PMS 2.0 1520 - Big Sports Tuesday With Dan Orlovsky, Brewers Starter Jacob Misiorowski, Arkansas Head Coach John Calipari, Executive Director of NFLPA JC Tretter, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk

Summary

The Pat McAfee Show 2.0 #1520 — Big Sports Tuesday (March 24, 2026)

Guests: Dan Orlovsky, Jacob Misiorowski, John Calipari, JC Tretter, Darius Butler, AJ Hawk

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Overview

Pat McAfee delivers a jam-packed "Big Sports Tuesday," blending the latest headlines, interviews with high-profile guests, and characteristic humor. The episode covers major football and baseball news, the evolving landscape of sports media, NCAA March Madness, NFL Draft intrigue, and in-depth interviews with figures like Dan Orlovsky (NFL analyst), Jacob Misiorowski (Brewers’ ace), Arkansas head coach John Calipari, and new NFLPA Executive Director JC Tretter.

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1. NFL Headlines: Travis Kelce’s Return & Salary Cap Gymnastics

• Travis Kelce’s New Deal
  • Signed a three-year contract with the Chiefs, $12 million guaranteed (00:28)
  • Discussion about Kelce’s legacy and drive: "Is he hungry for one final run? Is he still addicted to the confetti?" — Pat McAfee (01:34)
  • McAfee breaks down the Chiefs’ creative contract structure, "getting a little gymnasty with it" to manage the salary cap for continuing their dynasty.

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2. Baseball Takes Center Stage: Opening Day, Netflix Debut, and World Baseball Classic

The Skepticism & Excitement of Netflix’s Baseball Coverage

• Debate on Netflix airing Giants vs. Yankees Opening Night (03:14–08:43)

  • Concerns over entertainment gimmicks vs. sports purity.
  • "I would like everybody not to just murder everything before we see it... For the good of sports, you need this to be great." — McAfee (08:37)

• Expectations for broadcast flair and evolution:

  • "Anytime you change anything around things that are beloved, they're going to be pissed off. But if it’s ass, they're going to hear it." — McAfee (07:28)

The Impact of the World Baseball Classic

• Panel credits WBC for reigniting their enthusiasm for baseball (09:10–11:22).
  • "That feeling, it's like, I don't know if I've ever experienced something like that before." — McAfee on Bryce Harper's homer (09:41)
  • Describes immersive in-stadium atmospheres and cross-cultural fan experiences (Darius Butler, 09:44)

Feature: Brewers’ Ace Jacob Misiorowski (47:56–61:40)

• Misiorowski talks rapid career ascent from JUCO to Opening Day starter.
• His game day mentality:
  • "When you cross that line, you kind of flip that switch and black out… just waiting to blackout again and keep going." — Jacob Misiorowski (49:42, 50:26)
• On developing pitches and his arsenal ("curveball, slider, added changeup") (51:07)
• Openness to celebrations:
  • "Do it. I’m gonna celebrate too, when I get out of an inning… you hit one off me, be my guest." (60:14)
• McAfee pledges $100k charity donation if Misiorowski hits 104 mph Opening Day (61:01)

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3. March Madness & NCAA Basketball

Betting Trends and Sweet 16 Storylines

• Analysis of Sweet 16 lines and notable line movement (18:50–20:03)
  • "Seven of those games have had line movement… five of those have been towards the dogs. So people are liking the dogs." — Tone Diggs (18:50)
  • Arkansas vs. Arizona highlighted as matchup with major public action, line movement (19:03)

Coach John Calipari Interview (76:03–102:37)

• Arkansas back-to-back Sweet 16s after full roster rebuild.
• Calipari lauded for player development and NBA pipeline ("80 players drafted, 50 first-rounders, 13 All-Stars, $6 billion in salaries") (87:37, 88:30)
• Coaching philosophy:
  • "All I've got to do is convince them that they deserve it… If I have to do anything other than a cheerleader, we ain’t winning." — John Calipari (80:18)
• Darius Acuff Jr. praised; recent Reebok/AI endorsement, drawing Curry comparisons (84:32)
• College sports’ challenges: transfer portal, NIL, age rules (90:28–94:19)
  • "We're letting 27 and 28-year-olds play college basketball… There should be an age limit… and you shouldn’t be able to transfer every year." — Calipari (90:28)
• Advocates for qualifying NIL criteria and collective guidelines.

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4. NFL Draft: Ty Simpson vs. Fernando Mendoza QB Debate

Dan Orlovsky Interview (22:35–43:47)

• Orlovsky stirs debate naming Alabama’s Ty Simpson QB1 over Fernando Mendoza (IU), against "consensus."
  • "I am confident that in my opinion, Ty Simpson’s tape is more impressive." — Orlovsky (27:38)
• Claims numerous NFL GMs quietly endorse his view (30:36–31:27)
• Intense, statistical back-and-forth analyzing each QB’s "big moments" and game tape (34:31–40:51)
• McAfee’s take: "Talking to Fernando and watching Fernando, it's like, this is a certified guy." (45:19)
• Memorable moment: Debate escalates, but ends with mutual respect for differing evaluations (43:03–43:21)
• Quote on sports media:
  • "If you are scared to be wrong, you will never strain to be right. And I like being right." — Orlovsky (43:05)

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5. NFL Players Association — Executive Director JC Tretter Interview (106:07–132:32)

• Tretter discusses transition from NFLPA president to Executive Director.
• Background: Cornell labor/union studies, player-first approach.
• Transparent about recent NFLPA leadership division; aims to re-center union as "player-driven" and bridge divides with both active and former players (112:16–115:06)
• "Our focus is on health and safety… making sure we keep our players safe… our job is to protect our players." — JC Tretter (122:50)
• Challenges with balancing star/specialist interests, CBA priorities, and solidarity (117:38–119:56)
• Plan to emphasize player engagement, direct polling/surveys, and improving benefits.
• McAfee proposes: “Can we ever make it simpatico, real partners with the NFL?” (128:33–128:36)
• Tretter: "That’s absolutely possible... We’re locked in as partners." (128:33)
• Tackles current issues: artificial turf ("92% of members want natural grass"), transparency in team ‘report cards,’ health, and future CBA priorities.

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6. Pro Days & NFL Draft Prospects (141:29–154:17)

• Discussion of recent and upcoming pro days at LSU, Miami, Iowa, Ohio State, Alabama, etc.
• Standouts: Harold Perkins Jr. (LSU LB, 4.38 40-yd dash), DeLane (projected CB1), Reuben Bane Jr., and Akheem Mesidor (Miami DL).
• Darius Butler: "We're in the age of the tweener. You want guys who can do all the different things." (143:32)
• Side note: Iowa’s pipeline of NFL talent.

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7. Quick Hits & Lighter Moments

• Panel fawns over Buffalo Bills' new Bison sculpture preview (162:53)
• Spirited beer debate: Bush Light vs. Lone Star vs. high life (“Bush Light out of a camo can just tastes better, right?” — Tone, 185:07)
• Shoutouts: Wisconsin women’s hockey dynasty, NCAA wrestling, and Husker athletics (178:05)
• Jokes about fast food Italian (Fazoli’s, Olive Garden) and Wisconsin head coach Gino’s dominance (174:41)
• Wrestling preview: Cody Rhodes in-studio tomorrow amid Wrestlemania build-up (186:57)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Pat on sports change (07:28):
  "Anytime you change anything around things that are beloved by a lot of people, they're going to be pissed off. But if it's ass... they're going to hear it."

• Dan Orlovsky’s bold draft philosophy (43:05):
  "If you are scared to be wrong, you will never strain to be right. And I like being right."

• JC Tretter on union’s purpose (108:05):
  "Very few times you get to work for the good guys. And I think that's one thing we get to do."

• John Calipari on player focus (80:18):
  "If I have to be anything other than a cheerleader in this game, we ain’t winning."

• Misiorowski on pitching (49:42):
  "When you cross that line, you kind of flip that switch and blackout… and you make it work."

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Key Timestamps

• Travis Kelce segment: 00:28–03:13
• Netflix MLB/World Baseball Classic: 03:14–11:46
• MLB Opening Day, Jacob Misiorowski interview: 47:56–61:40
• March Madness & Betting Trends: 18:50–20:55
• Dan Orlovsky NFL Draft debate: 22:35–43:47
• Coach John Calipari interview: 76:03–102:37
• JC Tretter/NFLPA interview: 106:07–132:32
• Pro Day Prospect Analysis: 141:29–154:17
• Buffalo Bison segment: 162:53–166:11
• Beer chat & light banter: 181:01–186:03

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Tone & Style

The episode seamlessly oscillates between playful banter, deep sports analysis, and pointed commentary—with classic Pat McAfee Show candor and unpredictability. Guests are engaged with respect, but the panel isn’t afraid to challenge conventional wisdom (as seen with Orlovsky and Tretter segments).

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

You’ll get:

• A sharp, entertaining rundown of the week’s top sports news from different angles
• Insightful, at times combative, interviews with sports insiders and decision-makers
• Lively debate on how the business and culture of sports is evolving—from front office moves to athlete empowerment
• Memorable moments and one-liners characteristic of the Pat McAfee Show’s unique voice

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Transcript

[A]

Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this big sports Tuesday, March 24, 2026. This program begins now. Sports are the absolute greatest and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day. We got basketball, we got football, we got, we got an NFLPA executive chairman director super duper.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

There's gonna be a lot of journalism done today. There's gonna be a lot of celebration today and there's going to be a lot of talking about. Wow. Travis Kelce has a brand new deal with the Kansas. Was there any doubt that he was coming back potentially because where he is at the stage of his career. Goat conversations over 100 plus million dollars earned as a football player, multiple time super bowl champion will go down as a guy who helped football as a whole and as we know, significant other most famous person on earth who's also a self made billionaire and one of the most talented people of all time. Travis's podcast great we assum movies will be phenomenal. He has incredible moxy. The guy could go on to take on and do anything in the world. The fact that he's coming back to play football again makes me excited. And the fact that last year at the end of the season, he was playing in meaningless games in front of 2,000 people. Patrick Mahomes wasn't playing. He was hurt, obviously he was out. Kansas City Chiefs were out of playoff contention and this old ass who's already certified already everything we just listed off already a first bout hall of Famer maybe.

[C]

Yeah, maybe you just don't know anymore.

[A]

Maybe we don't know with the whole hall of Fame thing how it's going to go. He was playing in meaningless games at the end of the season, giving it his all. It's like wait, is this a victory lap for this guy for the last time he puts on the pads? Or is this a reminder of what football was like at the beginning of his time at Kansas City, before they turned that place into an absolute juggernaut, before they turned that place into a dynasty? And is he hungry for one final run? Is he still addicted to the confetti? Is the girl that he's with the most powerful, most famous, maybe one of the most talented people in the history whenever they go through the entire thing of what she's been able to accomplish, is she motivating him to continue to go? He said yes, that is 100% the case. And now we have the salary cap gymnastics that the Kansas City Chiefs are going to do to keep him around and also give him another nice paycheck, which he certainly has earned and deserved. $12 million basically is guaranteed. It's a three year deal with two years of salary cap gymnastics on the back end of that. Salary cap gymnastics means we're going to give you this money now and then we're going to utilize the amount of years the contract is to spread out the cap. See, this is called getting a little gymnasty with it. And a lot of salary cap experts around the league have been able to do this and their teams have certainly prospered. The Kansas City Chiefs with Veach certainly one of them. So it's a three year deal, big money on the back end that is just to eliminate the salary cap hit for each season. And they have a button that they're going to be able to end this contract, we assume after this season. But on that note, congrats to them getting a deal done. And congrats to football getting Travis Kelce back. That's huge news out of the NFL. There's also incredible pro days which we're going to showcase here in just a matter of moments. The talks tables here at Boston. Connor at Ty Schmid, 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys AP Tone is here. Now. Ty, the baseball season starts tomorrow night, right?

[C]

That is right.

[A]

You don't bet on all those games, right. Or how. How does this thing go?

[C]

Yeah, I, I wouldn't recommend betting on all those games, but opening opening night. Yeah, you got to. You got to have several in the holster there.

[A]

So tomorrow night is Giants, Yankees. Correct. It'll be on Netflix.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Everybody's pumped about this. It seems like. Let's see how it goes first maybe.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Before we all see everything going to be ass.

[C]

Yes. I love.

[A]

Everybody's saying everything's going to be asked.

[C]

Yeah. People aren't happy about it. I love the broadcast team. We got CC in the booth. We got.

[A]

We love cc.

[C]

Exactly. Barry Bonds is going to be there. So like the actual baseball portion.

[A]

Is he going to sit down, interview at the house?

[C]

See, I don't know because he, he might be on like a one on one special guest interview with Jameis Winston, who is also going to be.

[F]

He might be in.

[A]

We love James.

[C]

Winston love James.

[A]

Everybody that has been announced as a special guest for opening night has been met with. Now why the do we need. Okay. There's been a lot of that. Yeah. I'd like to say every time James on a microphone, I like it.

[C]

I agree. I don't Think people are mad about Jameis because he also plays for the Giants. So there's kind of a New York connection. Yeah. If you want to. If you want to shuffle back to that for a second. Foxy. Yeah. I think this is one of the things that people have an issue with why I love you. So I'm not. I'm not just saying that because I know you're going to say. Anytime you say I love blankets.

[A]

Yeah. This is a setup for you to say.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

Because we actually love the USO's legit love. We do. Yeah. Yeah.

[C]

I don't want any of that tomorrow night, though. Okay. Not for a Yankees game. I don't need. I don't. In the third, I feel like I

[A]

was kind of a little bit tiny. Part of the.

[C]

I don't need.

[A]

When you spitting in the face of you. We had it.

[C]

Because you know what's gonna happen.

[A]

Jay walks out there, whole place.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

Okay.

[G]

It's gonna be.

[C]

It's gonna be the third inning. Either the Giants or the Yankees is gonna maybe have guys on, like, second or third pitches coming in. Oh, let's cut to the crowd. And Jay Uso's walking down doing this. We're gonna.

[D]

What do you mean, this?

[A]

We're gonna miss a unifying celebration of life.

[C]

You want that?

[A]

You want that?

[C]

Go see a WWE event. Not on opening night of baseball. Not only that, we got Bert Kreischer doing his gimmick the whole time. Yeah, they're going to be showing Burt in the crowd with his shirt off.

[F]

No, he's open with his shirt off, actually.

[C]

Well, there you go. I'd actually be okay.

[A]

Bert will adjust to acclimate, to make it entertaining. I believe that's what Bert will do. So I am. I would like everybody not to just murder everything before we see it now, after you get a chance to watch it. If you super baseball people are like, this is not the baseball that I

[C]

want, you know, Because I don't care about that either. I'm not. This isn't from, like, a purist thing. Maybe this is just me as like, a Yankees fan and someone who has been waiting a long time for the season to be back. Like, I want what I know. I don't want Jey uso doing.

[A]

Jay USO is the least of your work. I know. Jay and Jimmy USO are gonna crush it.

[C]

I know.

[A]

And I need to know that.

[C]

And I don't know why. I'm just kind of harping on them. But if I see Jey uso Doing a super kick to, like, Bruce Bochy on top of the dugout or something like that. I'm gonna be red hot. I'm gonna be red ass.

[A]

What? That's what we're waiting on. No, that'd be awesome.

[C]

We'll see another one. Yeah, exactly. Which, you know, finisher should be one super kick and that's the end of it. But I'm just saying I'm gonna give it its chance. I'm gonna give it its due. I'm not gonna jump to conclusions, kind of like I just did. But I'm gonna be ready.

[A]

There's a lot of people that are ready to cook it. And I would like to say to everybody over there, we appreciate the fact that Netflix is getting more into sport.

[C]

I agree.

[A]

Okay. We appreciate that. And also evolving sport and changing how sports are covered. I think that is a part of transitioning through eras. I remember back whenever hockey had the stadium series when they launched it, and I remember the sky cam being sick. I remember going down the ice with Sid as he's doing his thing. It was incredible. I'm like, hol, I never played ice hockey. I can't skate that good. Can skate if I have to. Not good enough for that entire thing. And also the amount of commitment and time and finances to hockey is crazy. That's why I'm so pumped. America is still good. But on sky Cam, I felt like I was in it. I'm like, oh, I know where the puck's going. I feel like I know it a little bit. And I immediately say, this is the greatest thing of all time. And then all of a sudden, hockey people just started coming after me for ruining the game. Basically. It's ruining the game. It's doing its entire thing. I think anytime you change anything around things that are beloved by a lot of people, they're going to be pissed off and. But if it's ass, I mean, they're

[C]

going to hear it.

[A]

You're not only changing it, which you're going to get hate for, but if it's ass and you're changing, it's like, oh, you're super genius. You thought you were better than what we've been doing for 100 years in this.

[C]

Yeah. And to your point, that is one thing I actually am excited to see is, like, what kind of flair Netflix is going to bring to it, because this is the first baseball game they've ever had, so who knows what they're going to try to improve, like, the overall viewing.

[A]

What was Apple's gimmick We just got higher quality cameras.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. And they would like, like you see it every once in a while when a guy will like hit a home run where like the cameraman will kind of. Right. And like follow him around the bases almost. But like they had like a roving camera almost that would like kind of take you into the action more, it seemed. And it was like an 8K camera. So that. That was their. Yeah. Only gimmick.

[A]

Okay. So I'm excited to see what Netflix does. Netflix. You know, I mean, it seems like Stephen A. Maybe just saw it recently. Honda doing the climb.

[C]

Yeah, that's right.

[A]

That was an interesting. That was a captivating thing. They're spending a lot of money in sport right now. Yeah. I'm hearing Nate Diaz, ufc. Yeah, I'm here. Nate Diaz is fighting on Netflix and then the numbers that are being floated for how much he's getting paid. It's. If they're going to be spending that much money in sports and on athletes, I'm cool with it. Good luck over there. But don't be asked, please, if you're going to take massive swings.

[C]

Bingo.

[A]

For the good of sports.

[C]

Exactly.

[A]

For the good of sports. You need this to be great. I have faith in Everybody in the USOs are the least of your work.

[C]

I'm actually excited. I'm sorry. I want to apologize to Jay and Jimmy because I actually. I do love the USO's.

[A]

Yeah, but they know ball though, right? Jimmy and Jay grew up in athletic family. Athletic neighborhood, athletic sport. I mean, they know ball, so I think they will understand the situation and it's not their fault if that place turns into Yank.

[C]

That would be cool. I'd be okay with that.

[A]

Okay.

[H]

All right.

[A]

I want to use the hammer, dad. Cowboys A.P. tone is here. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here.

[D]

Yes, sir.

[A]

We just went off on baseball coverage that we don't know about yet, but we are excited about the baseball season getting started. I feel like we know more about ball now than ever. We haven't had a chance to really talk about this. World Baseball Classic was incredible. I think I'm a baseball fan because of it, actually. Like, I genuinely think I was interested in baseball then. Going to the World Baseball Classic, it's like, all right, I get it now because they had no hits. We had nothing really to cheer for on the offensive side of things, which is normally what I would say is the most boring of all time. But when Bryce hit that home run, I mean, that feeling, it's like, I don't know if I've ever experienced something like that before. It was awesome down there, and I think we're into baseball.

[D]

Yeah, it was crazy. You know, MLB has been great to us. They let us in All Star Game. That was a great experience. And then been out there for kind of day one of them. Getting around each other in there, I guess, training camp and practices. That was awesome. And then to get down there for the final in Venezuela, like, the crowd was unbelievable. It was clearly a road game for usa, but just the energy in there, and it wasn't like they were. They weren't assholes at all. Like, they were definitely all for their team, their country, but they were also very welcoming and nice to us because we had some behind us and in front of us. We had a pretty American area overall, but the energy in there. The. The ponche. I mean, the poncho was unbelievable, but the vibes. The game obviously didn't go our way, but, you know, the right team won. They earned it. We had the lineup, we had the batters, we had. The name just didn't show up in the moment, but the. The actual sporting environment. Like, I never thought I would enjoy myself or feel that type of energy at a baseball game ever, but I

[A]

think it was good for baseball as a whole.

[D]

Great for baseball.

[A]

I think big takeaway is good for baseball.

[D]

Great for baseball. And I loved, you know, just how much everybody cared. Like, they. The players care. We. And we watched. I don't know if you spoke about it in detail, but after the game, you know, we received our silver medals because clearly all those guys signed up to win it. You know, these are the best players in the game. So we're walking off and we're like, all right. By the time, you know, who takes the least amount of steps before they take this medal off? And, like, that's so I. Boys will be back. They'll get it done. But I think it was great for baseball overall just how much the players care. The coaches, the former players, been in the dugout, you know, you. You meet Miggy, you're seeing pool holes. Like, all these guys still being that close to the game. Ken Griffey being like, the ambassador and obviously doing his photographer thing as well. It. It was dope. It was great for baseball. And I'm actually excited for opening day. I don't think I've ever been excited for.

[A]

Me neither. Yeah, I'm actually pretty juiced up. Logan Webb's getting a start, too, for the Giants. He was a part of our Team USA story. Because I just so happened to be on a bus whenever there was a. A full court press on a guy to join Team usa. Just met Grandpa Rossi an hour and ten minutes before that.

[D]

He showed up, too. He's one of the guys that showed up.

[F]

He did show up.

[G]

He was all.

[C]

He was all tournament team, wbc.

[A]

As you should have been.

[C]

Put that in your cap. Exactly.

[A]

It's not me, though.

[C]

No, it's not. I know, but he wouldn't. He maybe would not have been playing.

[F]

He said and cared more than anyone else.

[A]

I mean, I'm wearing Team USA hats, okay. that thing. Not knowing that guy's coming in, not knowing Grandpa Ross, even coaching team. I mean, to be honest, I didn't know. I knew next to nothing. I actually had to send a text, hey, what Grandpa guy from Cubs? Because I'm on same bus. Grandpa guy from Cubs Legend. And I take a picture of him, and I send it to group, and everybody goes, david, David, that's Grandpa Ross. He'll go buy any of those things. So I go, grandpa, what up, dude? That's how the conversation started. So the fact that it all kind of came together in that moment, outrageously wild. But, yeah, I don't think it really took much to get him. It felt like a couple. Hey, come on.

[C]

Everybody's doing it.

[A]

Hell yeah, dude. Hell yeah, dudes. Aren't we doing that right now?

[E]

And then hard.

[A]

Oh, I'll do it.

[C]

And then he goes out there and he shoves.

[A]

He does.

[C]

I'm very.

[A]

Yeah, I'm very thankful for that. I love baseball. Jacob Mizorowski will be joining us. He's opening day starter for the Brewers. He. He came into superstardom last year whenever he got put into the All Star Game. The same All Star Game in which I led the press conference.

[C]

Yep, good time.

[A]

And Ty and I introed the Home Run Derby. People. We got a chance to meet him. There was a lot of people pissed because he was only five starts in, but I think his first ever start as a young lad, he got drafted in 2022 out of, like, Crowder, which is a junior college. He was supposed to go to LSU, but he got picked 63rd, so he got a couple million dollars. So instead of going to LSU with Paul Skeens, he wanted a Brewers farm system, I guess. Then last year, he gets his first start. I think he struck out the first 10 guys he started against. He's like 6 foot 7. He throws absolute heat, I guess. Became a sensation. Made the All Star Game after only five starts. Now he's opening day starter for the Brewers. Kid out of miss. And I think he throws some real fill. I think this guy's a guy. Yes, I think this guy's a guy. And we had great conversations whenever we were pretty boozed up at the home run dirt. Yeah, I think that's really the only way to describe how we were in that T mobile super duper zone there.

[C]

Yeah, we kind of had to be too, because, you know, I mean, like, you didn't know a whole lot of these guys and it was kind of like, you know, I wasn't trying to step on toes because like we said, like you mentioned, like the All Star Game, every other All Star Game. Like, these guys can just have fun. Like these guys are all working when. When, you know, we're down there with them. But yeah, people were piss. But if you watch one, I mean, he throws so hard, his breaking stuff is unbelievable. Like, he will be one of those guys where, you know, Skeens had that kind of superstar rise. Everyone kind of saw it coming. Like, he should be a guy who should make a big jump this year. And we'll be in a lot of conversations.

[A]

Are the brewers ass?

[C]

No, no, brewers are good.

[D]

Who got in over Christopher Sanchez, right?

[C]

That is correct.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, they were not happy. Yeah, there was somebody in Philly too, that he got in over.

[D]

That was him.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

He's got a new deal to you. My guy, he's got a new six. You do, though.

[A]

Well, congratulations to him.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

You know who also just got a big deal.

[D]

Who's that?

[A]

PCA with the Chicago. Jeff Passer just broke this news. Center fielder Pete Crow. Armstrong, stud of Team usa performed for us. Didn't get a lot of opportunities late

[D]

in the championship on the back point.

[A]

And the Chicago Cubs finalizing a long term contract extension. Sources tell ESPN to crow, Armstrong coming off a 3030 season, which we know what that means.

[C]

30 homers, 30 stolen bases.

[A]

Of course. Yeah. Unbelievable. Will get a big payday. His Cubs lock up a franchise caliber talent. Hey, he's good for America too. Congrats. Pca. Pca. Pca. Okay. Baseball is happening. We're obviously excited about that. March Madness is the story of the current life that we live in the sports world. There's a little bit of movement going on across the board. We'll talk to Coach Calipari in the second hour. Obviously, Paisan legend has Arkansas back in the sweet 16 yet again. What a stud of a human he is. Every time he comes on the show, it's a Show.

[I]

Yeah. Yep.

[A]

He's unbelievable.

[E]

Beast.

[A]

There's going to be a lot of things said. There might be some reminders of some things that have been done in the past by him. Just. Just as a check. Just. I didn't know if we know this or not. And then there's also going to be some things said that are going to tell us whether or not he is having the time of his life, which is what it appears. I mean, if you go back to whenever he takes the job at Arkansas, kind of gets shoved out of Kentucky. He takes a job in Arkansas. We talked to him. He had no players on the roster. They had no, no, everybody left. Everybody transfer. We have no players on the run, Pat. That's what he says when he's on the show. We have no guys on the team. Now back to back. Sweet 16s, it feels like, has the guy in Acuff Jr. Who might be the star. He just signed with AI in Reebok. This guy, which is a perfect, I mean, point guard with AI teaming up at this stage of AI's existence. I love everything about it. It's gonna be a beautiful thing. Can't wait to hear his thoughts. But March Madness now. I have not been the best. The crown has not been mine. It could be the crown has not been mine. I've been in there though.

[C]

Sure.

[E]

Trying.

[A]

Trying to find it. I've been. I've been looking for the crown.

[D]

You can get it. You gotta. Gotta play it again. Yeah.

[A]

There's a lot of movement happening, I guess. Which way do I need to think about for these March Madness? And what do we need to understand whenever we're potentially placing some more bets? Even though I might retire.

[G]

What?

[E]

No.

[A]

Mid March Madness.

[E]

Too soon.

[C]

Retire from the crown is still from

[F]

basketball or gambling in general. Just basketball, right?

[A]

Yeah. Because I was bet on baseball. I retired from gambling on baseball. Remember when that happened?

[C]

Maybe you're listening.

[A]

5,000 bucks.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Are you listening to the right people is the question.

[A]

TGL's got a whole.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

Plus 5800. Plus 5800 tonight for TGL. Hole in one. Tigers playing championship round.

[F]

We need ratings.

[A]

How many par threes we got? All right, we're not saying that. We're not saying that. We understand that there's real competition tonight and we understand that we play in the sim on a regular basis. And it'll tease you too. The sim will actually give you a little bit more of a. Hey, actually, here's a close up view of this potentially. Bum, bum, bum, bum, bum, and then have it go away. So it's certainly a lot more heartbreak. But they're fresh off of hole in one, I believe. And now the excitement level for another is great. Plus 58 Huns. Maybe Ty does his thing for the TGL, which is hits a hole one in the font. Maybe two of them is there. Is there a two hole in one prop on that?

[B]

Should be.

[A]

Let's get back to basketball. We're betting on a Jupiter team. Even though they are the underdogs. They're probably.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

They're playing the Los Angeles team. The LA team is good. Powerhouse. Good. We were on the good match last night. Yeah, it was a great match last night. Came down to the last hole.

[F]

Six, five. Yeah.

[A]

Kisner kind of choked it away, to be honest. No, they hammered Don, though. Yeah. All he had to do was tie the hammer hole. He couldn't do it. Swing and LA wins, man. See, the problem is TGL is now at its second finals and people have no whole idea we're talking about. We just said the hammer die. I know. Okay.

[C]

That's a very crucial part of the whole thing.

[A]

It's a huge.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

If you watch tgl, that's a swing.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

A hammer is a full swing. Too old throwing a hammer. Yeah, that's a huge swing. More people need to understand it. Just know tonight, Tiger's got his son Day Red on as he tries to hunt for another championship. But as we look for some sort of Crown from DraftKings March Madness. What is the. What are the lines telling us?

[F]

The crown can be yours if you. If you know what's going on.

[A]

I don't think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[F]

So for the Sweet 16, good news. There is not a spread more than ten and a half or, sorry, more than ten points. All the spreads are single digits, which is awesome sometimes when you have these Cinderella sneak in. There could be 13, 14, 15 point spreads in this round, but we all have single digit spreads, so that's awesome. They are predicting good games. Sixteen teams, eight games. Seven of those games have had line movement of at least a point. Five of those have been towards the dogs. So people are liking the dogs. So far in this round, even though the bet. Even though the tournament so far has been to the favorites, the biggest line movement so far is the Arkansas and Arizona game. The public is on Arkansas more than 60% of the bet. So that has gone from nine and a half to seven and a half. The last time I checked it, Arizona is still the favorite but is dropping because people think Arkansas is going to cover. And then one of the games where the movement has gone from the. From a pick em to the favorite Yukon. And Michigan State was a pick emergency. It went to minus two and a half for Yukon. It's currently sitting at minus one and a half I believe for Yukon. But the money is on Yukon. So the money is on Yukon. But the line is getting worse for Yukon. We call it reverse line movement. A lot of people think sometimes that that maybe should go with Michigan State in that situation.

[A]

Okay.

[F]

All right.

[A]

See, but now that's where. Right where they want you.

[F]

Who is they?

[A]

The crown.

[F]

The crown is our friend. The crown wants us to win.

[A]

I know they say that, but it just feels like they're always the ones doing the crown.

[F]

Well, that's because people are laying 5, $10,000 on minus 5,000, you know, money lines.

[A]

Please. Okay. Have a little respect. Just want to see one go through.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

To my point, the crown had been in their side for too long. I wanted the crown and I thought it was a guarantee. And then the Italian said, no, they didn't say that. They said galazi. Yeah, yeah, they do. And they drank their Nespresso which sold for 16,000. We should have got cheap. We know that was for sale. Yes, we knew that was for sale. That got sent in.

[F]

It was in the group.

[A]

Yeah, I missed it. I didn't know that. Boys, we need to immediately hop on things like this. If I miss it, that's on me. Who knows where I could have been? Because if I would have seen that, I would. That needs to be over there. We'd like to offer Whoever this is $16,522. Immediate response. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who made quite a statement. Yes. With 29 days until the draft, which is being held in beautiful Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

[C]

Hell yeah.

[A]

The night before the draft in Pittsburgh at the Cayman Science center, we will be hosting a viewing of the football town, which is the NFL films feature film. Right. Is that a proper description? Feature film that I was very lucky to voice over. It's basically the history of Pittsburgh and football and how football helped create the City of Steel and how the people, the endzers basically are everything that is football. It is a, from my understanding, it is very well done. I cried after watching the first five minutes that I got a chance to see which is basically the open, let alone what it's going to be like in the Cayman Science center, which is like a little baby sphere that we've had there. You're kind of Immersed in it as you're in there. And it's just like the fact that I was asked a voice was crazy. There's so many people out of Pittsburgh that should have been voicing that over. And all of them, I think, are in the film, too. So that's like. That's like a really cool thing, just like being a part. So I'm. I'm very humbled, but it'll be my first time watching it. So we're going to put something together, try to raise some money, probably sell some tickets. I don't know how many they will be. We'll be inviting some friends. Hopefully they'll come. But when we're at the draft on the Thursday, the night after this one here in Pittsburgh, when will Ty Simpson's name be said? Well, one guy went on TV yesterday and said it needs to be said first overall. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, Dan Orlovsky.

[B]

What's up?

[A]

Hello, people of Pittsburgh. My name's Roger Goodell. I'm the commissioner of the NFL. And here is 250 Pittsburgh firefighters standing right behind me. Yeah, that's what I thought. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Look over there to your right. There's Bill Cowher, Debo James. Harrison's right over here. Yeah. Make some noise for Ben Rob. Once again, my name is Roger Goodell. Thank you so much for having us here in Pittsburgh. The draft starts now. With the first pick of the 2026 NFL Draft, the Las Vegas Raiders select Ty Simpson, quarterback out of Alabama. What? Whoa. And Dan. Dan's going to. Dan's going to. Dan's going to up, just like I said it would. That. Is that what's happening right now? Just so I understand. Just so I can kind of understand everything that's going on, are you trying to predict what's going to happen on draft night by what you're actually hearing around NFL buildings? Are you going off the film that you watched and how you think that Ty Simpson is going to be a better NFL quarterback and is. Are you saying he's a better NFL quarterback right now or is going to end up being a better NFL quarterback? Just so I can get a better understanding Because I am Ty Simpson fan. I'd like this to be known. Ty Simpson is a good football player. I hope Ty Simpson is a great NFL player. That's good for the league. Good for Ty. And also, Saban loves him, and we love Saban. So, like, I'm not saying that Ty is not a good quarterback, but it seems like everybody on earth except for you, is pretty much in the department of like this 6 foot 5, 240 pound guy who won a national championship for IU. He's the number one guy. Go ahead though, pal. Go ahead, pal. I'm sorry. I'll let you go now. I feel like I set the table for who you are, what you are, what you've said. Now we are 29 days away from either you being right or the rest of the world being right. That's kind of how I feel your thoughts on it all.

[B]

We're a lot longer away from figuring out right or wrong. Because when the draft happens doesn't mean one was right or one was wrong.

[A]

I'll remember that.

[B]

To the comment of it seems like everybody on earth, Earth thinks that Fernando Mendoza is the first quarterback or quarterback one. That's not true. I can factually tell you that that's

[G]

not a real thing.

[H]

No.

[F]

And everyone at ca.

[A]

I don't like that they're saying that about you. I don't like that they're saying that about you. I don't think that's fair. Genuinely. I don't think that's fair.

[B]

I would just, I would just like for everybody again, so, so I, I pay attention to. Not to pay attention. I see a lot of the things that get said don't address them all type of thing.

[G]

But

[B]

the agents work for us, not the other way around. Just so everybody knows they're, they're employed by us. Respectfully. That's how the business model is. CAA is a very big agency. They have a lot of people. That's all I'll say on that.

[A]

Okay, good. I do think it's, I think it's pretty unfair just to naturally piece you together because CA does have people that have Fernando as the number one guy as well. And it's like. Well, you don't think they're telling them so. It is fascinating that you take that. But on that note, I think it's because it does feel like you have to be getting paid by somebody to come as strong as you're coming right now With Ty Simpson. With how Fernando potentially finished the year last year and played his, his, his football kind of life at Indiana.

[B]

I would just, I would just say I'm not nearly important enough to CAA financially for them to pay me to say something about a guy who might be the 20th pick in the draft. Okay, so.

[A]

Okay, fair.

[B]

I'm just, it's not worth them. I don't make enough money for them to pay me money to say that. But people can think what they want. There is no motive.

[A]

We will. I am trying to make more money if that is.

[F]

I'm sorry.

[C]

I'm sorry.

[A]

Go ahead. That was a great take.

[B]

There is no motive behind this. There is no ulterior motive behind this. I. I would go back to a couple years ago. I was higher on Jaden Daniels than people were. I would go back to last year. I was higher on Jackson Dart than people were. I thought Jackson Dart should have been a top 10 pick. He wasn't. I still felt that way in relation to the Ty Simpson and Fernando Mendoza thing. It just comes for me, I guess it's the battle of traits versus tape. I am confident that in my opinion, Ty Simpson's trait tapes are more impressive. His tape is more impressive to me. I can understand where people sit there and say, well, traits. Because we have this history of the NFL and traits matter for quarterbacks like they do every player. It doesn't mean that that's the only thing that matters. I would argue that the traits are secondary for quarterback play unless you're going to be a top five pick. And so, yeah, I just think his tape is better.

[H]

Pat.

[B]

I. I believe that he dominated more games. I believe that he was asked to do more things that look like common NFL things. I believe that he played on a team that he had to elevate more.

[E]

And

[B]

that's just kind of how I watch the tape.

[A]

All right. I love to hear that from you. You know I do. And certainly time will tell whether or not both of these guys are good NFL quarterbacks. One of them is a good NFL quarterback. And if you were right or if you were wrong, and I'm sure that if you were right, people will certainly tell you. And I'm sure if you were wrong, they won't tell you. Dan. You know, I'm sure that's kind of how this.

[B]

If I'm wrong, I'll hear it basically on a daily basis.

[A]

Oh, you're saying the complete opposite happens? Yeah. If you're right, nobody will tell you four or five years from now. Because that's basically what you're saying is how long this is going to take. On that note, if Ty Simpson goes number two overall, I don't think we would be surprised, strictly because we've covered the NFL for a longer time and we've been lucky enough to be in locker rooms and listen to these people talk. If a team likes a quarterback and they need a quarterback, they will do whatever the hell they need to do to get that quarterback. That is literally just happens damn near yearly in the NFL draft. So if Ty Simpson ends up going number two, we basically just heard why he won number two. Because some general manager is thinking the exact same thing that Dan Orlofsky's thinking. Like, hey, this guy's traits are incredible. His film's unbelievable. He's a good leader. Saban's saying he's great. Obviously he was. He didn't play as many games. He only started like what, 15 games or something like that. I forget what it was. But he played against Alabama's defense in practice, like every single day. Like there's. I certainly from. Just from listening to you now, I didn't, I didn't have this deep of an analysis on Ty Simpson. I guess I probably should have. I feel like that's more like your job.

[H]

Like that.

[B]

This, this is my, this is part of my job. That's not your job. Like, this is my job.

[A]

So we're hearing though from you what people could potentially buy in on Tyson, it sounds like, is what we are hearing from you, Dan. Is that what you're thinking too?

[B]

I mean, I would tell you this. I, I go every year. I just watch games like I have. I did this year. I finally got done with Ty just so about a week ago. I felt strongly about feeling that he was the number one quarterback in the class. I can tell you, and I'm not going to tell you who, but I probably texted 12 to 15 general manager decision making coaches in the NFL. The very simple text of Ty Simpson is QB1 in this class or the best quarterback in this class. And two people got back to me with a disagreement.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

And the rest didn't respond.

[A]

And the rest have quarterbacks. Yeah. So was it a thumbs up from the people or was it like, what was the response? Yeah, baby.

[H]

Dan.

[A]

Oh, like, what is it a positive?

[D]

Don't tell me.

[B]

Yeah, it was some form of like. Like agree.

[A]

Some form of agree.

[I]

Yeah.

[B]

It wasn't necessarily on agree. Sometimes it wasn't thumbs up. Sometimes it was a gift of like. Yes.

[E]

Yeah, yeah. But is that C. Was it like

[A]

what's up, big dog with Tiger? Like any. Anybody saying that? Was there any of the white guy.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Was there any of that one?

[H]

What.

[A]

What gift? Oh, yeah, the. Oh, yeah.

[F]

Was it Tom Brady holding hands with Mendoza looking back at Ty Simpson?

[A]

Oh, yeah. Could have been that it.

[E]

Okay, Dan. Or like, okay, Dan.

[A]

Yeah. Differentiate voice memo, maybe.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Did they say, just so you understand this, this is okay, Dan? Did they send that like, what? We need a little bit more context. On what 11 to 12 responses were.

[B]

I feel like I gave you the guys the context and you just went, no. Most of the context was in some form of agreement. Sometimes it was words, sometimes it was an emoji, sometimes it was a gif or a meme or whatever they are.

[A]

Anybody send you just back the eyes, and then you automatically took that as a yes, even though that might have been a what the. Yeah. Emoji, you know, because, you know, like, cigarette smoke from Lamar on his tweet.

[B]

That outrageous of a thought. I really, really, really don't. I, I, I don't think I, I. Everyone is saying this. Oh, my gosh. You're gonna tell me that you think it's an outrageous thought?

[A]

Because nobody's saying. All right. Nobody's saying that. Nobody's saying that. Okay?

[B]

You got. Everyone's got to tell me, like, you don't like Ty Simpson because he's an inch shorter than you want him to be. Or, like, do you. I'll ask you this because it seems like you know him decently. Mario Cristobal, do you think decently about him as a football thought person of mind?

[A]

Yeah. He's also great mma. I mean, he's a fire. No, I like him as a football guy. Offensive lineman. Yes. I think he comes from the right football mindset.

[B]

All right? I mean, he. He was offering Ty Simpson six and a half bucks. Okay? So Carson, Mario Cristobal can't be an idiot.

[F]

Everyone else is taking.

[D]

Taken.

[B]

Yeah, well, everyone else was taken or they offered him. So they offer him six and a half bucks. Dude, come on.

[A]

So they're. They're offering him six and a half bucks at, like, at the current, like, situation or like, all football players that are currently playing football, you know, like, I think I respect.

[D]

Jeez.

[A]

Yeah, but how much are these guys making? Now that we think about, like, if they would have paid Fernando Mendoza $15 million to play this year for IU, he would have been underpaid. Yeah, I think he would have been underpaid.

[D]

Worth it. Yeah.

[A]

But on that note, there's no way they are paying him that, because that wasn't the deal that starts getting into, like, the professional conversation of it all. Like, LeBron's contracts are this, like, what is it? What is his actual value, you know, to it on the whole thing.

[B]

I don't, I don't know if Indiana would have paid mentos of $15 million.

[A]

No, I'm saying if they would have, though, Like, I'm just saying, like, let's say he got paid 15 bucks. As you say. As you said, he got paid 15 bucks. With what happened, everybody would be like, yes, definitely do that.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

So six and a half for Miami. I'm saying, like, that's also in comparison to what Miami could potentially be if it does work out with him as, like, you know, like, that there's. And there's also no market in college. It's just some numbers that are getting thrown out everywhere. That's. But I think he would have earned it. I think Ty Simpson would have been great on that team. Carson, Beck, one down there, did his thing.

[E]

Ty Simpson rapping 50 Cent in Oklahoma. That's still ingrained in my brain. We like the guy. It's just.

[A]

Yeah, we just.

[F]

We like Mendoza.

[A]

We're big for now. We boots on the ground, saw Fernando for the biggest games, and it's just like everything about them, just.

[B]

What biggest games, Pat?

[A]

Huh?

[B]

What biggest games?

[D]

The college football playoffs.

[E]

Now you're playing possum now.

[H]

You're right.

[A]

Those SEC games are bigger than the fucking playoff games.

[B]

Am I allowed to ask questions and have an opinion?

[F]

They played each other head to head.

[A]

Okay, Dan, do you just have. So the college football playoffs, a big mockery, a scam. Doesn't mean anything. These games just don't matter. Like, what do you mean? What are the biggest games? They have a full committee. They have billions of dollars in TV rights. For what? The biggest games.

[B]

Okay, and. And so. No, no, no, I'm aware of that, dude. Like, you guys. Okay, so in the biggest games. So the college football playoffs started and they played opening like you started in

[A]

the Big Ten Championship, I guess you could say. Big Ten.

[H]

Okay.

[B]

Big Ten Championship. Okay. Big Ten Championship. In that game, they're down 13 to 6 going into the fourth quarter. Indiana.

[A]

And then what?

[E]

Boom.

[G]

Them.

[B]

So are.

[A]

Do they game and then what, brother? Yes, but we're talking about all the moments. You're talking about traits. It's like, okay, how about second and 17?

[B]

Six points through the first three quarters?

[A]

People defense is a historic defense. Like, what are we even talking about?

[B]

People crucified Arch Manning for doing that on the road.

[A]

Crucified Arch Manning. Arch Manning is not a part of.

[C]

Well, if you go by that too, like, Indiana beat Alabama. What, 38? Nothing. I mean, is, you know, just picking and choosing.

[B]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this is why people say you're getting paid to do this. You know what I mean? Damage.

[B]

No, no, no, because I'm giving you factual information, not opinion. They had six points through the first three quarters in the Big Ten title game.

[A]

That's Ohio State. Look up who their defense is. Look up what that defense. Like one of the greatest defenses in the history of football. And then what did he do?

[B]

Defense.

[A]

Then what do you do, Dan?

[E]

The biggest moment.

[A]

And what'd he do, Dan?

[E]

The biggest court.

[D]

Charlie Bicker.

[B]

He threw up. I think he threw the post to start the second half, which is a great throw and a great recognition and

[A]

a huge moment after getting beat. So mental toughness is there. And then obviously being able to take a shot. He cracked his rib on the first play. I mean, there's just like, you know, because then you're going to hold injuries on the other side. It's like, well, how about first play, a Big Ten championship? Guy gets this and then takes two plays off. Wow, I just got cracked. No pause. He said on our show. And then he jogs back out there. It's like, is that not a trait? I don't know. You tell me.

[B]

Of course it's a trait. No one's questioning if he's a tough guy or a good player. What I'm saying to you is, you guys go. We watched him boots on the ground versus the biggest games. They had six points in the Big Ten title game through the first three quarters. Six, okay, yes. He makes two throws. One of them is another back shoulder throw and they win the game. I think 17, 13 or 13, 10, something like that. Then they play, I believe Alabama. Ty Simpson gets hurt. Alabama can't do anything on offense without Ty Simpson. And they put up, I think 38 or something on a defense that they played literally allout, zero coverage, almost every snap. And he lit him up. There's no question about it. But D butt knows this. They played zero on almost every snap. Then you go to the 14, 16

[A]

for 192 yards is what Fernando Mendoza was against Alabama's defense. Alabama defense, probably. Okay, okay, then they go.

[B]

Then they. Then they go to Oregon. Play Oregon, I believe in the semis. It's 35 to 7 at halftime. They had three possessions that started inside the 10 yard line. And I would argue up 35 to 7 through half. There wasn't one throw that you're like, oh my gosh, what a ridiculous throw. They go to the national title game,

[A]

OR 17 to 25 touchdowns is what Fernando Mendoza was just. Go ahead, keep going though. Just, just as we're going through this thing, thing. We're just Gonna go ahead and 17:20 for five touchdowns. Okay, so go ahead, go to the next one.

[B]

They had three possessions that started.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

10 yard line.

[A]

Okay. Best in a red zone. Yeah, Number one in the country in red zone, actually. Yep. Go ahead.

[E]

One at Oregon.

[A]

Two and number one in the country. The third down. Go ahead. Go ahead, please, though. RPO stuff. Back shoulder. Third and seven, Omar Cooper Jr. Whenever it mattered. First third down of the game. Go ahead, please. We're just saying all these things you're saying. I, I don't know. You know, it's hard. Just hard. Hard. It's hard.

[B]

You know what is hard? They had three possessions that started inside the 10 yard line.

[C]

It's not his fault.

[A]

Yeah. The defense must tighten.

[F]

No, Mendoza made Bama run zero the entire game.

[A]

Yeah. And zero. Let's go to Penn State. Let's go back to Penn State. You know that Penn State team, you're right. Completely done by then. Shouldn't have any close games at any of this stuff.

[B]

But weren't they, weren't they losing to start the fourth quarter like 24:20.

[A]

Okay, and then we'll what exactly, Dan, That's a trait too, isn't it? Don't we think that maybe is a trait?

[B]

Trait? I'm not saying it's not a trait, but everyone continues to go, Dan, you're such an idiot. He was so clutching games. The comeback against Iowa. They had 10 points through three quarters.

[C]

That's a great come back against

[F]

where he just absolutely ate it.

[A]

Yeah. What do we. I mean, unbelievable stuff. I understand what you're saying and we just want to say we got a chance to live what he did for the state of Indiana, you know, so when he goes 17 to 20 for a team, we're watching all 17 of those on a regular basis out here. You know, when he's going 14 to 16 or whatever it is, we're seeing all.

[B]

Yeah, he's a good player. I'm not saying he's not a good player. I'm not. I've never once said Oaks, Fernando Mendoza isn't good.

[H]

That's why it's.

[B]

I hate these conversations because it's like Orlovsky doesn't like Mendoza. I'm not saying that.

[A]

Back shoulder. How you doing? Keep it moving. Give me that.

[B]

So you think that's a better throw or a better catch?

[A]

I mean, definitely had playmakers out there, but yeah, every ball he threw was because the watch receivers were so good. Yeah, that, that right there. Great catch right there. That was great catch.

[B]

No, I Didn't say that.

[A]

It's kind of like a handoff 30 yards down the field. But I.

[B]

Hey, listen, I got plenty of clips of that too.

[A]

What we're just saying is we are fans of Ty Simpson. We are just. Fernando, I think we, we think he's earned the right in the biggest games playing the way that he's played just for the good of ball. He's definitely QB1. Pretty good boy. That's fourth and five to win a national championship in Miami. A mile and a half away from Miss. Oh, school. Okay, give me the ball. Give me the ball. It's the best play of the game.

[B]

It's an awesome run. I agree.

[A]

Pretty good trait there. Wants the ball. He's like bel air from St. John. Exactly.

[E]

Just like.

[A]

But instead he did have buckets before then, right? Numerous. Lot of buckets.

[B]

No, he didn't.

[A]

All right, you're the best. Let's move along here. A couple other NFL questions from the boys. We think Ty Simpson will be a good NFL player. We are pumped for Tyson. We were pumped. Fernando Mendoza has earned the right to just be approved as the number one guy. We think. You do not think that we understand.

[B]

I think he's a good player.

[A]

Got 29 days. Got 29 days to sway. Maybe send some highlights of Fernando up to Daniel. Maybe some warm up shots where he's hitting those intermediate shots. You know, turn signal might be on right now. Not 100% sure what you got going on. But we appreciate you coming in here and battling for your take because your take is one that is certainly going to make people happy, especially down there in Alabama. And if Kalyn DeBoer has number one overall pick, number one quarterback, that'd be good for him down there. We'd be happy for him down there. What's that, Ty?

[C]

I don't know if that'd be good for him.

[A]

What do you mean?

[C]

Jesus Christ. You had the number one pick in the draft and he got starched 38 to nothing in the Rose Bowl. Get this guy the fuck out of here.

[F]

To Ty's credit, they couldn't run the ball for sure all year and their own line was actually pretty bad all year.

[B]

And you know how many rushing yards they averaged from their running backs per game?

[A]

Two, you know.

[F]

Oh, you mean yards per carry or just overall?

[B]

Yeah, no, per game. Out of their running back. 78. You know how much Indiana average from their running backs per game?

[F]

Yeah, we. 200.

[H]

180, 184.

[C]

That's Big Ten football, baby.

[A]

That's Right.

[G]

Sheesh.

[A]

That's right. How many cold games Ty Simpson play? You tell me that.

[E]

How much money was spent on the Bama roster versus the Indiana roster?

[A]

Yeah, it would be a good question, actually, because everybody just says Mark Cuban. I have no idea. Hundreds of. He's not yet.

[C]

Yeah, well, yeah, exactly.

[A]

Unless that continues to keep going. Dana, we love you, man. We appreciate you. Draft season's fun. It's always fun. Any other Dan Wagons happening that we need to know about? Any other ones?

[B]

I don't think so.

[F]

Cole Payton.

[B]

Who?

[D]

Jeremiah Love. Stop calling a damn.

[B]

I love Jeremiah Love, man. I think he's an awesome player. I think we're overthinking him.

[I]

We'll see.

[D]

I agree.

[C]

He's got the pattern.

[E]

Yeah. This is how you know it's real, though.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Because he pats this much, that's when it's like, I gotta respect what he says.

[A]

Yeah. Dan, we appreciate it. We do appreciate your. Your true, genuine respect for the profession in which you have. Have. You know, because you're watching every film and you're telling your brain, man, if I say that, you know, everybody's going to. And your brain's like, you got to do it.

[I]

You're right.

[A]

You got to do it. It's on your film. So we appreciate.

[B]

Well, I firmly believe if you are scared to be wrong, you will never strain to be right. And I like being right. I'm not always right. I've been wrong before. But I don't think you could be good in this business or great in this business if you're scared to be wrong.

[A]

Well, this business will certainly decide for all of us, won't it?

[E]

You're our first pick, Dan.

[A]

Hell, yeah. You're our QB1, Dan.

[C]

That's right.

[D]

Yeah.

[G]

Okay, thanks.

[E]

Stop crying.

[A]

I don't know if you are, though. Hold on. I just. I just went through the whole thing. Like, if we're playing a game, we're having Aaron as quarterback.

[C]

Yeah.

[I]

Yeah.

[H]

It's probably fair.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, that is certainly happening. If he would play, which I guess is kind of the whole thing.

[F]

Quarterback, you mean like friends of the show?

[A]

You know what?

[H]

Wow.

[A]

When's the game? Like, tomorrow. We need to know the answer right now.

[D]

My.

[B]

That's my quarterback you're probably taking. I'd still take Aaron. I would take Aaron.

[A]

What if we didn't know, though, if he might have no quarter?

[F]

We don't know if he's going to show up. You'll show up.

[E]

Lambo at center.

[A]

I'LL be there and then I'm reliable. Lambo definitely in center. We think he would. Oh, you're right.

[E]

No. AQ's swing guard. We know he can play both.

[A]

AQ's playing tackle, though. Congrats.

[G]

Good point.

[A]

He's out there. Dana, we know you're in shape. This guy was running interval sprints of 800 meters this morning, and he was doing burpees and up downs. We appreciate your commitment. My work got hurt.

[B]

My work got hurt.

[E]

So did this interview.

[A]

Okay. All right. That's it. We thank you, Dano. We love you, man. Thank you for taking time out of your life. You're the man.

[B]

Love you guys, too.

[A]

All right, Dano, that's Dan Orlovski. Dan, he got pretty bummed out.

[C]

He did.

[B]

He did.

[C]

He got real hot there.

[A]

He used traits Vers taper early. Thought he had something. It's like, well, we can find some trade stuff, can't we?

[G]

He was.

[F]

He was, like, criticizing Mendoza for the Ohio State.

[C]

Yeah. The points in the Big Ten. That is a weird.

[F]

He must have not looked at ties last few games if he's gonna play those.

[A]

Yeah, but he was hurt is what they're gonna say. Which is what we're kind of saying about Ty, too. Like, we don't think which. We love him the best version. Yeah, exactly. We like Tyler a lot, but it's like the dude, like, crazy crack. I mean, first play thing and then he comes out and he's. That's Ohio State. It's like, I don't know.

[F]

I saw a tweet. Yeah. About this conversation. It's like, yeah, whatever. Tape may be similar, but if Miles Garrett comes off the edge and hits Mendoza, he's not going to turn into a big. A pink goo like Ty Simpson.

[A]

Well, we don't know that's true. Ty's a tough guy. We like Ty. We like Ty. So if Ty's pick number two, I would be. That'd be great for the draftsman. We'd be pumped up for it. And that means some team really loved them as much as Dan Orlovsky loves them. We hope that happens. We just think that if you meet Fernando, talk to Fernando, listen to Fernando and watch Fernando, it's like, this is a certified guy. Like, I just think he deserves the respect to being like, hey, this is a certified. Number one at this. In this class. But with that being said, is anybody certified? Any. Nobody's guaranteed anything.

[F]

Tom Brady will decide.

[D]

We got a scoreboard. So we'll see in a few years.

[A]

I Mean, who knows how long you know anybody lasts on a microphone? But we will be able to find out with this Ty Simpson run, hopefully. And we hope it's good. Once again, Dan Orlovsky's praying for it to be good.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. That is what he's certainly looking for. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man from baseball. This man, six foot seven, some. How tall was the Randy.

[C]

The big one. Big unit. Six, six eleven.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

What. How tall is Paul? Skiing.

[C]

Skiing. Six five, six, four, six, five.

[A]

So it feels like whenever they're up there on that mound.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Because the mound is elevated. You're just looking at. Watch yourself of monsters up there.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And then when that ball is coming out of the hand, especially with 6, 7, especially Hembo sent us a stat. The guy that's about to join us, his step, his. His like forward step thing.

[C]

Longstrider.

[A]

His is so far like the ball's still in his hand. Closer to home plate than like anybody since the tracking error. So that means we're still. We're almost Canadian.

[E]

Touching the hog line.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

That's kind of.

[G]

You're right.

[A]

That's kind of what he's doing. The curling.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

You know, whenever they were fingering that thing late there, which was illegal, I guess Canadians. Do we have a final judgment on that?

[H]

It was legal.

[A]

The Full rock never crossed the hog line. That's why we won the gold medal in that one.

[H]

But boys.

[A]

Oh, did you really? So the people that were being accused of cheating ended up winning the gold medal.

[H]

Won legally the gold.

[A]

Okay, so.

[H]

Because the rock did not cross the hog line.

[A]

Okay, okay, okay. So you're allowed to do that is what you're saying? Maybe the Americans need to learn to before the hog line touch. Because that's what this man does with baseball. I mean, he is that thing all the way down there off the dirt almost. Ladies and gentlemen, the ace. The opening day starter for the brewers, which is Thursday at 205 Eastern against the White Sox. Ladies and gentlemen, All Stars are. Mike Mizaroski.

[C]

Yeah, Miz.

[A]

How you doing, dude? Jake. Mike the Miz. Jesus.

[G]

You're good.

[J]

You're good.

[A]

That's on me.

[F]

You got the business?

[C]

Yeah, you got the business.

[A]

Mike the Miz. I'm sorry, I assume you know him. You should know him. You're very similar individuals, world class talents. I'm so sorry about that, Miz. Now let's move along here. We met you last year at the All Star Game and everybody was talking about how you know, you're only five starts in. Shouldn't be there. You didn't care at all. It felt like you were a baseball player. I'll do whatever. We learned your story a little bit more. You leave Crowder, which is a juco. You were going to transfer to LSU. You get drafted, pick 63, get paid a couple million. You decide to go through the baseball ranks instead. Now you're opening day starter for the Brewers. Can you just tell me about the last couple years of your life in a nutshell, and do you feel like a 90 year old because of everything you've gone through to get to this point in your short baseball career thus far?

[J]

Yeah, I mean, it's been. It's been crazy. It's been a lot of fun, you know, going through it with my family and friends back home. But no, it's. It definitely makes you feel. Take some years off your life, but no, it's been good.

[A]

You had this joyful innocence last year whenever we talked to you. McGill also told us that's kind of how you are. And you throw absolute heat. What are the. What are the final thoughts going through brain while you're pitching or right before pitch? Do you have final pitch thoughts or are you completely locked in, blacked out whenever you're up there?

[J]

Oh, it's blacked out. Yeah. We're just listening to our catcher back there, Bill, and, you know, going after it every pitch.

[A]

So you. When do you black out? Is it during the pitch? During the entire inning? When you go on the field, you don't know what happens until you come back? You still don't know what happened out there or just during pitch to pitch?

[J]

No, it's when you cross that line, you know, you kind of flip that switch and you kind of black out and do what needs to happen and you make it work.

[A]

I love everything about that. I love everything about that. So that happened to me my first couple years in the NFL when I was punting and the snapper would get pissed off because he was like, where's the snap? Where was the snap? I have no idea, dude. I know it was in there somewhere. He's like, yeah, but where was it? I'm like, can we watch the replay? They're not gonna show the replay of the punt, so I wasn't able to assist him. For you, do you get coached up much whenever you're in the dugout, in between innings? Are you talking about what just happened, or are you just trying to pass time until the next time you go blackout on the mound and Throw absolute heat. I guess 100, 200, 300, whatever the case is, for every single pitch.

[J]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, our guys in the dugout are awesome. Hook and Jim, they're, you know, they're always helping with little things. You know, maybe I'm not putting enough pressure on the backside, you know, little things like that. But no, it's definitely waiting to blackout again and keep going.

[C]

Hell, yeah.

[A]

I love that.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Just waiting for the next blackout.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Just wait. I mean, are we all. That is a wildlife. But for sports, I believe that's called being in the zone. I believe that is what that is called. How many pitches do you have going in? Does everybody know how many pitches you have going in? And did you pick up any pitches this offseason?

[J]

I mean, like, are you saying, like, Arsenal wise, or are you saying, like, in the outing?

[A]

Arsenal. Arsenal.

[J]

Yeah. I got a fastball, curveball, slider. Change up is new. Just started working on that again this off season, so that's probably the one I'm bringing in. But, you know, I got the four fix, four pitch mix.

[A]

Pitching ninja, I believe, gave you slider of the year is what we learned during our. Congratulations. Congratulations on that. We said change up his new. Tell me about that. Because that's what different. That's like, different technique of holding the ball because I don't know baseball well enough. Your big thing is your V coming out because you're doing the hosel nozzle on the curling thing with how long? The hog line. Yeah, the hog line thing. So whenever. You know what I'm talking about. So is what that you just change the way you have to hold it because it has to look the exact same as a fastball. Like, how do you. Do you improve on it? You've always had. It was just kind of ass. Like, how do you kind of just pick up new pitches? What is.

[J]

Yeah, I mean. I mean, it's kind of one of those things that you got to keep working on it. And, you know, it's like the change. It's like all the pitches are like the same. You know, you're just changing how you're holding the ball in your hand. It's not really how you're releasing it. This. It's the same release point and same distance out. But no, it's how you're like, grips on the ball. So different things like that.

[A]

Okay, so there was a punt that the Australians did where they hold the ball sideways. It's called the banana punt. And they were able to punt it up in the air and when it came down, it would turn like this. Almost a guaranteed fumble for a returner if you're able to do it. But if you miss, hit it by just a little bit. I mean, it's a. It's a four yard punt potentially. So I didn't have enough courage to ever do it in a game. These guys are now doing it in games. It's unbelievable that they're doing. They're dancing with certain average destroyer. And also in there. Is there any pitches that you try in the offseason that you're like, not ready for the big game, not ready for the show yet? Is there shit that you think you will continue to add as your career continues to go that you're kind of still like tinkering with whenever you have time?

[J]

Yeah, of course. I mean, there's always something you want to improve on. You know, like the change up was that for years that was the pitch that I couldn't throw. And, you know, all of a sudden it takes one bullpen. You figure it out and you're like, holy cow, this is back. Like, let's roll with it and keep going.

[A]

How about just one knuckle ball out there? Could you imagine?

[C]

Let me see.

[D]

Sick.

[A]

You holding on to that thing and then actually letting that thing. That'd be incredible.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. Just something to think about. I don't know what that would do to your arm. Probably ruin it. Ty has a question for you. Miz.

[C]

Yeah, Miz. What is your ramp up process, like getting ready for opening day? Because I saw, I think it was like an interview maybe, and someone was like, you know, asking you about your velocity being down a little bit. And if you were worried about. And you basically said like opening day pack stands, like, I'm going to be ready to go, it's going to be there. But when you are like, you throw so hard, how difficult is that? Getting ready, knowing that you're going to be throwing 100 plus, 101 plus for a lot of your outings and like, where are you at right now? Where do you expect to be at on Thursday when you take the bump?

[J]

Yeah, I mean, coming Thursday, it's going to be full go. I mean, I'm going to be, you know, back to where I was in the postseason and chucking the rock. Like, you know, I want to, but, you know, the ramp up process is. It's long, you know, the off season's grueling and there's a lot to it. You know, you can't go out and start throwing 105 from the get go. So, you know, there's a lot of bullpens that you're throwing mid-80s, mid-90s. So.

[A]

I couldn't throw a strike. Miss. Okay. I tried against Clayton Kershaw. I just couldn't do it. I threw one, I think. I think I threw one. Dating one legit strike out of maybe seven, eight pitches.

[F]

Your miss was armside high.

[A]

Way high over this. Way, way high. You do you. So when I punted, my miss was inside. Do you have a miss that you know about? Yeah, you have a miss.

[J]

Arms side high. Arms side high. Yeah.

[A]

What is that? Is that because a grip? What. What have you learned is the reason why that?

[J]

Is that there's a lot to go into that. Like, it could be the landing spot. You're landing a little closed. You could be. You're not putting a. You're not getting out far enough. You know, could be the grip could be holding it a little bit different.

[C]

Different.

[J]

You know, there's a lot to it.

[A]

Yeah, I was trying to figure it all out, too. Yeah. I'm happy I wasn't the only one. You know, that's all. It's all us big ball players. Tone has a question for you, Miz.

[F]

Yeah, Miz. Obviously, a big thing coming this season is the automatic balls and strikes. Being able to review those. Are you going like, do you guys, as the brewers have a role, or do you have a role as a pitcher? Are you going to be the one that reviews it? Are you gonna let William Contreras, the catcher, do the reviewing? How's that going to work for you?

[C]

You guys?

[J]

I believe for us, it is off of Bill and William Contreras, but for me, there's not a chance in the world I could ever see the zone and take a guess. I mean, I'm falling off the mound. I'm throwing a, you know, full go, so my head's moving all over. So, no, I'm.

[A]

Hold on. So you. Okay, this is interesting. So you don't know if the shit's a strike either. Those ones that are, like, kind of close.

[J]

No, not even close. You know, Bill catches it well and he frames it, and I'm like, oh, that's there. And then, you know, to find out I'm two inches off, and it's like, oh, I really thought that was in zone.

[H]

Yeah.

[A]

That little box thing has certainly been a nice toy. I think umps hate it, certainly.

[E]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Especially, you know, when the entire world is watching. We got. I got a Chance to watch Contreras. I don't know which one. Two Contreras is on the back. I think they were both talking shit to me in the way that the Venezuelans talk shit, though. So cool. I would just like to let it be known. I really enjoyed the Venezuelan culture.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I assume there are many other cultures that are similar. I enjoyed the way they were competitive with me. He was nuking, basically. I mean, it was. They were hitting the back wall. Like somebody was literally just like that Forrest Gump scene where he's playing ping pong and the wall was up like this. That's what these Contreras were doing during bp off the back of that thing, killing. Does everybody smoke baseballs in that stadium? Because I was watching this thing in the Contreras versus I'm being benched tonight. They said, too. And I'm like, thank God. Get that guy the hell out of there. But with that being said, we became massive fans of baseball through wbc. Con man has a question for you.

[E]

Yeah, Miz, I think we all wish you were on Team USA for that little run, but what did you think while you were watching? It felt as though, you know, it was fantastic for baseball as a whole. But what were your kind of thoughts as, you know, Major League, All Star? Watching from home?

[J]

Yeah, I mean, I thought it was electric. I think, you know, if that opportunity would have came my way, I definitely would have not hesitated to join the team. But, you know, the guys fell a little bit short. And, you know, it is what it is. It's baseball.

[A]

Maze. I don't like hearing what you just said there.

[C]

You should have been out there.

[A]

Son of a. I didn't know you could have been out there. I don't know. I didn't know you could have been out there. I assumed that there were some of you young. We got a couple hundred billion dollars we got to make at some point.

[C]

New ace of the staff.

[A]

Camping. Yeah. First day. Got to be with the boys.

[E]

Come on.

[A]

I thought there was some sort of something. Well, next WBC. Miz, we need you. Dropping 110 out there.

[C]

Okay?

[A]

We need you. We need you to. Because we are going to be very loud. And I'll tell you, we haven't won it in a long time. No, it turns out. And I believe the Venezuelans are the right group to have it. I would like to say the right country to have it. They have seemingly really loved it and baseball was fantastic for them. But USA needs to win that. And to do that feels like we should probably get the guy. What are you going to top out at, you think in life has that been projected?

[J]

Oh, I mean, what. The top pitch that they say, scientists say they a baseball can go is like 106 or something like that. I don't think. I think I'm good where I'm at 104 points.

[A]

Two or three. Okay, so what Matt Miller. Mason Miller. Yeah, from Pittsburgh. He goes, what, 101, 100.

[E]

Seth Hernandez just went 102.

[C]

He said 104. There's a kid for the Angels, Matt Joyce, who I think has hit 105 a couple times.

[A]

Most of you guys go into Hondo now, huh? A bunch of hundo boys, the younger guys.

[H]

Guys.

[J]

Yeah, it's. It's actually crazy the amount of college guys that are throwing 100 right now. It's. It's insane. I mean, I remember when I was in junior college and, you know, the me hitting high nines was crazy. And now there's kids out there that are. There's like four team that are throwing 100. So it's. It's wild.

[A]

Yeah, it is crazy. Love it. It is a crazy thing that's happening. It's good for baseball. I assume it's because techniques are getting tightened up and obviously workouts and everything like that, let alone six foot seven monsters stepping up onto the mound and throwing it all at God. You obviously already ace opening day ace and all star in your short career. We sure there are some moments that you'd like back. Go ahead, D. Bud.

[D]

Yeah, you hit the ground running. A lot of times we talk about like, what was our welcome to the league moment? Did you have one of those kind of welcome to the show moments where like, oh, I kind of caught you off guard. And if you did, what was that?

[J]

Yeah, we were. It's New York. We were playing the Mets and, you know, the game sped up on me. Kind of, you know, started feeling a little bit. And then all of a sudden, Soto comes up and rocks a homer and, you know, the rest is history. But it. It definitely sped up from there.

[A]

Yeah, I can imagine.

[F]

He does that to people.

[A]

I mean, that is a heartbreaking feeling that. I mean, yeah, that Bryce Harper dinger. Just the way the place exploded. I love the bat. How are you about with the bat tosses?

[J]

Do it. I'm gonna celebrate too, when I get out of an inning, so go for it. You hit one off me, Be my guest.

[A]

Pimp that thing.

[E]

Heck yeah.

[A]

I like that. Because back in the day, what somebody like you would say is that Night.

[H]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm gonna hit this guy in the head and try to kill him.

[A]

Okay. So we appreciate that. Thank you so much for joining us, man. Good luck on th or Thursday and then also throughout the rest of the year. Hopefully you'll come back soon.

[J]

Yes, of course. Anytime.

[A]

104.6, you say?

[J]

Said two or three. I can't remember. Yeah.

[A]

Okay. When would you start hitting 104 again? Like mid season now? Like, when would you start hitting that again, actually?

[J]

I mean, I'm hoping it's there opening day, but, you know, probably middle season, end of season, but we'll see you go 104.

[A]

I don't want to. I'm not doing that. No way. No.

[C]

He's got it in the bag. You can do it.

[A]

Okay. I'm not going to be a part of this, actually. I'm not going to do that. We'll donate $100,000 if you had 104 miles an hour on Thursday.

[C]

All right.

[A]

The legend Jacob Misarowski almost called him Mike the Miz. Again, I apologize.

[E]

I mean, we saw the graphic pop up. It says the biz.

[A]

I'm so sorry. I. I don't know what I'm supposed to do there, but Jacob Misarowski, ace for the Brewers. Brewers are a good team.

[C]

Yes. Yeah, they are.

[A]

They have that coach, too, right? Really good coach.

[C]

Pat Murphy. Y friend of the program.

[A]

Yes. Okay. Yeah.

[C]

Bryce Tang, too, who is one of our best players in the World Baseball classic, is their second baseman, Cont Harris, their catcher. We know Trevor McGill, like, we know a lot of guys.

[A]

Okay, brewers, let's go. Like the Royals.

[C]

They are in the Pirates division, though. That's the thing.

[F]

They're projected them and the Cubs are projected to win it with Bacas, you know, right behind them. Well, seriously.

[A]

All right, let's go, boys.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Are we back on the other side? We have Coach Calipari joining us and obviously AJ Hawk. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. You might change your life. Goodbye.

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[A]

Sports are the greatest. We're so lucky we get a chance to chat about it every single day. We thank you for allowing us to do that. We have no idea why you watch, but we're certainly grateful you do. The toxic table is here at Boston Conner and at Tysheva. Baseball is saying, I like the Miz.

[C]

Yeah, he's. And he's also one of those guys very similar to skiings, where it's like anytime he's pitching, it is appointment viewing because he throws so goddamn hard. And that slider we were talking about, the pitching ninja. I mean, that he's throwing that 94 miles an hour, boy, it drops off the table.

[A]

$100,000 donation will make to a charity of his choosing. If he hits 104 miles an hour on Thursday. If he doesn't, we will still be a fan and we will talk to him.

[E]

If he throws his arm out, it's not our fault.

[A]

No. Yeah, definitely not our fault. We would like to be on the record that we. It is not our fault if. If he tries to throw early in the season.

[C]

I don't think you have to worry about that.

[A]

He's a professional. This is on him. Yeah, on that note, it's on us to give $100,000 to a charity of his choosing. If he hits 104 miles an hour, what an electrifying start that would be. 205 in the afternoon, guys. Throwing 104 on opening day.

[C]

Yes.

[F]

Game of the day.

[A]

That's baseball, baby. That's right. Hey, we're doing the baseball, baby. How about him saying he has no idea what strike zone is yeah, listen, when I'm throwing, I'm all over. Yeah, it's a strike. I don't know. Bill's back here. Nailed that. To hell with this umpire. And then all of a sudden he watches it back. Jeez, that was nowhere near. So when that thing's coming out, it could be here, could be here. I mean, that's probably literally within centimeters the entire time. Paul Skinzo, we were lucky to watch whenever he played here for the Indianapolis.

[C]

And you say they're the Indians.

[F]

That's what they are.

[C]

That's their choice.

[A]

They're a Danton. The Indianapolis Indians. He was filling this place up. Obviously, we got a chance to watch him whenever he was at lsu. That kind of captivated the entire college World Series. This big monster, former Air Force guy throwing gas. The Pittsburgh Pirates are about to draft him. He comes here to the Indianapolis Indian. Richard, the AAA affiliate for the Pittsburgh Pirates fills it up. We get a chance to meet him. This dude's awesome. And he's seemingly locked in for baseball Miz the same exact way they have young stars that are embracing their sport. Hopefully baseball is able to continue to run. Okay, 162 games. Long time. I don't know how. I don't know if my gas is going to remain full for baseball for 162 games.

[C]

That's what I was going to say. The caveat, because you guys are talking about how awesome the World Baseball Classic is. And it was. But like, I wouldn't be expecting that type of atmosphere, that type of pageantry.

[A]

Well, Jameis Winston is going to be there. We know he will hike it. We are happy that Jameis is there a college baseball player too. Yeah, one half of the Hammer done Cowboys. AP Tone is here. Tone, March Madness lines obviously are what they are. Baseball. What should we be betting on? Quick? I believe the answer is first five is what I've learned from Hammer.

[F]

Donna Guppy and I like to do first five because you know who the starting pitcher is going to be and you're basically betting on the starting pitcher. You never know what the bullpen availability is going to be to an example exact science.

[C]

So it's just.

[F]

It's easier as a gambler to handicap the starting pitching versus the starting lineup. And that's normally how we go. And on tomorrow night, it's Max Freed versus Logie Webb. Very, very good pitching matchup. The over under is only seven in that one, which is not surprising. The bats pitching normally has the advantage early in the season, especially if it is chilly outside.

[A]

Yeah, not Only if it's chilly outside, but if you're hitting a hundo. So I, I had a chance obviously to speak to some baseball people throughout the world baseball class and I guess the thing about hitters is those, those fast balls are tough to see early. Yeah. Like the season goes how it goes for how long it goes for these hitters because I guess sometimes 99, 100 is a little bit different than what you were doing in the off season. So early if somebody, if he's throwing 104. Okay. From my understanding from the World Baseball Classic, the way people are talking, nobody's going to have a clue unless they just get lucky in swing and hit that. That thing. I think hitting early is tough, especially against the gas and it feels like more boys have the gas right now than anybody else. Yeah.

[F]

And we saw, we saw it during the WBC in the final and in the semifinals I think USA on their own or whatever against Dominican I think struck out 50 times, 15 times. Sorry. And then obviously in the final against Venezuela they did as well. But then it's not like Venice. Yes, there were some bombs but there was a lot of strike strikeouts too. I think you can expect a lot of strikeouts early in the season and then home runs.

[E]

Probably, probably smart to bet on the WBC guys because they have seen, you know.

[A]

Yeah, they might be a head start.

[E]

Exactly. Because they've been seeing those types of pitch.

[A]

Oh, they might be ahead of schedule.

[E]

Yeah. Judge them all perhaps. Yeah, judge all Against Logan Webb who was just his teammate.

[A]

Roman Anthony hitting or no, he will

[E]

be Thursday against the Red Legs and yeah, he's gonna hit a dinger.

[A]

Well because I don't like the way WBC ended for him. That's a story arc that's coming. Him being the last one, you know, know, youngest guy on the team and then into the next wbc. He's going to be more of a leader probably on that team, let alone the next one after that. You know, like the Roman Anthony story. Yeah. Is going to be a beautiful.

[E]

The arc.

[A]

Yeah. It's going to be incredible. And I'm certainly betting on Tony, Tony's boy ahead. You're a nine year NFL vet. Darius Jay Butler is your Dutch D. Bu March Madness is cooking. Obviously the NBA is making its way towards the playoffs. There's a lot of chatter and conjecture about everything that's happening there. Did you see what happened with the salary cap?

[D]

D. But I did see what happened happened with the salary cap kind of.

[A]

Yeah. It's an interesting, it's mixed Reporting it feels like.

[D]

Yeah, but the. From what I saw, the final number, they'll be jumping up about 10%, which is like the max that the NBA salary cap can jump up. And I think there were a million off of projections, which, whatever. What does that mean? So it sounds like the business is doing well. Me watching it now, obviously more since football is over. I think it's going to be a great playoffs, which is when I really tune in. But they got stars. The NBA got stars. We always talk about league leagues and the star power and they definitely have the star power, especially with the old guard kind of moving on. The Steph's, the KD's, the LeBron's kind of been in different areas of their career. Now you have Wimbys, Cade, Ant Man, Joker still in his prime. So Luca, obviously unbelievable. So yes, a lot of big stars still on a big stage. So I can't wait for these playoffs to start.

[A]

The million under projected salary cap was interesting way to see like the news about it because I was like, man, not good to be going under salary cap. That's not good to be doing that. Then you see it jumped up like 11 million from this past year. It's like that seems like a pretty healthy jump. I don't know. The NFL had a $20 million jump and everybody's acting like it's the biggest in the history. So they go up 11 or 10 million. I forget what the exact number was. Good for the NBA continuing to cash in. That Adam Silver NBA licensing deal that he got done with NBC and Amazon and obviously ESPN still has some. That number was gigantic. Yeah. So I assume that that's only going to continue to go up for the players in a salary cap. They do have to figure out just everybody just buries the NBA all the time. It feels like the NBA just gets buried all the time.

[F]

An issue like last night there was because we did it on Hammer Donna. There's either nine or ten games last night, seven of them, the spread was 12 points or more. So like there's just so many teams that are so bad. It's. There's a lot of uncompetitive games every single night.

[A]

But there's so many games. There's probably a good one in there somewhere, but that's not really the one.

[D]

Great year to be bad too. It's a great year to be shitty.

[A]

Why is that?

[D]

With the prospects coming up in the draft, this, this freshman class class coach was on here a few weeks ago saying it was best freshman class that he's seen in a while. Best draft class overall. People are saying since like 03, we'll see how they pan out in the next level. But this is a good year to be shitty.

[A]

Yeah. I. The NBA fast. Every time I turn on a game. I'm sorry. So it's almost like I'm watching a spectacle. Cause you got guys that are 6 foot 8 doing WEMBY, what, 7 foot 12, whatever. He is doing the entire thing. And then whenever there's maximum effort happening, you can find some magic in there. You know, now the team's tanking. That being a narrative not good for the league. You know, if teams in your league are actively trying to lose. That was almost happening with the Miami Dolphins that came out and that was the narrative that they were trying to play. No, our teams are never trying to lose in the NBA. It has worked for teams. So it's like an interesting strategy that is probably tough night to night.

[E]

Well, usually with the NBA, this is the story, like there's eight teams maybe that can go on and win the title at the, you know, beginning of most years. There's great stories like the Pistons that come on and become the one seed. And that's awesome too. But it's all about the playoffs. You mentioned the MLB not being able to have that juice. Don't worry. Because May and June, that's when NHL and NBA playoffs happen. Like, those are those months. Like, that's when those seasons go. And even for the playoffs, like the first round of the NBA playoffs sometimes is so lopsided because. Because the top tier talent is so much better.

[A]

Now you just mentioned the NHL. I don't know if you've heard. I don't heard.

[E]

Oh, I've heard.

[A]

Pittsburgh Penguins are weighing the Lord Stanley Cup.

[E]

They're rolling right now.

[A]

Have you heard about that? Okay, good. I. I didn't know. I was just saying that.

[E]

I mean, CR Crosby's back. I saw Gino Malkin score a goal like he was 24 years old.

[A]

That's what I'm talking about.

[F]

The standings. The east playoff race is the most absurd thing that I. There's. There's eight teams I think within one point in the East.

[A]

East.

[F]

It's so.

[A]

And.

[E]

And now's the really cool part. We're like college kids.

[A]

Are you saying NBA or anything? Okay, all right. Okay. All right.

[H]

NBA.

[F]

There's no close race.

[A]

I didn't know where you were. Yeah, okay. The NBA. There's no close race. No, no NHL. East in hockey. Everything. Okay, good. Yeah. And that's what we're talking about, the Pens are about to win it all. Joining us now is a man who won a college football national champion super bowl championship and a Ryder cup challenge against a European celebrity. Ladies and gentlemen, A.J.

[E]

hawk.

[A]

Yeah, Hawker. I don't know if you knew that about Puck, but Sidney Crosby and the boys playing like it's 05 again.

[I]

You know, I heard, I see him pop up. Hey, good for the Pens. Good for sitting. It's good for the NHL if he is playing well. But honestly, you know, earlier in the show, you said, you're all in on baseball. You can't wait for the season to start. And then three minutes ago, as I'm connected, I hear you say, I don't know if I got the gas. We haven't had opening day yet, man.

[A]

I know, I know. I was just.

[I]

I believed you. I believed you earlier in the show and I saw you say, you know, I think I'm in.

[D]

This is it.

[A]

Well, it's. I just gave me the. The brutal reality is I don't think the brewers are playing Venezuela on Friday.

[C]

Yeah, correct.

[A]

Or Thursday playing the White Sox. They're playing the Chicago White Sox and they stink. So I'm a little bit worried that I'm not going to get the Ponche experience, which is what I fell in love with. I fell in love with what baseball was. I. I fell in love with how I felt when Bryce Harper, that boy who was ice cold through all of wbc, found his moment in a sub done for the United States of America, tuned up the band.

[C]

Yep, that's right.

[A]

Boom. And then he. The backflip was just so awesome. Every other country had been able to do that because they had that moment. We hadn't had that moment yet. I just felt, oh, holy ponche, no more. You know, I'm doing the whole thing. We're high five, standing on seats. Oh, yeah, I'm standing on seats. That moment was like, I've never felt that as a fan. I don't think I remember ever feeling that. I'm like, baseball's awesome. And then Ty was like, you're not going to be seeing the same environments as that. It's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to see empty stadium. I'm going to see shadows coming because the sun's going down at a weird time. This isn't a prime time game. It's not a matinee game. It's like a mid afternoon game asking nobody to come to the game because everybody's got to work. So then I'M going to watch it and I'm not. I'm going to fall out of love with it and then I'm going to watch these pictures and I'm not going to see a single triple digit. I'm going to say, what am I watching here? Then I'm going to see the strike zone not move. I'm. I'm worried that is going to happen. But on that note, we'll worry about that another day. We got the Miz at 205 on Thursday and we got Logan Webb tomorrow night on Netflix. That's right. And Aaron Judge is playing.

[G]

That's right.

[F]

And Paul Skeen starts off Thursday.

[A]

And the USO's. Thank you. Nobody's talking about that.

[F]

No one should be talking about Blazer.

[C]

I didn't say that. That was Tony. So what's your problem?

[A]

Day one. Ish. Dude. Okay, it's just them.

[F]

Ooh, we get it. Day one Raw's on Netflix. A baseball games on Netflix. They don't have to be together. Bert does comedy on Netflix. He doesn't have to be at the baseball.

[A]

Bert will make it a lively affair, though.

[E]

Bert loves ball, okay?

[A]

Yes, he does.

[E]

So why not have him there to

[A]

spread the love of the game?

[F]

I will say this from doing highlights, Netflix does have the best cameras.

[A]

Okay, See, See, that's where maybe we just wait and maybe they. We let them see what they're gonna.

[F]

The Christmas Day games always have the best.

[A]

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is

[C]

a man pogues to show up.

[A]

We need Alec Hannel climbing.

[C]

Yeah, There he goes.

[A]

The foul pole.

[F]

The foul pole.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Just hanging the whole time.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

No hands. Actually.

[C]

There you go.

[D]

Seth freaking. Because they got locked up.

[C]

They got the bay back there. So he could. There's an idea. Maybe Seth Freaking jumps off. Off Cove or squid game.

[A]

Is this tomorrow night?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, everybody write these down. Let's send them in.

[C]

Okay?

[A]

Got ideas?

[G]

Go.

[E]

Listen.

[A]

Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man, Paisan Yinzer P on Great.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

He's been listening the last five minutes. I'm excited to hear his thoughts on all the things that we've been talking about as we're potentially distracting his mind from focusing in on something that he's done his entire career. Ladies and gentlemen, coaching the Arkansas men's basketball team who just a couple years ago had nobody on the roster. Now, back to back sweet 16s and a chance to upset a team that everybody thinks can go on a run. Ladies and gentlemen, head coach of the Wu pig silly basketball boys, John Calvary. Damn, Coach. All right, Coach.

[H]

Good, Pat, how are you?

[A]

We had to talk about baseball there for a second. Sorry, we got into a little bit off topic.

[H]

We knew you talk about the Pens, though. You got to talk about the Pens. Come on now, huh?

[A]

Sidney Crosby's back.

[H]

Come on, my Pittsburgh brother.

[A]

Yeah, come on. The Pens might win it this year, Coach. You can start talking that shit. I know you're focused on basketball right now, but know that the Pens can win it. So whenever you get into conversations about hockey, you can immediately go, we're back. You suck everything like that. So just know that you're comfortable doing that. Let's talk about your team, though. I mentioned it there. We had a chance to talk to you, obviously, when you took the job at Arkansas, and everybody was kind of surprised that you went to Arkansas for basketball, obviously the sec, good for hoops, but nobody expected to see legend. You. You there. You joined us. You got nobody on the roster, you said. We have actually no players from that point until now. You said you wanted to help 30 families, I think is what you're thinking. How do you feel about the program that you've obviously got up and running in a big way? And how do you feel about being Arkansas basketball hero kind of at this stage so quickly in it all?

[H]

Well, it's. I'm not a basketball hero there, but, you know, Musk did a pretty good job now before he left, and, yeah, had Coach Richardson, Coach Sutton. This place has had hall of Famers coach there, and so you kind of stand on their shoulders. But we reworked the team, and now I've got some guys, you know, for me, the best compliment that I get and what I'm looking to do is when they say, I knew Darius Acuff was good, but I didn't realize he was this good.

[A]

Good.

[H]

I didn't realize Malik Thomas, I knew he was good. Not this good. I knew TB could play, but not like this Billy goat.

[A]

Wow.

[H]

I knew he was good. Dj. He impacts your winning as much as anybody, Coach. I love hearing it. Those are the things. Here we go with leak. Okay, Leak.

[A]

Now, are you calling highlights? Yeah, I like this, Coach. I like. You're calling highlights.

[F]

I don't know.

[H]

I'm not. I'm not even looking. I don't know what day it is, but let me just say this. I've had a ball. We've had a h. Heck of a year. But look, the greatest thing, doesn't matter what I've done in the past, what the team has done this season, you're not going to have the next game to make adjustments so we can win the next one. It's this game, and they are real. Arizona is really good. They deserve their ranking. They got all those rules, wins. They're huge. They bully ball. They. They score it. They. We kind of file the same. They shoot 1.5 more free or shots than we do from the line. So we're kind of the same there. Fouls, that should be kind of even. But they go and rebound and they're physical. But, you know, the things that we do, we shoot the three better. The assist, the turnovers. We get more assists, less turnovers, covers those things. This will be someone's will against someone else's will. Arizona is good and they're strong. Hard, hard game to play.

[A]

Okay, so let's talk about. You talking about what, you think your team is better than the other? Is that what you're reminding your team? Is that why you think you're a good tournament coach? Because we have Coach K on now throughout March Madness here. And it always goes back to seemingly the way he talks about the coaches, the coaches, the coaches, coaches. And it feels like during March Madness, we do see the better coaches kind of rise to the top every single year. Your record in the Sweet sixteen, outrageous. Pitino's record in the Sweet sixteen, outrageous. All the coaches that are like the legendary coaches, this is why they are so legendary, is these moments right here. What is it you think about the way you coach your teams that have them prep for the biggest stages in college hoops?

[H]

I've got really good players, and all I've got to do do is convince them that they deserve it. I had individual meetings yesterday to hug them and say, I just want you to know how proud I am and how much I appreciate. This is going to go so fast, all these. The rest of these games that I may not get a chance to give you a hug and tell you I appreciate you and just in this stage, be who you are. Go for it. And so, you know, I mean, we're all trying to build up our team teams. If. If I have to be anything other than a cheerleader in this game, we ain't winning. I got to be a cheerleader. I gotta just tell them you're fine, keep playing and then just keep going. You're good. And. But you gotta have plan A and B. You know, football is no different. All right, we planned on this, but that ain't working. We gotta change something here to do it. They're really big, high, low, Basketball creating highways. Offensive rebound where they shove you under the basket and, and, but let's, they're their way. We, we play how we play. Let's be our best and hope it's good enough. We don't, we don't need to try to be somebody else.

[A]

Last question for me before all the boys have questions for you. You're a legend for joining us especially. We know how busy you are at this exact time and how big it all for you. Tell me about Acuff. This guy's awesome. He just signed with Reebok, just signed with AI. We're pumped to see that. We love the fact that AI is going to be mentoring him probably for the rest of this, let alone you in his life forever. I've obviously known about him long time. I remember coming out of high school, this guy had one of the greatest crossover mid range jumpers of all time. And then at the beginning of the season I remember seeing him play a lot of basketball and it wasn't until just very recently maybe I had my eyes on him the movie most and it's like, wow, this guy. I had no idea this guy existed. Why did I not know that this guy was playing college hoops? He's special, he's fun. He looks like a throwback, it feels like. Coach, can you tell us a little bit more about a cuff and how big of a dipshit I am for not knowing that this guy's been playing hoops all college basketball season?

[H]

Yeah, pretty big. But here's what I would say, here's what I would tell you. He is a gym rat, that he loves the game. Nothing else matters to him. When he got hurt, you guys will love this, he got hurt and he had to play 50 minutes against Alabama in a two overtime game and he had like 50 points. We got back and I said, I'm not going to play you next game. You need to rest that ankle. He looked at me and said we just lost, I'm playing. And he walked out of my office. So at the end of the year I did the NBA load management before we played Missouri. He could have played. But I said take it off, it's not mattering. Just let get healed because we need you in our tournament and then the next one. And he's played outstanding. I didn't know if it was the right thing to do, but I felt it was. And he's responded. Here's what he's learning how to lead, how to create for his teammates. He's understanding like he can. He can defend all this stuff. He's not a good defender. Look, when he want, he'll tell you what the guy he guarded scored. Like he'll say, you know, hey, he was one for eight. What are you talking about? So, but he's got a lot of courage. You got Malik Thomas, another freshman. Both of them. I don't know if this happens in football or other sports. That otherworldly confidence. Oh yeah, like you can't tell them those. Neither one of them. If I say something, what the heck, you can't do that. They're like, I'm good. It does not phase them because they both know how good they are because they're both gym rats and they live in there. And so now we, you know, we're down in numbers. No one's right and we're kind of beat up. We're playing five and six guys. So in the warm up line we only have one ball. But that's okay. Okay. I mean, you know, here we go, let's see what we do.

[A]

It's a long season. Obviously this is the most important part. But you, we just mentioned Auff and being special. Here's a Hembo stat. I don't know if you know this Hembo, obviously ESPN stats. I almost a God, but kind of guru. Guru. Auff has scored 60 points, second most by an underclassman his first two career NCAA tournament games. Other than who Steph Curry, guy's pretty good.

[C]

Pretty good company.

[A]

I think that's worked out pretty good. I think, I think that has worked out out.

[H]

And having a signature shoe with AI who I coached when we were in Philadelphia and I love him. He and I have stayed in touch. I got about 10 guys that have signature shoes and you know, I have them all in my office.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[H]

You know we have 13 all stars, two MVPs. Check 6 billion in salaries. I mean and, and the, the guys I have on this team, team Billy, they're, they're going to be NBA players because they deserve to be. Now they got the challenge of their lives with Arizona. Tommy's done an unbelievable job with his team. And so we're, we're going in like let's go, let's see who we are. Probably have to make adjustments as the game unfolds because how they're going to play and you know what, seeing what they'll do defensively to us because we're a good offensive team, we score 90 against game and so they'll probably do some different things. We'll have to see.

[A]

Okay, so let's talk about you having to manage different things. Go ahead, Debug.

[D]

Yeah. So obviously this is March Madness in Arizona. It's all about that. But this is a little bit away from that. You just mentioned some of these great players that you've coached. How. How do you manage? Like a player chasing history. Because one of your former players, bam, he just scored 83 in the NBA. And I heard you say, I've got 12 guys in the NBA, NBA who have scored 50 points. And all of them will say, I held them back. So when the player is in that mode, like, how do you balance if the game's in hand, Do I let him chase his history? Or is it all about the win or resting or whatever it is? How do you balance that as a coach?

[H]

You know what's crazy? That these kids will know. They will do whatever it takes to win a game so we can survive. Last game, high point was really good. Pat didn't watch the game because he was watching hockey or something.

[A]

I watched it.

[H]

Game was really a good game. Game. And at the end, Billy, I know Darius made his shots, but the reason he could make those shots is Billy had two steals and two ridiculous rebounds. One block. And I said, where did it come from? He said, I just didn't want it to end that way. I mean, so I did whatever I had to do. And that's why if you, you have a bunch of really good guys, they're not worried about themselves. It's my job. What do I have to do? What's my job?

[A]

Job?

[H]

And then they're going to have to make plays. I mean, we've had it all year where guys have done and it's always somebody different. Trevin, Brazil, some guys that I'm offered this. And I said, well, you should go there if you want to come with us. We've had 80 players drafted. We had 50 first round draft picks. We've had. Should I keep going?

[A]

Yes.

[H]

We had 12 guys that scored 50 in the NBA. We've had another 15 that scored 40 or more.

[A]

More.

[H]

We've had 13 all stars, 45 all star games. We've had ready seven in one all star game. They're only 24. Seven of them for us. And last year we had six.

[A]

So.

[H]

So if it's all about money, you gotta go. We're gonna be fair. You're gonna be well taken care of. But someone else may be more desperate and offer you more. Then go there, there. If you think I just keep coming back, don't trip over nickels trying to get the 200 million. Does that make sense?

[A]

Yeah, absolutely. People are making penny decisions whenever we're talking about, you know, Benjamin's taking place in here. Yeah, I understand. It happens in everywhere, brother. Yeah, it happens everywhere. And you should see the people that

[H]

I say the guys made $6 billion.

[A]

Yeah, you said that earlier. I was trying to lead you back into it, but your ass just kept going to Father 45 All Stars. Yeah, I try to get you to the real one. Six billion, brother. That's where, that's where we want to head this train towards of self. Hey, yeah, this is what I do stuff. Yeah, you're a legend dude in the game. That's what we learned whenever we got a chance to chat with you. Whenever you took the Arkansas job, it was like, I want to change 30 more families is how you described it. And that was like a crazy way to look at like I, I didn't expect like how many, how many championships. I. Championships will come if I take care of 30 more families. And it does feel like that is what your players say about you as well. And a lot of your players doing very well on TV right now. Feels like we got a good basketball IQ kind of happening everywhere. On that note, they are smart. Yes, they are smart. It feels like, let me tell you,

[H]

we brought in three, five star players for next year. But right now you're like, if a bunch of these guys get drafted now I got to figure out is any coming back, how many, what are we doing in the portal? You know what, how do we. It's like normally when the season ends, my toes are in the water on the Jersey shore. I can't do that anymore. The season ends. Okay, let's. We got to rebuild our team.

[A]

You heading to the Italian Bahamas? The Jersey Shore is my favorite thing that I've ever heard in my life. But on that whole note there, Tone has a question for you.

[F]

Yeah, coach. This is the second straight year, the second time ever, that it's all major conference teams in the sweet 16. And we've talked a lot about how, you know, these mid major guys, they perform really, really well and then because of nil, they go up to these major conference teams. Does that make the competition harder? Because all of the talent keeps rising to these teams. So I don't want to say there's like no cupcake games or whatever, but all of the major talent is now on all these major conference teams. Does that make it harder to win?

[H]

It does. But here's the issue. We're letting 27 and 28 year olds playing college basketball. If you want to be a pro, go pro. There should be an age limit. 25. We're letting kids transfer every year, every day that. Well, they can transfer four to five times. Can't have that. And who it hurts the most are the. I couldn't have done what I did at UMass and probably not at Memphis. This, in this environment, probably couldn't have because there are. When you're hard on kids and you make it uncomfortable and you challenge them and you're truthful, they want to leave. I'm leaving. I'm out. So now you got to know, we got to do something. You want to transfer once without penalty. If the coach leaves, leave, that's fine. But after those transfers, you got to sit out of here year one. It helps them academically. They can't go to four different schools in four years and get a college degree. They can't. And if they're still in college, it means they're not pros or you'd be in the NBA. And so what I'm trying to say is, let's get some guardrail. I don't care what they make. Figure it out. Figure out what we're paying them. That's not a coach, but transferring. How about this one? Okay, These collectives, I'm throwing this out for your 10 million people or 20 million, however many.

[A]

I like the way you talk about our. Like you talk about your own. I don't know. Ours is real. But yours might be. Huh?

[H]

Yours is real. Okay, but how about these collectives that are on campus? They can only be involved with current players who have been on campus a year. Then you can do whatever. I don't care how much you pay. Paying, because that's like the Bird rules. The home team gets to pay more. So now the kid would stay. You can't be involved in recruiting. You can't be involved in the portal. You can't make. But the kid on campus who has established himself for a year and wants to stay qualifies. Let those collectives pay them.

[A]

Yeah, you could qualify for. You can even put like a B or a C. Need a C or better. Or be like. You can make it A. Qualified. Qualify for that entire thing. Now, I don't know how that would go for basketball practice, you know, or what the majors are over there in Arkansas. And I don't know if that would have been great for me as a student athlete, but I like the fact that you're saying, let's go Ahead and allow these collectives that want to give money to athletes to make our athletic teams better. Let's let them do it, but let's have them qualify for it. Not just before you even step foot on campus, collect this thing, and then who knows what's real on either side. There it is. It's pretty chaotic. And we're learning through Coach K and you now. Now that all the football shit's happening in basketball, we're all having the same. I think. Right. Isn't that kind of feeling the same way?

[H]

Every. Every coach in every sport is challenged by this. Everyone. And we're all going through the same thing. And let me say this. It falls on the coaches. It's not on the presidents, it's not on the ads. Because if it was, this would be fixed already. All right? It's not been fixed. And they. They say about, well, they'll take us to court. Let them. There's. Sometimes it's good to be sued. It's. You know, you're like, okay, sue us. We're worried about, would you really want your son to go to four different schools in four years? How do you even get to know the coach? How do you establish who you are? How do you get it? And it's all based on money. So let's take care of the kids when they're there. And they do well. And I like what you're saying. Saying maybe there's certain things they got to do that they are eligible for this, and then let that part of it go, because you're not in recruiting and you're not doing transfers. You're only doing your own players. And those kids deserve, if they want to stay, take care of them.

[A]

All right?

[H]

I appreciate football, softball, all of them.

[A]

You need to be in that room next time when they do the roundtable. When they do the roundtable. Yeah, they're at the White House because I believe I was in Buffalo.

[H]

I was invited. I had a game.

[A]

Sorry. I had a game.

[H]

Well, they said, well, why don't you miss the game? I said, are you nuts?

[A]

You wouldn't want me in the room if I would miss a game to go to that room. You wouldn't want me to be a person with a opinion if I was willing, as a head coach to skip a game to go to a meeting. Like, that's not the type of person you would want in there. You made. Right. Say, hey, Grazzi. Grazzi. In that entire thing, it sounds like this, though. You're saying, hey, we're in a position where we're able to pay. It sounds like you have a salary for your guys. Like, hey, this is what you make. Whenever you're on our team, you try

[H]

to figure out what you have, and if you're only paying eight guys, you can do. You can do it. If you're trying to play pay 12 guys, 15 guys, you better have double to the money. So the only issue becomes if someone gets hurt now all of a sudden, sudden, like right now, we're down to six guys. That becomes a little bit of an issue.

[A]

Hey, why don't you get your old ass in there? I think you're allowed to play now with these college rules. You go bop the work.

[F]

I know that.

[H]

I don't. I don't have the T shirts like you where you could see the. Yeah, there you go. That. That's what he's doing. I just don't watch this.

[A]

Yeah. What do you have? What do you have? What do you have? Let's see it. Let's see what it is. Go for. You got to get it on the screen there, you know? Oh, look at that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pittsburgh people, man. So obvious. So obvious. AJ Has a question for you about the. The guys you're trying to find in your culture. Go ahead, man.

[I]

Yeah, Coach. You mentioned how some of your younger guys have that otherworldly confidence that you mentioned. I guess if there. Can you think of any players in the past that you've had that kind of came in with that, and is it something you could coach into somebody? Is it possible to. To give a player and kind of cultivate that?

[H]

If they have to build that themselves, if I. It takes me to build them up, the minute I get on them, it tears them down. If they build their own confidence, there is nothing I can say that affects it other than maybe try to make them mad so they play harder or sit them down because they're not listening. Other than that. I mean, those guys, the. The biggest thing I can tell you, the guys that came with us and were gym rats, the Tyler Heroes, the Shays. I mean, I. Bams. I can go on and on. Brandon Knights back in the day. Anthony Davis and Michael Kidd. I. I don't want to see. I shouldn't have started that. Well, obviously, those guys. Live. Live. I walked in one morning and Tyler Hero was sleeping in the locker room on a chair because he didn't want to walk across the street to the lodge. He just said, I just stayed, and I just decided to stay. He called me about Darius and he said, does he Live in the gym. They all want to know because they understand if that's not who you are, you're never going to be an all star, are those. You're never going to be able to score 40 or 50 in that league.

[A]

Was Tyler like that in high school?

[B]

He.

[H]

Yeah, he was wired a little different because he thought, you know, he had a chip on his shoulder, lack of respect and all that stuff.

[F]

Stuff.

[H]

You know what I'm saying? So he was going to prove himself.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, we do.

[B]

And.

[H]

And he has. And Bam wasn't known that way. And Bam did some things for us that I. He. I'm like, man, I didn't even know he could do some of this stuff. And when he scored 83, come on. I don't care if you're in the gym by yourself, try to score 83 points.

[A]

It takes two hours. Put a clock on, run the clock, see if you can get it. Yeah, I appreciate that, Bam. I, I love, I love that it happened for him.

[I]

Yeah.

[A]

That came out of nowhere, though. As a guy who watches every basketball game.

[E]

Me too.

[A]

Me. Every basketball game that happens, I am watching it, Coach. You know that preparing for this type of thing. When Bam's name popped up as I was watching the game was not a headline. I was watching the game live, obviously, but when the headline popped up and reminded me that that had happened, I did not think Bam Adebayo's name would be the one with 83 points. And then it's like, well, he's the second guy ever scored 10 for the Miami Heat. I'm like, Bam's just been getting buckets down there in Miami forever. I guess that is what has been happening. And because it's not, what, Celtics or because it's not LeBron, it's not really, like, storyline. Is that kind of how Bam's been down there?

[D]

Yeah, he's been a very, very good player from Miami. He's represented Team USA multiple times. And if you ever hear stories about Heat players, they always mention Bam being a gym rat, kicking ass in one on one. So it was great for him to happen. And then if you know his story and his background, how he came up, you'll be even happier for him. So it was crazy to hear all the hate that came from it. Like, you have a game like that where he was doing that first quarter, the first half, the third quarter before the other at the end of the game, like, yeah, if you're going to go get 83, go get it.

[A]

Yeah. Who's his coach in College.

[H]

Yeah. How about this one? I got to tell you. Do you know the picture he has on his wall in his house, the trailer that he and his mother lived in? And it's big, big. He walks in, he is reminded. Everybody tells me he's not changed. He's the first in the gym. He's into it. He's a. That's what the Heat, that's their culture. If you're not that guy, you cannot be with the Heat. You don't fit.

[A]

What a stud. Good for Bam. Hey, Bam. Good for you, man. That's history. That's a real history. Forever history there in that entirety. Good for him earning that. Okay, so let's talk last question here about your current team. Con man has it for you.

[E]

Yeah, Coach, when you look around the sweet 16 and granted, you're locked in, you got Arizona, and I don't want to call you old because you look great and your hair is phenomenal, but there's a lot. You're Italian, of course, so it's going to last. But there's a lot of veteran coaches left. You know, Pitino, Sampson, yourself, Izzo, Barry. Is it kind of cool seeing, you know, as much as we've just talked about how college sports and college basketball has changed? Change that kind of. The old firm is still holding strong and, you know, carrying the torch. And when you look around at the other guys, too, do you see a new era of greatness? You know, Shire, Hurley's kind of in between or the guy at Arizona? Like there's kind of another era of great coaches coming up.

[H]

Yeah, there are. And those guys, I always say, you know, I'm giving my opinions, but you got to have some 40 year olds given their opinions of where they want this game to come. The guys that you mentioned all have respect for each other. Tommy Izzo and I've talked throughout the tournament. Mark Few. And I've talked throughout the tournament. I mean, when you're talking that group of guys, you know, we all been through the same kind of stuff. We've all been fired. You know, we've all made it through. And we also are not afraid to hold kids accountable. We're not afraid to make kids uncomfortable and, you know, just. Just seeing what's going on. You know, we got Sean Miller here. I mean, he. What he's done in Texas and now they're here in the sweet 16. How about they win two here and he's in the final four? I mean, it's. It. This is the greatest thing about this tournament. There's not best of three. It is one game. Nothing else matters what you did or what's ahead. It only matters what goes on. And like I said, we're playing a team in Arizona. Everybody knows they may be the best team in the country, but it's one game. Let's go play and see what happens.

[A]

You're the best. We'll talk to you soon. Good luck the rest of the way. Thank you for taking time. You're the best, man. You are the man. I can't wait until you have a chance to put those toes in that Jersey beach over there, you know, and just really have yourself a day. Day. I don't know what type of Gaba ghoul is coming through. I don't know what type of Fazoli is coming out, but I do. What?

[F]

No Fazolis.

[A]

That's not true.

[C]

They're lining the boardwalk, baby.

[F]

Guarantee. He doesn't even know what that is.

[A]

He lives in Kentucky and Arkansas. He knows what Fazoli is for sure. For sure.

[F]

Yeah, he does.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. Ladies and gentlemen, that's coach Jean Calarazi. Grazi. He knows fizzles.

[C]

Come on.

[F]

No, he doesn't. He's just laughing.

[A]

He knows fast food. Italian.

[G]

Yes, he does.

[A]

Lived in fast food.

[E]

Italian guy had a corner table at Buka.

[C]

What do you mean?

[A]

Fazoli's has a drive thru and it's Italian.

[C]

Fazoli's has a. A Michelin star last I checked.

[A]

I don't think so.

[C]

Unbelievable.

[A]

A Michelini.

[H]

Yeah.

[F]

Well, I mean, I didn't know what Fazoli. You're right. I didn't know what Fazoli was until I moved to this dumpster of Italian food of a town, so.

[E]

Whoa.

[A]

I. Whoa. Jesus. These little wees. I'll tell you what. Those, those breadsticks.

[C]

Oh my God. Piping hot.

[G]

Every.

[C]

I don't know how they do it.

[H]

I don't know.

[D]

Olive garden.

[A]

Oh, OG's will hold it down too for you.

[E]

I talk about it down.

[F]

OG is a step above you.

[A]

Yeah. Og's is a place that will certainly. How's OG's doing is OG's all right. Remember, they weren't a lot. We weren't allowed to do OG's there for like a month and a half.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Who.

[D]

What happened?

[A]

I think OG's got canceled there for about maybe a week.

[F]

You guys are watching the wrong television channels.

[A]

I was on the Internet more than

[E]

any of us in that garden.

[A]

Yeah, but I won't, I, I, I was excited to get Back in there and get the bo. Yeah.

[C]

Bottomless breadsticks and soup.

[A]

Yeah. I was excited to get back to you. We're going to do some journalism here. AJ how do you feel about it?

[I]

I feel great about it.

[A]

You know, I think if not us, then who.

[F]

Yeah, I'd agree.

[A]

A massive thing happened. Like, a massive thing happened. The NFLPA is the players association, the players union. Okay. For a long time, the players association, if you ask the players association, they'll show you a video of how important they are. Obviously at one point during what? Don't laugh. H. Please.

[G]

Not.

[A]

Not. Yeah, you've watched the same video I've watched.

[I]

Anyone, anyone showing a video to show you how important they are, that's. That's a tough watch, I think.

[A]

Okay, so on that note, AJ myself, many other like minded people like us have had questions about said union for a long time. You know, there's just interesting decisions. You're never going to get everything right. Obviously the NFL has billionaire lawyers that are negotiating on their end. The union's never going to be able to really keep up from a law talent perspective. But if they did have the talent for the lawyers, they would actually get picked up in the middle of the negotiation and taken to the NFL side for the negotiation. So the NFLPA in most players unions are fighting an uphill battle for sure, regardless, in every single business. But they're a very important bunch, They're a very important crew. And the NFLPA has elected a former player to be the executive Super Duper.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Okay, this guy sat as the super duper player guy, but he, there was never a player that was the super duper duper duper top. Okay? Always ex lawyer, always ex cfo, something like that. And there's certainly been stories. I don't think anybody's been perfect in any players union across any sport. Which leads to a lot of like minded people like us going like, I'm about sick of these people making decisions for me. So I don't think it's an easy to job. I don't think it's a fun one. But I do know we have somebody that's very passionate about it, who's about to be leading the NFLPA at least into its next CBA negotiations which are going to be worth billions and billions of dollars. Ladies and gentlemen, former NFLPA president, now executive director of the NFLPA, a man who was a fourth round draft pick in 2013, played nine years in the NFL and wow, he looks incredibly skinny. Now he's ready for all the suits he's gonna have to wear. Ladies and gentlemen, J.C. treader. J.C. super suit. Super suit. Super, super suit.

[E]

Jack, how do you do it?

[A]

Super suit. You on a peloton. Are you a big peloton guy? Yeah. Good to see you, jc. Okay. Didn't go shake your guys hands.

[E]

That's fine.

[A]

Hey listen, you're in politics world now. Take my fish politic world. Got to do that.

[G]

There's no, there's no babies to kiss. So I thrown off.

[A]

I understand. I respect that. I appreciate that. Okay. JC, thank you for joining us. Obviously there has been massive conversation about you taking the role in which you are currently sitting in. So did I describe that accurately? Where we've always had a player that's like president of nflpa, but normally it was somebody who has some sort of of legal skill set or other skill set that is actually head of nflpa. They're the ones kind of guiding everything. You now former player as super head of entire thing. How do you feel, is that an honor that you obviously weigh pretty heavy and why did you decide to do this? Because I read that you didn't want to do this I believe like a year ago. So if you could kind of just start from there and then we'll kind of roll off of that.

[G]

Yeah, starts. The first executive director was Gene Upshaw, which was a football player, started there and then we've had non players be executive directors since. Why I wanted to do it. I've loved the work of the nflpa. It's not easy work. It's been a passion of mine. I went to school for industrial labor relations, which is the study of unions and labor organizing. So it's something I've been passionate about.

[A]

Where'd you go to school?

[G]

Cornell.

[A]

So that would you would probably, if you weren't a former player player, fall in line with a human that would get an interview for said job.

[G]

Yeah. I say that my mom is probably the only mom of a football player that was disappointed I was drafted. She wanted me to go to law school. So it was a disappointment when I, when I decided to play football instead

[A]

of going to law school. Okay, so you are a suit in a football bun.

[G]

You can say that. I do like the super duper head guy. I might change the title to that.

[A]

Okay, now we're kind of brainstorming.

[G]

But when it comes to, you know, I did say I didn't, I didn't want the job at one point and I did step away from the union last summer and when I stepped away. It gave me time to. To reevaluate what I wanted. And as I took time away, it realized how much I really do love the job and love the mission and love the guys. And very few times you get to work for the good guys. And I think that's one thing we get to do. We get to work for the players that don't get everything they truly deserve. And that's something we want to fight for. For. And having the opportunity to come back and fight for that is something that's important to me.

[A]

How many years did you work with the NFLPA before you stepped away?

[G]

I was four years as president and then nine months as chief strategy officer.

[A]

So it was like five years. Ish. And then you stepped away for how many months?

[G]

Nine months.

[A]

Okay. Then you missed the game, said you want to get back into it while that happens, we're also trying to figure out who the next super duper head guy is.

[G]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. I assume players. How do you end up getting the role that you get the executive committee does the vote. How do you end up getting the role over maybe somebody else who wants a Cornell in labor relations that likes ball was potentially wanting to get the gig or any of the other candidates that were potentially qualified.

[G]

Yeah, Executive committee was the search committee. So they run the search. So it was a nine month or eight month search process. They hired Turnkey, which is an outside search firm that helps cultivate candidates and look through what's available out there. And obviously I wasn't part of the search other than my 1/100th of it of being a candidate. But I applied send in my information. They went through rounds of interview, ended up bringing three finalists to the board. And that's every locker room votes in their board of player rep that is in charge of making decisions on behalf of their locker room. So we were in San Diego, we interviewed in front of them, asked tough questions, got to know all three finalists, and then they made their decision.

[A]

I saw Mr. Jones, who had worked with the NFLPA for 18 years, I think I did not know who he was, but it seems like a lot of people respected him. He talked to Pablo Torre and it felt like there was a little bit of a negative reaction to you becoming the role that you have. I didn't listen to the entire thing. And we. Pablo Torre is going, by the way. He has courage to go. I mean, I think that's good for society is what people say. We God bless him for that. But I did hear that there was and read some of the headlines about the backlash that was kind of happening with you getting in there. What do you think is the main mission on why people maybe don't like that you're in there? And has the history of the NFLP been something that is changeable for future nflpa?

[G]

Yeah. You said Pablo's got the courage to go. I challenge him to have the courage to be right, which he hasn't been

[A]

for a very long time.

[G]

So he said a lot of things that factually just aren't true. Kind of created this narrative. It was very difficult to go through. Jalen Reeves Mabin, our president, just released an article yesterday, kind of highlighted a lot of those fact and fiction issues. So I think there's been a lot of misinformation out there. And in the end, I wouldn't be in this job if what was said about me was true. It would be disqualifying. So being able to stand in front of those guys and talk about the issues and talk about what didn't, didn't happen and then move forward. Right. Like, it's been a tough time for the union. The last eight months hasn't been great for anybody. Been a difficult time. The guys are tired. They put in a ton of work to find the next Ed, and now it's about moving forward. We got a huge issue coming up. We've got a CBA we're going to be fighting in the next four to five, five years. We have a ton of work to do to prepare for that. And now I think we're focused on moving forward and not looking back to the past.

[A]

Congratulations on the mindset of moving forward. I'm excited to see what that looks like. Whenever you think about reasons that the NFLPA has maybe failed in the past, and then because you've been a part of four, four years, nine months, you said you've been part of in there in Boots on the Ground, and obviously have felt the effects of other negotiations before. As a player for nine years in the NFL. NFL. When you've seen what the mistakes are of the previous NFL PAs, and obviously I think a lot of player unions have had downfalls or shortcomings. I think that's kind of a part of it all. You're battling against billionaire lawyers. What are the mistakes that have been made in the past, you think? And, like, what does the future look like without those? And how can those happen? Do you have to. Is it a rehole? Do you have to change the entire operation? Like, is that what you think you have to do? Like, how do you Go about maybe having a different future than it was for however long it's been, whatever it's been.

[I]

Yeah.

[G]

I won't talk to his, like, mistakes. I'll talk about his opportunities.

[A]

Oh, I like that. That's that. That's that shit. That's that Gary Vee immediate positive reaction. I like that a lot.

[G]

And I'll say one of them is the times we've been at our best is when we've been aligned and engaged and had players involved. And that's all players in our, in our ecosystem. There's a reason I got on a plane and flew out here to, to come here on your show.

[A]

Thank you.

[G]

You were a topic of conversation in the meeting last week of how do we get people with big platforms who feel some type of way about the NFLPA back engaged?

[A]

You guys know I hate the nflpa.

[G]

We, we do know that there is a reason why we made it a point and talked about how do we get more people back involved and understand it. I would love to understand the issues you have with the NFL, pa. We're never going to be perfect. I'm never going to be perfect. But the only way we get together and move forward is if we all come back together. Because to your point, we're always going to be underfunded and understaffed compared to. To the NFL. Always going to be true. Never going to be bigger than they are. But what we do have is solidarity and connection and bringing people together. That's the only time we ever succeed. And we are the only body that can stand up to the NFL. So if you, which I think you do care about players, if you do care about them and want them to succeed and be better, we need you involved, too. We need you. Your voice at the table.

[A]

All right. Unbelievable. I would love to be a part of obviously helping players. I am a huge supporter of former players having success and players having success across the board. It's just like there was just a lot of decisions being made. It felt like they were just like, I think these are bad. I think these are just bad decisions that are taking place. So I'd love to assist however possible. Now, on that note, is that the mantra going forward? What is like kind of the mantra under your leadership of what the NFLPA is like? Let's just set this up the best for players, ex players, you know, because that's a big talking point. Ex players. It's like previous regimes of the NFLPA almost, from what I heard directly being said, and then also other things. It was Very much like, hey, this is our league now. They had their league at their time, you know, but every player in there is going to be a retired player at some point. Like, nobody's going to play forever. I think Tom Brady tried it. He might.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Michael Back Landa, I think, yeah. Joe George played till he was like 49 or something. So every player is going to be an ex player at some point. And it felt like there was never any representation for ex players through the nflpa. Then I would go to the NFL and I'd say, hey, why don't you take care of the ex players? Let's get an insurance commercial. Let's get ex players some more insurance. Because obviously football, with the physicality insurance would be a good thing. NFL, you guys could do this easily. This would be a good thing. And you look like good people because you're doing, especially with everything you got going on. They said, oh, the NFLPA is normally the ones that take care of the. So I think there's just like, fundamentally so many things that I've just disagreed with with what the NFLPA has done, and it feels like you potentially have a chance to kind of restart it all. Is that how you feel and what are the first couple steps to kind of doing a different NFLPA or a better nflpa?

[G]

Yeah. I hope the fact that I'm a former player helps with some of these issues, understanding what they've gone through. I'm a former player now. I've gone through that transition. I know what the body feels like after you step away. And then it's about making sure players lead the decisions and doing that through data. I'm a big data guy, big fan of. Of data and making sure that we follow where our players are. I think one of my things I've seen over the course of my five years involved is I don't think we always land exactly where the players are because we don't know exactly where the players are. So what we've started doing is surveying all of our players. We get 17, 1800 players, active players, responding to what they care about, and that way we can actually target the issues. I think some of the problems with the 2020 CBA was every game that we fight for is hard. Like, it's hard in negotiations to get improved improvements. And what we can't do is get an improvement. And players look at it and be like, I don't really care about that. And then you really wasted a lot of effort to not get something they care about. So we really need to Know exactly what players care about, make sure we hear from them directly. And the same thing with former players. We have a form of player convention at the back end of our rep meeting in San Diego where I was elected, met with the leaders of those chapters that organize players throughout were former players throughout the country and talked about their issues and talked about what they care about and talk what would make their lives better. So we're trying to get that information so we can fight for them better.

[A]

Who are you negotiating with? The NFL? Are you the government, NFL partners, sponsors? Like who, who all on the day to day basis is the NFL negotiating with like fanatics? Are we negotiating with Reuben?

[G]

NFL is the main one for the cba. And then obviously we have a licensing deal with different companies. So we have a business side and

[A]

felt when are those deals up? Do you know?

[G]

Madden I think comes up in February, 2026 is the next big.

[A]

Okay, so hey, video games, here we go. Creators. Madden's up in 2027 need the players and you guys need a check to show up with at these meetings to make people interested. Don't we all understand that? Madden checks, Madden checks coming on the other side of that. Okay, so there are deals that you can potentially negotiate to bring money instantly into the pockets of players, which ultimately is what they're going to look at the most and feel most interested about.

[G]

I think it's one of the things, I think health and safety matters too, but I think money always matters as well.

[A]

Yeah. All right, well, good luck out there. I think you got a chance. I think you've got a CH1. Could be a big one for the players. Oh yeah, that could be a big one for the players. AJ Has a question for you. Jc.

[I]

Yeah, JC What? How do you get the players on the same page? Like, I know like the, the, the rep meetings back in the day, obviously they're. End of the day you, you got to hang out to get your check and all that stuff. But with players on such different like levels of their career, you know, you got the superstars making the crazy money everyone sees, but then everybody else, I guess. How do you get all of them on the same page? I just think it's, it's such a difficult task. How do you start?

[A]

Start that?

[G]

Yeah. First off, we, we do direct deposit now, so I know we talk about the mad checks, physical checks, so no one's showing up.

[A]

There's no way. Yeah, right.

[I]

No way.

[A]

I needed a fungible, I needed something in my hand walking out of that place. But I, I Actually didn't sign up for the Madden checks. The last three years of my career because I didn't join your guys's pa.

[G]

We're gonna get you back. We're, we're gonna get you back involved.

[A]

Yeah, we'll see. There's a lot of damage done.

[E]

There's.

[G]

To get guys involved, one is to make them feel like it matters to show up. You don't want to have a meeting where people show up and feel like we sat here for 30 minutes. I could go home to my kids, I could get some rehab and I wasted 30 minutes of my day. I think the fact that we're heading into a CBA discussion in the near future, I think there's reasons to fight. And you talk about there are people that make a ton of money, there are quarterbacks, there are practice wide guys. They all have different issues. Making sure you speak to all those issues. You can't just speak to one niche group and think everybody's going to care about that group. We've got 2,500 players, players, all with their individual struggles. You need to be talking about their individual solutions to those struggles.

[A]

Yeah. So you got to represent everybody. That's always kind of the move the NFL kind of relies upon is because the majority of people aren't the high end people. So the majority of people in the NFL are going to want to vote something through whenever maybe the superstars don't want to vote something through. That divide has been an issue since the quarterback club. Whenever Jim Kelly, Troy, Dan Farve, Farve, they all kind of separated from the union and kind of did that. Do you see a time where maybe quarterbacks, especially with the way their kind of money is going, where they become in their own little bracket of negotiations with teams where as opposed to the salary cap taking a hit because of quarterback, quarterback potentially just becomes its own little entity or little world, if that makes any sense. And have you guys done any full strategy on what you're pitching in the next CBA whenever it comes to salary cap allocation, what's the salary cap going to do? And obviously how we can go about getting it, I assume yes, but would love to hear some of your thoughts on that.

[G]

I officially start in eight days, so I haven't done any of that yet. So I've got a little bit wild.

[A]

Okay, good delay, good delay, good delay. Don't need an answer right now. Good idea.

[G]

But when it comes to the quarterbacks, I think the quarterbacks are critical to the overall union and getting people involved and getting players to have a voice and a say. Having them show up to the bargaining table is important too. Like these all impact them. Yes, they make a ton of money. Yes, they are the stars of the league.

[C]

League.

[G]

But I think they do also care about all the other things that impact their teammates and themselves well after they're done playing.

[A]

Yeah, the NBA had all their big like that's, that's great for negotiation whenever your stars are kind of in there. But normally the deals are end up being made by the people that aren't the stars and the stars end up not liking normally or loving everything that's happening. That's a tough balance. I'm excited to see how you go about doing that. D Bud has a question for you.

[D]

Yeah, J.C. what do you feel like is the most common misconception when it comes to nflpa? Not only from the people within the ecosystem, which is I feel like more important, but outside of the ecosystem, like the players and former players.

[G]

I would say it's that it's their union. It should be their unions. The misconception would be that it's not the players union or it's not player led. This is, this is player led. And I think my election adds to that. As a former player and what I've always been about is bringing players to the table and getting them involved and making sure they have a voice in a say and making sure everybody uses their voice to lead us forward. We've had some successes during my time as president. I think our Covid negotiations were extremely successful. I would hold those up as an example of how it works and how our players use their voice. We had the issue we want to play where over 400 of our players, a lot of the stars use their platform and their voice to fight for health and safety issues inside the COVID negotiations. And we did really well in those Covid negotiations and that push by our star players helped us also succeed succeed in the financial aspect of those negotiations too. So getting guys involved, making sure they understand the issues and the power of their voice. You're not always talking about work stoppages and lost game checks. There are ways to gain leverage and get people involved to make a difference well below losing money.

[A]

Do you plan on showing up with ways or avenues to generate more capital for the business for both of you guys? For instance, has the NFLPA thought about maybe getting a game sold to a platform or agreed to a game happening on a platform so that the NFL can profit off of it? More like is there when you go in and negotiate with the NFL, is there a, hey, this is what you guys are making. We're a part of it. Or how do you view kind of the partnership with the NFL through these next negotiations? Because the NFL could pick up a Wednesday afternoon game on Apple and get, I don't know, hundreds of million. Not Apple, any other platform. Apple hasn't gotten into the game yet.

[E]

No, no.

[A]

Kind of weird.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

And it feel kind of weird that they have not gotten into the game. Yeah, I guess they don't have to because they are in everybody's steep price too. But it feels like every platform that wants to get in will pay whatever to get in. Amazon, the number was like triple. They pay Netflix for just Christmas and whatever. The NFL can kind of sell off these little showcase games, let alone the 18th game that's going to happen. Is there a way to negotiate and understand that that is great for the salary cap for players? Players, while also trying not to get completely shafted? Like, how do you think you're going to go about doing business with the NFL? Have you thought about that yet? And in your eyes, through the COVID negotiations, how much did you learn about how business with them actually works? Because I might be very naive to the entire process. These are billionaire lawyers trying to get every penny, I assume.

[G]

Yeah. One, the league is very good at making money. I think that's one thing we all know. They are really, really good at increasing revenue. And luckily we're in a revenue sharing business. So as they increase revenue, we get our percentage of the pie. I think when you talk about new time slots or game slots or more games, I think our focus is on the health and safety of that, of how do we make sure we keep our players safe. And being a former player, I played when I was 16. I played when I was 17. I had a question yesterday where it was like, do we know the impact of that extra game? It's like I knew how it felt playing 16 games. It's not like I was rosy playing 16. And now the 17th is a question. It is very hard to get through the season. I think everybody that's played the game understands the, the physical toll it takes. And our job is to make sure that we don't set our guys up for more physical pain and anguish late in their careers and after they retire. So I think that's always our job is to protect our players. That's the job of the union, is protect their members. And that's our focus.

[A]

Yeah, they're saying something about like maybe only 17 games for there's so many different ideas on how the negotiation happens because, man, there's so much more money available now than ever for football, especially the primetime games or specialty games. So the NFL trying to get as international as they're trying to get. That 18th game, as soon as the 17th game was agreed to, that 18th game was certain, certainly coming. And then they're like another bye week. Sure, yeah, okay. We'll add another week of primetime games. It's like, I think the amount of money is going to be absurd. I'm excited to see how you balance it all, genuinely, because we know offensive lineman especially. I mean, Wednesdays, maybe they're back from a Sunday game, maybe. And by backup, mean, like, just walking around doing life, especially late in season. Thursday, some guys was a first day getting up, and then now everybody has a Thursday Night Football game. And it's like, you kind of shoehorned that in there. But now it's like one of the most valuable assets the NFL. It's. You're gonna have to balance a lot of Cornell brain. I'm excited to see how that whole thing goes. Go ahead, Ty.

[C]

Yeah, so just for you personally, and maybe this doesn't apply to you because you did major in this at Cornell and you obviously have an interest in it and you want to do it, but how. How do you know not potentially, like, look at. At getting burned out. Because it feels like every single negotiation you're going to go through is going to be very contentious. Like, the NFL is not just going to give anything up. How do you make sure you don't go into these. And it's like an adversarial tone where you're almost like, hey, these guys, we got to beat these guys. When you know, in reality, like, they're your partners and you kind of need them to succeed. Like, what is that like? Because I imagine this is a incredibly stressful and hard job to do.

[G]

Yeah, I think first off, you're right. Like, you got two partners and you're locked together. Right? There's. You're not. You can't. They can't go get another union to deal with, and we can't go get different management. So. So we're locked in as partners going forward. One, this isn't to refer my personal burnout. This isn't the JC Treader show. This isn't the JC Treader unions is the players union. So, yes, my job is to lead this organization and get us organized, but we have players leading and making the decisions. And then second, I love, love this Work. This is something that is an absolute passion of mine. I am someone who says I don't really want a work life balance or if I love my work so much, it's not really work and I enjoy doing it, you know, all hours of the day. And that's how I feel about this work. It's why I wanted to come back. And then it comes to those negotiations, you. Each negotiation is different. Sometimes things are collaborative and you work forward through the issues and you don't need to fight about it and you come to a good conclusion. Other times they take test you and you test them and it gets to more of a fight and in the end you come back together like any relationship is, and you realize how to move forward. So that will always change through each, each negotiation, each issue between the two sides.

[A]

What's your tactic? What's your tactic? You do the bread, you come in nice and let's get to the meat of this thing. And then we had to end out a little bit. Nice. What is your kind of, what is your style? You think, what's it going to be like? Are you winning them over? Hey, how we doing? How we doing? Today's a good day. Today's good day. Are you, hey, I hate your guts and this is what's going to happen.

[G]

No, I, I don't think it's one. You can't just be one thing. Right. You can't just be a. Like I'm going to be a hard ass all the time and make everything difficult because I don't. I think you lose a lot of low hanging fruit when everything's difficult.

[A]

Yeah.

[G]

So if you instead, I think working collaboratively as far as you can, and then eventually you have to make a decision of what's best for your players. If things start coming up that are bad for your players, like the COVID negotiations when we couldn't get help, health and safety protocols, then you have to elevate it to more of a fight and then you see where things shake out from there. So you want to go as far as you can without going nuclear. But you have to be willing to and capable of going nuclear.

[A]

Yeah, you have to. They have to know you could potentially go nuclear. There has to be a constant fear of that. I just from my experiences, has to be a constant fear of this could end whether you. If that's how you would like this to dance, I think we could certainly do that. Let them have it, bud. But also you need them and they are fucking very good. The thing that I didn't like about the last NFL PA's representatives. It was my rookie symposium down there in Florida and I think it was Damari Smith's first time speaking. Maybe, I don't know. I think he was very, I think it was his first time. And I, I just, you know, I've always been a fan of business. Like, I enjoy the, the act of making money through business, you know, and the way he spoke about we're going to war with the NFL, you know, we got war chest and this is going to be a long fight or whatever. My immediate thought is like, well, they're billionaires. We're not. So long fight not good for us. I think they potentially ice us out and aren't they our partners? You know, like, shouldn't we just like maybe not just want to kill them? Maybe like, hey, you guys are really good at making money. You also need us. Can there ever be simpatico? Is that ever possible? Is that, do you think that is a possible thing or am I way too naive in thinking that? Like Roger Goodell, I feel like is of the best speakers in the history of speaking. You put him up against like politicians, you put him up against anybody. He is one of the best speakers of all time. But I think you also have very good business. I think he's a very talented business person. Obviously you've talked about revenue sharing, how we both profit, but is there a chance that you guys do like that type of business with the NFL or. Mike, should I stop thinking that that's anywhere near reality?

[G]

That's absolutely possible. Now, now, again.

[A]

Okay, okay, let's do that. Let's get, let's, let's take advantage of their super, super genius because those fuckers are really smart over there and they got a lot of money and if we can get lifetime insurance out of these fuckers, that'd be great. Aj, Wouldn't that be great news?

[I]

Yeah, that should be first on the docket, isn't it, jc?

[A]

Yeah, jc, it's gotta be it. And then on that note, there's also something that is potentially causing long term problems. That was a big fight on the social media. Go ahead, aj.

[I]

Yeah, jc, he's talking about the whole, the whole field turf situation that we were players are up in arms, like what, the last couple years, I feel like it's died down lately. Where are we with that as far as trying to make all these places have natural grass as a surface?

[G]

Yeah, I think all players know what they like and know what it feels like to play on turf versus Grass. I think measuring that's important, but I think the player experience is important. We surveyed the members. 92% of the members say they want to play on natural grass. So pretty, Pretty clear. Not. Not much doubt in those numbers. But I think what we've seen and what the leagues talks about is that the, the injury rates have come together and they're similar. They're comparable between grasses and turf. The issue behind those numbers is that grass has actually ticked up in injuries, which means we have to make sure we're having good surfaces. So it's not just having grass and going out like on a muni golf course and say, well, this is Augusta. No, it's not. It's different. We need to make sure.

[A]

Kentucky bluegrass.

[F]

That's right.

[G]

We need. We need top tier grass surfaces and making sure we have performance to keep guys healthy and safe and be able to perform out there.

[A]

Yeah, we need super grass. Don't you think we need super grass?

[G]

I think super supergrass.

[E]

Vaughn Miller's got it.

[A]

Jc, why'd you sign up for this job, dude? Like, seriously, I. I'm very thankful you did. And you said you love it. Yeah, it's your passion and everything like that, man. Soon as you were named the super duper guy, I was like, man X players up there. Hell yeah. Congratulations. And then I opened up, I'm like, oh, there's gonna be so many people that are mad about this. And then not only that, you're gonna be judged completely on how your group of people negotiate against 32 billionaires. I think they're going to be moving one of the non billionaires who's an owner. Probably not going to be an owner for longer, you know. So we're going to assume these are the richest people on earth getting into the NFL and you're going to have to negotiate against them and you're going to be judged on how that negotiation goes for the rest of your life. Good luck, dude. Good luck, dude.

[G]

Appreciate it.

[A]

Appreciate the pump up that is. I'm thankful you're the guy for it. I didn't know we had a Cornell law union labor major guy. I didn't know we had that. I knew you were the NFL PA president. I thought you just really liked it. And you're like super pro players. I didn't know you actually went to school for this shit. That's like the type of person you want running the thing, so certainly qualified. I should have known that. Even though my trust in the NFLPA making right decisions is pretty low at this stage. I should have known that you probably weren't qualified for the role. Okay, that's pretty fucked up by me to even question that innocent entirety. But after talking to you and knowing you here for a couple years, we do believe you're going to try your absolute best for the players, and we're grateful for that. So good luck out there. And obviously your shins are going to get banged really hard through this entire process, but you know that. And you look really. That's a good quarter zip there, isn't it?

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[E]

Clean.

[A]

Deba. Look at that corner.

[D]

It is very clean.

[G]

Things have changed. Look at that pa. Looking up.

[A]

It is looking up.

[G]

Great clothes.

[A]

You sending that to the boys? You sending them?

[G]

We'll get you a bunch.

[A]

No, not me. Whoa.

[G]

We got the guys got them. But you're getting one, too.

[A]

Oh, the boys already got them. Oh, they got.

[G]

Oh, you got them. Big Lululemon guys.

[A]

Yeah, we like. Right? Sure. Yeah, we'll take a few.

[G]

I guess I'll send them over.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, me putting an NFLPA thing right on my chest would certainly be quite a move in my history, you know, in my life.

[G]

I campaigned out, said I'm going to get him in a NFL PA quarters.

[A]

There we go. Good politic. He didn't shake the hand earlier.

[C]

True.

[A]

Yeah. But you just dropped a campaign thing. He was ready for business. We appreciate you, J.C. good luck out there, man. And hopefully you and Pablo, you know, can maybe get together, because it feels like. And it sounded like maybe not, but maybe at some point, you know, so that we can all get the betterment for our players, you know, which would be good in the end. And I think that's all we're all hoping for. So good luck out there. I appreciate you.

[G]

Appreciate it.

[A]

All right, we're going to take a break on the other side. We'll wrap up today's sporting events. Tony, anything you say from Live from Hammer.

[F]

I'm all in on the people, pa. Hell, yeah.

[D]

All right.

[A]

You selling merch? You got a mark over here.

[F]

Yep, that's all took.

[A]

Maybe you should start thinking about selling merch.

[G]

Talk about making money. Talk about driving revenue.

[A]

Foxy just said, hey, what about the report cards? Obviously, you can't just once, as a person who has gone through a few negotiations, and I'm not going to act like I want Cornell or I'm a super genius, but once I heard the NFL come out and say report cards. Yeah. You're disparaging our entire. Yeah, right. That's breach. We cannot just Be putting out how terrible our businesses are. As soon as I heard them say that, it felt like they were very going to take it very seriously. Especially if they start saying like, hey, this is in the contract, this is breach. There's some shit that we could potentially follow up with this. When they start putting that phrasing out. I thought the report cards had some were in some trouble and then lo and behold, those report cards slithered their way to a reporter and they got out. How do you think that whole thing's going to go? Honestly? Because I think public announcement is the only way to pressure some people into changing anything. I do think that is a factual thing, but I assume they feel very strong about the disparagement argument that those can potentially be for the shitty ass buildings and shitty ass facilities that we don't want in the league, by the way. Nobody wants in the league. How do you kind of navigate that while actually applying a bit of pressure? So there's actual change, but also they're gonna hold that shit over your head pretty heavily. I think from what it sounded like.

[G]

Yeah, we gotta make sure our guys know what's going on. I think that's been one the of. One of the important things about report cards is making sure that guys know where they're going. I talked to one guy who signed with a team and I asked did you know it was going to be like it was. And he was like, I had no idea until I showed up. I regretted I signed that contract before. So making sure our guys have their decisions and then again we're not allowed to release it publicly. That's been decided. But we're going to make sure our guys have the information.

[A]

Yeah, you're right. Hey, journalists do journalist stuff.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

That's why they're journalists.

[D]

Be right

[A]

to get to a break. He's pretty pumped up about you. Good luck out there. We're pulling for you, man.

[G]

Appreciate it.

[A]

I mean the, the owners of these NFL teams are only getting richer, you know, so that means who's coming alongside those people are just richer lawyers, right?

[J]

Yeah.

[A]

Come on, dude, do it. Maybe bring some beers in there. Maybe lighten, you know.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Maybe play some music, you know, let's get some of the guys, tell some stories out there. Let's get some laughs. Let's get some big pops in there. Let's let them get comfortable with us. Understand we need to do business together. We need each other here.

[D]

I'm sure those lawyers are beer with the boys type of guys.

[A]

Yeah, definitely put that beer in front of them. The first thing they'll do, snag that thing up and just put a little alcohol in their body. That'll come clarify some things. We need to get in a room with those people. Good luck, dude.

[G]

Appreciate it.

[A]

I don't know if you can just booze them up. I don't know if that'll work.

[G]

I hope and try until you try

[A]

it, you know, could you imagine they walk into the first negotiation with him. There's a keg in the back corner.

[C]

Who's thirsty?

[A]

You got Garth Brooks in the corner. Oh, playing the guitar. Welcome to be. We want to light and low a little bit. That'd be great. Set the tone. Precedent lawyers come. This is unprofessional. But they have to work with.

[G]

You have to.

[A]

We're all we got.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, actually, Khan has a quick question on that note.

[E]

Yeah, the biggest thing too with the fields is the refs. Right now, the. The referee kind of standoff. I don't know where the NFLPA with the referee PA is, but the referee PA deal we found out is like the greatest deal ever. They don't have to answer to anybody. And if someone says you guys stink, they basically tell you to fuck off. Like, where's that stuff stand? Because if replacement refs happen, that's going to be a nightmare. And then what's the deal with the microchip? We're about to start baseball and they're bringing in AI ABs. Like, why aren't we working with that in the NFL?

[A]

Yeah. What's going on?

[G]

Deep, deep question there. Save that one for the. For the last one of the day one refs union. I'm going to talk to the. The refs union. I can talk to Roger too. I got understanding what's going on. So I don't have any background information on what's going on there. Negotiations, that'll take time. And then the technology. I think they did some of the microchip for the first down. Right. It's not. Hasn't moved.

[E]

Preseason. Yeah.

[G]

Yeah. So we'll see how that shakes out and. And how it works. But I have no updates on that. Again, day negative. Eight in the job.

[C]

Still.

[G]

Still eight.

[A]

How about the ref stuff? Will you. Will the players be involved in that or is that strictly NFL ref stuff?

[G]

That's. That's their own union. They have their own union, their own representation. Now, again, we support unions getting what they deserve. Like we want make sure the refs get taken care of and treated fairly. I think we stand with all the other unions that are fighting in collective bar bargaining. So we would love to help them in any way possible.

[A]

What about the Longshore Union? You remember them?

[F]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Jimmy Hoffa.

[E]

No, no, it was a long.

[A]

That was truck. I believe.

[I]

I know. I'm saying you hit union figures.

[A]

Okay.

[E]

They got it done. That's negotiation. You need to study that.

[I]

Study. Study the past.

[A]

You need to dress same way too.

[C]

Yep.

[A]

They shut it all down.

[E]

Whole east coast, whole co country to go nuclear. Nothing's going.

[A]

He was at that moment. We don't need that. Ball's in a good spot. We need to keep it going. Okay. We need ball to continue to thrive, but we need players to also benefit greatly from their hard work and their talent. You're the man for it, jc. We appreciate you. That's JC Treader. We'll take a break. We'll be back on the other side wrapping up all today's sports events. Thank you, JC.

[C]

Go Big Red.

[E]

Yeah. Jc.

[A]

Good luck, dude. Good luck. Luck. AJ could you imagine? No.

[D]

Never.

[I]

I cannot actually. I just try to deal with NFL players, let alone having to go back and talk to the. The owner's lawyers. Like. Yeah, it's good luck. Good luck. Jason. You. You are the guy, though. You do care, which is great.

[A]

What I. One locker room. Trying to figure out just one locker room on what's happening on Thursday night. Where are we going? Who's going where? How's the whole. Who's setting it up?

[E]

That's why you read all those books at Cornell.

[A]

That's right. You didn't cheat at all. That was before Chatgpt.

[G]

That's right.

[C]

Right.

[G]

The old fashioned way.

[E]

Books.

[A]

And that's what you're going to do at the negotiation table?

[G]

Hell yeah.

[A]

The old fashioned way. Get the job done right. Bang.

[E]

Let's have a beer.

[A]

See in 10 years. Respect. Good luck to you. We'll be back on the other side. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. You know what, Jason Casey. Yep.

[D]

Hell yeah.

[A]

Team on me. Anything to say to the group here?

[G]

Quarter zips on me. I'm bringing them, everybody. Pat's wearing it. He's guaranteed it.

[F]

I heard that.

[A]

As a.

[G]

As a locked in thing. We're gonna get sent out right away. So I want to hear it. NFLPA on three. Let's get it on. Let's get it on. On record. Right? 1, 2, 3.

[A]

See you on other side. Wow.

[G]

Let's get that clip. I need to.

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Store are the greatest. That's AJ Hawk, the toxic tables here at Boston Connor and that Ty Schmidt, one half of the Hammer Cowboys. AP Ton is here. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. AJ I don't know if you know this but obviously March Madness is happening and obviously the NBA playoffs are heating up. I mean it is yeah, certainly electrifying this salary caps going up 10 or $11 million. That's all you need to hear. Let alone all the other projections. Good for them. We got magical things happening all over the sports world but the NFL is cooking and we are still in the very much in the middle of drafting. We are still very much in the middle of who's going to make it in the NFL, who's not going to make it the NFL combine. Big deal. A lot of guys sit out of the combine. What do they want to work out at? Well, they want to work out at their pro days. Ladies and gentlemen, we are in pro day season. Yesterday officially kicked off pro day season and D Butt has a pro day showcase. What happened at these pro days you yesterday as a few schools were showcasing their talents to the NFL.

[D]

Yeah you mentioned pro day and it is a huge box to check. Like you said, the combine and combine is one thing but with these seasons a lot of times being longer, sometimes players recovering from injuries or whatever issues they may have, they just want to perform at the confines of their home facilities. They go and do this. The two biggest pro days yesterday were LSU and Miami. I'm going to start at LSU starting with the quarterback Nuss Meyer who coming into this season was projected to be One of the highest quarterbacks drafted. Didn't perform that well this season. Got banged up but he threw it around well. He showed some zip. He I think only three balls hit the ground. This was big for him just to show that he was fully healthy. So he threw the ball well. Lot of talent obviously up there lsu so it doesn't end with him at the quarterback position. Also Harold Perkins Jr. Oh yeah, he's

[A]

been around a long time.

[D]

He has been around a long time. Tony gave me a little more background on him as far as his freshman year. I think he popped up on the scene last couple years been kind of tough for him to find it. Been injured, kind of an undersized backer. But he ran a 4:3:8 so flew at a 10:4 broad jump, 35 inch vertical. So that's good for him. Once again he dealt with some injuries so this was great for him being healthy.

[A]

They also didn't know where to put him. Right Tom it was like should he rush the passer? Is he going to be an X? Because he could run a 4:3 but he could rush the passer. So I think think LSU when he was a freshman just kind of let him do that. Then he wanted to move him. It didn't work. It felt like he was always trying to find a home.

[F]

Yeah as a freshman he was first team osc that his breakout game was against Bama. He basically spied Bryce Young the entire game if I remember that correctly and had a great game against them. But then they like they could never figure. Then they had defense coordinator changes but they could never figure out where to put him. Whether it's be an edge rusher, whether it's going to be middle, whether it's going to be at Sam will. But at 61222 too. DBut said he is kind of tweener. So if an NFL team can figure out where they want to put him, he's an athletic freak. But that just they no one has been able to figure out what they want to do with him.

[A]

Are you putting them out there? D But 438 is outrageous. We had a teammate who was potentially thinking about safety, defensive end, hybrid. I'm not saying 6:1 is doing that but where would you put this type of athlete on the field? Somebody will figure it out is what we're guessing.

[D]

You hope a good coach will figure it out. And we're in kind of the age of the tweener. You know you want to guy who can cover, who can rush, who can do all the different things. So if he, he got it and I would assume where he's probably going to get drafted, he's going to have to make a name for himself on special teams first and foremost. I would assume when you have those type of dims you can probably be a core teamer Four, three, eight flying down the field. Obviously you're a great athlete and if he can find a way obviously I always start with you have any ability to put pressure on a passer that's going to help you in the then obviously covering Nick Emmanue was a guy who changed completely changed that Seattle defense. He's not, you know, at that level, I don't think. But who knows what he can be on the next level. And speaking of the next level, Mansour Delaine, who's their corner, who will be CB1 in this draft, he had to check a box which was his speed. You know, he didn't play slow but if he ran anything in the four fours he was going to be CB1 and he ran four threes, mid to high four three threes, which is a great, great time for him. His film is great. He's fluid, about 6 foot 190. He can press, he can play off great in man to man coverage which is extremely important in the NFL but also very good in zone. Rarely do you see a prospect that can come out and have the feel and the aggressiveness and the speed and the twitchiness to play manto man coverage and then also have it between the ears to be great in zone as well. So he checks all those boxes. I I think he will be the first cornerback off the board, probably somewhere in that top 10 range. A lot of people are putting him right now with New Orleans Saints. I think the Saints actually tweeted out his 40 yesterday, but he's a big time talent out there. Actually caught some balls lining up at receiver yesterday too. Caught some deep ones from Nuss. So he has the ball skills, he has the speed, he has the size and he also has the aggressiveness to play the position at a high level. So he'll be CB1.

[A]

Delane is the name. Delane is the name. 4, 3, 8 and then is everybody fast? AJ is every 4, 3, 8. 438 for Perkins. I remember Perkins freshman year and then I remember riding the wave of what positions he's supposed to play. 4, 3, 8. All across the board, everywhere. It's insane how fast football has become A.J. hawk. While being huge still.

[I]

Yeah, while being huge. That's the thing. Like the size of these guys that can run 4, 4, 4, 3 is what's crazy. And then when you couple that with like the. The fluidity and being able to turn your hips and go and put your foot in the ground and change direction, that's I think what se of these people.

[A]

Yeah. And he actually hits that stole a

[C]

couple seconds because that could have been

[A]

a 4, 3, 9. It could have been maybe 4, 4. But instead he hit the. How you doing?

[C]

Got to.

[A]

Yeah, you got to do that. I mean, these dudes. Special talent, man. And Delane, this is the first time I'm hearing that he CB1. I know Jeremiah Smith had him on his. Mel Kuiper's got him on a big board. Him going top 10 would be insane. Now we know that the guy can float at 4, 3, 8 for him is pro day. There was another massive pro day that happened yesterday.

[C]

Iowa, I was going to say. I. You. You mentioned lsu. You mentioned Miami. I believe Iowa had the most pro bowlers in the NFL last year. So it's crazy.

[A]

Really? Really? Yeah. Maybe a couple future pro bowlers were working out over there now maybe, but

[C]

I get it, you know, not. Although there could be a couple D backs, you know, that might. I might. I might get that taped. You. I don't. I don't think they really posted anything. Couple just pictures. You know, that's kind of Iowa just gritty, you know, don't have a.

[A]

We don't.

[C]

We don't need the video. You got every, you know, every team had, you know, front office personnel there. But. But yeah, mostly, you know, lineman type stuff. So I could see why debut maybe was.

[A]

Okay, well, shout out to Iowa because we saw some lineman happening down in South Florida yesterday. We got some problems.

[D]

Absolutely. The national champ, the runner ups, you know, obviously made it to the national championship down there. University of Miami. A lot of people put on the show, but it starts up front with the talent. Ruben Bane Jr. Akeem messenger and Blay as well. But Bane Jr. And Mestador probably both be first round picks. I think Bane will go first. He has all the twitchiness, he has explosiveness. A lot of talks were about how his arms measure at the combine, which we saw him play. We. A lot of us saw him warm up as well with Jason Taylor coaching him up pregame. The way he bends around edges, the way he uses his hands, how violent he is on contact with you. So on those sled drills, those are the things that will make him be a top tier talent, I believe on the next level. So I Think he'll be somewhere in that top 15, top half of the first round, then Mesador, maybe in that second half of the first round. Those are two guys that were expected to perform well and expected to be first round is coming into that pro day. I think the biggest winner out of Miami was Keonta Scott, their slot defender. Now he can. He's projected to safety. He could be a slot corner. That's where I see him play. Playing. I. I didn't expect this time. I didn't expect this time. The first times we saw were like in the four twos. I believe it came out like the four in the mid four threes, which is still a great, great time. He had a good vertical as well, but watching him play, he can move. He's great in space. He's great overfield tackling. He's a great blitzer. And the best part, the best play. I think that from our whole run as college football players that we had a chance to call was against Ohio State actually, just to a look, been

[A]

able to do whatever he wanted all year.

[H]

I'll holler at you.

[A]

Pull away. KE

[D]

should have been a Thorp award winner.

[A]

Boom. Hits a Thorp Award. What a moment. Stop it. Big time Deontay Scott was the stadium. Up 13 zip in the cotton Bowl. Jim Thorpe Award should be winner. Jumpstart and cribs that thing. What about it? Dude, that was so much fun to watch that Miami team. Yeah, he was sick hitting the Thorpe Award. We should have known in real time, but it was on the other side of the.

[D]

Yeah, it was tough.

[A]

Hard to tell at the time, but he obviously is. Is everybody fast? Did anybody have a bad combine or a bad pro day?

[E]

One guy, but mostly interviews. Makai Lemon, I believe a lot of people said, didn't have a great day, but hey. But hey, I would love him at 31 in New England.

[I]

Of course.

[A]

Of course. But it does feel like when it comes to on field stuff, everything we've seen from everybody, like the combine, everybody was fast. Faster than expected. Yeah. These pro days yesterday, they just started in my algo became, I mean, Bane, Mezador and Filet. Them hitting that sled. Yeah, the guy went last. Filet went last. It was like, that's a tough spot to be in after what the. That's a demolishing of the sled. Okay. Like, obviously you've seen the sled drill before. This is very standard operating procedure. But there's levels to this. The amount of. Of violence that was happening in those first two bl Sorry. The amount of violence in those first two, for him to have to follow that, I was like, not. This sucks for this guy. And then he follows suit, wrecks that aj. I mean they were. That was a violent operation.

[I]

Yeah. This is awesome watching these guys do this, but watching Reuben Bane dip and rip around those bags, I mean, I think that that's truly special what he can do. Like when you can couple the violence with this. Like, look how tight he is in the bag. It's just. How do you put. Block him for real? Like, how do. If you're a 6 foot 7 tackle, how do you block this guy?

[A]

I don't.

[F]

To AJ's point, they're coming out with. I've seen like graphs with the Pythagorean theorem.

[D]

Oh yeah.

[F]

On his shin angle, like his bend and they say his shin angle is, is by far the best that they've ever seen. Like the way that he can bend and move. And you, and you talk about like his arms, that doesn't ever show up like on the field. Like there's guys with short arms where, where they get eaten up by tackles. That, that doesn't happen.

[D]

Yeah, we saw, we saw him like, we saw him not only Bane, but Messador as well. But Bane, his explosiveness, how he uses his hands. And AJ talked about the bend. We played with two I think should be hall of Fame passwords. Friend. He's already in. Robert Mathis should be in soon. But those, they're Ben. Their get off and they're Ben, I feel like are the most important things when you talk about pass rushes on the next level. Because we know the bookend tackles, usually they're big guys who. So it's tough for them to get low and that you see how they cheat. To get off sometimes is to protect them. So if you have a guy, guys that can get off and get to the quarterback, that's, that's a game changer for any pro, any program.

[E]

And we talk about practice all the time. Like they're going up against the number one rated tackle this year, right in Moyaga, who might play guard. Who knows? But still. And then the biggest guy I think I've ever seen on a football field, Markel Bell, was it their, their other tackle, he was like 6, 9, 9, 380 pounds. And that's what they're going up against, you know, in practice every single day. So they were both ridiculous.

[A]

Great names too. Mezador and Bane, you know, and then Blaze coming through that, that Miami team was fun to Watch. They were thumping folks.

[E]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Like that was. They. They enjoyed them on. They enjoyed hitting people. I mean, that was very evident. I think that's going to be a hurricane staple. And they're going to have a lot of guys in the NFL going forward out of Crystal Ball's operation. They were fun to watch.

[C]

Yeah. And we were talking with Dano about, you know, like, showing up in the biggest moments. Like we. We watched every single one of their games. Like he. They didn't win the national championship, but he was a game wrecker in every single one of those playoff games.

[A]

And going into Texas A M. Remember their left tackle.

[C]

Yeah. Talking star.

[A]

And then we obviously made it a thing. You know, how could you not? Because we. We have this whole thing and then we're watching that Texas A and M game and it's like, hey, Bane's name. Name. Starting to show up a lot around here. And then his ass is full on. Excuse me. And it's like, well, that's one game. Is he going to be able to continue? Then the next one. We got the arm cross Bil. I was born. Yes. Yeah. Took over. Just absolutely took over. And then Mezador on the other side, it was like, geez, this exactly how you want to build a team, especially if you're Mario Crystal Ball. Good luck to them. Their pro day showcase was certainly one I enjoy. Great work, D. We didn't have any opportunity. Offensive line stuff. Ty.

[C]

I'll be honest. I went through and I scoured everything. I don't know if there was one video posted. I think everyone kind of like, yeah, proto is important and we know we're going to get some guys, you know, drafted this year. Probably several kind of. All eyes are on on Thursday right now when it comes to Iowa.

[A]

So what's going on Thursday?

[C]

The boys are playing in the Sweet 16 against a hated rival. You know, unbelievable that they're playing Nebraska. So everyone's focus is kind of of.

[A]

I know Nebraska has a very, very, very passionate fan in Will Compton.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

And we obviously are tight with the Nebraska community because we had coach rule on a program this past year and we.

[D]

That or hate that. Who The Nebraska community.

[A]

Did they like that he was on our show?

[D]

Yeah.

[C]

Probably for like the first four weeks when it was like, hey, they're going to the College Football Playoff. And then like, what, you know, week 10, when it was kind of like what I said and what everyone said was going to happen, like, they'll be six and six and then they'll be like, why the fuck is this guy going on this show every single week when we're routinely losing games we shouldn't be losing?

[A]

Yeah, but he was really good on the show. He appreciated. I love Coach Rule's house.

[I]

He made a commitment.

[A]

I love Coach Rule Rules house. Raiola will wear number eight at Oregon. He's been given permission from Marcus Mariota, who has an entire haul of success and also Dylan Gabriel. So he can certainly wear the eight in his entirety.

[E]

How would they do that? I know.

[D]

The fuck are we doing? Leonard just gave you the game. Playing the book.

[A]

He's not even starting. Coach. Oh, no, he's a backup. Don't do that. I just saw him get into a burger debate. Let's go back to the. Let's go back to the. The pro days. We got a lot of them this week. We'll certainly cover them. Debut will have his showcase as they go through yesterday. Toledo also missed that one.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

They got the quarterback.

[F]

They got one of the best safeties in the draft as well.

[E]

Yeah, they did the combine big. Took it easy yesterday.

[A]

Okay, sounds good to today. Auburn, Notre Dame and Texas. That'll be gigantic. What will Jeremiah love do? What will Jeremiah love do? Yukons today.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

I know Jordan Reed said that's.

[D]

That's up. Jordan.

[A]

Is there anybody at it?

[D]

Scholar Bill Balintic call finalist.

[C]

Well, there's a chance Joey Fanono is going to go in the first round

[A]

too, as well, right? He was.

[C]

Nobody's talking about.

[A]

He's spinning it at the combine.

[E]

That's how you say his name.

[A]

Wednesday, Alabama, Arizona, Ohio State, Texas A and M. AJ I know the Ohio State pro day is always a big to do and I'm being serious with that. It is always a big deal. Every NFL team has been at Ohio State's pro day for the last 100 years, basically. Are you guys excited? Who should be stealing the show there? Is there any conversations coming out of what Buckeye pro day will look like?

[I]

I mean. Yeah, well, we will see. I don't know how much the linebackers will do the tandem with Arvell Reese and Sonny Styles, but I mean, I'm sure General Bob will be boots on the ground. He could. He could give us a recap of whatever is happening.

[A]

We'll certainly give a call to the general Bob Carpenter and have him give us a little bit of a.

[I]

He might run. He might set it. He might honestly show up in tights and run.

[B]

We should.

[A]

Which we should. Yeah. Should think about. And also. Yeah. All white Spanx. We Want the entirety. And we hope the hair is as fantastic as it used to be at this time. Sonny Styles a lot of conversation about him and a lot of conversation and intrigue about where he's going to go. Ohio State feels like it's back to linebacker you again. Like it was when A.J. hawk was back.

[E]

That's right. Yeah.

[F]

It's funny because, you know, off ball linebacker. Linebackers are normally not a position that gets drafted super high. Also running back. So him and Jeremiah love. Interesting to see where they go. But the one guy for the Ohio State pro day who did not go at the combine was Caleb Downs. So everyone's gonna be very, very interested to see what he does at the pro day because he was the only Ohio State guy not to do anything at the. At the combine.

[A]

Now, Marvin Harrison Jr. Didn't run at the combine or at pro day. Yep. So it has been Ohio State precedent before that. Just not. Not running. Okay. Watch the film. You think I'm a football player or not? You can figure that out. We assume Caleb will run. Do we know AJ If Caleb's running or what he's doing?

[I]

I don't know. I have not. I have not checked with anybody if he is going to run. I. I would think he's going to run, but either way, I don't know. Can he affect. If he. Yeah, if he goes out there and runs a 4 6, it can affect. Affect his draft stock. But why would he run if he's going to be a top 10 pick already?

[A]

Yeah. What I'm thinking is why would I if I'm Kayla?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think I'm letting people watch film, man. Yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm not training for track. Sorry. Now I'll do the little other stuff. You want me to backpedal? Do the triumph?

[E]

Yeah, a couple of those.

[A]

I could do a couple of those. I'll go hop on a ball so I can get some photos at Ohio State pro day in the building. That's at least pretty cool. It's a good little history. I don't know if we need to see unless he comes out. What does he run fourth two.

[E]

Yeah, that be sweet.

[A]

What if Caleb comes out, runs a 4 2. What is brother run? Oh, 43 something probably, I assume, right? Yeah. That's so fast, dude.

[E]

I mean, the Styles brothers just fly.

[D]

You did everything what you.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I've got the same update. Yeah. Bruce just told me that multiple updates have been sent to the Thunderdome. There's a big break of news coming at 3 o'. Clock. Really out of the Buffalo Bill social media. Really huge. Not when it comes to the team,

[E]

but they're not that huge.

[C]

You're talking about the Buffalos failing of the Buffaloes.

[A]

I don't know. But we've gotten multiple and we're going to be disappointed. No, I don't know.

[C]

I'm a.

[E]

That's up to you.

[I]

Are they real? Are they renderings or the real deal?

[E]

Have.

[A]

Did they get sent into the group?

[E]

Yeah, they did.

[A]

You've seen the photos?

[E]

Yep.

[A]

Just you guys hadn't seen. I got to get out. Three o'.

[D]

Clock.

[A]

The Buffalo Bill social media will be debuting. I believe. I don't know if how much we're supposed to say it's three minutes. Let's just pop them up right now.

[E]

We got no.

[A]

We like like the Buffalo Bill social media. I'm a fan. We like the Buffalo Bill social media team. I will say feels like this is good news for the people that were potentially attacking what those Bison would look like.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Seems like they understood the assignment whenever they're piecing these fuckers together from what I just saw here. Now we shall wait three minutes until they break the news on their social media. Aj, I don't know if you've seen in the group text or not yet.

[I]

I did just pop it up.

[A]

Yeah. I don't know.

[I]

Can we get something a little more realistic? Possibly.

[C]

AJ looks like a young Chris Collinsworth in this. I. I don't like.

[A]

I mean I didn't see that photos of us.

[I]

Wait, let me see. No, wait.

[E]

I'm in there.

[C]

I think that was whoever did this in here.

[F]

Yeah.

[C]

Go back to the drawing board. Connor looks fat. His chin is chin and neck is huge. I don't know. I don't know what I look like.

[A]

Connor's having a little bit of an

[C]

Irish do yourself favor. I think we know who the cold culprit is.

[F]

Yeah, it's the same.

[C]

It's the same guy who. It's the same face on making D

[E]

butt look like that racist fatso we got.

[A]

Wow. That's not fair. That is not the case. He tries his best.

[F]

Oh, he had a phone saying the Bills made that one.

[E]

No way. Oh, no.

[A]

All right. We. We got a lot of inside jokes going on right now. We apologize for anybody that is currently watching. Just know that the Bills have reached out to us to make sure that we know that there is an update coming to the Bison. What has happened to the photos since they've got into this Thunderdome two minutes ago. Okay? All this fuckery that is happening currently has happened within the last 120 seconds. That is the problem with this place. Okay? That is the problem with this place. You hear me? My bad, everybody. That can't be happening in here. Aj, what'd you call him?

[D]

What do you call him?

[A]

Con man.

[E]

You know what? I take it back.

[J]

Back.

[E]

Okay.

[A]

I take it back. I said some things a couple moments

[E]

ago and I regret it. And I. And I rescind those statements.

[A]

Yeah. So this was.

[D]

We look good.

[A]

Yeah, I think you guys do.

[C]

Zoom in.

[E]

I mean that's the.

[I]

Pop it up. Just pop it up.

[A]

No, we can't. We got a minute and ten seconds.

[E]

That's not you D. But Ty, you look.

[F]

So maybe Bone was telling the truth all those months ago. And where he got that.

[A]

That face from AJ looks good. Zoom in on. No, that looks different than the one

[I]

that are the Bison. Fully intact. Do we know.

[F]

What do you mean?

[A]

Yeah, I see them. I don't think anybody's taking off any pieces of them. Like one minute out here since the. The big reveal from.

[I]

What a huge reveal it's going to be. People are on the edge of their seats.

[A]

I am actually kind of. I have not seen these photos that are popping up right now that you all have seen in our group. I only saw the text message with. With like it was in a bundle. So I. Then I just saw the big.

[E]

The first one.

[A]

Yeah, I just saw the big one. So I. Hey, I was kind of.

[D]

Oh, at night.

[E]

Yeah, that. That's exactly that. The night.

[J]

Yeah.

[F]

I think they're nice.

[A]

27 seconds. All eyes on a Buffalo Bill social media. Will you please pull up a Buffalo Bill social media account please, so we can watch tweak. 20 seconds. 25 seconds. That is sweet. I think so. Right?

[C]

Yeah. The one at. At night that's lit up is very cool.

[A]

I think it's non ass.

[F]

The Happy birthday.

[I]

What are the real ones going to look like though?

[A]

Come on. They need to update.

[F]

What do you mean? Like that?

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

This is what it's going to be.

[E]

They're rendering.

[A]

Come on.

[E]

And have the stadium burning down in their rendering all day.

[A]

I've been waiting all day for bison update. Is that a pin tweet there?

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I gotta get down there. They better not be lying to us about it. It's not that.

[F]

Oh, Buffalo is one minute behind the rest of us.

[A]

That's why their wings are so good.

[E]

Buffalo time.

[A]

I had a dessert the other day. Took 20 minutes. They twin lit.

[G]

Yep. It's hot.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Let's find it. Ladies and gentlemen, we have some breaking news out of western New York York. There will be massive bison outside the brand new High Mark stadium. And they will be so big that it will not embarrass the entire franchise with little baby ass bison. These bison are big. These bison are strong. These bison are ready to go on a run. Maybe to the super bowl for Buffalo.

[C]

I'll be be honest.

[A]

I like the size of the bison. I like the. I. I was kind of shocked by like the mirror idea.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

But then you take it to the night one. If they've posted that. Have they posted the night one? So here's breaking news of what it looks like at night from what we have received here. Yeah. Huh. Yeah.

[I]

Z.

[F]

Just sending their dims. They're big.

[A]

Yeah. I'm thinking that's the right size bison if I'm a Buffalo Bill. Yeah.

[J]

Wow.

[A]

That's what we were worried they were gonna get some Mickey Moss bison. Weren't we? AJ Thought they're gonna mail it in cute little photo for the little children of Bill's mafia to come walking over this bison and this thing's there. Bison are strong, powerful, historic piece of the United States of America. And the Buffalo Bills, they did it. AJ I'm happy with what we're seeing here from AI before we're actually seeing what it actually looks like.

[I]

Yeah. I hope that they can. You know, the real thing looks as good as this looks right now. But it looks like we're going to have to implant smoke machines. What in their noses to have this. Their breath show like this. There's a lot of moving parts here. Huh?

[A]

You don't think that's a part of it? You don't think the lights that move.

[I]

Does your head lift up and down? Do you know if they move at all?

[D]

That platform right there.

[E]

Spin it.

[A]

They run in a circle.

[I]

Yeah.

[D]

Sometimes that change they better raise.

[A]

Nobody circles the wagons. That's what I'm saying the whole time. Chris Burman saying as that big fucker's lumber. And. And the little baby one there is good for a photo. You know AJ I think you'll probably be able to hop up on it on a little baby. No, he won't.

[F]

I think I got the dims right here.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

The bull is 27ft tall and 23000 ponds.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, I like it.

[F]

The cow is 22ft tall and 23ft long. And then the. The calf representing the next generation of BILSM mafia is 12ft tall and 13ft.

[A]

Yeah, we like that. Okay. We were worried about the chest being too close to the ground. We were worried about, you know, what would it look like in the daytime as well? Is there going to be a time where we maybe will get on top of that thing? Will we be able there? Look at me on top of that thing. Wow.

[I]

Whoa.

[A]

Is that the size? Because I look pretty big actually up there.

[E]

They better raise that fence.

[I]

You gotta do a show from up there.

[F]

Oh, I missed the part. At night. The statues will come to life with five programmable lighting systems. The bull and cow have been uniquely designed to emit smoke through their nostrils, evoking the image of breath in western New York winter.

[A]

Yeah, they fucking nailed it. Yeah, I'd say. Yeah. Okay. Was it not worth the wait, Boys, Color me impressed.

[F]

I'm about to win the Super Bowl. That's all I need.

[E]

Fantastic work. They need to raise.

[I]

And just whoever's putting these together, please make it look like this. That's going to be tough to take that rendering and make it look that similar to this. Right?

[A]

Well, they're just going to 3D print.

[C]

What are you a sculptor?

[I]

You think they're.

[C]

Do you know.

[I]

You better. You better find a good one.

[A]

Okay, we got a sculptor. Don't you worry about a sculptor, Kapad.

[I]

I've seen some of those.

[E]

Yeah, with the drumsticks.

[A]

Didn't even think about s. On top of that metal.

[E]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

For sure. Ting smoke comes out.

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[A]

So many opportunities. It was worth the wait. I'm happy we did that.

[C]

I agree.

[G]

That was awesome.

[A]

Congrats to the Buffalo Bills. Getting right.

[E]

Good job, Buffalo.

[A]

I'll tell you what. Ghoul. Ghoul is up there doing it swinging

[E]

a hot bat big time.

[A]

How's Penn State hockey?

[F]

They made it to the tournament, but I think they might loss.

[E]

I. I don't know.

[A]

Attorney hasn't started.

[B]

Sorry.

[F]

The women's team lost a heartbreaker was what I saw. But yes, they're. I believe they have for the first time. They made the Frozen. Whatever.

[A]

Yeah, he's gonna be happy about that. And the wrestling win the fifth straight national championship. The hockey team has made it to the Frozen Four. Obviously the Super Duper Hockey Tournament for college hockey.

[E]

NCAA Tournament 16 actually. Michigan State and Yukon play on Friday.

[D]

Yep.

[E]

And then their hockey teams play on Thursday.

[A]

Okay, let's go. Let's go.

[E]

Kind of sweet.

[A]

Let's go, boys. Who's going to win this? Penn State? Michigan. Michigan State, Western Michigan. All one Seeds there, if you notice that. And then North Dakota, also a one seed. So Western. Western Michigan put a million in. Right. Didn't they?

[F]

Or.

[A]

Sorry, 20 million or something. They put a bunch of money in and they. They were the ones that won it last year, if you remember.

[C]

Isn't Vegas.

[F]

That's like stupid.

[A]

They got good ice out there.

[C]

They do.

[E]

First time in a while. Minnesota's not in it, by the way.

[A]

Wow. Rowing the boat on Minnesota out of there.

[E]

Bc, bu. Kind of a weird different year for the journeyman schools.

[A]

I appreciate and respect the Western Michigan commitment to hockey. It's awesome. Like, it's a lot of, like, it's in a. A massive amount of money directly to hockey. Right? Like 50 million or something. Yeah. All directly to hockey. And then a lot of people were saying that, like a team like Minnesota. Minnesota should poach their coach. But they're paying him so much money. He's not going to leave Western Michigan. Western Michigan just becomes an immediate powerhouse, while Michigan is also the home to US Hockey and everything like that. Yep. It feels like whoever did the investment is like, hey, we're gonna. We're gonna own this.

[I]

Yeah.

[A]

And you actually can. It seems like in sports, in college sports these days, it's great to have a good alumni.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Pegula with Penn State, obviously.

[E]

McKenna.

[A]

Buffalo Bills gets McKenna. Yeah. Number one overall. Overall pick. He's at Penn State. He was supposed to go somewhere else. He's able to do it. Some of these sports, you know, basketball, I guess it's kind of happening as well. You can get some money and get some funds. You can get a team. You get a program. You can get inspiration.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

To change everything for the future.

[C]

There's not a whole lot of places currently where as a hockey player, you could go somewhere and be the big swinging dick on campus.

[A]

Well, Western Michigan for sure.

[C]

That's definitely like. Like those. Those guys are the toast of the town there.

[A]

Penn State maybe be right.

[C]

Not with wrestling and, you know, wrestlers.

[A]

Why think about the cauliflower. You're walking around Happy Valley. Oh, my God. No, sir.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Jesus. Please.

[I]

No, sir.

[F]

Why is it in Vegas?

[A]

Come on, man. Good to see you, dude. We're having fun here. Please. We're all in this together, right?

[D]

Vegas.

[C]

Hockey time.

[F]

Vegas is a hockey town.

[A]

They should be in Pittsburgh.

[I]

Great barn, that.

[C]

It is a tough barn to play.

[D]

Playing.

[A]

Especially whenever you're on the stick.

[C]

Exactly, exactly.

[F]

You think that nights they win that game?

[A]

I don't remember either. You won that game. They played Oilers Yeah, they won. They won.

[J]

Yeah.

[C]

Oh, yeah, that's right. I'm undefeated.

[F]

Oh, yeah, you win the locker room to celebrate the boys.

[A]

Yeah, you're right. You're right. Good point. Shout out to Golden Knights. Are they in it this year?

[C]

Yeah, they. They go to overtime damn near every game. So late Hide. Yeah, I mean, we're talking pucks, you know, being picked up at 2am I.

[A]

I just can't do it.

[H]

I'll.

[C]

I'll tune back in when. When the playoffs get here, but, boy,

[A]

every game over time, they go to

[C]

a lot of overtime games. A lot.

[H]

They're on a good side of the playoffs, though, to go on a run in the Western Conference.

[C]

Exactly.

[E]

Stoner coming off ir.

[A]

Huge congratulations to the Wisconsin Badgers women's hockey team. They won the national championship, and they have four members of their team that won Olympic gold and now an NCAA championship in 31 days. Congratulations. They beat Ohio State in the national championship. Wow.

[G]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah. The Buckeyes gave it a go. Gave it a go. But the Badger said, I don't think so. You know, and that. That's kind of how it goes. Whenever you're playing Wisconsin women's hockey, they're going to beat you. And not only going to beat you, they're going to celebrate their Olympic gold in your face as well. Hey, we just did this for America. Now we're doing it for the Badgers. Have a good one. They might be. They run campus toasted town. Yeah. I mean, they're on a D. So Foxy just said Wisconsin women's hockey dynasty. Yeah, I believe they are on a dynasty right now. They've won a lot of championships in the last couple years. How's their football team? Ass.

[C]

Yeah, football team.

[A]

How's the basketball team?

[C]

Yeah, they got beat this year, but they're consistently good.

[A]

Okay, so the women's hockey at Wisconsin is kind of the dynastic run for nine times. Well, they're coached by Mark Johnson of

[J]

the 1980 US Men's Olympic Gold medal, so that helps.

[A]

Holy, there he is. There he is. He looks better than ever, that guy. Do you believe in miracles? He's like, yeah, that's what we're doing here in Wisconsin every single day, and I respect that. If MacKenzie's on skates and she's got dangles, which I assume she does, I assume she'll have some dangles. Maybe she's playing for Wisconsin someday, winning their 20th national champion. Yeah, I love that. More women's sports, better.

[D]

If you want her in a dynasty, you Put a basketball in the hand and you send her up to Storrs, Connecticut to play for Gino.

[A]

Nope.

[D]

All right.

[A]

He's. He's rude.

[D]

That's the dynasty.

[A]

No, what he is doing to people's careers is uncalled for. Supposed to do that. Sarah Kees coach cutting that promo. But what the am I supposed to do around here? Got run into this team every year.

[E]

Incredible.

[A]

Unbelievable. I love the promo from her. I appreciate, appreciated it. And if I'm Gino up there, you know I'm saying this is exactly why you come here to Yukon. Did you guys. You gave it up for a little bit, right though lsu.

[D]

Yeah. They've had their runs.

[E]

South Carolina Summit.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. But they're on a. I think on a 51 game win streak right now, which would probably be like their fifth or sixth longest win streak. He's already won 12. I think he's 12 and one in national championship championships. Lost one to Don Staley in the South Carolina Gamecocks. But Az Fudd, one of the best UConn Huskies when it all. When it's all said and done. She was hot last night obviously was a blowout. It was her last game on campus. Gampel Pavilion. She was. I think she had 34, 26 at the half which outscored Syracuse by herself 8 for 11 from behind the three point line. Father People's Princess. She's absolutely absolute dog. But I don't know. The odds were my -250 yesterday. I'm not sure what it is now,

[A]

but I think it was 328 at one point earlier that game against Syracuse yesterday and head coach Felicia Legette. Jack came out and said for us to continue to come to Connecticut year after year after year to me is like a personal attack. After being in this business for 37 years and have to come and be in this bracket every year is unacceptable. It is wrong. So I guess four times she's been eliminated here now three straight NCAA tournaments by this Yukon team. And to your point, D. But at this round gotta travel to Yukon to kind of do it as well.

[C]

I think.

[D]

30, 31 straight sweet 16s. Like 20 something straight final fours or something like that.

[A]

Yeah. So I mean UConn's been good since I've been in school.

[D]

Rebecca Lobo there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[E]

Two my war.

[A]

So that's. Diana Taurasi is just like an absolute dog, right? That's what we have learned. She. She will talk you. Oh yeah, she will, she will.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Big time bother you I think she knows our program. We're trying to stay on her. Always shout out Yukon legend Diana Taurasi. What a legend she is though, actual.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I watched that documentary about her playing overseas. Yeah. And then coming back and doing the whole thing. She feels like real legend in. In the whole game and I don't think she acts like it either. I think she just kind of is still like a. A dog in the entire.

[D]

Yeah, she. She. She'll let you know.

[A]

Yeah, I respect that.

[D]

Ultimate. Ultimate competitor. I think. What is she playing like four or five Olympics something.

[E]

Yeah. Remember Caitlin Clark?

[A]

Do you think you're. Do you think your guys coach should be forced to retire Gino? Yeah. What he's doing everybody look at. She's bummed up.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I mean that was sad. It's sucks. You know you do got to go to their house every year is. It's tough.

[E]

Get that.

[A]

You think genocide for a good ball. Maybe let some other people experience happiness in this entire thing. 51 straight wins.

[D]

It's a fair playing field. He's playing.

[A]

What happened? What you say Ton? You said something about maybe the seedings and rankings aren't always as accurate or something.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

Normally women's tournament you can lock those favorites in, but. Yeah, I would lost yesterday as a 2 seed.

[D]

We were watching it after the show.

[A]

Had a lot of opportunities.

[C]

Just, you know, sometimes the ball just doesn't.

[F]

Well, you know what happened. Nick took them as a minus 5,000 moneyline favorite. And if you do that in this office, why you do that when you keep preaching they're going to lose.

[G]

I'm.

[A]

I took all the favorites money line and they were put as part of

[J]

parlay and at that point they were

[A]

up nine and they just pissed that right away. I would like to let you know that I like the Iowa Hawkeye women's basketball team, especially their new coach. She's been very kind to us.

[C]

Oh yeah. She the goat.

[A]

Jan. Yep.

[C]

Jansen.

[A]

Jan Jansen. She's very kind. I saw. She was very animated. I appreciated her passion on the court. But watching the Iowa Hawkeyes women's basketball team lose was just. It was strange to me. I FaceTimed you immediately.

[C]

Yeah, I know.

[D]

Virginia get good.

[C]

You know what? It's funny you mentioned they've always been good. Alex Ohanian, I believe is his name. The guy who founded Reddit who's married to Serena Williams. He basically said in the offseason, hey, what do I need to do to make sure that we're a contender next year? So he Just donated a bunch of money for Virginia, and it was a double ot, you know, heartbreaker. Big country fouled out with about Ava Hyden. She fouled out with about four minutes left in the game, and she's just a perennial bucket getter. So after she went that chit chat, right, Had a little bit of a. A tough game down the stretch. Missed a lot of free throws, missed a couple shots, couple big ones, couple turnovers. But, hey, guess what? That's going to happen. You're going to get got sometimes.

[A]

The Virginia women's basketball team is getting what UVA calls a multi year. Your transformational gift from alum Alex Ohanian, who is married to Serena Williams and has a history of support and investment in women's athletics. He. He also one of the investors of tgo, I believe he's getting. He has a lot of. He has a lot of investments in the sports world. I think he is very, very grateful for sports. And if you're a university that has somebody like that who's a billionaire, you know, found something that's a good place to be.

[C]

Yes, it is.

[I]

Y.

[A]

So you're telling me I should just expect Virginia to beat Iowa? Hawkeye Women basketball every single year. Now, that's what I.

[C]

When Big Country's fouling out with four minutes left in ot. Yeah, you should expect that. I mean, our offense runs through her.

[A]

I don't know.

[C]

What do you want? What do you want me to do?

[F]

It's Big Country.

[C]

Exactly. We'll be back. We'll be back. But again, rinse, repeat. That's tough. I'm sorry. We got a game on Thursday. The biggest game of my life. So, again, I'm very proud of what they did this year two season. See, post, Caitlin Clark, everyone thought they were just going to kind of dissipate into dust. They did not. Did they choke on their home court at Carver? Sure they did. But once again, Thursday we're looking. All eyes are on Thursday.

[A]

They never ask you.

[C]

Exactly. Coach McCollum's boys will be ready to go.

[A]

How's Nebraska's team? Heard they're tough to beat. Huh?

[G]

They're good.

[C]

We split this year with them, so, you know, it's one of those things where, hey, we're going to roll the ball out to there.

[G]

We're gonna.

[C]

We're gonna play for 40 minutes and. And we're gonna let the chips fall where they may.

[A]

The Huskers are doing it right now. Okay. Men's basketball advances sweet 16. Got a big one. Wrestling. Placed third at the NCAA championships. How you doing?

[H]

Wow.

[A]

Softball 13 game winning streak right now in baseball, top 25 after winning a series against Michigan. Huskers are doing it.

[C]

That's impressive.

[A]

Let alone what Matt Rose about do with football. Figure it out.

[E]

Big year.

[F]

Huge year to volleyball. Dude did well.

[A]

Yeah.

[E]

Because they're selling stadium probably rules house.

[A]

It's moving up.

[F]

Yeah.

[E]

More sponsors this year.

[A]

HBO picked it up. You start to think to yourself, does I we even have a chance on Thursday. You know, that's what you said.

[C]

No, no one's thinking that. No one's thinking.

[E]

I mean, they got one of their best players from last year on Nebraska.

[A]

Now I have a corn stat from Foxy's pool. The good news for Iowa getting ahead of this now for the national media ahead of next week's Sweet 16 game. Says Scott Nelson, 2025 Corn. Iowa has 2.77 billion bushels. All time record for them. 210 bushels per acre, which is second all the time. Great year, Nebraska. 1.97 billion bushels. 198.3 bushels per acre. So less acreage, less bushels and less efficiency per acre for Nebraska whenever it comes to the corn game. And Nebraska's name is the Corn Huskers.

[C]

But you know, in Iowa, we, we have the best sweet corn in the country. We're feeding a lot of people with that. I'm guessing most of Nebraska corns just feed corn. They're giving that to pigs who are rolling around and, and, you know, cows and stuff like that. No one's eating that.

[A]

Corn, Nebraska corn.

[F]

That's correct.

[A]

I've heard good things about Nebraska corn. I bet you have Omaha steak with some Nebraska. Nebraska sweet corn.

[C]

I will not disparage Omaha steaks. Everyone knows how we feel about the caramel apple tartlets and, you know, the beef as a whole. But if we're talking sweet corn, Iowa's king brother always has been, always will be.

[A]

2.77 billion bushels.

[C]

Prosperous year.

[G]

Very good.

[C]

All things pointing up.

[F]

You see Illinois's going down to that same location. Houston. The Internet is very worse. Worried about the amount of bush lights Houston has on hand.

[A]

What's going on legit.

[C]

This is a story that's not being talked about enough. If every bar in the Houston area near the stadium doesn't have, and I'm talking kegs and kegs and kegs and kegs and kegs and kegs of Bush Light, there's going to be a massacre down there.

[A]

So Bush Light drinkers are infiltrating Houston is what you're saying?

[C]

Big time.

[A]

Okay, so Iowa is a Bush light drinking Quinton. So is Nebraska, and so is Illinois. And how about Houston?

[C]

At home, I assume they're gonna be drinking a lot of Lone Star.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh, I remember Matthew McConaughey did a little fun, little origami game.

[E]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

With the can of Lone Star.

[C]

Time is a flat circle.

[A]

I don't think I've ever had Lone Star. I assume it's pretty bush lighty.

[F]

I had a Halloween party once, and someone brought Lone Star.

[C]

That was me. Yeah. Because I. I was planning on going as Russ Cole, but I didn't. And I was just like, you know what? It. I want to drink some.

[E]

It was good.

[C]

It was good. I don't think I've had it since then.

[A]

Is it Bush lightning? Is. Is it all kind of the same there? But what's your favorite kind of.

[D]

My favorite beer would probably be Corona.

[F]

Oh, Premiere.

[D]

Just.

[F]

Just original.

[D]

I don't like the Premiere. Corona Dosis.

[A]

What's that thing, that Corona you can put in there? It tastes like Fruity Pebbles. To shot something.

[C]

Oh, wow. Bacardi Lamone, maybe.

[A]

Maybe you put a shot in there, it all tastes like Fruity Pebbles. It's. It's a good tropical. I mean, obviously you live tropical life. You're from South Florida. But if I am in a warm climate, and I remember that, that exists my day, infinitely better. It becomes like a really good day. So I just got to remember it, though.

[D]

Yeah. I started drinking beers late, and once I saw Tony Romo with that Corona.

[A]

Yeah, you're right. Snoop.

[F]

You ever have a Coronita?

[C]

Oh, man.

[A]

Man, you're going to.

[D]

Is that a small one or is that.

[A]

No, no, no, no.

[D]

Margarita.

[F]

It's a margarita, then you just put the Corona. In Pittsburgh, we have Yenzeritas. We do. With icy light mangoes.

[A]

Yeah. And it's really good. The manga's natural flavors. Pittsburgh. Me, you know, I don't really do the beer much anymore. I used to do too much beer. Natty was.

[F]

Yeah, there was.

[A]

Natty was the go to. Then Bud Light was the go to. Go to. It was way too much beer. Way too much beer. So I moved on from beer. I think if I. If you were. So what's happened? I'm walking in. They're forcing me to get a beer.

[E]

We only serve beers here, sir.

[A]

All the beers are available on draft. All of them?

[E]

Every single one.

[F]

They can't serve liquor, though.

[A]

What's that?

[F]

Have I had dinner, 6:00pm no, you've not.

[A]

No.

[E]

No dinner yet or.

[F]

Sorry, not eating yet.

[A]

Not eating yet.

[E]

6pm sun hasn't set yet either. Still nice out.

[A]

And where are we heading to dinner?

[E]

No, it's 65 degrees. You're there, you're sitting outside.

[F]

No, we're drinking.

[A]

Oh, I've done, I'm, I've done the day already. I'm doing a day.

[E]

Yeah, your day's over.

[A]

I'm having one, right?

[E]

Yeah, at six o'. Clock. Hey, let's have 15 beers for you worked hard.

[F]

You worked all hard all week yet

[A]

Friday happy hour at this stage right now that I'm in. It's one of them tall ones or is it a. Is it.

[E]

Sure, it can be a yard long.

[F]

They have a pint, they have 4 ounces. You can do whatever you want.

[E]

Yeah, it's ice cold.

[F]

Ice cold.

[I]

Frosted glass, frosty mug.

[H]

Yeah, you know what it is?

[J]

It is.

[A]

Yeah, you do if it's ice cold.

[H]

You know what it is?

[A]

I think right now I'm probably taking them one of them Ultras. Thank you, sir. I think I'm probably taking a Michelob Ultra and I'm probably, I'm probably making it disappear. It is a light beer of some sort. I had my Bud Light run and I stopped drinking it for a while cuz I, you know.

[C]

Got your taste buds changed, Dot?

[I]

Yeah, for sure.

[A]

It made me, I got, I got filled up. Too much beer started. I think I got allergic to it.

[D]

You get older, that's a big thing

[E]

with the first beer now they discovered is you're supposed to pour it out and let it foam up a bunch. You know, before it's like, oh, you

[A]

don't know how to pour it so

[F]

it doesn't happen in your stomach.

[E]

But if you pour it out and let the foam build in the cup and then it doesn't happen in your stomach, you're not burping the whole entire time just for your first beer.

[A]

I'll tell you, that has happened to me as I've gotten older is I just get like super, super full.

[E]

Yes.

[A]

Back in the day, used to be able to just roll 20, 30 of them potentially if, if that. If the night code for it had

[E]

to do for 10 seconds and you're cool.

[A]

But now, now it's like I get full, I get sick, I'm tired, I can't do it. I feel old, like I feel soft. Most. Whenever it comes to the beer consumption,

[E]

it's all about that first beer. It's actually changed my life as far as Beer drinking goes.

[A]

You pour out.

[E]

Not like. Not perfectly. And be like, oh, look at my pour. You pour it out. You get all that foam out in the glass, and then from there on out, you'll be fine.

[A]

Lot ahead, lot of head.

[E]

Sure. Yeah.

[A]

What's everybody want? Hey, you're saying what everybody needs is head? Hell yeah. You're saying when I'm drinking a beer, I need to make sure I get out the.

[D]

Hey.

[E]

All right.

[F]

I just want to know why the bush light tastes so different and so much better out of a camo can. An ice cold hunt camo can.

[A]

Yeah. But you know why?

[E]

Just like pbr, baby.

[A]

You know why?

[F]

Because of the camo.

[A]

Yeah. Because your eyes and nose are all together.

[F]

You're right. It is a. It is a full senses experience.

[A]

Yeah. Your soul. Your soul is in there feeling it through your eyeballs, and then it's kind of coming back in here, and then it's going down to your mouth and into your tongue and your nose. Because when you smell it, it's like, this one smells like it's gonna have a lot of. Of flavor.

[J]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, so that kind of is tied directly to it. But the camouflage shuts it all down.

[F]

Kind of cornered the market on camo cans.

[E]

Tell that to Keith Stone, baby.

[F]

Key light.

[A]

Yeah, I forgot about Keystone.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[F]

That's just bottom of the barrel Coors lights.

[A]

My dad said, rest in peace, high life. Wendle, my dude. I got to drink some beers or what?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Damn.

[A]

A while ago.

[E]

Yeah, a couple of years.

[A]

It was a while.

[F]

He was a beer truck man.

[A]

Yeah, he was fuck electric.

[F]

He was living the high life.

[A]

First time I met him, we're at an event. There was a car at the event. Just somebody brought a really nice car. There were some photos happening. He's hopped on the car, like, just hopped on the car for the photo, was laying on it, and then just gets up. I'm like, whose car is that? He goes, I don't know. And just. He's.

[C]

Yeah, that's Wendell.

[A]

I love this guy.

[E]

It's a high life.

[A]

This guy is the greatest. He was electrified. Only I was only been around him, I think, like four, maybe three, four times. Every time, he was the most electric. It was the only time I would drink high life just to show my respects to him at the time.

[F]

That's great.

[A]

I didn't really like the taste of.

[C]

Yeah, it was not great.

[A]

Yeah, I didn't really like that taste. Diesel. You drink that over in Ohio, right, A.J. and that what you guys Are drinking just Diesel only heavies.

[I]

No, Coors Light's big here, obviously. Coors Light. Silver Bullets, Ohio State Silver Bullets defense.

[A]

Oh, yes, I forgot about that.

[F]

The mountains are blue.

[A]

Ladies and gentlemen, huge day tomorrow. Huge day tomorrow.

[F]

We got.

[A]

Cody Rhodes will be live in studio. Oh, wow. First time speaking since Randy Orton snapped at the contract signing and then took a chair and brutalized K. Rose's head in between the chair and the stairs. You know, subject to change, obviously. We have no idea what's gonna happen in the next 24 hours. We are excited and thankful that he is allowing us to be the ones to, you know, hear his thoughts. If he hasn't him.

[E]

Yeah, hopefully he does.

[F]

I'm sure he does. Guys. Always got thoughts.

[A]

Well, you. What you want to talk about? Yeah, we do have some things we want to talk.

[C]

You might not even remember his name.

[A]

That's what I'm. We're wor. We don't know. We'll find out tomorrow.

[F]

Are we on the road?

[A]

I believe they are on the road to Wrestlemania. They're on the road to Wrestlemania.

[F]

And I'll tell you what, that's the next premium live event.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Vegas, baby. They got the Frozen Four happening out in Vegas.

[F]

Second year in a row I couldn't find a new location.

[E]

Well, I think they might have nailed it. Actually.

[A]

Vegas was a pretty good home. Yeah, Vegas was a pretty good home.

[D]

Your tournament kind of mailed it in on that one.

[A]

What's that?

[D]

The. The college basketball gimmick tournament.

[E]

It's the college basketball crown. The bum.

[D]

There we go.

[I]

May 12, I think it starts.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

Oh, okay. So that be after.

[A]

It's not my tournament. That's sports's tournament. The tournament, okay. That's where we find out who's the best. Is it West Virginia or is it the Toronto Blue Jays?

[E]

Whoever wins plays the natty champion.

[F]

Wait, are they getting the crown?

[A]

Yeah, the crown is ours.

[E]

Boy, they better beat Stanford.

[A]

Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Life is good. Let's remember KY R's coming here. It's a pretty big deal if you feels like.

[H]

Yeah.

[D]

Hope he's all right.

[A]

Me too. Last time I saw him, he was in between some chairs in a stair bleeding.

[F]

Yeah.

[A]

And then now I think Randy's wearing a shirt that just has blood. Rko everybody with blood.

[D]

Is that the worst beat down since the final? Boss got him outside his bus?

[J]

I don't know.

[E]

Bronson Reed's legs can't Jump off of that.

[C]

That's a good point. Cincin City street fight at Mania. We were there. That was brutal. Blood and guts.

[F]

Didn't that one guy get hurt, too?

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Be your friend.

[C]

Talk about Adam Copeland. He's not in the wwe, but he no breaker.

[F]

Kevin something.

[C]

Steen.

[A]

You're talking about Kevin Owens. Yes. There it is. He's on. Maybe he's on Road wrestlemania too. Be good to see him back. He's electrifying. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Aj, Anything to say to the team here?

[I]

No, I think I'm good today. You guys did great.

[A]

So do you. How'd you feel about the NFLPA convo with JC Troy? We feel good about the guy that's in the super Duper chair now.

[I]

Yeah, I mean, JC is a smart guy. He was a rookie. I was with him his rookie year in Green Bay. He used to be much bigger, obviously. His head, I feel like, was a lot bigger as well. He's. He was a strong dude, but, yeah, he was. We knew coming in he was a Cornell guy. Like, he was one of those, like, super smart guys. So, yeah, he's. He's an impression of guy.

[A]

I do appreciate that. We learned in real time that he went to Cornell to study labor relations. Yeah.

[I]

Yeah.

[A]

Should have known that. Probably going in, but, hey, journalism. Be a friend. Tell a friend something. I do hope him and Pablo get along and move forward.

[C]

Kind of throw the gauntlet down. So.

[A]

I did not expect that reaction. I should have done a little bit more research. It feels like I didn't know. Like, hey, Pablo's got courage. We go out there and do it. Yeah, he does. I'd like him to maybe get it right. Oh, there's real heat, right? That was a. I love.

[E]

Yeah. Just released the article. I didn't know that either. Reeves just basically laid out everything Pablo said and then everything that was wrong.

[A]

Yeah. So hopefully they'll come together, you know, for good players.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. It might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me, team on three. We'll be back tomorrow with another show. We. We hope you watch, and we hope you enjoy a nice cold beer night if you want to.

[I]

Yeah.

[A]

Not too many, obviously, but maybe drink your stuff.

[E]

Responsible five, six, beer.

[A]

Definitely do that. And remember, the crown is about to be ours. We're on top of it, aren't we, Tone?

[F]

We are always on top of it.

[A]

No, I've been losing a lot actually. It kind of been, you know.

[F]

Yeah, but you're staying on top of it. You're trying.

[A]

Yeah, but I've been away from it mostly. I need. I need a crown.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm doing whatever Hammer Don tells me to do.

[A]

Me too. I don't know if that's. We're gonna hammer Don to the crown. We're gonna hammer Hammer Don. Toyota crime. Yeah, I like that. That's what we're gonna do. All right. I'm pumped we're doing that. Hell yeah. Team on me. Yeah. Hammer down to the ground.

[F]

Undefeated last night. So. Yeah.

[A]

Where the was that?

[E]

Why don't you tell us?

[A]

We got it for now.

[F]

You guys have your own thoughts on everything. You just yell them out and people just take them. That's what happens.

[E]

Sony Styles Number 4 Overall pay 700 Tennessee 10 5800.

[A]

TGO. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We're in this thing together. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team Goodbye.

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