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PMS 2.0 1490 - The Indiana Hoosiers Win the National Championship, Dan Orlovsky, Bruce Arians, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Pat McAfee
Hello, beautiful people, and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this, the Indiana Hoosiers are national champs. Tuesday, January 20, 2026. This program begins now. Football is the greatest. And last night down in Miami, we crowned a new national champion. And the winner of the big college game for football was the Indiana Hoosier. Wow, what a night is coach Signetti. Fernando Mendoza and the Hoosier faithful find, you know, success in the most hopeless place. The losing his program in the history of ball in just a two year stint has now become the best team in the world. And that man, Yinzer Mountaineer Kurt Signetti, after giving a thanks to his dad, Frank. I hope you're up there watching Paizon. We fucking did it. Gets the Gatorade bath from Charlie Becker and the boys and celebrates a national championship where this might not be the last. Signetti felt ready for the moment. Couple massive timeouts he made last night. They were gonna send a field goal unit out. Instead they send Fernando back out on fourth down. What's Fernando do? And then the dive that is gonna be immortalized forever down there in Indiana. Full extension, full bruise. I believe he was bleeding and potentially even got concussed in this entire thing. Now, there is no unaffiliated neurological consultant that would certainly call that in, but a man was willing to risk his life and he actually said that. He said, I believe in myself. I have full FAI coverage. Was man, half was zoned. I'm supposed to run it if it's zoned. I'm supposed to throw it if it's man. It was half and half. I decided to bet on myself and I decided I could die on that field is what Fernando Mendoza said afterwards about that particular play. And Kurt Signetti obviously is the greatest talent evaluator in college ball. All the NIL transfers that he has brought in, he has hit upon him. And Fernando Mendoza felt like a perfect match. Both just because of how they act, their personalities, how they view ball, their work ethics, you name it. What a masterful chemistry build that they had immediately. And then Cooper Jr. Was a monster for Indiana all night last night. Becker rolls his ankle covering a punt. Then he gets a fourth down catch, a third down catch two back shoulders. Noakowski was in that thing. It was really a who's who from the Indiana Hoosiers side of things. And this Miami Hurricanes team did not relent. The Miami Hurricanes defense was all over the place. Late hits, sure tough tackles, definitely. That's been Miami Hurricanes football throughout this entire playoff. We knew with the Big 12 officials, they weren't going to call anything. That was kind of like the storyline is they're not going to call anything until Landino gets a little bit of a late hit on a quarterb in the fourth quarter on a third down. And they call that against him, which was certainly an interesting call. But I thought last night was a physical football game. I thought it was a great football game. I thought it was an instant classic. I think Miami covers congratulations to them. And South Florida native Sharp puts that thing away, takes his helmet off. Obviously they have to have the ball at the three for a couple kneel downs. And the Indiana Hoosiers are national champions in football. It was a fantastic night, I would say, down there in Miami for the Hoosiers faithful. I think they're about 60%, 65% maybe down there. They took over every stadium that they were in. Their fan base is obviously pumped about what's about to happen. And now Coach Signetti, we got a chance to catch up with them this morning. Now we're working for next year, all of a sudden.
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Conman
That's right.
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Pat McAfee
I said, you got at least take 24 hours. He goes, we got young guys, NFL draft. We got. I'll take it in someday. He said, I'll take it. I got travel down here to go do this. We got junior days coming up. I got. We got to do a celebration at some point. He says, I'll think about it. Because we wanted to give him like, hey, take this in. People are going to write a movie about this. Actually, you said it'd be a good movie. Actual. They're going to do like case studies on what you're able to do here in leadership. They're going to do sociology studies about how you got a group to buy in and to believe not only the team, not only the boosters, but an entire community bought in on something that had been non existent for like 100 years or so. It's a special story coming out of Bloomington. And that guy is unbelievable. He's a movie character in real life who loves ball, loves his players, loves his team. And he was asked last night, what's next? And he goes, wait, maybe I retire. Maybe I retired.
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Conman
Not a bad idea.
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Pat McAfee
And then he thought about the family. He's like, but we need money. We sign one of those big. And then he looked directly at the reporting, goes, what would I do? Like, that is an actual question for him. If he did not coach football, what would he do? Obviously gets a later start at his head coaching D1 career. But boy, he's come in there ready for the moment. And it was an honor to be on the sideline. Shout out to college football. Been a hell of a run.
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Ty Schmidt
College football.
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Conman
Unreal.
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Pat McAfee
Talk to the tables here at Boston Con or at Ty Schmidt Con, man. You became a Hoosier fan. Didn't really have a college team. Whenever you cut. Shout out to the Stags.
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Conman
Shout out.
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Pat McAfee
You didn't really have a college football team. I think you were hunting a little bit. And then as soon as we meet Signetti and see what type of football he likes to play. Hey, we like to play fundamentally sound football. We like guys that are dogs everywhere. And we're gonna spin it. No risk it. No biscuit. Couple times last night, Signetti said, you gotta go for it or you're gonna lose. And if you go for it and you don't get it, you're an idiot. But you go for it and you get it. Obviously, the right movies about you. That is kind of the story of this Indiana Hoosiers team. They've gone for it. Last year they were good. Obviously. They lose to Notre Dame, everybody calls them a joke, they reload, come back even better this year, 16 and oh. First time that's been done in football since Yale and whatever. And then obviously, the Indiana Hoosier basketball team goes undefeated for their last national championship or for a national championship. And now the IU football team goes undefeated for a national championship. Crazy time in Indiana. Great time to be an Indianapolis resident.
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Conman
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And you becoming an IU fan here over the last couple years and getting into college football, perfect for you. New England Patriots fan.
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Conman
Yeah, no doubt about it. It was fantastic. You mentioned it. Just the story of the misfits, you know, Coogan, their center, who I believe was out. Out all last night. Based on the press conference and the his face at the press conference. The boys were having a good time at 11, but just his demeanor, like it is very cool for a coach to go in and talk all that shit and then for him to follow up on it and actually win and that he is so cool this morning. Waking up and seeing the scene or last night, getting in, whenever. Either way, seeing the scene. Yeah. In Bloomington, last night was something very special. Like the drone footage. Yeah, right here. Boom. Like all these kids on this, you know, one street celebrating a victory. Just the passion. So cold out. Yeah. Zero degrees, possibly 10 under with the wind chill. It was freezing, but you can't tell. I mean, they are having the time of their lives. Fireworks like that is another scene out of the movie or a movie about this entire team. And a lot of the times we talk about, like, the Colts fan bases in college football, like we're witnessing the birth of one, which I think is sweet. Like, we are witnessing iu, who's always been a great, you know, athletic school as far as, you know, fans in Indiana, just in general.
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Pat McAfee
Hoops, they got that. What's that? The basketball assembly hall.
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Ty Schmidt
Assembly Hal.
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Pat McAfee
Like the largest student, I believe is what it's called. And it goes straight up a lot of pride in, like, how much they've loved basketball. Hoops. Hoops. Hoops. Hoops. Because that's really the only thing they've ever had a chance in since the Bob Knight days. It's like basketball is what we do here. Indiana is a basketball state. Pacers were always like the thing, you know, it was Pacers and racers, it was the Indy 500, and it was basketball. And that all goes back to Bob Knight at iu. All of it. All of this goes back to Bob Knight basically birthing a basketball community out here. And that's what they felt they only had the opportunity in. So Signetti coming out eerily similar to Bob. Accountability driven, never happy, not throwing a chair. Not outrageous. He's a yinzer. He has his own, but he's older. He's a disciplinarian type guy. Perfect match. Dr. Pam Whitten said, you know, we laid the foundation for this in 2021. We built up some infrastructure, and then whenever we needed a coach, we knew he was the guy. We knew he was the right guy for the fit. I'm not 100% sure she knew how perfect of a fit was for the fan base with MLB and Bob Knight type people. But this fan base obviously loves him. And if you win, I mean, it's only going to continue to roll. They had that picture of Sig's first game down there In Indiana with 6,000, 5,000 people in the stands, maybe 4,000 people in the stands or whatever it is. I mean, obviously it's so big, so you don't. It's tough to count maybe 1,000 people in the stands. His first game there. That's August 31st. That's not that long ago.
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Ty Schmidt
Nope.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. So for what he's been able to do, he's been able to remain and keep people committed to the program. It's insanity. Now he's got to worry about guys leaving early. He's got to wor about who's coming in the transfer portal. He's got to worry about the celebration that they got to plan for the national championship. He's got to worry about going to other places because maybe he's getting acknowledged and honored for things. It's like, what an insane run. Strength coach getting paid the highest amount of money any strength coach has ever been paid to go down to Tennessee. He's a massive piece of this entire thing. Fernando Mendoza talked about how he added 15, 20 pounds this year strictly because the strength coach was like, you have to get bigger. It's like all of it is so special down there. And to your point, it does feel like it's only starting.
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Conman
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And like Rose Bowl, Indiana. Hoosiers fans were like, yeah, can't wait to travel all the way out there, drive on two lane road to get down. And how many hours we gotta wait in traffic for? Sick. The Hoosiers are in Rose Bowl. We'll go there. Peach bowl, other side of the country. Oh, sick. Can't wait to go there and just kind of celebrate this entire thing. National championship. It's a Miami home game. Most expensive tickets in the history of College Football Playoff.
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Conman
Yes.
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Pat McAfee
I can't believe we get to go watch the Hoosiers play football right now. That is how the fan base kind of views the football team. And last night was a celebration of it. And it's only going to expedite the entire process, obviously.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it seemed like last night, you know, especially like, if you went to a Big ten school or and you have been watching Indiana, you know, for most your life, it seemed like a lot of the fans were kind of in, like the, hey, we may never get this opportunity again. So, yeah, this is the most expensive ticket ever. But, like, I love the Hoosiers. I need to be there. And then after the game, after they win, like, it's the expectation now, and they're in a perfect spot. Because like you said with Sig, like he mentioned it, should I retire? Like, well, what am. What else am I going to do? He's already turned. You know, he could have taken any job, Penn State job.
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Pat McAfee
I would assume that if his lawyer. He has a lawyer, doesn't have an agent, has a lawyer from Birmingham who does all this shit, I guess for him. I assume if his lawyer were to reach out to any of these NFL teams, especially at this moment. Yeah, reach out to any of these NFL teams or any of these college teams and goes, hey, Sig. Kind of interested in the situation at this exact moment, they'd all go blank check. What are you looking for, buddy? Because you got business Leaders, like profound business leaders that are watching these videos coming out of Signetti's leadership and how he views things. And they're like, who's. What is. Is this the greatest coach that we've ever seen? Now obviously Coach Saban, goat Bill Belichick goat for the NFL. But like the way Sig talks, the way he operates and the way he's been able to turn this over so quickly, he's got the entire world noticing like how special of a story happening in. Down there in Bloomington. Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
And I think a lot of people like to take that and be like, well, it's, you know, it's overblown. He's a college football coach. Maybe he's not, but because we talked with Saban yesterday about the. And you know, how it's based on the recruiting, you know, companies that, that give these out and yes, money and all that kind of stuff. But like you look at a guy like d' Angelo Ponce and I said this before the show and was like kind of joking but also not joking at all. Like if Kurt Signetti had the. Just the talent, the. And the measurables of like an Ohio State team or you know, like where all these guys when they come in to campus, it's like this guy is gonna, he's going to play in the NFL. Like Indiana doesn't have a bunch of those guys. So if he did have a bunch of those guys, he might over the next 10 years go 160 and oh like there I, I really think there is a legitimate chance because he's just, he's a fucking unbelievable coach. And the attention to detail, all that kind of stuff, like that's part of who he is. You know, he, yeah, he's a little quirky, he's different. But like he knows who he is and he knows how to get the most out of his teams. And like you said like last night was the example, but like if you think Indiana is going anywhere, you're out of your mind. Like they are the new, they are the new kings of the Big Ten.
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Pat McAfee
It's only going up.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Yorkman, who runs Cook Medical Group down there in Bloomington, who is the head of the nil, obviously Mark Cuban, very successful, accomplished, very wealthy Indiana Hoosier grad and alumni. Yinzer as well. Just like Signetti, who comes out here to Indiana and has a professional career shout out to that pipeline. Feels like Pittsburgh Yinzer's coming to Indiana having success is certainly something that's only going to continue. Like minded people lot flatter here. You Know than Pittsburgh, massive hills everywhere. But like minded folks, I think that is why I've loved living out here so much, is because it does feel like home at this stage for me. But whenever you think about like, Cuban is not the biggest owner to their sports. Okay, Cuban certainly a part of the donations to their sports has certainly helped basketball over the years, has certainly helped football over the last couple years. But it's like, he's not the only one. And there's people, I don't know if they have as much money as Mark Cuban, but they're spending a lot of their money on the Indiana Hoosiers. That goes to Dr. Pam Whitten, who's rallied and said, hey, this is what we're focusing on. We're going to do this. And then obviously it goes to Kurt Signetti getting results this quickly because we talk about, you know, in the NIL era, the people with the money. Remember there was a whole time where James Franklin gets fired Week five or whatever, loses to Oregon, loses the ucla, loses Northwestern at home. They're supposed to be national champions. That's a tough run. His record against top schools, Terrible, abysmal is what they would say. Now granted, those top schools, would they go on to become national champions. Just like Dan Lanning in Oregon's kind of staring down right now, hey, you got your ass beat in these games. It was like, yeah, to who? The national champion. So maybe we talk about that. He might fall into that conversation. But then there was an immediate like, well, just because the people who give the money to Penn State don't want James Franklin, like, they shouldn't have any say or whatever, it's like, okay, well then you're not going to get their money. And if you don't get their money, then you're not in the game anymore. So it's like Signetti winning with these people's money. Like Cuban said, he is like, hey, the decisions they're making with the money is very good. It's like as long as you do good with it. I think these alumni get like excited that they're a part of it. Like last night, all the people that donated from Indiana Hoosier alumni into the program and won, they feel like they won the national championship.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it was worth it. Great.
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Pat McAfee
Roi, they were the owner, like, they think they were the owners of the team. They're telling their group, their friends that they flew down to Miami. Lot of planes, fun. Everybody thinks like Texas has a lot of private planes. They certainly do. Everybody thinks like Miami has a lot of people with private planes. They certainly do. Indiana's got a lot of Cessnas that were flying down there because there's a lot of professional degrees coming out of iu. So it's not like hundreds of millions, but you got a lot of millionaires coming out of Indiana. University, med school, law school, dentist school, business school, you're talking about. Those are all high paying jobs. So if you're able to give 100,000, 150,000, 2 million, 10 million, whatever it is, it's like, especially if you win and that money goes to a good player, like, hey, you help bring in Landino, we appreciate you doing that. Then Landino's all over the place. The person that's given that money is like, yep, that's because of me.
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Conman
Yeah, that's my guy.
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Pat McAfee
So that money only goes up because it was like, that was fun.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I'll double it this year.
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Pat McAfee
Let's do that again. And it's like, that's a two year period. He was able to convince people that that was the case. The big issue is can you get the financial supporting from the booster? Now can you evaluate talent? That goes to, can you get the financial boosting? Because if you're good at evaluating talent, guess what's going to come that money. If you're bad at evaluating talent, guess what's going to shut off that money right there. So he just set himself up for the next 10 years if he wanted to. Because all these boost just had the night of their lives, the run of their lives. And they're only going to continue to give in because they know that it pays off. It's like, what a perfect run here over two years for Signetti. And I think even losing to Notre Dame was a good part of the story because the Indiana fans who have to live with Notre Dame people here in Indiana. Shouts Coach Freeman, by the way, absolute dog. Very thankful he was on game day last night representing Notre Dame out there. But it was like losing Notre Dame. That only made like the boosters even more like, okay, we gotta, yeah, we gotta turn this up a little bit. We think we have it. Then they went in. Addie. It's like, man, all signs are up into the right for this Indiana Hoosier sports squad.
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Darius J. Butler
Yeah, not just evaluating talent, but developing talent like him and his OC and DC that have been there forever. Haynes and Shanahan, like, so look at the guys that came over from jmu. Aiden Fisher, the linebacker, he was two time all Big Ten after coming with him. He had a huge sack Last night. Elijah Surat didn't have his best game last night, but he's been all Big Ten twice. D' Angelo Pons, just an absolute stud. He'll be going to the NFL camara with the block punt last night a JMU guy, Caitlin Black, the running back was awesome. Tyreek Tucker was first team all Big Ten. So like, yeah, he can evaluate talent, but then they develop talent and make them better than what they were supposed to be by whatever. And then you talk about like, is this team going to go anywhere? No, they have a top five transfer portal class right now, I believe Sig I rumored he's about to get his first five star. He has four, four stars already committed. But like Charlie Becker's going to be back. Cooper could be back. Who knows if he's going to go to the NFL or not. They just got Nick Marsh from Michigan State. Wide receiver is going to be good. They brought in running backs. Their left tackle said he's coming back. They got a great O lineman from Wisconsin like they are. They're just going to come back with the guys that they brought in and the guys that they have. And as long as they have that culture, like they're going to be good for a long time.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. And Sig isn't going to let that culture go and the alumni aren't going to let the money stop flowing in there in the. I think it's good for college football that the largest alumni base is going to be around for a while. Now let's go to the other side of the coin. 9 year NFL vet Brad county hall of Famer, ladies and gentlemen, Darius J. Baller is here. D. Bunch, we saw you potting.
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Tone
No, I was.
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Pat McAfee
We saw you potting for a little bit and then you said, wait, this is a national championship game. Miami's playing in it. We're in Miami. This is a cool moment. You had to, I think, do a couple motivational speeches to yourself to get yourself into a spot of like, yeah, lucky to be thankful to be here. Lucky to be here. But when it was 10 nothing and Indiana was up and they get the ball back right before half and kind of just let it kind of run down. Then they throw a Hail Mary and it doesn't work out. Then they get the ball to start the second half. It's like, that could have been 13, then that could have been 20, like that could have been 20 nothing. Indiana there with two more series. And then this Miami team fought like, I think the best thing about this Miami team that we've seen throughout the entirety of College Football Playoff is they answered to Bell, let alone with explosive plays with Mark Fletcher, who's an absolute dog. This guy got into a little something after the game there that's certainly going to be talked about. Everybody around Mark Fletcher says he is great human being. His interaction with Fernando Mendoza was obviously very sentimental and everything like that. He was a huge piece of the Hurricanes puzzle a season and into the playoff run or whatever the case is. But it's like they answered the bell every single time. And then Crystal Ball comes out afterwards, gets emotional in. In the hallway, you know, and Crystal Ball's not really an emotional guy. You could see him, though. The Big Bear was trying to hold back. He was.
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Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
There was a coup as he was talking about what that locker room did for the U, what that locker room did for Miami, what that locker room did for the school. He talked about, like, for the first time in 25 years, it felt like how it was supposed to feel because of who was in that locker room right there. So that's obviously a rough way to end a season. But for the Miami Hurricanes, I think you zoom out a little bit. Good place. Great place. What a run. Even though you lose to the Hoosiers.
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Tone
Yeah, absolutely. I'm sure they feel terrible today because you only get, you know, so many opportunities when you're on this stage. You talked about it being 25 years since they won one, and you talk about a program in an area that's kind of hot bed for talent. So you get to that mountaintop, and then you come up short. You see the confetti, you see the celebration with Indiana on your home field. That's going to be a tough pill to swallow. And you know this, like, you never have that same team. It's never going to be that same group of guys. You know, the coaches, the players, all of the staff, the men and women behind the scenes who play whatever role they play. But they fought. They left it all out on the table. Even getting into the playoffs. It was questioned going into the playoffs. They had to battle the conditions and everything in Texas A and M on the road out there. Then you go to Ohio State. That was kind of back and forth. Dogfight, then the Fiesta Bowl. Same thing with Ole Miss. Came down to the end. They just answered the bell last night. You mentioned Indiana had went up. And based on what we saw with Indiana leading up to that game, it could have gotten a situation where they just blow the doors off them. But they competed, they continued to fight. It Just came up short. Indiana was the better team. They found a way to win it down the stretch. And usually big games come down to just big moments that, you know, not going forward in the end of the first half, missing that field goal, I feel like that was a huge moment. And then Indiana obviously going forward making that decision that, hey, you know what, we're not gonna live in our fears. We're gonna go out here and win it and put the ball in our best player's hands. And Fernando made an unbelievable play that will live in history forever like. And then the play call, the play call was great as well because you know that defense and that team. When you think about Miami, the first thing you think about is the game records off the edge. We saw him dominating all playoff run. Ruben Bane Jr. And Akeem Messidor. So you use their strength against them. You know they're going to get up field on 4th and 5, 4th and 4, and then you use that quarterback draw. And then he made a phenomenal play to jump cut, ran over backer, took two tremendous shots and then dove into the end zone. So it came down to moments and they made the plays. The other fourth down to Charlie B, you know, he stepped up and made unbelievable catches down the stretch. It was just an all around tone. Named all the names who made huge plays in this game and that's what it's going to come down to. And it ended with Jamari Sharp going up and intercepting it to close it out. Another Miami kid.
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Pat McAfee
What do you think happened on that play? What do you think happened on that play?
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Tone
I mean, I think Keela Marriott, I don't think he expected the ball because on the snap you saw the safety get off the hash and go over the top. And usually when you have it's like receivers cloud, he's basically double coverage. So he's like, okay, I'm not going to be in this progression. Carson Beck probably going to go somewhere else. But Beck probably made his mind up pre snap. I'm assuming that I'm going to Keelan and Jamar Sharp did a great job. He didn't have another threat in the flat. Just continued to sink back, have his eyes on the quarterback and then go up and high point it and get the interception. I'm sure Beck, you know, obviously you hate this. This is the biggest moments. It was 40 seconds and the clock was this first down, I believe first down. So you had other opportunities and you just threw it up there. I think Keelan took the blame for it after the game which, you know, a good teammate will.
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Pat McAfee
He thought he was running a distraction route right there. Yeah, he goes all the way out to the sideline. Let me get these guys as far away from the play as possible.
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Tone
Yeah, you. You can see his helmet on the other angle. Kind of from behind him, you could just see his helmet. Not even looking back at quarterback, but looking at the safety. So once again, once you see that, you're like, this ball's not coming to me. I got two guys on me. Somebody else has to be open. So it was a bad read. You know, it was a bad throw. But it happens in this moment. There were other opportunities for Miami to win this game, and it just comes down to making plays. And Indiana made more plays.
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Pat McAfee
Carson back, by the way, for MII Stock up. That obviously not a good play. And I think he wanted to throw it to Marion. Marion made a lot of plays for him. Not that Malachi Tony hadn't. C.J. daniels had an Alex Bauman, number 87.
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Tone
Yep.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, he gets thumped.
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Conman
Cool.
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Pat McAfee
He. He might have his own highlight reel of taking monster hits throughout the season. It's, you know, he's wearing 87, he's a massive white tight end. So you immediately think to yourself, oh, Gronkowski, right? Cause that's just how it's going to go forever. And then you remember about Gronk. What was Gronk's thing?
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Tone
Well.
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Pat McAfee
Cause he was so big. He took so many big shots. It was like, that's why he had some back issues coming out. And that's why, like, you know, every. When he was playing, he's the most dominant guy on a football field, but he was taking huge sh. Every single. Let alone people trying to soft his knees, everything. It's like that Bowman guy. Every time we saw him around the ball, he was getting thumped. Matt hit from pawns on him. 170 pounder to disrupt or to dislodge the ball. What a shot by him. But on that note, I think Carson made up his mind. I'm going to Marion here. Deep shot on this particular play because if it's incomplete. Cool. We still got a couple more shots at this thing. Let's go ahead and try to steal it. Obviously it doesn't work out because of a miscommunication. Almost like Caleb and DJ Morlo on how the game would end. But on that note, it's like, I like what Carson Beck showed. I think Carson Beck showed a lot of fight. I think Carson Beck was a good teammate. I think Carson Beck in the big moments throughout the entirety of the College Football Playoff rose to the occasion. It's like, I was very impressed with that Miami team. I thought Indiana was going to cover for sure. The fact that everybody else on game day thought it was Miami was crazy to me.
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Conman
Weird.
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Pat McAfee
I was very like, I'm like, you guys doing this for a bit. I didn't know if there was a.
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Darius J. Butler
Bit that I. I figured dez, because he lives there, right?
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Conman
Right.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Definitely going to pick. Miami lives in Coral Gables.
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Tone
He's been on them heavy. And Coach Saban, he. He's been on Miami, too. He kind of said, hey, if they got into the dance, they got into the playoffs, this would probably be the most dangerous team. Then Miami being on the run, that they had, the physicality, too. We watched Miami the whole run, like, them in the trenches, their size and how physical they were. I thought that could have definitely been the difference in the game. But, like, the job that Sig has done, Coach Signetti, like. Like, this is. And this isn't, I don't think, a crazy statement. This is the best coaching job I've ever seen in college football, probably in sports. Not only the turnaround. You talk about the talent evaluation part of it, which is huge, but then the game management part of it. And you can see it. We always are on the field so we can see what's going on kind of in between the TV timeouts and stuff. Like, he lets his guys coach. Like, he sets the tone and obviously he runs the show. And I don't know what's going on in practices, but he lets his guys coach. He lets his guys step up in those situations. So just. Just everything that he's been able to do, like, it's going to be unbelievable. And you got to take advantage of the opportunity that you get when you reach this stage, because we all assume we see great teams, great coaches, great quarterbacks, you know, oh, they'll be back. You know, they'll have another opportunity. They'll win two, they'll win three. A lot of people say Ohio State was just going to run it back this year because of the talent they had all up and down that roster. So you got to take advantage. You can't live in your fears in these moments. And he is the best leader of men that I've seen this year throughout the season. They deserved, you know, this 16, 0, just an unbelievable job from top to bottom with this program.
- [26:05]
Pat McAfee
He's supposed to be a football coach. That is what he's supposed to in this era. He's supposed to Be a football coach. Go ahead.
- [26:11]
Darius J. Butler
We talk about how much of a movie this is and the ties between Miami and this IU team with Mendoza. Jamari Sharp, who got the last interception. His uncle Glenn Sharp was the one who got called for the PI in the Ohio State game. Ohio State, Miami, Natty. So, like, just the tie and the. Everything that goes into this was just insane all around.
- [26:32]
Pat McAfee
Storybook.
- [26:33]
Darius J. Butler
Storybook, yes, Very much so.
- [26:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And Sharp thought about not taking his helmet off. Thought about it, like, two days, because that was right in front of us. So I literally saw the contemplation in his eyes. Not supposed to take this off. Just won the national championship in Miami. Let me go ahead and pop that thing off. It's me. This is. This is what. This was immediate, obviously. Flag flies half the distance through it all. Sit. Going to sideline, I think is like, we want to know. You can't do that. But also, it's awesome. And yeah, it was a special night. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who had a special day on the Internet yesterday, ladies and gentlemen. He is the ball knower for espn, former NFL quarterback, friend of the program. Ladies and gentlemen, Dan Orlovsky. Dan. Oh, family forever. Obviously. Love what you're repping up there. Also. Good to see you, Hulk. You know what I mean? Good to see you Hole. Cause yesterday I saw you put out a tweet, and it was pretty. Pretty depressing. I'll be honest. This app we're breaking, man, and I'm in the middle of. I don't know what time you put that out. It could have been any time of the day. Yesterday was all one big blur. But I remember I was scrolling my phone looking for things, you know, what's going on in Bloomington. Watch parties just for me to use, maybe in game day. So I. And I see this tweet and I go, come on, Dan. I don't need this dramatic bullshit. So then I. Then I searched Dan Orlovsky on X. I can see how it could potentially break you. You. You were really getting it on the shins, brother. Is everything all right? Are we okay? How do we feel?
- [28:02]
Dan Orlovsky
Long day in the Internet. Long day on the Internet.
- [28:05]
Pat McAfee
Are you back in a batter's box or what do we do?
- [28:07]
Dan Orlovsky
Shake it off.
- [28:08]
Pat McAfee
Shake it off.
- [28:09]
Ty Schmidt
I'm here.
- [28:10]
Tone
Absolutely.
- [28:10]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah.
- [28:11]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Who hates you?
- [28:12]
Dan Orlovsky
New day.
- [28:13]
Pat McAfee
How do Indiana fans feel about you? Have you been on Indiana, you know, or you've been. Have you been against.
- [28:17]
Dan Orlovsky
No, I picked Indiana.
- [28:18]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [28:19]
Conman
Yeah.
- [28:19]
Dan Orlovsky
I feel like the Indiana fans. I got. I got A. I got support from the Indiana fans. The people who hate me the most right now, I believe are anyone from New England.
- [28:29]
Pat McAfee
Yes.
- [28:31]
Dan Orlovsky
Mainly the Irish, I would imagine. I believe people from Baltimore have hated me for well over a year. I think the people in Chicago dislike me pretty significantly. So I've got. I've got some.
- [28:45]
Pat McAfee
Him.
- [28:45]
Dan Orlovsky
Some group of groups of people who hate me right now.
- [28:47]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So obviously you earned these things. So. Groups of people.
- [28:52]
Dan Orlovsky
I don't know about that.
- [28:53]
Conman
Yes, you probably shut up. You know, you did. From New England.
- [28:57]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, there you go.
- [28:58]
Pat McAfee
That's an Irish from the New England.
- [29:00]
Conman
And it's not just Irish, by the way.
- [29:01]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [29:02]
Conman
Okay. The Italians I know don't like him. Basically everybody in New England doesn't like him. It's not just, oh, Irish.
- [29:08]
Dan Orlovsky
Probably fair.
- [29:09]
Pat McAfee
What did you do? What did you do to New England? What did you do up there?
- [29:12]
Dan Orlovsky
Well, what happened? This, this is the. This is the chain of events. So for the great majority of this season, I have spoke glowingly about the Patriots, mainly the offense.
- [29:26]
Conman
Don't do this whole thing. Just say what you did yesterday, Dan. We don't have to go all the way back though. It's just what you did yesterday.
- [29:33]
Pat McAfee
You are. I'm sorry. Yesterday.
- [29:37]
Dan Orlovsky
Okay. And so then going into the game, I truly felt that Houston, because of their defense, would go there and win. They don't. I think a huge part of that reason why, even though the defense was outstanding, was, you know, the play of C.J. c.J. Just was bad. I mean, there's no other way for me to categorize it. And bad in ways that we just haven't seen CJ Be bad. Certainly a guy of his caliber. And so yesterday on get up, I said Houston wins that game with 31 other quarterbacks and that. I think a lot of the Patriots fans took this as a shot to New England. It wasn't intended to. That to be that. It was more to put the context of like. Listen, and even while I'm saying it, Pat, I go and credit New England. They made crucial plays and big moments. Drake had some big time throws. But it. I think Patriots fans took it as a slight to being like, oh nothing, the Patriots did matter. No, of course it did. It was just to put in the context of like surprisingly how bad CJ Played and how much he hurt the team. And so I. It was probably a little aggressive. Yes, probably a little bit aggressive.
- [30:55]
Pat McAfee
Like, yeah, you were a little bit. You were lobskied in a little bit. But on that, the.
- [30:59]
Dan Orlovsky
Probably the better Way for me to say it is C.J. stroud did the one thing C.J. stroud couldn't do, right. Just give the ball to the other team. Like that interception, the first one, that's on first down. This interception that's on first down, the one that goes off Hutchinson's hands, I'm not putting on CJ this is not his fault. I can nitpick and say maybe get the ball down in his body. Sure. And then the one right before the half, it's on first down. So three out of the four interceptions are on first down. And they're just head scratching decisions and throws. Take away also the fact that they score a touchdown on third and goal, but they don't get it because of a legal illegal procedure because he sends the tight end in motion before the fullback is set. They don't get it, and it ends up field goal. So you sit there and I go, got it?
- [31:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [31:45]
Dan Orlovsky
Well, that's a touchdown. Taken away pick six, three points because of a field position. So, yeah, probably aggressive, but there was no, no intended slight to the Patriots. Obviously. The defense was very good and the offense was. I thought Drake played good.
- [31:57]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so then the immediate follow up is that wasn't a slight. I'm just saying if he didn't do this on first down, all this other stuff. And then the Patriots fans are saying, what, you don't think Vrabel would have figured out the other quarterback if they were going into the playoff? You don't think that they.
- [32:09]
Dan Orlovsky
Well, then everyone's like, well, we just beat Justin Herbert. And it's like, well, Herbert's defense didn't. Cause I, I don't know how this.
- [32:16]
Pat McAfee
Would be the mind of a hater here. Now you're trying to find reasons on why they're not good, which is what they probably sensed all season. Yeah.
- [32:23]
Dan Orlovsky
No, no, no.
- [32:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Let's go to Baltimore now. What did you do to boss? You pissed off all of New England because you're a bit of hater and you didn't think they were going to be as good as they are.
- [32:29]
Dan Orlovsky
Yes, yes.
- [32:30]
Pat McAfee
Around. Obviously it surprised us all what VRA's been able to do. Drake May's a real guy. You can admit that. You're allowed to change that going forward. Excited to watch you. Now let's talk about, let's talk about Baltimore. Why do they hate you?
- [32:41]
Dan Orlovsky
Hate me?
- [32:41]
Pat McAfee
That's a good city to be hated in. I don't think Baltimore is a good city to be hated in just because they're very passionate Great talkers. And I watched the Wire.
- [32:50]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Bingo.
- [32:51]
Pat McAfee
And I, I, I just don't know.
- [32:52]
Dan Orlovsky
Have not smart have not seen the Wire.
- [32:55]
Pat McAfee
Watch out later if you make up with them, what's go. Amen. What? What did you do?
- [33:00]
Dan Orlovsky
Actually, actually I've pondered going to the Morgan show in Baltimore this summer because it's not in New England.
- [33:06]
Tone
I don't interest.
- [33:07]
Pat McAfee
That's an interesting. I don't know how to feel that's the right Serious how?
- [33:12]
Conman
Baltimore?
- [33:13]
Darius J. Butler
Texas?
- [33:13]
Pat McAfee
I, I, I genuinely don't know what the right answer is here. Okay, on that note, why do they hate you down in Baltimore?
- [33:21]
Dan Orlovsky
I believe they hate me because I voted for Josh to win the MVP last year. And everyone thinks that when Lamar loses, I say Lamar stinks. And when Josh loses, I make exc for Josh, which is not factually accurate.
- [33:39]
Pat McAfee
On espn, you know, we're th percent true. I said that.
- [33:44]
Dan Orlovsky
It's literally not true. It's just made up. It's 100% made up.
- [33:48]
Pat McAfee
Okay, 100%. Like a pretty high number like you just Orlovsky did.
- [33:52]
Dan Orlovsky
No, it's 100% made up that I am, like, hypercritical of Lamar. I'm not, I, Lamar lost in the playoffs last year, and I was the one of the people who was like, I can't pin this on Lamar, even though he has the two turnovers. And I'm like, one of those turnovers are plays that Lamar 49 out of 50 times make something great out of. And so I have nothing but love for Lamar.
- [34:13]
Pat McAfee
I voted for Lamar.
- [34:14]
Dan Orlovsky
Dan, an mvp.
- [34:15]
Ty Schmidt
Dan, when the Bills got beat this weekend, all you were doing was bitching about the officiation.
- [34:21]
Pat McAfee
Were you kicked out of your ex account? Was it not working? Like, what was happening? I didn't see anything coming up.
- [34:26]
Dan Orlovsky
Whenever Josh Allen was, I honestly, I don't, I didn't talk about the Bills game much yesterday. We didn't talk about it because the McDermott fight.
- [34:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [34:34]
Conman
Which was another, that's another reason people.
- [34:36]
Dan Orlovsky
From Baltimore were mad during the game.
- [34:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, during the game.
- [34:40]
Dan Orlovsky
What'd you say, Connor?
- [34:41]
Pat McAfee
Well, there's a lot of things to address here.
- [34:42]
Conman
It seems like people were mad about the fodder around the McDermott firing because the reasoning was, hey, if you don't win enough, you got to make a change. Yeah, there it is. Results base business. I understand the move. And then the Harbaugh firing, Orlovsky said kind of the opposite thing. Like, I, I don't understand how you could do anything like this at all.
- [35:01]
Dan Orlovsky
My gosh, dude, this is my world, right? One happens in real time, which is the McDermott firing. One, Harbaugh happened not in real time. It was hours after we commented on. I literally said the same thing on NFL live about the McDermott firing that I said about the Harbaugh firing. Is it the right decision? No, because I have no idea what the next answer is. I have no idea who that next coach is going to be and how good he'll be. Two, you're not going to find a better coach than Sean McDermott out on the market right now outside of Mike Thom, and we know he's not coaching. I said the same thing about Harbaugh. Just people make stuff up.
- [35:40]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so thank you for clearing the air there. I don't know if people are going to believe you. Maybe you should rip the clips and post them. You're very active on X, except for whenever the guys you like and put the damn wagon on are playing bad, which is what some people have kind of noticed as well. But hey, you're trying to back your thoughts. It's your business. I mean, your thoughts are your business. Your opinions are your business. I understand you got to stand by them. And then let's go to Chicago what you do to them.
- [36:03]
Dan Orlovsky
I think Chicago people hate me. I don't know the necessarily the why. I guess I said because it was going to take some time for Caleb to master Ben Johnson's offense and I know if it was going to be the perfect match. Still stand by that. Obviously the match has worked out. But I don't believe he's mastered the offense yet. No, but I think just because of that.
- [36:25]
Pat McAfee
So you're holding the line with the. You're in a three front war right now. You think? I think it's probably more. There's probably a little militias all around around that are certainly ready to get in. But you're holding the line. You're holding the line against Chicago. You're saying, nah, I don't deserve this one here. Okay, I'm gonna go to battle here. New England, okay.
- [36:42]
Dan Orlovsky
I could get the New England one. I could get it. I could, I could understand it.
- [36:46]
Pat McAfee
Connecticut, you know, you kind of understand the humans up there. You're probably doing a little bit. It's like whenever I talk about soccer, you know, I grew up in the soccer world, very easy.
- [36:53]
Conman
Just.
- [36:56]
Pat McAfee
You guys run a farm league over there in France, don't you? Just the entire country now is upset about me. Some stupid American talking their league. I feel like you do that to New England because you you potentially enjoy it. And then for Baltimore, I'll tell you what I think you get on their bad side, that's forever.
- [37:11]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [37:11]
Pat McAfee
That seems like that Morgan Wallen show that might. Yeah. Get a microphone.
- [37:16]
Dan Orlovsky
I think I'm going to look into the show.
- [37:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's probably some other cities, too. I. I don't know.
- [37:24]
Conman
Boston.
- [37:25]
Pat McAfee
Indy is pretty good. Yeah. I don't. Yeah. All right, let's move along. Let's talk about current ball. Last night, we watched the Indiana Hoosiers do something that is maybe the best lower third we've. This is on in airports, everywhere. People are traveling back from the game. People are doing everything. It's on cafes. This thing popped up while you were explaining your first war, and it was, who controls that?
- [37:46]
Dan Orlovsky
Who controls that? Is that Foxy?
- [37:48]
Pat McAfee
No, that's Nick in the back. Yeah, it's Nick in the back.
- [37:50]
Dan Orlovsky
Nick, you're.
- [37:51]
Tone
Good to see you.
- [37:52]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, great to see you, man.
- [37:54]
Pat McAfee
He does the audio in the lower thirds, so if he wants to mute you, he can certainly do that. And then what pops up on the lower thirds is out of his brain. And I appreciate the creative liberty he took on this particular one. He got a big pop out of me, for sure. You know, that's just supposed to keep people informed on what the subject is. So if they were to pop in a little bit late, what we're talking about here, or if you're walking through an airport or a cafe and you see the screen, the lower third, and the graphics are the only thing that these people know from this show.
- [38:18]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, there's probably a couple people stopping being like, yep, me too.
- [38:22]
Pat McAfee
Piss everyone off. Finally, ESPN's telling the truth. And then they move forward. Now, I said something to Robin Roberts yesterday. Whenever Reese said to Robin, she said, oh, Reese said, my old Sports center comes. Used to do it back in the ROM was like, those are good times. And I was like, that was back when ESPN was good. You know, I said that on game day.
- [38:40]
Coach B.A.
Just.
- [38:41]
Pat McAfee
I mean, clearly something I would say in the. And everybody's like, Patrick's taking shots. Espn. It's like, I think I'm on ESPN more than any human at this point. I think I am on ESPN more. That was a shot directly. Everybody's saying ESPN is terrible now because of us. And everybody was like, macphee just killed everybody at espn. It's like, nah, that was. That was me saying, this is what people say about what we've done to the sports as a whole. But also, I guess Dan Orlovsky is done too, you know. So when we have this thing down here, Robin Roberts is like, I fucking built this place for what? For Orlovsky to start a war in three different cities with 15 different militias. That's why Rhys and Robin doing SportsCenter. That was back when ESPN.
- [39:22]
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
- [39:22]
Pat McAfee
Was good. And we're both to blame for that. Dan, I think you a little bit more than me, even though I get lumped into all those things. But I do appreciate that you hop into batters box and once again, I would like to let people know. His opinions are his business though. So like he's certainly going to want his opinions to be right and be good. So everybody's like, oh, he's just trying to justify himself. It's like. But that's.
- [39:43]
Ty Schmidt
That's kind of the.
- [39:44]
Pat McAfee
That's his entire job.
- [39:45]
Dan Orlovsky
Like, that is actually hate when I'm wrong. I literally hate it. I hate it more than I can express in words.
- [39:51]
Darius J. Butler
You love when you're right.
- [39:52]
Pat McAfee
You love when you're right though, don't you?
- [39:55]
Dan Orlovsky
No doubt.
- [39:55]
Pat McAfee
You remember when I said this and it's like, Dan, how many other things you say that I don't know. I do remember. I don't know if you remember this. All right, let's talk about last night. Congrats to the Hoosiers. We're incredibly pumped to be in Indiana at the time. The Indiana Hoosiers football team is having a movie like once in a lifetime historic, generational type rebuild and run. On that note, the quarterback felt perfect for the head coach. Go ahead, Tone.
- [40:18]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, Dan, he. He did. And we have now seen Fernando three straight games with our own eyes and we've watched every single throw, not only on the field, but also on the sideline when he is worried. And the ball is never not a perfect spiral. And we've seen him make every throw. We've seen outs from the far hash. We've seen deep balls of Charlie Becker in routes, quick routes, whatever. Now there's a lot of. We think. We think Mendoza is a guy like that is what this show thinks. But there's a lot of people out there who say he shouldn't be the number one overall pick or he'd be the worst number one overall pick for a quarterback in a while. A lot of people, just because they run so much rpo, are downgrading him for that even though he does not call the plays. So I don't know if you hold that against him as well, but what are your thoughts as for as a Pro for Mendoza.
- [41:07]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, I thought it was the most impressive game of his college career. For me, when it comes to how he handled struggle, it wasn't flawless. It wasn't as easy or as dominant as it's been. This game was a little bit more representative of what life is like for quarterbacks in the NFL.
- [41:24]
Tone
It's.
- [41:24]
Dan Orlovsky
It's not just the easy process of you're up 21 nothing, and you can kind of coast. There was pressure. There was huge, pivotal, pivotal moments. There was having to make tough decisions or tough throws with the football. It was getting beat up physically and then obviously moments of having to be clutch and being at his absolute best when it was needed the most. And I think that would be the biggest takeaway. You know, I saw a video on the Internet pre game. I believe it was Mark Davis and Brady down there on the field. And I would just have to imagine. Go ahead.
- [41:55]
Pat McAfee
Spytech was there as well. I think it was Brady, Mark Spytek. I think it was the.
- [41:59]
Dan Orlovsky
I would have to imagine. Imagine just knowing a little bit about Tom. Like, I would imagine Tom was just watching all of the stuff most. Most intently outside of the actual play, of how he dealt with the. The good stuff, how he dealt with the bad stuff. What was his interaction with teammates, how he handled third downs? What was he like in the huddle? What was like. Was he like on the sideline? What was he like coming out of the huddle on that 4th and 5? Way back, shoulders back. Becker, just watching the body language and the mannerism, I think you had to fall in love with. And listen, there's something to be said for competitive fire. Obviously, the young man's talented, he's athletic, he's big, he's tall, he can spin it. But there is something about this unique, rare competitive fire that he has that allows him to be his best when it's needed the most. So I haven't studied these guys intently like I will as we lead up into the draft, but I think last night has to make you. If you were a little bit of a doubter, it has to make you look at him differently. Just because the way the game went.
- [43:05]
Pat McAfee
Dan, I think when you watch the film, it's only Gonna. This dude.
- [43:10]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [43:10]
Pat McAfee
65230 too. So that's. That's a whole other element. Andy can run. And you talk about his competitive fire. Dude's a nerd. Like this. This dude is a nerd, too. And he's out.
- [43:20]
Dan Orlovsky
He's a psychopath, it seems like.
- [43:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And he's out at 11 with the boys, too, you know, having beers. It's like the guy is seemingly, seemingly, he's, he's a football nerd, which is what we want. He loves the sport, loves showcasing that. He loves the sport. He, he in the Big Ten game. First play of the game.
- [43:38]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [43:38]
Pat McAfee
Kaden Curry, he gets upended, launching here, has the moment where all the air leaves his body. Thought maybe he had a fractured ribs. He leaves for the game. People think it's over for him potentially. Like, this guy's done for the game. Then he, like, puts the helmet back on, comes jogging out. And then he takes. Tells us no lie. He cracked me pretty good. No pause. I mean, that guy got me pretty good. But that's football. I like getting back up there. He's like, he takes pride in all the things that you would want your starting quarterback to take pride in. Hey, I have a relationship with my entire team. Hey, I want to be tough. Hey, I want to know everything the defense is doing. And, oh, yeah, his arm talent is elite. It's like, I think he's generational, personally, from watching him. I think he's a generational, like, quarterback. And Tom Brady. What did Tom Brady say whenever he sprinted down to the end zone before the games? What did he scream?
- [44:27]
Conman
He said, let's fudge and go.
- [44:29]
Pat McAfee
Okay. What did, what did old buddy say last night on the microphone? Fernando?
- [44:34]
Conman
He actually did drop a hard. Let's fucking go, boys. Yeah.
- [44:39]
Pat McAfee
And who was that? LFG is what, Tom's thing. Yeah, it's like, I mean, you're talking about, like, Tom probably sees a lot of himself, I assume, in Mendoza, whenever he watched him, got committed to ball, addicted to ball. But then also the other qualities that Tom doesn't have, it's like, this guy's a super nerd. Like, he is a, like, that is who he is as a person. It's like he's a weapon. I, I'm very, very. And obviously, the toughness is always on display. It's like, I, I, I think he's generational, Dan. I, I legitimately, yeah, yeah.
- [45:07]
Dan Orlovsky
I, I don't disagree. And I think, like, when you watch, the more the thing, the more you study the tape. But the thing that really stood out in the playoff front, it's kind of my favorite quality that a quarterback can have, or one of them is how fast their eyes are.
- [45:21]
Pat McAfee
Are.
- [45:21]
Dan Orlovsky
I thought his eyes were just crazy fast last night without, you know, getting out of control. We have some quarterbacks that, you know, they kind of see so many different Things, they're all over the place. But his eyes are quick. Repetition, understanding, processing. So that's going to be a huge thing, you know. I'll touch on Tone's question about the RPOs. Quarterbacks just run RPOs nowadays. I mean, Cam Ward ran a ton at Miami. He was the number one pick. Jackson Dart ran a ton at Ole Miss. You know, I think it's. It's still. You're. You're still reading defense defenders. Now, if he didn't have these back, shoulder down the field throws that require great timing, great trajectory and type of throw and then placement and then obviously just that. That run is competitiveness. So, yeah, I'm a fan. I'd also say this. You kind of have to have a couple screws loose to be the number one pick and start to flip a bad franchise. You can't be like everybody else. The guy that was, you know, the closest to doing it in a short period of time is a guy that we just has a couple screws loose. And Baker, I mean, just, he's got. He's. He's wired differently. I think this guy's got relatively unique wiring. And if you're going to go to the Raiders and get the Raiders good in a decent amount of time, you got to have just a. A couple screws or you got to be a little bit off because there's got to be a little bit of psychopath in you.
- [46:38]
Pat McAfee
The boys would immediately say Joe Burrow as well. Would be a great reference.
- [46:41]
Dan Orlovsky
Totally.
- [46:42]
Pat McAfee
Because also personalities.
- [46:43]
Conman
Yes. Yeah.
- [46:44]
Pat McAfee
You know, it is like, I really like Fernando. I really like. And then his story with his mom with Ms. It's like everything about him is like, this guy, should he be president, too? I don't fully comprehend. Loves ball. Teammates love him, which is sweet. Good luck to all of them. Now we got a couple new head coaches. Go ahead, D. Bud.
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Tone
Yeah, Dan. Oh. We had 10 head coach openings. Now four have been filled with Harbaugh, Stefanski, Halfley and Robert Sala. Now, what's your favorite hire that has happened and then what is the next hire that you see or that you will want to see for a team and a head coach?
- [47:20]
Dan Orlovsky
I think my favorite hire is Harbaugh to the Giants just because it brings them immediate expectations. A different culture overnight. You know, the Giants, before they hire Coach Harbaugh were. It was a losing culture. It was a losing organization. The minute they hire Coach Harbaugh, it automatically goes to. Well, it's now a winning culture. At least the guy that's Running the place now is in his blood, winning and then two, the expectations are they'll be competitive next year. I don't think that's a far fetch either. And so I love that hire. I love the fact that he's got a young quarterback that, you know, obviously certainly not in the talent level that Lamar Jackson had, but he's got the experience of having a young, dynamic, playmaking quarterback that you can kind of build around and try to win with. I still want to see who the offensive coordinator is because that's going to be a huge part. Todd Monkin's name has been thrown around, around. But, you know, we'll find out. But I, I love that. I think the second one is Kevin Stefanski. I have said this about Atlanta. I think Kevin Stefanski, if Kirk Cousins is there, they win 11 games next year. It's a very good offensive line. Offensively, they're as talented as, you know, the top 10 teams in the league. They've got a back Bajan that is as talented as anyone. Young defensive studs, pass rushers. And so I think Kevin Stefanski going to Atlanta is perfect. There is a question mark at quarterback. Michael Penix won because the lack of really development and then also the injury. You can't go into next year just thinking it's Penix. We'll see how healthy he is. To even get into the conversation, I would imagine there'll be a player for Kirk because it sounds like Kirk restructured his contract. They'll cut him, all that stuff. Shoot. I would tell you that they would be a prime place for me to see if they could trade for Mac Jones out of San Francisco. But we'll kind of see what, what the move at quarterback is. But I do like Stefanski there.
- [49:11]
Pat McAfee
Maybe Mac Jones wins back Atlanta a little bit. That was maybe you turned off by the decision. Bring Stefanski in there. Which leads me to this question. So we just think the DeSean Watson deal was the reason why Stefanski couldn't win in Cleveland. Or like Cleveland notoriously sucks. They get a quarterback that wins them a playoff game. Stefanski was a part of running him out of town. Right. Basically didn't get along with him. And then he doesn't win and then he gets a head coaching gig two days after he's fired from being a failed head coach at Cleveland. So everybody just kind of puts it on. Andrew Drew Barry has them in a bad DeSean Watson deal because then we see Sean Payton eating $700 million in cap space and going to the AFC and hosting the AFC championship game. So I think a lot of people are confused on how Stefanski is automatically just given a pass, as if he's a good head coach. Like, that was. That was kind of the surprise to me. I'm like, Stefanski is all of a sudden a guy we definitely want. Well, there's no other coaches out there. It's like, well, we know what he is, do we not? Or do we not know? What do you. So you think people are just blaming Cleveland for that one as a whole? Maybe even the city, the lake and everything like that? Or, or why do you think, like, I don't need.
- [50:17]
Dan Orlovsky
We've been over this. I don't need more enemies. I don't need more cities that hate me. I'll say Cleveland could. Yeah, I think he's a coach. I think when he's got competent quarterback play, he's one. I think when he had Baker and Joe, I think the record was like 26 and 16, something like that. And then one's like, well, what?
- [50:34]
Pat McAfee
He ran Baker out of town, man. Baker had a terrible shoulder and he had him throw what, 75 times or whatever.
- [50:40]
Conman
Kept taking Chubb off the field.
- [50:42]
Pat McAfee
Chubb was the best running back in the game. And it's like, then he runs Baker Mayfield out of town. Then they end up in what? Maybe not just him, maybe it was everybody. We don't know the behind the scenes story, but we do know that he threw the ball 60 times with Baker's shoulder publicly and clearly not good against the Pittsburgh Steelers defense. So, like, I think there was a lot of things like this doesn't seem like the right move. And Cleveland stinks still. Miles Garrett got a lot of sacks there, so maybe Stefanski is bringing that down there. I don't know how that's immediately just like the right play. And I think a lot of people in Atlanta question the same thing. Stefanski, coach of the year before. So maybe there's a chance he has great success. And I'm not just saying he can't do it, but it's like that guy just gets a head coaching job in the NFL. There's only 32 of these things. And, you know, it's just an interesting decision for me and Salah going to Tennessee. I like that move. I think. I think I like that move for Salah.
- [51:32]
Conman
I do, too.
- [51:32]
Dan Orlovsky
I do too. Yeah, I think Salah is a good coach. Who's going to be the offense coordinator. That's really the thing that matters the most. We all. It's like the, the Giants Harbs is a great hire. Will the success of the head coach in these places in New York and certainly in Tennessee is going to be almost solely dependent upon who's the offensive coordinator and where do they take that young quarterback developmental wise? I don't know if it's going to be Mike La Flor, I don't know if It'll be Mike McDaniel, I don't know if it'll be Matt Nagy. But I do know this Cam Ward is talented and Cam Ward had as many wow throws as any quarterback in football. You can make the case certainly the young ones. And I think this is a really interesting hire with Robert Salah, who I believe is a good coach and you know, had some stuff stacked against him in New York, is the offensive coordinator in Tennessee, cannot coach this special out of Cam Ward, but has to get the sloppy out of him because there is some mechanical like, hey dude, like we can't always shoot the three pointer. So there is some mechanical stuff that you want to clean up, but you can't coach the special out of him. And I think that's really important for the hire.
- [52:46]
Pat McAfee
I like Salah a lot. It looked like he found his smile again.
- [52:50]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [52:50]
Pat McAfee
Which was good. And then what happened to the jets after he left? I mean, he still don't have an interception. Nope, they still don't have an interception.
- [52:57]
Darius J. Butler
At least the defense was always good with him there. The offense was horrendous, but the defense was always good.
- [53:01]
Pat McAfee
And then the more stories we hear about behind the scenes, it's like, how did this guy. I don't know how you do anything there. So good luck to him. We're happy football is giving him another opportunity. Speaking of football giving another opportunity. A big one. Con man.
- [53:14]
Conman
Yeah. Dano, I would love to hear your thoughts. Not really, but I am going to ask you about him.
- [53:19]
Pat McAfee
Well, here's an opportunity to be a hater.
- [53:20]
Conman
Yeah, here you go. Basically just giving you a T ball. Sean Payton, Jared Stidham. I believe New England is own four in the playoffs on the road at Denver. So there are a of lot of things stacking up against the team that you hate more than anybody, the New England Patriots. What do you think Stidham and Sean Payton are cooking up right now and what is kind of your confidence level in them? It feels like Stidham could also, you know, we're talking about Atlanta Falcons needing a quarterback. He's got two games to maybe put on a show, perhaps be the quarterback of the future for a team. Yeah.
- [53:55]
Dan Orlovsky
My wife just laughed at something. You guys are on to the side while she's folding laundry. So I don't know what she laughed at in regards to what you said.
- [54:02]
Pat McAfee
But thank you, Mrs. Zorlovsky.
- [54:06]
Dan Orlovsky
Yeah, Boston. Connor said he hates you.
- [54:09]
Pat McAfee
No, he did not. That is propaganda. You can hear us right now. He doesn't think that. Oh, he's lying.
- [54:19]
Dan Orlovsky
It's not fun to twist someone's words, huh?
- [54:21]
Ty Schmidt
Wow.
- [54:22]
Conman
That's.
- [54:26]
Darius J. Butler
A joke. I like that.
- [54:27]
Conman
It's a joke.
- [54:28]
Dan Orlovsky
I was joking, babe.
- [54:30]
Ty Schmidt
It's downright.
- [54:36]
Pat McAfee
Oh, no. He's down in the dumps. Dino. Good lord. Oh, dumpy. Dano. Okay, sorry, sorry. We'll stop. We didn't say that and Connor didn't say that.
- [54:46]
Conman
Dan.
- [54:46]
Pat McAfee
O.
- [54:47]
Conman
And the O stands for ouch.
- [54:51]
Pat McAfee
And the O stands for oh, no.
- [54:54]
Tone
Dan.
- [54:55]
Pat McAfee
Oh, no. You got some tough times.
- [54:58]
Dan Orlovsky
You guys done?
- [54:59]
Pat McAfee
We're running out of time. If you would like to answer the stum question. It's a pretty big deal. It's the AFC championship and you're distracting and you guys.
- [55:05]
Conman
Dan, I think Dan, go yourself.
- [55:11]
Pat McAfee
Okay. How about that? Okay, that was. That was a good one. Go. Oh, maybe.
- [55:16]
Conman
Dan.
- [55:16]
Tone
No, he's laughing.
- [55:17]
Pat McAfee
We don't like it.
- [55:19]
Ty Schmidt
Boom.
- [55:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, there's a lot of those. Yeah. Dan. Fr y.
- [55:23]
Conman
Sure, sure.
- [55:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [55:25]
Conman
All right.
- [55:25]
Pat McAfee
Sorry. All right. We don't have enough time for your answer. Thank you so much, ladies and gentlemen. That was Dan Orlonski.
- [55:32]
Darius J. Butler
Got to clear the air.
- [55:33]
Tone
That was nice, Dan.
- [55:34]
Conman
Dope, maybe.
- [55:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. There's a lot of opportunity there with that O sound. He has a three front war he thinks going on. So that's interesting.
- [55:43]
Darius J. Butler
Definitely more he left out a bunch of cities.
- [55:45]
Tone
Bills Mafia probably loves him, though. Yeah, I mean, I'd assume.
- [55:48]
Pat McAfee
I assume they just don't kind of. That's the issue. This is what I've learned. Some of these fan bases, if you support them the whole time, like, I think they just kind of feel like they don't have to really support you. So then as soon as you go against other people, they're attacking you. But the people that you've supported not really going to the battlefield for you. So it's like, man, I'm not saying Bill's mafia is doing that for Dan. Oh, no, I got no support, Dan. No support. I'm not saying that. That's not. Dan. Do you have any of these. Any of these fans that you've Dan wagoned over the years going to be bat for you?
- [56:24]
Dan Orlovsky
I'm still on, dude.
- [56:27]
Pat McAfee
So now. Oh, no. You're not. Okay, that's Dan Roski. Thanks, Dan.
- [56:33]
Ty Schmidt
What are you talking about?
- [56:34]
Pat McAfee
Dan?
- [56:35]
Conman
Oh, I'm still on.
- [56:37]
Pat McAfee
What was he doing watching the show through his phone? We already know his wife's watching to the left. Dan, this is on you. This is your fault.
- [56:43]
Ty Schmidt
This guy's a jackass.
- [56:44]
Pat McAfee
But just know that. Dan. Dan. Oh, and he always for oblivious that he's potentially offending. Yeah, you know, he's just kind of.
- [56:52]
Conman
What?
- [56:53]
Ty Schmidt
I didn't say that. You twisted my words.
- [56:55]
Pat McAfee
I didn't mean that. At least in my brain, that's how. And Dan's a sweet boy, but boy, he's in the middle of it. Hour two on the other side.
- [57:04]
Tone
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Tone
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- [58:02]
Pat McAfee
Visit prizepix.com for restrictions and details.
- [58:05]
Darius J. Butler
Welcome back to.
- [58:07]
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah, that's a pepper thing. First up, we've got Harrison wrapping his.
- [58:11]
Darius J. Butler
Dr. Pepper in a tiny quilt so.
- [58:13]
Pat McAfee
It feels at home.
- [58:14]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, how tender.
- [58:15]
Pat McAfee
That's a pepper thing. And over to Becca, who's whispering affirmations to her can. You're sweet. You're unique. You're the best thing I ever poured over ice. She swears it makes it taste better. It's not a science thing, but it's a pepper thing. Why do they all do it all for that sweet, delicious, truly one of a kind. Taste of Dr. Pepper. It's a pepper thing.
- [58:38]
Coach B.A.
Football.
- [58:39]
Pat McAfee
He's the greatest. You know, the greatest college football team on earth Is the Indiana Hoosiers.
- [58:44]
Ty Schmidt
Hell yeah.
- [58:45]
Pat McAfee
Last night, the Indiana Hoosier football team representing the Big Ten Conference. The Big Ten becomes. I don't know how many conferences have done in the past. I'm going to say none. Three straight national championships with three different schools representing the Big Ten. Obviously the SEC has not had representative in the national championship and obviously hasn't had a national champion winner. And if you listen to coach Saban, that might not be changing for some time with the NIL and the transfer portal and the north having a lot of universities that have a lot of successful graduates who have a lot of money that would maybe like to see their sport do well. Just like the Indiana Hoosiers have 8006000 Active Living alumni from Indiana University schools. Not all of them coming through Bloomington, but the IU school system that is across the board. They have a lot of people that are very excited that they can finally say, yeah, we have a football team. All they've ever been able to talk about is how cool Bloomington is. Great town, great college town. I mean, it is a phenomenal college town. You know, a couple success stories coming out of their basketball team being great. Little five is one of the greatest celebrations and one of the greatest days on any campus across the entire country throughout the year. But now they get a chance to say, yeah, they, that's our school. And then they also get to say, oh, yeah, we're also doctors and lawyers and dentists and CEOs, CFOs, CMOs. Like, they have so many people that have been waiting for a moment to become loud about your Hoosier ness. And they certainly have answered the bell. The alumni, the donors have answered it. And Kurt Signetti has taken a screen school with no hope to the promised land. And that is. That's a beautiful thing that only sports can provide. And we're incredibly lucky that we're there and that we're in the sports world as a whole. Talks of tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt. Sweet hats today, boys.
- [60:39]
Conman
Thanks, man. Yeah, I just figured Rose bowl is.
- [60:41]
Pat McAfee
Where it all started.
- [60:42]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [60:42]
Conman
For Indiana on that note.
- [60:43]
Pat McAfee
Indiana Hoosiers, not just national champions, also Rose bowl champions and Peach bowl champions. And I think they have the best record against top five teams or something, or top 10 teams. Teams in the. In the history of college football champions. The Big Ten, Big Ten champions as well. I mean, they got all the bands, they literally got all the banners this year, so. That's right. That is a good hat to kind of represent for the IU squad most wins without a loss versus AP top 10. There it is. This is the IU team getting in there. 2019 LSU team.
- [61:12]
Darius J. Butler
That was a good team.
- [61:13]
Tone
We don't need to be comparing teams, all right? Let's just let everybody enjoy their run.
- [61:17]
Pat McAfee
Compared. I said last night on game day, you know, I'm the newest person on game day. And I just looked around and said just so matter of factly wearing that blue jacket, I was like, tonight we might watch the greatest college football team in the history of college football play and win a national championship for the first time ever. The amount of looks I got just There was probably 14 different teams that popped into so many different heads there. But if they would have beat Miami by 30 or 40.
- [61:46]
Conman
Exactly.
- [61:47]
Pat McAfee
I mean it would have been hard not to put that college football playoff resume up against any like, what are you talking about? Who are we even talking about? And then you go to the 2019 LSU team and you look at the final scores. I don't know how the games were because I think we were at the national championship. Whenever they played Clemson at halftime, I think it was a game. I think Joe Burrow maybe fractured a rib or something like that. So I think in the second half, I think I remember Joe hitting a couple deep ones down the right side and they end up turning that score around and one win him by a lot. But I think it was close against Clemson at that point. But you look at the final scores of this 2019 LSU team, they would have certainly been like, okay, still. Yeah, let's go ahead and still have that conversation. Nonetheless. Indiana, no. 5 stars, no team three years ago now being talked about Mount Rushmore College football team. It's a beautiful thing that only sports can provide honestly. And it is. It's cool thing that we got to witness from the sidelines.
- [62:40]
Conman
Yeah. Unbelievable. And kind of cool. Just looking at that LSU team transfer portal kind of made them too. Without Joe Burrow, without. And think about where the transfer portal is now in 2025 versus where it was in 2019 and then probably lost on there is like that Miami team 2001. Bingo.
- [62:56]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [62:56]
Conman
That had all those like that'll never probably get thrown in that list just because you just play one game and.
- [63:02]
Pat McAfee
And I just think of them as 35 year old met men.
- [63:05]
Conman
Exactly.
- [63:05]
Pat McAfee
Like even whenever they're playing, like I view them as that. So I'm like, how would the 35 year old team play against the 2019 LSU team or whatever. I think it would have been a dog fight.
- [63:15]
Tone
Well, I. I think there's no transfer report either, baby.
- [63:18]
Conman
Well, I mean we're not even. We're not even bringing up the 19 or. Excuse me. 1894 yield bulldogs. Yeah, I mean before that.
- [63:24]
Pat McAfee
They're unbelievable.
- [63:25]
Conman
Before the legal forward pass. I mean I think their point differential was like 2500.
- [63:29]
Pat McAfee
You should have seen him at rugby too. Nobody talks about that. They were undefeated in Russia up, boom. It wasn't just major college football.
- [63:35]
Darius J. Butler
72.
- [63:37]
Tone
Yeah.
- [63:37]
Pat McAfee
1894. Oh, no, I was that before. I mean that's before the five yard grids. That's.
- [63:43]
Conman
I mean that's before both World War.
- [63:45]
Darius J. Butler
Columbus was their quarterback.
- [63:47]
Ty Schmidt
Chris.
- [63:48]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [63:49]
Pat McAfee
He's got high school down there in Miami.
- [63:52]
Darius J. Butler
He was a hero in our house.
- [63:53]
Conman
He left Yale actually and started that high school in Miami.
- [63:57]
Pat McAfee
He's good value. Yeah.
- [63:58]
Darius J. Butler
Okay. He's a hero in our house.
- [64:00]
Pat McAfee
He had great high school down there in Miami. Darius J. Butlers here. Little colder than I expected in Miami, Chili.
- [64:07]
Tone
It's back about years now. It's been chilly. Exactly.
- [64:10]
Darius J. Butler
Temperature actually.
- [64:11]
Pat McAfee
I see you're wearing your Nike tech right there. I've seen that.
- [64:15]
Tone
Very, very chilly out here today. So I had this. It is yours actually. Thanks.
- [64:20]
Conman
Appreciate it.
- [64:21]
Darius J. Butler
Tell you what, getting off a plane from Florida and hitting minus 10 last night, that'll smack you right a. M.
- [64:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's how you getting off the bus in Florida and it not being hot. That was a smack in the mouth. That was a tank top. I'm in Florida, sunglasses, Miami, it's noon. Can't wait to get off this bus right now. Walk out. Oh my God. It's a moist, chilly air that's blowing through there. This is not how Miami's supposed to be. It was good for football though. That was a perfect atmosphere. It was. I mean it was a perfect football game. Wasn't too hot. Didn't feel like it was a resort football game, like a. Like a vacation football game. Did not feel like that at all. Wasn't too cold, that it was uncomfortable for anybody. Felt like it was a perfect football night. It genuinely did. I don't think the field. A couple people slipped, but I don't think it was too bad. Refs, obviously there's a couple calls where we're like, you didn't call, but you did call. I think that's going to happen in game. I don't think they made themselves the story of the game, which I respect. I think it was a great game.
- [65:19]
Tone
Yeah, it was.
- [65:20]
Pat McAfee
I think last night was a great football.
- [65:21]
Darius J. Butler
That's A loud stadium, too.
- [65:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they got the last year we.
- [65:24]
Darius J. Butler
Talked about it when it was Notre Dame and Penn State, we were like, that was really loud in there. And last night was very, very loud because those overhangs keep in all the noise.
- [65:31]
Pat McAfee
Joining us now is a man who's kind of watched the dawn of a new day in the Big Ten three different times over the last three years. But this one might be a B turned to a C. This man might be a member of the SIG 10, ladies and gentlemen. He's an Ohio State hall of Famer. He is former president of Ohio. He's a college football national champion, super. Super bowl champion, all time leading tackler for the Green Bay packers, ladies and gentlemen. AJ yeah. Sig 10 champs win it all, baby. Three different Sig 10 teams win in three straight years. That's good news, H. That's good news for all parties up there. Rising tides.
- [66:08]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, of course, it's great news for the Big Ten, for Indiana, and you guys hit it like it's a. Sorry, is my audio gone?
- [66:13]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it sounds like.
- [66:14]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, for a second or two there, but you're back.
- [66:16]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, everything's going on me. I can't hear anything. But it was storybook ending, like you said. Storybook season.
- [66:21]
Pat McAfee
We can't hear you. You're cutting off there. Gotten out there.
- [66:24]
Tone
Damn.
- [66:25]
Pat McAfee
Hold on. Let's see.
- [66:26]
AJ Hawk
How is it? Still pretty bad. So, I mean, I know what you're doing. I know you're just a bit. Now you can probably hear me. I'm just saying I can't. I'm not sure who.
- [66:34]
Pat McAfee
How you know that.
- [66:35]
AJ Hawk
My audio.
- [66:36]
Pat McAfee
Did I not sell it? I thought I felt like I. No, cuz I know. I mean, my.
- [66:39]
AJ Hawk
My initial default is you're messing with me, but I still can't hear myself, so I'm not really sure.
- [66:44]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So Guppy's getting. I thought I sold it pretty good there. Honestly, I thought I had him. I thought we had him for the first time in what, a couple years?
- [66:51]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it's been a while.
- [66:52]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God.
- [66:53]
Darius J. Butler
He might be a little tired, know.
- [66:55]
Tone
Maybe we'll get him.
- [66:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I can't believe you sniffed that out so quick. I mean, that's unbelievable.
- [66:59]
AJ Hawk
It's pretty obvious. It's pretty obvious from your end when you know, oh, yeah, you look good. Now. How it was, how you looked at the camera, that's what made me.
- [67:05]
Pat McAfee
Well, I was looking off camera. I was looking back. See if we could maybe, you know, do some buttons.
- [67:09]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [67:09]
Pat McAfee
Fix it to figure the whole there's some buttons. Yeah, yeah. That's what I was trying to do. That's what I was selling. Obviously, I got work on that. Don't you worry. I'm gonna get you good. I'm get you good. I'm gonna get you someday. But you're about to tell a story. I think about football as a whole, maybe before your audio got throttled, because the Indiana story is so fantastic.
- [67:28]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, I don't know if I was about to tell a story, but I think you definitely hit it like it's a storybook season for them. The Fact they go 160 when you know how difficult it is to do that. We say this every year we go to the college football playoffs. We're thinking like, this is an absolute gauntlet to run the table and to win it all. It is such a crazy, difficult thing to do after a long regular season. So, yeah, crazy credit to Sig and the Indiana Hoosiers. I don't think they're slowing down anytime soon.
- [67:52]
Pat McAfee
The way they play and you watch it and obviously, I mean, standing in between AJ And D Butt, especially whenever it gets down close to us. D Butt KNEW There was 12 men on the field for Miami before. Way before Miami did. I mean, literally, as soon as they get lined up, dbut starts pointing at a guy, and then he starts doing the math. He's like, those two guys are definitely not supposed to be standing right there next to each other. Somebody's got to notice this. And then timeout comes and Deebot goes into. I think there's 12 on the field. And it obviously there was then AJ starts like, you know, because he's viewing it as a linebacker. So whenever it's down there, you literally see him moving things. What did Indiana do so well, you think from the defensive perspective now, obviously they get to pick the change it. Carson Beck makes some play, they give up the explosive run. I'm not saying negatively what happened to them, but what have you seen from us standing where we are standing, how this Bryant Haynes led defense is so good and so fundamentally sound, is seemingly the only way I can describe it. But what does that mean? You think from what, watching it yourself?
- [68:47]
AJ Hawk
Yeah. So, like, on the sidelines before the game, I saw Trent Green standing there and I went up and talked to Trent because I love him, he's a great dude. And I was telling him, like, I'm asking him about the game and how. How he thinks it's going to go and all that he loves Sig and everything they're doing, but I was telling him, I'm like, I'm like watching from the end zone, I'm like a football nerd when it comes to proper leverage and gap integrity and all of that stuff. And Indiana has that at all times. Like, hey, if you're supposed to be the outside piece, this dude is setting the edge. He's the outside piece. And you got 10 dudes run inside out with proper angles. But the cool thing is like they're coming with bad intentions. Like Deba says, they're trying to staple dudes to the ground. They're having four, five, six guys hit the ball carrier every single time. Like they're just relentless. And I think when you couple that with like the skies, that they're able to do pre snap. And then what I like too is like when they're playing a lot of zone coverage, they have their eyes on the quarterback, they're breaking on the ball like nothing's easy against that Indiana defense. And credit to Miami because they were in it, they had a chance to do. But Indiana, man, what a back and forth game. And for them to be able to come away victorious was, yeah, just the, the stamp on an absolute special season.
- [69:51]
Pat McAfee
Pick from the nephew of the Sharp who got the pass interference call for Miami against your Ohio State team. Gets the game national championship ceiling interception from Carson Beck. Felt like this was just a miscommunication. The way D. Butt described it. He says Marion doesn't think he's getting his ball because he's all by himself over there. And they got three guys on that side of the field with a safety over top. There's no way I'm going to be the selection.
- [70:17]
Tone
Yeah, you can see it from this angle right here. He just looks at that safety, knowing the half field safety. By the time he looks back, it's obviously too late. The ball's already in the air. I don't think he ever thought he was going to be the target in that progression. But yeah, like AJ Said, that was a perfect example of just veteran players, smart players, zone coverage all the way. You don't have another threat in the flat holding you up there. Eyes on the quarterback. And if he doesn't make a point, perfect throw, you make him pay for it and you end the game. So just a tremendous job. Everything AJ Said, it was a handful of plays where when you're playing great players, they're going to make plays. Malachi, Tony, he's going to make big plays. Mark Edwards Jr. The long, I mean Mark F.L. fletcher Jr. The long run to the Edge. The touchdown run, that was his big play. But outside of that, they kept everything in front of him. They tackled well. And then that huge turnover. The block too by Kamara, who's a starter. We saw that happening like in slow motion. It felt like right in front of of us like, hold on, are they going to block this guy? And that was obviously a game changing play as well. But yeah, it was a back and forth game. Miami fault. But Indiana was just, you know, the better team.
- [71:15]
Pat McAfee
And Kamara selling out on special teams. Charlie Becker, their wide receiver, rolls ankle on special teams. It's like whenever you start judging the culture, it's like, well, how do they go on plays that don't matter? You know, this could have easily just been fair catch. Let's go ahead and send this down, get our Heisman back on the field instead tomorrow. I saw it as an opportunity. Opportunity ducked, ripped and then gets to the block point. Normally for punts you go down. Okay, you try to go down, he goes up and like through and it's one of the purest blocks I've seen. And then Isaiah Jones able to jump on it. He dropped a pick like two plays before that. Now granted it would have been an insane pick, but he's also full effort to be back there. Like the amount of effort you got to get through your guy and then the shield to get to end zone that quickly, like that's full sellout by him as well. Even the he didn't block it. It's like everything seemingly was showcased about the Indiana culture last night in multiple different situations. The resiliency, the talent, the toughness, the, the football iq. And here the effort like this is just strictly effort being made by an incredibly talented player. And remember Kamar rolled his ankle last week in a beach bowl battle. Yeah, he was off the thing, so it's like unbelievable. And all three phases to watch them do their thing.
- [72:27]
Conman
And it kind of shows you like the depth they still don't have for Indiana. Like they still have their start and D line on, you know, punt like, or punt return rather. Like, can you imagine when you know, this is this time next year and they have all these guys who are now going to Indiana. Like, I don't know the exact numbers, but I do know they got basically, you know, half of the great players in the transfer portal. Like you now wonder how many guys are going to end up, you know, joining or flip flipping commitments to iu and then, you know, they might have four or five stars on their, you know, punt and punt return. And that was kind of the last two years. The big difference, especially when they played Ohio State and Caleb Downs had that punt return.
- [73:07]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. Numbers wise, the first year, they brought in 31 transfers. Thirteen of them were from JMU. And then coming into this season, they had 23 guys from the truck transfer portal from last season. And then this transfer portal period here the last few weeks, they only brought in 17 this year. So it's like, hey, we needed to. We needed to flip it. We did. We're going to bring in less every single year. They're getting better recruits now, things like that. So, yeah, it's kind of like they. They have their guys there now, so they don't have to go shopping, per se, as much in the portal.
- [73:36]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And Coach Saban brought this up on game day. He said he was impressed by the fact that Signetti was able to turn Indiana into a place where he's now gonna have to change the way he motivates. So for a long time, you know, we're misfits. We were replaced, kicked out. Whatever the case at our old school, we want to come here and prove something. Indiana's never done it. We would like to come here, improve something together. Now it's like everybody's coming there for, like, what can Indiana do for me? Like, how is that whole thing? So the way Sig is gonna have to evolve in his messaging, I think he'll be able to figure out. He seemingly has a great sense of what needs to be said, when to it needs. Needs to be said. We can air this out now. We got a chance to talk to Sig before we called the Rose bowl. And after the Heisman ceremony, there was a little bit of something they had to push back, a meeting or something because of weather or something like that. And he said, I laid into him real good. It was the meanest I've ever been to these guys. Is that not basically word for word what he said? I forget how he laid it out.
- [74:33]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I think he said something to the effect of like.
- [74:35]
Pat McAfee
And I got in there ass horse.
- [74:36]
Ty Schmidt
Enough I ever have. Yeah, it was bad. Yeah. Everyone telling them how good they are. I had to come in real quick. And, yeah, I was mean to him.
- [74:43]
Pat McAfee
Real mean. He said, heisman winner. They're celebrating the Heisman. These guys getting smoke blown up their ass by literally everyone. He said I was the meanest I've ever been to him. And you can tell, like, he didn't want to be right. Really likes the crew.
- [74:55]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [74:55]
Pat McAfee
But it's like he has A great sense for what's needed when. And we talk about those timeouts. We have multiple videos. Bruce, great job with all the videos. Fall Foxy Bill with the photos. I mean, Foss getting all the. I mean, thank you to everybody that goes into the entire field. Ben Ward, Dish, you know, you know, Miss Sarah Hair, the camera crews, the. Like. There's so many people that are awesome during those field passes. We appreciate. But it's like, when you think about, like, I don't know, Signetti's just such a special individual man.
- [75:25]
Conman
Oh, yeah.
- [75:25]
Pat McAfee
Because whenever you watch him, you have no idea what he's doing. And at any time, you have no idea what he's doing anytime. There's so many memes coming out. Like the guy that said, when I'm 260 out or something, and I'm telling clear the green, you know, because I'm going for it, and I skull 120 yards. It's like, it fits perfectly. But what is he actually doing in that moment, you know, like, well, he's looking for a line scrimmage. It's like, is he. Because that's not where the ball was. He might have been just looking at some deep tackle that he thought, oh, there's a little bit of negative energy coming out of that guy. We got to start the attacking that guy. You never know what he's doing when the timeouts are happening. You talk about him empowering his coaches to do the coaching. It's like he's standing outside of that thing like this, looking away from his huddle to seemingly anything we have. Not necessarily the other team, not necessarily the refs, not necessarily his crowd, not necessarily their crowd. I have no idea what he's doing. We still don't necessarily know what he's doing, but coming out the of one of those, he made a decision. We're not kicking a field goal. We're going for this thing, you know, and we got to change the way we're doing this right now. They get an interception, it's like. Feels like his mind is just always cooking for, like, what do we need right now? How do we go about doing this? And he's always in character because I think that's just who he is. He was put on his earth to be this. I think so. Like, I'm excited to watch him navigate all these new steps. More donor money than ever now. Cody Campbell at Texas Tech, they're going to have more than everybody. Oregon going to have a lot. Texas, Texas, other Texas in Texas. I think the schools in Texas A and M. Texas, Texas Tech, they got a lot of football people who have access to a lot of money, but Indiana, not like that yet. Okay. I think a lot of. And Kurt Signetti came out and said that, like, a lot of people think we're a lot different than we are in the nil because we've done so well. But the reason why he's had to hit on everybody is because he's been able to make use of all the money that he's been given. That money is only going to amplify. That money is only going to go up, and it's like he's going to just keep. I'm, I'm very excited for this run that he has because I know he's older, but he still has a lot of time to build an incredible legacy as a college football head coach.
- [77:31]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. No disrespect to, you know, Joey McGuire or Elko or any of those guys, because they're fantastic coaches, but if Indiana is in the, the same, even just, like, ballpark, like, not, not, you know, saying they have as much money as Texas Tech or anything like that, but if they, and they clearly do, like, they have resources, they have people who now are going to want to continue, continue to give money to the program. He's the best coach in America. Like, and this might be recency bias because we've been, you know, following them, obviously. We live in Indiana. I'm a Big Ten graduate, so, like, I, I, I'm, I'm very aware of what they're doing week in and week out. I don't think it's particularly close. I really don't like you. Look, it's just, it's, it's still. We watched this whole thing, and you, you kind of saw it coming. We were saying going into the game, like, I feel like Indiana is going to win by four touchdowns, but even after the game, it's just like, holy. Like, this guy actually did this, like.
- [78:27]
Pat McAfee
Shout out to Miami, by the way.
- [78:28]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [78:29]
Pat McAfee
Once again, fight. Fight.
- [78:30]
Ty Schmidt
Absolutely.
- [78:30]
Pat McAfee
Because we watch them make people quit.
- [78:32]
Ty Schmidt
Right.
- [78:32]
Pat McAfee
Because it was just annoying. Everything was annoying. Their defense is, Defense is annoying every single snap. Your, your technique has to be perfect or they're going to make you quit. They made Alabama quit.
- [78:43]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [78:43]
Pat McAfee
They made Oregon think about not playing football anymore.
- [78:46]
Ty Schmidt
Right.
- [78:46]
Pat McAfee
Like, it was. That is how relentless they were as a team with what they were. So it's like, is that going to happen in Miami? It's like, maybe we, we maybe. And then Miami just didn't. They just continued to battle. And I think it's because this thing Studs, they had. I mean, Bane and Mezador, I don't.
- [79:03]
AJ Hawk
Think those guys are unbelievable. Like, we've got to see all their clouds. Football, playoff games. Watching them, the dip and rip and the power that they have on the edge. Like, that has to put so much fear in every single offensive coordinator. Like, all right, how do we handle these guys?
- [79:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Torre.
- [79:20]
AJ Hawk
Are you kidding me? Like, everybody on that defense hits. They all hit, too.
- [79:23]
Pat McAfee
Torre had a pass breakup. I think if. If my memory serves me right. Right. It's like they have dogs down there across the board now, of course. Mesador, Jacoby, I mean, this is clearly a. I don't know. Signetti says the holy road going in halftime. They got three personal foul hits against our quarterback in one drive. I know they're going to let him play, but at some point you got to. These are black and white penalties at this point. Like, I can't do that. Like, let them play. I get it. But that is not. I saw a lot in football. So, like, you got to figure that out. Big 12 reps did let him play.
- [79:55]
Tone
Play.
- [79:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they'd let him play. And we knew that was good for Miami because there was three possible ejections in the first half from Miami, but instead it was, let's go football, boys. Yeah. Get up, Ando. Spitting blood last night, big time.
- [80:11]
Tone
Oh, yeah.
- [80:11]
Pat McAfee
Bruised arms, spitting blood. Who knows what happened. Internal organs during this one because he gets hit like three times through the entirety and he's at 11 with the boys. I'm telling you. I think he's generational, too.
- [80:24]
Tone
Probably had a good time.
- [80:25]
Darius J. Butler
I assume so.
- [80:26]
Tone
Oh, yeah, we all. Hey, this. This next step, though, for the program, obviously for Coach Zig, is like the cliche we always hear, usually for players. Hey, how do you handle success? Like, how do you handle this new level of success? How do you handle now being that destination? Handle the team with the target on their back as opposed to, you know, the team that. Okay, it's a great story. They got some. Something special growing in Bloomington, but now actually being a powerhouse going into the se. What's their odds next year? Tone? Going into next season, they are co.
- [80:54]
Darius J. Butler
Favorites to win the national championship at plus 700 with the Ohio State Buckeyes.
- [80:59]
Pat McAfee
The Indiana Hooers.
- [81:00]
Tone
Insane.
- [81:00]
Pat McAfee
The Indiana Hoosiers.
- [81:02]
Tone
Like, how do you. How do you handle that? So that. I mean, we all think. I think as well, because Ty said it and we're all on the same page with Sig is Doing the best job, the best coaching job we've seen in America in college sports. And usually usually you judge a coach based on what they do with the level of talent that they have and it's the level of talent. Obviously he has his own evaluation process which is unbelievable. But from the outside looking in, from the 30,000 foot view, you say okay, five star, he's 6, 4, 2, 10, he runs 4, 3, he's 6, 5, 3, 20, he can bench press 500 pounds. So you know these guys are going to be the five and the four stars. You got more of those. So if you got a coach with no five stars and been said a thousand times, and to go out there and have a 16 and 0 seasons to step up to the challenge every time, every step along the way, it's going to be, it's going to be unbelievable to see how this continues to grow.
- [81:50]
Pat McAfee
Last thing here about coach Sig in this particular conversation. He called his shot. Yeah, take, hey look, I'm super fired up about this opportunity. Back street to anybody and don't plan on starting out. I mean you talk about that moment and then his quoted his press conference is there is no reason why we can't be successful, pack the stadium and be a source of pride to the entire university and town and state of Indiana, Town of Bloomington, state of Indiana. Let me clarify that. He said in this thing we're going to change the culture, the mindset, the expectation level and improve the brand of Indiana Hoosier football. There will be no self imposed limitations on what we can accomplish. My business averages the enemy and to be great, you've got to have special focus, special commitment, special preparation and discipline in the ability to say no to some things. I'm a little old fashioned. I'll look at the high school transcript and see how many absences a guy has. We want good students who have strong habits because it's all about choices and decisions. I've never really looked at stars ever. Honestly, it's kind of like I get so focused in on certain things like in this particular case, evaluation. I guess these stars have been around for a long time. I have never ever looked at a star. There's going to be people in this conference that probably have more resources than we do, but that's not detrimental. You've got to take the right kind of guys. You got to develop them and form the intangibles on your football team. That was coach Sig during his opening press conference a little under two years ago. Ty Schmidt, you said it on the plane that might be the greatest called shot in sports history. Babe Ruth, I guess, right?
- [83:54]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [83:54]
Pat McAfee
But I don't know if we witnessed that in real time and this many hundreds of millions probably pour into a place because of it.
- [84:01]
Ty Schmidt
No, I mean that I think Babe Ruth, you know, even as a Yankees fan, like, that's largely. That's kind of been, you know, made into something much more than what it probably actually was. Yeah, I know. I hate to break you guys hearts, but I think that might be the case. I think that might be a load of horseshit. He probably did something in that ballpark. But that's the. That's the thing with Sig too, is like not only having the nuts to do that, but he.
- [84:24]
Dan Orlovsky
He's not.
- [84:24]
Ty Schmidt
He wasn't even going to a program that like had success in the 80s and hadn't been good for 10 years. So people could actually maybe see it in their mind's eye, you know, like, oh, yeah, yeah, we were great in the, like in Nebraska or something like that, you know, who won all these national championships in the mid-90s to the late-90s and then have been dormant for a while. And then, you know, it's like, hey, we're going to get back to where we were. Indiana's never been worth a. Ever. They. They have sucked since the 1900, like early 1900s, since they've been been around. And in this day and age, like, we know how that goes. If he comes in and says all that stuff at that basketball game and they. And they go 2 and 10. His first year. The memes, everyone on every TV show, radio show, this guy's a. Like, what. What is this guy exactly? He's getting. He is getting killed and buried before he ever has a chance to do anything. And yeah, they won the national championship this year. It took him one year to turn it around. It took him one year. Like, it's just. It's. It's insane. And yeah, I don't like, you know, now it's going to be, hey, how do you, like, you're talking about the. The experiments to like the, you know, all that to find out how SIG has done this. Like, this guy is one of one. There is no one like him. I think that's pretty clear. Like, he just. No. No one else would have done that. And then actually two years later, here we are. They just went 16 and. Oh, and they won a national champion.
- [85:50]
Pat McAfee
I appreciate that he chose. I'm gonna go talk some out here. Yeah, like, nobody ever does. Everybody does the what's the right thing to say? We're gonna work hard. We're gonna represent IU in a way that's gonna make you all proud.
- [86:02]
Tone
Coach.
- [86:02]
Pat McAfee
And whenever we come out, we're gonna have the Hoosiers faithful behind us. You're the best students and the best fans in the entire country, and we're gonna try to earn your faith, manhood. Thank you so much. Like, that is. I think I just wrote a script for somebody that just got hired to doing the basketball thing. Right there. Or I read it. I apologize there for doing that. Him just getting a sense. Once again, this is him getting, like, having an incredible feel for, like, what needs to be done at a time. In this particular world, I don't know how he'd be with computers. I have no idea. And all this stuff, but in this particular world, it feels like he has, like, an actual. Actual sixth sense where he's like, this is what needs to happen right now. Look at. Who do they. Who do we hate the most? Who do we hate the most out here? Oh, everybody hates everybody. Ha. Okay. Got it. Thank you.
- [86:48]
Tone
Actually, you know what?
- [86:48]
Pat McAfee
Them all. That's where we're coming from. Okay. Okay. Sweet, sweet, sweet. So we hate Purdue is who we hate. Yeah. Okay. If I lose him, you know where we're headed. Purdue sucks. And everybody. It's like, all right, I kind of like that. That a little bit. And I've been. I was telling them, yeah, Michigan sucks, too. So's a high state. Good. Are you. It's like, choosing that angle is awesome.
- [87:16]
Conman
Yeah.
- [87:17]
Pat McAfee
Like, it is awesome. But putting that much public pressure on yourself almost forces you to have to show up and do it if you're a type of person, as opposed to just a troll. So I think, like, Sig was doing that to not only get his own people to buy in, but also like a. All right, now what are you going to do, big boy? Yeah, what are you going to do with the whole world? And all he did was work his ass off.
- [87:36]
Tone
He could have sucked, too, and nobody would have cared. Everybody would expect.
- [87:39]
Pat McAfee
Oh, right.
- [87:40]
Tone
Whatever. It would have been. It been a story.
- [87:42]
Coach B.A.
Where.
- [87:43]
Pat McAfee
Where in the Sun Belt. Where would he have headed to? Back to, you know, because he was a J. This would be a. He went down there to Florida. Where was he at? Louisiana.
- [87:52]
Conman
Monroe.
- [87:53]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, Bill Napier.
- [87:54]
Pat McAfee
Napier, yeah. Just goes back to jmu. I think he's a jam.
- [87:56]
Ty Schmidt
He is. He is.
- [87:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So that would be the signetti pass. You remember the Pittsburgh Ginzer?
- [88:03]
Conman
Good try.
- [88:04]
Ty Schmidt
Stuck in the big ten.
- [88:05]
Pat McAfee
Producer yeah, we just got him back down here in Louisiana Monroe. He'll be unbelievable. Like, that's what it would have been. Yeah, we've seen it a thousand times. Not talking to everybody, but, like, just going up there, doing the speech, sucking up there, then going back down. Hey, he's a good ball coach where he's supposed to be, you know? And it's like him, man, what a story to the top.
- [88:25]
Tone
Ohio State. State wins it. And then he goes out and wins it. Like, that's. And then the. I don't know if you saw. You probably did see the. In that same gym and the same. But assembly hall. Right. They had your video up there playing with the Watch party. That was pretty sick, too.
- [88:38]
Pat McAfee
Hey, that was.
- [88:38]
Tone
That was dope. You fast flash forward from that moment to that moment with them all being in that same gym watching. That's pretty. Pretty dope.
- [88:46]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And also, if you think about what that stadium was, his first day, they filled this assembly hall up. Let alone her was getting numbers. He was saying them on the show. So if you, like, he got it from very good authority. Yeah, he could turn this up. He's pretty sick, actually. Thank him for sending this video. As I was flying down there, they were so damn timeless. And then, obviously, when we talk about President Pam Whiton in Indiana.
- [89:19]
Coach B.A.
You.
- [89:19]
Pat McAfee
Hey, I'm calling you. I know it's a big deal around here. That's sick, though. Think he. That all was built in the last two years, you know, and all you need is just a little spark, man. It feels like that's all you need is just like, a little spark. And then whenever you catch it, it can run. And it feels like they've captured it down there in Bloomington, and it's been fun to be a part of the ride. I mean, we knew. Obviously, we knew Sig from JMU when he came on our show and said, the NCAA sucks.
- [89:51]
Darius J. Butler
We're like, that guy's awesome.
- [89:52]
Pat McAfee
Yes. This guy's from Pittsburgh, played football at West Virginia. It's like, all right, I immediately. Paison. I immediately love you. And then just getting right up on that stage. Do we like the NCAA to 20,000 people just looks at the camera. They're the ones in charge right now. At that point, it's like, we love you, dude. You are not like anything we've ever seen before. And then he gets hired at Indiana, an hour south of where we're at. And it's like one of the first texts I assume that he sends. He's like, can't wait to get to Indiana for us to see you boys or something like that. You need to come down to the house. It's like immediately, it's like, holy hell, what a lucky ride. We've got to witness our South.
- [90:33]
Tone
Who can do. Who can come and do that for us? Ricochets. If they could do it for who?
- [90:38]
Coach B.A.
Ah.
- [90:39]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [90:39]
Tone
Two years.
- [90:41]
Darius J. Butler
How you like your guys?
- [90:42]
Tone
We made a Super Bowl.
- [90:43]
Darius J. Butler
You like your guys?
- [90:45]
Tone
Possible, right?
- [90:46]
Ty Schmidt
Give Sig $100 million a year.
- [90:48]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [90:49]
Darius J. Butler
He's a college guy.
- [90:50]
Pat McAfee
Who's doing that? You talking about the Colts right now?
- [90:52]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [90:53]
AJ Hawk
Hey, they could find it.
- [90:54]
Ty Schmidt
You want to win a Super bowl, pony up. How much. How much are the colts worth?
- [90:57]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [90:57]
Conman
10% of the team.
- [90:58]
Ty Schmidt
Billions and billions of dollars. Give sig, you know, seven years, $700 million.
- [91:04]
Tone
That probably gets done.
- [91:05]
Ty Schmidt
And then let him do whatever he wants to do.
- [91:08]
Darius J. Butler
He needs the money.
- [91:09]
Ty Schmidt
And he can stay in Bloomington. He can come up like twice a week. He's got a great house.
- [91:15]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [91:16]
Darius J. Butler
He could do both game. He could both do both teams, coach both of them.
- [91:18]
Pat McAfee
He's got a putting green.
- [91:19]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
- [91:20]
Pat McAfee
I heard they Just because he won an addie new addition. Yeah. He's got amen corner down here.
- [91:24]
Darius J. Butler
He's put in a new grotto. A beautiful. A beautiful rock structure on the pool, the wine cellar.
- [91:29]
Pat McAfee
Oh, down there. I mean, I'm telling you, Bloomington. The things he can buy down there with the money he's got getting paid and how everybody loves him. He's having. He's a statue now forever.
- [91:40]
Conman
Yes, no doubt.
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Pat McAfee
Stat Got in that town forever. It's like that.
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Ty Schmidt
They should commission that today.
- [91:45]
Pat McAfee
He might be able to get, like, if he really wanted to, he could get that all. Every building on in that shot right there could potentially be named Signetti, something Kilroy's on Kirkwood. Brought to you by Kurt Signetti in that town. It's like his family, too. His wife, she is, like, beloved by everybody down there. It's like he is quick, quickly become, I guess, like, Saban is in Alabama, Sig is in Bloomington, which is why he said, I'm not Anfield. I'm a college football guy. And I was asked by Dr. Pam Whitner, President, if I wanted to go look at any of these other jobs. I said no. They said, you want to do a deal? Sure. Talks to a lawyer. I come on your show, Pat, and I sign it the next day. I'm here for another nine years, and I guess in the negotiation, they're going to pay me while everybody Else is getting paid Forever Escalator.
- [92:32]
Darius J. Butler
If I win it all, I get even more money.
- [92:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they told me, win more games, get more money. You got it. I need another putting green. Need another couple cold tubs.
- [92:41]
Ty Schmidt
It's a new Pac man machine I'd like to put in my game room.
- [92:45]
Pat McAfee
Throwback, little nostalgia piece.
- [92:48]
Darius J. Butler
I got a room for all my cured meats, too.
- [92:50]
Pat McAfee
What if he gets a cruise in USA oh, boy, that would be amazing. That would be absolutely amazing.
- [92:57]
AJ Hawk
Imagine playing him in Crazy Cruising usa. You and him paint.
- [93:03]
Pat McAfee
I'm getting a thick. I'm getting a little bit of a. A meteor car for that. That particular match. Because he is going to try. Oh, yeah, yeah. You can't be doing a sports car or a motorcycle for that. You gotta.
- [93:14]
Conman
He might be. He might be anticipating that, though, like. Oh, he thinks I'm gonna.
- [93:18]
Pat McAfee
Do you think he's double hitting that thing? Flipping every.
- [93:21]
Conman
Yes.
- [93:22]
Pat McAfee
Every time.
- [93:22]
Ty Schmidt
Watch this.
- [93:23]
Conman
Watch this.
- [93:25]
Darius J. Butler
Hitting all the animals.
- [93:30]
Pat McAfee
Shortcuts. Where are you going? Through the bushes.
- [93:33]
Conman
Don't worry.
- [93:34]
Pat McAfee
This is your first time. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who would tell us a little bit more about this coach's life and kind of how the coaches are kind of viewing what Signetti has been able to do. A man who coached football for 47 years. Ladies and gentlemen, our friend, Coach BA.
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Coach B.A.
Coach.
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Pat McAfee
Coach, you heard us do a lot of convo about Coach Signetti. What are your thoughts on what he's been able to do? Football is non existent. I mean, non existent. In Bloomington for so long, not even a shred of hope. And now, now they're the national champs. Not only do they fill up every stadium, they play through the College Football Playoff, they're also filling up their basketball arena just to watch along. It's a special thing what football can do, but he's been able to accomplish it. What are your thoughts on him, B.A. and why do you think he is who he is?
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Coach B.A.
Yeah, I think it's fantastic job. I mean, what Sig has done there in two years is just amazing. And I love it because he stayed true to himself. He didn't change, you know, he didn't move and change who he was because he went to Indiana from James Madison. He just stayed himself. And that's good enough to win a national championship. And boy, they did it in great fashion. I don't know who's putting all the stars on these players, but they need to talk to Kurt and let him fucking figure it out.
- [94:47]
Pat McAfee
This Signetti college rating, that will probably happen. You know once he's done is certainly around the corner. BA needs to get a little bit of credit for that. Let's talk about the quarterback that you know transforms into the number one overall pick. 65230 we've told you about him. Dan Orlovsky has mentioned. I think a lot of NFL people have said like I haven't really watched the film on this guy throughout the entirety of the season. That becomes like during the draft process right now we got NFL stuff going on. Like we, we don't really know everything about a guy until maybe around combine or as we're looking as him as the number one overall pick. We think what people are going to see they're going to like, we think he's tough. We think he loves ball. We think he's a nerd. So you know he's probably not going to get any trouble. He has beers with the boys. He's dialed and committed and can make every throw. It's like I'm, I have a lot of faith in the 6 5, 230 pounder. Did you see anything through this college football playoff run or is there anything that you would like to see from a quarterback who does a lot of RPOs, but he's going to be the number one overall pick coming up here in the draft?
- [95:47]
Coach B.A.
No, I love everything about him. You know, for me it always starts with a deep ball and he is as accurate as anybody down the field with the back shoulder throws and, and putting it down the field. He's got great touch. I mean he's got all the measurables obviously. He's very, very bright.
- [96:01]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [96:02]
Coach B.A.
To me he's a, he's a can't miss guy. He just got to get to a team that has some fashion of an offensive line so. And get killed.
- [96:10]
Pat McAfee
Now on that note, Tom Brady was there last night. Mark Davis was there. Spytech was there. If Tom Brady's going to be more a part of the entire ownership process which we don't know. We. He. I think he has a house in Miami. I don't know. I don't follow all the tabloids. I assume he does. He's Tom R. He's got to be loving life down there.
- [96:28]
Conman
Oh yeah, no doubt.
- [96:29]
Pat McAfee
Oh my God. He's wearing his glasses everywhere too.
- [96:31]
Conman
Got a big boat probably.
- [96:32]
Pat McAfee
He looks so cool all the time.
- [96:34]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [96:34]
Pat McAfee
Good for you Tomo. Hey, good for you. Had a baby Tomo Florida. Tomo is certainly great but if he's going to be a part of it all and you know, a part of the entire assessment of how they need to become a good football team a little bit more. We would assume he knows he needs an offensive line.
- [96:51]
Ty Schmidt
Right.
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Pat McAfee
Wouldn't that be something that Tom Brady would know? And if you see what the Chicago Bears were able to do in one offseason, whenever Ben Johnson got there, spent some money on the right pieces. Once again, getting the right pieces is obviously a big piece of that. You think that Raiders team has to invest in an offensive line, right? Don't we think that's probably step number one? If you have the number one overall pick and you're getting a quarterback, don't you need that?
- [97:12]
Coach B.A.
Totally. Yeah. My getting two tackles in a center for sure. And you know, they got enough cap room. I've been in the, in the room with John Spytack, great evaluator, especially on the pro side and yeah, I think, I think the Raiders could be a quick fix in the AFC West.
- [97:28]
Pat McAfee
I love Fernando. I like that he loves ball. He's a Florida boy too. I mean he a mile from Miami. He's in Miami. Yeah, you know him and Mark Fletcher afterwards, I assume they had, you know, growing up the Miami football scene, what everybody down there knows who's going to make in the NFL for like seventh grade, right?
- [97:47]
Tone
Oh, everybody's, you know, 707 teams, parks one on one. So Fernando, all these guys, especially the skill players, all the skill players, you see each other, you can go out there. I mean year round, you know, football season is year round down there.
- [97:59]
Pat McAfee
Pretty good shit talking community down there. Oh yeah, yeah. So Fernando is going to be able to deal with it all, you know, like I just think he is. I'm very excited to see what he does in the NFL. AJ has a question for you. Coach.
- [98:11]
Conman
Yeah, Coach.
- [98:12]
AJ Hawk
Getting back to the Indiana team and what coach Signetti is doing. We talked earlier about handling success. Like what is that?
- [98:17]
Pat McAfee
How.
- [98:18]
AJ Hawk
Why is that so difficult to do? I had a great coach. Dom Capers told us day one of our install. Hey guys, I know how you handle like adversity and everything. I want to know how we handle success because we're going to win a lot of football games around here and I need to beat you guys. Like stay dialed and stay focused.
- [98:31]
Tone
Like what?
- [98:32]
AJ Hawk
Why is it so difficult once you have reached that mountaintop to stay there?
- [98:36]
Coach B.A.
Yeah, I think complacency sets in a little bit, but I don't think stage is going to let complacency set in. The nice thing about college football is you got a new roster every year. So the message doesn't get stale in the NFL. Sometimes, fifth or so, sixth year, if you got all those guys coming back, the message can get a little stale, especially if you haven't reached top. If you're getting close, close, close. We've seen all these coaches get fired because they got close. I don't know who the hell is going to take their place. But yeah, I don't see that message getting stale.
- [99:02]
Pat McAfee
Indiana Signetti, whenever you talk about football greats in coaching, him saying, I'm a college guy and not going to NFL, do you like that or hate that or how do you get. How do you kind of view that?
- [99:17]
Coach B.A.
I love it because he knows who he is. He knows where he fits. A lot of guys have tried it, you know, all the way back to Lou Holtz, and it didn't work out. You know, I was one of those guys. I was fortunate. The pro game did figure out for me after college. But, you know, I think everybody's got to know where their fit is. And I think, you know, when you talk to Coach Saban, you know, those two years in Miami taught him I should have stayed at lsu.
- [99:41]
Pat McAfee
Well, he has some ideas on maybe some decisions that should have been made and if they would have have been made in a certain fashion, maybe it would be okay. Him and Bill. Yep, yep. That is exactly the conversation that I've heard a couple different times. All right, well, now, how do you think it goes if. And then he talks about everything that potential ripple effects after that, he goes, no. What? Yep. Okay, but how do we. You know, it's funny listening to him talk about it. Last night, him and Belichick wanted to celebrate what they did up there in Cleveland together. That that was a good moment. Coach Saban was like, bill, you've done a lot of great things, but nobody talks about the job we did in Cleveland. They were very bad and they got better because we were there. And it was just like, you know what? You're right, you two, nobody ever talks about how good a coach as you guys are. Nobody ever. Nobody ever talks about how good a coach as you guys are. And so I'm going to make sure people remember what you guys did for a Cleveland Browns. And it's crazy to think that though, like, hey, coming up these ranks, who's going to be the next one? You know, BA 47 years of coach and you're in college, then you get into the NFL and it's like you become the quarterback whis whisperer. We have no idea who's next on that note, go ahead. Ty Schmidt.
- [100:50]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, BA we're hearing a lot of guys like Nate Shield House who's the passing game coordinator for the Rams, or you know, Clint Kubiak or you know, Grant Udinsky who is the OC for Jacksonville obviously didn't call plays. If you are a GM or an owner, how would you feel about, you know, given a guy like one of these guys who's 30 or you know, 35 years old the opportunity to be a first time head coach when they haven't called plays and you look at a couple of these situations like two of them have elite quarterbacks. You know, the Raiders have the number one overall pick. Like where do you lean when it comes to these guys who are unproven but they're. There's a lot of kind of smoke and fire behind their names right now.
- [101:31]
Coach B.A.
Yeah, you have to deep dive because are they really doing, are they in front of the room putting it in or is the offensive coordinator putting it in? If they haven't called plays and all of a sudden you're going to be a head coach play caller. That's a lot for somebody. I mean that's just a hell of a big jump and very, very few guys have been successful at it. Now if you're going to hire a young guy and he's going to hire an offensive coordinator to be in front of the room all the time and put it in and call the plays, that's a different story and you're just going to oversee it. But yeah, I'm not a fan. I've seen 10 head coaching jobs open. I don't know who they hell is going to get him.
- [102:06]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, there's interesting Casala gets a job down in Tennessee, Halfley gets the job down in Miami, Stefanski gets a job in Atlanta. And then obviously Harbaugh is a New York football Giants head coach. He said that like four times today in his press conference. Right, Bruce? That felt like that was something he was hammering home. Hell yeah. And he also said if you don't.
- [102:27]
Ty Schmidt
Love football, get the hell out of here. You're going to need to love football.
- [102:29]
Pat McAfee
To be a New York football giant. BA You've coached in multiple places at later stages of your career where everybody knows exactly who you are. I mean you going to Tampa is a perfect example of that. What do you think Harbaugh is going through right now as a New York football Giants head coach? And there was a couple days there where it was like deals reached weight. It isn't. And then there was Conversation about who reports to what. Let's go ahead and just act like all that is kosher and everything's good. He's going to be reporting directly to ownership. He's John Harbaugh. He's earned it. You guys are the Giants. You're looking for another head coach. So let's see. Do we really want to. How do we want to kind of go about doing this whole thing? So let's just get past that. If that's what was happening or if he just fell asleep and lost the docusign, whatever it is, let's just get past it all. What do you think? Harbaugh going in there, trying to establish his culture as already a made man, if that makes sense. BA which is something you kind of did down there in Tampa. What do you think that process is like for him?
- [103:24]
Coach B.A.
I think it's a very easy one because he brings the credibility. You know, the players are always looking for credibility, and John brings it automatically with his record and. But that's a heck of a good young football. Football team. I think the Giants is a sleeping giant for a job, to pardon the pun. But the young guys, they have on defense, you know, Jackson, darts, gadaboo, Nate, all those guys on offense, they got a decent offensive lines. So I think that could be easy. Easy turnaround, especially with John's pedigree.
- [103:53]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so let's talk about getting these gigs. Go ahead, Tone.
- [103:56]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Coach.
- [103:57]
Darius J. Butler
We always. We hear all these guys being brought in. Like teams are bringing in 7, 8, 9, 10 interviews and, you know, they're virtual at first and then they're in person. What is the. The interview process like? Like, what is the difference between what do you talk about in the virtual ones and then when you go into the in person ones, like, how deep into the weeds are they asking you to get and stuff like that?
- [104:17]
Coach B.A.
Yeah, and most of it is about, you know, who you're hiring, who you're bringing with you. What's your plan? You know, everybody asks you. Some people ask your philosophy. I said, if you got philosophy, philosophy, you're full of shit. You got to have a plan. And. And let's show what the plan is. I think that's what Sig did such a great job. He had a plan when he went in there and he followed it and it worked. But yeah, I mean, I never did a virtual one, so I can't really speak on that one. But in the. In the interview process with the owner, it's all about, you know, your plan, how you're going to do it daily. What your expectations are, what his expectations. Expectations are. And your staff. I think staff is always huge when you're. When you're talking to the owner and.
- [104:58]
Pat McAfee
The GM philosophies for LinkedIn, brother, we're out here in execution town. I want to hear a plan. You know, that is a beautiful bar from you. Philosophy is not what we need here. Okay? Anybody can do theories on what football should be. Well, our quarterback's going to be our hardest worker and he's going to be a great leader and we're going to have the best nutritionist and our. Our strength coach, second to none. Actually going to redefine what sports physiology is actually about. And that's the type of kind of building I'm bringing in here, an offense coordinator. See this guy, mix of Shanahan and McFay. This guy, he's always got a good feeling. Guess what? He's Ben Johnson, too. It's like people that operate in theories and like, how they think it should be are the worst humans on earth because they just refuse to believe reality. So I appreciate that some of these owners probably asked for a plan, but I know there's some of these dipshits out there that just get sold what I just said.
- [105:49]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, for sure.
- [105:51]
Pat McAfee
Give me that. Yeah. Did you hear this guy's got McVeigh and Shannon? Same guy, definitely. We need that. Now there's another guy getting back into the conversation, especially in a good spot. Go ahead, con man.
- [106:02]
Conman
Yeah.
- [106:03]
Pat McAfee
B.A.
- [106:03]
Conman
Eric B. Enemy going back to Kansas City to be the OC There. I see a lot of people from Kansas City pretty happy about this, actually. They're kind of of saying, you know, hey, B. Enemy brings that edge, kind of that fire that Casey's been missing. How do you feel about this hire and what does B. Enemy bring to the table that maybe some of us don't know? Just because from the outside looking in and say this is a placeholder, you know, coaching position. Because in the end, whatever Mahomes says goes and whatever Andy Reid says goes. So what does B. Enemy bring? Would you say that, you know, maybe the layman doesn't understand, especially in that building?
- [106:40]
Coach B.A.
Yeah, I think you said a passion, energy, EBE's. He's one of those really fiery guys. But again, don't get lost in the title because he's not running the show and he's running the show and he brings a lot of energy and passion to it. They obviously were very, very good when he was there, but it's not like they're going to change the offense.
- [107:05]
Pat McAfee
So you kind of say hey to the people that are asking, like, hey, is this not just a placeholder position here? What is the. What are we doing here? Andy Reid's running the entire show, you said. Yeah, you should think that way. But the energy, the vibes, the passion, the execution, the week to week, day to day, I assume could be different than how Nagy would do it. He's in the head coaching conversation.
- [107:25]
Conman
Yeah.
- [107:26]
Pat McAfee
Where?
- [107:27]
Ty Schmidt
Well, Tennessee apparently was hot, the truck trot. So that. That spot.
- [107:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, now that he's in head coaching mixes, we got to move on as well. Like that is.
- [107:37]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, it seemed almost like a mutual, like, hey, you kind of stunk as Roc, so let's get you out here. But then we can, we can kind of get the, the PR machine behind you and we'll say, hey, you got, you know, four or five head coaching interviews as well.
- [107:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And we don't know what's real, what isn't, especially at this point. Every agent could be angling and every team could be talking to anybody. You have no idea who's going to get hired at any point. So it's all certainly believable. But yeah, I guess we'll see Nagy.
- [108:02]
Conman
Get a job maybe O.C. somewhere or Buffalo. I can see him in Buffalo.
- [108:08]
Tone
A lot of jobs out there.
- [108:09]
Pat McAfee
Well, the Chiefs are going to make a change, I guess because they were have not been playing in the playoffs and we have certainly missed them, but ball has been fantastic. The weather has shown up a couple different times. Go ahead, D. Bud.
- [108:18]
Tone
Yeah, weather is kind of always going to show up this time of the year in the NFL with the playoffs. What was your big thing? It won't be as big of a deal this weekend as it was last weekend, but what was your big thing with quarterbacking in elements and what was kind of the separator with the quarterbacks that could succeed on that level? Like Matt Stafford going from LA playing his first game, I think that was below 20 degrees and him getting it done on the road in Chicago. What has separated the great quarterbacks over time in these, in this point of the year?
- [108:45]
Coach B.A.
I think the guys that can really spin it when you look at that Chicago, Chicago weather, you know, Caleb didn't have any problem, Matthew, especially in that first drive. He was on fire. The guys that can really spin it. The weather doesn't bother that much. It's. It's the guys who are anticipation throwers with a little less arm strength. Where the wind, the wind is a factor. It's never the rain. It's always the wind. And you know those guys. I don't think the weather in Seattle is going to bother either with Sam Darnold or Matthew Stafford. So yeah, I think think it does bother some. I was surprised Brock Purdy did such a good job in Philly, but now that, that to me is overblown sometimes with these veteran quarterbacks because they're all playing on the same field and unless there's a foot of snow on the ground or just pouring down rain, which you hate to see in playoff games.
- [109:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, all four. You know, every game outdoors, you know, is a stat that came by for the first. First time in a few amount of years or whatever. Yeah, first time since 2002 postseason where they're guaranteed that every NFL playoff game will be played in outdoor stadiums. Wow. We're getting the weather.
- [109:53]
Tone
That Houston New England game was insane.
- [109:56]
Pat McAfee
Sleeting for what, seven hours up there? Does that happen on a regular basis? That's the worst freezing rain, snow mix. Yeah, that's the worst you could have. Wind, sorry, freezing, windy rain, snow mix for it was relentless. It. It appeared six, seven hours straight of that shit. I mean, it was the pregame, it was during the game, it was after the game that felt. Is that normal?
- [110:22]
Conman
Yeah, very normal. I mean, for New England people, that's. That's right where you want to be. You know, you don't have to shovel, but you still get the experience of winter. A wintry mix in New England. I mean, there's probably people with their maths open the whole entire time to the sky, not to the grass. A.J. you son of a bitch. But yeah, in New England, that is a very normal type of sleet. You would hope that you just don't see any of any weather whatsoever for Sam. Fran, that's my biggest worry with that Super Bowl. If that thing is a sloppy rain fest, which I don't anticipate it to be, but you would just hope that that doesn't happen.
- [110:55]
Pat McAfee
We don't know what Theardo's saying. All right, let's get to a couple BS or no BS's with BA, shall we, ladies? Ladies and gentlemen, the first one, we will stay say a statement of fact. BA Will tell us if it's BS or no bs. Denver has Sean Payton, the Seahawks defense is great, New England is a wagon. But the LA Rams will be the Super bowl champions. Is that BS or no BS?
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Coach B.A.
BA that's no BS, brother.
- [111:23]
Pat McAfee
Oh, Super bowl prediction. January 20th. Okay.
- [111:28]
Coach B.A.
I've been a part of two wild card teams that got on a roll. And once you get on that roll, the noise doesn't bother you anymore. You got that invincibility feeling about you. And I think the Rams, you know, with Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford, plus that defense, I think that defense is the one that can get in Sam Darnold's head and that, that Sam's been playing great and Seattle's a hard, hard place to go play. But the Rams have been been there and done it, and I just see them doing it and I think they'll beat whoever comes out of the afc.
- [111:59]
Pat McAfee
Matthew Stafford, MVP and a Super Bowl. Wow. The NFC is favored over the AFC no matter what the matchup is. You know, NFC west is favored over the AFC no matter what the matchup is on DraftKings as it predicts the future. All right, the second one here, BS or no BS With BA Go ahead.
- [112:16]
Tone
Deep down, this team will not be in a Super bowl this year. But here the quote. Firing Sean McDermott was not the right move in Buffalo. He will get another job very quickly. Is that BS or no bsba?
- [112:27]
Coach B.A.
I think that's no BS this one baffles me how Brandon Bean got elevated and Sean McDermott got fired. That just blows my mind because they didn't have any damn players. I mean, the guy's one of the best coaches in the league and a great leader of men. He's taking that team to the as close as you can get. Couldn't beat Mahomes. He didn't throw any damn interceptions. And the referees screwed him bad. And he gets fired. And I mean, come, come on, man. And Brandon Beat gets a fucking raise. I don't get that one. That, that one blows my mind.
- [113:00]
Pat McAfee
His record is outstanding. Nine years, eight playoff appearances, five AFC east titles. It's like with what Harbaugh was getting immediately upon being let go from Baltimore and what people were saying about Tomlin as Well, it's like McDermott's going to get a lot of heat. Stefanski immediately getting hot is weird to me. I don't know. That's. That's weird to me. I don't think I fully understand it, but they got a plan. Okay, let's get to a couple game balls before we get out of here. AFC, NFC game ball is one player per side. BA who do you got for the AFC?
- [113:33]
Coach B.A.
Jalen McMillan. You know, game winning interception. The guy came up big. I don't know if it was an interception, but he made the Play and won the game for him.
- [113:41]
Pat McAfee
Jaquan McMillan makes a huge play. Okay, the NFC who saw who got.
- [113:45]
Coach B.A.
It BA cam curl, same thing. Another big time interception. Got to go with the defenses.
- [113:50]
Conman
Hell yeah.
- [113:51]
Coach B.A.
Offensive guy.
- [113:52]
Pat McAfee
Love that coach. Coach, we'll talk to you next week. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, it's coach B.A. yeah. B.A. that's no B.S. there, A.J. with B.A. he's straight shooting right there. That's no B.A.
- [114:03]
Ty Schmidt
I'M fire today.
- [114:04]
Pat McAfee
He was always is, baby. So Bing gets a promotion. That sounds like B.S. the B.A.
- [114:10]
Conman
Yeah.
- [114:10]
Pat McAfee
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Pat McAfee
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- [116:03]
Ty Schmidt
You know, I tell you what, it's a. It's a really good, good time for the football team. Just because no one gives a about the basketball team.
- [116:09]
Pat McAfee
Foxy just did A big thumbs down down there back there. Like he knows. Yeah, they're not very good because Ty just told me the Iowa Hawkeyes kicked their ass. And then I think it was last week the Michigan State Spartans kicked their ass. So I'm just going off that alone.
- [116:21]
Ty Schmidt
They beat a lot of rum dums earlier in the season, which is a good move. You know, you put a bunch of cupcakes on the schedule, beat the out of them. But yeah, I mean, the Hawks, you know, who actually had. Were on a bit of a schneid. They went into Bloomington and, and, and beat the out of Indiana. Michigan State beat the out of Indiana. Nebraska. Indiana was up by like 16, which.
- [116:42]
Pat McAfee
Is good because Nebraska was undefeated.
- [116:43]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. And then they choked and blew it, and Nebraska's still undefeated, you know, so, you know, but hey, it's, you know, Growing Pains first year head coach, so we'll see. They'll get it right. But does anybody care when your football team's going 6 and oh and you or 16 and oh, and you win a national championship championship? No, they don't.
- [117:01]
Conman
Yeah, that's, that's kind of the, the tip of the spear there. Yeah, I think what he ended with no one gives a about college basketball.
- [117:09]
Pat McAfee
Not around, not around here. We do not.
- [117:12]
Conman
Hey, guess what? We don't care.
- [117:14]
Pat McAfee
Oh, you're Hoosier football.
- [117:15]
Conman
No one gives a. All right, hold on.
- [117:17]
Pat McAfee
I think the Hoosier people will be saying, hey, listen, you don't have to bury the who's your basketball team just because you're a Hoosier football fan.
- [117:23]
Conman
No, not just Hoosier basketball. No one gives a fuck about basketball is what I meant to say. I didn't mean, I didn't mean to do just IU basketball. I just mean in general. Can't wait for those three weeks in March. Outside of those three weeks, call me then off, all right?
- [117:38]
Pat McAfee
I don't want to hear it.
- [117:39]
Conman
We're talking about. I, I, I'd rather talk about the transfer portal because that is More important than January 20th in college basketball season. We know that.
- [117:47]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you're talking college hoops, obviously not the NBA, because look, do you see what I'm wearing today?
- [117:52]
Tone
Whoa, what are those?
- [117:54]
Conman
What?
- [117:55]
Pat McAfee
Don't say what are those?
- [117:56]
Conman
I didn't mean to say it like that. I meant like, whoa, what are those? Those are sick.
- [117:59]
Tone
Cool gray. Halley.
- [118:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I think these are the newest color out of the halbers.
- [118:03]
Coach B.A.
Oh, no.
- [118:04]
Tone
You lost your balance A little bit, yeah.
- [118:05]
Pat McAfee
Well, I'll tell you what I did Almost collapse right there. But that was not the Hies. That was more so my body just saying. Hey bud, you slept two hours less.
- [118:12]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. Those are going to help you be a monster in March. I could feel it.
- [118:15]
Tone
Are there.
- [118:16]
Pat McAfee
Listen, sometimes being a monster in January is not a conversation that needs to be had.
- [118:22]
Tone
Exactly.
- [118:23]
Pat McAfee
Don't you worry about Cyclones. They're going to turn that around.
- [118:25]
Ty Schmidt
They better.
- [118:26]
Pat McAfee
Better.
- [118:27]
Ty Schmidt
Otherwise they're going to be enjoying the cbi.
- [118:30]
Pat McAfee
What is that? Is that the nit?
- [118:32]
Ty Schmidt
No, no, that's a step below the nit. It's all the teams that get picked over in the NIT and they say okay, it. They can come play a couple games.
- [118:41]
Pat McAfee
Three of those tournaments. I did not know there's three of them cuz I thought the next one was the tbt. You just played the bas.
- [118:47]
Conman
Sure.
- [118:47]
Ty Schmidt
Well, it's similar cuz I. I believe you actually have to pay the cb CBI to get into it, so.
- [118:53]
Pat McAfee
All right. It happens. On that note, West Virginia's hoop squad. Tough.
- [119:00]
Conman
Yeah. Ross Hodge, early favorite for newcomer of the year.
- [119:05]
Pat McAfee
I remember Hodge. Yeah, he's the guy, huh? In the Vries. Left West Virginia after one year. His boys playing for Indiana. Yep. And he's. You guys. They're not doing good.
- [119:14]
Ty Schmidt
I mean, they're, they're. The Big Ten is very tough. It's very tough.
- [119:18]
Pat McAfee
So the Big Ten. Ten's got football and it's got basketball.
- [119:21]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. I mean the Big Ten is the preeminent conference in the nation. Has been for a very long time. Wrestling, you know, women's basketball, volleyball.
- [119:33]
Pat McAfee
Women's basketball is Yukon. Right? Isn't that kind of their thing? Yeah. With Caitlyn, I think they didn't win. Right.
- [119:39]
Ty Schmidt
I'm talking like the entire conference though. Like obviously UConn is the best team in the nation, but you know, you. You stack up a couple of these teams in a big time.
- [119:50]
Tone
Really?
- [119:50]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah.
- [119:51]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, and. And Iowa. I know we. We get. We did our big Audi crooks thing. Hey, you about to get cooked by Audi Crooks. I was a top 10 team again. And they don't have Caitlin Clark.
- [120:01]
Pat McAfee
And guess what they're not doing?
- [120:03]
Ty Schmidt
Losing five in a row to the bottom half of the table of the Big 12. So, you know, I was. I. I hope so.
- [120:14]
Pat McAfee
They're resting up. Don't you worry. Monster in March. It's coming. I still got faith. I still got faith. Basketball's coming real soon. Basketball's coming real soon. So everybody needs to tighten it up.
- [120:25]
Conman
Three more football games.
- [120:26]
Pat McAfee
Three more.
- [120:27]
Darius J. Butler
Not Long enough.
- [120:29]
Conman
What you say three more football games.
- [120:31]
Pat McAfee
And then you start to count down to kickoff again?
- [120:34]
Conman
Yeah, we'll see.
- [120:35]
Darius J. Butler
Ufl man, we start draft prep.
- [120:37]
Ty Schmidt
We got the Pro bowl games too.
- [120:40]
Pat McAfee
Thank you. What?
- [120:41]
Ty Schmidt
I mean, jeez. Trying to extend ended a little bit.
- [120:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. What is it? What are they doing this year?
- [120:48]
Ty Schmidt
It's the week of the super bowl in Wilbur, so they changed it. I think it's like Wednesday night or something like that. I believe it's in San Francisco. I don't think it's at Disney World.
- [120:57]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so it's Wednesday night of super bowl week.
- [120:59]
Ty Schmidt
Don't quote me on that. But I believe it is at a weird time.
- [121:04]
Pat McAfee
So Then the Honor 2026 Pro Bowl Games will be held in San Francisco during a Super bowl week featuring Skills Station.
- [121:10]
AJ Hawk
Okay.
- [121:10]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's on Tuesday. Honors is during the week too, right? That's Thursday. Yeah. And we'll be out at Radio Row Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I believe.
- [121:19]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [121:19]
Darius J. Butler
Classic.
- [121:20]
Pat McAfee
Classic. What a time.
- [121:22]
Darius J. Butler
Thursday is the most important night of the year. A lot of people put a hard work in that.
- [121:25]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [121:26]
Conman
Amen.
- [121:27]
Pat McAfee
Oh, is that when you're celebrated? Your votes are celebrated?
- [121:30]
Darius J. Butler
I. I specifically am celebrating.
- [121:32]
Pat McAfee
Do you get vot. Do you get invited to that?
- [121:34]
Ty Schmidt
No, no, no.
- [121:35]
Pat McAfee
Though.
- [121:35]
Ty Schmidt
Why not?
- [121:37]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, you should go.
- [121:38]
Pat McAfee
We've never got invited.
- [121:40]
Tone
Nope.
- [121:40]
AJ Hawk
I'm okay. But you should go. You're a voter.
- [121:42]
Darius J. Butler
We normally do a side by side. We watch the NFL honors on one half of the TV and then Gabe Mariency on the other half of the tv.
- [121:50]
Pat McAfee
Sports rage.
- [121:51]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, sports rage.
- [121:52]
Ty Schmidt
That is a Super bowl tradition.
- [121:54]
Pat McAfee
Friday he was quit. David quit.
- [121:56]
Conman
Yeah, Watching him rage.
- [121:58]
Pat McAfee
And Red was done with all time favorite memories every. So they had to they the time in which they were on because they're from super left Canada way over there. So the time in which they were on radio ro clearly shut down. Only.
- [122:10]
Ty Schmidt
Only people in there packed up.
- [122:12]
Pat McAfee
They're vacuum and they had full commercial vacuums. And it looked like a Zamboni. Yeah, it looked like a Zamboni was behind them. And they couldn't take it anymore. They didn't think they were being taken seriously.
- [122:25]
Conman
Couldn't.
- [122:26]
Pat McAfee
And this is such an inside joke for the people that know this, but we. There was nine people watching that stream live. Yeah, we had six of them. We were watching. We were six of the nine that were watching at that exact time.
- [122:38]
Conman
Loving it.
- [122:39]
Pat McAfee
Love is so happy. They just quit their jobs.
- [122:42]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [122:43]
Conman
Can't do this again.
- [122:44]
Ty Schmidt
Marienboni was rolling too close and he kept doing the.
- [122:48]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
- [122:49]
Tone
What do you think?
- [122:49]
Ty Schmidt
And you know, putting it back to the guy vacuuming. Tony in the middle.
- [122:53]
Conman
Tony in the middle. Middle. Yep.
- [122:54]
Ty Schmidt
They just kept asking him questions and as he was getting ready to answer. Just shut up, Tony.
- [122:59]
Pat McAfee
That's not what it be.
- [122:59]
Ty Schmidt
And then just go to something else. Oh, man.
- [123:01]
Pat McAfee
They got up and said quit. They quit their job. They've been doing this for like 30 years. Quit their jobs in the Village stream. Then they're told, I think Dumpy's commenting or something in there. They hop back on your boys, we're back.
- [123:16]
Tone
Are you there?
- [123:17]
Pat McAfee
Hey, boys watching there? Yeah, they got this Zamboni back. The whole digital thing was super bowl week. Always provides some outlandish memory. Yes, it does. We don't do any of the.
- [123:27]
Tone
Nope.
- [123:28]
Pat McAfee
No. That everybody else does. You held a concert there once Wiz Khalifa came out.
- [123:32]
Darius J. Butler
AJ didn't put his hands up.
- [123:33]
Tone
Oh, yeah.
- [123:33]
Pat McAfee
AJ refused put his hands up. No more live music performances. Live allowed from Radio Row. They've changed rules for Radio Row every year that we've been there. Basically. It's a great opportunity. It's a good time. Man, that. Think about the hate that's in that room now at this stage of it all. Oh, my God. Can't wait to get out there.
- [123:54]
Tone
A lot of those people don't go to radio, bro.
- [123:56]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I know. It's all the other ones that are like told they're supposed to hate me. Remember, I'm taking their jobs and their.
- [124:01]
Darius J. Butler
Friends Job, dicker jobs.
- [124:04]
Tone
Interesting.
- [124:05]
Pat McAfee
You are too, though. Let's not get this. They should hate you too. I would like that to be known. It's not just me.
- [124:10]
Tone
That's cool.
- [124:13]
AJ Hawk
We're a team. They can hate us all.
- [124:14]
Pat McAfee
They do definitely hate me. They do, Connors. But have you read it? I don't know if you're online enough. Is this. Whenever DJ Bonix or Wiz says put your hands up and AJ refuses to do it. I think you'll see.
- [124:26]
Tone
Hey, I got.
- [124:27]
AJ Hawk
I have photo evidence of me putting my hands up.
- [124:29]
Pat McAfee
That was all the people that are allowed in there. Remember, this is during COVID the back end of COVID All right.
- [124:34]
Darius J. Butler
Not everyone hates, by the way. Ran into dockage last night. He's a fan.
- [124:38]
Conman
Yeah. He said something about me having a. A G, A P. You guys know what that stands for?
- [124:43]
AJ Hawk
What that stand for?
- [124:44]
Conman
I, I, I really, I couldn't figure it out. He just yelled gap at me and I was like this.
- [124:49]
Pat McAfee
The didn't he just yell it? Did he just yell at it at you for no reason or what happened?
- [124:53]
Conman
I I, I yelled you Double D you. Exactly. Ty was with me.
- [125:00]
Pat McAfee
Duck it.
- [125:01]
Conman
And he just yelled G A P. I was like go Hoosiers baby. And kept walking. So.
- [125:09]
Pat McAfee
And he said the same thing about who? Who, who, who. Big night for dockage. He's big time Hoosier fan. Yeah. Big time Hoosier fan. Sometimes doesn't love what's going on in Indiana.
- [125:20]
Darius J. Butler
He'll tell you.
- [125:21]
Pat McAfee
Then all of a sudden you got Hoosier fans mad at him. And that's right where he wants to be.
- [125:26]
Ty Schmidt
He thrives in that zone.
- [125:29]
Pat McAfee
Thrives in an understatement. That is a born to be there.
- [125:33]
Tone
Yeah.
- [125:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I was born in the dark.
- [125:35]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
- [125:36]
Pat McAfee
That is dd. Congrats to him and all the Hoosiers, man. DD goes to bat for me and for us a lot.
- [125:43]
Darius J. Butler
He's the all time leading scorer Indiana. Is that true?
- [125:46]
Pat McAfee
No. He shut down Michael Jordan.
- [125:47]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [125:49]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Played for Bob Knight. Yeah. Coach in Indiana for a little bit once. You have some respect for.
- [125:54]
Ty Schmidt
I do.
- [125:54]
Darius J. Butler
That's that what that was listening. He also told me that I have a gap.
- [126:00]
Conman
What's it mean?
- [126:00]
Pat McAfee
He said you have a G. You.
- [126:02]
Conman
Have a G. Yeah.
- [126:04]
Pat McAfee
He actually so something that can be possessed.
- [126:07]
Darius J. Butler
Conor was with Ty. I was with Foxy.
- [126:10]
Conman
We.
- [126:10]
Darius J. Butler
You you don't go into dockage one on one. You got to go two on one in case you you never know what's going to happen. But no, he.
- [126:15]
Pat McAfee
He could bury you and saw you down. You need to have a tag team partner going.
- [126:20]
Darius J. Butler
But yeah. He said you got guys huge gap Havers. And we yelled right back at him.
- [126:26]
Conman
Something we own and it would be.
- [126:28]
Tone
Good to be big.
- [126:30]
AJ Hawk
What could the P stand for?
- [126:32]
Tone
Huge.
- [126:33]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. I'll live see another day, I guess. Yeah man. The great American national championship was won last night.
- [126:41]
Tone
Yep.
- [126:41]
Pat McAfee
By the Indiana Hoosiers. Uhhuh. That's what's all about. We're gonna go take naps.
- [126:46]
Tone
Yep.
- [126:47]
Pat McAfee
It's Tuesday.
- [126:49]
Ty Schmidt
I you know what I was just thinking? At least it's Friday and we got the weekend. It's Tuesday.
- [126:57]
Pat McAfee
Yes it is. God damn Tuesday time.
- [127:00]
Conman
What are you watching tonight?
- [127:02]
Tone
Anything on TV tonight?
- [127:03]
Darius J. Butler
You know it is. We spoke with the man himself.
- [127:06]
Pat McAfee
Yes sir.
- [127:07]
Darius J. Butler
The man that gave $600,000 away last night. Courtesy of Eridge Farm. Marty Smith will be hosting TGLT tonight and he is pumped about all of us tuning in.
- [127:17]
Pat McAfee
Okay. When you said how what happened with us and the whoever the person was. I really Appreciated the intention to pronounce spoked because I've been up a lot of words lately, but I don't stay committed through the entire word. My brain's just been quitting on these words whenever I'm going, you, you, you, you, you. Tony, he spoke to. Can I be 100% loved it. I was like, yes, Tone. I love the way you just.
- [127:50]
Darius J. Butler
I don't remember any of the words that came out of my mouth 30 seconds ago.
- [127:53]
AJ Hawk
Okay, you're in the moment.
- [127:55]
Pat McAfee
Well, you spoke about Marty Smith in his Eich farms throw.
- [128:00]
Tone
Yeah.
- [128:00]
Pat McAfee
600,000. Guy won three for five.
- [128:02]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [128:03]
Pat McAfee
Tiny little hole. Not bad. After embarrassing himself, too personal misses, then ball slips out of hands.
- [128:09]
Darius J. Butler
Mental toughness.
- [128:09]
Pat McAfee
Murphy's law was coming, and then Marty's law was, I got to show up for these people. What did he say when he first got on the field? Because you guys were really close to him.
- [128:17]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he said something like, how many?
- [128:19]
Pat McAfee
Y' all want some free E Smoked sausage? Watch me hug this pig skin.
- [128:25]
Conman
Boom, boom, boom.
- [128:28]
Ty Schmidt
And that was it.
- [128:30]
Tone
I did see filthy.
- [128:32]
Conman
Something about colored pencils.
- [128:33]
Ty Schmidt
I thought, oh, yeah, 600K. It's a lot of colored pencils for you teachers. Y' all have a good one. They were playing that over the stadium, weren't they? Yeah, I think we were.
- [128:47]
Conman
Marty showed up.
- [128:48]
Pat McAfee
I was in. I ran to the bathroom. Still had my ears in.
- [128:52]
AJ Hawk
I was with you.
- [128:53]
Tone
I was next to you.
- [128:54]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I didn't see what was going on out there. Oh, here is Ty going. You guys want some Eric sausages? We were dying, aj. I had no idea. And then we start hearing you guys live commentating this thing during a commercial break, and we missed it. I'm gonna be honest. Me and AJ were in a bathroom. AJ had his microphone. I did not have a microphone. So AJ was responding for both of us to the people for the bathroom.
- [129:19]
AJ Hawk
It was at the urinal with, like, 10 people behind us. Had no clue what me and you were dying laughing about.
- [129:24]
Pat McAfee
We were plugged in. Yeah. We can't hear anything that is outside of here. And that is an interesting thing. Whenever you're out in public and you can't hear anything that somebody is saying right here, and you definitely need to have it happen. People just not knowing that it's happening in the moment. I do feel bad for those people. I try my best to, like, acknowledge, you know, but if you don't make eye contact and you're not listening, there's some terrible situations that can kind of happen right in this area.
- [129:50]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [129:50]
Pat McAfee
I think. And I feel terrible. Have a Drew Bree.
- [129:53]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly.
- [129:54]
Pat McAfee
Have a drew bree@rao.
- [129:55]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [129:56]
Darius J. Butler
Some Miami fan calls last night.
- [130:00]
Ty Schmidt
He did while we were live. He tried to say it in the microphone as he was walking. It was.
- [130:04]
Darius J. Butler
It was literally three seconds after the interception. And he said, you didn't think we were.
- [130:12]
Pat McAfee
Is that real?
- [130:13]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I think it was something along the lines. It might have been like, looks like we were better than you cocksuckers thought.
- [130:25]
Tone
What?
- [130:26]
Darius J. Butler
He was so mad at us.
- [130:27]
Conman
Us.
- [130:28]
Pat McAfee
You guys could have had a sweet moment there because imagine you take the microphone. Oh, would you like to expand?
- [130:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [130:33]
Pat McAfee
On the.
- [130:33]
Tone
It was.
- [130:34]
Darius J. Butler
It was. And the worst part about it was when you were doing the awesome Die Tribe like the Indiana Hoosiers a hundred years.
- [130:40]
Pat McAfee
Oh.
- [130:40]
Darius J. Butler
So we couldn't really step on that.
- [130:42]
Conman
Yeah.
- [130:42]
Darius J. Butler
But it could have been because us and Bicey and all the. The flag runners like had our own celebrations after every touchdown. So they saw who we were rooting for.
- [130:51]
Pat McAfee
Connor, you doing the no good. Did a field goal ref. Conor. Other ref. No, I mean that thing was the loudest doink in the history of Conor just going crazy. Almost caught a ball obviously across the bottom. You guys had a lot of action for then for us. I mean, that block punt happens. Yeah. Pick was down there six yards in front of us. No. Koski gets a Russian touchdown down. It does feel like we get a chance to be a part of these games actually in these games. It's crazy. It was. It. Field pass has been a crazy run. Yeah. Field pass has been a crazy run.
- [131:23]
AJ Hawk
It's an awesome view back there. That endzone view.
- [131:25]
Conman
Like, I love it.
- [131:26]
AJ Hawk
I love being down. Yeah. Of course you can't see some things, but it's. It's a great spot to be. I enjoy it.
- [131:31]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And by the national championship, we basically know everybody. Yeah.
- [131:34]
Conman
Y.
- [131:34]
Tone
You know the players. You kind of can't anticipate how they're going to attack certain situations. But yeah, it is. Obviously it's challenges knowing, you know, they pick up three or seven, six yards the down. The distance. That jumbotron operator was.
- [131:47]
AJ Hawk
Oh my goodness.
- [131:48]
Tone
It was a little battle there. But outside of that, you're seeing like coverages, seeing what the quarterback see, seeing linebackers flow, all. All this. It's, it's, it's. It's dope.
- [131:56]
Pat McAfee
It is a lot of fun. Thank you. College ball. College ball has been a hell of a run. We appreciate it immensely. Started with 12 turn down to the one Indiana, your national champion. We scripted that for the D block. We moved it here to the F block. That's what we do.
- [132:21]
AJ Hawk
That's why we now think about Sig. Sorry? Think about Sig now. Like, they start their winter workouts in two weeks. What is it? Think about just killing the. The next group of dudes.
- [132:29]
Pat McAfee
Sig actually went through his schedule with us earlier. We facetimed him. Whole hilarious answer. Hilarious answer out of Signetti. Thought there was no chance. I will cold facetime people, though. Like, people know that. Like, that is my move. Not expecting an answer, but, boy, if somebody pops up on the other side. Great to see you. This is good times. Did not expect him to answer. Just kind of sitting and talking about how great he is of a coach. It was like, let's fucking see what this guy's into. He answers, great jovial mood, obviously, but he was already. We're already on the next season. Whatever. We yell at him, you know, we do. We yell at him. We force him to try to enjoy for 24 hours at least, you know, But Coach Saban told us it was until he went to bed and they woke up and it was like, now we got to go get this whole thing.
- [133:13]
AJ Hawk
We're behind. You feel like you're behind when you win the national championship?
- [133:16]
Pat McAfee
Well, yeah. Then the transfer portal thing has already happened, you know, like, Indiana has won the transfer portal by a lot of accounts. They had to do that while they're preparing for the biggest games of the year. At the same time, Insignetti is a big part of both those things. So you. You start adding those things together. It's like, how do you kind of manage all this? And he said, you know, he's got a great team around him. He will say that immediately. He'll say, hey, obviously, family's amazing. Jeff Ke's amazing. Scott the AD is amazing. Pam Whitten's amazing. My coaching staff is the greatest. To your point. He empowers them to do the coaching. It's not really like he is jumping on anybody. He says that. But the amount of things he's had to juggle, you know, through it all, which any coach that gets to this point is going to have to do. Dan Lanning talked about it as well. And then immediately after, okay, yeah, you pushed off a lot of now because the season's been. So we gotta. You gotta catch up now to all this other stuff, not just recruiting. And when it comes to coaches, there's a lot of outside, you know that. Okay, now you gotta. Now we gotta kind of check these boxes as well. And it's like, I don't think he gets a good celebration as national champions championship for a while. I don't think. And I think he knows that too.
- [134:23]
Darius J. Butler
A couple weeks in the summer maybe.
- [134:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, maybe.
- [134:25]
AJ Hawk
Maybe in early July.
- [134:26]
Tone
Yeah.
- [134:27]
AJ Hawk
When the coaches get a couple, you.
- [134:28]
Pat McAfee
Know, 10 days at some point, you know, it's like, yeah, you got to.
- [134:31]
Conman
2 million dollar bonus. Couple new escalators. He's enjoying that.
- [134:37]
Pat McAfee
Amen corner. I'm building amen corner down there outside. Got pike and green guy. Amen corner.
- [134:44]
Conman
Yeah.
- [134:44]
Pat McAfee
And we call it prayer. We call it what we call it Mendoza. Fernando Armando.
- [134:51]
Conman
Yeah, yeah. Armando's maybe pond. Maybe he puts a pond in ponds.
- [134:56]
Pat McAfee
Pond.
- [134:57]
Conman
Yeah.
- [134:58]
Pat McAfee
That guy hits so hard.
- [135:00]
Tone
So hard. Buck 70.
- [135:02]
AJ Hawk
When's he getting drafted? He's awesome. When is he going to get drafted? They have any.
- [135:05]
Darius J. Butler
Anyone 3 inches taller, he'd be top 10.
- [135:08]
Pat McAfee
I think he has to declare, right? Has. He's.
- [135:10]
Darius J. Butler
He is not declared, but people think he will.
- [135:12]
Pat McAfee
What year is he?
- [135:14]
Darius J. Butler
Junior.
- [135:15]
Pat McAfee
True junior.
- [135:17]
Darius J. Butler
I think he's a red shirt junior.
- [135:19]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so he's played ball.
- [135:20]
Tone
Yeah. Withers. Witherspoon having a lot of success in Seattle may help his draft position because that was some. I mean he went at what I think six overall. So obviously, you know, the NFL and the scouts, everybody's still very high on Witherspoon out of Illinois a couple like three years ago. So Pons, he has his speed, he's physical, he can play the ball and he, he will come up and hit. So I would love to see him, you know, get drafted high and play on the outside if that's where he wants to play.
- [135:44]
Darius J. Butler
He also has the second lowest miss tackle percentage. I think it was only 3% on. On the season. So he will tackle too, which is a huge thing for if you're. If you're undersized. He has everything to combat that with how physical and how good of a tackler.
- [135:58]
Pat McAfee
Where's he from?
- [135:59]
Tone
My.
- [136:01]
Darius J. Butler
By way of jmu.
- [136:02]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. One that got away.
- [136:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Oh, Jeremiah.
- [136:06]
Conman
Not the only one.
- [136:06]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah.
- [136:07]
Conman
Oh, Fernando.
- [136:07]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, Fernando too.
- [136:09]
Tone
So happy.
- [136:10]
Conman
Oh, no.
- [136:11]
Darius J. Butler
Who ended the game?
- [136:13]
Pat McAfee
Oh, sharp.
- [136:14]
Tone
He said it after the game too. He recruit me. Still love home.
- [136:19]
Pat McAfee
Gosh, Fernando's saying that all week.
- [136:22]
Tone
Yeah, it's part of it.
- [136:25]
Pat McAfee
It's hard to put that U on the helmet. Tony so good at football. Y. Oh yeah. I wonder what the offers are right now.
- [136:35]
Tone
He won't look at him for real. He's the prince I was promised.
- [136:38]
Darius J. Butler
Mom already tweeted.
- [136:40]
Tone
This is home Tunnel Vision.
- [136:42]
Pat McAfee
Mom said that.
- [136:42]
Tone
Mama said, gabos, what if somebody says.
- [136:45]
Pat McAfee
Baby Jesus, I'd like to bless you, actually.
- [136:47]
Coach B.A.
Yeah.
- [136:48]
Pat McAfee
Said we love to get you on our football team. Maybe some old money haver down there in Texas.
- [136:53]
Tone
Jesus came here, he was on a clear mission. He didn't get sidetracked, trade didn't get focused. What did Chuck you say? Blinders? Yeah, but he's got blinders on.
- [137:03]
Pat McAfee
I mean, he did get distracted, right? Cause what are the Italians? They.
- [137:08]
Tone
No, he stuck to the course, came here, did what he had to do.
- [137:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but he got taken a different way. Put in a cave on back rose.
- [137:18]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, that wasn't the Italian.
- [137:19]
Ty Schmidt
There's a chance iu Sick.
- [137:22]
Dan Orlovsky
Sick.
- [137:22]
Ty Schmidt
Goes down there, says you want to.
- [137:25]
Dan Orlovsky
Be a winner or what?
- [137:29]
Pat McAfee
That portal still open right now. Come home.
- [137:31]
Darius J. Butler
Five days for everyone. It's closed for everyone else. Miami and I. You have five days players.
- [137:36]
Pat McAfee
Oh, baby Jesus is staying in Miami. So what you're saying?
- [137:40]
Tone
Absolutely.
- [137:41]
Pat McAfee
Quarterback. What?
- [137:42]
Tone
Quarterback.
- [137:43]
Darius J. Butler
We got gunks that Duke quarterback's supposed to go through. There's rumblings happening right now.
- [137:48]
Pat McAfee
Okay, how much is Malachi, Tony, like player paid nowadays in the nil. Do we know?
- [137:55]
Tone
I got no clue.
- [137:56]
AJ Hawk
He's getting re upped, right? He'll get re upped, won't he?
- [137:58]
Darius J. Butler
Wide receiver of his talents that young, probably somewhere between 1 and 1 and 2.
- [138:06]
Pat McAfee
So what if somebody comes in and says, hey, 4 million, 5 million bucks a year, 2 year, 10 million. 2 year, 10 million. Come play wide receiver here. You don't think baby Jesus is going to say, wait a minute, I can walk on water. Right that way. Yeah.
- [138:16]
Tone
Yeah.
- [138:17]
Darius J. Butler
But if he goes somewhere else, you.
- [138:18]
Pat McAfee
Don'T have bread and fish.
- [138:19]
Darius J. Butler
You don't have Ed Reed in a. In a big hat cheering you up after losses.
- [138:23]
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you Ray Lewis and Carson Beck's face right before trying to go out to everyone ass go, dude. Okay, enough of this.
- [138:30]
Darius J. Butler
That lineup, it was insane.
- [138:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was. It's awesome. You forget about some of the old whites? Yeah, well, Jimmy Johnson just roaming it.
- [138:39]
Darius J. Butler
Jimmy was there.
- [138:40]
Conman
Vinnie. Tessa Verde.
- [138:43]
Pat McAfee
The Rock, calling him from Jumanji. That's right, his quads. I mean, what is he.
- [138:48]
Tone
That was crazy.
- [138:49]
Pat McAfee
Unbelievable. How does he do that?
- [138:51]
AJ Hawk
You think there's no body, lifts heavy weights.
- [138:56]
Pat McAfee
Lifts heavy weights. That's what. How you got to get there, huh?
- [138:59]
AJ Hawk
I don't know what he. He's absolutely jacked and shredded. How big and ripped he is.
- [139:04]
Pat McAfee
Just.
- [139:05]
Tone
It's.
- [139:05]
AJ Hawk
He's a different. Different human.
- [139:06]
Pat McAfee
He's got a cramp all the time. Right. I. I don't know. I don't know how the body works.
- [139:10]
Tone
But it looked like his right quad was cramping the whole time.
- [139:13]
Coach B.A.
Yeah.
- [139:14]
AJ Hawk
He cutting for like a, you know, for a competition or something like.
- [139:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he does look like a bodybuilder. He looks like he is in competition week right now. Yeah. You're not cramp.
- [139:27]
AJ Hawk
He did lose a lot of weight. So he has been leaner. Right. For like whatever roles he takes.
- [139:31]
Darius J. Butler
So he's the final boss too.
- [139:33]
Conman
Jeez, that's true.
- [139:35]
AJ Hawk
He's like what, 50 something years old.
- [139:36]
Pat McAfee
Is that right? He is the final boss. Yes. The. Remember, you can feel it cameraman.
- [139:44]
Conman
See.
- [139:47]
Pat McAfee
Rock is awesome. Does he always have goosebumps?
- [139:51]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, yeah.
- [139:53]
Darius J. Butler
When you're that shredded, they just always come out.
- [139:55]
Pat McAfee
They don't.
- [139:55]
Darius J. Butler
They have no fat to hide underneath because that's what goosebumps do. So they're just always there.
- [139:59]
Pat McAfee
That's the greatest. Rock.
- [140:02]
Tone
We needed him.
- [140:02]
Pat McAfee
Hey, I know genetics wise, you're probably way ahead of the game. Okay, than. Than us, we would like to know how we get those. Those squat. Just everything actually. Just send on over everything that we got to do. I'm not sure I'll ever be able to complete it because I assume it's going to involve more than 90 minutes. 90 minutes a day in the gym. Every single day. I think seven days a week. I think he's probably at least in there an hour and a half, maybe two hours. Is that what we're expecting?
- [140:29]
Tone
Where's.
- [140:29]
Conman
Where's.
- [140:30]
Pat McAfee
He's got to be eating.
- [140:30]
AJ Hawk
He's got to be eating perfect as well to be.
- [140:32]
Ty Schmidt
He's not. Dude.
- [140:33]
Darius J. Butler
Cheat meals, come on.
- [140:34]
Pat McAfee
Once a week.
- [140:36]
AJ Hawk
Once a week.
- [140:36]
Pat McAfee
Six or seven times a day. I assume he's eating some sort of meal.
- [140:39]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, probably. He's got like the protein pancakes and stuff like that that he. I don't know.
- [140:45]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if those are part of the day to day. I assume that is grilled chicken coming in.
- [140:49]
Ty Schmidt
Quinoa, probably broccoli, some avocado.
- [140:54]
Pat McAfee
What do you eat? What do you eat? Rice and chicken, right? Every day. Every meal.
- [140:58]
AJ Hawk
Not every day, but I enjoy rice and chick. Rice and beans. Had some of those last night.
- [141:01]
Conman
Delicious.
- [141:03]
Pat McAfee
What was it last night?
- [141:04]
Ty Schmidt
The chicharron was.
- [141:06]
AJ Hawk
There you go.
- [141:06]
Darius J. Butler
You guys had chichiron?
- [141:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [141:08]
Conman
So good.
- [141:08]
Pat McAfee
It was very good. Warmed it up twice. I mean the food that we had at the beginning. Ass. Maybe the most ash cheek spread we'd ever had on any particular plane. Actually said that this is poop. Yeah, he did. I am hungry. This is a poop spread right here. What are we doing? Can't have it. Did not tell the plane or the flight attendant. Just internal thoughts. Were thinking outside, man, I was real excited to eat this food. I'm very hungry, you know. And then it rolls out. It's like, this is poop. Little did I know the emptiness of the setup was some homemade Cuban food was coming out. We had plates.
- [141:49]
Darius J. Butler
Cafecito.
- [141:50]
Conman
So good.
- [141:51]
Pat McAfee
No cafecito. We did have a couple coffees on there though. So, you know, that whole thing, plates with. Felt like somebody brought it out of their kitchen on the plate. It was so good. So good.
- [142:01]
Darius J. Butler
That sounds nice.
- [142:02]
Pat McAfee
Plantains.
- [142:03]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, they were plantains.
- [142:05]
Pat McAfee
We had plantains on there.
- [142:06]
Darius J. Butler
That sounds. That sounds wonderful.
- [142:08]
Pat McAfee
We had some pork, I think. Was that pork eating? Is that what the.
- [142:11]
Ty Schmidt
That's what the chicharron is. Pork belly.
- [142:13]
Pat McAfee
And then there was chicken and onions on this other one.
- [142:16]
Conman
Perfectly cooked.
- [142:17]
Pat McAfee
And then it was reheated every time. I mean, it was.
- [142:20]
Darius J. Butler
Sounds like you guys had a good time.
- [142:22]
Pat McAfee
It was a good time, actually. Yeah. I feel like we did talk a lot about, you know, college football season, wrapping up college football maybe as a whole, you know, like. Yeah, it was a good. Yeah. Got late though, quick.
- [142:32]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, it did.
- [142:34]
Pat McAfee
I mean, that thing got real late. And all of a sudden everybody's eyes got real heavy in that plane. Connor and Ty sit next to each other at the table. You know, that's our seat. Yeah. We had like head on shoulder. Head on head.
- [142:46]
Darius J. Butler
Who's sat across from Thai.
- [142:49]
Ty Schmidt
Son of a. Yeah. Hey, you're telling me. Got those big fat legs all. I mean, I. I basically had this. And this is no disrespect to Bone.
- [143:00]
Pat McAfee
I.
- [143:01]
Ty Schmidt
The big fat legs was a little bit of a shot. I basically had to sit cross legged on my seat the entire way.
- [143:07]
Pat McAfee
Crisscross applesauce.
- [143:08]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly. Because bone was just.
- [143:10]
Pat McAfee
But the food was so good.
- [143:11]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. The chicharron, you know, kept me coming back from more. So that was all right.
- [143:15]
Pat McAfee
But they were cuddling. You know, they were kind of cuddling on the seat.
- [143:18]
Darius J. Butler
Did you hear about earlier in day, who was cuddling?
- [143:20]
Pat McAfee
No, who was it?
- [143:22]
Darius J. Butler
There were some naps taken and there was some boys sharing a bed together. I don't want to say who it is. I don't want to out them, but.
- [143:27]
Pat McAfee
There'S nothing wrong with this, boys. Nothing wrong with this.
- [143:29]
Darius J. Butler
They were pretty close to each other.
- [143:30]
Pat McAfee
I like that we're making the most of you know, the amount of space that we had. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. We'll never know. We'll never know. I'm happy you guys took a little snooze. I'll tell you what. Yesterday just kind of all blended in. Then all of a sudden, walking down the sideline to start the national championship game. Of course, then Jake Paul standing there.
- [143:56]
AJ Hawk
Jake, just stand right there as you're going live.
- [143:59]
Pat McAfee
There's a camera right here. And then Jake Paul standing right next to the camera person face at the same place as the camera. And I'm talking to it. I'm like, well, I mean, I have to address this, right? Like, I don't know. Nobody at home sees this, obviously, but I got to talk to Jake. Nice to see Jake. Yeah, he's moving. He's mountain. He's talking a lot. It felt like he was pretty comfortable. Just bought, what, 40,000 acres or something. He's got this new, like. Like, I don't. Fantasy land. I have no idea what it is. This dude, he's a hustler, a businessman, and I command. Committed to boxing. Has he not been much more committed to boxing than I think anybody has given him credit for? We talked to him at the beginning of this journey. Remember? He was like, I found the thing that I am supposed to do that helps me be who I'm supposed to be, teach me so many life lessons. He did his whole thing at the beginning of his boxing run, and then now it's like, what, 10 years later? He's still eight years later, not even seven years, whatever it is, every day of this guy's life, he had been committing just to boxing. And boxing, it's like he could do so many other things. He already wealthy. He's invested in so many things he's done. He's, like, committed to boxing. It's like I'm fascinated by the Paul brothers and Jake. I don't know how he's on the field for the national championship, but he was. He was almost in the end zone for the whole thing. Yeah. And he was talking. I thought he was going to be right. I thought that's who I was going to be talking to. I was like, no, he's pretty good. Good for him in his recovery. He looked cool, though. He had those. Oh, yeah, yeah. What was he talking about my jacket for?
- [145:25]
Tone
Yeah.
- [145:26]
Darius J. Butler
Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
- [145:28]
Pat McAfee
Got that jacket from David Allen in October. As soon as I saw it. Maddie, that's national championship there. Then when I looked at it, to take it to national championship. I was like this seems a little loud. National championship in Miami.
- [145:41]
Conman
Miami.
- [145:42]
Tone
Tobola.
- [145:44]
Pat McAfee
Shout out to Tim Tebow.
- [145:46]
Tone
Yeah.
- [145:46]
Darius J. Butler
Next year's in Vegas. So buying your outfit now one week later than this year.
- [145:52]
Pat McAfee
So that's awesome. Good call like that.
- [145:57]
AJ Hawk
One week later. So is there.
- [145:58]
Conman
Is there another two by January coming.
- [146:01]
Darius J. Butler
Back here somehow next week bonus ball here. So.
- [146:06]
Pat McAfee
Didn'T even happen. I don't know what's going on.
- [146:09]
Darius J. Butler
It's.
- [146:10]
Pat McAfee
It is. Well, I don't like the happening with the negotiation for what the College Football Playoff can be. It's like I hope we're not at the stage of the College Football Playoff where we're already to trying. Trying to back end deals and holding up actual deals that can make the College Football Playoff better. You know. Now granted, I don't know if that's exactly what's happening with every rule that could potentially be changed. Like the champions, are they automatically getting in top five ranked ones? I don't know if that conversation is getting affected by like well we want it to be 16. And then Petiti is allegedly saying from the Big Ten Conference, I guess the champion. The champion kind of say what they.
- [146:46]
Tone
Want to say right now. Yes.
- [146:47]
Pat McAfee
Petiti knows that. I guess he's got Thor Hammer in there. It does. And he knows that in that conversation. I would like there to be a guarantee it's going to 24. If it's going 16. It's like we already at the stage of making like future guarantees and a deal to make something better. Like I don't. And it's 16 teams. The right answer. I'm not saying it is. I'm not saying it's right. Nick Saban said we just need the right 12.
- [147:05]
Darius J. Butler
Pretty cool. Yeah.
- [147:06]
Tone
For like last two years we got the. They got it right. The Natty. Yeah.
- [147:10]
Pat McAfee
Best three teams. Yeah. 12 teams, 16 teams, 24 teams. There's going to be two to three teams that we're all going to see very quickly. Bang, boom, boom, boom. They're probably going to do it. Ole Miss fighting against Miami the way they did. I. That was a surprise to me. That was especially after watching what Miami did with Indiana. It's like that Ole Miss team deserves a lot of credit.
- [147:29]
Tone
Yeah. I didn't expect him to beat Georgia.
- [147:31]
Pat McAfee
Exactly.
- [147:32]
Darius J. Butler
No.
- [147:32]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Winad's real deal. Do we have any updates on if he's going? Like I told him at the Flow Rider party.
- [147:39]
Darius J. Butler
When did that was there.
- [147:40]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. He was cool. Came up nice chance to chat with him. I. I think he had Family with him. I mean, we're post Flow R concert. Yeah, this is. This is Post Talk on stage. Fl waiting for talk to exit stage, sign autographs, get back to where we are so we can leave. Y. Trinidad, is Talk still with us.
- [147:59]
Tone
Or did he sign with Flow Ride recruited him?
- [148:02]
Conman
I guess.
- [148:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. He's been commenting to the Instagram boys and the official official Flow Flow Rider page. So I think he is kind of working an angle. Trinidad comes over though, and I don't know him, just felt obligated, you know, to tell him, like, hey, if you don't get the six year, you look like an NFL guy. Not that my opinion matters, but I'm just telling you, watching you play, first thing I'm saying to this guy, this is. Hey, Trinidad, nice to meet you. Somebody brings him up. Hey, he wants to meet you. Oh, very nice to meet you, dude. Not that my opinion matters, just immediately. Right. I don't know how long we're going to be talking. I need to let you know that we, we feel this way. You look like an NFL guy whenever you're playing against Miami, you're throwing the spots. Obviously your competitive juice and stamina, your leadership, like, it felt like you knew what you were doing. I, I think in my eyes, you look like an NFL guy whenever you're playing against that Miami defense. So if you don't get the six year, it doesn't fucking matter. He goes, oh, thanks, man, but yeah, no problem. All right, see you later. That was the entirety of the conversation. And, and it's like, I don't need to be the one to make you feel justified with anything, but I just thought he needed to hear from outside source, like, hey, bud, I think you might be a fucking Sunday guy. Which he probably was been told because you're a State guy, you know, you're a little undersized, maybe. A lot of people have told him, like, yeah, college is. You're a college guy, you're a college guy. It's like I saw some shit that I thought maybe could be maybe good backup, maybe get an opportunity. I mean, who knows what he could.
- [149:26]
Tone
He can spend it, got the athleticism and he can definitely spin it in the biggest moments. I feel like we saw him bring out his best ball. So. Absolutely the Sunday guy, in my opinion.
- [149:34]
Pat McAfee
Now, granted, if he could play another year at Old Miss, I mean, he's going to cook that. Yeah. But can the SEC ever beat the the North? Doesn't look like it.
- [149:42]
Tone
No cheating. You heard coach, you heard sa.
- [149:45]
Pat McAfee
He didn't say it was cheating. He just said it was a little different.
- [149:47]
Darius J. Butler
No, he said it's all legal now. Actually, they were.
- [149:50]
Tone
Oh, so that's what a lot of.
- [149:52]
Pat McAfee
People say on the Internet. Be a friend. Tell friend something nice might change her life from a singular team on me. We appreciate you all. Shout out, college ball. You've been a hell of a ride. Team on three. One, two, three. Goodbye.