a full stadium. Yeah.
Con Man
Need one of those. On the east Coast.
Pat McAfee
Elon Musk buys a football team. Look for Spear Stadium.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I'll go.
Pat McAfee
That would be outrageous.
Con Man
Be terrified.
Pat McAfee
Are you taking any state money for that? Absolutely not. Oh, yeah. I will own this thing completely. We'll actually have a rocket show at halftime.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Oh, that'll be awesome. If the sphere opens up. Oh, Rocket straight up and through. Second half begins now.
Ty Schmidt
That's a great idea.
Con Man
The whole thing. Every game's a home game. You fly that bitch everywhere.
Pat McAfee
Oh, they drop their dome on you.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. Wow. What's the weather? Oh, 70 and sunny. How do you know? Cuz, guess what's coming.
Con Man
The Space Stadium.
AJ Hawk
The future.
Pat McAfee
Oh, how many billions? 400 some.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
600 some.
Con Man
I think he's a 700.
Ty Schmidt
Oh my God.
Con Man
That was. That was the last I saw. And you never know what those numbers.
Pat McAfee
You know who.
AJ Hawk
Oh, okay. I think I meant the owner. I thought you're talking about the owner.
Pat McAfee
Of the Washington Commanders. Commanders. I don't know what Josh is.
Tone
726 as of currently estimated.
Pat McAfee
Elon Musk is that right there. So we would assume at some point he's going to just want to buy stuff. And what he could buy is everything with that amount of money and especially, you know, NFL team if it becomes available. We thought it would have already happened by now. We thought he and Bezos would potentially be competing for a new NFL team. But obviously, I guess, different interests. You know, Bezos shuts down all of Russia home.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
For his wedding.
Con Man
For three weeks.
Pat McAfee
Elon sleeping on the floor still. Bezos still doing. I mean, you know, they got different interests, I guess, but if they want to get into buying an NFL team, I do think these stadiums of the future are about to be outrageous. Just like this one is. This is beautiful.
Con Man
Yeah, gorgeous.
Pat McAfee
Some of them have gotten pretty boring, you know, and kind of repetitive. Some. A lot of buildings have. I think if we go into an architecture conversation as a whole, as somebody who gets to go see a lot of cities, a lot of cities starting to look the exact same or a lot of cities under construction just look like complete ass. So it feels like modern architecture is a little bit difficult to judge at the moment because it feels like we're in a little bit of a transition phase. Don't want to act like I know architecture, but this is just my $0.02 research as I've walked around. And then all the stadiums started looking like pretty similar. And then it's like this one just looks good and looks like it fits the city in which it is in. And it feels like it's an actual monument. So I appreciate that they kind of thought about that seemingly.
Con Man
Yeah. That's why I'm excited for these other stadiums like Cleveland. That's a place where, hey, very traditional, old school outdoor stadium. And now they're kind of changing. That's interesting. And Then Nashville, like Tennessee Stadium, I think isn't the round type. I think it is more boxy. Square. Yeah. Rectangle.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, yeah.
Con Man
Whatever it is. But shape of football field with the massive bar. I'm interested to see what they have in there. Like the whole thing for Vegas, newer stadium. The. The clubs. They have the sweet clubs where it's a whole entire, you know, California area. The whole nine yards. And then what are they going to do for theirs? The Nashville team? I think they're doing a hundred yard bar, very similar to Atlanta that has that huge bar underneath the stadium. Like, what's going to be their kind of little caveat? Hopefully it's just, you know, four plus four ply toilet paper and super, super nice stuff for poop.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. The Anacostia getting cleaned up. Good news. They're not having poop pipes bursting anymore. That's good news. Beautiful new stadium. That's good news. All eyes are now on the bison outside. The Buffalo Bill's new.
Con Man
I think. I think we know they gotta be.
AJ Hawk
Are they up yet? Like out at this, the stadium?
Pat McAfee
I do genuinely wonder if they are deciding to bring the bison in last. Like that's a conscious decision.
AJ Hawk
Like when they break a champagne bottle on a big ship or something, is that they place the bison there to let us know we are done. Here we go.
Pat McAfee
So what are they doing? The circus? They put one of these big tarps over an elephant, right? Yeah, they have like those big.
Con Man
It's in the big tent.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it's.
AJ Hawk
What do you mean?
Pat McAfee
They need to put. So if you have the bison out front, first of all, they need to block the building of that thing so nobody can get eyes on these things. Fly them in at night, but then fly them in at night laying them. And then have big tent or curtain, stage curtains. Oh, yeah.
AJ Hawk
And then boom, drop.
Pat McAfee
Drop off. Yeah, we need a big one with I think fireworks. Angel Pyro from smu and maybe Criss angel too. Maybe Criss Angel. Buffalo is dangling from the thing upside down getting out of a straightjacket.
Ty Schmidt
Sure.
Con Man
Move that bus.
Tone
Ty Pennington, can we incorporate live buffalo into this somehow?
AJ Hawk
That bus guy?
Pat McAfee
Only if we bring Ralphie from Colorado. Because like this current Ralphie is a little bit. A little bit more uncontrollable, Right?
Tone
Correct.
Pat McAfee
So we want a little bit of chaos if we're bringing a live bison. That's what you were promoting?
Tone
Yes, I want. So I like your idea of kind of look looking like a circus tent or your house is getting fumigated over.
Ty Schmidt
Over top.
Tone
Of the buffalo. Yes, But I want it to be glass. But like a safe glass. It's easily breakable. And then live buffalo run out and they break the glass. And then you. The three buffalo, the three bison are stand.
AJ Hawk
Okay.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, there's a chance that. That, that is perfect way to UN High Mark stadium.
Con Man
Thank you.
Pat McAfee
Travis Pastrana, though, also that would work too.
Con Man
Cool. Pula's riding.
Tone
If he's jumping a heavy bike, sure. Maybe not Rocket.
Ty Schmidt
Maybe you get Sal Kapagia to jump. Jump a heavy bike.
Pat McAfee
Rock.
Con Man
Well, yeah, he should be, but he's definitely doing that.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he's playing.
AJ Hawk
He's got a couple sets when I open.
Con Man
Yeah, yeah.
Pat McAfee
Fire, flames.
Tone
Maybe his solo hits so hard that it breaks the glass.
Pat McAfee
This has been all fill time to get to our guests that we haven't been able to figure out the audio with for 10 minutes.
AJ Hawk
They better have to chopper them in. They better need. They have to chopper these bison in. They're so big. I would hope so. You can't just put them on flatbed. They're too big for that now.
Pat McAfee
You know those oversized loads that kind of drive by that have 14 police around it.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Con Man
Almost got hit by one today.
Pat McAfee
Really?
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
You're on far lane. And they were coming into left three rotary.
Con Man
Oh, and I went inside track on a rotary roundabout. How people say them here.
AJ Hawk
What the hell is that?
Con Man
A rotary is what a roundabout is actually called. And so. Oh, it's like an east coast thing. Okay, I got you. No, it's not an east coast thing.
AJ Hawk
Taking a lot of pride in it.
Pat McAfee
That's.
Con Man
They built a rotation. They started rotary phone.
Pat McAfee
Bingo.
Con Man
Thank you. Yes, whatever. And so I'm on inside track.
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you what. These roundabouts, I don't know, it took so long to bring them into society. But out here in the Midwest where it's very flat, it is a pretty perfect thing to add. Building them. The process of them getting built sucks. The process of your entire community learning how the hell they operate sucks. But once everybody kind of gets what's going on, what a true play pleasure those rounded boats are. Honestly.
Con Man
See, look, you're. You're proven my point. They're not out here because they started up there and everyone's like, that's stupid. Just put a stop light or stop signing.
Pat McAfee
But actually, I think they're probably from Europe, if I had to guess, because they didn't have as much space. The middle of Paris is actually one big roundabout.
Con Man
The Arc de Triomphe. No, I don't Think they know about rotaries?
Pat McAfee
I think Ireland has some roundabouts.
Con Man
That's just a. Those are just big circle.
Pat McAfee
I assume. I assume England has.
Ty Schmidt
The autobahn is just that big, big circle.
Con Man
Well, if we're going to get into this, I mean we can go all the way back even before England. But what I'm saying is in America, where, Where Rotary. This country. In this country, it was New England and it was Massachusetts.
Pat McAfee
All right, joining us.
Con Man
They're called rotaries.
Pat McAfee
All right, sorry. We'll see what actually in the city where he's from, the Bronx, New York City. I don't know if they have a lot of rotaries around. Abouts can't because the buildings are everywhere. If you have space, it's obviously spectacular. Just joining. No, we just lost video. Just lost. You know, maybe we move this one to tomorrow. Yeah, good try. We appreciate him so much. We are so sorry and we apologize. Just know that Joe Echeverria, okay. The current president of the University of Miami and the University of Miami Health System Systems. A man who is in charge of 20,000 people, I do believe. 20,000 workers.
Con Man
Yep.
Pat McAfee
And a guy who is absolute dog. After getting a. A chance to chat with him and is the only reason why coach Crystal Ball said he got up and left Oregon to go back home. Feels like the visions are all aligned down there and it all starts with this guy. You know, this guy loves ball and has done amazing things for the U and also his business acumen is outrageous. So we're going to have him join us today. Thought it been a cool mogul conversation actually with him about the modern college football world and college sports world as a whole. But obviously technical difficulties just caused it to not happen happen. Speaking of technical difficulties, why don't you guys go show some technique. Come on, head out to the Thunderdome, boys. Figure out who in today's hashtag PMSC geek punch out pair of tickets. Now all day people have been guessing. Can you grab the handheld microphone over there? Yeah. And turn that thing on.
Tone
You guys stretch.
AJ Hawk
Because they're not getting. We don't know if they're gonna give a good faith effort in punching this.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so that is an interesting, you know, part of the entire story, AJ Hawk, is what type of effort level would these boys be giving for their punches. They will get two punches. We will be taking the higher of both of them. So if they were to sabotage and be saboteurs, we would obviously have to get their second punch read. But if they're going to sabotage on both, that'd be real commitment to the bit to do that. So we will have to put them on a spot. Ty Schmidt, would you like to punch first or second? Second. Okay and what are. Do you want to kind of reveal what your technique is or do you want us just to watch it?
Ty Schmidt
I'm just trying not to break my hand and or my wrist. That's really the only technique involved here.
Pat McAfee
Feels like he's not going to be swinging a hundo AJ with that particular stat. This is the hashtag PMSC Geek punch. O ticket giveaway. Ty Schmidt, who appears to be open palming the punching bag will be going first. Who knows what his technique will be. Former baseball player, former pitcher. I do believe he's obviously been in a scrap or two. Doesn't mind punching the game. Buster punching bag. Go ahead Ty. Good luck too by the way. Hope you don't break anything. Oh no lads. Oh no lads. Oh no lads. 163 Now Foxy, let's not show the final number for the second punch. I would assume it is going to run a little bit longer but what is happening here? Ty, if you could step aside for a second. This is a plastic piece right here. This is plastic. Plastic. There's a little bit of pad up here if you were to miss by a bunch but if you miss by that much there is a full on piece of really hard plastic right there. So Ty I think was trying to avoid that pretty heavily and boy you missed the whole damn thing.
Ty Schmidt
I did. If you wouldn't mind, let me run that back. Let's go ahead and just eliminate that one. Now I know what I need to do. I may have to sell out and may have to break my hand.
Pat McAfee
You want two punches again?
Ty Schmidt
I do.
Tone
That.
Ty Schmidt
That. Strike that from the record.
Pat McAfee
No, no, that was your first one. That's why we're doing two. Now granted if you are not aj who do you think should have to be satisfied with this particular punch for it to count as a punch? Would it be you, Ty? Us? Because he wants that first one not to count because he didn't.
AJ Hawk
I think Ty should get that back. That weird safety thing is kind of awkward so I. I'm okay with him having another shot at it.
Pat McAfee
Okay. Two more punches, two more actual punches. Connor, you also get a practice punch if you would like one whenever you Conor is turning down his practice punch. Okay. You will have two punches. Foxy, let's not show the final number because then people will be able to gain. Let's certainly watch that number run up as Ty Schmidt attempts to punch a bag here, either as hard as he can or close to her.
Ty Schmidt
I'm actually gonna hit it this time.
Pat McAfee
We shall see. I mean, that is the PMSgeek Punch out contest in a nutshell. We shall see.
Ty Schmidt
Boom.
Pat McAfee
Boom. Ty Schmidt, the number's running. Okay. Okay, Ty, would you like to punch it again, or would you like to keep that one?
AJ Hawk
We know it's over 700.
Pat McAfee
You're good at that one. Okay. Ty will remain at that one. So he did only do two punches. So back to the original rules. Boston, Connor, it is now your turn. We have the first score locked in. Let's reset that. I thought we were going every other.
Con Man
But I'll do.
Ty Schmidt
I'll get mine out of the way, and then Connor will get his out of the way. So, yes, I will go again.
Pat McAfee
Okay. All right. I didn't know if you want to get into a. A flow because it feels like you just connected with that one, and maybe you want to feel a little confidence.
Ty Schmidt
I just. I don't want that first one to be the lasting image in my brain.
Pat McAfee
It's going to be in ours. I think. I think that is kind of a part of the problem. But I understand you want to throw a heavy bomb. All right, if you would like to give it a go again, go ahead. We will take the higher of the two scores. First one, pretty good run up. Pretty good run up. Ty Schmidt out of Iowa. Boom. That one had a lot more thump in it. Jeez. Okay. That's a big number. Ty Schmidt. Ty, that feels good having that one on the books.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I'm proud of that one.
Pat McAfee
As you should be. Unbelievable stuff. Boston, Connor. Now, listen, it feels like the bag is ready to be punched with what Ty Schmidt just did.
Con Man
Yeah, big time. He warmed it up for me, and me and my son Z have been.
Pat McAfee
Punching prepared for this. All right, ladies and gentlemen, Con Man.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
We'll try to add on to Ty. Score. No run up. He's going to be doing a standstill bomb.
Con Man
We got to restart.
Pat McAfee
Okay. That is a good score. I think you should feel very proud of that number. If that was to be your number, I think you would feel good about it. We have ties locked in. Ty, you remember what yours is, right? I certainly do. I do. I do remember what yours is. Ty does not. Okay. That's what we just learned right there. Okay. And now, con man, you can only add on to it with the second one. We will only take your best punch. How'd you feel about your first one? No run up? No, nothing.
Con Man
Felt okay. Shoulder definitely moved a little bit there on the punch, so it hurts a lot right now.
Pat McAfee
Are you going southpaw? Maybe.
Con Man
Maybe go southpaw. Might go with the knuckles, but I think I'm just gonna have to unload on this one and hopefully, you know, feel something on this punch.
Pat McAfee
Okay, sounds good to everybody. Good luck with your shoulder and to you. Boom, boom, boom. Okay, so we officially have the numbers now. I will text it to the.
Tone
Good work, boys. Really proud of both of you.
Pat McAfee
I will text it to the back room and reset that real quick. Yep. Okay. That's a good idea. We had eyes on it in the back. Let's do the math. How do you boys feel after the big punches?
Ty Schmidt
The first one, you know, trying not to hit the thing, I think is not the best move. I think you kind of just gotta clear your mind and just hit it because, boy, I certainly did graze my wrist or something on that first one. And it's a little tendy. So if you're doing these at a bar, don't you. You just gotta. Don't think, just do.
Pat McAfee
Bill. Attabay.
AJ Hawk
Bill.
Pat McAfee
Way to get back into it. Way to go. Bill had to manage a lot of things there. I saw him also bounce around. That was his first button he hit. So it feels like he might be getting comfortable with the horsebacker. We appreciate you doing that, Bill. The. The first punch out of you happens.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
You know, especially with that plastic right there sitting, waiting to kind of just ruin your knuckles. Also, that's the first drive on a first tee right there.
Ty Schmidt
You're right.
Con Man
Breakfast ball.
Pat McAfee
Hey, your. Your first. That was. You brought some real thump to that thing. I'm pretty impressed by your numbers, both of you. Connor, no run up at all. No movement. Did see hardos at bars have those rules in place back in the day, but I would have personally, if I was to do that. I'm taking at least one step into that thing. Your number. Unbelievable.
Con Man
I'm all technique, you know, I wasn't going for power. I was just going for precision. You. You brought it up earlier in the show. And that's why I hit the nose on the head both times.
Pat McAfee
You boys certainly did not embarrass the program. Proud of you, boys.
Con Man
Thank you. It's all about you.
Pat McAfee
We will unveil the number and find the winners as we continue digitally. We'll see you tomorrow back here on espn. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. Goodbye. Okay, let's go to A break. Bruce will be able to find the winners.
Pete Thamel
Okay.
Pat McAfee
As we do that and announce tomorrow. Today. What's that?
Con Man
And that's tomorrow. Just let them know.
Pat McAfee
I think we let it know right now, don't you think?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, might as well.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think we let.
Ty Schmidt
I would assume someone hit the nail on the head, right?
Pat McAfee
I would think so. Because where you guys were, if you were to do some research, like, I wonder what AI Chat GPT would say. Hey, adult males, kind of athletic, not seemingly the weakest. What would be a good. I think if you were to search that it would give you a range. And then with the way you guys thumped it, I think it'll obviously be at the higher end of that range. But I assume it was kind of potentially gettable.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I would assume so too, guys.
Pat McAfee
Threw some bombs, dude.
Con Man
Yeah, try to.
Pat McAfee
Seriously, I think you should be proud of your number. No move, no run up. Aj, do you see that? He just sat there next to that thing. Hooked.
AJ Hawk
Yeah. I would have crow hopped into that sucker.
Pat McAfee
Exactly. You got at least get one step into that thing, you said. Nah.
Con Man
Jaw rotation. Like I said. Sensei fucking taught me exactly what to do.
Pat McAfee
Taught you well, your sensei did. Well, I. I was at a Buffalo Wild Wings. I had one of these with Tommy Zibakowski. Yeah, it was awesome. Because I'm obviously, I have seen my way around one of those before. Okay. I have. I have delivered new number in bars before. Okay. It is a fun time to do that. Friends of mine have more fun with it than I do. That makes sense because normally hand as ends up in bad spot because it's a shitty bag in the bar. So it does the entire thing. But like Zibakowski just standing there. All right, we're gonna go south. Ball bang. Perfect form through the thing, runs up, then it goes to the other side. All right, we're gonna poof right through there. And then like jab. Boom. Perfect right through it. It's like watching a professional punch thrower hit one of those things. It was like, holy. There is levels to this. Because I'm just. Hey, heads up. Coming in as hard as right? Exactly.
AJ Hawk
That thing works, though. You catch somebody, they're out.
Pat McAfee
Here's Conor's punch. No movement. Wearing the Campbell jersey. No relation to Will, but certainly relation to power. Let that thing run.
Con Man
I think I broke it.
Ty Schmidt
You might have.
AJ Hawk
Did you.
Pat McAfee
Do you have Ty Schmidt second one? Oh, your second one was the thump, right? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Your third one. I'm sorry. Well, no, no, sorry. Second.
Ty Schmidt
I was going to say, yeah, that one didn't count.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we dumped the first.
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
Tone
Stricken from the records.
AJ Hawk
What's the highest anyone's ever seen him do?
Pat McAfee
You know?
AJ Hawk
Like what has anyone ever witnessed?
Pat McAfee
Has somebody broke it? I wonder? I don't know. I do know they're not. Wonder they're not all scaled the same.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I figured that.
Pat McAfee
You know, like, you see some punches that go big and it's like. Then you'll see other places where it doesn't go as high. It's like, oh, are they like trying to say that we're like the real one over on here? You know, I appreciate that this particular establishment said we don't just hand out nine hundreds around here. We don't just hand them out around here. 900's gotta be Tommy Zabakowski. You gotta come in here and be mine. Yeah, like that. Exactly. Did he get 900?
Con Man
So I've never seen anything over 999. I've never seen a thousand.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think some of them are. The scale is.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I feel like I've seen some big guys blast it and get like 3:50. Yeah.
Con Man
McGregor, I remember a video of McGregor doing and he got like 995. Like he didn't even get the highest. It's like, okay, well, come on.
Pat McAfee
I mean, we need to get. Who is the person right now?
AJ Hawk
Prime Mike Tyson.
Pat McAfee
We need Anthony Joshua, I guess. But he's.
Con Man
He's retired. I would wonder, like just.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's sad story, by the way.
Ty Schmidt
Very.
Pat McAfee
Especially with where he was, was how he was talking, how I became a fan after that entire thing. And then all of a sudden catastrophe. Crazy happens out of nowhere. That's. That is sad for that. Who would it be?
Con Man
I guess Fury.
Pat McAfee
What's Jake Paul hitting? I think I bet you Jake Paul probably up there.
Con Man
Probably way.
Pat McAfee
I'm not saying he's the heaviest hands. I'm just saying he would.
Ty Schmidt
CM Punk, maybe.
Con Man
Punk, yeah.
AJ Hawk
Chuck Lidell. Chuck was at the end. Chuck Liddell, Jay Glazer.
Pat McAfee
I guess if we're really. Yeah.
AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah. Glaze.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Let's get to it. Right. Here's Ty Schmidt's second. Thump Thump City.
Tone
Just solid.
Pat McAfee
Caught it pure. You could feel it go. Go around the hand.
Con Man
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
Pat McAfee
It slung. Shot off your hands.
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
Pat McAfee
You felt that?
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
Con Man
Smooth.
Pat McAfee
Good for you.
Ty Schmidt
Thank you.
Pat McAfee
A real coming of age tale. Ty Schmit's punch was from one to three. You could say that.
Tone
That's. Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
If you're in. If you're in a fight, you're not going to think. I'm not Sherlock Holmes. I. I'm not looking at the telemetry of this guy's face and thinking, where am I going to hit him in order to, you know, inflict the most amount of punishment, you're just going to sock the guy, you know, and that, that was my mistake on my, on my first attempt.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you punch him right in the throat.
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
Con Man
Which also smart. Yeah, it's a very good spot.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Coming down on it too.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
Pat McAfee
I mean, you're coming right.
AJ Hawk
How bad that hurt? Right.
Con Man
You're at him. Swallow that one. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
That's the easiest place to hit too, you know, because the head moves. Sternum still staying the same. Punch right to the sternum. Not a bad eye. Overhand right to the sternum.
Con Man
Fight's over.
AJ Hawk
Bam.
Con Man
All of a sudden that guy's. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Cave chest, actually.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Oh, how you gonna fight now?
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
So I thought, boom.
Ty Schmidt
Take a bite out of their own app. Adam's apple. Instant death.
Tone
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Oh, I didn't know that was a kill shot.
Con Man
Instant death.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
AJ Hawk
It looked like it had instant death.
Con Man
It is.
Pat McAfee
Need to get you in that Oculus. The Oculus has one of those in the training room, obviously. Training. Any boxer arenas you travel around, you win championships in the training area. They have sensors on a full body thing and it's like boom, bang, bang, boom. Like there's a spot here obviously. And it's like judging where you're hitting. It's like, oh, this is what these boxers do all the time. That's why they are just like lethal weapons everywhere. Cuz a punch. We're watching it now in public. A lot of people fighting and a lot of people just eating punches right now.
Ty Schmidt
Oh yeah.
Pat McAfee
In public there's people eating punches. And those boxers, they're, they're, there's like little buttons.
Ty Schmidt
There's buttons everywhere that they're just. Yeah.
Tone
What you're describing. Mori Tanaka built in three ninjas. It was a strike striking robot. Exact same thing. Light up the eyes.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, let's light up the eye.
AJ Hawk
It was time.
Pat McAfee
Well, that's why you go. Ninja go. Ninja go.
Tone
Yes.
Pat McAfee
That's why you do. Is that the same.
Ty Schmidt
No, it's not. It's close enough.
Pat McAfee
They're both ninjas.
AJ Hawk
I thought it was.
Pat McAfee
I didn't know. Yeah. I thought there's four Beverly Hills. One's my favorite.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
AJ Hawk
It's a great movie.
Pat McAfee
Great movie. See you and I have not seen those other ones, but we certainly. As soon as I mentioned that Chris Farley on the back of a gate.
AJ Hawk
My kids ask to watch it like every two weeks. They want to watch. They watch it. He's amazing.
Pat McAfee
Not enough Chris Farley.
Ty Schmidt
Top shelf. Will Sasso in that as well.
Pat McAfee
Oh.
Con Man
Quick break.
Pat McAfee
Let's talk defense. Football's on your screen, but peace of.
Tone
Mind starts at home.
Con Man
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Tone
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Pat McAfee
Two year battery life and sync module xr so you can cover more space without constant maintenance. No wires, no fumbles.
Con Man
Just easy coverage that works in the background.
Tone
You've got your team on the field now.
Con Man
Get your defense at home. Get blink today at the Home Depot.
Pat McAfee
How doers get more done. Oh, such a clutch off season pickup, Dave. I was worried we'd bring back the same team.
Ty Schmidt
I meant Those blackout motorized shades.
Tone
Lines.com made it crazy affordable to replace our old blinds.
Ty Schmidt
Hard to install.
Tone
No, it's easy. I installed these and then got some for my mom. She talked to a design consultant for.
Pat McAfee
Free and scheduled a professional measure and install hall of fame son.
Tone
They're the number one online retailer of custom window coverings in the world.
Con Man
Blinds.com is the goat.
Ty Schmidt
Visit blinds.com now for up to 45 off site wide, plus a free professional measure.
Pat McAfee
Rules and restrictions apply. Football is magical. That's AJ Hawk the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and Hatai Schmidt. Boys, how do the hands feel?
Ty Schmidt
Feel great.
Con Man
Yeah. Yeah. All good. Losing up.
Pat McAfee
You guys proud of the number you put up?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Con Man
Satisfied?
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Satisf.
Pat McAfee
Not proud.
Con Man
Not proud by chance, but satisfied.
Pat McAfee
It'll be time right now, I think, to let the world know what your numbers were. Aj, if you had to guess what Ty's highest score was, what would you think it was?
Con Man
Oh, he's muted.
Pat McAfee
Oh, he's muted.
AJ Hawk
Uhoh.
Pat McAfee
There it is.
Con Man
There it is.
AJ Hawk
875, I would say, if I had to guess. Ty. Score.
Pat McAfee
875. Okay. I respect and appreciate that 854 is what Ty hit on his third punch, technically, but in his mind, second punch actually for the contest. Right, Ty?
Ty Schmidt
That is correct.
Pete Thamel
Yes.
Pat McAfee
854. High score for you.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I'm. Yeah, I'm. I'm good with that. I'd take that at any one of these deals at any bar.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I. I think you should. And then for no steps at all, Boston. Connor, what do you think he threw? AJ?
AJ Hawk
884.
Pat McAfee
Okay. You think that one was higher than ties?
AJ Hawk
I think it's possible, yeah.
Pat McAfee
793. Oh, almost cracked. 800. The no movement. I think I've always seen a good punishment from the boxing thing. Gods, you know, if you're not going to take a little bit of a step into this thing, we cannot reward you as much.
Con Man
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
But I also think there is an inertia e equals mc squared thing that comes into it. 793 no steps. Unbelievable throw out of you. Are you happy or not happy?
Con Man
I wouldn't say I'm happy or not happy. I think I'm content with it but wanting more. I can't wait to get back on the bag.
Pat McAfee
That makes 1,647 for a combined score. Of the two highest punches from Ty and Con Man. There were people that got it right and we obviously were able to find them. We are making a graphic right now to announce who won the pair of tickets to the big college game on Monday. And that will obviously catch cap off a massive football weekend. Divisional round. Two games on Saturday, two games on Sunday. Age. Which one of the four happening over the weekend are you most zeked up about at this stage?
AJ Hawk
I mean, it's tough to pick just one, but okay, I'll pick two. The. The Bills and the Broncos right there. I want to see if Josh Allen can continue his brilliance against his Broncos D in that Rams Bears game. Game, man. Like, I want to see what the weather's like. I want to see how they handle it and I want to see, you know, if the Bears can figure out a way to, you know, continue the. The magic they have had lately.
Pat McAfee
Do the packers fans have a lot of okay, we'll see to the Bears. Is that kind of what this is? Are you guys actually excited to see what the Bears are about to be in the NFC north for the foreseeable future?
Ty Schmidt
No.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Ty Schmidt
I mean, I think they're legit. You know, it's like they. They won. Their record is good. You can only do that for so long until you're just a. And you're just, you know, being a salty rival. Like, yeah, they've won a lot of close games, but there's a reason they win those close games. And I'll just be interested because I don't know. I don't know if they can do the exact same formula they did last week. I think if they spot, if they have to score 25 points in the fourth quarter, I don't know if they can beat the Rams that way.
Pat McAfee
Texans Patriots also happening on Sunday. Con Man, I see in the Campbell jersey obviously representing. I assume you're going to have your Nike tech on.
Con Man
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
Because that's your classic playoff outfit. As we go into a weekend, of course, last day before the weekend before the game, your thoughts on what it's going to take at this moment to beat the this Texans team?
Con Man
I think it's just going to take being able to run the football. Like if you can hold on and actually get yardage against that defense while keeping CJ off the field, especially with it being a very, very cold game, possibly having some snow flurries throughout the game, I think that'll be enough. I would say Drake has to play perfect just to have a chance. But again, if we can run with Ramondre, with Trevillon and be able to kind of just do our normal defensive thing, I don't think we need to do anything kind of crazy on defense. It's looking like right now Nico Collins is not going to be playing for the Houston Texans, which is huge. Gonzo practiced yesterday. He is in the last stage of the concussion protocol, so I feel very good about that matchup. But the biggest thing will be running the football.
Pat McAfee
You talk about Nico Collins potentially not playing. Concussion protocol has been what it has been since the modern day. Concussion knowledge has been. If he was to play this weekend, that would be a massive thing for us. I think his brain being able to bounce back, but also in general being able to maybe play the next week. If you're diagnosed with a concussion and him being out, obviously a big difference maker. Fred Warner being out The San Francisco 49ers lineup kind of led us to believe that the Niners were dead. This guy's way too important to their football team. Alongside Bosa not being able to play, there's no way this team's going to be able to go on a run. Well, they did. Playing for the number one seed in week 18 against a team they're meeting now in the divisional round, The San Francisco 49ers and the Seattle Seahawks. Conversation around Fred Warner. Fred Warner, very positive, optimistic. I think he has to remain that way. Conversation from other people is like, maybe not this week, maybe next week. We got some tape on Fred Warner running around the practice field. A.J. your thoughts? Because he seems to be skipping pretty good. And then when he hits the sled, we don't know if it's the distraction from the person walking to his left or if it's the actual rep. You know, that's a. That's interesting. That was the running back, obviously. You shed a blocker, get to the running back there. But. But the way he hit that and lifted his leg, I Think we're all kind of worried about, right? Aren't we, aj?
Con Man
Yeah, a little bit.
AJ Hawk
It looks a little. Little awkward, but you see how, like, how bouncy he is. Like, this is a guy that's coming back that, you know, has been off the football field for a long time. So it's good to see that. But I don't. Yeah, it would be crazy if he's out there playing this weekend.
Pat McAfee
He looks jovial.
Tone
Yes.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
AJ Hawk
Looks great. Looks like a guy that gets to play football again that has taken away from him for the last three or four months.
Pat McAfee
And a guy who loves ball. You know, there's some people that get away from game and say, you know what? I'm good with it, actually not being in my life. And then there's some people like Fred. We've watched him. I think he was on the sideline. I think he was on camera. I think there was multiple times where he was trying to get back. And obviously everything he said is, I'm playing. He's striding out pretty good right there. Yeah.
AJ Hawk
I mean, that's what mine will be fine. Straight line, I think will be okay. I would just stopping and starting and all of that change in direction when you have something like that. It was his ankle, wasn't it?
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Con Man
Yep.
AJ Hawk
And it was pretty serious. So, yeah, that's the only thing I would worry about. We're being, like, engaged with a block with your foot in the ground, your feet in the ground. Like, those are all the little things that you got to figure out if you can do.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. San Francisco takes on the Seattle Seahawks. We'll see the 12 in prime time in the divisional round. Number one, overall seed Seattle Seahawks favored by seven. Tone, where's the money sitting and why is it sitting like that, you think?
Tone
Yeah. So they've already played twice this year, obviously, being divisional opponents, Seahawks being minus seven. Niners won the first meeting, 17 13. And then if you remember, in week 18 13, three, the Seahawks won. They've. It's been two close games. It's been two games that have gone under both times. So that's something to look at. As of right now. The percentage for the. Let me see here. Let me make sure I get it right. Is 73% on the Niners at plus seven.
Pat McAfee
Fascinating. Fascinating.
AJ Hawk
Seven feels like a lot to me.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's the visual game.
Con Man
That's right.
Pat McAfee
That's a lot of points. Points. That's a lot of points for divisional game.
Con Man
And Kittle being out is huge. But Tongus has played like their backup tight end, Jake Tungus. And he's been. He's done well. I think it was during the Mac Jones time when he was playing quarterback, not with Purdy, so it'll be interesting to see that. But still, solid backup home field advantage.
Pat McAfee
Is real in Seattle. Can't wait to see how that kind of affects the entirety of the game. Obviously, the Niners players are very used to it. I got a chance to see the Niners play the Seattle Seahawks in Seattle. That place was loud and obviously, obviously, they were able to handle it. Denver, you know, at altitude 5280ft, exactly one mile above sea level. Orange Crush, I believe, is what their fan base is known as. I've always enjoyed playing out there. It always felt like you were playing in a very awesome place. Sean Payton's talking to the crowd saying, hey, I think we got a little bit of a misunderstanding going on, on when we need the noise. And I'd like to correct that this weekend once and for all. For years, we were conditioned to raise the noise level when they broke the huddle. The noise level needs to be loudest when they enter the huddle. And. And then. Can you do that? Hey, can we do that collectively for 120?
AJ Hawk
No, I don't need.
Pat McAfee
I just need it for half the.
Con Man
Snaps in the game, right?
Pat McAfee
So say 65 snaps of 10 seconds, that can. That's a huge advantage. He's coaching up the fans right now.
AJ Hawk
Hey, I see 10 seconds longer, right? 10 seconds longer than normal.
Pat McAfee
I think he's just saying if we can just get him in the huddle, we don't have to worry about anything else. You guys are thinking about everything but the huddle. All I'm saying is only worry about when they're in the huddle, okay? We don't have as many guys now. Josh Allen in the huddle at the line of scrimmage. We think he'll be able to maybe make some plays and maybe audible will change some things up. Josh Allen, obviously, obviously NFL mvp, but I think Sean Payton was trying to make a point. Like, we have it backwards here. If you want to be quiet during a time while the play's happening, go ahead and be quiet. We need you in the huddle, okay? And then he was doing the math in his head because I assume he tells the players, I need this for 120 plays. I need you to just kind of lock in. Don't look at scoreboard. 120 plays, and we'll see where we're at at the end. Of that. So he was getting into coach speak to the fans right there. He was like, can I get that for 100? Well, I guess. Naughty 100. Hold on.
Con Man
Yeah, easier.
Pat McAfee
It's even easier than 120. Got to get it for 60, 65 plays, 10 seconds. I need you to ruin their huddle for you. I like he's doing this. This is very good. A ball as a whole, not just in Denver, I think.
Con Man
Yeah. Michael Thomas, quote, tweeted a tweet about Sean Payton's coach speak. And he said that there's a photo of the super bowl trophy with all the money that you could make from the playoff checks throughout the entire playoffs. And I guess it's a true story in New Orleans. He basically wheeled this out in front of the entire team. I don't know if we can find the tweet. Michael Thomas tweeted it out, but he wheeled it out in front of the entire team, basically said like, hey, you want this? You want legacy, you want everything forever. Win three games and you get all this money, you get this super bowl trophy. Not including the parade in the entire thing. Like, he does seem to be one of the best motivators. And if I'm Denver, if I'm the fan base, like, I'm excited to watch the game now and then listen for when they are in the huddle, more so than when they're actually on.
Pat McAfee
Here's the tweet right here that you actually called for. And it was he, quote, tweeted a tweet from Broncos for six. Sean Payton once brought this into the Saints locker room and said, y' all want this? Win three fucking games. Okay? Is this what you want? Is this what we're looking for? Yeah. Three games. Sean Payton loves the playoffs, obviously a man who has had massive success. Also a play coach who has been traded for a number one overall pick and a second round pick. Is that what we're staring down in the future with Coach Tomlin? Is what everybody's asking now if he's not going to get into coaching this year? Year. Harbaugh getting 20 mil a year, allegedly being reported, is that going to sway some other stuff happening? But Sean Payton's a guy that obviously the entire world respects as a football coach. And Sean McDermott is a guy that if he doesn't want a Super bowl soon, people will just refuse to compliment him ever. You know, everything is like, good. Josh Allen's the reason why this is all happening, not because of the coach. And I assume he doesn't necessarily Think that's fair, but I know he doesn't care, but he has to win or it's going to get loud. With Coach McDermott always in box Buffalo, it seems.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. And if he were to win this year, you could argue that it'd be. He has done more with less. I mean, obviously Josh Allen is who he is, but, man, what do they have, like, three healthy receivers playing on Sunday? Like, they just. So many injuries and they've withstood everything. And then if they were to, you know, go on the road and win these three games, like, I think you could probably put the bed. You know, obviously his job security would be good. But what they have continued to do with maybe not one of the better teams that they've had in the Josh Allen era. I'm. I'm very, very excited to watch that game.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I like the Buffalo. I could not believe that was the moment right there, I think in that drive when it was taking place where I was like, what am I doing, dude? I picked the Jags, and I was even questioning people. They were telling me that the Bills. I was like, dan, I'll ask you where the. Do you know, dude, this Jackson's unbelievable. I saw him against Colts, Colts, a little different than Josh Allen led Buffalo.
Ty Schmidt
Bill a little bit.
Pat McAfee
What was the big pop right there out of your mouth?
Ty Schmidt
Because you're right, you know, but you do get kind of lulled into that when you see him live in person. I mean, you're so saying, is Josh Hines Allen the biggest guy in the NFL? Yeah, I think he is like that. That can sway you.
Pat McAfee
How do his knees keep up with his size is what I wonder. With Josh Hines Allen, how is anybody going to beat this? And then you're watching the game unfold. It's like, I forgot we were putting an eye on the second L. Yeah. For Josh Allen.
Tone
I was watching him warm up. He's a. He's a strapping young lad as well. Like, without his pads, his. His bad back.
Pat McAfee
Josh Allen.
Tone
Yeah, yeah.
Pat McAfee
And he runs people over. And then this whole thing, people getting upset about it. It's like, look at their team. Their team chemistry is outrageous. Like, if your offensive line and your quarterback is getting picked up and dragged 12 yards, that's a team chemistry indicator right there. Hey, everybody is willing to sacrifice for this squad, and we've obviously learned that. And James Cook being the best back in the game behind Josh Allen. And then you talk about the wide receivers, everybody being hurt. It's like, they make do. Figure it out. Brady's going to be up for some head coaching jobs, especially with how cool his fate is. Whenever he sits down an interview or his picture gets out in the city, they're going to be like, yeah, we definitely want a young, cool, innovative offensive coordinator. It's like so much can happen as Buffalo Bills team. They could lose this game and everybody's going to be calling for everything to change. They could win it all and everybody's going to say this is the greatest team win in the history of sports. And then all their coordinators are going to get plucked for head coaching jobs. It's like such an interesting dynamic on where the Bills could go.
Con Man
Well, it's sweet too because I think Curtis Samuel, one of their wide receivers, got activated. I think she mentioned an Ed Oliver at Oliver, one of their highest paid players this game. And just the entire thing just kind of reinforced like, hey, if you don't have one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL, it's going to come back and get you. Like, if you don't have one of those top five guys like Josh Allen, you will end up playing one of them and then inevitably he's going to run over and dance on your face. Also, Bill's winning would be massive motivation for Houston and New England winner host the AFC championship. The Texans have yet to host a game. Obviously they played at Pittsburgh. They're a wild card team. If they beat New England or if New England beats them, they then, you know, get to host the AFC championship game against the Bills. Imagine that, home field advantage. You know, we already saw the Bills go to Houston and New England and.
Pat McAfee
They came back Houston with that defense, with that crowd. That should be illegal.
AJ Hawk
Yep, I agree.
Pat McAfee
Seattle, I guess. Same thing. Yeah, yeah, we're about to watch that. Football's about to be great. And then the big college game happening on Monday. Ladies and gentlemen, we have the winner. We picked the from the first 10 people to get the right answer. The combined power scores and then we randomized, used an AI randomizer out of those 10 to find one lucky winner. Congratulations to Colts fan Caden56. Congratulations. Obviously a massive amount of Indiana people trying to win these tickets as are Miami Hurricanes fans. One Miami Hurricanes winner from yesterday. Two Indiana Hoosier seemingly fans over the last two days in our three giveaways thus far. We'll have another one tomorrow. Ty with an 854 command with a 793 total is 1647. You do the math. And Colts fan Caden was one of the first ten people who got that right on X using the hashtag pmsc geek. Punch out randomizer out of the first 10. He wins. Congrats. Enjoy the hell out of Miami down there for the big college game. Travel and hotel not included.
AJ Hawk
Figure that out yourself.
Ty Schmidt
Good luck.
Pat McAfee
And also, when you get down there, the traffic's crazy. Plan accordingly.
Con Man
Yes.
Pat McAfee
Wherever you're staying, whatever you're doing, it's going to take a long time to get it to wherever you're headed.
AJ Hawk
Right.
Pat McAfee
That's just inside information. I can't wait to get down there for that game. It's going to be was and pumped.
Con Man
All these games. I mean, starting on Saturday, it's going to be Boston Tilton.
Pat McAfee
Isn't that crazy? The text from the people that aren't in the football world about how much football they consumed last weekend. Super wild card weekend. Leading Thursday semifinal, Friday semifinal. Super wild card. Super wild card. Super wild card. Like, it feels like it's just been like four. Has it been four or five straight days of just football, football, football. In all the games were so good. And I assume the numbers will be outrageous for what just happened during super wild card weekend. With the, the amount of people watching the divisional round. Two on Saturday, they're going to be bangers. Two on Sunday, they're going to be bangers. They're about to do it again. Congratulations to football fans. We're in it right now. Good ball. All over the place. Ty Schmidt.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I mean, I can't wait, you know, I mean, even not having a dog in the fight. And the times, the start times are also so absolutely perfect. You know, a couple of those last weekend where it's like, okay, hey, you know, I'm, I've been waiting here, let's fucking move this game up or let's start earlier in the day. All these start times ensure that you're not going to be too sleepy when you're watching the games.
Pat McAfee
Jimmy Train is reporting the wild card ratings. 28 million for Rams, Panthers 31.6 for packers, bears 32.7. Bills, Jags 41 million Niners, Eagles and then Chargers Patriots on NBC 28.9. And I don't know a single person that wasn't watching them. So those 28 million people include everybody in my world that aren't even in the ball world. I couldn't tell you somebody in my life that did not watch one of these games. And boy, it's great to have it that way. Coach Rich Rodriguez is calling me right now wondering if we're trying to sign.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Tone
Believe they.
Pat McAfee
What's going on, Coach Rod, we, we're doing some magic.
AJ Hawk
Workouts.
Tone
I think they brought in.
Ty Schmidt
Don't mute his mic, Bill.
Pat McAfee
Go ahead. What'd you say?
Tone
I think they, I, I heard a stat earlier today, like they have brought in maybe more people than you have scholarships for. Like they've brought in an absurd amount of human beings.
Con Man
I think we know what he's calling for then.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think we certainly would understand what the potential call is about. Or maybe it's just, hey, your thoughts on this? Or hey, we're thinking about doing this, or hey, will you be a part of this? You know, a lot of those potential conversations in this particular aspect. But yeah, I think what, what you're seeing with those numbers is Rich Rodriguez looking at a locker room and saying a lot of this locker room solved. Yeah, we fucking want hard edge motherfuckers in here. That is like kind of his only expectation is we need hard ass dudes in here. So the amount of turnover that's about to happen in that row roster I assume is gigantic. And there's quotes, you know, floating around and I get screenshot them and send them to me. And I'll tell you, Facebook is a crazy place. I'm not over there a lot, but Facebook announced that my wife and I had our kid. You know, I started getting a bunch of text messages. Those numbers, they do big numbers as well. Facebook has obviously put quotes in my mouth that I've never said that people believe in those huge numbers. I think Facebook is a little bit of a farm for far fetched things certainly, but potentially believable, you know, so it's like an interesting, Facebook's an interesting dynamic. Not saying that's bad. I don't really do the Facebook much, but I do think the, my mom is on there a lot other people and they see things, screenshots, send them to me and it's like, oh, that's not true at all. And then you look at the number, it's like, whoa.
Ty Schmidt
A lot of comments, a lot of.
Pat McAfee
People have seen it. It's like, wow. A lot of people are probably changing the way they view about things. Not just me, which I have extreme experience personally here. And the amount of text messages I got for congratulations on a baby, my wife, which I'm thankful for the congrats if you thought we had a baby, it's very kind of you, but we have not. That's just not real. And then it's huge, you know, in its entirety. But like there's, there's a couple over there that get sent over. I forget where I was headed. We did not have our baby though, that I should I reminded myself do not to make that announcement. I, I, I'm thankful we're here. My wife and I thank you to every. I can't respond. I got like 50 text messages congratulating me on new baby. And I was like, did we. What happened?
Ty Schmidt
The hell's going on?
Pat McAfee
What?
AJ Hawk
Sam. There's something I don't know. Sam. Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So there was a screenshot from one of my West Virginia teammates. It's a big group text popping off right now of the West Virginia alum. There's a screenshot of something on Facebook sent into either that group or a texted to me directly that said one of the X players said we. It was like it wasn't any fun. It was like too hard. Like all the practices were. There was no fun. It was too hard. Somebody that was transferring out. Now that is believable, but I don't know if it's an actual quote, but let's say it's not a real quote. It is believable enough that that is what Rich Rod is trying to kick the fuck out. Yeah, like you know what fun is. Fun is winning football. Like that is the fun. Rich Rod used to say fun is kicking somebody's ass. Cause he knows that it's not necessarily the most. You know, we're not bringing Will Ferrell out here.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
Pat McAfee
No, Will Ferrell's not coming out here. It is. We are a bunch of. This is a hard edge place. So he's trying to find those guys. And I assume I'm, I'm going to be tasked with helping there.
Con Man
Maybe the Irish lad. Maybe it was just with the Irish lad. The punter they're bringing in.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we got a six foot six kid guy coming out of Ireland. Punter. Punter. No kicker. He's a field goal kicker.
Con Man
Kicker.
Pat McAfee
Oh, first kick was a 55 yarder. I think they sent him out there. He was on Miami of Ohio maybe. I don't know. He played Max School. Six.
Con Man
Six.
Pat McAfee
Monster of a lad. Just smooth swinging a 55 yarder in college. It's crazy. He's coming in town. We got some edges. We got, we got quarterback coming. We got some linebackers coming in.
Ty Schmidt
Kevin Brown.
Pat McAfee
Kevin Brown. Number. Oh, we got a staple at offensive line.
Con Man
Hawkins.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. This kid's name is. His name is Jack Cassidy. Jack Cassidy. Way to get to that. I was just gonna call him Jay, but you know, Jack Cassidy.
Con Man
A little Bit might go by Jay.
Pat McAfee
There's a chance we get us by Jay. What I like to call him is Jacked Cassidy. This dude is absolutely shredded. You know, Iris is a cilantro buddy. Thank you for joining us. All right, so we gave away the contest winner. Congrats to them. We got another contest tomorrow. People should tell people that we're doing another one tomorrow. We have to figure out what that is in the next 21 hours. AJ if you have any ideas, we'd love to hear them.
AJ Hawk
Maybe like a merry Christmas between like Mitt and Debone or something about country music or sports.
Pat McAfee
I don't know. Okay, maybe something to think about. Bringing Mitt and Debone into the.
Con Man
Keep thinking. Yep. Keep thinking.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Maybe we have him race. Maybe we have him race or somebody.
AJ Hawk
Guess that's even actually much better. Do a race around the Thunderdome. One lap, maybe two laps.
Pat McAfee
What's the time of two laps around a Thunderdome and maybe they're alternating tagging each other. Yeah. They have to do four laps. We'll put talk in there too. Talks a runner.
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
Pat McAfee
M a runner.
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
Pat McAfee
Debone's been jump roping, right?
Ty Schmidt
He has been.
Pat McAfee
We've been.
AJ Hawk
What's he. Is he boxing or what?
Pat McAfee
I think he's just getting back into the swing of things. You know, New year. New. New bone. It's good. We enjoy seeing it. Full hoodies with a hat on. Still working out with the hat on.
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
Pat McAfee
Which I like to play.
Tone
We have a 4x1 team.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Around a Thunderdome. Who would be the fourth runner? Bruce runs. I mean, Foxy runs, but Foxy can't run.
Con Man
R was.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. High school champ.
Pat McAfee
Bill has to be the guy.
Pete Thamel
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so it's bone, Mitt talk and.
Con Man
Bill and does it start here?
AJ Hawk
Yes.
Con Man
And then they sprint out the front.
Pat McAfee
Door and then they come back and tag.
Con Man
Do the loop tack.
Pat McAfee
Let's get a rug in here.
Con Man
Oh, yeah. I guess that's a good.
AJ Hawk
Be the ankle. Who's running last?
Tone
The temperature outside, those lungs are going to be burning.
Pat McAfee
Burning.
Ty Schmidt
That's good though.
Pat McAfee
That's what we're looking for. People have to predict the exact time. Yeah, we got it.
Tone
This is fun.
Pat McAfee
This is what these boys train for.
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
This is why Mitt is running four miles straight. Seven minute miles.
Con Man
Flat footed. Nonetheless.
Pat McAfee
On the treadmill, it sounds like what Connor's saying. Four miles. Seven minute miles straight through. That is dang.
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
Pat McAfee
He's going.
AJ Hawk
I'm not doing that.
Tone
He gets on and then he Stops running. The next time his brain has a thought.
Con Man
Jeez.
AJ Hawk
I mean that's actually a skill. If you could do that, Mitt can.
Pat McAfee
Turn off his brain and focus on things. Which we do. Exactly to your point, it is a skill. Mitt. That was not true. What Tone just said.
Ty Schmidt
Pretty good though.
Con Man
Pretty, pretty good. Debone did just say he was a regular in The Fat Man 4x4 in high school.
AJ Hawk
Yes.
Con Man
So he has also been training for this his whole life.
Pat McAfee
Okay, so is Bone going last?
Ty Schmidt
He's the, he's the anchor.
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
Con Man
Yeah, we know, we know that.
Pat McAfee
All right, so that's tomorrow. People are now going to be trying to figure out how.
Con Man
Yeah.
Tone
But they have no idea what the.
Pat McAfee
The actual track is. And the hashtag cuz it could go out to a trailer free and come back. Doesn't have to necessarily be around because.
Ty Schmidt
The terrain out there. One of these guys might break a.
Con Man
Leg or it might be 20 minutes.
Pat McAfee
Blow a knee out. Caleb, by the way.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Caleb's ankle did a full basketball.
Pete Thamel
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Roll on that thing. I think basketball ankles just throughout their careers, childhood, high school. I think they kind of get like calloused up to like roles because it happens. I remember when I was playing at Boyce, you know, a little pickup basketball out there at Boyce Park. I rolled my ankles ankle and it felt like that thing exploded and it actually did. I swelled up and then I watched like two other guys who play hoops their entire lives, their ankles rolling like nothing happens. I'm like, do they build up calluses to like rolled ankles? Caleb Williams ankle looked like that thing was going to be blown up and be problematic. Do we have an update on that this week? Because of what it was. He steps on the guy's shoe. I thought it was over right there because that one is like very annoying. Annoying. That's like a very annoying painful. Now obviously they can give him some pain pills and as the game's going, you would hope he'd be able to finish that game. But like what is the fallout from that? Because I've had something similar to that. And that thing was beach ball, you know. Absolutely.
AJ Hawk
I would assume that. I know when that like whenever I roll my ankle bad. They would put like a, a horseshoe type like felt like cloth thing and then they strap it on to push the blood up away from your ankle and then your whole leg is just bloody underneath the skin.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So I don't know if there's an update on what is happening with Caleb's ankle, but. But that, that Would certainly happen to somebody out here.
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. There'd be multiple.
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
Con Man
Automatic.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, That's a risk we're willing to take. Right.
Tone
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Hey, two tickets to the big college game.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, good point. That's a good point.
Con Man
It's all about.
Pat McAfee
I mean, and then after that, we don't need to find another one.
Ty Schmidt
Don't need another one.
Con Man
No, that's it.
Pat McAfee
Maybe on Monday. No, it'd be too tough to get somebody to Miami. Miami so far a trip. Miami. So far down there. I was thinking maybe Monday we think about doing a giveaway where we offer somebody to get on a plane, fly. Oh, that's a far trip. I don't even know.
AJ Hawk
You could do local. You know, some locals. You could somehow do a giveaway for them.
Pat McAfee
Oh, do like a scavenge. Like an actual scavenger hunt where we bury a couple within the city, hide them somewhere. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure we'll do that.
Ty Schmidt
It's a lot of leg work.
AJ Hawk
Put them like just three inches outside the stadium somewhere.
Pat McAfee
Now, on that note, I do think.
Tone
Think might incite a riot, too, which is.
AJ Hawk
Yeah, you're right.
Ty Schmidt
These are a hot commodity, especially down there.
Con Man
How that stadium is done with.
Tone
Yeah.
Con Man
Letting fans in and breaking in.
Ty Schmidt
Do you remember crawling through the vents like mice?
Pat McAfee
That was unbelievable. Getting in here. Getting in here for sure. I'm excited for the World Cup. Speaking of that, soccer really brought out some.
Tone
Yes.
Pat McAfee
Some environments. Some.
Tone
Some stuff.
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And now that we know that. Yeah, there they were.
AJ Hawk
That was a.
Pat McAfee
Awesome. This was happening.
Con Man
Awesome.
Tone
I heard there's going to be extra security Monday at the game.
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Because President of the United States of America, the Commander in Chief.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Con Man
You do this, they'll shoot you in the head.
Pat McAfee
All right. We do not know if that's true, but I will say it's going to be pretty buttoned up down there. Us walking around on the sideline. I assume just got a little bit more restricted. Yeah. Probably before that particular tweet went out.
Con Man
We got our spots.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, we. This is the only area we need. You guys understand that we won't do anything else. Absolutely.
Tone
Since those are kind of our spots now, we should maybe have like, leather couches brought in.
Pat McAfee
Oh, you think we should be sitting down? Could you imagine legs crossing? Oh, hey, yeah. Couple drinks, maybe a little pop. Just so disrespectful to the boys. They're goal line for the national championship. They look over.
Con Man
Well, we'd stand for that one, of course.
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
Pat McAfee
Yeah, maybe. Unless you're A little exhaust.
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, maybe. Maybe napping. Maybe fell asleep at some point.
Pat McAfee
Can't do that. We're so incredibly lucky to be on the sideline of this particular game. These particular games. It's been a hell of a run to this national championship by the Miami Hurricanes, which we were there, Texas A and M, when they battled not only the aggies, but also 110,000 plus of screaming Aggie Nation. And then also like 25, 30 mile an hour winds that just kind of dominated that entire game. Then they beat the hell out of Ohio State, then they outlast Ole Miss, and then they get to the national championship in their home stadium. Have to take on who all the team that's been the most dominant in the history of the College Football Playoff. A quarterback who has more touchdowns than incompletions in the entire College Football Playoff. A defense that is so fundamentally sound that you wonder if they have any weaknesses. Well, Miami and Chris Bargain try to find that out. With Carson Beck at quarterback taking on the Heisman winner Fernando Mendoza and Coach Signetti and mad scientist defensive coordinator named Bryant Haynes in Shanahan, it's gonna be special on Monday night, the big college game. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Be your friend, Tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're in this thing together. We're back tomorrow. We're giving away another pair of tickets on the program. Be your friend, Tell a friend that. AJ Any final thoughts here for the boys as we look ahead to divisional tomorrow on Friday?
AJ Hawk
Yeah, we need to enjoy this weekend.
Con Man
No question.
AJ Hawk
We got, you know, football is. You know, it's fleeting as we. As we move into the future. So let's enjoy it right now.
Pat McAfee
College basketball showing up for us in a big way. Golf is teeing off.
AJ Hawk
It's happening.
Pat McAfee
Tennis has been awesome. They've been running state fair shit that's been really cool to watch. But football is football and we love it.
AJ Hawk
Always team on me.
Pat McAfee
Team on three. One, two, three. Team goodbye.
This episode is a classic Pat McAfee Show: high-energy NFL and sports talk with Pat and the crew, packed with insider info, hilarious banter, and big breaking news. Today’s focus is the monumental hiring of John Harbaugh as New York Giants head coach; reactions from Adam Schefter; updates with Pete Thamel on a college basketball gambling scandal; and the usual wild ride through NFL playoff storylines, new stadiums, and the latest ticket giveaway challenge—this time, involving a literal punch-out. The tone is part expert analysis, part locker-room hangout.
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