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PMS 2.0 1556 - Chris Paul, PK Subban, Iman Shumpert, Pete Thamel, Jack Hughes, Darius Butler, & AJ Hawk
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Pat McAfee
Beautiful people. And welcome to our humble abode, the Thunderdome. On this, the Most thrilling Tuesday, May 19, 2026. This sports program begins now. Sports are the greatest. And listen, whenever you hear the words game and seven put together, you expect electricity in the NHL delivered last night in a huge way as the Canadiens of Montreal punch their ticket to the Eastern Conference finals to take on the Carolina Hurricanes as they beat the Buffalo Sabr in Buffalo. Now, listen, there was certainly a fight back, okay? This was once 2, 0 game, then a fight back. Then this thing gets to overtime. And that blip, a little bit of a kind of becomes the game winner. The series seeker Newhof becomes the second player in NHL history to have Game 7 goals to win a series in the same playoff run in the history of the NHL. Malt Riyal the Buzzsaw is going to be on display in the Eastern Conference finals against a team that everybody forgets they're even playing because they haven't lost the damn game in the playoffs.
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Jack Hughes
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Carolina Hurricanes have been chilling, resting up, getting ready for it. They'll take on Montreal. And then tomorrow night in the west, the Colorado Avalanche will host the Vegas Golden Knights. Whenever you think of a game seven, that is exactly what you think of. Whenever you think of playoff hockey, that is exactly what you think of. And this one is about to be an absolute wagon. We'll talk to P.K. suban, Montreal Homer. Yeah. Yeah, he's probably real jacked about what happened. Super. Can't wait to catch up with him. He'll be at 12:35. Also, Jack Hughes. Jack Hughes will be here today. 145. Obviously, Olympic gold medalist, American hero, New Jersey devil jock Hughes of the Hughes hockey family, obviously, American legends will join us at 145. We also obviously have to talk about the double overtime game of the Goliaths yesterday in the Western Conference finals to kick off what the NBA has been having building for seemingly years now. This Wemby guy, all right, hey, we're learning more and more about him. This guy hangs with Monks. This guy hangs with Kevin Garnett. This guy pulls up from the logo in overtime. Down three.
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P.K. Subban
Casual.
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Pat McAfee
First one he put up all night. No big deal. Biggest moment. Let me go ahead and splash this thing. I'm taller than you, I can shoot better than you. And oh, yeah, you get me into paint, I can go to absolute work. Now, what I think gets underestimated about this particular alien here. This human is. You know, he plays chess in the city. Okay. And when he gives answers, he's One with the universe. He's a part of this new generation that seeming, you know, a lot of Jersey share and everybody kind of gets along. I think what people. This guy's a killer. This guy is a stone cold killer that needs the elbow to the jaw. Should have been a big warning for everybody about who he is. I think we're just kind of learning about this particular player. I think we're excited about the possibilities of this guy and what he could become in the NBA. They're already talking about, like, oh, well, here it is. This is the. We had, obviously, the runs of the past. And it gets Jordan and LeBron comes. Shout out to LeBron. And then now Wemby is here. He's about to carry this entire thing. Hasn't won yet, but, boy, last night looked like something special from the future. What he is is taller, tougher, more dynamic, and also petty. He hates that guy that looks a lot like him, but he's the Caucasian version. Chad Holmgren is a guy that I don't think this Wemby guy really enjoys at all. So it seems like you think about who he is as a competitor. All the elites, you know, you think about the elite athletes at the top of the board. All of them psychos. Competitive spirit psychos, okay? That's the re. That's why they're. That's why they lift all them weights. That's. They wake up so early. That's why they watch so much. That's why everything is being finely tuned. Because they are psycho competitive athletes that drive them to be the best. We know who they are. You start going around the sports, you know exactly who we're talking about. It started being classified as the Mamba mentality. And I think Kobe is certainly one of those people. Michael Jordan, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Serena Williams, Tiger woods, you go at the top. They're psychos. Wayne Gretzky, these psychos, they are committing everything in their being to being great. And they will stop at nothing to win. It feels like people don't think Wemby's like that because he's French.
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AQ Shipley
Sure.
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Pat McAfee
I think that certainly is a part
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Ty Schmidt
big part of it.
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Pat McAfee
That is a big part of it. But whenever you start lining up what last night was, Chet Holmgren, that's going back to Team USA taking on Team France. I guess there were some clips coming out of Wemby when he was 17 years old, watching Chet get the trophy and him being bummed out in there. SGA wins the MVP over him. This guy's the best defensive player on the planet, unanimous vote. And also on the offensive side is able to do it. Is he the most valuable person to his team? I think he would be able to argue that SGA wins back to back. SGA also very good. But Wemby having to watch SGA get his trophy. Watch also Chet Holmkins on the other side and they got a banner hanging up there and they're six and a half point dogs. It felt like that was the checklist for Wemby to go ahead and have a huge night. And he did. He's exactly, I think what we hope he is. I think this is a great thing for hoops. But last night in general, double overtime, absolutely bonkers show. Caruso's going crazy. Coaching's at a high level. It was spectacular. Nine year NFL vet Darius J. Butler is here. This is what Adam Silver would go into a lab and try to create if you could. Especially with all the hype coming in. Hey, these are the two teams. We've been talking about this since before the playoffs even. It's like, is it going to be the Alien or is it going to be this Oklahoma City team that is seemingly in the middle of a dynasty run right now? And they are incredibly deep. Then we finally get to it in game one. Okay, we got game seven vibes in game one. We go double overtime and we got their superstars playing. I mean it was. That was a wet dream, I assume for Adam Silver in the NBA last. I assume that is how they went to bed feeling last year.
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Darius Butler
Yeah. Rarely does a matchup really live up to the Xbox expectations. And just watching that game, probably when I say late fourth quarter, I'm like, this is one of the best basketball games I've ever watched. And it was probably five, six more moments that kind of had you jumping up off the couch after that from both sides. You know, okc. Every time you thought, you know, the spurs would kind of take full control of the game. Okc fought back. Caruso hit it 3j will hit it through. Who was huge in his return to the Thunder in a little over 30 minutes. But he was dominant. Caruso, he was unbelievable. I know Wimby dominated by him taking on that task. Now look, you do have to look at the big Caucasian. That's the alien on your team. Like, hey, how about you guard the other alien on their team? So got some questions about that. But he's.
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Pat McAfee
That is fascinating. Caruso. Wemby. A couple times.
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Ty Schmidt
Quite a bit.
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Con Man
Quite a bit interesting.
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Pat McAfee
Okay.
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Darius Butler
Caruso and he.
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Iman Shumpert
And he.
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Darius Butler
He did. I Mean, he did the best he could do. He held it down. Caruso looked like he was worth $250 million to Thunder last night. He was unbelievable. But yeah, Wimby, he, he, he's the guy and he's the guy who has that goat potential. You talk about the, the creams of the past. You talk about Jordan, you talk about LeBron. Like Wimy has had these expectations. Like you said, he hasn't won it yet. This is a Western Conference finals. But that performance was unbelievable. He only had what, three blocks. But it seems like his just his impact when he's on the court and they put the stats up when he's on the court. It's unbelievable. I remember SGA late in the fourth quarter. He had like a little bunny, wide open floater. Women didn't even jump. I think he was on the other side of the paint. You can just see he wasn't really comfortable just because he's on the court. That's the impact that he has on both sides of the court. It's unbelievable. I can't wait to see the rest of this series and what it has for us.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, and you talk about high level basketball, I mean there was some genius stuff going. It felt like it was, hey, we got some real cooking going on on both sides. High level basketball. Cannot wait to catch up with Chris Paul about it. But whenever you think about Wemby going in there and delivering in that way, it's like this guy's going to be must watch. He understands the moment, you know, very obvious. He understands we saw in the Olympics a little bit whenever he was on France, in France taking on Team usa obviously you see it as him going in there, understanding the moment and feeding off of all of it. Yeah, like I like that's old school pettiness that I think you need.
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Darius Butler
I played 48 minutes too. So like during the season he averaged 30 minutes. So that was one of my concerns. Okay. Now you get to the playoffs and now you're going to have games, you're going to have battles. Especially we all saw this Thunder matchup coming. You're going to have to play 40 plus minutes a night. So for him to grind it out, double overtime and be dominant throughout, that was unbelievable.
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Pat McAfee
Let's go to one half of the hammer died. Cowboys AP Thomas.
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Bruce
Yeah, Wembley is obviously unbelievable, but also Harper and Castle. All three of them, the first threesome, I believe 22 were under to have. All three of them had a double. Double. The lights were not too bright for these guys. They are so young, and they were just. They didn't give a shit about any of it.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Talking about how young they are, there it is. I think their average age is like 22 as a whole. So whenever you talk about a young team finding their own and growing into who they want to become, it's happening now. This is where basketball players and teams become legendary. The playoffs. That is why some of these players that don't get a lot of playoff minutes really kind of go into obscurity because you're not really known. The playoffs is its own season. Teams become stories. Legends are made during the playoffs. This is when the big moments happen. And Wemby had all the hype and the folklore going into this. And this team Young is just going to be able to go ahead and build. All of them showed up and how young they are just tells us, well, we got electrifying basketball for the next 20 years. Let's go to the talks table at boss, Connor and Ty Schmidt. Connor, con man. Wemby's a dream. And you are quickly. Oh, yeah, I think you are quickly becoming. This guy might actually never lose again. Which should be a conversation and all. Is that too much in the moment? Are we overreacting right now, con man?
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Con Man
I don't know. Because when we're talking about the moment, like you mentioned it, you know, Bryce Harper kind of brought it up to us, kind of owning the moment. I don't know if we've ever seen a guy his age own the moment on a basketball court the way he did yesterday. The step in three right here was one of the most, like, ridiculous shots I think I've ever seen. And this guy's 22. Like, we're talking about someone who. Sure, if he was five years into his career, maybe this wasn't his first conference finals, that would be one thing. But it's his first conference final. It's his first game in the conference finals. And he does that on, you know, MVP night. You mentioned it like, he really is just a freak. And it might be the greatest young core in the history of the NBA. Like, there's a reason the NBA lottery is now set up where you can't have a back to back to back draft with Wemby to Castle to Harper, because that is what they built. And Devin Vassell's on there. I think he led the team in minutes. He blocked Chad Holmgren at the rim in double overtime. Yeah, late. And that basically sealed the deal. But I. To be Honest, if I'm LeBron James, I'm real worried Wemby's gonna win a title.
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Pat McAfee
I'm real worried. He's 41.
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AQ Shipley
He is 41.
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Con Man
And I'm real worried that when we gets a title at 22, and then all of a sudden, this guy only needs four more and he's passing me already. Honestly, if I'm LeBron in my head,
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Pat McAfee
I'm going, why you got brought. I got to get to San Antonio.
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Con Man
I'm going to San Antonio now to go play with this guy. Because why wouldn't you? If. If you're watching this, how could you not want to be a part of it? Like, sure. Debo mentioned he had three blocks. Watching SGA in the first half, trying to figure out how to play with Wemby on the court was interesting. I forget how many points he had at half, but it wasn't many. It wasn't mvp, you know, sga and just seeing what Wemby does as a presence. Like, Caruso had 30 points, and it felt like that's more. So why they had him playing defense on Wemby, because what Caruso could do on offense with him on the court, but it was ridiculous to watch. That was the best basketball game.
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Pat McAfee
I'm just kind of piecing this together now, and I don't like that. My brain just did that. But huge night for French speaking people.
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Con Man
Sure.
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Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. I mean, it was a huge.
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Ty Schmidt
He also speaks English, though, and his English is very good. No.
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Pat McAfee
And obviously, people in Montreal speak English somewhere, I assume there. But last night was a lot of messy, wasn't it?
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Ty Schmidt
No, it wasn't. But, you know, we can give that. We can give them that.
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Pat McAfee
We don't really get that in sports much, do we?
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Ty Schmidt
No.
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Pat McAfee
Since, like, Zizu and Thierry were playing for the French soccer team, I don't think there's a lot of, like, hey, French speaking people are really crushing sports right now.
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Ty Schmidt
No, definitely not. And I mean, it's kind of just the Canadiens. And then when you have a guy like Wemby come out of nowhere and, you know, maybe he was thinking that too. He's like. And I. I didn't see it. We didn't see much of his postgame media stuff, but maybe. May. Maybe he did give his entire, you know, postgame media script. Maybe he did in French. I may. I may have missed that. I don't know.
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Pat McAfee
Well, I don't know if you saw the graphic that we put together for. We try to.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah. I mean,
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Pat McAfee
What's the other half of that? What's the other half of it, though. A labu, I think is. And that's a goal or something like that. There's a whole nother habitant. No, lays habitants is obviously the have. Okay. That is. There's another part, though. There's another half of this sentence. Okay. You're dancing around it, Bruce, we sent it into the group. Can you grab that, please? The Canadian. The French speaking thing in the group text there, it's a full saying. And I'll tell you what.
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Ty Schmidt
Pretty good.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah. I would say the French language sounds pretty spectacular whenever it's read, but yeah. The Abatons last night have a huge win. Montreal upside down, that city's going to be on display, I think here now even more so than anything. And I know this happens in college a lot, which leads us to the next story we're going to chat about, like, sports put cities and towns on a map. Okay. It's. It's broadcasting. It is commercial for your city. It is how a lot of people will think about what your city is forever through the lens of sports. Like, that is kind of what happens, what they're about to do. I think over these Eastern Conference finals and hell, Carolina Hurricanes have literally been unbeatable. I think with the Montreal people, the Les Habaton or whatever the hell, I think they are going to showcase how good of a sports town and they are. And I think it is going to be a great. I mean, they are going bananas.
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Bruce
That city doesn't sleep.
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Iman Shumpert
I love.
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Bruce
I've been to Montreal two times.
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Pat McAfee
It is insane. That was not where the game was. No, that's just a watch along. That's a watch along that's happening. So, like, I'm pretty. The thing I'm jacked up about here is that I think a lot of people are going to get welcomed and kind of introduced to hockey culture. But, like, their hockey culture is bananas. And there's a lot of other Canadian teams, I think, that are not going to be excited how much their barn's getting celebrated because they feel like their barn is probably a little bit more electrifying. But I think we got some great environments, great atmospheres going forward. Oklahoma City, last night was awesome.
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Con Man
Yeah, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
San Antonio is going to be outrageous. Madison Square Garden, we already know enough. I mean, let's go ahead and go crazy here for the Cavs, too. Cleveland's going to show up in a big way.
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Bruce
Is Dan Gilbert busing people to msg?
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Pat McAfee
See, I love that, too. I like it. Whenever an owner is busing what, 25 buses up 25 buses. Great move by him. Yeah, that's like college, high school. I love that. I. I enjoy anytime that happens.
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Darius Butler
It's culture.
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Pat McAfee
How are they able to get that many?
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Bruce
Yeah, that's a good question.
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Pat McAfee
That's a good question. And he got good seats. Like they weren't in the nosebleeds. He got good seats for every single one in there.
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Con Man
And they were the only ones either. 10 minutes left in the game.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, a lot of Montreal fans in Buffalo last night, there was a big pop whenever they scored early. A couple times there was. Hey, that was very loud. I'm like, oh, hold the phone. How about the whistle gate going on there, huh?
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Con Man
Interesting.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, you could say that.
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Con Man
That's game seven puck. It feels like there's always going to be some sort of.
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Pat McAfee
When you're running the goalie all night, it kind of happens, you know, they.
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Chris Paul
They took the goalie out before they buy it.
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Pat McAfee
So again,
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Chris Paul
No free hacks on the goalie.
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Con Man
Do you have any inside info regarding this play or.
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Pat McAfee
No inside info on this particular. Clear. You can hear the whistle.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
You know, I was potentially listening to the other game.
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Con Man
Sure.
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Pat McAfee
Because Tariko's on a microphone over here. Not that I don't love McDonough. I do love McDonough. With the way the games are kind of timed up, I was trying to bounce back and forth. The audio, it felt like March Madness last.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, a little bit.
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Pat McAfee
It felt like March madness on the TVs there. So I didn't hear the whistle as clearly, I think, as you can certainly hear. But boy, the Buffalo Sabres fans, the Buffalo people. Just another heartbreak in Buffalo and we want to let them know, hey, hell of a run though. It always is.
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Pete Thamel
Again.
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Pat McAfee
What's that?
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Darius Butler
Tired of their hand clap? They're tired of being told, hell of a run, Buffalo fans. You're a fan of the Bills, the
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Con Man
Sabres, like they'll pout till the Cows come home. Don't worry, they'll be fine.
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Pat McAfee
Come on.
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Con Man
They will, they will. They always do. We should probably look at the numbers that Alex to cat since Josh Allen wore his jersey debate in the drum in game two of the first round.
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Pat McAfee
I don't want to pile on.
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Con Man
I don't.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, then why don't want to do then? Because that's what you're doing right now.
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Con Man
I just would like to look at the numbers. Hembo, if you hear this, do that, please.
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Pat McAfee
You don't want to pile on.
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Con Man
I don't want to pile on.
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Pat McAfee
Of course you don't.
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Con Man
And you know Josh Allen's a hell of a football.
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Pat McAfee
Great football player, but boy, oh, boy,
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Con Man
it really took a turn.
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Pat McAfee
Buffalo last four playoff eliminations this year. My real game seven overtime. Game seven.
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Ty Schmidt
They're used to it at this point.
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Pat McAfee
No, they can't.
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Ty Schmidt
Kind of just plus the four balls.
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Pat McAfee
I mean, jeez, NHL won't change a rule for him either.
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Con Man
Why can't we wear our jerseys?
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Pat McAfee
Okay, all right.
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Bruce
We wanted that rule change too. Those stupid yellow jerseys.
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Pat McAfee
Well, not only the overtime rule is what he's talking about. I think so. They. They could have answered there. Patrick Mahomes, I think.
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Bruce
Oh, well, that one.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah.
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Con Man
Yeah, they did.
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Darius Butler
They.
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Pat McAfee
They changed it. Well, that's what I'm saying though. He said he doesn't think they're going to do in the NHL, but. Oh, I think what they're saying is they overturned a whistle, didn't they, in Buffalo. If I was talking about them. Hey, Buffalo fans, chin up, okay?
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Bruce
Chin up.
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Darius Butler
Yeah, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
You don't want to say. Sounds like danhausen maybe needs.
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Darius Butler
Mr. Butters even told us, hey, the two ones keep.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, you're right.
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Darius Butler
So we got a whistle.
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Ty Schmidt
Screw the Buffalo Bill.
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Con Man
Keep them up laughing.
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Pat McAfee
Before we move to the NBA with a man who knows a lot more than we do about the NBA, I did get a chance to break some news in the NHL.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah?
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Pat McAfee
What did I put on? An insider cap potentially breaking. According to source says the Vegas Golden Knights in person appeal of the missing media obligations case stemming from Game 6 of the Anaheim Duck series was heard in New York this morning by NHL commissioner Gary Bettman. Source says close to the situation. According to saying Vegas appeal was heard in person this morning. The penalties currently stand as originally assessed $100,000 fine torts second round pick yanked out of the organization. So Gary Bettman, commissioner heard the defense understood the situation and said, listen, we can't start a precedent here. This can't be the case. Torts probably understood as a man who used to be in the media, I mean, we heard EJ yesterday, 18 year ending NHL vet saying as a player, I want to get home there. You know, I understand. But now in the media, it's like, hey, we're trying to, you know, do a thing. Ty feels like you're a little bit upset about the inside breaking news that I had. As soon as I started putting pen to paper, if you will thumb to phone to put this out, you started shrugging and on. Yeah. What's going on over. This is. This is life of insider, by the way. I don't Know if I like you huffing and puffing in my news, I'm
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Ty Schmidt
not mad at you, pal.
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Chris Paul
Okay?
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Ty Schmidt
You didn't make the decision. I'm just. I'm just wondering. Yeah, I'm not shooting the messenger. I'm just wondering if the.
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Pat McAfee
You're huffing and puffing at the message
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Ty Schmidt
at the league itself, if they maybe have it out for, you know, torts and the boys. This is. We already heard that. Listen, they had restrictions, okay? That bird had to get in the air. Otherwise the boys were gonna have to stay in Anaheim an extra night. You think Torch is putting up with that? No. So you know what I want Torch to do from here on out? Every single, you know, post game, media scrum, every question. That's a stupid question. Next. And he's gonna do it. You think. You think the Torch is above doing that? I don't think so. They have no idea what kind of monster they created. He'll eat that 100. That's a couple, you know, age bottles of Bordeaux that he's not going to be able to have this offseason. And we're going to move right along. And that second round pick don't need that either. Okay. This is, though, pure poppycock. Feels like a witch hunt. Not the kind of mojo you want going in to the Western Conference finals.
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Darius Butler
Second round.
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Pat McAfee
That's a big pick, especially for the Vegas Golden Knights. You got a lot of high end players. You're going to.
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Ty Schmidt
Bill Foley will figure it out. He'll figure it out.
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Pat McAfee
Get the.
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Bruce
Fine. But second round pick.
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Pat McAfee
Jeez. Poppycock.
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Ty Schmidt
Yeah, pure poppycock. It's bullshit.
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Pat McAfee
This insider game is crazy.
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Con Man
Yeah, Careful. That's gonna be. That's gonna happen.
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Pat McAfee
It sounds like he's thinking it's gonna happen a lot against the Vegas team because you're saying they're out to get him.
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Con Man
No more Penn's logo. I don't see it anymore. All I see is a freaking shield to do.
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Pat McAfee
That's NHL on it. Listen, if I'm gonna become an NHL insider, just know sometimes I'm gonna have to break your hearts, boys. Okay? That's just life that I'm gonna have to deal with.
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Con Man
As long as you sob for some of our teams.
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Jack Hughes
Okay.
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Con Man
Because I. Because coming out here and just saying.
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Bruce
Are you going to ask me?
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Con Man
This is the situation I am as
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Pat McAfee
an insider, standing directly on business, I'm going to get the news out. That's what I'm trying to do.
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Con Man
Because I don't want to. I don't want to be looking over there and seeing basically just a betment standing on your shoulders constantly just telling
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Pat McAfee
you let him know, Pat, what are you talking about? You think source. I don't want to says he's not.
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AQ Shipley
No, no, no.
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Pat McAfee
You think he would want to be the source on this one? As saying, like, originally assessed? No, he wouldn't want to have that. Now, have we maybe infiltrated some other offices around Maybe. Maybe we have that insider game holding their water. Not. I'm breaking their water. Whose water did I break? It might be holding their water. Okay. You should hear what I'm. I got cooking right now. I got some lines in the water.
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Jack Hughes
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
All right. And it's gonna be big.
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Bruce
Good luck.
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Pat McAfee
It's gonna be big. I'm working it, McDavid. The Hockey Town
- [21:06]
Bruce
would be soft.
- [21:07]
Con Man
Yeah.
- [21:08]
Pat McAfee
Let's pivot away from the NHL. Obviously. We're breaking big news. That's crazy to be in the game already. Look. Look what just happened. No, I know exactly.
- [21:14]
Darius Butler
Scary games I'm still dealing with.
- [21:16]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [21:17]
Pat McAfee
Sean's got a little fallout.
- [21:18]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [21:18]
Pat McAfee
Did we get to hear Wemby talk after the game? There was no post.
- [21:21]
Ty Schmidt
Nope. You had to go to, like, French local media to find that you can't
- [21:25]
Pat McAfee
understand what's going on. I hope everything's all right over here. Me, too. Ladies and gentlemen, joining us now from the world of the NBA, a man who played a hundred years in the NBA. 22 years in the NBA. Holy.
- [21:40]
Ty Schmidt
Long time.
- [21:41]
Pat McAfee
18 years. Eric Johnson, 22 years in the NBA. Ladies and gentlemen, obsolete stallion Chris Paul.
- [21:46]
AQ Shipley
Yes, he is.
- [21:49]
Pat McAfee
How you doing, Chris?
- [21:50]
Chris Paul
What up, fellas? It's 21, Pat. 21 and.
- [21:53]
Pat McAfee
But I was always hoping for that next one, though, you know, because that was my favorite Chris Paul year. The next year. That's how good he was going to be.
- [21:59]
Con Man
Are you announcing something?
- [22:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [22:00]
Chris Paul
Not mine.
- [22:02]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Yeah, you're done. I forgot about that. But you know what? There is another Chris Paul coming. Hey, SportsCenter next. Put up a little highlight. I guess your kid went crazy this past weekend. Is that accurate? And swagu's boy is gonna be number one overall then.
- [22:16]
P.K. Subban
Hold on.
- [22:17]
Pat McAfee
Rondo's kid, right? Yeah, he's in eighth grade. Rondo's kid's in eighth grade. How old is your boy? And at what point did you know that he was gonna be phenomenal at basketball? And is it just kind of have to happen with you guys like Rondo? I think because he's point guard, basketball IQ going to be crazy for you. Same thing with your kid. How do you kind of judge, like, forcing him to play versus wanting to play versus, you know, all that type of shit. Chris, that has to be difficult.
- [22:42]
Chris Paul
He's a sophomore. He's sort of just going through his process. I think the coolest thing about being out on the circuit, especially with the eybl, is getting to see all these different kids, right? All the different kids and guys who I played against. Rondo's son, Pierre, super duper nice. All these kids. It's a gang of kids that aren't former players kids or whatnot. But it's cool to get a chance to be there and see their process.
- [23:08]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, you've talked about these tournaments being filthy. This is AAU stuff here. As somebody that didn't grow up in the basketball world, this is what AAU tournaments are. And how many of these are there?
- [23:17]
Chris Paul
Yeah. So in the eybl, you have four stops. This was Memphis this past weekend, and Kansas City is next weekend. Then we have a Vegas stop. And then you have Peach Jam, which is the biggest basketball, like, growth, I mean, youth basketball tournament there is. Right. Augusta is known for the Masters and the Peach Jam.
- [23:40]
Pat McAfee
Peach Jam's in Augusta, Georgia.
- [23:42]
Chris Paul
In Augusta, Georgia. You should pull up. Kids would love to see you down there, Pat.
- [23:46]
Pat McAfee
Oh, absolutely. Speaking of pulling up, I mean, they're gonna have to see that, too. Is it a 10ft? I don't know. You tell me.
- [23:53]
Chris Paul
The elbow might be in just a little bit too far. I don't know where that ball going in a hoop.
- [23:58]
Pat McAfee
Just wherever. Just if you need to get eyes on my ball, look for the hoop. That's where it's headed to, Chris. Okay? You know what I mean? Speaking of elbow, that shout to your kid, by the way. And you, I know you put a lot of emphasis into that and a lot of time and effort and your finances into it to hopefully pass the baton to another generation of great Hoopers. Let's talk about the next generation, ladies and gentlemen. We've been debuting CP's top three, which has been something that after we talk to him, we get a chance to kind of our takeaway of his big takes. His big take last night, I think one of them was, hey, Wemby. Stepping in there and shooting that in overtime. Down 3, 20, 30 seconds left or whatever in the biggest moment is something that I think you said you would have expected. Maybe it's all the other shit that maybe is the thing that he had to work on. Always been a great shooter. I think people forget that. And this is just a moment to showcase that. What's your takeaway of how Wemby performed last night in this moment in particular?
- [24:54]
Chris Paul
Man, it was just fun to watch, tell you the truth, and to know him in the situation, in the moment. Vic is a great shooter. Last year he shot a lot of threes. A lot of threes. But now you just get a chance to see the evolution of his game. He goes inside out, the way he plays, and that's just trust. First of all, he kicked it ahead to Steph Castle. Steph kicked it back to him. And Vic likes those moments.
- [25:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Okay, so when he passes that back, he thinks he's shooting that right there.
- [25:22]
Chris Paul
Absolutely. Oh, you didn't even think about it.
- [25:25]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so everybody on the floor knew that Wemby was pulling that up right there. You think?
- [25:30]
Chris Paul
Yes, yes. Especially for the spurs, everybody knew he was shooting it.
- [25:34]
Pat McAfee
Oh, that is awesome. Okay. To have that fortitude. I will say, I think a lot of people in this generation quickly judge, especially somebody when one of their first interviews, we hear from him saying, universe and I, we kind of see things the same way. And he's. He's out there with monks and he's. I don't like it. Big night for French speaking folks, I will say. But he's also French. So I think there is a natural thing that kind of comes alongside of that. Hoopers and the way basketball is kind of evolving. I think a lot of people can kind of get lost and not really know that this guy's a certified killer. Right. Always been that way. Chris is that kind of the thing that separates him as opposed to just being a 7 foot 5, incredibly athletic guy in between the years? This guy is a monster. Right. I think that's what we need to talk about.
- [26:15]
Chris Paul
Yeah. Yeah. He works at it. So the things that he's one of those guys that if you tell him he's not that good at something, he's going to go put the work in on it and get better at it. So if that was his physicality. Right. Because obviously you come into the league, everybody talked about how light he was and people sort of push him here and there. But he's 7 5. He got a lot stronger. Right. He used to play with his back to the basket a lot, and he still does. But this play right here that they keep showing was so dope. And all I could think about was Greg Popovich when I first got to San Antonio last year. And Pop would just always be on Vick about facing up, facing up, facing up first triple threat. Right. And you see how the game is just evolved and it just comes so easy to him now.
- [27:02]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So he's a hard worker. Do you think watching SGA get the trophy last night was obviously something that he thought about? Maybe the check. The Chet story was seemingly something that was brewing online. And then they were showing throwback clips in the algo. The algo was showing me a 17 year old WEMBY taking on, I don't know, maybe a 17 year old Chet Holmgren as well. If these two have been looking each other in the eye since their kids, it seems like that is actually the case. How much of that do you think fed into what last night was? And I want to let you know, if you get a chance to chat with him, let him know that I think I respect how big of a, like a petty, competitive dog he is that I knew last night he was going to go absolutely crazy. And I bet on it and I want a lot of money. And a crown is seemingly starting to come my way. Yeah, the crown is seemingly. I'm starting to crown. I'm sorry, Ronda Rousey. No problem. I think this is what I'm gonna start doing. I'm betting on dogs only. Okay. I need to know that they're absolute dogs. That felt like a moment for him to like, hey, yeah, right. This, this lot of buildup. It felt like for Wemby obviously to materialize all that and to execute is one thing, but I think that fed him. Isn't that kind of like his competitive fire personality trait that I don't think that we're all kind of learning about in real time?
- [28:13]
Chris Paul
Yeah, I think so. It was a. It was a cool interview that Vic did earlier in the season and he was talking about how he shows his emotions. Like he don't want to carry the burden of having to show his emotions. I think he does a great job of that. He just, he's hooping, he's having fun and he's going to tell you. He's sort of going to show you, obviously anybody who love this game because you see some teams when there's an MVP ceremony, some teams go to the locker room. Some teams are not out there when it happens because they don't want to be a part of it. But Vic, somebody tell you he. I saw the video like everybody else. He didn't look or whatnot. But of course he understands the moment. And he's somebody that's always finding little things to push him.
- [28:55]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I'm excited he's going to play for what, another 20 we look this up. Okay, we look this up as people that are kind of outsiders of the NBA world. Feels like all the goat conversations that happened, like, you played 20, 21 years, you thought you had 22, but just basic ass. 21 years.
- [29:14]
Chris Paul
21 might be up for question two, but that's neither here nor there.
- [29:17]
Pat McAfee
All right, so we'll say how many good. How many would you like to. How many meaty years would you.
- [29:22]
Chris Paul
I'm at 20. 21, man.
- [29:24]
Darius Butler
We good?
- [29:24]
Pat McAfee
All right. 20. 20. 20. Real. 21. Ethical. I'm not doing that. I'm not getting into that. But obviously that is a real thing in basketball. It feels like you have to play a very long time. You have to give a long time to league. You have to be great for a very long time. Him at 7 foot 5, it's hard to imagine that size of a body being able to. I think Jordan was like 15 years, two of them at Washington, 13. He was by far the least. I mean, LeBron, you go through them all. Kareem, they all played forever. Like, everybody, like, kind of plays forever. That's a part of the hooping lore, I think, during the conversation. 7 foot 5, he works on everything. I think that's going to be a marvel if he's able to maintain, actually, just. Just from what we understand about humans. Haven't seen it ever. It's like, that would be a crazy thing if he was able to last long, which it seems like all the goats of basketball are able to do. Chris, that would just be a crazy thing for us to watch.
- [30:20]
Chris Paul
I'm honestly not worried about Vic lasting. Right. Playing for a long time in the league because his preparation, the way he works, the way he trains, all the little details, he's that competitive. Like I told, like when I got there, whether it's ping pong, whether it's chess, whether it's just shooting games after practice, and he's like a student of the game. Like, he watches everything constantly. And it's kind of crazy to see it all come together because I remember I went to go watch him play before he came to the NBA and he was 7 foot 5, wing player. And he just keeps learning things throughout the years. And if you watch down the stretch of that game, the lives that Vic caught when Caruso was guarding him, those are plays that he didn't used to do. He was just always on the perimeter. But now he realized that he can score in so many different ways.
- [31:15]
Pat McAfee
So hopefully he only gets better somehow. We're lucky to be a part of this, however long this run is. Mr. Vic Wemby. Do you call him Vic? We all call him Wemby. I think we'll stick with Wemby if we meet him. Bonjour, Vic. Je m' appelle Pat, you know, fantastique. We'll certainly do that. But it is crazy that he's already being talked about as this is the, hey, this is the next generation of the NBA. It's a lot of weight. I feel like he's ready for the world of it. But he's playing against a guy who's already a back to back mvp. It's very abnormal. Go ahead, D bud.
- [31:44]
Darius Butler
Yeah, Chris. And I'm assuming this is one of your three as well. But SGA struggled in the first half, struggled down the stretch to really get going like we used to, to see him get going. Had 12 assists, only four turnovers. So I feel like he was pretty efficient there. What type of adjustments do you think SGL make, you know, going in the next game?
- [32:00]
Chris Paul
Man, I, I think one of the things that we talked about too, Pat, was just the coaching. Like both teams are coaching really well. Obviously shade struggle or whatnot to score, but they've been here, they battle tested, they won a championship. They lost last year to Denver. I think game one. So they'll go watch film and regroup. But Shay seeing a double team every time he come down the court, he gonna see that every single game. You know, they loading up, they trying to make the other guys make shots. That is Caruso having 30 or something like that. But you're gonna try to figure it out.
- [32:36]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so this was what we talked about with the Lakers too, right? JJ Redick was like being not dramatic. You didn't say dramatic, but like overdoing it maybe or something like that. He was not going to let the game wrecker wreck the game. We have that in football as well. That is just kind of standard operating procedure amongst most winning organizations. Like, hey, we got to try to make them play left handed. We got to get rid of their best player. SGA is obviously back to back MVP because he has been relatively successful against everybody. Was it like 20 straight years of at least 20 points or whatever? How come it's different with some teams? Is it the Wemby factor that you know? Because they have had success against Oklahoma City all year and has SGA gotten the same treatment from every team? Like how do you think he. And follow up another one if you want to explain this situation. Are they picking and choosing who's open whenever they bring somebody because that kind of happens in football. We got to rob Peter to pay Paul somewhere. So somebody like, how do they, how do you think that all comes together with SGA being able to respond? And what do they do in the next game? You think to Oklahoma City.
- [33:38]
Chris Paul
All right. Bet you asked about six questions right there.
- [33:42]
Pat McAfee
Give the fucking answer, Chris. All right, you're the fucking guy. 21 years, 21 years, years of experience. Go ahead.
- [33:48]
Chris Paul
Okay, so in the NBA we have hot guys and cold guys, right? So hot guys, you actually don't help off of them as much. Cold guys, you full body help. But out here in this game, no, no disrespect to a lot of these coaches in the league, but a lot of these coaches want to see how the game starts and then they let the main guy get 20, 25 points. Then they'd be like, okay, we're going to get the ball out of his hand. Hands, right? Like the elite teams and the really great coaches, as you can see, maybe like, no, we're just not even gonna let this guy get going. So when Shay comes down the court, if you watch, look at the wall that they're building every single time down, every single time down, their whole mindset is to not look, look, they load, they loaded up, they loaded up. They just trying to make them see a wall shade and seeing every coverage you could possibly see. But look at, look at where Vicki is right there. Look at that. That's hard, that's hard to play against. But like I said, he's seen it before and it's up to your teammates to make shots.
- [34:44]
Pat McAfee
Okay. And we had the other guys stat against the Lakers, the other guys on the Thunder went crazy. So obviously they were able to win while Shay was still getting double teamed or eliminated or whatever. And I think against the spurs on Christmas, I think Caruso did not have a great shooting day. And then last night has a phenomenal shooting night and it's like, hold the phone now. Now will they continue to leave Caruso open? Because it feels like they do decide like SGA has to find the open person, right? That is what he's doing. Caruso had a lot of good looks and I think SGA had to make that decision in real time. Does he know who they're going to let free? How does he know just from playing or is there like an indication that this is how they're going to play the entire game? We in the NFL have a first 15 where coaches are trying to get see how they'll line up against different formations that they want to use. Okay. So first 15 want to be successful, but we want to see what the defense is doing against our. And then we're going to make adjustments to that after that. It's like a. A known thing in football. Same thing happening for SGA here whenever he takes on the spurs at the beginning of the game or. How do you guys figure that all out?
- [35:50]
Chris Paul
Well, you figure it out because it's usually pretty consistent throughout the season. The guys who shoot it better than others, and there's guys that don't. Right. So probably most games, depending on who's on the court. Like, if Jared McCain's on the court in Caruso, they. They're definitely going to leave Caruso open more than Jerick McCain. So you're trying to figure that out on the fly as you go, but it's like clockwork. For sure. He knows he's going to see all these extra bodies when he get into the paint. And you just got to try to make the right decision. And then you also got to figure out when to be just a little bit more selfish on some plays.
- [36:26]
Pat McAfee
Okay. That's whenever he just decides to take care of. He did a couple times. Took it to the rack and how long he held onto it it before letting it touch the backboard. Cuz Wemby is like right behind him. You can just like, feel him, like, get that, get that, get that, get they dunk.
- [36:39]
Chris Paul
Shay dunk one last night he went. He drove the lane and dunked. And he'll never dunk, but that's cuz he knew that Vic was over there. That Vic might. Yeah, that one right there. He'll never dunk, but he had to, cuz Vic was right there.
- [36:50]
Pat McAfee
I'm not going to let this ball even come close to getting volleyballed out of here, which he was certainly doing exactly. The. The Wemby dunk in between Chet and sga. First of all, shout out to sga going up. I mean, he's up there. Those are two. Yeah, those are two aliens. Great tweet right up there. I mean, that was.
- [37:09]
Chris Paul
Yeah, he ain't doing nothing up there.
- [37:15]
Pat McAfee
All right. Your last one that we thought had to be obviously mentioned that you were talking about. You already mentioned it. Kind of the coaching master class. Can you tell me about this a little bit about what we watch? I love the game. Looked like both teams were making adjustments. Both teams were answering and responding. Obviously the players do their thing. The coaching, though, I think a lot of us maybe just thought it was Good. Didn't really understand why it was good. Why was last night such a high level of basketball, you think? Chris?
- [37:40]
Chris Paul
First of all, the way these two teams play, it's just the coaching that gives them the confidence to play free like a kid. Like Dylan Harper. You don't come in as a rookie and make those different type plays if you're not being coached and motivated to. To just go play free and not worry about making mistakes. Obviously Mark and OKC has those guys playing like that night in and night out. But playing for San Antonio last year and getting a chance to see the preparation that goes in every single day, right? Like Mike in there with the guys at 8, 9am before practice, going on all the ball movement and all this stuff like that. It's just, it's really dope to see it all come together. I was, I was watching the, the end of game plays that they were running the out of bounds play right here. So if you watch Steph Castle, this is the funnest part for me in, in basketball and art is to watch the plays and the execution. So Steph Castle screens and then he comes over here to Devon V. And this is a slip out, right? He going, he's going like he's getting champ and he slips out. He's wide open, right? But it's also great coaching by OKC because they got Chet on the ball and it's just time. Dylan Harper can't see the basket.
- [38:56]
Pat McAfee
So the inbound couldn't see that he was wide ass open. So he threw it short instead of far side. He throws that far side. That's probably tip in 0.7 seconds. Holy hell. We just ran a design play for this exact moment. Executed won the game.
- [39:08]
Chris Paul
Yeah. And a lot of games come down to these situations and some of the best coaches that I played poor at the end of, at the end of practice. Yeah, look at that. You can't see nothing. Dylan Harper is a tall guard.
- [39:21]
Pat McAfee
So imagine me when I used to
- [39:23]
Chris Paul
have to do this. Oh, yeah, Come on, Coach.
- [39:25]
Pat McAfee
I don't see no, you gotta do a lot of no look. Huh? A lot of no look out of you, I assume where, where.
- [39:32]
Chris Paul
Yeah, you gotta, you gotta pass it with the grace of God. You just better hope.
- [39:38]
Pat McAfee
All right, let's talk about tonight as we hit the top three, your thoughts on the east in how this thing's going to go. The Garden has been a marvel. I mean, just an absolute spectacle. New York feels like it's time for New York to maybe go on a full championship run. And the streets are going to be bananas. And then the Cavaliers. Holy hell. They just went in there and just punked the Pistons. Just punked the Motor City Crew. Is that what. Motor City Sports Crew. Is that what the Miz called you guys up for? Yeah, that's what he said. Okay, how should we be viewing this one? And obviously, obviously, Jalen Brunson, in spite of. Is going to be a phenomenal matchup. Is that what we should be looking for? And, Chris, how do you kind of judge how this series goes?
- [40:19]
Chris Paul
Is OG back? Yes, OG's back. This is going to be a good series. I think the game one will be interesting to see who sets the tone. And I tell you what's crazy is I played in the Western Conference my whole career. I never played for an Eastern Conference team. So to now be out and watch the different games and see sort of the pace of the Western Conference, they said that all the time. Like when. When I was in the league, is that it was sort of the Eastern Conference. You know, they just a little bit more grind the game out.
- [40:53]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You guys are soft out there in the West Coast. Yeah, I understand.
- [40:55]
Chris Paul
You call it what you want to, but. You call it what you want to.
- [40:58]
Pat McAfee
No, I think that's what they. I didn't know they said that until you just said that right now. But if I was a part of that time when people were talking about, I assume what I would have said from Pittsburgh now in Indiana, west coast soft. We know that that's the case. Yeah. It's nice weather out there, though. Great guys. Great guys.
- [41:13]
Chris Paul
I said Western Conference, not the West Coast.
- [41:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but we'll just. Yeah.
- [41:18]
Chris Paul
And I'm sure gonna put everybody in there together, huh?
- [41:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I'm sure everybody's gonna be excited about me doing that. They understand. That's on them. Yeah, that's on. Yeah. We're from the East. That's kind of how we. That is kind of how we operate. You understand that. But you're saying the style of play over there on the East a little bit different, especially with these two teams.
- [41:35]
Chris Paul
Yeah, I think so. It'll be a little bit slower. Slower pace. Jalen has the ball a lot of the times with the Knicks, and obviously Donovan and James. James plays a little bit of a slower game for the most part. So it's going to be interesting to see how this series starts off and how who guards who. Who sets the tone.
- [41:55]
Pat McAfee
All right, we'll be excited for that. We'll catch up with you next time. Your kid beating the Hell out of you in basketball right now. Yeah.
- [42:02]
Chris Paul
No chance.
- [42:03]
Pat McAfee
No, I saw him shooting. I saw him shoot. He's certainly. Especially at 10, at 10th grade. I mean, he's getting. Oh, my God, you're doing a full. You know. You know what I'm saying? How old are you now?
- [42:16]
Chris Paul
41.
- [42:17]
Pat McAfee
Oh, damn. He's definitely. I mean.
- [42:20]
Chris Paul
Oh, he said. He said he's going to be able to beat me when I'm 42.
- [42:24]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Still hasn't come yet, huh?
- [42:26]
Bruce
How tall is he?
- [42:26]
Darius Butler
Clock is ticking you.
- [42:28]
Chris Paul
No, it's not.
- [42:30]
Pat McAfee
How tall is he?
- [42:32]
Chris Paul
Probably about my height now.
- [42:33]
Con Man
Oh, you're screwed.
- [42:34]
Pat McAfee
Oh, no. It's over and it's over. All right, well, good luck out there. Hey, let Lil Chris know. Go on, lad.
- [42:43]
Bruce
Go on.
- [42:43]
Pat McAfee
Go on, lad. Give him buckets. I love the fact that you're never going to let him win either. I mean, it is going to be.
- [42:51]
Chris Paul
No.
- [42:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. No way. Yeah. You're going to foul the hell out of him if gets close, and that's.
- [42:56]
Chris Paul
Damn right. Damn right. Back him down.
- [42:59]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, absolutely. Face guard. Face them up. Face them up. Ladies and gentlemen, CP3. Face them up. He's the man. Chris is awesome. Yeah, he loves sport. He loves the sport. Probably 1 years, 21 years and still drinking.
- [43:14]
Darius Butler
Adult.
- [43:14]
Pat McAfee
He's got these youth teams. Yeah, he's got these youth teams where he's invested. Like, Matt, I'm going to this tournament here. Obviously, his son's playing, but I think this was happening before as well. I think he's, like, very much invested in the future. He was the NBA Pennsylvania president or whatever. I mean, he loves ball.
- [43:28]
Darius Butler
Like, it's ridiculous, like, how good these kids are now. Like, watching eight, like, we were coming up eighth graders, you'll see, like one or two, like, oh, wow. Like, you go to these tournaments and just watch them or even just going to a pickup, and you're like, oh, yeah, it's 10th grader. He's got a few offers. He's got some D2 offers. Like, these kids are ridiculous. And I can imagine what those type
- [43:46]
Pat McAfee
of tournaments, at those games, similar body styles. Garden. Similar body styles. Because, for instance, when I go play pickup for a large portion of. Of my most recent life, if I'm playing pickup, some reason I'm like, you know, I'm gonna go do some cardio, play basketball. I haven't done this in a long time. I just go. I immediately, as soon as game's about to start, I start regretting it. And then I try to find the laziest Looking one on the other team and I go right up to them and I go, hey, three point line and three point line here and. Yep. Okay, cool. They'll be playing four on four. We'll kind of be living our own game here. We'll make shots. A couple of us will make some shots. We kind of got an agreement. I'm trying to find like body, like minded individual. That's been happening, I think since I've been playing yeah. Boys park basketball whenever I was growing up in youth. I think it happens when you're playing just one bucket take back. I think you're trying to find. I mean, since the beginning of time.
- [44:35]
AQ Shipley
Yep.
- [44:36]
Pat McAfee
Like bodied people or guarding people. I mean, we have it here. Right. This is the first time. Really?
- [44:43]
Bruce
Yes.
- [44:44]
Con Man
Yeah. This. This would be the time that you
- [44:46]
Pat McAfee
could say people are going to judge
- [44:47]
Ty Schmidt
Chet for this big time.
- [44:50]
Pat McAfee
People are judging him. Him and Wemby wants it all because when he was 17 years old, he lost the USA in the Worlds.
- [44:56]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [44:56]
Pat McAfee
He fought out.
- [44:57]
Darius Butler
Especially if, like, if you're not going to take on that assignment or maybe the coach said, hey, you do something else. You got to be productive outside. Like you got to have a 25 and 10 type game. But to just the bending game. That's game one. Should be a long series.
- [45:09]
Ty Schmidt
So he's going to be picking up web full court next game, every possession.
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Darius Butler
There we go.
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Pat McAfee
You think we're.
- [45:16]
Ty Schmidt
He should. If he's not considering it right now, he absolutely should.
- [45:20]
Pat McAfee
I loved watching Caruso go crazy. He's in some American, Italian. American hall of fame.
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Jack Hughes
Oh, yeah.
- [45:24]
Pat McAfee
Remember he won some super Pisano.
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P.K. Subban
He.
- [45:27]
Pat McAfee
He can get going. People forget he's been in the league a long time.
- [45:29]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [45:30]
Pat McAfee
They talk about those goats. I mean, Caruso having a night like that was fun. That was fun to watch. And then it got to the point where he knew too. He was almost Steph Curry in that.
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Bruce
Oh, yeah.
- [45:37]
Pat McAfee
You know, and it was like, if he missed, it was abnormal. Will he continue to stay hot? Will they be able to get a dub over the aliens? We shall see on the other side of the television. Last night was an NHL game that went to overtime. That was spectacular in Buffalo.
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Con Man
Yes, it was.
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Pat McAfee
The Blade Gang and Sabres fans certainly brought it. A lot of Montreal fans, it felt like in the barn. But nonetheless, the environment was crazy. And the Montreal Canadiens have punched their ticket to the Eastern Conference finals. Joining us now is a man who is quite a homer for Le Habaton.
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Bruce
Yep.
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Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen, P.K. subhan. Yay, P.K. how are you, buddy?
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P.K. Subban
I'm great. I'm great. After the big win last night, couldn't be better.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, so a lot of people talk about non biases and stuff like that, but for Montreal, punching their tickets, tell me about the pure joy. I assume your entire body felt you were up there for game six. It was obviously a spectacular environment. We saw the arena packed out up there in Montreal and it's away game, obviously the game's not being played there. It looks like it is filled as if it was the game's home. Tell me about this and why this is great for hockey in your eyes.
- [46:37]
P.K. Subban
PK it's amazing for hockey because there's just so much history in Montreal and you know, we talk about the growth of the game in the United States and it's, it's exploding, you know, since the Olympics and Jack Hughes and all, all of that. But, you know, hockey is a religion in Montreal. And when it comes to playoff time, you can multiply it by a thousand. If it comes to this historic level of energy that's unmatched. And to be a part of it, to witness it, I think it's amazing for the world to see what sports means to people in Montreal and what the Canadians mean. But, you know, it's no different than when you see the Yankees or any of these other teams. It's just Montreal. The energy is just a little bit thicker, the pressure is a little bit thicker. And you know, when you're Talking about over 100 years of history in sports and culture and religion and all of that great stuff in Quebec, it's pretty spectacular to see in the playoffs. What's going on?
- [47:36]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
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Bruce
Okay.
- [47:37]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's me and Pierre Hood. We like to say that.
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P.K. Subban
Hey, and Pat, Pat, you know what? I gotta say this too. Buffalo Sabres fans, unbelievable. I, I, you know, it.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah, they definitely deserve it.
- [47:51]
Darius Butler
Here we go.
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P.K. Subban
Unbelievable. All playoffs. They showed out, they showed up. You know, it was a long drought for them getting there. But we want to see Buffalo back in the playoffs. That's a hell of a team, by the way. That is a wagon of a team that's coming. And Lindy Ruff did a great job. I thought all the players on that team, you know, it's not going to be on anybody's shoulders. They competed. This was just a hell of a series and it went to a team that got the last shot. And you know, Alex Newhook, Stanley cup experience, having a hell of a run right now. Breakout season, really. But for this group, this is a special Group in Montreal. Also a special group in Buffalo, though. I got to give them a lot of credit for how they battled this series.
- [48:34]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, it was a fun D. Buck didn't like us giving them like the. Oh, sorry.
- [48:38]
Darius Butler
I'm just saying for him, I know that city just boohoo Buffalo.
- [48:42]
Con Man
They'll be fine.
- [48:43]
Pat McAfee
They're not called Buffalo.
- [48:47]
Bruce
I have seen boohoo Buffalo as well lately.
- [48:50]
Pat McAfee
You saw to him boast that I'm bullish on Buffalo.
- [48:53]
Con Man
You should be whoish. Because I believe Kleenex is moving their headquarters up there as well.
- [48:58]
Pat McAfee
No, that's the word on the street. With aloe. Huh?
- [49:02]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, it's a good clean X.
- [49:03]
Pat McAfee
That is great. I found now that I shave, I can't blow nose with Kleenex. I gotta use paper towel. Cause the little really sawed off. And I walk out and I just got Kleenex all over my face.
- [49:17]
Con Man
Just go hands.
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Pat McAfee
And with how my energy levels are immediately. That guy's got cocaine on his face. I just blew my nose with a Kleenex. I'm so sorry. I shaved my face. It's the first time I've ever done it. These are things I gotta think of. Yeah. So I'm going paper towel. But on that note, you're talking soft, you're talking about Kleenex. I'm done. You're talking about crying, you're talking about sympathy, which is what we showed to Buffalo because they're such a good fan base. But boy, the sports gods just have not been very kind. Yeah, they poop on. But the sports gods were not that kind to Detroit. And then they sat in that tub of moonshine maybe. Right? Didn't they do that? What was it? The curse of Bobby Lane. Yeah, what was it? It was a moonshine bathtub in. Yeah. Whiskey.
- [49:56]
Con Man
And they made it all the way to the.
- [49:58]
Pat McAfee
Wow. Yeah. Did you know this pk? So maybe.
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P.K. Subban
No. Yeah, explain that. Explain that.
- [50:04]
Pat McAfee
The curse of Bobby Lane was around since the 50s. We. And then we had Peyton Manning and Jeff Daniels in a bathtub of whiskey and it abolished the curse. We won a playoff game for the first time in my lifetime. So on that. Wow. Yeah. So Buffalo might be doing this right now in their own way. We know they got a lot of whiskey. We know they got a lot of tables. They brought in those big ass bison.
- [50:25]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [50:25]
Pat McAfee
That might be the curse lifter.
- [50:27]
Bruce
Wow.
- [50:28]
Pat McAfee
The bison have come in and scared him out of there. If they would have had little tiny baby bisons. That curse. Yeah, we'll see.
- [50:36]
Con Man
Typically, the football gods don't love when you fire a coach who wins 12 to 14 games a year.
- [50:41]
Bruce
But we'll see.
- [50:42]
Con Man
We'll see.
- [50:43]
Pat McAfee
It's a good point. All right. Okay. Yeah, very valid.
- [50:46]
Con Man
We'll see.
- [50:46]
Pat McAfee
Let's stay in the east here. Montreal, your team that you are not showing any bias towards at all as you're going shirtless with their fans before one of the game six, which is obviously great. I'm sure Sabers fans are really happy to watch that on their television as their team team was continuing to build. And like you, I love the Sabres fans and Buffalo fans. Hopefully they have success. I'm also happy for the Caniacs down there in Raleigh. That place is awesome. That place has been electrifying. Their team has been on a break for a year. Like people forget that they even exist right now with everything going on not only in the NHL playoffs, but also the NBA playoffs. Feels like they've been a forgotten bunch almost. What are your thoughts on Carolina coming out of this long break and how's the matchup with Montroya Goal?
- [51:28]
P.K. Subban
Well, talking at the desk yesterday night, Messier, you know, had mentioned about the 11 days off or whatever time that they have been off before they play their first game and, and he remembered in one of his playoff runs where they had time off and they were, it proved to pay off dividends in the playoff run. Now I, I think it's a really long wait, but it is going to pay off in some ways as the series goes on. But you also run into the issue of potentially starting the series late. You know, you can't mimic two game sevens like Montreal just went through. You know, the other side of it is okay, well Montreal, they've just played two game sevens. Is this a tired group? Is this a banged up group? All questions that we're going to see as the series starts. But one thing's for sure, I do believe that playing in seven two game sevens in the playoffs in the first two rounds against the Tampa Bay Lightning and obviously the Buffalo Sabres, which are two teams that have been really, really competitive all year, has been great for this group. You know, Kaden Gooley who made the big play on the first, he's just rounding out his game. He missed a lot of time this season. You know, obviously we're seeing the chemistry now with the depth scoring and Bull Duke and different players stepping up. Obviously Newhook is a guy that, you know, people probably didn't think offensively would explode this way in the playoffs, but you still got Demidov you got Cold Caufield, who's a 50 goal scorer. This is a group that's galvanized right now by the energy that Montreal and the community and the fan base is providing them. Right now they're riding a wave that can't be mimicked by X's and O's or. Or even the players that are that. That you can have on your roster. I think it's the energy in which they've created the culture that they've created in that locker room. This is a tight group that believes in each other. And you know, they got outplayed last night for the majority of that game, like Pat, it was like very similar to Team USA and Team Canada. It was the same thing. And like you could. People talk about analytics. I don't want to hear about the analytics. Take that and toss it out the window. The best player on the ice and the most important player is the goaltender. He's on the ice for the most time. Dovish was the best player in this series and that's all they needed. Just like Team usa, Hallebuk was the best player on the ice. Well, they ended up winning the gold medal. They were outplayed. They were out chanced by Team Canada. Same thing in this game. Montreal was out chanced and outplayed, but they had the best player on the ice and that was their goaltender. So, you know, listen, we call it hockey, but you might. You could call the sport goaltending because if you don't have a goaltender, you ain't going anywhere.
- [54:07]
Pat McAfee
Hockey's a better name. But I do appreciate the metaphor and everything that you're saying. I do appreciate that he was interviewed afterwards about something about 40 games. And he said, oh, I could play another 40 games. Feels like he is in his own. We've seen this before, obviously, whenever it comes to playoff runs and a goalie going crazy. On that note, Connor has quick question for you.
- [54:24]
Con Man
Yeah, P.K. to that point, with Carolina, the hottest goalie in the playoffs, it felt like was Freddie Anderson. But now he's been not on his ass, but he has been playing for about two weeks. Weeks. Is there a way to kind of carry that on for Carolina? Is this kind of like Freddie Anderson's confident but he's not as hot as he was, or how does this entire thing work when it comes to him and the Panther or, excuse me, the Hurricane staying hot?
- [54:47]
P.K. Subban
Well, a great example is you. You know, and not to take us out of the playoffs, but Sidney Crosby goes to the world championships to play and I'M saying it again. We know he's a leader. We know that he's all Team Canada. He's all captain and all of that, but it also has to do with where he's at in his career. He's got to keep playing. And I always think that at this time of the year, when you have those big gaps, the intensity and the attention. Look, Montreal couldn't break a puck out of their zone. So if you're sitting off for 11 days, you're stepping into a conference final with a team that's been playing that type of competitive hockey. I think there's gotta be an adjustment period and the team that's better prepared for that, you know, right now, I like Montreal with their youth and their energy. These are all young players. They got a couple of veterans, but these guys are young, right? Demagogues, young. Cole Cockfield's young, Suzuki's young. Lane Hudson's young. So, you know, when I look at that group, I think they can ride that way. For Carolina, it's going to be flavin defensively. Sebastian Ajo now is going to get a little bit more time and space, more of a skill, a skill series. So look out for Ajo. Look out for Seth Jarvis. Yup. Those guys. I know we're going to get some more ice in this series, so I look for those guys to explode. Listen, Game one is going to be tough for Montreal to win. It's going to be a very, very difficult game for them to win, considering the energy and what they're up against. But I'm just so looking forward to these teams getting after it. I really am.
- [56:11]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Me too. Let's go to the see. I like Montreal in game one. Wow. Me personally. You forgot, maybe. Okay, Pat, hold on. Pat.
- [56:24]
Con Man
Are Jarvis boys going to be.
- [56:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he was doing a Manitoba. Are the Manitoba boys coming through or. I hope so.
- [56:30]
P.K. Subban
I hope so. I hope they're going to be there. I'd like to think so. If your buddy's playing in the conference final, you got to show up. But I have a question for you guys, because there's a lot of question marks around whether Montreal should start dovish for game one or rest them and maybe play another goaltender now.
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Con Man
No way.
- [56:48]
AQ Shipley
I.
- [56:48]
P.K. Subban
No, no, hold on. Well, exactly. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying no. At this time of the year, if I'm dovish, if I'm putting myself in his shoes and Marty St. Louis for a second.
- [56:59]
Chris Paul
Right?
- [56:59]
P.K. Subban
I'm just playing coach for a second. Like, how can you honestly go to your goaltender and say, hey, dude, you know what? Thanks for the first two rounds. We're going to rest you though. We're going to give this guy the net. Like, I don't know how you can do that. So I think that. Exactly. They got to ride this wave and you got to play these guys. They're a young group. This is why I picked them. Remember, they're only halfway there. You need to have a young leg legs to win the Stanley cup. Just to get there. You got to have the young legs. They got the legs to do it. They got the skill and the talent to do it. They're up against the probably the best for checking team that I've seen in a long time in the National Hockey League. Those young players and their experience is going to be put to the test in this series. That could be the difference, right? That could be the difference.
- [57:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. It could be that. You know, it is a game of attrition. Who can last. Actually, it just came out that a couple people from Anaheim had broken neck. Next. Yeah. That is the difference of hockey. Drew Livingstone producing. Drew, I guess he's go have since 2000. Teams that come off a Game 7 victory are 71 in a series against a team coming off this week. That's what I'm saying. Wow. I think hockey is a rust situation. Oh, yeah. As opposed to a rest situation, especially playoff hockey. I think you're flying around in these games every other night.
- [58:10]
P.K. Subban
I mean, it is like adrenaline, man. Adrenaline.
- [58:13]
Pat McAfee
But I'm saying it's like a routine. I think. I think the them sweeping too straight. It's like long layoff. Long layoff. Now, obviously they were able to sweep coming off a sweep, so maybe they're able to handle it more than everybody else. But you know, you watch that game last night, it's like, okay, so a team that has just been trying to do that in practice is going to have to show up for that. I think the first one is where I think Carolina maybe gets the skates back.
- [58:36]
Con Man
Yeah.
- [58:36]
Pat McAfee
I might be completely wrong. I might be completely wrong. Is there. They haven't lost. I think you're right, Pat. But there is the one X factor Carolina has has is Rod Brindamore. He's the kind of coach that may
- [58:47]
Iman Shumpert
be able to rally a group of
- [58:49]
Pat McAfee
guys who haven't played in 11 days
- [58:50]
Iman Shumpert
to come out and skate through a
- [58:51]
Pat McAfee
wall for 60 minutes. And for the KC. I mean, they'll do it for the Kacs too. I mean. But Pat.
- [58:58]
P.K. Subban
Hold on, Pat. For me My concern as someone who obviously wants to see Montreal win this, my concern is Montreal sat back for the whole G like they sat back for three. You cannot do that. Like, you know, they win the game last night in overtime on a broken play and they find a way to get it done. But to me, I look at Tampa Bay and I look at Buffalo, there were lulls in those series where the other they just tilted the ice on them. And I just, you know, I go back to when I got called up in the playoffs when Yaroslav Halak went on that crazy run. And that's how I see it. You know, he was playing out of his mind. They're putting his name on stop signs and we're getting Mike Camilleri scoring every time he shoots the punch. And it's a similar thing. And it's like when I'm watching hockey, I'm like, how does this translate? And they're just finding ways to do it. I don't know if you can sit back and withstand Carolina's for check over and over and over again all game. So I got to see what Marty St. Louis going to change and what adjustments he's going to make to get them out of their zone. They got to come out of their zone more connected and playing with the puck. They're just not going to last in this series if they don't Excited to
- [60:08]
Pat McAfee
see the Carolina Hurricanes back on the ice and obviously in the west that tips are puck drops tomorrow.
- [60:13]
Con Man
Yeah.
- [60:13]
Pat McAfee
Okay. I can't wait to see the Avalanche who everybody's saying might be the best team in the history of hockey. This team might be the ones. Minnesota was able to obviously get a win in the series against them, but they would have come through completely unscathed through the playoffs. And they're taking on a team that's been here before. The Vegas Golden Knights. Fresh off a news break. D bug.
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AQ Shipley
Yeah.
- [60:32]
Darius Butler
We did have some news breaks this morning from Pat and I want you to see the news break. Obviously you were aware of it. I want your reaction because you've been a me member of the media for a long time. Obviously you were a player for a long time. What's your thoughts on this? I'm not as familiar with the NHL draft, but a second round pick, I'm sure some pretty great players have come thoughts on this.
- [60:53]
P.K. Subban
All right. It's a massive fine. Listen, a second round pick, forget the hundred thousand dollars, you'll pay that. But the second round pick, you don't know what that could be. So that's a valuable pick, especially with everything in the game now the cap and how difficult it is to get young good prospects. The top pick in the first or second round is a huge loss. So I'm not sure what happened, guys, with. With this and where this was kind of confused or misled or what happened, but. But that's a big pick to lose. It is. That one hurts.
- [61:26]
Pat McAfee
Well, pk, I'll keep you updated on all the NHL news as I become an insider in this particular league that we all love so much. You've done a great job all playoffs. Good luck to you and the Canadiens and maybe we'll see you soon. You're the best.
- [61:39]
P.K. Subban
Okay. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Pat.
- [61:42]
Con Man
Yeah.
- [61:44]
Pat McAfee
All right. Our one wraps up. Incredible hockey. Incredible basketball. Whoa. Hour twosie. Oh, college gambling. What a judge on the take.
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Iman Shumpert
No.
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Pat McAfee
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Pat McAfee
Four are the greatest. Last night was a great indicator why. And if you do, don't watch sports. I have no idea what you do with your life, but if you're watching this, I assume that you do. And we thank you like hell for enjoying the greatest thing ever created, which is competition that rallies and unifies while providing electric moments for us all to forget about everything else going on. Are these alien? They're talking a lot about these aliens.
- [63:37]
Ty Schmidt
They are.
- [63:38]
Pat McAfee
Did we watch one last night? Yeah. Go absolutely crazy in Oklahoma City as wemby not only showcases in the paint, but obviously incredible range. Looking like Steph Curry as he leads the San Antonio spurs to a 10 series lead. After going into the champion's house, the MVP's house, in stealing a game one dub, what will the response be from the Thunder? The Thunder fan showed up in a big way. It felt like I was there, felt like I was having a good time. Tirico crossover. Reggie Miller on the call. Felt like everything was perfect and stupendous. And what we saw was maybe the next 20 years of the NBA play out in front of us. A man who's 7 foot 5 and can do it all, a man who wants the moment, lives for the moment and walks into Oklahoma City and he says, hey, you know what? I'm about sick of the whole MVP party you're having for somebody that isn't me. Bonjour, Sava ass pour tout. That's French.
- [64:30]
Con Man
Yep.
- [64:31]
Pat McAfee
He wasn't the only French person that had a great time last night.
- [64:33]
Ty Schmidt
No, he wasn't.
- [64:34]
Pat McAfee
Montreal Canadiens, congratulations to the Les Habatins. Les Habatins out there, they actually crush it. Get a win in overtime in Buffalo. And for Buffalo Sabres fans and Buffalo people in general, Buffalonians, if you will, who we have a very, very high regard for.
- [64:52]
Bruce
Yeah.
- [64:52]
Pat McAfee
Another heartbreak.
- [64:54]
Bruce
Another heartbreak.
- [64:55]
Pat McAfee
Just another heartbreak for their sports fans up there. Their indoor lacrosse team. Really good.
- [65:00]
Con Man
Sure.
- [65:00]
Pat McAfee
The Buffalo Rockers. You remember them?
- [65:02]
Darius Butler
Yeah.
- [65:03]
Con Man
Soldiers.
- [65:04]
Pat McAfee
Buffalo Bandits. They still do it. Lo, We're not doing that. Oh, my God. That. That kind of went too easily together there. Cuz I think if we were to put a little time into that particular rhythm, I think we could think of something for the heartbreak that Buffalo sports fans have had to soldier through for sure. And what we would like to say to Western New York is. Go on, fans. Good job, fans. Remember, winter just ended well. Sorry. Winter's about to end for you guys. The sun's coming in like a month or so. Come on. Everything's good now. Stadium, new stadium coming.
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Bruce
Beautiful.
- [65:45]
Pat McAfee
It's gonna be black. We didn't close it off, so we can't have winter things, you know, but we'll cover a lot of it because we want to still experience Buffalo, the lake. Life up there is going to be great. I mean, everything's coming around the corner. The sun will be coming out about a month or so up there, and then everything's going to be fantastic. Then we're right into football season.
- [66:01]
Jack Hughes
That's right.
- [66:02]
Pat McAfee
And then that's going to go good.
- [66:05]
Bruce
That's Going to go great still of Josh Allen.
- [66:07]
Con Man
Yeah, we'll see.
- [66:08]
Pat McAfee
Last night was an indicator. See a 5 and 9's coming probably after that. Last night was an indicator that everything's about to crash. The old habits of Buffalo and sports are about to end. It's dawning of a new day. We just had to have our heart broke one last time. Game seven overtime at home. One that we scratched and clawed our way back into. And then devastation as the French people that are speaking in your barn get to celebrate all over your city, their city and punch their ticket to the Eastern Conference finals. This was the final thing that the Buffalonians had to go through this fall. Whole new era for the Buffalonians. Congratulations to you guys. Congratulations, Sal Paccio. My things are coming good up there for Montreal. Peace to is no longer going to
- [66:56]
Con Man
be the what the Buffalo Bills kicked his ass to the see.
- [66:59]
Ty Schmidt
I don't. I don't know if that was the case. Let's just say South Kap good news.
- [67:04]
Pat McAfee
That's not true.
- [67:06]
Con Man
I didn't know that.
- [67:07]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's not true. You got your and toxic table 1/2 of the Hammer. Dad. Cowboys is X.
- [67:15]
Con Man
It's ridiculous, man.
- [67:17]
Pat McAfee
Joining us now, best employee.
- [67:19]
Darius Butler
I don't think they're making it up.
- [67:20]
Pat McAfee
Ladies and gentlemen joining us. It sounds like I missed something and I don't like it. I can already tell. I don't like it.
- [67:26]
Bruce
Hate it.
- [67:26]
Pat McAfee
But I don't want to keep doing it at all. I'd like to move on from this. Okay. Spaceships don't come equipped with rear view mirrors. They dip. And if we're talking about what you're talking about right there. I need to get that behind me and never talk about that again. I can't live in that world where paisan isn't doing his thing on the
- [67:39]
Ty Schmidt
drums and say that because he may be going on tour with like. Like Luke Combs or something. Playing the drums?
- [67:45]
Darius Butler
Yeah.
- [67:46]
Ty Schmidt
We don't know the Peppers. Exactly.
- [67:47]
Pat McAfee
They took his mic. The Red Hot Chili ones.
- [67:49]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [67:49]
Pat McAfee
I don't think so. They got a drummer. I think he was on Saturday Live. All right. Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen. Man that might have the answers, actually. College football national champions. Super bowl champion Ryder cup winner, ladies and gentlemen. A.J. hawk's going on. Have you heard?
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AJ Hawk
And the only way. The only way Sal's not in Buffalo is he had to get recruited away from some giant national show, I would assume.
- [68:08]
Con Man
Right?
- [68:09]
AJ Hawk
That's the only. Only way he's gone.
- [68:10]
Pat McAfee
I don't know, to be honest. This is all kind of being. Being thrown on me pretty quickly here in the last.
- [68:14]
AJ Hawk
He's doing Wheel of Fortune. Is he taking over for Seacrest? Wheel of Fortune.
- [68:18]
Con Man
I'm pretty sure Bino told him to get the hell out of town. But again, I'm not sure exactly what happened.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. We love Sal, we love Buffalo. It's his hard time right now. We're kind of piling on. Which you didn't want to do earlier.
- [68:29]
Con Man
No.
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Pat McAfee
You talked about not wanting to pile on, but yeah, I mean, maybe there was a national gig that opened up for Sal. I hope that's the case. But we do know he loves Buffalo. Congrats to Montreal. Let's talk a little college football news. Shout to out, shall we? Interesting development in the Brendan Sorsby case. Okay. As you know, Sorsby has entered himself into a rehab down wherever. I don't know where it is. We assume somewhere in the south, but we're not 100% sure because of a gambling addiction that was reported. And then the NCAA found out about Texas Tech. Had already did Texas Tech know whenever they signed him through the transfer portal as he was the number one quarterback basically in transfer portal. And Texas Tech has great investment behind all of its sports, including its football. And they pay this money. How much? It all kind of got thrown on us quick. There's been an update in the case. I guess there is a deadline that has been placed June 22 or something like that for the supplemental draft. So there is a deadline in Texas. Tech quarterback Brendan Sorsby has filed for an injunction against the NCAA seeking his college's eligibility. It cites a wholesale abandonment of its obligations and duties to promote the well being of Sorsby. Now, now there was a lot of other information that was coming out about the local judge that would be handling this particular case. Something just happened down in Ole Miss with Trinidad Chambliss. There was a lot of this too in Mississippi kind of happened. Right. This feels like what the NCAA is most scared about. The ncaa, anytime you listen to him talk, basically says we can't do anything because we'll just get sued. Everything we do, we get sued. So we need government to give us power to be able to make rulings so that we have some sort of say. Because everything we do, we just basically get sued. Seemingly how Charlie Baker was phrasing him when he was talking to us when we were asking him about other issues as opposed to these particular issues that are currently happening. That is kind of what's taking place and this is happening in courtroom in Lubbock, Texas. Right. Because that's where he is.
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Pete Thamel
Yep.
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Pat McAfee
Okay. So now obviously everything gets called into question, which is certainly going to be the conversation. But this does seem like a pretty big precedential move here for the NCAA and for football because it feels like, like. And this might just be, you know, narrative building here by sides, which will certainly happen publicly. I think they're trying to showcase what is possible whenever guy's hobby is gambling. Okay. Like, this was this guy's like, actual hobby. See, he was bet on like Turkish soccer at like 9am like five bucks on it. Like, it felt like this became an actual addiction. Like a thing that he was just doing on a regular basis. And now they're trying to figure out or determine publicly, like, should this guy's football career be ruined because he was doing all this? And they're like, well, he did better on Indiana when he was on the team. And they're like, well, he's come out and said that it made him feel more part of the team because he wasn't doing shit for the team.
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Bruce
They weren't good then.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. So he. So that was like his angle coming out. So now it's like an interesting thing about empathy for the situation while still having rules that are from a different time. While we certainly are going to have a lot more of these types of situations in the future. So we're setting precedent. It's a. This is a wild case. We'll have thaml joining us in about 30 minutes or so.
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Bruce
But it's a wild case, a wild situation, because when you break it down and think about it, you cannot. You cannot set the precedent where it's like, where it's okay. Where you don't miss time for betting on your own team, even if it's for them to win, even if you weren't playing whatever. You can't be betting on your own sport. I think everyone agrees with that. Just because of how big betting is now and how big athletics are now. You just the whole whole same sport thing, same team thing, you just can't have it. But then when they. When you get in trouble for it, you file an injunction against the NCAA in your. In the hometown of where the college plays, and then you get a hometown judge.
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Pat McAfee
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I was stating facts.
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Bruce
I didn't say that the hometown judge was a Texas Tech fan or anything.
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Pat McAfee
I did not say any of that. When they put on the road robe. Yeah. I learned this from Judge Judy.
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Bruce
Yeah.
- [72:16]
Pat McAfee
When you Put on the robe. You don't think about what football team.
- [72:20]
Bruce
I agree.
- [72:21]
Pat McAfee
You think about the coral law, that
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AJ Hawk
you were human anymore.
- [72:24]
Pat McAfee
No. You put the robe on, get that gavel, and all of a sudden you are representative of precedent. That's about as you should. There ain't gonna be any. It seems like you were.
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Bruce
I was just stating facts of what the situation is in this case and have been in others.
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Pat McAfee
We were just about to show maybe a picture here. We should not do that until we let Pete Thamel lead us to that photo. K. We will not do that, Judge.
- [72:47]
Bruce
You don't know.
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Pat McAfee
We don't know. We don't know anything. They. The Internet's doing. It's a lot of research happening right now on who's doing what around here. And all of a sudden I got a little bit of a change of tune. I think sworesby's gonna be good for this Texas tech team.
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Con Man
Yeah.
- [73:01]
Chris Paul
Okay.
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Pat McAfee
I think this is gonna be a good story. I think it's gonna be a good story for others to learn from.
- [73:05]
Chris Paul
Like, hey, wow, that's quite the turn.
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Pat McAfee
If you've been reading what I'm. Unless Pete comes in and tells me something vastly different. Just, I think, you know, a lot of people think, like, maybe we're a shallow bunch. You know, people that don't really listen to us. They might think we're a shallow bunch.
- [73:23]
Con Man
Sure.
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Pat McAfee
I don't think that's the case. I think we just judge things differently. I like to read the humans in the situation before anything else. Like in what when I wemby last night, the human, hey, that guy's got to watch sga. That's what I'm worried about. I ain't worried about double teaming SGA as soon as he gets cross half court. I love that information from Chris Paul, the way I'm viewing it is how humans are going to act. Probably just from my. I think, you know, sociology minor, you know, and how this whole thing kind of works and how humans operate and, you know, like the just. I think that matters so much more than we give credit to.
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Darius Butler
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
So, like, immediately upon what I'm reading about this situation down here, I think humans are going to act like humans here. And I think swordsby's going to throw, I don't know, maybe 30 touchdown, 40 touchdowns, maybe. Wow, good chance. Unless Pete Thamill comes in and tells me a little different information than what I've been reading on the Internet. It feels like, hey, he's going to be down there.
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Iman Shumpert
Does the.
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AJ Hawk
Does the sheer Amount of bets that he placed. Does that, does that like that comes into account. Right. When they're making this decision, like hey, this guy, obviously when they go back they find out, I don't know how many thousands of bets he was making. Right. Like does it matter? Does that have anything to do with it?
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Pat McAfee
Well, I think that is why him checking himself in, I believe to the hey, I got to break this from me is a big deal. Which is probably what they're saying. Are you looking out for the well being of the player? Like I reported myself basically for having this issue and then a big thing happened.
- [74:43]
AQ Shipley
Sure.
- [74:43]
Pat McAfee
You know, so that's certainly an angle. Yeah.
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AJ Hawk
This is a, this is a first. Right. This is the first we're seeing of something like this.
- [74:49]
Pat McAfee
The, the thought of this happening. Is this happening in Texas Tech Stadium, like the court case?
- [74:53]
Ty Schmidt
It could be
- [74:57]
Pat McAfee
for all the fan capacity. I mean that's what I was Patrick Mahomes on the stand.
- [75:02]
Ty Schmidt
The judge, Judge requested that he shows up in his pads and uniform and not like a suit.
- [75:07]
Bruce
Mahomes is going to be a character
- [75:08]
Pat McAfee
witness because this would be precedent setting. And then let's say they rule four swords. The NCAA appeals that to the Supreme Court. Now the Supreme Court, this case, is that kind of how the whole process would go? I don't know. Anytime courts get involved, it feels like we got a four or five year process. But then Schefter was reporting because at the beginning of the reporting of this situation for the supplemental draft, there was a deadline. They're like, end of June needs to have. Then it came out, the NFL was like, nah, actually what we can kind of make it work. We don't want to kind of put a deadline on anything. Then Schefter yesterday comes back is like, hey, June 22nd actually is the deadline for the supplemental draft. If they were to do it, it's like Sorsby would be very, very highly sought after in the supplemental draft streets. Now, there has been precedent by the NFL to follow NCAA punishments for things that have happened in college versus what going to the NFL. I just, this is. There's a lot on the line here. There's a lot on the line and allegedly we got an answer by June 22nd. That sounds completely abnormal. Court system, NCAA precedential thing. And we're have an answer in 30 days apparently. Okay. I don't know. Con man. Yeah, I don't know if that's going to be the case, but I'm excited to see how it all plays out.
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Con Man
And I also don't know if the 10,000 bets hurts or helps them because, like, 10,000 makes it seem like, okay, this is a genuine problem. This is, you know, 100 massive, massive bets. Like we've seen in the past. I believe Calvin Ridley, when he got in trouble, he placed like, two or three huge bets and they were parlays. But clearly that wasn't like a gambling problem. It was more so, like, that was where across the line he is clearly betting on games where he might have information. He served his year and he's back and, you know, it's great. But with Sorsby, it does feel a little different. Where it was him on a bad team, losing bets on a bad team and then also placing, like, you mentioned, and, you know, Turkish soccer, 10,000 plus, like, that is a problem. I know Keisha Booty, who's a star for the Patriots now. He had a problem in college and he opened up about it in a Players Tribune article, and it sounded very similar to Sourceby. So, like, you think about that situation. Booty, who, you know, lost a lot of, you know, potential money potential, you know, draft stock in his situation at lsu, didn't ruin his entire life.
- [77:20]
Ty Schmidt
He.
- [77:21]
Con Man
He earned his way back and now, you know, he's eligible to hopefully get a big deal in the NFL. And is that situation more similar to this? That's how it feels, at least from the outside.
- [77:30]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Just as the tide has turned over the last couple days, it feels like as the appeal and dates have been placed in there, we will certainly continue to follow along. Pete Thamel will be joining us in about 15 minutes with more on story. Let's go back to the NBA, obviously. Gigantic night last night. Two Goliath battle in the Western Conference. The hut hype lived up.
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Bruce
Oh, yeah.
- [77:48]
Pat McAfee
To the game, ladies and gentlemen, joining us now, NBA champion friend of the program, Iman Sharper.
- [77:56]
Iman Shumpert
What's up, my guys?
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Pat McAfee
Whoa, where are you? Where are you at?
- [78:02]
Iman Shumpert
It's espn, baby. You know what I'm saying? I gotta give you a little shout out.
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Darius Butler
Espn, baby.
- [78:06]
Pat McAfee
I appreciate you putting that in there behind you for us. Thank you for doing that. You're the man, Iman. Okay, Last night was. We started the show by saying, and if Adam Silver was to create a Western Conference game, one in a lab, it would be last night. Just what's your takeaway and what is the conversation about the state of basketball with these two teams in the West? Just strictly. But Wemby, for What the next 10 years of this? Is this where we're looking? What a Special night for hoops. It felt like Iman.
- [78:34]
Iman Shumpert
Yeah. Again, this is the matchup that we were all promised as basketball fans. The teams don't seem to like each other.
- [78:40]
Pat McAfee
Other.
- [78:41]
Iman Shumpert
There's chips on shoulders. I don't think Wimy likes seeing SGA hoist up his second MVP trophy. I don't think Wimy took well to them putting Caruso on him toward the end of the game to be an answer. I just. Everything about this matchup, Stephon Castle getting the dunk and staring SGA down, everything about it entices the NBA to one play harder. But for that 48 minutes that we all talk about, we want them to hate each other. Other they gave us that. You know what I'm saying? As basketball fans, I think we're all sitting here with a smile. OKC just now has to. You know, they're going to have to go into Sanit 1. They're going to have to take care of home court next game, but they're definitely going to have to go into San Antonio and steal one. So we're going to see what they made up.
- [79:25]
Pat McAfee
Perkins said something hilarious last night about sending his kids to them monks. Okay. Him and his. Him and his wife were talking about sending his kids to them monks because he would like to know whatever the hell they said to Wemby, but he just seems like a different creature out there. Aj, go ahead out.
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Darius Butler
Yeah.
- [79:40]
AJ Hawk
He doesn't show up. I'm wondering, what is this OKC team going to do? I guess defensively, you think in game two, are they going to switch it up? Are we going to see Chet on Wemby? Like, what are they going to do?
- [79:50]
Iman Shumpert
Oh, we better. We better see check guard Wimy. I'm not sure why Chat wasn't guarding Wimby. I'm not sure why, when the overtimes came, Chad didn't look at his coach and say, hey, man, I love you to death. I. I get the game plan. That's my matchup. At some point, you got to take the challenge because you saw. Saw in Wimby's eyes what he was going to do to the game. He was going to impose his will on the game. He was going to make it almost personal at the end. And to see that and see Chet keep having to come off the weak side, I thought he put himself at a disadvantage.
- [80:19]
Pat McAfee
What he had like seven of the 10 points in. I forget what. There was some.
- [80:23]
AQ Shipley
He.
- [80:24]
Pat McAfee
He just absolutely took over. There was a time late in that game where I thought, plus six and a half. We Weren't going to cover. Okay, there, there. There was a little bit of a
- [80:32]
Bruce
dogs go to, dogs go to die.
- [80:34]
Pat McAfee
It was very. I was very scared as we were going there. And it turns out seven point win for San Antonio. It's like every narrative that could potentially happen or every collapse that could have taken place or Wemby played good. But in the end, the championship pedigree of Oklahoma City won out at the end. Like, who's going to make shots down the stretch? It's like this first team answered every single time. It was spectacular. And their average age, I guess 22 and a half. They're like the youngest in a long time. Your thoughts on that, Iman, is that just an old soul crew down there because they've been through so much? Do you think think the age thing does matter whenever you get to a certain point?
- [81:07]
Iman Shumpert
You know, I did think that there was a time in this game that I was going to have to say, wow, this is the part where experience takes over. It was the time at the end when they had to tie the bucket and SGA brought the ball to the left side of the floor off of a Iverson like cut and then left Wimy in the corner to have to make the decision on would it be a three or a layup that they would take take. Wimby stayed in the corner and I felt that they had figured out some sort of tilt to keep Wimby at bay. To say, you have to make a decision. You are no longer allowed to play defense in Rome. He likes to play rover a lot of times where he's not really guarding anybody, he's guarding everybody. Anybody that comes in his vicinity and anybody that's left open, he does a late contest on with it being a high contest. I thought OKC finally pinpointed it and left him in the corner. And to see the spurs take the challenge and just pressure defensively, get stops, get rebounds at the end because a lot of those rebounds just got loose. It was a lot of 50, 50 balls. They got all of those. I can't really point the finger at their age anymore. I think these are just ballers. These are guys that want to take the challenge and they're guys that really don't care that they have the MVP over there. I can't stress that enough that when I look at Castle Castle, I look at. Why can't I think of my other going out there. I just don't see guys that I don't want to say they're disrespecting Them, but they don't respect it enough to lay down. They're saying you're going to have to come beat us. We have the advantage over here. And anytime you believe that, again to win, it takes a little bit of delusion. They have it.
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Pat McAfee
Yeah. And it felt like through the season they had it as well. You know, it was like the New England Patriots having to go up to Foxborough to play the New England Patriots. You lost the game before you even got there. The coaches did, players did, somebody did. And for this team, spurs team, it feels like they're pissed off that people view Oklahoma City like that as opposed to them. I love it, man.
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Darius Butler
Yeah.
- [83:05]
Iman Shumpert
And I love, I love, I love too.
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AJ Hawk
We, we.
- [83:08]
Iman Shumpert
We don't talk enough about just the spurs organization in general. The spurs have been a great organization for a really long time. You saying the Patriots really made me think of that and hone in on.
- [83:17]
Ty Schmidt
On it.
- [83:17]
Iman Shumpert
Having Pop around that culture, having I know their coach is a winning coach, but to have somebody like Pop a. A real pillar in this basketball world to, to be able to lend advice, to be able to give guys encouragement and move the needle along while the playoffs are going to have them prepared for these type of moments. In these type of situations you are seeing counter punches being thrown by they. They seem like veteran guards. It seems like Wimy is a veteran veteran. But I think a lot of it is the coaching, the poise, the winning culture that's around. Having Tim Duncan to lean on, having David Robinson around to lean on, being able to have those conversations calls for a winning mentality.
- [83:58]
Pat McAfee
Coach Mitch Johnson leading the squad down there and obviously Dag over there in Oklahoma City. It has been. It was high level basketball. It was fun to watch. That was. That felt like game seven of the finals. Oh yeah, right there. Western Conference, obviously they were playing without a guy that we know. Go ahead, con man.
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Con Man
Yeah. Sh. No, Dear and Fox, that kind of almost helped them because it gives all these other guys, the young dudes that we're talking about, more confidence, more time to kind of get settled in the conference finals. What is your read on that? Do you think adding Dear and Fox will be kind of simple? Offense can do exactly what they just did or do you think that will change things up a bit just because the depth of OKC is incredible and that does seem to be a, a huge advantage for them. Especially if each one of these games is going to go to double, triple, who knows, quadruple overtime.
- [84:46]
Iman Shumpert
Well, if I'm OKC and I know that we Just lost without them having Dear and Fox. I'm scared to death. I, I, I don't think that it was one of those things where you say maybe it worked out in our favor. If you're the spurs saying it worked out in our favor that Dear didn't play, it's like, no, they have been a three headed monster this whole time. Sometimes, sometimes it's two of them that get off. Sometimes all of them get off. Sometimes it's one of them that comes up big. It doesn't really matter. They rotate, they all play different speeds and they all do different things. I think that yeah, you had Dylan Harper in more of a rhythm. But De' aon Fox coming back does not change things. It just forces now Dylan Harper to attack your second group, which is supposed to be OKC's better group. But if Dylan Harper now comes off the bench to attack that group, it's like when do you get a break and a little bit of time for off to, to get your breath together, to get your, your bearings together to actually deal with Wimy.
- [85:39]
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you what, I'm excited to deal with Wimy for the next hell
- [85:42]
Iman Shumpert
of a ball club they put together.
- [85:44]
Darius Butler
They got Harper.
- [85:45]
Pat McAfee
They changed the rules because of this ball club. Hey, we're not, we're not doing this stacked ones up again. We're not, we're not doing it. Look what they got down in San Antonio and they'll be able to pay them more because they're all from there. Right.
- [85:55]
Con Man
And like the Duncan old school thing, like they all stayed together when like Manu, Tony and him probably could have split up. So if there's any place where all those guys will stay and take less money, it's the Spurs.
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Pat McAfee
And it feels like Wemby Clear star. But he's super humble.
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Con Man
Yeah.
- [86:08]
Pat McAfee
The, the, you know, so everybody else around him is not going to grow to resent him, which could potentially happen in some clip picture.
- [86:15]
Darius Butler
Yeah, the whole sideline.
- [86:19]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah. The boys gassing him up. Hey, we're on the Wemby jet, brother. Yeah, let's go ahead and do that. Always nice though.
- [86:24]
Iman Shumpert
It's always nice like that.
- [86:27]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's the thing though. Like we talked about it as just outsiders non Hoopers when Wemby got to San Antonio. Yeah, I mean this is awesome. This is Gas the boy up, man. Hey, gas up the jet.
- [86:38]
Con Man
Kelly Olenek pointing at him.
- [86:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So Tom McMahon was special teams coach for me in at the Indianapolis Colts. He went on to the Raiders. I Don't think he's there anymore. He's at the Broncos. Whatever the case, growing up, he grew up on a horse farm, okay. And he had an entire mentality that shaped from his horse farm. He said, basically my only job as a kid was to feed the stud. Okay, just make sure this guy, okay, the one that we need here is happy. So his entire narrative is, if we have a stud returner, let's do everything we can to make this guy good. Vinatieri, hey, let's just feed the stud here. Let's just get this out of the way. San Antonio has gotten to the point where it's like, hey, let's feed the stud here. Let's let Wemby kind of be the guy. Because when he first got there, kind of OG's around, he's going to have to prove that he can make it in the NBA. It's crazy when an organization just decides like, hey, we're going to go and what that can do for a guy, like what that can do for Wemby as he knows that this is my team. We go as I go. And the boys are all in. That's huge for the vibes. Huge for the vibes.
- [87:34]
Ty Schmidt
And when those guys can feed the stud and then you still have every other starter scoring in double double figures and you have a couple guys scoring 20, like, yeah, you're going to be tough to beat if you can continue, continue that.
- [87:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that's a bunker mentality. It seems like they got with Alien leading the entire way. Okay, let's go to the other series. Obviously in the east, that's going to be tipping off this evening. Go ahead, Debo.
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Darius Butler
Yeah, it seems like the Knicks kind of have a bunker mentality too. If they've tapped into, I want to know kind of what is click in your opinion for them, because over the playoffs so far, 8 and 2, like an over 19 point winning margin when they run away with wins. So what is click with that squad?
- [88:08]
Iman Shumpert
Well, I think that, that the game plan is now ruined for the whole NBA that they once had on the Knicks. We once had this, this narrative in this game plan to say, hey, we're just going to pressure Jalen Brunson. We're going to make it really difficult for him. He'll wear himself out and at the end of the game, if we don't give him an available pass, he'll just dribble, dribble, dribble, and they'll have to live with the results. You no longer can do that because now they're giving the ball to Cat and then it becomes playmaking at action. What it does is it creates less dribbles for Jalen Brunson. But you start to see Jaylen Brunson is actually really good with cutting off of the ball, especially when he aggressive with his cuts because he now knows he has a willing passer in Carl Anthony Towns. I think their three point shooting goes up because you now have to sink in. If Cat gives you a quick shot fake, you now have to sink in. When he makes a drive and he's spraying out, you got a bunch of closeouts, guys are attacking closeouts out. It makes the games totally different for them. So I think that's the biggest thing that's happened. Cat becoming a playmaker now ruins your whole scouting report. So if people have a new tilt that they can do against Cat up there at the top of the key and on the sideline running that pistol action, if they have an answer for that, then we'll start to see new adjustments. But that once game plan that used to ruin the Knicks hopes every time it's out the window.
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Pat McAfee
Well, and also it feels like they're playing more players. Having the rest at this stage is obviously to going good for the New York Knicks. I, I mean what it was like a year ago I saw Jalen Brunson over there in New York at the upfronts. Yeah, they still haven't played a game since then. No, that was a year. That was a long time ago. But their big thing against the Pacers is we ran their asses off the court. Like basically we just ran them off court. Wasn't a deep enough roster. I think the B.O. now they're healthy.
- [89:49]
P.K. Subban
Healthy.
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Pat McAfee
Oh geez. They're healthy and they're rested. I mean that's a good place to be if you're. You get a bye week basically going into the conference final finals. That had to be dream come true for you Knicks fans. Bruce. Yeah, it is unbelievable. It's like night and day compared to especially 2024 where Randall was out and once OG and his hammy went down, it was like man, we, we actually only have five guys to play this game seven against the Facers at, at home. So yeah, it's a dream scenario. Obviously everything could get flipped on its head if you come out slow in. In game one and, and let the Cavs steal one here. But I'm so excited, excited for the matchups across the board.
- [90:26]
Ty Schmidt
Spider Verse Brunson Burner, of course.
- [90:28]
Pat McAfee
But then on the inside too. Mobley And Jared Allen dealing with Mitch and Cat is going to be an absolute banger. And then we'll see who ends up on on James Harden between Bridges, OG and Josh Hart. But I, I'm so fired up for the series to get started to wrap up this conversation. Last question for Imam from Ty.
- [90:47]
Ty Schmidt
Yes, Jump. I mean, you mentioned the rest and obviously the, that's important. But like, is there any worry that the Knicks might be a little bit rusty? I mean, we just saw, you know, the Cavs kind of have that really physical seven game series with the Pistons. Is there any way that the Knicks could replicate, you know, that type of physicality in practice? Like, is there any concern there that the Knicks may just be a little bit too rusty and the Cavs are coming in, you know, after a hard fought seven game series win, you know, they might have enough firepower to kind of just stay hot and, and go right from jump.
- [91:19]
Iman Shumpert
I don't think there's any way to, to mimic fully what you have to deal with when you're dealing with Spider Mitchell scoring in the array of ways that he scores. He's got a full pallet as far as what you want to see out of a score. But what I do know is that the rhythm of Donovan Mitchell and James Harden might be something to consider if they are going to steal a game. I think, I think it's going to have to be a Game 1 against the Knicks, which is going to be tough in itself just having to play in New York and deal with the energy of New York right now. Because I'm telling you now I'm here, it's warm outside and Nick fans. But coming with that rhythm and knowing that they're coming with that rhythm and trying to jump on the Knicks early may be the biggest game plan that they can go with if they're the Cavs because it's already hard to steal one on the rhythm road. But when a team's been sitting for that long, you try and catch them sleeping, you catch them if they're being sluggish or if they just overly excited and just come out with a little too much energy and you guys are already settled into a rhythm together and playing with one another and understanding where you can manufacture points and manufacture offense. I think they could control pace a little bit more if they're conscious of it. But game one is the circled game for the Cavs. If they're going to steal one, it's going to have to be now because once the Knicks get rolling, we've seen what they got do.
- [92:35]
Pat McAfee
Did you say an array of ways. That's a good bar. Yeah.
- [92:38]
Iman Shumpert
I mean, he just. Donovan, he got the little takeover, Bring it over the top. He gonna shoot it from the outside. He want to get downhill. He got the floater game. It's just. It's hard to simulate all of that in practice. I just would hope that, you know, when the Knicks do come out, they understand, though, he's going to do his scoring. The key to guarding and dealing with the cavalry is dealing with James Harden.
- [93:02]
Pat McAfee
A cluster of buckets from that guy.
- [93:03]
AJ Hawk
Yeah.
- [93:04]
Pat McAfee
All over the place.
- [93:05]
Darius Butler
Crazy.
- [93:06]
P.K. Subban
Yeah, it is.
- [93:06]
Pat McAfee
It is absurd to see what he did. I mean, he hit six moves. Yeah. And then hit a step back three, and old buddy fell. It's like, good luck. I can't wait. And then James Harden, huh?
- [93:16]
Bruce
Yeah.
- [93:17]
Pat McAfee
Oh, yeah. Huh?
- [93:17]
P.K. Subban
Yeah.
- [93:18]
Darius Butler
Maybe come back, we'll see.
- [93:21]
Iman Shumpert
When you're seeing James Harden do that, and I like to see him, he's one of those guys. It's similar to Joel and Beach. When James Harden is animated, when he's the guy that. You can see it in his eyes and he's engaged, he's looking around at his teammates, he's making them smile, he's making them feel their confidence role, he's a different player. I think that when you can catch James Harden with the big eyes and he. He's not as responsive to emotions or big moments in the game, not as many celebrations or slow mo walk off, so to speak. Home run walk off, so to speak. When he's not doing that, I. I don't see him as locked in as he once was. I love it when I see James play with emotion. The three point celebrations, it instills confidence in his team that he has control.
- [94:04]
Pat McAfee
What does this mean, aj? What's he doing when he does this? What does this.
- [94:07]
Iman Shumpert
I don't know.
- [94:07]
AJ Hawk
What do you. What do you think he's doing?
- [94:09]
Pat McAfee
I. He said stir fry or something like,
- [94:14]
Con Man
I think it was stick Fry in Game 7. He was
- [94:19]
Pat McAfee
talking about this. Hey, you're the man. We appreciate you, champ.
- [94:23]
Iman Shumpert
Man, I appreciate y'.
- [94:24]
Pat McAfee
All. Ladies and gentlemen, Iman Shumper Yon. You want to know what this means? What's everybody doing? Anybody know they're going to go as cooking, Right. Far as Spider takes, he has an array of ways.
- [94:38]
Darius Butler
I know AJ's probably seen him play in person a few times. I remember Hulkster, God rest his soul, when I asked him about him here.
- [94:44]
Pat McAfee
Smooth dude.
- [94:45]
Darius Butler
Yeah, that's exactly what he said.
- [94:46]
AJ Hawk
Yep, you're right. You're right.
- [94:48]
Pat McAfee
He did like it.
- [94:49]
Chris Paul
He did.
- [94:50]
Pat McAfee
He was wearing KD shoes.
- [94:51]
Ty Schmidt
He was.
- [94:52]
Darius Butler
What's that?
- [94:52]
Pat McAfee
What was your question, man? I see you wearing Kevin Rancher. I didn't know you're a big NBA fan. What a great question. Rest.
- [95:01]
AJ Hawk
Peace.
- [95:01]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, rest in peace.
- [95:02]
Bruce
Holster.
- [95:02]
Pat McAfee
Joining us now, ladies and gentlemen, is Amanda Might have a little bit more inside information on anything, including potentially.
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Con Man
Yeah.
- [95:11]
Pat McAfee
What are you doing, Foxy? Please show him.
- [95:13]
Ty Schmidt
Sitting there like recipes, dude.
- [95:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Joining us now, I think. I think you're gonna have to maybe embody somebody else pretty soon. Joining us is the authority of college sports as a whole, certainly of college football from college game day, ladies and gentlemen, from what appears to be a very nice place. Good for him. He's earned it. He has no idea he's there. All he is is on his phone the entire time. Ladies and gentlemen, Pete, Tammy. Wow. Whoa.
- [95:41]
Pete Thamel
The Big Ten, Pat, did not hold their annual meetings at the Des Moines Airport Marriott.
- [95:45]
Pat McAfee
I can confirm. Okay. That is unbelievable. So you're at the Big Ten annual league meeting right now, Is that right? And what's happening? I saw you guys are voting on a punt gimmick. Is that what I saw?
- [95:56]
Pete Thamel
Yeah. So you could really nerd out on this, Pat, because I know your affinity for. For the nuances of special teams, and I've learned a ton about special teams from you. There is a new punt rule. I actually had a coach explain to me at the bar using, like cups for. For everything, but it's basically an eligibility tackle guard away from the long snapper rule. And you're calling it up there. And in order to officiate the way this rule, which has been passed next year, like, you would have to declare who your tackle guards that go adjacent to the. The snapper are, and then you'd have to change their numbers and actually guys would have zip up jersey. So, you know, you stand outside. I've covered a lot of league meetings in my life. You stand outside league meetings. Hey, coaches walk out. Hey, what happened? What happened? Every coach was like, we spent 45 minutes on the punt rule, and they were 18 0. And they hate this new punt rule.
- [96:43]
AJ Hawk
So.
- [96:43]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah.
- [96:44]
Pete Thamel
Being a diligent, diligent journalist, I went to the, the, the. The punting D. Who's Kirk Ference? And asked him about it yesterday. Kirk Ference said it would be a clown show. And that is not a man who is prone to hyperbole. So there is a movement here to change this obscure, detailed, and I don't fully understand punt rule, but There was, there's conviction of that. So if you want to peak spring meetings topic, it's. It's an obscure punt rule that's in the crosshairs right now.
- [97:09]
Pat McAfee
Okay, well stay tuned.
- [97:11]
Pete Thamel
We'll see how they talk about it in the SEC meetings.
- [97:13]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll be excited to see what Sankey's thoughts are on having a zipper up new numbers. So I think there is an interesting thing that has happened, obviously the punt formation in college. Most places like 90% of places vastly different than the NFL. Obviously the rules between the NFL punt and the college punt are different. In the NFL, only two people are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage before ball is punted. Okay. So ball everybody else has to pass set backwards. Okay. Because they're only two. The outside people are the only two people that are allowed to leave the line of scrimmage to go cover before the ball gets punted. Normally about a 2.0 operation time from set. So that's, that's a two second delay. Only the Gunners are able to go in college. Everybody's allowed to go, okay, so everybody's allowed to leave the line of scrimmage as soon as the ball is snapped. It's a wide open play. Go ahead and do that. So the roll rugby type Aussie rules football type punt happens because already got people down the field. You roll to the right, you kill more time. Get the ball on the ground, you just steal it. Now some teams had been putting in their offense, leaving their offensive lineman on the field, sending in obscure punter number in there, doing the formation and kind of little trick them.
- [98:18]
Jack Hughes
Boom.
- [98:19]
Pat McAfee
We're not punting at all. We're doing this kind of in the disguise punting formation where there are some rules differences as opposed to a tight formation. So it sounds like there was maybe somebody somewhere that didn't like the gimmickiness of potentially what was coming. And so we got to change this, especially with the rule numbers. We need to let people know. But it sounds like the coaches aren't those people. So who the hell would that be then? How does this happen if the coaches are 100% against it? How does a rule get anywhere near pass? Asked who's doing the ruling?
- [98:44]
Pete Thamel
So I was told last night that this rule change was basically bred from lazy officials who didn't like having to officiate the line of scrimmage and how guys are lying. The seeds of a good rule change should not come from officials having a cumbersome process. Like, you know, it's Not Vander. A lot of
- [99:05]
Pat McAfee
we know that's not Vanderbilt. Our guy, he's big official. They need to have him in the NFL. It sounds like they need to have him talking to the Big Ten refs. Okay, let's move away from the punning logistical stuff that you're doing from paradise there with the Big Ten. Let's talk about a precedenting, press, precedential case. I think there's been others in the past though, but this one feels like a real boiling point potentially for the state of sports gambling as a society, players on the field and addiction that could potentially be helped while also integrity of the game. All kind of coming into one storyline with a future first round quarterback that was considered the number one quarterback in the transfer portal this year. Got paid a lot of money. Okay. So this is a huge ordeal. We have some developments. Pete, could you tell us what they are? Because the way Tone was kind of describing this is like it's going to be down there. Lubbock, they're going to hold the court case in the stadium. Cody Campbell's actually going to be a part of it. Can you please tell me a little bit about what we've learned? And now there is a dead, I guess again in June 22nd. How should we expect this kind of to go? Because this is a very serious, very important thing that is kind of happening right in front of our eyes for the future of sport.
- [100:17]
Pete Thamel
Yeah. In terms of on field storylines, Pat, I don't think there's a bigger one than the status and eligibility of Brendan Sorsby between now and when he'd have to declare for the supplemental draft. He's a, he was the number one player in the transfer portal. He's a top 10 player in the sport. He's a potential first round pick. He could be a potential high supplemental NFL draft pick if he does go that way. But essentially, essentially what happened yesterday was Sorsby's legal team filed a lawsuit against the NCAA for a preliminary and then permanent injunction which would allow him to play this year. And essentially there was a lot of legalese in those documents yesterday to distill this to what it is, is the NCAA actually hasn't declared anything about Brendan Sorsby yet. Tech has ruled him ineligible and then he would have to go through an intricate reinstatement process by the book. If you look at what the punishment would be for what Brendan Sorsby has admitted to do, he would not be able to play college football ever again. Like, period. So what his team is doing now is looking for clarity from the ncaa, they offered, in the legal documents, they said, they offered a two game suspension. He would come back, he would become the face of mental health for gambling. He would be an advocate, he would go talk about this. And they, they essentially pitched the NCAA on allowing Brendan Sorsby to return and having him become the face of addictive sports gambling in the country, which is a very serious problem amongst young people. The NCAA has rejected that. The tenor of the NCAA statement in response to this lawsuit yesterday indicated basically that they're gonna, they are going to run this out. They said, look, we haven't even ruled anything yet. And you know, they made it very clear that the integrity of the game, as you have said many times, Pat, you and Deba, like, it's, it's critical. Right? It's the most important thing fundamentally to athletics as we know it, the integrity of the game. So what sources his legal team appears to want to be doing with this lawsuit is getting clarity. Will he be able to play? Will he not be able to play? They need to. So that's a June 15th hearing is what they asked for in Lubbock. And he would have to declare for the supplemental draft, the legal documents say, by June 22nd. Yeah, you see, Adam obviously amplified, amplified that notion of it.
- [102:22]
Pat McAfee
She's.
- [102:22]
Pete Thamel
So essentially, if you, if you, if you cut through the legalese, it is a, it is an attempt for clarity, for decision making moving forward for Brendan Scoresby.
- [102:32]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [102:32]
Pete Thamel
It would be fascinating.
- [102:34]
Pat McAfee
Can you please explain about where this court case will be? This is, this will happen in Lubbock, Texas and the NCAA would travel down there and Sorsby and his team, which has already pitched a resolution, would once again do that to the judge and say, hey, isn't this a fair thing? Don't we all think? And then the NCAA would be forced in that moment by the judge or themselves as they're declaring whatever, to make a decision on whether or not that's right. That's what they're trying to do here.
- [103:01]
Pete Thamel
So the injunction is pretty simple and clear what they want. They basically want to say that the NCAA should have no jurisdiction over ruling on Brendan Sorsby and he would be eligible to play. Now, you are right, Pat, that, that this is, this is unprecedented for a gambling case. We've seen this with Trinidad Chambliss and we've seen, seen it started actually in West Virginia with eligibility. Like we have seen judges come in and declare and declare folks ineligible. Yeah, West Virginia, actually basketball started this whole trend of being able to go to court and getting extra years. The difference is those were sort of pure eligibility plays, be they medical red shirts or red shirts or time, you know, time in school. This, this case is drastically different because it is under the guise of gambling, which had been a fairly black and white issue issue. You know, think about Jameson Williams in the NFL, right? Like he, he bet in the facility and he was immediately suspended. And there's been others. That one just kind of comes to mind first. And there was case, Iowa, Iowa State a few years back where the, the guys who were caught gambling were punished severely. So if the NCAA were to, and we have no indication they're going to yet, but if they were to sort of negotiate something which would be a departure from how they normally operate in their enforcement process, that would clearly be a drastic change from how they've operated in the past. I'm not saying they will or won't do it. It would just be. Be a departure. I think I've said this on your show. For Brendan Sorsby to play College football in 2026, something seismic would have to happen because if he just, like, played out his NCAA case, you know, precedent would tell us he doesn't have much of a chance. So is it an injunction that seismic? How would the NCAA, the Big 12 and others respond to that injunction? Could they do anything legally, like in the chambers case, for example, in, in other eligibility cases, the judges have made clear leg, like, you cannot, you know, you cannot put any barriers to. This is. This is. I am ruling this and this is what's going to happen. Will that happen in, in Lubbock, Texas? It's probably a little too early to. To say, but certainly there is a home game element of this. They didn't file it in, you know, state court in Dallas. Right. So, I mean, I do think there is some. There is some, well, well marked cynicism there.
- [105:04]
Pat McAfee
Do we know who the judge would be at this point? Like the Internet's posting photos of the judges. We don't want to put it up. Oh, wow. Wow.
- [105:11]
P.K. Subban
Whoa.
- [105:12]
Pat McAfee
Is that the judge? Do we know if that's the judge?
- [105:16]
Pete Thamel
I have not done the judge legwork. If I'm, if I'm being very.
- [105:19]
Pat McAfee
Don't trust that that is not real. Any of the judges,
- [105:26]
Pete Thamel
if any of the judges were not Texas Tech graduates, I'd be pretty surprised in Lubbock. Just like if this was in Birmingham, they'd all probably, you know, there'd be a lot of Alabama judges. And if it was, you know, you could just pick the State. In the.
- [105:37]
Pat McAfee
In the area.
- [105:38]
Pete Thamel
Yeah. They could.
- [105:38]
Pat McAfee
Could.
- [105:39]
Pete Thamel
Yeah. I don't know if you would be. As a law school. I think they have a med school.
- [105:43]
Pat McAfee
Actually. You're wrong. The doctors. Yes. You need a surgery down there. Yeah, maybe.
- [105:47]
Con Man
Funny enough.
- [105:47]
Pat McAfee
We're going to law though, pal. That's Alabama.
- [105:50]
Ty Schmidt
Just going to double check.
- [105:52]
Pat McAfee
Kid from Plum actually graduated from Alabama. Dallas Salah Law.
- [105:56]
Bruce
He's a pizza maker.
- [105:58]
Pat McAfee
Yep. A baby boy.
- [105:59]
Con Man
Alabama's going to.
- [106:00]
Pat McAfee
We appreciate you. Good luck out there in paradise. Ladies and gentlemen. Pre table. Something seismic would have to take place for him to be able to play. Shoresby's case is certainly a quagmire for a lot of parties. It is.
- [106:12]
Darius Butler
How about him?
- [106:12]
AJ Hawk
When the seismic thing be. Sorry. Wouldn't it. It's kind of seismic that the. The judge could possibly be doing the old. Doing the old celebration with the mascot of the team with the player we don't know eligible for. I'm not saying that's real, but that would be quite seismic, wouldn't it?
- [106:26]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, that would be seismic. I do believe that would be seismic. Let's pivot away from seismic. Move in a courtroom for Brendan Shoresby, which is potentially a NFL supplemental draft guy as well. We have no idea what his future holds. What we do know is the future is very bright for a man who's about to join us. This guy's an American hero. Okay. We saw him.
- [106:43]
Darius Butler
Yep.
- [106:44]
Pat McAfee
Guy ate a stick. Yeah. Lost his teeth. Came back, beat Canada. Gave us all a gold medal. Thank God we have this man. New Jersey's devil stone star and also hockey legend forever Jackie Hughes. Look at those teeth. Holy hell. Where'd you get those?
- [107:10]
Jack Hughes
We're back, boys. At a spot in New York. We're back. We're back in action.
- [107:14]
Pat McAfee
Did you have to make a lot of decisions on what the new mouth looks like? Did you think about. Did you think about potentially drawing in what it did look like? Like maybe get a tattoo on your teeth so that we can always remember it. What a moment. Thank you for everything. Congrats on the new teeth. How's the offseason going? Because obviously the Olympics was right in the middle of your season. We talked to you just a couple days after the gold medal win at the combine and you were coming from a game already and you were heading to another game. You never really got to settle in. Have you gotten a chance to look back on the incredible run that this year was for you and where are you at right now in life, if you will? Jack Hughes.
- [107:50]
Jack Hughes
Yeah. Just been you know, know, obviously with how everything happened, happened so fast. And then now has been a great time just to, you know, debrief it all and just hang out and enjoy my life. So after the season, you know, it's a good time to just get away. I feel like, and. And debrief.
- [108:10]
Pat McAfee
I like. You're a wires guy.
- [108:12]
Ty Schmidt
Yep.
- [108:13]
Jack Hughes
Trying to save the. Save the brain.
- [108:15]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [108:17]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. He'll eat us.
- [108:18]
Jack Hughes
I felt for that trap, boys.
- [108:20]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. AJ didn't fall for that trap.
- [108:22]
Jack Hughes
AJ's got the Bluetooth on.
- [108:25]
AJ Hawk
Aaron's been telling me that for years.
- [108:27]
Pat McAfee
Exactly. The best. How old are you again, Jack?
- [108:29]
Jack Hughes
Just turned 25.
- [108:31]
Pat McAfee
Okay. So the future of the league is obviously very bright whenever you're watching these playoffs. Are you keeping up with the playoffs from your enjoyment of life right now? Yes.
- [108:39]
Jack Hughes
Yeah, I'm keeping up pretty good. Was watching, you know, obviously all the games in Minnesota, mostly because. Because Quinn just got knocked out. But feel like when I'm like sitting at home and the game's on, I feel bad for not watching it because, you know, as a fan, like, I do love watching the game and obviously the playoffs are the best.
- [108:58]
Pat McAfee
Okay, so let's talk about hockey. Showing up in a big way last night. Game seven, huge. So I don't know if you know this NBA game 7 the night before in Detroit, Cleveland Cavaliers just beat the hell out of the Pistons for four.
- [109:08]
Jack Hughes
I saw it. It was like a 40 point, 40 point game, right?
- [109:11]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah.
- [109:12]
AQ Shipley
He.
- [109:12]
Pat McAfee
This guy can't pay attention to much, but he saw the Pistons. He's from Michigan. He had to watch it. Oh, ruined game seven, though, like in our minds. Oh, no. Maybe game sevens aren't real. You know, that's what we start thinking to ourselves, that we've been lying about what game sevens are because of how lackluster that one was. And then all of a sudden, last night in Buffalo, the Canadians show up. It goes to overtime. 2022 overtime game winner. It just. Whenever you're in one of these moments or you see one of these moments and you see how fast hockey is growing in the United States of America lot because of what the Olympics did, does it make you pumped about the state of the league right now, if you will? Because I would say a lot of people.
- [109:49]
Jack Hughes
Yeah. I mean, honestly, the first thing, the first thing I take from, you know, just even that whole series. But I mean, that crowd in Buffalo is incredible.
- [109:57]
Pat McAfee
Right?
- [109:58]
Jack Hughes
You know, like, I think that place was off the hook. They were down, what, two, nothing early. And then when they got that first one and then when Dolly and scored, you know, the roof kind of popped off. So the crowds were making it so special. And then on top of that, you know, guys are given 110% every night and it's sick. Like if you watch that goal, the celebration is right beside the penalty box camera and you can hear the guys in the huddle like how happy they sound at 1:1 and overtime and it's like just a bunch of boys getting after it and they're so fired up their. Their season still going on.
- [110:31]
Pat McAfee
Love that. The lads.
- [110:32]
Jack Hughes
You'll see it. You'll see it on the selly when they get going and you got to listen to them. It's. It's just sick.
- [110:38]
Pat McAfee
Do we have sound wins game seven. Alex, new hook.
- [110:48]
P.K. Subban
That's sick.
- [110:50]
Jack Hughes
Moving, you know.
- [110:51]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Because you can really tell in there. That's like for our sport. Whenever we watch miked ups and obviously they're so heavily edited. We try to see interactions to see if the team actually likes each other. What you're saying you saw right there is like, the lads are super excited. To still be playing hockey with each other is very obvious.
- [111:05]
Jack Hughes
Well, it's just like, yeah, boys, we're moving on, let's go like on we go. And that's sick. Like that their season keeps going and obviously they're so excited. I'm sure the mic'd up in football can't be that good because, you know, they gotta blur out everything. Pretty much, Pretty much the same in hockey too.
- [111:21]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. The league kind of, kind of decides, you know, what we're gonna see, what we're not gonna see for you guys. It's been pretty tight for a long time. Time feels like hockey is having a massive explosion. Hey, how come away games aren't a real thing for you guys? PK came on our show because we were talking about Montreal's barn, we're talking about Buffalo's barn. And obviously Colorado is going to go crazy in Vegas. We've been a part of that situation. We asked pk, we're like, hey, how do you. How do they handle going in these places and everything? Stats and PK were like, nah, these lads now, they don't care about anything. They just go in there and they play hockey. And then obviously that's Montreal winning on the road and Buffalo won on the road. The second stats have been saying that the road teams are having more success. Why is that? Are you guys just like serial killer mindset? Do you feed off of the energy from the other team? Why do you think that is kind of becoming the case? I don't know.
- [112:06]
Jack Hughes
I think it's hard to say. You know, it depends on each series, each team. I mean, Montreal, you got to. You know, every road team that goes into Montreal is so juiced up because the Bell center is a unbelievable atmosphere. So, I mean, it'll be interesting. Like, Montreal is a good example. Carolina has probably the hardest rink to play in, just with the fans and the way they play. And, you know, Montreal is a good, exciting, young team, and obviously their arena rocks pretty good. So that'll be a fun series. And then, I don't know, Colorado Vegas is going to be a dog fight, too.
- [112:39]
Pat McAfee
Dude, the Kacs are going to be so pumped to hear what you just said. Hey, they're going to be so.
- [112:43]
Jack Hughes
Yeah, like, I. I really do hate to give them that, but it is a rocking spot and, you know, they get after it in that building. Building.
- [112:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And old buddy's friends from Manitoba are down there. Boys from Manitoba are going absolutely bananas in there. Go ahead, aj.
- [112:57]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, Jack, I'm just curious. You yourself, personally, what's it been like? I guess we saw you, I don't know, Three, four, five days after you win the gold medal, and it was all. It was all happening so quickly. You go right back into your regular season, I guess. What was the rest of the season like for you, playing all those games after that? And then what's it like now? Is. Is your life different than it was six months ago?
- [113:17]
Jack Hughes
Yeah, I mean, it's. That was the best thing for me is just playing because, you know, it was the only real time I had, you know, unconnected, you could say, where I was just solely with my thoughts, and I'm working on my game and trying to, you know, perform. Every other time, you're like, your phone's around or you're talking to people, and you're not just, you know, having that quiet time for yourself. So. Especially with how fast everything came. Now was best thing for me is just keep playing. And now, obviously, it's pretty fun. The off season can hang your hat on that for a little while. And just, you know, I've met so many people that are so happy and proud of us and, you know, you get all the. All the good stuff, so not many.
- [113:58]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, yeah. It's been good to be an American hero. Sports center is next. We'll continue digitally. Okay, great. Out by you. I don't know if you saw the clock. I assume you did, with your awareness because of who you are. And your Jack Hughes. I heard you. I assume you saw that. Great work there on giving a real answer while getting out of the way here as we send it to SportsCenter show still continues right now on YouTube x Disney plus ESPN plus. We're just off ESPN linear. Okay, so what you just did there, professional TV stuff.
- [114:27]
Jack Hughes
I zoned out for you boys.
- [114:29]
Pat McAfee
He did great. You did some professional TV shit. Especially with those bright white, white choppers too. Oh, you know, because we can see every word that's coming out there. You know what I mean? We can kind of see it. And I appreciate your transparent about like, yeah, life is pretty good. As an American hero, I've, I've been coming to learn. I mean, it is a.
- [114:45]
Jack Hughes
You said it, Pat. You said it.
- [114:50]
Pat McAfee
All right. We got some questions for you. We appreciate you taking time out of your life. Go ahead, Debo.
- [114:54]
Darius Butler
Jack, when do you start ramping back up? I guess physically, obviously, you're taking time.
- [114:58]
Iman Shumpert
Time.
- [114:58]
Darius Butler
You talk about debriefing. I know you guys put your body, especially this season for you. When do you start ramping things back up and getting back on the skates?
- [115:07]
Jack Hughes
Yeah, like, I'm working out already just because, you know, we're pushing our body to the max all year. And then you go two weeks of not moving, really, and you get stir crazy. So we're moving, but getting skating, probably middle of June, July. Ish. You know, know, I. I'm a guy that when I get going, I want to be hungry. You know, I want to like, be ready to roll. And I'm like. Because then when I start, I won't stop. So I don't want to just like go out there to do it. To do it. I want to, you know, be fresh. And when I'm really ready to start, I'm ready to get after it.
- [115:40]
Pat McAfee
What is getting after it? Are we going blue line to blue line? Just sprints every day. Are we on pond?
- [115:44]
Jack Hughes
No.
- [115:45]
Pat McAfee
What are we doing?
- [115:46]
Jack Hughes
Is that, Is that how it works in your head? That's what you think? We're just bag skiing all of a sudden?
- [115:50]
Pat McAfee
I do. I think you guys are getting. I think you're out there and I think you're even doing like the, the, the Olympic sprinter toe thing. And I think you guys are just. 4:30am explosion around and then he stops.
- [116:03]
Jack Hughes
That's actually exactly what we do. Yeah, that's it.
- [116:06]
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you, I would never be able to accomplish that feat. You and the wrestlers, you guys are the wrestlers. I'm that the wrestlers in High school, just wearing garbage bags, walking home. We got cars, boys. We got rides home if we want. They're doing that. And then, you guys, early morning scare. Just a nightmare situation. You're young, though, so you can still feel it, you know, you're still young out there. You know, you're a young lad living great life right now. A great life right now. Think about him saying, I want to get back hungry in there. Yeah, listen, I'm gonna live a little here.
- [116:38]
Ty Schmidt
There's plenty of time for that, okay?
- [116:40]
Pat McAfee
And when that ice comes calling, which it will, I will be 100% fucking ready for it. Obviously, a lot of great hockey happening right now. We assume you're enjoying that, especially with the family recently exiting, going, go ahead, con man.
- [116:52]
Con Man
Yeah, Jackie, you mentioned watching Quinn, and it was unbelievable watching him for us, you know, let him know that job well done. Even though they fell a little short against the Avalanche. But with the Avalanche, what is their deal? Why are they so good? Do they just have more nail guns than everybody else? Do they have the most skill? Are they just. They turn everybody into squids as soon, as, you know, they step on the ice against the other team? Like, what is the situation? And should we just assume they are going to go all the way and hoist the.
- [117:18]
Pat McAfee
The Cup?
- [117:21]
Jack Hughes
Yeah, I mean, they obviously have a special team this year. I think Nate McKinnon is, you know, he's on another level. He's been on another level the last bunch of years. And when you have a guy carrying the mail like him, you know, it drives your team up the mountain. And on top of that, you know, Makar, Nik, Nelson, Kadri, they're just a crazy deep team. I think they had 16 guys that scored in the second round for them off their. Off their team. So when you have 16 guys chipping in, you know, obviously everyone's doing their thing. And when you have 16 guys scoring goals, getting on the score sheet, just, you know, it shows how deep you are. And I think they just do a good job of rolling teams over. They're so fast. Obviously, they're a confident team, and, you know, they're driven by great players, but just an extremely deep, deep roster, too.
- [118:09]
Pat McAfee
Carrying the mail out there. These nail guns just kind of do that.
- [118:13]
Con Man
Oh, yeah, yeah.
- [118:13]
Pat McAfee
Squids don't really carry the mail much. It seems like kind of the problem, the male gets kind of left behind like the old days.
- [118:19]
Bruce
Your.
- [118:19]
Pat McAfee
Your brother was doing some real out there. It felt like your brother was driving the game. Hey, it was fun.
- [118:23]
Jack Hughes
That's the thing, though, Yeah, I mean, that whole division was on another level this year. I think, you know, three of maybe the four best teams in the league could have been out of that division with Dallas, Minnesota and Colorado. So just a. A dog fight for them getting out of that, you know, first two rounds, firstly. And now they got Vegas, another, you know, unreal team.
- [118:46]
Pat McAfee
Hey, your brother's funny. He's unbelievable. Watching him skate around. I mean, he's like skating circles. The skating's outrageous. Obviously, I. I don't know how.
- [118:54]
Jack Hughes
Oh, he's a complete beast. And I think he was playing like 31 minutes a night. Like, he's. He's a beast. One of the best in the league for a reason. But, you know, just as a fan, like, I went to Minnesota for two games, and I had so much fun just watching him do his thing. So he's, you know, one of the most fun guys to watch, I think, in the league.
- [119:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, definitely. I mean, that back skating.
- [119:19]
Jack Hughes
Well said. That's how we say it to the back skate and stuff.
- [119:22]
Pat McAfee
Thank you. I feel like I am kind of maybe becoming a nail gun this entire thing, you know, I'm trying. Is this the one? Yeah. Heat. There it is. Go ahead and back that up. See? Yeah, it does whatever he wants.
- [119:35]
Jack Hughes
Yeah.
- [119:35]
AJ Hawk
Cool.
- [119:35]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. And also immediately afterwards, we'll go, hey, one more of these. Another one. And when I'm done with this. When I'm done with this one, I need another one. Be like another one to be replaced in here, too. Okay. The boys just did something sweet. We'd like to celebrate. That's why I think we love the hockey culture so much. We appreciate the out of you, Jack. Keep living your life, buddy. We'll talk to you soon.
- [119:55]
Jack Hughes
Thanks, Pat.
- [119:56]
Pat McAfee
No problem, man. Hey, you're all right your whole life. Super public. How's that going? Good?
- [120:03]
Jack Hughes
Yeah, it's going okay. Yeah.
- [120:06]
Con Man
This guy.
- [120:07]
Pat McAfee
What a nail gun.
- [120:08]
Ty Schmidt
This guy.
- [120:09]
Pat McAfee
Love it. Gentlemen.
- [120:09]
P.K. Subban
Jack.
- [120:13]
Pat McAfee
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- [121:33]
Pat McAfee
I will say it. And this is. It was never. It's nowhere near negative. This is a positive.
- [121:41]
Jack Hughes
Okay.
- [121:42]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Jack Hughes was supposed to be on the show about ten times, and they. Sorry, can't say. He's got that. We got this. That. It's like, jack, go do that. Legit hero. Legit, actually.
- [121:56]
Bruce
Good kid.
- [121:57]
Pat McAfee
And then the Olympics happen. And then he's right back into the season.
- [122:00]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
- [122:01]
Pat McAfee
And it's like, all right. Yeah. Now you got to carry the torch of America every single night. So let's go ahead and do well. And then the season ends. Obviously not the way that he or the New Jersey Devils had wanted it. Not that it would have mattered here with what's going on in the playoffs, it seems like. But then you finally get a chance, like, sit down and somebody comes up to you, like, hi, my name is Hook. Whoever. Congrats on what you did there. He's like, oh, thanks. You were watching. Yeah, we were all watching. Why don't you come this way? Actually, we got every opportunity in the world for you right here. We've been waiting on. It's like, that's exactly what he should be doing. But it has been funny to kind of watch, like, New American Hero and kind of like from outside in very outside, like, watching it kind of happen. It's like, good for him. Great for hockey. If he becomes super, super face piece of this entire.
- [122:44]
AQ Shipley
Yep.
- [122:44]
Chris Paul
Yeah.
- [122:45]
Pat McAfee
New. New teeth, too.
- [122:46]
Ty Schmidt
Looks good, kid. Looks good.
- [122:48]
Pat McAfee
Good tan. New tea.
- [122:50]
Bruce
Her team, you say, could use them right now.
- [122:54]
Ty Schmidt
He only plays in the big ones.
- [122:56]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, well, they say these ones are the big ones because these are the ones that Sydney Crosby made the big ones. And I don't know if you know this, the Canadians are taking a whole victory lap right now.
- [123:06]
Jack Hughes
Say, well, he's not even. The captain.
- [123:07]
Pat McAfee
Just said he had four apples.
- [123:08]
Chris Paul
That was all.
- [123:09]
Bruce
That's cuz Macklin, the prince. That was Promised.
- [123:12]
Pat McAfee
Who cares?
- [123:13]
Con Man
We're talking about the Stanley Cups going on right now. World Championships. You mean where the losers in the playoffs go to play? Okay.
- [123:21]
Chris Paul
Matthew Kachak playing or no?
- [123:22]
Pat McAfee
How many Bruins are in there?
- [123:24]
Con Man
I don't know. Hopefully none. Hopefully they're all together, practicing as one. I actually do believe Jimbo Higgins is. There's a few. There's a few. Praise regimenting.
- [123:36]
Pat McAfee
I like that they do. Like they care. Like this. There was some. Where they're all lined up getting player of the game thing that it feels
- [123:43]
Bruce
like instead being doing this after 20 years, whatever.
- [123:46]
Pat McAfee
And his dad's there.
- [123:47]
Iman Shumpert
Crazy.
- [123:48]
Pat McAfee
His dad's there. Why it feels like the World Championship. If you grow up in that hockey culture, it does become something that really matters. And if not, since, trying to make it matter. Is this how everybody has acted from Canada with these world championships, Gumpy? Yeah, it's kind of well known.
- [124:01]
Iman Shumpert
If you can play, play, you do. Go play.
- [124:02]
Pat McAfee
All the legends try and get there if they can. And Sydney Crosby's just, like, making sure that everybody understands that this is how this goes. Hey, next generation. Like, we play in this if we have to. Even if you're 55 years old, like I am, Gumps. Is that what happens?
- [124:17]
Iman Shumpert
Yeah, absolutely.
- [124:18]
Pat McAfee
And that's. You would know. Gumps. You. You rubbed this. I thought you.
- [124:20]
Chris Paul
I thought.
- [124:21]
P.K. Subban
I thought.
- [124:21]
Pat McAfee
I thought you were making that statement.
- [124:22]
Iman Shumpert
I just said he had four apples.
- [124:24]
Chris Paul
But I digress.
- [124:25]
Ty Schmidt
He.
- [124:26]
Pat McAfee
He didn't want to be kidding. Captain, that was a false report. That was bad reporting there. And I'm glad you're an insider now, because I don't think that would have happened if you reported the news. Not under my watch. Yeah, he gave up the captaincy because he went late and everyone didn't know that he was gone.
- [124:39]
Bruce
He loves Macklin.
- [124:40]
Chris Paul
Yes.
- [124:40]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, well, he didn't want to step on any toes. But then Macklin also said, like, no,
- [124:44]
Ty Schmidt
said should be captain.
- [124:46]
Pat McAfee
And the equipment manager was like, I can definitely switch easy. I can easily if you want. And Sid said no.
- [124:55]
Bruce
I think he knows he's the next one.
- [124:57]
Con Man
This shit's dumb, okay? I would trade a hundred world championships for one Olympic gold medal. So that's kind of how you know it's dumb.
- [125:07]
Jack Hughes
Yeah.
- [125:08]
Pat McAfee
Listen to me, American football fan.
- [125:13]
AJ Hawk
I know.
- [125:14]
AQ Shipley
I freaking know.
- [125:16]
Pat McAfee
Let's talk about American football. Jacoby Briss set. Not at first voluntary OTAs. Pay that Cardinal. Aaron Rogers. At first voluntary OTAs for Pittsburgh Steelers. What was stealing all the conversation, Aaron? What was nobody nationally really talking about at all? Jacoby Brissette, starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. I believe he's getting less money than maybe Carson Beck is getting as like a third round draft pick for or definitely fourth round or fifth round draft pick, whatever it is. Jacoby Brissette's deal, I guess is nowhere near what a quarterback that would be starting games in the NFL would be in Jacoby Brissette. Allegedly. I mean, I guess the absence here would be able to describe it a little bit more accurately. Allegedly looking for a little bit of a pay boost here if you're 1000%. Yeah, if you're going to want me to be a quarterback here for the Arizona Cardinals. You guys didn't really address the fact you don't bring a in a vet. Is Carson going to be your starting quarterback? Is that how you're going to do it entire thing? Or are you going to give me a little bit of money, make this a little bit fair as we guide into this new era in Arizona. We happen to have a very close source in Arizona who's a color commentator for them who might be able to give us a little bit more color commentary on the situation with Jacoby Brissette and the Arizona Cardinals. Ladies and gentlemen, AQ Shipley. Thank you. I appreciate you coming to us live from here.
- [126:38]
Con Man
Your left. There it is.
- [126:39]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, no left.
- [126:40]
AQ Shipley
There it is.
- [126:41]
Pat McAfee
Mike Tirico was able to figure it out. Okay. Was his second time on the show. I think you'll be able to do it as well. Jacoby Brissette. Okay. In this situation, looking for more money from the Arizona Cardinals as he is probably going to be the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. As a person that was around this Cardinals team last year, whenever Jacoby got brought in there obviously not a lot of wins. Okay. There wasn't a lot of wins for this Arizona Cardinals team, but it felt like Jacoby was highly respected around the locker room. How are you guys viewing this right now as a city over there? And what do you think is going to inevitably happen around Jacoby Brissette?
- [127:11]
AQ Shipley
Aq yeah, the draft just happened. So obviously everybody's excited about Carson Beck. But listen, he's the guy. Jacoby Brissette is the guy. The minute that he went into the game last year in place of Kyler Murray, he injected a new energy into this offense and they started to look like an efficient offense early. It was just Kyler was just playing backyard football, just trying to get it to two guys. It was Marvin Harrison Jr. A trip, Trey McBride. And the minute that he stepped in you saw an efficient offense take over. You saw them start to move the ball. You saw Michael Wilson start to take off and become really the number one. And now you started to see all these different guys, different pieces of the puzzle. As you know, with a play, it can go to five different guys, four different guys. It's not just two guys. So whenever you saw him running the play, action, pass back, foot, hit the ground, ball out on top time to numerous different people, all of a sudden it was like, okay, that's what an offense is supposed to look like. And that team fell in love with Jacoby in the locker room.
- [128:16]
Pat McAfee
He is currently set to earn $5.4 million this season with another 2 million of playing time incentives available. So if he's a starting quarterback, let's assume that's $7.4 million. Spotrek saying about 4 million off. About 4 million off there. Unbelievable treatment of Jacoby here from Spotrack, who we have massive respect for. I wanted Jacoby to win an MVP whenever he was starting for the Colts. Now, that was like six quarterbacks ago, for sure. But I think Jacobe Parcells, I believe, is one of his mentors. Obviously comes up through Bill Belichick, Tom Brady era. I think everybody describes him as an incredible leader. Obviously, the team likes him. You're saying this guy understands what's going on in every single play. How do you think this ends up working out? You think the Cardinals end up giving him a pay boost in his new lafleur era? Do you think they cut bait and start brand new with everything out there? They lost the schedule release, allegedly. They lost the draft team's ass. Everybody says that they're asking everything. Would you want a veteran quarterback to be leading the way, or do they potentially just think about moving forward? How do you kind of see what Arizona does here?
- [129:16]
AQ Shipley
I mean, listen, you can't sit here and win three games again. So if you think that Jacobe is the best option to get you to at least least improve, we got to see improvement. We got to go this way. You got a new coach. You went and got a guy from the McVeigh Shanahan world that you're expecting that you can do more with less, right? So they obviously can't put together the full conglomerate of talent and roster that they want because of what they're paying a guy in Minnesota right now. So you have to take what you can. You got to give this guy a little bit of a pay bump. I think it's speaks volumes what he did last year. Michael Wilson had 50 yards receiving in the first five or six weeks of the season. He takes over at quarterback and all of a sudden he's a thousand yard receiver and, and a budding star.
- [130:01]
Pat McAfee
23 touchdowns, eight interceptions in 14 games for Jacoby Brissette last year he played.
- [130:06]
Con Man
He played 14 games.
- [130:07]
Darius Butler
Yeah, yeah. And McBride, you know, if you look at his numbers with kyler, I know
- [130:13]
Pat McAfee
three lost a lot of games. I mean, games started. 12.
- [130:18]
AQ Shipley
Listen, here's the deal. Whenever, whenever Kyler was in a quarterback, everything was get the ball out quick or try and play backyard and eventually maybe get it downfield. When he took over a quarterback, the ball got pushed down the field. Whether it was to McBride, whether it was to Wilson or whether it was to Marvin Harrison Jr. We were done with this quick little short game and we were done with the.
- [130:40]
Pat McAfee
Okay, this is the color commentator sick of what the other. Hey, listen, we won three games, but at least it was a fucking NFL offense.
- [130:47]
AQ Shipley
It wasn't an NFL offense.
- [130:48]
Pat McAfee
That's what he's saying right now. That and he's thinking that maybe Jacoby gets another opportunity at this thing with a new coach. But on that note, D. But has a question. Yeah.
- [130:55]
Darius Butler
McBride talked about his career year, not only with touchdowns, but every game. He had at least five catches for. I don't know what streak he was on. But how does it, how does Jacobe's game fit into this new offense? Obviously they went and got Jeremiah Love, who I think was the best player in the draft. You think Marvin Harrison, maybe he takes a step this year, but how does he look in this offense? As fit, far as fit wise.
- [131:17]
AQ Shipley
Yeah, I think, I think going with Jacobe first. Right. I think he fits this offense well because it's a timing offense. I think that's what west coast offenses are. When you look at Shanahan's offense, when you look at McVeigh's offense, when you watch Matthew Stafford player Brock purdy play, it's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, back foot hits the ground, balls out to a spot reference, right? It's the same thing. Matthew Stafford's looking at the sideline thrown over the middle because he knows the timing of where it's supposed to be, right? And so when you think about that, Jacoby Brissette's not gonna extend plays. He's not gonna run the football. He's a pocket passer. And I think if you can get him in a timing rhythm and get the ball out like that play right there, that's exactly who he is. He's Good at the play action. He's good at sitting in a pocket and letting his back foot at the ground and letting that throw thing go down the middle of the field.
- [132:05]
Pat McAfee
People are saying, I saw a tweet, had a lot of views saying Jacoby Brissette holding the Arizona Cardinals hostage has to be the worst for Arizona. Yeah, it's the sign of the end. Yeah. But I don't think he's holding him hostage. I think he's saying, hey, can we get. Come on, we have a little bit respect to your. Come on, I'm about to go do my thing. Hopefully gets the opportunity. And we'll certainly call you if any other Arizona Cardinals news comes out. Aq.
- [132:25]
AQ Shipley
Hey, let me. Let me say one more thing. We also got three really good backs.
- [132:28]
Iman Shumpert
You got.
- [132:29]
AQ Shipley
Got James Connor, Algier, and obviously the new guy in Jeremiah Love. Right. You can just lean on those guys. Making a run heavy offense. You got a pretty good offensive line returning and then just let him throw a 10 to 15 game. That's a pretty good recipe for success.
- [132:44]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Especially with the good running backs. You can get them sucked up. Pretty good sucked up. And Jacobi's not scared to do a high. Suck him up in there. And then who's. Who's right behind that? Oh, that's McBride.
- [132:54]
Ty Schmidt
That's right.
- [132:55]
AJ Hawk
Can you say let him throw 10 or 15 times? What is this, the Iowa Hawkeyes offense?
- [132:59]
AQ Shipley
That seems like, hey, listen, I'll take that. Let's control the football. Let's pound the rock. Let's suck them up. Suck them up.
- [133:06]
Pat McAfee
Hit him behind.
- [133:06]
AQ Shipley
That's all you gotta do.
- [133:07]
Pat McAfee
Are we gonna pay that? You think they're gonna pay? Would they?
- [133:11]
Con Man
Yeah.
- [133:11]
Pat McAfee
That's gonna be tough. I think to sell, you gotta try
- [133:14]
Con Man
out Gardner or Carson.
- [133:16]
Bruce
Nope.
- [133:16]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, Carson.
- [133:20]
AQ Shipley
I think I'll take my. Have chances with Jacobe.
- [133:22]
Pat McAfee
Yeah.
- [133:22]
AQ Shipley
Yeah.
- [133:23]
Pat McAfee
How much money you give him? 15 foot six. He's tall. He's very tall. He's great leader.
- [133:28]
Con Man
I win seven instead of three.
- [133:30]
Pat McAfee
Oh, geez. That'd be huge.
- [133:32]
Con Man
That'd be huge.
- [133:33]
Pat McAfee
Thank you, Shipley. Thank you, baby.
- [133:36]
AJ Hawk
Wouldn't be so bad.
- [133:37]
Pat McAfee
I mean, I started out with. Hey, you still there, aq?
- [133:41]
AJ Hawk
Of course, yeah.
- [133:42]
Pat McAfee
See what happened at the rookie premiere.
- [133:44]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, man.
- [133:46]
Pat McAfee
Go ahead. Not one.
- [133:47]
AQ Shipley
I don't know my readers on who.
- [133:49]
Con Man
Who are all those people?
- [133:49]
Pat McAfee
I'll tell you what they're not. Who are they?
- [133:53]
AQ Shipley
Any Arizona Cardinals in there?
- [133:55]
Con Man
Jeremiah Love, front left.
- [133:56]
AQ Shipley
There he is right there. Front and left. I see him.
- [133:58]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, but you notice that much Girth in there.
- [134:00]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You see anything else?
- [134:02]
AQ Shipley
No linemen.
- [134:04]
Pat McAfee
Not one. Not a single lineman invited.
- [134:07]
AQ Shipley
Drew Aller's in there though. Good thing they signed Aaron Rodgers.
- [134:13]
Pat McAfee
All right, that. What do you think? That's your takeaway? That's your takeaway.
- [134:20]
Darius Butler
We are.
- [134:21]
Bruce
Yeah.
- [134:22]
Chris Paul
Yeah.
- [134:24]
AQ Shipley
Got other quarterbacks there. You got Drew Aller and Will Howard. What are we doing? Pittsburgh. What? Diggs. What are we doing?
- [134:30]
Pat McAfee
What are you talking about? Mason Rudolph also there. I mean, what are you doing? Yeah. What is your take here? You want Drew holler to get a little. Get his opportunity to shine or you saying I don't know.
- [134:39]
Con Man
Yeah.
- [134:39]
Bruce
Is he talk. Does he want Drew to start or
- [134:41]
Pat McAfee
is he doesn't want.
- [134:42]
Bruce
Talking about a practice squad quarterback.
- [134:44]
AQ Shipley
I'm not sure what they're doing with the quarterback position over there. You got. Mason Rudolph's been there for what, 10 years. You got Drew Aller and you got Will Howard. Why? Why aren't we giving these guys a look? I don't want to ever give them a look.
- [134:54]
Pat McAfee
What are you talking about?
- [134:56]
Con Man
Trade for Jacobe.
- [134:57]
Bruce
Trying to win football.
- [134:57]
Darius Butler
He's out on air.
- [134:58]
Pat McAfee
It sounds like it. You what? You don't want them to go for it right now? Did you see Mike McCarthy? Aaron, Roger, like good old days, having a laugh on practice field. Who would have thought?
- [135:07]
AQ Shipley
I think he said a quick release. I saw that quick release again.
- [135:09]
Bruce
Hell yeah. You did?
- [135:10]
Chris Paul
Yeah.
- [135:11]
Darius Butler
Oh, okay.
- [135:12]
Bruce
That's PC Big Mike's putting all the offensive linemen in the places that they played in college. I love that move. That feels like good news.
- [135:18]
AQ Shipley
Troy Fatano over to the left side. Boys, we like it.
- [135:21]
Bruce
Mace McCormick to the left side. He played 3,000 snaps there in college. Why would we play him there in professional? God, I love this new coaching staff.
- [135:29]
Pat McAfee
See?
- [135:30]
AQ Shipley
Hey, I love that offensive line coach. When we met him, Campy happy.
- [135:34]
AJ Hawk
James Camping.
- [135:35]
AQ Shipley
He was awesome. Jari.
- [135:36]
Pat McAfee
He had a lot.
- [135:37]
AQ Shipley
J was awesome.
- [135:38]
Pat McAfee
Campy had a lot of great vibes. It looked like he was. Yeah. What do you think Aaron and coach Mike McCarthy were saying there? It was definitely a. Look at this. You. Could you imagine us doing this right now, 15 years ago? Off, Jag off.
- [135:50]
Ty Schmidt
Probably said something like that and then.
- [135:52]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. You guys want? Yeah.
- [135:53]
Pete Thamel
Yeah.
- [135:55]
AJ Hawk
Who the ear.
- [135:57]
AQ Shipley
What kind of offense you think they're going to run? You think they're going to go back to what they ran in Green Bay? Same exact.
- [136:01]
Pat McAfee
My house is right over there. Really?
- [136:03]
Ty Schmidt
What do you think?
- [136:04]
Con Man
Jordy's.
- [136:04]
Bruce
I'm living in my parents basement.
- [136:06]
Pat McAfee
You wouldn't believe It. There's a chance that is the conversation. And Aaron said, why don't we just call the right. Hey, why don't we just call the right play here, okay? You know, just.
- [136:16]
Ty Schmidt
Hey, take it easy.
- [136:17]
Pat McAfee
I am calling.
- [136:18]
Bruce
He threw Pitman two out of four passes. Take that information for what you want.
- [136:22]
Pat McAfee
I think it was two out of five, actually. You try to sauce it a little bit to make it sound even better. I do respect that. Appreciate you doing that. But Pittman is a dog. We are big fans of his. The fact that he left Indianapolis, I do not love. I think that is the type of guy you'd like to have in your locker room. Personally, I think him and Aaron will fall in love with each other. DK Metcalf team.
- [136:40]
AQ Shipley
Yep.
- [136:40]
Pat McAfee
Not a single word has been mentioned about DK Metcalf.
- [136:43]
Bruce
And apparently Jeremy Bernard is just blowing the doors off people.
- [136:46]
Pat McAfee
You talk about Jeremy? Yeah.
- [136:49]
Con Man
Someone tell Boo two of the four balls receivers for your fantasy team this year.
- [136:53]
Pat McAfee
Oh, I'm sorry.
- [136:54]
AQ Shipley
Who's the running back?
- [136:55]
Pat McAfee
Oh, I don't know.
- [136:56]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, man.
- [136:57]
Bruce
Rico Doddle and Jalen Ward.
- [136:59]
Pat McAfee
Heard of them? Ever heard of them? That's right.
- [137:01]
AJ Hawk
That's right.
- [137:02]
Pat McAfee
Freaking took over the league. Okay, let's see, let's see.
- [137:05]
Bruce
Ever hear of Mount Washington?
- [137:06]
Pat McAfee
How about Muth?
- [137:07]
Bruce
Oh, that's a one, two punch you'll never see coming.
- [137:09]
Pat McAfee
Darnell looks like he is full mountain right now.
- [137:14]
AQ Shipley
3:15.
- [137:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Yeah. Which is obviously a problem for defenses. Okay, let's go to the other side of the box because it seems like you wanted to be next negative about the Pittsburgh Steelers trying to win right now. Isn't that what it sounded like there, Tone? Yeah, a little Joe Dinardones coming out of here. I'm hearing that. Just a natural hatred for the home.
- [137:28]
Bruce
Other side of the ball. We finally have a DC without football.
- [137:30]
AQ Shipley
I start to get angry.
- [137:31]
Ty Schmidt
I'm sorry.
- [137:32]
Pat McAfee
I apologize. No, I understand. But we're talking about football and you're still angry. And I think, you know, there.
- [137:35]
AQ Shipley
There was a long time to September, boys. Long time.
- [137:38]
Pat McAfee
114 days. We're trying to tell you. Yeah, I was keeping up with the.
- [137:41]
AQ Shipley
I was keeping up with the USGA amateur four ball scores this morning.
- [137:45]
Pat McAfee
That's what I'm watching.
- [137:48]
Ty Schmidt
How was it?
- [137:49]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Who would you should we track?
- [137:50]
AQ Shipley
It's tough. I mean, Drew Stoltz and Drew Kittleson, they're the guys. Drew Kittleson played in the 2008 U.S. open. That's. That's where we're at.
- [138:00]
Pat McAfee
You're the best, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you.
- [138:02]
Con Man
Ship Miss that guy.
- [138:05]
Pat McAfee
Four ball. PGA qualifiers. What a life.
- [138:09]
AJ Hawk
Drew Stoltz. That's old Stolze and Nolte from didn't it.
- [138:13]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, I assume. Yeah. There had to be some sort of tie. I think he's. They're probably guys or Arizona guys.
- [138:19]
Bruce
Yeah.
- [138:19]
Con Man
Yeah.
- [138:20]
Darius Butler
Y. Thunderbirds.
- [138:21]
Bruce
No, he's on.
- [138:22]
Pat McAfee
He's on Sunday call for saying the name. Yeah, he's good. I think he's good also.
- [138:27]
Bruce
He's critical. I like. Which I kind of enjoy sometimes.
- [138:29]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, he'll say some stuff. Back to calling crossover. And Reggie were good with three.
- [138:35]
Bruce
Oh, yeah.
- [138:35]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah.
- [138:35]
Bruce
Agreed.
- [138:36]
Pat McAfee
I. I think Crawford agreement. Agreed. Was good. Bruce did not think.
- [138:41]
P.K. Subban
Oh, wow.
- [138:42]
AQ Shipley
Wow.
- [138:42]
Pat McAfee
What Bruce just gave. Well, no, Reggie's great. Reggie's great. We're not doing last stuff that's fake. We're all good.
- [138:50]
Bruce
You know why? Yeah.
- [138:51]
Pat McAfee
It's a new year. No, he doesn't make it about himself at all. He totally lets the player shine and doesn't make it all about Reggie Miller himself.
- [138:57]
Bruce
Sounds like a Knicks fan.
- [138:59]
Pat McAfee
Jeez, Bruce.
- [139:01]
Darius Butler
I don't like three.
- [139:01]
Pat McAfee
I don't think that was the case at all. Three people.
- [139:04]
P.K. Subban
Booth.
- [139:04]
Pat McAfee
Are tough. Mike Tirico can balance it off, obviously. Which is. Which is sweet. But the NBA playoffs, obviously. NCL playoffs are great. Da. NFL's cooking award season. You know, I was just at an award.
- [139:14]
Ty Schmidt
Oh, yeah.
- [139:15]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Did you hear? I went to an award show the other day. Aj.
- [139:18]
AJ Hawk
It looks pretty awesome. Sitting next to Blake Shelton. Yeah.
- [139:21]
Pat McAfee
And Riley Green. People are saying maybe we're me and Riley Green.
- [139:24]
Con Man
What people said that?
- [139:25]
Pat McAfee
Well, a lot of people are saying, you know, Riley. Riley's in the middle. Everything he does. I guess I'm learning from the Internet is they're trying to figure out who Riley Leaf. He's got his eyes on who's his love entry. A lot of eyes are on him. Maybe that's. Maybe it's a baby. We had a great time. I. I'll tell you, I had a blast at that thing. We had a great table. I. I don't know what other tables were like. We had a blast. Awards can be fun. You know, he won music event alongside Ella Langley for a song that he wrote back to back years. They kind of win that thing. Had an absolute blast. He gets that trophy. It's. It means something. You know, that trophy means something. You put that up in the studio. You put that up maybe in the bathroom so you can see it when you got your pants. Yep.
- [140:08]
Darius Butler
Did you get eyes on that award.
- [140:12]
Pat McAfee
I did not. But it sounded like a lot of people had eyes on it and it was right. Ladies and gentlemen, we have some bad news about awards. Jackson Smith in Jigba, wide receiver for the Seattle Seahawks. Hawks true sensation, a Super bowl champion, an absolute stud who won, you know, the offense player of the Year at the NFL Honors Award, finally got his trophy sent to him. Obviously it was created and it was spelled wrong. A lot of people say that they've sent him the defensive player of the Year. We reached out to Source says in the league he's claiming ownership of this. Hey, we're the ones that type up all the things for the engraver to go ahead and make the trophy. So that's actually, we think an O instead of a D there. And the. The typo was with the E as opposed to that being an F. So I believe there is a chance that this is O, E, F, E, N, S, I, V, as opposed to off, ensiv, as opposed to a defensive. Yeah, typo there, I believe is what happened there. Certainly a typo league is claiming ownership of it, I believe. Source says from the league are actually saying, and I quote the the year part, the year with no space there. It feels like that was potentially also a flub. Feels like somebody who did the typing on this just thought, yeah, now it send it. It didn't get any checks and balances correct. Can't have it in the biggest league on earth.
- [141:44]
Ty Schmidt
No.
- [141:44]
Pat McAfee
In Jackson, Smith and Jigba, obviously, whenever he won this award, he was not in the building. The way it was announced became its own story as well. So, you know, JSN had a hell of a year and all of a sudden it feels like he's going to be motivated even more by it all. D. But yeah, and he'll get another trophy. He should keep both of them. Yeah, he should keep both of them for the entire situation. And I think the NFL will certainly be trying to make it right.
- [142:07]
Darius Butler
Yeah, you know, you. You hate to see us. I don't know if we've ever seen this before from the. The pinnacle. You talking about professional leagues. And this is one of the biggest awards, you know, after the MVP is the next one that we always look at, the quarterback is pretty much kind of dominated that award. And then you talked about the announcement. Obviously, Drew Ski, a comedian, tried to be funny in the moment. Most people didn't think it was funny. He wasn't there because he was preparing for the super bowl, but won a Super Bowl 1 offensive player of the year. I'm sure the NFL to get this figured out and fixed, but you hate to see JSN a little bummed out about it.
- [142:37]
Pat McAfee
He's gonna be motivated at this point.
- [142:39]
Bruce
Yeah.
- [142:39]
Pat McAfee
This guy had an incredible year, a career year, some would say. And he's coming out with bad taste in his mouth and a big bag. That's unbelievable. In a huge bag. Yeah, that's an unbelievable place to be. If you're a Seattle Seahawks fan. It's like, okay, our guy that's different than everybody else is pissed. No respect. And then what was the defensive line? You. You know what he said at the speech? What do they say? My quarterback.
- [143:05]
Con Man
Oh, the linebacker.
- [143:07]
Pat McAfee
And then McDonald. The way he just like kind of Ernest Jones.
- [143:10]
Iman Shumpert
Of course.
- [143:10]
Ty Schmidt
Yes.
- [143:10]
Pat McAfee
Dude. This team Sam Darnold always gonna have because he was run out of the biggest city in America and said he was terrible. It's like this team is getting fed more chips almost. AJ and that's insane to think about.
- [143:22]
AJ Hawk
It is because that's the hardest thing you always worry about. Hey, like, super bowl hangover, all that stuff. You know, Jon Stewart, Schneider, the gm, he's just sitting back loving all of this stuff happening. So that's the thing. Coming back to camp after winning the super bowl or coming back to OTAs and thinking, all right, how. What do I do? Like, how do I get it across to these guys? Like, we got to keep our foot on the gas, and last year didn't happen. All that. And it's like, hey, sometimes some outside. Outside forces kind of do that for you.
- [143:45]
Pat McAfee
Hey, they don't even know how to. They don't even care. They just type.
- [143:48]
AJ Hawk
Yeah, they don't care enough about us out here, you know, saying they. They forget about us out here. Way up north.
- [143:52]
Pat McAfee
I've told a lot of Seahawks. I ran into a lady named Stephanie, I do believe, at the ACM Awards, working in Vegas. She's a big time Seahawks fan and she mentioned, oh, the primetime games are going to be good for the Seahawks. Getting seen by people, you know, like, we're going to be forced to talk and see the Seattle Seahawks because of the amount of primetime games. And that's only starting for them. Yeah, Feels like that's only going to be starting for this particular era of the Seahawks. And Schneider, we know he's beardy. Yeah.
- [144:18]
Ty Schmidt
Absolute beauty.
- [144:19]
Bruce
Absolutely.
- [144:19]
Con Man
The man.
- [144:20]
Pat McAfee
The man he really is. Can't throw a football.
- [144:23]
Bruce
AJ Used to always say that when we'd be like, yeah, yeah, probably, sure, definitely. And then we got to experience.
- [144:29]
Pat McAfee
I got to experience Him a lot more than anybody else around us. But it was certainly a fantastic vibe from old Schneider.
- [144:36]
Darius Butler
Yeah.
- [144:36]
Ty Schmidt
That's why I'm not worried about any kind of super bowl hangover, because I don't think John Schneider's ever been hungover in his life. You know, I see what he. What he can do, you know, night in, night out. And guess what? Next morning, he's up early. He's, you know, combing over different prospects, ready to prepare for the draft. So I don't think we need to worry about any kind of super bowl handover.
- [144:52]
Pat McAfee
If you're gonna hoot with the Owls. Yeah. You got to be able to wake up and soar with the Eagles if you want to be worth the. In this world.
- [144:57]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
- [144:58]
Pat McAfee
Because if you hoot with the Owls and then the Eagles take off and you're not with them, then all of a sudden, you're just. You're just hooting all day and. Yes. What's not happening? Altitude.
- [145:07]
Bruce
Got to get up there.
- [145:08]
Pat McAfee
Got to get up.
- [145:08]
Ty Schmidt
He's getting the worm.
- [145:11]
Pat McAfee
Not just the worm. I think the Eagles are getting big fish. I got one thrown off. Yeah. Definitely yesterday, during or two days ago. Throwing off the side of my house. Sunday, I guess, three to Wednesday. How many days again?
- [145:23]
Chris Paul
What did.
- [145:23]
AJ Hawk
What happened?
- [145:24]
Bruce
That's not the first time, right?
- [145:25]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. So this is the thing. I didn't know this. Live on a lake. They say it'll be a good time. You have good views. There's also a chance that these birds, you know, prey. Which eagles are. We got two to live on property there. They will. They will find a fish somehow because they got eagle eyes.
- [145:39]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
- [145:39]
Bruce
Well said.
- [145:40]
Pat McAfee
And they will. They will go in there, and they will snag these things, and it is just like an actual. Like a grabber. And then they start flying away. Some of the fish a little bit too big. So they'll fight. You know, they'll fight in there, and it'll slip. And I think you just. It's like raining fish. It just smacks off a window.
- [145:59]
Jack Hughes
It is.
- [146:00]
Pat McAfee
It's quite a little scene. Yeah. You know, explain to Mackenzie what's happening there.
- [146:04]
Darius Butler
Probably not slipping.
- [146:05]
Pat McAfee
Rain. You think it's strong?
- [146:07]
AJ Hawk
Got.
- [146:07]
Darius Butler
Probably got a nice edge that they like.
- [146:09]
Chris Paul
Just. Yep. Right there.
- [146:10]
Con Man
Good stone.
- [146:13]
Pat McAfee
You think that's death flow? Could be.
- [146:16]
AJ Hawk
Finish it.
- [146:17]
Pat McAfee
Oh, so you're saying that that thing's moving a little bit, and eagle's like, hey, we can do this two different ways. And that thing starts bouncing around, comes right around the house. Yeah, I got bang oh, yeah, Potentially. I mean, these are smart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they are. They really are. They're. I told you about the sitting ducks. With them, it was like Nat Geo was happening just right behind the house. A.J. you remember that? Forget what? It was Christmas, maybe Thanksgiving, one of the holidays where everybody was there. You remember?
- [146:46]
AJ Hawk
What were you trying to. Were you shooting? Shooting ducks?
- [146:48]
Pat McAfee
I wasn't shooting, no. Well, it's a residential neighborhood.
- [146:52]
AJ Hawk
Somebody was paintballing them.
- [146:53]
Pat McAfee
I can't be shooting these things. No, there was. There was a group of ducks. I don't know the official name. There's a bunch of different breeds of ducks.
- [147:01]
Bruce
Was it a mallard?
- [147:03]
Pat McAfee
No, mallard's green. No, it was a black head, I believe. I forget the. The full. But it goes underwater pretty good, these ones. And they stick around long into the cold. But the lake freezes except for little spots of water. So all these ducks just go to these wonderful little. And I think this is where the sitting ducks thing kind of started.
- [147:25]
Chris Paul
Sure.
- [147:26]
Pat McAfee
So then these eagles, okay, just have literally sitting ducks down here. These things flew down, picked one up at a time, passed it off the ice, called in its friends, did that. Ducks get scared to death. Guess where they go. The only other hole that it was. And all of a sudden, after they're done eating the. Out of this duck, they go on up. Guess what we're doing again. Let's do a little roulette. You're going to buy him getting one dummies off the ice. We're watching this blood. It was a massacre. It was a massive. It really was. And then you think to yourself, like, these eagles are geniuses. I mean, they're probably preparing for this for weeks. Hey, we got the little ice gimmick coming with these. Yeah, yeah, don't worry, we're good. Let's go ahead and wait. Good eats. They are so smart, dude. So it was, it was. It was devastating. If you were a duck fan. I'm telling you, if you're a duck fan. I was to going to be a tough holiday. And it was happening right behind the house, middle of the day, great lighting. I think it was happening literally for the house in which we were in. It was. I'm a big fan of the eagle. But if you hit with the house, got to be able to wake up with them.
- [148:28]
Ty Schmidt
Exactly.
- [148:28]
Pat McAfee
Cuz they got to get the ducks in the fish and throw them off the houses and everything like that. If you're just boozing all day, you're not going to be able to do that.
- [148:34]
Bruce
Agreed. And all this talk reminded me something we saw last night.
- [148:39]
AJ Hawk
Yep.
- [148:40]
Bruce
Aj, Good call.
- [148:43]
Pat McAfee
Hey, did you find the queen bee?
- [148:44]
AJ Hawk
So.
- [148:44]
Pat McAfee
So. So how do we get into this? And this is awesome. Are you. Is this your new hobby or how. How far into the game are we. Are we making honey for the boys? What. What's kind of going on here?
- [148:56]
AJ Hawk
I mean, eventually, I'd love to make honey. I've always been interested in bees and curious about it, but. Yeah, that guy there, Brian, he's one of my buddies. His son plays with my son, and I saw he had a beehive, like, six months ago in his yard, and I've been asking him about it.
- [149:07]
Con Man
He's.
- [149:08]
AJ Hawk
He's really dove into it deep, so he's been helping me. I. That's a. That gray box right there. It's, you know, free plug, I guess that's an interceptor swarm box. I caught a. I. I put that up about a month ago. I caught a feral swarm of bees, and then that was. I was transitioning them into an actual hive now. So, yeah, now we're about to. Now we're about to go.
- [149:26]
Pat McAfee
Okay. Do you have to deliver them a queen, or is there already a queen in the.
- [149:29]
AJ Hawk
They make a queen. They make them.
- [149:32]
Pat McAfee
Who makes the queen? The bees make the queen.
- [149:34]
AJ Hawk
The bees are crazy, man. Man, the more you get, you learn about bees. It's. It is nuts how these guys, these people handle. It's. It's wild. Yeah. They'll, you know, they'll feed them royal jelly, an extra, like. Like, extended period of time to make the queen, and that queen lays eggs, and I'm pretty sure I already got a queen laying eggs in my feral swarm that I got. You can buy beads online, but I didn't want to do that. My buddy did that. He said, no, let's catch a feral swarm. And he's caught a couple over at his property.
- [149:58]
Pat McAfee
Well, congratulations on wrangling the feral viral swarm of bees that you can now have on your property. I watched Jerry Seinfeld as a bee.
- [150:05]
Darius Butler
Yeah.
- [150:05]
Pat McAfee
I think I learned a lot more about how they operate and everything. They are a sophisticated bunch, but it does appear if you get a queen that they all agree to, just like Canada did for all those years, they'll kind of just blindly follow from my understanding. And there's big benefits from these bees in society. Okay. Remember, there was a time Nick Marauda, who's one of the most pessimistic people on earth about everything, thing, was given thumbs up to bees because we needed more bees, and there Was like a shortage of bees happening.
- [150:31]
Bruce
So I actually appreciate local honey's good for allergies.
- [150:33]
P.K. Subban
Bingo.
- [150:34]
Pat McAfee
We hope to get some Columbus honey out of the hawk hive sometime. That'll certainly be something we look forward to. But Nick, you were big on the bees there for like an eight month period. It was almost like an interesting little time of your life. Need the bees, Pat. They were, they were, they were facing some challenges there for a little bit.
- [150:50]
Iman Shumpert
They still are.
- [150:50]
Bruce
So it's good to see an upside
- [150:52]
Pat McAfee
standing citizen like AJ helping them out, giving them a home here.
- [150:54]
Iman Shumpert
Because you know, we can't have the
- [150:56]
Pat McAfee
plants without the bees and then the birds and then that whole thing. Someone should have told you about that when you were younger. But you need them. You need them to keep the ecosystem going. That's right. I hate the bees.
- [151:05]
Jack Hughes
I'll be honest with you.
- [151:06]
Pat McAfee
What?
- [151:06]
Con Man
No, no, no.
- [151:07]
Ty Schmidt
There's. There's a nuisance.
- [151:09]
Pat McAfee
No, but you don't. They're not like Canadian geese, dude. They're different for society.
- [151:13]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, I get it. But they're just like always buzzing around areas where like I'm sitting and it's like sick of this, this thing. So I go out and I go to Ace and I have to buy the, you know, and then. And that's not good for the environment. Just spraying that be killer.
- [151:25]
Pat McAfee
Just all over.
- [151:27]
Ty Schmidt
Yeah, exactly. So I'm. I'm at where we stand right now. I'm done with the bees. I hate them. Those ones stink. But honestly, those pale in comparison to them big carpenter beast. Those dumb sons of who they don't.
- [151:41]
AJ Hawk
They do damage cars they fly in.
- [151:44]
Ty Schmidt
I'm saying they're dumb as they don't sting you, but they'll just fly right into your forehead and do it a hundred times. But. And then, yeah, they'll burrow into wood and like that. Damn near. I've already taken down my, you know, swing set. Structural integrities calling into question now.
- [152:00]
Pat McAfee
It sounds like you got wood problem. More so than a carbon bees. It sounds like it's on your wood power.
- [152:05]
Ty Schmidt
No, cuz they burrow in there.
- [152:06]
AJ Hawk
Crazy.
- [152:06]
Pat McAfee
Yeah, but I'm saying your wood's weak. You need to get a little bit stronger. But maybe get a little. That.
- [152:11]
Ty Schmidt
No, that would be.
- [152:11]
Pat McAfee
That.
- [152:11]
Ty Schmidt
That's not my wood.
- [152:12]
Pat McAfee
Okay.
- [152:13]
Ty Schmidt
That would be gorilla playsets wood. So yeah, I may have to take that up with them. These. I'm done with them.
- [152:19]
Pete Thamel
I'm done with them.
- [152:21]
Bruce
Aj who's wearing the shorts and who isn't wearing the shorts in that Picture
- [152:24]
AJ Hawk
we know I am not wearing his shorts. That's my. My first time even handling that. Opening that swarm box the shorts was a bold move.
- [152:31]
Pat McAfee
So you're in the.
- [152:32]
Darius Butler
I didn't need them.
- [152:33]
Pat McAfee
You're in the full picture.
- [152:34]
AJ Hawk
I'm in the full gear, but yeah, I don't need it. Those get try. Trust me. These guys, we found a good swarm. These guys do not want to bite at all. They are just strictly working. Next time. I won't next time I'll probably just wear the head, you know the head deal.
- [152:47]
Pat McAfee
Yeah. Not even the gloves. You got a hard working hive it sounds like over there at the Hawk house. And we'll certainly keep our eye on the honey that you will be producing for all of our allergies to continue to battle this weekend. Massive, massive time for the sport of the future. Oh hell yeah. Might be the sport of the now. Especially with the highlights that are destined to be coming from the Final four. Con man, what do we need to know about these four lacrosse powerhouses?
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Con Man
Yeah, pretty unbelievable. There you see Princeton with the one standing up there is Nate Kabir. He's kind of one of the Tuarton finalists. Superstar. You will definitely be seeing more of him if they continue to win. He will definitely show up. Duke damn near the surprise of the tournament. All four blue bloods obviously seen Duke win natties, but you do not see them be in ranks. They won at Richmond two weeks ago to kind of get this entire thing started. Now they've made it all the way. That is Ben Johnston, not Ben Johnson. We got two ends in Ben, kind of like Bennett and Johnston with a T. He's led them. I believe this is the goal against Georgetown to get them here. And then Notre Dame.
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Pat McAfee
Duke lacrosse back. Good for them.
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Con Man
Duke lacrosse back. Yeah.
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Pat McAfee
Congratulations.
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Con Man
Kind of stalwart in the Final four weekend. This is Josh Diego. So he is a transfer from the Air Force. Actually I believe he is a pilot. I'm not sure exactly if he is a engineer or if he's actually flying the things he's leading them. He thought his career was done. He's a grad transfer for his last year of Lacks. Trying to win a Natty. There he is again. Boom. Huge goal, I believe. And then Syracuse. Syracuse kind of back in the top. They are a kind of old firm, if you will. That is the Powell's alma mater, as we know so well. But Joyce Palino, he is their superstar. Good Italian boy. I'm sure he is also a Torton finalist. So we are set up for Great games this weekend. It's Saturday, Final Four, and then Monday, National Championship.
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Pat McAfee
Okay, that's the men's side. Let's go to the women's side. Obviously, they're entering their final for as well. Stars all over the place.
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Con Man
Yeah. Less surprises as you can see. Northwestern, Johns Hopkins. One, verse four. Let's go back to the graphic, maybe, and then two, verse three.
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Pat McAfee
North Carolina, Maryland.
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Con Man
Thank you very much. North Carolina superstar Chloe Humphrey. She's a sophomore. She has 100 goals this season. That's not a hundred goals in her career this season, I believe, Bruce. She won the tour tonight. You said last year as a freshman.
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Darius Butler
Yeah, she's.
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Pat McAfee
She's the one. She is on pace to be the greatest women's lacrosse player, not just in college, but just in. In general. She's unbelievable to a ton.
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Ty Schmidt
Last year, 100 goals this year.
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Pat McAfee
They're probably the favorite to bring this thing home, but obviously on the other side, we got, you know, kind of the Cinderella story with Johns Hopkins and Taylor Hoss. Yeah, we love Johns Hopkins and Taylor Hoss showing us a lot of love. Johns Hopkins women's lacrosse team has shown us a lot of love. We appreciate them so much. Obviously, that fantastic last second actual goal to send them into championship weekend here with a turnover in the back. Oh, let's go ahead. We got 13 seconds. Let's go ahead and execute perfectly. An entire counter whenever you need it. Kind of tic tac toe in the ball, and then Taylor Hoss ends up with a goal. Absolute perfection here as they move past stuff. Tony Brook. We appreciate the Johns Hopkins team.
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Con Man
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
But whenever you think about women's lacrosse and blue bloods here, that's who we have. Johns Hopkins, it feels like that would be a school that I would think would have a good lacrosse game, if that makes sense.
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Con Man
Yeah, they almost had both. Same with North Carolina, too. Like, they almost had both teams, men and women, in the Final Four. Maryland, you could say as well.
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Pat McAfee
Who's that there? J.J. suriano. That's goalie, right?
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Con Man
Yeah, goalie, superstar. Definitely going to be a tall task, but again, close. Humphrey has 100 goals in the year. Northwestern, kind of a budding dynasty. You could argue they are a absolute powerhouse. Now, men's team, I don't know if they have actual men's team, but their girls team is unbelievable. So it would be one of those things where you wouldn't be surprised if Northwestern kind of ran the table here.
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Pat McAfee
All right, we'll be watching it all. Love sports.
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AJ Hawk
Oh, yeah.
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Con Man
Great weekend for lacrosse.
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Bruce
Notre Dame is your favorite toy.
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Pat McAfee
Roll. Well, good luck to all parties. Hey, we're so thankful for you. We got a beehiver amongst us.
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Darius Butler
Oh, yeah.
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Pat McAfee
And he will continue to bring, you know, just kind of insights that only our show can provide for you. There was a hat that just fell off an alien head that's on top of the Larry o' Brien trophy on that table right over there. And we try to, you know, really emphasize all the things that really bring our show together. That's why we added an Wu Tang Clan album, obviously, right there in between the two, because that's just a nice reminder that you can be great forever. And if you want to go ahead and be in this business, you're going to have to be, especially because all of you are expecting a show that's not ass. And we'll continue to try to deliver that. We can't thank you enough for allowing us to be a part of the sports universe. D Buck, great work this week. Safe travels. Congratulations.
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Darius Butler
Appreciate you, brother. Got my daughter graduating high school.
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Bruce
You've done it, lad.
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Iman Shumpert
Oh, man.
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Darius Butler
First one. It'll be big. I'm sure. I will cry like a baby tomorrow morning. But proud of her. Proud of Maya. She's going on to be a faul, so she won't be too far away.
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Pat McAfee
Hey, she's hooting with the house.
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Darius Butler
She is.
- [158:05]
Pat McAfee
Okay. But we know she'll be up with the Eagles. She will, huh?
- [158:08]
Darius Butler
That's part of it.
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Pat McAfee
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