PMS 2.0 1545 - Overreaction Monday with Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Danny Green, Jesse Cole, Nelly Korda

Summary

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The Pat McAfee Show 2.0, Episode 1545

Overreaction Monday - May 5, 2026

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Main Theme & Purpose

On this “Overreaction Monday,” Pat McAfee and the crew celebrated a packed weekend of sports across the NBA and NHL playoffs, the Kentucky Derby, and highlights from football and baseball. With insider guests like Adam Schefter, Shams Charania, Danny Green, Jesse Cole of the Savannah Bananas, and LPGA superstar Nelly Korda, the episode covered breaking news, dramatic results, and behind-the-scenes stories, all delivered in McAfee's trademark high-energy, comedic, and sometimes irreverent style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Moments & Celebrations (00:00–03:00)

• Pat celebrates his daughter Mackenzie’s 3rd birthday, reflects on fatherhood and sports dreams:
  “MacKenzie has turned three. It's been 1095 days of just absolute magic as I learn what love is through the eyes of a little baby girl named Mackenzie.” (00:20, Pat McAfee)
• Shout-outs: May the Fourth (Star Wars), intro to the show’s panel and upcoming guests.

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2. The Weekend in Sports: NBA & NHL Playoffs, Kentucky Derby (03:00–15:50)

NBA & NHL Playoffs

• Boston sports heartbreak:

  • Both Celtics and Bruins are out; fans commiserate on-air.
  • “Tough couple weeks for New Englanders. Are you okay?” (08:12)

• NBA surprises and parity:

  • Historic multiple 3-1 comebacks in the same playoff round.
  • “This marks the first time in NBA history there were multiple 3-1 comebacks in a single playoff round.” (09:54)
  • Unexpected underdogs, huge point spreads during the season, but exciting, unpredictable playoffs.

• Legendary NBA performances:

  • Cade Cunningham leads Pistons comeback.
  • Tyrese Maxey’s playoff explosion; Paul George’s late-career resurgence.
  • “76ers to me are the team to watch in the East.” (13:00, Darius Butler)
  • Anticipation around young stars (Ant Man, Victor Wembanyama).

Kentucky Derby

• Historic win for Sherrod Devoe and ‘Golden Tempo’:
  • First woman trainer to win the Derby.
  • “Golden Tempo, Kentucky Derby champion... 19.5 million viewers. Huge ratings. Anytime sports get celebrated, we appreciate it.” (02:36, Pat McAfee)
• Commentary on photo finishes, jockey rivalry (Ortiz brothers), and the cultural spectacle of the Derby.

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3. Sports Business, Entertainment, and Trends (06:00–15:00)

• Jesse Cole & Savannah Bananas:
  • “Gimmick baseball” now selling out football stadiums, bringing new, young fans into the sport with circus-like flair.
  • Celebration of innovation in sports business and entertainment.
• Nelly Korda’s ascension in LPGA:
  • Recent back-to-back tournament wins, three majors by age 27, “Golf swing of perfection.”

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4. NFL News & Analysis with Adam Schefter (21:50–33:20)

Behind the Scenes At The NFL Draft

• “The Pick is In” docuseries:
  • Schefter reveals surprise at being mic’d up for two days, offers a candid look at the intense flurry of trade and draft activity.

Breaking News: AJ Brown’s Impending Trade

• Schefter on soon-to-be-finalized AJ Brown trade to New England:
  • “I still think it is on track. I still think that's going to happen…involve a future one, likely a 2028 first round draft pick.” (26:13, Schefter)
  • Commentary on Philadelphia’s successful run with Brown, closure as his Eagles tenure likely ends.
• NFL free agency & post-draft market:
  • Names like Njoku, Jauan Jennings, Bosa, Diggs discussed—teams now free to sign without compensatory draft ramifications. “Drips and drabs” of signing expected.
• Intrigue around supplemental draft:
  • Discussion about Sorsby’s situation and Jeffrey Kessler representing him. Schefter predicts a rare (potentially first or second round) pick spent if Sorsby enters.

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5. NBA Insider Shams Charania: Playoff Fallout & Coaching Carousel (34:15–43:10)

• Immediate post-playoff coach firings:
  • Magic fire Jamal Mosley after another first-round exit.
  • “This is just the start of different coaches under evaluation based on playoff outcomes." (35:20, Shams)
• Medical tent updates:
  • Anthony Edwards (Ant Man) pushing to play 9 days after a bone bruise; Joel Embiid’s extraordinary resilience; uncertainty about Luka Dončić’s return.
• Flopping problem and league response:
  • Discussion of Jalen Brown’s comments and broader concerns about officiating and in-game gamesmanship.
• Knicks/Sixers matchup—Tyrese Maxey lauded as difference-maker.

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6. Danny Green: Playoff X-Factors & Old School Grit (44:28–55:54)

• Veteran perspective on bouncing back from injury and adversity:
  • “For the Lakers, OKC's defense and chemistry are the key; but Bron always gives you a chance…” (49:31, Danny Green)
• On the art of playoff resilience:
  • Importance of dog mentality (Edwards, Doncic), the significance of player leadership, and tactical adjustments.
• Flopping and officiating:
  • “There is a flopping problem, it deteriorates the product, but it's fixable if the league wants to...” (54:00, Danny Green)
• Celebration of Philly and Paul George renaissance.

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7. Emerging Sports Stories

Savannah Bananas Takeover, with Jesse Cole (91:00–102:23)

• Wild Success Story:
  • From sleeping on a mattress, selling two tickets in three months, to selling out Texas A&M’s 100,000-seat stadium.
• Reinvention of baseball as showmanship:
  • Rule changes (“no bunting... fans catch foul balls for outs”), circus acts, and interactive live events.
• Business philosophy:
  • “Fan first moments…We might never ‘arrive,’ but every game is another chance to entertain and innovate.” (96:13, Jesse Cole)
• Expansion & vision:
  • International ambitions, pop-up games, possibly taking Banana Ball to places as wild as Times Square or even the moon!

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8. LPGA Superstar Nelly Korda: Candid Conversation (103:05–129:25)

• Mental Fortitude & Mastery:
  • On bouncing back from a winless year: “Sports humble you in every possible way…stay with your people, keep perspective, bounce back.” (106:32, Nelly Korda)
• On her perfect golf swing:
  • “My dad always ingrain[ed] in my brain... ‘Coca-Cola’ – that rhythm for fluidity... But you always revert back to your tendencies.” (109:10)
• Golf as a family and life pursuit: Discusses growing up around tennis, picking golf for the social, all-ages aspect.
• Golf advice for amateurs:
  • “Number one: learn how to aim—have a stick on the range.” (121:47, Nelly Korda)
  • Short game drills, don’t swing out of your shoes, swing your swing.
• Personal tidbits:
  • Reveals new fandom for Green Bay Packers (fiancé’s influence), love for Lambeau Field (120:26).

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9. Around the Horn: F1, Soccer, Baseball, and WWE (65:00–75:00, 131:05+)

• F1 Miami Grand Prix:
  • Surprise emergence of 19-year-old Kimmy Antonelli, Max Verstappen’s struggles, and Mercedes dominance.
• MLS & Lionel Messi:
  • Miami games selling out, stadium hype, Messi’s on-field and off-field persona.
• Baseball updates:
  • Tigers’ ace Tarik Skubal to undergo arm surgery (“loose bodies”), team ramifications for Detroit.
• WWE & Pop Culture:
  • Star guests (Peyton Manning, Luke Combs), debate about John Cena’s involvement, “the Cena puddle” as a metaphor for nostalgia acts in wrestling.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Parenting & Perspective

• “Normally perspective comes from, like, bad things, man. MacKenzie's third birthday is an incredible thing. Great perspective coming from that. My birthday. Great perspective coming from that.”
  — Pat McAfee (62:53)

Adam Schefter on the Pick is In

• “NFL Films does such a great job with these shows and it’s a real look...at what goes in to these trades, these picks, the choices that each team has...”
  — Adam Schefter, on draft coverage (22:55)

On A.J. Brown’s Trade

• “I still think all these elements are in place…the sides will get together and complete a trade that will send AJ Brown to the New England Patriots.”
  — Adam Schefter, (26:13)

On Playoff Dog Mentality

• “Ant Man, his dog mentality is like the only way I can kind of describe it. What do you think that means to his team?”
  — Pat McAfee (45:14)
• “It means the world to his team…His numbers against the Spurs this year, I think, pretty astronomical… He could change the narrative.”
  — Danny Green (45:34)

Savannah Bananas’ Founder, Jesse Cole

• “Our goal was just to make baseball fun...We had a male cheerleading team, the Man Annas, the dad bod cheerleading squad, Banana Nanas...but after a few years, fans were still leaving games early. That’s when we said: we have to change the rules and create a new game."
  — Jesse Cole (91:53)
• “We’ve never arrived. We’re just getting started and that’s the mindset. I believe we’re going to take this all over the world…”
  — Jesse Cole (96:13)

Nelly Korda on Adversity and the Art of Golf

• “I just feel like I'm living my best life. I think that correlates to maybe my on-course play… I'm having so much fun on the golf course. But I think it came because last year was…a really hard year for me.”
  — Nelly Korda (104:44)
• “If you guys look at my swing from like 2013, you would be like ‘oh, that is so gross.’ … My dad always referred to it as ‘Coca-Cola’…the key to having a very fluid swing.”
  — Nelly Korda (108:57)
• “My first tip is always: learn how to aim.”
  — Nelly Korda (121:47)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00–03:00: Pat’s opening, daughter’s birthday, NBA/NHL play-in context
• 03:00–12:00: NBA/Celtics/Bruins collapse, Derby, Pistons playoff heroics
• 15:53–21:37: NHL playoff breakdown, Avalanche-Wild instant classic
• 22:05–33:07: Adam Schefter on draft, AJ Brown trade, supplemental draft drama
• 34:15–43:10: Shams Charania - NBA coaching news, Ant Man/Embiid/Luka medical
• 44:28–55:54: Danny Green on playoffs, Sixers-Celtics fallout, OKC-Lakers, flopping debate
• 91:00–102:23: Savannah Bananas’ Jesse Cole, business philosophy, expansion
• 103:05–129:25: Nelly Korda interview: career setbacks, technical mastery, golf advice
• 131:05–137:18: Kentucky Derby recap, sports betting, March Madness analogy
• 162:10–164:14: Baseball injury news (Tarik Skubal), impact on Detroit

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Tone & Style

The tone is lively, candid, fun, and welcoming to inside jokes and unexpected detours. McAfee balances lighthearted banter with insightful, occasionally emotional discussions, blending deep sports analysis, fan commentary, and cultural reflections.

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Conclusion

• The episode showcased a sports world packed with upsets, comebacks, and history-making performances (NBA, NHL, and Kentucky Derby).
• Robust discussion on athlete resilience (Nelly Korda, Anthony Edwards), sports innovation (Jesse Cole/Savannah Bananas), and the changing business of pro sports (NFL free agency, draft, and trades).
• Fan engagement, both in sports consumption and in the communal/experiential nature of emerging leagues and stadium concerts, was a recurring celebration.
• The show tied it all together by keeping things immensely relatable, always returning to themes of family, overcoming adversity, and the joy of the game.

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Be a friend, tell a friend: something nice might change their life.

Transcript

[Pat McAfee]

Hello, beautiful people and welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome on this overreaction. Monday, May 4, 2026. This sports program begins now. Sports are absolutely fantastic and we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about them every single day. The weekend was loaded with sports. Awesome. But I do have to take a moment to celebrate. It is my daughter's third birthday today. Happy birthday, Mackenzie. Happy birthday. I have no idea if she's watching this right now or will be forced to see it later in life. MacKenzie has turned three. It's been 1095 days. I do believe of just absolute magic as I learn what love is through the eyes of a little baby girl named Mackenzie. Mackenzie, I love you. I can't wait for you to get into sports more. Remember, she had a run with soccer this year. It was a little hit or miss, but she certainly showed up, kicked the balls and she's the goat and obviously. But baby on the way and mama's kicking ass. So we, we appreciate you, Mackenzie. Happy birthday, pretty girl. She's gonna be. I think it's a 2040 World Cup.

[Connor Rogers]

There it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. In 2039 Olympics. I do believe if my math is right, she has a chance to potentially be the youngest for both of those 2035. We are still on track. You know, with how it's going. I'm seeing 16 year olds playing over in Germany. I got a lot of stuff. But nonetheless, I cannot wait to watch her continue to grow. You're a badass. Happy birthday. Now may the fourth be with all the Star wars nerds out there too, which I massive respect for. My family is Star wars nerd, as you hear. Toxic table. One of those. Let's just enjoy anything that is a celebration. We will certainly do that. Sports had a lot of it this weekend. There are some hearts broken. There are some hearts broken as the first round of both the NBA and the NHL playoff series are now officially done. And we've moved on to the final eight for both of those. And just know the city of Boston was representing in both of those sports. They now no longer have a team in any race. Speaking of race, Golden Tempo, congratulations big time win. Sherrod Devoe, first ever woman trainer for a derby winner. I think we're going to get a chance to catch up with her this week. Should be a blast. So many great things happen. Golden tempo is way back there in the ass end of the horse. They never want to be on the ass side of a horse. You always want to be on the nose side of a horse and Golden Tempo says I don't like being back here. A mudder, a finisher, a closer, a cold weather giant. Golden Tempo, 23 to 1 odds, making a run. Hi, hi, hi. Would get to the final stretch and it would turn into a two horse race between Golden Tempo, the first ever horse that was trained by a woman in a Kentucky Derby to go on to win. Taking on Renegade, owned by Rapole, both jockeys brothers. The Ortiz brothers are battling against each other. We're coming down the final track. Bang. Renegade, the favorite loses. Golden Tempo, Kentucky Derby champion. What a race. What an incredible, incredible photo here by Gabby Sorrentino at G. Sorrentino tv I believe she's social media, does a lot of digital stuff. Gets an incredible photo of the Ortiz brothers here finishing one two. Sherry Devoe I believe will be joining the program this week. Cannot wait to talk about it. It was nice watching it. Yeah, more viewers than they've had in forever, I guess. 19.5 million viewers or whatever the case was. Huge, huge ratings for the Kentucky Derby. Anytime sports get celebrated, we appreciate it. And that's what we're going to talk about today. All of them. We got Schefter joining us in about 10 minutes. He was a part of a series called the Pick is in.

[Connor Rogers]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Brought to you by NFL Films.

[Toxic Tone]

Good, good. Great.

[Pat McAfee]

Had no idea what's happening. That's on us.

[Toxic Tone]

Is it on us?

[Pat McAfee]

That's on us.

[Connor Rogers]

There's a lot of other stuff going on and probably the worst possible time you could have ran that. But I agree, we, we should have known.

[Pat McAfee]

ESPN, 7 o' clock Sunday, everybody knows that's whenever you run something that's brand new from NFL Films and Sky Dance. How did we not know about that? Those clips are awesome. How did we not know about there

[Connor Rogers]

four game sevens yesterday.

[Pat McAfee]

Were we in it? Yeah, you? I don't know.

[Toxic Tone]

You tell me.

[Pat McAfee]

I have no. Was Chefy miked up the whole time? We certainly had conversations with him in the back. He never did one of these at all. It's like, so who's doing, who's doing what around here? What's that?

[Darius Butler]

I wouldn't expect that.

[Pat McAfee]

Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler. Can we get a common courtesy?

[Darius Butler]

I mean, who knows what, hey, I'm the feds. Hey, watch what you say.

[Pat McAfee]

Just a couple of these. Just one of those. Chefy. We didn't know until I started seeing the clips come out. I'm like, how long was she bugged? I mean what do we.

[Toxic Tone]

What all that's not good. I had a conversation with who that's

[Pat McAfee]

toxic table at boss of Connor and toxic tone right there.

[Toxic Tone]

How we doing?

[Pat McAfee]

Sounds like you're a little bit worried potentially about the happenings of yours. For me I just probably talk shit on somebody that probably, you know, probably was in in. I would never talk any on anybody in NFL films. They know that Skydance either. But geez louise, we need to know whenever people are mic'd up making great things, the pick he's in was fantastic. That was really good. Schefter was a big piece of it. Obvious because he's a mover and shaker was on ESPN alongside NFL Films. Feels like it might be their new hard knocks, you know, because this is something that we don't normally get to see. Finding new stuff as people are trading. Then we have Sean Charani will be here obviously for the NBA. Jesse Cole. Who's Mr. Yellow Banana Suit?

[AJ Hawk]

Yep.

[Toxic Tone]

Formal name.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. At Yellow Tux. Jesse.

[Pat McAfee]

There he is, genius, this guy. Entrepreneur extraordinaire. Ringling circus leader. Yes, I believe. What's that song? The Greatest show. The greatest Showman that it feels like Jesse Cole is from that ilk. Yeah, you know, he is a promoter by nature. Sport of baseball obviously was his first, you know, venture. We'll find out why and how. Now he's selling out football stadiums. 100,000 plus tickets. Insanity for gimmick baseball. Still baseball. Gimmick baseball. Putting on an incredible show. Now what is the demo? Probably younger than us, but anytime something like this is happening in the sports world, you should celebrate the shit out of it. Whatever gets somebody into sports, whatever gets somebody into baseball, whatever gets some somebody out of their house to go celebrate something in a community type setting which this place, Texas A and M down there. Wonderful community.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean they are all in midnight before the midnight yell. I got a chance to be there. They had 30,000 people packed into the stadium at midnight the night before. They go 100 some thousand deep here for a Savannah Bananas game against the Texas Tailgaters. And I'll tell you what, he was a nail biter down there. Couple fan outs on a foul ball, all this shit. Unbelievable success story, both business and sports wise. And I believe he was sleeping on like a mat, a mattress at one point in like a garage because he was so in debt as he believed in this thing. Now it's working out pretty well for him. Can't wait to catch up with him. And then Nelly Korda, LPGA Goat. Yeah, we'll be joining us. Can't Wait to talk to her. She has 18 LPGA wins, three major wins, a gold medal winner. She's 27 years old, 10 years on the tour, an absolute stud. And she, hey, I went down to Augusta and Valley Masters. I know I shouldn't have been there. Sure, it was nice to be here. Got a golf lesson. Guy told me I keel head on a brick wall right here like this. Keel head on a brick wall and then load it on the back foot and then go ahead and release that thing. Perfect. She has the perfect swing. She does. She has the perfect swing. And we cannot wait to chit chat with her about how I can maybe get better at the golf. That would be great. But also mentally how she's so damn locked in. Started as a professional, as a 17 year old, feels like we've known of her for a while, has placed, you know, a lot of pressure on her to be the next one. And then whenever she's put, she's dominant and she wins back to back tournaments here, Mexico, yesterday. Last week was the Chevron Championship, which was her third major. Seems to be on a little bit of a heat. Cannot wait to catch up with Nelly Corda. So it should be a fun day. Toxic tables at Boston Conner and at Toxic Tone. Ty Schmidt, he's got good life going on right now. He'll be away for a few. We want to tell Ty and his family we love him. Congrats. Love you, Tyler. Now, on that note, Tyrone, you're sitting right next to a. A Boston fan that just has nothing really going for him. Nothing really going for my head. He's wearing a Patriots hoodie, which I think is a good distraction. But if you walk outside, there's only going to be one thing that people are asking about with the New England Patriots, and that's not ball and that's not make it traffic.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, I don't know what it was.

[Pat McAfee]

Interesting hooves. So I mean that now you got the Celtics just losing to the Sixers. And I'll tell you what, Sixers look damn good at basketball, but Joe Mazzullo, what's going on with this guy? What's going on? Can he win this guy's favor to win, Then he doesn't win. Is he not a winner? When I believe Joe Missoula is one of the best up and coming coaches, one of the best coaches in the NBA going to be around for a long time, they're going to talk about him being a hero. Then they start bringing up stuff like, hey, he was favoring this loss. He was Favoriting this loss. They're supposed to win this one. They're supposed to win this one. They lose this one, this guy can't get the job done. It's like, well, they did win a championship. Not enough though. And I feel like that's how Boston fans feel. So then Boston celtics fans, like, no big deal. Let's go ahead and turn our attention. Oh, the bruins just got their asses beat by the sabre. So tough week end. Tough couple weeks for new Englanders. Are you okay? And what are your thoughts on the state of the second round of these playoffs that no longer have any masshole representation?

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, I mean, I'm okay. Look, the Boston Celtics, I've seen them lose in the finals at home. Recent memory. The Boston Bruins, game seven once again at home. Seeing him lose in the Stanley cup finals. So not the worst possible thing. Now those things don't happen back to back. It was tough having Friday night sabres get killed, roll right into Saturday Celtics. Jayson Tatum doesn't play all of a sudden. How the hell did that happen? Luca Garza's in the starting lineup. What the hell's going on? And then they lose. So it wasn't great. It was very tough. Unfortunately, you know, it's back to the drawing board. You know, I honestly would rather lose right now, especially as the celtics instead of going to the Knicks and getting blown out. And same with the sabres. So the second round of the playoffs will be great. Started last night with the hockey. Fantastic. And the basketball should be good too.

[Pat McAfee]

NBA's got some sweet stuff happening. Here's some hembo stats with the Pistons and 76ers overcoming 31 deficits in a series. This marks the first time in NBA history There were multiple 31 comebacks in a single playoff round. Then remember, the parody was also being talked about with the underdogs winning and the favorites winning. And the NBA seemingly predictable throughout the season because there was a lot of teams trying to be ass. A lot of teams walking out there saying, let's be ass tonight. Hey, top down all ass. Sub them out the wrong times, Sub them in at the wrong times. We're trying to lose as much as we absolutely can. Now those teams are saying, we're trying to rebuild this team, okay? The only way we can rebuild is if we're ass enough that we can potentially win the lottery and get the number one overall pick. And then we get a superstar, maybe even in this upcoming draft class. 1, 2, 3, 4 may be all superstars. So we gotta get up there in the lottery so we gotta be asked now. Well, then there was teams trying to win. So then those teams are run into each other on a very regular basis because there's 82 games in an NBA season and sometimes there'll be 25 point spreads. Yep. Professional sport record, middle of season record breaking point spreads in these games. Because this team's trying to be ass. This team's really good. So we were worried maybe about the NBA playoffs. Is anybody tested or not? Seems like they've been delivering dbut. I love what's been going on. How about the Pistons going down bad?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And then coming all the way back. Cade Cunningham, basically putting a team on his shoulders. Had a lot of turnovers in the first three games. Whenever they were losing to Orlando. Still had 25 points, but he had a lot of turnovers. They just kind of shut the valve off and they go ahead and win that thing. The Stones, I believe is what they're called in Detroit. Yeah, the Stones it is. Let's go.

[Darius Butler]

Foxy made that up. I don't know who he made it up with, but I did some boots on the ground research with some Detroiters and they never heard of Stones. Never.

[Pat McAfee]

That's not true.

[Toxic Tone]

Foxy wouldn't lie to us.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm now 39 years old. My daughter is now 3 years old. I had never heard storms before either before Foxy just dropped it like last week. And then he made me feel comfortable and confident that if I drop this, they're going to think I'm white Boy Rick. Maybe I'm supposed to be talking like Detroit. So I was going to say the Stones just kind of fit in up there. Cuz we got a little beef with Detroit. A couple people up there certainly over the years. Oh yeah. So I was trying to fit in. Turns out it made me look like an.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, me too.

[Pat McAfee]

I made you look like an.

[Toxic Tone]

I remember Tim the Tool Man Taylor saying it on him a whole bunch. Yeah, it was like, hey, boys, you

[Pat McAfee]

want to go to the Owens game? I said, no, he's talking about the Rolling Stones.

[Toxic Tone]

And Brad was like, I love the Stones.

[Pat McAfee]

Brad needed to stay away from the stones.

[Toxic Tone]

AJ's okay.

[Pat McAfee]

That is a real thing. Need to stay away from everyone.

[Foxy]

Forgot we called them the Stones because it's been 18 years since we won a playoff series until now because of Cade Cunningham, JB Bickerstadt and all the boys. Let's go.

[Pat McAfee]

Congratulations. Okay, so maybe we shouldn't have turned that into an immediately a negative conversation because the Pistons have done something they haven't Done a long time, but I like where the NBA is currently sitting. Lakers move on as well. D. But your thoughts on the NBA playoffs as they continue to cook? We'll talk to Danny Green here in a bit.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, I love every year, I love the NBA playoffs. And maybe we thought coming into this season, this first round would have been. It would have been terrible. But to have three game sevens in the first round was incredible. And then the storylines coming out of this one on both sides, obviously injuries, injuries are always a part of. When you get to this part of the season with the Sixers, if Embiid is healthy and motivated and playing the way he played in that game seven, like, I know for me I've been kind of out on him sometimes it's like, okay, he shows up when he wants to. Obviously he's hurt a lot, but. But you can't really control that. But the way he played, the way he gutted out through this injury and kind of set the tone, you clearly see no one can match up when. And once he gets in the paint, obviously he can shoot. I hate when he's shooting threes, but him and then Maxey, Maxey taking over in the playoffs, you always kind of need that guard to take over and get, get some buckets down the stretch. He did that. He, you know, put the lid on that series. VJ Edgecomb as well, Paul George when he's healthy. So 76 is for me and that east is the team that I really got my eyes on. And then on the west, you know, the storylines with LeBron, it's always going to start with LeBron and then OKC, can they go back to back with the MVP? The special season that they're having, Is it Wimby's year? Is it Wimpy's time? And then the Knicks, we know, you know, most of the countries wait for them to fail and for it to all blow up. And then we hear all the loud Knick fans say, oh, this year, next year, the Colts to this, to that. So I love the playoffs. I love where we're at right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we're with great eight teams playing. All of them can obviously go on a run. Oklahoma City, doing it again would be very expected, especially with how they've been playing. But why not Wemby taking over something in the West? He would have to get past Ant man and Timberwolves. How is Ant man memory? Like what Sham's? Join us here in about 15 minutes for a drive by.

[Connor Rogers]

Sure, sure, we'll see.

[Pat McAfee]

Just need a Hot five.

[Toxic Tone]

Is he driving an RV or not?

[Pat McAfee]

A deep dive? No, he's doing just Flintstones car. Josh Hard of the Knicks actually spoke about Tyrese Maxi. Man, you just spoke highly of Tyrus Maxi. Obviously the. Clearly the fastest human on any basketball court anytime he's on a basketball court. Josh Hart was asked about how he plans on defending him. He said he's gonna ask him just kind of slow down.

[Connor Rogers]

Smart might help.

[Pat McAfee]

Can you chill, dude? Can we do a little bit of that? I used to do that to punt returners. It did work for a couple guys. I think it's not a bad idea. Maybe just plant the seed. I don't think you should say it publicly that you're gonna try to do it. I think you should have done it naturally. So he's gonna have to find another way to get that message. But Maxey. Unbelievable. How about Paul George? Yeah, yeah. Still doing Paul George having a little bit of resurgence on his birthday. And Joe, happy birthday May 2nd. He's a May 2nd birthday as well. Shout out to the Rock and David Beckham.

[Toxic Tone]

Cool birthday.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a good birthday. Yeah. And I think the queen rest in peace. You know, I think she was also Joel Embiid though. He's got.

[Toxic Tone]

Hey does he does like the wiggle

[Pat McAfee]

when he does a little turn fade thing when he's playing. It is unbelievable. That's why I was pumped he chose America play for. For the Olympics. Yeah. Because we knew we were going to need him at some point. What's that tone? Toxic. Done. You don't like that he chose to be a part of the United States of America.

[Toxic Tone]

I do like that. But like, I mean he's played for other countries but before, so I just didn't understand how that works. But you know, that's, that's, that's a me problem.

[Pat McAfee]

It's nil, baby.

[Toxic Tone]

I'm just not matter. I'm just not cultured enough.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, definitely. Okay, let's move away from the NBA before we will revisit it shortly. The NHL playoffs.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay?

[Pat McAfee]

We've told everybody that has ears and within earshot of these lips, the NHL playoffs are worthy of a watch. Okay? These dudes are flying on blades that are this thin broken everything happening in their body. You'll never hear about it dangling, going crazy. I mean just so many storylines, legacies, legends, everything being created in real time in one death defying feat of a sport, which is hockey. It is just outrageous what hockey is, especially in the playoffs whenever these psychos, who are they have a daredevil mentality. All these hockey players, these psychos are just like on a do or die every single 40 seconds of their life, which is how long a shift it lasts. They're just out there killing it. Rest in peace to all the teams that didn't survive first round.

[Toxic Tone]

A lot of good teams in there.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of great teams.

[Darius Butler]

Oh yeah. Not really, no.

[Toxic Tone]

A lot of.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of great teams.

[Connor Rogers]

Banged up too.

[Pat McAfee]

A lot of great teams.

[Toxic Tone]

There was a lot of upsets, sure. Four favorites moved on. Four dogs moved on. As far as series pricing in the first round of the playoffs. So you never know what's going to happen.

[Pat McAfee]

So the NHL showing up in a big way.

[Toxic Tone]

Parody is what they call it.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's talk about the first game that we've seen in the second round. Okay. Let's talk about Avalanche Wild being wild on the ice. Somebody goes 14 different goal scorers. And if you don't like hockey, you have to like excitement. How about there being 15 goals? Let's go to the Wild at Avalanche. Okay. Which became an immediate classic upon Avalanche goal Sam Malinson. Booo. Unbelievable. From Malinksi. That's one nothing Colorado, considered the best team in hockey. Potentially best team of all time. 2 Nothing Jack Drury. Drury. Let's go to continue in the first period.

[Toxic Tone]

Hey, Dangles Cook so sick.

[Pat McAfee]

Saucy off the wall to himself. Watch this replay. Passes it off the wall, off the pad. Sorry. To himself. Let me go. Turn around, bounce it back. Boom. Lock it in. 3 nothing. This team's gonna murder the Minnesota Wild, right?

[Toxic Tone]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

This team's gonna absolutely saw three nothing Minnesota Wild. That was a cute story. Welcome to the show. What end of Minnesota? Well, you know, why don't we all relax just for a second. Marcus Johansson. Three one now Abs still in the first period. Let's go to Ryan Hartman. Grimy one underneath, takes a huge shot. Three, two. Quinn Hughes, brother of Jackie Hughes. The Hughes hockey dynasty. Family cooks sauces. Go time. Hartman 1. 3, 2. Colorado Avalanche as we continue here, Nick Blankenberg. Over two sticks. Over the hill, through the tunnel, right. The blankenburg stick. Nasty. 42 Colorado. 6 goals still in a second. 13 minutes left. This is hockey all of a sudden. Scored a touchdown, ladies and gentlemen. Tarasenko off escape filthy just

[Toxic Tone]

king.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh, named after Colorado Avalanche great Peter Forsberg.

[Pat McAfee]

Love the Forsburg goal right there in Colorado. 43 Colorado. Let's keep it moving here. Quinn Hughes and get the goalie going back. Stops on a dime, cuts back lefty sensation. He's a defensive boom. Chad goal. Just like he had a game winner in a semifinal of the Olympics. 4 3, 4, 4. Now still in the second period. We got eight goals going. Marcus full on a dime. Shorthanded goal, and takes out the net immediately afterwards. Shorthanded goal. You know, with shorthanded, a power play, you normally see fast breaks. Marcus says, I got you and I'm gonna take out your net, punk. Five four. Still in the second. Colorado was up three zero. Now they're behind by one. What happens next? Well, how about Devin taze height go 5, 5, 10 goals still in the second period here. Still brewing. Cale McCarr, first of two. This will look very familiar. Maybe a little deja vu here in a few Nasam Kadri. 6 5.

[Toxic Tone]

Still, are we playing defense?

[Pat McAfee]

14 minutes left.

[Darius Butler]

No defense.

[Pat McAfee]

No defense at all. Who cares? 7 5. Still in the third. 403 left. Queen Hughes with a nasty backhand dump in there. Matt Zuccarello. Goal. 7 6. Now it's 13. That's a touchdown. Two touchdowns, one missed extra points. Third period. 257 left. Kale McCarr. Once again, from the same exact spot. Came a car. One of the goats, they'll say. Now, what's the score? Oh, 8 to 6. 14 goals in the second round of the playoffs. Let's send one in from behind our own Blue line. Nathan McKinnon gets one on the empty net. 15 goals, 14 different goals. The overhead, the over hits in the Avalanche. An insane game one against the Minnesota Wild in second round of the NHL playoffs. If every game's gonna be like that, let's go. Let's have one. Should be, hey, let's have one. Goalie's not seeing defense not doing nothing. Electrifying. Are they changing the rules so that we doofuses can fall in love with the offense and the excitement like the NFL did?

[Darius Butler]

I certainly hope so. This reminds me of, like, growing up and tuning in to McGuire or Sosa or bombs just going yard two or three times per game. So, yeah, maybe just keep the goalie standing on their feet and not their heads.

[Pat McAfee]

Let's pivot away from the NHL and its electrifying second round of the playoffs, which started with the Avalanche in the wild. Let's go to the NFL, which is always a buzzing. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from a commercial shoot, Adam Schefter, senior. What up, senior?

[Adam Schefter]

Gentlemen. What's going on?

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, how are you doing, man? Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day. What do you got going on? You look great in that suit.

[Adam Schefter]

Thank you, Pat. I appreciate that. We are here doing a Masters of the Universe commercial here in Bristol, Connecticut.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, how many lines do you have

[Adam Schefter]

so far exactly to my capacity? 0.0 so far.

[Pat McAfee]

Are you just on your phone?

[Adam Schefter]

I've mastered them.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Are you just on your phone in the back or what are you doing?

[Adam Schefter]

I am wielding a 25 pound sword to try to save the day and so far I think I've succeeded so far.

[Pat McAfee]

Well done. Okay, let's see if you succeed in your regular job here, which you've obviously crushed at the picket in was phenomenal. Were you miked up the entire night and have you watched the clips back and kind of relived what the draft was and how crazy all of it went?

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I know that, you know, the funny part about that was someone had mentioned to me that I might be doing it. I'm like, okay, yeah, no problem. Like, we'll figure out what we can do. And the next thing I know, NFL film shows up the day before and they're like, here, we're going to wire you up and you'll be wired for two straight days and we're going to be following you in the, in your little pot. Like, we never went over any of this and it just kind of dropped on me at the last moment. Nobody, nobody called to say this is what's happening. And you know, it's a little embarrassing. I get very intense during these times. Like that kind of comes through. But the NFL Films does such a great job with these shows and it's a real look behind the scenes, a glimpse behind the curtain at what goes in to these trades, these picks, the choices that each team has. I started to watch it last night, honestly was captivated. And then my family and I got diverted by some dog issues and we will get back to it tonight or tomorrow.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I'm sorry to hear that about your dog issues. Obviously you understand how that all goes from our side. So positive vibes there. Back to the pick is in us. Watching was interesting because first we realized, oh, Schefter was mic'd up that entire time we were talking to him backstage. Fascinating. I think a lot of the boys were trying to recalculate every convo they had. I hope they had you on camera when you walked directly into the puddle. Whenever George Pickens was intending to sign with the franchise tag with the Cowboys, which he.

[Adam Schefter]

I gotta say that, I gotta say that that was shortly after I found out, or at least was of the mind, that there was a real possibility that night that the Rams were gonna take Ty Simpson. I got a call literally right before that. And so I was in my own element and I stepped right into that puddle as I'm standing with. With you and who else? Frost there? Marcus Freeman. Marcus Freeman, yeah. AJ Was there, right? Exactly. And so like I was in my own universe, not a master of my universe at that moment, and just stepped right into the puddle as I was processing the Ty Simpson information and how it was going to play out that night.

[Pat McAfee]

I think you're a mastering the universe in your own way. I mean, completely locked in, oblivious to everything happening around you. We appreciate you Wielding the 25 pound sword for us today in that commercial shoot that you're doing for the Masters of the Universe. Let's talk about about the stories of today in the NFL. A.J. brown told a bunch of kids, I love you. Hey, listen, I don't care what you hear. Just know that I love you, okay? And just know that that's the case at his youth camp this past weekend. First of all, love that AJ Brown does a youth camp in Philadelphia. Hell yeah. Love that he does that. Obviously, everybody is presented with the opportunity to do as such. The NFL has a great support system to be able to put these camps on for you. Agencies have put on camps for people. So just doing it and putting the effort into doing it is something in of itself that should warrant a little bit of a celebration to give back to the next generation and to the community. So I appreciate AJ Brown doing this camp because anybody can. The fact that he does is sick. Now let's get to what he said. Hey, that sounds a little bit like. It sounds a little bit like a breakup's potentially coming and there's gonna be some. I don't care what they say.

[Nelly Korda]

All right?

[Pat McAfee]

I love you. Don't you Worry about Uncle A.J. coach A.J. always love you. They're gonna say I said bad things about your city. It's not you. Is that what that is? Or how should we view this as he tells these youth campers that he appreciates everything.

[Adam Schefter]

Well, I think he knows where his future is headed at this moment. And it'll be a matter of the Patriots and the Eagles getting together to basically process the trade, finalize the trade, make sure it happens. But again, there's nothing that has transpired here, despite all the events in New England, that has deterred this trade from coming off. I still think it is on track. I still think it's going to happen. I still think it will involve a future one likely a 2028, first round draft pick. I still think all these elements are in place and I still think that once we get to June that these two sides will get together and complete a trade that will send A.J. brown to the New England Patriots. Now again this morning I was watching ESPN SportsCenter early and they had a piece where they were doing their features on I scored a touchdown, the super bowl. And I saw that they had A.J. brown on this one. They were featuring his touchdown in the Super Bowl. He says, hi, I'm A.J. brown, Philadelphia Eagles. And I thought to myself they may have to edit that in about a month here, coming up here. That's what I think. But we'll see how it all plays out.

[Pat McAfee]

I like that you can't enjoy content. You have to correct it. I appreciate that. I have a similar issue, but I do like the fact that he, they have it on tape, you know, and he has a great history with the Eagles. I mean they did great things together. Hey, that was a great trade by the Eagles for him from the Titans. What a title. Okay, that was, that was obviously worked out very well for both sides. If it is over in June, as if you have basically guaranteed and confirmed hell of a run. Can't wait to see him in New England. New England. People need something to bring him upbeat a little bit. Lot of whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa right now, you know, gotta wait till at least June 1 that something's coming around to bend. Let's talk about some other quick stories here as you have an out in your to save the world soon. Go ahead, Tone.

[Toxic Tone]

Yes, Shefty. Now that the draft has cleared, teams are starting to look at the free agents that were left over. Njoku is visiting the Chargers. Juan Jennings last week was visiting the Vikings. There's others out there, Bosa, Stefan Diggs. There's a lot of big names left with those ones. The first ones, Njoku and Juan Jennings, they let him out of the building. So does that mean he's not going to Minnesota? What's the update on the latest big name free agents?

[Adam Schefter]

You know, those are some compelling names and some players that could help some rosters and we're past the compensatory draft pick period. So now these players can sign with these teams and teams don't have to worry about how it will impact their future compensatory draft pick. So I would imagine you'll see some of these guys fall into place here as you mentioned. And Joku visiting the Chargers. We had Juwan Jennings kicking off with the Vikings last week. These Guys have waited for their number and the number in May is not going to be as much attractive as they would like. That's the issue. So at what point do we get to a spot where the players say, okay, I'm willing to live with what they're offering. I'm comfortable enough with what's on the table to accept an offer to move forward. And I think that's the process that all these players, some big name players who could provide some real production are now going through. And, and all these guys will get jobs by and large, I think, before training camp. But it'll come in drips and drabs is the way I would imagine.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, a couple of drips and drabs. Let's talk about some drips and drabs quickly as you have about 30 seconds. Go ahead, con man.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Shaft. A very serious situation with Sorsby and granted, you know, a lot of things have to happen, but let's say that he is cleared and you know, he is able to enter the supplemental draft. Do you think a lot of NFL teams would be interested in Sourceby? Did you get a read, especially around draft time, like, hey, there were already teams looking forward to him being in the draft next year and how do you see that situation playing out if he is, you know, all the legal things are kind of done with.

[Adam Schefter]

Kind of glad you asked that question before I had to go save the universe because to me this is a really compelling storyline here that's going to play out here in the next few weeks. If his eligibility is not restored, and I don't know that it will be, there's a real possibility that he will then try to enter the supplemental draft. And the last time I think a player has been picked in the NFL supplemental draft was in 2019. So it's been a while since there's been a player who's picked and I do think that if he gets into the supplemental draft and the league agrees to have a supplemental draft, all questions that would have to be answered here in the coming weeks. I think that we would get a team that uses a high pick, a high pick on Brendan Sorsby. Now, I don't know whether that's going to be a first round draft pick. Interestingly enough, the New York jets have three first round draft picks, but the way I understand it is if you're going to give up one of your ones, that could be the highest pick. And so I don't know that anybody in a draft that has this many quarterbacks next year is going to be willing to give up its one. That'll be a question. But I absolutely think that once we get past round one, if nobody did it there, put in for him, I think we could absolutely see round two. Somebody put in for Suresby at that point in time that would not surprise me. And by the way, I wouldn't be floored if he went in the first round either. Like, there are a lot of people that think he is a real talent, a bona fide prospect, and I think this is going to be one of the great storylines that plays out here over the next couple of months. Does he have his eligibility restored? Does he enter the supplemental draft? If he's in the supplemental draft, where is he going? Because I think it's going to be fairly high.

[Pat McAfee]

And what's the deadline again for the declaration?

[Adam Schefter]

His agent was told by the league that it was June 30. The league has told me there's no deadline. I think that it's such a rare circumstance that nobody really has the actual answer. They're still sorting through it. But I would think here in the next five, six weeks he'll know and really that question will be answered. He hired Jeffrey Kessler, the notary attorney. If he can get his eligibility restored, not even a question or an issue. But if he can't and he's going to try to enter the supplemental draft, we have to see if the league is going to have the supplemental draft. I don't know the deadline is the issue, but they'll figure out a way to get it worked out.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, deadline is certainly a thought if the NCAA is involved because they don't move that quick. If he was to with Jeffrey Kessler, who repped Jordan, I believe whenever he took on NASCAR in this monopoly thing that was happening before the season, I believe he's been a part of bounty gate. I believe he's been a part. Jeffrey Kessler has experience in these waters, I do believe so hopefully he's able to expedite the entire process. We'd like to let source be know though, that if he gets a fresh opportunity to go to the NFL and this, all this other stuff kind of just stops if that's the case. Not a bad idea there either. But hey, do you do your thing and we hope you get all the help that you need going forward, Sourceby, because you're a hell of a talent. We don't need you wasting it. We need you on the field for at least 15, 20 years. That's how we feel about it all.

[Adam Schefter]

Look at the last case that Jeffrey Kessler just won. Look at the last case he just won, the streaming movies case. That was him.

[Connor Rogers]

Sure.

[Adam Schefter]

He. This guy, he's the man kind of gets it.

[Pat McAfee]

What Chef, he's saying, well, now there's literally millions of dollars at stake here for swords being college or in the NFL. You're the man. Go save the universe. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Adam Schefter. You for taking time. Fascinating, though, because if he says he's no longer doing the NCAA college, then the NCAA investigation would stop, right?

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah. Unless they have to do what's called where. But he couldn't even come back, so they wouldn't even have to do show applause.

[Darius Butler]

Har.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, Cuz Harbaugh just. What? Shut it down. He can't get my phone and I'm going to Los Angeles.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Toxic Tone]

Okay. Well, you can't coach in the NCAA for 10.

[Pat McAfee]

We didn't really hear anything else after. It's like swordsby could be the first player to be like, what's that? The NFL is saying that I could decide today's the day. All right. Hey, we need to see your phone. Okay.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Toxic Tone]

It is interesting for a team like the jets, like Chef he was talking about, that has three first rounds. They're like, yes, we'll do a first. We'll do a supplemental. We'll give away at one of our first for the 2027 draft. Not the first one. Maybe the third of the of our ones.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Can you designate your second first or your third first whenever you do it? I'd assume it's all negotiable. I think, you know, hopefully he's getting the help and got the help that he needed and that he's not going to be addicted to this, which it seems like he potentially is. Became part of his daily habit. From what we learned and heard and saw. We don't know anything about all of the details, but we just know the vague stuff that's been out there. Hopefully he gets to help and if he gets another shot to kind of reset his entire life. And it is the league. Congratulations, man. I hope you take them. Make the most of it. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is senior NBA insider Sham Sharanya. I'm sorry, we talk a little bit there to kind of clear up the Sourcebees stuff as we wrapped it up, because he could potentially just walk out on an NCAA investigation, it feels like. But whatever ends up happening, we know that. We don't know. We hope that the right thing is happening for soresby the human. Now let's move to the NBA. You guys are already firing coaches, huh? Orlando Magic take the number one overall seed, Pistons to seven, and all of a sudden we say, let's get this coach the hell out of here. Is this your standard operating procedure immediately after a loss, you move on from your coach, if that's the decision you're going to make. And how many of these coaches should we see moving on?

[Shams Charania]

Probably, I mean, this is just the start, I think, of different coaches that are being under evaluation based on playoff outcomes. And this Magic team, they went out and got Desmond Bain last offseason and they had expectations to contend in the Eastern Conference. And then this year, they lose in the first round for the third straight year. They were hovering around.500 at different points. Jamal Mosley had a lot of Good that happened. Two division titles, went to the playoffs three consecutive years for the first time since 2011 in Orlando. And listen, he's going to get another shot in the NBA. He's going to get another look. But this is a team that had accumulated a ton of expectation on this team. Jeff Weltman, the president who we just saw right there, he actually got extended during the season, right before the NBA Cup Final Four. So he's going to lead the coaching search for the next head coach of the Orlando Magic. But around Paolo Banchero, Franz Wagner, Jalen Suggs, Desmond Bang, this team has aspirations to contend. The problem is especially those three guys. Suggs, Bankero and Wagner have played about 20% of their games the last two to three years together. And that is going to be an issue whether it's for Jamal Moseley or the next head coach.

[Pat McAfee]

Wagner getting hurt against the Pistons was a big part of the storyline of the Pistons coming back. A lot of people are saying maybe Dusty May gets poached out of Michigan down to Orlando Thibodeau, potentially a name being involved. And how do these coaching searches normally go? Are we going to hear all the names that we potentially just think are available?

[Shams Charania]

We're still very early on this, on this process. Anyone that knows anything about Orlando, they're going to keep things, you know, very buttoned up in terms of. This is now the start of the process. They're. They fired Jamal Mosley. There was a point that I heard over the last few weeks that even though a lot of people on the NBA expected this outcome, if the Magic were to lose in the first round, no real names had surfaced or there was not that back channel conversation that took place. But now Jeff Waltman and the Magic will be going through their search. I mean, listen, there's going to be a ton of names that get thrown around. I particularly don't see Dusty May. I think he has a good thing going at Michigan. I would expect probably this search to focus on guys with experience at the head coaching position, guys that have had a level of success in the playoffs, taking teams deep. Because that's really, if you're trying to compete and contend, that's really what you're looking for.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, let's go to the medical tent. Go ahead, D bud.

[Darius Butler]

Absolutely. Some franchise players, some health updates on Ant Man, Joel Embiid and Luka Doncic potentially coming back.

[Shams Charania]

Yeah, Anthony Edwards, just insane. An absolute Wolverine. Today's nine days to the day. He had a bone bruise, hyperextension in his left knee, and I'm told today he is pushing the, the Timberwolves, their medical staff. He wants to play tonight. He has made it clear to the Timberwolves, the Timberwolves internally didn't expect him to really be a viable candidate to play in a game until game three or game four, when the series shifts back to Minnesota this upcoming weekend. But Anthony Edwards got a workout in on Saturday. He got in a couple, you know, at least one workout on his own as well. Privately. He worked out on Sunday with the team. He has not gone through a full practice today. He participated in a significant, he did most everything at shoot around today drills with the first team. And so he hasn't gotten the full clearance from the team's medical staff. But Anthony Edwards right now, as of this moment is pushing the team and he wants to play tonight in game one as this series starts in San Antonio, nine days to the exact date. He had this gruesome looking injury.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And his knee. It was disgusting. I mean, I didn't even want to show it on this show. I said, no, we're not showing it because of how disgusting it was. I don't know how he didn't tear shit, break shit. I don't know how none of that happened. Absolutely phenomenal athlete. And what a stud if he's able to make his way back. Okay, let's talk about some of the other guys that he mentioned there. Joel Embiid, can we talk about him? His resurgence back into my life has been fun because they're recirculating all the hits from Joel Embiid, both as a Twitter star. He was one of the greatest tweeters in the history of Twitter. And obviously as he's grown older, I think he's kind of fallen out of just demoralizing and ruining people online. I think he's more so focused on other stuff. But Tyrese Maxey's unbelievable. Paul George is having a second coming. It feels like the Sixers are real. Is Joel Embiid going to be able to maintain down the stretch and are the Sixers a true threat in the eyes of everybody else? Left for sure, right?

[Shams Charania]

You have to be. Especially the way Joel Embiid is playing. And what's crazy is he's. You're seeing him adapt his game, he's changed his game. He was known as this brute force scorer, but he's spending time at three point line. He's playmaking just for him to be on the court. Him at 70, 80% of what Joel Embiid is known for is better than most players. I mean even, you know, period. They're 100%. So Joe Lombida seems to be healthy. He's listed probable to play tonight, you know, in game one. So the expectation obviously is that he plays. But the run that Philadelphia was on and I just think about everything Joel Embiid has been through throughout his playoff career. He's dealt with ligament damages in his knee. He's dealt with ligament damages in his fingers and thumbs. He's dealt with bell's palsy on his face. He's dealt with orbital fractures. He has had every injury you can possibly imagine on the human body all around the playoff time. Some, some of them he's gutted out, some of them he's not been able to gut out. And this year, even in that game in game seven, he. It looked like he hyper extended his knee multiple times and he played through it. He came back just two weeks after an appendectomy. Just for him to play. Obviously for them, that gives them a chance.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Hell yeah. I can't wait to watch it. We've been trusting the process long time. Long time over there. Gotta go metal though. Metal. Excited to see it kind of get to the mountaintop now. Let's talk about the Lakers. They got to take on obviously the mountain right now. Luka going to be back this series where our expectations on John playing basketball.

[Shams Charania]

Yeah, Luka Doncic, all expectation he's going to be out to start the series. My understanding as of yesterday he hadn't done full fledged contact work. Full fledged like really, you know, un unabated running like he's, he hasn't gone full fledged yet when it comes to that. And so obviously you have to be able to run fully do some contact workouts, one on one, two on two, whatever. In order to be able to play in games. I know. One on one, two.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. We don't have enough time in the calendar. I don't think. If he's not doing any.

[Darius Butler]

Don't do that.

[Pat McAfee]

If he's not doing one on zero,

[Darius Butler]

I want to play.

[Shams Charania]

You know, Ant is. Is doing these full, hard workouts. Individual workouts.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Shams Charania]

Just like it's playing in the game, you know, to be able to run and play. I think even you, if.

[Pat McAfee]

If.

[Shams Charania]

Even if individual, you're. You're able to run with no limitations, I think maybe then you're just like, hey, I'm playing. I don't. I don't care what you say.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. But we know Luke is a dog. We know Luke is a dog, too. We know he'll have a beer immediately out. We know he's a dog.

[Shams Charania]

I will also say the hamstring is a little bit different than, you know, a twisted knee, per se. Like if you're dealing with a bone bruise, hyperextension. Some things are pain tolerance. If a hamstring. If you're not able to push off your leg with a soft tissue injury, that can also be different.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I mean, hammies. Hammies just decide, too. They kind of pick and choose when you're coming back, when you're not. Yeah. And if you're just not far enough back and you decide to go, the hamstring will punish you immediately. It'll say, yeah, actually, we're going to continue to do this, which is always the fear. Can't live in your fears, but you do have to make decision for yourself and your team. We appreciate you joining us. Shams, you're the man.

[Shams Charania]

Appreciate you guys. Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

Is Giannis getting traded or.

[Shams Charania]

Ask me next time. Ask me. We're not there yet.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. To Boston, maybe suspended.

[Pat McAfee]

Is Jalen Brown gonna be in trouble because he's streaming, saying he's ref's harass. They got an agenda against me.

[Darius Butler]

Good stream.

[Pat McAfee]

I was great.

[Shams Charania]

I do, I do. I do expect the league to look into this situation.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Tell them to subscribe. Tell them to send some subs. Actually, tell the NBA to look into it and subscribe. We appreciate them doing that. Ladies and gentlemen. That's coming. Ring the bell. NBA. You're gonna watch at least. Yeah. Sub. At least give some subs. You're a league. Geez. Gotta have enough. He did just kind of hop right on there.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. It was a big time. Just shut up.

[Darius Butler]

You didn't like it?

[Pat McAfee]

What are you talking about?

[Connor Rogers]

Like give it a week maybe like to just go.

[Toxic Tone]

Sorry.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Toxic Tone]

New home. I'm trying to figure it out.

[Pat McAfee]

Geez Louise.

[Toxic Tone]

Chair was a little low.

[Pat McAfee]

I think Ty likes his feet to ride a little high. Yeah, yeah, he always got his feet up. Kind of does his little. We got the thing. Ladies and gentlemen, let's continue with the NBA conversation with a man who is one of four players to win a title with three different teams. The spurs, the Raptors, the Lakers. He was a second rounded out of North Carolina and NCAA champion, ladies and gentlemen, a one time all defense team which we like.

[Toxic Tone]

Yes we do.

[Pat McAfee]

Bob Wood.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's probably. He's done edited his camera until so many times.

[Connor Rogers]

The best ever.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh. Ladies and gentlemen, Danny Griffith.

[Danny Green]

Hey, what's up guys? How you guys doing?

[Pat McAfee]

Is this Wood look familiar to you? Huh? This is a Cameron.

[Danny Green]

Oh yeah, yeah. I had some good nights in Cameron. I was fortunate enough to have a good team. I had a good team.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, absolutely. Hey, you're a part of good team. Danny, thank you for joining us. And we don't feel as if you're gonna die at any second. You know, last time when you were joining us, my anxiety, our anxiety through the roof. We know you're a talented driver, we know you understand awareness and everything like that. But at any moment if somebody was high, we would have felt terrible. So thank you for rescheduling here for us.

[Danny Green]

I appreciate you guys making work, making it work for me.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, no problem at all. Okay, let's talk a little bit about Anthony Edwards here. Shams just told us that he is doing everything in his power to play. Just nine days after a hyperextension of his knee that caused a bone bruise. Whenever you see a player like Anthony Edwards, his dog mentality is like the only way I can kind of describe it. What do you think that means to his team and what do you think this means to science if he's able to recover this quickly?

[Danny Green]

Danny, I think it means more to his team than to science. You know, like I said, I heard you guys talking about the Luca thing and him, like I said, his not as serious of a tendon issue, it's more of a bruise and how much pain he can endure. So I mean I think it means the world to his team. Like his team knows that he's not leaving him out there. You know, we've seen other cases where guys have had, had some injuries where people might question it and they're like, you know, where's he at? Why is he not on the bench? Or why is he not working out with the team? You know, he's actually being around the group and wanting to try to give it a go. And we know how much of a difference it makes for that group when he's on the floor. His numbers against the spurs this year, I think pretty astronomical compared to the rest of the season or against other teams. So it would make a big difference in this series if he can play. Even if he does play and is 100% healthy, I don't know, I'd still probably give the edge to the spurs, but he definitely could make it. He could change that narrative.

[Pat McAfee]

You want a title there? Do you have to say that you feel obligated?

[Danny Green]

Yeah, No, I don't.

[Pat McAfee]

Not at all. You don't, because that's three teams. You're one of four players in history to win with three different teams. Do you feel obligations to represent for each team individually?

[Danny Green]

No. I mean, I try to be not biased. Again, when I was talking to Toronto Cleveland series, I played for both those teams and I'm probably more tied to Toronto than I am Cleveland. And I said Cleveland will win in seven games. So, yeah, I'm not tied. I don't feel like I need to say that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I'm just studying the game. There's proof.

[Connor Rogers]

No big deal.

[Pat McAfee]

Spider's incredible to watch, by the way. Every time it comes playoff time, I think to myself, man, maybe I should watch Cavaliers games during the regular season. And then I immediately remember there's no way I'd be able to do that ever. So I kind of get bummed out about it. But he is a special player. Fun to watch. Dog mentality. You talk about it. He has it, obviously, in bunches. I. I appreciate the fact that tonight on NBC we have two bangers. Sixers at Knicks at 8:00 and then 9:30, Wolves at Spurs. That's gonna be a late one, but obviously the Wemby Anthony Edwards show will be worth it. Let's talk about the Sixers and Knicks. Sixers just knock out the Boston Celtics in such a beautiful fashion. You know, the Sixers are coming. The Sixers are coming. One if by land, two if by sea. And he will be playing. He's Joel Embiid now. What are the chances here that the Sixers are able to continue to go here? And is this the Knicks best path to continue to move forward to try to win a championship?

[Danny Green]

Yeah, I think this is their best goal. But it's not going to be easy one. This is a tough one. It all depends on how healthy Joel is. He was pretty banged up in the series of Boston and got even more banged up toward the end of that series. You know, he took a shot to the knee, ankle, like a couple people landed on him. Obviously, he's kind of on the floor a lot, so that doesn't help. And Tyrese Maxey's been playing at a high level. Paul George, another guy that's kind of reemerged himself and look like a younger pg. So those guys have been playing well. VJ Edgecomb has been hooping some, but it's really going to rely on how healthy, you know, Joel is. Matching up with Karl Anthony Towns and Mitchell Robinson, like, those two guys have. Have really dictated the series because of how they control the boards and rebounds. And then, you know, it's going to be a challenge for their wings. But if Joel is healthy, they have a pretty good shot. They went to seven games two years ago, you know, with the same kind of group. That shows you how powerful that Joel is and Tyrese Maxey are as a duo.

[Pat McAfee]

I. I would love to see the Sixers go just for the Philadelphia fans. Yeah. Because this Sixers team has been hyped for, what, 10 years now, the process. Right. Has it not been. They've made a lot of moves in and out to try to hype it up even more. Paul George going over there was a massive ordeal. Now it's just like Paul George is on Joel and Tyrese Maxey's team, which is a crazy even thought, and all because Paul George can rattle off, what, 15 straight if he really gets going in the middle of it. Good for Philly. Good for the Sixers fans. Good for Embiid, too. You know, seriously, they need it.

[Danny Green]

They definitely need it.

[Pat McAfee]

Embiid's been embattled, you know, and beating the Celtics is obviously special. Let's go to the west here with obviously a potential dynasty in the making. Go ahead, D. Bud.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, obviously, this Lakers Thunder series, it always starts with LeBron. You beat him in the finals, you won the finals with him. What is it about him on this level? And then what makes OKC so great, so great of a team? And then how do you see this

[Danny Green]

series going, which makes OKC so great? I mean, they have. They have great defense, but it's. It starts with their collective chemistry, like, off the court, on the court. They actually enjoy playing together. You know, they've been together for a couple years. You don't see that often in the NBA, like we're now even in college, because nil, the teams that went far in a tournament, the teams that had juniors and seniors that have been together three or four years, like this group has been together for a couple years now, they have some experience, they have championship DNA. They have a leader in Shay, one of the best players in the world, if not the best player in the world. And only thing that Lakers have a chance because Jalen Williams is out. But Bron, he always gives you a chance. And now you have Austin Reese back. And they're also playing together as a collective. That's the reason why everybody counted them out against Houston, but that's the reason why they beat Houston, because guys like Marcus Smart, Luke Kenard stepping up. And toward the end of the season that last month, they really came together and bonded defensively, offensively, and they're used to playing without guys because all year long they've had Austin out, Luka out, and Bron out. So they know what it's like, what it takes, and who needs to step up when one of those guys goes down. So it's going to be a fun series. Still give the edge okc. See, I'm not biased. I'm a Laker, but I'm. I'm gonna give the edge to okc. And I think this probably goes. You know, I like to see it go.

[Jesse Cole]

Six games.

[Pat McAfee]

Six games. Okay. Like, okay, seeing six. I watched that Oklahoma City team do what they did last year, kind of start this entire crazy pace. And then we ran into Caruso at one of the college game days. Yeah. And I was like, how are you guys doing? He's like, yeah, we've lost like two games or something like that. Like what? This Oklahoma City team's just been dominant right from jump. Danny, is it. Is it a clear head and shoulders difference between them and every other team throughout the season and everything, or do they have some faults that maybe LeBron James will be able to figure out?

[Danny Green]

They are vulnerable. They were head and shoulders start season. They started off like 24:1, but since then, you know, there's another team that they're not playing right now out west that kind of had their number, but they've shown some vulnerability. But toward the end of the season, Shay has just been on a tear even without J Dub. And I think that's where said they have injuries, they've been guys in and out of lineup, so that's where they show some vulnerability. And I guess they weren't great at shooting from the perimeter. So we'll see. You know, obviously the game is about makes and misses and who's going to shoot well from the perimeter. But defensively, I think that's where the difference is.

[Pat McAfee]

And that's why Colombia City is favored to win the championship. That's right, Danny.

[Danny Green]

In the past, you know, three, four years.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right, Danny, absolutely. As you got out there, I finished your thoughts. I think you said something differently than I said, but we both kind of got to the same place. Place at the same time. LeBron James, fun fact. Same age as both head coaches in this series. Same age as JJ and Dags. So shout out to LeBron, another head coach on the floor. You know, that's kind of how it's always been chatted about. I love that the NBA is crushing. I love that the ratings are all the way up into the right now. I also like that there's some drama brewing, Danny. Former player, obviously multiple time champion, now one of the talking heads of sport. Can't wait to get your thoughts on all this. Go ahead, con man.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Danny. He's talking about Jaylen Brown going live on Twitch. As a Celtics fan, I appreciate the access you get. And then at a certain time, it's like, hey, when you say your favorite season of basketball was the season that you played without Jayson Tatum, that kind of rubbed some fans the wrong way, myself included. He did mention in there kind of talking about how, you know, the NBA has a flopping problem. Like Joel Embiid flops. He know he flops, but at the same time, he also knows it's going to help them win and, you know, basically help his team. The same conversation goes on with sga who we were just talking about, you know, kind of knowing your spots and just knowing how the game is called. What is kind of your entire take about the whole entire kind of flopping thing. I know a couple years back they tried to change it. Where kind of the landing zone where if it wasn't an unnatural shooting motion and you did that, then it wasn't actually a foul. That kind of seems to have dwindled to the back and that is getting called again. How do you think they fix it and can they fix it?

[Danny Green]

I think they can fix it. Well, first I want to say I think Jaylen Brown had an unbelievable season and I don't think he met meant his favorite season was without Jason Tatum. I think it was as a collective. They had a great season as a group and adding him at the end of the year said it Twice.

[Pat McAfee]

Danny.

[Darius Butler]

It's his feelings.

[Pat McAfee]

He's allowed to feel how he feels.

[Connor Rogers]

So am I.

[Danny Green]

They showed a lot of character, and he had his best season. And this was a team that had no expectations before the beginning of the season. And they changed that narrative and those expectations throughout the season because of how well they played. But he's right. He's not wrong. I just think the timing was wrong. Like, great message, great messenger, wrong timing. Like right after game seven, you know, you probably wait a little. Wait a little bit of time. But there is a flopping issue. And as a defensive person, like, I'm more biased toward the defense. I would like to see the defense have more, you know, abilities allowed to play it, you know, and be more physical. Only certain teams, certain players are allowed to. But there's a way to cut out the foul baiting. And great players will adjust. They'll still be great. They'll still find ways to score and still get their free throw line. But there is a flop and problem, and they can change it. They emphasize, you know, the beginning of the season, the flopping, where they call technicals. They haven't done that in a long time. So there is a way to change it. The referees have to referee the game differently, and I mean, we'll see if that ever happens. But there is a flopping issue in our league and it kind of thinks deteriorates the product when you have to see so many free throws throughout the game, when you're just trying to watch the flow of the game. But it's definitely doable, something you can change. And I don't think he's wrong.

[Pat McAfee]

James Harden was back on his bullshit yesterday. It was awesome. Yep, it was great to see. It's like if Bob Ross was to come back from heaven and start painting again, you would. You would have to watch it. James Harden had a classic from half court. Guy accidentally puts his hand out, shoots three free throws, gets the 18 points, points. Okay. This fourth quarter, it's like he's definitely getting a 20. Everybody on the court should have known that. He gets right past half court, two guys on him, he literally bounces off a guy, dives out of bounds, spears the coach into the crowd.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. This entire thing gets two more worth 24. It was spectacular to watch. I think he's the first one I think of whenever I go back to, like, being able to get it. Manipulating Baiton, he was so good at. I mean, it was.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And then it was. He's. He's.

[Danny Green]

He's a master class. He was one of the first guys to kind of know how to manipulate the game a little bit. But I would say he was a guy that got hit quite a bit. They stopped calling it for him. But there was other guys like Trey Young that learned how to stop jump backwards. They changed rules for certain guys. You know, Jalen Brunson's in there, SGA is in there, even Luka Jokic, Joel Embiid. Like, there's a lot of guys in there. And the stars, they could say that about every mvp. That's one mvp because they got a lot of free throws. And the argument was you can't touch. It's a skill to know how to draw fouls, but also be that good where guys can't stop you and have to foul you a lot of times. But James is one of the originators and that's how he was one of the best scorers in this game because he also knew how to get to the free throw line.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he was unbelievable. And if you didn't guard him, he was going to make the shot. So he kind of got you in a spot where you got it. You're damned if you do, damned if you don't. Actually, we're shooting three. Thank you so much. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, that's Danny Green. You hit, get this guy half court, accidentally puts his hands out, you're done. Yep, got you.

[Connor Rogers]

It's tough.

[Pat McAfee]

Shoot that thing hit off the side of the backboard. Hour two on the other side. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life.

[Toxic Tone]

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[Pat McAfee]

Are the greatest. And we're so incredibly lucky that we get a chance to chat about it every single day thanks to you. We have no idea why you watch but we appreciate that you do. The fact that you spend time with us is kind of baffling, but we are eternally grateful for it. Hopefully you'll continue to do as such as we continue you to about everything happening in the wonderful sports world. The toxic table is here, but looks a little bit different at Boston. Connor sitting next to Toxic Tone.

[Toxic Tone]

How you doing?

[Pat McAfee]

Ty Schmidt celebrating life. We appreciate you Ty. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is your sweet hoodie.

[Darius Butler]

Yes, sir. Thank you. Someone sent it into the Thunderdome a few months back around Veterans Day, so thank you. Shout out to you.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Shout out to your dad as well. Shout to your family. Shout to the vets. Shout out to everybody that sends something to Thunderdome and just know that's about a 10% hit rate on whether or

[AJ Hawk]

not send a 10% for a reason.

[Darius Butler]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

For a reason.

[Darius Butler]

Hell yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

But not everything makes it through. Obviously we have gates outside, so whenever delivery shows up, it doesn't make it past gate. Then it goes into a purgatory world that we don't know where it is. Some things get in. Some things are not really boxed that well, so they kind of just blend in with everything else and they never get seen. Some things have incredible boxes. For instance, Kennywood sent me a sign that.

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, it did that.

[Pat McAfee]

Can't wait to unwrap that.

[Toxic Tone]

That's a classy organization.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Another sign. Another. I don't know if you saw a slew of polos.

[Darius Butler]

Love that.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I got a Steel Curtain polo.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh, the ones we didn't pick up.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Connor Rogers]

They just sent them in the mail. I like that. I respect that move. I'm assuming whatever you got looks just like that thing, by the way.

[Pat McAfee]

What's that?

[Connor Rogers]

That? I mean, you see it right there right now, bottom left.

[Darius Butler]

It's a good logo on the screen.

[Connor Rogers]

It's fantastic. Classic double down. Maybe sent a bigger one, made it impossible to get out of the box. I loved it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I loved everything about it. Unboxing these things is certainly a problem. And if we do get. If we do get just a little bit. It's like whenever you're golfing and a ball goes into the rough and it disappears. We've all seen it here, right? I'm done looking for it. It's all in this area. I'll drop it here. Okay. If it's hard to find, we're moving on. Oh, yeah, the box is tough to open. We move on, toss it.

[Toxic Tone]

Well, you got to package things with care.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I understand, but I don't need 50 well wraps of tape around that thing. Okay. Both sides, triple sides. Don't need that.

[Toxic Tone]

Maybe it's a. It's a glass Faberge Kenny Wood sign.

[Pat McAfee]

You know what? You're right. Thank you so much.

[Connor Rogers]

Now we see it. It's yellow wood right there. It's still wrapped up because all the damn tape.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm not just talking about the incredible. I'm talking about everything that comes in here. We're very grateful for it, but just know that it is hit or miss on whether or not it makes its way into us and whether or not we see it. But if you send it in, we appreciate you. If you watch, I appreciate that. And that hoodie is awesome. Thank you to your dad and to all veterans out there. Joining us now is in a man who has led a franchise in tackling for how many years now?

[Darius Butler]

I just.

[Connor Rogers]

Hurley was doing it back him or forever since him.

[Pat McAfee]

How long has he been leading it for? Probably seven, eight years, 10 years, probably 2015.

[Connor Rogers]

When you're 2014, he's been retired and

[Pat McAfee]

he probably got it before he.

[Connor Rogers]

So every 2012, 13, 14 years, this

[Pat McAfee]

guy's been the all time leading tackler for the Green bay pockets for 15 years.

[Danny Green]

So easily.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

And the next closest, the guy who's kind of chasing him down, he signed with the Raiders. So it looks like there's going to be another.

[Toxic Tone]

Restart the clock.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, restart it.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, a man who's going to be the all time leading tackler for the Green Bay packers for at least two more generations. A college football national champion, super bowl champion, Ryder cup winner. Ladies and gentlemen, AJ Hawk. Oh, good haircut today on AJ Hawk. How are you, pal?

[AJ Hawk]

I'm doing great. How you guys doing? All right.

[Pat McAfee]

Life is good over here, you know. Daughter's birthday today. Happy birthday to Mackenzie. I appreciate everybody's well wishes and being kind to me over the weekend. All the happy birthday wishes I got AJ it was good for my soul to see the nice things, you know, usually I hate these things. I get really uncomfortable. People are saying really nice stuff to me. I needed it, you know, life had been life and pretty good there for a bit and people were super kind, so I'm very grateful for that. Birthdays are nice, man. You know, perspective is normally something that can only come from a devastating situation. I thought about this this morning more so than maybe ever, especially with MacKenzie's third birthday. Normally perspective comes from, like, bad things, man. MacKenzie's third birthday is an incredible thing. Great perspective coming from that. My birthday. Great perspective coming from that. It's like anytime you can get a reset on how life is kind of being viewed by you, I view it as a good thing. And this weekend was special. This morning was awesome. Celebrating with her. And yeah, life is good, AJ. Sports are awesome too. We got our final eight in the NBA and in the NHL. The MLB's continuing to absolutely crush it. The NFL has drama all the time. Life is good. Age. How are you over there?

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, I'm doing great. Obviously it is weird getting older. You're right. It gives you perspective on certain things. And I think the good thing is you start to not worry about the dumb garbage stuff that you tend to worry about when you're a younger person maybe. So that's a good thing. I think age will bring you at times, especially having kids too, if you realize, like, all right, man, like, we got.

[Pat McAfee]

We're okay.

[AJ Hawk]

My kids are fine.

[Adam Schefter]

We're okay.

[Pat McAfee]

I had a full conversation about whether or not I wanted to continue to be petty. My 40th trip now.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm not there. I'm still. I decided with who?

[Toxic Tone]

Yourself or.

[AJ Hawk]

I mean, you got to be you. It's got to be you.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. But perspective, you know, that would be something that I could get rid of of, you know, evolution. I could. I could get rid of it, but I said it deserves to at least see 40.

[Toxic Tone]

Sure.

[Pat McAfee]

You know, it deserves to at least make it.

[Toxic Tone]

Might as well bring it with over

[Darius Butler]

the hill with you.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly. And then maybe we put her down, you know, because then we'll move on. But it was a nice little. Hey, what do I want to continue to carry? Because this would be my 40th. Right. Right now I'm doing it. This is my 40th.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Cuz you're zero for the first 40th trip.

[Pat McAfee]

Because when you turn 39, you've completed your 39th trip.

[Toxic Tone]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

Because you don't turn one until you've gone 365. Sure. So like, this is currently my 40th trip, I believe. Around the sun. So it's like, how do I want this one to go? I had a full conversation with myself. Full this first time.

[Connor Rogers]

Out loud.

[AJ Hawk]

Was that loud.

[Pat McAfee]

A couple of them made their way to my ears, you know, Normally it was inside. I'd catch myself late going, yeah, but why would I do that? And who am I talking to right now? Myself. Okay, let's go ahead and move on. Maybe we stop that. Maybe we don't do that for the 40s. But yeah, it was cool. It was cool to see what I want to continue to do. And I do believe Mackenzie's the main changer and driver of basically everything in that, you know, it's cool. Yeah, she's awesome.

[AJ Hawk]

That's how. That's. That is how it works. You're right. And she's getting at the age too, where. Yeah, it's getting super fun. You got another one on the way that. And you know, you already heavily involved in sports. I heard you talking about her soccer young soccer career already early in the show today.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. 2030, she's going to be ours. 2040. She's going to be the youngest ever, I think in the World Cup. And then we need her.

[AJ Hawk]

We need her.

[Pat McAfee]

She's ready. She's ready in the women's national team for soccer has been so good for so long. She understands that it's an elite bunch and she's going to work for it. She understands. She's. She's going to understand she's got to work for it. She's got a lot of energy, which I like.

[Connor Rogers]

Huge.

[Pat McAfee]

She love little people, which I. Which I do like. And I think she's naturally kicking the ball lefty, which is good because we got a little. Some messy tape to show her. You know, we got some. He is, isn't he?

[AJ Hawk]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's continuing to just carry that team down. Their entire franchise. What a genius David Beckham is. Let's go ahead and invest in this

[Darius Butler]

entire thing and struggling a little bit in our. In our new stadium. But he made an appearance at the mic.

[AJ Hawk]

Why can't we speak after a big loss? That's all I heard about.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, Messi's dodging accountability.

[Darius Butler]

No, no.

[Connor Rogers]

With the loss per se.

[AJ Hawk]

They sent the youngsters out there for him.

[Toxic Tone]

They said they do the same thing every game. Messi never talks. Why doesn't he talk?

[M]

He doesn't have to.

[Toxic Tone]

He can't be held accountable.

[Connor Rogers]

He doesn't like talking. He just likes kicking.

[Toxic Tone]

The CR7 don't exist anymore in the Saudi league yesterday. Watched some highlights.

[Pat McAfee]

Dude, nobody watches that Saudi.

[Connor Rogers]

Exactly.

[Toxic Tone]

Nobody watches either league. Does it matter? Actually sold out every Miami game was 76, 000 at the last game.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, the stadium looks awesome. Have you seen it? It's all pink.

[Toxic Tone]

No, I haven't seen it. Pat,

[Pat McAfee]

I think he just.

[Connor Rogers]

I'm just kidding.

[Toxic Tone]

Was it one of the nights I was at the bar? It was on.

[Pat McAfee]

On the tv. So. The stadium looks sick. That's a first time that I've seen. I guess Columbus built a stadium and everything and I assume there's a big highlight of that. We know the Pittsburgh River Hounds of course have an incredible stadium down there by the river that's obviously filled up. But that Miami one looked big. You said 76,000 people were in a MLS, strictly MLS stadium.

[Toxic Tone]

No, that was in an away game. This one's not that big. They played at a massive stadium. I forget who it was again. It was a few weeks ago. Maybe Dallas. There's 76,000.

[Pat McAfee]

I got a bad feeling. I thought they were doing 76, 000 at night down there.

[Darius Butler]

Nice.

[Connor Rogers]

That'd be cool.

[Darius Butler]

It's too much. Way too much.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, that's true. That's dreamland. They might get there.

[Pat McAfee]

How was the F1 down there in Miami? I heard it was a dream come true.

[Darius Butler]

Phenomenal. Messi made his presence fell. He showed up in a few different garages. But the most probably pictures or content you saw was from the Mercedes garage because young Kimmy Antonelli has won his third race in a row.

[Toxic Tone]

19 year old and their name is Soundtrack.

[Connor Rogers]

Yep.

[Darius Butler]

Young Italian man. Mercedes won all four races here. He won the last three. First driver, first driver ever to convert his first three polls into three victories.

[Pat McAfee]

So it sounds like it's pretty easy a 19 year old just coming in there and just winning this thing. What's his name? What's the paisan's name?

[Darius Butler]

I mean sometimes you have a Wimby or a LeBron or Luca come along and just dominate early. He dominated on every level. They sped him up, put him up in the top car and last year was his rookie year and this season he's been dominated. Got a great car as well, Will.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, well, great car obviously helps. 19 year old winning's good for the future. But we want to talk about what's happening now. I saw you posting about it.

[Darius Butler]

What's that?

[Pat McAfee]

Max Van Verstappen. Is. Is he no longer a crown getter for you? This guy's a loser now. Max Van Verstappen is a loser.

[Toxic Tone]

He doesn't like the car this year, Max.

[Darius Butler]

He doesn't like the car.

[Pat McAfee]

He doesn't last year either.

[Darius Butler]

But I mean Max. Max is kind of always a potter. He's always potter.

[Connor Rogers]

That's why you like him, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Max Ven versus St.

[AJ Hawk]

Pals or something.

[Darius Butler]

You like that? He dominates and they expected some shitty conditions. He was starting at P2. So I'm like all right it's going to be rain. It's going to be some figured out. Yep.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. Place two is what they talk.

[AJ Hawk]

So he finished. Did he finish in second then I want to say.

[Darius Butler]

No, he finished. I want to say maybe six or seven.

[Pat McAfee]

This guy sucks.

[Darius Butler]

He went on a very risky strategy. Didn't work out.

[Connor Rogers]

Vander sloppy.

[AJ Hawk]

Did not. What would that be?

[Pat McAfee]

But Vander sloppy. Van ver sliding down the shoots and ladders quickly it sounds like. So this guy goes backwards instead of forwards and races now maybe we don't bet on him, huh? How about it? Maybe we just. Maybe we quit on a leak.

[Darius Butler]

Where's the go now?

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe quit on Lewis.

[Connor Rogers]

Where's sir Lewis?

[Pat McAfee]

He's getting married.

[Toxic Tone]

Allegedly caught up.

[Connor Rogers]

When's he going to put his boots back on and get behind the wheel?

[Darius Butler]

Still driving for Ferrari. They're, they're, you know they're up there. Mercedes dominate right now. Ferrari.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. How's our guys doing?

[Darius Butler]

It's Cadillac's first year. Look. So okay, they're struggling. You see them down there right above.

[Toxic Tone]

They've been around for a long time.

[Connor Rogers]

They both got zero.

[Pat McAfee]

How? How?

[Darius Butler]

It's tough to get points.

[Pat McAfee]

The top has 180.

[Darius Butler]

You can't just walk in and get points. It's the pinnacle. The same.

[Pat McAfee]

Cadillac has zero. So how many opportunities have they had to get points?

[Darius Butler]

Four races. You gotta get up in the top. Top 10 to get a point.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, we're ass.

[Connor Rogers]

So they're both just.

[Toxic Tone]

Well their facility. Their facility is not even done yet. I don't expect how, I don't know how they're supposed to win. Their facility. Don't have a facility.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, let's not mock anything that's happening with Cadillac. We assume they will go from Cadillac back to Cadillac at some point.

[Toxic Tone]

Bingo.

[Pat McAfee]

Because that is what Cadillac especially American made cars in teams.

[Darius Butler]

How long is the Dodge deal? Dodge Ram.

[Pat McAfee]

With who? With us? I don't even know.

[Connor Rogers]

It's still going.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll tell you what. Cadillac not too shabby.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

First purchase was Cadillac Escalade the day I was drafted. I did not know that the money was not going to come for a few months. Almost got that thing repoed. But I'll tell you what, we were rolling, weren't we Nick? That first day with Cadillac Escalade playing I'm so paid by Akon Never Forget it. Those were the good old days. Those were the good old days. Just flying around, living, living, living. Absolutely. Cadillac. The good old days. Yeah, I. I think that that is certainly the case. But also, if I need to run something over or pull something.

[Toxic Tone]

Yep. Now we're talking.

[Pat McAfee]

Especially out here in Indiana with some of these roads. I'm driving my Ram truck. 2500 heavy duty.

[Darius Butler]

Hell, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You ever heard that thing, the Rebel? Yeah.

[Toxic Tone]

Rebel Ram.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You're talking about whenever you hit that gas pedal, all you hear is the diesel. That's right. No, yeah. Yeah, it is.

[Connor Rogers]

He can go ball.

[Adam Schefter]

Sure.

[AJ Hawk]

You sure?

[Pat McAfee]

Huh?

[AJ Hawk]

You sure?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, man, I'm pretty certain about it. I mean, that's just kind of.

[Connor Rogers]

It turns on with bolt.

[AJ Hawk]

Don't look at the screen.

[Pat McAfee]

That is kind of what I do. Okay.

[AJ Hawk]

You pulling things a lot with that? You said it could pull things.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, so many things and push. I hook them right up to the. I got ball. Two balls hanging from the tail.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, you do.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

No, I don't know what your truck's talking about. I know what mine's talking about. Okay. Let's talk about some things happening around the NFL. Malik Willis, the new face of the Miami Dolphins, was invited to go throw the opening pitch. You know, a little ceremony. Welcome to the city. Let us show you some support. He walked right out there on a mound, and I'll tell you what, if this is how his Dolphins career is going to go, the only thing they're going to be celebrating is that 1972 Dolphins team for the rest of my lives, if you know what I'm saying. Certainly a fascinating throw. I appreciate the fact that he wore a glove out there onto the mound. I assume he warmed up and lathered up. We know that stadium is electrifying, so maybe he was just a little bit juiced up to put on a show. A.J. your first immediate thoughts whenever you see Malik, kind of air mail one to start his Miami career.

[AJ Hawk]

I'm actually very happy to see this. I think the number one thing is you just don't want to bounce it in. And sometimes it's hard if you're not used to pitching off a mound. You fall down like that and it brings your arm down and boom, that thing bounces to the plate.

[Darius Butler]

So.

[AJ Hawk]

Absolutely. I think he was aiming to try to hit the backstop behind the catcher.

[Toxic Tone]

Smart.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I think there is a chance he was trying to put on a little bit of a show, showcase how strong his arm is. D. But I know you saw this as a member of the doll fam. The Fins up community. What. What was your first thoughts whenever you saw this? Miami Dolphins quarterback not be able to complete a. A throw and catch.

[Darius Butler]

If I would have saw this a couple months ago before we start thunderballing in here. And I realized how hard it is to find the strike zone. Maybe, maybe had a different feeling. But I saw this and I saw you throw it in the chat and tried to mock my quarterback. So obviously I went and did some research, scoured the Internet and said hey, great quarterbacks, shitty first pitch. And a lot came up, including the baby goat, Patrick Mahomes.

[Pat McAfee]

What?

[Darius Butler]

I saw him struggle as well. And this guy played baseball. He was on the USA Juniors, I believe he got. Got drafted if I'm not mistaken, to play baseball. His pops was obviously a big league pitchers for a long time. So Patrick Mahomes is doing this and run off rattling a couple Super Bowls. I think Mal Willis would be just fine.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so you're saying ipso facto if Pavlov's dogs throw it over, catcher become baby goat.

[Darius Butler]

Yep. Over too. It's important that it's over high like like AJ says, not bouncing. He's aggressive.

[Connor Rogers]

Senior behind the plate though.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. What was Patrick Mahomes Senior, obviously Patrick Mahomes the second Junior.

[Darius Butler]

Yep.

[Connor Rogers]

I think he is Junior. I thought he was. I think he is.

[Pat McAfee]

I think on the brain.

[Darius Butler]

It's got the. It's got the second up here on his.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. The second Patrick Mahomes the second who would obviously then request the Internet to find another first pitch that he has done in the past where he threw an absolute inside strike. Nibbling on the edge a little bit there. You know, Patrick Mahomes. We're going to have some success. I appreciate the fact that he. We put a. We had a. Brett Feach was on last week and I said, feels like the first time Patrick Mahomes is kind of overlooked. Right? Kind of feel like that. Yeah, it really does.

[AJ Hawk]

Talked about it all. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody really thinks much of the Chiefs. The big conversation about the Chiefs is that Travis Kelce is coming back. It's not like hey, Chiefs are going to win a Super Bowl.

[Toxic Tone]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody's like saying Chiefs are Super bowl bound right now. A lot of people are saying the AFC is actually, actually brand new, let alone the AFC west, which has a lot of big time names out there. And for me it's just like Patrick Mahomes getting a chance to build another chip on his shoulder after he's already been a made man. Already put together a Hall of Fame career. And if we know anything from listening to Tom Brady speak whenever he retired, Drew Brees speak whenever he retired, Peyton Manning whenever he wrapped up. It's like they are collecting everything.

[Connor Rogers]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Whenever they are trying to find their motivation to continue to go and it feels like, like the absence of anything being said about Patrick Mahomes could certainly be a motivator for a man who's healing way ahead of schedule. They're saying. A.J. hawk.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I think this is great. And Andy Reid has to love this where they are in the off season, especially heading into camp because whenever you're riding high and things are going great, coaches, that's when they are the most nervous. Like, hey, I got to de recruit these guys.

[Adam Schefter]

I gotta.

[AJ Hawk]

I gotta get on these guys every single day and make sure that they are staying with it and they're staying locked in. I think now, like a lot of the work is done for you because of all the.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Your season didn't go very well. But it's. It's amazing how quickly people I guess, forget their greatness. So I think, yeah, I'm looking for big things from. From Pat Mahomes and this whole team.

[Pat McAfee]

To be clear, whenever they were winning and they were playing good during their dynasty run, they would win in ass fashions.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

It wouldn't be like a massive blowout. They. They were notorious non coverers. They lost me so much money. Just the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. I would just get into a microphone. Are the Chiefs still in Kansas? Yeah. Do the Chiefs still have Andy Reid? Yeah. Do they still have. Yeah. Then the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. I would take them every single week and they would lose me money every single week because they never covered. But the covering and the spread was always on what we thought of the Chiefs, which was a team that would always win, which they would. They would inevitably win. There'd be some third down in the fourth quarter where Patrick Mahomes would hit Travis Kelce. There'd be some morale, miraculous play that would take place. They were must watch. Mahomes in of himself is must watch. But they would very rarely like blow people out. So that obviously led to people especially if you're winning all the time saying all the football gods are blessing these guys. They're just getting lucky. They're actually not that good. And then once they do have a season where they are ass and he gets hurt, everybody comes out and said the signs were there. The signs were there that they were never really that good. And that's not what the Chiefs get a chance to kind of work off of.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, I think a lot of it is a lot of the. You're not hearing Chiefs talk. I don't hear any anti Patrick Mahomes talk though. Like, it's always the O line stinks. He's been their leading rusher, whatever. The past few years they haven't been able to run the ball at all. The weapons when Rasheed Rice is. Is not in there are not great. Travis is getting old, blah, blah, blah. So it's not like I don't think it's an anti Patrick thing. It's just a anti. Like, hey, he, he just hasn't been the Superman the last couple years that he has been the years before or being able to carry a team that may have flaws.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, let's go from Patrick Mahomes and Kansas City Chiefs not getting talked about enough to something else that got talked about a lot and it should. You see Peyton Manning, shotgun and beers up there with Josh. Do you see Joey Aguiar up there chugging our shotgun and some beers with Luke Combs Now, Luke Homes, notorious great shotgunner of beer.

[Toxic Tone]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

He. He inhales that thing, puts it down. I mean, he sucks that beer out of the bottom of that hole. Now, shotgun is obviously a science experiment to get a beer out of a can quarter quicker. Yeah, you got, you got an integral, you got an outlet hole, you got some gravity working with you and also air pressure kind of working for you. So that beer can, shotgun literally out of that can into your gullet. Luke Combs, notoriously good shotgun taker of beer, has actually done it so often and so well that some people say this guy's got to have gimmicked cans. He's got to have no beer inside of there. That actually leads to him throwing cans at people saying, hey, why don't you go ahead and come on and dance if you want to. Peyton Manning loves a nice cold beer. We know that.

[Toxic Tone]

Yes, he does.

[Pat McAfee]

He loves a nice cold beer. He went ahead and chugged one hypo. We assume he can delete some beers. Yeah, we watch him in front of a hundred thousand plus with Luke Homes do just as such. Aguiar's up there doing his thing. It's like, I love what these musicians are doing with these college tours because a lot of these college stadiums, I assume aren't necessarily built for a world class show taking over the entire place. Now granted, Neyland Stadium here is outrageously nice. It is beautiful. It is upgraded. It's 114, I think 113,000. I forget 108. Whatever it is, thousand people. But I like this happening in a showcase of the college sports communities coming together. We obviously have seen them over the past couple weeks. We hope that will continue. Zach Bryant did Michigan. 114,000 people or something like that. It's unbelievable what's going on. And I like the boys chucking beers and having a good time out there. A.J.

[AJ Hawk]

yeah, it's great. But I mean, can we get someone to walk out with Morgan Wallen in Vegas? What's going on, man? He's so upset. Who are the five people that bailed on this guy?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. And why would you, you know, I, I, it, it had to be a scheduling thing, but.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. Or a magician trick went wrong.

[Pat McAfee]

I was lucky. I was potentially. And maybe somebody was there, was just invisible.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe he didn't even know.

[AJ Hawk]

Right.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe somebody got bored there. You got some flaky ass people in this town. I do love that. I like that he called it out too. Anytime that takes place, Vegas, I'd like to let Morgan though, though. Hey, the solo dolo walkout, I think hit pretty good too.

[Connor Rogers]

Also plays.

[Pat McAfee]

I was very lucky to be a part of one of the first ones alongside Tyrese Halliburton. That's a good time, man. I mean, that is good. Watching him kind of go through his process before the concert. Like Coach Saban did it down there in Tuscaloosa with Morgan just a few weeks back. I'll be excited to get Coach Saban's thoughts on Morgan's pre show kind of routine because there is exercise workout group, like there is like, I believe, a routine because he's sprinting that stadium basically throughout his show as he continues to go there. So, yeah, it's cool, man. It's an incredible thing. He's in Indianapolis this weekend.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, really?

[Pat McAfee]

Can't wait to see who comes out. What's that?

[AJ Hawk]

Lucas Oil?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's in Luke's oil. Sold out a couple things. Guy sells out everywhere.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Luke combs selling out 100,000.

[Toxic Tone]

Tickets are not cheap.

[AJ Hawk]

There it is.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, this is the early days of this thing, I think. I'm not 100, sure how many there were. That was. Dude, he's. Hey, anyone ever tripped? I don't think anybody's ever tripped, but there's been somebody that's got hit with something, right? Didn't something happen?

[Toxic Tone]

I don't know.

[Pat McAfee]

It's an incredible, you know, it's classic wrestling, but also it's A great way to fill time. He also. Him and Theo Vaughn, I think, for his most recent tour, or put together an entire sketch basically about turning on the stage. I think it's really smart because how do you keep people so entertained that are in the top rows whenever you're just by yourself? You know, this is like a professional wrestling question. Like, how do you entertain everybody in the top whenever you're a ring down here in the middle. So the entire spectacle is a rather big piece of the puzzle and also like kind of moving around. The way these musicians have been able to captivate stadiums, very, very fascinating because the, the, the sophistication of their shows, I believe, if you were to look at them over the last 10 years, has really evolved, you know, with everything they're trying to do. I mean, we went to Taylor Swift down at Lucas Oil Stadium. That entire thing was insane. You were a part of the show, you know, like, how do you kind of make the show? Oh, you got to be like a part of it.

[AJ Hawk]

Immersive, right? It's like an immersive situation. Like almost like the sphere, but not the sphere exactly.

[Pat McAfee]

Like, you kind of have to treat it that way, especially with how big these stadiums are. It's like, I think they've done a great job.

[Toxic Tone]

The Luke one, he did a great job because it's. It's right in the middle of the football field and it's a circle stage and the stage spins the entire time so the entire crowd gets to see him the whole time. It's not like you're in one end zone. So everyone in this end zone is super far away. Being in the middle, like, it was like there wasn't like a bad seat in the house type thing.

[Pat McAfee]

Who was it Dane Cook that started the circle stage? First one, I remember comedians in the arenas or whatever because he was so big, it was like that into what it is now with Chappelle and Shane and like everybody does it and how they operated. It is. It's a wonderful thing watching people kind of do their job. And Morgan fills the place up.

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, he fills it and he could play for four hours. Lot of songs. Just one album. How long is the album? Oh, 10 hours. How many songs you have? 30 number ones. On this one song, it's like on this one album it's like, this guy's outrageous. This weekend should be a great time. Tonight. Second round that A playoffs continues to brew. Sixers at Knicks, 8 o' clock on Peacock and NBC. Timberwolves Spurs 9:30 on NBC and Peacock. I'm excited to see how the boys do out here. I'm excited to see who shows up. I'm excited to see Wemby continue to, you know, try to dominate a league in which he's supposed to be the next chosen one. Is his time now or is he still a year or two out? We shall see if he can get past the second round.

[Toxic Tone]

It'll be interesting to see because in the first round we talked about about it before the first round started because we talked about the regular season and how it was kind of lopsided and we said it. Well, normally the playoffs is great, but the first round sometimes not so great. That was not the case. Dogs were 24 and 30 straight up. So yes, favorites won the first round of the playoffs, but Dogs being that close, they were plus 18 units if you just took the Dogs in every single game. So we'll see if that continues. Yes, the spurs are huge, huge favorites. That's probably because of the injuries, but Sean said ants trying to go tonight. So we'll see what happens in that situation. The it has gone from 13 and a half to 11 and a half with the speculation that Ant may play tonight. So we'll see there. And then the Sixers being that big of a dog is is kind of interesting after they just knocked out the best team in the East. Them being seven and a half point favorites or Dogs to the Knicks is an interesting one to watch tonight as well.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you like that line, Con Man?

[Connor Rogers]

I like all the underdog lines. I hate especially right now that they even have 13 and a half up for the Spurs. If Van man is going to play for the T Wolves, this is. This timing is what really grinds my gears. Okay, normally I get it.

[AJ Hawk]

Okay.

[Connor Rogers]

You start one at 7, you start the other at 9:30. There's no overlap. If we're getting overlap like we are here, I want to watch Wemby.

[Pat McAfee]

I want to watch every overlap.

[Connor Rogers]

There's a huge overlap here. It's 8 o'.

[AJ Hawk]

Clock.

[Connor Rogers]

37 like it should be 7 and 9:30 if we're going on.

[Pat McAfee]

Are we right? Is the graphic right?

[Connor Rogers]

I am 90% sure, yes. Peacock.

[AJ Hawk]

One's big. NBC or what?

[Connor Rogers]

No, they're both Peacock. It's weird because YouTube TV has some of the games that are NBC. It doesn't make any sense. But they shouldn't have this. And if they do have it, then just run them at the same time. Like how many times is one of the playoff games, especially in basketball, a 20 point blowout. And then the other one ends up being a real tight game down to the last couple minutes. You know how the last couple minutes are. It ends up being in a 10 point game either way. But Wemby is so fun to watch. To put him at 9:30 is just a disservice to the east coast of the United States of America. And I am sick of it because I do want to watch the whole thing. I mean, it happened last night with Wild Avalanche. That game starts. That game starts at 9. It's over before midnight. That's perfect. That is like we can, we can handle that. Would still like it to start at 8:30, but can deal with it being at 9. That 9:30. You would think a half hour makes no difference. It makes.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, the second half, it's over.

[Connor Rogers]

Makes a difference.

[Pat McAfee]

Halftime comes. That's a lot of downtime.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. And by then it's 11:15.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll tell you, I start doing one of these, laying on the bed and all of a sudden I wake up, it's the end of the third. Yeah. Where are we at?

[Darius Butler]

It's the playoff.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, it's the end of the fourth. Oh my God. This really matters right now. I miss so much. Oh, what time is it? 12:30. What the. Why is this? Yeah, that's how it is.

[Connor Rogers]

And they have no reason to put that game at night. Like, sure, I get it. Central time, whatever the hell you want. Argument you want to make with time. It's an illusion either way. They just need to have the timings of the games make some sense for everybody.

[Pat McAfee]

Time is an illusion, aj. Let's expand upon that, shall we? Let's explore that space. What do you think that means?

[AJ Hawk]

I would love to know what, what does anything mean actually, Pat?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, no. Now we're getting even deeper in here.

[Darius Butler]

That's a fair statement. Because I'll tell you what, since COVID I feel like my concept of time is completely changed.

[Toxic Tone]

What do you mean true?

[Darius Butler]

I don't know, like three months. It just feels completely different than it did in say, 2018.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so my daughter is 10, 95 days old. Okay. That is such an interesting timeline that has taken place. You're saying post Covid, it has really changed how you view everything.

[Darius Butler]

Oh yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

When was the draft? Two years ago.

[Darius Butler]

That's what I'm saying. Especially with the, the run. The run that we kind of been on like.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, exactly.

[Darius Butler]

It was mania.

[Pat McAfee]

A year ago. 50 Cent. Tony. Yo, he wished me a happy birthday. Tony.

[Toxic Tone]

Tony, good guy.

[Pat McAfee]

I was so pumped up about that. I was like, I need young me to find out about this. The idea that time is an illusion stems from modern physics, particularly Einstein's relativity, which suggests the Universe is a 4D block where past, present and future exist simultaneously.

[Toxic Tone]

Shut up.

[Pat McAfee]

Time doesn't flow fundamentally. Rather, our consciousness creates the perception of a linear progression, while physics shows events simply correlate, making the now subjective.

[Adam Schefter]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

Wow. I wish Einstein was here so I could say, what, dude, now is right now. We're all here, bro.

[Toxic Tone]

He actually didn't die that long ago. I was con it. I was really shocked when I watched that movie Oppenheimer. Oppenheimer. It really shocked me that Einstein time was still involved.

[Connor Rogers]

Can we just put The spurs at 8:30? Thought he was.

[Darius Butler]

That's all sun.

[Pat McAfee]

See, that's what we got to talk. Rest in peace.

[Toxic Tone]

Like a Galileo guy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Black and white photos only of Albert Einstein. Those could have certainly been portraits. You could have got me him popping up in Oppenheimer by the water there. What's he doing here? That looks like Einstein, dad, watching that movie. That surely looks like Einstein right there, doesn't it?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it was.

[Connor Rogers]

Did he time travel here?

[Pat McAfee]

Did everybody look like Einstein back then? Why is this?

[Connor Rogers]

Why are they calling him Albert?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's actually Einstein. It's crazy. Holy.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, Mr. Steve.

[Pat McAfee]

And he was really disappointed in Oppenheimer Einstein.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You don't think they offered me this type of thing?

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Geez, Einstein. I didn't know.

[Connor Rogers]

I think he was scared for him.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And he knew that E definitely equal to MC Squad.

[Toxic Tone]

That was a big part of it.

[Pat McAfee]

Certainly was. Think about the big brains of the past.

[Darius Butler]

Oh my God.

[AJ Hawk]

Were they viewed like that back then when they were alive though?

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

That's what I wonder. Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I assume it's not as though, like

[AJ Hawk]

now you just hear Einstein, you think like, oh, super genius. Was everybody thinking that back then?

[Connor Rogers]

A lot of it was secret too, right? Like, a lot of the things were classified.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, does well for the bomb. Does only his banger survive though? Like everything else, you know, like as we look back on musicians, we only remember their heat. We don't remember the drops that were absolutely, absolutely terrible. Like, do we only know Einstein for his hits? And did he have a bunch of misses in real time?

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah. He originally thought E was just MC Idiot.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And then he had to come out and everybody's like, I hate this guy. Yeah, I hate this. I'm sick of this math guy. I'm sorry. I'm sick and tired of it. Or do you think he was loved the entire time?

[Connor Rogers]

I feel like math. Like with the musician comparison. Musicians release a bunch. I feel like math. Especially math guys like Einstein, like, I think his whole life was damn near three things.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you think E equals MC squared took up a lot of time. I think he kind of disappeared into the world of math. And then he came back with, I have a new one. You think that's how it works?

[Connor Rogers]

And it takes like five years. So like it's five years of doing one and then it's probably a year of like, I need to.

[Pat McAfee]

Did he send smoke up like a pope? You know, like, hey, Einstein's got another one.

[Darius Butler]

Maybe it's more like Adele. You're speaking of musicians.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, you're right. Bangers.

[Darius Butler]

Only a few years and just boom.

[Pat McAfee]

And maybe smoke too, because I think she actually did somehow.

[Toxic Tone]

She loves ripping a good doll.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Einstein did the big 10 minute naps. He never slept for like hours at a time. He did the nap thing.

[Pat McAfee]

I got algoed into listening to a sleep expert. Okay, are you a whoop band? How do you know what's good for everybody? I guess in this entire thing he said what he tells people who don't have a lot of time. Chug a coffee, take a 25 minute nap, wake up, you're back to life.

[Darius Butler]

Seen that guy right after the coffee.

[Connor Rogers]

Coffee.

[Pat McAfee]

You chug the coffee, turn yourself nice and warm.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Put you to sleep. Nice and warm.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, he said I sit down.

[Toxic Tone]

Actually, Nick Rose been doing this for a decade.

[Pat McAfee]

But how do you just turn the lights off on yourself? I almost want to comment underneath, like, okay, chug the coffee. And then do I just tell myself to go to sleep right now?

[Toxic Tone]

Like, that's always been my argument. We would be out day drinking and Nick would come, we'd take a break and he'd chug a coffee and say like, all right, I'm gonna take a 25 minute nap. I'm like, how does that happen?

[Pat McAfee]

So it's actually called a napa chino. It acts as a high efficiency power up where caffeine kicks in just as you wake from a 20 minute nap, reducing grogginess and maximizing alertness. I'll tell you what, I'll take two nappuccinos tomorrow and I'll take a couple of napachinos the next day. Do you know somebody who maybe took a napachino or two in the process of building a Goliath in the sports and entertainment world? A man who had a vision for a Gimmick baseball team team. When I assume a lot of people were not believers. Yeah, just had thoughts of something that could become a 100, 203,000 ticket seller down in Texas on a regular basis. Ladies and gentlemen, the founder of the Savannah Bananas who just had a massive weekend at Texas A&M. 100 some thousand tickets on gimmick baseball.

[Connor Rogers]

Unbelievable.

[Pat McAfee]

It is truly preposterous.

[Toxic Tone]

Yes it is.

[Pat McAfee]

What has been accomplished, ladies and gentlemen? Yellow talks. Jesse. Jesse Cole.

[Jesse Cole]

What's up guys?

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so can you please tell me how you go from if the story is right? I tried to google as much information as I possibly could. So I'm kind of being held hostage by whatever they decide to show me about, about your story. But I did read in debt over a million bucks. 1.7 million. You sell your house, you and your wife sleeping on a mattress on the floor basically with your visions of what this could all be. How many years ago was that? And do you have the visions at that point of selling out Texas A&M 100,000,000,000 tickets for a gimmick baseball? Like how big did your dream and believe in where you're at now? How can you describe it?

[Jesse Cole]

Well, at first our goal was just to make baseball fun. We were a college summer baseball team when we started, so. And we sold, you know, two tickets in our first three months. So that's when we had to sell our house, empty out our savings account, sleeping on an air bed. But yeah, we believe we can make the game fun, more entertainment, more excitement and make the game faster. And so yeah, we, I mean when we started the Bananas, we had a male cheerleading team, the Man Annas, the dad Bod cheerleading squad, the Banana Nana senior citizen dance team. But more than anything, the players were all in on celebrating dancing and having fun. And after a few years, you know, we were selling out games, but fans were still leaving games early. And that's when we said we have to change the rules and create a new game. And back in 2020, we played our first ever banana ball game. You know, with a two hour time limit. You win the inning, you get a point. No bunting because bunting sucks. If you bunch, you're thrown out of the game. Fans catching foul balls for an out. We've added all these new rules and just took it on the road with a bigger dream then, but went from one city world tour to now playing in front of 3.4 million fans this year and 102,000 on Saturday.

[Pat McAfee]

Geez, congratulations on it all. Obviously having the fortitude to continue to go forward whenever everything is seemingly against you and to believe in yourself is obviously a great story for future generations to listen to and experience. So you're a content driven company. Would you describe yourself? How do you describe, Are you a live event company? Are you a content driven company? And who do you find are most interested? Because I think you and the dude. Perfect crossover. Seems like a perfect demo match and also a massive home run not only in Texas A and M, but probably anywhere you go. Right? That's very similar markets.

[Jesse Cole]

Yeah, we're a live entertainment company. We obsess over the fan experience. So fans start showing up at 2 o' clock for a 7 o' clock game. There were 40,000 people in the plaza four hours before the game. So we do a show from 2 o'.

[Pat McAfee]

Clock.

[Jesse Cole]

The fans are out there meeting fans at 2 o'. Clock, live show in front, live show afterwards. We stay signed to the last fan. We are obsessed. But yeah, it's really the sport of banana ball. You know, people have compared us to the Globe Trotters, but the sport of banana ball is what we're most proud of. There are six teams competing to go to the Banana Bowl Championship and it's unbelievably competitive. I mean, we had 23 trick plays on Saturday night, six home runs. They're trying to compete and win every show. But we're also trying to put on, you know, a lot of entertainment non stop.

[Pat McAfee]

The Texas tailgaters ran into it with Reese, who's the football stadium home run king, I'll have you know. I think, I don't know if you saw the other day, I caught one of your guys games on ESPN too. Congratulations on getting your shit licensed on ESPN for even and bigger appeal. Not just digitally, but also linear reach. I mean, you're doing fantastic. We will follow along and watch your next business move as you continue to go all in in this particular sphere, by the way. So I appreciate you doing what you're doing there. But football stadiums, how do you pick and choose where you're headed? Because Texas A and M, Kyle Field, obviously historic, legendary place for college ball fills up for you. Do you feel like you fill up anywhere or like what are the best places for Savannah because you came here, Indianapolis filled up immediately. I think you sold out three times if you needed to. Are you everywhere right now or how do you kind of view where you're selling these places?

[Jesse Cole]

Yeah, we're in 45 states, 75 stadiums, every single team has sold out. We have 4.2 million people on the wait list. And yeah, with football stadiums, you know, we, we started with Clemson last year, the first college in Stadium, sold 81,000 tickets. In the environment with Dabo Sweeney and CG AJ Spiller coming back and just the atmosphere was electric. Like we got to do these college football stadiums. And then, you know, also with the NFL, we did the Superdome and Drew Brees came in and just there's these great moments that we can create in a competitive environment. So yeah, we've heard from numerous stadiums, over a hundred thousand. We still got, we got Neyland Stadium, University at Tennessee. In three weeks there's gonna be 101,000 that's completely sold out. Boise State for the party animals, Headliner and the blue field, that's gonna be a lot of fun. University of Oregon. So just you mix these worlds. College football is known for the atmosphere. Pat, you know this better than anyone. But now you put in our show with non stop music and performances, plus trick plays, backflip catches. It's a great marriage and we're having fun at these college football stadiums.

[Pat McAfee]

It's a beautiful thing. Obviously, if people are getting introduced to sports in this manner, we love it. If they're just enjoying sports in this manner, we love it. I appreciate the fact that you went out there and did it. Now in your business story, there's probably a climax moment or two going, go ahead, debug.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah, Jess, you're talking about filling stadiums, you know, 100,000 plus. Now when was the moment? If you can go back a little bit, when you really knew, like, okay, we, we've arrived. When was that moment? What was the venue? Kind of, what was the year?

[Jesse Cole]

Well, if you knew, knew me and our organization, we've never arrived. You know, we're just getting started and that's the mindset. And I believe that we're going to take this all over the world. People think it's just a circus, just a show. These guys can play and do things that people have never done before on a baseball field. So I still haven't felt that. But for me, growing up south of Boston, always a dream to play at Fenway park, play professionally. We went to Fenway park and sold that out and watched the whole stadium turn yellow. That was pretty special. But now, you know, every night, as big as this game was, guys, we did a pop up game on Thursday in front of only a thousand fans and we didn't tell anybody. We went to a high school and surprised fans and created moments that people never seen. Like I Love creating those fans first moments that people have never experienced. That's where this all comes into play. Where can we play that next? You never know.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm excited to be on a beach. I'm excited. I'm excited for your promotional brain to continue to do absurd things. I just want to let you know that I am excited to see what you come up with, brother. There's a few of them in the history, big time promoters, obviously you are a promoter. That is what you are. With baseball being kind of your venue and how you do this, you're. You're hitting on all cylinders, man. We got stilts guy, home run.

[Connor Rogers]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

Daisy Duke, pitcher with cowboy boots, obviously. Awesome. Awesome. The ninja umpire, the dancing, all this. And I don't know, I don't know what your brainstorming room is like. I don't know when or how you come about getting your ideas or whatever, but that in of itself is probably its own show that I would like to watch, brother. I'd like to see your process and coming up with all this shit and then how you think it's going to go over versus how it actually goes over and adjusting on the fly and all of it. I, I really respect what you got going on.

[Jesse Cole]

Thank you. My question for you is, I mean, again, we're always trying to do things that have never happened before in sports.

[Foxy]

Sports.

[Jesse Cole]

Where do you think we should play? Where would be somewhere crazy or something wild or something we should do that would shock people.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a good one.

[Darius Butler]

It's a good one.

[Pat McAfee]

The moon.

[Jesse Cole]

The moon, yes. That's what we've talked about for a few years. That's going to take a few years. Whatever.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[Connor Rogers]

So, I mean, Times Square would be cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Times Square would be sick. You can run it out. We learned that they don't care about

[Toxic Tone]

dimensions, which is cool. Like obviously these football fields, dimensions are.

[Pat McAfee]

Lucas Oil Stadium would show up for you. That'd be wild if you did. Look.

[Jesse Cole]

Central Park, New York City, Houston.

[Pat McAfee]

That would be sweet.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

So we're thinking of large patches of grass.

[Toxic Tone]

I just saw Shakira did 2 million on a beach. So you mentioned the beach. That'd be the beach.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, it'd be tough for the Banana Boys, though, to run on the sand. Yeah. You know, especially the boot scooter. You know, he's going to be in a little bit of trouble out there.

[Jesse Cole]

We'd send the Coconuts. That's our, that's our newest team, the Coconuts. They'd be all over the beach.

[Pat McAfee]

How many teams you got total six.

[Jesse Cole]

We got six teams. Yeah. In the league, Banana Ball Championship League.

[Connor Rogers]

Go Clowns.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. The Indianapolis Clowns obviously coming in a big way. How do you feel about the cosmic baseball that's happening as well?

[Jesse Cole]

Hey, anything that can make the game fun, man, we're supportive of it. I mean, we're just trying to bring more people out and you know, they're doing a great job and I think we all win. And it's an abundance mindset. And the more people that are bringing out kids and families to have fun, that's a win, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Love it. As baseball continues to go and your league continues to produce great baseball, it only works if there's good baseball players. Go ahead, Tom.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, Jesse, you talked about how good the players actually are. One of the cool stories earlier in the season, Tristan Peters. Peters used to play for the Savannah Bananas, is now playing on the White Sox. I believe he's hitting like.284 for the white Sox. So, like, I think a lot of people think that it's like not actually talented baseball players, but they, they are, right? They're some of the best baseball players in the world, correct?

[Pat McAfee]

Well, yeah.

[Jesse Cole]

Look at Jackie Bradley Jr. World Series champion, all star, full time player with the Clowns. He hit for the cycle the other night. We got guys, you know, first round picks, second round picks, they can play and now they're just learning how to do unbelievable trick plays and performances and putting it together. And that's why, why, man, it's so great. You know, we created this, a bunch of us, but I get to sit back and, and be a fan and watch things every night and just be like, I can't believe that just happened. And that's what's exciting about it. Nothing surprises. I mean, we get surprised every single night. And that's what's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

Live events, obviously. AJ has the last question for you here, Jesse.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, Jesse, I'm curious, like when you're acquiring new talent. I guess first off, what's the process like trying to find guys that are very talented baseball players, but also like entertainers and big personalities. And do you set expectations when they sign? Because I'm thinking like, hey, we have a pop up show on Thursday. I thought I'm just here playing Kyle Field. I don't want to, I don't want to go over here, play a game for a thousand people. How do you deal with those kind of things?

[Jesse Cole]

Well, we're fortunate. When you join us, you know what it's about? It's about fans. First, you Know, the reason we're here, the reason we get to play in front of record breaking crowds is because we put the fans first and we're the first ones signing autographs and meeting them and we're on all the time. But yeah, it was hard at first, guys. No one wanted to play for us. I mean, it was impossible. But now, you know, we have thousands of guys that. Thousands of players and that are reaching out and it's. It's amazing to see because they know they have to be fans first. They know we have to perform. But I mean, we're getting like Derek Klena, Broadway, one of the best Broadway performers ever. He played college ball at ucla back with Garrett Cole, Trevor Bauer, and so now he's bringing that world together. So when you can mix the worlds of entertainment and sports together, man, it's fun to watch.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm trying to start. I'm trying to start being accurate with throwing. Yeah, I'm trying to. Yeah.

[Jesse Cole]

We're ready for you in Indie, man. You put on a show.

[Pat McAfee]

I. Well, yeah, I would like the show to be one that doesn't look ass. You know, I've seen it. You know, we saw Tino.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. Tino Martinez. That was awesome.

[AJ Hawk]

Good.

[Pat McAfee]

Don't want that.

[Connor Rogers]

That was cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Saw Russell Wilson get gunned out after a guy goes in between the legs.

[Jesse Cole]

These guys are throwing 93 miles an hour. 94 miles an hour. It's not easy.

[Pat McAfee]

That's what I'm saying. I need to practice.

[Connor Rogers]

Breeze got screwed, too.

[Pat McAfee]

Back flip. Was that the back flip catch? Which one was the backflip catch? We don't need that.

[Jesse Cole]

Who did that? Yeah, yeah, they'll. They'll make you look bad with the trick play. That's pretty.

[Danny Green]

That's.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, they'll moss the out of everybody, you know, because you get a little people older than what maybe your demo is. Because I assume your demo is what it is. Right. We all see what it is, and then their parents and they love it. I think these people really enjoy their lives whenever they're watching Savannah Banana baseball and everything like that. So you got some people that are like, I hate it. It's corny or whatever. It's like, I'm baseball. This is bad for baseball. It's like, all right, go out there. You got a pitcher out there actually.

[M]

Oh, yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Throw.

[Pat McAfee]

They're actually cooking while also doing a full and then stepping on the mound and 100% 88 or whatever. It's like how that. These guys. Unbelievable at baseball. I didn't know there Was this much talent in the baseball world. I enjoy what you're doing. I appreciate what you're doing and keep trailblazing, brother. Can't wait to watch what you do next.

[Jesse Cole]

I appreciate you guys.

[Pat McAfee]

Ladies and gentlemen, that's Jesse Cole.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Jesse.

[Pat McAfee]

They're gonna do docs and classes about him.

[Toxic Tone]

Oh yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Oh yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Anybody that does the whole mattress gimmick, one point some million in debt belief, two tickets. He has that. We sold two tickets the first season we were there. It's like. Yeah, that's part of the whole story.

[Darius Butler]

Three months.

[Pat McAfee]

It's like seven bucks production.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. I want to see that dog. What's that, that, that documentary. Seven bucks as well. Well though, that's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. You know, seven bucks always storyline two tickets is another one. Fans first.

[Darius Butler]

Seven bucks.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, I only had seven dollars.

[AJ Hawk]

We saw the show.

[Connor Rogers]

Seven bucks in mana, baby.

[Pat McAfee]

That's right. We're gonna have a goat. Joining us here in a matter of moments. I believe there is some technical difficulties happening behind the scenes there.

[Toxic Tone]

That tends to happen.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. Joining us now is a olympic or medalist, an 18 time LPGA champion, a three time major winner, fresh off of back to backs. Ladies and gentlemen, Nelly Corda.

[Jesse Cole]

Yay.

[Pat McAfee]

How are you, Nelly?

[Nelly Korda]

Hi, how are you? Thanks for having me.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you for joining us. Anytime we get a chance to chit chat with goats of their sport, which you certainly are on the trajectory of being. And you can be humble and modest if you want to, but we will speak the truth for you. We are lucky and thankful to do so, especially coming off of back to backs. How we feeling? We're swinging well right now. Hey, we're hitting the ball well right now, Nellie. Is that what we're feeling?

[Nelly Korda]

My whoop says I'm in the red, so I'm feeling great today.

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, celebration.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, we got after it a little bit last.

[Nelly Korda]

I did just end in Mexico, so I may have had a shot of tequila and a margarita.

[M]

Maybe.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe a little Corona.

[Connor Rogers]

Why?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I read your answer. Where I believe it was reported that you were the only top 10 player that was in Mexico fresh off of a major, the Chevron championship, which was your third major win a week before and you said something about like the resort's beautiful, the food is amazing, the course wonderful. My fiance and I just came down here, lived our life. You win that tournament. Okay, so let's talk about you winning a major one week and then you enjoying life winning. Are you now? You're obviously a stone cold killer in this entire thing. But do you feel as if you're playing your best golf right now and what is it about your game that you can feel is really on whenever you're playing your best?

[Nelly Korda]

Honestly, I just feel like I'm living my best life. I think that correlates to maybe my on course play. You know, it's. It is funny, like going from a major to a tournament the next week, like Mexico, I think was the best, best transition because Monday I sat by the pool coconut, like it was. I was literally living my best life. But I had to like, remind myself on Tuesday. I'm like, I'm here to work. I need to get my butt into gear. But I think I'm just kind of like. I've said it many times. I'm like, I'm. I'm living my best life. Like I'm having so much fun on the golf course. But I think it came because last year was. Was a really hard year for me. I didn't win at all. I came off of a year that I won seven times. And I think I'm just maturing and like realizing that I need to really enjoy these moments that it's not going to last forever. So in a way that so many legends have told me to smell the roses. And this week I actually have time to smell the roses.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, well, congratulations on getting that point in your mind. I know that's a freeing feeling. I want. Would assume especially for the top of the top whenever it comes to competitive spirit. You talked about having a bad season following having a good season. You said living your life and enjoying it is a big piece of the recovery. I assume you're beating yourself down pretty good last year. And how do you kind of work your way out of that, actually, because we talked to Michaela Shiffrin, who had a bad Olympics bouncing back on the other side. Obviously every NFL guy has had a terrible season. Had to bounce back. For you. What was it like going through that journey? And is this the first time? Because all we've known of you is like being dominant. Is this like the first time that you really had to kind of journey through those waters of maybe doubt or change or anything like that?

[Nelly Korda]

Definitely not. I mean, every season has a different story. You know, I won my first major in 2021. I won the Olympics that year. And then I didn't really have. I didn't really back it up until 2024 again, so. So I always have. I think it's always just a roller coaster sports. I mean, they humble you in every Possible way. And for me, what's important. I feel like a lot of athletes, what I've seen is that they try to reinvent the wheel. Like, they try and do something different. They try to change everything just because it's not working. And I stayed with the same people on my team. I have the same caddy. I have the same physio. Like. Like, no matter what happened, like, the same people were riding it out with me. And that, like, gave me a sense of comfort that, okay, I can definitely get through this. Like, we're all in this together. And that no matter what, like, I've seen so many athletes bounce back and just. It doesn't mean that I can't do it. Like, I can do it as well. So I think I just was more of, like, trying to have a mindset change where it's like, I get into a situation that. That I'm like, okay, I'm screwed here. Where back to the past. I'd be like, oh, God, here we go again. Like, I'm in a divot. I left myself the worst possible spot. And now I'm like, I'll figure it out. Like, it's not the end. It's not the end of the world. I'm not just gonna pick up my stuff and walk off the golf course. Like, I'll figure it out. I'll move on. And my dad always said, growing up, he's like, just play golf. Like, you find the ball, you hit it again. You find the ball, you hit it again.

[Pat McAfee]

Things are nice whenever it's simple. You know, it would be nice to have your swing. Your swing is unbelievable. We, obviously having you on the program today has forced us all to learn more about you, which we should have done years ago. We'd like to let you know that you Turn Pro at 17, 27. Now life as a pro for basically a majority of your, you know, adult. Adult life. Now, at this point, it's like, you're a legend. But what we did quickly learn is all the slow mo shots of your swing. Outrageous. Okay. I have a daughter, MacKenzie. She turned three today. She's turned three.

[Nelly Korda]

Happy birthday.

[Pat McAfee]

I will tell her you said that. She will look up to you, Nelly. Hopefully, we will have a golf swing that we can potentially work on. When did you start? And are you ever changing your swing? Are we. Have you had the same swing your whole life?

[Nelly Korda]

Life. Oh, my gosh. If you guys look at my swing from, like, 2013, you would be like, oh, that is. That is so gross. I have. I give, like, A big shout out to my coach, David Whelan. Like, he is the one that built my swing. Like, and also my dad and my parents, like, they spent so many hours with me just working on tempo. Like, that is the one thing that they ingrained in my brain. And my dad always refused. Referred to as, like, Coca Cola. Coca Cola. So that was, like, the key. Yes, it was super simple, but it was like, the key to having a very fluid. But there's been so many times, I mean, like, I see all the smallest of pieces in my swing. Like, I see it if it's laid off or if I'm a little bent over or if I'm a little too tall. But I always revert back to the same tendencies. I think so many golf courses, golfers, athletes will tell you, especially because golf is so technical, that you always revert back to your old tendencies. And, like, right now, what I'm working on, I think the biggest thing that I changed from last year actually, is I have higher shoes. So I'm trying to actually get closer to the ground with my chest. And with that being, I actually get a little bit deeper in my swing, and I hinge it a little faster. So it's just. It's literally like the smallest of things. But, yeah, I mean, golfers are crazy. I'm crazy just to, like.

[Pat McAfee]

I know. I think you have to be. I'll tell you what, I'm crazy in my swing is what we like to classify as ass, you know? So I'm trying to learn anything I possibly can. All I know. I was invited down to the Masters. First time ever. It was beautiful. There was an event where there was a golf coach at it from Iowa, and he put me through a couple drills. He was going to make me a scratch golfer. And every drill was basically, look like Nelly looks. That's what I realized from here. Put your head on a brick wall. Don't move it. Okay. Don't move your brick wall. Let's go ahead and forward. Lean in that tire thing. Got to load up on your back foot. You should be able to lift your left foot, but you shouldn't do that, obviously. Get into this slot, turn that like you have the perfect swing. I just want to let you know that that is. That's fantastic. It'd be really cool to have that for my daughter. And what I'm hearing you say is you always go back to your tendencies. Her first time learning, she's got. We got to get a good one.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

We gotta get a good dog. We gotta Get a good engineer.

[Connor Rogers]

We gotta get Coca Cola.

[Nelly Korda]

Coca, yes, exactly. Coca Cola. I mean, you've had a couple weeks to work on it since the Masters. Like, let. What's your swing update? Is it working?

[Toxic Tone]

He still come out of pocket?

[Pat McAfee]

No. Come out of pocket. Nelly. I want to let you know, I have not played a single time since. But if I was to get out there, I think I'm getting in that thing and I want to do this. Nelly. Nobody wants me to do it. I want to go here. Here.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, God.

[Pat McAfee]

Here, Right to there. That's what I want to do. Get it right in there.

[Nelly Korda]

I mean, there have. There has been players that have paused at the top. I mean, you can't look at your Hovland. He's like, had like a pause at the top.

[Pat McAfee]

Cam Young. Cam Young. Is he good? I don't know. He stops that thing right here.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

He doesn't put it directly in front of his forehead before he takes it back.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, it doesn't matter how I get there.

[Toxic Tone]

The point. Get there.

[Connor Rogers]

You get there kind of does, though.

[AJ Hawk]

That's kind of what she's saying. It does.

[Nelly Korda]

Swing your swing. Swing your swing.

[Pat McAfee]

Like I have it, Nelly. And I'm. I need a new one. I need to build a brand new boom. So as long as I get there, I think that's all that really matters. Because I'm going to be honest, Nelly, I don't think I'm ever going to get your swing. I don't think that's ever going to happen. Hopefully.

[Nelly Korda]

I have been working on it since I was 2 years old, so

[Pat McAfee]

my daughter's living. Oh, my God. We got to get her to work asap. Speaking of, I need to be a better dad. Go ahead, D. Buzz.

[Darius Butler]

Speaking of, you started to this research saw both your parents are professional tennis players. I know your sister is a golfer as well. How did you get to golf and not tennis, especially starting that early?

[Nelly Korda]

I was actually really that annoying little sister that wanted to do everything big sis did. Yeah. Just like. I think I just fell in love with it because I. It was a sport that all of us could do together. You know, tennis is just so one on one. And I think with golf also, people may not realize it, but it doesn't matter how good or bad you are. Like, you guys can all go on the golf course and share the range together. Go out on the golf. Go out on the golf course and play around, and it doesn't matter, like, you know, how many pro ams I've played and they've been like, oh, this is my first time holding a club. And I'm like, well, this is great, great, like let's have a day. And I don't know, I just, I think I correlate the two, like family time and golf. And that's like one of the things that drove my love for the game early on. And then I love competing. Like I love going head to head. But my brother, which by the way, he's a huge fan of your guys show, he was so pumped I was going on shout out. He's player and he played hockey. Growing up he thought golf was just so boring. And then now he is a professional tennis player.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, thanks for leaving them out. Debug program. Shout supporter, family. We continue digitally with a goat.

[Darius Butler]

Sorry, bro.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, please do. We love you, dude. We continue digitally as SportsCenter picks up here on ESPN. That's Nelly Corda. We appreciate you all. Goodbye. Okay, we're still live. Nelly. Great wave. Good touch. Good touch at the end there. That was a good touch. That's very golf wave.

[Nelly Korda]

The golf wave.

[Darius Butler]

I didn't mean to leave Sebastian out either, but it was golf.

[Connor Rogers]

Sea bass.

[Darius Butler]

We love sea bass over here.

[Nelly Korda]

All right.

[Pat McAfee]

Yes, we certainly do. We love, love where he checks the watch. Checks the watch. We love everything about that. Obviously you talked about playing with amateurs. You did something that's a complete opposite of that, I do believe. Go ahead, Tone.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Toxic Tone]

Now you also talked about swinging your swing and being competitive. I watched a couple weeks ago you and Scotty Scheffler hitting draws into a green. How cool was it to to play with Scotty and like when you get in those situations with obviously the two world number ones, are you guys sharing swing thoughts or your swing thought are so different that you're not and then being competitive, if you two are playing together, who's getting strokes?

[Nelly Korda]

You know, we do these tailor made super shoes at the end of the year and like that's when we all get together and it's just so much fun. Especially like after the years that Scotty has had. And it's so cool to see always on my sheet that I get to do a, a video shoot with Scotty and, and I think that for sure, like we're very competitive, but it's also like super light hearted during the shoots and to see like the way that he thinks about golf. It's really unique how every single player thinks about their shots and the way that they execute. Like I did one with Tommy Fleetwood and I love Tommy Fleetwood. Like he is by far, like my favorite golfer of all time. I just love his personality and his swing. And then I, like, do something with Scotty and I just see, like, how much he works the ball, and I'm just like, he's. You're such a talent. And for me, I. I try to simplify the game as much as possible. And I definitely think that, like, every golfer is a complete nut. But those. Those times that we all get together and we kind of share our own thoughts about, like, how we want execute the shots, and then we're like, oh, my gosh, like, we're all like mad scientists in a way.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, we're just talking about Einstein and Oppenheimer. Yeah, we're big on the scientists. But you would have to be because everything is what, like a fifteenth of a centimeter is potentially taller cleats. A complete loss. What's that?

[Connor Rogers]

Taller shoes?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, exactly.

[Nelly Korda]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

They made some different cleats for me. A little different soul all of a sudden. Oh, well, I gotta bend over I guess now. But nice shoes to walk in, I assume. I assume they're very nice to walk in.

[Nelly Korda]

I don't know how my feet are very happy. But yeah, it's like, all about you, like, mishit it by a centimeter. And this thing goes way, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Career over.

[Nelly Korda]

It's just about like centimeters in golf. But it's so like my. I talked to my dad so many times, and like, he played. He played tennis and he would feel a gram in his racket. A gram. I mean, that's like a dollar. That's a dollar bill. So everyone, every athlete, they just has. They all have their own quirks.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, absolutely. Whenever you are a master of your sport, you're going to know it inside and out. You certainly are that. I don't know. So you're 27. You started at 2. That's 25 years. Okay, I just turned 39. Let's assume I start next year. So when I turn 65, there you go.

[Nelly Korda]

I don't know. I think your swing speed is going to just decline, though.

[Pat McAfee]

No science, Nellie, you don't know about this because you're still competing. We got science. That swing speed might go up, to be honest. You know, there's certainly going to be a collapse, a big cliff coming. But I think that thing can only go up, and then I'll start playing smarter golf. I saw your average.283. Is that right off the tee box? 283ish.

[Nelly Korda]

Yeah. But I honestly never hit my shots 100%. One. I think my back would break. And two, I feel like there's way more control when you don't try to smash every single ball. Like, I don't not want to swing out of my shoes. Shoes ever. And I think that's what I see with a lot of amateurs is like, they get that driver in their hands and they're like, okay, like, I'm gonna grip and rip right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, aj. Yeah. That is what we're doing, Nelly. How many times I get a chance to do this? I don't know.

[Nelly Korda]

I like, how many golf balls do you lose around that?

[Pat McAfee]

See, why are we bringing that up? How about how many things. How many times I get to actually swing out of my shoe? And it actually counts. I'm at least a two sleeve guy, though. Yeah, but you're not going to get me through a full 18. Yeah, right. I'm at 12, 13 holes. I got to go. We going. It's so long. And then the walking. Geez. I did that a couple times out at the American Century in Tahoe. Bruised all my toes, blisters everywhere. Exhausted. So sore. I'm like, all this. My swing sucks. I'm not good. I'm getting embarrassed in front of people, and my entire body hurts from walking a mountain. I feel like a dipshit. John Daly used to walk these things. Patrick Reed stomping through these. Oh, yeah. And I'm out here dying. It was just a bad experience. I retired from the game two years. Nelly. I put the sticks down. Oh, I retired. I quit.

[Nelly Korda]

But now you have a new swing. Thought so you're making a comeback.

[AJ Hawk]

Yep.

[Darius Butler]

Okay.

[Nelly Korda]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Which is the superior.

[M]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

If we were to do.

[Nelly Korda]

Would you say golfers are athletes?

[Pat McAfee]

Athletes, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

Yes, definitely.

[Nelly Korda]

We're settling it here.

[Pat McAfee]

Hold on. What happens? So that happens. You get. Said you're not. If people say you're not an athlete.

[Nelly Korda]

I mean, I mean, that's kind of like, you know, the. What they always say is, like, golf is like the retirement sport. Right. But pickleball came in, goes out and plays like, they walk four days, 18 holes. And it's not just that, like, we're walking Monday through Wednesday also, like, we're in the gym, we're walking, working hard, we're practicing. And, like, people actually experience that for the week, and they're dead. And we do that, like, weeks in a row. So I've always heard that. And I love that. We're settling it here.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, absolutely. We'll be the authority on that. I'm sure people will take us seriously. I'm sure that's the right. We're the right people to do that. People don't even think I'm an athlete, you know, And I'm not in the grand scheme of things. You are definitely golfers higher up in the athlete community than a punter in the NFL, definitely. So, yeah, I would love to say you guys super athletes if I had to say anything perfect.

[Nelly Korda]

I mean, that's just.

[Pat McAfee]

How are you with ball sport? Do you throw? Do you throw? Catch?

[Nelly Korda]

Yeah, I throw. I throw. Yeah. I've actually just become a big packers fan, so I've just gotten into football. I have my cheese head right here.

[Connor Rogers]

Wow.

[Pat McAfee]

How come you just got in? This is brand new. You're a Packers fan. They're going to love to hear this. Ty is going to love to hear this.

[Nelly Korda]

Yeah. So my fiance, he's a huge packers fan, and I'm kind of marrying into it, and I've, like, full. I fully sent into it. I love it. Been out to Lambeau Field. I think it's the greatest place in the world. I've been on the field, like, so cool. I love go. I love watching other sports, and I think the atmosphere there was super, super cool.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, listen, they're gonna love to hear that. And the NFL as a whole. I don't want to speak for everybody, but we're pumped a goat is coming into our community. Go ahead and embrace the hell out of it. Now. They're going to be showing you a lot now that you start poking your head at those games. The NFL is certainly going to get the most. Well, and there is Nelly Corner, by the way, the greatest of all time whenever it comes to the lpga. She is a massive fan. So I can't wait to watch your rise in the NFL pop culture world. We're appreciative of you joining us here. AJ Has a question for you, actually. Nelly.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, no, you mentioned how amateurs will swing out of their shoes. I guess I've seen you give some swing tips to. To, you know, maybe scrubby, terrible players like myself and Pat sometimes. But what. I guess, what are some of the most common mistakes that you see? Where I know you get paired up in pro ams all the time and you. So you've seen every. All the range of golfers. Like, what are the most common things that bad golfers like us do?

[Nelly Korda]

Well, there's a few. How long we got?

[AJ Hawk]

We got some time.

[Nelly Korda]

I would say. I would say the first mistake that I see is, like, on the range. Right. You're warming up to go play. Like, if you don't know where you're aiming on the range, there's no way that you know where you're aiming. Like, how do you know where you're. Where the.

[Toxic Tone]

What if you skip the range?

[Nelly Korda]

Well, then that's your number one problem.

[Pat McAfee]

How many swings do I have? How many hours you want me at this place? The round itself.

[Nelly Korda]

Go out there. It just takes 10 minutes. That's it. 10 minutes before your team, you kind of. We call that calibration. Those are our, like, calibration drills. Your. Your eyes change every single day. And having that stick down on the ground and going from ball to flag and knowing, like, that your. Your mind is. And your eyes are calibrating, that's really important. So first step, always have a stick on the range. Two. I mean, there, you know, working on your short game, your putts, your chips around the greens. I mean, that's so much fun to. For other people to do. And at the end of the day, I would say yes. It's so easy to compare your swing to, like, the perfect. Perfect swing of, like, Adam Scott, or a lot of people compare their swing to mine. But at the end of the day, like, swing your own swing. Like, find the ball, hit it again. Find the ball, hit it again. And then once you start to get hooked on the game, like, then you can kind of dissect, like, okay, where should I get better? Maybe I should go get a lesson. But if you're not inclined to go get a lesson, like, my first tip is always learn how to aim.

[Darius Butler]

Learn.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you for that. Well, it sounds like we got to get on the goddamn range, too.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

10 minutes, calibrate.

[Nelly Korda]

I have a work time aiming, too. Like, on Sunday of last week, I. Or yesterday, I was starting to aim so far, right. And that's one of my tendencies is, like, my head starts to tilt a little back at address, and I start to kind of aim a little bit more, right? And then I just start to swing a draw a little too much, let's

[Pat McAfee]

say for the people that are asking out there, not me. Okay, the people that are out there. What am I aiming? My shoulders? My feet? What the hell? Like, I've. The feet is where I'm trying to. Is that what I'm doing?

[Nelly Korda]

I'm feet. But everything has to be in line. Your feet have to be in line with your knees. Your knees have to be in line with your hips. Your hips have to be in line with shoulders.

[Pat McAfee]

And I SC the ball. It goes.

[Nelly Korda]

So, I mean, I'm just telling you guys, you know, if you're picking up golf, you're going to be crazy. And you just get used to it.

[Pat McAfee]

I love that. Well, it sounds like the craziness is certainly working for you, and we're incredibly pumped that we get a chance to watch this career continue to go. We all know Ms. Patty Berg. Okay. 1937, 1958 legend.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

PB.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

PBA 18.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Patty Berg, now she could spin it.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

I got 15 majors. You all the time in the world to go chase. We can't wait to watch it all. Congrats to you getting back on top. The LPGA and also just seemingly golf and life as a whole. Cheers to you, Nelly. Thank you for joining us.

[Nelly Korda]

Thank you guys. I really appreciate it.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, how much season do you have left until November? Holy it.

[Nelly Korda]

Yeah. Long.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Will you join us again through the

[Nelly Korda]

season here or hopefully if you guys have me back.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, we got golf season happening. The weather's getting warm, so this swing might be coming together here.

[Darius Butler]

I got some selfish questions to ask.

[Pat McAfee]

Do you have.

[Darius Butler]

So I'm a little past that point of like, you know, the. I can hit the ball, I can feel, I can score below. Not. I'm hooked. You know, three years ago I started playing. One of your swings was one of the swings I watched, obviously. Actually, I'm trying to break 80, though. So what's the tips? I know most people come out, hey, let me just get a couple more birdies. But what is your advice to breaking 80 for the first time? Never done it.

[Nelly Korda]

My. Well, one. Do you have a stick on the range?

[M]

I don't.

[Toxic Tone]

You don't have a lineman stick?

[Danny Green]

I don't.

[Darius Butler]

I have it, but I don't use it. Okay, so wake up.

[Pat McAfee]

You gotta aim, bro.

[Toxic Tone]

You're not been listening.

[Pat McAfee]

Shut up. Missing the whole range.

[Darius Butler]

Can you continue, Nelly?

[Connor Rogers]

Two.

[Nelly Korda]

Two. Like, do you go out and actually, like, work on any part of your game? Like, okay, like, let's say just go out and put four T's around the cup at four feet and like, try to make eight in a row. Like, go around. Like, these are like the smallest of things that I do, though. Like go out and chip a little bit. Like, do. Do drills. Like, it's. It's a lot of fun to actually do drills. I, like, won't leave a spot until I've completed a really hard drill. But I would say, like, one, making sure that you know how to aim. Two, not swinging out of your shoes. Learning how to, like, control your swing speed. Like, okay, if I want to hit an 80 yard shot, I can hit it with. With two clubs. I can hit it with a 54 degree, and I can hit it with a 58 degree because I'm starting to control my swing speed. So it's like, it's like things like that, that, like, really set apart. I think, like, really good golfers to, like, beginners where they're like, okay, ball. I'm just trying to hit it really hard. Like, then you're like, okay. I'm learning how to start my ball on the right target to make four foot putts. Like, it's just like the smallest of things that will actually add up. And then I'm worried. Like, 80 for you.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm worried.

[Darius Butler]

Thank you.

[Pat McAfee]

I'm never gonna do any of that. I got a bad feeling. I need to get the bug to start making four. Four putts right here. Look, we got. We got right here.

[Nelly Korda]

Please send it my way.

[Pat McAfee]

Please. Yeah, Well, I couldn't imagine the amount of time you've spent on the practice range. Practice green, greens, all those things throughout your entire life. You started when you were two years old.

[Darius Butler]

Crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Can you send. I'm not gonna do it.

[Nelly Korda]

My skin has no chance, guys. When I'm. When I'm like 40 and 50, my skin is gonna be looking like 70 with how much time I've spent.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but do you get a sweet, like Stu Sink? Yeah. Did you see. Did you see his. His son? Oh, sorry, sir. The most recent one. It is boom bang.

[Nelly Korda]

No, I'm. I'm like, applying sunscreen religiously. I do have, like, a really bad whoop. Tan.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, wow.

[Nelly Korda]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Careful of sunscreen.

[Nelly Korda]

I came back from Mexico. Like, I'm definitely. My hand is a different color to. Compared to the rest of my body.

[Pat McAfee]

The golf tan lines are spectacular.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The socks, the. The. The socks on the permanent socks.

[Nelly Korda]

Yeah, I get those all the time. Like. Oh, you didn't take your socks off at the beach.

[Pat McAfee]

Funny. No. I'm a professional golfer. Shut up. Could you imagine if that's how you responded? Be so sick. Oh, sweet tan lines. What? You bury your feet at the beach? No, actually just won my third major and back to back in Mexico, so. Yep.

[Nelly Korda]

Yeah, I don't think I could do that. I just. I'm just like. Yeah, you know, I just own. Own the own the different tans.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, well, we'll do it for you. We'll do it for you. It's a Wednesday season conclude

[Nelly Korda]

a week before Thanksgiving.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's Go. Let's win this thing. We're going on the ride. We're going on the ride.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You've had six straight top two finishes, I do believe. Let's go. Let's see. We're going to ride alongside. We're so thankful that you joined us and good luck the rest of the way.

[Nelly Korda]

Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thanks for having me.

[Pat McAfee]

Just think about it. Lift your leg up.

[Nelly Korda]

Oh, you need to do Coca Cola.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah. Yeah.

[Nelly Korda]

You're trying to grip and rip.

[M]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Trying to do Pepsi.

[Pat McAfee]

No Coca Cola, baby.

[Toxic Tone]

Smooth.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Nice and smooth, baby. Yeah. Of course. All right. You're the best. Ladies and gentlemen, Nelly Cord. Harry Douglas here. PayPal is now the official peer to peer payment sponsor of the NFL. Which means all the money moments that fandom creates where they're splitting tailgate calls or chipping in on tickets and game day food between friends are covered. Wherever the game is played or watched. PayPal moves with fans. You can send money through text, email or directly to friends with eligible accounts on Venmo. Just download the PayPal app and share all the moments that matter account with PayPal is required. Not available in all regions where PayPal operates.

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[Pat McAfee]

Just so good at golf.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

Filthy.

[Pat McAfee]

We're just watching clips earlier today. Yeah, right. Just smoothest of all time. How you doing? Keep it moving. I assume people do ask her about her swing all the time because how nice it is. We probably just did the most stereotypical golf conversation she's ever had. And every time she's had to have a conversation. And I'll tell you what. Awesome human for it all. Yeah, she's a beast over there. D bu.

[Darius Butler]

So smooth. I love her game and she gave some good tips. Aim. That's important. Learn how to aim, because I do. That is suck. When you hit the ball, you compress the out of the ball but you pull it and Oh, I was aimed that way. So aiming the drills and then not swinging 100%. She says she never swings.

[Toxic Tone]

Average 280, just not 100%.

[Darius Butler]

I assume that's probably the same for most girls golfers.

[Connor Rogers]

Not Scotty.

[Pat McAfee]

Scotty fell out of the box.

[Connor Rogers]

That's what's so frustrating is because like she says that I feel like everything she just said is correct. But then Scotty Scheffler is the number one golfer in the world for the men. Is swinging out of his shoes. Every single time I'm watching him golf, it's like, it's crazy. But that's the whole swing your swing thing, you know?

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, swing your swing.

[Toxic Tone]

Swing your swing.

[Pat McAfee]

Scotty Shefford told me to do the same thing. Seems like the number one golfers in the world. I will not miss an opportunity to asked him what I need to be doing.

[Darius Butler]

Same.

[Pat McAfee]

Both of them say, swing your swing. It's like my swing is ass. Can you, can you give me a little something else to help me out? Just find it. You'll find it. It's like these two are weapons. Golf's in a great place. Fantastic watch this weekend. How about the Kentucky Derby?

[Shams Charania]

So fun.

[Connor Rogers]

Really cool.

[Pat McAfee]

19.6 million viewers average, obviously. Is that particular number huge? Huge show. Congrats. NBC continuing to just crush everything. Everything in the race itself, obviously. A lot of lead up, a lot of shenanigans, a lot of Tom foolery, a lot of quizzing, a lot of mint juleps, a lot of scenes, a lot of interviews, a lot of pre races, a lot of that build up to the Kentucky Derby. The most exciting two minutes in sports or whatever it was. It lived to the building. Golden Tempo put on a hell of a show out there.

[Toxic Tone]

The fact that it was Golden Tempo and Renegade at the end was insane because you see where Golden Tempo comes from. And then did you see Renegade out of the game? Gates the. Obviously he was on the rail. He was in the one slot and the five horses to the right of him just. Just came crashing down on him. So he had to pull back and then make an incredible run. There's a lot of really good runs out of these horses on Saturday.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, the Rapoli thing with the Renegade horse I thought was really cool. Like typically, I feel like I will watch the Kentucky Derby, see a couple things, you know, immediately after, but on social media, Repole talking to his, you know, jockey basically like, hey, if you're going to lose, it was going to be to your brother, which you mentioned earlier, which I didn't really even notice until I saw the Repoli and Rapoli said.

[Pat McAfee]

Family won today.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, don't cry like smack. Super Italian.

[Connor Rogers]

Hey, yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, listen, don't you cry today. If you're gonna lose anybody, you lose to your brother. Family won today, okay? It was like, the most Italian reaction of all time. And his horse ran a great race. I assume he's very proud of Renegade for the race that they ran, but Golden Tempo just coming flying from the back, stealing the Kentucky Derby living. Here it is right here. Hey, listen, listen. Do we have sound for this? Your brother.

[Connor Rogers]

Your brother.

[Pat McAfee]

That's why you're the best rider in the country. That's why you're the best writer on the country. You're the best.

[Toxic Tone]

All right.

[Pat McAfee]

Hey, that was super dying of him right there. Kissed him. Kissed him right there on the cheek.

[Connor Rogers]

Come here.

[Pat McAfee]

Come here.

[Connor Rogers]

You see the suit?

[Pat McAfee]

Proddy you. Hey, baby girl. Over here. Crying. That's how proud.

[Toxic Tone]

The owner's boxes were awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Toxic Tone]

Even celebration, a lot of them. Even. Even the. The winner's owner's box was awesome. But every. Like, all the. That owner's box, I can't remember who it was for. To the right of the.

[Connor Rogers]

Oy.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh.

[Toxic Tone]

Which came in third, I believe. And then the. The winner is to the left of them. But, like, they were all, like. It was awesome scenes.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Kentucky Derby seemingly delivered on all fronts. I'm gonna say it. I'm gonna say it. Oh, no, I'm okay just watching it from home.

[Toxic Tone]

I can't.

[AJ Hawk]

I got no doubt.

[Toxic Tone]

I gotta go.

[Darius Butler]

You never been booze on the ground?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, yeah, I've been in here.

[Darius Butler]

You've done it. Oh, okay.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I've done it. First year out here, it was my birthday weekend. Obviously, it kind of always falls on that. No, but I. I don't think I had played yet. I don't think I had played for the Colts here, but I was out here for. Whatever Workouts. Yeah, we went down there. What a time.

[Darius Butler]

What was the fit?

[Pat McAfee]

Fourth street left. Shorts, obviously, boat shoes, top in shirt, sunglasses, big hat. So much boozing in there. It was rainy, so it was all muddy. I mean, it was exactly how you think. And then Fourth street live, which is downtown Louisville, like, they get after it. I mean, it is. I mean, this guy would know better. You watched from home this week. Did you miss it? Did you get the. The itch to be down there in Louisville to Churchill grounds, hollow grounds, to watch Golden Tempo kind of electrify the entire race?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, it was A fun race. It is. Yeah. It's obviously very cool to go there, but it's like anything. Like it's about the people you go with.

[Toxic Tone]

So.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, I always get to go and hang out with a bunch of old, old teammates I don't see very often. So it's awesome getting back with them. But yeah, it's, it's awesome. But it is definitely like it's too. If you go. A lot of people go two full days, they'll go Friday like 9:30am till 6 or 7 and then Saturday do the same thing. So like, you better strap in and watch some horse races.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, you better strap in and just really kind of deal with the whole. Because don't you get bust in and out too. Like it's hard to get into the area, I think. Right?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, everything's. Everything's tough getting in and out. But yeah, it's. It's a process.

[Pat McAfee]

Certainly worth it though, so.

[Connor Rogers]

Oh yeah, it's cool.

[AJ Hawk]

It's cool. What a different world.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, very different world. We watched a man who comes from that world who was scared to say that he actually is from that world world hit a nine horse on Friday night while we were here having a nice little card night. This nine horse is all Bruce needed and he had been calling it from the beginning. Didn't even see the nine on the graphic at the bottom because it was hidden behind one of the ponies. Bruce, this is a nice little weekend for you in horse racing. I would say the ponies delivered nicely for old Bruce Brown's bank account.

[M]

Yeah, it was an awesome Kentucky Oaks for me. I, I hit the pick six there with the, the nine horse favorite favorite. I, I believe it was Joe Jose Ortiz on the, on the ride there as well. But yeah, it was a great weekend. Great, great Kentucky Derby. Congrats to Golden Tempo and, and all the connections. Unbelievable ride. That final stretch run from last to first. It's like if you were making a, a horse racing movie, that's what you would want the final scene to be. Just an unbelievable ride from Ortiz to go up there and, and obviously catches his brother on, on, on Renegade. A ton was made about all the jockeys kind of switching horses. Irad Ortiz had his like sort of the pick of the litter between five horses. Every race that Golden Tempo has ran, he has been the jockey and you can kind of see obviously that sort of that connection paying off. It's not, it's not something that they're not used to.

[AJ Hawk]

Right.

[M]

Coming from behind and getting all the way up There really cool to see it all pay off.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I I enjoyed the of the rest. I enjoyed learning the story the so happy.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah right.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[M]

So happy with Mark. Glad the trainer.

[Pat McAfee]

It's crazy that much like March Madness I find myself knowing nothing.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And then all of a sudden over like a two day period I'm like massively invested in these things that I know very little about. And then all of a sudden I see myself downloading a new app.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And then trying to figure out I

[Toxic Tone]

shouldn't have done that.

[Pat McAfee]

Have to put a bank account in again and do an entire thing again. It's like wow, this is crazy how this all works out. But it does feel special. And then what's next Freak Nasty over there in Baltimore.

[Toxic Tone]

Yes.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[M]

That is the. The next hopefully golden tempo goes did

[Pat McAfee]

the go what you say?

[AJ Hawk]

How about have they said because in the past guys have won the Derby and not even tried to win the Triple crown last year.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Darius Butler]

They.

[M]

They got to see how. How Golden Tempo comes out. So as long as he's like continue to eat. Continuing eating his normal. His normal amount and is all sound. I think that they're going to send Golden Tempo to the pness but no one else from the Derby is going to go.

[Pat McAfee]

It's Great White.

[M]

Did not.

[Pat McAfee]

We need to see Great White get another shot of the great white.

[AJ Hawk]

Might be the fresh legs.

[Toxic Tone]

That's a big. I don't know if we do.

[Pat McAfee]

What. What.

[Adam Schefter]

Oh my.

[Pat McAfee]

How do you do that?

[Toxic Tone]

Cuz rattled all the other ponies before the race.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh sorry. That's Great White football.

[Connor Rogers]

Smart move.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay.

[M]

It's also like the biggest horse in the world. This horse is huge. So many hands. I obviously didn't know what a hand was last week.

[Pat McAfee]

But that.

[M]

That's one of the biggest horses I've ever seen.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I think. I think Great White needs to make his presence known. Yeah. At least. At least for the pre race routine.

[Toxic Tone]

It was the jockey's fault.

[Pat McAfee]

Absolutely.

[Toxic Tone]

Was whispering in its ear either.

[M]

It was was quite funny there. Gray White's Irish trainer. They did like a interview with him in the buildup. He was maybe the most confident trainer

[Pat McAfee]

that they talked to. He was like Great White.

[M]

I mean look at him. He's huge. We got a good chance here and then just bam. That was a terrible Irish accent. But you get it.

[Pat McAfee]

Ty Schm's not here. So obviously you were kind of put into a tough spot there. He would have picked right up for you there as the Irish lad who was speaking about the Great White Horse. Horse who just moments before getting gated. Is that what that's called? They get put into the gate? Yeah.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Every year I learn about this again. I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot. Getting into the gate is a big song and dance. Like, this is a big to do. This is a big part of the race. This is a massive piece of it. There's always some shenanigans, seemingly as they're pushing the ass end of a horse into something and then shutting it and then zooming out and then the thing's fucking off and running. Are these things jacked up? Because the amount of people you think the great white saw the great lights, said, holy hell, this is going to be a great night, and got all kind of worked up and said, you know what? Actually I'm do a backflip. Maybe the jockey was holding him back. Maybe the great white wanted to do an entire backflip and the jockey kind of slowed it down. He's not hurt, right? Not injured somehow?

[AJ Hawk]

No.

[M]

Yeah, all good. Precautionary scratch there. Obviously took a pretty hard fall onto the back. The crowd is.

[Connor Rogers]

Don't worry, they still will.

[Toxic Tone]

Whoa.

[Pat McAfee]

They said he's going home.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. Home to the phone.

[AJ Hawk]

You know what that means?

[Connor Rogers]

Where all the dogs go.

[AJ Hawk]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

I hope.

[AJ Hawk]

Of course.

[M]

That big. They need to start them anyway.

[Toxic Tone]

Yes.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

They got other ways to do that. Bad news, boys?

[Pat McAfee]

No Great whites at Freak Nasty. When's this? Couple weeks. Yeah, a few weeks.

[M]

I forget.

[Connor Rogers]

But yeah, he'll be there.

[Pat McAfee]

Backlashes this week. Weekend. You paying attention or tribal chiefs.

[Toxic Tone]

Is he fighting? You talking or does he have a match?

[Pat McAfee]

No, you're not paying attention to the backlash.

[Darius Butler]

He has

[Connor Rogers]

the time.

[Toxic Tone]

No. When you made your proclamation about the business, I joined in on that one.

[Foxy]

Me too.

[Pat McAfee]

What was the problem?

[Toxic Tone]

That if you. That if Randy lost. Never coming back.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, but I was talking about like.

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, no, I'm just out forever.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, just your eyes.

[AJ Hawk]

You excited?

[Connor Rogers]

As soon as they have something worth watching, I'll be back.

[Pat McAfee]

Geez. Cody Rhodes, Brandy Law.

[Toxic Tone]

Don't hold your breath, brother.

[Darius Butler]

Still, same gimmick.

[Pat McAfee]

I mean, well, hold your breath. Especially if Gunther's around. He's back.

[M]

Okay.

[Connor Rogers]

Nope.

[Darius Butler]

I hate Gunther. He sucks, no pizzazz. Guy stinks.

[Pat McAfee]

I put me in night night. So I can't say anything about it.

[Darius Butler]

He is violent.

[Connor Rogers]

They're already going into the cena puddle. You know, they're already desperate. So.

[Pat McAfee]

What are you talking about? Cena will be a backlash. What about that guy?

[Darius Butler]

Retired.

[Pat McAfee]

That's why you look, he lives. He lives in town.

[Toxic Tone]

I knew he was full of.

[Pat McAfee]

He's been working on something.

[Toxic Tone]

He sat right there. So I'm never coming back.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. Kind of questioned his integrity. And they go, we were right.

[AJ Hawk]

You guys got pissed at me. Every time I asked if he was coming back, you guys looked at me like I was a terrible person.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, you're right.

[Pat McAfee]

That's because he's not coming back. He's just helping the business.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, exactly. What's the scene of Puddle mean?

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly.

[Toxic Tone]

So basically what scene is doing right now is he graduated high school, but he's still going to all the parties. Okay. Go to college, John. Okay, you're done.

[Pat McAfee]

No.

[Toxic Tone]

Quit coming back to our parties with your letterman jacket on. Okay?

[Pat McAfee]

What are you talking about?

[Toxic Tone]

Leave some for the rest of us.

[Pat McAfee]

That's not what's happening. John CEN is trying to continue to build the business. He's just not wrestling anymore.

[Connor Rogers]

Okay. Yeah, I was saying, like, seeing a puddle is in the sense that right now it's kind of like a desert and everyone's just so thirsty and they. They got nothing to hold on to.

[Pat McAfee]

So they're going.

[Darius Butler]

That's not true.

[Pat McAfee]

You put John CEN on the bill and you suppress the. Get that. But yeah, getting an opportunity here. Who's the first deal?

[Connor Rogers]

Who's the first one?

[Darius Butler]

It's the same guy.

[Toxic Tone]

Is he evil fighting?

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, evil's in nxt. I do believe debuted last week. Love that. A lot of debuts in nxt.

[Toxic Tone]

The spell guy fighting.

[Pat McAfee]

Danhausen's actually looking for a tag team partner. I do believe for backlash.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, he's great. So we probably won't see him for a couple months.

[Pat McAfee]

No, we'll see Dan Hose. He's everywhere. He's a backlash. Did you see the video?

[Connor Rogers]

I did, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

He's unbelievable.

[Toxic Tone]

Where's back at? Yeah, I do like Dan, who's in his house.

[Pat McAfee]

No, he's not. Jumping Shark Danhausen. We. He's only starting housing. Yeah, that is what's happening. Is Jelly getting. Is he gonna squash somebody here? I'll tell you what. He broke my back. He almost broke my neck, so.

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, it's in Tampa. Nice.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's John C. John C. Lives here.

[Toxic Tone]

He lives in Tampa.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, the guy's been doing. Yeah.

[Toxic Tone]

I thought he lived overseas.

[Connor Rogers]

He did for those five years.

[Pat McAfee]

It's official. He's headed back to WWE Backlash. After months of planning and effort. I am so excited to break some history making news. I can't promise it'll be perfect, but I can Promise it'll change the WWE experience for superstars and fans. See you live Saturday in Tampa or at home on the ESPN app. Hell yeah. Cena. This is what you guys are all mad about. It's unbelievable.

[AJ Hawk]

What could it be? What's going to change the whole experience?

[Nelly Korda]

Experience.

[AJ Hawk]

What is it?

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know. I believe in John Cena though personally I would like to let it be known that I believe in John Cena.

[Connor Rogers]

I did.

[Pat McAfee]

So whatever.

[Toxic Tone]

He's lied right to our face. Sat right there.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Foxy]

He was grandstanding in this office.

[Toxic Tone]

Little stupid coffee.

[Connor Rogers]

He was.

[Pat McAfee]

He was a local coffee shop.

[Toxic Tone]

He was drinking that gimmick little coffee for six hours.

[Pat McAfee]

He supported the business.

[Connor Rogers]

Said, are you going to question my integrity? I'm never coming back back.

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Connor Rogers]

And lo and behold, sounds like already his integrity.

[Pat McAfee]

No, he's not in the ring.

[Toxic Tone]

I saw him in the ring announce with. With the microphone in his hand announcing

[Pat McAfee]

attendance, which was an incredible number. And I think he was partially to blame for the amount of people that came. He's not wrestling even whenever the Housens came out. No physical. No physicality. The John Cena being around WWE is a good thing, not a bad thing. I think personally that backlash tribal chief

[Connor Rogers]

housing killed that is he tribal chief comedy. He will be there. That was actually funny.

[Toxic Tone]

Who's tribal chief wrestler?

[Pat McAfee]

Jacob Fatu. We talk yada me. We just talked about that.

[Toxic Tone]

I didn't know anything that you were saying.

[Pat McAfee]

That's on you, Adam.

[Connor Rogers]

Of me.

[Toxic Tone]

It's on you.

[Pat McAfee]

Why is it on me?

[Toxic Tone]

Cuz you said I should have counted Randy.

[Pat McAfee]

I should have counted quick.

[Toxic Tone]

If Randy loses, we're out. And I'm not.

[Pat McAfee]

No, no.

[Toxic Tone]

I took my marching orders and I won.

[Pat McAfee]

Wait, no, no. Cuz if I would have just went game.

[Toxic Tone]

You didn't.

[Pat McAfee]

Did different business.

[Darius Butler]

I think you still saved the business.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, yeah, no, that's what I'm. This was the problem.

[Toxic Tone]

The bazzaz was that you did.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah. You pimped.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you ever world title.

[Connor Rogers]

You did pimp it.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

It's like you pimped a home run.

[Darius Butler]

It got robbed.

[Pat McAfee]

That's on me. It's on me. I got lost in there a little bit, you know. How could you not there. I already had a neck brace on. He attacked, saw my weakness. That's why he's the viper.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The apex predator.

[Connor Rogers]

He knows. Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

The legend killer.

[Toxic Tone]

He's got an animal inside of him.

[Pat McAfee]

The depiction of perfection for professional wrestling felt so good that coming out of my mouth in the stadium. Stadium's Tough, cuz the echo.

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Stadium is tough. That's not a place you want to be speaking it. Play knee to ears in there. Didn't think about that until as I was going, oh, forgot about this one. This is good. It's the business, kid. Oh, yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

I messed the people up, me.

[Pat McAfee]

Did you see the Pittsburgh Steelers one before we did the NFL draft? Experience with the kick, with the giveaway.

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Hello. Oh, and it starts and I go, oh, no, I was not prepared for this. We just threw this together in the last 25 minutes and I didn't even think about the Echo while I'm talking to these people. It was incredible. What a fun time. What a fun little life. What a great experience. Thank you to sports. Huge ones tonight. Aj let's get your picks on these things. In the east, we got flyers at Hurricane 7pm on ESPN. Hurricanes currently up one zero. This is the second round. Who do you like? How do you like it? Aj let's go ahead and make a pick here.

[AJ Hawk]

You know what we were. We spent some good time with Coach Bill Cower back at the draft. I know he is a Hurricanes guy. He has the. What do you call it? What did he do with the siren situation?

[Pat McAfee]

He blared.

[AJ Hawk]

He did that whole situation because of my love for him. I'm taking the old Hurricanes on this one.

[Pat McAfee]

I'll tell you what, I love Bill Cower too, man. That was. That was an incredible couple days with Coach Carr. I mean, actually an incredible couple days. He said, you know, the deal that was made for him to do that was something that he. I could have never expected. You know, Coach Cower, he did wail on their side against the Pens, I believe.

[Toxic Tone]

And also Stormy put Girthy in a body bag.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Good social media coming out of this particular.

[Toxic Tone]

The Hurricanes mascot, Stormy put Girthy into a body.

[Pat McAfee]

Is the name.

[Toxic Tone]

I refuse to call him that.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, maybe the Girthy one. Okay. Obviously it's a compliment though. A Muppet.

[Toxic Tone]

Depends on what body part appendage you're talking about.

[Pat McAfee]

Well, I think it normally only gets talked about for one. I don't think there's normal. Unless he's other.

[Toxic Tone]

Unless he's a soup can.

[Pat McAfee]

There could be a chance Campbell's happening.

[AJ Hawk]

Not a bad situation.

[Connor Rogers]

Also play face.

[Pat McAfee]

But on that note, gritty is who you're talking about. Yeah, Gritty got buried.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, he did.

[Pat McAfee]

By Stormy. What's that?

[AJ Hawk]

You got a de.

[Pat McAfee]

I didn't hear it. I didn't hear it. I didn't hear It. You're talking about penises right now. What you said said I don't forget. Now I would like to know the inside joke about a penis.

[AJ Hawk]

You're talking about soup. Caring.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. And then there was a. That would be terrible. And then somebody could complimented it and then. Welcome to hell, you muppet reject. This is what we were talking about. Nothing to do with penises.

[Toxic Tone]

No.

[Pat McAfee]

Or soup cans. Just two mascots kind of getting after it on social media. Okay. I do appreciate that. But we would assume this would be a very fair fight between Stormy and Gritty. I'm not sure gritty can die. And I think Stormy would kill. What a tweet. What a time.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

And that's when social media is good. What you say, Lopez?

[AJ Hawk]

What I said soup can. I said he goes east and west. That's all I said.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, got you.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Adam Schefter]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

You gotta hit the walls, I guess. Can't hit the back door. Gotta hit the sides. Malik Willis. I don't know if you saw this, AJ he overthrew his opening pitch. He did have a glove though, which nobody's really talking about. I like that glove. Came prepared with a glove, which I respect. Very rare. Whenever it comes to first pitches, he overthrows nasty. And then obviously the whole world goes oh, the dollar. Dolphins are going to stick your thoughts on whether or not this is going to lead to success or not.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, we. We touched on it before. Obviously this is all. This is all success as long as you don't bounce it. I am an absolute fan of whatever you do. I wish you would have thrown it into the 50th throw up.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe the next move from somebody is to fully embarrass yourself and chuck this thing over the backstop. I believe is the name of that.

[Toxic Tone]

Yes, it is.

[Pat McAfee]

And you got to get over the net with.

[Toxic Tone]

That'd be wide there. That'd be my big takeaway. Was. Look at the ham Hawks. He's got got for Cavs. That was my takeaway.

[Darius Butler]

It's my quarterback.

[Connor Rogers]

He looks jacked.

[Pat McAfee]

Can you go back a little bit?

[Connor Rogers]

Right there.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

He does look jacked.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. The Cavs.

[Darius Butler]

It's working.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Power.

[Pat McAfee]

And a football is so much bigger than a baseball. I've been trying to throw a baseball or a whiffle ball in here. It's not easy for a football thrower. So Malik Willis has been training so hard with football. You put that little tiny baseball in his hand. He's like Shaquille o' Neal holding a basketball.

[Darius Butler]

Remember we watching that Joe Burrow Was that finish?

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, yeah. That was not good either.

[Darius Butler]

He.

[Toxic Tone]

He threw 2 yards in dirt thr

[Darius Butler]

10 times in a row.

[Connor Rogers]

That's interesting.

[Pat McAfee]

I forgot about Joe Burrow not being able to throw a strike either.

[Connor Rogers]

And that was short left, though. That's what gives me even more faith in Malik because it was much closer to Mahomes than it was to Burrow.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's hard to throw baseball. It's hard to throw. Hey, how the Reds doing?

[AJ Hawk]

Dominant. Doing great. What are you talking about? We got a long season ahead of us. We're doing great.

[Pat McAfee]

Here's Joe Burrow representing the Cincinnati Bengals at Fanatics Fest.

[AJ Hawk]

Remember, we thought this might not be real. Remember that? We thought he might be messing around.

[Darius Butler]

Like the first one I can see maybe even.

[AJ Hawk]

Is it something about this cage, though? I feel like Reuben threw in that same cage. Maybe there's some kind of weird lasers in there taking the ball from you.

[Connor Rogers]

That one wasn't bad.

[Pat McAfee]

It should have started aiming right. I. You know, I think he just hadn't turned a baseball in a while.

[Toxic Tone]

He's making the adjustment.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Connor Rogers]

The last two are in turn.

[Pat McAfee]

Like if Malik had five, six throws. Oh, all right. Put it down.

[Toxic Tone]

Malik also mashed in the batting cage as well.

[Darius Butler]

He beat the ball in the cage.

[Pat McAfee]

He's an athlete.

[Darius Butler]

I didn't see that.

[Foxy]

Remember Orlovsky threw a nice ball in here with a baseball.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Like a thousand times in a row.

[Darius Butler]

8:00am but he was a rot when he was 12, though.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, they were.

[Darius Butler]

He said that same trajectory.

[Pat McAfee]

Did he love baseball. Who caught for him there? Gumpy.

[Darius Butler]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah.

[Toxic Tone]

Was good frame job there. It's a little low.

[Connor Rogers]

That was a good catch.

[Pat McAfee]

It was certainly. He was down in there. Yeah, Copy. Got real down low in there for Dan Orlovsky. We appreciate that. All right. I think we need to get the hell out of here.

[Toxic Tone]

How's the weather beautiful today? 75 and sunny, I believe. Maybe not so sunny right now, but 75.

[Connor Rogers]

We got some rain right now. It should be done. 25 minutes is what the.

[Pat McAfee]

That's crazy that we have that in our society right now.

[Toxic Tone]

Thank you, Joe.

[Connor Rogers]

Feels like 60. It says 69.

[Pat McAfee]

They're still working out there. Might be just a little bit light mist as opposed to maybe a real rainstorm.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Good to see the crew out there getting after it, aj.

[AJ Hawk]

Are they. The. The roundabout coming is going to be done real soon.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I think the traffic's going to be a real problem. I think traffic's going to be a real problem.

[Connor Rogers]

Allegedly. They're really moving on the construction and everything, but like they think it's going to take less time.

[Pat McAfee]

Have you heard more than I have or who are you. Are you talking?

[Connor Rogers]

Just driving by. Just getting vibes from the ass drivers too. Just kind of. Of just seeing, observing, feel they feel good about it.

[Pat McAfee]

We are in construction season. Shout out to everybody out there doing it. We appreciate you putting our world together. Certainly inconvenient for most, but who cares? Progression has to happen. Things have to get better. Sometimes you got to take it on the shins to do as such or battle the sun. Shout out to Nelly joining us.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, it was awesome.

[Pat McAfee]

I appreciated her. She was awesome. Hopefully we'll get a chance to chat with her again. We certainly knew that her league went all the way until a week before Thanksgiving, right, A.J. we knew that.

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah, we did. I tell you what, she's got a long road ahead. She's got a lot of tournaments she's going to still win this year.

[Pat McAfee]

Six top two finishes in a row now. Can she carry it for the next 55 weeks?

[Connor Rogers]

Yep.

[Toxic Tone]

What Scotty got three. Three or three second place finishes in a row for Scotty.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's starting to really get going too. He what happened to him on 18th? He fell out of that thing pretty good. Him talking about Cam Young was cool. He was talking about Cam. Cam Young training everything. Feels like he just trained everything. He didn't miss anything. Scotty was like, I got to play with him here. Wire to wire. Cam wins this entire thing. He's like, he's hitting incredible shots.

[Darius Butler]

How do you feel about him giving himself that penalty?

[Pat McAfee]

I love it. For the good of the game. He's up five strokes. Everybody said it's much easier to call that whenever you're up five. He came from a golf family, right. His dad is a golf instructor, a PGA pro. Feels like he grew up on the course. Feels like this was a good moment for him to showcase what you're supposed to do. I think that is probably how he viewed it all. All.

[Connor Rogers]

We've also seen guys that have done this in the past. I mean I'm and this is strictly just allegedly and things that were on the course. But Patrick Reed, that has fallen or followed him, Patrick Reed for a long time since a lot of people, whenever they're in the sand, him doing that whole thing like the honor of the game. It does feel like there are guys that hold it in high regard. And I don't know if Camion's thinking like, oh, if I don't Say this right now, people are going to say I'm cheating. But I do think there is that sense of like, hey, I owe it to the game.

[Pat McAfee]

Who cares why he did it? If he thought that maybe somebody was going to call him out publicly and he did it, if he thought to himself immediately for the good of the game and did it, who cares? Still did it with a lead on Sunday for the good of this great game that we love.

[Darius Butler]

D bugs. I like it. It's a beautiful game and it made me feel especially good after learning of someone in here who played high school golf and told me about how they cheated every tournament because I got a dog and we stick by the rules even though I hate it. I would like to help, but this guy, Foxy, cheating.

[Pat McAfee]

What do you mean?

[Foxy]

We would cheat in matches, in team matches, because if you're cheating, it's good for the team because you're gonna win. So in practice, no cheating. That is not allowed because we need the best golfers to be out there and need the best six. But in matches, it's a good team move to cheat in matches for it.

[Pat McAfee]

I love everything.

[AJ Hawk]

How are you cheating?

[Foxy]

Let's just say you walk up to your ball and you have a four footer. No one's looking. I'm marking that three feet away or maybe, oh, no, two feet away.

[Pat McAfee]

You cut that thing in half. If you can get away with it,

[Foxy]

that's what you do.

[Pat McAfee]

Scum back.

[Foxy]

So another one example, you know, I'm going through scorecards. End of the round, I'm like, wow, I played really bad today.

[Pat McAfee]

We're going bop, bop.

[Foxy]

You say like four or three and they're all like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the other guy goes, you got a five there, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Right.

[Foxy]

I really got a seven on it.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, I got a five there.

[Nelly Korda]

Boom.

[Pat McAfee]

Two stroke swing.

[Foxy]

That's a big one, that one. That doesn't happen much.

[Pat McAfee]

And this is why the golf gods won't bless you with anything longer than 230 yards for the rest of your life. You're not lying.

[Foxy]

And I agree with you guys. I like that Cam Young called himself on it. And like, you know, integrity, respect the game, all that. But it is a problem with the game of golf. Like, that clearly didn't give him any advantage. It clearly just slowed things down. Scotty even says in the background, like, bro, if it didn't move or if you weren't addressing it or if you didn't do it intentionally, then don't worry about it. But we always have to Go with the rules. Rules are there for a reason and just kind of.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't like that part of it. What do you want? You want Jason Kelsey jumping in Augusta's leg?

[Toxic Tone]

Sounds like he does.

[Pat McAfee]

Is that what you're trying to get rid of? The integrity of golf?

[Foxy]

Golf is already hard enough. And he didn't do anything to try to cheat and try to do his thing like Patrick Reeves. People are like, he did that on purpose to improve his life. I don't think Cam Young was doing that. Let's just keep it moving. Don't need the stroke penalty.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, I. I can agree with that, but what precedent does that set exactly?

[Foxy]

Rules are there for a reason.

[Connor Rogers]

Kids watching, man.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. My daughter's turned three today.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

She needs a golf. That is golf.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay. Not whatever you want. Well, you just want the YouTube clips anyways, don't you?

[Foxy]

Yeah, that's all I want. We're gonna all play golf. Golf at some point in the future. I don't cheat when I'm with you guys.

[Pat McAfee]

I just sure believe you for sure.

[Danny Green]

Okay.

[M]

Yep. Always finding his ball, no matter what.

[Pat McAfee]

You never would have thought that with Foxy.

[Toxic Tone]

No, you wouldn't.

[Pat McAfee]

Because he played in.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, exactly.

[Foxy]

If you're on my team, I'll cheat for us, though. We're trying to win here. All right.

[Toxic Tone]

Jesus.

[Connor Rogers]

All right, I'll play the fox.

[Pat McAfee]

Thank you for sacrificing. And no one else wants to. No, I. I'm starting to wonder how many times I've reaped the benefits of.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, you do play with him quite a bit, Foxy.

[Pat McAfee]

Cheating.

[Foxy]

I mean, there are some tournaments in high school golf where you got a scramble so you're with a teammate there. I mean, you're sending your teammate up there, found your ball, or. I mean, there are times.

[Pat McAfee]

Jeez. You're improving your lie by this much.

[Foxy]

If you can get away with it, that's a big deal on the putting.

[Pat McAfee]

On the putting green. Yeah. Turning a four footer into a. A two footer. Yeah, I'd say.

[Foxy]

And really, you're just, like, laughing about

[Pat McAfee]

it at that point.

[Connor Rogers]

It's pretty damn 10 footer into the hole.

[Pat McAfee]

Holy. Did you guys roll then?

[AJ Hawk]

Look here.

[Foxy]

And you got to keep in mind, there's a lot of goofballs that play varsity golf, so, like, you can get

[Pat McAfee]

away with a lot of stuff. You don't say. Yeah, not you.

[Toxic Tone]

Believable.

[Adam Schefter]

Not me.

[Pat McAfee]

All right, let's get the out of here, Foxy. They're gonna start looking into all the Williamston's golf records.

[Foxy]

Hey, I was all legal my senior year.

[Connor Rogers]

Let's go now.

[Pat McAfee]

Take that away. Take that away. Somehow I always was in perfect position. Never behind a tree.

[Darius Butler]

Fairway. Foxy.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, that's all. That's like we heard. I'm not getting into it. Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're in a thing together. Massive games. Okay, we already. We only picked one. Sorry. We got to finish this. Okay, so who you like? The Hurricanes there. And Flyers vs. Hurricanes. How about the Ducks and Golden Knights? 9:30 on ESPN. Who do you like in that one?

[AJ Hawk]

AJ I like the Vegas Golden Knights. I am a John Tortorella fan, and he is the. He's running the ship right now.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, so you got Torts and you got the Hurricanes. Because Bill Carr. I'll take the Flyers and I'll take the golden knights as well. DBut would you like to pick these games? Sure.

[Darius Butler]

Let me go. You know what? Flyers I want Hurricanes and Golden Knights.

[Toxic Tone]

Okay, Tone, Dick, give me the canes and dots.

[Pat McAfee]

Bucks, con man.

[Connor Rogers]

I'll go. Kane's Golden Knights.

[Pat McAfee]

Nobody believes in Sondheim in the boys in Philadelphia Cadence.

[Toxic Tone]

Haven't lost yet this entire. Haven't been down the whole playoffs rolling

[Pat McAfee]

a pretty historic run for them. And tonight, Gritty and the Flyers get gritty on the ice and they change that whole thing around. Let's go to the NBA Sixers and Knicks. Joel Embiid Seam said playing sounds like. Well, as he takes on the Knicks and Jaylen Brunson favored by seven and a half. AJ who do you like?

[AJ Hawk]

Man, I honestly, I like the Sixers here. All I can picture is Tyrese Maxi at the end of their last game. How sudden, how quick and how fast that dude can get to the hoop and take over the game at the end. And if Embiid is playing. Yeah, give me the Sixers here.

[Pat McAfee]

You like Sixers plus seven and a half?

[Adam Schefter]

Oh, sure.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. I'll take him plus seven and a half as well.

[Darius Butler]

DBut I am a little worried about the Sixers coming up off kind of that emotional hive, that big comeback game. Seven Knicks are kind of fresh. That's a lot of points. I'm still going to Sixers plus seven and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, Sixers plus seven and a half. Even though he tried to talk himself out of it.

[Toxic Tone]

Tone D. He made a lot of good points. Sixers plus seven and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

Con man, I'll take the Knicks. Okay, Knicks minus seven and a half. Connor saves the graphic, if you will. Timberwolves and Spurs. Ant man full participant or trying to get his way back into the game. Just nine days removed from a hyperextension that caused a bone bruise in his knee. Taking on Wemby and the spurs. Spurs favored by 13 and a half. Is that still the spread?

[Toxic Tone]

Down to 11 and a half.

[Pat McAfee]

11 and a half is now the spread. Okay, that makes sense with the news from Shams about Ant man potentially playing tonight. AJ who do you like?

[AJ Hawk]

How do you like it with Ant man coming back? I don't know if they're going to win, but I'm taking Minnesota at plus 11 or plus 11 and a half, right?

[Pat McAfee]

Plus 11 and a half D. But

[Darius Butler]

I'll take Spurs to cover 11 and a half.

[Toxic Tone]

Town same diva.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah, Spurs. Wemby over points. It's him versus Gobert. French battle down low. They were teammates in the Olympics.

[Pat McAfee]

Okay, I'll take the spurs in that as well. All right, let's enjoy the hell out of tonight's playoffs. We got some baseball tonight, I assume.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, the whole, whole slate.

[Darius Butler]

Awesome baseball news too.

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, yeah.

[Darius Butler]

Speaking of cheating. Foxy.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, not good. Foxy. Scubal's being shut down for. He's got to have surgery on his own elbow.

[Connor Rogers]

Damn.

[Toxic Tone]

Floating. Floating bodies in his elbow. They said two to four months or something like that. Two to three months.

[Pat McAfee]

Detroit ace Tarek Scubal will undergo surgery to remove loose bodies in his left elbow. Such procedures typically sideline players for two to three months. Scubal should return before season ends. But tough blow for the impending free agent in two. Time reigning AL Cy Young winner. That sucks.

[Connor Rogers]

Loose bump bodies.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, he's probably got a little chip in something. Yep, chipping something floating around in there.

[Darius Butler]

That sucks.

[Pat McAfee]

Kind of happens to your meniscus, I think. Piece of your meniscus kind of chips off or.

[Connor Rogers]

Damn.

[Pat McAfee]

Something else like that just kind of bounces around and it like locks up. It like locks up your.

[Toxic Tone]

Kind of where it sits.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah, it's like where it is depending upon. I did in my knee, when I hyper extended my knee, I got a dislocated patella, which is your kneecap. Your kneecap sits in groove. Mine, when I hyperextended it, it bounced outside of the groove and it bounced back. So there was like a little chip or something that was like bouncing around in there. So like when that would get into certain spots, it was like, oh my God. And then it would bounce out of the way, you know, and then you're like back to business. But yeah, I don't know if it's similar but sounds like loose bodies is something that's floating around in there and it gets real terrible when it. It happens upon some places that. All right, great. Is this because he did Team USA training camp?

[Toxic Tone]

Oh, no.

[Connor Rogers]

Legit might be.

[Foxy]

I think he should have pitched for Team usa. We would have found this earlier. He would have been back earlier. We could have won the World Series. Also, it turns out wouldn't have mattered if you pitched in the you for Team USA because this was going to happen regardless.

[Pat McAfee]

It sounds man. If he would have pitched for Team USA and then this happened.

[Connor Rogers]

Bad news.

[Pat McAfee]

It would have been loud. Especially with how much money is on the way. This doesn't affect the money. I don't think. Right. People are still going to pay Scoop. Scuba.

[Toxic Tone]

Yes.

[Darius Butler]

In his prime. Yeah.

[Toxic Tone]

If it's two, three months. Because especially if he comes back and pitches well for the rest of the season and then.

[Pat McAfee]

Yeah. Good luck out there. Scuba. We're pulling for you. Sorry, Detroit.

[Toxic Tone]

Sorry, Detroit.

[Pat McAfee]

You get the stones, you lose. Scuba. Yeah. So sorry. Motor City Kitties. What's that? The Detroit Tigers. That's what I call the Motor City Kitties. Yeah. Do a lot of people call them that? Because this could be like the Stones thing where Foxy kind of puts us out on an island and says everybody says this and nobody says it. A lot of people saying the most. Motor City Kitties. Yeah, a lot of people I know call them up real. I've never heard it before.

[Foxy]

People call them that. I don't. They'd also look for the Lions as well if you really wanted to go there.

[Pat McAfee]

Oh, you guys are a bunch of Motor City Kitties up there. I'm kind of impressed with the Motor City Kitties, though, because the lion's great animal.

[Darius Butler]

Great.

[Pat McAfee]

That's a great kitty.

[Toxic Tone]

Yep.

[Pat McAfee]

So that's a powerful kitty.

[Connor Rogers]

Yeah.

[Toxic Tone]

So tiger.

[Pat McAfee]

And the tiger's a badass cat as well.

[Toxic Tone]

Two of the. Two of the best.

[Pat McAfee]

Motor City Badass kitties, I think think you know, he could kind of get after it. The Line's going to win again. You guys missed playoffs this last year.

[Foxy]

Yeah, we're going to win again. We have the easy schedule in the NFL and also the boys gritty and chippy and ready to roll.

[Pat McAfee]

What does that mean, AJ the easiest schedule in the NFL. Are they playing professional teams?

[AJ Hawk]

Yeah. Is that possible? Are they playing some college teams?

[Foxy]

So would you guys rather have the fourth place schedule in all the divisions or would you have one first place schedule?

[Pat McAfee]

What we're saying is we think that that's all though I don't going off

[AJ Hawk]

of last year's record. Right.

[Connor Rogers]

I'm pretty sure the Patriots had the harder schedule to the beginning of the

[Pat McAfee]

season last year and then it ended up being the easiest schedule by the end of it. I think there's just so much potential fluctuation that could happen with teams and who's good, who's not good. Remember that year that we were 2 and 14 or whatever and the suck for luck stuff was happening. There was like nine one score games where if a ball just so happens to fumble loose score, we win that game. I think it's hard to just say a team. Now granted there are historically good teams and historically astounding teams. So I think you that I don't like the whole that that has become a thing though. Like you get a bad schedule. It's like there is no bad schedule. The NFL is good at football. All of them. Some perpetual ass. But we all thought of the jets right there.

[Toxic Tone]

I did not.

[Pat McAfee]

Who'd you think of?

[Darius Butler]

Brown perpetual ass Dolphins.

[Connor Rogers]

I was strictly thinking about the schedule getting thrown in Dragon's face. Even though it's just not.

[Darius Butler]

Oh, last year.

[Pat McAfee]

Exactly. Well, that's what I'm kind of saying right now. Yeah, it's not real. Yeah, like team's good that you're playing against people getting paid millions and millions of dollars to play football. Some teams just show up better obviously, especially at the end of the season. But like the jets not doing ass stuff this offseason.

[Toxic Tone]

Not yet a good draft.

[Pat McAfee]

No leaks.

[Darius Butler]

Love that. In this. In this climate. Love that.

[Pat McAfee]

That's crazy. The number two overall pick. No leak at all. They got the pickers in being filmed some other places. Places. Leaks everywhere. Literally. Like come on in, let's film all the leaks. And into the jets organization, which is notoriously ass. No leaks for that number two overall pick. I think that was a huge sign. I think that was a huge sign. Personally, AJ oh yeah.

[AJ Hawk]

I would imagine head coach Aaron Glenn is cutting the clips too with you saying that's a great sign and showing the front office as well. Hey guys, we're cleaning things up around here.

[Pat McAfee]

I think we've talked a lot of on the Jets. I don't know if they're showing much of us around here. And on that note, good luck to all parties back tomorrow. We got big games tonight in the playoffs. Round two of the NBA and NHL playoffs on the way. What a great time to be alive. If you get a chance to go see a Savannah Bananas. No, dude, do it. You're going to be put first fan first we'll sign the first autograph and last autograph. 102,000.

[Toxic Tone]

It's a lot.

[Connor Rogers]

That's crazy.

[Pat McAfee]

That's so many people going to something tonight. So many people.

[Connor Rogers]

Insane.

[Pat McAfee]

I don't know how you could hate at this point. Jesse's just going to the next place. Maybe Central Park. That'd be cool. Maybe a beach.

[Darius Butler]

Maybe the moon.

[Pat McAfee]

Maybe the moon. If it happens, he'd be there. I believe it. Him and Dana White are gonna be racing to see who can get the first event.

[Toxic Tone]

Yeah, seriously.

[Pat McAfee]

Be a friend. Tell a friend something nice might change your life. We're gonna sing together. We'll see you back tomorrow. Ty. Congratulations. We love you, man. Team UN me team on three. One, two, three. Team. Happy birthday, MacKenzie.

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