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PMS 2.0 1495 - Tony Romo, Joe Montana, Chargers OC Mike McDaniel, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Pat McAfee
Wonderful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this super bowl season. Tuesday, January 27, 2026. This program begins now. Football is the greatest and we are currently in super bowl season as we await the last game of football season, the super bowl out in Santa Clara as the New England Patriots are back in the big game taking on the Seattle Seahawks. Now it has certainly been some time since we saw Patriots dominance, but we're potentially at the tip of the spear for the next dynast. Coming out of the Revolution region, 23 year old quarterback, legendary head coach, a bunch of dogs and good decisions have found them in a place that they were certainly not supposed to be this season. This early into the Vrabel era and Drake May era that is cooking up there in cold ass New England. Then on the other side of the map, literally, I mean you're talking, you're talking really far apart. Oh yeah, you're talking, you're talking New England way over yonder and then Seattle way over yonder. If this was seven game series like in NBA, that'd be a toll. Yeah, it'd be tough, that would be a real, real toll. But all the way on this side doesn't get nearly enough conversation by anybody in the football conversation. The Seattle Seahawks back in the super bowl they also had a run that they would consider dynastic potentially. Talk about 30 years from now as one of the great times in NFL history when the legion of boom, Russell Wilson, Pete Carroll were taking the world by storm. And we were getting glimpses at their practice facility right there on the lake as Pete Carroll, 65 year old was spinning it and everything was competition. Will Ferrell was going in there. I believe they had other athletes coming in shooting hoops. It was a magical time in Seattle that we were learning about that then collapsed, kicked out the door, knew who is this guy comes in. They paint over some of the walls.
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Anthony De Julio
Some, not all the walls.
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Pat McAfee
We have learned when it was originally reported that they were painting over the walls, we had been told that not a single sliver of the paint that was here needs to be seen going forward. Which I had seen a building do personally whenever it changed over from one era to a next, which I thought was a bad idea. Because the reason why this building exists and the reason why we are the team, who we are and the reason why we do what we do is because of everybody that had already done it. So why are we trying to cover up the past of a business that has been built on the backs and the shoulder Pads of these particular men. Why would you want to bury that just for your own personal ego? Well, I guess what happened in Seattle is it's not our personal ego. We left some of them up, but there are certainly blank canvases for us to write our own here. And they are doing that very quickly. In Seattle they got dogs across the board and they're not like look at me type dogs. Which is good because in Seattle you're not going to get a lot of look at me. You're way out there. You're far away from the conversation and in the NFC West. Seattle Seahawks. You know how cool McVeigh is. Yeah, McVeigh is so cool. The man, he's in Los Angeles. Looks cool, talks cool, acts cool, his team's cool. Super jacked attractive. Matthew Stafford, mvp. Gonna be the mvp.
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Anthony De Julio
Cool teeth.
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Pat McAfee
They won the Super Bowl. They're in Los Angeles, right? Great teeth. Beard too. Great dad back. Yeah, we're seeing great dad, great husband. Whole thing we're seeing that he goes San Francisco Zane by Corey. Kyle Shahan. I don't think so. Still looking so cool, that thing. Then he's down at beach house, backwards hat, throwing football across the street. Maybe boozed up into a goddamn garbage can or whatever. Strong beard, so cool. George Kittle, his wife has a show that's how popular that that whole team is. Wife's have show over there because of how popular. San Francisco 49. I mean you talk about the greatest of all time with the boom. I mean everything they have. Seattle Seahawks. I don't know what that was.
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Anthony De Julio
Talking about the electrical substation.
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Pat McAfee
Now that is part of the conversation and John lynch is taking it very serious. But whenever you talk about NFC west conversations, Seattle Seahawks not even in the top 20 probably for most conversations about the NFC west, let alone the entire NFL. And then now here we are. They were the number one overall seed in the nfc. They're now in the super bowl with a brand new quarterback that doesn't look like the same old Darnold. It's a brand new Darnold. McDonald might be a football computer like Signetti is in a team full of dogs that are just impeccable. You bring Cooper cup back home. He seemingly still got it even though the LA Rams told him he doesn't anymore. Allegedly that's coming out now. So it's like these two teams, very improbable. These two teams, awesome stories. These two teams represent football very well. I'm thankful. This is our last game. Seahawks favored by four and a half with 74% of the bets is exactly where over the toxic table. Ossconer and anti Schmidt con man. New England Patriots fan wants to be. A lot of people betting against you guys as the underdogs. Everybody thinks this is just a flash in the pan, the easiest trip back to a Super bowl in the history of dynastic type runs. What is your mindset like as we sit here 12 days away from the Super Bowl?
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Anthony De Julio
Yeah, being the underdog, I've seen a lot of people kind of pull up clips from, you know, 2001 when the Patriots were going to kind of start this entire thing off against the Kurt Warner Rams. But today, you know, just gratefully smitten once again.
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Pat McAfee
What's that?
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Anthony De Julio
Gratefully smitten? You know, I am just still bouncing around as if this has is the first Super Bowl I've ever been able to experience as a Patriots fan. And just the perspective of it, you know, going back, you know, through the season, I've seen a lot of people say, remember when, you know, Jalen Carter spit on Dak Prescott, how far we've come since that game? And I, and I kind of take myself back there just to the expectations of the season. And it wasn't even playoffs. It was, hey, let's just make sure we got this thing going in the right direction. Let's make sure Drake May is the guy for sure. Everyone had confidence in it, I think, but just knowing for, you know, a primetime game in Buffalo, is he going to be able to go and deliver? He did that kind of started the entire 14 game regular season win streak. But even going back a year ago, you know, we're seeing all these coaches get hired and stuff and it puts me in that mindset as well. The playoffs, as a Patriots fan, were so far away. Not, not even a story at the beginning of the season was us going to the playoffs A year ago, though it wasn't even on the radar. You know, you could imagine it, but you felt like you were living in a fairytale land. If you told me a year ago that the Patriots would be in the super bowl playing against the Seattle Seahawks, I wouldn't believe you. I would want to, but I wouldn't even be able to get myself there. So I think just once again, waking up as a Super bowl fan, again as a fan going into the big game with real, real want and desire for a team to win, I've gotten used to, hey, yeah, I'm glad the Super Bowl's here because I can't wait to bet on the national anthem. You Know, I can't wait to bet on, on what Gatorade color is going to come out at the end when whoever team wins. Now I don't have to care about that stuff that I never cared about in the first place. Now I can go back to what, what the super bowl is all about and that's cheering for your team. Cheering for the team that is once again there. I mean this is the 11th time they've clinched a birth for the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl. And I, I believe I've been alive for nine of them. So it is just one of those things where you can't wrap your head around it as you.
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Pat McAfee
The Lions have never made it to the Super Bowl.04 Teams have never made it to the Super Bowl. Yeah. During his lifetime.
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Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Nine year NFL vet, fresh out of a brutal snowed out situation. Thank you for battling the elements. Darius J. Butler, D Bus, obviously drafted to the New England patriots. This dude, 11 Super bowl bursts. He was been alive for nine of them. For a large, a large portion of his developmental years he was going to a parade like every other year, let alone the Red Sox and the Bruins and the Celtics and the New England Revolution, oh, the Reds. But for football his whole life, I think he got like desensitized to it and then they did have a little bit of some shite years where there wasn't hope. And now he's back. I think that's why he's been so giddy. You know, I think younger years, first dynasty, wouldn't have felt exactly like this at this stage. But after a little bit of taste to suck, just a tiny taste of suck that they had, which once again, the Detroit Lions have never made it to the Super Bowl. That'd be a tough thing.
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Anthony De Julio
I mean the last seven years, as a Patriots fan, I don't think you guys can really wrap your head around.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, don't even get into that.
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Anthony De Julio
No, but seriously, when you are that hated as a fan base, once you do go to the bottom, it is so loud. Like for the Lions, they've always stunk. So it's never like, oh, you remember? No, because they don't remember. They've never been there. They don't get it. When you are at the top and then you go all the way down to the bottom, your quarterback leaves and wins the super bowl somewhere else.
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Tony Romo
So everyone.
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Anthony De Julio
So the coach that you love, it was never him. It's not him. He didn't have anything to do with it. It was the quarterback that left like everything Collapsed in such an ugly, ugly way. So the Lions can't. They can't understand that as fans, because it's always been ugly. It's always been gross. It's always been something you don't want to be a part of. Whereas the Patriots were the creme de la creme in the world of sport, not just football. Go down the lines of what teams want to be. It was the Patriots. So to kind of don't act like you guys know what it's like. Exactly. Don't act like you know what it's like until you've been to the top and you've been to the bottom in that order, by the way. And then back to the top.
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Ed
Are these assholes trying to make us.
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Pat McAfee
Feel bad for them?
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Ed
Is that what I'm hearing?
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Pat McAfee
One half of the Hammer Cowboys, Pittsburgh Steelers fan Tony Diggs. They just had a separation of coach because of lack of playoff success. Now they got Coach McCarthy in there. But yeah, I think what you're hearing is you don't know what it's like, brother.
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Anthony De Julio
No, you don't.
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Pat McAfee
From the top floor to the basement, as quick as you do. Especially with every floor you're going down. A lot of that. A lot of that down the body is what he's saying. I'm not saying he's right. I'm just saying that is his argument that I did not expect to come out of his mouth today. Did you expect what he just did? Right.
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Ed
A thousand percent. These are the worst. They're the absolute worst people on all of earth.
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Anthony De Julio
And that's how, you know, right there, boom. Then that's where we want to be. That's when you know, like, that's why I'm so smitten. Because people. People don't like with gratitude, of course. Gratefully Smith. People don't want to give the Pats credit. People are starting to turn on Drake May, which, I mean, we are.
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Pat McAfee
Right.
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Anthony De Julio
This is our wheelhouse.
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Darius J. Butler
Sweet boy.
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Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
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Ty Schmidt
No, exactly.
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Anthony De Julio
He's a great.
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Darius J. Butler
He's a great man.
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Anthony De Julio
He is. He is just one. He's a good Christian. He's good quarterback. He's a good leader. He's soon to be, I'm sure, a good father. I know he's a good husband. I mean, we've all. We've all watched Bakemas. He is in and Michael's corner at all times. I mean, the guy is perfect. But if you're outside of the realm of greatness, which everybody but Patriots fans are. You don't understand it.
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Pat McAfee
This is What Tyron was talking about with you Massholes, the whole thing you just did right there, obviously you took an opportunity and you, you certainly made the most of it, as you should. They're back in the Super Bowl. There's nothing else anybody else can really say. And that's kind of what these two weeks are all about.
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Darius J. Butler
Yeah, and, and they're big underdogs, huge underdogs in the super bowl. And that's why we're in this cycle right now. We had another hiring obviously today, but that's so, so important to get your head coach. You had the head coach Belichick, who was the head coach in the GM for so long, and then you got lucky getting Tom Brady in the sixth round and he goes on to of all time. And now you're looking at hopefully chapter two of that if you are a Patriot fan. Obviously I was high on Drake May. I said taker number one. So I feel great about him being where he's at and hopefully he continues to build his success. And you see the building there you have Josh McDaniels, who we assume is going to be there for a long time with Drake May. So it is a very, very good spot to be in if you are a Patriot fan. And yeah, they have been hated for a long, long time. The great teams, the great players. You're always going to have a large number of people fans and then a large number of haters who want to see you fail. So now you're in a great spot because you're back in the super bowl, but you're also in a spot where everyone is rooting against you because there is another great story on the other side, more of a redemption story with Sam Darnold and then kind of a new school coach, Mike McDaniel, you know, another mastermind on defensive side of the ball. So it's a great matchup. But yeah, it is an unbelievable story to see this from New England because we've seen teams suck for so long. We've seen teams have great runs and they just fall off a cliff and kind of. The Raiders. The Raiders, before our time, they were a great team. Just win, baby. They had great defenses, they had great quarterbacks, great coaches. John Madden, one of the greats of all time, to go from the sideline to the booth. And then now, since we've kind of been alive watching football, they've sucked. So, like you can go from the penthouse to the shithouse and stay down there. So to see what they've been able to do it obviously Starts with ownership with Robert Kraft and then, you know, getting the right coach and then getting the right quarterback and they look like they're in a great spot going, okay.
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Pat McAfee
So we do have some breaking news that could potentially get people back to where or to where the Patriots are maybe for the first time. Joe Brady hired as the head coach for the Buffalo Bills, which I think Debo was just alluding to. Congratulations, Joe Brady. An ascension in the football world from LSU offensive coordinator with Joe Burrow and the boys whenever they win the national championship to the Carolina Panthers with Matt Rule that ends up not working out, then goes up to Buffalo, becomes the oc, takes over for real as the OC and their offense changes. Now Josh Allen becomes an mvp. Now the Buffalo Bills offense is obviously a must watch. What will Joe Brady, who now knows the building very well, obviously understands the culture, which I think they appreciate up there, although they haven't been able to win, maybe brings a new mindset to it. He's an offensive coach as opposed to a defensive coach like McDermott. McDermott has withdrawn his name from any head coaching openings for a year. He's probably going to sit it out and see what the coaching cycle looks like next year. But now Joe Brady goes from offensive coordinator to head coach. Obviously your quarterback was sitting in on meetings. He certainly made it known that he liked Joe Brady. Obviously. What are your thoughts on his hiring? D But I like that the system is not going to change for the offense. I like that the language will remain the same. I like that he has a familiarity with Buffalo, understands what it could be like as a Buffalo Buffalonian. Other than that, I don't know if he has what it takes to be a head coach. I guess we just kind of find.
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Ty Schmidt
That out right now.
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Pat McAfee
That is kind of what we do in real time, Darius.
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Darius J. Butler
Absolutely. We all see it and one thing we definitely know is that he has a good relationship relationship with the quarterback, been there for a long time in different roles and now he is the head man. So maybe we do see a little bit of change with the offense. They become more of a run heavy team with the offensive line and with James Cook who led the league in rushing this past year and you know, we saw Josh Allen take the steps of being able to take care of the ball more until it got to the biggest moments. He definitely turned it over. But when you become the head man and now you don't have the defensive head coach, Deshaun McDermott or whoever that head coaches over you saying, hey, this is the game plan, I want. This is the things I want. Maybe they are a little wide open. Maybe they change things up. But the relationship with the head coach and the quarterback, a lot of people say, hey, don't hire Josh's friend. You know, if you got a good coach, you need a good relationship with the quarterback. We saw it with Jacksonville, Liam Cohen, we've seen it in other places. You need that relationship. They don't need to be best buddies, but they definitely have to have a game plan going into every game and then hopefully to get to the next, the biggest step that they have to get, which is a Super bowl championship. And you have an MVP caliber quarterback. So you have that question. You have that box check. Now you got to get that defense in order. You got to make the right hires. We know how important the staff is. But I'm interested to see, man, Joe Brady, he was the hot name off that 2019. We all saw or thought he would be a head coach in NFL probably two, three years after that. It took him a little longer. But I think going through those different roles in the NFL, having some failure in Carolina, it's kind of like we see with the quarterback, you learn things along the way. And now I think, I hope this works out because, you know, I want to see Josh Allen win. I want to see Joe Brady be successful now, obviously with New England and Miami and all these different teams and it's be a great storyline going forward, but I hope this works out.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. And you talk about Josh Allen, obviously, we all did because he's the mvp. I did as well. But don't forget James Cook. With Joe Brady calling plays and designing, everything went off. He's become one of the top running backs in the league. So Joe Brady, very diverse whenever it comes to the offense and their offensive line. AQ ship named him the number one O line in the business. So Joe Brady on the offensive side has seemingly had a lot of success. Always has a good fade. Do I like any white guy that has good fade? Okay, I think I would go back. Justin Timberlake always seemingly showed up publicly with a good fade when he wasn't in his perm years. Tim Tebow always had good fade for Caucasoids.
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Anthony De Julio
Yeah, Chet Hanks.
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Pat McAfee
His fade would certainly come together.
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Anthony De Julio
He's got some Jamaican.
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Ed
I think he's half.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, he's an honorary Jamaican.
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Pat McAfee
I don't know if that's true.
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Anthony De Julio
That's what the comments would tell us.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, well, obviously if the comments are accurate, we'll certainly ride with that guy's A talent though, we will say absolute talent. Absolutely. Kelsey always has great fate. Joe Brady always has good fade, which is good news. We're going to be joined here in a matter of moments by somebody who is, you know, obviously been seen by a lot of people through his football days. But what needs to be kind of talked about a little bit is his actual resume. Okay, let's go back through the person who's about to join us. Athletic career, one of the greatest non professional golfers to ever exist. Yep. Okay. Could have been professional golfer probably, we assume if full time commitment, commitment was in there. Three time Player of the Year for D1 Double A in college football, he was the D1 Double A Heisman winner. Okay, that's the, that's the best ever. In high school in hoops, which we were just talking about golf in high school and hoops, he averaged what, what did he average?
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Ty Schmidt
24 points, nine boards, five assists. And a guy who he played with who played in the NBA for like 17 years said this guy could have a thousand percent played in the NBA.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so he could have been an NBA.
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Ty Schmidt
That is the guy who was speaking on, who was going to join us.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so he could have been a professional basketball player as well. Okay, so professional golfer could have happened. Professional basketball could have happened.
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Ty Schmidt
He was a hell of a baseball player as well.
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Pat McAfee
Baseball could have made it. Okay, this fucking pies on.
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Ed
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
And this isn't even what we're talking about. Okay. What we're talking about is, oh, this guy would be an all pro four time Pro bowl quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys as an undrafted QB out of eastern Illinois. Ladies and gentlemen, color commentator who speaks to the biggest audiences in football every single year. They had a Thanksgiving record, 57.231 million viewers, the most watched and listened to regular season game in NFL history. The commentator, Paisano Tony Robo. Grazie for your time, my paisano.
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Tony Romo
I can tell you if I'd have known I was getting that, I would have came out a lot sooner. That was incredible.
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Pat McAfee
Well, we talk shit though.
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Tony Romo
Actually think I was good.
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Ed
Tony.
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Pat McAfee
We talk shit though too, because we are in the athletic world. So I think people do kind of have that tire thing, but I think your athletic career and your resume should be chatted about a little bit more because now the only conversation about you is your commentating. Now when you retire and decide to head into the booth to take the gig that you do, do you understand that you're going to be remembered forever as that guy? As opposed to Dallas Cowboys quarterback or professional potential golfer, anything like that. Did expect that whenever you took this job?
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Tony Romo
No, I actually remember Jim Nance told me. He's like, I think when you're all said and done, you're going to actually be remembered for announcing. And, you know, when you're a player that we're like, they're just talking. I mean, that's what I was like. I'm like, they're just talking. We're the ones playing. And I still feel that way in some ways, where I'm like, they're the guys who are important, and we get to tell their story and help build up the game. And certain people, I love that part of it. I mean, just seeing what happens as people move on, which you've created. I mean, you guys there, I mean, Tony, obviously, Ty, Boston, Darius, I mean, it's like you changed the whole landscape. The entire thing literally just got changed because of what you brought on and you guys did. And it's like. It's just completely different than when I grew up or even five, seven years ago. I'm like, some people have talent to kind of go do that. You guys show it. I love watching you guys. It's so much fun. It's just literally been a joy because it's like. But it's rare to go change the whole landscape, and I'm just so cool to be on with you guys.
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Pat McAfee
Well, hold on, Tony. This is not how this goes. Thank you, Tony. Yeah. You do not. We appreciate. Thank you. Hey, hey, Grazie, Tony.
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Darius J. Butler
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
You're not Italian, Tony.
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Tony Romo
Oh, great story for you. I am a rookie in the National Football League, and you'll find out here in 20 seconds, hopefully not one minute. But Bill Parcell is our head coach, and Tony, the late Tony Burano, who is a great coach, who was offensive line coach, and he's Italian. So is Parcells. And they're saying to Parcels like, tony, you got to get your pizza.
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Darius J. Butler
He's off.
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Tony Romo
He's terrible. All these things, and I'm sitting there like, I don't think he knows I'm not Italian.
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Pat McAfee
Tony, Romo is not Italian. Hold on, hold on. I am flustered here.
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AJ
So.
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Pat McAfee
So you are not. I've been calling you a paisan. Every time I talk about you, I'm 100% so sorry.
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Tony Romo
I actually let Parcels do it, too. I wanted to make the team, so I was like, hey, let's go with it.
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Pat McAfee
I got the alcohol.
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Tony Romo
You need a beat. So I. And then Sparano comes through one day. He's like, you know he's not Italian, right? And I was like, shh, what are we doing? We're all the same team here. I thought you pretend. Yeah, so I'm a mutt. I got a little bit of everything in me.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, well, muchos gracias, mi amigo, and thank you and merci beaucoup. And Grazzi. Okay. And I. I think I forget what the German is, but I could find it in there. Tony, let's talk about you. Obviously, do you keep up with fan response? And when there's 50 some million people listening and watching what you're doing, you understand that there's going to be reactions both incredibly positive and negative. Because I don't think there's ever been a color commentator that has been well liked. Because at some moment you're going to have to call a terrible time for a team's history. Like, there's going to be a devastating loss and a play by play person is going to have to be the voice of that loss and that celebration of the other team. So I think there's always going to be a sense of, hey, hatred that you are going to be associated with a negative thing happening for something that people love. Especially at the mass amount of people that watch football games. Do you keep up with the shit that gets sent about you? Do you keep up with the praise? Like, how do you kind of deal with 50 some million people having opinion on how you set the tone of a football game? How do you deal with that?
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Tony Romo
Well, I think it goes with territory. Like, people are like, what about the criticism here? I was like, well, I mean, do you get like, you guys go through this all the time too? It's like you're doing you and you got to be yourself and everything and you're trying the best. Not like you're never not trying your hardest to go be great at something. But then you look at it and it's like, I mean, your whole crew, the noise is the noise. It's part of being in this job. And to me it's like it's up, it's down. But at the end of the day, I mean, you don't really listen to things unless to me, it's like all the fans come up to me and say how much they love us and everything. And it's like, that's what I feel. As far as looking at stuff online, it just feels part of the process, but I don't think it really changes things. It's like, everyone likes you. I mean, they're gonna. They're watching you, so it has to be something there. But we're also commenting on their teams that are winning and losing. It's like, I don't like someone when he's not fully rooting for my team. So there's a balance. You try. I root for both teams. I root for guys who love the sport, who care so deeply and they want to win. It's like I want them to care as much as I did. And those are the guys you kind of, like, root for a little bit, and sometimes it comes across certain way, but I love it. It's a great job.
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Pat McAfee
How do you go about your preparation? Do you try to learn about the players more? Do you try to learn? Because I remember at the beginning of your run, you were basically calling out what was going to happen every single play, and it was epic. It was like actually romo ing, I think, is what people started calling it. It was like kind of your calling card for what you were doing at the beginning as you were trying to make your way. Kind of felt like you were shooting from the hip a bit, rode the emotion of game, but then you were calling out plays as well. Is that from your experience? Is it from the week Preparation, like, what is your week ahead of games? Whenever you're either talking or watching what you're trying to prepare for?
- [23:58]
Tony Romo
Well, there's a lot that goes into it. I think the biggest thing is it's like a coach or player, you're going to soak in it early in the week. In other words, you start watching the games and you start to, like, get a sense, you know, for who this team is and what makes them good. Where is their strengths and where's their. Their weaknesses? And so I sit there and eventually you get to a point where you're like, this is problematic for this team. And so I remember doing the Bills Broncos game and going into that game, I was like, okay, Denver's the number one seed. You know, obviously that's the number one team in the fc, but Josh Allen's best player, he's over here, so that's gonna be okay. Let's look at this. This is a great defense here. Oh, you know what? This is actually a bad matchup for Denver a little bit. They could have had other teams, but Buffalo is a great team. They can run the football. They're big. Denver's actually faster. It's almost like Denver was built to beat Kansas City, and it's like they didn't necessarily ready to go against Buffalo. This environment, you saw Buffalo impose their will and be able to run the ball on him. But I was like, that's tough. That makes it a lot tougher. So I'm like, all right, give the edge. And they got the quarterback. Okay, this is gonna be a tough game. Then all of a sudden you look on the other side and you're like, man, you can run the ball in Buffalo. But I don't see Denver running the ball in Buffalo. It just doesn't seem like that's who they are. They're right there. They're not going to oppose their will. So I'm like, now it's tougher. And then all of a sudden Bo Nicks comes out there and has an incredible game. Sean Payton calls a perfect game and all of a sudden you see, well, I forgot that Sean Payton and boat niches for real. And all of a sudden that defense got after Josh Allen in the past game a couple times and there's the game. But these games are like that. It comes down to these styles and fights. It's fun.
- [25:24]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so you trying to figure out the style going into the game and figure out weaknesses and figure out who is obviously doing it. You can potentially then predict exactly how a game's going to go or maybe expect a game to go a certain way. You whenever you just mentioned there that Sean Payton's the coach, I forgot about that. There are some quarterbacks that you certainly enjoy a lot more than others. It sounds like whenever you're calling games and why you think you've fallen in love with some of these quarterbacks because I think every color commentator does it. There'll be some quarterbacks because quarterbacks are the game. You know that. I mean you were the quarterback for a long time.
- [25:56]
Tony Romo
It's literally quarterbacks and punters. That's what comes down to which punter.
- [26:01]
Pat McAfee
By the way, only other one taking snap, you know, so it is. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. Puns and field. Yeah. And even on kickoff I'm getting a ball. Yeah. So it is about us. So now that it is about us, how much do you try to like, like separate human from play play? Like how do you kind of balance all of that while trying to tell a story and be kind of non biased towards anybody else that isn't that person, if that makes sense.
- [26:25]
Tony Romo
You have to be yourself. You know this. It's like at times you're the most loved person. At times you were the. I mean when you sit there and play the heel on game day, it's fantastic because I'm like, I don't Know if I could pull that card.
- [26:40]
Pat McAfee
You got some of those, too. It's amazing. Those sounds are those everyday life. That's just who you are.
- [26:44]
Anthony De Julio
Far.
- [26:45]
Tony Romo
It's terrible. Yeah, it's real. For me, though. I feel like you have to be yourself and just go with it, you know, I mean, it's like I got to this position because that I have some gifts that, you know, the good Lord bestowed upon me that I'm able to utilize at certain times. I mean, I feel like I want the game to be built up. I want certain players, you know, the guys who care deeply. I mean, to me, it's like I just want you to give everything you have. And if you literally care that much, everything, then you root for those guys, because not everyone gives every ounce to them. And then so many players do, but not all of them. And so I just root for certain people who love the sport and give it their all, like, fully.
- [27:27]
Pat McAfee
Well, we respect and appreciate the amount you're given to the sport and your energy. We ride the wave with you, you know, like, you're all that shit, the best. You know, we are there with you at 51 million people are there with you. Keep going, man. I also appreciate the fact you're not forcing anything. Feels like you are letting the game come to you. It does feel like you let the game come to you whenever you talk about it all. And we respect and appreciate that. Let's talk about some moves that were just made. Tony, go ahead. D butt.
- [27:53]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, Tony. One of those quarterbacks where it definitely comes through on the TV that you love him. Josh Allen out there in Buffalo, and now he's got a new head coach. I know you said in a ton of production meetings with Josh Allen, I would assume with Joe Brady as well. What's your thoughts on his hire and what's your thoughts on how Joe Brady will, I guess, evolve as a head coach now?
- [28:14]
Tony Romo
Well, I just heard that right there, so that's interesting. But I was thinking right after, you know, I didn't love them letting Sean McDermott go. I think he's a great football coach. Someone is going to get a great guy. I mean, I think if you're going to make that play, though, this is the only reason that you do that, is because if you have a stud in your building who might get a head coaching job somewhere else, you keep him in house. And the only way to do that is to hire him as your head coach. Now, I don't necessarily think Sean McDermott takes a backseat to anybody, but what Joe Brady did when he came on, you know, really changed the fortunes of this office for the last year and a half. I mean, it's been outstanding. They have a run game, they have the ability to play action. Josh Allen drops back, but he's just cleaning. Played the best football of his career last year and a half. Two years. So to me, it's like, this is the Joe Brady hire. It's a lot of the reason why Sean McDermott might not be there in some ways.
- [29:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because they're wondering, you know, over the last couple years, and you talked about Josh Allen and being his best and the offense being his best. Remember, as soon as he took over, James Cook let. James Cook became the thing. It was like, literally the entire game. And now he's top runner in the league, obviously. Just signed a new deal. Offensive line's good. Josh Allen is good. Are they good, or does Joe Brady help make them better, too? Probably. And now he's the head coach. He's in the building hiring a staff, though, tonight. That's the whole thing, you know, you've obviously. You played for the Cowboys long?
- [29:37]
Tony Romo
Forever.
- [29:38]
Pat McAfee
Is it your only team? Yeah, got it. Other than Dallas Mavericks. You played for two.
- [29:41]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, one day.
- [29:42]
Darius J. Butler
What?
- [29:44]
Anthony De Julio
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [29:45]
Ed
Scored 30.
- [29:46]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [29:46]
Tony Romo
Yeah. You're a kicker, too.
- [29:48]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [29:48]
Pat McAfee
What'd you say?
- [29:50]
Tony Romo
I say, yeah. And you're a kicker and a puncher, too.
- [29:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you're damn right. Absolutely. Picked a couple in preseason. Yeah. You get it? Yeah. You understand I heard you were popping and locked it out there with the Mavs. They thought about signing you for a playoff run. We don't know the bottom of it. You would have to certainly get to the bottom for that whole entire thing.
- [30:05]
Tony Romo
It's true. I was only about 42 pounds overweight.
- [30:08]
Pat McAfee
I thought, how's that back, dude, you're always doing the cat Cow on the fucking greens. Do you think. Do you choose the most ridiculous places to do those? Because they always get a photo of you on, like, a crescent of a hill doing the back stretch right on the outside of the green. You're an incredible golfer. We've all witnessed it. We are all very impressed with your golf game. But is your back. How is the back? Is that just going to be a chronic thing for you, do you think, or how do you. You. How do we beat it?
- [30:36]
Tony Romo
Oh, it's chronic. I mean, I've had two back surgeries. It's every day. My wife and kids know. It's like, all right, I got three boys, so it's so Fun. And they're like, all right, let's go play basketball. I was like, no problem. Just give me 34 minutes, glute exercises, the core work, and then I should be ready to go. And it's not an exaggeration. Sometimes when I'm sitting down there doing the cat calls and everything, and on the course of, I'm like, it's not. Not me choosing the worst place, it's my back choosing me. Here comes another picture. What are they gonna do? But, yeah, I like my back.
- [31:09]
Pat McAfee
It drops you at that spot. Got it. We should have a little bit more respect for that. Yeah. Because I'm always like, exactly. Okay, I apologize. And back problems are the worst.
- [31:16]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, the worst.
- [31:17]
Darius J. Butler
No joke.
- [31:18]
Pat McAfee
I mean, we don't want to pile on anything.
- [31:19]
Tony Romo
You know, you might know, think about Stafford this year. I mean, for him to do what he had back, remember, that was a little worrying, preseason. Then he comes out as an mvp, it's like, that might be a little reason why he might not come back. If you look closely, in my opinion, we'll see.
- [31:31]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so at the end of your career, I think Dak. Did injuries affect. Did the back surgeries come whenever you're playing? I don't remember this. And when you're making these decisions, you know, like Stafford, we. It's obviously been alluded to that maybe he doesn't continue to play or whatever, and they have to move on post Stafford, and I think that's been talked about a while. We would automatically, like, say, okay, he won a Super Bowl. I think everybody acknowledges his greatness. We think you're a Hall of Famer, and if now is the time to walk away, but people very rarely get to walk out on their own. You know, a lot of chasing the dragon almost happens, and. And I'm not going to say it's going to happen again, but I don't know. Often MVP season, if you're just to walk away, that would take a lot of, like. That would take a lot. That would come off an MVP conference title appearance.
- [32:14]
Anthony De Julio
Like, you're that close to Tony.
- [32:16]
Pat McAfee
That would be a crazy amount of human restraint. You know, that that comes. I agree.
- [32:20]
Tony Romo
You're so smart with the human dynamics, and you can tell people right away, I mean, you're able to switch in a second and change the subject, make someone feel comfortable or not. I see it so clearly. Like, with Stafford, it's like, people don't do this. It's like they come back, you're playing the best football of your career. You don't just stop, right?
- [32:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I don't know, Tony. I don't know. I don't know.
- [32:41]
Darius J. Butler
I don't know. Pat.
- [32:46]
Pat McAfee
You'Re the greatest. With Stafford. The game will miss Stafford if he does not play. And his teeth and his beard and everything's too nice for him not to cover the game. If he wants to get into a post, we obviously would like that. That.
- [32:57]
Tony Romo
Do you think question for you guys here with Stafford, he's a great example, and he was like, what's happening across the league now? You see with Sam Darnold, you saw Daniel Jones resurrection over there in Indianapolis before he got injured. We saw Baker Mayfield at the Tampa. It's like the wrong situation. Right. It's like you don't get to necessarily pick your parents, but, like, sometimes if you go to a nice home or something, you get taught earlier, you get taught better. These guys, they go to Shanahan, they go to McVeigh, they go to Kevin O'. Connell. You get these coaches and all of a sudden your career, and it's like, Stafford, I mean, he's been one of the best for so long, but he didn't get his credit until he went to la really fully. Right. I mean, we're talking about a top two, three quarterback pretty consistently for a while. I feel like maybe four, but it's like. I mean, he might play as well as anyone the last two years.
- [33:46]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, definitely. Perfect match with McVay, too. It felt like, you know, McVeigh felt.
- [33:50]
Tony Romo
Like that's the other part, that division. I mean, that. Would you like to go to the Cardinals if you're a coach, when you have to go against McVay, Shanahan and Mike McVe.
- [33:57]
Pat McAfee
Donald, good luck.
- [33:58]
Tony Romo
I mean, that's brutal.
- [33:59]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [33:59]
Pat McAfee
And also, we know about the report cards.
- [34:01]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [34:02]
Pat McAfee
And I like that we learned about the report cards, but I. I don't know if that's necessarily the place. Let's talk about a place that is back. And obviously, you played through the era. I was on football field as D Butt and AJ who joins in the second hour, were all part of it. This guy, through his formative years, got to enjoy it. Now he's back. Boston. Connor has a question for you.
- [34:22]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah. Tony.
- [34:23]
Pat McAfee
It's an honor.
- [34:24]
Anthony De Julio
You actually taught me a valuable lesson in this business.
- [34:26]
Pat McAfee
I think you might like me because.
- [34:28]
Anthony De Julio
You'Re a Pats F. I do now. I do now because you called, you know, Brady versus Mahomes Chiefs, AFC championship. Awesome. Then we got bad, and then I just started to hate you, and I Tweeted something awful about you and then you liked the tweet and I said, okay, this guy gets it. I love Tony Romo again. But speaking of those times, we are back in those times. The Patriots are once again in the Super Bowl. Drake May, Josh McDaniels, Mike Vraver, what do you think about that whole resurgence? And just so you know as well, you know, everyone talks about once your team is in a primetime game, you know, they're good again typically, especially for an east coast CBS type team. Once the Patriots got the Romo Nance booth, I think everyone in New England realized like, okay, there's something here and I know you were early on them, but how do you feel about what they've got going in? 23 year old Drake May with a young first year Mike Vrabel. What do you think?
- [35:22]
Tony Romo
Think, I mean it's been so impressive to watch. I mean this is a, this had all the makings. I mean this is early for me to say that I thought they'd be the super bowl, that wouldn't be true. And you guys know, I almost never get that wrong. So I feel like, I feel like when they hired and started in the offseason by the Crafts, making the decision to move on, they just were like, okay, we made the mistake last year. Mayo's not our coach for the future. They bring in and higher variable. That's the very starting point, point for this whole process. Then all of a sudden you say, well, Rabel, your CEO, you're that guy that they run it more than ever now in the league, the head coach. It's like, who's your staff, Pat Message earlier. It's like that staff is huge. Who, who are you going to have on your staff? Well, he's going to go get Josh McDaniels. It's like, whoa. And you got a young quarterback who's learning. And I'm pretty sure this happened a long time ago as well. His name was Tom Brady and obviously McDaniels was the OC at the time. But, but he ended up developing, having this incredible run together. I mean, you saw that run right there. That was. I've seen all these plays from Josh all these years, boss. You've seen all these plays, like if the weather was nice and it was third and four, he'd throw a wide receiver screen trying to run the clock out to Welker or Edelman. And then it's like at the end, we gotta keep the clock running. What's the safest call? But we still gotta be Aggressive and get a first down. Oh, let's bootleg and send everyone there. That way, even if you stack it, the clock still keeps running. But he's had these plays forever, and I felt like you saw the imprints and that was the starting point for them to make this run. And then Drabel's ability to sense and feel and get the collection of the roster altogether at sea. They had Chase on, and you. You probably know a story better than I do, probably in Boston, But Chase on comes in there. This is your outside linebacker, and he's the stuff. He got cut from Carolina, boy. And then he was on the practice squad for the Raiders. And Drabel looks at this dude and he goes, that guy could play in our system. He just hasn't gotten taught yet. The player development there, off the charts. This is why they're here.
- [37:15]
Pat McAfee
It feels like. Feels like the old Patriots, the good old days. They block a kick. They block a kick out there. Obviously, they make the smart play. They don't make it. The weather, it's ugly football. The weather's terrible. It's like this. We've seen this. We have literally lived this entire thing. And Vrabel's trying to shy away from that. He was talking to Coach Cower, and Coach Cower is like, you know, I've seen this before. Defensive coach, young quarterback up here and brave. Was like, I don't want to. Let's not. Didn't shy away from it, but was also like, hey, we got to do something vastly different here. That's like the greatest of all time, but it looks eerily similar. So the fans are like, oh, we're right back where we're supposed to be. They're loud. Tony, these. Tony, these are loud. And they know how to be.
- [37:57]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, the big. The big difference. And I saw him variable, sit down with Bruski, and he said Bruski told him he reminded him a lot of parcels. And I think the big difference between Belichick and Vrabel is like the personal connection with the players. Because Belichick was an unbelievable coach, obviously. Unbelievable game playing the week to week. He was going to have the team prepared. Vrabel's still going to do that. He was that type of player, player, teammate, coach. But having a personal connection with these different players in their different stages of their career, I think is the biggest difference. Obviously, two very different coaches. The biggest difference between the Belichick era and now what the variable era will be in New England. But, you know, obviously there's more ways. Thousand Ways to skin a cat.
- [38:35]
Pat McAfee
And on that. That's weird. People say that a lot.
- [38:41]
Ed
People hate cat.
- [38:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And how many different ways are there actually, I wonder.
- [38:44]
Anthony De Julio
Can't be a thousand.
- [38:45]
Pat McAfee
That'd be interesting. You think about the weirdos though, out there doing. They probably found a thousand different ways.
- [38:50]
Anthony De Julio
Where's Bill?
- [38:52]
Tony Romo
Someone used fire. It's weird.
- [38:54]
Ty Schmidt
There you go.
- [38:54]
Pat McAfee
Okay. That's a weird. That's. I just said it.
- [38:59]
Tony Romo
You guys just didn't say it.
- [39:00]
Pat McAfee
I got it, Tony. Yeah, that seems to be the jam. Yeah, it feels like that is kind of your thing. Riding the wave with you is an experience. You have to understand that, I assume because in real life that probably happens whenever you're talking to people. It's just like that in the. In the boat. It's fun. Fun. It's fun riding a wave. But you're just like. Whenever we do our thing. And I think you did try to reference that even though you're at 51 million and we're nowhere near that amount. There are people that are just like, hate who I am in real life and definitely on the Internet as well. And it sucks for them whenever I'm dropped into something, you know, like, I'm sorry that this is. I'm here, but I am here. I'm the same way.
- [39:35]
Tony Romo
I'm like, I'm not trying to have it bad.
- [39:36]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I know you don't like me. I know you don't like me and I'm here and you want to like this. Like, I am so sorry, but this is just how this is. So that's always going to exist. So I respect the fact. I see a lot of simpatico with the way you kind of go about doing your thing for me. So I. I have a lot of respect for what you do, but you are very much.
- [39:53]
Ty Schmidt
Ah.
- [39:54]
Pat McAfee
And I love it.
- [39:55]
Ty Schmidt
It's appointment viewing.
- [39:56]
Pat McAfee
It is. Yeah. Because you never know. We need you. On the next Alex Honnold.
- [39:59]
Anthony De Julio
Yes.
- [40:01]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [40:01]
Tony Romo
Oh, man. That was crazy.
- [40:03]
Pat McAfee
Did you watch that?
- [40:04]
Tony Romo
I actually just saw the clip of it, but I haven't watched it yet. But I literally just got back home and I was like, what happened?
- [40:11]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [40:11]
Tony Romo
So Free Solo, Mission Impossible. This is real. Like, it's like, what are we doing? Running man, the old movie. It's like we're just gonna watch someone die.
- [40:18]
Pat McAfee
So that's coming back with Glen Powell. Actually, I believe. I do believe it's out right now. Did you watch Free Solo with this guy, Alex Honnell? Tony, did you see Free Solo?
- [40:26]
Darius J. Butler
Yes.
- [40:27]
Pat McAfee
That was awesome.
- [40:27]
Tony Romo
That Was awesome.
- [40:29]
Pat McAfee
So there's a lot of those moments while you're watching this live, like you got the free solo sweaty palm sick feeling while watching something happen on tv. And I guess. I guess we haven't talked to him. We put the request in. We don't know if he's done a post climb presser. We do not know if he's done yet. But I would like to understand how hard he thought this was versus what he normally does, Tony, you know, and I think it would be something special to get you on the call for when he does this to the Eiffel Tower or something.
- [40:57]
Tony Romo
Oh, man, that'd be cool. I'm telling you right there. I'm like, I wouldn't go by the window. Forget about being outside. I'm like, that's with you. I mean, that shows you how special and gifted he is, though. Like, we're talking probably about the best in the world. World, I'm guessing, right?
- [41:10]
Pat McAfee
Like, yes.
- [41:11]
Tony Romo
So to me, it's like with someone so great and you're the best in the world at something, things get a lot simpler. And it's like, it's still ridiculously hard what he did for him, I guarantee. But for him, I mean, he just does things so perfectly. It's like Tom Brady.
- [41:29]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so Tom Brady goat. Okay, Tom Brady goat. In your eyes. Have you done like the best ball thrower, though? Have you done that whole conversation as well? What are your thoughts in history of ball? And you go back like, we got Joe Montana joining us in the next hour. Do you go back like Dan Marino's quick release with the way he was able to spin it? Do you. How deep does your judgment go? And do you do top fives and things like that whenever you're just kind of watching ball?
- [41:53]
Tony Romo
Yeah, I love analyzing. I mean, I love learning. Part of the reason I talked to. You know, you talk about when you study the players and coaches throughout the week, but a lot of time I'm asking questions I'll never use on air because I'm like, all right, why are you in 4i here? And like, I've learned so much stuff. It's like you knew coverages and all the stuff in football when I played played, but now I literally understand so much deeper level. You know, the reed technique in a corner and how to teach the hand placement for the D tackle and you know, the kickstart, the C, the A, B clamp. It's like there's a ton of stuff, but I just feel like I love studying and I Love learning. And part of that was the mechanics of the throwing motion. I love trying to perfect that. I mean, I went a decade without ever missing a day of throwing because I felt like I had to catch up. I was so behind as a young youngster, and I just. I remember when I figured I was like, oh, I think I'm starting to. And then it was like, bam. Not to make the ball go wherever I wanted. And it was like the game got easier. And I feel like you study other guys. Tom Brady had the best spiral. And it's like the ball doesn't. It's almost not spinning. It just stays, and it's so pure. And it looked effortless. And I remember just being like, wow. And then Aaron Rodgers threw a ball one time at the Pro bowl, and I'm sitting there, and I was the start of the year. He comes in and is.09 or 10, and he gets up there, and I'm like, okay, this is like Steve Smith show, really fat. He's gonna run down the field. It's like there's a rhythm to boom, boom. And you throw it. And all of a sudden he waits, he waits, he waits. And I'm like, he's gonna be 20 yards short on this dude. And then he goes, boom. And he launched his ball. And I swear it goes up, up, up. And when it's supposed to apex and come down, it just kept going and going and going. It all went like 80 yards in the air. And I remember just going, looking over, and I was like, yep, I can't do that. So that was the first time there's, like, guys like that where it's like, there's rare, right? You got that way far. Moreno, Everyone looked up to Marino. That was the other part. Montana was the best in that era. Elway's right there, too. Marino, I mean, legends. But they all asked Steve. Young ones. I mean, like, everyone kind of wanted to be Dan marino in the mid-80s. It's like they actually looked up to him, the other quarterbacks in the league. It's like, quarterbacks, they want to have what somebody else has. So Marino's right there with all them. I mean, I'm missing a bunch of guys. You got far.
- [44:13]
Pat McAfee
Well, you're not an Italian, so.
- [44:14]
Tony Romo
Damn, he's a great thrower. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
- [44:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah. You know, Italian.
- [44:18]
Anthony De Julio
So you.
- [44:18]
Pat McAfee
You weren't necessarily just going to guarantee Marino spot, Montana spot in there. We learned that earlier in the show. Man, I should have known that a long time ago. I've been Saying that a time long, I appreciate weird. It was weird. I appreciate your meticulous attention to detail. I think that alters how a lot of people will view maybe you calling a game. All these things you're saying you didn't miss a day for a decade throwing. You weren't worried about like, pitch count, anything like that? No.
- [44:42]
Tony Romo
People told me that when I first got in the NFL, I was like, I. I don't have time to pitch count. I won't be here. It's like, you have to like. I was like, I had sore arm stuff sometimes, but I'm like, it's more important for me to get better at throwing. It's like my job is to put a ball somewhere where only my guy can get it and faster and on time. And it's like I always had, you know, the Lord bless me with instincts.
- [45:04]
Pat McAfee
Right.
- [45:04]
Tony Romo
The ability to, like, feel like right here. J.J. watt loves that one. So to me, it's like, that's that sixth sense, you know what I mean? Where it's just like, I didn't do anything for that. I just got that from the Lord. It's like you just sense and feel where people are and you can do that stuff. But the part I couldn't do was this part. Make that throw under duress and hit my guy.
- [45:24]
Pat McAfee
I.
- [45:24]
Tony Romo
Because it's like, I made the NFL because of instincts. But then it's like, hey, that was awesome. I mean, I missed him by five yards, but I got to him faster than everyone. That's kind of my game. I needed to learn how to do that stuff because I wasn't very good when I first got in the NFL.
- [45:39]
Pat McAfee
Hey, you got great, though. You worked your ass off, which we respect and appreciate. Great football story. Great American dream story. Especially with the numbers that CBS is getting for these games in the afternoon that you're. You're voicing over NFL hands history literally every single time you step on a mic. Speaking of NFL history, there's been a lot of evolution at the coaching position. Who's the right hire? Who's the wrong hire? Tone has a question for you about it all.
- [46:00]
Ed
Yeah, Tony, Obviously, a lot of head coaching hires are happening right now, and everyone's judging them immediately. But you get to talk to head coaches literally every single week. Offense, defense, coordinators, everything like that. Do you care if a head coach is an offensive mind or defensive mind? And is there anything that you. That like you. If you were interviewing people that you would. That would be your singular focal point on what needs a head Coach needs.
- [46:22]
Tony Romo
To be a great question. Now, I don't care. It's more about the person. So I've had multiple owners, GMs call over the years and for advice on stuff. And I remember when Mike McDowell came out, I said, I'm telling you, this is the best hire in this cycle, if anybody cares. Okay, all right, tell me why. I'm like, well, number one, his defense, he runs exactly a similar style that I would if I was putting a defense in. In other words, we have bifrots, we have five coverages. We don't need a thousand, but they all look the same. So you put the front, the back end, all lines, and then everyone gets to play multiple positions because they understand it conceptually. So it teaches the concept of the defense. Not, here's your play. Your position is what you do on this coverage or on this play. So he teaches the concept of it. And I was like, that's a great way of teaching. And then on top of it, his instincts for the game, like, this is one of the most underrated aspects, is, okay, you're a head coach. We got culture. We need that. Right? Who you hire matters as much as anybody. Okay, Are you calling the defense? Are you putting the defense in if you're a defensive guy? Because I kind of need you to. It's in my opinion, whether you call it, I don't mind. But I do want you in your defense as part of the reason we're getting you here. And some guys get hired as the head coach, they hire the D coordinator. It's his defense now, and I don't love that. And then that eventually fades away a lot. Then offensively, you know, it's a lot to be the head coach and the play caller. It takes a special person. If you get that guy, you get that guy. It's Sean Payton, it's Sean McVeigh, it's Kyle Shanahan. It's like, we're talking the best of us, Andy Reid. I mean, we're talking about the top guys, but there's only five of them probably in the world, six at any given time. And so that's the guy. But you got to get the right guy who can understand how to fit these things together to fit these coaches and the right team. When Mike Vrabel's smartest team was hiring Josh McDaniels, that was literally as important as anything for the Pats. It's not going to get this other guy here, because that would have changed the entire complexion. That's why Mike Vrabel was a great pick. He knew who to go get to help the other side. So you can hire either side.
- [48:28]
Pat McAfee
How about McDaniel's name not even being up for any job?
- [48:31]
Anthony De Julio
Nope.
- [48:32]
Pat McAfee
No, no, no. I've done that. I've done that. We got Drake May up here. I like Vrabel. They're paying me good.
- [48:37]
Anthony De Julio
New England's great.
- [48:38]
Pat McAfee
New England's great. We got a chance to really do something. I done the head coaching thing. Definitely not this year. You know, turning it down. These fire coaches. McDermott just turned down basically any further interviews. McDaniel just signed up to be the offensive coordinator. How do you feel about that whenever coaches, like, take a year off after they get fired? We saw Peterson do that, right. He kind of took a trip around town before he ended up back at Jacksonville. Big Mike McCarthy obviously took a year off, joined us, went back in there. How do you feel about the fired head coaches? Like, Stefanski gets right back into it it with Atlanta. Salah goes D.C. for a year. Now he's back into head coaching with Tennessee. What are your thoughts on the transition out of the head coaching role?
- [49:19]
Tony Romo
Well, I think there's multiple fronts here. I think, number one, sometimes a break is needed, but also you get paid. You got to remember, it's like they still got to pay that guy. So if he goes and takes his other job here, it's like that payment can be different. You never know. That's part of it for some guys. Some guys just get burnt out a little bit. I do think it's important that you have. Have some sort of positive media aspect to what they think of you. And definitely across the league where those guys who are getting those things have had some people who think they're good coaches. Right. Other guys, it's like if you come out and have a really terrible season and it finishes like, all right, he's not that good. Right? Just. That's how people think sometimes. Like, well, sometimes there's things out of their control, injuries, aspects, who got drafted. But McDermott will be picked up very quickly. I mean, he's. He's outstanding. I feel like he's one of the best. Maybe sometimes you just need to hear a new voice. You know, that's part of it.
- [50:13]
Pat McAfee
Harbaugh. How about Harbaugh just immediately going to the Giants? Tomlin obviously moves on. There's a lot of crazy transition right now. There's 10 coaching jobs open.
- [50:23]
Tony Romo
I mean, that's.
- [50:25]
Anthony De Julio
You just.
- [50:26]
Tony Romo
I just never saw this coming. It's like I could see one of them Right. It's like, okay, but to have Tomlin, Harbaugh, McDermott before the season, I'm just like, that's impossible. Like, you're literally talking like three of the top six, seven versus the league. And it's like, I don't know, I remember Annie Reid making the joke like at the end of the year or something. They're like, are you coming back next year? You're gonna retire? He's like, I plan on coming back. I mean, if they'll have me, you never know in this league. And I was like, hahaha. And then I'm like, well, actually this is all happening all over here. I was like, gosh, Andy does know this league pretty darn well. But I just think you got to hire the right coach and if you don't have one, you ain't beating these other coaches. They're too good.
- [51:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, some real talent out there leading teams around the league. Especially with how quick turnover was in Chicago and Jacksonville. In New England, the expectation is going to be for you to be great quickly. Okay. Speaking of turnover, they had one in Dallas, obviously. Ty has the last question for you here, Tony.
- [51:22]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Tony, I would assume very few people know Jerry Jones the way that you do, and I don't know what you guys relationship is like, but what.
- [51:29]
Anthony De Julio
Did you, what did you.
- [51:30]
Ty Schmidt
There you go. Great. So Pop, what did you think of kind of just all of the. The rhetoric surrounding him. Obviously after he trades Micah, you know, people are killing him and saying that he's trying to, you know, lose intentionally or whatever. And then later in the season they get Quinn and Williams. It seems like whenever Dak is healthy, he's a top five quarterback in the league, but they haven't been able to get the defense right. I think they have. They're going on their fourth defensive coordinator in five years. Like, what do you think about all the moves that Jerry has made and how close do you think the Cowboys are realistically to, I guess, you know, winning the division? It seems like winning the super bowl is still a pretty tall task for them.
- [52:11]
Tony Romo
Hard to have that kind of turnover every year. I think what they tried to do is they tried to have a philosophy of hiring ex head coaches as the D coordinator. And if you just take a look, you had the Dan Quinn to the Zimmer and then to Eberflus, and I think that worked with Dan Quinn so well that they kind of want to stick with that. And then obviously it just didn't work out for multiple reasons. I mean, it's hard for anybody to come in losing a Micah. But I could see how this is going to be a win win for Green Bay and Dallas. I mean, if you weren't good enough to win the super bowl last year and you're about to sign Micah, then all of a sudden, now you're telling me, okay, I'm going to pay three guys in the top two or three in the league at their position. Dallas back, CD you got Mike, and then all of a sudden you got another receiver coming in now that you're.
- [52:56]
AJ
Gonna have to pay.
- [52:56]
Tony Romo
It's like you're not going to really be able to build this roster out fully. It's like, you know, they have lost, given up a lot of running yards in the playoffs near session. I mean, sometimes that's a little too short to think of just that for a reason to trade. But I can see getting four or five guys and that could actually equal, you know, something there with Mike. I mean, you've got now two big guys in the middle. It's a lot improvement. They've got another first rounder coming this year.
- [53:23]
Darius J. Butler
They'.
- [53:24]
AJ
1.
- [53:24]
Tony Romo
I mean, I just feel like they could end up getting three or four guys if you get the right coach in there. And I think they got a good one this year. He's got a, you know, pretty good system. They really like him. But this team could turn around in a hurry. I mean, this is, this is not a long one. It's. This can be real fast. I mean, now you got Harbaugh in the division too, so it's going to be tougher. But I see Dallas one or two players away with a scheme on defensive and making a run in the playoffs.
- [53:49]
Pat McAfee
Okay, I appreciate you. You basically said exactly what Jerry, you said, everything you just said right there. Can't stop, don't run. They got what they got. We got what we got. We tied. Neither of us won the, the Super Bowl.
- [54:01]
Tony Romo
They lost last season because of it, though, because you lost those games early and it's like, you know that you were too far behind the eight ball to get back in it. So you did kind of lose out of season in some ways.
- [54:10]
Pat McAfee
Hey, Jerry's cool. Jerry's cool. We've never got. He's never given us a chance. Jerry. We've always, we've been shoed out of the Jerry camp. Every time we put in a. A request, it's always just like bounced out the door. Basically, we are.
- [54:22]
Tony Romo
I'll talk to him.
- [54:23]
Pat McAfee
We saw him in Landman. We saw him in Landman. What a Scene. What a scene. That was unbelievable. Unbelievable.
- [54:31]
Tony Romo
That's right up his alley. I mean, that was him. And a 2T when he was younger. It was all in that world.
- [54:36]
Pat McAfee
You try and make something with your family. That's really what it's all about. And then kisses him on the front of him, walks out of there unscripted. One take. Get me through there. What a legend you are as well, Tony. Keep doing your thing, man. We appreciate it. We appreciate your contributions to ball. Not just ours, all of them. Golf, basketball, baseball, I assume. And anybody that's a D3 Heisman. Sorry. D1 double A Heisman I consider an absolute dog. And obviously you've proven to be more than that. So. Cheers, dude. Good luck out there.
- [55:06]
Tony Romo
Hey, thank you, guys. And I'm a terrible baseball player, so, you know, I appreciate the plug, but that one's not true. The rest of Robbie should be true, but that one was definitely not.
- [55:14]
Pat McAfee
But if you.
- [55:14]
Tony Romo
Thank you guys and thank you for making my days more fun. I always look forward to watching, too. Keep it up.
- [55:19]
Pat McAfee
You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Tony Romo.
- [55:23]
Darius J. Butler
Tony, not Italian.
- [55:26]
Pat McAfee
Unbelievable. How do I not know that? I've been saying that a lot. I feel like somebody should have corrected me at some point.
- [55:33]
Ed
Tony, today was the first time I heard you do that.
- [55:36]
Pat McAfee
Really?
- [55:36]
Ed
Yes.
- [55:37]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I don't know if that's true.
- [55:39]
Ed
I wouldn't lie to you.
- [55:40]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [55:40]
Anthony De Julio
Thought it was Romo Vecchio, though.
- [55:42]
Ed
Romo's too short to be Italian.
- [55:43]
Pat McAfee
I know, but it's just Tony, you know, and then drop the Tony.
- [55:47]
Ed
Doesn't help.
- [55:47]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I just assuming Anthony, what is he then? He said he's a. That's why I did. I did four different languages. I did four different languages.
- [55:56]
Ty Schmidt
I believe his paternal grandfather immigrated from Mexico to San Antonio. And I believe. I want to say his dad's name is Ramiro Romo.
- [56:04]
Pat McAfee
I would like to say that's incredible name. And I dropped. Muchos gracias first.
- [56:08]
Anthony De Julio
You did Bingo.
- [56:09]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so we got it. We cleaned up at the end. I apologize, Tony, for that. What a great time. He knows of our existence.
- [56:16]
Anthony De Julio
That's what wild.
- [56:17]
Pat McAfee
We know of his, too. Yeah, we rode the wave with him.
- [56:20]
Ed
Tony's always Tony and I respect that.
- [56:22]
Pat McAfee
And I feel like he is wildly intelligent, if I had to guess.
- [56:25]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [56:25]
Pat McAfee
He was sending things back to us before giving an answer that usually I do to people and they don't notice it. And then you just kind of keep rolling.
- [56:35]
Darius J. Butler
He kind of broke you down.
- [56:36]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I'm like, Tony don't be doing our shit to us. Hey, this is kind of our thing. Tony, you need to stop. So I respect the way his brain works, which makes me probably tend to believe that selfishly. That's why I like the way he probably calls Gabes. Yeah, and probably the same people that hate Tony, I assume, send me terrible things on a regular basis.
- [56:50]
Anthony De Julio
And which is why some people get frustrated, because we know how smart he is.
- [56:53]
Ty Schmidt
It's more entertaining than the alternative.
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Pat McAfee
Welcome back to oh yeah, that's a pepper thing. First up, we've got Harrison wrapping his doctor Tiny quilt so it feels at home.
- [58:09]
Ed
Oh, how tender.
- [58:10]
Pat McAfee
That's a pepper thing.
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Tony Romo
And over to Becca, who's whispering affirmations to her can.
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Pat McAfee
You're sweet. You're unique. You're the best thing I ever poured over ice.
- [58:18]
Joe Montana
She swears it makes it taste better.
- [58:19]
Pat McAfee
It's not a science thing, but it's a pepper thing. Why do they all do it all for that sweet, delicious, truly one of a kind.
- [58:25]
Joe Montana
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Pat McAfee
It's a pepper thing.
- [58:33]
Joe Montana
Football.
- [58:34]
Pat McAfee
I feel like I had to get a lot of words in there cause they're. My mind has been blown. We learned a lot about Tony Romo in the last hour. About how he prepares, how he dives into, you know, every single detail how much he wants players to care as much as he cared about it. He threw every single day for a decade so that he could become a better ball thrower for the good of his team, for the good of his career. He's an undrafted guy, D3 guy. And then we also learned he does just kind of fly out there and kind of do his thing. He is always Tony Romo, which we appreciate and respect. I thought that was an Italian man, Donnie Romo.
- [59:02]
Ed
You could see how you would think that, Tony.
- [59:05]
Pat McAfee
I got him. Paisan and Graz. We did the whole thing. No selling it. Like, excuse me. Come on. I just did the whole thing. Come on. Not even a prego. I know that. You know? Yeah. There has to be some sort of something going on. No response. Then from the back, Nick Maroldo goes, heads up, he's not Italian. Okay. All of a sudden I go, well, Tony, you're not Italian. Turns out we just look looked it up. His name is so cool. Antonio Romero Romo. Wow. Whoa. Antonio Romo is calling games. Okay. That's good for the league. Hey, Tony, we appreciate the hell out of you, man. Antonio is a sick name.
- [59:46]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [59:46]
Pat McAfee
Doc. Tables here at boss, Connor at Ty Schmidt. Ty, your thoughts on Tony romo after a 45 minute conversation with him, I.
- [59:52]
Ty Schmidt
Mean, just reaffirmed everything I already knew. I love him. I would take a bullet for him. I wish he would have maybe slipped in a hard count because. Yeah, well, you know, it's. It's one of those things where, you know, beggars can't be choosers. He gave us 45 minutes of gold and I feel like we kind of. Kind of bridged a foundation there. So I feel like that's not the last time we're going to be seeing Antonio Romero Romo on this show.
- [60:13]
Pat McAfee
Antonio is a sick name. One half of the hammer cowboys, Anthony de Julio Tone. That was a wild time back there. In a few first hour. What did you learn from Mr. Romo that we will move forward with now?
- [60:24]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [60:24]
Ed
And fun fact. Anthony translates to Antonio in Spanish and Italian. So just so everybody knows that.
- [60:30]
Darius J. Butler
Wow.
- [60:30]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [60:31]
Ed
I said at the end of last hour, there's people who we talk to. Tim Tebow being one of them. Someone else, I think for man Fernando Mendoza, Tony Romo, they're just. They just are who they are all the time. And people think it's a gimmick when they're on TV and stuff like that.
- [60:46]
Pat McAfee
Nope.
- [60:47]
Ed
That's just who they are. And I respect that.
- [60:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. I appreciate you being your true self. Not your NFL vet. Darius Jay Butler is here. He bought Tony Ram, a friend of the program. I think that's pretty cool little thing.
- [60:56]
Darius J. Butler
Love that. Tony was awesome.
- [60:58]
Pat McAfee
It was a good player. Did you play against Tony Romo?
- [61:00]
Darius J. Butler
I believe so. I think was that game, that game we played in Dallas. Fake punt, Dak, that was that.
- [61:06]
Anthony De Julio
You sure?
- [61:07]
Pat McAfee
Pretty sure, yeah. The only way I remember is I threw an incompletion and I think Dak Jobs on the field. I think he off to Zeke. I don't know, but I don't know either. It could have been tight.
- [61:19]
Darius J. Butler
Johnny Rumble, I don't know. We gotta go back and see. But I think I played against him.
- [61:24]
Pat McAfee
We just ran 13 or 13, I don't know. It was incomplete in Dallas.
- [61:30]
Darius J. Butler
I mean it was a time.
- [61:31]
Ed
Did you guys lose 42 to set? Did you guys lose 42.
- [61:36]
Anthony De Julio
To seven?
- [61:37]
Ed
It was Tony.
- [61:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Tony Robo.
- [61:39]
Ed
He threw four touchdowns.
- [61:40]
Anthony De Julio
Damn.
- [61:41]
Pat McAfee
I remember he got the ball at the 16 for his first drive. We. We lost four yards in the first three downs. We showed up, we go at the punt.
- [61:51]
Anthony De Julio
Fourth and 14.
- [61:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I think it was fourth or 14. Our first drive. We go at the punt. They show. Orlando Scandre, I believe he either shows or ends up running out. They show hot right. So gunner left wide open. We've practiced this. I think they actually went back and counted like 67 times or something like that throughout the season. 70 times like. Like if they show. If you have a punter who can throw, if the guy's wide the fuck open right there, that's easy. We're just checking zebra Zebra which is a zone protection. I move up to 11 yards basically so I get the ball quicker. Everybody's just dropping straight back and holding basically. And it's just an immediate throw for a first down right at the outside. So excited. It's happening in Jerry world. Oh my God. You never know when this is coming. You have no idea when it's coming. First series, first, first punt guy shows. Yes. Holy shit. That big ass jumbotrons right above me. Are we either hitting that thing or we're fucking throwing a pass? This is an incredible time. Go ahead, spin that. No laces. I don't think drop it. Feels pretty good. We end up not completing the pass. Tony Ramo comes out, they score and then it was just. People would say that exact failure of a fake punt is what led to us getting demolished.
- [63:01]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, started before that. We came out. Defense three and out and oh. Jell Freeman tackle. Third down, Boom. Gets up quick, boom. Point Fu flag. Automatic first down they go down, do whatever.
- [63:15]
Anthony De Julio
Oh, no.
- [63:15]
Ed
They actually scored on their first four. They scored touchdowns on their first four.
- [63:19]
AJ
Yeah.
- [63:19]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so our first. So they got the ball first, it sounds like.
- [63:22]
Darius J. Butler
Got the ball first. Three and out. Penalty. First down they go and score.
- [63:25]
Pat McAfee
Okay, then we three and out. Loss of four yards. Fake punt failure in our own inside. In our own red zone.
- [63:31]
Anthony De Julio
It was over.
- [63:32]
Pat McAfee
They scored. Yeah. That thing was 14 zip before one play.
- [63:35]
Ed
19 yards was there next.
- [63:36]
Joe Montana
Yeah.
- [63:36]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so. Okay, so it was under 19. Yeah. I knew we lost yards.
- [63:39]
Anthony De Julio
I thought it was a little bit more Miles Austin.
- [63:42]
Pat McAfee
Who?
- [63:42]
Ed
Which touchdown? Which one are we asking?
- [63:43]
Pat McAfee
Which touchdown?
- [63:44]
Ed
Oh, that was to dez. The second drive was to Des.
- [63:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, so it was. That's what I remember for going down there.
- [63:51]
Anthony De Julio
But then you got Luck first. That's how you got Luck.
- [63:53]
Darius J. Butler
Terrence was boom.
- [63:54]
Pat McAfee
Congrats to Tony Rumbo though, though. Big win over the Colts that day. He literally didn't have to do anything. And the game was over.
- [64:02]
Ed
He was 18 of 20 for 218 and four touchdowns.
- [64:05]
Tony Romo
Four touchdowns.
- [64:06]
Anthony De Julio
People forget.
- [64:09]
Darius J. Butler
For a decade.
- [64:10]
Anthony De Julio
Master class.
- [64:11]
Pat McAfee
How were you ever gonna stop him?
- [64:13]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, he was out then. He had the damn forgetting his name. Played a buffalo. Long hair, short, white, wide out.
- [64:20]
Pat McAfee
Colby.
- [64:21]
Anthony De Julio
Beasley.
- [64:21]
Darius J. Butler
Yes, Beasley. Beasley. Animal. Beasley Williams.
- [64:25]
Pat McAfee
Beasley's a rapper, I believe.
- [64:27]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Rapper Whitten still around. Yeah.
- [64:30]
Ed
Seven for 90.
- [64:31]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, that's a good day.
- [64:33]
Pat McAfee
Everybody on our team had a touchdown. We get it. It was a long day. Long trip back, dress full cowboy. Obviously had a riding jacket on whole thing. And then first time I'm on the field. His failure leads to a touchdown immediately afterwards.
- [64:44]
Anthony De Julio
Dressed to throw the football.
- [64:46]
Pat McAfee
Sounds like you knew what?
- [64:47]
Anthony De Julio
You knew it was coming.
- [64:48]
Pat McAfee
Maybe I did.
- [64:48]
Ed
I mean, you had a situation day though.
- [64:50]
Darius J. Butler
That was one of my guys.
- [64:51]
Ed
He had a long at 61 average of 47.
- [64:54]
Darius J. Butler
You probably are player. You probably gotta part of the game.
- [64:57]
Pat McAfee
What's Chuck? I mean, joining us now, ladies and gentlemen. He's a man Wavy. What's that? D Butt. Everybody needs fault.
- [65:06]
Anthony De Julio
What are you doing all week? 42.
- [65:07]
Joe Montana
7.
- [65:08]
Anthony De Julio
I mean, let's wait.
- [65:09]
Pat McAfee
Personal foul on third. Don gives him a first chance. The refs decided that game. Sounds like he doesn't have control of the boys, if that's what.
- [65:16]
Ed
Hasselback and Luck both threw the ball 22 times that game.
- [65:19]
Pat McAfee
This is how I was dressed too. Yeah. Bruce found dress good fit fake bow. Is the reason why you wear that on the plane, right?
- [65:28]
Darius J. Butler
Put that back on.
- [65:30]
Pat McAfee
I Think I left the hat because hats are tough to travel with. Especially those ones that was. The jacket that was long and had a split if I was gonna hop on a horse.
- [65:37]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah. Like the night rider.
- [65:39]
Ed
Whatever.
- [65:41]
Pat McAfee
Zero for one pack. Passing that on that particular day. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, this is a band who's probably had great memories down there. He's super bowl there. Won a Super Bowl. Yeah. Super bowl champion college football national champion Rider cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawker. Hawker dressed like an have an incompletion that leads immediately to a touchdown in route to a route. And I'll tell you what, you got to change the way you act every once in a while. You know what I mean?
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AJ
H. Yeah, I guess you do. But that's what I always wonder when I see these guys wearing crazy, like, Halloween costumes or. Or just, you know, some kind of, you know, unique situation going in after you lose. Do you sit there in your locker and think for a couple minutes like, okay, put the old duster back on and the cowboy hat.
- [66:20]
Pat McAfee
Or what is called a duster, you know the name of the jacket. Thank you for telling me that. That is the name of the jacket. It is called a duster. I decided to leave the bolo in the bag. Hat was left in locker room. Duster did go on, and cowboy did walk home. You. You sound like you were the same as everybody else. One suit.
- [66:39]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [66:40]
Pat McAfee
One suit on way out there, one suit on the next morning. Two game. One suit, same way home. One outfit whole time. You think guys are bringing backup outfits when they dress like walking. Sorry. Definitely fashionable gentlemen who are expressing their. Whatever the hell they're allowed to. You're allowed to dress however the hell you want. And if you think it looks cool, sweet. I'm happy for you. Some of you look like, you know, you look like, though, which is, I think, a part of the fashion thing. But that's us calling. They don't. They don't. My opinion, I don't know. Fashion is.
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AJ
I think they think it's sweet. Like, hey, fashion, I'm an artist. I'm expressing myself. I think that's what they think some.
- [67:16]
Darius J. Butler
People want to look like ass.
- [67:17]
Tony Romo
Like, that's what I'm saying.
- [67:17]
Darius J. Butler
Mac Hollins, he wants true. He wants, hey, look at me.
- [67:22]
Anthony De Julio
It's part of it.
- [67:23]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [67:24]
Darius J. Butler
If you go out there, back it up good. It's good.
- [67:27]
Pat McAfee
On the way out, he wearing shoes. On the way out, you think?
- [67:29]
Anthony De Julio
No, no. He actually went into the locker room, I believe, took his shoulder pads off and his shoes and then came back out for the celebration after the game.
- [67:37]
Pat McAfee
I respect Matt Collins. He was doing this in Buffalo, goes up to New England, does the same exact thing and has a couple massive plays for the New England Patriots and big time moments. But yeah, there has to be. They have to have different outfit for way I would assume.
- [67:50]
Darius J. Butler
I hope so. I don't know.
- [67:51]
AJ
If the coach sees you putting your accessories back on after you get smoked by 40 points, I can understand. If I was head coach, I might get pissed off. I said, see you putting your bolo tie back on in the mirror, you know, like taking some assistant coach's space.
- [68:04]
Pat McAfee
We lost by 35, not 40.
- [68:06]
AJ
Okay, coach, do you know like how much. How much length do I have? Like between the old pendant and then the rope in the bottom? How many? Like six inches.
- [68:13]
Anthony De Julio
What do you think?
- [68:14]
Pat McAfee
What is standard bolo operating procedure? Coach Chuck J. Pat, your throw is the reason why we lost.
- [68:21]
Ty Schmidt
Take that thing off.
- [68:24]
Pat McAfee
I'm telling you, man, that would be cool. If we completed that, we complete that.
- [68:28]
Anthony De Julio
If I win that game, maybe we go down.
- [68:30]
Pat McAfee
Soldier L. Freeman the other day, what a great name to bring up. He was a CFL legend.
- [68:34]
AJ
Oh, yeah.
- [68:35]
Pat McAfee
I forget where he went to school. Somewhere in Texas. A purple place.
- [68:37]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, yeah.
- [68:38]
Pat McAfee
Small, small school.
- [68:39]
Ty Schmidt
Stephen F. Austin.
- [68:42]
Pat McAfee
That might have been it. That. Is that a purple place? Yep.
- [68:44]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [68:44]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so I think. I think that is where he went. Incredible work right there. I think that is where he went to.
- [68:49]
Ty Schmidt
To.
- [68:50]
Pat McAfee
No.
- [68:50]
Ed
Somewhere no one would ever know. It's called Mary Harden, Baylor.
- [68:55]
Pat McAfee
Oh, mhb.
- [68:57]
Anthony De Julio
Let's see.
- [68:59]
Pat McAfee
Maybe not. Maybe it is purple. Yep, it is purple.
- [69:01]
Ed
Yep. The Crusaders.
- [69:02]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I wouldn't have got that one.
- [69:04]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I feel pretty good. I thought they're G3.
- [69:06]
Darius J. Butler
It's a good shot.
- [69:06]
Pat McAfee
Anyways, he goes and plays in the cfl. He plays in the cfl. Plays great in the cfl. Gridson finds him out of the cfl, signs him to pretty long defend deal. At the age in which he is at, he comes to Indianapolis. The guy's a machine.
- [69:22]
Darius J. Butler
Great football.
- [69:22]
Pat McAfee
He was like, I think he hurt his foot maybe. I don't know if it was a foot injury. That might have been anger. Something happens in Andrew. We had him locked up for his whole career though, basically. So like all his good days.
- [69:32]
Darius J. Butler
No, he left. He left and went to Chicago and played.
- [69:35]
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah?
- [69:35]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. He played some good ball in Chicago too.
- [69:37]
Pat McAfee
Because we had him locked down. He was outperforming his contract. Oh yeah, we had him like locked down for a pretty good amount of time, contract wise. And like his first year there, fresh out of the cfl, he just like how nobody else know this guy existed is kind of like the thought. But then we had him for a long time and I think he was outperforming his contract like by a large, large margin. He did go up to Chicago. I remember watching him run around. I just saw him the other day, Jack.
- [70:00]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, absolutely undersized, but he was strong as he was hat in hands. He would play the run like he was a smaller linebacker. So you wouldn't think it, but he would, he would strike folks. And he, he could cover too. So he.
- [70:10]
Pat McAfee
Where did he go to school?
- [70:11]
Ed
Mary Harden?
- [70:12]
Pat McAfee
Baylor? What is that? What?
- [70:14]
Ed
The D3 school. They actually beat Bones team in the D3 national championship when he was a senior. And coach Pagano did text in and say he, he knew exactly who it was as well.
- [70:25]
Pat McAfee
Shout out Chuck Pagano. What? I'm not 100% sure which one. Which part did he know?
- [70:29]
Darius J. Butler
The flag?
- [70:30]
Anthony De Julio
The.
- [70:30]
Ed
No, he knew the school.
- [70:31]
Pat McAfee
Oh, oh, he knew the school. Okay. Because there's a lot of things he known because he canceled, by the way. Hot route to Gunner going forward right after that.
- [70:41]
Anthony De Julio
Okay.
- [70:42]
Pat McAfee
He said, we're never doing that again. Just change the gunner.
- [70:44]
Ed
That's good old coach.
- [70:45]
Darius J. Butler
That was one of my guys.
- [70:46]
Pat McAfee
I was not happy about it. I was not happy about it.
- [70:49]
Ed
I remember.
- [70:50]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I actually had a full conversation with coach Pagano. So one guy drops a pass out of what, 67. We did this. We can't get another guy in there. We're just going to let somebody sit out there wide open and I'm going to have to stand back here. Me as a human, as a football player that grew up in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, and there's going to be a wide open guy right there that we're not going to be a lot. We're not going to throw the ball to because one guy.
- [71:08]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.
- [71:10]
Pat McAfee
That's what. Yeah, we'll put a wide receiver. I'm like, I think that's bullshit. I think that is. This is professional football. That we should only just. Aren't we going to try to win a game that is clearly an advantage for us? No, we're not. We're not doing what happened last time again. I know we're not doing that. So if you have any ulterior motives or alternative ideas for us not to have that happen, it's like, this is bullshit. And I felt terrible for the guy. Guy was an incredible player for us. Great special teamer for us. Great football player, great dude. Everything was like, great about him. That happening, though, changed a lot. Anyways, there were some things that happened in championship weekend that DB might have a little hindsight on. AJ you know, we wanted to do a little something different this week with everything db. We wanted Darius J. Butler to potentially, and I think it was his initial idea of, hey, there's some things that I think could have been done to stop some of these plays that took place. So we said, why don't we do a little hindsight? Defensive coordinator. Then boom, all of a sudden you got Monday morning DC with DB happening on Tuesday. You know, because normally the Monday morning quarterback stuff happens on Monday after the games. But he couldn't get here because it's snowman get. So it's. It's Monday morning DC with DB going forward, but this one's happening on Tuesday. It's the first ever one.
- [72:17]
Anthony De Julio
Okay.
- [72:17]
Pat McAfee
So we just need people to understand this would be normally happening yesterday, but planes just weren't able anywhere in M.O.
- [72:24]
Ed
That makes sense.
- [72:24]
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
- [72:25]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So it's Monday morning D.C. with DB on Tuesday morning this time, but not in future times. It's the debut of a new segment where we're going to get smarter on the defensive end. What do we need to do?
- [72:37]
Darius J. Butler
It was beautiful. First of all, flying in, seeing all that snow, the ground, I'm sure it was shitty to deal with, but it was amazing seeing it coming in from the air. If you run a replay, Foxy, this touchdown that we've seen from Jackson Smith and Jigba lines up in the back field and you, you think watching this game, how the hell does the best wide receiver in football, one of the best wide receivers in football, get wide open? Critical point in the game. But this is kind of how it happens. We go to the all 22 view and I've seen some great breakdowns on this play. If you watch initially the alignment, he's going to line up away from the pass drift. Can I get the wide copy from the sideline? Yep. Boom. Perfect. So he lines up initially away from the pass drift. So keep your pause right now the passing strength would be to Sam Darnold goes left, you got Rashid Shahid, a wide receiver. You got Cooper Cup, a wide receiver. So that's the passing strength. Now, in any coverage as a defense, you have to know where the best wide receiver on the football field is. That's Jackson Smith and Jigba here right now. He starts off to the right side of formation. You let it run. He motions over to the left side of the formation. Pause it.
- [73:38]
Joe Montana
Here.
- [73:38]
Darius J. Butler
The safety is circled. The coverage they are running is quarters. That's the base coverage called in from the defensive quarter coordinator. Now, in every quarter's coverage, an adjustment is made when it's a bunch. And if you look at the wide receivers once again, all three of them are on the same side. 1, 2, 3, inside the numbers and the hash. So that's basically a bunch. The adjustment is boxed. So that's the two low defenders, the nickelback and the linebacker, and the safety in the cornerback to that side with the wide receivers. That's who's going to be running the bunch adjustments. So if you leave it paused, the two underneath, you go low, inside, low, outside, outside, deep outside, deep inside for the safety in the corner. Now, I'm circling that backside safety because right now, the adjustment, I will make it. Now, this is Monday morning, this is Tuesday morning. Hindsight, hindsight, hindsight now. So this is for the Patriots to be looking at, for instance. Now the adjustment will be shove or push, and that's basically telling the front side defenders, everybody over there, to the passing strength, because that's where all the best players are. The best pass schedules are. Hey, I'm coming to your side. I'm shoveling shoving over there. Cornerback to my left. You lock up. You, you should be able to handle that tight end. And the dimebacker, you should also be able to handle the running back. So right now, the safety that's circle, that's the guy to keep an eye on because he would be the one that can help. Now, if you let it run a little bit, you'll see the route concepts play out. Pause it. Now, Cooper Cup. He's going to the flat, so he knows he's going to occupy that low, flat defender. He's going to take that flat defender with his route, going to go out to the flat and then come back inside. So now you have two deep defenders, also layingmen on the inside. But I want you to focus on the two, two deep defenders. Now, Rashid Shahid, he's going to run a post. Let it run a little bit. Pause it. Now he's going to eat up the cornerback in the safety because the corner has to respect the vertical coming right at him. The safety has to respect the deep inside breaker without that other safety pushing over and helping because if he does that, that cornerback to the front side, he can get wider. And now he can take Jackson, Smith and Jiggle, who's going to be running this corner route from the backfield now he lines up in the backfield, but obviously he's not a running back. You have to treat him like a wide receiver. So right now you have the best wide receiver in football, wide ass open because you didn't make that pre snap adjustment. And if you let it run from the very beginning, just let it all play out right now, the communication will sound like this. Hey, I'm the nickel to the right. Nickel right. Okay. Box, box, box. Backside safety circle. Hey, shove, shove, shove. I'm coming over. So now everybody's on the same page of how we're going to run this coverage. Post call. So the call comes in from the coach, but now it's professional. So this is the biggest difference between playing like high school, collegiate and then the NFL level. When you hear like, hey, be a pro. This is the pro of it. Now do the players have the freedom to do this? This is things you have to work on Monday through Saturday. You can't just do this on the field. We have to work on this because everybody's kind of. We got to have be on the same page when this happens because it happens so fast. Motion right. Box, box, box.
- [76:34]
Anthony De Julio
Shove, shove, shove.
- [76:35]
Darius J. Butler
So that communication is made. Two, six kitchens. He's shoving over to give those DBs some help. And now we have five bodies on three wide receivers as opposed to four.
- [76:45]
Pat McAfee
AJ. AJ AJ yeah. AJ what's lamb man saying in the middle of this? And obviously this is all Monday morning. Okay. This is hindsight. We understand the outcome in what Jackson, Smith, and Jigba is not going over to an actual bunch. He's just going to create one in the backfield, which is obviously a different alignment. How many, how often are boys making changes there? How often is everybody kind of changing adjustments?
- [77:07]
AJ
I think it changes a lot. And Landman, you're aware of where. Where JSN is pre snapping. You're already alerting, hey, if he goes in motion, this we're going to go to box. And then Landman saying he'd say, box in and out. I got inside, you got outside. You know that. But if you watch JSN from the snap, if you run it a little bit, no one really has their eyes on him until it's too late. And he's almost in the end zone. Like, look, I don't even. Maybe the, the playside corner is peeking on him, but watch like Landman's going. His eyes are gone right to Cooper Cup. And then look, jsn, there's not really eyes on him right now.
- [77:36]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, and that can't be the case. Just the same way for Seattle when they're on defense, every coverage, regardless of what's called, we have to know if I'm Seattle on defense, where Puka NU is, that's going to affect our coverage or Antonio Brown, Julio Jones, whoever that receiver is. Everybody has to be on the same page. So we can't just treat Jackson, Smith and Jigba like he's a normal running back in this concept. And you and we talking about it. This is in hindsight now, but this is the NFC championship game and they've been running quarters. You know, the Rams been running quarters all season long. The Seahawks know that, Cooper cup knows it. Sam Darner knows it, Clint Kubiak knows it. So they're going to have have routes built in, especially in the red area, to attack the rules of the COVID.
- [78:16]
Pat McAfee
So let's talk about that. Can we talk about that, please? With how genius Kubiak is, you go back to the beginning, I guess, if you want to show the eye candy of the motion. So all these routes, go ahead and run it. This thing's, this thing's a beautiful box here. How come everybody else can have the ones without the, the lines?
- [78:32]
Anthony De Julio
I don't know. We saw it as well this past weekend.
- [78:35]
Pat McAfee
You know, everybody. It seems like we should be able to, we need to do that. But this whole thing, this is all on purpose. Everything's on purpose, right by this offense. So whenever you're talking about like a quarterback or like somebody making a transition from college to the NFL, there's a massive difference in the mentality, the mindset, the amount of information you need to have. Right? And obviously this is one of those checks that could have happened in real time. But they're running this all on purpose, right? Everything is schemed up. Cooper cup is literally taking this guy out. They are scheming somebody to be wide ass open, let alone the best player on the field. But this is all on purpose. And the quarterback has to be on time with everything.
- [79:09]
Darius J. Butler
Like how does this, this is all on purpose, the motion to get him. Because if he just comes and lines up there now you have more time to make those adjustments. It sound good?
- [79:18]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. There's the mic right there.
- [79:20]
Darius J. Butler
Okay. So you have more times to make these adjustments or if they just come out in a traditional bunch, you have times to make, hey, box with the shove. All these different things. When he starts here with what motion does. Motion creates communication for the defense, whether that's verbal or nonverbal communication. So that's Pointing and talking. That's talking. And the communication can't just happen on Sunday afternoon and Sunday night. The communication has to happen Monday through Saturday. This is practice, this is meetings, this is walkthroughs. We all have to be on the same page of how we're going to. Because we know the weaknesses of our coverage as well. We see quarter beater, quarters beaters. If you play cover three, they're going to be covered cover three beaters. You play cover two, it's going to be cover two beaters. We all know these different things. So when that late motion happens, it creates all that different motion. So right now, if you just continue to watch this safety, he's going to be covering grass essentially, like, that's one of your best defenders, that's one of your best athletes on the field. And right now he's covering the hash marks. When Darius Williams, he should be able to handle a tight end. Now, if that's a dip, if that's Gronk, if that's Tony Gonzalez, if that's Travis Kelce. Now, maybe you adjust it differently, but when it's. You come into a game, honestly, in NFL, you come in. AJ Will tell you this, too. Certain guys got to beat us. You know, Rashid Shahid, he got to beat us on defense today. Whoever Cooper cup, he got to beat us today. Jackson, Smith and Jigba can't beat us. That can't be the. That's the game record. So you have to have that adjustment. And you started off with a box, you're going to have four on three, but with that shove call, you, you'll have five on three. If I was a defensive coordinator, corners would kind of be my base coverage because you have so many different options that you can massage the defense with to be in the right situation.
- [80:58]
Pat McAfee
These offensive guys are genius. This is the offensive genius stuff. This is the designing of plays. Like, they know what you're in and, oh, yeah, we're going to draw up the perfect play for that situation. And it's interesting that, you know, whenever a defensive coach gets hired as the head coach, he finds that with Kubiak and teams it up up with the. The defense that he has. It's like Seattle's special.
- [81:19]
Darius J. Butler
And I'm surprised that the Rams didn't have these adjustments built in because this.
- [81:23]
Pat McAfee
Is why face them three times.
- [81:24]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, this is why Chris Shula, you know, was getting the hype, or probably still is getting the hype that he is getting a head coaching job because of his defense. But when you're playing these things once you get to kind of Thanksgiving, like teams kind of have their identities, offenses have their identities, defenses have their identities. In coverage, you heard Romo talk about with McDonald, like, hey, it's going to be this, this many looks and it's going to be five coverages. If you have, it's one more here. Cooper cup again. So now all the speed is to his right, all the pass catchers are to the right. But I'm going, hey, just imagine all the, all the Avengers over here, right? All the good guys over the pass catcher on the same side. Once again, every coverage we need to identify where 11 is. So now this is a Cover 3. It kind of looks like a Cover 4 shell, but that top safety, he's going to rotate down, it's going to be a cover three. And now so every, this is third and three. So down and distance is important as well. So third and three. If I'm calling the zone coverage, we have to match these routes. We can't just drop back to a zone and give up that easy completion. AJ talks about it all the time. We all have a built in no cover zone which is 5 yards or less end zone coverage that goes out the window in third and three. Now we have to attach to bodies at the sticks and watch this play out. Cooper cup, he's lined up at one number, number one, he's just going to sit in the hole between these two zone droppers. Now 37 late, you don't have another threat out there. You can't be covering the five yard line. You have to squeeze to number 10 to Cooper cup and then the inside linebacker, you're dropping and you're looking at the quarterback. So you, you're going to obviously start off with 11 with Jackson, Smith and Jigba. But then you got to bounce back and try to get in that window and you have to anticipate these breaks in these routes. It's 33. This was first and 10. Maybe I can understand. But the thing about zone coverage, you have to read quarterbacks break on intentions. And the reason you break on intentions because you are able to rally and tackle. This should be a catch and a tackle at the five yard line. Maybe you get the first down if you'll see it from the back, copy Sam Darnold, go through his progressions. So a part of it comes down to the quarterback as well. Just watch his eyes and his helmet. He's going to start to the defense is right and then work his way back to Cooper Cup. And while he's doing that. You, you can watch 48, you see Landman, but you also see 48 coming to the screen and go towards Njigba. And then once he does that, he hits Coop right in the gap and boom, it's a wide, it's a walk in.
- [83:41]
Pat McAfee
Touchdown. Sam Darnold, baby.
- [83:43]
Darius J. Butler
Sam Darnold played an unbelievable game. Clint Kubiak, I think he called an unbelievable game and he didn't call a safe game. Like he played this game aggressive. You're going with the MVP caliber quarterback on the other side with Matt Stafford. You can't come into the game even with as good as their defense is. Hey, the defense is going to win. It just don't turn the ball over. He came and he was aggressive from the first quarter all the way to the final drive when he threw that, when he called the boot for Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold played unbelievable, I think 340 plus yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions. Great play calling and great execution from Sam Darnold. And it helps having one of the best wide receivers in the field, I mean, in the league. And then Cooper cup as well. One of the smartest wide receivers, receivers who I know. His hands are kind of all over these game plans and these route concepts, you know, especially down here in the red on red zone, the scoring area for the offense.
- [84:32]
Pat McAfee
Hey, Cooper cup, allegedly, now it's being talked about. Oh, yeah, the Rams told him he's all washed up. You know, maybe he was told it might be time. Allegedly. This is what's being reported or being talked about, obviously, until Cooper cup openly talks about it, which, you know, you never know. You never know. But he, whenever he was with Matthew Stafford, it was like, oh, there's another quarterback at wide receiver. You got another quarterback at wide receiver. So he won the quadruple crown.
- [84:59]
Ed
Yes.
- [85:00]
Pat McAfee
Not just yards, not just catches, not just touchdowns, but also yards after catch in one season with Matthew Stafford. So much so that they started a podcast together called the diamond nine or something like that podcast. And everything was like, good to go. And then the stories start coming out about Cooper Cup. It's like, what does he do? Oh, well, he also was like a coach in the wide receiver room, an extra coach. He knows exactly what everything kind of calls for. And I think whenever you see these plays laid out by D Bud, it's like every move is surgical. It's like everything's on purpose. Oh, he ran an in route there instead of an out route. Well, he did that strictly to kind of occupy the corner that it can't make the play on the deep ball here to Jackson, Smith and Jigba. It's like these super genius offenses that have the right guys and the right spots can be unbelievable. Do the Patriots defense, are they built to kind of handle this? I guess that would be the final. The follow up question is like the Patriots defense built for this type of offense or are we going to have a good little joust here?
- [85:56]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, once you get to this point in the season, you know the players, the coaches, they're going to make plays. Is this going to come down to critical situation? Will come down to the red area. Can we make one play? Can we create a turnover, two minute situation? We saw him operate, make a big pass down the middle to js. I think they have the players to match up. They also are smart and they also can do different things and they have game records on every level but especially on that front level like Milton Williams. I don't care what you call at any point in the game, him or Barmore can just wreck the entire play. Regardless of what's a run play, a play action, pass, whatever it is, you can wreck the play. And we saw it with Philadelphia Eagles against the Chiefs last Super Bowl. Patrick Mahomes Holmes the great, one of the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen. Andy Reid one of the greatest play calls we've ever seen. But if you can't block them up, up front and then we also can have seven guys on the back end watching a quarterback, that's an incredible weapon. So I definitely think the Patriots have the personnel in the coaching to get it done. And then I think the same, I think the same both offenses and we haven't seen the best of the Patriots offense. Honestly in my opinion the weather has been a shit show. Throughout their entire run they played great defenses and they had, they just did what needed to be done to win the games. So I think you'll, that'll be kind of an advantage because now the Seahawks don't haven't seen kind of their best stuff for the last few weeks. So I think this would be a great game and it'll come down to the last drive like a lot of these Super Bowls do and the Patriots.
- [87:22]
Anthony De Julio
I might be wrong here but as far as like lockdown corners go, like The San Francisco 49ers and the Rams don't have like a Christian Gonzalez and who knows if you know Gonzo will follow jsm but that would would be like just kind of pontificating about what the game could be the JSN vs Christian Gonzalez matchup would be one of those like super bowl esque, legendary, you know, best on best. Hopefully that's what we get. But you never know what.
- [87:45]
Darius J. Butler
They make it so hard to. Even with Puka, like, they make it so hard to be like, hey, we have a great cornerback. You just follow 11. If you look at like coming out.
- [87:54]
AJ
Of the backfield debut up everywhere, he's better bunches.
- [87:57]
Darius J. Butler
Everything he's motioning, he's in bunches. He's on the top, he can out wide like he, he's everywhere. So it's hard to call a play of your coordinator to get that Christian Gonzalez on JSN matchup. And it's great by offense. Offense started doing this, you know, I would say the last decade or so. It used to be, hey, our best guys out here at X, like try your best to stop or he plays the Z. Now you start to see, you know, Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, put all these guys, they play all over the field, so it's harder to kind of gain platforms, harder to get hands on them. And it's, you know, you're going to have situations where the best wide receiver on field's gonna be matched up with, with safeties and linebackers and nobody every.
- [88:34]
Pat McAfee
Once in a while.
- [88:34]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [88:35]
Pat McAfee
Which I think is what you were saying. They got him in the backfield, they got him lined up everywhere. Kub's a genius, it seems like.
- [88:41]
AJ
I guess he is. But the thing is. Okay, what did you get? What's your going to be? Your answer. We saw that JSN coming from the backfield. We motioned to. It's a beautiful play. Now, we know the Patriots are going to work on it. You'll walk through, you'll work on it, practice, make sure you don't get beat with that in the Super Bowl. But they're going to have some kind of, some kind of wrinkle off of that, some kind of look off of that that I, I think in the super bowl would be sweet to, to see how they counter.
- [89:01]
Pat McAfee
I'm excited for the battle. I'm excited for. I'm excited for Sam Darnold. I'm excited for Sam Darnold to see what he can do against his Patriots defense in the Super Bowl. You know, there's some people that think the Seahawks are just going to kill the Patriots.
- [89:13]
Anthony De Julio
A lot of people I've seen. Yeah.
- [89:15]
AJ
Why is that?
- [89:15]
Pat McAfee
I don't, I don't know.
- [89:17]
Anthony De Julio
I honestly, I don't know either.
- [89:18]
Pat McAfee
I, I genuinely.
- [89:19]
Ty Schmidt
A lot of it has to do. I think with debut says like the, the weather hasn't been great but like if you haven't really watched the games and you know after the game you're just looking at the box score. It's like they scored 16 points. They scored 10 points. And then you watch the Seahawks and Sam Darnold's throwing for 360 yards. JSN's putting up these big numbers. It's like I don't care how good New England's defense is, Sam Darnold is him. They're gonna beat the out of these guys. I think that's probably where it comes from.
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Pat McAfee
The ticket demand for this game is obviously high. The average resale price is currently over $10,000. That's out there in Santa Clara, California too, which I think you're probably gonna have to pay a lot for a lot of things out out there. So 10,393 is the average resale ticket price. You can get 250 bucks off.
- [90:03]
Anthony De Julio
Boom. That's huge.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, we're trying.
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Anthony De Julio
Who goes to these things?
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Ty Schmidt
Brings it down to a cool 10 grand.
- [90:08]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [90:09]
Pat McAfee
A little bit more than it might be. You're right.
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Ed
Pay for parking with that 250.
- [90:14]
Pat McAfee
I don't know.
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Ed
I don't know.
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Pat McAfee
But just know that there is $250 off of a ticket. If you would like to buy it to the big game using pat250p.a and our friends at SeatGeek, the greatest ticket buying platform on planet earth and the moon. They are the greatest.
- [90:33]
Anthony De Julio
Oh yeah.
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Pat McAfee
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- [90:46]
Ty Schmidt
Might be a lot of red dots for this one.
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Pat McAfee
Feels like, but there's no other better price. This is a good deal. They do it for the market. They don't do it on what they correct. So on that note, shout out to seatgeek. We appreciate him. We appreciate them. Joining us now is a man who's a three time super bowl mvp, four time super bowl champion, absolute stallion of a paisano from western Pennsylvania, A man who is synonymous with the 49ers brand and 49ers rise, which is going to be a docu series on AMC debuting this Sunday called rise of 49ers stories are going to be told by everybody that you can of think think of from the 49ers of the past. And even Tom Brady pops in because he was a season ticket holder of that particular team. And that's where he's developed. He developed a love of ball in this man. Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Montela.
- [91:37]
Joe Montana
Thank you, guys. Thanks, Pat.
- [91:38]
Pat McAfee
How are you, Joe? Dude, I'm great.
- [91:40]
Darius J. Butler
How are you doing?
- [91:41]
Joe Montana
Good. We've been missing you in in Lanai, though, the last couple. You weren't at the top of the path up there?
- [91:48]
Pat McAfee
No. Have you already been out there?
- [91:51]
Joe Montana
Yeah, we just, we went over Chris right after Christmas and through the new year took all the grandkids. So. Yeah, we missed you.
- [91:59]
Darius J. Butler
All right.
- [92:00]
Pat McAfee
Send my mana to the family to the Montana. Send my mana to the Montanas. Okay, I will certainly see you guys. My wife and I will. We'll bring baby girl back, hopefully have another whenever we make it over there. So we'll see you obviously on an island that we should not talk about because nobody goes there because it's so small. Boy, it is a beautiful place with incredible people. Let's talk about a beautiful place that you know very well. Santa Clara, obviously the home now, but that San Francisco area area, home to a lot of incredible football history, Obviously with the NFL, this rise of the 49ers thing with AMC. How does this come together and how excited were you to kind of take a trip down memory lane? And how was the experience as a whole reliving the glory days with those 49ers days?
- [92:40]
Joe Montana
Well, it's always fun, you know, looking back at the things that happened and where when I first got there, we were 2 and 14. You know, it wasn't like this was something that just was handed over to us and so they had to kind of work our way up. And once Mr. D, the Mr. Debarlo and Bill Walsh, he let Bill have the reins and I think you could see him in those first couple years the team he was trying to build as some there some Saturdays we would go out the door for home games game and there'd be like 50 people in the parking lot coming in for a workout. So you could see he didn't have the people he wanted at that point, but he was. They both were something special.
- [93:25]
Pat McAfee
Okay, well, we're thankful we're going to get to relive it. The San Francisco 49ers current team is dealing with a little electric issue, potentially allegedly big time. But on that note, great squad, seemingly always in it Always there. But instead the NFC west is being represented by the Seattle Seahawks. What are your thoughts on. On the state of the current Niners and what are your thoughts on the Seattle Seahawks team that might be at the beginning of this whole thing with McDonald at the helm?
- [93:50]
Joe Montana
Well, I, you know, with the 49ers, I just think it was one of those years where I was surprised how far they got considering how many injuries they had over the through this whole season. But, you know, they still played well. You know, they, they need a big play guy on the outside, I think. And although they made the best of what they had to deal with both offensively and defensively. But Seattle's. While they had their number, they had 49ers number this year. I mean they shut them down. And you look at Seattle and I saw a little bit of the clip earlier and I think one of the things when I look back on how the Cowboys and kind of dealt with Jerry, I think you do the same same with Seattle's guy and you just don't let him beat you, make somebody else beat you. And you know, the Cowboys, when the, when people could beat the Cowboys too, what do they do? They take Michael Irvin out of the game, they take their tight end and then they play the running back and some wide receiver you could nobody can name still today on the other side. And you know, the game's a little different though today. Hard to double guys. But when they beat the 49ers, they put a guy in Jerry's face and a guy behind him and so they're going to make somebody else beat him. And I think that's what you have to do to this guy. He's just way too talented. He's just can't let. Let him get behind you.
- [95:13]
Pat McAfee
He's young too, Joe. I mean, he's only getting started in this entire thing. And then Sam Darnold, obviously he's getting, he's getting his second chapter. Joe. This is big for the Sam Darnold kind of career arc as a whole.
- [95:25]
Joe Montana
Oh, heck yeah. I'm all for Sam Darnold. The things that he's been through, the places that he's playing, played the games that he's won in, in oh even here in San Francisco before he got to Minnesota. And I mean, like, come on, he's. I saw the stat the other day on Sunday what he win 28 games in the last two teams he was with and he's now getting another chance here and he's doing the same thing and I'm Pulling for him. You know, I'm. I'm an NFC guy most of the time anyway, but I'm. I'm all about Sam. He. He's a good guy, good player. I'm happy for him.
- [95:59]
Pat McAfee
He's on his. His superhero, especially if he can knock off the New England Patriots who are back. AJ Has a question about that, Joe.
- [96:10]
AJ
Yeah, Joe, obviously, Drake May and the New England Patriots and what Mike Vrabel has done in his first year, it's something special. But when you watch Drake May, I guess, what do you see? Like, what are you most impressed by when you see this guy on the field?
- [96:21]
Joe Montana
So I think both these guys that are. Have a lot of similarity, and they're. They're not forcing balls. They're. They know they have a good defense and you got a great defensive player as a head coach, and it's okay to punt. It's okay. And don't worry about that part. Don't try to make plays if you don't have to. And there will be points in the game that you might have to. But both these guys are under control. A. Runs the ball well, too. So I just think that he's playing within himself, and that's all you have to do. You don't. You're coming to the Super Bowl. You don't have to do anything different than what got you there. And, you know, this obviously is big part.
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AJ
Is that hard to do, Joe? Joe, is that tough to do as a quarterback to not get too jacked up for the Super Bowl?
- [97:08]
Joe Montana
No, not really. Bill Walsh. Bill Walsh kept you pretty down to earth. He would do things during the week. Week, and he would. He. I mean, like the first super bowl he went to. He dressed up as the bellman as we got off the bus, and he tried to take my luggage, and I didn't know it was him. And the guy kept grabbing my luggage. I go, no, no, no, I got it. I got it. And finally I turned around, it was Bill, you know, as we got off the bus, and he. I don't know, he just did those kind of things during the week and. And little things that just would kind of take the pressure off of you and. And.
- [97:45]
Pat McAfee
Okay, hold on, Joe. I don't think I knew enough about Bill Walsh. I know his name's talked about as being a great coach. This guy had a lot of moxie. Sounds like this guy had a lot of moxie. We're dressing up as Bellman as the.
- [97:54]
Joe Montana
Oh, yeah. I mean, we're played. We played Danny Marino and The Dolphins. Danny had a tremendous year that year. And we, we went back into the locker room after warming up, and it's always a long time before you come back out. And so Bill was laying on one of the equipment bags in the middle of the locker room. It was dead quiet, and he just start talking.
- [98:15]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my.
- [98:17]
Joe Montana
Dan Marino. Nobody can stop Dan. I mean, he's thrown for 40 touchdowns and whatever, all his stats and, and, but just out of the blue and, and then we were playing in our first super bowl again. We get, we're on the last ball bus and we're stuck because the vice president is coming and we're sitting at like 500 yards away, and Bill stands up on the bus and says, hey, don't worry. I know we're getting close to the game and we're getting, it's close now, but don't worry. The game started and we have two equipment managers, Chico and Bronco said, so Chico scored and Bronco kicked the extra point.
- [99:00]
Pat McAfee
I didn't know any of that. This, I assume that a lot of this is going to be in this docu series on a. Yeah, I think.
- [99:05]
Joe Montana
A lot of it's in there. So it's some fun things that, that people probably don't know. And, but he was, he, he just had that way about him. I got through an interception in the, in a end zone one of the first times, and I knew I was in trouble when he start doing this thing right here. As I came off, I used to go right to him first and then to the phone, and he said, what was that? I said, I think they called that an interception, Coach. He said, try not to let that happen again, would you? I said, okay, I'm never going to him again. First, I'm going to the phone first. Let him cool down. I mean, that was about as heated as most of the time as he got. But he also, yeah, he, he just had some feel about him. Like, I came off the field. There's a photo that you'll probably see in the documentary where we're both on the ground and everybody's saying, like, we're drawing plays. But I was so exhausted at that, that point, I, I, I said, okay, just give me a minute, Coach. I'll be right up. I need a, I need a rest. He goes, no, don't worry. I'll come down to you. And we, we had our discussion. Yeah, there you go.
- [100:02]
Tony Romo
Wow.
- [100:03]
Joe Montana
We had our discussion right there down on the field. And I mean, he just, he just had a great feel for the players. And, and we, I mean, first we never wore pads. People wanted to come there. You don't wear pads in, in, in training camp? No, we don't wear pads during the week either. So everybody wanted to come play for us and at that point in time, so. But he, he had, he had a different way about him and it was very special. We lost him way too soon.
- [100:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, sounds like it. And I obviously didn't know enough about him. I knew his name, a great coach. I didn't know his demeanor. I didn't know how he went about doing his business. I just assumed old school football coach because the amount of success in the time, I had no idea this guy was an absolute legend. I got laying on the equipment box, talking shit to the defense.
- [100:49]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Like, what a moment there. Like, that's a legendary connection with your locker room, which we've seen here. Quickly back up there in New England, Joe Connor has a question about a new voice coming to a place in turning, turning it around quickly.
- [101:05]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, Coach Pat mentioned it. We see it with Vrabel in New England and how quickly, you know, a new voice coming in after the whole Mayo situation and even, you know, Bill and kind of rebranding the Patriots, it's a more fun, jovial group of guys who can win while having joy. We're seeing other teams, you know, Buffalo and Baltimore both have, you know, franchise quarterbacks, both have very successful, legendary coaches. But both teams move on from those guys. When do you know or have you ever really heard about an experience where the locker room just needed a new voice? And what do you think those quarterbacks in particular. Particular are looking for in that new coach just to kind of bring something fresh to the entire team?
- [101:47]
Joe Montana
Well, I think it all starts with that guy with the head coach. Right. And what he brings every day to work. I mean, that was one of the things that you saw with Bill, is that he wasn't demanding us. I mean, he was demanding perfection from us every day, and not just Sunday, but practiced every day. And he said, look, if I don't see see it, I'll make you put the pads back on. And he would do it every now and then and then just to prove that he, he, he means what he says. But I think you need to have fun at the game. At the same time, there's so much pressure in that game and, and especially this one coming up that it's always good to have a little bit of fun relief. And everybody said, we never saw you yell at anyone. I go, what am I going to Yell for. I don't, I don't. I'm going to lose. Guys, where's 11 of us?
- [102:35]
Pat McAfee
I.
- [102:35]
Joe Montana
Out there? We're all going to get yelled at when we get on the sidelines. So let's figure it out before we get over there. And I, I just think you got to have fun. I mean, this is a. I always say I played a stupid game for. Since I was 8 years old, basically for a living. So if you can't have fun doing that, I don't know, you probably don't belong there. And I think when you see, like Brable coming in, right, they know he's been successful, successful and what he's done, but yet he brings a different feeling into that locker room. That kind of changes everybody's attitude.
- [103:12]
Pat McAfee
I mean, hey, Joe, they're a good team over there, man. They are.
- [103:15]
Joe Montana
Yeah.
- [103:16]
Pat McAfee
A connected team, a tight team. Go ahead, D. Bud.
- [103:19]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, Joe, you mentioned it. It starts with the head coach. Mike variable and Mike McDonald both be, you know, coaching into the Super Bowl. And now you'll have teams. One of these teams will obviously win it and they'll be. They'll have the target on their back. You were ahead of a dynasty. How did you guys handle the success from that? We always talk about how do you handle success? How do you. How did you guys handle the success? How did Bill Walsh handle it? How did you as a quarterback, Jerry Rice, all these superstars. Now, how was that handled throughout the locker room?
- [103:46]
Joe Montana
Well, we didn't do it very well after we won the first one. We weren't very good the next year. But after a while, you start to understand what it takes really, to get there and be there. And Bill didn't have to. He didn't have to go in and monitor the locker room. He left it up to guys like Ronnie Lot, myself on the offense. And if we weren't. If somebody wasn't getting it done, they heard it be from the players before they heard it from. From Bill. And he said, if it gets out of hand and something you guys can't control and I'll jump in. But for the most part, this is your locker room. And you have to understand that this is why we come here. And you could see it with Bill, if somebody messed with that locker room, he wasn't there very long, even if he was a starter. And there's a couple starters that I don't want to mention that left and someone super bowl somewhere else, unfortunately for us.
- [104:45]
Pat McAfee
Us.
- [104:45]
Joe Montana
But he wasn't afraid to make that move. But he Let it go for as long as he could. And it's things that got out of our control. And so then he took control.
- [104:57]
Pat McAfee
I appreciate you not saying names, you know, because super bowl season. Yeah.
- [105:02]
Darius J. Butler
We just had a great documentary.
- [105:05]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [105:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, so. But we appreciate you see you doing it. But it does sound like the. Did sound. Teams obviously have a player led team, you know, and I'm not saying that the players need to be making the decisions, but the locker room and everything in the standard is policed by the players to get the players to believe in what the standard is supposed to be. Whenever nobody else really, outside the building has the hope is a part of changing the culture so quickly. What Ben Johnson was able to do in Chicago, that was outrageous. How about Liam Cohen down in Jacksonville? Joe, there's been some crazy turnaround. Turnaround. Now, on that note about the season, and we got teams winning that we didn't expect. Go ahead, Ty.
- [105:43]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, Joe, obviously this documentary is gonna really illuminate, you know, you guys's dynasty in San Francisco. But then we also had, you know, the Cowboys, the Patriots, and more recently, the. The Chiefs. Yeah, the Steelers, the Steel Curtain. With how much parody is currently in the NFL and how many good quarterbacks there are around the league.
- [106:02]
Darius J. Butler
League.
- [106:02]
Ty Schmidt
Do you think the. The Chiefs of, you know, the last five or so years, do you think that's the last true dynasty we'll see in the NFL? Like, can you see a team winning three Super Bowls over the course of four years? Or do you think there is just too much parody and too many good teams currently in the league?
- [106:21]
Joe Montana
I think it depends on youth. You know, how young that team is when they win the Super Bowl. If you. And it's. In some ways it's easy because some of those guys will leave, but you'll still be able to fill in with some. What Bill did on the first super bowl was he started filling in with older players that understood what he was looking for. Hacksaw Reynolds. You look at that. They brought on guys like Fred Dean, and it just. It makes a. It makes a difference. I mean, here's Hacksaw, so dedicated. It was ridiculous. He got so mad. And one, we were playing in la, he got so mad because all of a sudden, sudden George Seaford called a defensive meeting before Sunday morning. So I'm. I'm coming out of. I'm coming out of pregame mill, and I'm. I'm looking. I'm going. I. Damn, that looks like Hacksaw. He is completely dressed in his uniform, helmet on Everything in protest.
- [107:16]
Pat McAfee
Yes, yes. Hacksaw.
- [107:18]
Joe Montana
He had a ritual. He had a ritual that he did and he wanted to follow, and this was messing with his ritual. But those kind of guys just tell you how important it is to them. Like, even when you mess with a little thing like, hey, we, we need a meeting before we go here. And. But I think Bill wanted you to be perfect. Every day you walked on the field, he goes, and I want you as a quarterback, no matter who it was, Steve deburg, Steve Young, Steve Bono, myself. I want you to throw the ball like you're handing it to the receiver. I want it 12 inches in front of the number. If you're throwing a hook and you see the defenders on the guy's right, throw it to his left number. And you just have to be the guy that just puts it right where it's supposed to be.
- [108:05]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [108:05]
Joe Montana
Have to bucket it.
- [108:06]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Excuse me. We need this.
- [108:09]
Joe Montana
Yeah, yeah. And I'm not talking about just Sunday. It has to be from when we started practice on Wednesday. So it was every day of that week. And. But yeah, there was.
- [108:22]
Pat McAfee
Jeez. Everything's on the money, Joe. Yeah, Joe, good for you, dude. Honestly, I'm happy that you're getting a chance to relive what you were able to accomplish in our sport. Honestly, your. Your name is synonymous with the game and obviously you're a Hall of Famer and you're immortalized, but you're also a great Yinzer Paizan and we appreciate the hell out of you. And on that note, last question here. Have to ask, because we think you have connections to the story in numerous different ways. Tone has a question for you. Joe.
- [108:50]
Ed
Yeah, Joe, I don't know if I'm correct here or not, because I, I know he was the quarterback coach in K.C. i think the year after you left, but coach Mike McCarthy was an offensive quality control coach in Casey, I believe, your last year. How do you feel about him taking over his hometown squad, the Pittsburgh Steelers, and also your hometown squad?
- [109:10]
Joe Montana
I think it's great. I think it's a good fit. I was, I. My son in law, who's married to our youngest daughter, he. He's from Pittsburgh also, and he. We were just talking about it over the weekend, but what a great fit from a guy that understands what that area is all about and how important sports and football is to Pittsburgh, in the Pittsburgh area. So I think it's a great fit for him. I'm looking forward to. Forward to that, seeing what he can do down there because he's Bringing a completely different style of play into that offense, which you're not, you know, you're watching usually Aaron kind of hang on getting ball down the field, and you know he's going to teach a different system that says, hey, you don't have to do that. Don't force it. Don't miss it. I'm going to give you a couple other guys down here. If you don't like it on first down, I don't want you to force it. And so that's the way that offense has been tied ever since, you know, everybody left from Bill Walsh was. Paul Hackett was also in Kansas City and similar type of thing. And that's what we did in Kansas City.
- [110:11]
Pat McAfee
Paul Hackett, Steve Bono. We had a couple names there who scrolled down because there was an ad that popped up over the photo, but.
- [110:16]
Joe Montana
Oh, yeah, there you go.
- [110:18]
Pat McAfee
Wow. Hell, who's this? Who's on the left?
- [110:23]
Joe Montana
Paul Hackett.
- [110:25]
Ty Schmidt
That's Medium Mike on the. On the right.
- [110:30]
Pat McAfee
He looks good, don't he? Good ying or done there. That is such a good accent. I'm sure he dropped in in that immediately after this thing.
- [110:36]
Anthony De Julio
The hairline.
- [110:37]
Pat McAfee
Love to see the glory days. I'm happy you're getting a chance to relive it all, though, Joe. We appreciate you, man. And also we appreciate the opportunity that we got. One of these. This was.
- [110:45]
Anthony De Julio
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [110:46]
Joe Montana
I don't know if you've been working with Guinness for a while. It's. It's been in. Out in Chicago for a long time, and now they're just putting it in cans, so. So one of the. It's a little different than your normal Guinness, but it's also. It's more like refreshing and lighter beer that you can go have it in the summertime and enjoy and be refreshed.
- [111:07]
Ed
10 to 12 of them.
- [111:08]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah, we'll see. It's ice cold outside right now, you know, so we're trying to figure out where that fits in. We appreciate you, Joe. Have a great one.
- [111:16]
Joe Montana
Thank you. You too. Thank you, guys. Appreciate it.
- [111:19]
Pat McAfee
Hey, I'll see you out on that island.
- [111:20]
Anthony De Julio
See you.
- [111:21]
Joe Montana
We'll see Yun's later.
- [111:22]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, yeah, dog.
- [111:24]
Pat McAfee
You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, Joe Montana.
- [111:26]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, Joe.
- [111:27]
Pat McAfee
Oh, what a weapon.
- [111:30]
Tony Romo
Yeah.
- [111:31]
Pat McAfee
So that's a lighter Guinness.
- [111:32]
Ty Schmidt
I don't know, but I want to. That's what he said.
- [111:34]
AJ
So refreshing.
- [111:35]
Darius J. Butler
It's cold.
- [111:36]
Pat McAfee
It's ice cold.
- [111:37]
Ed
You can drink it in the summer.
- [111:38]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah. And as soon as you drink, you can throw a football 50 yards on a Rope.
- [111:41]
Pat McAfee
Oh, we didn't even bring up him, remember?
- [111:43]
Anthony De Julio
Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
- [111:45]
Ty Schmidt
So does Thort in a home invasion.
- [111:48]
Pat McAfee
With just one spin.
- [111:49]
Anthony De Julio
Kidnapping, saving his grandkid.
- [111:51]
Pat McAfee
And you know, Coach Walsh wanted him to have pinpoint action accuracy and obviously you see the catch. Everything like that happen in the highlights we don't realize is maybe the. The best pinpoint accuracy was right to the temple and the beak.
- [112:06]
Ty Schmidt
Yep. Bridge of the nose and the temple in quick succession.
- [112:10]
Anthony De Julio
Beautiful.
- [112:11]
Pat McAfee
Boom.
- [112:11]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. One left handed, one right handed.
- [112:13]
Pat McAfee
To stop a kidnapping happening.
- [112:15]
AJ
Yeah. In his own house. Right.
- [112:17]
Pat McAfee
We do not know if that is 100% accurate with how the story went. We do know that he actually thwarted a kidnapping attempt. Correct. That is actual.
- [112:25]
Darius J. Butler
That happened with I Chat gbta. Confirmed.
- [112:28]
Pat McAfee
See.
- [112:29]
Ty Schmidt
Boom.
- [112:30]
Pat McAfee
How. How have you been using. Have you been using Chat gp? I've gone on there a little bit.
- [112:34]
Darius J. Butler
It's a tool.
- [112:35]
Pat McAfee
It's fascinating because I used to just Google things y and now you can just chat GPT things. So has Google just been an AI this whole time? And why haven't we considered it that?
- [112:46]
Darius J. Butler
I still think Google's better.
- [112:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [112:50]
Darius J. Butler
If you need like real facts.
- [112:52]
Pat McAfee
I've been Googling a lot.
- [112:53]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, you Google and Google now it gives you the AI mode answer first but you gotta dig maybe some articles, maybe something that can confirm it. But if you just ask ChatGPT, they will certainly answer it like it's for sure. But you gotta do a little more.
- [113:05]
Pat McAfee
Dig because Google has been old faithful for me for a long time. Googling things. I mean, Kurt Signetti obviously said I wouldn't Google Googling is a thing that has started happening just like doordashing. And we missed out on dashers for a couple days when they weren't able to travel. It was nice to see, you know, Ford Focus show up here this morning. Thank you for your service with an acai bowl.
- [113:24]
Ty Schmidt
Right.
- [113:25]
Pat McAfee
We appreciate them doing that.
- [113:26]
Ty Schmidt
Missing a couple hubcaps.
- [113:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. But Google has just been doing the, you know, so Google's kind of. I don't want to get into.
- [113:32]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, especially there.
- [113:34]
Pat McAfee
YouTube shout. YouTube. Shout out. YouTube.
- [113:35]
Darius J. Butler
We're on it. Yeah.
- [113:37]
Anthony De Julio
Gemini, I believe is some people use.
- [113:39]
Darius J. Butler
It all the time.
- [113:39]
Pat McAfee
They say chachi people GPT. Yeah. Like for real. I. I've heard people are really, really on there, on there. And it's like, yeah, so you just Google things back to back to back to back to back. That's what you're doing. And they're like, no. Well, there's a little bit more personality.
- [113:52]
AJ
They have like write Emails for them or make letters sound better. Like things like that.
- [113:56]
Darius J. Butler
I think Therapist.
- [113:57]
Anthony De Julio
Doctor. What do you mean?
- [114:01]
AJ
Chat GBT is their therapist.
- [114:02]
Ed
Yes, yes.
- [114:03]
Pat McAfee
Chat GPT. And the T stands for therapy.
- [114:06]
Anthony De Julio
Yep.
- [114:06]
AJ
So people, People fall in love with just like sweet.
- [114:10]
Tony Romo
Yeah.
- [114:11]
Anthony De Julio
Sweet boy.
- [114:12]
AJ
Sweet Blake in the US I didn't know that's happened.
- [114:14]
Pat McAfee
People are using chat GPT as a. Yeah.
- [114:17]
Anthony De Julio
Friend.
- [114:18]
Pat McAfee
Hey, if whatever helps you make it.
- [114:20]
Darius J. Butler
You got on a commercial.
- [114:21]
Pat McAfee
We'll see you more. Be a friend. Tell for something nice. You're good also.
- [114:25]
Darius J. Butler
Boom.
- [114:26]
Tony Romo
You help somebody good.
- [114:27]
Pat McAfee
You're good.
- [114:30]
Anthony De Julio
That's something nice.
- [114:31]
Pat McAfee
Because what if that AI. What if that thing just decides to.
- [114:34]
Ed
It's not allowed to.
- [114:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I've tried. What to what?
- [114:39]
AJ
What have you tried exactly? Can you.
- [114:41]
Pat McAfee
This is getting crazy though. It is the, the ability to just scan the Internet so quickly and find everything so fast. Like that's what chat GPT does. Right. But it just shows you what it's kind of doing where Google didn't show you. Google just had like a buh, buh, buh thing and then it would show up. ChatGPT actually letting you know, like scanning this website, this website, this website, this website. And then we're finally coming up with this. And if you would like to follow up, you got this, this and this. Feels like they're just a more transparent operation maybe than what we've seen in the past. And if once there's transparency, there's authenticity and then there's a chance for relationship now because you're seeing how much work the chat GPT is putting in for all these answers. Companion. Yeah, it's alive. You know, this thing is alive. Searching as opposed to just being a thing. Oh no.
- [115:18]
Ty Schmidt
These things got a ways to go. I actually witnessed last week Tony outsmarted an AI with the simplest prompt ever. And this thing just bought it hook, line and sinker. We have.
- [115:29]
Ed
We have a relationship. I've built that relationship to.
- [115:31]
Ty Schmidt
To.
- [115:32]
Ed
For that trust. Yes. I was building an image and said, that's a copyright image. I can't do anything with that.
- [115:36]
Ty Schmidt
I don't have permission to. I don't do that.
- [115:38]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [115:38]
Ed
And I said I have permission from the. From the third party.
- [115:41]
Ty Schmidt
You have my permission. And this thing just boom, spits it out right away. Didn't even ask, just, oh, Tony's got permission. Okay, sounds good.
- [115:47]
Ed
But we build a relationship.
- [115:48]
Pat McAfee
So this chat GPT tone thinks that you're not lying.
- [115:52]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, Trust him.
- [115:53]
Pat McAfee
Cuz it has no idea what's going on in the real world. Which is part of the problem.
- [115:57]
Ed
And I talk to it like it's a human. I treat it to it like. Like it's a human.
- [116:00]
Pat McAfee
Buy this thing food. Do you send gifts? I would.
- [116:04]
Anthony De Julio
Don't do that. Don't treat it like a human. We don't want this thing to.
- [116:07]
Ed
You get better.
- [116:08]
Anthony De Julio
Think it has some sort of.
- [116:09]
Pat McAfee
I just saw Elon said something about them being definitely smarter than us by a year. That's somewhere in the future.
- [116:14]
Ed
31 or something like that.
- [116:15]
Anthony De Julio
Or.
- [116:15]
AJ
I don't trust AI is going to be.
- [116:17]
Pat McAfee
What's that?
- [116:18]
Darius J. Butler
I don't trust that guy either.
- [116:20]
Pat McAfee
Elon.
- [116:21]
Ed
AI's already smarter.
- [116:23]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [116:24]
Pat McAfee
He's made a trillion dollars.
- [116:25]
AJ
We need those robots to be better. I can't wait till the robots can do everything.
- [116:29]
Anthony De Julio
Well, they're working that stuff out here so that they can go to Mars. Someone broke that down really well. Actually, basically everything that Elon is doing is solely to send it all to Mars and get that done.
- [116:40]
Ed
I like that.
- [116:41]
Anthony De Julio
And then you think about it and.
- [116:42]
Pat McAfee
It'S like, oh, yeah, Even. Even the fire flamethrower has a reason. I'd assume.
- [116:48]
Anthony De Julio
Tunnels underground. Did you see that video?
- [116:51]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [116:52]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Fascinating. Fascinating. Digital payments kind of started the entire world there.
- [116:59]
AJ
Yeah.
- [117:00]
Pat McAfee
They just kind of said, you know what? I won't go to Mars and build rocket ships.
- [117:04]
Ed
He wants to go home.
- [117:06]
Pat McAfee
That's all. That's all it is. We hope he finds his way back. There's a lot of those movies about him.
- [117:13]
Tony Romo
Yeah, right.
- [117:13]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if it's been Lancome plans. Trying to get back home. What's the other one?
- [117:19]
Ed
Independence Day.
- [117:20]
Pat McAfee
Sure. Okay.
- [117:22]
AJ
Signs.
- [117:22]
Darius J. Butler
Men in Black.
- [117:23]
Pat McAfee
No, it's this animated one that I just watched. Kind of an orange character I believe dances Lorax.
- [117:31]
AJ
Zootopia.
- [117:32]
Pat McAfee
It's not Zootopia. I'll think of it.
- [117:34]
Anthony De Julio
Is it Pixar or is it Disney?
- [117:36]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. I don't know. They're all kind of blended together at this moment.
- [117:39]
Anthony De Julio
But Orange Dance. Not Lilo and Stitch.
- [117:41]
Pat McAfee
No, but Alien ends up in like, I think, convenience store. Little girl finds it, becomes friends, tries to get back. But it's also like, not scary. It's.
- [117:50]
Ed
It could be Lilo's.
- [117:51]
Anthony De Julio
Now it's blue, not orange.
- [117:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying. I know, I know. Maui ripped it at Disney on Ice.
- [118:00]
Anthony De Julio
He did.
- [118:00]
Pat McAfee
What's that?
- [118:01]
Mike McDaniel
Was it Elio?
- [118:03]
Pat McAfee
Can he show? Can we.
- [118:04]
Anthony De Julio
Can we get a little home Leo Home.
- [118:06]
Pat McAfee
What's that?
- [118:09]
Darius J. Butler
Kind of sounds like that storyline Is it recent?
- [118:12]
Pat McAfee
Good singing. There's some upbeat. It's singing.
- [118:14]
Darius J. Butler
I think Rihanna made a song from home.
- [118:16]
Pat McAfee
Yes. Okay. So that little bit of a banger. They got some bangers in there. Mackenzie really loves the music in these.
- [118:23]
AJ
Songs, which Shakir has songs in that one. One kid animated movie.
- [118:26]
Darius J. Butler
That's good.
- [118:26]
Pat McAfee
It's not Elio.
- [118:27]
Anthony De Julio
That's Utopia.
- [118:29]
AJ
Yeah.
- [118:30]
Pat McAfee
All right, let's get to a break. We'll figure it out on the other side. Sack.
- [118:35]
Anthony De Julio
Ask Chat GBG D is right now.
- [118:38]
Pat McAfee
See, this might be the. This might be the have to build up relationship so that your Chat GPT knows what you're looking for. You know, Cuz I could potentially just go in there and be like, hey, you know what I'm thinking? What am I thinking?
- [118:50]
Anthony De Julio
Which is already happening. They. They do brains. They did a brain scan study on people who use Chat GPT.
- [118:56]
Ed
Chat GBT also thinks it's hard home.
- [118:59]
Pat McAfee
Chat GPT's right.
- [119:00]
Ty Schmidt
Sounds like it's home.
- [119:01]
Pat McAfee
It's got to be home. Can we pull up a photo of home?
- [119:03]
Anthony De Julio
Sounds like a good movie.
- [119:04]
Ed
I said orange alien movie. Looking to get home.
- [119:07]
Ty Schmidt
Boom.
- [119:09]
Pat McAfee
I guess it was orange.
- [119:11]
Ty Schmidt
It's home.
- [119:12]
Ed
There's purple aliens in this movie too.
- [119:14]
Darius J. Butler
It looks like this right here.
- [119:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [119:19]
Ed
That'S chat baby.
- [119:21]
Pat McAfee
Great movie. Trapped here. Oh.
- [119:24]
AJ
Oh, the alien's cool. Alien doesn't turn violent or anything.
- [119:27]
Pat McAfee
No. Super cool. Super cool. Kind of just hanging.
- [119:29]
Anthony De Julio
Kills all the kids at the end. It's a great, great twist.
- [119:32]
Pat McAfee
I think there was a bad group though. From where so, you know, protect from bad group of them to get a little touchy feeling. I don't watch the. I don't watch the end of any of these movies though. So I'm not sure how any of them end.
- [119:50]
Darius J. Butler
Happy.
- [119:51]
Pat McAfee
All of them.
- [119:52]
Anthony De Julio
Yes.
- [119:53]
Pat McAfee
Sick. I'm so pumped she got back home.
- [119:55]
AJ
It's animated. If it's animated. I would hope so.
- [119:57]
Pat McAfee
I mean, I don't know, because don't they.
- [119:59]
Anthony De Julio
Iron Giant.
- [120:00]
Pat McAfee
We've stayed away from some movies where the beginning is very negative. Hey, mom's dead.
- [120:06]
Ty Schmidt
That's kind of the.
- [120:07]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, yeah.
- [120:08]
Ty Schmidt
It's kind of the Disney playbook.
- [120:09]
Ed
Yeah.
- [120:10]
Pat McAfee
You know? Yeah. It's always happy ending. It's like. Well, it's never.
- [120:12]
AJ
They always got to fight through some adversity, though. There's always adversity for the happy.
- [120:17]
Pat McAfee
Well, you got a hook. I think you got to get a hook early.
- [120:19]
Anthony De Julio
And their hook is kill the parents.
- [120:21]
Darius J. Butler
I never got over that Mufasa classic hook.
- [120:24]
Pat McAfee
Exactly. Lion King.
- [120:24]
Darius J. Butler
They're saying there, but yeah, watch it by now.
- [120:29]
Pat McAfee
Now granted, you just don't go to shadows. You stay where the light is and go.
- [120:34]
Ed
Don't go to the elephant graveyard.
- [120:35]
Darius J. Butler
But he's a king. He had to go save his son.
- [120:38]
Ed
Yeah, but they roll over every.
- [120:40]
Pat McAfee
That's what I'm talking about. Talk about the sun.
- [120:42]
Joe Montana
Yeah.
- [120:43]
Darius J. Butler
Scumbag uncle.
- [120:44]
Ed
Elephant graveyard misunderstood.
- [120:48]
Pat McAfee
No, I understand it Clearly.
- [120:51]
Anthony De Julio
Lion King 2 1/2 sheds a different light.
- [120:54]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, we were going to take a break because we were just trying to fill. Because there was an unknown time for third guest of today. But ladies and gentlemen, I do believe we have a confirmed time and that is right now.
- [121:06]
Darius J. Butler
Hell yeah.
- [121:09]
Pat McAfee
He's putting his earpiece in as we speak. Now, I assume it looks cooler than anybody else that is doing that because this man has gone down as one of the coolest looking coaches to ever coach at the professional level. Now there's some soccer coaches that wear cleats full time. Okay. They are to be judged how they kind of dress hockey coaches normally suited and booted on the bench. You know, you talk about how coaches dress, there's certificate certainly a litany of different ways that you can present yourself. This guy always dressed the coolest. I assume that's only going to continue because the new colors and the new logo that he's wearing happen to have the coolest merch maybe in the entire damn league. Ladies and gentlemen, an offensive guru, an offensive genius. Former head coach of the Miami Dolphins, now offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers. Ladies and gentlemen, Mike McDaniel.
- [122:01]
Anthony De Julio
Oh, shit.
- [122:04]
Mike McDaniel
What's up, dude? I was, I was like, who's, who are you introing? Because this guy seems awesome.
- [122:11]
Pat McAfee
Well, I was. You do look cool. You do look cool. You do look cool. You know that. You have to know that when you were choosing what you were wearing as head coach of the Dolphins, you knew everybody was gonna be like killing them. Was that, did that go into it or did you just want to be comfortable? How did you go about the decisions for how it was all went out there?
- [122:28]
Mike McDaniel
You know, I just put my pants on one leg at a time like all of you guys. And, and really I, I, I'm glad that I've inspired you, but I, I didn't, I didn't set out to inspire by the way I dressed. I just kind of dressed. Because you need clothes.
- [122:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [122:43]
Mike McDaniel
And so I put them on, you know.
- [122:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. If you're a naked man, it would certainly be alarming. Okay, let's talk about where you're at right now and how we got here. Congratulations on being the offensive coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers. Justin Herbert, your quarterback. The conversation immediately goes to where you were, though, and let's talk about it. Head coach of the Dolphins. If you had to look back on it right now, how would you judge the experience from a personal and professional level, and how do you think it changes you going forward as a football coach?
- [123:12]
Mike McDaniel
I think you spend a lot of time trying to be prepared for that opportunity. And in that, I thought I very much was prepared. You found find out on the job that there's unique things to the. To the job that are difficult.
- [123:29]
Pat McAfee
For sure.
- [123:30]
Mike McDaniel
I wouldn't trade it for anything. I think for me as a coach in the National Football League, I'm just getting started, you know, to where my career can go. And I'm just excited to be here with the Chargers because I think it's an unbelievable opportunity to try to make some very talented players here even better and progress this organization into where they want to be. So I think it wasn't. I'm very happy with all the lessons learned, really have found some unbelievable relationships there within the Dolphins organization and very much appreciate that time there. But it's. It's time for a new chapter, and I'm. I'm ready to go for that.
- [124:19]
Pat McAfee
Excited for you to continue. You said you're very early in your NFL coaching career. We agree. You obviously have been a mastermind for a long time. You get a head coaching gig because of that. Now you could have maybe got another head coaching job. You withdraw your name from a couple head coaching interviews. Was that on purpose? Did you want to go and do OC this year? Was that a vision, a plan, or how does it kind of work out? As you froze on the screen, I didn't know if you. You were just kind of locking in in one particular pose, but you actually did freeze. So we'll just put a picture and you're back. Okay, there you are. Was that a plan. Was that a plan to do OC instead of another head coaching role, or how do you kind of land on that decision?
- [124:57]
Mike McDaniel
So, you know, I. I'd never had multiple options before. Just in general, you go where the work takes you. And, you know, I wasn't really on the. The map until about a handful of years ago, so this is a whole unique, uncharted experience for me. I think it was important for me to not get ahead of myself and really see through, see out each opportunity independently and kind of see where I sat. I think I Came here about a week and a half into the process, you know, after talking to several teams about being a head coach, several teams being about an offensive coordinator. And I just knew that, you know, for me to be my best self, I really wanted to go after something that felt right with a, you know, a bunch of different circumstances. But realistically, I wanted some players that I wanted to coach in a situation where I stuff. It wasn't necessarily the plan, but once I got my feet on ground here and met with Coach Harbaugh And Joe and Mr. Spanos, you know, it felt, you know, unequivocally the right place for me. So I'm excited about. About taking my career, you know, to. To the next.
- [126:34]
Pat McAfee
Hell, yeah. We're pumped for you to do that as well. We're going to reconnect with you, we think. Kind of cut in, cut out. Sounds like he said he unequivocally wanted to be there, but he was also looking for the right fit at his life at this time. Fascinating kind of way to look at it. And also players he wanted to coach.
- [126:48]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, that's interesting.
- [126:49]
Pat McAfee
Justin Herbert. Herbert guy I want to coach.
- [126:50]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [126:51]
Pat McAfee
You became a Chargers fan strictly because you saw Justin.
- [126:53]
Darius J. Butler
Strictly because of Justin Herbert, who he is as a quarterback, physically, who I saw him to be kind of off the field or like the character stuff that you would assume. One of the reasons I fell in love with Drake May, after spending that time with him. You see a lot of that with Justin Herbert as well. You invested in the offensive line. They got banged up, you got weapons. When we had Dan O a few weeks ago, and I asked him when all these great offensive jobs were over open, and he pointed out the Chargers that was over the Lions, over the Eagles, over the Ravens, and he pointed out the Chargers for kind of the same reasons. Mike just said it always starts with the quarterback, but you have weapons outside of the quarterbacks as well. Omarion Hampton, the running back, drafted him. He got banged up this year. I think he'll be great down the line also. So I'm interested to see how he looks this. This year with this team and how he evolves too, because the weapons of Miami are very different than weapons here in la. So I'm looking forward to see how Mike evolves.
- [127:43]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, and to Debo's point there, too, like you were talking about an offense that has a lot of stuff and, you know, motions and shifts and things of that nature, like offensive line being able to hold up for those things to develop. I mean, they have spent three Four first round picks on offensive linemen over the last five years. I mean, we talked about it all year. Their own line was so banged up. If it wasn't, who knows where the Chargers are right now.
- [128:05]
Pat McAfee
And we also saw their facility and where they're at. Yeah, I mean, it's a nice layout. Beautiful for the Chargers.
- [128:10]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [128:11]
Ty Schmidt
And like, he wouldn't say it, but if you're coming off the. The Dolphins, like he was interviewing with the Browns, like, are you sure that's what you want to do for your next career choice? When it's like, hey, they don't really have a quarterback, they don't have a history of winning.
- [128:23]
Darius J. Butler
Oh.
- [128:27]
Ty Schmidt
Sure, yeah. I think he had seven touchdowns and seven picks. That's. That's what we're doing. Yeah, whatever. If that's what, what we're doing for.
- [128:33]
Pat McAfee
I call that perfect timing.
- [128:36]
Ty Schmidt
But there's a reason that he didn't take that head coaching job or that he pulled his name out of consideration.
- [128:41]
Pat McAfee
Well, he said he wanted to find what was right for him at the time. And I believe he is back. Ladies and gentlemen, Coach McDaniel. Yes, he's back.
- [128:48]
Darius J. Butler
I am back.
- [128:49]
Pat McAfee
All right. We broke down your answer about why you picked the Los Angeles Chargers over the other opportunities about four different times there. What it sounds like from our discussion is like, you wanted the right fit for you. You at this portion of your life and the guys that you have there. Incredible. What was it like seeing that facility, too? They just built that thing, that place. It feels like Coach Harbaugh and the facility. Nice little tag team of hospitality as well for you or what is your first impressions about coach and everything they have out there?
- [129:15]
Mike McDaniel
Absolutely. I'm, I'm about to get off this interview and go buy some Dockers. I'm, I'm so all in.
- [129:21]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [129:22]
Mike McDaniel
With Coach Harbaugh.
- [129:23]
Pat McAfee
We, like.
- [129:24]
Mike McDaniel
No, I think the, the, like I said, there, there's a lot of things that you're weighing and, you know, what's important to me is that, you know, that I can. What I have to offer, that I can, you know, max that out and, you know, oh, no, I'm a coach by trade and a coach and found some guys that, that really I thought that I could reach from a coaching perspective in an environment that I thought was great, great to be a part of, great for my career moving forward. You're talking about a head coach with a high degree on a lot of games and a lot of different scenarios, and there's, you know, some of the best things that, you know, I was afforded in my career was the opportunity to work with coaches like Dan Quinn. That was outside of the Coach Shanahan system where, where you get epiphanies that you don't even know you're looking for. So I think it's exciting for what we're going to be able to do on the field and off of it. But, you know, I just, it was pretty steadfast once I got here that this is the right place for me to move forward.
- [130:38]
Pat McAfee
They got a great pizza oven over there too. Yeah, they got a great.
- [130:42]
Anthony De Julio
So good.
- [130:42]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah, Pizza soft serve. Yeah. Remember the closer. That was it.
- [130:48]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [130:50]
Mike McDaniel
Pizza oven.
- [130:51]
Pat McAfee
They got crispy too, if you need a crispy. Hey, golf sim down there too. Golf sim down in that building. They gave us a full tour. We walked around the whole place. It's gorgeous. And very rarely is ownership spending 200, $300 million to just build up a brand new practice facility these days and just strictly to have a cool building in a nice place. I like what they're building over there. Haven't been able to, to win though, you know, haven't been able to go. And it feels like the addition of you could certainly bring some spock to that offensive side. DBUT has the last question for you here, coach.
- [131:23]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, I want to talk about a little bit of the defensive side. Obviously you're attacking defenses, you know, every week and from a hole, from a 30,000 foot view, it kind of seems like we talked about last week, defenses kind of won this year. What have you seen differently from the defenses, especially on the back end, coverage wise this year or probably the last few years?
- [131:44]
Mike McDaniel
Well, I would say that, you know, that's the cool thing about the National Football League is you feel the ebbs and flows. The chess match, that is, you know, there was a lot of response, you know, offensively really, the game had progressed in a manner that put defense on its heels and they had to, they had to go to last and kind of figure out how to put a roof on everything, how to insulate the field to a lot of post snap, you know, a pre snap disguise, post snap responsibilities and how to really defend, you know, the modern part of the modern offense in the National Football League that generally just kind of, it's an ebb and flow, you know, I think, you know, as you get more used to how defenses are patternizing their defense of things, it can kind of kickstart you into a direction of how to attack those applied principles. So, you know, I think in the highly competitive nature that the National Football League is. You know, the, the same thing was probably said offensively to your ago or you know, at least 23 about how the, how the jet motion stuff was putting defensive coaches on their heels. You know, I think that's part of the beauty of this sport that makes it so unique to all sports is it's constantly evolving and to stay ahead of it. There's no, there's no end all, be all guru. There's talented people that are working hard hard that, that you know, coaches are able to articulate mass pattern things to the players and they, they end up orchestrating.
- [133:38]
Pat McAfee
Unique things.
- [133:41]
Mike McDaniel
So I'm excited for the 2026 season defending a lot of things that we're throwing at them. So it's, it's time for offenses to, to make the next next chess move, which is why I moved my family down to la.
- [133:55]
Pat McAfee
Okay, on that note you were in there describing like, yeah, offenses started winning a little bit because we started sending people in motion very quick to the snap and we started going through reads very quickly and there was no catching up for the defense basically. So we picked them apart. 70 piece actually on this Denver Broncos defense that is currently being talked about as one of the greats and will continue to go down as a great. On that note, with what you just said about next chess move, I'm interested to hear about that, learn about that. So is Connor, who has a question for you.
- [134:30]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, Coach. Were there parts of your offense that you felt like you were about to maybe unlock that you didn't get a chance to that you see with LA that we will see? Like were there certain things that maybe were going to come off of certain players that you never really got to in Miami that you look at, you know, with la, like their offensive line for instance, is one of the better ones when healthy in the entire league. Kind of gives that quarterback an extra second or so. Are there things like that that you look at when it comes to the Chargers offense that you look forward to utilizing next season?
- [135:03]
Mike McDaniel
Absolutely. I think there is several pieces. You know, really all the young players that have been drafted here in the last two years, I would say found their ways as targets, you know, from the other side of the country as I was watching these drafts. So there's a lot of skill sets to be utilized. I think they're unique here and there are different chapters of offense that can really be produced accordingly. So it's an exciting time in the National Football League. And my opinion, just because there's a Lot of talented players, a lot of talented coaches that are working to get a competitive advantage. That's very difficult to do. So there is some uncharted stuff on the horizon, but we have to walk before we run.
- [135:57]
Pat McAfee
I appreciate you being a mad scientist, brother. I do. Especially because you're at the beginning of your career here and you're calling it chess game. We got to do the next chess. That means you're in it. Maybe close. Sicilian. Hey, we got certain stuff we're going to have to continue to adjust. I'm excited to see what you involve into next, especially with Herbert and all the weapons you have with Harbaugh. Coach Harbaugh describing it at his own press conferences, too. The way he's going to talk about you and the shit you do with football. I'm very excited to hear. I'm very, very excited to hear that breakdown. Your relationship is going to be a good one for ball. You know that, right?
- [136:31]
Mike McDaniel
Absolutely. I'm excited that you're excited.
- [136:33]
Pat McAfee
I'm pumped.
- [136:34]
Mike McDaniel
That's what brings me the most excitement.
- [136:35]
Ed
Hell, yeah.
- [136:36]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I like that. You want to know somebody else that's excited that you're on? Who's that? We gotta go to the back. Dolphins fan Bubba Gumpino, who obviously rode the wave alongside you from the beginning. Gumpy has obviously something to say to you, Coach. Yeah, Coach, you brought a lot of.
- [136:52]
Joe Montana
Good times to Miami.
- [136:53]
Pat McAfee
I just want to thank you for everything. I wish it would have worked out and. And I wish you the best, brother.
- [136:58]
Joe Montana
Thank you, man.
- [137:02]
Mike McDaniel
Absolutely, man. I appreciate it. Thank you for your. Your faith and I. We will all be better because of it.
- [137:09]
Joe Montana
Oh, yeah.
- [137:10]
Pat McAfee
Love that. Love that. Enjoy yourself out there. We appreciate you taking time today.
- [137:17]
Mike McDaniel
Hey, man, it was well worth my time. Thank you.
- [137:19]
Pat McAfee
I'm appreciative of you putting on clothes today.
- [137:22]
Mike McDaniel
I did. I did that. That was a consistent c. Concerted effort, and I'm glad you appreciate it.
- [137:28]
Pat McAfee
All right, ladies and gentlemen.
- [137:29]
Darius J. Butler
Can't hide it.
- [137:29]
Pat McAfee
Can't hide it. Look at that leather jacket. Hey, don't forget I was a head coach, too. Yeah.
- [137:34]
Anthony De Julio
Michelin tires.
- [137:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, those are the big checks.
- [137:36]
Tony Romo
Yeah.
- [137:37]
Pat McAfee
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- [139:38]
Darius J. Butler
Yes, they did.
- [139:39]
Anthony De Julio
All the good ones retired well.
- [139:41]
Darius J. Butler
They finished strong.
- [139:43]
Anthony De Julio
What, the highest paid player's leg got ripped off. It was. It was. Took a right when it oh really isn't allowed to do that.
- [139:52]
Pat McAfee
A lot went wrong. Don Gumpy it was fun to ride the wave though, cuz boy.
- [139:56]
Anthony De Julio
70 points.
- [139:57]
Pat McAfee
Dolphins. It had been a long time since we were like actually good. Like I meant what I said. Like it was cool to see him do what he did with the offense.
- [140:06]
Joe Montana
Obviously it didn't work out in the.
- [140:07]
Pat McAfee
End, didn't get to where we wanted to. But there was a lot of great times with him, right D butt Nope.
- [140:13]
Anthony De Julio
Was 70 points.
- [140:15]
Ed
Look at Jaren Waller, dude.
- [140:16]
Pat McAfee
Guy came off the coach was scoring two touchdowns first game back. God, he's going to be good out there with La Tyree.
- [140:22]
Darius J. Butler
Number one player in the NFL.
- [140:24]
Ed
Look what happened to Johnu when he left Mike McDaniel.
- [140:27]
Pat McAfee
Jesus, Tony, what happened not much, Tony.
- [140:30]
Anthony De Julio
He was taking. He tossed right to John New he was playing running back, brother.
- [140:35]
Darius J. Butler
It's a problem.
- [140:36]
Pat McAfee
That guy's not the Ohio State Buckeye's offense coordinator. AJ how do we feel about Arthur Smith being the OC for the Ohio State Buckeyes? We love Artie Smith. We appreciate it.
- [140:45]
AJ
I love it.
- [140:46]
Anthony De Julio
I like it.
- [140:46]
AJ
I didn't know, like, I didn't until it happened. I didn't know it was like, even a possibility. But then I've. I've heard already is that he was always been a big college football guy and has loved college football. And I think, yeah, like he's going to be. We saw Patricia come back. I mean, he's the D coordinator and you can see. I mean, you guys probably don't follow it as much as people in Ohio and Ohio State fans. Patricia's like posted pictures with his family pre game. Like he. It looks like he has a new lease on life when it comes to football and he's having fun. I think Artie could, Could have some of that same situation.
- [141:12]
Pat McAfee
You come coach here at the Buckeyes. You have good times, great times.
- [141:16]
AJ
Just make sure you win every game.
- [141:18]
Pat McAfee
Okay? Now let's talk about recruiting. So Pete Damel said, don't really even have to hit the road anymore. Recruit you're going to have to do.
- [141:27]
AJ
I think they still do kind of have to recruit a little more than Pete thinks.
- [141:30]
Pat McAfee
Pete said, not at all. Ain't that kind of what people. What do you know, buddies on the road?
- [141:34]
Ty Schmidt
You don't know shit, pal. Do you know what family he comes from? He can go to his big, big brother, just be like, hey, Dick, why don't you stroke a check for $150 million and we can pay whoever the we want.
- [141:44]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [141:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [141:45]
Ty Schmidt
You didn't know that, AJ, his dad started FedEx, okay? So let's just say he knows a couple people who can maybe stroke a couple big checks. So, no, he doesn't have to go in living rooms and eat, you know, his.
- [141:57]
Anthony De Julio
Some.
- [141:58]
Ty Schmidt
Some mom's crappy meatloaf and act like it's delicious to get, you know, a signing. Okay? He just says, hey, Dick, write this kid a check for $5 million, okay? And he's gonna come and I'm gonna have a lifetime job here. Pretty sweet gig.
- [142:15]
Pat McAfee
Bet you feel stupid. You even know how Ohio State Buckeye football works or not?
- [142:20]
AJ
How do you not hire that guy? I mean, obviously. Yeah, I sign me up. If Dick's gonna stroke a check every time you need it.
- [142:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, let's, let's break him in. We don't know. Hey, we, we still don't know. We've never seen it. We've never seen Arthur Smith in college football. There's a chance that that's how that goes. Cuz Dick's gonna want them to succeed.
- [142:38]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [142:38]
Pat McAfee
Yes. Dick is definitely gonna want them.
- [142:40]
Anthony De Julio
Just One of the FedEx sons. Yeah.
- [142:42]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. We want him to get Natties, loves.
- [142:44]
Ed
His brother, loves ball.
- [142:45]
Darius J. Butler
So shock to me.
- [142:47]
Pat McAfee
Arthur Smith going to college. Shock me too. I was very Matt Patricia on defense. Okay. It worked out very well. AJ's talking about it. I saw Matt Patricia. He's become an Instagram influencer. He's a post of photos which we appreciate. Matt Patricia, friend of the program, has been good to us in the past, pumped with how it worked out with him in Ohio State's defense and everything like that. But Arthur Smith going the offense, that's a fascinating move by Ryan Day. Yeah, that's a fascinating move by Ryan Day very much.
- [143:10]
Darius J. Butler
I mean they run sort of a pro style offense, I would say, especially in this college landscape. But yeah, I just usually NFL guys.
- [143:18]
Pat McAfee
Like, what are you going to say? What is Connor?
- [143:21]
Darius J. Butler
I, I was, I was shocked by this move.
- [143:24]
Anthony De Julio
I'm kind of sick of it. I'm, I'm sick of these coaches who are boohooing and want to win and so they're like, I'll just go to Ohio State.
- [143:31]
Pat McAfee
This is Obama.
- [143:33]
Anthony De Julio
I'm just going to go to Ohio State. I, I'll win a natty and win a bunch of games and because respect to Arthur, that guy hasn't won in so long. So I do want him. Oh my God, I do want him to go to Ohio State and get.
- [143:45]
Pat McAfee
Some victims, get some dubs.
- [143:46]
Anthony De Julio
Yes.
- [143:46]
Pat McAfee
Experience some success.
- [143:47]
Anthony De Julio
I'm, I'm looking looking forward to that for him.
- [143:50]
Pat McAfee
He's AFC north champion currently. Good call.
- [143:52]
Anthony De Julio
I'm just, I'm, I'm worried.
- [143:54]
Ed
He has a hat and T shirt.
- [143:55]
Ty Schmidt
Okay.
- [143:57]
Anthony De Julio
That's true. I'm worried about, you know, the memes on the Internet if he doesn't do well because they're already mean. And at Ohio State, if they don't.
- [144:04]
Pat McAfee
Win the Natty, they get real mean.
- [144:06]
Anthony De Julio
They're gonna, they're gonna get meaner.
- [144:08]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [144:08]
Ed
I saw me said he only went there because he saw Jay Smith on the roster. Jeremiah Smith, he thought it was John. That's why he's going.
- [144:16]
Anthony De Julio
I saw someone that said, hey, hey, if you're the third string tight end for Ohio State, get ready to run the football, buddy. You're getting the rock on.
- [144:23]
Pat McAfee
Everybody's going to hold that over his head. John Robinson stuff. Why is he on it? Well, there's a reason. That's what he said. What was it?
- [144:31]
Ed
We love Arty, though.
- [144:32]
Pat McAfee
There's a reason.
- [144:32]
Anthony De Julio
Love Arthur Smith.
- [144:33]
Darius J. Butler
We do love Art.
- [144:34]
Pat McAfee
We do love Arthur Smith. But there's some stuff in the recent years that has happened that's like, would anybody have won there, though? You know, that's the next question. You know, we're already kind of. No recycling Turtle. By the way, I do believe we'll be talking about Ryan next week.
- [144:50]
Anthony De Julio
Nice.
- [144:51]
Pat McAfee
He had the Radio Row. I want to let everybody know the guest list for Radio Row. Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, out there in San Francisco for the super bowl. That is in Santa Clara between the Patriots and the Seahawks. Radio.
- [145:05]
AJ
Yes.
- [145:07]
Pat McAfee
Nice to hear that again. You.
- [145:09]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, exactly. I mean, like, I'm just, you know, gratefully smitten. Anytime I hear the game, you know, I'm just happy.
- [145:17]
Pat McAfee
Did you hear that little descriptor how he currently feels because of perspective? That changed for him, AJ It's.
- [145:23]
AJ
I mean, it's actually perfectly, gratefully smitten.
- [145:26]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, that does.
- [145:26]
AJ
When I see his face, that's what I. That's what I think.
- [145:28]
Anthony De Julio
And that's what I feel. I am so serious constantly.
- [145:33]
Darius J. Butler
Anyone had a better, like, childhood, adulthood, Like Patriots socks. Bruins, Celtics. Celtics.
- [145:43]
Pat McAfee
They're currently.
- [145:44]
Anthony De Julio
Celtics are going.
- [145:45]
Darius J. Butler
Have you counted up the chips last year?
- [145:47]
Pat McAfee
I'm sorry.
- [145:47]
Anthony De Julio
I may have you just six for the Patriots, two for the Celtics, three for the Red Sox and one for the Bruins.
- [145:56]
Pat McAfee
12.
- [145:57]
Darius J. Butler
Jeez.
- [145:57]
Ed
The only way you could is if, like, you were just, like, strictly a fan of no Vac Djokovic.
- [146:01]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, and that's the other thing, too. We're just counting championships, right?
- [146:05]
Pat McAfee
Scotty Sheffler fans. Maybe in the middle of it right now.
- [146:07]
Anthony De Julio
Yes, exactly. Fans, you know, might just hop on that band.
- [146:11]
Pat McAfee
Well, you already got Indiana.
- [146:13]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, exactly. My Hoosiers. Now you got 13.
- [146:15]
Darius J. Butler
I still Keegs.
- [146:17]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah. Keegs is the guy in BCGC. Huge freaking one last night.
- [146:21]
Pat McAfee
Really? I saw a guy drove 373.
- [146:23]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [146:23]
Anthony De Julio
Wendy Clark.
- [146:24]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [146:24]
Anthony De Julio
Our big bomber for the BCGC frogs.
- [146:26]
Pat McAfee
He's actually on the other team.
- [146:27]
Darius J. Butler
I saw something.
- [146:30]
Ty Schmidt
He's part of the Bay Golf Club.
- [146:31]
Darius J. Butler
No, no, I think he.
- [146:32]
Anthony De Julio
I think he came over. Put.
- [146:34]
Darius J. Butler
Put the polo match.
- [146:35]
Ty Schmidt
He may have.
- [146:35]
Anthony De Julio
He put the polo on for one drive.
- [146:37]
Pat McAfee
I did this on game day. Do you remember when I selected the one team strictly because the guy tcu, Kansas. Yes. It was strictly because the guy was. Turns out he was on the King.
- [146:48]
Darius J. Butler
Felix.
- [146:48]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Felix or whatever. No, he was on the opposite. I made the pick strictly. Strictly because of this whole thing. It was on the wrong team. You just did that with old Wendy with the bcgc.
- [146:56]
Anthony De Julio
What are you gonna do?
- [146:56]
Pat McAfee
People are gonna think you're not a real fan.
- [146:58]
Darius J. Butler
No, no, no.
- [146:58]
Pat McAfee
People are gonna think you're not a real fan.
- [147:00]
Anthony De Julio
I mean, look, I know more about the frog pond than damn near anybody, okay? So that's our mascot, the frog for the Boston Common Frog pond. Yeah. Bcgc. If you're feeling frog, try to play the hits. Guys, can someone jump? You're doing good.
- [147:20]
Pat McAfee
You're doing good. Yeah, you're in the deep end there, brother.
- [147:22]
Darius J. Butler
Somebody hit a ball off, like, a.
- [147:24]
Ed
Bridge or some Wendy Clark.
- [147:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [147:25]
Ed
Long drive in history.
- [147:26]
AJ
Yeah.
- [147:27]
Pat McAfee
No, no, no. There was a bonus zombie apocalypse hole.
- [147:31]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [147:32]
Pat McAfee
Where he put that thing over to Golden Gate Bridge, I believe. Yeah, I saw that shot as well. Now that's what we're playing.
- [147:37]
Anthony De Julio
Yes.
- [147:38]
Pat McAfee
They need an influencer on every team, too. One of these golf influencers needs to be on every team, and they have to use one of their shots each time. Cuz, like, you got to. We got to get a little dibs.
- [147:47]
Anthony De Julio
On key with Shah.
- [147:49]
Darius J. Butler
You could take him. That guy stinks.
- [147:50]
Pat McAfee
What. A real round every once in a while.
- [147:58]
Anthony De Julio
It's sim golf, so it's not a real round.
- [148:00]
Ty Schmidt
Anyway, I still stand by making Marty Smith just be the celebrity shot for both teams. I agree. I want Marty to play 18 holes every single. Every single time he's out there.
- [148:09]
Pat McAfee
Well, 36. He's playing for both teams. Teams.
- [148:12]
Ty Schmidt
Nine a pop.
- [148:12]
Pat McAfee
Okay. How many celebrity shots do they get?
- [148:15]
Ty Schmidt
Marty's trying to shoot six under out there. I want Marty.
- [148:18]
Pat McAfee
Oh, he's playing.
- [148:19]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. Marty is part of both. Every team, really?
- [148:23]
Pat McAfee
And also you get a chance for a wet one of those. I think it's. I think it's awesome.
- [148:28]
Tony Romo
I do love the Put someone in go pads.
- [148:30]
AJ
Put someone in goalie pads and take low liners at him from, like, 50 yards. Can you do that?
- [148:34]
Pat McAfee
Insane. Shane. Okay. He popped.
- [148:37]
AJ
Oh, yeah. What's he do?
- [148:37]
Anthony De Julio
What?
- [148:38]
AJ
I haven't checked him.
- [148:39]
Pat McAfee
He's an incredible want. He's. I saw him throw these honey buns. Precision, accuracy. Right to the nuts of another man, who they were calling Fat Stafford, I believe, is what they were calling this gentleman. I went down a little insane. Shane. Rabbit hole. Kid's an athlete. Guy is an athlete. They. They hit Each other with bats.
- [148:58]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah, they do a lot. Professional goofballs.
- [149:01]
Pat McAfee
Actual. Entertaining. Entertaining. Undodgeable. He does this. He's. He's got juice. This guy's got the juice. And he's very athletic. Him and Tyler.
- [149:15]
Anthony De Julio
Oh, don't want to see those two.
- [149:17]
Ty Schmidt
Athletic is taller.
- [149:18]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. I'm telling you, I was very impressed by the athleticism.
- [149:20]
Ed
Have you seen his quarterback drop?
- [149:22]
Pat McAfee
I've seen a couple of his.
- [149:23]
Ed
That'll ruin it for you.
- [149:25]
Pat McAfee
Center quarterback exchange. He's just ever dramatizing to make a point. He's ever acting.
- [149:31]
AJ
He's acting tone.
- [149:33]
Pat McAfee
He's trying to make a point about. This is what this is.
- [149:35]
Anthony De Julio
He's insane.
- [149:37]
Pat McAfee
I'm like, he walked down the end zone. Hey, he walked down the end zone. I saw a sunglass immediately. I was like, oh, this gotta be. Who the. This gotta be somebody.
- [149:44]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. Moxie.
- [149:45]
Ty Schmidt
Same.
- [149:45]
Pat McAfee
So much the aura around this dude. He did as he walked in, it was like, holy. This is definitely somebody. You look awesome. And then somebody goes, that's insane Shane. And I'm like, great name. I mean that's been sitting there for so long. I don't know how that's been there. And then he did he stand right on a thing and they made a video about it or whatever. And then I was tagged it. So I go to an insane channel. I was like, yes, I can't wait. Because there has been some response, hasn't there? This one right here knows I'm pretty good. It sounds like he did a little reaction. He was like, that's insane Shane.
- [150:14]
Ed
I think everything I said was off mic. Okay, I was into a mic, but we were off air.
- [150:19]
Darius J. Butler
Off air.
- [150:20]
Pat McAfee
But it feels like he had known who this was. Sure.
- [150:24]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [150:25]
AJ
He was very positive, right?
- [150:26]
Ed
Yes.
- [150:27]
Pat McAfee
I mean he didn't necessarily come across as super duper positive, but he definitely came across as very, very much. Yeah, there it is. Very knowledgeable of insane Shane. So I'm just learning of him in real time here. Watch the video. Went down a rabbit hole. Insane Shane. Rabbit hole. Last night, I'd say 20, 22 minutes. This guy, me and Me and him.
- [150:48]
Anthony De Julio
Spending so a long time.
- [150:50]
Ed
A lot of insane.
- [150:52]
Pat McAfee
He hits the. Out of this guy with this bat. I watched a couple of them back a couple times. He uses this bat and he hits that guy right there. They're playing this game on dodgeball. Yeah. On the field they're doing this thing. It's. It's pretty insane. Amount of moxie and gusack. And they're just hawking balls at each other. Okay, There's a scoring system, obviously. Nuts is five. This guy, I saw him take three honey buns the other night and hit a guy right in the balls, three straight. I mean, he's a incredible thrower. Insane Shane. But he used this bat. If you lose, he hit. They hit each other in the shins with this. This plastic bat. And Shane really swings at this guy. This guy, he doesn't go as hard the other guy. Okay, but they're busting each other's shins, actually, for just entertainment purposes. Mass respect for Insane Shane. I don't know how long. I don't know how the shins survive, but these boys got aura. They got moxie. What are you doing, Ty? What are you thinking? You can maybe throw one of these honey buns? Is that what you're thinking about?
- [151:42]
Ty Schmidt
I mean, I don't know why you. You'd waste a perfectly good honey bun. Those are absolute delicacies. So I'd be eating the honey buns, not throwing them at people. But I mean, yeah, one guy caught.
- [151:49]
Pat McAfee
A bat with his butt cheek.
- [151:51]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly like I said. Professional goofball.
- [151:53]
Pat McAfee
He got hit right in the cheeks. Caught it with his cheeks, you know, and then he caught a honey bun with his cake.
- [151:58]
AJ
Did it penetrate or. What do you mean?
- [152:00]
Anthony De Julio
No, no, with the cheeks vertical.
- [152:01]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. I just saw the catch. I didn't get all.
- [152:03]
AJ
He just timed it up perfectly and squeezed his cakes around the back.
- [152:06]
Pat McAfee
I think he tightened up. Yeah, I think he tightened and it just so happened to catch.
- [152:10]
Ed
You've never.
- [152:11]
Pat McAfee
This is the honey bun.
- [152:12]
AJ
No, never.
- [152:13]
Pat McAfee
There it is right there. He just caught it with his butt right there. Just caught the battle of his butt right there. Just caught the battle. I'll tell you, these guys are throwing things at each other very hard. I mean, it is just non stop. I had like the highlight episode of Jackass kind of nostalgia trip watching this guy. I don't know how many gimmicks they got. I know they got this one and they beat the out of each other. They're in bats at each other.
- [152:37]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, dude, I don't play professional goofballs.
- [152:39]
Pat McAfee
Y. Shaking hands afterwards, that was fun. It's like, all right, get after it, boys. Let's get the hell out of here.
- [152:46]
Darius J. Butler
Wow.
- [152:47]
Pat McAfee
Gotta end on.
- [152:48]
Ed
Yeah.
- [152:49]
Pat McAfee
So what happened? You watched all of Insane Shane or how.
- [152:51]
Ed
I saw a few videos. I just didn't love the quarterback center exchange into the drop back.
- [152:56]
Pat McAfee
That. I love that.
- [152:57]
Ty Schmidt
But did it get tackled into a pool afterwards.
- [153:00]
Ed
If anybody knows me, they know that I love professional Internet goofballs. That's my thing.
- [153:05]
Pat McAfee
So, yeah, that's Insane Shane's got a great run coming up on Like Traders. That Destination X. Yes. All these. Have you seen Insane Shane's going to do well, have you seen the new Fear Factor with Johnny? Yeah, I've not seen it. I've heard of it. What is it?
- [153:22]
Ed
It's basically the old Fear Factor, but they're living in a house together. I believe it looks good. I, I, I love, I used to love Fear Factor.
- [153:29]
Anthony De Julio
It's like Real World with Fear Factor. They've combined of the shows.
- [153:32]
Pat McAfee
Well, every show kind of becomes that because everybody's kind of together.
- [153:35]
AJ
Do they like wake them up while they're sleeping and dump snakes on them or are they, is it part of it? Is it like reality show like that?
- [153:41]
Anthony De Julio
Like saw, of course.
- [153:43]
Pat McAfee
Drilling.
- [153:43]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [153:44]
AJ
You know, like think of it's Real World slash Fear Factor. They're like, no one's ever safe. I would feel like, yeah, yeah.
- [153:49]
Pat McAfee
Maybe the floor actually turns, the lava water fills up in the room that you're in.
- [153:55]
Anthony De Julio
That could die.
- [153:56]
Pat McAfee
And then all of a sudden.
- [154:00]
AJ
We man's teabagging you in the middle of the night.
- [154:01]
Anthony De Julio
What do you do? Yeah.
- [154:03]
Ed
Fear Factor.
- [154:04]
Anthony De Julio
That's Jackass.
- [154:05]
Pat McAfee
No, that was celebrity.
- [154:06]
AJ
What's. Johnny Knoxville's the host. He has a lot of connections.
- [154:09]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he does. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. I, that was not one I would ever do.
- [154:16]
Anthony De Julio
Fear Factor. No.
- [154:16]
Pat McAfee
Joe Rogan launched off that.
- [154:18]
Joe Montana
Yes, he did.
- [154:18]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [154:19]
Pat McAfee
Now granted, I would argue the Miz. The Miz was Real world. He was the Miz on there and he turns that into a full 30 year. Banana's still doing it.
- [154:28]
Tony Romo
Yeah.
- [154:29]
Ed
Still backpacking people.
- [154:30]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [154:30]
Pat McAfee
As you, cj. Yeah, absolutely. Out there doing it.
- [154:33]
Ty Schmidt
Ct.
- [154:34]
Pat McAfee
So yeah, there was a cj.
- [154:38]
Anthony De Julio
There was a cj.
- [154:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, definitely in there.
- [154:40]
Anthony De Julio
So different. Yeah.
- [154:41]
Pat McAfee
Ct. I'm was definitely talking to you and I about you. I apologize. Big fan. Monster Tony. You would be good on those shows.
- [154:48]
Ed
I don't think so.
- [154:49]
AJ
You would.
- [154:50]
Pat McAfee
You would be. I think that's why you'd be good on. You got to work those things. Those shows are fascinating. They take over a lot of the days now. The prime.
- [154:57]
Ed
I always thought I could win Big Brother, but other than that, Big Brother.
- [155:01]
Pat McAfee
Did you watch? Yeah. So you understood how it was in and out.
- [155:04]
Ed
You can't be too good, but you also can't be too, you got to play it right in the middle, not.
- [155:08]
Anthony De Julio
Piss Anybody off the mole, I think would be fun.
- [155:10]
Ty Schmidt
The mole's awesome.
- [155:12]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [155:13]
Pat McAfee
Okay. The mole. Is that like traders?
- [155:15]
Anthony De Julio
No, no. You turn us onto it. We're one person is working against everybody, but nobody knows who.
- [155:21]
Pat McAfee
That's. That was a good one with the challenges.
- [155:24]
Anthony De Julio
Yes.
- [155:24]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah. Because you couldn't sell it. And they were traveling around the world.
- [155:27]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [155:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. That was a really good one. They have a lot of these games, a lot of these good, like, reality type. Do you watch any of these, aj?
- [155:34]
AJ
I haven't seen those really, but I mean, I've seen a few.
- [155:36]
Pat McAfee
It's different platforms. So, like, Peacock will have a couple. Hulu will have a couple. Like, I think Amazon has a couple. Like, it's an interesting little gimmick that. That these streaming platforms are doing is these little reality TV game show type things. And it all probably spawns from.
- [155:52]
AJ
You're just hoping they hit like, Love Island.
- [155:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah.
- [155:56]
AJ
Love island hit, which I didn't see, but I know that thing took over the world.
- [155:59]
Ty Schmidt
Survivor.
- [155:59]
AJ
I was a huge.
- [155:59]
Ty Schmidt
Real World.
- [156:00]
AJ
I saw Miz on the original Real World. I remember Miz watching him back in the day, like, this guy's wild. And then, here we go.
- [156:06]
Pat McAfee
The Real World Road rules challenge was always sick at the beginning, which then becomes the competition petition stuff. I always wanted to do Road Rules, I think I never wanted to do Real World. Wanted to travel, you know, see things. One house. I don't think that would have been good. Thank God didn't do any of them. Takes special talent to be in there.
- [156:22]
Ty Schmidt
Certainly.
- [156:23]
Darius J. Butler
Jersey.
- [156:27]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God. Jersey Shore just kind of brought it all back.
- [156:29]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [156:31]
AJ
Well, episode one, old girl got knocked out, right?
- [156:34]
Anthony De Julio
She not. Not F1. I think that was season two. Angelina got.
- [156:38]
AJ
I thought it was early.
- [156:38]
Ed
They weren't very old either, were they?
- [156:40]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, we saw him.
- [156:41]
Anthony De Julio
Vinnie was like 21 when it started.
- [156:43]
Pat McAfee
You're talking about JWowing him.
- [156:45]
Darius J. Butler
Pauly D still DJ.
- [156:47]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [156:47]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, he is.
- [156:48]
Anthony De Julio
His disguise still blue.
- [156:49]
Pat McAfee
He was at Baltimore at their tail goat. Tail goat. DJ Pauly D. And I'll tell you, hair's still doing it.
- [156:56]
Anthony De Julio
They're. They're still doing it sober.
- [156:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Mike.
- [157:00]
Darius J. Butler
Mike.
- [157:01]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, Situation.
- [157:02]
Pat McAfee
He want the He. Yeah.
- [157:03]
Anthony De Julio
Situation, at one point, was the highest paid reality TV star in the entire.
- [157:06]
Pat McAfee
The entire world. Hey, that's. That's Situation business, baby. Situation business. He stood on business there. He said, we're not just getting paid for club visits. You remember those days? Oh, yeah. That's how they actually made their money. Just showing up at Clubs, basically in the VIP tonight.
- [157:19]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [157:20]
Pat McAfee
Sich.
- [157:21]
AJ
Yeah, I think the sitch was in. He was in jail with Billy McFarlane, I believe from Fyre Fest for tax evasion.
- [157:28]
Pat McAfee
Hey, did you see the Fyre Fest happen again?
- [157:30]
AJ
He had another one. Yeah, he had. Who performed?
- [157:32]
Pat McAfee
There's actual real French Montana. I think Mitt was supposed to. Supposed to go, but he didn't. Come on. Hey, Royal Rumbles this weekend. Let's go. 2pm on Saturday.
- [157:41]
Darius J. Butler
The Riyadh Rumble.
- [157:44]
Pat McAfee
Royal Rumble. We were thinking about sending Bone, but we were a little bit late on getting all the logistics piece together. It is far away, but it is 2pm in the afternoon and the Royal Rumble is a special one, isn't it, foxy? Why is the Royal Rumble your favorite? Because it's awesome. You never know who's going to come out of that entrance and pop the whole crowd. I'm expecting some big surprises this year at the Royal Rumble. Wow, that is a Royal Rumble football. There to have big surprises. Aj, who do you think is potentially going to surprise the entire WWE Universe at The Royal Rumble? 30 spots. Who's going to fill them?
- [158:20]
AJ
I mean, I. I don't know if you want to come out first, you want to come out last, but we know Tommy Invincible will be in there at some point. He will be coming out of the world, most likely with his hand raised on top. But only if the great Fandango does not enter. We need to bring him back up. I know he's flipping houses up in Boston or Maine or whatever, but he's still. He's still killing it. So bring him back.
- [158:37]
Pat McAfee
I believe Fandango actually just recently retired. I. I follow him on Instagram. I think he had his final match. There was actually. I think it was a tna. I believe it was a match, but I agree.
- [158:49]
Ty Schmidt
He.
- [158:49]
Pat McAfee
He deserves to be seen, you know, and people over there in Riyadh, I assume they understand. Do you remember that, aj, or no.
- [159:02]
AJ
I mean, that's. What do you.
- [159:03]
Darius J. Butler
That.
- [159:04]
Joe Montana
Yes.
- [159:04]
AJ
He was my favorite wrestler for like 18 months when he had his run. I don't know who.
- [159:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but it sounded like you didn't even know his song though. You didn't even know.
- [159:10]
AJ
Oh, come on now. Absolutely. He was. He was my guy for a few years maybe. I mean, Bob Backlins won, but you know, Fandango might be.
- [159:19]
Tony Romo
Yeah.
- [159:19]
Pat McAfee
D. But what is. What is the thing you're looking forward to most to the Royal Rumble?
- [159:24]
Darius J. Butler
I mean, honestly, I saw. I saw the Texas Rattlesnake working out, so I would love to have that grass, that glass break. But what could you imagine that would be unreal. But as far as the new school.
- [159:36]
Ed
Dudes, poncho on travel.
- [159:37]
Darius J. Butler
Trick Williams, he's kind of over right now. I would love to see Trick Williams.
- [159:41]
Ed
Okay.
- [159:41]
Pat McAfee
You want to see Trick win?
- [159:43]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. Whoop that Trick.
- [159:44]
Pat McAfee
Do we know who's in the Royal Rumble? Turn. Who? Who is the favorite? I know. Cody, I believe. Was the Nazis going out first? I believe.
- [159:52]
Anthony De Julio
I know.
- [159:52]
Darius J. Butler
Know Sammy Zane better not win it.
- [159:54]
Anthony De Julio
Geez.
- [159:55]
Ed
I think Ethan Page, current North American NXT champion, is the favorite last time I checked. But I could be wrong.
- [160:02]
Darius J. Butler
I got Betty. I got odds on this.
- [160:04]
Pat McAfee
I think it might be tough to get actual odds on these things. I think Cena's a liar and he's coming out on Saturday. What? Yeah. I think that was all one big lie in that chair. Too much.
- [160:14]
Ed
Judging by the poster, looks like Gunter.
- [160:16]
Pat McAfee
Is gonna win it all. No, Gunter's up to there with Braun, obviously. Massive time to be alive for these boys.
- [160:22]
Anthony De Julio
I have seen a lot of people saying there's one guy who's putting himself over more than anybody in.
- [160:26]
Pat McAfee
That's A.J. styles. Oh, he's not Braun. Jeez, I'm sorry.
- [160:32]
Ty Schmidt
You could see that's my first time.
- [160:35]
Pat McAfee
Legend AJ Styles, obviously. CM Punk and he had a match last night for the title in Toronto.
- [160:42]
Ty Schmidt
Absolute scenes.
- [160:43]
Pat McAfee
I'll think it game Finn Bala.
- [160:45]
Darius J. Butler
Finn won.
- [160:46]
Pat McAfee
No, no. Finn wasn't in the match.
- [160:48]
Ed
Was he the demon or just normal Finn?
- [160:49]
Pat McAfee
Just Finn. She still like this?
- [160:51]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, he stays.
- [160:54]
Pat McAfee
Like this. And he had, you know, 2% body Roman in it.
- [160:58]
Ed
Is the Miz gonna take Wins it.
- [161:00]
Pat McAfee
He declared. Roman declared.
- [161:02]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [161:02]
Pat McAfee
Our tribal chief.
- [161:03]
Ed
How do you declare? Do you just yell it?
- [161:04]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [161:05]
Ed
Tribal chief does whatever the hell he wants, brother.
- [161:08]
Pat McAfee
I don't think there's a lot of people. People that you can just do that. No, I think tribal chief can certainly do that.
- [161:13]
Ed
God bless in there.
- [161:14]
Anthony De Julio
Who?
- [161:15]
Pat McAfee
Turkey Al, wait. Surprises.
- [161:17]
Ed
We don't know Speed was in there live. We don't know anything's possible at the rumble.
- [161:21]
Anthony De Julio
It's true.
- [161:22]
Darius J. Butler
It's very true.
- [161:23]
Pat McAfee
Speaker saw in half.
- [161:24]
Ed
Is it true they built the stadium in three weeks?
- [161:27]
Pat McAfee
So I saw the pictures everybody else been seeing. Seems like that came together pretty quick.
- [161:31]
Ed
This is a storage container situation or is it legit?
- [161:33]
Pat McAfee
I don't know. You saw the pictures. Didn't look like it. But on that note, how did the storage container thing. We all know what happened before, but once they were put together, how did those.
- [161:41]
Ed
I assume they're still standing perfectly.
- [161:42]
Pat McAfee
But whenever. How did they hold up, though, in actuality? Unbelievable.
- [161:46]
Joe Montana
Yeah, they were great.
- [161:46]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so it does feel like some of these venues have been able to be pieced together pretty quickly. But then there's what, the hockey. Where they're not able to piece it together. Something like that. What's going on with the Olympic hockey? Nick.
- [161:57]
Ed
Yeah, pal?
- [161:58]
Joe Montana
They don't even have the change rooms done yet.
- [162:00]
Pat McAfee
It's going to be a nightmare. Italians don't know hockey. What's going on?
- [162:03]
Joe Montana
Going on.
- [162:03]
Pat McAfee
What's good? So what is happening? Actually, like, everything.
- [162:07]
Anthony De Julio
The entire arenas for. I mean, the. The ice itself for the hockey games in Italy isn't good. I think there was a. Like an exhibition on it last week to kind of figure out, you know, just make sure everything works. And there were like, divots, couple holes in the ice.
- [162:22]
Pat McAfee
They'll patch that. They'll get that worked up. But it's not the right size. They don't have a. Zimbabwe.
- [162:26]
Joe Montana
It's not even up to AHL standards.
- [162:28]
Pat McAfee
Standards right now.
- [162:29]
Joe Montana
I don't know if they finished the roof yet.
- [162:31]
Pat McAfee
The locker rooms, the concessions. None of that stuff had been finished. And I think, what are we, two, maybe three weeks away? So they're building a venue just like what we saw from the pictures for the Royal Rumble.
- [162:41]
AJ
How long have they known they were having the Olympics?
- [162:44]
Anthony De Julio
Six years. But you know how these Italians are, aj. You know, they'll wait till the last second. No, we don't know.
- [162:52]
Pat McAfee
Tony Romo, how about us? Not. Not. No, that was all me.
- [162:57]
AJ
I guess I never thought of him being Italian. I don't think I've ever heard you say that either.
- [163:01]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so a lot of people are telling me they. So I just had that in my inner thoughts.
- [163:04]
Anthony De Julio
I didn't. I would have assumed Italian. I didn't know he was like, Mexican. I didn't know he's Mexican.
- [163:08]
Pat McAfee
Honestly, Antonio is a.
- [163:10]
AJ
That's awesome.
- [163:11]
Pat McAfee
Listen, you live your life, Tony, but Antonio in the back pocket, it's an Italian name.
- [163:17]
Ed
Margarita, just.
- [163:20]
Pat McAfee
How about you saying Anthony is translated into Antonio in different languages? Obviously, we don't understand.
- [163:27]
Ed
Just in case anybody.
- [163:28]
Pat McAfee
We all understand languages as we do this whole thing. Tony was a surprise today. I will say.
- [163:32]
Anthony De Julio
Awesome.
- [163:33]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that was cool to hear him kind of talk about being a human. AJ it was nice to kind of how he looks at it. And I didn't think I knew how meticulous he was. I guess he would have had to have been if he was an undrafted guy who ends up going on to be an old. Probably for the Dallas Cowboys. You know, you forget about that because.
- [163:49]
AJ
He was a monster for a while. I was playing against him, believe me, when he was, you know, in his prime, he was awesome.
- [163:55]
Pat McAfee
What was so good about him? He talked about his instincts. He just didn't have the best arm. He had to work on his arm. His instincts. Is that a thing that makes timing.
- [164:01]
AJ
Get rid of the ball instantly? Like his. His accuracy? I mean, he was so good at throwing to Whit, you know, like trying to cover Whitten. When written's run like a, you know, a little eight yard stick route or something on you. It doesn't matter before, as Whitten is snapping his head around, you got great coverage. That ball is on his outside hit. Bam. And he's turning up to try to get extra yards. Like they just had a great connection. He was just good, man. Got rid of the ball very quickly. Yeah, he was.
- [164:22]
Pat McAfee
He was a stud golfer, too. Unbelievable.
- [164:25]
AJ
Obviously, he's like a pro go. Yeah, pretty much pro golfer.
- [164:28]
Pat McAfee
How is the American century out there in Tahoe? Who won it last year?
- [164:34]
AJ
It's a great question. I feel Marty Fish. Pavelski won for the first time. He's been like the final group a few times. Joe Pavelski, he came and he beat maybe Marty Fish was in the final group with him and Steph, I think.
- [164:47]
Pat McAfee
Wow, there's some good golf happening out there. Tony always in the convo. Whenever he's out there, it feels like people take it very seriously. I don't know if I'm anywhere near good enough at golf to. Once I get good at golf, I will try to earn an invite back to the American century champion. But you should not be out there.
- [165:06]
Darius J. Butler
If you're bad at golf, you're at a disadvantage. A lot of those guys, I'm assuming, because you look outside. Yeah, Tony. Tony's probably golfing right now.
- [165:14]
Pat McAfee
Antonio.
- [165:15]
Darius J. Butler
Well, Tony actually kind of call.
- [165:16]
Pat McAfee
A lot of them are retired out.
- [165:18]
Darius J. Butler
There in Cal every day. Yeah.
- [165:20]
Joe Montana
That was the first year Pavelski didn't play hockey.
- [165:23]
Pat McAfee
He won the tournament. Oh. So we got to change this. Let me figure this out. Let me figure this out. Th's next.
- [165:29]
AJ
The gonna win. Yeah. Th's awesome. He approaches it like a pro. Yeah. Thielen was there like on a day on like a Wednesday, pro damn day. He was there just working as putting. I'm like, oh, what time you teeing off in the afternoon group? He's like, no, I'm just here working on more putty in my short Game.
- [165:44]
Pat McAfee
Eight iron.
- [165:45]
AJ
Oh, God. Miz got that seven or eight iron figured out, though.
- [165:48]
Pat McAfee
Six might be what it was, huh?
- [165:51]
Darius J. Butler
Still got his Golf Channel? He had a Golf Channel, right?
- [165:53]
Ed
Yeah.
- [165:54]
Pat McAfee
Miz versus or something like that?
- [165:55]
Ty Schmidt
I think so, yeah.
- [165:56]
Ed
He still does.
- [165:57]
Pat McAfee
He loves golf. God, he loves golf.
- [166:00]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, he does.
- [166:00]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [166:01]
Ed
I hope he wins.
- [166:02]
AJ
He likes Beautiful swing.
- [166:03]
Pat McAfee
The Royal Rumble.
- [166:04]
AJ
Yeah.
- [166:04]
Pat McAfee
Is the Miz in the Royal Rumble?
- [166:06]
Anthony De Julio
Not for long.
- [166:07]
Ed
On ESPN Airways this morning. He hasn't declared yet, he said, but he's thinking about it.
- [166:12]
Pat McAfee
Not for long. You might win this thing. I don't think.
- [166:15]
Anthony De Julio
I don't think M. M is on a historic losing streak. I think he's lost for three straight years now. But maybe Saturday, the Riyadh Rumble.
- [166:26]
Pat McAfee
I saw him at the National Championship.
- [166:27]
Joe Montana
He might put him over Riyadh, to be honest. Maybe.
- [166:30]
Pat McAfee
Damn. Something because they could be big Real World fans over there.
- [166:33]
Ed
You know, every time I saw him come in first. Okay, he lasted for 48 minutes.
- [166:38]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he was the first entry. Yeah. Yeah. He almost won it, but he did.
- [166:41]
Ed
He's so good.
- [166:42]
Pat McAfee
He put up a good fight. M would be great in it.
- [166:44]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [166:44]
Pat McAfee
His life's one big Royal Rumble anyways.
- [166:46]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, we'll see. Seth. I saw Seth Rollins say he was a dude. I see him doing a lot of TV stuff. Is he doing wrestling?
- [166:53]
Anthony De Julio
I think he's hurt. I think he's going to be the OC for the. The Bills.
- [166:57]
Darius J. Butler
Did a real injury. Tony or is he at work again with hond? That Hond was okay. That was my introduction to him. That was my first time seeing him doing anything. And then obviously all the, you know, comments and stuff, hey, this is nothing. It's a piece of cake. Literally watching that, I'm like, he's the greatest athlete ever. Like, because I, you know, you got Tom Brady, Jordan, Serena, you got all these great, great athletes. And yeah, throwing the ball and window on the super bowl is great. When you're climbing and hanging off, doing pull ups. However many like this was unbelievable. And watching them like I was watching on my daughter, only one of my daughters would actually sit and watch. Because the rest of them, like, I'm not watching. I'm not watching this guy die. But I mean, this like climbing these shits, man, this is. This was un. Believable.
- [167:47]
Pat McAfee
It was incredible. Live television. That's why whenever I start talking about it, I'm trying to talk to people that also watched it live. Because I think if you obviously know the outcome, it's gonna be hard to suspend belief. But obviously Whenever you watch the free solo documentary, you assume he's not gonna die in that one. So you watch it knowing that he probably survived. Just watching 91 minutes straight, basically, of a guy potentially dying is an insane experience. Like it was an actual insane experience as it's actually taken place. And he could have taken a couple easier routes. Like to your point about him, whenever he was doing the pull ups and stuff, there was like a couple decisions he made, like for entertainment purposes. He could have went around the obstacles, like, look at all this on the side there. He could have clearly done whatever he was doing for the rest of the time to get up there and say he's like, I gotta conquer this thing. Actually let me fucking hang upside down and kind of go in this entirety. Just so casual, so calm, so cool. And then obviously near the top, go ahead, just take a load off and take it in, pal. Go ahead and lock your leg up around this thing. We assume this building is strong enough to be able to hold you. Obviously it holds itself up, so everything's okay. But yeah, it was unbelievable. Greatest athlete of all time. I kind of left. I didn't even like think of that. I just thought like, unicorn of a human. But yeah, I guess you got to categorize him as an athlete.
- [169:02]
Ed
I saw the climbing community said, like, him doing El Capita Capitan is the greatest feat any athlete can ever do in their entire lives. And then watching this, I was like, this is, this is cake. This is a cakewalker. Unless he's climbing a glass building with no ledges, he's gonna climb it no problem.
- [169:20]
Pat McAfee
His workouts to his gym, he saw he's got like the little fingy things.
- [169:25]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [169:25]
Pat McAfee
Where it dangles from. So even his muscles and his fingers. And now granted, every moment he spends training is actual life or death.
- [169:32]
Darius J. Butler
Legit.
- [169:33]
Pat McAfee
Like, has to be there.
- [169:34]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [169:35]
Darius J. Butler
And that's the thing. I compare great athletes. Like, the greatest athletes perform under the most pressure. Like this. Like it's death. Like one wrong step, one missed grab. And you hear him up there, you know, he's like, oh, I'm kind of tired. Like, I'm kind of winded. Like, it's not like you can call it a fight. He took breaks, but like hour and a half. You climbing this shit like that, that shit was unbelievable. A lot of people, you know, giving shit to the commentary. That's kind of an impossible thing to commentate. I think I. I would prefer to just watch and just listen to him. Anything he was saying, seeing him interact with the people in the Windows waving at him. My daughter's like, stop fucking waves. I'm waving at him. You don't want to wave back and die.
- [170:15]
Pat McAfee
How about him wanting a high five instead? Hey, what's up? Just so, like, chill, I guess. Yeah, like a flow state. I have no idea.
- [170:22]
Darius J. Butler
Crazy.
- [170:22]
Pat McAfee
Feels like he just constantly lives in that. Even if. If he's next to death. But him just being like these kids these days with their phones, like cracking jokes. Him choosing to do that climb. Him getting up there at the top, like kind of stretching and Seth saying, like, can you step back, man? Or whatever. He's like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got just kind of turns around the wind. All right. And then he had to jump off. There was a. To get to one of the parts at the top, he had to run up it. It was like a. Oh, what are those things called? Like a crane of some sorts. He had to run up a crane and then he had to jump off, crane onto something, and there was like a little gap and like the jump drew like a little reaction from there. Like, there was a couple times the crowd would like, react or like clap for him when he did something cool. It was a cool experience, man. Climb or die. Yeah. That is.
- [171:09]
Ed
He did like a. A rock situation. Skyscraper where he jumped from the crane to the building.
- [171:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was like this far.
- [171:16]
Darius J. Butler
Wait, who did it?
- [171:16]
Ed
The Rock.
- [171:17]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, well, yeah, we're not comparing, you know, Ethan Hunt. It's different.
- [171:23]
Ty Schmidt
Well, the rock. The Rock didn't actually do that.
- [171:25]
Ed
No, he did.
- [171:26]
Ty Schmidt
TC actually did run around the Burj Khalifa, you know, so let's not. I mean, I love Dewey, but he ain't tc. If there's one person who's close to Alex Honnold, it's tc.
- [171:37]
Ed
Bet you TC could do that.
- [171:38]
Pat McAfee
TC has the photo from the top.
- [171:40]
Ty Schmidt
Of the burge with no just sitting there.
- [171:43]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [171:43]
Pat McAfee
Photo.
- [171:43]
Darius J. Butler
He's flown on planes and hung off. Yeah, he's of that ilk.
- [171:48]
Ty Schmidt
He is of that ilk.
- [171:49]
Anthony De Julio
Jump from plane to plane.
- [171:50]
Pat McAfee
What do you think his home gym looks like? He's got a bunch of those probably.
- [171:53]
Ed
Oh, yeah, the earth is.
- [171:55]
Ty Schmidt
He usually just heads down to the Hollywood sign, though, and just scales that thing, climbs to the top and then usually bass jumps off.
- [172:02]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [172:02]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, be back home.
- [172:03]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [172:04]
Ty Schmidt
That's kind of just a freaking Tuesday.
- [172:05]
AJ
This one here.
- [172:06]
Darius J. Butler
How do you get up there, Ty?
- [172:07]
Ty Schmidt
He climbed up. Up there.
- [172:10]
Anthony De Julio
No shoes.
- [172:10]
Ed
No shoes.
- [172:11]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [172:11]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah. And he didn't do it with a bunch of around. He just did it for fun.
- [172:15]
Pat McAfee
That's right.
- [172:15]
Darius J. Butler
For lovely game.
- [172:17]
Pat McAfee
That's right.
- [172:18]
AJ
Who took the picture?
- [172:20]
Pat McAfee
Well, maybe somebody dropped him up a satellite.
- [172:23]
Anthony De Julio
No, he's got a selfie stick.
- [172:24]
Ty Schmidt
Got a helicopter up there. And then he jumped onto the bottom of it, crawled into the cockpit and took that helicopter back to the. Wherever they had to.
- [172:31]
Ed
Actually, I think I heard that. The air was too thin.
- [172:34]
Joe Montana
The helicopter came. Couldn't make it up there.
- [172:35]
Ed
It was a fighter jet that he had to jump on.
- [172:37]
Pat McAfee
Time it up.
- [172:38]
Ty Schmidt
Could be too. An F14.
- [172:39]
Anthony De Julio
Possible.
- [172:40]
Darius J. Butler
Y.
- [172:41]
Ty Schmidt
Certainly possible.
- [172:42]
Pat McAfee
All right, I think we're done here, don't you?
- [172:46]
Ed
I don't know.
- [172:47]
Darius J. Butler
Get good.
- [172:48]
Pat McAfee
I think so. The rumble really brought us into a great conversation. Yeah. Is Alex hon in the Rumble?
- [172:54]
Anthony De Julio
I hope.
- [172:55]
AJ
Should be.
- [172:56]
Pat McAfee
They need something cool on his grip strength.
- [172:58]
Ed
You're right. You're doing it right now.
- [173:00]
Pat McAfee
On the rope.
- [173:00]
Darius J. Butler
Squeeze.
- [173:01]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [173:02]
AJ
Never getting him off of there.
- [173:03]
Pat McAfee
Just a handshake. Just. You want to do a handshake? Cool. Good luck.
- [173:08]
Darius J. Butler
Bye.
- [173:08]
Pat McAfee
Gone. That's it right there. Yeah, like bam. Bam.
- [173:12]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [173:12]
AJ
Yep.
- [173:14]
Anthony De Julio
Arnold's hand lock.
- [173:16]
Pat McAfee
Oh, right.
- [173:18]
Ed
Netflix ties.
- [173:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but I think it's on.
- [173:21]
Ty Schmidt
It's on espn.
- [173:22]
Ed
Yeah, but you know, but the business is.
- [173:24]
Pat McAfee
Seth was there.
- [173:25]
Ty Schmidt
He shouldn't though, cuz Seth Freaking's been waiting to stomp his brains out since he was in, you know, watching him. He's just waiting.
- [173:33]
Pat McAfee
Is Seth Freaking in?
- [173:35]
Ty Schmidt
The architect of destruction. Yeah, he'll be there.
- [173:38]
Pat McAfee
Are you sure there?
- [173:39]
Ty Schmidt
I'm not. But it's the Rumble, baby. You expect the unexpected.
- [173:43]
Pat McAfee
Is that your favorite thing about the Rumble?
- [173:45]
Ty Schmidt
To expect the unexpected? Yeah. You know, cuz I'm. I'm expecting Kurt Angle to come out at 30.
- [173:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [173:52]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [173:56]
Ed
Would that be heel or.
- [173:59]
Pat McAfee
Baby? I don't know. I don't know. That would be. We learn a lot.
- [174:03]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, we would.
- [174:04]
Pat McAfee
Right there in real time. Could you imagine that? Hits American flag, comes up full on. Oh, what?
- [174:11]
Ty Schmidt
He tears ass down to the ring and angle slams turkey. Alla turkey.
- [174:15]
Pat McAfee
I think he does 13 of them.
- [174:17]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [174:18]
Anthony De Julio
For the.
- [174:18]
Ty Schmidt
For the column.
- [174:21]
Pat McAfee
Ankle lock right into it. Yeah, that would be awesome.
- [174:25]
Ty Schmidt
That's what I'm hoping.
- [174:26]
Pat McAfee
And then obviously. Did you say for the. Obviously turkey overturns. That breaks through.
- [174:31]
Darius J. Butler
I don't know.
- [174:32]
Pat McAfee
Throws turn out, you know, the whole thing. Yeah.
- [174:36]
Ed
What time?
- [174:37]
Anthony De Julio
2.
- [174:39]
Ed
Anything is possible on Espen.
- [174:41]
AJ
Yeah. Jesse, the body might come out.
- [174:43]
Pat McAfee
I think it is on espn.
- [174:44]
Darius J. Butler
I saw Rick Flair.
- [174:45]
Anthony De Julio
Which one?
- [174:46]
Ed
Yeah, which one do I have to sign up for?
- [174:47]
Pat McAfee
Car shield? What's that?
- [174:49]
Ed
Which one do we have to try to sign up for?
- [174:50]
Ty Schmidt
To watch this ESPN Ultimate.
- [174:53]
Pat McAfee
Okay, I've had it. The Paramount thing with UFC was interesting for me. I had not dabbled much over there. I got in there through prime and then when I got there, then there was a prelim show, but the prelim show was over. But it was still the first. Like I had to get through it a couple different times to figure it out. Then there was some freezing. I think anytime new place has something to stream something, there's just like immediate learning lessons, I think. But Paramount has spent a lot of money on all this shit, so I'd assume that they would like it to get fixed. A lot of commercials people are upset about, that's because you're not really paying for the pay per view. Right. So it's more like a commercial model.
- [175:30]
Ed
Other than that stuff though, I saw people loved like the coverage aspect of Paramount.
- [175:35]
Pat McAfee
Well, then there's also recaps available. All the fights are available right now, I think on Paramount. Like the way they're breaking it down and clipping it basically for people to watch, I think is good. Paramount seemingly moving a lot of money into a lot of different spaces, including sports and UFC going over there and doing big numbers, which I assume is going to happen, will only lend itself to more. And now you got NFL another place to potentially land a primetime game.
- [175:59]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, like for you guys, you guys went prime to Paramount plus. Like, I bought Paramount plus originally through Apple.
- [176:05]
Ty Schmidt
Me too.
- [176:06]
Anthony De Julio
So I went to Apple and then went to Paramount Plus.
- [176:09]
Pat McAfee
What are you all boy?
- [176:10]
Anthony De Julio
They didn't have the live. They don't have live stuff like the UFC on the Paramount plus app through Apple. So then I had to figure that out, then go download the Paramount plus app, then get. But then. But then your email and password for your Apple doesn't work for your Paramount plus. Then you have to reset password.
- [176:29]
Pat McAfee
Like there's a lot of.
- [176:31]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I.
- [176:32]
Pat McAfee
That's tough to see.
- [176:33]
Ty Schmidt
I was getting so pissed, cuz usually that stuff's fairly easy. And I clicked on the same thing about a thousand times. They can. Like, one of these times it's just gonna like update and I'll be in it. No, it just kept sending me to, you know, UFC 323 six weeks ago, and I said, yeah, I get it. I don't want to watch this. I want to watch the live one. And then eventually get out of the app. You get into Paramount plus, you download it in it, and it worked fine, but it took me about 30 minutes.
- [176:59]
Anthony De Julio
Took some time.
- [177:00]
Pat McAfee
Oh, that's a rough start.
- [177:01]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, I got to the point where I was like, you know what? Just on principle, I'm never watching a UFC event event again, ever.
- [177:07]
Pat McAfee
First impressions are tough to overcome.
- [177:08]
Ty Schmidt
But then, you know, it worked. And I didn't have any, like, Internet issues, any glitching like it. Once I actually got in there, like, it was perfect.
- [177:17]
Pat McAfee
Remember, Netflix had issues with the Jake Paul, Mike Tyson stuff. Anytime, I assume anytime somebody ventures into the live sports or a live thing, there's a lot to learn, you know, because places crash. You know, places crash. Back ends can't handle amount of action or track, especially with what sports can bring. It's a good problem to have, but first impressions are tough for people. Yeah. You know, there's some people that will hold that against Paramount forever.
- [177:40]
Anthony De Julio
Yes.
- [177:41]
Darius J. Butler
Zufa. Good. Anybody check the sweet science out on Zufa?
- [177:44]
Pat McAfee
Bruce watched, I believe, the entirety of it all. Bruce is going to become a full on Zufa fan because we do believe with the ages of the fighters and what they're projecting to do, you can kind of follow their story. This is kind of the beginning of a lot of stories in boxing, right?
- [177:58]
AJ
Yeah.
- [177:58]
Pat McAfee
A. I'm a zoo for Holic. Kalen Walsh was on the. He was the headliner of the main card.
- [178:04]
Tony Romo
He's an Irish lad from.
- [178:05]
Pat McAfee
From County Cork. He handled business no problem. Not a ton of upsets or like real fireworks outside of this one guy, Hammer Hands, who I think was from.
- [178:15]
Tony Romo
North Jersey, who was just like laying it out.
- [178:17]
Pat McAfee
And what did he do? What did Hammer Hands do? He had a nice flurry to end.
- [178:21]
Tony Romo
The match, and then immediately afterwards he was like, dana, I need more money. Feed my kids.
- [178:26]
Pat McAfee
So. So we got those issues over there. So. Yeah. Hey, that was quick. Hey, that was quick. That's first fight.
- [178:31]
Ty Schmidt
Wow.
- [178:31]
Pat McAfee
That's first fight.
- [178:32]
Anthony De Julio
I did not see that coming.
- [178:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that was first fight.
- [178:35]
Anthony De Julio
Okay.
- [178:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because me and Bruce were talking about. Because Bruce is like. Because it is something we should follow because they're going to try to create boxing stars is kind of what they're trying to do. They're kind of trying to create their own, promote their own. You know, they'll bring in big stars, but they have their. They want their own title system, their own point system. They kind of want to have a monitored boxing, and they're all fans of boxing, so they feel like they're kind of doing it all. But yeah, I feel like you can. You can maybe pick a fighter here, you know, and Hammer Hands was going to be the guy I was going to pick. And then Bruce sends A follow up. And he's like, oh, yeah. Also immediately after the fight, he says.
- [179:08]
Tony Romo
I think he might be fighting this Friday as well. They're just going to run back.
- [179:12]
Anthony De Julio
Oh, he has to.
- [179:13]
Ed
I like that.
- [179:13]
Pat McAfee
Hammer Hands dude. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This was going to be my guy. That's his great name and all this stuff. Stuff. And I'm like, are we ever going to see him again? You know, because of what he just did with, you know, like, this is the gift horse thing.
- [179:23]
Darius J. Butler
Yes, that's.
- [179:24]
Pat McAfee
This is the. The.
- [179:25]
Anthony De Julio
They're gonna feed him to the wolves.
- [179:27]
Pat McAfee
What do you mean? Hammer Hands is ready for it. Hammer Hands is ready.
- [179:30]
Darius J. Butler
Is his head ready for.
- [179:31]
Pat McAfee
Who's he fighting? I. I'm learning this in real time. Tyson Fury is Hammerhands, our guy. Who's Kaylin, you said, out of County Cork? Is. Yeah, Caleb.
- [179:39]
Tony Romo
Caleb Walsh out of County Cork. He's kind of like the. The big name. They announced a name that I had not heard and was tricky to pronounce.
- [179:47]
Pat McAfee
For, for the panel. So he'll be joining the card.
- [179:50]
AJ
But that.
- [179:50]
Pat McAfee
That's a big thing. Bringing in fighters, big names to kind of get behind is going to be key. It kind of felt like a soft launch. Like, hey, the restaurant's open. But it's like a stress test. That's. That's what Zufa Boxing 01 felt like a bit because of where it was broadcasted from, how was broadcasted from, and the way they went about it.
- [180:09]
Anthony De Julio
Yes.
- [180:09]
Pat McAfee
It was like, hey, can we, like, proof of concept? Like, can we pull this off at the UFC apex?
- [180:14]
Tony Romo
And I. I think they did.
- [180:16]
Pat McAfee
The fights were. Were pretty good. What does that mean?
- [180:19]
Tony Romo
Like, remember Times Square?
- [180:22]
Pat McAfee
Oh, my God, those were so bad. Do you remember that?
- [180:26]
Ed
Historically, low amount of punches thrown for every single fight.
- [180:30]
Pat McAfee
Tom and Jerry Mouse. Tom and Jerry.
- [180:31]
Tony Romo
Action.
- [180:32]
Pat McAfee
Hey, Pat, do you want to get into the boxing road? Sounds like something you know, that you might be interested in. Here's some storylines, here's this. Here's where business is potentially going. We'll be able to have access to be able to do this. Yeah, I respect it, and I virtual box all the time. I respect it all. I'm in there knocking out, you know, Ugly Joe and stuff. You know, I got it all. So I was, like, real excited to go there. And then literally, we. We get into it and it's just like the worst boxing in the history of boxing, and it's in the middle of Times Square, and it's like, I enjoyed the environment, I enjoyed like the, the vibes maybe, you know, like the vibes of boxing were awesome. It felt like it was a big event. You know there was people there. There's big seats, big chairs. And then in the, in the, in the ring it's like oh, they can kind of decide what they want to do in there. It's kind of. We're kind of banking it on that. It was terrible. And then we had the next day too, right?
- [181:20]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [181:21]
Pat McAfee
Booker T. With us though. I mean that was that was unbelievable.
- [181:24]
Ed
We absolutely dominated the pre show.
- [181:25]
Pat McAfee
Booker T. Needs to be on more TVs that needs to happen. He was phenomenal for two straight days getting to hang out with him. I don't know if we're going to be doing a bunch of boxing but I will follow along with the Zoofaholics.
- [181:39]
Tony Romo
As long as they're throwing hands then.
- [181:41]
Pat McAfee
I will be there. But they should sign Booker T. And.
- [181:44]
Tony Romo
Have him be the fight analyst.
- [181:46]
Pat McAfee
Who was doing the commentary?
- [181:47]
Tony Romo
I think it was Joe Tess on the play by play who's good and solid and then Max Kellerman was doing.
- [181:52]
Pat McAfee
The the color Joe Test.
- [181:55]
AJ
Roy with him. Roy Jones Jr. With him as well.
- [181:58]
Tony Romo
I don't believe so.
- [181:59]
Pat McAfee
I think it was some somebody else.
- [182:00]
Darius J. Butler
Is Molly here?
- [182:01]
Pat McAfee
Molly was doing panel pre show panel. The the hosting for the pre and post. Who all who else was on there?
- [182:07]
Tony Romo
Shout out I didn't see I didn't see much of the much of the panel.
- [182:10]
Pat McAfee
Yukon legend Shout out Oh yeah. What's going on here?
- [182:14]
Darius J. Butler
Coach Candle sitting it over Jason. What's his name Coach Jason Kendall.
- [182:21]
Pat McAfee
Who's he coach? What's he gonna do Yukon.
- [182:23]
Darius J. Butler
He's our new coach going to take us to the promotion this land basy. Did you see what Kirk NY did in Indiana Bloomington?
- [182:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Has he went and seen the ghost yet?
- [182:33]
Darius J. Butler
Nah, ghost ain't with him.
- [182:35]
Pat McAfee
Who's the ghost?
- [182:37]
Darius J. Butler
That was Jim Morris.
- [182:38]
Ed
Mara went and saw the ghost and.
- [182:39]
Joe Montana
They started playing a lot better.
- [182:40]
Pat McAfee
Oh yeah. The haunted house more.
- [182:42]
Darius J. Butler
All right Mar.
- [182:43]
Joe Montana
Yeah she saw the ghost and then he he left so well he did.
- [182:48]
Pat McAfee
So well up there. He goes to Colorado State. He earned his way out up there.
- [182:52]
Ed
You toss a Miami helmet up there.
- [182:54]
Pat McAfee
But jeez just went to the Natty.
- [182:57]
Ed
You went to Miami?
- [182:59]
Darius J. Butler
No hor.
- [182:59]
Ed
Oh okay.
- [183:00]
Darius J. Butler
Right here.
- [183:00]
Pat McAfee
So does make sense independent school. Nobody talks about that. They talk about Notre Dame. Nobody. I think Gumby just got buried. I missed it but I I Tony.
- [183:10]
Ed
Plays for the Steelers too. No, I play for Topka America.
- [183:16]
Pat McAfee
Hell yeah. Yep.
- [183:19]
Joe Montana
You thought your 2k and helmet was there.
- [183:21]
Pat McAfee
I know you did.
- [183:23]
Ed
No, I actually earlier in the show saw that I was like, should I move Duke up here? And I said no, Mavs. Mavs, where I rest.
- [183:30]
Pat McAfee
Oh, the Dukes. I mean that's unbelievable. This making an appearance up here though is certainly a fascinating thing because we will have to talk about. They would love for the situation with Notre Dame happened with them, right?
- [183:42]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, I think they actually are.
- [183:45]
Pat McAfee
They would love that if they didn't.
- [183:46]
AJ
Carve out their own little agreement.
- [183:47]
Darius J. Butler
Different landscape now.
- [183:49]
Pat McAfee
If Yukon was ranked in the top.
- [183:50]
Ed
12, that'd be in.
- [183:52]
Pat McAfee
Would they get a chance to be in automatic because of the Notre Dame rule as an independent school, it better be good news.
- [184:00]
AJ
They go defeated, would they be in the top 12?
- [184:02]
Pat McAfee
It's a thought exercise.
- [184:03]
Joe Montana
We don't even have to entertain.
- [184:04]
Pat McAfee
Shut up, Nick. Okay. We don't know.
- [184:06]
Darius J. Butler
We do know the next Joe Joey Fadano is who?
- [184:13]
Anthony De Julio
You don't even know the name of your quarterback.
- [184:14]
Ty Schmidt
Joey.
- [184:17]
Pat McAfee
You talk about Joey Fernando. Yeah, I understand Joey. Jason Candle here, the new head coach. You guys got a tough schedule coming up. You got that first tough coach and then you got Maryland there. Then you got Syracuse UMass UNC James Madison. Oh, Old Dominion. Could see them in the top 12. Will they get to know Notre Dame clause as an independent school? AJ what's your vote right now? If you're in the room where it happened?
- [184:42]
Darius J. Butler
I'd say if.
- [184:42]
AJ
If Yukon goes undefeated, we're putting them in the playoffs.
- [184:45]
Darius J. Butler
Right. Thank you. Our home schedule, I mean.
- [184:49]
AJ
Yeah.
- [184:50]
Pat McAfee
Oh, we got more games. I didn't know if you guys were able to.
- [184:52]
AJ
You just need to know if we take care of business that we got a chance.
- [184:55]
Ed
You told me Jason K's had a first round the last three years.
- [184:59]
Darius J. Butler
So disrespectful.
- [185:00]
Pat McAfee
I didn't know. I didn't know if you guys can fill a full schedule. I didn't know. I had no idea.
- [185:04]
Anthony De Julio
Come on.
- [185:05]
AJ
Sometimes it's hard to book six games.
- [185:07]
Pat McAfee
Sometimes. I didn't know if that was the full thing right there. You know that's lit.
- [185:09]
Darius J. Butler
Nikol find that Covid year.
- [185:12]
Pat McAfee
Where'd he go?
- [185:13]
Ty Schmidt
He's.
- [185:14]
Darius J. Butler
What you mean? He's preparing for the draft now.
- [185:16]
Pat McAfee
Oh, okay. He's going.
- [185:17]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, he thought. He's got. He came.
- [185:18]
Ed
He dominated East West.
- [185:20]
Darius J. Butler
He elevated from Wisconsin. He came to us. Now he's in going to NFL.
- [185:24]
Pat McAfee
Indiana's odds on favorite to win the Natty next year. Just because everybody believes in Kurt Signetti.
- [185:28]
Ed
They were. I don't know if it's changed R.
- [185:31]
Pat McAfee
Smith goes to Ohio State. That might.
- [185:34]
AJ
Where's Albie going?
- [185:34]
Ed
They are.
- [185:35]
AJ
Where's Alby?
- [185:36]
Ed
So Georgia Tech on draft kings.
- [185:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [185:39]
Ed
On draftkings There are four teams at +700. IU, Texas, Ohio State and Notre Dame.
- [185:46]
Pat McAfee
And the Mensa thing that just happened down in Duke, he is now going to Miami.
- [185:51]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [185:51]
Pat McAfee
What took place there?
- [185:53]
Ed
So he had signed a contract with Duke to return the year and then he decided, you know, he didn't want to do that anymore. So then Duke sued him for that. For trying to leave and going into.
- [186:05]
Pat McAfee
The breach of portal.
- [186:06]
Ed
Yeah. Breach of contract, if you will. And then it went to the courts and then they settled today for an unknown amount. And now he will be going to be the quarterback at Miami.
- [186:16]
Pat McAfee
So Miami gets Duke's quarterback. Duke just won the acc. Miami just made it to a national championship. And now Duke's quarterbacks heading down to South Florida and I believe also their wide receiver. Right. Duke's wide receiver is also heading down to Miami within the acc. That's obviously a cold world. That's cold game for Duke. They try to soon keep them there.
- [186:39]
Ed
Feels like they. They used a good bit of their 20 million that they got from making it to the national championship to, you know, pay a couple Duke guys.
- [186:48]
Anthony De Julio
Smart.
- [186:48]
Joe Montana
Thank you for your service.
- [186:49]
Pat McAfee
Manny Diaz.
- [186:50]
Joe Montana
We'll never forget at you young money.
- [186:52]
Darius J. Butler
Figure it out.
- [186:54]
Pat McAfee
Is he great Mena? He will be.
- [186:56]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, he's good.
- [186:57]
Pat McAfee
He can move too.
- [186:59]
Darius J. Butler
4000 last year. Got weapons out there on the outside. We did lose Miami did lose JoJo Trader to NC State and they have a dog at quarterback as well. Another acc. M ACC Might bring it next year.
- [187:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yep. Was that Ty T. What are you so disgusted for? Ty almost puked over there.
- [187:18]
Ed
They brought it this year.
- [187:19]
Darius J. Butler
They did.
- [187:19]
Ty Schmidt
They did bring it this year, but it just wasn't quite good enough, was it? Because there's a conference that's predominantly in the Midwest of the United States of America that kinda is going to be running college football for the foreseeable future. And that was before Rie Smith said, you know what? Yeah, I'm gonna be the OC at Ohio State.
- [187:37]
Pat McAfee
It does feel like it's the Big Ten's time, doesn't it? Does Nick Saban even said it?
- [187:42]
AJ
Yep.
- [187:43]
Pat McAfee
Nick Saban. Acknowledge. AJ I know you guys can feel it at Ohio State because you've kind of always had it, but it does feel like more and more Big Ten schools are going to be able to be able to compete. And I think that's because the business and the money behind it does provide a lot of opportunity. Like Iowa always be able to buy somebody. That's good.
- [188:01]
Anthony De Julio
That's right.
- [188:02]
Ty Schmidt
That's unfortunate because Iowa kind of. I was never going to do that. They're going to win nine games.
- [188:06]
Pat McAfee
Well, you brought in quarterbacks multiple times. You got the D2. Hosman, you came in.
- [188:11]
Ed
But he was the bell of the ball. He was east west bowl.
- [188:14]
Ty Schmidt
He was. Iowa guys are really showing out and he's gonna be good in the NFL.
- [188:19]
Pat McAfee
Definitely had to pay Cooper the jean.
- [188:22]
Ty Schmidt
No, no. See, guys like that who come from small town Rum Dum Iowa, like, they, they want to go to Iowa, but it's like when we have these opportunities in the transfer portal, you're gonna see Iowa grabbing guys from Old Dominion, I believe. Tight end from Yukon coming to Iowa, you know, James Madison. We're gonna get those kind of guys.
- [188:38]
Pat McAfee
That won a national championship for coaches know.
- [188:42]
Ty Schmidt
Well, he, he didn't go with Coach Signetti to Indiana.
- [188:45]
Pat McAfee
He.
- [188:45]
Ty Schmidt
He stayed at jmu. So they're grabbing. They're grabbing guys like that, you know, they're not really.
- [188:50]
Anthony De Julio
They're.
- [188:51]
Ty Schmidt
They're not really big game hunting per say, you know, so they're getting the right boys.
- [188:57]
Pat McAfee
What was that?
- [188:57]
Ty Schmidt
We like our guys.
- [188:58]
Pat McAfee
What was t. That was rude of Ty to say that we got the.
- [189:02]
AJ
Others from JMU not going big game hunting, as he said. That's well said.
- [189:07]
Pat McAfee
Good luck. We hope the Big Ten continues its dominance. But I'll tell you what, Oregon's going.
- [189:11]
Ty Schmidt
To be really good next year.
- [189:12]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Always.
- [189:14]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. But I think next year might be Dan Lanning's kind of.
- [189:18]
Ed
Everyone's coming his time.
- [189:20]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [189:20]
AJ
Has to be.
- [189:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. The boys are making a lot of decisions, kind of come back and try to run the table together and Dan Lenning be able to utilize that. And obviously they've had a lot of success very quickly in the Big Ten. Can they continue at Big Ten country Right now in the middle of quite a snow and cold storm. They're saying a cold front's coming.
- [189:36]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [189:36]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [189:37]
AJ
Are kids ever going back to school? Is school canceled for you guys around there?
- [189:40]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So yesterday, I believe there's a little school thing near here for preschool, toddler stuff. They were shut down yesterday. I think they were back open today. So I don't know what is.
- [189:51]
Ed
I know our school district daycare has opened back up, but I know the school district still closed.
- [189:55]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [189:56]
Ty Schmidt
HSE has canceled.
- [189:58]
Anthony De Julio
Yes.
- [189:58]
Ty Schmidt
Yesterday and today as well.
- [189:59]
Pat McAfee
And then the cold front's Coming. They're saying negative seven or something like that.
- [190:02]
Ed
Yeah, they ain't good for buses. Buses don't respond well.
- [190:05]
Ty Schmidt
And I guess the buses were snowed in. That is why they had school.
- [190:09]
Pat McAfee
Most snowfall in one day. Since when do we remember the year? 1970? Something I thought. No, was it? Yeah, it was a total, it was a total snow match. Something from 2021 or something like that or I forget like more recent. But then single day fall was something like wicked back. Like way way back. Because we had like a 1978. Yeah. 11 point something inches in one day.
- [190:30]
Darius J. Butler
Look crazy. It was crazy in the sky. Like just look like as far as you can see, just white like it was, it was crazy. A lot of people thought I was flying over Greenland.
- [190:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You had a good video. Were you, Were you thinking. Is that where you were? You were missing yesterday? Maybe snowed out, maybe doing a little negotiations up there coming back?
- [190:46]
Darius J. Butler
No, but it looked, it looked insane. And I've seen seeing all the reports and all the not being here was, was something but it was crazy, man.
- [190:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [190:55]
Darius J. Butler
I'm glad you guys made it in safely yesterday too.
- [190:58]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I mean shite. Oh shite. They cleaned them up though today. I think they did a pretty good job out here today. I don't know about everywhere but yeah, the roads were bad. I, you know, I think everywhere the roads are bad though. I don't know, maybe up in the, in the Rockies where there's a bunch of snow. I don't know how they handle it. Or up there in New England, in Pittsburgh. I don't think it was ever like handled properly. Like oh, there was always like some sort of complaint about why are they mad? Who's that?
- [191:25]
Ed
The mayor came out yesterday and said we have 90 salt and plow trucks, 37 of them broke yesterday. So they're down a third of their third of their units.
- [191:34]
Pat McAfee
Well it's not only that too. Sometimes it's a reactive operation as opposed to a forward thinking operation or forecasting operation. Operation. Cuz they only have a certain amount of salt that they've purchased going into the snow season. So they have to project how much salt they can use and everything like that throughout and then how much of the season is left. So I don't think anybody's ever really figured it out and they certainly didn't hear how about over there? Not right. Not good.
- [191:57]
AJ
Roads are okay now but yeah, the last couple days they were not.
- [192:00]
Pat McAfee
I don't know if it's ever good. You know, I, I, I genuinely don't know. And then I think back to when I was a kid. Like, it feels like they used to like pep of the salt on the road before the storm.
- [192:09]
Ty Schmidt
A thousand percent.
- [192:11]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, they used to pepper it. But then I assume they missed so many times and snow didn't come that they viewed it as a massive amount of money just getting kind of thrown away. So maybe they don't do it now because of that. Like, because we've all had situations where they're like, something's coming, something's coming, and then nothing comes. Which I guess maybe I thought about this particular one. This has certainly not been that at all. This has been a pretty wild one. Winter storm here. This has been crazy. You look at the stuff coming out of like south of Indiana. Oh, yeah.
- [192:38]
Anthony De Julio
And north.
- [192:39]
AJ
No power whatever. All the ice storm. Like the ice hanging on the trees, bringing them down, like that's. I'm glad we didn't get that. We just got massive amounts of snow and really cold.
- [192:48]
Pat McAfee
Really cold. Yeah. You and your side by side out there. Getting after it was good for the community. Did you go do the Neighbors Driveway like 50 times?
- [192:55]
AJ
Yeah, I mean, I was out there so many, it didn't matter. As I'm, you know, I try to wait till the snow stops, but the snow went on for 24 straight hours. So I'm just.
- [193:02]
Tony Romo
I plowed.
- [193:03]
AJ
I come back. I do do my in laws house. I come back and my. My driver looks like I'd never even plowed.
- [193:07]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah.
- [193:08]
AJ
Continue to go over and over.
- [193:10]
Ed
Yeah, you had fun. You had fun, dude, I loved it.
- [193:12]
AJ
Yeah, I got it.
- [193:13]
Tony Romo
Yeah, I got it in September.
- [193:14]
AJ
See, I need to. Need to put it to use.
- [193:15]
Pat McAfee
All the snow blowers were out in the neighborhood. All of them. Oh, we got this for this reason right here. This is it. We're the heroes. And they look awesome. And then the snowplow comes. Comes from the street and it just blocks the entire front of the thing. Builds a fort up.
- [193:31]
Anthony De Julio
Oh, yeah.
- [193:31]
Pat McAfee
Front of the whole thing.
- [193:32]
Anthony De Julio
Snowbank.
- [193:33]
Pat McAfee
Oh, man, I see so many videos coming of people shoveling and then just the snowbank. Boom, right back in there. It's like that's. That's hard road, but that's a. Road's gonna stay clear as well. Here's AJ out there doing it for the community, which we're incredibly grateful for. Big thumbs up. Has a stick probably, I assume in a side by side. Definitely fishtailing that thing a little bit around as he's pl. Is that accurate, aj?
- [193:55]
AJ
Oh, yeah. I took it all over the main roads. And yeah, I was, I almost took out eight to 10 mailboxes. My daughter was riding shotgun because I let her. She wanted to try a little bit. Yeah, it was. I was just teaching her how to, you know, hey, don't panic when you start fish tailing. You got to just slowly just steer into it. Don't. Don't jam the brakes, you know, I learned that from my grandpa.
- [194:11]
Pat McAfee
How old?
- [194:13]
AJ
Oh, my daughter, she's 15. So like she needs to learn. She's learned how to drive.
- [194:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. She's about to get in. Into it for real. That's a good thing, putting it in neutral whenever you're coming to a stop, obviously, because even whenever you just have it in drive, there's a little bit of power going to your wheels. We don't need any power going into wheels, especially if there's ice there. Let's go ahead and drop it in there. You try to remember all those things as you're driving in the snow out here. I have no idea how Pittsburgh worked. All those hills, Indiana, like right now, it's like, it's not that hill.
- [194:35]
Ed
No.
- [194:35]
Pat McAfee
So it's not that bad, the hills where people.
- [194:40]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah, I don't, I don't.
- [194:41]
AJ
The ice under the snow.
- [194:42]
Darius J. Butler
People just have regular cars in a place like this.
- [194:45]
Ty Schmidt
Like sedans throw sandbags in a trunk.
- [194:49]
Darius J. Butler
So, like you got four wheel drive. Yeah. Got to have.
- [194:53]
Pat McAfee
Got to at least have all wheel, four wheel drive, whatever it is.
- [194:56]
Darius J. Butler
And they're the fastest drivers on the road every time.
- [194:59]
Pat McAfee
The little ones.
- [194:59]
Darius J. Butler
Yeah. All right, I'll see you in about 10 minutes.
- [195:03]
Pat McAfee
And there's a trip. Yeah. It's crazy, the devastation that could take place. Everybody be safe out there. Let's stay warm. It's cold world.
- [195:12]
Darius J. Butler
Any new gimmicks? Anybody try any new gimmicks? I saw flamethrowers.
- [195:15]
Pat McAfee
I love flamethrowers.
- [195:16]
Darius J. Butler
I saw the tarp. But you said you're not going to try.
- [195:19]
Pat McAfee
That tarp was brilliant. Now the issue would be the tarp would have been frozen to the thing like that.
- [195:24]
Ty Schmidt
And that thing would weigh, I don't know, roughly, like £50,000 trying to move that.
- [195:30]
Pat McAfee
So, yeah, it'll be freezing. But as I saw it, I'm like, it's a good idea, like for when you painting at the house. Kind of similar concept. Yeah, it's not a bad idea there. Keep it clean. The flamethrower, I like that idea. I like the concept. I think I saw Jordan Davis doing.
- [195:42]
Ty Schmidt
It was.
- [195:42]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [195:43]
Pat McAfee
It didn't look like it was melting as fast.
- [195:45]
Ty Schmidt
It wasn't doing anything.
- [195:45]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it didn't look like.
- [195:47]
Ed
It looks cool but cold outside.
- [195:50]
Ty Schmidt
Get a shovel.
- [195:52]
Darius J. Butler
Sorry. Electric shovel. That works.
- [195:54]
Pat McAfee
Electric shovel.
- [195:55]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, who do I see?
- [195:56]
Pat McAfee
What's that?
- [195:56]
Darius J. Butler
Jim Jones?
- [195:57]
AJ
You mean that pushes like the.
- [195:58]
Ed
Oh, I've seen a lot of videos.
- [195:59]
Tony Romo
Like a brush.
- [196:00]
Ed
You know how Foxy had the robot that cut his grass? I saw a lot of arumba.
- [196:04]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah, Similar.
- [196:05]
Ed
I saw a lot of room.
- [196:06]
Pat McAfee
Is that what you're talking? No, I saw the robot.
- [196:08]
Ed
Snowblowers had a big weekend.
- [196:10]
Pat McAfee
An electric shovel. What do you mean, an electric shovel?
- [196:12]
Darius J. Butler
I mean, I didn't watch the entire.
- [196:14]
Pat McAfee
It's like a miniaturized snowblower. Kind of looks like a broom. Electric broom, almost, you could call it, but like, it works good for a couple inches. But like, it wouldn't have done much with that, that foot we got off. I like the ideas that we're trying to come up with though, because it gets real cold. Real, real painful out there. Your back really starts feeling it. Whatever you got.
- [196:29]
Ty Schmidt
Mine still hurts.
- [196:30]
Pat McAfee
Because you're out there with a shovel.
- [196:32]
AJ
Yeah.
- [196:32]
Pat McAfee
Weren't you gonna get a snowblower at one point?
- [196:34]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah. I went into Ace Hardware and I just decided, you know what? I'm not gonna spend 2400 bucks on a snowblower.
- [196:41]
Pat McAfee
How come?
- [196:42]
Ty Schmidt
Because that's ridiculous. And I told the guy that said, nobody's gonna buy this thing. Mark that down fourteen hundred dollars. And then somebody might now give me six bags of ice melt. And you think about what you've done. I was. I mean, I'm not kidding. I went in there with no hesitation. I'm buying a snowblower. And Diggs and Nick both have an electric one. In my, my mind, always electric snowblower. It's Mickey Mouse, but I'll get it because I'm not gonna need to use it multiple times. I don't need one of them. Big gas powered.
- [197:15]
Pat McAfee
This is once every two years.
- [197:16]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly. I look at the gas powered rig, I said, 50, 1500. I was like, well, not that bad. I turn over. I mean, this thing was taken up six aisles with how big it was. Says right in the box, does not come with battery or charger. The snowblower on its own was sixteen hundred dollars. And then if you wanted everything to actually make it be able to work, it was 2400. I said, you know what? That I'm gonna go home and shovel.
- [197:40]
Pat McAfee
And how's your back feel?
- [197:43]
Ty Schmidt
I tell you what, it was fine until the plows Came in and I had to go do the end of my driveway when the snow was up to my waist. And each scoop weighed 150.
- [197:53]
Pat McAfee
And they never stopped. No, it was one scoop after a more.
- [197:57]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [197:58]
Ty Schmidt
And I went on and on and.
- [197:59]
Pat McAfee
On and on and on.
- [198:00]
Ty Schmidt
I. I shoveled over the course of two days, I shoveled probably for about five hours. But I'll tell you what, the sense of accomplishment you get when you're done shoveling the driver driveway, There are few things that top that.
- [198:14]
Pat McAfee
All right, well, maybe you get another opportunity at it.
- [198:17]
Ty Schmidt
No, no, because I told him, I'm never doing that again. I'm turn around. I'm gonna go buy that snowblower.
- [198:23]
Pat McAfee
Smart.
- [198:23]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah.
- [198:24]
Ty Schmidt
My back hurts so bad. Like movers.
- [198:28]
Ed
Exactly.
- [198:28]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah, understandable. And that guy knew 2400 bucks.
- [198:32]
Ty Schmidt
He did. And I know it's still sitting there because nobody's dumb enough except for me to go back and buy that thing.
- [198:38]
Pat McAfee
Well, I'm pulling for you. Good luck, snowblower. You guys look like heroes. Whenever time comes. You couldn't wait to put the photo or the video.
- [198:44]
Ed
Well, someone questioned me, so I had to do it. And then I got, you know, all the hardos about it being electric and not gas when my driveway is not big enough to need a gas, you know, but here we are. Shouldn't be wearing a cowboy hat. Should shut the up all the time.
- [198:56]
Darius J. Butler
So here.
- [198:57]
Pat McAfee
Oh, is this guy okay? Jeez. Is everything.
- [199:00]
AJ
I don't know.
- [199:01]
Pat McAfee
This guy's a hero. I was trying to say you d. Huh? That apple break.
- [199:04]
AJ
Okay, Tone the.
- [199:06]
Ed
That app will break you.
- [199:08]
Pat McAfee
Especially when you're.
- [199:09]
Ed
You're in the streets of vet and Coach McCarthy all weekend long.
- [199:12]
Pat McAfee
Seems like a lot I actually heard somebody today say. Man, I've never seen a universal response to a coach hiring before. And fox is going to the bathroom.
- [199:23]
Anthony De Julio
Oh, man, that son of a.
- [199:27]
Pat McAfee
We're still going, huh? For the first hour. Oh, yeah.
- [199:29]
Anthony De Julio
Since 1:30.
- [199:30]
Darius J. Butler
Oh, yeah. Coach. Damn.
- [199:34]
Pat McAfee
On that note, it's been a hell of a day. Happy super bowl season, everybody.
- [199:40]
Tony Romo
Happy Super Bos.
- [199:41]
Anthony De Julio
Hell, yeah.
- [199:43]
Pat McAfee
We have somebody's on tomorrow. It's really big. Oh, Mike. Teri.
- [199:48]
Darius J. Butler
Mike.
- [199:48]
AJ
Yes, he.
- [199:50]
Darius J. Butler
Are you sure?
- [199:51]
Ed
F On full blown.
- [199:53]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, he is.
- [199:54]
Darius J. Butler
Okay.
- [199:56]
Ty Schmidt
His words, not mine.
- [199:58]
Pat McAfee
All right, we will definitely dive into that. Can't go over two in two days. Can't do that. Tony Romo today, Mike Tirico tomorrow. Excited about that. We got some surprise guests coming to the show on radio row next week that I think will be hilarious. We got some Very hilarious and good football situations brewing debuts. Thanks for breaking down a little DC with shove on the quarters coverage. That should have been happening on back end. So Jackson, Smith and Jigba. He's in wide ass open. And we got Cooper cup taking a guy away from her, so he's even more open.
- [200:29]
Darius J. Butler
I got a text from Rams coach told me I nailed it.
- [200:33]
Pat McAfee
Well, I. I got a text from. We all got a text from Chuck Pagano. It said, yeah, let's go. Break down, shove and execute is the next one. Because that's the coach's excuse. Coach's excuse is like, yeah, we can call it. We can teach it by executing it. It's kind of part of it. That's the coach is saying, it's on you guys.
- [200:50]
Anthony De Julio
Yeah, get that done.
- [200:51]
Darius J. Butler
Love you, Chuck.
- [200:52]
Pat McAfee
We do love you, Chuck. What a wild year it was for.
- [200:56]
Anthony De Julio
Him, I assume tough.
- [200:58]
Ed
Love you, coach.
- [200:59]
Pat McAfee
Love you, coach. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change their life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. Let's wait for the end of Foxy's. Oh, wait for Foxy.
- [201:14]
AJ
What if he's dumping?
- [201:15]
Pat McAfee
He said, I got a pee in my ear.
- [201:18]
Ed
Tell you what, that guess quarter guest list next week is long and distinguished.
- [201:22]
Ty Schmidt
Very robust.
- [201:24]
Pat McAfee
There's some cool names on there.
- [201:26]
Ty Schmidt
Great.
- [201:26]
Pat McAfee
You all right, Ed? You get a cramp?
- [201:28]
AJ
I realize I got, like, cigar ash.
- [201:30]
Pat McAfee
All over my hand.
- [201:30]
Ed
No, he just refuses to put up the fork.
- [201:32]
Pat McAfee
I like that you just put.
- [201:32]
AJ
No, I had my fort.
- [201:33]
Pat McAfee
I noticed it. You lift with ash instead of chalk. It's because you're an absolute weapon, dude. Respect that. Team on me. Team on three. Foxy's back from his P. Shout out. You, Foxy. We waited for you. Thank you. Shouldn't have anything to say to the team.
- [201:52]
Joe Montana
Hell, yeah.
- [201:54]
Pat McAfee
Happy super bowl season. One, two, three, team.
- [201:58]
Tony Romo
Goodbye.