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PMS 2.0 1537 - Wrestlemania 42 Recap, Adam Schefter, PGA Tour CEO Brian Rolapp, Andrew Whitworth, Iman Shumpert, Dr. David Chao, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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A
Hello beautiful people and welcome to our humble the boat the Thunderdome on this overreaction Monday. Happy 420. This program begins now. Sports are the greatest and we had a fantastic weekend of playoff sports. The NBA kind of boring, but playoffs are happening. The race to the ultimate prize in basketball.
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B
Yes, that's right.
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A
Delario, Bryan, Larry o', Brien, that's what everybody's looking for. Started this weekend. And Conor will have a full breakdown. He watched every single moment of every single game, which we certainly appreciate. And then the NHL playoffs. They had a massive weekend started between two old giants deciding to just start in scrap as soon as the puck is dropped. Obviously you got Brady Tkachuk, usa, Team USA hero and leader in chirper on the bench. And then you got Jordan Stalzi on the other side. Hey boys, you want to start the playoffs of the fight? Yeah, fuck it, let's fucking do it. Yeah, okay. For the good of the game. And then the boys throw down in the middle of Carolina, Ottawa. Now a couple big shots were landed by both sides, but that's how the NHL playoffs kind of started. And their entirety of the weekend was electrifying. The NHL playoffs are something that if you watch, you're going to get captivated, you're going to get mesmerized. And although the Flyers want to go to big time, went over to Pittsburgh, playing once a game too. Tonight in Pittsburgh, by the way, you're going to see something that's special, you're going to fall in love and the games are going to be exhilarating. A lot of NHL games, great. A lot of NBA games, kind of a little bit of a bummer. But nonetheless we're in playoff season. We're thankful for that. We got games tonight in the playoffs we cannot wait to watch in the NHL and the NBA. The toxic tables here at Boston Connor and at Ty Schmidt, Con man, incredible weekend of playoff action out there.
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C
Yeah, it was the best. I mean you mentioned the NHL start to finish always delivers. The NBA, you know it's going to take a little bit just to get into it when it comes to competition wise. But they that's why this is fun. You get to kind of poop on all the dumpy teams unless you are Evan Fox, the number one seed Pistons lose to the Magic, which was an absolute joke. I think it's the first time ever or maybe the fourth time ever though. It was a wire to wire victory for an eighth seed over a number one seed. But no, it was fantastic. I mean can, can't really mention the weekend without mentioning that neck brace though. I, I, I know it was in peace. A little, a little tough for you as well.
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B
No kidding.
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A
Yeah, it was, it was, it was quite a Vegas weekend, you know. And the thing that I didn't think was possible was actually possible. Still don't know how. Ray, you weren't lost.
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B
Yeah.
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A
In doing so try to break my neck after my neck had already been busted by Jelly Roll's big ass. Smaller than he was. Big ass crashing through commentators desk just feet in front of Michael Cole and the boys who were forced to watch us. Jelly Roll and I have been the best friends. And then all of a sudden a couple weeks ago, he pops on the screen and starts, I'm a check. I'm a check. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. It's like jelly, what are we doing? I was just there for the Grand Ole Opry when he went in there. What are we talking about? He said, well, why'd you tell Randy to attack me? And then he said, you don't want this for everybody. Two motherfuckers breaks me in half. I bounce down there. My whole body just loses its senses. Cody Rhodes is clapping. Obviously everybody thinks he's a hero. He might be.
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B
He might be.
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A
This guy just might be. I don't know how he was able to get that win over Randy Orton, who's everything perfect with professional wrestling. Cody Rhodes someh hits the crossroads on Randy. You know why? Because Randy was a little bit distracted because Randy wanted to snap my neck in half. I'm already in a neck brace in the back. The doctor said, you need to keep stability in your neck. I said, well, I'm gonna go ref just in case something happens, you know, get ready. Charles Robinson goes down. Radio thanks me. Maybe he didn't know it was me.
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D
Yeah, maybe he could have been confused.
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C
Makes sense.
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A
Felt like he knew.
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E
I don't know. A lot of physicality in the man.
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A
Said everybody?
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C
Yeah.
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B
Yep.
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A
First phone call after we decided we had to save the business. I told him, kill everybody. That's what I told Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll is like. You told him to attack me? I said, no, I told him to kill everybody. I didn't know you were gonna be sitting out there. He did kill you. He killed me too. This is what happens when you dance with Viper, the apex predator. All I was trying to do is motivate and inspire. I was trying to tell him that for future generations of wrestling, we need you to go ahead and get the Strap, get the title, get to the top of the card so that everybody else can fall asleep. Baby ends with that. People are asking, I appreciate C2, C5. They got scans coming back tomorrow morning. Good luck. Jeez, could be anywhere in there. I'll tell you what, I've been wearing this thing since I got jelly rolled. Yeah, I got jelly rolled.
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B
Yeah, you did.
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D
That'll happen.
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A
I have awareness. Just keep it secure. They ran scans. I'll get it back tomorrow morning. I'm very grateful and hopeful that I'll be completely healthy. But there is some soreness, obviously. Got some cuts and bruises, too. Hand right here. Cut. Well, I think that's because the table exploded.
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B
Yeah, it could be okay.
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A
I got some shrapnel. Somehow got a splinter in my crotch. I think it's because of what happened to the table. I mean, there was a lot that happened out there. And, you know, I did want to let everybody know that I am okay. Just in case people were worried because I did seem lifeless there for a bit.
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C
We were.
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A
And I heard a couple people and I said, you know what? I got to let them. I am very okay, actually. This is how I feel. So I would like to let everybody know that although the mission was supposed to be Randy Orton saving the business, I think what happened instead was Cody Rhodes proved he is the one. And that guy had his eye. His eyeball.
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C
Oh, boy.
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A
Shut this guy's face. I think he got a right to. The right to the thing. Kind of cut him open. And then I think there was a punt that happened afterwards to go ahead and just go ahead and swallow the whole side of his face. Cody Rhodes was obviously very admirable. Randy Orton is still everything that I said he was. But good news is business doesn't need to be saved after all. And good for them. And for me. I finished my story. You did? Yeah, I came up in the Indies. Yeah, you did. Iwa, East Coast Warpig, War Pig. Yeah, I went through development. Nxt.
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B
Let's not forget Trampoline and your barn.
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A
I was a wrestler trained by Rip Rogers.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Same guy that trained everybody that's retiring kind of currently.
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D
Don't forget your trampoline.
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A
Trampoline out of OVW. Trampoline. Growing up, I was champion. Trampoline champion. Now that really go through it. Trampoline wrestling.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Indie wrestling.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Undefeated state title in normal wrestling. I didn't. I never. Normal wrestled. That's amateur wrestling. Never did that. You would be able to tell if I did, because I'd be looking for those cauliflower years. Immediately I went through developmental, went nxt, commentated and wrestled down there.
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D
Stupid Adam Cole.
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A
Bingo. Had that happen. Get WWE commentated. Lucky to do that. Did pre shows. Lucky to do that. Wrestled. Lucky to do that. Ref'd. Lucky to do that. Managed. Lucky to do that. It's been a hell of a run. Thank you, wrestling.
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C
Congrats.
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B
Thank you, wrestling. A hell of a run.
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A
Thank you. Wrestling did it all. It was an honor to be over there. And you know, maybe I took it too far and trying to motivate my friend saying the things that I was saying. Yeah. Sometimes when you're trying to motivate something that did feel good, I. I must add, the neck was hurting every step. Obviously.
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B
Great pot, great posture.
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A
Thank you. Yeah. I had to hold it together. And you know, a lot of people said, like, what if I did count to three? Would that account it? We'll never know. Yeah.
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D
You were saying, right?
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A
Yeah.
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C
You had the stripes on.
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A
We'll never know. We'll never know. And I thought Cody was so out. He had. It was a tough day. Yeah, it was a tough day.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Then obviously it's WrestleMania in Vegas. You kind of got to go experience that a little bit. Got to went and played some Black Dragons private tables and bopped over to Fontainebleau at LIV. And 50 Cent was there.
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D
Oh, sick.
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A
And I'll tell you what, it was an interesting time in life. Cause it was like I was back in the day, you know. Cause used to go to a lot of clubs. I was back in a club and I was listening to in duck club with 50 cent and I thought, wow, time's full circle. This is a good way to go out of wrestling. And you can find me in that club. And we had a great time in there.
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E
Oh yeah.
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A
Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler was here. That was a trip back in time in there.
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E
Oh, yeah.
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A
Big Mike taking care of us. We appreciate Big Mike, always. I'll tell you what, I learned a lot about Big Mike post the evening that we had. But Deebo, what a time in there. Saw cam' Ron in there.
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F
Yeah.
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A
Tony Yayo. What punk. Murda.
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E
What?
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50 obviously still got it, by the way. All of them Get Rich or die trying. No skips, all heaters. Best album of all time. Got a chance to experience it and it was a blast. I mean, we did a Vegas. We did a Vegas.
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E
It's been a while since. Since I've been in nightclub. Me too traditional.
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A
I inhaled some smoke at one point. I was like Different. Oh, there it was. That's 21 year old me right there.
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B
Actual smoke.
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A
Yeah. Fox machine. We're at another place.
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E
Vegas. It still got its fastball, though. But I'm glad, you know, you're an old school dude, you know, didn't let the little bump slow you down, man. We had a good time. Great night. Obviously rough night for you, Jelly Bubba, Randy, Cody. It was tough, man, but you powered through. We had a great night. Mania always brings it. Night two was awesome as well. I enjoyed it. It sucks. I saw Sam put the picture out.
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G
It's official.
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D
Yeah.
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E
You're out of the business.
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D
It's a good run.
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A
Said it, man.
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E
That does suck. But I will be watching. They might have got me back in.
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A
Yeah. I'll tell you, I was pre intrigued by a lot of the things that I saw as well, which was fascinating because couldn't tell them.
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E
Okay, yeah, good.
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B
Sure.
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A
And they don't want to talk to me either. I'll tell you what. I think it is a good time for me to leave the business. I think right now is probably a good time for me to head out. I think that's probably a good decision. And I'll tell you what, there was a couple people that said some rude things. OMAR guy runs SportsCenter account. His name's on the SportsCenter account. Even though SportsCenter is a show with a lot of people. OMAR runs the SportsCenter Instagram account. Yeah. That's who I was talking to right there. Had to do it. Omar Sleb. You know, he's sitting right there.
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D
That was awesome.
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A
Anybody could have got it. I mean, there was a fat cena on this side. I gave it to. There's a little kid, called him the ugliest kid in the building. That was rude to me. He came back, double middle fingers right to my face. There were some rude interactions out there. And I was probably the reason for him. I was saying a lot of things. Okay. I was just trying to motivate my guy, that's all. People were saying really mean stuff right there. They were telling me that I needed to maybe just be evicted from society. Gee.
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B
Oh, that's deficit.
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A
There was some of that. There was some of that. I'm gonna let everybody know there was some of that. But on that note, it was probably my fault because as I was trying to motivate Randy, all I wanted him to know is that everything else was shit and he was the king. It turns out the American nightmare still got the throne. Yeah, that guy's a Real deal, brother.
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C
Yes, he is that cut.
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D
Is there a warrant out for his arrest here though? Like if he ever comes back to
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Indy for what he did here. Yeah, I won't press any charges.
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D
Okay.
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A
That whole thing's done.
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G
Respect.
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B
Water under the bridge.
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A
All behind us.
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C
We might have.
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To the wrestling business, just kind of rear view mirror. And to the wrestling business, I'd like to say thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Well done.
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B
Take a bow.
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A
Let's get some sports. 1/2 of the Hammer Cowboys. AP Ton, what do we need to be looking at tonight? And what are the trends telling us about this particular playoffs that maybe will make me get a crown like I'm Cody Rhodes.
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D
So tonight we are back on the court and the ice for both sports. NBA has three games tonight. There is not a spread lower than six and a half points. I believe so.
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A
This league sucks.
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B
What are we doing, man?
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A
I was told when we get to the playoffs, good game.
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D
What we were told, we did warn everybody. Hey, the first round probably normally, sometimes, always sucks as well. This is kind of how the league goes. But over the weekend, to start the playoffs, the favorites were 6 and 2 straight up and 6 and 2 against the spread. Your losers, the Detroit Pistons and the Houston Rockets. Those were the two teams that didn't do what they were supposed to do. Obviously the KD injury threw a little bit of a wrench in there. That one was basically a pick a met tip. So really the Pistons really ones that screwed the pooch this weekend there and then when you go to the NHL side of things, what happened? The Pistons were really the only favorite to screw the pooch.
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H
The Pistons didn't show up pat. We got jumped right at the beginning of the game. The Magic King came out, got a lead, and anytime we wanted to come back, we made it close. We had no chance. And they hit a three. It was terrible.
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A
Okay, so the Detroit Pistons are the
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H
number one seed in the Eastern Conference and we lost to the Orlando Magic.
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What's the word people say, though? What's the word people say? It rhymes with laud. But it's not.
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H
Don't say it.
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A
I'm not saying it.
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H
It's too early to say it.
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A
Fraud. No, frauds. Frauds. Fraud. I forgot what the word was. That. Well, that is what people would say in this particular situation. It's one game.
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B
It's one game.
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A
Why is everybody burying a team for one game? And I'm only saying that strictly because we're about to get into the NHL and Tony's Going to break down what happened. So I would like to be able to utilize this excuse in about 35, 40 seconds or so whenever we get into the NHL conversation. But on that note, you guys were supposed to be the ones this year, like the actual. This was the year. And then all of a sudden Orlando, who was in a play in. In two playing games. Yeah, yeah. Paula Banker was getting run out of the building in Orlando. Now he's leading the team to beat the hell out of the number one seed. Is it? Are you guys done before even begins? And then I read a stat. 11 straight playoff losses.
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H
Yeah, that's a bad stat. People are saying that the Magic actually lost in the play on game playing game on purpose so they didn't have to play the Celtics so they could play us. I don't like that one bit. But I will say this. Cade Cunningham showed up 39 points. No one else on the team showed up. Tobias Harris had 17. Every other player had single digits. Jaylen Duran, he's like our all pro center. He needs to step it up here. And other than that, like anytime we had a little bit of momentum where we might come back, they would just hit a three and they out physical. Us Detroit teams cannot get out physical. So that was the story of the game.
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A
Okay, hey, number one seed will lose every once in a while. You guys will get back in there.
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H
We'll get back in there.
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A
I'm not out of a play.
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H
We're a young team. That's what happens.
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A
Oh, because normally one seed wouldn't be a young team. You know, normally they'd be pretty comfortable with the moment. Now you guys get in a big dance and all of a sudden your dancing shoes are disappearing.
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H
Amen.
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A
That's not good. Not good at all. I heard Kade is Kate playing Cade, 39 points. I love K, so you gotta stink as a team. Kate went for 39.
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H
Cade went for 39. Tobias 17. Everyone else, single digits. The other guys need to step up. Jalen Duran, our center, got out physicaled last night. That can't happen. He will bounce back. I trust these guys. I trust the coach. It'll be okay.
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A
I like the way you said out physical instead of what you wanted to say and what I think everybody else was saying. I don't like that. Because just remember that all these guys, okay, people need to remember this on the Internet and at WrestleMania. Maybe if they're sitting in the front row, all these guys could snatch you by your necks.
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D
Yeah, seriously.
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And lift you up like a movie and do one of these if they wanted to. Yep. We gotta remember that.
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C
But they're not here right now.
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A
No, they're not.
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And he's done.
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And people are saying that the Detroit Pistons are a bunch of fraud. I want to say it. You guys wanted to say it again. I'm not saying they wanted to say it. I didn't know what we were going
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to say, so I just.
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You yelled into the mic.
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C
You can say it.
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A
Okay. NHL playoffs obviously happened this weekend. Four and three, straight up were the favorites. Con man. I heard the NHL playoffs were electrifying while we were doing wrestling.
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C
Yeah, fantastic. You mentioned it. Kane Senators. It started with a throwdown fight. It was the first game to kick off the entire playoffs. And it was wonderful. Brady Tkachuk, Jordan Stahl, basically just throwing bombs. This is what hockey is all about. We talk about the moments that playoffs have. This is going to be one of them when we look back on it once this thing is said and done. Like, hey, yep, someone's hoisting the cup. How did this thing start? Boom. With fist flying. After this, it was pretty much a tame game. Simple, two nothing beat down. Logan Stankovin. Do the stanky leg. He scored the first goal and that was all she wrote in that one. The next game, unfortunately for you, was Flyers, Pens. Flyers, Pens. I mean, hey, it was a good game. It's a rivalry game. This thing's going seven no matter what. So I want to be too, too upset. But yeah, third period, one one game, and Flyers just kind of ran away. They scored two goals. Rusty actually put one in before it was all said and done for the Pens. But that one right there was kind of your game winner. Flyers march into Pittsburgh and you are unfortunately one game closer to possibly wearing a suit with that bet with the governor.
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A
Yeah, I saw a lot of. I saw a lot of people talking about stats about if you win first one of a seven game series, what's the like?
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D
Not this year.
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A
In the entire thing. Just look at the Flyers likeness to win the cup and then let's look at those stats and then let's look at Sidney Crosby stats in that entire tonight. Game two in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Sidney Crosby and the boys will attempt to get back into a series. You go 02 into Philly, don't want that. You're dead.
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D
That's not happening.
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E
If that happens, you're done.
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D
It's not happening.
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C
Hey, what team? Sydney Crosby on?
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A
Not the team that would ever go 02 into Philly.
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B
Big no.
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A
I hope not. It's pivotal away from Even thinking about that.
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H
Are people calling you guys?
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D
No.
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C
They're not wrong.
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A
No. You pig.
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H
That's what people are saying.
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A
Oh, let's get away from all of it. Let's. Let's go to the NFL. Please. Can we go to the NFL?
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C
Hell, yeah.
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A
Please. We go. And huge trade. Dexter Lawrence leaves the Giants and heads to the Cincinnati Bengals.
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B
What?
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A
Joining us now is a man who might tell us how the hell that all went down. Senior NFL Insider for ESPN. Adam Schefter, Shefty C2 through C. I'm getting the scans back in the morning. You can tweet it. You're welcome. Now, let's talk a little bit about the end of Dexter Lawrence. He's a member of the Cincinnati Bengals. I had no idea that the Bengals did this. I had no idea that they would trade the number 10 overall pick. I had no idea that they work an extension for $28 million. He'd be up. He's through 2028 with the Bengals. Now, with an outsider, how'd this come together? This is a gigantic move, I think, for the team in Cincy.
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I
Well, what I would say here, Pat, is that it had been brewing for a couple of weeks, and the Giants and Bengals have been talking really for the last week. And the Bengals were willing to offer the 10th overall pick in this draft. The Giants wanted more. They went back and forth, and I think it became apparent to the Giants that they weren't going to get more than the 10th overall pick. And ultimately, they felt like it was in their best interest to go ahead and make that deal. They pull the trigger on that deal on Saturday night. They get back the 10th overall pick. And this really, to me, is interesting on so many levels because now The Giants have two of the top 10 picks in this draft. The two New York teams have 25% of the top 16 picks in this draft. And the Giants here are going to be able to get two real difference makers for John Harbaugh in his first year as the head coach. From the Bengals standpoint, massive season ahead for Cincinnati, huge year for Joe Burrow. And the Bengals know that they have to win for Joe Burrow, and they have to win now. So they figure that the player that gives them the best chance to have the best season this upcoming season, a critical year, is not any player they could take attend, but rather Dexter Lawrence. And obviously, they've gone through the mocks to project who they might or might not get. It's not a deep draft at the defensive tackle position to begin with, and so the Bengals figure that this is their best way to use that pick and they make the trade. First time in franchise history that they've ever traded a top 10 pick for a player, which obviously is enormous.
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A
I love that shout out to Cincinnati. Trying to work on something that they have fundamental issue with, which is defense as well. Obviously, whenever they pay T and Jamar and they have Joey, everybody's like, yeah, we get it. You're going to be able to score points. Will you ever be able to win an NFL game? When it matters though, if you don't have a defense. Defense. They obviously make some moves interesting with Trey Hendrickson's situation over the last couple years. He's on the way out. Dexter Lawrence, obviously. Interior defensive lineman. Hembo center versus net. Bengals D tackles ranks since 2021 in sacks 41.5. That's 28th in the NFL. 53 tackles for loss. That's 29th. 249 pressures. That's 28th. That's all since Geno Atkins retired. So in the middle of that D line, they have had a lot of problems. And obviously Jonathan Allen comes in and also Sexy Dexy. They're trying to fix that thing immediately. And in the AFC north, if you got a good front, you can win. You have to have a good front to win. So I like that they're investing there. Congrats to them. Let's talk about a front. Trent Williams gets a two year, $50 million deal. Is that what I heard? Two year Hunter. What is the two year, $50 million extension? They were not going to let him out of the building, we would assume. And The San Francisco 49ers always having to make things happen for their players.
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I
Now this deal had been at the finish line for about two weeks now. And within the 49ers building, they thought every day was the day it was getting done. And today the agent obviously announced that it was done. But they'd been at this spot going over some language here for about two weeks. There was never a doubt that this deal wasn't getting done. The 49ers obviously have put a huge priority on Trent Williams. You see what he's accomplished. You see what the team has done this offseason in terms of adding Mike Evans and Christian Kirk and bringing back Drake Reedlaw and now obviously retaining Trem Williams on a two year deal that includes $37 million guaranteed. This was obviously a huge move ahead of the draft on Thursday night. The 49ers are sitting there in the first round. Later on, we'll See whether or not they stay there. They may not, but it's a situation where now, if you draft an offensive tackle, if you draft an offensive tackle, you don't have to rush them along. You've got Trent Williams. And the feeling in the organization had been, look, we want this guy. This deal is going to get done. And the agent announced that it was done this morning.
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A
Trent Williams, obviously a monster, fantastic football player, first ballot hall of Famer, we think. Yeah, we don't know what a first ballot hall of Famer looks like anymore for professional football, but we think he would definitely be a first ballot hall of Famer. If all the voters are doing their thing so fast that so nimble, so experienced. Now, can the Niners win a Super bowl out there? Can they do it? They've had to deal with all the issues of a team that has won the Super Bowl. All their star players go from not making all the money to making all the money. They've had to gone through different iterations. They obviously find their quarterback. They've had to pay the quarterback a lot of money. It's fascinating the kind of story this Niners team has been on. Now they need to win a Super Bowl. I'm excited to see if they can stay healthy and do that. Let's continue the trade conversation and business conversation of the NFL before we move to the draft. Go ahead, Con man.
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C
Yeah, Shefty. Big news out of you this morning. A.J. brown is now likely to be traded to New England. I know a lot of people thought that might happen then didn't think it would happen. But you putting this tweet out was huge news just for people to really believe it. Now what is kind of this status? Is this just something that, you know, both teams are in agreement. June 1st will come, he'll get traded. And what do you see kind of the compensation to be to Will it be a first round pick? Will it be, you know, a second and a third? What is kind of the next steps here for A.J. brown to be a New England Patriot?
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I
Well, there is no agreement on the deal right now, but I think that both sides expect that eventually, once they talk closer to the deadline, that they will be able to work out an agreement. New England wants him. Philly is open to trading him and I think in the end he will get traded. My guess is it'll involve a future one at some point in time. I don't know that it'll be 27 or 28. The two sides still have to figure that out and see where they wind up. But I think the Eagles had been looking for a first round pick, at least for AJ Brown, and I think they felt like they could get it and still feel like they can get it in the end. So my guess is that trade will include a first round pick in the end when the two sides wind up agreeing to whatever deal they came up with. There's not another team out there that I can see other than New England, where A.J. brown's going to wind up. And the news this week would be that they're not going to be doing this deal before or during the draft because obviously, as we've talked about, the cap ramifications are such that New England would have to take on too much Money to trade A.J. brown before June 1st. They're going to wait till June 1st.
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A
Hold on. Do I have Mandela effect here? Haven't we just post June 1st designated things a lot in the history of the NFL? Why does this one seem so like, hey, gotta wait till it's summer, like, legitimately. Why? Why? Because haven't we done this in the past where we've just said, hey, this is this, and we're doing it June 1st or June 2nd.
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I
That's. That's for a player being released. You can't designate a trade as a June 1 trade. And so there's a big difference there. And obviously, like, it'll involve picks, but I'm not expecting that trade clearly to involve picks in this draft. It's not like New England's going to be picking for Philadelphia. They don't have the agreement in place yet. So they'll come to an agreement at some point here right around June 1st, and at that point in time, AJ Brown will be allowed to go to New England. But it this, the rules of releasing a player don't work the same way that they do with trading a player.
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A
Got it. Okay. So thank you for the clarification there. And I like the fact that they're all just like, hey, we're late. Late May. Yeah, A.J. hang tight. Okay, we got to do this. You know where this entire thing is. We got to wait till May Draft, obviously. Gigantic. There's been some big conversations about things should be designated before the draft even begins, especially in the host city. Diggs has a question for you, Shefty.
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D
Yeah, I do. Shefty. Reports coming out today that the it looks like they're Steelers are not going to hear from Aaron Rodgers about whether he wants to play next year.
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A
What?
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D
Before the draft?
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A
Who said that?
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D
I believe I saw Palacero.
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B
Yeah.
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A
No Palacero, which is Schefter's Pier. We've been seeing you sharing each other's by the way guys, so.
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D
And you know, it felt like we were going to get an answer for the draft or at least that's what the rumors were and we're. They're talking every day and now Will Howard's gonna be QB1 during OTAs. What's the latest on Mr. Rogers?
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I
Well, it's exactly what we've talked about where they essentially said that they thought initially it would be about a 30 day window before they got an answer from Aaron Rodgers. That 30 window came and went. Then they were hoping that they would get an answer before free agency. That obviously came and went. Then they were hoping to get a answer before the draft and obviously that feels like now it's going to come and go without answer from Aaron Rodgers and obviously the question will linger out there.
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A
Deadlines though, is this just them publicly saying yeah, 30 day? Yeah, no like are they talking to Aaron? But like where do we know where the whole thing is? Like how is this become our expectation? Because we as people who have dealt with Aaron Rodgers. Okay, not as much as maybe some folks who are with them every single day if they're a team and everything like that, but we have obviously been. Does Aaron know like whenever you they come out and say hey, this is a 30 day thing. Was he informed of that or because there's a chance he's literally off the grid somewhere and has no idea that. Now I'm not saying that's the actuality, but I'm just saying this dude is not like the others, okay? This guy. And people are like no he's not. Blah blah blah. It's like there's a reason he's allowed to be the way he is though is because of how damn good he is at football and has been. You ask any player or any coach, they say Aaron Rodgers is that guy. Now on that note, does Aaron know the Steelers want him as quarterback? Has that.
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C
Like how is he looking at a contract?
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A
Yeah. How much do we know? Like what do we know about that entire stuff? Shefty, do you know anything?
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I
Yeah, here's what I do know. I know that some people had suggested that well maybe it's not done because money is an issue. And I just was told that money is not an issue here. The contract's not the hold up. It's just Aaron taking time contract and doing what he does and, and operating on his own time schedule, whatever that is when he feels like he's ready to give an answer for whatever reason. You know, I think there's. There's probably like again, I think it's always dangerous to speak for him. I don't want to do that. But this is going to linger for a little bit. It seems like.
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A
Okay, so contract you said there. So that's already the business. What's that?
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I
Contract's not an issue.
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A
So the business has already been figured out between the Steelers and Aaron.
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I
I don't know if it's been figured out, but I was told the contract won't be an issue.
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A
That's saying because Aaron, whenever he was on with us, we haven't heard anything from Aaron's camp. Right. Has anybody heard anything?
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B
No, no.
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A
Since the time he was on with us, he said I don't have like a contract offer. Right. Isn't that how he explained?
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B
Correct.
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A
Yeah.
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B
He said he hasn't received any sort of contract offer yet.
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A
When was that? That was in what?
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B
Yeah, about a month post Olympics.
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A
So I wonder if that has that changed? Do we know, do we know if that's changed?
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I
Because I just nasking around I was told could this be contractual related? And I was told no, that's not the case at all.
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A
I'll tell you what, we've been down this road a couple times before until it comes.
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B
Yeah, the 30 day thing's laughable. Someone who said, okay, we need your answer in 30 days. Like what are we doing? You know that that's not happening.
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C
Okay.
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D
So all the draft though I think
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A
is a reasonable expectation.
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B
I agree.
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A
Like I think their draft is a expectation, especially with 12 picks and every is his new era, but still trying to go for it era. It's like I think that's a reasonable expectation. I just wonder behind the scenes because what we've heard from Aaron is that he. I don't even have a. We don't even have like a thing is what he said a month ago or whatever. If he hasn't said anything or hasn't come out publicly from them, we are going to not assume anything.
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E
Smart.
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I
Right?
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J
Okay.
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A
We are not going to assume anything.
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C
Can't.
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A
Because he will get his messaging out. Certainly. We know that. Yeah.
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D
Yeah.
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A
Okay. We. We definitely. And you know that. Yeah, you know that more than anybody. So I think the draft is reasonable. But also there's a lot of things that have to go into that. I guess that decision to be made. Good luck out there, Steelers. Just pick one. Good luck out there Steelers fans. That's kind of what it is. Let's continue to talk about the draft which is going to be spectacular this Thursday night. Round one, obviously on ABC, ESPN, NFL Network will be live, YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney Plus, Tik Tok and anywhere else do we miss X Live. We'll be all over there. We cannot wait. Coach Power will be joining us. AQ Shipley will be joining us. Whenever the big guys get drafted, which could be a thing, but obviously there's some big names that are starting to cook up for this particular draft and rumors always this time of year are interesting. Go ahead, D. Bud.
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E
Absolutely. The quarterback who will definitely be in Pittsburgh, Ty Simpson. I just want to know your thoughts on him. And does that mean he's basically confirmed to be a first rounder and then wide receiver Jordan Tyson heard he had a great pro day. Is he pretty much locked in to be the top receiver off the board based on what you're hearing?
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I
I don't know if he's going to be a top receiver, but he's going to be a top pick. Him and Carnell Tate I think will probably be the first two wide receivers selected. I would think that both have a realistic chance to go within the top 10. 12 picks of the draft. Both will be off the board pretty quickly here. Those two guys, Tate and Tyson. You see the moves that Tyson made on Friday. The Giants spent a lot of time with him. It certainly feels like the Giants have a high level of interest in Jordan Tyson attending their his workout and, and having dinner with him and doing all those things, all the legwork on Jordan Tyson. Tate obviously is still going to be a very high pick. Those would be the top two receivers. What was the initial question?
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A
Ty Simpson. Hey, on that note, just to wrap up your last thought about the wide receivers, Tate is currently minus 200 to be the first wide receiver taken on Thursday night on DraftKings.
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I
Currently, yes, that'd be my guess that he would go but I think there's enough Tyson love that it wouldn't shock me if Tyson went. But if I had a bet today, I would say I feel better about Tate going ahead of Tyson. But by the way, the Giants, the Giants can go. Tyson at 5. They could do that. They could do that.
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A
It's all fluid. It sounds like with this particular draft. And on that note, Ty Simpson now Schefter.
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I
Yeah. So Ty Simpson. I think there are two teams that stand. You see that the odd the odds makers are right here. The Cardinals and Jets are the two teams now. The Rams. If the Rams had had picked 29 which they traded to the Chiefs for Trent McDuffie. The Rams would have given him serious consideration right then and there at 29. And I'm not going to say that they still couldn't take him at 13. My guess would be no. But you don't know how the board's going to fall. And so to me, the odds come back to the Cardinals and the Jets. Now the jets have the first pick in the second round on Friday night. Pick 33, the Cardinals of 34. And you know what's fascinating about that is that if we go back to the last week of the season, the Raiders kicker Daniel Carlson made a 60 yard field goal against the Chiefs at Allegiance stadium. Career long 60 yard field goal that gave the Raiders the win that knocked them out of the top slot at the other rounds of the draft. They kept the first overall pick, but they would have had the first pick on Friday night. And because of that kick, now they don't. The jets do. So the jets, what, are in position to go get Ty Simpson if he's there? I think the Cardinals absolutely could come up the board and the Cardinals are listening or at least taking calls on pick number three. So I think those calls are expected to pick up this week. We'll see whether Arizona stays at 3 or whether they move out. What's the matter, Pat, Your neck bothering you or something? I said bothering you.
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A
Well, if you get my scans before I do, which I know you've done before. Yep, okay.
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G
Yep.
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A
Let me know, okay. Because I would like to get rid of this, but you.
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I
I got him. I've learned my lesson there. I got him. Okay.
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A
Hey, we all have our trials and tribulations publicly. Okay? We all have that. But on that note, you just kind of blew my mind there, which did kind of whiplash my neck, which is obviously C2, C5 kind of thing happening because remember Crossroads commentator table yeah, 80 yard sprint RKO. You said the Raiders don't have the first pick in the second draft or second round.
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K
What?
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A
So what? How's that? So how do they get number one overall? I thought that was a big deal.
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I
It was. It was done on strength of schedule. So they had the best strength of schedule, like the. Or the worst, whichever you want to look at it. They got the number one pick. Now the Raiders, Jets, Cardinals and Titans all had the same record. So they rotate it because it on strength of schedule. So the jets pick top of round two. Cardinals pick top around three. Titans pick top around four. The Raiders, I believe, traded the pick at the top of round Five. And it goes like that road stating if Carlson had missed that field cup worst round. The Raiders topic in every round.
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A
Okay. Holy shit. I feel like I'm learning a lot of things right now. The post June 1st designation, I thought to myself as he was explaining that idiot. We talk about this every office. That's what I was thinking. Now you're talking about this. I'm idiot. We do a draft spectacular where all we do is commit all of our time towards the draft for some reason. It is one of our biggest shows every year and we are very grateful to everybody that watches. We should have known that we were in the draft.
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J
I got.
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A
We got. Oh, by the way, espn I'm making. Or maybe it's the NFL. Who. Who made the graphic? Who made it?
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D
Chefy, wasn't it? Oh, I don't know if he made it, but he was the one that tweeted it.
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A
Somebody announced, when they announced that I'm doing pick second round and third round picks for the Colts on Friday night or whatever. I'm back, excited to do it, honored to be a part of it. They put Pat McAfee undrafted.
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B
It's like, I can't be doing that.
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E
Got the car.
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I
Pat, do you have an idea of what you're gonna say when you get up there or are you just gonna wing it?
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A
When?
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I
On Friday night?
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A
Friday night, brother. We got an event on Wednesday. We got this show. We got a first round
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J
scan.
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A
Yeah, I don't even know if I see two or C5 Pence flyers tonight. Yeah, we got Penn's Flyers game too, tonight. What are you talking about, Sheffield? But yes, I have an idea of what I'm gonna say because I don't know if you saw this. I'd like you to be a little bit more efficient on your reporting on the Indianapolis Colts happenings. Do you have the video of Daniel Jones arriving at the facility today on the Colts Twitter I do believe is what it was. You should see this guy's gate. Oh, we're peacocking in there.
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C
Okay.
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A
And after what I just saw Tatum do and what we know Daniel Jones was able to do with his acl, I mean. Yeah, yeah. I'm thinking the broken leg on one side, torn Achilles on the other is just fine. Okay. I'm thinking we're gonna be a. Okay. It's quarterback position. Look at that walk. Look at that walk. Shefty. Look at that walk.
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E
My quarterback.
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A
You know what? Doesn't look good for April 20th. Agreed. 420. Happy. 420 to you. Shefter, you little stoner. Have it. I hope you have an incredible day today. Alec Pierce. He's out.
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C
What?
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E
Wait, what?
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D
Sorry.
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A
What happened?
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D
Did he just get $100 million?
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E
What do you mean out?
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A
He got the biggest in history and he's done already. Well, Alec Pierce signed a four year, 114 million dollar contract this offseason. Underwent an ankle procedure that was sidelined him for roughly three months. That's a long time.
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C
Three months
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A
worry on that one, Chef.
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I
Hey. Hey. He was your guest at the top of the show. How did you miss it?
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A
Why were you on this one, Chefy? Huh?
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I
Why don't you ask him about it? Why don't you ask him?
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A
Why do you know I was supposed to ask about anything? I thought we're a. Okay. We just got $114 million PAT.
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I
He opened the free agent extravaganza on the Pat McAfee Show.
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A
The free agency frenzy. Spectacular draft. Free agency is a frenzy and this is chaotic to think about that. Alec Pierce just out of basement three months. He's at 12 weeks.
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C
What are we doing? Come on.
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A
Anything else about Colts that we need to know? Anything else?
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K
Yeah.
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I
Anthony Richardson's not there today. Kenny Moore is not there today. Both players have officially requested trades.
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C
Colts are so dead, man.
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A
Anything, Richardson. Good luck out there. We think if you find your full potential somewhere, we will be happy. I was a believer towards the end I had, you know, because his upside is crazy. Good luck. Seemingly very unlucky. Kenny Moore leaving. Don't love that. Don't love Kenny Moore leaving at all. This dude's an incredible football player. He showed up now, granted, I think there was some injuries maybe. Yeah.
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E
A little banged up. He played, but he hits.
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A
He's in the middle of it. There's going to be a little bit of that. I think everybody understands that physicality. He's a great player. Zaire. Okay. He gets traded at Green Bay. He made what, one third of our tackles.
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F
Yeah.
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A
I think he was in on every single tackle. Okay. He and I obviously had a happenstance that took place, but he was. Every single tackle felt like he was in there everywhere.
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E
Yep.
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A
Michael Pittman is.
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D
We love Pittman.
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A
So we're going through a team transition as if we were like the Niners. Yes.
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C
At least you got a new gm, new coach.
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E
You sounded negative right now.
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F
Go back to.
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E
Go back to Daniel Jones.
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A
Walking, looking cool.
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E
We'll be in a good spot. All right.
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C
Let's hope that for Friday too. Let's. Can we get you announcing a guy with the name Dan Jones or John Smith and maybe they give you the correct phonetic spelling.
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A
Yeah, the Okariki thing really came back to get me in a bad way.
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C
His name's Okarikay, but what'd they tell you?
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A
Okoriki spelled it out there for me. I'm excited to get back there. Side stage. Last time I did, the draft pick, Roger Goodell looked at me and said, this is what you're wearing? That's right, bro.
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C
Wait. Wait till he sees the neck brace on Friday.
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A
We hope not. We hope there's no willing. Yeah, okay, let's staying on, huh?
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I
How long is the brace staying on?
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B
I mean, if he's got a broken neck.
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A
Get my scans back.
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C
18 months, man.
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A
Get my scans back tomorrow morning. I should know. C2, C5. C2. C5 is where they're looking most important one got closer eye on C2 through C5. I told him I felt pretty good because whenever, you know, when Cameron came up there and the whole place started vibing ank murder was doing a full bang. Tony Yayo bucket cap on, looks so cool in 50 cents she straps there, it was hard not to start bopping. But you know there's a lot of this going on because bang. When jelly roll, jelly rolls you. I mean, your body loses hope.
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E
I don't think I've seen it take will explode like that.
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A
Yeah, I got. I literally got. I got shards of wood all over my entire body. It was a long weekend. Okay, last question here about the draft. Hopefully though, you won't see this after I get scans back tomorrow. But once again, if you get scans early, I would like to sign a thing that says you can break the hippo law. Ty has last question for you about the draft.
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B
Chef Brett Veach said that he expects a lot of trades to happen on Thursday night. So he was excited for fans. But. But from what information is out there, it seems like most of the teams we hear from are interested in trading back. Where do you think this is going to end up? Like, do you think we're going to see more trades than normal or, you know, kind of right on line with what we've had the last couple of years.
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I
Yeah, I think that when you look at the last two years, there were five trades on draft night in each of the past two years. I mean, we might get the same number this year. I'm not looking for any earth shattering moves. I'm looking for some moves where teams maybe jump off a few spots. We'll see how it goes. Like sometimes A player may fall into a spot like one of the two pass rushers could slide depending on how the draft goes to number five or six. So is there a team out there that's willing to jump up there and offer enough to make it happen? One of the pass rushers is one of the teams willing to go back. I think there's always. I think we may get a team jumping up for Ty Simpson in the back of round one. The way that the Giants went up last year to 25 for Jackson Dart, that could happen. But I'm not looking for more than the five that we got the last two years. I think that would be surprising. But it's a strange draft in that regard.
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A
Okay, I can't wait to see it. We've gotten a lot of different reports from different source from around the league on how they view kind of who's where. And it feels like it is a real crapshoot coming on Thursday night after about 12, 13, like, it feels like there's a real crapshoot. So if one team likes somebody very much and they're falling, you could see a move up at the tail end of something. You might see some teams that like a lot of guys and they're like, all right, we'll get out of here. We don't need to be spending the first round on any of this type of stuff. Let's go to the second round. I think there is going to be some action late. I think that from my understanding, from our conversations around the league, I think there's going to be some action late. And I think it's. It's not going to be devastating. Like, it's not going to be like a gigantic move, but it's going to be a lot of repositioning. I think there's a chance that's saying it.
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I
There are a lot of teams. There are a lot of teams that want to move back. There are not as many teams right now that want to move up. But the draft hasn't started and there's certain guys that haven't fallen to a certain spot to make those teams want to come up yet. Yet in advance. But that could very well happen Thursday.
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A
All right. We appreciate the hell out of you, brother. You're the man. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Adam Schefter. Yes. I think, like, I think the tail end of that thing is gonna be some action.
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D
Oh, yeah.
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A
Yeah. From our conversations. Okay. This is me trying to do some journalism as we will guide a five hour show. Well, maybe shorter. We'll See, but I think there's gonna be a lot of moves, so I think that's gonna reset the clock and always kind of moves a little bit.
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D
And I think a lot of it is, like, position based. Like, there's seven offensive tackles who are supposed to be the best seven of the draft before that drops off. If those seven are starting to go in the teens to early 20s, then if the team and then the later half wants to come up, they're gonna have to do that because it falls off until guys are gonna be taken, like, in the third round.
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A
Ratings are gonna be outrageous for this. We're so incredibly lucky that we're a part of it. A man who was part of the mastermind of creating it. Right. All former number two at the NFL. I believe the actual title was Chief Media and Business Officer. Okay. So that's CMO and CBO, I do believe, for the NFL, was there for over 20 years. Absolute stallion of a suit.
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D
Oh, yeah.
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A
Like an actual absolute stallion of a suit. Now he's the CEO of the PGA Tour, Ladies and gentlemen, Brian Roland.
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L
Hey, how are you, Pat? Good to see you.
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A
Great to see you as well. Some would say you're a super suit. And I would say that the PGA Tour made the right. No suit on. Yeah, no suit on. I understand. It's casual. Got to do it. We're in the middle of the season right now. We got 22 more events. Okay. We got another major coming May 14th with the PGA Championship. Obviously, you're in work mode right now, but I think the PGA made the right decision. We would like to let you know that from the NFL. Congratulations. Yeah, thank you. No problem.
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L
Feels good.
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A
Okay. So whenever you go over there, obviously everybody assumes that your experience from the NFL will help the PGA kind of grow and blossom. Masters numbers up and to the right. We assume golf will continue to be that way, especially with the news that's happening abroad. We'll dive into that. But what do you think you bring from the NFL in the growth that you oversaw and saw happen with that league, from a broadcast standpoint that you can take to the pga? Like, how much have you been relying on your information from the NFL?
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L
Well, a lot. Golf is not football. Like, you know, professional golf is not professional football. But I will tell you, there are things I learned at the NFL and helped do at the NFL that I think can make professional golf better, which is why I took the job. One thing we were. We were just adamant about at the NFL is never sitting still and innovating. And then Second, make sure the product is really good. What you watch on a Sunday. Make sure it's competitively good. Make sure the rules are right. Don't be afraid to change rules to make it better. And I think that's what we're doing here. I think, you know, we're spending most of our time with a group of players and some outside people trying to figure out how we make the PGA Tour product better. And we've got a lot of work to do, but I think come this June, we're going to unveil quite a bit, and I think it's going to make not only golf fans happy, but it's gonna make sports fans happy, because this sport is growing like crazy, and we just want them to connect a little bit more with the PGA Tour.
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A
Yeah, golf is a phenomenal sport. I did not play it as a child that much, but obviously I've gotten into it as I grow older. It's the perfect thing to have on the TV during the weekend, especially now with a daughter. I think people love the sport. Obviously, a lot of business and everything like that. There's a lot of people worried about the sport. Okay. For whenever Liv came into the scene, there was a lot of worry about what the future was. I not golf purist. I wish I was. That'd be great. I'd probably be a much better golfer if I was a golf purist. But I'm just kind of outside looking in. We all learned a lot about the pga, I think, and how it operated. Then we watched the Super Duper swing show on Netflix, and it's like the schedule these guys have is insane. And then there's no guaranteed money. I think there was a lot of things that we kind of learned about the PGA Tour through the live, but a lot of people thought it was going to divide golf. Now, golf has obviously survived. PGA Tour has obviously thrived. And the future conversations about live are what they are right now, very, very loudly. How do you feel about how PGA has evolved since Liv started and what is kind of the vision for you as you go forward with whatever happens with the competition? If that makes sense.
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L
Yeah, no, it makes sense. Look, I think Liv did what the AFL did for the NFL years ago. Maybe what the USFL did for the NFL years ago is basically competition can make it better. And I think what. Whenever you get competition, you end up figuring out what you do well, what you don't do well. And I think that's what Liv did, was expose some things that maybe the PGA Tour could do. Better, how we can make it better for fans, how we can make it better for professional golfers, how we can make it better for our television partners. And that's a good thing. And I think the changes that the Tour has made before I got here, the changes we're doing now, I think shows that when you do those things, fans go to where the best product is and where the best golfers are and where the best athletes are. And I think that's really, really important. So in a lot of ways, I think Liv did the professional golf world a favor in a lot of ways. And so. But going. But again, I spend most of my time now thinking about the PGA Tour and how we do these things better. And so I think the future is really bright for us, and I think it's bright for professional golf.
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A
I think the PGA Tour got to showcase how much better it is, too.
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C
Through this year.
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A
You know, we learned a lot about the PGA Tour, but then we also learned about a lot of the things the PGA Tour has done very well over. As we turn over and look at something with a money putt happening, with DJ Khaled in the back screaming, which I love, we the best. As somebody trying to win a tournament, there was like, some things obviously flawed, but I think it was a showcase of what the PGA Tour was. Now, a lot of the boys on the PGA Tour roster took a lot of pride in the fact that they've represented the PGA Tour. You're about to go through a process here where I assume the PGA Tour is only going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. How is your relationship with the golfers? I know that you said you have a lot of meetings with them as you're trying to evolve the sport, but what is your relationship like with the golfers and how is it supposed to be?
- [49:14]
L
You think, well, it's pretty good. You mentioned, first thing when I got the job and something that maybe some people thought was crazy, but I thought it was a good idea, was I was going to meet with as many of the PGA Tour members as I can, and I think I'm up to 85 or something like that. And these aren't short meetings. I've spent anywhere from an hour to an hour and a half with them, and I've learned a ton. But I think they're smart, they're driven, they know what they want. And I. I've learned a lot talking to them. They've given me a lot of good advice. So I think, I think that's, that's. That's really important, but also I think it's important to remember the PGA Tour is different than most professional sports. When Liv came along and the PGA Tour started. Started doing things some things differently, one thing they did was essentially create a situation in a league where the players actually own part of the tour. So if you think about it, my shareholders, the people that I think most about, are actually the players. That's not the same in other sports. Where I came from, it was owners and players, management and labor. It was a collective bargaining agreement was much different. It's a different feel here when members of the board and the people are the shareholders and they're. They're players. So when you have that relationship with them, I think it's really different and unique, but also something pretty powerful where I like to think we're really aligned with where they want to go.
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A
Yeah, I would think so, too. And I think the players, obviously, they see your resume, they hear about what you've been able to accomplish, they probably have a lot of respect and trust in what your vision is going to be, especially if you're keeping them in the loop. And what happened with the last guy that was in your seat, you know, that was all very public. That was all very, very, very, very public. Let's talk about one of the guys in your locker room. That's obviously incredibly important to the game and to our lives, I do believe. Go ahead, Tone.
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D
Yeah, Brian, I had a question because I it. When I was watching yesterday, it's like, this is so awesome that Scotty and Matt. Matt Fitzpatrick. Sorry, we're in the playoff, and it feels like Scotty is in the top five, and it's not. Feels like he's in top five every single week. How important is that for the Tour to have your stars and Scotty be in the top five, top ten every single week in contention?
- [51:29]
L
Well, I think it helps. I think it's a lot. But, you know, Pat, you asked me about what I learned from my old job. So here's the thing about the NFL, I think, and I'll get to your question in a minute. The NFL works because when the Cowboys are on television, you'll watch. Or when the Steelers are on television, you'll watch. Or the Giants, because they're from a big market. But why it really works is when the Bengals are good, you'll watch. Or the Lions are good to watch. And so in golf, even right up to this lift thing, there was this perception that, hey, a tournament is only good if a couple of top guys are playing or the couple guys on the leaderboard on Sunday when the reality is, outside of the NFL, I can't find another professional sport where the competitive parity is so tight.
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I
So.
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L
So, meaning that the difference between the number fifth ranked golfer in the world and the 50th is nothing. It's razor thin. It's a. It's a stroke over four days. And so I think when you see Scotty being at the top of the leaderboard, it's great. And the fact that he is top of the leaderboard almost every week is an amazing athletic accomplishment. It's really, really hard to do. But I also think what you're seeing is this tour is full of a lot of really good athletes and golfers and compelling and we need to do better job exposing it. But you saw that out on Sunday, right? You saw Scotty do what Scotty does, which is make a weekend run. But you saw Matt who and what he did, and he consistently, he consistently got there and won the tournament. And by the way, it was by a stroke in a playoff. And so I think on any given Sunday, that old expression, I think it applies to the PGA Tour more than almost any other stuff.
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I
Sport.
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A
Oh, so you took that from the NFL. Okay, got it. That's what you took. That's what you took. I respect. Yeah, patent it, trademark it, telco miss, you beat him to it. But it is real. That's how Cam Young comes into the scene. Gary Woodland, he eagled on 18 or whatever from like 200 yards. There's just like spectacular things happening all around your tour. Now, the last question for you, and we appreciate you so much for your time, I think it's a very important one because the PGA Tour has always been the best, battling against the best. And everybody thought that was what's going to happen, you know, when everybody split and divide. But now you're in the middle of having to figure that whole thing out. D but has a last question for you here.
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E
Yeah, we talked about some of the rumors with the other tours and now with Big Game Brooks coming back to PGA Tour, we saw some of the stipulations, I guess with his deal. Is there like a defined path for players to come back to the PGA Tour? And is it kind of, I guess, situational situations are situations with a player by player situation. How is it?
- [54:04]
L
Yeah, I think we're thinking about it. Listen, we're reading all the same headlines you're reading. We don't know what's going on over there. We don't know. We know Those guys are under contract. We'll respect that. Brooks came back onto the tour because he made a phone call and said, look, I'm out of my contract. I'm ready to come back. So we're thinking about it. You know, we're.
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G
We'll.
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L
We'll react when we have an opportunity to react. But right now we're focusing on.
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A
On the.
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L
Making the PGA Tour better. But listen, I've said it publicly, and I'll say it again. I'm interested in whatever makes the PGA Tour better. That's what. That's what my job is. That's what I'm interested in doing. And that has no limit. So that's how I'll focus on it.
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A
I appreciate the hell out of what you did for the NFL. I appreciate what you did for us. Okay. Brian knows that I'm. I could certainly tell people what a lot of people think. I actually will say it, which causes situations. I would say, Brian, you've always been very patient with me and us and very giving for us. So we are very, very grateful for you, appreciative of you. Good luck out there. We can't wait to continue to watch. And I'm excited to see the up and to the right, the roll up effect of the PGA Tour and the incredible sport that you guys have.
- [55:16]
L
Well, Pat, we need to get you guys out and experience a little bit of that. So, like, I need. You guys should come to the Players Championship next year. Whatever you want. We'll get you there.
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A
We'll.
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L
We'll set. We'll give you a nice setup. You guys should come and have fun.
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A
You're a good man, Brian. We'll see. We will definitely want to come. We will definitely want to come. We also don't want to ruin any of these things. I was at Augusta. I watched the Masters last. We don't need to be anywhere near. I don't need to be anywhere near that type of situation. But we will certainly evaluate everything else, and we'd be honored. So we're very appreciative.
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L
All right, we'll see you then.
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A
How's your game?
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G
Are you.
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A
How's your game? Are you ass or are you good?
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L
Listen, I wasn't that great to begin this job. The funny thing is I play less golf in this job than I did before. That's the problem.
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I
So I'm getting worse.
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L
I'm getting worse now.
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A
You lost all your bad habits. You're only getting better. Ladies and gentlemen, CEO of the PGA Tour, Brian Rollout. Yeah.
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E
Yeah.
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A
He's a dog.
- [56:05]
E
Yeah, Yeah, I see your tweet.
- [56:07]
A
No, I'm not. I don't want. We don't need to bring that up. We don't need to bring that up. We are getting pseudo sued by somebody within the NFL who has a partnership with the NFL because we didn't clearly pay for graphics at one point, but we had highlights. So we couldn't use the. The NFL's graphics, but we could use the NFL highlights.
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E
Remember that?
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A
So my entire defense was. So can I pause the highlight? If I pause the highlight and the helmet's on there, that's a graphic. Can't pause. Okay.
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B
Okay, gotcha.
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A
So Brian Roloff got to hear me.
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D
Oh, yeah, I remember.
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A
Really? In a full.
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D
We were using Connor's logos.
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A
Yeah. We drove home. Is this what you want? This is what I'm saying.
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E
Good time.
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A
Brian's like, can we please.
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K
That was a great.
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A
Can we please, please. We'd love to, Brian. Thank you. He's a weapon.
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B
Yeah.
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A
He can deal with everybody and anything. That's why he's perfect.
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J
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J
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Are the greatest. I'm so sorry I look like this.
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D
It's not your fault.
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B
Yeah, don't apologize.
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A
Three people are to blame for this.
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D
Kind of backstabbed a couple times.
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A
Business. That's a good call.
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C
Yeah, right.
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A
Cut your roads. Got me in a crossroads. Okay. I went for A big right once again. I ain't stopped doing that.
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D
But if it lands, that's the Oculus. That's the Oculus's problem.
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J
You know it.
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A
Jelly roll. I did it to him. I had a big whooping one. And he. Whammy. He saw it coming. I said, I'm not doing it again. And there I am. Grandest stage of them all. He just posted Randy Orton. That's my guy. The bell hasn't rung. He's not supposed to beat us in this fight. We were supposed to beat him at this point. We're supposed to beat him down before this match starts so that whenever the match starts, starts, he's already battered, he's already bruised. There's no dot. Randy Orton's gonna beat him. He's already beat up. They flipped it on us, didn't he?
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D
Yeah.
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A
Yeah, he did pretty quickly.
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C
Yeah, he knew.
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D
He's a crafty son of a.
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A
And that's the thing about me, you know, Grant, I've done everything in the wrestling business.
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B
You have.
- [59:12]
A
Okay. I've done everything in the wrestling business. That's the thing about being new in there, though. I get so excited. I'm like, oh, here's my moment. I'm going with a big one. And bang. He moves, catches. I'm upside down now. I'm in his armpit. I'm in his arms.
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D
Not a good place to be.
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A
It's like I'm just, like, hypnotized. I can feel my body. I can't move it. Like, what am I doing here? I didn't know I was this flexible. I'm not. It hurt. Everything hurt. And then bang. Right in. And then mat. And all of a sudden, he kicks me out. I fucking fall out of the ring.
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D
It's not a short fall.
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A
Sack of bones to the ground. Yeah. In my head, it was a lot shorter than that. It's not as I was falling through the sky. It was like whenever I'm in a dream and, you know you're following your eye. Oh, yeah. That's what I felt like as I was. And then that hits ground. Boom. Lose my hair. Then all of a sudden, Kelly picks me up, throws me up on a desk that I birthed.
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F
Correct.
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A
That thing debuted, okay. In an era in which I was on a commentator.
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B
That's right.
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A
Standing on it on a regular basis, trying to get one a little bit thicker.
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B
Problem?
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E
Yeah.
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A
Where the hell did he come from?
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B
Good question.
- [60:14]
A
Great question. I hadn't seen this ex convict. He was a good man. But in this Moment. I think he got lost in the sauce of 106,000 people or whatever it was. 106,000 tickets being sold to things obliterated.
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B
And it blew up.
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A
Shrapnel. Cots. Cots. Bam. Bang. Splinter on my nipples. I mean, it's a bad spot that I got going on.
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D
Artery.
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A
Yeah. But I lost my control of my body. Had to get stretchered out of there. They stretchered me out after Jelly roll. Jelly rolled me. And that was whenever they decided in the back should probably put a look that guy that got right there.
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D
What do you say? Like, hope you get well soon.
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J
Oh, no.
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E
Those marks, they aren't like NFL fans.
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A
No, no, no. They weren't waiting.
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J
Some mean things.
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E
You gotta.
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A
Like Lions, they're saying really mean.
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E
Really mean things.
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B
That was the best.
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D
That was worth it all.
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A
And then I came back.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I mean, yeah. Because I got. My body was checked. They were worried about my neck, but the body was a. Okay. And you know, Charles Ross Robinson goes down. Let me get. Let me get out here now. A lot of people are asking if this would have been official if I would have made it to three. Well, I never know.
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D
Okay. That didn't get you too.
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E
Could have counted a little faster. I think actually looking back at it, that's, that's.
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A
That was a big mistake. And maybe it was my neck brace. Oh, probably I should have counted quicker. You figured, Randy, that kind of says it all.
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D
Because you sprinted down that ramp and you couldn't tie your shoe because of your neck. Obviously you.
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E
You get.
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D
You trip over that shoelace. So that's going to be tough.
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A
Yeah. And there has been people that have. Have not had good runs down. Right.
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D
There was other people who did not break down going down that ramp this weekend.
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A
What's that?
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B
Big Dog.
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D
Big dog was going 100 miles an hour. He did not break down.
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A
You're talking about Braun Breaker. Yeah, yeah. Braun Breaker did a nice little spear. I think it was nearly just a drive. Boom. Yeah. I mean, we're talking about you because now at the end there, there's. He's a little drop off.
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B
Yeah.
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A
You know, and did I know that as well? I don't know.
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D
What a psycho.
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A
Yeah. Bron Breaker's back. That's good. There's a lot of things I saw. I was like, it's good.
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E
Good Internet.
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C
Danhausen.
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A
Did you see that? Danhausen. Incredible. And his group.
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C
And his group of midgets, which Michael Cole said that's exactly what they wanted to be called.
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A
Michael Cole said before you Cancel me online. This particular group of people told me that they want. Want me to call them. Hasan's.
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C
Yes.
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A
And they were, weren't they? They showed right up there for Cena. Cena did a phenomenal job.
- [62:34]
B
Oh my God, so good.
- [62:36]
A
And then Roman Reigns with what, zero percent body fat?
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L
Yeah.
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C
Yo, that was quite the difference.
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E
Those shoes.
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A
That's 0% body fat out there. It was a hell of a show. Six man tag. I'm sorry. Six man, six pack ladder match. Did you guys watch that?
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C
Oh, yeah. McDonough Spectacular.
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A
Spectacular. McDonald. We knew it. But soon as you know, I said in lead up, you know, as I was trying to motivate my friend.
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C
Former.
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B
Yeah, I was gonna say loosely.
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A
I was trying to explain to him that everybody's ass. The only thing that's good is you. Okay? That was the hype up a friend. That's why. Put other people down to lift him up. That's what I'm doing. That is exactly what I'm doing to do it. I didn't even look at Sunday, okay? So I said, Sunday, not worth a watch. This is what you need to be watching. A lot of people took that very personally. I could see that from my understanding moment.
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C
You weren't wrong.
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A
No, I was just, hey, this is what it's about right here. Okay? A lot of people took that very personally. And I would like to let everybody know I watched that Sunday from takeoff until land. Perfectly timed. A lot of people said it wasn't long enough, but for me, in my particular flight, perfect. Perfectly timed.
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D
Penta hit that Mexican destroyer on him.
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A
Oh, on McDonough.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Rusev. Did we know he was gonna be in there?
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B
No.
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A
What a perfect. Like that head thing.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
That was a good show.
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J
It was great.
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A
It was a good show.
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B
Brock and Obafemi, you know, I was not familiar with his game. I'll just say that guy's a. An absolute over freak of nature.
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A
Sec, baby. Yeah, but you get it right?
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B
Sec. Shot put.
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A
Yeah. You're certain really right. He's a monster.
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D
I thought he played left tackle.
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F
Bama.
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A
And how about him just eating an F5?
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B
Yeah.
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A
Eating an F5. Just getting right up, saying, how you doing? Unbelievable. Way to kick off. I mean, that's two. You don't see that?
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B
No, that's just not.
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A
That's what we've been talking about the whole time. Those are WWE Superstars, which, by the way, we learned. We learned and we learned everything.
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D
Not that one guy in the main event on Sunday.
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A
That was a great match.
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L
Actually look like the rest.
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A
I said it was going to be shite, right? I was wrong, man.
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L
Yeah, I was wrong.
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E
I'm a big fan of where the direction W is going. You know, a few years ago, they were calling Triple H something else. And then we're going Triple Ks and take his oil. They were saying as age like spoiled milk. I mean, we got oba. We got a Javon Evans trick. Willie, you know, Jade lost to Ria. Welcome back, Ria. You got the title back.
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A
But Ria, by the way, I, I, she doesn't look nearly as jacked. No, she looked so explodes like nimble. Yeah. That was awesome to watch. And then Jade. That was a game plan. I mean, I didn't know that. I didn't know.
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B
Built in a lab.
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A
Looks like once again, we're continuing to talk.
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F
Yeah.
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A
Here we are, wwe. You're right. Congrats, wwe. You guys are in great direction, man. Happy, good luck.
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D
Congrats. You saved it.
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A
Yeah, certainly did.
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D
They weren't in a great direction, too.
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A
I'll tell you what. A lot of people took it very personal. Well.
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B
And everyone still bitched about it regardless. Yeah.
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E
No way.
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B
Both nights. Oh, yeah. Get away from it.
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A
Nah. Well, hey, that's the business, baby.
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B
That is the business.
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A
That is the business.
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C
No matter what.
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A
Good luck to all parties out there. I would like to say about the American Nightmare right there. Cody Rhodes, he just might be the right one.
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J
Yeah, that man's a ww.
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A
That might just be the right one. I just, you know, getting a cheat because I've been studying them, you know, tape. Yeah, I'm studying him, trying to help out. Drop some things in there. It rain doesn't need my help in the ring. Okay. He's obviously ready. Or I could have gave it to him. I wonder if I would have went over to the bell and they would have been like, no, why do we do that?
- [66:20]
B
I mean, were there any stipulations beforehand? Put in place, said you couldn't do that.
- [66:23]
A
To be clear, I sprinted through gorilla. I was not in gorilla. Like, I sprinted right by.
- [66:28]
D
Was that man.
- [66:31]
A
That's why there was no lights, no nothing.
- [66:32]
B
Yep.
- [66:33]
A
Just me coming, flying in there.
- [66:34]
E
So much.
- [66:35]
A
I would save the day.
- [66:36]
E
Was the intro on TV when you introduced him.
- [66:38]
A
Because that was the depiction of perfection. Yeah, that was, that was a professional wrestling.
- [66:43]
E
So much happened.
- [66:43]
A
Yeah, I thought about that a lot. You know, I, I realized in the moment that I certainly put enough thinking into that instead of everything else that was going on. Yeah. I wasn't on it was an honor to be a part of it all. And WWE put on a hell of a two days out there in Vegas. Shout out to the roster.
- [67:01]
B
Shout out.
- [67:02]
A
They did a great job. Dan, Housing is a problem.
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D
Listen, if you got out of the weekend without getting cursed you on the
- [67:11]
A
weekend, I will say I didn't meet the housing anything.
- [67:15]
E
Curse you.
- [67:15]
J
Whoa.
- [67:19]
A
And we're out of there. I saw him five different times. Always full.
- [67:24]
F
Yeah, always.
- [67:26]
D
Sure it wasn't one of his?
- [67:27]
A
I didn't know. The group of Michael Cole said it. Not me. Midgets. Okay. That is their group's name. Little people is proper term. We do believe we've been down this road before. Michael Cole said this group would like to be called. I had not seen that particular group with the house.
- [67:42]
E
Okay.
- [67:43]
A
I had not seen that.
- [67:44]
H
Have you confirmed that his curses actually work?
- [67:46]
A
Yes. The Mets lost 11 Straighters.
- [67:49]
B
Yeah.
- [67:49]
H
Well from Detroit. And he cursed all of Detroit's enemies. And that would include the Orlando Magic.
- [67:55]
A
And we lost.
- [67:56]
H
And we're the one seating there.
- [67:57]
D
The series isn't over yet.
- [67:58]
H
So I'm not a believer in Dan H. Foxy.
- [68:01]
A
I would not be.
- [68:04]
J
Hear that?
- [68:04]
A
Dan Housing. It's a bad idea.
- [68:06]
H
We better win a title.
- [68:07]
A
Dan Hos Foxy. That group is going to walk in here.
- [68:09]
B
Yeah.
- [68:10]
A
Okay. Because of you. We're trying to stay out of the negative with that group.
- [68:14]
H
I need four wins in a row. Dan Hoskinson. Mazen.
- [68:16]
A
All right. Let's move on to talk about sports. NBA playoffs. NHL playoffs happen. Toxic tables here at Boston. Connor at Ty Schmidt. One half of the hammer done. Cowboys AP Tonis. You're going back. Pittsburgh this week cannot wait.
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D
This is gonna be the best week of the entire year. Not even close.
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A
I'm very interested. See, the view is going to be amazing.
- [68:36]
E
Yes.
- [68:36]
A
Okay. The optics of the draft are going to be incredible. Pittsburgh built for optically awesome things. Especially with football, with where the stadium is, with all the history. I mean, it is. It is going to be phenomenal viewing. I'm intrigued to see how many people because there's a lot of users talking right now. I've decided a lot of injuries talking right now. Saying I ain't going down there. You're right.
- [68:57]
D
Listen.
- [68:57]
A
And then what? Am I supposed to come home or am I just sleeping down her? How we getting out?
- [69:01]
E
That's.
- [69:01]
D
That's who we are. We're gonna. Okay. And it's supposed to be what, 200000 people a day?
- [69:06]
L
Who cares?
- [69:07]
D
Who cares what they think?
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F
Okay.
- [69:08]
D
It's about the. The TV product and if it looks good on tv, the rest of the nation thinks it was great. Doesn't matter.
- [69:13]
A
See, that's what the interest are saying right there because now they're adding to the. I actually kind of want to watch the city. Yeah. I love here on TV while it's happening. I don't know why I need to get.
- [69:21]
D
I'm hearing a lot of people come around be like, yeah, I'm. I'm going.
- [69:24]
K
Go down.
- [69:24]
A
I think push comes to shove. I think push comes to shove. Last day.
- [69:28]
D
Want to get down and see it.
- [69:29]
A
Frank's going to get asked about it. Hey, we got a ride going down right now. Do you want to go? I said I wasn't going. Are you sure you don't want to go? All right.
- [69:39]
B
Like the weather Thursday.
- [69:41]
D
I know. Friday. I know. Yinzers. The weather's supposed to be immaculate. They're going to get off of work on Friday and everyone's heading down tarps.
- [69:49]
A
I cannot wait to see the crowd down there.
- [69:52]
C
Yeah. If they see people too on the TV that aren't users, they're going to be pissed that there are people that aren't yinzers on there. And then they're going to need to go to represent Pittsburgh in itself.
- [70:01]
A
This is a nice little social experiment for users. As we look from the outside in here, you know, it's. I'm excited to see how they handle it. I think it's going to look amazing. I think it's going to be fantastic. I think you're going to learn a lot about Pittsburgh football and the history of how much football matters to the area. I think you're potentially also going to learn the injuries are. I ain't doing it. There's a lot of that. Potentially. I can't wait as well in the city. We'll see how it goes. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. Excited for the draft. Spectacular, brother. I think we got a good one.
- [70:28]
E
I am. We will obviously build cops. I can't wait to be in his presence for those few hours. It will be a little faster. Can't wait for that. The crowd can't wait for that. Should be electric on all fronts.
- [70:38]
A
Bill Cower is excited.
- [70:39]
E
Oh, yeah.
- [70:40]
A
Bill Cower is knowledgeable and Bill Cower is going to love that he's back in Pittsburgh. Okay. And we are incredibly thankful and lucky that he'll be joining us. AQ Shipley will also be there. And maybe some surprises. Maybe some surprises not like what we did to the WWE world.
- [70:54]
C
Okay.
- [70:55]
A
That was pretty dope.
- [70:56]
D
That was a good surprise.
- [70:57]
B
Top notch.
- [70:58]
A
I felt pretty good about that. Top.
- [71:00]
C
Fantastic work.
- [71:02]
A
Surprise, nerds. Did you see all the wrestling people, the way you were reporting it, calling your fans that paid money to be there. Nerds is not a good idea. Who said, like, shut the up? Yeah, okay.
- [71:15]
G
Shut up, nerd.
- [71:17]
A
That was awesome. Exactly. It's literally the business. Exactly. The fact that we ran that live, the amount of things, that's good.
- [71:24]
B
I mean, we knew that was gonna happen. We said, hey, you put big surprise up on that thing. Those people are gonna drone like zombies right over there. Surprise. Oh, surprise, surprise, surprise. We knew there was gonna be a massive, massive crowd. I mean, just. Just well executed, well done. Hilarious on all fronts. And even the people in the crowd, most of them were like, oh, man, he got us pretty good.
- [71:45]
A
It was a fun run there. I'll tell you what. Three weeks, okay. That's how long that was. Did that feel like three weeks or did that feel like two years? Two years, Yeah.
- [71:53]
B
I can't imagine how long it felt for you.
- [71:54]
A
Yeah, it was a good time. Thank you, WWE for the opportunity. And I would like to say I think the relationship between ESPN and WWE started off good there.
- [72:05]
D
Yeah, strong.
- [72:06]
A
We'll see. I guess everybody will kind of see because there was some wanderings, there was some worries. We'll see how, you know, everything goes. Excited to be a part of it. That'd be a good partnership for the long haul.
- [72:15]
F
Oh, yeah.
- [72:16]
A
See, sports media people. So you got the wrestling people mad that ESPN's doing stuff.
- [72:19]
D
Yep.
- [72:20]
A
And then you got the sports media people mad about. Yeah.
- [72:23]
B
Why the hell are we talking about WWE, by the way?
- [72:27]
A
Our show, 90% of the NBA and NHL. Yeah, I don't think that was highlighted enough. I think that was kind of just thrown in there for thing. We're here for sports, but also WWE and ESPN partnership, I think, is a pretty big one. Yeah, I think there's a lot. I think entertainment, I think it's a pretty big thing. So everybody buying into it. I like to say to the people at espn, not that I speak for anybody, literally, I do not speak for wrestling fans and I do not speak for the wwe. I do not say that. But I appreciate that the ESPN folks did go all in. Like, that was cool. That's a good way to welcome a new partnership.
- [73:02]
B
Yeah, for sure.
- [73:03]
A
Wouldn't that be fun? Did you see they made a documentary about inside the NBA too? ESPN did. Welcoming them in.
- [73:09]
C
Did not see that.
- [73:10]
A
That's really cool of them to do that. That's a cool thing to do to people that are coming to your network. You know, that's a very fun thing to do. That would be awesome to experience.
- [73:18]
B
It would.
- [73:19]
A
When I feel good. That would be great. That would be good.
- [73:21]
D
Like a warm hug.
- [73:22]
A
So congrats to ESPN, WWE's relationship. I think it'd be amazing. And congrats to everybody going all in. That was fun. That was a fun Wrestlemania. That was a Fun Road to WrestleMania there for the last. That was fun dimensions. I'm excited for those. Stop.
- [73:36]
C
Yeah, I bet you see that.
- [73:37]
D
Give it.
- [73:39]
A
Just want to ruin everybody. Just want to go into the profile, scroll through the photos, screenshot the photos. Do a little bit more research. Previous articles wrote by person. Screenshot that stuff. I had some time yesterday on that flight. One. One. One person in particular. Almost got a full on love and I said not I'm out of business.
- [74:00]
D
True.
- [74:01]
A
Which I am.
- [74:02]
E
That is a good move though. Just picking one.
- [74:03]
A
One out of just so see, you're like Nick. That's. That's what Nick is always just one old Frankie skates back there. He's always the friend, you know. Send it, send it, send it. Because I'll screenshot something about to be just a murder. Just a murdering of somebody with facts, reason and actual logic and photo evidence. I can't just do that anymore. On X I used to really go at me, you know. You talk about me sweet. You open the door, I'm going to murder you. Now let's go ahead and see who's. Let's go ahead and do this, you know. Can't do it anymore. Nick's always the guy. You got to send a message. Sounds like you are as well. I'm not going to see. I'm not going to send. Set an example. Just one. All you need is one. You guys are bad people. Okay, we don't need to go into that buzzsaw anymore. We're done with the business.
- [74:46]
E
Okay?
- [74:47]
C
Rest in peace.
- [74:48]
H
Are you sad?
- [74:50]
A
It was a good run, man. Great run. Was a good run. Yeah.
- [74:54]
H
It was a. I remember the first day.
- [74:57]
A
Well, if you treat every day like it's your first day actually. Which is one of the WWE rules. Always has been. Every day could be the most exciting day in wwe. And I think I tried to do that literally every single day. Pretty isolated last three weeks though I will say. Didn't really see anybody. Didn't really talk to me.
- [75:16]
E
That's healing.
- [75:17]
D
That is healing.
- [75:18]
A
Had no Internet or anything on the bus, you know. Just kind of locked away. Just locked away. Let me go ahead and open this up. Where am I headed? That way. All right. I hate everybody in here and then right back out. That was a crazy run.
- [75:33]
E
Oh, yeah.
- [75:34]
A
What a road. I'm not sad, I'm thankful.
- [75:37]
D
Hell, yeah.
- [75:38]
A
And on that note,
- [75:41]
B
Boom.
- [75:45]
A
All right.
- [75:48]
C
Great work.
- [75:54]
A
It was fun. I loved it. It was childhood dream. A lot of them. Yeah.
- [75:57]
B
Multiple Wrestlemanias. That's, you know.
- [76:00]
D
Yeah.
- [76:00]
C
Multiple main events.
- [76:02]
B
Yeah. So cold.
- [76:03]
A
I mean, just so many different little moments. Stunner. Yeah. Obviously, the run down the ramp, that.
- [76:08]
B
That personally, I mean, that might be my favorite. That was my favorite thing you've ever done.
- [76:12]
A
Oh, my God. Man. I felt pretty athletic.
- [76:15]
B
Yeah.
- [76:15]
A
As I was running, I'm like, all right, everything's kind of holding up.
- [76:17]
B
If you don't have perfect posture there, you're collapsing. Yeah, exactly.
- [76:21]
A
Yeah, exactly. Because, I mean, just so stupid. All right, let's get out of here. Let's move along. Joining us live from anatic in Ohio is a man who's a college football national champion super bowl champion rider cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hogg. C2C5. Any workouts I need to do?
- [76:38]
G
I tell you what, prayers up for your scans. I hope they come back very positive. Obviously, I hate to see you in the neck brace again. It's tough to see you this way, but you do handle it very well. As we saw you sprinting down the ramp at a 4, 4 pace. That was amazing.
- [76:49]
A
Thank you. It was a little downhill. Might have been 4, 5, 4, 6, who knows? I was trying. That was just three quarter stride, too, because I didn't want to mess up the neck too much, you know, I didn't want to mess up the neck too much down there at the bottom. I should have done a little bit more calculation on the drop off because there was a lead down and then a pick back up. And I guess I should have counted quicker. I'm not even wearing the same shirt as the refs. Okay. OG I am. Yeah.
- [77:11]
C
Old school.
- [77:11]
A
I am old school.
- [77:12]
B
Yeah.
- [77:12]
C
Throw back.
- [77:13]
A
The mistake I made, aj I should have counted quicker that that's on me.
- [77:17]
G
But I mean, but you were legit in that moment, though. You. You're a showman as well. You're an entertainer. So you got. You can't just boom, boom, boom, 1, 2, 3. You know that.
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A
You're right. I didn't even.
- [77:26]
G
Goodness.
- [77:26]
A
Yeah. I mean, that's it.
- [77:27]
D
Maybe that's what Randy was upset about.
- [77:28]
A
I already got that. I respected the business.
- [77:30]
L
Yeah.
- [77:31]
A
Because I did think if he's gonna
- [77:32]
E
become, oh, good call, Tony.
- [77:34]
D
Because he. He wanted a quick con, but I didn't.
- [77:37]
A
I didn't want to do it.
- [77:38]
D
No, because you're to honor.
- [77:39]
A
But also, the question remains, if I do count the three there, does it even matter?
- [77:44]
G
Do they ring the bell and you guys are out of there?
- [77:47]
A
I don't know. Yeah, I. I do not know. I think it matters.
- [77:50]
E
Yeah.
- [77:50]
A
I do not know.
- [77:51]
E
Cody. Cody was clearly respecting the count.
- [77:53]
A
All right. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man that tried to get into a little WWE action himself on X. He decided to go after an entire city. I used to be one of you. Let me go ahead and showcase how I know I used to be one of you. One of the greatest tweets I've seen in a while for a guy clapping back at a city trying to say, don't you talk about us. You're different now. You live in a city of stars. You won a Super bowl with the Rams. You're won Walter Payton, man of the year with the Rams. You are celebrated as an all time great Ram. We don't need you talking about our city over here in Ohio hasn't won ever. Ladies and gentlemen, friend of the program, Amazon prime pundit, absolute Stallion, super bowl champion, future first ballot hall of famer.
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B
We think, yeah. I mean, who knows?
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A
Ladies and gentlemen, Andrew Whitworth.
- [78:44]
J
What up, baby?
- [78:45]
A
How you doing, man?
- [78:46]
F
Gentlemen, gentlemen. I'm good, baby.
- [78:48]
A
I love what you tweeted there to Cincinnati. Can we please run through all of the things briefly here? You played 168 games as a Bengal. That would be enough. Okay. You should have put period, sent that. Just stop Three division titles. Hey, we did some good things together. Could have sent that. And stopped five straight playoff appearances. Six total, if we're counting just as a total. Could have sent just that. Had all four of my kids there. That's like, hey, it's a big deal. Okay, that's kind of the thing then. This is where you kind of take a good turn in my eyes. I've been to Jeff Ruby's a thousand times. I pretended to like Skyline chili when I was sober. I've stumbled drunk around Mount Adams, eating Pizza Montgomery in Barbie. Barbecue is literally in my fridge right now. I spent many a night in the courtyard. Covington sat in red suite with Neil Armstrong. Watched Amy Grant with the CPO at Cincinnati Music Hall. I parted with Nick Lachey. Okay, That's a huge one. 98 degrees, obviously. Club Bang on Fourth street, if you know that you're a Cincy person. You ate the beluga sushi boat in regular. You sat with Charlie Sheen as he smoked the cig in the Queen City Club.
- [79:46]
C
Wow.
- [79:47]
A
Big, big time, big time Cincinnati day. And then, then you said the list goes on. So I'll use we respectfully, any damn time I want. Who Day. Okay, so this obviously, brother, as you start to celebrate the Cincinnati Bengals move of Dexter Lawrence, I would assume, can you explain to me how you think that happened and why you think this helps the Bengals? And if you're going to be. You were the pride of the.
- [80:10]
B
Yeah.
- [80:11]
A
Proud of the jungle this year. If this is going to make Cincinnati a lot more lovable worldwide, why does anybody care? How do you feel this helps the team? And why do you like the move, Whit?
- [80:21]
F
I like the move just because to me, I think of our run in 2011, 2015, Pat, we went to the playoffs five years in a row. And one of the things that always stuck to me when I left there and I got to la and I think of some of the swings that we took when I was with the Rams organization is it always felt like, all right, we're a damn good football team. We just can't quite get over the hump. But there was never this all in moment from the organization. And when I say that, I'm talking from up top. Hey, let's go make that big trade. Let's go sign that one more person to a contract that maybe we're pushing it a little bit in the cap, but we're saying, hey, we're going to win a damn Super Bowl. To me, that's what's been missing in my opinion in the Joe Burrow era is like, all right, you do have this unbelievable quarterback, you do have some really talented receivers and you have been able to put up some great offensive numbers. But where are the big swings every off season that say I think sometimes you need to put the whole building on notice. We're all in like we're going to go try to win a Super bowl and that's the bottom line. And so I think to me this was their version of that. It's more about the message. Do I think Dexter Lawrence is a good, good piece to them having the opportunity? Hell yeah, I do. But I also love the message. We're sending the whole team a message. Hey, we got a window. We're about to go try to take that window right now. Everybody lock in and let's go.
- [81:38]
A
Seems like it was a good deal for both parties as well, to get done. I did not expect Duke Tobin to ever do this. This is obviously a top 10 pick trade. First time they've ever done that in the history of the Bengals. We all assumed that everybody would want Dexter Lawrence if he was available because how good of a football player he is. Tell me a little bit about how the Cincinnati Bengals decide Dexter Lawrence instead of Trey Hendrickson. Is that the conversation you think? And with the way Trey has kind of gone the last three years and then now we bring in sexy dexy to the D line, do you think they were just ready for the next chapter there without Trey? Like, how do you, you think we get to this point? And should I even consider that being tied together?
- [82:13]
F
Yeah, I think people are going to make that the argument, but I would say it's two total different things. I think of an edge rusher is. Edge rushers are a lot easier to handle in the sense of you can chip, you can, you can adjust protections, you can do a lot of things to take one single edge rusher and try to limit their impact. But when you're talking about interior push destroying guys in the run game, being able to create 100 something pressures over the last few years like this guy has done in his time as a New York Giant, like that's something you just can't do much about. He's getting double team and it doesn't matter. He's going to impact the interior of the defense and that offense is going to have to adjust for how they proceed with him there. I think that that's just a huge piece to. When you start to say, all right, let's look at how we can be better. I mean, we forget they have performed on offense. I mean, they lost games last year in just absolutely head scratching, frustrating ways because they can't get off the grass and defend on defense. When they have defended on defense. They went to a Super bowl and that was when DJ Reader and Trey and those guys were playing really well. And forget and don't forget, they didn't build that through the draft either. They built that through adding some free agents at a price and saying, we're gonna go spend some money, some veterans around here. And then the emergence of Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. And so you look at this now and you say, hey, where they were in the draft of the 10th pick, where are they going to get that superstar defensive player who without question is playing and playing a lot as a rookie? They, they were unsure if it was going to fall that way. This gives them a guaranteed football player, a guy who's going to impact the football game on the defensive side of the football in. Up front in the interior. Right now, they don't have any questions about that. So I think, to me, it gives them a guarantee. It makes them say, hey, let's go play some defense, let Joe Brewer do his thing, and let's get ourselves back in the Super Bowl. Don't forget where it is this year. They want to read, they want to redo.
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A
Yeah.
- [84:01]
F
They want to be back in sofa having an opportunity to win a Super bowl again.
- [84:05]
A
And Aaron Donald is the one that wrecked that, by the way. Play interior D lineman. Wrecked it for the Bengals. They would have had your ass. They would have had your ass. That little confetti moment with. That little confetti moment with your kids, which is like one of the most beautiful moments of all time. Never happens. Okay. Never happens. If it wasn't for Aaron Donald just blowing the entire play up seemingly out of nowhere from the middle of the defensive line. I the thought of Dexter Lawrence with Jamar Chase and T. Higgins now all of a sudden.
- [84:33]
D
Yeah.
- [84:33]
A
Now that we know Jamar and T. Higgins a little bit more. Okay. After the radio row appearance.
- [84:37]
B
Yeah.
- [84:39]
A
The fuck quarterback for the Bears name.
- [84:41]
I
Okay.
- [84:42]
A
That was Jamar Chase.
- [84:43]
B
Yep.
- [84:44]
A
It was the best. Dexter Lawrence, by all accounts is the best, right?
- [84:47]
D
Yes.
- [84:47]
A
And that kind of what the thing. I think there was a report that Harbaugh was not allowed to talk to Dexter Lawrence or something because the agent denied any conversation. I didn't even know that was allowed. But I think it's because Dexter Lawrence is like the best. Harbaugh could have gone in there, been like, hey, listen, this is boom, boom, boom. So I'm excited for that locker room maybe becoming electrifying as well over there. Go ahead, A.J.
- [85:08]
J
yeah.
- [85:08]
G
As no lineman, a guy that you played with, Geno Atkins, I was with you for one year in Cincinnati. I remember there's times in practice an interior D lineman. Geno would shut practice down. They'd have to take him out because the guy was so disruptive. I'm just curious, with Dexter Lawrence, is that something you're looking for from him in the interior? And how. How tough can it be for an offense when you have a guy that interior that gets a great push on pass plays, but also is impossible to
- [85:31]
A
move in the run game?
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F
Yeah. I mean, look at it too, really. You look at what Baltimore lost this year and Tyler Lindenbaum in the center up front. You look at really the Steelers trying To figure themselves out up front who their group's going to be in the Browns as well. So when you say, hey, we're going to go add a dominant force in the interior. And don't forget Cincinnati situation. It's all about all the other pieces that matter, too. Two young linebackers going into their second year. Now they're going to have an absolute stud playing in front of them. How's that going to impact them and be able to play at a high level. You've brought in a lot of other free agents, whether it be in the secondary or boy Mafe. So another edge rusher. Now this frees you up in the draft to go. All right, we probably need another secondary guy. Let's look at some interior help in the offensive line because Dalton Risner is only in a one year deal. The rest of your line looks to be together for the future years. And then you know what is there? That dynamic edge rusher on third down that we can get. Because here's the reality of Trey Hendrickson. He's a hell of a player, but here's the truth. He is ranked at the top of the group when it comes to sacks and pressures of the quarterback. No doubt. But let's go look where he's ranked in the run game in all those years as well. And it ain't up to the top. So my point is, is that you're talking about a guy who, yeah, he put up a lot of numbers. I played against a guy like that. I would compare him to in Arizona and Chandler Jones, lot of statistical things. Hey, gonna create a lot of sacks, he's gonna get some pressures on the quarterback, but you know what else you can do? You could run the football right at him all the time, anytime you want. So when you're dictating the terms on defense, that's the reality. And so to me, I think when you talk about a guy like Dexter Lawrence, you're talking about all three downs. How can we affect it? How can we go get maybe a guy in this draft that's an electric pass rusher who can come on the field on third down and impact us there, while we also have the interior push of Dexter Lawrence? That's just the reality. Trey's a hell of a player. Is he a guy you want in a closing situation? No doubt about it. If you're up in a game and you want to get off the grass, that's who you want rushing the quarterback. But when you're talking about a defense that's been 30th in the NFL, it's been dead last. I think they're trying to figure out how do we put all the pieces together that help us be a total defense, not just one that can win on third down and eight when we need to go get a sack.
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A
I love that you said they are trying to figure out there as opposed to we because of the tweet. But then at the end, you know, you spoke as we as a Bengal fan. I think anytime you build up the trenches, you know, Jerry Jones kind of said it whenever he traded away Micah. Now is it going to be end up being true with Micah up at Green Bay? I doubt it. That offense or that defense, obviously he was in on like every single play. Yeah, but Jerry said like, we got to be able to stop the run. Maka Michael is not stopping him. Call him the wrong name.
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B
Yep.
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A
Then he said that you need to be able to stop the run. That's a very real thing, especially in this NFL right now. You know, right now it seems to matter more than ever, which is why I think the trenches are going to be spotlighted more than ever. There's some interesting decisions being made with young guys or just being hypothesized that are seemingly easy. I don't know if that's the case. Go ahead, Tone.
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D
Yeah, Big wit. It's draft week, and when you look at the top for tackles, it's Maui, Noah and Fo, both right tackles in college. And a lot of people have their third right tackle as Blake Miller or, sorry, third tackle overall. Blake Miller is a right tackle as well. But then some of the teams at the top, they need left tackles. How do you feel about guys who are very, very talented? Can they make the move to left tackle? And then also like the Lions, depending on who they take, have talked about moving soul over to left tackle as well. How hard is that as a tackle to move from the right side to left side or vice versa?
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F
I think when you're talking about coming from college to the NFL, not as big a deal as long as you don't have something where the guy's got an injury or a limitation where he can't sweep feet. I think that the biggest thing though is when they get to the NFL, you know, you don't want to toy it that much. It's. It's too. You know, everything becomes too nuanced. It becomes. You got to be so elite at it that you don't want to be flipping all the time. I think it's one of the craziest Things ever. Watching Tristan Worfs and pen of the last few years being able to do that, like, I. I just was one of those people, literally left side. Once I started playing it, that's all I could do. You know, the athletes those guys are, it just shows by their ability to do it. I just think once you get to the NFL, it's a tougher thing. To me, I just don't know a lot of guys who flip side to side who are your elite players. And if I want an elite guy, I want to find the side I want him to be on and I want him to become a lead at it. And so I think drafting them, the draft, I don't get over the concern about. Especially when you're talking about those guys, you're talking about some guys that have all the skill sets possible to play the positions, each one of them, and whether it be their size, their athleticism, the length, all those things. So really it's about, hey, what's the guy we're the most comfortable that I'm sure they've seen a move and they say, hey, this is the guy we're the most comfortable be able to move over there. And that may be why they lean to one of them over the other, because they feel like they can get over there, take the kind of kick sets they want, play with the balance and the position, and they see the most upside and then be able to flip over and be the same guy.
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A
See, I'm only a left tackle.
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F
Yeah, I get me too, Pat. I just can't. I know. Athleticism. Yeah, right kick.
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A
Well, you also played guard from my understanding. Right. And you said it was the easiest thing you've ever seen because people just running into you or whatever the case, laughing.
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F
That was big Raiders ice cream era. That was a big graders black raspberry chip. You know it. That was a big year. I was 365 then, so almost £100 from where I am now. So it. It was. It was a big. That was a big boy. I was big wit for sure then. That's when Justin Smith. You talked about the wwe. Justin Smith at that time used to call me the Big Show. That was actually my nickname.
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A
Well, it's the Witch Show.
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F
That's it, baby.
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A
I know. I saw your wrestling aspirations at that league meeting. League risotto. I'll tell you what.
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G
Look good.
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A
Yeah, I should have been preparing right there because I would take some lethal shots just a few weeks later, you know, wait, I would have.
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F
I would have had you back, Pat.
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A
Exactly.
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F
I got you, baby.
- [91:22]
E
It's too late now.
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A
You were too busy Twitter fingering with Cincinnati. Yeah, that's what you were doing. You were doing the whole.
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J
I've been in Ruby, bro.
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F
I dropped it.
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A
Yeah, I dropped the ball.
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F
That's on me. That's on me.
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A
Well, good news is you'll never miss it again because I'm out of the business forever. That's right. Okay. Speaking of business forever. And we just talked about, you know, guys that are tall, athletic, have all the things to make. There's a guy that's been doing it a long time just got rewarded again. They're talking goat conversations. Go ahead, con man.
- [91:47]
C
Yeah, with. Pat's talking about Trent Williams getting that two year, $50 million extension with the Niners so he can go back. We've kind of seen Brock Purdy and the Niners without Trent Williams, and clearly they're affected whenever he's not on the field. Is he kind of the greatest left tackle of all time? Where do you kind of put him? And also, what does just having that kind of stalwart at the left tackle do for your entire team? Because we've seen, you know, Trent Williams pregame against the Cleveland Browns when they're going to throw down and fight, and then Trent walks over and then everything kind of stops. What does he mean for this team? And. And where do you kind of see him ranking on the all time list?
- [92:27]
F
You know, I actually made this point on Thursday Night Football this year. I actually think Trent, in my opinion, has really. He's. He's put himself there as the all time great. I really do. And listen, Anthony Munoz was a mentor of mine and somebody I've looked up to my whole life. The man he is, the player he was, he was so generationally ahead of his time. It was un. He was an unbelievable player and to me has held that for a long, long time. But I think what Trent has been able to do, not just in the run game, not just in the past game, in the screen game, the athlete, he is out in space. I mean, dbs, and especially now that they can't go low and try to take out the legs and they have to stay up with this freak of nature. Exactly. Sherman. I argue about it all the time. And Trent, it's unfair. I mean, it really is unfair. I think he is without question the greatest athlete and impact left tackle in the history of the game. I mean, I think that, to me, when you really look at all three levels of what you're asked to do and Then you talk about consistency, longevity, ability, availability, and adapting to today's game and every version of the game he's had to play through. He's the greatest, to me, of all time, and he submitted himself as that.
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A
As a guy who's going to be a Hall of Fame left tackle. That is very cool to hear you say, by the way. Way that humility, but also the reasoning on why we should maybe view him as the greatest of all time as well. I appreciate the hell out of that, Whit. Now, I will say after seeing you at the league meetings and I. I told you this. I do think I could. Maybe I do.
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F
No chance.
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A
You saw my.
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B
Get off.
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A
You saw it. You felt it, didn't you? You did feel it a little bit. With you 265.
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J
I'm close.
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F
I could get too good a shape. Hey, Pat, my. My insurance goes out this year, so I'm thinking about pulling a. You know, I think I'm gonna join Rivers and. And be full of Philip Rivers. I'm gonna get my five years of insurance back this year. Maybe I'm trying to get.
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A
How many games?
- [94:19]
F
You gotta give me a shot, baby. Bring the big show back.
- [94:22]
A
How many games do you have to play to get that? Just one.
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F
I think you just gotta be on one.
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A
I mean, come on.
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F
Let's go, McVeigh.
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A
Come on, man. Please get one game.
- [94:30]
F
Shanahan. Let me come be the right tackle for a week. I don't know. Come on, guys. I know the system.
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A
Does it count for practice squad? Because they got vets on practice squad now since co. Remember Covid. They opened up.
- [94:39]
F
I think you got to be. You got to be on the roster for a game. I think that. I think that's the thing.
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C
Don't even have to play.
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A
You can get it.
- [94:44]
F
I got a lot of kids. I mean, we need this. Come on, guys.
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A
I think it seems pretty easy. Just put you on a roster for cut and dry. Yeah, just. And we should start doing this. Every team should negotiate in an extra roster spot to bring in a veteran for a week, you know, to keep up their insurance. Give a speech. I assume you'll give a speech. Yeah, I assume. Yeah. Route. You do the entire. Yeah, absolutely. Maybe show team, too. You know, get some reps in with the helmet on, get some pictures. He was really there mixing it up, you know, that whole thing. Do you think you could. Because I. When I was looking at, you see, I. I was on the same team as Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis. Okay? So I. Yeah, I don't I don't
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F
want to do that.
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A
Yeah, no, but I understand the chess game of this attire. So when I saw you, you know, I'm gonna try to speed you. I'm gonna try to speed you right now. Get you thinking you're going out there. You're 265 right now. Now I think I'm going.
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C
Yeah,
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A
I think I'm going long.
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E
He's got short arms.
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A
Short arms. Yeah, yeah, I'll be able to get that. I'll be able to get that hand right there. Right. Don't you think that'll be.
- [95:46]
F
That hand will never touch me.
- [95:48]
A
What?
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F
You wouldn't even make contact to be passed. Yeah, I got 36 and a half inch arms. I don't. I don't think you gotta. Longarm would not be the road I would go if I was gonna go any road, I would not go that one.
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A
We'll fill it out. It's chess game.
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B
Yeah, exactly.
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C
Last thing he'd expect.
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A
Yeah, exactly. So, yeah, there you go. Who knows what happens with C2 here. C3, C4, you know.
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J
Yeah.
- [96:13]
F
I was gonna say watching you run to the ring, little vertical in the stride. If you think you're gonna long.
- [96:20]
A
I think we'll have a doctor on at 205 Eastern. By the way, Dr. David Chow.
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B
Okay, perfect.
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A
Okay, let's. Let's get the pass rushing. Go ahead, D. But yeah, Armleth is
- [96:30]
E
actually kind of part of this conversation. Always is a draft season. But with the top rushers in this year's draft, you got Reuben Baines Jr. You got David Bailey. You got Reese. Bailey's the more polished one. Reese. That's the potential. Maybe the next Michael Parsons and then Bane. Dog in the past game. Dog in a run game. But the arm lift is a question as a tackle. Which one of these young guys do you see having the most success early on? And they're probably having the best career as it goes.
- [96:56]
F
Yeah, I mean, I think when you get into the arm league conversation, I mean, it's really just like I've told you guys before, when it comes to tackles, it's about what's their strategy outside of that, how do they execute those things in the game, Whether it be being able to get hands off of them, being able to rip and do some of those things. I mean, you look at a guy like Micah Parsons, people don't even realize. I mean, he barely uses his arms. He's just so good at being able to manipulate his body, you know, much like really good receivers who could you don't get hit hard very often. Micah Parsons is really good at being able to dodge and dip and kind of slip all the different hands that he gets from tackles. He's really able to do that at extremely high level, you know, whereas you had like, guys like Aaron Donald, who didn't have some crazy arm length, but for his size, he had decent Armstrong, but he was unbelievably strong and good at getting your hands off of him, be able to knock your hands off him. He had a plan all the time. We seen him fighting the knobs and everything else. So you got to become an expert at what it is that you think you need to be able to execute. And so when I look at those guys, I mean, I just think when you watch Bane play, man, choose the effort, the energy, the passion. Like, I just, it feels like a guy that you're like, man, inevitably this guy's gonna figure it out one way or another because it just seems like he has a motor that's different. And that's something to me that means a lot. But, you know, obviously I think Bailey, some of those guys have some rare top end talent where, you know, you gotta see him rush, I think at the NFL level to really know, because to me, I, I want to see your ability where you look in college a lot of times it's like, man, they beat him with speed, the guy flips his hips, it's over. You know, they, they go dip underneath or go underneath the guy. Like, that's not going to be NFL tackles. They're going to be in front of you and you're going to have to have counter answers to all your things that you think you're going to be able to do. And so really be able to see them, their rookie year, their ability to adapt and counter or be an expert at that one thing they do. We think of Jared Verse, you know, really coming onto the scene with his power, then he's going to have to adapt. We've seen last year not as much of an impact at times because he's going to have to adapt who he is and how he plays. And so I think when you look at these guys, their ability to adapt and their ability to develop counters is really going to dictate how good they're going to be at the next level.
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A
Can't wait to see the next group of super freaks out there. I mean, it's every single. That's why Trey Hendrickson in that Ravens jersey that debuted this weekend.
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B
Oh, yeah.
- [99:13]
A
That's just not what what you expect? No, it's a little bit of a surprise.
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E
Looks like a Raven if I ever seen one.
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A
That's a tough. That's a tough position. That's a tough. You got to be so explosive, so strong, so fast. Just.
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F
That's my least favorite day ever. The uniform day, the picture day. Like, you know, just, no, thank you. Look, no, thank you.
- [99:32]
A
8K cameras. Now they got 8K camera.
- [99:35]
F
Scream at the camera. Give us a rah rah so we can show you in the stadium. The fans up. Like, I don't give a damn. Just play. Let's just play the game. I don't want to do this.
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A
One of my favorites.
- [99:45]
F
That was my day. I was. No, I was not part of that day. That was one of my favorite selfish wit day.
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A
I appreciate that you backed out of those. Genuinely. They only asked me to do it twice and they said, give me your football face. I said, all right, I'm not doing this. And I was never invited back.
- [100:02]
E
You didn't give him a good football face face?
- [100:04]
A
No, I said, I don't know what that means. I. I genuinely don't know what that means. He's like, you know, like a football face. I was like, okay, I know what.
- [100:12]
F
Quarterbacks can look cool. Receivers can kind of like show the ball and flash it. Running backs can kind of do the Heisman. Like, as a lineman. What's a cool stand? A picture of you. Like, I'm in a kick set. Like, that's cool and intimidating. Like, no, thank you.
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A
I guess that is.
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F
I don't get stance for anybody. Damn it.
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A
Well, and also, I'm not getting a
- [100:31]
F
three point stance for a photo, though.
- [100:33]
A
Three point stands. Belly button on some of the offensive linemen, too, with the way the jersey is, especially if you're moving like this. I think you got to do a yell, right? You probably always had to do a.
- [100:44]
F
Oh, you got a scream. Yeah, you got to give a roar. No, thank you.
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A
Any pause for the Bengals?
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F
I mean, if they go. If they go white unis, you're totally screwed. Oh, yeah, that's a tough look for o lineman. Elevator buttons, bellies. I mean, we got it.
- [100:59]
A
Oh, we got to think about this for Thursday night. There's gonna be so many, many stupid videos that these guys forced to shoot. Oh, hey, look, have fun. You just got drafted. Dream come true. People behind the camera trying to work it. Yeah, they're standing there and then they do the full 360. Let's do a full 360 view of this guy spinning a Football, doing the casual thing, I mean, that's what's coming on Thursday. There's gonna be a lot of big boys, allegedly. Go ahead, Ty. Last question.
- [101:26]
B
Yeah, Whit, I think it was probably like five years ago where everyone was saying that O linemen in college just weren't as good or weren't as ready to come into the NFL with the way the college game has changed. But over the last several years, we've had runs in the first round. We'll rule out, we'll have 10 plus O linemen get drafted. Do you think that's a byproduct of guys being a little bit more, you know, a little bit better now and more ready to come in and play right away? Or is it just that, as we've seen, like it is impossible to kind of keep the same guys on your offensive line and you need to have at least, you know, eight to 10 bodies in that room who are capable because it's just impossible to stay healthy throughout the course of a season.
- [102:04]
F
Yeah, I mean, you look at this draft, I mean they're talking anywhere six to seven guys going in the first round. So this is one of the more talented groups, you know, as I've talked to some guys across the league then in years past. And so I, I think really one of the things that's happened is, is that in, in the O line world, outside of the NFL, outside of college football, whether it be see, you know, la, Charles Bentley or Duke Mayweather or any of those guys that are training guys, you're starting to have these facilities.
- [102:30]
A
Yep.
- [102:30]
F
Oh yeah. AQ's now doing it. I saw that, like you got a lot of these guys that are now specifying in training guys outside of all of that. And so I think that's really what's had to happen. I mean, I used to have this argument all the time with the league when they would come talk at our seminars about the flag football push. Like, I love getting more people involved in football, but like if we're going to eliminate practices and preparation at the NFL level, so linemen are getting less of those and then also at a younger level, we encourage everyone else to play the non padded version of football. Like where are we ever going to get lineman development? So at the earth at the beginning stage and at the ending stage, we're going to eliminate your ability to prepare to become a lineman. So where do you want them to develop from? And so they're one of the biggest part of our game. They're what separates our game and makes it different. And so to me, I think what's really happened is you've seen some guys be able to specialize in training offensive linemen, give them a home, somewhere to go in the offse, somewhere to develop in high school and junior high and in college, outside of just their facility to go develop those skills that it takes to be ready. And I think that you're starting to see now the impact that's having. You're having more and more guys are able to come in, play early and be successful. And I think we're starting to see a little less of that dip that we kind of felt there through those years. Because I think you've seen some guys come in and play really well as young linemen. So I'm excited about that. And I think that's only going to continue to grow because I think that's something a lot of guys that are former players are getting into and really seeing that this is a big part of this thing now with the nil money, with everything else. Now even linemen are making money in college, which is crazy, right? So, you know, that's the truth. Where there's money being given to players, there's going to be people out there trying to create a business that they can get some of it. So I think that to me now you've seen the development of offensive linemen off outside of just their facilities and their teams is. Is growing and so is the impact it's having on us having more productive guys being available in the draft.
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A
I love the explanation. It makes sense because the drills that you have to do are strenu this. They are hard. They suck.
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F
Only position in the world plays the back to the ball at all times, Pat.
- [104:32]
A
Not only that, also somebody trying to break your back every single play. Hand to hand combat.
- [104:40]
F
None of the movements linemen do are like athletic movements you do as a kid, like nobody doing any of that stuff. So it's. The one thing about it is it's not just like you're, you know, I'm not saying it's some crazy athletic movement. What I am saying is it's something you have to retrain your entire body to do do because it's not something you did growing up. Most of those body positions, most of the things it takes to anchor and everything else have to be learned over time. And it's not something you did growing up as an athlete for most players. So it takes a while. You know, you go with that thing of how many reps you get and how many opportunities you have to do something. It takes a while to develop those skill sets, and so I think it's something very unique, and you can't get it by just training with anyone. You need people who are putting you in those positions over and over again. And I think that's the biggest development is that in strength training and on the field, we're seeing people adjust movements to what linemen specifically do, and that's helping them develop.
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A
I love that. It's good for the game, because when they dip, the game dips. We dip. You know what I mean? And that. That we can't be dipping anymore. Okay. We got to be striving, especially for greatness, with the boys bumping up front. I do like that you shouted out the shipyard there. Okay? The shipyard's getting at. All those drills suck. They all suck to do. They're all hard. They're all miserable. They're not fun. But I'll tell you what. At the end of the. The road is a very green pasture. Centers are getting 30 million now.
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B
Yeah.
- [106:02]
A
You know, this is. The game is going, so I'm excited for it. We appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen, super bowl champ Cincinnati Bengal, and LA Ram legend LSU Tiger at heart Andrew Whitworth. I'll say we went around. I want.
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G
Damn right.
- [106:18]
A
I'm talking. Why are you guys attacking him? Because he doesn't live in Ohio anymore. He lives in Los Angeles, and he gets. Son, don't. Don't.
- [106:24]
G
Don't lump me in with the people that are attacking him. No, Whit is like, you know, he was the man there, and he still is the man, I think, anytime he goes back.
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A
No, he. He felt obligated to explain himself.
- [106:36]
G
Bengals number 10 sitting in the red suite with Neil Armstrong. We could have really nailed down on that and say, hey, did you, Neil?
- [106:42]
F
No.
- [106:42]
G
Did you. You really. Do you think you actually really went to the moon?
- [106:45]
B
Yeah. If you wanted to get slugged in the face. Because that's usually how Neil Armstrong deals
- [106:49]
C
with that, because he knows it's not true.
- [106:51]
A
I'm genuinely flustered about it all.
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G
What do you mean?
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D
How crazy it is.
- [106:56]
A
Like, we're celebrating it hard here in 2026, as we should. I can FaceTime with my daughter When I'm wherever I could be In a place with no service. Okay. Somehow I can open my phone. It can have a little glimmer of hope somehow, and I can FaceTime with my daughter. That type of advancement in technology is outlandish to think about back in the day, and we were celebrating big time. That Artemis 1 upper. Oh, yeah.
- [107:21]
C
Well, they made that phone call too, back then, right?
- [107:24]
D
They had. They had phones. Yeah.
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C
To the moon.
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A
So they had to do the.
- [107:29]
B
Yeah, the rotary. Yep.
- [107:32]
D
Not NASA.
- [107:35]
A
We didn't have to. But on that note, way to. We do it back there in 1969.
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B
That's right.
- [107:39]
A
That's incredible.
- [107:40]
B
Yeah, it is.
- [107:40]
A
Think about how incredible that had to be in 1969. Kid me, that's like whenever somebody just first created like electricity, who did that with the key? Ben Franklin. Yep, there it is. Think about how pumped they were when they found out that they didn't have to just use the fire stuff. Like we can actually.
- [107:52]
D
I mean, it won a war. Like they got to the moon and
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F
it won a war.
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A
Yeah. The cold war you're referring to. Yeah, I'm pumped we won that. Yeah, I'm certainly pumped. But they even had to think to themselves over there, there, like, really? The moon, that's really far. Holy. They were just kind of like captivated by it. They had to be.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
Good for us.
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B
And having like the foresight for Neil Armstrong to be like, you know what, I'm gonna bring my golf bag up here smart. So I can, you know, tee this up and hit like that, you know, I mean, I love that. I love that. Hey, I know there's a lot of important in here. I need. I got a nice golf bag. I need that thing to be total, like, you know, in good shape. When we get up there, I want to flush a four iron off the dark side of the moon. I love that.
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A
And that's how sports ties into this.
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B
Exactly.
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A
And that's why we always have to talk about it. Because sports were represented. They were in outer space at the moon. Join us. Now, ladies and gentlemen, is a man who represents sports in a beautiful way. We're so thankful that he is now becoming basically full time analyst on ESPN for the NBA. Especially in the middle of this beautiful NBA playoff run that started with the bunch of boring ass games.
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F
Y.
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A
And don't look now. More bores on the way.
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F
Oh, no.
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A
Or is it boring? Maybe we just don't know enough. Joining us now, NBA champion, ladies and gentlemen, Iman Shumper. What's up? Sh.
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J
My guys, what's going on?
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A
What do you got?
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J
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if it was boring. I don't know if it was boring. We saw a lot of good stuff out there. I don't know if it was boring.
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A
Okay, so you're Saying a lot of good highlights, a lot of good plays by the good teams, even though the good teams are beating the bad teams, except for the Pistons. Let's talk about that right there. What happened with Detroit? I know you were high up on Detroit, obviously, whenever the Hornets were, when the Hornets were going to potentially get their spot, you actually said Hornets. That's fun. That's fun story. That's a cute story. The Pistons were waiting on them, though. Now I felt like the same type of energy was being had with the Orlando Magic. Is this a bad matchup for the Pistons? What happened here?
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J
Not at all. I think that the Orlando Magic have answered whatever issue that we've had with them. Everybody was questioning them. Everybody was pointing fingers at them. The thing about the Magic that I like so much right now is most times when they're challenged in the media, guys are challenged. Guys are challenged by their coach, they all crumble. I think they came together and they accepted the challenge. They have come out and they've played passionate. They have played together. They have played with a willingness to communicate. You see their defense going up, and that's what I pay attention to. I pay attention to all the bright spots they have. And then at the end of the game, they got Franz Wagner, who decided, you know what, if Paulo Ben Caro can't figure it out in these crucial times, I know I can figure it out. And at the end of that game, they played through him and looked like a totally different team. It will be interesting to see if game two, they do the same things and go to Paolo Ben Carroll early on. Let Bane kind of, you know, determine how the games go after that. And then at the end, go to their closer in Wagner because they look like a totally different team when he had the ball in his hands playing from the top.
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A
Okay, so if we had to give a alert level for pistons fans from one to 10, one being a. No worries here. It's a serious. Don't even worry about the first game. If anything, you're the number one seed. Detroit has a history of having massive success in the postseason. So don't even worry about what just happened there in game one. 10 being a. This is not good. This could be a problem if this is what the Magic are going to be doing. If you were a Detroit Pistons fan.
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J
Well, I'm a Bulls fan, but I would say that they have about. They have about. I say a five because this could be one of two things. Detroit was sitting at home, you know, not feeling like there's much anything to do right now. You know, you get stuck in that root of waiting on the playoffs. You're excited, but there's no game. So you kind of lose a bit of rhythm. Them looking at a guy like k Cunningham, you're not sure how it's going to go for him. You're looking at the rhythm, you're looking at the steps. The Magic looked like a team that just got done playing, that just got done with all those reps and repetition. They've been in closing matches. They've had the game where they feel like, ah, we didn't come out particularly well in that first play in game, but this second game, we really got to take it up a notch. They felt like this matchup is for them. I think they jumped on them early and they did what all teams do. Two, which is you're supposed to go on the road and steal one. What Detroit has to worry about is saying, hey, we cannot let them steal two. Stealing two changes the series. I think stealing one, I kind of expected them to not. I expected Detroit to close this one out. I'm not going to lie. Wagner e e definitely surprised me toward the end. I expected Detroit to close this out, but I would be nervous to say. I don't want the Orlando Magic to say we figured out the recipe for the end of games because at the end of game, sometimes they don't close well. If they start playing through Wagner, I think it changes things a lot.
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A
Okay, Detroit is at a 5 panic meter and Iman Shumpert's eyes, How's that make you feel, Fox? He feels like you were okay with the five.
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H
I'll take a five all day because I was at a ten for sure. As a fan, I watched that game and I said the Magic were supposed to be a top 1, 2, 3 seed at the beginning of the season and they played like ass all regular season. I'm like, did they figure it out? Is that team back and is that who we're playing right now as an 8 seed? That's a problem. But Iman says 5. I'm good with that.
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A
What was the stat on how I'm only ahead? Sean?
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J
I'm only saying. I'm only saying that five because you got to think K's coming back. He's still finding his way. He took a couple of tough shots that I felt like not. Not what he usually does. He kind of was forcing the issue a little bit more than I've seen him do in the past. But his is all about rhythm. As we look at at it. The thing that I was nervous about with the Pistons was the legs, the pop, the exaggerated defensive closeouts. You didn't see that out of the Pistons yesterday. And I think that's all to do with them. Just not having a game for a
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A
week seems like an 8 or 9 panic meter in my eyes, but I'm not an NBA champion. Our conversation with Iman Shumpert continues digitally on YouTube, ESPN Plus, Disney plus tick tock live and X. We can't thank you enough for live allowing us to do this for a living. Be a friend. Tell friend something nice Might change your life. Goodbye. I've. Hey, I'm gonna tell you, fresh out of WrestleMania with whatever's going on with my neck. I was too fast for my own good earlier. Saw that hitting that radar on the screws. Yeah, that one felt pretty good.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Iman, I don't know if you saw. I mean, we just. I. I mean, right. I mean, that.
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B
That was a hanging curveball.
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J
Yeah.
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A
Right there. Fresh out of what just happened with this. Yeah, I'm pretty proud of myself. Okay, so you're not that panicked about Detroit? I like to hear that. And hopefully the Pistons will win for your sake, because Orlando Magic fans. I don't even think they were Orlando Magic fans during the playing game. So the fact that you guys are about to get beat by them, potentially, that's. That's a sad state of affairs up there in Detroit. I don't like it.
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H
Just need the young guys to step up. That's all this is. Young team. Need the young guys to go.
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A
All right. Number one overall seed. That's incredible news. Let's stay in the East. Let's go to the state of Ohio. AJ Has a question for you. Sean.
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J
Yeah.
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G
Cavs up one. Nothing. They play tonight against the Raptors. And with the addition of James Harden, I guess. What have you seen from him? You know, they acquire him earlier this year. What have you seen from this Cavs team with Harden? Obviously, we know what they're able to do with Mitchell and the other talent around him, but what are the chances of this Cavs team going on a run?
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J
I like the Cavs. I think they're just in a tough position dealing with the top of the East. Boston and Detroit just scare me on their schedule. The New York Knicks scare me on their schedule. They have matchups that they can win, win. But when I look at the Cavs, I just see a Donovan Mitchell that is benefiting so much from James Harden. And it's not just when James Harden James Harden rewards him with an assist. It's not just when he comes off of a ball screen. It's sometimes it's just the attention that James Harden commands when he has the ball or he's on the floor. Allows people to have to be in a single coverage a lot of the time against Donovan Mitchell, even if just for two dribbles. Donovan Mitchell is extremely dangerous if left in single coverage where you have something else to worry about because it's a. It becomes a pick your poison type of situation. I think James Harden is also doing a great job in pitching ahead and making people dangerous earlier on in the shot clock before getting it back, which makes you always have to deal with him in a closed out situation, which we've seen doesn't benefit anybody. When he goes to that dribble package and wants to get up quick. Three, three or a three that can potentially land in somebody getting another foul and a four point play. I really like them. It's just the top of the east is tough and the top of the east is tough defensively with multiple people that can guard in the backcourt. Right now what you're seeing is James Harden and Donovan Mitchell may be too much for the Toronto backcourt.
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A
Okay, let's talk about the top of the east and the backcourts. You were at the Knicks game, I heard courtside, we're on the wood at your bottom and wood. You were bopping wood at the game. I heard.
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J
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was there, man. Shout out to the New York Knicks, man. Organization always take care of a former players, man. It was a good game.
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A
Yeah. I mean, I got canceled out of courtside tickets over there at Madison Square Garden directly from the top, which I completely understand and respect and appreciate. But you were there. Boots on the ground, obviously on the wood. What do you think about this? Next thing we got a real deal because whenever they're playing the Pacers last year, that guy right there, Jalen Brunson there, there would become just like periods where it felt like it was an hour and a half of my life where I'd see that guy with the ball. He wouldn't miss. Just like refuse to miss, basically. How do you feel about this Knicks team maybe making a run this year again?
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J
I like it. I told everybody early on in the season that I felt like the New York Knicks had the East. It didn't seem like anybody else had anything that, that, you know, screamed on their roster that they should be doing this. The Boston Celtics were a pleasant surprise. The Detroit Pistons were A pleasant surprise. But we all looked at the Knicks, especially with that run that they made last year and all the decisions and moves that they made to put that team together. They are built to win the east and there was a lot of pressure on them. The reason I enjoyed watching them is because Jalen Brunson got off to a quick start. He then controlled flow and made sure to share the sugar. I thought he, he picked a lot of spots to just turn down. Moments that we're used to seeing him aggressive moment that we're used to seeing him take 20 and 30 dribbles in one possession and forcing the issue a little bit more. But he deferred. They kept running that blast action, getting Cat involved on that pinch post, letting two cutters go by. You know, Cat overthrew a couple of them. But you saw him throwing that late pass down the lane to a lot of guys and getting guys involved. And I felt like when he stayed involved within direct action, it led to him having enough rhythm at the end to say, hey, I could turn it on. Which is where you saw him get to his mark scoring the ball. But the Knicks playing to their ability right now, I just think at the end of games we need to be able to trust in that two man game. There's times that they don't score well together and I just want to make sure that at the end of games we don't go away from that. Because once you have a two man game where everybody knows it's coming, coming, you gotta then raise the question, can anybody stop it?
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A
Iman's saying, hey, let's not get stupid here like we do every single year.
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J
Okay, here we go.
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A
Let's continue to. Okay, they say you get tired, but I say we're not running too many. We don't have any threat of anything down the stretch, basically. So that's what you're saying right now? Basically, yeah.
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J
I think it really comes down to X's and O's. The Knicks play hard enough to keep themselves in the conversation. It's always a 2, 3 possession game that the stretch. There's never, rarely do you see them just give up and lay down. The Knicks go out there and they compete and that's, you know, half the battle. They, they're, they're not great defensively, but they're still sound. I think they make a lot of moments up that, you know, other, other teams have shot blockers that, you know, in a higher frequency. I think Mitchell Robinson is just, you know, dealing with some tough stuff right now. They already started to hack a, hack a Robinson early, you know, just to get him out the game. But that's all. It all comes within strategy. I think that the Knicks just really need to just, you know, relax in the pocket of saying, we're gonna hang our hat on the defensive end, which we knew they would. Dealing with their head coach and his history. You're gonna hang your hat on the defensive end. But if you're gonna lose at the end, you're gonna lose with your guys that you went to go get. It needs to be Jalen, Brunson and Kevin. You need to be able to put pressure on them and say, if we lose, we lost our way. And that's all I'm asking for.
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A
Good luck to the Knicks guys. Make it a long way and then fire your coach. Okay. And then the Pacers. Pacers. We were game seven of the finals. We're in a lottery now. It's a quick. Oh yeah, yeah. It is a quick.
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J
Oh yeah.
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A
It is a very real thing. So the fact that the Knicks are always in it, I think if I was a Knicks fan would make me excited. Bruce, who's a die hard Knicks fan, obviously excited for this team this year.
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G
It sounds like, oh yeah, much, much
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F
better than last year.
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A
Like we are much improved in the Mike Brown era.
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J
A lot of it is the X's and O's.
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A
Offensively, I think the Knicks were like 22 and 12 against winning teams this season. They were 12, 22 last year. And there was all that talk about
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J
how they can't, can't compete with the
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A
top of the NBA.
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J
You know, that narrative's out.
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A
We're, we're ready to roll. Let's go to the top of the east, shall we? Ty has a question for you.
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B
Yeah, Shump. So I know we're talking about the Knicks a lot and that's great, but I mean, you watch the Celtics and it looks like Tatum, you know, nothing ever happened to him. He's completely fine. He almost has a triple double the other night. Brown is doing what he's been doing all season. You got Luca Garza just absolutely filling up the bucket off the bench. And they just beat the out of the 76ers.
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J
Oh yeah.
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B
How like, I guess as if you're playing on the Celtics. How difficult is it to kind of of stay engaged in this series when you probably know you're just going to beat the shit out of them. You're kind of looking to who you have next. And ultimately, I mean, can anyone in the East Beat the Celtics. I know we're talking about the Knicks a bunch here, but just watching these guys play, it just seems like they are much better than everyone else in the Eastern Conference.
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J
Yeah, they, they definitely look head and shoulders above right now. I, I, I can't act like that. I don't feel the same. I think everything changes with a matchup. We expected them to look this way again against a Philly team that didn't feature Joel Embiid. We all understand why they beating the out of these people right now. It's not a lay down thing. It's not an X's and O's. They don't have they big brother around. It's easy to beat up on the little brother when the big brother ain't there. So that's what's happening right now. It's, it's not that the, the Celtics wouldn't already go out there and have their way. They, we forget that this team is built for success. This was the blueprint. This is what OKC meant. Mimicked saying we're gonna go 10 guys deep, we're gonna live and die by the three, but we're also gonna get up in pressure. Then they became the DNA. They became the blueprint. We'll see if they repeat. But Boston has always had the DNA of that. They'll switch players and they'll go get other players, but they usually get get players that mimic the way they play and they play the same way all the time. Anytime you play that consistent, it becomes incredibly difficult. Especially now that they have Tatum feeling like he's back into that superstar bounce. It was good to see him really lift off of that leg and really trust. He took a couple of long steps within traffic. Anytime I see him trust it like that. That's always a really good thing. As a Boston Celtics fan, how he
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A
has responded post Achilles has been spectacular to watch. Especially as somebody who has a quarterback who's going through an Achilles recovery who got done by the same doctor. I do believe that's great news for the Colts, but for the Boston Celtics, not only Tatum just picking right up where he left off. Missoula is a psycho. But also from my understanding, you guys brought in a secret weapon this late into the season. Connor.
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C
Yeah, last week Lethal Shooter came to town and you, you could say that he had a great effect because I don't think a basketball touched a rim on any of their shots in the first quarter. It was one of the most impressive displays of shooting I've ever seen.
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A
Iman is that you know, Lethal Shooter, obviously.
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J
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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A
How is he not on a team? And then also, is he. Is this coach. He literally went and coached the Celtics.
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C
Yeah, he was. He was there for those few days off after the end of the season.
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A
Okay. Can't wait to get him in here. Okay. Because we're never going to miss. Seemingly. But what is it? Is that a new specialty that people are co. Like, I've never seen a guy miss. I mean, first time. Then he understands it.
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B
Sure.
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A
Then. Then I see him.
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E
The Internet. All right, don't. Don't ask Shunk. Why is. Why isn't this guy in NBA? Come on now. We see a lot of gimmicks on the Internet.
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A
Don't you be laughing at Lethal Shooter either. Hold on.
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J
I like, now we can go look up lethal. You could go look up lethal in college.
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L
Now.
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J
He ain't no. Just. He ain't no. Just like. Oh, no. He. Oh, no. He got a real clip on him, though. Like, it's for real. Like, he could have went. He could have went. It's just like, you got to remember a lot of things in the city the. The NBA, There's a ton of guys that didn't make it because the situation didn't fit. It's like if they were to come out of college two years later, the league kind of changed, and they were a perfect fit. And some guys just missed it by a year, missed it by two years. It's a lot of different times that that happens. If somebody needed a shooter coming out of cop when he was coming out, if somebody really needed him and they gave him a shot, why can't he be a Anthony Morrow type player?
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G
Player.
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J
You know what I mean? You got to really think about it. Like, he's not one of those guys that I would call a Internet guy, because I know a bunch of guys that are Internet guys.
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A
Okay. Thank you, Lethal Shooter. Hell, yeah.
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C
Yes.
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A
And thank you for the years of entertainment and the ingenuity to make a shooting of basketball into something. It could be this. When he started debuting the spiked rim, oh, man. I was like, all these on decide, dude, this guy's gonna start doing something. Then him and Red Bull started doing some crazy shooting on the moon. I think he was in a helicopter at one point.
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C
Gummy bear.
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A
Yeah, Gummy bear.
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C
Yeah.
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E
I understand it now.
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A
You do? Yeah.
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J
I'm happy to hear that.
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A
I think the Celtics do, too, which is kind of an issue. Let's go to the west, shall we? Go ahead, Connor.
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C
Yeah. Sh. It felt like the one good series we were going to get was going to be Rockets Lakers and there was actually a video posted of Kevin Durant not missing in warm ups. And then the NBA sent someone to bang his knees so that Lucas could get back back sooner rather than later and kind of extend this series. Not sure what the hell happened there, but what did you see In Rockets, Lakers, LeBron back to his same old antics. I think he had 13 assists in Game 1, so he's dealing the ball as well. Do you see this one go in seven or once, you know, Luka gets back? Is this thing all she wrote?
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J
I don't know because I didn't. I honestly, I didn't expect even the three days in between games. I ain't gonna lie to you. It's a lot of stuff involved with seeing if we gonna see 77 put the jersey on. But I think it went exactly how I thought it would go. Okay to dare come out there without KD. I think off sheer disrespect alone, LeBron was going to ensure that. However it needed to get done, it was going to get done. Luke Canard came out there and played, you know, amazing having his playoff season high. I thought deandre Ayton got out there and got involved exactly how he should. Just be efficient, play around the rim, don't make any excuses, have some pep in your step. He went out there and gave us all we wanted to see. Marcus Smart went out there and did exactly what I feel like he's supposed to do in playoff form. He, he doesn't get a lot of credit for a lot of the intangible things that he does, but he does them. But the Lakers went out there and did what I thought they were going to do. I don't expect much out of Houston without KD out there. We saw how much their field goal percentage, their three point.
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A
Whoa. I, I heard that if LeBron beats this Houston team with what is currently set up for the Lakers, the goat discussion is over. Yeah, that's a perk said and now it's happening. Now we got a guy, Chicago Bulls jerseys all around his office. Okay. All over the place saying he's supposed to beat this team. He's supposed to be Houston. Talking about you. I'm talking about. Hello, I'm talking about you.
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J
I get it and I get it. Perk puts a lot of pressure on him. I get it, I get it. Hey man, it's all great for tv. If KD don't play against, if he don't play and bron will dog walk this. Like, all right.
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A
Okay, good.
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J
Oh, I'm being. I'm being. I'm being 100% serious, though. It's not gonna be like this dominating version of LeBron. But Bron's best attribute is his basketball mind. He does matchups better than anybody that we've seen, and that's from matching up as a team. Who gets to shoot on what side of the court, what percentages will work out in his head. That's what he's good at. So KD better get healthy. If KD's not healthy and Houston has to manufacture points in a brand new way that they haven't done done all year, when they've gotten comfortable doing everything at Sangu being the second option, like, we're not gonna still have that anymore. You telling me that people can now tilt and load up on my side of the floor and none of those driving lanes are available? I did not like what I saw out of Houston without Kevin Durant. And so if they're gonna put that pressure on Braun, I don't know how it makes them the goat. Michael Jordan is still bald with baggy shorts. It's cool. Don't even worry about that. But it is a very important series. When you break down that Kevin Durant just sat out the game. One, like, for Kevin Durant to sit out that game and give the Lakers a taste of just. It really just gave them a deep breath to take because I was worried they wouldn't even get a game. I thought they would just run them, run them, run them, run them, and they wouldn't get a game. KD sits out. It changes the things. It changes things.
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A
I hope KD is okay. Hope we get a good series out of that. And I'm appreciative of the fact that LeBron's a goat man. Hey, listen, I guess he's going to have to win five NASCAR races.
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B
Yeah, yeah, true.
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A
Hey, LeBron's going to have to win five now. Feels like Michael Jordan and his team are starting to figure out the NASCAR thing. Oh, yeah.
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B
He's got to win that deep sea fishing championship.
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A
True that. Yeah. With the marlin.
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K
Yep.
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A
I think you got to catch a big marlin out there. He's going to have to get a couple good golf courses, sell more, shoot golfer. Yeah, a lot more.
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C
A lot more shoes.
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A
Gonna have to sell a lot more shoes. But if he's just carrying the Lakers at the age of 41, oh, there's a real combo happening. All of a sudden, it seems like it's real.
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J
Oh, yeah, he's the best. He's the best. Far as the longevity of a career, being a professional on and off the court, of course. Yeah, yeah. I, I, he could eat a goat in a lot of different conversations. I totally understand. It's just, just that black, that, that, that black 23, man, that black 23 was different.
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A
Got a lot of his shoes here. I got a lot of his shoes here.
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J
Man, he was different.
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E
Man, he was different.
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A
Yeah, that's what they said. I was watching the Last dance, and he certainly was.
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J
It was different. But I, you know, I'm a Chicago kid who knows? I could have, you know, I could have grew up in Ohio and Braun would be the goat. I could have grew up in Detroit. Then Brown would have been the. You know what I mean? I hated on Kobe's greatness for the longest just because I wasn't from la. Then I realized I was the fan the whole time because I know way too much about Kobe Bryant to be acting like I'm not a fan.
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A
I do like how sports creates that, though.
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E
Oh, yeah.
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A
I mean, that's a real thing that happens in sports that doesn't happen anywhere else. So I appreciate our sports world more and more every day. Last dance, though. Iman, I think I could play in the NBA in, in whenever Jordan was playing. Okay. I want to let you know that I, I think I could play in that NBA. You give me six months, I think I could potentially get the handles to get into that NBA. We're only watching.
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J
Oh, no, man.
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A
Iman, they were dribbling. This was the best teams, right? All those things were all playoff runs, so those were the teams that were in the playoffs.
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J
So I'm assuming you think that's how Gary. You think that's how. That's how we beat Gary Payton. You think they was dribbling like that? You thought, you think Portland was dribbling like that?
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A
No. The bottom of the league.
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J
Utah.
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A
Utah.
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J
Utah was dribbling like that. John Stockton was dribbling like that.
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A
Okay.
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J
John Stockton was coming off the ball screen, putting nail and coping with Paul Malone. We wasn't even supposed to win that game. Carl Malone and John Stockton had me fearing for my life.
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D
Thank you, Sean.
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J
For my life.
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A
All right, I understand. I understand.
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J
Y' all go stop disrespecting. Old Sean Kemp was out here punishing
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A
people at the win, man. Bottom of the league. I'm talking worst team. I'm talking worst.
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E
Don't do that.
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F
Don't do that.
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J
Don't do that. Tanking teams in this league right now. Teams in this league right now. They trying to get college players. They betting on 8th graders. They're going to get 8th graders right now. They thinking about the freshman in high school saying, when is he gonna be available? They trading for that.
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A
That's what I'm saying.
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J
That's in the league.
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A
Every year.
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J
We had to beat, like, we not gonna act like the bulls. Why we always acting like the bulls? They had to do what they had. To beat magic. They like, oh, it was late magic.
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A
So, hey, congrats to the bulls. Congrats to the bulls. Thanks for what you did for basketball and michael jordan. Thank you for what you did to basketball. I would say we beat charles.
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J
We beat charles. Charles still mad about it.
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A
No. People throw that in charles's face all the time, though. I think that's probably why he does it.
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J
Ask charles. He pissed about it. He supposed to be a champion. Not for that ball guy, that. That two three over there. That what I'm saying. That's why we talk about this. Y' all talking about the bottom of the league. I don't care about the bottom of the league. It's the bottom.
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A
True. The top said michael. I mean, also kind of the international. I mean. I mean, for what's happening right now in the NBA. I had michael. Yeah, man. Pretty great.
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G
Hey, you.
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J
Seeing you in this neck brace is so concerned about, if I must say so myself. You can't be letting them do that to you, dog.
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A
Everybody seemed like everybody. Even on the way out, the fans were saying things that were making the injury worse.
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J
Oh, my lord. They went on my boy. Oh, they got my boy.
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A
It was a bad day. Sharks. You see that thing explode? Nobody. That table could have never guessed the jelly roll is gonna be coming on.
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J
Oh, my lord.
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A
Yeah, I got splunk.
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D
Of the three, which was the worst? Was the jelly or.
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A
Yeah, that one was. To be clear, none of them were.
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J
Or the rko.
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A
This was this. That guy just said something very rude to me, you know? And then I wondered about my mom watching at home and if she thought I was gonna be okay. So I was like, I gotta give her okay.
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D
Are those licensed parameters?
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J
There you go.
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A
Go. Say that's for everybody here. You know, Just one of those. That's coda. Yeah. Kota's a licensed las vegas paramedic.
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B
Okay. He's good, Fade.
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A
He was a good man. He talked me down a lot. And then he was the one that. Jesus, iman. Did you see that? You see
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G
so good.
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J
That's what I'm saying. Boy, that's a dangerous. Oh man.
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A
Yeah.
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J
Boy, that. I would have went on the stretcher after that one. That's the stretcher.
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A
That was before. That was right before. I mean that went right?
- [135:38]
J
You just got right up too, like. Yeah, that's. I'd have been. I'd have been asked for my neck brace and my stretcher.
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A
I didn't ask for anything. Iman. Okay. They sent out what they thought I needed and I'll get my scans back tomorrow. Thank you. Then I came down thinking like, think I could count? One, two, three. Look at Randy. That's. My God. That's Saturday night. He won. That's Saturday night, Randall.
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J
Oh, man.
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A
Yeah. Then I went. I'll tell you what though. I didn't let it slow me down afterwards, did we?
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E
No, not at all.
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A
I went and gambled. I played a lot of blackjack. I went to a nightclub. I felt like a 95 year old man in a nightclub once. Saw 50. We had a good time watching. It was like a trip back in time.
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D
Tyrese looks like he's time.
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A
Tyrese was having a good time. I will say Tyrese was having his wrestlemania. Yeah, he was good.
- [136:27]
J
You said that's fine.
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D
Do you guys have shingles now?
- [136:29]
E
I've never.
- [136:30]
A
No, that's not how that works. Actually. I'm not sure. We will. We will find out. Tyrese. You're in on Tyrese?
- [136:36]
E
Oh yeah. Never been more in on Halle. Kidding me.
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F
Absolutely.
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A
He had a great performance.
- [136:40]
J
Oh yeah, he had a great performance.
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A
I will say through. All through multiple settings. Tyrese had a great performance in all of them.
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B
Would have been nice if Kittle would have just let him drink that beer.
- [136:50]
A
Well, kiddo and him working a gimmick right there too.
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B
I like they were.
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A
Kiddo had a lot of beers.
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D
I would say good stuff.
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A
Yeah. Kiddo had a lot of beers. I will say. He's coughing. He's thirsty. Is that what he's selling there?
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B
I don't know.
- [137:02]
A
Says give me that. Iman, this could be you next year at Wrestlemania. Let George Kittle chug your beers. I think the beer relatively affordable.
- [137:09]
B
Really?
- [137:11]
J
I just don't know. I don't know if I'm gonna make it. If the playoffs is on. Some good stuff going on, bro. I don't know. I don't know if I could do that over the playoff. I watched. I watched.
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A
Watch the clips. I get it. I understand what you're saying.
- [137:23]
J
I get the clips. I gotta watch the Game live, dog. It's some good out here.
- [137:26]
A
Yeah, you're right. And there's an alien playing currently in the West. Go ahead, debuz.
- [137:29]
F
Yeah.
- [137:30]
E
While we kind of still talk about the goat convo, MJ Braun Wimby is kind of like the first player I've seen since Braun. It kind of has that goat potential on both sides of the court now. He just got, had his playoff debut last night, dropped 35. You know, they pretty much handled the trailblazers wire to wire. But what's your expectations for him now in going forward? Because watching him, Steph Castle, I'm like, man, this, this team can, can be on a real run right here. What's your thoughts on Wim being the Spurs?
- [137:56]
J
I like them. I like them. I think if anybody has something to say about the OKC Thunder repeating, it's going to be the Spurs. The only other way I could see it is the Boston Celtics just becoming, becoming a better matchup throughout the seven game series. I think it'll take them a couple games to figure it out, but Boston can always pose the question, I feel. But coming out of the west especially is important for them because they are the only team that can match up with the OKC Thunder. And it is because they have an exceptional athlete, Invicta Wembayana and they have a great, great backcourt that defensively can probably one of the only backcourts that can match up with okc. It's just OKC is so deep a team, man. It's so much pressure, so much all the time. I can't put any expectation on the spurs, but I can say that I'm very excited for them. I'm not going on the hill with Perk and saying that they gonna win they first time around because I do, you know, I go with the, the game and the history of the game and it says that he's too young, he needs his heart broke. So Thunder, I think he gonna need a. Yeah, he gonna need a heartbroke. He gonna need a heartbreak. And I think the Thunder are going to be the ones to do it.
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A
I can't wait to see what the off season looks like. If Wemby goes through a heartbreak, he might write an album.
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B
Yeah, right.
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A
He might write an entire musical or, or.
- [139:25]
J
He gained that 20 pounds that Giannis went and gained. You remember when giannis gained the 20 pounds and came back and we was like, wait, how do we stop that? He was just, he was just Bambi. He was the deer in headlights falling all around. You could Push Giannis in his hip and he fly out of bounds. So he kind of would miss a lot of his finishes. And then he got real strong and them hips got tight, and all of a sudden it was pop and he was in the air on top of everybody head. It's like, does Wimby get that weight or does he stay nimble? Because I also like him being elusive of. He's kind of slithery how he gets by people. Yeah, it's kind of.
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A
He had a behind the back there at seven. What. How tall is he?
- [140:02]
B
Seven.
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F
Four.
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A
Four Fast.
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J
Yeah. Like, is he. I want to know, does he stay Kevin Duranish or does he start going more toward the Giannis body type? It would be interesting to see on how he works on his body, but the sky's the limit for this dude. The way he competes on both sides of the floor is exceptional. Even the way he talks about basketball, the way way he embraces challenges, he is so good for the basketball world.
- [140:28]
A
Hey, that's what you guys used to do. Like, after a whistle was blown and somebody would try to take a shot at a hoop, guys started blocking those shots right then.
- [140:36]
J
I think that's the KG rule.
- [140:38]
A
KG start blocking them. Can't get it. No free bucket here then. AI, I think. I think he threw one, like, to the moon.
- [140:45]
J
Yeah, yeah.
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A
People are having to shoot like that against Wemby. Like that little floater right there, look. Reminded me of when AI guy was trying to steal the. Yeah, the. The extra shot or whatever. It's insane. That's a whole new stuff.
- [140:57]
J
That's another thing. Yeah, that's another thing we've talked about. He takes away the floater sometimes people have tried to do that, and he still blocks it. Like right here. That's an orthodox floater. Like, nobody should have to float that high. You shouldn't have to extend your arm that early. That is.
- [141:18]
A
Wow. Yeah. Floater. It's like, you know those.
- [141:20]
J
You know.
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A
You know that dog. You know when the dogs do the dock jumping?
- [141:24]
K
Yeah.
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A
And they, like, chase a ball that's going out there. Yeah. Like, I wonder how high you could put one for Wemby. Like, if it was. Yeah, like, if it was volleyball. Volleyball. They'll, like, set it high, tell somebody to go get it.
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D
14.
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A
How high could Wemby get if he had to go get one?
- [141:37]
J
Unbelievable. 14 if he had to. Right.
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A
If he had to go get one.
- [141:40]
J
If he had to go do it.
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A
If he had. Because I can't in practice, we won't get it. Ever. I don't think, like if it was a game, no reason. How high can he, however high that was right there, I think he could have kept.
- [141:51]
J
Unbelievable. That's unbelievable. But that's the, the other thing about it is he's got some ex, he's got some strong hands. He gets a fingertip on a lot of these shots. Sometimes people are throwing passes and just his finger alone changes the direction. A lot of times it'll change the spin of the ball. Ball. It'll, it'll, it'll ricochet a little bit. But when he seems to get a deflection, it's always a total redirection of the ball. I can only imagine that his hands are stronger than they appear. You could probably ask Abdia. He slapped them dead on the back. Doing that back behind the back move right there. But the, the cool thing that the Portland Trailblazers are going to have to realize and Drew Holiday is going to benefit from this the most.
- [142:37]
G
Most.
- [142:37]
J
I'm excited to see game two. They have to reestablish in their mind that there is a loss art of the mid range jumper. The mid range jumper cannot go away when you play this team and I say that to say you have to be able to go off of a ball screen. You have to be able to put their defender on the hip. Then you're going to have to be able to play within that flirting range of can he block it or can he not block it it. When you shoot that mid range jumper, sometimes Wimby bites. If he bites and goes for the contest, you now have somebody that has an offensive reading rebounding lane. If you don't do that and you go for the bait and think that you could just leave it on the rim with a floater, you get, you deal with the results that we just saw.
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A
Okay, we got a mid range the out of the alien down there in San Antonio. Good luck to all parties trying to do that. Iman, thank you for making time for us, man. You're the best. Best.
- [143:29]
J
Yes sir. Thank y', all, man.
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A
We would like some more non biased punditry though.
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C
Yeah, right down the middle.
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A
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C
Made some good points.
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A
He did bring up some good stuff. I still think my answer was never. I could have been on one of the ass teams down at the bottom. Trying to think I could have been on one of the ass teams.
- [145:05]
C
Probably Pacers.
- [145:06]
E
I wish we could throw you out there and see. Maybe you find out the same way you just found out about the business.
- [145:13]
C
Uncalled for.
- [145:14]
A
I don't know if I'm getting Crossroads jelly rolled. An NRKO doctor. Maybe I'm the one doing that.
- [145:19]
E
Had the Jordan rules. Bad boys. They had to get through Lamb, Bearden boys, Rodman.
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A
Okay, so that's okay. That's what I'm saying.
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E
Bad boys.
- [145:27]
A
You guys are talking about like four teams. The playoffs. I'm not saying that. I'm saying first game of the season. Worst team. I'm on the.
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B
The Knicks, Washington Bullets.
- [145:37]
A
Yeah. Flint Tropics. I'm on how.
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C
Putting up.
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G
How many points you got to score?
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A
Defensive specialist. I'm passing that thing.
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B
Yeah.
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A
I might hit it. You three and D, definitely. I'm bopping wood out there. I'm talking about the Flint Tropics. Okay. That's what I'm talking about.
- [145:52]
C
NBA kind of has always only been four, four to eight teams.
- [145:56]
E
If you think about it.
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A
I'll tell you, people do not like the way this season has gone with the obvious good, obvious bad. I don't know how they fix it. I'm excited to hear. There was something that Adam. So over this weekend, there was a rumor or something. I forget what it was. Tear, maybe. Ryan Smith said something about it like a tier. Like if you qualify to be a part of it, as opposed to having to outright, you can like qualify for that particular thing. Like are you rebuilding or. I forget how we worded it. It's like I like that they're trying to figure it out, but every game being a six point spread, obviously Basketball, it's only two shots. Whatever the case, it's still like all year they had a 25 and a half points all time. It's like, that's not good.
- [146:36]
C
I mean, it's the playoffs. The Celtics are favored by 14 points.
- [146:39]
A
Yeah. So it's like, how do teams get better and that now they're doing expansion? I don't know. It's all fascinating. It's all interesting. I guess content is content and events are events. If you can sell tickets to an event, people will go to event. Okay. Like here in Indiana, Indianapolis, people will go to Pacer games if they have friends in town. What is there going on on Tuesday? Oh, we can go to a Pacer game. Let's go to a Pacer. So it's a live event. I get that. But from a watch. Watching and like buying in perspective, sometimes it's hard to know who. Who's. Who's trying now. Playoff basketball, though. Yes. Everybody wants peace. Oh, yeah. Even the Orlando Magic are trying to take a little bite. They're going right into Detroit and smack them right in the mouth. Got all the people in Detroit already giving up hope on their number one seed Detroit Pistons. They should what?
- [147:24]
C
They should give up hope.
- [147:25]
H
I don't give up hope. You yet. But to counter your point, the Pistons were bad for like 10 years. Couple good draft picks, boom, they flip the switch. Same with the Spurs.
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F
Y.
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H
They were horrible for years. Couple good draft picks, they flipped the switch. So I assume that's what Adam Silver's gonna pitch everyone. And that's Ryan Smith's problem. Ryan Smith last week was like, hey, like, we've been bad for a while and we haven't moved up in the lottery. That's a problem. And so it's hard to get better when you don't do that.
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A
He said, we're at a good spot that we have gotten to the point now where we will, yes, be going. He said, but there's other teams there. Hey, don't look now. There's other teams that are about to be trying to do what we basically just kind of got on the tail end of. Oh, yeah, all these other teams. It's been a known system, I guess
- [148:07]
B
just pulling into the pits right now. That's what he's, you know, talking about, pit stops. And takes four years to. To get back out onto, you know, pit lane.
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A
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, to help in the current situation, to maybe give a prognostic. Prognostication on what is currently happening as we await my scans, which Will be returned tomorrow morning. Former NFL doctor, obviously founder of the central injury pfi.
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C
Is it pro football injury?
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A
Yep. Sports injury Central.
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C
Oh, there it is.
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A
Which I did not get to see the video of mine if they did one. But we are asking for it now. Ladies and gentlemen, Dr. David Chop. Doc, what's going on, Doc?
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K
So we'll give you, we'll give you a live, live recap of this. Oh, my question for you is harder hit jelly roll on you or you taking a hit in the NFL?
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A
Okay, good question. I think in the NFL I blacked out mentally. Didn't really remember the thing for the jelly roll one. My whole body stopped working. I don't know if you saw it was it just couldn't really operate it for what I. Whatever reason. So I think there's maybe some nerve. You see my head back and forth there? So maybe it's a nerve. I obviously I don't, I can't have anything broken here. Right, Doc? It just, but it wasn't just this. Yeah, I remember I got the crossroads which is a lot of ripping on the neck. So I got boom. Okay, that.
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B
Yeah.
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C
Whiplash.
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A
We don't know if that potentially did anything either there. Dr. David Child's right back up there. I'm a cat. And then boom. Watch this document. And twisty. Woohoo. Okay, could be whiplash as well because I'm coming to a complete stop. But also he's raking on my neck right there. And then to kind of cap it all off after I do a 75 yard sprint with the neck brace on because who knows, It's a lot of pain. I get this one devastating bang right there. I mean Doc, in my mind with how it's feeling, especially after God. Go, go, go, go. And then many men did wish death upon me.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And blood in my body and I can't see. So I, I don't know if I've been treating it perfectly, but I have had this on, on. We're getting the scans back tomorrow. What do you expect that I'm going to hear whenever I see these scans between a C2 and a C5 downer?
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K
Well, look, I hope it's going to be good news. Look, you certainly strained your neck. You certainly took a lot of force on it. I'm actually surprised you didn't break a rib with that jelly roll thing and so forth. But you're playing hurt. You're playing hurt today for the fans. It's all good.
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A
Okay, so what is projected recovery here with potential broken? Actually, I Haven't even thought about this.
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I
That.
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A
Now that you mentioned it, yeah, I do feel a little tenderness.
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C
You couldn't tie your shoe because of that?
- [151:02]
A
Yeah, I couldn't get down there. I didn't even think about my. Maybe we should get that scanned as well. Maybe a hairline fracture that's kind of coming in now as the adrenaline is kind of wearing off. Neck strain. How. How long am I gonna. Of course, if the scans come back clean, which you are, are normally right there and everything you project. How long neck strain gonna be bothering me. How long you think I gotta have this thing on?
- [151:22]
K
I think you're going to be stiff for a while, but I don't imagine that you're going to keep that neck collar on for very long.
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A
You're just.
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K
As soon as you get the mri good, you're just going to be like one of the football players that just say, I'm going to roll with it. Even though you'll play hurt without it because you'll be tired of it and you're already trying to move around a lot as it is. My money's on you recovering faster than most here. But I will say this.
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A
Thank you.
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K
Say what you will about wwe, and I covered ringside WWE before the action is real and the injuries are real. I mean, say what you will about it.
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A
Yeah. Thank you, doc. I agree. All right. Thank you for that. Let's now turn our attention to the draft. Obviously, you've been a part of many of those and the medicals matter so damn much. There's somebody that has seemingly been hurt, ligament bound and muscle in his collegiate career, but so explosive. Go ahead, Tone.
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D
Yeah, Pat's talking about Jordan Tyson at Colorado. He tore his ACL and I believe PCL as well, maybe mcl. And then he had the collarbone injury two years ago right before the College Football Playoff. And then the hamstring issues this year. What did you see from Jordan Tyson's workout and how do you think the NFL doctors will see him going into this draft?
- [152:39]
K
We're not really that worried about Jordan Tyson and we said it ahead of this special pro day, his personal pro day. Hamstring injuries always heal. Have we ever heard of one that didn't heal? He doesn't have a history of recurrent hamstring. Look at that athleticism. The collarbone. He plays football. It's a collision sport. It's healed. The knee is the issue. But remember the. The knee was multi ligament and it was 2022. So you've got a lot of tape on him. And how athletic he is and how he's recovered. So I actually don't see a lot of issues on him in terms of medical for this draft. And I think that's what you're hearing about him going up the draft board at this point in time.
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A
Yeah, I think that's a huge deal. I think what you just said is a massive ordeal because for me, I'd be scared to death to have somebody that has so many injuries to draft to a 17 game season with a bunch of adults faster and maybe even more physical than it's ever been at the highest peak of it. Not necessarily every single play. It's like, how will this guy survive? You saying the injuries not seemingly correlated to each other and his most recent ones, a hamstring, he'll be back from that. You're not saying, you're saying that any draft class. This would be not a problem or this draft class because it's not nearly as, I guess, blue chippy is what they say. Yeah, I guess in his time he would be considered a blue chip. Are you saying any draft would view him that way or this draft in particular?
- [154:04]
K
Well, you know, medical grades are different, just like personnel grades are different. What I'm saying here is medical isn't going to determine where he's drafted. I think he's fine medically. His talent will determine where he's drafted and his talent might have him at the top of the wide receiver draft. And I think it will come to fruition. They're not worried about Jordan Tyson. Besides, despite all this injury prone stuff, which I don't like that injury prone term, the kid plays hard, his injuries are not related. And look at how he's performed in the years since his knee injury. Not real worried about him.
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A
Wow, that's a huge statement coming from you, I think. I think Jordan Tyson's people are certainly going to be pumped to hear that as well. See, yeah, that's what we've been saying this entire time. He has some Odell shit going on, you know, in the, in the, in the workout. And then you watch some of the film. It's like this guy's freak, freaky out here. If you're able to get him, why not? But there's also potentially people trying to stir up a little right now saying he would never draft that.
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C
Yeah, don't draft him.
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A
Definitely not before the 14th pitch. Now you never want to do that. We are in draft season not saying doctors do that, but certainly teams do it as they roll. Let's go to the NBA, another massive story. Go ahead, Ty.
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B
Yeah, Doc. Anything on Luka Doncic? Now, there's, you know, there's a chance that he's going to play game three.
- [155:18]
J
Maybe.
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B
We see that the, you know, there's an extra day off in between games for this series.
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D
What.
- [155:25]
B
What's your take? Do you think we're going to get a. Somewhat like 60% Luca, 70% Luca? What's your take on this?
- [155:33]
K
Look, you know, when you travel to Europe and you try and get all the special treatment, it's a grade two hamstring strain. We've been saying at Sports Injury Central all along, he's out for at least the first series. The Lakers will have to survive that for him to return. Here's the issue. I actually see Austin Reeves coming back before Luka Doncic. Austin Reaves can try and play through his rib issue and try and tough it out. Luka, if he comes back a game too early, he could be lost for the rest of the playoffs. So I don't see the Lakers doing that when it comes to a hamstring the way that it is for him. So I think they're going to have to get by Houston without him and then see what happens.
- [156:11]
A
Okay, Doc, we appreciate you so much. Thank you for taking the time. I don't know where you are right now, but are you always in scrubs? No.
- [156:18]
K
You know, this was off kilter. I'm. I'm. You know, I. Yes. Sometimes I'm lazy. I'm between surgeries, and so I'm in scrubs between surgeries when it's a planned visit. I put on that Sports Injury Central red shirt. This was impromptu, so apologies.
- [156:31]
A
No apologies to us. To not getting your report immediately after I had this neck injury. I should have asked. I should have immediately went to Sports Injury Central and said, hey, what should I be expecting here? Help. Because I was starting to freak out a little bit and then they were like, don't worry about.
- [156:46]
E
About it.
- [156:46]
A
You go ahead and put this collar on, it'll be okay. Do whatever. Do whatever. I can go to a 50 Cent concert and be a lot of this. Yeah, yeah. Can I do. This is how you do it with the collar on, you'll be safe. That's good news.
- [156:57]
K
Take the under on your recovery. You're a football player.
- [157:00]
E
Hell, yeah.
- [157:01]
D
Well said.
- [157:01]
C
Hey, man.
- [157:02]
A
Doc, that's Dr. David Ch and Dr. God, I needed that, didn't I, man? He knows. He does know. 173 text messages after WrestleMania. Not one from him.
- [157:18]
B
Really?
- [157:19]
C
He's probably Checking tape. Make sure you'll be okay, though.
- [157:22]
A
Yeah. He didn't want to say, hey, hope you're okay.
- [157:24]
C
He does want to find out.
- [157:25]
B
Yeah, yeah.
- [157:26]
C
Make a bad read on it.
- [157:27]
A
Yeah. That was interesting. I've been doing a lot of no phone stuff lately. What else? Masters, huh?
- [157:35]
D
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [157:37]
A
Wrestlemania. I had no, sir. I. Nothing. It was. I was Amish. I was Amish. Came out of that thing afterwards like, oh, I wonder what happened. Oh, oh, yeah, that's right.
- [157:49]
D
Yeah.
- [157:49]
A
Yeah, I did. I did. I was like, oh, something might happen. Because we got a lot of stuff going on right now. There's a lot of stuff going on in our particular business. So I thought maybe something, you know, really happened. Then I realized, oh, everybody.
- [158:00]
D
Yeah.
- [158:00]
A
You okay, dude?
- [158:01]
B
Yeah, I just got.
- [158:02]
A
Stretch it out. You okay, dude? Everything okay?
- [158:04]
F
Okay.
- [158:04]
A
I just saw Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll. A lot of that. Oh, we don't like Jelly Rolling. What the hell happened when you.
- [158:09]
C
No, no, we don't.
- [158:10]
A
No, no, no. I think me and Jelly Roll are going to be okay.
- [158:13]
D
Maybe you two, but the rest of us.
- [158:14]
A
You're done on them.
- [158:15]
B
Yeah. I just didn't like that.
- [158:18]
G
I mean, why would we. All right.
- [158:19]
B
He could have put that to bed.
- [158:20]
C
Who cares?
- [158:21]
D
I'm sorry. Did we see what he did to you? I mean, you're. You're apparently very forgiving.
- [158:26]
A
Yeah, but he was also telling a crowd, like, hey, I'm representing for you guys. I think Jelly Roll was just having a little rock star moment there, you know? I think he was doing full rock star, Brett.
- [158:34]
D
Okay.
- [158:34]
A
You could have figured that's what I think he was doing.
- [158:36]
D
And he sang the national anthem.
- [158:38]
A
Well, Michael Cole sitting there. It's happening right in front of you guys. I do appreciate D butt. There is an angle where DBUT is actually pointing, going, no, everybody else has their phone out watching me die. So, Dee. But I appreciate you at least pointing.
- [158:51]
D
He was living in the moment.
- [158:52]
A
Yeah, a lot of phones out there. Everybody seemed to be so happy when this thing broke with me on top of it. Then the stretcher comes out. Shots, coda. And poor Miss Lady. I. I forget her name. I was talking with. I was going, hey, say, you okay, Pat? I don't think so.
- [159:06]
E
Yeah, I don't think that guy was licensed either. That got you on that stretcher.
- [159:10]
D
I don't think so.
- [159:10]
A
If you're in Las Vegas and you go through something I hope you don't, there's a chance Dakota and Miss lady do come get you.
- [159:15]
E
Oh, I hope not.
- [159:16]
A
I hope they don't have to. Anybody ever. I hope nothing ever happens.
- [159:19]
C
Worked.
- [159:19]
A
I hope nothing ever happens. But yeah, I mean. Shout out to Eddie Orango helping out too. Mr. Jordan helping out. Thank you guys.
- [159:28]
G
Is it your first time being on a stretcher?
- [159:29]
A
Yeah.
- [159:29]
G
Like taking out like that.
- [159:30]
A
Yep. First time ever. A lot of things happen in that wrestling.
- [159:33]
G
There it is. Look at the crowd. So big.
- [159:38]
A
Yeah. Yeah. So mad. Yeah. What a time to be alive. The arm up.
- [159:45]
C
Tore it all, man. Oh good.
- [159:46]
A
I'll tell you what. You can stretch it out and come back. Back. Nobody's talking about being a fighting ref, you know.
- [159:50]
B
Yeah, exactly.
- [159:50]
A
You know what I mean? You only get one night. My shoe was untied. I just realized.
- [159:54]
B
Yeah.
- [159:54]
D
Dangerous.
- [159:55]
A
Happy. I'm okay.
- [159:57]
G
So close.
- [159:58]
A
I should have count.
- [159:59]
D
Well, you couldn't look down cuz your neck was potentially fractured.
- [160:02]
A
I shouldn't count. Exactly. I can't just.
- [160:03]
C
And that's why the. The motion was a little slower. Tick slower.
- [160:07]
A
Yeah. Cuz in my head it was a lot faster. Now that I'm watching, it's kind of slower than. And maybe that was the relay through the neck.
- [160:13]
D
And then was this just the animal and Randy coming out. He just saw human. He just saw red next to him.
- [160:18]
A
And I think he. I think he thought maybe I should have count quicker. I haven't really caught up with Randy.
- [160:22]
D
Could have just been the Vipers saw
- [160:24]
C
the ref shirt too. He already had, you know, Robinson once.
- [160:27]
A
I'm just a little bit worried that Randy and I's friendship is going to be affected by this.
- [160:31]
D
Yeah.
- [160:31]
A
I mean I think it's going to have to. I got rid of my RK everybody shirt already.
- [160:35]
E
Voices in his head.
- [160:37]
C
There's nothing you can't get by.
- [160:38]
A
Hey, cancel him. Yeah.
- [160:41]
D
Who knows
- [160:43]
A
Am.
- [160:44]
D
What voice told him to do that to you?
- [160:45]
A
Exactly.
- [160:46]
C
Maybe jelly rolls.
- [160:47]
D
Could have been jelly.
- [160:48]
C
He was thinking about the song get by and boom.
- [160:51]
A
And he said that's how I get by.
- [160:53]
C
Gotcha.
- [160:54]
A
Jell's got a lot of hates a lot of hits.
- [160:57]
C
Son of a sinner.
- [160:58]
D
Perhaps doesn't excuse what he did.
- [161:03]
A
He might have been thinking, I'll tell you what. When they do the. Getting a chance to experience that in the arena one more time. Couple more times. His interest was pretty good.
- [161:31]
C
Good fit.
- [161:32]
A
Me and Randy were standing down in the ring getting ready for a fight. Yeah. You know, getting ready to save the business. I'm telling Randy. You look good, champ. You look good, champ. People are taking pot shots at me.
- [161:44]
C
Oh yeah.
- [161:44]
E
Oh yeah.
- [161:45]
A
A lot of pot shots. At me. What, one of 50s guys?
- [161:48]
D
50s guys?
- [161:49]
A
Yeah. Fatso right over here. We go on to see him later.
- [161:52]
C
Yeah.
- [161:53]
A
Have a good time with him. He was. He's a pretty good guy.
- [161:56]
D
You pat, did he have that same energy later?
- [161:59]
A
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. He let know and I. I looked at him. I did remember him. He was me and him eye contact one on one right here. Because you do see each individual. Oh, yeah. Omar, right to your. Close to you.
- [162:10]
F
What side was Kittle on?
- [162:12]
A
Kittle was talking to a lot of the crowd, I think a lot of the time. But I told KD to go himself though, if we are wondering. I was in the ring and I looked at K. You kd?
- [162:20]
B
Yeah, had to.
- [162:21]
A
And K goes. I go, Tyrese get one booze bag
- [162:27]
E
drunk, seeing red dessert, everyone. Because he was definitely on Cody side.
- [162:30]
A
Yeah.
- [162:30]
D
I was like, we knew he was a crybaby.
- [162:32]
A
Tyrese's dad, though. Okay, John.
- [162:35]
B
Big John.
- [162:35]
A
Yeah. Let's talk about Tyrese Halliburton's dad. You know, I would like to say our guy.
- [162:41]
D
Courtside again.
- [162:42]
A
Our guy. Definitely my guy. Okay. He's the a legend. I come out everybody's middle finger. Everybody's saying everything to me. I get in the ring, Big John Halbern's front row, thumbs up like this at me, smiling, waving. Everybody's flipping me off. Everybody in the building is flipping me off. And I'm flipping off appetite everybody. Fuck you. Fuck you too. Hey, you, fatso. Yeah, right. And Big John Halbert, big thumbs up and waving. So happy.
- [163:11]
C
That's support.
- [163:11]
A
And I like looked at him and I like. I was gonna say I was gonna do it, but I just want the call. I said, oh, zempic looking ass to call. It was a. That's an interesting thing, man. Very rarely can you just walk into an arena or a stadium and everybody in there hates that you're there. That was a beautiful thing. That was a lot easier to see the people that were supportive of me, you know, because they really stuck out and I appreciate them going through it out there. I appreciate you guys going through it out there. Yeah.
- [163:47]
C
Right away.
- [163:49]
A
So I didn't know all those fans were on the stage there. I mean, they're pretty close. Yeah, I mean, they were pretty close to the situation. We didn't do it. I didn't do a lot. Yeah, I just.
- [163:58]
G
Yeah, that was great.
- [164:00]
A
Yeah, I got a guy right there too. He was the one that was holding a sign said Trash McAfee. As soon as I walk out, I saw it like what's this guy all about? I don't think I should have got a full entrance, but if we're out here, let's fucking do it. Yeah. Every one of you needs to get it.
- [164:17]
C
Absolutely.
- [164:17]
A
Yep. You could take it. Sweet. Eat some with the red too.
- [164:20]
C
Red letters.
- [164:21]
A
Yeah. It was a good time, man. It was a good time out there. And, you know, I guess I was mistaken a little bit by some of the things.
- [164:27]
D
Sure. That's gonna happen. Yeah.
- [164:29]
A
I'm just trying to gas up my guy.
- [164:30]
B
Yeah.
- [164:31]
D
Save a business.
- [164:32]
A
Who's a real loser in this whole thing. Look at me. Look at me right now. Yeah. I gotta finally meet Cameron. God love. Hey, Ma, what's up? That met him finally. It is what it is. I was so pumped to meet him. Take a picture. I got a neck brace. Yeah.
- [164:48]
D
Yeah.
- [164:49]
A
He probably respect one of them Saturday Wrestlemania. I can't say it and I didn't say it, by the way. And I do know rap songs well enough to not say it. Okay. Yes. As a white who does know every rap song and basically every word to it, there you. I have to know it better. Okay. I have to know every song very well.
- [165:10]
E
Beat a couple beats ahead.
- [165:14]
A
I have to be. I have to be. And there's no. Oh, we're too intoxicated. We're flowing.
- [165:18]
B
Yeah.
- [165:19]
F
No.
- [165:19]
A
Okay. I saw a lot of people tweeting Pat, definitely. Some people were saying, did he say. And then everybody was like, no, that's Halliburton. And you're like, no, he knows the words back there. It's like, I come from an NFL locker room. Let's all please have some respect for my teammates and understand that, that, that would never happen happen. And it can't. But I'll tell you, it is a fine line when you're singing songs from 2004, okay. And you know the words kinda. And then all of a sudden, if you're in a video in the back and you're rapping along and you know it's a club so you can't hear anything. You can't even get caught doing that. Hey, his mouth just said it. I know, I know they can't do any of that. So please, please know that that would never happen. Now, Hal Burton, he was put on show. Yeah. Halbert was pulling on show. But how that whole album, I mean, all. All 50 has to do is just play, play the out, just press, play on, get rich or die trying. We're going to do the whole thing. That's all he has to do. But there's three different albums that he has heat from, too. It was a. It was a great show.
- [166:19]
E
Played the power intro song.
- [166:20]
D
Nice.
- [166:21]
B
Yeah.
- [166:22]
E
Cameron got up there. Yeah. That might have been my favorite live show, too.
- [166:27]
A
It was fucking incredible. I mean, it was a great show. He was. I told him that, actually. Hey, man. Graduated high school in, oh, five. Yep. I was the one that you. Yeah, all this shit was us, basically. Go, go every day. Thank you so much for your contributions to my life. No problem, man. Like. All right. I need to get the fuck out of here.
- [166:44]
E
10 out of 10 hospitality, too.
- [166:46]
A
Unbelievable.
- [166:47]
E
Yeah, 10 out of 10 drinks.
- [166:49]
A
Hey, what do you need? What do you need? What do you need? Come on here. We had a group of tenants.
- [166:52]
E
We were deep.
- [166:52]
A
We're deep dudes all. And just, like, right in. Yeah, come on in. All right, sweet. We walk into a room. It was a big room.
- [166:59]
E
Yeah.
- [166:59]
A
Oh, I don't know if I should be here right now. Tony Yayo.
- [167:04]
B
Oh, man.
- [167:05]
C
Unreal.
- [167:05]
A
The Real Report.
- [167:06]
B
Yeah.
- [167:07]
A
Him and Uncle Murder. Love that. We need you on the show, actually. You got it. No problem, man. Nice to meet you. I'm in this. Sunglasses on, ref shirt. Incredible.
- [167:21]
G
The refs.
- [167:22]
E
It's hilarious to see, obviously, people that know the business and then people that don't follow the business. You all right, bro? Tough night.
- [167:29]
A
Tough night. Are you gonna be okay? I don't know. I don't know if anybody's ever had
- [167:35]
D
it for the scan.
- [167:36]
A
Yeah. Check in with Chow Roads, Crossroads. Me, bang. Jelly Roll. Jelly Roll. You know, Jelly Roll, Grammy Award winner. He pulled me through a table, exploded. Splinters all over my body. And then Randy Horton, you know, RKO got me. That was all. Tonight they said, wow, are you. Is everything going to be okay? Like, I don't know.
- [167:57]
B
I don't know.
- [167:57]
C
TBD scans.
- [167:58]
A
See, I'm run on adrenaline right now.
- [168:00]
E
Yeah. I didn't see this until this morning.
- [168:02]
A
Yeah.
- [168:03]
F
Oh, man.
- [168:03]
A
Yeah, this is. Yeah, this is Kid. What are you guys laughing about?
- [168:09]
G
I like how they're holding you on there.
- [168:11]
A
What do you got?
- [168:12]
H
What's up?
- [168:12]
A
Funny.
- [168:13]
K
Funny.
- [168:13]
G
Everybody just sneaking it in there. Make sure they know.
- [168:17]
A
Well, because I knew there was going to be a lot of photos down there.
- [168:20]
D
Is that frog driving thing.
- [168:23]
A
I was not.
- [168:23]
G
It was all, look at your face, too.
- [168:26]
A
Yeah, all of. All of it. I got carted out twice. I got stretchered out. I got carted out hunched over like that.
- [168:34]
G
Like how you're hunched over?
- [168:36]
A
Yeah, I mean, crazy air bas. I couldn't control my body.
- [168:41]
B
No, of course not.
- [168:43]
A
They're like, hey, there's still fans. Here I go. What is that?
- [168:47]
C
Me locked up.
- [168:51]
A
My body, I can't use it. Those days are passed now.
- [168:59]
B
Hell of a run.
- [169:00]
C
Unbelievable.
- [169:00]
A
Great run. Great run. Aj. You're a part of my wrestling run. Thank you for your service, aj.
- [169:06]
G
Back in the day.
- [169:06]
A
That was fun.
- [169:07]
J
Yeah.
- [169:07]
A
Just calling ebot. You're a part. Thank you so much, Frankie. Thank you, buddy. To my WWE 2K brethren. Yeah.
- [169:19]
E
Hell yeah.
- [169:20]
A
Yeah. What a run that was.
- [169:21]
B
What a run.
- [169:22]
C
True honor.
- [169:22]
A
They were really happy whenever we all got in that game.
- [169:24]
B
Ecstatic.
- [169:25]
A
Yeah.
- [169:25]
B
Yeah.
- [169:26]
C
That's one of the nicest days on
- [169:27]
G
the Internet for us.
- [169:29]
A
It really was.
- [169:30]
C
Yeah.
- [169:30]
E
That was my introduction to the album iwc.
- [169:33]
A
That's when they said, hey, yeah. Not in our time.
- [169:37]
E
Oh, yeah, yeah. Are these goofballs.
- [169:41]
A
They don't get it. They never will. They might have been right all along, though. Feels like they probably are. You guys look great in the game. You too, aj. Thank you.
- [169:51]
G
We always have jelly and a. Jelly and Cod. Cody are going to be a tag team now. Travel right around.
- [169:58]
A
I don't know. I didn't get a chance to catch up with either of them.
- [170:01]
G
Your body shut down.
- [170:02]
A
You're right. Yeah.
- [170:04]
E
It's Cody's eye, all right.
- [170:06]
G
I don't think so.
- [170:07]
A
My understanding, from what I saw on the Internet, not in real life. I haven't seen that thing in real life. I believe that. That, that thing was a big time.
- [170:14]
B
Huge.
- [170:14]
A
That was a big time. And then there's also, I believe, some stitches here. He got kicked in the head. Some other happened in here.
- [170:21]
B
He got up pretty good.
- [170:22]
A
The champ really went. Really. He lay low out there.
- [170:24]
B
Exactly, exactly.
- [170:25]
A
Which is why we would like to reiterate that might be the one.
- [170:29]
B
That guy might be the one.
- [170:30]
A
That guy might be the one. Yeah. I'll tell you, he was fun to watch out there, wasn't he? Oh, yeah. I didn't really appreciate the fact that, you know, when we attack him before the match starts, he's supposed to lose that.
- [170:43]
J
Yep.
- [170:44]
A
You're supposed to lose it. You're not supposed to drop Randy into a post.
- [170:48]
C
No.
- [170:49]
A
Cuz Randy's supposed to. I gotta stop doing that.
- [170:57]
G
A.J. warned you. We talked about it last week. Man, don't. They've been. They watch film too, bud. You know, they saw that like they were waiting. That's good. You're setting up. You're setting up a comeback. Maybe someday.
- [171:09]
B
No, he's done business.
- [171:11]
G
Part of the agreement.
- [171:12]
J
We'll see.
- [171:13]
D
Deals dude, he's a man of his word.
- [171:16]
A
I did sign something I didn't read,
- [171:17]
D
so I did see that.
- [171:19]
F
Yeah.
- [171:19]
A
I got caught up in a moment. Randy said he was going to go talk to the crowd. I couldn't wait to hear him.
- [171:22]
D
And that guy was smirking.
- [171:24]
A
Foreign Adam Pierce. Yeah.
- [171:25]
C
Yeah.
- [171:27]
A
I like to say thanks to him for trying to keep guy.
- [171:29]
D
I didn't need to know his name.
- [171:31]
A
I think his name is Nick.
- [171:32]
D
All the trucks are sick, though.
- [171:34]
A
The Ram trucks.
- [171:35]
E
Yeah.
- [171:35]
C
Yeah, Those were sweet.
- [171:36]
A
The most recent one was the best.
- [171:37]
D
Yeah.
- [171:38]
A
The week before that. Probably not their best, but it was good Ram truck. I did.
- [171:44]
D
It's very unlike you to sign some. Something they didn't really know.
- [171:46]
A
I was only a couple words on it. It felt like it was pretty basic stuff, but I think it did mention that I could get hit by anybody at any time.
- [171:53]
D
That's why he was smirking clear for physicality.
- [171:55]
A
I said, all right, you got it. Cody actually said when he got in the ring, he reminded me, he said, I can hit you right now.
- [172:01]
E
What?
- [172:02]
A
And I had to think to myself, can he? No way, friendy. Oh, yeah, he can do it. And then guess who hit who. And guess what didn't work. That was not how that was supposed to go. We're supposed to beat him the down. Yeah, we're supposed to beat him the down. He was supposed to go through maybe the commentator table.
- [172:20]
B
Exactly.
- [172:21]
A
He was maybe supposed to have. Maybe me. Yeah, that would have been. Who knows if I'm showcasing out there. Yeah, I'm showcasing immortals like this right here. Coming across on him. Then Ray throws his bag of bones back in the ring. Ring the bell, doofus. One, two, three. Right of there, he's got. They were talking about match times. That one.
- [172:41]
D
There was a lot of talk of that.
- [172:42]
A
That one should have been much quicker. Yeah. But instead it was complete opposite. I felt like I was taught a bit of a lesson pretty quickly. Yeah, Ted, Road's going to kill you. J. Roll's gonna kill you, and Rainey's gonna kill you. Almost like the rest of them go and say, hey, kid, scram. Which is why I said, hey, if this doesn't go how it's supposed to go, I'm out of here. Yeah. We're back on Wednesday. We're at Live from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
- [173:11]
B
Hell, yeah.
- [173:13]
A
Tomorrow we were going to be live, and then something was offered to us in Pittsburgh, so we are going to have to take them up on that offer. So we are going to do that. I get a lot of People telling me that I'm getting lazy because we don't do a show as much whenever there's some sporting event on in the afternoon that we're all going to watch anyways. What we have learned over the history of the doing this show is it is not worth you watching us watch another show. It is not. It's not good for anybody. It is not good. It is literally not good for anybody. It's the worst. Okay? It's the shits. And we can't help ourselves. If the Masters is on the afternoon you're watching, we're gonna watch the Masters. If March Madness is happening, we're gonna watch it. That's kind of how it goes. So we got a lot of people talking about us, but not, you know, this week. We're off tomorrow. We're getting offered something they've never been offered for. And we're getting our scans back tomorrow. Yeah, yeah.
- [173:56]
C
Very important.
- [173:57]
D
You might have to have fusion surgery tomorrow.
- [173:59]
A
Potentially. Yeah. But also the thing we were offered tomorrow, I've never heard of any human being getting offered it. And we are going to take advantage of that.
- [174:06]
K
Hell, yeah.
- [174:07]
B
We're also doing a, you know, five plus hour show on Thursday night. So kind of.
- [174:12]
A
No. But genuinely, the fact that any of you watch anything, we're very surprised and appreciative of. Thursday night's going to be gigantic. Yes. Wednesday, we're live from Pittsburgh from the draft spot.
- [174:24]
F
Friday, too.
- [174:26]
A
Friday, we're live from there as well with Roger Goodell.
- [174:30]
D
Oh, the commissioner of the NFL annual
- [174:33]
A
annual post first round. How'd you do, Raj? Hey, what are we doing about the refs, Rog? Lot of that. Yeah, there's going to be a lot of. I think that's probably going to be the focal point of this particular conversation this year. Hey, be Mack heads up. We're coming in with that. Right? Don't you think, A.J. that was nice of us to do.
- [174:49]
G
Absolutely.
- [174:50]
A
Yeah.
- [174:50]
G
Give him a heads up. He knows he would expect it to.
- [174:52]
D
Heads up. Normally, we want to know where the next draft is going to be as well.
- [174:55]
B
You already know that.
- [174:56]
D
Well, the one after D.C. there you go.
- [174:59]
A
Heads up. We also want to know 18 games, two buys.
- [175:04]
C
Feels right.
- [175:06]
A
Australia, automatic buy. How's this work? What's your thoughts? There's a lot to talk about with it that he will have answer. He is actually grass the streaming deals. Streaming deals. Five more money, five more games with YouTube, NFL Network getting purchased by ESPN but also the NFL now having a percentage of ESPN as a whole, maybe making Players renegotiating with him.
- [175:26]
D
Maybe making players declare before the draft whether they want to come back and play or not. Something to think about.
- [175:32]
A
Quarterbacks.
- [175:33]
D
Sure, whatever.
- [175:35]
C
Oh, like the NBA.
- [175:37]
A
Just quick follow up. Do we know if that has happened yet? Do we still have time before the draft starts? How many days?
- [175:44]
D
Two and a half.
- [175:45]
A
Ish. So could still happen actually.
- [175:47]
D
77 hours.
- [175:48]
G
Yep.
- [175:49]
E
Two minutes 53.
- [175:51]
A
Pretty good little countdown right there. Yeah, it's right here, I guess. Good job here with boys. Good job. Good job, Zeke. Good job. Dirty. Good job, Nick.
- [175:59]
D
Job, boys.
- [176:00]
A
Coming together. Countdown in the draft spectacular is currently sitting at 77 hours, 2 minutes 35 seconds.
- [176:11]
B
Can't wait.
- [176:12]
C
So close.
- [176:12]
A
It's the next generation NFL superstar. Oh, yeah. Live in Pittsburgh. Think about the energy that's going to be there. Nice weather.
- [176:19]
D
Holy AJ Great weather.
- [176:21]
G
Great weather, isn't it? I mean, yeah.
- [176:22]
B
People going to say yeah, don't say,
- [176:26]
G
I mean, not freezing. It's not going to be freezing.
- [176:28]
A
I don't know if Denardo is doing the reading of the Doppler that he created, but it does sound like by all accounts it's going to be a good couple days. The NFL seemingly has that effect.
- [176:37]
F
Yep.
- [176:38]
A
Came to Indianapolis for the Super bowl. We had like 75 degree weather in February. It's never happened before for four days. Then as soon as they left, we had an ice storm. Pittsburgh, here we go. Green Bay was a little bit.
- [176:49]
B
Friday was bad. Thursday, the night of the draft, we got lucky. But Detroit was the cold. Boy, it was cold and windy.
- [176:55]
A
Brisk. I forgot how. How chilly it was.
- [176:56]
B
Yeah.
- [176:56]
A
Have we. Have we decided on a dress code yet? We haven't. What we're dressing like.
- [177:00]
J
No.
- [177:00]
A
No idea. We have not figured that out yet.
- [177:02]
D
I packed a.
- [177:04]
A
Don't.
- [177:04]
C
I got an idea. I got an idea I need to run by you.
- [177:08]
A
No, no, no.
- [177:08]
B
I mean, I figured I know what
- [177:10]
D
the last years have been, so I think.
- [177:12]
A
So we're just going. Hey, let's dress nice. Yeah, okay. It's the draft.
- [177:17]
C
That's why I need to run it by you.
- [177:18]
A
It's a draft spectacular. You're dressing like an. Is that what it sounds like? Just.
- [177:22]
C
I. I have a couple ideas.
- [177:24]
A
Ty, it's a shame you never get to go to this.
- [177:26]
B
I know. And I was really. I love Pittsburgh. I love everything about Pittsburgh. And you know, of course it's going to be nice too. But you guys will. You guys be, you know, you don't. You don't need me up there. It'll be fine without me.
- [177:38]
A
But you would make it better. Like, if you were ever a part of one of these, I think you, Ty Schmidt, would really enjoy.
- [177:44]
B
I don't. Well, listen, it's one of my fit. You know, it's one of my favorite nights of the year, sitting at home watching you guys or wherever I end up. You know, wherever I'm at, I'm tuning into you guys and I'm just saying. I am just chomping at the bit. Like ball man. I would love to respond to that or I would have loved to say something there, but it's just not the reality of the situation, unfortunately.
- [178:04]
A
It's crazy. You always got something going on.
- [178:05]
B
I know.
- [178:10]
A
Why do we have him on the graphic?
- [178:11]
B
I don't know. I actually asked Bone that. That said, hey, this kind of.
- [178:14]
D
Oh, he was too busy letting Cody in the building to really.
- [178:17]
A
Oh, I'll tell you what. Bone really had quite a performance this weekend in Vegas. He showcased that he's on. He was clearly on our side, but he was happy without ending, I think. You know what I mean? He had a great night. Oh, yeah, Debone, 50 Cent did.
- [178:34]
D
He knew though. Did he know who 50 Cent was?
- [178:36]
A
A lot of this right here, 50,
- [178:42]
E
like right behind him.
- [178:44]
D
Mike, did Debone know any of the songs?
- [178:46]
A
Yeah, he had a couple of these. Yeah, right here is 50. He said, pockets.
- [178:52]
J
Yeah. I was like, paul, get your hands
- [178:53]
A
out of your pocket. They got cameras around it. You know, the whole thing, it evolved
- [178:57]
D
was Taco on stage.
- [178:58]
A
I didn't see singing, I didn't see Taco on stage. But I will say Debone had a talk week. Debone part of the mania main event.
- [179:06]
D
Sure.
- [179:07]
A
Story be whenever he lets Cody in the building like an. And then he's with 50 Cent. Talk, does the track thing. Then he's on stage of flow riding.
- [179:15]
B
Yep.
- [179:15]
A
You know, like it was. It was an interesting. It was an interesting week. 50 just acting abnormally normal for who he is at this stage of life. Just immediately after he performs, just comes out, just stands. Just stands here. Just casually stand here talking to people, have a couple drinks. I'm like, beast, you're just chilling. Yeah. Just literally, he's what? Super genius TV creator has the greatest album of all time. One of the best Internet.
- [179:46]
B
Yeah.
- [179:47]
C
Vitamin water.
- [179:48]
L
I was going to say great business.
- [179:49]
D
I know he's got booze companies.
- [179:51]
A
Incredible business, man. Yeah. Just chilling, having a good time. Like, hey, you got me senior high school, bro. Every day in the club I'm to going and in the club there now I'm In a club damn near 40. I feel like a nine. Hey, we're having a good time. We're having a good time here. And it was just like back in the day. All the same songs.
- [180:10]
C
Yep.
- [180:11]
A
From back. Just pick me up, put me back in the club. Actually that is what it was. But there was numerous discussions, numerous times walking into these rooms about how I shouldn't be here. Okay. This is not this stage of life. I should not be walking in here. Then you get in there. The energy is great. It's like, okay. I remember I used to do this a little bit. Here's used to be a good time. Tyrese Haliburton's looking at us going, I'm 26 years old. Yeah. I wanted to be a beaver jelly. It just feels like so different. 50 said yeah. We was having a ball at live in Vegas. My man Halberton pulled up on me. Okay. Sick. All right. So I think he does remember that we exist. It was a good time in there. It was a good time. He had the whole place was having a good time. He has so many hits. Yeah. So like every generation knows in Vegas is a lot of different. There's different conventions. Cinemacon was happening. Wrestlemania is happening there. There's some business going on. There's some gambling going on. So all these people go to all these hotels and then into the clubs. It's like you got to be able to hit like it. I don't want to say it's like a Super bowl type thing, but it is like if you can hit every generation Vegas you're gonna hit. I think he. Every song, every person. 85 year old drunk who's there. All the way down to the 21 year old kid that's celebrating their first time in Vegas. Whole place, just every single song. It was. It was electrifying.
- [181:27]
E
I had it on the aux court. Whole plane ride back.
- [181:29]
A
Yeah. 50 straight fifth did today too before the show. Perfect knee. Get rich or die trying it me. It was a great time. It was a great time. Wish Randy would have won. Yeah. But it seems like everything we thought we needed in that business isn't. Seems like it's a. Okay.
- [181:48]
E
Exactly.
- [181:48]
B
That's.
- [181:49]
A
Oh my goodness.
- [181:50]
E
That guy full time.
- [181:51]
G
Talk about being in shape.
- [181:53]
A
0% body fat. You'll be seeing my ass all summer. Thank God for that. Business is good, isn't it?
- [182:00]
B
Oh yeah.
- [182:00]
A
Hell yeah. It was a good run. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice. Might change your life. We're in this thing together tomorrow. We're experiencing a once in a lifetime thing. We'll be back on Wednesday live from the draft set. I wonder if they know that we're gonna be there Wednesday.
- [182:15]
D
Who's they?
- [182:16]
G
What if they don't?
- [182:17]
A
Rolling this thing together. Let's never ever forget that. Always gonna be stirring some shit even whenever we don't mean to. Team on me. Thank you all so much for allowing us to do this for a living. Actually, we're very, very thankful and lucky. Team on me. Team on three. One, two, three. Team goodbye. Hey sports fans. The ESPN App has all of ESPN all in one place. The ESPN app is your home to thousands of live event advance ESPN shows and originals across every ESPN network and service. And now you can check if you already have ESPN Unlimited as part of your TV package for no additional cost. Visit activate.espn.com to learn how to access your account or sign up then start streaming in the ESPN app. It's all of ESPN all in one place. Sign up or activate now.