PMS 2.0 1503 - Live from the Lahd Hahse for the NFL Combine, Mat Ishbia, Joe Hortiz, Jim Harbaugh, Mike McDaniel, Jesse Minter, John Schneider, Robert Saleh & Mike Borgonzi

Summary

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 #1503: Live from the Lahd Hahse at the NFL Combine

Date: February 25, 2026
Host: Pat McAfee, with AJ Hawk, the Toxic Table, and Tone Diggs
Special Guests: Mat Ishbia (Phoenix Suns owner), Joe Hortiz (Chargers GM), Jim Harbaugh (Chargers HC), Mike McDaniel (Chargers OC), Jesse Minter (Ravens HC), John Schneider (Seattle Seahawks GM), Robert Saleh (Titans HC), Mike Borgonzi (Titans GM)
Location: Lucas Oil Stadium, Indianapolis

Episode Overview

Pat McAfee and crew are back, broadcasting live from Indianapolis for the 2026 NFL Combine. This special episode blends insider football conversations, NFL combine insights, a passionate Olympic recap, and interviews with some of football’s biggest decision-makers and personalities. McAfee and team cover the present and future of the NFL, discuss cyclical trends in football, speculate on player movement, and highlight the gravity of the Combine for incoming rookies and teams alike.

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Key Topics & Highlights

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The Significance of the NFL Combine

[00:00–06:57]

• Combine as the Great Equalizer: Pat describes the Combine as where legacies and fortunes are made, overlooked prospects can shine, and the networking across the league intensifies with agents, GMs, and coaches all in town.
• The “Largest Sports Interview on Earth”: Emphasizes the holistic evaluation—athletic testing, on-field drills, and crucial meetings testing recall, football IQ, and “do you love ball?”
• Football’s Offseason Pilgrimage: The Combine is depicted as a Mecca for hope, especially for downtrodden fan bases seeking Super Bowl dreams, with 197 days until the new season.
• [05:59] AJ Hawk on the Mind Games: "It's the ultimate job interview... the mental side is even a bigger component that people don’t talk about."
• Discussion on loaded draft positions (WR, Edge, DB), key quarterbacks, and the pressures on prospects.

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Olympic Recap: Patriotism and Sportsmanship

[07:42–21:36]

• Winter Olympics Deep Dive:
  • McAfee lauds U.S. athletes and narrates emotional highlights—Alex Ferreira (gold, men's skiing halfpipe), Alyssa Liu (figure skating prodigy), Elena Myers Taylor (41, first bobsled gold), Jordan Stolz (speed skating), Team USA women’s and men’s hockey triumphs over Canada.
  • “If we know the sport exists here in America, we win it.” – Pat, [08:37]
  • Laments figure skating judging controversies and celebrates unique Olympic moments.
• On Athletes Representing America:
  • McAfee preaches the pride U.S. athletes have, noting: “When the national anthem is played before sports, athletes are thinking about: our athletes are better than yours... Sports are a way to show other countries you’re better.”
  • Discusses the celebratory culture post-victory and the role of sports as a substitute for international rivalry.

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NBA All-Star Insight with Mat Ishbia

[25:50–41:21]

• Ishbia’s NBA Dream Journey:
  • His transition from mortgage magnate to Suns owner and recent on-court exploits at the Celebrity All-Star Game.
  • On tanking and draft strategy: "Tanking is loser mentality... That’s not my stuff. If you want to lose, I'll show you a loser." – Ishbia, [30:25]
  • Advocates for changing incentives in the NBA to discourage losing for picks.
  • Announces (with Pat) $1M prize + $1M charity donations for next year’s NBA All-Star slam dunk and three-point contests.
• Key Quotes:
  • "Everyone says, ‘Don't meddle,’ but as a basketball guy, you want to be involved." – Ishbia, [28:15]
  • Explores team-building dynamics, NBA’s global growth, and managing the All-Star event in Phoenix.

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Chargers’ Brain Trust: GM Joe Hortiz, HC Jim Harbaugh, OC Mike McDaniel

[42:24–56:34]

• Organizational Alignment:
  • Focus on shoring up offensive line, integrating new offensive/defensive philosophies with OC McDaniel and DC Jesse Minter.
  • Harbaugh on learning from McDaniel: "I'm really just leaning into how Mike sees the game; it's creative. It puts defenses in conflict." – [44:03]
  • On Justin Herbert: “A player that has shown he can do everything on the football field.” – McDaniel, [47:16]
  • Discuss evolving X’s and O’s, with McDaniel reflecting on his pre-snap innovations and how football trends are cyclical (offense vs defense), and adapting schemes to player strengths.

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Baltimore Ravens’ New Head Coach: Jesse Minter

[69:16–88:00]

• From Michigan to the NFL:
  • Minter shares how being with Jim Harbaugh prepped him for the top job.
  • On owner Steve Bisciotti: “He's the best owner in sports. He creates an environment where you’re always going to be doing what’s needed to be successful.” – Minter, [71:43]
  • Discusses building around Lamar Jackson, keeping Ravens’ defensive tradition, and making the leap to head coach.
  • Minter on chess-match defensive philosophy: “What coaching is—what do you have available, how can you put them in position to be successful?” – [79:14]

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Kicker Analysis, Salary Cap & Business of Football

[89:19–95:43]

• Kicker Combine: Pat analyzes what scouts look for (“height” on kicks, strength, accuracy).
• Brandon Aubrey’s $10M+ Contract Prospects:
  • McAfee: “Every time you get a new record-setting contract comes the expectation as well.”
  • Explains the business side—media deals, salary cap jump, and financial health of the league.

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John Schneider (Seahawks GM): Building Dynasties, Leadership & Scouting

[119:16–151:22]

• From Carroll to McDonald: Intimate details on Pete Carroll’s departure and hiring Mike Macdonald—valuing vision, “no egos, all ball,” and setting up for the next great era.
• QB Decisions: On moving on from Geno Smith, pivoting to Sam Darnold, and what’s required in the role.
• Culture and Talent Evaluation:
  • “Eye in the sky [on tape] and the person, the competitor, that’s what we look for.” – Schneider, [128:27]
  • Shares stories of combine interview questions, the value of authenticity, and the importance of “no walls” communication between personnel and coaches.
• On New Ownership Transition: Schneider expects to be a "carryover" and is preparing for an eventual $10B+ franchise sale.

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Titans New Regime: Robert Saleh (HC) and Mike Borgonzi (GM)

[153:43–176:59]

• Saleh’s Second Chance:
  • On learning from Jets adversity and recalibrating under Kyle Shanahan in San Francisco to prepare for head coaching in Tennessee.
  • Emphasizes style: “When people are watching... we want that [tape] to scream speed and violence.” – Saleh, [169:09]
  • Salutes Jeffrey Simmons as a cornerstone player.
• Borgonzi on Team Building:
  • Draws from Kansas City on creating a collaborative, “no division” culture reminiscent of Andy Reid’s model.
  • Titans have massive salary cap room ($100M+) and are targeting the right blend of FA and draft to build a new culture.
• QB Cam Ward discussed as a centerpiece:
  • “The dude is wired right... a competitor. He loves football, and the guys gravitate toward him.” – Borgonzi, [160:48]

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Combine Betting & Position Trends

[60:37–65:17]

• Combine as a Betting Event:
  • Tone Diggs reviews 40-yard dash odds, bench press favorites, and which combine ‘freaks’ are poised to break records.
  • Discussion around the impact (or lack thereof) of certain drills—bench press rarely a dealbreaker for prospects.
• Return of "Beef":
  • Reflection on cyclical football trends—speed vs power, linebacker size, and the resurgence of run-heavy concepts.

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Notable Quotes

• Pat McAfee [08:37]: “If we know the sport exists here in America, we win it.”
• AJ Hawk [05:59]: “It's the ultimate job interview... The mental side is even a bigger component that a lot of people don't talk about.”
• Mat Ishbia [30:25]: “Tanking is loser mentality... That’s losers. That’s not my stuff.”
• Jim Harbaugh [44:03]: “I'm really just leaning into how Mike sees the game; it's creative. It puts defenses in conflict.”
• John Schneider [128:29]: “What really matters is, like, eye in the sky and then the person, the competitor, that's kind of what we've [always looked for].”
• Robert Saleh [169:09]: “When people are watching and they can't hear anything... what are you telling them? We want that thing to scream speed and violence.”

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Memorable Moments & Lighter Highlights

• All-Star “Combine Charity Challenge”:
  • Each guest attempts to toss a football through a small hole for $100,000 to charity—many near-misses, some playful ribbing.
• Pat’s heartfelt Olympic Salute:
  • Emotional tribute to athletes, solidarity, and national pride.
• Pat on Combine “off-the-field” action:
  • Plenty of playful jabs about the handshake deals and late-night bar negotiations happening throughout Indy.
• Cultural, Generational Football Chatter:
  • Reflections on scouting in the age of personality testing, media training, and the “do you love ball?” test.
• Endless banter about team needs, coaching hires, and the ever-churning NFL rumor mill.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• NFL Combine Opening Monologue: [00:00–06:57]
• Olympics Recap & Impact: [07:42–21:36]
• Mat Ishbia Interview: [25:50–41:21]
• Chargers’ Brass Roundtable: [42:24–56:34]
• Ravens HC Jesse Minter: [69:16–88:00]
• Kicker Market, Cap Talk: [89:19–95:43]
• John Schneider In-depth: [119:16–151:22]
• Titans New Era (Saleh & Borgonzi): [153:43–176:59]
• Combine Betting, Trends: [60:37–65:17]

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Conclusion

The episode brings all the chaos and camaraderie of the Combine to life, mixing deep football analysis with behind-the-scenes storytelling and humor. Listeners gain real-time insight into how the NFL’s most pivotal offseason week operates—from front office decisions to the lore of “grit” and culture-building in the modern league, all delivered in the show’s signature, relatable, and energetic tone.

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Perfect for fans seeking the intersection of league business, on-field trends, and the personalities driving every story, this episode is a comprehensive snapshot of where football stands—and where it’s heading—in 2026.

Transcript

[A]

Hello beautiful people and welcome to the Loud house Luke Desorial stadium for the 2026 NFL Combine. This program begins now. Football is the greatest of all time and we are so incredibly thankful that we are back on microphones chit chatting about the next voyage to the top of Lombardi Mountain. We are here at Lucas Oil Stadium in beautiful Indianapolis, Indiana for the 39th consecutive time, the home of of the NFL combine. There's going to be dudes wearing tights, running really fast, 40s, jumping really high. There's going to be drills on the field that are going to showcase elite ability and skill. This is the largest sports interview that happens on earth. Dreams can come true here. Legacies can be defined. There's a lot of men that show up at this Lucas Oil stadium with just a hope and a dream. Maybe they've been overlooked. Maybe they go to a smaller school. Maybe nobody really knows exactly who they are. And then boom, 4, 3, 40, bang. 42 inch vertical. And all of a sudden we're talking about a first round pick. We're talking about a family Chang forever. Your family tree becoming much more profitable. That is what's happening here in Indianapolis, Indiana on that field and in some of these meetings. But in this city here, oh, there's a lot of backdoor handshaking. Every agent that represents every player, every coach, every team, every owner, every business, every marketing are shaking hands. There's a couple cocktails happening around the city. The entire league is here except for a couple coaches. Huh? Huh?

[B]

Not working.

[A]

That's how it could be described or it could be described as it has become such a spectacular event that the coverage of the on field drills are so spectacular. So as long as your general manager, your front office, your scouting department is here, there's magic to be made. But also free agencies right around the corner. Deals are getting done over a couple cocktails. There's a lot of magic taking place in this week. We'll have so many people on this particular program. There'll be workouts Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And on this particular program, we have people flying in today. Owner of the Phoenix Suns, Matt Ishbia will be here. He was loud on Twitter a little bit ago. And in the celebrity NBA All Star Game, he was spectacular. Joe Ortiz, general manager of the Los Angeles Chargers, will stop by. Jim Harbaugh, head coach, will be alongside of a new head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. From the Chargers, Jesse Minter will join us. John Schneider, Seattle Seahawks general manager who has bought two, two brought and bought two Super Bowls winning programs to Seattle. And then Bob Sala, the new head coach of the Tennessee Titans, will stop by. This will be his first time on our program. I feel like I've watched a lot of him with Hard Knocks and Aaron over there with the jets and how it's all gone. We've seen him on the sideline jacked up. Now he's in the AFC South. Cannot wait to catch up with him. We are so thankful that we get to do this for a living. We have missed the hell out of you. Ty Schmidt will be back on Friday, I believe still at home. Darius Butler will be back in March enjoying the hell out of his family down there in Florida. The boys that are joining me here are a great group. Today's talks with table is represented by AustinConnor and onediggs conman the combine kicks off the next search the next journey, the next Mecca pilgrimage to the top of Lombardi Mountain. How many days away are we from the NFL season?

[C]

Yeah, 197 days away from the 2026 NFL season. And you're right, I mean this was it last year for the Patriots. As a Patriots fan last year, hey, we're the fourth overall pick. This is where it start this year. Coming into it with the 31st overall pick, we're a couple doors down from the Philadelphia Eagles. Maybe they, maybe they go behind the scenes, make some of those handshake deals you're talking about. But if you're a team that isn't good, this is where it starts. This is where the hope kind of kicks off again. Look at that right there. Raiders, Jets, Cardinals, Titans, Giants in the top five. If you are a fan of one of those teams, you're looking at this weekend as, hey, this is where we build the foundation for the super bowl run next year.

[A]

And obviously free agencies around the corner. There's some teams who have a lot more money than other teams. There's teams that are maybe a little cap strapped that are going to have to utilize these young guys. Any team that wins this super bowl is going to have rookies that are performing. Now. Not every rookie will be performing and throwing and everything like that. We understand that that's become a new, very expected norm for the top. But there's not a lot of people that have separated themselves in a lot of different positions. There's a lot of things to be had here. Tone Diggs, what are they saying about this particular draft?

[B]

Yeah, there's a ton. And you talk about people working out, not working out. Obviously Mendoza, who's probably going to go Number one to the Raiders. It'd be a shock if he did not. He is not going to throw, but Ty Simpson, the number two quarterback, will throw. This is going to be a huge, huge combine for him. But then you talk about like what people think are the, the loaded positions in this draft. It's, it's wide receiver. You got Makai Lemon, you got Carnell, Tate, Jordan, Tyson, Denzel, Boston. They're all probably first round guys. The edges, you got Bain Mezador, David Bailey, Arvell Reese, Cassius Howell.

[C]

That's not his name. Tony.

[B]

Oh, Val Reese. Sorry that happened this morning. That's on me. Those are all supposed to be first round guys. So wide receiver, edge is loaded. And then they, they're saying it's really, really deep for DB and off ball linebacker, which you know, our good friend started and studied at.

[A]

Yeah, no doubt. Ladies and gentlemen, also here, college football national champion, super bowl champion, Ryder cup winner, Amanda was the number five overall pick in the draft. Pre, pre cba, got paid a lot of money, played a lot of ball, became the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay packers, had a 40 plus inch vert, a 4, 440 and weighed in at 400, ain't 75 pounds. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk Hawker. Your thoughts on the combine as we come back here. Obviously I was not invited to the combine, shot the NFL scout, which is wild. The hell yeah. Shout out. Shout out. Shout out. Didn't get invited. Was in the Senior bowl. No big deal. But every time I come here, I learn about something new that's happening. Like we were walking back around the suites here where we kind of have a setup. Shout out to espn, shout out to Foss, shout out to Barcode. Shout out to everybody that has made this happen. Obviously, and the fact that this has not been covered like this for a long time is absolutely outrageous. But while we were talking up there behind the suites and walking, we were looking overhead. There was law players down there with different scouting departments and coaches. They're showing them film, there's, they're calling on plays. And then like there's a chance two days from now, that same scout comes up and says, hey, what was that play that I told you there? It's a constant mind game of trying to learn who people are. Is that what you experienced when you hear and is that what you think this combine actually is?

[D]

Yeah, I think it's, it's the ultimate job interview that you have to show your physical skills on the field, bench press, all the different things and then the mental side, I think, is even a bigger component that a lot of people don't talk about. You hear people say, hey, oh, those meetings are going to be big. And some of these people are only in town Monday through Wednesday, Monday through Thursday, because they want to get in the room and one on one with these guys and see, you know, what they know about ball. And like, like Pat said, they might install a couple blitzes or something if you're a defensive guy and then come back to you maybe tomorrow or six, seven hours later. Hey, draw this up for me. Remember I told you that, you know, field Miami, whatever blitz that we might have had, and I want you to recall that and draw it up. Oh, and then, by the way, give me your three favorite blitzes that you ran this in college. Like, I had stuff like that coming at me the whole time was at the combo.

[A]

So it's a lot of football IQ stuff. Also. Who are you? Everybody's looking for dogs.

[D]

Do you love ball? That's what the good ones. I ask every gm, any coach, anyone, they say, I want to know if this guy loves ball. And I will ask every person in their life and try to figure it out before we take a draft pick on somebody. Do you love football or do you love what football brings you?

[A]

Now, obviously, especially in the first round, because they're a business and they're making a multimillion dollar investment. If it's a first round pick, especially if it's a top five pick, it's a huge investment. There's a lot more. But guys, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round, they can do a lot for themselves here in the meetings, in the conversations, in the recall where they can all showcase it. It's a special time, special place, and we'll be. I think there's gonna be a lot of people stopping by for conversation. We might make some news here, might do a little journalism. I mean, there's a chance. I will say I was a little bummed out at the end of our break, obviously, loved hanging out with Mackenzie and my wife and getting a chance to get away and not have to chit chat, you know, for four hours live every single day. Even though that is a dream come true to be able to do that. The break was a little long. Got the Disney World with the baby girl. That looked awesome. Love that.

[C]

Saw the guy with the bells. Yeah.

[A]

Enjoy weapon over there in Germany. You know, stopped by Epcot, went over to Germany, did that. Baby girl is about, I think, like, next year's trip. She'll be Perfect. If that makes sense. She's like two and a half right now. So whenever I think, whenever she's three and a half, it'll be like the perfect thing. So we had a lot of great times. It was great to see her. Seeing Winnie, the. That moment is awesome. Her and I get in to connect every single day. The amount of time, it's amazing. It's beautiful. But there are so many things happening in sports where all I kept trying to do is just like, I would like to talk about this. But then, you know, it's like, well, also gotta relax because we got a long haul coming up in the offseason. I would like to say thank you so much to the Winter Olympics. Thank you so much to the Winter Olympics. NBC. I thought you did a fantastic job. I thought the coverage was remarkable. I appreciated the fact that we could spend literally all day watching these sports that we've never seen before. Now I would like to say that if we know the sport exists here in America, we win it.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Okay. And I would like there to be a little bit more of a spotlight on these sports that I don't think many Americans will ever sign up to do. That guy sprinted up a mountain. He did okay. Six minute mile nuke up a mountain. We're never going to have skis on ski. We're never going to have a kid. No, this is an option. Basketball is an option. There's normal running.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So many things are available in some of these countries. This is. This is like we go outside, we have a kick and we sprint up a mountain. So I think some of these sports we have no chance at. But I love the way we competed.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

I love the way the United States was representing some things that I've never seen before. I like that. In the mixed co ed curling, we meddled for the first time. I liked that the bobsled was getting exciting and had some magical stories. I liked it. Our team figure skaters did well.

[E]

The team.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

I hated what happened to Quad God. God. I hated what happened to Quad God. Quaggard almost turned me off from the entire Olympics. Quad God almost made me lose faith in the United States of America's team. I should not have done that. I should have maintained, which I did. And I would like to tell Ilya, the Quagguard, you're wearing merch. Walking into a thing. You lose, it's going to be loud. I couldn't imagine the demons in between ears right now. Next Olympics is all yours, Quad God. All yours. Let's look back On a couple of the Winter Olympics, we pieced together some of our favorite moments that we got a chance. And we actually just like to take a documented, recorded time and pay tribute to the United States athletes that work their asses off to win for us. Let's go to Alex Ferreira. Alex Ferreira. I watched this one live in person. Gold medal men's skiing halfbike. This dude stomped it out. I will say the skiers on the half pipes at a higher clip were having much more successful runs. They were flying around this guy Ferreira fur to gold. They had a sign. I loved everything about it. He did shout to America on the skis. And also whenever they just like, kind of slingshot themselves up in that thing where they.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And they just don't even look and they're doing the flipping thing. And then they stomp it out. The skiers almost send it more they do than. And then let alone the. They swap.

[C]

Oh, the alpine jumpers.

[B]

Oh, yes.

[A]

Oh, my God. I was like, I think skiing and Lindsey Vaughn.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Shout out.

[A]

Hey.

[G]

Wow.

[D]

What a warrior legend.

[B]

She did it.

[A]

Absolute dog. Everybody was telling her, no way.

[C]

Can't be out there.

[A]

You should not be doing this. This is not what you should be doing. She said, yeah, right. Are you kidding me? Then you learn about everything happening in her life around everything that's taking place. Her going out there and then literally having to get choppered off the mountain. It's like going out on your shield there. Lindsay, that was awesome. That's an absolute dog. And thank you for everything you've done for the United States of America. Lindsey Vaughn. But the skiers really impressed me in the Winter Olympics. And then let's talk about a little bit of the figure skaters. Okay, let's talk Alyssa Liu. Did you see this?

[D]

I did not see much of her.

[C]

What AJ Tell me about it.

[A]

So Alyssa Lu, I think whenever, if I read her story accurately. And by the way, it was an interesting time to not. You don't have to commit to understanding everything going on in the world. So 3.8 million files get released. Okay. That's an interesting time to have a lot of time to go on your phone. And then the Olympics are happening at the same time, and you're kind of watching all this stuff. And Alyssa Liu's story. Amazing. We're talking like a prodigy. 13, 14 year old. Prodigy. Young, Young. Then she leaves the game. Then she comes back. She has this clear mind. She's obviously incredibly talented, and she just takes over. Story is allegedly she was approached because her dad I believe from China to potentially go on to team China. And her dad said, no, we live in America or whatever. And then she gets a gold medal for us. She has moxie, she has swag. She's awesome. She was so happy and joyful while she was out there. It was a beautiful representation of competitive sport for United States of America. Shout out to her, battling adversity, coming back, getting to the top and enjoying the entire thing. Why I loved watching Olisa Lou.

[C]

Yeah, she's a perfect example of what the Olympics are all about. Like, you don't really know much about the person. Alyssa Liu, before the Olympics, figure skater. Sure. But then she goes out, dominates, and then she has that moment coming off the ice. Lutz go. As she's yelling. And it gets picked up on the hot mic. And that felt like a great encapsulation of the figure skating in general. Like she crushed it and delivered. You mentioned kind of being a prodigy. That pressure in between the years, hey, I need to win gold or else, you know, I'm a huge kind of letdown to my country. You're on half an inch of a skate in any little sneeze movement. Ilya, like your entire four years build up is ruined because of that. And she delivered on every single fast.

[A]

So much pressure. Scary as hell. I would say it is a scary. As I'm watching, I get so nervous for him just because the amount of work that had to have gone in to get to that point. And then you just. And then maybe there's a judge from a country. Bingo. Yeah, speak. Can we talk?

[C]

No, but Mac, for. We mentioned the scene and.

[A]

Yeah, you're right back forehand. I got screwed.

[B]

He did something never.

[A]

No one's ever done in the history

[C]

and landed it perfectly. Anytime if you do something for the first time ever and you landed perfectly, you win gold. Every single time.

[A]

I watch X Games, I watch the Olympics. Every time.

[C]

If you do it first, you win gold. But there just had to be a Norway judge, you know, had to be a Norway judge.

[A]

Had to be interesting.

[C]

Norway. Son of a.

[B]

Didn't they win the most medals?

[C]

Well, yeah, I think they did.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Well, I will say, though, it does feel like some of those countries are much more suited to win some of these.

[B]

Well, it's cool.

[C]

I do. They run uphill with their skis. They're proud of it.

[A]

Okay, let's talk about. Speaking of. Let's talk about Michaela Shiffrin. Congrats, legend. American legend. Appreciate you. Michaela going out there getting another one I'll tell you, the slalom's crazy. I mean the amount of quads. I think A.J. that's quads core. And then your knees got to be phenomenal out there as well.

[D]

Yeah, I've never, see, I've, I've actually never really skied, so I don't even understand. But this looks absolutely impossible to me. But. And you talk about the pressure. We talk about this all the time when everything comes down to like one or two runs and you like. I just don't get it. I don't understand how these people are able to compete at the highest level and able to, to actually stand up and live up to all that hype. It's just, it's unbelievable.

[A]

And talk about amazing moments. How about the first gold medal in bobsled for a 41 year old badass named Elena Myers Taylor? What a story. I believe her whole family. There's a lot of, a lot behind this. She's been in bobsledding for a long time. Wins gold. Con man. Special story coming out of the Olympics.

[C]

Yeah, so cool. I think it was her fifth total medal at the Olympics. So she's been in never gold. She's been chasing it. You mentioned first ever for her, so that was cool. And then the moment with her son, her son I believe is deaf. I think she has another son who also is impaired. I think he has a handicap and is deaf. So like that story and just a moment of the family like her crying, signing to her son like mommy won. That was, you know, I'm getting chills

[A]

just talking about it right now. So cool. There's a lot of those moments while you're watching. And then let's talk about Jordan Stoles. He wins the 500 meter and 1000 meter gold medals for United States of America. Ends up with the most amount of golds, I believe. Tone.

[B]

Yeah, he had won gold and set Olympic records in the 500 and the thousand. Stolz, he did is what I call him, I'm sure everybody else calls him Stolzy as well. And then the 1500, he got silver. He was the most quote unquote decorated Olympic athlete for the US of, of this Olympics with the most medals for the US this year.

[A]

And story of the Olympics. Who owns hockey now?

[C]

Think about that.

[A]

Who, who, who owns hockey now?

[C]

No, the Swedes play.

[B]

They do.

[D]

What do you think, Gumpy?

[A]

And then there's obviously the Olympic athletes of Russia. They, they play really good hockey.

[C]

Slovakia, they play good. They're, they're good. Finland.

[A]

Oh, they're so

[B]

have a team this year.

[A]

Yeah, they were there.

[B]

They play hockey for sure.

[A]

And then there's missing one. There's one country that maybe had their best team to ever go onto the ice.

[B]

That's a lot of people were saying

[C]

of all the countries, best team ever

[B]

and all they do is play hockey.

[A]

And it's like their thing every day you wake up some Canadians actually turn their living rooms into hockey rinks and just leave their doors, washers and dryers. Canada, really good hockey.

[C]

The best.

[A]

I say very good hockey. You guys are. Hey, Canada, really unbelievable times.

[B]

58 times they've won major tournaments.

[D]

Congrats.

[A]

58 times.

[D]

Shit.

[A]

Painter from Canada dropping in with some stats. That's cool. What did. What have you done for me lately? Oh, the USA women's hockey team gold medal winner, Megan Keller. Hi. Hi. Hockey's our sport. Says the US Women's hockey team. They've won it three times. They're absolute monsters, beasts on the ice. We, I believe, going to be catching up with Megan Keller this week. Cannot wait to chat with her. That was fun to watch. Overtime.

[C]

Come on.

[A]

Especially with women's hockey. Fast. Yes, very fast. Obviously the evolution of sports as a whole for the women flag football is about to be insane. By the way I'm getting here what the behind the scenes are. But women's hockey, our team, always fast, always intense. Every Olympics it feels like women's hockey is a fun. Watch us beating Canada in overtime. What a magical way to start the hockey dominant run that we had.

[C]

Especially a goal like that you can think of sometimes some of the game winning goals that we've seen, like even Patty Kane, you know, sliding it through the legs against the Flyers to win the Stanley cup.

[A]

Like Sydney Crosby, that backhand, Crosby backhand,

[C]

like kind of weird goals left her in her boots.

[A]

That was the.

[C]

That was filthiest goal to win a game, let alone a gold medal. Like that is a dream come true. And from a girl that doesn't score as much, like if it's Hillary Knight, you think, okay, fine. Like that's the superstar Megyn Keller doing it even cooler.

[A]

And then ladies and gentlemen, the talk of the town. Now there's a presidential medal of freedom winner that was on the team. The US men beat the Canadian men in overtime in the Olympic gold medal game. And whatever you think about all the boys, the Kentucks, the Hughes, you know, Auston Matthews is captain. And then Hallibuck standing on his head. It was a magical run. They should not have won that game. One goalie Decided that we were going to win the gold medal. And then in overtime it felt like the boys moxie really shined through. Some people didn't think Jack Hughes was tough because he's a little bit undersized. He's a goal scorer, he's from a family of hockey. The natural thing to say is like, oh, he's not tough. He's small guy eats his tooth, eats a tooth and a half while eating a stick, then comes back in overtime. Hi, how you doing? Keep it moving, Jackie. Aces Jack Eichel's out there doing his thing. It was like fun to learn about all these guys, but also watch the amount of pride that they had in beating Canada. Remember these boys, these lads have like lived in the league. Canada, Canada. I mean, our accent for hockey is a Canadian accent because that is what hockey has always been known in the Kachuk boys, the attitude in which they bring to it all. I think the first time we talked to Matthew, we mentioned like, hey, got to beat Canada. And he's like, we got a team, we got a team. These boys have been gearing up for this. Johnny Goudreau. Yeah, him being a part of that group that has been gearing up for this moment and being a part of it. Special man, that was. I, I was. I haven't felt like that watching a game in I don't know how long. 8am game, I think they had 26 million. Whenever he scored or whatever it was. They had 27 million I believe for the 2 o' clock game in Vancouver. If that game would have been in the afternoon, two or four o', clock, I think we're touching like 40 there. I think with how socially relevant it became at 5am West coast start is a very tough start for this entire thing. 26 million live in real time is crazy. But it generated and garnered so many emotions for me while I was watching because I know how hard these dudes have worked to do this. And I think, you know, it's been interesting dealing with the whole, you know, people not being happy because the world in the country isn't going how they feel the country should be going. And it's like sports are just so different. I don't know how to explain it or to get into people's minds. I tried to explain whenever I was getting attacked by everybody, you know, it's like when you grow up in a sport that has the international capabilities and plays against other countries, you're kind of taught like, hey, we are better than them. I was trying to play on the U.S. men's National Team to beat the hell out of England because England owns soccer. So whenever the national anthem is played before sports, athletes are thinking about. Our athletes that are made on this land are better than your athletes. We're bigger dogs than you. We're more talented than you are. There's not a lot of ways for countries to compete with other countries. And in sports, it's a big deal for our athletes who are naturally competitive people, to have a sense of pride in where they come from, a sense of pride in who they're representing, because there's not a lot of ways to show other countries you're better. War. Okay.

[H]

Yep.

[A]

None of us want.

[C]

Nope.

[A]

Okay. Nobody. I don't think anybody on Earth. I don't know. I don't want to say that. I don't want to say that.

[B]

Undefeated, though.

[A]

I've been reading a lot. But on that note, it's like, war exists. Okay. Hate that. It does. Hopefully we get to a time where there's none of it that I think that would be incredible. But, like, sports are the way. Sports are really the way. So whenever these Olympics happen and America wins and these guys are drunk off of the emotions of being incredible and actually drunk as they're celebrating something that they work for. It's like, I didn't really just. Just the expectation of what that men's team was supposed to do in the moment. Immediately after being in Canada on a phone call with the president of the United States from some people to start. Like, I didn't. I'm just like, come on, man. Like, these dudes just wanted to prove that our country creates better hockey players than your country does. Our country is grittier than your country is. Our country is better. That is what athletes do. That is why I think a lot more athletic people have a lot more pride in the fact of usa and it's like, I don't understand the people that don't grow up in sports. I don't think I fully understand what they are. But it's like, man, whenever you win for your, it's huge. And I love that the boys celebrated. And I did not want it. I knew that it would. Because the video. Sure, I knew that the video would inevitably get out, but I didn't want to be the person to do it. As soon as I heard they were headed to 11 down there, whenever it was announced, I woke up and I was like, oh, gotta buy the boys a drink. So then I. I did this with Notre Dame whenever they were in Europe. I've done this with other teams that win. If they. If they tell the world, like, hey, this is where we're going. My natural instinct is like, gotta buy them a drink. Gotta do that. I had a lot of people in the comments that were, you know, mad about the US Men's team saying, did you buy the US Women's? I would have. I don't know if they. If I would have heard about something, I wanna let you know, I would have. I love when USA athletes showcase that we are the best in the world. I love everything about that. That is our world that we're from. So as soon as I hear about this, I get a chance to talk to people down there. Gino Harrison, Daniel Cam from the U is the one that kind of plugged it all together. Just felt like the right play felt like the right move. And it wasn't just. I felt legitimately as I was doing, like, this ain't for me. This is from America. Thank you for doing what you did, boys. And I'm happy they enjoyed the hell out of it.

[B]

The. The one thing that we haven't mentioned that felt like the most American women's and men's. They were both perfect on the power play.

[H]

Not.

[B]

They didn't give up one power play goal the entire Olympics. On both, including the five on three. Shout out. Vinny Trocheck, Pittsburgh legend, who I believe did get effed up that night, took

[A]

that video off the Internet.

[C]

But.

[B]

But the. That five on three, like, during that, that was the most, like, pride I've had in a. In a country team, a U.S. team in a long, long time.

[C]

That was awesome.

[A]

I was sweating it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I was like.

[B]

I was riding with a long five on three.

[A]

Now, granted, I have been in the middle of a U.S. canada political when the thing before.

[D]

Four nations.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah, that happened. Four nations and elimination chamber. And then, you know that's a WWE event.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And then all of a sudden, I'm dropped into a thing and it's like, oh, I didn't know it was like this right now. And then on that note, it's like, yeah, sports are supposed to be like this. This is what we're supposed to want to beat each other. Supposed to care. I mean, it felt like Sidney Crosby broke his leg out there for that team and he wanted to go out and play it. We need more of that. I love everything about that. Okay, let's pivot away from the olympics. Shout to NBC. By the way, I think they're up 97% or something.

[B]

Almost doubled the last.

[A]

Yeah. They're up 97% versus the last winter Olympics. Congrats to them on that. And Tirrico.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Hey, he can do it all Tirico

[C]

super bowl to that.

[A]

Unbelievable. There was like one night where I saw him bobble a stat in his head. And by that, it's just because I'm watching him talk and then I see him go to say something and then I saw him adjust. I saw him change in the middle of speaking just from watching him, you know, and it just says the smoothest. I'm like, oh, he didn't know where the hell he was going right there. And he just went immediately to it. Talking about a sport he's never heard of before, but he had to do research on. He was phenomenal, honestly. And his thing about sports, bringing people together and inspiring people. That's what sports are all about. And we're lucky to talk about him. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who owns an NBA team, a man who is friend of the program, a man who showed out in his celebrity NBA All Star game. If there was 10 of him on the court, everything would be entertaining. Ladies and gentlemen, the owner of the Suns, Matty. Brother. Appreciate you, dude. Yeah, absolutely. All right, buddy. Good to see you.

[D]

Appreciate you, man.

[A]

See, I didn't know for now, handshake there. Yeah. Because he's business.

[B]

Good to go last. I get to see what everyone else does.

[C]

Football player at heart, you know?

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[C]

Yeah. You know.

[A]

How are you, dude?

[G]

Doing great, man.

[A]

Doing great. You give me that up just a little bit. It's on your chin.

[G]

Gotcha.

[A]

Now it's on your nose.

[B]

Boom.

[A]

Hey. Trying not to do as much media. Trying to stay out of the tabloids, Trying to stay out of the headlines. But I'll tell you what, in your performance in that NBA All Star game, celebrity All Star Game, you got us through. We were off, obviously. So we're just trying to find things to pass through time. The Olympics helped us. You in that All Star Game. Bopping wood. Okay. Applying full pressure and then having a shot over 7 foot 7. Talk of while you're fading away.

[C]

Unreal.

[A]

Unbelievable performance out of you. I just need you to know that. How long did you know you were going to play in that? And I know you played at Michigan State. I know you were on Michigan State. Is Tom Azo still coaching you up for that All Star Game performance right there?

[D]

Oh, man.

[G]

Yeah, I had a great time. I knew for a couple months, but I knew if I didn't play the right way. Coach Izzo would be calling me. I'm still scared of that phone call. So I had a great time, competed, had some fun, made a shot or two. Had a fun time.

[A]

I think a lot of people found out though, that you're a basketball guy. So obviously we know you're a basketball guy. We know that you said if I had to mop the floors to be on the team, I would do that. And then obviously you're in the mortgage business with Family United Wholesome. Did you guys sell my mortgage? I think you sold my mortgage.

[G]

We might have. We might only sell the ones that we don't think are to pay us

[A]

anyways. You got a great business. I've experienced it.

[B]

All the kicks.

[A]

It's an incredible. Yeah, this guy's giving away a lot of money. Might be time to get out of that. He's saying some dumb. No, but obviously in the mortgage business, we assume dream as basketball guy is to own NBA team. How has it been? Because obviously it's been an interesting ride. You get Kevin Durant, you get a star packed team doesn't work out, now you got no picks. Now you're back in it All Star game. Feels like you won over a little bit with maybe your fans probably Phoenix Suns fans, probably pumped with what you performed. How has it been living out this dream?

[G]

It's exactly that. It's a dream. It's been the best thing ever. Obviously we went through some not great times when we got the team, but I got the women's team, the men's team, we're competing. I'm having the best time. I wasn't good enough to play in the NBA, but own a team is unbelievable because Now I'm at 46, I can still be involved, be engaged. And it's awesome because you also get to deliver things to the fans, do cool shit. Like that's like stuff we just haven't been able to do. And we can do stuff that other people don't do.

[A]

Okay. So on that note, whenever a general manager gets hired in the NFL, we say the general manager has always had a vision on what their team would look like. Then they get the job and what the old team is. There's no allegiances. I'm trying to build this in my way. You dream of NBA team, I would assume were you. Okay. And this, I don't want this to be a rude question, but owners meddling is always like a thing. Like, hey, you're a basketball guy though. Played basketball. So I think we Would want you to meddle potentially if you're an owner. But you guys didn't have success whenever you got over there. So people were maybe saying, this guy doesn't. How has that whole thing gone with your restraint maybe, or discipline or hands on, hands off. Like, how have you handled all that?

[G]

Yeah, well, right when you buy the team, everyone says, oh, don't meddle. Owners own the team, stay out of it, let the experts do their thing. And you know, I thought, okay, let me give some extra money. The team was already pretty good at that time. Let's put some luxury tax, let's go for it. And didn't work. Now I kind of stepped back and said, no, let's do it the right way. Let's build. Let's get toughness, let's get grit, let's get dogs, let's get guys that. My whole life I'm all heart, no talent. I want to get heart and sound. But we want this talent and we want guys that want to win, that want to compete every night and like, so we're building it and we're going to build it the right way and hopefully we're going to compete. We're doing pretty well this year, but we're going to keep getting better every day.

[A]

Okay, where you are right now, play in area, I think seven, eight. Now I've done some resource on this or research on this entire thing. I guess nobody in the NBA wants to be in the playing zone right now. Is that an accurate thing? Because and you put a tweet out about it, but it's like the guys obviously at the top of the league, they want to go win it all. It's great for the franchise. We're going to go for it and also attract a lot of free agents and everything like that. And then if you're in the middle, you're not going to be a part of the lottery. So you're going to have to pick your guys. Draft is hilarious. It's like after pick eight, like, and a guy, he's going to come over from Greece maybe five years from now. So it is an interesting dynamic with how the league is right with where your team is. You have no picks, obviously, but being in the play in zone is not necessarily a beneficial area. Like how do you kind of talk about where the league is right now? Because you put a tweet out talking about how we can't be a tanking league, which it seems like you guys kind of are. And if you do and you do it right, you benefit from it greatly. So how do you kind of view it all?

[G]

It's an embarrassment. It's horrible. Like my perspective is tanking is loser mentality. Like I've never been around anyone. You show me someone that wants to lose or thinks about losing, like, I'll show you a loser. That's losers. That's not my stuff. And so I don't like losing. I don't want to ever talk about losing. We try to win and best the draft works. If you don't win, you don't have a good team, you get a good pick. But if you purposely trade for players and then don't play them trying to lose games, like, I think it's bad for the NBA. I think it's bad. I think Adam Silver knows it. Organizations know it. It's got to change. It will change.

[A]

Okay, so Oklahoma City, I think would be an example. People would say they tanked for a while, like openly, but it was small market, I think so maybe nobody was paying attention as much. But then it ended up paying off. I mean they hit bang, bang, bang and they're about to be a dynasty. So how do you kind of fix that potential thing? Do you think that's a league overall situation that has to change the pro like, how do you think it's fixable or is it fixable?

[G]

It's fixable. And Adam Silver to credit him, he knows it's a problem, he's going to fix it. I believe he'll fix it. But you can't have teams like when you say they're tanking. It's one thing if you trade players and you're not a good team. And I'm not sure, I mean Oklahoma City, if you correct me if I'm wrong, I think they have only one player with a drafted over number nine, Chet Holmgren on their team. Everyone else is later in the draft. And so let's not like, you know, they built it, they did a good job. Give them some credit. It's not. They have the first pick three years in a row and that's how they became a great team. And so I think purposely losing in anything is the loser mentality. I can't stand for it. I don't agree with it and I think the other organizations realize it. But right now the problem is the incentives are misaligned. If you purposely lose, you get better players in the future, you have a better chance. And that just is not how I. That's not how I was brought up.

[A]

I respect, I respect that. Now you got a Lot of teams right now trying to get down. It feels like the NBA, it's almost like 20% of the league, you know, especially this year. It's a good draft as you're watching. Yeah. Because the draft is so good. But if they end up benefiting from it, then the next team, the next year is like well we could potentially. It's an interesting. Your guys league is fascinating. Best athletes, you know, they're seven foot tall, running around, doing the entire thing. It is a spectacle. It is incredible competition at its highest level. But it does feel like there's always some drama, bullshit around your guys league. Now on that note, it is now NBA time. Connor has a question for you.

[C]

Yeah, obviously yesterday was a tough one for the Suns. I don't know if you caught that, caught that one governor Ishbia but Celtics put it on you. But regardless of that, what is kind of the main thing right now when it comes to, you know, developing talent and also, you know, acquiring people. Because we talk about draft being important. Like it feels as though the NBA as a whole, you know, with the luxury tax and acquiring players, you're almost discouraged because you go into that first, second apron and then all of a sudden you know, you owe a ton of money. And you've said this before, fans don't want to hear owners talking about owing a bunch of money. Fans don't give a shit about that. Which is, you know, a huge reason we like you so much. Because you know that and that's the reality of it. But do you, does it feel as though the setup for, for team building does sometimes encourage, you know, getting more draft picks and getting, you know, a better draft position versus going out and spending money?

[G]

Yeah, I mean it's a combination now. It used to be a lot more free agency. Free agency is a little bit slower these days and so it's changed with that. Draft is a big thing these days, but also player development and developing players and finding good players like on our team, we got some guys that people didn't want. People didn't have Colin Gillespie, he took him on a two way. He's a great player now he's an NBA starter. Like you got to develop players as well. So I think team building is definitely through the draft right now. And that's why people are tanking. That's why people are doing that because they think that's the only way. But there's multiple ways to win and succeed and we're trying to prove that in Phoenix and we're, we're working on it. We got a ways to go.

[A]

You need to bop some wood. Everybody out there bopping wood like you were doing. How old are you?

[G]

46.

[A]

You look good. You put it on. Yeah. Sean's had a tough out. Sean's had a tough day.

[D]

We love Sean.

[A]

We love. Sean's more anybody, but we gotta call it like it is. He was on Giannis's team fresh off of what happened with Giannis, the entire thing.

[B]

That's a whole thing.

[A]

Then he kind of gets bullied by his friend, you know, it's not good. And I don't think he broke anything big. Yeah, it was like a yogurt for lunch.

[C]

Oh, for 10.

[A]

Yeah, it was not good. Next year. Hey, Sean's next year.

[C]

Sign up for the comeback.

[A]

And also next year, Giannis might want to leave again. I'm joking. I'm joking. AJ Has a question for you, man.

[D]

Yeah, I guess the NBA as a whole, I guess. Where do you think it is?

[C]

Like.

[D]

Like, we've seen different eras of the NBA. They say, okay, once Jordan and his whole generation goes, no one's going to watch anymore. And Steph and LeBron and this whole, you know, what do you see at the NBA as a whole, like, the next five to 10 years? And who do you think are some organizations right now doing things right, winning games the right way and kind of, you know, building up their team the way that you should?

[G]

Yeah. I mean, I think the NBA is in great hands. Obviously, there's this tanking thing we're talking about. There's always an issue, as you point out, Pat, Always.

[A]

Yeah, there's always something.

[G]

But you know what the truth is, the great. The league is in a great place. It's a great global game. People all around the world love it. They love the NBA. They love the players. We got star players from all around the world, and it's going to continue to grow and develop. It's not perfect. Nothing's perfect, but we're going to keep getting it there. I feel great about where the NBA is right now, even with some of those superstars you're talking about are retiring and moving on, are going to be retiring. But the great. There's a lot of great young players from overseas and Americans, and it's awesome

[A]

to see you watch every game in the NBA right now. What are the storylines that we need to be? Let's act. Not us, obviously. Yeah, we would never be.

[F]

But let's.

[C]

Let's say others. You're talking to people who have no clue what's Going on in the NBA.

[A]

Yeah. Just other people.

[C]

What is. Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Not us.

[B]

We've been watching football for six months.

[A]

Yeah. People that have just been. And then on a beach a little bit, watching Olympics.

[C]

Crushing. Crushing NBA tape. Like us.

[A]

Exactly. But no, no, we're talking about other people. Yeah. Other people. If they didn't know what was going on in the NBA.

[C]

Celtics are still great. Okay.

[A]

Suns are awesome. Gorilla did the dunk anything. What is like just. It's.

[G]

It's. It's playoff time now. It's going towards the playoffs. There's teams. The west is really strong right now. The Celtics have been a great surprise team in the East. The Pistons are good in the east, but the west is really deep. And you know, there's a lot of teams. It's really, you know, people going to. You don't think there's. Oh, there's only one team that's going to win it early in the season. They said OKC is dominating and they're going to be. I think there's five to eight teams that can win an NBA championship right now. And you know, it's going to see. And see what happens in the playoffs.

[A]

Okay. You got some injury issues. Right.

[G]

Going on right now. We do, but we're going.

[A]

Everybody does. Is that the NBA thing?

[G]

Everyone gets. Has to deal with it. We just got to play through it. We got guys that want to play and we'll get them out there.

[A]

Okay. Speaking of, Dylan Brooks, I believe was injured for you right now. Right. So the only way I know Dylan Brooks is because him and LeBron James always get.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

So now that I'm hearing the way you would like your team to be run a Michigan State team. Seems like he was perfect guy for you. Is that. Is that.

[G]

He was exactly what we wanted. We made the Kevin Durant trade. We want a dog. Dylan Brooks defines everything I believe in work ethic, leadership. He'll. He'll grind. He'll fist fight you, but he'll also make some shots. He does everything we want. We love Dylan. He's out for four to six weeks right now, but he'll be back before the playoffs and he's our guy.

[A]

Do you have a. Do you have a playlist? Is this yours? Hey, T.I. welcome back, by the way. It is absolute heat. T.I. it is so him doing a victory lap right now. Hey, T.I. congratulations, by the way, because I like my top is our generation. So watching him kind of come back, we'll let him know. Is a fantastic thing. Okay. So we just watched you at the All Star Game. So you got to play again next year, right?

[G]

We'll see.

[A]

I got.

[G]

I'm hosting at Holster Games in Phoenix next year.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So you have to play.

[G]

I gotta host you guys. I gotta host everyone there. We have a heck of a time.

[A]

It's gonna be great. Okay, so what does that mean, ownership? Like, how much does the NBA run? How much do you implement? Like, what is the kind of the. Like you're saying you're hosting the All Star Game. The league will tell you what's happening? Or do you have any say in how can this.

[G]

I have a say on how to make it great. You know, not the actual game part of it. Like how they do east, you know, versus west or world versus us. But I have a say. And how do we get great players in it? How do we make it a great event? How to make fan experience phenomenal? We're going to make it an amazing event.

[A]

Let's announce it right now. What we're doing for the slam dunk contest.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

You want to do it?

[G]

Let's do it. We can do it.

[A]

All right, tell me what we're doing. You're going to put a million dollars up for the winner and then a million dollar donation to a charity of their choice. Done. For the slam dunk winner.

[G]

Let's get the best guys in it. Let's make it awesome.

[A]

Okay. And then the three point shooting contest. We're doing a million dollars to the winner. Million dollars in a charity.

[H]

Hey, let's do it.

[A]

Show we're in on it with.

[I]

Let's do it.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Good negotiation right there. I might sell that deal to another company like you did with my mortgage. But I got it.

[G]

I'll take care of it. Let's do it.

[A]

I would like to be involved too, though. I would like to make it big because I love the All Star game is something that we have all loved.

[B]

You should be in it.

[H]

It.

[A]

Nah, I got. Okay, yeah.

[B]

Contest.

[G]

You play.

[A]

No.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

I'll be in the dunk contest. Give me that trampoline like the gorilla got and we'll keep it moving. Okay, so, million dollars to the winner for the dunk contest with a million dollar donation. And then a million dollars to a three point shooting contest with a million dollar donation.

[G]

I'm in. Let's do it.

[A]

Let's go.

[C]

Boom.

[A]

Let's do this. Now, boys, we need you to want to win a million bucks.

[B]

Do you have to run that by silk? Do you have to run that by Adam Silver.

[G]

Or I'm sure Silver will be supportive.

[A]

Adam Silver. Adam Silver doing that. All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, man.

[G]

Appreciate you.

[A]

Thank you for stopping by. We can do this more. We can do this more. I love it.

[G]

Anytime.

[A]

Okay. Sick. We appreciate the hell. Before you get out of here, we got. We need you to do something.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

You see it?

[D]

Fire that thing.

[A]

You see it's $100,000 donation on the line here. All right, you're coming right over here.

[D]

Matt, you gotta stand on the platform.

[A]

I'm trying to handheld on.

[C]

Careful.

[A]

Hello, Hello. Okay, yeah, come up here. Come up here. Yeah, don't. Don't bop wood and throw yourself out here. Okay. You will try to get this ball into that hole right there. This is called the Combine Charity Challenge. This is Combine Charity Challenge. Shout out to Matt Conti of the Indianapolis Colts and Lucas Oil Stadium in blue for having all these things available for us that we found out 35 minutes before the show started. This is what we'll do. You have three attempts at throwing that football. Watch up here. Watches. Jesus, Jes, don't get hurt.

[B]

His spatial awareness is really good.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Careful.

[A]

Bopping one. Yeah. Stepped out of bounds there. But if you put one of the throws through that hole right there with an elevation difference, we would donate a hundred thousand dollars to a charity of your choosing. You sound good. I love it.

[D]

Let's do it.

[A]

Can you throw a football? I can. Where are you from originally?

[G]

Birmingham, Michigan.

[A]

Oh, so you love hockey? It's good.

[G]

I like basketball, football, but hockey's all right.

[B]

Wait, how.

[A]

Jeez. Oh, foxy. We will talk about that later. Holy shit. Mike Frable's walking in here. Okay, so don't get nervous cuz Mike Vrabel's back there. Obviously the alpha of alphas. Congrats to you, coach. You're the man. Matt Ishby, if you make this ball into that hole right there, we'll go. Hey, good to see you, Vrabs. Hey, owner of the Suns. You think he has a chance of making it? You have three throws, Matt. Good luck.

[D]

He's going to watch.

[A]

Oh, okay. Okay. Here's second ball here. Second ball. Here's second ball. Here's second ball. You had the right height there, Matt. Now any adjustment that you would be looking to make here, it's declined.

[G]

So I got to throw it down a little further.

[A]

Oh, like a pitcher coming off a knee.

[D]

Maybe take a knee.

[A]

I don't know if we need to take a knee.

[D]

Oh, congrats.

[A]

We appreciate you, man. You are the best, dude. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Matt. Good luck, man.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Hey, good coaching, Braves. Good coaching, friends. I got the coach.

[C]

Thank you, Coach.

[D]

There he is,

[A]

warming up over here. Ladies and gentlemen, it is time to be joined by some of our favorite humans that exist on earth. Not just. Did. Did I just drop out right there? No, did you? Oh, there was an accident in truck. I just heard there was a full accident in truck. I think we're gonna have to go down one more here, too. You guys might have to lap up. Yeah, yeah, Tony. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tone. Yeah, yeah. Smart. Yeah, just go. Because I think we're being joined by OC as well. A lot of adjustment happening on the fly. Call it an audible. Justin Herbert, obviously legend. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, maybe the most entertaining group in the NFL, no questions asked. General manager, head coach and offensive coordinator for the chargers, Ortiz, Harbaugh McDaniel. Wow. Boys,

[D]

how are you?

[C]

This is great.

[A]

Daniel.

[C]

Good to see you, Coach.

[D]

What's up, Coach?

[C]

Coach.

[A]

Put her there.

[C]

Good to see you, Coach.

[D]

How are you?

[C]

Sunday Red. High five. Come on, let me get one.

[D]

Oh, Sunday.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

It's the second person I've ever seen

[C]

wear the other day. Yeah, that. That's a good. That's good sweatshirt.

[D]

Sunday Red.

[A]

Yeah, they're saying that's worth a billion or something. Hey, that's the first one I've seen in a while. Sunday Red. You use that or you want to use this? Your world. Literally your world. Anything you need, boys. Hey, thank you for joining us, guys. Good to see you guys.

[H]

Thank you. I recruited some friends.

[A]

Yeah. I appreciate this. Thank you for stopping by. Okay. This is becoming an annual thing. I assume you guys are on your way out.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Okay. On field workouts start tomorrow. All the interviews have already happened. How do you feel? All anybody's saying about you guys is if you get an offensive line, you're going to win a Super Bowl. Is that what is the mindset coming into this entire meeting session for you guys?

[H]

You know, yeah, we're looking at all positions and.

[B]

But, yeah, we definitely want to shore up the offensive line.

[A]

We got some. Some holes there.

[B]

Bradley retired and got some free agents on the other line, so definitely got to add to it, but excited about the week. Excited to be with coach again and

[H]

obviously adding Mike to the mix.

[B]

It's awesome, man.

[A]

We're having a lot of fun. Let's talk about that. What has been. First couple weeks like, I saw you guys had a game together. You guys are sitting next to each Other. I immediately pumped for your press conferences. Describing him as an offensive wizard is one of my favorite things that happened this offseason. How has the relationship gone, and how do you feel, Coach, going into the combine here?

[E]

Great. You know, just. Just really learning. I'm really just leaning into how Mike sees the game. It's. It's creative. It's. It puts. It puts defenses in a conflict and kind of like our players, there's just a lot of excitement to, you know, to learn everything that. That Mike knows. You know, that's really the main thing I'm leaning into. People keep asking me, like, you know, you're gonna start, you know, wearing, you know, the.

[A]

The kind of shoes that he wants or the, you know, the cool.

[C]

The cool jacket.

[H]

I wouldn't dress this way. Was up there.

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

You know.

[A]

Yeah. On the Ring of Honor.

[E]

Yeah.

[H]

Like, maybe.

[E]

Maybe I'll go to the. You know, the.

[A]

The wardrobe. Oh, my God. You showing up to a game.

[E]

I'm leaning into what he knows about football.

[A]

That's.

[E]

That's what I'm most excited about.

[A]

New O.C. new D.C. here. How's that affect your life?

[E]

You know, really good. Jesse mentor, you know, incredible coach. And Chris o', Leary, we just. We. We think we have, you know, just the great next. The next great coach. So just say it like that.

[A]

Let's talk about a great human. McDaniel, we love you as a human. Just as you changed the game, obviously, you came in with your quick shit and just flipped everybody's mindset whenever you did that. Hung 70 on that Denver. I mean, there was a lot of that. How has it been now getting into offensive coordinator role as opposed to maybe having everything that head coach has. How is life been for you, and how has the adjustment with Coach Harbaugh been going?

[H]

Awesome.

[A]

Really?

[H]

Period? Awesome? No, you know, I couldn't ask for more. You know, I think, you know, it's just been awesome to join what they're trying to do. There's a lot of overlap and belief and, you know, we're. We're coming to work every day, enthused, trying to go chase the same outcome. So I'm invigorated. I'm juiced up. You know, I am firmly aware that nobody. Nobody has it better than us. And I'm living that way every day

[A]

because it's often asked, who. Who does?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

All the time. Yeah.

[J]

Who?

[A]

Who? Everybody's wondering. And I'll tell you what, you look around, look at us right now. Nobody. Oh, nobody.

[E]

Yeah, nobody. And. And Possibly future us has a better.

[H]

You're right.

[A]

No, that's a good right that, you know, it's evolved.

[D]

What does that mean?

[E]

We got the chance for future us, Mike. And, and being here, being here at the combine, we just, we just don't feel like we're getting. We're getting worse. We feel like we're gonna get better. And you know, that's a big reason for being here this week. And yeah, it's just one day closer to our next win. That's how I'm approaching every single day and get the most out of it. So, you know that next win can come faster.

[A]

Yeah, current us is having a good time, but boy, future us, especially you guys if you piece. So last question for you here before I get to him trying to put pieces together for your offense, Herbert. Tell me about it. You know, he's a good punter. I don't know if you want to have him do that maybe.

[H]

Man, it didn't surprise me. No. You know, I think I look at a. Look at a player that has shown he can do everything on the football field and you know, Football is an 11 person game that, you know, there's a lot that coaches have to offer as well to help assist a player. I mean, I feel very fortunate to coach a player of his skill set and have high ambitions and. And you know, I think that that meets him where he's at and for what he needs to do to take the next step in his career.

[A]

He's special to waddle. He's so much fun to watch. I mean, he is so much fun to watch. Excited to see how that all comes together in your offensive vision. And on that note, Joe, how does that change your life with him being the offense coordinator? Like, obviously offensive line is important in any offense, but is there like things that you have to look for now that he's the OC as opposed to maybe before or you and Jim talk about. Because the new defense, like, how does that change your life?

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[A]

You know, and I think the great thing about Mike is when he came

[B]

in the first night he was in there, he was talking about he did things in Miami because that's who he

[A]

had on the team.

[B]

And so his adaptability and his creativity, so that.

[H]

That gets you.

[A]

These guys are closers, by the way.

[H]

That closed me fast. Yeah, it was, it was pretty cool.

[A]

Yeah, I could imagine. Yeah. The, the thought though, that the last time we talked to you, you were sitting just at. Got dropped. Look cool. He looks so cool. He had such A cool thing on you said you got to figure out what the next chess move is. You know, we changed the game, then defense caught up is what you said. Now we got to figure out what the next chess move is. I love that you're Queen's Gambit on the sky, you know, tripping balls, seeing new close Sicilian and kind of doing your thing. I cannot wait to see what you come up with, especially with what Herbert's able to do. AJ has a question. Yeah.

[D]

Coach harbor for you first. I guess when you're interviewing these guys, we hear about the interviews you have with these potential draftees that you're talking to. I guess what are you looking for? Do you care more about X's and O's and what they know about football or do you care more like hey does this person love football? Do they love the game? I guess. How do you balance all that?

[E]

Yeah, I mean it first started just, just the respect I've had for, for Mike, his offenses and, and we played him this year. I mean he got us on, on a look that nobody, nobody had gotten us on yet and made us go back and change what we were doing. Just, just things like that. I love the, the emphasis on the run game, on the, on the play action pass. Just the ability to get first down score points and thought we needed a fresh start and fresh start we got and now we're, you know, we're our defense.

[D]

We talked about that a little bit. Defenses do feel like we've heard all they're, you know, they're playing too high and they're, you know, you can't get over the top. Why I, I've always been taught as a young kid if they're playing too high you got to run them out the of it. I got to be able to run the ball.

[B]

Then you got to football cyclical.

[D]

Yeah, but like where are we at? I guess. Do you think with like the scheme wise schematically is defense to defense take a little step forward these last couple years?

[H]

I think they did. I think they. There was a lot of pre snap movement that they've patternized and been able to you know, force offenses to, to earn it. You know the, the, the percentages with which you know the shell two shell defenses I think across the league is about 40% where it was about 25 like a handful of years ago. And so they're doing a good job and there's ebbs and flows with that. It takes, you know, a couple teams that really take advantage of a light box to have Success and then people to copy that and patronize that and, you know, the game ebbs and flows. But I would say that the, you know, where the conversation went two years ago was that offense was ahead of defense.

[A]

Yes. And that's what I want to ask you about. You talk about pre snap movement. Should I. When we talk about what you did, is it the timing of your pre snap movement? Like, what was your differentiator? You think that you kind of threw a big wrench into the entire system?

[H]

Well, I think there was some really, really, really fast guys that defenses were going to try to reroute. So you found ways for them to struggle to reroute. And, you know, I think it's, I think it's both, you know, messing with defense as rules. There's a lot of people that have to communicate at one time. When one person, motion, motions, you change a strength and three people are flipping around and stuff, you change the timing of that and you're, you know, to me, like we've said, you're adapting to your players. And if you have an extreme skill set somewhere, gives you an opportunity to kind of lean into other things that teams aren't ready for, then they prepare for it. Then you think the next thing.

[A]

Man, I'm pumped to see what you do with Herbert. That's all I keep thinking of is like, what you're gonna do with Herbert. His first play. Okay. Tyrod Taylor got a golf tee shoved in his lung. Okay. That's what happened like five minutes before the game started. Just gotta. I can't breathe. Herbert, you're starting first play. Right down the sideline, runs the guy over right, just full on and then pops right back up, goes right in the, the, the huddle. And I think football fans, the, the huddle, I assume, and everybody was like, oh, this guy isn't just like a pretty boy from Oregon. Because the question was, can he do it? I'm excited to see what you do with him now. On that note. 87 million in cap space right now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wow, look at you. Wow. So you, you're in the bars here and.

[H]

No, no, no.

[A]

You're doing all the back door frenzy tampering.

[B]

We got some guys we got to

[H]

and then we're going to hit free agency, you know.

[A]

So you're definitely sending some text though, huh? How we feeling? What?

[H]

Nope.

[A]

87 million. What's that second most you got? The second most?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

People are sending you text for sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

How much money you got for me?

[A]

Third, Third highest. Third most. Good luck on that excited to watch you kind of do that. And for you, Coach Harbaugh, how do you feel about the state of the Harbaugh led Chargers? What? Like, how do you kind of look back on it since you've got there to where you are now?

[H]

You know, good.

[E]

But the thing that not good is that we're not playing our best football at the. At the end of the season in those playoffs. So, you know, just that focus, I mean, to, you know, that better and then best in the elimination games.

[A]

What is the. Do you already have the mantra or motto for the next season?

[E]

Not yet, no. I mean, I always think those kind of come on natural as.

[A]

Really. Okay, so you don't have like the three.

[E]

You really, you know, I mean, people do.

[A]

They do. Hustle, loyalty, respect, John Cena. That's what we're gonna do.

[H]

It'll. It'll.

[E]

It'll come to us as.

[F]

I'll naturally just hit you anytime.

[C]

Then you.

[D]

Do you, like, put it in your phone or something or write it down?

[H]

Yeah.

[D]

How's it work?

[E]

That just hits you when it hits you.

[A]

Okay, so you're not writing down any of your punch lines. You got to be. You got to think of something and be like, gotta remember that holy. When I drop the golden goose line on Justin Herbert, they're gonna love that. Or are you standing at the podium and you're like, we got the golden goose, and then just going, wow, golden gooses are interesting to think about, actually. And then go in that entire thing. Or are you writing those down like comedians would do?

[E]

No, we're just thinking about getting. Getting really good at football. And

[A]

that might be the most lying. We're just thinking, imagine Herb down there. We're just thinking about getting. Getting really good at football. Okay. That's all we need here. Coach, I saw you warming up over there. Oh, Would you like to do the throw here for a hundred thousand dollar donation?

[E]

Sure.

[A]

Would you each like to take one maybe? I don't know how many good arms we have.

[H]

I mean, he's played professionally at that exercise. I think his name.

[A]

Yeah, his name is on the right. You pointed that out. Have you ever seen 94 to 97? That's a four years.

[H]

I just impacted, right?

[C]

Yeah. That much?

[A]

Yeah. That's unbelievable.

[D]

Legendary.

[H]

Who else is doing that?

[A]

Nobody. Okay. Coach, how old are you? 62. Are you throwing every day?

[E]

Not every day.

[A]

We saw those videos of Pete Carroll. Running, throwing, doing all that. Are you that active at practice? We know you were cleats. Yeah.

[H]

I mean, I I.

[E]

If I. There's. If there's a ball near, I'm gonna pick it up and throw it.

[C]

Boom.

[H]

That's what you do.

[A]

Maybe that's the.

[C]

That might be.

[A]

Pick it up and throw. Pick it up and throw it. Obviously we've seen you play cat with the warm ups. We've seen you beat the shit out of Justin Herbert before the game. Oh, oh. We still got the ball control. I like that, coach. If you make it in that hole right there. $100,000 donation to a charity of your choosing here in the combine. Charity challenge.

[C]

They move it back a little.

[A]

Man, he was warming up. 62 years old, head coach of the Chargers. Yeah, I am worried it's going to fall. So let's do this quicker than, than, than slower. Oh, okay. First one a little low. Throw it in. A hundred thousand. You're pissed about that first one. I know it is. Yeah, man. Still 100,000. That's good. Hey, dude.

[H]

And it was. That was a good miss.

[A]

That was in line.

[H]

It was a hair low.

[E]

Low.

[H]

You adjusted for the second rep. You

[C]

know, it was such a bummed out high five.

[A]

I felt bad. You should be proud, dude.

[H]

It's such a supreme flex.

[A]

All right. Hours ending here. They saw you awesomely earn a hundred thousand dollars to charity with your name on the building.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

We appreciate you, coach. We appreciate you, coach Joe. Good luck this off season. Thank you guys for stopping by. Safe travel is back. The next season season of the NFL kicks off here in Indianapolis, Indiana at the combine. Our two will be on the other side. We got Jesse Minter joining us. Great, man. They're saying we're gonna like them. I assume they're a little. Yeah, they're pumped. He's out there. It's a good coaching trip.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

All right. We'll see you on the other side. Be a friend. Telephone. Something nice might change their life. Take five.

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[C]

Football. I went all in. I went balls to wall. Okay. It's hard. It's hard to hear.

[B]

Is that why you were.

[C]

There was a little thing or was

[B]

it the time there was a little thing?

[A]

Yeah, the timing was bad. Like, I don't like what just happened there.

[C]

We're missing Ty. We're missing Ty because Ty usually gives us a nice football right here.

[A]

Ty, we will see you a few days. We love you, brother. As the Chargers exit. Safe travelers. Chargers.

[B]

I think it was our green dot.

[A]

Yeah, there's a chance. The middle linebacker. College football national champions. Your Bull champion Rocket cup winner, aj. Hulk, I don't like what you did there.

[D]

No. I might have been a bit. A little a beat late, I think.

[A]

Is that a confidence issue? Like what is it? No, not at all.

[D]

Actually. Very confident. That's why I waited. I let it breathe a little bit and then I went, no, no.

[A]

Aren't you in the zone getting in a flow state? Just kind of let it happen. There shouldn't be any thinking. It should just be taking place. Would come off a break, you know, maybe got a little ring rust

[B]

versus R situation.

[D]

Yeah, I might be right. I don't know.

[A]

You're out there on the seas.

[D]

Let's see how the next one works. Hour goes.

[C]

To be completely honest, to AJ's point, when we came back all of a sudden, what? Where's the gym shot?

[A]

You know what?

[C]

We zoomed in on the field. Some creative. I would go.

[A]

I would go to Scott here as.

[C]

What the hell was that intro?

[A]

Creative liberties. Hey, listen, Scott's been with us through a lot. Okay.

[C]

That's true.

[A]

What he wanted to showcase, I think. I don't want to get into his Cajun brain diner, but I think what he was thinking is the action has begun here at the combine at Lucas Oil Stadium. That's Boston. Connor AP Tone is here as well. And obviously we are live from the NFL combine here in Indianapolis, Indiana. It'll be the home here for at least another two years, marking 41 years of Indianapolis being the host of the NFL Combine. We love it here in this city. We are built for it. Obviously all the hotels are closed, all the restaurants are closed. The stadium, everything's connected. We are thankful and lucky that this happens in this city. And we are also pumped that the next NFL season has officially begun. Now you can gamble on the combine.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

If you're itching and you're looking for it, there is gambling abilities on the combine. But I don't think it's just gambling on the combine. It kind of is the story of the combine Tone. What are most people moving money on whenever it comes to betting on guys trying to earn jobs in the NFL?

[B]

Yeah, you're looking at it here. A lot of things that you can bet on. The 40 yard dash, the 20 yard shuttle, the three cone drill, obviously the bench press, the vertical and the broad jump. Those are. Or obviously if someone will set a record for the 40 yard dash which was 4, 2, 1 with Xavier Worthy. So I wanted to start with the 40 yard dash. That's. It's the most popular thing. That's where I wanted to start the over under for this is 4.265. Okay, that's flying. Last year's fastest time was 4:28. So this would have gone slower than 4:265. Last year I did some research. Okay. Xavier Worthy, when he ran his four two one, he was running 24.41 miles per hour.

[A]

Okay, that's fast. That's speeding in some school zones.

[F]

Okay.

[B]

Then I tried to find what 4.265 translated to. That's 23.7 miles per hour. Dre Archer, former Pittsburgh Steeler, was running 23.7 when he. When he ran a 4.26 here at the club.

[A]

I like what we're doing here. This is good research.

[B]

So then you go and you take a look at everyone in the combine. And I used, oh, his name is blanking on me. I apologize. Bruce Feldman. He did a freaks list for college football before the season. And in there he showed that Chris Hilton. Hilton Wide Receiver from LSU right here. You look at him right here, he's an absolute freak athlete at LSU. He ran 23.7 miles an hour. So that's the exact same as Street Archer. That's putting him at a four two six range. Okay, then my other guy, Brennan Thompson, he's a track star in high school, ran a 101 8-100-meter in high school. He also ran 23.7 miles an hour. So that's putting these guys both at around 4.26. That's why I decided, you know what we get out here on this coconut hut.

[A]

Oh.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

This was in pads too.

[A]

Excitement.

[B]

We go no pads.

[D]

We go sprinter.

[B]

St. We go out here, they might

[D]

run a 4:1 in no pads.

[A]

And guys, humans are getting faster.

[B]

They are getting faster. So I decided to go faster than the 4.265.

[A]

Okay, so I like that bet. I like that bet a lot, Tone. And that's fun too. That's wishing for success. That's like betting. That's like betting it over on a game that you hope offense is going to happen. If we got somebody running faster than 4265, I mean, that's an electrifying combine, AJ.

[D]

Yeah, everybody seems to be getting faster at every single position. I mean, we might see D line four fours.

[C]

Oh, yeah, sickle cows.

[A]

Remember, I think linebackers are starting to get bigger.

[D]

Oh, yeah, you're right. Well, and now guys are like hybrid. Are you an edge guy? Are you an off the ball linebacker? All of that as well.

[A]

Because remember, I mean, McDaniel there is a trail trendsetter. Him. He is a trendsetter in the NFL. That guy right there, super cool jacket. Obviously glass is always going to be. The moxie is going to be through

[C]

the roof, the shoes.

[A]

Oh, everything.

[C]

Never even seen a parallel.

[A]

But he is one of the ones.

[E]

Ones.

[A]

McVeigh, Shanahan, McDaniel. There's a couple guys that kind of set the tone on what the offense is going to be. He's Kelly Moe, I guess we could probably say now down there, down in New Orleans.

[C]

Kubiak.

[A]

Probably the next one up there. Yeah, yeah. With the Raiders now. So there's like guys that set the tone on what it is. He's very clear. Like, hey, cyclicality, Cyclicality. It's like, it feels like it's going to get big again. So this might be the last. Like, everybody's ridiculously fast because it might go back to like, hey, if you're a linebacker and you're on a 45 it's not like you're dead or like it used to be within the last 10 years, if he's running 4, 6, 47 can't be on an NFL field because there's too much speed, there's too much space. But now, because everybody gets small and fast, offenses are going to be like, all right, well, let's go ahead and pound these dudes. So it's a, it's an interesting dynamic that we'll kind of get a sense for here at the combine.

[C]

I mean, look at the last two Super Bowls even.

[D]

My bad.

[C]

But the Eagles running teams, Saquon Barkley, you know, Jalen Hurts, of course, the Tush push. And then the Seattle Seahawks, the Seattle one. I mean, the Super Bowl MVP was Kenneth Walker, you know, like running the football in between the tackles. That is very much back. So when we're talking about speed, especially at a linebacker position, like, you do need to bring a little more beef,

[A]

a little bit more thump, a little bit more pump, a little bit more pound, a little couple more ounces. That's what we're gonna find out. But I do believe I like the way you've gone with. Well, if you put the radar Exactly. He's going 23.

[B]

And I picked traffic track guys. I picked freak track guys. Another couple.

[A]

And there's probably some corner that we did not bring up.

[B]

Damani Jackson, he was a five star out of California. He went to Bama. He was setting records at track back in California when he came out. And then obviously, you know, pawns is. Pawns is someone. IU corner is someone to watch too. In the 40. He is quick, fast someone to watch there.

[A]

Okay, so I think we all like that. It's not a guarantee. No, no, I, I think we all say we like that one.

[B]

That one.

[A]

That's a fun one too.

[B]

That one's, I guess get why they set it at 426 because, you know, 23.7 miles per hour, that's what that equals.

[A]

You're basically.

[B]

I use formulas for this next one too. Okay. The. The bench press 220, 225. How many times can you do it? Okay, 35 and a half is the over under for this one. Last year the highest was 32. So a bit of a down year last year. Definitely would have gone under last year for the 32. This one has a, has a equation as well. A.J.

[D]

i'm taking the over. I don't even care about your equation. I'm taking the over over.

[B]

There's an epley equation, it's 1 rep max equals whatever equals how many times you would do 225. There are three Alabama offensive linemen who all bench press over 500 pounds. Kaden Proctor, Parker Brailsford and Jaden Roberts. They all have 520. 505 to 535 bench. Okay, that equals 35 plus reps. Every single time I think one of those Alabama offensive line, I'm gonna do it. Peter Woods, a defensive line from Clemson, is. Has. Is on record doing 34. And then Gabe Jack, as he's outside for outside edge for Illinois, he's done 30 plus as well. And that is. That is documented. So there's five guys who I think could potentially go over 35 and a half. So I'm gonna go over for the 225.

[A]

36 reps of 225 is insane.

[D]

AJ it is so much. And the best part is it doesn't really matter at all.

[A]

No, it doesn't really care for this.

[E]

For this.

[B]

It does.

[C]

That's the point.

[D]

For our egos and everything, yes, it does care. But there's never been a coach that

[A]

says, hey, this guy, you know, this

[D]

DN ran a 4, 2 5. His eldrill was beautiful. Everything. He's super quick, but he only got 19 reps. 225. And we're not going to take him. That doesn't happen.

[A]

Yeah, well, you know, the El draw. I've heard some great stories in the past. People kind of managing clean lane.

[D]

I need clean path. I really do.

[A]

Hey, Bob Carpenter.

[H]

Good story.

[A]

Thank you. Thank you. Bobby Carpenter. Thank you for always being the General. I don't know if the boys in the truck got to hear the this. Before the show went live, we heard about General Bob Carpenter's workout at Ohio State. Bobby Carpenter a part of the legendary linebacker crew at Ohio State of Schlage. Hawk Carpenter, Marcus Freeman, also in that room, an incredibly legendary crew. Luke Fickle was the coach. He's currently at Wisconsin, we think. Luke, come on back. Luke, we need you in football. Okay. Good luck to Wisconsin.

[C]

Good luck.

[A]

But a lot of these guys want to put their best foot forward, you know, both on the field and how they present themselves. No doubt the General Bob Carpenter said, move this Eldrill, there's two. This is too worn done for me. And was telling the NFL scouts he's going to have to adjust that there's different levels of confidence, but there is a way that everybody. Brandt Boyer just walked by. Good to see you. Special teams coordinator for the Niners. You're the man, Brandt. Hey, get away from that electromagnetic thing. Okay, Substation, watch those knees and those ankles. But, like, everything's being. Everything's being judged.

[D]

Everything.

[A]

Like, literally, how you walk through the hallway, how you talk to the people on the field, how you go after your rep, how you stretch. It's like. It's crazy how much every single thing that you do is being scouted in, judged.

[D]

AJ it is. I mean, it's the ultimate job interview. And think about if you're a coach or GM and you're thinking about spending millions of dollars on a player. Like, if I see him throw his bottle away and it's clangs off the rim. That's one question. Okay. He can't play basketball. He's not that good of an athlete. But if he leaves it on the ground and doesn't pick it up and put it back, like, that's going to legit have an impact on people.

[A]

For some people, every.

[D]

Yeah, for some people, not everybody, but everything is being watched, no matter what. But I think the greatest thing. All you can do, be yourself, be authentic. You can't. You can't be coached up. A lot of times you go to these draft gurus that try to tell you how to speak to these coaches and what to do. I think be yourself, whoever that is, show that to the coaches, show them you love ball, and that's all that matters.

[A]

All right, we have a man who's a head coach for the first time in the NFL. He's a national champion in Michigan, goes over the Chargers, easily picks up the NFL game, and now he's being tasked with being Lamar Jackson's head coach, Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the Ravens. Jesse. Hey.

[D]

This thing.

[A]

Just stand up.

[D]

Coach, how are you? See you.

[C]

How you doing, Coach?

[B]

Good to see you.

[A]

Handshakes. Very Caucasian boys.

[C]

Well, clean beard.

[A]

Yeah. Clean Ravens, too. You know that.

[C]

Yeah. True.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Scumbags.

[E]

Normally.

[A]

No, not true at all. That's not true at all. Hey, good to see you, man.

[F]

Good to see you.

[A]

Congrats on being a head coach. Appreciate that.

[C]

Let's go, coach.

[A]

Hey, that's awesome. You know, obviously, you make the jump from Michigan to the NFL with Harbaugh and la, Obviously, the conversation is, Jesse Minter is a wizard at defensive side of the ball. Is it going to work in the NFL? Then what you do with Derwin James, what you do with that entire defense, immediately puts your name into conversations for head coaching. Are you ready for it? Do you feel like. Why do you think you're Ready to be a head coach. And what is your expectations now that you have the Baltimore Ravens gig?

[F]

I definitely feel prepared.

[A]

Well, I mean, that's a bad question, but, like, why do you think you are ready for that situation?

[F]

You know, the last two years, I would say going from Michigan back to the NFL with Jim and being. Being at. With the Chargers as he was trying to, you know, kind of kind of claim an identity, build something. So being there with him his first year, I think really started to allow me to be prepared for this. I think the second year, Jim and Joe Ortiz, who I know, I think they were both just on.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[F]

They both really, you know, took a lot into helping me be prepared for this moment. So they gave me a lot of insight. They let me be involved in a lot of different types of things in the organization to help me be prepared. And now that I am, you know, their advice is just go be yourself. You're ready for this, and go be you.

[A]

Tell me about Bishotti. Okay. We didn't know much about him. Your wire's on. Your mic. Can use. Yeah, it's. No, it's up underneath the thing. Up in the thing? Yeah. Just move it down the wire. Down. I got you. I got you.

[B]

Perfect.

[C]

They're fickle. Yeah.

[A]

It's not your fault. 100. Our fault. These wires do kind of do their own. Yeah,

[F]

I like that.

[A]

Yeah. He said, you got to figure that out. Okay, so let's talk about Bashani a little bit. We don't really know much about him other than he needs to be on a microphone more. Yeah. The man that. That is what we expect. He rightfully so said, hey, I'm good at. I'm good at my job. Let me. Okay. I can hire people. I can kind of figure it out. What was the interview process like, and why, ultimately, do you think he decided that you were the right guy to be the steward of the Baltimore Ravens with Lamar Jackson and a loaded talent after an incredibly long run by John Harbaugh.

[F]

Yeah, I mean, number one, I think he's the best owner in sports. He creates an environment where you're always going to be, you know, doing what's needed to be successful. So there's. There's not any amount of money, he's not willing to spend, any type of thing you need to, you think might help you be better. He's providing. So. And then through the interview process, I think there was a little bit of, you know, this guy understands the foundation that's been built here, but he's Also now been out on his own and has some different ideas of how to, you know, bring. Bring a few new things, while also understanding and respecting the history, how it's been built, why it's been built a certain way. And so we certainly want to lean into that. We want to lean into what's been really good there. But I also think just having a younger, newer, fresher thing, sometimes new messages, people embrace change, definitely.

[A]

And I think Baltimore Ravens fans are excited. I don't think. I don't know if they expected you to necessarily be, especially because Lamar Jackson is your quarterback. Whenever you think about being the head coach of a team that has Lamar Jackson, how that has to feel.

[F]

Pretty amazing.

[A]

Yeah. Not that Herbert, obviously. We love Herbert and we think the same thing about Justin Herbert. We think he is a fantastic player. But you're Lamar Jackson's head coach, especially at this level where his arm is maybe best in the league. Obviously, he's still Lamar. It. How does that kind of. I don't motivate you, inspire you? How have you handled that relationship?

[F]

I would say it's certainly motivating to, number one, build a team that allows him to. To have success at the level that he's chasing. There's nothing more that he would rather do than to bring a championship to Baltimore. And so when you know that he's your quarterback, you always have a chance. Motivating to build a great defense. Motivating to hire a great offensive staff. Motivating to build a great special teams so that the team around him is, you know, up to his level.

[A]

He's so much fun to watch. Go ahead, A.J.

[D]

i guess your first time being a head coach in the NFL, I. At the combine, what's it feel like?

[J]

You're.

[A]

You're.

[D]

The few short days you have been here, is there a different energy coming in? Like, what does it feel like for you?

[F]

Yeah, it's definitely a little different, but it haven't, you know, haven't been here a few times. There's at least, like, the familiarity of how it all works now.

[D]

You're the big guy, though, a lot more.

[A]

Every conversation, hey, every combo you have now is the most important combo that

[F]

people have a lot more media obligations. I would say.

[A]

Thank you for doing our show, but that's, That's.

[F]

That's the fun stuff. But, you know, it's just like getting a chance to evaluate everybody, not just the defensive player, all the offensive players, getting a feel for what makes them go, you know, in those short meetings, it's just A touch point. It's just like, can you gain a

[D]

lot from those short meetings with these players?

[F]

You know, I think you can gain a little bit. And so. But a little bit is better than nothing. And I would say that they're, you know, most of these guys are well prepared. You know, they have these people that like that.

[D]

Do you want them well prepared like that or do you want to just be in them?

[F]

I think you try your best to get them off of the well prepared

[D]

script, their guru that coached them up

[F]

and talk a little bit and find out a little bit about maybe something that makes them go, something that makes them, that motivates them. And these guys, you know, every. Everybody's been great. You can certainly. There's levels to a really good interview and then there's guys that may not know certain detail as much as you'd like to see. So try to. If you can get a little bit from it, I think it's worth doing.

[A]

Mike Tomlin has said in the past that the AFC north is the kitchen and it's hot in the kitchen. There is a lot of tradition and a lot of history in the AFC north, especially with a lot of rivalries, a lot of change as well. Go ahead, Tom.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

With all due respect to the Browns and the Bengals, it's been the Sealers and Ravens for 20.

[A]

Hey, Steelers fan. Jesse.

[B]

Yes, I am. And like when you're at the combine and when you're doing the draft and, and you look at guys, it used to be a thing. I think it still is a thing. You're like, that's a Raven, that's a Steeler. And you being used to being with the Ravens, is that how you're going to go into this? Because it felt like the Ravens defense was not as disruptive last year as it has been in the past. Like, that's literally what they are. That's what the Ravens are. That's what the Steelers are. So when you go in there and you talk about, you know, you know how this was built, but you're going to bring in some new things. Are you still going to be like this guy, this is a Raven guy, and that's what we're going to be on the defensive side or.

[F]

Yeah, I definitely think that guys that play a certain style, play a certain way, fit Baltimore. It'd be crazy to go away from that, you know, with what's been so successful. And you look at really the obvious probably over the history of the last 30 years, the two organizations whose, when you think defense you know, you kind of think those two teams and so we feel like there's a lot of work to do to get back to that while also doing it maybe a different way, doing it with the new age style, the new age defensive system, maybe a different philosophy, but certainly want to play Ravens defense at the end of the day.

[A]

Jesse mentor defense is also good. Hembo sent us some stats here on your defense when you're at the Chargers. 23% pressure to sack rate, that's the fourth highest in the NFL. 70% zone usage, second highest rate in the NFL. 55% too high safety usage which is second highest rate. Feels like you like your dogs to do your dog stuff. Go ahead, Connor.

[C]

Yeah, and you got an all pro at safety, Kyle Hamilton. I think we asked you about this when you first got the job, but how special is it to have a chess piece like that? Was that an attraction for you? I mean first head coaching job. So no matter what, you know, it's going to be incredible. But when you think about the guys that you have, those pieces that you have, is he the most integral part is, is he the one you've kind of been talking to as you've taken over the head gig and where do you kind of envision him and using him this upcoming season?

[F]

Yeah, you know, I classify him as a defensive weapon. Like there's guys that play positions, there's guys that play three technique and that's what they play. There's guys that play corner and that's what they play. There's guys that you can move anywhere within the defense and they can be really effective. And the closer you have him to the point of attack, the more impactful he can be. And so the goal on every play will be to, you know, take advantage of Kyle's skill set, have him as close to the action and as impactful as he can be, try to have him be disruptive. Had a guy similar with LA and Derwin and so, you know, couldn't be more excited to have Kyle be able to work with Kyle.

[A]

You can have a couple Kyle's and Kyle Van Noy would love to go back.

[C]

Yeah, he's a great player.

[A]

I think he's been losing his leverage publicly every time he talks about it business wise. But he still got it. The way he talks about that defense and like that building, it's like there's a lot of pride from those folks obviously as there should be excited to see what you're able to do because this last year the conversation was his defense not Gonna be able to win for him. It's like the Raven.

[J]

Correct.

[A]

That is never the convo. But whenever you think about that. Lamar.

[C]

Yeah. Derrick Henry.

[A]

Oh, I mean, he's untackled. And where Fountain the youth summer. He's still running harder than everybody. Are you guys gonna win a Super Bowl, Jesse? Is that what's about to happen right now or the ball?

[F]

That's the plan.

[A]

It has to be right?

[F]

That's the plan.

[A]

Everybody has to have that mindset.

[F]

That's right. And you have to. But you know, you can talk about that and you can say that we want our fans to have expectations of us to win the super bowl, but really it's about creating standards, creating an environment, creating a day to day process that allows you to do that.

[A]

Yeah, I'm excited to watch you guys do it. That A.J.

[G]

yeah.

[D]

How much of coaching, especially defense, I guess, is finding, taking your team the talent that you have and then kind of crafting the defense around them and not trying to jam them into whatever your scheme is? I say this because I remember back in the day your dad was coaching at Cincinnati. I still remember being in person watching these tall, I think, converted receivers playing dn, literally jumping over running backs to get to the quarterback. And I just, that I don't know how old I was watching it, but I remember that and think, oh, that's how you use your athletes. And I assume you want to do something like that.

[F]

I think that's what coaching is. I mean, you know, it's. What do you have available? How can you best put them in position to be successful and do the things that they do really well? I really think that's the job of a coach on any position, any phase of the game. Offense, defense, special teams, is to create a system that allows you the flexibility. Your best player is a three technique. Let's have some stuff that really takes advantage of him. Your best player is a corner. Let's have some things that take advantage of him. And so over the last four years of doing this really, this scheme, you know, it's almost been a different player, you know, at different times. And so. So that's the goal that we have and that's what we'll try to do.

[A]

Your dad's still working with you, huh?

[F]

He is, yeah. Senior defensive analyst, living the dream.

[A]

So. Okay, so you boss him around?

[F]

Yeah, sometimes.

[A]

That's awesome. Hey, go.

[D]

When did that switch, when did that flip where you could start bossing him around?

[F]

The first time was in 2016. I was a DC at Georgia State. And he. This was really the first time he decided he was with the Eagles with Chip Kelly prior to that, ended up in that coaching cycle, looking for something to do, decided to come down there and coach our defensive line, which he had never done, which was, you know, kind of a fun challenge for. For somebody like him. And so it's kind of been that way ever since.

[A]

Okay, hold on. Because we just saw this not work in Tennessee.

[C]

Yeah, not at all.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. That did not. That did not go great. Great. I'm sure there has been times in the past where it's worked out very well.

[B]

Plenty.

[D]

The.

[C]

The Kiffins, not NFL, but Lane and Moni.

[A]

Yeah. I just love the thought of your dad looking at you going, I'm not doing that. Yeah, I think you're. You know, I'm not. I'm not going to do that. Speaking of doing something, there's been a staple on the Baltimore Ravens for a while now, obviously, conversation taking place. Go ahead, Tone.

[B]

Yeah, Coach. The. A lot of people. Number one one free agent out there, Linder Baum. I don't know how much you're involved with negotiations or stuff like that, but have you gone to his house yet and said, hey, we would love to have you back?

[F]

Or I would say that he knows how we feel about him.

[A]

What do they do for Jason? Kelsey keg of beers. They sent him a little gift.

[F]

Yeah, he. He knows how we feel about him. He's one of the best in the business. He's maybe the best center, one of the best lineman, period. Major part of. Of the team the last few years. You've really seen them develop into that, you know, since they drafted him. Guy we'd love to have back.

[A]

You have your headphones on. I don't know if you have any cauliflower ear. He. He really good wrestler, too, if you want to start dancing with him. Okay. McDonald, obviously, with what he was able to do in Seattle. Defensive genius. Okay. Offensive wizards had their run. You defensive gurus seemingly having a run right now as head coach. What McDonald's able to accomplish in Seattle so quickly, I think we're all incredibly marked, marveled by unbelievable work. They put out a video of his first team meeting, and he said, I want you to close your eyes and think something. It's going to be late January. It's going to be in the 30s. It's going to be rainy, shitty for them. Just right for us. And then two years. I think he was nine months off or. He said nine months. He was 12 months I forget what it was. Nine months off, maybe, because he said it was going to happen in first year. It happens in the second year. He obviously looks like a genius. Have you envisioned what this first team meeting is going to be like? Like, have you envisioned a message? How many times have you practiced it in the mirror? Or like, how do you kind of handle that first message to the team? Because obviously, you know, that's very important because we as players can immediately see, oh, this guy's scared. Oh, this guy doesn't really have a plan, can't read the notes, obviously have to talk directly to the people. How many times have you thought about that and how excited are you for those moments?

[F]

Yeah, I've put a lot of thought into it, and that's exactly. To me, it's laying out a vision for what's about to happen. Some big picture where you're looking all the way to the, to the super bowl, some where it's maybe just, hey, like, we're going after small, small wins every day. And so I think it's a combination of that. But we certainly want the guys to understand where we're headed, but also what it's going to take to get there.

[A]

AFC seems like there's a lot of turnover, seems like there's a lot of potential question marks, but it's very, very deep. Go ahead, con man.

[C]

Yeah, deep. And one thing we were just talking to Mike McDaniel about actually now, OC, the Chargers was kind of how the, you know, football is cyclical, of course, but two years ago, offenses were way ahead. And then to what Pat just said, you know, the defensive coaches, you guys, McDonald, huge run. Now it's kind of going the other way. When you see guys at the combine and when you just see kind of schemes and things of that nature in the NFL now, does it feel like it is swinging back to kind of bigger, you know, players and also defensive being more of a focal point?

[F]

Yeah, it's definitely. It definitely goes in cycles, and it's a copycat league, and so teams try to emulate what's been successful. You look at the Eagles two years ago, line of scrimmage, great defense and a defense really young and built through the draft. They had. They had a really young defense in 24. They added one or two really key pieces. And then you look at Mike's defense this year, and it was a little bit more. They drafted a D lineman again a couple years ago, and Murphy, who had a. Who's had a great second year. And so the O line And D line driven teams, I think is back, you know, but. And I also think, like defenses, the explosive play metrics have kind of flipped because everybody's, you know, more too high, more shell and so. But if you're going to do that, and that's what we want to do, you want to not let. Let them throw the ball over your head. You got to be really big and strong up front and be able to still stop the run at times without maybe throwing extra people down there. So I definitely think it's a copycat league and more and more people are going to be trying to build like that.

[A]

4 ones on D line, right? That's what you need.

[F]

That's right.

[A]

You need four ones. We need seven. 14 eyes. We need 14 eyes to be able to watch everything else. We need the D line to win, right?

[F]

That's right.

[A]

That's kind of who's been winning.

[C]

Yeah. And that was a big thing for the Raiders Ravens this year, was Matabk couldn't play.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He was out the whole. The whole year. You know those.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe you get down there. Something to think about.

[F]

I don't know if that would help us, man.

[A]

Congratulations, man.

[F]

Thank you.

[A]

You should be incredibly pumped.

[F]

There's only 32 of them fired up.

[A]

Bashadi, I don't think gets it wrong either. No, I feel like he knows just from listening to him talk. One time, I believe.

[B]

I believe his Last coach was 18 years.

[A]

Have you met Butter or Stavi yet?

[F]

No.

[A]

You need to.

[E]

Oh, okay.

[C]

Get him on your side.

[A]

You want Butta on your side?

[F]

Okay.

[A]

You would like Stavi on your side as well.

[F]

Gotcha.

[A]

And his cousin, you would like. Yes, certainly. Definitely his cousin.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

You would like them on your side. I'm excited for them to ride along the wave with Jesse Manter. They will be your biggest advocates when you guys win.

[C]

Put Joe Flacco in the hall of Fame.

[A]

If you do that, they will do the entire thing. So I'm excited, excited for you to kind of take over in Baltimore. Such a good football town, man. Such a good football city. Such a good team, such a good organization, and Lamar Jackson deserves a Lombardi. I'm excited to see how quickly you can get that job done. Congrats on it. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach of the Baltimore Average, Jesse mentor Now, Jesse, before you get out of here, Jesse, can you throw or no? Yeah, we'll see you throw to dbs and. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Let's go. Let's go. All right, let's go. All right, Jesse. Jesse, Minter, head coach of the Baltimore Ravens, former DC Of Michigan Wolverines. Had been with the Ravens before. Had been in college before as well. Don't like the slant. Kind of Siciliano ing you right now. Jesse minter is a 5 foot 10, 6 foot tall man. Okay. It is not a slant's getting you right now. Yeah, I don't like it at all. Use the sky K. Jesse, if you were able to put that foot. Are you a lefty?

[F]

Lefty.

[C]

Oh, lefty, Jesse.

[A]

Okay, coming in from the. Let me stand on this side. Yeah, me. Get the hell out of the way.

[B]

There you go.

[A]

How old are you, Jesse?

[F]

42.

[A]

You throw every day at practice?

[F]

No.

[A]

Do you put the cleats on like Jim and kind of run around?

[F]

I do not.

[A]

Do you work out on a daily basis?

[F]

I do.

[A]

What do you do?

[F]

A little workout, a little weight room, a little peloton, a little mix up.

[A]

You got a peloton in the office?

[F]

Not in my office yet.

[A]

It's going to be there though.

[F]

Potentially.

[A]

It feels like that's what you guys do because you can still watch film. I. I could still do get my sweat on here, but the one down

[F]

in the weight room, I'm good. I need a little break from the office.

[A]

I like that. New scenes, new vibes, new ideas. How about a hundred thousand dollar donation? If you're able to put that football into that hole right over there. It has not been conquerable on the first attempt yet. Okay. Myself missed it. Jim Harbaugh missed it. We think you are going to make it if you're able to put on the first $100,000 donation to a charity of your choosing. Jesse Mentor, the head coach of the Baltimore Ravens. 100,000, Jesse.

[C]

Oh, man.

[D]

Never a doubt.

[H]

Steve Young.

[B]

We're at a foot. We're at the combine.

[A]

All right, Jesse, that was. Thank you, dude.

[D]

Never a doubt, man.

[A]

That was unbelievable. There was no climax. You made that look so simple. That's Baltimore Ravens head coach Jason. Thank you, man. See you later, coach.

[D]

Appreciate it. Good luck.

[A]

Thank you. Good luck, coach. Handshake. There it is. Thank you, sir. Unbelievable. How boy is that? That was dead center.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

That's unbelievable.

[D]

Just cool.

[A]

Yeah, it looked like Kellen Moore right there.

[B]

Steve Young.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Defensive guy. Did we expect that?

[B]

They throw a lot. I can see when he doesn't.

[D]

You can see when he held the bonus left hand, he looked like.

[C]

Got it.

[D]

He looked very, very confident.

[A]

Even they wanted. He's. I think these guys, these guys are

[D]

about to find out.

[A]

Breaking on ball and put that thing. As Jesse Minter continued to astonish us with his brain and his new title as the Baltimore Ravens head coach, the kickers have gotten started down on the field. Obviously, kickers are drafted. When they are drafted, they are given an opportunity to make a roster. There's only 32 kickers in the NFL. If you get a job and you do well, you could be there for 20 years. You miss a couple kicks, you could be gone seemingly as soon as possible. There was a miss, I believe, that just took place. But there's been a lot of makes. I'll tell you, just by watching the balls come through the uprights and hitting the net, I think I could scout on who's going to make it, who's not going to make it.

[B]

I'm pretty sure you could.

[A]

There's been a couple.

[D]

What are you looking for? For real?

[A]

Height. I want to say height, cuz.

[D]

Like up quick. You mean like bam?

[A]

Yeah, I want the height. So there's a couple guys here that we've been watching earlier that have been kicking from closer distances where it's been going like middle of the upright. It's like, I don't think his leg strong enough. This guy. Good kick right there. I think that's a good ball right there. That thing was going through still. There's a couple guys where it was kind of falling off a little bit. I think NFL coaches are saying, okay, this is a 17 game season. This guy's leg's gonna get tired. I don't think he's gonna make it. I think strength is obviously number one. Control is obviously a massive ordeal, but also how you handle this, this new snapper, new holder, new balls. How do you kind of emulate what NFL life is going to be? And there's always a couple kickers that go on and save team seasons and there's always a couple kickers that go on and win some games that you don't think a team's going to be able to do. And there's always like, that ball is really low. That ball, that guy. I think XFL probably or UXFL for probably a year or two and then maybe come into the NFL or maybe just hit a bad boy.

[B]

Maybe not with the new rules in the XSFFL.

[A]

Yeah. 4.60 yard kicks. Love that they're doing that. I love that the UXX SFL is doing that. And the combine is officially on the way.

[B]

What's wrong?

[D]

New Columbus team. Ted G. Jr. My old teammate in the.

[C]

In the favorites.

[B]

What's the league USF X xl.

[A]

Yeah. What?

[D]

I don't believe that's the proper on the net. That's exactly what they call.

[C]

They change the name.

[A]

The UXSFL is. I think it's the US XFL. It's the United States Extreme Football. And you get four points if he hit a 60 yard field goal. I like to. We're doing that. I do too. You know the big three. Not the big three. Was that what Ice Cube? Yeah, that four point shot. Four point shot. I like that.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

I hope the NBA would take it in there. I don't think they ever will. 4.6 yard field goals potential. I think it has potential because the guys are able to do it. Now with that being said, Brandon Aubrey is potentially going to get $10 million a year as the kicker. Now, I saw the way it was reported that Brandon Aubrey is looking to get 10 million. I don't think Brandon, unless he's representing himself. I think what is happening here is Brandon Aubrey's agents are saying, hey, I think this guy's worth $10 million. And if he's able to accomplish that, especially with how true he has been since stepping foot, USXFL alumni, since stepping foot onto the field for the Dallas Cowboys. He's been true. He's been their best player. And if he gets 10 million a year, that'll be great for kickers and punters everywhere. But that also means that, oh, you know, you gotta make every single kick. That is one of those jobs. So I went into free agency one time. I got franchise tagged and then I went into free agency and it was an interesting negotiation. I've talked about this Grigson, not the biggest fan of mine. He was the general manager at the time. Him and I have a good relationship now, by the way. Saw each other. That's actually been a pretty cool thing. He's an orangutan. I mean he is like big, strong guy, giant. He is gigantic. He's with the Vikings right now. But I wasn't exactly who he was thinking of was going to be his punter. So this guy's on Twitter. He's popular, he sells jersey, he talks a lot, he swears. This is not what I want. It's not normal. This is not what I want my punter position to be. Now a general manager could have came in there and said, holy hell, we got a guy who, you know, does all this stuff. But it wasn't his vision of what a kicker and punter should be. He's offensive lineman too. Like, hey, like, like, let's shut up. So I understand the disagreement in that entire thing, but the negotiation was not like a positive one. You know, like Jim Mercy was the reason why he was being forced to negotiate with me. He would have been okay with me leaving. Jim Merce says the guy's not leaving. So then while you're negotiating, me as punter and guy that at that time I don't think I was the best in the league or whatever, it's like what's the right price that if I hit a couple bad balls I'm not immediately getting cut because I'm a cap casualty. So for me there was like a fine balance where it's like, like do I need to be the highest paid guy? I don't think I need to be the highest paid guy. You're gonna give me a couple million to do this? Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah, that sounds like a deal to me. And with the cap part of it, 10 million a year to a kicker, Brandon Aubrey would certainly be the guy that would be worth it. But if you have just a couple weeks where it's not good, even the most beloved kicker punter will get waste of money. We get a wide receiver, we don't have an offensive lineman that we can get three good offensive linemen with that amount of money. It's crazy how that all kind of comes into play. And if Aubrey does this, I'll be pumped for him and I think he's the right guy for it. But anytime you get the new record setting contract comes the expectations as well. I hope he pulls it off and maybe one of these guys will be the next guy to become the next Brandon Aubrey.

[B]

Yeah, I mean if it is going to be any anybody Aubrey makes sense. You just looked at those Hembo stats and how good he has been since he has been with the Cowboys and it for someone to do this, they have to be a weapon. It's not like someone who is making 50 yard consistent. It has to be these guys who can make 65, 68, 60. Like this has to be someone who is different, unique unicorn so that it is a situation where like okay, he is worth this 10 million. Even though if you make kicks, tell you what, I know a lot of coaches who don't like points. Points are very important. If you make your kicks. Like I think $10 million for a kicker and no one's talking about salary caps. A billion dollars.

[A]

Yeah, salary cap is certainly jumping and I think that's only going to go up as they continue to add primetime games and more Streaming platforms are getting into it, obviously. Remember, 49.5% of the revenue from media TV rights and merch, I think, is what the players end up getting. So every new primetime game that gets signed, massive money comes into the leagues. It obviously is dispersed amongst 32. The new salary cap gone up in a big way. Big 2020. If you look at the yodel yodeli yodeli salary cap, which means the. I think you can kind of judge it as the health of the league. League, I think you could kind of judge it as the health of the league. The salary cap just since its inception basically has gone up like this. Covid, because there was no ticket sales or anything like that, kind of sat down like this. So a lot of the GMs are kind of put behind because what they were expecting it to be, whenever they were negotiating deals, then there was a makeup jump. They were like, hey, we got you for Covid. We'll make it back. And then now it's escalating quicker than they ever could have imagined. So 10 million for a kicker, if he's great, might become status quo because if you don't have a guy, you are. You don't know when you're going to be screwed. But it's normally going to be the biggest moment of the season is going to come down to it and you're not going to have the guy and you're going to regret not having it. And that is just kind of how it goes at those certain positions. Congrats to Brandon Aubrey. Speaking of 10 in dollars, Seattle Seahawks have begun to sale process 10 billion. Wow.

[E]

Sheesh.

[C]

Should be sheesh.

[A]

Jody Allen.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wins her bowl, gets trophy on stage. We're open for business. We are open for young coach. Got a lot of contracts still here. Sam Darnold think he's going to be thankful for what we did for him. Not a bad time. Maybe get up here in the Pacific Northwest for you people that have a lot of money. 10 billion for the Seahawks. Miami Dolphins allegedly in the past have been offered a $10 billion valuation is what Steven Ross said. So who knows what this is going to get up to? But congrats to the Seattle Seahawks and to the Allen family for guiding it in such a good way. John Schneider will join us in about 22 minutes. Obviously, he's going to go down as one of the greatest GMs in the history of the NFL. Good for them and good for the NFL that the teams are just 10, Bill. Potentially, it's probably going to be even

[C]

more than that, well, if there's ever been a more perfect time. You mentioned the super bowl, but also, they have to pay so many players. I assume maybe the Allen estate hate. You know, Jody especially might say, like, hey, look, you. You want to get in on this business because it is. I mean, you said it. It's one of the most consistent healthy businesses over the last, what, 30 years?

[D]

25 years?

[C]

Like, yeah, it's undefeated. And I mean, we're talking about it here at the combine. Like, these dudes are getting bigger, faster, stronger. And maybe not they're getting faster, but they're getting stronger then if they're not getting faster. So the league as a whole, especially with how good the quarterbacks are right now, like, it is at an all time high.

[A]

Hey, it's. Is it the off season?

[D]

No, there is no off season.

[B]

Bingo.

[A]

I like what you guys are doing to try to sell the league, but it is the offseason.

[C]

It is the office, technically.

[D]

I mean, there is the ratings for the combine beat.

[A]

Like, okay, we're talking. Okay.

[C]

Football's not being played.

[H]

Right.

[A]

We agree. We agree that the NFL never sleeps.

[D]

Yes. I'll step aside.

[A]

But it is the off season, and that means Trey Hendrickson and Cincinnati Bengals don't know what the hell's gonna happen. What is going on? Honestly, what's.

[D]

Where are we at right now?

[A]

Nothing's off the table. Could franchise tag him, could trade him, could cut him, could release.

[D]

No way he's going in.

[A]

I don't. I. Jenny, I think he would.

[C]

I think he would. I think he would actually go in. Funny enough, I saw some people saying, hey, if this guy gets franchise tagged, no way he goes to the Bengals. I think if he got franchise tagged, it'll probably be a couple months of tissues. But then after.

[A]

We love you, Trey. It is crazy that this is never getting figured. Wasting away. Both of you are just wasting away. At some point, somebody has to make a decision. Okay? Like, that is. That's kind of the position that some people are in. And it's like, why are we just letting this continue to be a thing? And the bank will say, it's never been a thing. We've given a contract. That's what the bank was saying.

[B]

Well, no sooner.

[F]

Right?

[B]

When's the tag deadline?

[A]

March.

[B]

I think it's because if he doesn't. If he doesn't get tagged, he's a free agent.

[A]

All right? So we will keep our eye on Trey Hendrickson, watch, which we. I mean, we don't like to talk about our journalism Exploits. But I think that all kind of started on our show, Radio Row, years ago. Years ago. And now, now it is still continuing. And then if we're going to talk pass rushers, we've been calling for this for a while. Oh, yeah, okay. And people don't necessarily love that we've been calling for it, especially Raiders fans. And the person himself has not been happy that we have been calling for because he has so much pride and we understand, we respect him. Max Crosby might be on a move to a playoff contender. Max Crosby might be in the Super Bowl. Max Crosby might be seen by the 30, 40, 50 million viewer count games that we get. Only in the biggest stages of the season in which the Raiders have not been in for a long time now. Do we think with Fernando Mendoza, the Raiders are going to be great? I do. I think Fernando Mendoza is generational. I think Fernando Mendoza, six foot, five dog, has beers with the boys, super smart, wildly intelligent, accurate, and he's tough. I think he is generational. I think the people that are on TV talking about him maybe not being a guy or the same people that were saying Dante Moore was the number one overall quarterback in this particular draft class and just because they were late to the party with Mendoza and they don't want to reelect, they don't want to state that they were late to the party. We have seen this guy because we are lucky to be in this state since he got here. I saw Macau. I mean, we were out there with Cal. Whenever we went out to the incredible Berkeley campus out there and had a wild morning shot to Daniel kind of starting the field goal thing out there as well. That entire thing against Miami pulls another one. Cam Ward has another magical win over him. But Fernando Mendoza, everything we have heard about him, everything we have seen from him, every pass that we've watched him throw in games and in warm ups says he's a guy. And I assume there's going to have to be nitpicking because this is the draft and everything like that, but I think a lot of guys that like to judge what the forecast of the future is going to be just maybe didn't know about Mendoza until late. So it feels like they're maybe trying to justify themselves with some. I think he's a guy guy and I, I'm a firm believer in that. I think the Raiders are getting an incredible football player over that great leader of the team.

[D]

Oh, yeah, he. I mean, all of the, all the on the field stuff, off the field stuff, you don't have to worry about him, but his size too, is what's very. It's just impressive. Sometimes the guys will have everything, but they might be a little undersized and you understand people saying, hey, he's going to be great. But I'm not sure if this translates to the NFL like Fernando. It sure feels like everything will translate to the NFL very, very well. And. And being able to be around him a little bit at the super bowl at radio row, I was walking next to him with a break. I'm like, geez, like, you're bigger. You're a much bigger human than I even thought. And we watched him play in person multiple times. So yeah, I'm. I am definitely sold on Fernando Mendoza. You said that. Yeah, the Raiders will be great, maybe win. Like, I think the Raiders will be better with Fernando

[A]

line in there. You know, that's the key. You talk about him being the conversation about him, I guess because we've asked some people around town, you know, like, what, What's. Why is there some people coming out saying like, Fernando might not be a guy? Well, it's Rpogu. So he's athletic. Yeah, so. So he's much more athletic than you think.

[B]

He would make decisions.

[A]

Yeah. How about his back, shoulder and the way he throws the ball? It's like, how come everybody gets shot? I think they're just looking for negatives. He's minus 20, 000 to go number one overall. He's going number one overall. But I, I think the Raiders are getting a special player. So it'd be crazy if they traded Max now, you know. Yeah, that would be a. That would be an insane thing for the Max Crosby Raiders arc. If that was.

[B]

Spytech came out yesterday and said that he wants Max to be on the team, I believe, and expects Max. Max to be on the team, which is. You're looking at it right there. So yeah, they would make sense to be. But you're like, what the. Now you can't do this every off season because free agency is different. It's not as good this year now. But if they were to get Linderbaum, it may be. But like if they sure up that interior offensive line and then they have Mendoza and then they. There's. There's some. And then they draft well on defense. Yes. But like the offense that he's going to be running with Kubiak fits him perfectly. And the one thing that we haven't mentioned is, is we watched him get smacked in the mouth multiple times. That Miami game, the Ohio State game, like he took an absolute beating. It did not faze him. And I think that comes a lot from Cal. When he was at Cal, he was one of the most sacked quarterbacks in college football. He took an absolute beating there. So I think that benefited him, actually. So that when he got behind a good offensive line, he was like, oh, this is awesome. But even. But then when he still got hit, it didn't bother him at all. So if he goes to Raiders and it takes. Takes him a little bit of time with the offensive line, he's not going to be one of those rookie quarterbacks where like, they just go into a shell on their entire career.

[A]

I think he's special. Special?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Honestly, I think he's special. Special. And he could speak Spanish for the Raiders fans. I. I mean, all of on here,

[D]

though, he doesn't do a whole lot.

[A]

What's that?

[D]

When you speak Spanish to him, he usually.

[A]

Yeah. Why. Why is every Spanish speak crystal ball is the same way.

[H]

Yeah.

[D]

Why is that?

[A]

I'm trying.

[D]

They think you're, like, being disrespectful.

[B]

No, that's not the word I would have used.

[A]

Hey, by the way, incredible, incredible hat. I just want to let you know, I. I just saw the hat.

[F]

You see it?

[A]

Yeah. You definitely bought that at a store in Ohio and I love that.

[D]

I bought that at a gas station on the way.

[A]

I knew that was the answer. It's called loves. I'll probably stop there.

[B]

Loves is great in there if you want.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Trucker, come on in. Got a little buggy on the side there. Maybe some lot lizards for you too, if you go ahead and date properly. But I don't think you should do that. I don't think you should do that. But I. I think for. Am a special man. I. I genuinely. And then I saw. Obviously these conversations have to happen in daily sports talk, especially if you cover the league. You have to say, maybe the Raiders trade their number one overall pick and go pick a bunch of things. It's like, are they not looking? Have they not?

[B]

So I guess Gino's gonna get traded then, probably, right? Huh?

[A]

Yeah, dude. Let's go to the trade block. Actually, we have.

[B]

Oh, all right. That's the second time today I've seen you do that.

[D]

You hit the both of them for drawer.

[C]

Oh, yes.

[A]

My knee kind of just got double teamer from the front and the back. Wood this way, wood that way. Yeah, Bump wood there. My knee. My patella really got in there.

[H]

Little.

[A]

Little ring rushes. We got. We got a trade block. Graphic Though there's a lot of names that are potentially on the move. Obviously, Tyreek Hill, already released from the Miami Dolphins, so he would be available for a team to sign, has another surgery. Dr. David Chow.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Says that one. Another surgery still at this point with already having knee surgery could limit him for next season. We'll see how that goes. But all these guys potentially on the move. Kyler Murray, obviously, Arizona Cardinals quarterback for a lot of times of transition. And if there's a lot of transition while you were the quarterback for the team, normally it means your team's not doing good. You are going to take a lot of heat for that. Then whenever there's clauses put into your contract, and another thing said by former players, it's certainly going to get loud. A nice refresh for Kyler Murray could be good at a new place. Just like, you know, Baker Mayfield, I think, said he wasn't the most mature. He was supposed to be at Cleveland, turned into a pro. Maybe. Kyler Murray gets a new stop and kind of does his thing. Some people mention in an elevator on the way up here. Could you imagine Kyler Murray with Kevin o', Connell, who said that that'd be interesting. Then you start thinking about the Minnesota Vikings. Like, they got J.J. mcCarthy. How's this whole entire experiment going to go with him not being able to play enough? But are they going to be in the market for a veteran quarterback? Is Kirk Cousins potentially going back to the Minnesota Vikings within the entirety of it all? And you start thinking about the big names. AJ Brown, obviously with the Philadelphia Eagles. You know, they say the squeaky wheel gets the oil. He's been squeaky wheel for a long time. It's been a squeaky wheel over in Philly. A lot of people saying, wow, Vrabel really likes AJ Brown. If you remember when he was traded away from Tennessee to Philadelphia, Vrabel did a. Walk away. I want to kill this guy.

[B]

Went outside and lit up a Sig immediately.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

Turn back around, sits back down. I'm gonna need to hear the plan on how we replace A.J. brown. And then from that moment forward. Yep, it was over between. There it is.

[C]

Robinson.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

All right.

[A]

So we're trading away the best player on the field. Okay.

[C]

All right.

[A]

He sits back down. From that moment on, Titans and Braves pretty much done. That was the moment on. So a lot of people up in New England are saying it would be nice to have a number one wide receiver and A.J. wouldn't it be nice to have a coach that loves you and got a lot of smoke seemingly around that. But I don't think Philadelphia Eagles are just going to give up A.J. brown. I think that's going to be a lot there.

[J]

Yeah.

[C]

No chance. And Sirianni came out and said he can't guarantee that the Eagles will have A.J. brown on the roster next year. But that feels like one that gets done. Like even the Max Crosby one little different. Like hold.

[D]

You mean AJ Back in Philly.

[C]

AJ Back in Philly. I don't do actually whole new.

[A]

No, you're out. A.J. a.J.

[D]

You're saying I don't see how he's back there. I just feel like. It feels like they have.

[A]

It's always

[D]

animosity and enough going on. That feels like the Eagles, they probably want to try to keep him, but I don't. I just don't see it.

[A]

Conor's trying to undersell this right now because him to the Patriots is very loud and Connor's trying not to get too ahead. Hey, hey, hey. Let's not jinx this.

[C]

Would love. Would love for it to happen. If anything, I'd probably rather Max Crosby. But still, an AJ Brown on the team would be awesome. But a year ago we're talking about the Eagles being the super bowl champs. Like is it really one year later that it doesn't work? I don't know.

[D]

But.

[C]

But the Eagles have a ton of those questions. Stoutland getting, you know, him being gone. Like the Eagles are kind of one of those teams you look at like what the hell is going on there? But A.J. brown being the guy getting traded, you know that that would make a lot of sense in that. That salary cap that hit. It's not that bad.

[A]

No. Especially for a one.

[J]

No.

[B]

I think there is a another team that needs wide receiver help who has his college teammate on that team and gave up a third to get DK Metcalf last year and has multiple thirds they could give up this year to pair those two back together.

[A]

Yeah, a couple thirds for A.J. brown. I'm sure that'll go over well. Let's go to a couple of the other players. Tua Tong of Aloa potentially on the move. Okay. Tua Tongvaloa, Obviously we had McDaniel on earlier. They were magic together. And then we watched Tua almost give up his football career on TV a bunch of times. And then who knows what happens afterwards that ends up getting blown up to a paid gumpy. What is to his contract situation for the next team and for the Miami

[F]

Dolphins Gumpy 99 million dead cap for us right now.

[A]

If we were to cut him today,

[F]

but we can spread that out.

[H]

I don't.

[B]

Doesn't sound like anyone's trading for him

[A]

either, so it's going pretty good. You sound pretty negative there. Okay. Sounds like you're about done with the Tuatong Valoa experience there in Miami. But he's potential on a move. Hey, there's another quarterback very active whenever he's in it.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Does he find a home and have a second Bert? Jalen Waddle potentially on the move as well. Gumps, seems like everybody has been in on Jalen Waddle for, like, the last two years.

[H]

Yeah.

[F]

There's been, like, three trades made for him, but somehow he's still on the

[B]

dolphin, so I'm sure we'll dial those up again.

[A]

He's gonna be behind that computer that is blocking his face right now.

[D]

Popular.

[A]

Yeah. Hey, Gumps, come on. You're getting Siciliano by the computer there, pal.

[H]

That's tough. That's a tough look right there.

[A]

I like that logo back there on a wall, Foxy. What's that all about? You guys really upgraded. I'll tell you what. This truck has really come together for the first time we ever did a truck show till now. This thing is night and day. It's incredible. Shout out to Barcode crew in there. Get alive back there. I can't see.

[C]

Mitch's over Roxy's shoulder.

[A]

Barely listen next to him. It's crazy. They're doing some news hit here. Hey, boys. Let's stand up and wait.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, nice. Good to see you guys.

[C]

Bunny ears. Bunny ears.

[A]

39 for the combine.

[C]

He's waving.

[A]

What channel?

[B]

So I can tell my mom to watch.

[A]

Yeah. We don't know if we're in your back. Sorry. All right, wpz. It's great to be back. That wthr. What is that?

[C]

Is that thr Moose years?

[A]

Moose, you're so stupid. Do you watch any of the other shows? Okay. Yeah. Like what? You know, every day.

[C]

Dude, it was fun, man.

[A]

I did. I literally did. And I'm just. I just watched those shows, and I'm like, holy.

[D]

Felt very similar to this one.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

The people that like this show have to absolutely despise our show. I mean, they have to absolutely hate. And I read it, I hear it, I see it. I appreciate it. Got a lot of texts from people asking how long we're taking off. Thought I was a hard worker. Okay. Some people, I think, were excited for us to be back in their lunch time routine. We are thankful and lucky to be here. The combine is obviously going to electrify John Schneider, who might go down as greatest general manager in the history of the NFL. That title right now is Bill Belichick.

[B]

I was gonna say.

[A]

Yeah, you've always. That title right now is Bill Belichick and he was our first tobe. How you doing, brother? Good luck out there, dude. Are you guys looking for anything? You're not looking for anything, right? You're not looking for anything, right? We're live right now, so don't say anything. It's on the record. It's good to see you, though, Toby. You guys looking for anything right now or. No, Always. Just. Yeah. I like that hall of Fame special teams coach right there. Appreciate you, man. Spagnolo.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Reed.

[J]

Yep.

[A]

To. To. Right?

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

I didn't want to get it wrong. Holy.

[B]

Oh, did you weren't confident.

[A]

I was halfway through, dude. My. I was just in Naples.

[C]

All right, you had it.

[A]

You had it. I. I said it.

[D]

You saw. Sold it.

[A]

Well then, yeah. But I had to back off it a little bit. I'm like, that's tough.

[B]

I mean, that's interesting. I mean they were. They were horrendous this year.

[A]

Hall of Famer. So I. Hall of Famer Johnson, though, we had someone on.

[B]

Dude called him.

[A]

He's a legend. I just want to let one time. Yeah, we got him the wrong name. Yeah. And then there's another special teams guy, Colt Anderson there, former special teams coordinator for the Tennessee Titans. Also a member of the 4th down army with the Indianapolis Cold Colts. That's my former pump protector right there. That man right there. Every Colt, stay away from that electromagnetic thing. He's out there with the Niners as well.

[C]

Substitute better not be running.

[A]

All right, couple news we got to hit before we get out of here. Trent Williams and 49ers John lynch talked to the press. He said that's going to get down feeling good. I tell you what, we'll see. Trent Williams would get a lot of calls if. He would get a ton if that was going anywhere. We saw John lynch walk by. His off seasons are always filled with something. They mentioned how the IUK thing can finally take place and kind of have a resolution because the way the contract was set up, they'll do a Post 61 designation once the new league year starts. They'll be able to move on from iuk. Before that, I mean, it was Jennings. Before that it was Kittle. Before that it was. I mean there's just Brock Purdy. Before that it was. They just. Whenever you're good. Now, granted, they have not won the super bowl, so that'll always be held over their head. They've been an elite football team for a long time. Time with a lot of talent. So that means every offseason, that guy is in the middle of the trenches with something. Some pillar player is one. Something. This would be the biggest one. We. We think personally, when you look at the stats from their team with Trent playing and without Trent playing, it's a vastly different ball game. And Trent knows that, obviously. And this might be the last big one that Trent Williams gets here.

[C]

Oh, yeah. And they got to go, too, because you're talking about pressure from the outside now. The super bowl champions in their division. You know, you got the Rams, the other NFC finalists. It's like, hey, if they don't get it done soon, people are going to

[A]

be panicking over there. Okay. Panthers play caller this year will be Brad Ajik. Congrats to him. David Canales passing those things over. We'll be talking to Dan Morgan, I believe, general manager of the Panthers here. That's becoming an annual thing. And as we remain here at the combine, we would like to say how thankful we are that we're allowed to kind of do this. Yeah, you know, a lot of the people that have covered the combine for a while just kind of put a couple director seats up and just kind of put like an iPhone and kind of do their thing. The fact that Indianapolis has allowed us to utilize this stage and the fact that the NFL and ESPN have helped us kind of make this a massive thing, which it is. There's a lot of dreams about to come true in these fields out here. The NFL season has officially begun here in Indianapolis. Hour three will be on. Digital Sports Center's on the other side. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We'll see you tomorrow from the combine. Goodbye. I feel like I hit it there. Yeah. Yeah, I thought about that. Woke up. I. I passed out in sun. Was getting burnt. Woke up, thought about just like completely missing a. Just like seven seconds. The worst is early.

[B]

Yeah. Because then you sit there and look like an idiot.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You're not sure.

[A]

That was what I woke up to, was me staring. Good hour. All right, let's get to a break. On the other side, John Schneider's joining us. Then we also have Bob Sala joining us. Wow.

[B]

He was walking by with day ball earlier.

[C]

Yeah, he looked huge jacked.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Day bar.

[A]

I'm excited to see. I'm excited to coach Bob Sala. With the program. I'm excited to see how this goes because he has certainly heard us.

[C]

Yeah. I just hope he doesn't choke slam me.

[A]

Yeah. Because the crow and the eagle thing, remember?

[B]

But we know. We know Daybaw enjoys us, so he probably passed that along.

[A]

Yeah. And day ball, Similar situation when he was at the Giants. We had to say things about.

[B]

He got it. He knew it.

[A]

Liam cone has said that to us before.

[B]

Where's he at?

[A]

You guys got to say what you got to say. It's like, yeah, don't. Actually.

[B]

I haven't seen him walk around anywhere.

[A]

He's not doing it. Setting precedent, playing iPhone games.

[B]

Not working, huh? Flappy bird.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Great game. They had to get rid of that because too many people got addicted. I love you. Didn't watch any. We'll talk about this later.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I've been watching stuff.

[A]

Love is blind. This guy's watching Love is Blind.

[D]

Dude, I heard it's not Ohio.

[A]

Cincinnati cast.

[C]

They did Columbus.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

A lot of AJ Hawks on there, surprisingly. Jerseys?

[C]

No, no, just people like them.

[A]

Ohio State, Columbus got some interesting stuff.

[B]

Really?

[C]

What's that?

[A]

Let's go to a break. Back on the other side. All the buildings. Yeah.

[C]

That was my first favorite part of the whole entire thing. A little interaction. Hey, why don't you shut the up?

[A]

I'm gonna kill you. Yeah.

[D]

I can't believe that was real.

[A]

Yeah. There's a lot of things. There's a lot of things in there where it's like, okay, this is obviously the saddest thing that I've ever.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

But, wow, this is a lot of info.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And then what's next? Now good luck to everybody in the real world. Figuring that out.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

We're going to continue to do sports over here. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We're back on the other side.

[G]

Take.

[I]

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[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Hey, man. John. Sir. Sir.

[D]

Great to see you.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

That's pretty sweet.

[A]

Absolute pleasure. Hold on. Forearm. Hold on. I don't think you're supposed to handshake a forearm tat. Can you show that real quick? How many GMs got forearm tats? I don't think a lot of them.

[B]

Omar does.

[A]

Omar Khan.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

He's got an ass tat, too.

[A]

Yeah. Heard it's Elmer Fudd with a gun.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

He's saying, come out of there.

[C]

I see luck.

[A]

All right, let's move along. John, thank you for joining. Congratulations.

[E]

Better.

[C]

It's awesome.

[H]

Thanks for having me, buddy.

[A]

Yeah. A.J. thank you for the booking. So you guys know each other from Green Bay, obviously.

[H]

2006 draft, brother. Okay, so Vernon Davis or AJ Hawk, what are you getting do? You said tight end's pretty fast now, right?

[A]

But Ohio, look at this guy's face. And we heard he made it really easy for everybody to get information on his medical history throughout the entire process.

[E]

Completely.

[D]

Yeah.

[H]

It was the. It was the white tights with Carpenter.

[D]

The.

[H]

It, too. Who are these guys?

[D]

The full jumpsuit.

[H]

Are they. Yeah, they like each other a lot.

[A]

Yeah, they do. They still do. By the way, they still just spent three or four days on the ship out in the sea.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, I'm not going to get into that cruise. Yeah. Not going to get into that sponsor. That cruise is a good thing. We don't want to make fun of it. We made fun of it in years past. We do not want to do that. And there's nothing to make fun of. Of. About your resume, brother, that you're stacking together. Congratulations on building it twice. And we are talking about that. You obviously, in the middle of the entire process, understanding you're just trying to win. Trying to win. Can you take me to the decision of moving on from Pete Carroll? Because Pete Carroll then comes out afterwards and said, I fought like hell for my job. Did not make it easy, I think, for the Seattle Seahawks. After Pete Carroll left, he decided to move on him, saying he still wanted to be there. I think kind of a tough thing with how beloved Pete Carroll was you sitting in that pocket making that decision. Did you have to re. Envision what the team was? Were you already envisioning what the team had to look like when you make that pivotal moment there? What was going through your mind for the Seattle Seahawks?

[H]

Well, Pete and I had great discussions all through that process, you know, and just. We did a lot of special things together. And, you know, it just. It was just. It was just time for. For both sides. And, you know, Jody Allen, Pete, they had their conversations, and, you know, it was like, hey, Jody just entrusted us to move forward. And then, you know, start. Start a new. Just start a new era with a different leadership group. And, yeah, I mean, I. No, I can't take you through every step because it was like. It was 72 hours of, like, am I gonna get fired or see what's going on here? I don't really know.

[A]

Chaos.

[H]

Am I gonna hire a head coach or, like, what's shaking here? And, yeah, she just, you know, she had the confidence in us, and obviously, you know, Pete wanted to coach again and. And but it just, it just like every, just. It was just kind of. It's just kind of time.

[A]

Yes, absolutely. And it's a hard decision to make, but there's only a few people that are put in positions to make those decisions. So the thing that I'm so impressed by is you sitting in the pocket, taking it in the shins, and then moving on kind of with your blinders on. Understanding that you're going to have success is how you felt. McDonald, this guy seems to be a wizard. Yeah, I mean, this is a whiz kid. I saw him yesterday at the women's forum. Got a chance to shake his hand and tell him, like, how impressed I am with him as a leader and everything. What did you see from him and what did you think about the culture that he was going to be able to build for you, like, if that makes sense.

[H]

Yeah, so it was that, that process. We were, we were actually a little late that week, so we weren't able to speak with, with Mike, you know, because they had to buy. And so it was really, really trusting people. Like good friends of mine, like Dan Morgan and I are very close. I know you guys know Dan well, chad Brinker, Rich McKay, guys that have been able to interview him already and then just saying, like, hey, like your guys personalities would work out great. No ego, all ball. Like, let's. Let's rock. And when we interviewed him, it was just very clear. It was, it was two hours, it felt like 20 minutes. So it's like, you know, clear, concise, intelligent, and then where, where are we taking ball? Like if we want to be the best sports organization in 10 years, which is what Jody had kind of challenged us on, like, what's that going to look like? And so it was, it was, it was, it was tough. But it became clear because there was some great candidates in there. And you know, we interviewed about 14 guys, but I really think, like, okay, where this guy is going to, where, where he can take football and what I like, what I can't see, like, what are my blind spots? Like, where am I falling behind and you know, with our staff and how can we mix our groups together and then, you know, what kind of staff can he build and, and, and take us into the future? And you know, we, we had played there, we had played in Baltimore and it was one of those games. And I know you guys have been through this. I'm not sure if you guys play professional football.

[A]

Usxfl. Usxfl.

[C]

Kind of like Brandon Arbery kind of that situation. Yeah. Middle backer.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[H]

By the way, where's Debot the R? Is he Riding Fire fan? He's born in Frankfurt, right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Deba. Yeah. Yeah. Debut's off until March, believe me. Until March. I forget. Yeah. March 2nd, he gave me a date. He said, hey, got a daughter. Equestrian. Now he's got a golfing daughter.

[C]

Volleyball.

[A]

He's got a volleyball daughter now. I mean, he's a football player, and he.

[H]

He's a baller.

[A]

One of the greatest athletes I've ever encountered.

[H]

We had played and had played in Baltimore, and, you know, you have that feeling. You're like, what? Just. We just got shook. You walk out of there.

[E]

I don't know.

[H]

You know, we just. We left. We left Baltimore that day, like, what just happened, you know, and, you know, talking to Geno and talking to Drew Locke, you know, after the game, and it's like they were just like, this is.

[A]

This guy's different here. Okay, let's talk about the quarterback position, because you had to make a decision. There was reports that you offered Geno Smith a contract. He didn't love the contract. He ends up getting one in Las Vegas. Him and Pete kind of battling fun.

[H]

I'm starting to sweat already.

[A]

A question.

[H]

You pit out, brother.

[A]

So we've been following the Seahawks. I feel like we're. We have really followed along with your guys's journey. Mostly. Not just mostly because. But AJ and everybody's ever talked about you. He's like, hey, Schneider is a guy. Like, he is an actual guy out there. So we respect everything that you've been able to build. The decision to bring in Sam Darnold, though, is, I mean, what. Monumental now to this point with how. How it all works out, how. How does that decision go? And what did you see from Sam that's like, holy hell. We. This guy won 14 games and somehow was available for us to sign in this entire thing.

[H]

Well, the combine has really changed since you guys came out. There's a lot. There's a lot more. A lot more conversations with. With. With agents and what the landscape's going to look like. And that's. That's obviously, you know, what you guys experience with the medicals and the testing and everything, but really, you know, behind the scenes. All right, you know, where are we at from negotiation standpoint? Negotiation standpoint. Like, if we have to pivot, is it going to be A, B or C? And getting all the coaches on the same. On the same plane and, you know, deciding, like, are we gonna. Are we gonna be able to do this in a concise manner. And so last year at this time, I mean, yeah, we were, we were, we were talking Geno. It wasn't going great. The Raiders have tried to acquire a different quarterback that's encouraged to fruition. They were interested in Gino. We were just able to pivot in that three day window and, and get, and get ready to roll. And the cool thing was like all of our relationships, Kevin o', Connell, Clint Kubiak, all these guys, all these guys that we, that are good friends of ours that have been around Sam, like describing him was like exactly like great leader, real guy and, and you know, obviously competitor. And he's not like, he doesn't wear his emotions on his sleeve and his teammates love him.

[A]

If you got anything to say about my quarterback, if you got anything to say about my team, you got anything to say about this city, we got two words for you. You. That was so awesome. That was. Honestly, you love that. You have to.

[H]

After we lost to the, to the Rams down there in la, literally like stood there, everybody was walking through the door and I was like, you guys are just, it's like they just. We almost won that game. Like every disregards that. Like. Yeah, you know, it was, it was, it was a rough game for a lot, for some people, A lot of people. But like the guy's resilience and the way they responded around Sam, I was like, we got some cool stuff going on here.

[A]

Yeah, it did, it felt special.

[H]

Let's go. And like earnest, like took it, you know, when we got in the locker room, you know, he obviously, he took it to a different level.

[A]

Gotta have that though. AJ's got a question for you.

[D]

Yeah? I guess your time here at the combine, you've been coming for a long time, I guess. What's it like now? What are you looking for when you, you, I guess interview these players when you watch them on the field? Like, does, does all the stuff on the field matter as much as some people make it out to be? Like, I know, okay, let's just use 225 bench, for example. I said, it doesn't matter. I said, it's garbage. I remember whenever I did mine, I think I 24 or something and I was all pissed off. I was all pissed. And I had one gym. He goes, what's, what are you all. Oh, what are you doing? What's your attitude about? I was like, ah, this guy. I only got 24 reps. I thought I was gonna get 30. He's like, I don't care about that. Like, he instantly. And it gave me, like, a sense of relief a little bit, even though I was still pissed I didn't get 30. Like, is there something like, what is what matters?

[A]

What.

[D]

Yeah, what does matter here? What. What are you looking for?

[H]

What really matters is, like, eye in the sky and then the person, the competitor, that's kind of what we've.

[D]

Like, they gotta love ball. You want. They need to confirm.

[H]

They gotta be. They gotta be. They gotta. You guys be smart, tough, reliable football players. And then down here, it's really like, you know, these chunks now, that's why I said it was different when you guys were coming out. Like, it's like, okay, you got these. These interviews over here that we, you know, record and we're able to study that. And then you got the canned one. You know, it's like, you know, like, what's your favorite cereal in the morning? Like, that sort of stuff.

[A]

Like Freddie Pebbles.

[H]

You can watch all that kind of stuff and you can study all that, but really watching the guys, how they interact with.

[A]

With.

[H]

With the other guys on the field, how they're taking to the coaching going on out here, but then it's really, like, obvious. Obviously, the medical, you know, the whole thing started because the jets drafted a receiver then, you know, was legally blind in one eye, so that's how the whole combine started. So you get the medical bills.

[B]

Classic Jets.

[H]

The medical is really.

[A]

What year was that? What year was that?

[B]

Two years ago?

[C]

Yeah, exactly. 2022.

[H]

But yeah, yeah, no, I think just. Just really, like, at the end of the day, the guys knowing, like, the character. The character of the person, and we just emphasize, like, like the competitor and. And you don't have to have like a final, like, as an area scout. The guys are responsible for their areas. You don't have to have, like, your hard. You don't have to stick to your hard and fast grade that you had in the fall. It's more important that we get that. That right at least, like, the week before the draft so we can set the board and then be able to just strategize and then know who the person is that we're bringing in the building to be able to help them out and grow.

[A]

So, like, passing your culture test is obviously a qualifier. Absolutely. Yeah. It feels like that should be for everybody. I don't know if that is the case. It's certainly working for you. 1977 is when that happened.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

It's been happening for a long time over there with that team.

[C]

Same Team, though.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, same franchise.

[D]

He's blinded one eye, but he fooled him.

[A]

That.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

He wore sunglasses. Yeah, that guy. Guy's a good actor.

[H]

Phenomenal receiver, too. Crazy, really. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. Jericho, I have a question.

[A]

1977, before that, I have a question for you. You said that the standard thing is, what cereal do you have in the morning? What other stuff do you like? Appliance questions like, what are the. Right. I said Fruity Pebbles immediately strictly because on the back of the Fruity Pebbles box, there's always, like, some fun little quizzes. So I feel like I'm getting better and enjoying a phenomenal breakfast, and it always, always tastes good. Throughout many different government policies of what you're allowed to put into food, what you're not allowed to put into food. We're learning a lot about that as well. Well, Fruity Pebbles has remained Cocoa Puffs, changed their ingredients. They weren't as much cocoa anymore. Yeah, Cocoa Pebbles, I think the same exact thing. Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Cinnamon Toast Crunch. OG OG Cinnamon Toast Crunch. If it's a little cold outside, treat that like tomato soup. Cinnamon Toast Crunch always going to be there for you. What are the answers that you get in those questions and what other questions do you kind of give? Because that is trying to find out who a person is. Is all this.

[D]

Do you mess with them?

[A]

Yeah. Do you ask these guys.

[D]

Do you mess with them on purpose? Try to get him pissed off?

[H]

No, we used to. A little bit more. I used to. When I was with the Packer, when I was with the Packers, I was like, you know, I was the. I was the younger guy, so I was like the guy that had to ask all the, you know, the partying questions, the marijuana questions and stuff, you know, so I'll never forget we had a running back in here. Were you around Mark Hatley?

[A]

That's the name of the running back.

[H]

Yeah. No, it's not the name of the running back. I'm not going to give the name of the running back, but he was this poor guy, like, had filled several drug tests. And Mark Hadley, God rest his soul, he worked for the. He ran the Bears for a minute, was my boss in Green Bay. And so I'm asking the questions about, like, why he failed this drug test, you know, like, again, you know, And. And my man had this high accent. Mark Hadley's like, shoot, why'd you do that, son? I don't get it. Like, why'd you do. You kind of sound like Ballard.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[H]

He likes his guy.

[A]

He likes his guys.

[D]

Yeah.

[H]

He kind of had that, you know, that, that, that draw. Southern draw to him, you know, and my man's sitting on the couch and he just kind of panicked and he's like, are you, you sitting on his chair? And he goes up, he's like, I'm, I'm sorry, Mark. I was just on the couch and I was next.

[A]

It's honest. Give me that guy. He's.

[H]

He's super honest. Running backs. We had a running back in the room one day and our running back coach is like, hey, you know, you consider yourself to be a better inside runner or outside runner? You know, he's like, like, hey, coach, have you seen an indoor facility yet? Our new indoor facility is amazing. I never run outside. It's like, okay, I like this guy too.

[A]

Outside the box. We're just trying to test your brain. Connor has a question. Wow. Any more of those that come to your mind right now, we would love to hear. Thank you.

[C]

John, you don't know this, but I'm a Patriots fan, so you can go eat. It was very fun, Very fun to.

[A]

Hey, welcome to the show.

[C]

But I did watch.

[H]

I was there a couple years ago too, brother, so.

[C]

Exactly.

[H]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay. So kind of one of the same,

[B]

but you guys are even.

[D]

But yeah, exactly.

[C]

We're even.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

But one thing I did watch, and it was actually the only thing I watched from your parade was the speech you gave at the end. Just talking about Jesus. Talking about, you know, kind of the angels from the team. Yeah, you throwing out little tiny baby Jesuses on the parade.

[H]

They were tiny baby Jesus, brother. They were, they were like, like little baby Jesus. He was a grown man. He had a beard, but miniature.

[A]

Excuse me, Jesus Christ.

[C]

Yes, it was very cool. But

[H]

how do you envision tiny baby Jesus?

[C]

It was miniature size of real grownup

[A]

33 year old Jesus before 33 year

[C]

old Jesus as a. There it is. We actually got.

[A]

Does he look like. As a 20 year old. Same thing. Talking cut. He cut. Shredded.

[C]

Yeah, like you don't even want to.

[B]

He's always shredded.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Yoked up. But speaking of, while I'm watching this, as much as it hurt, it did feel like storybook for, for the Seattle Seahawks. Like you listen out all the players that, you know, had lost loved ones, everything like that. And you mentioned the Rams game as kind of a locker room where it felt different, it felt special. Was there any other points where it felt like, hey, this is part of, of a storybook ending. Like you could envision the super bowl, the, the storybook finish. And knowing it was coming. You know, as a Patriots fan, I said 28. Three against Atlanta felt better than nine. Nothing against Seattle just because of how dominant and how great your team was. But inside that locker room, whether it's training camp, whether it was through kind of those tough trials throughout the season where, you know, some of your players are losing guys, was there a moment where you kind of felt that. That, you know, storybook coming together and knowing that, hey, this is going to end in glory in the end? Yeah.

[H]

I think Mike's our head coach. Mike's emphasis on. On the connectedness, like, we all grow up playing the sport because it's the ultimate team sport. You learn so many lessons in life. And he just did a great job, like, you know, turning the corner. Last year, he comes in his first year, he wins 10 games, and he's like, what do I. How do I. Like, how do we take this to a different level? And it was really like, the connectedness of the team and the guys. And so, yeah, we had a lot of. We had a lot of, you know, like, Charles Cross lost his father, Ernest lost his father. Jake Bobo lost his father. I lost my father in the day after the. The Houston game. And I just felt like everybody was just really in this place of, like, playing for each other. And when you're in that space, like, there's just no. Like, there's. It's pretty hard to. That's a hard team to beat when guys are playing together like that. Like, you know, The Super Bowl 48 team, those guys were. Those guys were super swaggy. They loved each other. They played for each other. It was like us against the world. These guys are more like, I don't care about the other team. It's all about us. So we're just going to go out there and, like, play together and have a blast. And that's.

[A]

That's.

[H]

That's the way it felt. It wasn't like that one. It was that Rams game. Yes. How the locker room was like, afterwards, like, hey, we're to going.

[A]

How about after the Colts game, you guys?

[H]

Phil Rivers almost hold on to it.

[A]

Right.

[H]

It was pretty.

[A]

Yeah.

[H]

That was a little hairy there for a minute, you know.

[A]

Yeah. It was awesome there for a minute. Yeah. So as a Colts fan.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

And as national sports show host, I guess, is what we are at this stage. We're called regional just a few years back, which is pretty cool. But now we're able to do it. We've been paying attention to your team and your dad Defense like right you guys go to Pittsburgh and just, I mean that was, it was second half. That was good game in your road warriors of your team like what you guys were able to do. And the defense was just everywhere. I mean Houston was obviously getting a lot of love, a lot of conversation for their defense. As they should Patriots obviously defense was good. Nobody really talked about it. Your defense was not getting hyped up by a lot of people at all. Phil Rivers goes in there, battles you guys, comes down to a field goal. You're kid Jason's. I'm unbelievable. I don't need to get into that guy. Never.

[B]

10 million.

[A]

10 million. Brandon Aubrey, you'll have to pay him JC 11 million. Maybe 12, 13, maybe 14, maybe 15 million. A guy won a Super Bowl.

[H]

Former players play the man. Hey really thanks for the Flash Gordon.

[A]

Yes, please.

[H]

There's no salary cap.

[A]

There is especially for a kicker. If you got one, figure it out. But on that note, I don't think your defense got any respect. Really. Like I, I, I don't think your defense got respect. And the reason why I'm saying that is because I'm like Phil Rivers almost just beat the Seattle Sea. And I was impressed because the Seattle Seahawks how good you are. I don't think you guys are getting any national recognition at all. Could you sense that with the team? Did the team know that? Do you guys care about that? I know it's outside noise or whatever.

[H]

I think, I don't, I don't think so. I think that you know they, they signed Philip that week and what's, what's different, you know, like the balls coming. I saw him play in the Citrus bowl years ago. Like here comes balls coming out like you're not gonna be able to get to, going to get to the guy.

[A]

Nobody talked about your defense being so good. Like I was so pumped for Phil

[H]

cuz Phil knew about the reputation.

[A]

Yeah. Of your defense. I don't think anybody was talking about.

[B]

It took a little bit.

[A]

Yeah. Cuz like Phil people are like Phil Rivers almost beat this deep. It's like complete opposite. Phil Rivers completed some balls against this defense is more so the combo. Nobody's really talking about that pretty special

[H]

football player Philip Rivers. Yes guys pretty dang good.

[A]

Absolutely.

[H]

But no, I, I think they, no, they don't have that same. That's what I'm saying. They don't have that same us against the world chip on their shoulder. That Super Bowl 48 team had, you know, Richard would always be like why don't you Know, why don't you draft me in the fourth round? Like it's the fifth round. Like, Marshawn's like, you know, mad at me because we didn't trade for him earlier. You know, like, they were like, they were just like mad at everybody, you know, and they, they, they, they played like that. You know, these guys, I don't think they really, I think they just, they're just, they were just really self confident and you know, they, they trust the coaching, they love the scheme, they love each other and they just, they just flew around balling.

[A]

Fun group to watch, man. Go ahead, Tone.

[B]

Yeah, Your first two picks last year, Gray, Zabel, probably could have been offensive

[H]

rookie of the year.

[B]

Nick Eamon, Warrior, could have been defensive rookie of the year.

[A]

Pretty good.

[B]

Yeah, pretty good. But like the difference between them, Zable, small school guy, but then he got to the Senior bowl, looked really, really good at Senior Bowl. Ian Warri had one of the best combines of all time. So like, is that just like when Zabel goes to Senior bowl and you see competition? Like, okay, that's a check mark. When even worry comes here and just is the freakiest of freak athletes. Is that a check mark? Like when do you know in the process what these guys are your guys, if that makes sense.

[H]

Yeah, no, that's a good, a really good question. Gray was exactly what you said, going to the Senior bowl, watching him be able to compete with the best of the best. And then yeah, that's a, that's a, that's a box checked. I'm not sure if you guys know Steve Hutchinson very well, but Steve was on. Steve, Steve was working with us and, and doing, used to do offensive line consulting and stuff. But he loved them. And you know, we're, we're really like trying to get to that, back to that like, you know, oh man. Like the old school offensive line groups, it's hard to keep these guys, guys together and have continuity. And he loved them. Went down there Senior Bowl, Nick was in a totally different box. This guy's like, you know, like the athletic freak. And so how do you. That's like, okay, like let's bring Nick into the building on a 30 visit. Have him spend time with the coaches. You know, like, can we, are we going to be able to use this guy in the manner that, you know, we, you know, personnel guys and coaches, you gotta like come together, right? You're like, like, yeah, this guy's like six foot three and a half. He runs four, two, eight. Yeah, you should be able to coach him up. But you can't just take the guy if you don't have the buy in from the coaching staff. And so we brought him in. Total buy in. Here's gonna be the role. You know, he got hurt like on the, like shoot. Fourth player of the, of the opener and he was, I think he had already had two tackles, so we missed him for.

[A]

Who got hurt? Super bowl week.

[B]

It was him, his ankle.

[D]

Remember they showed him.

[H]

Opener. Sorry. First weekly opener against San Francisco. He got hurt like on the fourth play and he had like two tackles already. And you're just watching the guy like, holy cow, this is going to work.

[A]

Yeah, good pick.

[B]

There was the ankle scare week of the whole week.

[H]

God helps those who can't help themselves, brother. You know, like, Here comes the 6 foot 3 guy that runs 4, 3, 6 and ends up being a good football player, you know? Yeah, everybody's like, well he's, he's, you know, he's, you know, he's, you know, he's, he's, he's, you know, there's some maturity things. It's going to take him a minute, you know, like he's, he's, he's one month older than my youngest son. Like, let's give this guy a break. Like, you know, like, did you see what he did out here?

[A]

That was pretty good.

[C]

Unbelievable, sir.

[B]

43 inch vertical.

[A]

Hey, this guy's the greatest GM of all time. We got a guy 6, 3, 2, 40 running a 4 1. Yeah, yeah. GM's really good.

[H]

Yeah. Yeah. We just got your butt off. Yeah.

[A]

AJ has the last question for you. John, we appreciate your time.

[D]

Yeah. You talk about like personnel. Guys. Guys and coaches, I guess. How do you know as a GM and as your time as a gm has it changed how much you are involved and how much you, you do medal in the day to day? I know after. It's got to be a good feeling coming down from the box when you're heading the fourth quarter to watch the game from the sidelines. But I guess we talk about Jerry Jones a lot doing pressers in the, in the locker room. Like, how do you know where you should and shouldn't go? And what do you like that balance with the coaching staff?

[H]

Yeah. The game day stuff is really just for me personally. It's just trying to make the guys play feel as confident as they possibly can. The coaches, the players knowing that we're loving them up, we're supporting them. I know my space. I know when to like try to, you know, pump somebody up or or kind of, you know, give them some. Give them some crap, you know, if they're feeling pretty good about themselves and stuff like that. But a lot of people come down, like, people think that you come down to be on the sidelines, to be seen. If you don't hit that. If you don't hit that elevator by a certain time you're up there, like, with. You know, you're not coming down from, like, last, like, 20 minutes. So you gotta. You gotta got. You got to get down there. And I'm so short, I have a hard time seeing, like, what's going on on the field. So I never. Like, I'm always asking offensive coordinators, like, how do you call a game from the sidelines? Because I can't see.

[A]

Say nothing.

[H]

Yeah, I can't see anything. I'd love to be up top and watch that, but, no, I think. I think just knowing your space and

[D]

you ever tell coach, hey, this guy. You know, why isn't this guy better? This, he's six three, two, four five. You know, put him in more or something.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

That's personal.

[D]

Yeah. Do you ever tell coaches.

[H]

Yeah. During a game called on the red phone. Yeah, that'd be sweet. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We do that. We do that behind closed doors. No, we're all just talking like, hey, like, seriously, this guy, you know, maybe he deserves more playing time. Have we thought about this? We thought about that. And. And just. Just. Just open conversation. When Pete and I got together in 2010, we just said, like, no walls. Like, he'd worked with the jets and. And got let go with the jets, got let go with the Patriots. I got let go with the. With Marty Schottenheimer and the Redskins. And we're like, if we ever chance. Have a chance, a chance to do this, we're gonna do, like, no walls, no egos, all together, all ball.

[C]

That's it.

[H]

And then it's not. Yeah.

[G]

Being.

[A]

Everybody says that.

[D]

It's easier said than done.

[A]

Yeah, everybody says that. Like, actually executing that is.

[H]

Well, when egos. When egos come in. Yeah. When it's like, hey, that's my guy. You know, I scouted this guy. We should take this guy. Or, you know. You know, like, when you hear people say, well, I stood on the table for that guy, it's like the worst thing you can hear is a personal guy. Like, really? You stood on the table for the guy? So I'll actually make guys do what they do. Really? You love this guy? Why don't you stand on the table.

[A]

Hey, whatever the hell you're doing, it's working, dude. So congratulations.

[H]

Appreciate you guys.

[A]

I hope you enjoy it all. Are you staying? You'll watch all the workouts. Obviously you'll do that, because a lot of people.

[H]

I will watch the workouts on film now. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah, that's. That seems to be the new thing. Meetings matter, okay? I want see to see these people, talk to these people, try to get as much as possible. And then with how good the NFL Network and everybody does with tape, it's like, we can watch a show.

[E]

Yeah.

[H]

Jason Light was. We were talking last year and he was. He was getting ready to split, and I'm like, you're leaving already? He's like, don't. When you're at the Dome, do you watch the TV or do you watch the field? I'm like, I watch the tv.

[A]

Jumbotron.

[H]

I'm going home to watch it on my couch.

[A]

Hey. Longest season of anybody. Super bowl run. Congratulations. You got some shit to figure out, though, huh?

[H]

A lot of.

[C]

Yeah.

[H]

Yeah. Oh, I almost cussed.

[D]

Yeah.

[H]

A lot of stuff.

[B]

You're.

[A]

Don't do that.

[H]

That's all good stuff. All good stuff.

[A]

A lot of, though.

[H]

Yep.

[A]

When you win, that's kind of what comes with it. You've already been there, obviously. How are we allocating money? Where are we spending money?

[C]

You got to change, you know, coaching staff.

[H]

No, you just pay everybody.

[J]

Right.

[H]

Like, is now with the easy.

[A]

Right.

[H]

Former players.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

Did you see the cap went up?

[A]

Yeah, I saw.

[C]

Darnold deserves a raise, though, wouldn't you say?

[A]

Yeah, I think so.

[H]

I've heard all these things. I. I like, hear it in my sleep.

[C]

I mean, Jackson Smith and Jigba did just say he's. He's looking forward to being the highest paid receiver. That. That's a real thing.

[A]

Yeah. And then if we talk about highest paid player in the league, I mean, Dixon caused a turnover in the championship game.

[H]

Oh, yeah. How good is he, buddy? Is he unbelievable, right? Like, yeah, like, I don't know.

[D]

I don't scout part corners.

[H]

You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, well, you did. You got him. Holy cow.

[H]

This guy's like.

[A]

So all the Australian guys. Okay. Darren Bennett back in the day with the Chargers. I think he kind of came from the Aussie rules football thing, but, like, Dixon having the success that he had, I think opened the door for, like, everybody else being like, let's try to get this. I don't think there's another one.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

I think Dixon is. No matter what Continent.

[H]

Have you seen him do the side thing?

[A]

Yeah, the side wanted a banana ball. And then he. He. The one that he got the turnover on. Who's that against la? Off the shoulder, on the sideline or whatever. I sent him a dm. I'm like, yo, what ball was that? He was like, just sky, bro. He brought that thing down from the sky on purpose, like, he did.

[H]

He can drive it. He can angle it. He can, like. He can do, like, different spins with it.

[A]

And, man, he's unbelievable.

[H]

What was the guy's name we had in Green Bay when you were playing?

[A]

Tim Massa.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[H]

He got in the hot tub with Al Harris. Yeah. Yeah. Like, just, no, no clothes on. And Al's like, hey, man, Tim did. We don't do that. We don't do that.

[D]

I didn't see that.

[A]

Aj. You told him to do it.

[C]

AJ kind of showed him the road.

[D]

I would have loved to see Al's

[H]

face with Tim did that thing. Yeah, yeah. Sam Rams would tell you, but he could. That guy could run. Like, do the. The run and do the drop kick.

[A]

Yeah. Tim was a great athlete. Soccer player. Great soccer player. Wow. Tim. Really good guy. He came to the Colts first.

[H]

Was he from Australia?

[A]

No, Tim's from Kentucky.

[H]

Nope, different guy. Then New Zealand. This guy was from New Zealand or Australia. He was with us for, like, maybe in Green Bay. Yeah.

[D]

Dave Loney. Dave Loney was an Australian punter there in the office. Yeah. Off season. Can I still talk to him?

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Not Tim, Thank God. Let's clear Tim's name. Tim is a great dude. Tim is not getting any kind of tub without Harris. Yeah.

[H]

That is not definitely an Australian guy or New Zealand guy.

[D]

Yeah. Dave Loney is an Australian guy. I can see Dave doing that.

[H]

He's like six.

[B]

AJ still does it with bottoms off.

[A]

He actually did that too.

[H]

But so talented, man. Like.

[A]

Yeah, he did that to Alpha.

[D]

Do you back in. Do you back down the stuff?

[A]

No, I think you go front.

[D]

Put your cheeks right now.

[A]

I think you front down. I think you front.

[C]

Or you dip.

[A]

How many? You might.

[C]

You might. You might dip first. Test the water and get in.

[H]

You guys are making me nervous, man.

[A]

You're the one who told the story. What are you talking.

[B]

You just won the Super Bowl.

[A]

You're fine. Yeah, you're like, do whatever you want.

[B]

You got a lot of le.

[A]

One of the greatest gms. One all time, Tim Mass. They.

[B]

And you might get a new one.

[D]

Was fully clothed in the hot tub.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Oh. Oh, good call. There, Tone. So they're saying 10 billion, but the Miami Dolphins were allegedly worth 10 billion like three years ago. So who knows what that number is going to become. Shout out to the Allen family. Shout to Jody. By the way, that was such a cool moment for. Yeah, shout out, Jody. Hell yeah. Clap. See, and I spoke at the Women's Forum with Carly and Kaylin, and it's like seeing woman owner up there take the. Was cool. Cool like that. That was a very cool moment. Especially with how much the NFL is, you know, investing in women, becoming a bigger piece of football as a whole, starting with flag football in high school, trying to get it. What's that called, sanctioned. And then trying to build Olympics. Sam Rapaport. With the Olympics coming, it was like really cool to see that. And I don't know Jody personally. I heard she's very tight. She doesn't have a lot of.

[H]

Yeah, she's awesome.

[A]

Not a lot of anonymous sources coming out of Jody's office. Like, there's very rarely any leaks or anything like that. Feel like she's been a great leader of the ship. $10 billion, what they're talking about. How much are you involved in all that? Because I assume you're going to be the carryover to the next. I'm not ownership.

[H]

I'm not. I wanted to, you know, get with George Payton down here, you know, because they went through it in Denver and, And I just, I don't. I don't know what's coming. I don't have the experience with it. So I need somebody to coach me up on it and, and what that looks like. And I've been, you know, Tracy, my wife and I have been able to. Blessed to be able to work with, you know, a team, the packers, that doesn't have an owner. Lamar Hunt, Daniel Snyder, Paul Allen, now Jody, so very, you know, all very different people. So I'm. Yeah, I'm just.

[A]

Well, you. You being there is upping the value, brother. And maybe you renegotiate as soon as they get there.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Trying to get your money.

[H]

Another former four year comment.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. Go get it, man.

[D]

Yeah, do it.

[A]

You're welcome. Yeah, appreciate it if you'd like to put a little public pressure on this new ownership. Okay. Oh, welcome to the league. You just want to get rid of your general manager. Okay. Why don't we give this guy a new deal? Let's lock him down. 10 years, $100 million. Let's win a couple more Super Bowls. We appreciate the hell out of you.

[H]

Hey, man, I appreciate you. I'm so glad you guys had Mike on this. It was so fun for me to be able to turn it on. Like, hey, when are you gonna be on, man? And McCarthy. McCarthy. Yeah.

[B]

Big Mike.

[H]

It was so cool.

[A]

How about him? Back in the game.

[H]

I know. It's so awesome.

[A]

I'm happy.

[H]

Just had lunch with him.

[A]

How was it? How is it? He's a jolly.

[H]

Yeah. Y. Yep. He can see his. His neighborhood from his office.

[A]

That is really, really cool.

[H]

I can't do the accent like you guys do, though, but.

[C]

Yeah, it's just pits for people.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it helps when you were born there.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Everybody has.

[B]

Just like us, I guess everybody does that for us.

[H]

This is fun. Appreciate you guys.

[A]

Like. Yeah. Will you come on again?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Come back home. Yeah. We need you back.

[C]

You're here tomorrow.

[B]

Are you busy during the draft?

[A]

Draft spectacular.

[H]

I. Yeah, no. I guess you got to win a world championship to get on the show. I've been like, yeah, texting with aj. I can see all these other.

[A]

Oh, is that right, aj? Is that right, aj?

[H]

I see all these other gms on there. I'm like, Jay, I thought aj I thought we were guys. Like, I thought, you know, I've thrown

[D]

your name out many times.

[A]

That is not true. That is a lie. AJ has been d. Come on.

[B]

That.

[D]

He's too busy.

[H]

Many leather bound books.

[A]

Yeah. The man, Ladies and gentlemen, the general manager of the Seattle Seahawks. So many. John Schneider. Now, before you leave.

[D]

Oh, we can sling it.

[A]

Come on, boss.

[H]

What are we doing?

[D]

You can throw your arm.

[C]

Take that headset off so it doesn't yank you.

[A]

1000-001000-00100 thousand happened to me. 100,000. $100,000 donation charity here, John.

[C]

Go on, John.

[A]

Coming this way.

[C]

No.

[A]

All right, you're lefty. You see that hole right there? You're a lefty. Okay, hold on, hold on.

[D]

He's ready.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

How old are you? 54. You look good. You're great for a Catholic, too. 54. How often do you throw football? Active, everything like that.

[H]

Not very.

[A]

No.

[H]

Two torn labrums, so. No. No, not very much at all, brother.

[A]

So this would be very impressive. Impressive. Hundred thousand dollars, you're able to make it in the hole. Joshua super bowl winning general manager. Two different eras in Seattle. Backwards hat. Oh, no. You got two more. You got two more opportunities. You got two more opportunities like you're on a man. I like that. You want still professional, Ms. Nobody will be the next Stallone.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Oh, wait a Minute. Last ball here now, John. This is the one. Make Sam Donald proud. God. Oh, no.

[C]

All right, wait, the top's not open. The top should be.

[A]

Thank you so much. Hey, we hope. Will you join us draft night after you make a pick? Well, you won't make a pick. Last.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

32.

[A]

Will you join us on draft night? All right, Sweet. We got him on the show at 1am Appreciate you.

[C]

Great to meet you, man. Good luck.

[D]

The top should be open.

[C]

Never again versus New England.

[A]

Thank you.

[C]

He said. Yeah.

[A]

All right, John, I'll tell you what. That was exciting. He's good.

[C]

He's the man.

[A]

He's really funny.

[B]

He's a great guy.

[J]

Just gave me a comment.

[B]

I couldn't hear it because my headphones on. I wish I.

[C]

He said, I'll see you down the road.

[B]

I think he said, like that was the best question anyone's ever asked me or something.

[C]

Oh, nice.

[B]

Yeah, I think so.

[H]

I couldn't.

[A]

There's a lot of microphones up here. Somebody would have picked that up.

[B]

Yeah, I didn't hear that. We'll listen back.

[C]

He said like, I love you. You know, Ball to me.

[A]

To you.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

So when he said aj. I know what he said. Yeah, you big.

[D]

He got movie lines from like four

[A]

different leather bound books. I mean, he was in there. He was really in his bag. We appreciate him. He can do whatever the hell he wants. Won the Super Bowl. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now. Holy. I just see the silhouette. Oh, my God.

[D]

So big.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, the head coach of the Tennessee Titans, Coach Robert. What a moment. Monster,

[C]

man.

[A]

Oh.

[D]

Oh, you don't want to start that. What's up, Coach? How are you?

[A]

I just wanted to see.

[C]

How you doing, Coach?

[A]

I just want to see.

[B]

Coach, how are you? I wouldn't be testing pleasure.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. Appreciate you guys.

[B]

Strapping on.

[A]

I believe the general manager is here as well. Right? Can he come home? Absolutely. Holy. I just got. I'm sorry. I just got got. Ladies and gentlemen, general manager, Tennessee type my panzi. Hey, paisan. I assume I don't want to guess too much. Are you paisan? Is it Boni, Paisan. Gazi panzi. Okay. I don't want to do too much. I don't want to do too much.

[B]

We've been off.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, sorry. We don't want to piss anybody off. That was good Dap Upper. Coach, you're huge. No. Oh.

[J]

Middlesex. Little underweight.

[A]

You're a monster. No, you actually.

[J]

Dan Campbell's a monster.

[A]

We've talked about you guys all fighting. Dan Campbell, obviously in conversation. You and Liam Con almost obviously want the.

[C]

Yeah, still waiting for that to after it.

[A]

We had a tale of the tape. I'll tell you what, the tale of the tape did not describe completely the silhouette that I saw over here. So people that don't know off of the set here, there's just windows here, here at the stadium, so we can't see anybody's face. So I can't. At least I don't know about everybody else. So people are walking by, and I'm just seeing silhouettes. I'm trying to guess. And I scan this thing, and then I see a mountain of a human being over here. Looks like the Rock, and it's like, holy shit, that's Bob Sala. Yep. So thank you so much for coming, Mike. You as well. Thank you so much for joining us. Congrats on the gig down there in Tennessee. You go back to San Francisco. Is it a fallback in love with football situation? Recalibrate perspective situation? How would you describe kind of that whole thing from head coach of jets back to D.C. now head coach again? How do you kind of calibrate it all?

[J]

You know, obviously, so much respect for San Francisco. And I've said it before, it's a championship organization, championship ownership. Kyle Shanahan is a championship head coach. John lynch, the entire. The entire outfit is a championship outfit. And for me, it was more about going back to a place that one I recognize as a championship organization after being a head coach, because I felt like it would help me just kind of recalibrate, maybe. Maybe see something that I may have missed the first time around as a D coordinator, having the empathy of Kyle and the chair that he's in and understanding the decisions he's making to help me piece the puzzle a little bit better together. And so that if I did get another opportunity, which. Thank goodness. I appreciate you, Mike.

[A]

Grazie.

[J]

I do. I feel like I was preparing myself to bring more to the table.

[A]

We've seen a lot of quarterbacks get their second chance and obviously go at it. There's a lot that comes across the table whenever you're a head coach that maybe you don't get to see. What do you think you are kind of better suited for now with Tennessee as opposed to the first time you get to New York, New York. We followed along from outside. I'm sure you heard us. Follow along. Seems like there's always a lot of shit you don't have to say that started in 1977. They just blind guy. And that's why the Medical is, I think Borgonza, you know their history. Yeah. So the jets actually drafted a guy blind one eye. And then they, the next year they made it like, hey, we gotta at least see the Medicals on everybody. That's kinda how the combine all came together. So that's 1977. Jets all the way through. Okay. It's been plateau since so. And obviously you're there and we all watch it, especially with how many people it is what comes across your desk that you go, wow, I did not expect to have to deal with this or I did not want to deal with this. And how do you think that kind of changes for you next now in Tennessee with the Titans organization?

[J]

I, I, I think it's just all encompassing. You know, like, I've said it a few times that there, there's no handbook to the first time that you ever do anything. I'm sure your first episode is not nearly as good as it as it is now.

[A]

Oh yeah, it was terrible.

[J]

But you know,

[A]

we're actually waiting for people to bring that up and hang it over our heads.

[J]

But you, you learn through your experiences and, you know, I'm grateful for the opportunity that I had in New York. There was a tremendous learning experience, just dealing with all the different things that come to your plate as a head coach. And there's a lot of things that happened throughout the tenure that there is no, like I said, there's no preparing for them. But I could say that I'm very confident in saying that I'm more prepared now than I ever was and excited to take what I learned in New York and apply it to this new opportunity.

[A]

We can't wait to watch in the AFC South. Hope you win every game but a couple of them.

[B]

So we just want to see you smile again.

[A]

We do. Felt like you lost your happiness over there. You saw it, you felt it and you were living it. So I, we're happy to see you back. We do love that. And for you, Paisan, obviously Salah is a name that was up in the head coaching. Like for this coaching cycle, hardball becomes available. Obviously that becomes like, hey, we're doing that. Cleveland Kevin Stefanski, his name pops up, he gets a job immediately. I don't think I expected that, but after talking to Matt Ryan, it felt like he did his name immediately going, what was it about him that makes you think now is the perfect time for him to be the Tennessee Titans head coach? And what is kind of the sell for what this next version of the Tennessee Titans is in your eyes. Yeah.

[E]

I mean, I've obviously had so much respect for Robert here. You know, the first opportunity really we played him when I was in Kansas city is that 19 Super Bowl. And just seeing the, the way he put together that defense and the energy that they play with, the guys love playing for him. Right. So you could feel his leadership even just watching TV sometimes right on the sidelines, like the guys loved him. And you can hear it from the players. The players will tell you throughout the league. So, you know, for us, you know, we wanted to, when we went through that head coaching process is like, we need a leader in here. Like a guy that can just take command of this place, that has a, a presence, that, that has a football mind. And the more, you know, we never worked together before, but the more that, you know, we did our research and, and when we finally brought Robert in here, he was exactly what we're looking for in terms of that.

[A]

Tell me about Cam Ward, because obviously Callahan was talking about how he's talking shit to somebody while I'm giving him a play call. And then we watch him against the Colts. There's a couple throws that he makes and it's like, I don't know how many humans can make that throw. Season goes the way it goes. Tell me about the future with Cam and how do you think, like, you know, coach here and him are going to get along? I think perfect personality traits for each other. It feels like.

[E]

I think it's, it's going to be a perfect match. And then bring Brian Dable in here too, as the O.C. but Cam, you bald.

[A]

You can see that.

[E]

We got the baldest.

[C]

Yeah, I saw, I saw the 22 coaches all bald.

[A]

Feels like you guys are kind of harassed, but I don't want to get in it.

[E]

You can see

[H]

I got to shave my head here.

[A]

Yes. Hey, you guys. Hey, buy in AFC South. I think that thing has to go. I, I think that is something to think about. We haven't had in 11 years. I don't know about you guys. I think more recently than, than us, but. Yeah. Tell me a little bit about Cam Ward and the, the vision. Cuz we think he's an incredible talent. We love. I got a chance to chat with him a couple different times. I like the way he is. What are your thoughts on him?

[E]

Yeah, I mean, obviously you see the physical trip and the throws that he makes and everything that we gathered from, you know, watching him at Miami, Washington State and doing all the research on Him. The dude is wired, right?

[D]

Right.

[E]

He's a competitor. He loves football, Just loves everything about it. He doesn't have any other hobbies. He's in the office all the time watching tape. And it's even like going back to when we first got him at that rookie minicamp. I walked in at like 5:15 in the morning, and I see the lights on in there, and he's in there. He's got the whole group in there watching t tape. And this isn't like, fake. And he wasn't, like, wanting attention for this. You know, the guys gravitate towards him and that leadership ability. And then just getting to the season last year, I think it was great, even though, you know, the losses were there. But you saw him get better throughout the season, even though we were losing those games. But you saw the talent. And, you know, I think the vision here is going to be great with Coach Solar and Dable.

[A]

98 million, I think.

[E]

What's that?

[A]

Is that the number 98 million?

[E]

98 million, yeah.

[A]

Is that what you guys have?

[E]

Oh, for cap space?

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No, it's most in a league.

[C]

98.9? More like 99.

[E]

Sorry.

[A]

99 million. I'm sorry I screwed you out of a veteran mint.

[E]

A little more than that, but yeah.

[A]

Oh, so we're up over 100. You're up over 100 million.

[H]

It's close to that, yeah.

[A]

Okay. So obviously, absolutely. Dynamics are interesting. Head coach and general manager, they always talk about alignment. Okay. I assume because of who he is, with the amount of respect everybody holds, we're all on the same page. Spending $100 million while also having draft. That's quick turnaround time, right? Is that the envision, the mindset? And what do you think the city of Nashville needs to get the Titans on top as a whole, in your eyes?

[E]

I mean, we're certainly going to attack both acquisition periods here. And I think that you have to say discipline to your process. You know, you're still trying to build team in a locker room and a culture, and you do that through the draft. And we're certainly going to, you know, have our hand in free agency as well, too, here. And there's going to be some great opportunities to add some players in free agency, but really, through the draft is really, you have to build that foundation initially. And Robert's been through it before and I've been through it in the past, and you want to build it right? You got to build it through the draft.

[A]

Robert, you think about putting Jelly Roll at wide Receiver, you can come out to practice.

[J]

We'll give him a shot.

[A]

He's awesome, dude.

[J]

Oh no. I've. I've heard nothing but great things, especially for raising a family. Man, I can't wait.

[A]

Dude. It is littered with talent. Obviously the nicest people and they love ball. I mean, look what happened with Vandy. Vandy got going down there and the entire city was like, yep, we're. We love Vandy now. It's like I think they're yearning for a great football team when Vrabel leaves. I think they all felt like that was their connection to Vrabel, was the city's connection to the team. I feel like they're gonna really like your mentality, your attitude. Have you been in Nashville? Have you got to experience Nashville? How has it been?

[J]

I've never been to Nashville. This is gonna be my first go around obviously when we played. But shoot, I hide in a hotel room anyway. But yeah, we're excited. My wife, my kids are all excited.

[A]

They're.

[J]

They're chomping at the bit to get down there.

[A]

So how many kids again?

[H]

Eight. Eight.

[J]

Eight blessings.

[A]

Geez.

[D]

Still going.

[J]

She gets me when I'm sleeping.

[A]

Not a bad deal. I have a daughter who's two and a half and I got a boy on the way. When I see people, I mean he's got four, I believe Phil's got four kids. I'm like, how? I don't know how you just. Badass wife, badass.

[J]

She runs it.

[A]

That's what a starting basketball, which I assume they will be. We got a starting basketball team. We're going to almost have a starting 11 out there and the city of Nashville is going to love it. If you can get the Titans to be great down there, it is a beautiful thing. Connor has a question for you.

[C]

Yeah, player, you have. Coach Jeffrey Simmons is coming off like one of a historic year. It feels like he was kind of the bright spot of the Titans. Have you talked to him? Is he kind of the guy you've gone to to establish your culture and what do you kind of expect out of him going forward with Tennessee now?

[J]

We, we've had a chance to visit it. Looking forward to him showing up in April and really getting to know him, really getting to know the rest of the group. But Jeffrey is as good as anybody in football and we're looking forward to doing everything we can to help him find another level. And you know, I feel like our system is tailor made for his skill set and you know what's important right now? Is to surround him with some guys who can get to the quarterback and help him out and to try to create one on one. And if we can do that, I think whatever he did last year is going to be a blip.

[A]

He's the guy that variables. He didn't want to fight, right?

[C]

Bingo. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Variable said he fight everybody on team but him.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

I think that was kind of the

[B]

verbatim Coach said he would even fight Simmons.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, just looking at your silhouette over there.

[J]

Yeah.

[A]

It's going to be hard for me to pick you against anybody. Against you. Yeah. That was a crazy thing that just happened there. Go ahead, Tone. Were you intimidated when he walked out in. Mike, would you. When he walks in, He's a Boston guy.

[C]

He's from Everett.

[A]

He's.

[C]

He's not intimidated by anybody except Weddy Bulger. Is that okay?

[B]

There was a saw in it.

[A]

Yeah, there was a couple. Yeah. Little southy.

[B]

He dropped into it.

[H]

We stayed out of south when we

[E]

were younger, but yeah, smart.

[B]

Mike, I did have a question to you because they say, you know, positions of need for you could be wide receiver or edge, and they also say that is. Is where this draft is best at. Do you agree with that and have you. Is it way too early in the process to have an idea of what position you're going to go with at this point?

[E]

You know, we've gone through, like, the phase one of setting the board here before the combine, so you can see, you know, it's the initial grades. You're not going to make a ton of changes here after the combine. But, yeah, there is value there at both spots, you know, for sure. But now you go through this next phase here of gathering all this information. You get the medical character now you have to go through with the coaches now and sit down and get their take on these players. And it's important you have the same vision for them, too. So that's what's going to go on here for the next, like, two months as we get through it. But there's certainly, you know, value at those positions as well. And there's values at some other positions, too, up there, too. But certainly those two spots you said,

[A]

I think last year, you don't pass on a generational talent. Do you remember that. Was that you that said that? I think I'm trying to remember talking about Cam Wood. Yeah, but no, we didn't know. Oh, yeah, we didn't know who you were talking about. Yeah. Is that just. Were you playing cards there like you just don't pass on generational talent. And then you walk off. You're like, well that should everybody up. Is that what because you did. I remember it was like a two month period after you said that where it was like, we're like the paisan from Boston said something about a generational town. Then people are like, is Cam Ward.

[B]

We're like, abdo Carter's really good too.

[A]

Yeah. Travis Hunter was.

[C]

Oh yeah.

[D]

Generation.

[A]

Yeah. So were you playing? You were playing to get just. Now you can come clear with us so we know whether or not we should believe the you're saying whenever you talk to us. Was that. Did you know what you were doing at that point whenever you said that? No.

[E]

I mean there's so much that's thrown out there.

[C]

Yes, it is.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

It is like constantly.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

You said that though, in not only our show. I mean every show is like, what does that mean? Talking about so wide receiver and a db, first time ever.

[E]

That's.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That feels generational. Abdel Carter got played through a separated shoulder. He seemingly unblocked. Cam Ward though, definitely a talent. Could be we were just trying to pick your brain and now we're listening. I was trying to get out of the question to tell you. AJ has a question for you, Coach.

[D]

You'll cliche answer question people give you like, hey, what kind of we turn. We turn a tape on. What kind of team are we going to see when we watch the Tennessee Titans? Every coach says, I want a tough, physical team that, you know, balls to the wall effort like. But I guess what is going to be your message to the team when in a couple of months when they do all come back for off season workouts.

[J]

You know, overall I think when to a player and obviously you played at a high level for a long time. Like your silent tape is your. Is you, it is your resume. And what do you want that silent tape to represent? And for us it's being fast, it's being violent and, and how you get to that. Obviously there's a. It's not just picking guys who are f and violent. There's a, there's a, there's a team aspect to it in terms of how we teach and how we get information to our guys. But you talk about our style of play and what we want to be known for. And when people are watching and they can't hear anything and you're. You've got an opponent watching your tape in a dark room by himself with no sound, what are you telling them? We want that thing to scream speed and violence.

[A]

So you wanted to the boat eagle. Fine. Crow comes and the crow.

[J]

Good old crow and the eagle.

[A]

That was my first time hearing it. That was my first time here. I thought it was good. I thought it was good. Have you thought about what you're going to do here for Tennessee for first team meeting? Have you.

[J]

You know what we're. I'm still working through that. You know.

[A]

Do you want us to brainstorm for you or you guys can.

[C]

It's Nashville. Toby Keith. I think you go right with Toby Keith, Tim McGraw. Like who do you want to be? You want to be a Toby or do you want to be someone who isn't Toby Keith?

[A]

I think there's something to think about. Tootsie's been around a long time. South Florida one, the Nashville one. Two different bonding, very different places. Maybe Broadway. Talk about Broadway.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean the amount of hit. I mean we go to big Loud. You know we got so many ideas. We got so many ideas.

[B]

Is the new stadium this season or next 27?

[A]

No. So you guys are still in the same stadium this year and then moving in the next one. Yeah.

[D]

Looks really nice.

[C]

One of the only stadiums that's going to be a rectangle not I believe

[B]

it's a hundred yard bar as well which in trouble intrigues me. Something to think about.

[J]

That's incredible.

[A]

That's. How many bartenders you got $100 million in cap space. Okay. Sounds like.

[E]

Yep.

[A]

Got a brand new stadium coming. You got the city of Nashville which probably 10 cranes up right now building in there and you got Robert Sala as your head coach.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Pretty optimistic times for the Tennessee Titans I would say.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

That was exciting.

[A]

It you know, brand new logo too. The fanatics kind of forced you guys made it bald.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Yeah. You know what I mean? So there's a lot of action

[B]

day balls there.

[A]

Who would love you and day ball. When you guys were both in New York did you text each other and say this sucks.

[J]

A lot of empathy between me and D all just having a lot of conversations and being being able to practice together. But I love Dave's man. Got to know him. Like I've said it before, like when I was a coordinator, when we were both coordinators and you go I was like I always thought he was an asshole, you know, just a jerk. You go say hello to him. He won't say hi. He just kind of brushes you by. And my first interaction with him was when he was a first year head coach and we're at the owners meeting, I was like, man, this guy's pretty freaking cool. And we just, you know, we start having conversations. But he's awesome, he's a great teammate, excited to have him.

[A]

When you are looking for that particular. When day ball pops up, it's like, who's good for Cam? Who's good for the Titans? How do you kind of enable both, I guess is kind of how you view that. Kind of feels like a home run higher at that.

[J]

Yeah, there is for this team. I won't talk about the process too much, but for this team, I felt like day ball 100% for what this quarterback needs and what his strengths are. I felt like day ball would be a really good fit for him. You know, his temperament, the way he teaches his history of young quarterbacks being in the college games game. Reese. I mean, more recently than me for that matter, but winning a national championship at Alabama. But Dave's is perfect for the situation.

[A]

He blows through cigars too.

[C]

Oh yeah. And stinks.

[A]

I think they. I think, I think he's a chain cigar smoker.

[H]

Yes.

[A]

Which I didn't even know you could do. Once again, Dog Tone has the last question for you boys.

[B]

Yeah, Mike, I did.

[C]

I just.

[B]

You were at KC for so, so, so long. What was it like 15 something?

[E]

16.

[B]

16 years. What is the one thing that you wanted to take from obviously organization that won all those championships over to Tennessee.

[E]

Yeah, that's a great question. You know, the one thing, it started at the top with Andy and the way he created that culture there. And you could feel it from day one when he got in there, there was no division.

[H]

Right.

[E]

Coaches are going to work together, the scouts going to work together and bringing the right time type of people. And that's how you build a culture. You got to get talented coaches, players, scouts, but you got to get the right type of people that work together. And that's like the biggest thing I took. Sometimes we, we make things harder than they really are.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

And if you find a bunch of good people that work together that are smart, you can accomplish some pretty cool

[A]

things with a good attitude.

[E]

With a good attitude.

[A]

Yeah. I think that's the biggest thing. You get a bunch of people around each other that hate each other, you're not going to do it. But if you got a bunch of people like each other, feels like they're going to go further together, seems like everything you guys are about, we like. So we are hoping for your success. Except for two games a year, what do you do? You a peloton guy You. You still lifting weights?

[J]

Peloton, Little lifting, little lifting.

[A]

Bike. Peloton or bike? Okay, so you're. I'm hauling ass every day.

[J]

I got to get. I got to get back into a rhythm.

[A]

Oh, you're fat.

[J]

But I've gone for. I've gone about 170, 107 weeks doing at least one ride.

[A]

You're an animal. What's the lifting? What's the lifting? We're just doing show lifting.

[J]

It's show lifting. There's nothing functional about this.

[A]

Let's say you and Dan Campbell, okay, two gorillas, see each other, okay? And you guys actually decide, just without saying anything, fuck it. Let's see.

[C]

Let's throw it out.

[A]

Let's see who this is. Okay, Right now you're saying you're more muscles, not ready to pick up and explode if have to.

[J]

You know, when I look at a guy like Dan, this is the best way I can explain it. I was a D2 athlete. He was a professional athlete. He's just built different, bud.

[A]

No, you are built different. You are built different. I have massive respect for the 107 weeks, at least one ride on Peloton. I assume that's some sort of record. They should give you, like, a point or something. And the fact that you're now a head coach again, again in the NFL. Obviously, we're pumped for you, proud for you. There's only 32 of their jobs, dude. Excited to see what you do down there in Nashville. Can you throw?

[H]

Give it a shot.

[A]

So you know what I'm asking right now?

[J]

Yeah, I know what you're asking.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, let's do it. Here we go, Coach. Okay. This will be for a Nashville charity.

[B]

All right.

[A]

I don't know if this thing.

[D]

He's too tall for that thing.

[E]

Jeez.

[C]

Careful now. Coach, Coach.

[A]

Hold on, Coach. Hold on, Coach. I'm getting on the high side. How old are you?

[J]

47.

[C]

What?

[A]

Okay. What? What? What is. What are you. What? I'm Irish. German. Just so I get it. Accurate.

[J]

Lebanese.

[A]

Lebanese. Okay. Great food, right? The Lebanese, the best food. Well, okay. The Italians. I mean, you got. A couple of times.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Okay, so we got a little Lebanese food versus Italian food. Little battle down there in Nashville. I love everything about it. Savers, Canada, 46 years old, jacked. Robert Salah, defensive coordinator, now head coach for the Tennessee Titans, trying to win $100,000 for a charity of your choosing. Are you ready, Robert?

[J]

Let's do it.

[A]

Good luck, sir. Defensive coordinator, is he throwing D2? He's holy. That was the worst throw we've had.

[C]

Said D2 Bob.

[A]

Is he throwing balls?

[C]

The guys.

[A]

It was slippy. It was slippy. It was slippy. He was slippy. A little slippy there.

[C]

Money.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on. This is the lawn. Low was the worst one we've seen. High, best spiral leaf seed. So now the third one. If we're just able to put it in between there. If we're able to put it in the hole. 100,000. The big Lebanese man. Congratulations. Thank you so much. Ladies and gentlemen, the head coach and the general manager of the Tennessee Titans. Titans, Labrad, Salah and Begunzi. Yeah, boys, that was a hell of a throw. Hey, after that first one, I thought you had no shot.

[B]

Good luck, Coach. Good luck, Mike.

[A]

What a throw. All right. Good work, Cedo. All right, Mike. Win. All right. Every game but two, Mike. Every game but two. Oh, they're. They're going to win.

[D]

More than that.

[A]

I think I like the Titans all of a sudden. Seriously, I don't like that. I do that.

[B]

Good crew.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Everybody but the Colts. I feel great about in the nfc, afc. I mean, that is a bummer. I'm being, like, kind of serious. It's a bummer.

[B]

Titans, Jags. Who am I missing?

[F]

Oh, Texas.

[A]

How about Nick Casseria saying trading CJ is moronic? Okay, we're not doing it. Thanks. Next question. It's like, but maybe. No, we're not doing it.

[C]

What's your name?

[A]

I wonder.

[H]

Shout out.

[B]

Go after Doug Mills, though.

[A]

Maybe, you know, the Colts. Everybody's just assuming that we're getting any dimes back.

[B]

Jets a quarterback still.

[D]

What do they have to pay him to get him back?

[A]

That's what I'm saying. We're. Everybody's just assuming in Indianapolis that. Danny. There was posts from the cold social media, which we know doesn't mean anything. This social media person trying to put out good content. It was Mendoza and Daniel Jones at Super bowl, and they're like, Indiana quarterbacks. I'm like, do we do. Do we know that?

[J]

Are we sure?

[A]

Do we know they also have a lot.

[B]

There's been a lot of Alec Pierce posts as well.

[A]

And then there's talks about Pittman being gone. It's like Pittman carries a $29 million cap. It. Okay, I understand that. That some people are like, is that what we're going to pay Michael Pittman? It's like Michael Pittman is a priceless commodity for the Indianapolis Colts. When we had culture issues, he was the only Guy that would literally try to break his face every single play. This guy showed up for us every single time. When Jonathan Taylor was holding out, first year Shane Steichen, rookie quarterback, trying to reset a whole new culture. And he's holding out wearing a hood at training camp, which, once again, he got his money. He did what he got to do as soon as he gets paid. After doing that, I think our media thought was, like, pittman needs to do the same thing. Pittman is more valuable to this team than anybody else other than Jonathan Taylor. So the thought of us just moving on from him was crazy for me to see, like, everybody on Colts Internet being cool, just being like, yeah, yeah, we gotta move on from. Sure, we gotta do that. It's like, oh, I don't know if you want to lose that type of culture. Builder in the build, like, he's one

[C]

of our best plays hurt all the time.

[A]

Saw him bent in half all the time. All the time. And it's like, well, when Daniel Jones was playing quarterback, Alec Pierce was his weapon. Michael Pitman wants to get in the ball much. He's like our fourth option. You know, we got Tyler Warren, Jonathan Taylor. Now you got Alec Pierce with deep ball. It's like, okay, you're starting to make sense. But I don't know if we should just be moving on from a guy that, like, loves being a cult and, like, like, works his ass off and, like, wants to be here, because we've had problems with that in the not so distant future. So our past.

[C]

So in 29 million for, like, a receiver of his caliber. Is not what it used to. Is not what 29 million was three years ago.

[A]

But we gotta pay Daniel Jones. Jonathan Taylor's gonna want a new dude.

[C]

Well, there you go.

[A]

Yeah. So it's like, I understand why everybody. I don't understand why everybody was just so, like, yeah, let's move on.

[C]

Nonchalant.

[A]

Yeah, it was just like, yeah, we're moving on from. It's like, we're moving on from Michael Pippen.

[B]

There's a lot of that happening the last couple weeks. And now that everyone's been asked about at the combine. Now, everyone could be lying, but it seems like a lot of those probably weren't true.

[A]

What's that, then? We're moving on from Pittman.

[B]

No, Pittman. Like, we're moving on from this player.

[A]

We're moving Max Crosby. Yeah, it does feel like there's a lot of smoke and that might be coming from. And we don't want to give away the game. But that could be agents, like just trying to hide especially. So whenever they get here, they can say like, hey, don't know if you're interested, we got a little bit of a thing kind of working out here. So there's always a game being played. We understand that. And hopefully the game of football was played well for the Colts. AFC South's going to be great. A lot of people said it was ass. And all of a sudden Liam Cohen, who doesn't come to the combine,

[B]

guess he doesn't care about players meetings.

[A]

Well, well, well.

[C]

Communication issue maybe.

[D]

It's all taped. It's all filmed.

[A]

Other.

[B]

Other teams. Interviews are filmed in Sento.

[C]

Other team.

[D]

What do you mean, other teams?

[B]

Like the. The interviews that they're doing here. Are they. They're. The teams that are doing the interviews are here. Send them the Jaguars.

[D]

No, if you're interviewing.

[A]

If.

[D]

If I am the Jaguars or interviewer player, he will get to watch it at home.

[B]

Oh, you're saying they sent people.

[A]

They record it. Yeah. John Schneider mentioned the recorded interview. They record some of those interviews. You heard him say, like, yeah, we can watch the interviews now. From some else. You heard him kind of give a.

[D]

I think co. Changed a lot of that.

[C]

How do you know if they smell, though?

[D]

That's true, that's true. Like if a diet. If a guy smells like self awareness, if he farts, that's one thing that we can handle. That if a guy has bad bo. I don't know if I could sign

[C]

or if he's super fat, breath, doesn't brush his teeth in the morning, he can't do it.

[A]

What if he. What if he has bad breath and he smells and then you say, hey, for tomorrow, I don't want you smelling. Brush your teeth. And then he comes back, he doesn't do it again. Those are little.

[B]

He's off my boy.

[A]

Forward. Yeah, definitely.

[C]

Unless he says, sorry, coach, I've been working all night. I've been working on my crap.

[A]

What have you been doing? Oh, I've been gnawing rocks and ball. Yeah.

[C]

Chewing on a football.

[A]

All right, let's get out of here. We've done enough.

[B]

Love the combo.

[A]

Sure.

[C]

Yeah. Combine.

[A]

Look at this setup, dude.

[D]

It's awesome.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Indianapolis Little Exhaust Stadium. We're hosting a combine.

[C]

24 divisional champs.

[A]

That's a huge.

[B]

Never forget.

[D]

It's been a while.

[A]

I told John schneider It's been 11 years since Colts won. He goes, what?

[D]

Yeah, he did. He was genuinely shocked.

[A]

Eyes huge.

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Titans 20, 21 thought about it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

That was their last division.

[A]

Who was quarterback? Ryan Tanner, Mike Rabel, number one and Derek Henry. That was the Kansas City Chiefs started.

[B]

It's when they sacked Burrow a thousand times.

[A]

Seven.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

When Cincy went 11.

[B]

I think it was 11, 10, 11.

[C]

It started that high. Most sacked postseason ever till.

[A]

Jerk. Let's go some other stories around football. Obviously, high schoolers are now getting nil deals to be professional football players in college. Seniors in high school are no longer doing their spring senior year. They're going to the football teams. If you remember, Kevin nailed it. Commits to the West Virginia Mountaineers on our program. Lights a couch on fire immediately. Dad cuts a promo.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

He squatted 605 pounds.

[C]

What?

[A]

Yeah. He's 18 years old. Supposed to be going to prom. Yeah. This is coming out of the West Virginia weight room. I like that we're moving. Wait. Kevin Brown. Shout out to him. 655. Sorry, not 605. 655. What? That's an 18 year old.

[B]

Good to see he hasn't stopped drinking the ooze since we talked to him last night.

[A]

He certainly hasn't. This guy is a freak. He's a tone in a look at those quads. He's a tone setter. Yeah. He's a changer. West Virginia's about to be back because of him. And we knew that immediately upon him making his announcement on this show and then him and his whole family lighting an entire portion of a town on fire. Damn. And I'm excited about that. He's the strongest guy on the team, I think. I don't know.

[B]

Probably.

[A]

No, he is. Yeah. I'd be getting texts from there. It's like, hey, Kevin's the strongest kid on the team. And I'm like, don't love that. Good or bad.

[I]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. But then you're seeing him Squad 6ft 5. It's like this guy might be the strongest guy on a lot of teams. So we are very lucky that he's there. Shout to football being back spring ball for college and then obviously the combine here for the NFL. NHL is about to drop the puck back after an Olympic run. That was electrifying. I believe we'll have Megan Keller on the program this week at some point. She is in the middle of her PWHL league, which I think they quoted and talked about after the Olympics about not being able to make some things happen because we have. We have some academic stuff going on. We have some professional stuff going on. We didn't immediately, you know, weren't going to be open. I did offer to send her plane to fly her here to be a part of show and she didn't want to miss born so skate for a team. So like it's like that type of respect I respect so much. Like, hey, would love to fly you in here, fly you back. We'll be so thankful. And she said I can't be missing any of my practices with my team. I'm like, respect. So she'll be coming on, I believe tomorrow. And then we got Jack Hughes. Hell yeah. Flying in on Friday. He'll. He'll be here flying in. Cannot wait to chat with him. What a week he has had.

[H]

Yep.

[A]

I believe he is enjoying the moment as he should. His family has done so much for USA Hockey. I. I mean the more we learn about Quinn, Jack, mom, dad, family, Michigan, Team usa, all that type of stuff, they've committed their entire beings to hockey. So for him to have that moment in the stars is. Is just a beautiful thing. We're so incredibly thankful for all the USA athletes that represent him from. For our country and let the rest of the world know that if we wanted to do your little sport, do it, we'll be better than you. Shout out to America.

[B]

Hell yeah.

[A]

A lot of people don't feel that way. Them don't ever, ever be able to get them. Never be able to get them. They should be proud of our athletes. We certainly are. And we can't wait to chat with them. All right, we're back here tomorrow live from the combine. We can't thank enough for allowing us to do this for a little. Tom, good work today, buddy. You're having more bets of the day tomorrow.

[B]

Yeah, I got two more tomorrow.

[A]

Feel like today's. We're good.

[B]

I hope so. I, I put a lot of, a lot of thought into them.

[A]

So we thank you for doing that. Con man, last year this was your Super Bowl. Now you're kind of watching everybody else hope to get to where you were. And Braves is walking through here talking shit to people.

[C]

Yeah, it was incredible. I mean, he coached up Nate Bargazzi when he was throwing. Jesse Minter looked exactly like him. That's been on my mind since he sat down. But yeah, see, Rabel, very cool. Elliott, Wolf, very cool. But it is real. Like if you are a team that stunk last year, that's in the past. No one cares anymore. Now, now you might draft two guys and you might just go on a completely different run.

[A]

Jacksonville, Chicago, New England. These places.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Get new people in there, things go well, let alone Seattle. That's just two years. That's just two years. So fan bases are expecting adhas to penthouse because they've seen it in many other places. AJ, thank you so much for traveling over to beautiful Indianapolis. Great stop at Loves for that hat. What are your thoughts for tomorrow?

[D]

I can't wait. We get some guys some position specific drills. What is it?

[B]

Tight ends, linebackers on Friday.

[H]

Yeah.

[C]

Kickers.

[H]

D line.

[D]

It's awesome. It is like, it is fun to watch these guys. I like to do. I like to see all the change of direction drills and obviously even see the defensive guys catching balls from these quarterbacks. I. I'm impressed by.

[A]

Yeah. The punters and kickers are currently working out on the field. If you remember last year, stop the show early to go host the kicking and punting thing that was happening on the field. NFL Network. Turns out it wasn't on NFL Network. There was no cameras. Started the, stopped the show early. Went down to the field. I said, is there a mic? What are you talking about? They said, so I just hung out. Didn't do that this year, but it was fun to watch. Those guys saw some clips.

[D]

I thought.

[A]

Yeah, I assumed it was on tv. They started filming because they felt bad. And then they ran a 24 second clip on good morning Football. Do you remember Pat Hunger out with the kickers? And it was like. It was my first time on Good morning Football. It was that. Yeah. So I'm not falling for that trick again. I didn't get. Yeah, I'm not doing that. NFL Network peers now all of a sudden. Yeah, yeah, yeah. After post draft, it feels like they're potentially operating as if that's happening already. Yep. There's getting a head nod. There's the orangutan right there. Holy Gregson. Boys. Good to see you guys. Good to see you boys. When you talk about silhouettes, you're talking about just a silverback moving in the wild.

[C]

Jeez, it's like a thicker Whitworth.

[A]

Yeah, look at, look at his ass. Look at his back right there. If he needs to trap, hey, don't even try to get bought or I will trap you. All right, See you guys. All right. We'll be back here tomorrow. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're so thankful to be back.

[E]

Back.

[A]

We hope you will join us tomorrow. Boys, in the truck. Great work, boys.

[C]

Boys.

[A]

How about Bruce just blocking Gumpy's face with his computer?

[B]

Yeah. That felt intentional.

[H]

Yeah, that was.

[D]

It was.

[A]

It was. Yeah, it was. It was tough. Barcode. An entire crew here. Thank you so much for what you guys did. It's gonna be a good week. Scott with the jib. Way to get real creative for that second hour, Scott.

[C]

Thanks for screwing that up, Scott.

[F]

Really.

[B]

Us on the football.

[A]

Yeah, you're man. Great jib shots, Egg. That second hour open, though, was an aggressive choice.

[C]

We. It threw us off. That's why the third hour is so much better. First hour and third hour are fine because we were like, okay, here it comes.

[A]

Camera coming around the corner.

[C]

Football.

[A]

I actually said back here. Oh. Pat told him to freestyle this hour. Oh, that's how much. That's how. That's how comfortable Scott is. That's how I do. I do. I do appreciate Scott. Scott, though. Yeah, He's a weapon. If you have a jib, it just feels like it's nicer.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Emotion. Professional sky cam. Yeah, exactly.

[J]

Yeah.

[A]

XFL Bingo. Yeah. Where we play us xfl. Yeah. Could you imagine these people thinking about putting it.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Nope. Let's move along. Be your friend. Tell a friend something nice about. Change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. We'll see you tomorrow. From the combine. You all are the best. One, two, three. Goodbye.

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[E]

Did you say someone got shot?

[B]

Brian Pata, senior defensive lineman from Miami,

[A]

gunned down the key to this case.

[H]

It's Brian.

[D]

An hour before he died, he was

[F]

on the phone arguing with somebody.

[A]

This might be a hit. You want the truth? They just want a conviction. Being placed under arrest.

[B]

We had a killer amongst us.

[D]

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